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Kartagisokay I'm gone12:00
Kartagislater12:00
hntif you want to use non-passive you have to forward port 20, yup..12:00
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shad0w1egreat, then I'll just install a pftp client on windows box at home, and use non-passive everywhere else, where there isnt a firewall12:01
Zodiacallo allo12:01
shad0w1esounds like a plan!12:01
hntshad0w1e, but FROM port 20 on your server to aaaaaaaany port on your system...12:01
shad0w1ethere's def no DANGER in leaving port 20 open , is there12:01
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hntshad0w1e, the FTP server will connect TO you FROM port 20 TO you port any12:02
hntshad0w1e, that's for the "active mode" (non-passiv)...12:02
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shad0w1eah12:03
hntshad0w1e, just google on it, youll get the hang of it... look http://slacksite.com/other/ftp.html12:03
shad0w1eso its safe to leave 20 open on my server12:03
hntshad0w1e, you need port 21 "open" on your server first of all..12:04
hntport 20, not open for INCOMING12:04
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hntin active, the server will connect to you FROM port 20 - so that is port 20 OUTGOING on the serverside...12:04
shad0w1egotcha12:04
shad0w1eso 21 incoming12:04
hnton your side, it is incoming any port > 1024..12:04
shad0w1e20 outgoing12:04
litupno no all wrong12:04
shad0w1egr12:05
hntand for passive you connect to the server twice..12:05
hntlitup, wtf?12:05
shad0w1ehow do I block ports on my linux box?12:05
hntshad0w1e, iptables..12:05
shad0w1eah, and then put it in init.d to start every time, right?12:05
hntwell, yes.. if you want it at startup12:06
wdhshad0w1e, or use iptables-save12:06
hntor u might want to use "shorewall" and webmin to make it easier..12:06
shad0w1eoh really12:06
hnti mean, make the configuring easier..12:06
shad0w1ethanks i should check that stuff out12:06
wdhshad0w1e, firestarter is quite a nice frontend too12:06
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hnti think firestarter is a frontend for writing the rules right?12:07
wdhshad0w1e, saves you the trouble of setting up webmin if you dont have it running :)12:07
wdhhnt, and running it automatically, view logs.. etc12:07
hntah ok! never used it :)12:07
wdh:)12:07
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hntthen it is pretty much like shorewall anyway..12:08
wdhi personally do not like webinterfaces for configurations :)12:08
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hntoic hehe i like them ;)12:08
hnthm so.. can anyone help me with scummvm under hoary?12:08
hntIve got 2 uninstallable dependencies on this one..12:09
hntand that makes me a saaaaaaaaaaaaad panda 8'(((((12:09
neirasDamn, I wish evolution were split up into separate apps12:09
wdhunder hoary? any exotic repos enabled?12:09
hntwdh, I added universe and multiverse, thats it..12:10
hntand "scummvm" is in there.. but libmad and libmpeg2 arent :/12:10
wdhtry libmad012:11
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hntyep, thats the one it cant find..12:11
hntsorry, I shortened the name.. my bad12:11
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hnt Depends: libmad0 (>=0.15.1b) but it is not installable12:12
hntDepends: libmpeg2-4  but it is not installable12:12
hntthats the error..12:12
Fackamatoanyone managed to play drm protected wmv files?12:12
aboodwhats the rename command for a file ???12:12
hntabood, rn12:12
hntabood, jk;) mv12:12
karamazofanyone got a asrock k7VT4A+???12:12
wdhhnt, thats the one i have here in hoary12:12
hntwdh, oi? where you got them?12:13
karamazofor had a problem with his sound card??12:13
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aboodthx12:13
karamazofor even could give me a hend??12:13
karamazofhand!12:13
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Jack_Bristow\disconnect heading to work12:14
wdhhnt, libmad0 is in main12:14
DekaPinkHnnn... Is it difficult to do a dual boot with Ubuntu? :312:14
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wdhDekaPink, not at all12:14
karamazofor could aynone tell me where to go to get some help??12:14
hntwdh, hmm that is really strange.. Ive got main in my sources.list!!12:14
hntdeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted12:15
hntdeb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted12:15
wdhhnt, with 'hoary' also?12:15
wdhand i have a 'hoary-updates' here as well12:15
DekaPinkI was going to play with it on VMware but it doesn't seem to like that.12:15
hntdeb-src http://at.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted12:15
hntdeb http://at.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted12:15
hntme too :/12:15
wdhat.archive?12:16
hnta mirror it selected by itself maybe? Im from austria..12:16
hntbut "archive" doesnt really sound so nice hm12:17
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wdhhnt, replace your sources.list by the on i posted here.. be sure to make a backup though..12:18
wdhhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.com/29240812:18
DekaPinkStupid question here... any reccomendations on what I should use to burn the install CD? I've been having a little trouble it seems, lately... I tried to burn some with one program and they ended up not working... I'd never had the problem before with others, so I don't know...12:18
hntwdh, ok I will try!12:18
wdhand then run 'apt-get update'12:18
hntmhm12:18
wdhDekaPink, what platform are you booting from?12:19
wdhs/booting/burning12:19
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DekaPinkI'm on Windows XP.12:19
wdhon windows i would recommend Nero..12:19
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hntwdh, sweet now there it is, libmad0 :D do you think the .at mirror is screwed? or something wrong in the sources.list? hm12:20
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wdhhnt, not sure.. never heard of an .at mirror..12:20
wdhmaybe the wiki has something on that12:21
hntwdh, ic hmm.. that's the ones the installroutine set for me fully automatically o.o wierd12:21
hntbut thanks a lot! now I can play MonkeyIsland :D:D:D12:21
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wdhhnt, hmmmz.. one last question..12:21
hntyes?12:21
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wdhdid you try 'apt-get update' before you tried to install libmad0?12:21
hntwdh, yes..12:22
hnti tried synaptic and apt-get/apt-search n -show12:22
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wdhhnt, the first time also?? before i told you to replace your sourlces.list that is..12:22
hntyup12:22
wdhok12:22
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hntsynaptic reloads all the time, too12:22
wdhquite strange then..12:22
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wdhhnt, true12:22
hntyea :/12:22
hntbut now its working :) thx!12:23
wdhyw12:23
wdh*sleepy time*12:23
hntn8n812:23
wdhjust one night will do :)12:23
hntnight;)12:23
Fator_Deehmmm, kazehakase seems like a very good browser12:24
hntwdh, your sources.list got main hoary uni and multiverse on every line.. mine didnt.. maybe that's why..12:25
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new2gentoocdrecord12:27
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new2gentoo^thehatsrule^, hello12:28
new2gentoooops12:29
^thehatsrule^lol12:29
^thehatsrule^oops?12:29
new2gentooooh, thought you disconnected12:29
^thehatsrule^but hi :P12:29
new2gentoowhats up12:29
^thehatsrule^i did12:29
^thehatsrule^some stupid port blocking it...12:29
^thehatsrule^dunno what12:29
raDeonHAHAHHAA PORT BLOCKING!12:30
new2gentoochilling while wife is getting ready to go out and eat12:30
^thehatsrule^heh cool12:30
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Fator_DeeraDeon: what's up with you?12:30
^thehatsrule^lol, i meant the port is in use12:30
^thehatsrule^i cant free it12:31
raDeonnothing much, you?12:31
Fator_Deejust thinking why you shouted12:31
raDeondon't think about it too hard12:31
raDeonno good came come from that12:31
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new2gentooraDeon, so how drunk where you last nite with that bs on the mepis channel?12:31
raDeonwhat mepis channel12:31
Fator_Deedrunk + irc = always good12:31
^thehatsrule^lol12:31
raDeonoh hell yeah factor12:32
raDeondrunk + roadtest = not so good12:32
raDeonhahahahaha12:32
Fator_Deethat's why you should make a password that you can't type while you'r drunk12:32
Fator_Deebut somehow you always manage to type it out12:32
hntwell, laters! n812:33
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raDeonbye hnt12:33
raDeonmy friend12:33
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phillipcI have a laptop that gets Internet wirelessly; I want to provide my router with this connection. How can I set up my laptop to give an internet connection to my router through my laptop's ethernet port and my router's internet port? Does this require setting up a bridge?12:37
new2gentoophillipc, see which channel gets a hit 1st here or gentoo aye12:37
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phillipcnew2gentoo: I am familiar with both distros and the problem is agnostic to either12:38
syndhow do i change the trash icons in gnome?12:38
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[Spooky] man is some reps down ?12:39
[Spooky] i get error when downloading...12:39
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synd[Spooky] : which repos12:40
snowsealphillipc,  you  want your lapt to be a wireess repeater, and your router has to route internet through it?12:40
aboodguys, need a prof help with apt-get, im facing a proplem suddenly i get it it cant be updated any one can follow my proplem plz ???12:40
[Spooky] backports12:40
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[Spooky] http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/universe/binary-i386/12:41
phillipcsnowseal: no wireless repeated. I have to get the connection wirelessly, through my laptop. I want to then give the router an internet connection through my laptop12:41
synd[Spooky] : backports are shitty12:41
syndhow do i change the trash icons in gnome? anyone know?12:41
phillipcsynd: you can either change your icon theme (System->Preferences->theme), or you can replace the image that represents your trash in your theme (your theme resides in /usr/share/icons or ~/.icons, and the image is easy enough to find in there)12:41
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syndphillipc: thanks12:42
[Spooky] synd: maybe, but necessary...12:42
aboodcany any body paste me his source.list file in privte plz i need a fully working one ?!?!?!12:43
snowsealphillipc, and the router has the wireless support?12:43
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aboodguys plz any one check my proplem12:44
syndabood: there is one on ubuntuguide.org12:44
phillipcsnowseal: are you talking about the router I want to give internet access to, or the router I'm getting access from? Both have wireless support, but I think that's irrelevant. I want to give a connection to my router through a cat5 cable coming from my laptop12:44
snowsealso ust set up a dhcpd on the laptop. and put a cross link cable on it to the wan port of the router.12:44
apollo2011How do I install a package from a .deb in Kubuntu?12:45
Riddellapollo2011: dpkg --install foo.deb12:45
Riddellsudo  needed before that12:45
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snowsealand the laptop needs some routing software too.12:46
aboodsynd, let me check, plz man could i c yours in private i tried that one before :(12:46
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phillipcsnowseal: are you sure the crosslink is required?12:46
syndabood: mine is the same as the one on ubuntuguide.org. sorry.12:46
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snowsealphillipc, yes12:47
apollo2011Ridell: thx12:47
snowsealphillipc, or two cables with a hub12:47
phillipcsnowseal: what configuration should I do with eth0 and wlan0 on the laptop?12:47
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imaekOh man.12:48
imaekI just figlet'ed the bible.12:48
snowsealphillipc,  all traffic from eth0 should be masqueraded to wlan012:48
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phillipcsnowseal: hmm...12:48
snowsealits really all logic12:48
phillipcsnowseal: you're really helping me, thanks =)12:48
phillipcsnowseal: can you point me to any documents that have definite instructions?12:49
phillipcsuch as masquerading traffic12:49
snowsealphillipc, iptables + MASQUERADE12:49
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phillipcsnowseal: thanks12:49
snowsealgood luck12:50
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syndack in /usr/share/icons it says i dont have permission to write to the folder :x12:50
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syndhow do i gain permission to write to it?12:51
[Spooky] so what to do about the reps ?12:52
raDeonLMAO REPS12:52
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synd[Spooky] : the backports are shit12:52
synd[Spooky] : youre gonna have to wait until they fix it. its happened to me before12:52
dabaSlonthey moved them onto mirrors, read the forums...12:53
[Spooky] hm ok12:53
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dabaSlonjust search for backports.12:53
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dabaSlonthe doctor said Im fine..12:53
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phillipcsynd: launch nautilus with gksudo, or, do ti from the command line as sudo -s12:54
norrbaggenis 860.000 fps good with a ati mobile 9600 332 mb ram?12:54
norrbaggenwith glxgears?12:54
phillipcsynd: a better solution is to copy the entire folder from /usr/share/icons to your personal ~/.icons folder, and rename the file in there describing what it is to something custom, e.g. from "Nuvola" to "Nuvola-custom" and then mess with whatever icons you like12:55
iceman2Kgod forsaken intel network onboard card ... cant load it ...12:55
phillipcsynd: that way you have the original, unmodified theme and your modified theme. The theme in /usr/share/icons will get overwritten whenever you update gnome-themes12:55
new2gentoonorrbaggen, not bad, what bit color?12:55
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Fator_Deenorrbaggen: glxgears is not a proper way to measure your cards performance12:55
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meltemihi12:55
norrbaggennew2gentoo, think 2412:55
Fator_Deenorrbaggen: test it buy playing some game12:55
Fator_Dee*by12:55
norrbaggenFator_Dee, what shoul i  use12:55
raDeonLMAO FACTOR12:55
meltemisoory12:56
syndphillipc: thanks. i'll try that out..12:56
norrbaggenFator_Dee,  can play tuxracer with no problem12:56
raDeonfaggle futz12:56
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meltemiwhat's games you used in ubuntu??12:56
raDeon frozen-bubble12:56
phillipcwc312:56
raDeonsweet war312:56
dabaSlonok, Im gonna log out of xfce, and come back with a weird set of photos, brb...12:56
syndfrozen bubble kicks ballsack12:56
Fator_Deenorrbaggen: glxgears basically just shows if hardware rendering is working12:56
norrbaggenhow can i test if agp is used?12:56
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norrbaggenok12:56
raDeonhttp://linux.sector-19.org/war3wine.jpg12:56
syndraDeon: nice12:57
syndraDeon: what kinda system you running on12:57
meltemihow can I configure wine??12:57
raDeonsynd, windows12:57
raDeonhaha12:57
syndraDeon: not operating system.12:58
raDeonthat was i think almost 2 years ago12:58
raDeonwhat you want to know12:58
meltemiall :P12:58
syndraDeon: system specs12:58
raDeon1.33ghz tbird12:58
raDeon512 mb pc 270012:58
raDeongf4 ti 4200 128 mb12:58
meltemisoo good12:59
syndi see12:59
raDeoni had this computer so long12:59
raDeonhaven't upgraded it in a really long time though12:59
meltemii had k7 1gz with 1500 Mram 13312:59
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meltemiwith 120 Gb of memory12:59
meltemiit is  6 years01:00
cccwow, 120 gb memory :D01:00
raDeon120 gb?01:00
raDeonhaha01:00
syndthats a shitload of memory01:00
meltemi120 Hdd01:00
raDeonah01:00
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raDeonand you had 1.5 gb of memory01:00
raDeon?01:00
norrbaggenanyone got a guide to get steam running on ubuntu01:00
raDeonthat seems high for a 1ghz machine!01:00
meltemiyes01:00
raDeonwhat u doing that need so much01:00
syndpowermac G5s can only support up to 8GB RAM:p01:00
meltemii want to buy other01:01
KarlosIIis backports down?01:01
syndKarlosII: yes01:01
meltemii like these01:01
KarlosIIk that's what I suspected, just making sure it wasn't a routing issue on my end01:01
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KarlosIIsynd, speak of which I shoudl send them a donation of $20 for this month01:02
danko123456KarlosII: it is an issue of them moving it, please read the forums, serach for backports.01:02
meltemihttp://de.shuttle.com/en/desktopdefault.aspx/tabid-72/170_read-10611/01:02
KarlosIImoving?01:02
[freebsdhow does switching from ubuntu to kubuntu work? just get the sources and apt-get kubuntu-desktop?01:02
syndKarlosII: they need it01:02
meltemiit's so good01:02
Riddell[freebsd: yes, but no extra sources needed01:02
KarlosIII try to donate to a different project each month :)01:02
[freebsdwhat do i apt to?01:03
meltemichao01:03
meltemisee you later01:03
[freebsdciao*01:03
[freebsdlol01:03
[freebsdi mean what do i apt-get install?01:03
Shuddertrix[freebsd: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop01:03
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Shuddertrix[freebsd: it's a metapackage01:03
norrbaggenanyone got a guide to get steam running on ubuntu01:03
[freebsdmk01:04
Shuddertrixnorrbaggen: install cedega, download steam, run 'cedega SteamInstall.exe' ?01:04
Shuddertrixnorrbaggen: or is that a different steam you are talking about?01:04
norrbaggensteam counter strike01:04
Shuddertrixthen do what i said01:04
Shuddertrixworks like a charm01:04
syndack01:04
norrbaggenwhat is cedega01:05
raDeoncedega is wine with directx wrappers01:05
[freebsdits a windows emulator for games01:05
Shuddertrixunless you want to do the whole wine+dx patching route, which takes forever01:05
apollo2011How do I execute a .bin file? sh doesn't seem to work...01:05
raDeonnot an emulator01:05
[freebsdwell, sorta.01:05
raDeonit is NOT an emulator01:05
syndhow do i change the ubuntu main menu icon??01:05
[freebsdit lets you run PE exes.01:05
[freebsdso yes, sorta.01:05
[freebsdand, calm down :D01:05
raDeonit creates a synthetic windows environment with directx support01:05
Shuddertrixsynd: there's a howto on the forums01:05
norrbaggeni got steam installed on my windows part do i have to reinstall?01:05
Gus_can someone help me writing a simple link to a java file ?01:05
raDeonallowing you to play directx games on linux01:05
syndShuddertrix:  thanks : )01:06
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syndShuddertrix: got a link? synd is lazy : )01:06
ska-fanI'm trying to install vmware, and it asks me for the kernel include files. Where are they and/or what package do I need to install?01:06
KarlosIIdanko123456, ty01:06
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warpedmindhello all01:06
Shuddertrixnorrbaggen: you have to install steam with cedega on ubuntu, it's not really reinstalling, just a different copy.01:06
ColsWhat ist he ebst way to show my internet connectivity as a statistic for a website?01:06
Shuddertrixsynd: Shuddertrix lazy.01:06
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norrbaggenmkay01:07
syndShuddertrix: fair enough heh01:07
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warpedmindanyone got LTSP working? Im stuck on tftp trying to boot the kernel01:07
raDeonhi01:07
apollo2011How do I execute a .bin file? sh doesn't seem to work...01:07
Colstry ./filename.bin01:07
[freebsdlol01:07
ColsWhat ist he ebst way to show my internet connectivity as a statistic for a website?01:07
warpedmindchmod +x filename.bin01:08
[freebsdwhats the sources.list entry for apt multiverse?01:08
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norrbaggenthanx il try rhat01:08
jpraDeon can you share the box icon that you have on your panel?? :D it's cool! :D01:08
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warpedmindmake sure the bin is executable01:08
ska-fanIt's maybe linux-headers.01:08
Shuddertrixnorrbaggen: one thing you should know, cedega is not free.01:08
danko123456ok, tell me if this is not weird, that is right on Broadway in Winnipeg where I live : http://207.161.57.251/bears/01:08
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norrbaggeni realised that now01:10
norrbaggendc here i come01:10
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warpedmindanyone got LTSP working?01:10
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SynapseLapseHoly cow.  Are there really 483 people in this room?01:10
danko123456no.01:10
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[freebsdlol01:11
ShuddertrixSynapseLapse: bots, idlers, and people that active.01:11
hswalescan someone tell me the addresses for marilat and backports i put in the ones i found on the web and i get forbidden when i apt-get update01:11
SynapseLapseAhh, I see.01:11
danko123456483 irc instances are connected to this server, and joined in this channel.01:11
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SynapseLapseWow.  x-chat has a really slick interface.01:11
danko123456did you guys look at that link?01:11
jaysunnHello all,01:11
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[freebsdno01:11
leathersrI have a question for anyone who has backports in their repo list... I'm trying to find the sun jre or j2sdk for ver 1.5... I can't seem to locate it using either of the mirrors mentioned on the backports site today or on ubuntu guide01:13
danko123456[freebsd: and why not?01:13
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hswalesleathersr, you know the backports server urls?01:16
leathersryes01:16
hswalescould you pass em on the ones i found on the web seem to be wrong01:16
hswalescuz im gettin errors forbidden when i try to use em01:16
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[freebsdHow do I set KDM to default instead of GDM?01:16
Fator_Deein where is the browser to be used by the terminal specified? (right-clicking on url and then "Open Link")01:17
leathersrI wasn't getting anywhere with the mirrormax ones so I used the aussie ones... just a sec I'll paste it01:17
jaysunnhow do you install KDE desktop.  I just installed UBUNTU using one cdrom.  I do not see an option for KDE01:17
hswaleskewl man thanks01:17
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DemitarFator_Dee, System -> Settings -> Preferred Applications (or whatever it's called in english).01:18
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leathersrthe base url is this... just tack on the correct stuff after01:18
leathersr ftp://ftp2.caliu.info/backports/01:18
hswalesjaysunn, cuz ubuntu doesnt install kde it installs gnome kubuntu installs kde and not gnome i would assume apt-get install kde would work for ya01:18
[freebsdapt-get install kubuntu-desktop01:18
AnubisFailed to fetch http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports/dists/hoary-extras/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  403 Forbidden01:18
[freebsdAnubis01:18
jaysunnill try thanks01:18
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Anubismore down than up01:18
[freebsdBackports have done that to me for about 2 weeks01:18
kvidellso. the internet died here a minute ago so I'll ask again because I don't think it got through, either way I didn't see an answer: Is there a repository anywhere for gnome-panel apps/widgets?01:18
[freebsdgnome-look.org01:18
shayais there a weird problem w/ breezy and gnome key bindings?01:18
shayaevery ctrl-combo in evolution does ctrl-i (Import) for me01:19
jaysunnPackage kde is not available, but is referred to by another package.01:19
jaysunnThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or01:19
jaysunnis only available from another source01:19
jaysunnE: Package kde has no installation candidate01:19
jaysunnany idea01:19
[freebsdapt-get install kubuntu-desktop01:19
leathersrthey put the mirrormax uri on ubuntuguide so it'll get a pounding01:19
DaveyOK, I just used the Keyboard Shortcuts thing in Gnome, and set my multimedia keys up, but how to make rythmbox understand them?01:19
Fator_DeeDemitar: I'm not in gnome now so do you know the command to execute that app?01:19
leathersranyway, its still not giving me the stuff I expect from extras staging so I'm a bit buggered01:20
jaysunncool01:20
KarlosIIAnubis, read the forum use other mirrors01:20
DemitarFator_Dee, gnome-default-applications-properties01:20
jaysunnit asked for the cd01:20
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KarlosII[freebsd, you to read the dorums01:20
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shayain gedit every ctrl combo does ctrl-n01:20
KarlosIIerr forums01:20
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Fator_DeeDemitar: thanks a lot01:21
jaysunnwhat are the adavantages or disadvantages of GNOME verses KDE01:21
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hswalesperfect thanks leather01:21
^thehatsrule^jaysunn, you can read that anywhere ^^01:22
jaysunnwhere01:22
cccjaysunn: no need to ask, you'll get different answers from everyone. try both yourself, that's the only way to find out.01:22
jaysunnthank you01:22
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KarlosIIgnome is much more professional looking01:22
KarlosIIimho01:22
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leathersrhswales: let me know if you can apt-cache search sun-j01:23
cccKarlosII: i did the same01:23
jaysunni like it01:23
KarlosIII was a kanotix supporter for a long time01:23
KarlosIIin fact I was there for the founding of the channel01:23
jaysunnwhats kanotix01:23
KarlosII:>01:23
KarlosIIit's ranked 18 on distrowatch01:24
jaysunncool01:24
raDeonLMAO DISTROWATCH01:24
raDeonHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAA UBUNTU #101:24
raDeonFUCK YEAH01:24
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KarlosIIit's xfree/kde based, with excellent hardware support, better then ubuntu imho01:24
jaysunnreally01:25
KarlosIII'm talking hardware support01:25
KarlosIIwhen i say better01:25
AnubisKarlosII, you have a link, I see no mirrors01:25
KarlosIIwww.kanotix.com01:25
KarlosIIAnubis, huh01:25
KarlosIIoh01:25
KarlosIIread the forums for backports01:25
jaysunnchecking it out01:25
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jamie_Anyone have any luck installing VMWare in Unbuntu?01:26
jpraDeon, fuck you asshole01:26
KarlosIImy video players messed up bad...I think I need to reinstall them01:26
jp:)01:26
jaysunnvmware is my next project01:26
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raDeonjp, what's wrong with you?01:26
jpraDeon r u armenian?01:27
jpwuahahhahaha01:27
jp=)01:27
KarlosIImplayer crashes and totem locks up after one video being played and xine resizes the screen01:27
KarlosIIto 640x48001:27
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danko123456ok, tell me if this is not weird, that is right on Broadway in Winnipeg where I live : http://207.161.57.251/bears/01:27
danko123456why is there no comment on that:(01:27
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cccdanko123456: what?01:29
danko123456did you check out the site?01:30
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SynapseLapseWow.01:31
SynapseLapseMaybe no one here will find it amazing, but I finally got MP3s to play on Ubuntu. ^_^.01:31
flodinecan someone help me get this gmpc playing01:31
Anubishttp://backports.ubuntuforums.org/url.php01:31
Anubismirrors01:32
flodinehelp if you can01:32
danko123456SynapseLapse: wow, how;)...01:32
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danko123456whats a gmpc?01:32
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danko123456just a sec, actually.01:32
Zodiacsup dawgs01:32
ZodiacMan I love Ubuntu01:33
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danko123456sup dawg, g...01:33
ZodiacI cannot believe I actually paid to get Madriva01:33
SynapseLapsedpkg -i gstreamer0.8-mad_0.8.8-2_i386.deb = My old mp3s now play.01:33
houstontxhello from Houston TX01:33
danko123456hi!01:33
flodinegmpc=gnome music player01:33
houstontxi need yall's advice on a DSl problem01:33
danko123456Client, yeah, I searched01:33
danko123456houstontx: go ahead.01:34
houstontxthe phone co told me that i should multiply my d/l speed by a multiple of 801:34
houstontxit seems as though i am "maxxed out" at 40 KB01:34
Zodiacok01:34
Zodiacha!01:34
ZodiacThat stinks01:35
houstontxbut phone company says KB should be multiplied by eight01:35
danko123456houstontx: if you dont ahve a router, or a firewall, you should be faster.01:35
danko123456yes, that is correct, houstontx, they should.01:35
jamie_8 bits in a byte houstontx01:35
houstontxno just a straight DSL 384 Kbps commection through phone01:35
Zodiactrue dat trinidad01:35
hswalesgod im about to scrap this distro01:35
danko123456phone? a DSL modem?01:35
hswalesdvd playback is unsupported thats so gay01:35
houstontxso technically, 40 KB would be 320 Kbps????01:35
hswaleseven redhat supports dvd playback01:36
houstontxyes danko....sorry01:36
Zodiachswales, yea but it is easy to get going01:36
danko123456hswales: try www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats01:36
Zodiacyea01:36
danko123456please, and thank you:)01:36
jamie_I got DVD playback to work01:36
ZodiacI was just about to post that01:36
danko123456houstontx: and you are online?01:36
houstontxyes danko constantly (i never turn off modem)01:36
danko123456with that...01:36
danko123456ok, well, tell me this, do you know the ftp server name for your online storage?01:37
jamie_DVD playback http://ubuntuguide.org/#dvdplayback01:37
houstontxunknown danko01:37
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danko123456ok, hm... what is the ISP, I think I should be able to figure that out easy...01:37
houstontxi am new to the computer thing01:37
ccchoustontx: you're counting backwards =) 384 / 8 = 48 k (your max speed, probably)01:37
danko123456flodine: how do you import a file?01:37
mcquaidhello, i was going to try OO 1.9 but when I flag OO 1.3 for removal it wants to remove language-support-en01:37
houstontxSBC Yahoo DSL Houston01:37
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mcquaidis something that i just reinstall after replacing oo 1.3 with 1.9?01:38
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houstontxprovided through Southwestern Bell telephone01:38
danko123456k, just a sec, houstontx, Ill google, and try pinging...01:38
jamie_just in case some of you haven't seen this site http://ubuntuguide.org has alot of great tips01:38
houstontxok01:38
danko123456flodine: why use that gmpc? what type of files?01:38
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danko123456jamie_: thanks:)01:38
jaysunnI just installed KDE with apt-get install kubuntu-desktop.  How do I switch to it.  I tried restarting, but I heard that is only for WIndows01:39
houstontxdanko ...try www.houston.sbcglobal.net ???01:39
mcquaidi guess i don't see why removing openoffice pkgs wants to remove language support which is used by other programs besides oo.01:39
ZodiacWhat the hell is menu editor>01:39
Zodiac?01:39
Riddelljaysunn: log out, click session, choose KDE, log in01:39
jaysunncool01:40
mcquaidi think it might be an incorrect dependency?01:40
danko123456houstontx: that does not exist...01:40
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houstontxi know that it is sbc global but dont know IP01:40
MonoNoSaintHello everyone!01:40
houstontxaddr01:40
danko123456Zodiac: a menu editor, for the Apps menu in gnome01:40
MonoNoSaintI'm having a problem on recording and generating CDs ISOs...01:40
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flodinedanko123456 mp3s01:41
MonoNoSaintcdrecord complain there are issues with cdrecord and 2.5.x kernel from on...01:41
flodinedanko123456 do you use it01:41
MonoNoSaint*complains*01:41
ech0does anyone know of a gnome panel that will alert you when you have new mail?01:41
Zodiacdag01:41
MonoNoSainthow could I record my CDs so?01:41
danko123456 SBC Yahoo! Photos with unlimited online storage01:41
jamie_I use GnomeBaker01:41
danko123456 SBC Yahoo! Briefcase with up to 760 MB of online storage01:41
choice3dhello.01:41
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danko123456flodine: I use xmms.01:41
entropywould it be bad to run 2 apt-get installs simutaneously?01:41
MonoNoSaintjamie: me too01:41
MonoNoSaintand also Graveman, vut both don't record..01:42
danko123456some use beep-media-player, and other programs, I dunno which ones, I have like 5 installed.01:42
Zodiachey guys, for that DVD whatnot, what repository will I need?01:42
MonoNoSaint*but*01:42
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aeolistentropy, i dont think you can01:42
syndis vnc viewer easy to use?01:42
houstontxdanko ... click on "whois" on me and find my IP then see the dsl.hstntx.sbc etc then see what you can find01:42
houstontxmaybe that can help01:43
ZodiacAnybody know?01:43
jamie_Zodiac, add the repositories http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories01:43
Zodiacokay,01:43
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ZodiacThat will have the dependencies as well right??01:43
jamie_yes01:43
leathersrentropy there is a lock file that gets flipped whenever you do stuff that makes a change in your status file, so you can't do that01:43
danko123456houstontx: no, I will find this pretty quick...just a few moments, please.01:43
jamie_has everything on that page01:43
Zodiacwait01:43
houstontxok sorry01:43
Zodiacahh okay01:43
danko123456no need for ssorry...01:43
entropyleatherrsr: thanks. I haven't tried it, I was just wondering if it was possible.01:43
MonoNoSaintI have anice backup script for me that does all the job, from the backups to the iso generation... but cdrecord really is driving me crazy.01:43
MonoNoSaint*a nice*01:44
MonoNoSaintI type too fast, he he he01:44
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raDeonLMAO TYPING SPEED01:44
choice3dwould someone mind walking me through changing my Gforce driven resolution to something other than 640x480?01:44
Triffid_Huntercdrecord loves me..01:44
houstontxi am frustrated with this. A close friend of mine is on here all the time (nalioth) and he said I am no getting what i am paying for01:44
danko123456nalioth:)01:45
houstontxi seriously dont think his is worth $26.95 per month!01:45
danko123456houstontx: hey, could you call them up and ask themif they have a ftp server?01:45
danko123456that you could connect to?01:45
danko123456for online storage...01:45
houstontxnalioth and i were team drivers in 18-wheeler until December 0401:45
danko123456I cant seem to find it...01:45
danko123456nice01:45
MonoNoSaintso... anybody did solve this issue?01:45
jamie_I am testing now Mono01:45
houstontxif you can speak Indian, try 1-877-SBC-DSL501:46
leathersrentropy Im sure you could play some file linking games to brute force do it, but I think you'd bugger yourself in a hurry.  For giggles rename your status file to status.old or something and then do an apt-get install on gedit or something... it will be immediately evident why you don't want to run 2 instances at once01:46
danko123456:)01:46
jamie_Honestly haven't tried making on ISO01:46
danko123456just a sec01:46
MonoNoSaintjamie_: I was programming on Mono minutes ago.01:46
MonoNoSaintBut now time to backup... he he he01:46
MonoNoSaintThat why I need cdrecord :-(01:47
flodineman gnome and ubuntu are perfect together01:47
natexMonoNoSaint, what's wrong with cdrecord?01:47
danko123456I need the phone number01:47
danko123456:)01:47
danko123456Ill figure it out01:47
houstontx713-947-161901:47
MonoNoSaintnatex: it complains abour kernel version 2.5.x from on01:47
MonoNoSaintand don't generate my ISO images.01:47
MonoNoSaint*doesn't801:47
MonoNoSaint*about*01:48
houstontxaccount name : William Seattle01:48
MonoNoSaintsorry my fast typing01:48
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natexMonoNoSaint, sounds like you may need to recompile.01:48
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natexMonoNoSaint, recompile cdrecord that is01:48
houstontxmodem password: houston01:48
MonoNoSaintwill I have any problem with dependencies?01:49
houstontxmodem serial number: 358432395201:49
quailsterIs anyone here familiar with MySQL?01:49
danko123456hey, thanks01:49
Triffid_HunterMonoNoSaint: what options are you passing to it? it works fine for me01:49
houstontxif you can figure it out...more power to you!01:49
natexMonoNoSaint, probably not.... btw which cdrecord are you using?01:49
danko123456houston, nice prompt system01:50
MonoNoSaintI'll do a --version... 1 sec...01:50
houstontxwhat danko?01:50
MonoNoSaintCdrecord-Clone 2.01a3801:50
MonoNoSaint-clone????01:50
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houstontxoh...you mean the recording :)01:50
natexMonoNoSaint, hehe01:50
quailsterI need to know why mysqld is running yet I cannot see open port for it when I do 'nmap -p 0-60000 localhost'01:50
natexMonoNoSaint, ccdrecord that comes with Hoary runs flawlessly01:51
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MonoNoSaintmy iso generation is just simple:01:51
[Spooky] where do i find cdrdao ?01:51
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Arv3nHello.01:51
Arv3nCan anyone help me?01:51
danko123456no01:51
qqq_me too :)01:51
MonoNoSaintTo generate the iso:01:51
danko123456sorry, fufe.01:51
qqq_hello :)01:51
MonoNoSaintmkisofs -joliet-long -o /home/tiago/backup/iso/storage/"$hoje"/data.iso -JrT /home/tiago/backup/dados/storage01:51
danko123456duded.01:51
houstontx?01:52
danko123456Arv3n: jj, go ahead01:52
Arv3nheres the problem, whenever i get to the logon screen on kubuntu, theres just lines going vertically01:52
houstontxdanko...where in Usa are you?01:52
Arv3nits mostly greenish01:52
Arv3ni cant explain it01:52
Arv3nim trying as best i can01:52
natex[Spooky] , it's in universe01:53
Arv3nwant to see the forum topic, its more in-depth.01:53
MonoNoSaintI'm upgrading cdrecord and mkisofs from breezy repositories... let's see if that solves my problem.01:53
qqq_guys is there a compiler in the ubuntu livecd?01:53
houstontxi just tried the bandwidth tester at www.dslreports.com and it said 319 up 306 down01:53
Arv3nnm i got help01:53
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Arv3ngoodbye01:53
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natexMonoNoSaint, are you using hoary?01:54
MonoNoSaintnatex: yep01:54
MonoNoSaintbut some packages from breezy, like Mono...01:54
MonoNoSaintmono*01:55
natexMonoNoSaint, custom kernel?01:55
entropyIf I do a sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla01:55
entropy it says that it cannot find the package.. ?01:55
MonoNoSaintnorm_, default one from hoary01:55
Blissexentropy: use something like aptitude os synaptic instead to see whats available...01:55
MonoNoSaintfiniit installed the packages, let's see if I'm lucky now...01:56
leathersrentropy I am having the same problem - It seems that some of the package.gz files on the backport mirrors are empty... at least that is what I am seeing01:56
danko123456hey, houston:)01:56
MonoNoSaintman, again!01:57
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MonoNoSaintcdrecord: Warning: Running on Linux-2.6.10-5-38601:57
entropyleathersr: do you know how I can fix this?01:57
MonoNoSaintcdrecord: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer.01:57
danko123456houstontx left...01:57
danko123456well, I was on the phone with his ISP...01:57
danko123456:)01:57
MonoNoSainttried cdrecord -scanbus but it doesn't work...01:58
leathersrentropt: at this point, I think, be patient and keep trying to check the backports is the best option01:58
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choice3dcould someone link me to good directions for a newb on changing the screen resolution, my only option is 640x480 but in my xorg.conf all the resolutions i want to run are listed.01:58
leathersrfrankly, its starting to vex me a bit - - if this keeps up I'll be back to sarge pretty soon... sigh01:59
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MonoNoSaintisn't there another tool for me to make this ISOs?01:59
MonoNoSaintjust mkisofs and cdrecord?01:59
natexMonoNoSaint, sounds like the iso isn;t the problem, you aren't using cdrecord correctly01:59
natexMonoNoSaint, what is your cdrecord command?02:00
Triffid_HunterMonoNoSaint: it says that to me too, but works fine.. i just had to tell it to not try and use scsi02:00
MonoNoSaintcdcdrecord dev=0,0,0 -v speed=4 -eject -multi -data /home/tiago/backup/iso/storage/"$hoje"/data.iso02:01
choice3dany chance someone would pm and walk me through a couple of basic things just to get me rolling... the fixed resolution is driving me crazy!02:01
Triffid_HunterMonoNoSaint: is your cd burner an ide device?02:01
natexMonoNoSaint, and what is the error?02:01
MonoNoSaintyep, no scsi02:01
Triffid_HunterMonoNoSaint: try dev=/dev/hdc or whatever yours is instead of 0,0,002:01
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StRHi there...02:02
StRanyone using gmailfs with ubuntu?02:02
MonoNoSaintlet's see... mine is hdd02:02
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Zotnix:D02:03
ZotnixHeh02:03
ZotnixOkay, I'm a dork02:03
natex:)02:03
Zotnixand if anyone gets that yet, they are dorks too :p Unless they are the creator of that02:04
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danko123456?@zotnix...02:05
MonoNoSaintI think it is working now! mkisofs just complained about some UTF-8 stuff but I think everything is all right, my CD is being formatted!02:05
cesar_hi all, i have some problems with my sound in ubuntu . . .02:06
cesar_i have a CM1976102:07
Daveywhere can I set file associations?02:07
ShuddertrixTop Issues: 1) ATI 2) Sound02:07
Shuddertrix(based on my own watchings02:07
cesar_:P02:07
Shuddertrixcesar_: what is wrong with it?02:07
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cesar_hi Shuddertrix , the sound doenst work at all02:08
Triffid_HunterMonoNoSaint: yeah it took me a while to figure that out.. it also whinges about using a device node as a device being depreciated, but it always seems to work better...02:08
cesar_but seem installed02:08
Shuddertrixcesar_: Is the volume muted? Check the mixer..02:08
jpwhich emulator can emulate things like adobe illustrator? or fireworks mx? I tried with wine, but it doesn't supporte newly installshields, thanks :)02:08
cesar_checked alredy , in every possible way ;)02:08
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Shuddertrixjp: the Illustrator version before CS works wonderfully under CrossOffice.02:09
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jpShuddertrix thanks!02:09
Shuddertrixjp: If that doesn't work well for you, you could probably use VMware or the likes to run those.02:09
cesar_i check on google , and seems that a lot of people cant make his c media sound cards work in Ubuntu02:09
rat51man*Crossover Office02:09
jpShuddertrix ok thanks :P ;)02:09
MonoNoSaintThank you everyone! Another trick learned. And congratulations for your support! That's helps me to be a happy ubuntu user... ;-)02:10
Shuddertrixrat51man: There's pretty much no need for the office on the end. People will know what you talk about.02:10
Shuddertrixrat51man: And -10 eliteness points for correcting someone. Better thank the heavens that no one is counting.02:10
rat51manEh, guess you're right.02:10
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rat51man>_>02:11
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knoppixhey02:11
knoppixi need help again02:11
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knoppixhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3827202:11
ShuddertrixHello knoppix user ;)02:11
knoppixread up, then say if you can help me please02:11
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KarlosIIknoppix users02:12
knoppixim only using knoppix because its a live cd and thats the only thing i can use right now because kubuntu isnt working02:12
knoppixhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3827202:12
KarlosIIgee haven't they heard of using a non live-cd oriented distribution for hdd install?02:12
knoppixwtfudge?02:12
knoppixi have kubuntu installed02:12
rat51manYou should probably join #kubuntu02:12
knoppixim just using a live cd because my hd installation isnt working02:12
knoppixi didnt know they had a kubuntu channel02:13
KarlosIIof course02:13
knoppix-.-02:13
mrclarkhi guys. Trying to install freenx on kubuntu 5.04 using instructions from http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=196802:13
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Jormundgandknoppix: Reinstall Kubuntu. I don't know what you've done to it but it's screwed.02:13
cesar_hmm , seems to be a lot of kubuntu questions too :P02:13
mrclarkWhen I add 'deb http://kanotix.com/files/debian/ ./' to my sources.list file I get the following error in synaptic:02:13
JormundgandDamn.02:13
KarlosIImrclark, what are you doing and why?02:14
mrclarkoh hold on.02:14
mrclarkI'm trying to install freenx.02:14
KarlosIImrclark, use the backports repository02:14
Shuddertrixor browse to kanotix.com/files/debian and look in the freenx directory ;)02:15
mrclarkSorry. where's the backports repository?02:15
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mrclarkI've tried and I'm getting all sorts of errors.02:15
mrclarkHold on. let me try again.02:15
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KarlosIIuse the mirrors re: ubuntu backports forum02:15
MonoNoSaintbye and thank you all again. :-)02:16
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ShuddertrixThere's a umn mirror, too, i gotta add that ;D02:16
naliothhowdy ya'll02:16
KarlosIIu only use one02:16
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mrclarkKarlosII, So you're saying I should ignore the instructions in the forums?02:17
naliothmrclark: depends on which forum...i find ubuntuguide to be failing in some aspects02:18
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mrclarkHas anybody here managed to get freenx working?02:18
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Fackamatomrclark: what is it?02:19
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leslie__hello02:20
leslie__can i get help02:20
leslie__i can't get any sound02:20
mrclarkFackamato, Its the GPL'd version of the code from nomachine. It compresses the X packets to allow you to run over slow connections.02:20
mrclarkSort of like LTSP but compressed.02:20
Fackamatoaha02:20
Fackamatosorry, never used it02:21
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mrclarkwww.nomachine.com02:21
cesar_hi leslie , you have tried to put the name of your soundcard in google ?02:21
cesar_maybe the sound card is not supported by ubuntu02:21
cesar_i have the same problem too ;)02:21
leslie__is there a way to find out my sound card02:21
Fackamatolspci02:21
leslie__i've tried alsa, etc, but it does not work02:21
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leslie__what's lspci?02:22
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naliothleslie__: have you tried the fixes at ubuntulinux.org/wiki or ubuntuguide.org?02:22
leslie__yes02:22
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iceman2Kis oppen mossix a module for ubuntu ?02:23
joe|codeAre the backport repositories not working?02:23
cesar_leslie: your sond card is integrated to your motherboard ?02:24
joe|codenevermind. I see the forum post.02:24
naliothjoe|code: backports are dangerous02:24
leslie__im not sure02:24
iceman2Kshoot how to get mossix installed on ubuntu ..02:24
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leslie__is there a command or app that can detect my sound card?02:24
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^thehatsrule^modprobe ?02:24
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leslie__i've went to volume control preferences02:25
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^thehatsrule^esd i suppose02:25
leslie__but it only says "microphone"02:25
cesar_yup , a very easy way , in gnome go the control preferences and right click02:25
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cesar_then , select the . . . preferencies , or setings02:25
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cesar_that should show you a window with some information about your soundcard02:26
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leslie__how do i go to control preferences?02:26
spanglesontoastcan someone help me02:26
Fackamatospanglesontoast: no02:26
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stevenjI followed the ubuntu guide (5.04) and I get this?!? Failed to fetch http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  403 Forbidden  -- why???02:27
cesar_if your are using gnome , is the speaker-like icon02:27
entropyanyone know why I can't install some things right now like flashplayer-mozilla?02:27
cesar_close to the clock02:27
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spanglesontoastwell I cannot make my gateway monitor work with a radeon driver02:27
cesar_just right click in the icon02:27
naliothstevenj: stay away from backports, they can cause future breakage02:27
leslie__ok02:27
leslie__but it doesn't show anything about my soudn card02:27
leslie__it just says "Microphone":02:27
naliothentropy: have you enabled your repository list?02:27
entropynalioth: Where do I do that?02:28
iceman2Kanyone using a mosix cluster kernel in ubuntu ?02:28
stevenjnalioth, I wonder why the ubuntu guide that is so praised changed the sample repos to backports---I already upgraded the backport stuff :(02:28
raDeonWHO CALLED FOR ME02:28
raDeonWHAT U WANT02:28
raDeonSPEAK UP02:28
raDeonNOW02:28
cesar_hmmm . . . well , if no one has another idea . . . it could be that your soundcard is not working at all :P , or ubuntu cant work with your sound card02:28
leslie__oh02:29
leslie__it works wiht windows02:29
leslie__but not any type of linux02:29
leslie__i've tried02:29
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[Spooky] what is max filesize for tar.gz ?02:29
cesar_i have the same problem too, my sound card is a C media chip . . . it works with Fedora linux02:29
cesar_but not with ubuntu02:30
leslie__ah02:30
naliothentropy: view ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ for 'restrictd formats'02:30
Fackamato[Spooky] : ?02:30
cesar_i probably will buy a cheap pci sound card :P02:30
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leslie__i'd hate to go back to windows02:30
leslie__:(02:30
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naliothstevenj: you'll be alright if you remove the backport stuff and keep on doin what your doin02:30
[Spooky] Fackamato: i mean like zip only support max 2 gb... is there a limitation for tar ?02:30
cesar_me too , je je je je , i use my minidisk to hear music when im working in ubuntu02:30
entropynalioth: thanks, I will.02:30
Fackamato[Spooky] : no.02:30
naliothleslie__: so silent linux is not better than loud windows?02:31
[Spooky] Fackamato: cool02:31
pablo921cesar, i had a C media pci soundcard working with Alsa02:31
iceman2Kwell may have to dump ubuntu ... want the open mosix cluster installed with my system02:31
cesar_pablo : really ? what is the name of your sound card ???02:31
quailsterI'm trying to get MySQL and Connector//J to work in Ubuntu, can anyone help me?02:32
cesar_my cmedia is a motherboard integrated chip02:32
Fackamatoquailster: where are you failling?02:32
pablo921I'd have to go look for it. It wqas in another box , but it's real comm, a 4.0 card.02:32
entropynalioth: thanks, I got it working :)02:32
cesar_leslie : well , i work better without changing every moment the mp3 ;) , it could work for you02:32
quailsterFackamato: I cannot connect to MySQL server. I tried using 'netstat -l -t' and there is no port open for mysql02:33
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naliothentropy: better to catch it b4 something breaks02:33
Fackamatoquailster: is it installed and running (PID files, init.d scripts etc etc etc)02:33
leslie__ahh02:33
quailsterFackamato: but mysqld is currently running in the background, and I used perl with DBD and it worked02:33
] BreliC[hey everyone..02:34
leslie__how is fedora core02:34
raDeonTERRIBLE02:34
raDeonFUCK FEDORE02:34
cesar_lol02:34
raDeonROGER FEDERER02:34
raDeonFUCK HIM02:34
cesar_not so bad really02:34
cesar_but Ubuntu seems better to me02:34
iceman2KAnyone installed the openmosix kernel in ubuntu02:34
quailsterFackamato: it's just Connector//J that is not working. I set all classpath correctly, I'm sure.02:34
naliothwhere are the ops02:35
pablo921cesar, i installed the C media card before because my on-board 5.1 Via soundcard had a lot of noise with Windows, works great with Ubuntu02:35
] BreliC[quick question.  i have two reiserfs partitions on my sata drive (the only drive in my system) that i'm trying to mount.  they are reiserfs, and in the fstab, they are listed as "/dev/sda7 /mnt/storage auto defaults 0 0" and same for sda8.02:35
cowbudraDeon: yah fedora blows ;)02:35
] BreliC[my problem is that it denies me permission to write to the partitions02:35
cesar_in Fedora (core 4 was the version i use) i cant use audio cd , i have some problems upgrading and a lot of minor problems02:35
] BreliC[i tried adding rw and gid=users instead of defaults, but no dice02:36
] BreliC[anything i'm doing wrong?02:36
cesar_Ubuntu make everything a little more easy02:36
cesar_Pablo : hmm , the probably is time to change my sound card , thanks a lot !02:36
cowbud] BreliC[: I thought you had to put the actual group number..I might be wrong though02:36
] BreliC[cowbud, i tried that too (gid=100)02:36
cowbud] BreliC[: did you remount it after you did it?02:36
] BreliC[i have a vfat partition mounted without problem02:37
] BreliC[cowbud, yes02:37
cowbud] BreliC[: who owns the dir it is mounted under that is probably your issue..02:37
] BreliC[root owns it, group is users02:37
cowbudfor example can you as the user go in to that dir without the drive mounted and write in to it?02:37
nalioth] BreliC[: i saw an wiki entry t'other day at ubuntu, but here's mine (not from the article) rw,auto,umask=00002:37
] BreliC[so is the vfat drive and that one's fine02:37
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] BreliC[nalioth, thanks, i'll try that02:37
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] BreliC[nalioth, no 2 at the end of umask?02:38
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leslie__where can i manage my printers02:40
iceman2Kwhere to get virtual packages02:40
leslie__in ubuntu02:40
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nalioth] BreliC[: that is what i have on my system, and i can r/w w/o any trouble02:41
leslie__thanks, i've found it02:41
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nalioth] BreliC[: you might want to ask uncle google about mounting filesystms02:41
iceman2Khow do you get virtual packages for ubuntu02:42
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r0dcan you use splashimages /w ubuntu??02:42
JormundgandNo. Wait for Breezy.02:42
CHUANGI've just installed ubuntu and once started the screen is black... I know it's started because I typed in user and password and heard startup music.02:43
r0dand when is that coming out02:43
] BreliC[nalioth, i know how to mount them... done it many times, but on this fresh install (new computer too), it's giving me that problem... strange indeed02:43
JormundgandOctober.02:43
cesar_whath is Breezy ?02:43
JormundgandBreezy is the new, in-development, highly-volatile Ubuntu.02:43
^thehatsrule^cesar_, ubuntu testing i think...02:43
cesar_ahhh , the new for-testing ubuntu ???02:44
JormundgandYes. Don't use it, it is broken in places.02:44
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iceman2Kany one know how to add virtual package to download ?02:44
cesar_what new thing will have Breezy ?02:44
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Jormundgandcesar_: Please consult the all-knowing Wiki.02:45
cesar_thanks a lot !02:45
arvinim having problems with my x86config-4 file wenever i try to do sudo gedit, the file is blank02:45
joe|codeThe ubuntuguide shows that installing java is done by sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5, but the package is not found.02:45
r0dJormundgand, I was told their was a way to use splashimages..02:45
paul__chuang restart Ubuntu in terminal and enter sudo dpkg-reconfigure x server-xorg and see if you can configure your video driver02:45
Jormundgandr0d: Splash images as in pretty pictures at boot? It's called usplash and it doesn't work.02:45
CHUANGHELP...I've just installed ubuntu and once started the screen is black...02:46
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cesar_CHUANG : after the CMOS screen , it happens something ?02:47
iceman2KI need help getting openmisix to install buntu says it's a virtual package ?02:47
cesar_like a text telling you that the kernel is opening or something like that ?02:47
paul__chuang is Ubuntu the only OS installed?02:47
CHUANGat login screen02:48
CHUANGyes02:48
arvinanyone know why my x86conf is blank when i try to open with gedit?02:48
nalioth] BreliC[: ask the google02:48
naliothjoe|code: don't follow the guide for java02:48
cesar_hmm , do you use the test for the cd ? , you could dl a corrupted file02:48
paul__chuang at the log-in screen in sessions select termional02:48
naliothjoe|code: find the wiki entry where you d/l the bin02:48
paul__*terminal02:49
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CHUANGcan't see anything to select02:49
leslie__                                               blows02:49
paul__at the bottom left of the log-in screen you should have "sessions"02:50
Jormundgandarvin: Assuming you're using Ubuntu Hoary, that's because there is no XF86Config. Try xorg.conf.02:50
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paul__chuang do you have warty or hoary?02:51
arvinjormundgand: thanks, im trying to get the wiki howto for the synaptics touchpad driver to work with my laptop02:51
CHUANGis there a key I can hit to change resolution?02:51
arvinand the wiki tells me i need to open xf86config-402:51
iceman2Kanyone know how to install virtual package's ...02:52
iceman2Kwhere can u download them ?02:52
paul__chuang which version or Ubuntu did you insatll?02:53
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danko123456CHUANG: well, maybe not a key...02:53
Eddiehi guys02:53
CHUANGpaul__: 5.0402:53
paul__8install?02:53
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Eddieis anyone here familiar with the game xshipwars02:54
xml-bloghi everyone!02:54
[Spooky] man i think im in love with Ubuntu :)02:54
cesar_snifff , the new "basic boot config" of breezy was something i always wanted02:54
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paul__chuang you can change your resolution options with the command i gave you, but first you have to open a terminal02:54
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xml-blogcan anyone shed a little light on a kernel-related question for me? :)02:55
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thundrcleezeI can try.02:55
thundrcleezeI'll probably fail, though, so don't get your hopes up :)02:55
CrazyNormanhi02:55
xml-blogthanks. I noticed that the standard ubuntu install configures me to run the 2.6.10 386 kernel02:55
kentxml-blog, though, if you dont have enough light in your room, you should probably get a lamp ;)02:56
CHUANGpaul__: ok...well i know i'm logged in... how 2 open terminal with keys02:56
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xml-blogbut I'm running a P4 and was wondering if it's a good idea to try to run the 686 jernel02:56
paul__click on "sessions'  select terminal02:56
thundrcleezexml-blog, yes.02:56
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CHUANGcan't see anything to click...screen is black02:57
thundrcleezexml-blog, the 686 should help anything above a P-10002:57
xml-blogkent, the illuminati are *here* :)02:57
spanglesontoastwhat the command for package installing02:57
xml-blogthundrcleeze, can I just use synaptic?02:57
thundrcleezexml-blog, yes.02:57
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iceman2KShoot, may have to toast my ubuntu install ... how to add openmosix ... to the install02:57
thundrcleezexml-blog, if there's any problems when you reboot, you can always go back to any other kernel you've got installed.02:58
paul__chuang try  ctrl-alt-backspace and select terminal in sessions before you log in02:58
thundrcleezespanglesontoast, you mean "sudo apt-get install"?02:58
apollo2011I bought a 120GB Western Digital hd today and put it in an old Dell PC and installed Kubuntu on it to use it as a Samba File Server for my other Linux/Windows pcs.  Install went fine but when I try to boot, it comes up with grub and doesn't actually boot.  Just show a console with "grub>".  I can't figure out anything to type to force it to boot...02:58
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spanglesontoastno02:58
spanglesontoastpkg02:58
spanglesontoastsomething02:58
xml-blogthundrcleeze, will it affect any other stuff I may have configured? thanks for the info! one last thing, if I do have problems, how do I go back to the 38602:58
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CrazyNormanHi02:59
spanglesontoastfor installing debs02:59
CHUANGok02:59
xml-blogwhy doesn't the installer auto-detect the best kernel?02:59
thundrcleezexml-blog, it shouldn't, as far as I know.  I've switched several times and there's no problems. the 686 version is simply optimized.02:59
cthulfuegoxml-blog: There is no "best kernel"02:59
xml-blogcthulfuego, by best I mean most optimized for my hardware03:00
cthulfuegoxml-blog: That will be the one you compile yourself.03:00
thundrcleezexml-blog, if you use grub, it should list "Ubuntu Linux i686" and "Ubuntu Linux i386" or something to that effect.03:00
JStrikeAnd when he says optimized, he means barely03:00
spanglesontoasttell me how to install .debs03:01
spanglesontoastplease03:01
JStrikexml-blog : It really doesn't make much difference03:01
xml-blogso by the sound of it, it's almost not worth the trouble?03:01
thundrcleezespanglesontoast, I think it's dpkg -i  nameofpackage.03:01
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JStrikespanglesontoast : dpkg -i some.deb03:01
thundrcleezexml-blog, it couldn't hurt, and it's easy.03:01
spanglesontoastty03:01
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JStrikexml-blog : Not really03:02
xml-blogwell, I will have to setup the build environment all over again and recompile my ivtv drivers...03:02
JStrikeDont believe gentoo users and their "optimization" crap03:02
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spanglesontoasthow can I force it to overwrite depencies03:02
xml-bloghaha03:02
thundrcleezexml-blog, I haven't had to reconfigure anything after I switched the kernel version.03:02
cthulfuegoxml-blog: There *is* a libc6-686 package with a slightly optimised libc, you mayw ant to consider that.03:03
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iceman2Kwhats current kernel for ubuntu03:03
JStrikespanglesontoast : You dont want to do that03:03
thundrcleezespanglesontoast, there is a command, but I'm not sure you want to do that.03:03
iceman2Kwhat is the kernel ? 2.x ?03:03
xml-blogcthulfuego, I have that lib already03:04
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CrazyNormanI've been running Ubuntu great for months now, and all of a sudden my internet is going really slow (at the same time, the internet on my windows laptop is as fast as ever).  I've read to disable ipv6, so I set the options in firefox based on the howto (so that firefox won't use ipv6).   Firefox continues to load pages much slower (stuck on resolving host for a while) than my Windows pc. ...03:04
spanglesontoasthow about ignore a certain depencies03:04
CrazyNorman...The symptoms are the same as people having the Ipv6 problem, but it just started now, without any change I can think of (except that the auto-updated installed a new kernel image).  I'm at a loss of how to solve it.  Any ideas?03:04
apollo2011I bought a 120GB Western Digital hd today and put it in an old Dell PC and installed Kubuntu on it to use it as a Samba File Server for my other Linux/Windows pcs.  Install went fine but when I try to boot, it comes up with grub and doesn't actually boot.  Just show a console with "grub>".  I can't figure out anything to type to force it to boot...03:04
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[freebsdok so like. i just ran dist-upgrade with a sources.list to get from warty to hoary, and now my keymap is effed up so i cant even use the right half of my keyboard. how bad am i effed?03:04
iceman2Khow do you id your kernel ?03:04
Fackamato2iceman2K: uname -a03:05
xml-blogjust out of curiosity, thundr, cthul, what kernels are you running if you don't mind me asking.03:05
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xml-blogthundrcleeze, sorry I meant JStrike. I see you are running the optimized kernel03:06
thundrcleezexml-blog, I'm running the newest 686 version of it.03:06
[freebsdok so like. i just ran dist-upgrade with a sources.list to get from warty to hoary, and now my keymap is effed up so i cant even use the right half of my keyboard. how bad am i effed?03:06
Fackamato2[freebsd: Yeah, you're fucked since you're spamming.03:06
spanglesontoastanyone know much about fglrx?03:06
JStrikexml-blog : Why would you think that? As I said, "optimized" is over-rated03:07
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iceman2KFackamato2   2.6.10-5-386 dang no module for openmosix for 2.6.10 only for 2.6.11 and 2.6.0903:07
CrazyNormanDoes anybody know what can cause the internet to run *much* slower on Linux than under Windows (standard ethernet through router through DHCP)?03:07
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xml-blogJStrike, no I meant I saw thundrcleeze is running optimized. I'm just trying to weigh the pros and cons. surely there must be *some* benefit, no?03:08
JStrikexml-blog : Hardly03:08
hardcampa-Nothing wrong with optimized.03:09
spanglesontoastcan anyone help me with my current xorg.conf?03:09
hardcampa-as long as it's stable03:09
iceman2KAnyone installed a openmosix kernel in ubuntu ?03:09
Fackamato2spanglesontoast: Help with what?03:09
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[freebsdFack: your an asshat :)03:09
spanglesontoastwell I want a bigger resolution03:09
CrazyNormanJust checking, is anybody getting my messages, or am I still not registered correctly with the nick server?03:09
cesar_CrazyNorman : stupid question probably , but you have a other computers using your conection ? , like a internal LAN network ?03:09
JStrikespanglesontoast : What is wrong with it03:09
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spanglesontoastwell when I assign it to fglrx driver03:09
CrazyNormancesar_: A few, but not currently downloading.03:09
spanglesontoastit gets really small03:10
CrazyNormancesar_:(or uploading)03:10
JStrikespanglesontoast : What is fglrx driver?03:10
cesar_you have been upgrading your firefox ? you could try to change your internet browser03:10
cesar_just to see , if is firefox or something else03:10
spanglesontoastit's a driver that has 3d accelerated etc03:10
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spanglesontoastbasically I use it for cedega03:11
xml-blogJStrike, depressing news. :( I was hoping to see a nice  boost. though I guess I shouldn't really complain since I got a huge boost when I switched over from XP.03:11
CrazyNormancesar_:Konqueror and Links are no good either03:11
naliothCrazyNorman: i have 2 ubuntu machines (1 x86 & 1 ppc) and 1 OSX machine and they all run fine online03:12
spanglesontoastbut the resolution sucks03:12
CrazyNormannalioth:Mine has been, so I wonder what killed it.03:12
spanglesontoastand I cannot change it while in gnome03:12
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CrazyNormanHave other people gotten a kernel update through the update system recently?03:12
cesar_me03:12
cesar_and all works fine03:12
xml-blogJStrike, thundr, one last q: my machine at work is also running ubuntu and it's a dual processor P4 Xeon  --- would a different kernel (or any other really obvious tweak) make a difference there?03:12
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spanglesontoastguess no one cares03:13
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cesar_i have 1 computer with ubuntu and 3 more with Windows . . . and all works fine :P03:13
JStrikespanglesontoast : Sorry, dont know anything about ATI other than their drivers are supposed to be terrible03:13
spanglesontoast- one other reason to go back to fedora.........03:13
spanglesontoastah oks03:14
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cesar_could be some problem with your router :P , i cant figure anything else03:14
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CrazyNormank03:14
naliothxml-blog: would think a smp kernel would really help only with heavy loading03:14
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xml-blognalioth, or deamons03:14
naliothxml-blog: heavy lift daemons?03:15
arentieIs there anyone available to help me install my WLAN card?03:15
hardcampa-ehm what? An smp kernel always helps if you got dual or more03:15
cesar_spanglesontoast: probably you will have the same problems with Fedora , i recently change to Ubuntu and i cannot complain ;)03:15
xml-blognalioth, I run apache for development at work I would imagine it could perform better with an SMP kernel03:15
naliothxml-blog: yes, sure it will help03:16
hardcampa-xml-blog. Of-course. A server running smp is way better to handle loads and fast incoming connections than any single cpu machine03:16
JormundgandFedora has some nice advantages over Ubuntu but the advantages of Ubuntu outweigh the disadvantages.03:16
JStrikespanglesontoast : Maybe run dpkg-reconfigure on your sxerver, and then make the neccesary changes to get it to work with fglrx03:16
JormundgandExample: I had immense difficulty setting up Samba on Fedora - a breeze under Ubuntu.03:17
spanglesontoastso it's just dpkg-reconfigure03:17
spanglesontoastinto the terminal?03:17
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thundrcleezexml-blog, seriously, it only takes a second to install the kernel, and you're not overwriting the old one.03:17
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cesar_spanglesontoast: you tried asking uncle google about your problem , it could be some text about it03:17
DekaPinkWell, that totally didn't work out well.03:18
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abarbacciahey all - hows it going03:19
spanglesontoastjstrike what command is it to do that what you said03:19
xml-blognalioth, hardcampa, JStrike, thundrcleeze: thanks. really. the community makes ubuntu great. I think I may try the 686 although I've been disabused of my great expectations. seems like a quick apt-get can't hurt much. :) goodnight03:19
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naliothxml-blog: i've always run smp kernel in my dually machines, but unless you are runnin major operations, ya won't see much diff03:19
DekaPinkI just tried to install ubuntu on a partition... and then it said something about copying to the drive failing, and then I couldn't get back on my Windows. :303:20
iceman2KAnyone able to help me install openmosix ... ? please03:20
