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mrmanic_tomas_: what is the error?12:01
amuif ztonzy comes back his new blender.deb is ready for testing 12:02
_tomas_Error al intentar abrir el archivo12:02
Curalton_tomas_: #kubuntu.es or so?12:03
Curaltonor... maybe apt-get install unrar12:03
xxenonalt-tab not working in breezy...known problem ?12:03
Curaltonbreezy is debian/sid extreme edition atm :)12:04
_tomas_XDD i'm alone in kubuntu.es12:04
mrmanic_tomas_: es un archivo rar?12:04
_tomas_sip, un rar12:05
_tomas_he provado con tres12:05
_tomas_y todos el mismo error12:05
_tomas_ya he hecho el apt-get install unrar12:05
_tomas_y sin problema12:05
_tomas_per no descomprime12:05
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dabugashas anyone installed kde from a kubuntu cd on top of ubuntu?12:06
amuyep12:06
dabugasi have a problem with the gnupg authorization12:07
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dabugasE: Sub-process gpgv returned an error code (2)12:07
dabugasW: Signature verification failed for: /media/cdrom0/dists/hoary/Release.gpg12:07
mrmanic_tomas_: el rar es completa?12:07
dabugas(sorry for the minor flood)12:07
amupls english or i start with german :) 12:07
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mrmanicfine with me.  my spanish is terrible anyway12:08
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dabugasamu: help, pleeease :)12:08
mrmanic_tomas_: your rar file may be corrupt12:08
=== dabugas is desperate
amudabugas: you use hoary? 12:09
nmorseWhile we're speaking in foreign languages, avez-vous compris?12:09
dabugaswell, warty somehwat upgraded to hoary12:09
dabugasi've updated the apt-get, dpkg, etc & from what i understand the authorization procedures have changed12:09
amudabugas: and it's a full upgraded hoary? 12:09
dabugasnope12:09
dabugaspartly12:09
dabugasjust the programs i use regularly & their dependencies12:10
amudabugas: that's it, apt 0.6 has such features and it sounds for me that you mixed the things12:10
dabugasapparently this guy ( http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hoary/MD5SUMS.gpg ) has the same problem as me. he solved it but doesn't sufficiently explain12:10
dabugasany ideas for a solution?12:10
amuwhich apt version you running? 12:10
dabugasapt 0.6.35 12:10
dabugasi got the url wrong before: it's THIS guy --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2652912:11
amucan you run once: apt-get -o Debug::pkgAcquire::Auth=yes update12:11
amuforums :) who cares about forums :)12:12
dabugasyeah12:12
dabugasseems to run ok12:12
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amuyou CD is in ? jusr run next test with apt-get -o Debug::pkgAcquire::Auth=yes upgrade12:12
amus/jusr/just12:13
dabugasit's doing a lot of stuff12:13
amusounds good 12:14
dabugasif this works i'll kiss you12:14
dabugasin a manly way, of course12:14
amuyou run a proxy ? 12:15
amuhehe12:15
dabugasheh. no.12:16
dabugasok, the apt-get command ended with me needing to download 348MB which i can't on 33.6 modem12:16
dabugasi closed that and ran synaptic to add the cdrom (too bored to use apt-cdrom)12:16
amuthan insert you cd, run a apt-cdrom add and rerun the commands 12:16
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amuloks like while upgrading from warty ( there was no auth this time ) your upgrade fails in some cases12:17
dabugascan i flood 8 lines or so here or shall i paste them in priv?12:17
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amubetter private12:18
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amu... and since hoary we use apt & auth ...12:18
Tm_Tnoooo!!12:19
Tm_T:/12:19
Tm_TI hate this12:19
Tm_TI lost my modified icons in upgrade12:19
psnTm_T: put them in thier own theme next time12:20
dabugasamu: any ideas?12:20
amu..continue in private12:20
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Tm_Tpsn: own iconset, yes, next time =)12:22
Tm_Thmh, now I just need to find a way to get my modified icons back12:22
FiretechTm_T: there is no way.12:23
Tm_TFiretech: there is, IF there's backup12:23
Tm_TI'm not sure12:23
Tm_Tor I do them again12:24
Tm_T\o/12:24
Tm_TI got backup :p12:24
FiretechI always do my modifications to linux in other folders, and if I have to overwrite files, I mostly symlink...12:26
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Firetechsomeone want's a sauna? My CPU is heating up... 61 degrees Celcius :)12:27
Firetech*Celsius12:27
sirukincook some grill cheese with that sucker12:27
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sirukinmust be a p412:28
nate__p4 pwns all12:28
nate__except everything amd12:28
FiretechP4 Celeron12:28
nate__ooooh, the pimp processor12:28
Firetechcompiling amarok12:28
nate__celeron12:28
pointwoodanyone know how to switch between tabs in Konsole?12:29
nate__pointwood, click the tab12:29
Firetechnate__:  no bullying, I had to get a new CPU that wasn't prescott... the only one I found was a Celeron12:29
pointwoodwith a keyboard shortcut :)12:29
Firetechpointwood: shift + arrow keys12:29
pointwoodsorry for not being specific enough12:29
nate__Firetech, I think intel chips are funny, i own all intel, wish i had amd12:30
nate__pointwood, hehehe, i thought i'd be a smart-alec :)12:30
pointwoodthx, not sure why that didn't quite work just before, must have been something with focus :)12:30
FiretechI'm saving to buy an Acer Ferrari later.12:30
pointwoodnate__: bastard! :p12:30
nate__Firetech, oooh, smokin, how is the lcd on that?12:30
FiretechI don't know12:30
Firetechbut the computer specs are hot.12:31
FiretechAMD 64 etc.12:31
nate__oh, that'd be critical for me.  Powerful laptops are junk without a great lcd12:31
taomaster69hey- i'm to this o/s and i need to know how to install amsn12:31
nate__ghosting gives the same effect as poor hardware12:31
KaiL_nate__: at least the resolution is more than ok12:32
nate__the refresh rate is what you wanna look at :)12:32
FiretechI think the LCD is quite good for that price12:32
Firetechwww.acer.com12:32
nate__KaiL_, true, but i'd buy that laptop for gaming, and in gaming the refresh rate of the lcd is critical12:32
nate__I own an Acer Travelmate 803Lci12:33
FiretechI have a Travelmate 4501LCi behind me.12:33
KaiL_nate__: gaming on laptops? bad idea12:33
FiretechBut that one belongs to my mother12:33
FiretechKaiL_: there are gaming laptops12:34
nate__KaiL_, I wouldn't buy it if not for gaming, but gaming laptops are great if you have a great lcd to play on, then its just like playin on a CRT.12:34
Firetecha friend of mine bought a laptop specifically designed for gaming...12:35
nate__yeah, great for LAN parties, i hear12:35
nate__www.voodoopc.com12:35
nate__they have great hardware12:35
KaiL_the technical data of that Acer laptop looks good, but this Ferrari-design is nothing for me12:35
nate__and a nice website too :)12:35
Jeezishow would i get pictures from a digital camera i have hooked up via us?12:35
Jeezis*usb12:35
nate__http://www.voodoopc.com/sellpage.aspx?productID=106912:36
nate__check that one out12:36
aseigothey are in Calgary, where i live12:38
aseigothe owner is a dink, but a good businessman12:38
FiretechI think he bought a voodoopc...12:38
=== aseigo knew them when they were pretty much a local only biz.
dabugasanyone in for a flame while i'm waiting for kubutu-desktop to install?12:38
KaiL_nate__: *brrrr*, this color...12:38
Firetechmy friend that is.12:38
Firetechnot sure though12:39
aseigodabugas: your momma's so ugly that when they turn down the lights in the theatre everyone claps ... how's that?12:39
aseigodabugas: or was that not what you had in mind? ;)12:39
dabugasaseigo: i was hopping for something more along the lines "i remember when didn't have disks. just tapes. i remember the amstrad you fool. ahahahahahahahahah!" that sort of thing12:40
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nate__KaiL_, what about the color?  You can choose em, you know12:41
KaiL_I only looked at the image12:41
Firetechnate__: All Acer Ferrari models (3000-3400) has a 15.0" SXGA+ TFT LCD12:42
nate__KaiL_, click on the colors, it might be on the next page12:42
nate__$5749.30 would be the price of what i'd like in the laptop12:42
nate__Firetech, 17" WSXGA+ 1680X105012:42
KaiL_wow12:42
nate__on the voodoopc envy12:42
nate__71712:43
Firetech15" is ok for me12:43
nate__makes the ferrari look like a noob12:43
Firetecha 17" laptop is too big to carry around...12:43
nate__;P12:43
FiretechI have 17" at my WS.12:43
nate__yeah, its pretty big, but way smaller than a complete desktop system12:43
nate__Firetech, its widescreen 17" though, on the voodoopc one12:44
FiretechWSXGA = Widescreen?12:44
nate__I believe so, yes12:44
nate__let me google :)12:44
nate__Short for Wide SXGA, WSXGA is a resolution  that supports  1600 by 900 pixels  or 1600 by 1024 pixels.12:45
dabugasthe kubuntu-desktop metapackage is removing some of the openoffice stuff12:45
dabugasshould i worry horribly?12:45
nate__the voodoo puts the smack down, i'm definitely a fan of them :)12:45
Firetechtime for me to go to bed...  the time is 12:45 AM, and I'll be picked up from my home at 9:45 AM tomorrow morning...12:45
nate__Firetech, g'nite euro :)12:46
FiretechSwede, to be more specific12:46
nate__I saw Star Wars III last night12:46
=== Firetech likes KDE 3.4.1 and amaroK 1.2.4 with aKode support :)
FiretechamaroK is "manually" compiled12:47
nate__Firetech, ahhh. whatever, you're all a bunch of weirdo's, only americans are normal, and by americans i mean the arrogant self-centered view that the US is the only country in america12:47
FiretechI can't say anything about that, Sweden is neutral :P12:47
nate__lol12:47
nate__go hide in your mountains, swede-boy :)12:48
Firetechjust kidding, I can say whatever I want.12:48
FiretechI'm from southern sweden, It's totally flat here12:48
nate__a likely story12:48
nate__go yodel or something ;P12:49
Firetechtoo many americans mix up Sweden and Swizerland...12:49
Firetechboth are neutral though...12:49
nate__meh, thats what i was thinkin12:49
dabugasupdate done; i'm restarting. if i don't show up again it either didn't work. or i fell asleep.12:49
dabugasg'night12:49
Firetechand both are pronounced Swi...12:49
nate__later12:50
nate__Firetech, see, thats my problem, you guys should change your name so i don't get as confused12:50
nate__Firetech, all the world should bow to the Americans' (Self-centered view) will12:50
FiretechSweden lies between Norway (OIL!), Finland (Nobody can understand their language) and Denmark.12:51
nate__ouch, that sucks12:51
uniqamerica, foreign country 1, foreign country 2, foreign country 3 :)12:51
Firetechnah, all three are ok12:51
Firetechnorwegians are most easy to understand :P12:51
=== uniq is from norway.
nate__no they aren't!  bow to my will!12:52
uniqand i get visitors from sweden tomorrow.12:52
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Firetechuniq: we want the union back ;)12:52
Firetechno we don't.12:52
uniqactually they are military too :)12:53
NTolerancesweet, KDE 3.4.1 somehow makes the GAIM systray icon transparent12:53
nate__NTolerance, so does xfce12:53
FiretechNTolerance: why don't use kopete in KDE?12:53
nate__*cough kopete sucks cough*12:54
nate__bow to my will!12:54
nate__sorry, i'm tired and moronic today12:54
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NTolerancei don't use xfce12:54
crimsunkonver*!@ is pretty awful, too. Long live btlbee and irssi!12:54
NTolerancei have heard bad things about kopete and already had a gaim config, so that's what i use12:55
nate__NTolerance, you should try xfce, its pretty nice, very configurable12:55
NTolerancei'm addicted to baghira for KDE12:55
nate__ahhh, i see12:55
nate__never tried baghira, what are its' features?12:56
sander__Konversation is nice. If only the inline spellchecker would stay on by default.12:56
sander__Anyone tried the 3.4.1 debs yet? Any breakage?12:56
nate__sander__, konversation was my irc prog of choice until it started making xfce freak out12:56
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Firetechnate is too self-centered.12:57
nate__nooooo!!!! not my umbilical cord!12:57
psnnate__: hmm in what way does it make xfce freak out?12:57
nate__Firetech, sure am!  I'm american! bow to my WILL!!!!!12:57
NTolerancenate__: it's a Mac OSX theme for KDE, looks very nice...very configurable, has some nice mouseover highlighting that other themes don't have12:57
nate__psn, it makes my background disappear and i can no longer use the right click menu on the desktop.12:57
NTolerancesander__: i am running 3.4.1, no problems so far12:57
=== Firetech bows to his own will
Firetechwile writing a will12:58
Firetech*while12:58
sander__nate__: Bummer.12:58
Firetechand talking to Will.12:58
nate__sander__, exactly, konversation rules, too bad it won't work with xfce, which i'm addicted to12:58
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Firetechthe only problem I got with 3.4.1 is that JuK broke.12:58
FiretechI'm using amaroK again  instead.12:59
NTolerancei like konversation12:59
nate__luuuuuke, uuussseeee the fooooorrrrccceee12:59
Firetechgnite world.12:59
psnnate__: ah sounds like the desktop crashes... can't come up with a reason though, it doesn't do anything special with the desktop12:59
FiretechI like KVIrc12:59
Firetechit even works in gnome :)12:59
sander__Konversation weened me off my last GTK app. Not that I have anything against them or anything. :)12:59
nate__psn, yeah, i had no idea either, so i stopped using it, xchat works ok, just its systray plugin works very poorly01:00
nate__Firetech, gnite swedish mountain yodeler who bows to my will!01:00
Firetechsweden != switzerland01:00
nate__Firetech, yodeleyhihoo!?01:01
psnnate__: I might take a look sometime if I feel like installing xfce01:01
nate__psn, xfce is very configurable, i definitely like it.  Give it a shot, worst case scenario you just uninstall it :)01:01
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psnnate__: well I'm a kde devel :)01:02
Firetechbut, as long as you americans think that, noone will attack sweden, too many americans has got secret money in strange swizz banks.01:02
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nate__psn, consider yourself excluded :) lol01:02
Firetechpsn: if you try xfce you might become a xfce devel instead? :P01:03
nate__Firetech, yodel? yodelayhihoo? ahhhh, yodel yodel!01:03
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nate__Firetech, do you wear leiderhosen?01:03
Firetechno01:03
psnFiretech: not likely /me and  gtk doesn't agree01:03
FiretechI wear normal pants.01:03
nate__Firetech, awww, you just ruined my mental image01:03
nate__Firetech, a guy typing on irc while yodeling and wearing clogs with leiderhosen01:04
=== Firetech barks, yawns, and goes to bed.
