[12:10] has anyone else also problems loggin into our wiki? === zoop81 [~mika@nat-ph3-wh.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:20] ok, created new account, works again [12:26] gn8, folks === HiddenWolf [~hidden@136.134.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:28] Ok, jongens [12:28] geloofscrisis [12:28] http://www.symphonyos.com/desktop.html === HiddenWolf is onder de indruk [12:29] dinner time, l8r all [12:30] sorry, didn't tab right. [12:30] That was dutch, and ment for #u-nl === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pf-guest [~pf-guest@rhhe30-32.2wcm.comporium.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:37] can anyone help a fool who fogot his usrname during a protracted move from one state to another?????? [01:39] :( I guess not *sigh* [01:45] hi all [01:45] im just building anjuta for gcc4. it builds cleanly [01:46] and doesnt require any packages. do i need to do anything for this app? === thom [~thom@amnesiac.heapspace.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [01:56] Unfrgiven: nope [01:56] bummer.. :( [01:57] so are we only really concerned with libs? [01:57] be back soon... got a meeting [01:57] yes, just libs at the moment === ajmitch will bbl also === StR [~str@216.230.136.242] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:22] Hi there... [02:23] anyone here could helo me with the gmailfs status? === mgalvin [~mgalvin@cpe-69-205-46-35.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StR [~str@216.230.136.242] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StoneTable [~stone@c-67-184-135-68.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:55] oh man there goes my productivity [02:55] got mythtv going again [03:03] poor tseng [03:06] tseng: I'm ordering my new laptop [03:10] schweeb: good [03:10] schweeb: your old one sucks [03:10] anyone know what this error means...description-synopsis-starts-with-an-article [03:10] zul: probably it starts with an article [03:10] A, The.. right? [03:10] heh...yeah [03:11] tseng: getting an X41, fully loaded [03:11] schweeb: rock on [03:11] then, my friend [03:11] THEN [03:11] I can start working on packages again [03:12] yeah right [03:12] slacker [03:12] hehe [03:12] I finally got my work VPN access, so things will be goin a lot easier === Burgundavia [~corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia_ [~corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [~jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === [Chameleon] is back (gone 15:58:48) [04:29] [Chameleon] , please turn that off [04:31] <[Chameleon] > Burgundavia: interesting... two channels I get a warm welcome, and one I get "please turn that off". [04:32] [Chameleon] , imagine if everybody had one of those things going [04:32] the signal noise ration would be horrendous [04:32] <[Chameleon] > Burgundavia: does everybody? [04:33] <[Chameleon] > Burgundavia: Just for you, I have configured it to be silent on channels with more than 30 users [04:33] <[Chameleon] > ... I think... [04:33] <[Chameleon] > let me test it === [Chameleon] is away: I'm busy === [Chameleon] is back (gone 00:00:04) [04:33] heh === aisipos [~anton@dsl081-081-225.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:33] <[Chameleon] > Burgundavia: did you see it? [04:33] yep [04:33] go nuts [04:33] and I saw it #ubuntu as well [04:34] <[Chameleon] > well, either it requires a restart or it just doesn't work. [04:34] <[Chameleon] > I think I have just turned it off... [04:35] <[Chameleon] > I just went away and back [04:35] <[Chameleon] > and I don't think it printed [04:35] <[Chameleon] > Burgundavia: confirm? [04:35] yes, i didn't see it that time [04:35] <[Chameleon] > Burgundavia: happy now? [04:35] yes [04:35] thank you [04:36] <[Chameleon] > yeah === moyogo [~moyogo@69.156.166.86] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [~robitaill@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === danko123456 [~dbernar1@wnpgmb02dc1-57-251.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:46] can I ask this question here: whats the difference between universe and multiverse? [05:46] universe is open source software and multiverse is closed source. [05:46] thank you. [05:46] danko123456: no probs :) [05:46] kk:) === danko123456 [~dbernar1@wnpgmb02dc1-57-251.dynamic.mts.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [05:51] <\sh> morning [05:54] night :) [05:55] <\sh> :)) === crimmy [~dtchen@66-188-198-87.roc.mn.