xml-blognalioth, thanks. it's not like it's slow or anything I just like to get as much as I can out of my boxes which is why I chose linux over windows in the first place.03:20
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JStrikespanglesontoast : Not sure what the hoary command would be, but on breezy it is"dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"03:20
leo_Does anyone know how to, uh...03:20
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Crono57888Enable03:21
Crono57888Sound via the soundcore?03:21
Crono57888I have no idea what that means03:21
DvChWiHi. I'm getting a Del 700m in a few days and am considering installing Ubuntu.  However, reading around on the forums seems to indicate that the install has issues on this model.  Whats the latest?03:21
JStrikespanglesontoast : Have you followed the instructions on http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto and at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=356703:22
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iceman2Kshoot how to install openmosix on ubuntu ...03:22
spanglesontoastnot the forum post03:23
spanglesontoastI'll brb03:23
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JStrikespanglesontoast : Did the dpk-reconfigure help?03:23
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Crono57888Anyone know how to do this?03:23
Crono57888Turn on sound support (soundcore module, default turn on)03:23
qqq_Hya, I have a .deb file which has some dependancies.. it's in debian packages list, can I automatically install it's dependancies in ubuntu03:24
bluefoxicyany ideas why OOo2 crashes in breezy when touching menus?03:24
cesar_gtg , cya to everyone !03:24
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spanglesontoastwell still playing with it03:24
cesar_bluefoxicy: seems that breezy has a lot of problems :P03:24
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JStrikebluefoxicy : Look at the topic03:24
spanglesontoastok done03:24
spanglesontoastbrb03:24
jedikhi03:24
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DNA`so why ubuntu grew to become very famous?:D03:25
bluefoxicyJStrike:  no help03:25
[freebsdi dunno.. its nothing too special03:25
[freebsdi just use kubuntu cuz its debian + 3.4 kde03:25
JStrikebluefoxicy : ?03:25
jedikdna.. dunno i downloaded it when someone suggested it to someone else on hardforum's03:25
bluefoxicyJStrike:  it doesn't explain the issue to me03:25
DNA`[freebsd and you dont use freebsd?;)03:25
StRDNA`: because  they send you original CDs...03:25
JStrikebluefoxicy : You shouldn't be using breezy03:25
bluefoxicyJStrike:  i know that.03:26
bluefoxicyonly breezy has nvu though  :P03:26
DNA`StR too bad i downloaded it ;D03:26
bluefoxicyJStrike:  and I needed the 2.6.12 kernels too03:26
DNA`maybe its famous because ubuntu is for humans :P03:26
JStrikeDNA` : It's a distro that follows Gnome very closely in philosophy03:26
bluefoxicy(the 2.6.10 ubuntu ones freeze about as much as Win98 under load)03:26
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StRDNA`: LOL.... it's ok if you don't want to wait for the CDs to arrive03:27
bluefoxicyJStrike:  and I wound up doing a lotta updates :P03:27
DNA`JStrike yeah i noticed, and i love gnome more than anything in its domain ;] 03:27
[freebsdk so i cant log in again.03:27
[freebsdbad?03:27
bluefoxicyand before I knew it I had full breezy03:27
JStrikebluefoxicy : Well, then you are in trouble until it stabilizes03:27
bluefoxicyJStrike:  reinstall huh?03:27
spanglesontoastwell it changed my driver03:27
bluefoxicy(I have a separate /home so I can reinstall daily without detriment)03:28
spanglesontoastbut still my res I cannot change03:28
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JStrikebluefoxicy : Yep03:28
DvChWiHi. I'm getting a Del 700m in a few days and am considering installing Ubuntu.  However, reading around on the forums seems to indicate that the install has issues on this model.  Whats the latest?03:28
JStrikespanglesontoast : Did you choose the fglrx driver during the reconfigure?03:28
JStrikespanglesontoast : I had the same issue with my nvidia card at some point. I am trying to remember what I did03:29
spanglesontoastyea03:29
bluefoxicyJStrike:  I'll try installing the newer abiword devs03:29
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bluefoxicydamnit03:30
JStrikespanglesontoast : Have you had a look the forum I link to?03:30
bluefoxicyno autopackage03:30
JStrikeautopackage is nice03:30
spanglesontoastyea03:31
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spanglesontoastfglrxconfig is nothing to do with xorg03:31
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JStrikespanglesontoast : Look in /var/log/Xorg.log or something similar and see if it mentions any problems03:33
raDeon<303:33
JStrikeMaybe an out of range error03:33
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entropyanyone know why http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports is down? is there a mirror i can use?03:33
JStrikespanglesontoast : I remember what the issue was with mine. My monitor settings were wrong03:34
tidalwav1hi room...is there a way to easily upgrade to the latest version of Firefox, rather than use the ubuntu repository's outdated 1.0.2?03:34
spanglesontoastdon't think theres any problem with it03:34
tidalwav1guess no one knows. :P I'll try later.03:35
bluefoxicyARGH03:35
JStrikespanglesontoast : Your horizontal and vertical refresh rates are wrong I think03:35
bluefoxicyhow do I get autopackage03:35
bluefoxicyhelp me03:35
lotusleaftidalwav1 you could download the tar from mozilla's site but if you remove mozilla/firefox from synaptic you lose yelp03:35
JStrikespanglesontoast : What sort of monitor do you have?03:35
tidalwav1...yelp?03:35
lotusleaftidalwav1 yupm yelp03:35
spanglesontoastgateway vx70003:35
NicPtidalwav1: are u sure you have an outdated version?03:35
JStrikebluefoxicy : What do you mean?03:35
bluefoxicyJStrike:  autopackage03:36
bluefoxicyhttp://autopackage.org  -->  http://www.abisource.com/download/development.phtml03:36
tidalwav11.0.2 is outdated. the latest is 1.0.4. I just ran apt-get upgrade, and have universe and multiverse enabled in the apt list. Still 1.0.2.03:36
NicPyou can get 1.0.4 off backports03:36
lotusleaftidalwav1 just download it from mozilla's site and install it yourself it's easy03:36
NicPbut use that at your own risk03:36
tidalwav1it won't mess with ubuntu's settings? or something like that03:36
JStrikebluefoxicy : What is wrong with 1.0.2?03:37
entropysecurity holes03:37
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lotusleaftidalwav1 as I said, you can download 1.0.4 from Mozilla's site and use it just fine, but if you remove mozilla/firefox from synaptic it will want to remove yelp too03:37
tidalwav1okay.03:37
tidalwav1thanks for your input.03:37
bluefoxicyJStrike:  ?03:37
lotusleaftidalwav1 yw03:37
bluefoxicyJStrike:  1.0.2 of what?03:37
useruseruserwhat's the easiest way to install mplayer?03:37
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lokthere is a way to have extension with ubuntu's firefox03:38
bluefoxicyJStrike:  searching for autopackage in synaptic returns null.03:38
JStrikebluefoxicy : I was looking at the wrong post03:38
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_Church_Of_Foamyanyone know if you can replace the palm os with a linux os on the palm m130?03:38
_Church_Of_Foamy<----has linux on ipod03:38
JStrikebluefoxicy : Download the autopackage from the abiword site03:38
bluefoxicyJStrike:  and then what?  there's no autopackage in ubuntu is there?03:39
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lokgo in your about:config and change the value for the general.useragent.vendorSub to 1.0.403:39
JStrikebluefoxicy : No, why should there be03:39
spanglesontoastgateway vx70003:40
spanglesontoast?03:40
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cralost:D03:40
useruserusermplayer, anyone? is my best best to compile it myself?03:40
david_what up03:40
bluefoxicyJStrike:  because the current abiword in breezy is 2.2.7 and 2.3.0 handles OASIS/OpenDocument03:40
cralosthi everyone03:40
JStrikebluefoxicy : Enable it as an executable, and then run sudo abiword-2.3.0.x86.package03:40
danko123456hello,//03:40
lokuseruseruser, to have win32 codecs ?03:40
danko123456I just screwed up that computer Ive been trying to fix....03:40
bluefoxicyJStrike:  oh, it doesn't need a program to do it?03:40
useruseruserlok: well, to have mplayer installed is my first target03:40
entropyi just did this http://ubuntuguide.org/#mplayer03:41
JStrikebluefoxicy : No03:41
useruseruserentropy: thanks, i'll take a look03:41
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lokuseruseruser, then juste apt-get install mplayer or use synaptics03:41
spanglesontoastyou muppet autopackage03:41
spanglesontoastis inside the program03:42
JStrikebluefoxicy : Nice, isn't it03:42
bluefoxicyJStrike:  oh, wow.  Heh :)03:42
JStrike?03:42
bluefoxicyroot password.  :/03:42
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useruseruserlok: yeah, i didn't realise it was in ubuntu (i'm used to debian) :)03:43
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useruseruserlok: although w32codecs has no installation candidate :(03:43
naliothuseruseruser: are you on an x86 machine?03:43
useruserusernalioth: yes03:43
cralosttotem-xine works fine03:43
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cralostdivx503:43
cralostetc03:43
bluefoxicyamazing03:43
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naliothuseruseruser: and the apt-get path doesnt lead you to mplayer nirvana?03:44
david_linux is so different from windows03:44
spanglesontoastjeez03:44
spanglesontoastautopackage is a winner03:44
useruserusernalioth: apt-get path?03:44
raDeondavid_, and you're ugly.03:44
raDeonoh, i'm sorry, i thought we were having a state-the-obvious contest03:44
useruserusernalioth: i ran apt-get install a-bucket-load-of-packages w32codecs libdvdcss and it said it couldn't install the last two03:44
DNA`no i am the only ugly person03:44
spanglesontoastopen transport tycoon03:44
spanglesontoastI played that years ago03:44
raDeonDNA`, you are one of them, but not the only one03:44
dr_willisdavid_,   and thats a good thing.03:45
dimeoanyone know how to send inline images in email with Kmail?03:45
raDeonlink for open transport tycoon please03:45
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danko123456no empathy for my poor computer??03:46
cralost!03:46
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, cralost03:46
raDeonlink for open transport tycoon please03:46
raDeonlink for open transport tycoon please03:46
raDeonlink for open transport tycoon please03:46
DNA`raDeon i'm the ugliest then, is perl in ubuntu or i should apt-get it?03:46
naliothuseruseruser: have you upgraded your repositorys?03:46
spanglesontoasthang on03:46
spanglesontoasthttp://www.familie-kirchhofer.de/openttd/autopackage/03:46
useruserusernalioth: yeah03:46
raDeonDNA`, yes03:46
spanglesontoastI love this03:46
bluefoxicywow, I like that heh.03:46
useruserusernalioth: also, now that mplayer is installed, it says "Illegal instruction" whenever I run mplayer somefile.mp3 :((((03:46
spanglesontoastby the way eventally getting my mum to use linux03:46
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DNA`:}03:46
bluefoxicyJStrike: that's quite possibly the best thing ever.03:47
bluefoxicyJStrike:  now if only I could write an autopackage for doom3 ;)03:47
bluefoxicyand give it to ID03:47
useruserusernalioth: in fact, it says Illegal instruction if I just run mplayer with no options03:47
DNA`its illegal because you stole those mp3s03:47
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useruseruserDNA`: no, i think it's illegal because i have an ancient cpu03:48
lokuseruseruser, mplayer print the help if you just tipe mplayer03:48
spanglesontoastor you could convert them into ogg03:48
spanglesontoast:D03:48
useruseruserlok: not for me.03:48
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lokto have a GUI type gmplayer03:48
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DNA`:)03:48
lokspanglesontoast, do not convert mp3 to ogg03:48
spanglesontoastwhy not?03:49
useruseruserlok: my cpu lacks mmx2 and sse2, which the ubuntu mplayer appears to require :(03:49
ghpolosomeone uses serial port to dump kernel info to another computer ?03:49
Blackhrt:s03:49
lokinsteed your mp3 are at a hight rate of quality03:49
danko123456no empathy for my poor broken computer?03:49
spanglesontoastsurely theres a loop hole03:49
spanglesontoastin the law03:49
lokuseruseruser, try to compile it then03:49
useruseruserlok: guess so03:50
naliothuseruseruser: then by all means, compile it by hand03:50
lokspanglesontoast, when you convert a mp3 in ogg you lose quality03:50
spanglesontoastso03:50
spanglesontoastanyways03:50
spanglesontoastI'll brb03:50
naliothuseruseruser: make sure you use the ./configure --help thang, so you can see all the nicetys that are available03:50
lokif your mp3 is not a high quality one03:50
lokthen keeping mp3 encoding is more advised03:51
timelyxnalioth: do you have some time?03:51
spanglesontoastlok I thought thr project got rid of sounds that humans cannot hear03:51
^thehatsrule^gah, :/03:51
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loknot exactly03:51
spanglesontoastok brb03:52
naliothtimelyx: time for what?03:52
iceman2Kcan anyone help me install open mosix on my ubuntu system03:53
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dimeowhats mosix?03:55
timelyxnalioth: i'm looking for a list of all changes ubuntu did not make for it's "firefox1.0.2" when it backported firefox1.0.403:55
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spanglesontoastok well that did something03:55
spanglesontoastj03:55
timelyxdimeo: google says grid computing...03:55
naliothtimelyx: sorry, i don't use firefox03:56
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dimeoooh sounds uber powerful... almost as good as quantum03:57
bluefoxicy## END OF STUB03:57
bluefoxicy^_^@\uffffC\uffffB^@^03:57
useruserusertimelyx: guess you want to look at the changelog03:57
timelyxnalioth: but you use ubuntu, right?03:57
bluefoxicyfrom the abiword 2.3 autopackage03:57
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timelyxuseruseruser: url?03:57
naliothtimelyx: timelyx yes, i use galeon (no flames, please)03:58
loktimelyx, and how you look at that ?03:58
dr_willisbluefoxicy,  --->  Our latest development release is version 2.3.0. Development releases are aimed at developers, or people willing to test unstable software.03:58
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timelyxlok: at what? curl url03:58
dr_willisbluefoxicy,  :P peraps stick to the older/stable?03:58
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timelyxnalioth: your browser choice is up to you03:58
useruserusertimelyx: download the package, unpack and it should be somewhere in the deb. at least it's like that in debian03:58
bluefoxicydr_willis:  abiword often doesn't display things with images so great03:58
timelyxuseruseruser: i'd like to avoid doing that if at all possible03:59
useruserusertimelyx: debian packages also have changelogs on the web - dunno about ubuntu03:59
naliothtimelyx: not sure where the devs keep their lists of what they use and what they don't03:59
bluefoxicydr_willis: while OOo typically drops most if not all images from word and RTF docs; butchers what images are left; drops headers and footers from both; and doesn't handle any styles or formatting properly and instead displays basically a text document03:59
useruserusertimelyx: you don't have to install it - you could download the deb and look instide03:59
useruseruser*inside03:59
timelyxuseruseruser: i don't have apt handy03:59
lokuseruseruser, the changelog may juste list the patch applied but not what they do03:59
bluefoxicydr_willis: RTF and DOC are the only 2 formats Abi and OOo share.03:59
naliothtimelyx: you don't need apt03:59
timelyxnalioth: ok, does pax work?03:59
bluefoxicydr_willis:  Abi2.3 has preliminary support for OpenDocument, but it seems to freeze it.03:59
naliothpax?04:00
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naliothtimelyx: pax?04:00
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PupenoKWhat's the standard way to get Micro$oft fonts on Ubuntu (I need Comic Sans) ?04:00
naliothtimelyx: debs are openable with rar, zip, 7z, other04:00
timelyxDESCRIPTION04:00
timelyx     Pax will read, write, and list the members of an archive file, and will04:00
timelyx     copy directory hierarchies.04:00
naliothPupenoK: search using synaptic for mscorefonts or somehting like that04:00
timelyxok, so, it's a zip, is there a way for me to find the http url for this zip?04:01
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danko123456archives.ubuntulinux.org04:01
danko123456nope wrong04:01
danko123456http://archive.ubuntu.com/04:02
timelyxa direct url would be appreciated04:02
danko123456http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mozilla-firefox/04:02
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timelyxthere are hundreds of distros out there, and it sucks that i'm expected to fish through each of them to fiind out which changes they've made04:02
timelyxthanks :)04:02
danko123456welcome.04:02
timelyxSafari cant open the page http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mozilla-firefox/ because it could not connect to the server archive.ubuntu.com.04:03
danko123456why are you expected that?04:03
danko123456remove the ?04:03
danko123456:)04:03
timelyxwhat ?04:03
dsdHow can I restore my Xorg.conf file? I ruined it and now I cant start Ubuntu, what is the command to restore the file so i can start the graphical version of ubuntu04:03
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dsdany help would be apperciated thanks04:03
loktimelyx, I don't uderstand what you want to know about this package ?04:03
dr_willisarchive.ubuntu.com   --- i see some funky chars at the end. :P04:04
danko123456why safari, anyhow.04:04
timelyxDr_Melectaus: those are fancy quotes04:04
PupenoKnalioth: thanks.04:04
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danko123456dsd: dpkg --reconfigure xorg something, anyone know?04:04
dr_willisheh - they look like a suberscript 2 and 3 to me.04:04
timelyxlok: i want to know what changes between mozilla.org firefox1.0.2 and mozilla.org firefox1.0.4 are not in ubunutu's current "firefox1.0.2" package04:04
lokyes but why ?04:05
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timelyxbecause i'm a mozilla developer and want to know what things your package maintainers think were *not* security related04:06
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dsddanko, what was the command?04:07
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danko123456just a sec, I am working on it...04:08
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newbbiehi all04:08
danko123456hey04:08
dsdthanks danko04:09
danko123456yup...no luck so far, Im getting there, tho.04:09
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Prediusdanko123456, what's the problem?04:10
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m4lc0mcan anyone help me with this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=193338#post19333804:10
Burgundaviatimelyx, you need to speak with thom04:10
Burgundaviatimelyx, he does ff for Ubuntu, but he is currently on vacation today04:10
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danko123456Predius: what was the command for reconfiguring X?04:11
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dsd1hey danko, i got disconnected did u say anything while i was reconnecting04:11
danko123456dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg04:11
danko123456man04:11
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danko123456not that.04:11
spanglesontoastnothing JStrike04:12
spanglesontoastwon't load it up04:12
danko123456dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:12
danko123456is it, dsd04:12
spanglesontoastsays it's unsupported04:12
dsd1whats it danko?04:12
danko123456dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:12
dsd1thats it?04:12
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danko123456sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg yes, taht will guide you throguh the setup, not sure if that is exactly what you need, but yes, that is what I think you should do.04:13
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dsd1this is what i found in a forum : u got any error (u cannot go in graphical mode) dont worry couse gedit always creates a backup of edited files (in this case xorg.conf~) so restart pc, in grub select recovery mode, when finished loading type "cp /etc....../xorg.conf~ /etc..../xorg.conf" and restart04:13
dsd1i dont exactly get what that command is04:13
danko123456do you have that file there, tho?04:13
dsd1yes i do04:13
dsd1i have the conf~ file also04:13
danko123456ls /etc/X1104:13
danko123456well, then thats easy.04:14
Prediusguys, what do yoy generally recomend for mail servers?04:14
dsd1this person replied with this I ended up teaching myself the "mv" command, and the rename didn't wanna work for me. ex. "mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf~ /etc/X11/xorg.conf" Hey, it worked, and that's why matters. lol. God It's a pain learning this new command line for when I screw up. lmao.04:14
newbbiean anyone help me? I don't know if this is a bug in synaptic or if I am defently just a moron when it relates to GNU/Linux (I'm a new user)... I can't install a .deb package from my cd-rom... synaptic says it doesn't find any packages in the cdrom (which has one)...04:14
danko123456dsd1: nice:)04:15
PrediusDid you write a CD with a package?04:15
Prediusor is it an install package?04:15
Predius*cd04:15
dsd1so just to make sure...do i just type in "mv /etc/x11/xorg.conf~" and im done?04:15
newbbieI wrote a CDRW with the package file04:15
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Prediusnewbbie, #mount /cdrom04:16
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danko123456dsd1: mv needs two parameters.04:16
naliothnewbbie: the pkg on your cdrom is probably older than what is already on your system04:16
Prediusthen go into /cdrom04:16
danko123456mv source destination04:16
Prediusdpkg -i xxxx.deb04:16
PrediusWhatever the name of the deb is.04:16
danko123456mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf~ /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:16
Prediusnalioth, it's not an install CD.04:16
dsd1danko, so would it be mv /etc/x11/xorg.conf~ /etc/x11/xorg.conf?04:17
dsd1ah yes ok good :-)04:17
PrediusI've always wondered why rename never worsk.04:17
danko123456that is what you need, but...I mean, that will get you the the one in /etc/x11/xorg.conf~ so make sure that is the one you want, you can view/edit it first.04:17
danko123456Predius: come on...04:17
newbbiejust checking... do I have to include ".deb" after the package name?04:17
dsd1danko, how would i view/edit it first without having the graphical interface04:17
Predius=D04:18
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danko123456yeah, use tab completion, newbbie, start typing, hit tab04:18
dsd1i cant get into ubuntu because of my xorg.conf file is breaking my boot process04:18
newbbieah, ok...04:18
danko123456dsd1: there are command line editors, nano, pico, vi emacs?04:18
danko123456...04:18
dsd1im sorry im a complete newb to that how would i use it04:18
newbbiethank you Predius and danko... I'll try that then...04:18
danko123456but, also, displaying a file works with cat /etc/x11/xorg.conf~ | more04:19
danko123456that is maybe what you should do....04:19
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danko123456cat displays supplied file, and more lets you read it page by page/line by line.04:19
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danko123456so view the file, and somehow make sure it is the right one...04:19
danko123456well, it cant be worse...04:19
danko123456newbbie: welcome.04:20
dsd1ok so first, i should check the conf~ version to see if it is the correct file i want to load up, then i do the MV command and voila it should load ubuntu correctly?04:20
danko123456dsd1: no need to be sorry, I didnt know it 25 years ago neither...jj, im 22.04:20
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dimeois there any way to verify that both my usb ports are active in ubuntu?04:20
danko123456have a usb mouse?04:20
truz24are there any mathematica clones ?04:20
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dimeomy USB printer isn't being detected it's an hp photosmart04:20
danko123456http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html04:21
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danko123456search for mathematica04:21
danko123456everyone, bookmark that site, nice site....04:21
dr_willisdimeo,  it a scanner/printer?04:21
maxy_noobis there a quicktime version or codec equivalent of quicktime I can install?04:21
dimeoit's a p1000 photosmart printer04:21
danko123456maxy_noob: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats04:21
dsd1ok danko, thanks a million i hope this works :-/04:22
danko123456we need a bot again, I believe.04:22
dimeounder the properties it says printer not connected04:22
danko123456I hope so too, so thats too.04:22
danko123456let me tell you a short story tho...04:22
Prediusdimeo, lsusb04:22
maxy_noobdanko123456, thanks!04:22
dsd1sure04:22
dimeowill try04:22
Predius#lsusb04:22
Prediusas root, that is04:22
dr_willisdimeo,  some of the complex hp printers need that hpog (or somthing like that) service to be seen right.  about all i know aobut the, :O  cant help much more04:22
dr_willishploj ? hplj. I forget. :(04:23
dimeolsusb gives me  Bus 002 Device 010: ID 046d:c00e Logitech, Inc. Optical Mouse04:23
dimeoBus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:000004:23
dimeoBus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:000004:23
danko123456I am fixing this older hp computer for a girl...and, it has 64 megs of ram...and I buy 128 more to boost the performance,...and I break one of the RRAM slots while installing it, but I manage to get the 128 in there....so..... I boot up, and nothing is any faster:)04:23
dsd1lmao hahahahah04:23
danko123456so, that will make you feel better even if your attempt fails a little04:24
dimeowait wiggle wiggle:  Bus 002 Device 010: ID 046d:c00e Logitech, Inc. Optical Mouse04:24
dimeoBus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:000004:24
dimeoBus 001 Device 005: ID 03f0:3002 Hewlett-Packard04:24
dimeoBus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:000004:24
dimeook so it sees the printer there04:24
danko123456funky hp case, man, it is packed in there...04:24
danko123456http://207.161.57.251/comp/04:24
dsd1lol04:24
Prediusyou should try googling the model for linux04:24
Prediusi don't print, =D04:24
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maxy_noobeverytime I try to update my repository I get the following error message: The repository might be no longer available or could not be contacted because of network problems. If available an older version of the failed index will be used. Otherwise the repository will be ignored. Check your network connection and the correct writing of the repository address in the preferences.04:25
dsd1alright danko...ill be back if something goes wrong :-) take care thanks alot i apperciate it bro04:25
maxy_noobI get this even when synaptic says my repository is out of date04:25
danko123456maxy_noob: do a cat /etc/apt/sources.list and paste it to http://pastebin.com please04:25
danko123456dsd1: thanks, see ya.04:25
tron_hello04:25
danko123456tron_: hi!04:26
tron_how configure my keyboard?04:26
xyzxHey guys is there a tutorial about virtual hosting with ubuntu?04:26
danko123456tron_: more info, please.04:26
dimeopredius, any suggestions?04:26
maxy_noobdanko123456, ok ... and thanks04:26
tron_danko04:26
Predius#apache, xyzx04:26
tron_my english is very bad04:26
danko123456ok, then post the URL here, and I will give yuou advice04:26
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tron_my problem is04:26
Prediusspanish? french? italian?04:26
tron_no special caracters in my keyboard04:27
danko123456tron_:  I see...but, you can try, if you want to...04:27
tron_i need configure my keypad04:27
danko123456System>Preferences>Keyboard, or equivalent in your language04:27
Prediuswhat's the model of the printer dimeo?04:27
lampshadeRAH04:27
tron_one moment danko04:27
lampshadeHow is everyone?04:28
danko123456I think he is chinese, right? in asia anyhow I think by the IP.04:28
maxy_noobdanko123456, done04:28
danko123456I am fine, I screwd up a computer a little earlier, thanks for asking04:28
danko123456ok, then post the URL here, and I will give yuou advice04:28
tron_negative danko1234504:28
lampshadedanko123456:  It happens04:28
danko123456maxy_noob: ^04:28
danko123456lampshade: sure did:)04:28
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maxy_noobdanko123456, yes?04:28
danko123456welcome back, chameleon...04:29
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danko123456maxy_noob: ok, then post the URL here, and I will give yuou advice04:29
tron_i can no configure in preferences04:29
maxy_noobI posted it on pastebin04:29
[Chameleon] danko123456: thanks04:29
danko123456well, sure, turn it off:)04:29
tron_i speak spanish04:29
dimeodevice manager detects it.  It's an HP  p1000 printer.04:29
tron_the problem04:29
dimeoThe status under properties says : printing: Printer not connected; will retry in 30 seconds..04:30
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tron_dificult to me change to spanish ubuntu chat04:30
danko123456tron, can you post a screenshot of your screen somewhere?04:30
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maxy_noobdanko123456, you don't see it?04:30
danko123456give me hte URL, I need that to see it.04:30
tron_one moment04:30
kvidellchrist al lmighty04:31
danko123456ok04:31
danko123456whats up, kvidell?04:31
kvidellGOOG closed at $266 today (+$11)04:31
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danko123456well...whatever...:)04:31
maxy_noobdanko123456, I posted the thing you asked me to do on pastebin.com04:31
Nulaanyone here uses webDAV + Subversion + Apache2 with Ubuntu 5.04??04:31
Prediusi speak spanish04:31
NulaI think the libapache2-svn is broken04:31
danko123456yes, I kno, I need the url for it, maxy_noob.04:31
tron_predius04:31
Prediustron, que teclado?04:31
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tron_no me salen algunos caracteres04:32
danko123456he needs to set up spanish characters on his keyboard, I think...04:32
Nulaand it seems to me this bug is a bug that happily came from the debian package maintainers error to Ubuntu04:32
Prediuscuales?04:32
maxy_noobOh, I posted as maxynoob, but whatever. Here's the url: http://pastebin.com/29246304:32
tron_signo de numero y arroba04:32
tron_entre otros04:32
danko123456tron_: maybe this helps, too: http://www.guia-ubuntu.org/hoary/doku.php04:32
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Predius./join #ubuntu-es04:33
danko123456I need the URL, tho, I cant search...:)04:33
tron_ok danko thank's04:33
danko123456welcome:)04:33
maxy_noobdanko123456, http://pastebin.com/29246304:33
tron_predius04:33
danko123456maxy_noob: hey, check this out...04:33
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tron_this is the problem04:33
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tron_no change to ubuntu spanish04:33
danko123456canada, eh? Im in winnipeg:)04:33
tron_no caracter special in my keyboard04:34
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tron_no possible to me04:34
Crono57888Does anyone know how to turn on sound support?04:34
maxy_noobdanko123456, check what out?04:34
danko123456http://www.guia-ubuntu.org/hoary/doku.php?id=espanolizar_ubuntu#como_traducir_hoary this page has some instructions, Predius, right?04:34
tron_change chat channel04:34
danko123456maxy_noob: its coming...04:34
maxy_nooboh04:34
Crono57888Or get into the soundcore module or something?04:34
tron_oh oh04:35
danko123456sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and then replace everything in there with what is on this page: www.mts.net/~danb/sources.list then save, close, and sudo apt-get update04:35
naliothdanko123456: you da man!04:36
danko123456nalioth: I try, not too bad...I guess, I broke a RAM slot earlier tho...04:36
maxy_noobdanko123456, was that last one for me?04:36
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danko123456yeah, sorry04:36
maxy_noobk, thanks!04:36
danko123456k, should work.04:36
danko123456you have the backports, you dont need those...04:36
tron_ok boys04:37
tron_thank's04:37
tron_greetings04:37
maxy_noobdanko123456, replace everything?04:37
danko123456yeah, I would that is my sources.list04:37
maxy_noobcool, thanks04:37
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danko123456tron_: ttyl!04:37
dimeogonna try a reboto04:38
dimeoreboot04:38
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danko123456reboto is cool too...04:38
Crono57888What is soundcore?04:38
anathemacan anyone thing of an idea i'd be getting this error:  ./simpserver: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory04:38
maxy_noobdanko123456, cool! What did it do?04:38
anathemawhat file does it need04:38
maxy_noob:D04:38
danko123456you made your repositories have all the possible official ubuntu repositories...04:39
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anathemame?04:39
johnnybezakhey guys04:39
maxy_noobcool04:39
anathemaanyone know about that error?04:39
Crono57888Anybody? Soundcore?04:39
J35U5sup johnnybezak04:39
danko123456anathema: did you install sudo apt-get install build-essential ....time, please:)04:39
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maxy_noobwould something equivalent to quicktime be in there?04:39
anathemayes danko12345604:39
danko123456you sure? sounds like that is the error, try again...:)04:40
anathemaim 100000% sure build-essential is installed04:40
danko123456maxy_noob: I told you the URL for that, www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats04:40
danko123456ok...04:40
Crono57888Please? Anybody? What is soundcore, how do I enable sound support...?04:40
maxy_noobdanko123456, sorry04:40
danko123456thats fine.04:40
danko123456anathema: whats this simpserver anyhow, apt-gettable?04:41
PrediusGuys, do any of you have experience on running mail servers?04:41
maxy_noob(y)04:41
anathemadanko123456, this error happens when i try to run a command, im not trying to compile anythign04:41
anathemano, unfortunatly04:41
danko123456Crono57888: sound doesnt work? more info?04:41
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maxy_noobdanko123456, thanks man. I'll check it out04:41
danko123456k, welcome04:41
johnnybezakwill there be a hula package in breezy?04:41
JDahl_anathema, what is simpserver, and how did you install it?04:41
johnnybezakwheres the roadmap?04:41
anathemadont need to 'install04:41
anathema'04:41
Crono57888danko123456,  yes, I'm trying to install sound drivers for my Alizea chipset04:41
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Crono57888The 1st instruction is04:42
anathemaits just a binary you download..and its an encryption proxy for msn/aim04:42
anathemaetc04:42
Crono57888Turn on sound support (soundcore module, default turn on)04:42
Crono57888And I don't know what that means...04:42
danko123456anathema: yeah, still its complaining about the libstdc++..04:42
anathemayes04:42
danko123456johnnybezak: http://pastebin.com/292469 ...that is in hoary..04:42
anathemaim just tryin to run the binary and its giving that error04:42
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danko123456can you link us, anathema?04:43
anathemato the tgz file? sure04:43
danko123456k04:43
anathemahttp://secway.fr/resources/setup/simpserver/simpserver-2.1.5a-linux-x86.tgz04:43
Crono57888Er...04:43
Crono57888Azalia chipset04:43
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kalenedraelok, i just came over to kubuntu from fedora core 3 and i have been having some very irritating problems04:44
anathemasmall binary if yu wanna try it danko04:44
danko123456that is not a binary...04:44
danko123456:)04:44
johnnybezakdanko123456: thanks man04:44
danko123456its a source file...isnt it?04:44
zenroxkalenedrael, got to #kubuntu04:44
anathemano04:44
danko123456johnnybezak: that is in hoary, tho...04:44
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kalenedraelgoing...04:44
anathemajust a binary that you run04:44
anathemanothing compiles04:44
garnertrevening all ... :)04:44
sondarn, gaim is down04:44
anathemayou just run the binary and it works04:44
johnnybezakdanko123456: yeah>?04:44
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anathemathe old version worked..04:44
danko123456johnnybezak: so you can install that from hoary, then?04:45
danko123456hey, garnertr.04:45
danko123456oh, youre right, anathema.04:45
anathemadoes it not work for you either?04:45
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garnertrhey danko! :)  Having a great day today; Ubuntu is screaming on my laptop and I was a able to listen to a music cd and watch a dvd and a vcd... now that all my issues are fixed,  I don't have anything to complain about.. :)04:46
danko123456anathema: this is the error I get, tho: http://pastebin.com/292470 .04:46
Dr_MelectausDid some one want me?04:46
danko123456garnertr: nice:)04:46
danko123456I broke a RAM slot in another computer tho...:)04:46
garnertrlast week I was unable to do so, for some odd reason ubuntu didn't "see" my dvd/cdr installed and after yesterdays security patch upgrade, it worked... yeah! :)04:46
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danko123456did we want you, Dr_Melectaus?04:46
danko123456nice, garnertr, gotta ahve faith:)04:47
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Dr_Melectausi was watching a dvd in full screen. its just finished and someone had said my name as the chan tab was highlited blue04:47
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Dr_Melectausscrolled up but it doesnt go back far enough04:47
garnertrtrue..04:47
danko123456maybe someone did.04:47
naliothDr_Melectaus: choose. us or DVd04:48
naliothDr_Melectaus: lol04:48
danko123456:)04:48
danko123456nalioth: I talked to your buddy today, houstontx....04:48
danko123456william04:48
danko123456and I was about to see into it with him, but he left...04:48
anathemadanko123456, it will work if you put it in /usr/local/simp/04:48
danko123456into his speed problem.04:48
danko123456put the whole file?04:48
danko123456ugh...dir?04:48
anathemathe simp dir04:48
Dr_Melectausnalioth, :O DVD. its charlie angels 2, dam. cameron diaz got her top off  ;(04:48
danko123456kk, sec04:48
anathemaput it in /usr/local04:49
maxy_noobcan someone tell me how to get to the Synaptic repositories dialog box04:49
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anathemaanathema@wheinbox:/usr/local/simp/bin$ ./simpserver04:49
anathema./simpserver: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory04:49
anathemadamnit04:49
anathemawhy wont it wokr :(04:49
anathemawhat file is it looking for!04:50
danko123456maxy_noob: um...Packages>Repos.04:50
danko123456not working here, tho...why you want it?04:50
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maxy_noobPackages?04:50
danko123456maxy_noob: there is a packages menu on the top, isnt there?04:50
danko123456anathema: you were right, it did, http://pastebin.com/29247304:51
anathemadoh04:51
anathemathats what i want to see04:51
maxy_noobI only have Applications, Places, System04:51
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anathemabut instead i get the above error :(04:51
anathemaany idea why ?04:51
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danko123456maxy_noob: well, what are you doing, you said to see the repos in synaptic.04:51
danko123456ah,...04:51
danko123456open synaptic, then do Packages>repos04:51
maxy_noobI know where Synaptic Package Manager is but the directions on that wiki site you sent me doesn't seem to follow the menus of that program04:52
danko123456anathema: did you sudo apt-get install build-essential since we started speaking?04:52
garnertrsorry; playing around here... how does one get your stats changed in X-Chat?  Mine is showing info that is incorrect (country, ip address...yikes)....04:52
anathemano, but i searched for it, its installed04:52
anathemawant me to reinstall it04:52
anathema?04:52
danko123456please do that command, yes.04:52
danko123456it will not install if it is already fine04:52
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anathemabuild-essential is already the newest version.04:53
dbernar1k, that means its fine...04:53
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dbernar1just a sec...04:53
maxy_noobFor instance, wiki site says that in the Synaptic repositories dialog box, I should click Add and then Custom, but I don't see "Add"04:54
anathemaany ideas danko123456 ?04:55
naliothmaxy_noob: the terminal is your friend04:55
maxy_noobnalioth, I believe that, dude, but presently we're not on speaking terms.04:55
maxy_noob:D04:55
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moyogomaxy_noob: ? no Add button?04:55
danko123456maxy_noob: open synaptic, settings, repositories, done that?04:55
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maxy_noobdanko123456, yes04:56
danko3anathema, just a sec, plese.04:56
anathemasure04:56
anathemathanks04:56
naliothmaxy_noob: huh?04:56
moyogomaxy_noob: do you have hoary?04:56
maxy_noobmoyogo, no add button04:56
maxy_noobyes, 5.0404:56
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moyogomaxy_noob: can you show us a screenshot?04:56
Mahlwhats the best yet easiest to configure firewall program out there04:57
naliothmaxy_noob: a simple "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" will get you what you want, w/o the button pushing and confusion04:57
maxy_noobnalioth, thanks man. I'll try that.04:57
danko123456well, garnertr should have a longer attention span... http://xchat.org/faq/ .04:57
maxy_noobnalioth, btw, by not being "on speaking terms" I meant, I don't know the commands so that I can befriend the terminal04:57
naliothmaxy_noob: then welcome to the terminal04:58
maxy_noob:D04:58
johnnybezakhey guys im trying to ssh into my computer across the room and its giving me something about changed rsa keys how do i change this?04:58
danko123456 locate libstdc++.so anathema.04:58
moyogojohnnybezak: edit your .ssh/know_hosts file04:58
naliothmaxy_noob: btw, the commands at the bottom of the screen, after you get nano up are <ctrl+>whateve letter it says04:58
danko123456Mahl: well, we tend to use firestarter I think.04:58
anathemaok04:58
anathemaits ther04:58
anathemae04:58
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anathema/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/3.3.5/libstdc++.so04:59
naliothmaxy_noob: nano is a purty simple text editor04:59
moyogojohnnybezak: a quick hack is to remove the line mentioning that machine04:59
danko123456 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6?04:59
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paulproteusjohnnybezak: Well, if you're sure that they should have changed, you should read the message that it printed.04:59
anathemanope04:59
anathemadoesnt exist04:59
anathemahmmmm04:59
paulproteusIt says, in part, "remove the line from .ssh/known_hosts".04:59
anathemajust .504:59
danko123456ok, well, lets see.04:59
paulproteusSo, edit $HOME/.ssh/known_hosts.04:59
anathemaand the regular .so04:59
danko123456pc, btw?04:59
anathema/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5.0.704:59
anathemathats the highest ver i have04:59
gbicanyone here know how to fix a sound issue with cs:s? when I try to run cs:source it says hardware sound is in use...I have changed config to use alsa instead of oss05:00
gbicI have disabled sound server on startup also05:00
anathemai found it in apt danko12345605:00
anathemagonna install it05:00
danko123456good, do so.05:00
MahlThanks alot danko12345605:01
maxy_noobI'm just installing all related quicktime files05:01
danko123456mahl, what did I do again:)05:01
MahlSome user was able to trace me to my home adress05:01
danko123456ah, I remember05:01
Mahlable to get personal information of me just by "tracing" me05:01
danko123456nice... awful... loser guy, I guess...05:01
MahlI asked him to05:02
Mahltesting security05:02
anathemanice, it works05:02
anathemawoo05:02
danko123456oh, ok...05:02
danko123456nice, anathema, you learned to look in synaptic...:)05:02
anathemahaha actually i misread the error05:02
lampshadewell it is pretty freaking easy to find a lot of people's houses just with their IP.  There are a ton of websites that do it05:02
danko123456nice...05:02
anathemai thought libstdc was looking for some other file05:02
maxy_noobeveyn when I do that, Firefox tells me I'm missing plugin05:02
anathemabut not listing it05:02
anathemahaha05:02
danko123456hehe...05:02
danko123456maxy_noob: what are you trying to do?05:03
danko123456please dont edit your sources.list, I gave you the best ones there are05:03
johnnybezakmoyogo: thanks05:03
maxy_noobI'm trying to run stuff that uses the quicktime pluggin05:03
danko123456ok, in web pages?05:03
maxy_noobdanko123456, yes05:03
danko123456that may not be possible, sory to say...05:03
danko123456giveme a link, Ill tell you if it is:)05:03
maxy_noobreally?05:03
lampshadedoes mplayer handle that?05:03
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danko123456yes, but not gracefully, sorry to say05:04
danko123456yes, maxy_noob really, it may work, tho, please tell me the link05:04
lampshademeh, quicktime isn't that gracefull with quicktime I'd say..05:04
maxy_noobhttp://www.apple.com/trailers/05:04
naliothmaxy_noob: the sorenson codec that is in modern quicktime is not supported by libquicktime (i believe)05:04
moyogojohnnybezak: no prob05:04
danko123456oh, it is, do try a Mac:)05:04
danko123456ok, maxy_noob I need at least 4.05:05
danko123456muibnutes, that is05:05
maxy_noobmuibnutes?05:05
danko123456minutes, read between the lines:)05:05
maxy_noobhahahahaha05:05
danko123456ok, here goes.05:05
maxy_noobsorry05:05
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danko123456no need to be sorry:) IM just a jerk...05:05
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maxy_noobdanko123456, jerks don't help05:06
lampshadeI have the worst mosquito bite on my ankle05:06
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dr_willisAmputate!05:06
[Chameleon] dr_willis: LOL05:06
lampshadeThat may be my only option05:06
Mahlok danko123456 i got it up and running...hope it works05:06
iceman2Kanyone installed openmosix on ubuntu05:07
maxy_noobdanko123456, btw, was it you who told me couldn't share his internet connection with network pc's?05:07
dr_willisTourniqute! suck out the Posion!05:07
[Chameleon] lampshade: you need a radical mastectomy05:07
danko123456sure we do:)05:07
danko123456maxy_noob: yes!05:07
danko123456dr_willis: another lol here...05:08
maxy_noobdanko123456, I figured it out with crimsun's help05:08
iceman2KI need help installing openmosix on my ubuntu system .. anyone able to help ?05:08
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danko123456maxy_noob: cool, Ill note to ask him, I guess, if you dont know...:-/05:08
lampshadeiceman2K:  sudo apt-get install openmosix?  DOes that work?05:08
maxy_noobWell, I kinda do05:08
iceman2Klampshade nope ... tried ..05:09
maxy_noobWell, I know what worked for me.05:09
danko123456k, tell me about it...Ill read it...05:09
lampshadethat's what I do most the time, just randomly guess apt-get program names05:09
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maxy_noobFor me, entering dns addresses got the ball rolling.05:09
danko123456aha, which ones?05:09
iceman2KPackage openmosix is not available, but is referred to by another package.05:09
iceman2KThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or05:09
iceman2Kis only available from another source05:09
maxy_nooband static ip's.05:09
danko123456which dnss, tho?05:10
lampshadeiceman2K:  You might just have the name slightly wrong.  try apt-cache search openmosix  and see if you get the thing you really need05:10
maxy_noobSystem > Administration > Networking > DNS05:10
maxy_noobI used the first two05:11
danko123456aha, well, which dns servers, tho...what numbers?05:11
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iceman2Kopenmosixview - A graphical tool to manage an openmosix cluster05:11
danko123456oh, the ones that are there...05:11
danko123456kk.05:11
maxy_noobyep05:11
iceman2Kneeds openmosix to install that pacage ..05:11
danko123456been there, iceman2K: http://openmosix.sourceforge.net/ ?05:11
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maxy_noobMake sure to enter static ip, subnet mask, and gateway05:12
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danko123456ok I will sure try that, thanks for the info...05:12
iceman2Kdanko123456 been there .. dont see instructions worth a dang05:12
maxy_noobdanko123456, no problem.05:12
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Orunitiaoookay, I broke gnome-terminal somewhere in the settings, is there any way I can get to gnome-terminal's settings without opening it?05:12
maxy_noobdanko123456, did you get the quicktime trailers working?05:12
maxy_noobI hope breezy has the license to distribute these.05:13
danko123456k, just a sec...no, they will not.05:13
thr1cemplayer will play .mov05:14
maxy_noobbummer05:14
danko123456iceman2K: how about... http://mcaserta.com/openMosix-for-drones/ ?05:14
danko123456just a sec, tho...05:14
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nernhi05:16
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danko123456hey, nern...05:16
maxy_noobinstalling mplayer05:16
nalioththr1ce: older codec mov05:16
danko123456maxy_noob: again, I fail at making it work in the browser...05:16
thr1cenalioth: huh?  I compiled mplayer today and watched a .mov05:16
maxy_noobdanko123456, ok man.05:16
maxy_noobthanks for trying.05:17
danko123456http://images.apple.com/movies/paramount_classics/apres_vous/apres_vous_m320.mov is teh URL of a file from one of those trailers...05:17
maxy_noobI'm going to try mplayer05:17
danko123456im not done, tho, this time I am gonna make it work, or kill it.:)_05:17
iceman2Kwhy does this have to suck so much trying to install ... shoot . toast ubunt and install cluster knoppix ? dang it05:17
nalioththr1ce: you watched a quicktime from apple.com/trailers?05:17
thr1cenalioth: no, I only read being able to play a .mov05:17
thr1cesorry :(05:17
K_Dallasmplayer has no counterpart, even under Windows it is way more powerfull than anything else i have ever tried05:17
danko123456vlc is ok, I am not sure of all the great things mplayer can do...05:18
danko123456maxy_noob: this will help with Mplayer, make sure to follow step by step... http://ubuntuguide.org/#mplayer .05:18
maxy_noobK_Dallas, but does it work seamlessly as a plugin for FF?05:18
] BreliC[yeah, mplayer can play lots of stuff, but it's flaky05:18
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] BreliC[vlc appears more solid05:18
rg58smahi05:18
K_Dallasis ff for subtitles?05:18
rg58smay have a ploblem with mi repos05:19
maxy_noobFirefox05:19
maxy_noobFF = Firefox05:19
K_Dallaswell i never needed plugins for any browser so i wouldnt know05:19
rg58smaubuntusetup.sh05:19
danko123456rg58sma: we are here to help...05:19
rg58smay download this file and i run05:19
rg58smaok thanmks05:20
rg58smahave problem05:20
rg58smawith05:20
rg58smawait me05:20
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danko123456sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and then replace everything in there with what is on this page: www.mts.net/~danb/sources.list then save, close, and sudo apt-get update05:20
rg58smaErr ftp://ftp.nerim.net testing Release.gpg05:20
rg58sma  La conexin expir [IP: 62.4.17.14 21] 05:20
danko123456that fixes repository problems.05:20
rg58smaand another05:20
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danko123456and, nerim is not needed, do you need it?05:20
maxy_noobNo unfortunately, mplayer doesn't play stuff off the quicktime trailer site05:21
iceman2KThe following packages have unmet dependencies:05:21
iceman2K  openmosixview: Depends: openmosix which is a virtual package.05:21
rg58smafor what is nerim???05:21
iceman2Kanyone know what a virtiul package is05:21
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striderhey05:21
] BreliC[i have my nForce4 mobo working fine under Ubuntu (heh, actually picked up *everything* whereas Windows picked up nothing!)... is there a reason for me to install nForce drivers?05:21
rg58smaErr ftp://ftp2.caliu.info hoary-extras/multiverse Packages05:21
rg58sma  Imposible traer archivo, el servidor dijo 'Security: Bad IP connecting.  '05:21
rg58smaObj ft05:21
maxy_noobIt's weird that browser plugins don't work easily in Linux.05:21
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danko123456please do what I told you above, rg58sma your sources will be fine then.05:22
thr1ce] BreliC[: if it's not broke, don't try to fix it05:22
stridercan someone help me to find info to solve  problem with my cdrom05:22
danko123456iceman2K: it is a package that refers to other packages,, like a package of packages. I think.05:22
] BreliC[thr1ce, yeah, that's what i always think, but just wondering if it actually provides anything extra05:22
rg58smaok05:22
danko123456maxy_noob: so so weird...05:23
rg58smabut i have installed ubuntu in spanish05:23
danko123456sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and then replace everything in there with what is on this page: www.mts.net/~danb/sources.list then save, close, and sudo apt-get update05:23
rg58smabecause im argentinian05:23
iceman2Kdanko123456 how can i find a download site with the package ?05:23
thr1ce] BreliC[: um...unless you're video isn't working properly05:23
rg58smais the same??05:23
stridereach time I mount cd rom I get like 10 CD-rom windows spaning05:23
nernwow05:23
maxy_noobanyone know of plugins that work with Firefox in Linux?05:23
danko123456also, you can change the URLs in that file to use mirrors for argentina, please cat /etc/apt/sources.list and paste that file to http05:23
nernflash05:23
nerni think that about the only one i have working05:24
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danko123456http://pastebin.com and tell me the URL you get05:24
danko123456that is all for you rg58sma.05:24
rg58smawget file in  /etc/apt is the same or replace the text in file05:24
nernthe windows media i still dont have working either05:24
rg58smawith gedit05:24
danko123456ok,05:24
] BreliC[maxy_noob, i have videos playing in FF.. is that what you're after?05:24
IcemanV9maxy_noob: all plugins work (only if u follow the instructions at ubuntuguide.org)05:24
rg58smais the same???05:24
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danko123456rg58sma: please cat /etc/apt/sources.list and paste that file to http://pastebin.com and tell me the URL you get05:24
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danko123456] BreliC[: yes, it is, how?05:25
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iceman2Kdanko123456 no source list for virtual packages05:25
] BreliC[danko123456, i followed the help at ubuntuguide.org and it worked fine05:25
nerni think i might try a bsd05:25
nernany recommendations?05:25
] BreliC[the only thing that doesn't work are newer .mov files05:25
nalioth] BreliC[: you x86 guys have all the fun05:25
nerni mean one of my friends says openbsd and the other says netbsd and i was kind of thinking of going with the big guy freebsd, but i dont know05:26
] BreliC[nalioth, you on mac?05:26
danko123456iceman2K: well, did you read the newbie page on their site?05:26
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danko123456] BreliC[: is that the trailers at apple.com,  I think it is, newer .movs, right?05:26
rg58smapastebin dont work??05:26
iceman2Kdanko123456 on who's page ?05:26
] BreliC[danko123456, yes... they don't work for me05:26
adoyretsamonrafb.net05:26
danko123456again, well, use http://pastebin.ca05:26
danko123456http://mcaserta.com/openMosix-for-drones/ iceman2K.05:27
nernno bsd savvy folk here? who would care to respond?05:27
rg58smahttp://pastebin.ca/1300205:27
rg58smadanko123456, http://pastebin.ca/1300205:28
iceman2Kdanko123456 oh, no .. a do  "aptitude install openmosixview ... and it wants a virtual package ...05:28
strideranyone here who can point me in the right direction?05:28
danko123456nern: well, try Ubuntu...:-p05:28
danko123456iceman2K: do a click ont he URL:-p05:28
Razor-Xanyone have advice to concatenate protected PDFs?05:28
danko123456k, second, please rg58sma.05:28
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Razor-Xthis isn't for any illegal purpose, I just want to have about 20 PDFs in one convenient file05:29
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Razor-Xso I can go print it in Kinkos05:29
Razor-X*at05:29
arvinHi,05:29
arvinI'm using the ubuntu distribution. I've been plagued with an irritating problem from the touchpad. Often a tap is treated as a middle button press (it pastes the clipboard buffer on whatever app I'm using ). I've tried to disable this thru xorg.conf by setting Emulate3Buttons to "false". However, the problem persists. Anybody got any ideas on this ?05:29
iceman2Kdanko123456 still need the aptitude file ... might be easier ...05:29
Razor-Xarvin: try the GNOME setup05:29
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Razor-Xnot sure about the workings of GNOME myself, though, since I'm a Kubunt user05:29
Razor-Xor, however you configure GNOME05:30
Razor-Xit's more than likely a GNOME issue05:30
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RastaMahataI have a big question...05:30
danko123456iceman2K: I would definitely read that page most surely.05:30
arvinrazor whats gnome05:30
danko123456pklease not too big...05:30
naliothl8r05:30
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RastaMahatacould I leave things downloading if I close my session?05:30
danko123456yes, on tty105:30
RastaMahatahow?05:30
Razor-Xarvin: ...............05:31
Razor-Xit's the Window Manager you're using05:31
danko123456please try alt+ctrl+f1 (alt+ctrl+f7 gets you back here...)05:31
RastaMahataNo, sorry, thats not what I meant05:31
iceman2Ktrue ...05:31
RastaMahataI'm downloading files in a remote system through ssh05:31
striderRazor-X  do you know where should I look to fix my cd rom problem (each time I put the CD in the multiple cd rom windows open up <try like 10 or so>)05:31
rg58smadanko123456,  but i replace my sources.list another you give to me05:31
Razor-XRastaMahata: start a screen session on the box05:31
] BreliC[RastaMahata, yes, by using screen05:31
iceman2Kdanko123456 g3torrent-debianize.diff how to open and run that05:31
arvinok so if i go into gnome..what do i do05:31
danko123456well, do the session through that terminal05:31
RastaMahataI want to keep that system downloading files, but I want to close my terminal05:31
Razor-XRastaMahata: and then quit05:31
Razor-XRastaMahata: when you relogin to the box, type in 'screen -dr'05:32
danko123456iceman2K: give me a few, I need to finish rg58sma.05:32
Razor-XI do that on this box, actually05:32
danko123456rg58sma: give me a few seconds, almost done05:32
Razor-X(am working through SSH now)05:32
RastaMahatascreen -dr ? whats that?05:32
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iceman2Kdanko123456 i understand05:32
] BreliC[Razor-X, don't you have to detach the session first?05:32
goldfishRastaMahata: http://f0rked.com/core/irssi05:32
Razor-Xstrider: you mean, multiple windows that show the contents of the cd?05:32
rg58smaok05:32
Razor-X] BreliC[: never have myself05:32
strideractually multiple CD-ROm icons on the desktop a well05:32
robert__Could anyone recommend a good web page editor please?05:33
Razor-XI just auto-quit it05:33
goldfishRastaMahata: Read the screen bit on that site.05:33
RastaMahatagoldfish, thanks05:33
arvini tried searching forums on ubuntu for the solutions, but none of them work05:33
Razor-XI myself use SSH for IRC alal the time05:33
goldfishnp05:33
Razor-X*all05:33
Razor-Xand a myriad of other things05:33
arvini still have the tap problem with my touchpad05:33
Razor-Xarvin: have you tried to edit your GNOME config?05:33
danko123456rg58sma: that is the file you want: http://pastebin.ca/13003 .05:33
striderRazor-X: actually multiple CD-ROm icons on the desktop a well05:34
] BreliC[arvin, is it a synaptic touchpad?05:34
goldfishyou should do ^a -d, to detach.05:34
arvinyes it is a synaptic05:34
Madpilotrobert__: try Bluefish or Screem, they're both in Syn05:34
arvini tried searching the forums05:34
danko123456then sudo apt-get update, and never change it again, unless you know what you are doing...05:34
robert__tks05:34
danko123456or keep a backup of this file.05:34
dna`should i enable universe repo to get mp3 support/flashplayer?05:35
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danko123456that uses your argentinian mirror for downloading the files, for maximum speed, rg58sma.05:35
danko123456dna`: yes.05:35
arvinrazor, is there a tutorial on how to edit my gnome config to identify my touchpad tap as just a left click?05:35
danko123456iceman2K: where were we:)05:35
danko123456anyhow, where is this fiel you are getting?05:35
dna`danko123456, is it secure though? :/05:35
danko123456dna`: I ahve it open all the time.05:35
arvini tried the ubuntu wiki for this synaptic touchpad problem, yet it didnt help.05:35
rg58smano05:35
dna`nice :)05:36
iceman2Kdanko123456 sec downloading the sourceforge file ..05:36
danko123456dna`: do you know how to edit your sources.list?05:36
dna`danko123456, yeah i do05:36
rg58smabut the mirror contains the same info??05:36
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rg58smai need w32codecs05:36
thr1ceanyone know how to display all of the symlinks my comp has?05:36
rg58smafor mplayer05:36
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Razor-Xarvin: not sure05:36
Razor-Xlike I said, I don't use GNOME myself05:36
arvinrazor, thanks anyways05:36
danko123456yes, it should, rg58sma,  try, then ask more if it does not work05:37
Razor-XI was googling a bit, though05:37
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] BreliC[arvin, i had that problem at one point with a synaptic touchpad, and i added a line to the grub booter and it fixed it... 'psmouse.proto=imps'05:37
dna`whats the package name for ati accelerated drivers?05:37
danko123456arvin: tried the forums?05:37
danko123456dna`: www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriver05:37
Razor-Xarvin: try GNOME Control Center, I guess?05:37
dna`i thank thee danko123456 !05:37
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danko123456I have never seen it work for someone, altho I know many ppl get it to work in the end.05:38
iceman2Kdanko123456 whats easy to install rpm's on ubuntu or binary's05:38
arvindanko, yes they all pointed me to edit the xorg.conf file05:38
rg58smathe source that www.mts.net/~danb/sources.list works05:38
arvinwhich ruined everything05:38
rg58smabut i dont have a mplayer05:38
danko123456] BreliC[ said something...05:38
rg58smaand another thing05:38
rg58sma like java05:39
danko123456rg58sma: please change yoru sources to this: http://pastebin.ca/1300305:39
danko123456It is argentina specific.05:39
arvinbrelic...how do i go about doing that in grub05:39
danko123456but, you will have mplayer, Ill tell you.05:39
] BreliC[arvin, edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst (you'll have to use sudo)05:39
danko123456after you change that sources, rg58sma, then sudo apt-get update05:39
rg58smafor what up or down05:40
rg58smaare the same??05:40
arvinok trying it right now...05:40
danko123456rg58sma: no, notice the ar.05:40
danko123456that is for using a local server...05:41
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rg58smawhat??05:41
rg58smawhat sources05:41
rg58smathe up or doiwn in pastebin page05:41
] BreliC[arvin, then on the entry for the Ubuntu boot entry, add it in the kernel line, somewhere after the /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.xx...05:41
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JasonFHello05:41
danko123456deb http://ar.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-updates main restricted universe multiverse05:41
JasonFI just installed hoary05:41
JasonFand my X Server is stuck at 640 resolution (yikes)05:41
danko123456taht means you get files from argentina, not from US...05:41
JasonFhow can I remedy this?05:41
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danko123456http://pastebin.ca/13003 has only one set....not sure what you mean...05:42
stonecrestJasonF: are other resolutions specified in your xorg.conf?05:42
IcemanV9JasonF: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:42
nernanybody like to recommend a bsd05:42
nerni want to try one05:42
danko123456read about them, best to do...05:42
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iceman2Kcrap  .. these instructions are outdated ...05:43
nernk thx05:43
danko123456welcome,.05:43
IcemanV9nern: freebsd.org05:43
iceman2Kjust need to find a  virtual package download site ?05:43
rg58smawhy #deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat testing main ??05:44
danko123456it is commented out # means you are not gonna use it.05:44
nernIcemanV9: so you would recommend FreeBSD?05:44
arvinok 2 questions for u brelic, i dont add it to recovery mode ubuntu only standard boot correct? and second question is do i add that line AFTER this entry05:44
arvin/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-386 root=/dev/hda3 ro quiet splash05:44
rg58smawhy #deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat testing main have a "#"05:44
danko123456# means you are not gonna use it.05:44
IcemanV9nern: i have used it for a long time. it is good BSD for noob. :)05:45
danko123456you dont need it, that is why you are not gonna use it.05:45
dna`whats the difference between universe and multiuniverse?05:45
rg58smawhat have this???05:46
nernIcemanV9: well good, i just so happen to have 5.4 burned already :)05:46
rg58smawhat are in nerim05:46
danko123456nothing for you at this time.05:46
danko123456I am not sure.05:46
IcemanV9nern: ha. well. enjoy, then.05:46
dna`multiverse i mean sorry05:46
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danko123456universe is open source software and multiverse is closed source.05:46
rg58smabut mplayer are there???05:46
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JasonFIcemanV9: thank you, although now I have to track down the refresh rates for my monitor05:46
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danko123456no, its n universe05:46
] BreliC[arvin, you don't need to add it to the recovery mode.  and second question, just add what i told you *to* that line, not a new line.. so /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-386 root=/dev/hda3 ro quiet splash psmouse.proto=imps05:47
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rg58smaok thanks05:47
rg58smaman05:47
rg58smayou are a good man05:47
danko123456welxcome05:47
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arvinalright got it brelic05:47
danko123456sudo apt-get update05:47
danko123456im a kid...2205:47
IcemanV9JasonF: sure. either from the manual or via google. you'll have the refresh rate.05:47
rg58smao05:47
robitailledanko123456,  for a bit more detail about universe vs multiverse: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/05:47
rg58smaim too05:47
rg58sma2205:47
rg58smawhere are??05:47
danko123456thank you.05:47
danko123456Canada, props to Maradona:)05:48
flankkother than scheduled release cycle and x.org, what else does ubuntu have that debian doesn't?05:48
iceman2Kopenmosix is a virtual package and how the hell to get it ...05:48
JasonFIcemanV9: google is how I used to always find it, for some god-forsaken reason, they took the refresh rates off the page05:48
JasonFIcemanV9: is there any other way to find otu05:48
danko123456dna`: see that link?05:48
rg58smajajjai05:48
arvinok thanks alot brelic05:48
arvinim going to try it out right now05:48
RastaMahatagoldfish, thanks for the screen toturial :D05:48
] BreliC[arvin, ok, good luck05:48
RastaMahatatutorial, too05:48
rg58smais the most amazing futbol player in the UNIVERSE and MULTIVERSE05:48
rg58smajajajaj05:48
danko123456hehe:) I saw a video recently, man, that guy could control the ball......and dance at the same time:)05:49
goldfishRastaMahata: np05:49
IcemanV9JasonF: not really. hate to say this, but did u use windows? if so, then you can write down the refresh rate.05:49
iceman2Kshoot how to run a ex file type ..05:49
goldfishRastaMahata: http://www.hn2.org/docs/tbg/screen.html05:49
JasonFI know  what refresh rate I want05:49
danko123456hey, rg58sma tried #ubuntu-es ?05:49
goldfishRastaMahata: thats a better one i was just informed :)05:49
JasonFI know I want to run 1152@75hz05:49
RastaMahatathanks :D05:50
JasonFbut I don't know the horizsync and vertrefresh05:50
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IcemanV9JasonF: what is ur monitor model??05:50
JasonFIcemanV9: hah! extracted it from the monitor .inf file download from their site05:50
JasonFMGC 17" something or other05:50
JasonFIcemanV9: brb, seeing if the new settings work05:51
IcemanV9JasonF: cool.05:51
danko123456iceman2K: um, more info?05:52
rg58smayes05:52
rg58smabut the level in not good like here05:52
danko123456yeah, I agree.05:52
iceman2Kvirtual package, dont know .. i aptitude install openmosixview and it tells me05:52
iceman2KThe following packages have unmet dependencies:05:52
dna`yes danko123456 thanks :)05:52
iceman2K  openmosixview: Depends: openmosix which is a virtual package.05:52
danko123456altho, I dont kno what they are talking about so I cant tell.:)05:53
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iceman2Ki aptitude install openmosix .. not found05:53
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arvinok it didnt work05:53
] BreliC[arvin, hmm...05:53
arvinit gave me an error05:53
danko123456why does make not work again, after configure?05:54
arvinunkown boot option05:54
rg58smawhat program use to make a download05:54
arvinignoring command05:54
arvinor something05:54
rg58smalike apt-get update05:54
rg58smain right time05:54
danko123456rg58sma: what are you getting, though?05:54
rg58smalike i go to bed05:54
] BreliC[arvin, really?  well, just take it out i guess, but it did work for me on an older install with a synaptic touchpad05:54
fishiehow do i install plugins for gimp? i tried gimptool command but that doesn't work05:54
rg58smaan a like what in 4 o clok my ubunto make a apt-get  upgrade05:55
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danko123456you can sudo apt-get dist-upgrade that updates your whole system.05:56
rg58smaok05:56
danko123456if you are installing a specific program, sudo apt-get install programName05:56
rg58smayes05:56
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rexykikf05:56
danko123456which one?05:56
danko123456g05:56
rg58smalike05:56
rg58smavarious05:56
rg58smaprogran05:56
rg58smatake 1 hours05:56
rexykikwhat is the command to make a fat32 filesystem? is it mkfs.vfat -F 32?05:56
iceman2Kmay just toast and install knoppixcluster ... has openmossix at install ...05:56
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fishiei need a perfection thunderbird theme05:57
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cyphasewhats the cron syntax to run "ScriptName -a bbb -b ccc -c ddd" every 10 minutes?05:57
iceman2Ki like ubuntu .. but want the openmosix cluster and network ability ... crud ...05:57