Firetechnot really...01:04
nate__do all the swede's wear clogs?01:04
FiretechFiretech, a typical Swedish computer nerd.01:04
nate__Firetech, oh, so you DO wear clogs, ok01:04
nate__lol, sorry, i think this is soooo funny :)01:05
psnFiretech: well then I'm atypical01:05
Firetechno swedes wear it, an mostly noone in swizerland either.01:05
nate__psn, you wear leiderhosen?01:05
psnnate__: clogs now and then... well the modern version of them at least01:06
NTolerancedoes anyone here use the keyboard shortcuts for kmix?01:06
Firetechdrain bamaged. can't think of any funny american prejudices...01:06
nate__psn, i'm glad you can admit it.  admitting is the first step to recovery01:06
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nate__Firetech, we all carry guns01:06
psnnate__: I use them at work... which isn't all that uncommon01:07
NToleranceguns are expensive :(01:07
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nate__psn, would you jump off a bridge if everyone else at work did?01:08
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nate__NTolerance, we shoot people for them, its cheaper that way01:08
FiretechI saw an episode of Extreme Makeover Home edition some weeks ago... Some guy had been shot on the street, then the shooter had come forward to him and said: "Oh, sorry, you were the wrong guy. Can I help you in any way?"01:08
Firetechthat's just plain sick.01:08
nate__thats the american way!  well, at least the texans01:08
psnnate__: no but wearing them is mandatory....01:08
Firetechthis was in the slum of LA I think.01:09
nate__psn, its a sad day for the swedes......01:09
nate__Firetech, must have been a traveling texans.  they're like cockroaches, scattering from place to place01:09
Firetechpsn: are you from swizerland?01:09
psnFiretech: nope sweden01:10
Firetechwearing clogs?01:10
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psnFiretech: I said the modern version of them01:10
Firetechnate__: I can tell you that psn isn't very typical.01:10
Firetechyou meanm like... a belt?01:11
psnFiretech: i don't work in IT so probably not in this channel01:11
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=== ..[topic/#kubuntu:amu] : http://www.kubuntu.org/~amu/kubuntu-5.04.1-i386-live.iso | KDE 3.4.1: deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary-updates main | Unofficial Kubuntu FAQ http://kudos.berlios.de/ | breezy broken for g++ and dbus fun
Firetechpsn: where in Sweden do you live?01:11
nate__psn, you devel for kde but don't work in IT?  what is sweden coming to!?!?!01:11
psnFiretech: Kumla01:12
Firetechpsn: the prison or the city? ;)01:12
psnFiretech: outside the walls :)01:12
Firetechaww.01:12
amuplease test the new hoary liveCD with kde 3.4.1 01:13
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FiretechI'm from a village outside Lund.01:13
kpanichey guys, do you know if there is qtparted in kubuntu live powerpc?01:13
amukpanic: no, it isnt 01:13
philipacamaniacI've successfully upgraded to KDE 3.4.1 (on my home computer) via the cdrom I made earlier.01:14
Firetechamu: /me is loading the damned CD, then :P01:14
amuphilipacamaniac: cool01:14
kpanicamu, k :( it could be a great add if one wants to maintain his macosx01:14
Firetechgoodnight world of linux.01:15
Firetechand the rest of it too.01:15
amuFiretech: thx would be fine, for me it works, before annouceing to to everywhere i need min. a sec. test :)01:15
philipacamaniacamu: I can download the livecd as early as tomorrow and test it01:15
amukpanic: there are some plans for it for the next release01:15
nate__amu, run and hide!  we have 2, COUNT IT! 2 SWEDES IN HERE!!!!01:15
nate__dontpanic01:16
nate__Don't Panic01:16
Firetechamu: I wont tet it before tomorrow.01:16
amuphilipacamaniac: that would be great, thanks a lot  01:16
Firetechrun and hit, ONE nate__ in here!01:16
Firetech*hide01:16
amunate__: sorry i cant find the point :) 01:16
FiretechI'm too tired to chat.01:16
nate__lol01:16
nate__or run and hit01:16
kpanicamu, cool. very good. thanks and keep up the good work. ok, I'll take another path, I want to use GNU/Linux :)01:16
kpanicbye people01:16
kpanicnite01:16
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nate__thats fine too :)01:17
Firetechgood night, for the fifty eleventh time.01:17
amun8 Firetech 01:18
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nate__i'm tired01:18
nate__i'm gonna go lay down01:18
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_pedrohi @ll out there01:25
_pedroyou are very quiet01:27
Tm_Tyup01:27
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_pedrosomebody from spain?01:33
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peterjhiya02:21
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peterjanyone here could help me with probably a silly problem i got02:23
peterjas far as i could understand from the documentation i should be able to run kynaptic as im the first and only user on this system except root but i am not, since i'm not in the sudoers group02:24
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Tm_Teeh?02:28
Tm_Tpeterj: as default, all are in sudoers list02:28
Tm_TI mean all02:28
mrmanicI got rid of that rootless thing.  I like having root.02:29
crimsunyou had root all along02:29
Tm_Tyup02:30
Tm_Tit's just "hidden"02:30
Tm_T"sudo passwd root" help ;p02:30
mrmaniccrimsun: I know, but people call it rootless cause you can't log in as root or whatever.02:33
crimsunmrmanic: they like the warm 'n fuzzies02:33
othernoobmrmanic: doesnt sudo -i log you in as root ?02:34
mrmaniccrimsun: I don't know what you mean by that, but whatever it is it makes me feel kind of uncomfortable.02:34
mrmanicothernoob: I have no idea.  I never tried it.02:34
othernoobthen go ahead and try it ;)02:35
othernoobcause it says root after you entered the password..02:35
mrmanic:)02:35
mrmanicthanks othernoob 02:35
othernoobyw02:35
mrmanicapparently I'm the otherothernoob02:35
mrmanic:\02:35
mrmanicI'm some kind of noob anyway02:35
crimsunmrmanic: it means "some people like to play semantic games"02:35
othernoobothernoob= utternoob ;)02:35
mrmaniccrimsun: ten four good buddy02:36
othernoobcrimsun: what do you mean by semantic games ?02:36
crimsunothernoob: playing word games02:36
crimsun(but not just word games, games with meanings, too)02:37
othernoobheh, i know what semantic means.. but i meant ..could you give me an example ;)02:37
crimsunothernoob: init 2 and init 3, for instance02:38
othernoobheh i see02:38
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Furicim updating kde via the kde mirrors for kubuntu, theres no probs there right?02:41
nldkFuric > I had to uninstall kdm before upgrading. Afterwards I installed it again. Otherwise all went smoothly02:42
nldkThe new kde solved some nasty konqueror and kuser crashes on my systems02:42
Furicooh02:42
Furicdoes kopetes msn upport work too?02:43
nldkyep02:43
Furicnow, is that a good thing or a bad thing, im not totally sure02:43
nldki guess it's ok that kopete supports msn??02:44
Tm_TFuric: why not to use kubuntu repos?02:44
FuricTm_T does kubuntu have an aussie mirror?02:44
Tm_TFuric: does it have to?02:45
Tm_Tand I think yes02:45
Furichmm... oh well the upgrade has started now02:45
Tm_T:p02:45
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nldkhow do I add apt repository gpg keys to my system?02:48
crimsunto which user?02:49
Tm_Thmm, there's something in wiki?02:49
nldkroot?02:49
reagleBRKLNanyone know if the 3.4.1 kubuntu debs have the kpilot patch applied?02:50
nldkwhen I add a none-official repository apt keeps bugging me about unsigned packages02:50
reagleBRKLNhaving it eat my memos sounds a little scary02:50
Tm_Tnldk: yes, there was something in wiki about it02:52
nldkgotta link02:52
othernoobnldk: http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf1.html#h2add  step 7 ? 02:52
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nldkgreat - thanks!02:53
othernoobyw02:53
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VaderDarthhi02:55
VaderDarthwhat is kubuntu pls02:55
VaderDarthis it different from ubuntu?02:55
othernoobkubuntu uses kde as window system02:55
othernoobubuntu uses gnome02:55
nldkkubuntu uses kde instead of gnome02:55
othernoobthats it02:56
VaderDarthso is the same apps etc02:56
othernoobnot quite..02:57
nldknot really02:57
othernoobubuntu uses gnome, thus has the gnome based progs..02:57
othernooband kubuntu uses kde, thus kde progs..02:57
nldkcheck out: www.gnome.org and www.kde.org02:57
nldkyou'll see the difference02:58
VaderDarthwhich is better02:58
nldkkde02:58
reagleBRKLNkde!02:58
nldk:-)02:58
VaderDarthwhat is K de02:58
reagleBRKLNVaderDarth, you know you're asking on the Kubuntu channel, right? try the same ? on #ubuntu02:58
reagleBRKLNoh geez, go read the pages02:59
Tm_T=)02:59
mrmanicis kubuntu going to localize firefox for kde instead of gnome?02:59
VaderDarthK for everything?02:59
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Tm_TKool ;p02:59
VaderDarthwhat does the K stand for02:59
VaderDarthpls02:59
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Tm_TKool as far as I know02:59
Furiceek02:59
Tm_Tmrmanic: what you mean?03:00
nldkwho cares03:00
Furici wasn't so lucky it appears03:00
VaderDarthi know d e is for desktop environment03:00
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mrmanicK doesn't stand for anything anymore03:00
Tm_Tyup03:00
VaderDarthok can i install NFS on kubuntu03:00
Tm_Twhy not?03:01
mrmanicTm_T: I mean currently firefox uses gtk and the gnome file open dialogs etc.03:01
VaderDarthI have a FC2 NFS server03:01
nldkyou can install nearly anything you want03:01
Tm_Tmrmanic: ah, you mean qt/gtk03:01
nldkFuric, what went wrong?03:01
Furicerror "trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/default.kde', which is also in package knetworkconf" when processing kdelibs-data03:01
VaderDarththat talks to a solaris server, which talks to a netware server which then talks to 200 win XP machines03:01
mrmanicTm_T: yeah, basically.03:01
Tm_Tmrmanic: it's not kubuntu's task03:02
Tm_Tmrmanic: there is qt-firefox project03:02
VaderDarthcan i run kubuntu at init 303:02
nldkmrmanic, don't use apt-get to install firefox. Download it from the firefox web site and install it03:02
mrmanicnldk: that seems like the best option.03:03
nldkFuric, dpkg -p knetworkconf and try again03:03
nldkmrmanic: works for me03:03
Tm_TVaderDarth: sure03:03
reagleBRKLNstupid IRC question, when you respond to someone, do you typically type in there name, or click it somewhere... seems like a lot of typing and haven't found such a feature in kvirc03:04
Furicnldk: that didn't help at all, it seemed to just make dpkg output some metadata about knetworkconf03:04
Tm_TreagleBRKLN: what?03:04
mrmanicreagleBRKLN: typing someone's name actually makes it easier to figure out who you're talking to03:04
mrmanicreagleBRKLN: generally tab-completion is available on gui clients.03:05
reagleBRKLNTm_T: i wish i could've just clicked your name or something to respond to your message, but I had to type it in03:05
Tm_Tmrmanic: generally in any irc clients03:05
mrmanicreagleBRKLN: so you can type the first 2 or 3 characters and hit tab03:05
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reagleBRKLNpeople with long names, including myself, are a pain ;)03:05
VaderDarthTm_T: thanks03:05
reagleBRKLNmrmanic: sweet!03:05
nldkFuric: what's the data?03:05
mrmanicreagleBRKLN: my EPIC config must have been hosed.03:05
mrmanicer03:05
reagleBRKLNdidn't know there was autcomlete03:05
Tm_TreagleBRKLN: ... click in irc? what? you use graphical client??!!!03:05
mrmanicTm_T: my EPIC config must have been hosed03:05
reagleBRKLNTm_T: yes, evil, i know03:05
Tm_T=)03:05
Furicnldk: im in console after the kdm issues, i cant paste it all, even if i could it would need to go in a pastebin03:06
VaderDarthcan Kubuntu run on a VIA epia03:06
Tm_T?03:06
Tm_Twhy not03:06
Tm_Tif you can run any linux03:06
VaderDarthi plan on buying an m1000003:06
nldkFuric: Try sudo apt-get -f install03:07
reagleBRKLNok, time to restart kde for 3.4.1!03:07
VaderDarthhttp://www.mini-itx.com/03:07
Furicnldk: also did nothing03:07
nldkFuric: and then sudo dpkg -P knetworkconf03:07
Furicooh, caps p03:07
VaderDarthwill the m1000 work out of the box03:07
VaderDarthi mean what hardware do u guys use03:08
VaderDarthor anyone tried an epia03:08
nldkFuric: Just checking - you use sudo don't you?03:08
Furicnldk: im doing this in a root console03:08
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nldkFuric: OK - just making sure03:09
FuricAhh ha03:09
Tm_TVaderDarth: I "build" my own pc03:09
Furicall seems well now, time for reboot, thanks nldk and everyone ^_^03:09
VaderDarthcool Tm_T, so u think the graphics in the m10000 will work?03:10
VaderDarthhttp://www.mini-itx.com/reviews/nehemiah/03:11
Tm_TVaderDarth: sure, afaik03:12
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Furicwoo hoo03:12
nldkwell, well Furic ?03:12
Tm_TVaderDarth: http://www.mini-itx.com/reviews/nehemiah/default.asp?page=7#s1403:13
Furicall appears to be working ^_^03:13
VaderDarth think the graphics is  S3. UniChrome 03:13
Tm_TVaderDarth: so I think ti works... with little work though =)03:13
VaderDarthi reall want a small pc03:13
nldkFuric: congrats and welcome to the new kde!03:13
VaderDarthlike this in my home, like a mac mini!!03:14
nldkbrb03:14
reagleBRKLNhello with 3.4.1! :) lets see, lost my desktop trashcan again, still same old libtunepimp issue, not sure if kpilot will eat memos03:14
Tm_Thaha03:14
VaderDarthTm_T: me ??03:15
Tm_TreagleBRKLN: just disable "hidden" in trashcan03:15
reagleBRKLNTm_T: i did it once, but don't remember how to find that option03:15
VaderDarthTm_T: how much ram will kubuntu need to run03:15
VaderDarthalso can i get MythTV for Kubuntu03:16
Tm_TVaderDarth: hmm, 64 is enough to _run_03:16
Tm_TreagleBRKLN: ok, it's easy03:16
VaderDarthi mean run apss as well03:16
VaderDarthi mean comfortable03:16
Tm_Theh, 12803:16
Tm_T256 is smooth03:17
Tm_Tand my 1G is _enough_03:17
VaderDarthso if i buy a 512 stick is it om03:17
Tm_Tbut I still wan't more03:17
Tm_Tit's great03:17
reagleBRKLNTm_T: i recently went from 512M to 1G and notice *no* difference03:17
VaderDarthcan i get MythTv03:17
reagleBRKLNdidn't even need to bother03:17
Tm_TVaderDarth: yup03:17
VaderDarthwhere from?03:17
VaderDarthi don't want to compile03:18
Tm_TreagleBRKLN: ~/Desktop/trash.desktop ... edit that file03:18
Tm_TVaderDarth: why not03:18
VaderDarthcan u get a compiler for via03:18
VaderDarthc303:18
Tm_Tuhm03:18
othernoobwhat's wrong with compiling ?03:19
Tm_TVaderDarth: and mythtv is in repos03:19
VaderDarthcoll Tm_T03:19
Tm_Tand many related packages03:19
VaderDarthcool03:19
VaderDarthso all i need to do is>03:19
VaderDarthapt-get MythTv ???03:20
Tm_Tapt-get install mythtv03:20
othernoobsudo apt-get install 03:20
Tm_Tmaybe something more03:20
Tm_Taah03:20
Tm_TI always forget that people don't use root account03:20
VaderDarthwill it not do everything on its own>03:20
othernooblol03:21
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othernoobeh.. vaderdarth.. is typing a command too much ?03:21
Tm_TI have separate vdesktop for root Konsole sessions :p03:21
othernoobvaderdarth, you can use kynaptic as well03:21
VaderDarthno it needs Mysql and stuff03:21
othernoobyou know...gui..colors..and all ;)03:21
VaderDarthwhat th f** is kynaptic03:22
VaderDarthnever heard of it03:23
mrmanicsynaptic modified for kde with bugs thrown in?03:23
nldkVaderDarth: kynaptic is a graphical package manager03:23
nldkI like synaptic better though03:23
VaderDarthok, but will it set up the MythTv for me03:23
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nldkVaderDarth: sure03:23
othernoobVaderDarth: it will install it03:24
VaderDarthis there anyone here who has done that?03:24
nldkkpackage is ok too actually03:24