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:32] \sh: hey, how you doing? [07:57] <\sh> re [08:03] re?!? [08:04] (re-hi) [08:05] ah right ) [08:05] :) [08:06] Unfrgiven, hey [08:06] ive got a problem with a pacakage i'm testing for the c++ transition. its called ocaml-nox but all other packages that depend on it depend on "ocaml-nox-3.08". in other words the maintainers have put the specific version number in the name. IMO this needs to be changed. does that sound ok? i'm going to remove the version number from the package name and the depends will become "ocaml-nox (>= 3.08)" [08:06] jsgotangco: hey dude. how r u? [08:06] not bad [08:06] playing around with moin [08:06] heh [08:07] jsgotangco: moin rocks :) [08:08] Unfrgiven, ive been trying about apache2 and moin on hoary [08:08] its been pretty seamless with apache2 [08:08] jsgotangco: just to let you know that I have been doing work on the intro developer docs... not ready for review yet but im still chugging away at it. [08:08] oohhh [08:08] that's great [08:08] i think i should update the wiki [08:08] just in case [08:09] Unfrgiven: that seems really, really odd. [08:09] Unfrgiven: are all those packages really strongly version-dependent? [08:10] crimmy: yeah i was shocked. you can try it yourself... try apt-get install ocaml-findlib" [08:10] crimmy: doesnt seem like it. and even if they were, its still the wrong way to do it [08:10] Unfrgiven: what does the Debian maintainer say? [08:10] any pacakge dependant on ocaml-nox is uninstallable... [08:11] crimmy: i havent e-mailed him yet. ill do so today [08:11] I would have ocaml-nox-3.08 provide ocaml-nox and thus have all packages depend on ocaml-nox [08:11] BUT that's only if those packages aren't strongly version-dependent [08:12] why not call it ocaml-nox and have a depends in other packages as "ocaml-nox (= 3.08)"? [08:12] <\sh> first of all....I need a coffeine and some nicotine [08:12] its a real mess === DanielN [~KodiaK@162.23.4.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:13] hi folks :) [08:13] crimmy: im thinking that im just going to clean up the packages for ubuntu anyway... as it is they are not currently installable [08:14] DanielN: hi :) [08:14] heres a general question, when we package an app for ubuntu by using a debian package, do we need to change the "Maintainer" field in the control file? [08:15] no [08:15] Changed-by will be done automatically [08:15] ok. but in the changelog we put our own name right? [08:15] yes [08:16] you could just call it ocaml-nox and have those packages depend on that = version, sure [08:16] you really need to work that out with the Debian maintainer [group] [08:16] crimmy: thats the plan. [08:16] i will e-mail them... but i do think that they've stuffed something up here... because the packages are totally not installable (not on ubuntu or debian( [08:17] ouou [08:18] i need help [08:18] DanielN: what can we help you with? :) [08:18] i've got a file, beginning with '\' and i need it know, but i can't copy it from console (only having console) [08:19] '\\'? [08:19] no only \filename.sxw [08:19] i meant, have you tried "cp \\filename.sxw blah" [08:19] yeah [08:19] ah [08:20] not yet ;) [08:20] haha :) [08:20] haha [08:20] working [08:20] thanks a lot :) [08:20] np [08:20] <\sh> jesus [08:20] <\sh> i fixed arkrpg [08:21] \sh: congrats! [08:21] excellent [08:21] \sh: i read your blog... it sounded painful [08:21] <\sh> yeah [08:21] <\sh> first of all, autotools sh*t and then g++ source errors :( [08:22] \sh: now i just hope that someone actually uses it :) [08:22] autotools is always crack [08:22] <\sh> Unfrgiven: i don't mind :) but at least, we can go on with the universe cxx trans === aisipos [~anton@dsl081-081-225.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:26] \sh: while everyone is here i may as well ask. whats the best way to identify packages that need love for the c++ transition. im talking universes specific. is it only stuff on the CXXLibraryList wiki page that doesn't have a "who" assigned? beucase i don't think that list has all the packages... [08:26] <\sh> Unfrgiven: well, most of it is on this list [08:27] <\sh> Unfrgiven: the rest we will take care about it later..first all libs must be done, then we need to see about the apps [08:28] \sh: ok... === Unfrgiven goes universe lib hunting... [08:47] \sh: it think i've fixed your requests now, uploaded :) [08:50] <\sh> DanielN: will check it later...need to fix some dtv issues here [08:52] no problem .. just wanted to inform you :) === astharot [~isager@host250-27.pool62110.