cyphaseiceman2k, same here05:58
dna`can someone who uses universe and multiverse send me his sources.list or paste it please? i messed mine up :(05:58
cyphasethat would be awesome05:58
rg58smadanko123456,  "PLAN" like plan05:58
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iceman2Kdna' you can just clic and turn them all on .. i did05:58
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cyphasedna`, i sent it05:58
dna`cyphase, argh my dcc is fubar ;/05:59
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cyphase1 sec05:59
cyphasebrb05:59
bigbill52adoes anyone know why the xserver crashes so completely that even the keyboard doesnt work and you have little square grey blocks on the screen05:59
arvinhmm ive been trying to figure out this synaptics thing for hours now, ive tried the forums and wiki but none of them have worked, instead of left clicking whenever i tap using my touchpad, it pastes my clipboard or opens up a tab in firefox wen i click i link05:59
iceman2Kdna' here is my sources .. file xfer to you ..05:59
dna`iceman2K, dcc doesnt work, can you email or paste please?06:00
iceman2Kdna' sure ..06:00
] BreliC[cyphase, */10 will give you every 10 minutes06:01
jack664614894why u alway say ubuntu is good06:01
jack664614894i don't think so06:01
danko123456I dont think so netiher, ubuntu is evil, but he hides it well...06:01
danko123456that is why everyone is like, ubuntu is good...06:02
] BreliC[so "*/10 * * * * Scriptname -a bbb"06:02
iceman2Kcyphase you been able to install openmosix on a ubuntu system06:02
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danko123456jack664614894: now, do you have anything we could try to help you with?06:02
iceman2Kmay just toast ubuntu ... hate to .. but no clear install instruction for openmosix ..06:03
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danko123456iceman2K: yeah, I tried to compile, it dont work...06:03
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Razor-Xdoes LTSP work in Ubuntu/06:04
Razor-X*?06:04
danko123456noone is here now that knows lots, though, so you can give it some time, too.06:04
JDahl_iceman2K, openmosix is that the package for clustermanagement?06:04
Razor-Xi'm planning on installing NTSP06:04
Razor-XJDahl_: one of them06:04
Razor-Xthere are many clustermanagement packages for Linux06:04
iceman2Kyes .. its a add on to the kernel for clustering ..06:04
Razor-X*LTSP06:04
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iceman2Kknoppixcluster has it preinstalled .. so does clusternix ..06:05
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Razor-Xgoddamned mice..... I can't stand them!06:05
JDahl_iceman2K, you can't really expect Ubuntu to have cracker-jack support for something like that - Ubuntu is still oriented towards desktop use06:05
Razor-Xstupid stupid pointing devices!06:05
Razor-Xwhy doesen't compilation work?06:05
arvinso anyone know the solution to my touchpad tapping problem or am i flat out of luck?06:06
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iceman2KJDahl try aptitude install openmosicview ... it in the repository ... but lacks a package to install06:06
Nulaarvin what type of touchpad?06:06
Nulaalps?06:06
Razor-Xarvin: post to the Ubuntu forums06:06
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Razor-Xiceman2K: compile it06:06
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cyphase] BreliC[, whats the syntax though? what should i out on the line06:06
rixthHmmm. My new SATA srive came today, now, when I go to install Hoary, I get "No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources"06:06
cyphaseim nor familiar with cron06:06
iceman2KRazor-X cant find a "how to " to walk me through06:07
JasonFhrm06:07
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JasonFiceman2K: I played with the numbers until I got a set that worked06:07
JasonFthanks.06:07
cyphaseput*06:07
JasonFnow, I get to enter the realm of dual-monitor setup w/nvidia06:07
bigbill52adid you do a search for syna in synaptic06:07
zenroxJasonF,  dual monitors rocks06:07
DekaPinkWell, I've got Ubuntu installed and working now.06:08
JormundgandI see no point in dual or more monitors.06:08
DekaPinkExcept I don't know how to go about setting up my internet connection.06:08
JormundgandOne monitor is perfectly sufficient.06:08
JDahl_iceman2K, In my experience - when you need something as special as that, you'll have to bite the bullet and dig through the documentation anyway; so you might as well compile it... I doubt other distros have point-and-click support for clustermanagement06:08
iceman2KJasonF aptitude wants a virtual package ...06:08
rg58smaplease tellme a script sheel to apt-get upgrade with out me06:08
danko123456crimmy: hi! how can we install openmosix?06:08
JasonFiceman2K: howso?06:08
DekaPinkCan anyone tell me what to do to set up my DSL? ^^06:08
Razor-Xiceman2K: you can't have a guide for it06:09
danko123456well, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade should work if you leave it06:09
Razor-Xif it's a kernel addon06:09
rixthHmmm. My new SATA (SCSI) drive came today, now, when I go to install Hoary, I get "No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources" I havn't found anything useful on this. I've had no problems installing Hoary on a 20gb IDE disc on the same computer.06:09
danko123456DekaPink: sudo pppoeconf06:09
iceman2KJDahl_ knoppiccluster ... live cd that boot and clusters at boot ... easy to get up ..06:09
Razor-Xthen, you have to make sure you have the kernel headers package06:09
Razor-Xadd the neccessary stuff to the kernel06:09
Razor-Xrecompile06:09
Razor-Xet viola, C'est Open-Mosix06:09
DekaPinkdanko123456: Thank you.06:09
danko123456welcome, hope t works, should.06:10
iceman2Kanyone know a different cluster package06:10
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JDahl_iceman2K, look at it this way: I bet you're one a of handful of people (at most) that have been looking for openmosix for Ubuntu... wouldn't you rather have devs spending time on other things?06:11
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iceman2KJDahl_ i'll take a different cluster package ..06:11
crimmyif you're interested in cluster support on Ubuntu, I urge you to read the MOTUTeams wiki page and process thusly06:12
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crimmyto proceed, rather06:12
danko123456urge?:)06:12
iceman2K;-)06:12
danko123456thanks, crimmy.06:12
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DekaPinkYay, that totally worked. :D06:14
hitestIs breezy really unstable that we shouldn't use it?06:14
crimmyhitest: yes06:15
DekaPinkNow Ubuntu is connected~06:15
hitestThank you.06:15
danko123456nice.06:15
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mcquaidhello06:15
zenrox<<>>> DO NOT INSTALL BREAZY UNLESS YOU WANT PROBLUMS06:15
IcemanV9DekaPink: wasn't it easy? :)06:15
danko123456crimmy: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MOTUTeams ? I have read the whole thing, and nothing on clusters...06:16
rixthHmmm. My new SATA (SCSI) drive came today, now, when I go to install Hoary (from the CDs made by Ubuntu...), I get "No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources" I havn't found anything useful on this. I've had no problems installing Hoary on a 20gb IDE disc on the same computer.06:16
crimmydanko123456: (start a team for clustering)06:16
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danko123456ah:)06:16
mcquaidi want to compile some software where obviously there are no debs available06:16
hitestI'm really liking 5.04, it has replaced Slackware 10.1 on my Plll IBM 66706:16
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mcquaidi used to just install the dev files or whatever i needed in deb sid and compile the software06:16
crimmymcquaid: for your personal use or for Ubuntu Breezy?06:16
Jormundgandzenrox: I get the feeling that's a touch extreme. Breezy for the most part is stable, but it has some annoying holes and certain configurations may well throw it.06:16
mcquaidfor hoary06:17
mcquaidfor myself though06:17
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IcemanV9hitest: way to go! :)06:17
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zenroxJormundgand,  but not for the average user06:17
mcquaidwhat i'd like to do is make proper debs instead of compiling and installing software in this deb distro06:17
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arvinhey if anyone would want to know for future reference i figured out the touchpad problem06:17
crimmymcquaid: then you'll need to read the Debian New Maintainer's Guide and the Debian Developer's Guide06:17
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danko123456Jormundgand: it is not for anyone that has no particular reason to use breezy, and who is content with hoary, and who is not someone who likes no headache computers...06:17
crimmymcquaid: *hint* Go with cdbs06:18
mcquaidi was looking over the deb maintainers guide, but i was wondering if there is an abreviated way of making debs where the software compiles with ./configure make make install without issue06:18
bigbill52awhat did you do arvin?06:18
danko123456arvin: post to forums, please!06:18
crimmymcquaid: see above hint.06:18
mcquaidcdbs?06:18
arvindanko, its already on the forums06:18
mcquaidnever heard of that06:18
hitestI like Slack, don't get me wrong, but, 5.04 plays better with all of my hardware.  Anyone know when the next stable release is coming out?06:18
danko123456ah, great.06:18
mcquaidi've tried checkinstall but dont like it06:18
arvinjust wondering if u guys wanted to know if somoene else asks here06:18
crimmymcquaid: and now you have. (Checkinstall is suboptimal.)06:18
danko1234565.10;)06:18
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IcemanV9hitest: october aka 5.1006:18
tjswhats up with firefox in hoary?06:19
hitestThank you, IcemanV9!!  :-)06:19
JormundgandAnd Ubuntu itself isn't without its annoying features, like the excessive tinkering with the packages. I don't like the ugly-as-hell logos for the customised Ubuntu versions of Firefox and Thunderbird and I want the correct logos in place, but I have no scope for that. Even the backports versions have the crappy "About" logos which defeats the purpose of backporting Firefox 1.0.4.06:19
danko123456tjs: exactly, whats up with it...06:19
bob2Jormundgand: er06:19
quailstertjs: I know, firefox stinks in hoary06:19
bob2Jormundgand: firefox and thunderbird have those logos because the firefox people insist on it06:20
rixthquailster, they failed to update the version numer too06:20
tjsdanko123456, goto http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/upgrade/ with your hoary firefox06:20
bob2Jormundgand: if you want the pretty windows logo, talk to them06:20
tjser06:20
mcquaidcrimmy, hmm the cdbs page is kinda lacking, not sure exactly what it is06:20
Jormundgandbob2: But I'd expect the About logo on a BACKPORTED version of the OFFICIAL Firefox to have the official logo, no?06:20
crimmyJormundgand: there's an entire debian-devel and debian-legal heritage behind those logos.06:20
tjstry installing an extension even06:20
Jormundgandcrimmy: Heritage doesn't decrease suck level.06:20
crimmymcquaid: install it and read the docs in /usr/share/doc/cdbs/why.html06:20
bob2Jormundgand: who knows what the backports people do06:20
crimmyJormundgand: it's required by upstream, not Debian or Ubuntu themselves06:20
bob2Jormundgand: talk to them if you want them to change the logo, but the real Ubuntu packages cannot use the nice logos06:20
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quailsterFirefox is really unstable in Ubuntu, maybe I should just compile it my own06:21
danko123456tjs: upgrade my firefox? cant do that...06:21
EircBroll roll roll your own06:21
Nulafirefox unstable in Ubuntu???06:21
Nulaheh06:21
danko123456tjs, I use other browsers, but I could I guess..06:21
bob2quailster: it runs for weeks for me, have you filed a bug?06:21
hitestFire Fox works fine for me.06:21
JasonFgah06:21
jasmuzquailster: Firefox has been great on my Ubunut06:21
mcquaidcrimmy, ok thx06:21
arvini just have one last problem, its regarding WPA encryption for wifi..i tried following this wikihowto but i cant figure out how to add wpasupplicant the instructions are very obscure06:21
arvinhttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WPAHowto06:21
NulaI'm sure the Ubuntu kernel inteferes with the firefox process06:21
tjshttps://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1068106:22
tjsthis is the issue with firefox06:22
quailsteryea, one time, everytime I type ' (single quote), it automatic goes to "Find"06:22
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tjsyou can nolonger download plugins/extensions for ubuntu hoary firefox06:22
Nulayou can06:22
Nulaopen firefox and type about:config in the url bar06:22
tjsI did that hack06:23
bob2tjs: wasn't that fixed?06:23
Nulait worked for me06:23
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rg58smawhat are the plugins for06:23
tjsstill didnt work06:23
quailsterThe thing is that I cannot recreate the situation, so I cannot report the bug06:23
danko123456tjs: I just installed it, you didnt know how, that is all....06:23
rg58smalisten a radio in webpage06:23
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skobelanyone know if its possible to get a wintv pvr350 to work in ubuntu?06:23
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bob2skobel: you need to find out what chipset it uses06:23
danko123456rg58sma: yeah, something like that.06:23
skobelbob2, how do you do that?06:24
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bob2skobel: read the box and/or look at the physical card06:24
bob2skobel: the instruction manual might mention it, too06:24
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rg58smahhtp://www.fmrockandpop.com/v2/vivo.htm06:24
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levenhsteinskobel, you might want to check out http://ivtv.sourceforge.net/06:25
rg58smahhtp://www.fmrockandpop.com/v2/vivo.htm im sorry06:25
Madpilothi all... are the Ubuntu Backports servers down? Synaptic just went a bit odd on me...06:25
jasmuzskobel: open a console and do a lspci command....give us the results of the card06:25
JormundgandThat's not supposed to happen.06:25
danko123456rg58sma: not everything works, though....06:25
JohnnyfavI'm using wine and I'm running Steam.....the username and password comes up but when I type in the fields...it's typing in the terminal...how can I fix this?06:25
skobel0000:02:02.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC15 MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01)06:25
mcquaidhmm this looks above me head right now06:26
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jasmuzskobel:  you will have too google it ...to see what you come up with...i dont know that card06:26
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jasmuzhttp://www.conceptlab.com/frog/ for all the geeks in the room06:26
bob2Madpilot: try asking on the forums, it's not run by any official ubuntu people06:27
levenhsteinskobel, definitively check http://ivtv.sourceforge.net/ (take Chris Kennedy's version)06:27
bob2Johnnyfav: does wine support steam? http:://appdb.codeweavers.com/06:27
danko123456jasmuz: for all the evil animal torturing geeks ;)06:27
MegaManXHi! Is there anyone familiar with cron?06:27
arvinanyone know how to configure WPA06:27
bob2Madpilot: best to just ask your question06:27
jasmuzdanko123456: that is just a dead frog ! :P06:27
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ellsanyone in here using gtkpod06:28
skobellevenhstein, which version is that?06:28
danko123456Madpilot: read the forums about that baskports thing, they moved the server.06:28
skobeldevelopment or stable?06:28
MegaManXHow would one add a cron job to run "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" automatically once every 24 hours?06:28
Johnnyfavsupport...it's runing fine...just can't type my password in06:28
Johnnyfavgrrrrrrrrrrrrrr06:28
bob2Madpilot: that's a bad idea06:28
bob2er06:28
bob2MegaManX: that's a bad idea06:28
ellshello, anyone using gtkpod for the ipod06:29
levenhsteinskobel, stable first06:29
Madpilotbob2: actually, that was the whole of my qestion! :)  I'll check the forums... thnx06:29
danko123456welcome:)06:29
MegaManXbob2, thanks for your reply. Is there a better way to keep a server uptodate without much intervention?06:29
bob2Madpilot: sorry, tab-completion screw up06:29
levenhsteinskobel, I haven't followed the unstable in a while but from their mailing list it seemed like it was stable enough06:29
bob2ells: no need to keep asking over and over06:29
ellsbob2, sorry, just wondering06:29
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ellsbob2, are you using gtkpod06:30
Madpilotbob2: no problem...06:30
DekaPinkHmmm...06:30
rg58smahhtp://www.fmrockandpop.com/v2/vivo.htm im sorry06:30
danko123456Jormundgand: now, that should not happen;..:)06:30
JormundgandAnyone else having trouble with X locking up when accessing the backports homepage in Firefox?06:30
bob2MegaManX: You need to keep an eye on upgrades to make sure they don't screw things up, I'd never be doing them automatically06:30
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skobelok thanks06:30
danko123456rg58sma: what about that, it dont work here...06:30
bob2Jormundgand: are you using ubuntu's firefox?06:30
Jormundgandbob2: backported 1.0.4.06:30
bob2ells: no, my music player just does usb-storage06:30
DekaPinkI'm following the Unofficial Ubuntu guide, and I put in the repositories file from there... and alot of them are giving me 403 errors?06:30
rg58smadont listen??06:30
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danko123456nope.  no music.06:30
MegaManXbob2, thanks mate :). I will keep doing it from ssh remotely then ;)06:31
crimmythe versioning on that backported 1.0.4 is horrendous06:31
danko123456I dont have those plugins installed.06:31
jasmuzDekaPink: seems like the backports mirror is down06:31
bob2MegaManX: what is handy is to do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -d upgrade", which downloads all the packages for automatically06:31
danko123456just a sec, rg58sma.06:31
DekaPinkjasmuz: Oh... So it isn't something stupid I'm doing, then.06:31
bob2MegaManX: then logging in and doing "sudo apt-get upgrade" manually...the packages are there, so it runs very quickly, plus you see if anything goes wrong06:31
ellsbob2, just trying to hook up my ipod using it06:31
ellsbob2, I reformatted using the apple tool06:31
ellsbob2, want to set it up right in ubuntu06:31
rg58smaok06:32
levenhsteinMegaManX, you can look at cron-apt too06:32
kestasMegaManX: you could always do the cron script, have it output to a text file and if it exits with a nonzero status send you an email with the results06:32
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jasmuzDekaPink: not at all...look for a mirror if you need something urgent or add Marillat's repositories06:32
bob2MegaManX: er, I mean, to do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -d upgrade" in cron06:32
JormundgandI'd use vanilla Debian if their logo weren't ugly as sin.06:32
JormundgandWhat is it with Debian and ugly logos?06:32
kestasbob2: doesnt cron run everything with root privs anyway? why use sudo?06:33
crimmyit's a legal reason, Jormundgand. This is not the first time bob2 and I have said as much.06:33
bob2kestas: depends if you add it to your or root's crontab06:33
bob2Jormundgand: dude, stop it06:33
ellsanyone here using gtkpod06:33
athlonhow to test whether my ISP block a certain port number ?06:33
arvinim trying to follow this step in making a script for WPA (step B) its asking me to make a script but i have no clue how to run or save it or even create it any tips on how to go about setting up WPA using this tutorial? http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WPAHowto06:33
bob2Jormundgand: the firefox people don't let Ubuntu or Debian use the nice logo06:33
jasmuzJormundgand: some think debian logo is ber, its a matter of taste06:33
danko123456rg58sma: I do not think it works in linux, anyone have a working mplayer in mozilla?06:33
bob2Jormundgand: if you want ubuntu and debian to use it, talk to the firefox people06:33
MegaManXThanks guys! very good idea ;). I've tried to add apt-get update && apt-get upgrade to the cron (crontab -e) but it looks like those are invalid commands. Does it have to be an executable script (like update.sh)?06:33
DekaPinkjasmuz: I don't suppose it's urgent, was just trying to install the stuff from the guide. :)06:34
MegaManXsorry, very new to this, not Linux in general, but never played with cron :)06:34
danko123456 Jormundgand what is it with you and logos:-p06:34
kestasbob2: well how are you going to enter your password if its running as a cron script?06:34
levenhsteinMegaManX, you have to give when you want the script to be ran06:34
bob2kestas: that is a good point06:34
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bob2kestas: I should have said to add it to root's crontab with no use of sudo06:35
bob2MegaManX: show us the whole crontab line06:35
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MegaManXlevenhstein, thanks. I've tried "crobtab -e", it opens an editor, where I added 00 **** apt-get update && apt-get upgrade (I know this is a bad idea now, I'm just showing what I'm trying to accomplish)06:36
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bob2MegaManX: you need spaces betwen the stars06:36
levenhsteinMegaManX, yep you need spaces06:36
kestasMegaManX: yep. spaces06:36
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levenhsteinMegaManX, seriously apt-get install cron-apt06:36
zacharyquestion: which file systems does ubuntu support06:36
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MegaManXcool, I will give a shot, let me try ;). Thank you all!06:37
danko123456anyone have a working mozilla-mplayer plugin?06:37
levenhsteinMegaManX, it's all done for you already, just edit some conf files so that it sends email and you can even force it to install the packages (not always a good idea)06:37
bob2zachary: all the mainstream ones06:37
danko123456to test something out...06:37
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bob2zachary: if you're going to ask about reiser4, -> #gentoo06:37
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MegaManXlevenhstein, thank you, I will apt-get it ;)06:38
JormundgandHmm. Okay, slightly noob-tech question: when you install a program in Linux, what happens? In Windows most of the program is found in the Program Files folder; how does this compare to Linux?06:38
zacharybob2: i don't have a clue what you are speaking about06:38
bob2zachary: it supports all the maintstream linux filesystems06:38
bob2Jormundgand: depends how you install it06:38
Jormundgandbob2: Assume it's a configure make make install installation.06:38
bob2Jormundgand: depends where you configure it to install06:38
zacharybob2: i am in the market for an external harddrive and i want to be able to connect it to a ubuntu box, a winxp/2000 box, and a mac box06:38
bob2Jormundgand: they usually default to /usr/local/06:38
bob2zachary: fat32 is your only option then06:39
bob2zachary: aka vfat in linux06:39
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syndzachary, fat3206:39
JormundgandSo there's no OS-defined folder where all programs are installed in the same way as Program Files.06:39
zacharynow my question is, is fat32 that bad ?06:39
syndbob2, does Mac support fat32 ?06:39
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bob2Jormundgand: so libraries go in /usr/local/lib/, binaries ( = programs) go in /usr/local/bin/, documentation in /usr/local/doc/...06:39
bob2synd: yes06:39
boguesare there package config files missing in Breezy?...specifically glib06:39
Razor-Xsynd: it can read and write from it06:39
syndbob2, with read and write?06:39
syndah06:39
bob2Jormundgand: no, Unix systems don't normally use a single directory per program06:39
bob2synd: yes06:40
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JormundgandOkay.06:40
bob2bogues: /topic06:40
bob2Jormundgand: we have packaging systems, so there's no need to do that06:40
boguesbob2, irrelevant06:40
JormundgandPackaging systems open their own can of worms though. :/06:40
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bob2bogues: no, I mean "If you're using breezy, you should know how to a) check if the files are in ubuntu or not (ie http://packages.ubuntu.com) and b) use the bts to check if someone has reported the bug yet or not.06:40
bob2Jormundgand: how so?06:40
Jormundgandbob2: The Firefox/Thunderbird logos.06:41
bob2Jormundgand: why are you so hung up on that?06:41
syndJormundgand, thats a licensing issue06:41
bob2Jormundgand: the firefox people are being very paranoid about their trademark06:41
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regeyawho what huh06:41
bob2Jormundgand: it's not really to do with packaging at all06:41
JormundgandI just wonder where the Ubuntu builds of Firefox/Thunderbird fit into this licensing web.06:41
regeyaoh, the reason you don't see firefox logos in systems like ubuntu06:41
syndJormundgand, its very easy to change.06:42
regeyasee, the ubuntu packages aren't official firefox packages06:42
Jormundgandsynd: Not in the case of the About box.06:42
bob2Jormundgand: if I made a tarball that installed to /usr/Program_Files/, but fixed a bug in, Id still not be able to use the official logo06:42
arvinim trying to follow this step in making a script for WPA (step B) its asking me to make a script but i have no clue how to run or save it or even create it any tips on how to go about setting up WPA using this tutorial? http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WPAHowto06:42
syndJormundgand, hm?06:42
zacharythanks bob2 and synd for your answers06:42
bob2zachary: np, good luck!06:42
syndzachary, no problem06:42
Jormundgandsynd: Look at the Thunderbird start page, or the About box.06:42
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danko123456bob2: what about this regeya guy, talking nonsense??06:43
bob2danko123456: he/she is correct06:43
crimmythat's not nonsense06:43
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bob2danko123456: the ubuntu firefox packages cannot use the firefox logo because they are not "official"06:43
danko123456ok, didnt get whether it was correct...06:43
bob2because they are not tarballs and because they fix bugs06:43
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regeyadanko123456, ooga booga whump whunt whup!06:43
danko123456didnt get yuor whole story, I mean, I didnt get if the logos are there,, or not, works out they are not....:)06:44
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Nernhey06:44
Nernokay i messed up big time06:44
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JormundgandThen we need to petition the Firefox people to make a deb package available. (P.S. The Firefox RPMs use the official logo. That's not a tarball.)06:44
danko123456I dont use firefox much+ who cares abotu a logo:) obviously some people...06:44
syndbob2, would you know how to change the Main Menu icon?06:44
NernHow can i reinstall grub into the MBR06:45
kestasJormundgand: but that wouldnt contain the fixes06:45
kestasJormundgand: the firefox in ubuntu is made for ubuntu06:45
bob2synd: smeg, Amaranths menu editor might be able to do it06:45
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bob2Jormundgand: why do you care so much?06:45
kestasNern: probably sudo grub-install /dev/hda06:45
Jormundgandbob2: Because I like the Firefox and Thunderbird logos - it's like a flag to me.06:46
Nernkestas, I cant even boot into linux now im stuck booting into windows06:46
levanderThere is a disaster backup and restore application for Linux commonly used with Ubuntu? Like Norton Ghost for Windows.06:46
kestasNern: well then run the command I gave you06:46
syndbob2, smeg is amaranth's menu editor?06:46
kestasNern: /dev/hda is the root partition06:46
bob2synd: yes06:46
kestasof linux06:46
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danko123456anyone wanna know a bad thing that happened to me today? hehe, Ill tell you anyhow...I was installing RAM into a very tightly packaged HP case, and I managed to break the little thing that clips into place when you place the RAM in there...06:46
bob2levander: you can just use dd for that, but I believe people use things like Amanda and such, to.06:47
kestasNern: I mean /dev/hda is the hdd you boot from06:47
Nernkestas , i cant run the comman, because im in windows right now06:47
bob2er, too.06:47
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bob2danko123456: ouch06:47
Nernkestas, yes06:47
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kestasNern: well then youre going to have to make a grub floppy disk06:47
syndbob2, just checked it out. not able to change the actual black gnome foot. but can change the other icons within the menu06:47
kestasNern: I actually wrote a howto on this06:47
kestasNern: Ill find it 1 sec06:47
Nernkestas, i dont even have a floppy drive06:47
Jormundgandsynd: There's instructions on the forum to change that.06:47
danko123456bob2: are you my computer mbo?? jj, kinda hard to get that joke, tho...06:47
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levanderbob2: wow! dd, wouldn't have guess you could use that for something like that, guess there had to be a reason for that program other than copying hard disk superblocks though06:47
kestasNern: hmm I see06:47
Nernkestas, could i possibly do it from cd?06:47
JormundgandAnd frankly I don't know why it's not done by default. Ubuntu's logo isn't a foot.06:47
syndJormundgand, could you point me to it?06:48
kestasNern: sure, using knoppix or something you could definently06:48
Nernkestas, i have a kanotix cd laying here06:48
syndJormundgand, its a Gnome thing06:48
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bob2synd: oh, I think that's a compile-time thing :/06:48
kestasNern: well Ive never used kanotix, but yeah thatll probably work06:48
JormundgandAnd the Backports project just eradicated the Sarge debs I'd installed for acroread. :)06:48
bob2danko123456: mbo?06:48
bob2levander: hah06:48
danko123456motherboard..06:48
Nernkestas, would i just run grub-install /dev/hda from one of my live cds then?06:48
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kestasNern: yup I think so06:48
bob2danko123456: ah06:48
kestasif /dev/hda is your hdd you boot fron06:49
kestas*from06:49
Jormundgandsynd: Search the Tips and Tricks forum for "gnome foot".06:49
Nernkestas, k ill give it a shot06:49
budhihi06:49
Nernkestas, yes it is06:49
danko123456acuse you said ouch, and the part of it was broken...:-///////06:49
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syndJormundgand, i found a howto to to change the Menu Bar (custom menu bar) icon, but I want the Main Menu icon changed instead.06:49
Nernkestas, ill be back06:49
kestask06:49
JormundgandOh. No idea then.06:49
bob2levander: 'dd if=/dev/hda | nc 192.10.10.10 999' streams your disk across the network06:49
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bob2levander: 'nc -l 999 > ./disk.image' will capture it on the other end06:49
kestasnc -l 999 | gzip > ./disk.image.gz06:50
bob2hehe06:50
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iceman2Kcrud .. looks like i abandon ubuntu ... no way to get openmosix on it ...06:50
kestasthe annoying thing about netcat is that it doesnt tell you when its done06:51
danko123456yeah, it does not have cluster support, and if that is what you are after, in the short term, perhaps that is what is best to do... iceman2K.06:51
bob2iceman2K: er, that's kinda silly06:51
levanderbob2: wow, that's some cool old skool unix wizardry06:51
danko123456I mean, it seems^06:51
[Spooky] whats openmosix ?06:51
iceman2Kbob2 new to linux ... wonder how well a can set up ubuntu on wifes system and remotly maintain her ..06:52
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bob2iceman2K: with ssh06:52
levanderkestas: shoulda used bzip for that!  higher compression06:52
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JormundgandI wonder if it's worth the Ubuntu project filing a trademark use request to the Firefox people.06:52
bob2iceman2K: or X over the network06:52
MegaManXThanks for help guys!. It's working great. I've to run, catch you all later ;)06:52
bob2Jormundgand: that doesn't help06:52
bob2MegaManX: adios06:52
iceman2Kbob2 just want he away from win98 ... to prone to virus's ... ;) ...06:52
dna`how to i import gpg keys for apt-get and what are the urls?06:52
levanderbob2: you've never used that to backup and restore a disk have you?06:52
MegaManX;)06:53
iceman2Kbob2 want her away from win9806:53
danko1Jormundgand, I dont think it is, personally, not that my opinion counts...06:53
bob2levander: you need to boot from a livecd or something, you can't do it live06:53
Johnnyfavhow do you run nautifus?06:53
bob2levander: I have used it to image a disk before06:53
Johnnyfavl06:53
RuffianSoldierhey bob206:53
bob2levander: maybe I mixed up the netcat options06:53
bob2RuffianSoldier: hi06:53
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mcquaidman making debs looks like a real pain06:53
bob2iceman2K: so, why would you use mosix to do that?06:53
RuffianSoldierim hooking up a new box tommorow06:53
iceman2Kbob2 wonder how to set up the network .. ?06:54
bob2iceman2K: networking has nothing to do with mosix.06:54
levanderbob2: yeah, you imaged a disk, but did you actually restore it, *and* use the restored system?06:54
bob2levander: don't think I did, actually06:54
iceman2Kmosix set the network up ... as cluster nodes ..06:54
bob2levander: why wouldn't it work?06:54
levanderbob2: you disappoint06:54
danko1hehe, cluster for a netwerok:)06:54
bob2er, ok06:54
bob2iceman2K: that's not what mosix is for06:54
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bob2iceman2K: if you want to remotely admin a machine, you use ssh or X or vnc or ...06:55
Johnnyfavhow do you run nautilus cd burner?06:55
hajikii can't seem to find the mysql libaries for php? anyone help?06:55
levanderbob2: no, it would prolly work, there would just be a feeling of true genuine geekiness of actually using a system that you had restored that way06:55
levanderbob2: backing it up just in case isn't the same...06:55
hajikii only see one for postgresql06:55
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bob2Johnnyfav: it should pop up a cd burning window when you puy in a blank cd06:55
bob2hajiki: php4-mysql06:55
bob2levander: hah, right06:55
levenhsteinhajiki: did you install php5-mysql ?06:55
bob2levander: I use rsync to backup06:55
iceman2Kbob2 may put her in ubuntu .. but setting up the remote access ... there i'm lost ..06:55
hajikiphp4-mysql is not in my list06:56
levanderbob2: yeah, that's what I do for my oggs06:56
hajikidon't tell me i need universe for that?06:56
bob2levander: reinstalling ubuntu is quick enough that backing up / hasn't seem useful yet06:56
Johnnyfavkewl06:56
Johnnyfavtanx06:56
bob2iceman2K: install openssh-server on her machine06:56
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levanderthere's nothing in linux like XP restore points (that I've unfortunately been playing with all weekend) is there?06:56
danko123456nautilus burn:/// as well works....06:56
bob2hajiki: yes, it is in universe06:56
levenhsteinhajiki: pool/universe/p/php4-universe/php4-mysl ...06:56
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bob2levander: there's LVM snapshots06:56
hajikigreat...06:57
danko123456hey, while you are all here, do you like this sources.list file, altho I think I may know what the answer may look like, www.mts.net/~danb/sources.list for say, general new user usage...06:57
iceman2Kbob2 let me load her the live cd ... of older version of ubuntu ...06:57
cyphaseyou don't need an x server running on a machine to be able to SSH in and use graphical applications, right?06:58
danko123456I am sorry, we cant let you do that...06:58
RuffianSoldiercan I upgrade to breezy badger yet?06:58
bob2cyphase: right06:58
syndRuffianSoldier, you can06:58
levenhsteincyphase: no ssh -X username@host06:58
paulproteuscyphase: Thats right.06:58
syndRuffianSoldier, but its not recommended06:58
RuffianSoldierWOOT06:58
paulproteusRuffianSoldier: You can.06:58
jsgotangcoRuffianSoldier, not recommended06:58
bob2cyphase: the X server only needs to run on the machine in front of you06:58
cyphasek, thanx06:58
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RuffianSoldieri will wait06:58
bob2RuffianSoldier: please don't06:58
paulproteusBut it's a bad idea. :)06:58
RuffianSoldierlol06:58
RuffianSoldierok06:58
cyphasek, just making sure06:58
paulproteuscyphase: You will need basic X utilities installed, as well as X libraries.06:59
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paulproteusxauth in particular.06:59
cyphasebut i can kill the x server06:59
cyphaseit'll be installed, just not running06:59
paulproteuscyphase: Okay. :)06:59
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cyphaselol07:00
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paulproteusFeel free to do apt-get remove xserver-xorg if it makes you feel l33ter. ;)07:00
cyphaselol07:00
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cyphaseyea07:00
samuelsup all07:00
danko123456I feel pretty l33t about my sources.list file...07:01
danko123456:-p07:01
samuelanyone know if there is a way to use ethereal without enabling the root account?07:01
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paulproteusdanko123456: What, does it just point to localhost?07:01
paulproteussamuel: sudo ethereal07:01
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bob2danko123456: that's the default with universe and multiverse enabled07:01
bob2which is fine07:01
samuelpaulproteus, nice.... thanks07:01
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bob2they're not enabled by default, tho, so that people need to concisouly realise what they are07:01
paulproteussamuel: Sure thing.  sudo is your friend to run arbitrary programs as root.07:02
danko123456paulproteus: no, cause I posted something about it, and noone answered, and I am an impatient little linux user:)07:02
paulproteusdanko123456: Ah ;)07:02
paulproteus"Little" I gathered from the number-infested nick ;).07:02
danko123456bob2: great, that nicely summarizes my thoughts so I can use them better.07:02
dna`how do i import gpg keys for apt-get packages?07:02
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danko123456paulproteus: you know what, that was the first nick I used ever in IRC(except when I was like 12) and it is cause there is a danko...07:02
samuelpaulproteus, im going to read up on the difference between su and sudo... thanks again!07:03
bob2dna`: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-key <keyid> ; gpg --export <keyid> | sudo apt-key add -07:03
sjohnsonQuestion:  Grub won't boot off my windows partition which is on my 2nd SATA controller channel07:03
sjohnsonis it impossible to do this?07:03
paulproteussamuel: The wiki article should be helpful.07:03
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jsgotangcoanyone here configured moin with apache?07:03
bob2sjohnson: is windows willing to boot off the second disk these days?07:03
sjohnsoni can mount the partition fine, or boot off it if i switch the sata cables around so it thinks windows is the 1st07:03
wartybob2 well got her system on the live cd ..07:03
dna`bob2, i wish i know the keyid though :)07:03
bob2dna`: the apt error message mentions it07:03
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samueljsgotangco, i have, moin wiki you mean?07:04
jsgotangcosamuel, yeah moin wiki exactly, im just installed it and dont know what to do next07:05
syndanyone know how to change the gnome foot icon located at the bottom right of my screenshot here -> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/pmartin245/6c004d9c.jpg07:05
syndbottom left07:05
syndi mean07:05
soe<------------lookin 4 indonesian07:05
samueljsgotangco, well... i dont exactly remember, im not using it any more, lemme see...07:05
bob2soe: this isn't a chat channel, sorry07:06
soene beautiful gurl wanna chat with me?07:06
syndhaha.07:06
bob2soe: sorry, you're in the wrong channel07:06
danko123456lol...:)07:06
syndaint gonna find too many girls in the #ubuntu channel : )07:06
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bob2synd: there's no foot on the bottom right of that screenshot07:07
hhurttatry #ubuntu_is_sexy :)07:07
paulproteusbob2: Left.  Bottom left.07:07
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syndbob2, i correct myself : p07:07
bob2oh, duh me07:07
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wartycool ubuntu likes her sound and video ...07:07
kakaltolol, hhurtta07:07
samueljsgotangco, http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnInstalling07:07
syndcorrected(07:07
jsgotangcosamuel, thanks07:08
gibbieany XFCE4 users know how to get the taskbar back at the bottom of the screen?  Mine somehow dissapeared.07:08
dna`bob2, keyid 1F41B907, thanks it worked :] 07:08
samueljsgotangco, thats quite an easy one to install, you shouldnt have problems07:08
bob2dna`: np07:08
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levanderbob2: you back up your whole system? or just your user data with rsync?07:08
jsgotangcosamuel, im using ubuntu repos07:08
bob2levander: /etc, /home and 'dpkg --get-selections'07:09
dna`now if someone who uses universe and multiverse can email me his sources.list :(07:09
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bob2dna`: read /etc/apt/sources.list07:09
levanderbob2: wow! you are full of useful tips! i didn't even know about dpkg --get-selections07:09
bob2dna`: it explains how to enable them07:09
dna`bob2, mine is damaged07:09
bob2levander: hah, it is handy07:10
levanderbob2: you think you could restore a system just from those three things?07:10
bob2dna`: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted universe multiverse07:10
bob2levander: the bits I care about, yeah07:10
bob2levander: (have done so in the past)07:10
dna`bob2, thats the only line i need?07:10
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levanderbob2: i'm trying to think, can't think of anything important not in those three....07:10
Lestat_wenaz07:10
bob2dna`: yes07:11
bob2levander: sometimes I wish I'd backed up /var07:11
dna`bob2, i love you07:11
Lestat_how could i use LILO instead of Grub???07:11
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levanderbob2: when you backed up /etc, you were able to do a flat restore of /etc?  Just a restore, didn't have to go in and tweak things?07:11
samuelbob2, do you still use debian?07:12
bob2Lestat_: why?07:12
levanderbob2: yeah, i know /var's got my mysql db's and subversion repositories07:12
bob2samuel: yes07:12
Lestat_bevause i prefer lilo..07:12
paulproteussamuel: I do, too, and I've spotted him on #debian. :)07:12
samuelpaulproteus, i do miss debian...07:12
bob2levander: I tend to just re-install, and copy the few config files that matter (basically just postfix and tinc's) over.07:12
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paulproteussamuel: Hmm?  Did it go away somewhere?07:13
paulproteusOr perhaps stop dating you?07:13
samuelhahahaha07:13
danko123456Ive spotted me even on #debian:)07:13
levanderbob2: yeah, my plan for restoring /etc is I use an svk repository to store history (versions).  If I ever have to do a restore "sudo svk log /etc", then i'll just look through the log looking at diffs and comments I made about what I changed07:14
dna`is there a bot in here like dpkg of #debian ?07:14
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syndthere should be a bot in here named apt-get07:14
levanderbob2: of course first i need to figure out how to mirror my svk repository into svn, so that when I back up svn repostitories... etc.07:14
ricshi07:14
nicedreamsCan I do desktop sharing with TightVNC server to share my fluxbox desktop and access it from my windows box?07:14
bob2dna`: ubotu07:14
anathemahey bob207:15
dna`word07:15
bob2nicedreams: yeah07:15
bob2anathema: hi07:15
anathemaisnt there a way to alter the grub config to make windows think its the first drive07:15
danko123456!ubotu07:15
bob2levander: heh07:15
ubotudanko123456: Bugger all, i dunno07:15
danko123456nice:)07:15
anathema0x80 or somethign07:15
anathemaany idea?07:15
danko123456I never knew this...07:15
levanderso bob2, what's your tip for an IRC client?07:15
danko123456!hi07:15
nicedreamsbob2, can you please tell me how?  I've been googling for hours trying to figure it out07:15
ubotuhello, danko12345607:15
bob2levander: yeah, I tried keeping /etc/ in arch, but I was too lazy to commit everything I did07:15
bob2levander: irssi-text to the max.07:15
danko123456yes!07:15
danko123456!restrictedformats07:15
ubotudanko123456: I give up, what is it?07:15
danko123456ok, sorry, just testing07:15
bob2nicedreams: I've never used vnc, sorry07:15
synd!help07:15
anathemaany idea bob2 ?07:15
synd!where can i find google07:16
ubotusynd: I don't know, could you explain it?07:16
kakaltolol07:16
levanderbob2: it's not that bad after you get used to it.  svk searches the file system for files added, and will auto-add them to the repository (when you tell it to).  that makes it a lot easier.  svn doesn't do that.07:16
bob2anathema: I'm pretty sure altering the grub config would not be enough, windows will do it's own device probing long after grub exists07:16
synd!status07:16
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bob2see, this is why I was anti-bot07:16
levanderbob2: i'm trying erc (emacs irc client), i'm liking it pretty good07:16
bob2levander: ah, yeah07:16
synd!seen zevin07:16
ubotui haven't seen 'zevin', synd07:17
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anathemathats not the issue though is it ? in lilo it worked if you changed your lilo config to 'simulate' the face that the drive was 0x80..ie, first drive07:17
bob2levander: I tried that, but I use emacs21, so I couldn't keep my irc client always on in screen07:17
bob2anathema: wow, that worked?07:17
synd!seen nalioth07:17
anathemain lilo it used to07:17
bob2anathema: then grub mappings would probably work, too07:17
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bob2synd: please use /msg07:17
anathemaok, where do i look on how to do that in grub07:17
anathemaman grub doesnt say shit07:17
syndbob2, k07:17
levanderbob2: don't know what you're talking about, i'm using emacs21 and erc right now07:17
bob2anathema: /boot/grub/devices.map or so07:17
danko123456bob2: sorry, its hjust new to us...07:18
danko123456well use it wisely, I promise myself...07:18
levanderbob2: oh, don't use the screen program, so wouldn't know about that problem07:18
bob2levander: I keep my irc client running inside GNU Screen all the time07:18
bob2levander: right07:18
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danko123456let us teach it to be polite, tho, not like dpkg...can we read about it somewhere, bob2?07:18
levanderbob2: why? for logging?07:18
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anathemathe devices.map changes what grub thinks hd0 and stuff is07:18
bob2levander: yeah07:18
anathemabut when you boot the bios gives each drive a hex #07:18
anathema0x80 beeing the first, 0x81 second etc07:19
anathemain lilo the command used was bios=0x8007:19
anathemajust wondering how to do this in grub07:19
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bob2danko123456: the website is http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/, but I don't know of any documentation for it07:20
iceman2Kanyone know the minimun system for ubunto07:21
iceman2Kubuntu07:21
bob2danko123456: at it's simplest, '/msg ubotu foo is bar' tells it to store "bar" as the data for the key "foo", so "ubotu: foo" in the channel will print bar.07:21
syndiceman2K, 128MB RAM07:21
danko123456bob2: can we teach it, does the site say that?07:21
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anathemaand using map in lilo etc07:21
danko123456aha07:21
levanderis so funny how some channels on freenode, ppl go in there just to put down ppl, can't believe yall were saying #debian has a bot they've programmed to be rude07:21
bob2iceman2K: depends what you want to do07:21
syndiceman2K, it can be lower but i dont think its usable07:21
danko123456Ill try later, save your post.07:21
SJChungiceman2K, do you mean minimun install?07:22
danko123456if you can understand my lazy translation of my thoughts into sentences,.07:22
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levander#ubuntu and ubuntuforums is actually reason i stuck with ubuntu after initial trial, better support on this distro07:22
iceman2Kbob2 got a old old 486/100 maybe 64 meg ram .. like to put it up for my kids ..07:22
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Madpilotquick Ubuntu & hardware question: anyone ever had trouble setting up a CDDVD burner?07:22
bob2iceman2K: gnome will be extramely painful07:22
syndiceman2K, xfce or fluxbox07:22
levanderMadpilot: with linux kernel 2.6, shouldn't be much to it07:22
bob2iceman2K: fluxbox will be ok, but things like firefox and openoffice will crawl07:22
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danko123456levander: I dont understand your point about my statement...07:23
Madpilotlevander: thnx, don't have a burner now, know zip about them, but there's a sale on nice Pioneer ones...07:23
syndiceman2K, you ought to look at damn small linux for a system like that..07:23
levanderdanko123456: what point?07:23
iceman2Kbob2 even a old distro would be ok ... ? looking at linuxiso.org for 386 distros ..07:23
Quest-Mastericeman2K: I'd recommend a lightweight desktop overall.. XFCE as DE, Dillo as web browser, AbiWord for word processing, etc etc.07:23
danko123456I have a question for bob2 about it, tho, when he is less bombarded with questions.07:23
DekaPinkAre there any good places to get gnome themes?07:23
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levanderMadpilot: i'd give it a try, worked painlessly for me, and graveman is a nice gui burning tool07:23
danko123456levander: is so funny how some channels on freenode, ppl go in there just to put down ppl, can't believe yall were saying #debian has a bot they've programmed to be rude07:23
Quest-MasterDekaPink: http://www.gnome-look.org07:23
syndDekaPink, www.gnome-look.org07:23
bob2Madpilot: so, a little story: I decided to buy an external dvd writer a few weeks ago, and did no research.  so I got home, and plugged it into my ubuntu laptop and tried to use cdrecord.  no luck.  tried to use dvdrecord.  no luck.  inserted a blank dvd, and nautilus popped up a window.  dragged some files to it.  selected "write to disk, and got a burnt dvd.07:23
DekaPinkQuest-Master, synd: Thank you. :D07:24
bob2iceman2K: that doesn't matter07:24
Quest-MasterDekaPink: no problem. :)07:24
levanderdanko123456: what don't you understand about that?07:24
danko123456please rephrase07:24
levanderdanko123456: oh!07:24
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Madpilotbob2: heh... so, when it arrives I'll try Nautilus first! :)07:24
levanderdanko123456: i was talking about couldn't believe #debian channel, not couldn't believe you, sorry07:24
iceman2Kbob2 how about a celeron 333 ... maybe 128 meg ram ?07:24
DekaPink:D07:24
danko123456nono, I know, please explain all points made there. pm if you want...07:25
bob2iceman2K: firefox and openoffice will be ok on that, fluxbos will fly07:25
iceman2Kbob2 have to build it from a scratch mb i got laying aroung07:25
crimmyiceman2K: the amount of ram is really the critical point. 128 is fine.07:25
Madpilotlevander: thnx, off to load down my Visa card... ;)07:25
DekaPinkI hope nobody minds my cluelessness... I just got on Ubuntu.07:25
syndiceman2K, stick with fluxbox and xfce07:25
syndi dont like gnome unless its on a 256MB, really 512 or better07:25
levanderMadpilot: the command line cdrecord takes maybe an hour or a little more to figure out, graveman, nautilus did it by just guessing what a couple of buttons do07:25
danko123456crimmy: 128 fine, hey? I had 64 earlier(was hoping for a sum of 192 till I brokeone of the slots:)  and now it is 128, but still exactly same speed...07:26
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levanderMadpilot: ttat's prolly money wisely spent, cd burners come in handy07:26
danko123456art.gnome.org too DekaPink noone minds.07:26
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iceman2Khumm whats minimul harddrive ? i wonder ..07:26
Madpilotlevander: guessing on a GUI is my style too! command lines are... meh... best avoided when possible...07:26
synddanko123456, theres not much noticeable difference bwteeen 128 and 19207:27
bob2iceman2K: the default install takes 1.8GB07:27
JDahl_iceman2K, I would think you need atleast 2Gb07:27
iceman2Kbob2 1.8 gig ... wow .. that include swap ..07:27
danko123456levander: nono, I know, please explain all points made in that statement, I know it was not against me, I just want to know what you mean, so I can talk to you about it, interesting topic to me. pm if you want...07:27
danko123456synd, you are just trying to make me feel better:)07:27
synddanko123456, : D07:28
JDahl_iceman2K, I had a 4GB partition set aside for it on my laptop, and I dont have enough space for large dist-upgrades07:28
Lestat_danko123456 levander: nono, I know, please explain all points made in that statement, I know it was not against me, I just want to know what you mean, so I can talk to you about it, interesting topic to me. pm if you want...<--- what are ayou waitingfor???07:28
bob2iceman2K: no07:28
iceman2Kno looking to upgrade .. just a systems a 7 and 5 year old can start playing with ...07:28
levanderdid those two pms i send just work or did whole channel see those?07:29
danko123456Lestat_: now I cant understand you...07:29
syndiceman2K, ive got an old athlon 1.3 ghz box i can give you : )07:29
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thakatHello.  How is everyone tonight?07:29
levanderMadpilot: command lines are better when you're using the same command over and over and over, i think07:29
danko123456worked fine, levander.07:29
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danko123456thakat: I am fine, thanks.07:29
levanderMadpilot: its worth figuring out a command line for something you want to do that commonly.  Burning a disc is only occasional07:30
iceman2Ksynd ... i'd take it for the kids ... wife system is a 1.1 celeron ..07:30
syndiceman2K, it stripped it down before i found out about ubuntu or linux for that matter. i deemed it "unusable"07:30
iceman2Ki'm on a p 4  2.807:30
Lestat_well this is because... i meant nothing.. and i think that the other guy was only joken.. hedoesnt have any point of view.. danko12345607:30
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iceman2Ksynd ... whare you live ?07:30
levanderdanko123456: why was that statement I made so interesting?07:30
syndiceman2K, kentucky07:30
danko123456haha, Lestat_random intrustion, then:-p07:30
danko123456levander: did you get my replies, tho?07:30
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thakatI'm sure this question has been asked a lot, but could someone pm me with a way to get the DVD player working?  A friend and I are both having the same prob.07:31
levanderdanko123456: no, i'm in a new irc client....07:31
danko123456cause I am personally interested in why #debian is as is....07:31
iceman2Ksynd little far ... build a bare system for some kids ... and donate it to them07:31
Lestat_danko123456 jajajaj and we start again..07:31
bob2thakat: you need to explain what isn't working07:31
syndiceman2K, ive got two old towers sitting here..07:31
bob2thakat: e.g. can you mount dvds?  can you play unencrypted ones?07:31
anathemaok bob..found the thing in grub07:31
Madpilotlevander: true enough WRT command lines...07:31
levanderanybody know if emacs erc supports private messages?07:31
syndiceman2K, a celeron 600 and an athlon 1.3, the athlon has DDR07:31
anathemabob2: map (0x81) (0x80) map (0x80) (0x81)07:32
bob2anathema: neat07:32
anathemathe map commands beeing on their own line07:32
anathemathink that will work ?07:32
anathemahaha07:32
iceman2Ksynd add small harddrives ... and donate them to some kids ... some kids never see a pc ... which sucks ..07:32
syndiceman2K, thats a good idea.07:32
levanderdanko123456: #debian's prolly just like that cause communities develop personalities.07:32
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Lestat_iceman2K synd add small harddrives ... and donate them to some kids ... some kids never see a pc ... which sucks ..<-------------jajajajajaj07:32
syndiceman2K, introduce them to Ubuntu07:32
danko123456levander: I have a more developed theory, thanks.07:33
synd:x07:33
levanderdanko123456: think that's more of a sociological / human behavior question than anything else07:33
DekaPinkWhere's the skin folder for XMMS? :307:33
syndLestat_, ?07:33
bob2thakat: please don't /msg people07:33
iceman2Ksynd ... knew a pc shop in colorado.. they took in used unwanted systems .. got them working and raffelled them to kids in schools ...07:33
bob2DekaPink: ~/.xmms/Skins/07:33
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Nernokay07:33
Lestat_nothing.. im only reading and laughing synd07:33
Nerni need help07:33
syndiceman2K, oh, wow07:33
Nerni have overwritten grub in the mbr07:33
danko123456Lestat_: you should stick with nodding and smiling:-p07:33
Nernand i need to get it reinstalled07:33
bob2Nern: how did that happen?07:34
thakatok07:34
danko123456he instaklled windows over ubuntu07:34
bob2thakat: please don't /msg people07:34
Lestat_isn ti?07:34
levanderdanko123456: it's an old stereotype with some of the computer geeks, usually applied to dba's, that people don't like explaining stuff to everybody07:34
levanderdanko123456: that's what I think of when in ##java and #php07:34
iceman2Ksynd was cool ... yea install ubuntu and offer them to a school as raffel to needy kids ...07:34
Nernbob2: I was going to install FreeBSD on a different partition, but the installation failed, but it had already overwritten the mbr07:34
danko123456levander: it is deeper than that on #debian... but, I dont wanna go into it more now, I have to wait till issues get sorted out.07:34
kestasNern: what happened when you tried to do grub-install /dev/hda?07:34
bob2Nern: get an ubuntu livecd07:35
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Lestat_iceman2K synd was cool ... yea install ubuntu and offer them to a school as raffel to needy kids ...<-------it isnt a bad idea..07:35
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Nernkestas: when i tried grub-install /dev/hda it said that the drive was read only07:35
kestasuse the spare machine as an openbsd syslog machine07:35
Nernbob2: yeah thats what i was thinking07:35
kestasNern: then you were probably trying to install it to the cd07:36
iceman2KLestat_ good thing ideas alone cant be copyrighted ...07:36
rj`anyone awake?07:36
kestasNern: did you try /dev/hdb, hdc, and hdd?07:36
bob2Nern: you can use the ubuntu install cd, too07:36
bob2rj`: you can see tht people are talking in here...07:36
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rj`i'am trying to configure ftp -- can anyone try to ftp to ftp.dawnshosting.com and see if it connects to proftpd07:36
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danko123456Lestat_: we see all this text you paste in, if you use nickName: and just the part after the arrow, we will, and the nickName, know what you are talking about.07:36
Nernbob2: yeah i tried to do it with the ubuntu cd it wouldnt work07:36
Lestat_yeah.. but i coudnt see the copyright mark on your sentense iceman2K07:36
rj`wrong channel bob2 :(07:36
dleHello.  I'm looking for info re a kernel panic on my hoary machine.  the kernel that panic'd on a reboot is 2.6.10-5-386.  It went as http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2005-May/033508.html on subs. hoary for breezy.  Has anyone else experienced this? Do you know what the problem is?07:36
bob2Nern: it will work07:37
kestasrj` not getting anything07:37
Nernbob2: what steps should i take07:37
bob2Nern: you need to walk through the install until you get to the partitioning stage07:37
iceman2KLestat_ not that ... just my following a pc shops good intent07:37
Nernbob2: k07:37
danko123456rj`: yes it works.07:37
kestasNern: it shouldnt say /dev/hda is read only07:37
kestas/dev/hda must be the CD07:37
bob2Nern: then hit "alt-f2" to get a terminal, then run "chroot /target", the run "grub-install /dev/hda"07:37
Lestat_ja.. ok...07:37
kestasbob2: thats what he just did07:37
rj`see it works for some and not for others :(07:37
bob2Nern: assuming /dev/hda is the first hard drive.  if it's scsi or sata, use /dev/sda07:37
danko123456rj`: http://pastebin.com/29250207:37
bob2rj`: you're behind a "firewall"?07:37
kestasrj` I can connect07:38
rj`bob2: a smootwall firewall07:38
dlealso as in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=136488 .  If anyone's following. :)07:38
rj`kestas: cool thanks07:38
bob2rj`: then fix it07:38
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Nernbob2: ok ill give that a shot07:39
iceman2Klol ... could install beowulf linux on the 486 ... lol07:39
kestasNern: fyi thats what you just did, using a ubuntu CD makes no diff07:39
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nbkhi, are there any good (i.e. working) repositiries for all of the win32 codecs and such07:40
bob2nbk: just get the .deb from christian marillat's archive07:40
jorgp_bob2: location of that archive?07:41
bob2debian.video.free.fr or something07:42
anathemabob2, just to let you know, that map command worked07:42
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bob2anathema: rock07:42
anathemaive got an email a mile long to email to ubuntuguide :D07:42
anathemasuch as making a .deb from the java, this windows thing..1 million others07:43
anathemahehe07:43
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danko123456bob2: what is the package called, w32codecs?07:44
bob2yes07:44
danko123456ok, follow-up:) how do you find out if that package is installed if you cant apt-cache search for it?07:44
bob2dpkg -l blah07:44
bob2if the first two letters are ii, it's installed07:45
danko123456thank you as always...07:45
Lestat_how coul i turn on the root acount on my ubuntu system???07:45
danko123456ok, it is, I thought it would be...07:45
Tezkahdoes anyone else use GNUooglinux07:45
bob2Lestat_: why?07:45
bob2Lestat_: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo07:46
danko123456Tezkah: google does not know of that.07:46
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Tezkahits the Google Linux distro!07:46
Tezkahits just in double secret beta07:46
bob2#conspiracy-theories, please07:46
danko123456I heard of that...meh...07:46
Tezkahcomes standard with the Google Browser07:46
nbkbob2: should I use the woody wource?07:47
nbksource07:47
bob2nbk: doesn't matter07:47
danko123456bob2: quiet enough now for a fairly non-Ubuntu related question, but I think a good question for you...07:47
nbkthx07:47
danko123456? should be at the end...07:47
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bob2heh07:48
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danko123456ok. well, pretty long answer too...07:48
danko123456:-/07:48
bob2that was an implied "what is your question?"07:48
danko123456ok,... the question is...tell me a summary of your opinion of #debian.07:49
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danko123456see that is very open...07:49
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Lestat_im gonna get back to knoppix..07:49
bob2Lestat_: how come?07:50
kakaltoknoppix wouldn't boot on my computer :((07:50
bob2danko123456: it would be long, rambling and unpopular07:50
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Lestat_am reinstalling it..07:50
danko123456well, I erad pastebins, and other forms of text, I really am interested in your opinion.07:50
danko123456anagram it, dont make me type:)07:50
iceman2Kknoppix is ok.. seems that ubuntu is a little better .. and easier to work with ..07:50
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bob2danko123456: /msg?07:51
danko123456off course, I have no objetion to those ever.07:51
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danko123456Lestat_: he meant why are you leaving Ubuntu...07:51
Lestat_a ok..07:51
k4rp0rdoes anyone know is there a winmx for linux?07:52
Lestat_m well i cant adapt me to this..07:52
kakaltobecause of GNOME?07:52
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kakaltoor just the whole hting?07:52
kakalto*thing07:52
nbkbob2: so can I pretty much use any debian source without probs?07:52
[Spooky] k4rp0r: you mean the p2p program ?07:52
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[Spooky] k4rp0r: no pm...07:53
bob2nbk: no, you shouldn't use any07:53
bob2nbk: for that single package (w32codecs), it doesn't matter07:53
k4rp0rSpooky:yes p2p, could u tell me the command to get it07:54
nbkbob2: ok just making sure, later07:54
danko123456winmx does not exist.07:54
danko123456what technology does it work on, gnutella?07:54
ilba7ri was wondering where to install windows fonts like Times?07:55
[Spooky] k4rp0r: look at their homepage, and if its not for Linux, the try use it with Wine07:55
ShuddertrixDekaPink: drag and drop the tar files the gnome themes come in on the Themes preferences panel.. don't know the exact menu link, sorry, i'm in kde07:55
k4rp0rSpooky:ok07:55
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bob2ilba7r: install the msttcorefonts package and you'll get it automatically07:55
Shuddertrixilba7r: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts07:56
danko123456ilba7r: enable multiverse, sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts07:56
[Spooky] danko1: problaby Kaaza :)07:56
ilba7rthanx bob 2 aand shudd and adanko07:56
danko123456nice. I win.07:56
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stormie`anyone here rite now ?07:56
danko123456hey, sorry aboiut the nick thing, guys.07:56
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stormie`i need some help .. of the usb modem .07:56
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Shuddertrixdanko123456: nobody wins.07:56
ilba7rthanks all se ya07:56
danko123456well, I am joiking, though:)07:56
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stormie`aztech turbo 100 works on ubuntu ??07:57
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danko123456[Spooky] : why would you recommend that solution:)07:57
danko123456I would recommend like, installing alinux program that does the same thing.07:57
[Spooky] danko123456: because i dunno what protocol it uses...07:57
DekaPinkShuddertrix: Thank you. :D07:57
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danko123456aha, yeah...07:58
SJChunghi, I've install python-nautilus and I run /usr/share/doc/python-nautilus/examples/background-image.py  but "ImportError: No module named nautilus"  ...Does anyone have the same problem?08:00
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danko123456stormie`: tried google?08:00
Shuddertrixit08:00
WXanyone here willing to help me get mod_perl running on apache2?08:00
WXi've gotten it installed and loaded08:00
WXjust can't get it to work on a site08:01
stormie`danko123456 : yep .. some says " yes " some says " no "08:01
WXa VirtualHost site08:01
levanderto completely copy a CD, should I just be able to drag and drop the contents or the source CD from one nautilus window to another window representing the blank CD?  Or, is there extra, hidden stuff on the CD?08:01
danko123456stormie`: how about: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ptopic43004.html ?08:01
danko123456levander: what kind of cd?08:01
stormie`hold on08:01
danko123456k, Ill be here, not that I know how to help with your issue:)08:02
levanderlike I wanna make copies of my XP Corporate install CD, so that multiple people can use it to install on workstations at work?  should the above method work to copy it?08:02
[Spooky] stormie`: did you like what you got ? :)08:02
stormie`[Spooky]  : don understand !08:02
levanderand, of course we have a corporate license, so it would be legal08:02
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[Spooky] stormie`: the ctcp version you did on me...08:02
stormie`danko123456 : i din install my driver yet ... i'm still finding for a driver installer08:02
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stormie`[Spooky]  : oh , sorry .. i just check on it .. can it help me or not . ?08:03
JDahl_WX, I dont know how much help this, but check two things: that perl scripts are allowed in your current directory (e.g., AllowOverride=True and .htaccess), and also check Mime-types, so that perl is recognized as a script08:03
WXhow do i setup the mime-type?08:04
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dell500does anyone here know if the fglrx driver works off the xorg.conf or the XF86Config-4??08:04
JDahl_WX, /etc/mime*, but normally you shouldnt have to change that.. it's more likely that perl scripts aren't allowed in the current directory08:05
dell500i'm in hoary and i'm using xorg08:05
crimmydell500: then it'll use the former08:05
dell500k08:05
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dell500so does that mean i should copy all the ATI flgrx stuff over to the xorg??08:05
crimmyfresh install or dist-upgrade?08:06
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dlelevander: I don't think that'll work.  I tried with an ISO and ended up with a CD containing the ISO file.08:06
dell500crimmy, dist-upgrade08:07
dledell500: the ATi flgrx stuff is a headache. :)08:07
dell500i know, but i was so close last time i messed with it08:07
crimmydell500: if you dist-upgrade, the fglrx settings should be preserved08:07
dell500i had 3d accel working, but the gui for messing wit hthe res wasn't working08:07
dledell500: please keep notes and post them somewhere. :)08:07
WXanyone here have mod_perl working with apache2?08:07
dell500might work this time08:07
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dell500crimmy, koo08:08
Madpilot is there any way to turn the system sound volume down? I can turn it on and off, but I want it on but *quieter*...08:08
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levanderdle: lol, i'm not going to drag the iso itself, but I'll open a source CD with nautilus, and drag all the files on the CD to a nautilu window representing the blank CD08:09
dell500just changed the driver from "ati" to "fglrx" last time i did this, it messed up08:09
dell500time for a reboot, gonna try again :)08:09
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dlelevander: Hrm.  I plead ignorance, I don't know whether that'll work.08:10
creytonim having a error pop up everytime i log onto ubuntu this is what it says: Could not look up internet address for ubuntu.08:10
creytonThis will prevent GNOME from operating correctly.08:10
creytonIt may be possible to correct the problem by adding ubuntu to the file /etc/hosts.08:10
bob2creyton: someone hosed /etc/hosts08:11
creytonwhat am i supposed to do08:11
bob2creyton: the first line should say: 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost ubuntu08:11
creytoni cant to seem to find the folder08:11
creytonin etc08:11
bob2creyton: it's a file08:11
bob2if you don't have /etc/hosts, something is very very wron08:11
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creytoni dont have it....08:12
Nernyeah that didnt work08:12
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creytonall i have is Hal then hotplug theres not hosts08:12
jacquesmerdewhy does ubuntu let me put cds INTO my drives, but not take them OUT of the drives? greedy ubuntu!08:13
