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deviantjustin: except that way.12:00
martiigiggsey: I don't remember very well as I stopped using dsl some time ago due to my job change12:00
giggseylol12:00
martiigeggand I moved12:00
Varangercrimmy: Should I left "all" option enabled or just "azx" ???12:00
martiigiggsey: so can't help you but I know that you will have to check what pppd does12:00
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deviantjustin: that mplayer won`t play me some .avi files. and keeps crushing on me .12:00
martiigiggsey: as it seams firmware is loaded propery12:01
dooglusenonu: I'm not sure that /etc/profile is run.12:01
giggseyi don't think pppd is doing anything, there is no log12:01
martiiproperly12:01
martiigiggsey: so that's why you have no internet12:01
giggseykk12:01
giggseyhow do i run it12:01
giggseyi told you in a n00b12:01
martiigiggsey: hotplug should do it12:01
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giggseyany tutorials or links or anything12:02
giggseyi know nothing12:02
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giggseyi barely know how to use ssh for my dedicated server12:02
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cyber23justin: I used apt-get12:03
martiigiggsey: http://dsl.linux.it/DebianNetinstall12:03
martiigiggsey: at the end12:03
cyber23justin: to install the drivers12:03
martiigiggsey: did you copy driver package to /etc/ppp/peers/12:03
giggseydone the bullet points12:03
martiiwhat do you have there12:03
floocan anyone please tell me how I change the default setting forom totem to VLC when opening avi mp3 ogg formats?12:03
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cyber23Is there anything that can be done with my driver install12:04
giggseyCopy the /usr/share/doc/speedtouch/examples/peers-pppoa file to /etc/ppp/peers/adsl12:04
giggseythats what i did12:04
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giggseyand in  /etc/default/speedtouch is PPPD_PEER="adsl"12:04
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giggseyand also  Append the line "speedtch" to the /etc/hotplug/blacklist file.12:04
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martiigiggsey: ok12:04
martiiso you can call this setup by doing12:05
martiipppd call adsl12:05
giggseyand that should connect me to the web?12:05
LinuxJonesfloo, right click a mp3 file and open with other application then select /usr/bin/vlcFilename12:05
martiigiggsey: that will run ppp12:05
giggseyconfused12:05
martiigiggsey: try pppd debug call adsl12:06
flooI know but i'd like it to do it automatically when i double click a file.  At the moment Totem opens, I'd like it to be vlc... cheers!12:06
martiigiggsey: linux requires little bit more knowledge :)12:06
giggseylol12:06
giggseyim willing to learn, the reason ive got it, i just need the web12:06
martiigiggsey: just play with it12:06
martiigiggsey: so I tell you waht to do12:06
LinuxJonesfloo, you have to select do this automatically from now on checkbox12:06
giggseykk, start ppp should get me on the web right?12:07
martiigiggsey: you don't read12:07
martiigiggsey: it will run ppd12:07
crimmyVaranger: any progress?12:07
martiigiggsey: if ppp is configured well12:07
cyber23factor_dee; any way to fix it12:07
martiigiggsey: it should12:07
giggseykk12:07
martiigiggsey: if not we can find out whats wrong12:07
giggseywriting down those commands, then trying12:07
martiigiggsey: but you must probvide us with loigs12:07
martiilogs12:07
Fator_Deecyber23: I don't know12:07
floocheers linuxjones, I'll give it a go12:07
giggseygoddam it, there are never pens in my house12:07
cyber23Justin: do you know12:08
LinuxJonesfloo, ;)12:08
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martiigiggsey: write in text file12:08
martiigiggsey: on windows partition12:08
martiigiggsey: you can read it from linux then12:08
cyber23how do I fix this guys #12:08
cyber23(WW) fglrx(0): Kernel Module version does *not* match driver.12:08
cyber23#12:08
cyber23(EE) fglrx(0): incompatible kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will not work12:08
crimmycyber23: sounds like you have mismatched kernel & X Window System drivers12:09
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giggseybbs - hopefully - trying it :P12:09
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medkit_cyber23, this thread helps a lot, you must read it to the end.12:10
medkit_http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3249512:10
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mezeek12:11
mezwhats the quickest way to instlall flas for firefox?12:11
fresh27I am now using Ubuntu for the first time and its quite a pain.12:11
justinmez: install the packages for it12:11
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Varangercrimmy: I am building now, but I wasn't sure if should enable "azx" and "all", "all" was enabled by default, I left it like this12:11
ogi_fresh27, why is that12:12
mezjustin12:12
LinuxJonesfresh27, it's normal it takes some getting used to :)12:12
mezwhat packages?12:12
crimmyVaranger: sure, that will suffice, though you really only needed azx.12:12
crimmyVaranger: no harm with all, though.12:12
cyber23crimmy: is there any way to fix that12:12
fresh27I clicked the updates button in the upper right and entered my password, but I got a "Failure to run /usr/bin/update-manager: Child terminated with 1 status." error12:12
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fresh27and I get basically the same thing for anything that requires a password (User and Groups, etc)12:12
LinuxJonesfresh27, you need to enter your users password12:12
fresh27I did12:12
justinmez: the flash plugin packages12:12
LinuxJonesfresh27, your in the account that you installed Ubuntu ?12:13
crashy'lo all12:13
cyber23Couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.8-5-38612:13
fresh27yep12:13
crimmycyber23: what cpu do you have?12:13
cyber23p4 2.6 ghz12:13
crimmycyber23: sudo aptitude install linux-686-smp12:13
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cyber23crimmy: thats downloading12:14
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cyber23crimmy: what is that going to do12:14
mezjustin12:14
mezthe names of them12:14
mezand i have some installed already apparently12:14
crimmycyber23: install a more suitable kernel for your hardware12:14
LinuxJonesfresh27, open a terminal and type sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade12:14
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crimmycyber23: you _are_ using Hoary, correct? :)12:14
Varangercrimmy: can I download and compile lastest alsa-source.tar.bz2 from alsa-project.org?12:15
cyber23crimmy: Yes12:15
justinmez: search for flash plugin.12:15
ustin-i need help setting up a win modem, anyone had to do this yet?12:15
cyber23crimmy: thats all done12:15
mezjustin I have libflash-mozplugin and flashplayer-mozilla12:15
crimmyVaranger: (you probably meant alsa-driver, and yes, but caveat: you need matching alsa-lib and alsa-utils, too. I'd skip downloading them.)12:15
Varangerustin: what win modem do you have?12:15
monteiromy mouse stops seconds when opening programs, or changing windows or showing desktop image, is that normal ?12:16
crimmyVaranger: did the compilation finish? Have you installed the created deb?12:16
Varangercrimmy: you are right12:16
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mezmeh a reinstall worked12:16
fresh27vdp is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.12:16
crimmycyber23: ok, now reboot12:16
cyber23k12:16
Varangercrimmy: I think you should have left just azx enabled12:16
Varangercrimmy: it is compiling the world!12:16
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crimmyVaranger: "you"?12:16
Varangersorry oops12:17
crimmyVaranger: yes, it will take longer if you chose "all".12:17
LinuxJonesfresh27, your not in the account that was used to install Ubuntu12:17
ustin-Varanger,  Lucent Microelectronics LT WinModem (rev 02)12:17
VarangerI meant: I have left .....12:17
fresh27what other account is there?12:17
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LinuxJonesfresh27, look in /etc/sudoers there will be a line that looks like this >> username   ALL=(ALL) ALL  the username will be the account you need to be logged into for root-like priviliges12:18
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Varangerustin-: I had a PCTel Winmodem, so I can't help you, but try looking here for Lucent help: www.linmodems.org12:18
cyber23crimmy: thats done12:18
justinLinuxJones: too bad it doesn't work that way12:18
medkit_How to recompile a 2.6.10-5-k7 kernel without modules hpt3xx and hpt366?12:18
LinuxJonesjustin, eh ?12:19
Varangercrimmy: It finished building, I'll install12:19
justinfresh27: run getent group admin, that will tell you12:19
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crimmycyber23: ok, and luck with X Window System?12:19
ustin-thx anyway Varanger12:19
cyber23Crimmy: thats it, no more help12:20
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cyber23Crimmy: what did that last part do any ways12:20
Varangerustin-: www.linmodems.org !12:20
spanglesontoastanyone an expert on alsa?12:20
ustin-i know, im looking12:20
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ustin-i was just thanking you12:20
athohey guys12:20
Varangerustin-: :D sorry12:20
crimmycyber23: "no more help"?12:20
athoif i upgrade to hoary from warty (via change in spurces.list)12:20
ustin-lol, np12:20
crimmycyber23: as in it works?12:21
athocan i keep the version of hotplug in hoary?12:21
fresh27vdp@ubuntu:~$ getent group admin / vdp@ubuntu:~$     <--- nothing happened12:21
athoyar12:21
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fresh27the only accounts i set up during install were my current one, and the password for root12:21
athoreplace "warty" with "Hoary"12:21
cyber23crimmy: whats on the go.... you tell me to do something with my kernel and then leave me high and dry... come on here12:21
imaekHooray.  I'm getting a new computer.12:21
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justinsince when does ubuntu have you setup the root password during setup?12:22
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IIIEarslspci gives me a pci video card at .01.  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg wants to place it at .2. is that okay?  - Later in the process should i enable Framebuffer and DRI with GLcore?12:22
crimmycyber23: I asked you question; I hardly left you high and dry...12:22
cyber23I don't even know what my kernel is any more12:22
athowhen i try to install via hoary CD, it hangs on starting hotplug subsystem12:22
crimmyyou a^12:22
crimmycyber23: ,,uname -r'' will tell you the current kernel12:22
spanglesontoastwhat is the diffference between ubuntu and debian?12:22
januxhello all, I have a simple question, in Ubuntu, there is no /etc/rc.d for me to run a startup script, where do I find this file? is it /etc/init.d/rc?12:22
crimmycyber23: I asked you if you had any additional luck with X Window System12:23
fresh27justin since when does ubuntu have you setup the root password during setup? <-- I had to setup in expert mode because there was a "No installable kernel found" bug that effected me12:23
thr1cesame as the difference between...dodge and jeep12:23
crimmyjanux: no, /etc/init.d/foo. man update-rc.d12:23
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cyber23crimmy: none12:23
cyber23crimmy: I have no idea where to go from here12:23
crimmycyber23: are you still getting the mismatched error?12:23
spanglesontoastfresh27 just use sudo12:24
athois there any way to do what i asked? upgrade warty-hoary via spurces.list but keep warty's hotplug?12:24
fresh27im not in the sudoers file12:24
athosources*12:24
justinfresh27: is there stuff for admin in the sudoers file?12:24
januxcrimmy, another question, does rcS.d runs no matter what when system boos?12:24
fresh27how do i open the sudoers file?12:24
januxcrimmy, *boots?12:24
justinfresh27: with cat?12:24
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crimmyjanux: yes12:25
fresh27i have no clue what cat is12:25
januxcrimmy, thank you very much..let me try12:25
cyber23crimmy: what does this mean E: Couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-696-smp12:25
justinfresh27: type whatis cat then.12:25
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crimmycyber23: you typo'd12:25
crimmycyber23: it's 686, not 69612:25
cyber23sorry12:25
cyber23I have the newest drivers installed'12:26
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crimmycyber23: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list onto http://pastebin.com12:26
fresh27cat: /etc/sudoers: Permission denied12:26
crimmycyber23: how did you install those drivers?12:26
REdsis there a way to remove modules, cause i noticed that hotplug manages alot of them12:26
justinfresh27: do it as root12:26
REdsis there some file or config they can be remoed from12:26
januxcrimmy, o...sorry, one more, if I want to run just a daemon(e.g. ftpd) for all users, so I wanna run it in rcS.d but where do I put this line? or do I make a script file?12:26
bet0xhi all12:26
bet0x:D12:26
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medkit_Rebroad,12:26
medkit_REds, use rmmod12:26
crimmyjanux: if you installed the ftpd via apt-get/aptitude, the initscript was installed automatically.12:26
cainehey im tryin to install windows media player but its telling me i dont have the updates that i need12:27
nbkhi, can anyone help me?, my but isn't working12:27
fresh27i cant do anything as root, it wont let me login as root, and i get that stupid "Child terminated" error every time i enter a password12:27
cainefor wine im guessing12:27
crimmynbk: your "but"?12:27
justinfresh27: use su12:27
nbkya12:27
SJChunghello, if totem-gstreamer can play avi + srt subtitle movies?  I am using totem-xine now. and want change to gstreamer12:27
cyber23crimmy: http://pastebin.com/29188712:27
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SJChungbut the subtitle cant play if I use gstreamer?12:27
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januxcrimmy, ftpd is just an example, in fact, I wanna start the jboss J2EE application server, it has its own run.sh in jboss/bin, where do I run that line?12:27
nbkit just stopped working like 3 days ago12:27
medkit_SJChung, mine can't play anything, so stay at xine12:27
Fator_Deecaine: why do you need windows media player12:27
Varangercrimmy: I built and installed12:27
BicchiDoes anyone knows of a good shell editor that will do syntax hightlighting and allow me to run the program from within the editor.12:27
crimmyjanux: man update-rc.d12:27
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crimmyVaranger: just alsa-source, correct?12:28
SJChungmedkit_, ok, thanks.12:28
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Varangercrimmy: yes12:28
mezhmm12:28
justinBicchi: vim12:28
athoOK, hotplug subsystem freeze!!!12:28
mezmy flash is runnign REALLY fast12:28
IIIEarsfresh27 - type users  [enter]  then whoami [enter]  - what do you show?12:28
Bicchijustin: yeah funny :)12:28
crimmyVaranger: good. Now, sudo modprobe snd_azx12:28
desrthas everyone received their CDs?12:28
cainewell i dont really need the player itself i just need to be able to view the video formats for it12:28
desrtmy friend got his a few weeks ago but mine have not shown up yet >:|12:28
tarAntaHi, a simple question:12:28
fresh27su worked, i'm root now, thanks12:28
cainesuch as wmv12:28
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caineand the audio wma12:28
justinBicchi: vim is a good editor that does syntax highlighting and allows you to run programs from it12:29
crimmyjanux: you'd place the script in /etc/init.d/ and use update-rc.d to create the runlevel symlinks. man update-rc.d12:29
dugi like jedit but i want to find a non-java gui-based text editor12:29
cainetotem obviously doesnt allow me to view those12:29
tarAntacan I add an Ubuntu repository to my sources.list of my Debian AMD64?12:29
Bicchijustin: i am looking for something with a gui12:29
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justinBicchi: gvim12:29
januxcrimmy, ic....thanks12:29
cyber23crimmy: did you get the link12:29
dugBicchi: like i said, jedit, but if you find a non-java alternative lemme know12:29
crimmycyber23: yes, I'm looking in a sec12:29
Fator_Deecaine: you canview wmv just fine with xine, vlx or mplayer12:29
cainei cant view music videos from musicvideocodes.com and i cant listen to music samples on the cd sites12:29
Fator_Dee*can view12:29
ustin-does anyone else know how to setup a lucent win modem?12:30
IIIEarssudo nautilus will give you a graphical browser and sudo gedit will give you a graphical editor. in gnome12:30
cyber23crimmy: k12:30
justinBicchi: though editing is about text, not pictures, so eventually you will figure out that a gui won't help with that.12:30
crimmycyber23: erm, your /etc/apt/sources.list is severely crippled12:30
Bicchidug: i can run shell scripts with jedit?12:30
medkit_tarAnta, http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories12:30
crimmycyber23: err, sorry, my mistake12:30
crimmycyber23: which package did you try to install, linux-686-smp or linux-696-smp?12:31
tarAntamedkit_: thanks12:31
dugBicchi: probably there's an addin for it, but haven't tried it yet12:31
spanglesontoastwhere can I find sound card aliases?12:32
caineFactor_Dee: where do i get those12:32
cyber23linux-686-smp12:32
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ustin-i would appreciate it greatly if someone would tell me how to setup a lucent winmodem, if anyone knows how?12:32
cyber23crimmy: linux 686--smp12:32
martiiustin-: find it on the web12:32
ustin-i have already installed the dev packacge and its still not working12:32
martiiustin-: you have to load module12:32
cyber23crimmy: is there a driver out there for 68612:32
crimmycyber23: dpkg -l linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-686-smp|grep ^ii12:32
Fator_Deecaine: you can start be installin vlc, it's in the repos12:32
ustin-already did that12:33
martiiustin-: than you shoudl have /dev/ttySx to play with12:33
martiiustin-: what /var/log/messages says about that12:33
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IIIEarscaine - Do you have sun java installed to link your browser to gnome?12:33
cyber23crimmy: ii  linux-restrict 2.6.10.5-1     Non-free Linux 2.6.10 modules on PPro/Celero12:33
tarAntamedkit_: in that page tell me how add extrarepositories to ubuntu system12:33
cainei believe so12:34
caineim pretty sure i do12:34
crimmycyber23: looks good. Now please paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log onto http://pastebin.com12:34
medkit_tarAnta, so you can figure out how to add extra reps to your debian system either. It is nearly the same12:34
tarAntamedkit_: but I need vice versa to know if it's possible to add ubuntu repositories to an amd64 debian12:34
crimmytarAnta: it's not a good idea mix n' match repos generally.12:35
caineIIIEars: how do i check12:35
tarAntamedkit_: yes I know how, I would like to know if there'll be compatibility problems12:35
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medkit_tahorg,  almost sure there will by probs12:35
IIIEarscaine java --version - better info on the sun java site tho12:36
medkit_tarAnta,  almost sure there will by probs12:36
cyber23crimmy: http://pastebin.com/29189612:36
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janethow you guys doing12:37
IIIEarscrimy - You are a Wiz. :)12:37
dugBicchi: try NEdit: http://www.nedit.org/help/shell.php#Shell_Commands_and_Filters12:37
cainek lemme check it12:37
Bicchidug: actually i am there right now. you ready my mind :)12:37
janetI got a question for you guys12:37
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tarAntamedkit_: you know anybody done a live update from Debian amd64 to ubuntu 64bit?12:38
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giggsey_martii: guess what?12:38
martiigiggsey_: what ?12:38
medkit_tarAnta, nope12:38
martiigiggsey_: :)12:38
giggsey_version me :D12:38
janetI am a newbie in the linux world and I would like to know which version is the most powerful of all12:38
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giggsey_^_^12:38
IIIEarsJanet - read the topic for today and jump right in. - Welcome12:38
martiigiggsey_: whow12:38
tarAntacrimmy: you know?12:38
martiigiggsey_: congrats12:38
giggsey_i used linux-usb.sourceforge.net thingi12:38
giggsey_thx12:39
ustin-martii, /dev/ttyLT012:39
crimmytarAnta: it's possible to cross-grade to ubuntu, yes12:39
martiigiggsey_: no problem12:39
giggsey_got to get used to gaim noises and xchat12:39
crimmytarAnta: mixing the repos is a lot trickier12:39
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martiiustin-: so config your ppp12:39
cyber23crimmy: any luck12:39
martiiustin-: to use /dev/ttyLT0 instead of /dev/ttyS012:39
JohnnyfavWhat's the preferred mp3 player for ubuntu?12:40
janetwhich version of linux is the most powerful12:40
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tarAntacrimmy: my principal problem with Debian amd64 is openoffice... it's not a good solution the chroot environment12:40
martiigiggsey_: ok so I go to bed than :)12:40
giggsey_lol12:40
giggsey_i should be soon as well12:40
giggsey_but pfft12:40
martiigiggsey_: glad I could help you12:40
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crimmycyber23: sec, I'm engaged in a few things12:40
IIIEars<< - 5th week using Ubuntu Linux Woohoo! Eat my shorts Bill Gates!12:40
cyber23k12:40
tarAntacrimmy: because openoffice doesn't work good!12:40
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justinjanet: open ended questions like that without any context are not going to give you any useful information.12:41
caineIIIEars i cant find out if i have it or not12:41
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cainedo i need it for the wmv files12:41
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REdsIIIEars, lol12:41
REds;o12:41
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tarAntacrimmy: ubuntu 64 bit works good with 32 bit application or need a chroot env?12:41
janetfor example, between, Ubuntu, Debian, Redhat, Suse, Mandrake, and Slackware12:41
devianthow can i uninstall oss sound modules?12:42
dugjanet: I think we would all say unbiased: Ubuntu :)12:42
lilubui cannot find kernel-k7 in the repositories12:42
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transgressdeviant: how'd you get the oss sound modules?  and try rmmod12:42
IIIEarscaine - Likely you don't have the sun java runtime environment. - You can download it from the Sun site and check the Ubuntu.org/wiki/ for installation instructions12:42
janetI am currently using ubuntu12:42
transgresslilubu: it's there... i'm running it12:42
we2by cyber23 , any luck?12:42
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caineok12:43
justinIIIEars: what does java have to do with wmv?12:43
lilubuis it called kernel-k7 ?12:43
cyber23crimmy: He is doing an awesome job12:43
transgresslilubu: let me look... why not search k7 in synaptic... that should find it12:43
janetbut I wanna to know, if there is another version more powerful than this one12:43
lilubuvery well12:43
Varangercrimmy: I installed the driver but not get audio yet !!!12:43
IIIEarsHe had said he couldn't play wmv from websites no?12:43
Varangercrimmy : :(12:43
cyber23we2by: there was a few problems12:43
devianttransgress: i`ve tryied modprobe -r, but doesen`t work12:43
justinIIIEars: yes, and what does java have to do with wmv?12:44
transgresslinux-image-2.6.10-5-k712:44
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transgressdeviant: did you install the OSS modules?12:44
janetI feel that you guys ignore my questions12:44
IIIEarsYou need to link your browser to gnome.12:44
dugjanet: OK, Ubuntu is very good and probably the most popular.  Mandriva is also good, it is more up to date because they just released a version, but you have to purchase it or else go thru complicated steps to download it12:44
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crimmycyber23: you seem to have a newer X Window System driver12:44
transgressjanet: it's because we hate you.  or perhaps we just missed it12:44
janetDoes anybody knows what I'm asking12:44
imaekIt would make me very sad if there were a 'sudo apt-get install AOL'12:44
imaek:(12:44
flex_I cant install linux-image from ubuntu autoupdate because of ndiswrapper.ko will be overwritten, any way to fix this?12:44
crimmycyber23: the version of the kernel driver, on the other hand, is older12:44
benplautyahooooo! gnome-panel working again!12:44
crimmycyber23: from where did you install the X Window System driver?12:45
justinjanet: no ones knows what you are asking, since all you asked is which one is more "powerful" which means nothing12:45
transgressimaek: well turn off any non free repo's and you'll never even get anything close to that.12:45
Varangercrimmy: I installed the driver but not get audio yet !!!12:45
cyber23crimmy: not sure12:45
transgressflex_: yeah... reinstall ndiswrapper12:45
janetThanks12:45
crimmytarAnta: need a 32chroot12:45
flex_how do I unload it?12:45
LinuxJonesjustin, why don't you go back to #debian ?12:45
crimmytarAnta: (for 32-bit apps)12:45
devianttransgress: i`m not sure. i think i did when i`ve fixed my sound card. but now i`m using ALSA. and when i compile mplayer, it won`t compile with alsa suport :(12:45
imaektransgress: Heh.  I was just saying. If AOL ported to Linux I would loose all faith in humanity.12:45
crimmydeviant: that's probably because you didn't install libasound2-dev prior to compiling mplayer.12:46
transgressimaek: let them port it... i don't think it'll be added to the repo's...12:46
transgressor used for that matter12:46
Sh4d_awFRANCE SAID NO !!!12:46
justinLinuxJones: I didn't see you answer the question.12:46
medkit_Hell, removing a Kernel module is so difficult12:46
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maggots.canalpassofundo.com.br12:46
justinLinuxJones: I was the only one polite enough to tell her that the question was unanswerable12:46
tarAntacrimmy: the same of Debian amd64 then?12:46
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cyber23crimmy: is there anything I can do12:46
crimmytarAnta: currently, very similar.12:46
transgressmedkit_: i had a great way of removing one to get fglrx to work... i deleted the module and rebooted.  worked.12:46
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deviantcrashy: ohhh, yeah :D12:47
medkit_transgress, wich one did u delete?12:47
crimmycyber23: need to figure out how you got that newer fglrx driver for X Window System12:47
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transgressmedkit_: nvidia.ko12:47
IIIEarsimaek - there is an aol dialer to get you online with AOL. - it won't work comepletly with the AOL browser from what i understand.12:47
cyber23crimmy: is there any way to remove it12:47
deviantcrimmy: one more question: what the hell do ihave to do to compile mplayer with video out xv suport ?12:47
medkit_transgress, i don't dare to do that with linked-in Kernel modules12:48
imaekAh.12:48
justinIIIEars: wtf does "You need to link your browser to gnome" mean?12:48
tarAntacrimmy: do you know if it's possible to compile natively openoffice 2.0 for 64bit?12:48
transgressmedkit_: heh yeah probably not always a good idea12:48
Varangercrimmy: I get a "Can't open default sound device!" msg when using mpg123 ....12:48
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medkit_transgress, you have a hint how to recompile a kernel without 2 certain modules?12:50
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IIIEarsjustin - many browser plug-ins to play media use java as the communication interface to pass instructions back and forth.12:50
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crimmycyber23: ah, I see your problem.12:50
justinIIIEars: many browser plugins like what for example?12:50
crimmycyber23: you have xorg-driver-fglrx from Breezy, but you're running Hoary.12:51
crimmycyber23: (bad idea!)12:51
IIIEarsjustin - was i wrong? - what plug-in doesn't?12:51
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cyber23how do i remove12:51
justinIIIEars: I'm asking you what plugin _does_, you're the one that says they do12:51
crimmycyber23: sudo apt-get --reinstall install xorg-driver-fglrx=6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu1012:51
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caineIIIEars: do i need java right now to get the windows media type stuff that i came here to get?12:52
tswI have cheap webcam (ov518 chip) even though I load ovcamchip with modprobe (before or after ov511 gets loaded) it wont use the decoder.. is there something I have missed?12:52
cyber23E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?12:52
cainebecause that site you gave me didnt work12:52
x_orI'm getting an error when I try to compile an app which uses STL.  What do I install to get deque, cerr, etc?  I tried libstlport4.6, but this doesn't help.  The app in question is mpegrec.12:53
crimmydeviant: you need to install libxv-dev12:53
LinuxJonescyber23, you have synaptic open12:53
dugcyber23: that means you didn't use sudo12:53
Varangercrimmy: please... are you reading me?12:53
justinx_or: build_essential12:53
medkit_anyone knows how to remove a linked-in Kernel module?12:53
crimmyVaranger: yes, but notice you're in a line...12:53
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IIIEarscaine - to play windows media no. to use your browser to play windows media i think you will need it.12:53
flodineanyone can help with gnome12:53
x_orJustin:  Thanks.12:53
caineok12:54
cyber23root@ubuntu:/lib/modules/fglrx # sudo apt-get --reinstall install xorg-driver-fglrx=6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu1012:54
cyber23E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)12:54
cyber23E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?12:54
justinx_or: er rather, with a -12:54
x_orHas anyone here installed mpegrec?12:54
cainewell that site didnt work so i googled linux sun java and found the java site12:54
deviantwhat does wthis means: shell-init: error retrieving current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent directories: No such file or directory ?12:54
crimmycyber23: please don't flood here, use #flood12:54
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x_orI figured that out, still didn't help.  Damn.12:54
Varangercrimmy: don't understand you12:54
cyber23sorry12:54
caineim hopin this d/l is gonna work12:54
justindeviant: it means you deleted the directory you were in12:54
IIIEarsassuming that ubuntu already has the right codec preinstalled.12:54
crimmycyber23: close any applications like Synaptic, apt-get, aptitude...12:54
goldfishhttp://www.cb3rob.net/images/linux-sue.jpg12:54
Shuddertrixno!12:54
deviantoh ...12:54
deviant:D12:54
Shuddertrixvmware crashed when i tried to change a cd12:54
crimmyVaranger: it means I'm attempting to help a lot of people; please be patient.12:54
cyber23E: Version '6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu10' for 'xorg-driver-fglrx' was not found12:55
IIIEarsw32codec is what i use i believe it takes care of windows media files12:55
crimmycyber23: sudo apt-get update12:55
Varangercrimmy: ok, sorry !12:55
justincrimmy: it's 1112:55
crimmysorry, I didn't check hoary-security12:56
x_orAny idea what type of file a .da is?12:56
IIIEarslspci gives me a pci video card at .01.  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg wants to place it at .2. is that okay?  - Later in the process should i enable Framebuffer and DRI with GLcore?12:56
justinx_or: what does the file command say it is12:56
cyber23crimmy: thats done12:56
cyber23crimmy: now what12:56
crimmyuh oh, packages.u.c needs a resync12:56
x_orjustin:  Well the makefile complains that it doesn't exist, so I wonder if it needs to be generated by some tool during the compilation process.12:57
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crimmycyber23: now restart gdm12:57
caineok that java didnt d/l12:57
justinx_or: sounds like that program sucks heh12:57
dugx_or: http://www.wotsit.org/12:57
crimmyVaranger: lsmod|grep ^snd_azx12:57
x_orYeah, it is dated, for sure.12:57
cyber23E: Version '6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu10' for 'xorg-driver-fglrx' was not found12:57
justinx_or: what is it supposed to do?12:57
crimmycyber23: as justin noted, it's 11 not 1012:57
x_orAnyone have other suggestions for recording in real time to mp3?  I suppose I could use sox | lame12:58
x_orjustin:  record mp3 from sound card, mpegrec.12:58
Varangercrimmy: it says: snd_azx                15328  312:58
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icemannot sure if i should ask for help here or where ... just set up my wifes computer with "WinLinux2003" and need to configure it for internet access "DHCP" then maybe the network with my ubuntu system .. anyone able to help .. ?12:58
transgressokay when something is write protected from copying it from a cd, what do i need to change to make it writeable?12:58
crimmyVaranger: cat /proc/asound/modules12:58
cainedo i need the linux rpm or the linux java d/l12:58
giggseyHow do I change my screen resoulation?12:58
x_orI cannot figure out how to install sox however.12:58
justinx_or: yeah, sox | lame would work, gstreamer could be made to do it as well12:58
x_orgstreamer, eh?12:58
crimmycaine: use make-jpkg12:58
x_orI need to learn more about that, comes up quite a bit.12:58
icemangiggsey what video card ..12:58
justinx_or: install the sox package12:58
giggseynvidea12:59
icemangiggsey you install the nvidia drivers12:59
x_orjustin:  sudo apt-get install sox doesn't seem to work.  Not sure if I need to modify my repositories, or what.12:59
cyber23sorry, need to open my eyes12:59
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cyber23Errors were encountered while processing:12:59
cyber23 /var/cache/apt/archives/xorg-driver-fglrx_6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu11_i386.deb12:59
cyber23E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)12:59
crimmycaine: (in the java-package package)12:59
justinx_or: yep, you need to enable universe and stuff12:59
giggseyi think its already got them, not sure, i think its on something*102412:59
crimmycyber23: paste the full error in #flood12:59
cainewait im confused now01:00
Varangercrimmy: it says: 0 snd_azx01:00
x_orjustin:  OK, if I enable multiverse, is that a superset of universe, or do I need two separate items, one for multiverse and another for universe?01:00
crimmyVaranger: good01:00
cainecrimmy: what are you talking about01:00
crimmycaine: download either the rpm or the tarball01:00
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justinx_or: you want both01:00
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x_orAh, OK.01:00
crimmycaine: but use make-jpkg to create a deb from whichever you download01:00
caineok im gettin the rpm h/o01:01
icemangiggsey left click on screen .. select configure desktop01:01
crimmyVaranger: lsmod|grep ^snd_pcm_oss01:01
giggseyits only got Change Background Image01:01
giggseyand create some new things01:01
icemanselect display in the list.. opp's you using gnome or kde01:01
giggseygnome01:02
Varangercrimmy: accordig to FAQ, I loaded snd_pcm_oss and snd_mixer_oss01:02
icemangiggsey ... opps im in kde ..01:02
LinuxJonesgiggsey, Sysstem >> Preferences >> Screen Resolution01:02
crimmyVaranger: pgrep esd01:02
Varangercrimmy: but no audio either01:02
icemannot sure if i should ask for help here or where ... just set up my wifes computer with "WinLinux2003" and need to configure it for internet access "DHCP" then maybe the network with my ubuntu system .. anyone able to help .. ?01:02
giggseythanks LinuxJones01:02
Varangercrimmy: 721801:02
giggseywow, thats nice a big!01:03
giggsey*and01:03
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LinuxJonesgiggsey, :)01:03
crimmyVaranger: does ,,amixer'' return a lot of information or "no sound cards..." ?01:03
icemananyone know how to setup internet on a winlinux system01:03
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justiniceman: I don't think anyone here knows what a winlinux system is.01:04
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Varangercrimmy: a lot of information: yes    /    "no sound cards"     no01:04
cainehey if im runnin a linux i386 then i cant run a java-linux-i586...or can I01:04
crimmyVaranger: great. Did you log out and back in after installing the deb you created?01:05
cyber23crimmy: any luck01:05
icemanjustin winlinux is a redhat base linux system that runs from a dos / windows harddrive ... no swap space .. on hard drive ..01:05
justiniceman: try #redhat or #fedora then?01:05
crimmycyber23: sorry, please repaste, I wasn't in #flood01:05
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pschulz01Greetings, trying to get bochs networking working,\01:06
icemanim in ubuntu on my system .. got to migrate the wife slowly to linux ... ;-)01:06
pschulz01Uses tuntap.. any suggestions?01:06
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cainehey if im runnin a linux i386 then i cant run a java-linux-i586...or can I01:06
danko123456is there a i386 one?01:07
danko123456if nto, then, yews, you can.01:07
caineidk im still lookin01:07
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danko123456if there is an 1386 one, then, no, dont get that one,01:07
pschulz01Anyone using tuntap networking (eg. for IP tunneling)01:07
crimmycyber23: you must have installed fglrx from an external (non-ubuntu) repo01:08
danko123456caine, yea, you get that one., i58601:08
cainewell the java site is automatically getting these 2 diff javas for my comp so i gues its ok01:08
cainebut whats better01:08
crimmycyber23: sudo dpkg -P fglrx-6-8-001:08
cainethe linux...or linux rpm01:08
cyber23crimmy: oh my, I got everything messed up01:08
danko123456linux01:09
cyber23crimmy: ok01:09
danko123456then follow this: http://ubuntuguide.org/4.10/index.html#jre .01:09
cyber23crimmy: thats done01:09
danko123456if you wanna get it that way...01:09
danko123456there is also: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#jre . And, www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java01:10
crimmycyber23: ok, now run that command to reinstall xorg-driver-fglrx01:10
cyber23that worked01:10
crimmycyber23: great, now restart gdm01:10
novaflarehmm01:10
danko123456should I take a fever pill if my head h\urts from a fever?01:10
danko123456:)01:10
novaflarewhat should agp aprature be set to in the bios?01:10
ShuddertrixArgh, my system is very unstable. Can't figure out what process is screwing it up01:10
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danko123456you can try top, maybe01:11
cyber23crimmy: back01:11
danko123456there was a message:)01:11
crimmycyber23: any luck?01:11
Shuddertrixnautilus keeps crashing, vmware crashes, gnome-panel is acting weird too01:11
Shuddertrixdanko123456: I'm looking at top -b right now, trying to find a culprit01:11
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ShuddertrixI feel the need of some initscript editing is in order (then some init-switching)01:12
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cyber23crimmy: whats a way to test01:12
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danko123456hey, I was reading tghis one msn group(not my idea) about the techno/rave scene here in Winnipeg where I live, and they have a post your desktop thread, so I post two pictures, one gnome, and one even more weird...and, I notice some other guy posted a screenshot of his Hoary Ubuntu:)01:13
crimmycyber23: run an opengl app01:13
cyber23like01:13
zaphandsHello everyone. I have P4P800 Mother board with integrated AD1985 Sound card and from some reason I can't use the microphone. Is there anyone who knows a fix?01:13
crimmycyber23: or look at the output of glxinfo or the X Window System log01:13
Varangercrimmy: yes, I restarted thesystem after installing the deb01:13
cyber23#flood01:13
caineok i d/led the java now what was that make-install thing01:13
cyber23I have an error01:13
Shuddertrixdanko123456: Cool. It's reaching everyone these days.01:13
danko123456caine, then follow this: http://ubuntuguide.org/4.10/index.html#jre .  there is also: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#jre . And, www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java01:13
cyber23crimmy: I have an error01:14
danko123456Shuddertrix: yeah, I mean, I got it from a guy here in the city, I go to school with, then, I notice this guy has it, and it is a bigger city, but not even that big...01:14
Shuddertrixlol01:14
crimmyVaranger: did you paste the output of amixer to pastebin?01:14
ShuddertrixI know that there are at least 3 ubuntu users in my small town ;)01:14
Varangerpastebin?01:15
Shuddertrixme, my brother, my wife. hehe.01:15
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crimmyVaranger: http://pastebin.com01:15
danko123456I did not expect to see it on that groups post...01:15
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danko123456Varanger: then you tell him the url after you post.01:15
Varangercrimmy: amixer >file.log   ?01:15
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danko123456sure, but then paste that file to pastebin.com01:16
danko123456or just amixer if you can paste from your terminal.01:16
Pop_pa_FrEaKhey danko123456 how are ya today ?01:16
raDeonwhat up01:16
danko123456not so good, I have a horrible headache, thanks for asking...you?01:16
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Pop_pa_FrEaKcan't complain cept can't get ubuntu to install in secondary pc01:17
Pop_pa_FrEaK:(01:17
Tallia1hi!01:17
cyber23http://pastebin.com/29190801:17
cyber23crimmy: http://pastebin.com/29190801:17
Shuddertrixvmware likes it memory01:17
Varangercrimmy: I pasted the result, then?01:17
danko123456Pop_pa_FrEaK: how come?01:17
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Shuddertrix3556k free, 1000k buffers01:17
Tallia1someone could tell me what's the updateserver process that starts sometimes automatically in ubuntu!?01:17
danko123456Varanger: then you tell us teh URL.01:17
Tallia1tnx Andrea01:17
crimmyVaranger: sec, I'm reading cyber23's01:18
Pop_pa_FrEaKkeeps freezing up when setting up system to with hardware clock01:18
Pop_pa_FrEaKduring install01:18
raDeonPop_pa_FrEaK, use linux01:18
Varangercrimmy: ohhh... I used to use #flood now we use pastebin.com !!!01:18
danko123456and never goes on?01:18
devianthow can i remove a module defenetly ?01:18
raDeondeviant, yes01:18
crimmyVaranger: #flood is fine for short pastes01:18
danko123456dpkg --purge package? deviant?01:18
Belialhi i need help setting up NIC in hoary01:18
Tallia1someone could tell me what's the updateserver process that starts sometimes automatically in ubuntu!?01:19
raDeonBelial, yes01:19
Pop_pa_FrEaKnope don't go any farther01:19
raDeonTallia1, yes01:19
danko123456Tallia1: what process, sorry, I dont get which one you mean.01:19
Varangercrimmy: Ok, muy pastebin is: http://pastebin.com/29191001:19
ShuddertrixGRR! vmware crashed AGAIN!01:19
danko123456Belial: what, a wired card? for dhcp?01:19
raDeonShuddertrix, yes01:19
danko123456raDeon: no:-p01:19
ShuddertrixraDeon: your script is annoying.01:19
raDeonoh01:19
raDeonwhat script01:20
BelialraDeon danko123456 : i just installed a Linksys Gigabit EG1032 and need to get it working01:20
raDeonBelial, yes01:20
ShuddertrixraDeon: I assumed you were using a script01:20
raDeonto do what?01:20
danko123456Shuddertrix: he says, Pop_pa_FrEaK use linux, and that is what the guy is using...01:20
raDeonbe neurotic01:20
raDeoni can handle that on my own, thank you01:20
Tallia1updateserver01:20
devianthow can i see if a module is in use, and by which app ?01:20
BelialraDeon: well umm, i go to network preference and it doesn't show up01:20
danko123456Belial: is it recognized in System>Admin>Networking?01:20
Belialdanko123456: no01:21
danko123456Tallia1: I dont think I know that one.01:21
danko123456Belial: how many NICs?01:21
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Belialdanko123456: just this one01:21
crimmycyber23: ugh, I don't think it was compiled with SMP support?01:21
danko123456go pppoeconf in a terminal, tell me if it gets found01:21
crimmycyber23: try installing linux-68601:22
danko123456Pop_pa_FrEaK: not sure what you can do...maybe try a diff cd?01:22
crimmycyber23: (sorry, ATI's not my bag. I used Nvidia equipment.)01:22
Pop_pa_FrEaKit works on this pc np01:22
cyber23I know sorry01:22
crimmycyber23: not your fault :)01:22
danko123456Pop_pa_FrEaK: maybe got damaged, I really am not sure:)01:22
cyber23criimy: your the first person that has made any sence out of it01:23
danko123456should work if it works.01:23
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cyber23how do I install the other kernel01:23
Pop_pa_FrEaKI'll keep tinkering with it01:23
maxy_noobHi Guys!01:23
crimmycyber23: just open a terminal, sudo aptitude install linux-686, then reboot when that's finished01:23
raDeonWHAT'S UP!?!?!01:23
Pop_pa_FrEaKlike ubuntu too much to go to another distro01:23
transgresscyber23: apt-get install linux-image-2.yadayada01:23
danko123456yeah, I mean, it should eventually work.01:23
maxy_noobya, ubuntu rocks!!!01:23
crimmyVaranger: ok, lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*01:23
maxy_noob:D01:23
LinuxJonesmaxy_noob, welcome01:24
danko123456maybe you can even skip the step?01:24
imaekhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16829117104 <== Oh man. A $7.75 sound card. I'm SURE that's high quality.01:24
ShuddertrixPop_pa_FrEaK: That's the spirit! ;)01:24
maxy_noobthanks LinuxJones01:24
cyber23crimmy: thanks again for the help01:24
Pop_pa_FrEaKtrying to get a bunch of my friends to switch to it too01:24
maxy_noobI was interested to know what fonts you guys have for FF01:24
maxy_noobI'm not entirely happy with the present one that I have.01:25
danko123456I use epiphany, not sure which fonts it has, tho.01:25
transgresseh my sound card probably isn't worth much, but it works well01:25
Pop_pa_FrEaKwill try and install it again now01:25
tsumeOsmosisJones :P01:25
Shuddertrixmaxy_noob: if you mean firefox, I just use Sans for sans and Monospace for Serif01:25
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ShuddertrixGot all the msttcorefonts installed, however, so I see a lot of Tahoma and Arial..01:25
jasmuzI quick question..01:25
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danko123456please dont ask...01:26
danko123456:-p01:26
Tallia1danko123456: updatedb....01:26
Pop_pa_FrEaKShuddertrix, how did you get them ?01:26
danko123456ah, so, what about that?01:26
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ShuddertrixPop_pa_FrEaK: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts01:26
Shuddertrixif i recall correctly.01:26
danko123456Tallia1: yeah, I know that one:)01:26
Pop_pa_FrEaKdoh!!!01:26
Tallia1:)01:26
Pop_pa_FrEaKshould of known it would be easy01:26
maxy_noobShuddertrix, I don't have any of those.01:26
Belial_danko123456: i'm back sorry01:26
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danko123456Belial, hey I was about to ask you...01:27
ShuddertrixMy wife enjoys having Verdana for sans and Monospace for serif. She sees a lot of tahoma, arial, and verdana.. :P01:27
Varangercrimmy: esd     7218 salmenara    5w   CHR   14,3      6757 /dev/dsp01:27
danko123456did you try pppoeconf in a terminal did that come up with a card?01:27
Belial_danko, ya?01:27
jasmuzI upgraded my kernel...To the lastest 2.6.1-11-k7, and i have lost mi sound...Does anyone know how to get it back...it works fine with my 2.6.8.1-3.386 kernel01:27
Belial_i didn't try, i have to reboot into linux01:27
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crimmyVaranger: ok. mpg123 -desd foo.mp301:27
Belial_then reboot back to here01:27
crimmyVaranger: does ^ work?01:27
Varangercrimmy: I tried just mpg123 foo.mp3 and didn't work01:28
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crimmyVaranger: but -desd?01:28
danko123456Belial, aha, well, I dunno, that is teh best I can do to see if it gets detected. After that, you need to set it up for dhcp, or whatever you use. Do you have a rotuer?01:28
Varangercrimmy: I'll try with -desd01:28
Belial_danko123456: yeah i have a router01:28
Belial_danko i use dhcp01:28
ShuddertrixWow, vmware is acting slow01:28
crimmyVaranger: sorry, it's -o esd01:29
ShuddertrixERROR: 0210: Stuck Key. Very strange.01:29
jasmuzI upgraded my kernel...To the lastest 2.6.1-11-k7, and i have lost mi sound...Does anyone know how to get it back...it works fine with my 2.6.8.1-3.386 kernel..HELP01:29
Belial_danko123456: is it possible i don't have the right driver installed or something?01:29
danko123456then you will need dhcp, you can get it tghrough that network applet in gnome we spoke about earlier, or, you can hard code it into a file, /etc/network/interfaces01:29
danko123456Belial, I would not think so...01:29
crimmyjasmuz: erm, do you mean 2.6.11-1-k7 from hoary/universe?01:29
danko123456perhaps not the right kernel, but that is all that is possible01:29
jasmuzcrimmy: yes01:29
Varangercrimmy: with -desd is Can't open default sound device!01:29
danko123456 it's -o esd01:30
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Belial_danko123456: my last card didn't work either01:30
danko123456:) nice:)01:30
Varangercrimmy: with -o esd it's mpg123: Unknown argument "esd" to option "esd"01:30
Johnnyfavok, I'm installing an application for about the first time...zinf-2.2.5.....the ./configure comes up with an error with $path...is there a certain way I should be installing this thing for ubuntu?01:30
danko123456well, go try and see if that comes up with a eth0 at all.01:30
Belial_danko123456: k, i'll be back in a minute01:30
danko123456if it does, then you just need to configure it, if not, maybe you need a new kernel.01:30
danko123456k01:30
danko123456Maybe I wont be here, dunno01:31
crimmyVaranger: ok, let's do this another way. pkill esd && aplay -Dplughw:0,0 foo.wav01:31
jasmuzcrimmy: any clues?...i would like to update to a newer kernel, and more compatible with my processor01:31
ShuddertrixJohnnyfav: sudo apt-get install zinf01:31
crimmyjasmuz: that newer kernel is completely unsupported01:31
Shuddertrixyou have to add the universe repositories, first, however01:31
crimmyjasmuz: it's recommended that you use 2.6.10-5-k701:31
Varangercrimmy: can I use foo.mp3 ? I think I don't have wave files!01:31
jasmuzcrimmy: that also looses sound01:32
crimmyVaranger: you have wav files. dpkg -L ubuntu-sounds01:32
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crimmyjasmuz: which chipset?01:32
Pop_pa_FrEaKdanko would it freezeup if there is no mouse connected to the pc ?01:32
Varangercrimmy: you are right, I have wave files01:33
jasmuzcrimmy: its an ASrock 74gx motherboard with an AMD 2400+ Semprom01:33
crimmyjasmuz: (I meant the sound chipset)01:33
justinJohnnyfav: why don't you just install the zinf package?01:33
jasmuzcrimmy: 0000:00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  Sound Controller (rev a0)01:34
Varangercrimmy: I've got audio!!!!!!!!! but now what can I do mpg123 ?01:34
jasmuzcrimmy: that is the result of lspci01:34
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Varangerjasmuz: try: modprobe cmpci01:34
crimmyjasmuz: I need the -vv version, paste in #flood01:34
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cyber23crimmy: back, was do I do now01:35
crimmycyber23: test again.01:35
Johnnyfavok...01:35
crimmycyber23: if it fails, paste X Window System log to pastebin, and tell me the url.01:35
Johnnyfavhow do I install the zinf package01:35
JohnnyfavI'm new to this01:36
crimmyJohnnyfav: reread what Shuddertrix typed.01:36
jasmuzcrimmy:  done01:36
cyber23crimmy: guess what01:36
JohnnyfavI did01:36
Johnnyfavthe pakage isn't found01:36
ShuddertrixSomeone tell Johnnyfav the link on how to add the universe/multiverse repositories. I forgot the link again.01:36
Johnnyfavand I changed the hoary thing to that ..yes01:36
jasmuzcrimmy: by the way in not using the latest kernel right now01:36
dabaSlonJohnnyfav ^^ enable universe01:36
cyber23crimmy: ITS WORKING01:36
crimmyjasmuz: err, that's the oss module.01:36
Johnnyfavalready did01:36
crimmyjasmuz: why are you using oss instead of alsa?01:36
ShuddertrixJohnnyfav: sudo apt-get update01:36
dabaSloncyber23 excellent01:37
Johnnyfaverrors come up01:37
ShuddertrixJohnnyfav: Then, sudo apt-get install zinf01:37
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cyber23WOOOOHOOO01:37
dabaSlonJohnnyfav aftger you add a repo, you need a sudo apt-get update01:37
jasmuzcrimmy: let me check wich is the default sink for Gnome01:37
Johnnyfavmain universe multiverse restricted01:37
Johnnyfavthat's what I typed in01:37
Johnnyfavfor the backports01:38
Johnnyfavand the source hoary01:38
jasmuzcrimmy:  it says default sink : Alsa01:38
dabaSlonjust a sec01:38
cyber23getting an error with WIne directdraw HAL01:38
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GXT_23Nabend01:38
dr_williscyber23,  yea - seen that issue with some games befor. :(01:38
crimmyjasmuz: well, that's no surprise. You've loaded the oss modules (which conflict with alsa ones), therefore alsa won't work.01:38
cyber23but the game work01:38
dr_williscyber23,  oh? wat game?01:38
cyber23on cedegas site theye say it works01:39
jasmuzcrimmy: then how can i load the alsa ones as default?01:39
Johnnyfaverror 403 forbidden comes up01:39
dr_williscyber23,  you are saying they SAY ot works.. but it dosent? :P01:39
cyber23star wars knights of the old republic II01:39
crimmyjasmuz: load the snd-cmipci module instead01:39
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novaflareim still digging around for general d3d tweaks for cedega01:39
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Shuddertrixnovaflare: you've asked #cedega, right?01:39
Belial_danko123456: im back01:40
novaflareyup no answer yet01:40
novaflarebrb dog wanting out01:40
Belial_danko123456: pppoeconf didn't see it01:40
jasmuzcrimmy: but how can i make it default so it will work with my normal setup?01:40
Varangercrimmy: I've got sound !!!!!!!01:40
dabaSlonJohnnyfav who said anything about backports?01:40
whittiI have a Windows 98 disc here which I need to make a bootable iso for VMware (the cd drive wasn't working for one reason). How would I create that?01:40
Varangercrimmy: but it is not that clear01:40
dabaSlonhttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto#uncommenting-universe01:40
dabaSlonthen reload in synaptic01:40
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dabaSlonand search for your program, I think.01:41
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dabaSlonBelial_ and?01:41
dabaSlonBelial_ ah, not sure then.01:41
Belial_dabaSlon: oh hi01:41
dabaSloncrimmy is there a reason an NIC would not be detected?01:41
Belial_dabaSlon: well what can i do01:41
Belial_dabaSlon: let me ask you this, what are the normal steps for installing a NIC01:41
Belial_dabaSlon: i may not have done somethign u may think really obvious01:42
dabaSlonPNP (plugnPlay01:42
jasmuzcrimmy: im gonna try that...thanks01:42
Belial_dabaSlon: oh01:42
dabaSlonjust a sec, let me see what crimmy has to say about it.01:42
Belial_ok thanks01:42
dabaSlonwelcome01:42
dabaSlontell me the make and model, 2, so we can google it.01:43
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Belial_Linksys EG103201:43
crimmydabaSlon: [e] isa nics probably won't make the cut01:43
Shuddertrixwhitti: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=win98.iso01:43
crimmyVaranger: which audio sink are you using now?01:43
Shuddertrixwhitti: that assumes that your cdrom devices is /dev/cdrom and you want win98.iso01:44
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Varangercrimmy: what is a sink?01:44
dabaSlonthanks, crimmy, Belial_ http://network.free-driver-download.com/Linksys/14924/Linksys-EG1032-v2-Gigabit-Network-Adapter-Driver-1.30-Windows-Linux.html :-/01:44
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Belial_tried that01:44
whittiShuddertrix, That created a 350 kb iso01:44
Belial_those will only work with kernels up to 2.401:44
crimmyVaranger: in System>Preferences>Multimedia Systems Selector01:45
Belial_it does a kernel version check and stops01:45
dabaSlonha01:45
Shuddertrixwhitti: hmm, i figured it might have worked.01:45
dabaSlongoogled around?01:45
Belial_first thing i did01:45
Shuddertrixwhitti: is your cdrom device /dev/cdrom ?01:45
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whittiShuddertrix, Is that the default ubuntu setup? I know it's mounted on /media/cdrom001:46
Varangercrimmy: output ESD   (strange because I killed esd a while ago)   input: OSS01:46
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Shuddertrixwhitti: Check your /etc/fstab01:46
whittisure01:46
ShuddertrixSee which /dev mounts to /media/cdrom001:47
crimmyVaranger: ok. Is esd still running? (pgrep esd)01:47
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Johnnyfavkewl01:47
Johnnyfavthanx for your help01:47
JohnnyfavI got it01:47
Belial_dabaSlon: so yeah, any thoughts?01:48
spanglesontoasthow do I make something in my asoundrc the default for all players etc01:48
whittiShuddertrix, It appears to be working, with the correct setup :). I'll tell you if it works01:48
crimmyspanglesontoast: redefine pcm.!default01:48
spanglesontoasthow?01:48
Shuddertrixwhitti: what appears to be working?01:48
crimmyspanglesontoast: tell it to use your desired target01:48
dabaSlonI am reading:) crimmy, so how can we know if that card he has is the [e] isa?01:48
crimmyspanglesontoast: pcm.!default { type plug  slave.pcm "foo" }01:48
crimmyspanglesontoast: where foo is the pcm definition01:49
spanglesontoastmy target is pcm.duplicate01:49
crimmyso replace foo with duplicate01:49
spanglesontoastok01:49
JormundgandThat little flirt with Fedora was enlightening.01:49
crimmythen restart your alsa apps01:49
whittiShuddertrix, It seems to be copying and the drive is making sound ;)01:49
Shuddertrixwhitti: Ah, ok01:49
Varangercrimmy: I killed it as you told me01:49
ShuddertrixMake sure the ISO is about 400mb when it's done.. I'm pretty sure that's the size of the win98 image (in case you need confirmation)01:50
crimmyVaranger: ah, so you're using alsa directly in essence.01:50
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whittiShuddertrix, sure01:50
Varangercrimmy: so....01:50
Shuddertrix380mb? I can't remember01:50
crimmyVaranger: start esd manually.01:50
spanglesontoastgot no sound01:50
dabaSlonShuddertrix a site with windows downloads?01:50
crimmyVaranger: then use mpg123 foo.mp3 directly01:50
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ShuddertrixdabaSlon: Huh? I was talking to whitti01:50
crimmyspanglesontoast: how are you testing?01:50
spanglesontoastpcm.!default { type plug  slave.pcm "duplicate" }01:51
lsuactiafnerdoes marvell wireless cards work well in linux?01:51
spanglesontoastxmms01:51
PenguinOfDoomI dist-upgraded from unstable to hoary. Is there a way to downgrade all my packages to Ubuntu versions?01:51
ShuddertrixdabaSlon: whitti is making a iso image of his win98 cd for vmware.01:51
crimmyspanglesontoast: is your duplicate just ttables (routing), or does it include dmix/dsnoop/asym?01:51
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spanglesontoastpcm.duplicate {01:52
spanglesontoast    type plug01:52
spanglesontoast    slave.pcm "surround51"01:52
spanglesontoast    slave.channels 601:52
spanglesontoast    route_policy duplicate01:52
spanglesontoast}01:52
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spanglesontoastsoz for big paste01:52
crimmyoh, you can't redefine .!default to be a plug01:52
spanglesontoasthow do i do it then?01:52
crimmyyou'll have to specify it as the alsa device for all apps by hand.01:52
spanglesontoastthat's a pain?01:53
whittiShuddertrix: Seems the right size, Now I'll just check it in Vmware01:53
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crimmyspanglesontoast: yes, but it's the only way currently.01:53
Varangercrimmy: I run just "esd" without any options, listened some noises and I am not sure it this is well01:53
spanglesontoastbummer01:53
dabaSlonwell, he can make aliases with that option, cant he?01:53
crimmyVaranger: what noises (from what app)?01:53
Belial_dum dum dee dum01:53
Varangercrimmy: and with mpg123 foo.mp3 : Can't open default sound device!01:53
crimmydabaSlon: plug can't take plug as a slave01:53
spanglesontoastwish there was some kinda script that would run on most media devices01:53
spanglesontoastand make them auto have duplicate there01:53
Varangercrimmy: noises when starting esd01:53
crimmyspanglesontoast: you could submit it as a bug, and it'll be considered upstream01:54
crimmyVaranger: hmm, so esd doesn't work period?01:54
spanglesontoastcould do01:54
dabaSlonout.01:54
whittiShuddertrix: I think I have a bug in Vmware, because it doesn't feel any of my discs are bootable: Would this iso be bootable?01:55
Varangercrimmy: but I get the same error with mpg12301:55
Belial_so yeah01:55
Varangercrimmy: not at all01:55
Belial_linksys eg103201:55
spanglesontoasthow do I run doom legacy?01:55
Belial_...01:55
dr_willisspacey,  i think you need the original doom wads.01:56
Varangershould I add snd_azx, and snd_pcm_oss and snd_mixer_oss to /etc/modules ? maybe esd has to recongnize it when loading?01:56
crimmyVaranger: ok, so basically what you should do for now (until Breezy releases) is change the audio sink to alsa01:56
dr_willisoops spanglesontoast  :P01:56
spaceyno i don't!01:56
crimmyVaranger: then uncheck the "Enable sound server startup" option in System>Preferences>Sound01:56
dr_willisYes you do! you want them! :P01:56
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spaceyi denie everything!01:56
dr_willisspacey,  too late! your denial is Proof! now if we can just figure out what you did!01:56
Varangershould I edit my /etc/modules file?01:57
crimmyVaranger: also, echo "default_driver=alsa09" > ~/.libao01:57
spacey:)01:57
crimmyVaranger: no, don't touch /etc/modules01:57
dr_willisHmm doom legacy has some data files even.. free levels perhaps.01:57
crimmyVaranger: (unless snd_azx is not being loaded at boot?)01:57
whittiShuddertrix: I'll see if someone can help in #vmware. Thanks for the help01:57
Varangershould snd_mixer_oss and snd_pcm_oss be loaded at startup ?01:58
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Belial_.... still need help here02:00
spanglesontoastwhere is the cedega settings for alsa?02:00
Madpilothi again... can someone give me a hand getting Firestarter up? I installed it, ran the wizard, and set it up to run on startup - but now I get a popup saying "insufficient privileges to run firestarter" - what gives?02:00
gbicdood02:00
gbicI just told you in #cedega02:00
gbicpls to read02:00
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spanglesontoastno you didn;t02:01
gbicsure I did02:01
spanglesontoastsay again02:01
dr_willisspanglesontoast,   cedega has all its settings in like .cedega or somthing similer02:01
gbicspanglesontoast anyone know much about specifying alsa stuff?02:01
gbicgbic yes02:01
gbicgbic change to02:01
gbicgbic [WinMM] 02:01
gbicgbic "Drivers" = "winealsa.drv"02:01
gbicgbic from wineoss.drv02:01
gbicgbic [ALSA] 02:01
gbicgbic "PlaybackDevice" = "default"02:01
gbicREAD02:01
gbicspanglesontoast where that?02:01
gbicgbic in your config02:01
gbicgbic user/.transgaming/config02:01
gbicspanglesontoast Iah02:01
gbicspanglesontoast ah02:01
gbicspanglesontoast ty02:01
spanglesontoastoh yea but theres no dir that contains config like that02:01
gbiclol02:02
tiglionabbithello.  My sound lags behind the video by a few seconds when I try to play flash or avi02:02
tiglionabbitwhat do ya think I could do to fix that?02:02
spanglesontoasti using transgaming02:02
Belial_ok i'm going to try to do something else02:02
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Belial_how do i update my kernel?02:02
dr_willisspanglesontoast,  ters also the .transgaming* dirs02:03
BiffBelial_: precompiled packages are called linux-image-02:03
gbicthats what I said dr_willis02:03
gbicheh02:03
gbicin /USER/.transgaming/02:03
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spanglesontoast.transgaming_global TransGaming_Drive02:03
spanglesontoastare the only ones I have02:03
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novaflare.transgamming is a hidden dir02:04
Belial_Biff: i can use this to update my kernel?02:04
novaflareunder normal terminal it wont show02:04
dr_willisnot very well hidden :P02:04
novaflarewell its hidden in that it doesnt show under ls02:04
novaflareyou can direcly cd to it though02:04
spanglesontoastdoesn't exist full stop02:04
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we2byhow do I reload a kernel module like ide-cd ?02:04
danko123456ls -a02:04
gbicthen youve screwed up something02:04
dr_willisspanglesontoast,  how did you install cedega then?02:04
spanglesontoastah02:05
spanglesontoastpoint2play/.winex_ver/winex-4.3.2/.transgaming02:05
spanglesontoastthere we go02:05
novaflareheres where my config file is02:05
novaflare/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega/.transgaming02:05
novaflaretype sudo cd /usr/lib/transgaming_cedega/.transgaming02:05
_paulhow do i enable root login on post in kubuntu? anyoneknow?02:05
dr_willispoint to play allows custome configs for each program.02:05
novaflare(may not need sudo02:05
dr_willis_paul,  on post?02:05
_paulyes on the login screen02:05
dr_willis_paul,  the faq covers this :P 'sudo passwd'02:05
tiglionabbitI know someone's had this problem before.  What should I do to fix sound syncing with .avi and .swf format?02:05
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dm1triThe ALSA does not function in mplayer, somebody can help me?02:06
_pauli need to configure apache, and i need to enable root account for login on post02:06
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Anubisdm1tri, esd02:06
dr_willis_paul,  you really can configre apache without doing that. :P02:06
_pauli cant sorry02:06
dr_willis_paul,  but i tend to reable it to the mor enormal way any way..02:07
crimmydm1tri: are you using mplayer -ao alsa $somemediafile ?02:07
dr_willisyou can sudo to root in a login shell after logining in as your first user.02:07
_paultoo bad, ubuntu/kubuntu seem like nice os's, but i find the programmers are treating the users like children02:07
dr_willis_paul,  they are very 'security' aware.02:07
REdsbut thats wat windows does02:07
REdstreats people like children _paul02:07
novaflare_paul i happen to like the way ubuntu is set up02:07
crimmy_paul: err? Nothing's stopping you from enabling the root account. It's just not done _by default_.02:08
dm1tricrimmy, yeah02:08
Belial_dabaSlon: ok i'm gonna try updating my kernel, how do i do this?02:08
spanglesontoastcan't find much about alsa in that config02:08
novaflarei wish windows worked more like ubuntu02:08
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_pauli dont need someone else deciding what my security settings should be, ive run root for three years under other os's and never had a problem02:08
novaflarewhen somethign needs to be ran as admin up pops a nice prompt for pass word02:08
norrbaggenim running hoary and wonder how do i check what version of XFree86 i run?02:08
crimmy_paul: as a competent admin, then, you know you can just sudo -s and passwd ...02:08
novaflareI think point is with ubuntu you dont need to be logged in as root02:08
LinuxJones_paul, it's not very hard to set a root password02:09
_paullinux users are more advanced than that, windows yes, i can see that, but not in linux, its not like youve made linux so simple anyone can use it02:09
dr_willis_paul,  youve learned a bad habbit then.   and after useing linux for 3 years ya should know better, :P and how to get it working normally.02:09
norrbaggenthe check.sh script does not work02:09
REdsif u were a competent admin would u use lfs or debian on its own _paul02:09
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REdsand u wanted security in mind02:09
dm1tricrimmy, alsa not function in mplayer, xmms ...02:09
novaflare<<<< ive been running ubuntu for a week i think02:09
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_paulim not a child , and i dont like people telling me what my security settings should be, this is not up to them02:09
novaflareand only other linux i ran was redhat 9 shrike for like 2 months02:09
novaflarenever learned much then thoguh02:09
crimmy_paul: nothing's being hard-coded for you, do you understand?02:10
LinuxJones_paul, Debian is a fine distro use that02:10
REds_paul, how simple do u want kde or gnome to be, its simple enuf to use for most02:10
tiglionabbityo guys, I played an avi in mplayer and the sound lags behind by quite a bit.  What should I do?02:10
_paulyes, and i would like to know how to enable root login on post02:10
crimmytiglionabbit: kill esd and use the alsa output directly02:10
norrbaggentiglionabbit, try vlc player02:10
crimmy_paul: there are instructions in the faq in the topic.02:10
REds_paul, if u wanted security ud most likely use LFS or gentoo and build your own packages and compile ur own sys02:10
crystal_I cannot write to my flash drive, I get a message saying it is a read only disk.   Help please?02:10
tiglionabbithow do I set it to use alsa?02:11
sysrq_paul: if you are the advanced user you claim to be, then you would know that root isn't disabled, it just doesn't have a password set.02:11
norrbaggenhow do i check what version of XFree86 i run? or what is standard in hoary?02:11
crimmynorrbaggen: X -version02:11
REdsits in a file in /etc/gdm somewere, were u can allow root users02:11
_paulive never claimed to be advanced, ive use linux, xandros for three years is what ive said02:11
norrbaggencrimmy, ?02:11
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tiglionabbitthere is a gui setup for gdm that lets you allow root logins02:11
crimmynorrbaggen: type that in a terminal window02:11
norrbaggenthanks02:11
_paulive never seen any distro other than ubuntu that didnt have root enabled, i found out how to enable it in ubuntu, but kubuntu yet02:11
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JDahlnorrbaggen, Hoary uses Xorg, not XFree8602:12
_paulnot02:12
sysrqas I said, it isn't disabled02:12
crimmy_paul: same way in kubuntu02:12
norrbaggenmkay X -version does not tell what version of Xorg02:12
_paulthe interfaces are different02:12
dm1triAnubis, which the name of the package of the ESD?02:12
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crimmydm1tri: cat /proc/asound/modules02:12
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JDahlnorrbaggen, xdpyinfo in a terminal under X will also tell you02:13
_paulmaybe ill give mandriva a try then, thanks02:13
norrbaggennm thanks02:13
spanglesontoastsome how xchat crashed02:13
tiglionabbitokay you guys, I already had mplayer set to alsa sound, and esd is already configured to yeild to new applications02:13
JDahl_paul, where's the fire? you can set rootpassword if you want to02:13
dm1tricrimmy, root@trambique:/etc/init.d # cat /proc/asound/modules02:13
dm1tri0 snd_intel8x002:13
_paulsetting the root pwd is not what i asked, enabling root login on post is the question02:13
crimmydm1tri: pgrep esd02:13
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Charliehi ppl someone here can help me out with mounting an ipod mini (vfat)?02:14
tiglionabbit_paul: go to the setup for kdm then02:14
crimmy"on post", _paul?02:14
crystal_I cannot write to my flash drive, I get a message saying it is a read only disk.   I tryed adjusting the permissions and it said the same thing.     Help please?02:14
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tiglionabbit_paul: besides, why would you want to login as root?  That's unsafe.  Use sudo, or a root terminal instead02:14
crimmycrystal_: dmesg should offer clues as to why it's mounted read-only02:14
dm1tricrimmy, root@trambique:/etc/init.d # pgrep esd02:14
dm1tri858702:14
sysrqenabling root login from (k|g)dm is rather diferent from "enabling root login"02:14
norrbaggenanyone got ati 9600 mobile running with 3d acceleration and agp under hoary?02:14
_paulevery time you get in a car its unsafe, should we all stop driving?02:15
crimmydm1tri: you can't use alsa directly while esd is running and hogging the alsa device02:15
_paulfor christ sakes, theres nothing wrong with using root for system administration02:15
tiglionabbit_paul: only if there was a safe alternative.  What if you call not using root for your window manager and irc chat the same thing as "wearing seatbelts" ?02:15
sysrqthere is for using it for every day usage, priveledge seperation exists for a reason02:15
crimmy_paul: if you stop being pedantic for a second and just answer my question, I can _try_ to help, but if you keep on your tirade, I think there's little I can do02:15
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_paulIm tired of arguing with chicken littles, running around screaming the root is falling, the root is falling, lmao02:16
blewrofl02:16
tiglionabbituhhh02:16
Madpilotwow...02:16
tiglionabbitwhat prick02:16
blewYeah really02:16
crimmyeh it happens.02:16
dm1tricrimmy,  the ESD this twirling together with the ALSA?02:16
crimmytime for coffee. :)02:16
JDahl_paul, what is you're trying to do? just setting the root password?02:16
Madpilotspeaking of root... (ducks) how do I get Firestarter to start up automatically?02:16
crimmydm1tri: yes02:16
ustin-where is modprobe.conf, i cant find it in /etc02:16
tiglionabbithe's gone, jdahl02:16
quailsterhey, I am a new user of ubuntu. In fact, I just started using it a few hours back. So far, I like it very much.02:16
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ustin-can anyone help?02:17
dm1triouch!02:17
crimmydm1tri: kill esd, then use mplayer -ao alsa foo02:17
LinuxJonesrolf that was entertaining for 2 seconds02:17
Charliesomeone here can help me out with mounting an ipod mini (vfat)?02:17
LinuxJonesMadpilot, 1 sec I will get you a link02:17
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Belial_crimmy: any help for my Linksys EG1032 NIC?02:17
lifelessnew install of hoary, totem-gstreamer hangs when I insert a dvd. if I quit it and run vlc, vlc can play the dvd.02:18
lifelessany ideas ?02:18
crimmyBelial_: sorry, let me look.02:18
sysrqCharlie: plug it in, watch dmesg for the device created and mount it02:18
ustin-where is modprobe.conf, i cant find it in /etc02:18
crimmyustin-: do _not_ use modprobe.conf02:18
Belial_crimmy: thanks02:18
crimmyustin-: its presence will bypass /etc/modprobe.d/*02:18
dm1tricrimmy, uau!!!!02:18
dm1triuhuuul!!!!02:18
Charliesysrq: i can get it mounted.. but after like 10secs my /dev/sda2 is "gone"02:18
IIIEarsqualister - Welcome!  ("" Ubuntu new user)02:18
sysrqCharlie: anything in dmesg or other logs mentioning anything about it?02:19
MadpilotLinuxJones: thnx, I'm reading the Firestarter web docs right now, think I'm getting somewhere...02:19
quailsterIIIEars: thanks02:19
Charliesysrg : usb 4-2: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 2102:19
tiglionabbitoh, I solved my problem02:19
Charlieis the last thing before it's "gone"02:20
tiglionabbitin mplayer preferences, I set the audio delay to negative .502:20
tiglionabbitso it plays the sound sooner than it wants to, ending up at just the right time02:20
tiglionabbithooray02:20
sysrqCharlie: never seen such an issue with my H140, sorry02:20
LinuxJonesMadpilot, it's in the faq section >> http://www.fs-security.com/docs/faq.php02:22
Charliesysrq : also weird is that i sometimes can mount it... but only after like 30seconds after connecting... and most of the time that also doesn't work02:22
crimmyBelial_: does ns82820 in Hoary not work?02:22
crimmyBelial_: sorry, ns83820 rather02:23
Belial_crimmy: i dunno, how do i find out?02:23
crimmyBelial_: lsmod|grep ^ns8382002:23
Belial_that exact syntax?02:23
norrbaggenanyone got ati 9600 mobile running with 3d acceleration and agp under hoary?02:23
crimmyyes02:23
REdsye02:24
REds9700 and 9800's02:24
Belial_i'll try that and reboot back here02:24
MadpilotLinuxJones: got it... I had the Sessions entry set wrong... thanks!02:24
norrbaggencan anyone give me a hint? im a linux noob02:24
Dr_Melectauswhy is it takeing so long for the torrent tracker to get back up and running02:24
REdsi just installed it and it worked02:24
Dr_Melectausive only got 200 megs to go and want to be rid of dows02:24
REdsnorrbaggen, t2 secs02:24
REdsnorrbaggen, leme check somethn02:24
norrbaggenthnx02:24
dr_willisdarn wife called me - and i missed _paul :P02:24
norrbaggeni got a laptop02:24
dr_willisand i even ansqwered his question at the start. lol.02:25
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Pop_pa_FrEaKman I've tried everything and no go with ubuntu on my secondary pc02:25
REdsnorrbaggen, search for gatos, google.com/linux, and ill find somethn else also02:26
Madpilotdr_willis: you didn't miss anything, really! :p02:26
dr_willisMadpilot,  aparently he dident realzie that root cant login - because root has no password.. and i got NO idea where he got the term "post" from :P02:27
REdsnorrbaggen, apt-cache search fglrx, check that out02:27
dr_willisMadpilot,  but heck - hes used linux for 3 years!  :P02:27
norrbaggenil ttry that thanx02:27
geneo93Pop_pa_FrEaK:  try turning off pnp02:27
REdsnorrbaggen, xorg-driver-fglrx and a few others etc, nps mate :D02:27
Madpilotdr_willis: I've used Ubuntu for less than three weeks, and knew he was full of sh*t...02:28
norrbaggenthis is why a love linux community hate windows02:28
dr_willisMadpilot,  Heh heh :P A+ to you!02:28
Madpilotdr_willis: of course, I don't have any bad habits to unlearn from other Linux distros... :)02:28
nbktheres something in my bum02:29
REdsnorrbaggen, haha ;o02:29
Madpilotdr_willis: just my windows bad habits...02:29
dr_willisit really gets annoying that  "how to i login as root' gets asked like 100 times a day :P then they rant about it...02:29
norrbaggen:P02:29
dr_willis"i need to login as root because......" when in fact they DONT..02:30
IIIEarsdr_willis - Do Macs use sudo?02:31
REdscourse ;p02:31
REdsthats all the same02:31
IIIEarsMac is the magic word :)02:31
dr_willisIIIEars,  OS-X has a root account - but they have it so hidden :P02:31
IIIEarsAh02:31
dr_willissame with how they have Case-Insentive file names (i hear) :P02:31
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IIIEarscase insensitive? - ugh02:32
dr_willisnot sure how its doing that.  and I dont want to fire up another "Case Insnetive file names  Vs. Case Senestive file name" war.02:32
spanglesontoastwhat's so good about bash?02:32
Pop_pa_FrEaKgeneo93, it is off02:32
dr_willisspanglesontoast,  it does the job very well.02:32
Madpilotback in a mo... going to restart X to test something...02:32
IIIEarsMadPilot - is an optimist.. - grin02:33
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IIIEarslspci gives me a pci video card at .01.  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg wants to place it at .2. is that okay?  - Later in the process should i enable Framebuffer and DRI with GLcore?02:34
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benplautso...02:34
Zodiacallo allo02:34
IIIEarsHello Zodiac02:34
ZodiacI know I have asked this before on here... but here goes again02:35
Madpilotback... still fiddling with Firestarter...02:35
benplautif i use xfce with gnome-panel, openbox, the gnome GUI config tools, and nautilus, what am i running?02:35
Zodiacwhat package is needed to play mp3z?02:35
lsuactiafnerif you want to run root goto your console and run root, or su.. if you dont know how to enable things to run as root as you would like to then you dont know enough to decide that you want to run firefox or whatever as root, running firefox as root is dumb.02:35
lsuactiafnerbenplaut : ps aux02:36
lsuactiafneror run top02:36
spanglesontoastso why does ubuntu have dash?02:36
IIIEarsZodiac - gstreamer-mad, or w32codec - there are a lot of choices02:36
Pop_pa_FrEaKhey geneo93 you are a genius and thank you.... I put pnp on and rebooted and it bypassed the freezing this time02:36
Zodiacgstreamer thats it02:36
Zodiacthanx bro02:36
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lsuactiafnerZodiac : xmms mostly02:36
Shuddertrixstupid vmware cdrom.. thingy :P02:36
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ZodiacMan the people in this IRC chat are nice compared to other linux ones :)02:37
lsuactiafneri use mplayer and mp3blaster tho02:37
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IIIEars<< - pleased crimmy didn't have to field ALL #ubuntu questions - lol02:37
shadeofgreyare any of you familiar with installing drupal?02:37
Pop_pa_FrEaKShuddertrix, guess what ?02:37
geneo93Pop_pa_FrEaK:  i've had that work on 90% of install problems02:37
ShuddertrixZodiac: Because ubuntu is well-natured, we are well-natured. It's only.. natural ;)02:37
ShuddertrixPop_pa_FrEaK: what?02:37
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Zodiacoh man that was corny :)02:37
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Pop_pa_FrEaKubuntu is installing finally on my second pc02:37
Zodiacha ha02:37
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spanglesontoastis beep media player just as good as xmms?02:37
lsuactiafneryeh crappin on someones head for being stupid makes you a person crappin on someones head but it doesnt solve anything02:38
ShuddertrixZodiac:  ;)02:38
ShuddertrixPop_pa_FrEaK: nice, what did you do?02:38
shadeofgreyspang:  beep far exceeds xmms is every respect02:38
Pop_pa_FrEaKturned pnp on02:38
Pop_pa_FrEaKin bios02:38
Madpilotlsuactiafner: ;)02:38
ShuddertrixPop_pa_FrEaK: ah, i was going to suggest changing a pnp or video option, but i wasn't sure which one to suggest changing. ;)02:38
lsuactiafnerShuddertrix :i have a slackware chroot and basically my ubuntu got pwned by slackware, most of my ubuntu runs like slackware does now02:38
spanglesontoastdoes it support shoutcast stations ?02:38
IIIEars4 weeks ago RTFM would of prompted another question. - lol02:39
shadeofgreyspang:  why dont you google that question and figure it out?02:39
lsuactiafnerspanglesontoast : xmms is most popular02:39
spanglesontoastyea I know02:39
spanglesontoastbut bmp supports winamp skins02:39
lsuactiafnertherefore xmms i suppose is better.02:39
lsuactiafnerMadpilot (:02:39
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Zodiacoh one more... what is the windows font codec?02:39
lsuactiafnerumm02:39
lsuactiafnergoto freshmeat.net02:39
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lsuactiafnerthen browse entertainment and media02:40
IIIEarsmttsfont(s) - ???02:40
Zodiacthat could be it02:40
lsuactiafnerand sort accoringint ot rating02:40
Zodiaclemme see....02:40
crimmy(msttcorefonts in multiverse?)02:40
lsuactiafnerumm02:40
lsuactiafnershit look @ time02:40
ShuddertrixZodiac: windows font codec? msttcorefonts or w32codecs, not sure what you mean02:40
IIIEarsthats it02:40
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lsuactiafnerMon May 30 02:40:42 SAST 200502:40
lsuactiafnerteh late02:40
Shuddertrixwindows fonts or windows codecs?02:40
Shuddertrix:p02:40
IIIEarshe-h02:41
spanglesontoastyou know the advanced beep package02:41
spanglesontoastnothing to do with beep media player02:41
Pop_pa_FrEaKthink I'll use XFCE4 on my secondary pc02:41
spanglesontoastbut I'm wondering have people made songs with it?02:41
dr_willisHmm.. I dont suppose anyone has seen a BLuetooth Tool for gnome?  KDE has that KBluetoothD - that i can use to access my cell phone.. but dosent gnome have a similer tool?02:42
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Zodiacoh both02:42
Zodiacha ha02:42
Zodiacthanx shudder02:42
Belial_crimmy: back02:43
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crimmyBelial_: any luck?02:44
Belial_crimmy: lsmod|grep and modprobe both just return a new prompt02:44
spanglesontoastcan I install rpms?02:44
Shuddertrixspanglesontoast: I made a cool script to make a nifty sounding song on my pc speaker, but it's a different speaker then most other i've heard..02:44
crimmyBelial_: I presume you did modprobe after the lsmod?02:44
Belial_crimmy: yes02:44
crimmyBelial_: ok, do the lsmod again02:44
spanglesontoastsend us it shudder02:44
spanglesontoast;)02:44
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Zodiacoh crap, what repository do I need for the windows codecs?02:44
Zodiacumm02:44
Belial_crimmy: ok02:44
Zodiacw32codecs02:44
crimmyZodiac: debian-marillat's testing02:44
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Shuddertrixspanglesontoast: I doubt it sounds great at all, i'll upload it to my space later02:45
ShuddertrixIf i can find where I saved it. My hard drive is a mess.02:45
IIIEarspastebin the script for beep02:45
spanglesontoasteventally I'm going to make a nice web site to help people with their woes on open source apps02:45
Zodiaccrimmy you wouldnt happen to have a link would ya?02:45
crimmyZodiac: deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main02:46
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Zodiacthanx bro02:47
spanglesontoastthere any gnome alarm programs02:47