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [~gervystar@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chmj [~d3vic3@dumbledore.hbd.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:27] does someone know, who to ping for ALSA related questions? === fwiffo [~fwiffo@dhcpserver0.oersted.dtu.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DanielN [~KodiaK@162.23.4.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pitti [~pitti@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ralph [~ralph@dsl-234.123.240.220.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thoreauputic [~prospero@wolax6-148.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DanielN_ [~KodiaK@162.23.4.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DanielN_ is now known as DanielN [10:22] Cxx transition: is "just" rebuilding c++ packages with gcc4 ? [10:28] <\sh> not "just"..:) [10:29] <\sh> for g++ libs u have to rename the lib pkgs [10:32] ok [10:33] if you think i'm able to do some work there, i would help:) === mbeattie [~mbeattie@ool-4355f1f7.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:54] DanielN, just pick a package, read the wiki pages, and file a bug report together with the patch === GheRivero [~ghe@hiscpdprx01.upsa.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:03] doko: and if no patch is required to build? [11:03] which package? [11:03] just for example [11:04] for a library, there's always a patach needed [11:04] aha [11:04] ok .. i think i have to read a bit more about [11:04] :) [11:05] and how i try to build with gcc4? pbuilder i.e. ? === ivoks [~ivoks@lns01-0759.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:07] <\sh> DanielN: in the end, u should have luck and everything is easy :) but if you find a package like arkrpg then you should sit early in the morning with classic music and the gcc-3.4 g++ changes documentation on the toilet and reading ;) [11:07] DanielN, just setup a breezy chroot [11:08] DanielN, pickup the cppopt package, looks like an easy one [11:08] doko: pbuilder won't suffice? [11:08] \sh: sounds like fun ;) [11:09] sure, if it runs in a breezy environment [11:09] it does :) [11:13] doko: so i'll try cppopt :) [11:19] hmm === dahane [~dahane@c228160.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:22] doko: so i must do a patch only for renaming the package? [11:22] DanielN: yes [11:24] doko: and this happens like a normal patch? [11:24] but only diff debian/controll? === spacey [~spacey@145.33.144.138] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dahane [~dahane@c160240.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:29] DanielN, depends on the package [11:29] yeah [11:29] i should have it now .. looked over some other patches to get it :) [11:31] you know https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BreezyToolchainTransition ? === herzi [~herzi@host-214-220.conf.guadec.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:31] yep === opi [~emil@nat0.mnc.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:33] morning :-) [11:33] hey [11:33] <\sh> ok...eris is passed [11:34] Eris? [11:34] <\sh> arkrpg ia64 compilation not ready... [11:34] <\sh> liberis-1.2 [11:34] <\sh> oh did i say, i fixed all errors in arkrpg this morning? ;) === Nafallo [~nafallo@nafallo.user] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:36] \sh: it's now officially bug-free ? [11:37] \sh: you did?! ROCK! [11:37] \sh: what was it? [11:37] <\sh> Treenaks: i don't know, but now it's officially "compiling on my machine without errors" [11:38] <\sh> siretart: read my blogentry...I figured out, that listening to vanessa mae and her interpretation of vivaldi and reading g++ changes is good for better understanding [11:39] <\sh> siretart: the c++ errors were really easy in the end :) [11:40] <\sh> http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-3.4/changes.html#cplusplus [11:40] <\sh> search in this document for: Using a name introduced by a typedef in a friend declaration or in an explicit instantiation is now rejected, as specified by the ISO C++ standard. [11:40] <\sh> and u find the solution after this sentence [11:42] puh. you absolutly rock [11:43] I justed tried it with g++-3.4, there it seemes to work [11:43] gotta go, cu later === blablablabla [~maniac@p54A3EB9D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === susus [~sz@p5089CB3E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DanielN_ [~KodiaK@162.23.4.