creytonok nevermind08:13
creytoni found it08:13
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creytonwhat am i supposed to do with the file08:13
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Nernjacquesmerde: you have do eject the cds from the icon on the desktop08:13
bob2creyton: I told you08:13
bob216:11:27           bob2 | creyton: the first line should say: 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost ubuntu08:13
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dell500alrighty, so now my screen is kinda wierd08:13
dledell500: wierd how?08:13
Nernjacquesmerde: this isto prevent you from accidently ejecting it08:14
creytonok thanks alot bob08:14
jacquesmerdeNern, that doesnt work08:14
Nernjacquesmerde: right clicking and telling it to eject doesnt work?08:14
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bob2creyton: I'd be looking at why you don't have one, though08:14
dell500dle, um... well there is a big fat line in the middle of the screen, which shows the left part of my screen that is cut off08:14
dell500make sense?08:14
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bob2maybe the disk is failing08:14
jacquesmerdeNern, eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument08:14
dledell500: I know what you mean, yeah.08:14
creytoni think i accidentally deleted it when i was configuring my networks08:15
jacquesmerdeNern, thats the error i get when i right click on the desktop icon and click eject08:15
dell500dle, any ideas on how to fix?08:15
Nernjacquesmerde: strange... i dont know what to say08:15
creytonbob2, anyways i cant get sudo -s to work so i can edit the file any suggestions?08:15
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levanderdle: looked into it more, won't work, won't make the CD bootable08:15
bob2lord08:15
jacquesmerdeNern, how about offering some condolences08:15
bob2creyton: reboot, select "recovery" from the grub menu08:15
Madpilotjacquesmerde: open a terminal... type "sudo eject" then your p/w... it's a hack, but it works...08:15
bob2then fix it08:15
creytonbob2, sorry im new at this08:15
bob2then reboot again08:15
creytonok got it08:15
bob2creyton: I understand, just try to be more careful :)08:16
creytonthanks sorry if i bothered u, im a total newb08:16
dledell500: No, but there's a  #ati channel ,where someone spent a lot of time w/ me a couple weeks ago.08:16
Madpilotjacquesmerde: I've had the same prob w/ a few of my audio CDs08:16
creytonbob2, im tryng...ive spent 3-4 hours trying to figure out wpa for my network08:16
creytonnothing has worked08:16
jacquesmerdeMadpilot, it worked! (though got the same error again). this is a problem with mounting and umounting, yeah?08:16
dell500kool08:16
dell500thanks08:16
creytonand ive tried asking here but no one has a solution08:16
Nernim having some serious problems with this grub thing08:17
creytoni tried the wiki how tos and went thru almost all the forums regarding setting up wpa08:17
kestaswhat problems?08:17
Nerni cant reinstall it into the MBR08:17
jacquesmerdeMadpilot, any idea when the bug will be fixed? (its never happened to me with these cds and drives on other distros08:17
Nernkestas yer right it didnt work from the ubuntu cd08:17
kestasNern: why whats the error?08:17
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Nernkestas, couldnt find the command08:17
Madpilotjacquesmerde: that's the extent of my knowlege of this bug, sorry! it *is* a known problem, though.08:18
Nernkestas, grub-install08:18
kestas.. go back to whichever cd you used it from first, and it said /dev/hda is read only08:18
bob2Nern: after you chroot'd?08:18
kestasand instead of /dev/hda08:18
kestasto /dev/hdb /dev/hdc /dev/hdd08:18
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bob2Nern: is it a scsi or sata hard disk?08:18
creytonbob2, sorry to bother you, but im not familiar with the recovery mode and how to add a line to hosts file08:18
creytonwhat is the command to add?08:18
kestasthen /dev/sda /dev/sdb /dev/sdc .. until you get it08:18
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Nernbob2 and kestas: i only have one hdd and it is an ide drive, hda08:19
bob2kestas: that's kinda dangerous08:19
FikrannHello all08:19
kestasnot if youve only got 1 hdd08:19
bob2creyton: did you reboot into recovery mode yet?08:19
Lafitte-what program opens rar files in Ubuntu ?08:19
kestasNern: are you sure its always recognised as hda?08:19
stormie`danko123456 : ????08:19
kestasbecause why would it say a hdd is read only?08:19
creytonnot yet..but im not exactly sure what im supposed to do in recovery mode to add a line to the hosts file08:19
bob2Lafitte-: pick ONE channel08:19
bob2Lafitte-: did you install unrar-nonfree yet?08:19
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bob2creyton: which text editor have you been using?08:20
ShuddertrixLafitte-: sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree rar08:20
kestasNern: also did you run the command as root?08:20
creytongedit08:20
kestasNern: was the drive mounted?08:20
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ShuddertrixLafitte-: Make sure you have multiverse/universe too, for those08:20
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Nernill be back... lemme give this another shot08:20
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Lafitte-i odnt have source08:20
bob2creyton: ok, try "nano /etc/hosts" once you reboot08:20
creytonok got it08:20
bob2creyton: it will display all the key bindings on the screen for you08:20
jeff25anyone know where all the kde user menus are stored?08:20
creytonalright thanks08:21
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FikrannAnyone knows how much work is revering from Breezy to Hoary? I have a rather heavily customised system and I'm not really looking forward to reinstallation.08:21
bob2jeff25: #kubuntu might know08:21
bob2Fikrann: why did you upgrade to breezy?08:21
jeff25bob2: thanks.  btw hi! :)08:21
bob2aloha :)08:21
dell500anyone here know how to add horzsync and vertrefresh rates in xorg??08:22
dell500is it the same as xf86??08:22
aromero3yes dell50008:22
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levanderdell500: you just add a modeline to your monitor section08:22
bob2dell500: yeah, but it should be automatically08:23
Fikrannbob2, out of habit. I'm used to hanging on really raw bleeding edge of Debian.08:23
bob2breedy is more broken than sid has ever been08:23
bob2but you know that now ;)08:23
dell500well my resolution is all skewed08:24
dell500i'll see if it helps08:24
levanderdell500: i have had to run dpkg-reconfigure x-server to get ubuntu to recognize my graphics capabilities correctly before...08:24
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levanderdell500: if they're wrong, you can try that to see if it makes them right08:25
Fikrannbob2, I doubt removing apt sources and doing dist-upgrade would help?08:25
dell500levander, what does that do?08:26
dell500just reconfiguring it?08:26
bob2Fikrann: no08:26
bob2Fikrann: you can do pinning stuff, but downgrades really aren't supported08:26
bob2I don't know of anything that would certainly break, though08:27
levanderdell500: i'm pretty sure it just re-run the x server config, google a little on it first08:27
chohmanndell500: do you have any warnings(WW) or errors(EE) in your Xorg log files?08:27
Fikranndell500, if you're installing on a laptop, you might have problems because of nonstandard parametres of the lcd.08:27
levanderbob2: you don't consider it an insult to ubuntu that you work on the distribution, but run debian instead?08:28
bob2levander: I don't work on ubuntu08:28
bob2and I do run ubuntu on some machines08:28
levanderbob2: okay, i'm getting tired, that was stupid question anyway08:28
levanderbob2: night guys08:28
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danko123456ha:)08:30
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stormie`danko123456 : ????08:30
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danko123456hey, sorry...08:31
danko123456well, not sure, I must say.08:31
rixthWhenever I try and play an Mp3 in RhythmBox, I get an error "Could not open resource for writing" yet I know the file exists and totem can play it.08:31
Fikrannbob2, I'm going to try that...08:31
capidoes anyone know if it's possible to update multiple dyndns accounts with ipcheck?08:32
Fikrannrixth, totem is broken in too many ways.08:32
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rixthFikrann, obviously not in this case becasue totem can play it08:32
sevetsHello08:33
sevetsI am having a problem with x...08:33
egg|sighHello08:33
egg|sighI'm back ^-^08:34
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dell500i don't quite understand why my resolution is so skewed like this, i just used an old xorg.conf and before i added the flrx to the driver list, it got all bunk08:34
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sevetsI am also having a problem with resolutions08:34
my_hazhello is anyone good with `screen` and no how to put a status bar on the bottom of the screen08:35
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sevetsI am unable to choose a resolution higher than 640x480 in the resolution options08:36
dell500how do you find out what bus identifier an agp card is on?08:36
dell500sevets, not sure, but you have to chang ethe resolutions in the xorg.conf file08:36
dell500only way to do it08:36
bob2dell500: ignore it08:37
bob2leave it blank08:37
bob2etc08:37
sevetsdell500: I have changed the resolutions I believe.  I have even deleted the 640x480 options and yet it still won't give me any other options...08:38
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Fikrannsevets, what gfx card do you have?08:39
sevetsa voodoo 3 300008:39
sevetspci08:39
sevetshaha08:39
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danko123456sevets, this may help, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto , Fikrann do you know what you are talking about(no offense, I often talk with no point:))08:40
dell500Use kernal framebuffer device interface?08:40
dell500danko123456, he's asking what graphics card he has08:40
dell500gfx = graphics08:40
danko123456no, I meant that as a real question.08:40
DekaPinkIs there anything like TMPGenc for Ubuntu/linux in general?08:41
Shuddertrixsevets: after making sure it's using the tdfx driver (my voodoo 5 5500 with ubuntu came up with the vesa one) you need to go to that wiki link.08:41
dell500oh lol08:41
danko123456if he really knows what he is talking about, or just randomly speaking realated words...08:41
danko123456I do that often.08:41
dell500lol08:41
Fikranndanko123456, I believe I know what I'm talking about, thank you.08:41
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danko123456great, just checking.08:41
sevetsShuddertrix: the tdfx driver would be listed in the conf file?08:41
Shuddertrixsevets: Yes.08:41
sevetsok08:41
sevetsI see it there under device08:41
WXanyone here have mod_perl working with apache2?08:42
sevetsExcellent I shall try the things in this wiki08:42
sevetsbr08:42
sevetsb08:42
Shuddertrixsevets: good, now follow the wiki link danko123456 put up there ;)08:42
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alka_trashsilly question08:43
alka_trashwhere are the user contrib apt-get packages?08:43
Shuddertrixif a package wants to remove ubuntu-base, is that _really_ going to screw up anything?08:43
FikrannShuddertrix, not really, it seems.08:45
ShuddertrixFikrann: Ok, thanks..08:45
danko123456alka_trash: unless noone else answers, if I at all understood your question, this page may have the answer: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/08:45
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crimmyShuddertrix: no, it's just a metapackage08:45
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alka_trashK08:46
alka_trashthanks08:46
Shuddertrixcrimmy: I must have been looking at the wrong package.. i thought it wasn't..08:46
danko123456welcome, maybe crimmy would know about that...08:46
ShuddertrixOdd how I could overlook something like that.08:46
danko123456crimmy: do you mind when I unload people onto you like that?08:46
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dell500anyone know what kernel framebuffer is?/08:47
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crimmydanba: not really, though it's best if you ping me first if I don't respond immediately.08:47
Shuddertrixdell500: in a sense, i know what it does08:48
danbahow do you do that?08:48
danbaI usually try to unload if it is related to what you do, like sound, or his repository related question, altho I am not sure that is what that persona asked for...08:49
FikrannPhilosophical question: Does anyone know the reason why Debian (and therefore Ubuntu) insist on installing MTA on ALL machines, by default?08:49
danbaI mean, only if it is realted to that...08:49
danbacrimmy: and I try to put the nick in front:)08:49
alka_trashdanba: what I was looking for was a unofficial deb directory for Ubuntu, sort of like the backports directory, but maybe on a larger scale08:49
dell500Shuddertrix, should i use it for 3d acceleration for my ati 9600xt?08:50
JormundgandGod, Xfce still rules.08:50
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Fator_Deegood morning o/08:50
yoyobeanIs anybody here having trouble with running openGL screensavers?  I can't seem to run mine.  I've tried running some from the command line but I get "Unable to resolve Xmu symbols - please check your Xmu library installation."08:50
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chohmannalka_trash: http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/08:51
Fikranndell500, no, it won't work with closed ati driver.08:51
JasonFShould I use breezy yet?08:51
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transgressJasonF: topic08:51
ShuddertrixJasonF: /topic08:51
JasonFthat was the point ;)08:51
Fikrannheh08:51
JasonFhence the /me ducks08:51
Tezkahmplayer is awesome08:51
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Fator_DeeJasonF: if you really want to :-<08:51
jeff25is acroread broken?08:51
Tezkah+w32 codecs08:51
Tezkahoh man... awesome08:51
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dell500Fikrann, just say no then?08:52
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jeff25newt2@laptop ~ $ acroread08:52
jeff25ERROR: Cannot find installation directory.08:52
jeff25?08:52
Fikranndell500, where? in kernel config?08:52
Shuddertrixjeff25: acroread works on my system08:52
dell500ya08:52
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alka_trashThanks chohmann, I use to user slackware and I really got use to community packages, like ones from http://www.linuxpackages.net/ I guess I'll have to start a webpage08:53
MegaManXI again fellows :). I though I'd ask this here, since pygame channel is dead. Is anybody here good with Pygame?. I've kinda made a game and I would be needing somebody to help me out with the project by creating Windows executables of the game :)08:53
dell500xserver-xorg config08:53
jeff25Shuddertrix: what is the install dir?08:53
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MegaManXbad, bad spelling day, sorry :(08:53
Shuddertrixjeff25: I don't know what that wants.. sorry?08:53
bogueshmmm. wonder if gstreamer will ever hit 1.008:53
dell500Fikrann, config for xorg08:53
alka_trashchohmann: The ubuntu backports page is nice, but not updated that much as I would expect08:53
JasonFis anyone else getting 403s from backports.ubuntuforums.org repository?08:54
chohmannalka_trash: i think there actaully having some problems with the backport mirrors today, so if you add them to your sources, you might get 403 denied access errors08:54
alka_trashchohmann: oh, thanks08:54
JasonFheh, and my question is answered08:54
jeff25Shuddertrix: I think I figured i out thanks08:54
chohmannlol08:54
chohmanni just look up from my keyboard08:54
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danbaalka_trash: I think that is the extent of ubuntus backports at this time...08:55
crimmyJasonF: / chohmann: the repo moved. The new repo is noted in the forum.08:55
crimmyJasonF: and I'll lart you in #trilug, too.08:55
crimmy:p08:55
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alka_trashdanba: I appreciate that it's there, just wondering if there was ,, thanks :)08:55
chohmanncrimmy: do you mean the mirrors?08:55
dell500Fikrann, should it be enabled or no?08:56
chohmannI tried all the mirrors, kept getting 40308:56
sevetsthanks for the help everyone08:56
sevetsre inspecting the hardware did it08:56
crimmychohmann: I was under the impression that the entire master repo moved.08:56
dell500sevets, does the resolution thing work now?08:56
danbaalka_trash: do rread this page, you seem interested: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MOTU08:56
sevetsyup08:57
sevetsmuch much better08:57
dell500like in gui?08:57
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alka_trashdanba: okay08:57
Fikranndell500, you're editing xorg.conf? Then you don't want fbdev there, for sure.08:57
dell500Fikrann, so no then :008:57
dell500:)08:57
chohmanncrimmy: reading through the backports forum, it seems they took down the master to improve the sycn speed for the mirrors, but i and others on the forum seem to be getting 403 when attempting to access the mirrors themselves08:58
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JasonFthe one mirror works08:59
JasonFwhat is it... the 02:58 -!- stormie` [stan@60.48.223.1]  has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 08:59
JasonFdamn, bad paste08:59
chohmannJason: which one? mirrormax?08:59
JasonFlemm eget the url of the mirror that's working for me08:59
JasonFhttp://acm.cs.umn.edu08:59
JasonFdownloading mplayer from it as we speak08:59
alka_trashdanba: Thanks :D08:59
chohmannJasonF: hmm, i tried that one. I'll try  it again now.09:00
sevetsDo I have to do anything special to access windows shares?09:00
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Jet2k5Does anyone here know the package to control sound themes?09:00
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danbachohmann: http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/url.php may tell you what you are looking for.09:01
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danbaalka_trash: was that related to what you were talking about with teh web page?09:01
alka_trashdanba: yep09:01
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danbaalka_trash: cool, cause I wasnt sure if I got the right thing.09:02
chohmannJasonF: it seems to be working now. thanks09:02
alka_trashdanba: Ha ha, I guess I should be more descriptive,  Thanks again09:02
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danbano, not only that, but I am not really that knowledgeable. welcome.09:02
sebastyanHi09:02
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danbachohmann: do read that page, too, it will explain. I think, anyhow.09:03
danbaexplained it to me:)09:03
chohmanndanba: loading it as we speak. :)09:03
sebastyanhow can i 5urn off iptables in Ubuntu ???09:03
sebastyanbecvause skype is not working !!09:03
JormundgandUse Gaim. :)09:04
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benplautkillall iptables?09:05
Tezkahskype is for voice... ;)09:05
giggseyhow can I access my windows partion through ubuntu?09:05
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sebastyani need Skype !09:05
Tezkahgiggsey: mount it09:05
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naapuriHello. I'd like to open an OOo file that is located on a remote smb share. I installed the openoffice-gnomevfs package, but it doesn't seem to do anything (I'd expect it to modify the File->Open dialog.) gnomevfs-cat et al. work ok, so the share is working.09:05
giggseyTezkah -> whats the command? im a n00b09:05
chohmanndanba: yeah, i saw that page. Here's a related thread from the forums. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3752509:05
Tezkahgiggsey: "man mount"09:05
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sebastyanreally09:05
sebastyanis really important09:05
sebastyanso can anyone help me ?09:05
Tezkahhint: what is your windows partition? NTFS?09:06
Fator_Deesebastyan: there's no firewall needed in ubuntu by default, so you don't have to kill iptables09:06
giggseyFAT3209:06
naapuriI also tried OOo2 from backports. Its File->Open dialog shows the share but it still doesn't open any documents over it.09:06
sevetsIs there anything special I need to do to access a windows share?09:06
naapuriAny ideas?09:06
r0dsevets, samba09:06
sebastyan killall iptables it does not work09:06
sevetsr0d, samba is the protocol right?09:07
benplautsabastyan: do a "killall skype" and then reload it first... when you add it to startup programs, it will run in the background, but not in the panel. Only logs in once... second time won't work09:07
Fator_Deesebastyan: because it won't09:07
r0dSevets, its a deamon that runs SMB protocol09:07
sevetsaha!09:07
Fator_Deegiggsey: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountfat09:08
naapurisevets, ubuntu doesn't use iptables by default. you can confirm this by runnning the command "iptables-save". If there's no firewall, it prints nothing.09:08
r0dsevets, but does alot more then just file sharing.09:08
sebastyanAny ideas ... i'm at work and we use Skype to talk ... am mine does not work09:08
sebastyanis there a firewall in Ubuntu ???09:08
sebastyanso i can stop it .. maybe it will work ?09:08
giggseythanks Fator_Doe09:08
sevetsr0d, what else does it do?09:08
Tezkahsebastyan: do you have a router?09:08
Fator_Deesebastyan: there's is *no* firewall by default09:08
naapurisebastyan, look at my previous line (accidentally went to sevets)09:08
sebastyanif i do iptables -L i get a huge list some of them are DROP09:08
sebastyan??? :(09:08
TezkahSkype is weird.  It either works by default, or it doesn't work and is impossible to configure09:08
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benplautsebastyan: killall skype... same thing happened to me, and it took me ages to figure out that that's all i needed09:09
r0dsevets,  it can run as a domain controller, file share server. basiclly almost anything microsoft server2003 can do w/ smb09:09
sevetsamazing09:09
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sevetsr0d, for now how do I use it to access windows shares?09:09
Fator_Deesebastyan: that iptables -L doesn't necessarily mean that it has anything to do with skype09:09
Fator_Deesebastyan: do what benplaut said an write "killall skype"09:10
sebastyanis there anything else to use voice over ip ( as a skype user ) ?09:10
sebastyani mean to use skype protokol ??09:10
Fator_Dee*and09:10
naapurir0d, any ideas on how to use openoffice to access a gnomevfs share - or, why it might not work?09:10
r0dsevets, download samba then do '/etc/init.d/samba start09:10
benplauti use skype09:10
sebastyanbenplaut, u use skype under Ubuntu Linux and work ???09:11
r0dnaapuri, dont know much about openoffice09:11
sevetsr0d, am I able to use apt to get that?09:11
r0dyea09:11
Fator_Deesebastyan: have you tried that tip that benplaut said?09:11
benplautsabastyan: yup... and a default install, when it comes to networking09:11
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JasonFhow do you remove all of the deps of kubuntu-desktop?09:11
JasonFI installed it, and decided I prefergnome, and I want to get rid of the kubuntu desktop09:12
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sebastyanFator_Dee: yes i tried ... and nothing special happened09:12
gandalfhey all09:12
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sebastyanwhen i tri chat it says that message not delivered yet09:13
benplautsebastyan: so it won't let you log in?09:13
gandalfi really need help here09:13
yahalomi'm having issues installing XFC09:13
yahalomcan someone help?09:13
benplautgandalf: no need to ask permission to ask... ask away!  :)09:13
Jormundgandgandalf: The answer is 42.09:13
yahalomconfigure: error: Library requirements (sigc++-2.0 >= 2.0.6) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them09:13
yahalomlol09:14
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gandalftrying to play mp3's downloaded mpg123, but still no luck?09:14
sebastyanand when i try to call someone nothing happens09:14
crimmyyahalom: XFC?09:14
jeff25yahalom: install libsigc++09:14
benplautgandalf: follow the instructions at www.ubuntuguide.org09:14
Tezkahgandalf: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats09:14
sevetsr0d, samba does not come with Ubuntu?09:14
benplautcrimmy: a great file manager09:14
sebastyani log in skype and i can send ONLY one message , afterwards i cannot send or call nobody09:15
gandalfthanks09:15
benplautsevets: not by default09:15
sebastyanall i get is : "Message not delivered yet "09:15
crimmyJasonF: currently there's no intuitive method. You have to remove its dependencies manually.09:15
sebastyanand that's all09:15
sebastyan:(09:15
sevetsbenplaut, thankya09:15
crimmybenplaut: just ensuring he didn't neglect a vowel09:15
r0dsevets, uncertain. im from gentoo. you can check by looking in /etc/init.d    if you see a samba script you have it.09:15
benplautsabastyan: go into synaptic, find the package "skype", and press ctrl+e, and force it to the oldest version09:15
sevetsr0d, thankya09:15
yahalomjeff25, my repos dont have that package09:16
r0dsevets, or to see if its running do a ps -aux | grep samba09:16
benplautcrimmy: that's what i thought when i first heard of XFE  ;)09:16
yahalomjeff25, just google it?09:16
jeff25yahalom: apt-cache search sigc09:16
sevetsWhat is the best mode of installation?09:16
sebastyanokay i will try that09:16
crimmysevets: /etc/init.d/samba status09:16
Jormundgandsevets: Burning each bit individually into the memory. :D09:17
sevetsohnoes09:17
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sevetshaha09:17
Fikrannbrb09:17
jeff25yahalom: sudo apt-get install libsigc++2.0-dev09:17
sevetsA binary should work fine?09:17
Fator_DeeI prefer stainless steel punch cards,09:18
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gandalfwhat about getting evolution mail to see a proxy?09:18
JasonFcrimmy: that's nothing less than evil09:19
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gandalftrue, but i need it for my network09:19
crimmyJasonF: well at least it's scriptable09:19
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gandalfsay what?09:19
ToutPT|ppc|frmorning'09:20
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danbacrimmy: hey, I had a question related to the dependency removal, once you dont want something... seeing as your name is referenced in aptitude(did you write that?) so, no way to remove those? I thought bob2 said you would remove if installed by aptitude, once you remove with aptitude...09:20
JormundgandWhere do I find the .desktop files which are in the menu?09:20
danbaToutPT|ppc|fr: morning.09:20
crimmydanba: you can remove them09:21
jeff25Jormundgand: /usr/share/applications09:21
crimmydanba: aptitude also is intelligent and tracks package usage, so if you don't use something for a while, it'll remove it09:21
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dell500how do i switch to KDE?09:21
Tezkahdell500: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop09:21
danbacrimmy, aha. did you write it?09:21
dell500well it's installed09:21
dell500i'm in gnome right now09:22
Tezkahdo you get a login screen?09:22
Tezkahclose the session09:22
Tezkahchoose session type -> KDE09:22
crimmydanba: no; you probably saw my name in the package changelog09:22
Tezkahthen log in, and you should boot into KDE09:22
dell500no login09:22
Tezkahit just goes straight to GNOME?09:22
dell500oh09:22
dell500nm09:22
Tezkahor do you get a Ubuntu screen with a little drumroll09:22
dell500i'm slow lol09:22
dell500brb09:22
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Tezkahdell500: so?09:23
danbacrimmy: k, thanks. so you have to use aptitude to install, then it tracks package usage, so if I don't use some dependencies for a while, it'll remove them?09:23
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dell500nope nothing09:23
dell500no login, so how do i switch to kde09:24
Tezkahso you close your gnome session, right?09:24
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crimmydanba: yep09:24
danbadell, log out, click on session, choose kde, sign in.09:24
dell500ya, brings me to a shell session09:24
Tezkahoh.  that's not good at all09:24
dell500nope09:24
Tezkahso how do you start gnome?09:24
Tezkahstartx ?09:24
dell500i edited my xorg.conf for just depth of 24 for my resolutions and it freaked09:24
danbaceratinly isnt what he was trying to do09:24
dell500yup09:24
sevetsWould anyone describe to me how to install samba on Ubuntu?09:25
Tezkahhmm, you'd have to edit a bunch of text files... xint I think? I have no idea09:25
benplautsebastyan: working now?09:25
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GNAMCHICCCHIRICCHI'!09:26
GNAMops09:26
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giggseyshit, i dont have gcc09:26
sevetshum09:26
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jacquesmerdewhich repo is gmpc in?09:27
naapurisevets, if you just want to access a windows share and you are using gnome, try "Places -> Connect to Server..."09:27
sevetsahhha09:27
sevetsthankya naapuri09:27
danbagiggsey: sudo apt-get install build-essential09:28
yahalomanybody having issues logging in to gnome09:28
yahalom?09:28
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danbaaltho, you should be like, hey, how can I install gcc rather.09:28
sevetsoh yes and one more thing09:28
dell500w00t, back in kde09:28
sevetshow do I mount a hard drive?09:29
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danbawhat filesystem?09:29
giggseyE: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution). -> but i dont have the CD anymore09:29
sevetsI believe it is ntfs... It would be read only I think for now right?09:29
danbawell, you are online... try sudo apt-get -f install09:29
danbahttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions sevets09:30
danbaI think that has it have to check that page out tomorrow.09:30
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sevetsthanks danba09:31
giggseyMedia change: please insert the disc labeled09:31
giggsey 'Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)'09:31
giggseyin the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter09:31
giggsey -> and i dont have the disc09:31
Tezkahanyone want to let me SSH into their box?09:31
danbajacquesmerde, lets do this, what repos do you have enabled?09:31
TezkahI need to forma^w practice09:31
danbawelcome, sevets.09:31
danbagiggsey: please edit your sources.list, and comment out the first line, pertaining to the cd.09:31
danbaI bet you dont know how, hey?09:31
danbaTezkah: what?09:32
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danbahey, carnet.hr!09:32
jeff25Failed to fetch http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/ubp/dists/hoary-backports/main/binary-i386/smbfs_3.0.14a-1~5.04ubp1_i386.deb  403 Forbidden09:33
jeff25?09:33
danbajeff25: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=37525 .09:34
chohmannjeff25: try the umn.edu mirror09:34
jacquesmerdedanba, i think i just have universe enabled. i figure its in multiverse or marillat?09:34
jeff25ok09:34
danbamultiverse if you have universe, I guess....:-/ wanna try that, and tell me if it helps before I unload my sources.list onto you?09:35
danbagiggsey: whenever you are ready.09:36
jacquesmerdedanba, forget it. i'll stick with glurp09:36
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jeff25what is the diff between hoary-backports and hoary-backports-staging?09:36
danbaI agree with that, tried that other program today, not very friendly.09:36
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giggseyive edited it danba09:37
Seveasjeff25, backport sucks, backports-stagings sucks harder :)09:37
jeff25Seveas: well I need smbfs and it's on backports09:37
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danbagiggsey: great. so it works now?09:38
Seveasjeff25, it's in the normal repositories too!09:38
giggseyhow to i rebuilt it again, i closed shell, lol, lost my last commands09:38
SeveasNEVER use backports unless absolutely needed (which means: NEVER use backports)09:38
giggseynvm09:38
danbaSeveas: hi. did you know we have a bot?09:39
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Seveasdanba, bots are not allowed here, unless you have talked about it with the operators...09:39
danbaSeveas: I mean in the channel...hehe, so you didnt...09:39
danba!hi09:39
ubotuhello, danba09:39
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Seveasdanba, remove that bot please09:40
dell500yes! 3d accel and gui resolution!09:40
giggseyi ran sudo apt-get-update and got ive messaged it to you09:40
danbaSeveas: sure, let me go remove the official bot...:)09:40
Seveasdanba, bots are not allowed here, unless you have talked about it with the operators...09:40
tigerHello.09:40
Seveashmm, official09:40
danbayeah, I read your first post...09:40
Seveassince when?09:40
danbanot sure, bob2 told me about it an hour or so ago.09:40
jacquesmerdewhy is my ubuntu partition 20gb full already??? i only isntalled three days ago!!!09:40
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Seveasand since when do the operators allow obnoxious !hi commands...09:40
danbajacquesmerde: why do you surf porn?09:40
giggseylol09:41
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giggseyits stuff like !kick !ban !op09:41
jeff25Seveas: you're right.  Thanks09:41
danbaSeveas: please go see with them, not sure:) maybe its a secret... for now...09:41
jacquesmerdedanba, well, i didnt THINK i did. maybe subconsciously i am...09:41
capianyone here used updatedd for dyndns?09:41
danbahaha, yeah, right...09:41
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danbajacquesmerde: just joking, though, what programs do you use, for file sharing and such?09:41
DekaPinkHey all... If I edit my Ubuntu partition with partition magic... Would that mess it up? :309:42
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danbagiggsey: please comment those repositories out too.09:42
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jacquesmerdei've dloaded TWO mp3's with giftoxic, and ripped TWO cds with juicer09:42
tigerexcuse me, i just installed ubuntu, which went quite well; i have only two questions: 1) how do i set/get to know the root password? 2) screen res is 1024x768 / 60 Hz, how can i get it up to 75+ Hz? (it was that high on the last OS on this computer) ..09:42
danbathe backports, comment them out, giggsey.09:42
Seveasjacquesmerde, have you installed a *lot* of stuff already from the repositories?09:42
giggseyoO09:42
boguesDekaPink, I've found partition magic to do bad things.  I would trust parted before that09:43
giggseydone09:43
jacquesmerdeSeveas, just gftp, tetex, and gstreamer0.8-mad09:43
Seveastiger: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo09:43
boguesDekaPink, partition magic hosed an ext3 partition of mine one time09:43
danbajacquesmerde: you are a criminal, please dont come here anymore:)09:43
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jacquesmerdedanba, the mad thing?09:43
danbaDekaPink: try qtparted, or gparted09:43
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Fator_Deejacquesmerde: I once had a 8.7gig .xsession-errors -file on my age old mandrake installation ^_^09:43
DekaPinkbogues: I've installed gparted, but it doesn't seem to want to do antyhing to the partitions other than show me their properties.09:43
Seveastiger, for the second question: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:43
giggseynow i get:09:43
giggseyeading package lists... Done09:43
giggseyBuilding dependency tree... Done09:43
giggseyE: Couldn't find package build-essential09:43
jacquesmerdehow do i check the size of my home directory?09:43
jeff25Seveas: is there anyway to get a list of all packages from backports using dpkg?09:44
Choubakajacquesmerde: du -h09:44
boguesDekaPink, actually you might want to download a bootdisk with parted09:44
Seveasgiggsey, make sure your sources.list looks like http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/3809:44
danbajacquesmerde: no, you downloaded 2 songs through gift...tsk, tsk...09:44
Seveasjacquesmerde, du checks sizes of folders09:44
johnnybezakhey guys anyone know an rss reader for the cli?09:44
danbagiggsey: uncomment main.09:44
Seveasread its manpage before using it :)09:44
boguesDekaPink, download a floppy with parted....i had one but can't remember it.  it worked great.09:44
tigerah.. hm. why does sudo ask for my password again?09:44
Choubakaand they're directories -_-09:44
Choubakanot folder.09:44
Choubakafolders*09:45
tigerif i'm already logged in?09:45
napsyRecently I upgraded my kernel to 2.6.12-rc5 but now I have a problem. I have a disk with a VFAT partiton(hdc1). When I try to mount it on /mnt/share, mount says that the device is already mounted or /mnt/share is in use. But none of the two is true. In 2.6.11 I could mount hdc1 with no problems. Please help.09:45
jacquesmerdedanba, i never said they were songs. just a bit of opensource sound...09:45
Fator_Deetiger: you are already logged in?09:45
tigerwell, as my user account09:45
Fator_Deetiger: as a normal user?09:45
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Fator_Deetiger: then it's normal behaviour09:45
Seveastiger, that's how sudo works (fortunately)09:45
danbajacquesmerde: yeah, I kno, I kno, just teasing you...:) you didnt get that?09:45
Seveasyou can disable that though09:45
tigerah, okay09:45
DekaPinkI don't have a floppy drive... Heh.09:45
Fator_Deetiger: sudo asks for root permission09:45
Choubakanapsy: may I suggest something? downgrade.09:45
Seveastoger, read man sudoers09:45
jacquesmerdedanba, i'm down, punk09:45
Seveastiger*09:45
tigerThank you.09:45
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Choubakanapsy: using bleeding edge kernels is begging for trouble09:46
napsyChoubaka: but 2.6.11 was to me very unstable09:46
danbaoh, man, I hate that... its late, I guess.09:46
Choubakanapsy: so use ubuntu's 2.6.1009:46
Ryan_Could anyone help me out, the HDD on my laptop is fucked somehow. It will start makeing a jumpung clicking sound then it causes my comp to shut down. Not shut down propperly, just switches off there and then. So im going to phone the tech support and use my warranty to get a new HDD for my laptop, but i cant be fucked haveing to send my laptop so im just going to ask if they can send a new HDD out and ill fit it myself and if they wish ill send the defe09:46
Ryan_cted one back. But just incase they dont believe me i was wondering if anyone has any ideas for a good story to tell them as to whats causing the problem, any ideas?09:46
giggseystill E: Couldn't find package build-essential, i haven't uncommented main09:46
Choubakawell, do it :P09:46
giggseylol09:46
Choubakayou need main uncommented :P09:46
Seveasgiggsey, make sure your sources.list looks like http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/3809:47
giggseyi have09:47
Seveasand do an apt-get update09:47
Choubakaye.09:47
giggseyive done update09:47
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giggseyhow do i uncomment main?09:47
Choubakaremove the #09:47
Choubaka:P09:47
giggseystupid question09:47
Seveasgiggsey, paste your sources.list and the output of apt-get update on ubuntu.pastebin.com please09:47
Choubakawell, not really.09:47
gandalfs there a difference between atp-get and synaptic09:47
Choubakayes and no.09:47
Ryan_Anyone ??????09:48
Seveasgandalf, yes09:48
jacquesmerdesurely mounting a windows partition wouldnt be the reason i seem to have used 20gig on this ubuntu partition?09:48
Seveasapt-get is command line09:48
Choubakasynaptic is a completely different application09:48
danbajeff25: here it is: ftp://ftp2.caliu.info/backports/dists/ .09:48
Seveassynaptic a gui09:48
danbaa list of them, jeff25.09:48
Seveasthey both use libapt :)09:48
jeff25danba: thanks09:48
Choubakathey do the same thing though, yeah. :)09:48
jeff25danba: been looking for that09:48
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giggseyhttp://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/5609:48
Fator_DeeRyan_: I don't think there's any other option but to give them the whole computer09:49
danbaRyan_: what kind of story would you like us to make up?09:49
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yahalomi need help. finally finally i logged into gnome. it took 4 minutes. when i press logout it takes a minute. any ideas?09:49
yahalommy comp is fast.09:49
Ryan_danba, just a feasable one as to why a hard drive would be doing such a thing09:49
danbaRyan_: saying *bump* is also less annoying...not that I am easily annoyed...09:49
Choubakayahalom: you don't have DMA enabled? :|09:49
Choubakaor do you have SATA?09:50
Seveasgiggsey, your sources.list is not correct09:50
yahalomChoubaka, i didnt change anything09:50
r0dhey Seveas. is their a way to customer the splashimage of ubuntu?09:50
TezkahRyan_: yeah, watch out, they'll usually just sendy our laptop back formatted09:50
Ryan_I know its a part of the hard drive because it always occurs when i try to run azueras bit torrent client09:50
danbaRyan_: it started doing it by itself, you were on vacation, I would always say that.09:50
yahalomChoubaka, how can i enable it?09:50
Choubakayahalom: yeah, still.09:50
giggseyok sevaes?09:50
Tezkahso use knoppix or something to try ad get the data out of it09:50
yahalomChoubaka, or at least check for it09:50
Choubakayahalom: sudo hdparm -d /dev/hddevice09:50
Fator_DeeRyan_: check the smart-info of your harddrive09:50
Ryan_Tezkah, ive reformatted twice since the problem first arose09:50
Choubakawhat type of HD do you have?09:50
yahalomChoubaka, oh man09:50
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Choubakasata or ata?09:50
yahalomChoubaka, thats it09:50
Ryan_smart info of my hard drive?09:51
Ryan_how do i do that Fator_Dee09:51
yahalomChoubaka, i changed something hdparm to make it faster09:51
danbar0d: do read http://art.gnome.org/faq.php#q809:51
Choubakaok, so you can enable it with hdparm -d109:51
TezkahRyan_: then... send it in?  funky harddrive?09:51
Fator_DeeRyan_: sudo smartctl -a /dev/hda, if you don't have smartctl installed, install it09:51
Seveasgiggsey, http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/5709:51
yahalomChoubaka, replace hddevice with hda1 fo ex?09:51
Seveasuse THAT as your sources.list, i've corrected it09:51
Choubakano.09:51
Choubakajust hda09:51
Ryan_Fator_Dee, im not on ubuntu at the moment09:51
Choubakaif that's your HD09:51
Ryan_im on dows partition09:51
Choubakahda1 is a partition09:52
Seveasr0d, yes, which splashimage do you mean?09:52
Fator_DeeRyan_: well, if you go to ubuntu09:52
yahalomChoubaka, man but i used hdparm to increase the speed of my cdrom09:52
r0dSeveas, dont know what unbuntu calls it, but the splash image is the jpeg picture doing bootup09:53
yahalomChoubaka, dma is on now, dont knwo if it was befora09:53
Ryan_sod it. ill phone just now and see if they will. If not then what the hell ill just have to send the entire thing :-\09:53
Fator_DeeRyan_: and I'd think there are programs on windows that check the smart info of harddrives, but I don't know of any09:53
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giggseySeveas: http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/5809:53
Choubakayahalom: you may want to edit /etc/hdparm.conf to make it permanent09:53
Ryan_cheers peeps :)09:53
r0ddanba, thx for gui solution, but I'm looking for the file it uses09:53
Seveasr0d, bootup? you mean after logging in?09:53
yahalomChoubaka, but it took a sec for the logout screen to show. so i guess it works:)09:53
r0dSeveas, bootup09:53
Choubakayahalom: hehe :P09:53
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yahalomChoubaka, what do i change?09:53
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Seveashmm, during bootup ubuntu has no splash09:53
Choubakauhh, well hmm.09:54
danbaSeveas , r0d, are you sure you read the faq, r0d? it seems to refer a file...09:54
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giggseySeveas, http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/5809:54
r0dSeveas, in the grub installation i had a 'splash' image in the grub folder that you could change09:54
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danbagiggsey: patience is a virtue...09:54
giggseykk09:54
naapuricifs/smb problem solved: apt-get install smbfs, then manual mount.09:54
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giggseylol09:54
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Seveasgiggsey, do apt-get update09:54
r0ddanba, not fulling, but I'm gonna look at it some more now. thx09:54
WhiteDoveHiya09:54
Seveasah! during grub09:54
yahalomChoubaka, that doesnt make it permanent?09:54
giggseyits downloading some09:55
r0d:)09:55
Choubakayahalom: no.09:55
Choubakayahalom: I'll post an example config09:55
Seveasyou can edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and put a 14-color xpm file in /boot/grub09:55
yahalomChoubaka, #dma = on09:55
yahalomChoubaka, ok09:55
Seveasr0d, there is a howto on that on either the wiki or the forums09:55
r0dah so thats the file, thx Seveas09:55
r0dyea danba just pointed it to me. thx09:55
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WhiteDoveHello09:56
danbathat one is not for the boot up splash, it is for what they call the gnome splash screen, right after you log in.09:56
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prasysneed help09:56
prasysokay , whenver i try to mount my NTFS Partition09:56
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tigerthanks for the help :)09:57
prasysKonqueror says "i don't have premission"09:57
giggseyits working now i think09:57
Madpilotg'night, all.09:57
prasysnnite madpilot09:57
prasys*permisson09:57
danbaprasys: how do you mount it? http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions .09:57
prasysokay , but when i run it as root. I can view it09:57
Seveasprasys, add umask=0000 to the mount options09:57
Choubakayahalom: http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/5909:57
prasyssudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda4 /mnt09:57
ChoubakaDMA makes the biggest difference.09:58
prasysand /mnt is owned by root09:58
prasysand I Can't even change the permissons09:58
Seveasprasys, sudo mount -t /dev/hda4 /mnt -o umask=000009:58
prasysi shall try that09:59
danbado you want it to mount automatically?09:59
prasyscan09:59
prasysagain , i can't acesss09:59
prasysbut then if i go to /mnt and type ls09:59
giggseyHow do I install a rpm?10:00
prasysi can see my windows files10:00
jeff25Seveas: why do you think backports suck?10:00
Seveasprasys, umount it first10:00
danbawell, umount, yes.10:00
prasysgiggsey > convert to deb with alien10:00
Seveasjeff25, because the tend to cause breakage10:00
danbagiggsey: why, is it something that is not avaliable as a .deb?10:00
prasysseveas > how do i go about that10:00
jeff25Seveas: and why does that happen ?10:00
Seveasdanba, umount /mnt10:00
prasysI Tried un-mounting . it says....i don't have the premisson again10:00
giggseyill look for the .deb10:00
yahalomChoubaka, the focus is cdrom and hd right? mine are all commented out? i need to uncomment them, like urs?10:00
danbasudo umount /mnt10:01
Seveasjeff25, because the people who buikd the backports are not good enough at packagebuilding...10:01
prasysit says , its already mounted mutiple times10:01
johnnybezakhow do i search apt from the cli10:01
Seveasprasys, umount -f /mnt10:01
Seveasseveral times :)10:01
Seveasjohnnybezak, apt-cache search10:01
danbagiggsey: sudo aptitude search '~nkeyword' helps, with searching.10:01
jeff25Seveas: ah10:01
yahalomChoubaka, what is this: #command_line {10:01
yahalom#       hdparm -q -m16 -q -W0 -q -d1 /dev/hda10:01
yahalom#}10:01
yahalom?10:01
jeff25Seveas: what is a 'backport' anyway10:01
yahalomoops longer than i thought sorry10:02
prasysk10:02
prasysdone10:02
johnnybezakwhats the package i need for mp3 playback10:02
Seveasjeff25, a backport is a newer version of some package adapted to work in an older version of a distribution10:02
Choubakayahalom: that's for defining a direct command to run10:02
Seveas(in this case)10:02
jeff25Seveas: ah10:02
Seveasprasys, now try mount10:02
yahalomChoubaka, should i remove that?10:02
Seveasprasys, sudo mount -t /dev/hda4 /mnt -o umask=000010:02
Seveasprasys, sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda4 /mnt -o umask=000010:02
danbayou should really use aptitude, from command line, I hear.10:02
Choubakayahalom: leave it commented out.10:02
Seveasdanba, yes, aptitude rocks10:03
Fator_Deeyahalom: you can leave it commented out for foture reference10:03
Fator_Dee*future10:03
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Choubakait will have no effect with those #s in the beginning of the line :=10:03
Choubaka:) even10:03
Dr_MelectausCompaq are a bunch of chunts!10:03
danba!restricted10:03
Dr_MelectausI payed 500 pounds for a warranty there claiming i dont fucking have!10:03
uboturumour has it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats10:03
yahalomChoubaka, and i have one /dev/cdroms and one /dev/cdrom what do i do? i have 2 cdroms, one writer and one plain10:03
jeff25Seveas: so what's the solution? Run old stuff ?10:04
danbajohnnybezak: do what ubotu said.10:04
Dr_MelectausFUCKING COMPAQ SCUM10:04
yahalomFator_Dee, thanx10:04
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Seveasjeff25, with a 6-month release schedule, there is no old stuff...10:04
transgressDr_Melectaus: calm down in here... we aren't compaq...10:04
Choubakayahalom: are they different physical drives?10:04
SeveasDr_Melectaus, watch your language please...10:04
Choubakayahalom: define sections for them too10:04
yahalomChoubaka, yes10:04
transgressnight everyone10:04
yahalomChoubaka, no clue how to do that10:04
Dr_Melectaussorry just i didnt think compaw where such scamming chunts10:04
Dr_Melectaustheyve nicked 500 quid from me the thieving gits10:05
echelon_yahalom, hi!10:05
SeveasDr_Melectaus: Please keed the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct10:05
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Choubakayahalom: with the syntax /device/file { options-each-on-their-own-line }10:05
jeff25Seveas: I agree with you though... backports packing people make some mistakes... for example the fluxbox 0.9.13 is broken.  I had to compile my own version and make a .deb for it.  They didn't compile it with the right configure switches10:05
JormundgandI've never understood how people can confuse "were" (which rhymes with "fur") and "where" (which rhymes with "fair").10:05
yahalomChoubaka, i pasted the section: http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/60 can u check it out pls?10:05
Choubakayahalom: just like in the examples of the config10:05
Choubakayahalom: hmm10:06
Choubakado you have a /dev/cdroms/cdrom0?10:06
danbaDr_Melectaus: quite amusing, well, do you have a receipt?10:06
Dr_Melectausdanba, yes i do10:06
yahalomChoubaka, yes10:06
Choubakagood10:06
danbawell, it is legal proof.10:06
yahalomChoubaka, and dev/cdrom10:06
DalkusIf you own the English version of a game (as in, you have bought it) - would it be illegal to download a version of the game in another language? (for learning purposes?)10:07
Choubakado ls -l /dev/cdrom10:07
Dr_Melectausand those scrote sucking poo's are going to be getting a right earfull when i next contact them10:07
jeff25Seveas: since I'm an ex gentoo user, 6 months is a long time to wait.  I'm sure I'll be compiling stuff like fluxbox the day it hits the CVS server10:07
ChoubakaDalkus: probably :/10:07
Choubakadepends on the licence.10:07
Dalkusbah, sucks10:07
Dalkusokay, thanks10:07
yahalomChoubaka, lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 3 2005-05-31 09:15 /dev/cdrom -> hdc10:07
Seveasjeff25 ah :)10:07
danbaJormundgand: its getting hot in herr, so, I dont see what you mean...10:07
Choubakayahalom: ok. and what about /dev/cdroms/cdrom0?10:07
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yahalomChoubaka, lol nothing10:08
yahalomChoubaka, so i should just comment that out?10:08
Choubakathen you don't have it10:08
Choubakaeys.10:08
Choubakayes*10:08
danbaDr_Melectaus: please understand the difference between a person lijke you workijng on the phone for a company, and the company's policy when you call the,.10:08
Choubakaso hmm, what's your other cdrom device then?10:09
Dr_Melectausdanba, sorry?10:09
Choubakayahalom: ls -l /dev/cd* and tell me all but /dev/cdrom10:09
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yahalomChoubaka, but i dont have to seperate entries for each drive. i have one entry for both drives. so unless i have cds in both i dont see them listed? get what i mean? can i change that?10:09
yahalomChoubaka, lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 3 2005-05-31 09:15 /dev/cdrom1 -> hdd10:10
yahalomlrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 3 2005-05-31 09:15 /dev/cdrw -> hdc10:10
danbado understand the difference between some kid working for compaq, taking calls on the phone from angry customers, and the company COmpaq when you do call.10:10
Choubakayahalom: aha.10:10
guranHi, I have a problem with ntp, when doing ntpdate I get not permited to a server used by Mandriva and ntp-genkeys doesn't exist?10:10
yahalomChoubaka, found it?10:10
Choubakayour second cdrom device is /dev/hdd10:10
Choubakaor /dev/cdrom110:10
Choubakasee, it points to a different place than /dev/cdrom :)10:11
yahalomChoubaka, umm how do i know which one is it?10:11
Choubakachances are hdd is the non-burner.10:11
danikatahi all10:11
giggseyI am installing bmp and ive got:10:11
Choubakaas cdrw points to hdc :)10:11
danikatamay i ask10:11
giggseychecking for X... no10:11
giggseyconfigure: error: Cannot find X11 headers/libraries10:11
giggseyon configure10:11
Choubakayahalom: so define a section for /dev/cdrom1 too :)10:11
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yahalomChoubaka, ok so hdd not burner cdrw burned how should i mark them?10:12
danbagiggsey: beep-media-player?10:12
giggseyyes10:12
danikatai have add static ip in mcc, but i think i doesnt work10:12
yahalomChoubaka, so add /dev/cdrom1?10:12
Choubakayes.10:12
iceman2Kwow extracting a file and peeking my cpu ..10:12
danbaok, well, do try sudo aptitude install beep-media-player10:12
Choubakaabd just enable dma on it too.10:12
giggseykk10:12
Choubakaand*10:12
danikatais there any method to change ip address ?10:12
danbasudo aptitude install anythingPrettyMuchExceptReallyRarely10:13
yahalomChoubaka, ok i get it cdrom is the writer10:13
Echelon-Hbah, xchat is not saving my configuration in server list :(10:13
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jdizzleok so i installed realplayer 10 and it doesnt work10:13
danbajdizzle in da hizzle...10:13
jdizzlehehe10:13
yahalomChoubaka, so just copy it and add it underneath cdrom and change name to cdrom1 right?10:13
danbawhy, jdizzle? why realplayer?10:13
Seveasgiggsey, what are you compiling?10:13
danbabeepmediaplayer10:14
Seveashmm10:14
Seveasbeep-media-player is in the repositories!10:14
yahalomChoubaka, /dev/cdrom1 {10:14
yahalom       dma = on ?10:14
danbado you have nme on ignore half the time, seveas?10:14
giggseyive installed it now10:14
jdizzledanba: b/c realplayer is required for streaming video by a lot of sites online10:14
Seveasdanba, no10:14
danbaSeveas: I know what it is, I severely rarely put ppls nicks in front, when I am tired.10:15
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Choubakayahalom: you need the closing bracket too10:15
Seveashmm, i must read more carufully, missed your lines danba10:15
Seveassorry10:15
Choubakaotherwise that's correct10:15
yahalomChoubaka, its there, tried to save space in the chan10:15
danbathats cool:)10:15
Choubakayahalom: ok.10:15
danbaI didnt smile that time, tho, too tired.10:15
yahalomChoubaka, thanx a ton man. very very helpful10:15
giggsey:(10:15
yahalomChoubaka, be well10:15
Echelon-Hyahalom, sup :)?10:15
giggseyright, now ive got to work out how to get it playing wma10:15
jeff25using backports will cause dist-upgrade to fail later?10:15
jdizzleany1 here successfully install realplayer?10:15
yahalomEchelon-H,  10:16
BeTahi,10:16
Echelon-HBeTa, hi10:16
BeTahow can I add icons to the Gnome 2.10 menus ?10:16
ChoubakaWhat language was that yahalom just spoke? :|10:16
danbahebrew10:16
JormundgandHebrew.10:16
SeveasBeTa, art.gnome.org/faq.php :)10:16
Choubakaright.10:16
BeTaw/ warty (Gnome 2.8 ?) a right click on a menu was great :c)10:17
ChoubakaI guess it was UTF-810:17
BeTalet(s read ;c)10:17
Echelon-Hhehe... he said I'll be back in a second if anyone cares :P10:17
SeveasBeTa, ah you want to add menu entries?10:17
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SeveasBeTa, www.realistanew.com, search for smeg10:17
yahalomChoubaka, still not loggin in :(10:17
danbaseveas, BeTa, as well, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38183&highlight=smeg .10:17
JormundgandEchelon-H: Care to transliterate so those of us stuck with the poor Latin alphabet can read it?10:17
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Choubakayahalom: ok so hm. you need to restart hdparm10:18
dmoyneI have a problem with CUPS as I can no more access the CUPS server ! ; can somebody help ?10:18
Choubakasudo /etc/init.d/hdparm restart10:18
SeveasJormundgand, dpkg-reconfigure locales and enable UTF-8 ;)10:18
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danbaBeTa: you need to first install the  PyXDG dev for hoary and breezy users , then the  deb file for hoary and breezy user .10:18
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bob2dmoyne: what dod you change since it last worked?10:18
Echelon-HJormundgand, I think I already did :P10:18
yahalomChoubaka, ok :)10:18
selavaghHeya :)10:18
JormundgandSeveas: I saw the Hebrew fine, just can't read the alphabet.10:18
Echelon-HUuh, what's NFS?10:18
Seveasah ;)10:19
JormundgandEchelon-H: Transliterate != translate10:19
Echelon-HJormundgand, aha.10:19
benplautyahalom: atah meveen eevreet?10:19
BeTathere is no native way to add an icon to a menu, like in warty ?10:19
benplaut(no hebrew keyboard)10:19
ChoubakaEchelon-H: network filesystem.10:19
Echelon-Hbenplaut, shalom!10:19
benplautEchelon-H: gahm atah?10:19
Echelon-HChoubaka, I see. can I share files with win computer with this?10:19
giggseychecking for bmp >= 0.9.7... Package bmp was not found in the pkg-config search path.10:19
giggseyPerhaps you should add the directory containing `bmp.pc'10:19
giggseyto the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable10:19
giggseyNo package 'bmp' found10:19
giggseyconfigure: error: BMP >= 0.9.7 development package not installed10:19
ChoubakaEchelon-H: no.10:19
Echelon-Hbenplaut, yeah, but you better speak english here.10:19
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Choubakayou need samba.10:19
giggseywhen trying bmp-wma10:19
Echelon-HChoubaka, so it's only for linux comps?10:20
Seveasgiggsey, sudo apt-get install beep-medaia-player10:20
giggseyive got the player10:20
ChoubakaEchelon-H: yes.10:20
giggseyi need the wma plugin10:20
giggseywhich ive downloaded10:20
benplauti only speak a bit on hebrew, so no problem there (more understand)10:20
Choubakagiggsey: you need the -dev files.10:20
danbagiggsey: please use http://pastebin.com for pasting.10:20
Echelon-HChoubaka, ok, thanks.10:20
dmoynebob2, I do not know exactlty but I think I messed up in changing CUPS server name !!!!10:20
danbaor an equivalent10:20
Seveasgiggsey, sudo apt-get install beep-medaia-player-dev10:20
Seveas:)10:20
giggseykk10:20
Choubakamedia :P10:20
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giggseywill pastebin next time10:20
danbaSeveas: please use aptitude:)10:20
Seveashmm, typo :)10:20
danbajj.10:20
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selavaghwould it be good to do a reinstall of Ubuntu, as i found out it is quite fast, so to install LVM?10:20
benplautgeggsey: watch the ?typo?: "apt-get install beep-media-player-dev"10:21
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Seveasdanba, i use aptitude on my system, but am soo damn used to apt-get that i had to alias apt-get to aptitude :)10:21
giggseyi know10:21
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giggseyits downloading the files10:21
ChoubakaSeveas: :DD10:21
Echelon-HJormundgand, what's transliterate :P?10:21
danbanice idea, I think I may have to do that...not, really, better to learn.10:21
ChoubakaEchelon-H: translate from one script to another10:21
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Echelon-HChoubaka, which means O_o?10:22
jdizzleany1 install realplayer 10 on hoary?10:22
ChoubakaEchelon-H: like from hebrew letters to roman letters10:22
ubermonziehi all10:22
Choubakaor chinese kanji to roman letters.10:22
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Choubakaor roman letters to chinese -_-10:22
dhimass_sbyhi all10:22
Echelon-HOh10:22
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rj`10:22
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yahalomChoubaka, still not. i even rebooted10:22
dmoynebob2, any idea to reset CUPS ?10:22
danbajdizzle: read point 10 http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats .10:22
Echelon-HJormundgand, Ahzor Beshnia.10:22
dhimass_sbyanybody can help me10:22
danbaI agree.10:22
Choubakayahalom: I guess it's something else then :/10:22
Echelon-HJormundgand, if you're still intrested ;)10:22
ChoubakaWeird.10:23
nernhey there10:23
jeff25hoary-extras-staging is probably not a good idea to use.  Every package has a dep on gcc4.0 heh10:23
japoederdoes anyone have any suggestions for dvd playback.  I tried the method in the unofficial guide but apparently the libdvdcss2 file is no longer available10:23
dhimass_sbyanybody can help me10:23
thoreauputicdhimass_sby: don't ask to ask, just ask10:23
jdizzlety10:23
Echelon-Hjapoeder, try vlc player?10:23
dhimass_sbyok thanks10:23
Dalkus"Warning: could not grab  your mouse, a malicious client may be monitering you screen" What do I do when I get that?10:23
jeff25japoeder: libdvdcss2 is on backports10:23
japoederwhere do I get vlc player10:23
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Echelon-Hjapoeder, if something is not playing on vlc, it will never play.10:23
danbathoreauputic: hey, I liked how he said that anyone can help him, though...10:23
dhimass_sbyhow to clone my ubuntu disk?10:24
dmoyneI can no more install printers with CUPS any idea to solve the problem ?10:24
thoreauputicdanba: heh - this remains to be seen however ;)10:24
danba!restricted japoeder10:24
ubotuI haven't a clue, danba10:24
danbajapoeder: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats .10:24
Echelon-Hjapoeder, sudo apt-get install vlc10:24
yahalomChoubaka, in /etc/hdparm.conf is it meant to be: # -q be quiet10:24
yahalomquiet10:24
japoederthanks10:24
Choubakayahalom: hehh, yeah -_-10:25
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Echelon-Hanyone here maybe knows of a hardware support channel on IRC?10:25
yahalomChoubaka, man what could it be? nothing in hdparm?10:25
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Choubakapossibly.10:25
yahalomChoubaka,can u check my hdparm plz?10:25
dhimass_sbyanyone have idea, how to clone my ubuntu disk? as backup10:25
Echelon-Hdhimass_sby, re-burn it? or download the iso again?10:26
Choubakayahalom: paste hdparm -i /dev/hda to pastebin10:26
DalkusEchelon-H, maybe he got the packaged CD10:26
Choubakaand are you sure hda is your hard disk? :P10:26
yahalomChoubaka, yes10:26
Choubakaok.10:26
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dhimass_sbyup-s sorry , i mean my harddisk10:27
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dhimass_sbywith ubuntu inside10:27
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jdizzlewhats best media player for hoary release (that plays like mp3 and mpeg files)10:27
nerntotem10:27
Dalkusxine, mplayer are far better than totem, I find10:28
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Choubakamplayer crashes my computer -_-10:28
espiemhello10:28
Echelon-Hvlc player can play everything.10:28
ubermonzievlc is good10:28
ubermonziexine is my fave10:28
jdizzleanything similar to winamp?10:28
ChoubakaEchelon-H: not vmw10:28
ubermonzieruns without troubles10:28
yahalomChoubaka, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/29254410:28
Choubakajdizzle: xmms10:28
dhimass_sbybut in xine, crashes my comp too10:28
espiemplease anybody tell me how to install splash screen?10:28
Dalkusxmms is a clone of winamp10:28
ubermonziegxine is not stable though10:28
Dalkusand also beep-media-player, is also a clone10:28
ubermonziexmms is good for mp3 too10:28
BeTaaahaha !! I've found !! to add or remove items from gnome menus, you have to the "system tools" menu and launch "Add/Remove programs" or somthing like that (I'm using an internationalized gnome)10:29
jeff25totem sucks10:29
Choubakayahalom: it's missing the closing bracket.10:29
dhimass_sbyup-s sorry , i mean to clone my harddisk with ubuntu inside10:29
BeTatotem sucks... in fact... does someone here can read multimedia files w/ totem ? it is crashing everytimes here !!10:29
Choubakayahalom: and you only have a section for /dev/cdrom10:29
thoreauputicbet0x: umm - that removes the program, not just the menu entry10:29
ubermonzietotem doesnt work in ununtu10:30
BeTaall right10:30
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Choubakait doesn't?10:30
danbajdizzle: normally, I think, one uses a music, and a separate video player...some people prefer this or that one, but enabling all repositories, and searching synaptic for player under name and description may give you a list of all of them. You can try and decide for yourself.10:30
Choubakaubermonzie: why?10:30
ubermonziein Debian Sarge, totem works like a gem10:30
yahalomChoubaka, sorry that wasnt all of it: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/29254510:30
Burgundaviajeff25, ubermonzie there is known problem with totem-gstreamer and ATI drivers10:30
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yahalomChoubaka, go to the next one10:30
espiemplease. anybody knows how to replace default splash screen in ubuntu?10:30
Choubakayahalom: oh, looks cool10:30
Burgundaviajeff25, ubermonzie install totem-xine, works like a charm10:30
Choubakait's fine.10:30
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thoreauputicBeTa: install totem-xine10:30
BeTathat's sad to know that all multimedia files are launched w/ totem !! and that totem crash everytime10:30
dhimass_sbyhallo , i mean to clone my harddisk with ubuntu inside10:30
BeTaall right10:30
yahalomChoubaka, so nothing there huh?10:30
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ubermonziewill try it Burgundavia, thanks10:31
BeTathx thoreauputic10:31
poofyhairhi10:31
joan_algun espaol??10:31
Choubakayahalom: yes, it's fine :p10:31
yahalomChoubaka, so what can i do?10:31
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jeff25Burgundavia: I compile xine from cvs10:31
yahalomChoubaka, anyway of totally cleaning gnome and reinstalling it? kde and xfce work great, so i dont get it10:31
danbaespiem: http://art.gnome.org/faq.php#q8 does know that10:31
giggseyw00t, got my Rammstein album working at last ;P10:31
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danba!es10:31
Choubakayahalom: I guess it's a gnome problem then :|10:32
espiemthanks danba10:32
ChoubakaI use XFCE4. :/10:32
yahalomChoubaka, how do i remove gnome and reinstall it?10:32
Choubakahmm.10:32
dmoyneplease do you have this file in your system "/etc/cups/cupsd.conf" I do not !10:32
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ChoubakaI don't remember all the packages.10:32
yahalomChoubaka, me too, my wife likes gnome though10:32
danbanice..., joan_, Para los usuarios debian de habla hispa?a que requieren la ayuda, ensamble por favor el canal del #ubuntu-es10:32
nernwe i had to reinstall10:32
yahalomChoubaka, ok man thanx :) hey isnt cdrom1 meant to show up in xffm now?10:33
danbaok, first time using that one...10:33
jdizzlethere a program that will run streaming video for hoary like Windows media10:33
yahalomChoubaka, i only have cdrom0 showing up in xffm10:33
Choubakayou probably don't have cdrom1 in /etc/fstab10:33
thoreauputicdmoyne: yes, i have it (the file)10:33
Choubakaedit the file10:33
Choubakajust copy the /dev/cdrom entry and rename the device file10:33
dmoynethoreauputic, which package is it part of ?10:34
selavaghwould it be good to do a reinstall of Ubuntu, as i found out it is quite fast, so to install LVM?10:34
thoreauputicdmoyne: I assume it comes with cups10:34
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thoreauputicdmoyne: hang on a sec10:34
dmoynethoreauputic, thanks10:34
yahalomChoubaka, udf,iso9660 ro,user,noatio  this is for a cdwriter, what is for a plain one?10:34
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Choubakayahalom: probably the same.10:35
Fator_Deejdizzle: mplayer, xine, vlc and others10:35
yahalomChoubaka, ok thanx man10:35
thoreauputicdmoyne: peter@prospero:~$ dpkg -S /etc/cups/cupsd.conf10:35
thoreauputiccupsys: /etc/cups/cupsd.conf10:35
Choubakapossibly no udf10:35
nernSO10:35
Choubakabut I don't really know :)10:35
thoreauputicdmoyne: so, cupsys10:35
Echelon-HChoubaka, Don;t you need to spell it Chewbacca?10:35
ChoubakaEchelon-H: no.10:35
nernwhenever Breezy gets released will it be possible to simply edit sources.list and dist-upgrade? I mean, did that work with Warty to Hoary?10:35
ChoubakaMy nick isn't even pronounced like that.10:35
Choubaka:D10:36
jeff25blackbox deb is broken on main10:36
Echelon-HChoubaka, k :P10:36
danbajdizzle: unfortunately, it does not always work, this is a walkthrough for setting up MPlayer for that, http://ubuntuguide.org/#mplayer .10:36
ChoubakaI always get the chewbacca jokes. :(10:36
danbajdizzle: do you have a good sources.list file?10:36
Fator_Deenern: it worked with hoary, and I think it will work with breezy too10:36
dmoynethoreauputic, I have cupsys installed though and not this file10:36
nernFator_Dee: good, that means that this is officially the greatest distro ever :)10:37
Fator_Deenern: yep :-)10:37
japoederis there a reason why someone would not be able to access the backports repository?10:37
thoreauputicdmoyne: well, that's odd10:37
danbajdizzle: also, that is provided you use a 386 kernel, to find out which one you are using, type in uname -r in a terminal10:37
nernjapoeder: the ubuntu forums one?10:37
japoederyeah10:37
thoreauputicdmoyne: you aren't using breezy, are you?10:37
jdizzledanba: i know which version, and its a 38610:38
danbanern, always remove all but main repositories before upgrading a version, I believe.10:38
dmoyne thoreauputic, what do you mean by "breazy" ?10:38
dhimass_sbyhow to clone my harddisk with ubuntu inside10:38
Choubakadhimass_sby: hm10:38
thoreauputicdmoyne: what does ` cat /etc/issue` return on your machine?10:38
Choubakadhimass_sby: do you want to clone it into a file?10:38
danbagood, then follow that, if you have good sources.list(/etc/apt/sources.list) this is a good one : www.mts.net/~danb/sources.list ...10:38
Choubakaor to another hd?10:38
dhimass_sbyto onother10:39
dhimass_sbyto another10:39
dhimass_sbydisk10:39
Choubakaok, that's more difficult.10:39
dmoyne thoreauputic : "Hoary Hedgehog" \n \l10:39
japoederI get this message when I try to upload it http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports/dists/hoary-extras/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 403 Forbidden10:39
thoreauputicdmoyne: OK10:39
Choubakadhimass_sby: in fact, I don't know how to do it :/10:39
