:) [04:08] opi: With moin markup, code snippets should be formatted as {{{ code snippet }}}. [04:11] mjg59: should I report acpi failure for laptops against the "acpi-support" pacakge? [04:15] mvo: What's the failure? [04:16] mjg59: s3/s4 not working [04:16] mvo: Not working how? [04:17] mjg59: I get the machine tomorrow, right now I'm just talking to a friend over jabber. s4 seems to bring the machine into sleep but when it comes back up it does not suspsend but do a normal boot. [04:18] pitti: nice, cool [04:18] mvo: Without knowing more about the issue, I can't say what it should be filed against [04:19] Pick something that looks likely and cc: me, and we can reassign it if necessary [04:19] mjg59: ok, thanks [04:20] woo, I think I have MountingHDDFilesystems working for the install CD [04:20] yay === spacey [~spacey@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:29] spiv: thanks! :) [04:39] Kamion: great :-) === jansen [~jansen@222.90.24.86] has joined #ubuntu-devel === wasabi_ [~wasabi@207.55.180.100] has joined #ubuntu-devel === du2br [nobody@du2br.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ozamosi [~ozamosi@80.252.171.200] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mvo [~Michael@ip181.135.1511I-CUD12K-01.ish.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jansen [~jansen@222.90.24.86] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:54] Kamion: you have MountingHDDFilesystems working for the install CD ? could you show me the code ? [04:59] beagle has non-PIC in shlibs too... === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:59] fabbione: linking with ld is wrong. [04:59] tseng: ping [04:59] that is, linking C with ld is wrong. linking C++ with gcc is also wrong === jk [~jochem@jkossen.nl] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === Echylo [~echylo@245-171.245.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:12] mantiena: the only parts of the code I haven't checked in yet are the partman-specific integration bits, that won't be much use to you anyway ... [05:12] mantiena: but that's http://riva.ucam.org/~cjwatson/tmp/auto_mountpoints [05:17] Kamion: thank you [05:21] the live CD should be trivial, I'm looking at that now [05:22] Kamion: cool, then I will learn baz and try to upload my casper improvements to mdz (he asked me several weeks ago for this) === stockholm [~andi@petrus.schuldei.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:24] s/weeks/months/ [05:25] Kamion: hehe, not more than 2 months, so I vote for weeks ;) [05:25] ogra: did you register for debconf and the debian-edu hacking? [05:25] or edubuntu hacking, if you want [05:25] where seb128 disappeared ? [05:27] mantiena, he is at guadec.... not always online if the listens to talks [05:27] (or probably just on the train back atm.) === Nafallo [~nafallo@nafallo.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Yvonne [~fsck@cn-sdm-cr02-0057.dial.kabelfoon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === koke [~koke@adsl229-164.unizar.es] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Mithrandir [~tfheen@vawad.err.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:39] Mithrandir: morning :-) [05:39] hi Nafallo === stockholm [~andi@petrus.schuldei.org] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [05:39] Mithrandir: firefox looks to be much better on amd64 with gcc-3.4 [05:39] thom: like, not crashing if you move your mouse? [05:39] yeah, like that [05:39] yay! [05:40] thom: that's _really_ good news :-) [05:40] hey thom no guadec for you ? [05:40] thom: so we're just going to go with gcc-3.4 for now and wait until somebody else cleans up the mess? [05:40] i thought you planned to come too [05:41] hi ogra [05:41] hey Mithrandir === dand [~dand@83.103.205.136] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:41] how's gu6dec? [05:41] ogra: sadly not [05:42] Mithrandir: yeah, i think so [05:42] Mithrandir, i'm already home again... but it was great :) [05:42] ogra: it's until tomorrow, isn't it? [05:42] nope until today [05:42] ogra: you're going home instead of the parties? ;-) === KaiL_ [KaiL@p548F5DA7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:44] Some sort of postinst hook which recycled metacity/gnome-panel/nautilus/etc would be interesting. 