[12:00] <Kartagis> okay I'm gone
[12:00] <Kartagis> later
[12:00] <hnt> if you want to use non-passive you have to forward port 20, yup..
[12:01] <shad0w1e> great, then I'll just install a pftp client on windows box at home, and use non-passive everywhere else, where there isnt a firewall
[12:01] <Zodiac> allo allo
[12:01] <shad0w1e> sounds like a plan!
[12:01] <hnt> shad0w1e, but FROM port 20 on your server to aaaaaaaany port on your system...
[12:01] <shad0w1e> there's def no DANGER in leaving port 20 open , is there
[12:02] <hnt> shad0w1e, the FTP server will connect TO you FROM port 20 TO you port any
[12:02] <hnt> shad0w1e, that's for the "active mode" (non-passiv)...
[12:03] <shad0w1e> ah
[12:03] <hnt> shad0w1e, just google on it, youll get the hang of it... look http://slacksite.com/other/ftp.html
[12:03] <shad0w1e> so its safe to leave 20 open on my server
[12:04] <hnt> shad0w1e, you need port 21 "open" on your server first of all..
[12:04] <hnt> port 20, not open for INCOMING
[12:04] <hnt> in active, the server will connect to you FROM port 20 - so that is port 20 OUTGOING on the serverside...
[12:04] <shad0w1e> gotcha
[12:04] <shad0w1e> so 21 incoming
[12:04] <hnt> on your side, it is incoming any port > 1024..
[12:04] <shad0w1e> 20 outgoing
[12:04] <litup> no no all wrong
[12:05] <shad0w1e> gr
[12:05] <hnt> and for passive you connect to the server twice..
[12:05] <hnt> litup, wtf?
[12:05] <shad0w1e> how do I block ports on my linux box?
[12:05] <hnt> shad0w1e, iptables..
[12:05] <shad0w1e> ah, and then put it in init.d to start every time, right?
[12:06] <hnt> well, yes.. if you want it at startup
[12:06] <wdh> shad0w1e, or use iptables-save
[12:06] <hnt> or u might want to use "shorewall" and webmin to make it easier..
[12:06] <shad0w1e> oh really
[12:06] <hnt> i mean, make the configuring easier..
[12:06] <shad0w1e> thanks i should check that stuff out
[12:06] <wdh> shad0w1e, firestarter is quite a nice frontend too
[12:07] <hnt> i think firestarter is a frontend for writing the rules right?
[12:07] <wdh> shad0w1e, saves you the trouble of setting up webmin if you dont have it running :)
[12:07] <wdh> hnt, and running it automatically, view logs.. etc
[12:07] <hnt> ah ok! never used it :)
[12:07] <wdh> :)
[12:08] <hnt> then it is pretty much like shorewall anyway..
[12:08] <wdh> i personally do not like webinterfaces for configurations :)
[12:08] <hnt> oic hehe i like them ;)
[12:08] <hnt> hm so.. can anyone help me with scummvm under hoary?
[12:09] <hnt> Ive got 2 uninstallable dependencies on this one..
[12:09] <hnt> and that makes me a saaaaaaaaaaaaad panda 8'(((((
[12:09] <neiras> Damn, I wish evolution were split up into separate apps
[12:09] <wdh> under hoary? any exotic repos enabled?
[12:10] <hnt> wdh, I added universe and multiverse, thats it..
[12:10] <hnt> and "scummvm" is in there.. but libmad and libmpeg2 arent :/
[12:11] <wdh> try libmad0
[12:11] <hnt> yep, thats the one it cant find..
[12:11] <hnt> sorry, I shortened the name.. my bad
[12:12] <hnt>  Depends: libmad0 (>=0.15.1b) but it is not installable
[12:12] <hnt> Depends: libmpeg2-4  but it is not installable
[12:12] <hnt> thats the error..
[12:12] <Fackamato> anyone managed to play drm protected wmv files?
[12:12] <abood> whats the rename command for a file ???
[12:12] <hnt> abood, rn
[12:12] <hnt> abood, jk;) mv
[12:12] <karamazof> anyone got a asrock k7VT4A+???
[12:12] <wdh> hnt, thats the one i have here in hoary
[12:13] <hnt> wdh, oi? where you got them?
[12:13] <karamazof> or had a problem with his sound card??
[12:13] <abood> thx
[12:13] <karamazof> or even could give me a hend??
[12:13] <karamazof> hand!
[12:14] <Jack_Bristow> \disconnect heading to work
[12:14] <wdh> hnt, libmad0 is in main
[12:14] <DekaPink> Hnnn... Is it difficult to do a dual boot with Ubuntu? :3
[12:14] <wdh> DekaPink, not at all
[12:14] <karamazof> or could aynone tell me where to go to get some help??
[12:14] <hnt> wdh, hmm that is really strange.. Ive got main in my sources.list!!
[12:15] <hnt> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted
[12:15] <hnt> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted
[12:15] <wdh> hnt, with 'hoary' also?
[12:15] <wdh> and i have a 'hoary-updates' here as well
[12:15] <DekaPink> I was going to play with it on VMware but it doesn't seem to like that.
[12:15] <hnt> deb-src http://at.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted
[12:15] <hnt> deb http://at.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted
[12:15] <hnt> me too :/
[12:16] <wdh> at.archive?
[12:16] <hnt> a mirror it selected by itself maybe? Im from austria..
[12:17] <hnt> but "archive" doesnt really sound so nice hm
[12:18] <wdh> hnt, replace your sources.list by the on i posted here.. be sure to make a backup though..
[12:18] <wdh> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/292408
[12:18] <DekaPink> Stupid question here... any reccomendations on what I should use to burn the install CD? I've been having a little trouble it seems, lately... I tried to burn some with one program and they ended up not working... I'd never had the problem before with others, so I don't know...
[12:18] <hnt> wdh, ok I will try!
[12:18] <wdh> and then run 'apt-get update'
[12:18] <hnt> mhm
[12:19] <wdh> DekaPink, what platform are you booting from?
[12:19] <wdh> s/booting/burning
[12:19] <DekaPink> I'm on Windows XP.
[12:19] <wdh> on windows i would recommend Nero..
[12:20] <hnt> wdh, sweet now there it is, libmad0 :D do you think the .at mirror is screwed? or something wrong in the sources.list? hm
[12:20] <wdh> hnt, not sure.. never heard of an .at mirror..
[12:21] <wdh> maybe the wiki has something on that
[12:21] <hnt> wdh, ic hmm.. that's the ones the installroutine set for me fully automatically o.o wierd
[12:21] <hnt> but thanks a lot! now I can play MonkeyIsland :D:D:D
[12:21] <wdh> hnt, hmmmz.. one last question..
[12:21] <hnt> yes?
[12:21] <wdh> did you try 'apt-get update' before you tried to install libmad0?
[12:22] <hnt> wdh, yes..
[12:22] <hnt> i tried synaptic and apt-get/apt-search n -show
[12:22] <wdh> hnt, the first time also?? before i told you to replace your sourlces.list that is..
[12:22] <hnt> yup
[12:22] <wdh> ok
[12:22] <hnt> synaptic reloads all the time, too
[12:22] <wdh> quite strange then..
[12:22] <wdh> hnt, true
[12:22] <hnt> yea :/
[12:23] <hnt> but now its working :) thx!
[12:23] <wdh> yw
[12:23] <wdh> *sleepy time*
[12:23] <hnt> n8n8
[12:23] <wdh> just one night will do :)
[12:23] <hnt> night;)
[12:24] <Fator_Dee> hmmm, kazehakase seems like a very good browser
[12:25] <hnt> wdh, your sources.list got main hoary uni and multiverse on every line.. mine didnt.. maybe that's why..
[12:27] <new2gentoo> cdrecord
[12:28] <new2gentoo> ^thehatsrule^, hello
[12:29] <new2gentoo> oops
[12:29] <^thehatsrule^> lol
[12:29] <^thehatsrule^> oops?
[12:29] <new2gentoo> ooh, thought you disconnected
[12:29] <^thehatsrule^> but hi :P
[12:29] <new2gentoo> whats up
[12:29] <^thehatsrule^> i did
[12:29] <^thehatsrule^> some stupid port blocking it...
[12:29] <^thehatsrule^> dunno what
[12:30] <raDeon> HAHAHHAA PORT BLOCKING!
[12:30] <new2gentoo> chilling while wife is getting ready to go out and eat
[12:30] <^thehatsrule^> heh cool
[12:30] <Fator_Dee> raDeon: what's up with you?
[12:30] <^thehatsrule^> lol, i meant the port is in use
[12:31] <^thehatsrule^> i cant free it
[12:31] <raDeon> nothing much, you?
[12:31] <Fator_Dee> just thinking why you shouted
[12:31] <raDeon> don't think about it too hard
[12:31] <raDeon> no good came come from that
[12:31] <new2gentoo> raDeon, so how drunk where you last nite with that bs on the mepis channel?
[12:31] <raDeon> what mepis channel
[12:31] <Fator_Dee> drunk + irc = always good
[12:31] <^thehatsrule^> lol
[12:32] <raDeon> oh hell yeah factor
[12:32] <raDeon> drunk + roadtest = not so good
[12:32] <raDeon> hahahahaha
[12:32] <Fator_Dee> that's why you should make a password that you can't type while you'r drunk
[12:32] <Fator_Dee> but somehow you always manage to type it out
[12:33] <hnt> well, laters! n8
[12:33] <raDeon> bye hnt
[12:33] <raDeon> my friend
[12:37] <phillipc> I have a laptop that gets Internet wirelessly; I want to provide my router with this connection. How can I set up my laptop to give an internet connection to my router through my laptop's ethernet port and my router's internet port? Does this require setting up a bridge?
[12:37] <new2gentoo> phillipc, see which channel gets a hit 1st here or gentoo aye
[12:38] <phillipc> new2gentoo: I am familiar with both distros and the problem is agnostic to either
[12:38] <synd> how do i change the trash icons in gnome?
[12:39] <[Spooky] > man is some reps down ?
[12:39] <[Spooky] > i get error when downloading...
[12:40] <synd> [Spooky] : which repos
[12:40] <snowseal> phillipc,  you  want your lapt to be a wireess repeater, and your router has to route internet through it?
[12:40] <abood> guys, need a prof help with apt-get, im facing a proplem suddenly i get it it cant be updated any one can follow my proplem plz ???
[12:40] <[Spooky] > backports
[12:41] <[Spooky] > http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/universe/binary-i386/
[12:41] <phillipc> snowseal: no wireless repeated. I have to get the connection wirelessly, through my laptop. I want to then give the router an internet connection through my laptop
[12:41] <synd> [Spooky] : backports are shitty
[12:41] <synd> how do i change the trash icons in gnome? anyone know?
[12:41] <phillipc> synd: you can either change your icon theme (System->Preferences->theme), or you can replace the image that represents your trash in your theme (your theme resides in /usr/share/icons or ~/.icons, and the image is easy enough to find in there)
[12:42] <synd> phillipc: thanks
[12:42] <[Spooky] > synd: maybe, but necessary...
[12:43] <abood> cany any body paste me his source.list file in privte plz i need a fully working one ?!?!?!
[12:43] <snowseal> phillipc, and the router has the wireless support?
[12:44] <abood> guys plz any one check my proplem
[12:44] <synd> abood: there is one on ubuntuguide.org
[12:44] <phillipc> snowseal: are you talking about the router I want to give internet access to, or the router I'm getting access from? Both have wireless support, but I think that's irrelevant. I want to give a connection to my router through a cat5 cable coming from my laptop
[12:44] <snowseal> so ust set up a dhcpd on the laptop. and put a cross link cable on it to the wan port of the router.
[12:45] <apollo2011> How do I install a package from a .deb in Kubuntu?
[12:45] <Riddell> apollo2011: dpkg --install foo.deb
[12:45] <Riddell> sudo  needed before that
[12:46] <snowseal> and the laptop needs some routing software too.
[12:46] <abood> synd, let me check, plz man could i c yours in private i tried that one before :(
[12:46] <phillipc> snowseal: are you sure the crosslink is required?
[12:46] <synd> abood: mine is the same as the one on ubuntuguide.org. sorry.
[12:47] <snowseal> phillipc, yes
[12:47] <apollo2011> Ridell: thx
[12:47] <snowseal> phillipc, or two cables with a hub
[12:47] <phillipc> snowseal: what configuration should I do with eth0 and wlan0 on the laptop?
[12:48] <imaek> Oh man.
[12:48] <imaek> I just figlet'ed the bible.
[12:48] <snowseal> phillipc,  all traffic from eth0 should be masqueraded to wlan0
[12:48] <phillipc> snowseal: hmm...
[12:48] <snowseal> its really all logic
[12:48] <phillipc> snowseal: you're really helping me, thanks =)
[12:49] <phillipc> snowseal: can you point me to any documents that have definite instructions?
[12:49] <phillipc> such as masquerading traffic
[12:49] <snowseal> phillipc, iptables + MASQUERADE
[12:49] <phillipc> snowseal: thanks
[12:50] <snowseal> good luck
[12:50] <synd> ack in /usr/share/icons it says i dont have permission to write to the folder :x
[12:51] <synd> how do i gain permission to write to it?
[12:52] <[Spooky] > so what to do about the reps ?
[12:52] <raDeon> LMAO REPS
[12:52] <synd> [Spooky] : the backports are shit
[12:52] <synd> [Spooky] : youre gonna have to wait until they fix it. its happened to me before
[12:53] <dabaSlon> they moved them onto mirrors, read the forums...
[12:53] <[Spooky] > hm ok
[12:53] <dabaSlon> just search for backports.
[12:53] <dabaSlon> the doctor said Im fine..
[12:54] <phillipc> synd: launch nautilus with gksudo, or, do ti from the command line as sudo -s
[12:54] <norrbaggen> is 860.000 fps good with a ati mobile 9600 332 mb ram?
[12:54] <norrbaggen> with glxgears?
[12:55] <phillipc> synd: a better solution is to copy the entire folder from /usr/share/icons to your personal ~/.icons folder, and rename the file in there describing what it is to something custom, e.g. from "Nuvola" to "Nuvola-custom" and then mess with whatever icons you like
[12:55] <iceman2K> god forsaken intel network onboard card ... cant load it ...
[12:55] <phillipc> synd: that way you have the original, unmodified theme and your modified theme. The theme in /usr/share/icons will get overwritten whenever you update gnome-themes
[12:55] <new2gentoo> norrbaggen, not bad, what bit color?
[12:55] <Fator_Dee> norrbaggen: glxgears is not a proper way to measure your cards performance
[12:55] <meltemi> hi
[12:55] <norrbaggen> new2gentoo, think 24
[12:55] <Fator_Dee> norrbaggen: test it buy playing some game
[12:55] <Fator_Dee> *by
[12:55] <norrbaggen> Fator_Dee, what shoul i  use
[12:55] <raDeon> LMAO FACTOR
[12:56] <meltemi> soory
[12:56] <synd> phillipc: thanks. i'll try that out..
[12:56] <norrbaggen> Fator_Dee,  can play tuxracer with no problem
[12:56] <raDeon> faggle futz
[12:56] <meltemi> what's games you used in ubuntu??
[12:56] <raDeon>  frozen-bubble
[12:56] <phillipc> wc3
[12:56] <raDeon> sweet war3
[12:56] <dabaSlon> ok, Im gonna log out of xfce, and come back with a weird set of photos, brb...
[12:56] <synd> frozen bubble kicks ballsack
[12:56] <Fator_Dee> norrbaggen: glxgears basically just shows if hardware rendering is working
[12:56] <norrbaggen> how can i test if agp is used?
[12:56] <norrbaggen> ok
[12:56] <raDeon> http://linux.sector-19.org/war3wine.jpg
[12:57] <synd> raDeon: nice
[12:57] <synd> raDeon: what kinda system you running on
[12:57] <meltemi> how can I configure wine??
[12:57] <raDeon> synd, windows
[12:57] <raDeon> haha
[12:58] <synd> raDeon: not operating system.
[12:58] <raDeon> that was i think almost 2 years ago
[12:58] <raDeon> what you want to know
[12:58] <meltemi> all :P
[12:58] <synd> raDeon: system specs
[12:58] <raDeon> 1.33ghz tbird
[12:58] <raDeon> 512 mb pc 2700
[12:58] <raDeon> gf4 ti 4200 128 mb
[12:59] <meltemi> soo good
[12:59] <synd> i see
[12:59] <raDeon> i had this computer so long
[12:59] <raDeon> haven't upgraded it in a really long time though
[12:59] <meltemi> i had k7 1gz with 1500 Mram 133
[12:59] <meltemi> with 120 Gb of memory
[01:00] <meltemi> it is  6 years
[01:00] <ccc> wow, 120 gb memory :D
[01:00] <raDeon> 120 gb?
[01:00] <raDeon> haha
[01:00] <synd> thats a shitload of memory
[01:00] <meltemi> 120 Hdd
[01:00] <raDeon> ah
[01:00] <raDeon> and you had 1.5 gb of memory
[01:00] <raDeon> ?
[01:00] <norrbaggen> anyone got a guide to get steam running on ubuntu
[01:00] <raDeon> that seems high for a 1ghz machine!
[01:00] <meltemi> yes
[01:00] <raDeon> what u doing that need so much
[01:00] <synd> powermac G5s can only support up to 8GB RAM:p
[01:01] <meltemi> i want to buy other
[01:01] <KarlosII> is backports down?
[01:01] <synd> KarlosII: yes
[01:01] <meltemi> i like these
[01:01] <KarlosII> k that's what I suspected, just making sure it wasn't a routing issue on my end
[01:02] <KarlosII> synd, speak of which I shoudl send them a donation of $20 for this month
[01:02] <danko123456> KarlosII: it is an issue of them moving it, please read the forums, serach for backports.
[01:02] <meltemi> http://de.shuttle.com/en/desktopdefault.aspx/tabid-72/170_read-10611/
[01:02] <KarlosII> moving?
[01:02] <[freebsd> how does switching from ubuntu to kubuntu work? just get the sources and apt-get kubuntu-desktop?
[01:02] <synd> KarlosII: they need it
[01:02] <meltemi> it's so good
[01:02] <Riddell> [freebsd: yes, but no extra sources needed
[01:02] <KarlosII> I try to donate to a different project each month :)
[01:03] <[freebsd> what do i apt to?
[01:03] <meltemi> chao
[01:03] <meltemi> see you later
[01:03] <[freebsd> ciao*
[01:03] <[freebsd> lol
[01:03] <[freebsd> i mean what do i apt-get install?
[01:03] <Shuddertrix> [freebsd: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:03] <Shuddertrix> [freebsd: it's a metapackage
[01:03] <norrbaggen> anyone got a guide to get steam running on ubuntu
[01:04] <[freebsd> mk
[01:04] <Shuddertrix> norrbaggen: install cedega, download steam, run 'cedega SteamInstall.exe' ?
[01:04] <Shuddertrix> norrbaggen: or is that a different steam you are talking about?
[01:04] <norrbaggen> steam counter strike
[01:04] <Shuddertrix> then do what i said
[01:04] <Shuddertrix> works like a charm
[01:04] <synd> ack
[01:05] <norrbaggen> what is cedega
[01:05] <raDeon> cedega is wine with directx wrappers
[01:05] <[freebsd> its a windows emulator for games
[01:05] <Shuddertrix> unless you want to do the whole wine+dx patching route, which takes forever
[01:05] <apollo2011> How do I execute a .bin file? sh doesn't seem to work...
[01:05] <raDeon> not an emulator
[01:05] <[freebsd> well, sorta.
[01:05] <raDeon> it is NOT an emulator
[01:05] <synd> how do i change the ubuntu main menu icon??
[01:05] <[freebsd> it lets you run PE exes.
[01:05] <[freebsd> so yes, sorta.
[01:05] <[freebsd> and, calm down :D
[01:05] <raDeon> it creates a synthetic windows environment with directx support
[01:05] <Shuddertrix> synd: there's a howto on the forums
[01:05] <norrbaggen> i got steam installed on my windows part do i have to reinstall?
[01:05] <Gus_> can someone help me writing a simple link to a java file ?
[01:05] <raDeon> allowing you to play directx games on linux
[01:06] <synd> Shuddertrix:  thanks : )
[01:06] <synd> Shuddertrix: got a link? synd is lazy : )
[01:06] <ska-fan> I'm trying to install vmware, and it asks me for the kernel include files. Where are they and/or what package do I need to install?
[01:06] <KarlosII> danko123456, ty
[01:06] <warpedmind> hello all
[01:06] <Shuddertrix> norrbaggen: you have to install steam with cedega on ubuntu, it's not really reinstalling, just a different copy.
[01:06] <Cols> What ist he ebst way to show my internet connectivity as a statistic for a website?
[01:06] <Shuddertrix> synd: Shuddertrix lazy.
[01:07] <norrbaggen> mkay
[01:07] <synd> Shuddertrix: fair enough heh
[01:07] <warpedmind> anyone got LTSP working? Im stuck on tftp trying to boot the kernel
[01:07] <raDeon> hi
[01:07] <apollo2011> How do I execute a .bin file? sh doesn't seem to work...
[01:07] <Cols> try ./filename.bin
[01:07] <[freebsd> lol
[01:07] <Cols> What ist he ebst way to show my internet connectivity as a statistic for a website?
[01:08] <warpedmind> chmod +x filename.bin
[01:08] <[freebsd> whats the sources.list entry for apt multiverse?
[01:08] <norrbaggen> thanx il try rhat
[01:08] <jp> raDeon can you share the box icon that you have on your panel?? :D it's cool! :D
[01:08] <warpedmind> make sure the bin is executable
[01:08] <ska-fan> It's maybe linux-headers.
[01:08] <Shuddertrix> norrbaggen: one thing you should know, cedega is not free.
[01:08] <danko123456> ok, tell me if this is not weird, that is right on Broadway in Winnipeg where I live : http://207.161.57.251/bears/
[01:10] <norrbaggen> i realised that now
[01:10] <norrbaggen> dc here i come
[01:10] <warpedmind> anyone got LTSP working?
[01:10] <SynapseLapse> Holy cow.  Are there really 483 people in this room?
[01:10] <danko123456> no.
[01:11] <[freebsd> lol
[01:11] <Shuddertrix> SynapseLapse: bots, idlers, and people that active.
[01:11] <hswales> can someone tell me the addresses for marilat and backports i put in the ones i found on the web and i get forbidden when i apt-get update
[01:11] <SynapseLapse> Ahh, I see.
[01:11] <danko123456> 483 irc instances are connected to this server, and joined in this channel.
[01:11] <SynapseLapse> Wow.  x-chat has a really slick interface.
[01:11] <danko123456> did you guys look at that link?
[01:11] <jaysunn> Hello all,
[01:11] <[freebsd> no
[01:13] <leathersr> I have a question for anyone who has backports in their repo list... I'm trying to find the sun jre or j2sdk for ver 1.5... I can't seem to locate it using either of the mirrors mentioned on the backports site today or on ubuntu guide
[01:13] <danko123456> [freebsd: and why not?
[01:16] <hswales> leathersr, you know the backports server urls?
[01:16] <leathersr> yes
[01:16] <hswales> could you pass em on the ones i found on the web seem to be wrong
[01:16] <hswales> cuz im gettin errors forbidden when i try to use em
[01:16] <[freebsd> How do I set KDM to default instead of GDM?
[01:17] <Fator_Dee> in where is the browser to be used by the terminal specified? (right-clicking on url and then "Open Link")
[01:17] <leathersr> I wasn't getting anywhere with the mirrormax ones so I used the aussie ones... just a sec I'll paste it
[01:17] <jaysunn> how do you install KDE desktop.  I just installed UBUNTU using one cdrom.  I do not see an option for KDE
[01:17] <hswales> kewl man thanks
[01:18] <Demitar> Fator_Dee, System -> Settings -> Preferred Applications (or whatever it's called in english).
[01:18] <leathersr> the base url is this... just tack on the correct stuff after
[01:18] <leathersr>  ftp://ftp2.caliu.info/backports/
[01:18] <hswales> jaysunn, cuz ubuntu doesnt install kde it installs gnome kubuntu installs kde and not gnome i would assume apt-get install kde would work for ya
[01:18] <[freebsd> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:18] <Anubis> Failed to fetch http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports/dists/hoary-extras/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  403 Forbidden
[01:18] <[freebsd> Anubis
[01:18] <jaysunn> ill try thanks
[01:18] <Anubis> more down than up
[01:18] <[freebsd> Backports have done that to me for about 2 weeks
[01:18] <kvidell> so. the internet died here a minute ago so I'll ask again because I don't think it got through, either way I didn't see an answer: Is there a repository anywhere for gnome-panel apps/widgets?
[01:18] <[freebsd> gnome-look.org
[01:18] <shaya> is there a weird problem w/ breezy and gnome key bindings?
[01:19] <shaya> every ctrl-combo in evolution does ctrl-i (Import) for me
[01:19] <jaysunn> Package kde is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:19] <jaysunn> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[01:19] <jaysunn> is only available from another source
[01:19] <jaysunn> E: Package kde has no installation candidate
[01:19] <jaysunn> any idea
[01:19] <[freebsd> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:19] <leathersr> they put the mirrormax uri on ubuntuguide so it'll get a pounding
[01:19] <Davey> OK, I just used the Keyboard Shortcuts thing in Gnome, and set my multimedia keys up, but how to make rythmbox understand them?
[01:19] <Fator_Dee> Demitar: I'm not in gnome now so do you know the command to execute that app?
[01:20] <leathersr> anyway, its still not giving me the stuff I expect from extras staging so I'm a bit buggered
[01:20] <jaysunn> cool
[01:20] <KarlosII> Anubis, read the forum use other mirrors
[01:20] <Demitar> Fator_Dee, gnome-default-applications-properties
[01:20] <jaysunn> it asked for the cd
[01:20] <KarlosII> [freebsd, you to read the dorums
[01:20] <shaya> in gedit every ctrl combo does ctrl-n
[01:20] <KarlosII> err forums
[01:21] <Fator_Dee> Demitar: thanks a lot
[01:21] <jaysunn> what are the adavantages or disadvantages of GNOME verses KDE
[01:21] <hswales> perfect thanks leather
[01:22] <^thehatsrule^> jaysunn, you can read that anywhere ^^
[01:22] <jaysunn> where
[01:22] <ccc> jaysunn: no need to ask, you'll get different answers from everyone. try both yourself, that's the only way to find out.
[01:22] <jaysunn> thank you
[01:22] <KarlosII> gnome is much more professional looking
[01:22] <KarlosII> imho
[01:23] <leathersr> hswales: let me know if you can apt-cache search sun-j
[01:23] <ccc> KarlosII: i did the same
[01:23] <jaysunn> i like it
[01:23] <KarlosII> I was a kanotix supporter for a long time
[01:23] <KarlosII> in fact I was there for the founding of the channel
[01:23] <jaysunn> whats kanotix
[01:23] <KarlosII> :>
[01:24] <KarlosII> it's ranked 18 on distrowatch
[01:24] <jaysunn> cool
[01:24] <raDeon> LMAO DISTROWATCH
[01:24] <raDeon> HAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAA UBUNTU #1
[01:24] <raDeon> FUCK YEAH
[01:24] <KarlosII> it's xfree/kde based, with excellent hardware support, better then ubuntu imho
[01:25] <jaysunn> really
[01:25] <KarlosII> I'm talking hardware support
[01:25] <KarlosII> when i say better
[01:25] <Anubis> KarlosII, you have a link, I see no mirrors
[01:25] <KarlosII> www.kanotix.com
[01:25] <KarlosII> Anubis, huh
[01:25] <KarlosII> oh
[01:25] <KarlosII> read the forums for backports
[01:25] <jaysunn> checking it out
[01:26] <jamie_> Anyone have any luck installing VMWare in Unbuntu?
[01:26] <jp> raDeon, fuck you asshole
[01:26] <KarlosII> my video players messed up bad...I think I need to reinstall them
[01:26] <jp> :)
[01:26] <jaysunn> vmware is my next project
[01:26] <raDeon> jp, what's wrong with you?
[01:27] <jp> raDeon r u armenian?
[01:27] <jp> wuahahhahaha
[01:27] <jp> =)
[01:27] <KarlosII> mplayer crashes and totem locks up after one video being played and xine resizes the screen
[01:27] <KarlosII> to 640x480
[01:27] <danko123456> ok, tell me if this is not weird, that is right on Broadway in Winnipeg where I live : http://207.161.57.251/bears/
[01:27] <danko123456> why is there no comment on that:(
[01:29] <ccc> danko123456: what?
[01:30] <danko123456> did you check out the site?
[01:31] <SynapseLapse> Wow.
[01:31] <SynapseLapse> Maybe no one here will find it amazing, but I finally got MP3s to play on Ubuntu. ^_^.
[01:31] <flodine> can someone help me get this gmpc playing
[01:31] <Anubis> http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/url.php
[01:32] <Anubis> mirrors
[01:32] <flodine> help if you can
[01:32] <danko123456> SynapseLapse: wow, how;)...
[01:32] <danko123456> whats a gmpc?
[01:32] <danko123456> just a sec, actually.
[01:32] <Zodiac> sup dawgs
[01:33] <Zodiac> Man I love Ubuntu
[01:33] <danko123456> sup dawg, g...
[01:33] <Zodiac> I cannot believe I actually paid to get Madriva
[01:33] <SynapseLapse> dpkg -i gstreamer0.8-mad_0.8.8-2_i386.deb = My old mp3s now play.
[01:33] <houstontx> hello from Houston TX
[01:33] <danko123456> hi!
[01:33] <flodine> gmpc=gnome music player
[01:33] <houstontx> i need yall's advice on a DSl problem
[01:33] <danko123456> Client, yeah, I searched
[01:34] <danko123456> houstontx: go ahead.
[01:34] <houstontx> the phone co told me that i should multiply my d/l speed by a multiple of 8
[01:34] <houstontx> it seems as though i am "maxxed out" at 40 KB
[01:34] <Zodiac> ok
[01:34] <Zodiac> ha!
[01:35] <Zodiac> That stinks
[01:35] <houstontx> but phone company says KB should be multiplied by eight
[01:35] <danko123456> houstontx: if you dont ahve a router, or a firewall, you should be faster.
[01:35] <danko123456> yes, that is correct, houstontx, they should.
[01:35] <jamie_> 8 bits in a byte houstontx
[01:35] <houstontx> no just a straight DSL 384 Kbps commection through phone
[01:35] <Zodiac> true dat trinidad
[01:35] <hswales> god im about to scrap this distro
[01:35] <danko123456> phone? a DSL modem?
[01:35] <hswales> dvd playback is unsupported thats so gay
[01:35] <houstontx> so technically, 40 KB would be 320 Kbps????
[01:36] <hswales> even redhat supports dvd playback
[01:36] <houstontx> yes danko....sorry
[01:36] <Zodiac> hswales, yea but it is easy to get going
[01:36] <danko123456> hswales: try www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[01:36] <Zodiac> yea
[01:36] <danko123456> please, and thank you:)
[01:36] <jamie_> I got DVD playback to work
[01:36] <Zodiac> I was just about to post that
[01:36] <danko123456> houstontx: and you are online?
[01:36] <houstontx> yes danko constantly (i never turn off modem)
[01:36] <danko123456> with that...
[01:37] <danko123456> ok, well, tell me this, do you know the ftp server name for your online storage?
[01:37] <jamie_> DVD playback http://ubuntuguide.org/#dvdplayback
[01:37] <houstontx> unknown danko
[01:37] <danko123456> ok, hm... what is the ISP, I think I should be able to figure that out easy...
[01:37] <houstontx> i am new to the computer thing
[01:37] <ccc> houstontx: you're counting backwards =) 384 / 8 = 48 k (your max speed, probably)
[01:37] <danko123456> flodine: how do you import a file?
[01:37] <mcquaid> hello, i was going to try OO 1.9 but when I flag OO 1.3 for removal it wants to remove language-support-en
[01:37] <houstontx> SBC Yahoo DSL Houston
[01:38] <mcquaid> is something that i just reinstall after replacing oo 1.3 with 1.9?
[01:38] <houstontx> provided through Southwestern Bell telephone
[01:38] <danko123456> k, just a sec, houstontx, Ill google, and try pinging...
[01:38] <jamie_> just in case some of you haven't seen this site http://ubuntuguide.org has alot of great tips
[01:38] <houstontx> ok
[01:38] <danko123456> flodine: why use that gmpc? what type of files?
[01:38] <danko123456> jamie_: thanks:)
[01:39] <jaysunn> I just installed KDE with apt-get install kubuntu-desktop.  How do I switch to it.  I tried restarting, but I heard that is only for WIndows
[01:39] <houstontx> danko ...try www.houston.sbcglobal.net ???
[01:39] <mcquaid> i guess i don't see why removing openoffice pkgs wants to remove language support which is used by other programs besides oo.
[01:39] <Zodiac> What the hell is menu editor>
[01:39] <Zodiac> ?
[01:39] <Riddell> jaysunn: log out, click session, choose KDE, log in
[01:40] <jaysunn> cool
[01:40] <mcquaid> i think it might be an incorrect dependency?
[01:40] <danko123456> houstontx: that does not exist...
[01:40] <houstontx> i know that it is sbc global but dont know IP
[01:40] <MonoNoSaint> Hello everyone!
[01:40] <houstontx> addr
[01:40] <danko123456> Zodiac: a menu editor, for the Apps menu in gnome
[01:40] <MonoNoSaint> I'm having a problem on recording and generating CDs ISOs...
[01:41] <flodine> danko123456 mp3s
[01:41] <MonoNoSaint> cdrecord complain there are issues with cdrecord and 2.5.x kernel from on...
[01:41] <flodine> danko123456 do you use it
[01:41] <MonoNoSaint> *complains*
[01:41] <ech0> does anyone know of a gnome panel that will alert you when you have new mail?
[01:41] <Zodiac> dag
[01:41] <MonoNoSaint> how could I record my CDs so?
[01:41] <danko123456>  SBC Yahoo! Photos with unlimited online storage
[01:41] <jamie_> I use GnomeBaker
[01:41] <danko123456>  SBC Yahoo! Briefcase with up to 760 MB of online storage
[01:41] <choice3d> hello.
[01:41] <danko123456> flodine: I use xmms.
[01:41] <entropy> would it be bad to run 2 apt-get installs simutaneously?
[01:41] <MonoNoSaint> jamie: me too
[01:42] <MonoNoSaint> and also Graveman, vut both don't record..
[01:42] <danko123456> some use beep-media-player, and other programs, I dunno which ones, I have like 5 installed.
[01:42] <Zodiac> hey guys, for that DVD whatnot, what repository will I need?
[01:42] <MonoNoSaint> *but*
[01:42] <aeolist> entropy, i dont think you can
[01:42] <synd> is vnc viewer easy to use?
[01:42] <houstontx> danko ... click on "whois" on me and find my IP then see the dsl.hstntx.sbc etc then see what you can find
[01:43] <houstontx> maybe that can help
[01:43] <Zodiac> Anybody know?
[01:43] <jamie_> Zodiac, add the repositories http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[01:43] <Zodiac> okay,
[01:43] <Zodiac> That will have the dependencies as well right??
[01:43] <jamie_> yes
[01:43] <leathersr> entropy there is a lock file that gets flipped whenever you do stuff that makes a change in your status file, so you can't do that
[01:43] <danko123456> houstontx: no, I will find this pretty quick...just a few moments, please.
[01:43] <jamie_> has everything on that page
[01:43] <Zodiac> wait
[01:43] <houstontx> ok sorry
[01:43] <Zodiac> ahh okay
[01:43] <danko123456> no need for ssorry...
[01:43] <entropy> leatherrsr: thanks. I haven't tried it, I was just wondering if it was possible.
[01:43] <MonoNoSaint> I have anice backup script for me that does all the job, from the backups to the iso generation... but cdrecord really is driving me crazy.
[01:44] <MonoNoSaint> *a nice*
[01:44] <MonoNoSaint> I type too fast, he he he
[01:44] <raDeon> LMAO TYPING SPEED
[01:44] <choice3d> would someone mind walking me through changing my Gforce driven resolution to something other than 640x480?
[01:44] <Triffid_Hunter> cdrecord loves me..
[01:44] <houstontx> i am frustrated with this. A close friend of mine is on here all the time (nalioth) and he said I am no getting what i am paying for
[01:45] <danko123456> nalioth:)
[01:45] <houstontx> i seriously dont think his is worth $26.95 per month!
[01:45] <danko123456> houstontx: hey, could you call them up and ask themif they have a ftp server?
[01:45] <danko123456> that you could connect to?
[01:45] <danko123456> for online storage...
[01:45] <houstontx> nalioth and i were team drivers in 18-wheeler until December 04
[01:45] <danko123456> I cant seem to find it...
[01:45] <danko123456> nice
[01:45] <MonoNoSaint> so... anybody did solve this issue?
[01:45] <jamie_> I am testing now Mono
[01:46] <houstontx> if you can speak Indian, try 1-877-SBC-DSL5
[01:46] <leathersr> entropy Im sure you could play some file linking games to brute force do it, but I think you'd bugger yourself in a hurry.  For giggles rename your status file to status.old or something and then do an apt-get install on gedit or something... it will be immediately evident why you don't want to run 2 instances at once
[01:46] <danko123456> :)
[01:46] <jamie_> Honestly haven't tried making on ISO
[01:46] <danko123456> just a sec
[01:46] <MonoNoSaint> jamie_: I was programming on Mono minutes ago.
[01:46] <MonoNoSaint> But now time to backup... he he he
[01:47] <MonoNoSaint> That why I need cdrecord :-(
[01:47] <flodine> man gnome and ubuntu are perfect together
[01:47] <natex> MonoNoSaint, what's wrong with cdrecord?
[01:47] <danko123456> I need the phone number
[01:47] <danko123456> :)
[01:47] <danko123456> Ill figure it out
[01:47] <houstontx> 713-947-1619
[01:47] <MonoNoSaint> natex: it complains abour kernel version 2.5.x from on
[01:47] <MonoNoSaint> and don't generate my ISO images.
[01:47] <MonoNoSaint> *doesn't8
[01:48] <MonoNoSaint> *about*
[01:48] <houstontx> account name : William Seattle
[01:48] <MonoNoSaint> sorry my fast typing
[01:48] <natex> MonoNoSaint, sounds like you may need to recompile.
[01:48] <natex> MonoNoSaint, recompile cdrecord that is
[01:48] <houstontx> modem password: houston
[01:49] <MonoNoSaint> will I have any problem with dependencies?
[01:49] <houstontx> modem serial number: 3584323952
[01:49] <quailster> Is anyone here familiar with MySQL?
[01:49] <danko123456> hey, thanks
[01:49] <Triffid_Hunter> MonoNoSaint: what options are you passing to it? it works fine for me
[01:49] <houstontx> if you can figure it out...more power to you!
[01:49] <natex> MonoNoSaint, probably not.... btw which cdrecord are you using?
[01:50] <danko123456> houston, nice prompt system
[01:50] <MonoNoSaint> I'll do a --version... 1 sec...
[01:50] <houstontx> what danko?
[01:50] <MonoNoSaint> Cdrecord-Clone 2.01a38
[01:50] <MonoNoSaint> -clone????
[01:50] <houstontx> oh...you mean the recording :)
[01:50] <natex> MonoNoSaint, hehe
[01:50] <quailster> I need to know why mysqld is running yet I cannot see open port for it when I do 'nmap -p 0-60000 localhost'
[01:51] <natex> MonoNoSaint, ccdrecord that comes with Hoary runs flawlessly
[01:51] <MonoNoSaint> my iso generation is just simple:
[01:51] <[Spooky] > where do i find cdrdao ?
[01:51] <Arv3n> Hello.
[01:51] <Arv3n> Can anyone help me?
[01:51] <danko123456> no
[01:51] <qqq_> me too :)
[01:51] <MonoNoSaint> To generate the iso:
[01:51] <danko123456> sorry, fufe.
[01:51] <qqq_> hello :)
[01:51] <MonoNoSaint> mkisofs -joliet-long -o /home/tiago/backup/iso/storage/"$hoje"/data.iso -JrT /home/tiago/backup/dados/storage
[01:51] <danko123456> duded.
[01:52] <houstontx> ?
[01:52] <danko123456> Arv3n: jj, go ahead
[01:52] <Arv3n> heres the problem, whenever i get to the logon screen on kubuntu, theres just lines going vertically
[01:52] <houstontx> danko...where in Usa are you?
[01:52] <Arv3n> its mostly greenish
[01:52] <Arv3n> i cant explain it
[01:52] <Arv3n> im trying as best i can
[01:53] <natex> [Spooky] , it's in universe
[01:53] <Arv3n> want to see the forum topic, its more in-depth.
[01:53] <MonoNoSaint> I'm upgrading cdrecord and mkisofs from breezy repositories... let's see if that solves my problem.
[01:53] <qqq_> guys is there a compiler in the ubuntu livecd?
[01:53] <houstontx> i just tried the bandwidth tester at www.dslreports.com and it said 319 up 306 down
[01:53] <Arv3n> nm i got help
[01:53] <Arv3n> goodbye
[01:54] <natex> MonoNoSaint, are you using hoary?
[01:54] <MonoNoSaint> natex: yep
[01:54] <MonoNoSaint> but some packages from breezy, like Mono...
[01:55] <MonoNoSaint> mono*
[01:55] <natex> MonoNoSaint, custom kernel?
[01:55] <entropy> If I do a sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[01:55] <entropy>  it says that it cannot find the package.. ?
[01:55] <MonoNoSaint> norm_, default one from hoary
[01:55] <Blissex> entropy: use something like aptitude os synaptic instead to see whats available...
[01:56] <MonoNoSaint> finiit installed the packages, let's see if I'm lucky now...
[01:56] <leathersr> entropy I am having the same problem - It seems that some of the package.gz files on the backport mirrors are empty... at least that is what I am seeing
[01:56] <danko123456> hey, houston:)
[01:57] <MonoNoSaint> man, again!
[01:57] <MonoNoSaint> cdrecord: Warning: Running on Linux-2.6.10-5-386
[01:57] <entropy> leathersr: do you know how I can fix this?
[01:57] <MonoNoSaint> cdrecord: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer.
[01:57] <danko123456> houstontx left...
[01:57] <danko123456> well, I was on the phone with his ISP...
[01:57] <danko123456> :)
[01:58] <MonoNoSaint> tried cdrecord -scanbus but it doesn't work...
[01:58] <leathersr> entropt: at this point, I think, be patient and keep trying to check the backports is the best option
[01:58] <choice3d> could someone link me to good directions for a newb on changing the screen resolution, my only option is 640x480 but in my xorg.conf all the resolutions i want to run are listed.
[01:59] <leathersr> frankly, its starting to vex me a bit - - if this keeps up I'll be back to sarge pretty soon... sigh
[01:59] <MonoNoSaint> isn't there another tool for me to make this ISOs?
[01:59] <MonoNoSaint> just mkisofs and cdrecord?
[01:59] <natex> MonoNoSaint, sounds like the iso isn;t the problem, you aren't using cdrecord correctly
[02:00] <natex> MonoNoSaint, what is your cdrecord command?
[02:00] <Triffid_Hunter> MonoNoSaint: it says that to me too, but works fine.. i just had to tell it to not try and use scsi
[02:01] <MonoNoSaint> cdcdrecord dev=0,0,0 -v speed=4 -eject -multi -data /home/tiago/backup/iso/storage/"$hoje"/data.iso
[02:01] <choice3d> any chance someone would pm and walk me through a couple of basic things just to get me rolling... the fixed resolution is driving me crazy!
[02:01] <Triffid_Hunter> MonoNoSaint: is your cd burner an ide device?
[02:01] <natex> MonoNoSaint, and what is the error?
[02:01] <MonoNoSaint> yep, no scsi
[02:01] <Triffid_Hunter> MonoNoSaint: try dev=/dev/hdc or whatever yours is instead of 0,0,0
[02:02] <StR> Hi there...
[02:02] <StR> anyone using gmailfs with ubuntu?
[02:02] <MonoNoSaint> let's see... mine is hdd
[02:03] <Zotnix> :D
[02:03] <Zotnix> Heh
[02:03] <Zotnix> Okay, I'm a dork
[02:03] <natex> :)
[02:04] <Zotnix> and if anyone gets that yet, they are dorks too :p Unless they are the creator of that
[02:05] <danko123456> ?@zotnix...
[02:05] <MonoNoSaint> I think it is working now! mkisofs just complained about some UTF-8 stuff but I think everything is all right, my CD is being formatted!
[02:06] <cesar_> hi all, i have some problems with my sound in ubuntu . . .
[02:07] <cesar_> i have a CM19761
[02:07] <Davey> where can I set file associations?
[02:07] <Shuddertrix> Top Issues: 1) ATI 2) Sound
[02:07] <Shuddertrix> (based on my own watchings
[02:07] <cesar_> :P
[02:07] <Shuddertrix> cesar_: what is wrong with it?
[02:08] <cesar_> hi Shuddertrix , the sound doenst work at all
[02:08] <Triffid_Hunter> MonoNoSaint: yeah it took me a while to figure that out.. it also whinges about using a device node as a device being depreciated, but it always seems to work better...
[02:08] <cesar_> but seem installed
[02:08] <Shuddertrix> cesar_: Is the volume muted? Check the mixer..
[02:08] <jp> which emulator can emulate things like adobe illustrator? or fireworks mx? I tried with wine, but it doesn't supporte newly installshields, thanks :)
[02:08] <cesar_> checked alredy , in every possible way ;)
[02:09] <Shuddertrix> jp: the Illustrator version before CS works wonderfully under CrossOffice.
[02:09] <jp> Shuddertrix thanks!
[02:09] <Shuddertrix> jp: If that doesn't work well for you, you could probably use VMware or the likes to run those.
[02:09] <cesar_> i check on google , and seems that a lot of people cant make his c media sound cards work in Ubuntu
[02:09] <rat51man> *Crossover Office
[02:09] <jp> Shuddertrix ok thanks :P ;)
[02:10] <MonoNoSaint> Thank you everyone! Another trick learned. And congratulations for your support! That's helps me to be a happy ubuntu user... ;-)
[02:10] <Shuddertrix> rat51man: There's pretty much no need for the office on the end. People will know what you talk about.
[02:10] <Shuddertrix> rat51man: And -10 eliteness points for correcting someone. Better thank the heavens that no one is counting.
[02:10] <rat51man> Eh, guess you're right.
[02:11] <rat51man> >_>
[02:11] <knoppix> hey
[02:11] <knoppix> i need help again
[02:11] <knoppix> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38272
[02:11] <Shuddertrix> Hello knoppix user ;)
[02:11] <knoppix> read up, then say if you can help me please
[02:12] <KarlosII> knoppix users
[02:12] <knoppix> im only using knoppix because its a live cd and thats the only thing i can use right now because kubuntu isnt working
[02:12] <knoppix> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38272
[02:12] <KarlosII> gee haven't they heard of using a non live-cd oriented distribution for hdd install?
[02:12] <knoppix> wtfudge?
[02:12] <knoppix> i have kubuntu installed
[02:12] <rat51man> You should probably join #kubuntu
[02:12] <knoppix> im just using a live cd because my hd installation isnt working
[02:13] <knoppix> i didnt know they had a kubuntu channel
[02:13] <KarlosII> of course
[02:13] <knoppix> -.-
[02:13] <mrclark> hi guys. Trying to install freenx on kubuntu 5.04 using instructions from http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1968
[02:13] <Jormundgand> knoppix: Reinstall Kubuntu. I don't know what you've done to it but it's screwed.
[02:13] <cesar_> hmm , seems to be a lot of kubuntu questions too :P
[02:13] <mrclark> When I add 'deb http://kanotix.com/files/debian/ ./' to my sources.list file I get the following error in synaptic:
[02:13] <Jormundgand> Damn.
[02:14] <KarlosII> mrclark, what are you doing and why?
[02:14] <mrclark> oh hold on.
[02:14] <mrclark> I'm trying to install freenx.
[02:14] <KarlosII> mrclark, use the backports repository
[02:15] <Shuddertrix> or browse to kanotix.com/files/debian and look in the freenx directory ;)
[02:15] <mrclark> Sorry. where's the backports repository?
[02:15] <mrclark> I've tried and I'm getting all sorts of errors.
[02:15] <mrclark> Hold on. let me try again.
[02:15] <KarlosII> use the mirrors re: ubuntu backports forum
[02:16] <MonoNoSaint> bye and thank you all again. :-)
[02:16] <Shuddertrix> There's a umn mirror, too, i gotta add that ;D
[02:16] <nalioth> howdy ya'll
[02:16] <KarlosII> u only use one
[02:17] <mrclark> KarlosII, So you're saying I should ignore the instructions in the forums?
[02:18] <nalioth> mrclark: depends on which forum...i find ubuntuguide to be failing in some aspects
[02:18] <mrclark> Has anybody here managed to get freenx working?
[02:19] <Fackamato> mrclark: what is it?
[02:20] <leslie__> hello
[02:20] <leslie__> can i get help
[02:20] <leslie__> i can't get any sound
[02:20] <mrclark> Fackamato, Its the GPL'd version of the code from nomachine. It compresses the X packets to allow you to run over slow connections.
[02:20] <mrclark> Sort of like LTSP but compressed.
[02:20] <Fackamato> aha
[02:21] <Fackamato> sorry, never used it
[02:21] <mrclark> www.nomachine.com
[02:21] <cesar_> hi leslie , you have tried to put the name of your soundcard in google ?
[02:21] <cesar_> maybe the sound card is not supported by ubuntu
[02:21] <cesar_> i have the same problem too ;)
[02:21] <leslie__> is there a way to find out my sound card
[02:21] <Fackamato> lspci
[02:21] <leslie__> i've tried alsa, etc, but it does not work
[02:22] <leslie__> what's lspci?
[02:22] <nalioth> leslie__: have you tried the fixes at ubuntulinux.org/wiki or ubuntuguide.org?
[02:22] <leslie__> yes
[02:23] <iceman2K> is oppen mossix a module for ubuntu ?
[02:23] <joe|code> Are the backport repositories not working?
[02:24] <cesar_> leslie: your sond card is integrated to your motherboard ?
[02:24] <joe|code> nevermind. I see the forum post.
[02:24] <nalioth> joe|code: backports are dangerous
[02:24] <leslie__> im not sure
[02:24] <iceman2K> shoot how to get mossix installed on ubuntu ..
[02:24] <leslie__> is there a command or app that can detect my sound card?
[02:24] <^thehatsrule^> modprobe ?
[02:25] <leslie__> i've went to volume control preferences
[02:25] <^thehatsrule^> esd i suppose
[02:25] <leslie__> but it only says "microphone"
[02:25] <cesar_> yup , a very easy way , in gnome go the control preferences and right click
[02:25] <cesar_> then , select the . . . preferencies , or setings
[02:26] <cesar_> that should show you a window with some information about your soundcard
[02:26] <leslie__> how do i go to control preferences?
[02:26] <spanglesontoast> can someone help me
[02:26] <Fackamato> spanglesontoast: no
[02:27] <stevenj> I followed the ubuntu guide (5.04) and I get this?!? Failed to fetch http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  403 Forbidden  -- why???
[02:27] <cesar_> if your are using gnome , is the speaker-like icon
[02:27] <entropy> anyone know why I can't install some things right now like flashplayer-mozilla?
[02:27] <cesar_> close to the clock
[02:27] <spanglesontoast> well I cannot make my gateway monitor work with a radeon driver
[02:27] <cesar_> just right click in the icon
[02:27] <nalioth> stevenj: stay away from backports, they can cause future breakage
[02:27] <leslie__> ok
[02:27] <leslie__> but it doesn't show anything about my soudn card
[02:27] <leslie__> it just says "Microphone":
[02:27] <nalioth> entropy: have you enabled your repository list?
[02:28] <entropy> nalioth: Where do I do that?
[02:28] <iceman2K> anyone using a mosix cluster kernel in ubuntu ?
[02:28] <stevenj> nalioth, I wonder why the ubuntu guide that is so praised changed the sample repos to backports---I already upgraded the backport stuff :(
[02:28] <raDeon> WHO CALLED FOR ME
[02:28] <raDeon> WHAT U WANT
[02:28] <raDeon> SPEAK UP
[02:28] <raDeon> NOW
[02:28] <cesar_> hmmm . . . well , if no one has another idea . . . it could be that your soundcard is not working at all :P , or ubuntu cant work with your sound card
[02:29] <leslie__> oh
[02:29] <leslie__> it works wiht windows
[02:29] <leslie__> but not any type of linux
[02:29] <leslie__> i've tried
[02:29] <[Spooky] > what is max filesize for tar.gz ?
[02:29] <cesar_> i have the same problem too, my sound card is a C media chip . . . it works with Fedora linux
[02:30] <cesar_> but not with ubuntu
[02:30] <leslie__> ah
[02:30] <nalioth> entropy: view ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ for 'restrictd formats'
[02:30] <Fackamato> [Spooky] : ?
[02:30] <cesar_> i probably will buy a cheap pci sound card :P
[02:30] <leslie__> i'd hate to go back to windows
[02:30] <leslie__> :(
[02:30] <nalioth> stevenj: you'll be alright if you remove the backport stuff and keep on doin what your doin
[02:30] <[Spooky] > Fackamato: i mean like zip only support max 2 gb... is there a limitation for tar ?
[02:30] <cesar_> me too , je je je je , i use my minidisk to hear music when im working in ubuntu
[02:30] <entropy> nalioth: thanks, I will.
[02:30] <Fackamato> [Spooky] : no.
[02:31] <nalioth> leslie__: so silent linux is not better than loud windows?
[02:31] <[Spooky] > Fackamato: cool
[02:31] <pablo921> cesar, i had a C media pci soundcard working with Alsa
[02:31] <iceman2K> well may have to dump ubuntu ... want the open mosix cluster installed with my system
[02:31] <cesar_> pablo : really ? what is the name of your sound card ???
[02:32] <quailster> I'm trying to get MySQL and Connector//J to work in Ubuntu, can anyone help me?
[02:32] <cesar_> my cmedia is a motherboard integrated chip
[02:32] <Fackamato> quailster: where are you failling?
[02:32] <pablo921> I'd have to go look for it. It wqas in another box , but it's real comm, a 4.0 card.
[02:32] <entropy> nalioth: thanks, I got it working :)
[02:32] <cesar_> leslie : well , i work better without changing every moment the mp3 ;) , it could work for you
[02:33] <quailster> Fackamato: I cannot connect to MySQL server. I tried using 'netstat -l -t' and there is no port open for mysql
[02:33] <nalioth> entropy: better to catch it b4 something breaks
[02:33] <Fackamato> quailster: is it installed and running (PID files, init.d scripts etc etc etc)
[02:33] <leslie__> ahh
[02:33] <quailster> Fackamato: but mysqld is currently running in the background, and I used perl with DBD and it worked
[02:34] <] BreliC[> hey everyone..
[02:34] <leslie__> how is fedora core
[02:34] <raDeon> TERRIBLE
[02:34] <raDeon> FUCK FEDORE
[02:34] <cesar_> lol
[02:34] <raDeon> ROGER FEDERER
[02:34] <raDeon> FUCK HIM
[02:34] <cesar_> not so bad really
[02:34] <cesar_> but Ubuntu seems better to me
[02:34] <iceman2K> Anyone installed the openmosix kernel in ubuntu
[02:34] <quailster> Fackamato: it's just Connector//J that is not working. I set all classpath correctly, I'm sure.
[02:35] <nalioth> where are the ops
[02:35] <pablo921> cesar, i installed the C media card before because my on-board 5.1 Via soundcard had a lot of noise with Windows, works great with Ubuntu
[02:35] <] BreliC[> quick question.  i have two reiserfs partitions on my sata drive (the only drive in my system) that i'm trying to mount.  they are reiserfs, and in the fstab, they are listed as "/dev/sda7 /mnt/storage auto defaults 0 0" and same for sda8.
[02:35] <cowbud> raDeon: yah fedora blows ;)
[02:35] <] BreliC[> my problem is that it denies me permission to write to the partitions
[02:35] <cesar_> in Fedora (core 4 was the version i use) i cant use audio cd , i have some problems upgrading and a lot of minor problems
[02:36] <] BreliC[> i tried adding rw and gid=users instead of defaults, but no dice
[02:36] <] BreliC[> anything i'm doing wrong?
[02:36] <cesar_> Ubuntu make everything a little more easy
[02:36] <cesar_> Pablo : hmm , the probably is time to change my sound card , thanks a lot !
[02:36] <cowbud> ] BreliC[: I thought you had to put the actual group number..I might be wrong though
[02:36] <] BreliC[> cowbud, i tried that too (gid=100)
[02:36] <cowbud> ] BreliC[: did you remount it after you did it?
[02:37] <] BreliC[> i have a vfat partition mounted without problem
[02:37] <] BreliC[> cowbud, yes
[02:37] <cowbud> ] BreliC[: who owns the dir it is mounted under that is probably your issue..
[02:37] <] BreliC[> root owns it, group is users
[02:37] <cowbud> for example can you as the user go in to that dir without the drive mounted and write in to it?
[02:37] <nalioth> ] BreliC[: i saw an wiki entry t'other day at ubuntu, but here's mine (not from the article) rw,auto,umask=000
[02:37] <] BreliC[> so is the vfat drive and that one's fine
[02:37] <] BreliC[> nalioth, thanks, i'll try that
[02:38] <] BreliC[> nalioth, no 2 at the end of umask?
[02:40] <leslie__> where can i manage my printers
[02:40] <iceman2K> where to get virtual packages
[02:40] <leslie__> in ubuntu
[02:41] <nalioth> ] BreliC[: that is what i have on my system, and i can r/w w/o any trouble
[02:41] <leslie__> thanks, i've found it
[02:41] <nalioth> ] BreliC[: you might want to ask uncle google about mounting filesystms
[02:42] <iceman2K> how do you get virtual packages for ubuntu
[02:42] <r0d> can you use splashimages /w ubuntu??
[02:42] <Jormundgand> No. Wait for Breezy.
[02:43] <CHUANG> I've just installed ubuntu and once started the screen is black... I know it's started because I typed in user and password and heard startup music.
[02:43] <r0d> and when is that coming out
[02:43] <] BreliC[> nalioth, i know how to mount them... done it many times, but on this fresh install (new computer too), it's giving me that problem... strange indeed
[02:43] <Jormundgand> October.
[02:43] <cesar_> whath is Breezy ?
[02:43] <Jormundgand> Breezy is the new, in-development, highly-volatile Ubuntu.
[02:43] <^thehatsrule^> cesar_, ubuntu testing i think...
[02:44] <cesar_> ahhh , the new for-testing ubuntu ???
[02:44] <Jormundgand> Yes. Don't use it, it is broken in places.
[02:44] <iceman2K> any one know how to add virtual package to download ?
[02:44] <cesar_> what new thing will have Breezy ?
[02:45] <Jormundgand> cesar_: Please consult the all-knowing Wiki.
[02:45] <cesar_> thanks a lot !
[02:45] <arvin> im having problems with my x86config-4 file wenever i try to do sudo gedit, the file is blank
[02:45] <joe|code> The ubuntuguide shows that installing java is done by sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5, but the package is not found.
[02:45] <r0d> Jormundgand, I was told their was a way to use splashimages..
[02:45] <paul__> chuang restart Ubuntu in terminal and enter sudo dpkg-reconfigure x server-xorg and see if you can configure your video driver
[02:45] <Jormundgand> r0d: Splash images as in pretty pictures at boot? It's called usplash and it doesn't work.
[02:46] <CHUANG> HELP...I've just installed ubuntu and once started the screen is black...
[02:47] <cesar_> CHUANG : after the CMOS screen , it happens something ?
[02:47] <iceman2K> I need help getting openmisix to install buntu says it's a virtual package ?
[02:47] <cesar_> like a text telling you that the kernel is opening or something like that ?
[02:47] <paul__> chuang is Ubuntu the only OS installed?
[02:48] <CHUANG> at login screen
[02:48] <CHUANG> yes
[02:48] <arvin> anyone know why my x86conf is blank when i try to open with gedit?
[02:48] <nalioth> ] BreliC[: ask the google
[02:48] <nalioth> joe|code: don't follow the guide for java
[02:48] <cesar_> hmm , do you use the test for the cd ? , you could dl a corrupted file
[02:48] <paul__> chuang at the log-in screen in sessions select termional
[02:48] <nalioth> joe|code: find the wiki entry where you d/l the bin
[02:49] <paul__> *terminal
[02:49] <CHUANG> can't see anything to select
[02:49] <leslie__>                                                blows
[02:50] <paul__> at the bottom left of the log-in screen you should have "sessions"
[02:50] <Jormundgand> arvin: Assuming you're using Ubuntu Hoary, that's because there is no XF86Config. Try xorg.conf.
[02:51] <paul__> chuang do you have warty or hoary?
[02:51] <arvin> jormundgand: thanks, im trying to get the wiki howto for the synaptics touchpad driver to work with my laptop
[02:51] <CHUANG> is there a key I can hit to change resolution?
[02:51] <arvin> and the wiki tells me i need to open xf86config-4
[02:52] <iceman2K> anyone know how to install virtual package's ...
[02:52] <iceman2K> where can u download them ?
[02:53] <paul__> chuang which version or Ubuntu did you insatll?
[02:53] <danko123456> CHUANG: well, maybe not a key...
[02:53] <Eddie> hi guys
[02:53] <CHUANG> paul__: 5.04
[02:53] <paul__> 8install?
[02:54] <Eddie> is anyone here familiar with the game xshipwars
[02:54] <xml-blog> hi everyone!
[02:54] <[Spooky] > man i think im in love with Ubuntu :)
[02:54] <cesar_> snifff , the new "basic boot config" of breezy was something i always wanted
[02:54] <paul__> chuang you can change your resolution options with the command i gave you, but first you have to open a terminal
[02:55] <xml-blog> can anyone shed a little light on a kernel-related question for me? :)
[02:55] <thundrcleeze> I can try.
[02:55] <thundrcleeze> I'll probably fail, though, so don't get your hopes up :)
[02:55] <CrazyNorman> hi
[02:55] <xml-blog> thanks. I noticed that the standard ubuntu install configures me to run the 2.6.10 386 kernel
[02:56] <kent> xml-blog, though, if you dont have enough light in your room, you should probably get a lamp ;)
[02:56] <CHUANG> paul__: ok...well i know i'm logged in... how 2 open terminal with keys
[02:56] <xml-blog> but I'm running a P4 and was wondering if it's a good idea to try to run the 686 jernel
[02:56] <paul__> click on "sessions'  select terminal
[02:56] <thundrcleeze> xml-blog, yes.
[02:57] <CHUANG> can't see anything to click...screen is black
[02:57] <thundrcleeze> xml-blog, the 686 should help anything above a P-100
[02:57] <xml-blog> kent, the illuminati are *here* :)
[02:57] <spanglesontoast> what the command for package installing
[02:57] <xml-blog> thundrcleeze, can I just use synaptic?
[02:57] <thundrcleeze> xml-blog, yes.
[02:57] <iceman2K> Shoot, may have to toast my ubuntu install ... how to add openmosix ... to the install
[02:58] <thundrcleeze> xml-blog, if there's any problems when you reboot, you can always go back to any other kernel you've got installed.
[02:58] <paul__> chuang try  ctrl-alt-backspace and select terminal in sessions before you log in
[02:58] <thundrcleeze> spanglesontoast, you mean "sudo apt-get install"?
[02:58] <apollo2011> I bought a 120GB Western Digital hd today and put it in an old Dell PC and installed Kubuntu on it to use it as a Samba File Server for my other Linux/Windows pcs.  Install went fine but when I try to boot, it comes up with grub and doesn't actually boot.  Just show a console with "grub>".  I can't figure out anything to type to force it to boot...
[02:58] <spanglesontoast> no
[02:58] <spanglesontoast> pkg
[02:58] <spanglesontoast> something
[02:58] <xml-blog> thundrcleeze, will it affect any other stuff I may have configured? thanks for the info! one last thing, if I do have problems, how do I go back to the 386
[02:59] <CrazyNorman> Hi
[02:59] <spanglesontoast> for installing debs
[02:59] <CHUANG> ok
[02:59] <xml-blog> why doesn't the installer auto-detect the best kernel?
[02:59] <thundrcleeze> xml-blog, it shouldn't, as far as I know.  I've switched several times and there's no problems. the 686 version is simply optimized.
[02:59] <cthulfuego> xml-blog: There is no "best kernel"
[03:00] <xml-blog> cthulfuego, by best I mean most optimized for my hardware
[03:00] <cthulfuego> xml-blog: That will be the one you compile yourself.
[03:00] <thundrcleeze> xml-blog, if you use grub, it should list "Ubuntu Linux i686" and "Ubuntu Linux i386" or something to that effect.
[03:00] <JStrike> And when he says optimized, he means barely
[03:01] <spanglesontoast> tell me how to install .debs
[03:01] <spanglesontoast> please
[03:01] <JStrike> xml-blog : It really doesn't make much difference
[03:01] <xml-blog> so by the sound of it, it's almost not worth the trouble?
[03:01] <thundrcleeze> spanglesontoast, I think it's dpkg -i  nameofpackage.
[03:01] <JStrike> spanglesontoast : dpkg -i some.deb
[03:01] <thundrcleeze> xml-blog, it couldn't hurt, and it's easy.
[03:01] <spanglesontoast> ty
[03:02] <JStrike> xml-blog : Not really
[03:02] <xml-blog> well, I will have to setup the build environment all over again and recompile my ivtv drivers...
[03:02] <JStrike> Dont believe gentoo users and their "optimization" crap
[03:02] <spanglesontoast> how can I force it to overwrite depencies
[03:02] <xml-blog> haha
[03:02] <thundrcleeze> xml-blog, I haven't had to reconfigure anything after I switched the kernel version.
[03:03] <cthulfuego> xml-blog: There *is* a libc6-686 package with a slightly optimised libc, you mayw ant to consider that.
[03:03] <iceman2K> whats current kernel for ubuntu
[03:03] <JStrike> spanglesontoast : You dont want to do that
[03:03] <thundrcleeze> spanglesontoast, there is a command, but I'm not sure you want to do that.
[03:03] <iceman2K> what is the kernel ? 2.x ?
[03:04] <xml-blog> cthulfuego, I have that lib already
[03:04] <CrazyNorman> I've been running Ubuntu great for months now, and all of a sudden my internet is going really slow (at the same time, the internet on my windows laptop is as fast as ever).  I've read to disable ipv6, so I set the options in firefox based on the howto (so that firefox won't use ipv6).   Firefox continues to load pages much slower (stuck on resolving host for a while) than my Windows pc. ...
[03:04] <spanglesontoast> how about ignore a certain depencies
[03:04] <CrazyNorman> ...The symptoms are the same as people having the Ipv6 problem, but it just started now, without any change I can think of (except that the auto-updated installed a new kernel image).  I'm at a loss of how to solve it.  Any ideas?
[03:04] <apollo2011> I bought a 120GB Western Digital hd today and put it in an old Dell PC and installed Kubuntu on it to use it as a Samba File Server for my other Linux/Windows pcs.  Install went fine but when I try to boot, it comes up with grub and doesn't actually boot.  Just show a console with "grub>".  I can't figure out anything to type to force it to boot...
[03:04] <[freebsd> ok so like. i just ran dist-upgrade with a sources.list to get from warty to hoary, and now my keymap is effed up so i cant even use the right half of my keyboard. how bad am i effed?
[03:04] <iceman2K> how do you id your kernel ?
[03:05] <Fackamato2> iceman2K: uname -a
[03:05] <xml-blog> just out of curiosity, thundr, cthul, what kernels are you running if you don't mind me asking.
[03:06] <xml-blog> thundrcleeze, sorry I meant JStrike. I see you are running the optimized kernel
[03:06] <thundrcleeze> xml-blog, I'm running the newest 686 version of it.
[03:06] <[freebsd> ok so like. i just ran dist-upgrade with a sources.list to get from warty to hoary, and now my keymap is effed up so i cant even use the right half of my keyboard. how bad am i effed?
[03:06] <Fackamato2> [freebsd: Yeah, you're fucked since you're spamming.
[03:06] <spanglesontoast> anyone know much about fglrx?
[03:07] <JStrike> xml-blog : Why would you think that? As I said, "optimized" is over-rated
[03:07] <iceman2K> Fackamato2   2.6.10-5-386 dang no module for openmosix for 2.6.10 only for 2.6.11 and 2.6.09
[03:07] <CrazyNorman> Does anybody know what can cause the internet to run *much* slower on Linux than under Windows (standard ethernet through router through DHCP)?
[03:08] <xml-blog> JStrike, no I meant I saw thundrcleeze is running optimized. I'm just trying to weigh the pros and cons. surely there must be *some* benefit, no?
[03:08] <JStrike> xml-blog : Hardly
[03:09] <hardcampa-> Nothing wrong with optimized.
[03:09] <spanglesontoast> can anyone help me with my current xorg.conf?
[03:09] <hardcampa-> as long as it's stable
[03:09] <iceman2K> Anyone installed a openmosix kernel in ubuntu ?
[03:09] <Fackamato2> spanglesontoast: Help with what?
[03:09] <[freebsd> Fack: your an asshat :)
[03:09] <spanglesontoast> well I want a bigger resolution
[03:09] <CrazyNorman> Just checking, is anybody getting my messages, or am I still not registered correctly with the nick server?
[03:09] <cesar_> CrazyNorman : stupid question probably , but you have a other computers using your conection ? , like a internal LAN network ?
[03:09] <JStrike> spanglesontoast : What is wrong with it
[03:09] <spanglesontoast> well when I assign it to fglrx driver
[03:09] <CrazyNorman> cesar_: A few, but not currently downloading.
[03:10] <spanglesontoast> it gets really small
[03:10] <CrazyNorman> cesar_:(or uploading)
[03:10] <JStrike> spanglesontoast : What is fglrx driver?
[03:10] <cesar_> you have been upgrading your firefox ? you could try to change your internet browser
[03:10] <cesar_> just to see , if is firefox or something else
[03:10] <spanglesontoast> it's a driver that has 3d accelerated etc
[03:11] <spanglesontoast> basically I use it for cedega
[03:11] <xml-blog> JStrike, depressing news. :( I was hoping to see a nice  boost. though I guess I shouldn't really complain since I got a huge boost when I switched over from XP.
[03:11] <CrazyNorman> cesar_:Konqueror and Links are no good either
[03:12] <nalioth> CrazyNorman: i have 2 ubuntu machines (1 x86 & 1 ppc) and 1 OSX machine and they all run fine online
[03:12] <spanglesontoast> but the resolution sucks
[03:12] <CrazyNorman> nalioth:Mine has been, so I wonder what killed it.
[03:12] <spanglesontoast> and I cannot change it while in gnome
[03:12] <CrazyNorman> Have other people gotten a kernel update through the update system recently?
[03:12] <cesar_> me
[03:12] <cesar_> and all works fine
[03:12] <xml-blog> JStrike, thundr, one last q: my machine at work is also running ubuntu and it's a dual processor P4 Xeon  --- would a different kernel (or any other really obvious tweak) make a difference there?
[03:13] <spanglesontoast> guess no one cares
[03:13] <cesar_> i have 1 computer with ubuntu and 3 more with Windows . . . and all works fine :P
[03:13] <JStrike> spanglesontoast : Sorry, dont know anything about ATI other than their drivers are supposed to be terrible
[03:13] <spanglesontoast> - one other reason to go back to fedora.........
[03:14] <spanglesontoast> ah oks
[03:14] <cesar_> could be some problem with your router :P , i cant figure anything else
[03:14] <CrazyNorman> k
[03:14] <nalioth> xml-blog: would think a smp kernel would really help only with heavy loading
[03:14] <xml-blog> nalioth, or deamons
[03:15] <nalioth> xml-blog: heavy lift daemons?
[03:15] <arentie> Is there anyone available to help me install my WLAN card?
[03:15] <hardcampa-> ehm what? An smp kernel always helps if you got dual or more
[03:15] <cesar_> spanglesontoast: probably you will have the same problems with Fedora , i recently change to Ubuntu and i cannot complain ;)
[03:15] <xml-blog> nalioth, I run apache for development at work I would imagine it could perform better with an SMP kernel
[03:16] <nalioth> xml-blog: yes, sure it will help
[03:16] <hardcampa-> xml-blog. Of-course. A server running smp is way better to handle loads and fast incoming connections than any single cpu machine
[03:16] <Jormundgand> Fedora has some nice advantages over Ubuntu but the advantages of Ubuntu outweigh the disadvantages.
[03:16] <JStrike> spanglesontoast : Maybe run dpkg-reconfigure on your sxerver, and then make the neccesary changes to get it to work with fglrx
[03:17] <Jormundgand> Example: I had immense difficulty setting up Samba on Fedora - a breeze under Ubuntu.
[03:17] <spanglesontoast> so it's just dpkg-reconfigure
[03:17] <spanglesontoast> into the terminal?
[03:17] <thundrcleeze> xml-blog, seriously, it only takes a second to install the kernel, and you're not overwriting the old one.
[03:17] <cesar_> spanglesontoast: you tried asking uncle google about your problem , it could be some text about it
[03:18] <DekaPink> Well, that totally didn't work out well.
[03:19] <abarbaccia> hey all - hows it going
[03:19] <spanglesontoast> jstrike what command is it to do that what you said
[03:19] <xml-blog> nalioth, hardcampa, JStrike, thundrcleeze: thanks. really. the community makes ubuntu great. I think I may try the 686 although I've been disabused of my great expectations. seems like a quick apt-get can't hurt much. :) goodnight
[03:19] <nalioth> xml-blog: i've always run smp kernel in my dually machines, but unless you are runnin major operations, ya won't see much diff
[03:20] <DekaPink> I just tried to install ubuntu on a partition... and then it said something about copying to the drive failing, and then I couldn't get back on my Windows. :3
[03:20] <iceman2K> Anyone able to help me install openmosix ... ? please
[03:20] <xml-blog> nalioth, thanks. it's not like it's slow or anything I just like to get as much as I can out of my boxes which is why I chose linux over windows in the first place.
[03:20] <JStrike> spanglesontoast : Not sure what the hoary command would be, but on breezy it is"dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[03:20] <leo_> Does anyone know how to, uh...
