on kubuntu.org says "Kubuntu - Pure KGX" [04:50] <Riddell> Firetech: KDE GNU Unix [04:51] <Firetech> You probably should add that to the FAQ === zAo^ [~zAo@zAo.xs4all.nl] has joined #kubuntu [04:52] <Firetech> Firetech Ased Questions ;) [04:52] <Firetech> *Asked === regeya [~shane@adsl-sp3-cdale176.micgi.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:55] <Riddell> or come up with a better slogan === shogouki [~nicolas@AMontpellier-251-1-81-62.w83-201.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu [~ubuntu@c-e83a70d5.026-29-73746f25.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu === aliumalik [aliumalik@nusnet-216-63.dynip.nus.edu.sg] has joined #kubuntu === buz [~buz@80-218-107-8.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #kubuntu === brandonn [~brandonn@66-7-184-2.estreet.net] has joined #kubuntu === bisley [~bisley@85.57.4.63] has joined #kubuntu === gnumdk [~gnumdk@ANantes-252-1-5-18.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu === zAo^ [~zAo@zAo.xs4all.nl] has joined #kubuntu === teknoprep [~tek@206.245.146.1] has joined #kubuntu === sirukin [~sirukin@64.247.151.242] has joined #kubuntu === kimo [ahmedy@62.135.53.221] has joined #kubuntu === KaiL [KaiL@p548F5DA7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === hussam [~hussam@194.126.31.19] has joined #kubuntu [05:43] <Firetech> Riddell: why not "A pure KDE OS" or something more idiot friendly ;) [05:44] <Firetech> Yes, I just called myself an idiot. [05:45] <hussam> Firetech: pure KGX sounds more cool, lol [05:45] <Firetech> Pure KLinux? [05:45] <Firetech> nah, sounds too much like Kleenex or how they spell it. [05:45] <kimo> guys, I am facing a strange problem! And I am not a newbie. Any script I try to execute, no matter sh/csh/perl , I get "permission denied, sh/csh/perl bad interpreter!". If I "perl ./script" it works. Any ideas? [05:46] <Firetech> Pure K OS? [05:46] <Firetech> whatever, stuff to do. [05:48] <hussam> Firetech: or maybe, just pure k === Curalton [~thomas@134.76.62.145] has joined #kubuntu === blueyed [~daniel@i528C36EE.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu [05:50] <Firetech> "Pure K", sounds cool. Another alternative (to reflect on ubuntu) is "Pure Human K" [05:54] <hussam> Is it true that there will be a kde based web browser with gecko rendering engine? [05:54] <buz> supposedly you can use gecko as engine for konqueror [05:54] <buz> personally, i'd care more for a kde based browser that can deal with extensions [05:55] <Riddell> there's some code, it doesn't work well currently [05:55] <Riddell> buz: konqueror has extentions [05:55] <buz> compatible with firefox? [05:55] <hussam> Riddell: but this isn't implemented at the moment, right? [05:56] <hussam> like not at least before kde 4.x === kimo_basha [~ahmedy@62.114.194.171] has joined #kubuntu [05:56] <Riddell> hussam: nobody is working on it [05:56] <Riddell> buz: no [05:56] <buz> no point for me then === kimo_basha is now known as kimo_ [05:57] <hussam> the gecko engine is good but firefox itself is not because of the xul interface. === `TUX`` [~princoscr@host148-12.pool8291.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu === gideon [~gideon@aware.demon.nl] has joined #kubuntu [05:58] <buz> i like the xul stuff === KaiL [KaiL@p548F4A77.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:00] <`TUX``> xbase-clients error [06:00] <`TUX``> some trick? [06:00] <hussam> buz: don't you think if it were just cpp , wouldn't it be faster? and it would still run on windows and mac, not just linux. Take for example xchat. [06:00] <buz> well it would be faster [06:00] <`TUX``> xbase-clients postinst warning: /etc/X11/xkb/xkbcomp symbolic link points to wrong location /usr/bin/xkbcomp [06:00] <buz> but nowhere near as flexible === philipacamaniac [~phliipaca@208-47-135-198.dia.cust.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:00] <`TUX``> Riddell: are you there? [06:01] <buz> and surely much less nifty extensions [06:01] <hussam> buz: yeah xul does make creating extensions easier. === Riddell is [06:01] <`TUX``> hi [06:02] <`TUX``> sorry i have this error [06:02] <`TUX``> xbase-clients postinst warning: /etc/X11/xkb/xkbcomp symbolic link points to wrong location /usr/bin/xkbcomp [06:03] <`TUX``> do you need more lines? === KaiL [KaiL@p548F4A77.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:04] <philipacamaniac> has anyone tested the 5.04.1 LiveCD? I'm downloading it now (finally) to test it myself. === RiCo0 [~raji@85.112.64.187] has joined #kubuntu [06:05] <RiCo0> hello === ikypakis [t39@195.245.229.17] has joined #Kubuntu [06:07] <Riddell> TUX: I don't know sorry, I don't do X [06:07] <Riddell> try asking in #ubuntu [06:07] <Riddell> philipacamaniac: nope, my computer decided to crash last night so didn't download [06:07] <`TUX``> ok it broke all kde upgrade [06:07] <Riddell> philipacamaniac: are you planning to make a .deb of your Kubuntu menus? [06:08] <philipacamaniac> I asked the backports folks to do it, but haven't gotten a good response. I'm not experienced with creating debs [06:08] <`TUX``> i can't install no kontact no kdemultimedia no kdegraphics [06:08] <philipacamaniac> I use checkinstall (horrors, I know) normally === error403 [~error403@host86-132-82-160.range86-132.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu [06:09] <philipacamaniac> I suppose I could look at the KubuntuPackage wiki... so, yes I'm planning on making a deb === insanekane [~kane@202.83.42.118] has joined #kubuntu === michelp [~michel@166.170.24.127] has joined #kubuntu [06:11] <Curalton> checkinstall horrors? works good enough for me [06:12] <philipacamaniac> Ever tried redistributing those packages (which, btw, don't conform to deb standards) [06:12] <thoreauputic> Curalton: Ok locally - not OK in terms of correct Debianised debs [06:13] <Curalton> err, yeh. surely not for anything near official [06:14] <Riddell> philipacamaniac: checkinstall? [06:14] <philipacamaniac> Automagic package maker [06:14] <philipacamaniac> for slackware, but now it makes debs [06:16] <philipacamaniac> Riddell: Eventually, I'll have to decide between the 2 versions of my menu - I personally prefer the separate menu, but I suppose to conform to KDE, it should be in the Action Menu. === spiral [~spiral@lafilaire-4-82-224-249-43.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:17] <Riddell> yep [06:17] <philipacamaniac> poo... j/k [06:17] <spiral> hmmm, the livecd on topic... what's new ? [06:17] <Riddell> spiral: KDE 3.4.1 [06:17] <spiral> Riddell: ouah, nice :-) [06:17] <spiral> ;-) === thedman [~thedman@frhsfw.frhs.org] has joined #kubuntu [06:19] <philipacamaniac> Riddell: do I need a man page or documentation bundled with such a small package? [06:20] <\sh> Riddell: are u attending the backports meeting [06:20] <hussam> why does firefox leak so much memory? I have only one window with one tab open on it's using more than 100MB ram [06:20] <philipacamaniac> hussam: have you upgraded to the latest package? [06:21] <hussam> I'm using 1.0.4 from mozilla.org [06:21] <philipacamaniac> hmm [06:21] <Riddell> philipacamaniac: nope, just copyright [06:21] <Riddell> \sh: when is it? is there an agenda? [06:21] <\sh> Riddell: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UbuntuBackports [06:21] <\sh> 1930utc [06:22] <Riddell> hmm, I note Kubuntu is named there [06:23] <philipacamaniac> hussam: did the official ubuntu packages have the same problem? [06:24] <hussam> philipacamaniac: I never tried them. I either use binaries compiled by a friend of mine, or mozilla.org binaries. [06:24] <\sh> yeah it was me === RiCo0 [~raji@85.112.64.187] has joined #kubuntu [06:26] <philipacamaniac> hussam: If you're using Kubuntu (which I must assume you are), really should try the official package version. It doesn't have any memory leaks on the many systems I've tried. On one system, however, all versions of Firefox caused a CPU leak. [06:26] <Riddell> \sh: :) [06:27] <philipacamaniac> hussam: it turned out to be hardware on that one system [06:27] <\sh> and I'm trying to do my taxes...so i need bloody windows xp running under qemu ;) [06:27] <hussam> philipacamaniac: should I try then one from backports? is it better? [06:28] <philipacamaniac> \sh: I was going to shudder, but had to stop since I'm using XP at the moment [06:28] <hussam> What happens is that when I open and close a tab, the memory usage gradually gets higher. [06:29] <philipacamaniac> hussam: you can try the backports package, but the official package in the ubuntu.com repo has been updated as well [06:29] <\sh> philipacamaniac: i don't like it, but there is no "PC" linux solution...wine is not working, and the software for linux which is available is also only wine crap [06:30] <philipacamaniac> \sh: I hate XP, but have to run it on my laptop for various reasons (which I won't bother going into) [06:32] <philipacamaniac> 1930UTC, I think that's 12:30PM Arizona... (bloody time warp) [06:32] <RiCo0> hussam where are you from ? === JensK [~JensK@p54907581.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:34] <hussam> RiCo0: originally from Egypt. but I left there when I was a kid. [06:34] <RiCo0> ohh i see === mrmanic is away (going offline) === mrmanic is now known as mrmanic|afk === mrmanic|afk is now known as mrmanic === spektr [~spektr@M784P017.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu === jellm [~jellm@85-124-21-89.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu [06:53] <hussam> I have a kopete(msn) question. Some people added me to there contact list. I blocked them and removed them from my contact list. [06:53] <hussam> now these people removed me from their list [06:54] <hussam> but they are still on my blocked list === Jeezis is back (gone 11:35:02) [06:54] <hussam> is there anyway to remove somebody from blocked list without adding him to allow list? === runelind [~mattias@inte099185.halls.colostate.edu] has joined #kubuntu [06:57] <runelind> I'm trying to get my radeon mobility to work with kubuntu [06:57] <runelind> currently it is non-accelerated [06:57] <runelind> I tried this link http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aunofficial&q=linux+radeon+mobility+7500&btnG=Search [06:57] <runelind> erm [06:57] <runelind> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-32015.html [06:58] <runelind> but I wasn't sure how to get the dri drivers [07:00] <hussam> brb [07:00] <philipacamaniac> I can't seem to figure out the deb package system - I read through http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-debpkg.html, but it seems to apply to building from source. I have no source - it is a shell script and a .desktop file. Any helpful links would be appreciated. [07:04] <runelind> I put dri in /etc/modules.conf [07:05] <runelind> but I don't see anything about it in dmesg [07:05] <Firetech> philipacamaniac: what is it that you want to package (I don't know packaging, I'm just curious) [07:08] <_Church_Of_Foamy> is there away to check the dependancys for a file you want to install? [07:10] <philipacamaniac> Firetech: I'm trying to package my Kubuntu Package Menu - www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=23981 [07:10] <Firetech> I figured that out... [07:10] <philipacamaniac> ahh [07:11] <Firetech> I'm using it, but only v.1.0 [07:11] <Firetech> just figured out that it was yours :) [07:11] <philipacamaniac> 1.3 has a security update, so you should consider upgrading === _jr [~jr@84.19.224.139] has joined #kubuntu [07:12] <philipacamaniac> I would say "just install the deb" but, damn [07:13] <Firetech> I have installed it now. [07:13] <Firetech> actually, I'm using those menus pretty little, I'm a console junkie... [07:14] <philipacamaniac> I am too, but is sure is useful for noobs [07:14] <Firetech> yeah [07:14] <Firetech> I installed it when I helped a friend to install kubuntu :) [07:14] <philipacamaniac> cool [07:15] <runelind> so no thoughts on getting the radeon mobility to work eh? === ToutPT|ppc|fr [~toutpt@ANantes-151-1-69-210.w81-250.