thoreauputicdmoyne: breezy is the development version10:39
ChoubakaI guess you need cpio or something10:39
nernjapoeder - here are the repos to use if you want the backports; like i do ;)10:39
dhimass_sbyok10:39
nernjapoeder - http://pastebin.ca/1300910:40
dmoyne thoreauputic, what can I do to reset all this ?10:40
dhimass_sbythanx10:40
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thoreauputicdmoyne: Hoary is the current stable release: try running ` sudo apt-get install --reinstall cupsys`10:40
japoederthanks10:40
danbajapoeder: nern, do not use backports like that, use them as a repository that is always commented out, except when you are looking for a specific program, am I right here?10:41
thoreauputicdmoyne: or ` sudo dpkg-reconfigure cupsys` if that doesn't help10:41
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dmoyne thoreauputic, ok I do and keep you posted !10:41
thoreauputicdanba: better still, don't use backports at all10:41
my_hazhow do i find the use of bandwidth using the command line10:41
my_hazlink the bandwidth thing in top right of gnome window manager10:42
my_hazand how do i do an update of apts using the command line, like the read button on top in right of gnome10:42
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Shuflahi :D10:42
danbawell, thoreauputic not sure about that... maybe they have a reason, perhaps, maybe better than some other options, although, yeah, I mean, I have not had them in there since I screwe up my first Hoary upgrade : )10:42
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iamnowhello10:43
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thoreauputicdanba: i think th ebackports maintainers are on crack, frankly10:43
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iamnowdoes the nautilus cd burner work with wav file to cd audio?10:43
danbaok, I am gonna believe you cause you know more.10:43
Shuflafunny. i've got amd64 with 64bit hoary. and while trying to print with oowriter there's message in console: sh: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib32/libpangohack.so.0.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory10:43
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Shuflaand my system won't print :(10:43
my_hazShufla: do you have that so file?10:44
my_hazShufla: you might have a later/newer version10:44
thoreauputiciamnow: no, install gnomebaker10:44
Shuflamy_haz: no. i know where it is. but my system is 32bit...10:44
dmoyne thoreauputic, after doing all these commands successfully I stil do not get "cupsd.conf" in /etc/cups" ! ; I try to install printers10:44
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iamnowthoreauputic: ok thanks10:44
my_hazShufla: so how about a ln10:44
thoreauputicdmoyne: very weird10:44
Shuflamy_haz: not ubuntu-friendly. well. i've got package with that file (ia32-libs-gtk), but that file do not exist :D10:45
dmoyne thoreauputic, it does not work !10:45
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Shuflaok. i'll just reinstall it10:46
my_hazya do that10:46
thoreauputicdmoyne: I can maybe paste a copy of mine for you on pastebin.ubuntu.com (no guarantees that will work for you -)10:46
jeff25rot-tail owns10:46
Shuflabut... it has disappered. that's not nice :/10:47
dmoyne thoreauputic, with synaptic I have both Ubuntu and Debian repositries install ; maybe I can try to paste this file first !10:47
danbamy_haz: sudo aptitude upgrade for command line red applet in gnome-panel .10:47
thoreauputicdmoyne: oh dear - you should *not* do that10:47
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thoreauputicdmoyne: you have conflicts because your sources are mixed10:47
dmoyne thoreauputic, then what can I do to clean !10:48
thoreauputicdmoyne: do *not* use debian sources with ubuntu : it's a recipe for disaster10:48
dmoyne thoreauputic, yes but at the very beginning it was the only way to get KDE10:48
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thoreauputicdmoyne: clean up your /etc/apt/sources.list and do an apt-get update && apt-get dist upgrade, and pray a lot10:49
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thoreauputicget rid of those debian sources10:49
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danbamy_haz: as for bandwidth, http://pastebin.com/292551 not sure if that is what you want, though.10:49
Shuflaooooooops! that file exist /usr/lib32/libpangohack.so.0.0, but oowriter says: sh: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib32/libpangohack.so.0.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory10:49
Shuflai run ldconfig...10:50
mrzacI installed the xorg-driver-fglrx for my ati card but it doesn't work. how do I make it work?10:50
dmoyne thoreauputic, I typically use synaptic ; I will go to this graphical app and do it and report afterrwards ; thanks10:50
thoreauputicdmoyne: good luck10:50
Shufla10:51
syntaxmanI'm hunting around on the documentation web site, and don't see anything about source.list entries10:51
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danbabtw, does mttscorefonts get rid of the sign I am seeing instead of Shufla's last message?10:52
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thoreauputicsyntaxman: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto10:53
Shufladanba: it was leftalt+control+r with accitentaly enter :D10:53
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Fikranndanba, no, since it wasn't UTF-8 character.10:53
danbayeah, I have those installed anyhow, it turns out.10:54
dmoyne thoreauputic, editing my  /etc/apt/sources.list shows only thes 2 lines :10:54
prasysbbl10:54
dmoynedeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-security main restricted universe multiverse10:54
dmoynedeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted universe multiverse10:54
syntaxmanthoreauputic: thank you.10:55
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thoreauputicdmoyne: you only have main and security there10:55
dmoyne thoreauputic, what do I need ?10:56
thoreauputicdmoyne: read the url I posted for syntaxman10:56
danbawell, he has universe, multiverse as well, and restricted:)10:56
thoreauputichttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto10:56
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Shuflafck. i'm so lagged :(10:56
thoreauputicdanba: no, only for security10:57
thoreauputichoary-security main restricted universe multiverse10:57
Seveasthoreauputic, ehm, read please :)10:57
thoreauputicoops10:57
Seveasthe line below :)10:57
thoreauputicsorry my bad10:57
Seveas;)10:57
danbathats cool, we'll lynch you after.10:57
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Seveashehe10:57
dmoyne thoreauputic, how do I access this URL for syntaxman10:57
thoreauputic:)10:57
bananahow can i start fx in safe mode?10:58
thoreauputicdmoyne: I was wrong- your sources look OK10:58
bananadoes anybody get a bloated context menu (the menu you get when you click on your secondary mouse button) in Fx?10:58
mrzacI installed the xorg-driver-fglrx for my ati card but it doesn't work. how do I make it work?10:58
palmstromHello, I have some problem with apt. I installed package totem-xine (it removed totem-gstreamer). Package totem depends on totem-gstreamer or totem-xine. Automatic update on startup wants install totem-gstreamer and remove totem-xine. How can I tell apt to not install totem-gstreamer at all?10:58
Seveasmrzac: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto10:58
bananaBloated means, for example, getting options for hyperlinks even when you haven't 2ndary-button-clicked on a hyperlink.10:59
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danbathoreauputic: no, they dont really, altho, they kinda do, try the ones here, I mean,...http://www.mts.net/~danb/sources.list11:00
danbabanana: sorry for being dumb, what is fx?11:00
dmoyne thoreauputic, so then it is relly odd as everybody has this file "cupsd.conf" in /etc/cups" ! !11:00
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JaneWhttp://code.google.com/summerofcode.html11:00
thoreauputicdmoyne: it is, very odd11:00
bananadanba, firefox. that's what the makers suggest as the nickname.11:01
thoreauputicdmoyne: you could try purging cupsys and reinstalling it I guess11:01
dmoyne thoreauputic, how you do this with apt commands !11:01
danbabanana: thank you.11:01
SeveasJaneW, wow!11:01
thoreauputicdmoyne: sudo apt-get remove --purge cupsys && sudo apt-get install cupsys11:02
SeveasJaneW, that's a great initiative :)11:02
mrzacseveas: thanks11:02
danbayeah, not bad, I must say I wil definitely consider applying.11:02
JaneWSeveas: :)11:02
bananahow do i start firefox in safe mode?11:03
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InitMassis scsi enabled by default in hoary?11:03
Seveasbanana, safe mode..?11:03
danbamozilla-firefox -safe-mode11:03
danbaalso see: man mozilla-firefox11:04
dmoyne thoreauputic, ah this error message : when deleting cupsys, directory /etc/cups was not empty then it was not deleted !11:04
danbaor see also, rather.:)11:04
bananaSeveas, yes, coz i'm getting an un-contextualized "context menu" when i "right-click" in Firefox. For example, I'm getting the option to "Save Link As..." even though I've not clicked on a link.11:04
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thoreauputicdmoyne: that's normal - it just means it hasn't delete the directory - the contents should be deleted11:05
gandalf__i accidentally froze xmms, anyone know how to kill it?11:05
danbathoreauputic: again I disagree.11:05
Choubakagandalf__: killall xmms11:05
danbawhat command did you use dmoyne?11:05
thoreauputicdanba: OK - I need more coffee11:05
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dmoyne thoreauputic, what you provided : inside now just11:06
danbano, no, you are good, just wanted to correct you on that single point...11:06
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gandalf__thanks choubaka11:06
danbabanana: I have posted the safe mode syntax, did you get that?11:07
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bananadanba, in flood channel?11:07
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bananadanba, please do so again, as i've just joined that channel.11:07
danbaright above your question to seveas11:07
danbaor right under your question about it.11:08
dmoynethoreauputic, apparently after removinf most of the content of "/etc/cups" (just printer.conf remaining, nothing was reinstalled11:08
flankkum.. i just installed ubuntu.. it never requested me to set a root password, and it is now prompting me to enter one to su, wtf?11:08
NicPdont use su flankk11:08
NicPuse sudo11:08
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NicProot isnt enable by default11:08
NicPenabled11:08
flankkNicP, but i need to run a program that requires feedback..11:08
danbasudo command11:08
NicPsudo program11:09
bananadanba, found it, thanks!11:09
thoreauputicdmoyne: well, i don't know - somehow you've broken cups, but how I can't figure out11:09
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danbawelcome... check out that it is not a feature, though, look in your extensions, maybe an extension that behaves like taht.11:09
flankkNicP, the program i am trying to run su requires feedback, how can i do that with sudo?11:10
hannes_sudo su11:10
hannes_:P11:10
NicPtype sudo then the program11:10
dmoyne thoreauputic, I thought that some apt commands were designed to bring coherency back !11:10
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NicPits a terminal program yes?11:10
flankkNicP, yes11:10
NicPso type sudo command11:11
NicPwhere command is the programs name11:11
thoreauputicdmoyne: you could try ` sudo apt-get -f install ` without any packages - sometimes that helps11:11
flankkNicP, it doesn't prompt for feedback, it just runs the program....11:11
far0khow is ubunyus wireless network support out of the box?11:11
far0kubuntu*11:11
NicPwhat program?11:11
NicPit should work the same as if you had used su11:11
Seveasfar0k, fairly good if you do not use WPA or 802.1x11:11
danbathoreauputic: can he update?11:12
thoreauputicdmoyne: make sure you do ` sudo apt-get update` first11:12
Fikrannfar0k, what chipset?11:12
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dmoyne thoreauputic, apparently all now is back after using your last command ; I am triny now to install a printer !11:12
thoreauputicdanba: heh - just thought of the same thing as you - again11:12
thoreauputicah, good11:13
flankkNicP, works as user, when i sudo, it drops me at prompt..11:13
danbayeah: ) I was jus thinking the same thing.11:13
NicPflankk, what kind of feedback do you mean?11:13
far0kits a dlink something or other its actually on my m8s comp or i would check11:13
flankkNicP, i am expecting a prompt for input like it does when i run it as user..11:13
danbaNicP: I guess its time for http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo ?11:13
far0kjust other distros like suse have detected it but then just not work11:13
flankkdanba, tx11:14
NicPflankk, if its not a terminal program you will have to use gksudo11:14
Seveasfar0k, you might need to use ndiswrapper11:14
flankkNicP, it is a terminal program.11:14
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NicPi dunno why it wouldnt work then11:14
NicPsudo su ;)11:14
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thoreauputicdmoyne: so you now have cupsd.conf ?11:15
flankkNicP, that is messed up.11:15
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NicPwhat program is it?11:15
flankkNicP, works though..11:15
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flankkNicP, mb it checks for a login shell? i have no clue, it works as sudo su11:16
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zoop81Hi, anyone know anything about the ALSA breakage in breezy?11:16
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danbazoop81: I have heard of it, I dont think anyone here will help you cause of the /topic11:17
danbawel, cause of the reason that is in the topic, or some bigger picture a newbie like me cant get(or does not feel like explaining at this late hour)...11:18
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Fikrannzoop81, I didn't have any problems with alsa in breezy .. maybe because I wire alsa sound modules into kernel.11:18
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zoop81Fikrann: Yeah well. It's most probably a problem with the ubuntu kernel, so if you're building your own...11:19
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jdizzlewhat dvd player does every1 use for hoary11:21
NicPi use totem and vlc11:21
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Fikrannzoop81, that's the first thing I'm doing for every linux install I set up.11:22
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NicPworks fine for me11:23
zaydanahow do i remove certain programs from the "open with" list for a .cpp file, and how do i set the default program?11:23
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zoop81Fikrann: I used to do that too but stopped a year or so ago...11:24
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nernWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEe11:25
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ogi_Anybody else who has got problems with the file transfer speeds in gaim?11:25
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Fikrannzoop81, I see that as one of more important steps to configure the system to hardware .. besides, I tend to have a lot 'unstandard' hardware around.11:26
nullixthoreauputic, I am in bettter shapes ecept that I have now a user/password problem to access CUPS server how can I set new ones ?11:26
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thoreauputicnullix: I don't understand the question, sorry - are you trying to use the wen interface to cups in a browser? If so, it's disabled by default in Ubuntu11:27
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thoreauputic*s/wen/web11:28
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nullixthoreauputic, yes with port 631 !11:28
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thoreauputicnullix: use the graphical tool in gnome: it's pretty easy and uses your normal password11:29
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BAfHis there any timeplan, when the g++ and dbus migration of breezy will be fixed?11:29
nullix thoreauputic, what is its name ?11:29
thoreauputicnullix: umm - I'm in fluxbox at the moment - hang on a tic11:29
FikrannBAfH, there is none.11:29
BAfHFikrann: non timeplan or non migration? :-)11:30
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thoreauputicnullix: gnome-cups-manager I think11:30
FikrannBAfH, no timeplan. It all happens when package maintainers feel it's the right thing to do.11:31
thoreauputicnullix: yup that looks like the one11:31
BAfHFikrann: i thought so ;)11:31
jsgotangcoJaneW, hey11:31
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zaydanacan somebody tell me how do remove certain programs from the "open with" list for a .cpp file in nautilus, and how do i set the default program?11:32
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FikrannBAfH, out of curiosity, do you have Openoffice installed?11:32
jack664614894ubuntu is good11:32
jack664614894linux11:32
nullix thoreauputic, yes apparently I can in supervisor mode add printers ; thanks I will try with this and let you breeze !11:32
jack664614894ubuntu is 'good'11:33
jack664614894ubuntu is a ikan kampung11:33
jack664614894hahhaa11:33
Fikrannzaydana, I believe I've seen that in Nautilus help file, but I can't recall how it was done.11:33
jack664614894ubuntu is a selfish11:33
jack664614894ubuntu likes a shit11:34
Fator_Deezaydana: right click on file -> properties -> open with ? IIRC11:34
Choubakahmm.11:34
thoreauputicjack664614894: either say something useful or go away, please11:34
jack664614894hahahahahhaqhaha11:35
jack664614894u first11:35
jack664614894i am the crazy people11:35
jack664614894u11:35
jack664614894die11:35
jack664614894in my hand11:35
thoreauputic!ops11:35
ubotuMeet your friendly #osia operators: cafuego11:35
jack664614894and u will eat my smelly shit11:35
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jack664614894hahahaa11:35
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Fator_Deearen't we a mature one :-<11:35
ChoubakaI wish we wouldn't get retards like him here.11:35
kestasmy first thing with gimp-> http://img130.echo.cx/my.php?image=phpdiplomacy8vm.png11:35
Fikrannzaydana, listen to Fator_Dee11:36
kestaspretty slick eh?11:36
ubuntufansubuntu is a dog'shit11:36
zaydanaheh11:36
ubuntufansit likes the shit11:36
ubuntufanshahahahahaha11:36
ChoubakaBut I guess some people don't even have the intelligence of an amoeba :)11:36
Fator_Deebob2?11:36
ubuntufansbob 2 had die11:36
ubuntufansi kill him11:36
Fikrannkestas, looks like phpBB default theme };>11:36
zaydanaFator_Dee ... does that mean you know about file handling in nautilus or was fikrann just stating the obvious?11:36
ubuntufansi am the famous killer11:36
ubuntufanshahahahahahahaha11:37
zaydanaanybody got ops in here? :-/11:37
kestasFikrann: ahh yes.. what a coincidence ;p11:37
thoreauputiccoming soon ...11:37
Choubakaubuntufans: haa haa haa. You're unfunny.11:37
ubuntufansu all is stupid as a donkey11:37
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Choubakaexcellent. :D11:37
thoreauputicthanks bob211:37
zaydanahooray.11:37
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Choubakaback for more, eh.11:37
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Seveaszaydana, no, it's spelt hoary :)11:37
Fator_Deezaydana: I mentioned the way to file handling above, but I'm not exactly sure about the names11:37
zaydanao i see11:38
zaydanasrry11:38
zaydanaseveas... thats almost a joke my maths teacher would make :p11:38
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Fator_Deezaydana: it's been a while since I used nautilus, but right click on the file and properties, you should find it there11:38
zaydanak thanks11:38
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BAfHFikrann: yes11:38
BAfHFikrann: 1.1.3 und 1.9.79.211:39
ChoubakaHahaha. he queried me. :D11:39
zaydanayup that worked thanks fator11:39
Fator_Deezaydana: no prob11:39
ChoubakaI hope he stays there spewing crap to /dev/null11:39
FikrannBAfH, on Breezy?11:39
BAfHyes11:40
UbuntuPenguinHello all, i have problem with iptables port redirecting in Ubuntu. Any saviour for my?11:40
FikrannBAfH, can you do a favour for me?11:40
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Fator_DeeUbuntuPenguin: firestarter is a good front end to iptables, maybe you could use that?11:40
BAfHFikrann: maybe ;)11:40
bob219:39:26     ubuntufans | i will kill you11:40
Choubakabob2: :D11:40
Fator_Deebob2: ooh, you must be scared now :-<11:40
ChoubakaHe queried me and saluted himself, too.11:40
zaydanaanother question... is there a way to make an app in the menu run as root by default11:40
zaydana?11:40
Choubakahe said, "hi idiot"11:41
cyphaselol11:41
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UbuntuPenguinFator_Dee: But i require pure iptables soulution. ;-((11:41
Seveaszaydana, edit the .desktop file and make sure it runs gksudo $NAME_OF_APP11:41
Fator_Deezaydana: put a gksudo in front of the command, then it'll query you for a password11:41
zaydanaah k11:41
HajuuWhat package do I need to apt-get to be able to make and configure shit?11:41
zaydanathanks11:41
zaydana.desktop file?11:41
SeveasHajuu, a toilet?11:41
FikrannBAfH, Can you open up OO and click on any menu item?11:41
BAfHFikrann: what should i do?11:41
ChoubakaUbuntuPenguin: Firestarter just generates an iptables file.11:41
Choubakascript, even11:41
SeveasHajuu, try build-essential :)11:41
BAfHFikrann: wait ... have to login with x-forward ;)11:42
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BAfHFikrann: oo1 or oo2?11:42
UbuntuPenguinChoubaka: ;-((((((11:42
FikrannUbuntuPenguin, try Shoreline Firewall?11:42
ChoubakaWhat's with the face? :p11:42
bob2Fator_Dee: thanks for notifying me11:42
zaydanawhere will i find this .desktop file?11:42
bob2i fI'm not around, I'm more likely to appear if my nick hilighting goes off11:42
FikrannBAfH, I'm just curious if it'll crash for you as well.11:42
Fator_Deebob2: I guessed you would handle the problem :-)11:43
UbuntuPenguinFikrann: I require only one command, but it not work. Only one iptables definition. ;-(((11:43
FikrannBAfH, and both versions are suspectible11:43
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Hajuu_sorry bout that11:43
Hajuu_disconnected11:43
Seveaszaydana, in /usr/share/applications11:43
Hajuu_so?11:43
bananabob2, how long does a ban's effect last?11:43
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zaydanacoolios11:44
SeveasHajuu, try build-essential :)11:44
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Hajuu_thanks11:44
FikrannUbuntuPenguin, I haven't used raw iptables in ages, sorry.11:44
bob2banana: until someone removes it11:44
UbuntuPenguinFikrann: :((11:44
bananabob2, does anybody in this chatroom have the power to remove it? or only the room manager?11:44
bob2banana: only channel operators can add and remove bans11:45
bananabob2, how did you get to become an operator?11:45
bob2banana: by spending entirely too much time here11:45
bananaSo you mean another operator gave you the title?11:46
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bob2yes11:46
Hajuu_I have a cd with some burned files, which I added the hidden property to in windows before I burned them.. how can I see these files in linux, and/or remove this property?11:46
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bob2Hajuu_: does 'ls -a' show them?11:47
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thoreauputicbob2: is it Ok to /msg you directly if we need ops?11:47
bob2thoreauputic: of course11:47
thoreauputicOK thanks11:47
FikrannHajuu_, you rarely can remove something from CD-R11:47
bob2thoreauputic: but if you /msg me, you're going to be off the end of my screen, mentioning my nick in here will get my attention more quickly11:47
thoreauputicbob2: OK fine - will do11:48
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Hajuu_bob2:  nah ls -a doesnt show them11:48
UbuntuPenguinHere is nobody who use pure iptables?11:48
Hajuu_Fikrann:  I didnt mean while they were on the cd heh11:48
OlsenUbuntuPenguin: i used a lot11:48
OlsenUbuntuPenguin: why11:48
BAfHhmmm11:49
BAfHFikrann: have to run setup first ;)11:49
FikrannBAfH, Ouch... Sorry11:49
BAfHhmmm11:49
bananabob2, can that ubuntufan guy come back by changing his ip address? can one change ip addresses?11:50
BAfHthe output couldn forwarded trough ssh it seems11:50
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bob2banana: yes11:50
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miklbanana: It's not that easy to change IP-adress11:50
bob2banana: and it depends.  if you're on dialup internet, it probably changes everytime you dial.11:50
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nernhey hey hey11:50
bob2banana: if you're on dsl/cable, it will change less often, in general11:50
Fator_Deemikl: actually it depends11:50
Hajuu_ok now how do I build a makefile?11:50
Fator_Deemikl: for me it's all to easy to change it11:50
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tiglionabbithttp://mpt.net.nz/archive/2005/04/11/ubuntu  <-- Isn't this guy a moron?11:51
miklFator_Dee: oh, in that case .. :)11:51
bob2tiglionabbit: no11:51
bob2tiglionabbit: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct11:51
Fator_Deemikl: but that doesn't mean that I'm going to go havoc in here :-p11:51
tiglionabbitthe vast majority of his gripes are wrong and pointless11:51
BAfHFikrann: i'm to lame to use it over ssh-forward11:51
bob2Hajuu_: in general or for a partocular bit of software?11:51
bob2tiglionabbit: er, that would be entirely subjective11:51
Hajuu_bob2: for a game called lincity heh11:52
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FikrannBAfH, Owie11:52
thoreauputictiglionabbit: I think you misunderstand his motives11:52
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mikltiglionabbit: Well, he has his opinion, and we although our opinions are different, his are not necessarily idiotic11:52
tiglionabbitk11:52
bob2tiglionabbit: he was pointing things out so they can be fixed, not ripping on ubuntu.  note he works for the company producing ubuntu.11:52
tiglionabbitoh11:53
bob2tiglionabbit: also, two of the gnome founders cite the list as a useful list of things to fix.11:53
tiglionabbitbut some things he gripes about are easily fixable with configuration.  Especially the section on Gaim11:53
Hajuu_anyone?11:53
bob2tiglionabbit: right, but sane defaults is an important thing in itself11:53
Hajuu_heh11:53
bob2Hajuu_: lincity is in ubuntu...11:53
thoreauputictiglionabbit: read the disclaimer at the bottom of the piece :)11:54
tiglionabbityeah I know11:54
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gandalf__i downloaded cedega, but don't have permission to extract it to my hard drive...how do i add it?11:54
yahalomwhere does ubuntu store all my icons?11:54
Hajuu_bob2: Well my install didn't come with it.11:54
bananatiglionabbit, his boss, the boss who provided him with the computer to test ubuntu, is none other than Mark Shuttleworth, the founder of Ubuntu. The critic is writing to make Ubuntu better. I appreciate his sharp eyes.11:54
tiglionabbitdo you know what could have caused #27 for him?  I don't understand that one11:54
Fator_Deetiglionabbit: even if there are some points that are kind of... pointless, there a still lot's of things to be corrected11:54
bob2Hajuu_: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto11:54
mischahi everyone11:54
bob2Hajuu_: it's in the universe repository11:54
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bob2tiglionabbit: gnome-session sometimes goes nuts and stops updating things (has happened to me)11:55
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ToutPT|ppc|fr/away go o restoU11:55
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bob2tiglionabbit: mpt is canonical's usability dude, fwiw11:55
tiglionabbitah, alright11:56
Hajuu_oh well there it is11:56
tiglionabbitI agree with him on the CD issues though.11:56
Hajuu_haha11:56
Hajuu_well anyway11:56
gandalf__i downloaded cedega, but don't have permission to extract it to my hard drive...how do i add it? please11:56
Hajuu_how does one configure and build a program?11:56
Hajuu_just for future knowledge11:56
SeveasHajuu, ./configure && make && sudo checkinstall11:56
tiglionabbitHajuu: get the program, read the README11:56
Hajuu_as ive been needing to do it for a few pieces of software11:56
UbuntuPenguinPlease help! Is here any saviour for my, for help with iptables port redirecting? Please.11:56
mischaquestion: how can i disable the startup sound when i enter gnome. i already disabled System->Preferences->Sound-> Sound events-> Logon and Logoff, but that does not help.11:57
bob2UbuntuPenguin: have you asked your question yet?11:57
thoreauputicHajuu: such as?11:57
bananacan sombody help me with a problem i have with firefox, please, it's rather technical, but i could'nt get any help from the firefox irc room.11:57
SeveasUbuntuPenguin, local redirect?11:57
tiglionabbitI like that Ubuntu is brown though.11:57
bob2banana: just ask...11:57
Hajuu_thoreauputic:  some free 3d games like VDrag11:57
UbuntuPenguinSeveas: On local network, from one server torougth gate to Internet.11:57
bananathanks, bob2. i didn't want to change the subject from ubuntu to Fx, you see.11:57
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thoreauputictiglionabbit: I think that was intended as a joke:) It's easily changed anyway11:57
bananaThe question is: how do i apply a patch?11:58
bob2banana: why do you want to apply a patch?11:58
Hajuu_I dont mind the brown11:58
tiglionabbitoh, and I'm sort of scared about the project of making a splashscreen for the terminal loading.  Many linux users like getting the status menus.  And sometimes a process fails or takes too long, and needs to be skipped (control-C).  If they implement a splashscreen, please oh please add a SKIP button!11:58
bananaThe patch is on this webpage: http://bugzilla.mozdev.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10350. bob2, i want to apply a patch to fix up a problem i'm having with an extension (greasemonkey)11:58
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tiglionabbitoh I said so many things wrong in that.  Status lines..  the [OK]  things11:59
thoreauputictiglionabbit: I expect that will be "geek option button " ;-)11:59
tiglionabbitand s/terminal menu/startup process11:59
tiglionabbit  /11:59
Seveastiglionabbit, that is the first thing that will be implemented in a splash screen :)11:59
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tiglionabbitgood11:59
thoreauputictiglionabbit: "click here for the full geek boot-up experience " ;D11:59
tiglionabbitlol12:00
BAfHFikrann: okay .. the problem with the forwrd is fixed ... now i'm waiting for starting oo12:00
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tiglionabbitsay, on the topic of that, how do I fix #21 ?12:00
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Hajuu_Ahh gotta love Bali CD's.. A random assortment of live/bootleg/album songs.. then concluded with the theme from mission impossible..12:01
Hajuu_And it was a UT album12:01
Hajuu_err12:01
Hajuu_U212:01
tiglionabbitUnreal 2rnament12:01
Hajuu_heh12:01
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mischaquestion: how can i disable the startup sound when i enter gnome. i already disabled System->Preferences->Sound-> Sound events-> Logon and Logoff, but that does not help.12:02
thoreauputictiglionabbit: ctrl+c to skip time server check12:02
tiglionabbit*repeats himself*  how do I fix #21: the network interfaces thing taking forever?12:02
tiglionabbitI just hit control-C every time12:02
thoreauputictiglionabbit: yup12:02
liabletiglionabbit: comment out the atuo line in interfaces12:02
thoreauputictiglionabbit: you could disable the start up scripts for it12:03
liableauto12:03
tiglionabbitliable: in interfaces?12:03
liable/etc/network/interfaces12:03
liabletiglionabbit: my bad, time thing?12:03
bob2banana: how much do you care? rebuilding it is a rather large undertaking.12:03
tiglionabbit*googles* some thread says  `sudo update-rc.d -f networking remove`12:04
bananayou mean i just can't somehow edit a file and add the code into it, bob2?12:04
liabletiglionabbit: no dont do that12:04
bananaor put that patch file in some directory, bob2?12:04
TMzZLofresh install Ubuntu 5.04, when logging to X computer stops responding after 2seconds. tryed new version of kernel problem the same12:04
TMzZLocan anyone help me?12:05
tiglionabbitliable: well darn, guess I can't trust the first result in google.  Good thing I asked here!12:05
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Hajuu_uhh.. I hate it when apt-get doesnt create aliases for stuff and doesnt tell me where it installs it12:05
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Hajuu_how can I find out where its installed?12:05
ubuntuloxai jus wisi12:05
TMzZLo;] 12:05
thoreauputicHajuu: dpkg -L | grep bin12:06
tiglionabbitHajuu_: I am interested in that too12:06
thoreauputicHajuu: will find the executable - actually dpkg -L <package> | grep bin12:06
Hajuu_thought so12:06
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tiglionabbitoh, that's very nice12:07
tiglionabbitgood to know12:07
Fator_DeeTMzZLo: I had a similar problem a week ago and the reason was that 2 of my RAM sticks were borked12:07
bob2banana: run this: find ~/.mozilla/firefox -name "browser.xul"12:07
TMzZLoPC ATI Radeon X600, Samsung SATA SP1213c, P4 LGA 1mb/800, 256ddr ,MB Gigabyte GA-8I915P Duo12:07
TMzZLoi have onli one ram stick12:07
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bananabob2, okay, i ran it.12:08
tiglionabbitso the line I want to comment out in interfaces is "auto lo" ?  Boy does this file have a lot of whitespace12:08
Fator_DeeTMzZLo: I'm not saying that the problem is in your RAM, but it *could* be12:08
bob2banana: what did it print?12:08
TMzZLobut in console my computer works fine12:08
bananait printed a directory and the file browser.xul.12:08
tiglionabbitor do I want to comment out "auto eth1" and "auto eth0" as well?12:08
Fator_DeeTMzZLo: so only your X doesn't work?12:08
TMzZLoi think problem might be in Video card12:08
bananashould i open that file with a text editor or something, bob2?12:08
TMzZLoyes12:08
bob2banana: yes, I know12:08
bob2banana: no12:08
bob2banana: cd to the dir it is in12:09
liabletiglionabbit: no, what are you actually trying to stop?12:09
Fator_DeeTMzZLo: try to do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"12:09
bananabob2, done12:09
TMzZLoonly X and then it starts everithing fine but when i enter login name and password computer stops responding after 2second12:09
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Fator_DeeTMzZLo: and be sure that the refresh rates and resolutions are so that the monitor can handle them12:09
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tiglionabbitwhen I am starting up ubuntu, it pauses for a while on "Configuring Network Interfaces..." as mentioned in problem #21 in that dude's list of gripes12:09
TMzZLoi have cheked them12:09
TMzZLoFator_Dee resolution is fine12:10
TMzZLoand refresh12:10
Fator_DeeTMzZLo: have you looked in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?12:10
tiglionabbitI always make it skip this step.  I'm asking how to disable it12:10
TMzZLoone minute12:10
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phendmorning all12:10
phendcan anybody recommend a good book on postgres, or a good online tutorial?12:11
bob2banana: run: patch -p1 < /path/to/where/you/downloaded/the/file.patch12:11
tiglionabbitbtw, network interfaces are incredibly slow, even in the network-admin gui.  Changing profile takes forever, and the program waits a long time and then prints an error to console when I hit OK.  What's up with this?12:11
bob2banana: which is the patch from the bts12:11
liabletiglionabbit: is it looking for a dhcp and timing out?12:11
bob2tiglionabbit: fix /etc/network/interfaces12:11
bananawhat's bts,bob2?12:11
tiglionabbitbob2: fix how?12:11
bob2tiglionabbit: if an interface shouldn't try to come up on boot, don't configure it to12:11
TMzZLoFator_Dee my computer stop responding at all i cant jump to another tty and i think its imposible to create error log to se what has happend12:11
bob2banana: bugzilla.12:11
bob2tiglionabbit: remove the "auto eth0" line or whatever it is12:12
tiglionabbitTMzZLo: I didn't configure anything to do this.  What do you mean?12:12
bananabob2, is it easiest if i put the file in the same directory?12:12
tiglionabbitokay12:12
bob2banana: doesn't matter12:12
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tiglionabbitwhat do the iface lines do?  "iface eth0 inet dhcp"12:12
tiglionabbitand "auto lo"12:13
Fator_DeeTMzZLo: well, you should check the log anyway, but after that, I don't have advices on what to do, sorry :-\12:13
liabletiglionabbit: just comment out the auto line above it12:13
bob2tiglionabbit: man 5 interfaces12:13
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bananabob2, the patch is in my home directory... what is the path?12:13
liabletiglionabbit: etho, or whatever your nic is12:13
bob2tiglionabbit: the first one says interface eth0 uses dhcp with ipv512:13
bob2banana: ~/12:13
TMzZLothanks anyway12:13
tiglionabbitah12:13
bob2tiglionabbit: the second says "bring up the loopback interface on boot"12:13
tiglionabbitbtw, is it submitted as a bug yet that "network-admin" takes forever at the task of changing profile?12:14
TMzZLotiglionabbit where did you find this words?12:14
tiglionabbit /etc/network/interfaces, tmzzlo12:14
TMzZLo[13:12]  <tiglionabbit> TMzZLo: I didn't configure anything to do this.  What do you mean?12:15
tiglionabbitto start at startup.12:15
thoreauputicTMzZLo: /etc/network/interfaces is auto configured , initially12:15
tiglionabbitI'm saying there is no option of whether or not to attempt to detect these things in startup12:15
tiglionabbitin any gui or during the install12:15
bananashould i exit out of firefox, bob2, as i run that patch command?12:16
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bob2banana: yes12:16
bob2tiglionabbit: there's no point asking about it12:16
liabletiglionabbit: just edit the file and reboot12:16
tiglionabbityes I know12:16
bob2tiglionabbit: the real solution is to not try to bring it up if there's no cable plugged into it12:16
bob2which will happen for breezy12:16
tiglionabbitcool12:16
liableifplugd :)12:17
bananabob2, i ran that command before exiting, and now i've extied. the command still seems to be in process.12:17
tiglionabbitliable: I tried installing the ifplugd package, and it did not solve this problem12:17
bananai suppose it takes some time for the patching to happen...12:17
liabletiglionabbit: comment the auto line out12:17
bob2banana: that probably means you didn't run what I typed12:17
bob2banana: check again12:17
tiglionabbitliable: I know12:17
liabletiglionabbit: then it should12:17
Fator_Deequickie question, I want to tar a directory? how to do it?12:17
Hajuu_didn't like lincity much.. but I got simcity 2000 going through wine12:17
Fator_Deeor tar.gz12:18
Hajuu_no hassles at all :D12:18
tiglionabbitoh, you mean ifplugd will make it do auto, but not keep it from doing auto?12:18
bob2Fator_Dee: man tar: hint tar -cf foo.tar /directory/to/tar/12:18
bananabob2, you're right. I forgot the < character!12:18
Fator_Deebob2: thanks12:18
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bananai'll quit terminal and restart terminal.12:18
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bananabob2, done. now, i'll try to start firefox with that extension and see if the problem is fixed.12:20
tiglionabbitI still don't understand what "lo" means.  It isn't mentioned in this man page12:20
liabletiglionabbit: dont worry about it12:20
theturnerthats the loopback interface12:20
bananabob2, if this is the end of the patching, it wasn't as hard as you made it sound. Thanks to your great step-by-step instructions!  8-)12:20
bob2tiglionabbit: loopback interface12:20
bob2tiglionabbit: the interface 127.0.0.1 is on12:21
tiglionabbitah12:21
bob2banana: I thought it was an actual patch to firefox12:21
bob2banana: it was just a patch to greasemonkey12:21
thoreauputictiglionabbit: linux treats your local machine a s a special case network interface (in simple terms)12:21
bananayes.12:21
ilba7rbob2 which firewall frontend you recommend guard dog or firestarter12:21
bananayou are really knowledgeable about these things. impressive.12:21
bob2ilba7r: I only use shorewall, sorry12:22
theturnerfirestarter is very recommendable12:22
ilba7rbob 2 are they all the same12:22
bananais there a way to find out the maximum upload and download speeds i have? Coz my ISP never did give me exact figures...12:22
ilba7rthanx theturner12:22
theturneryou're welcome12:23
theturnerwhere do you live?12:23
thoreauputicilba7r: no, different features and usablity ( I find firestarter quite good)12:23
theturneryou need a spped test server very near from you12:23
theturners/spped/speed12:23
ilba7rthanx alot i always know i will find help here thanks guys12:23
ilba7rsee ya12:23
bob2banana: theoretical values aren't very useful12:23
bananais there a quicker way to turn on (enable) the extensions, rather than clicking on each one and selecting "enable"?12:23
bob2banana: just time things you normally do12:23
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tiglionabbitsay, is there a place where ubuntu bugs are reported?12:24
theturnerbanana: there's a bandwidth test extension for firefox12:24
tiglionabbitor listed?12:24
bananabob2, thanks for your help in patching.12:24
bob2tiglionabbit: bugzilla.ubuntu.com12:24
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djpbluetooth > ubuntu > mobile phone? How? ;)12:24
bob2tiglionabbit: and launchpad.ubuntu.com12:24
bananatheturner, true, but did you see the rating it has on mozilla's site?12:24
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padlefot_does anybody know a good free namserver service? with email forwarding supported?12:24
theturnerbanana: no.12:24
tiglionabbithehe, I like bug #112:25
bananait has a very low rating, theturner12:25
gandalf_stormhey again12:25
theturnerpadlefot: dyndns.org ?12:25
tiglionabbitsay, about nameservers, is it possible to get a url and have it direct to somewhere down a directory tree, rather than the root of a domain?12:26
theturnerbanana: http://performance.chello.at:81/cgi-bin/upspeed.pl12:26
bob2tiglionabbit: no12:26
tiglionabbiter, a url without directories in it12:26
bob2tiglionabbit: not using dns12:26
tiglionabbitaw12:26
bob2tiglionabbit: dns just converts names to ip addresses12:26
theturnerbanana: the values will be lower than you actual speed if you're not in europe12:26
tiglionabbitit would be fun to be able to add directories to that12:26
bananawhat's the keyboard equivalent of secondary-mouse-button clicking?12:26
bob2tiglionabbit: you can play web server tricks to redirect blah.com to foo.com/blah/, though.12:26
bob2tiglionabbit: bear in mind DNS was created 10 years before http.12:27
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tiglionabbityes, but in that case I would have to own blah.com.  What if I only have a user account?12:27
bananatheturner, right. so i should find a website checker in my area, right?12:27
bob2tiglionabbit: blah.com is a domain name, not a machine12:27
tiglionabbitbut I mean I'd need to control the index of it12:28
theturnerbanana: better do that, yeah.12:28
bob2tiglionabbit: you'd have to control the web server configuration of blah.com, yes12:28
tiglionabbitI suppose I could get my dns to refer to an index i do own, and have that page redirect for me12:28
theturnerdjp: install gnome-phone-manager and gnome-bluetooth.12:28
gandalf_stormstill on same question, have cedega rpm, but no run file, and no permission to extract it to my filesys12:28
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Jmax1632<_<12:29
bob2gandalf_storm: ask transgaming for the .deb file instead12:29
Jmax1632>_>12:29
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bob2Jmax1632: ?12:29
Jmax1632anyone here can help a newbie?12:29
YoshiBishi=o12:29
theturnergandalf_storm: or use alien12:30
djptheturner: the phone in question is an SE K700i. will that work with the utils you specified?12:30
gandalf_stormalien?12:30
bob2Jmax1632: just ask your question...12:30
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Jmax1632well12:30
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bob2gandalf_storm: when you pay transgaming, don't they give you an option of rpm or deb?12:30
tiglionabbitalien can convert rpms to debs12:30
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bananaJmax1632, i like your roving eyes textual-art!12:30
Jmax1632a `sudo apt-get install dhcpcd` returns a "could not open lock file/var/lib/dpkg/lock" error12:30
Jmax1632permission denied, basically12:30
theturnergandalf_storm: man alien12:30
hyphenateddjp: I made mine work with KDE using kbluetoothd, but that won't help you much, since it's 1) KDE and 2) building a bunch of stuff from CVS12:31
gandalf_stormthanks12:31
SeveasJmax1632, close synaptic and all other instances of package managers12:31
YoshiBishioh wait lol jmax12:31
tiglionabbitJmax1632: do you have another interface for apt open?12:31
YoshiBishii forgot the sudo =P12:31
theturnergandalf_storm: alien can install non-debian package formats on debian systems12:31
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YoshiBishihahaha12:31
Jmax1632you ran su?12:31
YoshiBishibut "Couldn't find package"12:31
Jmax1632ok12:31
gandalf_stormtheturner: thanks12:31
Jmax1632what package contains dhcpcd?12:31
djphyphenated: do you have the K700i?12:31
theturnerdjp: most probably. bluetooth is bluetooth.12:32
djptheturner: ok, thanks.12:32
thoreauputicJmax1632: you mean dhcpd ?12:32
Jmax1632yes12:32
Jmax1632oops12:32
theturnerdjp: my t68i is working just fine12:32
Jmax1632YoshiBishi: `sudo apt-get install dhcpd`12:32
YoshiBishino package12:32
theturnerdjp: you're welcome.12:33
djptheturner: :). right then, i will have to get one of those bluetooth dongle thingys!12:33
thoreauputicJmax1632: apt-cache search dhcpd12:33
Jmax1632YoshiBishi: got that?12:33
YoshiBishiyea12:33
YoshiBishinow what12:33
Jmax1632what results?12:33
YoshiBishinothing happened12:33
bananacan someone help me set up gmailfs, please?12:33
thoreauputicJmax1632: dhcp3-server - DHCP server for automatic IP address assignment12:33
Jmax1632thoreauputic: we want to connect TO a dhcp server12:34
theturnerdjp: yeah, luckily they cost practically nothing ;)12:34
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thoreauputicJmax1632: the you need dhclient I'd say12:34
Jmax1632ie. ISP runs dhcpd, and we want to connect12:34
tiglionabbitsay, this is weird.  Some fonts do not show at all in firefox12:34
Jmax1632thoreauputic: which pkg?12:34
Fator_Deebanana: aren't they against googlemails rules?12:34
Fator_Deebanana: I heard that from someone in hear12:35
Jmax1632yes they are12:35
Fator_Deehere even...12:35
tiglionabbitlike for instance, Additional Comments on this page is a blank box https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=332812:35
bananaFator_Dee, viewing your own email via gmail's website is against gmail's rules, did you know that?12:35
tiglionabbithow do I fix this weirdness?12:35
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thoreauputicJmax1632: um - it should be installed by default12:35
Fator_Deebanana: hnh?12:35
Jmax1632thoreauputic: what command?12:35
thoreauputicdhclient12:35
Jmax1632k12:36
tiglionabbituh, what's banana and factor_dee talking about?12:36
tiglionabbitanyway, fontness.  What up with this?12:36
Fator_Deebanana wanted to setup a gmailfs, and I just thought they were against gmails policy12:36
tiglionabbitgmailfs?12:37
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Fator_Deetiglionabbit: basically you are using your 1gig gmail account as a remote storage12:37
tiglionabbithehe12:37
handebhey how do i sart smb on the live cd?12:37
tiglionabbitit's actually nearly 3 gigs now12:37
handebi just want to see my shars12:37
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Fator_Deetiglionabbit: well, basically :-p12:37
tiglionabbitand I believe they do allow you to store pictures there via picassa, though that's a windows application12:38
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tiglionabbityou can email pictures to yourself, btw12:38
tiglionabbitor files12:38
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bananaFator_Dee, "You ... agree that you will not use manual process to monitor any content from the Service." This is from http://gmail.google.com/gmail/help/terms_of_use.html.12:38
imsdlehow do i fix this? The following packages have unmet dependencies:12:39
imsdle  skype: Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3) but 3:3.2.3-4ubuntu1 is to be installed12:39
tiglionabbitlol12:39
imsdle??????????????12:39
Fator_Deebanana: I sayd, that I just heard from someone that they were agains their policy and I wanted to inform you of that12:39
bananatiglionabbit, well, it's currently at 2246MB.12:39
Fator_Deebanana: I don't personally care if you use it, but I wanted you to know about it12:39
handeblol never mind probley is working just havn't got a windows machine turned on12:39
bananaok.12:40
tiglionabbit*repeats himself*  Firefox!  Font invisible!  WTFS12:40
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raDeonWHO CALLED ME12:40
bananatiglionabbit, doesn't picassa reduce the filesizes of images? or is it just flickr?12:40
thoreauputictiglionabbit: try setting it to use your font choice in edit>> prefs or wherever it is12:40
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imsdleanyone?12:40
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thoreauputicI had a similar issue with some sites12:41
bananaimsdle, then get those dependcies.12:41
Jmax1632ok12:42
Q-FUNKone question about the live CD:  since which Ubuntu release does the CD include win32 ports of e.g. OOo and Firefox, from the OpenCD project?12:42
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theturnerQ-FUNK: since Warty, the first release12:42
thoreauputicQ-FUNK: only on the Hoary version, AFAIK12:42
Jmax1632can someone help YoshiBishi set up his roadrunner internet service on Hoary?12:42
thoreauputictheturner: really?12:42
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theturnerthoreauputic: i am quite sure12:43
thoreauputicOK12:43
handebhow to i install .deb?12:43
handebim used to rpms12:43
thoreauputicsudo dpkg -i <nameofdeb>12:43
Fator_Deehandeb: sudo dpkg -i debfile.deb12:43
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Q-FUNKhandeb: but you most probably would rather use APT or Synaptic to fetch the deb and handle the dependencies for you.12:44
thoreauputichandeb: in general you should use synaptic/apt instead though12:44
imsdlemy evolution keeps freezing.. does anyone know how to update or reinstall it...?12:44
SirGirI want to stop Gdm from running at boot, will '/etc/init.d/gdm stop' be enoght?12:44
SirGirenough*12:45
Juhazno12:45
handebthanks thoreauputic :D12:45
SirGiror do I have to edit inittab?12:45
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SirGiror what?12:45
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thoreauputicSirGir: no, that won't persist across reboots12:45
handebQ-FUNK, yeah but opera is not on apt12:45
IIIEarssame trouble here with evolution - installed thunderbird. - no more troubles. - easier to set up also.12:45
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chrissturmanyone know how to fix the key bindings in breezy?12:46
Burgundaviachrissturm, a fix is coming12:46
Burgundaviachrissturm, should be the next few days12:46
thoreauputicSirGir: edit  /etc/X11/default-display-manager and put "false"12:46
chrissturmburgundavia: anything i can do to fix it locally?12:47
IIIEarswww.mozilla.org/projects/thunderbird/12:47
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Burgundaviachrissturm, no idea12:47
chrissturmthx12:47
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OConnorc ke g un probleme12:47
SirGirthoreauputic, 'false' insted of '/usr/bin/gdm' ?12:47
OConnoravec c dlire la12:47
thoreauputicyes12:47
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SirGirthenostradamus, Thanks!12:48
thoreauputicSirGir: ^^12:48
thoreauputicSirGir: heh - tab completion error :)12:48
OConnoril me fau d plugins additionnels12:48
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amichaihey can someone tell  me where i can edit my interface12:49
thoreauputicOConnor: /join #ubuntu-fr12:49
Seveasamichai, sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces12:49
OConnormerci12:49
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amichaiSeveas, thanx man. can u tell me where  i can get good xtra repos, cos the ones on ubuntuguide broke my ubuntu12:49
Seveasamichai, why do you want extras? the official ubuntu ones provide quite a lot...12:50
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giggseyhow do I install a .deb12:50
giggseywhats the command12:50
Fator_Deegiggsey: sudo dpkg -i debfile.deb12:50
amichaiSeveas, ok. so i'll stay away fromt hem12:50
lonewolffsudo dpkg -i yourpackage.deb12:50
IIIEarsgigg - dpkg -i yourdeb12:51
amichaiSeveas, one more thing: does this make sense to u: # The primary network interface12:51
amichaiauto eth\iface etho inet static\ address 0.0.0.012:51
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Seveasno12:51
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Seveasaddress 0.0.0.0 does not make sense :)12:51
Fator_Deeamichai: you should only use ubuntu's own repos, main, restricted, universe, multiverse12:51
amichaiSeveas, only the 0.0.0.0 doesnt make sense? what about eth\iface etho inet static ?12:52
giggseythanks Fator_Dee, you guys are my heros today, and you must be fed up of me ;)12:52
amichaiFator_Dee, thanx will do.12:52
amichaiSeveas, the 0.0.0.0 works. not sure whether inet is correct12:52
Seveasthat is correct12:53
amichaiok cool :012:53
Seveasbut 0.0.0.0 ..? why don't you put your real address there12:53
amichai:0)12:53
althepcmanhaving problems with wine can anyone help?12:53
giggseynow starts the long list of install dependaces12:53
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giggsey^_^12:53
amichaiSeveas, i dont know. it works great without it. i dont get d/c anymore12:53
IIIEarsgiggsey - "Pay it Forward" - :)12:54
thoreauputicalthepcman: alcoholics anonymous ?12:54
amichaiSeveas, i dont have a static ip12:54
Seveasamichai, ah12:54
Seveasthen the thing does not make sense :)12:54
Seveasremove the addr line12:54
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Seveasthe iface line should be: iface eth0 inet dhcp12:54
safezonehi room12:55
amichaiSeveas, but then i get disconnected every 30 min when it renews the ip12:55
giggseyIIIEars, o-O?12:55
althepcmanthoreauputic: thanks but no thanks12:55
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handebapt-get -f install should fill mising depends ay?12:55
giggseyohh12:55
giggseyohh12:55
safezonean one good with linux12:55
IIIEarsreturn the favor to others that ask.12:55
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giggseyill do it myself12:55
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thoreauputicalthepcman: I think you need to be more specific ;)12:55
Seveasamichai, that's weird...12:56
amichaiSeveas, i know. but this worked great.12:56
Seveasamichai, try editing /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf (oslt) and disable that timeout12:56
althepcmanthoreauputic: ok I am tring to install msi and I get Wine failed with return code 25012:56
thoreauputicalthepcman: have you asked in #winehq?12:56
safezonei need hellp in ubuntu12:56
thoreauputicalthepcman: they would be more likely to know12:57
Burgundaviasafezone, what is your issue?12:57
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amichaiSeveas, i dont have such a file12:57
samuelcQuestion, I've had hoary 5.04 on my other computer before working fine. I recently got a new hdd, and have tried to re-install it, I have entered different install parameters (via chipset), but still after about 5 seconds it is coming up with "Kernel Panic - not syncing: Attempting to kill init!"12:57
safezonei newly installed this linux12:57
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handebapt-get -f install should fill mising depends ay?12:58
safezonebut i don't know the password as root12:58
IIIEarssafezone - there is no need for a root password sudo does it all12:58
Seveasamichai, /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf12:58
safezonehow is that12:58
samuelchrm ^^^ the question to my previous post would be, has anybody encounted or heard of this problem? and is it fixable?12:58
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althepcmanthoreauputic: I have but it seems no one knows I was just asking here if some here had seen it12:59
Seveassamuelc, i the install cd panicing or the installed system?12:59
yahalomSeveas, i dont see any timeout uncommented12:59
IIIEarssafezone - if someone knows a account name "root" in this example it is easier foor them to break in.   sudo <command> is more secure01:00
tiglionabbitsafezone: use your user password01:00
samuelcSeveas : I assume it's the cd, because it is a fresh hdd. I've re-burned the iso, and re-downloaded the iso from a different site(just to be sure), same problem.01:00
safezonei did but it didn't work01:00
IIIEarsubuntuguide.org http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/01:01
|Ivanch0|someone knows its is posible configure 3d aceleration in vmware?01:01
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Fator_Deesamuelc: you can use the md5sum to check if you dl'ed and burned it properly01:01
Seveassamuelc: i meant: did you get panic booting the install cd or is the install cd working fine but after that it panics?01:01
safezonei need to switch to root01:01
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Fator_Deesafezone: what do you need to use root for?01:01
Seveassafezone, you can use sudo01:01
Seveassafezone: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo01:01
samuelcSeveas : sorry, It boots the install cd, and then panics01:01
IIIEarssafezone - sudo <application_name> works also.01:02
Seveassamuelc, afaik the install cd can take several boot options, have you tried them?01:02
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samuelcSeveas : yeah I have tried all that are relevant, even some that aren't, still same error, I have no idea why it would do this considering 2 weeks ago it was working fine, same hardware except different hdd01:03
IIIEarsSeveas - I need a script to save links in. Do you know of one?01:03
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safezonei need to change resolution01:04
IIIEarssafezone - Is your display offering more than 640x480?01:04
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safezoneno01:04
safezoneonly 640*480 and 60refrsh rate01:06
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Fator_Deesafezone: what are the resolutions and refresh rate your monitor is capable of?01:07
safezoneover xp it can give 1024 and more01:07
IIIEarssafezone - Ouch! - Easy to fix though. - kill the xserver (desktop gui) CTRL+ALT+ <backspace> then login @  give your user password , then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - let me give you the webpage if you have trouble.01:07
Seveassamuelc, are you sure it boots from the cd and not an installd linux system on a harddisk?01:07
Fator_Deesafezone: when you know them, you can reconfigure xserver-xorg and you can specify the resolutions to be used01:07
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Seveasif so -> file a bugreport please :)01:08
Fator_DeeIIIEars: you don't necessarily have to kill teh xserver to reconfig it01:08
Fator_DeeIIIEars: you can reconfig in x and then restart01:08
safezoneok01:08
IIIEarsSeveas - do you have the link for ubuntu dpkg recongiure screen res.?01:08
samuelcSeveas - hrmm I was hoping i wouldn't have to get to that stage01:08
safezoneno give it to me01:09
IIIEarsuFator_Dee - do you have the link?01:09
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Fator_DeeIIIEars: nope, never had the need for one :-|01:09
Fator_DeeI could try to find it though, but it's not hard01:09
IIIEarsjust a sec got too many - let me reread 'em.01:10
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Fator_Deehttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto that might be it01:12
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podgeAnyone get spam from KusursuZ??01:13
flankkokay, i get halfway through compiling wine, and then the computer shuts down. i really don't respect that.01:13
IIIEarssafezone - whew too many links i need a maid. - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:13
safezoneok thanks a lot01:13
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rixthCan one have more than 4 workspaceS?01:14
safezoneok i'll try it01:14
giggseyis there an easy way to install Anjuta, like other programs ive installed this morning01:14
IIIEarssafezone - Welcome!01:14
flankki've compiled wine on several different distributions, same version of wine, no issues.  no excuse for that...01:14
podgerixth: You should be able to right click on the workspaces. Then go to preferences.. then change how many your want!01:14
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Fator_Deerixth: I have 6 :-|01:15
Fator_Deerixth: so I'd guess so01:15
syndi hate allergies :|01:15
rixthThanks01:15
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IIIEarsFator_Dee - I need a python script to type out links for FAQs - do you know one?01:16
podgeFator_Dee: 6.. Wow..01:16
podgeFator_Dee: What you doing on all those workspaces? :)01:16
flankkanyone know what would cause this?01:16
thoreauputicgiggsey: anjuta is in the universe repo01:16
podgeflankk: Does it happen when you compile other big proagrams?01:17
Seveasflankk, why compiling wine, the version in the ubuntu repos is recent....01:17
thoreauputicgiggsey: so if that is enabled, sudo apt-get install anjuta01:17
Fator_Deepodge: I like to keep different programs on different workspaces :-)01:17
podgeSeveas: I agree.01:17
Fator_Deepodge: I don't feel crowded that way, but sometimes even 6 is not enough :-p01:17
flankkSeveas, is it though?01:17
podgeFator_Dee: You would be in trouble running Windows then eh? :)01:17
Fator_Deepodge: I'd be mentally ill :-|01:17
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SeveasVersion: 0.0.20050310-1.101:18
flankkSeveas, that is old!01:18
Fator_Deepodge: there's absolutely no way I could use any OS without workspaces now :-)01:18
Seveasflankk, it's as recent as it gets in a stable distro...01:19
giggseythanks thoreauputic01:19
Seveasflankk, if you want bleeding-edge, go gentoo...01:19
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flankkSeveas, so you're saying stable is when your computer shuts down mid-compile.. right.01:19
thoreauputicgiggsey: for future reference: to find a package run ` apt-cache search <keyword> `01:19
podgeFator_Dee: Agreed.01:19
podgeSome good looking women on Miss Universe at the moment..01:20
flankkSeveas, lose the attitude please. i have used many distributions, including gentoo, never had an involuntary shutdown.01:20
Fator_DeeO.o01:20
giggseykk01:20
podgeflankk: Does it happen when you compile other big programs?01:20
felisdoes anyone know have the ogre/cegui/cg packages by Matt Galvin are coming along?01:20
Seveasflankk, agreed, invluntary shutdown aren't quite the stable behaviour, does it happen at the same point every time..?01:21
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flankkSeveas, i'd have to check the logs01:21
pregloware anyone aware of any bugs in ubuntu hoary gdb for x86-64?01:21
Seveaspreglow, search the bugzilla :)01:22
preglowdid, couldn't find anything01:22
preglowbut i get what looks like differing pointer sizes here01:23
preglowwhich is quite insane01:23
flankkSeveas, gah, logs say ziltch.  i'll pipe the output to a file this time.01:24
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flankkSeveas, see you after the power cycle :|01:24
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tiglionabbiton bugzilla, who should I assign a bug to?01:26
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Fikranntiglionabbit, if you are just reporting bug, noone.01:28
tiglionabbitit seems to want me to put someone in...  *tries leaving it blank*01:28
podgethoreauputic: Much been going on today?01:28
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thoreauputicpodge: um...01:29
amichaihow do i get he_IL.UFT-8?01:29
tiglionabbitoh cool, when I select the component it types someone in there if it's blank01:29
podgethoreauputic: A bit slow in here tonight.. everyone must be figuring stuff out for themselves..01:30
amichaianybody?01:30
thoreauputicpodge: I wish ;)01:30
giggseydoes anyone know of a good graphical php editor for ubuntu?01:30
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podgethoreauputic: Do you do any dev work on Linux etc?01:30
tiglionabbitsay, what do you think of my bug?  https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1135701:31
ogi_giggsey, gedit :P01:31
thoreauputicpodge: no, I'm just an ordinary dude ;-)01:31
thoreauputicpodge: My coding is limited to a few bash scripts01:31
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giggseyim looking at GPHPEdit01:34
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Fikranntiglionabbit, it's slow because it runs dhcpclient3 for all interfaces, useful or not this behaviour might be.01:35
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safezonehi i'm back01:35
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tiglionabbitwhat's with the splurt of error messages it prints when starting?01:36
safezoneit didn't work01:36
tiglionabbitand the huge lag when quitting after changing location?01:36
IIIEarsthoreauputic - why are you kidding yourself? - "Ordinary dude.." nah you and a dozen other people make the Ubuntu channel great.01:36
safezonecan u give me the link again01:36
Fikranntiglionabbit, and personally, I found laptop-net much better tool01:36
tiglionabbitoo01:36
martinhjFikrann: I have disabled those interfaces I don't use in the different locations I got.. don't think network-admin tries to use dhclient on those01:36
thoreauputicIIIEars: thanks - well everyone contributes I guess01:37
IIIEarsthoreauputic - you field more questions than any most people.01:37
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tiglionabbitsay, is backports.ubuntuforums.org down at the moment?01:37
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Fikrannmartinhj, I saw it trying to run dhcpclient on interfaces not existing in the kernel at that moment... but maybe it's simply my setup too unusual for this tool.01:38
martinhjFikrann: heh, strange:-)01:39
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Fikrannmartinhj, that's why I stopped using it. And it was constantly dropping my default gw information.01:39
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tiglionabbitwhen I install laptop-net, will it automatically be useful, or do I need to do something?01:40
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martinhjFikrann: sure that was network-admin itself? not dhclient or something?01:40
mischaquestion: how can i disable the startup sound when i enter gnome. i already disabled System->Preferences->Sound-> Sound events-> Logon and Logoff, but that does not help.01:40
tiglionabbitoo, it popped up a gui with a single checkbox in it01:40
Fikranntiglionabbit, you need to edit two files.01:40
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tiglionabbitmischa: tell it not to spawn a sound daemon, on that sound page01:41
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tiglionabbitfirst tab I believe01:41
Seveastiglionabbit, that will not solve it...01:41
tiglionabbitoh, I see, that's what you're referring to.  um, I don't know then01:42
Seveasmischa, the drum roll you hear on startup is not part of your user-configuration, but a system-wide setting01:42
IIIEarsthoreauputic - Do you know someone that can tweak an Xchat ispell script to  FAQ URLS to menomics?01:42
tiglionabbitthe drum thing is fun though, don't kill it!  <- *is being silly and unhelpful*01:42
safezonethe link for fix resolution plz01:42
Seveasmischa, go to system->administration->login screen setup01:43
thoreauputicIIIEars: I don't even understand the question :)01:43
Seveasmischa , and look at the accessibility tab01:43
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IIIEarsthorthoreauputic - (lol - a little beyond me too.) - I have a nice script that intercepts typos. It should be able to add FAQ URLS by typing the first few characters.01:44
safezoneIIIEars the link for fix resolution plz01:44
SeveasIIIEars, i have a faq script for xchat...01:44
IIIEarsDisplay http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:45
weedarMy USB mic (AK5370) is visible in Kmix, but it doesn't work. Any suggestions?01:45
safezoneok thanks01:45
IIIEarsthoreuputic - example typing "short:Display" might type the url to adjust resolution.01:46
weedarOr maybe somebody knows where I should search for help? :)01:46
SeveasIIIEars, i just type /faq $NICK $id and it displays $NICK: $ANSWER :)01:47
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flankkwell, it did it again.01:47
podgeIIIEars: That should be able to be setup with the Auto Replace feature?01:47
IIIEarsHm - sounds good :) - didn't know you could do that. - do you have the listing?01:48
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tiglionabbithey, how do I extract something that is .gz, not .tar.gz?01:48
flankkpiped the output to a log, the comp restarted involuntarily.. and the log says nothing about a failure.01:48
thoreauputictiglionabbit: gunzip01:48
mischaSeveas:tanx very much, that should do it :)01:49
nrlCindyy: stop spamming01:49
thoreauputictiglionabbit: ie.  gunzip foo.gz01:49
mischatiglionabbit: Seveas has the solution :)01:49
IIIEarspodge - google xchat ispell - http://woody.linif.org/pub/xchat/xspell.pl01:49
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podgeflankk: It will depend it the output buffer was flushed before the crash..01:49
tiglionabbitoh.  Coulda sworn I'd said which gunzip a second ago and got nothing.  Worked01:50
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podgeflankk: Can you tell what files it was building before the crash?01:50
tiglionabbitlol, oh, I'd said which ungzip01:50
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dna`i cant get sound to work, and enablding dma doesnt work, and totem doesnt run01:50
flankkpodge, gcc -c -I. -I. -I../../include -I../../include  -D__WINESRC__  -DCOM_NO_WINDOWS_H -D_REENTRANT -fPIC -Wall -pipe -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -fno-strict-aliasing -gstabs+ -Wpointer-arith  -g -O2 -o htmldoc.o htmldoc.c01:51
flankkpodge, that's last i got, no errors previous.01:51
Seveasflankk, and did it finish building htmldoc.o?01:51
Seveasflankk, what happens if you manually compile that file?01:51
flankkSeveas, let me check01:51
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chrissturmwhen i have a default ubuntu install, is there a smtp server running on localhost?01:51
Seveasdna`, dma has nothing to do with sound..01:52
Seveaschrissturm, yes, postfix01:52
dna`Seveas, i know, i just listed all the problems in one line01:52
Fikrannflankk, have you run memtest86 on your machine?01:52
Seveasdna`, ah ok :)01:52