[03:21] <Crono57888> Enable
[03:21] <Crono57888> Sound via the soundcore?
[03:21] <Crono57888> I have no idea what that means
[03:21] <DvChWi> Hi. I'm getting a Del 700m in a few days and am considering installing Ubuntu.  However, reading around on the forums seems to indicate that the install has issues on this model.  Whats the latest?
[03:22] <JStrike> spanglesontoast : Have you followed the instructions on http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto and at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3567
[03:22] <iceman2K> shoot how to install openmosix on ubuntu ...
[03:23] <spanglesontoast> not the forum post
[03:23] <spanglesontoast> I'll brb
[03:23] <JStrike> spanglesontoast : Did the dpk-reconfigure help?
[03:23] <Crono57888> Anyone know how to do this?
[03:23] <Crono57888> Turn on sound support (soundcore module, default turn on)
[03:24] <qqq_> Hya, I have a .deb file which has some dependancies.. it's in debian packages list, can I automatically install it's dependancies in ubuntu
[03:24] <bluefoxicy> any ideas why OOo2 crashes in breezy when touching menus?
[03:24] <cesar_> gtg , cya to everyone !
[03:24] <spanglesontoast> well still playing with it
[03:24] <cesar_> bluefoxicy: seems that breezy has a lot of problems :P
[03:24] <JStrike> bluefoxicy : Look at the topic
[03:24] <spanglesontoast> ok done
[03:24] <spanglesontoast> brb
[03:24] <jedik> hi
[03:25] <DNA`> so why ubuntu grew to become very famous?:D
[03:25] <bluefoxicy> JStrike:  no help
[03:25] <[freebsd> i dunno.. its nothing too special
[03:25] <[freebsd> i just use kubuntu cuz its debian + 3.4 kde
[03:25] <JStrike> bluefoxicy : ?
[03:25] <jedik> dna.. dunno i downloaded it when someone suggested it to someone else on hardforum's
[03:25] <bluefoxicy> JStrike:  it doesn't explain the issue to me
[03:25] <DNA`> [freebsd and you dont use freebsd?;)
[03:25] <StR> DNA`: because  they send you original CDs...
[03:25] <JStrike> bluefoxicy : You shouldn't be using breezy
[03:26] <bluefoxicy> JStrike:  i know that.
[03:26] <bluefoxicy> only breezy has nvu though  :P
[03:26] <DNA`> StR too bad i downloaded it ;D
[03:26] <bluefoxicy> JStrike:  and I needed the 2.6.12 kernels too
[03:26] <DNA`> maybe its famous because ubuntu is for humans :P
[03:26] <JStrike> DNA` : It's a distro that follows Gnome very closely in philosophy
[03:26] <bluefoxicy> (the 2.6.10 ubuntu ones freeze about as much as Win98 under load)
[03:27] <StR> DNA`: LOL.... it's ok if you don't want to wait for the CDs to arrive
[03:27] <bluefoxicy> JStrike:  and I wound up doing a lotta updates :P
[03:27] <DNA`> JStrike yeah i noticed, and i love gnome more than anything in its domain ;] 
[03:27] <[freebsd> k so i cant log in again.
[03:27] <[freebsd> bad?
[03:27] <bluefoxicy> and before I knew it I had full breezy
[03:27] <JStrike> bluefoxicy : Well, then you are in trouble until it stabilizes
[03:27] <bluefoxicy> JStrike:  reinstall huh?
[03:27] <spanglesontoast> well it changed my driver
[03:28] <bluefoxicy> (I have a separate /home so I can reinstall daily without detriment)
[03:28] <spanglesontoast> but still my res I cannot change
[03:28] <JStrike> bluefoxicy : Yep
[03:28] <DvChWi> Hi. I'm getting a Del 700m in a few days and am considering installing Ubuntu.  However, reading around on the forums seems to indicate that the install has issues on this model.  Whats the latest?
[03:28] <JStrike> spanglesontoast : Did you choose the fglrx driver during the reconfigure?
[03:29] <JStrike> spanglesontoast : I had the same issue with my nvidia card at some point. I am trying to remember what I did
[03:29] <spanglesontoast> yea
[03:29] <bluefoxicy> JStrike:  I'll try installing the newer abiword devs
[03:30] <bluefoxicy> damnit
[03:30] <JStrike> spanglesontoast : Have you had a look the forum I link to?
[03:30] <bluefoxicy> no autopackage
[03:30] <JStrike> autopackage is nice
[03:31] <spanglesontoast> yea
[03:31] <spanglesontoast> fglrxconfig is nothing to do with xorg
[03:32] <lotusleaf> ubuntu <3
[03:33] <JStrike> spanglesontoast : Look in /var/log/Xorg.log or something similar and see if it mentions any problems
[03:33] <raDeon> <3
[03:33] <JStrike> Maybe an out of range error
[03:33] <entropy> anyone know why http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports is down? is there a mirror i can use?
[03:34] <JStrike> spanglesontoast : I remember what the issue was with mine. My monitor settings were wrong
[03:34] <tidalwav1> hi room...is there a way to easily upgrade to the latest version of Firefox, rather than use the ubuntu repository's outdated 1.0.2?
[03:34] <spanglesontoast> don't think theres any problem with it
[03:35] <tidalwav1> guess no one knows. :P I'll try later.
[03:35] <bluefoxicy> ARGH
[03:35] <JStrike> spanglesontoast : Your horizontal and vertical refresh rates are wrong I think
[03:35] <bluefoxicy> how do I get autopackage
[03:35] <bluefoxicy> help me
[03:35] <lotusleaf> tidalwav1 you could download the tar from mozilla's site but if you remove mozilla/firefox from synaptic you lose yelp
[03:35] <JStrike> spanglesontoast : What sort of monitor do you have?
[03:35] <tidalwav1> ...yelp?
[03:35] <lotusleaf> tidalwav1 yupm yelp
[03:35] <spanglesontoast> gateway vx700
[03:35] <NicP> tidalwav1: are u sure you have an outdated version?
[03:35] <JStrike> bluefoxicy : What do you mean?
[03:36] <bluefoxicy> JStrike:  autopackage
[03:36] <bluefoxicy> http://autopackage.org  -->  http://www.abisource.com/download/development.phtml
[03:36] <tidalwav1> 1.0.2 is outdated. the latest is 1.0.4. I just ran apt-get upgrade, and have universe and multiverse enabled in the apt list. Still 1.0.2.
[03:36] <NicP> you can get 1.0.4 off backports
[03:36] <lotusleaf> tidalwav1 just download it from mozilla's site and install it yourself it's easy
[03:36] <NicP> but use that at your own risk
[03:36] <tidalwav1> it won't mess with ubuntu's settings? or something like that
[03:37] <JStrike> bluefoxicy : What is wrong with 1.0.2?
[03:37] <entropy> security holes
[03:37] <lotusleaf> tidalwav1 as I said, you can download 1.0.4 from Mozilla's site and use it just fine, but if you remove mozilla/firefox from synaptic it will want to remove yelp too
[03:37] <tidalwav1> okay.
[03:37] <tidalwav1> thanks for your input.
[03:37] <bluefoxicy> JStrike:  ?
[03:37] <lotusleaf> tidalwav1 yw
[03:37] <bluefoxicy> JStrike:  1.0.2 of what?
[03:37] <useruseruser> what's the easiest way to install mplayer?
[03:38] <lok> there is a way to have extension with ubuntu's firefox
[03:38] <bluefoxicy> JStrike:  searching for autopackage in synaptic returns null.
[03:38] <JStrike> bluefoxicy : I was looking at the wrong post
[03:38] <_Church_Of_Foamy> anyone know if you can replace the palm os with a linux os on the palm m130?
[03:38] <_Church_Of_Foamy> <----has linux on ipod
[03:38] <JStrike> bluefoxicy : Download the autopackage from the abiword site
[03:39] <bluefoxicy> JStrike:  and then what?  there's no autopackage in ubuntu is there?
[03:39] <lok> go in your about:config and change the value for the general.useragent.vendorSub to 1.0.4
[03:39] <JStrike> bluefoxicy : No, why should there be
[03:40] <spanglesontoast> gateway vx700
[03:40] <spanglesontoast> ?
[03:40] <cralost> :D
[03:40] <useruseruser> mplayer, anyone? is my best best to compile it myself?
[03:40] <david_> what up
[03:40] <bluefoxicy> JStrike:  because the current abiword in breezy is 2.2.7 and 2.3.0 handles OASIS/OpenDocument
[03:40] <cralost> hi everyone
[03:40] <JStrike> bluefoxicy : Enable it as an executable, and then run sudo abiword-2.3.0.x86.package
[03:40] <danko123456> hello,//
[03:40] <lok> useruseruser, to have win32 codecs ?
[03:40] <danko123456> I just screwed up that computer Ive been trying to fix....
[03:40] <bluefoxicy> JStrike:  oh, it doesn't need a program to do it?
[03:40] <useruseruser> lok: well, to have mplayer installed is my first target
[03:41] <entropy> i just did this http://ubuntuguide.org/#mplayer
[03:41] <JStrike> bluefoxicy : No
[03:41] <useruseruser> entropy: thanks, i'll take a look
[03:41] <lok> useruseruser, then juste apt-get install mplayer or use synaptics
[03:41] <spanglesontoast> you muppet autopackage
[03:42] <spanglesontoast> is inside the program
[03:42] <JStrike> bluefoxicy : Nice, isn't it
[03:42] <bluefoxicy> JStrike:  oh, wow.  Heh :)
[03:42] <JStrike> ?
[03:42] <bluefoxicy> root password.  :/
[03:43] <useruseruser> lok: yeah, i didn't realise it was in ubuntu (i'm used to debian) :)
[03:43] <useruseruser> lok: although w32codecs has no installation candidate :(
[03:43] <nalioth> useruseruser: are you on an x86 machine?
[03:43] <useruseruser> nalioth: yes
[03:43] <cralost> totem-xine works fine
[03:43] <cralost> divx5
[03:43] <cralost> etc
[03:43] <bluefoxicy> amazing
[03:44] <nalioth> useruseruser: and the apt-get path doesnt lead you to mplayer nirvana?
[03:44] <david_> linux is so different from windows
[03:44] <spanglesontoast> jeez
[03:44] <spanglesontoast> autopackage is a winner
[03:44] <useruseruser> nalioth: apt-get path?
[03:44] <raDeon> david_, and you're ugly.
[03:44] <raDeon> oh, i'm sorry, i thought we were having a state-the-obvious contest
[03:44] <useruseruser> nalioth: i ran apt-get install a-bucket-load-of-packages w32codecs libdvdcss and it said it couldn't install the last two
[03:44] <DNA`> no i am the only ugly person
[03:44] <spanglesontoast> open transport tycoon
[03:44] <spanglesontoast> I played that years ago
[03:44] <raDeon> DNA`, you are one of them, but not the only one
[03:45] <dr_willis> david_,   and thats a good thing.
[03:45] <dimeo> anyone know how to send inline images in email with Kmail?
[03:45] <raDeon> link for open transport tycoon please
[03:46] <danko123456> no empathy for my poor computer??
[03:46] <cralost> !
[03:46] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, cralost
[03:46] <raDeon> link for open transport tycoon please
[03:46] <raDeon> link for open transport tycoon please
[03:46] <raDeon> link for open transport tycoon please
[03:46] <DNA`> raDeon i'm the ugliest then, is perl in ubuntu or i should apt-get it?
[03:46] <nalioth> useruseruser: have you upgraded your repositorys?
[03:46] <spanglesontoast> hang on
[03:46] <spanglesontoast> http://www.familie-kirchhofer.de/openttd/autopackage/
[03:46] <useruseruser> nalioth: yeah
[03:46] <raDeon> DNA`, yes
[03:46] <spanglesontoast> I love this
[03:46] <bluefoxicy> wow, I like that heh.
[03:46] <useruseruser> nalioth: also, now that mplayer is installed, it says "Illegal instruction" whenever I run mplayer somefile.mp3 :((((
[03:46] <spanglesontoast> by the way eventally getting my mum to use linux
[03:46] <DNA`> :}
[03:47] <bluefoxicy> JStrike: that's quite possibly the best thing ever.
[03:47] <bluefoxicy> JStrike:  now if only I could write an autopackage for doom3 ;)
[03:47] <bluefoxicy> and give it to ID
[03:47] <useruseruser> nalioth: in fact, it says Illegal instruction if I just run mplayer with no options
[03:47] <DNA`> its illegal because you stole those mp3s
[03:48] <useruseruser> DNA`: no, i think it's illegal because i have an ancient cpu
[03:48] <lok> useruseruser, mplayer print the help if you just tipe mplayer
[03:48] <spanglesontoast> or you could convert them into ogg
[03:48] <spanglesontoast> :D
[03:48] <useruseruser> lok: not for me.
[03:48] <lok> to have a GUI type gmplayer
[03:48] <DNA`> :)
[03:48] <lok> spanglesontoast, do not convert mp3 to ogg
[03:49] <spanglesontoast> why not?
[03:49] <useruseruser> lok: my cpu lacks mmx2 and sse2, which the ubuntu mplayer appears to require :(
[03:49] <ghpolo> someone uses serial port to dump kernel info to another computer ?
[03:49] <Blackhrt> :s
[03:49] <lok> insteed your mp3 are at a hight rate of quality
[03:49] <danko123456> no empathy for my poor broken computer?
[03:49] <spanglesontoast> surely theres a loop hole
[03:49] <spanglesontoast> in the law
[03:49] <lok> useruseruser, try to compile it then
[03:50] <useruseruser> lok: guess so
[03:50] <nalioth> useruseruser: then by all means, compile it by hand
[03:50] <lok> spanglesontoast, when you convert a mp3 in ogg you lose quality
[03:50] <spanglesontoast> so
[03:50] <spanglesontoast> anyways
[03:50] <spanglesontoast> I'll brb
[03:50] <nalioth> useruseruser: make sure you use the ./configure --help thang, so you can see all the nicetys that are available
[03:50] <lok> if your mp3 is not a high quality one
[03:51] <lok> then keeping mp3 encoding is more advised
[03:51] <timelyx> nalioth: do you have some time?
[03:51] <spanglesontoast> lok I thought thr project got rid of sounds that humans cannot hear
[03:51] <^thehatsrule^> gah, :/
[03:51] <lok> not exactly
[03:52] <spanglesontoast> ok brb
[03:52] <nalioth> timelyx: time for what?
[03:53] <iceman2K> can anyone help me install open mosix on my ubuntu system
[03:55] <dimeo> whats mosix?
[03:55] <timelyx> nalioth: i'm looking for a list of all changes ubuntu did not make for it's "firefox1.0.2" when it backported firefox1.0.4
[03:55] <spanglesontoast> ok well that did something
[03:55] <spanglesontoast> j
[03:55] <timelyx> dimeo: google says grid computing...
[03:56] <nalioth> timelyx: sorry, i don't use firefox
[03:57] <dimeo> ooh sounds uber powerful... almost as good as quantum
[03:57] <bluefoxicy> ## END OF STUB
[03:57] <bluefoxicy> ^_^@\uffffC\uffffB^@^
[03:57] <useruseruser> timelyx: guess you want to look at the changelog
[03:57] <timelyx> nalioth: but you use ubuntu, right?
[03:57] <bluefoxicy> from the abiword 2.3 autopackage
[03:57] <timelyx> useruseruser: url?
[03:58] <nalioth> timelyx: timelyx yes, i use galeon (no flames, please)
[03:58] <lok> timelyx, and how you look at that ?
[03:58] <dr_willis> bluefoxicy,  --->  Our latest development release is version 2.3.0. Development releases are aimed at developers, or people willing to test unstable software.
[03:58] <timelyx> lok: at what? curl url
[03:58] <dr_willis> bluefoxicy,  :P peraps stick to the older/stable?
[03:58] <timelyx> nalioth: your browser choice is up to you
[03:58] <useruseruser> timelyx: download the package, unpack and it should be somewhere in the deb. at least it's like that in debian
[03:58] <bluefoxicy> dr_willis:  abiword often doesn't display things with images so great
[03:59] <timelyx> useruseruser: i'd like to avoid doing that if at all possible
[03:59] <useruseruser> timelyx: debian packages also have changelogs on the web - dunno about ubuntu
[03:59] <nalioth> timelyx: not sure where the devs keep their lists of what they use and what they don't
[03:59] <bluefoxicy> dr_willis: while OOo typically drops most if not all images from word and RTF docs; butchers what images are left; drops headers and footers from both; and doesn't handle any styles or formatting properly and instead displays basically a text document
[03:59] <useruseruser> timelyx: you don't have to install it - you could download the deb and look instide
[03:59] <useruseruser> *inside
[03:59] <timelyx> useruseruser: i don't have apt handy
[03:59] <lok> useruseruser, the changelog may juste list the patch applied but not what they do
[03:59] <bluefoxicy> dr_willis: RTF and DOC are the only 2 formats Abi and OOo share.
[03:59] <nalioth> timelyx: you don't need apt
[03:59] <timelyx> nalioth: ok, does pax work?
[03:59] <bluefoxicy> dr_willis:  Abi2.3 has preliminary support for OpenDocument, but it seems to freeze it.
[04:00] <nalioth> pax?
[04:00] <nalioth> timelyx: pax?
[04:00] <PupenoK> What's the standard way to get Micro$oft fonts on Ubuntu (I need Comic Sans) ?
[04:00] <nalioth> timelyx: debs are openable with rar, zip, 7z, other
[04:00] <timelyx> DESCRIPTION
[04:00] <timelyx>      Pax will read, write, and list the members of an archive file, and will
[04:00] <timelyx>      copy directory hierarchies.
[04:00] <nalioth> PupenoK: search using synaptic for mscorefonts or somehting like that
[04:01] <timelyx> ok, so, it's a zip, is there a way for me to find the http url for this zip?
[04:01] <danko123456> archives.ubuntulinux.org
[04:01] <danko123456> nope wrong
[04:02] <danko123456> http://archive.ubuntu.com/
[04:02] <timelyx> a direct url would be appreciated
[04:02] <danko123456> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mozilla-firefox/
[04:02] <timelyx> there are hundreds of distros out there, and it sucks that i'm expected to fish through each of them to fiind out which changes they've made
[04:02] <timelyx> thanks :)
[04:02] <danko123456> welcome.
[04:03] <timelyx> Safari cant open the page http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mozilla-firefox/ because it could not connect to the server archive.ubuntu.com.
[04:03] <danko123456> why are you expected that?
[04:03] <danko123456> remove the ?
[04:03] <danko123456> :)
[04:03] <timelyx> what ?
[04:03] <dsd> How can I restore my Xorg.conf file? I ruined it and now I cant start Ubuntu, what is the command to restore the file so i can start the graphical version of ubuntu
[04:03] <dsd> any help would be apperciated thanks
[04:03] <lok> timelyx, I don't uderstand what you want to know about this package ?
[04:04] <dr_willis> archive.ubuntu.com   --- i see some funky chars at the end. :P
[04:04] <danko123456> why safari, anyhow.
[04:04] <timelyx> Dr_Melectaus: those are fancy quotes
[04:04] <PupenoK> nalioth: thanks.
[04:04] <danko123456> dsd: dpkg --reconfigure xorg something, anyone know?
[04:04] <dr_willis> heh - they look like a suberscript 2 and 3 to me.
[04:04] <timelyx> lok: i want to know what changes between mozilla.org firefox1.0.2 and mozilla.org firefox1.0.4 are not in ubunutu's current "firefox1.0.2" package
[04:05] <lok> yes but why ?
[04:06] <timelyx> because i'm a mozilla developer and want to know what things your package maintainers think were *not* security related
[04:07] <dsd> danko, what was the command?
[04:08] <danko123456> just a sec, I am working on it...
[04:08] <newbbie> hi all
[04:08] <danko123456> hey
[04:09] <dsd> thanks danko
[04:09] <danko123456> yup...no luck so far, Im getting there, tho.
[04:10] <Predius> danko123456, what's the problem?
[04:10] <m4lc0m> can anyone help me with this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=193338#post193338
[04:10] <Burgundavia> timelyx, you need to speak with thom
[04:10] <Burgundavia> timelyx, he does ff for Ubuntu, but he is currently on vacation today
[04:11] <danko123456> Predius: what was the command for reconfiguring X?
[04:11] <dsd1> hey danko, i got disconnected did u say anything while i was reconnecting
[04:11] <danko123456> dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:11] <danko123456> man
[04:11] <danko123456> not that.
[04:12] <spanglesontoast> nothing JStrike
[04:12] <spanglesontoast> won't load it up
[04:12] <danko123456> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:12] <danko123456> is it, dsd
[04:12] <spanglesontoast> says it's unsupported
[04:12] <dsd1> whats it danko?
[04:12] <danko123456> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:12] <dsd1> thats it?
[04:13] <danko123456> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg yes, taht will guide you throguh the setup, not sure if that is exactly what you need, but yes, that is what I think you should do.
[04:13] <dsd1> this is what i found in a forum : u got any error (u cannot go in graphical mode) dont worry couse gedit always creates a backup of edited files (in this case xorg.conf~) so restart pc, in grub select recovery mode, when finished loading type "cp /etc....../xorg.conf~ /etc..../xorg.conf" and restart
[04:13] <dsd1> i dont exactly get what that command is
[04:13] <danko123456> do you have that file there, tho?
[04:13] <dsd1> yes i do
[04:13] <dsd1> i have the conf~ file also
[04:13] <danko123456> ls /etc/X11
[04:14] <danko123456> well, then thats easy.
[04:14] <Predius> guys, what do yoy generally recomend for mail servers?
[04:14] <dsd1> this person replied with this I ended up teaching myself the "mv" command, and the rename didn't wanna work for me. ex. "mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf~ /etc/X11/xorg.conf" Hey, it worked, and that's why matters. lol. God It's a pain learning this new command line for when I screw up. lmao.
[04:14] <newbbie> an anyone help me? I don't know if this is a bug in synaptic or if I am defently just a moron when it relates to GNU/Linux (I'm a new user)... I can't install a .deb package from my cd-rom... synaptic says it doesn't find any packages in the cdrom (which has one)...
[04:15] <danko123456> dsd1: nice:)
[04:15] <Predius> Did you write a CD with a package?
[04:15] <Predius> or is it an install package?
[04:15] <Predius> *cd
[04:15] <dsd1> so just to make sure...do i just type in "mv /etc/x11/xorg.conf~" and im done?
[04:15] <newbbie> I wrote a CDRW with the package file
[04:16] <Predius> newbbie, #mount /cdrom
[04:16] <danko123456> dsd1: mv needs two parameters.
[04:16] <nalioth> newbbie: the pkg on your cdrom is probably older than what is already on your system
[04:16] <Predius> then go into /cdrom
[04:16] <danko123456> mv source destination
[04:16] <Predius> dpkg -i xxxx.deb
[04:16] <Predius> Whatever the name of the deb is.
[04:16] <danko123456> mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf~ /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:16] <Predius> nalioth, it's not an install CD.
[04:17] <dsd1> danko, so would it be mv /etc/x11/xorg.conf~ /etc/x11/xorg.conf?
[04:17] <dsd1> ah yes ok good :-)
[04:17] <Predius> I've always wondered why rename never worsk.
[04:17] <danko123456> that is what you need, but...I mean, that will get you the the one in /etc/x11/xorg.conf~ so make sure that is the one you want, you can view/edit it first.
[04:17] <danko123456> Predius: come on...
[04:17] <newbbie> just checking... do I have to include ".deb" after the package name?
[04:17] <dsd1> danko, how would i view/edit it first without having the graphical interface
[04:18] <Predius> =D
[04:18] <danko123456> yeah, use tab completion, newbbie, start typing, hit tab
[04:18] <dsd1> i cant get into ubuntu because of my xorg.conf file is breaking my boot process
[04:18] <newbbie> ah, ok...
[04:18] <danko123456> dsd1: there are command line editors, nano, pico, vi emacs?
[04:18] <danko123456> ...
[04:18] <dsd1> im sorry im a complete newb to that how would i use it
[04:18] <newbbie> thank you Predius and danko... I'll try that then...
[04:19] <danko123456> but, also, displaying a file works with cat /etc/x11/xorg.conf~ | more
[04:19] <danko123456> that is maybe what you should do....
[04:19] <danko123456> cat displays supplied file, and more lets you read it page by page/line by line.
[04:19] <danko123456> so view the file, and somehow make sure it is the right one...
[04:19] <danko123456> well, it cant be worse...
[04:20] <danko123456> newbbie: welcome.
[04:20] <dsd1> ok so first, i should check the conf~ version to see if it is the correct file i want to load up, then i do the MV command and voila it should load ubuntu correctly?
[04:20] <danko123456> dsd1: no need to be sorry, I didnt know it 25 years ago neither...jj, im 22.
[04:20] <dimeo> is there any way to verify that both my usb ports are active in ubuntu?
[04:20] <danko123456> have a usb mouse?
[04:20] <truz24> are there any mathematica clones ?
[04:20] <dimeo> my USB printer isn't being detected it's an hp photosmart
[04:21] <danko123456> http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html
[04:21] <danko123456> search for mathematica
[04:21] <danko123456> everyone, bookmark that site, nice site....
[04:21] <dr_willis> dimeo,  it a scanner/printer?
[04:21] <maxy_noob> is there a quicktime version or codec equivalent of quicktime I can install?
[04:21] <dimeo> it's a p1000 photosmart printer
[04:21] <danko123456> maxy_noob: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[04:22] <dsd1> ok danko, thanks a million i hope this works :-/
[04:22] <danko123456> we need a bot again, I believe.
[04:22] <dimeo> under the properties it says printer not connected
[04:22] <danko123456> I hope so too, so thats too.
[04:22] <danko123456> let me tell you a short story tho...
[04:22] <Predius> dimeo, lsusb
[04:22] <maxy_noob> danko123456, thanks!
[04:22] <dsd1> sure
[04:22] <dimeo> will try
[04:22] <Predius> #lsusb
[04:22] <Predius> as root, that is
[04:22] <dr_willis> dimeo,  some of the complex hp printers need that hpog (or somthing like that) service to be seen right.  about all i know aobut the, :O  cant help much more
[04:23] <dr_willis> hploj ? hplj. I forget. :(
[04:23] <dimeo> lsusb gives me  Bus 002 Device 010: ID 046d:c00e Logitech, Inc. Optical Mouse
[04:23] <dimeo> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[04:23] <dimeo> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[04:23] <danko123456> I am fixing this older hp computer for a girl...and, it has 64 megs of ram...and I buy 128 more to boost the performance,...and I break one of the RRAM slots while installing it, but I manage to get the 128 in there....so..... I boot up, and nothing is any faster:)
[04:23] <dsd1> lmao hahahahah
[04:24] <danko123456> so, that will make you feel better even if your attempt fails a little
[04:24] <dimeo> wait wiggle wiggle:  Bus 002 Device 010: ID 046d:c00e Logitech, Inc. Optical Mouse
[04:24] <dimeo> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[04:24] <dimeo> Bus 001 Device 005: ID 03f0:3002 Hewlett-Packard
[04:24] <dimeo> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[04:24] <dimeo> ok so it sees the printer there
[04:24] <danko123456> funky hp case, man, it is packed in there...
[04:24] <danko123456> http://207.161.57.251/comp/
[04:24] <dsd1> lol
[04:24] <Predius> you should try googling the model for linux
[04:24] <Predius> i don't print, =D
[04:25] <maxy_noob> everytime I try to update my repository I get the following error message: The repository might be no longer available or could not be contacted because of network problems. If available an older version of the failed index will be used. Otherwise the repository will be ignored. Check your network connection and the correct writing of the repository address in the preferences.
[04:25] <dsd1> alright danko...ill be back if something goes wrong :-) take care thanks alot i apperciate it bro
[04:25] <maxy_noob> I get this even when synaptic says my repository is out of date
[04:25] <danko123456> maxy_noob: do a cat /etc/apt/sources.list and paste it to http://pastebin.com please
[04:25] <danko123456> dsd1: thanks, see ya.
[04:25] <tron_> hello
[04:26] <danko123456> tron_: hi!
[04:26] <tron_> how configure my keyboard?
[04:26] <xyzx> Hey guys is there a tutorial about virtual hosting with ubuntu?
[04:26] <danko123456> tron_: more info, please.
[04:26] <dimeo> predius, any suggestions?
[04:26] <maxy_noob> danko123456, ok ... and thanks
[04:26] <tron_> danko
[04:26] <Predius> #apache, xyzx
[04:26] <tron_> my english is very bad
[04:26] <danko123456> ok, then post the URL here, and I will give yuou advice
[04:26] <tron_> my problem is
[04:26] <Predius> spanish? french? italian?
[04:27] <tron_> no special caracters in my keyboard
[04:27] <danko123456> tron_:  I see...but, you can try, if you want to...
[04:27] <tron_> i need configure my keypad
[04:27] <danko123456> System>Preferences>Keyboard, or equivalent in your language
[04:27] <Predius> what's the model of the printer dimeo?
[04:27] <lampshade> RAH
[04:27] <tron_> one moment danko
[04:28] <lampshade> How is everyone?
[04:28] <danko123456> I think he is chinese, right? in asia anyhow I think by the IP.
[04:28] <maxy_noob> danko123456, done
[04:28] <danko123456> I am fine, I screwd up a computer a little earlier, thanks for asking
[04:28] <danko123456> ok, then post the URL here, and I will give yuou advice
[04:28] <tron_> negative danko12345
[04:28] <lampshade> danko123456:  It happens
[04:28] <danko123456> maxy_noob: ^
[04:28] <danko123456> lampshade: sure did:)
[04:28] <maxy_noob> danko123456, yes?
[04:29] <danko123456> welcome back, chameleon...
[04:29] <danko123456> maxy_noob: ok, then post the URL here, and I will give yuou advice
[04:29] <tron_> i can no configure in preferences
[04:29] <maxy_noob> I posted it on pastebin
[04:29] <[Chameleon] > danko123456: thanks
[04:29] <danko123456> well, sure, turn it off:)
[04:29] <tron_> i speak spanish
[04:29] <dimeo> device manager detects it.  It's an HP  p1000 printer.
[04:29] <tron_> the problem
[04:30] <dimeo> The status under properties says : printing: Printer not connected; will retry in 30 seconds..
[04:30] <tron_> dificult to me change to spanish ubuntu chat
[04:30] <danko123456> tron, can you post a screenshot of your screen somewhere?
[04:30] <maxy_noob> danko123456, you don't see it?
[04:30] <danko123456> give me hte URL, I need that to see it.
[04:30] <tron_> one moment
[04:31] <kvidell> christ al lmighty
[04:31] <danko123456> ok
[04:31] <danko123456> whats up, kvidell?
[04:31] <kvidell> GOOG closed at $266 today (+$11)
[04:31] <danko123456> well...whatever...:)
[04:31] <maxy_noob> danko123456, I posted the thing you asked me to do on pastebin.com
[04:31] <Nula> anyone here uses webDAV + Subversion + Apache2 with Ubuntu 5.04??
[04:31] <Predius> i speak spanish
[04:31] <Nula> I think the libapache2-svn is broken
[04:31] <danko123456> yes, I kno, I need the url for it, maxy_noob.
[04:31] <tron_> predius
[04:31] <Predius> tron, que teclado?
[04:32] <tron_> no me salen algunos caracteres
[04:32] <danko123456> he needs to set up spanish characters on his keyboard, I think...
[04:32] <Nula> and it seems to me this bug is a bug that happily came from the debian package maintainers error to Ubuntu
[04:32] <Predius> cuales?
[04:32] <maxy_noob> Oh, I posted as maxynoob, but whatever. Here's the url: http://pastebin.com/292463
[04:32] <tron_> signo de numero y arroba
[04:32] <tron_> entre otros
[04:32] <danko123456> tron_: maybe this helps, too: http://www.guia-ubuntu.org/hoary/doku.php
[04:33] <Predius> ./join #ubuntu-es
[04:33] <danko123456> I need the URL, tho, I cant search...:)
[04:33] <tron_> ok danko thank's
[04:33] <danko123456> welcome:)
[04:33] <maxy_noob> danko123456, http://pastebin.com/292463
[04:33] <tron_> predius
[04:33] <danko123456> maxy_noob: hey, check this out...
[04:33] <tron_> this is the problem
[04:33] <tron_> no change to ubuntu spanish
[04:33] <danko123456> canada, eh? Im in winnipeg:)
[04:34] <tron_> no caracter special in my keyboard
[04:34] <tron_> no possible to me
[04:34] <Crono57888> Does anyone know how to turn on sound support?
[04:34] <maxy_noob> danko123456, check what out?
[04:34] <danko123456> http://www.guia-ubuntu.org/hoary/doku.php?id=espanolizar_ubuntu#como_traducir_hoary this page has some instructions, Predius, right?
[04:34] <tron_> change chat channel
[04:34] <danko123456> maxy_noob: its coming...
[04:34] <maxy_noob> oh
[04:34] <Crono57888> Or get into the soundcore module or something?
[04:35] <tron_> oh oh
[04:35] <danko123456> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and then replace everything in there with what is on this page: www.mts.net/~danb/sources.list then save, close, and sudo apt-get update
[04:36] <nalioth> danko123456: you da man!
[04:36] <danko123456> nalioth: I try, not too bad...I guess, I broke a RAM slot earlier tho...
[04:36] <maxy_noob> danko123456, was that last one for me?
[04:36] <danko123456> yeah, sorry
[04:36] <maxy_noob> k, thanks!
[04:36] <danko123456> k, should work.
[04:36] <danko123456> you have the backports, you dont need those...
[04:37] <tron_> ok boys
[04:37] <tron_> thank's
[04:37] <tron_> greetings
[04:37] <maxy_noob> danko123456, replace everything?
[04:37] <danko123456> yeah, I would that is my sources.list
[04:37] <maxy_noob> cool, thanks
[04:37] <danko123456> tron_: ttyl!
[04:38] <dimeo> gonna try a reboto
[04:38] <dimeo> reboot
[04:38] <danko123456> reboto is cool too...
[04:38] <Crono57888> What is soundcore?
[04:38] <anathema> can anyone thing of an idea i'd be getting this error:  ./simpserver: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:38] <maxy_noob> danko123456, cool! What did it do?
[04:38] <anathema> what file does it need
[04:38] <maxy_noob> :D
[04:39] <danko123456> you made your repositories have all the possible official ubuntu repositories...
[04:39] <anathema> me?
[04:39] <johnnybezak> hey guys
[04:39] <maxy_noob> cool
[04:39] <anathema> anyone know about that error?
[04:39] <Crono57888> Anybody? Soundcore?
[04:39] <J35U5> sup johnnybezak
[04:39] <danko123456> anathema: did you install sudo apt-get install build-essential ....time, please:)
[04:39] <maxy_noob> would something equivalent to quicktime be in there?
[04:39] <anathema> yes danko123456
[04:40] <danko123456> you sure? sounds like that is the error, try again...:)
[04:40] <anathema> im 100000% sure build-essential is installed
[04:40] <danko123456> maxy_noob: I told you the URL for that, www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[04:40] <danko123456> ok...
[04:40] <Crono57888> Please? Anybody? What is soundcore, how do I enable sound support...?
[04:40] <maxy_noob> danko123456, sorry
[04:40] <danko123456> thats fine.
[04:41] <danko123456> anathema: whats this simpserver anyhow, apt-gettable?
[04:41] <Predius> Guys, do any of you have experience on running mail servers?
[04:41] <maxy_noob> (y)
[04:41] <anathema> danko123456, this error happens when i try to run a command, im not trying to compile anythign
[04:41] <anathema> no, unfortunatly
[04:41] <danko123456> Crono57888: sound doesnt work? more info?
[04:41] <maxy_noob> danko123456, thanks man. I'll check it out
[04:41] <danko123456> k, welcome
[04:41] <johnnybezak> will there be a hula package in breezy?
[04:41] <JDahl_> anathema, what is simpserver, and how did you install it?
[04:41] <johnnybezak> wheres the roadmap?
[04:41] <anathema> dont need to 'install
[04:41] <anathema> '
[04:41] <Crono57888> danko123456,  yes, I'm trying to install sound drivers for my Alizea chipset
[04:42] <Crono57888> The 1st instruction is
[04:42] <anathema> its just a binary you download..and its an encryption proxy for msn/aim
[04:42] <anathema> etc
[04:42] <Crono57888> Turn on sound support (soundcore module, default turn on)
[04:42] <Crono57888> And I don't know what that means...
[04:42] <danko123456> anathema: yeah, still its complaining about the libstdc++..
[04:42] <anathema> yes
[04:42] <danko123456> johnnybezak: http://pastebin.com/292469 ...that is in hoary..
[04:42] <anathema> im just tryin to run the binary and its giving that error
[04:43] <danko123456> can you link us, anathema?
[04:43] <anathema> to the tgz file? sure
[04:43] <danko123456> k
[04:43] <anathema> http://secway.fr/resources/setup/simpserver/simpserver-2.1.5a-linux-x86.tgz
[04:43] <Crono57888> Er...
[04:43] <Crono57888> Azalia chipset
[04:44] <kalenedrael> ok, i just came over to kubuntu from fedora core 3 and i have been having some very irritating problems
[04:44] <anathema> small binary if yu wanna try it danko
[04:44] <danko123456> that is not a binary...
[04:44] <danko123456> :)
[04:44] <johnnybezak> danko123456: thanks man
[04:44] <danko123456> its a source file...isnt it?
[04:44] <zenrox> kalenedrael, got to #kubuntu
[04:44] <anathema> no
[04:44] <danko123456> johnnybezak: that is in hoary, tho...
[04:44] <kalenedrael> going...
[04:44] <anathema> just a binary that you run
[04:44] <anathema> nothing compiles
[04:44] <garnertr> evening all ... :)
[04:44] <son> darn, gaim is down
[04:44] <anathema> you just run the binary and it works
[04:44] <johnnybezak> danko123456: yeah>?
[04:44] <anathema> the old version worked..
[04:45] <danko123456> johnnybezak: so you can install that from hoary, then?
[04:45] <danko123456> hey, garnertr.
[04:45] <danko123456> oh, youre right, anathema.
[04:45] <anathema> does it not work for you either?
[04:46] <garnertr> hey danko! :)  Having a great day today; Ubuntu is screaming on my laptop and I was a able to listen to a music cd and watch a dvd and a vcd... now that all my issues are fixed,  I don't have anything to complain about.. :)
[04:46] <danko123456> anathema: this is the error I get, tho: http://pastebin.com/292470 .
[04:46] <Dr_Melectaus> Did some one want me?
[04:46] <danko123456> garnertr: nice:)
[04:46] <danko123456> I broke a RAM slot in another computer tho...:)
[04:46] <garnertr> last week I was unable to do so, for some odd reason ubuntu didn't "see" my dvd/cdr installed and after yesterdays security patch upgrade, it worked... yeah! :)
[04:46] <danko123456> did we want you, Dr_Melectaus?
[04:47] <danko123456> nice, garnertr, gotta ahve faith:)
[04:47] <Dr_Melectaus> i was watching a dvd in full screen. its just finished and someone had said my name as the chan tab was highlited blue
[04:47] <Dr_Melectaus> scrolled up but it doesnt go back far enough
[04:47] <garnertr> true..
[04:47] <danko123456> maybe someone did.
[04:48] <nalioth> Dr_Melectaus: choose. us or DVd
[04:48] <nalioth> Dr_Melectaus: lol
[04:48] <danko123456> :)
[04:48] <danko123456> nalioth: I talked to your buddy today, houstontx....
[04:48] <danko123456> william
[04:48] <danko123456> and I was about to see into it with him, but he left...
[04:48] <anathema> danko123456, it will work if you put it in /usr/local/simp/
[04:48] <danko123456> into his speed problem.
[04:48] <danko123456> put the whole file?
[04:48] <danko123456> ugh...dir?
[04:48] <anathema> the simp dir
[04:48] <Dr_Melectaus> nalioth, :O DVD. its charlie angels 2, dam. cameron diaz got her top off  ;(
[04:48] <danko123456> kk, sec
[04:49] <anathema> put it in /usr/local
[04:49] <maxy_noob> can someone tell me how to get to the Synaptic repositories dialog box
[04:49] <anathema> anathema@wheinbox:/usr/local/simp/bin$ ./simpserver
[04:49] <anathema> ./simpserver: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:49] <anathema> damnit
[04:49] <anathema> why wont it wokr :(
[04:50] <anathema> what file is it looking for!
[04:50] <danko123456> maxy_noob: um...Packages>Repos.
[04:50] <danko123456> not working here, tho...why you want it?
[04:50] <maxy_noob> Packages?
[04:50] <danko123456> maxy_noob: there is a packages menu on the top, isnt there?
[04:51] <danko123456> anathema: you were right, it did, http://pastebin.com/292473
[04:51] <anathema> doh
[04:51] <anathema> thats what i want to see
[04:51] <maxy_noob> I only have Applications, Places, System
[04:51] <anathema> but instead i get the above error :(
[04:51] <anathema> any idea why ?
[04:51] <danko123456> maxy_noob: well, what are you doing, you said to see the repos in synaptic.
[04:51] <danko123456> ah,...
[04:51] <danko123456> open synaptic, then do Packages>repos
[04:52] <maxy_noob> I know where Synaptic Package Manager is but the directions on that wiki site you sent me doesn't seem to follow the menus of that program
[04:52] <danko123456> anathema: did you sudo apt-get install build-essential since we started speaking?
[04:52] <garnertr> sorry; playing around here... how does one get your stats changed in X-Chat?  Mine is showing info that is incorrect (country, ip address...yikes)....
[04:52] <anathema> no, but i searched for it, its installed
[04:52] <anathema> want me to reinstall it
[04:52] <anathema> ?
[04:52] <danko123456> please do that command, yes.
[04:52] <danko123456> it will not install if it is already fine
[04:53] <anathema> build-essential is already the newest version.
[04:53] <dbernar1> k, that means its fine...
[04:53] <dbernar1> just a sec...
[04:54] <maxy_noob> For instance, wiki site says that in the Synaptic repositories dialog box, I should click Add and then Custom, but I don't see "Add"
[04:55] <anathema> any ideas danko123456 ?
[04:55] <nalioth> maxy_noob: the terminal is your friend
[04:55] <maxy_noob> nalioth, I believe that, dude, but presently we're not on speaking terms.
[04:55] <maxy_noob> :D
[04:55] <moyogo> maxy_noob: ? no Add button?
[04:55] <danko123456> maxy_noob: open synaptic, settings, repositories, done that?
[04:56] <maxy_noob> danko123456, yes
[04:56] <danko3> anathema, just a sec, plese.
[04:56] <anathema> sure
[04:56] <anathema> thanks
[04:56] <nalioth> maxy_noob: huh?
[04:56] <moyogo> maxy_noob: do you have hoary?
[04:56] <maxy_noob> moyogo, no add button
[04:56] <maxy_noob> yes, 5.04
[04:56] <moyogo> maxy_noob: can you show us a screenshot?
[04:57] <Mahl> whats the best yet easiest to configure firewall program out there
[04:57] <nalioth> maxy_noob: a simple "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" will get you what you want, w/o the button pushing and confusion
[04:57] <maxy_noob> nalioth, thanks man. I'll try that.
[04:57] <danko123456> well, garnertr should have a longer attention span... http://xchat.org/faq/ .
[04:57] <maxy_noob> nalioth, btw, by not being "on speaking terms" I meant, I don't know the commands so that I can befriend the terminal
[04:58] <nalioth> maxy_noob: then welcome to the terminal
[04:58] <maxy_noob> :D
[04:58] <johnnybezak> hey guys im trying to ssh into my computer across the room and its giving me something about changed rsa keys how do i change this?
[04:58] <danko123456>  locate libstdc++.so anathema.
[04:58] <moyogo> johnnybezak: edit your .ssh/know_hosts file
[04:58] <nalioth> maxy_noob: btw, the commands at the bottom of the screen, after you get nano up are <ctrl+>whateve letter it says
[04:58] <danko123456> Mahl: well, we tend to use firestarter I think.
[04:58] <anathema> ok
[04:58] <anathema> its ther
[04:58] <anathema> e
[04:59] <anathema> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/3.3.5/libstdc++.so
[04:59] <nalioth> maxy_noob: nano is a purty simple text editor
[04:59] <moyogo> johnnybezak: a quick hack is to remove the line mentioning that machine
[04:59] <danko123456>  /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6?
[04:59] <paulproteus> johnnybezak: Well, if you're sure that they should have changed, you should read the message that it printed.
[04:59] <anathema> nope
[04:59] <anathema> doesnt exist
[04:59] <anathema> hmmmm
[04:59] <paulproteus> It says, in part, "remove the line from .ssh/known_hosts".
[04:59] <anathema> just .5
[04:59] <danko123456> ok, well, lets see.
[04:59] <paulproteus> So, edit $HOME/.ssh/known_hosts.
[04:59] <anathema> and the regular .so
[04:59] <danko123456> pc, btw?
[04:59] <anathema> /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5.0.7
[04:59] <anathema> thats the highest ver i have
[05:00] <gbic> anyone here know how to fix a sound issue with cs:s? when I try to run cs:source it says hardware sound is in use...I have changed config to use alsa instead of oss
[05:00] <gbic> I have disabled sound server on startup also
[05:00] <anathema> i found it in apt danko123456
[05:00] <anathema> gonna install it
[05:00] <danko123456> good, do so.
[05:01] <Mahl> Thanks alot danko123456
[05:01] <maxy_noob> I'm just installing all related quicktime files
[05:01] <danko123456> mahl, what did I do again:)
[05:01] <Mahl> Some user was able to trace me to my home adress
[05:01] <danko123456> ah, I remember
[05:01] <Mahl> able to get personal information of me just by "tracing" me
[05:01] <danko123456> nice... awful... loser guy, I guess...
[05:02] <Mahl> I asked him to
[05:02] <Mahl> testing security
[05:02] <anathema> nice, it works
[05:02] <anathema> woo
[05:02] <danko123456> oh, ok...
[05:02] <danko123456> nice, anathema, you learned to look in synaptic...:)
[05:02] <anathema> haha actually i misread the error
[05:02] <lampshade> well it is pretty freaking easy to find a lot of people's houses just with their IP.  There are a ton of websites that do it
[05:02] <danko123456> nice...
[05:02] <anathema> i thought libstdc was looking for some other file
[05:02] <maxy_noob> eveyn when I do that, Firefox tells me I'm missing plugin
[05:02] <anathema> but not listing it
[05:02] <anathema> haha
[05:02] <danko123456> hehe...
[05:03] <danko123456> maxy_noob: what are you trying to do?
[05:03] <danko123456> please dont edit your sources.list, I gave you the best ones there are
[05:03] <johnnybezak> moyogo: thanks
[05:03] <maxy_noob> I'm trying to run stuff that uses the quicktime pluggin
[05:03] <danko123456> ok, in web pages?
[05:03] <maxy_noob> danko123456, yes
[05:03] <danko123456> that may not be possible, sory to say...
[05:03] <danko123456> giveme a link, Ill tell you if it is:)
[05:03] <maxy_noob> really?
[05:03] <lampshade> does mplayer handle that?
[05:04] <danko123456> yes, but not gracefully, sorry to say
[05:04] <danko123456> yes, maxy_noob really, it may work, tho, please tell me the link
[05:04] <lampshade> meh, quicktime isn't that gracefull with quicktime I'd say..
[05:04] <maxy_noob> http://www.apple.com/trailers/
[05:04] <nalioth> maxy_noob: the sorenson codec that is in modern quicktime is not supported by libquicktime (i believe)
[05:04] <moyogo> johnnybezak: no prob
[05:04] <danko123456> oh, it is, do try a Mac:)
[05:05] <danko123456> ok, maxy_noob I need at least 4.
[05:05] <danko123456> muibnutes, that is
[05:05] <maxy_noob> muibnutes?
[05:05] <danko123456> minutes, read between the lines:)
[05:05] <maxy_noob> hahahahaha
[05:05] <danko123456> ok, here goes.
[05:05] <maxy_noob> sorry
[05:05] <danko123456> no need to be sorry:) IM just a jerk...
[05:06] <maxy_noob> danko123456, jerks don't help
[05:06] <lampshade> I have the worst mosquito bite on my ankle
[05:06] <dr_willis> Amputate!
[05:06] <[Chameleon] > dr_willis: LOL
[05:06] <lampshade> That may be my only option
[05:06] <Mahl> ok danko123456 i got it up and running...hope it works
[05:07] <iceman2K> anyone installed openmosix on ubuntu
[05:07] <maxy_noob> danko123456, btw, was it you who told me couldn't share his internet connection with network pc's?
[05:07] <dr_willis> Tourniqute! suck out the Posion!
[05:07] <[Chameleon] > lampshade: you need a radical mastectomy
[05:07] <danko123456> sure we do:)
[05:07] <danko123456> maxy_noob: yes!
[05:08] <danko123456> dr_willis: another lol here...
[05:08] <maxy_noob> danko123456, I figured it out with crimsun's help
[05:08] <iceman2K> I need help installing openmosix on my ubuntu system .. anyone able to help ?
[05:08] <danko123456> maxy_noob: cool, Ill note to ask him, I guess, if you dont know...:-/
[05:08] <lampshade> iceman2K:  sudo apt-get install openmosix?  DOes that work?
[05:08] <maxy_noob> Well, I kinda do
[05:09] <iceman2K> lampshade nope ... tried ..
[05:09] <maxy_noob> Well, I know what worked for me.
[05:09] <danko123456> k, tell me about it...Ill read it...
[05:09] <lampshade> that's what I do most the time, just randomly guess apt-get program names
[05:09] <maxy_noob> For me, entering dns addresses got the ball rolling.
[05:09] <danko123456> aha, which ones?
[05:09] <iceman2K> Package openmosix is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:09] <iceman2K> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[05:09] <iceman2K> is only available from another source
[05:09] <maxy_noob> and static ip's.
[05:10] <danko123456> which dnss, tho?
[05:10] <lampshade> iceman2K:  You might just have the name slightly wrong.  try apt-cache search openmosix  and see if you get the thing you really need
[05:10] <maxy_noob> System > Administration > Networking > DNS
[05:11] <maxy_noob> I used the first two
[05:11] <danko123456> aha, well, which dns servers, tho...what numbers?
[05:11] <iceman2K> openmosixview - A graphical tool to manage an openmosix cluster
[05:11] <danko123456> oh, the ones that are there...
[05:11] <danko123456> kk.
[05:11] <maxy_noob> yep
[05:11] <iceman2K> needs openmosix to install that pacage ..
[05:11] <danko123456> been there, iceman2K: http://openmosix.sourceforge.net/ ?
[05:12] <maxy_noob> Make sure to enter static ip, subnet mask, and gateway
[05:12] <danko123456> ok I will sure try that, thanks for the info...
[05:12] <iceman2K> danko123456 been there .. dont see instructions worth a dang
[05:12] <maxy_noob> danko123456, no problem.
[05:12] <Orunitia> oookay, I broke gnome-terminal somewhere in the settings, is there any way I can get to gnome-terminal's settings without opening it?
[05:12] <maxy_noob> danko123456, did you get the quicktime trailers working?
[05:13] <maxy_noob> I hope breezy has the license to distribute these.
[05:13] <danko123456> k, just a sec...no, they will not.
[05:14] <thr1ce> mplayer will play .mov
[05:14] <maxy_noob> bummer
[05:14] <danko123456> iceman2K: how about... http://mcaserta.com/openMosix-for-drones/ ?
[05:14] <danko123456> just a sec, tho...
[05:16] <nern> hi
[05:16] <danko123456> hey, nern...
[05:16] <maxy_noob> installing mplayer
[05:16] <nalioth> thr1ce: older codec mov
[05:16] <danko123456> maxy_noob: again, I fail at making it work in the browser...
[05:16] <thr1ce> nalioth: huh?  I compiled mplayer today and watched a .mov
[05:16] <maxy_noob> danko123456, ok man.
[05:17] <maxy_noob> thanks for trying.
[05:17] <danko123456> http://images.apple.com/movies/paramount_classics/apres_vous/apres_vous_m320.mov is teh URL of a file from one of those trailers...
[05:17] <maxy_noob> I'm going to try mplayer
[05:17] <danko123456> im not done, tho, this time I am gonna make it work, or kill it.:)_
[05:17] <iceman2K> why does this have to suck so much trying to install ... shoot . toast ubunt and install cluster knoppix ? dang it
[05:17] <nalioth> thr1ce: you watched a quicktime from apple.com/trailers?
[05:17] <thr1ce> nalioth: no, I only read being able to play a .mov
[05:17] <thr1ce> sorry :(
[05:17] <K_Dallas> mplayer has no counterpart, even under Windows it is way more powerfull than anything else i have ever tried
[05:18] <danko123456> vlc is ok, I am not sure of all the great things mplayer can do...
[05:18] <danko123456> maxy_noob: this will help with Mplayer, make sure to follow step by step... http://ubuntuguide.org/#mplayer .
[05:18] <maxy_noob> K_Dallas, but does it work seamlessly as a plugin for FF?
[05:18] <] BreliC[> yeah, mplayer can play lots of stuff, but it's flaky
[05:18] <] BreliC[> vlc appears more solid
[05:18] <rg58sma> hi
[05:18] <K_Dallas> is ff for subtitles?
[05:19] <rg58sma> y have a ploblem with mi repos
[05:19] <maxy_noob> Firefox
[05:19] <maxy_noob> FF = Firefox
[05:19] <K_Dallas> well i never needed plugins for any browser so i wouldnt know
[05:19] <rg58sma> ubuntusetup.sh
[05:19] <danko123456> rg58sma: we are here to help...
[05:19] <rg58sma> y download this file and i run
[05:20] <rg58sma> ok thanmks
[05:20] <rg58sma> have problem
[05:20] <rg58sma> with
[05:20] <rg58sma> wait me
[05:20] <danko123456> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and then replace everything in there with what is on this page: www.mts.net/~danb/sources.list then save, close, and sudo apt-get update
[05:20] <rg58sma> Err ftp://ftp.nerim.net testing Release.gpg
[05:20] <rg58sma>   La conexin expir [IP: 62.4.17.14 21] 
[05:20] <danko123456> that fixes repository problems.
[05:20] <rg58sma> and another
[05:20] <danko123456> and, nerim is not needed, do you need it?
[05:21] <maxy_noob> No unfortunately, mplayer doesn't play stuff off the quicktime trailer site
[05:21] <iceman2K> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:21] <iceman2K>   openmosixview: Depends: openmosix which is a virtual package.
[05:21] <rg58sma> for what is nerim???
[05:21] <iceman2K> anyone know what a virtiul package is
[05:21] <strider> hey
[05:21] <] BreliC[> i have my nForce4 mobo working fine under Ubuntu (heh, actually picked up *everything* whereas Windows picked up nothing!)... is there a reason for me to install nForce drivers?
[05:21] <rg58sma> Err ftp://ftp2.caliu.info hoary-extras/multiverse Packages
[05:21] <rg58sma>   Imposible traer archivo, el servidor dijo 'Security: Bad IP connecting.  '
[05:21] <rg58sma> Obj ft
[05:21] <maxy_noob> It's weird that browser plugins don't work easily in Linux.
[05:22] <danko123456> please do what I told you above, rg58sma your sources will be fine then.
[05:22] <thr1ce> ] BreliC[: if it's not broke, don't try to fix it
[05:22] <strider> can someone help me to find info to solve  problem with my cdrom
[05:22] <danko123456> iceman2K: it is a package that refers to other packages,, like a package of packages. I think.
[05:22] <] BreliC[> thr1ce, yeah, that's what i always think, but just wondering if it actually provides anything extra
[05:22] <rg58sma> ok
[05:23] <danko123456> maxy_noob: so so weird...
[05:23] <rg58sma> but i have installed ubuntu in spanish
[05:23] <danko123456> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and then replace everything in there with what is on this page: www.mts.net/~danb/sources.list then save, close, and sudo apt-get update
[05:23] <rg58sma> because im argentinian
[05:23] <iceman2K> danko123456 how can i find a download site with the package ?
[05:23] <thr1ce> ] BreliC[: um...unless you're video isn't working properly
[05:23] <rg58sma> is the same??
[05:23] <strider> each time I mount cd rom I get like 10 CD-rom windows spaning
[05:23] <nern> wow
[05:23] <maxy_noob> anyone know of plugins that work with Firefox in Linux?
[05:23] <danko123456> also, you can change the URLs in that file to use mirrors for argentina, please cat /etc/apt/sources.list and paste that file to http
[05:23] <nern> flash
[05:24] <nern> i think that about the only one i have working
[05:24] <danko123456> http://pastebin.com and tell me the URL you get
[05:24] <danko123456> that is all for you rg58sma.
[05:24] <rg58sma> wget file in  /etc/apt is the same or replace the text in file
[05:24] <nern> the windows media i still dont have working either
[05:24] <rg58sma> with gedit
[05:24] <danko123456> ok,
[05:24] <] BreliC[> maxy_noob, i have videos playing in FF.. is that what you're after?
[05:24] <IcemanV9> maxy_noob: all plugins work (only if u follow the instructions at ubuntuguide.org)
[05:24] <rg58sma> is the same???
[05:24] <danko123456> rg58sma: please cat /etc/apt/sources.list and paste that file to http://pastebin.com and tell me the URL you get
[05:25] <danko123456> ] BreliC[: yes, it is, how?
[05:25] <iceman2K> danko123456 no source list for virtual packages
[05:25] <] BreliC[> danko123456, i followed the help at ubuntuguide.org and it worked fine
[05:25] <nern> i think i might try a bsd
[05:25] <nern> any recommendations?
[05:25] <] BreliC[> the only thing that doesn't work are newer .mov files
[05:25] <nalioth> ] BreliC[: you x86 guys have all the fun
[05:26] <nern> i mean one of my friends says openbsd and the other says netbsd and i was kind of thinking of going with the big guy freebsd, but i dont know
[05:26] <] BreliC[> nalioth, you on mac?
[05:26] <danko123456> iceman2K: well, did you read the newbie page on their site?
[05:26] <danko123456> ] BreliC[: is that the trailers at apple.com,  I think it is, newer .movs, right?
[05:26] <rg58sma> pastebin dont work??
[05:26] <iceman2K> danko123456 on who's page ?
[05:26] <] BreliC[> danko123456, yes... they don't work for me
[05:26] <adoyretsamon> rafb.net
[05:26] <danko123456> again, well, use http://pastebin.ca
[05:27] <danko123456> http://mcaserta.com/openMosix-for-drones/ iceman2K.
[05:27] <nern> no bsd savvy folk here? who would care to respond?
[05:27] <rg58sma> http://pastebin.ca/13002
[05:28] <rg58sma> danko123456, http://pastebin.ca/13002
[05:28] <iceman2K> danko123456 oh, no .. a do  "aptitude install openmosixview ... and it wants a virtual package ...
[05:28] <strider> anyone here who can point me in the right direction?
[05:28] <danko123456> nern: well, try Ubuntu...:-p
[05:28] <danko123456> iceman2K: do a click ont he URL:-p
[05:28] <Razor-X> anyone have advice to concatenate protected PDFs?
[05:28] <danko123456> k, second, please rg58sma.
[05:29] <Razor-X> this isn't for any illegal purpose, I just want to have about 20 PDFs in one convenient file
[05:29] <Razor-X> so I can go print it in Kinkos
[05:29] <Razor-X> *at
[05:29] <arvin> Hi,
[05:29] <arvin> I'm using the ubuntu distribution. I've been plagued with an irritating problem from the touchpad. Often a tap is treated as a middle button press (it pastes the clipboard buffer on whatever app I'm using ). I've tried to disable this thru xorg.conf by setting Emulate3Buttons to "false". However, the problem persists. Anybody got any ideas on this ?
[05:29] <iceman2K> danko123456 still need the aptitude file ... might be easier ...
[05:29] <Razor-X> arvin: try the GNOME setup
[05:29] <Razor-X> not sure about the workings of GNOME myself, though, since I'm a Kubunt user
[05:30] <Razor-X> or, however you configure GNOME
[05:30] <Razor-X> it's more than likely a GNOME issue
[05:30] <RastaMahata> I have a big question...
[05:30] <danko123456> iceman2K: I would definitely read that page most surely.
[05:30] <arvin> razor whats gnome
[05:30] <danko123456> pklease not too big...
[05:30] <nalioth> l8r
[05:30] <RastaMahata> could I leave things downloading if I close my session?
[05:30] <danko123456> yes, on tty1
[05:30] <RastaMahata> how?
[05:31] <Razor-X> arvin: ...............
[05:31] <Razor-X> it's the Window Manager you're using
[05:31] <danko123456> please try alt+ctrl+f1 (alt+ctrl+f7 gets you back here...)
[05:31] <RastaMahata> No, sorry, thats not what I meant
[05:31] <iceman2K> true ...
[05:31] <RastaMahata> I'm downloading files in a remote system through ssh
[05:31] <strider> Razor-X  do you know where should I look to fix my cd rom problem (each time I put the CD in the multiple cd rom windows open up <try like 10 or so>)
[05:31] <rg58sma> danko123456,  but i replace my sources.list another you give to me
[05:31] <Razor-X> RastaMahata: start a screen session on the box
[05:31] <] BreliC[> RastaMahata, yes, by using screen
[05:31] <iceman2K> danko123456 g3torrent-debianize.diff how to open and run that
[05:31] <arvin> ok so if i go into gnome..what do i do
[05:31] <danko123456> well, do the session through that terminal
[05:31] <RastaMahata> I want to keep that system downloading files, but I want to close my terminal
[05:31] <Razor-X> RastaMahata: and then quit
[05:32] <Razor-X> RastaMahata: when you relogin to the box, type in 'screen -dr'
[05:32] <danko123456> iceman2K: give me a few, I need to finish rg58sma.
[05:32] <Razor-X> I do that on this box, actually
[05:32] <danko123456> rg58sma: give me a few seconds, almost done
[05:32] <Razor-X> (am working through SSH now)
[05:32] <RastaMahata> screen -dr ? whats that?
[05:32] <iceman2K> danko123456 i understand
[05:32] <] BreliC[> Razor-X, don't you have to detach the session first?
[05:32] <goldfish> RastaMahata: http://f0rked.com/core/irssi
[05:32] <Razor-X> strider: you mean, multiple windows that show the contents of the cd?
[05:32] <rg58sma> ok
[05:32] <Razor-X> ] BreliC[: never have myself
[05:32] <strider> actually multiple CD-ROm icons on the desktop a well
[05:33] <robert__> Could anyone recommend a good web page editor please?
[05:33] <Razor-X> I just auto-quit it
[05:33] <goldfish> RastaMahata: Read the screen bit on that site.
[05:33] <RastaMahata> goldfish, thanks
[05:33] <arvin> i tried searching forums on ubuntu for the solutions, but none of them work
[05:33] <Razor-X> I myself use SSH for IRC alal the time
[05:33] <goldfish> np
[05:33] <Razor-X> *all
[05:33] <Razor-X> and a myriad of other things
[05:33] <arvin> i still have the tap problem with my touchpad
[05:33] <Razor-X> arvin: have you tried to edit your GNOME config?
[05:33] <danko123456> rg58sma: that is the file you want: http://pastebin.ca/13003 .
[05:34] <strider> Razor-X: actually multiple CD-ROm icons on the desktop a well
[05:34] <] BreliC[> arvin, is it a synaptic touchpad?
[05:34] <goldfish> you should do ^a -d, to detach.
[05:34] <arvin> yes it is a synaptic
[05:34] <Madpilot> robert__: try Bluefish or Screem, they're both in Syn
[05:34] <arvin> i tried searching the forums
[05:34] <danko123456> then sudo apt-get update, and never change it again, unless you know what you are doing...
[05:34] <robert__> tks
[05:34] <danko123456> or keep a backup of this file.
[05:35] <dna`> should i enable universe repo to get mp3 support/flashplayer?
[05:35] <danko123456> that uses your argentinian mirror for downloading the files, for maximum speed, rg58sma.
[05:35] <danko123456> dna`: yes.
[05:35] <arvin> razor, is there a tutorial on how to edit my gnome config to identify my touchpad tap as just a left click?
[05:35] <danko123456> iceman2K: where were we:)
[05:35] <danko123456> anyhow, where is this fiel you are getting?
[05:35] <dna`> danko123456, is it secure though? :/
[05:35] <danko123456> dna`: I ahve it open all the time.
[05:35] <arvin> i tried the ubuntu wiki for this synaptic touchpad problem, yet it didnt help.
[05:35] <rg58sma> no
[05:36] <dna`> nice :)
[05:36] <iceman2K> danko123456 sec downloading the sourceforge file ..
[05:36] <danko123456> dna`: do you know how to edit your sources.list?
[05:36] <dna`> danko123456, yeah i do
[05:36] <rg58sma> but the mirror contains the same info??
[05:36] <rg58sma> i need w32codecs
[05:36] <thr1ce> anyone know how to display all of the symlinks my comp has?
[05:36] <rg58sma> for mplayer
[05:36] <Razor-X> arvin: not sure
[05:36] <Razor-X> like I said, I don't use GNOME myself
[05:36] <arvin> razor, thanks anyways
[05:37] <danko123456> yes, it should, rg58sma,  try, then ask more if it does not work
[05:37] <Razor-X> I was googling a bit, though
[05:37] <] BreliC[> arvin, i had that problem at one point with a synaptic touchpad, and i added a line to the grub booter and it fixed it... 'psmouse.proto=imps'
[05:37] <dna`> whats the package name for ati accelerated drivers?
[05:37] <danko123456> arvin: tried the forums?
[05:37] <danko123456> dna`: www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriver
[05:37] <Razor-X> arvin: try GNOME Control Center, I guess?
[05:37] <dna`> i thank thee danko123456 !
[05:38] <danko123456> I have never seen it work for someone, altho I know many ppl get it to work in the end.
[05:38] <iceman2K> danko123456 whats easy to install rpm's on ubuntu or binary's
[05:38] <arvin> danko, yes they all pointed me to edit the xorg.conf file
[05:38] <rg58sma> the source that www.mts.net/~danb/sources.list works
[05:38] <arvin> which ruined everything
[05:38] <rg58sma> but i dont have a mplayer
[05:38] <danko123456> ] BreliC[ said something...
[05:38] <rg58sma> and another thing
[05:39] <rg58sma>  like java
[05:39] <danko123456> rg58sma: please change yoru sources to this: http://pastebin.ca/13003
[05:39] <danko123456> It is argentina specific.
[05:39] <arvin> brelic...how do i go about doing that in grub
[05:39] <danko123456> but, you will have mplayer, Ill tell you.
[05:39] <] BreliC[> arvin, edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst (you'll have to use sudo)
[05:39] <danko123456> after you change that sources, rg58sma, then sudo apt-get update
[05:40] <rg58sma> for what up or down
[05:40] <rg58sma> are the same??
[05:40] <arvin> ok trying it right now...
[05:40] <danko123456> rg58sma: no, notice the ar.
[05:41] <danko123456> that is for using a local server...
[05:41] <rg58sma> what??
[05:41] <rg58sma> what sources
[05:41] <rg58sma> the up or doiwn in pastebin page
[05:41] <] BreliC[> arvin, then on the entry for the Ubuntu boot entry, add it in the kernel line, somewhere after the /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.xx...
[05:41] <JasonF> Hello
[05:41] <danko123456> deb http://ar.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[05:41] <JasonF> I just installed hoary
[05:41] <JasonF> and my X Server is stuck at 640 resolution (yikes)
[05:41] <danko123456> taht means you get files from argentina, not from US...
[05:41] <JasonF> how can I remedy this?
[05:42] <danko123456> http://pastebin.ca/13003 has only one set....not sure what you mean...
[05:42] <stonecrest> JasonF: are other resolutions specified in your xorg.conf?
[05:42] <IcemanV9> JasonF: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:42] <nern> anybody like to recommend a bsd
[05:42] <nern> i want to try one
[05:42] <danko123456> read about them, best to do...
[05:43] <iceman2K> crap  .. these instructions are outdated ...
[05:43] <nern> k thx
[05:43] <danko123456> welcome,.
[05:43] <IcemanV9> nern: freebsd.org
[05:43] <iceman2K> just need to find a  virtual package download site ?
[05:44] <rg58sma> why #deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat testing main ??
[05:44] <danko123456> it is commented out # means you are not gonna use it.
[05:44] <nern> IcemanV9: so you would recommend FreeBSD?
[05:44] <arvin> ok 2 questions for u brelic, i dont add it to recovery mode ubuntu only standard boot correct? and second question is do i add that line AFTER this entry
[05:44] <arvin> /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-386 root=/dev/hda3 ro quiet splash
[05:44] <rg58sma> why #deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat testing main have a "#"
[05:44] <danko123456> # means you are not gonna use it.
[05:45] <IcemanV9> nern: i have used it for a long time. it is good BSD for noob. :)
[05:45] <danko123456> you dont need it, that is why you are not gonna use it.
[05:45] <dna`> whats the difference between universe and multiuniverse?
[05:46] <rg58sma> what have this???
[05:46] <nern> IcemanV9: well good, i just so happen to have 5.4 burned already :)
[05:46] <rg58sma> what are in nerim
[05:46] <danko123456> nothing for you at this time.
[05:46] <danko123456> I am not sure.
[05:46] <IcemanV9> nern: ha. well. enjoy, then.
[05:46] <dna`> multiverse i mean sorry
[05:46] <danko123456> universe is open source software and multiverse is closed source.
[05:46] <rg58sma> but mplayer are there???
[05:46] <JasonF> IcemanV9: thank you, although now I have to track down the refresh rates for my monitor
[05:46] <danko123456> no, its n universe
[05:47] <] BreliC[> arvin, you don't need to add it to the recovery mode.  and second question, just add what i told you *to* that line, not a new line.. so /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-386 root=/dev/hda3 ro quiet splash psmouse.proto=imps
[05:47] <rg58sma> ok thanks
[05:47] <rg58sma> man
[05:47] <rg58sma> you are a good man
[05:47] <danko123456> welxcome
[05:47] <arvin> alright got it brelic
[05:47] <danko123456> sudo apt-get update
[05:47] <danko123456> im a kid...22
[05:47] <IcemanV9> JasonF: sure. either from the manual or via google. you'll have the refresh rate.
[05:47] <rg58sma> o
[05:47] <robitaille> danko123456,  for a bit more detail about universe vs multiverse: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/
[05:47] <rg58sma> im too
[05:47] <rg58sma> 22
[05:47] <rg58sma> where are??
[05:47] <danko123456> thank you.
[05:48] <danko123456> Canada, props to Maradona:)
[05:48] <flankk> other than scheduled release cycle and x.org, what else does ubuntu have that debian doesn't?
[05:48] <iceman2K> openmosix is a virtual package and how the hell to get it ...
[05:48] <JasonF> IcemanV9: google is how I used to always find it, for some god-forsaken reason, they took the refresh rates off the page
[05:48] <JasonF> IcemanV9: is there any other way to find otu
[05:48] <danko123456> dna`: see that link?
[05:48] <rg58sma> jajjai
[05:48] <arvin> ok thanks alot brelic
[05:48] <arvin> im going to try it out right now
[05:48] <RastaMahata> goldfish, thanks for the screen toturial :D
[05:48] <] BreliC[> arvin, ok, good luck
[05:48] <RastaMahata> tutorial, too
[05:48] <rg58sma> is the most amazing futbol player in the UNIVERSE and MULTIVERSE
[05:48] <rg58sma> jajajaj
[05:49] <danko123456> hehe:) I saw a video recently, man, that guy could control the ball......and dance at the same time:)
[05:49] <goldfish> RastaMahata: np
[05:49] <IcemanV9> JasonF: not really. hate to say this, but did u use windows? if so, then you can write down the refresh rate.
[05:49] <iceman2K> shoot how to run a ex file type ..
[05:49] <goldfish> RastaMahata: http://www.hn2.org/docs/tbg/screen.html
[05:49] <JasonF> I know  what refresh rate I want
[05:49] <danko123456> hey, rg58sma tried #ubuntu-es ?
[05:49] <goldfish> RastaMahata: thats a better one i was just informed :)
[05:49] <JasonF> I know I want to run 1152@75hz
[05:50] <RastaMahata> thanks :D
[05:50] <JasonF> but I don't know the horizsync and vertrefresh
[05:50] <IcemanV9> JasonF: what is ur monitor model??
[05:50] <JasonF> IcemanV9: hah! extracted it from the monitor .inf file download from their site
[05:50] <JasonF> MGC 17" something or other
[05:51] <JasonF> IcemanV9: brb, seeing if the new settings work
[05:51] <IcemanV9> JasonF: cool.
[05:52] <danko123456> iceman2K: um, more info?
[05:52] <rg58sma> yes
[05:52] <rg58sma> but the level in not good like here
[05:52] <danko123456> yeah, I agree.
[05:52] <iceman2K> virtual package, dont know .. i aptitude install openmosixview and it tells me
[05:52] <iceman2K> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:52] <dna`> yes danko123456 thanks :)
[05:52] <iceman2K>   openmosixview: Depends: openmosix which is a virtual package.
[05:53] <danko123456> altho, I dont kno what they are talking about so I cant tell.:)
[05:53] <iceman2K> i aptitude install openmosix .. not found
[05:53] <arvin> ok it didnt work
[05:53] <] BreliC[> arvin, hmm...
[05:53] <arvin> it gave me an error
[05:54] <danko123456> why does make not work again, after configure?
[05:54] <arvin> unkown boot option
[05:54] <rg58sma> what program use to make a download
[05:54] <arvin> ignoring command
[05:54] <arvin> or something
[05:54] <rg58sma> like apt-get update
[05:54] <rg58sma> in right time
[05:54] <danko123456> rg58sma: what are you getting, though?
[05:54] <rg58sma> like i go to bed
[05:54] <] BreliC[> arvin, really?  well, just take it out i guess, but it did work for me on an older install with a synaptic touchpad
[05:54] <fishie> how do i install plugins for gimp? i tried gimptool command but that doesn't work
[05:55] <rg58sma> an a like what in 4 o clok my ubunto make a apt-get  upgrade
[05:56] <danko123456> you can sudo apt-get dist-upgrade that updates your whole system.