VaderDarthcan kubuntu play DVDS03:24
mrmanicI prefer kpackage03:24
nldkkubuntu can do anything you want it too03:24
VaderDarthcan u play DVDs pls03:24
othernoobnldk: it hasnt got me laid yet :/03:25
nldkVaderDarth: yes03:25
nldkothernoob: lol03:25
VaderDarthdo u need to download stuff?03:25
VaderDarthor is it out of the box03:25
nldkVaderDarth: read yhe wiki03:26
VaderDarthok03:26
alex_can anyone help? every time i try to switch into administrator mode in kubuntu it doesn't work, it just hangs. also, whenever i try to do anything sudo in konsole, i get the message: "unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname". what should i do? please help! i cant create a root account since i cant use sudo...03:28
nldkVaderDarth: E.g. you need to install libdvdcss (http://developers.videolan.org/libdvdcss/)03:29
VaderDarthok03:29
VaderDarththanks all, c u all tmmrw, got to sleep!03:29
VaderDarthbye03:29
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alex_pleeeeaaaaase can anyone help03:30
nldkalex_: type "hostname" in a console03:30
alex_k03:30
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nldkwhta's the output?03:30
alex_ubuntu03:30
alex_strange...03:30
nate__i ate too much03:31
nldkcheck the contents of /etc/hosts03:31
nate__feels like i might explode03:31
nate__seriously03:31
nate__this is bad03:31
alex_there's no ubuntu03:31
nldkadd ubuntu at the end of the first line that starts with 127.0.0.103:31
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alex_ya but i dont have privileges03:32
nldkdarn - i forgot that03:32
alex_ya... it been bugging me for a while...03:32
alex_they should include root in installation like all the others....03:33
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nldktry rebooting and add linux single to the grub parameters03:33
nldk"linux single"03:34
nldkthis should give you a root prompt03:34
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alex_grub? sorry im new to linux...03:34
Curaltonalex_: the bootloader03:35
othernoobgrub= bootmanager03:35
alex_ahh03:35
nldkalex_: I haven't tried this in kubuntu though - so I don't know if it works...03:35
alex_k03:35
Curaltonalex_: but you have to be quick at the start to get into the grub bootmenu03:35
alex_ill try... rebooting...03:36
Curaltonpress "e" to edit the cmdline03:36
alex_so how exactly to i "add" it?03:36
Curaltonwhen done b to boot iirc03:36
alex_a03:36
Curaltonalex_: so in other words you forgot your user loginpass? :)03:37
Curaltonnldk: tried in ubuntu or where?03:37
alex_no, i just have no root03:37
Curaltonnldk: because iirc debian single boot method requires rootpass03:37
Curaltonalex_: ah, but you have your own password still?03:37
alex_ya03:38
alex_hmm e does nothing...03:38
nldkCuralton: his hosts file doesn't include his hostname03:38
alex_missed it... now its booting03:38
Curaltonalex_: ah, then you have admin rights03:38
alex_ya03:38
Curaltonalex_: thats the hole idea behind the sudo thing (mac os x also uses this)03:38
alex_ya im dual booting with mac os x03:39
alex_im typing this on mac os :)03:39
Curaltonohhh, a ppc03:39
alex_ya03:39
Curaltonerr, that is yaboot as a bootloader03:39
Curaltonit doesnt have a bootcmdline03:39
alex_thats why it didnt work!03:39
Curaltonor, not one as grub, youd have to go into openfirmware03:39
alex_ahh i know how to do that ;)03:40
Curaltonalex_: anyhow, if you still have your own login password and this is the first user you added you practically are "root"03:40
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alex_but i cant even add new users or anything... it just hangs at "loading" with the red border in control center03:40
Curaltonalex_: remember os x asks for *your* password when changing stuff, not the nonexisting root users?03:40
alex_but i cant even sudp03:41
alex_*sudo03:41
alex_i use that pretty often03:41
nldkCuralton: sudo doesn't work because his hostname can not be resolved...03:41
Curaltonah, now i get it. hostspecific sudo 03:41
alex_i guess03:41
alex_so should i enter into open firmware now?03:42
alex_or that would be useless03:42
Curaltonoh dear... something very obscure03:42
alex_sorry :\03:42
Curaltonalex_: hmm, the easier way would probably be to boot from CD03:42
alex_okay...03:42
Curaltonthen mount the root partition, chroot into it and set a new pass03:42
Curaltoninsert cd and type "cdboot" (iirc)03:42
alex_sure03:42
alex_shutting down...03:43
Curaltonfor the details maybe check #ubuntu-ppc03:43
Curaltonor even #debianppc03:43
alex_ahh didnt realise there was such03:43
alex_**finds cd**03:43
Curaltonalex_: /msg Chanselv list *ppc* or so would give you a list of channels03:44
Curaltonalex_: doh! os x still boots?03:44
alex_ya03:44
nldkalex_: Still remember to add ubuntu to your /etc/hosts file or else it still won't work03:44
alex_okay03:45
Curaltonget the ext2fs plugin for os x, mount your root partition and set an empty rootpass or maybe fix /etc/hosts03:45
alex_ah!03:45
alex_ill try that right away03:45
Curaltonext2fs.sf.net or something03:45
Curaltonsec. lemme check03:45
alex_**ejects cd and reboots**03:45
Curaltonheh :)03:45
alex_:)03:45
Curaltonwait a bit and we come up with even more solutions to fix your problem :)03:45
alex_haha03:46
alex_thanks you guys have already been terrific :)03:46
Curaltonthere http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsx/03:46
alex_cool thanks03:47
Curaltoni hope you didnt pick something fancy like XFS or so as a root filesystem though :)03:47
nldkalex_: I'm pretty sure the hosts thing will solve your problem03:47
alex_nldk: me too!03:47
alex_Curalton: naa :)03:47
alex_glad i didnt03:48
Curaltonxfs is "cool" for ppc because it also has big endianness as the ppc arch, so the pc is dont nanoseconds faster ;)03:48
Curaltonis done*03:48
alex_wow!03:48
Curaltonmaybe just attoseconds, never tried03:49
alex_a few attoseconds!03:49
alex_i cant beleive it!03:49
Curaltonan attoparsec leap forward!03:49
alex_haha03:50
nldkso alex_ is it working?03:50
alex_well just finished downloading...03:50
alex_i had to reboot03:50
alex_into osx03:50
alex_on my old ibook03:51
alex_installing...03:51
Curaltonheh, ibook as well here :)03:51
Curaltong3 700mhz03:51
alex_800mgz but close!03:51
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alex_but im typing this on my g5  8) 03:52
Curaltonbut debian on it03:52
Curaltonalex_: gna :P03:52
alex_ya i was thinking about that03:52
alex_hehe03:52
alex_aww man i have to reboot again...03:52
Curaltonto quote the #debianppc topic "Debian on PPC - think of it as a never-ending IQ test."03:52
alex_haha03:53
alex_booting...03:53
Curaltonnldk: blast, thats evil indeed, sudoers file doesnt just accept "localhost"03:54
alex_hmm its not mounting...03:54
Curaltonthat can wreach havoc on box in difference dhcp environments03:55
nldkCuralton: tell me about it...03:55
Curaltonalex_: goto the system prefs and the ext2 settings, mount them there (iirc)03:55
alex_oops hehe...03:55
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Curaltonnldk: ah, but it accepts "ALL"03:56
alex_so which one is the root one...03:56
nldkque?03:56
Curaltonnldk: heh, no kubuntu at hand here to see if it puts "hostname" or ALL in this section of sudoers03:56
alex_the biggest one i guess03:56
nldkyeh03:57
Curaltonnldk: user ALL= some command is working in /etc/sudoers03:57
alex_aww crap it says it needs to be repaired, cant mount03:57
Curaltonalex_: to be on the safe side maybe also set root pass to zero in /etc/shadow03:57
Curaltono.O03:57
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alex_hmm03:58
Curaltonalex_: hmm, maybe one more boot up - boot down cyle on kubuntu03:58
nldkalex_: do you have live cd?03:58
alex_ya both03:58
nldkboot on one of them03:58
Curaltonalex_: then it should fsck the rootfs if needed03:58
Curaltonyay, 5th method :)03:58
nldkall you need to do is changing you /etc/hosts file03:58
alex_haha03:58
alex_i cant beleive it !! :)03:59
alex_reboots again...03:59
nldkhehe03:59
alex_so the live cd not the install right?03:59
Curaltonwell, good luck then, im off. late here :)03:59
nldkhere too03:59
alex_ah well tanks!03:59
Curaltonthe install CD would just boot a minimal shell03:59
alex_okay03:59
alex_bye curalton!04:00
Curaltonyou'd have to mount the rootfs on your own etc.04:00
nldkI'll stick around - curious to see what happens04:00
alex_k thanks!04:00
alex_ill hurry up04:00
Curaltoncyas, nn04:00
nldkbyebye04:00
alex_bye04:00
nldkso, how are we doing?04:01
alex_well its booting...04:01
alex_lots of text ;)04:01
nldkthat's always something04:01
alex_now its detecting hardware and such04:02
alex_so basically all i would have to do is add ubuntu to /etc/hosts?04:02
nldkyep - add the end of the line that starts with 127.0.0.1 (probably the 1st)04:03
alex_wow so much for so little!04:03
alex_so what time is where you are?04:04
Tm_T050404:04
alex_am or pm?04:04
Tm_T...04:04
alex_i hope pm...04:04
nldk0404 am04:05
Tm_Tyup04:05
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alex_are you serious nldk?04:05
Tm_T050504:05
Tm_Talex_: he is, just like me04:05
alex_uhh....04:05
alex_bit late huh?04:05
Tm_Tearly04:05
Tm_Tand late04:05
alex_ya lol04:05
nldkearly, late whatever04:05
alex_heh04:05
Tm_Thmm, maybe I should sleep someday soon04:06
nldklack of sleep is the result04:06
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alex_ya i guess...04:06
nldkalex_: did it finish booting?04:06
alex_almost...04:06
Tm_Thaha04:06
phxguycan anyone help me with a problem im having getting Acrobat reader to work in kubuntu?04:06
nldkbecause you need to mount you linux partition and stuff04:06
Tm_T"did it finish bloating"04:06
Tm_Tmaybe I really should sleep =)04:06
alex_hahaha04:06
alex_i think so04:07
Tm_Tnaeh04:07
nldkdon't edit the hosts file on the live cd (you can't actually)04:07
alex_ya04:07
alex_hahaha04:07
alex_im at the splash screen04:07
nldk"just checking the walls" (Basil Fawlty)04:07
alex_what would happen if i attempt to install gnome on kubuntu or kde on ubuntu?04:08
nldkyou die04:08
Tm_Tnothing dangerous04:08
alex_ah im finally in!04:08
alex_ok04:08
nldknothing really 04:08
Tm_Tit doesn't matter really04:08
nldkyou'll probably get an overstuffed system menu 04:09
alex_hehe04:09
nldkwith mixed gnome and kde apps04:09
alex_eww i hate clutter04:09
alex_how do i get to my hard drive? media? it cant mount it... i feel so stupid...04:10
nldkrun sudo fdisk /dev/hda04:11
nldkI don't know if hda is right htough04:11
alex_oh shit04:11
alex_my computer fell asleep...04:11
alex_no more batteruy04:11
alex_*battery04:11
nldkbuh 04:12
alex_:( :(04:12
nldkdon't you have a powersupply?04:12
nldkanyway - now you can feel stupid... :-)04:12
alex_yes but now i woke it up and it blabs on that ugly text screen cant find cpu frequency04:13
alex_sorry, i dont want to keep you up...04:13
nldkdon't worry - i'll be here until your gear works04:13
alex_are you sure?04:14
alex_wow04:14
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alex_i wish everyone on this planet was like you....04:14
nldksome people might say that i need a life04:14
alex_lol04:14
alex_that is a life04:14
alex_and they say the same to me...04:15
nldkwhere are you from actually?04:15
alex_los angeles04:15
alex_part french, corsican to be exact04:15
alex_and you?04:16
nldktrs bien!04:16
alex_hehe, cool!04:16
alex_oui oui04:16
phxguycan't anybody help me out here?04:17
alex_what do you need?04:17
nldkwith what?04:17
alex_phxguy?04:18
phxguyalex_:  Im having a problem getting acrobat reader to work in kubuntu hoary04:18
nldkalex_: status?04:18
alex_well its in the middle of rebooting04:19
nldkphxguy: download it from adobe's home page - don't use apt or something04:19
phxguyI installed acrobat reader through synaptic 04:19
nldkyou can't04:19
nldkeven though it says so...04:19
phxguyi downloaded from the adobe download page and did alien -i 04:20
phxguywhen i tried to run it is said i didn't have permission04:20
nldkdownload the tar.gz file instead http://ardownload.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/unix/7x/7.0/enu/AdbeRdr70_linux_enu.tar.gz04:21
alex_its at the splash screen...04:21
phxguyif download that file am i gonna have to makefile and junk04:22
alex_i dont get it... what are the other 65 people doing on this channel?04:22
phxguyusually just taking up space.04:22
nldknope - it's just an install file - no compiling necessary04:22
phxguyo ok04:23
nldkalex_: having a life...04:23
alex_hahaha04:23
alex_okay so i typed sudo fdisk /dev/hda04:24
alex_now what?04:24
nldktype p04:24
alex_whoa04:24
nldkwhat's the output?04:24
phxguynldk do i need to use sudo to run the install script?04:24
alex_all my partitions04:24
nldkphxguy: i don't think so04:25
alex_i beleive i must mount my hda304:25
nldkalex_: ok04:25
nldkalex_: mkdir /mnt/hda3 and mount /dev/hda3 /mnt/hda304:25
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alex_hmm04:27
Tm_NuadaI'm triple!04:27
Tm_Nuadaalmost quadrophenia04:27
alex_so i type mkdir /mnt/hda3 then mount /dev/hda3 then /mnt/hda3?04:27
alex_sorry...04:27
nldkmkdir /mnt/hda304:28
nldkmount /dev/hda3 /mnt/hda304:28
phxguynldk: i ran the install file and then when it was done i typed acroread and it gave me an error04:28
phxguybash: acroread: command not found04:28
nldkphxguy: where did you install it?04:28
alex_got it04:29
phxguyi used the default directory it gave me /usr/local/Adobe/Acrobat7.004:29
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alex_so i edited the hosts file but it says i dont have permissions04:30
nldkphxguy: cd to this directory and then bin04:30
nldkdid you use sudo?04:30
alex_to save it?04:30
phxguyyes i had to so it could create the directory04:30
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nldksudo vi /mnt/hda3/etc/hosts04:30
phxguyok im at /usr/......./bin04:30
alex_ah04:31
nldkphxguy: ls04:31
RetroManhas anyone here gotten zeroconf to work in kubuntu?04:31
phxguythere is one file in there acroread04:31
nldkphxguy: run ./acroread04:31
alex_i see 127.0.0.1 localhost in konsole, now how do i edit it?04:32
nldkalex_: you use vi?04:32
phxguynldk: ok i did that and it worked that time04:33
nldkalex_: ??04:33
alex_ya04:33
alex_sorry04:33
phxguyi assume its not in my path? or something04:33
alex_i did vi04:33
nldkalex_: type i04:34
nldkphxguy: sudo rm /usr/bin/acroread04:34
alex_okay it works, thanks04:34
alex_now to save?04:34
nldkphxguy: sudo ln -s /usr/local/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/bin/acroread /usr/bin04:35
phxguynldk: it says no such file or directory04:35
nldkalex_: press escape04:35
nldkalex_: then press :04:35
nldkalex_: (colon)04:35
nldkalex_: then write wq and enter04:36
nldkphxguy: type which acroread04:36
phxguyok i created the link04:36
alex_thank you!04:36
nldkalex_: reboot!04:36
alex_yay!04:37
phxguyAh Super!!! It all works now as it should. Thanks for all your help nldk 04:37
nldkalex_: remember to remove the cd04:37
nldkphxguy: yw04:37
nldkbrb04:37
alex_k04:38
nldkback04:39
alex_k04:40
alex_its booting04:40
alex_but now it should work04:40
alex_thank you so much nldk!04:40
nldkdoes it work?04:41
alex_almost there....04:41
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alex_oh no...04:42
nldk?04:43
alex_doesnt.... work... :( :( :'(04:44
alex_i dont get it....04:44
nldkping ubuntu04:44
alex_ping: unkown host ubuntu04:45
nldkhm04:45
nldki'm lost then04:45
alex_sorry04:45
nldkme too04:45
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alex_oh no, you where great04:45
nldktry cat /etc/hosts04:46
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alex_127.0.0.1 localhost04:46
alex_ubuntu04:46
nldkis ubuntu on the same line as 127.0.0.1 localhost?04:47
alex_no04:47
nldkah...04:47
alex_is it supposed to?04:47
nldkyep04:47
alex_darn it!!!!04:47
nldkboot again with your live cd04:47
nldkand do the same stuff04:47
alex_okay04:47