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[07:00] lamont: xtrans built + accepted -> libice built + accepted -> libsm built + accepted -> xorg built + accepted [07:06] ok [07:08] daniels: of course, if you had used versioned build-deps, my life would be easier... === lamont makes a note to go kick libice in a bit [07:08] xtrans 0.2+cvs.20050513-1 is the right version? or is that the old one? [07:10] lamont: 20050530-1 [07:11] man, how did i ever live with any less bandwidth than 1.5mbit === Lathiat_ is now known as Lathiat [07:17] ok === ubuntulog [~warthylog@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Topic for #ubuntu-devel: Ubuntu Development | #ubuntu for support and general discussion | #ubuntu-love for getting involved | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DeveloperResources | Ubuntu 5.04 is released! | MOM is awake! | Colony CD 1 released | gcc4 transition finished, breezy probably well broken, uploads of C++ packages in universe restricted === Topic (#ubuntu-devel): set by doko at Mon May 30 15:18:28 2005 === Unfrgiven [~ankur@202.76.176.94] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ajmitch [~ajmitch@port162-41.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ubuntulog [~warthylog@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Topic for #ubuntu-devel: Ubuntu Development | #ubuntu for support and general discussion | #ubuntu-love for getting involved | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DeveloperResources | Ubuntu 5.04 is released! | MOM is awake! | Colony CD 1 released | gcc4 transition finished, breezy probably well broken, uploads of C++ packages in universe restricted === Topic (#ubuntu-devel): set by doko at Mon May 30 15:18:28 2005 [10:00] (dholbach/#ubuntu-devel) mdz: i'm going to reply to the mail (you CCed me in) and point to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseNewPackages (packages that got into ubuntu and may be picked up by debian developers) [10:01] dholbach: ok, and please also discuss whether it is appropriate to file ITPs for those packages [10:01] mdz: i'll try to make up an opinion first :) [10:02] lamont: can you please grab http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/993_hppa_has_no_dri.diff , stick it in debian/patches and do a full rebuild? [10:02] fabbione: once the current build finishes... [10:02] lamont: sure === tarvid [~tarvid@68-67-192-202.chvlva.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:04] meh actuallt [10:04] that should be INCLUDES [10:05] lamont: ok.. same patch with proper names :) === camilotelles [~Camilo@200.128.80.254] has joined #ubuntu-devel === seb128 [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-12-101.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:08] ogra, rumor has it that you can recommend some modems [10:08] serial ports are disappearing [10:08] tarvid, who gave you that idea ? [10:09] i suppose a USB modem would have some appeal for both desktop and laptop [10:09] ogra, venda suggested you might know about searchable hardware databases [10:09] fabbione: previous build is mid-install now, so should be able to do the other shortly [10:09] lamont: i have no rush really.... [10:09] granted [10:09] lamont: but i can't test the patch locally [10:09] tarvid, i maintain the hardware DB, but its not searchable yet :/ sadly.... [10:10] i saw hints of conexant support but read of nightmares [10:10] usb modems require a kernel with support [10:10] i don't know if Ubuntu has that by default [10:11] i recently dodged a nic problem with my old thinkpad by replacing the mini-pci nic [10:12] looking for a modem which works out of the box [10:13] ogra: do you mantain the hardware database? how can we contribute to it? where is the docs? === JaneW [~JaneW@wbs-146-163-161.