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [07:16] <philipacamaniac> runelind: I have a radeon 9700 pro with 3D accell working, but that doesn't help you [07:16] <runelind> :P === ds9bsd [~ds9@ASt-Lambert-102-1-1-252.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [07:16] <Firetech> runelind: have you installed the "xorg-driver-fglrx" package? === zAo^ [~zAo@zAo.xs4all.nl] has joined #kubuntu [07:17] <Firetech> and changed from ati to fglrx in /etc/X11/xorg.conf? [07:17] <zAo^> how can I brun MP3 with K3B ? [07:17] <runelind> I have the package, let me try changing my xorg.conf [07:18] <Firetech> runelind: only change the "Driver" line under "Device" [07:18] <runelind> ok, I can undo all the other changes I tried earlier [07:18] <Firetech> Driver[tab] "ati" -> Driver[tab] "fglrx" [07:19] <runelind> yep [07:19] <Firetech> then logout and press ctrl+alt+backspace [07:19] <runelind> testing now [07:19] <Curalton> zAo^: select file -> new project -> audio CD [07:20] <Firetech> philipacamaniac: I raised your menu's ranking with 1% :D [07:20] <zAo^> Curalton: I know, but I get a MP3 codec-error [07:21] <philipacamaniac> Firetech: woot! [07:21] <Firetech> atleast it got raised when I clicked on "good" once [07:22] <philipacamaniac> They have a strange voting system on kde-look / kde-apps [07:22] <Curalton> zAo^: works here, sure its a normal MP3 file and not something fancy? === Kyaneos [~kyaneos@160.Red-83-46-78.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === shogouki [~nicolas@AMontpellier-251-1-73-83.w83-201.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [07:24] <Firetech> runelind: any progress? === linuxrules [hidden-use@213.171.250.26] has joined #Kubuntu [07:25] <Firetech> you can test if you get acelleratet by running glxgears from konsole [07:25] <linuxrules> hi guys ! === linuxrules [hidden-use@213.171.250.26] has left #Kubuntu ["Leaving"] [07:28] <runelind> Firetech: x wouldn't start :( === ikypakis [t40@195.245.229.17] has joined #Kubuntu [07:28] <Firetech> runelind: 2 sec [07:28] <runelind> I can paste my xorg.conf file === Firetech is searching for a howto === SpookyET [~Secret@24-196-233-44.cpe.ga.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [07:30] <Firetech> runelind: try running "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`" [07:30] <runelind> ok I will try that [07:30] <runelind> in the meantime, here is my xorg.conf file http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/kArac040.html [07:30] <zAo^> Curalton: ok. No, its just 192k/s mp3 [07:31] <runelind> says it is already the newest version [07:31] <Curalton> zAo^: sorry, no idea then :S - maybe see if the #k3b guys know if they can make something from the debug output [07:32] <Firetech> hmm [07:32] <runelind> it is a 16 meg radeon mobility in my dell inspiron laptop [07:32] <zAo^> k thnx [07:34] <Firetech> runelind: what do you get if you run "lsmod | grep fglrx [07:34] <Firetech> no quote there [07:34] <runelind> nothin [07:35] <runelind> let me double check that everything is installe.. [07:35] <runelind> d [07:35] <Firetech> then do "sudo modprobe fglrx" and try restarting x with fglrx... read this too: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&highlight=fglrx [07:35] <Firetech> I have stuff to do, and besides, I'm using an nVidia card... [07:36] <runelind> says no such device when I did modprobe.. [07:36] <Firetech> I have installed fglrx for a friend though. [07:36] <Firetech> read the link I gave you [07:36] <runelind> k, thanks [07:38] <Firetech> I have to compress a paper about how the radio affected the "childhood" of Swedish democracy (which I wrote, 6 pages.) into a one page popular science article... [07:39] <runelind> heh, I'm from .se [07:39] <Firetech> you too? [07:39] <runelind> I live in the US now, but I grew up outside of Vasteras [07:39] <Firetech> I'm from outside Lund. [07:39] <runelind> ah, cool :) [07:39] <Firetech> Do you want to read it? [07:40] <runelind> sure, send me the link [07:40] <Firetech> it's in Swedish... [07:40] <runelind> I think I can manage ;) [07:40] <Firetech> :P === pv_ [~pv@jt11-57-1.tky.hut.fi] has joined #kubuntu === bhna [~andreas@p54B81762.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [07:42] <Firetech> runelind: priv === michelp [~michel@166.170.6.135] has joined #kubuntu === KaiL is now known as Morgenmufffel === Morgenmufffel is now known as KaiL [07:44] <philipacamaniac> Riddell: In a binary package (with no source), I put control file, copyright, etc. etc. into /DEBIAN, is that correct? [07:45] <philipacamaniac> as opposed to /debian [07:45] <Riddell> philipacamaniac: all packages have source [07:46] <philipacamaniac> then I'm confused [07:48] <philipacamaniac> Riddell: So I can consider my tar.gz the source [07:48] <philipacamaniac> dpkg is a beast [07:49] <Riddell> it all makes sense once you get the hang of it [07:49] <philipacamaniac> hope so [07:49] <\sh> info make ;) [07:49] <\sh> first step to the debian magic ;) === Shuddertrix [~Shuddertr@user-0cdv20s.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu [07:49] <Riddell> you need a debian directory in the sources, control and rules etc then run debuild to make the package [07:50] <philipacamaniac> ok [07:50] <Shuddertrix> I'm having problems with the livecd, is that what the topic is for? [07:51] <Firetech> Shuddertrix: not really... [07:51] <Mez> oooh :D [07:51] <Mez> kde 3.4.1 [07:51] <Mez> :D === Mez thinks tis shineh [07:51] <Firetech> the live cd in the topic is for kde 3.4.1 === Mez download [07:52] <Shuddertrix> oh [07:52] <Shuddertrix> well, i've burned the regular livecd 3 times now, and it keeps failing on loading ethdetect [07:52] <Mez> erm [07:52] <Mez> should i use the kubuntu miropr or the mirrored files from kde org that say they;re for kubuntu [07:53] <philipacamaniac> kubuntu.org will be faster [07:53] <Mez> really? [07:53] <Mez> I'm usaing mirror.ac.uk and I've got them all already [07:53] <Shuddertrix> kubuntu.org was able to max out my connection [07:54] <Mez> mirror.ac.uk always works well for me :D [07:54] <Shuddertrix> i've only seen a few servers do that [07:54] <Mez> but... *shrugs* [07:54] <Mez> er.... so it's safe to use the kde.org ones then [07:54] <Shuddertrix> yeah [07:54] <Mez> good :D [07:54] <Mez> just cheking [07:54] <Mez> grr [07:54] <philipacamaniac> Yes, the same maintainer built them both [07:54] <Mez> It's trying to update wine aswell [07:54] <Shuddertrix> hey, that directory has one with koffice. click. [07:54] <Mez> which is taking ages :D [07:55] <Shuddertrix> i'm almost ready to try burning it to a dvd-r or some other media to get the livecd working === aseigo_xnore is now known as aseigo === jey [~jey@cable200-58-222-233.epm.net.co] has joined #kubuntu [07:56] <philipacamaniac> Riddell: my brain is now about as useful as fried glue, so I'll continue this deb package adventure tomorrow. If you were looking at putting it into Breezy, it is GPL, so have at it. [07:57] <philipacamaniac> Shuddertrix: have you tried redownloading the iso? [07:57] <Shuddertrix> philipacamaniac: twice [07:57] <Shuddertrix> same md5sum as the MD5SUMS file, also, on both downloads [07:58] <philipacamaniac> have you tried another computer? [07:58] <insanekane> \sh: btw, pykde doesn't work ... sip complains about versions [07:58] <Shuddertrix> no [07:58] <Shuddertrix> let me check === jey is now known as FractuS === FractuS Hi everybody [07:59] <\sh> insanekane: ?? [07:59] <\sh> insanekane: can u send me the errors? === _Church_Of_Foamy [~Foamey@24-177-160-171.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [08:00] <insanekane> \sh: actually, even the errors are wierd: i get a string, in which I can see the placeholders like "hello %s" ... [08:00] <insanekane> \sh: it was a runtime exception [08:01] <Shuddertrix> does the kubuntu livecd load up k-meleon in Windows? === seek205 [~seek205@67-42-59-107.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:01] <Shuddertrix> My other box (running XP) is complaining that k-meleon.exe is trying to start [08:01] <\sh> hmm [08:02] <Shuddertrix> ,, i guess it does .. [08:02] <insanekane> \sh: anyway, thankfully, i had a set of precompiled sources, and i did an evil thing: i deployed directly from sources than using .deb :/ [08:02] <\sh> insanekane: should we try and use python-qt3 3.14.1? [08:02] <insanekane> \sh: yes ... the sources i use is python-qt3 3.14.1 [08:03] <philipacamaniac> okay I'm finally testing the 5.04.1 livecd [08:03] <insanekane> along with the pykde snapshot and spi4.2 [08:03] <insanekane> err .. [08:03] <insanekane> sip === FractuS [~jey@cable200-58-222-233.epm.net.co] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [08:03] <\sh> insanekane: well...python-qt3 in hoary has some pitfalls... [08:03] <\sh> yes [08:04] <Shuddertrix> i hope it gets the right refresh rate for the monitor [08:04] <insanekane> \sh: oh ? [08:04] <Mez> so when will kde 3.4.1 be updated in main ? [08:04] <insanekane> \sh: is there some problem in the packaging ? [08:04] <philipacamaniac> Mez: Breezy [08:04] <Shuddertrix> it's some weird sony monitor, runs at some weird refresh rate that I can't remember (60hz looks horrible on it, but it runs..) === runelind [~mattias@inte099185.halls.colostate.edu] has left #kubuntu [] [08:04] <\sh> insanekane: no..3.13.x is the problem [08:04] <Mez> lmao typical [08:05] <insanekane> \sh: actually, i will look into the packaging aspect ... will going through the packaging of pyqt etc, help me to make packages for my own libraries/applications ? [08:05] <Mez> arent the MOTU going to update it at least? [08:05] <philipacamaniac> No, much of KDE is in main, not universe. You can find semi-official updated packages (see topic). [08:06] <seek205> Do I just put the kde 341 source in my list and then do a apt-get upgrade? [08:06] <Mez> yeah philipacamaniac I'm already updating ;) [08:06] <Mez> seek [08:06] <Shuddertrix> seek205: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade kde <- that worked for me [08:06] <Mez> sudo apt-get update [08:06] <Mez> then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [08:07] <seek205> ah ok [08:07] <Mez> that worked for me [08:07] <seek205> heh [08:07] <Mez> well, is working [08:07] <\sh> insanekane: it will take a while, until i backported the python-qt3 package..it's already 3.14.1 in breety [08:07] <\sh> -t+z [08:07] <seek205> ok thanks alot === regeya [~shane@adsl-sp3-cdale176.micgi.com] has joined #kubuntu [08:08] <insanekane> \sh: ok, how are u doing the backport ? is there any source code changes involved ? or only in the debian/ directory of the package ? === Blissex [~Blissex@82-69-39-138.