alex_you dont need to stay, im keeping you a lot04:47
nldkdo you remember what to do?04:48
alex_ya04:48
alex_and anyway its here04:48
alex_i can scroll up incase04:48
nldkok - i'm going to warm up my wife04:48
alex_but i really appreciate your help04:48
alex_hahah04:48
alex_have fun04:48
alex_good night04:48
nldkyou too and good luck04:49
alex_thanks04:49
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RetroManhas anyone here gotten zeroconf to work in kubuntu?05:03
alex_yes my sudo works!!05:06
alex_thank you nldk! (even though you left)05:07
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cyber23how do I install with kubuntu05:46
cyber23can't get any updates need help.... please05:47
kakaltowhat do you mean?05:48
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cyber23I want to install my tuner card05:48
cyber23ati e-home wonder05:49
kakaltodo you know what driver it requires?05:49
cyber23for windows xp yes, ubuntu no05:50
cyber23how do I find out05:50
cyber23how do I change my sources.list file05:55
kakaltohave you seen www.ubuntuguide.org ?05:55
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PaloDeQuesoHow do you get the kde file sharing thing working in kubuntu, I tried to configure my shares with the samba util but it didn't work :(06:04
kakaltouhh06:05
kakaltothat reminds me06:05
kakaltoI'm gonna see if my network is working properly06:05
kakaltonope :((06:09
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kakaltoPaloDeQueso, are you still around?06:32
kakaltodo you still have a problem with samba?06:32
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ztonzyamu, morning :)08:03
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FiretechGoooood mooooorning Vietnaaam, and the rest of the world... (Not that I am in Vietnam or something...)08:29
sirukinshut up.08:29
FiretechThat movie is pretty good.08:30
Firetechsirukin: whats wrong?08:30
ztonzyFiretech, hejsan :)08:31
Firetechhejhej08:32
ztonzydamnit, it rains now08:33
FiretechI think it does here too, I haven't got the courage to draw up my cutrains yet ;)08:35
ztonzyhehe08:44
ztonzytime for morning shower08:44
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ram_einsteinkubuntu is good?08:53
ram_einsteinI use fedora but I recently installed ubuntu08:53
ram_einstein... heard about kubuntu08:53
ram_einsteinkde ubuntu08:53
sirukinhaha08:55
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hussamShould I get kde 3.4.1? will they be maintained like 3.4.0? 09:04
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kimoguys, I am facing a really wierd problem! I can not run any scripts! gives me "permission denied!"09:06
hussamkimo: did you upgrade to kde 3.4.1?09:08
kimohussam: no not yet09:08
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hussamwhy is ubuntu's xmms built with gtk1.2 and not 2.6?09:13
kimohussam: coz xmms is a gtk 1 only application. It cant use gtk 209:14
kimoforget xmms, use juk, amarok, kaffiene, xmms is IMHO a thing of the past09:15
hussamkimo: dang09:15
hussamkimo: i only use kaffeine. it is the best09:16
Firetechhussam: beep-media-player is exactly like xmms, but it's using gtk209:17
hussamkimo: but I want to install superkaramba which requires xmms09:17
kimoit's more of a video player. For music, juk is very good, or amarok (if it works)09:17
Firetechhussam: then install beep-media-player, it can use the "xmms --play" etc. shortcuts09:17
kimook do it09:17
Firetechand is fully compatible.09:18
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kimocan anyone help with my problem "always getting permission denied" when running any script09:18
Firetechkimo: chmod +x [scriptname-here] 09:19
Firetechmany scripts can be run with "sh [scriptname] " though09:19
kimoFiretech: I have chmod 777 script09:19
Firetechhmm09:19
Firetechdo you have a #!/path/yo/parser line first in the file?09:20
kimoFiretech: yes09:20
Fireteche.g. #!/bin/sh for shellscripts09:20
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Firetechthen I don't know09:20
Firetechaway.09:20
hussamFiretech: are you going to upgrade to kde 3.4.1?09:21
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carstenWhere do I find an explanation what those numbers mean: kdesktop 4:3.4.1-0ubuntu0hoary2 ? 3.4.1 is the KDE-version. but what does the 0 before "hoary" and the 2 after "hoary" mean?09:53
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carstenbrb09:55
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liz4rdhow do i change the root passwd10:31
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hussamliz4rd: I think sudo passwd10:35
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_lukewhat does this message mean? ::: Sound server fatal error:   AudioSubSystem::handleIO: write failed   len = -1, can_write = 4096, errno = 25 (Inappropriate ioctl for device)10:42
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killefizhmm - no 3.4.1 packages for ppc?10:52
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hussamI'm downloading the debs for kde 3.4.1 now11:32
hussamThey are however missing kdevelop 3.2.111:32
hussamwill it be packaged later?11:32
Riddellhussam: the package has been changed to kdevelop not kdevelop311:33
hussamRiddellL: ok thank you. :)11:34
hussamRiddell: Thanks again for the kde 3.4.1 packages11:35
Riddellyou're welcome11:36
Riddellyou will need to remove kdevelop3 first, else they'll clash11:36
killefizRiddell: is anyone working on ppc-debs or should I give it a go myself?11:36
Riddellkillefiz: you would need to compile them yourself11:37
mikleeh, If I wanted to create a tarball of /boot, /etc/ and /var/lib, how would I go about that?11:40
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miklIs there a new install-cd for the new version of kubuntu?11:46
Riddellmikl: see /topic11:48
Riddelloh, no that's just live CD11:49
Riddellsorry, you have to install with KDE 3.4.0 and upgrade11:49
floater_I want to wget a website and some links it has in it. I try 'wget -r -x -l4 http://etc..  but it just downloads the url and no sublinks,wodups?11:49
miklah, okay :)11:49
shogoukifloater_: -r11:49
shogoukioups11:49
floater_yeah, it's strange11:50
miklfrom the ---kde dept. <- you guys are crazy :)11:50
floater_shuoldn't that be alright ?11:50
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shogoukican you give us the url ?11:50
floater_http://dsl.org/cookbook/cookbook_toc.html11:51
miklIt's just the announcement of kde 3.4.1 at the dot - http://dot.kde.org/1117548502/11:51
floater_it downloads a robots.txt with some text about disallowing... in it11:51
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floater_shogouki were you able to download that website ?11:53
floater_and out of curiosity, what do you think, what should be the level for that website?11:53
shogoukiUser-agent: Wget11:53
shogoukiDisallow: /11:53
shogoukichange ua of wget11:54
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shogoukiwget -U11:54
floater_hmm11:54
floater_I added -U on my command and it didn't help11:55
segeis kubuntu it's own dist/release now or is it 'addon' to ubuntu hoary? 11:56
floater_I am using windows port of wget for now. Trying to get that website to my kubuntu machine that is not online atm11:56
segei'm sitting in hoary now with KDE installed and i'd like to crank up my world to kubuntu-life, dont like gnome so...11:56
floater_you are basically using kubuntu then11:57
floater_I assume11:57
segeprobably11:57
floater_ubuntu users can 'update' to kubuntu with apt-get install kde-desktop or smth11:57
floater_if I recall11:57
segeshould i change to kubuntu repository or something? 11:58
hussamfloater_: that's kubuntu-desktop11:58
segeor just live my life and add lines for kde 3.4.1 and be happy =)11:58
floater_I donno.. so shogouki can you tell me a bit more :X11:58
floater_how should I download that website with help of that -U11:58
miklso, when I reinstall Hoary, I should just add the apt-repo in the topic and everything should be good?11:59
shogoukifloater_: it doesnt work for me too :/12:01
floater_:i12:02
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brosiowhat is gam_server ?12:06
Riddellbrosio: monitors for file changes on disk so e.g. Konqueror gets updated if you change a file name elsewhere12:09
killefizoh - is famd finally gone?12:11
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brosioRiddell, thx12:12
brosioi'm trying to resize an ext3 partition12:13
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DavidQB-awayyeah ya gotta kill it, thats what I did to umount and resize a partition12:24
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mikkelthe install-CD hangs at the detecting hardware-part  - what can I do?12:34
floater_heh12:34
floater_I have no idea12:35
hussammikkel: unplug any usb printers, etc...12:35
floater_but I know nothing12:35
mikkelhussam: I only have my mouse plugged in :/12:35
floater_I want to know how to download this website http://dsl.org/cookbook/cookbook_toc.html :((( 12:35
Riddellmikkel: try acpi=off at bootup12:36
floater_it gives some error for robot even with -U12:36
mikkelohwell, now it works :)12:36
Riddellfloater_: wget -r -l 112:36
floater_I want to download many levels12:37
Riddellfloater_: wget -r -l 512:37
floater_it doesn't download like I said. It has a block for robots or something12:38
floater_was suggested to add -U to change the user-agent but it doesnt work12:38
floater_just downloads that 1st level12:38
floater_or can you download it Riddell ? can you send it to me12:39
Riddellsorry, busy12:41
ztonzyis amu awake ?12:44
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miklis there any other kubuntu-specific deb-sources I should add apart from the one in the topic?12:57
floater_Don't I get firefox installed automatically when I install kubuntu ?01:00
floater_on /usr/bin/01:00
floater_or do I have to apt-get it?01:01
gideonapt-get it/aptitude it/synaptic it01:01
miklfloater_: Why don't you check before you ask? It should be relatively easy to check :)01:01
gideonwhatever you do, don't dselect it :)01:01
floater_mikl: the computer I have installed kubuntu is some 30meters from here and closed :P it doesn't have network on it either :X01:02
floater_and other question is that does it have a pdf-reader by default01:02
floater_and how should I download pdf-reader if not apt-get01:03
miklfloater_: it has KPDF :)01:03
floater_hmm ok01:03
mikland apt-get is a good way to install software01:03
floater_yea but it's not online now01:03
floater_and I am going to burn a .pdf file that I want to read on it. Doesn't have x-window working atm either01:04
miklin that case, things are difficult01:04
floater_so I wonder if I can run that kpdf from the console01:04
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Riddell\sh: pyqt compiled01:05
floater_how would you search where kpdf is installed if it is ?01:07
Riddellfloater_: which kpdf01:07
floater_well, let's ask this way. I can only go to console. I can't apt-get anything. I have to read a .pdf file01:07
floater_what shuold I do ? I have a fresh install of kubuntu on it01:08
floater_I can burn a cd with install binaries if necessary if I need something from internet though01:08
\shRiddell: is it now in universe or will it stay in main?01:10
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floater_I see that ubuntu has xpdf. In console I can't open that01:13
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\shfloater_: as far as I know, there is no pdf reader for console01:13
floater_ok01:14
Riddell\sh: it's in universe01:14
floater_If I want to run firefox from console, how should I do it ?01:14
floater_I mean if I want to open it up without having x01:15
Riddellfloater_: it's not installed with Kubuntu01:15
floater_is it possible or what01:15
Riddellfloater_: try pdftotext01:15
floater_I don't know how these thigns work. Can I run firefox somehow if I am in console01:16
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floater_I just tried on other machine with ubuntu it says gtk-warning01:16
\shfloater_: console == text , X == graphical enviroment ==> no X app runs on the console01:16
floater_okeyz 01:17
floater_just wondering. My friend has debian on his laptop, he does everything in terminal "full sized" and then he starts firefox etc.. well maybe he just uses a terminal and has x running01:18
floater_or something01:18
floater_so I have to fix my x ... when I try startx it says smth about not able to load module glide01:19
\shfloater_: because he has X running and has a xterm running01:19
floater_how do I remove glide from the module list ?01:21
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Riddell\sh: recon python-kde will be ready to upload today?01:43
xxenonanyone knows how to fix that error in breezy : 01:45
xxenonxbase-clients postinst warning: /etc/X11/xkb/xkbcomp symbolic link points to wrong location /usr/bin/xkbcomp01:45
Riddellxxenon: try pointing it to /usr/bin/X11/xkbcomp01:45
xxenonlemme see01:45
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\shRiddell: this evening yes...i have to make a source upload01:47
Riddell\sh: oh, did you get upload status by the way?01:48
\shRiddell: yepp01:49
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Riddell\sh: woo, congratulations01:49
\shthx01:49
\shdon't u read breezy-changes? ,-)01:49
RiddellI only filter it for 'kde'01:49
\shlast week i was approved and sunday elmo put the key in the ring :)01:50
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\shoh this was a sponsored upload for cxx-trans for ivoks (he's approved yesterday as motu ;))01:52
xxenonRiddell - well..my /usr/bin/X11/xkbcomp points to /etc/X11/xkb/xkbcomp01:54
xxenonxbase-clients postinst warning: /etc/X11/xkb/xkbcomp symbolic link points to wrong location /usr/bin/X11/xkbcomp01:57
brdwebhas anybody tried the 3.4.1 KDE release yet? i see there's a repo in the channel, but is that an 'official' one for kubuntu?02:00
Riddellbrdweb: it's official02:00
brdwebRiddell: thanks, well i guess i'll go ahead and grab it then :)02:00
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PaloDeQuesoHow do you get the kde file sharing thing working in kubuntu, I tried to configure my shares with the samba util but it didn't work :(02:13
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hussamRiddell: I just finished install kde 3.4.1 I rebooted and it's working great. I have one question. Say a security bug was found in kde 3.4.x . Will kde 3.4.1 users get the fix or just kde 3.4.0 users?02:15
hussamon kubuntu, I mean02:16
Riddellhussam: good point, I'll need to fix both02:16
hussamRiddell: ok thank you02:17
PaloDeQuesoHow do you get the kde file sharing thing working in kubuntu, I tried to configure my shares with the samba util but it didn't work :(02:19
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RiddellPaloDeQueso: easiest way is to navigate the panel menu and add Public File Server applet02:24
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Riddellbut file sharing is not done right yet in KDE02:24
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ToutPT|ppc|frhi every body02:29
ToutPT|ppc|fri have got a pb to updgrade to kde3.4.1 with hoary02:29
ToutPT|ppc|frkynaptic can t locate the sources02:29
PaloDeQuesoso how do most people do it as of now?02:29
\shfile-sharing?02:29
PaloDeQuesoyea02:29
ToutPT|ppc|fris there a special thing to do for the ppc version ?02:31
ToutPT|ppc|frexcept to change to an i586 ^^02:31
hussamRiddell: something's wrong with kdevelop 3.2.1 It has no option to create a new project or anything02:31
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hussamRiddell: is kdevelop 3.2.1 working for you?02:37
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Dull4o4hello. i've lost my default "kubuntu-desktop"... i upgraded from 3.3 to 3.4... now i only have a default kde one...02:41