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:15] tarvid: unless its a serial modem id ont think any winmodems etc work out of the box, but some can be easily configured with sl-modem-daemon/appoprriate kernel modules [10:15] sl is short for SmartLink? [10:16] tarvid, sorry, but the data is only in flatfile yet, so grepping through the ~40000 files would take half a day currently.... i work on a SQL solution...but that takes its time [10:16] i hear rumors of USB modems working if kernel support is present [10:16] camilotelles, just run it in ubuntu and it will load your feedback into the database [10:17] is that in the default kernel? [10:17] mdke: thanks, where is the docs about this? [10:18] camilotelles, the client is in Applications->System Tools [10:18] camilotelles, no idea, but the program is super intuitive [10:18] god damn it why does visudo default to nano? that's just evil and wrong [10:19] elmo: it uses sensible-editor, iirc [10:19] camilotelles, there ae no docs yet [10:19] elmo, dch defaults to nano ;) [10:20] thanks all. === pizzathief [~Ilikepizz@adsl-130-26.swiftdsl.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:20] we have just received two new machines. We will try to run Ubuntu in both. One of these has a SATA RAID Array [10:22] s/has a SATA RAID Array/ has a VIA SATA RAID Array/ [10:22] Wow, lintian goes nuts if your postinst's first line is "#/bin/sh" by accident. =) [10:23] hehe [10:24] tseng|work: can you join us in #ubuntu-meeting if you're around? === thesaltydog [~pippo@62.211.45.42] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === SchmeisserMartin [~udssr@F736b.f.ppp-pool.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:27] ok i just let my flatmate use my ubuntu computer. He was using a pen drive and couldn't figure out how to unmount it before removing it. He right clicked and got "unmount volume", which he didn't understand. Perhaps that should be changed to something more obvious? [10:27] i just tried to join here with 'cd #ubuntu-devel' [10:27] :-) [10:27] mdke: you have a point [10:27] mdke: volume is a nice precise technical term, but makes no sense to non-techs [10:27] diamond, yeah, although i still took the piss out of him [10:28] mdke: -) [10:28] diamond, so is "unmount" [10:28] mdke: ah. again, a good point. didn't even blink an eyelid at that one ,-) [10:28] im trying to compile wired cause i want to try it and someone did a packaging request for it [10:28] mdke: i reckon that counts as a bug [10:29] make complains about something with wx...but im not that experienced ;-) ...can someone help? [10:29] i randomly installed all wxwidget stuff i could find [10:30] diamond, me too === Loevborg [~loevborg@d38-126.dip.isp-service.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:30] Mithrandir: pingage [10:30] jnc: pongtastic. === venda [~sean@ndn-165-138-57.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === St0n3-C0l [~stone@St0n3-c0l.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:31] mako: you there? Need answers to questions on licensing issues [10:31] anyone here can help me with i810 video card ? [10:31] Mithrandir: openoffice.org printing broke again for am64, FYI [10:31] jnc: I'm slightly aware of it, but haven't gotten around to fixing it yet. [10:31] Mithrandir: it was working lovely after you fixed it, then it done gone and broke with some breezy updates ;) [10:32] Mithrandir: 'k [10:32] jnc: I just need to update the package [10:32] Mithrandir: is it something i could hack real quick? maybe a good addition for wiki [10:33] jnc: download the ooo-amd64 source package, do BUILD=0 sh ./fetch-and-build then dpkg-buildpackage and it should work. [10:33] it'll download half the universe, though [10:33] Mithrandir: do you ahve time to take care of Ante? I'm working on mkaign cdimage.d.o hold together for the upcoming release [10:33] elmo: what version is docteam svn at? [10:34] Mithrandir: with a 400gb drive, i hear you can download the whole internet [10:34] :) [10:34] maswan: yes, I'm just asking people to Cc you so you're in the loop. I'm handling them. [10:34] jnc: /dev/cciss/c1d0p1 1.4T 604G 793G 44% /export/ftpmirror [10:34] jnc: good luck? :) === jnc drools [10:34] Mithrandir: ah, good, thanks [10:34] wow [10:34] mdz: (no, I didn't