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [~ivoks@lns01-0759.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:44] hi all [12:44] doko: ping === DanielN_ [~KodiaK@162.23.4.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:47] doko: I can't upload, I'm just a member, not MOTU :( [12:48] DanielN_: :) [12:49] ivoks: here :) [12:49] hi all ive just had a crack at packaging an app for the c++ transition. could someone review it? [12:49] DanielN_: to become MOTU, you have to be Member first [12:49] yeah [12:49] i know [12:49] DanielN_: are you member? [12:49] no [12:50] :) [12:50] ;( [12:50] then start with that first :) [12:50] DanielN_, just put it somewhere on the web [12:50] what? [12:50] or submit a bug report in bugzilla.ubuntu.com [12:51] Unfrgiven: crack? [12:51] doko: i have to provide the patch-diff only, right? [12:51] ivoks: ?!?! [12:51] Unfrgiven: < Unfrgiven> hi all ive just had a crack [12:51] ivoks: hehe aussie slang :) [12:52] DanielN_: i will help you with package... leave doko, he has much things to do :) [12:52] DanielN_: so... where did you stuck? [12:52] Unfrgiven: so... it doesn't compile or what? :) [12:52] doko: could you review the package i just did for the c++ transition? http://ankur.ath.cx/ubuntu/libextractor/ [12:53] ivoks: i'm not stucked .. i don't now why he has pinged me :) [12:53] :) [12:53] but thanks for your help anyway, i'll use it maybe other times :) [12:54] Unfrgiven: where's the debdiff? [12:54] :) [12:55] doko: i could help him, if you want :) === koke_ [~koke@155.210.13.152] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:55] ivoks: sure, please do [12:55] Unfrgiven: you have to do debdiff [12:55] doko: ivoks: http://ankur.ath.cx/ubuntu/libextractor/libextractor_0.4.2-2.diff.gz [12:55] Unfrgiven: no, that's not it... [12:55] Unfrgiven: i'll explain you [12:55] Unfrgiven: when you d/w source, you get three files [12:55] <\sh> doko: thx for reviewing :) [12:56] Unfrgiven: .diff.gz, .dsc and .tar.gz [12:56] yep [12:56] Unfrgiven: when you build your source, you also get .diff.gz, .dsc and .tar.gz [12:56] Unfrgiven: but different version [12:56] Unfrgiven: then you need to do debdiff -.dsc -.dsc [12:57] Unfrgiven: that will output all the changes in these two releases [12:57] ivoks: ah i see [12:57] ok [12:57] Unfrgiven: so, we just download old source, put that diff, and we have your source [12:58] Unfrgiven: redirect output in some file, calling it .diff or .patch [12:58] ivoks: ah gotcha. alright i'll do that now [12:58] Unfrgiven: and upload only that file, not whole source :) [12:58] Unfrgiven: i did same mistakes only 2-3 weeks ago :) [01:00] ivoks: :) [01:00] ivoks: thanks for the advice. ill have another "crack" at it ;) [01:00] Unfrgiven: so, i could take a look at your package, but i'm not a MOTU and can't do reviews or uploads [01:01] ivoks: yeah me neither. im trying earn my way to becoming a MOTU :) [01:01] candidate here too :) [01:01] Unfrgiven: there is something much better on that way than becoming a MOTU - you will learn how to package :) [01:02] i'm not candidate yet, i don't feel ready yet... [01:02] ivoks: yeah im trying to learn that too... in fact im implementing the IntroDeveloperDocs spec... so learning packaging is a must! [01:03] ivoks: do i need to add the "c2" to the "Package" field? [01:04] uh... [01:04] not only that... [01:04] you have to add c2 if it wasn't c102 [01:04] and you have to fix dependecies [01:04] ivoks: yeah it wasnt... [01:05] so -dev of that package depends on packagec2 [01:05] and all dependencies, if they are different, of the source [01:05] ivoks: ok cool, thanks :) [01:05] if there is libxclass, it must become libxclassc2 [01:05] but not all apackages [01:05] ivoks: so i need to also update all the packages from apt-cache rdepends ? [01:06] you have check CxxLibraryList and apt-cache search [01:06] no [01:06] Unfrgiven: but you have to add new lines to control file [01:07] yourpackagec2 must replace yourpackage, and it has to conflict with yourpackage [01:07] yourpackage-dev must depend on yourpackagec2 [01:07] ivoks: ok... so Provides, Conflicts