Dull4o4is there a way to get it back?02:41
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Dull4o4..02:48
hussamRiddell: I'll downgrade to kdevelop 3.2.002:51
floater_hi wodup. I tried to reconfigure my x and changed 'glide' to 'mga'. First with glide it said 'failed to load module glide and now with mga it says 'mga_hal does not exists'. I have a matrox mga g200 agp videocard on pci bus1 device 0 function 0. When configuring I chose pci 1,0,0 I think02:57
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hussamRiddell: I downgraded to kdevelop 3.2.0 and it works again03:28
Riddellhussam: hmm, guess I screwed up somewhere, I'll tka e alook at it soon, thanks for telling me03:29
hussamRiddell: but other than kdevelop, kde 3.4.1 is working perfectly. 03:33
Riddellphew :)03:34
\shRiddell: i just played with your kmilo stuff yesterday, now I'm stucked with dcopref03:35
\shRiddell: is there any possibility to say: dcopref -> choose the useralternative for (e.g.) a cd_player?03:36
Riddellit's not mine, I take no blame for it :)03:36
Riddell\sh: no, don't think that's possible03:36
Riddell\sh: does meda:/ open kscd when you insert an audio CD?03:36
\shhmm..i never played audio cds with this laptop yet ;)03:37
\shbut I will try it at home ;)03:37
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\shRiddell: but this would be a nice goal to have those things implemented ;)03:41
DarkraD-nice03:41
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DarkraD-talking from ubuntu ;)03:41
DarkraD-<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">03:42
DarkraD-<body>language-pack-</body>03:42
DarkraD-oops03:43
DarkraD-how to install a language pack? i have downloaded the language pack and support from repositiry with package manager from ubuntu03:43
DarkraD-what else? i should just restart?03:43
DarkraD-how to set the default language ubuntu should use?03:44
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_lukehey anyone know how I can edit something graphically on a remote machine?03:45
_lukethrough ssh03:45
mrmanicargh03:54
mrmanicI had an answer to that one too03:54
mrmanic:\03:54
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douglashow do you rip a disc into an iso with linux?03:59
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FiretechWhat does KGX mean? The <title> on kubuntu.org says "Kubuntu - Pure KGX"04:50
RiddellFiretech: KDE GNU Unix04:50
FiretechYou probably should add that to the FAQ04:51
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FiretechFiretech Ased Questions ;)04:52
Firetech*Asked04:52
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Riddellor come up with a better slogan04:55
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FiretechRiddell: why not "A pure KDE OS"  or something more idiot friendly ;)05:43
FiretechYes, I just called myself an idiot.05:44
hussamFiretech: pure KGX sounds more cool, lol05:45
FiretechPure KLinux?05:45
Firetechnah, sounds too much like Kleenex or how they spell it.05:45
kimoguys, I am facing a strange problem! And I am not a newbie. Any script I try to execute, no matter sh/csh/perl , I get "permission denied, sh/csh/perl bad interpreter!". If I "perl ./script" it works. Any ideas?05:45
FiretechPure K OS?05:46
Firetechwhatever, stuff to do.05:46
hussamFiretech: or maybe, just pure k05:48
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Firetech"Pure K", sounds cool. Another alternative (to reflect on ubuntu) is "Pure Human K"05:50
hussamIs it true that there will be a kde based web browser with gecko rendering engine?05:54
buzsupposedly you can use gecko as engine for konqueror05:54
buzpersonally, i'd care more for a kde based browser that can deal with extensions05:54
Riddellthere's some code, it doesn't work well currently05:55
Riddellbuz: konqueror has extentions05:55
buzcompatible with firefox?05:55
hussamRiddell: but this isn't implemented at the moment, right?05:55
hussamlike not at least before kde 4.x05:56
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Riddellhussam: nobody is working on it05:56
Riddellbuz: no05:56
buzno point for me then05:56
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hussamthe gecko engine is good but firefox itself is not because of the xul interface.05:57
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buzi like the xul stuff05:58
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`TUX``xbase-clients error 06:00
`TUX``some trick?06:00
hussambuz: don't you think if it were just cpp , wouldn't it be faster? and it would still run on windows and mac, not just linux. Take for example xchat.06:00
buzwell it would be faster06:00
`TUX``xbase-clients postinst warning: /etc/X11/xkb/xkbcomp symbolic link points to wrong location /usr/bin/xkbcomp06:00
buzbut nowhere near as flexible06:00
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`TUX``Riddell:  are you there?06:00
buzand surely much less nifty extensions06:01
hussambuz: yeah xul does make creating extensions easier.06:01
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`TUX``hi 06:01
`TUX``sorry i have this error 06:02
`TUX``xbase-clients postinst warning: /etc/X11/xkb/xkbcomp symbolic link points to wrong location /usr/bin/xkbcomp06:02
`TUX``do you need more lines?06:03
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philipacamaniachas anyone tested the 5.04.1 LiveCD? I'm downloading it now (finally) to test it myself.06:04
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RiCo0hello06:05
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RiddellTUX: I don't know sorry, I don't do X06:07
Riddelltry asking in #ubuntu06:07
Riddellphilipacamaniac: nope, my computer decided to crash last night so didn't download06:07
`TUX``ok  it broke all kde upgrade 06:07
Riddellphilipacamaniac: are you planning to make a .deb of your Kubuntu menus?06:07
philipacamaniacI asked the backports folks to do it, but haven't gotten a good response. I'm not experienced with creating debs06:08
`TUX``i can't install no kontact no kdemultimedia no kdegraphics06:08
philipacamaniacI use checkinstall (horrors, I know) normally06:08
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philipacamaniacI suppose I could look at the KubuntuPackage wiki... so, yes I'm planning on making a deb06:09
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Curaltoncheckinstall horrors? works good enough for me06:11
philipacamaniacEver tried redistributing those packages (which, btw, don't conform to deb standards)06:12
thoreauputicCuralton: Ok locally - not OK in terms of correct Debianised debs06:12
Curaltonerr, yeh. surely not for anything near official06:13
Riddellphilipacamaniac: checkinstall?06:14
philipacamaniacAutomagic package maker06:14
philipacamaniacfor slackware, but now it makes debs06:14
philipacamaniacRiddell: Eventually, I'll have to decide between the 2 versions of my menu - I personally prefer the separate menu, but I suppose to conform to KDE, it should be in the Action Menu.06:16
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Riddellyep06:17
philipacamaniacpoo...  j/k06:17
spiralhmmm, the livecd on topic... what's new ?06:17
Riddellspiral: KDE 3.4.106:17
spiralRiddell: ouah, nice :-)06:17
spiral;-)06:17
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philipacamaniacRiddell: do I need a man page or documentation bundled with such a small package?06:19
\shRiddell: are u attending the backports meeting06:20
hussamwhy does firefox leak so much memory? I have only one window with one tab open on it's using more than 100MB ram06:20
philipacamaniachussam: have you upgraded to the latest package?06:20
hussamI'm using 1.0.4 from mozilla.org06:21
philipacamaniachmm06:21
Riddellphilipacamaniac: nope, just copyright06:21
Riddell\sh: when is it?  is there an agenda?06:21
\shRiddell: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UbuntuBackports06:21
\sh1930utc06:21
Riddellhmm, I note Kubuntu is named there06:22
philipacamaniachussam: did the official ubuntu packages have the same problem?06:23
hussamphilipacamaniac: I never tried them. I either use binaries compiled by a friend of mine, or mozilla.org binaries.06:24
\shyeah it was me06:24
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philipacamaniachussam: If you're using Kubuntu (which I must assume you are), really should try the official package version. It doesn't have any memory leaks on the many systems I've tried. On one system, however, all versions of Firefox caused a CPU leak.06:26
Riddell\sh:  :)06:26
philipacamaniachussam: it turned out to be hardware on that one system06:27
\shand I'm trying to do my taxes...so i need bloody windows xp running under qemu ;)06:27
hussamphilipacamaniac: should I try then one from backports? is it better?06:27
philipacamaniac\sh: I was going to shudder, but had to stop since I'm using XP at the moment06:28
hussamWhat happens is that when I open and close a tab, the memory usage gradually gets higher.06:28
philipacamaniachussam: you can try the backports package, but the official package in the ubuntu.com repo has been updated as well06:29
\shphilipacamaniac: i don't like it, but there is no "PC" linux solution...wine is not working, and the software for linux which is available is also only wine crap06:29
philipacamaniac\sh: I hate XP, but have to run it on my laptop for various reasons (which I won't bother going into)06:30
philipacamaniac1930UTC, I think that's 12:30PM Arizona... (bloody time warp)06:32
RiCo0hussam where are you from ?06:32
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hussamRiCo0: originally from Egypt. but I left there when I was a kid.06:34
RiCo0ohh i see06:34
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hussamI have a kopete(msn) question. Some people added me to there contact list. I blocked them and removed them from my contact list.06:53
hussamnow these people removed me from their list06:53
hussambut they are still on my blocked list06:54
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hussamis there anyway to remove somebody from blocked list without adding him to allow list?06:54
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runelindI'm trying to get my radeon mobility to work with kubuntu06:57
runelindcurrently it is non-accelerated06:57
runelindI tried this link http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aunofficial&q=linux+radeon+mobility+7500&btnG=Search06:57
runelinderm06:57
runelindhttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-32015.html06:57
runelindbut I wasn't sure how to get the dri drivers06:58
hussambrb07:00
philipacamaniacI can't seem to figure out the deb package system - I read through http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-debpkg.html, but it seems to apply to building from source. I have no source - it is a shell script and a .desktop file. Any helpful links would be appreciated.07:00
runelindI put dri in /etc/modules.conf07:04
runelindbut I don't see anything about it in dmesg07:05
Firetechphilipacamaniac:  what is it that you want to package (I don't know packaging, I'm just curious)07:05
_Church_Of_Foamyis there away to check the dependancys for a file you want to install?07:08
philipacamaniacFiretech: I'm trying to package my Kubuntu Package Menu - www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=2398107:10
FiretechI figured that out...07:10
philipacamaniacahh07:10
FiretechI'm using it, but only v.1.007:11
Firetechjust figured out that it was yours :)07:11
philipacamaniac1.3 has a security update, so you should consider upgrading07:11
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philipacamaniacI would say "just install the deb" but, damn07:12
FiretechI have installed it now.07:13
Firetechactually, I'm using those menus pretty little, I'm a console junkie...07:13
philipacamaniacI am too, but is sure is useful for noobs07:14
Firetechyeah07:14
FiretechI installed it when I helped a friend to install kubuntu :)07:14
philipacamaniaccool07:14
runelindso no thoughts on getting the radeon mobility to work eh?07:15
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philipacamaniacrunelind: I have a radeon 9700 pro with 3D accell working, but that doesn't help you07:16
runelind:P07:16
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Firetechrunelind: have you installed the "xorg-driver-fglrx" package?07:16
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Firetechand changed from ati to fglrx in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?07:17
zAo^how can I brun MP3 with K3B ?07:17
runelindI have the package, let me try changing my xorg.conf07:17
Firetechrunelind: only change the "Driver" line under "Device"07:18
runelindok, I can undo all the other changes I tried earlier07:18
FiretechDriver[tab] "ati" -> Driver[tab] "fglrx"07:18
runelindyep07:19
Firetechthen logout and press ctrl+alt+backspace07:19
runelindtesting now07:19
CuraltonzAo^: select file -> new project -> audio CD07:19
Firetechphilipacamaniac: I raised your menu's ranking with 1% :D07:20
zAo^Curalton: I know, but I get a MP3 codec-error07:20
philipacamaniacFiretech: woot!07:21
Firetechatleast it got raised when I clicked on "good" once07:21
philipacamaniacThey have a strange voting system on kde-look / kde-apps07:22
CuraltonzAo^: works here, sure its a normal MP3 file and not something fancy?07:22
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Firetechrunelind: any progress?07:24
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Firetechyou can test if you get acelleratet by running glxgears from konsole07:25
linuxruleshi guys !07:25
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runelindFiretech: x wouldn't start :(07:28
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Firetechrunelind: 2 sec07:28
runelindI can paste my xorg.conf file07:28
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Firetechrunelind: try running "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`"07:30
runelindok I will try that07:30
runelindin the meantime, here is my xorg.conf file http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/kArac040.html07:30
zAo^Curalton: ok. No, its just 192k/s mp307:30
runelindsays it is already the newest version07:31
CuraltonzAo^: sorry, no idea then :S - maybe see if the #k3b guys know if they can make something from the debug output07:31
Firetechhmm07:32
runelindit is a 16 meg radeon mobility in my dell inspiron laptop07:32
zAo^k thnx07:32
Firetechrunelind: what do you get if you run "lsmod | grep fglrx07:34
Firetechno quote there07:34
runelindnothin07:34
runelindlet me double check that everything is installe..07:35
runelindd07:35
Firetechthen do "sudo modprobe fglrx" and try restarting x with fglrx... read this too: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&highlight=fglrx07:35
FiretechI have stuff to do, and besides, I'm using an nVidia card...07:35
runelindsays no such device when I did modprobe..07:36
FiretechI have installed fglrx for a friend though.07:36
Firetechread the link I gave you07:36
runelindk, thanks07:36
FiretechI have to compress a paper about how the radio affected the "childhood" of Swedish democracy (which I wrote, 6 pages.) into a one page popular science article...07:38
runelindheh, I'm from .se07:39
Firetechyou too?07:39
runelindI live in the US now, but I grew up outside of Vasteras07:39
FiretechI'm from outside Lund.07:39
runelindah, cool :)07:39
FiretechDo you want to read it?07:39
runelindsure, send me the link07:40
Firetechit's in Swedish...07:40
runelindI think I can manage ;)07:40
Firetech:P07:40
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Firetechrunelind:  priv07:42
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philipacamaniacRiddell: In a binary package (with no source), I put control file, copyright, etc. etc. into /DEBIAN, is that correct?07:44