upload it, but I guess you found that out) [10:34] jnc: /dev/md0 1,8T 569G 1,2T 33% /backup/backup0 [10:35] jnc: that's all available via http, so you better have a good compression algorithm. :) [10:35] s/jnc/maswan/. :P [10:35] maswan: what would you suggest for a 1-2TiB size raid5 array? i want redundancy for massive amounts of CC licensed music [10:35] i mean, what filesystem [10:35] mdz: we did briefly build live CDs, but the cloops were being built against hoary instead of breezy by accident, last I checked [10:35] jnc: ext3 works fine for me. [10:35] lamont: what's the live CD status now? did that get fixed? [10:35] good to know [10:35] lamont: is someone other than you up to speed on the livefs build process (enough to get builds happening for breezy)? [10:35] jnc: ext3 unless you need performance, then I'd go for xfs personally. but I have heard that some modern kernels have xfs issues. [10:35] Kamion: last I looked it was still haveing challenges with ubuntu-* (for some value of *) [10:35] I'll check on it. [10:36] (perfromance = >100MByte/s) [10:36] mdz: I think infinity is, but I'll make sure of that === gustavor [~gustavo@32.104.18.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:37] Mithrandir: /dev/sdf1 1.4T 1.4T 17G 99% /export/se1 [10:37] Mithrandir: work stuff. :) [10:37] maswan: nicey. :) [10:38] maswan: the other thing i'm looking for suggestions on is what drive configuration to go with. six 400GB drives? whether to use a hot spare or not [10:38] I repacked the libx11-dev & libx11-6 packages with the keys patch (ctrl key bug...) https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/attachment.cgi?id=2552. I have called it libx11-6_6.8.2-20-1. is it a good version number ? [10:38] this is just for like, personal stuff. [10:38] sorry to interrupt the meeting;) [10:38] i'm worried that a drive will fail and i'll lose everything :/ [10:39] jnc: I'd go for a hot spare, unless you have a cold spare and are fairly sure to get access within a day if a disk fails [10:39] dbernar1_: you're my hero [10:39] i've been sending email messages prematurely for weeks [10:39] why? [10:40] jnc: try to get drives from different production series [10:40] Mithrandir: ah, good idea [10:40] jnc: but then, I have seen way too many disks fail at work to be comfortable with them at all. :) [10:40] jnc: also, backups are good, raid or no raid [10:40] jnc: and make sure to run them for at least a few weeks before putting anything interesting on them. [10:40] dbernar1_: Ctrl+X maps out to "send message" in evo when the broken xorg-x11 key problem is effective [10:40] yea [10:41] Mithrandir: make that months... :-( [10:41] lamont: that stuff should be fine now (this half-hour, anyway) according to http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/testing/breezy_probs.html [10:41] i'm very impressed with seagate drives for quiet noise levels and solid performance [10:41] jnc, thank you, I will tell the guy that was your answer to his question:-p === gub [~gub@pouet.dnsalias.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:42] hi [10:43] dbernar1_: sending half-finished emails has gotten me some blank looks and strange replies :) [10:43] I repacked the libx11-dev & libx11-6 breezy packages with the keys patch (ctrl key bug...) https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/attachment.cgi?id=2552. [10:43] gub...your question has been asked here. [10:43] I have called it libx11-6_6.8.2-20-1. is it a good version number ? [10:43] ok thanks :) [10:44] Kamion: goodie === lamont launches a test build [10:45] dbernar1_: it's better you avoid that... probably 6.8.2-20.0.1 [10:45] you're my hero & Ctrl+X maps out to "send message" in evo when the broken xorg-x11 key problem is effective were the answers [10:45] and that one above from fabbione . [10:45] it's on http://hybrid-dev.net/ubuntu breezy main. === tseng|work heads home [10:45] fabbione: ok [10:46] i'll change that === jnc blinks [10:46] i'm surrounded by robots? [10:47] jnc: ?? [10:47] who gave us away? [10:47] *snicker* [10:51] mvo! [10:51] mvo: your python-apt upload was unsigned, please