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #KUbuntu [08:08] <insanekane> \sh: because i want to try to bug fix the package [08:08] <Mez> hmm [08:08] <Mez> eird [08:09] <Mez> I got half way thought upgrading KDE and this happened [08:09] <Mez> oh wait [08:09] <Mez> it just errored out [08:09] <Mez> now I can only get this [08:09] <Mez> The following packages have unmet dependencies: [08:09] <Mez> kdebase: Depends: kdebase-bin (>= 4:3.4.1-0ubuntu0hoary1) but 4:3.4.0-0ubuntu18 is installed [08:10] <insanekane> \sh: i will download the .tar.gz, .dsc and diff.gz from breezy repository and try to backport [08:11] <Mez> Unpacking replacement kdebase-bin ... [08:11] <Mez> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-bin_4%3a3.4.1-0ubuntu0hoary1_i386.deb (--unpack): [08:11] <Mez> trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde3/kgreet_winbind.la', which is also in package kdm [08:11] <Mez> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) [08:11] <Mez> Errors were encountered while processing: [08:11] <Mez> /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-bin_4%3a3.4.1-0ubuntu0hoary1_i386.deb [08:11] <Mez> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) [08:11] <Shuddertrix> Same exact problem, philipacamaniac [08:11] <Shuddertrix> Stops at Retriving ethdetect === neko [~neko@samhain.plus.com] has joined #kubuntu [08:11] <insanekane> Mez: maybe bug in the kde packages ... like python-kde [08:11] <\sh> insanekane: yeah...u have to take a closer look to the qt versions used in the depends and build-depends [08:12] <Shuddertrix> says Failure to load from CDROM [08:12] <Mez> should i uninstall kdm? then try again ? [08:12] <philipacamaniac> Mez: I didn't have problems on two computers I tried, but I did sudo apt-get upgrade then dist-upgrade [08:12] <insanekane> \sh: ok i will try it and report later (when im less stoned) ;) === dvoid [~dvoid@c-215fe155.2010-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu === sirukin [~sirukin@64.247.151.242] has joined #kubuntu [08:13] <Shuddertrix> The other computer took an amazingly long time to load the modules, too [08:14] <philipacamaniac> Shuddertrix: is that the new LiveCD with 3.4.1? [08:14] <Shuddertrix> philipacamaniac: No, the standard one [08:14] <Mez> ah fekc I'm screwed? [08:14] <Shuddertrix> Right now i'm downloading 5.04.1+koffice one [08:14] <Shuddertrix> the [08:14] <Mez> any ideas what to do [08:15] <Shuddertrix> Mez: What about a sudo apt-get upgrade kde ? [08:15] <insanekane> Mez: dpkg -i --force-overwrite [08:15] <uniq> mez: remove kdm first, and try again. [08:16] <Mez> I cant remove kdm [08:16] <uniq> why? [08:16] <Mez> mez@apathy:~$ sudo apt-get remove kdm [08:16] <Mez> Reading package lists... Done [08:16] <Mez> Building dependency tree... Done [08:16] <Mez> You might want to run apt-get -f install to correct these: [08:16] <Mez> The following packages have unmet dependencies: [08:16] <Mez> kdebase: Depends: kdebase-bin (>= 4:3.4.1-0ubuntu0hoary1) but 4:3.4.0-0ubuntu18 is to be installed [08:16] <Mez> E: Unmet dependencies. Try apt-get -f install with no packages (or specify a solution). [08:16] <Shuddertrix> hey, it's done downloading already [08:16] <Mez> mez@apathy:~$ [08:16] <Mez> thats why [08:16] <philipacamaniac> amu: 5.04.1 Live CD is working (on vmware hardware). Are the 2 icons on the desktop usually there in the LiveCD? That's different from standard Kubuntu. [08:17] <philipacamaniac> Shuddertrix: Run an MD5 check on that one! === StR [~str@200.49.168.54] has joined #kubuntu === Mez crosses finers === KabelKasper [~vloechte@i5387D567.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu [08:19] <Mez> ok I think i got it working [08:19] <philipacamaniac> What was the problem? [08:20] <Shuddertrix> philipacamaniac: c6deb1dc78a351dc3869e9be2c094f7a vs. c6deb1dc78a351dc3869e9be2c094f7a , looks fine here [08:20] <Shuddertrix> (second one is what i downloaded) [08:20] <philipacamaniac> Shuddertrix: wow fast connection === KabelKasper [~vloechte@i5387D567.versanet.de] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] [08:21] <Shuddertrix> philipacamaniac: 520KBytes/sec Average from kubuntu.org [08:21] <Shuddertrix> that's my cap [08:21] <Shuddertrix> took just under 20 minutes, which to me, is acceptable [08:21] <SpookyET> Is anybody running suse 9.3 ? [08:22] <Shuddertrix> SpookyET: This is #kubuntu, not #suse (not sure if they have a channel or not?) [08:22] <SpookyET> wrong window [08:23] <Shuddertrix> philipacamaniac: You think I should use a blank DVD-R or a erased CD-RW (my only format options) [08:23] <SpookyET> http://backports.ubuntuforums.org hoary-backports-staging/main gnome-btdownload 0.0.20-1~5.04ubp1 [08:23] <SpookyET> 401 Authorization Required [08:23] <philipacamaniac> try a blank DVD-R [08:23] <Shuddertrix> SpookyET: You have to use backports mirrors now, see the forums [08:23] <Shuddertrix> philipacamaniac: Ok. [08:24] <Shuddertrix> I have 2 left, if this doesn't work I'm going to cry [08:24] <Shuddertrix> agh no, i have 1 left! [08:24] <philipacamaniac> ? [08:24] <Shuddertrix> Why do they put the black plastic discs at the bottoms and top of CD spindles? [08:24] <Shuddertrix> blank, i mean [08:25] <philipacamaniac> That's a real good question... Do you have vmware or qemu? [08:25] <Shuddertrix> I have vmware [08:25] <philipacamaniac> Try the iso in vmware [08:25] <Shuddertrix> Already starting to boot. === thoreauputic_ [~prospero@wolax9-048.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === thoreauputic_ is now known as thoreauputic [08:27] <Shuddertrix> Wow, it boots a lot faster then a disc (obvious) [08:27] <Shuddertrix> It got past it [08:27] <SpookyET> Shuddertrix: were you able to get any of the mirrors listed for kde341 to work? [08:27] <Shuddertrix> Detecting network hardware [08:27] <Shuddertrix> SpookyET: I used the one in the topic, works like a charm [08:28] <Shuddertrix> preparing session, yip! Although, philipacamaniac , what if it doesn't burn right? [08:28] <Shuddertrix> I should probably verify the data, i haven't been doing that.. [08:28] <philipacamaniac> I never do, but yeah, do that. [08:28] <philipacamaniac> May have a burner issue :( [08:29] <Shuddertrix> I hope not :( [08:29] <Shuddertrix> It burns and reads really well [08:29] <Shuddertrix> I just hope it's the CD-RW [08:29] <Mez> ok [08:29] <Shuddertrix> Boots into Kubuntu perfectly. [08:29] <Mez> i think i have it working [08:29] <Mez> Configuration file `/etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc' [08:29] <Mez> ==> Modified (by you or by a script) since installation. [08:29] <Mez> ==> Package distributor has shipped an updated version. [08:29] <Mez> What would you like to do about it ? Your options are: [08:29] <Mez> Y or I : install the package maintainer's version [08:29] <Mez> N or O : keep your currently-installed version [08:29] <Mez> D : show the differences between the versions [08:29] <Mez> Z : background this process to examine the situation [08:29] <Mez> The default action is to keep your current version. [08:29] <Mez> *** kdmrc (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ? [08:29] <philipacamaniac> Shuddertrix: awesome [08:29] <Mez> what do i do there === toran [~me@pppoe-64-91-111-84-rb.vcr.centurytel.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:29] <philipacamaniac> Mez: Y [08:30] <Mez> because I want to know what to do (sorry couldnt reisist hte joke) [08:30] <toran> does anyone have experience getting kmuddy [ http://kmuddy.net ] running on kubuntu? [08:30] <philipacamaniac> That is normal, I got it too [08:30] <Shuddertrix> koffice works too, if anyone was wondering about the 5.04.1+koffice iso [08:30] <philipacamaniac> Where is that iso, btw? === Mez will brb [08:30] <Mez> rebooting X [08:31] <Mez> cause it's still reporting as kde 3.4.0 [08:31] <SpookyET> how do you stop apt-get i'm getting a billion 404s. it's never stopping [08:31] <Shuddertrix> http://www.kubuntu.org/~amu/kubuntu-5.04.1+koffice-i386-live.iso [08:31] <Shuddertrix> or just browse the directory, too [08:31] <thoreauputic> SpookyET: try ctrl+c === mez [~mez@82-36-228-130.cable.ubr01.perr.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [08:32] <mez> yay [08:32] <mez> 3.4.1 === mez growls slightly [08:32] <Shuddertrix> konqueror and akregrator both work fine too [08:32] <philipacamaniac> tastes good, eh? [08:32] <mez> why does kMix load in a window everytime I log in [08:32] <Shuddertrix> so the network isn't screwed up as an effect or anything [08:32] <philipacamaniac> Shuddertrix: does that version not have openoffice? [08:32] <Shuddertrix> philipacamaniac: No openoffice, but I perfer koffice for some reason === dug [~dug@pcp07849925pcs.wilmsc01.tn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:33] <philipacamaniac> I want to prefer koffice... [08:33] <Shuddertrix> It's all KDE applications. :D [08:33] <SpookyET> what's the command to update kde to 3.4.1? [08:33] <Shuddertrix> SpookyET: I used sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade kde to get mine to upgrade [08:34] <mez> dont ask me [08:34] <mez> I cocked my upgrade up :d [08:34] <mez> fixed it now though === hrqhvs [hrqhvs@IRONCURTAIN.WESTBERLIN.ORG] has joined #kubuntu [08:34] <mez> had to get out my kubuntu CD though [08:34] <hrqhvs> hi, i have a rather simple question: how do i install kget? === douglas [~douglas@dpc6745164251.direcpc.com] has joined #kubuntu [08:35] <Shuddertrix> vmware has about 26mb of free/buffered memory, neat [08:35] <SpookyET> weird [08:35] <SpookyET> i tried to do [08:35] <Shuddertrix> have never seen kde take up about 128mb of memory before, it's always been about 200mb [08:35] <SpookyET> apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and i get [08:35] <SpookyET> The following packages have unmet dependencies: [08:35] <SpookyET> ubuntu-desktop: Depends: mozilla-firefox-gnome-support [08:35] <SpookyET> i got firefox installed [08:36] <philipacamaniac> Shuddertrix: I'm a Windows network administrator at a school, and I use OOo on lab computers, and MSO on staff computers. I can't feasibly use KOffice without at least having OOo installed. [08:36] <mez> hrqhvs, sudo apt-get install kget [08:36] <Shuddertrix> philipacamaniac: Yeah, i don't like OOo because it never works right on my other computer [08:36] <Shuddertrix> It's too slow for it, koffice is just right [08:37] <Shuddertrix> MSO is just right, also.. [08:37] <philipacamaniac> Boy, I was sure mentioning my Windows-related occupation would have been flamebait here :) [08:37] <Curalton> hah [08:37] <SpookyET> neah [08:37] <Shuddertrix> lol [08:37] <SpookyET> this is not #debian [08:37] <StR> philipacamaniac: koffice works without OOo.. yes? can I replace OOo with koffice.. no... [08:37] <SpookyET> #debian is where the animals on irc are [08:38] <StR> SpookyET: LOL [08:38] <philipacamaniac> StR: yes, but you can't very well open and save Microsoft format files [08:38] <hrqhvs> mez, says the package not found [08:38] <SpookyET> koffice isn't good enough [08:38] <Shuddertrix> Microsoft format files scare me. [08:38] <SpookyET> Shuddertrix: doc is the standard [08:39] <mez> hrqhvs, hmm one sec [08:39] <StR> philipacamaniac: open MSoffice with koffice? no... [08:39] <StR> BRB [08:40] <Shuddertrix> Standards scare me. [08:40] <mez> hrqhvs, read http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#repositories and do that [08:40] <SpookyET> i remember in suse, in KControl, I had a monitor with arrows to move the image left, up, down, right. I don't see that in kubuntu. It's weird, on windows the image is centred. in kubuntu, it is half of a cm to the right. same res, refresh rate [08:40] <mez> te extra repositories, [08:40] <philipacamaniac> I REALLY hope OpenDocument takes off, because I'm tired of everyone (myself included) being so dependant on ms formats [08:40] <mez> then run the command i told you above [08:40] <philipacamaniac> Shuddertrix: LOL [08:41] <hrqhvs> mez, thanks [08:41] <mez> np [08:41] <SpookyET> i'm tired of having to mess with the monitor controls each time i boot each os === StR [~StR@200.49.168.54] has joined #kubuntu [08:42] <StR> so.. what whas it? [08:42] <philipacamaniac> KOffice is not dependant on OOo [08:42] <Firetech> hummzie... the system stuck... [08:42] <SpookyET> KOffice users are dependent on OO [08:43] <StR> philipacamaniac: koffice is not dependant on OOo.. right [08:43] <StR> SpookyET: koffice users are dependent on OOo? wrong [08:43] <philipacamaniac> SpookyET: I'll give you that === Globus [~globus@82.212.181.106] has joined #kubuntu [08:43] <Firetech> my syslog said something about my CD, which I wasn't using... [08:43] <StR> philipacamaniac: can you see all MSoffice files with koffice? wrong [08:43] <Shuddertrix> I don't read ms type files.. [08:44] <StR> Firetech: maybe "insert CD"? [08:44] <Shuddertrix> If it's sent from someone in the workplace, I tell them to stop using crossover office+ms office to send me files.. >< === nmorse [~nmorse@adsl-64-217-110-209.dsl.tulsok.