philipacamaniacas opposed to /debian07:45
Riddellphilipacamaniac: all packages have source07:45
philipacamaniacthen I'm confused07:46
philipacamaniacRiddell: So I can consider my tar.gz the source07:48
philipacamaniacdpkg is a beast07:48
Riddellit all makes sense once you get the hang of it07:49
philipacamaniachope so07:49
\shinfo make ;)07:49
\shfirst step to the debian magic ;)07:49
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Riddellyou need a debian directory in the sources, control and rules etc  then run debuild to make the package07:49
philipacamaniacok07:50
ShuddertrixI'm having problems with the livecd, is that what the topic is for?07:50
FiretechShuddertrix: not really...07:51
Mezoooh :D07:51
Mezkde 3.4.107:51
Mez :D07:51
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Firetechthe live cd in the topic is for kde 3.4.107:51
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Shuddertrixoh07:52
Shuddertrixwell, i've burned the regular livecd 3 times now, and it keeps failing on loading ethdetect07:52
Mezerm07:52
Mezshould i use the kubuntu miropr or the mirrored files from kde org that say they;re for kubuntu07:52
philipacamaniackubuntu.org will be faster07:53
Mezreally?07:53
MezI'm usaing mirror.ac.uk and I've got them all already07:53
Shuddertrixkubuntu.org was able to max out my connection07:53
Mezmirror.ac.uk always works well for me :D07:54
Shuddertrixi've only seen a few servers do that07:54
Mezbut... *shrugs*07:54
Mezer.... so it's safe to use the kde.org ones then07:54
Shuddertrixyeah07:54
Mezgood :D07:54
Mezjust cheking07:54
Mezgrr07:54
philipacamaniacYes, the same maintainer built them both07:54
MezIt's trying to update wine aswell07:54
Shuddertrixhey, that directory has one with koffice. click.07:54
Mezwhich is taking ages :D07:54
Shuddertrixi'm almost ready to try burning it to a dvd-r or some other media to get the livecd working07:55
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philipacamaniacRiddell: my brain is now about as useful as fried glue, so I'll continue this deb package adventure tomorrow. If you were looking at putting it into Breezy, it is GPL, so have at it.07:56
philipacamaniacShuddertrix: have you tried redownloading the iso?07:57
Shuddertrixphilipacamaniac: twice07:57
Shuddertrixsame md5sum as the MD5SUMS file, also, on both downloads07:57
philipacamaniachave you tried another computer?07:58
insanekane\sh: btw, pykde doesn't work ... sip complains about versions07:58
Shuddertrixno07:58
Shuddertrixlet me check07:58
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\shinsanekane: ?? 07:59
\shinsanekane: can u send me the errors?07:59
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insanekane\sh: actually, even the errors are wierd: i get a string, in which I can see the placeholders like "hello %s" ...08:00
insanekane\sh: it was a runtime exception08:00
Shuddertrixdoes the kubuntu livecd load up k-meleon in Windows?08:01
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ShuddertrixMy other box (running XP) is complaining that k-meleon.exe is trying to start08:01
\shhmm08:01
Shuddertrix,, i guess it does ..08:02
insanekane\sh: anyway, thankfully, i had a set of precompiled sources, and i did an evil thing: i deployed directly from sources than using .deb :/08:02
\shinsanekane: should we try and use python-qt3 3.14.1?08:02
insanekane\sh: yes ... the sources i use is python-qt3 3.14.108:02
philipacamaniacokay I'm finally testing the 5.04.1 livecd08:03
insanekanealong with the pykde snapshot and spi4.208:03
insanekaneerr ..08:03
insanekanesip08:03
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\shinsanekane: well...python-qt3 in hoary has some pitfalls...08:03
\shyes08:03
Shuddertrixi hope it gets the right refresh rate for the monitor08:04
insanekane\sh: oh ?08:04
Mezso when will kde 3.4.1 be updated in main ?08:04
insanekane\sh: is there some problem in the packaging ?08:04
philipacamaniacMez: Breezy08:04
Shuddertrixit's some weird sony monitor, runs at some weird refresh rate that I can't remember (60hz looks horrible on it, but it runs..)08:04
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\shinsanekane: no..3.13.x is the problem08:04
Mezlmao typical08:04
insanekane\sh: actually, i will look into the packaging aspect ... will going through the packaging of pyqt etc, help me to make packages for my own libraries/applications ?08:05
Mezarent the MOTU going to update it at least?08:05
philipacamaniacNo, much of KDE is in main, not universe. You can find semi-official updated packages (see topic).08:05
seek205Do I just put the kde 341 source in my list and then do a apt-get upgrade?08:06
Mezyeah philipacamaniac I'm already updating ;)08:06
Mezseek08:06
Shuddertrixseek205: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade kde <- that worked for me08:06
Mezsudo apt-get update08:06
Mezthen sudo apt-get dist-upgrade08:06
seek205ah ok08:07
Mezthat worked for me08:07
seek205heh08:07
Mezwell, is working08:07
\shinsanekane: it will take a while, until i backported the python-qt3 package..it's already 3.14.1 in breety08:07
\sh-t+z08:07
seek205ok thanks alot08:07
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insanekane\sh: ok, how are u doing the backport ? is there any source code changes involved ? or only in the debian/ directory of the package ?08:08
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insanekane\sh: because i want to try to bug fix the package08:08
Mezhmm08:08
Mezeird08:08
MezI got half way thought upgrading KDE and this happened08:09
Mezoh wait08:09
Mezit just errored out08:09
Meznow I can only get this08:09
MezThe following packages have unmet dependencies:08:09
Mez  kdebase: Depends: kdebase-bin (>= 4:3.4.1-0ubuntu0hoary1) but 4:3.4.0-0ubuntu18 is installed08:09
insanekane\sh: i will download the .tar.gz, .dsc and diff.gz from breezy repository and try to backport08:10
MezUnpacking replacement kdebase-bin ...08:11
Mezdpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-bin_4%3a3.4.1-0ubuntu0hoary1_i386.deb (--unpack):08:11
Mez trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde3/kgreet_winbind.la', which is also in package kdm08:11
Mezdpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)08:11
MezErrors were encountered while processing:08:11
Mez /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-bin_4%3a3.4.1-0ubuntu0hoary1_i386.deb08:11
MezE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)08:11
ShuddertrixSame exact problem, philipacamaniac 08:11
ShuddertrixStops at Retriving ethdetect08:11
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insanekaneMez: maybe bug in the kde packages ... like python-kde08:11
\shinsanekane: yeah...u have to take a closer look to the qt versions used in the depends and build-depends08:11
Shuddertrixsays Failure to load from CDROM08:12
Mezshould i uninstall kdm? then try again ?08:12
philipacamaniacMez: I didn't have problems on two computers I tried, but I did sudo apt-get upgrade then dist-upgrade08:12
insanekane\sh: ok i will try it and report later (when im less stoned) ;)08:12
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ShuddertrixThe other computer took an amazingly long time to load the modules, too08:13
philipacamaniacShuddertrix: is that the new LiveCD with 3.4.1?08:14
Shuddertrixphilipacamaniac: No, the standard one08:14
Mezah fekc I'm screwed?08:14
ShuddertrixRight now i'm downloading 5.04.1+koffice one08:14
Shuddertrixthe08:14
Mezany ideas what to do08:14
ShuddertrixMez: What about a sudo apt-get upgrade kde ?08:15
insanekaneMez: dpkg -i --force-overwrite08:15
uniqmez: remove kdm first, and try again.08:15
MezI cant remove kdm08:16
uniqwhy? 08:16
Mezmez@apathy:~$ sudo apt-get remove kdm08:16
MezReading package lists... Done08:16
MezBuilding dependency tree... Done08:16
MezYou might want to run apt-get -f install to correct these:08:16
MezThe following packages have unmet dependencies:08:16
Mez  kdebase: Depends: kdebase-bin (>= 4:3.4.1-0ubuntu0hoary1) but 4:3.4.0-0ubuntu18 is to be installed08:16
MezE: Unmet dependencies. Try apt-get -f install with no packages (or specify a solution).08:16
Shuddertrixhey, it's done downloading already08:16
Mezmez@apathy:~$                                                                                                 08:16
Mezthats why08:16
philipacamaniacamu: 5.04.1 Live CD is working (on vmware hardware). Are the 2 icons on the desktop usually there in the LiveCD? That's different from standard Kubuntu.08:16
philipacamaniacShuddertrix: Run an MD5 check on that one!08:17
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Mezok I think i got it working08:19
philipacamaniacWhat was the problem?08:19
Shuddertrixphilipacamaniac: c6deb1dc78a351dc3869e9be2c094f7a vs. c6deb1dc78a351dc3869e9be2c094f7a , looks fine here08:20
Shuddertrix(second one is what i downloaded)08:20
philipacamaniacShuddertrix: wow fast connection08:20
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Shuddertrixphilipacamaniac: 520KBytes/sec Average from kubuntu.org08:21
Shuddertrixthat's my cap08:21
Shuddertrixtook just under 20 minutes, which to me, is acceptable08:21
SpookyETIs anybody running suse 9.3 ?08:21
ShuddertrixSpookyET: This is #kubuntu, not #suse (not sure if they have a channel or not?)08:22
SpookyETwrong window08:22
Shuddertrixphilipacamaniac: You think I should use a blank DVD-R or a erased CD-RW (my only format options)08:23
SpookyEThttp://backports.ubuntuforums.org hoary-backports-staging/main gnome-btdownload 0.0.20-1~5.04ubp108:23
SpookyET  401 Authorization Required08:23
philipacamaniactry a blank DVD-R08:23
ShuddertrixSpookyET: You have to use backports mirrors now, see the forums08:23
Shuddertrixphilipacamaniac: Ok.08:23
ShuddertrixI have 2 left, if this doesn't work I'm going to cry08:24
Shuddertrixagh no, i have 1 left!08:24
philipacamaniac?08:24
ShuddertrixWhy do they put the black plastic discs at the bottoms and top of CD spindles?08:24
Shuddertrixblank, i mean08:24
philipacamaniacThat's a real good question... Do you have vmware or qemu?08:25
ShuddertrixI have vmware08:25
philipacamaniacTry the iso in vmware08:25
ShuddertrixAlready starting to boot.08:25
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ShuddertrixWow, it boots a lot faster then a disc (obvious)08:27
ShuddertrixIt got past it08:27
SpookyETShuddertrix: were you able to get any of the mirrors listed for kde341 to work?08:27
ShuddertrixDetecting network hardware08:27
ShuddertrixSpookyET: I used the one in the topic, works like a charm08:27
Shuddertrixpreparing session, yip! Although, philipacamaniac , what if it doesn't burn right?08:28
ShuddertrixI should probably verify the data, i haven't been doing that..08:28
philipacamaniacI never do, but yeah, do that.08:28
philipacamaniacMay have a burner issue  :(08:28
ShuddertrixI hope not :(08:29
ShuddertrixIt burns and reads really well08:29
ShuddertrixI just hope it's the CD-RW08:29
Mezok08:29
ShuddertrixBoots into Kubuntu perfectly.08:29
Mezi think i have it working08:29
MezConfiguration file `/etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc'08:29
Mez ==> Modified (by you or by a script) since installation.08:29
Mez ==> Package distributor has shipped an updated version.08:29
Mez   What would you like to do about it ?  Your options are:08:29
Mez    Y or I  : install the package maintainer's version08:29
Mez    N or O  : keep your currently-installed version08:29
Mez      D     : show the differences between the versions08:29
Mez      Z     : background this process to examine the situation08:29
Mez The default action is to keep your current version.08:29
Mez*** kdmrc (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N]  ?                                           08:29
philipacamaniacShuddertrix: awesome08:29
Mezwhat do i do there08:29
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philipacamaniacMez: Y08:29
Mezbecause I want to know what to do (sorry couldnt reisist hte joke)08:30
torandoes anyone have experience getting kmuddy [ http://kmuddy.net ]  running on kubuntu?08:30
philipacamaniacThat is normal, I got it too08:30
Shuddertrixkoffice works too, if anyone was wondering about the 5.04.1+koffice iso08:30
philipacamaniacWhere is that iso, btw?08:30
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Mezrebooting X08:30
Mezcause it's still reporting as kde 3.4.008:31
SpookyEThow do you stop apt-get i'm getting a billion 404s. it's never stopping08:31
Shuddertrixhttp://www.kubuntu.org/~amu/kubuntu-5.04.1+koffice-i386-live.iso08:31
Shuddertrixor just browse the directory, too08:31
thoreauputicSpookyET: try ctrl+c08:31
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mezyay08:32
mez3.4.108:32
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Shuddertrixkonqueror and akregrator both work fine too08:32
philipacamaniactastes good, eh?08:32
mezwhy does kMix load in a window everytime I log in08:32
Shuddertrixso the network isn't screwed up as an effect or anything08:32
philipacamaniacShuddertrix: does that version not have openoffice?08:32
Shuddertrixphilipacamaniac: No openoffice, but I perfer koffice for some reason08:32
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philipacamaniacI want to prefer koffice...08:33
ShuddertrixIt's all KDE applications. :D08:33
SpookyETwhat's the command to update kde to 3.4.1?08:33
ShuddertrixSpookyET: I used sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade kde to get mine to upgrade08:33
mezdont ask me 08:34
mezI cocked my upgrade up :d08:34
mezfixed it now though08:34
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mezhad to get out my kubuntu CD though08:34
hrqhvshi, i have a rather simple question: how do i install kget?08:34
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Shuddertrixvmware has about 26mb of free/buffered memory, neat08:35
SpookyETweird08:35
SpookyETi tried to do 08:35
Shuddertrixhave never seen kde take up about 128mb of memory before, it's always been about 200mb08:35
SpookyETapt-get install ubuntu-desktop and i get 08:35
SpookyETThe following packages have unmet dependencies:08:35
SpookyET  ubuntu-desktop: Depends: mozilla-firefox-gnome-support08:35
SpookyETi got firefox installed08:35
philipacamaniacShuddertrix: I'm a Windows network administrator at a school, and I use OOo on lab computers, and MSO on staff computers. I can't feasibly use KOffice without at least having OOo installed.08:36
mezhrqhvs, sudo apt-get install kget08:36
Shuddertrixphilipacamaniac: Yeah, i don't like OOo because it never works right on my other computer08:36
ShuddertrixIt's too slow for it, koffice is just right08:36
ShuddertrixMSO is just right, also..08:37
philipacamaniacBoy, I was sure mentioning my Windows-related occupation would have been flamebait here :)08:37
Curaltonhah08:37
SpookyETneah08:37
Shuddertrixlol08:37
SpookyETthis is not #debian08:37
StRphilipacamaniac: koffice works without OOo.. yes?  can I replace OOo with koffice.. no... 08:37
SpookyET#debian is where the animals on irc are08:37
StRSpookyET: LOL08:38
philipacamaniacStR: yes, but you can't very well open and save Microsoft format files08:38
hrqhvsmez, says the package not found08:38
SpookyETkoffice isn't good enough08:38
ShuddertrixMicrosoft format files scare me.08:38
SpookyETShuddertrix: doc is the standard08:38
mezhrqhvs, hmm one sec08:39
StRphilipacamaniac: open MSoffice with koffice?  no...  08:39
StRBRB08:39
ShuddertrixStandards scare me.08:40
mezhrqhvs, read http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#repositories and do that08:40
SpookyETi remember in suse, in KControl, I had a monitor with arrows to move the image left, up, down, right.  I don't see that in kubuntu.  It's weird, on windows the image is centred. in kubuntu, it is half of a cm to the right. same res, refresh rate08:40
mezte extra repositories,08:40