lsuactiafnerShuddertrix : locate file02:48
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IIIEarsZodiac - disable that from apt or synaptic after you get it that way afterwards. - conflicts02:48
borkdoxany devs in here?02:48
toxicfum1which package caontains wlanctl-ng?02:48
crimmytoxicfum1: search using packages.ubuntu.com02:49
lsuactiafnerspanglesontoast : i do: sleep 8h ; mplayer something.mp302:49
lsuactiafnerhehe02:49
lsuactiafnerok night ppl02:49
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borkdoxnvidia-glx in breezy does not installs because of glu dependency, a newer version of glu(which has another name) is already installed, but it wants to install the older one....02:49
Pop_pa_FrEaKhey Shuddertrix how do i change the version number in FF ?02:49
crimmyborkdox: lots of issues in Breezy, see the topic.02:49
borkdoxcrimmy, it is workign perfect for me so far....02:50
crimmydoesn't that contradict what you just said? :)02:51
borkdoxcrimmy, I am talkign about one dependecy with one package02:51
crimmyborkdox: yes, but that's still a problem02:52
borkdoxcrimmy, I can still run the nv [opensource]  video driver02:52
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ShuddertrixPop_pa_FrEaK: about:config, change "general.useragent.vendorSub" to 1.0.402:52
borkdoxcrimmy, but is minimal... lol02:52
borkdoxcrimmy, I am juts trying to report the devs or something02:53
novaflarehmm why is it Xfce4 has a icon box settings menu? I thoguth icon box was things like desk top icons etc?02:53
spanglesontoastdoes sleep work02:53
crimmyborkdox: X.Org was a fair headache last week, but it should have been resolved.02:53
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Pop_pa_FrEaKwhere do I find that Shuddertrix ?02:55
ustin-crimmy, its still not working02:56
crimmyustin-: what isn't?02:56
ustin-crimmy my modem because it was looking for modprobe02:58
ustin-crimmy modprobe.conf02:59
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crimmyustin-: it shouldn't be looking for modprobe.conf03:00
icemanHELLO room ...03:00
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crimmyustin-: why does it need modprobe.conf?03:00
ShuddertrixPop_pa_FrEaK: read what i said, specifically the "about:config"03:00
Shuddertrixtype that in the address bar.03:01
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ustin-because i am installing the winmodem drivers and it is looking for it03:01
spanglesontoastI might just install counter strike source but I heard they were getting problems with it at the moment03:01
gbicanyone recommend a good backup manager?03:01
Shuddertrixspanglesontoast: I'm able to play it fine.. :P03:02
tiglionabbitwhat is the safest way to restart x without restarting the computer?03:02
gbicinit03:02
spanglesontoastkool03:02
Shuddertrixtiglionabbit: init for sure, ctrl+alt+backspace too03:02
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Belial_crimmy: ok back03:02
Belial_crimmy: lsmod shows a sk98lin, which i think is what i want03:03
ustin-crimmy :because i am installing the winmodem drivers and it is looking for it03:03
crimmyustin-: no, it should go into /etc/modprobe.d/nameofkernelmodule03:03
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crimmy(where nameofkernelmodule is substituted, of course)03:04
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ustin-crimmy :we installed them in there03:04
ustin-i mean I03:04
spanglesontoastI need to set ctrl alt del to do my system monitor03:04
spanglesontoast:D03:04
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crimmyBelial_: you don't have the ns83820 module loaded?03:05
Belial_crimmy: no03:05
crimmyBelial_: did you load it? :)03:05
Belial_crimmy: ...no03:05
Belial_crimmy: i went to my kernel source and did make menuconfig03:06
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gbichttp://www.frozentech.com/content/livecd.php03:06
Belial_crimmy: but it won't do it, says something like ncurses-devel needed03:06
gbiccool list03:06
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crimmyBelial_: ok, I'm not sure why you told me you have an ns83820-based nic...03:06
Belial_crimmy: i don't?03:07
crimmyBelial_: the eg1032?03:07
Belial_crimmy: yeah03:07
crimmyunless things have changed drastically, that's an 83820-based card03:08
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geetergodshould i be able to install programs using apt-get?03:09
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crimmygeetergod: yes03:09
tiglionabbityep03:09
Belial_not sure what the difference is but ok, some old thread on a forum somewhere said Natsemi 8382003:09
Belial_anyway03:09
Belial_so what do i do03:10
geetergodhm, whats that CD burner? Kp3 or is it Pk3?03:10
crimmygeetergod: k3b03:10
geetergodah03:10
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crimmyBelial_: modprobe ns8382003:10
ustin-crimmy : I installed them in there03:10
geetergodso would i type sudo apt-get install K3b to get it?03:10
crimmyustin-: installed what?03:10
crimmygeetergod: yes03:10
Belial_crimmy: i already did that03:10
crimmyBelial_: erm, wait. You already did that, but it's not loaded?03:11
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crimmyI'm getting conflicting answers here.03:11
Davey|Ubuntuis there any way to fix a badly flashed drive in *nix?03:11
geetergodReading package lists... Done03:11
geetergodBuilding dependency tree... Done03:11
geetergodE: Couldn't find package K3b03:11
geetergodwhy does it say that then?03:11
crimmygeetergod: case-sensitive.03:11
Davey|Ubuntufrom a floppy disk? :D03:11
crimmyit's k3b, not K3b03:11
tiglionabbitgeetergod: all packages are in lower case03:11
geetergodoh03:11
Belial_crimmy: i did modprobe ns83820 and it spat out another prompt line, and i did lsmod and ns83820 does not appear on the list03:11
geetergodim new sorry03:11
tiglionabbitit's alright03:12
Belial_crimmy: sk98lin DOES which i am lead to believe is the correct driver03:12
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danko123456so, I hear that the reason hoary's X is broken is that you did not move over the fonts, is taht right?03:12
crimmyBelial_: there were no errors when you modprobe'd ns83820?03:12
Belial_none03:12
crimmyBelial_: it silently failed?03:12
crimmythat's a huge bug.03:12
Belial_crimmy: i dont' know what that means03:13
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crimmyBelial_: paste your lsmod onto pastebin03:13
Belial_crimmy: i don't know how to do that03:13
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Belial_crimmy: or why it would help03:13
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RHySwhy?03:13
danko123456you type in lsmod03:13
danko123456in a terminal03:13
Belial_hey danko03:13
danko123456then you copy the output, and paste it to http://pastebin.com ...hi, you are in good hadns:)03:14
Dr_MelectausRHyS, /me shrugs shoulders03:14
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Belial_i can't get to pastebin.com if my NIC isn't working...03:14
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tiglionabbithow are you talking to us03:14
danko123456ok, well, type it all out:)03:14
Belial_on my windows hd03:14
KrisWoodhello everyone, I've got some questions for you all03:14
Belial_i'll have to write it down03:14
danko123456oh, yeah, you dont even have 2 comps, right?03:14
Belial_right03:15
danko123456crimmy: ?03:15
KrisWoodDoes anyone here know how to mount my secondary hard drives at boot up?03:15
crimmyBelial_: save it to a text file, put it on a floppy diskette03:15
Belial_yeah03:15
crimmyKrisWood: place the partitions in /etc/fstab03:15
danko123456KrisWood: sure, man mount sure does...03:15
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danko123456or man fstab03:15
Belial_old school03:15
Pop_pa_FrEaKhey danko I got ububtu in my second pc03:15
Belial_i'll do that brb03:15
Pop_pa_FrEaKubuntu*03:15
danko123456Pop_pa_FrEaK: sounds great, how?03:15
KrisWoodI tried that but can't get the right syntax figured out for the fstab03:15
crimmyBelial_: make sure you load ns8382003:15
crimmygah.03:15
tiglionabbitkriswood: I'll help you03:15
KrisWoodthanks tiglionrabbit03:16
Pop_pa_FrEaKturned pnp on03:16
danko123456KrisWood: do a fdisk -l /dev/hdb if hdb is your second hard drive, and use sudo03:16
tiglionabbitwhat is the device?03:16
tiglionabbitand the type of partition you have?03:16
KrisWoodI don't want to reformat it, dankol, I want to connect to my old hard drive and get data off it03:16
KrisWoodit's an ide hard drive, had previously been FC303:17
danko123456fdisk -l lists partitions:)03:17
KrisWoodoh ok03:17
KrisWoodsorry my mistake heh03:17
KrisWoodthought you were trying to be mean and make me erase my drive :p03:17
RHyShmm.. this makes me remember how happy i am with my 9 month old XP install03:17
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KrisWoodhdb1 and hdb2 are the FC filesystems03:19
tiglionabbitso anyway, the first line should be something like /dev/hda1, where your hard drives are hda hdb hdc etc, and their partitions are 1 2 3 etc like that.  Then is the mount point, which is where in your filesystem you want it to appear.  People usually use /mnt.03:19
KrisWoodyeah03:19
tiglionabbitokay, so the first thing you want to write is /dev/hdb103:19
KrisWoodin fstab?03:19
tiglionabbityes03:19
danko123456FC filesystem?03:19
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danko123456never heard of it...until now:)03:20
Pop_pa_FrEaKme either03:20
tiglionabbitthen tab over to the mount point and give it a place to mount it.  You can make some folders under /mnt to attach them to, if you have several03:20
KrisWoodFedora Core :-p03:20
Anubissome wmv files there is no sound03:20
tiglionabbitanubis: got the win32codecs?  Got esd configured right?03:20
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danko123456KrisWood: Im a new linux user, as that shows:)03:20
Anubisesd configured right?03:21
IIIEars"Fedora Core" 90 min install gigs of unneeded apps and still it doesn't work on boot up.03:21
AnubisI have sound03:21
KrisWoodI've been using linux for years just new to mounting extra drives hehe03:21
danko123456IIIEars: sure it does, sometimes.03:21
JormundgandYou CAN customise what Fedora installs, you know.03:21
Anubisand not all wmvs03:21
Anubissome03:21
tiglionabbitkriswood: are you editing the file now, /etc/fstab, using sudo?03:21
KrisWoodFedora is pretty painless on the install but some things just don't seem to work03:22
KrisWoodyeah, I did sudo gedit /etc/fstab03:22
JormundgandLike Samba.03:22
KrisWoodsamba works great on fedora03:22
KrisWoodI can't get it to work on ubuntu03:22
JormundgandAnd yes, Ubuntu needs to take a lot of lessons from Fedora with regards to the installation.03:22
tiglionabbitokay good.  So you started your line with the device, and you give it a mount point.  Next you need to put the partition type03:22
KrisWoodyup03:22
tiglionabbitwhat type of filesystem is on /dev/hdb1 ?03:22
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KrisWoodhow do I tell? I assume it's the default for whatever fedora uses03:23
tiglionabbitfedora probably uses ext303:23
danko123456fdisk -l again, it will tell yuo...03:23
danko123456sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb03:24
KrisWoodok now what options?03:24
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tiglionabbityou know, kriswood, a really easy way to tell all this info is to just mount it once, and then say mount.  It will list all your filesystem information03:24
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danko123456it will tell him with that above, too:)03:24
KrisWood:p03:24
tiglionabbitso, say `sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt` and then `mount`03:24
tiglionabbitum, without the ticks03:25
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tiglionabbitdanko: thing is, I tried that command and it didn't tell me03:25
Pop_pa_FrEaKman gnome is really slow on my 933 mHz pc03:25
Pop_pa_FrEaKwill have to put XFCE4 in it03:25
tiglionabbitoh, I need to use sudo03:25
danko123456http://pastebin.com/29197803:26
KrisWood/dev/hdb1 on /mnt type ext2 (rw)03:26
tiglionabbitbtw kriswood: XFCE4 contains a gui for this task03:26
tiglionabbitokay, then you want to type ext2 there.  easy as pie03:26
KrisWoodXFCE4?03:26
sysrqKrisWood: try mounting it as ext303:26
tiglionabbitit's a window manager you can install from synaptic03:26
danko123456yeah, its an alternative window manager03:26
sysrqjust for the heck of it03:26
tiglionabbitsysrq: is that advisable?03:26
sysrqyes03:26
KrisWoodneat03:26
tiglionabbitwhy?03:26
Pop_pa_FrEaKKrisWood, its another desktop but less resources are used03:26
KrisWoodgotcha03:27
tiglionabbityep, tiny desktop.  The mouse03:27
capiI'm using this command to try and mount samba files from another computer... `capi is on a distinguished road03:27
capi03:27
capiDefault Re: Samba Mount Point03:27
capiQuote:03:27
capiOriginally Posted by clb13703:27
capiHi Capi,03:27
capiPlease read the info in this link03:27
coastGNUmako: ping03:27
capihttp://www.ubuntuguide.org/#windows03:27
sysrqthe only difference is a .journal in the root of the partition, you can mount ext3 as ext2 which is what im thinking mount might have defaulted to03:27
capithen decide which way you want to do it and follow the guide03:27
capigood luck03:27
capiclinton03:27
KrisWoodI'm most familiar with kde but right now I'm using gnome because it's easier for my wife03:27
capiI saw that, maybe I wasn't clear on my question. The guide assumes its on your local computer, what would be the equivelent for something on a non-loca computer.03:27
capiFor example I was trying smbmount and adding the ip. Second I'm stil confused as to what mount point lines up to. It seems to be the location of the file off of the harddrive. So if I want to know what exactly I need to use for mount point. Do I use something like `C:/Folder/', or is that translated into `/dev/hda1/Folder' or something? How do I figure that out. Currently the command I'm using looks similar to this...03:27
danko123456capi, please use pastebin.com03:27
capi`03:27
capismbmount sambafs //file/folder  username=SAMBAun,password=SAMBApw,ip=192.168.1.2' It says it can't find the mount point, //file/folder is the equivelent of C:/file/folder on my compter?03:27
capisorry, didn't know I copied all of that.03:27
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tiglionabbitoh, thank you for that link, capi03:27
tiglionabbitexplains it pretty well03:27
tiglionabbitexcept he's trying to mount an ext2 one03:28
danko123456was that president clinton, Capi??03:28
KrisWoodok nex t step, options03:28
tiglionabbitanyway, for options just put defaults, and put 0s for the last two columns03:28
sysrqtiglionabbit: mount thinks it was ext2, that does not automaticly means it's ext203:28
KrisWoodok that's what I've already got03:28
sysrqespecially since it came from FC which uses ext303:29
tiglionabbitokay, tell him to change it to ext303:29
sysrqif it isn't ext3 it just won't mount, it's not like it will kill the disk03:29
KrisWoodit did mount with ext3 before03:29
danko123456lets see this xfce4 finally...03:29
KrisWoodI just didn't know what to put for options03:29
tiglionabbitokay, then make it ext303:29
tiglionabbitdefaults03:30
KrisWoodkk03:30
KrisWoodso next time I boot it should mount automaticly?03:30
tiglionabbityep03:30
sysrqKrisWood: sudo mount -a03:30
KrisWoodkk03:30
sysrqthat will mount everything in fstab that isn't already mounted03:31
KrisWoodmount: mount point /mount/hdb1 does not exist03:31
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KrisWood:-/03:31
sysrqKrisWood: why /mount/ instead of /mnt ?03:31
tiglionabbitkriswood: the mount point is just a folder.  You can choose any empty folder for it03:31
sysrqalso just mkdir it03:31
danko123456 I guess its not bad...looks ok...03:31
KrisWoodoh yeah03:31
KrisWoodduh03:31
KrisWoodmy bad03:31
danko123456looks like kde a little...xfce4 does...03:31
danko123456the icons, anyhow.03:31
tiglionabbitdanko: it should use the same default icons, I believe03:32
tiglionabbitthey share icon sets03:32
KrisWoodcreating the dir now03:32
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Davey|Ubuntuhow do I make Ubuntu recognise newly plugged in USB hardware? in this case a USB Floppy drive?03:32
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tiglionabbitdavey: plug it in03:32
tiglionabbitit works real fast and nice03:32
tiglionabbitI plugged in my playstation controller03:32
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Davey|Ubuntuoh, thats it? :D03:32
tiglionabbityus.  hotplug03:33
Quest-MasterDavey|Ubuntu: Yeah, it should work automatically03:33
ShuddertrixDavey|Ubuntu: Plug it in, if it doesn't work, I work think that running hotplug would fix it up03:33
gbicshould auto03:33
gbicin /media I believe03:33
Pop_pa_FrEaKdanko123456, do you like it ?03:33
Davey|Ubuntuhmm, where will I see it?03:33
Quest-MasterDavey|Ubuntu: That's why Project Utopia rocks ;d03:33
capiMy question was taht I"m using this command...` smbmount sambafs //dev/hda1/Shared/Files username=SAMBAun,password=SAMBApw,ip=192.168.1.2 ' to and try to mount samba files on another computer, //dev/hda1/Shared/Files is the equiv. of C:/Shared/Files on Windows. smbmount can't find the mount point, and I'm wondering how I figure out the correct syntax of what I need to enter.03:33
Quest-MasterDavey|Ubuntu: Probably somewhere under /media03:33
gbicI think its /media/DEVICE03:33
tiglionabbitdavey: you can say lsusb to check which devices it detects03:33
Davey|UbuntuProject Utopia?03:33
nali0thdanko123456 this is as close to me havin a windows box as you'll see me03:33
Davey|UbuntuQuest-Master: nope, not there03:33
gbicdavey03:33
gbictail /var/log/messages03:34
Quest-MasterDavey|Ubuntu: Project Utopia is the effort for all USB-like devices to automount03:34
gbicsee if there is any info on your usb03:34
KrisWoodok gonna reboot and test this brb03:34
ShuddertrixDidn't know about lsusb.03:34
Davey|Ubuntuyeah, it found it03:34
tiglionabbityup, there's lots of ls commands.  lspci, lsmod03:34
Davey|UbuntuI just don't know how to get to it :/03:34
gbichm03:34
Shuddertrix"Prototype product Vendor ID Smart Joy PSX, PS-PC Smart JoyPad"03:34
gbicmaybe /mnt?03:34
Davey|UbuntuI think I see it at /dev/fd/303:35
Quest-MasterDavey|Ubuntu: Are you on Warty?03:35
gbictry mount, perhaps it auto mounted it03:35
Davey|UbuntuQuest-Master: no03:35
Shuddertrixtiglionabbit: I knew those, just didn't know about the usb one ;)03:35
concept10what is he trying to mount?03:35
tiglionabbitlshw, lspnp, lsof, lshal03:35
Quest-MasterDavey|Ubuntu: Odd, try mount03:35
Davey|Ubuntuoh, I need a floppy in, right? :)03:35
KrisWoodgrrr wife is playing everquest she'll kill me if I reboot hehe03:35
Shuddertrixthose too..03:35
tiglionabbityou have to use all those ls commands as sudo though03:35
KrisWoodok /mnt/hdb1 is empty :-/03:35
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capianyone?03:36
Shuddertrixtiglionabbit: They all work fine for me as my regular user.03:36
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Davey|Ubuntuhah! yes, that was it :)03:36
danko123456yeah, its not bad, thanks...03:36
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tiglionabbitoh, just lshw then03:36
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cainehow do i get permission to write to certain folders03:36
caineExtraction not performed03:36
caineYou don't have the right permissions to extract archives in the folder "/usr/bin/X11"03:36
cainehow do i stop that from happening03:36
Shuddertrixyeah, just lshw03:36
Quest-MasterDavey|Ubuntu: rofl :D03:36
danko123456use sudo with the command you are using, caine./03:36
lalowhat's the fancy X lock thingie in hoary?   (I'm upgrading from warty but I didn't get that one for some reason)03:36
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caineim not in terminal03:36
KrisWoodok redid it with ext2 and now it's not empty03:36
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caineim trying to extract a file03:37
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danko123456so, this xfce is better for memory consumption, and that?03:37
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danko123456spooky, we are glad you are back.03:37
tiglionabbitcaine: try extracting it to your home directory03:37
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[Spooky] ah sorry :/03:37
Quest-Masterlol03:37
danko123456caine, or use sudo when extracting, altho I dont see why extract into that folder:)03:37
danko123456:)^03:37
ShuddertrixEverything you wanted to know about my system and more.. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/291982 ;)03:38
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tjsanyone familiar with using debconf in packages?03:39
KrisWoodwoot all my old stuff is back03:39
tiglionabbitshuddertrix: lshw?03:39
KrisWoodthanks guys :)03:39
tiglionabbityou're welcome.03:39
danko123456nice, Shuddertrix, nice command/03:39
danko123456welcome:)03:39
KrisWoodnext question, my windows computers cannot see my ubuntu box on the network03:39
KrisWoodbut ubuntu sees them03:39
danko123456hehe...tell them they are stupid, and make them ubuntu...:-p03:39
tiglionabbityou probably need to start sharing something03:39
KrisWoodhmmm03:40
lalodanko123456: much better; I have been using it for months, but I eventually got annoyed by the simple-mindedness of the panel and started gradually moving back to gnome03:40
KrisWoodgood point03:40
danko123456weklll, they should be able to ping it if they have teh ssame gateway.03:40
Pop_pa_FrEaKlol dank03:40
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tjsIve got a debian/config and a debian/base.templates file, in my rules file I call dh_installdebconf. It creates postrm.debhelper, but not package.config or package.templates03:40
danko123456lalo: better for mem management, that is what you are replying to, right?03:40
tjsany ideas?03:40
lalodanko123456: yes03:40
danko123456thanks.03:40
danko123456Ill try that, I guess, I have some time.03:40
EnkiduWhat is the command to stop gnome from the prompt03:40
danko123456I have to get a computer working...03:40
KrisWooddoes gnome have a samba control panel like kde does?03:40
Davey|Ubuntuoh boy, I just got 6 disks from my gay roomie, I hope I don't find any pr0n on them :(03:41
danko123456and its a little older, and gnome used to bog it down too much.03:41
lalodanko123456: for ex (about the panel), it's rather annoying how much work it is to create a launcher for something that you already have in the menu03:41
JormundgandKrisWood: Make sure you're on the same workgroup - gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf and check the workgroup setting. GNOME support for Samba is limited.03:41
danko123456lalo: aha...yeah...I guess.03:41
ShuddertrixDavey|Ubuntu: psst.. don't look at /media/cdrom0/install/iso/behere/pr0n03:41
danko123456Ill see.03:41
danko123456Its for a girl, anyhow, I dont know, we'll see.03:41
JormundgandKrisWood: Also install samba and smbfs if you haven't already.03:41
KrisWooddamn, how do I install kde on this thing.. lol jk03:42
danko123456Il install warty, then upgrade.03:42
lalodanko123456: on the other hand it took me a few months to get annoyed at it, so it's probably good enough :-)03:42
danko123456Im gonna do it now.03:42
KrisWoodyeah smb is running just fine03:42
ShuddertrixKrisWood: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop03:42
novaflarelol nice shuddertrix heres my system heh http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/29198303:42
KrisWoodand the windows puters see it by browsing to the ip03:42
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tiglionabbitdanko: whouldn't it be a lot easier to install hoary first?03:42
KrisWoodShuddertrix, I was joking but thanks, it's good to know :)03:42
danko123456I dont kno...probably I should...I would have to burn it first, and test if it works...03:42
ustin-where do the drivers go in ubuntu, can anyone help me?03:42
laloso again :-P does anyone know what's the fancy X lock thingie in hoary?   (I'm upgrading from warty but I didn't get that one for some reason)03:43
KrisWoodthe windows computers see its shares by browsing to \\192.168.15.4 but not when browsing to its name03:43
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tiglionabbitdanko: it should work.  Worked for me.  Didn't work for any of my friends who tried it theirself though, but some of em were using very old hardware03:43
Zodiachello all03:43
laloI upgraded xscreensaver and it looks a bit better, but it's not the same thing my colleague has on his hoary03:43
danko123456tiglionabbit: no, I mean, if the download was buggy, and that...03:43
Davey|UbuntuARGH I FOUND SOME :(03:43
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tiglionabbitlalo: why not just change the screensaver then?03:44
Davey|Ubuntuwheres my wife when I need her? :(03:44
ShuddertrixDavey|Ubuntu: GET EYE WASH!03:44
KrisWoodI think windows is just being stupid as usual03:44
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danko123456Davey|Ubuntu: c'mon now, we all know you enjoy gay porn...03:44
ShuddertrixIt's the only way to remove it from your mind..03:44
lalotiglionabbit: I'm not talking about the screensaver itself, but the "unlock" dialog03:44
tiglionabbitso?03:44
ustin-where do the drivers go in ubuntu, can anyone help me?03:45
tiglionabbitustin: drivers?  what drivers?03:45
danko123456ustin-: I dont think there is a place...03:45
tiglionabbitustin- what are you trying to do?03:45
cccis gstreamer-lame neccessary for ripping cds to mp3?03:46
tiglionabbitpretty much yes, you need a lame mp3 encoder03:46
ccci can't even get it to work03:46
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tiglionabbitccc: dunno which part you're on, but um, I've never ripped a CD anyway =P03:47
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KrisWoodspeaking of sound and such, has anyone gotten 6ch surround on an AC97 card to work in ubuntu?03:47
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ustin-trying to install the linmodemdrivers from linmodem.org.03:47
cccok. thanks. couldn't find anything but rpms of gstreamer-lame which i converted, but it won't work for some reason.03:47
ustin-They compiled fine but it dont know where to put them because it can't find modprobe.com03:47
tiglionabbitlinmodem?03:48
ustin-Yeah03:48
ccctiglionabbit: i wanna rip them so i can throw away (ok, sell) my cds, they're just a waste of space. =)03:48
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danko123456ccc: there really arent any...03:48
danko123456in apt...03:48
cccdanko123456: that sucks :\03:48
tiglionabbitaren't any what?03:48
KrisWoodI'll take the lack of reply as a no heh03:49
cccmp3 encoders03:49
tiglionabbitwhoa cool, when you put in a CD it just starts playing.03:49
danko123456no,, there is not package called gstreamer-lame...03:49
danko123456heh.just a sec.03:49
tiglionabbit=p what's playing it?03:49
danko123456dbernar1@veliki:~ $ sudo apt-cache search gstreamer0.8-lame ... gstreamer0.8-lame - GStreamer lame plugins03:49
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ustin-tiglionabbit : Yeah, linmodem03:50
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pfpthere's a gstreamer0.8-lame but you have to dpkg -i it03:50
cccpfp: where?03:50
pfpi think ubuntuguide.org ha the url03:51
pfphas03:51
tiglionabbitum, omg guys, what program /is/ playing this music?  heheh03:51
ustin-tiglionabbit : its a winmodem, but im trying to use linmodem drivers.03:51
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danko123456my sources.list http://pastebin.com/29199703:51
Dr_Melectaushttp://www.RaceWarz.net/r.php?id=228303:51
Dr_Melectausoh crap03:51
ccctiglionabbit: hehe yeah i just stumbled upon that program myself =) weird one03:51
transgressheh i didn't even put a modem in this computer when i built it...03:51
danko123456ccc: see my two last posts....03:51
Dr_Melectausdidnt mean to paste that03:52
KrisWoodtiglionabbit, it's probably that one that comes with ubuntu.. totem or something like that?03:52
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transgressDr_Melectaus: you so meant to paste that03:52
cccdanko123456: thanks m803:52
tiglionabbitI see no graphical interface here, and nothing spawned.  It just started playing as soon as I put in the CD03:52
Dr_Melectausi didnt03:52
Dr_Melectausid get done for spam03:52
KrisWoodwierd03:52
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tiglionabbitholy shit guys how do I stop it?03:53
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KrisWooddo a ps at the command line03:53
Dr_Melectaustransgress, meant to paste a link to a pic for a freind in #lub03:53
ccctiglionabbit: it's "cd player for gnome"03:53
KrisWoodyou should see the process for it03:53
tiglionabbitbut I'm in kde!03:53
nali0thtiglionabbit call an exorcist03:53
KrisWoodthen kill it's pid03:53
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ccctiglionabbit: oh03:53
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tiglionabbitoooooh03:53
tiglionabbitI see what happened03:53
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KrisWoodtiglionabbit, at the command line type ps03:54
tiglionabbitI have a gnome session open on another virtual terminal03:54
tiglionabbitrofl03:54
KrisWoodoooh ok03:54
KrisWoodnm that'd do it03:54
tiglionabbitand there it is, open and playing03:54
tiglionabbitthat's hilarious03:54
KrisWoodhehe03:54
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KrisWoodlol yeah, let's see windows do THAT! mwahahahahahaaa03:54
tiglionabbitsorry for wigging out there03:54
KrisWoodquite alright03:54
SLicE_hey guys, do alot of you use synaptic?03:55
nali0thSLicE_ yes i do use synaptic03:55
tiglionabbityeah, I love new login and xnest.  Great for showing off to those poor windows users who have to use the same window manager all the time03:55
transgressi use it some in ubuntu... use kpackage in kubuntu... but i usually go with apt-get03:55
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SLicE_nali0th, do you get the error when you reload about W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net stable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B90703:55
SLicE_W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net unstable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B90703:55
SLicE_W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net testing Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B90703:55
tiglionabbitthere's kynaptic..03:55
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tiglionabbitslice_: it means you added some repositories that don't have authentication03:56
SLicE_ah, but its safe?03:56
tiglionabbitit's just telling you to use em at your own risk03:56
SLicE_ok....not so safe03:56
tiglionabbitwell, it's as safe as your trust for the source.03:56
cthulfuegoSLicE_: Insofar as the mplayer repos are safe, sure03:56
danko123456well, you could use gpg, and apt-key to get them working, but its not easy...03:56
danko123456not even taht safe, they put that in place for a reason...03:57
SLicE_cool thanks guys, better ask than just keep clicking ok all the time03:57
danko123456mostly for missioncritical/important systems...03:57
danko123456you only need testing, as well.03:57
danko123456someone once said, like, crimsun, perhaps.03:57
tiglionabbitslice_: well you always wanna be careful with "testing" and "unstable" sources, too03:58
KrisWoodwoot I love the ubuntu guide03:58
SLicE_they are the ones you get new kernels from right?03:58
KrisWoodwindows sees it now :)03:58
[Sp00ky] anyone use Skype in here ?03:58
nali0thSLicE_ that msg is harmless, it means that your apt doesnt trust the repo03:58
danko123456how do you do a server install, is it at that first boot screen where it says press f1 for help, enter to boot, I type in server, and hit enter?03:59
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SLicE_One last question, when you reload synaptic is it better to do a default upgrade or a smart upgrade?03:59
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tiglionabbitso anyway, ccc still here?  What program were you using, KAudioCreator?04:00
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ccctiglionabbit: no, tried with sound juicer and k3b04:00
tiglionabbitslice: you should be able to get kernels from the main repository.  At least, the generic i686, k7, etc kernels04:00
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danko123456tiglionabbit: not really recommended that you take a kernel from another distro's repo...but, maybe...04:01
SLicE_lol04:01
SLicE_I trust you on that....I meant 2.6.1104:02
danko123456SLicE_: that was meant for you, Im just out of it...04:02
danko123456SLicE_: and, I dont know what to tell you about smart vs default.04:02
SLicE_danko123456, I didn't know if there was a big diff04:02
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pfpccc: asunder is nice for ripping, though you have to compile it04:02
tiglionabbitccc: ah.  Well, I just started KAudioCreator ripping.  We'll see how it goes, then I'll try those others04:03
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tiglionabbitit's ripping04:03
tiglionabbitsure takes a while..04:03
ccci think i'm making progress here as well04:03
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nali0thSLicE_ i always use smart upgrade04:03
[Sp00ky] i guess i have a common question hehe install Mplayer in Ubuntu ?? is there a guide somewhere ?04:04
SLicE_nali0th, thats what I've been doing04:04
danko123456I use apt-get:) I dunno, lately I havent used synaptic that much...well, for searching sometimes...if I dont know what I am loooking for...04:04
tiglionabbitoh danko: I meant an ubuntu repository04:04
danko123456[Sp00ky] : yes, at www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats if Im not wrong.04:04
nali0thbrb04:05
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Davey|Ubuntuhmm, is there any way to... unflash a drives "bios" ?04:05
danko123456tiglionabbit: ya, I know, I made a mistake for the name...04:05
Davey|Ubuntu(what the heck is that called?)04:05
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tiglionabbitbios: Basic Input Output System04:05
[Sp00ky] danko123456: thanks04:05
tiglionabbitthe bios is the thing that loads first when you start up your computer04:05
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danko123456welcome, point #904:06
tiglionabbityour hardware manufacturer may release an upgrade to the firmware.  This would mean you have to "flash your bios" to upgrade it04:06
danko123456bah...04:06
SLicE_Davey|Ubuntu, If you upgraded bios I don't think you can go back unless you reflash.....don't quote me, I only go up when I flash my bios04:07
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Davey|UbuntuSLicE_: not the bios04:08
Davey|UbuntuI'm talking about a CD-RW/DVD's firmware04:08
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Davey|UbuntuI was flashing it when the app failed04:08
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Davey|Ubuntunow the machine won't boot right :/04:08
SLicE_oh04:08
SLicE_damn04:08
danko123456I am doing the server install, it is pretty cool:) there are two possible options, custom, and custom-expert, and after having been asked several questions I have no clue on how to answer, I rebooted, and am gonna try custom:)04:10
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abbot45would someone be able to help me get my sound working again?  it was working fine.  then one day when i re-booted my computer i get "Invalid Card Number" when it tries to start alsa.04:10
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cody_Hey04:11
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Astrakhi ppl04:11
Lafitte-hi Astrak04:11
Astrakgood night04:12
ccci've installed gstreamer-lame but still can't rip, all the programs i've tried says there is no lame encoding (k3b, grip, sound-juicer)04:12
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cccthat's weird04:12
Astrakis anyone having freezing affaires with ubuntu and ati xorg driver?04:12
pfpccc: have you installed lame too04:12
nali0thccc you need to install liblame and lame04:12
Shuddertrixdanko123456: a similar problem happened with my cd-rw drive, but i got it booting somehow and remember it saying it could burn a CD-R at 649x and a CD-RW at 390x, reading at 1190x04:12
QMarioIs it safe to install packages that are not authenticated?04:12
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Lafitte-i have question for any Ubuntu guru here   abou how to add the gui for network cards and wireless in04:12
nali0thQMario that is entirely up to you04:13
cthulfuegoQMario: Depends on how paranoid you are04:13
Shuddertrixerr, was meant for Davey|Ubuntu04:13
AstrakLafitte->> which gui?04:13
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nali0thQMario all it means is that the packager doesnt have a verified gpg key04:13
QMarioI am asking for your opinions?04:13
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QMarioOh, okay!!:-D04:13
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Lafitte-Astrak,  the network card controller util    next to clock04:13
cthulfuegoQMario: yes, you are.04:13
danko123456QMario: the authentication is there for a reason, but, chances are you are fine...04:13
Astrakyou mean the net tool applet?04:13
Astrakwht do you wanna configure it for?04:14
cthulfuegoLafitte-: Install the network applet, then right click on the panel and select 'Add to panel' to add it.04:14
Lafitte-cthulfuego,  what is the package name  ?04:14
cthulfuegoLafitte-: Note, if you're left-handed you may need to left-click the panel.04:14
Lafitte-Astrak,   the little windows  shows connection04:14
Astraki thought you were looking for something wifi-radar like04:14
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Lafitte-rofl04:14
cccpfp, nali0th: yes, i've got gstreamer-lame, lame and liblame004:14
cthulfuego!find network-applet04:14
cccweird04:15
pfpit is04:15
cody_Hey, Quick question.. Hopefully someone out there can help me.. I try to install the "mboxcheck-applet" for my panel (the thing that lets me know when I have new emails on my server, and when I try to add it to the panel, I get this message.. "The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOMR_MboxCheck".04:15
nali0thwhile the cat's away, the mice will play04:15
cody_Any idea how I could get this working?04:15
Lafitte-cthulfuego,  you do understand im not in Ubuntu  i use Ubuntu other systems and like the util04:15
Astrakjust add to the panel the network monitor applet then04:15
cthulfuegoLafitte-: Then you need to probably ask on the appropriate channel.04:15
cody_Was that directed to me, Astrak?04:15
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cody_Oh, Obviously not, Heh04:16
ubotuUbuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'network-applet' returned no results.04:16
Astrakthere's a lot of applets like that available04:16
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Lafitte-cthulfuego,  i use Ubuntu also    and its a Sun program they installed04:16
danko123456dbernar1@veliki:~ $ sudo apt-cache search mboxcheck-applet ... Password: ... mboxcheck-applet - A GNOME2 applet to check your mboxes04:16
Lafitte-cthulfuego,  i was looking to add it to my Sarge install as well as my Ubuntu which has it already04:16
Astraknope cody_  , sorry04:16
cthulfuegoLafitte-: I can't magically guess that other distro you use or what packages on that distro would be called.04:16
cody_That is the one I am trying, Danko.04:17
pfpccc: do you have the binary in /usr/bin/lame, does it run?04:17
Lafitte-cthulfuego,  ok  thanks     was hopeing someone mught have any idea is all04:17
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cthulfuegoLafitte-: Maybe try 'netapplet'04:17
cody_Does anyone know of any other email notification programs for the panel?04:17
Lafitte-cthulfuego,   thanks :)04:18
danko123456cody, yes, gaim:)04:18
AstrakLafitte->>  try googling "net monitor applet your_distro_name"04:18
Lafitte-cthulfuego,  BTW   Ubunbtu RULES !04:18
cthulfuegoLafitte-: Yes, the sarge package for the gnome network applet is 'netapplet'. See also 'apt-cache search network applet'04:18
cody_Heh.. That only checks my hotmail though, doesnt it?04:18
danko123456I dunno.04:18
danko123456It does mine:)04:18
cthulfuegoLafitte-: No, it doesn't. breezy is completely broken <heh>04:18
cody_I am looking for something that can run steady on my panel, Without having to have stupid instant messagers open04:18
Lafitte-hehe  yeah  i broke my system with breezy  hehehe04:18
danko123456right, I know, its not really a solution:)04:18
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Astrakthen... nobody knows about freezings with the new ati xorg driver??04:19
cody_I don't like having them running all the time, too many annoying people wanting to talk to me on there. Hah.04:19
danko123456Lafitte-: it works out it is some thing to do with fonts.04:19
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cccseems mp3 ripping works with goobox though. puzzling. :)04:19
cthulfuegodanko123456: Yesm, the newer packages have new package names and stuff has been moved around.04:19
pfpcody_: there's gnubiff but i recall it was a bit silly w/ courier imap04:20
danko123456yup,. I have a buddy that always uses the newer version.04:20
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danko123456I met him today wwhen I was in the store... so he topld me that.04:20
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danko123456His name is Peter, and he is the guy that installed my first linux onto my comptuer, and it was warty:)04:20
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danko123456nice, well, him too:)04:21
Lafitte-cthulfuego,  thats not it  BUT   very close and same thing  ty04:21
danko123456It is just that I havent:)04:21
cody_pfp: hmm, mabye i will try that. I had mboxcheck when I was using Fedora a few weeks ago, Just switched over to Unbutu recently and havent been able to get this mbox check to work.04:21
Astrakk ppl, gotta go04:21
danko123456bye04:22
Astrakcu guys04:22
cthulfuegoLafitte-: The specifically wifi one is probably not available for sarge; keep in mind it uses a different gnome version.04:22
tiglionabbitmm...     sleep...04:22
tiglionabbitI hope I had a positive impact on this channel04:23
danko123456:)04:23
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cthulfuegoyes, you removed many electrons.04:23
tiglionabbit(is it alright to call irc chat a 'channel' ? )04:23
pfpcody_: gnubiff was stupid in that it pop-upped any time the mail box's status would change (eg. i read a message)04:23
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cthulfuego(or added many holes)04:23
pfpnut just when new mail arrived04:23
Xenguy3/z04:23
cody_pfp: really? thats kinda messed up.. i will try it and see how it is, hopefully its not TOO annoying04:23
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cody_I just installed it, It's fairly customizable and lets you alter the popup settings and whatnot04:24
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tiglionabbitgood luck with all your ubuntu issues.  I burned myself a live/install CD so I'm gonna go around converting people04:24
danko123456thanks.04:25
ccctiglionabbit: channel, yes :)04:25
tiglionabbitgnite04:25
pfpcody_: yeah, i think there's a newer version now, and from what i understand it can depend on what dialect the imap server is talking aswell04:25
cody_pfp: awesome, thanks for your help04:26
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pfphmm, is it possible to add a panel button for _blanking_ the display?04:27
pfpvs. locking it04:28
VaderDarthhello04:28
VaderDarthi want unbunt04:28
VaderDarthubuntu04:28
cthulfuegopfp: Probably; make the button call xscreensaver with the correct parms04:28
nali0thVaderDarth www.ubuntulinux.org/download04:28
Johnnyfavis there a file sharing client that's safe for linux...like a kazaa?04:28
VaderDarthnot d/l04:28
cthulfuegoJohnnyfav: bittorrent04:28
VaderDarthi mean for a pda04:29
nali0thJohnnyfav what kind of safety are you looking for?04:29
VaderDarthquestion04:29
VaderDarthi have a motorola MPX20004:30
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VaderDarthwill it work under ubuntu??04:30
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danko123456yup04:30
VaderDarthcan i sync04:30
danko123456yup04:30
danko123456evertyhing04:30
VaderDarthmy contacts etc04:30
danko123456well, not everything...04:30
danko123456Im jj,04:30
VaderDarthwhat do u mean04:31
nali0thbrb04:31
VaderDarthi am about to installit04:31
danko123456I nmean I dunno04:31
cody_Thanks for your help people!04:31
VaderDarthwill it work with the mpx200, which is like pda04:31
Johnnyfavlike adware...more than anything04:31
SLicE_anyone here use 2.6.11 kernel?04:31
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Johnnyfavbittorrent...it asks for a meta file04:31
Johnnyfavwhat do I do04:31
pfpJohnnyfav: amule04:32
Johnnyfavamule04:32
Chicago60657what's the command to set permissions on a directory (not a file)?04:32
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VaderDarthchmod04:32
VaderDarthsry04:32
Chicago60657i know chmod...but chmod a+rw /mnt/win * did not work04:32
VaderDarthntfs?04:33
danko123456sudo04:33
danko123456plus, you cant write to ntfs.04:33
Chicago60657why does ubuntu fucking lock me out of my windoze partition?04:33
VaderDarthwhat is sudo04:33
Chicago60657it's msdos04:33
cccJohnnyfav: i recommend linuxdc++ or valknut (for dc)04:33
Chicago60657win 9804:33
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pfpChicago60657: chmod -R a+rw /mnt/foo  <- recursive04:33
VaderDarthi use to log in as root04:33
danko123456ok, Chicago60657are you trying to read that partition?04:33
danko123456mounted?04:33
rj`any idea how to enable .pl and .cgi on ubuntu hoary apache2?04:33
kevin06THis is not a Ubuntu question, but I am familiar here and think you might be able to help. I am looking for an Internet Connection with faster up and down speeds, but not as expensive as T1. What should I look for?04:33
pfpChicago60657: also, chek mount options for msdos (man mount)04:34
kevin06Sorry, faster than Cable.04:34
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VaderDarthi am on 10MBs04:34
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Chicago60657the fstab settings are fine04:34
VaderDarthup and 10 Mbs down04:34
danko123456ya, ya,...04:34
danko123456Chicago60657: mounted?04:34
novaflare10mb up and down?04:34
kevin06VaderDarth, Both?04:34
novaflaredamn04:34
danko123456:-/...04:34
cccVaderDarth: me too04:35
VaderDarthyes04:35
danko123456sceptical here,,,,04:35
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VaderDarthi get 12MBS04:35
VaderDarthdown04:35
VaderDarthabout 11UP04:35
kevin06VaderDarth, What kinda service?04:35
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Chicago60657yes...i can read it fine...just won't allow me to move files fo it04:35
pfpmount -t msdos -ouid=1000,gid=1000 might help04:35
danko123456plus he says his upload is faster than download, which is uncommon, unless he is using a server account...04:35
danko123456Chicago60657: try the -R04:35
VaderDarthwell04:35
cccVaderDarth: mine only goes as high as 10 :)04:36
VaderDarthi said up is 11MBPS measured04:36
QMarioIs there a program that I can download for Ubuntu that will allow me to edit .pdf files?04:36
Chicago60657what's the basic difference between setting permission for a directory versus a file?04:36
VaderDarthand down is 12MBs04:36
kevin06ccc, What kind of connection is that?04:36
danko123456a directory needs to execute to be able to open.04:36
technoid_what is the default fs that ubuntu uses?04:36
crimmyext304:36
danko123456so you cant cd foo if foo is not execute.04:36
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VaderDarthusing 10100 adapter04:36
VaderDarth10/1oo04:36
VaderDarthit is T1 or better04:37
VaderDarthit goes off the scale04:37
kevin06What is it called?04:37
novaflarewell t1 only goes 1500/150004:37
Chicago60657i can do everything under the sun as a user to my /mnt/win directory...except write...so i guess the solution is: Chicago60657: chmod -R a+rw /mnt/foo <- recursive  is that right??04:37
VaderDarthwhat do u mean called04:37
VaderDarthi tell u the speed04:37
technoid_crimmy: know of any problems using reiser with it?04:37
Chicago60657sorry for the cut n paste04:37
novaflarejust has a dump load more accual band width than cable wireless or dsl04:37
kevin06Well, Cable connections ranged near 4 megs...04:37
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danko12345610MBps is not what your connection is, to the best of my knowledge:0-P04:37
kevin06It is cable. T1 is faster...04:38
VaderDarthmate04:38
VaderDarthI am directly connected to a 1000MBs04:38
novaflarena guys some people are getting sickenly fast cable connections04:38
kevin06Ah.04:38
VaderDarththrough a 10MBs switch04:38
Chicago60657one more question please...how come i can't boot into gnome as root and do these permission issue that way?04:38
QMarioIs there a program that I can download for Ubuntu that will allow me to edit .pdf files?04:38
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kevin06Ubuntu disab;es root login.04:39
danko123456you would have to enable it, it is disabled by7 default, Chicago60657.04:39
sysrqkevin06: no it doesn't, it defaults to having no root password set04:39
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danko123456QMario: well, the essence of pdf files is that they are like pictures, I think, try gimp or something...04:39
pfpChicago60657: does ubuntu show _you_ as owner of the files under /mnt/win?04:39
kevin06sysrq, sorry then.04:39
sysrqChicago60657: you can't do it from a root shell, sudo -s?04:39
^thehatsrule^no it does disable the root login... doesnt it?04:39
VaderDarthi can d/l ubuntu in 1 min04:39
danko123456does, yeah...04:39
sysrqno04:40
^thehatsrule^mhmm04:40
Chicago60657well i can boot "recovery mode" which boots and brings me to a root prompt...but startx doesn't work and gdm just brings up the login screen...which of course, i can't log in as root.04:40
kevin06sysrq, Trying that on my computer prompted a message that Rott logins were disabled, and I did an standard install of hoary.04:40
danko123456you are very cool, but I dont believe you that there is a 10MB/s conenction for upload anywhere...04:40
danko123456Unless you are at a university, or something like that.04:40
sysrqkevin06: thats nice, all you have to do is set a root password and you can login just fine04:40
VaderDarthyes i am on the Janet04:40
kevin06Danko123456, It would be nice though, to have that upload.04:40
danko123456sysrq: there is also a checkbox to allow root login to gnome...04:40
VaderDarthJANET04:40
danko123456kevin06: well, usually ppl like more download:)04:41
ccckevin06: it's fibre. you can choose 100 mbit, but that's more expensive and has a 300 gb/month limit, which sucks. :( i think 10 mbit is about 30 euros a month here.04:41
danko123456Ill google^04:41
pfpi think logging in to gnome as root would cause more problems than solve them :)04:41
Chicago60657pfp no i'm not the owner of the /mnt/win or it's files...i just want root to chmod my userid with write permission to the windoze hard drive...that's all!04:41
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sysrqdanko123456: if you can use gnome via gdm as root is rather different from disabling/enabling root login04:41
VaderDarthhttp://www.mirror.ac.uk/04:41
VaderDarthis where i d/l isos04:41
Chicago60657look...i don't really give a fuck if i ruin the ubuntu installation...it's just a toy for now04:41
kevin06ccc, wow. Net connections are signifigantly cheaper there,04:42
VaderDarthit is at 1000GBs04:42
sysrqChicago60657: use the uid option for mount/fstab to map them to the use you want04:42
sysrqs/use/user/04:42
danko123456VaderDarth: http://www.ja.net/connect/general-tariffs.html ...04:42
pfpChicago60657: you cant change the ownership of windoze files that way, because FAT doesn't know about file owners04:42
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kevin06Alright, lemme ask this differently. What kinds of connections offer speeds above cable?04:42
Chicago60657oh...and a warning...i was playing a cd with .flac files on it...i had a small black marker smudge on the read side of the cd...when i got to the track with the ink blotch on it...it totally crashed ubuntu04:42
sysrqkevin06: that really isn't relating to ubuntu04:42
danko123456sysrq: wasnt he talking about the other, tho?04:42
QMarioIs there a better PDF viewer than xpdf available?04:43
kevin06danko123456, Yeah, but I do small time hosting...04:43
crimmyevince, QMario?04:43
Shuddertrixkevin06: the mind?04:43
mpmanyone using a digital voice recorder with ubuntu?  I'm looking for something that will be ideally in mp3 format already for uploading to the web04:43
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ccckevin06: dsl... adsl/vdsl04:43
pfpChicago60657: thats why you have to specify uig=chicago,gid=chicago on mount options (fstab), replacing chicago w/ your userid04:43
kevin06sysrq, Forgive me. If you would prefer me to take it off channel, I can do so...04:43
danko123456thanks, crimmy, another one for the collection:)04:43
VaderDarthi pay 25 per month04:43
sysrqChicago60657: it crashed ubuntu? I wasn't aware ubuntu was a program? perhaps it crashed X or caused a kernel lockup. When reporting such things you need to provide information usefull for debuging04:44
danko123456for that speed, no you dont.04:44
SLicE_anyone here use kernel 2.6.11 with ubuntu?04:44
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Chicago60657i just don't understand why it's such a big issue writing to the windoze drive, when other live cds let you do it justf fine04:44
VaderDarthwell it is not my house04:44
Shuddertrixkevin06: if you mean coaxial, then probably ethernet or fiber..04:44
danko123456well, I dont wanna argue this further, you know the fact, I know my opinion:)04:44
Chicago60657so i think it's an ubuntu issue04:44
VaderDarthI rent it04:44
cccVaderDarth: that's cheap. where?04:44
VaderDarth25 for 10Mb/s per month04:44
ahammondChicago60657: fat or ntfs?04:44
sysrqmpm: check out audacity, gnome-sound-recorder can save to vorbis, I'm not sure about mp304:44
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VaderDarthuk04:45
danko123456crimmy: remember that hard drive I was installing to the other day?? I am installing ubuntu now, and warty installed fine, then I change sources.list, and dist-upgrade. Now I am getting errors about hda being damaged, any pointers? maybe I should wait till it dfinishes to see what happens...04:45
cccok04:46
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sysrqChicago60657: probably because the liveCD runs as root, with ubuntu you are trying to write as a user when the drive probably is owned by root. Using the uid=youruserid mount option will make the drive owned by your user so you can write it. I have said this once and someone else has said this as well.04:46
Chicago60657sysrq yes it crashed x...which for all practical purposes...is what make ubuntu what it's trying to be...a user friendly OS...but don't take my word for it...take a little black magic marker...poke a small dot onto one of your music cds you don't need anymore...play it with the gnome program i can't remember the name of...some itunes knock off...what for your cdrom to find the flaw and have...04:46
Chicago60657...fun doing a hard reboot...works everytime...i did it about six times04:46
VaderDarthmy work has 100Mbs04:46
VaderDarththru JANET04:47
danko123456yeah, they could, but you as an individual...04:47
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ahammondChicago60657: next time, try ctrl-alt-backspace04:47
ahammondChicago60657: that will kill your X session (which will restart automatically)04:47
sysrqChicago60657: the alt-sysrq key combination is usefull for properly shutting down a locked system beyond ctrl-alt-backspace for killing X04:47
VaderDarthah they don't have ubuntu http://www.mirror.ac.uk/platform/linux/04:48
ccchere in sweden there are 1000 mbps connections too :D pretty hard to make use of all the bandwidth though...04:48
danko123456thanks for the tip, sysrq.04:48
Chicago60657no...it wouldn't let me....it just kept feeding me messages about buffer i/o error on sector blah blah04:48
hswaleswhat is the prog to check the settings for hardware04:48
cccso, waste of money. at least now04:48
sysrqChicago60657: what kept feeding you messages, where?04:48
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Chicago60657the command line when i opened a shell (torturously slowly) to kill the pid04:49
VaderDarthi admin a 150 cpu windows cluster04:49
danko123456kevin06 was not happy with our knowledge of internet conenctions.04:49
danko123456:)04:49
danko123456call his ISP...04:49
Chicago60657i'm telling you...it's easily replicated...one little black magic marker dot on the read side of a music cd is enough to bring ubuntu to a grinding halt...you won't be able to kill it even from a root shell04:50
sysrqChicago60657: ok, file a bug report then04:50
danko123456crimmy: could I somehow format the hard disk and then it removes the bad sectors from use?04:50
JormundgandChicago60657: And you put a black magic marker dot on the read side of a CD...why?04:50
VaderDarthuse windows media player?04:50
danko123456btw, it seems to be continuing fine.04:50
Pop_pa_FrEaKwill ubuntu always have mp3 support ?04:51
danko123456can you read the future?04:51
danko123456:-p04:51
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Pop_pa_FrEaK:p04:51
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Chicago60657look...i'm not trying to diss ubuntu...i've been messing around with debian or a couple years now...but when ubuntu was defeated by something that small, it amazed me...and no, i didn't do it on purpose...it was an accident...i was playing the cd to find the track i'd need to replace since i destroyed the hard drive copy of it04:52
danko123456anyone at all kno about hard disks, and some form of fixing them, should I run fsck?04:52
Pop_pa_FrEaKsome distros are dropping support for licensing reasons04:52
pfpccc: just out of curiosity, how much are they asking for 10M or 100M there?04:52
sysrqChicago60657: ... all I said is file a bug report04:52
Chicago60657all the other tracks played fine...when it got to track 11...ubuntu bit the dust04:52
Johnnyfavis there a program to run windows apps on linux?04:52
danko123456Chicago60657: well, it is very new... we all use it, tho:)04:52
Chicago60657i intend to04:52
VaderDarthwine04:52
ShuddertrixPop_pa_FrEaK: my mind tricks agree that in 2008 mp3 will be obsolete04:52
crimmydanko123456: no04:53
SLicE_Does anyone know where the best walkthrough for compiling a kernel would be, and what the best tool to use on 2.6.10?04:53
VaderDarth100 for setup04:53
Pop_pa_FrEaKis there any linux program that will convert formats for music ?04:53
crimmydanko123456: sector remapping is done at the device level. Not even the kernel accesses it.04:53
JormundgandChicago60657: This dot-phenomenon sounds more like a problem in Rhythmbox than in Ubuntu...file the report with them.04:54
VaderDarthand 400004:54
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sysrqPop_pa_FrEaK: there are several, it depends on what format to what format04:54
danko123456crimmy: I got all these "uncorrectable errors while upgrading, pointing at the hard disk, it did uprade tho...04:54
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sysrqPop_pa_FrEaK: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelCompileHowto04:54
danko123456gone, then, get a new hard disk??04:54
ShuddertrixPop_pa_FrEaK: I make use of mp32ogg ;)04:54
SLicE_thank you Pop_pa_FrEaK04:54
VaderDarthwhy ubuntu disables root04:54
QMarioIs there a program that I can use that can type in text in a .pdf file?04:54
sysrqerm that last one was to SLicE_ sorry Pop_pa_FrEaK04:54
cccpfp: 10 mbps is 30 euros/month, 100 mbps is 60 euros i think04:54
Chicago60657but it's based on debian which isn't new...i'm all for ubuntu...i hope it succeeds as a replacement of those snobby, slow handed debian people...and i'd love to see everyone using ubuntu instead of windoze...however, i shouldn't have to edit fstab files and chmod the crap out of my system to have "permission" to create a freakin file or directory on my own fucking hard drive...if ubuntu...04:54
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Chicago60657...wants to win joe average user...they have to make it a lot simpler and user friendly...i understand limited root access...but c'mon04:54
sysrqQMario: openoffice can save as pdf04:54
transgressQMario: openoffice04:55
VaderDarthi cannot use ubunto just cos of that04:55
JormundgandChicago60657: Where exactly are you trying to make a file/directory?04:55
sysrqChicago60657: that problem isn't ubuntu's fault, as I said all you have to do is add the uid=youruserid to the fstab line and it will be owned by your user04:55
danko123456but not edit a pdf file, tho, I dont think any computer can do taht.04:55
danko123456umm...program,04:55
VaderDarthno root == sucks04:55
JormundgandVaderDarth: Use sudo and like it.04:56
dooglusVaderDarth: root isn't disabled.04:56
danko123456whatever, you just like the sound of superuser....04:56
danko123456:)04:56
Chicago60657Jormundand you could be very right...but it seemed from the error messages that the kernel was just trying to read and read and read the same flawed blocks instead of aborting or at least giving me the option to abort04:56
sysrqsudo -s gives you a root shell, I don't see why you would need anything beyond that04:56
SLicE_sysrq what do you mean by formats?04:56
danko123456I had su enabled for a while, and disabled it in the end, it is not needd.04:56
pfpccc: damn :P in helsinki 60e/mo gets you 10/10M behind nat at best...04:56
sysrqSLicE_: ie mp3 to vorbis, vorbis to mp3, flac to mp3, whatever04:56
VaderDarthroot04:56
VaderDarthis very important if you have server + many users04:57
dooglusVaderDarth: just type "sudo passwd", set a password for root, then "su" to root like you would in any other distro04:57
danko123456Jormundgand: he is trying to change permissions on a dos partition.04:57
SLicE_sysrq I'm talking linux kernels04:57
Jormundganddanko123456: Okay.04:57
VaderDarthbut I normally login as root04:57
sysrqSLicE_: oh sorry still confusing you two, where did I mention formats?04:57
dooglusVaderDarth: then you're a fool :)04:57
VaderDarthwell if i want to admin 150 user u think I will su 150 times??04:57
VaderDarthonly a fool will do that04:58
sysrqVaderDarth: sudo -s gives you a shell with root privs. no need to login as root04:58
dooglusVaderDarth: what do you mean?04:58
SLicE_sysrq lol nevermind I read it wrong too04:58
VaderDarthbut If i open 10 shells04:58
VaderDarthi need to su 10 times ??04:58
dooglusno.04:58
SLicE_sysrq, thanks for the guide link I'm going to go toy with it04:58
dooglussu once, and open the other 9 from that su'ed shell04:58
danko123456ok, I installed warty onto a computer...that has a sketchy hard drive(known fact from the past) and it worked great, and I then changed my sources.list, and upgraded to hoary, which gave all these errors about hda being not good, and "uncorrectable errors" but it seems to have upgraded, and I am wondering if there is anything I should run to get the bad sectors out of the way, or what I should do...04:58
VaderDarthahh but if i close it04:59
cccpfp: ah. :/ that's weird, i thought it was equally spread there.04:59
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Chicago60657my windoze directory is mounted automatically at boottime on /mnt/win and i have rw options in fstab...i chmod a+rw /mnt/win * and that didn't work, then tried chmod 777 /mnt/win * that didn't work either...i guess what i want to know is whether or not the syntax of chmod is different when you're setting permissions on a directory04:59
cccpfp: and cheaper04:59
scoperesolutoinanyone use 3ddesktop?04:59
VaderDarthalso is it beter than fc3?04:59
VaderDarthfc3 has root and has yum and apt04:59
scoperesolutoinyum blows05:00
dooglushow can I "re-disable" root, after running "sudo passwd" to set a password for root?05:00
Jormundgandyum does indeed blow. It's just a slower apt-get.05:00
sysrqVaderDarth: so use that and stop wasting our time if you are so set in your ways05:00
Shuddertrixyum is ugly, apt in fedora is horrible because of rpms ;)05:00
scoperesolutoini would much rather use emerge but gentoo is a pain to install05:00
Jormundganddooglus: passwd -l root05:00
VaderDarthwell i want to know how to permanetnly enable root05:00
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ShuddertrixVaderDarth: sudo passwd root05:01
dooglusJormundgand: very good.  :)05:01
danko123456sudo -r passwd I think05:01
dooglusVaderDarth: I just told you.  "sudo passwd"05:01
sysrqChicago60657: what filesystem is the partition05:01
VaderDarthi don't like to put all this paswords when I want to delete files etc05:01
ShuddertrixSet a root password, presto, root is working (i'm pretty sure)05:01
Chicago60657msdos05:01
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Chicago60657i'm using win 9805:01
VaderDarthi want to login as root05:01
danko123456:) sorry...05:01
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pfpccc: not really, and especially ppl in small towns complain that telco monopolies keep them from getting any broadband05:01
ShuddertrixVaderDarth: You can then open up a root terminal, login as root, be the root..05:01
scoperesolutoinvader i dont think you can in ubuntu05:01
VaderDarthso if I d/l anything or I can do what I like05:01
scoperesolutoinjust use the root terminal05:02
sysrqChicago60657: have you tried mounting it as vfat?05:02
Pop_pa_FrEaKhmm wish there was a linux cd ripper that would rip to musepack05:02
VaderDarthbut i like whole gui to have root power05:02
QMarioHow can I copy text and pictures from a .pdf file? I tried to do it in xpdf, but there is no copy operator.05:02
Chicago60657so is the chmod syntax different for permissions on directories versus a file?05:02
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Chicago60657no, i haven't...should i05:02
scoperesolutoinyeah i see where that would be nice05:02
ShuddertrixVaderDarth: That's unsafe, but surely gdm can unhide the root account, and you can probably run startx as root ;)05:02
VaderDarthif you are root it is very easy to use pc05:02
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sysrqChicago60657: yes05:03
scoperesolutoinalso very dangerous05:03
JormundgandVaderDarth: sudo remembers that you sudo'd successfully for fifteen minutes after a successful sudo. And there's little need to have a whole-GUI sudo, with gksudo and sudo <command>.05:03
ShuddertrixVaderDarth: Also, very easy to screw something up.05:03
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VaderDarthlike all these stupid configs are very easy to edit05:03
pfpccc: i understand that your government is more active in spreading bband, a good thing imo05:03
Chicago60657just out of curiousity...what is vfat05:03
QMarioHow can I copy text and pictures from a .pdf file? I tried to do it in xpdf, but there is no copy operator.05:03
Quest-Masterxpdf.. haha, what a joke05:03
QMario Shuddertrix, did you really log in as root?05:03
dr_willistry the accrobat reader program05:03
VaderDarthwell why is it dangerous as root05:03
scoperesolutoinvfat is fat3205:03
scoperesolutoinor fat1605:04
VaderDarthif you delete something get it from the bin05:04
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ShuddertrixQMario: Yes.05:04
danko123456QMario: you can do that through OSX I know...05:04
danko123456I dont knwo about ubuntu, tho.05:04
Chicago60657so simply but changint it from msdos to vfat in my fstab is going to solve everything??05:04
JormundgandVaderDarth: If you log in as root then go to get coffee you might return to find someone has rm -rf /'d.05:04
danko123456Perhaps you can take a screentshot, and then copy and paste it out, or use gimp, I syuggested that earlier.05:04
VaderDarthok05:04
dr_willisor accidently put in a space when you are doing a rm -rf / foo/bar/com05:04
VaderDarthso just look in the bin and undelet it!05:05
IIIEars_Doom3  /nick IIIEars05:05
sysrqChicago60657: well if it's win98 it probable is vfat05:05
mpmI'm wondering If I buy a digital recorder what the probabilty is that I won't be able to make it work with linux?  any guesses?05:05
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Jormundgandrm -rf - FORCE REMOVE ALL FILES AND DIRECTORIES REGARDLESS OF CONTEXT OR STATUS.05:05
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ShuddertrixVaderDarth: If only it were possible to get files back from /dev/null. Tsk.05:05
bLaCkEyEdBoYhello05:05
sysrqChicago60657: if you don't want help then by all means just say so and I can use my time for something productive05:05
dr_willisVaderDarth,  the bin?  rm from the shell has no 'trashcan'05:05
bLaCkEyEdBoYi need help to some topic somebody helpme?05:06
VaderDarththat is why i don't like the console05:06
VaderDarthit should be disabled05:06
atholmao05:06
scoperesolutointhen you shouldnt be running linux05:06
mpmhehe05:06
dr_willisnow we are in Troll terriority.05:06
dr_willis:P05:06
VaderDarthu delete from root gui it goes to bin05:06
athoxD05:06
danko123456crimmy: I think you think I will be fine:)05:06
Chicago60657sysrq yeah...that's exactly why i came into this channel...not to get help...05:06
Chicago60657and i wasn't disappointed05:06
dr_willisVaderDarth,  it MAY go to a bin.., or it may not :P05:06
raDeondon't be a troll05:06
athovader, use the gui trash can05:06
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raDeonthat's just rude05:06
dooglusVaderDarth: if you don't like the way 'rm' works, alias it to 'mv' stuff to the trashcan instead?05:06
scoperesolutoinAnyone installed or messed with 3ddesktop?05:06
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JormundgandbLaCkEyEdBoY: You must be in the wrong place. This is the official Ubuntu orgy channel. :o05:06
danko123456bLaCkEyEdBoY: /topic05:07
sysrqwhat a lovely fellow05:07
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sysrqI spend half an hour trying to help him and thats what I get05:07
Shuddertrixscoperesolutoin: I used to, it was pretty cool but it was slow on changing the desktops..05:07
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scoperesolutoinI just wanta know if they fixed it so you dont need the config file anymore05:07
VaderDarthwell rediredt dev/null > trashcan!!!05:07
scoperesolutoinI ran it on gentoo about 2 months ago05:07
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dr_willisscoperesolutoin,  no idea :) installing it now.05:08
scoperesolutoinyeah I am trying to as well05:08
Johnnyfavwhat's r o  mean for the permissions on a file05:08
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danko123456read only05:08
athor o?05:08
Shuddertrixscoperesolutoin: No need for a config file..05:08
danko123456haha I was first.:-;05:08
dr_willisscoperesolutoin,  installed , it works good. :P lol05:08
danko123456:-p05:08
Johnnyfavhow do I change it to read and write then?05:08
scoperesolutoinsweet05:08
athor w?05:08
danko123456well, which file, johnnyf05:08
[Spooky] bLaCkEyEdBoY: no pm please05:08
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VaderDarthok so I tried what u saidon my FC3 box05:08
cccpfp: yeah, but some areas have lower priority and won't see fiber for a long time. it's all relative i guess...05:08
Johnnyfavmy mounted ntfs drive05:09
dooglus/etc/gdm/gdm.conf05:09
VaderDarthi typere fm -r05:09
VaderDarthrm -r05:09
danko123456Johnnyfav: unfort... that does nto work.05:09
bLaCkEyEdBoYi need help for configure my monitor05:09
samuelsup a05:09
samuelll05:09
dooglusVaderDarth: look around line 160 of /etc/gdm/gdm.conf05:09
VaderDarththere is only a big noise from my 200GB hdd05:09
Johnnyfavis there anyway I can configure it so I can write?05:09
scoperesolutoinvader I think you should install gentoo05:09
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VaderDarthbut i cannot find etc folder after i typed rm -r?05:10
dooglusJohnnyfav: apparently the 2.6 kernels can be configured to 'safely' allow writing to NTFS partitions so long as you don't change the size of any files05:10
samuelanyone here have any suggestions for mp3 players that are linux friendly?05:10
danko123456does anyone know, when I install a server install of ubuntu, and then I install xfce4 through apt-get, what needs to be done to log in to it?05:10
Johnnyfavouch05:10
dooglusJohnnyfav: if you want to create new files, or change file sizes then writing to NTFS is still 'dangerous'05:10
Johnnyfavok05:10
JohnnyfavI'll forget that idea then05:11
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VaderDarthOk now my hdd stopped making noise after i typed rm -r05:11
danko123456dude, I never liked your comments from the start:-p05:11
VaderDarthbut some new windows of ff not opening why?05:11
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mpmdanko123456: xfce isn't showing up from gdm?05:12
transgressdid you just install xfce or xfce4?05:12
danko123456I think you are just pulling our leg...mpm, I dont think I have gdm, I am thinking I need that.05:12
bLaCkEyEdBoYMy problem is that my ubuntu load but after the monitor turn off.05:12
transgressxfce is old as hell and doesn't show up05:12
bLaCkEyEdBoYi don't know how to do05:12
danko123456xfce4 which is better for a old comp?05:12
Cybersoftwow how did they find the name for this distro ?05:12
Cybersoftwhy a random password generator ?05:12
transgressxfce is probably better... but for an older pc i'd get blackbox because it's a lot prettier than xfce05:12
scoperesolutoinhey dr_willis, 3ddesktop failed05:12
goldfishfluxbox is faster than xfce05:12
danko123456yeah, but, not simple to use for a girl...05:13
dr_willisscoperesolutoin,  how are you 'running' it  :P05:13
transgressblackbox is faster than fluxbox...05:13
goldfishoh right05:13
danko123456xfce then over xfce4 for slower computers?05:13
goldfishcool05:13
scoperesolutoinim just trying to install it05:13
transgresshow slow danko123456 ?05:13
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VaderDarthOk guys I type rm -rf / as you toldm me to fix root and I cannot see any of my files05:13
scoperesolutoini did a ./configure and i get some shitty compile errors05:13
danko123456I am gonna try sudo apt-get install gdm..05:13
dr_willis3ddeskd - to start the service, then 3desk  to activate the fancy switcher.05:13
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transgressVaderDarth: you just did what!?05:13
danko123456I dunno what else to do...05:13
goldfishVaderDarth: please tell me you are joking.05:13
danko123456is there a startx command that actually works?05:13
AegirVaderDarth, Hahahha.... rm -rf / ... Funny.05:13
dooglusdanko123456: ubuntu comes with gdm05:14
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transgressdanko123456: did you install ubuntu/05:14
transgressif so then you have gdm05:14
danko123456dooglus:  server install does not.05:14
AegirHmm, thats somthing to try, cat /dev/random...05:14
VaderDarthwell everything is working05:14
dooglusdanko123456: ok, i see05:14
VaderDarthbut there is no files on teh hdd05:14
mpmVaderDarth: you really shouldn't be messing with people who are here to get help05:14
AegirFun...05:14
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goldfishVaderDarth: shut up.05:14
Aegircat /dev/random was interesting05:15
threatVaderDarth, your name looks familar05:15
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VaderDarthok I will reeboot and see if the files appear05:15
St0n3-C0lHow do I enable Direct Rendering in i810 ?05:15
danko123456transgress: did you get it now?05:15
threatAegir, lol, yeah and the good thing is it changes all the time, so it doesnt get boring05:15
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AegirHmm, cat /dev/null didnt do anything interesting...05:15
transgressget what?05:16
danko123456VaderDarth: who told you to do a rm -rf / to fix your root?05:16
danko123456ha05:16
Aegirthreat, Yeap. Easy way to pass the time in school ;)05:16
jaysinhow do i uninstall programs?05:16
threatAegir, heh05:16
danko123456gety my ping of death, HAHAHA, jj...05:16
St0n3-C0lrm -rf / lol05:16
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transgressheh oops05:16
St0n3-C0lthis means he removed everything ?05:16
goldfishjaysin: how did u install it?05:16
VaderDarthwell you said it will force it05:16
goldfishSt0n3-C0l: yes.05:16
threatAegir, you know whats even better then cat'ing something?  redirecting it to your sound device :)  thats always my favourite passtime05:16
dr_willisSt0n3-C0l,  or hes Trolling again.05:16
jaysinummm from ubuntuguide.org05:16
mpmdanko123456: ignore him he's just fishing for trouble; you shouldn't even mention stuff like that it's not funny when someone goes and tries it innnocently and wipes their system05:16
Aegirthreat, ROFL05:16
St0n3-C0lthen h0w he's using ?05:16
jaysingoldfish  oops from ubuntuguide.org05:16
goldfishjaysin: apt-get remove packagename --purge05:16
danko123456transgress: get what? ... (22:16:12) transgress left the room (quit: Client Quit). ... (22:16:14) danko123456: ha ... 22:16:26) danko123456: gety my ping of death, HAHAHA, jj...05:17
danko123456:)05:17
threatcat /dev/random > /dev/dsp  oh yeah, hear the funkiness05:17
jaysingoldfish  thanks :D05:17
goldfishjaysin: he is joking.05:17
goldfishjaysin: np05:17
transgressactually i got my clicking the x of death05:17
danko123456mpm: he did it himselgf, I never used that command till that post...05:17
Jormundgandcat /dev/random screws up the character set. :(05:17
goldfishhmm05:17
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goldfishSt0n3-C0l: he is joking.05:17
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danko123456transgress: yeah, I know, I was jj...hey, did you get why I dont have gdm?05:17
transgressha yes it will... but only temporarily05:17
threatJormundgand, reset fixes it :)05:17
danko123456I insatlled a server install.05:17
VaderDarthi just opened console and tyrpe rm -rf / to fix the root for good05:18
transgressnope05:18
threatVaderDarth, :/05:18
transgressVaderDarth: that will break everything... wise one05:18
VaderDarthnow everything is working05:18
danko123456transgress: I did a server install, and tehre is no x at all...05:18
concept10is this were the guys with leet hacker skillz hang?05:18
VaderDarthbut if I type commands they are not05:18
transgressdanko123456: oh... then reinstall it heh05:18
danko123456I installed xfce, but I need gdm, I guess,. Ill try that.05:18
nalioththreat: is that copyrighted music you're listening to?05:18
St0n3-C0lHow do i enable Hardware Acceleration ????05:18
Jormundgandconcept10: nyet, that's #gentoo ;)05:18
transgressdanko123456: you don't need gdm05:18
mpmdanko123456: he's lying or joking... I wasn't scolding you just clarifying that it's best not to quote05:18
danko123456transgress: it was an option, not a mistake:)05:18
goldfishconcept10: lol05:18
St0n3-C0ldirect rendering: No05:19
transgressjust type which xfce, then xinit /path/to/xfce05:19
danko123456ah, I get it, mpm...:)05:19
threatnalioth, hehe I dont think anyone has patiented the /dev/null device :)05:19
VaderDarthall my mp3s are missing05:19
concept10:)05:19
transgressor even xinit `which xfce`05:19
VaderDarthcan't find them05:19
transgressVaderDarth: you just deleted your home directory dipshit...05:19
goldfishconcept10: try #debian :)05:19
transgressno offense05:19
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goldfishJormundgand: try it :)05:19
VaderDarthbut i just did it for root05:19
nalioththreat: thought you sent /random thru your sound device. random sounds suspiciously like some modern music05:19
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danko123456xinit, command not found...05:19
transgressrm -rf / deletes everything below / too05:20
transgressthat's the -r part05:20
St0n3-C0llol05:20
transgress-r == recursive05:20
St0n3-C0llet's try :P05:20
danko123456VaderDarth: you are a moron if you really did that command.05:20
VaderDarthbut u told me it is dangerous to have root05:20
mpmfor me danko123456 it's the file called .xsession in home that has this exec /etc/X11/Xsession /usr/bin/xfce05:20
Varangercrimmy: are you here?05:20
threatnalioth, oh yeah I completely brain farted on that one, I do see the resembelance now :)05:20
Jormundgand-f == fuck up05:20
crimmyVaranger: yes05:20
danko123456And you are a moron if you didnt and are pulling our leg still.05:20
VaderDarthso I deleted root05:20
transgressanyways... watching this dvd05:20
naliothSt0n3-C0l: you first, we'll follow if it looks like fun05:20
threatJormundgand, LOL05:20
St0n3-C0lVaderDarth: Dangerous to be LOGGED IN as root05:20
St0n3-C0llol05:20
transgressVaderDarth: so you deleted fucking everything if you didn't get a lot of warning05:20
transgresss05:20
pfpin that case strings < /dev/random must be modern literature...05:20
St0n3-C0li dun wanna take risk :P05:20
goldfishIt's dangerous if you are a retard.05:20
crimmytransgress: (watch the language, please)05:20
threatVaderDarth, thats why you create a user account for, so you dont completely bork your whole system, only your files :)05:21
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goldfishtransgress: /ignore VaderDarth05:21
St0n3-C0lcrimmy: I think05:21
goldfishtbh :)05:21
naliothLord Vader, that is why ubuntu uses "sudo"05:21
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transgressgoldfish: good idea05:21
threatpfp,  heh05:21
goldfishtransgress: :)05:21
danko123456mpm: that did have a result, logging me out:)05:21
St0n3-C0l'fuck up' word said by Jormundgand05:21
Varangercrimmy: I returned and I scan still get this audio card to work.... (well, it took me 2 months to make DRI work)05:21
goldfishMorons like that make me wonder.05:21
threatI love ubuntu! *hugz*05:22
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St0n3-C0llol05:22
crimmyVaranger: you mean you _can't_?05:22
St0n3-C0lBeware...05:22
St0n3-C0l:P05:22
St0n3-C0lThere are few electric circuits05:22
St0n3-C0l:P05:22
mpmdanko123456: "sudo gedit ~/.xsession" and then add that line to it05:22
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Varangercrimmy: YES juaaaaaaaaz I always have this problem05:22
threatsu admuser -c 'sudo rm -fr /'  oh yeah :)05:22
VaderDarthOk I will reboot and see if it fixes the broblem05:22
JormundgandIs it right to be afraid to pipe random characters through to the sound device? It's the same fear I had when I cause glitches to appear in video games which do weird things.05:22
crimmyJormundgand: you can't do that for direct alsa05:22
crimmyJormundgand: you can for alsa's oss emulation, though05:23
Varangerthreat: who has? rm -rf / ?05:23
crimmyJormundgand: (alsa requires alsa-lib, hence "default", "hw:0", etc.)05:23
threatVaranger, indeed05:23
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VaderDarthIt is not rebooting??05:23
Jormundgandcrimmy: You're telling me this why?05:23
threathmm to study, do work or play ET under Ubuntu :/ hmmmm05:23
JormundgandVaderDarth, hardest reboot...power cycle. ;)05:23
crimmyJormundgand: because you asked whether it's right to be afraid to pipe random chars to the sound device05:24
VaderDarthbut why is it not rebooting?05:24
crimmyJormundgand: I'm telling you that you _can't_ for alsa directly.05:24
JormundgandBecause you deleted shutdown, hence no shutdown -r now.05:24
threatVaderDarth, ? you deleted the reboot program?05:24
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St0n3-C0llol05:24
threatVaderDarth, init 605:24
mpmthreat: and Jormundgand he's messing with you pay no attention05:24
St0n3-C0lhe deleted everything05:24
VaderDarthi just deleted the dangerous root05:24
St0n3-C0lrm -rf /05:24
St0n3-C0llol05:25
threatheh05:25
threatlol05:25
naliothi take it the cats have not returned.. .. ..05:25
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danko123456VaderDarth: come one, man...that is teh root folder, not the root account.05:25
Jormundgandcat cat | cat05:25
Jormundgand?05:25
raDeonlol VaderDarth sounds like a future candidate for a Darwin award05:25
mpmno danko123456 / is everything05:25
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raDeonhe deletes the reboot program05:26
VaderDarththe root folder is for root correct?05:26
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threatheh talking about /dev/null, that reminds me of that BOFH article I saw, where the dood changes the tape backup device to /dev/null to increase backup time :)05:26
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transgressthe /root folder is for root05:26
danko123456no, it holds everything. all other folders are branching from teh root.05:26
VaderDarthno05:26
danko123456basically, you deleted your whole hard drive if you were serious about having done that.05:26
VaderDarthhow is it05:26
dsdhi is anyone here to help me? if so please pm me...i have a question about installing programs onto ubuntu05:26
threatVaderDarth, do you know what a tree is ?  as in the computer structure :)05:26