[05:56] <rg58sma> ok
[05:56] <danko123456> if you are installing a specific program, sudo apt-get install programName
[05:56] <rg58sma> yes
[05:56] <rexykik> f
[05:56] <danko123456> which one?
[05:56] <danko123456> g
[05:56] <rg58sma> like
[05:56] <rg58sma> various
[05:56] <rg58sma> progran
[05:56] <rg58sma> take 1 hours
[05:56] <rexykik> what is the command to make a fat32 filesystem? is it mkfs.vfat -F 32?
[05:56] <iceman2K> may just toast and install knoppixcluster ... has openmossix at install ...
[05:57] <fishie> i need a perfection thunderbird theme
[05:57] <cyphase> whats the cron syntax to run "ScriptName -a bbb -b ccc -c ddd" every 10 minutes?
[05:57] <iceman2K> i like ubuntu .. but want the openmosix cluster and network ability ... crud ...
[05:58] <cyphase> iceman2k, same here
[05:58] <dna`> can someone who uses universe and multiverse send me his sources.list or paste it please? i messed mine up :(
[05:58] <cyphase> that would be awesome
[05:58] <rg58sma> danko123456,  "PLAN" like plan
[05:58] <iceman2K> dna' you can just clic and turn them all on .. i did
[05:58] <cyphase> dna`, i sent it
[05:59] <dna`> cyphase, argh my dcc is fubar ;/
[05:59] <cyphase> 1 sec
[05:59] <cyphase> brb
[05:59] <bigbill52a> does anyone know why the xserver crashes so completely that even the keyboard doesnt work and you have little square grey blocks on the screen
[05:59] <arvin> hmm ive been trying to figure out this synaptics thing for hours now, ive tried the forums and wiki but none of them have worked, instead of left clicking whenever i tap using my touchpad, it pastes my clipboard or opens up a tab in firefox wen i click i link
[05:59] <iceman2K> dna' here is my sources .. file xfer to you ..
[06:00] <dna`> iceman2K, dcc doesnt work, can you email or paste please?
[06:00] <iceman2K> dna' sure ..
[06:01] <] BreliC[> cyphase, */10 will give you every 10 minutes
[06:01] <jack664614894> why u alway say ubuntu is good
[06:01] <jack664614894> i don't think so
[06:01] <danko123456> I dont think so netiher, ubuntu is evil, but he hides it well...
[06:02] <danko123456> that is why everyone is like, ubuntu is good...
[06:02] <] BreliC[> so "*/10 * * * * Scriptname -a bbb"
[06:02] <iceman2K> cyphase you been able to install openmosix on a ubuntu system
[06:02] <danko123456> jack664614894: now, do you have anything we could try to help you with?
[06:03] <iceman2K> may just toast ubuntu ... hate to .. but no clear install instruction for openmosix ..
[06:03] <danko123456> iceman2K: yeah, I tried to compile, it dont work...
[06:04] <Razor-X> does LTSP work in Ubuntu/
[06:04] <Razor-X> *?
[06:04] <danko123456> noone is here now that knows lots, though, so you can give it some time, too.
[06:04] <JDahl_> iceman2K, openmosix is that the package for clustermanagement?
[06:04] <Razor-X> i'm planning on installing NTSP
[06:04] <Razor-X> JDahl_: one of them
[06:04] <Razor-X> there are many clustermanagement packages for Linux
[06:04] <iceman2K> yes .. its a add on to the kernel for clustering ..
[06:04] <Razor-X> *LTSP
[06:05] <iceman2K> knoppixcluster has it preinstalled .. so does clusternix ..
[06:05] <Razor-X> goddamned mice..... I can't stand them!
[06:05] <JDahl_> iceman2K, you can't really expect Ubuntu to have cracker-jack support for something like that - Ubuntu is still oriented towards desktop use
[06:05] <Razor-X> stupid stupid pointing devices!
[06:05] <Razor-X> why doesen't compilation work?
[06:06] <arvin> so anyone know the solution to my touchpad tapping problem or am i flat out of luck?
[06:06] <iceman2K> JDahl try aptitude install openmosicview ... it in the repository ... but lacks a package to install
[06:06] <Nula> arvin what type of touchpad?
[06:06] <Nula> alps?
[06:06] <Razor-X> arvin: post to the Ubuntu forums
[06:06] <Razor-X> iceman2K: compile it
[06:06] <cyphase> ] BreliC[, whats the syntax though? what should i out on the line
[06:06] <rixth> Hmmm. My new SATA srive came today, now, when I go to install Hoary, I get "No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources"
[06:06] <cyphase> im nor familiar with cron
[06:07] <iceman2K> Razor-X cant find a "how to " to walk me through
[06:07] <JasonF> hrm
[06:07] <JasonF> iceman2K: I played with the numbers until I got a set that worked
[06:07] <JasonF> thanks.
[06:07] <cyphase> put*
[06:07] <JasonF> now, I get to enter the realm of dual-monitor setup w/nvidia
[06:07] <bigbill52a> did you do a search for syna in synaptic
[06:07] <zenrox> JasonF,  dual monitors rocks
[06:08] <DekaPink> Well, I've got Ubuntu installed and working now.
[06:08] <Jormundgand> I see no point in dual or more monitors.
[06:08] <DekaPink> Except I don't know how to go about setting up my internet connection.
[06:08] <Jormundgand> One monitor is perfectly sufficient.
[06:08] <JDahl_> iceman2K, In my experience - when you need something as special as that, you'll have to bite the bullet and dig through the documentation anyway; so you might as well compile it... I doubt other distros have point-and-click support for clustermanagement
[06:08] <iceman2K> JasonF aptitude wants a virtual package ...
[06:08] <rg58sma> please tellme a script sheel to apt-get upgrade with out me
[06:08] <danko123456> crimmy: hi! how can we install openmosix?
[06:08] <JasonF> iceman2K: howso?
[06:08] <DekaPink> Can anyone tell me what to do to set up my DSL? ^^
[06:09] <Razor-X> iceman2K: you can't have a guide for it
[06:09] <danko123456> well, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade should work if you leave it
[06:09] <Razor-X> if it's a kernel addon
[06:09] <rixth> Hmmm. My new SATA (SCSI) drive came today, now, when I go to install Hoary, I get "No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources" I havn't found anything useful on this. I've had no problems installing Hoary on a 20gb IDE disc on the same computer.
[06:09] <danko123456> DekaPink: sudo pppoeconf
[06:09] <iceman2K> JDahl_ knoppiccluster ... live cd that boot and clusters at boot ... easy to get up ..
[06:09] <Razor-X> then, you have to make sure you have the kernel headers package
[06:09] <Razor-X> add the neccessary stuff to the kernel
[06:09] <Razor-X> recompile
[06:09] <Razor-X> et viola, C'est Open-Mosix
[06:09] <DekaPink> danko123456: Thank you.
[06:10] <danko123456> welcome, hope t works, should.
[06:10] <iceman2K> anyone know a different cluster package
[06:11] <JDahl_> iceman2K, look at it this way: I bet you're one a of handful of people (at most) that have been looking for openmosix for Ubuntu... wouldn't you rather have devs spending time on other things?
[06:11] <iceman2K> JDahl_ i'll take a different cluster package ..
[06:12] <crimmy> if you're interested in cluster support on Ubuntu, I urge you to read the MOTUTeams wiki page and process thusly
[06:12] <crimmy> to proceed, rather
[06:12] <danko123456> urge?:)
[06:12] <iceman2K> ;-)
[06:12] <danko123456> thanks, crimmy.
[06:14] <DekaPink> Yay, that totally worked. :D
[06:14] <hitest> Is breezy really unstable that we shouldn't use it?
[06:15] <crimmy> hitest: yes
[06:15] <DekaPink> Now Ubuntu is connected~
[06:15] <hitest> Thank you.
[06:15] <danko123456> nice.
[06:15] <mcquaid> hello
 DO NOT INSTALL BREAZY UNLESS YOU WANT PROBLUMS
[06:15] <IcemanV9> DekaPink: wasn't it easy? :)
[06:16] <danko123456> crimmy: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MOTUTeams ? I have read the whole thing, and nothing on clusters...
[06:16] <rixth> Hmmm. My new SATA (SCSI) drive came today, now, when I go to install Hoary (from the CDs made by Ubuntu...), I get "No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources" I havn't found anything useful on this. I've had no problems installing Hoary on a 20gb IDE disc on the same computer.
[06:16] <crimmy> danko123456: (start a team for clustering)
[06:16] <danko123456> ah:)
[06:16] <mcquaid> i want to compile some software where obviously there are no debs available
[06:16] <hitest> I'm really liking 5.04, it has replaced Slackware 10.1 on my Plll IBM 667
[06:16] <mcquaid> i used to just install the dev files or whatever i needed in deb sid and compile the software
[06:16] <crimmy> mcquaid: for your personal use or for Ubuntu Breezy?
[06:16] <Jormundgand> zenrox: I get the feeling that's a touch extreme. Breezy for the most part is stable, but it has some annoying holes and certain configurations may well throw it.
[06:17] <mcquaid> for hoary
[06:17] <mcquaid> for myself though
[06:17] <IcemanV9> hitest: way to go! :)
[06:17] <zenrox> Jormundgand,  but not for the average user
[06:17] <mcquaid> what i'd like to do is make proper debs instead of compiling and installing software in this deb distro
[06:17] <arvin> hey if anyone would want to know for future reference i figured out the touchpad problem
[06:17] <crimmy> mcquaid: then you'll need to read the Debian New Maintainer's Guide and the Debian Developer's Guide
[06:17] <danko123456> Jormundgand: it is not for anyone that has no particular reason to use breezy, and who is content with hoary, and who is not someone who likes no headache computers...
[06:18] <crimmy> mcquaid: *hint* Go with cdbs
[06:18] <mcquaid> i was looking over the deb maintainers guide, but i was wondering if there is an abreviated way of making debs where the software compiles with ./configure make make install without issue
[06:18] <bigbill52a> what did you do arvin?
[06:18] <danko123456> arvin: post to forums, please!
[06:18] <crimmy> mcquaid: see above hint.
[06:18] <mcquaid> cdbs?
[06:18] <arvin> danko, its already on the forums
[06:18] <mcquaid> never heard of that
[06:18] <hitest> I like Slack, don't get me wrong, but, 5.04 plays better with all of my hardware.  Anyone know when the next stable release is coming out?
[06:18] <danko123456> ah, great.
[06:18] <mcquaid> i've tried checkinstall but dont like it
[06:18] <arvin> just wondering if u guys wanted to know if somoene else asks here
[06:18] <crimmy> mcquaid: and now you have. (Checkinstall is suboptimal.)
[06:18] <danko123456> 5.10;)
[06:18] <IcemanV9> hitest: october aka 5.10
[06:19] <tjs> whats up with firefox in hoary?
[06:19] <hitest> Thank you, IcemanV9!!  :-)
[06:19] <Jormundgand> And Ubuntu itself isn't without its annoying features, like the excessive tinkering with the packages. I don't like the ugly-as-hell logos for the customised Ubuntu versions of Firefox and Thunderbird and I want the correct logos in place, but I have no scope for that. Even the backports versions have the crappy "About" logos which defeats the purpose of backporting Firefox 1.0.4.
[06:19] <danko123456> tjs: exactly, whats up with it...
[06:19] <bob2> Jormundgand: er
[06:19] <quailster> tjs: I know, firefox stinks in hoary
[06:20] <bob2> Jormundgand: firefox and thunderbird have those logos because the firefox people insist on it
[06:20] <rixth> quailster, they failed to update the version numer too
[06:20] <tjs> danko123456, goto http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/upgrade/ with your hoary firefox
[06:20] <bob2> Jormundgand: if you want the pretty windows logo, talk to them
[06:20] <tjs> er
[06:20] <mcquaid> crimmy, hmm the cdbs page is kinda lacking, not sure exactly what it is
[06:20] <Jormundgand> bob2: But I'd expect the About logo on a BACKPORTED version of the OFFICIAL Firefox to have the official logo, no?
[06:20] <crimmy> Jormundgand: there's an entire debian-devel and debian-legal heritage behind those logos.
[06:20] <tjs> try installing an extension even
[06:20] <Jormundgand> crimmy: Heritage doesn't decrease suck level.
[06:20] <crimmy> mcquaid: install it and read the docs in /usr/share/doc/cdbs/why.html
[06:20] <bob2> Jormundgand: who knows what the backports people do
[06:20] <crimmy> Jormundgand: it's required by upstream, not Debian or Ubuntu themselves
[06:20] <bob2> Jormundgand: talk to them if you want them to change the logo, but the real Ubuntu packages cannot use the nice logos
[06:21] <quailster> Firefox is really unstable in Ubuntu, maybe I should just compile it my own
[06:21] <danko123456> tjs: upgrade my firefox? cant do that...
[06:21] <EircB> roll roll roll your own
[06:21] <Nula> firefox unstable in Ubuntu???
[06:21] <Nula> heh
[06:21] <danko123456> tjs, I use other browsers, but I could I guess..
[06:21] <bob2> quailster: it runs for weeks for me, have you filed a bug?
[06:21] <hitest> Fire Fox works fine for me.
[06:21] <JasonF> gah
[06:21] <jasmuz> quailster: Firefox has been great on my Ubunut
[06:21] <mcquaid> crimmy, ok thx
[06:21] <arvin> i just have one last problem, its regarding WPA encryption for wifi..i tried following this wikihowto but i cant figure out how to add wpasupplicant the instructions are very obscure
[06:21] <arvin> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WPAHowto
[06:21] <Nula> I'm sure the Ubuntu kernel inteferes with the firefox process
[06:22] <tjs> https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10681
[06:22] <tjs> this is the issue with firefox
[06:22] <quailster> yea, one time, everytime I type ' (single quote), it automatic goes to "Find"
[06:22] <tjs> you can nolonger download plugins/extensions for ubuntu hoary firefox
[06:22] <Nula> you can
[06:22] <Nula> open firefox and type about:config in the url bar
[06:23] <tjs> I did that hack
[06:23] <bob2> tjs: wasn't that fixed?
[06:23] <Nula> it worked for me
[06:23] <rg58sma> what are the plugins for
[06:23] <tjs> still didnt work
[06:23] <quailster> The thing is that I cannot recreate the situation, so I cannot report the bug
[06:23] <danko123456> tjs: I just installed it, you didnt know how, that is all....
[06:23] <rg58sma> listen a radio in webpage
[06:23] <skobel> anyone know if its possible to get a wintv pvr350 to work in ubuntu?
[06:23] <bob2> skobel: you need to find out what chipset it uses
[06:23] <danko123456> rg58sma: yeah, something like that.
[06:24] <skobel> bob2, how do you do that?
[06:24] <bob2> skobel: read the box and/or look at the physical card
[06:24] <bob2> skobel: the instruction manual might mention it, too
[06:24] <rg58sma> hhtp://www.fmrockandpop.com/v2/vivo.htm
[06:25] <levenhstein> skobel, you might want to check out http://ivtv.sourceforge.net/
[06:25] <rg58sma> hhtp://www.fmrockandpop.com/v2/vivo.htm im sorry
[06:25] <Madpilot> hi all... are the Ubuntu Backports servers down? Synaptic just went a bit odd on me...
[06:25] <jasmuz> skobel: open a console and do a lspci command....give us the results of the card
[06:25] <Jormundgand> That's not supposed to happen.
[06:25] <danko123456> rg58sma: not everything works, though....
[06:25] <Johnnyfav> I'm using wine and I'm running Steam.....the username and password comes up but when I type in the fields...it's typing in the terminal...how can I fix this?
[06:25] <skobel> 0000:02:02.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC15 MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01)
[06:26] <mcquaid> hmm this looks above me head right now
[06:26] <jasmuz> skobel:  you will have too google it ...to see what you come up with...i dont know that card
[06:26] <jasmuz> http://www.conceptlab.com/frog/ for all the geeks in the room
[06:27] <bob2> Madpilot: try asking on the forums, it's not run by any official ubuntu people
[06:27] <levenhstein> skobel, definitively check http://ivtv.sourceforge.net/ (take Chris Kennedy's version)
[06:27] <bob2> Johnnyfav: does wine support steam? http:://appdb.codeweavers.com/
[06:27] <danko123456> jasmuz: for all the evil animal torturing geeks ;)
[06:27] <MegaManX> Hi! Is there anyone familiar with cron?
[06:27] <arvin> anyone know how to configure WPA
[06:27] <bob2> Madpilot: best to just ask your question
[06:27] <jasmuz> danko123456: that is just a dead frog ! :P
[06:28] <ells> anyone in here using gtkpod
[06:28] <skobel> levenhstein, which version is that?
[06:28] <danko123456> Madpilot: read the forums about that baskports thing, they moved the server.
[06:28] <skobel> development or stable?
[06:28] <MegaManX> How would one add a cron job to run "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" automatically once every 24 hours?
[06:28] <Johnnyfav> support...it's runing fine...just can't type my password in
[06:28] <Johnnyfav> grrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[06:28] <bob2> Madpilot: that's a bad idea
[06:28] <bob2> er
[06:28] <bob2> MegaManX: that's a bad idea
[06:29] <ells> hello, anyone using gtkpod for the ipod
[06:29] <levenhstein> skobel, stable first
[06:29] <Madpilot> bob2: actually, that was the whole of my qestion! :)  I'll check the forums... thnx
[06:29] <danko123456> welcome:)
[06:29] <MegaManX> bob2, thanks for your reply. Is there a better way to keep a server uptodate without much intervention?
[06:29] <bob2> Madpilot: sorry, tab-completion screw up
[06:29] <levenhstein> skobel, I haven't followed the unstable in a while but from their mailing list it seemed like it was stable enough
[06:29] <bob2> ells: no need to keep asking over and over
[06:29] <ells> bob2, sorry, just wondering
[06:30] <ells> bob2, are you using gtkpod
[06:30] <Madpilot> bob2: no problem...
[06:30] <DekaPink> Hmmm...
[06:30] <rg58sma> hhtp://www.fmrockandpop.com/v2/vivo.htm im sorry
[06:30] <danko123456> Jormundgand: now, that should not happen;..:)
[06:30] <Jormundgand> Anyone else having trouble with X locking up when accessing the backports homepage in Firefox?
[06:30] <bob2> MegaManX: You need to keep an eye on upgrades to make sure they don't screw things up, I'd never be doing them automatically
[06:30] <skobel> ok thanks
[06:30] <danko123456> rg58sma: what about that, it dont work here...
[06:30] <bob2> Jormundgand: are you using ubuntu's firefox?
[06:30] <Jormundgand> bob2: backported 1.0.4.
[06:30] <bob2> ells: no, my music player just does usb-storage
[06:30] <DekaPink> I'm following the Unofficial Ubuntu guide, and I put in the repositories file from there... and alot of them are giving me 403 errors?
[06:30] <rg58sma> dont listen??
[06:30] <danko123456> nope.  no music.
[06:31] <MegaManX> bob2, thanks mate :). I will keep doing it from ssh remotely then ;)
[06:31] <crimmy> the versioning on that backported 1.0.4 is horrendous
[06:31] <danko123456> I dont have those plugins installed.
[06:31] <jasmuz> DekaPink: seems like the backports mirror is down
[06:31] <bob2> MegaManX: what is handy is to do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -d upgrade", which downloads all the packages for automatically
[06:31] <danko123456> just a sec, rg58sma.
[06:31] <DekaPink> jasmuz: Oh... So it isn't something stupid I'm doing, then.
[06:31] <bob2> MegaManX: then logging in and doing "sudo apt-get upgrade" manually...the packages are there, so it runs very quickly, plus you see if anything goes wrong
[06:31] <ells> bob2, just trying to hook up my ipod using it
[06:31] <ells> bob2, I reformatted using the apple tool
[06:31] <ells> bob2, want to set it up right in ubuntu
[06:32] <rg58sma> ok
[06:32] <levenhstein> MegaManX, you can look at cron-apt too
[06:32] <kestas> MegaManX: you could always do the cron script, have it output to a text file and if it exits with a nonzero status send you an email with the results
[06:32] <jasmuz> DekaPink: not at all...look for a mirror if you need something urgent or add Marillat's repositories
[06:32] <bob2> MegaManX: er, I mean, to do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -d upgrade" in cron
[06:32] <Jormundgand> I'd use vanilla Debian if their logo weren't ugly as sin.
[06:32] <Jormundgand> What is it with Debian and ugly logos?
[06:33] <kestas> bob2: doesnt cron run everything with root privs anyway? why use sudo?
[06:33] <crimmy> it's a legal reason, Jormundgand. This is not the first time bob2 and I have said as much.
[06:33] <bob2> kestas: depends if you add it to your or root's crontab
[06:33] <bob2> Jormundgand: dude, stop it
[06:33] <ells> anyone here using gtkpod
[06:33] <athlon> how to test whether my ISP block a certain port number ?
[06:33] <arvin> im trying to follow this step in making a script for WPA (step B) its asking me to make a script but i have no clue how to run or save it or even create it any tips on how to go about setting up WPA using this tutorial? http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WPAHowto
[06:33] <bob2> Jormundgand: the firefox people don't let Ubuntu or Debian use the nice logo
[06:33] <jasmuz> Jormundgand: some think debian logo is ber, its a matter of taste
[06:33] <danko123456> rg58sma: I do not think it works in linux, anyone have a working mplayer in mozilla?
[06:33] <bob2> Jormundgand: if you want ubuntu and debian to use it, talk to the firefox people
[06:33] <MegaManX> Thanks guys! very good idea ;). I've tried to add apt-get update && apt-get upgrade to the cron (crontab -e) but it looks like those are invalid commands. Does it have to be an executable script (like update.sh)?
[06:34] <DekaPink> jasmuz: I don't suppose it's urgent, was just trying to install the stuff from the guide. :)
[06:34] <MegaManX> sorry, very new to this, not Linux in general, but never played with cron :)
[06:34] <danko123456>  Jormundgand what is it with you and logos:-p
[06:34] <kestas> bob2: well how are you going to enter your password if its running as a cron script?
[06:34] <levenhstein> MegaManX, you have to give when you want the script to be ran
[06:34] <bob2> kestas: that is a good point
[06:35] <bob2> kestas: I should have said to add it to root's crontab with no use of sudo
[06:35] <bob2> MegaManX: show us the whole crontab line
[06:36] <MegaManX> levenhstein, thanks. I've tried "crobtab -e", it opens an editor, where I added 00 **** apt-get update && apt-get upgrade (I know this is a bad idea now, I'm just showing what I'm trying to accomplish)
[06:36] <bob2> MegaManX: you need spaces betwen the stars
[06:36] <levenhstein> MegaManX, yep you need spaces
[06:36] <kestas> MegaManX: yep. spaces
[06:36] <levenhstein> MegaManX, seriously apt-get install cron-apt
[06:36] <zachary> question: which file systems does ubuntu support
[06:37] <MegaManX> cool, I will give a shot, let me try ;). Thank you all!
[06:37] <danko123456> anyone have a working mozilla-mplayer plugin?
[06:37] <levenhstein> MegaManX, it's all done for you already, just edit some conf files so that it sends email and you can even force it to install the packages (not always a good idea)
[06:37] <bob2> zachary: all the mainstream ones
[06:37] <danko123456> to test something out...
[06:37] <bob2> zachary: if you're going to ask about reiser4, -> #gentoo
[06:38] <MegaManX> levenhstein, thank you, I will apt-get it ;)
[06:38] <Jormundgand> Hmm. Okay, slightly noob-tech question: when you install a program in Linux, what happens? In Windows most of the program is found in the Program Files folder; how does this compare to Linux?
[06:38] <zachary> bob2: i don't have a clue what you are speaking about
[06:38] <bob2> zachary: it supports all the maintstream linux filesystems
[06:38] <bob2> Jormundgand: depends how you install it
[06:38] <Jormundgand> bob2: Assume it's a configure make make install installation.
[06:38] <bob2> Jormundgand: depends where you configure it to install
[06:38] <zachary> bob2: i am in the market for an external harddrive and i want to be able to connect it to a ubuntu box, a winxp/2000 box, and a mac box
[06:38] <bob2> Jormundgand: they usually default to /usr/local/
[06:39] <bob2> zachary: fat32 is your only option then
[06:39] <bob2> zachary: aka vfat in linux
[06:39] <synd> zachary, fat32
[06:39] <Jormundgand> So there's no OS-defined folder where all programs are installed in the same way as Program Files.
[06:39] <zachary> now my question is, is fat32 that bad ?
[06:39] <synd> bob2, does Mac support fat32 ?
[06:39] <bob2> Jormundgand: so libraries go in /usr/local/lib/, binaries ( = programs) go in /usr/local/bin/, documentation in /usr/local/doc/...
[06:39] <bob2> synd: yes
[06:39] <bogues> are there package config files missing in Breezy?...specifically glib
[06:39] <Razor-X> synd: it can read and write from it
[06:39] <synd> bob2, with read and write?
[06:39] <synd> ah
[06:39] <bob2> Jormundgand: no, Unix systems don't normally use a single directory per program
[06:40] <bob2> synd: yes
[06:40] <Jormundgand> Okay.
[06:40] <bob2> bogues: /topic
[06:40] <bob2> Jormundgand: we have packaging systems, so there's no need to do that
[06:40] <bogues> bob2, irrelevant
[06:40] <Jormundgand> Packaging systems open their own can of worms though. :/
[06:40] <bob2> bogues: no, I mean "If you're using breezy, you should know how to a) check if the files are in ubuntu or not (ie http://packages.ubuntu.com) and b) use the bts to check if someone has reported the bug yet or not.
[06:40] <bob2> Jormundgand: how so?
[06:41] <Jormundgand> bob2: The Firefox/Thunderbird logos.
[06:41] <bob2> Jormundgand: why are you so hung up on that?
[06:41] <synd> Jormundgand, thats a licensing issue
[06:41] <bob2> Jormundgand: the firefox people are being very paranoid about their trademark
[06:41] <regeya> who what huh
[06:41] <bob2> Jormundgand: it's not really to do with packaging at all
[06:41] <Jormundgand> I just wonder where the Ubuntu builds of Firefox/Thunderbird fit into this licensing web.
[06:41] <regeya> oh, the reason you don't see firefox logos in systems like ubuntu
[06:42] <synd> Jormundgand, its very easy to change.
[06:42] <regeya> see, the ubuntu packages aren't official firefox packages
[06:42] <Jormundgand> synd: Not in the case of the About box.
[06:42] <bob2> Jormundgand: if I made a tarball that installed to /usr/Program_Files/, but fixed a bug in, Id still not be able to use the official logo
[06:42] <arvin> im trying to follow this step in making a script for WPA (step B) its asking me to make a script but i have no clue how to run or save it or even create it any tips on how to go about setting up WPA using this tutorial? http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WPAHowto
[06:42] <synd> Jormundgand, hm?
[06:42] <zachary> thanks bob2 and synd for your answers
[06:42] <bob2> zachary: np, good luck!
[06:42] <synd> zachary, no problem
[06:42] <Jormundgand> synd: Look at the Thunderbird start page, or the About box.
[06:43] <danko123456> bob2: what about this regeya guy, talking nonsense??
[06:43] <bob2> danko123456: he/she is correct
[06:43] <crimmy> that's not nonsense
[06:43] <bob2> danko123456: the ubuntu firefox packages cannot use the firefox logo because they are not "official"
[06:43] <danko123456> ok, didnt get whether it was correct...
[06:43] <bob2> because they are not tarballs and because they fix bugs
[06:43] <regeya> danko123456, ooga booga whump whunt whup!
[06:44] <danko123456> didnt get yuor whole story, I mean, I didnt get if the logos are there,, or not, works out they are not....:)
[06:44] <Nern> hey
[06:44] <Nern> okay i messed up big time
[06:44] <Jormundgand> Then we need to petition the Firefox people to make a deb package available. (P.S. The Firefox RPMs use the official logo. That's not a tarball.)
[06:44] <danko123456> I dont use firefox much+ who cares abotu a logo:) obviously some people...
[06:44] <synd> bob2, would you know how to change the Main Menu icon?
[06:45] <Nern> How can i reinstall grub into the MBR
[06:45] <kestas> Jormundgand: but that wouldnt contain the fixes
[06:45] <kestas> Jormundgand: the firefox in ubuntu is made for ubuntu
[06:45] <bob2> synd: smeg, Amaranths menu editor might be able to do it
[06:45] <bob2> Jormundgand: why do you care so much?
[06:45] <kestas> Nern: probably sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[06:46] <Jormundgand> bob2: Because I like the Firefox and Thunderbird logos - it's like a flag to me.
[06:46] <Nern> kestas, I cant even boot into linux now im stuck booting into windows
[06:46] <levander> There is a disaster backup and restore application for Linux commonly used with Ubuntu? Like Norton Ghost for Windows.
[06:46] <kestas> Nern: well then run the command I gave you
[06:46] <synd> bob2, smeg is amaranth's menu editor?
[06:46] <kestas> Nern: /dev/hda is the root partition
[06:46] <bob2> synd: yes
[06:46] <kestas> of linux
[06:46] <danko123456> anyone wanna know a bad thing that happened to me today? hehe, Ill tell you anyhow...I was installing RAM into a very tightly packaged HP case, and I managed to break the little thing that clips into place when you place the RAM in there...
[06:47] <bob2> levander: you can just use dd for that, but I believe people use things like Amanda and such, to.
[06:47] <kestas> Nern: I mean /dev/hda is the hdd you boot from
[06:47] <Nern> kestas , i cant run the comman, because im in windows right now
[06:47] <bob2> er, too.
[06:47] <bob2> danko123456: ouch
[06:47] <Nern> kestas, yes
[06:47] <kestas> Nern: well then youre going to have to make a grub floppy disk
[06:47] <synd> bob2, just checked it out. not able to change the actual black gnome foot. but can change the other icons within the menu
[06:47] <kestas> Nern: I actually wrote a howto on this
[06:47] <kestas> Nern: Ill find it 1 sec
[06:47] <Nern> kestas, i dont even have a floppy drive
[06:47] <Jormundgand> synd: There's instructions on the forum to change that.
[06:47] <danko123456> bob2: are you my computer mbo?? jj, kinda hard to get that joke, tho...
[06:47] <levander> bob2: wow! dd, wouldn't have guess you could use that for something like that, guess there had to be a reason for that program other than copying hard disk superblocks though
[06:47] <kestas> Nern: hmm I see
[06:47] <Nern> kestas, could i possibly do it from cd?
[06:47] <Jormundgand> And frankly I don't know why it's not done by default. Ubuntu's logo isn't a foot.
[06:48] <synd> Jormundgand, could you point me to it?
[06:48] <kestas> Nern: sure, using knoppix or something you could definently
[06:48] <Nern> kestas, i have a kanotix cd laying here
[06:48] <synd> Jormundgand, its a Gnome thing
[06:48] <bob2> synd: oh, I think that's a compile-time thing :/
[06:48] <kestas> Nern: well Ive never used kanotix, but yeah thatll probably work
[06:48] <Jormundgand> And the Backports project just eradicated the Sarge debs I'd installed for acroread. :)
[06:48] <bob2> danko123456: mbo?
[06:48] <bob2> levander: hah
[06:48] <danko123456> motherboard..
[06:48] <Nern> kestas, would i just run grub-install /dev/hda from one of my live cds then?
[06:48] <kestas> Nern: yup I think so
[06:48] <bob2> danko123456: ah
[06:49] <kestas> if /dev/hda is your hdd you boot fron
[06:49] <kestas> *from
[06:49] <Jormundgand> synd: Search the Tips and Tricks forum for "gnome foot".
[06:49] <Nern> kestas, k ill give it a shot
[06:49] <budhi> hi
[06:49] <Nern> kestas, yes it is
[06:49] <danko123456> acuse you said ouch, and the part of it was broken...:-///////
[06:49] <synd> Jormundgand, i found a howto to to change the Menu Bar (custom menu bar) icon, but I want the Main Menu icon changed instead.
[06:49] <Nern> kestas, ill be back
[06:49] <kestas> k
[06:49] <Jormundgand> Oh. No idea then.
[06:49] <bob2> levander: 'dd if=/dev/hda | nc 192.10.10.10 999' streams your disk across the network
[06:49] <bob2> levander: 'nc -l 999 > ./disk.image' will capture it on the other end
[06:50] <kestas> nc -l 999 | gzip > ./disk.image.gz
[06:50] <bob2> hehe
[06:50] <iceman2K> crud .. looks like i abandon ubuntu ... no way to get openmosix on it ...
[06:51] <kestas> the annoying thing about netcat is that it doesnt tell you when its done
[06:51] <danko123456> yeah, it does not have cluster support, and if that is what you are after, in the short term, perhaps that is what is best to do... iceman2K.
[06:51] <bob2> iceman2K: er, that's kinda silly
[06:51] <levander> bob2: wow, that's some cool old skool unix wizardry
[06:51] <danko123456> I mean, it seems^
[06:51] <[Spooky] > whats openmosix ?
[06:52] <iceman2K> bob2 new to linux ... wonder how well a can set up ubuntu on wifes system and remotly maintain her ..
[06:52] <bob2> iceman2K: with ssh
[06:52] <levander> kestas: shoulda used bzip for that!  higher compression
[06:52] <Jormundgand> I wonder if it's worth the Ubuntu project filing a trademark use request to the Firefox people.
[06:52] <bob2> iceman2K: or X over the network
[06:52] <MegaManX> Thanks for help guys!. It's working great. I've to run, catch you all later ;)
[06:52] <bob2> Jormundgand: that doesn't help
[06:52] <bob2> MegaManX: adios
[06:52] <iceman2K> bob2 just want he away from win98 ... to prone to virus's ... ;) ...
[06:52] <dna`> how to i import gpg keys for apt-get and what are the urls?
[06:52] <levander> bob2: you've never used that to backup and restore a disk have you?
[06:53] <MegaManX> ;)
[06:53] <iceman2K> bob2 want her away from win98
[06:53] <danko1> Jormundgand, I dont think it is, personally, not that my opinion counts...
[06:53] <bob2> levander: you need to boot from a livecd or something, you can't do it live
[06:53] <Johnnyfav> how do you run nautifus?
[06:53] <bob2> levander: I have used it to image a disk before
[06:53] <Johnnyfav> l
[06:53] <RuffianSoldier> hey bob2
[06:53] <bob2> levander: maybe I mixed up the netcat options
[06:53] <bob2> RuffianSoldier: hi
[06:53] <mcquaid> man making debs looks like a real pain
[06:53] <bob2> iceman2K: so, why would you use mosix to do that?
[06:53] <RuffianSoldier> im hooking up a new box tommorow
[06:54] <iceman2K> bob2 wonder how to set up the network .. ?
[06:54] <bob2> iceman2K: networking has nothing to do with mosix.
[06:54] <levander> bob2: yeah, you imaged a disk, but did you actually restore it, *and* use the restored system?
[06:54] <bob2> levander: don't think I did, actually
[06:54] <iceman2K> mosix set the network up ... as cluster nodes ..
[06:54] <bob2> levander: why wouldn't it work?
[06:54] <levander> bob2: you disappoint
[06:54] <danko1> hehe, cluster for a netwerok:)
[06:54] <bob2> er, ok
[06:54] <bob2> iceman2K: that's not what mosix is for
[06:55] <bob2> iceman2K: if you want to remotely admin a machine, you use ssh or X or vnc or ...
[06:55] <Johnnyfav> how do you run nautilus cd burner?
[06:55] <hajiki> i can't seem to find the mysql libaries for php? anyone help?
[06:55] <levander> bob2: no, it would prolly work, there would just be a feeling of true genuine geekiness of actually using a system that you had restored that way
[06:55] <levander> bob2: backing it up just in case isn't the same...
[06:55] <hajiki> i only see one for postgresql
[06:55] <bob2> Johnnyfav: it should pop up a cd burning window when you puy in a blank cd
[06:55] <bob2> hajiki: php4-mysql
[06:55] <bob2> levander: hah, right
[06:55] <levenhstein> hajiki: did you install php5-mysql ?
[06:55] <bob2> levander: I use rsync to backup
[06:55] <iceman2K> bob2 may put her in ubuntu .. but setting up the remote access ... there i'm lost ..
[06:56] <hajiki> php4-mysql is not in my list
[06:56] <levander> bob2: yeah, that's what I do for my oggs
[06:56] <hajiki> don't tell me i need universe for that?
[06:56] <bob2> levander: reinstalling ubuntu is quick enough that backing up / hasn't seem useful yet
[06:56] <Johnnyfav> kewl
[06:56] <Johnnyfav> tanx
[06:56] <bob2> iceman2K: install openssh-server on her machine
[06:56] <levander> there's nothing in linux like XP restore points (that I've unfortunately been playing with all weekend) is there?
[06:56] <danko123456> nautilus burn:/// as well works....
[06:56] <bob2> hajiki: yes, it is in universe
[06:56] <levenhstein> hajiki: pool/universe/p/php4-universe/php4-mysl ...
[06:56] <bob2> levander: there's LVM snapshots
[06:57] <hajiki> great...
[06:57] <danko123456> hey, while you are all here, do you like this sources.list file, altho I think I may know what the answer may look like, www.mts.net/~danb/sources.list for say, general new user usage...
[06:57] <iceman2K> bob2 let me load her the live cd ... of older version of ubuntu ...
[06:58] <cyphase> you don't need an x server running on a machine to be able to SSH in and use graphical applications, right?
[06:58] <danko123456> I am sorry, we cant let you do that...
[06:58] <RuffianSoldier> can I upgrade to breezy badger yet?
[06:58] <bob2> cyphase: right
[06:58] <synd> RuffianSoldier, you can
[06:58] <levenhstein> cyphase: no ssh -X username@host
[06:58] <paulproteus> cyphase: Thats right.
[06:58] <synd> RuffianSoldier, but its not recommended
[06:58] <RuffianSoldier> WOOT
[06:58] <paulproteus> RuffianSoldier: You can.
[06:58] <jsgotangco> RuffianSoldier, not recommended
[06:58] <bob2> cyphase: the X server only needs to run on the machine in front of you
[06:58] <cyphase> k, thanx
[06:58] <RuffianSoldier> i will wait
[06:58] <bob2> RuffianSoldier: please don't
[06:58] <paulproteus> But it's a bad idea. :)
[06:58] <RuffianSoldier> lol
[06:58] <RuffianSoldier> ok
[06:58] <cyphase> k, just making sure
[06:59] <paulproteus> cyphase: You will need basic X utilities installed, as well as X libraries.
[06:59] <paulproteus> xauth in particular.
[06:59] <cyphase> but i can kill the x server
[06:59] <cyphase> it'll be installed, just not running
[06:59] <paulproteus> cyphase: Okay. :)
[07:00] <cyphase> lol
[07:00] <paulproteus> Feel free to do apt-get remove xserver-xorg if it makes you feel l33ter. ;)
[07:00] <cyphase> lol
[07:00] <cyphase> yea
[07:00] <samuel> sup all
[07:01] <danko123456> I feel pretty l33t about my sources.list file...
[07:01] <danko123456> :-p
[07:01] <samuel> anyone know if there is a way to use ethereal without enabling the root account?
[07:01] <paulproteus> danko123456: What, does it just point to localhost?
[07:01] <paulproteus> samuel: sudo ethereal
[07:01] <bob2> danko123456: that's the default with universe and multiverse enabled
[07:01] <bob2> which is fine
[07:01] <samuel> paulproteus, nice.... thanks
[07:01] <bob2> they're not enabled by default, tho, so that people need to concisouly realise what they are
[07:02] <paulproteus> samuel: Sure thing.  sudo is your friend to run arbitrary programs as root.
[07:02] <danko123456> paulproteus: no, cause I posted something about it, and noone answered, and I am an impatient little linux user:)
[07:02] <paulproteus> danko123456: Ah ;)
[07:02] <paulproteus> "Little" I gathered from the number-infested nick ;).
[07:02] <danko123456> bob2: great, that nicely summarizes my thoughts so I can use them better.
[07:02] <dna`> how do i import gpg keys for apt-get packages?
[07:02] <danko123456> paulproteus: you know what, that was the first nick I used ever in IRC(except when I was like 12) and it is cause there is a danko...
[07:03] <samuel> paulproteus, im going to read up on the difference between su and sudo... thanks again!
[07:03] <bob2> dna`: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-key <keyid> ; gpg --export <keyid> | sudo apt-key add -
[07:03] <sjohnson> Question:  Grub won't boot off my windows partition which is on my 2nd SATA controller channel
[07:03] <sjohnson> is it impossible to do this?
[07:03] <paulproteus> samuel: The wiki article should be helpful.
[07:03] <jsgotangco> anyone here configured moin with apache?
[07:03] <bob2> sjohnson: is windows willing to boot off the second disk these days?
[07:03] <sjohnson> i can mount the partition fine, or boot off it if i switch the sata cables around so it thinks windows is the 1st
[07:03] <warty> bob2 well got her system on the live cd ..
[07:03] <dna`> bob2, i wish i know the keyid though :)
[07:03] <bob2> dna`: the apt error message mentions it
[07:04] <samuel> jsgotangco, i have, moin wiki you mean?
[07:05] <jsgotangco> samuel, yeah moin wiki exactly, im just installed it and dont know what to do next
[07:05] <synd> anyone know how to change the gnome foot icon located at the bottom right of my screenshot here -> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/pmartin245/6c004d9c.jpg
[07:05] <synd> bottom left
[07:05] <synd> i mean
[07:05] <soe> <------------lookin 4 indonesian
[07:05] <samuel> jsgotangco, well... i dont exactly remember, im not using it any more, lemme see...
[07:06] <bob2> soe: this isn't a chat channel, sorry
[07:06] <soe> ne beautiful gurl wanna chat with me?
[07:06] <synd> haha.
[07:06] <bob2> soe: sorry, you're in the wrong channel
[07:06] <danko123456> lol...:)
[07:06] <synd> aint gonna find too many girls in the #ubuntu channel : )
[07:07] <bob2> synd: there's no foot on the bottom right of that screenshot
[07:07] <hhurtta> try #ubuntu_is_sexy :)
[07:07] <paulproteus> bob2: Left.  Bottom left.
[07:07] <synd> bob2, i correct myself : p
[07:07] <bob2> oh, duh me
[07:07] <warty> cool ubuntu likes her sound and video ...
[07:07] <kakalto> lol, hhurtta
[07:07] <samuel> jsgotangco, http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnInstalling
[07:07] <synd> corrected(
[07:08] <jsgotangco> samuel, thanks
[07:08] <gibbie> any XFCE4 users know how to get the taskbar back at the bottom of the screen?  Mine somehow dissapeared.
[07:08] <dna`> bob2, keyid 1F41B907, thanks it worked :] 
[07:08] <samuel> jsgotangco, thats quite an easy one to install, you shouldnt have problems
[07:08] <bob2> dna`: np
[07:08] <levander> bob2: you back up your whole system? or just your user data with rsync?
[07:08] <jsgotangco> samuel, im using ubuntu repos
[07:09] <bob2> levander: /etc, /home and 'dpkg --get-selections'
[07:09] <dna`> now if someone who uses universe and multiverse can email me his sources.list :(
[07:09] <bob2> dna`: read /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:09] <levander> bob2: wow! you are full of useful tips! i didn't even know about dpkg --get-selections
[07:09] <bob2> dna`: it explains how to enable them
[07:09] <dna`> bob2, mine is damaged
[07:10] <bob2> levander: hah, it is handy
[07:10] <levander> bob2: you think you could restore a system just from those three things?
[07:10] <bob2> dna`: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted universe multiverse
[07:10] <bob2> levander: the bits I care about, yeah
[07:10] <bob2> levander: (have done so in the past)
[07:10] <dna`> bob2, thats the only line i need?
[07:10] <levander> bob2: i'm trying to think, can't think of anything important not in those three....
[07:10] <Lestat_> wenaz
[07:11] <bob2> dna`: yes
[07:11] <bob2> levander: sometimes I wish I'd backed up /var
[07:11] <dna`> bob2, i love you
[07:11] <Lestat_> how could i use LILO instead of Grub???
[07:11] <levander> bob2: when you backed up /etc, you were able to do a flat restore of /etc?  Just a restore, didn't have to go in and tweak things?
[07:12] <samuel> bob2, do you still use debian?
[07:12] <bob2> Lestat_: why?
[07:12] <levander> bob2: yeah, i know /var's got my mysql db's and subversion repositories
[07:12] <bob2> samuel: yes
[07:12] <Lestat_> bevause i prefer lilo..
[07:12] <paulproteus> samuel: I do, too, and I've spotted him on #debian. :)
[07:12] <samuel> paulproteus, i do miss debian...
[07:12] <bob2> levander: I tend to just re-install, and copy the few config files that matter (basically just postfix and tinc's) over.
[07:13] <paulproteus> samuel: Hmm?  Did it go away somewhere?
[07:13] <paulproteus> Or perhaps stop dating you?
[07:13] <samuel> hahahaha
[07:13] <danko123456> Ive spotted me even on #debian:)
[07:14] <levander> bob2: yeah, my plan for restoring /etc is I use an svk repository to store history (versions).  If I ever have to do a restore "sudo svk log /etc", then i'll just look through the log looking at diffs and comments I made about what I changed
[07:14] <dna`> is there a bot in here like dpkg of #debian ?
[07:14] <synd> there should be a bot in here named apt-get
[07:14] <levander> bob2: of course first i need to figure out how to mirror my svk repository into svn, so that when I back up svn repostitories... etc.
[07:14] <rics> hi
[07:14] <nicedreams> Can I do desktop sharing with TightVNC server to share my fluxbox desktop and access it from my windows box?
[07:14] <bob2> dna`: ubotu
[07:15] <anathema> hey bob2
[07:15] <dna`> word
[07:15] <bob2> nicedreams: yeah
[07:15] <bob2> anathema: hi
[07:15] <anathema> isnt there a way to alter the grub config to make windows think its the first drive
[07:15] <danko123456> !ubotu
[07:15] <bob2> levander: heh
[07:15] <ubotu> danko123456: Bugger all, i dunno
[07:15] <danko123456> nice:)
[07:15] <anathema> 0x80 or somethign
[07:15] <anathema> any idea?
[07:15] <danko123456> I never knew this...
[07:15] <levander> so bob2, what's your tip for an IRC client?
[07:15] <danko123456> !hi
[07:15] <nicedreams> bob2, can you please tell me how?  I've been googling for hours trying to figure it out
[07:15] <ubotu> hello, danko123456
[07:15] <bob2> levander: yeah, I tried keeping /etc/ in arch, but I was too lazy to commit everything I did
[07:15] <bob2> levander: irssi-text to the max.
[07:15] <danko123456> yes!
[07:15] <danko123456> !restrictedformats
[07:15] <ubotu> danko123456: I give up, what is it?
[07:15] <danko123456> ok, sorry, just testing
[07:15] <bob2> nicedreams: I've never used vnc, sorry
[07:15] <synd> !help
[07:15] <anathema> any idea bob2 ?
[07:16] <synd> !where can i find google
[07:16] <ubotu> synd: I don't know, could you explain it?
[07:16] <kakalto> lol
[07:16] <levander> bob2: it's not that bad after you get used to it.  svk searches the file system for files added, and will auto-add them to the repository (when you tell it to).  that makes it a lot easier.  svn doesn't do that.
[07:16] <bob2> anathema: I'm pretty sure altering the grub config would not be enough, windows will do it's own device probing long after grub exists
[07:16] <synd> !status
[07:16] <bob2> see, this is why I was anti-bot
[07:16] <levander> bob2: i'm trying erc (emacs irc client), i'm liking it pretty good
[07:16] <bob2> levander: ah, yeah
[07:16] <synd> !seen zevin
[07:17] <ubotu> i haven't seen 'zevin', synd
[07:17] <anathema> thats not the issue though is it ? in lilo it worked if you changed your lilo config to 'simulate' the face that the drive was 0x80..ie, first drive
[07:17] <bob2> levander: I tried that, but I use emacs21, so I couldn't keep my irc client always on in screen
[07:17] <bob2> anathema: wow, that worked?
[07:17] <synd> !seen nalioth
[07:17] <anathema> in lilo it used to
[07:17] <bob2> anathema: then grub mappings would probably work, too
[07:17] <bob2> synd: please use /msg
[07:17] <anathema> ok, where do i look on how to do that in grub
[07:17] <anathema> man grub doesnt say shit
[07:17] <synd> bob2, k
[07:17] <levander> bob2: don't know what you're talking about, i'm using emacs21 and erc right now
[07:17] <bob2> anathema: /boot/grub/devices.map or so
[07:18] <danko123456> bob2: sorry, its hjust new to us...
[07:18] <danko123456> well use it wisely, I promise myself...
[07:18] <levander> bob2: oh, don't use the screen program, so wouldn't know about that problem
[07:18] <bob2> levander: I keep my irc client running inside GNU Screen all the time
[07:18] <bob2> levander: right
[07:18] <danko123456> let us teach it to be polite, tho, not like dpkg...can we read about it somewhere, bob2?
[07:18] <levander> bob2: why? for logging?
[07:18] <anathema> the devices.map changes what grub thinks hd0 and stuff is
[07:18] <bob2> levander: yeah
[07:18] <anathema> but when you boot the bios gives each drive a hex #
[07:19] <anathema> 0x80 beeing the first, 0x81 second etc
[07:19] <anathema> in lilo the command used was bios=0x80
[07:19] <anathema> just wondering how to do this in grub
[07:20] <bob2> danko123456: the website is http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/, but I don't know of any documentation for it
[07:21] <iceman2K> anyone know the minimun system for ubunto
[07:21] <iceman2K> ubuntu
[07:21] <bob2> danko123456: at it's simplest, '/msg ubotu foo is bar' tells it to store "bar" as the data for the key "foo", so "ubotu: foo" in the channel will print bar.
[07:21] <synd> iceman2K, 128MB RAM
[07:21] <danko123456> bob2: can we teach it, does the site say that?
[07:21] <anathema> and using map in lilo etc
[07:21] <danko123456> aha
[07:21] <levander> is so funny how some channels on freenode, ppl go in there just to put down ppl, can't believe yall were saying #debian has a bot they've programmed to be rude
[07:21] <bob2> iceman2K: depends what you want to do
[07:21] <synd> iceman2K, it can be lower but i dont think its usable
[07:21] <danko123456> Ill try later, save your post.
[07:22] <SJChung> iceman2K, do you mean minimun install?
[07:22] <danko123456> if you can understand my lazy translation of my thoughts into sentences,.
[07:22] <levander> #ubuntu and ubuntuforums is actually reason i stuck with ubuntu after initial trial, better support on this distro
[07:22] <iceman2K> bob2 got a old old 486/100 maybe 64 meg ram .. like to put it up for my kids ..
[07:22] <Madpilot> quick Ubuntu & hardware question: anyone ever had trouble setting up a CDDVD burner?
[07:22] <bob2> iceman2K: gnome will be extramely painful
[07:22] <synd> iceman2K, xfce or fluxbox
[07:22] <levander> Madpilot: with linux kernel 2.6, shouldn't be much to it
[07:22] <bob2> iceman2K: fluxbox will be ok, but things like firefox and openoffice will crawl
[07:23] <danko123456> levander: I dont understand your point about my statement...
[07:23] <Madpilot> levander: thnx, don't have a burner now, know zip about them, but there's a sale on nice Pioneer ones...
[07:23] <synd> iceman2K, you ought to look at damn small linux for a system like that..
[07:23] <levander> danko123456: what point?
[07:23] <iceman2K> bob2 even a old distro would be ok ... ? looking at linuxiso.org for 386 distros ..
[07:23] <Quest-Master> iceman2K: I'd recommend a lightweight desktop overall.. XFCE as DE, Dillo as web browser, AbiWord for word processing, etc etc.
[07:23] <danko123456> I have a question for bob2 about it, tho, when he is less bombarded with questions.
[07:23] <DekaPink> Are there any good places to get gnome themes?
[07:23] <levander> Madpilot: i'd give it a try, worked painlessly for me, and graveman is a nice gui burning tool
[07:23] <danko123456> levander: is so funny how some channels on freenode, ppl go in there just to put down ppl, can't believe yall were saying #debian has a bot they've programmed to be rude
[07:23] <Quest-Master> DekaPink: http://www.gnome-look.org
[07:23] <synd> DekaPink, www.gnome-look.org
[07:23] <bob2> Madpilot: so, a little story: I decided to buy an external dvd writer a few weeks ago, and did no research.  so I got home, and plugged it into my ubuntu laptop and tried to use cdrecord.  no luck.  tried to use dvdrecord.  no luck.  inserted a blank dvd, and nautilus popped up a window.  dragged some files to it.  selected "write to disk, and got a burnt dvd.
[07:24] <DekaPink> Quest-Master, synd: Thank you. :D
[07:24] <bob2> iceman2K: that doesn't matter
[07:24] <Quest-Master> DekaPink: no problem. :)
[07:24] <levander> danko123456: what don't you understand about that?
[07:24] <danko123456> please rephrase
[07:24] <levander> danko123456: oh!
[07:24] <Madpilot> bob2: heh... so, when it arrives I'll try Nautilus first! :)
[07:24] <levander> danko123456: i was talking about couldn't believe #debian channel, not couldn't believe you, sorry
[07:24] <iceman2K> bob2 how about a celeron 333 ... maybe 128 meg ram ?
[07:24] <DekaPink> :D
[07:25] <danko123456> nono, I know, please explain all points made there. pm if you want...
[07:25] <bob2> iceman2K: firefox and openoffice will be ok on that, fluxbos will fly
[07:25] <iceman2K> bob2 have to build it from a scratch mb i got laying aroung
[07:25] <crimmy> iceman2K: the amount of ram is really the critical point. 128 is fine.
[07:25] <Madpilot> levander: thnx, off to load down my Visa card... ;)
[07:25] <DekaPink> I hope nobody minds my cluelessness... I just got on Ubuntu.
[07:25] <synd> iceman2K, stick with fluxbox and xfce
[07:25] <synd> i dont like gnome unless its on a 256MB, really 512 or better
[07:25] <levander> Madpilot: the command line cdrecord takes maybe an hour or a little more to figure out, graveman, nautilus did it by just guessing what a couple of buttons do
[07:26] <danko123456> crimmy: 128 fine, hey? I had 64 earlier(was hoping for a sum of 192 till I brokeone of the slots:)  and now it is 128, but still exactly same speed...
[07:26] <levander> Madpilot: ttat's prolly money wisely spent, cd burners come in handy
[07:26] <danko123456> art.gnome.org too DekaPink noone minds.
[07:26] <iceman2K> humm whats minimul harddrive ? i wonder ..
[07:26] <Madpilot> levander: guessing on a GUI is my style too! command lines are... meh... best avoided when possible...
[07:27] <synd> danko123456, theres not much noticeable difference bwteeen 128 and 192
[07:27] <bob2> iceman2K: the default install takes 1.8GB
[07:27] <JDahl_> iceman2K, I would think you need atleast 2Gb
[07:27] <iceman2K> bob2 1.8 gig ... wow .. that include swap ..
[07:27] <danko123456> levander: nono, I know, please explain all points made in that statement, I know it was not against me, I just want to know what you mean, so I can talk to you about it, interesting topic to me. pm if you want...
[07:27] <danko123456> synd, you are just trying to make me feel better:)
[07:28] <synd> danko123456, : D
[07:28] <JDahl_> iceman2K, I had a 4GB partition set aside for it on my laptop, and I dont have enough space for large dist-upgrades
[07:28] <Lestat_> danko123456 levander: nono, I know, please explain all points made in that statement, I know it was not against me, I just want to know what you mean, so I can talk to you about it, interesting topic to me. pm if you want...<--- what are ayou waitingfor???
[07:28] <bob2> iceman2K: no
[07:28] <iceman2K> no looking to upgrade .. just a systems a 7 and 5 year old can start playing with ...
[07:29] <levander> did those two pms i send just work or did whole channel see those?
[07:29] <danko123456> Lestat_: now I cant understand you...
[07:29] <synd> iceman2K, ive got an old athlon 1.3 ghz box i can give you : )
[07:29] <thakat> Hello.  How is everyone tonight?
[07:29] <levander> Madpilot: command lines are better when you're using the same command over and over and over, i think
[07:29] <danko123456> worked fine, levander.
[07:29] <danko123456> thakat: I am fine, thanks.
[07:30] <levander> Madpilot: its worth figuring out a command line for something you want to do that commonly.  Burning a disc is only occasional
[07:30] <iceman2K> synd ... i'd take it for the kids ... wife system is a 1.1 celeron ..
[07:30] <synd> iceman2K, it stripped it down before i found out about ubuntu or linux for that matter. i deemed it "unusable"
[07:30] <iceman2K> i'm on a p 4  2.8
[07:30] <Lestat_> well this is because... i meant nothing.. and i think that the other guy was only joken.. hedoesnt have any point of view.. danko123456
[07:30] <iceman2K> synd ... whare you live ?
[07:30] <levander> danko123456: why was that statement I made so interesting?
[07:30] <synd> iceman2K, kentucky
[07:30] <danko123456> haha, Lestat_random intrustion, then:-p
[07:30] <danko123456> levander: did you get my replies, tho?
[07:31] <thakat> I'm sure this question has been asked a lot, but could someone pm me with a way to get the DVD player working?  A friend and I are both having the same prob.
[07:31] <levander> danko123456: no, i'm in a new irc client....
[07:31] <danko123456> cause I am personally interested in why #debian is as is....
[07:31] <iceman2K> synd little far ... build a bare system for some kids ... and donate it to them
[07:31] <Lestat_> danko123456 jajajaj and we start again..
[07:31] <bob2> thakat: you need to explain what isn't working
[07:31] <synd> iceman2K, ive got two old towers sitting here..
[07:31] <bob2> thakat: e.g. can you mount dvds?  can you play unencrypted ones?
[07:31] <anathema> ok bob..found the thing in grub
[07:31] <Madpilot> levander: true enough WRT command lines...
[07:31] <levander> anybody know if emacs erc supports private messages?
[07:31] <synd> iceman2K, a celeron 600 and an athlon 1.3, the athlon has DDR
[07:32] <anathema> bob2: map (0x81) (0x80) map (0x80) (0x81)
[07:32] <bob2> anathema: neat
[07:32] <anathema> the map commands beeing on their own line
[07:32] <anathema> think that will work ?
[07:32] <anathema> haha
[07:32] <iceman2K> synd add small harddrives ... and donate them to some kids ... some kids never see a pc ... which sucks ..
[07:32] <synd> iceman2K, thats a good idea.
[07:32] <levander> danko123456: #debian's prolly just like that cause communities develop personalities.
[07:32] <Lestat_> iceman2K synd add small harddrives ... and donate them to some kids ... some kids never see a pc ... which sucks ..<-------------jajajajajaj
[07:32] <synd> iceman2K, introduce them to Ubuntu
[07:33] <danko123456> levander: I have a more developed theory, thanks.
[07:33] <synd> :x
[07:33] <levander> danko123456: think that's more of a sociological / human behavior question than anything else
[07:33] <DekaPink> Where's the skin folder for XMMS? :3
[07:33] <synd> Lestat_, ?
[07:33] <bob2> thakat: please don't /msg people
[07:33] <iceman2K> synd ... knew a pc shop in colorado.. they took in used unwanted systems .. got them working and raffelled them to kids in schools ...
[07:33] <bob2> DekaPink: ~/.xmms/Skins/
[07:33] <Nern> okay
[07:33] <Lestat_> nothing.. im only reading and laughing synd
[07:33] <Nern> i need help
[07:33] <synd> iceman2K, oh, wow
[07:33] <Nern> i have overwritten grub in the mbr
[07:33] <danko123456> Lestat_: you should stick with nodding and smiling:-p
[07:33] <Nern> and i need to get it reinstalled
[07:34] <bob2> Nern: how did that happen?
[07:34] <thakat> ok
[07:34] <danko123456> he instaklled windows over ubuntu
[07:34] <bob2> thakat: please don't /msg people
[07:34] <Lestat_> isn ti?
[07:34] <levander> danko123456: it's an old stereotype with some of the computer geeks, usually applied to dba's, that people don't like explaining stuff to everybody
[07:34] <levander> danko123456: that's what I think of when in ##java and #php
[07:34] <iceman2K> synd was cool ... yea install ubuntu and offer them to a school as raffel to needy kids ...
[07:34] <Nern> bob2: I was going to install FreeBSD on a different partition, but the installation failed, but it had already overwritten the mbr
[07:34] <danko123456> levander: it is deeper than that on #debian... but, I dont wanna go into it more now, I have to wait till issues get sorted out.
[07:34] <kestas> Nern: what happened when you tried to do grub-install /dev/hda?
[07:35] <bob2> Nern: get an ubuntu livecd
[07:35] <Lestat_> iceman2K synd was cool ... yea install ubuntu and offer them to a school as raffel to needy kids ...<-------it isnt a bad idea..
[07:35] <Nern> kestas: when i tried grub-install /dev/hda it said that the drive was read only
[07:35] <kestas> use the spare machine as an openbsd syslog machine
[07:35] <Nern> bob2: yeah thats what i was thinking
[07:36] <kestas> Nern: then you were probably trying to install it to the cd
[07:36] <iceman2K> Lestat_ good thing ideas alone cant be copyrighted ...
[07:36] <rj`> anyone awake?
[07:36] <kestas> Nern: did you try /dev/hdb, hdc, and hdd?
[07:36] <bob2> Nern: you can use the ubuntu install cd, too
[07:36] <bob2> rj`: you can see tht people are talking in here...
[07:36] <rj`> i'am trying to configure ftp -- can anyone try to ftp to ftp.dawnshosting.com and see if it connects to proftpd
[07:36] <danko123456> Lestat_: we see all this text you paste in, if you use nickName: and just the part after the arrow, we will, and the nickName, know what you are talking about.
[07:36] <Nern> bob2: yeah i tried to do it with the ubuntu cd it wouldnt work
[07:36] <Lestat_> yeah.. but i coudnt see the copyright mark on your sentense iceman2K
[07:36] <rj`> wrong channel bob2 :(
[07:36] <dle> Hello.  I'm looking for info re a kernel panic on my hoary machine.  the kernel that panic'd on a reboot is 2.6.10-5-386.  It went as http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2005-May/033508.html on subs. hoary for breezy.  Has anyone else experienced this? Do you know what the problem is?
[07:37] <bob2> Nern: it will work
[07:37] <kestas> rj` not getting anything
[07:37] <Nern> bob2: what steps should i take
[07:37] <bob2> Nern: you need to walk through the install until you get to the partitioning stage
[07:37] <iceman2K> Lestat_ not that ... just my following a pc shops good intent
[07:37] <Nern> bob2: k
[07:37] <danko123456> rj`: yes it works.
[07:37] <kestas> Nern: it shouldnt say /dev/hda is read only
[07:37] <kestas> /dev/hda must be the CD
[07:37] <bob2> Nern: then hit "alt-f2" to get a terminal, then run "chroot /target", the run "grub-install /dev/hda"
[07:37] <Lestat_> ja.. ok...
[07:37] <kestas> bob2: thats what he just did
[07:37] <rj`> see it works for some and not for others :(
[07:37] <bob2> Nern: assuming /dev/hda is the first hard drive.  if it's scsi or sata, use /dev/sda
[07:37] <danko123456> rj`: http://pastebin.com/292502
[07:37] <bob2> rj`: you're behind a "firewall"?
[07:38] <kestas> rj` I can connect
[07:38] <rj`> bob2: a smootwall firewall
[07:38] <dle> also as in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=136488 .  If anyone's following. :)
[07:38] <rj`> kestas: cool thanks
[07:38] <bob2> rj`: then fix it
[07:39] <Nern> bob2: ok ill give that a shot
[07:39] <iceman2K> lol ... could install beowulf linux on the 486 ... lol
[07:39] <kestas> Nern: fyi thats what you just did, using a ubuntu CD makes no diff
[07:40] <nbk> hi, are there any good (i.e. working) repositiries for all of the win32 codecs and such
[07:40] <bob2> nbk: just get the .deb from christian marillat's archive
[07:41] <jorgp_> bob2: location of that archive?
[07:42] <bob2> debian.video.free.fr or something
[07:42] <anathema> bob2, just to let you know, that map command worked
[07:42] <bob2> anathema: rock
[07:42] <anathema> ive got an email a mile long to email to ubuntuguide :D
[07:43] <anathema> such as making a .deb from the java, this windows thing..1 million others
[07:43] <anathema> hehe
[07:44] <danko123456> bob2: what is the package called, w32codecs?
[07:44] <bob2> yes
[07:44] <danko123456> ok, follow-up:) how do you find out if that package is installed if you cant apt-cache search for it?
[07:44] <bob2> dpkg -l blah
[07:45] <bob2> if the first two letters are ii, it's installed
[07:45] <danko123456> thank you as always...
[07:45] <Lestat_> how coul i turn on the root acount on my ubuntu system???
[07:45] <danko123456> ok, it is, I thought it would be...
[07:45] <Tezkah> does anyone else use GNUooglinux
[07:45] <bob2> Lestat_: why?
[07:46] <bob2> Lestat_: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[07:46] <danko123456> Tezkah: google does not know of that.
[07:46] <Tezkah> its the Google Linux distro!
[07:46] <Tezkah> its just in double secret beta
[07:46] <bob2> #conspiracy-theories, please
[07:46] <danko123456> I heard of that...meh...
[07:46] <Tezkah> comes standard with the Google Browser
[07:47] <nbk> bob2: should I use the woody wource?
[07:47] <nbk> source
[07:47] <bob2> nbk: doesn't matter
[07:47] <danko123456> bob2: quiet enough now for a fairly non-Ubuntu related question, but I think a good question for you...
[07:47] <nbk> thx
[07:47] <danko123456> ? should be at the end...
[07:48] <bob2> heh
[07:48] <danko123456> ok. well, pretty long answer too...
[07:48] <danko123456> :-/
[07:48] <bob2> that was an implied "what is your question?"
[07:49] <danko123456> ok,... the question is...tell me a summary of your opinion of #debian.
[07:49] <danko123456> see that is very open...
[07:49] <Lestat_> im gonna get back to knoppix..
[07:50] <bob2> Lestat_: how come?
[07:50] <kakalto> knoppix wouldn't boot on my computer :((
[07:50] <bob2> danko123456: it would be long, rambling and unpopular
[07:50] <Lestat_> am reinstalling it..
[07:50] <danko123456> well, I erad pastebins, and other forms of text, I really am interested in your opinion.
[07:50] <danko123456> anagram it, dont make me type:)
[07:50] <iceman2K> knoppix is ok.. seems that ubuntu is a little better .. and easier to work with ..
[07:51] <bob2> danko123456: /msg?
[07:51] <danko123456> off course, I have no objetion to those ever.
[07:51] <danko123456> Lestat_: he meant why are you leaving Ubuntu...
[07:51] <Lestat_> a ok..
[07:52] <k4rp0r> does anyone know is there a winmx for linux?
[07:52] <Lestat_> m well i cant adapt me to this..
[07:52] <kakalto> because of GNOME?
[07:52] <kakalto> or just the whole hting?
[07:52] <kakalto> *thing
[07:52] <nbk> bob2: so can I pretty much use any debian source without probs?
[07:52] <[Spooky] > k4rp0r: you mean the p2p program ?
[07:53] <[Spooky] > k4rp0r: no pm...
[07:53] <bob2> nbk: no, you shouldn't use any
[07:53] <bob2> nbk: for that single package (w32codecs), it doesn't matter
[07:54] <k4rp0r> Spooky:yes p2p, could u tell me the command to get it
[07:54] <nbk> bob2: ok just making sure, later
[07:54] <danko123456> winmx does not exist.
[07:54] <danko123456> what technology does it work on, gnutella?
[07:55] <ilba7r> i was wondering where to install windows fonts like Times?
[07:55] <[Spooky] > k4rp0r: look at their homepage, and if its not for Linux, the try use it with Wine
[07:55] <Shuddertrix> DekaPink: drag and drop the tar files the gnome themes come in on the Themes preferences panel.. don't know the exact menu link, sorry, i'm in kde
[07:55] <k4rp0r> Spooky:ok
[07:55] <bob2> ilba7r: install the msttcorefonts package and you'll get it automatically
[07:56] <Shuddertrix> ilba7r: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[07:56] <danko123456> ilba7r: enable multiverse, sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[07:56] <[Spooky] > danko1: problaby Kaaza :)
[07:56] <ilba7r> thanx bob 2 aand shudd and adanko
[07:56] <danko123456> nice. I win.
[07:56] <stormie`> anyone here rite now ?
[07:56] <danko123456> hey, sorry aboiut the nick thing, guys.
[07:56] <stormie`> i need some help .. of the usb modem .
[07:56] <Shuddertrix> danko123456: nobody wins.
[07:56] <ilba7r> thanks all se ya
[07:56] <danko123456> well, I am joiking, though:)
[07:57] <stormie`> aztech turbo 100 works on ubuntu ??
[07:57] <danko123456> [Spooky] : why would you recommend that solution:)
[07:57] <danko123456> I would recommend like, installing alinux program that does the same thing.
[07:57] <[Spooky] > danko123456: because i dunno what protocol it uses...
[07:57] <DekaPink> Shuddertrix: Thank you. :D
[07:58] <danko123456> aha, yeah...
[08:00] <SJChung> hi, I've install python-nautilus and I run /usr/share/doc/python-nautilus/examples/background-image.py  but "ImportError: No module named nautilus"  ...Does anyone have the same problem?
[08:00] <danko123456> stormie`: tried google?
[08:00] <Shuddertrix> it
[08:00] <WX> anyone here willing to help me get mod_perl running on apache2?
[08:00] <WX> i've gotten it installed and loaded
[08:01] <WX> just can't get it to work on a site
[08:01] <stormie`> danko123456 : yep .. some says " yes " some says " no "
[08:01] <WX> a VirtualHost site
[08:01] <levander> to completely copy a CD, should I just be able to drag and drop the contents or the source CD from one nautilus window to another window representing the blank CD?  Or, is there extra, hidden stuff on the CD?
[08:01] <danko123456> stormie`: how about: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ptopic43004.html ?
[08:01] <danko123456> levander: what kind of cd?
[08:01] <stormie`> hold on
[08:02] <danko123456> k, Ill be here, not that I know how to help with your issue:)
[08:02] <levander> like I wanna make copies of my XP Corporate install CD, so that multiple people can use it to install on workstations at work?  should the above method work to copy it?
[08:02] <[Spooky] > stormie`: did you like what you got ? :)
[08:02] <stormie`> [Spooky]  : don understand !
[08:02] <levander> and, of course we have a corporate license, so it would be legal
[08:02] <[Spooky] > stormie`: the ctcp version you did on me...
[08:02] <stormie`> danko123456 : i din install my driver yet ... i'm still finding for a driver installer
[08:03] <stormie`> [Spooky]  : oh , sorry .. i just check on it .. can it help me or not . ?
[08:03] <JDahl_> WX, I dont know how much help this, but check two things: that perl scripts are allowed in your current directory (e.g., AllowOverride=True and .htaccess), and also check Mime-types, so that perl is recognized as a script
[08:04] <WX> how do i setup the mime-type?
[08:04] <dell500> does anyone here know if the fglrx driver works off the xorg.conf or the XF86Config-4??
[08:05] <JDahl_> WX, /etc/mime*, but normally you shouldnt have to change that.. it's more likely that perl scripts aren't allowed in the current directory
[08:05] <dell500> i'm in hoary and i'm using xorg
[08:05] <crimmy> dell500: then it'll use the former
[08:05] <dell500> k
[08:05] <dell500> so does that mean i should copy all the ATI flgrx stuff over to the xorg??
[08:06] <crimmy> fresh install or dist-upgrade?
[08:06] <dle> levander: I don't think that'll work.  I tried with an ISO and ended up with a CD containing the ISO file.
[08:07] <dell500> crimmy, dist-upgrade
[08:07] <dle> dell500: the ATi flgrx stuff is a headache. :)
[08:07] <dell500> i know, but i was so close last time i messed with it
[08:07] <crimmy> dell500: if you dist-upgrade, the fglrx settings should be preserved
[08:07] <dell500> i had 3d accel working, but the gui for messing wit hthe res wasn't working
[08:07] <dle> dell500: please keep notes and post them somewhere. :)
[08:07] <WX> anyone here have mod_perl working with apache2?
[08:07] <dell500> might work this time
[08:08] <dell500> crimmy, koo
[08:08] <Madpilot>  is there any way to turn the system sound volume down? I can turn it on and off, but I want it on but *quieter*...
[08:09] <levander> dle: lol, i'm not going to drag the iso itself, but I'll open a source CD with nautilus, and drag all the files on the CD to a nautilu window representing the blank CD
[08:09] <dell500> just changed the driver from "ati" to "fglrx" last time i did this, it messed up
[08:09] <dell500> time for a reboot, gonna try again :)
[08:10] <dle> levander: Hrm.  I plead ignorance, I don't know whether that'll work.
[08:10] <creyton> im having a error pop up everytime i log onto ubuntu this is what it says: Could not look up internet address for ubuntu.
[08:10] <creyton> This will prevent GNOME from operating correctly.
[08:10] <creyton> It may be possible to correct the problem by adding ubuntu to the file /etc/hosts.
[08:11] <bob2> creyton: someone hosed /etc/hosts
[08:11] <creyton> what am i supposed to do
[08:11] <bob2> creyton: the first line should say: 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost ubuntu
[08:11] <creyton> i cant to seem to find the folder
[08:11] <creyton> in etc
[08:11] <bob2> creyton: it's a file
[08:11] <bob2> if you don't have /etc/hosts, something is very very wron
[08:12] <creyton> i dont have it....
[08:12] <Nern> yeah that didnt work
[08:12] <creyton> all i have is Hal then hotplug theres not hosts
[08:13] <jacquesmerde> why does ubuntu let me put cds INTO my drives, but not take them OUT of the drives? greedy ubuntu!
[08:13] <creyton> ok nevermind
[08:13] <creyton> i found it
[08:13] <creyton> what am i supposed to do with the file
[08:13] <Nern> jacquesmerde: you have do eject the cds from the icon on the desktop
[08:13] <bob2> creyton: I told you
[08:13] <bob2> 16:11:27           bob2 | creyton: the first line should say: 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost ubuntu
[08:13] <dell500> alrighty, so now my screen is kinda wierd
[08:13] <dle> dell500: wierd how?