philipacamaniacI REALLY hope OpenDocument takes off, because I'm tired of everyone (myself included) being so dependant on ms formats08:40
mezthen run the command i told you above08:40
philipacamaniacShuddertrix:  LOL08:40
hrqhvsmez, thanks08:41
meznp08:41
SpookyETi'm tired of having to mess with the monitor controls each time i boot each os08:41
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StRso.. what whas it?08:42
philipacamaniacKOffice is not dependant on OOo08:42
Firetechhummzie... the system stuck...08:42
SpookyETKOffice users are dependent on OO08:42
StRphilipacamaniac: koffice is not dependant on OOo.. right08:43
StRSpookyET: koffice users are dependent on OOo? wrong08:43
philipacamaniacSpookyET: I'll give you that08:43
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Firetechmy syslog said something about my CD, which I wasn't using...08:43
StRphilipacamaniac: can you see all MSoffice files with koffice? wrong08:43
ShuddertrixI don't read ms type files..08:43
StRFiretech: maybe "insert CD"?08:44
ShuddertrixIf it's sent from someone in the workplace, I tell them to stop using crossover office+ms office to send me files.. ><08:44
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FiretechStR: no08:44
SpookyETgnumerics is a good alternative to excell08:44
Firetechcould  not send command or something like that...08:45
Firetechand I had 8 days of uptime :(08:45
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philipacamaniacShuddertrix: your workplace uses Linux?08:45
StRFiretech: you? or your pc?08:46
Firetechmy pc08:46
Shuddertrixphilipacamaniac: Yup. We've made the switch this school year (it's a school, i call it a workplace) to 90% linux, 10% mac (for compatibility reasons08:46
hrqhvsmez, that worked - thanks08:46
ShuddertrixI did all the installing.08:46
mezno problem08:46
philipacamaniacShuddertrix: where, if I may ask? I'm wanting to do the same thing at my workplace (also a school)08:46
mezI know it worked :D without you telling me :d08:46
mezhehe08:46
SpookyETi've seen macs at my uni08:46
SpookyETprobably 99% winblows08:46
SpookyET1% mac08:47
ShuddertrixWe're in a small town..08:47
Shuddertrixin Ohio.08:47
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SpookyETthat explains it08:47
nmorseThe uni I'm going to in the fall keeps Sun boxes08:47
FiretechStR: "Jun  1 20:28:02 localhost kernel: hdc: ATAPI reset timed-out, status=0x80"08:47
philipacamaniacOh man, they have a way better Dept of Ed than Arizona08:47
Firetechthe next line after that one is reboot08:47
ShuddertrixWe have a big technology budget that we are spending on new server hardware, so we switched to linux instead of windows server 2003 (servers) and XP (workstations)08:47
SpookyETatlanta is like 45 out of 5008:47
philipacamaniacShuddertrix: So your admin staff is using Linux?08:48
ShuddertrixSaved us money, and it's eaiser for me to manage08:48
SpookyETShuddertrix, how much have you saved?08:48
philipacamaniacno kidding, on the manage part08:48
ShuddertrixSpookyET: We can afford 4 new Opteron servers instead of 3. Which will help the aging dual pIII's a lot08:48
Shuddertrixphilipacamaniac: Get this, i only handled 2 more calls per day this past year also08:49
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SpookyETi'm in package hell08:49
ShuddertrixThat's only 7 calls in one day. It's awesome.08:49
SpookyETkde upgrade refuses to install. ubuntu refuses to install08:49
ShuddertrixI was expecting like 20 calls/day08:49
philipacamaniacYou've inspired me with a newfound ambition to go through with a migration08:49
Shuddertrixphilipacamaniac: The thing is, all the teachers got 1 month of training with Linux08:50
philipacamaniacI can do that with my eyes closed08:50
ShuddertrixAnd the students learn linux in the school-wide linux class now, once a week for 2 periods of the day, taught by me08:50
ShuddertrixI get to do that again in 4 years. Heh.08:51
SpookyEThigh school?08:51
ShuddertrixSpookyET: K-1208:51
SpookyETk-12 is also high school08:51
philipacamaniacStop Stop!  You're making me jealous. I'm still stuck in Windows muck.08:51
ShuddertrixSpookyET: Exactly.08:51
ShuddertrixIt's all 13 grades in one school08:52
philipacamaniacCharter?08:52
ShuddertrixSmall classes08:52
ShuddertrixPublic08:52
ShuddertrixIt's a small town.08:52
philipacamaniacPublic Charter?08:52
philipacamaniacOH08:52
ShuddertrixVery, very small08:52
ShuddertrixOne school.08:52
SpookyETpop?08:52
ShuddertrixLots of country kids, you get the district08:52
StRSmall Classes - public:       class Small { public static void Main(){} }08:53
Choubaka-_- 08:53
philipacamaniacWe've got 4 aging PIII servers, some useless IP/TV equipment, and lots of brand new Dells (with XP installed).08:54
Shuddertrixouch08:54
nmorseThe only *nix box in the local high school here is an aging FreeBSD mail server08:54
SpookyETi have to crawl 32 km at 8 km/h to get to school with a trillion other cars08:54
philipacamaniacHowever, I have all students using OOo and Firefox08:54
Shuddertrixwe have 5 aging PIII servers and one VERY FAST opteron server.08:54
StRphilipacamaniac: OOo? or OOo2?08:54
Shuddertrixbuying 2 servers this year.08:55
philipacamaniacOOo1.1.4 08:55
nmorseBy aging I mean Pentium (without a number)08:55
philipacamaniac2 is still in beta08:55
Shuddertrixthen next year, i'm hiring a group to move the site over to PHP code and upgrade the opteron servers08:55
Shuddertrixlife is good.08:55
StRShuddertrix: in what is it coded now?08:55
SpookyETno mono and asp.net for you?08:56
ShuddertrixStR: Some ASP stuff that I can't handle using anymore. Clunky, slow, maybe the Opteron will help a bit with the slow issue however08:56
philipacamaniacI already recoded most of our site, in preparation.08:56
ShuddertrixIt's a jumbled mess thrown together from the last adminstrator08:56
SpookyETi assume that by asp you mean asp 3.008:56
Shuddertrixyeah08:56
Shuddertrixmaybe mono/asp.net, we'll have to see08:57
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SpookyETyou might like Boo08:57
SpookyETi wish vmware was like xen08:57
philipacamaniacPHP all the way08:58
SpookyETupgraded kde08:58
SpookyETgot to restart08:58
ShuddertrixOh, and this year we might be taking one of the computer labs and setting it up as a f@h room when no one is using them08:58
nmorseyou are lucky, shuddertrix08:59
philipacamaniacI made one of ours a s@h room, but it kept tripping circuit breakers08:59
nmorseSETI makes a great server burn test though08:59
ShuddertrixThere is a giant electric overhaul at the school right now, i can't do anything for awhile08:59
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Goshawkhi to all09:00
ShuddertrixWhatever the RMA is, k3b is updating it..09:00
Goshawki'm trying to save a stream with kaffeine but when i press R (save stream) kaffeine crashes. Does it do the same on your system?09:01
ShuddertrixIt took 1 minute to burn, i'm serious09:01
ShuddertrixDVD4.31x speed09:01
nmorseUpgrade kaffeine, Goshawk09:01
ShuddertrixThat scared me09:01
Firetechyou guys are making me jealous too... The sysadmin on my school (equivalent to upper secondary) thinks that Linux is bad language (swearing, that is..)09:01
Shuddertrixit ejected the disc and reloaded it.. 3 times09:01
Goshawknmorse: i come from ubuntu, should i add another line to my etc/apt/sources.list09:01
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Goshawk?09:01
nmorseadd this line to your repos list in Synaptic (or your /etc/apt/sources.list): deb http://kubuntu.org/ hoary-updates main09:02
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nmorsethe do 'apt-get update; apt-get upgrade (or dist-upgrade if you prefer)09:02
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SpookyETback09:02
Goshawknmorse: ok thanks09:02
FiretechShuddertrix: what is f@h?09:03
ShuddertrixFiretech: folding@home09:03
_Church_Of_Foamyhow many of you guys dual boot with xp?09:03
SpookyETi need help with apt-get install ubuntu-desktop09:03
Goshawk_Church_Of_Foamy: me09:03
_Church_Of_Foamyis it stable?09:03
Firetechah, came to think about that half a second before you answered...09:03
philipacamaniacShuddertrix: did you document the migration?09:03
nmorseI dual-booted with XP until SP2 killed it09:03
Goshawk_Church_Of_Foamy: sure09:03
philipacamaniac_Church: yes09:03
Shuddertrixphilipacamaniac: No, sadly09:03
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_Church_Of_Foamyi hate having to use xp because i have found linux to be so much beter09:03
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SpookyETubuntu-desktop:09:03
SpookyET Depends: mozilla-firefox-gnome-support09:03
nmorseXP is the devil09:03
_Church_Of_Foamybut it can't run my game :(09:03
nmorseWhat game?09:04
_Church_Of_Foamyragnarok09:04
nmorseHmmm.09:04
_Church_Of_Foamyit starts to load the map then it crashes09:04
_Church_Of_Foamyand i can't seem to fix it no matter what i do09:04
nmorseYou running it in dx9wine?09:04
_Church_Of_Foamyit's the only reason i could possibly need xp09:04
_Church_Of_Foamyyes09:04
ShuddertrixJust pretty much.. switched09:05
nmorseThe one from linux-gamers.net?09:05
_Church_Of_Foamysame here09:05
Firetech_Church_Of_Foamy: cedega?09:05
_Church_Of_Foamyit will run it but not connect to the internet09:05
ShuddertrixI kept a voice log of the training for the teachers, however09:05
philipacamaniacShuddertrix: That's insane. I've been prepping for a long time: http://southgateaz.org/linux/software.htm09:05
_Church_Of_Foamyi just hate xp i switched about a month ago and have been very happy with kubuntu09:06
ShuddertrixOh, you mean something like that?09:06
_Church_Of_Foamyi'd hate to have to go back with my head hanging09:06
ShuddertrixI had something like that, and I found everything we needed within a week.09:06
philipacamaniacWell, and a log of problems you encountered09:06
_Church_Of_Foamyand no one seems to be able to tell me how to get it to work09:06
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nmorseChurch_of_Foamy: what version of wine are you running?09:07
_Church_Of_Foamyas far as i know the current version 09:07
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_Church_Of_Foamysame with dx9wine09:07
_Church_Of_Foamythey did awsome ^_^09:07
ShuddertrixWe don't run handhelds, and if we need a program to run, we have Crossover office to help us.09:07
ShuddertrixI encountered only 2 problems09:08
nmorseOk, so the problem is that you can't connect to the internet with it?09:08
_Church_Of_Foamyi tryed crossover and it won't run the game either09:08
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Shuddertrix_Church_Of_Foamy: crossover isn't for games, cedega or dx9wine is09:08
_Church_Of_Foamyi figured that out lol09:09
philipacamaniacShuddertrix: ok, so you paid for a crossover license... what distro? Kubuntu?09:09
Shuddertrix1 was that the terminal commands would need to be learned (I never thought of that) and the second was that a few art programs didn't work09:09
_Church_Of_Foamyi just don't know what i'm doin wrong09:09
nmorseRight, you said the game plays just fine until you try to go online?09:10
_Church_Of_Foamyand i'd like to make this the only os  to use on my box09:10
Goshawki'm playing a stream.. there is a way to register it?09:10
nmorseAnd then loading the map fails?09:10
_Church_Of_Foamyyup09:10
_Church_Of_Foamyit let's me log in pick my char and when it goes to load the map it get's to 100%09:10
_Church_Of_Foamyand fails09:10
Shuddertrixphilipacamaniac: The labs all run kubuntu (a couple run Gentoo with a similar kubuntu config), and the teachers chose either Ubuntu, Kubuntu, or Slackware (we have a couple cool slackware gurus working here, imagine that) for their own machines09:10
_Church_Of_Foamyi know it can run just don't know what 've done wrong :(09:11
philipacamaniacShuddertrix: Ok no more, that's just too much! I can't take it! :)09:11
Shuddertrix:(09:12
ShuddertrixYou can make the switch over, i know you can ;)09:12
_Church_Of_Foamyi just don't want to go back to xp (not that i payed for it anyways)09:12
ShuddertrixI'm getting sad thinking of the opteron servers being offline right now :(09:13
Shuddertrixerr, server.09:13
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_Church_Of_Foamyso anyone have an idea what might be going on?09:13
ShuddertrixI demand my distcc! :D09:13
ShuddertrixI'm going to see if this dvd works09:14
_Church_Of_Foamy:(09:15
ShuddertrixIt's for a friend to try kubuntu out, but I think i'll play with it for awhile first09:15
Shuddertrixseeing as how it took up minimal resources in vmware :D09:15
_Church_Of_Foamyit's getting to the point where i will pay someone to make the game work09:15
Shuddertrix:D09:15
Shuddertrixthat's it, break down..09:16
Shuddertrixdo it..09:16
Shuddertrix>:D09:16
nmorseChurch_Of_Foamy: have you tried Wine's bugzilla?09:16
nmorseor Fred's(?) Corner?09:16
_Church_Of_Foamyyes they said it was unimportant09:16
Goshawkcan i save a stream (not the stream file but the stream itself with kaffeine?09:16
nmorseDarn it, they won't work on my Rome: Total War either09:16
_Church_Of_Foamyi have 157 people that will switch to linux if it can run ragnarok09:16
nmorse157?09:17
_Church_Of_Foamyyup09:17
nmorseYou pulled that number out of your bum09:17
_Church_Of_Foamyno there freinds and family09:17
nmorseYou have 157 friends and family members who play Ragnarok Online?09:17
_Church_Of_Foamywell about 50 family members09:18
Shuddertrixlol09:18
_Church_Of_Foamymy fiancee got her family addicted to it09:18
_Church_Of_Foamyand most of our freinds play it already09:18
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_Church_Of_Foamybut they all use windows09:18
Shuddertrixthat's sad..09:18
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_Church_Of_Foamyyea it is09:18
_Church_Of_Foamythey like the way kubuntu is though09:19
Shuddertrixno, the fact that most of your friends and family play the game..09:19
_Church_Of_Foamyi let them try it on my box and they want it.....09:19
nmorseWow, I think a freenode server just took a dive09:19
_Church_Of_Foamywell if you've ever played it you'd see it was a great game lol09:19
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_Church_Of_Foamyyup09:20
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Goshawk_Church_Of_Foamy: better mmrpg exists09:20
_Church_Of_Foamyi know09:20
_Church_Of_Foamyi have some of them09:20
Goshawk_Church_Of_Foamy: look at rose or lineage09:20
_Church_Of_Foamybut they seem to like ro09:20
_Church_Of_Foamyand i'd really like to get them off xp09:20
_Church_Of_Foamyrose online is awsome09:21
Slackmanhi how do i change my ubuntu to a kubuntu...i've got kde installed already..but when i try and update it i get09:21
nmorseHow about Guild Wars?09:21
SlackmanThe following packages have unmet dependencies:09:21
Slackman  kdelibs: Depends: kdelibs-data (>= 4:3.4.0-0ubuntu3.2) but 4:3.4.0-0ubuntu3.1 is installed09:21
hussamguys I need help. I have a problem simmilar to this guy here. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3867709:21
_Church_Of_Foamyhaven't tryed it yet but herd it was good09:21
hussamI get no sound from tvtime09:21
nmorseMy friend just bought it to install it on my other PC09:21
_Church_Of_Foamynice how is it?09:21
nmorseHaven't tried it yet09:22
nmorseHe had to leave too soon09:22
_Church_Of_Foamydamn09:22
nmorseI'm going to take one of his characters though and play with it09:22
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_Church_Of_Foamyi know linux can play this game it's handeld everything i've thrown at it so far09:22
nmorsehave you tried going to #wine?09:23
nmorseIs that even an IRC channel?09:23
_Church_Of_Foamyyes there about as much help as a soup sandwich on a rainy day09:23
Shuddertrixwasn't i doing something?09:23
Shuddertrixoh.. wait09:23
Shuddertrixhehe09:23