transgressthink about it ... everything starts with /05:26
MachineScrewhow do I recompile the kernel05:27
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transgresssee: /bin /usr /etc05:27
dsdif anyone can help me please pm me05:27
threatVaderDarth, / is the root as in the root of the tree, everything else branches off from the root, there is nothing before the root05:27
MachineScrewunder ubuntu05:27
dooglusdsd, just ask here and we'll help if we can05:27
nalioththere are no ops here atm05:27
dsdok05:27
Jormundganddsd: Ask her-- damn you, dooglus.05:27
threatVaderDarth, except dirt if you want to think of it that way05:27
mpmhi dr_willis good to see you; the channel's gone to trolls while you were gone05:27
dooglusJormundgand?05:27
naliothhence the idiots putting dangerous command sequences into the channel05:27
dr_willismpm,  Lol. :P05:27
naliothmore than once05:27
transgressuit05:28
transgressbleh05:28
dr_willistrying to get F12 to run the 3desk switcher.. but cant get it going.05:28
chillywillywhat tool can I use to redirect sound for my mplayer?05:28
MachineScrewany one05:28
VaderDarthok so u are sayin I deleted root, and my folder05:28
crimmyVaranger: ok, let me work on something for you. Should take about 20 mins.05:28
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transgressi accidentally bound my damned slash key05:28
danko123456dooglus: you worte what he was gonna say, so he said that.05:28
St0n3-C0lVaderDarth: Check your pvt05:28
danko123456yes, your whole hard disk, VaderDarth.05:28
dr_willisi alwyas loved how gnome/metacity decided to removed easy configuration of such POWER features like binding an arbitary command to a F key05:28
dr_willis:P05:28
VaderDarthi cannot open any new window05:28
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Varangercrimmy: ok thx05:28
dsdwell, is it possible to install programs from another distro such as knoppix onto ubuntu?05:28
VaderDarthonly this is working05:28
St0n3-C0llol05:29
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St0n3-C0lu'll not be able to open anything..05:29
St0n3-C0l:P05:29
dr_willisdsd thats not very safe.05:29
St0n3-C0lafter a reboot05:29
MachineScrewI need to recompile my kernel under ubuntu how do I go about doing this or maybe some documentation on it05:29
transgressokay fixed that05:29
transgressheh05:29
dooglusdon't worry, you haven't deleted your Windows NTFS partitions, so you can go back to Windows when you've finished trolling in here.05:29
dr_willisdsd,  but about any program that is on knoppix. should have ubuntu packages.05:29
naliothdsd: why would you want to install from knoppix, when the proggy is probably already available to you?05:29
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St0n3-C0l"root" account is not dangerous account.05:29
VaderDarthok how can i undelet everythin?05:29
dooglusdsd, it's not a good idea to install binaries compiled for other distros05:30
naliothVaderDarth: you are F***ED05:30
VaderDarthwhere is the system restore05:30
St0n3-C0lIt's Super User Account which allows full access to the user so some programs might just crash under this !05:30
VaderDarthcommand05:30
threatVaderDarth,  LOL05:30
threatVaderDarth,  there isnt one :)05:30
St0n3-C0ll0l05:30
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MachineScrewok any one05:30
dooglusdsd: just use the 'system menu', then 'administration', then 'synaptic' to install the program you want05:30
dsdi meant are the programs that are readily available for knoppix, availbe for download for ubuntu such as airsnort and aireplay?05:30
JormundgandHah. Tooltip for "About GNOME" is "Know more about GNOME". People look at it and think "coo, it puts info in my head just by clicking a button!"05:30
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threatVaderDarth,  well technically there is, but I doubt you would beable to make sense of it ;)05:30
dsddooglus, thanks alot05:31
St0n3-C0ldsd: should be, update your sources.list05:31
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Jormundgand-VaderDarth- VERSION Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.4/20050511] 05:31
naliothdsd: pretty much anything you see on knoppix is available for ubuntu05:31
chillywillywhat tool can I use to redirect sound to my mplayer?05:31
dsdnalioth, thanks05:31
transgressJormundgand: yep... which can run on windows...05:31
crimmyVaranger: /join #alsa05:31
chillywillythere's no esddsp anymore...05:31
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MachineScrewgod damnit why are these chat rooms so useless just a quick answer or somthing come on people05:31
Jormundgand-VaderDarth- OS Windows NT 5.1 (Win32)05:31
bob2chillywilly: redirect sound *to* mplayer? what are you trying to do?05:32
Jormundgand;)05:32
bob2MachineScrew: why do you need to recompile it?05:32
dooglusdsd: airsnort is available.  I don't see 'aireplay', but 'aircrack' is there.05:32
VaderDarthyes05:32
bob2MachineScrew: being polite and giving all the neccessary information in your question will encourage people to answer you.05:32
chillywillybob2: sound does not work in mplayer because the sound card is blocked by the sound server05:32
MachineScrewto get the GNOME Batt Mon to work05:32
naliothMachineScrew: if some1 knew the answer you were looking for, they'd tell you05:32
St0n3-C0lMachineScrew: May http://www.ubuntuguide.org help you or http://ubuntuforums.org OR http://wiki.ubuntu.com05:32
dsddooglus, where do u see the list? on the ubuntu site?05:32
crimmychillywilly: -ao esd doesn't work?05:32
chillywillybob2: what is the trick to remedy said situation05:32
bob2chillywilly: mplayer -ao esd05:32
chillywillythat might work05:32
dooglusdsd, no, in 'synaptic'05:32
naliothdsd: ubuntulinux.org/wiki look for "restricted formats"05:33
St0n3-C0lMachineScrew: If people don't know how to do it they won't answer you :)05:33
Jormundgand* Ping reply from VaderDarth: ? second(s)05:33
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JormundgandXD05:33
MachineScrewSt0n3-C0l:no they don't05:33
dsddooglus: thanks05:33
dsdnalioth: thaks05:33
dsdthanks05:33
St0n3-C0land if someone will know related bout ur question...they'll surely answer ur question05:33
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dooglusdsd: alternatively, go here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ and type, for example "aireplay" into the 2nd 'keyboard' box.  it'll tell you which package aireplay is in05:34
MachineScrewdamn so no one here knows how to recompile a kernel under debian how sad05:34
crimmyMachineScrew: there are multiple methods05:34
chillywillythanks guys05:34
chillywillyI knew it was something simple just couldn't remember what05:34
crimmyMachineScrew: you could use kernel-package or the standard make && make bzImage && ...05:35
danko123456bob2: I have an issue here:) check this out. I install warty on a computer, and it installs fine, I change sources.list to hoary, and upgrade...during the upgrade I get lots of errors about my hard drive being nto good and I remember the words"uncorrectable error" but it seemed to upgrade fine, and then I wanted to add a GUI, cause I did a server install, but now my pppoeconf is not working all the sudden, and when I ifconfig after05:35
St0n3-C0lI don't know how to compile a kernel on Debian-based..i've compiled them in Slackware05:35
bob2MachineScrew: stop being so obnoxious05:35
bob2MachineScrew: you seem to be the only person whoconclusively doesn't kno whow to do it05:35
MachineScrewcrimmy: I need to know the quickiest way that I can apply an patch05:35
VaderDarthok so nice one i will reboot now05:35
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threathmm I know this is out of scope of Ubuntu, although with apt-proxy it tells me that some of the package are not PGP signed, however when I use the source for the site instead of going thorugh apt-proxy is doesnt complain :/  what am I missing/05:35
crimmyMachineScrew: the fastest way? If you're familiar with the stock config, just apply it there and recompile it05:35
crimmyMachineScrew: if you're familiar with the Debian method, drop it in as a dpatch05:36
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MachineScrewcrimmy: no I am not05:36
St0n3-C0lcrimmy: Is that possible that I download from kernel.org and then start "make menuconfig" "make" "make bzImage" "make modules" etc05:36
dsddooglus: thanks so do u think if i just write down a list of progs that knoppix has which ubuntu doesnt and then search it on the ubuntu packages search engine, I will most likely find what i need?05:36
naliothMachineScrew: do we make fun of your shortcomings? consideration05:36
pfpdanko123456: have you run badblocks on the drive?05:36
crimmySt0n3-C0l: absolutely; you can use whatever method makes you fuzzy.05:36
pfpbooting from separate media ofc05:36
danko123456so I run badblocks from a term, no...05:36
St0n3-C0lcrimmy: It won't trouble na ?05:36
crimmySt0n3-C0l: Ubuntu has certain config options enabled for good reasons; it's a good idea to look at them first. This doesn't even go into the patches that Ubuntu applies.05:37
MachineScrewcrimmy: I don't know how to do that can you point me to a doc that will describe that05:37
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danko123456pfp: it needs params, shoudl I man badblocks?05:37
dooglusdsd: yes.  one thing though, you probably don't have all the sources you need set up yet.  it's easy to do though.05:37
St0n3-C0lcrimmy: where do i see them ?05:37
crimmyMachineScrew: nearly all Linux source has a readme with instructions.05:38
crimmySt0n3-C0l: /boot/config-$(uname -r)05:38
threatgood I was ignored :P I will try to google for it now ;)05:38
pfpdanko123456: yeah, and also dont run 'badblocks /dev/hda' if your system is running from hda ;)05:38
dsddooglus, youve been a great help but excuse me for my newbiness but what exactly are sources05:38
MachineScrewcrimmy: I just need to apply the patch to the stock kernel using "dpatch" like you said05:38
St0n3-C0lcrimmy: If I save the config file and then just replace with the newer one then ?05:39
danko123456well, I only have one hard drive there.05:39
scoperesolutoinis ssh set up be default in ubuntu?05:39
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transgressno05:39
danko123456umount everything except /boot, or something??? i have no clue...05:39
dooglusdsd, did you run 'synaptic' yet?05:39
cthulfuegoscoperesolutoin: Not the server, I think.05:39
MachineScrewcrimmy: I am not a Linux novice just a Debian novice05:39
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scoperesolutoinok05:39
danko123456put it into this machine???05:39
St0n3-C0lscoperesolution: openssh-client is installed bydefault and openssh-server u'll have to install it manually05:39
scoperesolutoinok05:39
pfpdanko123456: booting from a live or install cd would be a good idea then, running badblocks from that05:40
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cthulfuegodanko123456: GO to single-user mode, unmount all but /, then remount / read-only, then run fsck with appropriate options.05:40
crimmyMachineScrew: it'll be more efficient for you to use the stock (vanilla) make $config && make bzImage && make modules && ... method, then05:40
danko123456hmm...so man fsck and that badblocks then?05:40
Varangercrimmy: I entered to #alsa... should I ask about the problem there?05:40
crimmyVaranger: sec05:40
danko123456I have an install cd, I just did an install.05:40
dsddooglus, no but im sure i have it. im going to try getting ubuntu onto a partition for now and ill get back to u when im on it. Im sure im going to run into a lot of trouble since i have a broadcom 4306 chipset as my wifi05:40
crimmySt0n3-C0l: copy Ubuntu's config over and make oldconfig05:41
cthulfuegodanko123456: Then just boot the install cd, wait for the dialog to come up, hit alt-F2 and run fsck on the appropriate partition.05:41
danko123456dialog being that screen?05:41
St0n3-C0lu mean i save this ubuntu's config and then replace with the newer one and type command "make oldconfig" ?05:41
pfphttp://ubcd.sourceforge.net/ <- also good for pure h/w diagnostics05:41
crimmySt0n3-C0l: you don't need to save it; it's already saved.05:41
danko123456thank you.05:42
St0n3-C0lplus how do I update grub ? like if u use lilo u type 'lilo'05:42
crimmysudo update-grub05:42
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St0n3-C0lahan05:42
danko123456Its a new thing:( I am sick too, I really wish it worked out the box:)05:42
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St0n3-C0lanyone using xchat 2.4.3 here ?05:42
garnertrevening (fr my area) all... :)05:43
St0n3-C0llol05:43
St0n3-C0lmorning here :P05:43
garnertrmorning to you then...05:43
JormundgandEarly morning here.05:43
Quest-Master11:43 PM :D05:43
naliothyou mean you guys actually sleep?05:43
Jormundgand04:43 ;)05:43
cthulfuego13:4905:43
St0n3-C0llol05:43
dsddooglus: one more thing, i have tried searching my chipset EVERYWHERE to see if it is compatible with any kind of wep hacking programs but ive found nothing, do u have any suggestions as to where i might obtain a program that is compatilbe with the bcm4306 chipset05:43
St0n3-C0lI haven't sleep yet05:43
St0n3-C0l:P05:43
danko123456Jormundgand: iceland?05:43
pfpdanko123456: pity... :( sounds a bit like hardware trouble to me anyway05:43
Jormundganddanko123456: close, Britain.05:44
threatSt0n3-C0l, me!05:44
garnertrI just wanted to thank everyone that helped me get my laptop to recognize my DVD/CDR player, dunno what happened but after slicking the dr and re-installing w/ the i386 flavor, everything is working GREAT!!05:44
danko123456yeAH it is obviously...:)05:44
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St0n3-C0lthreat: u too ?05:44
St0n3-C0l:P05:44
DonL08:44 PM here05:44
threat2.4.105:44
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Jormundganddanko123456: Although I've been to Iceland. Nice place.05:44
dooglusdsd: I don't know much about wireless, sorry.  I only tried for about 10 minutes to get WEP working with my adaptor before I decided that I'd rather use a cable anyway.05:44
St0n3-C0lur using 2.4.3 or 2.4.1?05:44
danko123456Jormundgand: from your name, and the time, I made the mistake:)05:44
Jormundganddanko123456: Heh.05:45
St0n3-C0lhaha05:45
dsddooglus ok thanks alot ill try out ur suggestions05:45
DonLJormundgand, I'd like to visit Iceland05:45
St0n3-C0li dun how people check user's location by checking their ip :P05:45
naliothdsd if your wireless works for the internet, it'll most likely (special cases won't) be usable for airsnort/whatever05:45
garnertrNow that my dr is being 'seen' I just need to get the right player to run my dvd's... :)05:45
St0n3-C0lif anybody knows bout this..please temme :>05:45
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_jah_how do i add the mac os X like bar with all the icons on it that link to applications in ubuntu05:45
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danko123456the first part before the . is ISP specific sometimes.05:45
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nalioth_jah_: that is a damned good question05:46
danko123456There may be lists, St0n3-C0l.05:46
Jormundgand_jah_: A number of ways. You can use the Enlightenment bar, or there's a gDesklet, or there's Xfce.05:46
St0n3-C0llol05:46
naliothJormundgand: enlightenment bar?05:46
_jah_i'm on the default gnome desktop05:46
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St0n3-C0lya know05:47
St0n3-C0l?05:47
Jormundgandnalioth: I forget the name. Search "Enlightenment bar" on Google should bring it up.05:47
crimmyskel_home: err...?05:47
St0n3-C0lwhat do we say MAC OS X?05:47
St0n3-C0ltheme05:47
St0n3-C0lblack...bliar ?05:47
St0n3-C0llolz05:47
crimmyskel_home: are you referring to mozilla-firefox?05:47
St0n3-C0lstrange name :>05:47
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St0n3-C0lsomething from m ?05:47
skel_homecrimmy: yeah, came in here several days ago with that inquery and everyone assured me that the way ubuntu was doing things was the correct way.. I suggested that an updated version number would be most prudent and was shrugged off05:48
danko123456St0n3-C0l: got my explanation?05:48
_jah_can i type sudo apt-get install gDesklet05:48
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_jah_and will it install and set it up for me?05:48
Jormundgand_jah_: sudo apt-get install gdesklets05:48
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skel_homecrimmy: so now I have to go read some damn bug submission to get the work around for installing extensions for firefox.05:49
Jormundgand_jah_: and yes.05:49
_jah_ok thanks05:49
cthulfuegoskel_home: Suppose you got outvoted *shrug*05:49
crimmyskel_home: the problem is that Ubuntu's version _isn't_ 1.0.405:49
crimmyskel_home: it's _only_ security fixes.05:49
J35U5anyone know a reason xmms would lock up whenever i try to play an mp3?05:49
JormundgandJ35U5: You need the plugin.05:49
dr_willisyou just use the about:whaever and set the verison to be 1.0.4 :P and you can isntall them - i recall.05:49
crimmyskel_home: to reversion it as 1.0.4 would be misleading and incorrect.05:49
_jah_E: Malformed line 34 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)05:49
_jah_E: The list of sources could not be read.05:49
danko123456skel_home: you can aslo ask us to guide you thru it:)05:49
skel_homecrimmy: thats fine.. but even debian does stuff like reflect that patch in the package info05:49
J35U5Jormundgand, i ahve it.05:49
_jah_i keep getting that message05:49
IcemanV9_jah_: i believe it is called "starter bar" in gdesklets. not sure though.05:49
danko123456open about:config in FF05:49
St0n3-C0ldankol123456: Yeah u mean there'll be alot of peoples who know bout this05:50
danko123456in the address batr05:50
danko123456then search for .vendorSub05:50
St0n3-C0lbut temme what do we call MAC OS X theme in other words :P05:50
dooglusubuntu still only offers firefox 1.0.2, with security fixes from 1.0.3 and 1.0.4 backported05:50
skel_homedanko123456: I know, everyone in here has been very willing to help =]  that I am greatful for05:50
danko123456and change that to 1.0.405:50
pfpJ35U5: wrong output device in preferences maybe05:50
JormundgandI'm slightly miffed that the backports 1.0.4 doesn't update its vendorSub.05:50
danko123456skel_home: and that is it.05:50
danko123456Jormundgand: yeah, that would be handy, I guess.05:50
crimmyskel_home: there's nothing in the changelog that even remotely suggests that it contains the bugfixes (not security fixes!) from 1.0.405:50
_jah_my ap-get doesn't work for anything05:51
_jah_i keep getting a message saying E: Malformed line 34 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)05:51
_jah_E: The list of sources could not be read.05:51
danko123456sudo apt-get update05:51
Jormundgand_jah_: The error message is illuminating. Try pastebinning your /etc/apt/sources.list.05:51
danko123456then, also change your sources.list to www.mts.net/~danb/sources.list :)05:51
skel_homecrimmy: which change log?05:51
_jah_how do i do that05:51
skel_homecrimmy: the one for debian?05:51
_jah_Jormundgand05:51
danko123456skel_home: extensions work now?05:51
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Dr_Melectausseriously ive asked so many times ive lost count. Has _ANYONE_ got any idea when the dam torrent tracker will be back up ??05:52
Jormundgand_jah_: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com and paste the output of cat /etc/apt/sources.list there.05:52
skel_homedanko123456: will try shortly =]  though I'm leary of what else that may break =/05:52
crimmyskel_home: Ubuntu05:52
danko123456_jah_: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list , also change your sources.list to www.mts.net/~danb/sources.list05:52
dooglusDr_Melectaus: did you know...  you can download using Azureus?05:52
danko123456skel_home: well, nothing breaks with that.05:52
danko123456Altho I never use ff, but I dont think that breaks anything.05:52
Dr_Melectausdooglus, what do you mean05:53
crimmyskel_home: mozilla-firefox (1.0.2-0ubuntu5.3) hoary-security; urgency=low05:53
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danko123456crimmy: where is that from?05:53
_jah_danko123456 why should I? is it an official repository, or are you trying to screw me over?05:53
gizmoHey all- Hello!05:53
dooglusDr_Melectaus: try downloading the torrent you want using Azureus.  You'll be amazed.  The tracker is down, but Azureus doesn't care about such trivialities...05:53
danko123456_jah_: You will never know...05:53
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danko123456:)05:53
_jah_by the way pastebin.ubuntu.com doesn't seem to be responding05:53
skel_homecrimmy: what was the reason for not releasing 1.0.4? I'd imagine it has a high enough userbase to be well enough tested.05:53
danko123456jj, it is something that a guy called nickrud did, adn it works great here, has all the official ubuntu repos...05:54
crimmydanko123456: the changelog05:54
garnertrdumbe newbie ?, how do I find a file on my ubuntu system?  I'm looking for a spec file but dunno how to "search", any tips? duh sorry just don't SEE it...05:54
skel_homethe browser is a pretty critical thing to keep current05:54
Dr_Melectausdooglus, will i be able to continue the download from where it stopped last week. i only have 200 megs left to go05:54
crimmyskel_home: it's standard security policy for Ubuntu05:54
JohnnyfavI installed an application with wine....onto the 'c:'  and I can't find it anywhere....where is it?05:54
cthulfuegoskel_home: firefox is "a browser" not "the browser"05:54
danko123456_jah_: it is ubuntu.pastebin.com ...05:54
skel_homecthulfuego: your point?05:54
danko123456it is the browser almost...05:54
skel_homecrimmy: I guess I can be greatful enough for security policies =P05:54
perrygeoAnyone know how to configure Ubuntu as a print server to XP machines on a LAN?05:54
dr_willisJohnnyfav,  theres a 'fake' windows dir somewher in your homedir. try 'ls -a'05:55
danko123456I mean, I cant install my epiphany without ff.05:55
crimmyskel_home: security fixes are backported. You can't ensure that a new version (1.0.4) that is a security fix doesn't also introduce new bugs.05:55
cthulfuegoskel_home: Just pointing out that firefox isn't the be all and end all of Ubuntu.05:55
dooglusDr_Melectaus: I would guess so, but I can't promise it - I've never tried switching bittorrent clients part way though.  If you have enough disk space, I would suggest making a copy of your partially completed file and pointing azureus at the new copy - that way if it tramples all over it, you've lost nothing05:55
Dr_MelectausCool05:55
pfpJohnnyfav: ~/.wine/fake_windows05:55
skel_homecthulfuego: never said it was. though it does have a hefty margin of the market out of the oss browsers.05:55
Dr_Melectausdooglus, you got a link to this client?05:55
naliothdanko123456: we know you have secretly compiled every pkg available to ubuntu, and are pointing at that URL for your own nefarious purposes05:56
dooglusDr_Melectaus: you need a the sun java runtime environment first - do you have it?05:56
St0n3-C0lMAC OS X theme is basically called ??? What ?05:56
Johnnyfavyeah05:56
JohnnyfavI tried that...but it'05:56
cthulfuegoSt0n3-C0l: Aqua05:56
perrygeoI've been trying CUPS for over an hour.. do I NEED to install Samba to make Ubuntu a print server?05:56
Dr_Melectausyes dooglus05:56
Johnnyfavthe directory Steam isn't on showing05:56
St0n3-C0lnah05:56
St0n3-C0lnot aqua05:56
cthulfuegoSt0n3-C0l: Yes, Aqua.05:56
St0n3-C0lsomeone told me ...but i forgot05:56
skel_homecrimmy: so is the policy to wait every 6 months for a new browser version and only release security fixes? that seems like a pretty weak cycle05:56
St0n3-C0lit was in apt-get too05:57
dooglusDr_Melectaus: so it's here: http://azureus.sourceforge.net/download.php05:57
Jormundgandperrygeo: Only if sharing to Windows comps.05:57
Dr_Melectausthanks dooglus05:57
cthulfuegoWhat someone else calls it is a different matter. the UI style is called Aqua.05:57
dooglusno worries.05:57
danko123456nalioth: well, you know that, but, some newb...I will get my hands on one one of these days...Ive been learning foreign klanguages, I hear that the #ubuntu-xx are pretty dead, I could get away with lots there...05:57
perrygeoJormundgand: So Samba is necessary... i heard you could do it through CUPS alone05:57
Jormundgandskel_home: If you care that much use backports and get the latest features.05:57
J35U5pfp, that was it. i had to change it to alsa.05:57
JohnnyfavI get into the fake windows directory and everything shows except Steam...then I go to reinstall it and when I browse for where I want to install it it shows Steam on c:05:58
Johnnyfavand I listed -a05:58
JormundgandSt0n3-C0l: There's a KDE theme called Baghira.05:58
dooglusDr_Melectaus: apparently the tracker is up anyway...05:58
gizmoBaghira rocks05:58
Dr_Melectausit is??05:58
crimmyskel_home: no, the policy has nothing to do with new versions whatsoever. The policy depends on backporting only the security fixes to whatever version the stable versions released with.05:58
Dr_Melectaushow longs it been up for dooglus ?05:58
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dooglusDr_Melectaus: I don't know - it was down on Friday, and seems to be up now.  I've been away for the weekend05:58
skel_homecrimmy: ok. thanks for your time and patience. much appreciated =] 05:58
St0n3-C0lahh05:58
St0n3-C0lbhagira05:58
St0n3-C0lbhaghira05:58
St0n3-C0lbaghira :P05:58
St0n3-C0li also found in the site :>05:58
crimmyskel_home: np05:58
St0n3-C0lJormundgand: Thanks :)05:59
pfpJ35U5: good. Esound / ESD can be a good choice too, to let other apps share the card05:59
DonLIs bhagira available for Gnome?05:59
JormundgandSt0n3-C0l: Baghira is the name of the panther from the Jungle Book.05:59
garnertrthanks; gotta blast...05:59
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St0n3-C0lyeah05:59
St0n3-C0l:P05:59
JormundgandDonL: No :( If you want to make it for GNOME I'm all for it.05:59
St0n3-C0lDisney Channel Rocks :P05:59
gizmoJormundgand:  For real?05:59
Davey|Ubuntuanyone here migrated from Thunderbird Win -> Thunderbird Linux?05:59
St0n3-C0llol06:00
St0n3-C0lyes06:00
St0n3-C0l:)06:00
JormundgandDavey|Work: Yep! Diehard Thunderbird user.06:00
JormundgandDavey|Ubuntu*06:00
St0n3-C0lI used once on windows06:00
gizmoSo... KDE on Ubuntu is Kbuntu?06:00
Jormundgandgizmo: Kubuntu.06:00
DonLDavey|Ubuntu, how's it work under Windows. My boss wants to know06:00
danko123456kUbuntu:)06:00
gizmoAhhh, ok.06:00
St0n3-C0lDonl: Works well with XP06:00
JormundgandHence the regexp to refer to both of them, (Ku|U)buntu.06:01
naliothif y'all are bored check out the weather for Houston, tx06:01
DonLHow's the spam stuff work?06:01
naliothwe're in a shi*storm here06:01
Davey|UbuntuDonL: its awesome :)06:01
Davey|UbuntuDonL: great after its trained :)06:01
_jah_i download the gDesklets06:01
_jah_and now i need help setting it up06:01
DonLThat's what I needed to know. Thanks a bunch06:01
Davey|UbuntuDonL: my wife, who is an art geek, loves Thunderbird :)06:01
gizmoAnyone here using Kubuntu?06:01
_jah_can someone help me?06:01
Davey|Ubuntugizmo: there is a #kubuntu :)06:01
danko123456there is a #kubuntu I hear it is dead.06:01
killapopgizmo: im on kubuntu06:01
danko123456_jah_: yes, we all likely can.06:01
danko123456did you want us to?06:01
Davey|Ubuntu_jah_: Whats up? I have issues too06:02
gizmokillapop:  Is it a stable derivative?06:02
Davey|Ubuntu_jah_: find the Applications > Accessories > gDesklets stuff yet?06:02
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Jormundgandgizmo: Kubuntu is stable, but it lacks the integration of Ubuntu.06:02
_jah_i want to get some of the desklets to show up06:02
killapopgizmo: yuss. i've been on it for about a week. no crashes06:02
danko123456_jah_: oh, setting up gdesklets, I havent got taht far, I just installed it so  far:)06:02
_jah_i went in to gdesklets and selected some and went to run selected06:02
_jah_and ti doesn't show06:02
_jah_it*06:02
Jormundgandgizmo: It needs to split from Ubuntu and set up its own set of repositories.06:03
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JormundgandThen it could make decisions independently.06:03
BurgundaviaJormundgand, no it doesn't, that is mad06:03
IcemanV9_jah_: gdesklets_data is broken .. uninstall it and install it manually from gdesklets website06:03
St0n3-C0lis there any way to enable direct rendering in my linux box ?06:03
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gizmoJormundgand:  So its a bit more complicated than Ubuntu with KDE 3.4 thrown in, eh?06:03
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Burgundaviagizmo, Kubuntu is merely Ubuntu with Kde, instead of Gnome06:03
JormundgandBurgundavia: That's my opinion, anyhow.06:03
_jah_ohh06:03
danko123456Jormundgand: I like your theory, I wonder if it has anything to do with reality, tho...06:03
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dooglusdoes anyone use a 2-screen setup with ubuntu?06:03
_jah_how do I uninstall in ubuntu?06:03
danko123456Burgundavia: it can not merely be that,..06:03
dooglus_jah_: use synaptic06:04
BurgundaviaDanglyBits, it is06:04
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Burgundaviadanko123456, it is06:04
_jah_ok06:04
vince_hello! does anyone have an Olympus Stylus 300 digital camera that was recognized as such (and not as a storage device) in ubuntu? I would really love to import my photos in linux... Thanks!06:04
danko123456Burgundavia: cause, kde uses kapps, and gnome uses gapps,. they are all different apps...06:04
IcemanV9_jah_: sudo apt-get remove <application>06:04
Burgundaviadanko123456, the repos are the same, the packages are the same, the developers are the same06:04
DonLI tried to install KDE on Warty, and had a heck of a time doing it. Everything looked wrong. I ended up uninstalling it, and that was a nightmare06:04
St0n3-C0lcocaine: LOL I WANT SOME :P06:04
BurgundaviaDonL, Warty did not have Kubuntu yet06:04
dooglusdanko123456: you can install and run 'kapps' in GNOME, and 'gapps' in KDE...06:04
St0n3-C0ljus wanna try :>06:04
danko123456vince_: just plugging it in should bring up a dialog asking if you want to inmport photos, are you using gnome?06:04
cocaineSt0n3-C0l, shut the fuck up06:05
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DonLBurgundavia, no, but it had the ability to install KDE06:05
cocainefucking crack head06:05
St0n3-C0lmummyy06:05
St0n3-C0l:P06:05
BurgundaviaDonL, it did06:05
danko123456haha06:05
vince_danko123456, yes, it brings it up, but if I do File/Import in gThumb, it tells me no camera found...06:05
BurgundaviaSt0n3-C0l, please remember the Ubuntu code of conduct06:05
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St0n3-C0ldankol123456: can I msg u06:05
Burgundaviacocaine, you as well06:05
St0n3-C0lme ?06:05
danko123456well, hm...is there a /media/usbdisk?06:05
DonLThat's okay... The more I play with Gnome, the more I like it06:05
St0n3-C0lalright :)06:05
cocaineBurgundavia, yes sir.06:06
vince_so it's quite inconvenient. gThumb remembers the camera as a folder, and doesn't load the pictures if the camera's not plugged in06:06
danko123456St0n3-C0l: yeah, if you have something to say...06:06
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QMarioWhy is there an error in MPLAYER of that there are too many video packets in the buffer?06:06
danko123456vince_: please connect the camera, and do ls /media/usbdisk06:06
QMarioI am trying to watch The Lion King.06:06
vince_danko123456, ok, just a sec06:06
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_jah_ok so i goto http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/  and download what from there?06:07
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_jah_http://www.pycage.de/download/gdesklets/gDesklets-0.34.3.tar.bz2 ?06:08
vince_danko123456, well, it does mount it properly, I see one folder dcim06:08
_jah_some one can please help me?06:08
IcemanV9_jah_: you already installed the base gdesklets .. look for sensor that you want to use06:08
danko123456cool,06:08
_jah_but you told me it was broken06:08
danko123456dcim is the right folder, ls that one.06:08
_jah_and i removed it06:09
dooglusis it possible to have a "notification area" on 2 different displays at the same time?  it doesn't seem to want to work for me06:09
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IcemanV9_jah_: yeah. gdesklet-data (ubuntu package) is broken.06:09
vince_danko123456, but the dialogue that pops up only asks "Import photos from device", with no options like delete from camera...06:09
_jah_ohh06:09
danko123456you need to do it manually, the interface is different....pm me for a brief intro.06:09
QMarioWhy is there an error in MPLAYER of that there are too many video packets in the buffer?06:10
_jah_so i got back and do sudo apt-get install gdesklets and then gotot he website and download the different sensors and things i want06:10
IcemanV9_jah_: not from gdesklets website ... you'll have to download one of those sensors that you want to use06:10
_jah_and added it06:10
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IcemanV9_jah_: u got it, pal :)06:10
_jah_ye and i made alot of typos06:10
_jah_thanks06:10
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thechitowncubsIs there any way to get Rhythmbox to load a large library?06:11
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thechitowncubsIt never works for me.06:11
thechitowncubsmy library is about 7,000 songs06:11
St0n3-C0l7,000 songs :P06:12
dr_willisthats ALMOST enough to fill an ipod!@06:12
dr_willis:p06:12
DonLoff for the night. See ya later, folks06:12
JormundgandDoes anyone else agree that OpenOffice.org has a silly name compared to something like KOffice which keeps a sense of identity?06:12
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raDeonJormundgand, no.06:13
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pfpi've never liked .org part06:13
raDeonJormundgand, i strongly disagree with that statement06:13
JormundgandBecause KOffice is made up of KWord, KSpread, KPresent...there's a sense of togetherness about it. Compare with "OpenOffice.org Word Processor"... it's not a name, it's a description.06:13
dooglusJormundgand: koffice sounds like a throat medicine to me06:13
QMarioIs vlc better at playing DVDs than Totem or Mplayer?06:13
raDeonQMario, no.06:13
transgressQMario: i prefer it06:13
transgressit skips a lot less for me06:14
raDeonit's a matter of taste06:14
QMarioWhat is the best player for DVDs?06:14
hardcampa-Ogle is probably best at dvds then xine and or vlc06:14
transgresswell compared to totem06:14
raDeonQMario, windows media player06:14
_jah_how do i add more icons to the starterbar06:14
Seqi prefer totem06:14
raDeontotem is the shiznit06:14
pfpi prefer totem and the assorted mishmash of plugins06:14
hardcampa-totem support dvd menus?06:14
pfpyes06:15
QMarioRaDeon, I meant in Ubuntu.06:15
hardcampa-with same plugin as xine I guess then pfp06:15
raDeonQMario, keep the R lowercase please.06:15
Seqhardcampa-: it can, i beleive. but i prefer it because it doesn't have to06:15
thechitowncubsAnyone have an answer?06:15
pfptotem-xine, yep06:15
JormundgandraDeon: You sound like me when I used the name "XinuX". I got bitchy when people spelt it "Xinux".06:15
raDeonthechitowncubs, yes06:15
hardcampa-Seq I get that, only sometimes you need to access those menues06:15
thechitowncubsor is large library support a no no06:16
raDeonJormundgand, congratulations, i am happy for your anecdotal idiocy.06:16
Seqhardcampa-: haven't had that come up yet, personally anyway06:16
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QMarioSorry, raDeon. :-D06:16
raDeonQMario, no problems at all, but the emperor is not as forgiving as me06:17
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nernhello there06:17
Seqthechitowncubs: i'd google it, its likely not ubuntu specific if large libraries don't work06:17
raDeonnern, wtf u want06:17
nernnothing06:17
danko123456he is joking, nern.06:17
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nerni know i know06:17
raDeonam i?06:17
nern:)06:17
danko123456ghe keeps having these absurd jokes...06:17
raDeonhahahaha that's because i am clinically insane06:18
nernnice06:18
danko123456regardless of whether you are, it is better for us to say you are:)06:18
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raDeonlicense to kill, i do believe06:18
nerni just switched to ubuntu like a week ago06:18
atomicstardustI just installed this (Ubuntu) on my laptop and I love it. I used to run RedHat 7,8,9 and Fedora core 2 and 3, and suse 8, and this has thus far impressed me.06:18
Ryan_Uhm, im not sure if any of you guys can help me, but ive got a problem and i know that the people in here are freindly and know alot in there fields but ive got a problem :-\06:18
raDeonnern, let me get a high-five06:18
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raDeonmay i say that you've made an excellent choice06:19
JormundgandRyan_: Go see the genitourinary clinic. They're specialists in dealing with "problems".06:19
nate__i know there is kdm, and there is gdm, but is there one thats native to xfce?06:19
Jormundgandnate__: Technically xdm, but that sucks.06:19
nerngdm would be yer best bet06:19
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nernsince it is gtk based also06:19
SeqRyan_: whats the issue?06:19
nate__Jormundgand: i'm just sick of xfce asking me for my password when i want to shut down06:19
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nernyeah that would be annoying06:20
nernthats weird though06:20
Ryan_lol Jormundgand, unfortunatly its to do with my HDD. I think its got a corrupt sector in it if thats the correct term. basicly when ever it gets to a certain part of it i hear it clicking like its jumping, then my screen frezes and i get the blue screen of death06:20
nerni installed xfce also and it never did that06:20
nate__nern: i think its that xfce isn't native to gdm, not sure though06:20
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danko123456Ryan_: nice:)06:20
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nerni donno06:20
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danko123456I have a bad hard on my hands too...:) it suck, tho, I dont even feel like fixing it...06:21
naliothRyan_: you get a BSOD on ubuntu?06:21
nate__nern: in theory it makes sense though, shutting down is a root action, so sudo would be required06:21
nate__nern: but its annoying06:21
nernyeah06:21
naliothRyan_: your HD is on its death throes06:21
Ryan_im actually running Dows xp :( i litrally just finished downloading ubuntu live/dvd about a min ago06:21
naliothRyan_: save what you can quickly and buy a new one06:21
atomicstardustI don't really know too much about linux but over the yeras I've picked up enough to know the basic structure. Is there a particularly good book or resource that would assist me and would apply to ubuntu as well?06:21
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nate__anyone had the issue with xfce where it asks you for a pword to shutdown?06:22
Ryan_nalioth, ive got a 5 year warranty. cost me 500, the feckers at compaq can send me a free on :)06:22
Jormundgandnate__: yes.06:22
SeqRyan_: i was going to suggest tailing kernel output, but you can't do that in windows :p06:22
naliothatomicstardust: any good linux book will help you06:22
Ryan_:(06:22
naliothRyan_: then get to writing06:22
naliothRyan_: but save your stuff (pR0n takes a long time to collect)06:22
SeqRyan_: i'd say try burning important stuff to cds before you try playing around with it06:23
Ryan_nalioth, ive got the day off college. im going to take care of it today ;O06:23
nate__Jormundgand: any fix for it?06:23
SeqRyan_: but you might just want to get a new drive (or test the drive in another machine as well)06:23
Jormundgandnate__: besides screwing your system up, no.06:23
atomicstardustnalioth, does it have to be debian related or can it be a book for redhat06:23
naliothRyan_: as seq said, burn off your valuable (pR0n) data b4 dealing further06:23
nerni have a craptastic 5400rpm 40GB drive sitting right next to me06:23
nate__Jormundgand: how so?06:23
danko123456atomicstardust: pm...06:23
naliothatomicstardust: the general usage is the same for all linux06:23
Ryan_ill take it out later and remove the caseing to see if its anything like dust (god knows how it got thru the caseing)06:23
Jormundgandnate__: I was messing around, did a server install and installed xorg separately in an attempt to get xfce on its own (Xubuntu?) and it didn't ask, but the system was f*cked.06:24
naliothatomicstardust: and even reading about rpms and such can be enlightening06:24
nate__Jormundgand: heh, ok, yeah, no thanks06:24
SeqRyan_: uhh, don't remove the casing on the hard disk06:24
Ryan_nalioth, i burn all porn to disc anyway. Too much for one hard drive im afrais :P06:24
danko123456nalioth: funny...the pr0n parts...:)06:24
Ryan_seq: why not06:24
naliothatomicstardust: regardless of what you're thinking, sometimes you have to interact with a rpm here in debian land06:24
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nate__Jormundgand: figured it was cuz it wasn't native, no worries, its just annoying06:24
Ryan_just to inspect if theres any visable damage to it06:24
danko123456atomicstardust: PM!:)06:24
Ryan_if there isnt im demanding a new one06:24
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naliothRyan_: a wise choice (keeps snoops from find it easily)06:24
nerni go out of my way to never touch rpms06:24
SeqRyan_: you'll almost certainly mess up the alignment06:24
nernha06:24
nernhow come ubuntu is mean about using alternate repos?06:25
Ryan_alignment? im only takeing the metal boxing off the hdd. not totally stripping it down :-\06:25
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atomicstardustnanlioth, thank you, I think I understand now.06:25
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SeqRyan_: and no manufacturer in their right mind would replace a drive under warranty that looked like it has been opened06:25
Jormundgandnern: Because NON-OFFICIAL DEBS ARE IMPURE. >:O06:25
crimmynern: because supporting them is a pain.06:25
naliothRyan_: i agree don't mess with it at all. call compaqs WonderFul customer svc and ask them what to do06:25
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naliothRyan_: otw, you may void warranty06:26
Ryan_ok seq ill take your advice. ill ask if i can get a new one sent out. i just hope they dont bloody want me to send my laptop away so they can inspect it themselves06:26
naliothRyan_: its in a lappy?06:26
naliothRyan_: say goodbye for a while06:26
SeqRyan_: the spindle the platters sit on screws into the top and the bottom of the drive. you must undo the top to take the casing off (at least all of my book-ends were like this)06:26
Ryan_last time i had a problem with the CPU, and the power supply. The retard at tech support just wouldnt listen06:26
Ryan_nalioth, yes06:27
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nerni need a new cpu06:27
SeqRyan_: i've read of too many people trying to replace the top of their hard disks with clear plexiglass for case mods, and their drives never work afterwards06:27
Ryan_nern, ive had 2 new cpu's for this lappy. its always haveing problems with them06:27
SeqRyan_: yeah, i've been having issues with my laptop for a while too06:27
naliothRyan_: one of my clients kids has a HP lappy with a prob i could fix in 5 minutes onsite. however it's under warranty and the parents would rather send it off for 3 weeks06:28
nerndont you hate that06:28
naliothRyan_: to solve future probs with lappys, buy yourself an iBook06:28
SeqRyan_: they've replaced my motherboard three times and the lcd once (over three calls -- next one is a direct replacement. finally)06:28
Ryan_nalioth, thats exatly what i hate. sending it off and haveing geeky bastards searching for porn so they can back it up for free06:28
danko123456Seq: nice....06:29
Ryan_ibook? thats apple aint it?06:29
nernthis lady at work was telling me how she took her computer to a computer repair guy and paid like 200 dollars for him to "clean up" her system and install a new cd drive(not even a burner)06:29
dr_willisheh.06:29
Seqnalioth: so you can have the logic board die? I've never heard of any model of laptop that will be completely issue free06:29
danko123456nern: yup, standard rip-off procedure...06:29
Ryan_seq, ive had new cpu, then new mobo, then another new cpu, new charger, and something else06:29
Ryan_cant remember06:29
nernits sad06:29
Seqnern: future shop here has a $75 "computer checkup" :D06:30
danko123456nern: did you tell her you would have installed a hard disk ;) for that much??06:30
danko123456Seq: future shop is only in canada, right?06:30
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Seqdanko123456: yeah, but its best buy. same deal06:30
_kevinwhats the short cut to take a screenshot06:30
Seqbut on commission!06:30
danko123456I kno, I live here too:)06:30
naliothRyan_: yes iBooks can be had under $999usd (or cheaper, if ya have the student discount)06:30
_kevini jus customized my desktop and wnana take a pic of it06:30
nernwell i told he she could have bought a dvd burner for under a hundred bucks and i could have easily installed that and then she could have burned all important data to a dvd and then reformatted06:30
danko123456Seq: which city?06:31
Seqdanko123456: London, you?06:31
_kevinwhile i play with gdesklet06:31
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danko123456_kevin: is it gnome?06:31
_kevinye06:31
danko123456seq, winnipef.06:31
St0n3-C0lLondon is in Canada :P06:31
_kevinthis _jah_06:31
nernman i love gnome06:31
St0n3-C0lI heard it's in England06:31
St0n3-C0l:P06:31
nerni switched to it when i switched to ubuntu06:31
_kevinbut my normal nick is _kevin06:31
nernand i am now mad that i ever used kde06:31
Ryan_is ubuntu 5.04-dvd i386.iso meant to be 2.74gb ?? just to make sure ive dl it all06:31
naliothhate to break this news, but London is in Kentucky06:31
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SeqSt0n3-C0l: 'New London' is also taken, so i guess you gotta settle with something06:32
danko123456ah, well, you go System, Take Screenshot, alt+f1 to open the first menu, then twice to the right arrow, and then down arrow, and select take screenshot.06:32
Ryan_because when the tracker went down i ended up wasteing about 10 dvd's burning it and trying to make the fecker boot06:32
nerni live in ky06:32
Seqdanko123456: i was there in summer 2003. Great city :)06:32
disquiethullo06:32
danko123456is anyone gonna throw a comment about KFC?06:32
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danko123456hi.06:32
danko123456thanks, not too bad:)06:32
Seqdanko123456: granted only there for about eleven hours, but meh06:32
danko123456A lot of ppl complain, tho..06:32
danko123456hehe...06:32
St0n3-C0lbrb06:32
IcemanV9Ryan_: just md5sum the iso file to be sure. that's all you need.06:33
Ryan_IcemanV9, uhm. how do i do that. i have the hash but ive always wondered wtf its for06:33
nerni cant run the UT2004 linux installer for some reason06:33
disquietI think... I am realizing that I may just be too stupid for linux06:33
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danko123456disquiet: thats weird...06:34
Seqalright, time for the nightly "find ac adapter in next three minutes" dance06:34
disquietI'm getting ready to pitch my computer out the window and get a pretty colored plastic mac06:34
nerneverybody has to start somewhere06:34
IcemanV9Ryan_: md5sum <filename>.iso06:34
nerni hate macs06:34
danko123456disquiet: ya, me too, but then I think abiout how that would be giving up, and meek...06:34
Ryan_IcemanV9, where to i input it??06:34
naliothRyan_: in your case, you06:34
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nalioth'll need to d/l a windoze widget to find md5s06:34
Ryan_sorry IcemanV9 ive never really done this before06:34
claymac is the place to be06:34
disquietI promised a friend I would do this linux dealie, to help increase the number of decently attractive female nerds06:34
naliothIcemanV9: ryan only has windoze06:34
disquietI'm ready to quit already and it's been 24 hours06:35
Ryan_:(06:35
nernits a super sexy resource hog06:35
Jormundganddisquiet: What is the problem?06:35
IcemanV9Ryan_: you're on windows .. which mades sense. ha. sorry.06:35
naliothdisquiet: decently attractive?06:35
danko123456disquiet: well, what are you seeing issues with?06:35
disquietIt just seems to be one problem after another. I just don't know how to DO anything, and I think I can learn06:35
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disquietbut can't find someplace that explains things easily to me06:35
IcemanV9Ryan_: you'll need to d/l md5sum version for windows. search for it via google.06:35
Ryan_2.74 gigs. is that the file size. cant find it on the site so just wondering if it is that so i can burn it and boot up06:35
geetergodwhen I go to use apt-get i get this message...06:35
geetergodW: Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-extras/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net_dists_hoary-extras_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)06:35
geetergodW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems06:35
disquietWell, first of all, I just got it up and running so I want it to be the way I like it. I'm very computer picky.06:35
naliothdisquiet: if you start galeon, the start page will lead you to 'local documentation'06:36
disquietFirst, don't kill me, but I don't like firefox.06:36
raDeonstfu06:36
danko123456well, it takes time...06:36
bob2geetergod: don't use backports06:36
danko123456I dont like it neither...06:36
raDeonyou are not allowed to dislike firefox06:36
naliothdisquiet: firefox blows06:36
danko123456haha06:36
geetergoddont use backports?06:36
disquietI like opera06:36
danko123456ok, use that...06:36
raDeonopera is for fat people06:36
geetergodI was just trying to install Flashplayer for Firefox06:36
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Ryan_ohhh, another thing. a .ISO once fully downloaded is it supposed to have an icon on dows for that format or should it just come up as an unrecognisable program?06:36
J35U5konquerer06:36
TouruOpera is awesome.06:36
disquietright, I want to use opera, but once I download the file, I can't install it. Because.... I'm not that smart.06:36
geetergodbut the message comes up a lot when i try to install stuff06:36
danko123456I dont know why, but the guy actually amuses me, I like most the jokes, what abotu you others.??06:37
disquietI'm just windows-spoiled06:37
naliothdisquiet: if you become a linux geek(ette) your system will never be "complete" cuz you'll always be tweakin for better (performance, looks, etc)06:37
bob2geetergod: did you forget to run 'sudo apt-get update'06:37
danko123456disquiet: for installing anything...pretty much....06:37
disquietI'm used to everything being obvious and done for me06:37
raDeoni like my jokes06:37
Seqsince when is opera taboo?06:37
danko123456you need to change the file at the position /etc/apt/sources.list to look like this...06:37
naliothRyan_: prob unrecognizable06:37
geetergodjust type 'sudo apt-get update' in terminal correct?06:37
danko123456www.mts.net/~danb/sources.list06:37
naliothRyan_: get you a md5 wanger from www.freewarehome.com06:37
Ryan_thanks nalioth  ;)06:37
disquietnalioth, I don't mind that at all, I'm totally a closet geek. It's just really different than what I'm used to06:37
bob2geetergod: yes06:37
danko123456disquiet: read those posts, please^^06:37
naliothdisquiet: it can be made to look almost exactly like you're used to06:38
disquietI am reading danko06:38
Ryan_right im going to burn this disc. 11th time lucky06:38
danko123456k, so, change that file, usiong perhaps sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list06:38
danko123456and make it like that.06:38
disquietnalioth, I don't need it to be exactly like Windows. I'm just having trouble with the fact that my computer doesn't hold my hand anymore.06:38
naliothdisquiet: you will be amazed as you learn, how much freedom you have to have a system that is what YOU want06:38
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Tourudanko123456: Can't you also do that easily with Synaptic?06:38
IcemanV9hope it's a 'RW' disc06:38
geetergodhow do i restart Firefox? simply closing out the browser and opening it again?06:38
danko123456Then you will have all the ubuntu repositories enabled, and you need to do sudo apt-get update06:39
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bob2geetergod: close all the windows, yes06:39
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nernmay i ask why you got the dvd? are you not sure that you want to install it and want to try it out as a live cd first?06:39
geetergodk06:39
danko123456Touru: dunno, never almost yuse it...06:39
naliothdisquiet: yes, losing the handholding is different at first, but you'll get past it06:39
danko123456I know you can, actually, i dunno how, tho.06:39
Seqdisquiet: so.. you switched to linux.. because your friend asked?06:39
disquietok, danko, thanks06:39
Cy|HyperStill having wifi problems06:39
disquietSeq - he thought I would like it06:39
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danko123456disquiet: that is only a part f it.06:39
TouruYeah, I'm sure you can. 's terribly easily.06:39
Dr_Melectausim so dam excited :D06:39
danko123456then, you update as I said tehre.06:39
disquietAnd I assume I eventually will.06:39
Dr_Melectausliberation from windows06:39
naliothdisquiet: may i recommend the galeon web browser?06:39
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danko123456from there on...it is all fun and games.06:39
danko123456disquiet: did you notice synaptic yet?06:39
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Seqdisquiet: i've been planning on guerilla installs next time i do my "hey, come hang out -- and bring adaware" calls06:40
TouruBut Opera isn't in any of the Ubuntu repositories, anyway.06:40
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geetergodFlash still doesnt work on the Doom3 page06:40
disquiethang on, I'm getting a bit overwhelmed, let me scroll up and make myself understand some stuff06:40
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danko123456Touru: isnt????????06:40
geetergodwhere can i test that it works?06:40
danko123456serious???06:40
Seqapparently i've been going about things all wrong06:40
nernim trying to leave windows completely, but i keep it around for dvd shrink. i havent found an equally convient way to copy dvds.06:40
Tourudanko123456: Nope. I think you have to grab  it from the Opera site.06:40
naliothdisquiet: you keep up the guerilla mindset06:40
Seqdanko123456: opera isn't Free software06:40
beginneris any posibility to set a better conection to internet06:40
disquietSeq - my friends just badgered me saying "ONE OF US ONE OF US"06:40
TouruI just installed Ubuntu early this week, so I haven't messed with it that much.06:40
disquietuntil I admitted my nerdery06:41
thechitowncubsCan you encode local files not on a cd w/ Grip?06:41
beginnerbecause i have this:Failed to fetch http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/ubp/dists/hoary-extras/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  403 Forbidden06:41
danko123456youa re all joking?06:41
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bob2danko123456: how on earth could Opera be in Ubuntu?  It's proprietary, non-dsitributable software.06:41
Cy|HyperHey06:41
Dr_Melectauscan the ubuntu live/dvd be used to partition my hard drive so i can still have a small space for dows?06:41
bob2thechitowncubs: no06:41
Seqdanko123456: what? about opera? no06:41
danko123456I have no clue of that:)06:41
Cy|HyperI'm having trouble with wireless internet06:41
bob2Dr_Melectaus: yes06:41
danko123456I never used that program, in fact:)06:41
Cy|HyperCan anyone help?06:41
thechitowncubsbob2: any gui's that can do that?06:41
nernDR: yes06:41
Dr_Melectausthanks bob206:41
P229bob2, opera distributes linux binaries06:41
geetergodi installed Flashplayer for Firefox yet it still doesnt work06:41
Dr_Melectauscheers nern06:42
bob2P229: yes, but no one else is allowed to06:42
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Dr_Melectaus:O06:42
geetergodIm trying to just view the flash site on doom3.com06:42
naliothDr_Melectaus: if you want to keep such nastiness around, yes06:42
bob2thechitowncubs: don't think so06:42
nernanyone copy dvds in linux?06:42
P229bob2, doesn't mean they don't /me shrugs06:42
JormundgandI'm going to see if I can convert my neighbour - they constantly complain because Windows causes problems for them, so I think I can use that to (my|their) advantage.06:42
Dr_Melectausubuntu, i assume your the creator behind the os??06:42
beginneris any posibility to set a better conection to internet06:42
bob2P229: right...I was addressing danko123456's surprise that it wasn't in Ubuntu06:42
danko123456P229: he said that right off the bat...you joined in a little later...06:42
JormundgandDr_Melectaus: The creator of Linux is Linus Torvalds.06:42
bob2Dr_Melectaus: no, that's some random person who has nothing at all to do with Ubuntu06:42
Dr_Melectausnalioth, no choice im afraid. i do graphics and the like so i need photoshop06:42
disquietI finally hit the end of my rope when I had a virus and windows update was hung up on 92% for 3 days and everything kept crashing06:42
geetergodgeetergod@cpe-66-24-86-121:~$ sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla06:42
geetergodPassword:06:42
geetergodReading package lists... Done06:42
geetergodBuilding dependency tree... Done06:42
geetergodflashplayer-mozilla is already the newest version.06:42
geetergod0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.06:42
disquietOn a nearly new computer06:42
naliothwell time for a nap06:42
danko123456I thought always it is a OS program for some reason..06:42
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geetergoddoes that mean that i have flashplayer installed correctly?06:43
ubuntujhlk06:43
Dr_MelectausJormundgand, i know who created linux. But i was referring to ubuntu06:43
danko123456yes,.06:43
naliothDr_Melectaus: then buy a mac, older models are cheap and very able to run PS06:43
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IcemanV9geetergod: check and see if it is installed via "about:plugin"06:43
ubuntu10-406:43
Dr_Melectausnalioth, i would have more machines if i wernt a 17 year old student with no job :(06:43
danko123456Dr_Melectaus: you were joking too, right???06:43
disquietdoes anyone know of a connection between linux and insomnia? I feel like I haven't slept in days.06:43
geetergodhow do i do that Iceman?06:43
IcemanV9geetergod: and please don't paste it in this channel next time!06:43
Dr_Melectausjokeing about what danko12345606:43
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bob2Dr_Melectaus: you'll never see someone with the same nick as projects they work on06:44
geetergodk sorry06:44
nerni have the makings for a second desktop... minus a processor06:44
danko123456him being the creator just of his nick??06:44
Dr_Melectauslol Touru06:44
Seqgeetergod: i usually just go to a site that needs flash, and click the "install plugin" button in firefox..06:44
naliothdisquiet, i dual booted for about 6 months way back then, and then windoze went permanently away06:44
bob2the only people who do that sort of thing tend to be new users who don't know better06:44
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IcemanV9geetergod: open firefox ... type 'about:plugin' in the address06:44
naliothdisquiet: i've been windoze free for about 5 years now06:44
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disquietI didn't do the dual boot thing, I knew I would give up if I did06:44
Seqnern: bah, you don't need a processor!06:44
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danko123456Dr_Melectaus: you didnt really think he was, did you??06:44
nernlol06:44
disquietoh my, I can download porn better now?06:45
Dr_Melectauslol bob. Like when matrix online was released everyone was comeing up with nicks variating for the The 1 (teh_1, th3_1 the_one ...)06:45
disquietThis just gets better and better.06:45
danko123456I heard someone else say that b4 that is why I ask...06:45
Seqnalioth: congrats on the windows free. im stuck on windows for some school and for work :(06:45
Dr_Melectausdanko123456, wasnt sure tbh :)06:45
danko123456sudo porn-get yup...:)06:45
nernhahaha06:45
disquietI have to use Windows at work, and I work for a techy type company06:45
Jormundganddanko123456: Shall we start the porn-get project?06:45
danko123456Dr_Melectaus: that is awesome, I had seen someone ask the same exact thing b4...06:45
geetergodit does nothing when i enter 'about:plugin' in the addy window06:45
nernYES06:45
naliothseq, i work with windoze all the time for my clients, but my personal machines don't06:45
bob2Dr_Melectaus: yeah, and I bet none of them were the wakowlski brothers or Keanu ;)06:45
danko123456It works, apt-cache search porn-getr06:45
cthulfuegogeetergod: about:plugins - note the 's'06:45
Tourudanko123456: You have to be kiddin.06:46
Tourug.06:46
geetergodsheesh, thanks06:46
disquietI work with the world's most obnoxious program at work all day.06:46
Dr_Melectausyup bob2 :)06:46
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disquietNot even linux could make that better06:46
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Seqnalioth: my home desktop has windows installed so i can play a few games. its horribly out of date since i rarely play games anymore06:46
bob2disquiet: Matlab?06:46
Jormundgandjormundgand@ketsuban:~$ sudo apt-cache search porn06:46
Jormundgandpornview - Image and movie viewer/manager06:46
disquietbob2: SAP06:46
Jormundgand:o :o :o06:46
naliothmac minis are cheap06:46
bob2disquiet: ouch06:46
naliothgoonight all06:46
TouruWhoa.06:46
geetergodsays Shockwave Flash and FutureSplash Player are enabled06:46
Dr_MelectausI guess ill be going to the library and getting some books out on Bash then06:46
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danko123456Touru: serious, about the someone asking a guy with ubuntu as nick about being the creator of ubuntu,...not serious about porn0-get...06:46
nerni dont play that many pc games so i just get the ones that can run natively in linux06:46
bob2it's just an image viewer06:46
naliothdisquiet: welcome and we're here to help06:46
Dr_MelectausI need to learn how to use linux alot06:47
Seqnalioth: i do asp.net stuff at work, so im stuck using visual studio and crap. its horrible, horrible. but if they want to throw money at me for it, who am i to say no06:47
disquietthanks nalioth06:47
Dr_Melectausi really want to get rid of dows06:47
geetergodis that what im looking to see?06:47
Dr_Melectauswell, want to but cant06:47
Tourudanko123456: I was taking abiout the later, haha. Kinda glad to know it's not true... lol06:47
bob2Dr_Melectaus: I hear "linux in a nutshell" is an excellet book06:47
naliothseq, yes horrible, but you get paid06:47
disquietbob2: you're familiar with SAP?06:47
Dr_Melectausunless photoshop decide to do a release for nix06:47
ajmitchafternoon06:47
naliothnight night y'all06:47
Dr_Melectausbob2 ill look into it :) cheers man06:47
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bob2disquiet: only through friends who have to use it at work06:47
bob2Dr_Melectaus: np06:47
disquietbob2: suicidal friends, I assume.06:47
TouruDr_Melectaus: You should just go for it. If you aren't a professional, the GIMP can substitute for PhotoShop perfectly well.06:47
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bob2disquiet: haha06:48
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Touru(If you don't believe me, try Windows GIMP)06:48
bob2disquiet: I think they prefer the term "on the edge" ;)06:48
disquietbob2: that term perfectly describes my life these days. It's my first adult job and I got one week of loose training.06:48
Dr_Melectaussee if i boot with the live dvd can i connect to the net relatively easily? like with my modem i can dial in my simply doing user@isp.com then password06:48
nernyeah i made the mistake of trying to use breezy already06:48
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Dr_Melectauscheers danko123456 ;O06:48
disquietI am the only person in my office who understands SAP even a little, and I've been there the shortest.06:48
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danko123456what is that SAP thing...?? I wonder...Ill google if I want to know enough...06:49
ajmitchnern: that could be unfortunate :)06:49
Jormundgandnern: Join the "we wanted to use Breezy no matter what some stupid channel topic said" club :)06:49
disquietdanko: you don't want to know06:49
nernhahaha06:49
bob2Dr_Melectaus: yeah, run "sudo pppconfig" in a terminal to configure it, then "pon" to connect06:49
TouruWhat exactly is breezy?06:49
Seqdisquiet: what is this SAP?06:49
disquietI work for a tech reseller and I process all of the sales orders, and SAP enters and tracks orders in the least user friendly way possible06:49
Dr_Melectausbob2, cheers ;)06:49
ajmitchTouru: the next release, currently under heavy development06:49
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SeqI had some rough experiences with a package called "Remedy" back in my tech support days.06:49
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disquietthere's 100+ menus... all with the same options.06:50
TouruOoooh, I see.06:50
danko123456Seq: with Convergys/Comcast right?? :)06:50
TouruFigured it was something sortof like thatl.06:50
disquietAnd it's ugly.06:50
luchoalguien q hable espaol06:50
Seqdanko123456: roadrunner06:50
danko123456 #ubuntu-es06:50
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IcemanV9lucho: try #ubuntu-es06:50
luchook06:50
luchothanks06:50
danko123456kk06:50
danko123456welcomeL:)06:50
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disquietwhere did... the whole day go? How long have I been sitting here?06:51
IcemanV9danko123456: *shrug* u beat me by a few seconds :P06:51
nernthats what im saying~!06:51
Seqdanko123456: did you do comcast support?06:51
nernive been sitting here at my computer since i got off work06:51
danko123456I do it now:)06:51
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nernearly this afternoon06:52
Seqdanko123456: fun stuff.06:52
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Seqdanko123456: mind if i send you a PM?06:52
danko123456dont talk about it here more, tho, they are sensitive about proprietary, and I am paranoid:)06:52
danko123456no,. go right ahead.06:52
disquietI have tomorrow off, I'm worried that knowing that, I'll just sit here all night until I figure this all out06:52
JormundgandSo what about that <proprietary software>, eh?06:52
SeqJormundgand: go ahead. the first one's "free" ;)06:53
JormundgandI thought that the <feature> they added in version <newest> was good, but they could have done without <kludge>.06:53
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JormundgandAnd when are they going to remove <tired legacy module>?06:53
disquiethaha y'all are funny06:53
JormundgandFor that matter, does anyone actually USE <function>, or is it just there for decoration?06:54
Dr_MelectausDVD is 94% burnt06:54
Dr_Melectauswhe hey06:54
nernWUH OH06:54
Dr_Melectauscant wait to have a bash on ubuntu06:54
Dr_Melectauscan you download new themes off the net?06:54
SeqJormundgand: i thought <feature> would be useful if it didn't break <everything>06:54
nernDr_Melectaus: get ready to have yer mind blown06:54
quailstera bash? I prefer a zsh ;)06:54
JormundgandSeq: Indeed, <workaround> is a pain to get working, but it saves so much time in the end.06:54
bob2Dr_Melectaus: bash themes? yeah.06:54
disquietok, i have another real question06:55
nernshoot06:55
Dr_Melectauscheers bob2, any reccomendations on good sites to get themes from?06:55
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disquietA friend told me I need to get valknut, said do sudo apt-get valknut06:55
luchoalguien me ayuda06:55
disquietwhich... seeems logical...06:55
bob2Dr_Melectaus: hm, I don't know06:55
geetergodcan someone walk me through how to download and install a plugin for flashplayer?06:55
bob2I use zsh.06:55
nerndisquiet apt-get INSTALL06:56
disquietno joke?06:56
geetergodim at a site where it should play a video but says i need to download plugin06:56
nerngeetergod open up synaptic and search for flash06:56
disquietReading package lists... Done06:56
disquietBuilding dependency tree... Done06:56
disquietE: Couldn't find package valknut06:56
disquietwhat in the world does that mean?06:57
Dr_Melectauskk, im going to reboot and see if i can get this to work. If its Doc proof you guys have made a truely idiot freindly OS06:57
thr1cesomeone needs to make a human fluxbox theme06:57
SeqDr_Melectaus: art.gnome.org , gnomelook.org06:57
nerndisquiet: what is that package supposed to be for again?06:57
geetergodsays i need to run it as a rootuser06:57
bob2disquiet: exactly what it says, the package valknut could not be found06:57
disquietit's DC++... direct connect06:57
Dr_Melectausthanks seq06:57
disquietbob2, please, let's assume I'm an idiot here06:57
Dr_Melectaustah rah06:57
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geetergodwhere do i go to run it as the root user?06:57
danko123456geetergod: please tell me the site.06:57
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ajmitchdisquiet: valknut appears to be in universe, so you need to have that repository enabled06:57
disquietI'm going to throw up.06:58
nerngeetergod: open a terminal and type sudo synaptic06:58
geetergodhttp://www.planetvids.com/html/Top-Speed-Challenge.html06:58
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geetergodthats the site06:58
danko123456thanks.06:58
Marble2how can I get JRE running with firefox?06:58
danko123456geetergod: flash wont work for that.06:58
Marble2when I go to this one page, it says I need to install JRE, but it's already installed (apt-get)06:58
bob2disquiet: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto explains how to enable the universe repository06:58
geetergodoh06:58
danko123456geetergod: you may try mplayer-firefox I think that is the package.06:58
disquietThank you, bob206:58
danko123456bob2: I think he has all the repos...06:59
disquietbrb, I'm going to go take off all my make up and get into serious nerd gear, maybe it will help.06:59
danko123456disquiet: did you make your sources.list as I linked you??06:59
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danko123456Marble2: please link me to the site.06:59
disquietit scrolled away from me, danko :-/06:59
JormundgandI am surprised that I don't find it weird to be wearing a duvet.06:59
geetergodi found flashplayer-mozilla in synaptic06:59
bob2disquiet: (repository = a big group of packages you can tell apt-get about)06:59
Marble2danko123456: pokerroom.com07:00
danko123456sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list07:00
Marble2you have to have an account07:00
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danko123456 www.mts.net/~danb/sources.list07:00
geetergodyet flashplayer still wont work, hm07:00
Marble2but it just says additional plugins required07:00
danko123456disclaimer: that etlls you nothing about what you are doing, so reading bobs link may be a good reading.07:00
danko123456geetergod: that site does not want flash, as I had mentioned.07:01
disquietI can't keep up with you, danko07:01
disquietI opened that dealie07:01
geetergodyes i know, but when i go to doom3.com and try to enter flashsite it wont pull up the whole page07:01
nerndanko: does he need to uncomment the marillat repo?07:01
danko123456sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list07:01
disquietI did that07:01
danko123456www.mts.net/~danb/sources.list paste that page over it.07:02
danko123456nern: who?07:02
danko123456geetergod: http://www.planetvids.com/html/Top-Speed-Challenge.html does not want flash...07:02
danko123456link me to the other site.07:02
nerndanko: the guy yer helping, i just noticed that the marillat repo is commented in that sources.list07:02
danko123456Marble2: my java does work, I am not sure how to see if taht is what the site wants...07:02
JormundgandHmm. Why does my scrollbutton die randomly in Firefox?07:02
geetergodyes i know, what can i do to view the vids though?07:02
danko123456nern: that will be fine.07:02
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nerndanko: k07:03
danko123456just a sec.07:03
BurgundaviaJormundgand, I have seen that as well. I have no idea, and have not filed a bug becuase I have no idea what is causing it07:03
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danko123456http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre for Marble2...or, a slightly harder, but more teaching way is www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/java07:03
danko123456geetergod: 1\this is the plugin it wants, altho I dont know if it works in the end, supposedly it does: http://ubuntuguide.org/#mplayer07:04
danko123456disquiet: save as my file?07:05
danko123456save and close...07:05
geetergodk kool07:05
disquietdanko, I am sorry07:05
disquietI am much too dense for you to help me07:05
danko123456sorry dont cut it.07:05
danko123456nope you are now.07:05
danko123456not07:05
danko123456I work tech syupport for an ISP...07:05
danko123456ok, does sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list open a file?07:05
disquietyes07:05
nernhes giving you a pretty good step by step07:06
danko123456great, please click on this: www.mts.net/~danb/sources.list and copy and paste that over that file07:06
disquietI know he is, which is why I feel quite retarded. I do appreciate it danko :-)07:06
danko123456copy and paste what is in www.mts.net/~danb/sources.list over the file taht opens with sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list ,07:06
disquietover eveyrthing?07:06
danko123456then, I am sorry if I make you feel retarded:) not my intention...07:06
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nernyes over everything07:07
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danko123456then after you have what is in that page as your file...please save it and close gedit.07:07
disquietOk, that's not so hard07:08
danko123456after that...07:08
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danko123456when teh file is saved and closed.07:08
danko123456you need to reload yoru sources.07:08
geetergoddanko: can i tell you what its saying in a private window?07:08
danko123456please everyone, dont ask me if you can pm me anymoer, you are welcome to...07:09
paringassorry, guys, do you know if it possible to make konqueror function in Midnight Commander" mode (split screen)? maybe in a form of extension? thanks07:09
danko123456that file, btw is what the debian/ubuntu installer program uses as the sources from where it downloads...07:09
crimmyparingas: yep, just change the View07:09
disquietreload sources?07:09
deFryskparingas, yes07:09
danko123456yes, you do that by using the program for downlaods.07:10
danko123456apt-get update07:10
danko123456but you need to use sudo in front.07:10
danko123456so sudo apt-get update07:10
deFryskparingas, if you like 2pane in kde get krusader07:10
danko123456do that now, please.07:10
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disquietno sweat (I'm totally going to bake you cupcakes)07:11
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danko123456I have been offered bajkings b4 on this channel:)07:12
disquietWell, fine. I'll get you a damn pony then.07:12
disquietEveryone wants a pony. I, personally, always wanted a big wheel.07:12
danko123456no, Im fine with bakings, I jsut noted that I have had someone say something like that b4, I think it is cute in some sense...07:13
disquietWell, damn, danko, I am cute. Ok, my source thing is done.07:14
Seqi think a giant hamster ball would be cool.07:14
danko123456are you the girl now, disquiet?07:14
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danko123456or still her friend?07:14
disquietSeq - I have a great big one, for my guinea pig07:14
disquietdanko - am I THE girl? i'm A girl...07:14
danko123456you are:)07:14
danko123456sweet:007:14
Seqdisquiet: its not quite human-sized though, is it?07:14
nernoh god07:14
nernha07:14
disquietSeq - well, for a very small human, maybe.07:14
danko123456anyhow:)... updated?07:14
MadpilotI've often thought that kid-sized hamster balls would be a great idea...07:14
paringasdefrysk: crimmy: thanks guys. the reason i was asking was that i want to make konqueror do all of that opera can plus the file manager :)07:14
disquietYes, danko07:15
danko123456ok, well, what are you trying to install?07:15
tyreanexcuse me, does anybody know if its possible to use scim to directly input into firefox?07:15
bob2Madpilot: stick a generator on them and convert youthful exuberance to electricity!07:15
disquietvalknut, opera - two things that I need to have first. Other things later.07:15
Seqactually, harnessing static electricity from enfants as they crawl over carpet would be pretty cool07:16
danko123456you guys are all nuts.07:16
holycowcan anyone explain to me why linux doesn't write to a floppy automatically when you paste something into it, instead it writes on umount?07:16
JormundgandBurgundavia: Bug report has already been made - https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=196207:16
disquietSeq - my guinea pig has a harness, too. And he's trained to ring a bell when he needs something.07:16
Madpilotbob2: I've got a pair of younger cousins who'd be able to power half a town... :)07:16
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hyphenatedholycow: it writes on sync. it syncs on unmount, but you can force a sync manually07:16
Seqholycow: write buffering. it actually writes on sync, and does a sync on umount07:16
danko123456disquiet: sorry, there is no such program in the repos...I think you need to switch to linux apps now...07:16
danko123456a dc++ client?07:16
disquietYes, danko07:17
bob2holycow: of you mount it with the "sync" option, it will write synchronously, ie as you write07:17
holycowah, so it would be possible then to get nautilus to sync after mouse up on a drag/drop or paste event?07:17
danko123456sudo apt-get install dcgui07:17
holycowbob2, oh!07:17
nerndirect connect or gtk gnutella07:17
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holycowthanks for the info, i had no clue about that07:17
bob2holycow: assuming it works on vfat, but I'm pretty sure it does in modern kernels07:18
danko123456why: http://pastebin.ca/12938 ??07:18
hyphenatedI didn't know about the sync option :-)07:18
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hardcampa-Unfortunally dcgui-qt is probably the best (non banned) dc++ client for linux. But oh my gawd how the GUI sux07:18
Seqactually, any mac hardware guys here? what interface does a mac floppy drive use?07:18
danko123456sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella if you want a kazaa type thing.07:18
bob2hyphenated: it's new (for FAT, at least).07:18
bob2Seq: what generation of mac?07:18
danko123456bob2: any ideas http://pastebin.ca/12938 ?07:18
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danko123456sorry about the double post...07:19
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disquietDanko, I love you07:19
danko123456bah07:19
danko123456k, thanks.07:19
danko123456disquiet: use your synaptic, tho...07:19
nernalways07:19
nernyeah07:19
danko123456disquiet: System>Admin>Synaptic07:19
disquietdanko, to me, what you just said sounds like me saying this to you07:19
Seqbob2: any going back as far as i can remember. I'm curious if an mac diskette drive could be used in a standard x86 pc07:19
disquietdanko: use your uterus, tho....07:19
bob2danko123456: I'd guess corrupted .debs in /var/cache/apt/archives/07:20
holycowbob2, can usb sticks be mounted with sync option as well?07:20
danko123456sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb?07:20
Seqbob2: my curiosity is due to the swanky eject feature, which is what makes them cool to begin with07:20
bob2holycow: yes, but that will hammer the hell out of them07:20
danko123456thank you, btw.07:20
holycowbob2, oh okay makes sense, flash *nod*07:20
holycowthanks07:20
bob2holycow: someone posted on lkml a week ago saying their stick lasted like a week with sync on07:20
danko123456disquiet: I see, you want to use your uterus...hm...07:20
danko123456:)07:20
danko123456ok, disregard that,...07:20
disquiethaha07:20
bob2danko123456: or gstreamer*deb07:21
holycowbob2, no kidding?07:21
nerndisquiet prolly just needs to read some kind of little guide as to how the debian package management system works07:21
holycowha!07:21
disquietNo, thank you. I'm young yet. The uterus is unncessary for a good 3 -5 more years07:21
nernthen she would understand07:21
dr_willisSeq,  i dont think it will work. The mac and amiga  if i recall used a diffrent kind of floppy drive. I forget the details.. it was somthing to do with how the speeds of the drive were .. I think07:21
dr_willisthe pc used one kind. mac/amiga used another - this was AGES ago howeer.07:21
disquietnern - i need to read anything that will speak to me in english07:21
danko123456You ahve a System menu on the top on your screen then in it there is an Admin submenu, and in it Synaptic, go there...07:21
bob2Seq: hm, old ones I don't know07:21
Davey|Ubuntuis there any gaim updates available? Ubuntu ships with 1.14 and 1.30 is the latest with several security fixes...07:21
thechitowncubsDavey: backports07:21
dr_willisbut then again, I recall  that mac drives could read pc floppies...07:21
bob2Davey|Ubuntu: that's now how ubnutu works07:21
dr_willisbut that was the later ones.07:22
danko123456bob2: that is half assed:) what then, sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/gstreamer*deb07:22
Seqdr_willis: well I figured they wouldn't work on regular pc floppy connectors, but i wasn't sure if they were "ide" devices like cdroms and the like (i seem to recall most floppy-like drives being ide)07:22
bob2Davey|Ubuntu: When an ubuntu release is made, it stays the same until the next one comes out.  if security fixes are needed, the fix (and just the fix) is applied to the version in ubuntu.07:22
nernDavey|Ubuntu: there are some backports repos that i use that have gaim 1.3.0 and firefox 1.0.407:22
danko123456disquiet: that is your synaptic, you can use that to install anything, please open it now.07:22
bob2Davey|Ubuntu: ie 1.14 in ubuntu has all the security fixes from 1.3.007:22
disquietgot it open, danko07:22
bob2danko123456: yeah07:22
dr_willisSeq,  they are not ide. but i do think they were normal floppy conectors.07:22
disquietI'm totally falling in e-love with danko07:23
Davey|Ubuntubob2: bleh :/07:23
dr_willisSeq,  that LS120 floppy drive was  an IDE floppy07:23
nernUH OH shes falling for you07:23
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nernNOOOOO07:23
Davey|Ubuntunern: oh?07:23
thr1cekopete on gnome?07:23
thr1celol07:23
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Seqdr_willis: yeah, i was thinking of that, as well as the zip, and such07:23
danko123456great, ok, well, if you hit on the search button, and select to search for name&description, you can type in anything that makes sense, like organizer, and it will find an organizeer program for you...and so on..07:23
nernyeah that would be crappy AND kopete is just so fugly07:23
holycowwell i'll be damned, adding sync to your floppy line in fstab actually does mount it with sync07:23
Seqand the 32MB one (on regular diskettes)07:23
disquietexcellent! Thanks, danko, for serious.07:23
thechitowncubskopete is not my cup of tea07:23
bob2holycow: it writes things immediately?07:24
Seqdr_willis: hmm. its mostly just idle curiosity, since i don't actually own a single floppy drive, nor do i want one :p07:24
holycownifty, thanks again guys!07:24
holycowbob2, yupper!07:24
nernyeah i threw up in my mouth when i saw it for the first time07:24
thechitowncubslol07:24
Seqdr_willis: but it would solve a lot of "bah! ejected without umounting" issues if i ever needed one07:24
danko123456I doubt you are really a girl, tho...:) usuallly ppl pull legs like that...07:24
bob2holycow: woo, guess it's been implemented then ;)07:24
thechitowncubsi might have had the taste07:24
danko123456sned me a pic...07:24
holycowbob2, didn't even haveto umount it, files are all there07:24
holycowbob2, *whew* :)07:24
nernlets not get too excited dando07:24
nern*danko07:24
nernhaha07:24
danko123456bob2: shoudl i just go with the *.deb, cause...it seems to happen with other packages as well...07:24
danko123456nern: ......read the post b4 that:)07:25
bob2holycow: the kernel will get very unhappy if you do that while it's writing07:25
JormundgandI like Kopete's theme-ability, but it's significantly buggier than Gaim.07:25
bob2holycow: it really is better to umount it whenever possible07:25
nerni did~!07:25
nernhaha07:25
holycowbob2, heh really? that sounds like an interesting question07:25
nernjust clownin doh07:25
bob2danko123456: ok07:25