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:44] <Firetech> StR: no [08:44] <SpookyET> gnumerics is a good alternative to excell [08:45] <Firetech> could not send command or something like that... [08:45] <Firetech> and I had 8 days of uptime :( === michelp [~michel@166.170.25.70] has joined #kubuntu [08:45] <philipacamaniac> Shuddertrix: your workplace uses Linux? [08:46] <StR> Firetech: you? or your pc? [08:46] <Firetech> my pc [08:46] <Shuddertrix> philipacamaniac: Yup. We've made the switch this school year (it's a school, i call it a workplace) to 90% linux, 10% mac (for compatibility reasons [08:46] <hrqhvs> mez, that worked - thanks [08:46] <Shuddertrix> I did all the installing. [08:46] <mez> no problem [08:46] <philipacamaniac> Shuddertrix: where, if I may ask? I'm wanting to do the same thing at my workplace (also a school) [08:46] <mez> I know it worked :D without you telling me :d [08:46] <mez> hehe [08:46] <SpookyET> i've seen macs at my uni [08:46] <SpookyET> probably 99% winblows [08:47] <SpookyET> 1% mac [08:47] <Shuddertrix> We're in a small town.. [08:47] <Shuddertrix> in Ohio. === newz2000 [~chatzilla@12-226-91-204.client.mchsi.com] has joined #kubuntu [08:47] <SpookyET> that explains it [08:47] <nmorse> The uni I'm going to in the fall keeps Sun boxes [08:47] <Firetech> StR: "Jun 1 20:28:02 localhost kernel: hdc: ATAPI reset timed-out, status=0x80" [08:47] <philipacamaniac> Oh man, they have a way better Dept of Ed than Arizona [08:47] <Firetech> the next line after that one is reboot [08:47] <Shuddertrix> We have a big technology budget that we are spending on new server hardware, so we switched to linux instead of windows server 2003 (servers) and XP (workstations) [08:47] <SpookyET> atlanta is like 45 out of 50 [08:48] <philipacamaniac> Shuddertrix: So your admin staff is using Linux? [08:48] <Shuddertrix> Saved us money, and it's eaiser for me to manage [08:48] <SpookyET> Shuddertrix, how much have you saved? [08:48] <philipacamaniac> no kidding, on the manage part [08:48] <Shuddertrix> SpookyET: We can afford 4 new Opteron servers instead of 3. Which will help the aging dual pIII's a lot [08:49] <Shuddertrix> philipacamaniac: Get this, i only handled 2 more calls per day this past year also === hussam [~Hussam@194.126.31.19] has joined #kubuntu [08:49] <SpookyET> i'm in package hell [08:49] <Shuddertrix> That's only 7 calls in one day. It's awesome. [08:49] <SpookyET> kde upgrade refuses to install. ubuntu refuses to install [08:49] <Shuddertrix> I was expecting like 20 calls/day [08:49] <philipacamaniac> You've inspired me with a newfound ambition to go through with a migration [08:50] <Shuddertrix> philipacamaniac: The thing is, all the teachers got 1 month of training with Linux [08:50] <philipacamaniac> I can do that with my eyes closed [08:50] <Shuddertrix> And the students learn linux in the school-wide linux class now, once a week for 2 periods of the day, taught by me [08:51] <Shuddertrix> I get to do that again in 4 years. Heh. [08:51] <SpookyET> high school? [08:51] <Shuddertrix> SpookyET: K-12 [08:51] <SpookyET> k-12 is also high school [08:51] <philipacamaniac> Stop Stop! You're making me jealous. I'm still stuck in Windows muck. [08:51] <Shuddertrix> SpookyET: Exactly. [08:52] <Shuddertrix> It's all 13 grades in one school [08:52] <philipacamaniac> Charter? [08:52] <Shuddertrix> Small classes [08:52] <Shuddertrix> Public [08:52] <Shuddertrix> It's a small town. [08:52] <philipacamaniac> Public Charter? [08:52] <philipacamaniac> OH [08:52] <Shuddertrix> Very, very small [08:52] <Shuddertrix> One school. [08:52] <SpookyET> pop? [08:52] <Shuddertrix> Lots of country kids, you get the district [08:53] <StR> Small Classes - public: class Small { public static void Main(){} } [08:53] <Choubaka> -_- [08:54] <philipacamaniac> We've got 4 aging PIII servers, some useless IP/TV equipment, and lots of brand new Dells (with XP installed). [08:54] <Shuddertrix> ouch [08:54] <nmorse> The only *nix box in the local high school here is an aging FreeBSD mail server [08:54] <SpookyET> i have to crawl 32 km at 8 km/h to get to school with a trillion other cars [08:54] <philipacamaniac> However, I have all students using OOo and Firefox [08:54] <Shuddertrix> we have 5 aging PIII servers and one VERY FAST opteron server. [08:54] <StR> philipacamaniac: OOo? or OOo2? [08:55] <Shuddertrix> buying 2 servers this year. [08:55] <philipacamaniac> OOo1.1.4 [08:55] <nmorse> By aging I mean Pentium (without a number) [08:55] <philipacamaniac> 2 is still in beta [08:55] <Shuddertrix> then next year, i'm hiring a group to move the site over to PHP code and upgrade the opteron servers [08:55] <Shuddertrix> life is good. [08:55] <StR> Shuddertrix: in what is it coded now? [08:56] <SpookyET> no mono and asp.net for you? [08:56] <Shuddertrix> StR: Some ASP stuff that I can't handle using anymore. Clunky, slow, maybe the Opteron will help a bit with the slow issue however [08:56] <philipacamaniac> I already recoded most of our site, in preparation. [08:56] <Shuddertrix> It's a jumbled mess thrown together from the last adminstrator [08:56] <SpookyET> i assume that by asp you mean asp 3.0 [08:56] <Shuddertrix> yeah [08:57] <Shuddertrix> maybe mono/asp.net, we'll have to see === Shuddertrix is amazed at how fast vmware is and has just shut it down [08:57] <SpookyET> you might like Boo [08:57] <SpookyET> i wish vmware was like xen [08:58] <philipacamaniac> PHP all the way [08:58] <SpookyET> upgraded kde [08:58] <SpookyET> got to restart [08:58] <Shuddertrix> Oh, and this year we might be taking one of the computer labs and setting it up as a f@h room when no one is using them [08:59] <nmorse> you are lucky, shuddertrix [08:59] <philipacamaniac> I made one of ours a s@h room, but it kept tripping circuit breakers [08:59] <nmorse> SETI makes a great server burn test though [08:59] <Shuddertrix> There is a giant electric overhaul at the school right now, i can't do anything for awhile === Goshawk [~vincenzo@host145-121.pool8259.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu [09:00] <Goshawk> hi to all [09:00] <Shuddertrix> Whatever the RMA is, k3b is updating it.. [09:01] <Goshawk> i'm trying to save a stream with kaffeine but when i press R (save stream) kaffeine crashes. Does it do the same on your system? [09:01] <Shuddertrix> It took 1 minute to burn, i'm serious [09:01] <Shuddertrix> DVD4.31x speed [09:01] <nmorse> Upgrade kaffeine, Goshawk [09:01] <Shuddertrix> That scared me [09:01] <Firetech> you guys are making me jealous too... The sysadmin on my school (equivalent to upper secondary) thinks that Linux is bad language (swearing, that is..) [09:01] <Shuddertrix> it ejected the disc and reloaded it.. 3 times [09:01] <Goshawk> nmorse: i come from ubuntu, should i add another line to my etc/apt/sources.list === SpookyET [~Secret@24-196-233-44.cpe.ga.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [09:01] <Goshawk> ? [09:02] <nmorse> add this line to your repos list in Synaptic (or your /etc/apt/sources.list): deb http://kubuntu.org/ hoary-updates main === primero [~primero@150.Red-80-26-24.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:02] <nmorse> the do 'apt-get update; apt-get upgrade (or dist-upgrade if you prefer) === _Church_Of_Foamy [~Foamey@24-177-160-171.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [09:02] <SpookyET> back [09:02] <Goshawk> nmorse: ok thanks [09:03] <Firetech> Shuddertrix: what is f@h? [09:03] <Shuddertrix> Firetech: folding@home [09:03] <_Church_Of_Foamy> how many of you guys dual boot with xp? [09:03] <SpookyET> i need help with apt-get install ubuntu-desktop [09:03] <Goshawk> _Church_Of_Foamy: me [09:03] <_Church_Of_Foamy> is it stable? [09:03] <Firetech> ah, came to think about that half a second before you answered... [09:03] <philipacamaniac> Shuddertrix: did you document the migration? [09:03] <nmorse> I dual-booted with XP until SP2 killed it [09:03] <Goshawk> _Church_Of_Foamy: sure [09:03] <philipacamaniac> _Church: yes [09:03] <Shuddertrix> philipacamaniac: No, sadly === emil [~emil@195.69.82.35] has joined #kubuntu [09:03] <_Church_Of_Foamy> i hate having to use xp because i have found linux to be so much beter === emil is now known as opi [09:03] <SpookyET> ubuntu-desktop: [09:03] <SpookyET> Depends: mozilla-firefox-gnome-support [09:03] <nmorse> XP is the devil [09:03] <_Church_Of_Foamy> but it can't run my game :( [09:04] <nmorse> What game? [09:04] <_Church_Of_Foamy> ragnarok [09:04] <nmorse> Hmmm. [09:04] <_Church_Of_Foamy> it starts to load the map then it crashes [09:04] <_Church_Of_Foamy> and i can't seem to fix it no matter what i do [09:04] <nmorse> You running it in dx9wine? [09:04] <_Church_Of_Foamy> it's the only reason i could possibly need xp [09:04] <_Church_Of_Foamy> yes [09:05] <Shuddertrix> Just pretty much.. switched [09:05] <nmorse> The one from linux-gamers.net? [09:05] <_Church_Of_Foamy> same here [09:05] <Firetech> _Church_Of_Foamy: cedega? [09:05] <_Church_Of_Foamy> it will run it but not connect to the internet [09:05] <Shuddertrix> I kept a voice log of the training for the teachers, however [09:05] <philipacamaniac> Shuddertrix: That's insane. I've been prepping for a long time: http://southgateaz.org/linux/software.htm [09:06] <_Church_Of_Foamy> i just hate xp i switched about a month ago and have been very happy with kubuntu [09:06] <Shuddertrix> Oh, you mean something like that? [09:06] <_Church_Of_Foamy> i'd hate to have to go back with my head hanging [09:06] <Shuddertrix> I had something like that, and I found everything we needed within a week. [09:06] <philipacamaniac> Well, and a log of problems you encountered [09:06] <_Church_Of_Foamy> and no one seems to be able to tell me how to get it to work === Goshawk upgrades kaffeine [09:07] <nmorse> Church_of_Foamy: what version of wine are you running? [09:07] <_Church_Of_Foamy> as far as i know the current version === Goshawk says to the kubuntu team that they did a very good work [09:07] <_Church_Of_Foamy> same with dx9wine [09:07] <_Church_Of_Foamy> they did awsome ^_^ [09:07] <Shuddertrix> We don't run handhelds, and if we need a program to run, we have Crossover office to help us. [09:08] <Shuddertrix> I encountered only 2 problems [09:08] <nmorse> Ok, so the problem is that you can't connect to the internet with it? [09:08] <_Church_Of_Foamy> i tryed crossover and it won't run the game either === seek205 [~seek205@67-42-59-107.