_Church_Of_Foamyi want to just keep this has a linuxbox i really don't want to do a dual boot09:24
_Church_Of_Foamythats just the same as loosing to winsucks09:24
_Church_Of_Foamyand maybe a slap to linux?09:25
nmorseThere has to be some way to make it run09:25
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nmorseHmm, most of them made it back at once too09:25
_Church_Of_Foamyi know  but i am not knowledgeable enough in linux to do it09:25
nmorseOdd09:25
SlackmanChurch Of Foadmy: losing to winsucks?.....is this some kind of new game?09:26
_Church_Of_Foamyno just they way i feel09:27
_Church_Of_Foamyi just started using kubuntu a moth ago for the first time09:27
_Church_Of_Foamyand i think it's better than microcrap will ever nbe09:27
_Church_Of_Foamyi just don't know enough to make this game work lol09:28
Slackmanwhich game is it?09:28
Slackmanis it a linux game?>09:28
_Church_Of_Foamyno it's called aeRO RagnaroK09:28
_Church_Of_Foamya private ragnarok server built off of the offical client09:28
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nmorseOh, so you're trying to run a private server or are you using the client?09:29
Slackmanright...so is it a windows game then?09:29
_Church_Of_Foamyyes09:29
_Church_Of_Foamyclient09:30
Slackmanthrough Cedega?09:30
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ShuddertrixWell, it boots..09:30
_Church_Of_Foamycedega can run it but not connect to the net09:30
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_Church_Of_Foamyand wine can run it kinda09:30
ShuddertrixThere are 2 problems, however09:30
newz2000sorry, something funky just happened and if anyonre responded I missed it... Anyone here build a custom ubuntu-cd that could give a hand?09:31
ShuddertrixIt didn't work with my sound card.. when it was loading (past "Starting ubuntu") the pc speaker beeped about 5 times, and amixer was scrolling by it's help screen09:31
Slackmankinda? and does cedega work properly aside from the network?09:31
Shuddertrixand the resolutions are screwed up09:31
_Church_Of_Foamyas far as i can tell09:31
_Church_Of_Foamyit works fine with steam09:32
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_Church_Of_Foamyconnects to the net and everything09:32
_Church_Of_Foamyit just seems to be this particular game09:32
ShuddertrixAnyone know what I should do?09:32
Slackmanis that game supported by cedega..i.e how well do they say it will run?09:33
_Church_Of_Foamywell there was a document in there forums where someone got it to run with something called point2play09:33
_Church_Of_Foamybut from what i can figure you have to pay with credit card09:34
_Church_Of_Foamyto get it09:34
Shuddertrix_Church_Of_Foamy: point2play is transgaming's special application for downloading, installing, and running Cedega.. yeah, you have to pay for it09:34
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SlackmanChurch ah, point2play is just cedega front end..its only like 15 dollars or something09:34
_Church_Of_Foamybut i have also herd of people getting it to run without09:34
Slackmanit makes cedega really easy to update09:35
_Church_Of_Foamyyea i kinda figured that09:35
ShuddertrixSlackman: And really easy to use09:35
Slackmanyeh that too :)09:35
ShuddertrixIt does all the commands for you, makes game icons, etc.09:35
_Church_Of_Foamynice09:35
Slackmani'd just find someone with a CC and give em 15 dollars..its not that expensive and its worth it09:35
hussamcan somebody help me figure out why I can't get sound from tvtime?09:35
Slackmanif you wanna play windows game09:35
_Church_Of_Foamycould that have something to do with why it won't connect?09:35
ShuddertrixHow do I fix my resolutions on the livecd?09:36
SlackmanShuddertrix, ctrl alt +/- ?09:36
ShuddertrixSlackman: I'd do that, but I think it got my monitor's config wrong.. let me check09:36
Slackmanthen you'll need to run xcfg i think09:37
ShuddertrixYeah, it did09:37
ShuddertrixWhat route would I take to restart X, then?09:37
ShuddertrixI usually use ctrl+alt+backspace, but I'm not sure if that would work right on the livecd?09:37
Slackmanshould do09:37
_Church_Of_Foamyso do you think that i need the point2play for the game?09:38
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_Church_Of_Foamyto connect to the internet?09:38
ShuddertrixArgh, konqu doesn't mount my drive right. Have to go to the console.. sheesh09:38
Slackmani think it would be easier for you to try that than wrestle with cedega...i don't think you NEED it but its easiest09:38
_Church_Of_Foamyhmmm09:39
Retromandoes anyone know if the 3.4.1 binary included mdnsd support in kdelibs?09:39
_Church_Of_Foamyis there a way to find out why it isen't connecting in cedega?09:39
_Church_Of_Foamylike an error log or something?09:39
ShuddertrixHeh, only a few lines of difference. That's good.09:39
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ShuddertrixChanged the monitor horiz/verti settings to my regular xorg.conf's lines. That shold work.09:40
SlackmanChurch..well you can run it from the CLI and see what errors you get09:40
Shuddertrixs/shold/should09:40
ShuddertrixChange my mouse settings.. that should do it, be right back09:41
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ShuddertrixAh, bliss.09:43
Shuddertrix1152x864 at 75hz. That worked wonderfully09:43
_Church_Of_Foamycool09:43
Slackmanchurch, you might like to try #cedega09:43
ShuddertrixNow, about my sound problem09:43
ShuddertrixIt says it can't find /dev/dsp09:43
_Church_Of_Foamybrb the game crashed and mucked up my display09:44
SlackmanShuddertrix, is it there?09:44
ShuddertrixSadly, no09:44
ShuddertrixThere was some amixer problem when I was booting off the livecd09:44
ShuddertrixCouldn't find /dev/dsp either, I think is what it said09:45
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ShuddertrixI kinda want sound to work..09:45
SlackmanShuddertrix, is your sound card supported...?09:46
ShuddertrixSlackman: It works in regular Kubuntu09:46
ShuddertrixSo you'd think that it would work, you know?09:46
Slackmanerm..why are you using a live cd when you have Kubuntu installed?09:46
ShuddertrixI'm testing the livecd for a friend09:46
_Church_Of_Foamyso any ideas about my predicament?09:47
ShuddertrixHe has a similar box to mine (same hard drive,*sound card*, video card) 09:47
ShuddertrixNot exact same hard drive, of course09:47
SlackmanShuddertrix, ah...erm...dunno then...there isn't much you can do on a live cd though...like if it doesn't detect it doesn't detect...you can try alsaconf09:47
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ShuddertrixThere is no alsaconf :(09:48
Slackmanor try and load the module manually09:48
ShuddertrixThat might work09:48
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Shuddertrix/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/sound/pci/snd-ens1371.ko09:49
Slackmanmodprobe snd-ens137109:50
_Church_Of_Foamyso you think i can motivate people by offering a $100 reward for makeing the game work for the public linux users?09:50
SlackmanChurch i doubt it :P09:50
_Church_Of_Foamyoh well it was worth a try lol09:50
ShuddertrixIt loaded, but it didn't help anything?09:51
Slackmani mean...the 15 dollars is going towards development of wine..09:51
_Church_Of_Foamydo you guys know that microcrap charges for there updates now09:51
_Church_Of_Foamyi could convert so many to linux if this game workd lol09:51
_Church_Of_Foamy<---wishes he was a linux guru 09:52
ShuddertrixThe module loaded, but there's no /dev/dsp and I'm not the greatest with sound in linux09:53
SlackmanShuddertrix, k, sounds like a udev thing\09:53
_Church_Of_Foamydoes anyone know anything about a os called reactos?09:54
_Church_Of_Foamysomeone gave me a cd with this os on it09:55
nekoI have a clean install of kubuntu on my other computer, but the network card is showing as disabled in Control Center, and Control Center won't let me change any settings. Anyone have any ideas on what to check for next?09:55
ShuddertrixHmm09:55
Shuddertrix2-line paste:09:55
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ShuddertrixJun  1 19:27:26 localhost kernel: unable to grab IRQ 1709:55
ShuddertrixJun  1 19:27:26 localhost kernel: ENS1371: probe of 0000:00:09.0 failed with error -1609:55
_Church_Of_Foamyis it possible to put xp on after installing kubuntu?09:56
ShuddertrixThat was before I modprobe'd, however09:56
SlackmanShuddertrix, ah i think it needs to do that IRQ thingo for 2.6.10+ systems09:56
ShuddertrixSilly thing also put up the wrong timezone too ;)09:57
ShuddertrixSlackman: eh?09:57
SlackmanShuddertrix, erm...check out the changlogs for 2.6.1009:57
Slackmanthere is something about irq checks09:58
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Slackmanyou have to pass something to lilo/grub09:59
ShuddertrixEh, i can't find anything..10:00
Slackmanok, when you boot the computer, it will tell you after it loads the kernel..you have to be very quick though10:00
ShuddertrixWould it happen to be in dmesg?10:01
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ShuddertrixStill can't find anything.10:04
ShuddertrixHmm..10:06
ShuddertrixJust ran hotplug and it's slowing everything down!10:06
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Shuddertrixudevd seems to be doing something..10:07
ShuddertrixI think i screwed something up :P10:08
ShuddertrixEh..10:10
Shuddertrixthis is getting weird10:10
ShuddertrixCan't figure out what's using up the cpu10:10
Shuddertrixtop isn't doing sqaut10:10
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seek205ugh how do you install custom mouse cursors in kbuntu?10:12
Shuddertrixps isn't helping either, and there are udev and default.hotplug processes running all over the place10:13
ShuddertrixNot sure if I should kill em'10:14
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ubuntuI fixed it.10:21
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ShuddertrixI guess no one is interested in how I fixed it, either ;)10:22
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ShuddertrixI just wish it would detect my monitor properly.10:24
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schlomoHi10:37
schlomodoes kdialog is present directly in Kubuntu ?10:37
schlomoany idea ?10:38
aseigoyes10:39
aseigoit's part of kdebase and therefore in kubuntu10:40
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schlomook thanks10:41
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reagleBRKLNhas anyone successfully used a web page to help them install freenx? some use different debs for different directions, with different directions, some create a /home/.nx user, some don't, etc. never got it to work with a knoppix or kubuntu install10:44
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Tm_Thullo11:14
hussamTm_T: did you upgrade to kde 3.4.1? I feel like I'm the only person who upgrade. I'm starting to regret that I did so11:17
StRhussam: why?11:19
hussamI am keeping 3.4.1 but if nobody upgraded then I probably shouldn't have done so. Although kde3.4.1 did resolve all the crashes I was having with kmail.11:21
StRI want to use  3.4.111:21
StRI was using breezy (bad idea) and today i'm going to return to hoary and  use 3.4.111:22
hussamStR: same here. I tried breezy but found it too buggy, It would not mount anything. So I formatted, reinstalled hoary and installed kde 3.4.111:23
StRhussam: the same....11:23
hussamIt does feel better than kde 3.4.0 especially kmail and kopete.11:24
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error403how do i upgrade to 3.4.1?11:25
hussamadd this to your /etc/apt/sources.list 11:26
hussam deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary-updates main11:26
hussamthen sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade11:26
Tm_Thussam: I upgraded11:27
error403ok11:27
error403will do11:27
hussamTm_T: did you upgrade kdevelop?11:27
error403how stable is it?11:27
Tm_Thussam: hmm, I'm not sure...11:28
Tm_Terror403: stable11:28
error403good11:28
error403lol11:28
error403i dont like messing with unstable11:28
error403i move to linux because it WORKS11:28
error403lol11:28
hussamerror403: pretty stable. as I said it resolved all problems I had with the previous release.11:28
error403cool11:29
error403will do then11:29
FiretechIt gave me problems with JuK, but I switched to amaroK.11:29
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error403lol11:30
error403is it just me, or can permissions in Kubuntu be a real pain a lot of the time?11:31
Firetechhussam: I agree about kopete, now there's a difference between online and offline icons :)11:31
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hussamFiretech: JuK still works here. but then again I prefer kaffeine.11:32
Firetechhussam: it crashes after playing about 5-20 songs11:32
Tm_TamaroK <3<3<311:32
Firetechmeant 5-10, but 5-20 became better11:32
FiretechamaroK 1.2.4 + aKode is the right for me11:33
hussamFiretech: I can't tell, I only have 3 mp3 files. I usually listen to CDs 11:33
Firetech:P11:33
hussamFiretech: plus kaffeine plays DVDs perfectly.11:33
FiretechI uninstalled kaffeine, using kplayer instead11:33
FiretechXine bugs me.11:33
FiretechI don't have a DVD, so I don't really care11:34
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hussamI used to have a cd writer but I thought I'd get a dvd rom. ( they're pretty cheap )11:35
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hussamFiretech: I might get a dvd burner but I'm looking for a good price.11:36
FiretechOne store is selling Dual Layer DVD burners for 699 SEK (roughly 70)11:36
hussam70 is like how much dollars?11:37
Curalton8011:37
Firetechthat's roughly 70$ too11:37
Firetechpretty roughly11:37
hussamthat's an excellent price.11:38
Firetechgah...11:38
Firetechamarok has crashed again.11:38
Curalton84.70 to be precise, rate is 1.21 atm :)11:38
Firetechamarok crashes after about 35 songs...11:38
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FiretechCuralton: count from SEK instead11:38
FiretechI'm not sure about the SEK ->  currency11:39
Firetech*rate11:39
Curalton93 Dollars even from Swedisch Crowns11:39
StRwho was asking about kdevelop?11:40
hussamstill, imo, anything lees than a 100 dollars for a dual layer dvd burner is good11:40
hussamStR: i was11:40
StRhussam: you use kdevelop to develop what? may I ask?11:40
sirukinI use kdevelop to develop geekly girl arms.11:41
StRI would like to develop with QT#.... but I see the proyect is dead...11:41
hussamStR: 3.2.1 didn't work. I had to downgrade to 3.2.011:41
sirukingtk#11:41
Tm_Teeh11:41
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hussamStR: my sister writes software for university projects 11:41
StRsirukin: yes.. I l know.. but.. I would like to use kdelibs or qt...11:42
hussamStR: this is why I needed kdevelop11:42
StRhussam: in c++?11:42
hussamStR: yeah. but I'm not the programmer here.11:43
hussambrb11:44
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seek205Does anyone know why I can't play sound in fullscreen games? I have sound on the desktop?11:45
StRseek205: like what game?11:46
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seek205um tuxracer11:47
hussamseek205: I had a similar problem in supertux. It went away when I installed libsdl1.2debian-all11:47
Jimi`hello everybody11:48
Jimi`I'm looking for kubuntu italian channel :-)11:48
seek205hussam: thx trying that now11:49
seek205hussam: thanks that worked!11:50
hussamseek205: :)11:50
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Jimi`thanks a lot11:53
Jimi`good bye11:53
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apollo2011I am trying to use Azureus but it doesn't seem to find Java.  I believe kynpatic had installed it but I also just installed it from the java self extracting file.  How do I get Azureus to see it?11:58

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