[08:14] <Nern> jacquesmerde: this isto prevent you from accidently ejecting it
[08:14] <creyton> ok thanks alot bob
[08:14] <jacquesmerde> Nern, that doesnt work
[08:14] <Nern> jacquesmerde: right clicking and telling it to eject doesnt work?
[08:14] <bob2> creyton: I'd be looking at why you don't have one, though
[08:14] <dell500> dle, um... well there is a big fat line in the middle of the screen, which shows the left part of my screen that is cut off
[08:14] <dell500> make sense?
[08:14] <bob2> maybe the disk is failing
[08:14] <jacquesmerde> Nern, eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument
[08:14] <dle> dell500: I know what you mean, yeah.
[08:15] <creyton> i think i accidentally deleted it when i was configuring my networks
[08:15] <jacquesmerde> Nern, thats the error i get when i right click on the desktop icon and click eject
[08:15] <dell500> dle, any ideas on how to fix?
[08:15] <Nern> jacquesmerde: strange... i dont know what to say
[08:15] <creyton> bob2, anyways i cant get sudo -s to work so i can edit the file any suggestions?
[08:15] <levander> dle: looked into it more, won't work, won't make the CD bootable
[08:15] <bob2> lord
[08:15] <jacquesmerde> Nern, how about offering some condolences
[08:15] <bob2> creyton: reboot, select "recovery" from the grub menu
[08:15] <Madpilot> jacquesmerde: open a terminal... type "sudo eject" then your p/w... it's a hack, but it works...
[08:15] <bob2> then fix it
[08:15] <creyton> bob2, sorry im new at this
[08:15] <bob2> then reboot again
[08:15] <creyton> ok got it
[08:16] <bob2> creyton: I understand, just try to be more careful :)
[08:16] <creyton> thanks sorry if i bothered u, im a total newb
[08:16] <dle> dell500: No, but there's a  #ati channel ,where someone spent a lot of time w/ me a couple weeks ago.
[08:16] <Madpilot> jacquesmerde: I've had the same prob w/ a few of my audio CDs
[08:16] <creyton> bob2, im tryng...ive spent 3-4 hours trying to figure out wpa for my network
[08:16] <creyton> nothing has worked
[08:16] <jacquesmerde> Madpilot, it worked! (though got the same error again). this is a problem with mounting and umounting, yeah?
[08:16] <dell500> kool
[08:16] <dell500> thanks
[08:16] <creyton> and ive tried asking here but no one has a solution
[08:17] <Nern> im having some serious problems with this grub thing
[08:17] <creyton> i tried the wiki how tos and went thru almost all the forums regarding setting up wpa
[08:17] <kestas> what problems?
[08:17] <Nern> i cant reinstall it into the MBR
[08:17] <jacquesmerde> Madpilot, any idea when the bug will be fixed? (its never happened to me with these cds and drives on other distros
[08:17] <Nern> kestas yer right it didnt work from the ubuntu cd
[08:17] <kestas> Nern: why whats the error?
[08:17] <Nern> kestas, couldnt find the command
[08:18] <Madpilot> jacquesmerde: that's the extent of my knowlege of this bug, sorry! it *is* a known problem, though.
[08:18] <Nern> kestas, grub-install
[08:18] <kestas> .. go back to whichever cd you used it from first, and it said /dev/hda is read only
[08:18] <bob2> Nern: after you chroot'd?
[08:18] <kestas> and instead of /dev/hda
[08:18] <kestas> to /dev/hdb /dev/hdc /dev/hdd
[08:18] <bob2> Nern: is it a scsi or sata hard disk?
[08:18] <creyton> bob2, sorry to bother you, but im not familiar with the recovery mode and how to add a line to hosts file
[08:18] <creyton> what is the command to add?
[08:18] <kestas> then /dev/sda /dev/sdb /dev/sdc .. until you get it
[08:19] <Nern> bob2 and kestas: i only have one hdd and it is an ide drive, hda
[08:19] <bob2> kestas: that's kinda dangerous
[08:19] <Fikrann> Hello all
[08:19] <kestas> not if youve only got 1 hdd
[08:19] <bob2> creyton: did you reboot into recovery mode yet?
[08:19] <Lafitte-> what program opens rar files in Ubuntu ?
[08:19] <kestas> Nern: are you sure its always recognised as hda?
[08:19] <stormie`> danko123456 : ????
[08:19] <kestas> because why would it say a hdd is read only?
[08:19] <creyton> not yet..but im not exactly sure what im supposed to do in recovery mode to add a line to the hosts file
[08:19] <bob2> Lafitte-: pick ONE channel
[08:19] <bob2> Lafitte-: did you install unrar-nonfree yet?
[08:20] <bob2> creyton: which text editor have you been using?
[08:20] <Shuddertrix> Lafitte-: sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree rar
[08:20] <kestas> Nern: also did you run the command as root?
[08:20] <creyton> gedit
[08:20] <kestas> Nern: was the drive mounted?
[08:20] <Shuddertrix> Lafitte-: Make sure you have multiverse/universe too, for those
[08:20] <Nern> ill be back... lemme give this another shot
[08:20] <Lafitte-> i odnt have source
[08:20] <bob2> creyton: ok, try "nano /etc/hosts" once you reboot
[08:20] <creyton> ok got it
[08:20] <bob2> creyton: it will display all the key bindings on the screen for you
[08:20] <jeff25> anyone know where all the kde user menus are stored?
[08:21] <creyton> alright thanks
[08:21] <Fikrann> Anyone knows how much work is revering from Breezy to Hoary? I have a rather heavily customised system and I'm not really looking forward to reinstallation.
[08:21] <bob2> jeff25: #kubuntu might know
[08:21] <bob2> Fikrann: why did you upgrade to breezy?
[08:21] <jeff25> bob2: thanks.  btw hi! :)
[08:21] <bob2> aloha :)
[08:22] <dell500> anyone here know how to add horzsync and vertrefresh rates in xorg??
[08:22] <dell500> is it the same as xf86??
[08:22] <aromero3> yes dell500
[08:22] <levander> dell500: you just add a modeline to your monitor section
[08:23] <bob2> dell500: yeah, but it should be automatically
[08:23] <Fikrann> bob2, out of habit. I'm used to hanging on really raw bleeding edge of Debian.
[08:23] <bob2> breedy is more broken than sid has ever been
[08:23] <bob2> but you know that now ;)
[08:24] <dell500> well my resolution is all skewed
[08:24] <dell500> i'll see if it helps
[08:24] <levander> dell500: i have had to run dpkg-reconfigure x-server to get ubuntu to recognize my graphics capabilities correctly before...
[08:25] <levander> dell500: if they're wrong, you can try that to see if it makes them right
[08:25] <Fikrann> bob2, I doubt removing apt sources and doing dist-upgrade would help?
[08:26] <dell500> levander, what does that do?
[08:26] <dell500> just reconfiguring it?
[08:26] <bob2> Fikrann: no
[08:26] <bob2> Fikrann: you can do pinning stuff, but downgrades really aren't supported
[08:27] <bob2> I don't know of anything that would certainly break, though
[08:27] <levander> dell500: i'm pretty sure it just re-run the x server config, google a little on it first
[08:27] <chohmann> dell500: do you have any warnings(WW) or errors(EE) in your Xorg log files?
[08:27] <Fikrann> dell500, if you're installing on a laptop, you might have problems because of nonstandard parametres of the lcd.
[08:28] <levander> bob2: you don't consider it an insult to ubuntu that you work on the distribution, but run debian instead?
[08:28] <bob2> levander: I don't work on ubuntu
[08:28] <bob2> and I do run ubuntu on some machines
[08:28] <levander> bob2: okay, i'm getting tired, that was stupid question anyway
[08:28] <levander> bob2: night guys
[08:30] <danko123456> ha:)
[08:30] <stormie`> danko123456 : ????
[08:31] <danko123456> hey, sorry...
[08:31] <danko123456> well, not sure, I must say.
[08:31] <rixth> Whenever I try and play an Mp3 in RhythmBox, I get an error "Could not open resource for writing" yet I know the file exists and totem can play it.
[08:31] <Fikrann> bob2, I'm going to try that...
[08:32] <capi> does anyone know if it's possible to update multiple dyndns accounts with ipcheck?
[08:32] <Fikrann> rixth, totem is broken in too many ways.
[08:32] <rixth> Fikrann, obviously not in this case becasue totem can play it
[08:33] <sevets> Hello
[08:33] <sevets> I am having a problem with x...
[08:33] <egg|sigh> Hello
[08:34] <egg|sigh> I'm back ^-^
[08:34] <dell500> i don't quite understand why my resolution is so skewed like this, i just used an old xorg.conf and before i added the flrx to the driver list, it got all bunk
[08:34] <sevets> I am also having a problem with resolutions
[08:35] <my_haz> hello is anyone good with `screen` and no how to put a status bar on the bottom of the screen
[08:36] <sevets> I am unable to choose a resolution higher than 640x480 in the resolution options
[08:36] <dell500> how do you find out what bus identifier an agp card is on?
[08:36] <dell500> sevets, not sure, but you have to chang ethe resolutions in the xorg.conf file
[08:36] <dell500> only way to do it
[08:37] <bob2> dell500: ignore it
[08:37] <bob2> leave it blank
[08:37] <bob2> etc
[08:38] <sevets> dell500: I have changed the resolutions I believe.  I have even deleted the 640x480 options and yet it still won't give me any other options...
[08:39] <Fikrann> sevets, what gfx card do you have?
[08:39] <sevets> a voodoo 3 3000
[08:39] <sevets> pci
[08:39] <sevets> haha
[08:40] <danko123456> sevets, this may help, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto , Fikrann do you know what you are talking about(no offense, I often talk with no point:))
[08:40] <dell500> Use kernal framebuffer device interface?
[08:40] <dell500> danko123456, he's asking what graphics card he has
[08:40] <dell500> gfx = graphics
[08:40] <danko123456> no, I meant that as a real question.
[08:41] <DekaPink> Is there anything like TMPGenc for Ubuntu/linux in general?
[08:41] <Shuddertrix> sevets: after making sure it's using the tdfx driver (my voodoo 5 5500 with ubuntu came up with the vesa one) you need to go to that wiki link.
[08:41] <dell500> oh lol
[08:41] <danko123456> if he really knows what he is talking about, or just randomly speaking realated words...
[08:41] <danko123456> I do that often.
[08:41] <dell500> lol
[08:41] <Fikrann> danko123456, I believe I know what I'm talking about, thank you.
[08:41] <danko123456> great, just checking.
[08:41] <sevets> Shuddertrix: the tdfx driver would be listed in the conf file?
[08:41] <Shuddertrix> sevets: Yes.
[08:41] <sevets> ok
[08:41] <sevets> I see it there under device
[08:42] <WX> anyone here have mod_perl working with apache2?
[08:42] <sevets> Excellent I shall try the things in this wiki
[08:42] <sevets> br
[08:42] <sevets> b
[08:42] <Shuddertrix> sevets: good, now follow the wiki link danko123456 put up there ;)
[08:43] <alka_trash> silly question
[08:43] <alka_trash> where are the user contrib apt-get packages?
[08:43] <Shuddertrix> if a package wants to remove ubuntu-base, is that _really_ going to screw up anything?
[08:45] <Fikrann> Shuddertrix, not really, it seems.
[08:45] <Shuddertrix> Fikrann: Ok, thanks..
[08:45] <danko123456> alka_trash: unless noone else answers, if I at all understood your question, this page may have the answer: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/
[08:45] <crimmy> Shuddertrix: no, it's just a metapackage
[08:46] <alka_trash> K
[08:46] <alka_trash> thanks
[08:46] <Shuddertrix> crimmy: I must have been looking at the wrong package.. i thought it wasn't..
[08:46] <danko123456> welcome, maybe crimmy would know about that...
[08:46] <Shuddertrix> Odd how I could overlook something like that.
[08:46] <danko123456> crimmy: do you mind when I unload people onto you like that?
[08:47] <dell500> anyone know what kernel framebuffer is?/
[08:47] <crimmy> danba: not really, though it's best if you ping me first if I don't respond immediately.
[08:48] <Shuddertrix> dell500: in a sense, i know what it does
[08:48] <danba> how do you do that?
[08:49] <danba> I usually try to unload if it is related to what you do, like sound, or his repository related question, altho I am not sure that is what that persona asked for...
[08:49] <Fikrann> Philosophical question: Does anyone know the reason why Debian (and therefore Ubuntu) insist on installing MTA on ALL machines, by default?
[08:49] <danba> I mean, only if it is realted to that...
[08:49] <danba> crimmy: and I try to put the nick in front:)
[08:49] <alka_trash> danba: what I was looking for was a unofficial deb directory for Ubuntu, sort of like the backports directory, but maybe on a larger scale
[08:50] <dell500> Shuddertrix, should i use it for 3d acceleration for my ati 9600xt?
[08:50] <Jormundgand> God, Xfce still rules.
[08:50] <Fator_Dee> good morning o/
[08:50] <yoyobean> Is anybody here having trouble with running openGL screensavers?  I can't seem to run mine.  I've tried running some from the command line but I get "Unable to resolve Xmu symbols - please check your Xmu library installation."
[08:51] <chohmann> alka_trash: http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[08:51] <Fikrann> dell500, no, it won't work with closed ati driver.
[08:51] <JasonF> Should I use breezy yet?
[08:51] <transgress> JasonF: topic
[08:51] <Shuddertrix> JasonF: /topic
[08:51] <JasonF> that was the point ;)
[08:51] <Fikrann> heh
[08:51] <JasonF> hence the /me ducks
[08:51] <Tezkah> mplayer is awesome
[08:51] <Fator_Dee> JasonF: if you really want to :-<
[08:51] <jeff25> is acroread broken?
[08:51] <Tezkah> +w32 codecs
[08:51] <Tezkah> oh man... awesome
[08:52] <dell500> Fikrann, just say no then?
[08:52] <jeff25> newt2@laptop ~ $ acroread
[08:52] <jeff25> ERROR: Cannot find installation directory.
[08:52] <jeff25> ?
[08:52] <Fikrann> dell500, where? in kernel config?
[08:52] <Shuddertrix> jeff25: acroread works on my system
[08:52] <dell500> ya
[08:53] <alka_trash> Thanks chohmann, I use to user slackware and I really got use to community packages, like ones from http://www.linuxpackages.net/ I guess I'll have to start a webpage
[08:53] <MegaManX> I again fellows :). I though I'd ask this here, since pygame channel is dead. Is anybody here good with Pygame?. I've kinda made a game and I would be needing somebody to help me out with the project by creating Windows executables of the game :)
[08:53] <dell500> xserver-xorg config
[08:53] <jeff25> Shuddertrix: what is the install dir?
[08:53] <MegaManX> bad, bad spelling day, sorry :(
[08:53] <Shuddertrix> jeff25: I don't know what that wants.. sorry?
[08:53] <bogues> hmmm. wonder if gstreamer will ever hit 1.0
[08:53] <dell500> Fikrann, config for xorg
[08:53] <alka_trash> chohmann: The ubuntu backports page is nice, but not updated that much as I would expect
[08:54] <JasonF> is anyone else getting 403s from backports.ubuntuforums.org repository?
[08:54] <chohmann> alka_trash: i think there actaully having some problems with the backport mirrors today, so if you add them to your sources, you might get 403 denied access errors
[08:54] <alka_trash> chohmann: oh, thanks
[08:54] <JasonF> heh, and my question is answered
[08:54] <jeff25> Shuddertrix: I think I figured i out thanks
[08:54] <chohmann> lol
[08:54] <chohmann> i just look up from my keyboard
[08:55] <danba> alka_trash: I think that is the extent of ubuntus backports at this time...
[08:55] <crimmy> JasonF: / chohmann: the repo moved. The new repo is noted in the forum.
[08:55] <crimmy> JasonF: and I'll lart you in #trilug, too.
[08:55] <crimmy> :p
[08:55] <alka_trash> danba: I appreciate that it's there, just wondering if there was ,, thanks :)
[08:55] <chohmann> crimmy: do you mean the mirrors?
[08:56] <dell500> Fikrann, should it be enabled or no?
[08:56] <chohmann> I tried all the mirrors, kept getting 403
[08:56] <sevets> thanks for the help everyone
[08:56] <sevets> re inspecting the hardware did it
[08:56] <crimmy> chohmann: I was under the impression that the entire master repo moved.
[08:56] <dell500> sevets, does the resolution thing work now?
[08:56] <danba> alka_trash: do rread this page, you seem interested: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MOTU
[08:57] <sevets> yup
[08:57] <sevets> much much better
[08:57] <dell500> like in gui?
[08:57] <alka_trash> danba: okay
[08:57] <Fikrann> dell500, you're editing xorg.conf? Then you don't want fbdev there, for sure.
[08:57] <dell500> Fikrann, so no then :0
[08:57] <dell500> :)
[08:58] <chohmann> crimmy: reading through the backports forum, it seems they took down the master to improve the sycn speed for the mirrors, but i and others on the forum seem to be getting 403 when attempting to access the mirrors themselves
[08:59] <JasonF> the one mirror works
[08:59] <JasonF> what is it... the 02:58 -!- stormie` [stan@60.48.223.1]  has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 
[08:59] <JasonF> damn, bad paste
[08:59] <chohmann> Jason: which one? mirrormax?
[08:59] <JasonF> lemm eget the url of the mirror that's working for me
[08:59] <JasonF> http://acm.cs.umn.edu
[08:59] <JasonF> downloading mplayer from it as we speak
[08:59] <alka_trash> danba: Thanks :D
[09:00] <chohmann> JasonF: hmm, i tried that one. I'll try  it again now.
[09:00] <sevets> Do I have to do anything special to access windows shares?
[09:00] <Jet2k5> Does anyone here know the package to control sound themes?
[09:01] <danba> chohmann: http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/url.php may tell you what you are looking for.
[09:01] <danba> alka_trash: was that related to what you were talking about with teh web page?
[09:01] <alka_trash> danba: yep
[09:02] <danba> alka_trash: cool, cause I wasnt sure if I got the right thing.
[09:02] <chohmann> JasonF: it seems to be working now. thanks
[09:02] <alka_trash> danba: Ha ha, I guess I should be more descriptive,  Thanks again
[09:02] <danba> no, not only that, but I am not really that knowledgeable. welcome.
[09:02] <sebastyan> Hi
[09:03] <danba> chohmann: do read that page, too, it will explain. I think, anyhow.
[09:03] <danba> explained it to me:)
[09:03] <chohmann> danba: loading it as we speak. :)
[09:03] <sebastyan> how can i 5urn off iptables in Ubuntu ???
[09:03] <sebastyan> becvause skype is not working !!
[09:04] <Jormundgand> Use Gaim. :)
[09:05] <benplaut> killall iptables?
[09:05] <Tezkah> skype is for voice... ;)
[09:05] <giggsey> how can I access my windows partion through ubuntu?
[09:05] <sebastyan> i need Skype !
[09:05] <Tezkah> giggsey: mount it
[09:05] <naapuri> Hello. I'd like to open an OOo file that is located on a remote smb share. I installed the openoffice-gnomevfs package, but it doesn't seem to do anything (I'd expect it to modify the File->Open dialog.) gnomevfs-cat et al. work ok, so the share is working.
[09:05] <giggsey> Tezkah -> whats the command? im a n00b
[09:05] <chohmann> danba: yeah, i saw that page. Here's a related thread from the forums. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=37525
[09:05] <Tezkah> giggsey: "man mount"
[09:05] <sebastyan> really
[09:05] <sebastyan> is really important
[09:05] <sebastyan> so can anyone help me ?
[09:06] <Tezkah> hint: what is your windows partition? NTFS?
[09:06] <Fator_Dee> sebastyan: there's no firewall needed in ubuntu by default, so you don't have to kill iptables
[09:06] <giggsey> FAT32
[09:06] <naapuri> I also tried OOo2 from backports. Its File->Open dialog shows the share but it still doesn't open any documents over it.
[09:06] <sevets> Is there anything special I need to do to access a windows share?
[09:06] <naapuri> Any ideas?
[09:06] <r0d> sevets, samba
[09:06] <sebastyan>  killall iptables it does not work
[09:07] <sevets> r0d, samba is the protocol right?
[09:07] <benplaut> sabastyan: do a "killall skype" and then reload it first... when you add it to startup programs, it will run in the background, but not in the panel. Only logs in once... second time won't work
[09:07] <Fator_Dee> sebastyan: because it won't
[09:07] <r0d> Sevets, its a deamon that runs SMB protocol
[09:07] <sevets> aha!
[09:08] <Fator_Dee> giggsey: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountfat
[09:08] <naapuri> sevets, ubuntu doesn't use iptables by default. you can confirm this by runnning the command "iptables-save". If there's no firewall, it prints nothing.
[09:08] <r0d> sevets, but does alot more then just file sharing.
[09:08] <sebastyan> Any ideas ... i'm at work and we use Skype to talk ... am mine does not work
[09:08] <sebastyan> is there a firewall in Ubuntu ???
[09:08] <sebastyan> so i can stop it .. maybe it will work ?
[09:08] <giggsey> thanks Fator_Doe
[09:08] <sevets> r0d, what else does it do?
[09:08] <Tezkah> sebastyan: do you have a router?
[09:08] <Fator_Dee> sebastyan: there's is *no* firewall by default
[09:08] <naapuri> sebastyan, look at my previous line (accidentally went to sevets)
[09:08] <sebastyan> if i do iptables -L i get a huge list some of them are DROP
[09:08] <sebastyan> ??? :(
[09:08] <Tezkah> Skype is weird.  It either works by default, or it doesn't work and is impossible to configure
[09:09] <benplaut> sebastyan: killall skype... same thing happened to me, and it took me ages to figure out that that's all i needed
[09:09] <r0d> sevets,  it can run as a domain controller, file share server. basiclly almost anything microsoft server2003 can do w/ smb
[09:09] <sevets> amazing
[09:09] <sevets> r0d, for now how do I use it to access windows shares?
[09:09] <Fator_Dee> sebastyan: that iptables -L doesn't necessarily mean that it has anything to do with skype
[09:10] <Fator_Dee> sebastyan: do what benplaut said an write "killall skype"
[09:10] <sebastyan> is there anything else to use voice over ip ( as a skype user ) ?
[09:10] <sebastyan> i mean to use skype protokol ??
[09:10] <Fator_Dee> *and
[09:10] <naapuri> r0d, any ideas on how to use openoffice to access a gnomevfs share - or, why it might not work?
[09:10] <r0d> sevets, download samba then do '/etc/init.d/samba start
[09:10] <benplaut> i use skype
[09:11] <sebastyan> benplaut, u use skype under Ubuntu Linux and work ???
[09:11] <r0d> naapuri, dont know much about openoffice
[09:11] <sevets> r0d, am I able to use apt to get that?
[09:11] <r0d> yea
[09:11] <Fator_Dee> sebastyan: have you tried that tip that benplaut said?
[09:11] <benplaut> sabastyan: yup... and a default install, when it comes to networking
[09:11] <JasonF> how do you remove all of the deps of kubuntu-desktop?
[09:12] <JasonF> I installed it, and decided I prefergnome, and I want to get rid of the kubuntu desktop
[09:12] <sebastyan> Fator_Dee: yes i tried ... and nothing special happened
[09:12] <gandalf> hey all
[09:13] <sebastyan> when i tri chat it says that message not delivered yet
[09:13] <benplaut> sebastyan: so it won't let you log in?
[09:13] <gandalf> i really need help here
[09:13] <yahalom> i'm having issues installing XFC
[09:13] <yahalom> can someone help?
[09:13] <benplaut> gandalf: no need to ask permission to ask... ask away!  :)
[09:13] <Jormundgand> gandalf: The answer is 42.
[09:13] <yahalom> configure: error: Library requirements (sigc++-2.0 >= 2.0.6) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them
[09:14] <yahalom> lol
[09:14] <gandalf> trying to play mp3's downloaded mpg123, but still no luck?
[09:14] <sebastyan> and when i try to call someone nothing happens
[09:14] <crimmy> yahalom: XFC?
[09:14] <jeff25> yahalom: install libsigc++
[09:14] <benplaut> gandalf: follow the instructions at www.ubuntuguide.org
[09:14] <Tezkah> gandalf: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[09:14] <sevets> r0d, samba does not come with Ubuntu?
[09:14] <benplaut> crimmy: a great file manager
[09:15] <sebastyan> i log in skype and i can send ONLY one message , afterwards i cannot send or call nobody
[09:15] <gandalf> thanks
[09:15] <benplaut> sevets: not by default
[09:15] <sebastyan> all i get is : "Message not delivered yet "
[09:15] <crimmy> JasonF: currently there's no intuitive method. You have to remove its dependencies manually.
[09:15] <sebastyan> and that's all
[09:15] <sebastyan> :(
[09:15] <sevets> benplaut, thankya
[09:15] <crimmy> benplaut: just ensuring he didn't neglect a vowel
[09:15] <r0d> sevets, uncertain. im from gentoo. you can check by looking in /etc/init.d    if you see a samba script you have it.
[09:15] <benplaut> sabastyan: go into synaptic, find the package "skype", and press ctrl+e, and force it to the oldest version
[09:15] <sevets> r0d, thankya
[09:16] <yahalom> jeff25, my repos dont have that package
[09:16] <r0d> sevets, or to see if its running do a ps -aux | grep samba
[09:16] <benplaut> crimmy: that's what i thought when i first heard of XFE  ;)
[09:16] <yahalom> jeff25, just google it?
[09:16] <jeff25> yahalom: apt-cache search sigc
[09:16] <sevets> What is the best mode of installation?
[09:16] <sebastyan> okay i will try that
[09:16] <crimmy> sevets: /etc/init.d/samba status
[09:17] <Jormundgand> sevets: Burning each bit individually into the memory. :D
[09:17] <sevets> ohnoes
[09:17] <sevets> haha
[09:17] <Fikrann> brb
[09:17] <jeff25> yahalom: sudo apt-get install libsigc++2.0-dev
[09:17] <sevets> A binary should work fine?
[09:18] <Fator_Dee> I prefer stainless steel punch cards,
[09:18] <gandalf> what about getting evolution mail to see a proxy?
[09:19] <JasonF> crimmy: that's nothing less than evil
[09:19] <gandalf> true, but i need it for my network
[09:19] <crimmy> JasonF: well at least it's scriptable
[09:19] <gandalf> say what?
[09:20] <ToutPT|ppc|fr> morning'
[09:20] <danba> crimmy: hey, I had a question related to the dependency removal, once you dont want something... seeing as your name is referenced in aptitude(did you write that?) so, no way to remove those? I thought bob2 said you would remove if installed by aptitude, once you remove with aptitude...
[09:20] <Jormundgand> Where do I find the .desktop files which are in the menu?
[09:20] <danba> ToutPT|ppc|fr: morning.
[09:21] <crimmy> danba: you can remove them
[09:21] <jeff25> Jormundgand: /usr/share/applications
[09:21] <crimmy> danba: aptitude also is intelligent and tracks package usage, so if you don't use something for a while, it'll remove it
[09:21] <dell500> how do i switch to KDE?
[09:21] <Tezkah> dell500: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:21] <danba> crimmy, aha. did you write it?
[09:21] <dell500> well it's installed
[09:22] <dell500> i'm in gnome right now
[09:22] <Tezkah> do you get a login screen?
[09:22] <Tezkah> close the session
[09:22] <Tezkah> choose session type -> KDE
[09:22] <crimmy> danba: no; you probably saw my name in the package changelog
[09:22] <Tezkah> then log in, and you should boot into KDE
[09:22] <dell500> no login
[09:22] <Tezkah> it just goes straight to GNOME?
[09:22] <dell500> oh
[09:22] <dell500> nm
[09:22] <Tezkah> or do you get a Ubuntu screen with a little drumroll
[09:22] <dell500> i'm slow lol
[09:22] <dell500> brb
[09:23] <Tezkah> dell500: so?
[09:23] <danba> crimmy: k, thanks. so you have to use aptitude to install, then it tracks package usage, so if I don't use some dependencies for a while, it'll remove them?
[09:23] <dell500> nope nothing
[09:24] <dell500> no login, so how do i switch to kde
[09:24] <Tezkah> so you close your gnome session, right?
[09:24] <crimmy> danba: yep
[09:24] <danba> dell, log out, click on session, choose kde, sign in.
[09:24] <dell500> ya, brings me to a shell session
[09:24] <Tezkah> oh.  that's not good at all
[09:24] <dell500> nope
[09:24] <Tezkah> so how do you start gnome?
[09:24] <Tezkah> startx ?
[09:24] <dell500> i edited my xorg.conf for just depth of 24 for my resolutions and it freaked
[09:24] <danba> ceratinly isnt what he was trying to do
[09:24] <dell500> yup
[09:25] <sevets> Would anyone describe to me how to install samba on Ubuntu?
[09:25] <Tezkah> hmm, you'd have to edit a bunch of text files... xint I think? I have no idea
[09:25] <benplaut> sebastyan: working now?
[09:26] <GNAM> CHICCCHIRICCHI'!
[09:26] <GNAM> ops
[09:26] <giggsey> shit, i dont have gcc
[09:26] <sevets> hum
[09:27] <jacquesmerde> which repo is gmpc in?
[09:27] <naapuri> sevets, if you just want to access a windows share and you are using gnome, try "Places -> Connect to Server..."
[09:27] <sevets> ahhha
[09:27] <sevets> thankya naapuri
[09:28] <danba> giggsey: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:28] <yahalom> anybody having issues logging in to gnome
[09:28] <yahalom> ?
[09:28] <danba> altho, you should be like, hey, how can I install gcc rather.
[09:28] <sevets> oh yes and one more thing
[09:28] <dell500> w00t, back in kde
[09:29] <sevets> how do I mount a hard drive?
[09:29] <danba> what filesystem?
[09:29] <giggsey> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution). -> but i dont have the CD anymore
[09:29] <sevets> I believe it is ntfs... It would be read only I think for now right?
[09:29] <danba> well, you are online... try sudo apt-get -f install
[09:30] <danba> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions sevets
[09:30] <danba> I think that has it have to check that page out tomorrow.
[09:31] <sevets> thanks danba
[09:31] <giggsey> Media change: please insert the disc labeled
[09:31] <giggsey>  'Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)'
[09:31] <giggsey> in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter
[09:31] <giggsey>  -> and i dont have the disc
[09:31] <Tezkah> anyone want to let me SSH into their box?
[09:31] <danba> jacquesmerde, lets do this, what repos do you have enabled?
[09:31] <Tezkah> I need to forma^w practice
[09:31] <danba> welcome, sevets.
[09:31] <danba> giggsey: please edit your sources.list, and comment out the first line, pertaining to the cd.
[09:31] <danba> I bet you dont know how, hey?
[09:32] <danba> Tezkah: what?
[09:32] <danba> hey, carnet.hr!
[09:33] <jeff25> Failed to fetch http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/ubp/dists/hoary-backports/main/binary-i386/smbfs_3.0.14a-1~5.04ubp1_i386.deb  403 Forbidden
[09:33] <jeff25> ?
[09:34] <danba> jeff25: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=37525 .
[09:34] <chohmann> jeff25: try the umn.edu mirror
[09:34] <jacquesmerde> danba, i think i just have universe enabled. i figure its in multiverse or marillat?
[09:34] <jeff25> ok
[09:35] <danba> multiverse if you have universe, I guess....:-/ wanna try that, and tell me if it helps before I unload my sources.list onto you?
[09:36] <danba> giggsey: whenever you are ready.
[09:36] <jacquesmerde> danba, forget it. i'll stick with glurp
[09:36] <jeff25> what is the diff between hoary-backports and hoary-backports-staging?
[09:36] <danba> I agree with that, tried that other program today, not very friendly.
[09:37] <giggsey> ive edited it danba
[09:37] <Seveas> jeff25, backport sucks, backports-stagings sucks harder :)
[09:37] <jeff25> Seveas: well I need smbfs and it's on backports
[09:38] <danba> giggsey: great. so it works now?
[09:38] <Seveas> jeff25, it's in the normal repositories too!
[09:38] <giggsey> how to i rebuilt it again, i closed shell, lol, lost my last commands
[09:38] <Seveas> NEVER use backports unless absolutely needed (which means: NEVER use backports)
[09:38] <giggsey> nvm
[09:39] <danba> Seveas: hi. did you know we have a bot?
[09:39] <Seveas> danba, bots are not allowed here, unless you have talked about it with the operators...
[09:39] <danba> Seveas: I mean in the channel...hehe, so you didnt...
[09:39] <danba> !hi
[09:39] <ubotu> hello, danba
[09:40] <Seveas> danba, remove that bot please
[09:40] <dell500> yes! 3d accel and gui resolution!
[09:40] <giggsey> i ran sudo apt-get-update and got ive messaged it to you
[09:40] <danba> Seveas: sure, let me go remove the official bot...:)
[09:40] <Seveas> danba, bots are not allowed here, unless you have talked about it with the operators...
[09:40] <tiger> Hello.
[09:40] <Seveas> hmm, official
[09:40] <danba> yeah, I read your first post...
[09:40] <Seveas> since when?
[09:40] <danba> not sure, bob2 told me about it an hour or so ago.
[09:40] <jacquesmerde> why is my ubuntu partition 20gb full already??? i only isntalled three days ago!!!
[09:40] <Seveas> and since when do the operators allow obnoxious !hi commands...
[09:40] <danba> jacquesmerde: why do you surf porn?
[09:41] <giggsey> lol
[09:41] <giggsey> its stuff like !kick !ban !op
[09:41] <jeff25> Seveas: you're right.  Thanks
[09:41] <danba> Seveas: please go see with them, not sure:) maybe its a secret... for now...
[09:41] <jacquesmerde> danba, well, i didnt THINK i did. maybe subconsciously i am...
[09:41] <capi> anyone here used updatedd for dyndns?
[09:41] <danba> haha, yeah, right...
[09:41] <danba> jacquesmerde: just joking, though, what programs do you use, for file sharing and such?
[09:42] <DekaPink> Hey all... If I edit my Ubuntu partition with partition magic... Would that mess it up? :3
[09:42] <danba> giggsey: please comment those repositories out too.
[09:42] <jacquesmerde> i've dloaded TWO mp3's with giftoxic, and ripped TWO cds with juicer
[09:42] <tiger> excuse me, i just installed ubuntu, which went quite well; i have only two questions: 1) how do i set/get to know the root password? 2) screen res is 1024x768 / 60 Hz, how can i get it up to 75+ Hz? (it was that high on the last OS on this computer) ..
[09:42] <danba> the backports, comment them out, giggsey.
[09:42] <Seveas> jacquesmerde, have you installed a *lot* of stuff already from the repositories?
[09:42] <giggsey> oO
[09:43] <bogues> DekaPink, I've found partition magic to do bad things.  I would trust parted before that
[09:43] <giggsey> done
[09:43] <jacquesmerde> Seveas, just gftp, tetex, and gstreamer0.8-mad
[09:43] <Seveas> tiger: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[09:43] <bogues> DekaPink, partition magic hosed an ext3 partition of mine one time
[09:43] <danba> jacquesmerde: you are a criminal, please dont come here anymore:)
[09:43] <jacquesmerde> danba, the mad thing?
[09:43] <danba> DekaPink: try qtparted, or gparted
[09:43] <Fator_Dee> jacquesmerde: I once had a 8.7gig .xsession-errors -file on my age old mandrake installation ^_^
[09:43] <DekaPink> bogues: I've installed gparted, but it doesn't seem to want to do antyhing to the partitions other than show me their properties.
[09:43] <Seveas> tiger, for the second question: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:43] <giggsey> now i get:
[09:43] <giggsey> eading package lists... Done
[09:43] <giggsey> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:43] <giggsey> E: Couldn't find package build-essential
[09:43] <jacquesmerde> how do i check the size of my home directory?
[09:44] <jeff25> Seveas: is there anyway to get a list of all packages from backports using dpkg?
[09:44] <Choubaka> jacquesmerde: du -h
[09:44] <bogues> DekaPink, actually you might want to download a bootdisk with parted
[09:44] <Seveas> giggsey, make sure your sources.list looks like http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/38
[09:44] <danba> jacquesmerde: no, you downloaded 2 songs through gift...tsk, tsk...
[09:44] <Seveas> jacquesmerde, du checks sizes of folders
[09:44] <johnnybezak> hey guys anyone know an rss reader for the cli?
[09:44] <danba> giggsey: uncomment main.
[09:44] <Seveas> read its manpage before using it :)
[09:44] <bogues> DekaPink, download a floppy with parted....i had one but can't remember it.  it worked great.
[09:44] <tiger> ah.. hm. why does sudo ask for my password again?
[09:44] <Choubaka> and they're directories -_-
[09:44] <Choubaka> not folder.
[09:45] <Choubaka> folders*
[09:45] <tiger> if i'm already logged in?
[09:45] <napsy> Recently I upgraded my kernel to 2.6.12-rc5 but now I have a problem. I have a disk with a VFAT partiton(hdc1). When I try to mount it on /mnt/share, mount says that the device is already mounted or /mnt/share is in use. But none of the two is true. In 2.6.11 I could mount hdc1 with no problems. Please help.
[09:45] <jacquesmerde> danba, i never said they were songs. just a bit of opensource sound...
[09:45] <Fator_Dee> tiger: you are already logged in?
[09:45] <tiger> well, as my user account
[09:45] <Fator_Dee> tiger: as a normal user?
[09:45] <Fator_Dee> tiger: then it's normal behaviour
[09:45] <Seveas> tiger, that's how sudo works (fortunately)
[09:45] <danba> jacquesmerde: yeah, I kno, I kno, just teasing you...:) you didnt get that?
[09:45] <Seveas> you can disable that though
[09:45] <tiger> ah, okay
[09:45] <DekaPink> I don't have a floppy drive... Heh.
[09:45] <Fator_Dee> tiger: sudo asks for root permission
[09:45] <Choubaka> napsy: may I suggest something? downgrade.
[09:45] <Seveas> toger, read man sudoers
[09:45] <jacquesmerde> danba, i'm down, punk
[09:45] <Seveas> tiger*
[09:45] <tiger> Thank you.
[09:46] <Choubaka> napsy: using bleeding edge kernels is begging for trouble
[09:46] <napsy> Choubaka: but 2.6.11 was to me very unstable
[09:46] <danba> oh, man, I hate that... its late, I guess.
[09:46] <Choubaka> napsy: so use ubuntu's 2.6.10
[09:46] <Ryan_> Could anyone help me out, the HDD on my laptop is fucked somehow. It will start makeing a jumpung clicking sound then it causes my comp to shut down. Not shut down propperly, just switches off there and then. So im going to phone the tech support and use my warranty to get a new HDD for my laptop, but i cant be fucked haveing to send my laptop so im just going to ask if they can send a new HDD out and ill fit it myself and if they wish ill send the defe
[09:46] <Ryan_> cted one back. But just incase they dont believe me i was wondering if anyone has any ideas for a good story to tell them as to whats causing the problem, any ideas?
[09:46] <giggsey> still E: Couldn't find package build-essential, i haven't uncommented main
[09:46] <Choubaka> well, do it :P
[09:46] <giggsey> lol
[09:46] <Choubaka> you need main uncommented :P
[09:47] <Seveas> giggsey, make sure your sources.list looks like http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/38
[09:47] <giggsey> i have
[09:47] <Seveas> and do an apt-get update
[09:47] <Choubaka> ye.
[09:47] <giggsey> ive done update
[09:47] <giggsey> how do i uncomment main?
[09:47] <Choubaka> remove the #
[09:47] <Choubaka> :P
[09:47] <giggsey> stupid question
[09:47] <Seveas> giggsey, paste your sources.list and the output of apt-get update on ubuntu.pastebin.com please
[09:47] <Choubaka> well, not really.
[09:47] <gandalf> s there a difference between atp-get and synaptic
[09:47] <Choubaka> yes and no.
[09:48] <Ryan_> Anyone ??????
[09:48] <Seveas> gandalf, yes
[09:48] <jacquesmerde> surely mounting a windows partition wouldnt be the reason i seem to have used 20gig on this ubuntu partition?
[09:48] <Seveas> apt-get is command line
[09:48] <Choubaka> synaptic is a completely different application
[09:48] <danba> jeff25: here it is: ftp://ftp2.caliu.info/backports/dists/ .
[09:48] <Seveas> synaptic a gui
[09:48] <danba> a list of them, jeff25.
[09:48] <Seveas> they both use libapt :)
[09:48] <jeff25> danba: thanks
[09:48] <Choubaka> they do the same thing though, yeah. :)
[09:48] <jeff25> danba: been looking for that
[09:48] <giggsey> http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/56
[09:49] <Fator_Dee> Ryan_: I don't think there's any other option but to give them the whole computer
[09:49] <danba> Ryan_: what kind of story would you like us to make up?
[09:49] <yahalom> i need help. finally finally i logged into gnome. it took 4 minutes. when i press logout it takes a minute. any ideas?
[09:49] <yahalom> my comp is fast.
[09:49] <Ryan_> danba, just a feasable one as to why a hard drive would be doing such a thing
[09:49] <danba> Ryan_: saying *bump* is also less annoying...not that I am easily annoyed...
[09:49] <Choubaka> yahalom: you don't have DMA enabled? :|
[09:50] <Choubaka> or do you have SATA?
[09:50] <Seveas> giggsey, your sources.list is not correct
[09:50] <yahalom> Choubaka, i didnt change anything
[09:50] <r0d> hey Seveas. is their a way to customer the splashimage of ubuntu?
[09:50] <Tezkah> Ryan_: yeah, watch out, they'll usually just sendy our laptop back formatted
[09:50] <Ryan_> I know its a part of the hard drive because it always occurs when i try to run azueras bit torrent client
[09:50] <danba> Ryan_: it started doing it by itself, you were on vacation, I would always say that.
[09:50] <yahalom> Choubaka, how can i enable it?
[09:50] <Choubaka> yahalom: yeah, still.
[09:50] <giggsey> ok sevaes?
[09:50] <Tezkah> so use knoppix or something to try ad get the data out of it
[09:50] <yahalom> Choubaka, or at least check for it
[09:50] <Choubaka> yahalom: sudo hdparm -d /dev/hddevice
[09:50] <Fator_Dee> Ryan_: check the smart-info of your harddrive
[09:50] <Ryan_> Tezkah, ive reformatted twice since the problem first arose
[09:50] <Choubaka> what type of HD do you have?
[09:50] <yahalom> Choubaka, oh man
[09:50] <Choubaka> sata or ata?
[09:50] <yahalom> Choubaka, thats it
[09:51] <Ryan_> smart info of my hard drive?
[09:51] <Ryan_> how do i do that Fator_Dee
[09:51] <yahalom> Choubaka, i changed something hdparm to make it faster
[09:51] <danba> r0d: do read http://art.gnome.org/faq.php#q8
[09:51] <Choubaka> ok, so you can enable it with hdparm -d1
[09:51] <Tezkah> Ryan_: then... send it in?  funky harddrive?
[09:51] <Fator_Dee> Ryan_: sudo smartctl -a /dev/hda, if you don't have smartctl installed, install it
[09:51] <Seveas> giggsey, http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/57
[09:51] <yahalom> Choubaka, replace hddevice with hda1 fo ex?
[09:51] <Seveas> use THAT as your sources.list, i've corrected it
[09:51] <Choubaka> no.
[09:51] <Choubaka> just hda
[09:51] <Ryan_> Fator_Dee, im not on ubuntu at the moment
[09:51] <Choubaka> if that's your HD
[09:51] <Ryan_> im on dows partition
[09:52] <Choubaka> hda1 is a partition
[09:52] <Seveas> r0d, yes, which splashimage do you mean?
[09:52] <Fator_Dee> Ryan_: well, if you go to ubuntu
[09:52] <yahalom> Choubaka, man but i used hdparm to increase the speed of my cdrom
[09:53] <r0d> Seveas, dont know what unbuntu calls it, but the splash image is the jpeg picture doing bootup
[09:53] <yahalom> Choubaka, dma is on now, dont knwo if it was befora
[09:53] <Ryan_> sod it. ill phone just now and see if they will. If not then what the hell ill just have to send the entire thing :-\
[09:53] <Fator_Dee> Ryan_: and I'd think there are programs on windows that check the smart info of harddrives, but I don't know of any
[09:53] <giggsey> Seveas: http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/58
[09:53] <Choubaka> yahalom: you may want to edit /etc/hdparm.conf to make it permanent
[09:53] <Ryan_> cheers peeps :)
[09:53] <r0d> danba, thx for gui solution, but I'm looking for the file it uses
[09:53] <Seveas> r0d, bootup? you mean after logging in?
[09:53] <yahalom> Choubaka, but it took a sec for the logout screen to show. so i guess it works:)
[09:53] <r0d> Seveas, bootup
[09:53] <Choubaka> yahalom: hehe :P
[09:53] <yahalom> Choubaka, what do i change?
[09:53] <Seveas> hmm, during bootup ubuntu has no splash
[09:54] <Choubaka> uhh, well hmm.
[09:54] <danba> Seveas , r0d, are you sure you read the faq, r0d? it seems to refer a file...
[09:54] <giggsey> Seveas, http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/58
[09:54] <r0d> Seveas, in the grub installation i had a 'splash' image in the grub folder that you could change
[09:54] <danba> giggsey: patience is a virtue...
[09:54] <giggsey> kk
[09:54] <naapuri> cifs/smb problem solved: apt-get install smbfs, then manual mount.
[09:54] <giggsey> lol
[09:54] <Seveas> giggsey, do apt-get update
[09:54] <r0d> danba, not fulling, but I'm gonna look at it some more now. thx
[09:54] <WhiteDove> Hiya
[09:54] <Seveas> ah! during grub
[09:54] <yahalom> Choubaka, that doesnt make it permanent?
[09:55] <giggsey> its downloading some
[09:55] <r0d> :)
[09:55] <Choubaka> yahalom: no.
[09:55] <Choubaka> yahalom: I'll post an example config
[09:55] <Seveas> you can edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and put a 14-color xpm file in /boot/grub
[09:55] <yahalom> Choubaka, #	dma = on
[09:55] <yahalom> Choubaka, ok
[09:55] <Seveas> r0d, there is a howto on that on either the wiki or the forums
[09:55] <r0d> ah so thats the file, thx Seveas
[09:55] <r0d> yea danba just pointed it to me. thx
[09:56] <WhiteDove> Hello
[09:56] <danba> that one is not for the boot up splash, it is for what they call the gnome splash screen, right after you log in.
[09:56] <prasys> need help
[09:56] <prasys> okay , whenver i try to mount my NTFS Partition
[09:57] <tiger> thanks for the help :)
[09:57] <prasys> Konqueror says "i don't have premission"
[09:57] <giggsey> its working now i think
[09:57] <Madpilot> g'night, all.
[09:57] <prasys> nnite madpilot
[09:57] <prasys> *permisson
[09:57] <danba> prasys: how do you mount it? http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions .
[09:57] <prasys> okay , but when i run it as root. I can view it
[09:57] <Seveas> prasys, add umask=0000 to the mount options
[09:57] <Choubaka> yahalom: http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/59
[09:57] <prasys> sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda4 /mnt
[09:58] <Choubaka> DMA makes the biggest difference.
[09:58] <prasys> and /mnt is owned by root
[09:58] <prasys> and I Can't even change the permissons
[09:58] <Seveas> prasys, sudo mount -t /dev/hda4 /mnt -o umask=0000
[09:59] <prasys> i shall try that
[09:59] <danba> do you want it to mount automatically?
[09:59] <prasys> can
[09:59] <prasys> again , i can't acesss
[09:59] <prasys> but then if i go to /mnt and type ls
[10:00] <giggsey> How do I install a rpm?
[10:00] <prasys> i can see my windows files
[10:00] <jeff25> Seveas: why do you think backports suck?
[10:00] <Seveas> prasys, umount it first
[10:00] <danba> well, umount, yes.
[10:00] <prasys> giggsey > convert to deb with alien
[10:00] <Seveas> jeff25, because the tend to cause breakage
[10:00] <danba> giggsey: why, is it something that is not avaliable as a .deb?
[10:00] <prasys> seveas > how do i go about that
[10:00] <jeff25> Seveas: and why does that happen ?
[10:00] <Seveas> danba, umount /mnt
[10:00] <prasys> I Tried un-mounting . it says....i don't have the premisson again
[10:00] <giggsey> ill look for the .deb
[10:00] <yahalom> Choubaka, the focus is cdrom and hd right? mine are all commented out? i need to uncomment them, like urs?
[10:01] <danba> sudo umount /mnt
[10:01] <Seveas> jeff25, because the people who buikd the backports are not good enough at packagebuilding...
[10:01] <prasys> it says , its already mounted mutiple times
[10:01] <johnnybezak> how do i search apt from the cli
[10:01] <Seveas> prasys, umount -f /mnt
[10:01] <Seveas> several times :)
[10:01] <Seveas> johnnybezak, apt-cache search
[10:01] <danba> giggsey: sudo aptitude search '~nkeyword' helps, with searching.
[10:01] <jeff25> Seveas: ah
[10:01] <yahalom> Choubaka, what is this: #command_line {
[10:01] <yahalom> #       hdparm -q -m16 -q -W0 -q -d1 /dev/hda
[10:01] <yahalom> #}
[10:01] <yahalom> ?
[10:01] <jeff25> Seveas: what is a 'backport' anyway
[10:02] <yahalom> oops longer than i thought sorry
[10:02] <prasys> k
[10:02] <prasys> done
[10:02] <johnnybezak> whats the package i need for mp3 playback
[10:02] <Seveas> jeff25, a backport is a newer version of some package adapted to work in an older version of a distribution
[10:02] <Choubaka> yahalom: that's for defining a direct command to run
[10:02] <Seveas> (in this case)
[10:02] <jeff25> Seveas: ah
[10:02] <Seveas> prasys, now try mount
[10:02] <yahalom> Choubaka, should i remove that?
[10:02] <Seveas> prasys, sudo mount -t /dev/hda4 /mnt -o umask=0000
[10:02] <Seveas> prasys, sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda4 /mnt -o umask=0000
[10:02] <danba> you should really use aptitude, from command line, I hear.
[10:02] <Choubaka> yahalom: leave it commented out.
[10:03] <Seveas> danba, yes, aptitude rocks
[10:03] <Fator_Dee> yahalom: you can leave it commented out for foture reference
[10:03] <Fator_Dee> *future
[10:03] <Choubaka> it will have no effect with those #s in the beginning of the line :=
[10:03] <Choubaka> :) even
[10:03] <Dr_Melectaus> Compaq are a bunch of chunts!
[10:03] <danba> !restricted
[10:03] <Dr_Melectaus> I payed 500 pounds for a warranty there claiming i dont fucking have!
[10:03] <ubotu> rumour has it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[10:03] <yahalom> Choubaka, and i have one /dev/cdroms and one /dev/cdrom what do i do? i have 2 cdroms, one writer and one plain
[10:04] <jeff25> Seveas: so what's the solution? Run old stuff ?
[10:04] <danba> johnnybezak: do what ubotu said.
[10:04] <Dr_Melectaus> FUCKING COMPAQ SCUM
[10:04] <yahalom> Fator_Dee, thanx
[10:04] <Seveas> jeff25, with a 6-month release schedule, there is no old stuff...
[10:04] <transgress> Dr_Melectaus: calm down in here... we aren't compaq...
[10:04] <Choubaka> yahalom: are they different physical drives?
[10:04] <Seveas> Dr_Melectaus, watch your language please...
[10:04] <Choubaka> yahalom: define sections for them too
[10:04] <yahalom> Choubaka, yes
[10:04] <transgress> night everyone
[10:04] <yahalom> Choubaka, no clue how to do that
[10:04] <Dr_Melectaus> sorry just i didnt think compaw where such scamming chunts
[10:05] <Dr_Melectaus> theyve nicked 500 quid from me the thieving gits
[10:05] <echelon_> yahalom, hi!
[10:05] <Seveas> Dr_Melectaus: Please keed the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct
[10:05] <Choubaka> yahalom: with the syntax /device/file { options-each-on-their-own-line }
[10:05] <jeff25> Seveas: I agree with you though... backports packing people make some mistakes... for example the fluxbox 0.9.13 is broken.  I had to compile my own version and make a .deb for it.  They didn't compile it with the right configure switches
[10:05] <Jormundgand> I've never understood how people can confuse "were" (which rhymes with "fur") and "where" (which rhymes with "fair").
[10:05] <yahalom> Choubaka, i pasted the section: http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/60 can u check it out pls?
[10:05] <Choubaka> yahalom: just like in the examples of the config
[10:06] <Choubaka> yahalom: hmm
[10:06] <Choubaka> do you have a /dev/cdroms/cdrom0?
[10:06] <danba> Dr_Melectaus: quite amusing, well, do you have a receipt?
[10:06] <Dr_Melectaus> danba, yes i do
[10:06] <yahalom> Choubaka, yes
[10:06] <Choubaka> good
[10:06] <danba> well, it is legal proof.
[10:06] <yahalom> Choubaka, and dev/cdrom
[10:07] <Dalkus> If you own the English version of a game (as in, you have bought it) - would it be illegal to download a version of the game in another language? (for learning purposes?)
[10:07] <Choubaka> do ls -l /dev/cdrom
[10:07] <Dr_Melectaus> and those scrote sucking poo's are going to be getting a right earfull when i next contact them
[10:07] <jeff25> Seveas: since I'm an ex gentoo user, 6 months is a long time to wait.  I'm sure I'll be compiling stuff like fluxbox the day it hits the CVS server
[10:07] <Choubaka> Dalkus: probably :/
[10:07] <Choubaka> depends on the licence.
[10:07] <Dalkus> bah, sucks
[10:07] <Dalkus> okay, thanks
[10:07] <yahalom> Choubaka, lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 3 2005-05-31 09:15 /dev/cdrom -> hdc
[10:07] <Seveas> jeff25 ah :)
[10:07] <danba> Jormundgand: its getting hot in herr, so, I dont see what you mean...
[10:07] <Choubaka> yahalom: ok. and what about /dev/cdroms/cdrom0?
[10:08] <yahalom> Choubaka, lol nothing
[10:08] <yahalom> Choubaka, so i should just comment that out?
[10:08] <Choubaka> then you don't have it
[10:08] <Choubaka> eys.
[10:08] <Choubaka> yes*
[10:08] <danba> Dr_Melectaus: please understand the difference between a person lijke you workijng on the phone for a company, and the company's policy when you call the,.
[10:09] <Choubaka> so hmm, what's your other cdrom device then?
[10:09] <Dr_Melectaus> danba, sorry?
[10:09] <Choubaka> yahalom: ls -l /dev/cd* and tell me all but /dev/cdrom
[10:09] <yahalom> Choubaka, but i dont have to seperate entries for each drive. i have one entry for both drives. so unless i have cds in both i dont see them listed? get what i mean? can i change that?
[10:10] <yahalom> Choubaka, lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 3 2005-05-31 09:15 /dev/cdrom1 -> hdd
[10:10] <yahalom> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 3 2005-05-31 09:15 /dev/cdrw -> hdc
[10:10] <danba> do understand the difference between some kid working for compaq, taking calls on the phone from angry customers, and the company COmpaq when you do call.
[10:10] <Choubaka> yahalom: aha.
[10:10] <guran> Hi, I have a problem with ntp, when doing ntpdate I get not permited to a server used by Mandriva and ntp-genkeys doesn't exist?
[10:10] <yahalom> Choubaka, found it?
[10:10] <Choubaka> your second cdrom device is /dev/hdd
[10:10] <Choubaka> or /dev/cdrom1
[10:11] <Choubaka> see, it points to a different place than /dev/cdrom :)
[10:11] <yahalom> Choubaka, umm how do i know which one is it?
[10:11] <Choubaka> chances are hdd is the non-burner.
[10:11] <danikata> hi all
[10:11] <giggsey> I am installing bmp and ive got:
[10:11] <Choubaka> as cdrw points to hdc :)
[10:11] <danikata> may i ask
[10:11] <giggsey> checking for X... no
[10:11] <giggsey> configure: error: Cannot find X11 headers/libraries
[10:11] <giggsey> on configure
[10:11] <Choubaka> yahalom: so define a section for /dev/cdrom1 too :)
[10:12] <yahalom> Choubaka, ok so hdd not burner cdrw burned how should i mark them?
[10:12] <danba> giggsey: beep-media-player?
[10:12] <giggsey> yes
[10:12] <danikata> i have add static ip in mcc, but i think i doesnt work
[10:12] <yahalom> Choubaka, so add /dev/cdrom1?
[10:12] <Choubaka> yes.
[10:12] <iceman2K> wow extracting a file and peeking my cpu ..
[10:12] <danba> ok, well, do try sudo aptitude install beep-media-player
[10:12] <Choubaka> abd just enable dma on it too.
[10:12] <giggsey> kk
[10:12] <Choubaka> and*
[10:12] <danikata> is there any method to change ip address ?
[10:13] <danba> sudo aptitude install anythingPrettyMuchExceptReallyRarely
[10:13] <yahalom> Choubaka, ok i get it cdrom is the writer
[10:13] <Echelon-H> bah, xchat is not saving my configuration in server list :(
[10:13] <jdizzle> ok so i installed realplayer 10 and it doesnt work
[10:13] <danba> jdizzle in da hizzle...
[10:13] <jdizzle> hehe
[10:13] <yahalom> Choubaka, so just copy it and add it underneath cdrom and change name to cdrom1 right?
[10:13] <danba> why, jdizzle? why realplayer?
[10:13] <Seveas> giggsey, what are you compiling?
[10:14] <danba> beepmediaplayer
[10:14] <Seveas> hmm
[10:14] <Seveas> beep-media-player is in the repositories!
[10:14] <yahalom> Choubaka, /dev/cdrom1 {
[10:14] <yahalom>        dma = on ?
[10:14] <danba> do you have nme on ignore half the time, seveas?
[10:14] <giggsey> ive installed it now
[10:14] <jdizzle> danba: b/c realplayer is required for streaming video by a lot of sites online
[10:14] <Seveas> danba, no
[10:15] <danba> Seveas: I know what it is, I severely rarely put ppls nicks in front, when I am tired.
[10:15] <Choubaka> yahalom: you need the closing bracket too
[10:15] <Seveas> hmm, i must read more carufully, missed your lines danba
[10:15] <Seveas> sorry
[10:15] <Choubaka> otherwise that's correct
[10:15] <yahalom> Choubaka, its there, tried to save space in the chan
[10:15] <danba> thats cool:)
[10:15] <Choubaka> yahalom: ok.
[10:15] <danba> I didnt smile that time, tho, too tired.
[10:15] <yahalom> Choubaka, thanx a ton man. very very helpful
[10:15] <giggsey> :(
[10:15] <yahalom> Choubaka, be well
[10:15] <Echelon-H> yahalom, sup :)?
[10:15] <giggsey> right, now ive got to work out how to get it playing wma
[10:15] <jeff25> using backports will cause dist-upgrade to fail later?
[10:15] <jdizzle> any1 here successfully install realplayer?
[10:16] <yahalom> Echelon-H,  
[10:16] <BeTa> hi,
[10:16] <Echelon-H> BeTa, hi
[10:16] <BeTa> how can I add icons to the Gnome 2.10 menus ?
[10:16] <Choubaka> What language was that yahalom just spoke? :|
[10:16] <danba> hebrew
[10:16] <Jormundgand> Hebrew.
[10:16] <Seveas> BeTa, art.gnome.org/faq.php :)
[10:16] <Choubaka> right.
[10:17] <BeTa> w/ warty (Gnome 2.8 ?) a right click on a menu was great :c)
[10:17] <Choubaka> I guess it was UTF-8
[10:17] <BeTa> let(s read ;c)
[10:17] <Echelon-H> hehe... he said I'll be back in a second if anyone cares :P
[10:17] <Seveas> BeTa, ah you want to add menu entries?
[10:17] <Seveas> BeTa, www.realistanew.com, search for smeg
[10:17] <yahalom> Choubaka, still not loggin in :(
[10:17] <danba> seveas, BeTa, as well, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38183&highlight=smeg .
[10:17] <Jormundgand> Echelon-H: Care to transliterate so those of us stuck with the poor Latin alphabet can read it?
[10:18] <Choubaka> yahalom: ok so hm. you need to restart hdparm
[10:18] <dmoyne> I have a problem with CUPS as I can no more access the CUPS server ! ; can somebody help ?
[10:18] <Choubaka> sudo /etc/init.d/hdparm restart
[10:18] <Seveas> Jormundgand, dpkg-reconfigure locales and enable UTF-8 ;)
[10:18] <danba> BeTa: you need to first install the  PyXDG dev for hoary and breezy users , then the  deb file for hoary and breezy user .
[10:18] <bob2> dmoyne: what dod you change since it last worked?
[10:18] <Echelon-H> Jormundgand, I think I already did :P
[10:18] <yahalom> Choubaka, ok :)
[10:18] <selavagh> Heya :)
[10:18] <Jormundgand> Seveas: I saw the Hebrew fine, just can't read the alphabet.
[10:18] <Echelon-H> Uuh, what's NFS?
[10:19] <Seveas> ah ;)
[10:19] <Jormundgand> Echelon-H: Transliterate != translate
[10:19] <Echelon-H> Jormundgand, aha.
[10:19] <benplaut> yahalom: atah meveen eevreet?
[10:19] <BeTa> there is no native way to add an icon to a menu, like in warty ?
[10:19] <benplaut> (no hebrew keyboard)
[10:19] <Choubaka> Echelon-H: network filesystem.
[10:19] <Echelon-H> benplaut, shalom!
[10:19] <benplaut> Echelon-H: gahm atah?
[10:19] <Echelon-H> Choubaka, I see. can I share files with win computer with this?
[10:19] <giggsey> checking for bmp >= 0.9.7... Package bmp was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[10:19] <giggsey> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `bmp.pc'
[10:19] <giggsey> to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
[10:19] <giggsey> No package 'bmp' found
[10:19] <giggsey> configure: error: BMP >= 0.9.7 development package not installed
[10:19] <Choubaka> Echelon-H: no.
[10:19] <Echelon-H> benplaut, yeah, but you better speak english here.
[10:19] <Choubaka> you need samba.
[10:19] <giggsey> when trying bmp-wma
[10:20] <Echelon-H> Choubaka, so it's only for linux comps?
[10:20] <Seveas> giggsey, sudo apt-get install beep-medaia-player
[10:20] <giggsey> ive got the player
[10:20] <Choubaka> Echelon-H: yes.
[10:20] <giggsey> i need the wma plugin
[10:20] <giggsey> which ive downloaded
[10:20] <benplaut> i only speak a bit on hebrew, so no problem there (more understand)
[10:20] <Choubaka> giggsey: you need the -dev files.
[10:20] <danba> giggsey: please use http://pastebin.com for pasting.
[10:20] <Echelon-H> Choubaka, ok, thanks.
[10:20] <dmoyne> bob2, I do not know exactlty but I think I messed up in changing CUPS server name !!!!
[10:20] <danba> or an equivalent
[10:20] <Seveas> giggsey, sudo apt-get install beep-medaia-player-dev
[10:20] <Seveas> :)
[10:20] <giggsey> kk
[10:20] <Choubaka> media :P
[10:20] <giggsey> will pastebin next time
[10:20] <danba> Seveas: please use aptitude:)
[10:20] <Seveas> hmm, typo :)
[10:20] <danba> jj.
[10:20] <selavagh> would it be good to do a reinstall of Ubuntu, as i found out it is quite fast, so to install LVM?
[10:21] <benplaut> geggsey: watch the ?typo?: "apt-get install beep-media-player-dev"
[10:21] <Seveas> danba, i use aptitude on my system, but am soo damn used to apt-get that i had to alias apt-get to aptitude :)
[10:21] <giggsey> i know
[10:21] <giggsey> its downloading the files
[10:21] <Choubaka> Seveas: :DD
[10:21] <Echelon-H> Jormundgand, what's transliterate :P?
[10:21] <danba> nice idea, I think I may have to do that...not, really, better to learn.
[10:21] <Choubaka> Echelon-H: translate from one script to another
[10:22] <Echelon-H> Choubaka, which means O_o?
[10:22] <jdizzle> any1 install realplayer 10 on hoary?
[10:22] <Choubaka> Echelon-H: like from hebrew letters to roman letters
[10:22] <ubermonzie> hi all
[10:22] <Choubaka> or chinese kanji to roman letters.
[10:22] <Choubaka> or roman letters to chinese -_-
[10:22] <dhimass_sby> hi all
[10:22] <Echelon-H> Oh
[10:22] <rj`> 
[10:22] <yahalom> Choubaka, still not. i even rebooted
[10:22] <dmoyne> bob2, any idea to reset CUPS ?
[10:22] <danba> jdizzle: read point 10 http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats .
[10:22] <Echelon-H> Jormundgand, Ahzor Beshnia.
[10:22] <dhimass_sby> anybody can help me
[10:22] <danba> I agree.
[10:22] <Choubaka> yahalom: I guess it's something else then :/
[10:22] <Echelon-H> Jormundgand, if you're still intrested ;)
[10:23] <Choubaka> Weird.
[10:23] <nern> hey there
[10:23] <jeff25> hoary-extras-staging is probably not a good idea to use.  Every package has a dep on gcc4.0 heh
[10:23] <japoeder> does anyone have any suggestions for dvd playback.  I tried the method in the unofficial guide but apparently the libdvdcss2 file is no longer available
[10:23] <dhimass_sby> anybody can help me
[10:23] <thoreauputic> dhimass_sby: don't ask to ask, just ask
[10:23] <jdizzle> ty
[10:23] <Echelon-H> japoeder, try vlc player?
[10:23] <dhimass_sby> ok thanks
[10:23] <Dalkus> "Warning: could not grab  your mouse, a malicious client may be monitering you screen" What do I do when I get that?
[10:23] <jeff25> japoeder: libdvdcss2 is on backports
[10:23] <japoeder> where do I get vlc player
[10:23] <Echelon-H> japoeder, if something is not playing on vlc, it will never play.
[10:23] <danba> thoreauputic: hey, I liked how he said that anyone can help him, though...
[10:24] <dhimass_sby> how to clone my ubuntu disk?
[10:24] <dmoyne> I can no more install printers with CUPS any idea to solve the problem ?
[10:24] <thoreauputic> danba: heh - this remains to be seen however ;)
[10:24] <danba> !restricted japoeder
[10:24] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, danba
[10:24] <danba> japoeder: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats .
[10:24] <Echelon-H> japoeder, sudo apt-get install vlc
[10:24] <yahalom> Choubaka, in /etc/hdparm.conf is it meant to be: # -q be quiet
[10:24] <yahalom> quiet
[10:24] <japoeder> thanks
[10:25] <Choubaka> yahalom: hehh, yeah -_-
[10:25] <Echelon-H> anyone here maybe knows of a hardware support channel on IRC?
[10:25] <yahalom> Choubaka, man what could it be? nothing in hdparm?
[10:25] <Choubaka> possibly.
[10:25] <yahalom> Choubaka,can u check my hdparm plz?
[10:25] <dhimass_sby> anyone have idea, how to clone my ubuntu disk? as backup
[10:26] <Echelon-H> dhimass_sby, re-burn it? or download the iso again?
[10:26] <Choubaka> yahalom: paste hdparm -i /dev/hda to pastebin
[10:26] <Dalkus> Echelon-H, maybe he got the packaged CD
[10:26] <Choubaka> and are you sure hda is your hard disk? :P
[10:26] <yahalom> Choubaka, yes
[10:26] <Choubaka> ok.
[10:27] <dhimass_sby> up-s sorry , i mean my harddisk
[10:27] <dhimass_sby> with ubuntu inside
[10:27] <jdizzle> whats best media player for hoary release (that plays like mp3 and mpeg files)
[10:27] <nern> totem
[10:28] <Dalkus> xine, mplayer are far better than totem, I find
[10:28] <Choubaka> mplayer crashes my computer -_-
[10:28] <espiem> hello
[10:28] <Echelon-H> vlc player can play everything.
[10:28] <ubermonzie> vlc is good
[10:28] <ubermonzie> xine is my fave
[10:28] <jdizzle> anything similar to winamp?
[10:28] <Choubaka> Echelon-H: not vmw
[10:28] <ubermonzie> runs without troubles
[10:28] <yahalom> Choubaka, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/292544
[10:28] <Choubaka> jdizzle: xmms
[10:28] <dhimass_sby> but in xine, crashes my comp too
[10:28] <espiem> please anybody tell me how to install splash screen?
[10:28] <Dalkus> xmms is a clone of winamp
[10:28] <ubermonzie> gxine is not stable though
[10:28] <Dalkus> and also beep-media-player, is also a clone
[10:28] <ubermonzie> xmms is good for mp3 too
[10:29] <BeTa> aahaha !! I've found !! to add or remove items from gnome menus, you have to the "system tools" menu and launch "Add/Remove programs" or somthing like that (I'm using an internationalized gnome)
[10:29] <jeff25> totem sucks
[10:29] <Choubaka> yahalom: it's missing the closing bracket.
[10:29] <dhimass_sby> up-s sorry , i mean to clone my harddisk with ubuntu inside
[10:29] <BeTa> totem sucks... in fact... does someone here can read multimedia files w/ totem ? it is crashing everytimes here !!
[10:29] <Choubaka> yahalom: and you only have a section for /dev/cdrom
[10:29] <thoreauputic> bet0x: umm - that removes the program, not just the menu entry
[10:30] <ubermonzie> totem doesnt work in ununtu
[10:30] <BeTa> all right
[10:30] <Choubaka> it doesn't?
[10:30] <danba> jdizzle: normally, I think, one uses a music, and a separate video player...some people prefer this or that one, but enabling all repositories, and searching synaptic for player under name and description may give you a list of all of them. You can try and decide for yourself.
[10:30] <Choubaka> ubermonzie: why?
[10:30] <ubermonzie> in Debian Sarge, totem works like a gem
[10:30] <yahalom> Choubaka, sorry that wasnt all of it: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/292545
[10:30] <Burgundavia> jeff25, ubermonzie there is known problem with totem-gstreamer and ATI drivers
[10:30] <yahalom> Choubaka, go to the next one
[10:30] <espiem> please. anybody knows how to replace default splash screen in ubuntu?
[10:30] <Choubaka> yahalom: oh, looks cool
[10:30] <Burgundavia> jeff25, ubermonzie install totem-xine, works like a charm
[10:30] <Choubaka> it's fine.
[10:30] <thoreauputic> BeTa: install totem-xine
[10:30] <BeTa> that's sad to know that all multimedia files are launched w/ totem !! and that totem crash everytime
[10:30] <dhimass_sby> hallo , i mean to clone my harddisk with ubuntu inside
[10:30] <BeTa> all right
[10:30] <yahalom> Choubaka, so nothing there huh?
[10:31] <ubermonzie> will try it Burgundavia, thanks
[10:31] <BeTa> thx thoreauputic
[10:31] <poofyhair> hi
[10:31] <joan_> algun espaol??
[10:31] <Choubaka> yahalom: yes, it's fine :p
[10:31] <yahalom> Choubaka, so what can i do?
[10:31] <jeff25> Burgundavia: I compile xine from cvs
[10:31] <yahalom> Choubaka, anyway of totally cleaning gnome and reinstalling it? kde and xfce work great, so i dont get it
[10:31] <danba> espiem: http://art.gnome.org/faq.php#q8 does know that
[10:31] <giggsey> w00t, got my Rammstein album working at last ;P
[10:31] <danba> !es
[10:32] <Choubaka> yahalom: I guess it's a gnome problem then :|
[10:32] <espiem> thanks danba
[10:32] <Choubaka> I use XFCE4. :/
[10:32] <yahalom> Choubaka, how do i remove gnome and reinstall it?
[10:32] <Choubaka> hmm.
[10:32] <dmoyne> please do you have this file in your system "/etc/cups/cupsd.conf" I do not !
[10:32] <Choubaka> I don't remember all the packages.
[10:32] <yahalom> Choubaka, me too, my wife likes gnome though
[10:32] <danba> nice..., joan_, Para los usuarios debian de habla hispa?a que requieren la ayuda, ensamble por favor el canal del #ubuntu-es
[10:32] <nern> we i had to reinstall
[10:33] <yahalom> Choubaka, ok man thanx :) hey isnt cdrom1 meant to show up in xffm now?
[10:33] <danba> ok, first time using that one...
[10:33] <jdizzle> there a program that will run streaming video for hoary like Windows media
[10:33] <yahalom> Choubaka, i only have cdrom0 showing up in xffm
[10:33] <Choubaka> you probably don't have cdrom1 in /etc/fstab
[10:33] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: yes, i have it (the file)
[10:33] <Choubaka> edit the file
[10:33] <Choubaka> just copy the /dev/cdrom entry and rename the device file
[10:34] <dmoyne> thoreauputic, which package is it part of ?
[10:34] <selavagh> would it be good to do a reinstall of Ubuntu, as i found out it is quite fast, so to install LVM?
[10:34] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: I assume it comes with cups
[10:34] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: hang on a sec
[10:34] <dmoyne> thoreauputic, thanks
[10:34] <yahalom> Choubaka, udf,iso9660 ro,user,noatio  this is for a cdwriter, what is for a plain one?
[10:35] <Choubaka> yahalom: probably the same.
[10:35] <Fator_Dee> jdizzle: mplayer, xine, vlc and others
[10:35] <yahalom> Choubaka, ok thanx man
[10:35] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: peter@prospero:~$ dpkg -S /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
[10:35] <thoreauputic> cupsys: /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
[10:35] <Choubaka> possibly no udf
[10:35] <nern> SO
[10:35] <Choubaka> but I don't really know :)
[10:35] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: so, cupsys
[10:35] <Echelon-H> Choubaka, Don;t you need to spell it Chewbacca?
[10:35] <Choubaka> Echelon-H: no.
[10:35] <nern> whenever Breezy gets released will it be possible to simply edit sources.list and dist-upgrade? I mean, did that work with Warty to Hoary?
[10:35] <Choubaka> My nick isn't even pronounced like that.