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:08] <Shuddertrix> _Church_Of_Foamy: crossover isn't for games, cedega or dx9wine is [09:09] <_Church_Of_Foamy> i figured that out lol [09:09] <philipacamaniac> Shuddertrix: ok, so you paid for a crossover license... what distro? Kubuntu? [09:09] <Shuddertrix> 1 was that the terminal commands would need to be learned (I never thought of that) and the second was that a few art programs didn't work [09:09] <_Church_Of_Foamy> i just don't know what i'm doin wrong [09:10] <nmorse> Right, you said the game plays just fine until you try to go online? [09:10] <_Church_Of_Foamy> and i'd like to make this the only os to use on my box [09:10] <Goshawk> i'm playing a stream.. there is a way to register it? [09:10] <nmorse> And then loading the map fails? [09:10] <_Church_Of_Foamy> yup [09:10] <_Church_Of_Foamy> it let's me log in pick my char and when it goes to load the map it get's to 100% [09:10] <_Church_Of_Foamy> and fails [09:10] <Shuddertrix> philipacamaniac: The labs all run kubuntu (a couple run Gentoo with a similar kubuntu config), and the teachers chose either Ubuntu, Kubuntu, or Slackware (we have a couple cool slackware gurus working here, imagine that) for their own machines [09:11] <_Church_Of_Foamy> i know it can run just don't know what 've done wrong :( [09:11] <philipacamaniac> Shuddertrix: Ok no more, that's just too much! I can't take it! :) [09:12] <Shuddertrix> :( [09:12] <Shuddertrix> You can make the switch over, i know you can ;) [09:12] <_Church_Of_Foamy> i just don't want to go back to xp (not that i payed for it anyways) [09:13] <Shuddertrix> I'm getting sad thinking of the opteron servers being offline right now :( [09:13] <Shuddertrix> err, server. === _douglas [~douglas@dpc6745164251.direcpc.com] has joined #kubuntu [09:13] <_Church_Of_Foamy> so anyone have an idea what might be going on? [09:13] <Shuddertrix> I demand my distcc! :D [09:14] <Shuddertrix> I'm going to see if this dvd works [09:15] <_Church_Of_Foamy> :( [09:15] <Shuddertrix> It's for a friend to try kubuntu out, but I think i'll play with it for awhile first [09:15] <Shuddertrix> seeing as how it took up minimal resources in vmware :D [09:15] <_Church_Of_Foamy> it's getting to the point where i will pay someone to make the game work [09:15] <Shuddertrix> :D [09:16] <Shuddertrix> that's it, break down.. [09:16] <Shuddertrix> do it.. [09:16] <Shuddertrix> >:D [09:16] <nmorse> Church_Of_Foamy: have you tried Wine's bugzilla? [09:16] <nmorse> or Fred's(?) Corner? [09:16] <_Church_Of_Foamy> yes they said it was unimportant [09:16] <Goshawk> can i save a stream (not the stream file but the stream itself with kaffeine? [09:16] <nmorse> Darn it, they won't work on my Rome: Total War either [09:16] <_Church_Of_Foamy> i have 157 people that will switch to linux if it can run ragnarok [09:17] <nmorse> 157? [09:17] <_Church_Of_Foamy> yup [09:17] <nmorse> You pulled that number out of your bum [09:17] <_Church_Of_Foamy> no there freinds and family [09:17] <nmorse> You have 157 friends and family members who play Ragnarok Online? [09:18] <_Church_Of_Foamy> well about 50 family members [09:18] <Shuddertrix> lol [09:18] <_Church_Of_Foamy> my fiancee got her family addicted to it [09:18] <_Church_Of_Foamy> and most of our freinds play it already === hussam [~hussam@194.126.31.19] has joined #kubuntu [09:18] <_Church_Of_Foamy> but they all use windows [09:18] <Shuddertrix> that's sad.. === zemantic [~michel@166.170.6.143] has joined #kubuntu [09:18] <_Church_Of_Foamy> yea it is [09:19] <_Church_Of_Foamy> they like the way kubuntu is though [09:19] <Shuddertrix> no, the fact that most of your friends and family play the game.. [09:19] <_Church_Of_Foamy> i let them try it on my box and they want it..... [09:19] <nmorse> Wow, I think a freenode server just took a dive [09:19] <_Church_Of_Foamy> well if you've ever played it you'd see it was a great game lol === Slackman [~am@81-178-212-101.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #kubuntu [09:20] <_Church_Of_Foamy> yup === SpookyET [~Secret@24-196-233-44.cpe.ga.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [09:20] <Goshawk> _Church_Of_Foamy: better mmrpg exists [09:20] <_Church_Of_Foamy> i know [09:20] <_Church_Of_Foamy> i have some of them [09:20] <Goshawk> _Church_Of_Foamy: look at rose or lineage [09:20] <_Church_Of_Foamy> but they seem to like ro [09:20] <_Church_Of_Foamy> and i'd really like to get them off xp [09:21] <_Church_Of_Foamy> rose online is awsome [09:21] <Slackman> hi how do i change my ubuntu to a kubuntu...i've got kde installed already..but when i try and update it i get [09:21] <nmorse> How about Guild Wars? [09:21] <Slackman> The following packages have unmet dependencies: [09:21] <Slackman> kdelibs: Depends: kdelibs-data (>= 4:3.4.0-0ubuntu3.2) but 4:3.4.0-0ubuntu3.1 is installed [09:21] <hussam> guys I need help. I have a problem simmilar to this guy here. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38677 [09:21] <_Church_Of_Foamy> haven't tryed it yet but herd it was good [09:21] <hussam> I get no sound from tvtime [09:21] <nmorse> My friend just bought it to install it on my other PC [09:21] <_Church_Of_Foamy> nice how is it? [09:22] <nmorse> Haven't tried it yet [09:22] <nmorse> He had to leave too soon [09:22] <_Church_Of_Foamy> damn [09:22] <nmorse> I'm going to take one of his characters though and play with it === ToutPT|ppc|fr [~toutpt@ANantes-151-1-69-210.w81-250.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [09:22] <_Church_Of_Foamy> i know linux can play this game it's handeld everything i've thrown at it so far [09:23] <nmorse> have you tried going to #wine? [09:23] <nmorse> Is that even an IRC channel? [09:23] <_Church_Of_Foamy> yes there about as much help as a soup sandwich on a rainy day [09:23] <Shuddertrix> wasn't i doing something? [09:23] <Shuddertrix> oh.. wait [09:23] <Shuddertrix> hehe [09:24] <_Church_Of_Foamy> i want to just keep this has a linuxbox i really don't want to do a dual boot [09:24] <_Church_Of_Foamy> thats just the same as loosing to winsucks [09:25] <_Church_Of_Foamy> and maybe a slap to linux? [09:25] <nmorse> There has to be some way to make it run === newz2000 [~chatzilla@12-226-91-204.client.mchsi.com] has joined #kubuntu === michelp [~michel@166.170.25.70] has joined #kubuntu === error403 [~error403@host86-132-82-160.range86-132.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu === __Ace__ [~love@h55l211.delphi.afb.lu.se] has joined #kubuntu === raphinou [~rb@bidibule.office.be.easynet.net] has joined #kubuntu === Balu [~balu@foghorn.bartels-schoene.de] has joined #kubuntu === dell500 [~dell500@southcity-24.107.176.142.charter-stl.com] has joined #kubuntu === markw^ [~markw@ip68-6-237-45.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === timo_ [timo@tsukasa.networksolutions.se] has joined #kubuntu === esher [esher@online.with.eth0.ws] has joined #kubuntu [09:25] <nmorse> Hmm, most of them made it back at once too [09:25] <_Church_Of_Foamy> i know but i am not knowledgeable enough in linux to do it [09:25] <nmorse> Odd [09:26] <Slackman> Church Of Foadmy: losing to winsucks?.....is this some kind of new game? [09:27] <_Church_Of_Foamy> no just they way i feel [09:27] <_Church_Of_Foamy> i just started using kubuntu a moth ago for the first time [09:27] <_Church_Of_Foamy> and i think it's better than microcrap will ever nbe [09:28] <_Church_Of_Foamy> i just don't know enough to make this game work lol [09:28] <Slackman> which game is it? [09:28] <Slackman> is it a linux game?> [09:28] <_Church_Of_Foamy> no it's called aeRO RagnaroK [09:28] <_Church_Of_Foamy> a private ragnarok server built off of the offical client === hrqhvs [hrqhvs@IRONCURTAIN.WESTBERLIN.ORG] has left #kubuntu [] [09:29] <nmorse> Oh, so you're trying to run a private server or are you using the client? [09:29] <Slackman> right...so is it a windows game then? [09:29] <_Church_Of_Foamy> yes [09:30] <_Church_Of_Foamy> client [09:30] <Slackman> through Cedega? === Shuddertrix [~ubuntu@user-0cdv20s.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu [09:30] <Shuddertrix> Well, it boots.. [09:30] <_Church_Of_Foamy> cedega can run it but not connect to the net === philipacamaniac [~phliipaca@208-47-135-198.dia.cust.qwest.net] has left #kubuntu [] [09:30] <_Church_Of_Foamy> and wine can run it kinda [09:30] <Shuddertrix> There are 2 problems, however [09:31] <newz2000> sorry, something funky just happened and if anyonre responded I missed it... Anyone here build a custom ubuntu-cd that could give a hand? [09:31] <Shuddertrix> It didn't work with my sound card.. when it was loading (past "Starting ubuntu") the pc speaker beeped about 5 times, and amixer was scrolling by it's help screen [09:31] <Slackman> kinda? and does cedega work properly aside from the network? [09:31] <Shuddertrix> and the resolutions are screwed up [09:31] <_Church_Of_Foamy> as far as i can tell [09:32] <_Church_Of_Foamy> it works fine with steam === jdiagong [~jdiagong@164.Red-80-37-190.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:32] <_Church_Of_Foamy> connects to the net and everything [09:32] <_Church_Of_Foamy> it just seems to be this particular game [09:32] <Shuddertrix> Anyone know what I should do? [09:33] <Slackman> is that game supported by cedega..i.e how well do they say it will run? [09:33] <_Church_Of_Foamy> well there was a document in there forums where someone got it to run with something called point2play [09:34] <_Church_Of_Foamy> but from what i can figure you have to pay with credit card [09:34] <_Church_Of_Foamy> to get it [09:34] <Shuddertrix> _Church_Of_Foamy: point2play is transgaming's special application for downloading, installing, and running Cedega.. yeah, you have to pay for it === hussam [~hussam@194.126.31.19] has joined #kubuntu [09:34] <Slackman> Church ah, point2play is just cedega front end..its only like 15 dollars or something [09:34] <_Church_Of_Foamy> but i have also herd of people getting it to run without [09:35] <Slackman> it makes cedega really easy to update [09:35] <_Church_Of_Foamy> yea i kinda figured that [09:35] <Shuddertrix> Slackman: And really easy to use [09:35] <Slackman> yeh that too :) [09:35] <Shuddertrix> It does all the commands for you, makes game icons, etc. [09:35] <_Church_Of_Foamy> nice [09:35] <Slackman> i'd just find someone with a CC and give em 15 dollars..its not that expensive and its worth it [09:35] <hussam> can somebody help me figure out why I can't get sound from tvtime? [09:35] <Slackman> if you wanna play windows game [09:35] <_Church_Of_Foamy> could that have something to do with why it won't connect? [09:36] <Shuddertrix> How do I fix my resolutions on the livecd? [09:36] <Slackman> Shuddertrix, ctrl alt +/- ? [09:36] <Shuddertrix> Slackman: I'd do that, but I think it got my monitor's config wrong.. let me check [09:37] <Slackman> then you'll need to run xcfg i think [09:37] <Shuddertrix> Yeah, it did [09:37] <Shuddertrix> What route would I take to restart X, then? [09:37] <Shuddertrix> I usually use ctrl+alt+backspace, but I'm not sure if that would work right on the livecd? [09:37] <Slackman> should do [09:38] <_Church_Of_Foamy> so do you think that i need the point2play for the game? === Retroman [~Archimede@adsl-156-228-199.