holycowbob2, *nod* i'm thinking this will become a common user issue07:25
nernsorry07:25
nernhaha07:25
disquietdanko07:25
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disquietI will send you a picture07:25
Seqdanko123456: yeah, i've learned a lesson today. if i ever want help in a busy irc channel, just identify oneself as a girl07:25
thechitowncubsnern: im confused07:25
disquietI'm used to defending my female hood.07:26
silvertonis gkrellm available on ubuntu ?07:26
JormundgandIf I could customise Gaim's message output I'd be happy.07:26
nernthechitotowncubs: how so?07:26
thechitowncubsat this conversation07:26
thechitowncubsnvm07:26
thechitowncubsi guess i was thinking out loud07:26
danko123456disquiet: which just gives me more reason to think you are joking, I could send you someone elses pic...:)07:26
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danko123456disquiet: but, I believe you, lets say:)07:26
SeqJormundgand: what can you theme in kopete? Isn't it just a qt chat client?07:26
bob2come on folks, no one needs to "prove" their gender07:26
bob2holycow: well, floppy drives are going out of vogue pretty quickly07:27
bob2holycow: at least IMe07:27
danko123456bob2: I agree, I apologize, disquiet, its all good:)07:27
thr1cekopete is kde07:27
nernwhat happened to honesty07:27
thr1ceit wouldn't be worth it07:27
JormundgandSeq: I mean like setting its output so conversations look like they do in iChat which is neat.07:27
thr1ceyou can't do AIM file transfers, either07:27
nernhaha07:27
thechitowncubsoh07:27
thechitowncubslike Miranda>07:27
thechitowncubs?07:27
disquietHaha, danko, ok07:27
thr1cepretty much07:27
thechitowncubsya, aim transfers are hell07:27
danko123456:(07:27
danko123456anyhow...07:27
thechitowncubsdoes kopete do aim transfers>07:27
thechitowncubs?07:27
disquietI do have more than one, though. Differnet angles over several years. So had I sent them, I would have been able to back it up.07:28
nerngaim does aim transfers for me07:28
thr1cekopete won't07:28
thechitowncubsI think you have to configure your firewall07:28
thr1cekopete will do MSN (though poorly)07:28
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thechitowncubsWhat audio player do you guys use?07:28
Seqthr1ce: yeah, gaim does msn pretty poorly too07:28
nerni just use totem for everything07:28
thechitowncubsI'm struggling to find a GTK2 app that can handle my 7,000 song library07:28
silvertonHello, is gkrellm available on ubuntu ?07:29
Seqthechitowncubs: rhythmbox and muine, depending which icon i find first07:29
thr1cexmms?07:29
thechitowncubsbesides xmms and bmp, i need a library07:29
hardcampa-thechitowncubs: bmp and xmms... they're the most comfortable one07:29
TouruRythmbox.07:29
thechitowncubslol07:29
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hardcampa-heh07:29
deFryskSeq, beep-media-player07:29
nernive heard good things about muine07:29
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hardcampa-Anything that looks like itunes I stay away from07:29
Seqthechitowncubs: i've only got 1409 songs though07:29
thechitowncubsI want to use rhythmbox real bad, cause it fits so nicely, but it just won't flippin add my songs.07:29
Seqthechitowncubs: but it took forever to rip all that07:29
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nernrip my asshole07:30
thechitowncubsAnother question, what app is capable of WMA-MP3 conversion?07:30
TouruOooh, good question. I need to know that, too. =D07:30
bob2thechitowncubs: I wouldn't bother07:30
bob2but mencoder could07:30
TouruWhat do you mean it won't add your songs?07:30
thechitowncubsI mean it won't add my songs.07:30
thechitowncubsYou know when you hit add folder, it won't do that.07:30
danko123456bob2: still same error...07:30
nerni think what he means is what does it do when you try07:30
thechitowncubsI can't get any more specific.07:30
TouruDo you get an error or something?07:31
nernor does it just not do anything07:31
thechitowncubsNope, it sits on Loading Songs...... ..... ...07:31
Tourunern: Since we've covered the gender topic tonight already, it's she. =P Assuming is no fun.07:31
bob2nern: I have ~5000 tracks ripped from my own cds07:31
Touruthechitowncubs: I have a big music collection too, you just have to wait for it.07:31
danko123456bob2: if you know which error I am talking about:)07:31
thechitowncubsIt seems to be adding em, then after about 4 yrs a message will come up saying that a song didn't add... then it crashes... or it just keeps saying loading songs...07:32
nernTouru: haha okay :)07:32
thechitowncubsIt does something different pretty much everytime.07:32
TouruMine usually errors on one or two songs, I pretty much ignore that. Never have had it crash, though.07:32
bob2danko123456: I'd guess a broken hook or something then07:32
bob2danko123456: or silly pinning07:32
thechitowncubsI'm using amaroK, its pretty amazing, but it doesn't fit07:32
TouruIt usually takes quite a while... lemme time it.07:32
Seqthechitowncubs: http://gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=45207:32
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thechitowncubsSeq: i was checking that out07:33
nerni just try to stay away from qt apps when possible07:33
thechitowncubsit looks like a Rhythmbox clone07:33
bob2danko123456: what does dpkg do when you install them by hand?07:33
Seqthechitowncubs: yeah, pretty much :p07:33
danko123456like how? its not on my comp:) as usual...07:33
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Seqthechitowncubs: sonace looks good too, though07:33
thechitowncubsYa...07:33
thechitowncubslol07:33
thechitowncubsyou are thinking exactly what i am07:34
thechitowncubssonance is coming out w/ a new version soon... i'll wait07:34
Seqnern: yeah, i ripped them all. i own lots of cds07:34
Seqnern: which is why i had to buy an iriver.. no way i was re-ripping or transcoding them :p07:34
thechitowncubsK, im attempting to add my files into rhythmbox07:35
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thechitowncubsstarting now07:35
thechitowncubslets time it07:35
thechitowncubs12:35AM CDT07:35
nernSeq: nice.... i could never get myself down to the task of actually ripping my cds07:35
Seqthechitowncubs: might also try a for loop, and mpg123 ;)07:35
Seqnern: other than my computer, I no longer have a cd player07:35
nernSeq: yeah my dvd player has turned into my cd player... i just love that surround sound07:36
thechitowncubsSeq: do you use SCSI emulation when you rip?07:36
Jormundganddanko123456: http://developer.imendio.com/images/4/49/Jam-screenshot1.png07:36
thechitowncubsbecause i don't and it goes super slow when im rippin my cds07:36
Seqthechitowncubs: nope. since switching to ubuntu, i've noticed that ripping speed is horrible though07:36
thechitowncubsya07:36
nernyeah my burning speed is pretty pathetic07:36
thechitowncubsyou might want to look into that07:36
JormundgandMy burning speed is zero because ide-cd is b0rken.07:37
Seqthechitowncubs: i have. i dunno why, there doesn't seem to be anything particularly wrong :/07:37
thechitowncubshrmmm07:37
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cthulfuegoNow you burn much faster!07:37
Seqand when I burn cds or dvds, if i select "max" speed, i get a coaster every time. I need to select 50% of whatever the front of my drive says it can do07:37
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cthulfuegoSeq: Mebbe the disk just can't keep up.07:38
danko123456bob2: it was weird sources.07:38
thechitowncubsmaybe you guys can answer this question, while on the topic of cds... My dad's comp recenlty aqquired ubuntu and nautilus cd burning doesn't work, but Gnome-Baker does... what the hell is wrong :/?07:38
nerni just K3b07:38
danko123456Jormundgand: nice, so? :)07:39
thechitowncubsSeq: what drive?07:39
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Seqcthulfuego: well I thought that, but I doubt it. I know it technically can, since "it can in windows", and the drive has buffer underrun protection which should help at least somewhat07:39
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Seqthechitowncubs: hold on, other machine07:39
cthulfuegoSeq: Odd. I have no issues with mine here (and I run six in the one machine)07:40
nernman you guys are making me want to splurge and buy myself a new processor so i can have multiple machine :(07:40
deviantis there any way to control fan speed by software in linux ?07:40
cthulfuegonern: eh?07:41
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cthulfuegodeviant: Buy an amd64, they do it all by themselves.07:41
thechitowncubsdeviant: are your fans controlled by the mobo07:41
thechitowncubsor are you talking about your CPU fan07:41
Seqcthulfuego: well actually, i lied. i have to burn dvds at 2x, the discs are only 4x (i get coasters at 4x). The drive is capable of 16x apparently...07:41
nerncthulfuego: yes... i want to get rid of this celeron in my machine anyway, and put it in a second machine07:41
bob2cthulfuego: you wouldn't happen to know of any PCI-E 1x cards, would you?07:41
Seqcthulfuego: and i've tried different kinds of discs at 4x (4x discs seem to be the best price right now)07:41
cthulfuegobob2: maybe scorptec know07:42
Seqthechitowncubs: NEC 3520A07:42
nernanybody overclocking their cpu?07:42
deviantthechitowncubs: in windows i could control them by using speedfan07:42
cthulfuegobob2: have you been out shopping?07:42
bob2cthulfuego: yeah, everything is 16x here...emailed scorptech this morning.07:43
cthulfuegobob2: hah07:43
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cthulfuegobob2: I'm not sure I quite understand the mobos google tells me about. They all claim PCI-E16X and PCI-E1X07:46
deviantermmm07:46
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cthulfuegobob2: Not sure how many also confuse PCI-X on top of that07:46
cthulfuegobob2: What mobo you got?07:46
bob2cthulfuego: yeah, it seems to be a very "special" ibm one07:46
bob2cthulfuego: it had a little plastic sleeve on the pci-e slot, which looked like a dust cover or something...but turns out to be there to stop you plugging in > 1x pci-e cards07:47
lcoreAfter changing /etc/aliases entries is it necessary to restart any services?07:47
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bob2lcore: sudo newaliases07:47
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lcorebob2, thanx07:47
bob2that handles whatever your MTA needs to have happen07:47
revelaterhello, for some reason, whne i go into other resolutions with my screen, i have to scroll to see the whole thing, why is that?07:48
bob2because you're not chaning resolution07:48
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bob2you're changing the size of your desktop07:48
cthulfuegobob2: for a linux box?07:48
bob2if it's bigger than the actual resolution of the screen, X makes you scroll around it07:48
bob2cthulfuego: yeah07:48
nernyou need to edit your xorg.conf file07:49
cthulfuegobob2: so basically an nvidia card07:49
revelaterok, so how to i make it the way it shoulod be?07:49
Touruthechitowncubs: Okay, my music folder takes about 10-12 minutes to completely load in Rhythmbox.07:49
Touru3509 songs.07:49
bob2cthulfuego: this was a radeon, but ibm has a technote saying no > 1x cards will work.07:49
EircBbtw yahoo music engine in vmware in ubuntu works awesome07:49
revelater?07:49
Seqrevelater: resize using xrandr in console, or the "screen resolution" option in system->preferences07:49
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bob2cthulfuego: the onboard i915 is kinda ass with X (Xvideo is broken)07:50
revelaterSeq: ummm, i am not using gnome07:50
cthulfuegobob2: 's just that all pci-e radeons would require fglrx, which is poo07:50
bob2cthulfuego: ahh07:50
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Seqrevelater: whatcha using?07:50
revelaterfluxbox07:50
Crono5788Heya, could someone tell me how to switch my display driver to vesa?07:50
bob2cthulfuego: well, I'd worry about that if it got past POST with it plugged in ;)07:50
bob2Crono5788: why do you want to do that?07:50
Crono5788This is my first Linux experience and I have no idea what the hell is going on07:50
Seqrevelater: alrighty, open a console and use xrandr07:50
Crono5788X server can't start on my X70007:50
nernid just edit my xorg.conf file07:51
Crono5788And the hardware wiki said to do that07:51
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Crono5788Okay07:51
revelaterandrew@AndrewLX:~ $ xrandr07:51
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revelaterXlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0".07:51
revelaterandrew@AndrewLX:~ $07:51
Crono5788How do you edit the xorg.xonf file, though?07:51
bob2Crono5788: a radeon?07:51
Crono5788That's where I hit the snag07:51
Crono5788Yeah07:51
Crono5788Sapphire07:51
revelaternern: what should i ecit07:51
revelater?07:51
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Seqwell i guess you'll have to do like nern and edit your config to either specify your desired resolution, or enable randr extension07:51
JormundgandHmm. Why does Bluecurve not quite work when I install it?07:51
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Seqrevelater: ^^ that was for you07:52
revelateri saw that07:52
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revelaterthank you07:52
revelaternern: what do i need to edit?07:52
Crono5788So how do I edit xorg.conf?07:52
nernits easy just open a terminal and type sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:52
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Crono5788Ty07:52
nernthen scroll down towards the bottom07:52
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revelater?07:53
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jb_on_ircDoes anyone know the status of that HP version of Ubuntu?  The one they promised to make for their laptops?07:54
nernnear the bottom you should find the section where your default color depth is specified and then after that what resolutions are supported by each of the color depths. just edit the resolution for your default color depth(most likely 24) to your desired resolution. save and then restart x.07:54
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revelaternern: so i have to do that everytime i need to change my res?07:55
bob2jb_on_irc: you can buy it07:55
bob2jb_on_irc: but stock ubuntu should work fine anyway07:55
nernrevelator: well, do you frequently change your res?07:55
revelaterif i needed to for a program then yes07:55
jb_on_ircbob2: I was looking forward to the HP version, because the fact that they DO do some sepcific work to make it work better with their laptops indicates that something did not work right off the bat.  Where can you buy it from?07:56
bob2jb_on_irc: I'm pretty sure hoary works just as well as hp's version.07:56
nernwell if you just add the resolution that you would like next to the other ones then you should be able to change resolutions through the gpanel applet07:56
danko123456nice thinkingL07:56
danko123456:)07:56
nernwhich you will prolly have to add to the panel07:56
bob2jb_on_irc: you can buy laptops with it pre-installed in some parts of europe07:56
revelaternern: ok cool, thanks07:56
nernrevelator: i try07:57
nernrevelator: :)07:57
bob2jb_on_irc: presumably their website lists where07:57
jb_on_ircbob2:  Well, I have my laptop already, and I am located on the other side of the world.  Something downloadable would be nice.  Does anyone know then what it is that they have added/modified in that HP build?  Besides adding Hp logos...07:57
danko123456bob2: like croatia:) I saw (my country originally) they totally sell computers with linux...07:57
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TouruI don't have an _HP_ laptop, but I haven't had any trouble with Ubuntu on my laptop. (The scroll wheel doesn't work, but it's an uncommon feature anyway, and I haven't tried to fix it at all -- it'll probably be an easy fix)07:58
Crono5788I tried sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but it said it couldn't open the display07:58
bob2jb_on_irc: I'd be very very surprised if it worked better than hoary07:58
bob2danko123456: oh, awesome07:58
bob2jb_on_irc: I'm trying to find out what's different now07:58
jb_on_ircbob2:  Ok...07:58
danko123456yeah, like, totally you can buy from the biggest vendors I am not sure if ubuntu, Ill check it out now, and link you if so...07:59
bob2jb_on_irc: personally I'd just hoary it up now07:59
nerni have a mouse problem that i have never tried to fix too07:59
nernmy wheel works fine07:59
junior_anyone had a problem where they boot without an ac adapter and then add it later but the cpu wont scale?07:59
nernbut i have a mouse with the back and forward buttons, and those buttons do not work08:00
Crono5788I'm at a DOS-looking command prompt and I need to edit /etc/x11/xorg.conf, does anyone know how to, uh... Do that?08:00
Crono5788I feel retarded.08:00
Crono5788Just this morning I locked myself out of my computer via BIOS password08:00
EircBhahaha08:00
Crono5788Now I can't even edit files08:01
TouruI just assume the wheel doesn't work 'cause touchpads usually don't have them... maybe same deal with your mouse? (I don't think I've seen one like that before)08:01
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paringascant seem to find konquerors extension repository. could anyone point one out, plz?08:01
jeremywhitinghi all, anyone here know how to install ubuntu from a gnoppix cd? I'm new to ubuntu08:01
jb_on_ircbob2: Well, thanks for the information. I got to go, though...08:02
thechitowncubsGaim for irc, wow08:02
Crono5788Someone please tell me how to edit a file?08:02
danko123456this one place sells computers, saying, like, with linux...but, no installation, hah...08:03
EircBCrono5788, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:03
Crono5788That didn't work, though08:03
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EircBwhat did it say?08:03
Crono5788It said Couldn't open display, IIRC08:03
EircBok try08:03
danko123456sudo vi then08:03
EircBsudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:03
thechitowncubsnano08:03
thechitowncubsnano08:03
EircBdanko123456,  he doesn't know how to edit a file there is no chance he can run vi :)08:04
danko123456right:)08:04
Crono5788x.x08:04
Crono5788Hey08:04
Crono5788I can use Notepad pretty good08:04
EircBheh08:04
EircBnotepad is a text editor, vi is a program editor08:04
Crono5788Anyway, ty, brb08:04
danko123456I love the *beep* *beep* you get on older linuxex when you let a whole class of new eager programmers onto it...08:04
Crono5788Program editor?08:04
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EircByes08:04
Crono5788How does that work?08:04
danko123456ugh...older unixes///08:04
EircBvi (vim) has advanced features for editing programs08:05
gaimtestactually, gaim for irc isn't that bad08:05
gaimtestlol08:05
Crono5788Thought programs weren't editable, the .exes...08:05
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EircBsource files08:05
danko123456well, not only that...but, it has different commands than notepad...08:05
Amaranthdanko123456: talking about terminal beeps for when you do something wrong?08:05
danko123456ya:)08:05
gaimtestbtw, im still loading files, after the first attempt failed08:05
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danko123456its fun08:05
dooglusis there some setting for whether I can use Ctlr-Alt-+ to switch between different resolutions?  'cos at the moment it's not working for me08:05
Amaranthi'd go nuts08:05
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EircBvim is notepad on superman speed * 1008:05
Crono5788o:08:06
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Amaranthbtw, mark shuttleworth (you know who he is) is giving a netnote speech at guadec in 84 minutes, you guys should try to watch :)08:06
Amarantherr, keynote08:06
Crono5788Okay, so sudo pico /etc/x11/xorg.conf, brb, install in question is two floors up08:06
Amaranthnot netnot08:06
Amaranthbleh, too early08:06
dooglusCrono5788: you talking to me?08:07
danko123456how would we try it?08:07
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Amaranthonly those of you who can find the URL to the stream can watch it, otherwise they'll get slammed and i won't be able to ;)08:07
SeqAmaranth: I don't think I can make it to guadec that fast...08:07
danko123456ctrl+alt and a number, I think08:07
danko123456dooglus: ^ but that is a long dshot...08:07
slonocodehello.....where can i put bttv options?08:08
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dooglusdanko123456: that's for switching to the various console screens08:08
Amaranthbtw, unless i find another major bug i think smeg 0.7 is going to be released today08:08
danko123456f4 is for that.08:08
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danko1234564 is for what I am talking about, and you.08:08
Seqdooglus: are you using + and - on your keypad?08:08
dooglusSeq: I don't have a keypad.08:09
dooglusSeq: it's a laptop08:09
Seqdooglus: thats prolly why it isn't working. I think it has to be keypad. try turning the numlock on if your laptop has it08:09
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dooglusSeq: when I turn 'num lock' on, 'p' does '-' and ';' does '+'08:09
Seqdooglus: or optionally with the fn key08:09
Seqdooglus: ctrl+alt+fn+p   might work08:10
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Seqdooglus: well.. not here, anyway08:10
dooglusnothing08:10
danko123456apple?08:10
dooglusnope, dixons08:10
Crono5788Holy crap, I almost wet myself08:11
dooglusd6es ctr3-alt-+ do it for you?08:11
Crono5788I see Linux is case sensitive08:11
dooglusCrono5788: yes.08:11
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Crono5788I went to edit /etc/x11/xorg.conf and it was totally blank o.o08:11
Crono5788Then I made the X in x11 capital case and poof08:12
Crono5788My life was saved08:12
[Chameleon] Crono5788: LOL08:12
Crono5788And now the login screen is showing up08:12
Crono5788The whole thing looks fancy08:12
EircByes, linux is case sensitive08:12
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Crono5788They should have some sort of FAQ Q/A like, 'How do I edit a file?', in the wiki...08:12
EircB"Login screen wtf is a login screen..."08:13
EircB10 years ago08:13
EircBlong ass time08:13
dooglusthey should have a "how can I recompile the kernel" too08:13
EircBI'm old.08:13
EircBthey do have that :)08:13
Crono5788Luckily, here on out is an easy ride.08:13
dooglusCtrl+Alt+Keypad-Plus08:13
dooglus    Change video mode to next one specified in the configuration file. This can be disabled with the DontZoom xorg.conf(5x) file option.08:13
EircBor ctrl+alt+shift+plus-above-equal08:14
Crono5788All I have to do is kick my Linksys 802.11G card until it works in Linux and then I've got everything covered08:14
danko123456yeah, the basics.......08:14
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EircBhehe08:14
EircBthere is a windows to linux howto08:14
dooglusEircB: that doesn't do anything either08:14
SeqCrono5788: yeah, usually the threat of physical violence gets those bits shaking pretty good08:14
Crono5788I know08:15
Crono5788It works on my Dreamcast all the time08:15
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Crono5788If it won't read a game or disc08:15
Crono5788I just go up to punch it and all the sudden it can raed08:15
Crono5788*read08:15
Madpilotthere is a PC support outfit here in town called "Swift Kick Computing"...08:15
danko123456why am I totally always being frustrated by the stupid computers not working how I would like them to?08:15
EircBdooglus,  did you enable different resoultions in xorg.conf?08:15
Lestat_how coul i disable the automount and aurorun in ubuntu???08:15
Crono5788But wow, it finall freaking works08:16
Crono5788Thank you so much08:16
EircB:)08:16
Lestat_how could i separate my root acount from my user.. acount???08:16
EircByou what?08:16
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Crono5788Went out, bought a SATA drive so I could wipe my primary to install Linux because dual boots with Windows never worked...08:16
dooglusEircB: it's a long story.08:16
Crono5788Then I locked my computer up08:16
Crono5788Then SATA didn't work08:16
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Crono5788Then X server didn't work08:16
Crono5788But now it works08:16
dooglusEircB: I'm using the "merged framebuffer mode" of the "sis" driver for x.org08:17
Crono5788And to think it's only 2:1608:17
Crono5788And I started at 4:0008:17
dooglushttp://www.winischhofer.at/linuxsispart2.shtml#mergedfbmode08:17
EircB:)08:17
EircBCrono5788, I installed ubuntu for the first time today too08:17
danko123456Lestat_: you into vampires? Apps>Sys Tools>COnf Editor08:17
EircBand vmware08:17
EircBand windows in vmware08:17
EircBrah!08:17
danko123456Lestat_: gnome?08:17
Crono5788But you know about Linux, though08:17
EircB:)08:17
dooglusEircB: he writes: "As of XFree86 4.3 (and all versions of X.org), the Modes statement in the Screen section is not relevant anymore in MergedFB mode. It can basically be left out." - so I left the 'modes' out.  maybe, however, they're needed after all?08:17
Lestat_m nop in kubuntu desktop... (KDE 3.4) danko12345608:18
Crono5788Well anyone08:18
Crono5788*anyway08:18
Crono5788I'm gonna go break my computer some more08:18
Crono5788Ty for the help08:18
danko123456Lestat_: then I dont know...I know in gnome how to do it.08:18
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Lestat_but i think it isnt so different danko12345608:18
EircBdooglus, *shrug* I don't know much about xorg08:19
EircBCrono5788, enjoy08:19
danko123456It has the different config files, thos...08:19
danko123456Not sure, I never really use kde, some here do, likely...08:19
danko123456does anyone use kde, and know how to set up the automount, and autorun on cds, and removable media?08:19
Lestat_ok08:20
deFryskdanko123456, most people on #kubuntu use kde08:21
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Lestat_ja ok.. im gonna to kubuntu08:21
EircBI'm not sure I'm comfortable with this world shift to gnome08:21
danko123456:) hey, why is my internet connection getting me upset?08:21
danko123456wow, now its up, and I did nothing....man...08:22
danko123456am I alive here?08:24
jsgotangcoobviously08:24
Lestat_jajajajajajajaja08:24
danko123456ok, thanks, noone was saying nothing.08:24
EircByeah08:24
EircBja ja08:24
nernraaaaaar08:24
danko123456where are you from Lestat_, netherlands?08:24
Lestat_no i dont..08:24
Lestat_im from mexico08:24
Lestat_and actually i live in cancun08:24
nerngirls with low self esteem08:25
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danko123456whats with jajajaj, I see that often...08:25
danko123456is that a spanish thing?08:25
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Lestat_yeah..08:25
danko123456oh, ok, bnow I know.08:25
Lestat_and where are you from danko 1 2 3 1408:25
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danko123456danko wasnt available when I first came to freenode...Canada now, Croatia/Yugoslavia originally...08:27
Lestat_ok..08:27
Lestat_thats interesting..08:27
dooglusok.  i'll give up on trying to get x.org set up how I like it, and move on...08:28
dooglusto...  how do you set up the firewall so that you can still browse windows shares?08:28
Lestat_well lstat is no avaliable.. because there a lot of anne rice fans..08:28
k4rp0rdoes anyone knows any good movie players fo linux?08:28
desrttotem.08:28
Lestat_kaffeine..08:28
deFryskmplayer xine08:28
Tourudanko123456: D'you happen to know if the Canadian Ubuntu mailing lists and so forth are active?08:28
dooglusvlc08:29
desrtk4rp0r; the default totem installation on ubuntu uses gstreamer = sucks08:29
danko123456lestat is a vampire name...08:29
desrtapt-get install totem-xine08:29
desrtthat'll replace it with a somewhat more capable backend08:29
danko123456Touru: no, I dont happen to know.08:29
Lestat_yeah.. but all of them use th xine libs.. actually the xine motor to work..08:29
Crono5788Whenever I move the mouse , the computer makes this clicking noies...08:29
TouruMmmkay, thanks anyway,08:29
Crono5788Anyone know what it is?08:29
desrtCrono5788; cpu power saving08:29
Crono5788*noise08:29
Lestat_jajaj yeah..08:29
Crono5788Power saving?08:29
deFryskCrono5788, your mouse rusts ?08:29
desrthow loud is the click?08:30
Crono5788No, no08:30
Crono5788The computer makes the noise08:30
Crono5788Not the mouse08:30
Crono5788It's optical, plastic08:30
Crono5788USB08:30
Lestat_what da.,.. mouse??08:30
Crono5788Fancy-shmancy Logitech08:30
danko123456nice...I just did a dist-upgrade on a new install, and now I sit back and relax and wait...08:30
Lestat_ive never prove this..  i usemy geeric ps2 mouse..08:31
Crono5788But, in Ubuntu, whenever I move the mouse I can hear a clicking kind of sound.08:31
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devianthow come when i do a modprobe -r to a module, it`s loaded next time the machine bootes ?08:31
Crono5788Which is very noticeable because right now my computer's right next to my face, with the case open08:31
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dooglusdeviant: because modprobe -r doesn't make any permanent changes.08:32
danko123456deviant: that truly should not happen(to the extent of my newb knowledge...)08:32
dooglusif you don't want the module loaded when you boot, comment it from /etc/modules08:32
danko123456hehe08:32
danko123456Crono5788: stop, and think, there is not much I can think of...08:33
HarnakDoes anyone know of a howto or can explain to me how I can get dual monitors with an ATI Radeon card working where the second monitor is an extension of the first screen?  But I don't want apps when maximized to span both monitors.08:33
deviantdooglus: but i can`t find it in /etc/modules. for example snd_pcm_oss08:33
deviant is not there ...08:33
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danko123456Harnak: www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowTo I typed that out.08:34
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Harnakthanks Danko12345608:34
Seqdeviant: make a file in /etc/hotplug/blacklist.d/ , and add the name of the module to that file08:34
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danko123456Note (optional): You might want to install the fglrx-control package, which provides a control panel to configure graphics card options such as dual-head display (two monitors).08:35
danko123456Harnak: welcome, I know its mentioned there, not much more...08:35
fryziebisa gak08:35
Crono5788I think it's the PC speaker making that noise but I'm not sure08:36
Lestat_cio im gonna sleep because i need to wape early morning..08:36
putrihai08:36
HarnakI tried teh fglrx-control package but that only creates an XFree86-4 config file and not xorg. It does span both monitors but causes apps when fullscreen to span both monitors.. :(08:36
Crono5788So then I guess I could just unplug my PC speaker, don't use it for much...08:36
danko123456bye...hi...08:37
Crono5788Hi bye?08:37
danko123456(01:36:40) Lestat_: cio im gonna sleep because i need to wape early morning..08:37
danko123456(01:36:40) putri: hai08:37
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deviantSeq: when i was using debian, a while ago, there was an ap (modconf i think), in wich i could see what modules are loaded and load/unload them by will. it seems i can`t find it on ubuntu08:37
Lestat_jajajajja08:37
putrihaiiiii08:37
danko123456lsmod08:38
danko123456lists modules, I think08:38
Seqdeviant: what module is it? its probably loaded automagically by hotplug08:38
EircBlists loaded modules08:38
Marble2how can I get jre working in firefox?08:38
danko123456Marble2: still?? tried those two links I gave you?08:38
Marble2yes I tried them08:39
Marble2didn't work08:39
danko123456I mean, I dunno if I should help you with gambling...08:39
Marble2it's not just that site08:39
Marble2other ones that need java too.08:39
Marble2i tried creating a symbolic link like a couple guides said, but then firefox crashed when I went to the site08:39
deviantseq: well, let`s start with OSS modules. now i`m using ALASA, and i want to get rid of the OSS ones08:39
danko123456ok, well, can you undo all you did?08:40
Marble2yea08:40
Marble2i undid it08:40
danko123456Marble2: pm me...08:40
Marble2doesn't crash08:40
Seqdeviant: which oss modules? if they start with snd_ , they are alsa modules to provide oss compatability. ubuntu is alsa by default08:40
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EircBis there a -current install source?08:41
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deviantseq: so snd_pcm_oss are part of ALSA ? ermm08:42
Crono5788So in order to get my Windows Linksys 802.11G card in Linux I use NdisWrapper?08:43
Seqdeviant: yes, to provide oss compatability08:43
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deviantSeq: aha. capisci. then, what are the oss modules?08:43
KarlosIInetsplit08:43
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KarlosIIwoot08:43
danko123456where, KarlosII?08:44
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Madpilotnah, a netsplit on a big channel like this involves at LEAST two pages of green text... :)08:44
Seqdeviant: more blandly named, if i recall. for example, on alsa the sblive driver is snd_emu10k1 , wheras oss was just emu10k1 (i believe)08:44
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Crono5788Say I use this NdisWrapper thing and get the drivers to work...08:45
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jdizzlewtf i installed the new ati drivers and still no 3D acceleration08:45
Crono5788What then?08:45
Crono5788Does it automatically get wireless internet, or do I need to go through network config things?08:45
cyphasedoes anyone know of *any* kind of VoIP implementation that works like Jabber, in that you can talk with someone at voip1.com even though your on voip2.com?08:45
Seqjdizzle: what card?08:46
deviantSeq: aha. now i get it :) ok, one more question: when i do a lsmod i see there all kinds of modules, which i`m not sure i`ll ever use. how can i get rid of them, as they are not listed in /etc/modules ?08:46
jdizzleSeq: Radeon 9500 pro08:46
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KarlosIIanother server I thought for a moment the channel was on this server08:47
Seqjdizzle: and you've set up the xorg.conf as per ati's instructions?08:47
Seqdeviant: depends what the modules are. there are some that you definately won't want to remove (ide chipset drivers, for example)08:47
jdizzleSeq: per a tutorial on ubunu forums08:47
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jdizzleSeq: ati gave instructions?08:48
dooglusdeviant: be careful.  I went along that route once, disabling all kinds of stuff "I would never use".  I ended up without a working keyboard...  :)08:48
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deviantdooglus: i`ll research each one of them before removing ...08:48
ekCohey08:48
Seqbut do what i said earlier -- make a file in /etc/hotplug/blacklist.d/ and list modules you dont want loaded there. most modules are loaded by hotplug (at least in my experience, though im sure not all)08:48
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deviantdooglus: but how to remove them? where are them listed, or loaded from. or someting ...08:49
Seqjdizzle: yeah, when you go to ati's website to get the drivers, they have a big readme i believe08:49
Seqjdizzle: i ditched my ati card a while back, so i cant remember the exact procedure08:49
dooglusdeviant: I removed them by editing the kernel config, unticking them and rebuilding the kernel.08:49
ekCoi keep getting this error when trying to compile programs.08:50
ekCo"checking whether the C++ compiler (gcc  ) works... no08:50
ekCoconfigure: error: installation or configuration problem: C++ compiler cannot create executables."08:50
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danko123456sudo apt-get install build-essential ?08:50
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dooglusSeq, I'm running ubuntu on a laptop.  It has a pcmcia slot, into which I plug a USB2 interface card.  If I run Windows with the card in, it's fine.  If I run ubuntu with the card in, my ethernet connection goes down after a random time period.  Any idea why, or how to diagnose the problem?08:51
jdizzleSeq: nothin on the site08:51
Crono5788Does Ubuntu, by default, install sources?08:51
jdizzleanyone here successfully install new ati xorg drivers?08:51
Crono5788Kernel sources I guess is what it means...08:52
Seqdooglus: anything come up in dmesg??08:52
Crono5788Or... Something..08:52
Seqdooglus: but offhand, no.. no idea..08:52
SeqCrono5788: not by default, no08:52
ekCoyeah danko123456 thanks :)08:52
dooglusSeq: no, I don't think so.08:52
deviantdooglus: yeah, i was thinking of that. but i`m to lazy right now to do that. is like 10 AM and i haven`y sleept enough for this kind of operation. besides, i`m out of coke :(08:52
Crono5788Well crap08:52
danko123456ekCo: that worked?08:52
ekCoyeah08:52
KarlosIIcrud08:52
ekCoi did it last install08:52
dooglusdeviant: where is it 10am?08:52
Crono5788Why can't the apps for Linux just come pre-compiled?08:52
transgressCrono5788: they doo08:53
ekCoi had it on my second hdd.. forgot to on this one08:53
transgresserr do08:53
deviantdooglus: where i am now. (bucharest)08:53
transgressCrono5788: what do you think apt-get is?08:53
Crono5788I do not know what apt-get is08:53
danko123456cool:)08:53
dooglusdeviant: it's 9am in praha08:53
jdizzleanyone have working ati drivers in ubuntu?08:53
danko123456glad I could help you with my newb knowledge:)08:53
danko123456lots of ppl...08:53
deviantdooglus: want to switch places ? :P08:53
dooglusdeviant: what, and lose an hour?  no way!08:54
Crono5788Does anyone have experience with NdisWrapper?08:54
danko123456Crono5788: apt-get gets you precompiled binaries.08:54
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transgressCrono5788: i do08:54
deviantdooglus: i`ll buy a beer :P08:54
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Crono5788Do I need the sources to use it?08:54
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danko123456then it is 10am in like, turkey, or smthng like that...08:54
transgressi had to get the sources to get them to work, but there are precompiled binaries available... they may work for you... i had to grab sources to get amd64 support08:54
jdizzlethere any working tutorials for the new ati drivers?08:55
danko123456if its 9 in praha08:55
Crono5788Where might the pre-compiled binaries be?08:55
Crono5788Google?08:55
transgressjdizzle: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto08:55
danko123456Crono5788: what sources:)08:55
transgressCrono5788: apt-get08:55
danko123456in the ubuntu repositories, I think you refer to them as sources.08:55
Crono5788I can't get on any network, though08:55
KarlosIIbah mplayer broke with the latest updates08:55
transgressCrono5788: if you are in ubuntu and don't know how to use apt-get you are in way above your head08:55
jdizzlehas anyone successfully installed ati drivers?08:55
transgressah08:55
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transgressumm08:55
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KarlosIIooh well08:56
transgressCrono5788: well you are gonna need to apt-get some stuff to use the sources too... so grab an ethernet cable08:56
Crono5788Right now my Ubuntu computer is upstairs, I'm on a WinXP Media Center with a CD burner08:56
EircByou poor thing08:56
KarlosIIxp gah08:56
danko123456Crono5788: can you get online, no?08:56
Crono5788I can't make my cable go through my floors and down my stairs08:56
ekCoJust another small prob, i get this error with nvclock.. leafb0x@ekCo:~$ nvclock -i08:56
ekCoNVClock v0.708:56
ekCoSegmentation fault08:56
ekColeafb0x@ekCo:~$08:56
EircBCrono5788,  you own a drill don't you?08:56
SeveasCrono5788, then bring your comp. downstairs :)08:56
EircBno no08:56
KarlosIIyes you can, I did, and it was CAT6 Ethernet :)08:56
Seqjdizzle: try /usr/share/doc/fglrx08:56
EircBdestruction is much more fun08:56
Crono5788lol08:57
jdizzledo the new ati drivers even work on ubuntu08:57
Crono5788Don't think my parents would like that too much08:57
deviantjdizzle:  look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32495&highlight=ati+drivers08:57
Crono5788Both the destruction and the noise during sleep time08:57
Seqjdizzle: there is an index.html there, it has ati's instructions08:57
KarlosIIjdizzle, yes08:57
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KarlosIImy friend at work got them working08:57
Crono5788So there's no way to use this computer to help?08:57
ubuntuhiya all08:57
KarlosIIalways a awy08:57
ubuntunoob alert08:57
KarlosIIaway08:57
EircB:)08:57
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ubuntuneed help with wireless on ubuntu08:58
Crono5788...Would it be easier to just skip out tomorrow and buy a Linux compatible wireless G card?08:58
KarlosIImr canada speak08:58
KarlosII:)08:58
KarlosIIany card is wireless :)08:58
ubuntuthe system recognises it and its in the devices list08:58
danko123456so, KarlosIIyou ahve a canada speak buddy at work?08:58
Crono5788Uh...08:58
KarlosIIand linux compatible, u just need to knwo how to talk to it :)08:58
ekConvclock always gets a segmentation fault..08:58
ubuntuit just wont turn on (IBM T-42 thinkpad)08:58
deviantdooglus: just curious? how did u fix ur keyboard without a keyboard to work on ?08:58
ekCowhats the reason?08:58
KarlosIIActually I am a Canada :)08:59
dooglusdeviant: I ssh'ed into the box.08:59
danko123456ubuntu, that should work out the box, taht is a good laptop for linux...08:59
danko123456KarlosII: which city?08:59
deviantdooglus: aha. nice :P08:59
ubuntuhmm08:59
KarlosIIedmonton08:59
danko123456Winnipeg:)08:59
KarlosIIborn there08:59
KarlosII:)08:59
danko123456nice08:59
ubuntuanother noob quesiton-how do i figure out the ip addresses i have both interfaces active on DHCP (wireless and ethernet)08:59
KarlosIII left behind all my dark secrets09:00
dooglusdeviant: but also, since I was messing about with recompiling the kernel, I could just as well have booted into a previous build, which had the keyboard module compiled.  It's always worth keeping a working kernel in your boot menu...09:00
KarlosIIin that city09:00
KarlosII:)09:00
danko123456ifconfig09:00
dooglusubuntu: "ifconfig" and "iwconfig"?09:00
deviantdooglus: that would be my 1st option09:00
Crono5788My GOD the D-Link site is scary09:00
ubuntuin the root terminal-i presume?09:01
jdizzleKarlosII: whered u find a tutorial to install the drivers09:01
danko123456yes, si...09:01
dooglusdeviant: if you're editing blacklist files and the like, you can boot into any kernel you like, but they'll all see the same blacklist file...  so make sure your firewall is allowing ssh connections, and your ssh daemon is starting at boot time09:01
ubuntuweirdness09:02
danko123456ubuntu, any terminal, in fact.09:02
ubuntui am running ubuntu live09:02
danko123456ah...09:02
dooglusdeviant: as a last resort there's always the install cd - that probably lets you get a shell where you can fix stuff09:02
ubuntuoff a cd09:02
KarlosIIwhat's the best tool to use create books with pictures of screen grabs?09:02
deviantdooglus: i`ll recompile my kernel later, so i won`t use blacklist. but as i said, that would be later ....09:02
ubuntunow-the first time i opened up the network setting tab-i got the wireless listed there-but not active-now it shows up as 'ethernet connection'09:02
KarlosIIand if I were to write ubuntu book, would I violate the gpl if I were to make money from selling a printed copy?09:02
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transgressKarlosII: no09:03
deviantdooglus: but 10x for the advice :)09:03
dooglusdeviant: I've not managed to find any instructions for recompiling the ubuntu linux kernel - I read somewhere there were some special ubuntu patches that you need to apply, but I don't know the details.  did you find docs?09:03
danko123456ubuntu, if wireless is listed there, and you have a GUI, is it hard to get it working?09:03
KarlosIItransgress, ty09:03
deviantdooglus: what kind of patches ?09:03
ubuntuthats what i'm saying-its not listed there anymore09:04
dooglusdeviant: I don't recall.09:04
danko123456ekco, the reason is that you compiled the program, instead of apt-getting it....09:04
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danko123456^^09:04
danko123456ah...09:04
deviantdooglus: come to think of it, i don`t even know how to recompile a kernel anymore :( damn windows!09:04
danko123456im too tired, night.09:04
EircBlater09:04
jdizzlesomeone help me with installing ati drivers for hoary linux (xorg ones)09:05
danko123456EircB: I was gonna ask, whats up with Rakim?09:05
JormundgandUnsurprisingly, AIM logs on almost twice as fast as MSN.09:05
danko123456how's he doin'09:05
ubuntunight09:05
ubuntuthanks09:05
bob2jdizzle: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto09:05
lykkelamaenI cant get my screen resolution higher than 640 x 480. In Windows I can get 1280 x 1024. Dunno what I need to do? Update nVidia drivers?09:05
jdizzlei did that entire tutorial09:05
jdizzlebob2: did that tutorial 2x, still doesnt work09:06
ubuntuITS ALIVE!!!!09:06
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deviantjdizzle: u can try http//:ubuntuforums.org . they have a nice HOW-TO there, which will help you a loat09:06
danko123456:)09:06
danko123456you thought you could get rid of me that easy...09:06
ekColeafb0x@ekCo:~$ nvclock -n 525 -  NVClock v0.7 -- Segmentation fault09:06
DaveyI'm trying to make Firefox use Thunderbird as the mailto: handler, but when I have TB open it comes up with the Select Profile dialog and then obviously when I choose my profile it says the profile is in use, how do I get around this?09:06
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danko123456I have a bot to turn on to replace me while I sleep...09:06
ekCocan anyone help that problem?09:06
danko123456nvclock compiled, or apt-gotten?09:06
ekCocompiled09:06
EircBDavey,  there is a thing for that on mozdev.org09:06
DaveyEircB: remember what? :)09:07
EircBsorry, no09:07
EircBI didn't even take the time to set it up09:07
danko123456http://pastebin.ca/index.php09:07
danko123456ekco^09:07
bob2Davey: remove the lock file from ~/.mozilla-thunderbird/ or ~/.thunderbird/ ir wherever09:08
bob2Davey: make sure it's not running when you do that09:08
EircBheh09:08
ekCook danko123456, how can i uninstall my compiled version as i found it was using 32bit lol09:08
danko123456haha, ekCo, http://pastebin.ca/1294209:08
ekCoim on 64bit..09:08
Daveybob2: but it IS running, thats the point09:08
Daveybob2: I can't hit a mailto: link when Thunderbird is running, which is retarded09:08
danko123456make -r dunno, ask bob.09:08
ekCobob2, read up please :)09:09
bob2Davey: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct09:09
bob2Davey: the shell script wrapper should handle that09:09
bob2ekCo: ?09:09
bob2ekCo: I don't do binary drivers09:09
devianthmm, i have to go cook me some food ...09:09
danko123456he would like to know hwo to remove a program he complied, bob2, please.09:09
ekCohow can i uninstall my apt install of nvclock and my compiled install of nvclock09:09
Daveybob2: I can't use the word retarded now? :)09:09
ekCoso i can start these fresh09:09
danko123456well, for apt, apt-get remove nvclock09:10
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danko123456sudo09:10
Crono5788So wait09:10
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Dr_MelectausGuys09:10
Crono5788There's no 802.11G hardware for Linux at all?09:10
danko123456wassup, ryan?09:10
Dr_Melectausim running the live cd on my laptop09:10
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EircBCrono5788, what?09:10
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Dr_Melectausbut how the hell do i connect to the net09:10
EircBhehe09:10
danko123456EircB: so whats up with rakim?09:10
Dr_Melectaushey danko123456 :)09:10
Crono5788802.11G uses the Broadcom chipset which isn't Linux compatible?09:10
bob2ekCo: you can't, in general09:10
EircBwhy do people ask me that09:10
Dr_Melectausneed to know how to connect to the net09:10
EircBI'm not THAT EricB whoever he is09:11
bob2ekCo: "sudo make uninstall" might work if you still have the source tree around09:11
Crono5788So you can't buy an 802.11G card that comes with Linux support?09:11
danko123456no, only some g is broadcom, you have a Mac?09:11
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Jormundgandhttp://pastebin.ca/12938 <- This is why you shouldn't try to execute multiple bash commands by separating with line breaks.09:11
ekCohmm ok09:11
Dr_Melectausif any one knows could they please pm so i can print it out and try on my laptop09:11
ekCowhat about the compiled?09:11
Crono5788No, I'm on a Pentium09:11
EircBCrono5788, if you are just routing internet you don't need G anyway09:11
transgressmy .11g works in linux...09:11
danko123456taht is for the compiled, ekco, what bob2 said.09:11
Crono5788What do you mean?09:11
Dr_Melectausbob2: could you pm me details on how to connect to the net please09:11
bob2Dr_Melectaus: no09:12
bob2Dr_Melectaus: you need to give way more details09:12
Dr_Melectauswell i will09:12
ekCohmm ok09:12
danko123456Jormundgand: no, that was cause of his sources.list09:12
bob2Dr_Melectaus: e.. what hardware you have and how you want to connect to it09:12
Crono5788Routing internet?09:12
Crono5788We already have a Linksys 802.11G router...09:12
Dr_Melectausive tried what i can to my abbilitys but in all honesty i dont  have a clue what im doing bob209:12
bob2Dr_Melectaus: you presumably know how you want to connect09:12
Crono5788And I used a Linksys PCI adapter when I had Windows...09:12
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jdizzleanyone else have problems with Xorg ati driver09:13
Dr_Melectauswell, its a USB ADSL modem (btvotager 100 usb adsl modem)09:13
danko123456yes, many ppl.09:13
danko123456jdizzle: ^09:13
jdizzleive done like 4 diff tutorials and it keeps reloading mesa drivers09:13
bob2Dr_Melectaus: ouch09:13
bob2Dr_Melectaus: that won't be fun09:13
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Dr_Melectausits detected as i seen it in the device manager, but wether its suitable to run i dont know bob209:13
Crono5788But since it's not compatible with Linux, I'm looking for an 802.11G card that is09:13
Crono5788Which I'm not finding one...09:13
Dr_Melectausbob2: :(09:13
transgressjdizzle: delete the nvidia.ko file... after you run fglrxconfig and then in the made config... change the name to xorg.conf and change the word Keyboard in the xorg.conf to keyboard09:14
Dr_Melectausif all else fails, i have a cat 5 cross over. i could try and bridge the connection from my dows machine but thats going to be impractable09:14
Crono5788Oh09:14
Crono5788I know what I can do09:14
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danko123456impractical09:14
Crono5788One of those wireless access points...09:14
jdizzletransgress: its an ati card tho09:14
brandontyrel413Hey guys09:15
Dr_Melectausffs sorry danko123456ive been up 2 days mate :(09:15
danko123456yo!09:15
Crono5788They take a wireless signal and let you use ethernet...09:15
bob2Dr_Melectaus: install the eciadsl09:15
transgressjdizzle: that's why you delete the nvidia.ko file ... it conflicts with the ati card09:15
bob2Dr_Melectaus: er, package09:15
danko123456no need to be sorry, I suggest we make him go to sleep.09:15
transgressjdizzle: locate nvidia.ko09:15
Crono5788Computer (and thus OS) independent..09:15
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brandontyrel413can ubuntu dual boot when on two different drives??? please help?09:15
transgressit's in /lib/some/shit/after/that09:15
bob2brandontyrel413: of course...09:15
danko123456brandontyrel413: I never managed it.09:16
danko123456bob2: please go ahead.09:16
Dr_Melectauseci adsl? whats that and how do i do it. or any links would be greatfull bob2 so i dont waste your time when it could be used to do something a tad more constructive09:16
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brandontyrel413hmm...09:16
Crono5788Which I guess would work out well if the new XBox doesn't come with wireless support out of the box09:16
bob2transgress: kernel modules are in /lib/modules/$(uname -r),09:16
Crono5788God damn DoA409:16
brandontyrel413So which is it?? yes or no?09:16
bob2brandontyrel413: yes09:16
transgressjdizzle: yeah what bob2 just said09:16
brandontyrel413Thanks Guys09:16
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brandontyrel413you are always a big help09:16
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jdizzletransgress: so delete the nvidia file then run fglrxconfig?09:16
bob2Dr_Melectaus: it's a package.  if you have no way to get ubuntu online, download it under windows and install the package on ubuntu from the windows drive.09:16
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danko123456bob2: http://pastebin.ca/12944 is my entry in menu.lst for my windows...09:17
bob2Dr_Melectaus: it really would be way way easier to get a proper ethernet modem/router, though.09:17
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Dr_Melectausi have a usb stick09:17
Dr_Melectausif its more than 60 mb im screwed09:17
transgressjdizzle: either or... doesn't really matter.  because you have to reboot after all that09:17
danko123456bob2: never worked, tho....09:17
Dr_Melectausi can put it on that bob2 and put it on my laptop09:17
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bob2Dr_Melectaus: it's ~140KB09:17
Sh4d_awFRANCE SAID NO !!!09:17
Dr_Melectausbut you got a link handy as to where i can download it b2s09:17
transgressjdizzle: the xorg driver you get from apt writes to XF86Config-4 for some reason... even though it's the xorg driver... you have to rename it to xorg.conf and open the file and change the word Keyboard to keyboard or it won't load X09:17
Dr_Melectausbob2**09:17
transgressthat IS IMPORTANT09:17
bob2Dr_Melectaus: http://packages.ubuntu.com/09:18
danko123456CruJones: you are in ma...09:18
bob2transgress: has that bug been reported?09:18
bob2Dr_Melectaus: but bear in mind you will have to do this all ovr again everytime you reboot the live cd09:18
transgressbob2: iuno... i'm lazy as hell though.09:18
bob2danko123456: I'm pretty sure windows won't boot from a non-primary hard disk09:18
jdizzletransgress: so u mean run the file, then edit the cfg before reboot09:18
transgressjdizzle: yes09:18
hardcampa-it will09:18
transgressjdizzle: if you don't change Keyboard to keyboard X will not load.09:19
danko123456yeah, so you meant it is possible to dual boot with something else...09:19
hardcampa-You can remap the boot with grub09:19
Dr_Melectausbob2 its just for testing and messing just now before i actualy install09:19
bob2Dr_Melectaus: so if you want to invest the effort into it, I'd install first09:19
hardcampa-think the command is called map hda,hdb something like that09:19
ekCoah ok, danko123456, fresh install of nvclock, same problem09:19
danko123456hardcampa-: please go ahead,  http://pastebin.ca/12944 is my entry in menu.lst for my windows...never worked, tho....09:19
danko123456ekCo: not sure, then...09:19
ekCosame problem with the latest version of wine..09:20
Dr_Melectausbob2 whats the name of the package im after, sorry tried scrolling up my but windows trial for xchat exspired and i have to use mirc which is really crap, cant find it up there^^09:20
danko123456man map, No manual entry for map...09:20
ekCoit says its a gcc+ error but i dont see how when i just fixed the problem for another??09:20
EircBg++09:20
hardcampa-danko check this out: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/map.html09:20
bob2Dr_Melectaus: eciadsl09:20
bob2god the xchat author is stupid09:20
Dr_Melectaus:(09:20
jdizzletransgress: so where will this file be when i make it and where should i put it09:21
danko123456nice, hardcampa- Ill check that out in the morning.09:21
Dr_Melectausim bloody pissed he/ they have done so with the windows ver09:21
transgress/etc/X11/XF86Config-409:21
nate__how do you open nautilus in the trash?  (From the CLI)09:21
hardcampa-danko that simply fools windows to believe hd1 is on hd0 so to speak09:21
transgressmv it to /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:21
danko123456bob2: haha... he is stupid, hey?09:21
bob2danko123456: yes09:21
transgressjdizzle: ^09:21
Sh4d_awright09:21
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bob2danko123456: making the windows version shareware is stupid and evil09:21
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dbernar1xchat rulez!!09:22
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ekColeafb0x@ekCo:~$ nvclock_qt  -       Segmentation fault09:22
ekCoargh wtf?09:22
transgressbob2: yeah i didn't like that either09:22
bob2ekCo: it might be oopsing your kernel09:22
bob2ekCo: there is a reason people avoid binary drivers09:22
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holycowbob2, you cannot deny the windows users deserve it tho09:22
bob2holycow: huh?09:22
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Davey*sigh* still no luck with TB :/09:23
danko123456bob2: so something I dont know and have no interest for? I never use that xchat, anyhow, except for ^^:)09:23
holycowwindows users love paying to loose their freedom09:23
ekCoargh how can i fix that then danko12345609:23
EircBI have captured windows09:23
Daveyholycow: I never paid to lose my freedom09:23
bob2holycow: then go for it, it doesn't mean linux authors have to be dicks about it09:23
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EircBit runs comfortably in a window :)09:23
Daveyholycow: I just got married ;)09:23
danko123456ekCo: I am a newb, I have no clue.09:23
bob2s/linux/FS/09:23
EircBDavey, someone paid for that09:23
nate__anyone know how to open nautilus in the trash from the cli?09:23
holycowDavey, hehe :)09:24
EircBand I bet you never leave the toilet seat up again09:24
holycowbob2, absolutely09:24
bob2ekCo: paste the last 20 lines from 'dmesg' to #flood09:24
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DaveyEircB: no, really, we were *very* cheap ;)09:24
ekCoerm dmesg?09:24
danko123456nautilus in the trash?09:24
EircBheh09:24
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bob2ekCo: a command you run...09:24
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icehola09:24
Dr_MelectausSo bob2 once ive instaled it what should i do09:24
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thoreauputicnate__: something like ` nautilus /home/user/.Trash09:24
Dr_Melectauslike what program do i run to get on the net09:24
danko123456nautilus .Trash/ maybe, nate__...09:24
bob2Dr_Melectaus: you have to set it up first09:24
Dr_Melectaussorry i must seem a total retard09:24
danko123456thoreauputic: I dnt like you:)09:25
nate__thoreauputic: that doesn't give you the Empty Trash option in the file menu though09:25
nate__thoreauputic: you still have to change places to Trash in the Places menu09:25
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bob2ekCo: so, that's not what I asked for09:25
danko123456nate ctrl+a then del...09:25
bob217:24:07           bob2 | ekCo: paste the last 20 lines from 'dmesg' to #flood09:25
Dr_Melectausyes but if i ask now bob2, it means i dont have to run from my bedroom to the living with my modem every 5 mins09:25
nate__danko123456: cmon man09:25
nate__danko123456: work with me :)09:25
thoreauputicnate__: *shrug* I don't use the trash anyway and I'm in fluxbox atm09:25
sebdchi I can't find the hoary extra's no more and this adres comes back empty: deb http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted09:26
ekCowtf bob2  which ones?09:26
bob2sebdc: ask on the forums09:26
bob2ekCo: what?09:26
danko123456nate__: ctrl+ a selects all, then del deletes...whats wrong with that?09:26
ekCowhere can i get the 20output lines?09:26
jdizzletransgress: do i want to initialize xfree86-dga in this config thing?09:26
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ekCofrom dmsg?09:26
Fator_Deehello09:26
sebdcbob2 will check09:26
bob2ekCo: run "dmesg".  it prints lines. paste them to #flood09:26
transgressjdizzle: i went mostly with defaults09:26
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danko123456bob2: nice:)09:26
nate__danko123456: its not what i want? :)09:26
bob2Dr_Melectaus: sudo pppoeconf09:26
bob2Dr_Melectaus: I think09:27
danko123456isnt it like 6 am where you are bob?09:27
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bob2Dr_Melectaus: everyone who owns those modems seems to hate them, even under windows, afaict09:27
danko123456or maybe I got it wrong...09:27
bob2danko123456: 6pm09:27
danko123456ah, yeah, I got it mixed up...09:27
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danko123456nate__: you want too much:-p that works...:)09:27
ekCobob2?09:27
danko123456ekCo: did you paste it?09:28
bob2ekCo: "dmesg > /tmp/blah.txt", then put blah.txt somewhere09:28
nate__danko123456: meh09:28
bob2ekCo: on your website or pastebin.ca09:28
danko123456or tail dmesg something something09:28
bob2no, not tail09:28
bob2I need more output, it seems his kernel is utterly screwed09:29
danko123456no, hey, that is only for files.09:29
nate__thoreauputic: is fluxbox pretty nice?  I just started using xfce and i like how light and configurable it is09:29
EircBused to be09:29
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EircBI don't think *box is being actively developed anymore09:30
EircBI still use fluxbox at work09:30
ekCobob2, one sec09:30
thoreauputicnate__: flux is very nice, but you need to edit a few files to get it just the way you want it09:30
transgressEircB: what *box isn't?09:30
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EircBfluxbox, openbox, blackbox09:30
transgressEircB: if you meant blackbox... they just had a release recently09:30
EircBreally?09:30
transgressyes09:30
jdizzletransgress: wait, does this enable 3d acceleration with the card as well?09:30
ekCobob2 http://pastebin.ca/1294509:30
nate__thoreauputic: not too hard to figure out though?  any good documentation?09:30
jdizzletransgress: cuz thats the problem im havin09:31
transgressjdizzle: yeah.  i play ut2004 most every night09:31
thoreauputicnate__: and the Hoary version is broken on my system, so I compiled it with --disable-xmb09:31
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bob2ekCo: so, the nvidia module has crapped all over your kernel, afaict09:31
ekCotransgress, how do you get preferences in ut2k4?09:31
ekColol prob09:31
ekColol09:31
EircBI wonder who picked it up09:31
thoreauputicnate__: good docs on fluxbox.org09:31
jdizzletransgress: sweet thx09:32
ekCohow can i fix it?09:32
transgressekCo: eh?  go to settings when you start it?09:32
bob2ekCo: uninstall it09:32
EircBthey didn't have a release for years09:32
bob2ekCo: or stop using nvclock09:32
Daveybtw, I never could fine the linux-k7 package :/09:32
Daveywhat packages do I need to upgrade my kernel to one that supports 1GB RAM?09:32
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bob2Davey: certainly the i686 and k7 ones do09:32
ekColol but i want to set my proper speeds etc09:33
ekColike core speeds..09:33
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Daveyright, but I need more than just the -image package, right?09:33
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ekCoits default 2d, i want it back to 550mhz etc09:33
Dr_Melectausbob2, i put the file on my laptop and exstracted it, then ran the package manager hopeing there would be some way to import it09:33
bob2ekCo: then talk to nvidia and ask them to fix their driver09:33
ekCololk09:33
Dr_Melectauswtf do i do09:33
bob2Dr_Melectaus: extracted it?09:33
jdizzletransgress: where do i change the word Keyboard to keyboard? throughout the whole file?09:33
cthulfuegobob2: there's a 960-ish Mb limit without HIGHMEM on 4G09:33
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bob2Davey: no, linux-k7 is enough09:33
Dr_Melectausit was .deb09:33
bob2cthulfuego: 896MB, but -i686-smp at least has HIGHMEM enabled09:33
transgressjdizzle: hold one sec and let me check... it's near the beginning... umm... it's under Devices09:33
Sh4d_aw3 centimes tout ca09:34
Triffid_Huntercthulfuego: it was 860Mb max on mine w/o highmem09:34
Dr_Melectausit had an option exstract here09:34
bob2Dr_Melectaus: then don't extract it09:34
cthulfuegobob2: Ah ok.09:34
bob2Dr_Melectaus: delete whatever you did09:34
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danko123456ok, well, as cartman would say.................09:34
bob2Dr_Melectaus: then: sudo dpkg -i blah.deb09:34
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Dr_Melectausjack shit happend09:34
Daveybob2: but that package doesn't exist for some reason :/09:34
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Dr_Melectausbob2 i copied the fil from my memory stick to laptop, the orig is still there09:34
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Dr_Melectauswhat do i do with it09:34
bob2Davey: yes, it does.09:34
bob2Davey: http://packages.ubuntu.com/linux-k709:35
transgressjdizzle: i'm going to PM you if that is okay?09:35
Daveylinux-image-k7 ?09:35
bob2Davey: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood09:35
bob2Davey: 17:34:23           bob2 | Dr_Melectaus: then: sudo dpkg -i blah.deb09:35
jdizzletransgress: sounds good09:35
Dr_Melectausfucking hell this is frustrateing09:35
bob2Dr_Melectaus: it's dodgy hardware with dodgy drivers09:35
bob2it's going to be frustrating09:35
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Dr_Melectausnah i dont know wtf to do with the file i downloaded bob209:35
Sh4d_awyeah09:35
nate__wow, fluxbox REALLY is light09:36
bob2Dr_Melectaus: dude09:36
Dr_Melectaushttp://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Funiverse%2Fe%2Feciadsl%2Feciadsl_0.10-1_i386.deb&md5sum=a2478f2e23fe4aab7a284ff4a9f074dc&arch=i386&type=main09:36
nate__gotta doa bunch to get it all working, i think09:36
bob2Dr_Melectaus: please read what I said, I told you exactly what to do with it, twice09:36
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Daveybob2: that do? :)09:36
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bob2ew, backports09:37
nate__thoreauputic: wow, REALLY light wm09:37
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Daveybob2: pfft09:37
nate__thoreauputic: started in an instant09:37
Dr_Melectausbob2 could you pm it i cant keep up with this convo. makeing me dizzy so many people talking O_o09:37
thoreauputicnate__: indeed09:37
bob2Davey: linux-k7 is available to you then09:37
bob2Davey: it's in hoary/restricted09:37
Daveybob2: see #flood09:37
bob2Dr_Melectaus: no, sudo dpkg -i blah.deb09:37
thoreauputicnate__: there are some nice eye-candy options like transparent menus etc though :)09:37
bob2Davey: yes, I read it09:37
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bob2Dr_Melectaus: you need to stop playing with the package manager and run the command I told you to run09:38
nate__thoreauputic: wow, 12 workspaces by default09:38
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bob2this will not work until you do09:38
Daveybob2: no, I showed you /exec -o apt-cache search linux-k7, it wasn't finding it earlier. oh well, there it is09:38
thoreauputicnate__: ? I had 4 by default - but adding more is trivial09:38
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Dr_Melectausok bob ill try that09:38
bob2Davey: yeah, weird09:38
nate__thoreauputic: haha, yep, i rarely use more than one.  can't remember the last time i did, matter of fact09:39
dsdhi im having trouble figuring out how to install ubuntu, ive read that i must make a partition using partition magic...if that is the case can someone tell me how i go about doing that...if thats not the case and ubuntu automatically resizes my windows partition and installs itself then please tell me how i do that also thanks alot09:39
Daveybob2: I assume, I have to reboot? :)09:39
thoreauputicnate__: you can switch workspaces withthe mousewheel - nice feature09:40
thoreauputicnate__: and of course you can tab your windows together with the middle mouse button09:40
Daveythoreauputic: what WM are you talking about?09:40
holycowrofl09:40
thoreauputicDavey: fluxbox09:40
holycowindeedy you can switch workspaces using roller button09:40
holycowha!09:40
Daveyoh, ugh. :)09:40
holycowthx!09:41
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thoreauputicDavey: not ugh at all - it's a nice wm09:41
nate__thoreauputic: yeah, this is more than i wanna configure right now :)  But i'll keep it on here for later.09:41
Daveyyou know, how hard would it have been for Logitech to put the fricken * lock LEDs on the GD keyboard? :/09:41
bob2Davey: once you install it, yeah09:41
Daveybrb, rebooting for new kernel.09:41
dsdanyone have the solution to my problem09:41
nate__thoreauputic: how do you change the menu?09:41
thoreauputicnate__: writing themes for it isn't too hard either ;)09:41
thoreauputicnate__: copy the default menu to say, ~/.fluxbox/mymenu and edit it in an editor, then pount init at it09:42
thoreauputic~/.fluxbox/init09:42
thoreauputic*point09:43
thoreauputicnate__: I put a "menuedit" entry in the menu so I can change it more easily09:43
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nate__thoreauputic: where is the default menu?09:44
thoreauputicnate__: it's all in the docs on fluxbox.org09:44
Davey|Ubuntuthere we go, thanks bob2 ! :D09:44
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thoreauputicnate__: do ` locate fluxbox` or ` dpkg -L | grep fluxbox `09:44
dsdanyone here that can help me with installing ubuntu as a dual boot from windows?09:44
dsdi would greatly apperciate it09:45
thoreauputicoops09:45
thoreauputicdpkg -L fluxbox I meant09:45
nate__dsd: check in www.ubuntulinux.org09:45
Davey|Ubuntudsd: I just ran the installer, it automatically configured GRUB (The boot manager) to allow booting to windows also09:45
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dsdthanks, but do i need resize my windows partition?09:45
Davey|Ubuntudsd: just make sure you already have the partitions/drives in place which you can format, I don't know how able it is to resize the windows partition.09:45
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ice_1963so format it09:46
floocan anyone tell me how to enable services in ubuntu?09:46
Davey|Ubuntudsd: go buy a cheap 20GB HDD ;)09:46
dsdlol09:46
ArrogantSo uh, what's this that happens when I hit ctrl+alt+F209:46
Davey|Ubuntufloo: enable them? how so? at boot?09:46
Davey|UbuntuArrogant: you go to a shell09:46
Fator_DeeArrogant: you can enter a command to be executed09:46
ArrogantYes, I noticed09:46
Davey|Ubuntupress ctrl+alt+F7 to get back...09:46
Fator_Deeoh, damn, there was ctrl :-|09:46
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flooit would seem so, yes09:46
Davey|UbuntuArrogant: its just a shell...09:47
ArrogantYes, I know how to get back09:47
Arrogantit said something about a tty thing09:47
dsdhmm....im using partition manager and so far ive resized my 53gig windows partion to around 48 gigs and the rest is made into two partitions: 1 is named LinuxEXT2 and the other is the swap partition...do i install ubuntu now using that config or am i doing something wrong thanks09:47
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ArrogantI don't know very much about Unix at all :(09:48
Fator_DeeArrogant: that's normal09:48
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ArrogantYeah I figured09:48
ArrogantSo uh, what's a tty?09:48
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thoreauputicteletype  ( hangover from the old days) Now it's a console09:49
ArrogantAh09:49
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ArrogantThoreau is not theraputic btw.09:49
thoreauputicArrogant: whatever you say :)09:50
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ArrogantReading Walden gave me an experience I can relate back to when I want to describe utter boredom09:50
thoreauputicArrogant: that's more a comment on you than Thoreau, old boy09:51
Arrogant:)09:51
thoreauputicArrogant: try reading "Civil Disobedience"09:51
ArrogantI might. No ponds?09:51
thoreauputichaha09:51
Dr_MelectausDamit. Sorry to say but looks like im bloody sticking with windows09:52
thoreauputicArrogant: Gandhi was inspired by it09:52
Dr_Melectaus:-C09:52
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Fator_DeeDr_Melectaus: if you feel like that09:52
ArrogantDr. M: Why?09:52
ArrogantOh yeah, tab completion.09:52
ArrogantDuh.09:52
ArrogantDr_Melectaus, why?09:52
Dr_MelectausBecause i dont have the first effing clue about nix09:52
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Dr_Melectauslet alone ubuntu09:53
Fator_Deeand you can't learn?09:53
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Fator_Deeok09:53
ArrogantMeh, Ubuntu is a pretty simple distro :)09:53
Dr_Melectauscant even install a feckin package09:53
ArrogantSynaptic, check it off, Apply.;09:53
Arrogant;)09:53
Dr_MelectausArrogant: exactly, a simple distro. i cant do shit with it there for i think im stuck with dows09:53
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Fator_Deedid you know how to install programs when you first laid eyes on windoze, I sure as hell couldn't09:53
flooI tried to play a cd and Igot an error message telling me that the hald service isn't running and to enable it, how do I do this please?09:53
johnnybezakhey guys09:54
Jormundgandfloo: /etc/init.d/hal start09:54
johnnybezakany of you ever had your laptop battery refilled?09:54
floocheers jhormund09:54
ArrogantI wouldn't be running Ubuntu if Windows actually ran on this computer09:54
Arrogantbecause I already have all my Windows installers downloaded09:54
RydekullFator_Dee: well.. the first time one tried one kinda figured out ya just had to do a repetitive click :)09:54
ArrogantDialup is such a hassle.09:54
Dr_Melectausarrogant it doesnt show. its on the desktop (put it on mem stick then desktop) and its so i can run my usb adls modem09:55
Dr_Melectausits a .deb09:55
ArrogantAh okay09:55
Fator_DeeRydekull: but still, it's only a matter of learning09:55
Dr_Melectausbob2 said do  sudo dpkg -i blah.deb09:55
Arrogantsudo dpkg -i blah.deb09:55
transgresshaha i love the topic where it mentions breezy... nice going bob209:55
ArrogantYes09:55
RydekullFator_Dee: of course, but I just had to say it's very easy to learn :)09:55
Dr_Melectausbut it says there was an error proccessing09:55
thoreauputicDr_Melectaus: first do ` cd Desktop `09:55
Dr_Melectausok09:55
ArrogantYeah you might want to get on the Desktop first :)09:55
DaveyDr_Melectaus: you replaced blah.deb with the .deb file you're trying to install, right?09:55
Dr_Melectausim in the root terminal09:56
Dr_Melectausyes davey09:56
ArrogantOkay don't go to root09:56
ArrogantThat's what sudo is for09:56
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Dr_Melectausso what terminal do i run09:56
Fator_Deea normal terminal09:56
Dr_Melectausok then09:56
ArrogantApplications > System Tools > Terminal09:56
Dr_Melectausbrb09:56
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ArrogantAt the bottom of the list :)09:57
thoreauputicDr_Melectaus: right click the desktop and choose "terminal"09:57
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thoreauputicquicker09:57
ArrogantYou could also do ctrl+alt+F2.09:57
Arrogant;)09:57
wowdebawe man i wan't my cd to be shiped!09:57
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wowdeb*who many times is that said round here :P*09:57
Fator_DeeArrogant: don't scary the poor guy ;-)09:57
Fator_Dee*scare09:57
ArrogantHehe. He wouldn't be able to get back, and I don't think he'd know to run irc09:58
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Rydekullhttp://a1.interclick.com/Interstitial.aspx?adId=0&ind=&wsid=88&requesturl=http%3A//www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/dilbert-20050504.html09:58
Dr_MelectausITS WORKING09:58
Rydekull:D09:58
Dr_Melectauskick ass09:58
Rydekullargh09:58
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Dr_Melectausthanks everyone09:58
Rydekullannoying commercial things09:58
Arrogant:)09:59
wowdebhey does the apt that comes with ubuntu come with apt-get-groupinstall09:59
wowdebor what ever its called09:59
thoreauputicwowdeb: ...09:59
ArrogantDr_Melectaus, you'd say Linux kicks ass a lot more often if you were a programmer09:59
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wowdebits like the group install in yum09:59
ArrogantIt's phenominal how things actually compile on Linux09:59
Dr_Melectausbob2 i got the package installed, what should i do now10:00
Rydekullwowdeb: you shouldnt even think about such foul things as yum :/10:00
thoreauputicArrogant: yeah, weird concept ;-)10:00
wowdebRydekull: lol yeah man10:00
Daveygrrr, this shouldn't be so fricken hard :/10:00
Fator_Deebut atleast yum is yummy10:01
ArrogantHehe.10:01
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ArrogantI think it might have something to do with everything worth compiling is written to compile on Linux, but that might just be me.10:01
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Dr_MelectausArrogant. thats me got my modem installed but how the hell do i use it to connect to the net10:01
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Daveyseriously, does anyone have FF and TB working where you can click mailto: links in FF whilst TB is open?10:02
Dr_Melectausive tried about every prog that has the word network in it but havent had any lu8ck10:02
Dr_Melectausluck**10:02
wowdebThis package adds four new commands to apt for installing, removing and viewing groups of packages: apt-cache groupnames apt-cache showgroup <groupname> [<groupname2> ..]  apt-get groupinstall <groupname> [<groupname2> ..]  apt-get groupremove <groupname> [<groupname2> ..]  The group information is retrieved from comps.xml used by anaconda (the system installer) and other package management tools of RHL/RHEL/FC distributions.10:02
wowdebi don't know10:02
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wowdebi'll just wait untilll i get the cds10:02
thor|awayDavey: look in about:config for mailto10:02
Rydekullused by anaconda (the system installer)10:02
wowdebspose10:02
Rydekullbleh10:02
Dr_Melectausbob2 i got the package installed, what should i do now10:02
thor|awaygotta go - later guys10:03
TezkahDavey: yeah, there should also be a place for default mail links10:03
ArrogantI wish they'd hurry up and give access to all config options in the GUI10:03
Fator_DeeArrogant: in FF?10:03
ArrogantFator_Dee, yeah.10:03
Daveythor|away: I have that done, but it keeps opening the Profile Chooser which can't open my profile cause I have TB open...10:03
ArrogantOf course, not ALL of them10:04
ArrogantBut the ones that are usable.10:04
ArrogantSome of them are still in testing phases10:04
ArrogantAlso, I wish Gnome could flash the taskbar >:10:04
Fator_DeeArrogant: well, maybe it's because of that they are not in the gui :-p10:04
Dr_MelectausHow do i connect to the net with ubuntu10:04
Daveywowdeb: which?10:04
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TezkahDr_Melectaus: how do you connect to the net with any other operating system?10:04
Dr_Melectausuhm well with dows its a bit easier10:05
Dr_Melectausive never used nix before10:05
wowdebDavey: which what?10:05
Dr_Melectausi installed a package so i can use my usb adls modem but how i config/ use it to connect i dont habe a clue10:05
Daveywowdeb: package was the description of?10:05
Dr_Melectaushave**10:05
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DaveyArrogant: uh, dude, time to create a startup file ;)10:06
Dr_Melectausarrogant. what prog do i go to to config my net connection10:06
ArrogantDavey, I know, once I find out how to do that :)10:06
ArrogantI just installed Warty the other day10:06
Arrogant'cause my CDs finally came.10:06
Dr_Melectausarrogant. what prog do i go to to config my net connection mate?10:07
DaveyArrogant: warty? you upgraded to hoary right? :)10:07
ArrogantDavey, I would if I weren't on dialup10:07
ice_1963how can you apt-get install sun-j2re1.510:07
ice_1963java -version ?????10:07
DaveyArrogant: ugh10:07
ArrogantGetting the modem to work was a bitch I can tell you.10:07
wowdebDavey: the stuff i pasted before was just and apt rpm that had special features like groupinstal10:07
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Dr_Melectausso what do you go to Arrogant10:08
DaveyDr_Melectaus: try this: http://ubuntuguide.org/#rp-pppoe10:08
DaveyDr_Melectaus: btw, thats an awesome site :)10:08
ArrogantDr_Melectaus, I did pppconfig10:08
Dr_Melectausthanks Davey10:08
ArrogantWhich won't help you I don't thinkl10:08
nate__what irc client is everyone using?10:08
Arrogantthink*10:08
Arrogantnate__, XChat10:08
Fator_Deenate__: irssi10:08
Triffid_Hunterkvirc10:08
wowdebDavey: but if u ment what CDs im waiting for im waiting for hoary hedgehog10:08
nate__Arrogant, thats what i'm using too, its kindof annoying that its systray plugin is so underdeveloped10:09
NicPyeah i think so to nate10:09
NicPi always close it10:09
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ArrogantI don't really like any IRC clients10:09
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NicPand then realise its not in the system tray anymore10:09
nate__NicP, know of a better irc client?10:09
NicPnah i like xchat the best10:09
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NicPi just wish the systray thing was better10:09
nate__NicP, and closing the window doesn't send it to the systray, it kills it10:10
nate__how annoying10:10
NicPlike when i closed it it minimised it10:10
NicPyeah i know10:10
EnkiduOk i have discovered something very bizare...sound will only work on my system if i download the kernel source and compile it...but not necesarily run that kernel10:10
NicPplus you have to double click on the icon10:10
Fator_Deeirssi is great because you can just leave it in the "screen"10:10
HoxzerNicP: are you willing to lose your virginity?10:10
nate__NicP, yeah, lame10:10
nate__Fator_Dee, how do you mean?10:10
Fator_Deenate__: it runs in the background10:11
NicPHoxzer, err what?10:11
nate__Fator_Dee, ummm, so does xchat10:11
Hoxzer>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<10:11
[Chameleon] It seems that AMD64 isn't getting much attention... I'm trying to install several packages on Hoary from the universe, multiverse, extras, etc. and dependencies are just not there... Anybody else running AMD64?10:11
nate__Fator_Dee, although i used irssi before as well, i want a good irc client that does well with the systray10:11
[Chameleon] It's becoming frustrating.10:11
Fator_Deenate__: um, but if you logoff it'll close?10:11
NicPhoxzer, do u have a time machine?10:11
nate__Fator_Dee, thats behavior i like out of an IRC client10:12
Fator_Deenate__: doh, do "man screen" I can't explain it so well :-\10:12
nate__Fator_Dee, ahhhh, right, i see what you mean, you can run it in another terminal, a vty10:12
Fator_Deenate__: and you can access it through network10:13
nate__Fator_Dee, or is that not the right acronym, vty10:13
johnnybezakhey guys are there any issues you guys know of with netgear wireless routers and linux?10:13
nate__Fator_Dee, how so?10:13
Fator_Deenate__: so the irssi runs at some server that is 24/7 on and you can irc from there10:13
Fator_Deenate__: by ssh'ing to the server10:13
nate__Fator_Dee, but how does one access the irssi process that is already running?10:14
Dr_Melectausbob2 you about?10:14
Fator_Deenate__: by running it in screen10:14
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nate__Fator_Dee, hmmm, ok10:14
Fator_Deenate__: it might be clearer if you try to use the screen program10:15
nate__Fator_Dee, i was just reading that, but i don't have much use for that10:15
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ArrogantI read the manpages and I still don't understand what it does10:16
Fator_DeeArrogant: use it10:16
Fator_DeeArrogant: type, "screen", then press ctrl+a,ctrl+d, then type "screen -list"10:17
Choubakactrl+a,d is enough10:17
Fator_Deeoh :-\10:18
ArrogantHeh10:18
Fator_Deewell, everyday you learn something new :-)10:18
nate__so, this has done what for me?10:18
Arroganttty3 has one from when I ran screen earlier10:18
nate__ha, i don't even use multiple workspaces10:19
quailsterI want to know what do people here use for P2P (like eMule) in Linux?10:19
nate__no use for screen, i think10:19
Fator_Deenate__: maybe not for you10:19
JohnFightsanyone know how to fix the menus in firefox when using kde so they dont look ugly and they text is small10:20
Arrogantquailster, probably torrents actually10:20
nate__Fator_Dee, thats what i meant, heh :)10:21
word_virusquailster: I use nicotine (a python implementation of Soulseek) sometimes10:21
word_virusquailster: I think it's in Synaptic10:21
Fator_Deenate__: but keep that in mind, it's really good program though10:21
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nate__JohnFights, you might need to install true type fonts, that tends to change the appearance of wm's a great deal10:21
quailsterword_virus: thanks, I must try it out10:21
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=== nate__ remotes, but only for remote storage.