[10:36] <Choubaka> :D
[10:36] <jeff25> blackbox deb is broken on main
[10:36] <Echelon-H> Choubaka, k :P
[10:36] <danba> jdizzle: unfortunately, it does not always work, this is a walkthrough for setting up MPlayer for that, http://ubuntuguide.org/#mplayer .
[10:36] <Choubaka> I always get the chewbacca jokes. :(
[10:36] <danba> jdizzle: do you have a good sources.list file?
[10:36] <Fator_Dee> nern: it worked with hoary, and I think it will work with breezy too
[10:36] <dmoyne> thoreauputic, I have cupsys installed though and not this file
[10:37] <nern> Fator_Dee: good, that means that this is officially the greatest distro ever :)
[10:37] <Fator_Dee> nern: yep :-)
[10:37] <japoeder> is there a reason why someone would not be able to access the backports repository?
[10:37] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: well, that's odd
[10:37] <danba> jdizzle: also, that is provided you use a 386 kernel, to find out which one you are using, type in uname -r in a terminal
[10:37] <nern> japoeder: the ubuntu forums one?
[10:37] <japoeder> yeah
[10:37] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: you aren't using breezy, are you?
[10:38] <jdizzle> danba: i know which version, and its a 386
[10:38] <danba> nern, always remove all but main repositories before upgrading a version, I believe.
[10:38] <dmoyne>  thoreauputic, what do you mean by "breazy" ?
[10:38] <dhimass_sby> how to clone my harddisk with ubuntu inside
[10:38] <Choubaka> dhimass_sby: hm
[10:38] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: what does ` cat /etc/issue` return on your machine?
[10:38] <Choubaka> dhimass_sby: do you want to clone it into a file?
[10:38] <danba> good, then follow that, if you have good sources.list(/etc/apt/sources.list) this is a good one : www.mts.net/~danb/sources.list ...
[10:38] <Choubaka> or to another hd?
[10:39] <dhimass_sby> to onother
[10:39] <dhimass_sby> to another
[10:39] <dhimass_sby> disk
[10:39] <Choubaka> ok, that's more difficult.
[10:39] <dmoyne>  thoreauputic : "Hoary Hedgehog" \n \l
[10:39] <japoeder> I get this message when I try to upload it http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports/dists/hoary-extras/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 403 Forbidden
[10:39] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: OK
[10:39] <Choubaka> dhimass_sby: in fact, I don't know how to do it :/
[10:39] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: breezy is the development version
[10:39] <Choubaka> I guess you need cpio or something
[10:39] <nern> japoeder - here are the repos to use if you want the backports; like i do ;)
[10:39] <dhimass_sby> ok
[10:40] <nern> japoeder - http://pastebin.ca/13009
[10:40] <dmoyne>  thoreauputic, what can I do to reset all this ?
[10:40] <dhimass_sby> thanx
[10:40] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: Hoary is the current stable release: try running ` sudo apt-get install --reinstall cupsys`
[10:40] <japoeder> thanks
[10:41] <danba> japoeder: nern, do not use backports like that, use them as a repository that is always commented out, except when you are looking for a specific program, am I right here?
[10:41] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: or ` sudo dpkg-reconfigure cupsys` if that doesn't help
[10:41] <dmoyne>  thoreauputic, ok I do and keep you posted !
[10:41] <thoreauputic> danba: better still, don't use backports at all
[10:41] <my_haz> how do i find the use of bandwidth using the command line
[10:42] <my_haz> link the bandwidth thing in top right of gnome window manager
[10:42] <my_haz> and how do i do an update of apts using the command line, like the read button on top in right of gnome
[10:42] <Shufla> hi :D
[10:42] <danba> well, thoreauputic not sure about that... maybe they have a reason, perhaps, maybe better than some other options, although, yeah, I mean, I have not had them in there since I screwe up my first Hoary upgrade : )
[10:43] <iamnow> hello
[10:43] <thoreauputic> danba: i think th ebackports maintainers are on crack, frankly
[10:43] <iamnow> does the nautilus cd burner work with wav file to cd audio?
[10:43] <danba> ok, I am gonna believe you cause you know more.
[10:43] <Shufla> funny. i've got amd64 with 64bit hoary. and while trying to print with oowriter there's message in console: sh: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib32/libpangohack.so.0.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:43] <Shufla> and my system won't print :(
[10:44] <my_haz> Shufla: do you have that so file?
[10:44] <my_haz> Shufla: you might have a later/newer version
[10:44] <thoreauputic> iamnow: no, install gnomebaker
[10:44] <Shufla> my_haz: no. i know where it is. but my system is 32bit...
[10:44] <dmoyne>  thoreauputic, after doing all these commands successfully I stil do not get "cupsd.conf" in /etc/cups" ! ; I try to install printers
[10:44] <iamnow> thoreauputic: ok thanks
[10:44] <my_haz> Shufla: so how about a ln
[10:44] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: very weird
[10:45] <Shufla> my_haz: not ubuntu-friendly. well. i've got package with that file (ia32-libs-gtk), but that file do not exist :D
[10:45] <dmoyne>  thoreauputic, it does not work !
[10:46] <Shufla> ok. i'll just reinstall it
[10:46] <my_haz> ya do that
[10:46] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: I can maybe paste a copy of mine for you on pastebin.ubuntu.com (no guarantees that will work for you -)
[10:46] <jeff25> rot-tail owns
[10:47] <Shufla> but... it has disappered. that's not nice :/
[10:47] <dmoyne>  thoreauputic, with synaptic I have both Ubuntu and Debian repositries install ; maybe I can try to paste this file first !
[10:47] <danba> my_haz: sudo aptitude upgrade for command line red applet in gnome-panel .
[10:47] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: oh dear - you should *not* do that
[10:47] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: you have conflicts because your sources are mixed
[10:48] <dmoyne>  thoreauputic, then what can I do to clean !
[10:48] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: do *not* use debian sources with ubuntu : it's a recipe for disaster
[10:48] <dmoyne>  thoreauputic, yes but at the very beginning it was the only way to get KDE
[10:49] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: clean up your /etc/apt/sources.list and do an apt-get update && apt-get dist upgrade, and pray a lot
[10:49] <thoreauputic> get rid of those debian sources
[10:49] <danba> my_haz: as for bandwidth, http://pastebin.com/292551 not sure if that is what you want, though.
[10:49] <Shufla> ooooooops! that file exist /usr/lib32/libpangohack.so.0.0, but oowriter says: sh: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib32/libpangohack.so.0.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:50] <Shufla> i run ldconfig...
[10:50] <mrzac> I installed the xorg-driver-fglrx for my ati card but it doesn't work. how do I make it work?
[10:50] <dmoyne>  thoreauputic, I typically use synaptic ; I will go to this graphical app and do it and report afterrwards ; thanks
[10:50] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: good luck
[10:51] <Shufla> 
[10:51] <syntaxman> I'm hunting around on the documentation web site, and don't see anything about source.list entries
[10:52] <danba> btw, does mttscorefonts get rid of the sign I am seeing instead of Shufla's last message?
[10:53] <thoreauputic> syntaxman: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[10:53] <Shufla> danba: it was leftalt+control+r with accitentaly enter :D
[10:53] <Fikrann> danba, no, since it wasn't UTF-8 character.
[10:54] <danba> yeah, I have those installed anyhow, it turns out.
[10:54] <dmoyne>  thoreauputic, editing my  /etc/apt/sources.list shows only thes 2 lines :
[10:54] <prasys> bbl
[10:54] <dmoyne> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-security main restricted universe multiverse
[10:54] <dmoyne> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted universe multiverse
[10:55] <syntaxman> thoreauputic: thank you.
[10:55] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: you only have main and security there
[10:56] <dmoyne>  thoreauputic, what do I need ?
[10:56] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: read the url I posted for syntaxman
[10:56] <danba> well, he has universe, multiverse as well, and restricted:)
[10:56] <thoreauputic> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[10:56] <Shufla> fck. i'm so lagged :(
[10:57] <thoreauputic> danba: no, only for security
[10:57] <thoreauputic> hoary-security main restricted universe multiverse
[10:57] <Seveas> thoreauputic, ehm, read please :)
[10:57] <thoreauputic> oops
[10:57] <Seveas> the line below :)
[10:57] <thoreauputic> sorry my bad
[10:57] <Seveas> ;)
[10:57] <danba> thats cool, we'll lynch you after.
[10:57] <Seveas> hehe
[10:57] <dmoyne>  thoreauputic, how do I access this URL for syntaxman
[10:57] <thoreauputic> :)
[10:58] <banana> how can i start fx in safe mode?
[10:58] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: I was wrong- your sources look OK
[10:58] <banana> does anybody get a bloated context menu (the menu you get when you click on your secondary mouse button) in Fx?
[10:58] <mrzac> I installed the xorg-driver-fglrx for my ati card but it doesn't work. how do I make it work?
[10:58] <palmstrom> Hello, I have some problem with apt. I installed package totem-xine (it removed totem-gstreamer). Package totem depends on totem-gstreamer or totem-xine. Automatic update on startup wants install totem-gstreamer and remove totem-xine. How can I tell apt to not install totem-gstreamer at all?
[10:58] <Seveas> mrzac: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:59] <banana> Bloated means, for example, getting options for hyperlinks even when you haven't 2ndary-button-clicked on a hyperlink.
[11:00] <danba> thoreauputic: no, they dont really, altho, they kinda do, try the ones here, I mean,...http://www.mts.net/~danb/sources.list
[11:00] <danba> banana: sorry for being dumb, what is fx?
[11:00] <dmoyne>  thoreauputic, so then it is relly odd as everybody has this file "cupsd.conf" in /etc/cups" ! !
[11:00] <JaneW> http://code.google.com/summerofcode.html
[11:00] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: it is, very odd
[11:01] <banana> danba, firefox. that's what the makers suggest as the nickname.
[11:01] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: you could try purging cupsys and reinstalling it I guess
[11:01] <dmoyne>  thoreauputic, how you do this with apt commands !
[11:01] <danba> banana: thank you.
[11:01] <Seveas> JaneW, wow!
[11:02] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: sudo apt-get remove --purge cupsys && sudo apt-get install cupsys
[11:02] <Seveas> JaneW, that's a great initiative :)
[11:02] <mrzac> seveas: thanks
[11:02] <danba> yeah, not bad, I must say I wil definitely consider applying.
[11:02] <JaneW> Seveas: :)
[11:03] <banana> how do i start firefox in safe mode?
[11:03] <InitMass> is scsi enabled by default in hoary?
[11:03] <Seveas> banana, safe mode..?
[11:03] <danba> mozilla-firefox -safe-mode
[11:04] <danba> also see: man mozilla-firefox
[11:04] <dmoyne>  thoreauputic, ah this error message : when deleting cupsys, directory /etc/cups was not empty then it was not deleted !
[11:04] <danba> or see also, rather.:)
[11:04] <banana> Seveas, yes, coz i'm getting an un-contextualized "context menu" when i "right-click" in Firefox. For example, I'm getting the option to "Save Link As..." even though I've not clicked on a link.
[11:05] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: that's normal - it just means it hasn't delete the directory - the contents should be deleted
[11:05] <gandalf__> i accidentally froze xmms, anyone know how to kill it?
[11:05] <danba> thoreauputic: again I disagree.
[11:05] <Choubaka> gandalf__: killall xmms
[11:05] <danba> what command did you use dmoyne?
[11:05] <thoreauputic> danba: OK - I need more coffee
[11:06] <dmoyne>  thoreauputic, what you provided : inside now just
[11:06] <danba> no, no, you are good, just wanted to correct you on that single point...
[11:06] <gandalf__> thanks choubaka
[11:07] <danba> banana: I have posted the safe mode syntax, did you get that?
[11:07] <banana> danba, in flood channel?
[11:07] <banana> danba, please do so again, as i've just joined that channel.
[11:07] <danba> right above your question to seveas
[11:08] <danba> or right under your question about it.
[11:08] <dmoyne> thoreauputic, apparently after removinf most of the content of "/etc/cups" (just printer.conf remaining, nothing was reinstalled
[11:08] <flankk> um.. i just installed ubuntu.. it never requested me to set a root password, and it is now prompting me to enter one to su, wtf?
[11:08] <NicP> dont use su flankk
[11:08] <NicP> use sudo
[11:08] <NicP> root isnt enable by default
[11:08] <NicP> enabled
[11:08] <flankk> NicP, but i need to run a program that requires feedback..
[11:08] <danba> sudo command
[11:09] <NicP> sudo program
[11:09] <banana> danba, found it, thanks!
[11:09] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: well, i don't know - somehow you've broken cups, but how I can't figure out
[11:09] <danba> welcome... check out that it is not a feature, though, look in your extensions, maybe an extension that behaves like taht.
[11:10] <flankk> NicP, the program i am trying to run su requires feedback, how can i do that with sudo?
[11:10] <hannes_> sudo su
[11:10] <hannes_> :P
[11:10] <NicP> type sudo then the program
[11:10] <dmoyne>  thoreauputic, I thought that some apt commands were designed to bring coherency back !
[11:10] <NicP> its a terminal program yes?
[11:10] <flankk> NicP, yes
[11:11] <NicP> so type sudo command
[11:11] <NicP> where command is the programs name
[11:11] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: you could try ` sudo apt-get -f install ` without any packages - sometimes that helps
[11:11] <flankk> NicP, it doesn't prompt for feedback, it just runs the program....
[11:11] <far0k> how is ubunyus wireless network support out of the box?
[11:11] <far0k> ubuntu*
[11:11] <NicP> what program?
[11:11] <NicP> it should work the same as if you had used su
[11:11] <Seveas> far0k, fairly good if you do not use WPA or 802.1x
[11:12] <danba> thoreauputic: can he update?
[11:12] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: make sure you do ` sudo apt-get update` first
[11:12] <Fikrann> far0k, what chipset?
[11:12] <dmoyne>  thoreauputic, apparently all now is back after using your last command ; I am triny now to install a printer !
[11:12] <thoreauputic> danba: heh - just thought of the same thing as you - again
[11:13] <thoreauputic> ah, good
[11:13] <flankk> NicP, works as user, when i sudo, it drops me at prompt..
[11:13] <danba> yeah: ) I was jus thinking the same thing.
[11:13] <NicP> flankk, what kind of feedback do you mean?
[11:13] <far0k> its a dlink something or other its actually on my m8s comp or i would check
[11:13] <flankk> NicP, i am expecting a prompt for input like it does when i run it as user..
[11:13] <danba> NicP: I guess its time for http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo ?
[11:13] <far0k> just other distros like suse have detected it but then just not work
[11:14] <flankk> danba, tx
[11:14] <NicP> flankk, if its not a terminal program you will have to use gksudo
[11:14] <Seveas> far0k, you might need to use ndiswrapper
[11:14] <flankk> NicP, it is a terminal program.
[11:14] <NicP> i dunno why it wouldnt work then
[11:14] <NicP> sudo su ;)
[11:15] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: so you now have cupsd.conf ?
[11:15] <flankk> NicP, that is messed up.
[11:15] <NicP> what program is it?
[11:15] <flankk> NicP, works though..
[11:16] <flankk> NicP, mb it checks for a login shell? i have no clue, it works as sudo su
[11:16] <zoop81> Hi, anyone know anything about the ALSA breakage in breezy?
[11:17] <danba> zoop81: I have heard of it, I dont think anyone here will help you cause of the /topic
[11:18] <danba> wel, cause of the reason that is in the topic, or some bigger picture a newbie like me cant get(or does not feel like explaining at this late hour)...
[11:18] <Fikrann> zoop81, I didn't have any problems with alsa in breezy .. maybe because I wire alsa sound modules into kernel.
[11:19] <zoop81> Fikrann: Yeah well. It's most probably a problem with the ubuntu kernel, so if you're building your own...
[11:21] <jdizzle> what dvd player does every1 use for hoary
[11:21] <NicP> i use totem and vlc
[11:22] <Fikrann> zoop81, that's the first thing I'm doing for every linux install I set up.
[11:23] <NicP> works fine for me
[11:23] <zaydana> how do i remove certain programs from the "open with" list for a .cpp file, and how do i set the default program?
[11:24] <zoop81> Fikrann: I used to do that too but stopped a year or so ago...
[11:25] <nern> WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEe
[11:25] <ogi_> Anybody else who has got problems with the file transfer speeds in gaim?
[11:26] <Fikrann> zoop81, I see that as one of more important steps to configure the system to hardware .. besides, I tend to have a lot 'unstandard' hardware around.
[11:26] <nullix> thoreauputic, I am in bettter shapes ecept that I have now a user/password problem to access CUPS server how can I set new ones ?
[11:27] <thoreauputic> nullix: I don't understand the question, sorry - are you trying to use the wen interface to cups in a browser? If so, it's disabled by default in Ubuntu
[11:28] <thoreauputic> *s/wen/web
[11:28] <nullix> thoreauputic, yes with port 631 !
[11:29] <thoreauputic> nullix: use the graphical tool in gnome: it's pretty easy and uses your normal password
[11:29] <BAfH> is there any timeplan, when the g++ and dbus migration of breezy will be fixed?
[11:29] <nullix>  thoreauputic, what is its name ?
[11:29] <thoreauputic> nullix: umm - I'm in fluxbox at the moment - hang on a tic
[11:29] <Fikrann> BAfH, there is none.
[11:30] <BAfH> Fikrann: non timeplan or non migration? :-)
[11:30] <thoreauputic> nullix: gnome-cups-manager I think
[11:31] <Fikrann> BAfH, no timeplan. It all happens when package maintainers feel it's the right thing to do.
[11:31] <thoreauputic> nullix: yup that looks like the one
[11:31] <BAfH> Fikrann: i thought so ;)
[11:31] <jsgotangco> JaneW, hey
[11:32] <zaydana> can somebody tell me how do remove certain programs from the "open with" list for a .cpp file in nautilus, and how do i set the default program?
[11:32] <Fikrann> BAfH, out of curiosity, do you have Openoffice installed?
[11:32] <jack664614894> ubuntu is good
[11:32] <jack664614894> linux
[11:32] <nullix>  thoreauputic, yes apparently I can in supervisor mode add printers ; thanks I will try with this and let you breeze !
[11:33] <jack664614894> ubuntu is 'good'
[11:33] <jack664614894> ubuntu is a ikan kampung
[11:33] <jack664614894> hahhaa
[11:33] <Fikrann> zaydana, I believe I've seen that in Nautilus help file, but I can't recall how it was done.
[11:33] <jack664614894> ubuntu is a selfish
[11:34] <jack664614894> ubuntu likes a shit
[11:34] <Fator_Dee> zaydana: right click on file -> properties -> open with ? IIRC
[11:34] <Choubaka> hmm.
[11:34] <thoreauputic> jack664614894: either say something useful or go away, please
[11:35] <jack664614894> hahahahahhaqhaha
[11:35] <jack664614894> u first
[11:35] <jack664614894> i am the crazy people
[11:35] <jack664614894> u
[11:35] <jack664614894> die
[11:35] <jack664614894> in my hand
[11:35] <thoreauputic> !ops
[11:35] <ubotu> Meet your friendly #osia operators: cafuego
[11:35] <jack664614894> and u will eat my smelly shit
[11:35] <jack664614894> hahahaa
[11:35] <Fator_Dee> aren't we a mature one :-<
[11:35] <Choubaka> I wish we wouldn't get retards like him here.
[11:35] <kestas> my first thing with gimp-> http://img130.echo.cx/my.php?image=phpdiplomacy8vm.png
[11:36] <Fikrann> zaydana, listen to Fator_Dee
[11:36] <kestas> pretty slick eh?
[11:36] <ubuntufans> ubuntu is a dog'shit
[11:36] <zaydana> heh
[11:36] <ubuntufans> it likes the shit
[11:36] <ubuntufans> hahahahahaha
[11:36] <Choubaka> But I guess some people don't even have the intelligence of an amoeba :)
[11:36] <Fator_Dee> bob2?
[11:36] <ubuntufans> bob 2 had die
[11:36] <ubuntufans> i kill him
[11:36] <Fikrann> kestas, looks like phpBB default theme };>
[11:36] <zaydana> Fator_Dee ... does that mean you know about file handling in nautilus or was fikrann just stating the obvious?
[11:36] <ubuntufans> i am the famous killer
[11:37] <ubuntufans> hahahahahahahaha
[11:37] <zaydana> anybody got ops in here? :-/
[11:37] <kestas> Fikrann: ahh yes.. what a coincidence ;p
[11:37] <thoreauputic> coming soon ...
[11:37] <Choubaka> ubuntufans: haa haa haa. You're unfunny.
[11:37] <ubuntufans> u all is stupid as a donkey
[11:37] <Choubaka> excellent. :D
[11:37] <thoreauputic> thanks bob2
[11:37] <zaydana> hooray.
[11:37] <Choubaka> back for more, eh.
[11:37] <Seveas> zaydana, no, it's spelt hoary :)
[11:37] <Fator_Dee> zaydana: I mentioned the way to file handling above, but I'm not exactly sure about the names
[11:38] <zaydana> o i see
[11:38] <zaydana> srry
[11:38] <zaydana> seveas... thats almost a joke my maths teacher would make :p
[11:38] <Fator_Dee> zaydana: it's been a while since I used nautilus, but right click on the file and properties, you should find it there
[11:38] <zaydana> k thanks
[11:38] <BAfH> Fikrann: yes
[11:39] <BAfH> Fikrann: 1.1.3 und 1.9.79.2
[11:39] <Choubaka> Hahaha. he queried me. :D
[11:39] <zaydana> yup that worked thanks fator
[11:39] <Fator_Dee> zaydana: no prob
[11:39] <Choubaka> I hope he stays there spewing crap to /dev/null
[11:39] <Fikrann> BAfH, on Breezy?
[11:40] <BAfH> yes
[11:40] <UbuntuPenguin> Hello all, i have problem with iptables port redirecting in Ubuntu. Any saviour for my?
[11:40] <Fikrann> BAfH, can you do a favour for me?
[11:40] <Fator_Dee> UbuntuPenguin: firestarter is a good front end to iptables, maybe you could use that?
[11:40] <BAfH> Fikrann: maybe ;)
[11:40] <bob2> 19:39:26     ubuntufans | i will kill you
[11:40] <Choubaka> bob2: :D
[11:40] <Fator_Dee> bob2: ooh, you must be scared now :-<
[11:40] <Choubaka> He queried me and saluted himself, too.
[11:40] <zaydana> another question... is there a way to make an app in the menu run as root by default
[11:40] <zaydana> ?
[11:41] <Choubaka> he said, "hi idiot"
[11:41] <cyphase> lol
[11:41] <UbuntuPenguin> Fator_Dee: But i require pure iptables soulution. ;-((
[11:41] <Seveas> zaydana, edit the .desktop file and make sure it runs gksudo $NAME_OF_APP
[11:41] <Fator_Dee> zaydana: put a gksudo in front of the command, then it'll query you for a password
[11:41] <zaydana> ah k
[11:41] <Hajuu> What package do I need to apt-get to be able to make and configure shit?
[11:41] <zaydana> thanks
[11:41] <zaydana> .desktop file?
[11:41] <Seveas> Hajuu, a toilet?
[11:41] <Fikrann> BAfH, Can you open up OO and click on any menu item?
[11:41] <BAfH> Fikrann: what should i do?
[11:41] <Choubaka> UbuntuPenguin: Firestarter just generates an iptables file.
[11:41] <Choubaka> script, even
[11:41] <Seveas> Hajuu, try build-essential :)
[11:42] <BAfH> Fikrann: wait ... have to login with x-forward ;)
[11:42] <BAfH> Fikrann: oo1 or oo2?
[11:42] <UbuntuPenguin> Choubaka: ;-((((((
[11:42] <Fikrann> UbuntuPenguin, try Shoreline Firewall?
[11:42] <Choubaka> What's with the face? :p
[11:42] <bob2> Fator_Dee: thanks for notifying me
[11:42] <zaydana> where will i find this .desktop file?
[11:42] <bob2> i fI'm not around, I'm more likely to appear if my nick hilighting goes off
[11:42] <Fikrann> BAfH, I'm just curious if it'll crash for you as well.
[11:43] <Fator_Dee> bob2: I guessed you would handle the problem :-)
[11:43] <UbuntuPenguin> Fikrann: I require only one command, but it not work. Only one iptables definition. ;-(((
[11:43] <Fikrann> BAfH, and both versions are suspectible
[11:43] <Hajuu_> sorry bout that
[11:43] <Hajuu_> disconnected
[11:43] <Seveas> zaydana, in /usr/share/applications
[11:43] <Hajuu_> so?
[11:43] <banana> bob2, how long does a ban's effect last?
[11:44] <zaydana> coolios
[11:44] <Seveas> Hajuu, try build-essential :)
[11:44] <Hajuu_> thanks
[11:44] <Fikrann> UbuntuPenguin, I haven't used raw iptables in ages, sorry.
[11:44] <bob2> banana: until someone removes it
[11:44] <UbuntuPenguin> Fikrann: :((
[11:44] <banana> bob2, does anybody in this chatroom have the power to remove it? or only the room manager?
[11:45] <bob2> banana: only channel operators can add and remove bans
[11:45] <banana> bob2, how did you get to become an operator?
[11:45] <bob2> banana: by spending entirely too much time here
[11:46] <banana> So you mean another operator gave you the title?
[11:46] <bob2> yes
[11:46] <Hajuu_> I have a cd with some burned files, which I added the hidden property to in windows before I burned them.. how can I see these files in linux, and/or remove this property?
[11:47] <bob2> Hajuu_: does 'ls -a' show them?
[11:47] <thoreauputic> bob2: is it Ok to /msg you directly if we need ops?
[11:47] <bob2> thoreauputic: of course
[11:47] <thoreauputic> OK thanks
[11:47] <Fikrann> Hajuu_, you rarely can remove something from CD-R
[11:47] <bob2> thoreauputic: but if you /msg me, you're going to be off the end of my screen, mentioning my nick in here will get my attention more quickly
[11:48] <thoreauputic> bob2: OK fine - will do
[11:48] <Hajuu_> bob2:  nah ls -a doesnt show them
[11:48] <UbuntuPenguin> Here is nobody who use pure iptables?
[11:48] <Hajuu_> Fikrann:  I didnt mean while they were on the cd heh
[11:48] <Olsen> UbuntuPenguin: i used a lot
[11:48] <Olsen> UbuntuPenguin: why
[11:49] <BAfH> hmmm
[11:49] <BAfH> Fikrann: have to run setup first ;)
[11:49] <Fikrann> BAfH, Ouch... Sorry
[11:49] <BAfH> hmmm
[11:50] <banana> bob2, can that ubuntufan guy come back by changing his ip address? can one change ip addresses?
[11:50] <BAfH> the output couldn forwarded trough ssh it seems
[11:50] <bob2> banana: yes
[11:50] <mikl> banana: It's not that easy to change IP-adress
[11:50] <bob2> banana: and it depends.  if you're on dialup internet, it probably changes everytime you dial.
[11:50] <nern> hey hey hey
[11:50] <bob2> banana: if you're on dsl/cable, it will change less often, in general
[11:50] <Fator_Dee> mikl: actually it depends
[11:50] <Hajuu_> ok now how do I build a makefile?
[11:50] <Fator_Dee> mikl: for me it's all to easy to change it
[11:51] <tiglionabbit> http://mpt.net.nz/archive/2005/04/11/ubuntu  <-- Isn't this guy a moron?
[11:51] <mikl> Fator_Dee: oh, in that case .. :)
[11:51] <bob2> tiglionabbit: no
[11:51] <bob2> tiglionabbit: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct
[11:51] <Fator_Dee> mikl: but that doesn't mean that I'm going to go havoc in here :-p
[11:51] <tiglionabbit> the vast majority of his gripes are wrong and pointless
[11:51] <BAfH> Fikrann: i'm to lame to use it over ssh-forward
[11:51] <bob2> Hajuu_: in general or for a partocular bit of software?
[11:51] <bob2> tiglionabbit: er, that would be entirely subjective
[11:52] <Hajuu_> bob2: for a game called lincity heh
[11:52] <Fikrann> BAfH, Owie
[11:52] <thoreauputic> tiglionabbit: I think you misunderstand his motives
[11:52] <mikl> tiglionabbit: Well, he has his opinion, and we although our opinions are different, his are not necessarily idiotic
[11:52] <tiglionabbit> k
[11:52] <bob2> tiglionabbit: he was pointing things out so they can be fixed, not ripping on ubuntu.  note he works for the company producing ubuntu.
[11:53] <tiglionabbit> oh
[11:53] <bob2> tiglionabbit: also, two of the gnome founders cite the list as a useful list of things to fix.
[11:53] <tiglionabbit> but some things he gripes about are easily fixable with configuration.  Especially the section on Gaim
[11:53] <Hajuu_> anyone?
[11:53] <bob2> tiglionabbit: right, but sane defaults is an important thing in itself
[11:53] <Hajuu_> heh
[11:53] <bob2> Hajuu_: lincity is in ubuntu...
[11:54] <thoreauputic> tiglionabbit: read the disclaimer at the bottom of the piece :)
[11:54] <tiglionabbit> yeah I know
[11:54] <gandalf__> i downloaded cedega, but don't have permission to extract it to my hard drive...how do i add it?
[11:54] <yahalom> where does ubuntu store all my icons?
[11:54] <Hajuu_> bob2: Well my install didn't come with it.
[11:54] <banana> tiglionabbit, his boss, the boss who provided him with the computer to test ubuntu, is none other than Mark Shuttleworth, the founder of Ubuntu. The critic is writing to make Ubuntu better. I appreciate his sharp eyes.
[11:54] <tiglionabbit> do you know what could have caused #27 for him?  I don't understand that one
[11:54] <Fator_Dee> tiglionabbit: even if there are some points that are kind of... pointless, there a still lot's of things to be corrected
[11:54] <bob2> Hajuu_: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[11:54] <mischa> hi everyone
[11:54] <bob2> Hajuu_: it's in the universe repository
[11:55] <bob2> tiglionabbit: gnome-session sometimes goes nuts and stops updating things (has happened to me)
[11:55] <ToutPT|ppc|fr> /away go o restoU
[11:55] <bob2> tiglionabbit: mpt is canonical's usability dude, fwiw
[11:56] <tiglionabbit> ah, alright
[11:56] <Hajuu_> oh well there it is
[11:56] <tiglionabbit> I agree with him on the CD issues though.
[11:56] <Hajuu_> haha
[11:56] <Hajuu_> well anyway
[11:56] <gandalf__> i downloaded cedega, but don't have permission to extract it to my hard drive...how do i add it? please
[11:56] <Hajuu_> how does one configure and build a program?
[11:56] <Hajuu_> just for future knowledge
[11:56] <Seveas> Hajuu, ./configure && make && sudo checkinstall
[11:56] <tiglionabbit> Hajuu: get the program, read the README
[11:56] <Hajuu_> as ive been needing to do it for a few pieces of software
[11:56] <UbuntuPenguin> Please help! Is here any saviour for my, for help with iptables port redirecting? Please.
[11:57] <mischa> question: how can i disable the startup sound when i enter gnome. i already disabled System->Preferences->Sound-> Sound events-> Logon and Logoff, but that does not help.
[11:57] <bob2> UbuntuPenguin: have you asked your question yet?
[11:57] <thoreauputic> Hajuu: such as?
[11:57] <banana> can sombody help me with a problem i have with firefox, please, it's rather technical, but i could'nt get any help from the firefox irc room.
[11:57] <Seveas> UbuntuPenguin, local redirect?
[11:57] <tiglionabbit> I like that Ubuntu is brown though.
[11:57] <bob2> banana: just ask...
[11:57] <Hajuu_> thoreauputic:  some free 3d games like VDrag
[11:57] <UbuntuPenguin> Seveas: On local network, from one server torougth gate to Internet.
[11:57] <banana> thanks, bob2. i didn't want to change the subject from ubuntu to Fx, you see.
[11:57] <thoreauputic> tiglionabbit: I think that was intended as a joke:) It's easily changed anyway
[11:58] <banana> The question is: how do i apply a patch?
[11:58] <bob2> banana: why do you want to apply a patch?
[11:58] <Hajuu_> I dont mind the brown
[11:58] <tiglionabbit> oh, and I'm sort of scared about the project of making a splashscreen for the terminal loading.  Many linux users like getting the status menus.  And sometimes a process fails or takes too long, and needs to be skipped (control-C).  If they implement a splashscreen, please oh please add a SKIP button!
[11:58] <banana> The patch is on this webpage: http://bugzilla.mozdev.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10350. bob2, i want to apply a patch to fix up a problem i'm having with an extension (greasemonkey)
[11:59] <tiglionabbit> oh I said so many things wrong in that.  Status lines..  the [OK]  things
[11:59] <thoreauputic> tiglionabbit: I expect that will be "geek option button " ;-)
[11:59] <tiglionabbit> and s/terminal menu/startup process
[11:59] <tiglionabbit>   /
[11:59] <Seveas> tiglionabbit, that is the first thing that will be implemented in a splash screen :)
[11:59] <tiglionabbit> good
[11:59] <thoreauputic> tiglionabbit: "click here for the full geek boot-up experience " ;D
[12:00] <tiglionabbit> lol
[12:00] <BAfH> Fikrann: okay .. the problem with the forwrd is fixed ... now i'm waiting for starting oo
[12:00] <tiglionabbit> say, on the topic of that, how do I fix #21 ?
[12:01] <Hajuu_> Ahh gotta love Bali CD's.. A random assortment of live/bootleg/album songs.. then concluded with the theme from mission impossible..
[12:01] <Hajuu_> And it was a UT album
[12:01] <Hajuu_> err
[12:01] <Hajuu_> U2
[12:01] <tiglionabbit> Unreal 2rnament
[12:01] <Hajuu_> heh
[12:02] <mischa> question: how can i disable the startup sound when i enter gnome. i already disabled System->Preferences->Sound-> Sound events-> Logon and Logoff, but that does not help.
[12:02] <thoreauputic> tiglionabbit: ctrl+c to skip time server check
[12:02] <tiglionabbit> *repeats himself*  how do I fix #21: the network interfaces thing taking forever?
[12:02] <tiglionabbit> I just hit control-C every time
[12:02] <thoreauputic> tiglionabbit: yup
[12:02] <liable> tiglionabbit: comment out the atuo line in interfaces
[12:03] <thoreauputic> tiglionabbit: you could disable the start up scripts for it
[12:03] <liable> auto
[12:03] <tiglionabbit> liable: in interfaces?
[12:03] <liable> /etc/network/interfaces
[12:03] <liable> tiglionabbit: my bad, time thing?
[12:03] <bob2> banana: how much do you care? rebuilding it is a rather large undertaking.
[12:04] <tiglionabbit> *googles* some thread says  `sudo update-rc.d -f networking remove`
[12:04] <banana> you mean i just can't somehow edit a file and add the code into it, bob2?
[12:04] <liable> tiglionabbit: no dont do that
[12:04] <banana> or put that patch file in some directory, bob2?
[12:04] <TMzZLo> fresh install Ubuntu 5.04, when logging to X computer stops responding after 2seconds. tryed new version of kernel problem the same
[12:05] <TMzZLo> can anyone help me?
[12:05] <tiglionabbit> liable: well darn, guess I can't trust the first result in google.  Good thing I asked here!
[12:05] <Hajuu_> uhh.. I hate it when apt-get doesnt create aliases for stuff and doesnt tell me where it installs it
[12:05] <Hajuu_> how can I find out where its installed?
[12:05] <ubuntu> loxai jus wisi
[12:05] <TMzZLo> ;] 
[12:06] <thoreauputic> Hajuu: dpkg -L | grep bin
[12:06] <tiglionabbit> Hajuu_: I am interested in that too
[12:06] <thoreauputic> Hajuu: will find the executable - actually dpkg -L <package> | grep bin
[12:06] <Hajuu_> thought so
[12:07] <tiglionabbit> oh, that's very nice
[12:07] <tiglionabbit> good to know
[12:07] <Fator_Dee> TMzZLo: I had a similar problem a week ago and the reason was that 2 of my RAM sticks were borked
[12:07] <bob2> banana: run this: find ~/.mozilla/firefox -name "browser.xul"
[12:07] <TMzZLo> PC ATI Radeon X600, Samsung SATA SP1213c, P4 LGA 1mb/800, 256ddr ,MB Gigabyte GA-8I915P Duo
[12:07] <TMzZLo> i have onli one ram stick
[12:08] <banana> bob2, okay, i ran it.
[12:08] <tiglionabbit> so the line I want to comment out in interfaces is "auto lo" ?  Boy does this file have a lot of whitespace
[12:08] <Fator_Dee> TMzZLo: I'm not saying that the problem is in your RAM, but it *could* be
[12:08] <bob2> banana: what did it print?
[12:08] <TMzZLo> but in console my computer works fine
[12:08] <banana> it printed a directory and the file browser.xul.
[12:08] <tiglionabbit> or do I want to comment out "auto eth1" and "auto eth0" as well?
[12:08] <Fator_Dee> TMzZLo: so only your X doesn't work?
[12:08] <TMzZLo> i think problem might be in Video card
[12:08] <banana> should i open that file with a text editor or something, bob2?
[12:08] <TMzZLo> yes
[12:08] <bob2> banana: yes, I know
[12:08] <bob2> banana: no
[12:09] <bob2> banana: cd to the dir it is in
[12:09] <liable> tiglionabbit: no, what are you actually trying to stop?
[12:09] <Fator_Dee> TMzZLo: try to do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[12:09] <banana> bob2, done
[12:09] <TMzZLo> only X and then it starts everithing fine but when i enter login name and password computer stops responding after 2second
[12:09] <Fator_Dee> TMzZLo: and be sure that the refresh rates and resolutions are so that the monitor can handle them
[12:09] <tiglionabbit> when I am starting up ubuntu, it pauses for a while on "Configuring Network Interfaces..." as mentioned in problem #21 in that dude's list of gripes
[12:09] <TMzZLo> i have cheked them
[12:10] <TMzZLo> Fator_Dee resolution is fine
[12:10] <TMzZLo> and refresh
[12:10] <Fator_Dee> TMzZLo: have you looked in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[12:10] <tiglionabbit> I always make it skip this step.  I'm asking how to disable it
[12:10] <TMzZLo> one minute
[12:10] <phend> morning all
[12:11] <phend> can anybody recommend a good book on postgres, or a good online tutorial?
[12:11] <bob2> banana: run: patch -p1 < /path/to/where/you/downloaded/the/file.patch
[12:11] <tiglionabbit> btw, network interfaces are incredibly slow, even in the network-admin gui.  Changing profile takes forever, and the program waits a long time and then prints an error to console when I hit OK.  What's up with this?
[12:11] <bob2> banana: which is the patch from the bts
[12:11] <liable> tiglionabbit: is it looking for a dhcp and timing out?
[12:11] <bob2> tiglionabbit: fix /etc/network/interfaces
[12:11] <banana> what's bts,bob2?
[12:11] <tiglionabbit> bob2: fix how?
[12:11] <bob2> tiglionabbit: if an interface shouldn't try to come up on boot, don't configure it to
[12:11] <TMzZLo> Fator_Dee my computer stop responding at all i cant jump to another tty and i think its imposible to create error log to se what has happend
[12:11] <bob2> banana: bugzilla.
[12:12] <bob2> tiglionabbit: remove the "auto eth0" line or whatever it is
[12:12] <tiglionabbit> TMzZLo: I didn't configure anything to do this.  What do you mean?
[12:12] <banana> bob2, is it easiest if i put the file in the same directory?
[12:12] <tiglionabbit> okay
[12:12] <bob2> banana: doesn't matter
[12:12] <tiglionabbit> what do the iface lines do?  "iface eth0 inet dhcp"
[12:13] <tiglionabbit> and "auto lo"
[12:13] <Fator_Dee> TMzZLo: well, you should check the log anyway, but after that, I don't have advices on what to do, sorry :-\
[12:13] <liable> tiglionabbit: just comment out the auto line above it
[12:13] <bob2> tiglionabbit: man 5 interfaces
[12:13] <banana> bob2, the patch is in my home directory... what is the path?
[12:13] <liable> tiglionabbit: etho, or whatever your nic is
[12:13] <bob2> tiglionabbit: the first one says interface eth0 uses dhcp with ipv5
[12:13] <bob2> banana: ~/
[12:13] <TMzZLo> thanks anyway
[12:13] <tiglionabbit> ah
[12:13] <bob2> tiglionabbit: the second says "bring up the loopback interface on boot"
[12:14] <tiglionabbit> btw, is it submitted as a bug yet that "network-admin" takes forever at the task of changing profile?
[12:14] <TMzZLo> tiglionabbit where did you find this words?
[12:14] <tiglionabbit>  /etc/network/interfaces, tmzzlo
[12:15] <TMzZLo> [13:12]  <tiglionabbit> TMzZLo: I didn't configure anything to do this.  What do you mean?
[12:15] <tiglionabbit> to start at startup.
[12:15] <thoreauputic> TMzZLo: /etc/network/interfaces is auto configured , initially
[12:15] <tiglionabbit> I'm saying there is no option of whether or not to attempt to detect these things in startup
[12:15] <tiglionabbit> in any gui or during the install
[12:16] <banana> should i exit out of firefox, bob2, as i run that patch command?
[12:16] <bob2> banana: yes
[12:16] <bob2> tiglionabbit: there's no point asking about it
[12:16] <liable> tiglionabbit: just edit the file and reboot
[12:16] <tiglionabbit> yes I know
[12:16] <bob2> tiglionabbit: the real solution is to not try to bring it up if there's no cable plugged into it
[12:16] <bob2> which will happen for breezy
[12:16] <tiglionabbit> cool
[12:17] <liable> ifplugd :)
[12:17] <banana> bob2, i ran that command before exiting, and now i've extied. the command still seems to be in process.
[12:17] <tiglionabbit> liable: I tried installing the ifplugd package, and it did not solve this problem
[12:17] <banana> i suppose it takes some time for the patching to happen...
[12:17] <liable> tiglionabbit: comment the auto line out
[12:17] <bob2> banana: that probably means you didn't run what I typed
[12:17] <bob2> banana: check again
[12:17] <tiglionabbit> liable: I know
[12:17] <liable> tiglionabbit: then it should
[12:17] <Fator_Dee> quickie question, I want to tar a directory? how to do it?
[12:17] <Hajuu_> didn't like lincity much.. but I got simcity 2000 going through wine
[12:18] <Fator_Dee> or tar.gz
[12:18] <Hajuu_> no hassles at all :D
[12:18] <tiglionabbit> oh, you mean ifplugd will make it do auto, but not keep it from doing auto?
[12:18] <bob2> Fator_Dee: man tar: hint tar -cf foo.tar /directory/to/tar/
[12:18] <banana> bob2, you're right. I forgot the < character!
[12:18] <Fator_Dee> bob2: thanks
[12:18] <banana> i'll quit terminal and restart terminal.
[12:20] <banana> bob2, done. now, i'll try to start firefox with that extension and see if the problem is fixed.
[12:20] <tiglionabbit> I still don't understand what "lo" means.  It isn't mentioned in this man page
[12:20] <liable> tiglionabbit: dont worry about it
[12:20] <theturner> thats the loopback interface
[12:20] <banana> bob2, if this is the end of the patching, it wasn't as hard as you made it sound. Thanks to your great step-by-step instructions!  8-)
[12:20] <bob2> tiglionabbit: loopback interface
[12:21] <bob2> tiglionabbit: the interface 127.0.0.1 is on
[12:21] <tiglionabbit> ah
[12:21] <bob2> banana: I thought it was an actual patch to firefox
[12:21] <bob2> banana: it was just a patch to greasemonkey
[12:21] <thoreauputic> tiglionabbit: linux treats your local machine a s a special case network interface (in simple terms)
[12:21] <banana> yes.
[12:21] <ilba7r> bob2 which firewall frontend you recommend guard dog or firestarter
[12:21] <banana> you are really knowledgeable about these things. impressive.
[12:22] <bob2> ilba7r: I only use shorewall, sorry
[12:22] <theturner> firestarter is very recommendable
[12:22] <ilba7r> bob 2 are they all the same
[12:22] <banana> is there a way to find out the maximum upload and download speeds i have? Coz my ISP never did give me exact figures...
[12:22] <ilba7r> thanx theturner
[12:23] <theturner> you're welcome
[12:23] <theturner> where do you live?
[12:23] <thoreauputic> ilba7r: no, different features and usablity ( I find firestarter quite good)
[12:23] <theturner> you need a spped test server very near from you
[12:23] <theturner> s/spped/speed
[12:23] <ilba7r> thanx alot i always know i will find help here thanks guys
[12:23] <ilba7r> see ya
[12:23] <bob2> banana: theoretical values aren't very useful
[12:23] <banana> is there a quicker way to turn on (enable) the extensions, rather than clicking on each one and selecting "enable"?
[12:23] <bob2> banana: just time things you normally do
[12:24] <tiglionabbit> say, is there a place where ubuntu bugs are reported?
[12:24] <theturner> banana: there's a bandwidth test extension for firefox
[12:24] <tiglionabbit> or listed?
[12:24] <banana> bob2, thanks for your help in patching.
[12:24] <bob2> tiglionabbit: bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[12:24] <djp> bluetooth > ubuntu > mobile phone? How? ;)
[12:24] <bob2> tiglionabbit: and launchpad.ubuntu.com
[12:24] <banana> theturner, true, but did you see the rating it has on mozilla's site?
[12:24] <padlefot_> does anybody know a good free namserver service? with email forwarding supported?
[12:24] <theturner> banana: no.
[12:25] <tiglionabbit> hehe, I like bug #1
[12:25] <banana> it has a very low rating, theturner
[12:25] <gandalf_storm> hey again
[12:25] <theturner> padlefot: dyndns.org ?
[12:26] <tiglionabbit> say, about nameservers, is it possible to get a url and have it direct to somewhere down a directory tree, rather than the root of a domain?
[12:26] <theturner> banana: http://performance.chello.at:81/cgi-bin/upspeed.pl
[12:26] <bob2> tiglionabbit: no
[12:26] <tiglionabbit> er, a url without directories in it
[12:26] <bob2> tiglionabbit: not using dns
[12:26] <tiglionabbit> aw
[12:26] <bob2> tiglionabbit: dns just converts names to ip addresses
[12:26] <theturner> banana: the values will be lower than you actual speed if you're not in europe
[12:26] <tiglionabbit> it would be fun to be able to add directories to that
[12:26] <banana> what's the keyboard equivalent of secondary-mouse-button clicking?
[12:26] <bob2> tiglionabbit: you can play web server tricks to redirect blah.com to foo.com/blah/, though.
[12:27] <bob2> tiglionabbit: bear in mind DNS was created 10 years before http.
[12:27] <tiglionabbit> yes, but in that case I would have to own blah.com.  What if I only have a user account?
[12:27] <banana> theturner, right. so i should find a website checker in my area, right?
[12:27] <bob2> tiglionabbit: blah.com is a domain name, not a machine
[12:28] <tiglionabbit> but I mean I'd need to control the index of it
[12:28] <theturner> banana: better do that, yeah.
[12:28] <bob2> tiglionabbit: you'd have to control the web server configuration of blah.com, yes
[12:28] <tiglionabbit> I suppose I could get my dns to refer to an index i do own, and have that page redirect for me
[12:28] <theturner> djp: install gnome-phone-manager and gnome-bluetooth.
[12:28] <gandalf_storm> still on same question, have cedega rpm, but no run file, and no permission to extract it to my filesys
[12:29] <Jmax1632> <_<
[12:29] <bob2> gandalf_storm: ask transgaming for the .deb file instead
[12:29] <Jmax1632> >_>
[12:29] <bob2> Jmax1632: ?
[12:29] <Jmax1632> anyone here can help a newbie?
[12:29] <YoshiBishi> =o
[12:30] <theturner> gandalf_storm: or use alien
[12:30] <djp> theturner: the phone in question is an SE K700i. will that work with the utils you specified?
[12:30] <gandalf_storm> alien?
[12:30] <bob2> Jmax1632: just ask your question...
[12:30] <Jmax1632> well
[12:30] <bob2> gandalf_storm: when you pay transgaming, don't they give you an option of rpm or deb?
[12:30] <tiglionabbit> alien can convert rpms to debs
[12:30] <banana> Jmax1632, i like your roving eyes textual-art!
[12:30] <Jmax1632> a `sudo apt-get install dhcpcd` returns a "could not open lock file/var/lib/dpkg/lock" error
[12:30] <Jmax1632> permission denied, basically
[12:30] <theturner> gandalf_storm: man alien
[12:31] <hyphenated> djp: I made mine work with KDE using kbluetoothd, but that won't help you much, since it's 1) KDE and 2) building a bunch of stuff from CVS
[12:31] <gandalf_storm> thanks
[12:31] <Seveas> Jmax1632, close synaptic and all other instances of package managers
[12:31] <YoshiBishi> oh wait lol jmax
[12:31] <tiglionabbit> Jmax1632: do you have another interface for apt open?
[12:31] <YoshiBishi> i forgot the sudo =P
[12:31] <theturner> gandalf_storm: alien can install non-debian package formats on debian systems
[12:31] <YoshiBishi> hahaha
[12:31] <Jmax1632> you ran su?
[12:31] <YoshiBishi> but "Couldn't find package"
[12:31] <Jmax1632> ok
[12:31] <gandalf_storm> theturner: thanks
[12:31] <Jmax1632> what package contains dhcpcd?
[12:31] <djp> hyphenated: do you have the K700i?
[12:32] <theturner> djp: most probably. bluetooth is bluetooth.
[12:32] <djp> theturner: ok, thanks.
[12:32] <thoreauputic> Jmax1632: you mean dhcpd ?
[12:32] <Jmax1632> yes
[12:32] <Jmax1632> oops
[12:32] <theturner> djp: my t68i is working just fine
[12:32] <Jmax1632> YoshiBishi: `sudo apt-get install dhcpd`
[12:32] <YoshiBishi> no package
[12:33] <theturner> djp: you're welcome.
[12:33] <djp> theturner: :). right then, i will have to get one of those bluetooth dongle thingys!
[12:33] <thoreauputic> Jmax1632: apt-cache search dhcpd
[12:33] <Jmax1632> YoshiBishi: got that?
[12:33] <YoshiBishi> yea
[12:33] <YoshiBishi> now what
[12:33] <Jmax1632> what results?
[12:33] <YoshiBishi> nothing happened
[12:33] <banana> can someone help me set up gmailfs, please?
[12:33] <thoreauputic> Jmax1632: dhcp3-server - DHCP server for automatic IP address assignment
[12:34] <Jmax1632> thoreauputic: we want to connect TO a dhcp server
[12:34] <theturner> djp: yeah, luckily they cost practically nothing ;)
[12:34] <thoreauputic> Jmax1632: the you need dhclient I'd say
[12:34] <Jmax1632> ie. ISP runs dhcpd, and we want to connect
[12:34] <tiglionabbit> say, this is weird.  Some fonts do not show at all in firefox
[12:34] <Jmax1632> thoreauputic: which pkg?
[12:34] <Fator_Dee> banana: aren't they against googlemails rules?
[12:35] <Fator_Dee> banana: I heard that from someone in hear
[12:35] <Jmax1632> yes they are
[12:35] <Fator_Dee> here even...
[12:35] <tiglionabbit> like for instance, Additional Comments on this page is a blank box https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3328
[12:35] <banana> Fator_Dee, viewing your own email via gmail's website is against gmail's rules, did you know that?
[12:35] <tiglionabbit> how do I fix this weirdness?
[12:35] <thoreauputic> Jmax1632: um - it should be installed by default
[12:35] <Fator_Dee> banana: hnh?
[12:35] <Jmax1632> thoreauputic: what command?
[12:35] <thoreauputic> dhclient
[12:36] <Jmax1632> k
[12:36] <tiglionabbit> uh, what's banana and factor_dee talking about?
[12:36] <tiglionabbit> anyway, fontness.  What up with this?
[12:36] <Fator_Dee> banana wanted to setup a gmailfs, and I just thought they were against gmails policy
[12:37] <tiglionabbit> gmailfs?
[12:37] <Fator_Dee> tiglionabbit: basically you are using your 1gig gmail account as a remote storage
[12:37] <tiglionabbit> hehe
[12:37] <handeb> hey how do i sart smb on the live cd?
[12:37] <tiglionabbit> it's actually nearly 3 gigs now
[12:37] <handeb> i just want to see my shars
[12:37] <Fator_Dee> tiglionabbit: well, basically :-p
[12:38] <tiglionabbit> and I believe they do allow you to store pictures there via picassa, though that's a windows application
[12:38] <tiglionabbit> you can email pictures to yourself, btw
[12:38] <tiglionabbit> or files
[12:38] <banana> Fator_Dee, "You ... agree that you will not use manual process to monitor any content from the Service." This is from http://gmail.google.com/gmail/help/terms_of_use.html.
[12:39] <imsdle> how do i fix this? The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[12:39] <imsdle>   skype: Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3) but 3:3.2.3-4ubuntu1 is to be installed
[12:39] <tiglionabbit> lol
[12:39] <imsdle> ??????????????
[12:39] <Fator_Dee> banana: I sayd, that I just heard from someone that they were agains their policy and I wanted to inform you of that
[12:39] <banana> tiglionabbit, well, it's currently at 2246MB.
[12:39] <Fator_Dee> banana: I don't personally care if you use it, but I wanted you to know about it
[12:39] <handeb> lol never mind probley is working just havn't got a windows machine turned on
[12:40] <banana> ok.
[12:40] <tiglionabbit> *repeats himself*  Firefox!  Font invisible!  WTFS
[12:40] <raDeon> WHO CALLED ME
[12:40] <banana> tiglionabbit, doesn't picassa reduce the filesizes of images? or is it just flickr?
[12:40] <thoreauputic> tiglionabbit: try setting it to use your font choice in edit>> prefs or wherever it is
[12:40] <imsdle> anyone?
[12:41] <thoreauputic> I had a similar issue with some sites
[12:41] <banana> imsdle, then get those dependcies.
[12:42] <Jmax1632> ok
[12:42] <Q-FUNK> one question about the live CD:  since which Ubuntu release does the CD include win32 ports of e.g. OOo and Firefox, from the OpenCD project?
[12:42] <theturner> Q-FUNK: since Warty, the first release
[12:42] <thoreauputic> Q-FUNK: only on the Hoary version, AFAIK
[12:42] <Jmax1632> can someone help YoshiBishi set up his roadrunner internet service on Hoary?
[12:42] <thoreauputic> theturner: really?
[12:43] <theturner> thoreauputic: i am quite sure
[12:43] <thoreauputic> OK
[12:43] <handeb> how to i install .deb?
[12:43] <handeb> im used to rpms
[12:43] <thoreauputic> sudo dpkg -i <nameofdeb>
[12:43] <Fator_Dee> handeb: sudo dpkg -i debfile.deb
[12:44] <Q-FUNK> handeb: but you most probably would rather use APT or Synaptic to fetch the deb and handle the dependencies for you.
[12:44] <thoreauputic> handeb: in general you should use synaptic/apt instead though
[12:44] <imsdle> my evolution keeps freezing.. does anyone know how to update or reinstall it...?
[12:44] <SirGir> I want to stop Gdm from running at boot, will '/etc/init.d/gdm stop' be enoght?
[12:45] <SirGir> enough*
[12:45] <Juhaz> no
[12:45] <handeb> thanks thoreauputic :D
[12:45] <SirGir> or do I have to edit inittab?
[12:45] <SirGir> or what?
[12:45] <thoreauputic> SirGir: no, that won't persist across reboots
[12:45] <handeb> Q-FUNK, yeah but opera is not on apt
[12:45] <IIIEars> same trouble here with evolution - installed thunderbird. - no more troubles. - easier to set up also.
[12:46] <chrissturm> anyone know how to fix the key bindings in breezy?
[12:46] <Burgundavia> chrissturm, a fix is coming
[12:46] <Burgundavia> chrissturm, should be the next few days
[12:46] <thoreauputic> SirGir: edit  /etc/X11/default-display-manager and put "false"
[12:47] <chrissturm> burgundavia: anything i can do to fix it locally?
[12:47] <IIIEars> www.mozilla.org/projects/thunderbird/
[12:47] <Burgundavia> chrissturm, no idea
[12:47] <chrissturm> thx
[12:47] <OConnor> c ke g un probleme
[12:47] <SirGir> thoreauputic, 'false' insted of '/usr/bin/gdm' ?
[12:47] <OConnor> avec c dlire la
[12:47] <thoreauputic> yes
[12:48] <SirGir> thenostradamus, Thanks!
[12:48] <thoreauputic> SirGir: ^^
[12:48] <thoreauputic> SirGir: heh - tab completion error :)
[12:48] <OConnor> il me fau d plugins additionnels
[12:49] <amichai> hey can someone tell  me where i can edit my interface
[12:49] <thoreauputic> OConnor: /join #ubuntu-fr
[12:49] <Seveas> amichai, sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[12:49] <OConnor> merci
[12:49] <amichai> Seveas, thanx man. can u tell me where  i can get good xtra repos, cos the ones on ubuntuguide broke my ubuntu
[12:50] <Seveas> amichai, why do you want extras? the official ubuntu ones provide quite a lot...
[12:50] <giggsey> how do I install a .deb
[12:50] <giggsey> whats the command
[12:50] <Fator_Dee> giggsey: sudo dpkg -i debfile.deb
[12:50] <amichai> Seveas, ok. so i'll stay away fromt hem
[12:50] <lonewolff> sudo dpkg -i yourpackage.deb
[12:51] <IIIEars> gigg - dpkg -i yourdeb
[12:51] <amichai> Seveas, one more thing: does this make sense to u: # The primary network interface
[12:51] <amichai> auto eth\iface etho inet static\ address 0.0.0.0
[12:51] <Seveas> no
[12:51] <Seveas> address 0.0.0.0 does not make sense :)
[12:51] <Fator_Dee> amichai: you should only use ubuntu's own repos, main, restricted, universe, multiverse
[12:52] <amichai> Seveas, only the 0.0.0.0 doesnt make sense? what about eth\iface etho inet static ?
[12:52] <giggsey> thanks Fator_Dee, you guys are my heros today, and you must be fed up of me ;)
[12:52] <amichai> Fator_Dee, thanx will do.
[12:52] <amichai> Seveas, the 0.0.0.0 works. not sure whether inet is correct
[12:53] <Seveas> that is correct
[12:53] <amichai> ok cool :0
[12:53] <Seveas> but 0.0.0.0 ..? why don't you put your real address there
[12:53] <amichai> :0)
[12:53] <althepcman> having problems with wine can anyone help?
[12:53] <giggsey> now starts the long list of install dependaces
[12:53] <giggsey> ^_^
[12:53] <amichai> Seveas, i dont know. it works great without it. i dont get d/c anymore
[12:54] <IIIEars> giggsey - "Pay it Forward" - :)
[12:54] <thoreauputic> althepcman: alcoholics anonymous ?
[12:54] <amichai> Seveas, i dont have a static ip
[12:54] <Seveas> amichai, ah
[12:54] <Seveas> then the thing does not make sense :)
[12:54] <Seveas> remove the addr line
[12:54] <Seveas> the iface line should be: iface eth0 inet dhcp
[12:55] <safezone> hi room
[12:55] <amichai> Seveas, but then i get disconnected every 30 min when it renews the ip
[12:55] <giggsey> IIIEars, o-O?
[12:55] <althepcman> thoreauputic: thanks but no thanks
[12:55] <handeb> apt-get -f install should fill mising depends ay?
[12:55] <giggsey> ohh
[12:55] <giggsey> ohh
[12:55] <safezone> an one good with linux
[12:55] <IIIEars> return the favor to others that ask.
[12:55] <giggsey> ill do it myself
[12:55] <thoreauputic> althepcman: I think you need to be more specific ;)
[12:56] <Seveas> amichai, that's weird...
[12:56] <amichai> Seveas, i know. but this worked great.
[12:56] <Seveas> amichai, try editing /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf (oslt) and disable that timeout
[12:56] <althepcman> thoreauputic: ok I am tring to install msi and I get Wine failed with return code 250
[12:56] <thoreauputic> althepcman: have you asked in #winehq?
[12:56] <safezone> i need hellp in ubuntu
[12:57] <thoreauputic> althepcman: they would be more likely to know
[12:57] <Burgundavia> safezone, what is your issue?
[12:57] <amichai> Seveas, i dont have such a file
[12:57] <samuelc> Question, I've had hoary 5.04 on my other computer before working fine. I recently got a new hdd, and have tried to re-install it, I have entered different install parameters (via chipset), but still after about 5 seconds it is coming up with "Kernel Panic - not syncing: Attempting to kill init!"
[12:57] <safezone> i newly installed this linux
[12:58] <handeb> apt-get -f install should fill mising depends ay?
[12:58] <safezone> but i don't know the password as root
[12:58] <IIIEars> safezone - there is no need for a root password sudo does it all
[12:58] <Seveas> amichai, /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[12:58] <safezone> how is that
[12:58] <samuelc> hrm ^^^ the question to my previous post would be, has anybody encounted or heard of this problem? and is it fixable?
[12:59] <althepcman> thoreauputic: I have but it seems no one knows I was just asking here if some here had seen it
[12:59] <Seveas> samuelc, i the install cd panicing or the installed system?
[12:59] <yahalom> Seveas, i dont see any timeout uncommented
[01:00] <IIIEars> safezone - if someone knows a account name "root" in this example it is easier foor them to break in.   sudo <command> is more secure
[01:00] <tiglionabbit> safezone: use your user password
[01:00] <samuelc> Seveas : I assume it's the cd, because it is a fresh hdd. I've re-burned the iso, and re-downloaded the iso from a different site(just to be sure), same problem.
[01:00] <safezone> i did but it didn't work
[01:01] <IIIEars> ubuntuguide.org http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/
[01:01] <|Ivanch0|> someone knows its is posible configure 3d aceleration in vmware?
[01:01] <Fator_Dee> samuelc: you can use the md5sum to check if you dl'ed and burned it properly
[01:01] <Seveas> samuelc: i meant: did you get panic booting the install cd or is the install cd working fine but after that it panics?
[01:01] <safezone> i need to switch to root
[01:01] <Fator_Dee> safezone: what do you need to use root for?
[01:01] <Seveas> safezone, you can use sudo
[01:01] <Seveas> safezone: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[01:01] <samuelc> Seveas : sorry, It boots the install cd, and then panics
[01:02] <IIIEars> safezone - sudo <application_name> works also.
[01:02] <Seveas> samuelc, afaik the install cd can take several boot options, have you tried them?
[01:03] <samuelc> Seveas : yeah I have tried all that are relevant, even some that aren't, still same error, I have no idea why it would do this considering 2 weeks ago it was working fine, same hardware except different hdd
[01:03] <IIIEars> Seveas - I need a script to save links in. Do you know of one?
[01:04] <safezone> i need to change resolution
[01:04] <IIIEars> safezone - Is your display offering more than 640x480?
[01:04] <safezone> no
[01:06] <safezone> only 640*480 and 60refrsh rate
[01:07] <Fator_Dee> safezone: what are the resolutions and refresh rate your monitor is capable of?
[01:07] <safezone> over xp it can give 1024 and more
[01:07] <IIIEars> safezone - Ouch! - Easy to fix though. - kill the xserver (desktop gui) CTRL+ALT+ <backspace> then login @  give your user password , then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - let me give you the webpage if you have trouble.
[01:07] <Seveas> samuelc, are you sure it boots from the cd and not an installd linux system on a harddisk?
[01:07] <Fator_Dee> safezone: when you know them, you can reconfigure xserver-xorg and you can specify the resolutions to be used
[01:08] <Seveas> if so -> file a bugreport please :)
[01:08] <Fator_Dee> IIIEars: you don't necessarily have to kill teh xserver to reconfig it
[01:08] <Fator_Dee> IIIEars: you can reconfig in x and then restart
[01:08] <safezone> ok
[01:08] <IIIEars> Seveas - do you have the link for ubuntu dpkg recongiure screen res.?
[01:08] <samuelc> Seveas - hrmm I was hoping i wouldn't have to get to that stage
[01:09] <safezone> no give it to me
[01:09] <IIIEars> uFator_Dee - do you have the link?
[01:09] <Fator_Dee> IIIEars: nope, never had the need for one :-|
[01:09] <Fator_Dee> I could try to find it though, but it's not hard
[01:10] <IIIEars> just a sec got too many - let me reread 'em.
[01:12] <Fator_Dee> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto that might be it
[01:13] <podge> Anyone get spam from KusursuZ??
[01:13] <flankk> okay, i get halfway through compiling wine, and then the computer shuts down. i really don't respect that.
[01:13] <IIIEars> safezone - whew too many links i need a maid. - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:13] <safezone> ok thanks a lot
[01:14] <rixth> Can one have more than 4 workspaceS?
[01:14] <safezone> ok i'll try it
[01:14] <giggsey> is there an easy way to install Anjuta, like other programs ive installed this morning
[01:14] <IIIEars> safezone - Welcome!
[01:14] <flankk> i've compiled wine on several different distributions, same version of wine, no issues.  no excuse for that...
[01:14] <podge> rixth: You should be able to right click on the workspaces. Then go to preferences.. then change how many your want!
[01:15] <Fator_Dee> rixth: I have 6 :-|
[01:15] <Fator_Dee> rixth: so I'd guess so
[01:15] <synd> i hate allergies :|
[01:15] <rixth> Thanks
[01:16] <IIIEars> Fator_Dee - I need a python script to type out links for FAQs - do you know one?
[01:16] <podge> Fator_Dee: 6.. Wow..
[01:16] <podge> Fator_Dee: What you doing on all those workspaces? :)
[01:16] <flankk> anyone know what would cause this?
[01:16] <thoreauputic> giggsey: anjuta is in the universe repo
[01:17] <podge> flankk: Does it happen when you compile other big proagrams?
[01:17] <Seveas> flankk, why compiling wine, the version in the ubuntu repos is recent....
[01:17] <thoreauputic> giggsey: so if that is enabled, sudo apt-get install anjuta
[01:17] <Fator_Dee> podge: I like to keep different programs on different workspaces :-)
[01:17] <podge> Seveas: I agree.
[01:17] <Fator_Dee> podge: I don't feel crowded that way, but sometimes even 6 is not enough :-p
[01:17] <flankk> Seveas, is it though?
[01:17] <podge> Fator_Dee: You would be in trouble running Windows then eh? :)
[01:17] <Fator_Dee> podge: I'd be mentally ill :-|
[01:18] <Seveas> Version: 0.0.20050310-1.1
[01:18] <flankk> Seveas, that is old!
[01:18] <Fator_Dee> podge: there's absolutely no way I could use any OS without workspaces now :-)
[01:19] <Seveas> flankk, it's as recent as it gets in a stable distro...
[01:19] <giggsey> thanks thoreauputic
[01:19] <Seveas> flankk, if you want bleeding-edge, go gentoo...
[01:19] <flankk> Seveas, so you're saying stable is when your computer shuts down mid-compile.. right.
[01:19] <thoreauputic> giggsey: for future reference: to find a package run ` apt-cache search <keyword> `
[01:19] <podge> Fator_Dee: Agreed.
[01:20] <podge> Some good looking women on Miss Universe at the moment..
[01:20] <flankk> Seveas, lose the attitude please. i have used many distributions, including gentoo, never had an involuntary shutdown.
[01:20] <Fator_Dee> O.o
[01:20] <giggsey> kk
[01:20] <podge> flankk: Does it happen when you compile other big programs?
[01:20] <felis> does anyone know have the ogre/cegui/cg packages by Matt Galvin are coming along?
[01:21] <Seveas> flankk, agreed, invluntary shutdown aren't quite the stable behaviour, does it happen at the same point every time..?
[01:21] <flankk> Seveas, i'd have to check the logs
[01:21] <preglow> are anyone aware of any bugs in ubuntu hoary gdb for x86-64?
[01:22] <Seveas> preglow, search the bugzilla :)
[01:22] <preglow> did, couldn't find anything
[01:23] <preglow> but i get what looks like differing pointer sizes here
[01:23] <preglow> which is quite insane
[01:24] <flankk> Seveas, gah, logs say ziltch.  i'll pipe the output to a file this time.
[01:24] <flankk> Seveas, see you after the power cycle :|
[01:26] <tiglionabbit> on bugzilla, who should I assign a bug to?
[01:28] <Fikrann> tiglionabbit, if you are just reporting bug, noone.
[01:28] <tiglionabbit> it seems to want me to put someone in...  *tries leaving it blank*
[01:28] <podge> thoreauputic: Much been going on today?
[01:29] <thoreauputic> podge: um...
[01:29] <amichai> how do i get he_IL.UFT-8?
[01:29] <tiglionabbit> oh cool, when I select the component it types someone in there if it's blank
[01:30] <podge> thoreauputic: A bit slow in here tonight.. everyone must be figuring stuff out for themselves..
[01:30] <amichai> anybody?
[01:30] <thoreauputic> podge: I wish ;)
[01:30] <giggsey> does anyone know of a good graphical php editor for ubuntu?
[01:30] <podge> thoreauputic: Do you do any dev work on Linux etc?
[01:31] <tiglionabbit> say, what do you think of my bug?  https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11357
[01:31] <ogi_> giggsey, gedit :P
[01:31] <thoreauputic> podge: no, I'm just an ordinary dude ;-)
[01:31] <thoreauputic> podge: My coding is limited to a few bash scripts
[01:34] <giggsey> im looking at GPHPEdit
[01:35] <Fikrann> tiglionabbit, it's slow because it runs dhcpclient3 for all interfaces, useful or not this behaviour might be.
[01:35] <safezone> hi i'm back
[01:36] <tiglionabbit> what's with the splurt of error messages it prints when starting?
[01:36] <safezone> it didn't work
[01:36] <tiglionabbit> and the huge lag when quitting after changing location?
[01:36] <IIIEars> thoreauputic - why are you kidding yourself? - "Ordinary dude.." nah you and a dozen other people make the Ubuntu channel great.
[01:36] <safezone> can u give me the link again
[01:36] <Fikrann> tiglionabbit, and personally, I found laptop-net much better tool
[01:36] <tiglionabbit> oo
[01:36] <martinhj> Fikrann: I have disabled those interfaces I don't use in the different locations I got.. don't think network-admin tries to use dhclient on those
[01:37] <thoreauputic> IIIEars: thanks - well everyone contributes I guess
[01:37] <IIIEars> thoreauputic - you field more questions than any most people.
[01:37] <tiglionabbit> say, is backports.ubuntuforums.org down at the moment?
[01:38] <Fikrann> martinhj, I saw it trying to run dhcpclient on interfaces not existing in the kernel at that moment... but maybe it's simply my setup too unusual for this tool.
[01:39] <martinhj> Fikrann: heh, strange:-)
[01:39] <Fikrann> martinhj, that's why I stopped using it. And it was constantly dropping my default gw information.
[01:40] <tiglionabbit> when I install laptop-net, will it automatically be useful, or do I need to do something?
[01:40] <martinhj> Fikrann: sure that was network-admin itself? not dhclient or something?
[01:40] <mischa> question: how can i disable the startup sound when i enter gnome. i already disabled System->Preferences->Sound-> Sound events-> Logon and Logoff, but that does not help.
[01:40] <tiglionabbit> oo, it popped up a gui with a single checkbox in it
[01:40] <Fikrann> tiglionabbit, you need to edit two files.
[01:41] <tiglionabbit> mischa: tell it not to spawn a sound daemon, on that sound page
[01:41] <tiglionabbit> first tab I believe
[01:41] <Seveas> tiglionabbit, that will not solve it...
[01:42] <tiglionabbit> oh, I see, that's what you're referring to.  um, I don't know then
[01:42] <Seveas> mischa, the drum roll you hear on startup is not part of your user-configuration, but a system-wide setting
[01:42] <IIIEars> thoreauputic - Do you know someone that can tweak an Xchat ispell script to  FAQ URLS to menomics?
[01:42] <tiglionabbit> the drum thing is fun though, don't kill it!  <- *is being silly and unhelpful*
[01:42] <safezone> the link for fix resolution plz
[01:43] <Seveas> mischa, go to system->administration->login screen setup
[01:43] <thoreauputic> IIIEars: I don't even understand the question :)
[01:43] <Seveas> mischa , and look at the accessibility tab
[01:44] <IIIEars> thorthoreauputic - (lol - a little beyond me too.) - I have a nice script that intercepts typos. It should be able to add FAQ URLS by typing the first few characters.
[01:44] <safezone> IIIEars the link for fix resolution plz
[01:44] <Seveas> IIIEars, i have a faq script for xchat...
[01:45] <IIIEars> Display http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:45] <weedar> My USB mic (AK5370) is visible in Kmix, but it doesn't work. Any suggestions?
[01:45] <safezone> ok thanks
[01:46] <IIIEars> thoreuputic - example typing "short:Display" might type the url to adjust resolution.
[01:46] <weedar> Or maybe somebody knows where I should search for help? :)
[01:47] <Seveas> IIIEars, i just type /faq $NICK $id and it displays $NICK: $ANSWER :)
[01:47] <flankk> well, it did it again.
[01:47] <podge> IIIEars: That should be able to be setup with the Auto Replace feature?
[01:48] <IIIEars> Hm - sounds good :) - didn't know you could do that. - do you have the listing?
[01:48] <tiglionabbit> hey, how do I extract something that is .gz, not .tar.gz?
[01:48] <flankk> piped the output to a log, the comp restarted involuntarily.. and the log says nothing about a failure.
[01:48] <thoreauputic> tiglionabbit: gunzip
[01:49] <mischa> Seveas:tanx very much, that should do it :)
[01:49] <nrl> Cindyy: stop spamming
[01:49] <thoreauputic> tiglionabbit: ie.  gunzip foo.gz
[01:49] <mischa> tiglionabbit: Seveas has the solution :)
[01:49] <IIIEars> podge - google xchat ispell - http://woody.linif.org/pub/xchat/xspell.pl
[01:49] <podge> flankk: It will depend it the output buffer was flushed before the crash..
[01:50] <tiglionabbit> oh.  Coulda sworn I'd said which gunzip a second ago and got nothing.  Worked
[01:50] <podge> flankk: Can you tell what files it was building before the crash?