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chrissturmseveas: does it relay?01:52
-Cindyy:#ubuntu- I am Picture --> wWw.aysu.gen.ms /Cindy.JPG01:52
-Cindyy:#ubuntu- I am Picture --> wWw.aysu.gen.ms /Cindy.JPG01:52
-Cindyy:#ubuntu- I am Picture --> wWw.aysu.gen.ms /Cindy.JPG01:52
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flankkFikrann, yes.01:52
benjamin1anyone here using ubuntu colony 1 cd (breezy)?01:53
Seveasdna`, describe `sound not working', load your motherboards drivers, decribr 'not running'01:53
dna`whats this? dalnet?01:53
flankkFikrann, like i said, i have run many distros, never with this problem.01:53
Fikranndna`, if you'd be more specific about your hardware someone might be able to help you.01:53
Seveaschrissturm, no, it listens only on localhost01:53
Seveasfor cron etc.01:53
dna`its audigy2zs, its detected, but whenever i play something whatever it is(dvd,mp3,ogg) no sound comes out at all01:54
podgeflankk: Is htmldoc.o there or not?01:54
FikrannCan someone please ban this spambot? Cindyy (~PrivatE@85.96.23.174)01:54
flankkpodge, i am looking. pop a riddalin..01:54
chrissturmseveas: but can i use the smtp on localhost to send mails to any domain? i have a webapp that needs to send emails, and it wants to use a smtp server at localhost01:54
Seveasdna`, audigy support is very flaky, there is a complicated solution that you can find on the forums01:54
podgefind . -name htmldoc.o01:54
podge:)01:54
dna`i installed xmms, beep, mplayer, xine, gstreamer mad...01:54
Seveaschrissturm, you will need to configure it01:54
IIIEarsSeveas -  ""   /faq help  "" Doesn't produce a list - D-oh! ;)01:54
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SeveasIIIEars, /faq is part of i script i created ;)01:55
chrissturmseveas: thx, where can i get started?01:55
Fikranndna`, starting from basics, are you sure that you have unmuted all channels?01:55
dna`Seveas, how come? it always worked on GNU/Linux ;/01:55
Seveaschrissturm, www.ubuntuforums.org01:55
Gollieguys - i'm trying to guide a technophobe thru a misconfigured network install on ubuntu (i'm not in front of it myself) he's using a DHCP on road runner - is there a network setup wizard? and if so, where is it off the menu.01:55
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Seveasdna`, hmm, that's what i understood...01:55
IIIEarsSeveas - I'll FAX you a flat soda/beer if you would be generous enough too share it. :)01:55
Seveashehe01:55
dna`Fikrann, yes, but i think its because i have a camera, its detecting it as a sound card too...01:55
flankkpodge, not there01:56
SeveasIIIEars, i'll share it later, will have to clean up the code a bit ;)01:56
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podgeflankk: Okay.. cut and paste that last gcc line.. and run it manually..01:56
Fikrannflankk, I just had to throw out a laptop memory module, exactly one year and one month after it was bought, because it started corrupting data.01:56
podgeflankk: If your box dies.. then that is the problem..01:56
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flankkFikrann, lol01:56
flankkpodge, ok01:57
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dcravenGollie: Not really a "wizard", but there is a GUI at System/Administration/Networking.01:57
IIIEarsSeveas - Take pity on me. (considers begging.)01:57
Fikranndna`, then check if your audio player is outputting to right device.01:57
Golliefound that one - doesn't seem to be helping him - i'll try the shell commands again01:57
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IIIEarsonly my 5th week using linux believe me i wouldn't kow good code from Fortran.01:58
Fator_DeeFikrann: hope there was still warranty on the stick01:58
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Fator_DeeFikrann: usually they should have more than a year01:59
dna`Fikrann, i selected the soundcard in xmms for example, and still now sound :(01:59
FikrannFator_Dee, It had one year guarantee01:59
IIIEarslol - I'll try to adapt the .pl script - this should be fun.01:59
Fator_DeeFikrann: strange stick :-o02:00
dcravenWeek 5 already eh IIIEars? Nice to see you still hangin' around :)02:00
Fator_DeeFikrann: I wouldn't even buy a memory stick with that much warranty :-p02:00
podgeIIIEars: You are new to Linux.. Don't know how to code.. and are looking at Perl? :) I wish you luck!!02:00
Fikranndna`, try another Audigy driver? My Audigy is detected as Classic, doesn't work with that driver, only with Audigy LS.02:00
IIIEarsdcraven - Yep Ubuntu is the best. :)02:00
FikrannFator_Dee, it was purchased as a part of a laptop.02:01
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dna`Fikrann, any idea how i can change the driver?02:01
weedarAm I correct in assuming that ubuntu uses both oss and alsa at the same time?02:01
Fikrannrmmod one and insmod another?02:01
IIIEars 5 weeks = 150 hours on the 'net r about 2 XP reinstalls. - lol02:01
yahalomhow come mplayer is not in the ubuntu repos?02:01
dna`ah okay02:01
Seveasyahalom, it is02:01
Seveasin multiverse02:01
weedaryahalom: use http://www.ubuntuguide.org/ to get mplayer and other goodies installed :)02:02
yahalomSeveas, E: Couldn't find package mplayer02:03
Fator_Deeyahalom: do you have the repositories enabled?02:03
yahalomweedar, ubuntuguide broke my ubuntu02:03
yahalomFator_Dee, yes02:03
Fator_Deeyahalom: universe and multiverse?02:03
yahalomFator_Dee, yes02:03
Fator_Deeyahalom: did you sudo apt-get update?02:03
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flankklol02:03
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yahalomFator_Dee, yes02:03
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Fator_Deeare you sure of both :-|02:04
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gnix_oaghollel02:04
yahalomFator_Dee, yes :)02:04
weedarwow, I just recently installed Kubuntu (ubuntu with KDE) and I followed almost all of the guide with success02:04
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Fator_Deethen it's officially strange02:04
Seveasyahalom, http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/6102:04
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Seveasit's not called mplayer..02:04
UbuntuPenguinHello all. Any master of iptables? I require help. Thanks.02:04
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Fator_DeeSeveas: what then :-O02:04
SeveasFator_Dee, look at that pastebin url :)02:05
yahalomSeveas, dont get any of that02:05
yahalomSeveas, onyl when i had nerim i got that02:05
Seveasyahalom, apt-cache search mplayer02:05
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BaluHi everyone02:05
Fator_DeeSeveas: I thought it would get some package automatically from just mplayer :-|02:05
yahalomSeveas, ackstein:~$ sudo apt-cache search mplayer02:05
yahalommga-vid-source - Kernel driver for the back-end scaler on Matrox cards (source)02:05
yahalomavigail@blackstein:~$02:05
yahalomwow long sorry02:05
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Balukubuntu did not detect my cdrecorder :(02:06
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yahalomBalu, #kubuntu02:06
ice_1963lol02:06
Fator_Deeyahalom: it seems you don't have the right repos or you haven't updated, they should be found02:06
BaluI wonder if all I need to do is add to the boot... hdc=ide-scsi02:06
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Fator_Deeyahalom: and you don't need sudo with apt-cache02:06
yahalomFator_Dee, can i query u my repos?02:06
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Baluyahalom: kubuntu = ubuntu ;) or is the installation different?02:06
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tommi^The laptop team's (leader Matthew Garret) page seems bit outdated. Are there any news from the team?02:06
Fator_Deeyahalom: put them on some pastebin service02:06
yahalomok02:07
Sauron21hi....is there anyway to change the interface name of eth1(which is my wireless card) to  wlan0 ??02:07
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yahalomFator_Dee, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/29263102:07
yahalomBalu, kde is always different02:08
FikrannSauron21, ifrename02:08
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Fator_Deeyahalom: try without the il.02:08
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YouvalQuestion:  Has anyone had experience with an Intel 915P motherboard?02:08
yahalomFator_Dee, us?02:08
Fator_Deeyahalom: just archive.ubuntu.com etc etc02:09
podgeIIIEars: xspell.pl crashes my x-chat.. :(02:09
SeveasIIIEars, grab these files http://ubuntulinux.nl/~dennis/faq.py http://ubuntulinux.nl/~dennis/faq.dat and put them in ~/.xchat/02:09
SeveasIIIEars, then do /py load faq.py02:10
Seveasit will be auto-loaded from the next start of xchat on02:10
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Baluyahalom: cdrecord ist not kde02:11
Balu:)02:11
yahalomFator_Dee, same02:11
podgeOnly $188 (AUD) for Microsoft Office Student and Teacher Edition... too much? :)02:12
Fator_Deewell I'll be damned :-\02:12
ys76Balu: But k3b is02:12
yahalomFator_Dee, i'm telling u i never got it without nerim02:12
Baluys76: the problem is on console level, not a kde app02:12
Fator_Deeyahalom: but that's just... unbelievebla02:12
Fator_Dee*ble02:12
Balucdrecord -scanbus tells me that "No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver."02:12
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Echelon-Hhow can I unzip a rar?02:13
yahalomBalu, sorry man. i thought kde wanst detecting ur cdrom02:13
Balunah :)02:13
SeveasEchelon-H, sudo aptitude install unrar-nonfree02:13
yahalomFator_Dee, so what do i  do ?: )02:13
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Seveasand use unrar e [rarfile] 02:13
Echelon-HSeveas, what's nonfree?02:13
Fator_Deeyahalom: you sure you searched for mplayer-386 or some other?02:13
ys76Balu: Try cdrecord -dev=ATAPI: -scanbus02:13
SeveasEchelon-H, non-open-source02:13
Seveasbut it works :)02:13
Fikrannpodge, that's $180 more than I'd pay for product from One Microsoft Way.02:13
Fator_Deeyahalom: like mplayer-k7 mplayer-586 etc02:13
Echelon-Hand what's aptitude?02:13
Echelon-Hwhy not apt-get install?02:13
Fator_Deeyahalom: whatever your processor is02:14
yahalomFator_Dee, E: Couldn't find package mplayer-38602:14
Seveasaptitude is better :)02:14
Baluys76: no result either :(02:14
Echelon-HSeveas, can you explain why?02:14
IIIEarsHi Echelon-H02:14
yahalomE: Couldn't find package mplayer-k702:14
Echelon-HIIIEars, hi02:14
yahalomE: Couldn't find package mplayer-58602:14
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r0dI recently upgrade apps w/ synaptic and rebooted. after that synaptic and apt-get dont work. when using apt-get i get 'segmentation fault02:14
thoreauputicyahalom: your sources are wrong02:14
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Baluok, I'll try to load some ide-scsi at boot... we'll see if that helps02:14
yahalomthoreauputic, in what way? these are what i got with my new install02:14
Balulater02:14
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ys76Balu: There is a readme about ATAPI-Drives and cdrecord - somewhere02:15
Seveasaptitude does more administration to facilitate things like uninstalling02:15
ogi_yahalom, that's the reason02:15
Fator_Deeyahalom: enable multiverse?02:15
Seveasread the docs to find the details ;)02:15
Echelon-HSeveas, oh.02:15
thoreauputicyahalom: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto02:15
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thoreauputicyahalom: you need universe and multiverse02:15
yahalomFator_Dee, i just enabled whatever was there02:15
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Fator_Deeyahalom: gah, I didn't see you did'nt have multiverse there :-|02:16
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Fikrannr0d, you got installation errors while installing with Synaptic, didn't you.02:16
thoreauputicyahalom: add the word "multiverse" to your universe lines02:16
yahalomthanx02:17
thoreauputicthen sudo apt-get update02:17
r0dFikrann, some that it couldnt find certain servers02:17
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Echelon-Hhow can I do locate that it will show me a path only when it found something?02:17
SeveasEchelon-H, huh? slocate does that....02:18
Seveasor do you mean something else??02:18
Echelon-HSeveas, how can i uninstall after i'm doing aptitude? is there a "better" uninstall?02:18
Fikrannr0d, while installing, not downloading.02:18
IIIEarslol - just munged that .pl script comepletly - rofl02:18
Seveassudo aptitude purge :)02:18
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r0dFikrann, while installing yea02:18
SeveasIIIEars, have you seen my faqscript already..?02:19
Tallia1HI! do u know a good p2p program for ubuntu?02:19
IIIEarsNo. - Can i?02:19
Seveasit's python, so better readable than perl ;)02:19
SeveasIIIEars, grab these files http://ubuntulinux.nl/~dennis/faq.py http://ubuntulinux.nl/~dennis/faq.dat and put them in ~/.xchat/02:19
SeveasIIIEars, then do /py load faq.py02:19
podgeperl rocks.. :)02:19
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Seveasit will be auto-loaded from the next start of xchat on02:19
Seveasperl is evil02:19
IIIEarsOutstanding! Thank You.02:19
Seveaspython is better :)02:19
podgehaha.. but where was python when perl was first around? :)02:20
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Seveasnot invented yet, but if you go that way, use fortran...02:20
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podgeSeveas: Go assembly even.. :)02:20
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podgeSeveas: I didn't know perl until I started my current job about 5 years ago..02:21
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r0dFikrann,  so am i screwed?02:21
Seveaspodge, by that time, python was 4 years old ;)02:21
Fikrannr0d, by not paying attention to warnings, yes.02:22
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Fikrannpodge, I must say that I've seen perl programs far less readable than anything you can do in assembly.02:23
r0dFikrann, um its not like i could say yes or no.02:23
bigfooti have python2.3-fuse, should i delete that and instead install python2.4-fuse?02:23
IIIEarsNew toys! :) - bbl02:23
podgeFikrann: No arguments there.. :)02:24
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podgeSeveas: I do need to learn python.. It is going to be bigger than Perl one day..02:24
egg|-_-python,ruby,lua ...02:24
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egg|-_-toys02:24
Seveaspodge, indeed, it's better so eventually it will be bigger ;02:24
Seveas;)02:24
Seveaspodge, sudo aptitude install diveintopython02:25
Seveas:)02:25
egg|-_-java would be dead02:25
egg|-_-that's all02:26
chrissturmyeah, lets discuss what language is the best :P02:26
egg|-_-perl02:26
egg|-_-perl + shell scripts02:26
chrissturmi was kidding02:26
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thoreauputic0000011110111100001111102:26
egg|-_-+ console tools02:26
Seveas01100010 01101001 01101110 01100001 01110010 01111001 00100000 01101001 01110011 00100000 00110001 00110011 00110011 0011011102:26
podgeSeveas: Good point..02:27
Seveas:)02:27
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Zambbain 02:27
Seveas70 6f 69 6e02:27
egg|-_-firefox culculator  souks02:28
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ZambbaHello, my friends Grub is somehow borken.. there is Windows on menu.lst but while booting the Grub doesn't appear.. :S02:31
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Zambbabroken*02:31
bigfootto anybody with an answer: i have python2.3-fuse, should i delete that and instead install python2.4-fuse?02:31
SeveasZambba, so it boots straight into linux?02:31
bigfootis 2.4 an upgrade +02:32
bigfoot?02:32
Seveasbigfoot, default python in hoary is 2.4, so yes install python2.4-fuse02:32
othernoobhey, i'm having problems booting xp.. it appears in grub, but when i choose it i get a "virus: bootsector writing Y/N" message and can't do anything but reboot. menu.lst is configured properly.02:33
bigfootSeveas, thanks. How come my Ubuntu CD had 2.3 installed instead?02:33
Seveasis that a warty cd?02:33
Fikrannbigfoot, Python 2.4 is somewhat different from 2.3, it's different release, so no, it's not a simple upgrade.02:34
Seveasothernoob, sounds like you have either installed a very intrusive virus scanner or a virus02:34
bigfootSeveas, should i install 2.4 first, then uninstall 2.3 next? or can i do both at the same time (in synaptic)? The CD i used was the one from shipit.ubuntu.org. It's Ubunut version 5.04.02:34
bigfootFikrann, what then must be done?02:34
Seveasyou can have both python2.4 and python2.3 installed at the same time02:35
Fikrannyes, you can have both.02:35
bigfootseveas, what benefit is there of having 2.3 if you have 2.4? doesn't 2.4 do everything that 2.3 can, except better and maybe more?02:35
bigfootdo you guys have both installed?02:36
Seveasyou can remove 2.3 too02:36
bigfootis that what you recommend?02:36
Seveasi have removed it02:36
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thoreauputicbigfoot: odd: i have Hoary and `python -V` says Python 2.4.102:36
othernoobSeveas: kinda unlikely, i uninstalled kubuntu 2 days because i followed some guys advice on how to remove gnome, which led me to have a 640*480 screen res in kde. so i uninstalled it and installed it again just like before.. and before, xp and grub were having no problems.02:36
capihow do I reinstall a package with apt-get?02:36
othernoob2 days ago *02:36
thoreauputiccapi: sudo apt-get install --reinstall <package>02:37
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bigfootthoreauputic, hi. i did  python -V just now and it says 2.4.1, as well. But in synaptic python2.4-fuse is not installed. I'm confused.02:37
Seveasothernoob, in that case: i have no idea02:38
othernoob:/02:38
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bigfootif a program's instructions says "make sure that you have python 2.3 installed," does this mean "python 2.3 or 2.4"?02:38
Seveasbigfoot, no, that means 2.302:39
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Seveasif it says 2.3 or higher, it means 2.3 or 2.402:39
hans_how con i extract a splitted rar archive?02:39
thoreauputicbigfoot: erm, why not install  python2.4-fuse from the universe repo?02:39
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bigfootseveas, how come python -V says 2.4.1, but synaptic shows python2.4-fuse is uninstalled? Are they not the samet thing?02:39
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thoreauputicbigfoot: evidently not02:40
Seveasbigfoot, no02:40
featheredfrogAnyone got a mind for a question?02:40
Seveaspython2.4-fuse is a module for python 2.402:40
Seveaspython2.3-fuse is a module for python 2.302:40
Fikrannothernoob, try booting some recovery CD and run a virus check on your windoze partition.02:40
Seveasfeatheredfrog, read the first part of the topic...02:40
bigfooti have mind, but i may not have an answer featheredfrog. 8-) i'm a newbie.02:40
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thoreauputicbigfoot: apt-cache show  python2.4-fuse02:40
bigfootthoreauputic, i just finished getting 2.4fuse via synaptic, do i still need to do: apt-cache show  python2.4-fuse?02:41
othernoobFikrann: i hardly ever use XP and XP is not connected to the internet.. and there are just like 5 progs installed..02:41
featheredfrogokay okay.  IBM TP 600x (pIII, 128M) attempting to boot the live CD (5.04), goes okay until "starting GNOME", where it hangs.  Ideas?02:41
thoreauputicbigfoot: only if you want to know what it is and why it is different from python 2.4.1 :)02:41
bigfootthoreauputic, i did it. Do you want to see the results? Shall i post it in flood?02:42
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Fikrannothernoob, do you have "makeactive" command in your menu.lst?02:42
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thoreauputicbigfoot: no - I thought it might be informative, that's all :)02:42
bigfootokay.02:42
Seveasfeatheredfrog, try switching to other virtual terminals with <alt><f1> to <alt><f7> to see error messages...02:42
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othernoobFikrann yes02:42
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capiapt-get --reintsll is getting me a `E: Invalid operation..'02:42
Fikrannothernoob, remove it and try again.02:43
Seveas--reinstall02:43
othernoobFikrann: the menu.lst looks just like it used to before i uninstalled and reinstalled kubuntu02:43
Seveasand it's apt-get install --reinstall02:43
thoreauputiccapi: um ... " --reinstall "02:43
Seveasplease READ what people type...02:43
featheredfrogseveas:  thanks: good idea (I shulda thunk of that...)02:43
featheredfrogthanks02:43
capiyeah, I know, I just typoed. I was using --reinstall02:43
featheredfrog102:43
thoreauputiccapi: apt-get install --reinstall <package>02:44
Fikrannothernoob, you seem to have annoyingly aggressive bios boot sector protection, then.02:44
thoreauputiccapi: noter the "install"02:44
bigfootWhich files/packages are the "Python Fuse bindings"?02:44
thoreauputic*note02:44
capigot it02:44
othernoobheh Asus board..02:44
Seveasothernoob, (ping) idea!02:45
othernooboO02:45
Seveascomment out all the savedefault lines in /boot/grub/menu.lst02:45
podgeSeveas: Did I say that Perl rocks? :)02:45
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moritahola soy venezolana!!!02:47
Seveasmorita, we speak english in here02:47
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moritaok....02:47
bigfootA Program's instructions tell me that I need to have "python fuse bindings". Is this the python2.3-fuse and python2.4-fuse files?02:47
we2byhola morita02:47
moritawhere are you from?02:47
othernoobSeveas: including the savedefault lines for linux ?02:47
moritahola d dond eres02:48
Fikrannbigfoot, both. Install both and you'll be sure.02:48
Seveasbigfoot, if you want to use python2.4, you need the 2.4-fuse modules, same for 2.302:48
we2bySoy de Europa02:48
we2byy tu?02:48
Seveasothernoob, try it :)02:48
moritaq bien venezolana...02:48
Seveaswe2by, please stick to english or talk in #ubuntu-es02:48
we2bybien, tienes algunas problema con Ubuntu?02:48
we2byok02:48
we2bySeveas, tiene que chatiar en #ubuntu-es, aqio se hablan el ingle solo02:49
thoreauputicbigfoot: this is why I suggested apt-cache show ; quote >> Description: Python bindings for FUSE (Filesystems in USErland)02:49
Seveaswe2by, i do not speak spanish, like most of the people here02:49
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spityanyone knows what's broken on g++ in breezy?02:49
Seveasso please stick to english in here02:49
Seveasspity, ROFL!02:49
we2bySeveas, wrong nick there.02:49
moritabueno si... no puedo escuchar mp3!!!02:50
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spitySeveas: yes?02:50
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mimositahola02:50
Seveasspity, there is a major c++ transition going on...02:50
mosmy mouse no go02:50
Seveasso a lot of c++ things are broken atm02:50
mimositaen espaol02:50
Fikrannspity, nothin, as far as I can tell, it works well for me.02:50
moritaayudame en  eso!!02:50
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mimositaporfavor02:50
spitySeveas: i know, but i wonder about g++ not about libraries02:50
Seveasmimosita/morita #ubuntu-es02:50
othernoobSeveas: gonna try it now02:50
moswheres the config file will allyour driver settings and stuff?02:50
spityFikrann: ok02:50
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Seveasmos /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:50
mosthanks02:51
Seveasmos, serial mouse?02:51
mos:)02:51
mosSeveas, yeah02:51
Fikrannspity, but listdc++ from Breezy is giving problems .. OO.org crashes on it.02:51
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Seveasmos, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:51
bigfooti need to "grab a CVS version" of a file. How do i do that?02:51
Fator_Deeare we going to see some general speed enhancements on programs with breezy?02:51
Seveasmos, skip through all questions until you reach the mouse questions02:51
mosSeveas, thanks02:51
moritai can't listen to mp3...how do do???02:51
moritahelp me!!!02:52
Seveasmake sure mouseport is set to /dev/ttys0 (com1) or /dev/ttys1 (com2)02:52
Seveasmorita: http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/RestrictedFormats02:52
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Fikrannbigfoot, cvs -z3 -d pserver@wherever.com co foobar02:52
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mosSeveas, er how do i tab to the text in xchat???????02:53
spityFikrann: hmm, i've tried building part of KDE's SVN and it seems there are some strange bugs that were not present before transition - like keybindings not working02:53
mosdumm x chat02:53
moritaya t vi luisa!! :-)02:53
Seveasmos, hmm??02:53
mosSeveas, i mean i want to copy paste your words02:53
bigfootFikrann, i need some step-by-step help. Can you help a newbie?02:53
mosSeveas, with no mouse02:53
Seveashmm, good one02:53
bigfootthe webpage's instructions are too technical for me, you see, Fikrann.02:54
moslol02:54
Seveasno idea actually02:54
thoreauputicmos: highlight,, middle mouse button to paste02:54
thoreauputicmos: ah, no mouse, sorry02:54
capiI'm confused, both apt-get remove <deb> && apt-get install <deb> OR apt-get install --reinstall <deb> don't seem to do anything to the package?02:54
mosSeveas, xchats dum as02:54
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mosSeveas, worse than all irc's ive used02:54
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Seveasmos, shall i re-type it in a private message so it will no scroll away?02:54
Fikrannspity, I don't know. Are you certain it's not caused by missing dependency libs?02:54
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mosSeveas, na i can page up02:55
moritaplease, i can't listen mp3.....02:55
Seveasmorita: http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/RestrictedFormats02:55
Seveasread that02:55
RebroadI have a kernel compilation question - is this the right channel to ask it please?02:55
mosSeveas, thanks though02:55
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Fator_Deemos: just click three times in succession to copy the whole line02:55
SeveasRebroad, yes02:55
thoreauputiccapi: if you need to remove the configuration, use apt-get remove --purge <package>02:55
Fikrannbigfoot, if your progam readme does not state how to get things out of cvs, I can't help.02:55
ubermonziehi all fellow Human Linux Users!02:55
FikrannRebroad, fire away.02:55
Fator_Deemos: or 2 times to copy a word02:55
spityFikrann: no, the environment is the same as before the transition began - dependency libs wise02:56
we2bymy damn firefox does not cache webpages02:56
bigfootFikrann, it does, but i don't understand it. 8-(. coz i'm a newbie.02:56
SeveasFator_Dee, with no mouse...?02:56
RebroadSeveas, thanks. Well, I'm wanting to compile the ubuntu linux kernel. I've configured it to use my existing config, so I was expecting the compiled kernel to behave in the exact same way as the kernel it's currently using, but it doesn't. The size is different, I have no initrd.img file, and it's unable to boot!02:56
Fikrann /query me and paste the relevant section, then.02:56
ZambbaSeveas: Yes it boots straight to linux02:56
Zambbasorry for "lag" i was afk02:56
thoreauputicbigfoot: newbie and CVS probably should not appear in the same sentence ;)02:57
RebroadSeveas, it was giving a VFS error I think, when I tried to boot. Kernel panic, unable to mount block 0,0 or something like that.02:57
mimositaen espaollllllllllllllllllllllllll02:57
SeveasRebroad, did you use the ubuntu sources? you should make an initrd manually, without initrd a kernel with modules cannot boot02:57
capithoreauputic: that doesn't seem to do anything either, Some of the packages vital files got removed, and now I'm trying to install the package all over again? What do I use for this?02:57
SeveasZambba, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and increase the timeout02:57
bigfootbut if "thoreauputic" OR "experienced" were added to the sentence, we can get some magic!02:58
Fator_DeeSeveas: well, duh :-|02:58
Fikrannthoreauputic, Well, sometimes newbies need to get their software out of cvs, too.02:58
thoreauputiccapi: how did those files get removed?02:58
RebroadSeveas, I see.. the kernel source package didn't mention how I create the initrd.img file. Do you know how I create this file please?02:58
SeveasRebroad, use make-kpkg to compile the kernel, you can find it in the package: kernel-package02:58
RebroadSeveas,  thanks02:58
Seveasthat will create a .deb fil with your new kernel02:59
Seveasyou can easily install that one02:59
Fikrann:dislikes initrd.02:59
mosFator_Dee, thanks  but i need to do it with the kebord i have no mouse02:59
capithoreauputic: I'm not sure, someone else did it, I believe the rm or shred command02:59
thoreauputiccapi: :(02:59
RebroadSeveas, cool.03:00
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capithoreauputic: I feel the same way, so is there any way to install the package again like it's the first time?03:00
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l0dehey guys03:00
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l0deis ubunto better than dual boot gentoo?03:01
thoreauputiccapi: I don't really know: I've never been in your situation - maybe someone else can help03:01
Fikranncapi, use L command in aptitude.03:01
Fator_Deeubermonzie: no it wouldn't03:01
l0deubermonzie wonders does not make sense in that sentence?03:01
l0deyou are making a declarative statement?03:01
Fator_Deeubermonzie: the size of the cd would rise up03:01
Seveasubermonzie, kubuntu and ubuntu ARE a single distro03:01
Seveasexactly the same packages are available03:01
RebroadSeveas, would you know an easy way to test my new kernel without me having to reboot?!03:01
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Seveasit's just a different set of default packages03:02
Fator_DeeSeveas: he mebbe meant that on the same cd? (misunderstanding?)03:02
SeveasRebroad, no, rebooting is the test03:02
capiFikrann, what do I want to do in aptitude after the L command?03:02
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Fikranncapi, this marks the package for reinstallation.03:02
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sridkeybindings for gnome apps is broken in Ubuntu Breezy!03:02
sridhow to fix this??03:02
RebroadSeveas, I have another PC with no harddisk. could I boot the new kernel via NFS or something on the other PC?03:02
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SeveasRebroad, no idea...03:03
othernoobSeveas: i still got the message "Boot Sector Writing: Virus: Continue Y/N) but could choose Y, and it booted xp03:03
ubermonziebut dear Seveas, are they on two different cds/iso images?03:03
ubermonzieDont you have to download them seperateley..03:03
thoreauputicothernoob: how appropriate! :D03:03
othernooblol03:03
ubermonzieStill does not do the work for me03:03
ubermonzieKDE and GNOME both have their uses03:04
othernooblooks like it screwed the mbr when i installed kubuntu again.03:04
bigfooti tried running cvs, but bash says that the command is not found.03:04
RebroadSeveas, erk.. I'm running make-kpkg and it's recompiling everything again... :-s03:04
Seveasubermonzie, you can download the dvd :)03:04
FikrannRebroad, I'm not sure if setting up tftpd would be exactly the fastest way to test your kernel. Not to mention that the kernel needs to be specially tailored to run via netboot.03:04
ubermonzieI am working on a rural project here..03:04
linuksoHi! I'm trying out xorg composite (drop shadows and transparency), but only transparency works. If I run xcompmgr -c, I have to reboot my computer. Has anyone else experinced this? (nvidia card)03:04
RebroadFikrann, hehe. you're probably right, but it would be nice to have a test environment for my kernel compilations such that it doesn't impinge on my currently running environment.03:05
Seveaswell, it's impossible to put both kubuntu-default and ubuntu-default on 1 cd03:05
ubermonzieand i am trying to tune Ubuntu specifically for rural purposes including regional language support etc03:05
Seveasit's simply too much03:05
ubermonzieYa i kno03:05
ubermonziethe ads should try a 2 cd set instead03:05
FikrannRebroad, grub makes rebooting to new kernels easy03:05
thoreauputicubermonzie: you can install kde on ubuntu with `sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop`03:05
ubermonzieand containing all the multimedia files like libdvdcss etc03:06
ubermonziei know thoreauputic03:06
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ubermonziebut i want to implement a rural soln here03:06
thoreauputicubermonzie: that's not possible ( libdvdcss etc) for legal reasons03:06
ubermonziewhy?03:06
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ubermonziei downloaded it and i am using it now03:07
Fator_Deeubermonzie: they are illegal in some countries03:07
capiFikrann, what exactly is the L command, CTRL-L?03:07
bigfootanybody know of a better alternative to flickr.com? I like flickr.com, but it shrinks images. And if i want to download my pictures from flickr.com, it's not the original file size/quality. What do you all recommend?03:07
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RebroadFikrann, for instance, I'd like to compile and test kernels, while still doing other things, such as web browsing, or downloading Star Wars Episode 3, etc.03:07
ubermonziehow do i know whether it is legal in my country or not: India03:07
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Fator_Deeubermonzie: you'd have to study your countrys legislation (is that the proper word for it :-p)03:08
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ubermonzieI have tried convincing friends to use linux, but nobody here would use an OS that cannot play videos03:08
crimsunubermonzie: check with a councillor in your jurisdiction03:08
ubermonziethanks crimsun and Fator_Dee03:08
Fator_Deeubermonzie: and it's easy to set up ubuntu to play all videos you usually encounter03:09
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UbuntuPenguinAny man for help with iptables?03:09
ubermonzieNo it isnt , Fator_Dee. Ubuntu was not able to play most of my Videos and none of my mp3's by default03:10
ubermonzieMay i help UbuntuPenguin?03:10
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thoreauputicUbuntuPenguin: umm - "man iptables" ?03:10
crimsunubermonzie: there are various restrictions on patented technology in many countries03:10
thoreauputicUbuntuPenguin: did you even try it?03:11
mimositaluisa respondeme03:11
Luisitaque quieres que te diga?03:11
ubermonziehmm03:11
Fator_Deeubermonzie: not by default no, but it takes <15min to set it up to play them03:11
mimositahi please03:11
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mimositaa need youuuuuuuuu03:12
ubermonziethen the point is crimsun, that i will find it very difficult to push through my Ubuntu-Rural project.03:12
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Fator_Deeubermonzie: you could make your own add-on cd with all the packages=03:12
ubermonzieMultimedia is one of the main draws that convince a user to switch from closed source to open source03:12
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ubermonzieI have made that Fator_Dee03:12
ubermonzieNow i am currently trying to fit all of that on a single cd03:13
son_of_jdwhat is breezy?03:13
ubermonzieremoving sendmail, postfix etc..03:13
Fator_Deebut it's just not possible on canonical's side, ubuntu can't be illegal to be distributable03:13
ubermonziebreezy is the new Ubuntu release son_of_jd03:13
son_of_jdoh03:13
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ubermonziethe guys aere still working on it03:14
son_of_jdoh03:14
capinope, aptitude didn't do a thing either. :\03:14
ubermonziebut i have check if it's legal from my side.. Fator_Dee03:14
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thoreauputicubermonzie: someone tried to distribute a CD with all extras, but had to stop03:15
RebroadSeveas, thanks for your help. I've now installed the deb package it created, but it doesn't appear to have created an additional initrd.img file...03:15
dr_willisthoreauputic,  you mean that ubuntu add-on cd?03:16
Fator_Deethoreauputic: I think it was the ubuntuguide guy, but I don't think that ubermonzie is going to distribute it over the internet03:16
thoreauputicdr_willis: yes03:16
dr_willisthoreauputic,  heh - its handy :P03:16
ubermonzieHoary is one of the cleanest, smallest Linuxes around, but from my point of view.. it needs some major changes to be successfull in Linux-Crazy India03:16
thoreauputicFator_Dee: quite so - for local use he may not have any problems03:16
AquarionAnyone got Fuse working on ubuntu?03:17
Fator_Deethoreauputic: and no one has to know (don't get caught :-p)03:17
ubermonziebut thoreauputic, if i put it up on a site hosted in India (assuming its legal here)....03:17
thoreauputicubermonzie: unfortunately, some of the things you want from ubuntu are not currently possible03:17
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alexmacyhi03:18
Fator_Deethoreauputic: but I think there are a lot of able programmers on India :-)03:18
ubermonzieand someone from say , the US downloads it, it's not my fault, isnt it?03:18
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ubermonziewhy thoreauputic?03:18
ubermonziei am an RHCE thoreauputic!03:18
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Fator_Deeubermonzie: yes it's their fault, atleast I have undestood so03:18
thoreauputicubermonzie: I think you would still run into issues with mp3 etc ( but I am not a lawyer) :)03:18
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ubermonziehmm03:18
dr_willisgo ask ebay about all these 'its not our fault' lawsuits. :P03:19
ubermonziesay..some freaky russian sites?03:19
Fator_Deeubermonzie: but you would just have to be very carefull on what you are going to put to be downloaded to be safe03:19
thoreauputicubermonzie: I didn't mean you couldn't do things :) Just that Canonical have legal stuff to worry about...03:19
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ubermonziei want a one-cd linux for poor people, most of whom will be using the computer for the first time03:20
ubermonzieand most of them dont know english03:20
ubermonzieso that's why i was asking som many ques...03:20
Rebroadubermonize: you'd need a notice on your sight informing people that it may be illegal for them to download it, and that it's up to them to ensure it is legal before clicking on download.03:20
moritai come back..03:20
Fator_Deequite a project to translate all of ubuntu :-o03:21
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ubermonziethanks Rebroad, but i plan on burining and distrubuting the cd's freely first03:21
thoreauputicubermonzie: what you are doing sounds great by the way : I wish you well !03:21
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jansenanyone freei wanna compile the kernel but some errors!03:22
ubermonziethanks thoreauputic, i will probably use GNOME... but i guess XFCE is the better choice03:22
Fator_Deeubermonzie: maybe you could ask some information from canonical or some ubuntu developers directly?03:22
ubermonzie#linux is better for this dear jansen03:22
thoreauputicubermonzie: Xfce is smaller, I guess - and better on old machines03:22
ubermonzieya .... i know thoreauputic03:22
thoreauputicubermonzie: or icewm maybe?03:22
jansenubermonzie i'm using the ubuntu03:23
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ubermonziei thought most of you people were developers of Ubuntu, dear, Fator_Dee.03:23
thoreauputicubermonzie: I know you know :) Just agreeing03:23
ubermonzie:-)03:23
Fator_Deeubermonzie: no, not at all, atleast I'm not :-D03:23
jansenubermonzie linux :That channel doesn't exist03:23
thoreauputicubermonzie: no, this is the help channel03:23
UbuntuPenguinthoreauputic: i reading man pages and tutorials and not work ;-(( from morning...03:23
Fator_Deeubermonzie: I just like to hang out in here and help people if I can03:23
ubermonzieit does dear03:23
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thoreauputicjansen: there is a developers channel03:24
ubermonzieI too like helping people.. but at a more grassroots level.03:24
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Fikrannubermonzie, I'd suggest Gnome + Openbox instead of metacity.03:24
ubermonziein a poor but rapidly developing like india,,, its important to use OpenSource03:25
thoreauputicubermonzie: if you are a developer, have you tried the developers mailing list?03:25
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jansenthoreauputic that channel not exist!03:25
ubermonzieOpenBox.. will surely try it.. thanks Fikrann03:25
ubermonzieno .. thoreauputic03:25
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UbuntuPenguinubermonzie, have you time for my for helping with iptables?03:25
thoreauputicjansen: I'm sorry to contradict you yet again, but I'm in it right now03:25
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ubermonziethis is the first time i am discussing it03:25
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medkitwhat is the default passphrase for cups on localhost? It does not accept my usual account?03:26
ubermonziei was fiddlng with it all alone!03:26
luxo_fikrann: what do you think abot fluxbox with gnome-panel?03:26
thoreauputicjansen: #ubuntu-devel on this server03:26
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Fikrannmedkit, it needs your root password.03:26
medkitit has got it, but does not accept it03:27
jansenthoreauputic thx03:27
thoreauputicubermonzie: there is also a users mailing list with quite a few knowledgeable people03:27
ubermonzieIts tough dealing with customized distributions,, especially on a slow computer like mine03:27
Fikrannluxo_, I have used such configuration, but gnome-panel by itself is just useless .. I prefer gdesklet for that.03:27
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ubermonziewill surely join it. thanks thoreauputic.. i just thought irc would be a better bet..03:28
ubermonziei am too impatient to wait for mails!03:28
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thoreauputicubermonzie: you're welcome any time, of course !03:28
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vladimirany one here have tried to set up a 1280x854 display? I've treid editing xorg.conf and no luck at all03:29
ubermonzieI may end up using KDE (against my wishes).. as it has really good local lang support03:29
thoreauputicubermonzie: the response time on the users mailing list is quite fast: it's a high traffic list03:29
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dooglussomeone sent me some word documents to proof-read and correct.03:29
ubermonziethere is an indian Linux project and they have converted the ENTIRE kde 3.3 to various local languages!03:29
dooglusI thought I'd use open office03:29
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ubermonzieuse it dooglus03:29
dooglusis there "revision control" in openoffice?03:29
thoreauputicubermonzie: great stuff !03:30
ubermonzieits the best03:30
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UbuntuPenguinubermonzie, is you here?03:30
dooglusyou know in ms-word, how when you make a change, it shows up as a change, so the author can see what you changed03:30
doogluscan I do that in openoffice?03:30
ubermonzieya i am here UbuntuPenguin03:30
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ubermonzieya its there dooglus03:30
dooglusubermonzie: how do you switch it on?03:30
ubermonziejust a min... dooglus03:31
dooglusin word theres a small word "REV" at the bottom of the screen03:31
IcemanV9dooglus: flip the switch!! :P03:31
rekavladimir, you need to put the 1280 resolution first in the list of resolutions (i.e. leftmost).03:31
Fikranndooglus, I believe you will get your answer quicker if you ask on #openoffice.org03:31
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UbuntuPenguinubermonzie: i have problem with redirecting 80 port from server in internal network to 81 port on my gateway and my iptables not working. ;(((03:31
medkitWhat can i do if cups on localhost does not accept my password. I am absolutely positively sure that the passphrase is correct. I have mounted a device 1 minute before with that passphrase. I tried "cups", "admin" and my username.03:32
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vladimiryeah, i've tried that, 1280x854 is the only resolution on the list03:32
pfpubermonzie: altough i've read that india is about to allow s/w patents :/ -- http://swpat.ffii.org/log/04/nath12/index.en.html03:32
ubermonziethanks pfp... support is the most imp reward of any developer03:32
dooglusFikrann: we'll see03:32
dr_willismedkit,  dosent it want 'root' as the username?03:32
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ubermonzieya.. sadly yes pfp03:32
St0n3-C0lanyone using i810 here?03:32
medkitdr_willis, i'll try03:33
ubermonzieask in openoffice room. dear dooglus03:33
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dooglusubermonzie: I did03:33
Fikrannvladimir, you need an extra modeline in xorg.conf so your server will know the hardware is capable of unstandard resolution.03:33
rekavladimir: then your refresh rates are wrong.  google for "resolution fix ubuntu"03:33
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pfpit's a bit hard to understand, since at the same time India's government seems to be promoting linux & OSS03:34
ubermonziebut at the same time Open source is being adopted by all state goverment to do their E-Gov things03:34
Sauron21hi...I was wonderinf in anyone could tell me why my network interface returns to eth0 everytime I change it to wlan with ifrename.......??03:34
ubermonzieand also there are hundred of linux volunteer orgainizations here pfp03:34
medkitdr_willis, no go with root. Anything else i can try?03:34
pfpcool03:34
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ubermonziei am in one of them03:34
dooglusubermonzie: for the record you do: edit -> changes -> record changes03:35
ubermonziecheck our linuxbangalore.org pfp03:35
ubermonziethanks dooglus03:35
St0n3-C0lahan indian03:35
spanglesontoasthow can I mount an iso as a disk?03:35
St0n3-C0l:P03:35
dr_willismedkit,  could be i always give root a password for more normal logins.. may want to check the cups.org site and docs. Ive had Little if any problems with cups.03:35
ubermonzieyes St0n3-C0l03:35
St0n3-C0lm paki :-D03:35
pfpubermonzie: hmm, site not found03:35
ubermonzieyou have to mount it as loopback filesystem dear spanglesontoast03:36
MistaEDhey has anyone tried to make ubuntu use a bootsplash?03:36
Fator_Deespanglesontoast: sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 /path/to/isofile /media/iso03:36
St0n3-C0lanyone here with i810 ??03:36
spanglesontoastah03:36
dr_willisMistaED,  ive heard of people TRYING.. :P but thats it..03:36
spanglesontoastis it a normal process?03:36
St0n3-C0lnot yet MistaED03:36
Fator_Deespanglesontoast: and make sure you have that /media/iso directory created03:36
MistaEDtrying, and no replies back? lol03:36
dooglusin openoffice, when I hit a cursor key, the cursor moves, as expected, but it takes about 3 seconds to do it.03:36
St0n3-C0li think u shud check wiki.ubuntu.com Artwork03:36
ubermonzieits http://linux-bangalore.org/ dear pfp03:36
dooglusanyone else seeing that?03:36
Fator_Deespanglesontoast: or if you wnat to mount it to elsewhere, just point it to that directory03:36
dr_willisdooglus,  nope - works good for me.03:37
spanglesontoastah ok03:37
ubermonziedepends on your oo build dooglus03:37
dooglusubermonzie: I'm using hoary03:37
luxo_MistaED: i boot it only once a time and i want to see everything is [ok]  :)03:37
ubermonziethe Debian build is better than the  others dooglus03:37
ubermonzieyou must be having slow hardware then dooglus03:38
dooglusubermonzie: does hoary come with a debian build?03:38
dooglusubermonzie: I don't think so.03:38
ubermonziebye guys ... i gotta go!03:38
ubermonziesee ya later03:38
thoreauputicbye ubermonzie03:38
Fator_Deebye03:38
dooglusubermonzie: everything else reacts immediately, and the CPU is contantly very near idle.03:38
MistaEDa good looking bootup is nice though, with some verbose still03:38
MistaEDa progress bar is just crap03:38
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medkitdr_willis, i overlooked a nice reminder on top of the http://localhost:631/ page: adminstrative commands are disabled from webbrowser for security reasons. Please use GNOME CUPS Manager. I never managed a printer get to work with the gnome panel. But surely with CUPS webfrontend.03:39
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dr_willismedkit,  Lol. :P  I edited the cups config to enable the webbrowser feature.03:40
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dr_willismedkit,  Ubuntu Security paranoia. :P and thats a good thing I guess.03:40
dooglusare there any tools in ubuntu to see why an app might be running slow?03:40
dooglusI know about 'top' (that shows that the cpu is idle)03:40
roshlameanyone ever started mplayer on an ubuntu system?03:40
doogluswhat else could it be, if not a cpu bottleneck?03:40
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dr_willismplayer works good here.03:41
MistaEDthere's system monitor, dooglus03:41
pfpdooglus: 'vmstat 1' on a terminal03:41
MistaEDi think in applications > something > system monitor03:41
dooglusthanks guys.03:41
medkitdr_willis, please tell me where the cups config resides and i'll be happy ever after03:41
dooglussystem monitor shows me the same as top, along with memory usage?03:41
roshlameI get no movie window and i get no sound unless i kill esd03:42
Fator_Deemedkit: /etc/cups/ ?03:42
dr_willismedkit,  heh /etc/cups/ I think :P the logical place.03:42
medkit*pat*03:42
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dr_willismedkit,  cups is very well documented at their homepage.  :P03:42
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pfproshlame: use esd as your output method (-ao esd)03:42
medkitdr_willis, right, thanx, sure, a blockade of mine03:42
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pfproshlame: or better yet, use totem-xine and some plugins03:42
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doogluspfp: wow, thanks!  vmstat 1 fixed it!  you're some kind of magician :)03:43
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rekajust to confirm, w32codecs is no longer in the repos right?03:43
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dr_willismedkit,  i think its in the cupsd.conf - and i have a line like -->  Listen 127.0.0.1:63103:44
Fator_Deereka: has it been at some time?03:44
thoreauputicreka: was it ever? I thought only marillat and such had it?03:44
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Fator_Deereka: I don't remember it ever been on ubuntus repos03:44
roshlamepfp, thanks03:44
pfpdooglus: heh, no prob :)03:44
rekathoreauputic: ah, my mistake.  that's probably it. :-)03:44
St0n3-C0lanyone using i810 :(03:44
St0n3-C0l3d acceleration not workin03:44
Fator_Deereka: only in marillat and backports (remember to edit them out after you used them!)03:45
doogluspfp: very odd.  it was really slow - a 3 second response time just to move the cursor in oo.org.  now it's fine!03:45
dr_willisheh an i810 aint got much 3d to accell anyway. :P03:45
St0n3-C0llol03:45
St0n3-C0lbut still on other distros03:45
St0n3-C0lCSmash was working perfect !03:45
rekaFator_Dee: yep, i commented marillat out.  thanks.03:45
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St0n3-C0lon ubuntu it's hanging alot03:45
St0n3-C0lno direct rendering03:45
binoI can't burn cd in Ubuntu. whenever I insert a blank cd and try to open it, a "Mount Error" dialog displays. I don't know why.03:46
dr_willisa blank cd cant be mounted. since theres no file system.03:46
pfpdooglus: maybe some high disk i/o? that usually slows my system down03:46
Fator_Deebino: open the cd-burner from nautilus03:47
dr_willisi was thinking hwoever that gnome poped up some burning cd tool when ever i put in a blank cd.. (which was annoying) :P03:47
St0n3-C0lbino: mount is not required to burn a cd03:47
Fator_Deebino: or use graveman or gnomebaker, or some other program03:47
St0n3-C0lcd-burner is annoying :P03:47
moritahello i can't listen to mp3...help03:47
pfpshould probably tune somehthing in the (2.6.x) kernel03:47
St0n3-C0lI once inserted the cd and it's continiously saying "Please insert the CD and Press OKAY" and in gnomebaker..it worked perfectly03:47
doogluspfp: nope, no disk IO at all.  it's not even swapping yet.03:48
dr_willisalso i recall that for SOME reason 'dma' was disabled on my cdburner by default.. i had to  enable it.03:48
rekamorita: what program?03:48
thoreauputicmorita: install gstreamer0.8-mad from universe repo and use rhythmbox (music player)03:48
doogluspfp: that's not the first time I've seen it - firefox sometimes misbehaves too03:48
pfpdooglus: so it got fixed just by running vmstat?03:48
binoFator_Dee, when I click the "Add files" in GnomeBaker, nothing happens, why?03:48
doogluspfp: almost certainly not.  but it got fixed at the same time as I ran vmstat.03:48
St0n3-C0lbino: Try graveman03:49
dr_willismorita,  check the ubuntu faq/wiki - they tell more details on this issue, if you want. :P03:49
doogluspfp: and it's still fixed now that I've stopped running vmstat03:49
Fikrannbino, or k3b03:49
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nihaocan't download http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports/dists/hoary-backports/main/ binary-i386/Packages.gz  401 Authorization Required03:49
binoOK.03:49
Fator_Deebino: have you selected the files to add?03:49
m0r0nI often get the message "Could not open vfs file" when attempting to play a stream from shoutcast. Any idea how to fix it?03:49
dooglusdoes gnome have any way of showing "most used applications" in the start menu, like kde does?03:49
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nihao?? backports don't work today??? but ping the site works03:49
pfpdooglus: it's known as "treatment by light" - open the hood, and problem disappears :)03:50
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St0n3-C0lnihao: use other mirrors03:50
binoFator_Dee, thank you.03:50
Fator_Deepfp: the little gremlins are afraid of the light and they go away :-)03:50
Fikrannnihao, use backports mirror03:50
doogluspfp: I've seen the same phenomenum lots of times when debugging software...  run a buggy app inside the debugger and the bug goes away.  run it normally and the bug comes back03:50
St0n3-C0lI also noticed this problem and it was giving '403 Forbidden' error to me03:50
binoFator_Dee, I thought I should click "Add files" first. : )03:51
Fator_Deebino: :-)03:51
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pfpFator_Dee: jep:)03:51
nihaoOK, I will try.03:51
thoreauputicbackports has been having bandwidth issues, I believe03:51
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dooglusthoreauputic: why?03:52
pfpsome sites make firefox use all CPU time w/ their mere existence... eg. mininova.org IIRC03:52
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medkitdr_willis, browsing right now through cupsd.conf. But i don't want to edit the listenig port, i want to enable doing administrative tasks  over browser03:53
thoreauputicdooglus: versioning problems, broken updates etc03:53
pfpthat would show up in top though03:53
thoreauputicdooglus: much grief for many when they upgraded to Hoary03:53
dr_willismedkit,  i think they disabled the listening. :P is how they disabled it.. not sure really - been a few mo since i messed with it.03:53
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Fikrannmedkit, the gnome cups tool worked quite well for me.03:54
dooglusthoreauputic: I never tried it, was interested to hear why you don't recommend it.  thanks.03:55
dooglusthoreauputic: what *would* you recommend as a temporary source to get, say, win32 codecs?03:55
MistaEDdoes anyone know why esd/arts/whatever has a sound cpu overload and a way to stop it?03:55
dooglusMistaED: I stoped using esd.  I used alsa instead.03:55
Fator_Deedooglus: marillat?03:55
thoreauputicdooglus: I used marillat testing - but I commented it out right away after I got the codecs03:56
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rekadooglus: i'm contemplating using the mplayer codecs instead.03:56
daushhello03:56
MistaEDdooglus: yeah i set it to use alsa in the control center, but i still get the errors03:56
daush^4 question03:56
medkitFikrann, lucky you. I have tried the panel on various debian version but it NEVER ever worked.03:56
Fator_Deethoreauputic: or you can fetch it directly from the site :-p03:56
daushINSTALL ubuntu and they not reconize my MOuse!!!!!!!!!!03:56
Fator_Deejust browse through, no biggie :-)03:56
thoreauputicFator_Dee: yes, ideed03:56
thoreauputic*indeed03:56
daushINSTALL ubuntu and they not reconize my MOuse!!!!!!!!!! what i have to do?03:56
dooglusreka: I downloaded the mplayer codecs, but I don't know how to get mplayer to use them03:56
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thoreauputicdaush: first, calm down03:57
moritayou should unload upda!!!te03:57
Fator_Deedooglus: just install them, mplayer should find 'em03:57
daushoka03:57
daush:D03:57
moritayou should unload update!!!03:57
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rekadooglus: hmm. can't help you with that i'm afraid.  i use the underrated totem :-)03:57
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Fator_Deedooglus: or what do you mean with "mplayer codecs?"03:58
Fator_Deedooglus: can you give me an url?03:58
rekaFator_Dee: http://www4.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/codecs.html03:58
dooglusFator_Dee: http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/all-20050412.tar.bz203:59
GaZZooI don't understand why VLC wan't the default player ... I seared all around trying to make the others be able to play divx , xvid etc .. and VLC JUST WORKS ... right out of the box ...03:59
rekarelated link: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingCodecsToTotemHowTo03:59
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Fator_Deeoh those, aren't they just the same that come in w32codecs, just put them in where the w32codecs package would put them03:59
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Fator_DeeI think it's /usr/lib/win32/04:00
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thoreauputicdooglus: I think they should live in /usr/lib/win32 as Fator_Dee says04:00
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thoreauputicFator_Dee: yes, dpkg -L w32codecs confirms that04:01
Fator_Dee(yes, and I checked it before with locate win32 :-p)04:01
dooglusthoreauputic: oh, ok04:01
thoreauputicFator_Dee: :)04:02
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daushhey ubuntu don works with mouse that jas the jack oldest then ps2?04:02
ShinakuUh ok, helping a friend install Ubuntu on his box04:02
Shinakuand it's locked up at "testing network repositories"04:02
pfpdooglus: i dont know if someone already pasted this, but http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs04:02
Shinakuwhich is something I've never encounted even though I've installed Ubuntu about 50 times04:02
ShinakuAny idea why it's doing this?04:03
Fator_Deedaush: you propably have to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to properly match your mouse, or try to do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and see if that finds your mouse04:03
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thoreauputicpfp: the devs are working with the author to correct some errors, I think04:04
dooglusthoreauputic: that worked - I made a new directory /usr/lib/win32 and moved them all in there04:04
rekaShinaku: you sure it's locked up?  how long have you waited?  iirc someone else waited for ~15mins.  it started up again and everything went fine after that.04:04
daushoka!!! its like japanese ! :D... ._. will try better a mouse usb when  money rain.04:04
thoreauputicdooglus: aha ! :D04:04
ShinakuIt's been like that for about 15 mins04:04
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doogluspfp: that ubuntuguide site suggests getting the codecs from backports04:05
Shinakuoh, it's just jumped up to 75%04:05
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doogluspfp: and apparently that's not a good idea04:05
rekaShinaku: :-) told you!04:05
Shinakuhehe04:05
pfpdooglus: why not?04:05
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ShinakuThis wont affect how it runs, will it?04:05
thoreauputicdooglus: amongst other things, ...04:05
Fator_DeeShinaku: nope04:05
Shinakuoh good04:05
doogluspfp: scroll up - thoreauputic says why not04:05
Shinakusome kind of glitch then?04:05
dr_willisheh - ive been tyring to 'breakubuntu' - and ist survived my attempts so far.04:05
dr_willis:P04:05
Myrttibackports are teh iivil04:05
Fator_DeeShinaku: prolly just a feature :-p04:06
Shinakuhaha04:06
Fator_DeeShinaku: or not04:06
thoreauputicpfp: backports can cause problems/conflicts with updates04:06
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dooglusI have one big giant massive problem left with ubuntu that stops me using it instead of windows04:06
Shinakulets you drink some coffee04:06
Seveasdr_willis, try combining breezy & backports04:06
Seveasthat'llbreak it :)(04:06
dooglusmy internet connection goes down if I download stuff and move the mouse at the same time.04:06
Fator_Deedooglus: you still have windows installed?04:06
Fator_Deeeh04:06
dooglusFator_Dee: I have to.  It's the only OS I've found that works on this PC04:06
Fator_Deesome irq problem perhaps?04:06
dooglusFator_Dee: yes, no doubt.04:06
pfpthoreauputic: oh... i must have had luck then, heh04:07
dr_willisSeveas,  everyone says 'dont even LOOK at breezy " :P04:07
dooglusIRQ 10 and 11 both seem 'overloaded':04:07
dooglus 10:      87931          XT-PIC  yenta, eth0, ohci_hcd, ehci_hcd04:07
dooglus 11:     370695          XT-PIC  ohci_hcd, ohci_hcd, SiS SI701204:07
Fator_Deedooglus: a friend of mine had a similar problem, I could ask him what he did04:07
thoreauputicpfp: yes, some people have got away with it ;-)04:07
dooglusFator_Dee: I'd love to find a solution for the problem.04:07
dooglusFator_Dee: I had the same problem on Mandrake, Mandriva and debian too.04:07
doogluswith kernel 2.2, with 2.4 and with 2.604:08
ShinakuMandriva04:08
dooglusI think 'yenta' and 'eth0' are clashing on IRQ 1004:08
Fator_Deedooglus: he seems to be quite dead at the moment, but I think I can catch him in todays time :-p04:08
Shinakuis that the exact same as Mandrake 10.1?04:08
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thoreauputicdooglus: funny that SiS7012 is on irq 11 _ I think mine is on 1804:08
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dooglusthoreauputic: that's the sound card, right?04:08
thoreauputicdooglus: yes04:09
dooglusthoreauputic: do "cat /proc/interrupts" to see the IRQs04:09
Fator_Deedooglus: you could try to change the cards places on the mobo04:09
rekaGaZZoo: do you seriously recommend vlc?  what is the interface like?04:09
dooglusFator_Dee: it's a laptop - it's all SiS stuff, and not swappable04:09
Fator_Dee:-p04:09
Fator_Deeswap it with a hammer04:09
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thoreauputicdooglus: 18:    3690083   IO-APIC-level  SiS SI701204:10
Fator_Deeteach 'im to behave04:10
dooglusI tried 28 different combinations of kernel parameters yesterday to see if I could get it to use different IRQs.  I couldn't.  :(04:10
dooglusFator_Dee: hit laurence with a hammer?  I couldn't!04:10
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Fator_Deedooglus: do you have an usb mouse perhaps?04:14
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enriquehi04:15
ShinakuHello.04:15
enriquecan somebody help me editing GRUB so that I can change the default OS to boot?04:15
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rekaenrique: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst04:16
pfpenrique: look for a line 'default         0', chaneg the number04:16
pfpchange*04:16
reka0 being the first listed, 1 being the next, and so on04:17
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enriqueno idea?04:18
Seveasenrique, reka and pfp just said it...04:18
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enriquewhere do i look the number i need to change it to?04:20
enriqueyes04:20
enriquei mean...04:20
enriquehow do I know which number to change it for?04:20
Fator_Deeenrique: reka said it04:20
Fator_Dee< reka> 0 being the first listed, 1 being the next, and so on04:20
Fator_Deeyou change the number to that which you want to be booted by default04:21
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desplesdahi, i've just installed php4 and whenever i browse to localhost/whatever/ , which has an index.php, apache sends me the php file as a download04:22
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rekaenrique: see how each boot option is grouped in lines?  look at the titles.04:22
desplesdabrowsing to /whatever/index.php executes it normally04:22
dos000hi, i am trying to ssh into multiple boxes using ssh tunnels. the problem is since they are all mapped to localhost ssh borks thinnking it is a new server ! is there a way around this problem ?04:22
desplesdaany idea what's going on?04:22
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cainehow to do change the default user for my internet?04:25
ShinakuO04:25
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phenddesplesda, in your httpd.conf file, there's a way of setting index.php files to be executed like index.html files04:25
rekados000: you might get a better response in #linux04:25
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cainelast night it said that my internet was already in use by the default user and basically in order to open up any pages i would have to create a new name so i did but i dont know where to go to change the name back04:26
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caineits not my computer log in its the internets04:27
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desplesdaphend: any idea what it is? grepping apache2.conf for php just turns up the DirectoryIndex directive04:27
Einhoernchenwell is a seen bot in here?04:27
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phenddesplesda, the DirectoryIndex directive04:28
phendoh04:28
phendhang on04:28
Einhoernchen!seen mindspin04:28
caineoh and how do i figure out why my firefox keeps crashing when i go to certain sites?04:28
rekacaine: you mean it's your browser?  it's saying something about profiles right?04:28
Einhoernchenlol04:28
caineyes! thats it reka04:28
phenddesplesda, i thought that was it. hmm04:28
cainewhere do i go to change that stuff04:28
roshlameSynaptic does not seem to find totem-xine04:29
Einhoernchenwell can anybody tell me how i've to install a *.deb file?04:29
Fator_DeeEinhoernchen: sudo dpkg -i debfile.deb04:29
roshlameWill it be possible to use the package on the debian webside?04:29
EinhoernchenFator_Dee, with kynaptic now or ?04:29
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djpis it possible to implement irda under ubuntu or will i need hardware to use it?04:29
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thoreauputicroshlame: I think totem-xine is in the universe repo04:29
roshlamerepo?04:30
Fator_DeeEinhoernchen: if you have a file in your harddrive you install it like that, or you can search the repository for it04:30
SysFailmine found it rosh04:30
Fator_DeeEinhoernchen: and that is a commandline command04:30
thoreauputicroshlame: and please don't mix debian packages with ubuntu ones04:30
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pfproshlame: repository04:30
rekacaine: try this: type about:config in the url bar04:30
[Spooky] isnt the cdfs iso9660 ?04:30
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caineok h/o04:30
SysFailsays its in backports for some reason04:30
rekacaine: then in the filter, type "profile" (w/o quotes)04:30
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caineok04:31
rekacaine: double click on the "managae_only_at_launch" and set it to true.04:31
cainek04:31
rekai.e. type "true" (w/o quotes)04:31
rekaclose and restart04:32
caineit did it on its own04:32
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cainewhen i dbl clicked it04:32
cainerestart linnux or firefow04:32
roshlameSo you say I can't use it?04:32
caine*fox04:32
rekaok04:32
rekaclose and restart04:32
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SysFailyou can use it...add backports and univers to your repo list04:32
caine*linux04:32
rekafirefox04:32
cainek04:32
pfproshlame: have you added universe or backports to your /etc/apt/sources.list ?04:32
cainenothing happend04:33
thoreauputicroshlame: edit your sources ( /etc/apt/sources.list) and uncomment the universe lines04:33
djpis it possible to implement irda under ubuntu or will i need hardware to use it?04:33
caineit just opened up my home page like normal04:33
roshlameNo I haven't04:33
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roshlameOkay, thank you.04:33
thoreauputicroshlame: then sudo apt-get update, install totem-xine04:33
rekacaine: google for "firefox profiles"04:33
cainek04:33
dr_willisHmm irda - is the infrared stuff isent it. :P how do ya do that without hardware?04:33
thoreauputicroshlame: don't add backports, by the way04:33
cainewow that was easier to find then everything else lol04:34
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SysFailI haven;t had a problem with backports04:34
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roshlameI probably won't because I do not know what does backport mean ;)04:34
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rekacaine: sorry, i use mozilla, and although they're almost identical, i haven't run into problems with the profiles.  (i noticed it usually comes up when i try to run another mozilla product at the same time)04:34
thoreauputicSysFail: many people have, believe me04:34
SysFailk04:34
SysFailI even did xchat and gaim last night04:35
rekacaine: you found something?04:35
caineyeah i found something04:35
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cainewell im running mozilla also04:35
Echelon-Hwhat's the command to reboot?04:35
desplesdaEchelon-H: sudo reboot :)04:35
thoreauputicSysFail: the problems were/are mainly when people do dist-upgrade to Hoary from Warty04:35
cainebut what i just found i think is only for windows04:35
SysFailyeah that makes more sense... I did a fresh install04:36
rekacaine: well, if you're using mozilla, you just do tools->switch profile04:36
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thoreauputicSysFail: but if you look at some of the versioning on backports packages.. ugly as sin04:36
caineits not there...04:37
SysFailyeah I pick and choose the ones I use... I wanted the newest xchat and gaim and stuff ...but I dont upgrade lib files and stuff like that04:37
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rekacaine: ok.  i'm confused.  are you using mozilla or firefox.  nb: they are *not* the same thing.04:37
rekamaybe i should say mozilla-browser04:38
pfphmm, i did dist-upgrade to hoary w/ backports...04:38
caineit says mozilla firefox at the top...04:38
thoreauputicSysFail: as with most things, it's OK for those who have an idea what they are doing04:38
SysFailvery true man04:38
SysFailI checked it again...theres a version of his program in universe04:38
rekacaine: then i'm not sure. sorry04:39
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SysFail.9 or something...backports has 1.1 or something04:39
rekai'm not a firefox expert04:39