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nate__Fator_Dee, I will, thanks.  I like being able to monitor everything running on my computer from one window, however.10:22
nate__thoreauputic is my hero.10:22
Arroganthey thoreauputic.10:22
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thoreauputicnate__: why ?10:23
nate__thoreauputic you save kittens from trees and help old ladies cross the street.10:23
johnnybezakhey guys is there a way to setup a closer mirror the u.s one is slow10:23
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thoreauputichahah10:23
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JohnFightsis there something wrong with the package manager? anytime i go to update the packages it fails10:23
quailsterword_virus: ist's not in synaptic, at least not in warthog10:23
nate__johnnybe2ak, you could create your own mirror. :)10:23
safezonehi room10:24
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word_virusquailster: sorry, coulda sworn that's where I got it.  Musta built it from source...10:24
safezonei need help any experts here10:24
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TezkahEXPERTS?10:25
nate__word_virus, he might not have the correct repos10:25
mackitohello10:25
BoD_SWAThttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34516  --> Can anyone please help?10:25
nate__experts, safezone, you will find no such thing here, only people with ideas, and usually insane ones10:25
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safezoneok10:25
ArrogantOr a profound lack of ideas and a whole lot of nonsense.10:25
nate__so true10:25
ArrogantUsually typifies the internet :)10:26
safezonecan any one tell me how to install using this linux10:26
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nate__safezone, synaptic10:26
thoreauputicoops10:26
thoreauputic*room10:26
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nate__safezone, are you trying to install Ubuntu, or install something ON ubuntu?10:27
mackitosomebody knows hot to put an external monitor next to the monitor of the laptop? i plug in the monitor but i get the same image...10:27
ArrogantI uninstalled Ubuntu once.10:27
ArrogantIt broke my bootloader.10:27
ArrogantGood stuff10:27
safezoneinstalling some thing on it10:27
=== Arrogant reinstalled very quickyl.
Arrogantquickly*10:27
nate__safezone, run "sudo synaptic" in a terminal10:27
thoreauputicArrogant: that's Ubuntu's version of "lockin" ;-)10:28
Fator_DeeArrogant: maybe Ubuntu saw that there was nothing to be saved so he tried to destroy every last piece of evidence of the malicious evil that resided there10:28
Arrogant:P10:28
Fator_DeeI'd vote on that10:28
ArrogantThere is a lot of Python code to be saved.10:29
ArrogantIf my computer went all I'd have left is what is up at uselesspython.com10:29
quailsterIt seems like Python is very popular among Ubuntu users10:29
ArrogantWhich happens to be two very useless script.10:29
Arrogantscripts*10:29
Fator_DeeI suggest that you introduce yourself to backups10:29
mackitonobody knows what I've to do, so? for putting one monitor next to another?10:29
ArrogantBah.10:29
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Fator_Deeor mirror your important files on the net :-)10:30
nate__US10:30
quailstermackito: You need a video card that can support it.10:30
transgressmackito: make first your desk has enough room, then lift a second monitor and sit it next to the first one10:30
ArrogantFator_Dee, I'd mirror if I didn't have dialup, ick.10:30
mackito:)10:30
nate__Arrogant, oh dear, get broadband10:30
mackitothat i've already made10:30
nate__Arrogant, join the 21st cent10:30
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JohnFightscan anyone help when i go to update the packages synaptic for ubuntu it just says failed when downloading10:30
Arrogantnate__, thanks for the awesome advice10:30
transgressmackito: in seriousness though, you will either need to vid cards, or a video card with two heads10:30
Fator_DeeArrogant: dialup is... old...10:30
mackitoand i've connected the two monitors10:30
nate__Arrogant, I try :)10:30
ArrogantFator_Dee, oh really? :)10:30
Rydekullnate__: ... i buy a 200 one for the same price...10:30
transgressmackito: what kind of card?10:30
mackitonow i need to display a continous desktop10:31
Fator_DeeArrogant:yes, really10:31
mackitoi've a laptop with kubuntu10:31
nate__Rydekull, the size is critical, mine is very very very very small10:31
mackitobut in the control center10:31
BoD_SWAThttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34516    |---> Anyone? (summary: my Pioneer DVDplayer doesn't work)10:31
nate__Rydekull, its a thumb-drive replacement10:31
mackitoin display i can't see the optiom10:31
Rydekullnate__: ahh, ok, that explains the high price :P10:31
nate__Rydekull, indeed, the 40 GB model was $10 cheaper, but 10 times larger10:32
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quailsterI have never setup dual monitors on 1 computer before, but I did share two monitor on two computer using the same mouse and keyboard10:32
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mvlinuxhi all10:32
nate__quailster, kvm switch?10:32
quailsterno, I just used VNC10:32
quailsterso that when my mouse reach the edge of the screen it switches to the other computer10:33
mackitotransgress: i don't know the name of my card10:33
transgressmackito: lspci10:33
mackitoit's a card that just comes with the laptop10:34
mvlinuxi need help i cant play .MP3 files in ubuntu Live CD but i can here the system sound10:34
Daveyquailster: look at Synaptic, it'll probably be better for you :)10:34
nate__quailster, then you'll be very interested in intel's upcoming computer partitioning technology10:34
Daveymvlinux: Ubuntu doesn't include MP3 support by default10:34
Daveysorry, not SYnaptic10:34
ford41CThello, how can we change the first part of the hostname?10:34
Daveyits called uhm, Synergy :)10:34
quailsterDavey: Synaptic is a package manager though10:34
Davey^^ yes, Synergy is what I meant :)10:35
Fator_DeeSynsynsyn, all the same :-)10:35
mvlinuxDavey, aha thanx10:35
Daveyit *just* does the mouse/keyboard sharing over multi machines/OSs10:35
mackitotransgress: lspci?10:35
Fator_Deeit'll come out with tab-complete10:35
transgressyeah i need to get synergy set up... i actually have two mice and keyboards for my two computers sitting next to each other10:36
transgressmackito: it's a command10:36
Daveywhen I click a mailto: link in FF and TB is not open, it opens up TB and give me a new message with the e-mail in there, however, when TB is already running, I get the Profile Manager window, and when I choose my profile and click to open it, it says its in use (obviously) :/ (Hoary)10:36
mackitoyes but, the results are very long10:36
mackito:)10:36
quailsterDavey: thanks, Synergy is it.10:36
transgressDavey: yeah that's a TB thing in order to not allow multiple instances to run... so don't leave it running.10:36
thoreauputicmvlinux: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats10:36
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Dr_Melectausi wish bob2 was about :(10:38
mackitotransgress: i think my card it suports dual monitor because with windows it works10:38
quailstereveryone: is NTFS write still not recommended in Linux?10:38
Dr_Melectausmackito: what kinf of graphics card have you got?10:38
bob2quailster: it just doesn't work without captive ntfs10:38
transgressmackito: look for the video card name in lspci10:38
Dr_Melectausohhh bob2 is here10:38
mackito0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)10:38
mackitoDr_Melectaus:10:38
weedarI have a Logitech USB Desktop Microphone but I can't seem to find information on how to use it in linux, any takers? :)10:38
mackitois this possible?10:39
mvlinuxthoreauputic, thanx  i'm reading now :)10:39
quailsterbob2: what do you mean by captive?10:39
Dr_Melectausbob2 got the package installed from earlier10:39
Dr_Melectausfancy telling me how i get connection set up now :-\10:39
bob2quailster: a thing called "captive-ntfs", which loads the windows NTFS driver into the linux kernel10:39
bob2Dr_Melectaus: I did tell you, hours ago10:39
thoreauputicDr_Melectaus: no, bob2 isn't "actually" here10:39
Dr_Melectausi done the terminal command bob210:39
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quailsterbob2: thanks10:39
thoreauputicoops, yes he is...10:39
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thoreauputicheh10:39
Dr_Melectausbut what option do i go to to config my connection10:40
bob2Dr_Melectaus: sudo pppconfig10:40
bob2in a terminal10:40
Dr_Melectausthere isnt exactly a specific prog to do so10:40
Dr_Melectausok10:40
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Dr_Melectausthank you10:40
weedarmvlinux: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/ is a great help when installing ubuntu for the first time, you might want to check it out10:40
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mvlinuxr thes a dirct command to install xmms like: yum install xmms-mp3 ( in fedora) ?10:40
nate__is there an ubuntu install that installs xfce as the wm by default, instead of gnome or kde?10:40
Fator_Deemvlinux: yes10:41
kamstrupmvlinux: sudo apt-get install xmms10:41
thoreauputicmvlinux: enable the universe repo and ` sudo apt-get install xmms`10:41
weedarmvlinux: The ubuntuguide has instructions for installing xmms among other things, like dvd-playback ;)10:41
mvlinuxweedar,it's very nice and it's helping10:41
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thoreauputicmvirkkil: you need to uncomment the entries in /etc/apt/sources.list or use settings in synaptic10:42
weedarThe guide really helped me alot, actually the best guide to installing lots of useful software for any debian-based linux I've seen10:42
thoreauputicum - that was for mvlinux , sorry10:42
nate__anyone know?10:42
|Ivancho|Hi i need some help to configure a LAN betwen Ubuntu Hoary and Winxp :P Some help?10:42
mvirkkilthoreauputic: Wha?, oh, ok.10:43
mvirkkilthoreauputic: :)10:43
Triffid_Hunter|Ivancho|: they should all coexist quite happily...10:43
thoreauputicnate__: there was some talk of such, but if it happened or not I don't know10:43
nate__thoreauputic, thanks :)10:43
weedarAnyone set up a usb microphone in linux?10:43
thoreauputicmvirkkil: sorry :)10:43
mvlinux:)10:43
mvirkkilthoreauputic: No problem :-)10:43
|Ivancho|yeah i know but if i dont configure the ip in xp i have a low connectivity problem and if i do i dont see the host :(10:44
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|Ivancho|its the first time that i configure a lan with ubuntu and i just discovery the command ifconfig ( with this u can imagine my lvl :) )10:45
thoreauputicnate__: you could achieve the same thing with a "server" install, plus xfce4 and x-window-system with gdm or whatever10:45
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thoreauputicnate__: more work though, of course :)10:46
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nate__thoreauputic, probably not worth it :)10:47
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ArrogantI have to make some choices10:48
ArrogantI have heard some awesome things about OSX10:48
thoreauputicnate__: well, it's an option on old machines: i did something similar on Debian with fluxbox for a P200 mmx10:48
ArrogantBut it is very disgustingly expensive :(10:48
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thoreauputicArrogant: i have an iBook g4 running Ubuntu ( I hardly ever boot into OS-X )10:49
ArrogantWhy not?10:49
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thoreauputicArrogant: only down side is the Broadcom wireless isn't supported in Linux10:49
OConnorallo10:50
OConnor???10:50
thoreauputicArrogant: I played with OS-X, but I prefer Linux10:50
ArrogantAny problems you had with OSX specifically that I should watch out for?10:50
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thoreauputicArrogant: anyway I can use mac-on-linux for OS-X if I want to10:50
OConnorHELP????10:50
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thoreauputicArrogant: not problems really - I like to use nfs and it's a pain to set up on OS-X10:51
blaroegood morning10:51
ArrogantAh.10:51
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ArrogantMy mom says "Why use Linux nobody uses Linux, why do you have to be different all the time"10:51
benjamin1anyone here having problems accessing the backport servers?10:51
ArrogantAt which point I laugh because she knows nothing about computers :)10:52
[Chameleon] benjamin1: use a mirror.10:52
thoreauputicArrogant: evidently10:52
blaroeI am having difficulty getting dhcp to set my hostname on my dns server - anyone come across this?10:52
HC-tell your mom to stfu noob10:52
ArrogantHC-, I want to be able to use my computer still10:52
safezonenate still here10:52
thoreauputicArrogant: tell her to RTFM ;)10:52
[Chameleon] benjamin1: direct access to the main server is now disallowed. You must use a mirror10:52
Arrogant:D10:52
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blaroethe hosts and hostname fiels are correct10:52
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blaroenothing in the wiki I could find to help10:53
Tezkahhelp10:53
safezonehay i need help10:53
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TezkahI have a problem10:53
Tezkaheverything is working properly10:53
Tezkah... this isn't right10:53
Tezkahk3b just ejected my CD =\10:53
[Chameleon] hehehe10:53
IIIEarswow users ate all the bandwidth on back port servers?10:53
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[Chameleon] IIIEars: yeah10:53
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safezoneany one here10:54
eggme?10:54
Madpilothi all... can anyone tell me why I'm not getting sound in some games in Ubuntu? FlightGear & SAR, specifically...10:54
Madpilotmy sound works just fine elsewhere, too10:54
safezonehellow , hellow  any body thetre10:54
eggumm,me too ^_^10:54
[Chameleon] Madpilot: probably that those games are hard-coded to use the old DSP interface instead of the new ALSA.10:55
[Chameleon] Madpilot: maybe10:55
[Chameleon] :)10:55
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eggI am here.10:55
Daveyegg: joy!10:55
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benjamin1anyone know where i can get the backport mirrors?10:55
OConnorim french and i need help please10:55
thoreauputicMadpilot: try using `killall esd` before running the game10:55
IIIEarsMadpilot - (this newbie had luck by killing ESD)10:56
OConnor?????????????,10:56
egg??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????10:56
Madpilotwill try "killall ESD", just a second...10:56
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mofOConnor: simply ask10:56
thoreauputicOConnor: vous pouvez parler Francais au canal #ubuntu-fr10:56
OConnorok10:56
thoreauputicOConnor: /join #ubuntu-fr10:56
jdizzleanyone get error activating XKB configuration on login before10:56
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jdizzle_XKB_RULES_NAMES_BACKUP(STRING) = "xfree86", "pc101", "us", "", ""  i have this error10:57
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jdizzleor not error but w/e10:57
Madpilotcool, killall ESD seems to work.10:57
thoreauputicMadpilot: esd (lower case)10:57
OConnormerci thoreauputic10:57
thoreauputicOConnor: de rien :)10:57
Madpilotthoreauputic: right, lowercase. it did work, anyway!10:57
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thoreauputicMadpilot: cool :)10:58
ArrogantSo if I wanted to build a robot, Ubuntu would be the right thing to put into its left shoe, right?10:58
[Chameleon] Madpilot: right, because ESD maintains a chokehold on the DSP device10:58
[Chameleon] Madpilot: there was a fix... um.. hold.10:58
Madpilotthoreauputic: is there any way of automating killall esd -- run prog -- esd on prog end?10:59
Fator_DeeArrogant: depends on what you want that shoe to be capable of doing10:59
IIIEarslol - embarrassed - poor thoreauputic already very busy took 2 lines to correct my info. - ugh (going back to a quiet corner)10:59
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[Chameleon] Madpilot: /etc/esound/esd.conf10:59
thoreauputicMadpilot: better is to follow the "fix sound" entry on http://ubuntuguide.org10:59
ArrogantFator_Dee, compiling of course10:59
ArrogantWhat kind of shoe would it be if it couldn't compile?11:00
[Chameleon] Madpilot: spawn_options=-terminate -nobeeps -as 211:00
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Fator_DeeArrogant: a shoe that can't compile11:00
Fator_DeeArrogant: isn't that... obvious11:00
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ArrogantFator_Dee, touche.11:00
Arrogante'*11:00
thoreauputicMadpilot: I have done `chmod -x /usr/bin/esd` here (esd is a pain) but... don't do this at home, kids...11:00
ArrogantHmm, Ubuntu doesn't have the alt character inserts.11:00
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Madpilotthoreauputic: is this the 'fix sound' entry you mean: http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly11:01
Fator_DeeArrogant: , 11:01
[Chameleon] Madpilot: yes, that's it.11:01
Fator_DeeArrogant: it has11:01
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Arrogantoh.11:01
thoreauputicMadpilot: looking11:01
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pschulz01ubuntu11:02
Madpilot[Chameleon] , thoreauputic: this will replace esd with something else, I think?11:02
thoreauputicMadpilot: dmix, from memory11:02
Arroganttouch11:02
ArrogantMan that's not very handy.11:02
thoreauputicHow do you guys do those accents?11:02
Fator_Deethoreauputic: just press an accent and then a letter11:03
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Fator_Dee, , 11:03
thoreauputicFator_Dee: erm.. on a US style keyboard?11:03
Fator_Deethoreauputic: erm, change to finnish style :-|11:03
Arroganthehe.11:03
Fator_Deeyour using the wrong one11:04
Fator_Dee:-p11:04
ArrogantThat's one thing that I like about the Mac keyboard11:04
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MadpilotFator_Dee: those come out as little black diamonds in my IRC display - what were they supposed to be?11:04
IIIEarshehe11:04
Fator_DeeMadpilot: e accent, I suppose we have different character encoding11:04
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thoreauputicMadpilot: switch your client to utf-8 I think11:05
IIIEarsIs there a quick fix to restore open apps to the task bar?11:05
Fator_Deethoreauputic: I use 8859-1 :-|11:05
MadpilotFator_Dee: Obviously... I'm using Opera 8's IRC client, not sure which encoding it defaults to...11:05
Fator_Deethoreauputic: that's the prob11:05
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[Chameleon] Madpilot: Try following that guide though step 6 only and see if that helps you.11:06
thoreauputicFator_Dee: hmm - I can see the accents here on utf-811:06
IIIEarsThe open icons for apps are missing.11:06
Fator_Deethoreauputic: oh11:06
[Chameleon] Madpilot: doing so will not replace esd11:06
Fator_DeeMadpilot: then the prob is on your side :-)11:06
Madpilot[Chameleon] : will try that in a minute11:06
Fator_DeeMadpilot: use a proper client :-)11:06
MadpilotFator_Dee: yeah, except that Opera claims to already be using UTF-8 for this IRC server...11:06
MadpilotFator_Dee: will have to bug report this to Opera...11:07
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johnnybezakhey guys whats the wiki page for prelinking.?11:09
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jaysinis there anyway i can view webcams using GAIM messenger?11:10
Madpilot[Chameleon] : tried the esd.conf editing, no sound in FlightGear again...11:11
Madpilot[Chameleon] : so, is replacing esd to get some stuff working going to break anything that works right now?11:11
ice_1963it seems like the add on cd has been discontinued why ????????11:12
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CarlK_johnnybe2ak - prelinking?11:14
Amaranthice_1963: it wasn't exactly legal11:14
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lesshastehow do you flush your local dns cache?11:14
[Chameleon] Madpilot: I don't know. I haven't replaced esd.11:14
[Chameleon] Madpilot: the config file changes are all I've done so far.11:14
Fator_DeeAmaranth: what was the prob?11:14
Amaranthjaysin: no, a seperate project was working on that, dunno that status11:14
[Chameleon] Madpilot: in fact, trying to install the referenced library failed for me.. it was not found.11:14
AmaranthFator_Dee: Besides the fact that shipping Java and w32codecs is blatant copyright infringement?11:15
Fator_DeeAmaranth: I ask because I don't know :-|11:15
Madpilot[Chameleon] : oh well, will experiment...  according to Synaptic I've already got ALSA installed, though...11:15
Daveyanyone else have issues with the FIrefox mplayer plugin?11:15
AmaranthFator_Dee: You didn't know that distributing windows dlls files was illegal? :)11:16
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jaysinAmaranth, thanks :) if i can't view can i install yahoo messenger?11:16
AmaranthDavey: besides the fact that it sucks?11:16
Fator_DeeAmaranth: I didn't know w32codecs include windows dlls11:16
Amaranthjaysin: Does yahoo make messenger for linux? you'd have to install it manually11:16
Fator_Deebut now I do11:16
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AmaranthFator_Dee: thus the w32 :)11:17
Fator_Deeobviously11:17
jaysinAmaranth, i saw a link for a lunux version on the website... shouldnt that work?11:17
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Amaranthjaysin: it might11:18
ice_1963well i have the add on lol :o)-11:18
Madpilot[Chameleon] : have to reboot to see if it works... back in a moment...11:18
Burgundaviajaysin, does gaim not work for you?11:18
Amaranthjaysin: but their linux version might not have webcam support either11:18
jaysindamn... lol11:18
Amaranthice_1963: using w32codecs is illegal11:18
dooglushow can I find which package contains the gnome version of the vlc media player?11:18
Amaranthdooglus: there is no gnome version, it's just wxvlc11:18
thoreauputicAmaranth: actually the hoary vlc appears to be gtk211:19
dooglusAmaranth: ok.  why are there packages called 'vlc-gnome' and 'gvlc', both devoid of binaries?11:19
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Amaranththoreauputic: no, it's wxwidgets, wxwidgets uses gtk211:19
Amaranthdooglus: read their descriptions11:19
jaysinAmaranth, how would i try a manual install of yahoo?11:19
thoreauputicAmaranth: at least it looks like it - ah I see, my bad11:19
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dooglusaah, i see.11:20
Amaranththoreauputic: that's why wxwidgets is supposed to be good. on linux it uses gtk2, on windows it uses win32, on OS X it uses carbon11:20
thoreauputicAmaranth: right I see11:20
BurgundaviaAmaranth, on debian and ubuntu, wxwidgets currently uses gtk1.211:20
AmaranthBurgundavia: in breezy and debian, sure11:20
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BurgundaviaAmaranth, and hoary11:21
AmaranthBurgundavia: hoary shipped with wx2.5, which uses gtk211:21
dooglusi read on here a few days back that quite a few people reckon vlc is the best.  i find it keeps crashing, the interface is clunky, it doesn't maximize properly, and lots of other problems.  I'm wondering if I might be running a different version?11:21
Amaranthdooglus: i'm one of the ones that said it was the best :)11:21
DaveyAmaranth: you use FF+TB?11:21
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Amaranthdooglus: the real best is totem, vlc is the best when totem won't play a file11:21
thoreauputicdooglus: people's mileage seems to vary a lot with media players, I've noticed11:21
AmaranthDavey: firefox, yeah11:21
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DaveyAmaranth: the script in Hoary to pass e-mail address to TB when its running is b0rke, trying to find a fix :/11:22
Amaranth?11:22
dooglusAmaranth: mplayer seems to be pretty good, although it doesn't play well with window managers in my experience11:22
thoreauputicAmaranth: I find xine-ui more reliable than totem here11:22
Amaranththoreauputic: *shudder*11:22
thoreauputicAmaranth: well, it works for me *g*11:22
thoreauputicso does xfmedia11:23
slonocodedoes anyone have a working wintv card setup for card= and tuner= ?11:23
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DaveyHURRAH! I got it!11:25
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MadpilotOK, I'm back; FlightGear now has sound! SAR doesn't but I'll work on it tomorrow...11:26
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|Ivancho|Hi someone has configured vmware lan connection?11:27
dooglusggggI tried xfmedia.  it keeps stealing the keyboard focus when it's full-screened, so that's no good to me11:28
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MichaelDiederichg'day11:32
dooglusg'day11:32
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johnnybezakhow can I see if my old ati has 3d support in the free drivers11:32
BurgundaviaMadpilot, SAR?11:32
MichaelDiederichi just installed sun-j2sdk1.5 but there is no java compailer?11:32
MadpilotBurgundavia: http://wolfpack.twu.net/SearchAndRescue/11:32
[Chameleon] Madpilot: congrats!11:33
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[Chameleon] Search and Rescue is fun.11:33
Fator_Deewhat's it like?11:33
=== Burgundavia $#@$% Breezy Xchat bug
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Madpilot[Chameleon] : yes, but right now SAR has no sound, and it isn't talking to my USB joystick! it does look cool, though!11:33
MichaelDiederich.oO(bbl..)11:33
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BurgundaviaMadpilot, it should just work11:34
[Chameleon] Burgundavia: Hoary just works.11:35
MadpilotBurgundavia: that's the theory, anyway! SAR is a flight sim, if you didn't follow that URL...11:35
[Chameleon] Burgundavia: Breezy has a ways to go before it's mature.11:35
Fator_DeeBurgundavia: breezy *will* work, not just right now11:35
[Chameleon] yes11:35
Burgundavia[Chameleon] , I do some devlelopment for Ubnuntu, so I am well aware11:35
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thoreauputicBurgundavia: I notice /lastlog seems not to work with the hoary version of Xchat - is this known? Or am I missing a config option or something?11:35
[Chameleon] Burgundavia: yet you still say it "should just work"?11:35
Burgundavia[Chameleon] , refering to Madpilot's SAR issue with the joystick11:36
Burgundaviathoreauputic, no idea, file a bug11:36
[Chameleon] Burgundavia: gotcha.11:36
thoreauputicBurgundavia: heh - i just tried it and it works now (no idea what the probleem was before - so no bug ;)11:37
Burgundaviathoreauputic, works on my version11:37
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MadpilotI'll have to play with jsconfig. the stick was working in earlier...11:37
Burgundaviajust that right-clicking on a link causes the whole program to got down11:37
thoreauputicyes, it works now - for some odd reason it refused to work las t time I tried it11:37
Burgundaviavery annoying11:37
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MadpilotBurgundavia: that's one advantage to using Opera for IRC as well as browsing - the restore features cover IRC as well as webpages so if Opera crashes everything comes back automagically...11:39
Burgundaviawell I rejoin all my channels with xchat as well11:40
Burgundaviabut I lose all the scrollback11:40
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Fator_DeeMadpilot: irssi doesn't crash :-p11:41
MadpilotBurgundavia: Ah, same deal w/ Opera. at least we don't have to manually re-connect...11:41
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MadpilotFator_Dee: what, ever? :)11:41
Fator_DeeMadpilot: not to me, no11:41
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thoreauputicMadpilot: irssi is a very mature program ...11:43
thoreauputicMadpilot: it never has temper tantrums *g*11:43
dsdanyone here who can help me with partitioning for ubuntu im having some major problems, and ive been trying to figure it out for about 3-4 hours now any help would be greatly apperciated11:43
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gooHello. How do I get KDE 4 for my Ubuntu Hoary?11:43
bob2goo: #kubuntu11:44
thoreauputicgoo: wait patiently for a release of Ubuntu that includes it ?11:44
bob2also, kde4 doesn't exist11:44
Madpilotthoreauputic: good to hear! Opera rarely has tantrums, it just sometimes eats a piece of HTML that disagrees with it... :p11:45
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bob2dsd: it's way better to just ask your question...11:45
Riddell"Kubuntu releases version with KDE 4 before it even exists"11:45
thoreauputicMadpilot: I used to use Opera a few years ago - nice browser but FF with extensions does evrything I used to use on Opera so ...11:45
goobob2: ok. Thanks - I guess-11:46
bob2goo: what more do you want? kde4 doesn't exist, anywhere.11:46
Riddellgoo: 3.4.1 is coming out later today/tomorrow, see the kde announcement for how to get it (also kubuntu.org/faq.php)11:46
thoreauputicRiddell: well, we expect magic from you guys ;-)11:46
Fator_Deethoreauputic: it's funny that irssi is not at version 1.0 yet :-)11:47
dsdfirst off, partition magic hangs on a black screen while restarting when i try to resize my windows partition. So in order to solve that problem i tried installing boot magic...but i cant unless i have a partition to begin with, anyways it tried using qtparted using system rescue cd based on a linux, when i tried resizing my windows partition there, it gave me an error about cluster or something11:47
MadpilotBurgundavia: having fun filling another 500 bug reports? :p11:47
goobob2: I meant "Latest development release of KDE" - sorry for being unspecific.11:47
BurgundaviaMadpilot, nah, just convincing people on the forums to do my work for me11:47
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dooglusdsd: I recommend a program called "boot-it ng" if you want to resize a windows partition.  worked a treat for me.  it's "shareware" though11:47
thoreauputicFator_Dee: heheh - I love the conservatism: I have a gtk2 version of Sylpheed that has a version number like 0.9.99-99 :)11:48
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Riddellgoo: you have to compile it yourself, I might make SVN packages in future11:48
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Fator_Deethoreauputic: stubborn devs :-)11:48
Fator_Dee"It's not ready yet!"11:48
gooRiddell: ok, thanks. I'll try kdesvn-build, then.11:48
Madpilotthoreauputic: "Just *one* more thing to get right, then we go 1.0... honest!" ;)11:49
thoreauputicheheh11:49
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thoreauputicMadpilot: I have a script for a little timer I wrote with Xdialog - I gave it version 0.0.001 :D11:50
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Fator_Deethoreauputic: is that even alpha release :-)11:50
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dsddooglus, thanks ill try it out and see if it works *Crosses fingers*11:50
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thoreauputicFator_Dee: heh - actually it works quite well - maybe I should revise the version number11:51
Fator_Deethoreauputic: "it works, so it's actually 0.0.002"11:51
thoreauputicFator_Dee: http://users.fishinternet.com.au/~peterg/Timer_Script.html11:51
thoreauputicFator_Dee: right :)11:51
thoreauputicFator_Dee: actually it is now 0.0.1  (wow!)11:52
Madpilotgah... is 0255 here, must get some sleep before work @ 0900. later, all...11:54
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turfhi guys! can any one redirect me to a howto-install flash player in a ppc architecture.12:03
bob2you can't12:03
bob2yay for proprietary formats12:03
Fator_Deeyay12:03
bob2you can use the Free plugin, but it's kinda crap12:03
schasihttps://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats12:03
thoreauputichey the poke worked!12:03
schasiYep its _crap_12:03
turfk,thanks!12:05
Fator_Deewhere does bmp save the playlist?12:05
Fator_DeeI can't see a save playlist option anywhere12:05
bob2~/.bmp/ or something, if it's like xmms12:06
bob2why do people use bmp?12:06
Fator_Deeyep, seems like it12:06
ChoubakaIt's GTK2?12:06
thoreauputicbob2: it looks nicer12:06
ChoubakaIt also doesn't work, but who cares. :D12:06
deFrysklol12:06
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Fator_Deeworks for me :-p12:07
thoreauputicbob2: includes a thumbnail display of skins etc12:07
ChoubakaFor me it always crashes or abruptly stops playing songs12:07
thoreauputicChoubaka: it hates you, I guess12:07
Fator_DeeChoubaka: that happened to me with xmms :-)12:07
thoreauputicChoubaka: works fine for me ;)12:07
ChoubakaMe neither.12:07
ChoubakaLove the headline: "Pointy knives can kill: official"12:08
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dooglusis 'wine' any good yet?  I've tried it a few times and it has never worked particularly well12:08
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thoreauputicChoubaka: "Your freedom to carry arms is respected: your decision not to use them is appreciated "12:09
thoreauputic*g*12:09
dooglusI saw a packet of nuts in the UK with a warning on them saying "warning: may contain nuts or traces of nuts".12:09
Choubaka\o/12:09
Choubaka"May contain traces of nuts" is the #adom motto. :D12:10
Fator_Deedooglus: :-D12:10
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dooglusChoubaka: adom like the nethack-type game?12:10
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ChoubakaYes.12:10
dooglushaven't played that for 10 years I'd guess12:10
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ChoubakaIs ADOM even that old? :|12:10
dooglusmaybe not - I'm not sure.12:11
sbrikciao a tutti12:11
Choubakanethack is I guess.12:11
Choubakasbrik: English.12:11
Fator_Deenethack is old12:11
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dooglusnethack was recently 25, wasn't it?12:11
Fator_Deeadom might be like, 5 or something12:11
Choubakait's older I think12:11
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Fator_Deenot ten years though12:11
ChoubakaADOM also owns nethack. This is my entirely biased opinion12:12
difficultHi, I'm trying to setup ip-up,d scripts however they don't seem to run when my connection starts. if I do pon connection_name then should the script be /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/connection_name with permissions 755 ?12:12
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ChoubakaOh, ADOM was started on 199412:13
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Fator_Deeoh12:14
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KusursuZFree Video --> www.aysu.gen.ms12:15
Fator_Deetime goes fast :-\12:15
ChoubakaFirst public version was 0.7.0 though.12:15
-KusursuZ:#ubuntu- Free Video --> www.aysu.gen.ms12:15
ChoubakaYay, spammers.12:15
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rg58smahi12:15
rg58smasomeone12:15
rg58smaknows12:16
Choubakaspeak longer lines please. .)12:16
schasihow12:16
schasito12:16
schasispeak12:16
schasilonger lines?12:16
Choubaka:P12:16
rg58smahow to install the desktop and the things of art.gnome.org12:16
dooglusI think I played it in 1996.12:16
ChoubakaYou should try it again :P12:16
thoreauputicrg58sma: your enter key is not a substitute for punctuation12:16
Choubaka1.0.0 is the best version IMHO12:16
dooglusI never really got on with it - nethack's my game12:17
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p88hi are there vmware users here?12:17
schasiperhaps12:18
ChoubakaNethack is boring with no wilderness.12:18
pschulz01bochs12:18
Choubaka:D12:18
rg58smaok12:18
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p88I'd like to know whether I can set an option to vmware so that my disks are read only in the sense that everything that is written to the disk during a session is discarded at reboot?12:18
Choubakapschulz01: bochs is really slow.12:18
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pschulz01yeh..12:18
Choubakap88: You should consult vmware documentation :/12:19
pschulz01p88: search for 'cow' (copy on write)12:19
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p88I have been consulting the docs quite a lot12:19
p88qemu does "cow"12:19
david_hey.. how can i mount an NTFS partition on this SATA drive?12:19
thoreauputicpschulz01: ah, in the grand tradition of "cat"12:19
pschulz01p88: so does user-mode-linux12:19
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-KusursuZ:#ubuntu- Free Video --> www.aysu.gen.ms12:20
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Fator_Deedavid_: www.ubuntuguide.org search there for "ntfs"12:20
thoreauputicdavid_: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/foo /mnt/point ?12:20
Fator_Dee:-|12:20
Fator_Deeflood & exit12:20
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p88killall -9 spammers12:20
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thoreauputichmm... doesn't work unfortunately12:20
p88-912:21
p88SIGKILL :D12:21
Fator_Deethoreauputic: you don't got root to irc12:21
p88KILL them all12:21
thoreauputickillall -KILL12:21
thoreauputicFator_Dee: rats :(12:21
p88yes12:21
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nageshI made entry in /etc/fstab to mount  windows drive when linux starts up12:21
IIIEarsIs there a quick fix to restore open apps to the task bar?12:22
david_how can i see the partitions on the disk?12:22
IIIEarsThe open icons for apps are missing.12:22
thoreauputicdavid_: sudo fdisk -l12:22
nageshi am able to see the contents of the windows drive but when I click on it the content disappears12:22
nageshcan any one help me12:22
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david_ahh12:23
david_/dev/sda5            7754       15485    62107258+   b  W95 FAT3212:23
david_thats what i need to mount12:23
david_or auto mount12:23
david_every boot12:23
thoreauputicdavid_: then use -t vfat12:23
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nageshdavid_, Can you help me12:24
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IIIEarsi am curious about auto mounting. if ntfs were mounted writable and the driver wasn't able to write to it.would it disappear when you clicked on content?12:24
nageshIIIEars, yes12:24
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IIIEarsthat was just a question from a newb - never mind12:25
thoreauputicBurgundavia: you have to stop this right -click habit *grin*12:25
david_root@ubuntu:/home/david # sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda5 /mnt/fat12:26
david_mount: mount point /mnt/fat does not exist12:26
thoreauputicdavid_: sudo mkdir /mnt/fat12:26
Fator_Deemmmm. coffeee...12:26
david_right12:26
david_i think its mounted12:26
thoreauputicdavid_: it nedds to *be* there - unless you believe in magic ;-)12:27
thoreauputic*needs12:27
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IIIEars<< Doritos and pepsi fuel for the computer addicted.12:27
david_yup its worked12:27
Fator_DeeIIIEars: heretic :-\12:27
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javinuxSomeone knows how to install kguitar on ubuntu with gnome desktop?12:27
pepsiIIIEars, hi12:28
IIIEarsI dunno cool ranch flavor is pretty good.12:28
IIIEarslol - gotta drink coke. pepsi just teases the poor guy.12:29
nate__n00bs12:29
Burgundaviathoreauputic, it is very bad12:29
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nate__coke is bad12:30
nate__pepsi is good12:30
nate__pepsi > coke12:30
IIIEarspepsi - Will the word "Pepsi" send you a beep also?12:30
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nate__ha12:30
pepsi:(12:30
pepsiyou guys are mean12:30
podgethoreauputic, Does Ubuntu detect a Windows partition during the install and setup your fstab appropriately?12:30
david_hmm i need an MP3 plug in to play MP3?12:30
david_whats it called in Synaptic?12:30
nate__i seriously like pepsi more than coke12:30
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thoreauputicpodge: it didn't for me :(12:31
nate__i'm drinking one right now12:31
podgeI thought you would be drinking V or Red Bull.. or is that only for Web programmers?12:31
IIIEarsokay - I'll be more careful with spelling.12:31
nate__just ran outta a 24-pack12:31
thoreauputicpodge: it detects it and adds it to grub, but not fstab12:31
podgethoreauputic, Would be a handy feature.. Slackware 10.1 did in no problems.. mounted on /windows without me doing anything..12:31
thoreauputicpodge: I agree - don't know why Ubuntu doesn't do it, frankly12:32
podgethoreauputic, yeah I noticed the grub config changes..12:32
nate__its weird, if I run konversation, suddenly in xfce my background dissapears and I can't bring up the right-click start-menu12:32
IIIEarsFaxes nate_ a "flat" Pepsi-12:32
david_whats the MP3 plug in package name?12:32
nate__but if i don't, everything works great12:32
nate__IIIEars, ewww12:32
podgethoreauputic, I guess the installer needs to be changed.. time to get on to the Ubuntu dev lists..12:33
thoreauputicdavid_: for which player?12:33
mz2is breezy worth trying yet?12:33
david_rythmbox12:33
nate__IIIEars, never speak such things in my presence12:33
nate__;P12:33
Fator_Deemz2: not for the faint of heart12:33
thoreauputicmz2: no - see /topic12:33
javinuxSomeone knows how to install kguitar on ubuntu with gnome desktop?12:33
pepsihey hey... shhhhhhhh12:33
mz2thoreauputic, ha, ok12:33
thoreauputicdavid_:  gstreamer0.8-mad12:33
nate__The Italian Job is on tv right now12:33
jacquesmerdewhat package do i have to install to get ogg123, oggdec, etc..?12:33
david_ok thanks12:33
nate__channel 61512:33
nate__you know you're all turnin to it12:34
david_hmm cant see it12:34
david_do i need universe?12:34
pepsiwhats channel 615?12:34
nate__no, just pick up the tv control12:34
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nate__615 = Showtime Extreme12:35
podgejavinux : I am just having a look at what kguitar is..12:35
david_do i need universe for gstreamer08mad?12:36
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Fator_Deedavid_: if it doesn't show up, yes12:36
Fator_Deedavid_: and make sure you search with the proper name12:36
david_how can i add universe?12:36
thoreauputicdavid_: and it's gstreamer0.8-mad ( take care with the - ) :)12:37
Fator_Deedavid_: from the repository dialog in synaptic12:37
NicPhave a look at ubuntuguide12:37
IIIEarssorry nate_ can't working on a high score for "Super Turbo Turkey Puncher 3" got 100k - lol12:37
IIIEarsDoom3 is amazing.12:37
podgejavinux, What did you try so far?12:37
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thoreauputicdavid_: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto12:38
javinuxi tried to install with alien, to get a .deb from the rpm file12:38
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IIIEars<saves link>12:38
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podgejavinux, I really need to load Ubuntu on my laptop.. That way I could try it right now.. :(12:39
mvlinuxhi all12:39
podgejavinux, Did you get error messages?12:39
javinuxI also try to compile kguitar, but I get an error when I try to use "make"12:39
david_ok sweet.. ive got MP312:39
david_one last Q... how can u get Enlightenment 17?12:39
mvlinuxsomen here gived me anice page in ubuntu web site but i lost it any one hav a link ?12:39
holycowlol12:40
javinuxinstallin with the .deb from alien, I get this message: Kguitar Kpart not found. Check your instalation12:40
podgejavinux, You need to have QT and KDE libs installed on your system, at least..12:40
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holycownope12:40
javinuxyes, of course12:40
holycowmvlinux, reading minds is not our strong point12:40
holycow:)12:40
thoreauputicdavid_: you'll have to google that one: it isn't in the repos12:40
podgejavinux, So I can assume you have these loaded? :)12:40
Fator_Deemvlinux: ubuntuguide.org perhaps?12:40
javinuxwhen i try to compile, I don't have any error when I do the configure script12:41
mvlinuxFator_Dee, aha may i will try thes :)12:41
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podgejavinux, What compile errors do you get?12:42
mvlinuxFator_Dee, yes thes is the page i'm looking for thanx a loot :)12:42
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javinuxI says me that there was a problem with the make file, because some variable or something like that12:43
podgejavinux, I will boot up my desktop computer and give it a look..12:44
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javinuxok thanks12:44
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podgethoreauputic, So when do you sleep? :)12:45
thoreauputicpodge: sleep is overrated ;)12:45
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Shuflahello12:46
IIIEarsCan anyone recommend an inexpensive wireless laptop? good site for them? (linux of course)12:46
thoreauputicpodge: actually I'm a bot12:46
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IIIEarsGuru bot 2.012:47
javinuxIIIEars, I have a Toshiba satellite A50 laptop, fully compatible with linux12:47
IIIEarsGood start Thank You. :)12:47
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podgethoreauputic, best Eliza program I've ever seen!12:47
thoreauputicpodge: hahah12:48
IIIEarslol12:48
mofIIIEars: TARGA12:48
thoreauputicpodge: Is it because of your life that you say " So when do you sleep? :) "  ?12:48
nageshhow can I view windows partitions in linux12:48
nageshcan anyone help me12:48
GNAMwith a program that I don't remember12:48
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raghunagesh: beside you there is one windows machine switch on...hahah12:49
GNAMah n12:49
GNAMauudaausuas12:49
GNAMi've undestand inverse12:49
GNAMwindows partition in linux?12:49
nate__i wish there was an easier way to get the path of a file in rox12:49
GNAMedit fstab12:49
nate__so annoying12:49
GNAMlook at ubuntuguide.org12:49
mofnagesh: mount them12:49
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rg58smahi someone knows Ip program to networks??12:50
rg58smamy english sucks12:50
nate__i see12:50
rg58smabut is mine12:50
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NicPip program to networks makes no sense12:50
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NicPplease rephrase the question12:51
Pop_pa_FrEaKhmmm konqueror keeps crashing for some reason12:51
rg58smaprogram to get ip from networks12:51
nageshraghu, Thank u12:51
thoreauputicrg58sma: ifconfig perhaps?12:52
nageshmof, I did entry in /etc/fstab12:52
mofthoreauputic: he means from other machines maybe12:52
rg58smafor all ip of the nets12:52
thoreauputicmof: hard to tell...12:52
dooglushow easy is it to change ubuntu so that runlevel 2 doesn't run gdm, but runlevel 3 does?12:52
nate__rg58sma, sudo ifconfig12:52
NicPethereal maybe?12:52
mofnagesh: did you create a mountpoint for it12:53
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nageshmof, I am able to see the content of a windows drive but when I click on it it disappears12:53
NicPi dont really understand which ip you want12:53
mofeg /mnt/windows12:53
nageshyes12:53
nageshmof, yes12:53
rg58smano12:53
rg58smano my ip12:53
mofand you mount it to this12:53
rg58smathe all ip of the nets12:53
rg58smanet12:53
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nate__rg58sma, sudo ifconfig12:53
rg58smajajjaaa12:54
rg58smaare you crazy or madness12:54
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nate__lol!12:54
nageshmof, the content of the window partition appears like a file12:54
ford41CTI shrank my panel, and i don't know how to get it back to its previous state where it spanned the left side to the right. There's nowhere to click in the panel with which i can go to "properties". help12:54
NicPi dont understand what you mean by "the net"12:54
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thoreauputicrg58sma: we are trying to understand your fractured english, sorry12:54
rg58smamy networks12:54
mofnagesh: show the fstab line12:54
rg58smajajaja12:54
rg58smaok12:54
nate__rg58sma, sudo nslookup <domain-name>12:54
IIIEarsUgh - "Windows Tax" - :/12:55
podgejavinux, So give me a quick hint.. What are the apt-get lines for QT and KDE libs?12:55
rg58smaa program to search all ip12:55
nate__rg58sma, nessus12:55
rg58smaof my networks12:55
nageshmof, /dev/hda5       /mnt/windows          vfat    auto        0       012:55
thoreauputicrg58sma: host, nslookup, dig12:55
aburletwhy setting my timezone to GMT+2 SUBSTRACTS 2 hours from UTC ???12:55
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yahalomhow do i remove entries from my gnome menu?12:55
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mofnagesh: append after auto 'defaults'12:55
javinuxpodge, wait a minute please12:56
mofsepareted by komma12:56
nate__rg58sma, nessus is a wicked program though man, not sure if its technically legal to use outside of a lab environment12:56
thoreauputicnagesh: try putting " auto, umask=0000 "12:56
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MusagetesHas anyone experienced ubuntu not wanting to mount USB devices automatically? I've tried plugging my mp3 player in, and it shows with 'usbview', but the drive doesn't appear anywhere.12:56
nageshmof, ok i will try12:56
jacquesmerdeggrrrrrrr...all the panel apps that dont seem to play well with panel transparency are copyright by redhat.....grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!12:57
mofdefault or like thoreauputic umask=000012:57
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Fator_Deenate__: you could use it to examine your own servers12:57
nate__Musagetes, did your mp3 player require special software to access it under windows?12:57
nate__Fator_Dee, yeah, true :)12:57
nate__Fator_Dee, but there are legal issues surrounding security programs like nessus, i just wanted to make him aware of it12:58
Musagetesnate__: It required a driver in Windows, but I had the impression that wasn't necessary in linux. :(12:58
thoreauputicnagesh: make sure there are no spaces, just commas12:58
Pop_pa_FrEaKhey Fator_Dee12:58
nate__Musagetes, Could you access it like it was a hard drive in windows?12:58
MusagetesYes12:58
rg58smano12:58
Fator_Deehey Pop_pa_FrEaK12:58
javinuxpodge, libqt3-mt-dev, libqt3-headers, kdebase, I think that's all12:59
nate__Musagetes, hmm, interesting, i have no idea then, sorry12:59
joh_Why isnt there a desktop-calendar for May?12:59
nageshthoreauputic, ok12:59
Pop_pa_FrEaKtrying to figure out why konqueror keeps crashing when ever I try to delete something12:59
rg58smai need other12:59
thoreauputicjoh_: good question :)12:59
nate__Musagetes, are other usb devices recognized?  Can you try a thumb drive or something?12:59
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mofMusagetes: edit the fstab like /dev/hde1 /mnt/stick vfat defaults12:59
MusagetesI got an old digital cam I can try plugging in. :)01:00
Fator_DeePop_pa_FrEaK: you could try to start konqueror from a terminal and look at what the output says when it crashes01:00
joh_thoreauputic: I really love the april one, but my desktop could need some change :)01:00
nate__rg58sma, nmap01:00
Fator_DeePop_pa_FrEaK: or there could be something in ~/.xsession-errors01:01
joh_is it rude to fill in a bug report for missing May calendar?01:01
nate__I need to call my lawyer to find out more about legal issues and security programs01:01
Fator_DeePop_pa_FrEaK: or other logs, /var/log/01:01
podgejavinux, Thanks!01:01
Musagetesmof: So I just copy what you wrote and paste it into my fstab?01:01
Pop_pa_FrEaKyea I get a bunch of errors01:01
Pop_pa_FrEaKbrb01:01
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sam_hi01:02
thoreauputicjoh_: heh - do it anyway ;)01:02
sam_hi01:02
Fator_Deeit's still May though01:02
Fator_Deeit might come in time01:02
sam_my first time here01:02
podgejavinux, 35 meg.. ouch!!01:02
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rg58smahere i found you01:02
nageshthoreauputic, the type vfat is correct01:02
Pop_pa_FrEaKFator_Dee, want me to paste in #flood01:02
Pop_pa_FrEaK?01:02
thoreauputicsam_: welcome to our world ;)01:02
Fator_DeePop_pa_FrEaK: I prefer pastebin01:02
nageshthoreauputic, the type vfat is correct01:02
sam_thanks01:02
javinuxpodge, yes, it's hard xD01:03
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Pop_pa_FrEaKwww.pastebin.org ?01:03
Fator_DeePop_pa_FrEaK: eee.pastebin.com01:03
thoreauputicnagesh: yes, if your win partition uses fat3201:03
Fator_DeePop_pa_FrEaK: *www01:03
Pop_pa_FrEaKahh01:03
nageshthoreauputic, yes it is a fat3201:03
sam_ne1 from the uk?01:03
rg58smano ports, only IP01:03
rg58smaof01:03
rg58smaok01:03
rg58smafucks01:03
nageshthoreauputic, I want to make a user as a admin01:03
nageshthoreauputic, how can I01:04
thoreauputicnagesh: you mean you want a user to have sudo powers?01:04
mofMusagetes: watch sudo /tail -f /var/log/messages if you connect your player und look up for devices like hde or sda01:04
podgejavinux, Almost there.. the install CD is coming in handy!01:04
nageshthoreauputic, yes01:04
Pop_pa_FrEaKhttp://pastebin.com/292096  here ya go Fator_Dee01:05
thoreauputicnagesh: man sudo, and use visudo to edit /etc/sudoers - or when you make the new user add him/her to the adm group01:05
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rg58smafucks01:05
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thoreauputicrg58sma: umm... language please01:06
Fator_DeePop_pa_FrEaK: ahhummm...01:06
Pop_pa_FrEaKbbiab give me 10 minutes01:06
mofMusagetes: fstabline : first create a mountpoint eg /mnt/player then /dev/hde1 or sda1 /mnt/player vfat auto,defaults 0 001:06
rg58smaok01:06
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rg58smai sorry01:06
nageshthoreauputic, add users and groups01:06
Musagetesmof: There's one here: "May 30 13:04:16 localhost kernel: SCSI device sda: 499712 512-byte hdwr sectors (256 MB)"01:06
Pop_pa_FrEaKwhat Fator_Dee ?01:06
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nageshthoreauputic, /dev/hda5       /mnt/windows          vfat    auto,umask=0000        0       001:06
mofMusagetes: then sda or sda1 , try wich01:07
nageshthoreauputic, is this is o01:07
nageshthoreauputic, ok01:07
thoreauputicnagesh: looks OK - does it work?01:07
mofnagesh: ok01:07
javinuxpodge, the install cd?01:07
Fator_DeePop_pa_FrEaK: well, it seems that everything is not ok, might be better to ask in #kubuntu01:07
mofbbl - installing ubuntu6401:08
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Fator_DeePop_pa_FrEaK: this goes over my skills :-\01:08
thropehi - i just installed but there is a problem with X - the picture is very grainy, all sort of hatched... as if its the wrong resolution or somethin (but it isnt)01:08
nageshthoreauputic, i didnt tested yet01:08
thropethis is on a toshiba laptop with nvidia01:08
thropeany ideaas?01:08
thropei tried the binary nvidia driver but that doesnt work at al01:08
thrope(X never comes back)01:09
podgejavinux, Yeah the Ubuntu 5.04 install CD..01:09
thoreauputicford41CT: why are you ctcp ing me?01:09
ford41CTthoreauputic, oops, just playing around with xchat.01:09
thoreauputicford41CT: OK01:09
ford41CTi don't even know what ctcp is.01:09
NicPlol01:09
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rg58smahi a program to download hotmail mails?01:09
rg58smaplease01:09
rg58smaquickly01:10
thoreauputicford41CT: client to client protocol01:10
podgejavinux, Okay.. I have all that stuff installed.. Now I will try kguitar..01:10
NicPwww.mozilla.com01:10
NicP;)01:10
javinuxpodge, do you say kguitar will go in the ubuntu hoary proximately?01:10
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ford41CTthoreauputic, how come nothing happened with that last ctcp command?01:10
podgejavinux, I don't understand..01:10
throperg58sma: you can't as far as i know... microsoft stopped external collection01:10
thoreauputicford41CT: because I have no user info?01:10
rg58smawhat01:10
podgejavinux, I also need a compiler.. :)01:11
thropenvidianvidia01:11
thropeapologies - wrong keyboard01:11
javinuxpodge, it's true, you can install build-essential, tools for compiling programns01:12
thoreauputicford41CT: stop it please - experiment on your own nick if you must01:12
rg58smawhat????01:13
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rg58smahi a program to download hotmail mails?01:13
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Fator_Deerg58sma: it might *not* be possible because of microsofts policy01:14
throperg58sma: as far as i know its not possible - i used to collect them with pop3 but microsoft stopped all external collection on free accounts01:14
podgejavinux, Have you been able to compile anything on your machine?01:14
throperg58sma: you might find a script somewhere to do it01:14
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IIIEarsWill lspci -vvv give me info on any installed wireless card?01:14
rg58smaok thanks01:15
rg58smabut you can download the mails???01:15
thoreauputicpodge: sudo apt-get install build-essential01:15
podgethoreauputic, Yeah.. I got those but I am getting a stupid error from GCC even when I try to compile hello world..01:16
throperg58sma: you can downlaod them from the web01:16
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throperg58sma: but not from a sepearte program, as far as i know01:16
javinuxpodge, Truly I only have tried to compile kguitar01:16
podgethoreauputic, Working on it.. I don't think I have the latest binutils..01:16
thoreauputicpodge: how long since your last apt-get dist-upgrade ?01:16
IIIEarsthoreauputic - Sorry i ask so many questions and have so few answers. (5th week with linux)01:16
javinuxpodge, but the configure script doesn't get me any error01:17
thoreauputicpodge: there was a binutils issue a few days ago01:17
podgethoreauputic, Running it as we speak.. :)01:17
podgejavinux, Still working on kguitar..01:17
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thoreauputicIIIEars: why are you apologising? You have more clues than most beginners01:17
rg58smahowto run grub-images01:18
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bigfootaction help01:18
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rg58smaor search01:18
IIIEarsThanks. :) - It'll get better i promise.01:18
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podgethoreauputic, Are you saying I shouldn't get the latest? Or that I should?01:18
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thoreauputicIIIEars: lspci -vvv | less migh tbe easier to read01:18
thoreauputicpodge: you should01:19
IIIEarsAh - Okay. Thank You.01:19
thoreauputicpodge: I believe it was fixed01:19
bigfootdoes anyone have experience working with Pan newsreader... getting binaries that span more than one message?01:19
bob2er, binutils in hoary isn't broken01:19
podgethoreauputic, Cool.. pumping the 1.5 adsl..01:19
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thoreauputicbob2: not now - it was a few days ago01:19
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bigfootanybody here uses usenet/newsgroups?01:22
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podgethoreauputic, Working now.. thanks!!01:23
rg58smahowto run grub-images01:23
rg58smaor search01:23
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thoreauputicpodge: you're welcome :)01:23
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rg58smai installed a grub-spashimages01:23
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rg58smawhere i foun??01:24
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thoreauputicrg58sma: what is your native language? And why are you running as root?01:25
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podgejavinux, kde headers?01:26
thoreauputicrg58sma: I suggest you *NOT* use IRC as root01:26
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spanglesontoasthow come I cannot do sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/legacy_va_layout01:26
spanglesontoast?01:26
hideseeki did a "/gui hide" and i don't know where my xchat window went or how to make it reappear.01:27
rg58smahow yoy know what ima root??01:27
Fator_Deerg58sma: /wii rg58sma01:27
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thoreauputicrg58sma: jst fix it: log in as a user, please01:27
thoreauputic*just01:27
[Spooky] God morning all :)01:28
pepsiahhhh!01:28
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pepsiscary01:28
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[Spooky] pepsi: /gui unhide ?01:28
maxyvitsHi Guys!01:28
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pepsino, [Spooky] 01:28
[Spooky] pepsi: /gui show ?01:29
maxyvitsWhen I save stuff to my desktop I can no longer see it (on my desktop)01:29
maxyvitsI have to open the folder.01:29
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spanglesontoastcan anyone help me with installing counter strike source on Ubuntu01:29
hideseek[Spooky] , nope,  "unhide" does't work.01:29
Fator_Deehideseek: /gui show01:29
Fator_Deehideseek: /help "command" is your friend01:29
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Fator_Deehideseek: eg, /help gui01:30
mezI know this aint the kubuntu chan01:30
snowsealhow can i disable the bios check at startup? it takes too long, and is unneeded01:30
fabsguys, why my Flash plug-in si not working anymore!! I open FireFox and on a webpage with flash on it, it just says, plugin failed to initialize...01:30
mezbut anyone got any experience with arstdsp[01:30
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podgejavinux, I need to install the KDE devel libs/headers..01:30
mezIt's segfaulting01:30
mezmez@apathy:~$ artsdsp audacity01:30
mezSegmentation fault01:30
podgejavinux, Which I am doing at the moment..01:30
hideseekFator_Dee, "/gui show", though a command,  doesn't do anything  either. I opened up another xchat window to communicate here, but can't get back the original xchat window.01:30
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maxyvitsIs there a way I can enable ubuntu to show files on the desktop?01:31
hideseekFator_Dee, help of gui is "GUI [SHOW|HIDE|FOCUS|FLASH|ICONIFY|COLOR <n>] "01:31
Fator_Deehideseek: hmmm, I'm trying to solve it01:31
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medkithi all01:31
Fator_Deehideseek: but I don't know what the xchat devs were thinking when they made this command01:32
thoreauputicrg58sma: stop it please01:32
hideseekFator_Dee, same here. 8-)01:32
javinuxpodge, ok, it's true, I forget tell you that01:32
rg58smawhat are they do01:32
fabsproblem with flash pug-in here01:32
mezfabs01:33
mezwhat problems?01:33
hideseekhelp01:33
maxyvitsNo help for desktop? :(01:33
hideseekmaxyvits, just put your stuff onto your desktop.01:33
snowsealhow can i disable the bios integrity check at startup? it takes too long, and is unneeded01:33
bob2ram check?01:33
maxyvitshideseek, when I do it doesn't show01:33
bob2configure your bios not to do it01:33
podgejavinux, Do you get QVector errors?01:34
fabsmez,  I open FireFox and on a webpage with flash on it, it just says, plugin failed to initialize... and it just shows a grey bit01:34
snowsealits not bios, its part of ubuntu01:34
bob2er01:34
mezwhat did you try and install01:34
bob2when does ubuntu run a "bios integrity check"?01:34
javinuxpodge, no, i dont01:34
snowsealwhen i choose to boot ubuntu in the lilo bootloader01:35
mezfabs, what did you ty and install01:35
javinuxpodge, are you trying to configure kguitar?01:35
bob2snowseal: why are you using lilo at all?01:35
snowsealit says starting linux.............01:35
snowsealthen 50 dots01:35
podgejavinux, It configured.. now I am trying to compile..01:35
maxyvitsI guess I'll try to figure that one out on my own.01:35
fabsmez, well the last thing I installed was vb6 on CrossOver01:35
snowsealbob2,  i didnt have the choise01:35
bob2snowseal: yes, it's loading the initrd01:35
bob2snowseal: no, by default it uses grub01:36
javinuxpodge, you get qtvector errors when make?01:36
fabsmez, it done something about Java I think but not Flash...01:36
maxyvitsOk then, how can I get quicktime working. I installed it through synaptic but it doesn't play quicktime files.01:36
mezfabs, no i mean what flash package did you isntall01:36
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fabsmez, oh the one found on synaptic, but till now it was working great01:36
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snowsealbob i installed linux on bad partition. removed the partition and reinstalled it. second time ubuntu chose to use lilo01:36
bob2I don't know how that could possibly happen01:37
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fabsmez, flashplayermozilla 7.0.25.0.001:37
bob2and it's not doing a "bios integrity check" when it's printing dots01:37
bob2that's loading the kernel or initrd from the disk01:37
mezfabs, dont use that01:37
dooglusrg58sma: I just noticed that every time I boot, it tells me "IRQ 6 doesn't match PIRQ mask - try pci=usepircmask"01:37
dooglusany idea where I should "try" that?01:37
mezfabs, uninstall that adn use flashplugin-nonfree01:38
mezit works perfectly01:38
snowsealok, the bios thing is just hte first thing it does after the kernel loads.01:38
fabsmez, :) oh cool, does it install automatically?01:38
snowsealman it loads really slow. :( have to live with it.01:38
dooglusthe code is in /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/pci/irq.c01:38
bob2snowseal: what does it say when doing this?01:38
[Spooky] hm i realy have big problems with my Phyton-glade2 :/ i cant install it and when un-installing it so do other prorams to...01:38
javinuxpodge, you can install this .deb made with alien, if you want to see if you get an error01:38
[Spooky] *programs01:39
maxyvitsCan someone help me to get quicktime working?01:39
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bob2maxyvits: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats01:39
Echelon-Hgood afternoon :D01:39
bob2maxyvits: install w32codecs01:39
bigfootdo we have any PAN users here?01:39
mezfabs, I tried everything... but if you do a sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree then it works properly (need to add multiverse though)01:39
maxyvitsbob2, via synaptic?01:39
nayifi like to read every day news about ubuntu ,is there a place like that like "gnome footnotes" for ubuntu "i knew about planet"?01:39
bob2bigfoot: if you want to dowonload warez from usenet, pan is not the tool to be using01:39
bob2nayif: not yet, hopefully soon01:40
thoreauputicmaxy_noob: read the URL he gave you01:40
fabsmez, oh that's great, hmmm where do I get the full multiverse string01:40
thoreauputicoops01:40
thoreauputicmaxyvits: read the URL he gave you01:40
bigfooti don't want to download warez, bob2.01:40
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maxyvitsok01:40
fabsmez, because the nonfree one is also on my Synaptic01:40
nayifbob2, thanks and am glad to see that soon :)01:40
bigfooti'd like to know how to get a cut-up binary, bob201:40
fabsmez, oh it seems to be installing via synaptic01:41
mezif it's inm your synapic, then thats cool01:41
bigfootbob2, who needs warez anyway. everything in linux is free, isn't it?01:41
fabsmez, but it told me it needs libruby, so its downloading it too :)01:41
mezmake sure you uninstall the others (and libflash0 if you have it)01:41
fabsmez, sure done it, oh I hope it works!01:42
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fabsmez, right, installed, now I am gonna try it01:42
[Spooky] bigfoot: not everything01:42
dooglusanyone?  where should I "try pci=usepircmask"?01:42
mezfabs, make sure you exit all vesiond of firefox first01:42
bigfootbob2, but if warez and binary mean the same thing for our purpose (i.e. pan isn't good for binaries), what do you recommend01:42
bigfoot?01:43
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bigfoot[Spooky] , what's not included?01:43
fabsmez, uhhmm :\ same, the plugin initialization failed, Reload the page and try again01:44
mezweird01:44
Jack_BristowDoes the latest Ubuntu linux support ich6 sound?01:44
mezdid you try a manual install01:44
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[Spooky] bigfoot: no pm please...01:45
fabsmez, dunno how to do it, I am quite new on here01:45
mez*shrugs* I dont know then01:45
mezpoest on the forums01:45
mezhttp://www.ubuntuforums.or01:45
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mezhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org01:45
fabsmez, but I think was the stupid vb6 I installed yesterday01:45
bigfoot[Spooky] , ok. how did you make it 'internic"?01:45
mezlol ... possibly ;)01:46
[Spooky] bigfoot: i dunno01:46
fabsmez, thanks a lot but when I finish working with it I will unistall VB601:46
fabsmez, really thank you :)01:46
bigfoot[Spooky] , really?01:46
podgejavinux, Also needed the qt compat headers..01:47
[Spooky] bigfoot: what are you talking about btw ?01:47
bigfoot[Spooky] , i'm talking about your country information.01:47
javinuxpodge, mmm it's cool, I didn't have it installed, thanks01:48
Jack_BristowI have an Asus 915P and everything except sound works!.  Has anyone had any success with this motherboard chipset?01:48
javinuxpodge, could you now compile it?01:48
podgejavinux, libqt3-compat-headers01:49
podgejavinux, Compile is working so far..01:49
[Spooky] bigfoot: what contry info ?01:50
javinuxpodge, ok, tell me if you get a succesfull compilation01:50
[Spooky] *country01:50
bigfoot[Spooky] , click on your name with your 2ndary mouse button.01:50
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bigfoothi thoreauputic .01:51
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bigfootbye thoreauputic_01:51
podgejavinux, Compile worked..01:52
mezlo thoreauputic01:53
thoreauputic:)01:53
bigfootdo some themes make the computer run faster than others?01:53
podgejavinux, Maybe it's the compat libraries?01:53
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thoreauputicbigfoot: yes, slightly01:53
bigfootFor example is "Simple" really "high performance" as the details says?01:54
mezbigfoot - I'd assume lightweight themse (less graphics) would run faster.01:54
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mindspinbigfoot  "the smaller the better ?"01:54
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bigfootmindspin, i've just switched to simple from ubuntu theme. i think i can notice a difference.01:54
pepsiless patterns and more solid colors i think would be best01:54
javinuxpodge, so could you do make install without problems?01:54
bigfootif i had less stuff on my panel, will my comp run faster?01:54
podgejavinux, make install is also working..01:54
bigfootless applets...01:54
thoreauputicbigfoot: if you want more speed, install icewm or one of the *boxes01:54
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podgejavinux, Give me a second.. I will go and run it on my machine upstairs..01:55
bigfootwhat's a *box, thoreauputic ?01:55
thoreauputic... or buy a stick of RAM01:55
javinuxpodge, ok, thanks01:55
bigfootis icewm a theme, thoreauputic ?01:55
podgejavinux, So do you have the compat stuff installed?01:55
thoreauputicbigfoot: fluxbox, blackbox, openbox01:55
thoreauputicbigfoot: no, a window manager01:55
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bigfootwhat's the default window manager called? metacity?01:56
thoreauputicbigfoot:  xhttp://xwinman.org01:56
thoreauputicgah01:56
bob2bigfoot: yes01:56
KarlosIIwhat the01:56
mezxhttp ?01:56
thoreauputichttp://xwinman.org01:56
bigfootthoreauputic, "gah"?01:56
javinuxpodge, no, I haven't01:56
thoreauputicbigfoot: I made a typo01:56
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bigfootyou're a fast typist, aren't you, thoreauputic ?01:57
thoreauputicbigfoot: no, I'm slow as hell01:57
bigfootbob2, we were talking about pan and stuff... please continue.01:57
thoreauputicbigfoot: I can't touch type at all01:57
bob2bigfoot: I wasn't talking about pan, you were01:57
podgejavinux, The program starts up correctly on gnome..01:58
bob2bigfoot: if you want binaries off usenet, use a tool designed for that01:58
podgethoreauputic, she sells sea shells by the sea shore..01:58
bigfootbob2, i went to pan's homepage and it said it can do binaries, no?01:58
bob2bigfoot: I have no idea01:58
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podgethoreauputic, I'm not a pheasant plucker but a pheasant pluckers son..01:58
bigfootpodge, how much wood does a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?01:58
thoreauputicthe sea shells that she sells are sea shells I'm sure01:58
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javinuxpodge, ok, it seems I had to install compat packages....01:58
bigfootbob2, what do you recommend?01:59
podgejavinux, Give it a try and let me know how you go..01:59
bigfootpodge, why the tongue twisters? aren't we supposed to give thoreauputic  some finger-twisters rather?01:59
bigfoot8-)01:59
bigfootlike... a quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog.02:00
javinuxpodge, ok, thanks a lot, I'll try to do the same you did02:00
bigfoot8-)02:00
podgebigfoot, good point.. Got any handy?02:00
mezsomething witht eh word sad in02:00
bigfootsee the above.02:00
thoreauputicghlghg aks ;j;lk af; j; ;j ;fj j jksj02:00
mezabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz maybe02:00
bigfoot8-)02:00
bigfootthoreauputic,  ha ha ha!02:00
meztry typing THAT fast02:00
bigfootthoreauputic, what were you _really_ wanting to type!02:00
bigfoot?02:00
javinuxpodge, I'll tell you how it go in some hours02:00
mezwith your eyes shut02:00
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thoreauputicbigfoot: if you didn't understand that, RTFM ;)02:01
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podgemez : I'll cut and paste thanks.. :)02:01
bigfootpodge, are you quicker with the mouse?02:01
mez<bigfoot> podge, are you quicker with the mouse? <-- why did i think that was a perverted joke o_O02:02
podgebigfoot : I've got a big onscreen keyboard.. ;)02:02
mezand that02:02
bigfootpodge, oh you're accessibilty-zed!02:02
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bigfootspeaking about text input... any good speech recognition software available?02:03
podgeAnyone been watching "The Apprentice"?02:03
mindspinpodge what experiences do you have with sites using cmses?02:03
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bigfootanybody knows/uses any good programs for binaries at usenet?02:04
podgebigfoot : Good luck with it recognising Ubuntu.. haha..02:04
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Fator_Deebigfoot: try searching in synaptic, you should find a few02:04
bigfootpodge, what do you mean? don't we just have to find a linux program?02:04
podgemindspin : CMSes as in Content Management Systems?02:04
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mindspinyep02:04
bigfootFator_Dee,  do you use any?02:04
thoreauputicwell, Bach as well...02:04
Fator_Deebigfoot: nope02:04
podgethoreauputic, More like starts with Mozart and ends with Metallica!02:05
=== bigfoot agrees with thoreauputic about classical music.