[01:50] <tiglionabbit> lol, oh, I'd said which ungzip
[01:50] <dna`> i cant get sound to work, and enablding dma doesnt work, and totem doesnt run
[01:51] <flankk> podge, gcc -c -I. -I. -I../../include -I../../include  -D__WINESRC__  -DCOM_NO_WINDOWS_H -D_REENTRANT -fPIC -Wall -pipe -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -fno-strict-aliasing -gstabs+ -Wpointer-arith  -g -O2 -o htmldoc.o htmldoc.c
[01:51] <flankk> podge, that's last i got, no errors previous.
[01:51] <Seveas> flankk, and did it finish building htmldoc.o?
[01:51] <Seveas> flankk, what happens if you manually compile that file?
[01:51] <flankk> Seveas, let me check
[01:51] <chrissturm> when i have a default ubuntu install, is there a smtp server running on localhost?
[01:52] <Seveas> dna`, dma has nothing to do with sound..
[01:52] <Seveas> chrissturm, yes, postfix
[01:52] <dna`> Seveas, i know, i just listed all the problems in one line
[01:52] <Fikrann> flankk, have you run memtest86 on your machine?
[01:52] <Seveas> dna`, ah ok :)
[01:52] <chrissturm> seveas: does it relay?
[01:52] -Cindyy:#ubuntu- I am Picture -->  wWw.aysu.gen.ms /Cindy.JPG
[01:52] -Cindyy:#ubuntu- I am Picture -->  wWw.aysu.gen.ms /Cindy.JPG
[01:52] -Cindyy:#ubuntu- I am Picture -->  wWw.aysu.gen.ms /Cindy.JPG
[01:52] <flankk> Fikrann, yes.
[01:53] <benjamin1> anyone here using ubuntu colony 1 cd (breezy)?
[01:53] <Seveas> dna`, describe `sound not working', load your motherboards drivers, decribr 'not running'
[01:53] <dna`> whats this? dalnet?
[01:53] <flankk> Fikrann, like i said, i have run many distros, never with this problem.
[01:53] <Fikrann> dna`, if you'd be more specific about your hardware someone might be able to help you.
[01:53] <Seveas> chrissturm, no, it listens only on localhost
[01:53] <Seveas> for cron etc.
[01:54] <dna`> its audigy2zs, its detected, but whenever i play something whatever it is(dvd,mp3,ogg) no sound comes out at all
[01:54] <podge> flankk: Is htmldoc.o there or not?
[01:54] <Fikrann> Can someone please ban this spambot? Cindyy (~PrivatE@85.96.23.174)
[01:54] <flankk> podge, i am looking. pop a riddalin..
[01:54] <chrissturm> seveas: but can i use the smtp on localhost to send mails to any domain? i have a webapp that needs to send emails, and it wants to use a smtp server at localhost
[01:54] <Seveas> dna`, audigy support is very flaky, there is a complicated solution that you can find on the forums
[01:54] <podge> find . -name htmldoc.o
[01:54] <podge> :)
[01:54] <dna`> i installed xmms, beep, mplayer, xine, gstreamer mad...
[01:54] <Seveas> chrissturm, you will need to configure it
[01:54] <IIIEars> Seveas -  ""   /faq help  "" Doesn't produce a list - D-oh! ;)
[01:55] <Seveas> IIIEars, /faq is part of i script i created ;)
[01:55] <chrissturm> seveas: thx, where can i get started?
[01:55] <Fikrann> dna`, starting from basics, are you sure that you have unmuted all channels?
[01:55] <dna`> Seveas, how come? it always worked on GNU/Linux ;/
[01:55] <Seveas> chrissturm, www.ubuntuforums.org
[01:55] <Gollie> guys - i'm trying to guide a technophobe thru a misconfigured network install on ubuntu (i'm not in front of it myself) he's using a DHCP on road runner - is there a network setup wizard? and if so, where is it off the menu.
[01:55] <Seveas> dna`, hmm, that's what i understood...
[01:55] <IIIEars> Seveas - I'll FAX you a flat soda/beer if you would be generous enough too share it. :)
[01:55] <Seveas> hehe
[01:55] <dna`> Fikrann, yes, but i think its because i have a camera, its detecting it as a sound card too...
[01:56] <flankk> podge, not there
[01:56] <Seveas> IIIEars, i'll share it later, will have to clean up the code a bit ;)
[01:56] <podge> flankk: Okay.. cut and paste that last gcc line.. and run it manually..
[01:56] <Fikrann> flankk, I just had to throw out a laptop memory module, exactly one year and one month after it was bought, because it started corrupting data.
[01:56] <podge> flankk: If your box dies.. then that is the problem..
[01:56] <flankk> Fikrann, lol
[01:57] <flankk> podge, ok
[01:57] <dcraven> Gollie: Not really a "wizard", but there is a GUI at System/Administration/Networking.
[01:57] <IIIEars> Seveas - Take pity on me. (considers begging.)
[01:57] <Fikrann> dna`, then check if your audio player is outputting to right device.
[01:57] <Gollie> found that one - doesn't seem to be helping him - i'll try the shell commands again
[01:58] <IIIEars> only my 5th week using linux believe me i wouldn't kow good code from Fortran.
[01:58] <Fator_Dee> Fikrann: hope there was still warranty on the stick
[01:59] <Fator_Dee> Fikrann: usually they should have more than a year
[01:59] <dna`> Fikrann, i selected the soundcard in xmms for example, and still now sound :(
[01:59] <Fikrann> Fator_Dee, It had one year guarantee
[01:59] <IIIEars> lol - I'll try to adapt the .pl script - this should be fun.
[02:00] <Fator_Dee> Fikrann: strange stick :-o
[02:00] <dcraven> Week 5 already eh IIIEars? Nice to see you still hangin' around :)
[02:00] <Fator_Dee> Fikrann: I wouldn't even buy a memory stick with that much warranty :-p
[02:00] <podge> IIIEars: You are new to Linux.. Don't know how to code.. and are looking at Perl? :) I wish you luck!!
[02:00] <Fikrann> dna`, try another Audigy driver? My Audigy is detected as Classic, doesn't work with that driver, only with Audigy LS.
[02:00] <IIIEars> dcraven - Yep Ubuntu is the best. :)
[02:01] <Fikrann> Fator_Dee, it was purchased as a part of a laptop.
[02:01] <dna`> Fikrann, any idea how i can change the driver?
[02:01] <weedar> Am I correct in assuming that ubuntu uses both oss and alsa at the same time?
[02:01] <Fikrann> rmmod one and insmod another?
[02:01] <IIIEars>  5 weeks = 150 hours on the 'net r about 2 XP reinstalls. - lol
[02:01] <yahalom> how come mplayer is not in the ubuntu repos?
[02:01] <dna`> ah okay
[02:01] <Seveas> yahalom, it is
[02:01] <Seveas> in multiverse
[02:02] <weedar> yahalom: use http://www.ubuntuguide.org/ to get mplayer and other goodies installed :)
[02:03] <yahalom> Seveas, E: Couldn't find package mplayer
[02:03] <Fator_Dee> yahalom: do you have the repositories enabled?
[02:03] <yahalom> weedar, ubuntuguide broke my ubuntu
[02:03] <yahalom> Fator_Dee, yes
[02:03] <Fator_Dee> yahalom: universe and multiverse?
[02:03] <yahalom> Fator_Dee, yes
[02:03] <Fator_Dee> yahalom: did you sudo apt-get update?
[02:03] <flankk> lol
[02:03] <yahalom> Fator_Dee, yes
[02:04] <Fator_Dee> are you sure of both :-|
[02:04] <gnix_oag> hollel
[02:04] <yahalom> Fator_Dee, yes :)
[02:04] <weedar> wow, I just recently installed Kubuntu (ubuntu with KDE) and I followed almost all of the guide with success
[02:04] <Fator_Dee> then it's officially strange
[02:04] <Seveas> yahalom, http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/61
[02:04] <Seveas> it's not called mplayer..
[02:04] <UbuntuPenguin> Hello all. Any master of iptables? I require help. Thanks.
[02:04] <Fator_Dee> Seveas: what then :-O
[02:05] <Seveas> Fator_Dee, look at that pastebin url :)
[02:05] <yahalom> Seveas, dont get any of that
[02:05] <yahalom> Seveas, onyl when i had nerim i got that
[02:05] <Seveas> yahalom, apt-cache search mplayer
[02:05] <Balu> Hi everyone
[02:05] <Fator_Dee> Seveas: I thought it would get some package automatically from just mplayer :-|
[02:05] <yahalom> Seveas, ackstein:~$ sudo apt-cache search mplayer
[02:05] <yahalom> mga-vid-source - Kernel driver for the back-end scaler on Matrox cards (source)
[02:05] <yahalom> avigail@blackstein:~$
[02:05] <yahalom> wow long sorry
[02:06] <Balu> kubuntu did not detect my cdrecorder :(
[02:06] <yahalom> Balu, #kubuntu
[02:06] <ice_1963> lol
[02:06] <Fator_Dee> yahalom: it seems you don't have the right repos or you haven't updated, they should be found
[02:06] <Balu> I wonder if all I need to do is add to the boot... hdc=ide-scsi
[02:06] <Fator_Dee> yahalom: and you don't need sudo with apt-cache
[02:06] <yahalom> Fator_Dee, can i query u my repos?
[02:06] <Balu> yahalom: kubuntu = ubuntu ;) or is the installation different?
[02:06] <tommi^> The laptop team's (leader Matthew Garret) page seems bit outdated. Are there any news from the team?
[02:06] <Fator_Dee> yahalom: put them on some pastebin service
[02:07] <yahalom> ok
[02:07] <Sauron21> hi....is there anyway to change the interface name of eth1(which is my wireless card) to  wlan0 ??
[02:07] <yahalom> Fator_Dee, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/292631
[02:08] <yahalom> Balu, kde is always different
[02:08] <Fikrann> Sauron21, ifrename
[02:08] <Fator_Dee> yahalom: try without the il.
[02:08] <Youval> Question:  Has anyone had experience with an Intel 915P motherboard?
[02:08] <yahalom> Fator_Dee, us?
[02:09] <Fator_Dee> yahalom: just archive.ubuntu.com etc etc
[02:09] <podge> IIIEars: xspell.pl crashes my x-chat.. :(
[02:09] <Seveas> IIIEars, grab these files http://ubuntulinux.nl/~dennis/faq.py http://ubuntulinux.nl/~dennis/faq.dat and put them in ~/.xchat/
[02:10] <Seveas> IIIEars, then do /py load faq.py
[02:10] <Seveas> it will be auto-loaded from the next start of xchat on
[02:11] <Balu> yahalom: cdrecord ist not kde
[02:11] <Balu> :)
[02:11] <yahalom> Fator_Dee, same
[02:12] <podge> Only $188 (AUD) for Microsoft Office Student and Teacher Edition... too much? :)
[02:12] <Fator_Dee> well I'll be damned :-\
[02:12] <ys76> Balu: But k3b is
[02:12] <yahalom> Fator_Dee, i'm telling u i never got it without nerim
[02:12] <Balu> ys76: the problem is on console level, not a kde app
[02:12] <Fator_Dee> yahalom: but that's just... unbelievebla
[02:12] <Fator_Dee> *ble
[02:12] <Balu> cdrecord -scanbus tells me that "No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver."
[02:13] <Echelon-H> how can I unzip a rar?
[02:13] <yahalom> Balu, sorry man. i thought kde wanst detecting ur cdrom
[02:13] <Balu> nah :)
[02:13] <Seveas> Echelon-H, sudo aptitude install unrar-nonfree
[02:13] <yahalom> Fator_Dee, so what do i  do ?: )
[02:13] <Seveas> and use unrar e [rarfile] 
[02:13] <Echelon-H> Seveas, what's nonfree?
[02:13] <Fator_Dee> yahalom: you sure you searched for mplayer-386 or some other?
[02:13] <ys76> Balu: Try cdrecord -dev=ATAPI: -scanbus
[02:13] <Seveas> Echelon-H, non-open-source
[02:13] <Seveas> but it works :)
[02:13] <Fikrann> podge, that's $180 more than I'd pay for product from One Microsoft Way.
[02:13] <Fator_Dee> yahalom: like mplayer-k7 mplayer-586 etc
[02:13] <Echelon-H> and what's aptitude?
[02:13] <Echelon-H> why not apt-get install?
[02:14] <Fator_Dee> yahalom: whatever your processor is
[02:14] <yahalom> Fator_Dee, E: Couldn't find package mplayer-386
[02:14] <Seveas> aptitude is better :)
[02:14] <Balu> ys76: no result either :(
[02:14] <Echelon-H> Seveas, can you explain why?
[02:14] <IIIEars> Hi Echelon-H
[02:14] <yahalom> E: Couldn't find package mplayer-k7
[02:14] <Echelon-H> IIIEars, hi
[02:14] <yahalom> E: Couldn't find package mplayer-586
[02:14] <r0d> I recently upgrade apps w/ synaptic and rebooted. after that synaptic and apt-get dont work. when using apt-get i get 'segmentation fault
[02:14] <thoreauputic> yahalom: your sources are wrong
[02:14] <Balu> ok, I'll try to load some ide-scsi at boot... we'll see if that helps
[02:14] <yahalom> thoreauputic, in what way? these are what i got with my new install
[02:14] <Balu> later
[02:15] <ys76> Balu: There is a readme about ATAPI-Drives and cdrecord - somewhere
[02:15] <Seveas> aptitude does more administration to facilitate things like uninstalling
[02:15] <ogi_> yahalom, that's the reason
[02:15] <Fator_Dee> yahalom: enable multiverse?
[02:15] <Seveas> read the docs to find the details ;)
[02:15] <Echelon-H> Seveas, oh.
[02:15] <thoreauputic> yahalom: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[02:15] <thoreauputic> yahalom: you need universe and multiverse
[02:15] <yahalom> Fator_Dee, i just enabled whatever was there
[02:16] <Fator_Dee> yahalom: gah, I didn't see you did'nt have multiverse there :-|
[02:16] <Fikrann> r0d, you got installation errors while installing with Synaptic, didn't you.
[02:16] <thoreauputic> yahalom: add the word "multiverse" to your universe lines
[02:17] <yahalom> thanx
[02:17] <thoreauputic> then sudo apt-get update
[02:17] <r0d> Fikrann, some that it couldnt find certain servers
[02:17] <Echelon-H> how can I do locate that it will show me a path only when it found something?
[02:18] <Seveas> Echelon-H, huh? slocate does that....
[02:18] <Seveas> or do you mean something else??
[02:18] <Echelon-H> Seveas, how can i uninstall after i'm doing aptitude? is there a "better" uninstall?
[02:18] <Fikrann> r0d, while installing, not downloading.
[02:18] <IIIEars> lol - just munged that .pl script comepletly - rofl
[02:18] <Seveas> sudo aptitude purge :)
[02:18] <r0d> Fikrann, while installing yea
[02:19] <Seveas> IIIEars, have you seen my faqscript already..?
[02:19] <Tallia1> HI! do u know a good p2p program for ubuntu?
[02:19] <IIIEars> No. - Can i?
[02:19] <Seveas> it's python, so better readable than perl ;)
[02:19] <Seveas> IIIEars, grab these files http://ubuntulinux.nl/~dennis/faq.py http://ubuntulinux.nl/~dennis/faq.dat and put them in ~/.xchat/
[02:19] <Seveas> IIIEars, then do /py load faq.py
[02:19] <podge> perl rocks.. :)
[02:19] <Seveas> it will be auto-loaded from the next start of xchat on
[02:19] <Seveas> perl is evil
[02:19] <IIIEars> Outstanding! Thank You.
[02:19] <Seveas> python is better :)
[02:20] <podge> haha.. but where was python when perl was first around? :)
[02:20] <Seveas> not invented yet, but if you go that way, use fortran...
[02:20] <podge> Seveas: Go assembly even.. :)
[02:21] <podge> Seveas: I didn't know perl until I started my current job about 5 years ago..
[02:21] <r0d> Fikrann,  so am i screwed?
[02:21] <Seveas> podge, by that time, python was 4 years old ;)
[02:22] <Fikrann> r0d, by not paying attention to warnings, yes.
[02:23] <Fikrann> podge, I must say that I've seen perl programs far less readable than anything you can do in assembly.
[02:23] <r0d> Fikrann, um its not like i could say yes or no.
[02:23] <bigfoot> i have python2.3-fuse, should i delete that and instead install python2.4-fuse?
[02:23] <IIIEars> New toys! :) - bbl
[02:24] <podge> Fikrann: No arguments there.. :)
[02:24] <podge> Seveas: I do need to learn python.. It is going to be bigger than Perl one day..
[02:24] <egg|-_-> python,ruby,lua ...
[02:24] <egg|-_-> toys
[02:24] <Seveas> podge, indeed, it's better so eventually it will be bigger ;
[02:24] <Seveas> ;)
[02:25] <Seveas> podge, sudo aptitude install diveintopython
[02:25] <Seveas> :)
[02:25] <egg|-_-> java would be dead
[02:26] <egg|-_-> that's all
[02:26] <chrissturm> yeah, lets discuss what language is the best :P
[02:26] <egg|-_-> perl
[02:26] <egg|-_-> perl + shell scripts
[02:26] <chrissturm> i was kidding
[02:26] <thoreauputic> 00000111101111000011111
[02:26] <egg|-_-> + console tools
[02:26] <Seveas> 01100010 01101001 01101110 01100001 01110010 01111001 00100000 01101001 01110011 00100000 00110001 00110011 00110011 00110111
[02:27] <podge> Seveas: Good point..
[02:27] <Seveas> :)
[02:27] <Zambba> in 
[02:27] <Seveas> 70 6f 69 6e
[02:28] <egg|-_-> firefox culculator  souks
[02:31] <Zambba> Hello, my friends Grub is somehow borken.. there is Windows on menu.lst but while booting the Grub doesn't appear.. :S
[02:31] <Zambba> broken*
[02:31] <bigfoot> to anybody with an answer: i have python2.3-fuse, should i delete that and instead install python2.4-fuse?
[02:31] <Seveas> Zambba, so it boots straight into linux?
[02:32] <bigfoot> is 2.4 an upgrade +
[02:32] <bigfoot> ?
[02:32] <Seveas> bigfoot, default python in hoary is 2.4, so yes install python2.4-fuse
[02:33] <othernoob> hey, i'm having problems booting xp.. it appears in grub, but when i choose it i get a "virus: bootsector writing Y/N" message and can't do anything but reboot. menu.lst is configured properly.
[02:33] <bigfoot> Seveas, thanks. How come my Ubuntu CD had 2.3 installed instead?
[02:33] <Seveas> is that a warty cd?
[02:34] <Fikrann> bigfoot, Python 2.4 is somewhat different from 2.3, it's different release, so no, it's not a simple upgrade.
[02:34] <Seveas> othernoob, sounds like you have either installed a very intrusive virus scanner or a virus
[02:34] <bigfoot> Seveas, should i install 2.4 first, then uninstall 2.3 next? or can i do both at the same time (in synaptic)? The CD i used was the one from shipit.ubuntu.org. It's Ubunut version 5.04.
[02:34] <bigfoot> Fikrann, what then must be done?
[02:35] <Seveas> you can have both python2.4 and python2.3 installed at the same time
[02:35] <Fikrann> yes, you can have both.
[02:35] <bigfoot> seveas, what benefit is there of having 2.3 if you have 2.4? doesn't 2.4 do everything that 2.3 can, except better and maybe more?
[02:36] <bigfoot> do you guys have both installed?
[02:36] <Seveas> you can remove 2.3 too
[02:36] <bigfoot> is that what you recommend?
[02:36] <Seveas> i have removed it
[02:36] <thoreauputic> bigfoot: odd: i have Hoary and `python -V` says Python 2.4.1
[02:36] <othernoob> Seveas: kinda unlikely, i uninstalled kubuntu 2 days because i followed some guys advice on how to remove gnome, which led me to have a 640*480 screen res in kde. so i uninstalled it and installed it again just like before.. and before, xp and grub were having no problems.
[02:36] <capi> how do I reinstall a package with apt-get?
[02:36] <othernoob> 2 days ago *
[02:37] <thoreauputic> capi: sudo apt-get install --reinstall <package>
[02:37] <bigfoot> thoreauputic, hi. i did  python -V just now and it says 2.4.1, as well. But in synaptic python2.4-fuse is not installed. I'm confused.
[02:38] <Seveas> othernoob, in that case: i have no idea
[02:38] <othernoob> :/
[02:38] <bigfoot> if a program's instructions says "make sure that you have python 2.3 installed," does this mean "python 2.3 or 2.4"?
[02:39] <Seveas> bigfoot, no, that means 2.3
[02:39] <Seveas> if it says 2.3 or higher, it means 2.3 or 2.4
[02:39] <hans_> how con i extract a splitted rar archive?
[02:39] <thoreauputic> bigfoot: erm, why not install  python2.4-fuse from the universe repo?
[02:39] <bigfoot> seveas, how come python -V says 2.4.1, but synaptic shows python2.4-fuse is uninstalled? Are they not the samet thing?
[02:40] <thoreauputic> bigfoot: evidently not
[02:40] <Seveas> bigfoot, no
[02:40] <featheredfrog> Anyone got a mind for a question?
[02:40] <Seveas> python2.4-fuse is a module for python 2.4
[02:40] <Seveas> python2.3-fuse is a module for python 2.3
[02:40] <Fikrann> othernoob, try booting some recovery CD and run a virus check on your windoze partition.
[02:40] <Seveas> featheredfrog, read the first part of the topic...
[02:40] <bigfoot> i have mind, but i may not have an answer featheredfrog. 8-) i'm a newbie.
[02:40] <thoreauputic> bigfoot: apt-cache show  python2.4-fuse
[02:41] <bigfoot> thoreauputic, i just finished getting 2.4fuse via synaptic, do i still need to do: apt-cache show  python2.4-fuse?
[02:41] <othernoob> Fikrann: i hardly ever use XP and XP is not connected to the internet.. and there are just like 5 progs installed..
[02:41] <featheredfrog> okay okay.  IBM TP 600x (pIII, 128M) attempting to boot the live CD (5.04), goes okay until "starting GNOME", where it hangs.  Ideas?
[02:41] <thoreauputic> bigfoot: only if you want to know what it is and why it is different from python 2.4.1 :)
[02:42] <bigfoot> thoreauputic, i did it. Do you want to see the results? Shall i post it in flood?
[02:42] <Fikrann> othernoob, do you have "makeactive" command in your menu.lst?
[02:42] <thoreauputic> bigfoot: no - I thought it might be informative, that's all :)
[02:42] <bigfoot> okay.
[02:42] <Seveas> featheredfrog, try switching to other virtual terminals with <alt><f1> to <alt><f7> to see error messages...
[02:42] <othernoob> Fikrann yes
[02:42] <capi> apt-get --reintsll is getting me a `E: Invalid operation..'
[02:43] <Fikrann> othernoob, remove it and try again.
[02:43] <Seveas> --reinstall
[02:43] <othernoob> Fikrann: the menu.lst looks just like it used to before i uninstalled and reinstalled kubuntu
[02:43] <Seveas> and it's apt-get install --reinstall
[02:43] <thoreauputic> capi: um ... " --reinstall "
[02:43] <Seveas> please READ what people type...
[02:43] <featheredfrog> seveas:  thanks: good idea (I shulda thunk of that...)
[02:43] <featheredfrog> thanks
[02:43] <capi> yeah, I know, I just typoed. I was using --reinstall
[02:43] <featheredfrog> 1
[02:44] <thoreauputic> capi: apt-get install --reinstall <package>
[02:44] <Fikrann> othernoob, you seem to have annoyingly aggressive bios boot sector protection, then.
[02:44] <thoreauputic> capi: noter the "install"
[02:44] <bigfoot> Which files/packages are the "Python Fuse bindings"?
[02:44] <thoreauputic> *note
[02:44] <capi> got it
[02:44] <othernoob> heh Asus board..
[02:45] <Seveas> othernoob, (ping) idea!
[02:45] <othernoob> oO
[02:45] <Seveas> comment out all the savedefault lines in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:45] <podge> Seveas: Did I say that Perl rocks? :)
[02:47] <morita> hola soy venezolana!!!
[02:47] <Seveas> morita, we speak english in here
[02:47] <morita> ok....
[02:47] <bigfoot> A Program's instructions tell me that I need to have "python fuse bindings". Is this the python2.3-fuse and python2.4-fuse files?
[02:47] <we2by> hola morita
[02:47] <morita> where are you from?
[02:47] <othernoob> Seveas: including the savedefault lines for linux ?
[02:48] <morita> hola d dond eres
[02:48] <Fikrann> bigfoot, both. Install both and you'll be sure.
[02:48] <Seveas> bigfoot, if you want to use python2.4, you need the 2.4-fuse modules, same for 2.3
[02:48] <we2by> Soy de Europa
[02:48] <we2by> y tu?
[02:48] <Seveas> othernoob, try it :)
[02:48] <morita> q bien venezolana...
[02:48] <Seveas> we2by, please stick to english or talk in #ubuntu-es
[02:48] <we2by> bien, tienes algunas problema con Ubuntu?
[02:48] <we2by> ok
[02:49] <we2by> Seveas, tiene que chatiar en #ubuntu-es, aqio se hablan el ingle solo
[02:49] <thoreauputic> bigfoot: this is why I suggested apt-cache show ; quote >> Description: Python bindings for FUSE (Filesystems in USErland)
[02:49] <Seveas> we2by, i do not speak spanish, like most of the people here
[02:49] <spity> anyone knows what's broken on g++ in breezy?
[02:49] <Seveas> so please stick to english in here
[02:49] <Seveas> spity, ROFL!
[02:49] <we2by> Seveas, wrong nick there.
[02:50] <morita> bueno si... no puedo escuchar mp3!!!
[02:50] <spity> Seveas: yes?
[02:50] <mimosita> hola
[02:50] <Seveas> spity, there is a major c++ transition going on...
[02:50] <mos> my mouse no go
[02:50] <Seveas> so a lot of c++ things are broken atm
[02:50] <mimosita> en espaol
[02:50] <Fikrann> spity, nothin, as far as I can tell, it works well for me.
[02:50] <morita> ayudame en  eso!!
[02:50] <mimosita> porfavor
[02:50] <spity> Seveas: i know, but i wonder about g++ not about libraries
[02:50] <Seveas> mimosita/morita #ubuntu-es
[02:50] <othernoob> Seveas: gonna try it now
[02:50] <mos> wheres the config file will allyour driver settings and stuff?
[02:50] <spity> Fikrann: ok
[02:50] <Seveas> mos /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:51] <mos> thanks
[02:51] <Seveas> mos, serial mouse?
[02:51] <mos> :)
[02:51] <mos> Seveas, yeah
[02:51] <Fikrann> spity, but listdc++ from Breezy is giving problems .. OO.org crashes on it.
[02:51] <Seveas> mos, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:51] <bigfoot> i need to "grab a CVS version" of a file. How do i do that?
[02:51] <Fator_Dee> are we going to see some general speed enhancements on programs with breezy?
[02:51] <Seveas> mos, skip through all questions until you reach the mouse questions
[02:51] <mos> Seveas, thanks
[02:51] <morita> i can't listen to mp3...how do do???
[02:52] <morita> help me!!!
[02:52] <Seveas> make sure mouseport is set to /dev/ttys0 (com1) or /dev/ttys1 (com2)
[02:52] <Seveas> morita: http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/RestrictedFormats
[02:52] <Fikrann> bigfoot, cvs -z3 -d pserver@wherever.com co foobar
[02:53] <mos> Seveas, er how do i tab to the text in xchat???????
[02:53] <spity> Fikrann: hmm, i've tried building part of KDE's SVN and it seems there are some strange bugs that were not present before transition - like keybindings not working
[02:53] <mos> dumm x chat
[02:53] <morita> ya t vi luisa!! :-)
[02:53] <Seveas> mos, hmm??
[02:53] <mos> Seveas, i mean i want to copy paste your words
[02:53] <bigfoot> Fikrann, i need some step-by-step help. Can you help a newbie?
[02:53] <mos> Seveas, with no mouse
[02:53] <Seveas> hmm, good one
[02:54] <bigfoot> the webpage's instructions are too technical for me, you see, Fikrann.
[02:54] <mos> lol
[02:54] <Seveas> no idea actually
[02:54] <thoreauputic> mos: highlight,, middle mouse button to paste
[02:54] <thoreauputic> mos: ah, no mouse, sorry
[02:54] <capi> I'm confused, both apt-get remove <deb> && apt-get install <deb> OR apt-get install --reinstall <deb> don't seem to do anything to the package?
[02:54] <mos> Seveas, xchats dum as
[02:54] <mos> Seveas, worse than all irc's ive used
[02:54] <Seveas> mos, shall i re-type it in a private message so it will no scroll away?
[02:54] <Fikrann> spity, I don't know. Are you certain it's not caused by missing dependency libs?
[02:55] <mos> Seveas, na i can page up
[02:55] <morita> please, i can't listen mp3.....
[02:55] <Seveas> morita: http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/RestrictedFormats
[02:55] <Seveas> read that
[02:55] <Rebroad> I have a kernel compilation question - is this the right channel to ask it please?
[02:55] <mos> Seveas, thanks though
[02:55] <Fator_Dee> mos: just click three times in succession to copy the whole line
[02:55] <Seveas> Rebroad, yes
[02:55] <thoreauputic> capi: if you need to remove the configuration, use apt-get remove --purge <package>
[02:55] <Fikrann> bigfoot, if your progam readme does not state how to get things out of cvs, I can't help.
[02:55] <ubermonzie> hi all fellow Human Linux Users!
[02:55] <Fikrann> Rebroad, fire away.
[02:55] <Fator_Dee> mos: or 2 times to copy a word
[02:56] <spity> Fikrann: no, the environment is the same as before the transition began - dependency libs wise
[02:56] <we2by> my damn firefox does not cache webpages
[02:56] <bigfoot> Fikrann, it does, but i don't understand it. 8-(. coz i'm a newbie.
[02:56] <Seveas> Fator_Dee, with no mouse...?
[02:56] <Rebroad> Seveas, thanks. Well, I'm wanting to compile the ubuntu linux kernel. I've configured it to use my existing config, so I was expecting the compiled kernel to behave in the exact same way as the kernel it's currently using, but it doesn't. The size is different, I have no initrd.img file, and it's unable to boot!
[02:56] <Fikrann>  /query me and paste the relevant section, then.
[02:56] <Zambba> Seveas: Yes it boots straight to linux
[02:56] <Zambba> sorry for "lag" i was afk
[02:57] <thoreauputic> bigfoot: newbie and CVS probably should not appear in the same sentence ;)
[02:57] <Rebroad> Seveas, it was giving a VFS error I think, when I tried to boot. Kernel panic, unable to mount block 0,0 or something like that.
[02:57] <mimosita> en espaollllllllllllllllllllllllll
[02:57] <Seveas> Rebroad, did you use the ubuntu sources? you should make an initrd manually, without initrd a kernel with modules cannot boot
[02:57] <capi> thoreauputic: that doesn't seem to do anything either, Some of the packages vital files got removed, and now I'm trying to install the package all over again? What do I use for this?
[02:57] <Seveas> Zambba, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and increase the timeout
[02:58] <bigfoot> but if "thoreauputic" OR "experienced" were added to the sentence, we can get some magic!
[02:58] <Fator_Dee> Seveas: well, duh :-|
[02:58] <Fikrann> thoreauputic, Well, sometimes newbies need to get their software out of cvs, too.
[02:58] <thoreauputic> capi: how did those files get removed?
[02:58] <Rebroad> Seveas, I see.. the kernel source package didn't mention how I create the initrd.img file. Do you know how I create this file please?
[02:58] <Seveas> Rebroad, use make-kpkg to compile the kernel, you can find it in the package: kernel-package
[02:58] <Rebroad> Seveas,  thanks
[02:59] <Seveas> that will create a .deb fil with your new kernel
[02:59] <Seveas> you can easily install that one
[02:59] <Fikrann> :dislikes initrd.
[02:59] <mos> Fator_Dee, thanks  but i need to do it with the kebord i have no mouse
[02:59] <capi> thoreauputic: I'm not sure, someone else did it, I believe the rm or shred command
[02:59] <thoreauputic> capi: :(
[03:00] <Rebroad> Seveas, cool.
[03:00] <capi> thoreauputic: I feel the same way, so is there any way to install the package again like it's the first time?
[03:00] <l0de> hey guys
[03:01] <l0de> is ubunto better than dual boot gentoo?
[03:01] <thoreauputic> capi: I don't really know: I've never been in your situation - maybe someone else can help
[03:01] <Fikrann> capi, use L command in aptitude.
[03:01] <Fator_Dee> ubermonzie: no it wouldn't
[03:01] <l0de> ubermonzie wonders does not make sense in that sentence?
[03:01] <l0de> you are making a declarative statement?
[03:01] <Fator_Dee> ubermonzie: the size of the cd would rise up
[03:01] <Seveas> ubermonzie, kubuntu and ubuntu ARE a single distro
[03:01] <Seveas> exactly the same packages are available
[03:01] <Rebroad> Seveas, would you know an easy way to test my new kernel without me having to reboot?!
[03:02] <Seveas> it's just a different set of default packages
[03:02] <Fator_Dee> Seveas: he mebbe meant that on the same cd? (misunderstanding?)
[03:02] <Seveas> Rebroad, no, rebooting is the test
[03:02] <capi> Fikrann, what do I want to do in aptitude after the L command?
[03:02] <Fikrann> capi, this marks the package for reinstallation.
[03:02] <srid> keybindings for gnome apps is broken in Ubuntu Breezy!
[03:02] <srid> how to fix this??
[03:02] <Rebroad> Seveas, I have another PC with no harddisk. could I boot the new kernel via NFS or something on the other PC?
[03:03] <Seveas> Rebroad, no idea...
[03:03] <othernoob> Seveas: i still got the message "Boot Sector Writing: Virus: Continue Y/N) but could choose Y, and it booted xp
[03:03] <ubermonzie> but dear Seveas, are they on two different cds/iso images?
[03:03] <ubermonzie> Dont you have to download them seperateley..
[03:03] <thoreauputic> othernoob: how appropriate! :D
[03:03] <othernoob> lol
[03:03] <ubermonzie> Still does not do the work for me
[03:04] <ubermonzie> KDE and GNOME both have their uses
[03:04] <othernoob> looks like it screwed the mbr when i installed kubuntu again.
[03:04] <bigfoot> i tried running cvs, but bash says that the command is not found.
[03:04] <Rebroad> Seveas, erk.. I'm running make-kpkg and it's recompiling everything again... :-s
[03:04] <Seveas> ubermonzie, you can download the dvd :)
[03:04] <Fikrann> Rebroad, I'm not sure if setting up tftpd would be exactly the fastest way to test your kernel. Not to mention that the kernel needs to be specially tailored to run via netboot.
[03:04] <ubermonzie> I am working on a rural project here..
[03:04] <linukso> Hi! I'm trying out xorg composite (drop shadows and transparency), but only transparency works. If I run xcompmgr -c, I have to reboot my computer. Has anyone else experinced this? (nvidia card)
[03:05] <Rebroad> Fikrann, hehe. you're probably right, but it would be nice to have a test environment for my kernel compilations such that it doesn't impinge on my currently running environment.
[03:05] <Seveas> well, it's impossible to put both kubuntu-default and ubuntu-default on 1 cd
[03:05] <ubermonzie> and i am trying to tune Ubuntu specifically for rural purposes including regional language support etc
[03:05] <Seveas> it's simply too much
[03:05] <ubermonzie> Ya i kno
[03:05] <ubermonzie> the ads should try a 2 cd set instead
[03:05] <Fikrann> Rebroad, grub makes rebooting to new kernels easy
[03:05] <thoreauputic> ubermonzie: you can install kde on ubuntu with `sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop`
[03:06] <ubermonzie> and containing all the multimedia files like libdvdcss etc
[03:06] <ubermonzie> i know thoreauputic
[03:06] <ubermonzie> but i want to implement a rural soln here
[03:06] <thoreauputic> ubermonzie: that's not possible ( libdvdcss etc) for legal reasons
[03:06] <ubermonzie> why?
[03:07] <ubermonzie> i downloaded it and i am using it now
[03:07] <Fator_Dee> ubermonzie: they are illegal in some countries
[03:07] <capi> Fikrann, what exactly is the L command, CTRL-L?
[03:07] <bigfoot> anybody know of a better alternative to flickr.com? I like flickr.com, but it shrinks images. And if i want to download my pictures from flickr.com, it's not the original file size/quality. What do you all recommend?
[03:07] <Rebroad> Fikrann, for instance, I'd like to compile and test kernels, while still doing other things, such as web browsing, or downloading Star Wars Episode 3, etc.
[03:07] <ubermonzie> how do i know whether it is legal in my country or not: India
[03:08] <Fator_Dee> ubermonzie: you'd have to study your countrys legislation (is that the proper word for it :-p)
[03:08] <ubermonzie> I have tried convincing friends to use linux, but nobody here would use an OS that cannot play videos
[03:08] <crimsun> ubermonzie: check with a councillor in your jurisdiction
[03:08] <ubermonzie> thanks crimsun and Fator_Dee
[03:09] <Fator_Dee> ubermonzie: and it's easy to set up ubuntu to play all videos you usually encounter
[03:09] <UbuntuPenguin> Any man for help with iptables?
[03:10] <ubermonzie> No it isnt , Fator_Dee. Ubuntu was not able to play most of my Videos and none of my mp3's by default
[03:10] <ubermonzie> May i help UbuntuPenguin?
[03:10] <thoreauputic> UbuntuPenguin: umm - "man iptables" ?
[03:10] <crimsun> ubermonzie: there are various restrictions on patented technology in many countries
[03:11] <thoreauputic> UbuntuPenguin: did you even try it?
[03:11] <mimosita> luisa respondeme
[03:11] <Luisita> que quieres que te diga?
[03:11] <ubermonzie> hmm
[03:11] <Fator_Dee> ubermonzie: not by default no, but it takes <15min to set it up to play them
[03:11] <mimosita> hi please
[03:12] <mimosita> a need youuuuuuuuu
[03:12] <ubermonzie> then the point is crimsun, that i will find it very difficult to push through my Ubuntu-Rural project.
[03:12] <Fator_Dee> ubermonzie: you could make your own add-on cd with all the packages=
[03:12] <ubermonzie> Multimedia is one of the main draws that convince a user to switch from closed source to open source
[03:12] <ubermonzie> I have made that Fator_Dee
[03:13] <ubermonzie> Now i am currently trying to fit all of that on a single cd
[03:13] <son_of_jd> what is breezy?
[03:13] <ubermonzie> removing sendmail, postfix etc..
[03:13] <Fator_Dee> but it's just not possible on canonical's side, ubuntu can't be illegal to be distributable
[03:13] <ubermonzie> breezy is the new Ubuntu release son_of_jd
[03:13] <son_of_jd> oh
[03:14] <ubermonzie> the guys aere still working on it
[03:14] <son_of_jd> oh
[03:14] <capi> nope, aptitude didn't do a thing either. :\
[03:14] <ubermonzie> but i have check if it's legal from my side.. Fator_Dee
[03:15] <thoreauputic> ubermonzie: someone tried to distribute a CD with all extras, but had to stop
[03:15] <Rebroad> Seveas, thanks for your help. I've now installed the deb package it created, but it doesn't appear to have created an additional initrd.img file...
[03:16] <dr_willis> thoreauputic,  you mean that ubuntu add-on cd?
[03:16] <Fator_Dee> thoreauputic: I think it was the ubuntuguide guy, but I don't think that ubermonzie is going to distribute it over the internet
[03:16] <thoreauputic> dr_willis: yes
[03:16] <dr_willis> thoreauputic,  heh - its handy :P
[03:16] <ubermonzie> Hoary is one of the cleanest, smallest Linuxes around, but from my point of view.. it needs some major changes to be successfull in Linux-Crazy India
[03:16] <thoreauputic> Fator_Dee: quite so - for local use he may not have any problems
[03:17] <Aquarion> Anyone got Fuse working on ubuntu?
[03:17] <Fator_Dee> thoreauputic: and no one has to know (don't get caught :-p)
[03:17] <ubermonzie> but thoreauputic, if i put it up on a site hosted in India (assuming its legal here)....
[03:17] <thoreauputic> ubermonzie: unfortunately, some of the things you want from ubuntu are not currently possible
[03:18] <alexmacy> hi
[03:18] <Fator_Dee> thoreauputic: but I think there are a lot of able programmers on India :-)
[03:18] <ubermonzie> and someone from say , the US downloads it, it's not my fault, isnt it?
[03:18] <ubermonzie> why thoreauputic?
[03:18] <ubermonzie> i am an RHCE thoreauputic!
[03:18] <Fator_Dee> ubermonzie: yes it's their fault, atleast I have undestood so
[03:18] <thoreauputic> ubermonzie: I think you would still run into issues with mp3 etc ( but I am not a lawyer) :)
[03:18] <ubermonzie> hmm
[03:19] <dr_willis> go ask ebay about all these 'its not our fault' lawsuits. :P
[03:19] <ubermonzie> say..some freaky russian sites?
[03:19] <Fator_Dee> ubermonzie: but you would just have to be very carefull on what you are going to put to be downloaded to be safe
[03:19] <thoreauputic> ubermonzie: I didn't mean you couldn't do things :) Just that Canonical have legal stuff to worry about...
[03:20] <ubermonzie> i want a one-cd linux for poor people, most of whom will be using the computer for the first time
[03:20] <ubermonzie> and most of them dont know english
[03:20] <ubermonzie> so that's why i was asking som many ques...
[03:20] <Rebroad> ubermonize: you'd need a notice on your sight informing people that it may be illegal for them to download it, and that it's up to them to ensure it is legal before clicking on download.
[03:20] <morita> i come back..
[03:21] <Fator_Dee> quite a project to translate all of ubuntu :-o
[03:21] <ubermonzie> thanks Rebroad, but i plan on burining and distrubuting the cd's freely first
[03:21] <thoreauputic> ubermonzie: what you are doing sounds great by the way : I wish you well !
[03:22] <jansen> anyone freei wanna compile the kernel but some errors!
[03:22] <ubermonzie> thanks thoreauputic, i will probably use GNOME... but i guess XFCE is the better choice
[03:22] <Fator_Dee> ubermonzie: maybe you could ask some information from canonical or some ubuntu developers directly?
[03:22] <ubermonzie> #linux is better for this dear jansen
[03:22] <thoreauputic> ubermonzie: Xfce is smaller, I guess - and better on old machines
[03:22] <ubermonzie> ya .... i know thoreauputic
[03:22] <thoreauputic> ubermonzie: or icewm maybe?
[03:23] <jansen> ubermonzie i'm using the ubuntu
[03:23] <ubermonzie> i thought most of you people were developers of Ubuntu, dear, Fator_Dee.
[03:23] <thoreauputic> ubermonzie: I know you know :) Just agreeing
[03:23] <ubermonzie> :-)
[03:23] <Fator_Dee> ubermonzie: no, not at all, atleast I'm not :-D
[03:23] <jansen> ubermonzie linux :That channel doesn't exist
[03:23] <thoreauputic> ubermonzie: no, this is the help channel
[03:23] <UbuntuPenguin> thoreauputic: i reading man pages and tutorials and not work ;-(( from morning...
[03:23] <Fator_Dee> ubermonzie: I just like to hang out in here and help people if I can
[03:23] <ubermonzie> it does dear
[03:24] <thoreauputic> jansen: there is a developers channel
[03:24] <ubermonzie> I too like helping people.. but at a more grassroots level.
[03:24] <Fikrann> ubermonzie, I'd suggest Gnome + Openbox instead of metacity.
[03:25] <ubermonzie> in a poor but rapidly developing like india,,, its important to use OpenSource
[03:25] <thoreauputic> ubermonzie: if you are a developer, have you tried the developers mailing list?
[03:25] <jansen> thoreauputic that channel not exist!
[03:25] <ubermonzie> OpenBox.. will surely try it.. thanks Fikrann
[03:25] <ubermonzie> no .. thoreauputic
[03:25] <UbuntuPenguin> ubermonzie, have you time for my for helping with iptables?
[03:25] <thoreauputic> jansen: I'm sorry to contradict you yet again, but I'm in it right now
[03:25] <ubermonzie> this is the first time i am discussing it
[03:26] <medkit> what is the default passphrase for cups on localhost? It does not accept my usual account?
[03:26] <ubermonzie> i was fiddlng with it all alone!
[03:26] <luxo_> fikrann: what do you think abot fluxbox with gnome-panel?
[03:26] <thoreauputic> jansen: #ubuntu-devel on this server
[03:26] <Fikrann> medkit, it needs your root password.
[03:27] <medkit> it has got it, but does not accept it
[03:27] <jansen> thoreauputic thx
[03:27] <thoreauputic> ubermonzie: there is also a users mailing list with quite a few knowledgeable people
[03:27] <ubermonzie> Its tough dealing with customized distributions,, especially on a slow computer like mine
[03:27] <Fikrann> luxo_, I have used such configuration, but gnome-panel by itself is just useless .. I prefer gdesklet for that.
[03:28] <ubermonzie> will surely join it. thanks thoreauputic.. i just thought irc would be a better bet..
[03:28] <ubermonzie> i am too impatient to wait for mails!
[03:28] <thoreauputic> ubermonzie: you're welcome any time, of course !
[03:29] <vladimir> any one here have tried to set up a 1280x854 display? I've treid editing xorg.conf and no luck at all
[03:29] <ubermonzie> I may end up using KDE (against my wishes).. as it has really good local lang support
[03:29] <thoreauputic> ubermonzie: the response time on the users mailing list is quite fast: it's a high traffic list
[03:29] <dooglus> someone sent me some word documents to proof-read and correct.
[03:29] <ubermonzie> there is an indian Linux project and they have converted the ENTIRE kde 3.3 to various local languages!
[03:29] <dooglus> I thought I'd use open office
[03:29] <ubermonzie> use it dooglus
[03:29] <dooglus> is there "revision control" in openoffice?
[03:30] <thoreauputic> ubermonzie: great stuff !
[03:30] <ubermonzie> its the best
[03:30] <UbuntuPenguin> ubermonzie, is you here?
[03:30] <dooglus> you know in ms-word, how when you make a change, it shows up as a change, so the author can see what you changed
[03:30] <dooglus> can I do that in openoffice?
[03:30] <ubermonzie> ya i am here UbuntuPenguin
[03:30] <ubermonzie> ya its there dooglus
[03:30] <dooglus> ubermonzie: how do you switch it on?
[03:31] <ubermonzie> just a min... dooglus
[03:31] <dooglus> in word theres a small word "REV" at the bottom of the screen
[03:31] <IcemanV9> dooglus: flip the switch!! :P
[03:31] <reka> vladimir, you need to put the 1280 resolution first in the list of resolutions (i.e. leftmost).
[03:31] <Fikrann> dooglus, I believe you will get your answer quicker if you ask on #openoffice.org
[03:31] <UbuntuPenguin> ubermonzie: i have problem with redirecting 80 port from server in internal network to 81 port on my gateway and my iptables not working. ;(((
[03:32] <medkit> What can i do if cups on localhost does not accept my password. I am absolutely positively sure that the passphrase is correct. I have mounted a device 1 minute before with that passphrase. I tried "cups", "admin" and my username.
[03:32] <vladimir> yeah, i've tried that, 1280x854 is the only resolution on the list
[03:32] <pfp> ubermonzie: altough i've read that india is about to allow s/w patents :/ -- http://swpat.ffii.org/log/04/nath12/index.en.html
[03:32] <ubermonzie> thanks pfp... support is the most imp reward of any developer
[03:32] <dooglus> Fikrann: we'll see
[03:32] <dr_willis> medkit,  dosent it want 'root' as the username?
[03:32] <ubermonzie> ya.. sadly yes pfp
[03:32] <St0n3-C0l> anyone using i810 here?
[03:33] <medkit> dr_willis, i'll try
[03:33] <ubermonzie> ask in openoffice room. dear dooglus
[03:33] <dooglus> ubermonzie: I did
[03:33] <Fikrann> vladimir, you need an extra modeline in xorg.conf so your server will know the hardware is capable of unstandard resolution.
[03:33] <reka> vladimir: then your refresh rates are wrong.  google for "resolution fix ubuntu"
[03:34] <pfp> it's a bit hard to understand, since at the same time India's government seems to be promoting linux & OSS
[03:34] <ubermonzie> but at the same time Open source is being adopted by all state goverment to do their E-Gov things
[03:34] <Sauron21> hi...I was wonderinf in anyone could tell me why my network interface returns to eth0 everytime I change it to wlan with ifrename.......??
[03:34] <ubermonzie> and also there are hundred of linux volunteer orgainizations here pfp
[03:34] <medkit> dr_willis, no go with root. Anything else i can try?
[03:34] <pfp> cool
[03:34] <ubermonzie> i am in one of them
[03:35] <dooglus> ubermonzie: for the record you do: edit -> changes -> record changes
[03:35] <ubermonzie> check our linuxbangalore.org pfp
[03:35] <ubermonzie> thanks dooglus
[03:35] <St0n3-C0l> ahan indian
[03:35] <spanglesontoast> how can I mount an iso as a disk?
[03:35] <St0n3-C0l> :P
[03:35] <dr_willis> medkit,  could be i always give root a password for more normal logins.. may want to check the cups.org site and docs. Ive had Little if any problems with cups.
[03:35] <ubermonzie> yes St0n3-C0l
[03:35] <St0n3-C0l> m paki :-D
[03:35] <pfp> ubermonzie: hmm, site not found
[03:36] <ubermonzie> you have to mount it as loopback filesystem dear spanglesontoast
[03:36] <MistaED> hey has anyone tried to make ubuntu use a bootsplash?
[03:36] <Fator_Dee> spanglesontoast: sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 /path/to/isofile /media/iso
[03:36] <St0n3-C0l> anyone here with i810 ??
[03:36] <spanglesontoast> ah
[03:36] <dr_willis> MistaED,  ive heard of people TRYING.. :P but thats it..
[03:36] <spanglesontoast> is it a normal process?
[03:36] <St0n3-C0l> not yet MistaED
[03:36] <Fator_Dee> spanglesontoast: and make sure you have that /media/iso directory created
[03:36] <MistaED> trying, and no replies back? lol
[03:36] <dooglus> in openoffice, when I hit a cursor key, the cursor moves, as expected, but it takes about 3 seconds to do it.
[03:36] <St0n3-C0l> i think u shud check wiki.ubuntu.com Artwork
[03:36] <ubermonzie> its http://linux-bangalore.org/ dear pfp
[03:36] <dooglus> anyone else seeing that?
[03:36] <Fator_Dee> spanglesontoast: or if you wnat to mount it to elsewhere, just point it to that directory
[03:37] <dr_willis> dooglus,  nope - works good for me.
[03:37] <spanglesontoast> ah ok
[03:37] <ubermonzie> depends on your oo build dooglus
[03:37] <dooglus> ubermonzie: I'm using hoary
[03:37] <luxo_> MistaED: i boot it only once a time and i want to see everything is [ok]  :)
[03:37] <ubermonzie> the Debian build is better than the  others dooglus
[03:38] <ubermonzie> you must be having slow hardware then dooglus
[03:38] <dooglus> ubermonzie: does hoary come with a debian build?
[03:38] <dooglus> ubermonzie: I don't think so.
[03:38] <ubermonzie> bye guys ... i gotta go!
[03:38] <ubermonzie> see ya later
[03:38] <thoreauputic> bye ubermonzie
[03:38] <Fator_Dee> bye
[03:38] <dooglus> ubermonzie: everything else reacts immediately, and the CPU is contantly very near idle.
[03:38] <MistaED> a good looking bootup is nice though, with some verbose still
[03:38] <MistaED> a progress bar is just crap
[03:39] <medkit> dr_willis, i overlooked a nice reminder on top of the http://localhost:631/ page: adminstrative commands are disabled from webbrowser for security reasons. Please use GNOME CUPS Manager. I never managed a printer get to work with the gnome panel. But surely with CUPS webfrontend.
[03:40] <dr_willis> medkit,  Lol. :P  I edited the cups config to enable the webbrowser feature.
[03:40] <dr_willis> medkit,  Ubuntu Security paranoia. :P and thats a good thing I guess.
[03:40] <dooglus> are there any tools in ubuntu to see why an app might be running slow?
[03:40] <dooglus> I know about 'top' (that shows that the cpu is idle)
[03:40] <roshlame> anyone ever started mplayer on an ubuntu system?
[03:40] <dooglus> what else could it be, if not a cpu bottleneck?
[03:41] <dr_willis> mplayer works good here.
[03:41] <MistaED> there's system monitor, dooglus
[03:41] <pfp> dooglus: 'vmstat 1' on a terminal
[03:41] <MistaED> i think in applications > something > system monitor
[03:41] <dooglus> thanks guys.
[03:41] <medkit> dr_willis, please tell me where the cups config resides and i'll be happy ever after
[03:41] <dooglus> system monitor shows me the same as top, along with memory usage?
[03:42] <roshlame> I get no movie window and i get no sound unless i kill esd
[03:42] <Fator_Dee> medkit: /etc/cups/ ?
[03:42] <dr_willis> medkit,  heh /etc/cups/ I think :P the logical place.
[03:42] <medkit> *pat*
[03:42] <dr_willis> medkit,  cups is very well documented at their homepage.  :P
[03:42] <pfp> roshlame: use esd as your output method (-ao esd)
[03:42] <medkit> dr_willis, right, thanx, sure, a blockade of mine
[03:42] <pfp> roshlame: or better yet, use totem-xine and some plugins
[03:43] <dooglus> pfp: wow, thanks!  vmstat 1 fixed it!  you're some kind of magician :)
[03:43] <reka> just to confirm, w32codecs is no longer in the repos right?
[03:44] <dr_willis> medkit,  i think its in the cupsd.conf - and i have a line like -->  Listen 127.0.0.1:631
[03:44] <Fator_Dee> reka: has it been at some time?
[03:44] <thoreauputic> reka: was it ever? I thought only marillat and such had it?
[03:44] <Fator_Dee> reka: I don't remember it ever been on ubuntus repos
[03:44] <roshlame> pfp, thanks
[03:44] <pfp> dooglus: heh, no prob :)
[03:44] <reka> thoreauputic: ah, my mistake.  that's probably it. :-)
[03:44] <St0n3-C0l> anyone using i810 :(
[03:44] <St0n3-C0l> 3d acceleration not workin
[03:45] <Fator_Dee> reka: only in marillat and backports (remember to edit them out after you used them!)
[03:45] <dooglus> pfp: very odd.  it was really slow - a 3 second response time just to move the cursor in oo.org.  now it's fine!
[03:45] <dr_willis> heh an i810 aint got much 3d to accell anyway. :P
[03:45] <St0n3-C0l> lol
[03:45] <St0n3-C0l> but still on other distros
[03:45] <St0n3-C0l> CSmash was working perfect !
[03:45] <reka> Fator_Dee: yep, i commented marillat out.  thanks.
[03:45] <St0n3-C0l> on ubuntu it's hanging alot
[03:45] <St0n3-C0l> no direct rendering
[03:46] <bino> I can't burn cd in Ubuntu. whenever I insert a blank cd and try to open it, a "Mount Error" dialog displays. I don't know why.
[03:46] <dr_willis> a blank cd cant be mounted. since theres no file system.
[03:46] <pfp> dooglus: maybe some high disk i/o? that usually slows my system down
[03:47] <Fator_Dee> bino: open the cd-burner from nautilus
[03:47] <dr_willis> i was thinking hwoever that gnome poped up some burning cd tool when ever i put in a blank cd.. (which was annoying) :P
[03:47] <St0n3-C0l> bino: mount is not required to burn a cd
[03:47] <Fator_Dee> bino: or use graveman or gnomebaker, or some other program
[03:47] <St0n3-C0l> cd-burner is annoying :P
[03:47] <morita> hello i can't listen to mp3...help
[03:47] <pfp> should probably tune somehthing in the (2.6.x) kernel
[03:47] <St0n3-C0l> I once inserted the cd and it's continiously saying "Please insert the CD and Press OKAY" and in gnomebaker..it worked perfectly
[03:48] <dooglus> pfp: nope, no disk IO at all.  it's not even swapping yet.
[03:48] <dr_willis> also i recall that for SOME reason 'dma' was disabled on my cdburner by default.. i had to  enable it.
[03:48] <reka> morita: what program?
[03:48] <thoreauputic> morita: install gstreamer0.8-mad from universe repo and use rhythmbox (music player)
[03:48] <dooglus> pfp: that's not the first time I've seen it - firefox sometimes misbehaves too
[03:48] <pfp> dooglus: so it got fixed just by running vmstat?
[03:48] <bino> Fator_Dee, when I click the "Add files" in GnomeBaker, nothing happens, why?
[03:48] <dooglus> pfp: almost certainly not.  but it got fixed at the same time as I ran vmstat.
[03:49] <St0n3-C0l> bino: Try graveman
[03:49] <dr_willis> morita,  check the ubuntu faq/wiki - they tell more details on this issue, if you want. :P
[03:49] <dooglus> pfp: and it's still fixed now that I've stopped running vmstat
[03:49] <Fikrann> bino, or k3b
[03:49] <nihao> can't download http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports/dists/hoary-backports/main/ binary-i386/Packages.gz  401 Authorization Required
[03:49] <bino> OK.
[03:49] <Fator_Dee> bino: have you selected the files to add?
[03:49] <m0r0n> I often get the message "Could not open vfs file" when attempting to play a stream from shoutcast. Any idea how to fix it?
[03:49] <dooglus> does gnome have any way of showing "most used applications" in the start menu, like kde does?
[03:49] <nihao> ?? backports don't work today??? but ping the site works
[03:50] <pfp> dooglus: it's known as "treatment by light" - open the hood, and problem disappears :)
[03:50] <St0n3-C0l> nihao: use other mirrors
[03:50] <bino> Fator_Dee, thank you.
[03:50] <Fator_Dee> pfp: the little gremlins are afraid of the light and they go away :-)
[03:50] <Fikrann> nihao, use backports mirror
[03:50] <dooglus> pfp: I've seen the same phenomenum lots of times when debugging software...  run a buggy app inside the debugger and the bug goes away.  run it normally and the bug comes back
[03:50] <St0n3-C0l> I also noticed this problem and it was giving '403 Forbidden' error to me
[03:51] <bino> Fator_Dee, I thought I should click "Add files" first. : )
[03:51] <Fator_Dee> bino: :-)
[03:51] <pfp> Fator_Dee: jep:)
[03:51] <nihao> OK, I will try.
[03:51] <thoreauputic> backports has been having bandwidth issues, I believe
[03:52] <dooglus> thoreauputic: why?
[03:52] <pfp> some sites make firefox use all CPU time w/ their mere existence... eg. mininova.org IIRC
[03:53] <medkit> dr_willis, browsing right now through cupsd.conf. But i don't want to edit the listenig port, i want to enable doing administrative tasks  over browser
[03:53] <thoreauputic> dooglus: versioning problems, broken updates etc
[03:53] <pfp> that would show up in top though
[03:53] <thoreauputic> dooglus: much grief for many when they upgraded to Hoary
[03:53] <dr_willis> medkit,  i think they disabled the listening. :P is how they disabled it.. not sure really - been a few mo since i messed with it.
[03:54] <Fikrann> medkit, the gnome cups tool worked quite well for me.
[03:55] <dooglus> thoreauputic: I never tried it, was interested to hear why you don't recommend it.  thanks.
[03:55] <dooglus> thoreauputic: what *would* you recommend as a temporary source to get, say, win32 codecs?
[03:55] <MistaED> does anyone know why esd/arts/whatever has a sound cpu overload and a way to stop it?
[03:55] <dooglus> MistaED: I stoped using esd.  I used alsa instead.
[03:55] <Fator_Dee> dooglus: marillat?
[03:56] <thoreauputic> dooglus: I used marillat testing - but I commented it out right away after I got the codecs
[03:56] <reka> dooglus: i'm contemplating using the mplayer codecs instead.
[03:56] <daush> hello
[03:56] <MistaED> dooglus: yeah i set it to use alsa in the control center, but i still get the errors
[03:56] <daush> ^4 question
[03:56] <medkit> Fikrann, lucky you. I have tried the panel on various debian version but it NEVER ever worked.
[03:56] <Fator_Dee> thoreauputic: or you can fetch it directly from the site :-p
[03:56] <daush> INSTALL ubuntu and they not reconize my MOuse!!!!!!!!!!
[03:56] <Fator_Dee> just browse through, no biggie :-)
[03:56] <thoreauputic> Fator_Dee: yes, ideed
[03:56] <thoreauputic> *indeed
[03:56] <daush> INSTALL ubuntu and they not reconize my MOuse!!!!!!!!!! what i have to do?
[03:56] <dooglus> reka: I downloaded the mplayer codecs, but I don't know how to get mplayer to use them
[03:57] <thoreauputic> daush: first, calm down
[03:57] <morita> you should unload upda!!!te
[03:57] <Fator_Dee> dooglus: just install them, mplayer should find 'em
[03:57] <daush> oka
[03:57] <daush> :D
[03:57] <morita> you should unload update!!!
[03:57] <reka> dooglus: hmm. can't help you with that i'm afraid.  i use the underrated totem :-)
[03:58] <Fator_Dee> dooglus: or what do you mean with "mplayer codecs?"
[03:58] <Fator_Dee> dooglus: can you give me an url?
[03:58] <reka> Fator_Dee: http://www4.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/codecs.html
[03:59] <dooglus> Fator_Dee: http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/all-20050412.tar.bz2
[03:59] <GaZZoo> I don't understand why VLC wan't the default player ... I seared all around trying to make the others be able to play divx , xvid etc .. and VLC JUST WORKS ... right out of the box ...
[03:59] <reka> related link: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingCodecsToTotemHowTo
[03:59] <Fator_Dee> oh those, aren't they just the same that come in w32codecs, just put them in where the w32codecs package would put them
[04:00] <Fator_Dee> I think it's /usr/lib/win32/
[04:00] <thoreauputic> dooglus: I think they should live in /usr/lib/win32 as Fator_Dee says
[04:01] <thoreauputic> Fator_Dee: yes, dpkg -L w32codecs confirms that
[04:01] <Fator_Dee> (yes, and I checked it before with locate win32 :-p)
[04:01] <dooglus> thoreauputic: oh, ok
[04:02] <thoreauputic> Fator_Dee: :)
[04:02] <daush> hey ubuntu don works with mouse that jas the jack oldest then ps2?
[04:02] <Shinaku> Uh ok, helping a friend install Ubuntu on his box
[04:02] <Shinaku> and it's locked up at "testing network repositories"
[04:02] <pfp> dooglus: i dont know if someone already pasted this, but http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[04:02] <Shinaku> which is something I've never encounted even though I've installed Ubuntu about 50 times
[04:03] <Shinaku> Any idea why it's doing this?
[04:03] <Fator_Dee> daush: you propably have to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to properly match your mouse, or try to do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and see if that finds your mouse
[04:04] <thoreauputic> pfp: the devs are working with the author to correct some errors, I think
[04:04] <dooglus> thoreauputic: that worked - I made a new directory /usr/lib/win32 and moved them all in there
[04:04] <reka> Shinaku: you sure it's locked up?  how long have you waited?  iirc someone else waited for ~15mins.  it started up again and everything went fine after that.
[04:04] <daush> oka!!! its like japanese ! :D... ._. will try better a mouse usb when  money rain.
[04:04] <thoreauputic> dooglus: aha ! :D
[04:04] <Shinaku> It's been like that for about 15 mins
[04:05] <dooglus> pfp: that ubuntuguide site suggests getting the codecs from backports
[04:05] <Shinaku> oh, it's just jumped up to 75%
[04:05] <dooglus> pfp: and apparently that's not a good idea
[04:05] <reka> Shinaku: :-) told you!
[04:05] <Shinaku> hehe
[04:05] <pfp> dooglus: why not?
[04:05] <Shinaku> This wont affect how it runs, will it?
[04:05] <thoreauputic> dooglus: amongst other things, ...
[04:05] <Fator_Dee> Shinaku: nope
[04:05] <Shinaku> oh good
[04:05] <dooglus> pfp: scroll up - thoreauputic says why not
[04:05] <Shinaku> some kind of glitch then?
[04:05] <dr_willis> heh - ive been tyring to 'breakubuntu' - and ist survived my attempts so far.
[04:05] <dr_willis> :P
[04:05] <Myrtti> backports are teh iivil
[04:06] <Fator_Dee> Shinaku: prolly just a feature :-p
[04:06] <Shinaku> haha
[04:06] <Fator_Dee> Shinaku: or not
[04:06] <thoreauputic> pfp: backports can cause problems/conflicts with updates
[04:06] <dooglus> I have one big giant massive problem left with ubuntu that stops me using it instead of windows
[04:06] <Shinaku> lets you drink some coffee
[04:06] <Seveas> dr_willis, try combining breezy & backports
[04:06] <Seveas> that'llbreak it :)(
[04:06] <dooglus> my internet connection goes down if I download stuff and move the mouse at the same time.
[04:06] <Fator_Dee> dooglus: you still have windows installed?
[04:06] <Fator_Dee> eh
[04:06] <dooglus> Fator_Dee: I have to.  It's the only OS I've found that works on this PC
[04:06] <Fator_Dee> some irq problem perhaps?
[04:06] <dooglus> Fator_Dee: yes, no doubt.
[04:07] <pfp> thoreauputic: oh... i must have had luck then, heh
[04:07] <dr_willis> Seveas,  everyone says 'dont even LOOK at breezy " :P
[04:07] <dooglus> IRQ 10 and 11 both seem 'overloaded':
[04:07] <dooglus>  10:      87931          XT-PIC  yenta, eth0, ohci_hcd, ehci_hcd
[04:07] <dooglus>  11:     370695          XT-PIC  ohci_hcd, ohci_hcd, SiS SI7012
[04:07] <Fator_Dee> dooglus: a friend of mine had a similar problem, I could ask him what he did
[04:07] <thoreauputic> pfp: yes, some people have got away with it ;-)
[04:07] <dooglus> Fator_Dee: I'd love to find a solution for the problem.
[04:07] <dooglus> Fator_Dee: I had the same problem on Mandrake, Mandriva and debian too.
[04:08] <dooglus> with kernel 2.2, with 2.4 and with 2.6
[04:08] <Shinaku> Mandriva
[04:08] <dooglus> I think 'yenta' and 'eth0' are clashing on IRQ 10
[04:08] <Fator_Dee> dooglus: he seems to be quite dead at the moment, but I think I can catch him in todays time :-p
[04:08] <Shinaku> is that the exact same as Mandrake 10.1?
[04:08] <thoreauputic> dooglus: funny that SiS7012 is on irq 11 _ I think mine is on 18
[04:08] <dooglus> thoreauputic: that's the sound card, right?
[04:09] <thoreauputic> dooglus: yes
[04:09] <dooglus> thoreauputic: do "cat /proc/interrupts" to see the IRQs
[04:09] <Fator_Dee> dooglus: you could try to change the cards places on the mobo
[04:09] <reka> GaZZoo: do you seriously recommend vlc?  what is the interface like?
[04:09] <dooglus> Fator_Dee: it's a laptop - it's all SiS stuff, and not swappable
[04:09] <Fator_Dee> :-p
[04:09] <Fator_Dee> swap it with a hammer
[04:10] <thoreauputic> dooglus: 18:    3690083   IO-APIC-level  SiS SI7012
[04:10] <Fator_Dee> teach 'im to behave
[04:10] <dooglus> I tried 28 different combinations of kernel parameters yesterday to see if I could get it to use different IRQs.  I couldn't.  :(
[04:10] <dooglus> Fator_Dee: hit laurence with a hammer?  I couldn't!
[04:14] <Fator_Dee> dooglus: do you have an usb mouse perhaps?
[04:15] <enrique> hi
[04:15] <Shinaku> Hello.
[04:15] <enrique> can somebody help me editing GRUB so that I can change the default OS to boot?
[04:16] <reka> enrique: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:16] <pfp> enrique: look for a line 'default         0', chaneg the number
[04:16] <pfp> change*
[04:17] <reka> 0 being the first listed, 1 being the next, and so on
[04:18] <enrique> no idea?
[04:18] <Seveas> enrique, reka and pfp just said it...
[04:20] <enrique> where do i look the number i need to change it to?
[04:20] <enrique> yes
[04:20] <enrique> i mean...
[04:20] <enrique> how do I know which number to change it for?
[04:20] <Fator_Dee> enrique: reka said it
[04:20] <Fator_Dee> < reka> 0 being the first listed, 1 being the next, and so on
[04:21] <Fator_Dee> you change the number to that which you want to be booted by default
[04:22] <desplesda> hi, i've just installed php4 and whenever i browse to localhost/whatever/ , which has an index.php, apache sends me the php file as a download
[04:22] <reka> enrique: see how each boot option is grouped in lines?  look at the titles.
[04:22] <desplesda> browsing to /whatever/index.php executes it normally
[04:22] <dos000> hi, i am trying to ssh into multiple boxes using ssh tunnels. the problem is since they are all mapped to localhost ssh borks thinnking it is a new server ! is there a way around this problem ?
[04:22] <desplesda> any idea what's going on?
[04:25] <caine> how to do change the default user for my internet?
[04:25] <Shinaku> O
[04:25] <phend> desplesda, in your httpd.conf file, there's a way of setting index.php files to be executed like index.html files
[04:25] <reka> dos000: you might get a better response in #linux
[04:26] <caine> last night it said that my internet was already in use by the default user and basically in order to open up any pages i would have to create a new name so i did but i dont know where to go to change the name back
[04:27] <caine> its not my computer log in its the internets
[04:27] <desplesda> phend: any idea what it is? grepping apache2.conf for php just turns up the DirectoryIndex directive
[04:27] <Einhoernchen> well is a seen bot in here?
[04:28] <phend> desplesda, the DirectoryIndex directive
[04:28] <phend> oh
[04:28] <phend> hang on
[04:28] <Einhoernchen> !seen mindspin
[04:28] <caine> oh and how do i figure out why my firefox keeps crashing when i go to certain sites?
[04:28] <reka> caine: you mean it's your browser?  it's saying something about profiles right?
[04:28] <Einhoernchen> lol
[04:28] <caine> yes! thats it reka
[04:28] <phend> desplesda, i thought that was it. hmm
[04:28] <caine> where do i go to change that stuff
[04:29] <roshlame> Synaptic does not seem to find totem-xine
[04:29] <Einhoernchen> well can anybody tell me how i've to install a *.deb file?
[04:29] <Fator_Dee> Einhoernchen: sudo dpkg -i debfile.deb
[04:29] <roshlame> Will it be possible to use the package on the debian webside?
[04:29] <Einhoernchen> Fator_Dee, with kynaptic now or ?
[04:29] <djp> is it possible to implement irda under ubuntu or will i need hardware to use it?
[04:29] <thoreauputic> roshlame: I think totem-xine is in the universe repo
[04:30] <roshlame> repo?
[04:30] <Fator_Dee> Einhoernchen: if you have a file in your harddrive you install it like that, or you can search the repository for it
[04:30] <SysFail> mine found it rosh
[04:30] <Fator_Dee> Einhoernchen: and that is a commandline command
[04:30] <thoreauputic> roshlame: and please don't mix debian packages with ubuntu ones
[04:30] <pfp> roshlame: repository
[04:30] <reka> caine: try this: type about:config in the url bar
[04:30] <[Spooky] > isnt the cdfs iso9660 ?
[04:30] <caine> ok h/o
[04:30] <SysFail> says its in backports for some reason
[04:30] <reka> caine: then in the filter, type "profile" (w/o quotes)
[04:31] <caine> ok
[04:31] <reka> caine: double click on the "managae_only_at_launch" and set it to true.
[04:31] <caine> k
[04:31] <reka> i.e. type "true" (w/o quotes)
[04:32] <reka> close and restart
[04:32] <caine> it did it on its own
[04:32] <caine> when i dbl clicked it
[04:32] <caine> restart linnux or firefow
[04:32] <roshlame> So you say I can't use it?
[04:32] <caine> *fox
[04:32] <reka> ok
[04:32] <reka> close and restart
[04:32] <SysFail> you can use it...add backports and univers to your repo list
[04:32] <caine> *linux
[04:32] <reka> firefox
[04:32] <caine> k
[04:32] <pfp> roshlame: have you added universe or backports to your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[04:33] <caine> nothing happend
[04:33] <thoreauputic> roshlame: edit your sources ( /etc/apt/sources.list) and uncomment the universe lines
[04:33] <djp> is it possible to implement irda under ubuntu or will i need hardware to use it?
[04:33] <caine> it just opened up my home page like normal
[04:33] <roshlame> No I haven't
[04:33] <roshlame> Okay, thank you.
[04:33] <thoreauputic> roshlame: then sudo apt-get update, install totem-xine
[04:33] <reka> caine: google for "firefox profiles"
[04:33] <caine> k
[04:33] <dr_willis> Hmm irda - is the infrared stuff isent it. :P how do ya do that without hardware?
[04:33] <thoreauputic> roshlame: don't add backports, by the way
[04:34] <caine> wow that was easier to find then everything else lol
[04:34] <SysFail> I haven;t had a problem with backports
[04:34] <roshlame> I probably won't because I do not know what does backport mean ;)
[04:34] <reka> caine: sorry, i use mozilla, and although they're almost identical, i haven't run into problems with the profiles.  (i noticed it usually comes up when i try to run another mozilla product at the same time)
[04:34] <thoreauputic> SysFail: many people have, believe me
[04:34] <SysFail> k
[04:35] <SysFail> I even did xchat and gaim last night
[04:35] <reka> caine: you found something?
[04:35] <caine> yeah i found something
[04:35] <caine> well im running mozilla also
[04:35] <Echelon-H> what's the command to reboot?
[04:35] <desplesda> Echelon-H: sudo reboot :)
[04:35] <thoreauputic> SysFail: the problems were/are mainly when people do dist-upgrade to Hoary from Warty
[04:35] <caine> but what i just found i think is only for windows
[04:36] <SysFail> yeah that makes more sense... I did a fresh install
[04:36] <reka> caine: well, if you're using mozilla, you just do tools->switch profile
[04:36] <thoreauputic> SysFail: but if you look at some of the versioning on backports packages.. ugly as sin
[04:37] <caine> its not there...