thoreauputicpfp: not everybody had problems, true04:39
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echobucketall of the sudden I'm getting a 401 from backports.ubuntuforums.org when apt-get updating..04:39
rekaSysFail: do you know how to compile from source?04:39
SysFailI get that sometimes too echo04:39
cainereka: its ok04:39
SysFailyeah reka04:40
cainereka: thanks for your help anyway04:40
Subexanyone can help me, how to install my new webcam in my ubuntu box04:40
SysFailI wish my webcam worked in linux04:40
SysFailheh04:40
ShinakuDoes Ubuntu come with the SSHD running by default?04:40
rekaSysFail: well, that's an alternative to possibly breaking the system with backports.  but that's just my opinion04:40
thoreauputicShinaku: no04:40
rekacaine: sure.  sorry i couldn't help more.04:40
thoreauputicShinaku: sudo apt-get install openssh-server04:40
Shinakuok04:41
Subexso, my webcan useless in ubuntu?04:41
SysFailyeah I just compiled that gtk-engine-qt thing yesterday04:41
Shinakuso I am sat here looking at an Ubuntu box iver a webcam04:41
Shinakubut I can't actully do anything04:41
echobuckethttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3564104:41
Subexoh04:41
echobucketInfo about backports 401 error ^^^^^^^^04:41
cainereka: its ok04:41
SysFailsome work...some dont Subex04:41
SysFailmine doesnt04:41
SysFailit's some intel webcam04:41
cainereka: maybe you can still help04:41
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cainereka: your using ubuntu am i right?04:42
echobucketsomeone should probably put that in the topic here, in case other folks ask.04:42
Subexoh. . i see04:42
rekacaine: yes :-)04:42
cainereka: http://www.mozilla.org/support/firefox/profile#new04:42
SysFailwish there was a way to use windows drivers for webcams04:42
Subexthanks for help me guys04:42
cainetell me how to make that work04:43
thoreauputicechobucket: th eops don't want to encourage the use of backports :)04:43
SysFailthat'd be sweet04:43
thoreauputic*the ops04:43
cainereka: look for the linux instructions in the 2nd paragraph04:43
echobucketthoreauputic, ah.04:43
echobucketthoreauputic, understandable ;)04:43
rekaok hang on, loading.  i'm only on dialup ATM and i'm downloading some codecs. :-)04:44
SysFailthey still make dialup?04:44
cainereka: lol its ok04:44
SysFailheh04:44
cainesysfail: isnt it sad04:44
thoreauputicechobucket: same thing with http://ubuntuguide.org I think04:44
cainereka: no offense04:44
rekabastards04:45
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rekalol04:45
cainelol04:45
thoreauputicSysFail: much of the world is still on dialup, actually04:45
SysFailhahaha04:45
SysFaili know thor...was giving him a hard time04:45
thoreauputic:)04:45
SysFailinsulting his manhood for being on dialup04:45
SysFaillol04:45
cainelol04:45
rekacaine: what am i supposed to be looking at? which paragraph?04:46
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cainereka: Create a new profile04:46
cainereka: then where it says "On Linux or Mac..."04:46
rekaok.04:46
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rekayep04:47
cainereka: im guessing i have to do this in terminal04:47
cainereka: but when i did nothing happend04:47
rekacaine: if you have a shortcut on your panel you can edit the command.04:48
rekacaine: are you in the forefox directory?04:48
reka*firefox04:48
caineno04:48
cainereka: idk how to get there04:48
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rekacaine: type this: which firefox04:49
rekathen cd to that directory04:49
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cainecaine@Caine:~$ cd /usr/bin/firefox bash: cd: /usr/bin/firefox: Not a directory04:50
cainethats what i get when i try to cd04:50
ys76caine: Try cd /usr/bin04:51
rekacaine: ah, whoops.  type : cd /usr/bin04:51
rekathe 'which' command tells you the path to the executable, sorry04:51
caineoh i know04:51
cainethats how i got the path to cd04:51
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caineok now im in usr/bin04:51
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cainenow what04:52
_kevinthere is a linux project for writing to NTFS --> http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/04:52
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_kevinhow can i get this on Ubuntu04:52
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rekatype ./firefox -profilemanager like it says04:52
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thoreauputic_kevin: you can't, directly: it's still experimental04:52
rekacaine: what desktop environment are you using? gnome?04:52
cainecaine@Caine:/usr/bin$ /firefox -profilemanager bash: /firefox: No such file or directory04:53
caineummm04:53
cainehavnt the slightest clue04:53
OConnorco caine04:53
cainei believe do04:53
lokit's a joke ?04:53
lokis it *04:53
thoreauputicdot slash, caine04:53
caine?04:54
rekacaine: it's probably gnome.  ah, don't worry anyway b/c i'm guessing you only need to do this one-off.  i was going to suggest creating a panel shortcut04:54
rekacaine: ./firefox not /firefox04:54
Fator_Deecaine: if you are in the directory where the executable is, you ned to command ./executable04:54
m0r0nHow do I check if dma is enabled04:54
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OConnorMacabre04:54
rekam0r0n: e.g. hdparm -d /dev/dvd04:54
pfpm0r0n: sudo hdparm /dev/hdX04:54
caineholy shit it finally worked04:55
thoreauputicactually, since it's in the $PATH anyway, all you need is `firefox -profilemanager `04:55
cainethanks guys04:55
m0r0nthanks04:55
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rekacaine: is this your first linux distro?04:55
caineummm04:55
caineits my first week using linux yes if thats what your askin lol04:56
cainei started tuesday04:56
cainelast tuesday04:56
mofhi all04:56
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nihaoacroread, it seems that it doesn't work automatically after installation. any solution?04:56
caine"Firefox cannot use the profile "default" because it is in use...."04:56
cainehow do i fix that04:56
_kevinanyone heard of ReactOS04:57
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pfpcaine: you probably have a zombie 'fox process lying around04:57
Fator_Deecaine: delete the file ~/.mozilla/firefox/default.*/lock04:57
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mofcaine, killall firefox, then run new04:57
Fator_Deeyes, check that too04:57
caineumm04:57
rekanihao: what do you mean?04:57
caineone step at a time04:57
mofor like Fator_Dee04:58
Fator_Deebut if it still says that, delete that lock-file04:58
_kevinit's trying to build an open sources OS that can run .exe and windows program... can this possibly implemented into ubuntu in the future04:58
cainewhat comes first lol04:58
Fator_Deecaine: first killall firefox04:58
pfpcaine: killall firefox-bin actually :)04:58
Einhoernchenhey guys .. i'm using kde at the moment (kubuntu) is it possible to install gnome anyhow?04:58
caineok ty04:58
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Einhoernchenstrange isn't it?04:58
Fator_Deepfp: isn't firefox enuf?04:58
rekaquestion: how do you scroll top's output?04:58
littlewormc compiler?04:59
pfpFator_Dee: not imho, if you look at ps auxw |grep firefox, the binary is named -bin04:59
thoreauputicEinhoernchen: I think you can install ubuntu-desktop to get gnome04:59
SysFailEinhoernchen,  yes...just use synaptic and install the metapackage04:59
Einhoernchenok04:59
mofEinhoernchen, apt-cache search ubuntu-desktop, then apt-get install ubuntu-desktop04:59
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Einhoernchenhell04:59
Einhoerncheni want to do it with kynaptic ,)04:59
tarvidlooking for recommendations on modems04:59
Fator_DeeEinhoernchen: search the same package in kynaptic05:00
Einhoernchenok05:00
Fator_DeeEinhoernchen: and install it with the dependencies05:00
Einhoernchenyep05:00
tarvidexternal serials are disappearing05:00
thoreauputicEinhoernchen: just as easy to type sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop in a terminal05:00
rekalittleworm: you need to install buil-essential if that's what you're asking.05:00
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rekalittleworm: manpages-dev is probably going to tbe helpful too.05:00
reka*build-essential05:01
tarvidis there a hardware compatibility database I can search?05:01
Einhoernchenits a bit strange isnt it to use gnome with kubuntu?05:01
Einhoernchenlol05:01
caineok how do i delete that file05:01
nihaoreka: I "sudo apt-get install acroread". but I start acroreader by clicking the menu item, reader doesn't show up.05:01
caineoh and im guessing that killall worked05:01
rekaEinhoernchen: not really.  people want to use kde on ubuntu05:01
Einhoernchenlol05:01
Einhoernchenok05:01
cainecaine@Caine:/usr/bin$ killall firefox-bin caine@Caine:/usr/bin$05:01
thoreauputicEinhoernchen: not really - I use kubuntu-desktop in ubuntu sometimes - same deal :)05:01
aghooHi, i've got a little problem with ati driver for my laptop, fglrx load properly, xorg.conf seems to be good, i've set the lvds, but when X loads, the screen is on, but it display a dark screen, and the pc is freezed, can you help me ?05:01
thoreauputiccaine: yes, if it didn't work you would get a message05:03
rekaEinhoernchen: just because a distro has a particular environ as default doesn't limit you to using it.  heck i use xfce. kde or icewm sometimes.05:03
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cainek05:03
cainenow how do i delete ~/.mozilla/firefox/default.*/lock through terminal05:03
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mofEinhoernchen, if you know all about gnome and kde, try using xfce or icewm or fluxbox - cool :-)05:03
Einhoernchenheh ok05:03
thoreauputiccaine: silence is golden in *nix :)05:03
Einhoernchen>)05:03
caineol05:03
caine*lol05:03
[Spooky] isnt it "sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop file.iso folder/folder" ?05:03
pfpcaine: you dont need to, if firefox starts normally now05:03
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rekanihao: tried running it from terminal?05:04
rg58smahi where i found the w32codecs??05:04
spanglesontoastwhat are these libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21); however:05:04
spanglesontoast  Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13.05:04
yonilI'm having problem with java based programs (azureus), since i installed sun-j2sdk, so now i removed it and these programs still doesnt work, what can i do ??05:04
Fator_Deecaine: if it doesn't start, write "rm ~/.mozilla/firefox/default.*/lock05:04
mofrg58sma, at mplayer homepage05:04
Einhoernchenis it possible to delete kde after installing gnome?05:04
rekarg58sma: marillat repo.  see ubuntuguide's sample sources.list for the url05:04
Einhoernchenlol05:05
rg58smano05:05
Fator_Deecaine: you can use tab-complete to find out what the default-directorys whole name is05:05
Einhoernchenno?05:05
Einhoernchenok05:05
rg58smathe marillat05:05
Einhoernchen>)05:05
yonilFator_Dee, btw its *default, not default.* :P05:05
rg58smacant hacve in my sources??05:05
nihaoi type the command "acroread", this is the output: /usr/bin/acroread: line 12: /usr/lib/Acrobat5/bin/acroread: no such file or directory05:05
Fator_Deeyonil: hnh?05:05
rg58smabecause have trouble05:05
thoreauputicEinhoernchen: sort of - you can uninstall kdelibs and take the whole thing with it I think05:05
caineok now how do i figure out why firefox crashes when i got to certain sites05:05
mofrg58sma, at mplayer homepage, its easy to install05:05
Fator_Deeyonil: could you elaborate the thing to me?05:05
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Einhoernchenok05:05
yonilFator_Dee, here its ~/.mozilla/firefox/rs8t9olt.default05:05
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Fator_Deeyonil: I have it in ~/.mozilla/firefox/default.1q2/ :-)05:06
OConnorMoby05:06
thoreauputicEinhoernchen: od course if you do that kiss your KDE apps goodbye05:06
EinhoernchenEminem05:06
yonilFator_Dee, weird =P05:06
OConnorbreak me heart05:06
Einhoernchenhehe TheMuso ;)05:06
rekarg58sma: then like mof said, use the mplayer codecs: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingCodecsToTotemHowTo05:06
Einhoernchenthoreauputic, ;)05:06
Fator_Deeyonil: must be wholly random thing05:06
rekahttp://www4.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/codecs.html05:06
yonilAnyone can help me with java thing ?05:06
carniitsomeone can tell me a good source for laptop sleepmode management ???05:06
hans--is there a key in ubuntu with which i can swich back to desktop while playing a game like the windows key?05:06
yonilazureus doesnt work ;_;05:06
Einhoernchen-.-05:07
caineoh hey i have another problem05:07
cainei need to get mplayer...where?05:07
Fator_Deecaine: enable universe and multiverse and search it in synaptic05:07
cainebecause i can hear video but cant see it05:07
cainehow do i enable those?05:07
hans--hear video :P05:07
Fator_Deecaine: you have to get w32codecs from marillat or backports05:08
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caineyes i can hear the audio from the videos but i cant see them05:08
caine the picture says "no picture"05:08
thoreauputiccaine: read this page >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats05:08
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thoreauputiccaine: I'd be inclined to ignore the advice there about backports though05:10
algellI have just installed Ubuntu, and for some reason I can't use any resolusion but 640x480. How do I fix this problem?05:10
flankk'flankk@louise:~$ acpi -t'05:10
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flankk'Thermal 1: passive active[0] , 4294967040.0 degrees C'05:10
flankkshould i be worried?05:10
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christianhi all05:11
spanglesontoasthow can I force something to install without checking for dependencies05:11
omnisby installing from source perhaps05:11
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fixlist05:11
omnismeaning /configure /make05:11
christianhow can i start my samba instance? There's no /etc/init.d/samba05:11
spanglesontoastI mean't package05:11
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rg58smawhere i found the marillat for sources.list??05:12
mofalgell, you have to edit the xorg.conf05:12
Fikrannflankk, not really, it's just broken bios.05:12
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Plntspanglesontoast: dpkg --ignore-depends= ...05:12
danbaomnis, how about with an apt-get type thing?05:12
Plntspanglesontoast: or maybe you can force it05:12
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Plntspanglesontoast: by --force05:12
omnisthere you go05:12
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Plntspanglesontoast: but it isn't a good thing to do this..05:12
thoreauputic--force is  *really * bad idea05:13
spanglesontoastit's only openttd05:13
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danbaspanglesontoast: sudo aptitude -f package name, try that. if you have to.05:13
thoreauputichow to break the package management system in one go...05:13
omnisit won't run properly, or even at all without the right dependencies05:13
danbaspanglesontoast: from repositories, openttd?05:13
spanglesontoastdoesn't work05:13
Plntspanglesontoast: you can download openttd binary from openttd.org .. maybe this will be cleaner solution than forcing dependency problems05:14
Plntspanglesontoast: but you should have the packages installes .. otherwise it will not work05:14
spanglesontoastI downloaded the .deb05:14
Plntspanglesontoast: what are the packages? some SDL libraries?05:14
spanglesontoastand it moans about it05:14
rekarg58sma: deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat testing main05:14
spanglesontoastopenttd_0.4.0.1-2_i386.deb05:15
algellmof: where do I find xorg.conf?05:15
thoreauputicalgell: /etc/X1105:15
mofalgell, any experiences with linux ?05:16
danbaspanglesontoast: read http://wiki.openttd.com/index.php/FAQ_installation ?05:17
rekaalgell: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-21984.html05:17
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IIIEars_thoreuputic - thor! thor! thor! - ;)05:17
algellmof: some experience. not a lot05:17
mofreka algell: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-21984.html, first try this05:18
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yonilhelp me with java ;_;05:18
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rg58smai have problem05:18
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ccfielhello pll..05:18
Cristobalhi, anyone know where to get FREE domain hosting?? I have a domain and need hosting05:19
rekayonil: installing?05:19
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mofsection "SCREEN", subsection "DISPLAY"05:19
algellmof reka: ok I try05:19
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spanglesontoasthow do I select a package to install in aptitude?05:20
yonilreka, dont know. it used to work, now i downloaded sun-j2sdk and program using java such as azureus get stuck05:20
danbaCristobal: yes, just a sec, please dont leave right away:)05:20
mofalgell, with your resolutions05:20
Shuddert1ixspanglesontoast: man aptitude05:20
ccfielwhen installing ubuntu "The Hoary Hedgehog Release" then after 6 months a new release has come out...do i need to re install my os? or just update it?05:20
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danbaCristobal: show me your page...:)05:20
Cristobalok danba thx05:20
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rekaalgell: it's either (1) higher resolutions aren't listed in the section mof said or (2) your refresh rate isn't set right.  try the generic rates listed in a post in that same thread05:20
Cristobalits not done   well  its partially done im working on it05:20
Shuddert1ixspanglesontoast: actually, that doesn't say anything about it, let me check05:21
Fator_Deeccfiel: you can update it with just a few commands05:21
danbaok, well, hopefully it is for real:) http://hosting.cybermagellan.com .05:21
yonilcan someone run "java -version" and show me the first line result ?05:21
Cristobalyes it is for real, it is for a a shop that sells leather clothing05:21
Fator_Deeyonil: java version "1.5.0_02"05:21
ccfielFator_Dee: cool ..so no need to re install my system again? to have the new release.. :)05:21
IIIEars_www.findmyhosting.com/05:21
Fator_Deeccfiel: no, no need to reinstall05:21
danbajava version "1.4.2"05:21
rekayonil: correct me if i'm wrong, but don't you need the jre instead of the sdk?05:21
Cristobaldo you own that server danba05:22
Fator_Deeccfiel: I upgraded my system from warty to hoary05:22
danbagcj-4.0 (GCC) 4.0.0 20050301 (prerelease) (Debian 4.0-0pre6ubuntu7) second line :-p05:22
Shuddert1ixspanglesontoast: there is a nice little blue bar at the top of the screen.. says to use g to install/download/remove05:22
danbaCristobal: no, cybermagellan does, though.05:22
ccfielFator_Dee: cool.. using also apt get?05:22
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danbathere is a contact link, I am sure05:22
Cristobalits neat... i wonder if they will let me stay05:22
Fator_Deeccfiel: yes, just change the repositories to point to the new release and then a dist-upgrade05:22
spanglesontoastyea05:23
spanglesontoastI pressed g05:23
spanglesontoastnothing happened05:23
Cristobaldanba do you know if they have pop3 email05:23
danbaspanglesontoast: nono, f1 is the help.05:23
ccfielFator_Dee: how many months have you used ubuntu?05:23
IIIEars_One-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade05:23
danbaCristobal: no sorry, I dont, look into it, I hjave not used it yet.05:23
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Cristobalok thx05:23
danbaspanglesontoast: if you do sudo aptitude install packageName then iut installs05:24
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Fator_Deeccfiel: I started using warty after about a week or two after it was officially released, so ~7 months05:24
danbause synaptic gfor gui, though, aptitude for comman line05:24
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spanglesontoastok done05:24
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rekadanba: noob question: difference b/n aptitude and apt-get?05:25
ccfielFator_Dee: ok..how was it..? no complecation with your hardware? :)05:25
Fator_Deeccfiel: everything worked out of the box for me :-)05:25
danbawell, not so noob to me:) well apt-get is a mi9d level tool, aptitude a high level, the higher we get, the more a person should be using it.05:25
danbaaptitude should be used by you, apt-get by aptitude, somewhat.05:26
danbaspanglesontoast: done what?05:26
thoreauputicreka: aptitude deals with dependencies better, partcularly when you uninstall something05:26
rekaah.  so why are we giving out instructions to use apt-get and not aptitude05:26
spanglesontoastinstalled05:26
spanglesontoastit works05:26
rekawell, *me* giving out instructions.05:27
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AvinoamHello everyone05:27
IIIEars_"" everything worked all usb devices too. - some tweaking needed for wireless05:27
thoreauputicreka: hmm - seems to be an ingrained habit for ex-debianites :)05:27
thoreauputiclike me05:27
AvinoamAnyone have some time to help a newbie?05:27
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thoreauputicAvinoam: just ask05:28
IIIEars_Hello Avinoam :)05:28
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thoreauputicAvinoam: if someone can help thay will05:28
rekaok.  it was just this is the 1st time i've seen an aptitude command stated over apt-get.05:28
IIIEars_Welcome to Ubuntu.05:28
m0r0nI often get the message "Could not open vfs file" when attempting to play a stream from shoutcast. Any idea how to fix it?05:28
AvinoamBasically, I want to install Ubuntu on a Dell Inspiron 1150, with an Intel i810 card05:28
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Avinoamwith other distribs i've had problems with X display05:28
andreas_hello, i've got a question ;). i want to install debian on my pc; but debian does not have the adm8211 driver as a module afaik...;therefore i thought that maybe i could use the one that comes with ubuntu. so my question is wether i will run into problems with this approach05:28
danbaspanglesontoast: nice...05:28
ccfielFator_Dee: well thanks...bye..05:29
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ccfielbye ppl..thanks!05:29
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hans--anybody know how to switch back to desktop while playing a game?05:29
thoreauputicandreas_: try the live CD and see if it works05:29
AvinoamAnd I noticed that the i810 isn't listed in supported hardware05:29
andreas_you mean knoppix ?05:29
AvinoamI had it working with Knoppix, and then one day it stopped working05:29
AvinoamAndreas, Ubuntu has their own livecd05:30
thoreauputicandreas_: sorry, I misunderstood you - you are installing Debian?05:30
andreas_maybe i was not clear. i have ubuntu, want to erase it,but want to keep the driver05:30
rekahans--: tried alt+tab? ctrl+esc? ctrl+alt+d?05:30
IIIEars_Avinoam - we need more info on your machine.        - had some personal experience with the i810 - bit rocky no GL acceleration still fine for everything but gaming.05:30
Shuddert1ixHaha! This is the first time i've had to use konqueror over nautilus/epiphany/firefox :D05:30
andreas_yes :)05:30
thoreauputicandreas_: the drivers are part of the kernel config05:30
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AvinoamIII i'm on a Celeron 2600, 256 RAM, USB cable modem (unfortunately), LCD screen05:31
hans--thx lets try it05:31
Fator_Deehans--: and maybe ctrl+alt+arrows, and atl+enter05:31
Fator_Dee*alt+enter05:31
thoreauputicandreas_: so what you need is a kernel for debian that includes the modules you want05:31
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andreas_so they are in the kernel? i found a bug that states that the driver should not be in there,because it was not clean enough, or something like that05:31
AvinoamIIIEars any other info needed?05:31
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AvinoamPartition is already ready05:32
andreas_yes,05:32
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IIIEars_I am very new to linux 5th week - but someone here knows the answer.05:32
andreas_and i thought that i could use the ubuntu module for debian :)05:32
thoreauputicandreas_: I wouldn't know about the bug: but modules are kernel-dependent, not distro dependent05:32
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IIIEars_Avinoam - Did the Live CD work okay?05:33
AvinoamIs the installer good? I tried the debian installer and it is quite complicated05:33
thoreauputicandreas_: why are you erasing Ubuntu? It's *very* close to debian anyway05:33
andreas_bug #26168405:33
danbaIIIEars_: the model was there:-p05:33
AvinoamIIIEars the Knoppix livecd worked fine05:33
andreas_just looking around05:33
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andreas_recently tried slackware and suse way back05:34
d0zHello. I'm experiencing some problem with my Inprocomm IPN 2220 wifi card. I use ndiswrapper and everythin is fine in dmesg. But when I try to configure it with iwconfig it won't take my conf. Neither will it change essid or channel.05:34
thoreauputicandreas_: just stay with Ubuntu if it works for you - you can do anything on Ubuntu you can do with Debian05:34
andreas_i want to good overview before i "settle down" with a distro05:34
AvinoamIs Ubuntu easier to use than debian?05:34
andreas_-to +a05:34
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d0zI've had this card up and running under debian but not ubuntu. :(05:35
glassorhi all, i installed ubuntu and xp on my sata drive, i added another sata drive that i installed server 2003, when i installed the server 2003 the first drive was not connected, what do i need to write in the "menu.lst" in the grub folder so i could do boot with server 2003 to?05:35
thoreauputicandreas_: I have some Debian experience, and really, there isn't much difference except that Ubuntu tends to work better "out of the box"05:35
andreas_so...where is all the fun then :)05:35
danbadoz, what have you tried so far?05:35
rekaAvinoam: i'll tell you one thing. #debian is not as newbie friendly as this channel05:35
thoreauputicAvinoam: a bit easier in a number of ways, yes05:36
danbaAvinoam: hey, i810 is the graphics card you have in the computer?05:36
IIIEars_Avinoam - YES - Synaptic/apptitude pkg managers are a 3 click installer dream so smooth it makes XP envious. :)05:36
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Avinoamdanba yes05:36
Avinoamit's a dell laptop05:36
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AvinoamAlso, i wanted to know if Ubuntu has the correct USB network drivers so that a can use my cable modem05:37
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danbaglassor: not sure you can do that...05:37
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rg58smadeb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat testing main05:37
rg58sma works correctly?????05:37
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glassorwhy not?05:37
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LoneElfAnyone here use a radeon card with 2 monitors?05:37
danbaAvinoam: yesm, I know it is that, you said that in the same sentence... http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsDell lists a different card inside a 1150...05:37
Avinoamreally? lemme check...05:38
rekarg58sma: did you apt-get update after you added it?05:38
danbaglassor: not sure if the mbr can boot of a second drive, let me find you a link.05:38
glassorok 10x05:38
AvinoamDanba, when i ran knoppix under xmodule=i810, it worked, without that, it didn't05:38
danbaglassor: just a sec  tho.05:38
rg58smai didn added because previuosly have troble05:38
d0zdanba: I started it up with ndiswrapper. The first thing that strikes me when running iwconfig is that there is no encryption row. So I try to change essid but it won't change, tried changing channel it then fails. This is printed in dmesg: ndiswrapper (iw_set_freq:282): setting configuration failed (C0010015). Thats about it.05:38
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IIIEars_Avinoam - These link. will have more neat tips and tricks than you can shake a stick at. FAQ http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UserDocumentation http://ubuntuguide.org/  Display http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:39
danbaLoneElf: www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowTo mentions it, that is about how much I know about that.05:39
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thoreauputicrg58sma: use it to get codecs, then get rid of it or comment it out05:39
LoneElffor the life of me i cant get out of clone mode using fireglcontrol. It has really been giving me a hard time.... actually i guess a more accurate question would be, has anyone with a radeon gotten thier comp to run with dial screen?05:39
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LoneElfdanba: yeah, ive been there, thanks =) but it doesnt seem to help my problem05:39
rg58smaok05:39
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Avinoamhmm there it says i84505:40
danbaLoneElf: state it:)05:40
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d0zdanba: Do you have a similar card?05:40
reka"LoneElf for the life of me i cant get out of clone mode using fireglcontrol"05:40
danbad0z: did you read the wiki for wifi?05:40
danbano, I dont use wireless.05:40
danbawith linux, anyhow.05:40
Avinoam82852?05:40
d0zYes, and I have used it before on debian.05:40
mcsfhi, did anyone have problems upgrading linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 to 2.6.10-34.1 ? i always get an error about ndiswrapper05:40
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danbaI mean the ubuntu wiki for wifi.05:41
LoneElfdanba: has been stated, as reka pointed out.05:41
d0zdanba: Yes i've read one ubuntu wiki page about wifi. Don't know if there are more than one.05:41
AvinoamHmm maybe i should be upgrading BIOS?05:42
danbanono, I meant, state what you tried in your question, so I dont have to go over the basics...05:42
rekaLoneElf: searched ubuntuforums.org yet?05:42
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rg58smaErr ftp://ftp.nerim.net testing Release.gpg05:42
rg58sma  La conexin expir [IP: 62.4.17.14 21] 05:42
d0zdanba: The funny thing is that it does'nt matter what command I try to use with iwconfig it gets totally ignored by the card.05:42
danbahttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FrontPage/searchwiki?expr=wifi&submit=Search that gives all the results, d0z.05:42
roshlamehow do I make Totem to use esd for sound output?05:43
danbaif you state that you tried the newbie things in your questions, ppl like me will not give you advice.05:43
danbacause we'lll know you tried what we could think of, thus leaving the queastion on the screen longer for ppl that know what they are talking about.05:43
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LoneElfdanba: i installed all fo the fglrx stuff from the ubuntu servers, went into my xorg.conf file and set driver to fglrx and restarted my compter (and my x server before that) and i used fireglcontrol to tell configure the comp to run in extended mode rather than clonemode... to no avail, when i reopen the program it still says its in clone mode.05:44
rg58smaErr ftp://ftp.nerim.net testing Release.gpg05:44
rg58sma  La conexin expir [IP: 62.4.17.14 21] 05:44
danbarg58sma: is that the whole error message?05:44
andreas_bye05:44
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danbaplease post only once, rg58sma.05:45
rg58smaok05:45
danbaor at least only once in one 640x480 screenfull05:45
rg58smahave a problem with Err ftp://ftp.nerim.net testing Release.gpg05:45
danbayes, I know, I saw it 3 times by now:) well, is that the whole error, those two lines, nothing else?05:45
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mofrg58sma, sometimes the marillat server is unusable05:46
danbarg58sma: ok, well, Ill have a pastebin for you with what I did to fix it in a few minutes.05:46
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lillishttp://pastebin.com/292725 <- Whenever i try to apt-get I get that error05:47
lillisoh damn it's in swedish, sorry05:47
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danbalillis: your sources.list is likely cluttered with outside sources, please paste that file to pastebin.com05:49
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rekaroshlame: what particular problem are you having?05:49
lillisdanba: sec05:49
mcsflillis, you must be root to use apt-get05:49
danbarg58sma: please post your sources.list to pastebin.com, with the exact error you get after you sudo apt-get update05:50
mcsfso here you'd use: " sudo apt-get install term " (correct me, i'm a newbie as well)05:50
Seveaslillis, try LC_MESSAGES=POSIX sudo apt-get install (etc...)05:50
danbarg58sma: if any, that is.05:50
lillishttp://pastebin.com/29272805:50
danbamcsf: yes, you are wrongm, look at the next line05:50
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Seveasrofl, lillis you have no main!05:50
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lillisoh.05:51
lillisI accidently deleted "main"05:51
lillisdoho05:51
Seveaslillis add main and restricted05:51
danbalillis: maybe comment out the cd, too.05:51
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Seveasyeah, that's a good idea :)05:51
danbaSeveas: you cant type while rofl...05:51
reka"doho".  is that what homer sounds like in swedish? :-)05:51
Seveasdanba, i can05:51
lillislol reka05:51
Seveaslaptop on the floor ;)05:51
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Seveasno reka, that would be dh05:52
Seveas:)05:52
lillisso how should it look?05:52
lillisdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main universe multiverse05:52
lillisdeb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary restricted universe multiverse05:52
lillis?05:52
Seveasno05:52
danbaguys with the hardware issues above, go ahead and check out the forums, ubuntuforums.org and stick around, maybe someone will know how to fix it.05:52
Seveas deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricteduniverse multiverse05:52
jnoreikohi. probably a daft question, but what do I use for ftp on ubuntu?05:52
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Seveasdeb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricteduniverse multiverse05:52
lillisah05:53
rekajnoreiko: easy route: gftp05:53
Seveaswith a space between restricted and universe05:53
roshlamereka, i have just installed totem-xine, when I play an AVI file it does not produce any sounds05:53
jnoreikolet me guess... is that command line?05:53
rekajnoreiko: GUI based.05:53
danbaSeveas: why not a link to www.mts.net/~danb/sources.list :)05:53
jnoreikowoo! :)05:53
Seveasjnoreiko, places->connect to server05:53
rg58smahttp://pastebin.com/29273005:53
danbarg58sma: acknowledged.05:53
rekaroshlame: are you having similar problems with mp3s etc.?05:53
rekaroshlame: also, are you running gnome?05:53
jnoreikois gftp included in warty? I don't see it in the menus05:54
roshlamei run gnome05:54
lillisthere05:54
lillisthank you Seveas :)05:54
rg58smahttp://pastebin.com/29273005:54
rekajnoreiko: no.  you need to get it from the repos05:54
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roshlamereka, i can play mp3 files with xmms...05:54
lotusleafwget <305:54
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Seveasjnoreiko, you need to sudo apt-get install it :)05:54
mofbbl05:54
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rekalotusleaf: too complex for me. :-)  i like how it can download for example all jpegs on a site.05:55
reka*though05:55
lotusleafreka, gwget05:55
Seveaswget -p, wget -R05:55
danbarg58sma: lines 79 and 80 are because you have synaptic open, maybe you knew that.05:55
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rg58smaand lines 77 y 7805:56
jnoreikofantastic! thanks :)05:56
danbarg58sma: why is the URL posted twice again?05:56
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reka:-D05:56
rekathanks lotusleaf05:56
lotusleafreka, yw05:57
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rekajnoreiko: np05:57
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jnoreikodang... installing new apps is so much easier on linux than any other OS :)05:58
danbarg58sma: in the same screen, and my reply that I got it is right after your first post...please dont do that.05:59
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mcquaidhello, i'm looking into making my own debs, what package provides dh_make?05:59
underdogmcquaid: packages.debian.org05:59
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Seveasmcquaid, packages.ubuntu.com05:59
mcquaideh?05:59
underdogthei're quite the same, so you can search for package contents there and then apt-get in ubuntu05:59
Seveas:)05:59
mcquaidok05:59
underdogSeveas: bhaa :P05:59
bob2mcquaid: www.debian.org/devel/, new maintainer's guide05:59
Seveasaptitude install maint-guide :)06:00
I_prefer_VectorLanyone know stuff about the Live cd? im using the Hoary Hedgehog live cd now....06:00
teebones /msg NickServ IDENTIFY help06:00
danbarg58sma: i dont know, it worked fine here, you can try changing your IP address, by sudo ifdown eth0 &&sudo ifup eth0 it will make you lose connection to the internet for a second.06:00
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JDahlmcquaid, as always: apt-cache search search dh_make06:01
rg58smay have a wlan006:01
danbarg58sma: ok, replace that instead of eth0, good catch.06:01
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JDahlmcquaid, it might also be a good idea to grap an official package with apt-get source to see their debian/rules + debian/control files for inspiration06:02
danbad0z: still there?06:02
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danbaivoks, have some time for a wifi issue?06:02
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I_prefer_VectorLCan Ubuntu Live actually mount my harddisk or am I just not supposed to do this with it?06:03
rg58smasudo ifdown wlan0 &&sudo ifup wlan0????06:03
rekaroshlame: http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly worked for me.  fixed all sound problems.06:03
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danbarg58sma: try, yes06:03
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ivoksdanba: in a minute06:03
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rekaI_prefer_VectorL: it mounted mine automatically.06:03
rg58smaready and now??06:04
I_prefer_VectorLhmmzzz...06:04
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I_prefer_VectorLmy /mnt is empty...06:04
danbarg58sma: please do ifconfig in a terminal, and post that to pastebin.com06:04
XandriXok wtf ive bin waiting since april to get my ubuntu cds still no confirmation in my email06:04
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rekaXandriX: what country?06:06
Fator_Deedooglus: are you there?06:06
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I_prefer_VectorLKnoppix mounted it automatically too.... and was much faster06:06
XandriXcanada06:06
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danbaI_prefer_VectorL: yes, it should mount your hard disk in read only.06:06
i3dmasteranyone knows how to adjust the gnome-terminal's shortcut keys?06:06
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XandriXreka, canada06:06
roshlamereka, thank you06:06
rekaXandriX: : i don't know what the average is. i was told mine would take 10 weeks. but i'm in aus.06:07
I_prefer_VectorLoh.. wait a sec.... perhaps it's a scsi06:07
rekaroshlame: np06:07
I_prefer_VectorLBut I think not06:07
Johnnyfavis there an upgrade for Libxrender?06:07
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danbai3dmaster: oh come on:) edit, keyboard shortcuts....06:07
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teebones.06:07
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i3dmasterdanba: where and how? I am getting a conflict on one of the vi command06:08
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Avinoam55 percent downloaded yeay06:08
rekaJohnnyfav: iirc, only security updates will be available in the hoary repos.06:08
I_prefer_VectorLwell.... guess I'd better reboot and check it out...06:08
danbai3dmaster: open a gnome terminal, CLick on the Edit menu, click on the keyboard Shortcuts option, and set it up.06:08
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comcoranyone have any suggestions about how to get around this twm /etc/alternatives issue on upgrades?06:09
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Johnnyfavso what do I do to upgrade the libxrender?06:09
AvinoamBy the way as far as I know, the bittorrent tracker is up because i'm using it right now06:09
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i3dmasterdanba: ok are you talking about gnome-terminal? I am only having Edit current profile and on the tabs of profile, I did not see keyboard shortcuts...06:10
AvinoamAnyone here have any experience with Ubuntu and USB cable modems?06:10
toranAIE!06:10
toranthose suck -_-06:10
torango ethernet, man06:10
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Avinoami know i know06:11
Avinoami need to get the right cable06:11
i3dmasterdanba: ok sorry, its on the menu.06:11
toranhmm... I've no experience with them :(06:11
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i3dmasterdanba: I did not use menu usually. Thanks man06:11
toranbut I can definately say, ethernet would most likely work, and it would be way faster too06:11
Cho7afx de salon de koi ausi06:11
Cho7-ChanServ- [#mandrivafr]  Bienvenue sur #mandrivafr, anciennement #mandrakefr06:11
Cho7xulin on est pas a roland garros06:11
Cho7xulin c'est #ubuntu-fr pas #rallandgarros06:11
Cho7OConnor lol06:11
Cho7OConnor merci06:11
Cho7afx xulin lol ben ou je sais bien06:11
Cho7afx ATP-get06:11
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mofAvinoam, look at 'tail -f /var/log/messages' when you connect modem06:11
Avinoami dunno about way faster06:12
Avinoami was getting pretty decent speeds yesterday06:12
IcemanV9is it possible to use 'terminal server client' to view the desktop on the winxp box???06:12
Avinoamon knoppix06:12
danbai3dmaster: hey, glad you worked that out with yourself, cause I was thinking, well, I told him exactly where....06:12
mofAvinoam, you on knoppix ?06:12
Avinoammof i was on knoppix yesterday till i screwed something up06:12
Avinoambut i want a real install06:12
rekai don't know french.  did we just get spammed by Cho7?06:13
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mofAvinoam, look at 'tail -f /var/log/messages' when you connect modem06:13
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danbaAvinoam: what cable modem model?06:13
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OConnor* Stan22 is now known as Stan22[oqp] 06:13
OConnor* kix (JavaUser@244-67.242.81.adsl.skynet.be) has joined #ubuntu-fr06:13
Fator_Deereka: seems like it06:13
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mofwatch the output06:13
OConnorafx en effet avec les lettre dans le bon ordre a marche bcp mieu ':)06:13
OConnorafx par contre c t dj install 0maj 0up's 0 install06:13
OConnorafx dc g pas non plus f nawak av que a plante06:13
i3dmasterdanba: ya, sorry about that. looks like when you disable the menu, the right click did not show it anymore06:13
OConnorkix Bjr , je suis actuelement sous windows ... mais c06:13
Avinoamdanba it's a terayon06:14
Fator_Deeand it seems OConnor and Cho7 are the same06:14
rekaFator_Dee: bah, where are the ops today?06:14
danbano, no, dont be sorry, glad it worked, you are welcome.06:14
Fator_Deebob2? Amaranth?06:14
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danbareka, Fator_Dee, we did not get spammed, he pasted to the wrong channel part of his conversation06:14
Fator_Dee:-o06:14
AmaranthFator_Dee: What's up?06:14
Anubisprobably should not hold my breathe for an updated nicotine uh?06:14
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danbaAvinoam: well, doesnt that have an ethernet port as well?06:14
darkstegoHow does one switch to console in ubuntu... Ctrl+alt+F1 doesn't seem to work06:15
Fator_DeeAmaranth: might be just a misunderstanding06:15
Avinoamdanba it does but i don't have a cable, i will get one eventually06:15
thoreauputicdark: it should06:15
Avinoamdark F1 is your console06:15
AvinoamF2 would be a new one06:15
rekaAmaranth: we thought we were just spammed.06:16
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danbaAvinoam: yes, much easier to get it working, it is called cat5 cable with rj45 \jacks, or popularly jsut an "ethernet" cable...at any store, like office depot, whatever.06:16
darkstegoso its just ctrl+alt+f1?06:16
Avinoamdanba i'm in israel and i don't have a car06:16
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Avinoamctrl alt f206:16
Avinoamto switch06:16
danbadarkstego: are you on an apple?06:16
darkstegono06:16
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darkstegois there a PPC ubuntu?06:16
rekayep06:16
darkstegointeresting06:17
darkstegohmmm06:17
toresbeWhat GCC does Ubuntu hoary and/or warty ship with?06:17
darkstegosomething is up06:17
thoreauputicdarkstego: should work fine , unless you are not using gdm and F1 is where you started X06:17
rekatoresbe: gcc (GCC) 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-8ubuntu2)06:17
toresbereka: is that Warty or Hoary?06:17
danbatoresbe: 3.4 I think, not positive.06:17
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darkstegoneither f1 nor anything else works06:17
rekahoary06:17
cainehey how do i delte all of my history06:17
toresbereka: thanks06:17
mofgcc -v06:17
danbadarkstego: do you have a fn key on the keyboard?06:17
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darkstegono06:18
cainei know how to delete the browser history, cookies, cache, etc06:18
Avinoamdanba i know what cable i need06:18
Avinoami'm a newbie to linux not to computers06:18
rekatoresbe: i think there's a more recent one in the repos.  but that's what i got from the build-essential package06:18
idle-caine: you mean .bash_history ?06:18
caineidk06:18
cainei remember windows kept a log history of like sites you go to and shit and it was so big that i had to delete it06:18
caineand im guessing linux has it too06:19
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mindspinwrong guesss ?06:19
Fator_Deeyou can delete it from firefoxes preferences06:19
idle-it should be on guide06:19
cainefactor: i already know about that06:19
thoreauputiccaine: I think logrotate takes care of that - and firefox has a default history setting of 9 days06:19
mindspinare youtalking about "temporary Internet Files"?06:19
cainebut im not talking about the browser history only06:20
caineim talking about all the history06:20
GerrathI'm trying to get a good understanding of devices in Linux (Ubuntu).  Ubuntu uses devfs correct?06:20
cainewhat files youve opened and all that gr8 stuff06:20
Fator_Deecaine: but they are just plain textfiles, it would take a long time before they took up a lot of scace06:20
Avinoamwhat number of KB signifies 64MB?06:20
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Fator_Dee*space06:20
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fabsHello All06:20
thakatHello,  I am a recovering windows user.  My last windows encounter was just days ago.  Just dl'd America's Army and have no idea how to install it.  Any ideas?06:20
cainefactor: beleive me its not the space im worried about ok06:20
Echelon-Hhi there, is there no quicktime plugin for firefox under linux?06:21
caineechelon-h: yes there is06:21
danbaEchelon-H: correct.06:21
fabsGuys, why do I receive this error in my webbrowser when I try to load a page with Flash content: The plugin initialization failed06:21
Fator_Deecaine: you worried that someone will hack into your account :-p06:21
ivokswho called ivoks? :)06:21
rekacaine: lol. something to hide?06:21
cainefactor: no im not worried about that06:21
danbaivoks, I did.06:21
cainemy parents are too fuckin nosy06:21
cainesry about the laung06:21
cainei forgot06:21
Fator_Deecaine: just lock the screen06:21
danbajust a sec, ivoks.06:21
ivoksdanba: state your rank, solidare :)06:21
rekaEchelon-H: mplayer plugin takes care of that i think06:22
mindspinand they are linux experts?06:22
mindspincool parents06:22
danbasoldier:-p06:22
caineoh yes very cool lemme tell ya06:22
cainesome how they know all my passwords no matter what06:22
Avinoami hope that the installer is wicked easy06:22
ivoksdamn... english06:22
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mindspinhahah06:22
mindspinto simple06:22
Fator_Deecaine: well, change to a new one06:22
danbaI know...youre croatian...06:22
mindspinmaybe06:22
mindspinsocial engineering ;-)06:22
cainefactor: been there..done that06:22
mofcaine, john the ripper06:22
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Fator_Deemof: but it would take a while to crack a password :-p06:23
danbaivoks, I dont need help myself, I need you to help this one guy, trying to get a hold of him,06:23
fabsGuys, anyone could help with flash probs here?06:23
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Fator_Deeif it was proper06:23
ivoksdanba: :)06:23
Shuddert2ixYou'd figure that my clone would die..06:23
toinouhello06:23
Shinakuone more problem06:23
Echelon-Hwill mozzila-mplayer work with firefox?06:23
ArthurSenseiis there an equivalent to debian testing/unstable in ubuntu06:23
danbafabs sudo aptitude install flashplayer-mozilla06:23
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mindspinminimum 7 digits, numbers , upper and lowercase  that will help06:23
Avinoamthe debian installer is a pain in the anus06:23
rekaEchelon-H: yes06:23
mofFackamato, just run jtr on many machines06:23
cainei once had a password that was "13467919738246"06:23
caineand they knew that one too06:23
mofFator_Dee, , just run jtr on many machines06:24
Fator_Deemof: I noticed06:24
fabsdanba, thanks but I think I got it, but it still shows me that silly error on the bottom of the browser...06:24
mindspinits only numbers no prob for pwcracking progs06:24
rekacaine: you didn't check the save passwrod box did you? ;-)06:24
Fator_Deemof: but still, it would take a lot of time06:24
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cainehell no06:24
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danbafabs, is it a trailer site, for streaming media?06:24
d0zI'm experiencing some problem with my Inprocomm IPN 2220 wifi card. Everything looks fine when I modprobe ndiswrapper. But I can't change settings with iwconfig.06:24
caineplus this was on windows before06:24
ShinakuI do apt-get update06:24
Fator_Deecaine: some keylogger?06:24
fabsdanba, nope just the menu is in Flash06:24
Shinakuand it says 0% {connecting to us.archive.ubuntu...06:25
Shinakuand just stops at that06:25
cainefactor: i dont think so06:25
Fator_Deecaine: no wonder if that was on windows and they knew your pass :-p06:25
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cainebut im not sure06:25
danbafabs, link me,06:25
ShinakuDNS works fine06:25
mofFator_Dee, not if you have 10 machines06:25
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danbad0z: ?06:25
Shinakuand it's aiming for 1.0.0.006:25
mindspinShinaku no route to host?06:25
moffor 10 pw06:25
mindspinnameserverprobs?06:25
cainei was the person who installed my com06:25
caine*comp06:25
Fator_Deemof: usually you don't have acces to that many machines06:25
Shinakunope, can't be06:25
GerrathI remember reading that there were two device file systems that were popular, devfs was one, what is the other?06:25
caineno one else was in the room when i set all my stuff06:25
Fator_Deemof: ordinary persons don't06:25
ShinakuI can wget from sites fine06:25
fabsdanba, http://www.visualdesigner.net06:25
mofok......06:25
Echelon-Hhow can I set a command to run on startup?06:26
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thoreauputicShinaku: is the URL pingable ?06:26
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danbad0z: can you read this?06:26
Loop_NZyes06:26
Shinakuno06:26
Shinakuroot@Sparky:/home/sparky # ping us.archive.ubuntu.com06:26
ShinakuPING us.archive.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0) 56(84) bytes of data.06:26
d0zYes danba.06:26
danbaare you d0z?06:26
Loop_NZsorry06:26
rekaEchelon-H: system->prefs->sessions : startup programs (assuming gnome)06:26
fabsdanba, it seems to be installing, that means I didn't have it installed properly perhaps, cos I tried to do it via Synaptic...06:26
thoreauputicShinaku: so the server is down, obviously06:26
ShuddertrixGerrath: udev?06:27
danbaivoks - d0z, d0z - ivoks...nice to meet you both...:)06:27
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danbafabs, jsut a sec.06:27
Shinakuah.. Ubuntu's server is down06:27
Echelon-Hreka, and assuming xfce?06:27
ivoksd0z: hi06:27
thoreauputicShinaku: if you can't ping it...06:27
d0zHello ivoks. I can't figure out what's wrong with my wifi.06:27
rekaEchelon-H: join #xfce :-)  you probably have to edit some config file06:27
fabsdanba, sure, hmm still same06:27
ivoksd0z: so... your wifi card is?06:27
ShinakuI can ping it from this box though06:27
GerrathShuddertrix, udev thats it, its the newer one correct?06:27
mindspincaine with aknoppix cd on hand you'll have no problem to access nearly any computer06:27
danbafabs, yes it does not work here neither. perhaps it is too advanced.06:28
Echelon-Hreka, k06:28
nihaois it true that, to support Grub splash image, kernel framebuffer should be enabled?06:28
mindspinif you got physical access to it06:28
ShuddertrixGerrath: I think so06:28
d0zInprocomm IPN 2220 chipset. I had it up and running under debian but not under ubuntu.06:28
danbafabs: on the other hand, maybe it is java, have taht working?06:28
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GerrathShuddertrix, it supports hot swapping, does Ubuntu use it or devfs?06:28
ivoksd0z: do you remember what modules you used?06:29
fabsdanba, oh u are right, well anyway I could try to re-install it? Via Synaptic? Oh try this, it was working b4 http://www.m2o.it06:29
Echelon-Hcan anyone please tell me how can I change my nickname in XChat PERMANENTLY?06:29
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mofGerrath, hald isn't it ?06:29
jnoreikoanyone here use skype?06:29
Shinakuahh, it's back06:29
rekaEchelon-H: xchat->serverlist06:29
Echelon-Hjnoreiko, me06:29
ShuddertrixGerrath: Not sure..06:29
Echelon-Hreka, tried that. for some reason it always comes back to my linux username06:29
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ivoksd0z: ?06:29
jnoreikoI just ran dpkg -i with the latest .deb, and launched skype again, and it still says the old version number in About06:30
Loop_NZI intend to use Skype but I don't yet06:30
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cainemindspin: what are you talking about?06:30
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fabsdanba, also because I did install VB6 with CrossOver and it did play about with java stuff, so u are prob right06:30
mofi think suse were the once who use devfs06:30
danbafabs, yeah, that is a quicktime type of thing, embedded video... mplayer needed for that, and it does not always work... http://ubuntuguide.org/#mplayer .06:30
mindspinIf I have a knoppix cd and access to your rom drive, I can fetch any data on that machine06:30
ArthurSenseiany1 has a realplayer linux that works properly?06:31
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sleptdoes anyone know how I can make xfce shutdown without passwd ?06:31
danbafabs, referring to the second site.06:31
rekaEchelon-H: try and put Echelon-H in all the text boxes.06:31
mindspini mean everybody can do that, not only me06:31
thoreauputicjnoreiko: probably a different path to the executable06:31
d0zivoks: Yes, I have downloaded the same windows drivers. Then I fetched ndiswrapper with apt. When I modprobe everything looks fine.06:31
Echelon-Hi don't think it'll do any difference.06:31
Echelon-Hi tried changing them all anyway06:31
danbaslept, run a sudo command within 15 seconds before shutting down:-p06:31
Echelon-Hbut the moment i'm doing reset it's coming back to echeln06:31
fabsdanba, strange though it used to work, but I have just realized no java is installed in my sys06:31
Echelon-H*echelon06:31
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ivoksd0z: ok, does iwconfig shows you anything?06:31
sleptdanba, then I can just enter the passwd06:32
jnoreikohow do I update the locate db?06:32
d0zivoks: Yes, I parse you it privatly.06:32
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danbafabs, I have 3 at least installed, still it does not work, I broke it somewhere, but I dont care enough yet to fix it...06:32
thoreauputicjnoreiko: sudo updatedb06:32
ivoksd0z: don't :)06:32
GerrathI think from what I have read Ubuntu uses udev and not devfs, can anyone confirm this for me?06:32
ivoksd0z: it's nice if it shows you anything...06:32
mindspinyou can also get ERD tools to get acces to any windows machine (works not on linux )06:33
ivoksd0z: you don't have to paste all that details06:33
mofjnoreiko, updatedb06:33
fabsdanba, yes, I think i have done the same... thanks a lot for ur help anyway!!06:33
ivokskhm...06:33
danbawelcome.06:33
ivoksread BEFORE you type06:33
d0zivoks: Ok, it's not that much.06:33
rekaEchelon-H: try enabling "global user info" in a server's edit popup06:33
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d0zivoks: I can scan and find my ap, but not connect to it.06:33
ivoksd0z: so.. where is the problem?06:33
mindspinbtw. I know also everything my son is doing on his computer ;-)06:33
danbad0z: you can also use http://pastebin.com or the like, or #flood06:33
sleptwhats the difference between gnome and xfce shutdown ?06:34
ivoksd0z: http://www.grad.hr/~ivoks/ubuntu06:34
ivoksd0z: download wifi-radar and install it06:34
d0zivoks: I can't connect, thats the problem.06:34
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sleptmindspin, you should respect privacy06:34
rekaslept: one is done in gnome and the other in xfce?06:34
d0zivoks: Is there an .deb?06:34
d0zdanba: Ok.06:35
mindspinmy son is twelfe06:35
ivoksd0z: yes06:35
mindspintwelve06:35
ivoksd0z: that's a deb06:35
Echelon-Hreka, it is enabled.06:35
mindspinso I'm responsible for what he's doing06:35
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Echelon-H:\06:35
danbaslept, nice06:35
ivoksd0z: does 'iwlist wlan0 scan' shows you your AP?06:36
rekamindspin: just curious, at what age will you "slacken the leash"?  i agree that 12 yr olds should be monitored06:36
dabawell, this account is in xchat, Ill try...06:36
mindspinreka, that depends, I think on what he's doing06:37
bythewayquit06:37
bythewayoops06:37
d0zivoks: Yes.06:37
ivoksd0z: so... where is problem?! :)06:37
ivoksd0z: does your AP allows you to connect?06:37
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d0zivoks: iwlist ath0 peers. Don't show my client. :)06:37
drcodehi all06:37
mindspinas much freedom as possible and as much control as necessary, that's my approach06:37
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ivoksd0z: ath0?06:37
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drcodeany one read about the israel torjen?06:37
Fator_Deemindspin: better to keep monitoring until he developes common sense :-)06:38
drcodein the news?06:38
ivoksd0z: wlan0, not ath006:38
rekamindspin: sounds reasonable06:38
d0zivoks: It's an debian system that runs as ap. :)06:38
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ivoksd0z: you have wifi interface on wlan0, not ath006:38
sleptis there a ubuntu  channel for xfce ?06:38
Fator_Deeslept: #ubuntux06:39
mindspinand I have no problem with him, looking for naked girls sometimes, cause that is natural for that age06:39
d0zivoks: My clients wifi card is wlan0. My gateway behind the tv that's act ap is ath0.06:39
sleptthanks06:39
Fator_Deemindspin: :-)06:39
ivoksd0z: so what?!06:39
ivoksd0z: you are scanning on wlan0, not ath006:39
mindspinIt#s more for security reasons and personalshooter stuff I#m afraid of06:39
ivoksd0z: i don't care what you have for AP06:39
rekamindspin: personalshooter?06:39
mindspingames06:39
d0zivoks: Hheh yes that's very true. But scanning and being connected isn't the same thing.06:40
ivoksd0z: just run 'iwlist wlan0 scan'06:40
ivoksd0z: does it show you your AP?06:40
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Fator_Deemindspin: as long as he knows that they are only games I'd think it's ok06:40
jnoreikoI have a skype in /usr/bin and one in /opt/skype_staticQT-1.0.0.2006:40
jnoreikoand neither of them run from the command line. don't know which one is running from gnome menu06:40
d0zivoks: Yes.06:40
Fator_Deemindspin: I didn't grow up to be a nutcase even if I liked to play mortal kombat when i was 10 or something :-)06:41
mindspinmy view on this is very ambivalent coz I dislike those games very much06:41
d0zivoks: But the quality isn't that good.06:41
dabaFator_Dee, better things to do for a 12 year old...06:41
Fator_Deedaba: of course06:41
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mindspinhe#s playing MI on the xbox06:41
mindspinthat should be enough06:41
ivoksd0z: just download taht wifi-radar and copy it with usbstick or something06:41
dabaI did too, tho, MK, Doom2, and such...06:41
ArthurSenseimindspin> learn him chess :)06:41
ivoksd0z: run it from menu and connect yo your AP06:41
mindspinhehe06:41
Fator_Deemindspin: or go06:42
d0zivoks: Yes i've tried disable it but it still doesn't work.06:42
ivoksd0z: disabling what?06:42
mindspinIf a game is free for 16++ its not for twelve year olds06:42
mindspinbut in fact its not a big problem06:42
d0zivoks: The encryption. Just a moment I'll see what wifi-radar have to say.06:43
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d0zivoks: You can do wonderfull things with ssh I control both the ap and client.06:43
ivoks:)06:43
ivoksthat's why i'm still 23 :)06:44
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ivokslol, wrong channel06:44
mindspinhe's surfing via squid and once a week I have a short look at what he's up to06:44
Echelon-HUgh, I'm depreessed.06:44
Echelon-Hmy computer can run Republic Commando :\06:44
Echelon-H*cn't06:44
Echelon-H*can't.06:44
slonhah, you were in #naughty_girls, werent you?06:44
rekamindspin: so *has* he been looking at naked women?06:45
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mindspinsure06:45
Echelon-Hreka, lol06:45
Fator_DeeEchelon-H: go take a hike (I mean, running is a great way to enhance your general feeling)06:45
rekaEchelon-H: it had to be asked.06:45
slonreka, in facgt mindspin mentioned that earlier.06:45
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Echelon-HFator_Dee, im usually running on fridays :P06:46
Fator_DeeEchelon-H: make an exception :-)06:46
slonas something that is not too bad, he guesses...06:46
Echelon-HFator_Dee, nah, it's late by now.06:46
Echelon-HFator_Dee, to run, I mean.06:46
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Echelon-Hanyways, playing a guitar > running.06:46
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slonwell, Echelon-H that worked.....06:46
slepthow does gnome do the shoutdown /  as which user ?06:46
ArthurSenseiis shutdown -h now ok for ubuntu06:47
slonslept, my xfce does not ask me as yours does you.06:47
IcemanV9ArthurSensei: yes06:47
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mindspinArthurSensei  sudo init 006:47
Echelon-Hugh, I need to go and get ready for some math test... Was nice to meet you.06:48
tarvidany modem recommendations?06:48
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Tezkahso I want to start a program on startup, and when I start it, I have to use "sudo athcool on"06:48
Tezkahhow can I make it automagically run?06:48
puls1onhi every body, anyone can help me plz?06:48
danba!fr06:48
rekaTezkah: system->prefs->sessions : startup programs tab06:48
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reka... i think06:49
danbaEchelon-H: once you change it, hit connect.06:49
Tezkahfor KDE? :P06:49
danbaoops, taht was a little scrolled up.06:49
mindspinTezkah sudo is only necessary for administration issues06:49
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puls1onanyone can help me plz?06:49
danbapuls1on: please ask your question06:49
d0zivoks: Ok, got it up and running, couldn't find a .deb though.06:50
rekaTezkah: no, those were gnome instructions. :-p06:50
mindspinTezkah sudo kcontrol06:50
sleptpuls1on, just ask06:50
Tezkahmindspin: athcool : must run as root. exit06:50
danbaI can help you if you ask about something I can help with.06:50
Echelon-Hdanba, had a small delay?06:50
danbaheh, no, no...06:50
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danbaI was in xchat trying to see how to do it...06:50
mindspinso you have to run it sudo06:50
djpdoes gnome-bluetooth work under hoary?06:50
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ivoksd0z: lol, there are 4-5 files... one is deb :)06:50
shido6if you change the domain on a sip device and can no longer get to that device via its web interface how do you make your network appear to be that domain ( using linux as a router and dns server here)06:50
d0zivoks: On the homepage?06:50
shido6the device believes the domain is bleh.bleh.bleh06:51
danbaEchelon-H: heh, no, no...06:51
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puls1oni want to see in my files system the others prtitions of my HDD, they are 2 in NTS and 1 in FAT32, how can i do that? now, in my /etc/mnt , i don't see anything06:51
ivoksd0z: http://www.grad.hr/~ivoks/ubuntu/wifi-radar_1.9.3-0ubuntu2_i386.deb06:51
GerrathShuddertrix, Thanks for the help, I just searched my processes and found the udevd is running so I guess Ubuntu does use edev.06:51
shido6how do i make my network appear to be the domain bleh.bleh.bleh06:51
shido6?06:51
danbaEchelon-H: I was in xchat trying to see how to do it...but I left this scrolled up.06:51
rekapuls1on: ubuntuguide.org06:51
GerrathShuddertrix, I mean udev..typo06:51
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Echelon-Hdanba, Oh.. thanks anyway, i hope it'll work06:51
d0zivoks: Well I downloaded it from http://www.bitbuilder.com/wifi_radar/.06:51
Echelon-Hi just dont wanna reset now06:51
ivoksd0z: no, man...06:51
danbaEchelon-H: do you hit connect after you change the name06:51
danba?06:51
ivoksah..06:51
puls1onthat's all?06:51
danbahaha, d0z:-p06:52
tarvidwhich modems does ubuntu recognize and configure directly?06:52
Echelon-Hdanba, now I did06:52
Echelon-Hbut i doubt it'll work06:52
danbano, puls1on, Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Ubuntu peuvent venir sur #ubuntu-fr for one... then also, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions .06:52
d0zivoks: ?? confused isn't it the same piece of software?06:52
nihaoI see nothing in firefox when accessing http://www.gou-gou.com/cgi-bin/bbs/leobbs.cgi, why?06:52
danbaechelon, sometimes it does, try...:)06:52
danbanihao, to start off...06:52
puls1onmerci beaucoup :) :)06:52
ivoksd0z: this one is packaged for ubuntu06:52
ogi_puls1on, http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs06:52
Echelon-Hi'll reboot only to see if it works06:53
Echelon-HWish me luck...06:53
rekadanba: i'm impressed.06:53
ivoksd0z: it autom. recognizes your card, shows in menu, has man page, etc, etc...06:53
danbapuls1on: got that from the bot, though, I dont speak french, altho I am in Canada now.06:53
iceman2Kcool .. installing ubuntu on my wifes pc ..06:53
nihaodanba: what do you mean??06:53
danbareka: by what? Ive been here for a while...06:53
rekadanba: i'm not impressed anymore06:53
ivoksd0z: upstream version doesn't have all of that06:53
danbanihao means hi,.06:53
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danbaso I said, hi, to start off.06:53
iceman2Kcan just do a file xfer of the repositories06:53
reka:-)06:53
puls1onthx all, u 're nice  :)06:53
IcemanV9iceman2K: ha. does ur wife know about this?! ;)06:54
danbaman, that echelon-h needs to sstop rebooting.06:54
danbayoure welcome, puls1on.06:54
slonyes, youre welcome...06:54
nihaodanba: glad to know that you know it. 06:54
slonah....06:54
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danbanihao, that is unfortunately as much as I know of chinese, except xie xie...06:55
iceman2KIcemanV9 yep ... could not control her windows 98 ... to many viruses06:55
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d0zivoks: Ok, iv'e changed package now.06:55
IcemanV9iceman2K: heh. glad that your wife is willing to use Ubuntu as mine did. :)06:56
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rekaicemen: i love convert stories. :-)06:56
iceman2KIcemanV9 i'm impressed by ubuntu .. more that a lot of distros ...06:56
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mindspinreka really?06:56
_hp_i kind of want to go back to windows to run my photoshop cs2, itunes and 3ds max06:56
ivoksd0z: start it from menu or sudo wifi-radar06:56
d0zivoks: This is what I get. First column a question mark. Then it's locked, good signal, managed, and the incredible performance that 802.11g delivers. :)06:56
rekamindspin: yes, really.06:56
_hp_still windows free though06:56
Echelon-H_hp_, wine?06:56
nihao:-) OK, maybe you also know "zai jian" means good bye or c u...06:56
slonI worship danba too...cause he is very much like me...06:57
mindspinwanna here how I became atheist ? haha ;-)06:57
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_hp_Echelon-H: wine runs only photoshop 7.0 and 3ds max will not start at all06:57
ivoksd0z: click connect06:57
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slept_hp_, did you try gimp blender amarok ?06:57
Echelon-H_hp_, i see...06:57
mofbye06:57
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ivoksd0z: enter your WEP key and you should be good06:57
_hp_slept: i've tried gimp... it's a far shot from photoshop cs206:57
danbagimpshop?06:57
iceman2KI still cant find the "ANY KEY" on my keyboard ...06:57
rekamindspin: that's not really a conversion.  wouldn't that be rejection> :-)06:58
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danbanihao: yeah, I knew taht, too, youre right.06:58
Echelon-Hiceman2K, hehee06:58
cainedo any of you guys use apollon?06:58
_hp_slept: does blender have a reactor type deal?06:58
mindspinok, depends of your point of view06:58
danbakam bej, too:)06:58
slept_hp_, never used photoshop06:58
Echelon-Hiceman2K, reminds me of StarCraft *drop of tear*06:58
danbakam bei06:58
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rekamindspin: lol, i guess06:58
mindspinkam bei was ?06:59
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danbacaine, why, I dont...06:59
_hp_slept: i find it a lot better and easier to use than gimp because i am so used to it06:59
caineif anybody could help me fix apollon that would gr806:59
caineidk whats wrong with it06:59
danbamindspin, cheers in mandarin chinese.06:59
iceman2KDang wish loki software were available ..06:59
mindspinI c06:59
caineit it gives me this "Sorry, I couldn't locate your giFT installation,please select the path to your giFT like /.../share/giFT"06:59
slept_hp_, I can't tell  I tryed to use it long time ago and there were many many ...06:59
nihaodanba: can you solve my technical problem? it seems that firefox can't render the page for correctly http://www.gou-gou.com/cgi-bin/bbs/leobbs.cgi06:59
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slept_hp_, blender07:00
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pestilencedanba: it's "gan bei" not "kam bej"07:00