Fator_DeeMetallica is overrated :-\02:05
thoreauputicpodge: :)02:05
mezthoreauputic, I thought music began an ended with m and c02:05
mindspinmozart, the ancient paul mccartney....02:05
thoreauputicmez: very droll ;)02:05
mez;)02:05
thoreauputicmindspin: ack02:05
podgemindspin, Not much, usually the web guys do that kind of work? How about you?02:05
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bigfootmez, that's quite a name change.02:06
mindspinIm running WEbGUI-cms and try to get it accessible for mostly everybody, so I#m interested in your experiences02:06
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Mezbigfoot, I know - I just like a capital M02:06
podgebigfoot, does listening to classical make for a big brain?02:06
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Fator_Deepodge: they say so02:07
podgemindspin, My experiences would be of little value to you..02:07
Fator_Deepodge: "they"02:07
mindspinwhy?02:07
thoreauputicpodge: only listening to Mozart ;-)02:07
thropehi - new to ubuntu package management - how do i install mplayer? ive added repositories but it give a dependency conflict (available versions of libfontconfig and libvorbis not recent enough02:07
podgeFator_Dee, People who listen to classical music say it gives you a big brain? Okay then.. hahah..02:07
javinuxpodge, how do you resolve the qtvector problems?02:07
medkitMan, Mplayer crashs playing xvid , Totem not able to play either but VLC did it.02:08
Fator_Deepodge: something like that :-p02:08
thropeanyway i can just carry on anyway since fonts/ogg arent deal breaking features for me02:08
thoreauputicpodge: or a swelled head maybe *g*02:08
podgejavinux, Loaded the compat headers..02:08
bigfootpodge, i don't remember clearly, i went to a music school once, to inquire about music lessons. there were newspaper and magazine clippings framed and posted on the walls about research done that shows playing an instrument is good for the brain. i think merely listening has good effects, too.02:09
javinuxpodge, ok, thanks02:09
thropemplayer02:09
podgeAnyone here had any experience with CMS? Mindspin wants some info...02:09
thropemplayer02:09
KarlosIImplayer is crashing02:09
thropesorry : wrong keyboard02:09
KarlosIIactually with recent updates totem and mplayer and xine are broken02:10
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thropeanyone? how to install mplayer (resolve dependencies)?02:10
podgebigfoot, Maybe, I play guitar.. but I can't brag about my brain size..02:10
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podgejavinux, Hope I helped!02:11
bigfootthoreauputic, those window managers you recommended: are they less pleasing to the eye as the default window manager? What is ubuntu's default windows manager, anyway?02:11
ChoubakaMetacity.02:11
thoreauputicbigfoot: matter of taste i guess02:11
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thoreauputicmetacity is the default gnome window manager02:11
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javinuxpodge, to install kde libs/headers, which package did you get?02:12
ChoubakaAnd thus the ubuntu default :)02:12
fuckohey.  what's a good text-based irc client?02:12
thoreauputicirssi02:12
Mezanytone here got any experience with xchat plugins02:12
bob2fucko: irssi-text.02:12
bigfootpodge, you won't be able to discern growth in brain size, since the addition of synaptic connections are invisible to the unaided eye.02:12
Mezlovely name fucko02:12
bigfootfucko, when people write your name, do you feel that they're cussing at you?02:13
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bigfootimagine having a person really named something as bad.02:13
fuckohm.  you people do cuss an awful lot.02:13
fuckoso, yeah.02:13
bigfootonly when i talk to you. 8-)02:13
medkitthrope, http://ubuntuguide.org/#mplayer02:14
fuckoit's not a hardened net-identity of mine or anything.  I'm just on here for a sec to find a better client and perhaps come right back02:15
podgejavinux, kde-devel02:15
podgejavinux, kde-libs02:15
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podgejavinux, Both of those..02:15
_mindspinanyone here who can kick mindspin?02:16
thropemedkit: thanks - i already found that though and it doesnt work02:16
thropemedkit: the mplayer package it says to install dails with some unresolved dependenceis (i mentioned above)02:16
podgebigfoot, Sounds a big too classically intellectual.. :)02:16
javinuxpodge, ok thanks, actually downloading...02:17
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_mindspinseems not to work ;-)02:17
medkitthrope, i used VLC in the end, i did not get it to work.02:17
_mindspinhe#s still here02:17
thropemedkit: libvorbis and libfontconfig, needs newer than available02:17
thropemedkit: ok thanks - guess i will try compiling from the source release02:18
medkitthrope, sudo apt-get install gnome-vlc libdvdcss2, this will work02:18
podgejavinux, I also did a dist-upgrade as well.. to fix the bin-utils problem..02:18
bigfoothow can we reserve/register a nickname? tried /msg nickserv register, but it says that the nickname is already registered. what does that mean? does it mean that the nickname is registered only in this chatroom, or in freenode.net, or in the entire chatroom world?02:18
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thoreauputicbigfoot: on freenode02:19
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bigfootwhat if i forgot the password?02:19
thoreauputicbigfoot: although of course the CIA have it on their records too...02:19
_mindspinget a new nick ,_)02:19
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bigfootthough it's no big deal. could always get a new nick, as mindspin says, or could stay unregistered.02:20
thropemedkit: does vlc play everything that mplayer does (avi etc), also do you know if it has a caching option (usually playing over choppy wireless)02:20
_mindspinthe only stupidity is, that if your connection is cut off you must take your alternative nick02:20
javinuxpodge, ok, it's good know it02:20
thoreauputic_mindspin: /msg nickserv ghost <password for nick>02:21
_mindspinnever set a psswort for my nick02:21
thoreauputic_mindspin: then take your nick back02:21
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_mindspinNickname already in use, try a different one02:22
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_mindspinI#m not a proffessional irc user02:22
Mez_mindspin,  /msg nickserv ghost nick password02:22
thoreauputic_mindspin: heh02:22
Mez_mindspin,  /msg nickserv releasepassword02:22
_mindspinhanx02:22
Mez_mindspin,  /msg nickserv release nick password02:22
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bigfootbut mindspin _never_ set a password, so how will he able to input the commands you're advising him/her?02:23
_mindspinyeah, you got it :-)02:23
Mezw00t02:23
MezI'm finally going to be able to reigster my nickname102:23
_mindspinnickserv release mindspin02:23
Mezyou need to set a password when you register02:24
_mindspinno matter then I'm doubled02:24
_mindspinnope02:24
Mezlol02:24
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Mezjust wait untilt eh other mindspin pings out02:24
_mindspinI closed the client02:24
Mezyeah, then wit till it pings out02:25
Mezand it it doesnt02:25
Mezreboot!02:25
Mezor at least bring eth0 down02:25
medkitthrope, for me it plays pretty much everything i need. Go read http://videolan.org/ and see yourself if it fits your needs.02:25
uggwari am trying to override a package with a selfmade one, but the version of the package is 1:4.0s1 and mine is 5.0b7. i have no clue where the 1: comes from. can someone explain me this, please?02:26
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mindspinhehe02:27
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Meznow register your nick02:27
mindspinok02:27
Fator_Deebut is there any way to regain a forgotten password?02:27
thropemedkit: cant get it to open a file off a network share02:27
thropevlc02:28
MezFator_Dee, for what02:28
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Fator_DeeMez: for a nick on here, freenode02:28
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bob2uggwar: it's called an epoch02:29
bob2uggwar: any version beginning with 1: is greater than any without one.  e.g. 1:0 > 99999.02:30
_mezyou should be able to request it02:30
mrkrtlWhy am I getting a "403 Forbidden" when I do an "apt-get update" ?02:30
mindspinhttp://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup02:30
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[Spooky] i guess i have to do a os reinstall sone then ;/02:31
mindspinmrktrtl:forgot sudo?02:31
bob2mrkrtl: from what source?02:31
linuksohello! Is inotify included in the ubuntu stock kernel02:31
medkitthrope, that seems to be not a prob of vlc but with the share. Probably permissions?02:31
Fator_DeeMez: in where? from whom?02:31
mrkrtlmindspin: I was logged in as root02:32
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Mezfrom opers02:32
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uggwarbob2: thanks!02:32
pregoHi!. How can I authentificate ubuntu-backports packages?02:32
Mezif you match access list or something02:32
herpeslinukso, yes02:33
bob2uggwar: and anything beginning with 2: is greater than anything with 1: or nothing, etc...02:33
herpesbut not the very latest02:33
aburlethello, please tell me why setting the timezone to GMT+2 substracts 2 hours from the local clock ? Shouldn't it ADD 2 hours ?02:33
linuksoherpes: is it compiled as a module or into the kernel?02:33
mrkrtlDid apt-get install Ubuntu-desktop to install KDE 3.4 yesterday and today Ubuntu is flaky02:33
herpeslinukso, dunno have a look on the wiki02:33
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linuksoherpes: ok02:33
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mindspintry sudo apt-get02:34
bob2mrkrtl: you'd need to define "flaky" better02:34
mindspinkubuntu doesn't like root access02:34
mrkrtlOK I'm getting a "403 Forbidden" error02:34
snowsealhow to install the gtk dev libs?02:34
pregoaburlet, because your hardware clock contains GTM and then two hours must be added to get actual time02:34
thoreauputicaburlet: +2 is 2 hours *ahead*02:34
bob2snowseal: gtk 1 or 2?02:34
bob2mrkrtl: 403 errors are a problem with the apt source02:35
snowsealbob2,  i just tried to instll 2 so i guess \mplayer needs 102:35
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mrkrtlWhen I try to automatically update Ubuntu or do an apt-get update02:35
bob2mrkrtl: I wou;ld guess you're using "backports"02:35
pregoaburlet, don't use GTM for hardware if you are using other OS in the machine...02:35
bob2snowseal: libgtk1.2-dev02:35
aburletprego, server machine02:35
mrkrtlI just checked my sources list and it looks good02:35
bob2mrkrtl: paste it to #flood02:35
podgeTalk later people...02:35
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pregoaburlet, that's right, then02:35
aburletthoreauputic, GMT is 12:35 now, and GMT+2 is 14:35 right ?02:35
bob2snowseal: you know mplayer is in ubuntu, right?02:35
snowsealbob2,  thx02:35
mrkrtlbob2: The whole sources list?02:35
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bob2mrkrtl: yes02:35
snowsealbob2,  no..02:35
mrkrtlOK, will do, thanks.02:36
snowsealbob2,  lol serious02:36
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bob2snowseal: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats, it's in the multiverse suite02:36
thoreauputicaburlet: hmm - I'm confused now :)02:36
snowsealohfuck.02:36
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snowsealwell, got it compiled now. :P02:36
aburletthoreauputic, so am I ... where are you from ?02:36
uggwarbob2: i just have to change the epoch of my package to 2: then.02:36
thoreauputicaburlet: .au (australia)02:36
aburletthoreauputic, .au, ok too far away02:36
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ras\zazeem-afkcan anyone send me that p2p thing to get icons on desktop with cedega?02:37
aburletthoreauputic, If I set timezone like Europe/Paris it works, but if I set timezone as GMT+2 it behaves like GMT-2 ...02:37
mindspintry gmt -2 ;-)02:38
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NicPthoreauputic, where in au?02:38
pregoaburlet, I've never used GTM+-, I use Europe/Madrid02:38
aburletmindspin, it works ... but I don't think that's a good thing :)02:38
aburletprego, Special case here, I need to use GMT[+-] XX ....02:39
dooglusbob2: I read that RestrictedFormats page, but my mplayer still won't play "windowsy" formats.  What codecs do I need in particular?02:39
thoreauputicNicP: east02:39
bob2dooglus: the undistributable w32codecs dll tarball02:39
mindspinI always set Europe/Berlin02:40
dooglusbob2: sounds complicated...  :)02:40
NicPso sydney or canberra?02:40
thoreauputicNicP: south of Sydney02:40
NicPcool02:40
thoreauputicWollongong02:40
NicPi'm in melb02:40
NicPi have a very rough idea where that is02:40
aburleton some distro (SuSE but not Ubuntu) if I set Europe/Zurich I have GMT-2 and Europe/Berlin in correct (GMT+2) although they are both on the same timezone02:41
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thoreauputicNicP: about 80 km south od Sydney02:41
thoreauputic*of02:41
mindspinso you got to blame suse02:41
aburletmindspin, ok, and I blame Ubuntu for giving me GMT-2 when I set GMT+2 !02:42
mindspinyep thats correct02:42
aburletthat was just an example to say that I see weird things with timezones these days02:42
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mindspinits not pretty, but I can live with such..02:42
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aburletmindspin, could you try to set your /etc/localtime to GMT+2 and see if it also behaves badly ?02:43
mindspini solved a courier problem with changing userID and rechanging it02:43
mindspinansd this didnt mak sense either02:44
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mindspinI#ll have a try02:44
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jacquesmerdehow do i get the name of apps i run from the terminal to show up as the window-bar title?02:47
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yccheokHi, anyone encounter [8:36:57]   PRUDPPacketHandler: send failed - java.lang.NullPointerException02:48
yccheokat java.net.DatagramSocket.send(DatagramSocket.java:588)02:48
yccheokat com.aelitis.net.udp.impl.PRUDPPacketHandlerImpl$4.runSupport(PRUDPPacketHandlerImpl.java:693)02:48
yccheokat org.gudy.azureus2.core3.util.AEThread.run(AEThread.java:54) while performing connection in azureus?02:48
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mindspinaburlet, "/etc/localtime" is not a textfile here02:48
thoreauputicjacquesmerde: e.g.  ` aterm -title foo -e irssi `02:49
aburletmindspin, sure, you can symlink it to /usr/share/zoneinfo/Etc/GMT+202:49
thoreauputicjacquesmerde: or, well aterm -title irssi -e irssi02:49
aburletmindspin, ln -sf /usr/share/zoneinfo/Etc/GMT+2 /etc/localtime02:49
jacquesmerdethoreauputic: gnome terminal wont cut it?02:49
thoreauputicjacquesmerde: I haven't tried :)02:49
thoreauputichang on02:49
jacquesmerdeand why does irssi have my own name as white by default? silly silly silly02:50
thoreauputicjacquesmerde: not thet way, no02:50
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thoreauputicjacquesmerde: change the background colour to something like "slategrey"02:51
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sandipjacquesmerde: http://www.karkomaonline.com/article.php/2003062214212740802:51
thoreauputicjacquesmerde: ther's probably another way to change the title for gnome-terminal02:51
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roshlamehello02:52
roshlameI have quite a problem02:52
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mindspinhehe, says gmt+2 and shows gmt -202:52
Echelon-Hcan anyone help me with something not related to ubuntu?02:52
mindspinyou are right02:52
jacquesmerdethoreauputic: but i like having transparent terminals on my predominantly white desktop background...02:52
Echelon-HAnyone knows of a program that I can replace things with regexp?02:53
roshlameI have just finished installing ubuntu and it didn't prompt me to assign a password for the root user02:53
thoreauputicjacquesmerde: then go to irssi.org and read about irssi themes ;)02:53
mindspinperl02:53
thoreauputicjacquesmerde: there's a whole page of them there02:53
linuksowow! beagle works... very nice!02:53
Fator_Deeroshlame: read the wiki about root and sudo02:53
aburletmindspin, damn, do you understand why ?02:53
mindspinKRegExpEditor02:53
mindspinno idea02:53
sandipA make question - Can I make an implicit suffix rule, where the source and destination are in different directories?02:53
mindspinwhere are you?02:54
roshlameFator_Dee, thank you02:54
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jacquesmerdeand why don't the system notification area and window list panel apps sit well panel transparency?02:54
aburletmindspin, Switzerland : Europe/Zurich : GMT+202:54
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thoreauputicjacquesmerde: was that an actual sentence ??02:55
mindspinI'll have a look on my debian server to get a clue wether its a debian or a ubuntu issue02:55
aburletmindspin, great, thanks02:55
jacquesmerdethoreauputic: in my head, yes02:56
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mindspinaburlet, same strange behaviour on three different machines03:01
mindspinwoody, sarge,sarge03:01
aburletmindspin, hmm I'll write to some maillinglists then ...03:01
aburletmindspin, thanks for trying !03:01
mindspinde rien03:01
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yahalommy adsl keeps d/c. i tried running pppoecong again and for a little while it was fine and now again the same (a little while being half a day)03:10
herpesbreezy will be out in 5 months?03:10
yahalompppoeconf i me03:11
herpesmean03:11
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mindspinyahalom provider trouble or ubuntu issue? did you check it?03:11
mezoctober i think breezy is planned for03:11
yahalommindspin, not provider03:11
mindspinrandomly or when you transfer large amounts of data?03:12
yahalommindspin, its ubuntu i think. cos wheni was with cable i had the same provider and no issues, and users on windows also dont suffer from this03:12
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yahalommindspin, mainly when its idle03:12
pregoyahalom, just for cuiriosity, which modem are you using?03:13
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mindspincould be a feature, not a bug, haha03:13
yahalomprego, a router03:13
pregoyahalom, an USB thing?03:13
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mindspinno I think a pc with two nic03:14
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mindspincuse which dsl router comes with ubuntu?03:14
pregomindspin, sorry but then I don't understand why you need pppoeconf03:15
pregomindspin, wait03:15
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pregomindspin, I don't know what you are talking about. Sorry.03:15
mindspini see03:15
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p88how can I find out the location I am downloading something from?03:16
mindspini guessed that yahaloms router is a pc with two nics or so...03:16
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mindspinyahalom is in trouble, not me03:16
pregomindspin, yes, I saw it too late :-((03:16
p88the exact location of the file on a server03:16
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cthulfuegop88: if the server admin has any sense, you don't.03:17
p88if the admin doesn't?03:17
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cthulfuegop88: Then it depends on what software the server runs03:18
yahalom_ok decresing mtu d/c so i tried disabling limiting the mtu, should that do it?03:18
p88:-\03:18
mindspinmaybe, its a standard issue in troubleshooting, have a try03:18
yahalom_its a pain in the a#$503:19
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mindspinwhats in the logfiles after the disconnect?03:19
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yahalom_umm03:19
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yahalom_mindspin, /var/log/ what03:19
yahalom_?03:19
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mindspintail -f /var/log/syslog03:19
yahalom_mindspin, May 30 16:22:17 localhost pppd[6691] : Timeout waiting for PADO packets03:20
yahalom_mindspin, thats a common one03:20
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mindspinthen decreasing the mtu could help03:20
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danko123456hi, Is this the place where I can ask a question about the Ubuntu Linux Operating System?03:21
yahalom_mindspin, i decreased it and it disconnected me and now its still saying: Interface eth0 has MTU of 1400 -- should be 1500.  You may have serious connection problems.03:21
yahalom_even though i disabled a limit03:21
mindspinthen increase it again03:22
cthulfuegodanko123456: You get one guess03:22
leathersrgo ahead danko03:22
cthulfuegoyahalom_: pppoe should be claming that to 149203:22
spanglesontoasthow do I install stuff with point 2 play with ubuntu03:22
danko123456Can I please ask  aquestion??03:22
danko123456I NEED HELP!!03:22
danko123456:P)03:22
danko123456ok, sorry.03:22
cthulfuegodanko123456: We can see that.03:22
danko123456I have to do that every time I come.03:22
kadambidanko123456: yes go ahead03:22
yahalom_cthulfuego, i said NO when configuring it03:22
danko123456thanks, tho, sorry to those that fell for it...03:23
yahalom_mindspin, how do i increase?03:23
cthulfuegoyahalom_: if you have pppoe you almost certainly _do_ want it.03:23
mindspinwait...03:23
yahalom_cthulfuego, then why the heck do i keep getting d/c?03:23
cthulfuegoyahalom_: Otherwise connections will die agter a certain amount of data is transferred.03:23
yahalom_cthulfuego, they die anyway03:23
danko123456yahalom_: if you ahve pppoe, and are wondering on how to set up your interface, pppoeconf could help, and it has a question on how big to make the MTU..03:23
cthulfuegoyahalom_: Is this a new DSL connection?03:23
yahalom_danko123456, i know :)03:24
yahalom_cthulfuego, like 3 weeks03:24
danko123456I thought you might...03:24
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mindspingo to /etc/ppp/ and edit the file03:24
cthulfuegoyahalom_: Been doing this ever since it got enabled?03:24
danko123456you can change the MTU there./03:24
mindspinfor me its called dsl-provider03:24
yahalom_cthulfuego, yes03:24
mindspincould also be provider03:24
cthulfuegoyahalom_: Did your ISP send you a dsl modem?03:24
yahalom_mindspin, mine is also dsl-provider03:25
yahalom_cthulfuego, yes03:25
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cthulfuegoyahalom_: Any chance you can send it back and tell them to send you one that's not broken?03:25
spanglesontoasthow can i do echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/legacy_va_layout03:25
spanglesontoast?03:25
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cthulfuegospanglesontoast: Exactly like that.03:25
spanglesontoastsays permission denied03:25
cthulfuegospanglesontoast: root03:26
spanglesontoasttheres only sudo03:26
spanglesontoastnot root03:26
cthulfuegospanglesontoast: sudo bash;03:26
yahalom_cthulfuego, u think its broken?03:26
sabotasefydkyhjd03:26
kadambispanglesontoast: sudo -s03:26
mindspinpty "/usr/sbin/pppoe -I eth1 -T 80 -m 1452"03:26
spanglesontoastah03:26
spanglesontoastty03:26
cthulfuegoyahalom_: it's certainly having issues that are related to the modem, not the linux box.03:26
mindspinok, edit it : pty "/usr/sbin/pppoe -I eth1 -T 80 -m 1452"03:26
yahalom_cthulfuego, the guys dont offer linux support03:26
yahalom_cthulfuego, so u say once i've limited mtu and i still get hang up i shoudl replace it?03:27
cthulfuegoyahalom_: I've had mine die with "Timeout waiting for PADO packets" a year or two back, and there was an issue with the DSLAM, the ISP end of things.03:27
yahalom_cthulfuego, ah so the isp not even the modem?03:27
danko123456yahalom_: do you have a windows computer, or partition?03:27
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cthulfuegoyahalom_: yes, the MUT issue may kill your *internet* connections, but shouldn't affect the *dsl* link.03:27
yahalom_danko123456, nope03:27
cthulfuegoyahalom_: Well, it could be either.03:27
mindspinyep and we got areas here which only support special kinds of dsl modems03:28
danko123456yahalom_: can I please ask what the issue is concerning?03:28
cthulfuegoyahalom_: Do you have any friends nearby with dsl?03:28
danko123456except you...03:28
yahalom_cthulfuego, no03:28
cthulfuegoyahalom_: crud03:28
yahalom_danko123456, my dsl disconnects often03:28
leathersrspangle, I don't see any legacy_va_layout file there... perhaps that is your problem - not the fact that you are using sudo to echo the 103:28
sabotasehaaaaalooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwweeeeeennnnnnnnnnnn03:28
cthulfuegoyahalom_: is it an ethernet modem or a usb one?03:28
danko123456yahalom, tested with another cable?03:28
yahalom_danko123456, when i try to reconnect with the command it doesnt always work03:28
yahalom_cthulfuego, ethernet03:28
cthulfuegoleathersr: That would depend 100% on kernel version and config.03:28
yahalom_cthulfuego, even when it d/c eth0 is active03:29
cthulfuegoyahalom_: is the line filter installed correctly?03:29
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yahalom_cthulfuego, oh crap03:29
yahalom_cthulfuego, one sec03:29
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danko123456ha03:29
cthulfuegoDo you get disconnected when the phone rings? ;-)03:29
yahalom_cthulfuego, i have one line without a filter03:30
Burgundaviacthulfuego, hey, please remember the ubuntu code of conduct03:30
yahalom_cthulfuego, could that be it?03:30
bluefoxicyshould hoary freeze if left alone for several hours03:30
spanglesontoastjeez looks like I cannot install cs:s03:30
yahalom_cthulfuego, meaning one socket03:30
Burgundaviablue119, no03:30
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danko123456Burgundavia: taht was kinda funny,. too, I didnt expect it...03:30
Burgundaviabluefoxicy, no03:30
bluefoxicyand should moving to 2.6.12 kernel from breezy fix it?03:30
danko123456but, yeah, I mean, no need for that, cthulfuego.03:30
cthulfuegoyahalom_: Is the dsl modem the only thing that's plugged in?03:30
Burgundaviabluefoxicy, probably not03:30
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Burgundaviabluefoxicy, and the .12 kernel has no restricted modules03:30
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bluefoxicyBurgundavia:  then I believe Ubuntu enabling, well, ALL of the experimental features of the kernel may be a bad idea?03:31
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yahalom_cthulfuego, no. i have one phone line with like 5 sockets in the house. all have filters except for one. i use the line for the phone too.03:31
bluefoxicyBurgundavia:  I didn't need restricted modules anyway03:31
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Burgundaviabluefoxicy, if you want to try out an unreleased kernel, go ahead03:31
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BurgundaviaI only run Breezy, I am not that crazy03:31
bluefoxicyBurgundavia:  I'm having more luck on it than on .10, which froze a lot.03:31
cthulfuegoyahalom_: Hmmm. I wonder if you should try running it for an hour or so with all phones unplugged.03:31
spanglesontoastthere any howtos for counter strike source on ubuntu03:32
bluefoxicyBurgundavia:  think Win9803:32
Burgundaviabluefoxicy, ouch03:32
johnnybezakhey guys i upgraded to hoary from warty and now when i close my screen on my compaq i cant wake it back up, but that worked in warty03:32
danko123456yahalom_: did you try wiht a diff cable?03:32
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johnnybezakis there anyway to configure this or is it just a bug and should be reported03:32
yahalom_cthulfuego, i called the land line, still connected03:32
bluefoxicyBurgundavia:  as a bonus the aslr in 2.6.12 gives a minor performance increase, tohugh i'm not sure it's enabled (and I doubt it's noticible when it is)03:32
danko123456johnnybezak: heard that several times...03:33
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danko123456johnnybezak: now, I dont have any good news, tho...03:33
pregojohnnybe2ak, probably something related to acpi03:33
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johnnybezakdanko123456: yeah03:33
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danko123456except that since I heard it b4 it may be on the forums...03:33
cthulfuegoyahalom_: Hmm. I dunno about there, but here there is a limit on how many devices can be plugged into a single line - power level issues.03:33
johnnybezakprego yeah i know03:33
johnnybezakdanko what would it be called03:33
johnnybezaki mean how should i describe it03:33
danko123456prego, johnnybezak^03:33
bluefoxicyno real added security because the delta is so tiny (you need large entropy randomization for security) but certainly helps with cache line invalidation :)03:33
Burgundaviabluefoxicy, I am not a kernel dev, so I have no idea03:33
yahalom_cthulfuego, something interesting in my log. 3 lines. can i query it to u. just the lines.03:33
cthulfuegoyahalom_: just a moment03:34
cthulfuegoyahalom_: go ahead03:34
yahalom_cthulfuego, ok03:34
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danko123456yahalom_: you can as well use http://pastebin.com or the like...03:34
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yahalom_cthulfuego, does that seem to u like it reconnected after the call?03:34
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pregojohnnybezak, try with booting options... perhaps... I've not managed to do that kind of things in my laptop anyway... :-((03:35
cthulfuegoyahalom_: Is eth0 your only ethernet link?03:35
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danko123456johnnybezak: got that?03:35
yahalom_cthulfuego, yes03:35
bluefoxicy<Arjan> The ASLR in PaX breaks things and shouldn't be in the kernel as an option at all BUT our ASLR breaks emacs and a few other things and should be in the kernel mandatory without a disable option03:35
yonilHow can i echo text to a file ? [echo dfsfsdf > bla]  doesnt work03:35
bluefoxicy(well there's a runtime disable option I tihnk. . . pt_gnu_stack does it)03:35
cthulfuegoyahalom_: I think dhclient might be renweing your IP address on that network card every 30 minutes; kicking you off.03:35
yonilnevermind03:35
cthulfuegoyahalom_: Can you paste me the contents of /etc/network/interfaces ?03:36
bluefoxicyanyway I just woke up03:36
skoopI have a joyful printing problem. it used to work fine under warty, but after upgrading to hoary printing doesn't work. in the gnome-cups-manager it does say 'job-printing' but nothing happens.03:36
bluefoxicyand I'm amazed my computer hasn't frozen03:36
skoopthis is a HP PSC 135003:36
bluefoxicyso whatever the diff is between 2.6.10 and 2.6.12, it's a good thing.03:36
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danko123456yonil:) http://pastebin.com/292176 if you duidnt get it.03:36
danko123456skoop: is it still shown in printing?03:37
yahalom_cthulfuego, that would make sense i get d/c about every 30 min03:37
skoopdanko123456: yes, the printer is there, it's connected, everything is as it should be03:37
danko123456yahalom_: did you want to answer my question?03:37
skoopdanko123456: it just doesn't print ;)03:37
cthulfuegoyahalom_: yeah, that eth0 stuff is not correct when using pppoe.03:37
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danko123456skoop: removed readded printer?03:37
cthulfuegoyahalom_: Lemme just fetcha  line from elsewhere03:38
roshlameHave I missed something or does Ubuntu not ship with a C compilier?03:38
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linuksoroshlame: sudo apt-get install gcc03:38
danko123456cthulfuego: pppoe does not go into interfaces....03:38
yahalom_danko123456, i only saw a statement not a question :) what que?03:38
thoreauputicroshlame: sudo apt-get install build-essential03:38
cthulfuegodanko123456: No. I know.03:38
skoopdanko123456: yup, also did that. tried it with and with ptal-init, removing the printer and adding a new printer, disconnecting/reconnecting, restarting cups03:38
danko123456linukso: sudo apt-get install build-essential03:38
cthulfuegodanko123456: dhclient does.03:38
yahalom_cthulfuego, ah go figure03:38
thoreauputiclinukso: no - he needs build-essential03:38
yahalom_cthulfuego, thanx03:38
cthulfuegodanko123456: dhclient on eth0 and *also* pppoe on eth0 brings broken badness03:39
skoop*with and without03:39
yahalom_danko123456, about pastebin u mean right?03:39
danko123456yahalom_: did you try with a diff ethernet cable?03:39
bluefoxicyoh hey I had the coolest dream03:39
yahalom_danko123456, ah ok sorry man. no i didnt03:39
cthulfuegoyahalom_: auto eth0 \ iface eth0 inet static \    address 0.0.0.003:39
danko123456yahalom_: well, that would be my next step.03:39
bluefoxicyX-chat had a button built into the default config that you could highlight a user and send a /dcc command that buffer overflowed mIRC03:39
cthulfuegoyahalom_: Remove the dhcp stuff, add my lines.03:39
yahalom_cthulfuego, add that?03:39
cthulfuegoyahalom_: Newline where the \ is03:39
danko123456man, thoreauputicwhat did I say about that...:-p03:39
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yahalom_cthulfuego, what dhcp stuff?03:40
cthulfuegoyahalom_: 'iface eth0 inet dhcp'03:40
cthulfuegoyahalom_: remove that03:40
thoreauputicdanko123456: I was just a bit slow to see it, sorry03:40
yahalom_cthulfuego, i dont have a static ip though03:40
danko123456bluefoxicy: yeah, that would be nice...if I only knew what it meant...03:40
yahalom_cthulfuego, not a prob?03:41
leathersrAnyone know what causes Ign results rather than Hit results when doing apt-get update?03:41
spanglesontoastcan someone please tell me how to install counter strike source?03:41
danko123456thoreauputic: I said it after you....why are you sorry, I am jj anyhow:)03:41
danko123456spanglesontoast: you have its source? are you sure?03:41
roshlamethank you a lot03:41
yahalom_dankol123456 me broke03:41
cthulfuegoyahalom_: that line is starting dhcp on the pppoe interface when the machine boots up03:41
yahalom_danko123456, me broke03:41
cthulfuegoyahalom_: ... which is what keeps disconnecting you03:41
spanglesontoastdon't be cocky.03:41
yahalom_cthulfuego, aha03:41
spanglesontoastI mean't cs:s03:42
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yahalom_cthulfuego, if i reconfire pppoeconf now will it erase that?03:42
spanglesontoasteither way It still complains about a file not being able to run03:42
spanglesontoastfor the installer03:42
danko123456spanglesontoast: no, Im not trying to be that, you really have its source?03:42
yahalom_cthulfuego, i want to re-enable mtu limiting03:42
spanglesontoastno03:42
cthulfuegoyahalom_: Just rerun pppoeconf03:42
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yahalom_cthulfuego, it wont erase my stuff?03:42
yahalom_cthulfuego, the stuff u just gave me?03:43
bluefoxicydanko123456:  It meant you could click on users using windows and knock them offline?03:43
skoopdanko123456: it's one of those all-in-one machines, and when I start xsane, it does recognize the machine, so it's not a connection issue either, it's just the printing that doesn't work03:43
cthulfuegoyahalom_: or you can enable 'clampmss' in pppoeconf03:43
danko123456cthulfuego: so he really had a line about configuring dhcp in interfaces?03:43
spanglesontoastwhen i try to run setup.exe03:43
cthulfuegoyahalom_: No, what i gave you doesn't affect the pppoe configuration03:43
cthulfuegodanko123456: yes03:43
danko123456skoop: I dont know, I just wanhtd to check you did the basics, cause that is as far as I know...03:43
spanglesontoastit says could not execute external program msiexec.cexe03:43
yahalom_danko123456, iface eth0 inet dhcp03:43
Dalkushow do I apt-get without downloading dependancies?03:43
yahalom_cthulfuego, i never touched that though03:44
skoopdanko123456: heh, thanks :)03:44
yahalom_cthulfuego, is it default?03:44
danko123456bluefoxicy: I hought it was that.03:44
thoreauputicDalkus: why would you want to do that to yourself?03:44
Dalkusbecause prboom requires freedoom wad to be downloaded (18mb) and I dont want or need it03:44
skoopanyoen else have any idea about this problem? printer/scanner problem with HP PSC 1350, scanner works fine, Ubuntu says printer works fine, even gives job-printing status, but printer does nothing03:44
leathersrdpkg --ignore-gepends <package>03:44
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cthulfuegodanko123456: No wonder you kept asking him to change the cable.03:45
Dalkusthanks03:45
leathersrerrrr --ignore-depends03:45
yahalom_cthulfuego, its either that or the cable?03:45
spanglesontoastguess no one wants to help me guess I'll get ready for downloading fed 403:45
danko123456cthulfuego: well... that is a big thing for connections, the cable, try connecting without it...03:45
Dalkusmust I use dpgk? or can apt-get be used?03:45
danko123456especiallly without wireless, cthulfuego/03:46
yahalom_cthulfuego, danko123456 thanx guys03:46
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Dalkusspanglesontoast, stop jumping to conclutions, try asking again later.03:46
yahalom_cthulfuego, danko123456 let me do a reboot and see03:46
spanglesontoastroot@spangles:~# /proc/sys/vm/legacy_va_layout03:46
spanglesontoastbash: /proc/sys/vm/legacy_va_layout: Permission denied03:46
danko123456welcome:)03:46
spanglesontoasti get that error03:46
danko123456dont reboot,. please.03:46
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cthulfuegospanglesontoast: it's not an executable.03:46
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danko123456he did...03:46
cthulfuegospanglesontoast: cat /proc/sys/vm/legacy_va_layout03:46
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spanglesontoastsays 103:47
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cthulfuegospanglesontoast: there you go03:47
spanglesontoastdoes that mean it's on?03:47
cthulfuegospanglesontoast: yep03:47
spanglesontoastso how come point2play03:47
spanglesontoastdoesn't work03:47
danko123456(08:45:43) spanglesontoast: guess no one wants to help me guess I'll get ready for downloading fed 4    .....haha, what a puny attempt....03:47
leathersrdalkus I think you need to use dpkg for that03:47
Dalkusthanks03:47
danko123456dalkus, for more info, man apt-get03:47
cthulfuegospanglesontoast: You should ask the commercial point2play developers that03:47
Dalkuswill do03:48
thoreauputicdanko123456: no need for ridicule, man03:48
spanglesontoastthey are all dead in their chat room03:48
spanglesontoastand plus ubuntu has sudo03:48
danko123456well, I mean...sorry:(03:48
spanglesontoastso I thought someone else may be able to help me03:48
cthulfuegospanglesontoast: I can't help you, I don't have that particular payware software.03:48
danko123456thanks, tho, thoreauputic.03:48
danko123456cthulfuego: why did you let yahalom reboot?:)03:48
danko123456sorry, spanglesontoast.03:49
cthulfuegodanko123456: I never told him to reboot.03:49
danko123456I know, I wanted to stop him:)03:49
spanglesontoasthmm does anyone know the name for point2play as the program name to run it03:49
danko123456do you have it onyour comp?03:49
spanglesontoasthuh?03:49
Fator_Deespanglesontoast: Point<tab><tab>03:49
leathersrAnyone know what causes Ign results rather than Hit results when doing apt-get update?03:49
danko123456do you have it downloaded?03:49
cthulfuegodpkg -L point2play | grep bin03:49
spanglesontoastyea i have membership03:49
snowsealalsa and oss wont work as audio output. only esd works atm. and my mplayer cant use esd atm03:50
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Fator_Deecthulfuego, spanglesontoast: capital P03:50
spanglesontoastah03:50
spanglesontoastty03:50
cthulfuegoFator_Dee: capital letters on linux filenames are a mortal sin03:50
Fator_Deecthulfuego: complain to the cedega devs then :-p03:51
spanglesontoasthmm still doesn't work running as root03:51
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cthulfuegoFator_Dee: I would, but I didn't pay them for that privilege.03:51
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Fator_Deespanglesontoast: complain to them03:51
thoreauputiccthulfuego: hmm, like Xdialog and X ;)03:51
spanglesontoastkk03:51
danko123456spanglesontoast:so how does it work, they send you some files?03:51
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podgethoreauputic: Where abouts in OZ are you from?03:52
spanglesontoastno I download this program it emulates windoze03:52
spanglesontoastso I can play games03:52
spanglesontoast:D03:52
thoreauputiccthulfuego: I agree those are also mortal sins - Wollongong03:52
johnnybe1akhey guys i've determined that it's hibernation, not sleeping. is there a way to make my laptop just sleep instead of hibernate when i shut the lid03:52
danko123456ok, do you know how to start that one, or is that what you are finding out?03:52
cthulfuegothoreauputic: That can be fixed system-wide with a single find command ;-)03:52
thoreauputiccthulfuego: you?03:52
cthulfuegothoreauputic: I'm not podge03:52
thoreauputiccthulfuego: true :)03:52
cthulfuegothoreauputic: (West Melbourne)03:52
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thoreauputiccthulfuego: aha :)03:53
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danko123456wollongong, that is a place? nice...03:53
cthulfuegothoreauputic: To be precise, I'm not from anywhere in OZ, I just live here.03:53
thoreauputicoops03:53
beginnerhello03:53
IRCMonkey_is there a telnet or ssh server installed by default and if so how can I start it?03:53
skoopanyoen else have any idea about this problem? printer/scanner problem with HP PSC 1350, scanner works fine, Ubuntu says printer works fine, even gives job-printing status, but printer does nothing03:53
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Fator_DeeIRCMonkey_: no servers installed by default03:53
podgethoreauputic: Wollongong.. I stayed in a very cheap hotel in W/Gong just after Bathurst (on the way back)..03:53
thoreauputicpodge: sorry - brain isn't functioning03:53
beginnercan anybody help me?03:53
podgethoreauputic: Get some sleep.. ;)03:54
danko123456IRCMonkey_: no there is not, sudo apt-get install openssh-server03:54
beginneri want to fix this:Failed to fetch http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/ubp/dists/hoary-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  403 Forbidden03:54
skoopbeginner: with what?03:54
cthulfuegothoreauputic: bin watching BB eh03:54
IRCMonkey_thanks03:54
podgecthulfuego: You from OZ? Where?03:54
danko123456beginner: it is a problem with their server,  IMO./03:54
podgecthulfuego: Un-Cut?03:54
skoopbeginner: uh oh... I got recommended yesterday to not use backports with hoary...03:54
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cthulfuegopodge: Nono, I'm dutch. Moved here in '97, living in West Melb now.03:54
thoreauputicpodge: cthulfuego thoreauputic: (West Melbourne)03:54
medkitwhich shortcut restarts the xserver?03:55
mindspinctrl alt backspace03:55
leathersrbeginner, the backports repository you are using has been removed - you need to use one of the mirrors03:55
skoopcthulfuego: dutch? whats it with dutch moving to australia? I've been hearing that a lot lately03:55
medkitthx03:55
danko123456skoop: they are kind of for ppl that kno what is to be done, I recommend this usage if you hacve to use it...have it commented out in sources.list always expcept when you install a specific package.03:55
cthulfuegoskoop: Holland is full.03:55
johnnybe1akwhere do i report bugs at?03:55
podgecthulfuego: The poker on Saturday night is better than Big Brother..03:55
skoopcthulfuego: not where I live :-D03:55
danko123456beginner: would you like to comment that out in your sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list ?03:55
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cthulfuegopodge: a poke in the eye with a shovel is also better then big brother ;-)03:56
podgecthulfuego: If only the women were better looking..03:56
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podgesnowseal: Got your laptop out there with you?03:56
skoopcthulfuego: you just shouldnt live in the cities, move to the countryside. we did that a year ago and it's great here. living in a small village near Amersfoort03:56
mindspinno nice women in australia uuuh03:56
cthulfuegoskoop: Ha. Where in holland can I drive for 2 hours and be somewhere without _any_ people (and still in holland?)03:56
snowsealpodge,  yes.03:56
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cthulfuegoskoop: Um, I've lived in a small town in de achterhoek for most of my life.03:57
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skoopcthulfuego: I just need to take my bike for 20 minutes and I'm in the middle of the forest near Zeist, which is beautiful and silent :)03:57
skoopcthulfuego: ok, thats barren countryside as well :-D03:57
medkitand howto save the whole session after restarting the xserver?03:57
pregomindspin, what about killie minoge :-P03:57
cthulfuegoskoop: far more barren then where you are, but still full!03:57
mindspinyeah that's why I was wondering03:57
danko123456beginner: alternatively, you can use a mirror as leathersr said put a xx. after http:// where xx is your countries two letter code...I suggest commenting it out till y ou need a package from there.03:58
thr1cebreezy is still broken?03:58
cthulfuegothr1ce: yes03:58
skoopcthulfuego: ah well, I guess I'm just lucky at where I live. it's nice and peaceful here03:58
danko123456thr1ce: some have fixes, it is still in dev't tho.03:58
mindspinI always thought that you got nice women down there03:58
mindspinut the meisjes in netherlands are real pretty ones03:58
cthulfuegoskoop: Just can't get away from people in holland. even if you find somewhere quiet, chances are someone else will also wander past within 30 mins.03:59
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medkitHowto save the whole session layout before restarting the xserver?03:59
danko123456beginner: I hope I did not write that in vain:-p03:59
cthulfuegoskoop: Drove my wife mental when we lived there :-)03:59
danko123456medkit: yeah, that may be easier than after you restart it:)03:59
skoopcthulfuego: depends on the weather I guess. I walked around in the forest near Zeist two weeks ago with average weather and walked around for over an hour, not encountering anyone03:59
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cthulfuegoskoop: I've been in proper deseret outback now - *that* is proper silence.04:00
skoopcthulfuego: heh. alrighty04:00
medkitdanko123456, i remember people living backwards in time but i am not one of them.04:00
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cthulfuegoMind you, you need to take 40 litres of water and a reserve tank of gas ;-)04:01
thoreauputicskoop: there are many places near cities in Australia where you could walk in the bush for days without meeting anyone :)04:01
cthulfuegothoreauputic: Like Rowville04:01
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nenehi to all04:01
mindspinits much two hot in australia I think04:01
danko123456hi right back at cha.04:01
skoopthoreauputic: for some reason, australia still doesn't really attract me. I'd move to something like Canada maybe.04:01
cthulfuegomindspin: I'm freezing here04:01
nenesomebode latin???????????'04:02
danko123456skoop: well, you are always welcome here:)04:02
cthulfuegoskoop: yeah, politics has gone a little bit fascist here recently.04:02
skoopthoreauputic: but I like to be surrounded with people anyway. I'd love to live in London, but I can't get my wife to agree with that :-D04:02
mindspinyep thats mor for me canada04:02
thoreauputicskoop: It's very different from Europe, for sure04:02
danko123456nene: there is a channel #ubuntu-es04:02
neneyeah I know04:02
cthulfuegoskoop: But they'll probably let you migrate if you're white and educated.04:02
mindspinyou got winter right now?04:02
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cthulfuegomindspin: Winter is just starting, yes.04:02
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neneubuntu is linux?????04:02
danko123456nene, sweet, I am not latin.04:02
podgemindspin: No snow in Melbourne though..04:03
danko123456yeah, it is. nene04:03
neneah ok04:03
mindspinyesterday we got 35 degrees (celsius) here in moffenland04:03
cthulfuegopodge: mt Buller isn't far though.04:03
neneyeah I like it ubuntu04:03
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johnnybe1akwhere is moffenland04:03
cthulfuegojohnnybe1ak: germany04:03
mindspingermany04:03
danko123456nene: hey, me too, what a coincidence taht we would be on the same irc channel;)04:03
nenewhat???04:03
danko123456I got a cold two days ago here in Canada....:(04:03
raDeonneeneedesktop04:03
podgecthulfuego: True.. bit higher up..04:03
cthulfuegoMelbourne is currently a grand total of 13.5C and raining a little bit.04:04
neneI dont understand english very much04:04
mindspinand pretty snowy in winter04:04
danko123456nene: I like Ubuntu too, what a coincidence taht we would be on the same irc channel;)04:04
raDeonHAHAHA04:04
neneah ok hehehehehe    :)04:04
danko123456raDeon: hey, glad to see you are up...04:04
cthulfuegomindspin: Austral;ia has some fairly decent mountains with ski resorts.04:04
raDeondanko123456, that is so nice of you04:04
neneyou know to used ubuntu?04:04
podgedanko123456: Soldier on with Codral..04:04
raDeonit was a close one, i almost died in my sleep04:04
cthulfuegomindspin: And for people who need more, there's New Zealand.04:04
mindspinsure? I knew only from new zeeland being ski resorts there04:05
mindspinindeed04:05
cthulfuegomindspin: Yep, there's heaps.04:05
thoreauputiccthulfuego: NZ has *serious* mountains :)04:05
skoopNew Zealand, now there's a country I'd love to visit someday04:05
medkitI am now going to ask my favourite question of the last 36 horus. Beware.04:05
mindspinbut you got the ozone hole hehe04:05
skoopand I wanted that even before LOTR was released :-D04:05
danko123456nene:  you mean do I know how to use Ubuntu, well, a little.04:05
cthulfuegoskoop: it's only 4 hours away and nice & cheap ;-)04:05
thoreauputicskoop: NZ is exceptonally beautiful04:05
skoopcthulfuego: for you, yes :-D04:05
danko123456podge: no clue what that is supposed to mean, not a soldier fan much myself....04:05
neneyeah hehe  sorry04:05
thoreauputic*exceptionally04:06
danko123456podge, I get it,:)04:06
leathersrhmmmm I am looking at the supposed best backports mirror and the package files look empty !! anyone else see the same ?   ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-extras-staging for example04:06
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skoophmm... maybe I'll try to connect my printer to my slackware machine instead ;)04:06
neneah I am new in this software04:06
thoreauputiccthulfuego: you are a skier?04:06
cthulfuegomindspin: http://www.ski.com.au/04:06
medkitHow to recompile a Kernel without hpt34x and hpt366 modules support?04:06
cthulfuegothoreauputic: nope, not at all04:06
thoreauputiccthulfuego: ah04:06
cthulfuegothoreauputic: marathon ice skating is my thing04:06
danko123456nene: is there something you are trying to get done with Ubuntu, do you need help with something?04:06
podgeWhat has skiing got to do with Linux? ;)04:07
skooppodge: ever played tuxracer? ;)04:07
thoreauputicpodge: penguins? heheh04:07
cthulfuegopodge: Ummm, tuxracer is in the snow?04:07
podgeLoaded question really...04:07
danko123456medkit: well, even during install you can choose modules with expert install04:07
mindspinskiing/linux is fun04:07
podgeSkibuntu?04:07
skoopheh04:08
danko123456:)04:08
cthulfuegoThere's good eating on penguins. not to be sneezed at.04:08
mindspinubuntu boards04:08
skoopSkibuntu will come after breezy then? ;)04:08
mindspinthere will be a fork for those who prefer boarding04:08
skoopthough breezy sounds more like windsurfing04:08
podgeWho chose the name Breezy?04:08
danko123456mr breezy...04:08
danko123456obviously...04:09
cthulfuegopodge: you really think they'll own up? ;-)04:09
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thoreauputicsabdfl probably04:09
podgeIt's probably in the FAQ/Wiki somewhere..04:09
danko123456ok, brb as someone else, try to guess, ok?04:09
podgedanko123456: Probably some guy who left his fly undone..04:09
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podgecthulfuego: Old people?04:10
cthulfuegopodge: yes, like me.04:10
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mindspinwho's old, I'm 4204:10
podgecthulfuego: Older than the woman you feel?04:10
bigfootHow do I increase how many documents are shown in the Places->"Recent Documents" list?04:10
cthulfuegopodge: far older than the woman i feel04:10
dabayeah, so, where can I get help on Ubuntu Linux? please I need some help with it?04:10
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mindspindaba go ahead and ask04:11
dabaoh, come on, dont tell me you did not know it was me...04:11
pregodaba, here you may also find help about contries and people age ;-P04:11
dabaok, well, thanks, tho.04:11
thoreauputicdaba: hi danko12345604:11
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dabahey, that was the dumbest thing I did in a while, it feels good for a while...04:12
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dabaoh, come on...04:12
podge:)04:12
daba:)04:12
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podgeYep..04:12
podgeTwo heads better than one..04:13
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mindspindaba, what was the dumbest....?04:13
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dabawow, how?04:13
podgeTime to go people.. talk later..04:13
podgethoreauputic: Get some sleep.. hahaha..04:13
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egg^-^04:13
dabamindspin, it was like, I was on IRC, and I said, ok, Illl brb, as someone else, and you try to guess who I am...04:13
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mindspinme?04:14
dabaegg, sta ima, kaj linux korists?04:14
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daba:)04:14
dockanehow do i get my kyocera 1750 working in tb and ff (only prints 3 wired lines : [..]  %PS-Adonbe-3.0[..]  ) ? printing from OOo and xpdf works fine.04:14
mindspinwat bedoel je ermee?04:14
mindspindaba04:14
dabamindspin: well, you asked me what was this dumb thing I did...04:14
mindspinsorry, thought you were asking for help04:15
dabak, thaniks.04:15
medkitdanko123456, bugger is: i never really compiled a kernel except "copy paste compiles". It is hard to get familiar with the How-tos to create/compile Ubuntu Linux kernel packages.04:15
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thr1ceubuntu does not use a vanilla kernel does it?04:16
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eggthr1ce: not?04:16
skoopthr1ce: no, it's a strawberry kernel04:16
eruinanyone know how to export/upload info on last songs played in rhyhtmbox?04:16
dabamedkit: , well, I never had to do it neither, a bugger is someone who commits sodomy, sudo apt-get install dict && dict sodomy if you are not sure.....04:16
eruinrhythmbox*04:16
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bigfoothi, how do i increased the number of documents being shown in the "Recent Folders" list? thanks.04:16
thr1ceskoop: funny04:16
skoopthr1ce: thank you :-D04:16
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dabadockane: you are not being ignored, I am looking for the howto...04:17
dabawtf is up with the egg04:18
daba? he comes, smiles, says no? and leaves...04:18
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dockanedaba : thnx04:18
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medkitdaba, many thanks for the linguistic enlightment.04:19
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raDeonnp04:20
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dabamedkit: I got taught the same thing roight here in #ubuntu04:20
skoopwhat package is ptal-init part of?04:20
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skoophpoj?04:21
mindspinapt-cache search ptal-init ?04:21
mindspinapt-cache show ptal-init ?04:21
dabadockane: I know I see a reference in the wiki for kyoceras, and now it is not to be found... I am still olooking, I guess.04:23
no0tichi04:23
no0ticthere's a way to read gmail into evolution via pop?04:23
dockanedaba, i found the wiki page04:23
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dockanedaba, but its german and there's not yet a solution : http://ubuntuusers.de/wiki/benutzer:drucken_aus_firefox_und_thunderbird04:24
thr1ceno0tic: yes, read on the gmail page04:24
Einhoernchenehh guys04:24
Einhoernchengot a question... i can't delete my browser histroy04:25
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Einhoernchenhistory*04:25
medkitdaba, my understanding of the word is like "Gosh", "Damn" "annoying"  but if i can easily live without it.04:25
Einhoernchenin konqueror.. is it a bug or is it a feature?04:25
joey_helloi?04:25
mindspinwhich  browser?04:25
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no0ticthr1ce: yes, I activated the pop service but in evolution I can't set pop3 port, I think it searches for 110 but it isn't04:25
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rizla_hello!04:25
mindspinuse firefox hrnchen04:25
Einhoernchenwell yes i do04:26
Einhoernchenbut04:26
Einhoernchenjust wanna know04:26
freeflyinghi you all ,why can't i use synaptic under breezy04:26
Einhoernchenif its a bug04:26
rizla_i've a little problem.. dows somebody has a starbridge router04:26
rizla_?04:26
mindspingo to home/.kde and have a look04:26
freeflyingwhen start it ,segment fault given04:26
thoreauputicfreeflying: um - /topic04:26
hyphenatedfreeflying: the topic makes it pretty clear that using breezy is a bad idea ;-)04:26
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dabarizla man, if you stopped smoking dope, you waould have less probs,...:-p\04:26
Einhoernchenbreezy?04:26
Einhoernchenwtf..04:26
freeflyingI know it ,but I'm using it now04:26
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rizla_:)04:27
thoreauputicfreeflying: when it breaks you get to keep the pieces04:27
mindspinbreezy will be the next release einhorn04:27
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skoopcan I please vent my frustration for a second?04:27
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dabaEinhoernchen: try #kubuntu too, we mostly use gnome, or something... It seems like a bug here...04:27
Einhoernchenyea04:27
Einhoerncheni allready try ;)04:27
mindspini use kubuntu04:27
mindspin#kubuntu-de04:27
flipyanyone know where can I get the moodle-1.5 debian package?04:27
skoopAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH04:28
Einhoernchenwtf..04:28
mindspinwait einhorn I#ll have a look04:28
Einhoernchenok04:28
Einhoernchenmindspin, query me plz04:28
rizla_i'd like to set my connection usincg a static ip04:28
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rizla_my router ip is 192.168.1.104:28
rizla_what ip have i to set?04:29
Einhoernchenehh04:29
Einhoernchenwhat u want to do?04:29
martiirizla_: depending on netmask04:29
Einhoernchenwith your router04:29
martiirizla_: if its 255.255.255.0 you can set 192.168.1.10004:29
rizla_i don't want to use dhcp, but a static ip Einhoernchen04:29
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rizla_ok, i'm going to try, thanx martii04:30
thoreauputicstavrosg[off] : PLEASE turn that bloody auto away off - it's irritating04:30
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dabathoreauputic is now know as again you beat me to exactly what I was doing...04:31
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rizla_martii, it doesn't work :(04:32
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rizla_martii, it doesn't work04:33
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martiirizla_: you gave me no more info04:33
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rizla_netmask automatically set itself when i set the ip04:33
martiirizla_: you can change it04:34
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martiirizla_: what does router config say04:34
dabarizla, in the file called /etc/network/interfaces04:34
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dabago and change the dhcp dynamic to static04:34
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Newinubuntui need help with my monitor, somebody can help me?04:34
dabaor even through the gnome menu in networking.04:35
dabaset a static IP there, and your router should respect that.04:35
Newinubuntumy problem is that the sistem load, but when is the part of put the login, the monitor turn off04:35
rizla_it's what i'm triing to do04:35
Newinubuntusomebody can help me with that?04:36
Fator_DeeNewinubuntu: you propably have a misconfigured xorg.conf04:36
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rizla_but qhen i set as ip static.. i don't know what ip i have to set04:36
dabarizla_: did you try using System>Admin>networking?04:36
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Fator_DeeNewinubuntu: are you now in the comp?04:36
daba192.168.0.2, or something04:36
Fator_DeeNewinubuntu: or are you dualbooting04:36
dabado an ifcofig now, and set it to the same one you have now.04:36
dabaifconfig04:36
Fator_DeeNewinubuntu: please don't msg, so that others can help you too04:37
rizla_yes, daba04:37
Newinubuntuyesm i have two operative system04:37
Newinubuntuubuntu and linux04:37
daba:)04:38
raDeonlinux isn't an operative system04:38
GNAMauduauduas04:38
Newinubuntuyesterday i ask the same topic and somebody told me that maybe the ubuntu is a screen mode and that i try put shift04:38
GNAMthe standard menate04:38
Newinubuntuor ctrl + alt + f104:38
Fator_DeeNewinubuntu: do you have terminal open in ubuntu?04:38
Newinubuntubut it's not solution04:39
GNAMtell me an example of OS?04:39
GNAMOS linux-based04:39
GNAMaudsuaua04:39
GNAMNO ONE!04:39
foreach...04:39
thoreauputicGNAM: go away04:39
Newinubuntuno because i can't login in ubuntu04:39
GNAM.04:39
Fator_DeeNewinubuntu: press alt+ctrl+f104:40
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Fator_DeeNewinubuntu: so that you get a terminal, and then login04:40
Newinubuntubut the monitor in this moment turn off04:40
Fator_Deeturn it on?04:41
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dooglusdoes anyone understand what "IRQ" numbers mean on the PC?04:41
skoopNewinubuntu: make sure your power cable for your computer is plugged into the wall socket04:41
skoopdooglus: hardware interrupt numbers04:41
rizla_ok, it works04:42
danko123456so, why is it that when you say, apt-get install it gets the dependencies, and when you apt-get remove, it only removes the specific package?04:42
rizla_i forgot to set gateway :P04:42
raDeondooglus, does anyone not undesrstand what "IRQ" numbers are04:42
danko123456rizla_: yup, like a charm:)04:42
skoopdanko123456: because maybe those packages are also used by other packages?04:42
rizla_:)04:42
danko123456skoop: good answer.04:43
bob2danko123456: how could apt know if you want the dependencies for othe reasons or not?04:43
dooglusraDeon, skoop: when I "cat /proc/interrupts", those numbers in the first column are the IRQ numbers, right?04:43
Fator_Deedanko123456: I think it was an app called deborphan to remove packages not used by any program04:43
danko123456thanks.04:43
bob2danko123456: if you use aptitude, then it does actually track *why* a package was installed, so it can do exactly what you asked04:43
rizla_i promised "never more, never more.." then "ok, just another one.." and these are the results! :)04:43
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bob2(reason #4234 why you should use aptitude)04:43
danko123456bob2: should I use it then? again a new thing to learn:(04:43
danko123456dont answer.04:43
Newinubuntuno, not work04:44
bob2danko123456: sudo aptitude install blah04:44
bob2danko123456: sudo aptitude remove blah04:44
dooglusraDeon?04:44
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raDeonwhat04:44
bob2danko123456: congrat's, you've learnt it ;p04:44
dooglusabout the IRQ numbers.  I have a whole lot of stuff hanging off IRQ 11.04:44
raDeonhow should i know i dont use linux04:44
danko123456:) sudo aptitude search sudo aptitude update?04:44
linuksobob2: wouldn'04:44
dooglusis that just the way the PC is wired?  or can I ask some of the kit to use a different IRQ?04:44
bob2danko123456: search is an apt-cache thing04:45
raDeondooglus, the IRQs are assigned not wired04:45
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skoopok, when I run ptal-init setup it recognizes my printer, but when I then add a printer in the gnome-cups-manager it says 'PTAL device not found'04:45
dooglus'cos at the moment, all the things on IRQ 11 die after a minute or an hour04:45
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skoopanyone know why?04:45
bob2danko123456: there's also a full-screen terminal mode for aptitude, "sudo aptitude", which is much like synaptic04:45
danko123456bob2: so I cant search with aptitude? well no biggie, yeah, I saw that one...how about update?04:45
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dooglusraDeon: so how can I re-assign some of the 11's to be 5, say (I have nothing on IRQ 5)04:45
raDeondooglus, in the case of expansion cards you can move them around into different slots04:45
danko123456just use apt-get update, I guess would work.04:45
bob2danko123456: update, yes04:45
raDeonperhaps you could also configure that in your BIOS04:45
danko123456thankks, good to kno.04:45
bob2danko123456: remember, you can't search with apt-get, either04:45
linuksobob2: wouldn't it be a better solution if dpkg or apt-get stored the programs I actually asked to install in a db, and not the deps?04:46
dooglusraDeon: it's the pcmcia port and the ethernet port which seem to be fighting04:46
danko123456yeah, I knew that...8-)04:46
bob2danko123456: duh me, aptitude search blah works04:46
raDeonvery interesting04:46
danko123456heh, see I told you, man, you should learn from the pros...04:46
bob2linukso: dpkg doesn't even know how to get other packages, it's a low-level tool like rpm04:46
thoreauputiclinukso: you're welcome to offer patches for apt ;)04:46
dooglusraDeon: so how are IRQ numbers assigned?04:46
raDeoni wish i could help you dooglus but i'm afraid i'm not very knowledgable in this area04:47
bob2linukso: apt-get was just meant as a demo program for libapt, aptitude or synaptic are what people should be using anyway04:47
elvisi seem to be stuck - no pdf docs will display in firefox -looks like the plugin is there -??04:47
dooglus(I just spent a few hours trying various combinations of kernel parameters, but got nowhere much)04:47
linuksobob2: that is the way gentoo's emerge tool does it.04:47
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bob2linukso: what is the way?04:47
dooglusraDeon: sorry then.  that's why I was asking if anyone understood the IRQ number thingys04:47
raDeoneveryone does04:47
raDeonexcept you.04:47
dooglusand you?04:48
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raDeonno, i understand just fine04:48
danko123456ha, he is joking, dooglus.04:48
raDeoni just dont know how to assign irqs in linux04:48
danko123456has a weird sense of humor...04:48
raDeonim a windows man myself04:48
raDeondanko123456, am i?04:48
danko123456yes, you are... .04:48
Crono5788Anyone know of a good LAN connection howto/tutorial/whatever?04:48
raDeonoh04:48
thoreauputicraDeon: erm - what brings you here then?04:48
raDeonthoreauputic, chillin'04:49
raDeonwaiting for my ubuntu cds04:49
raDeonin the mail04:49
raDeonfresh from africa04:49
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Crono5788Somebody love me please04:49
danko123456?04:50
Crono5788Is there any sort of documentation anywhere?04:50
Crono5788Internet connections on LAN?04:50
raDeonCrono5788, www.tldp.org04:50
Crono5788Woah04:50
Crono5788Cool04:50
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ccchmm, my dvd won't eject. what's up with that device is busy stuff?04:50
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danko123456bob2: I have a question you may not know how to answer, but I am asking, and I dont know why I typed this much and am still typing with no question... Ok, check this out. I install xfce, then I install xfce4 , then I uninstall xfce4  and now I login to xfce session again, and there it looks exactly like xfce4...wassup?:) no serious, am I in xfce, or xfce4 or what is the whole deal?04:50
_hp_danko123456: remove all xfce packages in synaptic and try again04:51
danko123456um...:(04:51
linuksobob2: if I install app A, and it depends on lib B, both are installed but only app A is added to the list of installed apps, so that is app A is removed in the future, lib B will be recognized as orphant unless any other app depends on it, and removed....04:51
danko123456serious?04:51
dooglushmmm - perhaps I can set up some IRQ numbers in the BIOS - didn't think of that.04:51
thoreauputicdanko123456: xfce4 is a meta package I'd say04:51
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elvisstill stuck with the pdf problem acrobat is intalled04:51
danko123456so what can I do about it, do what _hp_ said?04:51
danko123456elvis: what pdf problem?04:52
danko123456you want to edit pdfs? I told you that is not something that is done... or is it?04:52
danko123456or maybe you are a diff person...04:52
thoreauputicdanko123456: apt-cache show xfce4 >> This package is a pseudo meta package:04:52
elvisin firefox no pdf's will display04:52
linuksobob2: danko123456's problem is exactly what I am talking about04:52
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danko123456elvis, download them, and view them in evince, or xpdf04:53
elvisI'll give it a try -thanks04:54
danko123456I mean, why wait for adobe to load its plugin, and why use adobe in linux... two stupuid questions, that I always ask when someone uses AA.04:54
danko123456welcome.04:54
thoreauputiclinukso: and he already told you aptitude solves it04:54
danko123456thoreauputic: so, do what about what I am doing?04:54
mvirkkil Is there any quick and easy way to get X working in breezy?04:54
mvirkkilI mean the command line rules, but so does a 1600x1200 desktop ;)04:54
linuksothoreauputic: hmmm, maybe I'm totaly lost... thought aptitude was just a frontend to apt-get.04:54
danko123456yes, but it also has that dfeature.04:55
bob2linukso: yes, that's what aptitude does04:55
danko123456but I installed thuis with apt-get already, what can I do?04:55
bob2people just need to get into the habit of using it instead of apt-get04:55
linuksomvirkkil: get hoary... :) I am enjoying my 1600x1200 desktop as we speak.04:55
danko123456thanks for telling us.04:56
linuksobob2: but isn't one problem with apt-get that there is no way of removing packages that are no longer needed?04:56
mvirkkillinukso: I had hoary04:56
bob2danko123456: xfce in ubuntu hoary is not the same as xfce404:56
danko123456Ill do what _hp_ said, good idea.04:56
bob2linukso: no04:56
sipefreehello, can somebody answer me a simple question about synaptic package manager? if I install a package, for arguments sake lets say the armagetron game, where is the executable to run? synaptic says it is installed, but a search on the filesystem returns no results on the file. in other words, where does synaptic install apps? i am very much a newb at linux, and am used to mac os x where everything is in the Applications folder.04:56
bob2linukso: isn't a problem that my toaster can't bake cakes?04:57
danko123456ok, Ill try removing everything that has xfce in it, can you run aptitude outside x? right?04:57
bob2danko123456: of course04:57
bob2linukso: aptitude and synaptic are supposed to be the user frontend to apt04:57
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danko123456you shoulldve made a better metaphore, I dont find this one to be exact, Ill make you one.04:58
linuksobob2: if you got a new toaster, that needed 20 xtra devices to work, and you wanted to get rid of the toaster, but the 20xtra devs remained, I'd say you had a problem...04:58
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AevaDdo you think its smart for me to install linux on my computer if i have no idea what anything means?04:58
bob2linukso: you're missing my point04:58
whittisipefree, To check where they are, right click on the package->Properties->Installed Files04:58
danko123456linukso: listen to what is being said.04:58
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rickardwhat program can I use to rip an entire cd down to an iso image?04:58
thoreauputiclinukso: I think you missed the point of the analogy04:58
thoreauputic:)04:58
danko123456apt-get is just a back end, a part of the whole picture, use aptitude from now on, and you will see yourr wishes fullfilled.04:58
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bob2linukso: apt-get doesn't do lots of things, but it';s not meant to.  it's a medium-level package manegment tool, not the high-level one you should be using.04:58
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danko123456or middle end.04:59
danko123456whatever, dpkg is backend I guess.04:59
danko123456anyhow,. let me think of how to put the metaphore.04:59
sipefreethanks whitti04:59
linuksobob2: ok, I get it... Sorry to bother.04:59
bob2linukso: np04:59
bob2sorry for not being clearer04:59
danko123456:)04:59
danko123456ubuntu hug!!04:59
danko123456lol05:00
whittisipefree, no problem05:00
thoreauputicAevaD: read the ubuntulinux.org website and the wikis etc to learn a bit more05:00
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danko123456AevaD: it is somewhat very similar to windows, if you can get someone to set everything up for you, after that you can use it just like you would windows.05:00
linuksobob2: allways thought apt-get/aptitude/synaptic was on the same level :) (learn something new every day...)05:01
AevaDyea i use blackbox for windows, so im used to how to use it, but mainly, just i have no idea how to sintall it05:01
danko123456ok, so, is it a problem that my oven always burns my cakes? that is a better metaphore, I think...well, not really...05:01
danko123456install is simple, the configuration after that is a little tricky, but, I mean, if you ahve two comps, and can get to this channel somehow, usually ppl get their issues solved.05:02
raDeonHAHAHA TWO COMPS05:03
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AevaDdo i have to burn the install cd on a disk or can i run it from windows05:03
AevaDyea i have a second comp05:03
yonilQ: How do i stop my apache server from running ?05:03
danko123456yeah, a cd...05:03
skoopA: apachectl stop05:03
thoreauputicAevaD: you burn it as an image (ISO)05:03
danko123456sudo apache stop maybe.05:03
skoopapachectl controls apache05:04
yonilskoop, i dont have apachestl05:04
yonilits apache205:04
AevaDshould i get the sintall cd or live one(im assuming install)05:04
linuksoapache2ctl05:04
danko123456sudo apache2 stop05:04
AevaDinstall*05:04
thoreauputicyonil: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop05:04
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thoreauputicAevaD: the install CD05:04
skoopah, bah, I'm used to apachectl being in the path ;)05:04
raDeonstop crashing me05:04
yonilthoreauputic, thanks05:04
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danko123456skoop: ah, bah...;)05:05
skoopARGH! everything should work fine, yet printing is still out of the question05:05
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skoopremind me to never ever upgrade anything anymore ;)05:05
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dooglusi don't think synaptic will remove dependancies either though05:06
thoreauputicbye all05:06
AevaDif i install ubunto will i lose windows and all the files?05:06
skoopbye thoreauputic05:06
ccchello. anyone know the command to see which processes are using what devices? i can't eject my dvd cause it's "busy" (with something, i wanna know what).05:06
dooglusccc: fuser05:07
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IIIEars_Googlethoreauputic is a great guy.05:07
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cccdooglus: thanks!05:09
doogluss'ok :)05:09
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danko123456hes ok, I guess...:-/05:10
danko123456:)05:10
danko123456I hate having to learn new stuff.05:10
danko123456Liek this aptitude, I dont even know how to mark a package to remove it...05:10
Echelon-HHi, can anyone help me with hebrew in openoffice?05:10
Echelon-HI tried to install the hebrew package and it all went good, but now I still can't see hebrew.05:11
IIIEars"" - only 5 weeks using linux a lot to learn yet.05:11
raDeonje parle hebrew05:11
Echelon-HraDeon, lol?05:11
Fator_DeeEchelon-H: maybe you have to enable it from somewhere in open office?05:11
Fator_DeeEchelon-H: options, preferences, etc05:11
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dooglusEchelon-H: I think you have to specify the "--lang" option when you run it05:12
Echelon-HFator_Dee, tried, no use. and it seems like I DO have hebrew fonts, but when im trying to switch to hebrew it can't find the fonts05:12
AevaDif i have win xp sintalled and i install ubunto, do i have to format my harddrive or do i not lose any files05:12
Echelon-Hdooglus, ii'll try05:12
Fator_DeeAevaD: depends05:12
Echelon-Hdooglus, what's the command for open office writer?05:12
ozamosiI got two soundcards. Ubuntu uses the wrong one. How do I change soundcard permanently?05:12
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AevaDi only have 1 harddrive05:12
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Fator_DeeAevaD: if you have unpartitioned space, ubuntu can use that05:12
ozamosiEchelon-H, that should be oowriter05:13
danko123456ozamosi: disable one in bios05:13
AevaDwhats that mean?05:13
dooglus/usr/bin/oowriter05:13
AevaDlike it splits the harddrive up?05:13
danko123456AevaD: means you dont ghave that.05:13
AevaDyea i didnt think i did05:13
danko123456AevaD: if you have partition magic, you can create a partition, I suggest a backup complete format05:14
ozamosidanko123456, well, i could, but there has to be some other way... I can change it (never remembers how though), but it reverts at reboot...05:14
IIIEarsAeVad - get some info on grub and the grub menu.lst - also how to edit grub on boot. http://ubuntuguide..org05:14
danko123456ozamosi: I would disable it in bios, I heard that recommended several times:)05:14
danko123456IIIEars: not really:)05:15
danko123456AevaD: do you want to keep a dual boot with your windows?05:15
IIIEarsOpps ".." - bad python ba-ad script. - lol05:15
dooglusAevaD: this: http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/bootitng.html is good at moving all your windows stuff to one end of the disk and making some space for a new linux partition.  it's the only thing that I found would work for me.05:15
AevaDi dont mind formatting windows05:16
AevaDbut arent there things thta can only be done with windows?05:16
Echelon-Hdooglus, nope, oowriter --lang won't help.05:16
danko123456but that is if you want to keep windows, I suggest removing them, just back up everything you need on that hard disk, and format everything.05:16
dooglusEchelon-H: sorry then - I don't know what else to suggest.05:16
danko123456AevaD: well, there are, yes, some, especially things taht are easier to do with windows.05:16
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danko123456AevaD: if you want to keep windows, try what dooglus suggested.05:17
Echelon-His there any support channel for openoffice?05:17
danko123456Im gonna spank aptitude...05:17
IIIEarsAevad - You won't have any problems then with a single os instll ubuntu is the smoothest.05:17
Echelon-Hanyways, I don't know why but some applications won't accept hebrew. amule, openoffice and stuff. but gaim and gedit do.05:17
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AevaDif i do dual boot i need to use http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/bootitng.html right05:18
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IIIEarsAeVad - erm - On board video using Intel i810 doesn't do Accel. - no Doom 3 for you or me. if you have one.05:19
AevaDand is there a way to get rid of windows after a while if i find that i dont need it?05:19
fuckooh, I've used that too (bootitng)05:19
_hp_AevaD: reformat the partition as ext305:19
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fuckoit was rather useful05:19
danko123456now, why does sudo aptitude remove xfce4-* not remove anything?05:20
danko123456man aptitude?05:20
IIIEarsAevad - Did you mean remove the windows restore partition?05:20
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Crono5788How would I get kernel sources onto Ubuntu?05:20
AevaDi think thats what i meant05:20
Crono5788Do they instal by default?05:21
teddoes anyone know how to keep an intranet network running while dialing into an isp over a modem05:21
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Crono5788I need the kernel sources to build my ethernet drivers...05:21
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Crono5788Hello?05:22
IIIEarsAevad - I knew the feeling been using my old machine. not the 2.9ghz - still tho it might be easier to get a new inexpensive HD and park the M$ one on the shelf.05:22
raDeonCrono5788, www.kernel.org05:22
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anto9usCrono5788: they are in the repositories05:23
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bob2Crono5788: what ethernet driver?05:23
pepsihi05:23
Crono5788For a Realtek05:23
Crono57888110S or so05:24
IIIEars<< - needs a vid card. The i810 on board is awful.05:24
pepsihow can i be the most annoying?05:24
bob2pepsi: please don't05:24
pepsibob2, :(05:24
AevaDid like to just get a new harddrive but i cant buy anything05:24
bob2Crono5788: are you sure ubuntu doesn't include that?05:24
AevaDso that means i have to dual boot on one harddrive right, so i need to use that partition thing05:25
Crono5788Relatively sure...05:25
danko123456pepsi: what?05:25
danko123456lol05:25
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Crono5788Or at least I plugged my ethernet cord in and it doesn't work yet, this is my first day with Linux =X05:25
bob2Crono5788: ubuntu includes the amd8111e driver, is it that?05:25
Crono5788AMD?05:25
Crono5788I have an Intel chipset...05:25
bob2realtek seems to rebrand some stuff05:25
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REdsyes they do alot05:26
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kart_how can i mount my windows partition every time when my ubuntu starts! I had to manually mount it and only root can access it!05:26
bob2kart_: put it in /etc/fstab05:26
bob2kart_: if you put umask=002 in the options field, then anyone can read it05:26
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Crono5788So how do I set up the ethernet driver, then?05:26
bob2Crono5788: what does "lspci | grep Ether" print out?05:26
kart_bob2: thanks05:26
danko123456bob2: I learned how to use regexps with aptitude:)05:26
danko123456are you glad to hear that?05:26
bob2hah, cool05:26
Crono5788Hold on05:27
danko123456I mean... sudo aptitude remove xfce4-* does nothing, it is a diff syntax.05:27
Crono5788lspci | grep Ether is the whole command?05:27
bob2Crono5788: yes05:27
disquietdanko - thanks again for your help last night05:27
danko123456hey, disquiet:)05:28
danko123456ok, well, that didnt work as planned:) I remove everything with xfce4 in its name, and then I log in to xfce session, and I get gnome:-/05:28
disquiethow are y'all today?05:28
Crono5788Well hot dog05:28
Crono5788That's cool05:28
danko123456Im ok.05:28
danko123456still sick with a headache...not sure what it is...05:28
disquietI had a headcahe for a week straight and couldn't figure it out... and now I'm not at work for 3 days and it's gone... interesting....05:29
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disquietit's the damn recirculated cubical air!05:29
IIIEarsdanko - did you backslide and sneak a few hours with Windows?05:29
danko123456:)05:30
IIIEarsusorry to hear you aren't feeling well.05:30
danko123456I work on windows 2000:) well, Im fine...05:30
bob2disquiet: dehydration from ac does that to me05:30
danko123456yeah, but it does not last for days...05:30
danko123456and I have a cold, I think, some form...05:31
danko123456OT05:31
disquietI had a migraine on a thursday and a friday, and my head still hurt by the next friday.05:31
danko123456:)05:31
disquietI think I'm just allergic to my job05:31
bob2hah05:31
tswI know I am :)05:31
AmaranthAnyone who wants to beta test the next version of Smeg, join #menueditor. First 5 to join get to test.05:31
IIIEars<< - Caffeine migraines.05:31
bob2Amaranth: why don't you just tell everyone the url?05:31
disquietno, seriously? my job bites and I'm disgustingly underpaid and too much is expected of me. Just like every other job in the world.05:31
disquietBUT - they don't make me wear shoes.05:32
Amaranthbob2: It might break things.05:32
Fator_Deedisquiet: if you have an extremely long headache, you should consult your doctor05:32
Amaranthbob2: Plus #menueditor is where we talk about smeg stuff anyway.05:32
bob2Amaranth: so ask in the other channel and tell people they get to keep both pieces ;p05:32
disquietFator_Dee - I know it. I'm so lazy about going to the doctor.05:32
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anto9usdisquiet: sounds like work related stress might be the cause of your headache05:32
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IIIEarsAmaranth - Your app rocks!05:32
Amaranthbob2: It doesn't really. I just wanted more people to test first.05:32
Fator_Deedisquiet: well, I hope you know what the consequences could be :-\ your decision :-)05:32
Amaranth We're just going to release pyxdg 0.12 and smeg 0.7 now.05:33
jeroen_what program?05:33
disquietanto9us - I'm starting to think that. A little nagging pain just sets in as soon as I turn on my computer there.05:33
anto9usdisquiet: might be worth checking the refresh rate if you have a CRT monitor too05:33
disquietthat's a good idea05:33
disquietI didn't think this job would be as stressful as it turned out to be05:34
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yahalomhow do i edit my app menu thought .desktop05:34
IIIEarssomeone take pity on a new user. - Add drag and drop to md5sum5sum05:34
disquietthere's something wrong with a company when the lowest paid, lowest rung, has everything depending on them doing their job perfectly.05:34
bob2IIIEars:  I still don't get why you're doing it so often that you want a gui tool for it05:35
yahalomi went to ~/.local/share/applications but only a few things are listed05:35
danko123456bob2: I am aware of an issue where when you have lets say two NICs, and one interfaces a LAN, other interfaces Internet, if the LAN one has a gateway defined, you cant get online. How do you think we can go around that if the LAN is based on a router using DHCP? should we define the interface as static?05:35
anto9usdisquiet: I find stress in work isn't caused by tasks (unless you're given impossible ones) but by the people and relationships05:35
Fator_DeeIIIEars: bah, heresy :-p05:35
yahalomcthulfuego, danko123456  it seems to work great now this dsl :)05:35
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yahalomcthulfuego, danko123456  thanx05:35
disquietanto9us - it's a combination of poor training, high expectations, and a big jerk in the credit department05:35
IIIEarsbob2 - erm can you keep a secret? i am a closet p2p junkie.05:35
Fator_DeeIIIEars: I use md5sum often and never have longed for a gui, it just doesn't need one05:36
bob2danko123456: if the machine has two nics, one on the internet, one on a lan, it *is* a router05:36
flipyanyone know where can I find moodle 1.5 package for ubuntu/debian?05:36
yahalomhow the heck would a blind person read this:  ?????05:36
bob2danko123456: defining a gateway on the lan interface makes no sense, the gateway is defined as "the next hop between you and the internet"05:36
danko123456nono... bob2, I am not asking for definitions:-p I mean, do you know what I am talking about?05:36
IIIEarsThere it's said i am so very ashamed. sought 12 step help for it. - pfft. nothing. (meetings were held online.05:37
bob2danko123456: I know of the problem, yes05:37
yahalomthis is braille05:37
anto9usdisquiet: there we go, you need to resolve the issues you have with the jerk in the credit department by the sounds of it. Show no fear ;)05:37
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danko123456right, I know that exactly, but, if the LAN is working on a router, and set up for dhcp, it likely sets up a gateway entry...and we need to disable it to get online with the modem...05:37
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danko123456good stuff, yahalom, glad it worked, as for blind ppl, there are programs that raead it out to them.05:38
bob2danko123456: why is your router configuring it's lan interface with dhcp?05:38
yahalomdanko123456, but that would need braille?05:38
bob2yahalom: there are physical braille devices that raise bumps and lower the bumps under the persons fingers05:38
disquietanto9us - I've figured out the problem. He loves me, hates the guy I work with, so makes it hard on us. If I call him directly, he's sweet as pie. I think he only likes girls.05:38
Fator_Deeyahalom: I blind person can still hear :-p05:38
yahalombob2, woah. that scool!05:38
yahalomFator_Dee, i just didnt know about those devices05:39
bob2danko123456: but yes, you do need to configure it so the internal interface doesn't have a gateway set, by either doing it statically, or telling the dhcp client to ignore the gateway information.05:39
danko123456bob2: its not my router...05:39
IIIEarsHm. being blind means never having to configure XORG. nothing wrong with that.05:39
danko123456bob2: I never almost have issues myself:)05:39
anto9usdisquiet: sounds like alpha male syndrome :)05:39
danko123456well...05:39
disquietanto9us - yep, and he's going to learn how to bow to me, the alpha female of the washington DC branch!05:40
danko123456bob2: how would I do option #2 is it easier than #1 I know how to do #1.05:40
anto9usdisquiet: go girlfriend!!!05:40
bob2danko123456: edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf05:40
danko123456and do what:)05:40
disquietok.... I need to get back to work on... uh... learning how linux works.05:41
bob2danko123456: the easiest option is to beat the network admin with a tyre iron05:41
bob2danko123456: read the file05:41
danko123456thanks05:41
danko123456network admin is this guy I am trying to help, I think:)05:41
IIIEarslol @ bob205:41
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bob2I would guess removing "routers" from the request list would be enough05:41
tedthe network admin is me05:42
tedwho is really a nuclear engineer with little knowledge of networks lol05:42
danko123456everything else is commented out here,. thanks, we wil try that.05:42
bob2ah05:42
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IIIEarspoor ted network admin in a windows world.05:42
bob2the interior interface really shouldn't be configuring itself via dhcp05:42
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danko123456bob2: so use static, then smarter?05:42
bob2setting it statically is less hassle05:43
bob2and way less surprising for whoever has to admin it next05:43
tedbob2 but it is wireless network and my friends come over and use it from time to time, it would be a pain if I had to statically assign everyone05:43
tedit's at my house lol05:43
max_ubuntu_noobiim having a problem with my display i was wondering if any1 could maybe help me....05:43
bob2ted: sure, run a dhcp server05:43
danko123456ok, well, ted, lets do this, no, it will juststaticall y assign your comp05:43
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bob2ted: but the router itself shouldn't be using dhcp05:44
anto9usmax_ubuntu_noobi: just ask your question :)05:44
tedok05:44
danko123456bob2, wow...05:44
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bob2you can run the dhcp server on the router, that's fine05:44
danko123456would you like to epxlain to him what to do, bob2? he has taht issue, I ve talking bout.05:44
tedbob2 doesn't the router have too since it does the assigning of the ip adresses for the wirless connections?05:44
tedor am I missing something05:44
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max_ubuntu_noobii have an lcd display that does 1280x1024 native, but one that res i get fuzzy vertical lines across the display05:44
bob2the router runs a dhcp server05:44
bob2but does not use that dhcp server itself05:45
danko123456yeah...05:45
danko123456:) makes sense...05:45
max_ubuntu_noobion 1024x768 it works fine05:45
tedcorrect05:45
tedthe router has a static ip05:45
anto9usmax_ubuntu_noobi: have you tried changing the number of colours for that resolution?05:46
bob2so why was danko123456's original question about using dhclient on the internal interface?05:46
max_ubuntu_noobino05:46
tedI don't know05:46
max_ubuntu_noobihow do i do that? xorg.conf?05:46
anto9usmax_ubuntu_noobi: yes05:46
bob2ted: what's the problem you're having then?05:46
max_ubuntu_noobiim running a live cd05:46
danko123456bob2: maybe you misunderstood, or maybe I did.05:46
tedmy question to him, was how to keep my eth0 connection running when I dialup to my isp05:46
anto9usmax_ubuntu_noobi: aah, I don't know then05:46
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danko123456I bet I was right, tho...05:47
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danko123456:-p05:47
tedbob2 right now I have to disable eth0 to dialup otherwise all the apps try to find the DNS sever etc over eth005:47
max_ubuntu_noobiwell thanks anyway05:47
tedI tried setting make dialup default thinking that is what that option did, but no luck05:47
bob2ted: show us /etc/network/interfaces05:47
bob2(in #flood)05:47
danko123456http://pastebin.com/29222205:47
danko123456^^05:47
tedyeah05:48
max_ubuntu_noobithe gnome tool for changing res doesnt have any color options05:48
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teddankos link05:48
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anto9usmax_ubuntu_noobi: you could still try editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf and then restart x with crtl-alt-backspace05:48
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bob2ted: so, you have a dhcp server running somewhere else?05:48
max_ubuntu_noobicool ill try that05:48
tedyes05:49
tedbut it is disabled since I am on the internet05:49
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bob2?05:49
tedor well the eth0 is to be precise05:49
Cranehello05:49
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anto9usmax_ubuntu_noobi: my flat screen, it's a laptop, has to be 24 bit colour05:50
danko123456bob2: just get his interfaces to use a staticx IP in the range after 192.168.1.100 and not ahve a gateway defined...05:50
tedto connect to the isp over the dialup I have to disable the eht0 connection05:50
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bob2danko123456: yes05:50
bob2this is a very odd network setup05:50
ted why is it odd?05:51
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bob2danko123456: make sure the ip you assign is outside the range the dhcp server is handing out05:51
danko123456why do you say, ine is the same as that, I have a LAN with a static IP, and pppoe...05:51
danko123456why outside??05:51
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bob2danko123456: eh?05:51
max_ubuntu_noobixorg.conf is a bit confusing. it lists all resolutions for every color depth05:51
danko123456bob2: you do it, I dont kno how.05:51
bob2danko123456: because otherwise you might get two machines with the same IP05:51
max_ubuntu_noobihow do i know which one is the default?05:51
bob2which is bad05:51
Uzzihi,who know a solution for aic7xxx bug?05:51
snowsealhow to play mp3-radio or streaming windows media?05:51
bob2snowseal: mplayer05:51
danko123456bob2: yeah, it would not be good:)05:51
danko123456is it gonna work, then?05:52
bob2danko123456: why do you guys have a seperate dhcp server?05:52
bob2danko123456: if you assign an ip outside the dhcp range, yes05:52
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tedThanks for the help I have to run, somewhere I have to be05:52
danko123456is the router gonna give that IP if he does not give out those?05:52
tedbecause one is for my internal network the other is assigned my the dialup server05:52
mdkedid the guy who was on here yesterday with that gpg error on the ubuntu archives resolve the problem? got another guy reporting the same thing in #ubuntu-it05:52
anto9usmax_ubuntu_noobi: try to delete the ones you don't want05:52
danko123456bob2: well, see, he had to go:) anyhow, I dont have a dhcp server I use a huib05:52
danko123456ted, just a sec, tho05:52
tedok05:53
bob2ok, you guys are very confusing05:53
max_ubuntu_noobiSection "Screen"05:53
max_ubuntu_noobiIdentifier"Default Screen"05:53
max_ubuntu_noobiDevice"Intel Corporation 82815 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] "05:53
max_ubuntu_noobiMonitor"TXLCD17JAGBL"05:53
max_ubuntu_noobiDefaultDepth2405:53
tedbob2 how would you suggest to setup an internal wireless network and have to use dialup to connect to the internet then?05:53
danko123456ted: try this: http://pastebin.com/292239 as your /etc/network/interfaces05:53
tedI am will admit that networking is a weakness of mine05:53
max_ubuntu_noobii should be doing 24bit already no?05:54
danko123456bob2: well, to me you are more confusing, I asked you a specific question every time, and you came back with an explanation... of internal, and external DHCP, and that...but, thanks, I appreciate it.05:54
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bob2danko123456: your question made no sense05:55
bob2and didn't end with a question mark05:55
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bob2or explain the network architecture05:55
tedthanks danko I will try that later, I have to run now, Thanks bob205:55
anto9usmax_ubuntu_noobi: first of all, don't paste in here, use #flood... and yes it looks like you're on 24 bit, but that could be the problem, maybe you need a different colour depth05:55
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danko123456ok, well, Ill try harder nex time:)05:55
danko123456I cant get that xfce thing to use xfce instead of xfce4, tho...05:55
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max_ubuntu_noobiok sorry05:56
internet1hello, cannot h ave audio working05:56
anto9usmax_ubuntu_noobi: other options could be 15, 16 and 3205:56
bob2ted: the setup I used to use was this: a single machine with a modem and an ethernet card.  it ran a dhcp server on the ethernet interface, which clients could use.  the modem was the default route, and things outside the local net were just inaccessible when the link was down.05:56
internet1anybodycan helko me?05:56
bob2internet1: try #ubuntu-it05:56
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internet1anybody can help me.05:56
internet1sorry, i am in trouble position.05:57
danko123456 /join #ubuntu-it that is fine,05:57
UbuntianM$ stole our logo :-/ http://www.im2.com/05:57
Uzzihi,who know a solution for aic7xxx bug?05:57
danko123456bob2: ok, well, do you wanna discuss what you just said, and the whole network setup thing I was talking about?05:57
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mdkenice pass bob2 ;)05:57
snowsealyess bob2 thanx it works05:58
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Fackamatohi05:58
danko123456hey05:58
Fackamatoi'm trying to get a labtec webcam to work (identifies as logitech with lsusb)05:58
Fackamatobut the correct module isn't autoloaded05:58
bob2danko123456: anpther time, it's 2am and I've been up since 080005:58
Fackamatoand I've loadaed every usb and media module and I still don't get a /dev/video1 device (video0 is my tv carD)05:58
Fackamatoany idea?S05:58
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dell500is IM2 free??05:59
danko123456k05:59
Ubuntiandell500, dunno05:59
Ubuntiandell500, i think so05:59
danko123456anything is free (mopney wise) if you steal it, and never get caught.06:00
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dell500ya, but what if you get caught?06:00
danko123456then it is not free.06:00
danko123456you pay a lot more...06:00
dell500lol06:00
dell500good philosophy06:00
Ubuntiancan u believe they stole that logo?06:00
Fator_Deedon't get caught :-p06:00
danko123456who stole what logo?06:01
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Ubuntianmicrosoft! they stole the ubuntu logo http://www.im2.com/06:01
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danko123456I bought the most f**in expensive thermometer at a shoppersdrug mart, and it totally reaks, I mean it shows my temperature as something I know it is not...06:01
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danko123456what is im2?06:02
snowsealhow to get the media associatons right? i got a new gmplayer build.06:02
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Ubuntianinternet messenger 206:02
danko123456ha06:02
Fator_Deeinstant messager 2 or something like that06:02
Jeltehi all.. just a quick question:  how/where do change my default PATH?  i want to add a directory to it, but i can't see where i should do this06:02
Fator_Deeoh06:02
danko123456wow06:02
danko123456awesome06:02
Uzzihi06:02
skoopheh, indeed, the im2 logo looks a lot like the ubuntu logo06:02
danko123456well, there are several logos on the same thing...but, they stole gaim...:-p06:02
Fator_DeeJelte: ~/.bashrc06:02
AevaDhow do i dual boot win xp and ubunto on one harddrive06:03
m4lc0mHi all!06:03
AevaDi dont have ubunto installed yet06:03
Fator_DeeJelte: argh, make that ~/.bash_profile06:03
danko123456hey m4lc0m, and Uzzi.06:03
mindspingot space on your disk?06:03
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Uzziwho know a solution for aic7xxx bug?06:04
dell500im2 is powered by ms??06:04
Ali_BabaAevaD:just install Ubuntu,it should work ok :)06:04
Ubuntianlook at this: http://img170.echo.cx/my.php?image=medbucketright10jf.jpg06:04
danko123456Jelte: as well, you can use /etc/bash.bashrc and append a line similar to this, export PATH=$PATH:/dir/folder06:04
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snowsealAevaD,  create free unpartitioned space after the windows partition. then put in the ubuntu instal cd. ;)06:05
mindspinbut he needs space on the HD06:05
AevaDdont i have to partition my harddrive or something?06:05
JelteFator_Dee, danko123456, thanks!06:05
Ali_BabaAevaD:make a linux partiton for Ubuntu.06:05
AevaDyea how do i unpartiton some space06:05
mindspinyou have if there is no space left06:05
Einhoernchenmindspin, didn't u want to work? ;)06:05
dell500has anyone here installed an ATI 3d accelerated card successfully??06:05
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mindspineinhoernchen ,I am working06:05
Einhoernchenheh06:05
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Einhoernchenok ;)06:06
Einhoernchenlol06:06
AevaDi still haver like 50 gigs left on my harddrive06:06
mindspinjust keeping an eye on this window06:06
snowsealAevaD,  by resizing your current partition. i use partition magic for it. but there are alternatives i guess.06:06