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:38] <_Church_Of_Foamy> to connect to the internet? [09:38] <Shuddertrix> Argh, konqu doesn't mount my drive right. Have to go to the console.. sheesh [09:38] <Slackman> i think it would be easier for you to try that than wrestle with cedega...i don't think you NEED it but its easiest [09:39] <_Church_Of_Foamy> hmmm [09:39] <Retroman> does anyone know if the 3.4.1 binary included mdnsd support in kdelibs? [09:39] <_Church_Of_Foamy> is there a way to find out why it isen't connecting in cedega? [09:39] <_Church_Of_Foamy> like an error log or something? [09:39] <Shuddertrix> Heh, only a few lines of difference. That's good. === thoreauputic is now known as thor|afk === bsd_usr [~slack_usr@c-67-164-170-193.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #Kubuntu [09:40] <Shuddertrix> Changed the monitor horiz/verti settings to my regular xorg.conf's lines. That shold work. [09:40] <Slackman> Church..well you can run it from the CLI and see what errors you get [09:40] <Shuddertrix> s/shold/should [09:41] <Shuddertrix> Change my mouse settings.. that should do it, be right back === mez is now known as Mez === gdh [~gdh@80-192-144-33.cable.ubr04.pres.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === Shuddertrix [~ubuntu@user-0cdv20s.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu [09:43] <Shuddertrix> Ah, bliss. [09:43] <Shuddertrix> 1152x864 at 75hz. That worked wonderfully [09:43] <_Church_Of_Foamy> cool [09:43] <Slackman> church, you might like to try #cedega [09:43] <Shuddertrix> Now, about my sound problem [09:43] <Shuddertrix> It says it can't find /dev/dsp [09:44] <_Church_Of_Foamy> brb the game crashed and mucked up my display [09:44] <Slackman> Shuddertrix, is it there? [09:44] <Shuddertrix> Sadly, no [09:44] <Shuddertrix> There was some amixer problem when I was booting off the livecd [09:45] <Shuddertrix> Couldn't find /dev/dsp either, I think is what it said === _Church_Of_Foamy [~Foamey@24-177-160-171.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [09:45] <Shuddertrix> I kinda want sound to work.. [09:46] <Slackman> Shuddertrix, is your sound card supported...? [09:46] <Shuddertrix> Slackman: It works in regular Kubuntu [09:46] <Shuddertrix> So you'd think that it would work, you know? [09:46] <Slackman> erm..why are you using a live cd when you have Kubuntu installed? [09:46] <Shuddertrix> I'm testing the livecd for a friend [09:47] <_Church_Of_Foamy> so any ideas about my predicament? [09:47] <Shuddertrix> He has a similar box to mine (same hard drive,*sound card*, video card) [09:47] <Shuddertrix> Not exact same hard drive, of course [09:47] <Slackman> Shuddertrix, ah...erm...dunno then...there isn't much you can do on a live cd though...like if it doesn't detect it doesn't detect...you can try alsaconf === omni_lonnie [~lonnie@leepcK-056.sub-k.lee.net] has joined #kubuntu === mrmanic is away (going offline) === mrmanic is now known as mrmanic|afk [09:48] <Shuddertrix> There is no alsaconf :( [09:48] <Slackman> or try and load the module manually [09:48] <Shuddertrix> That might work === mrmanic|afk is now known as mrmanic [09:49] <Shuddertrix> /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/sound/pci/snd-ens1371.ko [09:50] <Slackman> modprobe snd-ens1371 [09:50] <_Church_Of_Foamy> so you think i can motivate people by offering a $100 reward for makeing the game work for the public linux users? [09:50] <Slackman> Church i doubt it :P [09:50] <_Church_Of_Foamy> oh well it was worth a try lol [09:51] <Shuddertrix> It loaded, but it didn't help anything? [09:51] <Slackman> i mean...the 15 dollars is going towards development of wine.. [09:51] <_Church_Of_Foamy> do you guys know that microcrap charges for there updates now [09:51] <_Church_Of_Foamy> i could convert so many to linux if this game workd lol [09:52] <_Church_Of_Foamy> <---wishes he was a linux guru [09:53] <Shuddertrix> The module loaded, but there's no /dev/dsp and I'm not the greatest with sound in linux [09:53] <Slackman> Shuddertrix, k, sounds like a udev thing\ [09:54] <_Church_Of_Foamy> does anyone know anything about a os called reactos? [09:55] <_Church_Of_Foamy> someone gave me a cd with this os on it [09:55] <neko> I have a clean install of kubuntu on my other computer, but the network card is showing as disabled in Control Center, and Control Center won't let me change any settings. Anyone have any ideas on what to check for next? [09:55] <Shuddertrix> Hmm [09:55] <Shuddertrix> 2-line paste: === zemantic is now known as michelp === Tm_T_ [tm_travolt@xob.kapsi.fi] has joined #kubuntu [09:55] <Shuddertrix> Jun 1 19:27:26 localhost kernel: unable to grab IRQ 17 [09:55] <Shuddertrix> Jun 1 19:27:26 localhost kernel: ENS1371: probe of 0000:00:09.0 failed with error -16 [09:56] <_Church_Of_Foamy> is it possible to put xp on after installing kubuntu? [09:56] <Shuddertrix> That was before I modprobe'd, however [09:56] <Slackman> Shuddertrix, ah i think it needs to do that IRQ thingo for 2.6.10+ systems [09:57] <Shuddertrix> Silly thing also put up the wrong timezone too ;) [09:57] <Shuddertrix> Slackman: eh? [09:57] <Slackman> Shuddertrix, erm...check out the changlogs for 2.6.10 [09:58] <Slackman> there is something about irq checks === Funzo [~X@CPE0011953795c0-CM001225009118.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu [09:59] <Slackman> you have to pass something to lilo/grub [10:00] <Shuddertrix> Eh, i can't find anything.. [10:00] <Slackman> ok, when you boot the computer, it will tell you after it loads the kernel..you have to be very quick though [10:01] <Shuddertrix> Would it happen to be in dmesg? === thor|afk is now known as thoreauputic === seek205 [~seek205@67-42-59-107.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:04] <Shuddertrix> Still can't find anything. [10:06] <Shuddertrix> Hmm.. [10:06] <Shuddertrix> Just ran hotplug and it's slowing everything down! === _buz [~buz@80-218-107-8.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #kubuntu === msb_ [msb@bot.kapsi.fi] has joined #kubuntu [10:07] <Shuddertrix> udevd seems to be doing something.. [10:08] <Shuddertrix> I think i screwed something up :P [10:10] <Shuddertrix> Eh.. [10:10] <Shuddertrix> this is getting weird [10:10] <Shuddertrix> Can't figure out what's using up the cpu [10:10] <Shuddertrix> top isn't doing sqaut === Tm_T [tm_travolt@xob.kapsi.fi] has joined #kubuntu === seek205 [~seek205@67-42-59-107.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu === ztonzy is updating to kde 3.4.1 [10:12] <seek205> ugh how do you install custom mouse cursors in kbuntu? [10:13] <Shuddertrix> ps isn't helping either, and there are udev and default.hotplug processes running all over the place [10:14] <Shuddertrix> Not sure if I should kill em' === ztonzy [~ztonzy@ztonzy.artist.blender] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu [~ubuntu@user-0cdv20s.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu [10:21] <ubuntu> I fixed it. === ubuntu is now known as Shuddertrix [10:22] <Shuddertrix> I guess no one is interested in how I fixed it, either ;) === darkaudit [~bpack@pool-141-153-72-124.clrk.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === opi [~emil@195.69.82.35] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [10:24] <Shuddertrix> I just wish it would detect my monitor properly. === Choubaka [choubaka@ihme.org] has joined #kubuntu === Shuddertrix [~ubuntu@user-0cdv20s.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu === m-fox [~m-fox@port-212-202-9-80.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu === schlomo [~gouchi@AMontsouris-152-1-52-75.w83-202.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [10:37] <schlomo> Hi [10:37] <schlomo> does kdialog is present directly in Kubuntu ? [10:38] <schlomo> any idea ? [10:39] <aseigo> yes [10:40] <aseigo> it's part of kdebase and therefore in kubuntu === michelp [~michel@166.170.6.143] has joined #kubuntu [10:41] <schlomo> ok thanks === Retroman [~Archimede@adsl-156-228-199.mia.bellsouth.net] has left #kubuntu ["peace"] === reagleBRKLN [~reagleBRK@cpe-69-203-149-103.si.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [10:44] <reagleBRKLN> has anyone successfully used a web page to help them install freenx? some use different debs for different directions, with different directions, some create a /home/.nx user, some don't, etc. never got it to work with a knoppix or kubuntu install === gnumdk [~gnumdk@ANantes-252-1-5-18.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu === hussam [~hussam@194.126.31.19] has joined #kubuntu === itmelo [~itmelo@dhcp2.vmth.ucdavis.edu] has joined #kubuntu === itmelo [~itmelo@dhcp2.vmth.ucdavis.edu] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === _robert [~robert@sniper.wh25.tu-dresden.de] has joined #kubuntu [11:14] <Tm_T> hullo [11:17] <hussam> Tm_T: did you upgrade to kde 3.4.1? I feel like I'm the only person who upgrade. I'm starting to regret that I did so [11:19] <StR> hussam: why? [11:21] <hussam> I am keeping 3.4.1 but if nobody upgraded then I probably shouldn't have done so. Although kde3.4.1 did resolve all the crashes I was having with kmail. [11:21] <StR> I want to use 3.4.1 [11:22] <StR> I was using breezy (bad idea) and today i'm going to return to hoary and use 3.4.1 [11:23] <hussam> StR: same here. I tried breezy but found it too buggy, It would not mount anything. So I formatted, reinstalled hoary and installed kde 3.4.1 [11:23] <StR> hussam: the same.... [11:24] <hussam> It does feel better than kde 3.4.0 especially kmail and kopete. === aseigo [~aseigo@S010600023f8bac18.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:25] <error403> how do i upgrade to 3.4.1? [11:26] <hussam> add this to your /etc/apt/sources.list [11:26] <hussam> deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary-updates main [11:26] <hussam> then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade [11:27] <Tm_T> hussam: I upgraded [11:27] <error403> ok [11:27] <error403> will do [11:27] <hussam> Tm_T: did you upgrade kdevelop? [11:27] <error403> how stable is it? [11:28] <Tm_T> hussam: hmm, I'm not sure... [11:28] <Tm_T> error403: stable [11:28] <error403> good [11:28] <error403> lol [11:28] <error403> i dont like messing with unstable [11:28] <error403> i move to linux because it WORKS [11:28] <error403> lol [11:28] <hussam> error403: pretty stable. as I said it resolved all problems I had with the previous release. [11:29] <error403> cool [11:29] <error403> will do then [11:29] <Firetech> It gave me problems with JuK, but I switched to amaroK. === error403 loves nano [11:30] <error403> lol [11:31] <error403> is it just me, or can permissions in Kubuntu be a real pain a lot of the time? [11:31] <Firetech> hussam: I agree about kopete, now there's a difference between online and offline icons :) === JensK [~JensK@p54904B7A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:32] <hussam> Firetech: JuK still works here. but then again I prefer kaffeine. [11:32] <Firetech> hussam: it crashes after playing about 5-20 songs [11:32] <Tm_T> amaroK <3<3<3 [11:32] <Firetech> meant 5-10, but 5-20 became better [11:33] <Firetech> amaroK 1.2.4 + aKode is the right for me [11:33] <hussam> Firetech: I can't tell, I only have 3 mp3 files. I usually listen to CDs [11:33] <Firetech> :P [11:33] <hussam> Firetech: plus kaffeine plays DVDs perfectly. [11:33] <Firetech> I