resign + try again [10:51] elmo: argggg [10:51] elmo: trying a newer version of rsync now that is supposed to have a bit more talking-to-the-other-side stuff. :) [10:52] elmo: sorry for the trouble. looks like it's not my day today [10:52] elmo: see /msg :/ [10:52] dbernar1_: I'd call it 6.8.2-20keys1 or some such [10:52] -20.0.1 is bad, since the archive stuff thinks that's a binNMU [10:52] mvo: no prob, I've been waiting for an upload to test some katie changes [10:53] lamont: ... I just changed the name :) [10:53] version number* [10:53] maswan: cool [10:53] elmo: uploaded (signed this time) [10:54] lamont: with this number, is it working for uprade ? [10:54] I mean with 6.8.2-20keys1 [10:57] gub: will work for upgrade [10:57] since -21 is bigger than -20keys1 which is bigger than -20 [10:58] (see also all the -NNNubuntuM versions in the archive...) === HiddenWolf [~hidden@136.134.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:06] maswan: are there higher performance network filesystems than NFS? [11:06] fabbione: -20.2 building with your patch now [11:06] lamont: cool [11:06] i have been unhappy with the speed provided by NFS in my setup, and I am unsure if that is due to NFS itself or the settings I have in use [11:08] lamont: is the debconf build stuck? === darkling [~hugo@81-5-136-19.dsl.eclipse.net.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:09] jnc: nfs over udp and async should be limited by your network bandwidth. === maswan tries to remember the other parameters [11:10] lamont: ? [11:10] maswan: wsize, rsize? [11:10] jnc: Personally, I've done 2.5Gbit/s over nfs, but that was from ram. :) [11:10] jnc, have rsize=8192,wsize=8192 ? [11:11] Mithrandir: ah, yeah. [11:11] gub: yes? [11:11] Kamion: looking [11:12] Kamion: remind me not to d-w on an arch: all package. grumble === LinuxJones [~willy@blk-222-221-81.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:12] (and fixed) [11:12] lamont: libqt-perl isn't arch: all? [11:13] lamont: (thanks) [11:13] Kamion: could just be that I'm clueless today... :-) [11:13] anyway, the d-w didn't clear for me, so I whacked it on the head [11:13] k [11:13] elmo: no luck. with truss we've found out that we're done stating everything locally and then just select() for some minutes and then get Connection timed out === Kamion -> off for a bit [11:13] elmo: and no other mirror has any problems? === SchmeisserMartin [~udssr@F736b.f.ppp-pool.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:15] maswan: nope, but not many people mirror off of this box [11:15] i got my problem solved. wired seems to want wxgtk2.6 [11:15] elmo: I guess we're alone with AIX 5.1 and GPFS for mirroring anyway. :) [11:16] heh [11:16] is there a good reason why the seeds aren't cachereved? Apart from "nobody has done it"? === venda [~sean@ndn-165-138-57.telkomadsl.co.za] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === ogra has the first green BreezyGoal :-D [11:19] gj there! [11:19] ogra: hmm [11:19] elmo: mind if I set up another mirror and setup a proxy thingie there? [11:19] maswan: hmm, how do you mean? another mirror mirroring off syncproxy? [11:20] mdz: If you're doing initramfs stuff, I've just sent 0.5 on its way. It includes a number of fixes that you'll want. [11:20] ogra: congrats. w/re NFS, is that rsize thing on the client side or server side? [11:20] elmo: yeah, for a week or two [11:20] elmo: and then ftp.acc updating from that [11:20] jnc, mount option in the fstab [11:20] good night [11:20] maswan: sure, no prob [11:21] ogra: ah, i'm using the 'autofs' to mount an NFS share from debian GNU/Linux box server to the Ubuntu Linux client here [11:21] i don't think it has that option [11:21] jbailey: ok, am going to try to work on LTSP today [11:22] ogra: then again, i have checked `mount` and it shows [11:22] elmo: even if currently my main project is debian-cd :) [11:22] elmo: or rather, the building and mirroring stuff there === jnc points to output from mount "rw,nosuid,nodev,hard,intr,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,addr=192.168.6.3" for ogra [11:22] jnc, ah, ok [11:23] jnc, so