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dell500wow, Ubuntian you're so right lol06:06
AmaranthSmeg 0.7 released! Great new features in this one. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3818306:07
AevaDdo i have to buy partiton magic?06:07
IIIEarsAvead - Bah pay $$ i have never paid for "IT" in my life try qtparted on a knoppix live CD.06:08
danko123456AevaD: yes...06:08
mindspinyep06:08
danko123456unless you steal it and dont get caught.06:08
AevaDlol06:08
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AevaDyea looks like thats what ill have to do unless there are free alternatives06:09
IIIEarsneed a free tool to burn iso's on windows? - try "ISO Burner Powertoy" by Alex Feinman.06:09
danko123456I mentioned this concept earlier...06:09
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IIIEarsno adware no hassles.06:09
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IIIEarsA'course linux has cdrecord and k3b, gnomebaker and others on on most live CDs06:11
m4lc0mcan anyone help me with this?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3790106:11
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Einhoernchenbrb06:12
Fator_DeeAmaranth: ooh, aah, XFCE support, how well it handles that?06:12
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AmaranthFator_Dee: Well, as long as XFCE complies with the menu spec the only problem you might have is smeg showing the wrong icons for things you haven't editted.06:13
Fator_Dee^_^06:13
IIIEars<perk> - cool06:13
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max_ubuntu_noobiits working fine now at 16bit06:14
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max_ubuntu_noobithanks heaps!06:14
fuckohidey ho... ah, what is a good place to start, when you install ubuntu on a laptop and the sound doesn't work?06:14
icemanAny one know where you can find a complete pakag elist for ubutnu ....06:14
mindspinubuntuforums06:14
Fator_Deefucko: logfiles too, dmesg, etc06:15
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IIIEarsmax_ubuntu_noobi - We got ya now. you got to stay and help. - lol - wide grin.06:15
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Amaranthiceman: For main, restricted, multiverse, and universe? You can pull the Packages.gz files off the server.06:15
max_ubuntu_noobihehhe06:15
Amaranthfucko: Can you change your nick please?06:15
icemanAmaranth just apt-get that file06:15
mindspin;-)06:15
Zodiachello all06:16
fuckomakes no difference to me06:16
IIIEarsxlnt idea  :)06:16
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Amaranthiceman: No, you have to go to http://archive.ubuntu.com and find the files.06:16
danko123456fucko: haha, check out the forums, ubuntuforums.org, they have sound issues, there..06:16
ZodiacWhat is the name of the package for the mozilla java plugin?06:16
Amaranthfucko: It does to me, please change it.06:16
neirasAnyone know if we'll be getting inotify-enabled kernels and reiser3 with extended attributes any time soon?06:16
fuckoone moment please06:16
AmaranthZodiac: That's a part of installing Java, the wiki explains how to do it.06:16
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ZodiacGot a link dog?06:16
neirasdog?06:17
Amaranthhttp://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java1506:17
danko123456www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/java06:17
Zodiacha ha fucko, nice name b06:17
Zodiacdanke!06:17
danko123456yeah, dog, its slang...06:17
danko123456like, YO...06:17
neirasy0 y0 h0m1306:17
IIIEarsneiras sends a newb to google - lol06:17
neirasl4m4z06:17
danko123456yeaha...06:17
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Zodiacbut, you should pronounce it "dawg"06:17
Zodiacnot dog06:17
danko123456haha06:17
danko123456lol06:17
danko123456man, :)06:17
Zodiaccome now06:17
neirasgod.06:17
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ZodiacWe must be proper with our slang06:17
goldfishIndeed.06:18
max_ubuntu_noobisomeone's watching too much american idol06:18
IIIEarslol06:18
Zodiacha!06:18
danko123456:)06:18
ZodiacI take offense06:18
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mindspinwhat app is american idol?06:18
goldfishVV3 4R3 N0+ (001 3N0UG|-|.06:18
goldfishApparantly.06:18
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Zodiacugh I hate non-free status06:19
Zodiacstupid software companies06:19
JDahlIt disturbs me I could actually read that06:19
AmaranthI couldn't.06:19
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dell500has anyone here gotten 3d acceleration with an ati card (in my situation, 9600xt)06:19
icemanAmaranth Thanks ..06:19
IIIEarslol - i couldn't use hacker slang even if i wanted to found a python script with ispell for xchat that corrects nrly everything06:20
sobersabrehi. what do i do to set driver parameters ?06:20
sobersabreon boot06:20
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sobersabrei mean when it loads06:20
max_ubuntu_noobidoes x uses diff fonts on diff resolutions?06:20
sobersabremax_ubuntu_noobi, no.06:20
mindspin"/boot/grub/"06:20
sobersabreit uses sizes in points ( pixels)06:20
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max_ubuntu_noobifonts seemed to look a lot better at 102406:20
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sobersabremax_ubuntu_noobi, because there's aliasing effect.06:21
sobersabreu need to enable anti-aliasing06:21
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max_ubuntu_noobiive heard about that. how do i do it?06:21
IIIEarslol - get a CRT. - j/k06:21
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IIIEarsbit envious06:22
sobersabrei want my ipw2200 module to be loaded with led=106:22
max_ubuntu_noobithen ill go blind06:22
IIIEarslol06:22
sobersabrewhere do i change what to enable it ?06:22
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sobersabremax_ubuntu_noobi, what windows manager do you use ?06:22
Zodiacoh this is weird06:22
ZodiacWhich SDK do I want?06:22
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ZodiacThe debian specific one, or the other one?06:22
max_ubuntu_noobifluxbox usually but trying ubuntu/gnome on this box now06:23
danko123456Zodiac: from where?06:23
danko123456you likely want the JRE, too.06:23
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Zodiacumm06:23
Zodiacfrom....06:23
Zodiacdeb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ hoary java06:23
Amaranthmax_ubuntu_noobi: You'll probably want a menu editor then. :) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3818306:23
ZodiacI am using the package manader06:23
danko123456Software Development Kit, Java Run-time Environment/virtual machine06:24
AmaranthZodiac: That's illegal.06:24
Zodiacummm06:24
ZodiacWhat??06:24
ZodiacIt is on the damn wiki06:24
Zodiacit better not be06:24
danko123456yeah, the damn wiki is illegal totally...06:24
danko123456I would shut it down if it were for me...06:24
Amaranththe wiki mentions many illegal things06:24
danko123456I still think the easiest install for a Java is teh 4.10 version of Ubuntuguide.org, explains the manual process very well.06:25
danko123456jj^^^^^06:25
Amaranthyou probably wouldn't get in trouble for getting java from there, but the person you're downloading from is in big trouble06:25
Zodiacokay... so what are you saying? I should install the first one?06:25
danko123456jj about the shutting down the wiki, I mean.06:25
Zodiacok crap shoot in 5, 4, 3, 2...06:25
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danko123456Zodiac: would you like to try the best IMHO process?06:26
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Zodiacwell I am already doing it...06:26
Zodiacha ha06:26
danko123456http://ubuntuguide.org/4.10/index.html#jre is the one I mean06:26
ZodiacAlert the authorities!06:26
max_ubuntu_noobiAmaranth, why the editor?06:27
danko123456cause it is sooooo cool max_ubuntu_noobi.06:27
max_ubuntu_noobii see :)06:27
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max_ubuntu_noobiand how do i do the antialiasing thing?06:28
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sobersabremax_ubuntu_noobi, go into the "System"->"preferences"->font06:28
ZodiacWhat's done is done06:28
sobersabredo u have a crt or lcd ?06:29
max_ubuntu_noobilcd06:29
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mindspinFeierabend06:29
sobersabreuse "subpixel blabla" then06:29
max_ubuntu_noobiquite a few options here06:29
max_ubuntu_noobiif u click details06:30
sobersabremax_ubuntu_noobi, play and choose what's best, but use subpixel rendering06:30
max_ubuntu_noobithanks06:30
sobersabrei mean smoothing.06:30
Zodiacit worked06:30
ZodiacThanks for the illicit wiki fellas06:30
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sobersabreANYbody: where do i write what to enable a module parameters to be loaded each time i load the module, without me mentioning it on the command line  ?06:30
Einhoernchenmindspin, can u come 2 query one more time?06:31
max_ubuntu_noobino need to restart x?06:31
danko123456welcome06:31
sobersabremax... i don't think so....06:31
sobersabreyou can though...06:31
max_ubuntu_noobiyeah looks much better06:31
sobersabreenjoy.06:31
max_ubuntu_noobicool :)06:31
max_ubuntu_noobiheheh06:31
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Crono5788How do I install RPM packages...?06:33
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Einhoernchenehhh Crono5788 with ubuntu?06:34
haizi#kbuntu06:34
Crono5788The RPM command didn't work06:34
Crono5788Yeah06:34
sobersabreCrono5788, usually you don't06:34
JackHannahey guys06:34
Crono5788Oh06:34
sobersabrebut you can install alien06:34
Crono5788Uh, hm...06:34
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Crono5788Alien, eh?06:34
sobersabreCrono5788, usually you have all the packages you need in .deb format06:34
Quest-MasterHow can I force something to umount?06:34
Crono5788I'm trying to install ATI drivers...06:34
Crono5788They came in .rpm06:34
sobersabreCrono5788, use tar.gz06:34
JackHannaanyone running ubuntu on PPC06:35
Fator_DeeCrono5788: there are ati drivers in the ubuntu repositories06:35
sobersabreJackHanna, what is the question ?06:35
danko123456I do sometimes, nalioth does, xappe does, and so on, JackHanna.06:35
JackHannaoh.. don't really have one.. I just installed ubuntu on my ibook...06:35
JackHannaseems to be working well06:35
Fator_DeeCrono5788: you can install them from synaptic, and them make the necessary changes to configurations06:35
sobersabrehehe06:35
Crono5788Okay06:35
danko123456JackHanna: try making it sleep...:-p and, try getting the wireless to work...06:36
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JackHanna are there any good PPC repositories I could install to get things like mplayer and stuff working06:36
JackHannaI got the sleep working06:36
danko123456realy?06:36
danko123456g4?06:36
JackHannasleep works and so does wireless06:36
danko123456would you care to tell me how?06:36
JackHannano G3 ibook06:36
danko123456ah...yeah, tahts easy:)06:36
sobersabrenice :)06:36
danko123456cool.06:36
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b0urn3i'm having some issues with phpMyAdmin...anyone familiar with it?06:36
JackHannathere's a small shell script on the ubuntu forum to get the sleep working.. really easy06:36
danko123456um, repos....06:36
sobersabreBTW any plans to be ppc64 ubuntu ?06:36
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Fator_DeeCrono5788: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto06:37
danko123456why am I sick and feel dizzy if I dont have a fever??06:37
Einhoernchengreat .. my mouse is empty06:37
danko123456I hatge that.06:37
sobersabredanko123456, you are drunk .. ?06:37
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sobersabrewhere are you in the world ?06:37
danko123456sobersabre: nice, I wish...:(06:37
danko123456Canada.06:37
EircBthat explains everything06:38
sobersabrehm... when was the last time you drank a glass of water today ?06:38
danko123456yeah, yeah...06:38
Einhoernchensobersabre, today?06:38
Einhoernchen;)06:38
danko123456And Im a moron that is addicted to smoking...06:38
danko123456Ill go haev one of those...06:38
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danko123456but I ve been scik for 2 days alreadu.06:38
Crono5788E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)06:38
Crono5788E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?06:38
danko123456Crono5788: close your synaptic.06:39
sobersabreCrono5788, close all apt-get/synaptic/aptitude instances ...06:39
JackHannaanyone know of some ubuntu PPC users www sites or anything like that06:39
sobersabredanko123456, you probably have a problematic immune system: because normally you should have some fever.06:39
bob2JackHanna: why?06:39
danko123456JackHanna: come here a little later, look for nalioth, he may kno if noone else does.06:39
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mcquaidsigh i never realized that nautilus doesn't have invert selection, how can it not have that?06:40
bob2JackHanna: there's not that much ppc-specific information needed for ubuntu06:40
bob2mcquaid: file a bug!06:40
danko123456mcquaid: I dont like nautilus that much...06:40
Crono5788E: Couldn't find package xorg-driver-fglrx06:40
JackHannawell.. I'd like some on getting some software working..06:40
mcquaidwell, i searched and found a patch someone made for invert selection back in 200106:40
JackHannaie.. is there a repository to get mplayer working06:40
bob2JackHanna: what doesn't work on ppc?06:40
bob2everything in ubuntu works fine06:40
mcquaidheh, guess it never made it in mainline06:41
bob2JackHanna: wiki.ubuntu/.com/RestrictedFormats06:41
danko123456you cant like, select multiple things with your mouse, like...you knwo what I mean, like, the little square that selects thing...06:41
bob2mplayer is in ubuntu06:41
Crono5788Why can't it find the package?06:42
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danko123456not right source.list file?06:42
JackHannaoh wait I fould it06:42
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sobersabrewhat do i need to do to have led=1 passed to ipw2200 on load?!?!?!?!06:43
Crono5788Source.list, you say...?06:43
bob2Crono5788: you'reon i386 with a default /etc/apt/sources.list, right?06:43
bob2sobersabre: please don't do that06:43
danko123456sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list06:43
sobersabrebob2, why ?06:43
EircBCrono5788,  how is linux day 2 going?06:43
bob2using more than one final punctuation character is annoying06:43
bob2and makes you seem obnoxious and silly06:43
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sobersabreah, sorry, i thought you meant to use the06:43
Crono5788More and more confusing by the second06:43
sobersabreLED06:43
EircBsilly06:43
Crono5788But luckily I'm online via Ethernet06:43
EircB:)06:44
sobersabrebob2, i don't care how do i look like, most of the time.06:44
Crono5788Which I thought didn't work, but it did and I just had to tell it to turn on x.x06:44
EircBit's about as silly as having a numer at the end of your nick06:44
Crono5788bob2, yeah.06:44
danko123456sobersabre: he means like, more chances for someone to helop when you look cool, then when you do that.06:44
Crono5788lol06:44
bob2sobersabre: well, I'll bear that in mind when helping you in future06:44
danko123456hehe06:44
Crono5788CS clan thing06:44
bob2sobersabre: make a file called /etc/modutils/ipw210006:45
Crono5788Back when I used Windows06:45
Crono5788Back in the day06:45
sobersabreok...06:45
bob2sobersabre: in it put: options ipw2100 led=106:45
sobersabreyou mean ipw220006:45
RytmisHi! I'm experiencing network trouble with ubuntu - namely that during the install and on the livecd networking is fine, but after installing and booting, network fails to come up. Booting the same machine with a Gentoo installation cd brings up the network just fine.06:45
sobersabreok06:45
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nernhey there06:45
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sobersabrethank you... you see, in spite i  look silly you helped me, because i am actually nice :)06:45
bob2sobersabre: then run "sudo update-modules"06:45
sobersabreok, bob2 thank you06:46
EircBRytmis, that could be any one of a few things06:46
bob2sobersabre: then: sudo rmmod ipw2100 ; sudo modprobe ipw210006:46
bob2sobersabre: then the led or whatever should work06:46
sraymondhi all06:46
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RytmisEircB: Ok, can you help me narrow it down?06:46
bob2and it should work after future reboots06:46
EircBdriver, interface, routing,06:46
linuksoRytmis: take a look at /etc/network/interfaces06:46
danko123456bob2: that aptitude is a little slower than apt-get, right?06:46
toxicfum1is there a tool like NetStumbler for X? which shows all visible Wireless routers, their SSID and the signal/noise ratio graph?06:46
bob2danko123456: yeah, I'm not sure why06:46
Rytmislinukso: it contains iface eth0 inet dhcp and auto eth0. Does it need something else?06:46
danko123456well, likley cause it is "more" than apt-get....06:47
bob2toxicfum1: kismet is a better tool than netstumbler for finding networks06:47
sobersabrebob2, it is working now, i just wanted to automate06:47
linuksoRytmis: auto eth0 should start your nic06:47
bob2but has no graphs06:47
bob2not sure what you'd actually use graphs for06:47
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destinythis is me again, too...06:47
bob2sobersabre: yes, I know, now it's automated06:47
toxicfum1bob2: i downloaded kismet, but i don't know how to use it, maybe you can help me?06:47
RytmisEircB: Looks like the driver loads fine, and I can bring the interface up. It just fails to get an IPv4 address :(06:47
destinythis is the comp I am setting up...the girl calls herself destiny...06:47
linuksoRytmis: unless its a wireless...06:47
JackHannahow do I get the codecs to play quicktimes?06:47
bob2toxicfum1: run "sudo kismet"06:48
Rytmislinukso: it's not.06:48
bob2JackHanna: www.mplayer.hu06:48
bob2JackHanna: and read very very very carefully06:48
bob2only one codec pack will work on ppc06:48
destinywww.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats , JackHanna too...06:48
EircBRytmis, do the logs say anything?06:48
destinymaybe not..06:48
toxicfum1bob2: give me a minute :)06:48
RytmisEircB: what logs, specifically?06:48
EircBdmesg06:48
JackHannacool06:48
AevaDhow do i create a new partition to install linux06:49
RytmisEircB: looks to me like dhclient just doesn't get an IP.06:49
destinyAevaD got that partition magic?06:49
AevaDyes06:49
RytmisEircB: I'm leaning towards routing.06:49
toxicfum1bob2: okay, i did that but it's giving an error saying i have to configure at least onepacket source06:49
JackHannabut alot of the stuff I've found about adding codecs and stuff are all for i386 and not ppc06:50
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EircB*shrug*06:50
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EircBI don't know much about dhcp06:50
destinyAevaD can you try figuring out how the program works?06:50
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destinywhats a spangle, anyhow, thats a make up word, right?06:50
bob2toxicfum1: yses, you need to configure /etc/kismet/kismet.conf06:51
toxicfum1bob2: okay, i tried doing that yesterday..not with too much success i guess06:51
Crono5788AveaD, I tried using partiton magic to install Linux a few times06:51
Crono5788Each time it didn't work06:51
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AevaDthat sounds good06:51
Crono5788It's a lot easier to just get a second hard drive06:51
apowanyone here using a highmem enabled kernel?06:51
destinywhat you are trying to do, though, crono, is resize the partition.06:52
AevaDyea but i cant06:52
nernive never used partition magic to install linux06:52
nerni like using a livecd with qt or gparted06:52
Crono5788Hm?06:52
Crono5788Yeah06:52
Crono5788I resized NTFS06:52
Crono5788And then made an ext3 and swap06:52
destinyand created a new partition?06:52
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destinyeverything, and still didnt work?06:52
Crono5788Yup06:52
destinyhum...weird...how come?06:52
Crono5788Said it couldn't find the OS or something06:52
AevaDshould i click create new partition or install new os06:53
destinydid you choose the wrong option during install?06:53
Crono5788I don't think so...06:53
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Crono5788Oh well, doesn't matter now06:53
destinyread the manual, aevad, you are best off that way, the help files...06:53
mindspincrono mbr messed up?06:53
fuocohi. what gcc does ubuntu use by default for compiling packages ?06:53
toxicfum1bob2: what should my source type be? I'm on an Intel pro wireless 2200(ipw2200) which uses the ndiswrapper drivers i guess06:53
Crono5788Apparentley06:53
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Crono5788I had to go back into a Linux Live-CD to make the NTFS boot again06:54
Crono5788And then I just gave up06:54
adeleonquit06:54
Crono5788Until now, got a new HD06:54
Crono5788Whole process is a lot easier06:54
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mindspingrub or lilo?06:54
nerngrub06:55
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destinyfuoco um, apt-cache search gcc?06:55
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destinyfuoco also, sudo apt-get install build-essential06:56
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fuocodestiny: i'm asking here, because i'm not currently running ubuntu here06:56
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danko1234563.4 maybe, bob2?06:57
toxicfum1bob2: you around?06:57
Crono5788I tried sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx again, didn't work :(06:57
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Crono5788Also, how do I get out of man pages?06:58
Crono5788:X06:58
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Fator_DeeCrono5788: q06:58
mindspintype q06:58
Crono5788Word06:58
yahalommy gnome doesnt always log in. it hangs sometimes, any ideas? when shutting down it cant find init.d/rc any connection06:58
yahalom?06:58
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gnrfanIs this the right place to ask about a problem I'm having remastering the Ubuntu Hoary Live CD?06:59
Fator_DeeCrono5788: are you using hoary and are you sure your repositories are correct?06:59
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Crono5788Factor_Dee, yes and no07:00
Fator_DeeCrono5788: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to www.pastebin.com07:00
JackHannais there a way to right click using an ibook?07:00
syndwhat folder are the icons in by default?07:00
gnrfanI'm following the guidelnes at the ubuntu wiki but keep getting the "Non-Ubuntu CD-ROM was detected" red screen at Debian Installer when I try my ISO with VMware07:00
syndJackHanna, you have to have a two button mouse to right click, i believe07:01
JackHannaand my ibooks trackpad seems "twitchy" I've turned down sensitivity all the way but it's still jittery07:01
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JackHannasynd, ya.. I figured but wondered if there was a modifyer key you can hold down like in osX to right click07:01
syndJackHanna, i know that you can hold ctrl while you click in OS X but not sure if you can do that in ubuntu07:01
danko123456yes, f1207:02
syndJackHanna, have you cleaned your trackpad?07:02
danko123456JackHanna: .07:02
JackHannaI'll look around.. just wondering if someone had a quick answer07:02
danko123456f1207:02
JackHannaoh07:02
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JackHannacan you map that to <ctrl>click=right click07:02
destinydunno.07:02
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Crono5788Factor_Dee: http://pastebin.com/29228207:03
gnrfanAny hints on why I might be getting the "Non-Ubuntu CD-ROM was detected" error in my remastered Hoary Live iso?07:03
raDeonHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA REMASTERED HOARY07:03
syndraDeon, eh?07:03
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EircBremastered?07:03
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syndwhat folder are the icons in by default?07:03
gnrfanraDeon: what's the funny part? :)07:03
danko123456you thought that was kinda funny, hey?07:03
syndnern, murray, ky?07:04
nernsynd: yep07:04
to0omhello! i've got the following problem: i use ubuntu hoary on a laptop (compaq nx700), and i'm trying to use x.org with dualhead... i've already configured the xorg.conf with xinerama, and the second external monitor switches on when i restart x, but i just see stripes on this screen! on my laptop-screen everything's ok, but the external monitor just shows a white square instead of the mouse cursor...07:04
raDeonhoary, hehe07:04
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Fator_DeeCrono5788: remove the # <-- comments from the repository lines :-|07:04
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syndnern, lex, ky here07:04
nernsynd: nice07:04
Crono5788Factor_Dee, my 2nd day on Linux07:04
Crono5788:X07:04
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hoovernjUbuntu wouldn't detect my ''15 Dell LCD monitor. I Don't know what to do.07:05
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hoovernjIt was right after an install07:05
Fator_DeeCrono5788: http://pastebin.com/292285 that's how it should be07:05
Fator_DeeCrono5788: but it learly says to uncomment the lines :-/07:05
Fator_Dee*clearly07:05
nernhmm i dont have any experience with lcds in linux07:05
Crono5788I didn't even check07:06
hoovernjmy monitor flashes to an internal message that says "Out of Range"07:06
Crono5788Until you told me too07:06
Crono5788*to07:06
Crono5788Why wouldn't they just come uncommented, though?07:06
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sobersabrehas anybody seen the novell movie "why to move to linux?"07:06
syndwhat folder are the icons in by default? anyone know?07:06
hoovernjThe strange thing is that ubuntu worked on this same monitor for the 4.x release07:07
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mindspinCrono, thats the difference07:07
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syndhoovernj, your Hz is out of range07:07
mindspinin win everything is enabled by default07:07
syndhoovernj, is there any way you can reset your monitgor?07:07
Fator_Deehoovernj: reconfigure xserver-xorg07:07
Gus_hello07:07
mindspinkinux should be the ozer way around07:07
RytmisAm I supposed to have a "sit0" interface?07:07
hoovernjsynd: let me check07:07
mindspinaaaargh07:07
RytmisIsn't that ipv6 stuff?07:08
syndwhat folder are the icons in by default? anyone know?07:08
Fator_Deehoovernj: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and make sure the specs are so that your monitor can handle them07:08
Gus_anyone to help me with installing CEDEGA ? i have an error that no tutorial reports...07:08
hoovernjI can't even login07:08
hoovernjso...07:08
to0omGus_, get the .deb-file07:08
syndhoovernj, do you have another monitor to try?07:09
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hoovernjno07:09
Fator_Deehoovernj: can you ssh to it?07:09
Gus_to0om, the .deb file is not free, and unauthorized, rigt ?07:09
to0omyeah, could be :)07:09
syndhoovernj, try unplugging the monitor and replugging it a few times. i had the same problem with a monitor and my ibook and that fixed it07:09
Gus_otherwise, yes, i will definitely do that instead of fighting with the CVS-thing...07:09
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hoovernjsynd: thanks I'll try that07:09
to0omsynd, ever heard about my problem before?07:10
to0omthat one with the stripes07:10
Crono5788There it goes07:10
syndto0om, whats that?07:10
Crono5788Ty Factor_Dee07:10
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to0omwhen i configure x with xinerama, it shows just stripes on the external monitor07:11
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pfphmmh.... how common is it for nautilus to freeze/crash?07:11
to0omi've got a radeon mobility07:11
raDeonWHO CALLS FOR ME!????07:11
raDeonWHO???07:11
raDeonSPEAK UP NOW!07:11
syndraDeon, chill your bitchass out07:11
b0urn3quick question...i just installed bittornado using apt-get install....how do i use it now that it's installed?07:11
to0omsorry raDeon ;)07:11
syndto0om, hmm.07:11
raDeonoh all righties :)07:11
AmaranthraDeon: Change your nick and you don't have problems. :)07:11
Fator_DeeCrono5788: no prob, and leave the c out of my nick ;-)07:12
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syndto0om, ive never tried desktop spanning with linux and a laptop.. although i do it with my iBook07:12
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raDeonlol factor07:12
AmaranthI love my Radeon card.07:12
AmaranthMy Radeon card is so awesome.07:12
Amaranth;)07:12
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raDeonradeons suck ass07:12
Crono5788Ah, sorry x.x07:13
Crono5788That explains why tab didn't wor07:13
Crono5788k07:13
raDeoncrono u a moron07:13
AmaranthraDeon: Why are you named after them then?07:13
raDeonhahah07:13
Gus_anyone to help me with installing CEDEGA ? i have an error that no tutorial reports...07:13
AmaranthraDeon: That's not nice.07:13
danko123456Amaranth: whats with you and making ppl change nicks today?07:13
raDeonAmaranth, im not the one to ask about that, you need to speak to my parents07:13
Fator_DeeAmaranth: maybe he's just limber07:13
danko123456crono, raDeon is joking...07:13
Amaranthdanko123456: Not making him change it, just saying.07:13
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raDeonam i?07:13
danko123456I kno, the other guy too, fucko...07:13
Crono5788Are you?07:13
max_ubuntu_noobihow can i change the permission to make a ntfs part to be accessable by a non-root user?07:13
danko123456that was him prolly, tho...07:13
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danko123456he was.07:13
JackHannasynd are you running ubuntu on your ibook07:13
raDeonapparently i am haha07:13
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syndJackHanna, no07:14
AmaranthYou were. ;)07:14
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AmaranthJust kidding.07:14
JackHannawhat kind of ibook do you have07:14
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raDeonyou wouldn't boot me07:14
raDeonbecause you love me07:14
ToutPT|ppc|frtest de amsg07:14
syndJackHanna, iBook g4 1Ghz07:14
AmaranthNah, I just give people 2 warnings before I kick them. :P07:14
syndJackHanna, 12"07:14
JackHannacool... ya.. no AE support for you07:14
danko123456well, if you turned it up a notch, raDeon I think it would seriously be considered...07:14
AmaranthraDeon: I love the video card though. :D07:14
JackHannamine's a 12" G3-90007:14
raDeonkkakaka07:14
danko123456synd, I have a same one...07:15
raDeongood stuff guys07:15
raDeoncya laters07:15
syndJackHanna, which is exactly why i dont have ubuntu running on it :/07:15
JackHannathey'll get it working man.. hand in there07:15
danko123456Amaranth: so you can get op now on any channel?07:15
Amaranthno they won't07:15
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Amaranthdanko123456: No, just this one and the ones I own.07:15
syndJackHanna, i dont think so07:15
yahalomi cant log in to gnome07:15
yahalomcan someone help plz07:15
JackHannareally, why not07:15
danko123456Amaranth: aha...ok...07:15
yahalomit jsut hangs07:15
Amaranthyahalom: Forget your password?07:15
Amaranthyahalom: Did you install the 2.6.11 kernel?07:15
yahalomAmaranth, no, i type my details and then it just hangs07:16
yahalomAmaranth, nope. and xfce works07:16
Amaranthhmm07:16
yahalomAmaranth, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn07:16
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yahalomAmaranth, mostly doesnt07:16
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AmaranthI've only ever seen this problem with hoary's 2.6.11 and gamin (part of gnome)07:16
yahalomAmaranth, only started 30 minutes ago07:16
yahalomAmaranth, i have gamin i think07:16
yahalomAmaranth, remove it?07:16
Amaranthyahalom: If you want to remove all of gnome, sure. :P07:17
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yahalomAmaranth, so what should i do? i removed gnome-desktop and then reinstalled it and it worked07:17
Amaranthyahalom: mv ~/.gnome2 ~/.gnome2.bak and try again07:17
yahalomAmaranth, as soon as i log out by doing alt + ctrl +backsp then next time i log in it hangs07:17
Amaranthdon't use ctrl-alt-bksp to logout07:18
Fator_Deenot a proper way to logout07:18
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Amaranthnot really logging out, just killing X :P07:18
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asdasdsahey07:19
yahalomAmaranth, yeah but gnome refuses to logout sometimes07:19
asdasdsamy consoles wont start07:19
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asdasdsaif i press alt f1 f2 .... the image from the desktop moves to right07:19
Quest-Mastergah07:19
Quest-MasterCan anyone tell me how to forcibly unmount something?07:19
Quest-MasterIt keeps on saying the device is busy even though I am not using it07:20
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no0ticQuest-Master: control the device file with lsof07:20
AmaranthQuest-Master: If an Uninteruptible process is using it you either have to wait for it to end (could take 24 hours) or restart.07:20
pfpQuest-Master: something _is_ using it, 'sudo fuser -muv /mount/point'07:20
no0ticQuest-Master: somthing like lsof | grep /dev/hdc07:20
AmaranthQuest-Master: I'm guessing you burned a cd with k3b and can't get it out.07:20
CutmanHi, I tried one of your advices, yeasterday, about Ubuntu that couldn locate a regular CD drive, and it didnt work07:21
Quest-MasterAmaranth: nope07:21
max_ubuntu_noobiis there a limitation with non-root users and ntfs reading?07:21
AmaranthQuest-Master: what were you doing with the drive?07:21
Fator_Deemax_ubuntu_noobi: if you make one07:21
CutmanI was told to type: modprobe piix and modprobe ide-generic in the consoel, but nothing happened07:21
Quest-MasterListening to music07:21
Cutman*console07:22
Fator_Deemax_ubuntu_noobi: limitations depend on the configurations you make07:22
destinywhats a really fast gui browser?07:22
destinynot ff...07:22
synddestiny, i know dillo is with DSL07:22
max_ubuntu_noobii chmod 777 and chown ubuntu on /mnt/ntfs but when i mount permission go back to something else07:22
AmaranthQuest-Master: Are you sure the program exited? Check Applications->System Tools->System Monitor07:22
danko123456dillo is a browser?07:22
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synddanko123456, on DSL07:23
yahalomAmaranth, ok still didnt work. i removed gamin and all of gnome, how do i get it back. install nautilus?07:23
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Amaranthdestiny: You basically have 3 choices. Things using gecko (ff, mozilla, epiphany), Konqueror, and Opera.07:23
danko123456whats on DSL mean?07:23
danko123456I have DSL< it ahpens...07:23
Quest-MasterGah07:23
Amaranthyahalom: It'll reinstall gamin. gamin is required for GNOME.07:24
synddanko123456, damn small linux07:24
Quest-MasterAmaranth: something called gam_server is using it apparently07:24
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danko123456ah, there is one in my apt-get...07:24
max_ubuntu_noobidoes the non-root user must belong to a "ntfs" group?07:24
yahalomAmaranth, ah ok. so how do i reinstall gnome?07:24
Quest-MasterAmaranth: the gam_server process won't go away.. neither through System Monitor or killall07:24
danko123456Amaranth: well, I want to use something that is fast to load, cause the comp is slow...07:24
Amaranthyahalom: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop07:24
Quest-Masterdanko123456: Give Kazahakase a try07:24
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yahalomAmaranth, thanx07:24
danko123456synd: ah, I thought you meant digital subscriuption line.07:24
AmaranthQuest-Master: try it with sudo07:24
danko123456Quest-Master: thanks, I will.07:25
synddanko123456, no : )07:25
Quest-MasterAmaranth: done so already.07:25
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synddanko123456, i have a DSL conncection, though07:25
AmaranthQuest-Master: Then it's a kernel thing and/or uninterruptible. You'll have to restart or wait for it to release the cd.07:25
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Cutmanmodprode piix and modprobe ide-generic doesn't work as commands in console07:26
Quest-MasterAmaranth: it's a mounted FAT32 Windows partition.07:26
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Amaranthoh07:26
destinyso, this dillo thing, man, Ill go check it out...07:26
pfpCutman: prefix them with sudo07:26
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synddestiny, its available in synaptic07:26
Amaranthwhy do you need to unmount it then?07:26
Quest-MasterAmaranth: partitioning stuff.07:26
Cutmanpfp: ?07:26
Quest-MasterAmaranth: I'll use a LiveCD if this doesn't work out though07:26
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pfpCutman: sudo modprobe piix07:27
CutmanOk07:27
destinyya, I know, I told you I have it in my apt-get...07:27
AmaranthQuest-Master: gam_server is a part of gamin :)07:27
CutmanI'm a bit new to Linux07:27
AmaranthQuest-Master: Some program is telling gamin to watch a directory on that drive for changes.07:27
destinyIm danko, btw, for all that did not know...just on a diff comp, on which I am doing this install thing.07:27
Johnnyfavwhich wine tools do I download?07:27
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OConnorhello07:28
AmaranthQuest-Master: skill it?07:28
xukuncan anybody give me a good hoary sources.list universe/multiverse07:28
pfpback in warty, famd had a nasty habit of grabbing onto my CD's  / net mounts07:28
synddestiny, oh, ok07:28
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darkauditxukun: it's already in the stock sources.list... just commented out07:28
destinyxukun you can use www.mts.net/~danb/sources.list07:29
pfprestarting famd helped, but surprisingly nautilus lost track of changes in the fs after that07:29
Fator_Deexukun: http://pastebin.com/292285 or that07:29
synddestiny, im currently running Dillo in xfce, it runs great. i jsut recently discovered it using DSL07:29
darkauditjust uncomment the universe lines and add multiverse to the end07:29
nubbexukun, ubuntuguide.org?07:29
destinysynd hopefully it loads faster than epiphany, epiphany was the slowest so far.\07:29
Fator_DeeI'm going to test dillo too :-p07:29
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synddestiny, what are you running on07:30
Fator_Deecan you import bookmarks from firefox to it?07:30
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xukunthanks guys07:30
destinysynd, nice!!07:30
Fator_Deeoooh, this is snappy O.o07:30
Quest-MasterAmaranth: That got rid of it :)07:30
destinyjust a sec, Ill post my specs to pastebin07:30
AmaranthQuest-Master: I am a Google God. :)07:31
destinyill break a plate in the meantime, too.07:31
AmaranthQuest-Master: searched for gam_server, first entry that was from ubuntu forums had the answer07:31
destinyalindeman, no, well linch you;)07:31
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Amaranthhad to get that in before services went down07:32
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destinysynd, dillo is really fast, but, ugly a bit, even the way it parses html is weird.07:33
synddestiny, is dillo what you had in mind?07:33
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Th4they folks just DL'd and trying the LiveCd. liking it quite a bit so far07:33
destinysynd, when I said, synd nice, yeah...07:33
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Fator_Deedestiny: can you import bookmarks to dillo?07:33
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drzolohey guys, what type of distribution is ubuntu?07:33
destinyFator_Dee dunno, I dont use bookmarks, I have a home page with links...07:33
destinydrzolo that type, you know...07:33
Fator_Deedestiny: well, I don't >_<07:34
destinydrzolo if your question was a multiple choice one, maybe I would answer.07:34
drzolodecklin, lol, what are the main features?07:34
destinyFator_Dee well, get one, or find out if you can import.07:34
destinyit is a debian based...07:34
drzolodecklin, u could answer "tRUE" for the above question, but it wouldn really help07:34
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destinywww.ubuntulinux.org / ubuntulinux.com will know more07:34
synddestiny, dillo was written to be part of DSL, which is a < 50mb OS. its *very* dumbed down07:35
Einhoernchenhey. does anybody of you know how to work with webmin?07:35
drzoloaight, thank you, i ll check it out07:35
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destinysynd, well, we'll see how it wokrs.07:35
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synddestiny, you should try DSL on that slower computer.. youd be surprised07:35
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yahalomAmaranth, will the reinstall fix my hanging issue?07:35
Amaranthyahalom: maybe, doubtful07:35
destinysynd, no I shouldnt, cause...I want it for destiny, she is a girl, and I am sure she would not like some weird linux...07:35
yahalomAmaranth, doubtful, so how do i find out what it is? i only got it today07:36
yahalomAmaranth, it was workign great07:36
Amaranthyahalom: you're not on breezy, are you?07:36
synddestiny, it's not weird07:36
yahalomAmaranth, not that i know of. i used the repos from ubuntuguide07:36
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Amarantharg07:36
Amaranthrepos from ubuntuguide are messed up07:37
Th4tBa5t4rdso, if Ubuntu is Debian base, I can use Apt-get, correct?07:37
Fackamatoanyone know a webcam program that takes a pic at a certain interval?07:37
destinysynd, no, has a nice itnerface?07:37
syndTh4tBa5t4rd, yes07:37
Th4tBa5t4rddanke07:37
Th4tBa5t4rdstill trying to figure this out07:37
tswFackamato: webcamd07:37
Fackamatotsw: doesn't owrk07:37
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destinyhttp://pastebin.com/29229507:37
Fackamatoit uses "Television" as input argument07:37
yahalomAmaranth, so which ones should i use. i had forgotten to change to the latest repos. so i changed them yesterday07:37
destinythats the lshw on this comp...07:37
Fackamatoand tells me to use " blabla" instead07:37
Fackamatoand I change to blabla07:37
synddestiny, http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/07:38
tswFackamato: check /home/user/.webcamrc07:38
Fackamatoand it still complains about the input argument07:38
raDeonknai07:38
raDeonlamno07:38
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Fackamatotsw: yup, that's where the settings are07:38
Fackamatoand they're correct07:38
destinysynd, I guess Ill check it out...07:38
destinyaltho I already dont like their browser:)07:38
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tswFackamato: Ill test it once I get this ov511 decompressor working :)07:39
synddestiny, well in order for a browser to be "snappy" it has to be liek that07:39
synddestiny, or else, youre stuck with firefox and yada yada. DSL comes with a very dumbed down version of Firefox as well07:39
Amaranthyahalom: http://rafb.net/paste/results/hVI6A325.html07:39
destinysynd yeah, I mean, I dont mind it kinda, how do you even get to the properties of the browser?07:39
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Amaranthyahalom: but i doubt that'll help, you've probably already broken something07:39
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yahalomAmaranth, so reinstall ubuntu?07:40
Amaranthyahalom: i guess07:41
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destinyyahalom, what your gnome sometimes dont login?07:41
yahalom:( :( :(\07:41
destinyAmaranth why are you mean??07:41
yahalomdestiny, yes07:41
Amaranthdestiny: i'm not07:41
yahalomdestiny, on and off07:41
yahalomdestiny, sometimes yes sometimes no07:41
snowsealanyone know how to get the volume key-combination working on my keyboard? brightness combo works well.07:41
destinyyahalom, well, use something else, or wait till someone not mean comes...07:41
syndAmaranth is not mean07:41
syndAmaranth is a realist07:42
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DanielHolthhello07:42
Amaranthheh07:42
destinysure he is...why would anyone recommend a reinstall of a linux?07:42
yahalomdestiny, ???07:42
Amaranthsynd: that's my blog's name ;)07:42
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syndAmaranth, really? haha. had no idea07:42
yahalomdestiny, i didnt get the impression he was being mean, but rather that i'm screwed07:42
DanielHolthI lost my default gnome desktop and then could not get it back, even after a. deleting all the .gnome* directories, and b. copying the originals from a working user's directory.07:42
Amaranthsynd: RealistAnew :D07:42
DanielHolthit served as a subtle reminder that Gnome Sucks.07:42
destinyyahalom I know, but, I just meant, not mean...07:42
syndhaha.07:43
destinylike, why recommend that...07:43
Amaranthhey, cool07:43
DanielHolthunfortunately kde hurts my eyes.07:43
synddestiny, are you running gnome on this female's computer?07:43
AmaranthI'm a "Community Developer" on the forums07:43
nernjust use xfce then or fluxbox ;)07:43
destinyI mean, I font think anyone should ever reinstall, really...07:43
destinyalmost.07:43
yahalomdestiny, cos i'm screwed?07:43
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snowsealanyone know how to get the volume key-combination working on my keyboard? brightness combo works well..07:43
destinynern ?07:43
yahalomnern, i use xfce, my wife likes gnome07:43
destinyfor yahalom?07:43
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destinywell, tell her to grow up already:) jj...07:44
awb4422any wordpress users in here the use a desktop client besides blogtk?07:44
destinynot sure, I mean, you could reintsall, I dont think that is a very linux thing to do, tho...07:44
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yahalomdestiny, man gnome is cool for most ppl07:44
yahalomdestiny, it isnts07:44
Cutmanpfp: I tried your advice, but it didn't work07:44
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Einhoernchenlol07:44
yahalomdestiny, going to see if i got gnome back07:44
root____I'm using ubuntu in conjunction with a shuttle sn25p with the envy24 audio chipset (via vinyl) and I cannot get sound to work at all.  Shw atmodules etc do I need to install etc to get it to work (audio)07:44
yahalombrb07:44
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Einhoernchensomebody with root account07:44
Einhoernchenlmao07:44
Einhoernchen-07:44
root____:)07:45
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Fator_Deeyou should get out of root login :-p07:45
destinynot only sombody, but somebody to who's nick 4 _ had to be added, cause there are others...:)07:45
Einhoernchenhe should really07:45
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root____i'm not really actually root it just says that07:45
destinywho was I talking with?07:45
destinyI cant remember the nick, and Im in bitchx.07:45
Fackamatothe imlib2 version in ubuntu07:46
Einhoernchenthats a big fault desrt ;)07:46
Fackamatodoesn't seem to support jpeg or png07:46
anto9usdestiny: yahalom who's brb07:46
CutmanI got this message: /bin/sh: sudo: not found07:46
destinyno, someone else.07:46
destinyah, synd07:46
FackamatocamE: Error saving image /tmp/webcam.jpg - No Imlib2 loader for that file formatcamE: Error saving image /opt/images/webcam/webcam_2005-05-30_194430.jpg - No Imlib2 loader for that file formatcamE: Error saving image /opt/images/webcam/thumbnails/webcam_2005-05-30_194430.jpg - No Imlib2 loader for that file formatcamE: *** uploading via ftp07:46
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synddestiny, yes?07:46
destinysynd, no I dont use gnome here, cause its painfully slow, right now I am in tty207:46
destinybut, in tty7 I have xfce running, why?07:46
Cutman*/bin/sg:sudo: not found07:47
destinythanks, anto9us .07:47
destinyCutman sorry, what did you do?07:47
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nernhow would you go about switching gnomes window manager from metacity to something else07:47
synddestiny, you really ought to try dsl07:48
CutmanI typed: sudo modprobe piix in the console during Ubuntu installation07:48
synddestiny, i saw your comp specs on pastebin07:48
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CutmanI'm trying to get it to find my CD rom07:48
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destinysynd, dunno, maybe, Ill see how this one goes with destiny.07:49
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synddestiny, im running xfce4 on a P3 600Mhz, 128MB, 10GB and it runs fine07:49
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nernyeah xfce is really lightweight07:49
destinyyeah, me too, similar...I need more ram in this comp, thats all.07:49
tswI dont get it. how can I tell ov511 module to use ovcamchip as decoder?07:49
CutmanYesterday i was told to type: modprobe piix and modprobe ide-generic in console07:49
destinyI should go get a stick now, its prolly like 20$07:49
synddestiny, but DSL is quite nice for lower spec'd comps. its knoppix and debian based07:49
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Brami have ubuntu on my hda1, grub is installed in hda0 (MBR), now i want to install Windows (for recording music) on hda2, but then my MBR is overwritten and i can't start ubuntu up07:50
Bramhow do i solve that ?07:50
destinysynd, I dont wanna put a distro I dont know how to use myself on someone elses computer that I am gonna be maintaining///07:50
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synddestiny, you dont have to put it on there07:50
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synddestiny, its fully functional as a Live CD07:50
destinythis is that comp, my comp woprks great, its a new one...07:51
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destinyoh, its a live cd deal?07:51
computerguy867if i have two computers one named bob and the other named jim and they are both behind a router using ssh bob or ssh jim should work right?07:51
synddestiny, many people put it on a 128MB flash drive.07:51
destinyman, thats too advanced, Ill look into it later when I seee how this works.07:51
destinythanks.07:51
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Shinmawhat'07:51
Shinmas breezy?07:51
synddestiny, the OS and all the apps that come with it is less than 50Mb07:52
nernthe new ubuntu still in development07:52
CutmanWhy doesn't Ubuntu support PATA drives?07:52
nernboot07:52
Shinmaah07:52
lampshadecomputerguy867:  No07:52
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root____i'm not really actually root it just says that07:53
root____I'm using ubuntu in conjunction with a shuttle sn25p with the envy24 audio chipset (via vinyl) and I cannot get sound to work at all.  Shw atmodules etc do I need to install etc to get it to work (audio)07:53
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synddamn its such a nice day here07:53
lampshadecomputerguy867:  Without a nameserver or something to tell them what name matches to what IP they have no idea who bob and jim are. If you setup a little nameserver it would work, or if you modded your /etc/hosts file and added their IP with the name you want like bob, that'd work07:53
destinywarty hoary breezy07:53
syndi need to fire up the grill07:53
ShinmaI'd like some ... straight shooting ... if possible, how bugged is ubuntu, say in comparison to FC307:53
Shuddertrixroot____: actually, you are root unless you set your ircuser and ident to root also.07:53
syndubuntu blows FC3 out of the water.07:53
lampshadeShinma:  I have had Ubuntu install where FC3 hasn't :(07:54
syndShinma, Hoary is stable07:54
CutmanDoes Ubuntu support USB CD drives?07:54
syndCutman, yes07:54
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Shinmaah, lampshade, but was it better than FC3 when you had them both installed? hhe07:54
destinyI mean, straight shooting fc3 vs ubuntu on #ubuntu...07:54
Cutmansynd: Can I install from one?07:54
yahalomAmaranth, no idea of how i can fix it. i tried everything i think.07:54
SysFailcan anybody PLEASE point me to the program that makes gtk apps look like all the kde apps?07:54
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syndCutman, not sure.07:54
CutmanOk07:54
Einhoernchenttyl guys07:55
AmaranthSysFail: gtk-qt engine07:55
computerguy867lampshade, what do i do to /etc/hosts?07:55
lampshadeShinma:  I dunno.  I always have high hopes for the Fedora cores and then end up crawling back to a debian based distro07:55
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CutmanCause I can't install from my PATA drive07:55
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ShuddertrixSysFail: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=971407:55
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CutmanUbuntu can't find the drive07:55
Shinmais ubuntu pretty quick about getting up to date software in releases/updates07:55
syndShinma, yes07:55
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AmaranthShinma: after they release they don't update07:56
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ShinmaAmaranth, ?07:56
JohnnyfavI'm runing wine and I go to type in a active x box and it wont let me type in the box.....what do I do?07:56
AmaranthShinma: so they are very up to date on the day of release07:56
lampshadecomputerguy867:  you just match it up.  Like if you are on box jim mod /etc/hosts so that there is a line with Bob's ip and bob  like--> 192.168.1.105 bob07:56
Amaranthbut then if you want new stuff you have to wait for the next release07:56
SysFailit won't come up in synaptic for some reason07:56
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computerguy867ok07:56
lampshadeI think that should work, but I haven't messed with that kinda stuff in a while07:56
ShuddertrixSysFail: i pasted the link07:56
computerguy867cool thanks lampshade07:56
SysFailgot it man07:56
SysFailthanks07:56
destinyAmaranth who is like that?07:56
SysFailwonder why it isnt in synaptic??07:57
syndhey nern you goto murray state?07:57
nernsynd: yes i do07:57
Amaranthdestiny: like what?07:57
pfpCutman: oh, so you're just installing07:57
CutmanGah...why does Dell list the PATA drive up as IDE in the manual, when the BIOS tells it different?07:57
destinythe  updates thing...07:57
syndnern, goto HS in ky as well?07:57
destinyubuntu slow for updates?07:57
destinyhave to wait till next releaase?07:57
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pfpCutman: maybe you should open the case and see what's really inside :)07:58
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zAo^can anyone help me with libuu.so.0? donno in what package it is. Thanks :)07:58
nernubuntu makes a release every six months07:58
Cutmanpfp: I've done that07:58
destinyyoure just totally impatient, it seems to me.... the cycle is 6 months, and you can get bacports, and breezy repos, and what not...... if that is what you were saying, that ubuntu has ew packages only at release.07:58
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CutmanIt looks like a regular IDE connector to me07:59
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pfpCutman: weird... ubuntu's installation has fuond my PATA drives w/o problem07:59
gnrfanQuest-Master, Amaranth: any hint on why my remastered Hoary ISO renders "Non-Ubuntu CD-ROM was detected"? I've followed all the steps here: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo and regenerated the md5sum.txti07:59
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CutmanThe manual names it PRI IDE07:59
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Cutmanpfp: Do you hava a CD or DVD drive?07:59
Amaranthgnrfan: I've never made a LiveCD before.08:00
gnrfanAmaranth: ok08:00
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syndAmaranth, liveCDs seem pointless08:00
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Amaranthsynd: i got people hooked on ubuntu with them08:00
pfpCutman: both, on different computers08:00
CutmanOk08:00
CutmanMy drive is an: NEC ND-2100A DVD+RW drive08:01
toxicfum1can someone here help me try to get kismet to run?08:01
syndAmaranth, ah well yeah..08:01
littlewormhow do i make the internet connection work on a windows neighbor?08:01
nernyeah i dont get what the whole liveCD rage is all about08:01
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littlewormin the network08:01
Amaranthsynd: great for system recovery too, although i'd rather use a livecd designed for system recovery for that08:01
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Quest-Mastergnrfan: No idea, sorry08:01
CutmanMaybe it doesn't support DVD+RW drives?08:02
yahalomcan nobody help me with gnome issue, non of u having login issues?08:02
pfpCutman: so you dont have ubuntu installed anywhere yet?08:02
CutmanNo08:02
pfpCutman: they should work as normal CD-ROM drives08:02
CutmanOk08:02
nerni have a dvd+rw drive and ubuntu supports it fine08:02
hoovernjThanks for the help with the Dell LCD monitor. It works perfectly now.08:02
awb4422any wordpress users in here the use a desktop client besides blogtk?08:02
syndhoovernj, how did you get it to work?08:02
CutmanI've tride the live CD, but that was on another computer08:03
Cutman*tried08:03
littlewormhow do i make the internet connection work in my network (the other pc has windows)?08:03
hoovernjsynd: it was xserv just like you said08:03
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syndhoovernj, i see08:03
hoovernji put the wrong resolution when installing08:03
CutmanHmmmm.....maybe I'll just buy a regular CD-Drive08:03
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CutmanI have one in my other computer08:04
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pfpCutman: you could try running 'dmesg' in the installer and see if there's any sign of your drive08:04
littlewormhow do i make the internet connection work in my network? (the other pc has windows)08:04
CutmanOk08:04
danko123456Kazahakase08:04
Cutmani'll try it out08:04
danko123456sorry08:05
Einhoernchenlittleworm, you've to activate windows internet connection sharing08:05
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CutmanI'll come back to let you know if it worked08:05
pfpCutman: also, 'modprobe ide-cd'08:05
Belial_hi i need some assistance setting up a Linksys EG1032 NIC08:05
toxicfumecan someone here help me try to get kismet to run?08:05
Cutmanok08:05
Cutmanin console?08:05
pfpafter that, see if dmesg has anything new to say08:05
littlewormthe ubuntu pc has the internet08:05
Einhoernchenahh08:05
pfpCutman: yes08:05
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CutmanOk08:05
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littlewormEinhoernchen, do you know what should i do?08:06
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robert_Hwhat's BREEZY?08:07
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syndrobert_H, the ubuntu development08:07
zenroxbranch08:07
syndrobert_H, thats still in development*08:07
robert_Hok thanks08:08
littlewormEinhoernchen, do you know what should i do?08:08
lampshadeMy googling for an open mail relay list is coming up with surprisingly nothing ;(!08:09
HandyMickyJust a quickie. How happy will Ubuntu be on a Pentium1-200, 160Mb Ram, 2.5GB hdd?08:09
Fackamatohttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=192901#post19290108:10
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lampshadeHandyMicky:  I ran it on a 300 mhz with 32mb ram once.  X was slow but the rest was pretty alright.  Web browsing was fine08:10
yahalomhow does it make any sense that my gnome worked like a charm 30 minutes ago and now dead?08:10
EircBdefine dead08:11
lampshadeyahalom:  did you break it?08:11
yahalomlampshade, i wouldnt know how08:11
Gus_anyone knows hot to make the Fn keys work on a laptop (sony vaio) ?08:11
yahalomlampshade, didnt do any upgrades today08:11
lampshadeyahalom:  what's wrong with it?  What does it do or doesn't do?08:11
HandyMickythanks lampshade - how about using as Router?08:11
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chrissturmhmm, breezy stopped automounting my usb drives. what can be the reason? (except from me being stupid and using breezy:)08:11
yahalomlamont, it wont log in08:11
yahalomlamont, it just hangs there08:11
KimppaHi. I have internet connection through a proxy, so how configure ubuntu so that when I try to establish an ssh-connection, it uses the proxy?08:12
yahalomlamont, brown bg and mouse pointer08:12
yahalomsr08:12
yahalomlampshade,08:12
yahalomlampshade,  brown bg and mouse pointer08:12
lampshadeHandyMicky:  I would think it would be ok for that.  the 300 could web browse so  I'd assume just routing packets would be ok.  You can install just the base with no extras and that would make the system nice and tiny08:12
yahalomlampshade,  it just hangs there  it wont log in08:12
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lampshadeyahalom:  hmmmm,  try ctrl+alt+backspace yet?  did that do anything?08:13
HandyMickyJust grab the install ISO, or is there a reduced package ISO somewhere?08:13
robert_Hhum, first visit here, I have a few problems with my recently installed ubuntu 5.04...08:13
Cutmanpfp: All PCI controllers where in use08:13
Gus_no one for helping about configuring the laptop Fn keys ?08:13
yahalomlampshade, back to gdm08:13
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Cutmanpfp: But sudo modprobe ide-CD didn't work08:14
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lampshadeyahalom:  Maybe something weird just got corrupted.  If you still can't login, try  a different user.  You can press F3  get to a console, log in there and then create a new user.  Then I would try Gnome again with that user08:15
chrissturmis there a way to convert a vfat drive to a xfs or jfs drive? or even ext3?08:15
yahalomlampshade, doesnt work for any user08:15
lampshadeyahalom:  yikes08:15
lampshadeyahalom:  Even a new one?08:15
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mendozaHi, I'd like to remove some of my firefox search plugins, but the folder is not in my /home/user/.mozilla/firefox, anyone knows where I can find it?08:15
yahalomlampshade, i havent been able to create new users for about 2 weeks now08:16
Shuddertrixchrissturm: to your last question, you being stupid and using breezy. A real answer would probably be the kernel breezy uses.. try a different one ;)08:16
lampshadeyahalom:  Even from the console?  By pressing F3 can you log on there?08:16
lampshadeerr ctrl+alt+F308:16
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chrissturmshuddertrix: ok, i will reboot with the hoary kernel then. thx08:16
yahalomlampshade, no08:17
CutmanI think I'll try another drive08:17
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lampshadeyahalom:  Well what's it do when you try to logon to the straight console?  ANy errors or anything to go off of?08:17
robert_HI can't get my via rhine II integrated network card to work... anyone had the same problem?08:17
nerni love the hoary kernel08:17
nernit boots so quick08:17
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yahalomlampshade, i need to see08:18
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Cutmanpfp: I have an Plextor CD-RW drive at home, do you think it will work?08:19
mendozasoooo? no one knows (firefox question)? :(08:19
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Cutman*a08:19
lampshademendoza:  what searchs?08:19
tg_I want to chang the permission to a fat32 partition where my mail data resides. from root to user. "chmod 777 <dir>" is not changing any thing. i have he same permission as before. what i do??08:19
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lampshademendoza:  like the built in typing of google keyword for it to google that?  Or?08:19
mendozathe search engines at the up right corner of firefox window08:19
JohnnyfavI'm runing wine and I go to type in a active x box and it wont let me type in the box.....what do I do?08:20
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pfpCutman: sry was out on the phone08:21
mendozagoogle, amazon, or ebay for example08:21
CutmanOk08:21
tg_I want to chang the permission to a fat32 partition where my mail data resides. from root to user. "chmod 777 <dir>" is not changing any thing. i have he same permission as before. what i do??08:21
pfpCutman: another drive could be worth the try, since you have one08:21
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CutmanOk08:21
Cal[] Johnhow to i compile python source code (I'm trying to do BitTornado)?08:21
Shinmaanyone here use an ATI Radeon X800 LE08:21
Shinma?08:21
pfpbtw it's ide-cd not ide-CD08:21
mendozathey usually are in /home/user/.mozilla/firefox or </home/user/.mozilla08:21
robert_Hno sound, no network even if hardware is detected, modules seem to be there... help would be grateful08:21
sysrqtg_: you need to use the uid=youruserid mount option, vfat doesn't have file attributes like ext*08:22
Cutmanpfp: I know08:22
pfpach, ok08:22
CutmanHust a typo08:22
Cutman*Just08:22
pfpCutman: hdb: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive08:22
raDeonWHO CALLED FOR ME08:22
dementtedhello08:22
raDeonWHO??08:22
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raDeonSPEAK UP08:22
Shinma:P08:23
Shinmadont suppose you use a Radeon X800 LE08:23
dementtedheh08:23
raDeonShinma, hell no08:23
ShuddertrixraDeon: How about changing your name08:23
Cutmanpfp: should i type that in console?08:23
pfpCutman: that's what my dmesg says about an dvd-+rw drive08:23
tg_sysrq: thanx08:23
CutmanOk08:23
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thehow is this08:23
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lampshademendoza:  hmmmmmmm, yeah, the docs just say the "installation directory" so I've bet they just got moved somewhere random or something08:23
dementtednice nick dude08:23
CutmanI couldn't find my drive in dmesg08:23
theWHO CALLED ME08:23
dementtedthe: I want it08:24
CutmanThe text scrolled to fast08:24
pfpyou should see something similar, beginnig with hda / hdb / hdc ...08:24
theyou can have radeon08:24
bpuccioahh, the joys of /ignore08:24
thego on radeon we'll play a game08:24
syndthe, youre a tard08:24
pfpCutman: try 'dmesg | grep hd[a-z] '08:24
Shuddertrixthe: better make sure no one grabbed that nick already08:24
pfpCutman: or 'dmesg | grep -i ide'08:24
mendozalampshade: yes, but that's my prob, can't find them08:25
thetype /nick raDeon08:25
dementtedno08:25
dementtedI'll stick with the tried and trusted dementted08:25
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Cutmanpfp: Ok08:25
yahalomAmaranth, can u give me the link for the good repos again pls?08:25
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thewho called me08:25
CutmanI'll let you know in about a half an hour08:25
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dementtednot I08:25
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pfpok08:26
ikaka08:26
iwho called me08:26
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dementtedthe: WHy do you need to know?08:27
theneed to know what?08:27
dementtedwho called you08:27
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theso i can serve them08:27
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dementtedthe: Any why would you serve them? If they really wanted you, they would probably still be calling08:28
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Belial_hi i need help setting up a Linksys EG1032 NIC on ubuntu08:28
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raDeonno idea what you just said08:28
raDeonBelial_, good luck08:28
yahalomcan i reinstall ubuntu without losing my data?08:28
raDeonBelial_, never heard of anyone getting one of those to work08:28
danko123456man, has anyone ever opened an older HP computer case?? it is the most cluttered thing UI have ever seen...08:28
Belial_raDeon: what?08:28
raDeonBelial_, never heard of anyone getting one of those to work08:28
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Cal[] Johnyahalom: i doubt it08:29
dementtedhmm, are there any drivers for the NIC?08:29
Belial_raDeon: a known problem with the chipset or something?08:29
raDeonBelial_, i believe so08:29
Belial_raDeon: my last NIC didn't work either08:29
danko123456Belial_: he is joking, somewhat, but, he prolly bever did, cause he has not heard a lot of those thing...08:29
yahalomF$^%%^08:29
danko123456backup the data, yahalom.08:29
raDeondanko123456, am i?08:29
Dr_Buddhathis may be a stupid question.... but what is my root password?08:29
danko123456again?08:30
Cal[] Johnyahalom: do you mean, reinstall/reformat?08:30
Belial_danko123456: hey again08:30
danko123456Dr_Buddha: if I knew, Id take over your comptuer right now...08:30
danko123456jj08:30
yahalomreinstall08:30
yahalomi lost gnome08:30
raDeonhe may be joking, but im not08:30
danko123456it is not set by default in ubunrt08:30
yahalomand have no clue how to get it back08:30
Dr_Buddhawell, I've not set a password08:30
danko123456cool, so, use sudo08:30
lampshademendoza: bah, that's really weird  Imma keep lookin they must be around08:30
Dr_Buddhathe installer didn't ask for one08:30
danko123456sudo command, then it asks for your password.08:30
Dr_Buddhaand I can't su08:30
yahalomdanko123456, anyway my dsl could be preventing gnome from loging in?08:30
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danko123456yeah, use sudo08:30
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danko123456yahalom, not sure, Ive had a similar issue like you it went away08:31
nernoh yeah and if any of you want to be able to su all you have to do is run sudo passwd08:31
Dr_Buddhathanks08:31
nernthen you will be to su from then on08:31
Belial_danko123456: so i got to the point where i did modprobe ns83820 and it showed up in lsmod, now what?08:31
sysrqwhy would you need to su?08:31
yahalomdanko123456, just like that?08:31
sysrqsudo -s gives you a shell with root permissions08:31
nernyou wouldnt08:31
danko123456Belial_: not sure, I dunno how to fix your issue.08:31
Belial_danko123456: crimmy around?08:32
danko123456yahalom: yes, it went away08:32
nernunless yer me and picked up a bunch of bad habits08:32
danko123456crimmy, crimsun, not sure.08:32
mendozawhat I do, but I don't know if this due to firefox, looks more like an ubuntu issue08:32
lampshademendoza:  found them08:32
Belial_highlight: crimsun08:32
yahalomdanko123456, how long?08:32
mendozawhere?08:32
Cal[] Johnhow to i compile python source code (I'm trying to do BitTornado)?08:32
lampshadethey are in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/searchplugins/08:32
lampshadeCal[] John:  don't need to just run it08:32
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danko123456yahalom: well, you cant count on that...08:33
Gus_please, can someone help me setting up the Fn keys on my laptop ? i have tried many tutorials but can't get them to work =/08:33
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Cal[] Johnlampshade: huh?08:33
danko123456python is an interpreted language?08:33
Cal[] Johnlampshade: so what do i do with source code?08:33
danko123456Gus_: what comp, just out of curiosity?08:33
mendozaI found these ones, but it is weird because there are none of the ones I installed myself08:33
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Belial_Gus_: in Gnome go to system preferences, hardware/devices or what not,keyboard, and you can set custom key shortcuts08:34
Gus_danko123456, Sony VAIO G-K215B, and i'd like if it was not ONLY out of curiosity =P08:34
lampshadeCal[] John:  yeah  if you have all the like .py files then you can just run those.  like ./btdownloadgui.py or whatever08:34
lampshadeas long as they have executable rights08:34
danko123456I know, Gus_, but I dont know how to do it...08:34
Gus_Belial_, that doesn't work because the system doesn't even see i'm pressing a key08:34
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Gus_danko123456, i guess, i was just kidding, no biggie =)08:34
Cal[] Johnlampshade: really?  there's no need to compile?  :D08:34
Belial_Gus_: uh then ur screwed08:34
dementtedCal[] John: Python is an interpreted language dude.08:35
dementtedlike perl08:35
Gus_Belial_,  i'm not, there are tutorials saying they catch it through the Sonypi driver, but i don't understand how it works08:35
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Belial_Gus_: well then i'm just not skilled enough to be able to help you08:35
biff_how do i know if i'm using alsa or oss?08:35
Gus_the how-tos say "now you have downloaded sonypi, configure it and voila" well, err, i don't know how to configure it, so no voila for me ^^08:35
lampshadeCal[] John:  nope, you should also be able to tell firefox to open .torrent files with btdownloadgui or some similarly named file and then they will auto download and open in firefox08:35
danko123456Gus_: did you notice your model has KGB in it?08:36
lampshadeerr I mean the torrent will auto download and then be opened08:36
Belial_Gus_: if you have specific questions with steps in the tutorial i might be able to help, other than that sorry dude08:36
mendozaanyway thanks for the help lampshade08:36
Gus_danko123456, yeah, i'm a Russian agent undercover, now shush or the NSA'll catch me ^^08:36
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danko123456well, you just said it yourself...08:37
danko123456you burried your own self...08:37
danko123456:-p08:37
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biff_how do i know if i'm using alsa or oss?08:37
Gus_damn, i'm really screwed now, ain't i ? ^^08:37
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danko123456biff_: not sure if you feel like reading this much, tho... http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26567&highlight=alsa+oss .08:38
danko123456a good read, tho.08:38
Gus_so anyone else who knows anything about setting up Fn keys on Sony laptops ? it's a pain not being able to manage the sound...08:38
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leo_What is Fn, anyway?08:38
leo_Er08:38
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goldfishspecial key08:38
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biff_how do i get to that graphic alsa configuration08:38
Gus__F_unction_n_ keys08:38
goldfishbiff_: alsamixer ?08:39
ech0how do i know what kernel version im running?08:39
Crono5788So the Fn key on my keyboard is like a shift/ctrl?08:39
linuksoGus_: apt-cache search sony returns several hits... You might need som kernel modules, but I dont much more than that...08:39
nugeech0: uname -r08:39
ech0thanks08:39
biff_thanks goldfish08:39
goldfishnp08:39
Crono5788When you install packages with Synaptic, where do they go?08:40
Gus_linukso, okay i'll check again, but i think i've done so already... thanks anyway =)08:40
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goldfishCrono5788: they get installed, /usr/bin and stuff.08:41
goldfishCrono5788: try 'locate blah' from a terminal.08:41
Crono5788lol08:41
biff_why won't any noise come out of my speakers will xmms... everything is turned up. when i boot into ubuntu i hear that intro sound fine.08:41
Crono5788Alright, thank08:41
Crono5788a08:41
Crono5788*thanks08:41
goldfishyou will need to 'sudo updatedb' first08:41
Crono5788Okay08:41
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Kartagishey08:43
Crono5788?08:43
AevaDdid anyone use partition magic to create a new partition in a harddrive to install ubunto?08:44
ShuddertrixCrono5788: You can also right-click on a installed package, and click on the "Installed files" tab, to see what it installed.08:44
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cens0redhi08:44
nernso debian sarge is supposed to go stable VERY soon08:44
Kartagiswhat gstreamer plugin do I need to watch AVI files on totem media player08:44
nernyou need to get totem-xine and the w32codecs08:44
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Kartagisgee, thanks :)08:45
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Echelon-Hyahalom, hi!08:45
yahalomEchelon-H, hi08:45
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Crono5788Ty Shuddertrix08:46
Echelon-Hyahalom, sup? wanna help me a bit with openoffice?08:46
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ApeRhi08:46
Kartagisone more thing... how do I stop totem from desyncing audio and video?08:46
yahalomEchelon-H, sure. i'm in need of help myself. whats ur issue?08:46
ApeRwhy ubuntu not support RPM with out use alien command ?08:47
goldfishBecause.08:47
yahalomApeR, cos its no fedora08:47
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Echelon-Hyahalom, I tried to make hebrew support for openoffice so Installed some lang pack, something like l10n-he and I still see hebrew only as squares :\08:47
yahalomApeR, its a debian based distro08:47
goldfishIt is debain baswd distro.08:47
nernbecause its not an rpm based distro08:47
nernexactly08:47
yahalomEchelon-H, openoffice 1 is a bastard08:47
nernbecause its that much better08:47
nern:)08:47
goldfish:)08:47
Echelon-Hyahalom, :O. and if I really need it? Stam, don't bother.08:48
yahalomEchelon-H, do sudo synaptic and search for hebrew, then find open office he or something08:48
ApeRyahalom; but i see rpm command in it !08:48
yahalomEchelon-H, then make sure that u have a hebrew font selected like aharoni08:48
J35U5tux can mosh when i play some system of a down.08:48
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AevaDcan anyone help me create a new partition?08:48
dabaSlonApeR: I have no answer to that.08:48
yahalomApeR, where?08:48
ApeRin ubuntu08:48
yahalomEchelon-H, get me?08:48
DR_K13sod ROCKS08:48
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yahalomEchelon-H, it should do it automatically but it doesn always. openoffice 2 does, but the app itself is all in english08:49
AevaDdementted i have the cd if u want to download it08:49
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Kartagiswow, desyncing is gone when I installed totem-xine08:49
yahalomApeR, not sure what u mean br08:49
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Cutmanpfp: It didn't work08:50
ApeRyahalom; write in the shell rpm command and then press TAB08:50
ApeRlook what is the result08:50
Echelon-Hyahalom, one moment08:51
yahalomApeR, so maybe it works :)08:51
yahalomApeR, i always use alien08:51
DR_K13HUH08:51
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Trackilizerhey guys08:52
Trackilizerneed some advice08:52
Belial_hi i need help setting up Linksys EG1032 on ubuntu08:52
Cutmanpfp: Maybe I'll just go for that new drive08:52
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Trackilizeror rather help08:52
Trackilizermy prob:08:53
yahalomam i the only guys having an issue with gnome or does nobody use gnome anymore?08:53
Trackilizerive used ubunti before and it was the only distro that i was able to connecto to the internet with08:53
Juhazhoary thinks my system clock is in UTC/GMT, even though it's not, where is the setting for this?08:53
Trackilizerthen i treid fedora core 308:53
Gus_what does a green colored file mean when you use "ls" please ?08:53
JuhazGus_, one that has executable bit set08:54
Trackilizerand was amazed at the pakage update thingy the one with the GUI08:54
AevaDwtf my computer has no floppy drive, i never knew that08:54
Trackilizersomething like "sy"08:54
Trackilizeranyway08:54
Gus_Juhaz, ok thanks =)08:54
Trackilizerhow can i get that into ubuntu?08:54
Trackilizeranyone?08:54
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Fator_DeeTrackilizer: synaptic08:55
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Cutmanpfp: Are you there?08:55
Trackilizeryes thats it08:55
Fator_DeeTrackilizer: what about it?08:56
Trackilizerhow do i get it in ubuntu?08:56
Trackilizerlike in fedora core 3?08:56
Trackilizerplease use noob language08:56
Trackilizernever used linux before08:56
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piganybody knows how to open port 6881 for bt in ubuntu?08:56
Trackilizerapart from 2 weeks fedora08:56
Fator_Deepig: do you have a firewall installed?08:57
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Fator_Deedamn08:57
K_Dallasor a router?08:57
Fator_Deehe vanished :-\08:57
K_Dallasyes :) he was a pig afterall ;)08:57
kf4enwI'm having mousepad problems. Software seems to be here, but it doesn't work. Its a new Hoary Hedgehog install on a laptop08:57
Fator_Dee"Like a fart in the Sahara desert."08:57
Trackilizeranyone?08:57
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JuhazTrackilizer, you don't have to do anything, it's installed by default08:58
TrackilizerCOOL!!!08:58
Trackilizerin that case im off to install ubuntu08:58
Trackilizerand where can it be found?08:58
Juhazsystem/administration menu08:58
Trackilizeri have a few other quetions guys08:58
Fator_DeeTrackilizer: www.ubuntulinux.org08:59
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Trackilizerdoes ubuntu support pulg and play for digicams08:59
Trackilizerand can i burn DVDs?08:59
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spaceyTrackilizer, my canon a95 camera works out of the box in ubuntu08:59
transgressTrackilizer: i plug and play with my camera... and i burn dvd's ... a lot.08:59
spaceyburning dvd's works here too09:00
transgressalthough i'd suggest getting k3b for things like burning dvd img's09:00
Triffid_Hunteri use k3b for burning.. it does dvds ;)09:00
Triffid_Hunterhehe09:00
Trackilizerok thanks alot09:00
Trackilizerbye09:00
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Trackilizerand once again thanks alot guys09:00
iceman2KANYONE GOOD A NETWORKING ?09:00
Trackilizeroff to install ubuntu09:00
Trackilizer:)09:00
transgressiceman2K: turn off the caps... and what do you need?09:01
AevaDhow can i create a partion to install ubunto on09:01
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dementtedfdisk and diskdruid?09:01
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transgressAevaD: well you can use partition magic... you can use fdisk... umm... yeah there are other ways i'm not thinking of09:01
transgressyes diskdruid... that's what i was trying to think of.09:01
dementtedI like cfdisk09:01
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transgressyeah cfdisk is cool... i use it when i can09:01
transgressparted also works09:01
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AevaDim trying to use partition magic right now09:01
thesaltydogAevaD, ubuntu does repartitioning during Hoary install.09:02
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iceman2KI need serious help ... transgress i have ubuntu on my system ... set wifes system up with winlinux2003 and need to config the dhcp ... for network and internet ... there a way to do this from a term ?09:02
transgresswinlinux?09:02
transgressiceman2K: ifconfig09:02
transgresswtf is winlinux?09:02
AevaDwin4lin09:02
transgressoh okay09:02
transgressbleh09:03
AevaDright now i use blackbox4win09:03
AevaDbut i want the real thing now09:03
iceman2Ktransgress winlinux is a redhat derivitive .. boots from a win 98 ... slowly moving her to linux ...09:03
transgressalthough booting into gnome and using the gui is by far easier...09:03
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transgressfor those who don't know the ins and outs of ifconfig... but if you only have a terminal... man ifconfig... learn it.  it'll help.09:04
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iceman2Ktransgress ifconfig has her in a loopback ...09:04
transgressiceman2K: man ifconfig09:04
transgressto me you listen not09:05
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iceman2Ktransgress sec .. moving between the two systems ... and thanks for the assist ..09:05
dementted?09:05
kengurhow to change fonts in Xchat?09:05
transgresswell i must go make some OJ, then go hunt more oranges.09:05
transgresskengur: in the preferences09:05
bradhey ive got kind of a noob question, will my usb microphone work with ubuntu?09:05
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transgressit will be quite hard to do a 14 day OJ fast w/o oranges!  so i shall see you all later.09:06
skoopok guys, simple question probably. is there an easy way with apt-get/dpkg to downgrade glibc from 2.3.2 to 2.3.1 when on hoary?09:06
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transgresswhy would you wanna downgrade glibc?09:06
kengurtransgress, doh, it looks so akward i missed it alltogether09:06
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dementtedcyas09:06
rg58smahi09:06
skooptransgress: because cxoffice is incompatible with 2.3.209:06
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mcquaidwhats cxoffice?09:07
transgressskoop: downgrading will break a lot of shit09:07
transgresscrossover office09:07
mcquaidoh crossover09:07
skooptransgress: will it break that much?09:07
transgressumm... yeah probably.09:07
skooptransgress: would it be possible to have them both installed side by side?09:07
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iceman2Ktransgress io is same on my system ... does not list het eht0 settings ..09:08
skoopI guess I'd have to compile it myself, with a --prefix09:08
transgressi suppose you could downgrade to warty...09:08
skooptransgress: I just upgraded to warty with a lot of pain and trouble ;)09:08
transgressiceman2K: you can set them with ifconfig... such as ifconfig eth0 up 192.168.1.4509:08
skoop*to=from09:08
transgressiceman2K: man ifconfig09:08
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transgresswell honestly then... you're probably SOL09:09
iceman2Ktransgress ok my ip on net 192.168.0.100 ... should i set her to 192.168.0.101 ?09:09
transgressskoop: ^09:09
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transgressoh wait you said it's dhcp?09:09
transgressiceman2K: you can probably run ifconfig eth0 up09:09
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transgressand it'll take care of it09:09
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pfpisnt it 'ifup eth0'09:10
lampshadeusually09:10
we2byhow do I set firefox to cache webpages for a week?09:11
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transgresswe2by: you don't... you set it to cache a certain amount of space09:11
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lampshadewe2by:  That's more a firefox question than an Ubuntu Linux question, but you can do it by space, not time that I'm aware of09:12
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Echelon-Hif i have now openoffice1 and I am installing 2, will it update or do I need to delete 1?09:12
jnkyou can have both side by side09:12
lampshadeEchelon-H:  IF you used apt-get it will handle it.09:13
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fdrHello... I have a directory full of jpeg that I'd like to resize to 800x600. I tried with ImageMagick but it's the first time I use it and can't make it work... any hints please?09:13
Echelon-Hlampshade, k, I will09:13
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Echelon-Hanyways, do you recommand having 2 anyway?09:13
lampshadeEchelon-H:  Though I thought that Ubuntu came with 2?09:13
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transgressnah ubuntu comes with like 1.9x09:14
lampshadeoh really?09:14
iceman2Ktransgress i type man ifconfig eth0 up ... brings up a lot of options ... im lost on this a bit ..09:14
transgressyar09:14
transgressumm apparently try ifup eth009:14
lampshadeiceman2K:  ifup eth009:14
transgressiceman2K:09:14
rg58smai have a ploblem with the superior border of all my aplication09:14
iceman2Ktransgress brb09:14
Echelon-Homg, that's a heavy program09:14
rg58smais in the left corner09:14
transgressha OOo 2?09:15
transgressit's made in mostly java09:15
Echelon-Hlampshade, nah09:15
Belial_hi i need help setting up Linksys EG1032 on ubuntu please help09:15
yahalomEchelon-H, beseder/09:15
yahalom?09:15
kengurcan anyone help with xorg.conf?09:15
nernyes09:15
transgresskengur: what do you need?09:15
nernwhats the xorg.conf prob09:15
transgressfrom topic:  Have a question? Just ask!09:16
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transgresswell ima go finally put some clothes on then i'm out of here09:16
iceman2Ktransgress humm failed to find the network ..09:16
kengurtransgress, i need to switch keyboard layouts in xfce, how do i change between 'us' and 'ru'?09:17
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mastertetHi, just install hoary, like that everything is just working :)09:17
transgressiceman2K: is it connected to the network?09:17
skoopI seem to have this problem: http://www.codeweavers.com/support/docs/crossover-standard/troubleshooting#NO-INSTALLED-LIST however they're talking about a very old version of crossover office, and I've got version 3.0.109:17
transgresskengur: umm... got me... probably by reconfiguring X... dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server09:17
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djpcan anyone help me with bluetooth configuration under hoary? i have a sony ericsson k700i mobile and want to use it over bluetooth09:17
mastertetNow, I waana install AfterStep window manager from source, apart of build-essential, what should I apt-get to compile it?09:18
lampshadekengur: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/LocaleConf might help09:18
iceman2Ktransgress yes ... in winblows it goes right on the net ... just configering the dhcp to find the network09:18
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jaspfdr: try something like 'convert --resize 800x600 * '09:18
nernkengur: you should be able to change that easily through one line in xorg.conf09:18
iceman2Ktransgress shows the netcar in the hardware ... so its installed09:18
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nernkengur: Option"XkbLayout""us"09:18
nernchange the us for the ru09:18
krystalinohi. Is there a way to use ubuntu packages in debian ?09:18
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jnkyou can try them...09:19
kengurnern, will i be able to use us still?09:19
krystalinoWhy is ubuntu better than knoppix installed on hd ?09:19
nernkengur: im not sure, i have never actually messed around with different keyboard layouts myself09:20
vince_has anyone succeeded in hybernating their laptop on ubuntu? I have a Compaq Presario 2100, and I do see the option hybernate, but then ubuntu stalls waiting for "wlan0 to become free"... Can anyone offer any advice? Thanks!09:20
fdrjasp: that does the resizing but messes up the filenames...09:20
iceman2Ktransgress ifup eth0 .. can you specify a ip with the command ?09:20
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kengurthanks, i'll try09:20
jnkvince_, try unloading your wireless module before09:20
spanglesontoastanyone know much about getting fglrx working?09:20
jnkkrystalino, ubuntu is a real distro09:21
vince_jnk, I use ndiswrapper; how do I unload it?09:21
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goldfishvince_: man modprobe09:21
jnkvince_, well I don't know but look at the output from "lsmod"09:21
ApeRwhy i can't install rpm in ubuntu by rpm command ?09:21
goldfishmodprobe  -e ndiswrapper, i think09:21
vince_ok09:21
goldfishApeR: ITS A DEBIAN BASED DISTRO09:21
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krystalinommm ... knoppix too, what do you mean jnk ?09:21
fdrjasp: it outputs $name_of_last_file.{1,2,3,....}  for every input file09:21
goldfishvince_: modprobe -r09:22
vince_goldfish, I thought of that but will it start on reboot/resume?09:22
Belial_can someone help me set up a Linksys EG1032 nic in ubuntu PLEASE09:22
jnkkrystalino, well maybe I'm misinformed... do you have a huge repository to add software from with knoppix?09:22
nernAper: rather than downloading the packages why not try searching for them on synaptic and and installing them that way09:22
jnkvince_, yes09:22
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vince_thanks09:22
mcquaidthis is nothing ubuntu specific, just linux related.  when i first used linux a few years back and i'd create other users, i was surprised that other users had read access to other users dirs09:23
ApeRbut rpm command is supported by ubuntu :)09:23
krystalinojnk, you have huge repository of debian09:23
mcquaidhow does one prevent that besides manually changing the file/dir permissions09:23
ChoubakaApeR: not really.09:23
mcquaidwhat i mean is at the actual user creation process09:23
lampshadeApeR:  just use apt unless you really have a reason to use rpm.  As easy as sudo apt-get install programname  most of the time09:23
Choubakayou can install rpm, but using it would be quite insane.09:23
darkauditApeR: if there's a .deb for the package, you're much better off with that09:24
Choubakamcquaid: it's configurable somewhere, definitely.09:24
jnkkrystalino, ah... that's... right :)  I don't know then, how it differs from a debian install...09:24
nernyes09:24
ApeRChoubaka; write in shell rpm and then press TAB ;)09:24
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ApeRcheck it09:24
mcquaidya i know it must be, still, i find the default kinda weird09:24
ChoubakaApeR: so?09:24
krystalinoinstallation of knoppix is 20 min, as with ubuntu. I don't really see the advantage of ubuntu, excuse me ...09:24
ChoubakaApeR: installing packages with rpm is still insane.09:24
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ApeRok09:24
Choubakakrystalino: ubuntu is a _real_ distro09:24
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Choubakakrystalino: it's intended to be installed on the HD09:25
ApeRwhere is i can found CDs for Full packages ?09:25
darkauditkrystalino: ubuntu doesn't do a mix-and-match of repo's like knoppix does. You'll get a much more stable system with Ubuntu09:25
jnkmcquaid, /etc/adduser.conf09:25
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Choubakait has stable repositories, security updates, support, and a community. :)09:25
ApeRi'm download 1 cd for ubuntu 5.409:25
nernubuntu uses xorg and the most up to date kde and gnome packages are in its official repos09:25
nerntheres a couple advantages09:26
krystalinoknoppix isn't intended to, u right but, but installation of knoppix really works great09:26
mcquaidjnk, thx09:26
Choubakakrystalino: so does ubuntu's :|09:26
krystalinois ubuntu only one branch ? (sarge ??09:26
jnkmcquaid, it seems privacy was not a great concern in the hacker community, IIRC RMS used to have his directory world-writable09:26
Choubakaubuntu doesn't have branches like Debian09:26
darkauditubuntu is it's own, but is based on Sid...09:26
ChoubakaOnly Stable and Development.09:26
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jaspfdr, des this work? make a new dir, and run convert from there, so the output of the convert command is saved in the new directory, instead of the source directory.09:27
krystalinoChoubaka, i especially like the auto mounter of hd devices on knoppix, and also all utilities that makes hardware to be recognised without configuration. Is it the same on ubuntu ?09:27
ApeRChoubaka; where i can found cd 2 and 3 etc.. for ubuntu ?09:27
mcquaidah ya thats true09:27
ChoubakaApeR: cd 2? cd 3?09:27
nernaper: there is only one cd09:27
darkauditknoppix takes stuff from stable, testing, and unstable... much more likely to break when updated09:27
lampshadeApeR: there isn't?  I got nothing?09:27
mcquaidthe whole make your password enter kinda thing09:27
ApeRi know but no another cds ?09:28
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lampshadeApeR:  what else do you need?09:28
rg58smay09:28
krystalinodarkaudit, i never had problems on updating knoppix09:28
mcquaidreally interesting documentary btw, 'the rise of linux'09:28
lampshadeyou can probably find the program you are looking for in the repositories09:28
Choubakayes09:28
ApeRi need install full packages09:28
Choubakawhy?09:28
rg58smahi i lost the bar of all my windows and aplication09:28
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lampshadeApeR: yeah the repos will do that for you.  sudo apt-get install programname09:28
rg58smaand cant move09:28
ChoubakaHave you got a machine with no internet connection?09:28
djpbluetooth and ubuntu anybody?09:28
krystalinoi may try ubuntu and have my personnal opinion, i just don't have enough hd space ;)09:29
ApeRahh09:29
nernubuntu has a livecd too09:29
ApeRcool09:29
krystalinocan you just tell me if hardware is recognised automatically ?09:29
ApeRok09:29
krystalinonern, ? where ?09:29
ApeRthanks men09:29
lampshadekrystalino: most is09:29
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krystalinolampshade, i'm thinking of video, sound and network especially09:29
darkauditkrystalino: for the most part... Ubuntu install found my firewire ports straight away :)09:30
krystalinowow, darkaudit09:30
tswkrystalino: and even 3com wlan card09:30
krystalino! great !09:30
ubotuwell, great  is cool09:30
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nernkrystalino: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/09:31
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darkauditkrystalino: and the network and sound :)09:31
krystalinonern, thanks. Is it a live cd to test it ? or to install it ?09:31
lampshadekrystalino:  I think you'll be ok.  You can always try the livecd.  ATI and Nvidia drivers are really easy to install.  I've never had ubuntu not detect networking so that should be ok09:31
jasprg58sma:  your window-manager has crashed, try to find someway to start the program "metacity". you can type it in a terminal f.e (if you allready have one open)09:31
krystalinocool. then i'll give it a try09:31
nernkrystalino: they have a live cd and an install cd and a dvd that works as a both09:31
darkauditonly extra I had to do was dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to use the nvidia drivers vs. the generic nv driver09:31
nernkrystalino: im pretty sure the livecd is just to test, i dont think it supports hd install, but the dvd can be booted as a live cd or used as an install cd.09:32
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krystalinoi especially need one feature of knoppix : automatic hardware recognition at boot. So i have only one ghost image that i can deploy on several Pcs. Can i do the same with ubuntu ?09:33
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chrissturmit seems that all hotkeys are broken in breezy. when i press ctrl-v to paste something gedit creates a new buffer09:33
krystalinoseveral different PCs09:33
spanglesontoasthow do fglrx09:33
spanglesontoastto work?09:33
nernkrystalino: and as for hardware, ubuntu automatically detected and configured my network and sound. And i only have to change one line in xorg.conf to fix my resolution.09:33
iceman2KCrap how to config my wifes system for internet ...09:34
spanglesontoasthow do I make fglrx work?09:34
krystalinonern, does it detects and configure hardware at __boot time__ or at __installation time__ ?09:35
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nernkrystalino: installation im pretty sure09:35
krystalino:/09:35
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krystalinook, it doesn't fit my needs, then. But i'll give it a try tho09:36
iceman2Kanyone familure with older red hat installs ...09:36
nernkrystalino: ive never used the livecd though09:36
Fator_Deespanglesontoast: what's wrong with it?09:36
[Spooky] what does the PUL law determens ?09:36
krystalinonern, with knoppix, it detects hardware even after  an hd installation09:36
spanglesontoastwell how do I get it working09:36
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iceman2Ktransgress cant turn on the eth0 ... it wound stay on ..09:36
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krystalinobut with proper modules, i may achive that too tho09:37
iceman2Ktransgress it can turn on .. but no packets .. all are lost ...09:37
Fator_Deespanglesontoast: www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto09:37
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spanglesontoastyea I did that09:40
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Fator_Deespanglesontoast: well, what is the problem?09:40
spanglesontoastwell cedega doesn't even run09:40
Fator_Deewell, that necessarily doesn't have anything to do with it09:40
spanglesontoastand I cannot select which resolution09:41
spanglesontoastI want09:41
Fator_Deewhat does "glxinfo | grep direct" say09:41
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spanglesontoastdirect rendering: No09:41
spanglesontoastOpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect09:41
Belial_holy crap, Linksys advertises this NIC as linux compatable, but the only drivers they have available go up to kernel 2.4, the driver does a check, sees a new kernel and says no09:42
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Fator_Deespanglesontoast: put your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log to www.pastebin.com09:42
Fator_Deespanglesontoast: and you did restart X afterwards?09:43
spanglesontoastya09:43
Belial_hi can someone help me please09:43
anto9usis it possible to change the fullscreen resolution in totem?09:44
spanglesontoasthttp://pastebin.com/29235209:44
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spanglesontoasthttp://pastebin.com/29235409:44
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neuneuh09:46
StinkywrixI've got a question with Cedega. Is it true with the latest patch, you can't play World of Warcraft in opengl?09:47
spanglesontoast?09:47
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shininghi09:47
bur[n] eranyone use mpd??09:47
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shiningis anyone using the new fglrx driver ?09:48
shiningmine is 5 months old09:48
shiningI can't find the last one09:48
spanglesontoastwell we are just working with it at the moment shining09:48
spanglesontoastfator you found anything there?09:48
shiningspanglesontoast: its released for months, but thats good to hear09:48
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spanglesontoastjust09:49
spanglesontoastin cs:s09:49
spanglesontoastI have a nice white glare09:49
spanglesontoastall over the game09:49
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mezhow much does cedega cost anyways?09:50
mezand does it play Dawn Of War?09:50
spanglesontoastabout 5 I think09:50
spanglesontoastevery 3 months09:50
mezmeh09:50
spanglesontoasthttp://www.eddland.plus.com/s1.png09:50
mezI cant even afford that09:50
spanglesontoasthave alook at my cs:s09:50
Fanskapetagh.. phpeclipse is fucking my brain :((((09:51
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Fanskapet*starts chewing on the keyboard*09:51
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Fator_Deespanglesontoast: you don't have to msg me09:51
Fator_DeeI'm looking at it all the time09:52
spanglesontoastah ok09:52
sijphi09:52
AevaDwhat partition type should i make for ubunto?09:53
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spanglesontoastupto you09:53
spanglesontoastmost people use ext309:53
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iceman2Kwell crud .. i got eth 0 to broadcast ... but still no internet09:53
Fator_Deespanglesontoast: well, I can't find anything that would indicate a problem09:54
BlissexAevaD: use 'ext3', I jsut did several benchmarks and for workstartions it is pretty good.09:54
ShuddertrixAevaD: Most people usually use ext3 but it's your choice (xfs, ext2, ext3, reiserfs, jfs, etc.)09:54
Fator_Deeext3 is good09:54
spanglesontoastodd ain't it09:54
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Fator_Deespanglesontoast: did you modprobe fgrlx?09:55
Fator_Dee*fglrx09:55
=== Shuddertrix did some benchmarking and found that vmware images run best formatted as reiser with ext3 close in speed also..