[04:37] <SysFail> yeah I pick and choose the ones I use... I wanted the newest xchat and gaim and stuff ...but I dont upgrade lib files and stuff like that
[04:37] <reka> caine: ok.  i'm confused.  are you using mozilla or firefox.  nb: they are *not* the same thing.
[04:38] <reka> maybe i should say mozilla-browser
[04:38] <pfp> hmm, i did dist-upgrade to hoary w/ backports...
[04:38] <caine> it says mozilla firefox at the top...
[04:38] <thoreauputic> SysFail: as with most things, it's OK for those who have an idea what they are doing
[04:38] <SysFail> very true man
[04:38] <SysFail> I checked it again...theres a version of his program in universe
[04:39] <reka> caine: then i'm not sure. sorry
[04:39] <SysFail> .9 or something...backports has 1.1 or something
[04:39] <reka> i'm not a firefox expert
[04:39] <thoreauputic> pfp: not everybody had problems, true
[04:39] <echobucket> all of the sudden I'm getting a 401 from backports.ubuntuforums.org when apt-get updating..
[04:39] <reka> SysFail: do you know how to compile from source?
[04:39] <SysFail> I get that sometimes too echo
[04:39] <caine> reka: its ok
[04:40] <SysFail> yeah reka
[04:40] <caine> reka: thanks for your help anyway
[04:40] <Subex> anyone can help me, how to install my new webcam in my ubuntu box
[04:40] <SysFail> I wish my webcam worked in linux
[04:40] <SysFail> heh
[04:40] <Shinaku> Does Ubuntu come with the SSHD running by default?
[04:40] <reka> SysFail: well, that's an alternative to possibly breaking the system with backports.  but that's just my opinion
[04:40] <thoreauputic> Shinaku: no
[04:40] <reka> caine: sure.  sorry i couldn't help more.
[04:40] <thoreauputic> Shinaku: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[04:41] <Shinaku> ok
[04:41] <Subex> so, my webcan useless in ubuntu?
[04:41] <SysFail> yeah I just compiled that gtk-engine-qt thing yesterday
[04:41] <Shinaku> so I am sat here looking at an Ubuntu box iver a webcam
[04:41] <Shinaku> but I can't actully do anything
[04:41] <echobucket> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35641
[04:41] <Subex> oh
[04:41] <echobucket> Info about backports 401 error ^^^^^^^^
[04:41] <caine> reka: its ok
[04:41] <SysFail> some work...some dont Subex
[04:41] <SysFail> mine doesnt
[04:41] <SysFail> it's some intel webcam
[04:41] <caine> reka: maybe you can still help
[04:42] <caine> reka: your using ubuntu am i right?
[04:42] <echobucket> someone should probably put that in the topic here, in case other folks ask.
[04:42] <Subex> oh. . i see
[04:42] <reka> caine: yes :-)
[04:42] <caine> reka: http://www.mozilla.org/support/firefox/profile#new
[04:42] <SysFail> wish there was a way to use windows drivers for webcams
[04:42] <Subex> thanks for help me guys
[04:43] <caine> tell me how to make that work
[04:43] <thoreauputic> echobucket: th eops don't want to encourage the use of backports :)
[04:43] <SysFail> that'd be sweet
[04:43] <thoreauputic> *the ops
[04:43] <caine> reka: look for the linux instructions in the 2nd paragraph
[04:43] <echobucket> thoreauputic, ah.
[04:43] <echobucket> thoreauputic, understandable ;)
[04:44] <reka> ok hang on, loading.  i'm only on dialup ATM and i'm downloading some codecs. :-)
[04:44] <SysFail> they still make dialup?
[04:44] <caine> reka: lol its ok
[04:44] <SysFail> heh
[04:44] <caine> sysfail: isnt it sad
[04:44] <thoreauputic> echobucket: same thing with http://ubuntuguide.org I think
[04:44] <caine> reka: no offense
[04:45] <reka> bastards
[04:45] <reka> lol
[04:45] <caine> lol
[04:45] <thoreauputic> SysFail: much of the world is still on dialup, actually
[04:45] <SysFail> hahaha
[04:45] <SysFail> i know thor...was giving him a hard time
[04:45] <thoreauputic> :)
[04:45] <SysFail> insulting his manhood for being on dialup
[04:45] <SysFail> lol
[04:45] <caine> lol
[04:46] <reka> caine: what am i supposed to be looking at? which paragraph?
[04:46] <caine> reka: Create a new profile
[04:46] <caine> reka: then where it says "On Linux or Mac..."
[04:46] <reka> ok.
[04:47] <reka> yep
[04:47] <caine> reka: im guessing i have to do this in terminal
[04:47] <caine> reka: but when i did nothing happend
[04:48] <reka> caine: if you have a shortcut on your panel you can edit the command.
[04:48] <reka> caine: are you in the forefox directory?
[04:48] <reka> *firefox
[04:48] <caine> no
[04:48] <caine> reka: idk how to get there
[04:49] <reka> caine: type this: which firefox
[04:49] <reka> then cd to that directory
[04:50] <caine> caine@Caine:~$ cd /usr/bin/firefox bash: cd: /usr/bin/firefox: Not a directory
[04:50] <caine> thats what i get when i try to cd
[04:51] <ys76> caine: Try cd /usr/bin
[04:51] <reka> caine: ah, whoops.  type : cd /usr/bin
[04:51] <reka> the 'which' command tells you the path to the executable, sorry
[04:51] <caine> oh i know
[04:51] <caine> thats how i got the path to cd
[04:51] <caine> ok now im in usr/bin
[04:52] <caine> now what
[04:52] <_kevin> there is a linux project for writing to NTFS --> http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/
[04:52] <_kevin> how can i get this on Ubuntu
[04:52] <reka> type ./firefox -profilemanager like it says
[04:52] <thoreauputic> _kevin: you can't, directly: it's still experimental
[04:52] <reka> caine: what desktop environment are you using? gnome?
[04:53] <caine> caine@Caine:/usr/bin$ /firefox -profilemanager bash: /firefox: No such file or directory
[04:53] <caine> ummm
[04:53] <caine> havnt the slightest clue
[04:53] <OConnor> co caine
[04:53] <caine> i believe do
[04:53] <lok> it's a joke ?
[04:53] <lok> is it *
[04:53] <thoreauputic> dot slash, caine
[04:54] <caine> ?
[04:54] <reka> caine: it's probably gnome.  ah, don't worry anyway b/c i'm guessing you only need to do this one-off.  i was going to suggest creating a panel shortcut
[04:54] <reka> caine: ./firefox not /firefox
[04:54] <Fator_Dee> caine: if you are in the directory where the executable is, you ned to command ./executable
[04:54] <m0r0n> How do I check if dma is enabled
[04:54] <OConnor> Macabre
[04:54] <reka> m0r0n: e.g. hdparm -d /dev/dvd
[04:54] <pfp> m0r0n: sudo hdparm /dev/hdX
[04:55] <caine> holy shit it finally worked
[04:55] <thoreauputic> actually, since it's in the $PATH anyway, all you need is `firefox -profilemanager `
[04:55] <caine> thanks guys
[04:55] <m0r0n> thanks
[04:55] <reka> caine: is this your first linux distro?
[04:55] <caine> ummm
[04:56] <caine> its my first week using linux yes if thats what your askin lol
[04:56] <caine> i started tuesday
[04:56] <caine> last tuesday
[04:56] <mof> hi all
[04:56] <nihao> acroread, it seems that it doesn't work automatically after installation. any solution?
[04:56] <caine> "Firefox cannot use the profile "default" because it is in use...."
[04:56] <caine> how do i fix that
[04:57] <_kevin> anyone heard of ReactOS
[04:57] <pfp> caine: you probably have a zombie 'fox process lying around
[04:57] <Fator_Dee> caine: delete the file ~/.mozilla/firefox/default.*/lock
[04:57] <mof> caine, killall firefox, then run new
[04:57] <Fator_Dee> yes, check that too
[04:57] <caine> umm
[04:57] <reka> nihao: what do you mean?
[04:57] <caine> one step at a time
[04:58] <mof> or like Fator_Dee
[04:58] <Fator_Dee> but if it still says that, delete that lock-file
[04:58] <_kevin> it's trying to build an open sources OS that can run .exe and windows program... can this possibly implemented into ubuntu in the future
[04:58] <caine> what comes first lol
[04:58] <Fator_Dee> caine: first killall firefox
[04:58] <pfp> caine: killall firefox-bin actually :)
[04:58] <Einhoernchen> hey guys .. i'm using kde at the moment (kubuntu) is it possible to install gnome anyhow?
[04:58] <caine> ok ty
[04:58] <Einhoernchen> strange isn't it?
[04:58] <Fator_Dee> pfp: isn't firefox enuf?
[04:58] <reka> question: how do you scroll top's output?
[04:59] <littleworm> c compiler?
[04:59] <pfp> Fator_Dee: not imho, if you look at ps auxw |grep firefox, the binary is named -bin
[04:59] <thoreauputic> Einhoernchen: I think you can install ubuntu-desktop to get gnome
[04:59] <SysFail> Einhoernchen,  yes...just use synaptic and install the metapackage
[04:59] <Einhoernchen> ok
[04:59] <mof> Einhoernchen, apt-cache search ubuntu-desktop, then apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:59] <Einhoernchen> hell
[04:59] <Einhoernchen> i want to do it with kynaptic ,)
[04:59] <tarvid> looking for recommendations on modems
[05:00] <Fator_Dee> Einhoernchen: search the same package in kynaptic
[05:00] <Einhoernchen> ok
[05:00] <Fator_Dee> Einhoernchen: and install it with the dependencies
[05:00] <Einhoernchen> yep
[05:00] <tarvid> external serials are disappearing
[05:00] <thoreauputic> Einhoernchen: just as easy to type sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop in a terminal
[05:00] <reka> littleworm: you need to install buil-essential if that's what you're asking.
[05:00] <reka> littleworm: manpages-dev is probably going to tbe helpful too.
[05:01] <reka> *build-essential
[05:01] <tarvid> is there a hardware compatibility database I can search?
[05:01] <Einhoernchen> its a bit strange isnt it to use gnome with kubuntu?
[05:01] <Einhoernchen> lol
[05:01] <caine> ok how do i delete that file
[05:01] <nihao> reka: I "sudo apt-get install acroread". but I start acroreader by clicking the menu item, reader doesn't show up.
[05:01] <caine> oh and im guessing that killall worked
[05:01] <reka> Einhoernchen: not really.  people want to use kde on ubuntu
[05:01] <Einhoernchen> lol
[05:01] <Einhoernchen> ok
[05:01] <caine> caine@Caine:/usr/bin$ killall firefox-bin caine@Caine:/usr/bin$
[05:01] <thoreauputic> Einhoernchen: not really - I use kubuntu-desktop in ubuntu sometimes - same deal :)
[05:01] <aghoo> Hi, i've got a little problem with ati driver for my laptop, fglrx load properly, xorg.conf seems to be good, i've set the lvds, but when X loads, the screen is on, but it display a dark screen, and the pc is freezed, can you help me ?
[05:03] <thoreauputic> caine: yes, if it didn't work you would get a message
[05:03] <reka> Einhoernchen: just because a distro has a particular environ as default doesn't limit you to using it.  heck i use xfce. kde or icewm sometimes.
[05:03] <caine> k
[05:03] <caine> now how do i delete ~/.mozilla/firefox/default.*/lock through terminal
[05:03] <mof> Einhoernchen, if you know all about gnome and kde, try using xfce or icewm or fluxbox - cool :-)
[05:03] <Einhoernchen> heh ok
[05:03] <thoreauputic> caine: silence is golden in *nix :)
[05:03] <Einhoernchen> >)
[05:03] <caine> ol
[05:03] <caine> *lol
[05:03] <[Spooky] > isnt it "sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop file.iso folder/folder" ?
[05:03] <pfp> caine: you dont need to, if firefox starts normally now
[05:04] <reka> nihao: tried running it from terminal?
[05:04] <rg58sma> hi where i found the w32codecs??
[05:04] <spanglesontoast> what are these libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21); however:
[05:04] <spanglesontoast>   Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13.
[05:04] <yonil> I'm having problem with java based programs (azureus), since i installed sun-j2sdk, so now i removed it and these programs still doesnt work, what can i do ??
[05:04] <Fator_Dee> caine: if it doesn't start, write "rm ~/.mozilla/firefox/default.*/lock
[05:04] <mof> rg58sma, at mplayer homepage
[05:04] <Einhoernchen> is it possible to delete kde after installing gnome?
[05:04] <reka> rg58sma: marillat repo.  see ubuntuguide's sample sources.list for the url
[05:05] <Einhoernchen> lol
[05:05] <rg58sma> no
[05:05] <Fator_Dee> caine: you can use tab-complete to find out what the default-directorys whole name is
[05:05] <Einhoernchen> no?
[05:05] <Einhoernchen> ok
[05:05] <rg58sma> the marillat
[05:05] <Einhoernchen> >)
[05:05] <yonil> Fator_Dee, btw its *default, not default.* :P
[05:05] <rg58sma> cant hacve in my sources??
[05:05] <nihao> i type the command "acroread", this is the output: /usr/bin/acroread: line 12: /usr/lib/Acrobat5/bin/acroread: no such file or directory
[05:05] <Fator_Dee> yonil: hnh?
[05:05] <rg58sma> because have trouble
[05:05] <thoreauputic> Einhoernchen: sort of - you can uninstall kdelibs and take the whole thing with it I think
[05:05] <caine> ok now how do i figure out why firefox crashes when i got to certain sites
[05:05] <mof> rg58sma, at mplayer homepage, its easy to install
[05:05] <Fator_Dee> yonil: could you elaborate the thing to me?
[05:05] <Einhoernchen> ok
[05:05] <yonil> Fator_Dee, here its ~/.mozilla/firefox/rs8t9olt.default
[05:06] <Fator_Dee> yonil: I have it in ~/.mozilla/firefox/default.1q2/ :-)
[05:06] <OConnor> Moby
[05:06] <thoreauputic> Einhoernchen: od course if you do that kiss your KDE apps goodbye
[05:06] <Einhoernchen> Eminem
[05:06] <yonil> Fator_Dee, weird =P
[05:06] <OConnor> break me heart
[05:06] <Einhoernchen> hehe TheMuso ;)
[05:06] <reka> rg58sma: then like mof said, use the mplayer codecs: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingCodecsToTotemHowTo
[05:06] <Einhoernchen> thoreauputic, ;)
[05:06] <Fator_Dee> yonil: must be wholly random thing
[05:06] <reka> http://www4.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/codecs.html
[05:06] <yonil> Anyone can help me with java thing ?
[05:06] <carniit> someone can tell me a good source for laptop sleepmode management ???
[05:06] <hans--> is there a key in ubuntu with which i can swich back to desktop while playing a game like the windows key?
[05:06] <yonil> azureus doesnt work ;_;
[05:07] <Einhoernchen> -.-
[05:07] <caine> oh hey i have another problem
[05:07] <caine> i need to get mplayer...where?
[05:07] <Fator_Dee> caine: enable universe and multiverse and search it in synaptic
[05:07] <caine> because i can hear video but cant see it
[05:07] <caine> how do i enable those?
[05:07] <hans--> hear video :P
[05:08] <Fator_Dee> caine: you have to get w32codecs from marillat or backports
[05:08] <caine> yes i can hear the audio from the videos but i cant see them
[05:08] <caine>  the picture says "no picture"
[05:08] <thoreauputic> caine: read this page >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[05:10] <thoreauputic> caine: I'd be inclined to ignore the advice there about backports though
[05:10] <algell> I have just installed Ubuntu, and for some reason I can't use any resolusion but 640x480. How do I fix this problem?
[05:10] <flankk> 'flankk@louise:~$ acpi -t'
[05:10] <flankk> 'Thermal 1: passive active[0] , 4294967040.0 degrees C'
[05:10] <flankk> should i be worried?
[05:11] <christian> hi all
[05:11] <spanglesontoast> how can I force something to install without checking for dependencies
[05:11] <omnis> by installing from source perhaps
[05:11] <fix> list
[05:11] <omnis> meaning /configure /make
[05:11] <christian> how can i start my samba instance? There's no /etc/init.d/samba
[05:11] <spanglesontoast> I mean't package
[05:12] <rg58sma> where i found the marillat for sources.list??
[05:12] <mof> algell, you have to edit the xorg.conf
[05:12] <Fikrann> flankk, not really, it's just broken bios.
[05:12] <Plnt> spanglesontoast: dpkg --ignore-depends= ...
[05:12] <danba> omnis, how about with an apt-get type thing?
[05:12] <Plnt> spanglesontoast: or maybe you can force it
[05:12] <Plnt> spanglesontoast: by --force
[05:12] <omnis> there you go
[05:12] <Plnt> spanglesontoast: but it isn't a good thing to do this..
[05:13] <thoreauputic> --force is  *really * bad idea
[05:13] <spanglesontoast> it's only openttd
[05:13] <danba> spanglesontoast: sudo aptitude -f package name, try that. if you have to.
[05:13] <thoreauputic> how to break the package management system in one go...
[05:13] <omnis> it won't run properly, or even at all without the right dependencies
[05:13] <danba> spanglesontoast: from repositories, openttd?
[05:13] <spanglesontoast> doesn't work
[05:14] <Plnt> spanglesontoast: you can download openttd binary from openttd.org .. maybe this will be cleaner solution than forcing dependency problems
[05:14] <Plnt> spanglesontoast: but you should have the packages installes .. otherwise it will not work
[05:14] <spanglesontoast> I downloaded the .deb
[05:14] <Plnt> spanglesontoast: what are the packages? some SDL libraries?
[05:14] <spanglesontoast> and it moans about it
[05:14] <reka> rg58sma: deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat testing main
[05:15] <spanglesontoast> openttd_0.4.0.1-2_i386.deb
[05:15] <algell> mof: where do I find xorg.conf?
[05:15] <thoreauputic> algell: /etc/X11
[05:16] <mof> algell, any experiences with linux ?
[05:17] <danba> spanglesontoast: read http://wiki.openttd.com/index.php/FAQ_installation ?
[05:17] <reka> algell: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-21984.html
[05:17] <IIIEars_> thoreuputic - thor! thor! thor! - ;)
[05:17] <algell> mof: some experience. not a lot
[05:18] <mof> reka algell: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-21984.html, first try this
[05:18] <yonil> help me with java ;_;
[05:18] <rg58sma> i have problem
[05:18] <ccfiel> hello pll..
[05:19] <Cristobal> hi, anyone know where to get FREE domain hosting?? I have a domain and need hosting
[05:19] <reka> yonil: installing?
[05:19] <mof> section "SCREEN", subsection "DISPLAY"
[05:19] <algell> mof reka: ok I try
[05:20] <spanglesontoast> how do I select a package to install in aptitude?
[05:20] <yonil> reka, dont know. it used to work, now i downloaded sun-j2sdk and program using java such as azureus get stuck
[05:20] <danba> Cristobal: yes, just a sec, please dont leave right away:)
[05:20] <mof> algell, with your resolutions
[05:20] <Shuddert1ix> spanglesontoast: man aptitude
[05:20] <ccfiel> when installing ubuntu "The Hoary Hedgehog Release" then after 6 months a new release has come out...do i need to re install my os? or just update it?
[05:20] <danba> Cristobal: show me your page...:)
[05:20] <Cristobal> ok danba thx
[05:20] <reka> algell: it's either (1) higher resolutions aren't listed in the section mof said or (2) your refresh rate isn't set right.  try the generic rates listed in a post in that same thread
[05:20] <Cristobal> its not done   well  its partially done im working on it
[05:21] <Shuddert1ix> spanglesontoast: actually, that doesn't say anything about it, let me check
[05:21] <Fator_Dee> ccfiel: you can update it with just a few commands
[05:21] <danba> ok, well, hopefully it is for real:) http://hosting.cybermagellan.com .
[05:21] <yonil> can someone run "java -version" and show me the first line result ?
[05:21] <Cristobal> yes it is for real, it is for a a shop that sells leather clothing
[05:21] <Fator_Dee> yonil: java version "1.5.0_02"
[05:21] <ccfiel> Fator_Dee: cool ..so no need to re install my system again? to have the new release.. :)
[05:21] <IIIEars_> www.findmyhosting.com/
[05:21] <Fator_Dee> ccfiel: no, no need to reinstall
[05:21] <danba> java version "1.4.2"
[05:21] <reka> yonil: correct me if i'm wrong, but don't you need the jre instead of the sdk?
[05:22] <Cristobal> do you own that server danba
[05:22] <Fator_Dee> ccfiel: I upgraded my system from warty to hoary
[05:22] <danba> gcj-4.0 (GCC) 4.0.0 20050301 (prerelease) (Debian 4.0-0pre6ubuntu7) second line :-p
[05:22] <Shuddert1ix> spanglesontoast: there is a nice little blue bar at the top of the screen.. says to use g to install/download/remove
[05:22] <danba> Cristobal: no, cybermagellan does, though.
[05:22] <ccfiel> Fator_Dee: cool.. using also apt get?
[05:22] <danba> there is a contact link, I am sure
[05:22] <Cristobal> its neat... i wonder if they will let me stay
[05:22] <Fator_Dee> ccfiel: yes, just change the repositories to point to the new release and then a dist-upgrade
[05:23] <spanglesontoast> yea
[05:23] <spanglesontoast> I pressed g
[05:23] <spanglesontoast> nothing happened
[05:23] <Cristobal> danba do you know if they have pop3 email
[05:23] <danba> spanglesontoast: nono, f1 is the help.
[05:23] <ccfiel> Fator_Dee: how many months have you used ubuntu?
[05:23] <IIIEars_> One-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:23] <danba> Cristobal: no sorry, I dont, look into it, I hjave not used it yet.
[05:23] <Cristobal> ok thx
[05:24] <danba> spanglesontoast: if you do sudo aptitude install packageName then iut installs
[05:24] <Fator_Dee> ccfiel: I started using warty after about a week or two after it was officially released, so ~7 months
[05:24] <danba> use synaptic gfor gui, though, aptitude for comman line
[05:24] <spanglesontoast> ok done
[05:25] <reka> danba: noob question: difference b/n aptitude and apt-get?
[05:25] <ccfiel> Fator_Dee: ok..how was it..? no complecation with your hardware? :)
[05:25] <Fator_Dee> ccfiel: everything worked out of the box for me :-)
[05:25] <danba> well, not so noob to me:) well apt-get is a mi9d level tool, aptitude a high level, the higher we get, the more a person should be using it.
[05:26] <danba> aptitude should be used by you, apt-get by aptitude, somewhat.
[05:26] <danba> spanglesontoast: done what?
[05:26] <thoreauputic> reka: aptitude deals with dependencies better, partcularly when you uninstall something
[05:26] <reka> ah.  so why are we giving out instructions to use apt-get and not aptitude
[05:26] <spanglesontoast> installed
[05:26] <spanglesontoast> it works
[05:27] <reka> well, *me* giving out instructions.
[05:27] <Avinoam> Hello everyone
[05:27] <IIIEars_> "" everything worked all usb devices too. - some tweaking needed for wireless
[05:27] <thoreauputic> reka: hmm - seems to be an ingrained habit for ex-debianites :)
[05:27] <thoreauputic> like me
[05:27] <Avinoam> Anyone have some time to help a newbie?
[05:28] <thoreauputic> Avinoam: just ask
[05:28] <IIIEars_> Hello Avinoam :)
[05:28] <thoreauputic> Avinoam: if someone can help thay will
[05:28] <reka> ok.  it was just this is the 1st time i've seen an aptitude command stated over apt-get.
[05:28] <IIIEars_> Welcome to Ubuntu.
[05:28] <m0r0n> I often get the message "Could not open vfs file" when attempting to play a stream from shoutcast. Any idea how to fix it?
[05:28] <Avinoam> Basically, I want to install Ubuntu on a Dell Inspiron 1150, with an Intel i810 card
[05:28] <Avinoam> with other distribs i've had problems with X display
[05:28] <andreas_> hello, i've got a question ;). i want to install debian on my pc; but debian does not have the adm8211 driver as a module afaik...;therefore i thought that maybe i could use the one that comes with ubuntu. so my question is wether i will run into problems with this approach
[05:28] <danba> spanglesontoast: nice...
[05:29] <ccfiel> Fator_Dee: well thanks...bye..
[05:29] <ccfiel> bye ppl..thanks!
[05:29] <hans--> anybody know how to switch back to desktop while playing a game?
[05:29] <thoreauputic> andreas_: try the live CD and see if it works
[05:29] <Avinoam> And I noticed that the i810 isn't listed in supported hardware
[05:29] <andreas_> you mean knoppix ?
[05:29] <Avinoam> I had it working with Knoppix, and then one day it stopped working
[05:30] <Avinoam> Andreas, Ubuntu has their own livecd
[05:30] <thoreauputic> andreas_: sorry, I misunderstood you - you are installing Debian?
[05:30] <andreas_> maybe i was not clear. i have ubuntu, want to erase it,but want to keep the driver
[05:30] <reka> hans--: tried alt+tab? ctrl+esc? ctrl+alt+d?
[05:30] <IIIEars_> Avinoam - we need more info on your machine.        - had some personal experience with the i810 - bit rocky no GL acceleration still fine for everything but gaming.
[05:30] <Shuddert1ix> Haha! This is the first time i've had to use konqueror over nautilus/epiphany/firefox :D
[05:30] <andreas_> yes :)
[05:30] <thoreauputic> andreas_: the drivers are part of the kernel config
[05:31] <Avinoam> III i'm on a Celeron 2600, 256 RAM, USB cable modem (unfortunately), LCD screen
[05:31] <hans--> thx lets try it
[05:31] <Fator_Dee> hans--: and maybe ctrl+alt+arrows, and atl+enter
[05:31] <Fator_Dee> *alt+enter
[05:31] <thoreauputic> andreas_: so what you need is a kernel for debian that includes the modules you want
[05:31] <andreas_> so they are in the kernel? i found a bug that states that the driver should not be in there,because it was not clean enough, or something like that
[05:31] <Avinoam> IIIEars any other info needed?
[05:32] <Avinoam> Partition is already ready
[05:32] <andreas_> yes,
[05:32] <IIIEars_> I am very new to linux 5th week - but someone here knows the answer.
[05:32] <andreas_> and i thought that i could use the ubuntu module for debian :)
[05:32] <thoreauputic> andreas_: I wouldn't know about the bug: but modules are kernel-dependent, not distro dependent
[05:33] <IIIEars_> Avinoam - Did the Live CD work okay?
[05:33] <Avinoam> Is the installer good? I tried the debian installer and it is quite complicated
[05:33] <thoreauputic> andreas_: why are you erasing Ubuntu? It's *very* close to debian anyway
[05:33] <andreas_> bug #261684
[05:33] <danba> IIIEars_: the model was there:-p
[05:33] <Avinoam> IIIEars the Knoppix livecd worked fine
[05:33] <andreas_> just looking around
[05:34] <andreas_> recently tried slackware and suse way back
[05:34] <d0z> Hello. I'm experiencing some problem with my Inprocomm IPN 2220 wifi card. I use ndiswrapper and everythin is fine in dmesg. But when I try to configure it with iwconfig it won't take my conf. Neither will it change essid or channel.
[05:34] <thoreauputic> andreas_: just stay with Ubuntu if it works for you - you can do anything on Ubuntu you can do with Debian
[05:34] <andreas_> i want to good overview before i "settle down" with a distro
[05:34] <Avinoam> Is Ubuntu easier to use than debian?
[05:34] <andreas_> -to +a
[05:35] <d0z> I've had this card up and running under debian but not ubuntu. :(
[05:35] <glassor> hi all, i installed ubuntu and xp on my sata drive, i added another sata drive that i installed server 2003, when i installed the server 2003 the first drive was not connected, what do i need to write in the "menu.lst" in the grub folder so i could do boot with server 2003 to?
[05:35] <thoreauputic> andreas_: I have some Debian experience, and really, there isn't much difference except that Ubuntu tends to work better "out of the box"
[05:35] <andreas_> so...where is all the fun then :)
[05:35] <danba> doz, what have you tried so far?
[05:35] <reka> Avinoam: i'll tell you one thing. #debian is not as newbie friendly as this channel
[05:36] <thoreauputic> Avinoam: a bit easier in a number of ways, yes
[05:36] <danba> Avinoam: hey, i810 is the graphics card you have in the computer?
[05:36] <IIIEars_> Avinoam - YES - Synaptic/apptitude pkg managers are a 3 click installer dream so smooth it makes XP envious. :)
[05:36] <Avinoam> danba yes
[05:36] <Avinoam> it's a dell laptop
[05:37] <Avinoam> Also, i wanted to know if Ubuntu has the correct USB network drivers so that a can use my cable modem
[05:37] <danba> glassor: not sure you can do that...
[05:37] <rg58sma> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat testing main
[05:37] <rg58sma>  works correctly?????
[05:37] <glassor> why not?
[05:37] <LoneElf> Anyone here use a radeon card with 2 monitors?
[05:37] <danba> Avinoam: yesm, I know it is that, you said that in the same sentence... http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsDell lists a different card inside a 1150...
[05:38] <Avinoam> really? lemme check...
[05:38] <reka> rg58sma: did you apt-get update after you added it?
[05:38] <danba> glassor: not sure if the mbr can boot of a second drive, let me find you a link.
[05:38] <glassor> ok 10x
[05:38] <Avinoam> Danba, when i ran knoppix under xmodule=i810, it worked, without that, it didn't
[05:38] <danba> glassor: just a sec  tho.
[05:38] <rg58sma> i didn added because previuosly have troble
[05:38] <d0z> danba: I started it up with ndiswrapper. The first thing that strikes me when running iwconfig is that there is no encryption row. So I try to change essid but it won't change, tried changing channel it then fails. This is printed in dmesg: ndiswrapper (iw_set_freq:282): setting configuration failed (C0010015). Thats about it.
[05:39] <IIIEars_> Avinoam - These link. will have more neat tips and tricks than you can shake a stick at. FAQ http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UserDocumentation http://ubuntuguide.org/  Display http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:39] <danba> LoneElf: www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowTo mentions it, that is about how much I know about that.
[05:39] <thoreauputic> rg58sma: use it to get codecs, then get rid of it or comment it out
[05:39] <LoneElf> for the life of me i cant get out of clone mode using fireglcontrol. It has really been giving me a hard time.... actually i guess a more accurate question would be, has anyone with a radeon gotten thier comp to run with dial screen?
[05:39] <LoneElf> danba: yeah, ive been there, thanks =) but it doesnt seem to help my problem
[05:39] <rg58sma> ok
[05:40] <Avinoam> hmm there it says i845
[05:40] <danba> LoneElf: state it:)
[05:40] <d0z> danba: Do you have a similar card?
[05:40] <reka> "LoneElf for the life of me i cant get out of clone mode using fireglcontrol"
[05:40] <danba> d0z: did you read the wiki for wifi?
[05:40] <danba> no, I dont use wireless.
[05:40] <danba> with linux, anyhow.
[05:40] <Avinoam> 82852?
[05:40] <d0z> Yes, and I have used it before on debian.
[05:40] <mcsf> hi, did anyone have problems upgrading linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 to 2.6.10-34.1 ? i always get an error about ndiswrapper
[05:41] <danba> I mean the ubuntu wiki for wifi.
[05:41] <LoneElf> danba: has been stated, as reka pointed out.
[05:41] <d0z> danba: Yes i've read one ubuntu wiki page about wifi. Don't know if there are more than one.
[05:42] <Avinoam> Hmm maybe i should be upgrading BIOS?
[05:42] <danba> nono, I meant, state what you tried in your question, so I dont have to go over the basics...
[05:42] <reka> LoneElf: searched ubuntuforums.org yet?
[05:42] <rg58sma> Err ftp://ftp.nerim.net testing Release.gpg
[05:42] <rg58sma>   La conexin expir [IP: 62.4.17.14 21] 
[05:42] <d0z> danba: The funny thing is that it does'nt matter what command I try to use with iwconfig it gets totally ignored by the card.
[05:42] <danba> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FrontPage/searchwiki?expr=wifi&submit=Search that gives all the results, d0z.
[05:43] <roshlame> how do I make Totem to use esd for sound output?
[05:43] <danba> if you state that you tried the newbie things in your questions, ppl like me will not give you advice.
[05:43] <danba> cause we'lll know you tried what we could think of, thus leaving the queastion on the screen longer for ppl that know what they are talking about.
[05:44] <LoneElf> danba: i installed all fo the fglrx stuff from the ubuntu servers, went into my xorg.conf file and set driver to fglrx and restarted my compter (and my x server before that) and i used fireglcontrol to tell configure the comp to run in extended mode rather than clonemode... to no avail, when i reopen the program it still says its in clone mode.
[05:44] <rg58sma> Err ftp://ftp.nerim.net testing Release.gpg
[05:44] <rg58sma>   La conexin expir [IP: 62.4.17.14 21] 
[05:44] <danba> rg58sma: is that the whole error message?
[05:44] <andreas_> bye
[05:45] <danba> please post only once, rg58sma.
[05:45] <rg58sma> ok
[05:45] <danba> or at least only once in one 640x480 screenfull
[05:45] <rg58sma> have a problem with Err ftp://ftp.nerim.net testing Release.gpg
[05:45] <danba> yes, I know, I saw it 3 times by now:) well, is that the whole error, those two lines, nothing else?
[05:46] <mof> rg58sma, sometimes the marillat server is unusable
[05:46] <danba> rg58sma: ok, well, Ill have a pastebin for you with what I did to fix it in a few minutes.
[05:47] <lillis> http://pastebin.com/292725 <- Whenever i try to apt-get I get that error
[05:47] <lillis> oh damn it's in swedish, sorry
[05:49] <danba> lillis: your sources.list is likely cluttered with outside sources, please paste that file to pastebin.com
[05:49] <reka> roshlame: what particular problem are you having?
[05:49] <lillis> danba: sec
[05:49] <mcsf> lillis, you must be root to use apt-get
[05:50] <danba> rg58sma: please post your sources.list to pastebin.com, with the exact error you get after you sudo apt-get update
[05:50] <mcsf> so here you'd use: " sudo apt-get install term " (correct me, i'm a newbie as well)
[05:50] <Seveas> lillis, try LC_MESSAGES=POSIX sudo apt-get install (etc...)
[05:50] <danba> rg58sma: if any, that is.
[05:50] <lillis> http://pastebin.com/292728
[05:50] <danba> mcsf: yes, you are wrongm, look at the next line
[05:50] <Seveas> rofl, lillis you have no main!
[05:51] <lillis> oh.
[05:51] <lillis> I accidently deleted "main"
[05:51] <lillis> doho
[05:51] <Seveas> lillis add main and restricted
[05:51] <danba> lillis: maybe comment out the cd, too.
[05:51] <Seveas> yeah, that's a good idea :)
[05:51] <danba> Seveas: you cant type while rofl...
[05:51] <reka> "doho".  is that what homer sounds like in swedish? :-)
[05:51] <Seveas> danba, i can
[05:51] <lillis> lol reka
[05:51] <Seveas> laptop on the floor ;)
[05:52] <Seveas> no reka, that would be dh
[05:52] <Seveas> :)
[05:52] <lillis> so how should it look?
[05:52] <lillis> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main universe multiverse
[05:52] <lillis> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary restricted universe multiverse
[05:52] <lillis> ?
[05:52] <Seveas> no
[05:52] <danba> guys with the hardware issues above, go ahead and check out the forums, ubuntuforums.org and stick around, maybe someone will know how to fix it.
[05:52] <Seveas>  deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricteduniverse multiverse
[05:52] <jnoreiko> hi. probably a daft question, but what do I use for ftp on ubuntu?
[05:52] <Seveas> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricteduniverse multiverse
[05:53] <lillis> ah
[05:53] <reka> jnoreiko: easy route: gftp
[05:53] <Seveas> with a space between restricted and universe
[05:53] <roshlame> reka, i have just installed totem-xine, when I play an AVI file it does not produce any sounds
[05:53] <jnoreiko> let me guess... is that command line?
[05:53] <reka> jnoreiko: GUI based.
[05:53] <danba> Seveas: why not a link to www.mts.net/~danb/sources.list :)
[05:53] <jnoreiko> woo! :)
[05:53] <Seveas> jnoreiko, places->connect to server
[05:53] <rg58sma> http://pastebin.com/292730
[05:53] <danba> rg58sma: acknowledged.
[05:53] <reka> roshlame: are you having similar problems with mp3s etc.?
[05:53] <reka> roshlame: also, are you running gnome?
[05:54] <jnoreiko> is gftp included in warty? I don't see it in the menus
[05:54] <roshlame> i run gnome
[05:54] <lillis> there
[05:54] <lillis> thank you Seveas :)
[05:54] <rg58sma> http://pastebin.com/292730
[05:54] <reka> jnoreiko: no.  you need to get it from the repos
[05:54] <roshlame> reka, i can play mp3 files with xmms...
[05:54] <lotusleaf> wget <3
[05:54] <Seveas> jnoreiko, you need to sudo apt-get install it :)
[05:54] <mof> bbl
[05:55] <reka> lotusleaf: too complex for me. :-)  i like how it can download for example all jpegs on a site.
[05:55] <reka> *though
[05:55] <lotusleaf> reka, gwget
[05:55] <Seveas> wget -p, wget -R
[05:55] <danba> rg58sma: lines 79 and 80 are because you have synaptic open, maybe you knew that.
[05:56] <rg58sma> and lines 77 y 78
[05:56] <jnoreiko> fantastic! thanks :)
[05:56] <danba> rg58sma: why is the URL posted twice again?
[05:56] <reka> :-D
[05:56] <reka> thanks lotusleaf
[05:57] <lotusleaf> reka, yw
[05:57] <reka> jnoreiko: np
[05:58] <jnoreiko> dang... installing new apps is so much easier on linux than any other OS :)
[05:59] <danba> rg58sma: in the same screen, and my reply that I got it is right after your first post...please dont do that.
[05:59] <mcquaid> hello, i'm looking into making my own debs, what package provides dh_make?
[05:59] <underdog> mcquaid: packages.debian.org
[05:59] <Seveas> mcquaid, packages.ubuntu.com
[05:59] <mcquaid> eh?
[05:59] <underdog> thei're quite the same, so you can search for package contents there and then apt-get in ubuntu
[05:59] <Seveas> :)
[05:59] <mcquaid> ok
[05:59] <underdog> Seveas: bhaa :P
[05:59] <bob2> mcquaid: www.debian.org/devel/, new maintainer's guide
[06:00] <Seveas> aptitude install maint-guide :)
[06:00] <I_prefer_VectorL> anyone know stuff about the Live cd? im using the Hoary Hedgehog live cd now....
[06:00] <teebones>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY help
[06:00] <danba> rg58sma: i dont know, it worked fine here, you can try changing your IP address, by sudo ifdown eth0 &&sudo ifup eth0 it will make you lose connection to the internet for a second.
[06:01] <JDahl> mcquaid, as always: apt-cache search search dh_make
[06:01] <rg58sma> y have a wlan0
[06:01] <danba> rg58sma: ok, replace that instead of eth0, good catch.
[06:02] <JDahl> mcquaid, it might also be a good idea to grap an official package with apt-get source to see their debian/rules + debian/control files for inspiration
[06:02] <danba> d0z: still there?
[06:02] <danba> ivoks, have some time for a wifi issue?
[06:03] <I_prefer_VectorL> Can Ubuntu Live actually mount my harddisk or am I just not supposed to do this with it?
[06:03] <rg58sma> sudo ifdown wlan0 &&sudo ifup wlan0????
[06:03] <reka> roshlame: http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly worked for me.  fixed all sound problems.
[06:03] <danba> rg58sma: try, yes
[06:03] <ivoks> danba: in a minute
[06:03] <reka> I_prefer_VectorL: it mounted mine automatically.
[06:04] <rg58sma> ready and now??
[06:04] <I_prefer_VectorL> hmmzzz...
[06:04] <I_prefer_VectorL> my /mnt is empty...
[06:04] <danba> rg58sma: please do ifconfig in a terminal, and post that to pastebin.com
[06:04] <XandriX> ok wtf ive bin waiting since april to get my ubuntu cds still no confirmation in my email
[06:06] <reka> XandriX: what country?
[06:06] <Fator_Dee> dooglus: are you there?
[06:06] <I_prefer_VectorL> Knoppix mounted it automatically too.... and was much faster
[06:06] <XandriX> canada
[06:06] <danba> I_prefer_VectorL: yes, it should mount your hard disk in read only.
[06:06] <i3dmaster> anyone knows how to adjust the gnome-terminal's shortcut keys?
[06:06] <XandriX> reka, canada
[06:06] <roshlame> reka, thank you
[06:07] <reka> XandriX: : i don't know what the average is. i was told mine would take 10 weeks. but i'm in aus.
[06:07] <I_prefer_VectorL> oh.. wait a sec.... perhaps it's a scsi
[06:07] <reka> roshlame: np
[06:07] <I_prefer_VectorL> But I think not
[06:07] <Johnnyfav> is there an upgrade for Libxrender?
[06:07] <danba> i3dmaster: oh come on:) edit, keyboard shortcuts....
[06:07] <teebones> .
[06:08] <i3dmaster> danba: where and how? I am getting a conflict on one of the vi command
[06:08] <Avinoam> 55 percent downloaded yeay
[06:08] <reka> Johnnyfav: iirc, only security updates will be available in the hoary repos.
[06:08] <I_prefer_VectorL> well.... guess I'd better reboot and check it out...
[06:08] <danba> i3dmaster: open a gnome terminal, CLick on the Edit menu, click on the keyboard Shortcuts option, and set it up.
[06:09] <comcor> anyone have any suggestions about how to get around this twm /etc/alternatives issue on upgrades?
[06:09] <Johnnyfav> so what do I do to upgrade the libxrender?
[06:09] <Avinoam> By the way as far as I know, the bittorrent tracker is up because i'm using it right now
[06:10] <i3dmaster> danba: ok are you talking about gnome-terminal? I am only having Edit current profile and on the tabs of profile, I did not see keyboard shortcuts...
[06:10] <Avinoam> Anyone here have any experience with Ubuntu and USB cable modems?
[06:10] <toran> AIE!
[06:10] <toran> those suck -_-
[06:10] <toran> go ethernet, man
[06:11] <Avinoam> i know i know
[06:11] <Avinoam> i need to get the right cable
[06:11] <i3dmaster> danba: ok sorry, its on the menu.
[06:11] <toran> hmm... I've no experience with them :(
[06:11] <i3dmaster> danba: I did not use menu usually. Thanks man
[06:11] <toran> but I can definately say, ethernet would most likely work, and it would be way faster too
[06:11] <Cho7> afx de salon de koi ausi
[06:11] <Cho7> -ChanServ- [#mandrivafr]  Bienvenue sur #mandrivafr, anciennement #mandrakefr
[06:11] <Cho7> xulin on est pas a roland garros
[06:11] <Cho7> xulin c'est #ubuntu-fr pas #rallandgarros
[06:11] <Cho7> OConnor lol
[06:11] <Cho7> OConnor merci
[06:11] <Cho7> afx xulin lol ben ou je sais bien
[06:11] <Cho7> afx ATP-get
[06:11] <mof> Avinoam, look at 'tail -f /var/log/messages' when you connect modem
[06:12] <Avinoam> i dunno about way faster
[06:12] <Avinoam> i was getting pretty decent speeds yesterday
[06:12] <IcemanV9> is it possible to use 'terminal server client' to view the desktop on the winxp box???
[06:12] <Avinoam> on knoppix
[06:12] <danba> i3dmaster: hey, glad you worked that out with yourself, cause I was thinking, well, I told him exactly where....
[06:12] <mof> Avinoam, you on knoppix ?
[06:12] <Avinoam> mof i was on knoppix yesterday till i screwed something up
[06:12] <Avinoam> but i want a real install
[06:13] <reka> i don't know french.  did we just get spammed by Cho7?
[06:13] <mof> Avinoam, look at 'tail -f /var/log/messages' when you connect modem
[06:13] <danba> Avinoam: what cable modem model?
[06:13] <OConnor> * Stan22 is now known as Stan22[oqp] 
[06:13] <OConnor> * kix (JavaUser@244-67.242.81.adsl.skynet.be) has joined #ubuntu-fr
[06:13] <Fator_Dee> reka: seems like it
[06:13] <OConnor> * afx (~a@lns-vlq-39f-81-56-137-48.adsl.proxad.net) has joined #ubuntu-fr
[06:13] <mof> watch the output
[06:13] <OConnor> afx en effet avec les lettre dans le bon ordre a marche bcp mieu ':)
[06:13] <OConnor> afx par contre c t dj install 0maj 0up's 0 install
[06:13] <OConnor> afx dc g pas non plus f nawak av que a plante
[06:13] <i3dmaster> danba: ya, sorry about that. looks like when you disable the menu, the right click did not show it anymore
[06:13] <OConnor> kix Bjr , je suis actuelement sous windows ... mais c
[06:14] <Avinoam> danba it's a terayon
[06:14] <Fator_Dee> and it seems OConnor and Cho7 are the same
[06:14] <reka> Fator_Dee: bah, where are the ops today?
[06:14] <danba> no, no, dont be sorry, glad it worked, you are welcome.
[06:14] <Fator_Dee> bob2? Amaranth?
[06:14] <danba> reka, Fator_Dee, we did not get spammed, he pasted to the wrong channel part of his conversation
[06:14] <Fator_Dee> :-o
[06:14] <Amaranth> Fator_Dee: What's up?
[06:14] <Anubis> probably should not hold my breathe for an updated nicotine uh?
[06:14] <danba> Avinoam: well, doesnt that have an ethernet port as well?
[06:15] <darkstego> How does one switch to console in ubuntu... Ctrl+alt+F1 doesn't seem to work
[06:15] <Fator_Dee> Amaranth: might be just a misunderstanding
[06:15] <Avinoam> danba it does but i don't have a cable, i will get one eventually
[06:15] <thoreauputic> dark: it should
[06:15] <Avinoam> dark F1 is your console
[06:15] <Avinoam> F2 would be a new one
[06:16] <reka> Amaranth: we thought we were just spammed.
[06:16] <danba> Avinoam: yes, much easier to get it working, it is called cat5 cable with rj45 \jacks, or popularly jsut an "ethernet" cable...at any store, like office depot, whatever.
[06:16] <darkstego> so its just ctrl+alt+f1?
[06:16] <Avinoam> danba i'm in israel and i don't have a car
[06:16] <Avinoam> ctrl alt f2
[06:16] <Avinoam> to switch
[06:16] <danba> darkstego: are you on an apple?
[06:16] <darkstego> no
[06:16] <darkstego> is there a PPC ubuntu?
[06:16] <reka> yep
[06:17] <darkstego> interesting
[06:17] <darkstego> hmmm
[06:17] <toresbe> What GCC does Ubuntu hoary and/or warty ship with?
[06:17] <darkstego> something is up
[06:17] <thoreauputic> darkstego: should work fine , unless you are not using gdm and F1 is where you started X
[06:17] <reka> toresbe: gcc (GCC) 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-8ubuntu2)
[06:17] <toresbe> reka: is that Warty or Hoary?
[06:17] <danba> toresbe: 3.4 I think, not positive.
[06:17] <darkstego> neither f1 nor anything else works
[06:17] <reka> hoary
[06:17] <caine> hey how do i delte all of my history
[06:17] <toresbe> reka: thanks
[06:17] <mof> gcc -v
[06:17] <danba> darkstego: do you have a fn key on the keyboard?
[06:18] <darkstego> no
[06:18] <caine> i know how to delete the browser history, cookies, cache, etc
[06:18] <Avinoam> danba i know what cable i need
[06:18] <Avinoam> i'm a newbie to linux not to computers
[06:18] <reka> toresbe: i think there's a more recent one in the repos.  but that's what i got from the build-essential package
[06:18] <idle-> caine: you mean .bash_history ?
[06:18] <caine> idk
[06:18] <caine> i remember windows kept a log history of like sites you go to and shit and it was so big that i had to delete it
[06:19] <caine> and im guessing linux has it too
[06:19] <mindspin> wrong guesss ?
[06:19] <Fator_Dee> you can delete it from firefoxes preferences
[06:19] <idle-> it should be on guide
[06:19] <caine> factor: i already know about that
[06:19] <thoreauputic> caine: I think logrotate takes care of that - and firefox has a default history setting of 9 days
[06:19] <mindspin> are youtalking about "temporary Internet Files"?
[06:20] <caine> but im not talking about the browser history only
[06:20] <caine> im talking about all the history
[06:20] <Gerrath> I'm trying to get a good understanding of devices in Linux (Ubuntu).  Ubuntu uses devfs correct?
[06:20] <caine> what files youve opened and all that gr8 stuff
[06:20] <Fator_Dee> caine: but they are just plain textfiles, it would take a long time before they took up a lot of scace
[06:20] <Avinoam> what number of KB signifies 64MB?
[06:20] <Fator_Dee> *space
[06:20] <fabs> Hello All
[06:20] <thakat> Hello,  I am a recovering windows user.  My last windows encounter was just days ago.  Just dl'd America's Army and have no idea how to install it.  Any ideas?
[06:20] <caine> factor: beleive me its not the space im worried about ok
[06:21] <Echelon-H> hi there, is there no quicktime plugin for firefox under linux?
[06:21] <caine> echelon-h: yes there is
[06:21] <danba> Echelon-H: correct.
[06:21] <fabs> Guys, why do I receive this error in my webbrowser when I try to load a page with Flash content: The plugin initialization failed
[06:21] <Fator_Dee> caine: you worried that someone will hack into your account :-p
[06:21] <ivoks> who called ivoks? :)
[06:21] <reka> caine: lol. something to hide?
[06:21] <caine> factor: no im not worried about that
[06:21] <danba> ivoks, I did.
[06:21] <caine> my parents are too fuckin nosy
[06:21] <caine> sry about the laung
[06:21] <caine> i forgot
[06:21] <Fator_Dee> caine: just lock the screen
[06:21] <danba> just a sec, ivoks.
[06:21] <ivoks> danba: state your rank, solidare :)
[06:22] <reka> Echelon-H: mplayer plugin takes care of that i think
[06:22] <mindspin> and they are linux experts?
[06:22] <mindspin> cool parents
[06:22] <danba> soldier:-p
[06:22] <caine> oh yes very cool lemme tell ya
[06:22] <caine> some how they know all my passwords no matter what
[06:22] <Avinoam> i hope that the installer is wicked easy
[06:22] <ivoks> damn... english
[06:22] <mindspin> hahah
[06:22] <mindspin> to simple
[06:22] <Fator_Dee> caine: well, change to a new one
[06:22] <danba> I know...youre croatian...
[06:22] <mindspin> maybe
[06:22] <mindspin> social engineering ;-)
[06:22] <caine> factor: been there..done that
[06:22] <mof> caine, john the ripper
[06:23] <Fator_Dee> mof: but it would take a while to crack a password :-p
[06:23] <danba> ivoks, I dont need help myself, I need you to help this one guy, trying to get a hold of him,
[06:23] <fabs> Guys, anyone could help with flash probs here?
[06:23] <Fator_Dee> if it was proper
[06:23] <ivoks> danba: :)
[06:23] <Shuddert2ix> You'd figure that my clone would die..
[06:23] <toinou> hello
[06:23] <Shinaku> one more problem
[06:23] <Echelon-H> will mozzila-mplayer work with firefox?
[06:23] <ArthurSensei> is there an equivalent to debian testing/unstable in ubuntu
[06:23] <danba> fabs sudo aptitude install flashplayer-mozilla
[06:23] <mindspin> minimum 7 digits, numbers , upper and lowercase  that will help
[06:23] <Avinoam> the debian installer is a pain in the anus
[06:23] <reka> Echelon-H: yes
[06:23] <mof> Fackamato, just run jtr on many machines
[06:23] <caine> i once had a password that was "13467919738246"
[06:23] <caine> and they knew that one too
[06:24] <mof> Fator_Dee, , just run jtr on many machines
[06:24] <Fator_Dee> mof: I noticed
[06:24] <fabs> danba, thanks but I think I got it, but it still shows me that silly error on the bottom of the browser...
[06:24] <mindspin> its only numbers no prob for pwcracking progs
[06:24] <reka> caine: you didn't check the save passwrod box did you? ;-)
[06:24] <Fator_Dee> mof: but still, it would take a lot of time
[06:24] <caine> hell no
[06:24] <danba> fabs, is it a trailer site, for streaming media?
[06:24] <d0z> I'm experiencing some problem with my Inprocomm IPN 2220 wifi card. Everything looks fine when I modprobe ndiswrapper. But I can't change settings with iwconfig.
[06:24] <caine> plus this was on windows before
[06:24] <Shinaku> I do apt-get update
[06:24] <Fator_Dee> caine: some keylogger?
[06:24] <fabs> danba, nope just the menu is in Flash
[06:25] <Shinaku> and it says 0% {connecting to us.archive.ubuntu...
[06:25] <Shinaku> and just stops at that
[06:25] <caine> factor: i dont think so
[06:25] <Fator_Dee> caine: no wonder if that was on windows and they knew your pass :-p
[06:25] <caine> but im not sure
[06:25] <danba> fabs, link me,
[06:25] <Shinaku> DNS works fine
[06:25] <mof> Fator_Dee, not if you have 10 machines
[06:25] <danba> d0z: ?
[06:25] <Shinaku> and it's aiming for 1.0.0.0
[06:25] <mindspin> Shinaku no route to host?
[06:25] <mof> for 10 pw
[06:25] <mindspin> nameserverprobs?
[06:25] <caine> i was the person who installed my com
[06:25] <caine> *comp
[06:25] <Fator_Dee> mof: usually you don't have acces to that many machines
[06:25] <Shinaku> nope, can't be
[06:25] <Gerrath> I remember reading that there were two device file systems that were popular, devfs was one, what is the other?
[06:25] <caine> no one else was in the room when i set all my stuff
[06:25] <Fator_Dee> mof: ordinary persons don't
[06:25] <Shinaku> I can wget from sites fine
[06:25] <fabs> danba, http://www.visualdesigner.net
[06:25] <mof> ok......
[06:26] <Echelon-H> how can I set a command to run on startup?
[06:26] <thoreauputic> Shinaku: is the URL pingable ?
[06:26] <danba> d0z: can you read this?
[06:26] <Loop_NZ> yes
[06:26] <Shinaku> no
[06:26] <Shinaku> root@Sparky:/home/sparky # ping us.archive.ubuntu.com
[06:26] <Shinaku> PING us.archive.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0) 56(84) bytes of data.
[06:26] <d0z> Yes danba.
[06:26] <danba> are you d0z?
[06:26] <Loop_NZ> sorry
[06:26] <reka> Echelon-H: system->prefs->sessions : startup programs (assuming gnome)
[06:26] <fabs> danba, it seems to be installing, that means I didn't have it installed properly perhaps, cos I tried to do it via Synaptic...
[06:26] <thoreauputic> Shinaku: so the server is down, obviously
[06:27] <Shuddertrix> Gerrath: udev?
[06:27] <danba> ivoks - d0z, d0z - ivoks...nice to meet you both...:)
[06:27] <danba> fabs, jsut a sec.
[06:27] <Shinaku> ah.. Ubuntu's server is down
[06:27] <Echelon-H> reka, and assuming xfce?
[06:27] <ivoks> d0z: hi
[06:27] <thoreauputic> Shinaku: if you can't ping it...
[06:27] <d0z> Hello ivoks. I can't figure out what's wrong with my wifi.
[06:27] <reka> Echelon-H: join #xfce :-)  you probably have to edit some config file
[06:27] <fabs> danba, sure, hmm still same
[06:27] <ivoks> d0z: so... your wifi card is?
[06:27] <Shinaku> I can ping it from this box though
[06:27] <Gerrath> Shuddertrix, udev thats it, its the newer one correct?
[06:27] <mindspin> caine with aknoppix cd on hand you'll have no problem to access nearly any computer
[06:28] <danba> fabs, yes it does not work here neither. perhaps it is too advanced.
[06:28] <Echelon-H> reka, k
[06:28] <nihao> is it true that, to support Grub splash image, kernel framebuffer should be enabled?
[06:28] <mindspin> if you got physical access to it
[06:28] <Shuddertrix> Gerrath: I think so
[06:28] <d0z> Inprocomm IPN 2220 chipset. I had it up and running under debian but not under ubuntu.
[06:28] <danba> fabs: on the other hand, maybe it is java, have taht working?
[06:28] <Gerrath> Shuddertrix, it supports hot swapping, does Ubuntu use it or devfs?
[06:29] <ivoks> d0z: do you remember what modules you used?
[06:29] <fabs> danba, oh u are right, well anyway I could try to re-install it? Via Synaptic? Oh try this, it was working b4 http://www.m2o.it
[06:29] <Echelon-H> can anyone please tell me how can I change my nickname in XChat PERMANENTLY?
[06:29] <mof> Gerrath, hald isn't it ?
[06:29] <jnoreiko> anyone here use skype?
[06:29] <Shinaku> ahh, it's back
[06:29] <reka> Echelon-H: xchat->serverlist
[06:29] <Echelon-H> jnoreiko, me
[06:29] <Shuddertrix> Gerrath: Not sure..
[06:29] <Echelon-H> reka, tried that. for some reason it always comes back to my linux username
[06:29] <ivoks> d0z: ?
[06:30] <jnoreiko> I just ran dpkg -i with the latest .deb, and launched skype again, and it still says the old version number in About
[06:30] <Loop_NZ> I intend to use Skype but I don't yet
[06:30] <caine> mindspin: what are you talking about?
[06:30] <fabs> danba, also because I did install VB6 with CrossOver and it did play about with java stuff, so u are prob right
[06:30] <mof> i think suse were the once who use devfs
[06:30] <danba> fabs, yeah, that is a quicktime type of thing, embedded video... mplayer needed for that, and it does not always work... http://ubuntuguide.org/#mplayer .
[06:30] <mindspin> If I have a knoppix cd and access to your rom drive, I can fetch any data on that machine
[06:31] <ArthurSensei> any1 has a realplayer linux that works properly?
[06:31] <slept> does anyone know how I can make xfce shutdown without passwd ?
[06:31] <danba> fabs, referring to the second site.
[06:31] <reka> Echelon-H: try and put Echelon-H in all the text boxes.
[06:31] <mindspin> i mean everybody can do that, not only me
[06:31] <thoreauputic> jnoreiko: probably a different path to the executable
[06:31] <d0z> ivoks: Yes, I have downloaded the same windows drivers. Then I fetched ndiswrapper with apt. When I modprobe everything looks fine.
[06:31] <Echelon-H> i don't think it'll do any difference.
[06:31] <Echelon-H> i tried changing them all anyway
[06:31] <danba> slept, run a sudo command within 15 seconds before shutting down:-p
[06:31] <Echelon-H> but the moment i'm doing reset it's coming back to echeln
[06:31] <fabs> danba, strange though it used to work, but I have just realized no java is installed in my sys
[06:31] <Echelon-H> *echelon
[06:31] <ivoks> d0z: ok, does iwconfig shows you anything?
[06:32] <slept> danba, then I can just enter the passwd
[06:32] <jnoreiko> how do I update the locate db?
[06:32] <d0z> ivoks: Yes, I parse you it privatly.
[06:32] <danba> fabs, I have 3 at least installed, still it does not work, I broke it somewhere, but I dont care enough yet to fix it...
[06:32] <thoreauputic> jnoreiko: sudo updatedb
[06:32] <ivoks> d0z: don't :)
[06:32] <Gerrath> I think from what I have read Ubuntu uses udev and not devfs, can anyone confirm this for me?
[06:32] <ivoks> d0z: it's nice if it shows you anything...
[06:33] <mindspin> you can also get ERD tools to get acces to any windows machine (works not on linux )
[06:33] <ivoks> d0z: you don't have to paste all that details
[06:33] <mof> jnoreiko, updatedb
[06:33] <fabs> danba, yes, I think i have done the same... thanks a lot for ur help anyway!!
[06:33] <ivoks> khm...
[06:33] <danba> welcome.
[06:33] <ivoks> read BEFORE you type
[06:33] <d0z> ivoks: Ok, it's not that much.
[06:33] <reka> Echelon-H: try enabling "global user info" in a server's edit popup
[06:33] <d0z> ivoks: I can scan and find my ap, but not connect to it.
[06:33] <ivoks> d0z: so.. where is the problem?
[06:33] <mindspin> btw. I know also everything my son is doing on his computer ;-)
[06:33] <danba> d0z: you can also use http://pastebin.com or the like, or #flood
[06:34] <slept> whats the difference between gnome and xfce shutdown ?
[06:34] <ivoks> d0z: http://www.grad.hr/~ivoks/ubuntu
[06:34] <ivoks> d0z: download wifi-radar and install it
[06:34] <d0z> ivoks: I can't connect, thats the problem.
[06:34] <slept> mindspin, you should respect privacy
[06:34] <reka> slept: one is done in gnome and the other in xfce?
[06:34] <d0z> ivoks: Is there an .deb?
[06:35] <d0z> danba: Ok.
[06:35] <mindspin> my son is twelfe
[06:35] <ivoks> d0z: yes
[06:35] <mindspin> twelve
[06:35] <ivoks> d0z: that's a deb
[06:35] <Echelon-H> reka, it is enabled.
[06:35] <mindspin> so I'm responsible for what he's doing
[06:35] <Echelon-H> :\
[06:35] <danba> slept, nice
[06:36] <ivoks> d0z: does 'iwlist wlan0 scan' shows you your AP?
[06:36] <reka> mindspin: just curious, at what age will you "slacken the leash"?  i agree that 12 yr olds should be monitored
[06:36] <daba> well, this account is in xchat, Ill try...
[06:37] <mindspin> reka, that depends, I think on what he's doing
[06:37] <bytheway> quit
[06:37] <bytheway> oops
[06:37] <d0z> ivoks: Yes.
[06:37] <ivoks> d0z: so... where is problem?! :)
[06:37] <ivoks> d0z: does your AP allows you to connect?
[06:37] <d0z> ivoks: iwlist ath0 peers. Don't show my client. :)
[06:37] <drcode> hi all
[06:37] <mindspin> as much freedom as possible and as much control as necessary, that's my approach
[06:37] <ivoks> d0z: ath0?
[06:37] <drcode> any one read about the israel torjen?
[06:38] <Fator_Dee> mindspin: better to keep monitoring until he developes common sense :-)
[06:38] <drcode> in the news?
[06:38] <ivoks> d0z: wlan0, not ath0
[06:38] <reka> mindspin: sounds reasonable
[06:38] <d0z> ivoks: It's an debian system that runs as ap. :)
[06:38] <ivoks> d0z: you have wifi interface on wlan0, not ath0
[06:38] <slept> is there a ubuntu  channel for xfce ?
[06:39] <Fator_Dee> slept: #ubuntux
[06:39] <mindspin> and I have no problem with him, looking for naked girls sometimes, cause that is natural for that age
[06:39] <d0z> ivoks: My clients wifi card is wlan0. My gateway behind the tv that's act ap is ath0.
[06:39] <slept> thanks
[06:39] <Fator_Dee> mindspin: :-)
[06:39] <ivoks> d0z: so what?!
[06:39] <ivoks> d0z: you are scanning on wlan0, not ath0
[06:39] <mindspin> It#s more for security reasons and personalshooter stuff I#m afraid of
[06:39] <ivoks> d0z: i don't care what you have for AP
[06:39] <reka> mindspin: personalshooter?
[06:39] <mindspin> games
[06:40] <d0z> ivoks: Hheh yes that's very true. But scanning and being connected isn't the same thing.
[06:40] <ivoks> d0z: just run 'iwlist wlan0 scan'
[06:40] <ivoks> d0z: does it show you your AP?
[06:40] <Fator_Dee> mindspin: as long as he knows that they are only games I'd think it's ok
[06:40] <jnoreiko> I have a skype in /usr/bin and one in /opt/skype_staticQT-1.0.0.20
[06:40] <jnoreiko> and neither of them run from the command line. don't know which one is running from gnome menu
[06:40] <d0z> ivoks: Yes.
[06:41] <Fator_Dee> mindspin: I didn't grow up to be a nutcase even if I liked to play mortal kombat when i was 10 or something :-)
[06:41] <mindspin> my view on this is very ambivalent coz I dislike those games very much
[06:41] <d0z> ivoks: But the quality isn't that good.
[06:41] <daba> Fator_Dee, better things to do for a 12 year old...
[06:41] <Fator_Dee> daba: of course
[06:41] <mindspin> he#s playing MI on the xbox
[06:41] <mindspin> that should be enough
[06:41] <ivoks> d0z: just download taht wifi-radar and copy it with usbstick or something
[06:41] <daba> I did too, tho, MK, Doom2, and such...
[06:41] <ArthurSensei> mindspin> learn him chess :)
[06:41] <ivoks> d0z: run it from menu and connect yo your AP
[06:41] <mindspin> hehe
[06:42] <Fator_Dee> mindspin: or go
[06:42] <d0z> ivoks: Yes i've tried disable it but it still doesn't work.
[06:42] <ivoks> d0z: disabling what?
[06:42] <mindspin> If a game is free for 16++ its not for twelve year olds
[06:42] <mindspin> but in fact its not a big problem
[06:43] <d0z> ivoks: The encryption. Just a moment I'll see what wifi-radar have to say.
[06:43] <d0z> ivoks: You can do wonderfull things with ssh I control both the ap and client.
[06:43] <ivoks> :)
[06:44] <ivoks> that's why i'm still 23 :)
[06:44] <ivoks> lol, wrong channel
[06:44] <mindspin> he's surfing via squid and once a week I have a short look at what he's up to
[06:44] <Echelon-H> Ugh, I'm depreessed.
[06:44] <Echelon-H> my computer can run Republic Commando :\
[06:44] <Echelon-H> *cn't
[06:44] <Echelon-H> *can't.
[06:44] <slon> hah, you were in #naughty_girls, werent you?
[06:45] <reka> mindspin: so *has* he been looking at naked women?
[06:45] <mindspin> sure
[06:45] <Echelon-H> reka, lol
[06:45] <Fator_Dee> Echelon-H: go take a hike (I mean, running is a great way to enhance your general feeling)
[06:45] <reka> Echelon-H: it had to be asked.
[06:45] <slon> reka, in facgt mindspin mentioned that earlier.
[06:46] <Echelon-H> Fator_Dee, im usually running on fridays :P
[06:46] <Fator_Dee> Echelon-H: make an exception :-)
[06:46] <slon> as something that is not too bad, he guesses...
[06:46] <Echelon-H> Fator_Dee, nah, it's late by now.
[06:46] <Echelon-H> Fator_Dee, to run, I mean.
[06:46] <Echelon-H> anyways, playing a guitar > running.
[06:46] <slon> well, Echelon-H that worked.....
[06:46] <slept> how does gnome do the shoutdown /  as which user ?
[06:47] <ArthurSensei> is shutdown -h now ok for ubuntu
[06:47] <slon> slept, my xfce does not ask me as yours does you.
[06:47] <IcemanV9> ArthurSensei: yes
[06:47] <mindspin> ArthurSensei  sudo init 0
[06:48] <Echelon-H> ugh, I need to go and get ready for some math test... Was nice to meet you.
[06:48] <tarvid> any modem recommendations?
[06:48] <Tezkah> so I want to start a program on startup, and when I start it, I have to use "sudo athcool on"
[06:48] <Tezkah> how can I make it automagically run?
[06:48] <puls1on> hi every body, anyone can help me plz?
[06:48] <danba> !fr
[06:48] <reka> Tezkah: system->prefs->sessions : startup programs tab
[06:49] <reka> ... i think
[06:49] <danba> Echelon-H: once you change it, hit connect.
[06:49] <Tezkah> for KDE? :P
[06:49] <danba> oops, taht was a little scrolled up.
[06:49] <mindspin> Tezkah sudo is only necessary for administration issues
[06:49] <puls1on> anyone can help me plz?
[06:49] <danba> puls1on: please ask your question
[06:50] <d0z> ivoks: Ok, got it up and running, couldn't find a .deb though.
[06:50] <reka> Tezkah: no, those were gnome instructions. :-p
[06:50] <mindspin> Tezkah sudo kcontrol
[06:50] <slept> puls1on, just ask
[06:50] <Tezkah> mindspin: athcool : must run as root. exit
[06:50] <danba> I can help you if you ask about something I can help with.
[06:50] <Echelon-H> danba, had a small delay?
[06:50] <danba> heh, no, no...
[06:50] <danba> I was in xchat trying to see how to do it...
[06:50] <mindspin> so you have to run it sudo
[06:50] <djp> does gnome-bluetooth work under hoary?
[06:50] <ivoks> d0z: lol, there are 4-5 files... one is deb :)
[06:50] <shido6> if you change the domain on a sip device and can no longer get to that device via its web interface how do you make your network appear to be that domain ( using linux as a router and dns server here)
[06:50] <d0z> ivoks: On the homepage?
[06:51] <shido6> the device believes the domain is bleh.bleh.bleh
[06:51] <danba> Echelon-H: heh, no, no...
[06:51] <puls1on> i want to see in my files system the others prtitions of my HDD, they are 2 in NTS and 1 in FAT32, how can i do that? now, in my /etc/mnt , i don't see anything
[06:51] <ivoks> d0z: http://www.grad.hr/~ivoks/ubuntu/wifi-radar_1.9.3-0ubuntu2_i386.deb
[06:51] <Gerrath> Shuddertrix, Thanks for the help, I just searched my processes and found the udevd is running so I guess Ubuntu does use edev.
[06:51] <shido6> how do i make my network appear to be the domain bleh.bleh.bleh
[06:51] <shido6> ?
[06:51] <danba> Echelon-H: I was in xchat trying to see how to do it...but I left this scrolled up.
[06:51] <reka> puls1on: ubuntuguide.org
[06:51] <Gerrath> Shuddertrix, I mean udev..typo
[06:51] <Echelon-H> danba, Oh.. thanks anyway, i hope it'll work
[06:51] <d0z> ivoks: Well I downloaded it from http://www.bitbuilder.com/wifi_radar/.
[06:51] <Echelon-H> i just dont wanna reset now
[06:51] <ivoks> d0z: no, man...
[06:51] <danba> Echelon-H: do you hit connect after you change the name
[06:51] <danba> ?
[06:51] <ivoks> ah..
[06:51] <puls1on> that's all?
[06:52] <danba> haha, d0z:-p
[06:52] <tarvid> which modems does ubuntu recognize and configure directly?
[06:52] <Echelon-H> danba, now I did
[06:52] <Echelon-H> but i doubt it'll work
[06:52] <danba> no, puls1on, Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Ubuntu peuvent venir sur #ubuntu-fr for one... then also, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions .
[06:52] <d0z> ivoks: ?? confused isn't it the same piece of software?
[06:52] <nihao> I see nothing in firefox when accessing http://www.gou-gou.com/cgi-bin/bbs/leobbs.cgi, why?
[06:52] <danba> echelon, sometimes it does, try...:)
[06:52] <danba> nihao, to start off...
[06:52] <puls1on> merci beaucoup :) :)
[06:52] <ivoks> d0z: this one is packaged for ubuntu
[06:52] <ogi_> puls1on, http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[06:53] <Echelon-H> i'll reboot only to see if it works
[06:53] <Echelon-H> Wish me luck...
[06:53] <reka> danba: i'm impressed.
[06:53] <ivoks> d0z: it autom. recognizes your card, shows in menu, has man page, etc, etc...
[06:53] <danba> puls1on: got that from the bot, though, I dont speak french, altho I am in Canada now.
[06:53] <iceman2K> cool .. installing ubuntu on my wifes pc ..
[06:53] <nihao> danba: what do you mean??
[06:53] <danba> reka: by what? Ive been here for a while...
[06:53] <reka> danba: i'm not impressed anymore
[06:53] <ivoks> d0z: upstream version doesn't have all of that
[06:53] <danba> nihao means hi,.
[06:53] <danba> so I said, hi, to start off.
[06:53] <iceman2K> can just do a file xfer of the repositories
[06:53] <reka> :-)
[06:53] <puls1on> thx all, u 're nice  :)
[06:54] <IcemanV9> iceman2K: ha. does ur wife know about this?! ;)
[06:54] <danba> man, that echelon-h needs to sstop rebooting.
[06:54] <danba> youre welcome, puls1on.
[06:54] <slon> yes, youre welcome...
[06:54] <nihao> danba: glad to know that you know it. 
[06:54] <slon> ah....
[06:55] <danba> nihao, that is unfortunately as much as I know of chinese, except xie xie...
[06:55] <iceman2K> IcemanV9 yep ... could not control her windows 98 ... to many viruses
[06:55] <d0z> ivoks: Ok, iv'e changed package now.
[06:56] <IcemanV9> iceman2K: heh. glad that your wife is willing to use Ubuntu as mine did. :)
[06:56] <reka> icemen: i love convert stories. :-)
[06:56] <iceman2K> IcemanV9 i'm impressed by ubuntu .. more that a lot of distros ...
[06:56] <mindspin> reka really?
[06:56] <_hp_> i kind of want to go back to windows to run my photoshop cs2, itunes and 3ds max
[06:56] <ivoks> d0z: start it from menu or sudo wifi-radar
[06:56] <d0z> ivoks: This is what I get. First column a question mark. Then it's locked, good signal, managed, and the incredible performance that 802.11g delivers. :)
[06:56] <reka> mindspin: yes, really.
[06:56] <_hp_> still windows free though
[06:56] <Echelon-H> _hp_, wine?
[06:56] <nihao> :-) OK, maybe you also know "zai jian" means good bye or c u...
[06:57] <slon> I worship danba too...cause he is very much like me...
[06:57] <mindspin> wanna here how I became atheist ? haha ;-)
[06:57] <_hp_> Echelon-H: wine runs only photoshop 7.0 and 3ds max will not start at all
[06:57] <ivoks> d0z: click connect
[06:57] <slept> _hp_, did you try gimp blender amarok ?
[06:57] <Echelon-H> _hp_, i see...
[06:57] <mof> bye
[06:57] <ivoks> d0z: enter your WEP key and you should be good
[06:57] <_hp_> slept: i've tried gimp... it's a far shot from photoshop cs2
[06:57] <danba> gimpshop?