uninstalled kaffeine, using kplayer instead [11:33] <Firetech> Xine bugs me. [11:34] <Firetech> I don't have a DVD, so I don't really care === m-fox [~m-fox@port-212-202-9-80.dynamic.qsc.de] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] [11:35] <hussam> I used to have a cd writer but I thought I'd get a dvd rom. ( they're pretty cheap ) === _buz [~buz@80-218-107-8.dclient.hispeed.ch] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [11:36] <hussam> Firetech: I might get a dvd burner but I'm looking for a good price. [11:36] <Firetech> One store is selling Dual Layer DVD burners for 699 SEK (roughly 70) [11:37] <hussam> 70 is like how much dollars? [11:37] <Curalton> 80 [11:37] <Firetech> that's roughly 70$ too [11:37] <Firetech> pretty roughly [11:38] <hussam> that's an excellent price. [11:38] <Firetech> gah... [11:38] <Firetech> amarok has crashed again. [11:38] <Curalton> 84.70 to be precise, rate is 1.21 atm :) [11:38] <Firetech> amarok crashes after about 35 songs... === sirukin [~sirukin@64.247.151.242] has joined #kubuntu [11:38] <Firetech> Curalton: count from SEK instead [11:39] <Firetech> I'm not sure about the SEK -> currency [11:39] <Firetech> *rate [11:39] <Curalton> 93 Dollars even from Swedisch Crowns [11:40] <StR> who was asking about kdevelop? [11:40] <hussam> still, imo, anything lees than a 100 dollars for a dual layer dvd burner is good [11:40] <hussam> StR: i was [11:40] <StR> hussam: you use kdevelop to develop what? may I ask? [11:41] <sirukin> I use kdevelop to develop geekly girl arms. [11:41] <StR> I would like to develop with QT#.... but I see the proyect is dead... [11:41] <hussam> StR: 3.2.1 didn't work. I had to downgrade to 3.2.0 [11:41] <sirukin> gtk# [11:41] <Tm_T> eeh === necui [~necui@anp29.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu [11:41] <hussam> StR: my sister writes software for university projects [11:42] <StR> sirukin: yes.. I l know.. but.. I would like to use kdelibs or qt... [11:42] <hussam> StR: this is why I needed kdevelop [11:42] <StR> hussam: in c++? [11:43] <hussam> StR: yeah. but I'm not the programmer here. [11:44] <hussam> brb === hussam [~hussam@194.126.31.19] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === hussam [~hussam@194.126.31.19] has joined #kubuntu [11:45] <seek205> Does anyone know why I can't play sound in fullscreen games? I have sound on the desktop? [11:46] <StR> seek205: like what game? === michelp [~michel@166.170.5.72] has joined #kubuntu === Jimi` [jimi@host187-115.pool8254.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu [11:47] <seek205> um tuxracer [11:47] <hussam> seek205: I had a similar problem in supertux. It went away when I installed libsdl1.2debian-all [11:48] <Jimi`> hello everybody [11:48] <Jimi`> I'm looking for kubuntu italian channel :-) [11:49] <seek205> hussam: thx trying that now [11:50] <seek205> hussam: thanks that worked! [11:50] <hussam> seek205: :) === _franck [~franck@84.4.102.5] has joined #kubuntu === viriatus [~ricardo@195-23-147-171.net.novis.pt] has joined #kubuntu === necui [~necui@anp29.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu [11:53] <Jimi`> thanks a lot [11:53] <Jimi`> good bye === Jimi` [jimi@host187-115.pool8254.interbusiness.it] has left #kubuntu [] === apollo2011 [~ksut@69.177.14.78.adsl.snet.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:58] <apollo2011> I am trying to use Azureus but it doesn't seem to find Java. I believe kynpatic had installed it but I also just installed it from the java self extracting file. How do I get Azureus to see it?

=== philipacamaniac [~phliipaca@208-47-135-198.dia.cust.qwest.net] has left #kubuntu [] [12:01] _tomas_: what is the error? [12:02] if ztonzy comes back his new blender.deb is ready for testing [12:02] <_tomas_> Error al intentar abrir el archivo [12:03] _tomas_: #kubuntu.es or so? [12:03] or... maybe apt-get install unrar [12:03] alt-tab not working in breezy...known problem ? [12:04] breezy is debian/sid extreme edition atm :) [12:04] <_tomas_> XDD i'm alone in kubuntu.es [12:04] _tomas_: es un archivo rar? [12:05] <_tomas_> sip, un rar [12:05] <_tomas_> he provado con tres [12:05] <_tomas_> y todos el mismo error [12:05] <_tomas_> ya he hecho el apt-get install unrar [12:05] <_tomas_> y sin problema [12:05] <_tomas_> per no descomprime === dabugas [~dab@ipd213.218.tellas.gr] has joined #kubuntu [12:06] has anyone installed kde from a kubuntu cd on top of ubuntu? [12:06] yep [12:07] i have a problem with the gnupg authorization === panickedthumb [~travis@68.118.21.165] has joined #kubuntu [12:07] E: Sub-process gpgv returned an error code (2) [12:07] W: Signature verification failed for: /media/cdrom0/dists/hoary/Release.gpg [12:07] _tomas_: el rar es completa? [12:07] (sorry for the minor flood) [12:07] pls english or i start with german :) === mpathy [~Markus@p54A193A3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [12:08] fine with me. my spanish is terrible anyway === mpathy [~Markus@p54A193A3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #kubuntu [] [12:08] amu: help, pleeease :) [12:08] _tomas_: your rar file may be corrupt === dabugas is desperate [12:09] dabugas: you use hoary? [12:09] While we're speaking in foreign languages, avez-vous compris? [12:09] well, warty somehwat upgraded to hoary [12:09] i've updated the apt-get, dpkg, etc & from what i understand the authorization procedures have changed [12:09] dabugas: and it's a full upgraded hoary? [12:09] nope [12:09] partly [12:10] just the programs i use regularly & their dependencies [12:10] dabugas: that's it, apt 0.6 has such features and it sounds for me that you mixed the things [12:10] apparently this guy ( http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hoary/MD5SUMS.gpg ) has the same problem as me. he solved it but doesn't sufficiently explain [12:10] any ideas for a solution? [12:10] which apt version you running? [12:10] apt 0.6.35 [12:11] i got the url wrong before: it's THIS guy --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26529 [12:11] can you run once: apt-get -o Debug::pkgAcquire::Auth=yes update [12:12] forums :) who cares about forums :) [12:12] yeah [12:12] seems to run ok === FireEgl [Ariel@Atlantica.US] has joined #Kubuntu [12:12] you CD is in ? jusr run next test with apt-get -o Debug::pkgAcquire::Auth=yes upgrade [12:13] s/jusr/just [12:13] it's doing a lot of stuff [12:14] sounds good [12:14] if this works i'll kiss you [12:14] in a manly way, of course [12:15] you run a proxy ? [12:15] hehe [12:16] heh. no. [12:16] ok, the apt-get command ended with me needing to download 348MB which i can't on 33.6 modem [12:16] i closed that and ran synaptic to add the cdrom (too bored to use apt-cdrom) [12:16] than insert you cd, run a apt-cdrom add and rerun the commands === sirukin [~sirukin@64.247.151.242] has joined #kubuntu [12:17] loks like while upgrading from warty ( there was no auth this time ) your upgrade fails in some cases [12:17] can i flood 8 lines or so here or shall i paste them in priv? === _user [~user@h081217089144.dyn.cm.kabsi.at] has joined #kubuntu [12:18] better private === _user is now known as BlueICE === BlueICE [~user@h081217089144.dyn.cm.kabsi.at] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [12:18] ... and since hoary we use apt & auth ... [12:19] noooo!! [12:19] :/ [12:19] I hate this [12:19] I lost my modified icons in upgrade [12:20] Tm_T: put them in thier own theme next time [12:20] amu: any ideas? [12:20] ..continue in private === taomaster69 [~taomaster@68-187-197-013.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:22] psn: own iconset, yes, next time =) [12:22] hmh, now I just need to find a way to get my modified icons back [12:23] Tm_T: there is no way. [12:23] Firetech: there is, IF there's backup [12:23] I'm not sure [12:24] or I do them again [12:24] \o/ [12:24] I got backup :p [12:26] I always do my modifications to linux in other folders, and if I have to overwrite files, I mostly symlink... === LeeJunFan [junfan@s64-186-37-120.skycon.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:27] someone want's a sauna? My CPU is heating up... 61 degrees Celcius :) [12:27] *Celsius [12:27] cook some grill cheese with that sucker === nate__ [~nate@c66.168.31.134.mad.wi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:28] must be a p4 [12:28] p4 pwns all [12:28] except everything amd [12:28] P4 Celeron [12:28] ooooh, the pimp processor [12:28] compiling amarok [12:28] celeron [12:29] anyone know how to switch between tabs in Konsole? [12:29] pointwood, click the tab [12:29] nate__: no bullying, I had to get a new CPU that wasn't prescott... the only one I found was a Celeron [12:29] with a keyboard shortcut :) [12:29] pointwood: shift + arrow keys [12:29] sorry for not being specific enough [12:30] Firetech, I think intel chips are funny, i own all intel, wish i had amd [12:30] pointwood, hehehe, i thought i'd be a smart-alec :) [12:30] thx, not sure why that didn't quite work just before, must have been something with focus :) [12:30] I'm saving to buy an Acer Ferrari later. [12:30] nate__: bastard! :p [12:30] Firetech, oooh, smokin, how is the lcd on that? [12:30] I don't know [12:31] but the computer specs are hot. [12:31] AMD 64 etc. [12:31] oh, that'd be critical for me. Powerful laptops are junk without a great lcd [12:31] hey- i'm to this o/s and i need to know how to install amsn [12:31] ghosting gives the same effect as poor hardware [12:32] nate__: at least the resolution is more than ok [12:32] the refresh rate is what you wanna look at :) [12:32] I think the LCD is quite good for that price [12:32] www.acer.com [12:32] KaiL_, true, but i'd buy that laptop for gaming, and in gaming the refresh rate of the lcd is critical [12:33] I own an Acer Travelmate 803Lci [12:33] I have a Travelmate 4501LCi behind me. [12:33] nate__: gaming on laptops? bad idea [12:33] But that one belongs to my mother [12:34] KaiL_: there are gaming laptops [12:34] KaiL_, I wouldn't buy it if not for gaming, but gaming laptops are great if you have a great lcd to play on, then its just like playin on a CRT. [12:35] a friend of mine bought a laptop specifically designed for gaming... [12:35] yeah, great for LAN parties, i hear [12:35] www.voodoopc.com [12:35] they have great hardware [12:35] the technical data of that Acer laptop looks good, but this Ferrari-design is nothing for me [12:35] and a nice website too :) [12:35] how would i get pictures from a digital camera i have hooked up via us? [12:35] *usb [12:36] http://www.voodoopc.com/sellpage.aspx?productID=1069 [12:36] check that one out [12:38] they are in Calgary, where i live [12:38] the owner is a dink, but a good businessman [12:38] I think he bought a voodoopc... === aseigo knew them when they were pretty much a local only biz. [12:38] anyone in for a flame while i'm waiting for kubutu-desktop to install? [12:38] nate__: *brrrr*, this color... [12:38] my friend that is. [12:39] not sure though [12:39] dabugas: your momma's so ugly that when they turn down the lights in the theatre everyone claps ... how's that? [12:39] dabugas: or was that not what you had in mind? ;) [12:40] aseigo: i was hopping for something more along the lines "i remember when didn't have disks. just tapes. i remember the amstrad you fool. ahahahahahahahahah!" that sort of thing === filippo [~filippo@host30-87.pool8254.