kumbihi guys09:56
shiningis there a way to test the new fglrx driver since it isnt officially released yet?09:56
iceman2Kgot a system eth0 broadcasting .. no internet though ... how to turn on dhcp ?09:56
Shuddertrixhard drives, go with ext3, it seems to be about the same speed and you'll never notice the difference anyways..09:56
spanglesontoastFATAL: Module fgrlx? not found.09:56
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Shuddertrixspanglesontoast: no question mark.09:56
Fator_Deespanglesontoast: I corrected myself afterwards :-\09:57
spanglesontoastsame lol09:57
Fator_Deespanglesontoast: I typoed it first09:57
spanglesontoastFATAL: Module fgrlx not found.09:57
Fator_Dee*fglrx09:57
spanglesontoastwith *?09:58
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rat51manno09:58
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Fator_Dee* indicates a correction09:58
rat51manIndeed.09:58
nernwee09:58
spanglesontoastok09:58
spanglesontoastwell It said module not there09:59
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Fator_Deeyou sure you have it installed?09:59
rat51manCorrectly installed?09:59
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we2byany one has vmware 5 installed successfully?09:59
Fator_Deebecause, it *should* be there if you say you have installed it09:59
AevaDwhen i create a partition for linux, is it logical or primary(im using partition magic)09:59
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rat51manPrimary10:00
sijpspanglesontoast, what is the output of : modprobe -l|grep fglrx10:00
Th4tBa5t4rdokay, i'm done playing with the LiveCD is there a way to instal from the LiveCD or should i just download copy of the insall ISO?10:00
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Shuddertrixwe2by: I do.10:00
rat51manYou gotta download it.10:00
RytmisFyi: the network problems vanished when I removed dhclient and installed dhcpcd.10:00
Th4tBa5t4rdcan't seem to find an answer to that on the webage10:01
rat51manwe2by: I do too.10:01
Shuddertrixwe2by: It installed fine for me, and it works perfectly.10:01
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we2byI need the gcc basic compile essential installed and the kernel header files?10:01
ShuddertrixGreat for when crossover won't run a windows application10:01
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spanglesontoast/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-k7/kernel/drivers/video/fglrx.ko10:01
Shuddertrixwe2by: yeah10:01
Th4tBa5t4rdanother dl...feel kinda bad about blowin the bandwidth on that. How's the speed on the Bittorrents for ubuntu?10:02
ShuddertrixTh4tBa5t4rd: download the install iso.10:02
sijpthen I guess it is installed10:02
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Sauron21HI....I was wondering if anyone uses the program "ik" (installkernel) ?? and if they are....is it any good??10:02
sijpdo you have the error after using the modprobe command?10:02
ShuddertrixTh4tBa5t4rd: I've found that the ubuntu torrents are slower then just downloading it from a fast mirror..10:02
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spanglesontoastwhich one10:02
hoovernjIf I forget the root pasword, am I screwed?10:03
Th4tBa5t4rdwell. i guess after i have it all set up i'll toss a couple on my server10:03
spanglesontoastedd@spangles:~$ modprobe fgrlx10:03
spanglesontoastFATAL: Module fgrlx not found.10:03
Fator_Deespanglesontoast: sudo modprobe :-|10:03
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Fator_Deeand it's FGLRX!!! without the capitalization :-|10:03
ShuddertrixTh4tBa5t4rd: And there's the chance of not having it on when the faster seeds are on (it always happened to me, i guess)10:03
Th4tBa5t4rdi'm going to be using the AMD64 distro10:03
sijpyou said : "well It said module not there"10:03
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Shuddertrixspanglesontoast: sudo modprobe fglrx10:03
spanglesontoastnot found10:04
Th4tBa5t4rdseems to run quite a bit faster than x64 on my box10:04
spanglesontoastFATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-k7/kernel/drivers/video/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted10:04
spanglesontoastah10:04
Fator_Deespanglesontoast: sudo...10:04
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MollyHi.. is there a way that I should go about asking a question?10:04
spanglesontoastya10:04
sijpwhat kernel are you using? use the "uname -r" command10:04
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spanglesontoastedd@spangles:~$ sudo modprobe fglrx10:04
spanglesontoastFATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-k7/kernel/drivers/video/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted10:04
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ShuddertrixTh4tBa5t4rd: yeah, wx64 isn't that fast on my friend's box either, it's slower then x32 or linux.. strange10:04
spanglesontoast2.6.10-5-k710:04
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Th4tBa5t4rdyou know, even though i hate IE, IE64 bit is faster than Firefox10:05
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ShuddertrixTh4tBa5t4rd: Isn't there a 64bit compiled version of Firefox floating around?10:05
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Th4tBa5t4rdbut i guess that isn't fair, running Firefox in emulation...bleh10:05
Fator_DeeMolly: ask a question and give as much info to us as you can10:06
ShuddertrixAh well, the firefox in linux is still fast ;)10:06
spanglesontoastanything wrong me using that kernel?10:06
Fator_Deespanglesontoast: no10:06
Fanskapetyeah.. the emulator sure slows down FireFox.10:06
Fator_Deespanglesontoast: lsmod | grep fglrx <- what does that say10:06
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Th4tBa5t4rdi couldn't google for a 64Firefox10:06
Fanskapetstill. i use FireFox in XP64 anyways :P10:06
MollyI just installed the Hoary release of Ubuntu today, and I can't do anything that requires root privileges.. I tried logging in as root from the main screen and it told me I couldn't, and every time it prompts me for my password to change users, it says, "Failed to run /usr/bin/syntaptic: child terminated with 1 status"10:06
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Molly(Where whatever it's trying to run may be different based on what I'm trying to do, obviously.)10:07
Fator_DeeMolly: ubuntu uses sudo, there is no root user10:07
spanglesontoastsays nothing10:07
sijpMolly, you should enter your user pswrd10:07
Fator_DeeMolly: eg, sudo synaptic, and you can open synaptic with roor privileges10:07
teebonesFator_Dee, sure there is a root user10:07
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Fator_Deeteebones: well, not as an "user" user :-p10:07
ShuddertrixFator_Dee: root is there, just "hidden"10:07
Mollysijp: When I enter my user password, it does the same thing.10:08
Fator_Deeteebones: you know what I mean, dammit! ;-)10:08
FanskapetIE is too damn awfully bad rendering pages to be used in my opinion :)10:08
ShuddertrixFator_Dee: You can give it a passwd and it will be the root account - the superuser10:08
medkitIt took me five hours to figure out that what human beings call "spdif out" is adressed as "IEC958 output" in that alsa mixer.10:08
teebonesFator_Dee, yes,, i know what you mean.. i'm just teasing ;-)10:08
Fator_Deeexplain it yourself if you are not satisfied with my explanations :-(10:08
sijpI did not ment in the login menu, I ment when you are promped for a password while in your user account10:08
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sijpmean*10:08
Fator_Deespanglesontoast: I don't have a clue what could be wrong with your system10:09
Mollysijp: That's what I meant to.  I get the same error message if I am prompted for a password while in my user account and I give it either my user password or my root (or sudo, it seems) password..10:09
Fator_DeeMolly: are you the only user in your computer?10:10
spanglesontoasthmm I'm going to restart10:10
spanglesontoastand see if it still does it10:10
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spanglesontoastbrb10:10
sobersabreMolly, what was the 1st user you've created with ubuntu ?10:10
MollyFator_Dee: Yes, I am.. and I tried running sudo synaptic in the 'run application' dialog and nothing happened..10:10
Fator_DeeMolly: you have to run it in terminal10:11
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Fator_DeeMolly: sudo synaptic, that is10:11
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Fator_DeeMolly: because it asks your password in the terminal, to execute it from the run application you have to write gksudo synaptic10:11
teebonesMolly, try in the following command in the "run application" : xterm10:11
teebones(it opens a terminal window)10:12
medkitHow to set the proper TV resolution for TV Out with the ATI Control panel or in xorg.conf?10:12
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shad0w1eanyone know how I can set up a sendmail server?10:12
teebonesshad0w1e, yes10:12
shad0w1eI installed sendmail and opened up ports 25 and 11010:12
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shad0w1ebut I still can't telnet in10:12
teeboneswhat did you enter as command then?10:13
shad0w1etelnet ipaddress 2510:13
teebonesdid it respond in any way?10:13
shad0w1eyes10:13
MollyNow it is telling me that my username is "not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported."10:13
shad0w1ecould not open connection...10:13
we2byhow do u configure vmware not to use /dev/dsp, and instead suing esd?10:13
teebonestry : sudo netstat -tan10:13
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teebonesdo you see something like ipaddress:25 LISTEN?10:14
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sobersabrewhere shall i ask q.-s about anjuta ?10:14
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Fator_Deeshad0w1e: I suggest "man telnet" to you, you don't specify ip like that10:14
shad0w1eno I dont10:14
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shad0w1eyes you do10:14
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shad0w1eIm using the windows telnet10:14
Fator_Dee:-/10:15
Fator_Deeheresy10:15
teebonesshad0w1e, ok.. make sure the sendmail is running then...10:15
Shuddertrixwe2by: I don't know, i don't use esd10:15
shad0w1ein fact, it said "could not open telnet on port (whatever). It got the port right10:15
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shad0w1eI did /etc/init.d/sendmail start10:15
sobersabreMolly, are you deaf ( blind ) ?10:15
shad0w1eand it said Already running10:15
sobersabrewhat is the 1st user you've created on the system ?10:15
teebonesok.. you could try this telnet session on the linux itself..10:16
teebones(from as terminal)10:16
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Mollysobresabre: No.. I'm trying to remember.. I think I had to give the "root" password, and then I created the user I'm using now..10:16
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knipknapcan anyone with a running iPod mini provide me with the partition table layout?10:16
teebonesto see if it is blocked by a relay rule.. or ACL10:16
Fator_DeeMolly: are you absolutely positively sure you are on the first account created on your computer?10:16
Crono5788Where's the system log?10:16
Fator_DeeMolly: then you are not using ubuntu :-\10:16
teebonesto prevent other nodes beside linux itself to react10:16
Fator_DeeMolly: ubuntu doesn't ask for a root password10:16
shad0w1ewait I actually DO see 2510:16
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MollyNevermind.. anyway, this is the first user I created, yes.10:16
shad0w1ehowever it says 127.0.0.1:2510:17
teebonesshad0w1e,  ok10:17
sobersabreMolly, don't think. see /etc/passwd file, and find user with the smallest UID ( i don't mean UIDs < 500 )10:17
MollyBut I had to give a separate password at some point, for something....10:17
teebonesthere you go10:17
sobersabreMolly, you gave password for your user.10:17
sijpMolly, open up /etc/sudoers , and check the user name in there10:17
shad0w1eNOT 0.0.0.0:2510:17
shad0w1e(like the other stuff, that do work)10:17
medkitCrono5788, /var/log hold a lot of logs10:17
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shiningomg ubuntu sux10:17
sobersabreroot is disabled by default in ubuntu.10:17
teebonesshad0w1e, it means that it only reacts on the LO interface, not you lan10:17
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shad0w1eteebones: it needs to be 0.0.0.0 ?10:17
Crono5788Ty medkit , found it10:18
sobersabreshining, are you a bored bot or you have a problem ?10:18
japoederI don't mean to interrupt, but is there anyone who can offer some guidance on installing Java1.5.0?  I am having a hell of a time getting it installed (it probably doesn't help that I have only been using Ubuntu for a few days).10:18
teebonesshad0w1e, what do you want to astablish with sendmail?10:18
teeboneserr establish10:18
shad0w1eim lost. for the time being, at least incoming10:18
shad0w1efrom err the internet10:18
sobersabrejapoeder, do you need JRE or SDK ?10:18
japoederjre10:18
sobersabrehave you downloaded it from java.sun.com ?10:19
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teebonesshad0w1e, well do you know the concept behind mailservers? (terms and such)10:19
Mollysijp: I can't display sudoers, it says..10:19
japoederyeah, I have followed the instructions as well10:19
japoederI want it for limewire and as a plugin10:19
Mollysobersabre: what is a UID?10:19
medkitjapoeder, follow http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre10:19
sobersabrepasswd file looks like this:10:19
shad0w1eteebones: no.10:19
sobersabredaemon:x:1:1:daemon:/usr/sbin:/bin/sh10:20
shad0w1eI woke up today and decided I want to make a mailserver10:20
Fator_DeeMolly: User ID10:20
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sobersabreMolly, the 3rd field is UID, the 4th is GID10:20
quailsterjapoeder: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java1510:20
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teebonesshad0w1e, ok.. a little (simple) background lesson then..10:20
shad0w1eyea.10:21
shad0w1eI mean I set up ssh, telnet, vsftpd, and VNC all by myself...10:21
goldfisheh.10:21
teebonesshad0w1e, ok.. :)10:21
shad0w1eis this like WAY more complicated?10:21
japoederthanks guys, I will check them out and get back to you10:21
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quailsterjapoeder: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java is what I used to install Java on my ubuntu10:21
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sobersabrejapoeder, that page installs sdk10:21
sobersabrei find it very easy to install vanilla sun java10:22
Mollysobersabre/Fator_Dee: Is UID = 1000 possibly the first user?10:22
teebonesshad0w1e, depends.. the problem is that sendmail has huge possibilities.. but also if known to be kinda complicated to configure10:22
teebonesif = is10:22
bkwDoes ubuntu has problems playing normal audio cds? I don't get any sound and the CD-player doesnt start playing.10:22
sobersabreMolly, yes, i think so.10:22
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Fator_DeeMolly: yes it is10:22
sobersabrebkw, play with the mixer, and run a CD player 1st.10:22
Mollysobresabre: Okay, that's the one I'm logged into right now..10:22
quailsterI find the wiki pages to be quite useful for solving common problems in Ubuntu.10:22
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teebonesshad0w1e, i'm not going to tell you everything.. that would take me hours of typing... but...10:23
sobersabreif you run "id" command, do you see "admin" ?10:23
sobersabreMolly, that was meant for you ...10:23
teebonesshad0w1e, I will explain the process....10:23
shad0w1ek.10:24
sobersabreMolly, what do you see if you run "id" ?10:24
teebonesshad0w1e, 1) the mailserver needs to be connected to the internet (thus also accept connection to port 25 tcp)10:24
shad0w1ePOSITIVE!10:24
Mollygroups=4(adm)10:25
Mollyamong other things10:25
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MollySorry, I'm still trying to get the hang of this.. thank you for your patience..10:25
teebones2) you need to setup RELAYING the proper way, thus dissalowing sending mail from the wrong networks... (like the internet)10:25
sobersabreMolly, is this ubuntu hoary  or warty ?10:25
shad0w1ewhat?10:25
teebonesover your mailserver to another mailserver10:25
Mollysobersabre: Hoary10:25
bkwsobersabre: nothing happens, even if I have the cdplayer started before I instert the cd. I can see all the song titles, but it still doesnt start playing.10:25
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teebones3) you need to let the mailserver know for wich domains it is held responsible for (receiving mail)10:26
sijpbkw, start the player from the terminal, and check for errors10:26
sobersabrebkw, do you see the time advancing ?10:26
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shad0w1eim still at step 210:26
sobersabrebkw, have you listened to a CD before on this machine ?10:26
Mollysobersabre: I also see 107(lpadmin)10:27
bkwsobersabre: no, I press play it it jumps back.10:27
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DekaPinkHey all~10:27
bkwsobersabre: no10:27
sobersabrebkw, you need to set the cdrom link properly10:27
sobersabreis this a CDwriter or DVD rom ?10:27
teebones4) The domains dns zone should have your mailserver in it (MX record)10:27
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shad0w1eI have a ddns account...10:27
sobersabrehm... on the other hand you say you see the track names...10:27
sobersabrestop..10:28
bkw** (gnome-cd:9638): WARNING **: Could not open CD device for reading. ;  ** (gnome-cd:9638): WARNING **: cdparanoia: failed opening cd10:28
sobersabreMolly, if you run: sudo vipw10:28
teebones5) you need to setup aliasses (user accounts and/or aliasses)10:28
bkwsobersabre: i does mount the cd without any problems10:28
bkwit10:28
teebones6) configure your imap/pop server properly10:28
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sobersabrebkw, is this an audio CD or a data CD ?10:28
japoederIt worked, thanks guys/girls.  Hoorayy for Ubuntu!!!!10:29
teebones7) activate spammassasin and Mailscanner on the mailserver10:29
teebones8) active the hole of services10:29
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teebones9) test it out10:29
teebones10) done10:29
bkwsobersabre: I think it's both, cause I'am actually only see data files atm.10:29
sobersabrejapoeder, what worked ?10:29
ApfelstrudelHi Everyone10:29
japoederthe java instructions10:29
sobersabrebkw, are you on a KDE or GNOME ?10:29
bkwsobersabre: gnome10:29
Mollysobresabre: It asked me for my password, then told me that my username was "not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported."10:29
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sobersabreif you run "grep root /etc/passwd10:30
DekaPinkMy friend seems to like it... I haven't found a distribution to stick to yet, though.10:30
teebonesshad0w1e, with these pointers and google you should come to a working system10:30
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sobersabredo you see "!" in the 2nd position ?10:30
shad0w1eteebones: thanks10:30
tnixhey people, are any of you perhaps able to tell me what kernel Ubuntu 4.10 came with? Google is giving me nothing..10:30
teebonesshad0w1e, I read a book about sendmail (300 pages)10:30
ApfelstrudelI have one Question: I want to Download the LiveCD for Testing, but if ubuntu works great on my Laptop, i won`t download an extra install cd! Is there an Way to make an HDD Install from LiveCD ?10:30
shad0w1eI wrote em down10:30
Mollysobersabre: assuming that was for me, no, I don't.. I see "x" in the second position.10:31
sobersabretnix, try www.ubuntulinux.org...10:31
sijpMolly, that means this is not your first user10:31
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bkwsobersabre: any ideas?10:31
sobersabredo you see "!" ?10:31
tnixsobersabre, yeah, already did.. says nothing about previous releases and their specs, unfortunately10:31
sobersabrethis is untrue.. fortunately.10:31
syndwoohoo!10:31
teebonesshad0w1e, ok.. and also if in doubt about the relaying part (wich is almost the most important one) you can do a relay test on the net ;-)10:31
MollyNo, I see "x".  So, how do I find my first user? :-/10:31
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iceman2KAnyone useing a Compaq system ? that can tell me the proper net driver for onbaord net .. intel pro 10/100 net onboard10:32
sobersabreMolly, have you installed from a CD or you upgraded from Debian ?10:32
Mollysobresabre: Installed from a CD.10:32
Crono5788Anyone know how to get a WEP key?10:32
sobersabre"x" means root has a password.10:32
Crono5788Anyone know how to get a WEP key?10:32
sobersabrehoary doesn't come like that out of the box.10:32
syndWEP is the "password" for your network10:32
syndCrono5788,10:32
syndCrono5788, the WEP key, rather10:33
sobersabreCrono5788, if you run a wifi net on WEP,... better dont.10:33
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syndsobersabre, is better than nothing10:33
sobersabreWEP is security by stupidity10:33
Mollysobresabre: I did an expert setup so that it wouldn't reformat my entire hard drive.10:33
iceman2Kim still looking for the dang any key on my keyboard .... ;)10:33
sobersabresynd, no, MAC filtering is better.10:33
syndsobersabre, yes, it is10:33
teebonesiceman2K, me too10:33
sobersabreMolly, r u alive ?10:34
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shad0w1eteebones: is relaying necessary?10:34
sobersabredo you remember your root password or not ?10:34
Mollysobresabre: Yes, I'm alive.. are you getting my messages?10:34
Crono5788Hello?10:34
iceman2Kany one ever find the "any key" ... my keyboard does not have one ... ;)10:34
syndsobersabre, i have to disable all but WEP on my Airport Express router so that Ubuntu can log into the network.10:34
teebonesshad0w1e, in the wrong way, yes you need it..10:34
MollyYes, I remember it.. that's when I get the message that I mentioned at the very beginning...10:34
shad0w1ewhere "don't" I want to recieve mail froM ?????10:34
sobersabresynd, i use WPA, and MAC filtered on Belkin.10:34
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teebonesshad0w1e, relaying means, allowing to send mail through a mailserver (in this case your mailserver)10:35
syndsobersabre, and Ubuntu can log into that?10:35
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teebonesso, yes you need relaying for your computers ONLY10:35
shad0w1eI want to be able to recieve mail from the WWW10:35
sobersabresynd, i am chatting with it :)10:35
teebonesthat way, only your computers can send mail through your server.. nobody else..10:35
syndsobersabre, i can enable WPA and used to have it, but I encountered problems logging into the network with my Ubuntu computers.10:35
sobersabresynd, you need a program wpasupplicant10:36
sobersabreand you need proper drivers..10:36
syndsobersabre, wpasupplicant ?10:36
sobersabrewhich wlan card do you use ?10:36
teebonesshad0w1e, that's possible if you open port 25 and have setup the domain part the right way10:36
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sobersabresynd, yes.10:36
teebonesbut then again, only do it if you have setup relaying properly10:36
shad0w1ewhat do you mean by "setup the domain part the right way10:36
Mollysobersabre: It won't even let me type "sudo synaptic".. it says that my username is not in the sudoers file..10:36
sobersabreMolly, run "su -"10:37
sobersabregive root password.10:37
syndsobersabre, I use a U.S. Robotics card in one  of my laptops, and a D-Link in my desktop. dont know the model #s off the top of my head10:37
shad0w1esobersabre: once in root accout, run chuser10:37
sobersabreand use plain text command line: apt-get install package_name10:37
teebonesshad0w1e, step 410:37
shad0w1eteebones: thanks10:37
maycoanybody have an idea when gst-plugins 0.8.9 will be uploaded to breezy?10:37
sobersabreyou don't HAVE to use sudo.10:37
teebonesand step 3 too10:38
Mollysobersabre: I got logged into user, but I can't run synaptic from there..10:38
syndsudo synaptic10:38
sobersabreif you insist ( which is good ), use "visudo", but learn how to use it first.10:38
sobersabrebut you must run "visudo" as root.10:38
syndhow does one enter other usernames into the sudoers file?10:38
shad0w1eteebones: how do I send mail to another user on the same machine using the "sendmail" binary?10:38
Mollysobersabre: okay, I ran visudo.. now what do I do?10:38
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sobersabreMolly, you cannot run synaptic unless you're in "admin" group10:39
Fator_Deesynd: with visudo10:39
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sobersabresorsis, run "vigr" as root, and add your username in the end of line that begins with "admin"10:39
teebonesshad0w1e, if you openup port 25 and are running sendmail behind that port.. AND you haven't setup relaying properly.. there is a great possibility spammers will user your mailserver to send the spamm to others10:39
sobersabresorsis, this wasn't meant for you.10:39
syndFator_Dee, is there a GUI way?10:39
iceman2Kanyone have a compaq computer here ?10:39
shad0w1eteebones: gotcha, now I understand10:39
Fator_Deesynd: I don't know of any10:39
iceman2Ki need the network adapter10:40
iceman2Kintel pro 10/10010:40
MollyWhat do I do once I'm in the sudoers file with visudo from root?10:40
iceman2Kwhat adapter in linux10:40
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sobersabresynd, as long as card's driver has ieee80211_crypt_tkip10:40
sobersabreyou can use wpa etc.10:40
syndreally? hmm10:40
syndsee WPA seems about overkill where I am10:41
sobersabreof course you need a wpasupplicant program to setup stuff.10:41
we2byany one has vmware installed with sound working in vmware?10:41
robert_Hcan someone help me? my sound card is detected but no sound10:41
syndrobert_H, enable ALSA10:41
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MollyFator_Dee or sobresabre: Should I be adding admin privileges to my normal username or sudo, and how do I do that?10:41
robert_Halsa seems to be working10:41
shad0w1eteebones: how do i send mail to another user on the local machine usine "sendmail" exectutable10:41
teebonesshad0w1e, ehm.. example: echo "hello" |sendmail shad0w1e mysubjecthere10:42
robert_Haplay -l10:42
robert_H**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****10:42
robert_Hcard 0: V8235 [VIA 8235] , device 0: VIA 8235 [VIA 8235] 10:42
robert_H  Subdevices: 3/410:42
robert_H  Subdevice #0: subdevice #010:42
robert_H  Subdevice #1: subdevice #110:42
robert_H  Subdevice #2: subdevice #210:42
robert_H  Subdevice #3: subdevice #310:42
robert_Hcard 0: V8235 [VIA 8235] , device 1: VIA 8235 [VIA 8235] 10:42
robert_H  Subdevices: 1/110:42
shad0w1eteebones: so you pipe it... thanks10:42
robert_H  Subdevice #0: subdevice #010:42
teebonesyep10:42
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sobersabrerobert_H, use #flood10:42
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robert_Hwhy? (sorry, I'm new here)10:42
syndrobert_H, no flodding10:43
syndflooding10:43
robert_Hok sorry10:43
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teebonesshad0w1e, i could say that.. but then again, you might not know what pipe means on linux10:43
shad0w1eteebones: it says it saved it in MY username (not the one I wanted to send to) /dead.letter ... is that good?10:43
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syndrobert_H, ubuntuguide.org#configuresoundproperly10:43
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robert_Hthankyou$10:43
syndrobert_H, try that10:44
shad0w1eI know what piping is, I've done some unix programming10:44
shad0w1eits stdin10:44
teebonesshad0w1e, so it seems.. but i don't know that...10:44
teebones:-)10:44
shad0w1eah10:44
iNFiDELshello all10:44
shad0w1eteebones: it says it saved it in MY username (not the one I wanted to send to) /dead.letter ... is that good?             anyway, is that a problem?10:44
teebonestherefor i allways explain thing the simple way10:44
teebones+s10:44
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teeboneswhat command did you enter?10:45
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iNFiDELsIs anyone able to help me with an error?10:45
shad0w1eecho "hello" |sendmail to_user  subject10:45
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syndiNFiDELs, ask and you shall receive10:45
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teebonesnothing wrong with the command10:45
iNFiDELsThe install cd hangs on "checking if image is initramfs..."10:45
teebonesshould work...10:46
iceman2Kcant figure out which net card to use in linux on my wifes system .. getting her to linux ... but cant get the network ..10:46
thenostradamusanyone know if limewire is available??10:46
Juhazwhat's the difference between "suggests" and "recommends" fields in a deb package?10:46
iceman2Kits a onboard card on a compaq mb ... intel chipset ... 10/100 net ... ?10:46
shad0w1ethenostradamus: use gtk-gnutella10:46
iNFiDELsandi cant really figure out why...10:46
shad0w1esame thing10:46
shad0w1ebetter10:46
thenostradamusi heard that was outdated?10:46
shad0w1ei heard it works REALLY DAMN GOOD10:46
thenostradamusu use it?10:46
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shad0w1emy friend does10:47
g14thenostradamus: I'm using it now10:47
thenostradamusoh, ok10:47
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thenostradamusthanks10:47
JStrikeshad0w1e : gtk-gnutella is quite far behind in implementing the Gnutella1 spec10:48
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JStrikeAnd the UI is terrible (Not that Limewire's is better)10:48
syndlimewire sucks :/10:48
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DekaPinkI like Limewire. :310:48
shad0w1ejsolares: so what's better?10:48
thenostradamusme 210:48
shad0w1eJStrike: so whats better?10:48
thenostradamuslimewire has always worked for me10:48
sobersabreMolly, so ... are you done ?10:48
syndshad0w1e, so you say gtk-gnutella?10:49
LinuxJonesiceman2K, it's a wireless network card ?10:49
jsolaresshad0w1e, windows10:49
shad0w1esynd, i hear it works really good10:49
iNFiDELsMy install cd hangs on "checking if image is initramfs...", does anyone know what the problem could be?10:49
JStrikeshad0w1e : Limewire is as good as it gets at the moment unfortunatly10:49
shad0w1ealthough it IS ugly10:49
teebonesjsolares, you mean xWindows?10:49
syndshad0w1e, im gonna check it out10:49
shad0w1ebearshare's okay!10:49
thenostradamushahahhaha10:49
teebones;-)10:49
syndshad0w1e, well most GTK stuff is ugly : D10:49
thenostradamusr they gonna make a debian package?10:49
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Mollysobersabre: No, I'm stuck, and I wasn't sure if you were too busy with other people..10:50
Kartagiswhen I use ubuntu remotely with putty and pico somefile, I can't use numpad because it says numpad glitch. any ideas how to fix that?10:50
shad0w1eyeah in KDE 3.5 , maybe they'll have KitTorrent, and Kimewire10:50
JStrikeDude, I am telling you gtk-gnutella is very far behind the other gnutella apps, as they admit themselves10:50
thenostradamusnice10:50
iceman2KLinuxJone no ... onboard ... cat 510:50
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teebonesshad0w1e, lol10:50
MollyI have the sudoers file open using visudo in root, but I don't know what to do now..10:50
shad0w1eMolly: thats NOT how you do it10:50
shad0w1eMolly: just add yourself to the admin group10:50
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iceman2KLinuxJone intel pro 100 net card ... but it wont load correctly ...10:50
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LinuxJonesiceman2K, do lspci and find out what model or chipset the card is using10:51
shad0w1eMolly: using chuser --help10:51
teebonesiceman2K, what module do you use?10:51
Mollyshad0w1e: How would I do that, exactly?10:51
shad0w1ewait10:51
shad0w1egot that wrong10:51
shad0w1eone sec..10:51
Mollyshad0w1e: Yeah, chuser was not found.10:51
shad0w1eusermod10:51
shad0w1eusermod --help10:51
shad0w1eyou can either change your primary group to admin10:52
SnakeBitewhere can i find exact log of the boot-up process10:52
teebonesiceman2K, you have 2 intel pro 100 modules in the 2.6 kernels10:52
shad0w1eor add it as a supplementary group10:52
teebonesone is faulty the other works10:52
shad0w1eeasiest way (to change the main group) is usernmod username -G admin10:52
LinuxJonesiceman2K, sorry I have to split10:52
iceman2KLinuxJone np10:52
AevaDwhats a completly free program that allows me to create a partition on an harddrive so that i can install ubunto onto it?10:53
shad0w1eAevaD: The ubuntu install CD?10:53
teebonesfdisk?10:53
teebones;)10:53
Mollysobersabre, are you still there?10:53
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aboodhi all10:53
iceman2Kteebones humm ... old celeron compaq motherboard ... may try thy ne driver ..10:53
AevaDthe install cd will create a partition for me when i install it?10:53
SeveasAevaD, parted/gparted/qtparted10:54
shad0w1eAevaD : yes, or you can specify exactly what you want10:54
Kartagisguys, when I use ubuntu remotely with putty and pico somefile, I can't use numpad because it says numpad glitch. any ideas how to fix that?10:54
shad0w1eAevaD , but REMEMEBR to make a swap partition10:54
teebonesiceman2K, ehm.. could be it.. but you should know your hardware... ;-)10:54
AevaDok10:54
AevaDdo i have to boot from the install cd?10:54
shad0w1eyes10:54
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aboodguys, i dont know what proplem i have, when im already connected to internet and surfing the web suddenly the browser wont work ( like there is no connection) and all other applications r connecting, i solved this proplem by poff my conn and pon it again, is there any solution for this except mine ?10:55
AevaDhow do i do that10:55
shad0w1ewhat is your processor speed10:55
iceman2Kteebones cant install ubuntu on her system yet ... i like ubuntu of all the distro's i have tried ..10:55
SeveasAevaD, put in in your cd-drive and reboot10:55
geirixhi all.....I really need help - I have Firewire external harddrives here at work, and well, did setup ubuntu instead of windows 2003 server10:55
shad0w1eAevad: what is your processor speed10:55
sobersabreMolly, yep10:55
geirixproblem...I can only read them10:55
teebonesiceman2K, ?10:55
AevaDpentium 4 hyperthreading 3ghz10:55
iceman2Kteebones right now she still needs winblow on her system ... so i installed winlinux 2003 ...10:55
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Seveasgeirix, fat/ntfs filesystem?10:55
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shad0w1eAevad, ok. then booting off a cd shoul NOT be a problem!10:56
geirixntfs and fat on the firewire10:56
Mollysobersabre: You seemed to have an idea of what I should do, but once I got sudoers open, you disappeared.. what's your suggestion?10:56
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we2byany one has vmware installed with sound working in vmware?10:56
iceman2Kteebones dang red hat derivitive ...10:56
teebonesiceman2K, ok..10:56
AevaDits the only thing my comp can do, i have no floppy drive10:56
shad0w1eAevaD, you may have to boot into BIOS though to tell it to scan the CD drive before booting off the hard drive10:56
sobersabreMolly, close sudoers10:56
Seveasgeirix, ntfs can only be mounted read-only, for fat you need to set a umask to be able to write10:56
sobersabreMolly, add your user to a group "admin" that's all.10:56
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iceman2Kteebones have to config it from windows ... then hope that linux likes the config ... lol ... :(10:56
AevaDok brb10:56
sobersabreMolly, do you know how to do this ?10:56
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geirixSeveas: the problem is that they are hotplugged (mounted) - couldn't do it via fstab like in gentoo10:57
AevaDthanks for the help shad0wle10:57
shad0w1esure thing10:57
teebonesiceman2K, you could do dualbooting10:57
SnakeBitewhere can i find exact log of the boot-up process10:57
KartagisSeveas: when I use ubuntu remotely with putty and pico somefile, I can't use numpad because it says numpad glitch. any ideas how to fix that?10:57
Mollysobersabre, no.. how do I add my user to the admin group?10:57
KartagisSnakeBite: /var/log/dmesg10:57
Seveasgeirix, fat should be mounted writeable for the user who plugs it in....10:57
sobersabrecan you become root ?10:57
iceman2Kteebones cant get her cd rom to like the install cd's or even live cd ..10:57
Seveasgeirix, can you paste the output of 'mount' to ubuntu.pastebin.com please10:57
SnakeBiteno i mean da samwe thing that shows on boot up10:57
teebonesiceman2K, wow.. that's not good10:58
SeveasKartagis, yeah i've seen that before...10:58
shad0w1eMolly: sudo usermod -G admin username10:58
SeveasKartagis, seems to be puttys fault10:58
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teebonesno atapi compatible cddrive10:58
teeboneshmm10:58
SeveasKartagis, hmm wait, no10:58
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Seveasit was my keyboard back then :)10:58
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shad0w1eMolly: where username, is YOUR username10:58
Quest-MasterHindi and Urdu speaking Ubuntu users-- #ubuntu-hi and #ubuntu-ur :)10:59
iceman2Kteebones weird ... set on the second ide ... but the installer hangs on install ... so just installed winlinux ...10:59
SeveasKartagis, try another keyboard if you have that option10:59
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SnakeBiteKartagis  - no i mean da samwe thing that shows on boot up10:59
thunder04Hello everybody.10:59
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teebonesiceman2K, ok..10:59
shad0w1eanyone know how I can check if my hard drives are running in DMA or (crappy) mode ??10:59
shad0w1ePIO10:59
teeboneshdparm10:59
shad0w1eyeah thats it10:59
shad0w1ethanks10:59
teebonesman hdparm10:59
SeveasSnakeBite, dmesg shows what's shown on bootup10:59
shad0w1eman everything10:59
shad0w1elol10:59
SeveasSnakeBite, try /var/log/kern.log too11:00
iceman2Kteebones just figuring out the net card for internet access ..11:00
spanglesontoastwhat do you guys make of this11:00
spanglesontoasthttp://www.eddland.plus.com/s1.png11:00
SnakeBite10x11:00
teebonesshad0w1e, hehe11:00
GeneralCodynsg NICKSERV /identify generalc11:00
spanglesontoastlol11:00
GeneralCodysorry11:00
SeveasGeneralCody, ouch11:00
Seveaschange your password asap11:00
thunder04Hey, I have a brand new Dell Dimension 8400 /w the P4 that has EM64T extentions...I wanted to install the 64 bit version of Ubuntu, but it seems to halt when trying to detect my CD-ROM (or any PATA or SATA controller)...anybody know what I can do to get it to detect my drives?11:01
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GeneralCodymsg NICKSERV /identify generalc11:01
GeneralCodyhehe11:01
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iNFiDELsMy install cd hangs on "checking if image is initramfs...", does anyone know what the problem could be?11:01
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SeveasGeneralCody, ehm...11:01
Seveastry /msg11:01
SeveasiNFiDELs, bad cd?11:02
iNFiDELsjust used it to install on another system11:02
iNFiDELsdoes it sound more like a hardware error than software?11:02
Seveascd dirty?11:02
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occyOk... question time.  Who here knows of a card that works 100% with Ubuntu Linux Out of the Box? (3d and everything)11:02
occyplease don't say nVidia.11:02
iNFiDELsif so ill just go check for stuff like that11:03
Seveasnvidia11:03
Seveas:p11:03
shad0w1envidia is a hell lot easier than ATI11:03
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iNFiDELslol11:03
iNFiDELs@ the difficulty of ati11:03
Seveasoccy, there is no such thing11:03
occymy nvidia locks my box up harder than dookie11:03
occywith or without the drivers.11:03
occySame box... an run on Windows for MONTHS (6 months) without a single lockup.11:04
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occyerr  s/an/can/11:04
shad0w1eoccy: so use windows, lol11:04
occyshad0w1e, :P11:04
shad0w1esix months without a SINGLE lockup?11:04
shad0w1eare you kidding?11:04
occyyes... as funny as that seems.11:04
occyI went back to my laptop and Ubuntu for 6 months and just had windows on here as a test.11:04
occyI DARED it to lock up.11:05
occyI did games on it... and everything.11:05
shad0w1eoccy: hmm. is there some secret version of windows that runs on the linux core or something11:05
occynothing ever happend.11:05
occyshad0w1e, shhhhh11:05
Fackamatoanyone managed to play drm protected wmv files?11:05
occyshad0w1e, bill doesn't want you to know.11:05
occyhehe11:05
occy*sigh*11:05
shad0w1eIm thinkin their gonna do it one day, ..... ONE day11:05
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occyI lub my Ubuntu... but need this box which is pIV 2.4G11:05
FabiWhere do I find docs about automical installation of ubuntu? The Kickstart docs are not very encouraging but tells me that i can automate the installation without.11:05
occymy laptop is only pIII50011:05
shad0w1eits enough11:06
shad0w1ei had it running on a p2 266 w/ 192 ram11:06
occyshad0w1e, not for graphics... which is what I do.11:06
shad0w1ewith KDE11:06
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occyshad0w1e, I do web design.11:06
occyand graphics with Gimp and such.11:06
iceman2Khow to determin ip gateway ...11:06
shad0w1eyou might want 512 ram then11:06
Seveasiceman2K, ifconfig..11:06
occyheh11:06
shad0w1eor use fluxbox11:06
shad0w1esave some ram there11:06
occypIII500 doesn't cut it with 512m of ram.  I have that now.11:07
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occyanyway11:07
occyargh11:07
iceman2KSeveas got ifconfig running ... dont see gat way in the list11:07
occyMaybe if I tried a different card11:07
iceman2Kinet addr:192.168.0.100  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.011:07
shad0w1eaight peace people im out11:07
occymaybe my card is just hosed.11:07
occyshad0w1e, later11:07
smoky_iceman: netstat -rn11:07
shad0w1ethanks teebone, for your help11:07
iNFiDELsam stuck11:07
iNFiDELsHave tried 2 cds both crash on "checking if image is initramfs..."11:07
shad0w1eiNFiDELs -- maybe "image is NOT initramfs..."11:08
shad0w1elol11:08
iNFiDELslive cd AND install cd11:08
iNFiDELsbut then it would say that11:08
shad0w1etry a different distro?11:08
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iNFiDELsbut thats 500Mb away :p11:08
shad0w1echeck your ram, and check your hard disk partitions11:08
iNFiDELsthere are no partitions as of yet11:09
shad0w1emaybe run a memory test?11:09
iNFiDELsbut cud u suggest an app to check my ram (which i am sure is ok)11:09
smoky_memtest8611:09
thunder04memtest86, should be on the LiveCD (I think)11:10
shad0w1esorry... I know once ubuntu is installed, theres memtest86 on the GRUB menu11:10
shad0w1eah11:10
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shad0w1ealso, iNFiDELs , do TRY another hard drive11:10
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shad0w1ejust to see if it boots11:10
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Mollysobersabre: sorry.. my battery ran out suddenly.. :-/11:10
Seveasshad0w1e, it's the *CD* that refuses to boot...11:10
sobersabreMolly, did you edit /etc/sudoers as i've told ya ?11:11
shad0w1eMolly: sudo usermod -G admin username11:11
SeveasiNFiDELs, how old is that PC and how long did you wait before deciding it crashed?11:11
SeveasiNFiDELs, and have you tried various boot options?11:11
shad0w1eMolly: where username is your user name11:11
Seveasespecially acpi related ones11:11
JEI am having issues with firefox loaded on Hoary, will not load certain pages, like Google..Anyone have any insight?11:11
sobersabreshad0w1e, you assume he installed reg. installation.11:11
iNFiDELsthe pc is very old11:11
SeveasiNFiDELs, this check can take some time11:11
admxIBM R40 Laptop (768 Ram) , (60G HD) (Centrino 802.11b) with Ubuntu running just fine...11:12
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shad0w1eah11:12
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iNFiDELsoh11:12
iNFiDELs... i see11:12
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iNFiDELsit has been going for about 10minutes now11:12
iNFiDELs+ i will just try a new hdd11:12
Seveasehm ok11:12
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Seveas10 minutes is too long :)11:12
JEHello?11:14
Seveashi :)11:14
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SeveasJE, not loading huh, does it say 'looking up www.google.com' for a very very long time?11:14
JEcan anyone help me with a firefox issue?11:14
iNFiDELswhat are these various boot options?11:15
JEYes...11:15
iNFiDELsahh, perhaps ill chek the site11:15
JEand times out.11:15
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SeveasiNFiDELs, you will see these in a menu when you boot the cd's (you might have to press escape for them)11:15
JEBut goes to other web sights just fine..11:15
SeveasJE, i think i know what it is :)11:15
JE:)11:15
SeveasJE: in FF hit ctrl+t to open a new tab. Then type about:config, in the filter section locate network.dns.disableIPV6 and set its value to true. Now restart FF.11:15
JEbrb11:15
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JESeveas, Worked like a charm!  Thanks so much!  Would love to buy you a beer!11:19
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christosi downloaded realplayer10gold.bin i run and installed it in /usr/local/share. when i run realplay or i press the shortcuts nothing happens11:19
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christosthen i installed thehelix package from aptitude and still11:19
iNFiDELshmm11:20
petersokIs it possible to run Ubuntu on a system with two graphics cards running in SLI mode?11:20
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iNFiDELslol, any of these advanced options just aid the computer in hanging faster :p11:20
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christosanyone has install realplayer 10 ?11:22
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iNFiDELsany other suggestions to get initramfs11:24
iNFiDELsto work?11:24
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iceman2Kdam it ... can not get wifes wywtem to find the internet ...11:26
iceman2Kdam it ... can not get wifes system to find the internet ...11:26
iceman2Kgetting the net card to load ... and find network ... dhcp ..11:27
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thunder04I'm trying to install Ubuntu 5.0.4 EM64T onto my new Dell Dimension 8400...but it can't detect my CD-ROM drive (it wants me to load an additional CD-ROM driver from a floppy)...anybody know where I can find this?11:28
tanek_is anyone else experiencing problems logging into msn accounts using gaim?11:29
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monchyno, msn working fine on gaim11:29
spanglesontoastwhy is my machines graphics really slow?11:29
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Shuddertrixsomething ate my memory, this stinks11:30
Shuddertrixagain!11:30
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raphaelHello there!11:31
raphaelMay I ask; is there someone with a little bit of experience with ALSA?11:32
spanglesontoastdoubt it alsa lot are useless11:32
spanglesontoastwell they managed to get some of my stuff working11:32
Shuddertrixraphael: /topic11:32
Shuddertrixraphael: "Have a question? Just ask!"11:32
raphaelOh, I don't use Breezy. ;)11:32
raphaelWell, It's somewhat strange..11:33
Seveasraphael, no the first bit11:33
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SeveasShuddertrix, try top11:34
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ShuddertrixSeveas: The thing is, i can't find the culprit11:34
raphaelALSA recognises my soundcard (silly onbord one), I can see the card in /proc, I can use the gnome-sound-mixer and alsa-mixer and unmute and mute and increase and decrease volume, BMP even thinks it's playing.. but I don't hear anything.11:34
ozmundwhich script decides what directory should be mapped as 'home'?11:34
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we2byany one has vmware installed with sound working in vmware?11:34
Shuddertrixwe2by: I have sound working.11:35
we2byShuddertrix, how?11:35
Shuddertrixwe2by: However, I don't use esd ;)11:35
DakkoHas anyone else had monitor problems with Hoary? I just installed and it goes through the installation process just fine... But when it comes to the Name:/Pass: screen, nothing is displayed11:35
we2byShuddertrix, what do you use then?11:35
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Shuddertrixwe2by: I believe it's using alsa11:35
hnthi all11:35
we2bybah11:35
we2byI don't need sound in vmware anyway11:36
DakkoDoes anyone know how to fix this?11:36
raphaelIs there something I may have forgotten?11:36
Shuddertrixwe2by: I don't use esd, too much configuration and sound problems IMO11:36
ShuddertrixIt's still installed, just stopped from being used I think11:36
we2byit's ok to me11:36
hntI have a problem when I try to install scummvm in Hoary; I added universe n multiverse to the sources, I mark the scummvm package but I get 2 "uninstallable" libs.. name libmad and libmpeg2 - did I miss anything? any suggestions?11:37
ShuddertrixI think vmware didn't shut down cleanly.11:37
ShuddertrixI'll be right back.. something will fix it, i'm sure11:37
raphaelThe strange thing is; the oss-drivers work. No record, though..11:37
aboodguys, im trying "sudo apt-get realplayer" it wont work it give me11:37
aboodFailed to fetch http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports/dists/hoary-extras/restricted/binary-i386/realplayer_10.0.4-0.2~5.04ubp1_i386.deb  403 Forbidden11:37
aboodE: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?11:37
aboodi updated it and it couldn't be downloaded ?! any idea11:37
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shad0w1eanyone know if it's possible to set openssh to receive incoming connections from telnet?11:38
raphaelabood; It seems as the .deb you want do download is not available anymore.11:38
raphaelHave you tried to use the .tar.gz from real.com?11:38
aboodraphael,  then why when i try ti update my apt-get i got this msg " 500 Server Error [IP: 82.211.81.151 80] 11:39
aboodErr http://jo.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/restricted Packages11:39
abood  500 Server Error [IP: 82.211.81.151 80] 11:39
abood"11:39
hntshad0w1e, you want to use telnet as SSH client? or just replace the telnet port so that SSH is used?11:39
raphaelWell, that may be the problem then..11:39
aboodcan any body try to update it and tell me if its working or not right now11:39
shad0w1ewhen I use telnet on port 22, it says the protocol isnt compatible11:39
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hntshad0w1e, you can telnet to port 22 but this wouldnt help you much... you need to use ssh instead11:40
shad0w1eI've heard that telnet is insecure11:40
hntshad0w1e, instead of "telnet foo 22" better do.. "ssh user@foo"11:40
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shad0w1eis there any way to use telnet on an ssh server, and for it to be secure?11:40
Kartagisdeb http://tr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe11:41
Kartagisdeb-src http://tr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe <--- a line in my /etc/apt/sources.list and it works fine for me?11:41
hntshad0w1e, port 22 is SSH, there is no telnet there... telnet is port 23.11:41
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shad0w1ehnt: I realize that11:41
hntshad0w1e, you can "tunnel" telnet over an SSH connection but that does not make any sense then... why you want to stick with telnet so badly?11:41
shad0w1eis there any way to use telnet to access ssh?11:41
we2byI have vmware running, and my X run a bit slower when vmware is not running11:41
hntwell, no11:41
Kartagisanyway, I have to go11:41
we2byis this a probelmw ith ram or cpu?11:41
Kartagislater11:41
shad0w1ehnt: because telnet is installed everywher11:41
hntunless you are really good at the SSH protocol and encryption/decryption11:41
aboodguys does the apt-get running well now ?11:42
hntshad0w1e, so is ssh..11:42
shad0w1ehnt: not windows machines11:42
aboodcan any body try it and tell me the results ?11:42
hntshad0w1e, google putty11:42
shad0w1eyes i know11:42
shad0w1eyou have to DOWNLOAD THAT11:42
shad0w1eon every machine11:42
Kartagisabood: try what=11:42
shad0w1ei run around a lot11:42
hnttake it around on a USB drive :)11:42
shad0w1euse other peoples comps11:42
aboodKartagis, sudo apt-get update11:42
shad0w1ei have it on my fpash drive11:42
shad0w1ebut still...11:42
raphaelAch. Crivens.11:42
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Kartagis[00:42:42]  <Kabuto> !putty11:42
Kartagis[00:42:44]  <@f0und> putty, a nice ssh client for windows - available at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download11:42
shad0w1eif I do the tunnelling thing, does that kill security as well?11:42
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hntno.. but then u need an SSH client anyway11:43
shad0w1egrr11:43
KartagisFetched 1B in 2s (0B/s)11:43
KartagisReading package lists... Done11:43
hntthing like this, can you do FTP with telnet?11:43
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hntee, think even11:43
shad0w1eis there any way to use a telnet client on an ssh server?11:43
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hntNO11:43
shad0w1eok good11:43
shad0w1enever mind then11:43
hntunless you study SSH protocol and encryption/decryption..11:43
shad0w1ebeyond me..11:44
Kartagisyou can use AFTER you ssh in though11:44
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hntKartagis, he doesnt want to ssh in.. thats the whole point11:44
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Kartagistelnet is insecure11:44
Kartagisssh == *secure* shell11:44
shad0w1equestion: I have vsftpd installed and it works fine from a gui but not from the commad prompt. every time I type in "ls" , it just sits there11:44
Kartagiskeep that in mind shad0w1e11:45
hntshad0w1e, u behind firewall? use passive11:45
stonecrestwell.. i think ubuntu just gained another user :)11:45
hntmost likely ur GUI client is set to use passive FTP by def.11:45
shad0w1ewhy does it work from konqueror, or windows explorer, just dine?11:45
hntmost likely ur GUI client is set to use passive FTP by def. <-11:45
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shad0w1e200 PORT command successful. Consider using PASV.11:46
Kartagishnt: even if we keep 21 open?11:46
shad0w1eit hangs on that11:46
Th4tBa5t4rdI just finished a full install here... now i have to try and figure out how to install my chipset& video drivers11:46
pablo928just crashed ubuntu-couldn'tboot into gnome or kde but terminal and xfe were fine. rebooted linus and now i'm in gnome (my default11:46
iNFiDELslol, as for my initramfs error, NONE of your suggestions helped at all, so ive posted on the forums, thx for your help though.11:46
hntshad0w1e, like i said... use passive mode FTP11:46
hntKarlosII, what?11:46
hntsorry11:46
hntKartagis, what?11:46
shad0w1ehnt: ok, but how11:46
hntshad0w1e, depends on ur FTP client.. u using lftp or ftp? check the manpage..11:46
Kartagishnt: do we have to use passive mode even if port 21 is open?11:47
shad0w1eim using windows ftp11:47
hntKartagis, port 21 is always open with FTP... as long as u are logged in11:47
shad0w1eif its not using PASV, whats it using11:47
hntKartagis, but the way FTP works brings the trouble here... it will open a second connection TO you11:47
aboodKartagis, did u tried it, is it working or not ?11:47
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rj`man -- if only cgi scripts worked with ubuntu's apache211:47
rj`:((11:47
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Kartagisabood: I just pasted the results11:47
hntshad0w1e, hmm ftp /? maybe that tells u.. I aint touching windows DOSbox ftp with a 20 foot pole11:48
shad0w1eyes but I find myself on a windows box a lot, because I run around11:48
raDeonhnt, yes11:48
Juhazthe incoming port for active ftp is 20, not 2111:48
Kartagisrj`: it can, if you rebuild apache with cgi capabilities11:48
aboodKartagis, sorry i didnt followed them is it working ?11:48
hntraDeon, what yes?11:48
Kartagisabood: yes11:48
raDeonmade you say what11:48
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raDeonnyeahahahahahagha11:48
shad0w1efine so is there any way I can make it work without having to specify PASV every time?11:48
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rj`Kartagis: is there a guide on this?11:48
hntraDeon, :) PSYOPS11:48
vince_hello everyone! does anyone know if the xorg-driver-fglrx supports ati igp 320m (or mobility u1)? I am not sure I get good 3d acceleration, and 2d seems much slower than in Windows... thanks!11:48
raDeonvince_, yes11:49
Kartagisrj`: http://httpd.apache.org11:49
hntJuhaz, yup thats the dataconnection.. n this one mr shad0w1e aint getting11:49
ech0hey, do you guys know how to change the icon of a certain file type? (e.g. html documents)11:49
shad0w1ehnt: I have 20 and 21 open11:49
vince_raDeon, would you advise me to install it?11:49
ech0in gnome11:49
Kartagisech0: for good?11:49
ech0Kartagis, yes11:49
Quest-MasterWhat is the location of the directory of C header files that match Ubuntu's running kernel?11:49
hntshad0w1e, are you behind a firewall/nat/pat? did you forward 20 to your host? I can just tell you.. the ftp server already told u the answer to ur problem.. use passive mode11:50
raDeonvince_, no, i don't know but osmeone does11:50
vince_raDeon, ok11:50
hntQuest-Master, usually thats /usr/src/<urkernelversion>11:50
hntbut you gotta install them..11:50
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hntraDeon,11:51
shad0w1ehnt: pftp worked fine11:51
petersokI am having trouble installing Ubuntu on my new computer.  It seems to install fine, actually, but then the graphics do not run correctly (it looks sort of like an old NES game that needed cleaning).  Is this beause I am running two graphics cards in SLI mode?11:51
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hnthey raDeon11:51
Kartagishnt: do we need to redirect port 20 too in order not to have to use passive mode everytime?11:51
Quest-Masterhnt: how?11:51
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hntKartagis, nono.. dont do that; use PASV mode Ftp!!! that's why it is there11:52
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hntQuest-Master, use synaptic, the package is ummmm kernel-header something11:52
aboodguys, whats the proplem with apt-get , its give me like this shit "Fetched 17.0kB in 14s (1136B/s)11:52
aboodFailed to fetch http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports/dists/hoary-extras/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  403 Forbidden11:52
aboodFailed to fetch http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports/dists/hoary-extras/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  403 Forbidden11:52
abood" :(11:52
hntQuest-Master, sorry, linux-headers11:52
shad0w1ehnt: why do I need to use passive?11:52
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iceman2Khow to start linux with no network driver .. then load a module after the system is up ?11:53
Kartagishnt: but it can be done, right? because windoze command line ftp doesn't have -p switch11:53
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hntshad0w1e, are u behind a firewall, a PAT internet gateway?11:53
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shad0w1ehnt: no11:53
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shad0w1eI want to be able to use windows command line tool ftp though11:53
hntKartagis, well you could forward the port then but I wouldnt do that.. it is just stupid o.o use scp instead or so ;) WinSCP is nice11:53
Kartagisabood: why do you need backports.ubuntuforums.org? I don't think that's a repository11:53
norrbaggenanyone know why download speed in gaim with msn protokoll is so slow?11:53
Quest-Masterhnt: How do I know if I am running 2.6.10 or 2.6.11?11:54
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Fator_Deenorrbaggen: the protocoll sucks?11:54
hntshad0w1e, are u sure u are not behind a firewall? 100%? internet gateway box? linksys something?11:54
DekaPinkUbuntu has finished downloading~11:54
KartagisQuest-Master: uname -a11:54
raDeonwhat up hnt11:54
ShuddertrixQuest-Master: uname -r11:54
hntQuest-Master, uname -a11:54
norrbaggenyes, but in windows it is pretty fast11:54
shad0w1ehnt: pretty damn sure11:54
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hntraDeon, just trying to get ur attention ;D nanana :P11:54
shad0w1ehnt: wait, server or client?11:54
raDeonshut up11:54
raDeoni'll murder you11:54
hntraDeon, now Im really scared11:54
raDeongood11:55
hnt:D11:55
raDeonfear is our most primal emotion11:55
Kartagissomebody kick me, I need to go11:55
hntIll send u cleaning bill for my pants11:55
norrbaggenFator_Dee, im supposed to download faster then 3 kb/s downloading from a 100mbit and i got 10mbit11:55
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raDeonand i'll take the address off of it and hunt you down11:55
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aboodKartagis, i dont know i just try to do sudo apt-get update and its giving me this msg by it self never faced it before :( ???11:55
Kartagisargh, no ops11:55
hntshad0w1e, I asked... are YOU behind a firewall.. do you think I mean the server?11:55
Kartagisabood: wait11:55
hntraDeon, Ill ask u to paypal the money then11:55
shad0w1ehnt: yes , I most def. am11:55
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raDeonand i'll ask you to die.11:55
shad0w1eI'm behind an iptables firewall11:56
iceman2Kwell reinstall on wifes system ... sucks .. god forsaken net driver ...11:56
hntshad0w1e, well for fsck's sake that's what I was talking about all the time... -__-'' gee11:56
Fator_DeeraDeon: Fear is the mind killer. Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear at let it pass through me. And when my fear is gone only I will remain.11:56
hntraDeon, wow that wouldnt be nice ;(11:56
shad0w1ehnt: thats why ftp wont work without passive?11:56
raDeonfactor, we have nothing to fear but fear itself11:56
hntshad0w1e, BINGO!!!!!!!!! :D11:56
shad0w1eok cool11:56
shad0w1edo I need port 20 open on the server anyway?11:56
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hntshad0w1e, your GUI FTP clients all use passive mode so then it works "suddenly"... but the stupid Windos DOSbox FTP doesnt..11:57
Fator_DeeraDeon: and why do we have to fear fear?11:57
Kartagishttp://pastebin.com/292399 <--- abood copy this and change tr to whatever your countrycode is11:57
petersokHow do I boot ubuntu straight into the command line without running X?!11:57
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hntshad0w1e, dont forward anything, dont touch your iptables PAT setup... just find out how to use passive mode with the ftp, or use a decent client, unlike dos ftp11:57
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shad0w1ehnt: do I need to leave port 20 open on my ftp server if I wish to EVER use non-passive ftp ?11:58
hntshad0w1e, no need to change anything on the FTPserver either..11:58
Kartagisabood: are you with me?11:58
shad0w1ehnt: I'm forwarding 20 right now, I'm thinking of taking that away11:58
hntshad0w1e, where?11:58
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shad0w1eon my server11:58
hntshad0w1e, and which direction?11:58
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hntic..11:58
Kartagisleft11:58
aboodKartagis, yes, but which code i must change dude ?11:59
shad0w1ethe router forwards 20 to the linux server11:59
Kartagistr11:59
Kartagiswhat country do you live in11:59
aboodjordan11:59
abooddo i must put jo.11:59
shad0w1edo I "need" 20 for non-passive?11:59
hntshad0w1e, so there is a PAT or "masquerading" in front of ur server?11:59
Kartagisyes11:59
hntor in front of YOU11:59
shad0w1eME11:59
hntok..11:59

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