youre using it [11:24] yeah looks like it heh [11:24] oh well, it's not a big deal [11:24] i'm thinking for the future if i have many terabytes of info i should expect more performance [11:26] jnc: you might want to add proto=udp, nfsvers=3 ? [11:26] interesting [11:27] I'm not totally sure on this right now though, I'm not the nfs-tuning-guy at work. :) === jnc =) [11:28] thanks though [11:28] i wanted to hear if i'm crazy or not for thinking NFS could be faster [11:29] jnc: as I said, from ram I've served nfs at 300MByte/s :) [11:30] jnc: that was mostly to test link aggregation though [11:34] ogra! is that green for real!? [11:34] yep [11:34] WOOHOO! [11:34] waiting only for the archive sync [11:34] hi all === faux [~faux@1-1-4-21a.gkp.gbg.bostream.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:35] doko: pong [11:35] JaneW, mono is also near the green state... it got moved to main... but still has bugs to work on [11:36] BOOGS [11:36] fabbione: no go on your patch [11:36] so ostly of the specced work is done [11:36] make it yellow [11:36] it is [11:36] yay [11:36] lamont: bong... [11:36] yellow-green? [11:36] heh [11:36] want the log again fabbione [11:36] ? [11:36] did the -I../../../.... get included in the call? [11:36] lamont: yes please === gub [~gub@pouet.dnsalias.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:37] fabbione: did you do the lm-sensors upload? [11:38] fabbione: people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/x/xorg/6.8.2-20/xorg_6.8.2-20.2_20050531-1453-hppa-failed.bz2 === pixelmonkey [~pixelmonk@ool-4572767c.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:38] mdz: when??? === lamont feels slightly dirty. [11:38] fabbione: 1:2.9.0-19ubuntu1 [11:38] the .dsc is signed with your key [11:38] fabbione: didn't actually look to see what happened... [11:38] I noticed that Ubuntu 5.04 has a "Hibernate this computer" option in the gnome menu. I was wondering what gconf key I can set to enable that on my system (which was upgraded from Warty) [11:38] mdz: probably.. i can't remember === lamont gets ready to go into town for several hours === JaneW is buying you a beer next week! [11:39] I can't tell if this is a default GNOME option or if it was added by the Ubuntu team [11:39] fabbione: it looks like you dropped some of the ubuntu changes (specifically removing the kernel-source build-deps) [11:40] mdz: hmmmm ok.. i did a long time ago.. i really can't remember... [11:40] pixelmonkey, i also upgraded from warty and I do have that option in the logout-dialoge. [11:40] i will add it to my TODO list for tomorrow [11:40] kent, yea, I think it really is just a gconf option that enables it [11:40] kent, but I don't see it documented anywhere [11:41] kent, I have swsusp2 working, it'd just be nice to have the option in the logout menu [11:41] argh [11:41] how do I get irssi not match on nicks? [11:41] fabbione: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 21:36:28 +0100 [11:41] every time pixelmonkey speaks I get spammed [11:41] fabbione: thanks [11:41] mdz: no problem.. [11:42] elmo, wow, that is some primitive matching it does, eh? :) pixELMOnkey [11:42] lamont: well apparently it didn't like #if defined(__hppa__) [11:43] elmo: can you promote partman-auto-lvm to main? it seems to be non-trivial [11:43] <\sh> guys...there r some issues with python-qt3 (main) and eric3 (universe), they should get some lovely updates for hoary... === g14 [~g14@c-67-171-59-176.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:44] mdz: done, but FTRT, do source and binary separately to work around that prob [11:44] elmo: ok, thanks [11:45] elmo: also, xpdf seems to be in a weird state: E: /srv/ftp.no-name-yet.com/ftp/pool/main/x/xpdf/xpdf_3.00.orig.tar.gz (main/xpdf - breezy) already exists! [11:45] mdz: you're promiting it? :/ [11:46] elmo: we will have to test it in the early release cycle [11:46] you can't demote, promote shared-between-suites without manual scariness ATM, I'm afraid [11:46] fabbione: test? [11:46] elmo: installerlvmbydefault [11:47] or something like that [11:47] oh, yeah [11:47] it needs partman-auto-lvm [11:48] mdz: btw, did trulux/ajmitch ever ask you about approval to put the selinux-patched base packages into breezy? [11:48] elmo: I don't think we have a choice; kpdf needs it [11:49] pitti: no [11:49] mdz: I tested them for three weeks now (just the patched packages, without any policy and disabled selinux) [11:49] mdz: so far there is only one regresssion that ajmitch works on [11:49] pitti: I don't have a problem with it in general, but I would like to see the list first [11:49] mdz: yes, of course [11:50] mdz: it touches essential parts of the base system (dpkg, pam, etc.), so if we do it, it is early breakage [11:50] lamont: simpler patch: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/993_hppa_has_no_dri.diff [11:50] pitti: right [11:50] pitti: I am most concerned about dpkg [11:50] ajmitch: can you compile a list of affected pacakges? === JaneW [~JaneW@wbs-146-163-161.telkomadsl.co.za] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] [11:50] mdz: poppler based alternative isn't viable? [11:50] my understanding is that we do not even have the code for dpkg yet [11:50] elmo: wanna write one? [11:50] mdz: oh, we have [11:50] pitti: what regression? I dislike to get ignored on those things concerning my work [11:51] mdz: no, but daniels made getting motif to work sound equally non-trivial [11:51] mdz: AFAIUI Majoy and Keybuk have working patches [11:51] fabbione: nice bat you have there.. :-) [11:51] pitti: sure, I will [11:51] fabbione: you want me to test that one? [11:51] mdz: and Keybuk wanted to apply the patch soon anyway [11:51] mdz: dpkg patch is working fine [11:51] lamont: yes please.. if you have time [11:51] elmo: we could disable the reader and provide only the utilities, but that's sort of nasty, isn't it [11:51] trulux: the pam breakage we talked about, that kills sudo [11:52] Riddell: can anything be done about the xpdf-utils dependency on kpdf? [11:52] trulux: that wasn't exactly your fault, I didn't blame you :-) [11:52] trulux: the one I told you about, you're not being ignored === lamont creates -20.3 [11:52] ajmitch: sorry, just migraines again and it's hard to deal with all the stuff [11:52] mdz, Riddel: maybe we can make kpdf use poppler, just as we did with cups? [11:52] ogra: serpentine fails to actually burn a CD [11:52] trulux: best to step away from the computer when you feel like that :) [11:53] you lose ;) [11:53] jnc: worked for me last time I tried it :) [11:53] interesting [11:53] pitti: how did you do it with cups? is there a poppler-utils or similar somewhere? [11:53] ajmitch: GnomeBaker works for me [11:53] ajmitch: yeah, I know, but I need to have a kernel patch finished today and it's simple stuff [11:53] mdz: *shrug*, I'm not heavily vested, I'm just saying xpdf wasn't removed 'cos it's unpretty [11:53] jnc, file a bug please [11:53] ogra: will do [11:53] jnc: works for me(tm) :-) [11:53] mdz: no, not so far; I basically ported pdf2ps from xpdf-utils to libpoppler [11:53] and assign it to hostmaster@grawert.net [11:53] ajmitch: how are things going? [11:53] mpt: ping [11:53] elmo: I would very much like to support only one copy of xpdf [11:53] fabbione: build launched, and I need to leave. [11:54] pitti: where did you put it? [11:54] back in about 7 hours or so. :-( [11:54] mdz: I patched the pdf2ps.c code that is already in cups [11:54] oh [11:54] and i need to go to sleep :) [11:54] lamont: you will tell me later :) [11:54] mdz: so it's in /usr/lib/cups/pdftops right now [11:54] right [11:54] mdz: done [11:54] ooh maybe i will then be able to send faxes === surak [~kurumin@200.128.80.254] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [11:55] that would be awesome [11:55] elmo: done what? [11:55] mdz: I didn't port the whole xpdf-utils suite so far [11:55] pitti: I think kpdf probably uses pdftops too [11:55] jnc, i have 5 reports of successfull burns from different ppl for now, you are the first for whom it failed.... [11:55] pitti: so maybe we should add it to poppler and ship a package of poppler-based utilities? [11:55] mdz: if we can reuse it, we should create a poppler-utils [11:55]