and Replaces? [01:07] no Provides [01:07] only Conflicts and Replaces [01:07] ivoks: ok [01:08] CXX Transition 101 -> wiki pages [01:08] yeah :) [01:09] Unfrgiven: it's not very easy in the begining [01:09] Unfrgiven: but after while you'll understand most of it... [01:09] Unfrgiven: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/CxxLibraryList [01:10] ivoks: well with such friendly developers, i can only succeed :) [01:10] :) [01:11] time to go... === ogra [~ogra@p5089CB3E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:11] ivoks: ok, thanks for your help [01:11] np [01:12] you read that text on CxxLibraryList [01:14] hi all [01:15] is anybody fond of doing a postgresql transition for pittis new packages ? [01:15] ogra: hi [01:15] hey Unfrgiven [01:15] ogra: change build-dep; check if it still works; re-upload, right? [01:15] yep [01:16] not too many packages? [01:16] the list is on the ubuntu-devel ML [01:16] yeah I saw it [01:16] ogra: hi :) [01:16] pitti has been mailing a lot :) [01:16] yep :) [01:16] hi ivoks [01:17] and bye :) [01:17] ogra: I could do the build-dep/recompile thing.. but I can't test all of them [01:17] btw, tseng is our Mono god, right? [01:18] <\sh> hey ogra. [01:19] Treenaks, if it happens now and they compile fine, there is enough time for user tests and bugreports... [01:19] hi \sh [01:19] ogra: ok :) [01:20] :) [01:20] ogra: anyway, tseng = mono-god? [01:21] yep [01:21] absolutely [01:21] even novell knows that ;) [01:21] :) [01:22] you need libmono-dev to be able to run beagle (which doesn't compile on ppc/amd64..) on x86 [01:22] ogra: it might be a _bit_ more than that [01:22] because it tries to find libMonoPosixHelper.so instead of $&.0 [01:22] pitti: oh? what more could it be? [01:22] pitti: removing the "private" calls? [01:22] transition to libpq-dev changes the include path, so packages should generally use "pg_config --includedir" [01:23] Treenaks: no, they shouldn't appear in any external package (if they really do, well, that's my problem then) [01:23] pitti: ok [01:24] btw, when did mozilla-firefox become just plain firefox? [01:24] and why didn't dist-upgrade upgrade it for me? [01:24] should I make that a bug? === Treenaks is full of questions today === herzi [~herzi@host-214-222.conf.guadec.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:39] Treenaks: indeed, that sounds like a bug for thom === tseng|work [~ccc27a01@sls-eb20p9.dca2.superb.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:42] ogra: can you review my first c++ transition package? libextractor_0.4.2-2ubuntu1.debdiff === jamessan|work [~jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:43] Unfrgiven, have you tagged it on the wiki ? and opened a bug with the patch attached ? [01:44] pitti: when are you going to upload pg8? [01:44] ogra: ive tagged the wiki. havent opened a bug yet. i wanted to make sure i was doing it right first. [01:44] pitti: (so I can plan my time for the transition stuff) [01:44] Unfrgiven, make a patch and add it to the bug... [01:44] hi ogra [01:44] Treenaks: next monday [01:44] Treenaks: would be cool to have some help there :-) [01:44] hey big mono master tseng|work [01:45] moins tseng|work [01:45] hiya pitti, everyone [01:45] <\sh> JESUS Oliver [01:45] tseng|work: hey dude [01:45] <\sh> missing conflicts [01:45] <\sh> forgot to update the diff [01:46] ogra: marks talk wasnt streamed! at least not archived [01:46] tseng|work: it was.. only 50% [01:46] how do you mean [01:46] tseng|work: you mean the guadec talk right? [01:46] yes [01:46] \sh, just oliver please [01:46] ;) [01:46] tseng|work: there's the "partial keynote" from Mark on the archive page [01:47] the video i got was just two guys dopping around with a projector [01:47] no partial anything [01:47] hmm. suckage [01:47] <\sh> ogra: if u need a helping hand for your bugs...:) [01:48] \sh, i'd be happy about every Cxx thingie i can get rid of ;) [01:48] ogra: oh beagle needs amd64 love [01:48] ogra: there are non-PIC xorg libs now [01:49] tseng|work, i'll look at it... (indeed) [01:49] <\sh> ogra: btw...I fixed arkrpg :) build issues and g++ issues...this morning it came to me ;) [01:49] i imagine that will break alot [01:49] :( [01:49] i saw the upload [01:49] tseng|work: according to fabbione, it's the way you call gcc or something [01:49] Treenaks: as in, without -fPIC? [01:49] tseng|work: it should call "ld" or something (see log) [01:49] hm. [01:50] tseng|work: and there's a libMonoPosixHelper.so vs libMonoPosixHelper.so.0 thing.. [01:50] Treenak: in what exe/dll? [01:50] tseng|work: uh.. de-install libmono-dev and run beagled [01:51] tseng|work: didn't log it [01:51] sorry [01:51] ok, thanks. [01:51] do you have a wiki account? [01:51] yes [01:51] can you put that on the todo on MOTUMono [01:51] k [01:51] thanks! [01:51] thats my tracking place for now [01:52] <\sh> ogra:i will take a look on your bugzilla list...and take everything I can manage [01:52] i was nearly to the bottom of it too :) [01:52] \sh, thanks a lot, owing you a beer ;) [01:55] <\sh> ogra: well...i owe u a beer :) [01:56] so we are even then.... sad.....all nice beer we cant drink now :/ [01:57] Riddel is an upload monster [01:57] tseng|work: KDE.. monster.. [01:57] ;) [01:57] <\sh> ogra: what about a meeting? when u have time? === ivoks [~ivoks@lns01-0759.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:58] ogra: i am writing a cli packaging policy for debian [01:58] yay [01:58] ogra: CLIPolicy on the wiki [01:58] oki, i'll check it [01:59] thanks :) [01:59] the end section will change to "mono specifics" [01:59] \sh, my next weekends are fairly booked.... [01:59] tseng|work: note added to the wiki [02:00] <\sh> doko: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10804 i will upload for him [02:00] <\sh> ogra: check your schedule :) and let's occupy it for better things then working;) [02:01] will ubuntu follow LSB? [02:01] or.. accept LSB specifictions [02:02] it already does (as far as they exist yet) [02:02] http://refspecs.freestandards.org/LSB_3.0.0/LSB-Core-generic/LSB-Core-generic/runlevels.html [02:03] urgh.. the display manager runlevel crap [02:03] if you don't want a displaymanager, remove it! [02:03] not onlt display manager [02:03] ivoks: the rest is already te same [02:03] ivoks: check /etc/inittab [02:04] \sh, yes please do [02:04] Treenaks: ok [02:04] <\sh> ivoks: u need review and upload for your cxx bugs? [02:04] \sh: upload - yes [02:04] <\sh> ok. [02:04] <\sh> hard night [02:04] review are doing only ogra and doko, IIRC? [02:05] ivoks, i trust \sh's c++ knowledge even mre then my own.... [02:05] ok then :) [02:05] \sh: shall we start? :) [02:06] \sh: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11194 [02:06] \sh: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11083 [02:07] \sh: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11063 [02:07] three would be enough for now... :) [02:07] <\sh> ivoks: moment...i have one xclass [02:07] ? [02:08] we fixed that one :) [02:08] together :) [02:09] \sh, xclass can get uploaded after a testbuild [02:10] <\sh> heheh :) amd64 testbuild is included in my upload ;) [02:11] great === thoreauputic_ [~prospero@wolax8-073.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:12] <\sh> ogra: ivoks is right...xclass was one package, i fixed with ivoks...and tested it on ravel :) [02:12] lol [02:12] you fixed :) [02:13] <\sh> at least i deleted ;) [02:13] <\sh> fixing is something else ;) [02:14] <\sh> yeah..worked [02:17] <\sh> ivoks: please assign all your bugs to sh@sourcecode.de zhx [02:17] <\sh> -z+t [02:17] <\sh> so i have them in my list [02:18] ok [02:18] <\sh> thx [02:19] <\sh> ok...givemeonecoffeeandacigarettetime [02:20] \sh: there [02:20] others are builded and uploaded [02:22] \sh: why did you change status on libxclass? [02:22] heh, i was about to aks the same [02:22] :) [02:22] i think like a real MOTU :) [02:40] opencv is too much for me :( [02:40] FTBS on amd64 and ia64 === Treenaks kicks the wiki in the groin [02:47] <\sh> Accepted: [02:47] <\sh> xclass_0.8.3-1ubuntu2.diff.gz [02:47] <\sh> to pool/universe/x/xclass/xclass_0.8.3-1ubuntu2.diff.gz [02:47] <\sh> what? [02:49] <\sh> ivoks: please have an eye on http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/byDate/today.html [02:50] ? [02:53] <\sh> ivoks: if you package failes or succeed you will see it there :) [02:54] \sh, did you upload libcoin ? [02:54] <\sh> chmj: no..i was waiting for an answer :) [02:54] \sh: i know that :) [02:55] \sh: opencv will fail, don't upload it [02:55] \sh: others should work [02:55] <\sh> chmj: but i can upload it if you want... [02:55] <\sh> ivoks: i will check it on ravel [02:56] \sh, no, let me check [02:58] <\sh> chmj: k [03:00] rofl [03:00] i can't report on bugzilla [03:00] sure you can... [03:00]