danbacaine, Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement.  Does it sit on the couch all day?  Does it want more money?  Does it waste its time on IRC all day long?  Please be specific!  Define 'it' and what it isn't doing.07:00
danbapestilence: thank you.07:00
_hp_slept: at least blender is cheaper than 3ds max ;) ... makes upgrading a lot easier07:00
cainedanba:  your a little late07:00
cainecaine it it gives me this "Sorry, I couldn't locate your giFT installation,please select the path to your giFT like /.../share/giFT"07:00
dr_willis:)07:00
rekadanba: hehe, give him a break.07:00
ezequielhow could I get the flash player working in my ubuntu for amd64?07:00
danbacaine, that is what dpkg on #debian says when you say dont work:)07:00
cainelol07:01
danbaI just went to get it, I like the statement:)07:01
rekadanba: egads, you've run into dpkg as well?07:01
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caineyou need to work on ur timing07:01
dr_willisezequiel,  good luck :P i think its going to take a little work.07:01
caineso can anybody help me07:01
rekadanba: is he really a bot?07:01
caineit it gives me this "Sorry, I couldn't locate your giFT installation,please select the path to your giFT like /.../share/giFT"07:01
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mindspinlocate giFT ?07:02
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ezequieldr_willis, can't it be wrapped through the linux32?07:02
danbayes, he is a bot.07:02
rekadanba: well don't i look stupid.  i called him an oaf!07:03
rekalmao07:03
danbacaine, would you like to try sudo aptitude install gtk-gnutella ? or do you need to use apollon?07:03
cknwingsI'm having a issue with error during boot of ubuntu, pci...lotsonumber. @ata;3 blahblahblah.. basicly my install is hosted, i need to repair it, but ive 150gb of data i dont want to loose in the /home folder... would i loose this by running a Repair (if there is such a thing)?07:03
danbanihao: this is what tghe top of the page looks like on my computer... www.mts.net/~danb/Screenshot-5.png07:04
cknwingswiki has 0 relevant hits on repair intsallation, google basicly the same... how can this be? :)07:04
danbanihao, is that the right way for the page to be?07:04
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danbareka, well, somewhat:)07:04
sleptcknwings, do you have ext3 filesystem ?07:04
danbayoull learn.07:04
danbamakes you look new, to me...07:04
cknwingsyes ext3, and im able to mout teh drive and read the data by running the livcCD07:05
danbapeople with a small vocabulary may choose stupid...07:05
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cknwingsslept, i just dont have another drive to pit it all... heh, then id just copy it and reintsall everything with new partition for /home but thats to late now i guess07:05
roshlamewhen i start xine-ui there is this message on the window title "xine: There is no mrl."07:05
sleptcknwings, for fschk you don't mount the drive07:06
lillisI am having some major issues with ubuntu/fluxbox and fonts.. I can see the fonts in xfontsel, and I can use "aterm -font edges" to get the edges font in aterm et cetera... but the styles refuse to pick up the new fonts. What can I possibly do wrong? I have the swedish artwiz fonts and i have tried "Egdes.se" "edges.se" "Edges" and "edges", nothing works.07:06
danbapestilence: you can imagine why someone would learn gan bei wrong;)07:06
roshlameit plays avi files but i don't hear any sound07:06
ogi_What distros support r/w on NTFS?07:06
rekalol.  iirc they someone told me dpkg was a bot but i didn't register it.  basically i asked a question about dpkg and had links to an ubuntu pastebin.  so i guess someone invoked the bot.  he said something like "just because the morons in #ubuntu couldn't help doesn't mean you can dump your question here."07:06
cknwingsogi, none afaik, the w feature is very unstable and not recommended07:07
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danbareka, nice...07:07
Timbo#debian is pretty poor for the OMG N00B FLAME HIM syndrome07:07
danbaTimbo: how often do you go there?07:07
Fikrannogi_, none. You might be interested in Captive ntfs driver, but be warned, its VERY SLOW07:08
d0zivoks: Wow, that program was simple. But it didn't work.07:08
rekaTimbo: yes, i learned that.07:08
cknwingsslept, ill try to run fschk, but if i want to Reinstall the system WITHOUT touching the content in /hom is this possible?07:08
Timbodanba: whenever i have a debian problem07:08
Timbothat i can't solve myself07:08
ivoksd0z: then your AP is broken07:08
danbaso pretty often?07:08
Timboor via the bts07:08
ivoksd0z: you didn't set it up well07:08
danbaI mean, more than 4 times?07:09
d0zivoks: No it's not because my neighbour is using it aswell.07:09
ivoksd0z: don't use WEP, it's crap...07:09
nihaodanba: yes! but my firefox is unable to display it. just blank page....07:09
ivoksd0z: do you have MAC filter maybe?07:09
sleptcknwings, why do you want to reinstall ? Did you mess up things that bad ?07:09
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cainedanba: i just need to use a file sharing system like kazaa or gnutella that works07:09
d0zivoks: Yes I know. But that's the only thing that my neighbours crappy d-link can handle.07:09
danbanihao, it uses flash and java, probably.07:09
AvinoamI understand that Ubuntu doesn't let you use root?07:09
caineand apollon came with it so i installed it07:09
cainebut its not working correctly07:09
dr_willisAvinoam,  thats totally false. :P07:09
ivoksd0z: ?07:09
danbacaine, then do the install command I told you, are you in kde?07:09
ivoksd0z: d-links can filter on MAC address07:10
dr_willisAvinoam,  you just cant 'login' straight to root. (but thats eaially changed)07:10
AvinoamDr, that's what distrowatch said07:10
Avinoamoh i see07:10
d0zivoks: I do filter pretty hard but not on mac yet. I think. Perhaps I should look into that.07:10
JuhazAvinoam, ubuntu doesn't let you log in as root, but it does let you use it trough sudo07:10
danbanihao: do you awnt to install flash and Java?07:10
Avinoamthey said on distrowatch to use sudo?07:10
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caineand yet if i knew what kde was i could answer that ?07:10
sleptdanba, caine ,aMule is nice for filesharing07:10
Timbodanba: yes07:10
Avinoamsudo and then whatever command?07:10
dr_willisdistrowatch is wrong then :P07:10
ivoksd0z: for start, set up your AP as open, without any filtering07:10
rekaAvinoam: yes.07:10
caineim gettin gnutella now07:10
d0zivoks: Yes I know but MAC filter isn't that safe either.07:10
ivoksd0z: then try to connect07:10
Avinoamok07:10
nihaodanba: I have installed flash and java. for other pages, they work.07:10
Avinoami'm gonna burn the CD07:10
ivoksd0z: if that works, then harden your AP07:11
danbatimbo, cool, just wondering, a lot of trolls there, I agree, ithe whole channel altogether is not too bad, it does not hurt to flame newbies sometimes, to teach them.07:11
nihaodanba: I don't if this "cgi" service matters...07:11
lillisI am having some major issues with ubuntu/fluxbox and fonts.. I can see the fonts in xfontsel, and I can use "aterm -font edges" to get the edges font in aterm et cetera... but the styles refuse to pick up the new fonts. What can I possibly do wrong? I have the swedish artwiz fonts and i have tried "Egdes.se" "edges.se" "Edges" and "edges", nothing works.07:11
cainei have flash installed but i think there somthing wrong somewhere on my comp07:11
danbashouldnt. It is server side.07:11
caineor i havnt installed something07:11
cainebecause some stuff for flash wont work07:11
caineand other will07:11
d0zivoks: I'll try some more, thanks for all the help both you ivoks and danba.07:11
Timboyes, it's almost fair enough in #debian or #gentoo07:11
caineand all of them were using flash 707:11
cknwingswell, i booted and i get a funny error..."/pci@800000000/pci-bridge/pci-ata@1/@0/disk@0;3,boot/vmlinux:input / output error07:11
Fikrannlillis, use fluxconf?07:11
ivoksd0z: bottom line: you wifi works07:11
Timbobut it pains me to see people get flamed for not knowing what 'ls' is for example07:12
lillishuh?07:12
ivoksd0z: it can connect to you wifi network, but it is closed four you07:12
Timbowhen they're made a genuine effort to try something new (linux)07:12
cknwingsand as far as i can see that error occured after a synaptic update... i just dont know which (a friends got exactly teh same error and he had to reinstall to fix it)07:12
ogi_How am I going to get files quckly and painlessly from ubuntu tu windows...07:12
cainedanba: now what do i do....go to synaptic?07:12
rekaTimbo: i agree07:12
lillisFikrann: How/where?07:12
caineogi: ur not07:12
d0zivoks: My wifi works for my my neigbour but not for me yet. Well I have TP so it's not that urgent.07:12
cainei have the same problem07:12
Avinoamhopefully, i'll be back here after i install and get internet working07:12
rekabut then again i was flamed myself07:12
Avinoam:)07:12
ivoksd0z: your wifi card WORKS07:12
d0zivoks: Yes, that's correct. :)07:12
caineogi: what ever you do, do not get wine07:12
rekaAvinoam: good luck07:12
Avinoamthank you07:13
Fikrannlillis, there's a tool, fluxconf, it might be able to set fonts for fluxbox.07:13
ivoksd0z: you don't have to do anything on ubuntu07:13
caineogi: go find a free version of crossover07:13
ivoksd0z: only on your AP07:13
caineor buy it07:13
danbatimbo, yeah, sure...07:13
ogi_caine, why is that? :P07:13
danbabut, caine is about to get flamed...07:13
Timbohehe07:13
danbacaine, please lay off the enter...07:13
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sleptcknwings, you can resize the partition, then create a new one with lvm copy things and then shrink your old  partition again and  resize the lvm and so on till you have copyied your whole /home07:13
cainedanba: ?07:13
lillisFikrann,thank you Fikrann, I will see if it works07:13
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danbajust press enter less often.07:14
caineoh07:14
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cainesry i type faster than i think lol07:14
cainesometiems07:14
caine*times07:14
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ogi_:D07:14
danbaANyhow, I do it too. Have you sudo aptitude gtk-gnutella?07:14
d0zivoks: Well, wifi-radar did manage to change settings I couldn't manually with iwconfig. Everything looks fine but traffic doesn't flow.07:14
cainedanba: yes i have07:14
cainenow what07:14
ivoksd0z: does your AP has dhcp server on it?07:14
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danbacaine: now, Apps>Internet>gtk-gnutella, or gtk-gnutella in a terminal...07:15
d0zivoks: No. I only have a couple of computers so I don't see any need for it.07:15
cknwingsslept OMG, heh id rather just buya new drive.. man is it REALLY not possible just to fix a Ubuntu installation?.. i mean its boasted about this in the Ubuntu WIKI that, ubuntu is much easier to fix and repair in case of problems... but what i can see and find its about in the same area as win3.11 regarding this, not winxp :)07:15
cainesweet07:15
danbacknwings: what is broken?07:15
ivoksd0z: lol i have only one, but i have dhcp :)07:15
caineso i guess now its completely installed?07:16
ivoksd0z: then, you configured your IP, DNS, routing, etc... corectly?07:16
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danbacknwings: if you deleted your whole hard drive, it is not very easy to fix it.07:16
d0zivoks: I used it before, but I don't want it on wireless.07:16
shido6ok I figured it out07:16
danbacaine, yes, well, that program is, I use that one, it is very niceC:)07:16
cknwingsdanba, i didnt delete anyghing.. get error "/pci@800000000/pci-bridge/pci-ata@1/@0/disk@0;3,boot/vmlinux:input / output error at boot ... im still able to mount and get access ot everything on the disk by booting from liveCD07:16
cainecan i d/l videos music software etc?07:16
danbagood stuff, shido6, I believed in you all the time.07:16
caineyes i can07:17
cainegood07:17
cainety07:17
d0zivoks: Yes. I'm an network technician so I got it correct. :) I think. hehe07:17
sleptcknwings, you have to find out what the reason , then you can find out how to fix it ( lvm things are very easy to use - if you can't fix it )07:17
nihaodanba: I have to quit now. mid-night in china already, have a good day, c u!07:17
danbasee, that is the enter I mean, caine.07:17
cainesry07:17
danbayou too, thank you nihao.07:17
ivoksd0z: and your /etc/resolv.conf has right DNS namerservers?07:17
danbacaine, dont be sorry, change it, that is all.07:17
cainehey now how do i completely uninstall apollon through terminal07:17
cknwingsdanba, friend got Exactly the same error using the same old school mac g4 :), cant imagine HW issue07:17
d0zivoks: Yes, everything is correct.07:17
d0zivoks: Otherwise i wouldn't talk to you now. :)07:18
ivoksd0z: ifconfig | grep inet07:18
ivoksd0z: ?07:18
lillisArgggghhhhhh!!07:18
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d0zivoks: I'm on TP now.07:18
ivoksd0z: i'm takling about you computer with wifi card07:18
_kevinI can't get gparted to open on Ubuntu07:18
Fikranncknwings, you have problems with lvm?07:18
_kevinit says scanning07:18
_kevinand then just disappears07:18
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d0zivoks: It's the same computer. :)07:18
lillisFikrann: It couldn't change anything like that.. I tried pointing it to a new theme file just doing "*Font: anorexia" but it still doesn't work.07:18
cainedanba: how do i completely uninstall apollon?07:18
ivoksd0z: then how do you know it isn't working?07:18
danbacaine, thank you, I saw it the first time, too.07:18
caineoh sorry07:19
knewthow do i get the old-style file open dialog back with gtk2?07:21
ogi_Well, let's say I try crossover. What are the downsides with it except that it's slow?07:21
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Fikrannlilis, sorry .. I never really understood how fluxbox finds its fonts, since the X font descriptor doesn't always work.07:22
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(isai/#ubuntu) jfletcher: www.gentoo.org user guides.07:37
(jfletcher/#ubuntu) Fator_Dee: i wanna put my usb stuff in there, also for bluetooth07:37
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(newbie/#ubuntu) frankly I have no idea as to why does GNOME splash the message that I just mentioned.07:37
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isaidoes any one here know how to view windows shares over the network?07:38
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dbernar1_newbie, well, does it do something bad, do some applcations really not run?07:39
sleptisai , samba07:39
pfpisai: top menu - places - network servers07:39
isaislept: any good samba startup guides?07:39
newbieyes07:39
newbieI can connect online through the live cd perfect07:39
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cainehey where do the files i d/l on gnutella go07:40
cainelol07:40
newbiebut the installed version is giving a problem07:40
pfpafaik you don't need to configure samba if you just want to access other ppls shares07:40
sleptisai, you can install swat which has nice docs with it07:40
cainenm07:40
sleptisai, do you want to have a server or a client ?07:40
WldRbitXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".07:40
WldRbitglxgears: Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual.07:40
WldRbitanybody got that ?07:40
newbieSystem>Preferences works fine. When I click on Networking to use dial up, there is an icon that shows that it is about to load up. Heck. It doesnt start up07:41
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isaislept: both, but first I want to test the client.07:41
sleptisai , with smbtree you can see what' available07:41
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IIIEars_jcaine - likely in your "home/username/gnutella" folder" - you may need to enable "Show hidden folders"07:41
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ShuddertrixWldRbit: You don't have a accelerated driver in your xorg.conf, or you didn't add the GLX extension to your xorg.conf07:41
newbieIs that some kind of a bug?07:42
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(tiny_linux/#ubuntu) somebody else, can help me to setting up mail server10:00
(dbernar1_/#ubuntu) um, can you use the dvd player as a data reading device, rather than a dvd moive player?10:00
(hhurtta/#ubuntu) how do i change locale from utf-8 to say, iso8859 or so?10:00
(DekaPink/#ubuntu) dbernarl_: That's okay.... I don't think I want to install it after all... It wasn't something I -needed-, just something I wanted to play with. ^^10:00
dbernar1_tiny_linux, please give more informatiion when asking, otherwise noone will be able to help you.10:01
Fikrannhhurtta, why do you want to move from the universal character set?10:01
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poochieman i am starting to have all sorts of problems10:01
hhurttaFikrann: utf8 has some issues with ie. scands10:02
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hhurttathat is  or 10:02
hhurttafor example10:02
yoorfuck it, it doesn't work10:02
dbernar1_dekapink, if you can make your /etc/apt/sources.list file look like www.mts.net/~danb/sources.list you can easily use synaptic's search function, for name and description, to search for programs, and install and play with them.10:02
shido6how do I make a bootdisk for my system in an .iso form10:02
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Fikrannhhurtta, what is scands?10:03
dbernar1_yoor, please dont swear, what doesn t work? have you tried using a data DVD with that drive?10:03
dbernar1_scandinavian.10:03
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cainegnutella keeps crashing!!10:03
yonilIs there a way using lsap to check what is using my sound card ?10:03
hhurttaletters like  and 10:03
=== XandriX is tired of waiting for his cds lol
caineit was working now its crashing10:03
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shido6hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc10:03
shido6hdparm -d1 /dev/hdd10:03
yoorno10:04
DekaPinkdbernarl_: Okey doke.... Currently, my sources.list is like how they tell you to put it at ubuntuguide.org10:04
yoordone, ever done..!10:04
shido6do that on your dma interfaces10:04
shido6no more crashing10:04
dbernar1_DekaPink, dont read that, read www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ first10:04
yonilBhaaa what is the command ? something like "lsap"10:04
dbernar1_there is a search function, DekaPink .10:04
yonilto check what devices applications are using10:04
yoori've got all the required libraries and I'm sure I have ever read a dvd10:05
poochiemy ati drivers aren't working, i followed this wiki guide http://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto10:05
caineok now its working for some odd reason10:05
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poochiehoary version10:05
dbernar1_yonil, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26567&highlight=oss+alsa10:05
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dbernar1_caine, you keeop doing this:)10:06
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rts23hi folks if someone (e.g. my dad) is a complete beginner to linux and isn't very computer-savvy, where should he start?10:06
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cainewell i had to restart my comp because it froze and was saying that it couldnt grab my mouse10:07
caineoh and that a milicious person might be trying to get into my comp...10:07
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tiny_linuxinstalling mail server howto10:07
yoorokay, it works, I removed completely xine-ui and reinstalled it10:07
tiny_linuxi really need it10:07
angela_anyone know how to aptget java and macomedia flash10:07
yoorthanks for your cooperation10:07
yoorciao ciao10:07
JormundgandApparently Ubuntu's version of Xfce doesn't like my monitor going into standby and is outdated and requires a bugfix.10:07
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avinoamwoohoo10:07
avinoami got it to work10:07
tibalOther question about Nautilus and gnome-volume-manager : automount now work in /media but still nothing appears in "My computer"10:09
dbernar1_Jormundgand, how are your fx and tbrd logos:-p?10:09
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Jormundganddbernarl: I used the "replace the icons" script, but About logos are still nasty.10:10
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tibalis it a nautilus configuration ? or is it depending on Gnome I haven't ?10:11
avinoamanyone here use skype?10:11
uga_hola10:11
tibalavinoam, i have it10:11
icemancrap how to install java with aptget10:11
avinoamtibal i dkpged it and it won't start10:11
uga_someone speak spanish?10:11
avinoamit makes a beep and then nothing10:11
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linuxalienI read the faq on root, but I have a program that even if you start it from a console in root, it asks for the root password later on in the config and it never seems to take...says it can't complete the command or something.  Any tricks to get around this?10:12
cainehey if the video on this page works for the rest of you then i want to know why it wont for me...http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=13559912&blogID=27789783&Mytoken=2005053113111310:12
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tibalavinoam, where did you downloaded it ?10:12
Maidenbhi i have a urgent problem10:12
Maidenbplease10:12
Maidenbhelpme10:12
avinoamit's in Internet now10:12
avinoamafter the dkpg10:12
danko123456!es10:12
avinoami deleted the .deb after unpackaging10:12
raDeonMaidenb, you idiot, we aren't mind readers10:12
raDeonwtf do you want from us10:12
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Maidenbok10:13
medkithas someone of you ppl a printer attached to a router's parallel port and is printing via cups?10:13
danko123456Para los usuarios Ubuntu de habla hispa?a que requieren la ayuda, ensamble por favor el canal del #ubuntu-es10:13
linuxalienbbl gonna try something10:13
tibalI used the one provided by the "Ubuntu guide"10:13
Hikaru79Does Hoary come with OpenOffice 1.1 or 2.0? And if it comes with 1.1, is there a backport or anything for 2.0?10:13
tibalIt works great10:13
Maidenbi have put aMule in sesion10:13
avinoamtibal what is the http://?10:13
Maidenbrun at startup10:14
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danko123456haha, nice to see you are back, radeon.10:14
raDeon:)10:14
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cainedoes the video on this link work for any of you? http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=13559912&blogID=27789783&Mytoken=2005053113111310:14
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tibalavinoam, http://ubuntuguide.org/#skype10:14
Maidenbplease helpme10:14
danko123456lol....so blatant....10:14
angela_anyone know the command for aptitude install "for java"10:14
ilbahranyone know about a good program where i can put comments in pdf file like the proffessional ADOBE ver10:15
danko123456Maidenb: first of all, I guess...what language do you speak?10:15
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avinoamthe ubuntu site is running so slowly!!!10:15
Maidenbnothing10:16
St0n3-C0llol10:16
St0n3-C0lanyone with i810 video card ?10:16
raDeonLOL\10:16
dbernar1_Maidenb, please tell us, we think your first language is not english, is this true?10:16
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raDeonwhat language do you speak? "nothing" LMAO10:16
Maidenbjaja10:16
Maidenbim argent10:16
dbernar1_ok, great...10:16
avinoamor maybe it's my internet connection10:17
danko123456Maidenb: Para los usuarios Ubuntu de habla hispa?a que requieren la ayuda, ensamble por favor el canal del #ubuntu-es  may help /join #ubuntu-es10:17
raDeonMaidenb, #ubuntu-es10:17
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caineok i really need help ppl...http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=13559912&blogID=27789783&Mytoken=20050531131113....does it work or not?10:17
i3dmasterSt0n3-C0l: I am using i810 on board card10:17
danko123456if not, come back, and tell us if you want to add amule to your startup programs in gnome.10:17
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avinoamdamn it10:18
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St0n3-C0li3dmaster: please check glxinfo and temme if ur direct rendering is enabled or not10:18
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danko123456caine, I think you screwed up the link, I dont think the link even works.10:18
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totoHi people! Anyone knows how to change global charset default in ubuntu?10:19
dbernar1_crap, my head is gonna explode.10:19
angela_i have apt-get ... cant get java ..10:19
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Maidenbdont have anyone10:20
Maidenbplease helpme here10:20
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i3dmasterSt0n3-C0l: direct rendering: Yes10:20
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St0n3-C0langela_: add lines of backports in /etc/apt/sources.list and then 'apt-get install sun-j2re'10:20
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Maidenbplease10:21
dbernar1_St0n3-C0l, well, he could do that...or, he could read www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java and try to learn how to do it... either way, he is likely to be back with more questions.10:21
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danko123456okok, Ill help you.10:21
St0n3-C0lalright10:22
Maidenbsystem---preferences---sesions10:22
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angela_no ... just on a small screen and can see ... 800x600 resolution sucks10:22
danko123456Maidenb, estas trying to addicionar amule to your startup programs?10:22
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Maidenbyessssssssssssssss10:22
Maidenbbut the splash screen stop10:22
danko123456ok, well, one s works...10:22
gbicErr http://backports.ubuntuforums.org hoary-backports/main Packages10:23
gbic  401 Authorization Required10:23
geordihi guys, I'm back, I'm trying to get phpMyAdmin to see mysql10:23
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gbichmm, I have added the keys....anyone else having issues?10:23
Vince#ubuntu-meeting10:23
St0n3-C0lgbic: Use other mirros10:23
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danko123456maidenb, please diga me quien es el command to start amule des un terminal.10:23
geordiI installed mysql, and I know it's running10:23
gbicI have others, just wondering why these ones are down10:23
MaidenbaMule10:23
Maidenbis the command10:23
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netgrabberHi, I try to print a mail from thunderbird, but I habe no blanks on the paper. I'm using the HP 710C printer. Printing from gedit is ok10:24
St0n3-C0lgbic: LOL I also don't know :P10:24
thesaltydogany chance to have an help on a bastard running fan on Pentium 4 desktop??10:24
geordibut, I get the "cannot load mysql extension please check php configuration", and it suggests I install a package called php-mysql, but I could find no such thing10:24
St0n3-C0llast time I accessed was giving 403 Forbidden10:24
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gbicodd10:24
gbicmaybe they are fixing it10:24
Hikaru79Does Hoary come with OpenOffice 1.1 or 2.0? And if it comes with 1.1, is there a backport or anything for 2.0?10:24
gbicwho knows10:24
St0n3-C0lhikaru79: OpenOffice 1.13 maybe10:25
Hikaru79St0n3-C0l, darn =/ And no backport of 2.0 exists?10:25
thesaltydogwhy my fan i quite in windows and loud in Hoary?10:25
St0n3-C0lHikaru79: There's openoffice2 available in the repos10:25
Hikaru79Oh, excellent! So it *is* there?10:25
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St0n3-C0lYeah, I think10:26
danko123456Maidenb: por favor open un terminal, and type in aMule and hit enter.10:26
St0n3-C0ljust check Synaptic10:26
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Maidenbok10:26
Maidenbbut10:26
Maidenbcant how to open terminal10:26
medkiti don't understand the gnome printer panel. I just want to add ipp://192.168.2.100/lp as the CUPS device url. What do i see on 127.0.0.1: the device url changed to http://192.168.2.100:631/lp10:26
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Maidenband how cant open chat in terminal10:26
Shidohow do I make an iso bootdisk for my ubuntu?10:26
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medkitcrap10:26
danko123456Applications>System Tools>Terminal Maidenb.10:27
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avinoamHow the heck do I run synaptic?10:27
angela_freaqkin package manager10:27
danko123456medkit: means taht is the port they are talking on.10:27
avinoamWhere is it?10:27
cainehttp://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=13559912&blogID=27789783&Mytoken=200505311311110:27
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danko123456angela_: it is in gnome.10:27
danko123456kynaptic;)10:27
danko123456oh, well, whoever.10:27
ilbahri do a lot of review work most of the material is in pdf format anyone know about a program that is similar to ADOBE in adding comments to pdf files10:27
Maidenbbut the ubuntu stop in spashscreen10:27
danko123456avinoam: you hit System>Admin>Synaptic10:28
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medkitdanko123456, but :631 is not right. I have not entered it. It is wrong. the printer listens to 192.168.2.100/lp10:28
avinoamthanks10:28
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Hikaru79St0n3-C0l, I can't check synaptic yet, I'm *considering* a move to Ubuntu from Gentoo10:28
danko123456Maidenb: so you cant get inside your gnome-session at all?10:28
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Maidenbno10:28
St0n3-C0lAhh..10:28
St0n3-C0lNice Idea10:28
angela_ho to turn on root access .. to rewrite sources.list ?10:29
medkitdanko123456, and not at 192.168.2.100:631/lp10:29
Maidenby can put the username and pass10:29
Maidenbbut in spashscreen stop10:29
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ralfhi all10:29
danko123456I dont know then, medkit, i WOULD THINK IT LISTENS TO A PORT, NOT AN ip, sorry about the caps...10:29
tanekhow do i get my volume manager-icon back on my gnome panel, it just disappeared and I cant get it by right click -> add item10:29
ralfthe ubuntu dvd is also live?10:29
rts23hello, me again.  enyone know how to read Ebooks or where to get a reader for them?10:29
danko123456Maidenb: please try hitting the session bvutton before you sign in, and choose failsafe gnome. Once you are signed in, remove what you added to the session10:30
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Maidenbok10:30
medkitdanko123456, the device listens to a queue. The queue is /lp.10:30
Maidenbthanks10:30
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danko123456rts23: sudo aptitude install xchm10:32
avinoamhmm having trouble installing skype10:32
avinoamwho was the skype user here?10:32
XandriXomg i want my cds that i order like the 12th of april10:32
danko123456rts23: a better question is how do I popen .chm files...:)10:32
medkitdanko123456, you brought me an idea, i'll scan the router with nessus and look what ports are open. I cannot change the queue's name but maybe i can redirect a port...10:32
danko123456I m,ean, better, one that not only the person that knows which forrmat the eBook is in can answer;)10:33
avinoamdanko are you on skype?10:33
danko123456medkit: unfortunately, 67% of teh time, that is all I am good for, giving ideas.10:33
danko123456avinoam: somewhat, never used it so far, waiting to find out.10:33
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avinoamdanko have you installed it?10:33
danko123456yeah, it is in my panel menu...10:34
medkitdanko123456, sufficent most of the time.10:34
gubhi10:34
avinoamwhere did you get the lib?10:34
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anto9ushello :)10:35
avinoamdanko?10:35
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i3dmasterSt0n3-C0l: sorry got diverted. what are you asking?10:35
danko123456avinoam: no libs, I got the binary file from their site....please be more patient, I was doing something else.10:35
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avinoamit's ok i thought maybe you didn't see the msg10:35
danko123456!hi anto9us10:35
avinoamanyone else here use skype?10:35
ubotudanko123456: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?10:35
gubI repacked the libx11-dev & libx11-6 packages with the keys patch (ctrl key bug...)  https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/attachment.cgi?id=2552.10:35
avinoamdanko i did too but try running ot now does it open?10:36
gubI have called it libx11-6_6.8.2-20-1 ?10:36
danko123456yes, it does work, avinoam.10:36
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gubis it a good version number ?10:36
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avinoamthat's odd mine won't open10:36
janjanhi guys, cdrecord -scanbus says can't read SCSI driver, I'm sure cd writer reads cds, any idea? Thank you10:37
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danko123456no, yours iis odd, nmine is not..:-p10:37
avinoamhehe10:37
avinoamit just beeps and then nothing10:37
danko123456well, you did say it that way..10:37
danko123456:)10:37
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gubany maintainer can help me10:37
danko123456I agree, they all can.10:37
syndhow do you change the trashcan icons?10:37
tanekwhats up with this: "http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)" ?10:38
anto9usgub: have you tried #ubuntu-dev?10:38
dbernar1_anto9us, have you>?10:38
gububuntu-dev ?10:39
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anto9usdbernar1_: sorry, what do you mean?10:39
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St0n3-C0lanyguy using i810 video card ??10:39
dbernar1_did you try that channel?10:39
avinoamwait how do i update the list in synaptic?10:39
dbernar1_avinoam, arent you using that card?10:39
dbernar1_you hit reaload10:39
anto9usdbernar1_: yes, with regard to oem stuff, why?10:39
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avinoami don't think it's getting that from the web10:40
Fanskapetahh got my Radeon Mobility 9700 to work with ATI's official driver in xorg.. after much trouble :D10:40
avinoami want more files to be available10:40
avinoamor can't i do that?10:40
gubanto9us: there is no ubuntu-dev channel10:40
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avinoami need libqt3c102-mt10:40
dbernar1_cause, try now, anto9us .  #ubuntu-dev10:40
dbernar1_but dont comment on your attempt here, please.10:41
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japoederThis may be a really stupid question, but I am a complete noob when it comes to Linux.  Is there anything I need to do in order to burn dvds and/or iso images?10:41
anto9uswhere'd it go?10:41
dbernar1_anto9us, please dont send random ppl to channels...10:41
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jdodsonjapoeder: if you have a cd/dvd burner and are using gnome 2.8 or higher, just right click the iso and select burn.10:41
delltonyhi ihave a question not really sure how to go about resolving this issue so thats why i am here. for some reason my laptop seems to be running very slow. as if the harddrive is majorly fragmented but i thought linux didn't fragment. in any case i run top and don't see anything to my knowledge out of the ordinary. but again mys ystem seems to be lagging as if its having a hard time doing io request. any suggestions on this would be a10:41
delltonyppreciated big time.10:41
i3dmasterSt0n3-C0l: what are you asking for ?10:41
geordiwhat package do I need to access mysql from a php script?10:41
slawekI've just found a directory /.Trash-root. du reports it eats up 6GB of space... can I delete it?10:41
anto9usaah.. ubuntu-devel10:42
jdodsonslawek: sure.  its basically the trash bin for the root account.10:42
i3dmasterSt0n3-C0l: ok. sorry was diverted to some other stuff10:42
japoederhow can I find out if I have gnome 2.8?10:42
synd.10:42
syndhow do you change the trashcan icons?10:42
dbernar1_an10:42
japoederI'm using ubuntu 5.0410:42
i3dmasterSt0n3-C0l: how?10:42
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jdodsonjapoeder: warty is gnome 2.8, hoary is gnome 2.1010:42
jdodsonjapoeder: you have gnome 2.10 you are fine:)10:42
anto9usdbernar1_: I thought they may have an answer to gubs question10:42
avinoamso the question is why doesn't skype work?10:43
St0n3-C0li3dmaster: PVT :)10:43
dbernar1_anto9us, did you think about whether they want his question:-p no, dont worry, anyhow, I was told not to send ppl there.10:43
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japoederthanks10:43
jdodsonjapoeder: no problem.10:43
anto9usdbernar1_: seems on topic to me10:43
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dbernar1_yeah, dont worry about it, Im not in the mood for explanations.10:44
St0n3-C0li3dmaster: check your private window :)10:44
MoonshineHi,10:44
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slawekjdodson: but the curious thing is, how come it's so big.. it contans folders like bin, bin (copy), usr, usr (copy)... it seems that entire tree got copied to this trash two times!10:44
i3dmasterSt0n3-C0l: check it out. just sent10:44
St0n3-C0lahan10:44
St0n3-C0lthanks10:44
St0n3-C0lwait10:44
ralfthe ubuntu dvd is also live? or it is used only to install?10:44
slawekjdodson: but thanks for the answer i'll delete it right away10:45
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raDeonWHO CALLED ME10:45
raDeonWHAT U WANT10:45
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Moonshinedose anybody know how to create MSDOS batch files under linux? You know an editor?10:45
pestilenceMoonshine: vi?10:46
francesco_hello... Applications -> System Tools -> New login.... how can I get a new login WINDOWED?10:46
danko123456slawek, you know, its funny, all the girls ask me the same question........... woot....10:46
anto9usMoonshine: pico is quite easy but my preference is vi for simple text editing10:46
St0n3-C0li3dmaster: again pvt :-D10:46
i3dmasterSt0n3-C0l: sure np.10:46
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danko123456francesco_: xnest?10:46
St0n3-C0lthanks :)10:46
i3dmasterSt0n3-C0l: sent, check10:46
St0n3-C0lahh10:47
St0n3-C0lwait10:47
avinoamanyone on skype?10:47
Moonshineyou know one for KDE?10:47
danko123456!it10:47
ubotuunless you tell us what it is, don't be expecting much. Some of us are pretty good mind readers, but not THAT good.10:47
slawekdanko123456: lol10:47
slawek:)10:47
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danko123456yeah, you laugh now...but....10:47
francesco_danko123456: apt-getting it10:47
francesco_thanx10:47
danko123456one sec10:47
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danko123456#ubuntu-it10:48
St0n3-C0li3dmaster: Received, Thanks alot :)10:48
i3dmasterSt0n3-C0l: yw. hope it can help10:48
St0n3-C0lyes10:48
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francesco_danko thanx bye bye10:48
anto9usMoonshine: kate perhaps10:48
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delltonyanyone have a good site (please don't tell me google or the manual) that has a good explinatioin of using hpdarm to optimize a harddrive? for some reason my system is lagging big time and i dont' know why10:49
St0n3-C0li3dmaster: Lets pray :)10:49
St0n3-C0lim coming :P10:49
Fator_Deemessing with hdparm is risky business10:50
MoonshineI have already written they in kate. I dont know in wich format ?10:50
anto9usdelltony: have you eliminated other causes first, like filesystem usage?10:50
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delltonyin terms of lookign at top?10:50
delltonyi'm still on the newbie side of town on alot of things so pardon my ignorance10:50
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abisencould anybody help me install mplayer on my ubuntu box .. i am getting all sorts of dependencies error10:51
medkitnote to self: never scan your own router with nesses where a simple port-scan is sufficent10:51
abisenlike Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 is to be installed10:51
=== DekaPink pets Ubuntu.
Fator_Deedelltony: if you don't know what you are doing, you can physically go havoc on you hd with hdparm :-\10:52
Anubishow to ensure the BEST sound queslity outta ubuntu?10:52
pestilenceabisen: what repositories are you using10:52
danko123456DekaPink: ubuntu pets you right back:)10:52
anto9usdelltony: yes, look at what's eating your processor, fam and gam are particular culprits for slowing systems down in my experience10:52
pestilenceabisen: you don't need the marillat repositories10:52
pestilenceabisen: it's in multiverse10:52
delltonyall i have done on hdparm was d1 and c1 thats it10:52
Anubisyes I have ESD set up in gnomes mulitmedia selector10:53
Moonshineanto9us: I have already written they in kate. I dont know in wich format ?10:53
Anubismusic loud sounds distrorted10:53
abisenpestilence, how'd you know that i have marillat10:53
AnubisVVIA chipset10:53
abisenpestilence, :) i'll comment that out10:53
Anubisshould the volume levels remain at half?10:53
pestilenceabisen: lucky guess10:53
Anubisand just increase amps?10:53
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delltonyanto9us, when i load top im looking for memory ususage right?10:53
anto9usMoonshine: text file for dos scripts with a .bat extension10:53
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abisenpestilence, after uncommenting i need todo a apt-get update first right10:54
pestilenceabisen: yes10:54
anto9usdelltony: no, processor usage10:54
danko123456abisen: it is more likely in universe, I think......10:54
Moonshineyoo10:54
slawekdanko123456: with such a TRAIT to carry... life must be interesting, for a lack of better word ;)10:54
amichaican someone tell me how to isntall java?10:54
delltonyok kget is using 89 percent10:54
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delltonythat sucks :(10:54
delltonymaybe thats my roblem right there10:54
danko123456slawek, well, that was the last thing I had to say about that.....10:54
abisenpestilence, thanks it's downloading the files :) thanks10:55
pestilencedanko123456: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/graphics/mplayer-58610:55
danko123456amichai: prolly, www.ubuntuguide.org/#jre and www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java can, likely.10:55
pestilencePackage: mplayer-586 (1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6) [multiverse] 10:55
danko123456in multiverse, pestilence?10:55
rgouldI have 2 GB of ram installed in my machine, but the top command states that total Mem is '906660k'. How do I verify that the system isn't using the other GB, and fix it if it isn't?10:55
amichaidanko123456, i dont have that file in my repos. can u give me a link to good repos? the ubuntu guide repos broke my ubuntu.10:55
dooglushow do you use Xnest?  I see "Server is already active for display 0" when I try running it10:56
danko123456use the other link, then, amichai.10:56
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danko123456dooglus: you go Apps>System Tools>new login in a nested window.10:56
slawekdanko123456, poor you......10:57
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dooglusdanko123456: I've used Apps>System Tools>New Login before, before I installed Xnest10:57
danko123456slawek: why, I always think it is hot when they say that kind of thing....10:57
danko123456dooglus: well, start using the oen I said... now that you have xnest....or was that leading to something else?10:58
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avinoamLast question10:58
terjergould, cat /proc/meminfo10:58
avinoamHow do i access my XP NTFS filesystem?10:58
rgouldthanks. it states the same as top10:58
i3dmasteravinoam: you will need to verify if you kernel supports it nor not first10:59
danko123456http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions avinoam.10:59
pestilenceavinoam: mount -o ro /dev/hd?? /my/mount/point10:59
danko123456ugh, finally that guy ran out of his question, sheesh;)11:00
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avinoamwhat is -o?11:00
St0n3-C0lhey11:00
St0n3-C0li3dmaster11:00
danko123456pestilence: do you find it strange that an open source program is in multiverse?11:00
i3dmasterSt0n3-C0l: so...11:00
i3dmasterSt0n3-C0l: worked or still having problem?11:00
St0n3-C0lusing ur xorg.conf and direct rendering is working but it's stuck on 680x48011:01
AnubisRhythmbox needs skins11:01
St0n3-C0l640x48011:01
St0n3-C0lhow do I get into 1024x72811:01
anto9usrgould: try linuxinfo it's in universe repository11:01
i3dmasterSt0n3-C0l: well you got to change the monitor type and freshrate, sync rate stuff11:01
pestilencedanko123456: no.  it's not in debian-testing, so it wouldn't be in universe.11:01
rgouldthanks, I will check it out11:01
pestilencedanko123456: at least, from my understanding of universe11:02
i3dmasteri3dmaster: according to what you have11:02
slawekdanko123456, well it's probably because i'm a bit tired and can't understand written english :D i'd better get some sleep11:02
slaweknevermind11:02
St0n3-C0li3dmaster: I think refresh rate is okay but display thingie..11:03
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iamnowhi11:03
rgouldanto9us, linuxinfo says I have 0M RAM :)11:03
winstonHello11:03
amichaianyoen here using ubuntu guide's repos?11:03
slawekAnubis: you can't really skin rhythmbox, get Beep if you want a skinnable player11:03
anto9usrgould: hmmm... so much for that tool then11:03
danko123456pestilence: well here is some official understanding of the "components" http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/ .11:03
iamnowanyone own a canon mp360? do windows printer drivers work in wine?11:03
i3dmasterSt0n3-C0l: X wouldn't accept the display mode without a correct monitor setting11:03
danko123456rgould sudo lshw11:03
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zoddanhi11:04
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ubuntylerhello11:04
danko123456rgould look into himem kernels.11:04
zoddani have forgotten the default password for root :)11:04
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i3dmasterSt0n3-C0l: you can save the xorg.conf file and use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to probe your settings11:04
zoddanis it ubuntu ?11:04
danko123456zoddan what is asking for a password?11:04
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ubuntyleri have a 300+ mz processor and 64 megs of RAM on my laptop...should i try ubuntu or will it be crazy sloww?11:04
St0n3-C0li3dmaster: wait loggin from previous one11:04
SelanitHiya, ppl.  Question: where can I find a list of the packages that are installed by default when using the Hoary amd64 install CD?11:05
zoddanwhat is the password ?11:05
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rgouldthanks danko123456 - lshw shows all the ram sticks are there and detected11:05
zoddananyone ?11:05
i3dmasteri3dmaster: it will generate a new settings with the most correct settings for your hardware and then you can see what else you need to revise there from the backup file11:05
JasonFheh, apt-get remove kde* does a decent job of killing kubuntu-desktop package (i.e. removing it)11:05
dbernar1_rgould, well, I could have helped you with that, that danko123456 is a jerk, anyhow,...11:06
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pestilencedanko123456: don't know.  i had previously thought that "universe" was code for "everything that's in debian testing but not in the official ubuntu distro"11:06
i3dmasterJasonF: thought apt-get --purge remove kubuntu-desktop would just work....11:06
St0n3-C0li3dmaster: yep done11:06
St0n3-C0l:)11:06
St0n3-C0lbrb11:06
pestilencedanko123456: debian free, of course.11:06
i3dmasterSt0n3-C0l: nice11:06
JasonFi3dmaster: kubuntu-desktop is a meta-pacakge... doesn't remove all the ones it installs11:06
dbernar1_ubuntyler, try, use xfce not gnome.11:06
JasonFunless --purge includes deps11:06
pestilencedanko123456: but in the way that it is stated on the website, i am sort of curious why it got put into multiverse11:07
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carthikAny mutt users with multiple imap accounts here?11:07
ubuntyleryeah, will i need to download that or does it come standard?11:07
danko123456didnt I start the whole conversation cause of that, pestilence?11:07
i3dmasterJasonF: ah ... ok. I did not try it but I might be wrong. I rememeber I installed kubuntu by just using that meta pkg11:07
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danko123456Selanit: got an answer yet?11:08
SelanitNope.11:08
SelanitGoogle has failed me. ;_;11:08
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SelanitI did find a list of all the packages on the LiveCD -- is that the same, though?11:09
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REBELinBLUEhey11:09
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danko123456Selanit: well, do this, ok? cat /etc/apt/sources.list and see the first line if it says anything about cd, then paste it here if it does say about cd, just the first line, I guess.11:09
REBELinBLUEanyone know why when I deleted google.src from ~/.mozilla/firefox/default.xxx/search/ it just comes back after a couple of restarts of firefox?11:09
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Selanitdanko123456: The reason I need a package list is that I'm having to manually download .debs and their dependencies from a Windows box ...11:10
abarbacciaSelanit, why do you have to do that?11:10
abarbacciaSelanit, that defeats the whole purpose of using a debian based system (apt-get is GOD)11:10
Selanitabarbaccia: because I have so far proven totally unable to persuade my crappy winmodem to work in Ubuntu.11:10
Funzois ubuntu based off debian sarge?11:10
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conformistINgreeREBELinBLUE: I have no clue...11:10
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abarbacciaSelanit, it may be worth just buying a linux supported one for like 20 dollars11:11
dbernar1_Funzo, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/ .11:11
Funzothx11:11
REBELinBLUEIts annoying because there are two google search items in the drop down, thats the google UK one which I don't want11:11
thundrcleezeWhy am I getting a 401 Authorization Required error when I try to refresh the ubuntu backports repos in apt?11:11
Selanitabarbaccia: I've ordered a cable modem.  It won't come till Friday.  In the meantime, I've got work to do which depends on a Linux environment.  So I'm trying to get by as best I can in the meantime.11:12
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[koji] thundrcleeze: you need to point to mirrors11:12
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thundrcleeze[koji] , eh?11:12
abarbacciaSelanit, no chance on just running a live CD or anything - or are other tools needed?11:12
conformistINredohm, yeah, very annoying, I can imagine...11:12
[koji] thundrcleeze: refer to the backports forum its a sticky11:12
thundrcleeze[koji] , but it was working before.  Did they change it recently?11:13
REBELinBLUEwell I wouldn't say very annoying ;) just bugging me cause I've already deleted it countless times11:13
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Selanitabarbaccia: I need to install: cloop-utils, deborphan, and their assorted dependencies.  Right now I've got cloop-utils and deborphan, I'm just trying to figure out which deps I already have.11:13
iamnowanyone know of a way to get windows drivers for printers to work in ubuntu?11:13
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dbernar1_thundrcleeze, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=37525&highlight=backports+moved .11:14
thundrcleezethanks, dbernar1_, [koji] .11:14
janjanVETTO are you here?11:14
dooglusconformistINred: I tried using the 'new login' menu entry, and it's the same as it was before I apt-got xnest.11:14
JasonFmy dpkg-configure dialog boxes are corrupted when I view them11:15
conformistINredREBELinBLUE: I think you need to stop deleting it, I think that is what is getting to you...11:15
JasonFlike they are misaligned and include messed up characters11:15
conformistINreddooglus: "ew login in a nested window"11:15
JasonFis thisa known issue?11:15
REBELinBLUELOL yeh that doesn't really solve the problem of the 2 google entries though11:15
Selanitabarbaccia: and no, the LiveCD doesn't include those.11:15
conformistINredjanjan: we have not heard from a VETTO in a while...11:15
dooglusconformistINred: "ew"?  what's "ew"?11:16
SelanitBah.  I suppose I could just download every dependency of cloop-utils and deborphan. >.<11:16
conformistINredit is when you dont have insert turned on your keyboard and you decide you wanna add something to what you have typed already,.11:16
conformistINredREBELinBLUE: yeah, well, I think the problem is you messing with it, instead just leaving it there....11:17
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conformistINredI meanm, correct me if I am wrong...11:17
conformistINredselanit, told you what to do...11:17
conformistINredscroll up.11:17
REBELinBLUEagain, leaving it there still means there are 2 menu entries11:17
conformistINredand?11:17
conformistINredI mean, do you mind them?11:17
REBELinBLUEits annoying...11:17
rgouldyay! 2GB of ram. thanks everyone11:17
REBELinBLUEbecause it defaults to the wrong one11:17
conformistINredwelcmope.11:18
conformistINredor something, anagram it.11:18
REBELinBLUEpeople moan about annoying little things like that in windows11:18
conformistINredah, defaults to the wrong one, now that makes sense.11:18
REBELinBLUEwell its just as annoying in linux ;)11:18
conformistINredjust a sec.........11:18
dooglusREBELinBLUE: it cuts both ways:  in linux you can almost always get to the source code to fix it for yourself if you want to11:20
dooglusREBELinBLUE: but in Windows, there are so many people using it, that most of the things that need fixing have been fixed already....11:20
iamnowhow do i print in linux with a windows driver?11:20
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St0n3-C0lhey i3dmaster11:21
St0n3-C0lit's done ;)11:21
REBELinBLUEhey dooglus no need to have a go at me11:21
dooglusREBELinBLUE: for instance, I know in Linux if I spent enough time I could examine the kernel source and find out why Linux crashes if I move my mouse and download stuff at the same time11:21
dooglusREBELinBLUE: but in Windows I don't need to, cos the problem has already been fixed11:21
St0n3-C0lThanks for your help, I did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it worked on command-line. Earlier I had some problems with it maybe because I was running in gnome-terminal11:21
REBELinBLUEjust saying, people moan about little things like that in windows but when I try to get help with it in windows people tell me not to worry about it11:21
dooglusREBELinBLUE: I'm not having a go at anyone.11:21
dbernar1_dooglus, stupid sentence, shows you dont understand it, in fact.11:21
dooglusREBELinBLUE: I'm agreeing with you, in fact11:21
dooglusdbernar1_: sorry?  what do you mean?11:22
REBELinBLUEseems more like you're giving me a bit of a lecture ;)11:22
dbernar1_dooglus REBELinBLUE: it cuts both ways:  in linux you can almost always get to the source code to fix it for yourself if you want to11:22
dbernar1_dooglus REBELinBLUE: but in Windows, there are so many people using it, that most of the things that need fixing have been fixed already....11:22
pestilencedooglus: how do you explain bsod's, again?11:22
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doogluspestilence: BSODs are almost always a result of 3rd party drivers crashing, or so I'm lead to believe11:23
Fator_Deedooglus: do you use an usb mouse?11:23
REBELinBLUEfunny, the 1 BSOD I've had on windows in the last 4 years was because of faultly RAM, linux coped with it just as well by freezing up11:23
dooglusFator_Dee: I do.11:23
Fator_Deedooglus: do you have more than 2 ports?11:23
REBELinBLUEso the BSOD arguement really isn't a point anymore11:23
pestilencedooglus: regardless.11:23
dooglusFator_Dee: I have lots of ports, but no USB ports.11:23
Fator_Deedooglus: only 1 usb?11:23
Fator_Deedooglus: do you have a spare ps2 mouse for test purposes?11:24
dooglusFator_Dee: the 2 USB ports I have are on a pcmcia card, not on the computer.11:24
dbernar1_dooglus, that is what I meant by stupid sentence....completely not true.11:24
dooglusFator_Dee: I have no PS2 mice, and no PS2 ports.11:24
dooglusFator_Dee: it's a laptop11:24
dbernar1_dotn worry about it tho, I am doing something, cant explkain...11:24
Fator_Deedooglus: have you tried to change to mouse between the ports?11:24
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dooglusFator_Dee: the kernel even crashes if I don't have the mouse plugged in.  It just takes longer.  The only way to get reliable operation is to unplug the USB2 card from the pcmcia socket11:25
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transgressthere an easy way to just reconfigure sound?  such as dpkg-reconfigure somethinghere?11:25
rg58smai have a problem  with mseg close in a second11:25
rg58smai cant open11:25
Fator_Deedooglus: because my friend had a quite similar situation, but hes problem was the usb-camera and mouse, when he changed the port that he used for the camera, it didn't crash anymore11:26
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dooglusdbernar1_: I'm not sure, but I don't think my sentence was untrue.  Windows has more users than Linux.  And Windows is compatible with more hardware than Linux.  You wouldn't disagree with either of those 2 sentences I trust?11:26
rg58smai have a problem  with mseg close in a second11:26
hajikianyone have problems getting sound from flash player in firefox?11:27
dooglusFator_Dee: we were talking about this earlier - you were going to ask him how he fixed the problem.11:27
conformistINreddo windows users know how to change anything on their system?11:27
iamnowwhats the best p2p software?11:27
Fator_Deedooglus: yes, and I asked him, he just changed the usb port that he used for his camera :-\11:27
dooglusconformistINred: it depends on the windows user I'd say11:27
conformistINredrg58sma: no, you have a problem with smeg11:27
DekaPinkI do believe I must have done something truly stupid.11:27
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conformistINreddooglus: Id say it depends on the license on the software he uses...11:27
DekaPinkI no longer have normal access to my home/user folder. o.O11:27
Fator_Deedooglus: do you have only 1 pcmcia slot?11:27
conformistINredDekaPink: do you have an idea why?11:28
dooglusFator_Dee: yup11:28
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Fator_Deedamn11:28
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DekaPinkconformistINred: None at all... it just says I don't have permission to use it... I need to sudo to do anything.11:28
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david_what up11:28
david_just put linux on my comp11:28
arcticblueDekaPink: login as root and try chown-ing it11:28
conformistINredI hate when ppl leave a second before I geivce them heir solution, please note that all that are here...11:29
conformistINredhttp://kb.mozillazine.org/Firefox_:_FAQs_:_Uninstall_Search_Plugins11:29
rg58smayes y have11:29
conformistINreddavid_: and? behaves?11:29
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SelanitOkay, I think I've got everything.  Time to reboot and see if I'm right.11:29
arcticblueDekaPink: try: chown (username):(username) /home/(username)11:29
conformistINredyes, not with mseg like you were saying.11:29
conformistINredDekaPink: ok, well, do this...11:30
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arcticblueDekaPink: and then: chmod 750 /home/(username)11:30
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conformistINredchown -R dekaPink /home/dekaPink11:31
dooglusbetter, change the group, too:  chown -R dekaPink:dekaPink ~dekaPink11:31
DekaPinkThank you. :D11:31
rg58smai have a problem  with mseg close in a second11:32
conformistINredwhere dekaPink is you user name.11:32
conformistINreddude, with smeg, please.11:32
conformistINrednot mseg.11:32
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dooglusand dekaPink is your group name :)11:32
doogluswhat is this 'smeg' I keep hearing about?11:32
conformistINreddooglus: man, I dont know what you are talking about... or...11:32
rg58smasmeg menu editor11:32
conformistINredhttp://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/11:32
dooglusconformistINred: you can use chown x:x to change the owner AND group to x11:33
arcticbluesmeg...that sounds like some sort of foreign food11:33
conformistINredhm...ok, well, maybe he should do that, I really dont know... yeah, very much, I agree. /join #menueditor to speak with the devs they are nice.11:34
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dbernar1_see what I mean, I hate when they ask, and leave in a second.11:34
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Gus_hello11:34
dbernar1_yo, gus.11:34
rgouldhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smeg11:35
dbernar1_ok, Im out...11:35
Gus_i have trouble with my video card...11:35
Gus_it's an ATI Radeon IGP 340M11:35
Gus_it works well, except that 3D accel is not enabled11:35
Gus_(i score like 250 FPS in gears o.O)11:35
Kartagislater11:36
arcticblueare you using xorg?11:36
Fator_DeeGus_: www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto11:36
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pixelmonkeyAnyone here know how to enable the "Hibernate this computer" option in the gnome logout menu?11:37
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Gus_Fator_Dee thanks, i'll check it out, but i think it doesn't deal with my card11:37
Fator_DeeGus_: if that doesn't work, I think you are out of luck :-|11:38
Gus_well11:38
RuffianSoldierwhich one of these do I need to get my Wifi working?: ftp://ftp.linux-wlan.org/pub/linux-wlan-ng/11:38
arcticbluei also have a question about hibernate.  it's enabled on mine, but when i use it, it just goes to a black screen and sits there.  i have to force it to power off and then it never acutally "hibernates"11:38
Gus_i have read this thing: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?threadid=32870311:38
arcticblueGus_: are you using xorg?11:39
Gus_Fator_Dee but when i do what that guy says (replacing "ati" with "fglrx" and then restart X) it crashes, it says X is not able to restart11:39
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arcticblueI have an ATI IGP card as well (it may be the same one; not sure off the top of my head).  Never worked with XFree, but works perfect in xorg11:39
Gus_arcticblue i don't really know actually, i'm blatantly new to this =D11:39
Gus_arcticblue can i ask you further questions in query, please ?11:40
Fator_DeeGus_: wait a sec and I'll take a look11:40
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Gus_okay Fator_Dee thanks a lot =)11:40
aerisArcticblue: same thing happens when i hibernate in win3211:40
aerisi think its probably an issuse with BIOS power management stuff 1st of all11:40
aerisdrivers 2nd11:40
ghatakHi, during install. its stuck at "configuring apt...". Nothing going on. my system is not connected to network. what to do ?11:41
RuffianSoldierwhich one of these do I need to get my Wifi working?: ftp://ftp.linux-wlan.org/pub/linux-wlan-ng/11:41
Funzohow do I install kde alongside gnome?11:41
RuffianSoldierapt-get install kde?11:42
Fator_DeeGus_: paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log on www.pastebin.com there could be some advices on the problem11:42
St0n3-C0lKwifi11:42
St0n3-C0li think11:42
Gus_Fator_Dee okay i will11:42
dbernar1_Funzo, sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop is the best way to do it, afaik.11:43
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St0n3-C0lRuffianSoldier: apt-get install kwifi (If u looking to install some wifi thing)11:43
Funzobut that will do it alongside or instead?11:44
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St0n3-C0lalongside11:44
St0n3-C0lit'll give u options on bootup11:44
RuffianSoldierSt0n3-C0l, how can I do taht if i have no internet...........11:44
St0n3-C0lto choose kde or gnome11:44
St0n3-C0lRuffianSoldier: Check if u using Kubuntu ... I think Kwifi is installed bydefault11:45
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Gus_Fator_Dee  i have pasted things there, name is Gus11:46
RuffianSoldierbrb11:46
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iratsu_how does one get ADSL internet to work under ubuntu11:47
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dbernar1_Funzo, it will install it alongside, as St0n3-C0l said, at login(the login screen) you have a session button, which you cabn use to chose what to log into.11:47
dbernar1_iratsu_, sudo pppoeconf11:47
flipyis there any package for mldonkey 2.5.30-x?11:47
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iratsu_dbernar1_: ok, that`s included on the ubuntu cd11:48
Fator_DeeGus_: have you tried it without those two options that are now commented aout?11:48
dbernar1_iratsu_, what? you mean is that included?11:48
ghatakflipy: huh, compile ur own man. only takes 15 mins11:48
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dbernar1_how about you open a terminal and tell me...11:48
flipyghatak: well ok, seems a good point but it would be better if it were a package :)11:49
Gus_under the ATI driver ? i commented them out to see if it was the driver in quotes or the options which was messing things up11:49
iratsu_dbernar1_: i mean is the conf program included with the cd?11:49
Gus_i left them uncommented after i realized it was the driver...11:49
doogluswhen I run Xnest, how can I tell it to accept connections from localhost?  Or tell it to run a window manager?  Or tell it to start up with an xterm running?  Or anything that might make the resulting session usable?11:49
ghatakflipy: well i am sure there will be one out there. tried googling?11:49
Fator_DeeGus_: ok11:49
JohnDonghey, any devs in here?11:49
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flipyghatak: i've tried. debir nor ubuntu have any11:49
JohnDongcan someone tell me the deal with binfmt-support?11:50
conformistINredflipy, not in mainstream repos, looked in backports?11:50
JohnDongwhy 1.2.4's getting pulled from repos?11:50
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flipyghatak: the closest is 2.5.2811:50
flipyconformistINred: backports?11:50
St0n3-C0lflipy: http://backports.ubuntuforums.org11:50
St0n3-C0lflipy: Provide packages updates and some new extra packages11:50
flipyok i see11:51
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flipythanks guys11:51
conformistINredwelcome...11:51
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St0n3-C0lnp11:51
dabugashi11:51
Fator_DeeGus_: and are you sure that log is from the time when X did not start?11:51
dabugashas anyone installed kde from a kubuntu cd on top of ubuntu?11:51
ghatakghatak: get that one. if u look at release notes of mldonkey. there are not any major changes11:51
conformistINrediratsu, he told you, open a terminal, and type that in.11:51
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ghatakooppps it was for flipy11:51
snowsealhi11:52
conformistINredhi, snowseal.11:52
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St0n3-C0ldabugas: has anyone installed kde from a kubuntu cd ?11:52
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snowsealim recompiling the kernel, is there some default .config for ubuntu 5.04 somewhere to find for me?11:52
Gus_Fator_Dee no. it is the logs i opened just now, and in the meanwhile i restarted once correctly (since i am able to talk to you right now =D)11:52
Gus_the 3 or 4 previous times it crashed though11:52
JohnDongsnowseal: it's in /boot11:52
JohnDongconfig-*11:53
snowsealk ty11:53
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JohnDongbut don't bother using it; it requires a Debian-stype initrd11:53
dabugasSt0n3-C0l: i have a warty somewhat upgraded to hoary. i got a kubuntu cd but i get a GnuPG authorization error.11:53
runedudeWhat program can I use to burn an ISO to a cdwriter (ubuntu ofcourse)11:53
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JohnDongsnowseal:make sure you compile filesystems, IDE controllers, etc builtin11:53
dabugasSt0n3-C0l: when i pop it in (both apt-cdrom add & synaptic)11:53
johrunedude: cdrecord11:53
snowsealaha, thats why its so slow. im runninga  386 config.11:53
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runedudeerr, ok, and is there any good sites about cdrecord?11:53
runedudeOr whats the syntax to burn the ISO?11:54
Fator_DeeGus_: sorry, but I can't get a crasp on what's wrong :-\11:54
snowsealJohnDong,  thank you, i'll just change the processor type ;) averything is working fine atm11:54
St0n3-C0ldabugas: so what u want to do with kubuntu cd ?11:54
Fator_Deeand Im feeling quite sleepy already so my advices wouldn't be that good :-p11:54
Gus_Fator_Dee don't be sorry, thanks for trying to elp =)11:54
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Gus_help*11:54
johrunedude: man cdrecord? or if you want to do it graphically, you can use k3b, gtoaster, xcdroast, etc.11:54
St0n3-C0ltry kubuntu-desktop11:54
runedudehmm, i only have a terminal :)11:54
johrunedude: ok, cdrecord -scanbus then ;)11:55
runedudeok :)11:55
dabugasSt0n3-C0l: add packages from it. kde-core (it's a metapackage) for starters. the problem is that i can't add it to the /etc/apt/sources.list because of an authorization problem.11:55
St0n3-C0lrunedude: how bout man cdrecord ?11:55
johrunedude: you might want to do that as root.11:55
St0n3-C0lohh..11:55
runedudeI did.11:55
runedudecdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'.11:55
runedudecdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=help'.11:55
St0n3-C0lu checked md5sum ?11:55
dabugasSt0n3-C0l: "Signature verification failed for: /media/cdrom0/dists/hoary/Release.gpg"11:55
johrunedude: try cdrecord dev=ATA -scanbus11:56
winstonis there a how to out there for noobs who want to learn how to install software? I just dont get apt-get!11:56
dabugasSt0n3-C0l: how do i do that?11:56
johrunedude: hmm, same problem here :P11:56
St0n3-C0lmd5sum kubuntu*.iso11:56
runedudehm11:56
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johrunedude: I think it's a problem with the latest cdrecord package.11:56
fabiobHello, is there a workaround to that breezy bug that messes up the keys accelerators? (I know, "don't use breezy")11:56
runedudeits trying to open up to my hard drive :O11:56
runedudecdrecord: Device or resource busy. Cannot open '/dev/hda'. Cannot open SCSI driver.11:56
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runedude:O11:56
johrunedude: yeah, I posted a bug about that a long time ago which got fixed. Seems it has returned :p11:57
runedudehmm11:57
runedudeAny other options for me:)11:57
johrunedude: try scanning the bus with cdrdao then11:57
runedudeok11:57
johrunedude: i.e. sudo cdrdao scanbus11:57
runedudeshould I apt-get that package first? :P11:58
johprobably11:58
runedudek :)11:58
runedudeATA:1,0,0            HP      , CD-Writer+ 9500b, 1.0611:58
runedudewee11:58
johthen you can do something like: cdrecord dev=<result of scanbus> speed=22 -dao -eject file.iso11:58
runedudek.11:59
anteIs there a way to change the looks of rhythmbox? Maybe give it a xmms lookalike skin?11:59
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T5why?11:59
johrunedude: as root ofcourse.11:59
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runedudeyep12:00

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