[06:57] <iceman2K> I still cant find the "ANY KEY" on my keyboard ...
[06:58] <reka> mindspin: that's not really a conversion.  wouldn't that be rejection> :-)
[06:58] <danba> nihao: yeah, I knew taht, too, youre right.
[06:58] <Echelon-H> iceman2K, hehee
[06:58] <caine> do any of you guys use apollon?
[06:58] <_hp_> slept: does blender have a reactor type deal?
[06:58] <mindspin> ok, depends of your point of view
[06:58] <danba> kam bej, too:)
[06:58] <slept> _hp_, never used photoshop
[06:58] <Echelon-H> iceman2K, reminds me of StarCraft *drop of tear*
[06:58] <danba> kam bei
[06:58] <reka> mindspin: lol, i guess
[06:59] <mindspin> kam bei was ?
[06:59] <danba> caine, why, I dont...
[06:59] <_hp_> slept: i find it a lot better and easier to use than gimp because i am so used to it
[06:59] <caine> if anybody could help me fix apollon that would gr8
[06:59] <caine> idk whats wrong with it
[06:59] <danba> mindspin, cheers in mandarin chinese.
[06:59] <iceman2K> Dang wish loki software were available ..
[06:59] <mindspin> I c
[06:59] <caine> it it gives me this "Sorry, I couldn't locate your giFT installation,please select the path to your giFT like /.../share/giFT"
[06:59] <slept> _hp_, I can't tell  I tryed to use it long time ago and there were many many ...
[06:59] <nihao> danba: can you solve my technical problem? it seems that firefox can't render the page for correctly http://www.gou-gou.com/cgi-bin/bbs/leobbs.cgi
[07:00] <slept> _hp_, blender
[07:00] <pestilence> danba: it's "gan bei" not "kam bej"
[07:00] <danba> caine, Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement.  Does it sit on the couch all day?  Does it want more money?  Does it waste its time on IRC all day long?  Please be specific!  Define 'it' and what it isn't doing.
[07:00] <danba> pestilence: thank you.
[07:00] <_hp_> slept: at least blender is cheaper than 3ds max ;) ... makes upgrading a lot easier
[07:00] <caine> danba:  your a little late
[07:00] <caine> caine it it gives me this "Sorry, I couldn't locate your giFT installation,please select the path to your giFT like /.../share/giFT"
[07:00] <dr_willis> :)
[07:00] <reka> danba: hehe, give him a break.
[07:00] <ezequiel> how could I get the flash player working in my ubuntu for amd64?
[07:00] <danba> caine, that is what dpkg on #debian says when you say dont work:)
[07:01] <caine> lol
[07:01] <danba> I just went to get it, I like the statement:)
[07:01] <reka> danba: egads, you've run into dpkg as well?
[07:01] <caine> you need to work on ur timing
[07:01] <dr_willis> ezequiel,  good luck :P i think its going to take a little work.
[07:01] <caine> so can anybody help me
[07:01] <reka> danba: is he really a bot?
[07:01] <caine> it it gives me this "Sorry, I couldn't locate your giFT installation,please select the path to your giFT like /.../share/giFT"
[07:02] <mindspin> locate giFT ?
[07:02] <ezequiel> dr_willis, can't it be wrapped through the linux32?
[07:02] <danba> yes, he is a bot.
[07:03] <reka> danba: well don't i look stupid.  i called him an oaf!
[07:03] <reka> lmao
[07:03] <danba> caine, would you like to try sudo aptitude install gtk-gnutella ? or do you need to use apollon?
[07:03] <cknwings> I'm having a issue with error during boot of ubuntu, pci...lotsonumber. @ata;3 blahblahblah.. basicly my install is hosted, i need to repair it, but ive 150gb of data i dont want to loose in the /home folder... would i loose this by running a Repair (if there is such a thing)?
[07:04] <danba> nihao: this is what tghe top of the page looks like on my computer... www.mts.net/~danb/Screenshot-5.png
[07:04] <cknwings> wiki has 0 relevant hits on repair intsallation, google basicly the same... how can this be? :)
[07:04] <danba> nihao, is that the right way for the page to be?
[07:04] <danba> reka, well, somewhat:)
[07:04] <slept> cknwings, do you have ext3 filesystem ?
[07:04] <danba> youll learn.
[07:04] <danba> makes you look new, to me...
[07:05] <cknwings> yes ext3, and im able to mout teh drive and read the data by running the livcCD
[07:05] <danba> people with a small vocabulary may choose stupid...
[07:05] <cknwings> slept, i just dont have another drive to pit it all... heh, then id just copy it and reintsall everything with new partition for /home but thats to late now i guess
[07:05] <roshlame> when i start xine-ui there is this message on the window title "xine: There is no mrl."
[07:06] <slept> cknwings, for fschk you don't mount the drive
[07:06] <lillis> I am having some major issues with ubuntu/fluxbox and fonts.. I can see the fonts in xfontsel, and I can use "aterm -font edges" to get the edges font in aterm et cetera... but the styles refuse to pick up the new fonts. What can I possibly do wrong? I have the swedish artwiz fonts and i have tried "Egdes.se" "edges.se" "Edges" and "edges", nothing works.
[07:06] <danba> pestilence: you can imagine why someone would learn gan bei wrong;)
[07:06] <roshlame> it plays avi files but i don't hear any sound
[07:06] <ogi_> What distros support r/w on NTFS?
[07:06] <reka> lol.  iirc they someone told me dpkg was a bot but i didn't register it.  basically i asked a question about dpkg and had links to an ubuntu pastebin.  so i guess someone invoked the bot.  he said something like "just because the morons in #ubuntu couldn't help doesn't mean you can dump your question here."
[07:07] <cknwings> ogi, none afaik, the w feature is very unstable and not recommended
[07:07] <danba> reka, nice...
[07:07] <Timbo> #debian is pretty poor for the OMG N00B FLAME HIM syndrome
[07:07] <danba> Timbo: how often do you go there?
[07:08] <Fikrann> ogi_, none. You might be interested in Captive ntfs driver, but be warned, its VERY SLOW
[07:08] <d0z> ivoks: Wow, that program was simple. But it didn't work.
[07:08] <reka> Timbo: yes, i learned that.
[07:08] <cknwings> slept, ill try to run fschk, but if i want to Reinstall the system WITHOUT touching the content in /hom is this possible?
[07:08] <Timbo> danba: whenever i have a debian problem
[07:08] <Timbo> that i can't solve myself
[07:08] <ivoks> d0z: then your AP is broken
[07:08] <danba> so pretty often?
[07:08] <Timbo> or via the bts
[07:08] <ivoks> d0z: you didn't set it up well
[07:09] <danba> I mean, more than 4 times?
[07:09] <d0z> ivoks: No it's not because my neighbour is using it aswell.
[07:09] <ivoks> d0z: don't use WEP, it's crap...
[07:09] <nihao> danba: yes! but my firefox is unable to display it. just blank page....
[07:09] <ivoks> d0z: do you have MAC filter maybe?
[07:09] <slept> cknwings, why do you want to reinstall ? Did you mess up things that bad ?
[07:09] <caine> danba: i just need to use a file sharing system like kazaa or gnutella that works
[07:09] <d0z> ivoks: Yes I know. But that's the only thing that my neighbours crappy d-link can handle.
[07:09] <danba> nihao, it uses flash and java, probably.
[07:09] <Avinoam> I understand that Ubuntu doesn't let you use root?
[07:09] <caine> and apollon came with it so i installed it
[07:09] <caine> but its not working correctly
[07:09] <dr_willis> Avinoam,  thats totally false. :P
[07:09] <ivoks> d0z: ?
[07:09] <danba> caine, then do the install command I told you, are you in kde?
[07:10] <ivoks> d0z: d-links can filter on MAC address
[07:10] <dr_willis> Avinoam,  you just cant 'login' straight to root. (but thats eaially changed)
[07:10] <Avinoam> Dr, that's what distrowatch said
[07:10] <Avinoam> oh i see
[07:10] <d0z> ivoks: I do filter pretty hard but not on mac yet. I think. Perhaps I should look into that.
[07:10] <Juhaz> Avinoam, ubuntu doesn't let you log in as root, but it does let you use it trough sudo
[07:10] <danba> nihao: do you awnt to install flash and Java?
[07:10] <Avinoam> they said on distrowatch to use sudo?
[07:10] <caine> and yet if i knew what kde was i could answer that ?
[07:10] <slept> danba, caine ,aMule is nice for filesharing
[07:10] <Timbo> danba: yes
[07:10] <Avinoam> sudo and then whatever command?
[07:10] <dr_willis> distrowatch is wrong then :P
[07:10] <ivoks> d0z: for start, set up your AP as open, without any filtering
[07:10] <reka> Avinoam: yes.
[07:10] <caine> im gettin gnutella now
[07:10] <d0z> ivoks: Yes I know but MAC filter isn't that safe either.
[07:10] <ivoks> d0z: then try to connect
[07:10] <Avinoam> ok
[07:10] <nihao> danba: I have installed flash and java. for other pages, they work.
[07:10] <Avinoam> i'm gonna burn the CD
[07:11] <ivoks> d0z: if that works, then harden your AP
[07:11] <danba> timbo, cool, just wondering, a lot of trolls there, I agree, ithe whole channel altogether is not too bad, it does not hurt to flame newbies sometimes, to teach them.
[07:11] <nihao> danba: I don't if this "cgi" service matters...
[07:11] <lillis> I am having some major issues with ubuntu/fluxbox and fonts.. I can see the fonts in xfontsel, and I can use "aterm -font edges" to get the edges font in aterm et cetera... but the styles refuse to pick up the new fonts. What can I possibly do wrong? I have the swedish artwiz fonts and i have tried "Egdes.se" "edges.se" "Edges" and "edges", nothing works.
[07:11] <caine> i have flash installed but i think there somthing wrong somewhere on my comp
[07:11] <danba> shouldnt. It is server side.
[07:11] <caine> or i havnt installed something
[07:11] <caine> because some stuff for flash wont work
[07:11] <caine> and other will
[07:11] <d0z> ivoks: I'll try some more, thanks for all the help both you ivoks and danba.
[07:11] <Timbo> yes, it's almost fair enough in #debian or #gentoo
[07:11] <caine> and all of them were using flash 7
[07:11] <cknwings> well, i booted and i get a funny error..."/pci@800000000/pci-bridge/pci-ata@1/@0/disk@0;3,boot/vmlinux:input / output error
[07:11] <Fikrann> lillis, use fluxconf?
[07:11] <ivoks> d0z: bottom line: you wifi works
[07:12] <Timbo> but it pains me to see people get flamed for not knowing what 'ls' is for example
[07:12] <lillis> huh?
[07:12] <ivoks> d0z: it can connect to you wifi network, but it is closed four you
[07:12] <Timbo> when they're made a genuine effort to try something new (linux)
[07:12] <cknwings> and as far as i can see that error occured after a synaptic update... i just dont know which (a friends got exactly teh same error and he had to reinstall to fix it)
[07:12] <ogi_> How am I going to get files quckly and painlessly from ubuntu tu windows...
[07:12] <caine> danba: now what do i do....go to synaptic?
[07:12] <reka> Timbo: i agree
[07:12] <lillis> Fikrann: How/where?
[07:12] <caine> ogi: ur not
[07:12] <d0z> ivoks: My wifi works for my my neigbour but not for me yet. Well I have TP so it's not that urgent.
[07:12] <caine> i have the same problem
[07:12] <Avinoam> hopefully, i'll be back here after i install and get internet working
[07:12] <reka> but then again i was flamed myself
[07:12] <Avinoam> :)
[07:12] <ivoks> d0z: your wifi card WORKS
[07:12] <d0z> ivoks: Yes, that's correct. :)
[07:12] <caine> ogi: what ever you do, do not get wine
[07:12] <reka> Avinoam: good luck
[07:13] <Avinoam> thank you
[07:13] <Fikrann> lillis, there's a tool, fluxconf, it might be able to set fonts for fluxbox.
[07:13] <ivoks> d0z: you don't have to do anything on ubuntu
[07:13] <caine> ogi: go find a free version of crossover
[07:13] <ivoks> d0z: only on your AP
[07:13] <caine> or buy it
[07:13] <danba> timbo, yeah, sure...
[07:13] <ogi_> caine, why is that? :P
[07:13] <danba> but, caine is about to get flamed...
[07:13] <Timbo> hehe
[07:13] <danba> caine, please lay off the enter...
[07:13] <slept> cknwings, you can resize the partition, then create a new one with lvm copy things and then shrink your old  partition again and  resize the lvm and so on till you have copyied your whole /home
[07:13] <caine> danba: ?
[07:13] <lillis> Fikrann,thank you Fikrann, I will see if it works
[07:14] <danba> just press enter less often.
[07:14] <caine> oh
[07:14] <caine> sry i type faster than i think lol
[07:14] <caine> sometiems
[07:14] <caine> *times
[07:14] <ogi_> :D
[07:14] <danba> ANyhow, I do it too. Have you sudo aptitude gtk-gnutella?
[07:14] <d0z> ivoks: Well, wifi-radar did manage to change settings I couldn't manually with iwconfig. Everything looks fine but traffic doesn't flow.
[07:14] <caine> danba: yes i have
[07:14] <caine> now what
[07:14] <ivoks> d0z: does your AP has dhcp server on it?
[07:15] <danba> caine: now, Apps>Internet>gtk-gnutella, or gtk-gnutella in a terminal...
[07:15] <d0z> ivoks: No. I only have a couple of computers so I don't see any need for it.
[07:15] <cknwings> slept OMG, heh id rather just buya new drive.. man is it REALLY not possible just to fix a Ubuntu installation?.. i mean its boasted about this in the Ubuntu WIKI that, ubuntu is much easier to fix and repair in case of problems... but what i can see and find its about in the same area as win3.11 regarding this, not winxp :)
[07:15] <caine> sweet
[07:15] <danba> cknwings: what is broken?
[07:15] <ivoks> d0z: lol i have only one, but i have dhcp :)
[07:16] <caine> so i guess now its completely installed?
[07:16] <ivoks> d0z: then, you configured your IP, DNS, routing, etc... corectly?
[07:16] <danba> cknwings: if you deleted your whole hard drive, it is not very easy to fix it.
[07:16] <d0z> ivoks: I used it before, but I don't want it on wireless.
[07:16] <shido6> ok I figured it out
[07:16] <danba> caine, yes, well, that program is, I use that one, it is very niceC:)
[07:16] <cknwings> danba, i didnt delete anyghing.. get error "/pci@800000000/pci-bridge/pci-ata@1/@0/disk@0;3,boot/vmlinux:input / output error at boot ... im still able to mount and get access ot everything on the disk by booting from liveCD
[07:16] <caine> can i d/l videos music software etc?
[07:16] <danba> good stuff, shido6, I believed in you all the time.
[07:17] <caine> yes i can
[07:17] <caine> good
[07:17] <caine> ty
[07:17] <d0z> ivoks: Yes. I'm an network technician so I got it correct. :) I think. hehe
[07:17] <slept> cknwings, you have to find out what the reason , then you can find out how to fix it ( lvm things are very easy to use - if you can't fix it )
[07:17] <nihao> danba: I have to quit now. mid-night in china already, have a good day, c u!
[07:17] <danba> see, that is the enter I mean, caine.
[07:17] <caine> sry
[07:17] <danba> you too, thank you nihao.
[07:17] <ivoks> d0z: and your /etc/resolv.conf has right DNS namerservers?
[07:17] <danba> caine, dont be sorry, change it, that is all.
[07:17] <caine> hey now how do i completely uninstall apollon through terminal
[07:17] <cknwings> danba, friend got Exactly the same error using the same old school mac g4 :), cant imagine HW issue
[07:17] <d0z> ivoks: Yes, everything is correct.
[07:18] <d0z> ivoks: Otherwise i wouldn't talk to you now. :)
[07:18] <ivoks> d0z: ifconfig | grep inet
[07:18] <ivoks> d0z: ?
[07:18] <lillis> Argggghhhhhh!!
[07:18] <d0z> ivoks: I'm on TP now.
[07:18] <ivoks> d0z: i'm takling about you computer with wifi card
[07:18] <_kevin> I can't get gparted to open on Ubuntu
[07:18] <Fikrann> cknwings, you have problems with lvm?
[07:18] <_kevin> it says scanning
[07:18] <_kevin> and then just disappears
[07:18] <d0z> ivoks: It's the same computer. :)
[07:18] <lillis> Fikrann: It couldn't change anything like that.. I tried pointing it to a new theme file just doing "*Font: anorexia" but it still doesn't work.
[07:18] <caine> danba: how do i completely uninstall apollon?
[07:18] <ivoks> d0z: then how do you know it isn't working?
[07:18] <danba> caine, thank you, I saw it the first time, too.
[07:19] <caine> oh sorry
[07:21] <knewt> how do i get the old-style file open dialog back with gtk2?
[07:21] <ogi_> Well, let's say I try crossover. What are the downsides with it except that it's slow?
[07:22] <Fikrann> lilis, sorry .. I never really understood how fluxbox finds its fonts, since the X font descriptor doesn't always work.
[07:37] (isai/#ubuntu) jfletcher: www.gentoo.org user guides.
[07:37] (jfletcher/#ubuntu) Fator_Dee: i wanna put my usb stuff in there, also for bluetooth
[07:37] (newbie/#ubuntu) frankly I have no idea as to why does GNOME splash the message that I just mentioned.
[07:38] <isai> does any one here know how to view windows shares over the network?
[07:39] <dbernar1_> newbie, well, does it do something bad, do some applcations really not run?
[07:39] <slept> isai , samba
[07:39] <pfp> isai: top menu - places - network servers
[07:39] <isai> slept: any good samba startup guides?
[07:39] <newbie> yes
[07:39] <newbie> I can connect online through the live cd perfect
[07:40] <caine> hey where do the files i d/l on gnutella go
[07:40] <caine> lol
[07:40] <newbie> but the installed version is giving a problem
[07:40] <pfp> afaik you don't need to configure samba if you just want to access other ppls shares
[07:40] <slept> isai, you can install swat which has nice docs with it
[07:40] <caine> nm
[07:40] <slept> isai, do you want to have a server or a client ?
[07:40] <WldRbit> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[07:40] <WldRbit> glxgears: Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual.
[07:40] <WldRbit> anybody got that ?
[07:41] <newbie> System>Preferences works fine. When I click on Networking to use dial up, there is an icon that shows that it is about to load up. Heck. It doesnt start up
[07:41] <isai> slept: both, but first I want to test the client.
[07:41] <slept> isai , with smbtree you can see what' available
[07:41] <IIIEars_> jcaine - likely in your "home/username/gnutella" folder" - you may need to enable "Show hidden folders"
[07:41] <Shuddertrix> WldRbit: You don't have a accelerated driver in your xorg.conf, or you didn't add the GLX extension to your xorg.conf
[07:42] <newbie> Is that some kind of a bug?
[10:00] (tiny_linux/#ubuntu) somebody else, can help me to setting up mail server
[10:00] (dbernar1_/#ubuntu) um, can you use the dvd player as a data reading device, rather than a dvd moive player?
[10:00] (hhurtta/#ubuntu) how do i change locale from utf-8 to say, iso8859 or so?
[10:00] (DekaPink/#ubuntu) dbernarl_: That's okay.... I don't think I want to install it after all... It wasn't something I -needed-, just something I wanted to play with. ^^
[10:01] <dbernar1_> tiny_linux, please give more informatiion when asking, otherwise noone will be able to help you.
[10:01] <Fikrann> hhurtta, why do you want to move from the universal character set?
[10:01] <poochie> man i am starting to have all sorts of problems
[10:02] <hhurtta> Fikrann: utf8 has some issues with ie. scands
[10:02] <hhurtta> that is  or 
[10:02] <hhurtta> for example
[10:02] <yoor> fuck it, it doesn't work
[10:02] <dbernar1_> dekapink, if you can make your /etc/apt/sources.list file look like www.mts.net/~danb/sources.list you can easily use synaptic's search function, for name and description, to search for programs, and install and play with them.
[10:02] <shido6> how do I make a bootdisk for my system in an .iso form
[10:03] <Fikrann> hhurtta, what is scands?
[10:03] <dbernar1_> yoor, please dont swear, what doesn t work? have you tried using a data DVD with that drive?
[10:03] <dbernar1_> scandinavian.
[10:03] <caine> gnutella keeps crashing!!
[10:03] <yonil> Is there a way using lsap to check what is using my sound card ?
[10:03] <hhurtta> letters like  and 
[10:03] <caine> it was working now its crashing
[10:03] <shido6> hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc
[10:03] <shido6> hdparm -d1 /dev/hdd
[10:04] <yoor> no
[10:04] <DekaPink> dbernarl_: Okey doke.... Currently, my sources.list is like how they tell you to put it at ubuntuguide.org
[10:04] <yoor> done, ever done..!
[10:04] <shido6> do that on your dma interfaces
[10:04] <shido6> no more crashing
[10:04] <dbernar1_> DekaPink, dont read that, read www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ first
[10:04] <yonil> Bhaaa what is the command ? something like "lsap"
[10:04] <dbernar1_> there is a search function, DekaPink .
[10:04] <yonil> to check what devices applications are using
[10:05] <yoor> i've got all the required libraries and I'm sure I have ever read a dvd
[10:05] <poochie> my ati drivers aren't working, i followed this wiki guide http://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:05] <caine> ok now its working for some odd reason
[10:05] <poochie> hoary version
[10:05] <dbernar1_> yonil, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26567&highlight=oss+alsa
[10:06] <dbernar1_> caine, you keeop doing this:)
[10:06] <rts23> hi folks if someone (e.g. my dad) is a complete beginner to linux and isn't very computer-savvy, where should he start?
[10:07] <caine> well i had to restart my comp because it froze and was saying that it couldnt grab my mouse
[10:07] <caine> oh and that a milicious person might be trying to get into my comp...
[10:07] <tiny_linux> installing mail server howto
[10:07] <yoor> okay, it works, I removed completely xine-ui and reinstalled it
[10:07] <tiny_linux> i really need it
[10:07] <angela_> anyone know how to aptget java and macomedia flash
[10:07] <yoor> thanks for your cooperation
[10:07] <yoor> ciao ciao
[10:07] <Jormundgand> Apparently Ubuntu's version of Xfce doesn't like my monitor going into standby and is outdated and requires a bugfix.
[10:07] <avinoam> woohoo
[10:07] <avinoam> i got it to work
[10:09] <tibal> Other question about Nautilus and gnome-volume-manager : automount now work in /media but still nothing appears in "My computer"
[10:09] <dbernar1_> Jormundgand, how are your fx and tbrd logos:-p?
[10:10] <Jormundgand> dbernarl: I used the "replace the icons" script, but About logos are still nasty.
[10:11] <tibal> is it a nautilus configuration ? or is it depending on Gnome I haven't ?
[10:11] <avinoam> anyone here use skype?
[10:11] <uga_> hola
[10:11] <tibal> avinoam, i have it
[10:11] <iceman> crap how to install java with aptget
[10:11] <avinoam> tibal i dkpged it and it won't start
[10:11] <uga_> someone speak spanish?
[10:11] <avinoam> it makes a beep and then nothing
[10:12] <linuxalien> I read the faq on root, but I have a program that even if you start it from a console in root, it asks for the root password later on in the config and it never seems to take...says it can't complete the command or something.  Any tricks to get around this?
[10:12] <caine> hey if the video on this page works for the rest of you then i want to know why it wont for me...http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=13559912&blogID=27789783&Mytoken=20050531131113
[10:12] <tibal> avinoam, where did you downloaded it ?
[10:12] <Maidenb> hi i have a urgent problem
[10:12] <Maidenb> please
[10:12] <Maidenb> helpme
[10:12] <avinoam> it's in Internet now
[10:12] <avinoam> after the dkpg
[10:12] <danko123456> !es
[10:12] <avinoam> i deleted the .deb after unpackaging
[10:12] <raDeon> Maidenb, you idiot, we aren't mind readers
[10:12] <raDeon> wtf do you want from us
[10:13] <Maidenb> ok
[10:13] <medkit> has someone of you ppl a printer attached to a router's parallel port and is printing via cups?
[10:13] <danko123456> Para los usuarios Ubuntu de habla hispa?a que requieren la ayuda, ensamble por favor el canal del #ubuntu-es
[10:13] <linuxalien> bbl gonna try something
[10:13] <tibal> I used the one provided by the "Ubuntu guide"
[10:13] <Hikaru79> Does Hoary come with OpenOffice 1.1 or 2.0? And if it comes with 1.1, is there a backport or anything for 2.0?
[10:13] <tibal> It works great
[10:13] <Maidenb> i have put aMule in sesion
[10:13] <avinoam> tibal what is the http://?
[10:14] <Maidenb> run at startup
[10:14] <danko123456> haha, nice to see you are back, radeon.
[10:14] <raDeon> :)
[10:14] <caine> does the video on this link work for any of you? http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=13559912&blogID=27789783&Mytoken=20050531131113
[10:14] <tibal> avinoam, http://ubuntuguide.org/#skype
[10:14] <Maidenb> please helpme
[10:14] <danko123456> lol....so blatant....
[10:14] <angela_> anyone know the command for aptitude install "for java"
[10:15] <ilbahr> anyone know about a good program where i can put comments in pdf file like the proffessional ADOBE ver
[10:15] <danko123456> Maidenb: first of all, I guess...what language do you speak?
[10:15] <avinoam> the ubuntu site is running so slowly!!!
[10:16] <Maidenb> nothing
[10:16] <St0n3-C0l> lol
[10:16] <St0n3-C0l> anyone with i810 video card ?
[10:16] <raDeon> LOL\
[10:16] <dbernar1_> Maidenb, please tell us, we think your first language is not english, is this true?
[10:16] <raDeon> what language do you speak? "nothing" LMAO
[10:16] <Maidenb> jaja
[10:16] <Maidenb> im argent
[10:16] <dbernar1_> ok, great...
[10:17] <avinoam> or maybe it's my internet connection
[10:17] <danko123456> Maidenb: Para los usuarios Ubuntu de habla hispa?a que requieren la ayuda, ensamble por favor el canal del #ubuntu-es  may help /join #ubuntu-es
[10:17] <raDeon> Maidenb, #ubuntu-es
[10:17] <caine> ok i really need help ppl...http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=13559912&blogID=27789783&Mytoken=20050531131113....does it work or not?
[10:17] <i3dmaster> St0n3-C0l: I am using i810 on board card
[10:17] <danko123456> if not, come back, and tell us if you want to add amule to your startup programs in gnome.
[10:18] <avinoam> damn it
[10:18] <St0n3-C0l> i3dmaster: please check glxinfo and temme if ur direct rendering is enabled or not
[10:18] <danko123456> caine, I think you screwed up the link, I dont think the link even works.
[10:19] <toto> Hi people! Anyone knows how to change global charset default in ubuntu?
[10:19] <dbernar1_> crap, my head is gonna explode.
[10:19] <angela_> i have apt-get ... cant get java ..
[10:20] <Maidenb> dont have anyone
[10:20] <Maidenb> please helpme here
[10:20] <i3dmaster> St0n3-C0l: direct rendering: Yes
[10:20] <St0n3-C0l> angela_: add lines of backports in /etc/apt/sources.list and then 'apt-get install sun-j2re'
[10:21] <Maidenb> please
[10:21] <dbernar1_> St0n3-C0l, well, he could do that...or, he could read www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java and try to learn how to do it... either way, he is likely to be back with more questions.
[10:21] <danko123456> okok, Ill help you.
[10:22] <St0n3-C0l> alright
[10:22] <Maidenb> system---preferences---sesions
[10:22] <angela_> no ... just on a small screen and can see ... 800x600 resolution sucks
[10:22] <danko123456> Maidenb, estas trying to addicionar amule to your startup programs?
[10:22] <Maidenb> yessssssssssssssss
[10:22] <Maidenb> but the splash screen stop
[10:22] <danko123456> ok, well, one s works...
[10:23] <gbic> Err http://backports.ubuntuforums.org hoary-backports/main Packages
[10:23] <gbic>   401 Authorization Required
[10:23] <geordi> hi guys, I'm back, I'm trying to get phpMyAdmin to see mysql
[10:23] <gbic> hmm, I have added the keys....anyone else having issues?
[10:23] <Vince> #ubuntu-meeting
[10:23] <St0n3-C0l> gbic: Use other mirros
[10:23] <danko123456> maidenb, please diga me quien es el command to start amule des un terminal.
[10:23] <geordi> I installed mysql, and I know it's running
[10:23] <gbic> I have others, just wondering why these ones are down
[10:23] <Maidenb> aMule
[10:23] <Maidenb> is the command
[10:24] <netgrabber> Hi, I try to print a mail from thunderbird, but I habe no blanks on the paper. I'm using the HP 710C printer. Printing from gedit is ok
[10:24] <St0n3-C0l> gbic: LOL I also don't know :P
[10:24] <thesaltydog> any chance to have an help on a bastard running fan on Pentium 4 desktop??
[10:24] <geordi> but, I get the "cannot load mysql extension please check php configuration", and it suggests I install a package called php-mysql, but I could find no such thing
[10:24] <St0n3-C0l> last time I accessed was giving 403 Forbidden
[10:24] <gbic> odd
[10:24] <gbic> maybe they are fixing it
[10:24] <Hikaru79> Does Hoary come with OpenOffice 1.1 or 2.0? And if it comes with 1.1, is there a backport or anything for 2.0?
[10:24] <gbic> who knows
[10:25] <St0n3-C0l> hikaru79: OpenOffice 1.13 maybe
[10:25] <Hikaru79> St0n3-C0l, darn =/ And no backport of 2.0 exists?
[10:25] <thesaltydog> why my fan i quite in windows and loud in Hoary?
[10:25] <St0n3-C0l> Hikaru79: There's openoffice2 available in the repos
[10:25] <Hikaru79> Oh, excellent! So it *is* there?
[10:26] <St0n3-C0l> Yeah, I think
[10:26] <danko123456> Maidenb: por favor open un terminal, and type in aMule and hit enter.
[10:26] <St0n3-C0l> just check Synaptic
[10:26] <Maidenb> ok
[10:26] <Maidenb> but
[10:26] <Maidenb> cant how to open terminal
[10:26] <medkit> i don't understand the gnome printer panel. I just want to add ipp://192.168.2.100/lp as the CUPS device url. What do i see on 127.0.0.1: the device url changed to http://192.168.2.100:631/lp
[10:26] <Maidenb> and how cant open chat in terminal
[10:26] <Shido> how do I make an iso bootdisk for my ubuntu?
[10:26] <medkit> crap
[10:27] <danko123456> Applications>System Tools>Terminal Maidenb.
[10:27] <avinoam> How the heck do I run synaptic?
[10:27] <angela_> freaqkin package manager
[10:27] <danko123456> medkit: means taht is the port they are talking on.
[10:27] <avinoam> Where is it?
[10:27] <caine> http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=13559912&blogID=27789783&Mytoken=2005053113111
[10:27] <danko123456> angela_: it is in gnome.
[10:27] <danko123456> kynaptic;)
[10:27] <danko123456> oh, well, whoever.
[10:27] <ilbahr> i do a lot of review work most of the material is in pdf format anyone know about a program that is similar to ADOBE in adding comments to pdf files
[10:27] <Maidenb> but the ubuntu stop in spashscreen
[10:28] <danko123456> avinoam: you hit System>Admin>Synaptic
[10:28] <medkit> danko123456, but :631 is not right. I have not entered it. It is wrong. the printer listens to 192.168.2.100/lp
[10:28] <avinoam> thanks
[10:28] <Hikaru79> St0n3-C0l, I can't check synaptic yet, I'm *considering* a move to Ubuntu from Gentoo
[10:28] <danko123456> Maidenb: so you cant get inside your gnome-session at all?
[10:28] <Maidenb> no
[10:28] <St0n3-C0l> Ahh..
[10:28] <St0n3-C0l> Nice Idea
[10:29] <angela_> ho to turn on root access .. to rewrite sources.list ?
[10:29] <medkit> danko123456, and not at 192.168.2.100:631/lp
[10:29] <Maidenb> y can put the username and pass
[10:29] <Maidenb> but in spashscreen stop
[10:29] <ralf> hi all
[10:29] <danko123456> I dont know then, medkit, i WOULD THINK IT LISTENS TO A PORT, NOT AN ip, sorry about the caps...
[10:29] <tanek> how do i get my volume manager-icon back on my gnome panel, it just disappeared and I cant get it by right click -> add item
[10:29] <ralf> the ubuntu dvd is also live?
[10:29] <rts23> hello, me again.  enyone know how to read Ebooks or where to get a reader for them?
[10:30] <danko123456> Maidenb: please try hitting the session bvutton before you sign in, and choose failsafe gnome. Once you are signed in, remove what you added to the session
[10:30] <Maidenb> ok
[10:30] <medkit> danko123456, the device listens to a queue. The queue is /lp.
[10:30] <Maidenb> thanks
[10:32] <danko123456> rts23: sudo aptitude install xchm
[10:32] <avinoam> hmm having trouble installing skype
[10:32] <avinoam> who was the skype user here?
[10:32] <XandriX> omg i want my cds that i order like the 12th of april
[10:32] <danko123456> rts23: a better question is how do I popen .chm files...:)
[10:32] <medkit> danko123456, you brought me an idea, i'll scan the router with nessus and look what ports are open. I cannot change the queue's name but maybe i can redirect a port...
[10:33] <danko123456> I m,ean, better, one that not only the person that knows which forrmat the eBook is in can answer;)
[10:33] <avinoam> danko are you on skype?
[10:33] <danko123456> medkit: unfortunately, 67% of teh time, that is all I am good for, giving ideas.
[10:33] <danko123456> avinoam: somewhat, never used it so far, waiting to find out.
[10:33] <avinoam> danko have you installed it?
[10:34] <danko123456> yeah, it is in my panel menu...
[10:34] <medkit> danko123456, sufficent most of the time.
[10:34] <gub> hi
[10:34] <avinoam> where did you get the lib?
[10:35] <anto9us> hello :)
[10:35] <avinoam> danko?
[10:35] <i3dmaster> St0n3-C0l: sorry got diverted. what are you asking?
[10:35] <danko123456> avinoam: no libs, I got the binary file from their site....please be more patient, I was doing something else.
[10:35] <avinoam> it's ok i thought maybe you didn't see the msg
[10:35] <danko123456> !hi anto9us
[10:35] <avinoam> anyone else here use skype?
[10:35] <ubotu> danko123456: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[10:35] <gub> I repacked the libx11-dev & libx11-6 packages with the keys patch (ctrl key bug...)  https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/attachment.cgi?id=2552.
[10:36] <avinoam> danko i did too but try running ot now does it open?
[10:36] <gub> I have called it libx11-6_6.8.2-20-1 ?
[10:36] <danko123456> yes, it does work, avinoam.
[10:36] <gub> is it a good version number ?
[10:36] <avinoam> that's odd mine won't open
[10:37] <janjan> hi guys, cdrecord -scanbus says can't read SCSI driver, I'm sure cd writer reads cds, any idea? Thank you
[10:37] <danko123456> no, yours iis odd, nmine is not..:-p
[10:37] <avinoam> hehe
[10:37] <avinoam> it just beeps and then nothing
[10:37] <danko123456> well, you did say it that way..
[10:37] <danko123456> :)
[10:37] <gub> any maintainer can help me
[10:37] <danko123456> I agree, they all can.
[10:37] <synd> how do you change the trashcan icons?
[10:38] <tanek> whats up with this: "http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)" ?
[10:38] <anto9us> gub: have you tried #ubuntu-dev?
[10:38] <dbernar1_> anto9us, have you>?
[10:39] <gub> ubuntu-dev ?
[10:39] <anto9us> dbernar1_: sorry, what do you mean?
[10:39] <St0n3-C0l> anyguy using i810 video card ??
[10:39] <dbernar1_> did you try that channel?
[10:39] <avinoam> wait how do i update the list in synaptic?
[10:39] <dbernar1_> avinoam, arent you using that card?
[10:39] <dbernar1_> you hit reaload
[10:39] <anto9us> dbernar1_: yes, with regard to oem stuff, why?
[10:40] <avinoam> i don't think it's getting that from the web
[10:40] <Fanskapet> ahh got my Radeon Mobility 9700 to work with ATI's official driver in xorg.. after much trouble :D
[10:40] <avinoam> i want more files to be available
[10:40] <avinoam> or can't i do that?
[10:40] <gub> anto9us: there is no ubuntu-dev channel
[10:40] <avinoam> i need libqt3c102-mt
[10:40] <dbernar1_> cause, try now, anto9us .  #ubuntu-dev
[10:41] <dbernar1_> but dont comment on your attempt here, please.
[10:41] <japoeder> This may be a really stupid question, but I am a complete noob when it comes to Linux.  Is there anything I need to do in order to burn dvds and/or iso images?
[10:41] <anto9us> where'd it go?
[10:41] <dbernar1_> anto9us, please dont send random ppl to channels...
[10:41] <jdodson> japoeder: if you have a cd/dvd burner and are using gnome 2.8 or higher, just right click the iso and select burn.
[10:41] <delltony> hi ihave a question not really sure how to go about resolving this issue so thats why i am here. for some reason my laptop seems to be running very slow. as if the harddrive is majorly fragmented but i thought linux didn't fragment. in any case i run top and don't see anything to my knowledge out of the ordinary. but again mys ystem seems to be lagging as if its having a hard time doing io request. any suggestions on this would be a
[10:41] <delltony> ppreciated big time.
[10:41] <i3dmaster> St0n3-C0l: what are you asking for ?
[10:41] <geordi> what package do I need to access mysql from a php script?
[10:41] <slawek> I've just found a directory /.Trash-root. du reports it eats up 6GB of space... can I delete it?
[10:42] <anto9us> aah.. ubuntu-devel
[10:42] <jdodson> slawek: sure.  its basically the trash bin for the root account.
[10:42] <i3dmaster> St0n3-C0l: ok. sorry was diverted to some other stuff
[10:42] <japoeder> how can I find out if I have gnome 2.8?
[10:42] <synd> .
[10:42] <synd> how do you change the trashcan icons?
[10:42] <dbernar1_> an
[10:42] <japoeder> I'm using ubuntu 5.04
[10:42] <i3dmaster> St0n3-C0l: how?
[10:42] <jdodson> japoeder: warty is gnome 2.8, hoary is gnome 2.10
[10:42] <jdodson> japoeder: you have gnome 2.10 you are fine:)
[10:42] <anto9us> dbernar1_: I thought they may have an answer to gubs question
[10:43] <avinoam> so the question is why doesn't skype work?
[10:43] <St0n3-C0l> i3dmaster: PVT :)
[10:43] <dbernar1_> anto9us, did you think about whether they want his question:-p no, dont worry, anyhow, I was told not to send ppl there.
[10:43] <japoeder> thanks
[10:43] <jdodson> japoeder: no problem.
[10:43] <anto9us> dbernar1_: seems on topic to me
[10:44] <dbernar1_> yeah, dont worry about it, Im not in the mood for explanations.
[10:44] <St0n3-C0l> i3dmaster: check your private window :)
[10:44] <Moonshine> Hi,
[10:44] <slawek> jdodson: but the curious thing is, how come it's so big.. it contans folders like bin, bin (copy), usr, usr (copy)... it seems that entire tree got copied to this trash two times!
[10:44] <i3dmaster> St0n3-C0l: check it out. just sent
[10:44] <St0n3-C0l> ahan
[10:44] <St0n3-C0l> thanks
[10:44] <St0n3-C0l> wait
[10:44] <ralf> the ubuntu dvd is also live? or it is used only to install?
[10:45] <slawek> jdodson: but thanks for the answer i'll delete it right away
[10:45] <raDeon> WHO CALLED ME
[10:45] <raDeon> WHAT U WANT
[10:45] <Moonshine> dose anybody know how to create MSDOS batch files under linux? You know an editor?
[10:46] <pestilence> Moonshine: vi?
[10:46] <francesco_> hello... Applications -> System Tools -> New login.... how can I get a new login WINDOWED?
[10:46] <danko123456> slawek, you know, its funny, all the girls ask me the same question........... woot....
[10:46] <anto9us> Moonshine: pico is quite easy but my preference is vi for simple text editing
[10:46] <St0n3-C0l> i3dmaster: again pvt :-D
[10:46] <i3dmaster> St0n3-C0l: sure np.
[10:46] <danko123456> francesco_: xnest?
[10:46] <St0n3-C0l> thanks :)
[10:46] <i3dmaster> St0n3-C0l: sent, check
[10:47] <St0n3-C0l> ahh
[10:47] <St0n3-C0l> wait
[10:47] <avinoam> anyone on skype?
[10:47] <Moonshine> you know one for KDE?
[10:47] <danko123456> !it
[10:47] <ubotu> unless you tell us what it is, don't be expecting much. Some of us are pretty good mind readers, but not THAT good.
[10:47] <slawek> danko123456: lol
[10:47] <slawek> :)
[10:47] <danko123456> yeah, you laugh now...but....
[10:47] <francesco_> danko123456: apt-getting it
[10:47] <francesco_> thanx
[10:47] <danko123456> one sec
[10:48] <danko123456> #ubuntu-it
[10:48] <St0n3-C0l> i3dmaster: Received, Thanks alot :)
[10:48] <i3dmaster> St0n3-C0l: yw. hope it can help
[10:48] <St0n3-C0l> yes
[10:48] <francesco_> danko thanx bye bye
[10:48] <anto9us> Moonshine: kate perhaps
[10:49] <delltony> anyone have a good site (please don't tell me google or the manual) that has a good explinatioin of using hpdarm to optimize a harddrive? for some reason my system is lagging big time and i dont' know why
[10:49] <St0n3-C0l> i3dmaster: Lets pray :)
[10:49] <St0n3-C0l> im coming :P
[10:50] <Fator_Dee> messing with hdparm is risky business
[10:50] <Moonshine> I have already written they in kate. I dont know in wich format ?
[10:50] <anto9us> delltony: have you eliminated other causes first, like filesystem usage?
[10:50] <delltony> in terms of lookign at top?
[10:50] <delltony> i'm still on the newbie side of town on alot of things so pardon my ignorance
[10:51] <abisen> could anybody help me install mplayer on my ubuntu box .. i am getting all sorts of dependencies error
[10:51] <medkit> note to self: never scan your own router with nesses where a simple port-scan is sufficent
[10:51] <abisen> like Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 is to be installed
[10:52] <Fator_Dee> delltony: if you don't know what you are doing, you can physically go havoc on you hd with hdparm :-\
[10:52] <Anubis> how to ensure the BEST sound queslity outta ubuntu?
[10:52] <pestilence> abisen: what repositories are you using
[10:52] <danko123456> DekaPink: ubuntu pets you right back:)
[10:52] <anto9us> delltony: yes, look at what's eating your processor, fam and gam are particular culprits for slowing systems down in my experience
[10:52] <pestilence> abisen: you don't need the marillat repositories
[10:52] <pestilence> abisen: it's in multiverse
[10:52] <delltony> all i have done on hdparm was d1 and c1 thats it
[10:53] <Anubis> yes I have ESD set up in gnomes mulitmedia selector
[10:53] <Moonshine> anto9us: I have already written they in kate. I dont know in wich format ?
[10:53] <Anubis> music loud sounds distrorted
[10:53] <abisen> pestilence, how'd you know that i have marillat
[10:53] <Anubis> VVIA chipset
[10:53] <abisen> pestilence, :) i'll comment that out
[10:53] <Anubis> should the volume levels remain at half?
[10:53] <pestilence> abisen: lucky guess
[10:53] <Anubis> and just increase amps?
[10:53] <delltony> anto9us, when i load top im looking for memory ususage right?
[10:53] <anto9us> Moonshine: text file for dos scripts with a .bat extension
[10:54] <abisen> pestilence, after uncommenting i need todo a apt-get update first right
[10:54] <pestilence> abisen: yes
[10:54] <anto9us> delltony: no, processor usage
[10:54] <danko123456> abisen: it is more likely in universe, I think......
[10:54] <Moonshine> yoo
[10:54] <slawek> danko123456: with such a TRAIT to carry... life must be interesting, for a lack of better word ;)
[10:54] <amichai> can someone tell me how to isntall java?
[10:54] <delltony> ok kget is using 89 percent
[10:54] <delltony> that sucks :(
[10:54] <delltony> maybe thats my roblem right there
[10:54] <danko123456> slawek, well, that was the last thing I had to say about that.....
[10:55] <abisen> pestilence, thanks it's downloading the files :) thanks
[10:55] <pestilence> danko123456: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/graphics/mplayer-586
[10:55] <danko123456> amichai: prolly, www.ubuntuguide.org/#jre and www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java can, likely.
[10:55] <pestilence> Package: mplayer-586 (1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6) [multiverse] 
[10:55] <danko123456> in multiverse, pestilence?
[10:55] <rgould> I have 2 GB of ram installed in my machine, but the top command states that total Mem is '906660k'. How do I verify that the system isn't using the other GB, and fix it if it isn't?
[10:55] <amichai> danko123456, i dont have that file in my repos. can u give me a link to good repos? the ubuntu guide repos broke my ubuntu.
[10:56] <dooglus> how do you use Xnest?  I see "Server is already active for display 0" when I try running it
[10:56] <danko123456> use the other link, then, amichai.
[10:56] <danko123456> dooglus: you go Apps>System Tools>new login in a nested window.
[10:57] <slawek> danko123456, poor you......
[10:57] <dooglus> danko123456: I've used Apps>System Tools>New Login before, before I installed Xnest
[10:57] <danko123456> slawek: why, I always think it is hot when they say that kind of thing....
[10:58] <danko123456> dooglus: well, start using the oen I said... now that you have xnest....or was that leading to something else?
[10:58] <avinoam> Last question
[10:58] <terje> rgould, cat /proc/meminfo
[10:58] <avinoam> How do i access my XP NTFS filesystem?
[10:58] <rgould> thanks. it states the same as top
[10:59] <i3dmaster> avinoam: you will need to verify if you kernel supports it nor not first
[10:59] <danko123456> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions avinoam.
[10:59] <pestilence> avinoam: mount -o ro /dev/hd?? /my/mount/point
[11:00] <danko123456> ugh, finally that guy ran out of his question, sheesh;)
[11:00] <avinoam> what is -o?
[11:00] <St0n3-C0l> hey
[11:00] <St0n3-C0l> i3dmaster
[11:00] <danko123456> pestilence: do you find it strange that an open source program is in multiverse?
[11:00] <i3dmaster> St0n3-C0l: so...
[11:00] <i3dmaster> St0n3-C0l: worked or still having problem?
[11:01] <St0n3-C0l> using ur xorg.conf and direct rendering is working but it's stuck on 680x480
[11:01] <Anubis> Rhythmbox needs skins
[11:01] <St0n3-C0l> 640x480
[11:01] <St0n3-C0l> how do I get into 1024x728
[11:01] <anto9us> rgould: try linuxinfo it's in universe repository
[11:01] <i3dmaster> St0n3-C0l: well you got to change the monitor type and freshrate, sync rate stuff
[11:01] <pestilence> danko123456: no.  it's not in debian-testing, so it wouldn't be in universe.
[11:01] <rgould> thanks, I will check it out
[11:02] <pestilence> danko123456: at least, from my understanding of universe
[11:02] <i3dmaster> i3dmaster: according to what you have
[11:02] <slawek> danko123456, well it's probably because i'm a bit tired and can't understand written english :D i'd better get some sleep
[11:02] <slawek> nevermind
[11:03] <St0n3-C0l> i3dmaster: I think refresh rate is okay but display thingie..
[11:03] <iamnow> hi
[11:03] <rgould> anto9us, linuxinfo says I have 0M RAM :)
[11:03] <winston> Hello
[11:03] <amichai> anyoen here using ubuntu guide's repos?
[11:03] <slawek> Anubis: you can't really skin rhythmbox, get Beep if you want a skinnable player
[11:03] <anto9us> rgould: hmmm... so much for that tool then
[11:03] <danko123456> pestilence: well here is some official understanding of the "components" http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/ .
[11:03] <iamnow> anyone own a canon mp360? do windows printer drivers work in wine?
[11:03] <i3dmaster> St0n3-C0l: X wouldn't accept the display mode without a correct monitor setting
[11:03] <danko123456> rgould sudo lshw
[11:04] <zoddan> hi
[11:04] <ubuntyler> hello
[11:04] <danko123456> rgould look into himem kernels.
[11:04] <zoddan> i have forgotten the default password for root :)
[11:04] <i3dmaster> St0n3-C0l: you can save the xorg.conf file and use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to probe your settings
[11:04] <zoddan> is it ubuntu ?
[11:04] <danko123456> zoddan what is asking for a password?
[11:04] <ubuntyler> i have a 300+ mz processor and 64 megs of RAM on my laptop...should i try ubuntu or will it be crazy sloww?
[11:04] <St0n3-C0l> i3dmaster: wait loggin from previous one
[11:05] <Selanit> Hiya, ppl.  Question: where can I find a list of the packages that are installed by default when using the Hoary amd64 install CD?
[11:05] <zoddan> what is the password ?
[11:05] <rgould> thanks danko123456 - lshw shows all the ram sticks are there and detected
[11:05] <zoddan> anyone ?
[11:05] <i3dmaster> i3dmaster: it will generate a new settings with the most correct settings for your hardware and then you can see what else you need to revise there from the backup file
[11:05] <JasonF> heh, apt-get remove kde* does a decent job of killing kubuntu-desktop package (i.e. removing it)
[11:06] <dbernar1_> rgould, well, I could have helped you with that, that danko123456 is a jerk, anyhow,...
[11:06] <pestilence> danko123456: don't know.  i had previously thought that "universe" was code for "everything that's in debian testing but not in the official ubuntu distro"
[11:06] <i3dmaster> JasonF: thought apt-get --purge remove kubuntu-desktop would just work....
[11:06] <St0n3-C0l> i3dmaster: yep done
[11:06] <St0n3-C0l> :)
[11:06] <St0n3-C0l> brb
[11:06] <pestilence> danko123456: debian free, of course.
[11:06] <i3dmaster> St0n3-C0l: nice
[11:06] <JasonF> i3dmaster: kubuntu-desktop is a meta-pacakge... doesn't remove all the ones it installs
[11:06] <dbernar1_> ubuntyler, try, use xfce not gnome.
[11:06] <JasonF> unless --purge includes deps
[11:07] <pestilence> danko123456: but in the way that it is stated on the website, i am sort of curious why it got put into multiverse
[11:07] <carthik> Any mutt users with multiple imap accounts here?
[11:07] <ubuntyler> yeah, will i need to download that or does it come standard?
[11:07] <danko123456> didnt I start the whole conversation cause of that, pestilence?
[11:07] <i3dmaster> JasonF: ah ... ok. I did not try it but I might be wrong. I rememeber I installed kubuntu by just using that meta pkg
[11:08] <danko123456> Selanit: got an answer yet?
[11:08] <Selanit> Nope.
[11:08] <Selanit> Google has failed me. ;_;
[11:09] <Selanit> I did find a list of all the packages on the LiveCD -- is that the same, though?
[11:09] <REBELinBLUE> hey
[11:09] <danko123456> Selanit: well, do this, ok? cat /etc/apt/sources.list and see the first line if it says anything about cd, then paste it here if it does say about cd, just the first line, I guess.
[11:09] <REBELinBLUE> anyone know why when I deleted google.src from ~/.mozilla/firefox/default.xxx/search/ it just comes back after a couple of restarts of firefox?
[11:10] <Selanit> danko123456: The reason I need a package list is that I'm having to manually download .debs and their dependencies from a Windows box ...
[11:10] <abarbaccia> Selanit, why do you have to do that?
[11:10] <abarbaccia> Selanit, that defeats the whole purpose of using a debian based system (apt-get is GOD)
[11:10] <Selanit> abarbaccia: because I have so far proven totally unable to persuade my crappy winmodem to work in Ubuntu.
[11:10] <Funzo> is ubuntu based off debian sarge?
[11:10] <conformistINgree> REBELinBLUE: I have no clue...
[11:11] <abarbaccia> Selanit, it may be worth just buying a linux supported one for like 20 dollars
[11:11] <dbernar1_> Funzo, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/ .
[11:11] <Funzo> thx
[11:11] <REBELinBLUE> Its annoying because there are two google search items in the drop down, thats the google UK one which I don't want
[11:11] <thundrcleeze> Why am I getting a 401 Authorization Required error when I try to refresh the ubuntu backports repos in apt?
[11:12] <Selanit> abarbaccia: I've ordered a cable modem.  It won't come till Friday.  In the meantime, I've got work to do which depends on a Linux environment.  So I'm trying to get by as best I can in the meantime.
[11:12] <[koji] > thundrcleeze: you need to point to mirrors
[11:12] <thundrcleeze> [koji] , eh?
[11:12] <abarbaccia> Selanit, no chance on just running a live CD or anything - or are other tools needed?
[11:12] <conformistINred> ohm, yeah, very annoying, I can imagine...
[11:12] <[koji] > thundrcleeze: refer to the backports forum its a sticky
[11:13] <thundrcleeze> [koji] , but it was working before.  Did they change it recently?
[11:13] <REBELinBLUE> well I wouldn't say very annoying ;) just bugging me cause I've already deleted it countless times
[11:13] <Selanit> abarbaccia: I need to install: cloop-utils, deborphan, and their assorted dependencies.  Right now I've got cloop-utils and deborphan, I'm just trying to figure out which deps I already have.
[11:13] <iamnow> anyone know of a way to get windows drivers for printers to work in ubuntu?
[11:14] <dbernar1_> thundrcleeze, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=37525&highlight=backports+moved .
[11:14] <thundrcleeze> thanks, dbernar1_, [koji] .
[11:14] <janjan> VETTO are you here?
[11:14] <dooglus> conformistINred: I tried using the 'new login' menu entry, and it's the same as it was before I apt-got xnest.
[11:15] <JasonF> my dpkg-configure dialog boxes are corrupted when I view them
[11:15] <conformistINred> REBELinBLUE: I think you need to stop deleting it, I think that is what is getting to you...
[11:15] <JasonF> like they are misaligned and include messed up characters
[11:15] <conformistINred> dooglus: "ew login in a nested window"
[11:15] <JasonF> is thisa known issue?
[11:15] <REBELinBLUE> LOL yeh that doesn't really solve the problem of the 2 google entries though
[11:15] <Selanit> abarbaccia: and no, the LiveCD doesn't include those.
[11:15] <conformistINred> janjan: we have not heard from a VETTO in a while...
[11:16] <dooglus> conformistINred: "ew"?  what's "ew"?
[11:16] <Selanit> Bah.  I suppose I could just download every dependency of cloop-utils and deborphan. >.<
[11:16] <conformistINred> it is when you dont have insert turned on your keyboard and you decide you wanna add something to what you have typed already,.
[11:17] <conformistINred> REBELinBLUE: yeah, well, I think the problem is you messing with it, instead just leaving it there....
[11:17] <conformistINred> I meanm, correct me if I am wrong...
[11:17] <conformistINred> selanit, told you what to do...
[11:17] <conformistINred> scroll up.
[11:17] <REBELinBLUE> again, leaving it there still means there are 2 menu entries
[11:17] <conformistINred> and?
[11:17] <conformistINred> I mean, do you mind them?
[11:17] <REBELinBLUE> its annoying...
[11:17] <rgould> yay! 2GB of ram. thanks everyone
[11:17] <REBELinBLUE> because it defaults to the wrong one
[11:18] <conformistINred> welcmope.
[11:18] <conformistINred> or something, anagram it.
[11:18] <REBELinBLUE> people moan about annoying little things like that in windows
[11:18] <conformistINred> ah, defaults to the wrong one, now that makes sense.
[11:18] <REBELinBLUE> well its just as annoying in linux ;)
[11:18] <conformistINred> just a sec.........
[11:20] <dooglus> REBELinBLUE: it cuts both ways:  in linux you can almost always get to the source code to fix it for yourself if you want to
[11:20] <dooglus> REBELinBLUE: but in Windows, there are so many people using it, that most of the things that need fixing have been fixed already....
[11:20] <iamnow> how do i print in linux with a windows driver?
[11:21] <St0n3-C0l> hey i3dmaster
[11:21] <St0n3-C0l> it's done ;)
[11:21] <REBELinBLUE> hey dooglus no need to have a go at me
[11:21] <dooglus> REBELinBLUE: for instance, I know in Linux if I spent enough time I could examine the kernel source and find out why Linux crashes if I move my mouse and download stuff at the same time
[11:21] <dooglus> REBELinBLUE: but in Windows I don't need to, cos the problem has already been fixed
[11:21] <St0n3-C0l> Thanks for your help, I did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it worked on command-line. Earlier I had some problems with it maybe because I was running in gnome-terminal
[11:21] <REBELinBLUE> just saying, people moan about little things like that in windows but when I try to get help with it in windows people tell me not to worry about it
[11:21] <dooglus> REBELinBLUE: I'm not having a go at anyone.
[11:21] <dbernar1_> dooglus, stupid sentence, shows you dont understand it, in fact.
[11:21] <dooglus> REBELinBLUE: I'm agreeing with you, in fact
[11:22] <dooglus> dbernar1_: sorry?  what do you mean?
[11:22] <REBELinBLUE> seems more like you're giving me a bit of a lecture ;)
[11:22] <dbernar1_> dooglus REBELinBLUE: it cuts both ways:  in linux you can almost always get to the source code to fix it for yourself if you want to
[11:22] <dbernar1_> dooglus REBELinBLUE: but in Windows, there are so many people using it, that most of the things that need fixing have been fixed already....
[11:22] <pestilence> dooglus: how do you explain bsod's, again?
[11:23] <dooglus> pestilence: BSODs are almost always a result of 3rd party drivers crashing, or so I'm lead to believe
[11:23] <Fator_Dee> dooglus: do you use an usb mouse?
[11:23] <REBELinBLUE> funny, the 1 BSOD I've had on windows in the last 4 years was because of faultly RAM, linux coped with it just as well by freezing up
[11:23] <dooglus> Fator_Dee: I do.
[11:23] <Fator_Dee> dooglus: do you have more than 2 ports?
[11:23] <REBELinBLUE> so the BSOD arguement really isn't a point anymore
[11:23] <pestilence> dooglus: regardless.
[11:23] <dooglus> Fator_Dee: I have lots of ports, but no USB ports.
[11:23] <Fator_Dee> dooglus: only 1 usb?
[11:24] <Fator_Dee> dooglus: do you have a spare ps2 mouse for test purposes?
[11:24] <dooglus> Fator_Dee: the 2 USB ports I have are on a pcmcia card, not on the computer.
[11:24] <dbernar1_> dooglus, that is what I meant by stupid sentence....completely not true.
[11:24] <dooglus> Fator_Dee: I have no PS2 mice, and no PS2 ports.
[11:24] <dooglus> Fator_Dee: it's a laptop
[11:24] <dbernar1_> dotn worry about it tho, I am doing something, cant explkain...
[11:24] <Fator_Dee> dooglus: have you tried to change to mouse between the ports?
[11:25] <dooglus> Fator_Dee: the kernel even crashes if I don't have the mouse plugged in.  It just takes longer.  The only way to get reliable operation is to unplug the USB2 card from the pcmcia socket
[11:25] <transgress> there an easy way to just reconfigure sound?  such as dpkg-reconfigure somethinghere?
[11:25] <rg58sma> i have a problem  with mseg close in a second
[11:25] <rg58sma> i cant open
[11:26] <Fator_Dee> dooglus: because my friend had a quite similar situation, but hes problem was the usb-camera and mouse, when he changed the port that he used for the camera, it didn't crash anymore
[11:26] <dooglus> dbernar1_: I'm not sure, but I don't think my sentence was untrue.  Windows has more users than Linux.  And Windows is compatible with more hardware than Linux.  You wouldn't disagree with either of those 2 sentences I trust?
[11:26] <rg58sma> i have a problem  with mseg close in a second
[11:27] <hajiki> anyone have problems getting sound from flash player in firefox?
[11:27] <dooglus> Fator_Dee: we were talking about this earlier - you were going to ask him how he fixed the problem.
[11:27] <conformistINred> do windows users know how to change anything on their system?
[11:27] <iamnow> whats the best p2p software?
[11:27] <Fator_Dee> dooglus: yes, and I asked him, he just changed the usb port that he used for his camera :-\
[11:27] <dooglus> conformistINred: it depends on the windows user I'd say
[11:27] <conformistINred> rg58sma: no, you have a problem with smeg
[11:27] <DekaPink> I do believe I must have done something truly stupid.
[11:27] <conformistINred> dooglus: Id say it depends on the license on the software he uses...
[11:27] <DekaPink> I no longer have normal access to my home/user folder. o.O
[11:27] <Fator_Dee> dooglus: do you have only 1 pcmcia slot?
[11:28] <conformistINred> DekaPink: do you have an idea why?
[11:28] <dooglus> Fator_Dee: yup
[11:28] <Fator_Dee> damn
[11:28] <DekaPink> conformistINred: None at all... it just says I don't have permission to use it... I need to sudo to do anything.
[11:28] <david_> what up
[11:28] <david_> just put linux on my comp
[11:28] <arcticblue> DekaPink: login as root and try chown-ing it
[11:29] <conformistINred> I hate when ppl leave a second before I geivce them heir solution, please note that all that are here...
[11:29] <conformistINred> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Firefox_:_FAQs_:_Uninstall_Search_Plugins
[11:29] <rg58sma> yes y have
[11:29] <conformistINred> david_: and? behaves?
[11:29] <Selanit> Okay, I think I've got everything.  Time to reboot and see if I'm right.
[11:29] <arcticblue> DekaPink: try: chown (username):(username) /home/(username)
[11:29] <conformistINred> yes, not with mseg like you were saying.
[11:30] <conformistINred> DekaPink: ok, well, do this...
[11:30] <arcticblue> DekaPink: and then: chmod 750 /home/(username)
[11:31] <conformistINred> chown -R dekaPink /home/dekaPink
[11:31] <dooglus> better, change the group, too:  chown -R dekaPink:dekaPink ~dekaPink
[11:31] <DekaPink> Thank you. :D
[11:32] <rg58sma> i have a problem  with mseg close in a second
[11:32] <conformistINred> where dekaPink is you user name.
[11:32] <conformistINred> dude, with smeg, please.
[11:32] <conformistINred> not mseg.
[11:32] <dooglus> and dekaPink is your group name :)
[11:32] <dooglus> what is this 'smeg' I keep hearing about?
[11:32] <conformistINred> dooglus: man, I dont know what you are talking about... or...
[11:32] <rg58sma> smeg menu editor
[11:32] <conformistINred> http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/
[11:33] <dooglus> conformistINred: you can use chown x:x to change the owner AND group to x
[11:33] <arcticblue> smeg...that sounds like some sort of foreign food
[11:34] <conformistINred> hm...ok, well, maybe he should do that, I really dont know... yeah, very much, I agree. /join #menueditor to speak with the devs they are nice.
[11:34] <dbernar1_> see what I mean, I hate when they ask, and leave in a second.
[11:34] <Gus_> hello
[11:34] <dbernar1_> yo, gus.
[11:35] <rgould> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smeg
[11:35] <dbernar1_> ok, Im out...
[11:35] <Gus_> i have trouble with my video card...
[11:35] <Gus_> it's an ATI Radeon IGP 340M
[11:35] <Gus_> it works well, except that 3D accel is not enabled
[11:35] <Gus_> (i score like 250 FPS in gears o.O)
[11:36] <Kartagis> later
[11:36] <arcticblue> are you using xorg?
[11:36] <Fator_Dee> Gus_: www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:37] <pixelmonkey> Anyone here know how to enable the "Hibernate this computer" option in the gnome logout menu?
[11:37] <Gus_> Fator_Dee thanks, i'll check it out, but i think it doesn't deal with my card
[11:38] <Fator_Dee> Gus_: if that doesn't work, I think you are out of luck :-|
[11:38] <Gus_> well
[11:38] <RuffianSoldier> which one of these do I need to get my Wifi working?: ftp://ftp.linux-wlan.org/pub/linux-wlan-ng/
[11:38] <arcticblue> i also have a question about hibernate.  it's enabled on mine, but when i use it, it just goes to a black screen and sits there.  i have to force it to power off and then it never acutally "hibernates"
[11:38] <Gus_> i have read this thing: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?threadid=328703
[11:39] <arcticblue> Gus_: are you using xorg?
[11:39] <Gus_> Fator_Dee but when i do what that guy says (replacing "ati" with "fglrx" and then restart X) it crashes, it says X is not able to restart
[11:39] <arcticblue> I have an ATI IGP card as well (it may be the same one; not sure off the top of my head).  Never worked with XFree, but works perfect in xorg
[11:39] <Gus_> arcticblue i don't really know actually, i'm blatantly new to this =D
[11:40] <Gus_> arcticblue can i ask you further questions in query, please ?
[11:40] <Fator_Dee> Gus_: wait a sec and I'll take a look
[11:40] <Gus_> okay Fator_Dee thanks a lot =)
[11:40] <aeris> Arcticblue: same thing happens when i hibernate in win32
[11:40] <aeris> i think its probably an issuse with BIOS power management stuff 1st of all
[11:40] <aeris> drivers 2nd
[11:41] <ghatak> Hi, during install. its stuck at "configuring apt...". Nothing going on. my system is not connected to network. what to do ?
[11:41] <RuffianSoldier> which one of these do I need to get my Wifi working?: ftp://ftp.linux-wlan.org/pub/linux-wlan-ng/
[11:41] <Funzo> how do I install kde alongside gnome?
[11:42] <RuffianSoldier> apt-get install kde?
[11:42] <Fator_Dee> Gus_: paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log on www.pastebin.com there could be some advices on the problem
[11:42] <St0n3-C0l> Kwifi
[11:42] <St0n3-C0l> i think
[11:42] <Gus_> Fator_Dee okay i will
[11:43] <dbernar1_> Funzo, sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop is the best way to do it, afaik.
[11:43] <St0n3-C0l> RuffianSoldier: apt-get install kwifi (If u looking to install some wifi thing)
[11:44] <Funzo> but that will do it alongside or instead?
[11:44] <St0n3-C0l> alongside
[11:44] <St0n3-C0l> it'll give u options on bootup
[11:44] <RuffianSoldier> St0n3-C0l, how can I do taht if i have no internet...........
[11:44] <St0n3-C0l> to choose kde or gnome
[11:45] <St0n3-C0l> RuffianSoldier: Check if u using Kubuntu ... I think Kwifi is installed bydefault
[11:46] <Gus_> Fator_Dee  i have pasted things there, name is Gus
[11:46] <RuffianSoldier> brb
[11:47] <iratsu_> how does one get ADSL internet to work under ubuntu
[11:47] <dbernar1_> Funzo, it will install it alongside, as St0n3-C0l said, at login(the login screen) you have a session button, which you cabn use to chose what to log into.
[11:47] <dbernar1_> iratsu_, sudo pppoeconf
[11:47] <flipy> is there any package for mldonkey 2.5.30-x?
[11:48] <iratsu_> dbernar1_: ok, that`s included on the ubuntu cd
[11:48] <Fator_Dee> Gus_: have you tried it without those two options that are now commented aout?
[11:48] <dbernar1_> iratsu_, what? you mean is that included?
[11:48] <ghatak> flipy: huh, compile ur own man. only takes 15 mins
[11:48] <dbernar1_> how about you open a terminal and tell me...
[11:49] <flipy> ghatak: well ok, seems a good point but it would be better if it were a package :)
[11:49] <Gus_> under the ATI driver ? i commented them out to see if it was the driver in quotes or the options which was messing things up
[11:49] <iratsu_> dbernar1_: i mean is the conf program included with the cd?
[11:49] <Gus_> i left them uncommented after i realized it was the driver...
[11:49] <dooglus> when I run Xnest, how can I tell it to accept connections from localhost?  Or tell it to run a window manager?  Or tell it to start up with an xterm running?  Or anything that might make the resulting session usable?
[11:49] <ghatak> flipy: well i am sure there will be one out there. tried googling?
[11:49] <Fator_Dee> Gus_: ok
[11:49] <JohnDong> hey, any devs in here?
[11:49] <flipy> ghatak: i've tried. debir nor ubuntu have any
[11:50] <JohnDong> can someone tell me the deal with binfmt-support?
[11:50] <conformistINred> flipy, not in mainstream repos, looked in backports?
[11:50] <JohnDong> why 1.2.4's getting pulled from repos?
[11:50] <flipy> ghatak: the closest is 2.5.28
[11:50] <flipy> conformistINred: backports?
[11:50] <St0n3-C0l> flipy: http://backports.ubuntuforums.org
[11:50] <St0n3-C0l> flipy: Provide packages updates and some new extra packages
[11:51] <flipy> ok i see
[11:51] <flipy> thanks guys
[11:51] <conformistINred> welcome...
[11:51] <St0n3-C0l> np
[11:51] <dabugas> hi
[11:51] <Fator_Dee> Gus_: and are you sure that log is from the time when X did not start?
[11:51] <dabugas> has anyone installed kde from a kubuntu cd on top of ubuntu?
[11:51] <ghatak> ghatak: get that one. if u look at release notes of mldonkey. there are not any major changes
[11:51] <conformistINred> iratsu, he told you, open a terminal, and type that in.
[11:51] <ghatak> ooppps it was for flipy
[11:52] <snowseal> hi
[11:52] <conformistINred> hi, snowseal.
[11:52] <St0n3-C0l> dabugas: has anyone installed kde from a kubuntu cd ?
[11:52] <snowseal> im recompiling the kernel, is there some default .config for ubuntu 5.04 somewhere to find for me?
[11:52] <Gus_> Fator_Dee no. it is the logs i opened just now, and in the meanwhile i restarted once correctly (since i am able to talk to you right now =D)
[11:52] <Gus_> the 3 or 4 previous times it crashed though
[11:52] <JohnDong> snowseal: it's in /boot
[11:53] <JohnDong> config-*
[11:53] <snowseal> k ty
[11:53] <JohnDong> but don't bother using it; it requires a Debian-stype initrd
[11:53] <dabugas> St0n3-C0l: i have a warty somewhat upgraded to hoary. i got a kubuntu cd but i get a GnuPG authorization error.
[11:53] <runedude> What program can I use to burn an ISO to a cdwriter (ubuntu ofcourse)
[11:53] <JohnDong> snowseal:make sure you compile filesystems, IDE controllers, etc builtin
[11:53] <dabugas> St0n3-C0l: when i pop it in (both apt-cdrom add & synaptic)
[11:53] <joh> runedude: cdrecord
[11:53] <snowseal> aha, thats why its so slow. im runninga  386 config.
[11:53] <runedude> err, ok, and is there any good sites about cdrecord?
[11:54] <runedude> Or whats the syntax to burn the ISO?
[11:54] <Fator_Dee> Gus_: sorry, but I can't get a crasp on what's wrong :-\
[11:54] <snowseal> JohnDong,  thank you, i'll just change the processor type ;) averything is working fine atm
[11:54] <St0n3-C0l> dabugas: so what u want to do with kubuntu cd ?
[11:54] <Fator_Dee> and Im feeling quite sleepy already so my advices wouldn't be that good :-p
[11:54] <Gus_> Fator_Dee don't be sorry, thanks for trying to elp =)
[11:54] <Gus_> help*
[11:54] <joh> runedude: man cdrecord? or if you want to do it graphically, you can use k3b, gtoaster, xcdroast, etc.
[11:54] <St0n3-C0l> try kubuntu-desktop
[11:54] <runedude> hmm, i only have a terminal :)
[11:55] <joh> runedude: ok, cdrecord -scanbus then ;)
[11:55] <runedude> ok :)
[11:55] <dabugas> St0n3-C0l: add packages from it. kde-core (it's a metapackage) for starters. the problem is that i can't add it to the /etc/apt/sources.list because of an authorization problem.
[11:55] <St0n3-C0l> runedude: how bout man cdrecord ?
[11:55] <joh> runedude: you might want to do that as root.
[11:55] <St0n3-C0l> ohh..
[11:55] <runedude> I did.
[11:55] <runedude> cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'.
[11:55] <runedude> cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=help'.
[11:55] <St0n3-C0l> u checked md5sum ?
[11:55] <dabugas> St0n3-C0l: "Signature verification failed for: /media/cdrom0/dists/hoary/Release.gpg"
[11:56] <joh> runedude: try cdrecord dev=ATA -scanbus
[11:56] <winston> is there a how to out there for noobs who want to learn how to install software? I just dont get apt-get!
[11:56] <dabugas> St0n3-C0l: how do i do that?
[11:56] <joh> runedude: hmm, same problem here :P
[11:56] <St0n3-C0l> md5sum kubuntu*.iso
[11:56] <runedude> hm
[11:56] <joh> runedude: I think it's a problem with the latest cdrecord package.
[11:56] <fabiob> Hello, is there a workaround to that breezy bug that messes up the keys accelerators? (I know, "don't use breezy")
[11:56] <runedude> its trying to open up to my hard drive :O
[11:56] <runedude> cdrecord: Device or resource busy. Cannot open '/dev/hda'. Cannot open SCSI driver.
[11:56] <runedude> :O
[11:57] <joh> runedude: yeah, I posted a bug about that a long time ago which got fixed. Seems it has returned :p
[11:57] <runedude> hmm
[11:57] <runedude> Any other options for me:)
[11:57] <joh> runedude: try scanning the bus with cdrdao then
[11:57] <runedude> ok
[11:57] <joh> runedude: i.e. sudo cdrdao scanbus
[11:58] <runedude> should I apt-get that package first? :P
[11:58] <joh> probably
[11:58] <runedude> k :)
[11:58] <runedude> ATA:1,0,0            HP      , CD-Writer+ 9500b, 1.06
[11:58] <runedude> wee
[11:58] <joh> then you can do something like: cdrecord dev=<result of scanbus> speed=22 -dao -eject file.iso
[11:59] <runedude> k.
[11:59] <ante> Is there a way to change the looks of rhythmbox? Maybe give it a xmms lookalike skin?
[11:59] <T5> why?
[11:59] <joh> runedude: as root ofcourse.
[12:00] <runedude> yep