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu [12:41] KaiL_, what about the color? You can choose em, you know [12:41] I only looked at the image [12:42] nate__: All Acer Ferrari models (3000-3400) has a 15.0" SXGA+ TFT LCD [12:42] KaiL_, click on the colors, it might be on the next page [12:42] $5749.30 would be the price of what i'd like in the laptop [12:42] Firetech, 17" WSXGA+ 1680X1050 [12:42] wow [12:42] on the voodoopc envy [12:43] 717 [12:43] 15" is ok for me [12:43] makes the ferrari look like a noob [12:43] a 17" laptop is too big to carry around... [12:43] ;P [12:43] I have 17" at my WS. [12:43] yeah, its pretty big, but way smaller than a complete desktop system [12:44] Firetech, its widescreen 17" though, on the voodoopc one [12:44] WSXGA = Widescreen? [12:44] I believe so, yes [12:44] let me google :) [12:45] Short for Wide SXGA, WSXGA is a resolution that supports 1600 by 900 pixels or 1600 by 1024 pixels. [12:45] the kubuntu-desktop metapackage is removing some of the openoffice stuff [12:45] should i worry horribly? [12:45] the voodoo puts the smack down, i'm definitely a fan of them :) [12:45] time for me to go to bed... the time is 12:45 AM, and I'll be picked up from my home at 9:45 AM tomorrow morning... [12:46] Firetech, g'nite euro :) [12:46] Swede, to be more specific [12:46] I saw Star Wars III last night === Firetech likes KDE 3.4.1 and amaroK 1.2.4 with aKode support :) [12:47] amaroK is "manually" compiled [12:47] Firetech, ahhh. whatever, you're all a bunch of weirdo's, only americans are normal, and by americans i mean the arrogant self-centered view that the US is the only country in america [12:47] I can't say anything about that, Sweden is neutral :P [12:47] lol [12:48] go hide in your mountains, swede-boy :) [12:48] just kidding, I can say whatever I want. [12:48] I'm from southern sweden, It's totally flat here [12:48] a likely story [12:49] go yodel or something ;P [12:49] too many americans mix up Sweden and Swizerland... [12:49] both are neutral though... [12:49] meh, thats what i was thinkin [12:49] update done; i'm restarting. if i don't show up again it either didn't work. or i fell asleep. [12:49] g'night [12:49] and both are pronounced Swi... [12:50] later [12:50] Firetech, see, thats my problem, you guys should change your name so i don't get as confused [12:50] Firetech, all the world should bow to the Americans' (Self-centered view) will [12:51] Sweden lies between Norway (OIL!), Finland (Nobody can understand their language) and Denmark. [12:51] ouch, that sucks [12:51] america, foreign country 1, foreign country 2, foreign country 3 :) [12:51] nah, all three are ok [12:51] norwegians are most easy to understand :P === uniq is from norway. [12:52] no they aren't! bow to my will! [12:52] and i get visitors from sweden tomorrow. === NTolerance [~nt@cpe-024-162-255-174.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:52] uniq: we want the union back ;) [12:52] no we don't. [12:53] actually they are military too :) [12:53] sweet, KDE 3.4.1 somehow makes the GAIM systray icon transparent [12:53] NTolerance, so does xfce [12:53] NTolerance: why don't use kopete in KDE? [12:54] *cough kopete sucks cough* [12:54] bow to my will! [12:54] sorry, i'm tired and moronic today === sander__ [~sander__@pool-141-157-250-99.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:54] i don't use xfce [12:54] konver*!@ is pretty awful, too. Long live btlbee and irssi! [12:55] i have heard bad things about kopete and already had a gaim config, so that's what i use [12:55] NTolerance, you should try xfce, its pretty nice, very configurable [12:55] i'm addicted to baghira for KDE [12:55] ahhh, i see [12:56] never tried baghira, what are its' features? [12:56] Konversation is nice. If only the inline spellchecker would stay on by default. [12:56] Anyone tried the 3.4.1 debs yet? Any breakage? [12:56] sander__, konversation was my irc prog of choice until it started making xfce freak out === Firetech cuts off the transatlantic cables 8D === alex_ [~alex@user-1234.l1.c4.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [12:57] nate is too self-centered. [12:57] nooooo!!!! not my umbilical cord! [12:57] nate__: hmm in what way does it make xfce freak out? [12:57] Firetech, sure am! I'm american! bow to my WILL!!!!! [12:57] nate__: it's a Mac OSX theme for KDE, looks very nice...very configurable, has some nice mouseover highlighting that other themes don't have [12:57] psn, it makes my background disappear and i can no longer use the right click menu on the desktop. [12:57] sander__: i am running 3.4.1, no problems so far === Firetech bows to his own will [12:58] wile writing a will [12:58] *while [12:58] nate__: Bummer. [12:58] and talking to Will. [12:58] sander__, exactly, konversation rules, too bad it won't work with xfce, which i'm addicted to === _Church_Of_Foamy [~Foamey@24-177-160-171.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:58] the only problem I got with 3.4.1 is that JuK broke. [12:59] I'm using amaroK again instead. [12:59] i like konversation [12:59] luuuuuke, uuussseeee the fooooorrrrccceee [12:59] gnite world. [12:59] nate__: ah sounds like the desktop crashes... can't come up with a reason though, it doesn't do anything special with the desktop [12:59] I like KVIrc [12:59] it even works in gnome :) [12:59] Konversation weened me off my last GTK app. Not that I have anything against them or anything. :) [01:00] psn, yeah, i had no idea either, so i stopped using it, xchat works ok, just its systray plugin works very poorly [01:00] Firetech, gnite swedish mountain yodeler who bows to my will! [01:00] sweden != switzerland [01:01] Firetech, yodeleyhihoo!? [01:01] nate__: I might take a look sometime if I feel like installing xfce [01:01] psn, xfce is very configurable, i definitely like it. Give it a shot, worst case scenario you just uninstall it :) === _blackdog [~blackdog@201.246.147.171] has joined #kubuntu [01:02] nate__: well I'm a kde devel :) [01:02] but, as long as you americans think that, noone will attack sweden, too many americans has got secret money in strange swizz banks. === _blackdog [~blackdog@201.246.147.171] has left #kubuntu [] [01:02] psn, consider yourself excluded :) lol [01:03] psn: if you try xfce you might become a xfce devel instead? :P [01:03] Firetech, yodel? yodelayhihoo? ahhhh, yodel yodel! === Firetech barks [01:03] Firetech, do you wear leiderhosen? [01:03] no [01:03] Firetech: not likely /me and gtk doesn't agree [01:03] I wear normal pants. [01:03] Firetech, awww, you just ruined my mental image [01:04] Firetech, a guy typing on irc while yodeling and wearing clogs with leiderhosen === Firetech barks, yawns, and goes to bed. [01:04] not really... [01:04] do all the swede's wear clogs? [01:04] Firetech, a typical Swedish computer nerd. [01:04] Firetech, oh, so you DO wear clogs, ok [01:05] lol, sorry, i think this is soooo funny :) [01:05] Firetech: well then I'm atypical [01:05] no swedes wear it, an mostly noone in swizerland either. [01:05] psn, you wear leiderhosen? [01:06] nate__: clogs now and then... well the modern version of them at least [01:06] does anyone here use the keyboard shortcuts for kmix? [01:06] drain bamaged. can't think of any funny american prejudices... [01:06] psn, i'm glad you can admit it. admitting is the first step to recovery === qweeq [~qweeq@c-24-6-97-245.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:06] Firetech, we all carry guns [01:07] nate__: I use them at work... which isn't all that uncommon [01:07] guns are expensive :( === philipacamaniac [~philip@ip68-228-49-137.tc.ph.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:08] psn, would you jump off a bridge if everyone else at work did? === mez_ is now known as Mez [01:08] NTolerance, we shoot people for them, its cheaper that way [01:08] I saw an episode of Extreme Makeover Home edition some weeks ago... Some guy had been shot on the street, then the shooter had come forward to him and said: "Oh, sorry, you were the wrong guy. Can I help you in any way?" [01:08] that's just plain sick. [01:08] thats the american way! well, at least the texans [01:08] nate__: no but wearing them is mandatory.... [01:09] this was in the slum of LA I think. [01:09] psn, its a sad day for the swedes...... [01:09] Firetech, must have been a traveling texans. they're like cockroaches, scattering from place to place [01:09] psn: are you from swizerland? [01:10] Firetech: nope sweden [01:10] wearing clogs? === panickedthumb [~travis@68.118.21.165] has joined #kubuntu [01:10] Firetech: I said the modern version of them [01:10] nate__: I can tell you that psn isn't very typical. [01:11] you meanm like... a belt? [01:11] Firetech: i don't work in IT so probably not in this channel === _sander [~sander__@pool-68-161-15-119.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === ..[topic/#kubuntu:amu] : http://www.kubuntu.org/~amu/kubuntu-5.04.1-i386-live.iso | KDE 3.4.1: deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary-updates main | Unofficial Kubuntu FAQ http://kudos.berlios.de/ | breezy broken for g++ and dbus fun [01:11] psn: where in Sweden do you live? [01:11] psn, you devel for kde but don't work in IT? what is sweden coming to!?!?! [01:12] Firetech: Kumla [01:12] psn: the prison or the city? ;) [01:12] Firetech: outside the walls :) [01:12] aww. [01:13] please test the new hoary liveCD with kde 3.4.1 === kpanic [~kpanic@schemacoop.it] has joined #kubuntu [01:13] I'm from a village outside Lund. [01:13] hey guys, do you know if there is qtparted in kubuntu live powerpc? [01:13] kpanic: no, it isnt [01:14] I've successfully upgraded to KDE 3.4.1 (on my home computer) via the cdrom I made earlier. [01:14] amu: /me is loading the damned CD, then :P [01:14] philipacamaniac: cool [01:14] amu, k :( it could be a great add if one wants to maintain his macosx [01:15] goodnight world of linux. [01:15] and the rest of it too. [01:15] Firetech: thx would be fine, for me it works, before annouceing to to everywhere i need min. a sec. test :) [01:15] amu: I can download the livecd as early as tomorrow and test it [01:15] kpanic: there are some plans for it for the next release [01:15] amu, run and hide! we have 2, COUNT IT! 2 SWEDES IN HERE!!!! [01:16] dontpanic [01:16] Don't Panic [01:16] amu: I wont tet it before tomorrow. [01:16] philipacamaniac: that would be great, thanks a lot [01:16] run and hit, ONE nate__ in here! [01:16] *hide [01:16] nate__: sorry i cant find the point :) [01:16] I'm too tired to chat. [01:16] lol [01:16] or run and hit [01:16] amu, cool. very good. thanks and keep up the good work. ok, I'll take another path, I want to use GNU/Linux :) [01:16] bye people [01:16] nite === kpanic [~kpanic@schemacoop.it] has left #kubuntu [] [01:17] thats fine too :) [01:17] good night, for the fifty eleventh time. [01:18] n8 Firetech === Razor-X [razorx@everest.sosdg.org] has joined #kubuntu [01:18] i'm tired [01:18] i'm gonna go lay down === _pedro [~pedro@84-121-130-16.onocable.ono.com] has joined #kubuntu === _Church_Of_Foamy [~Foamey@24-177-160-171.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:25] <_pedro> hi @ll out there [01:27] <_pedro> you are very quiet [01:27] yup === alex_ [~alex@user-1234.l1.c4.dsl.pol.co.uk] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === billytwowilly [~chris@S0106000c413a2c0c.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:33] <_pedro> somebody from spain? === foodcoman [~berickson@mcdonaldwhsl.com] has joined #kubuntu === foodcoman [~berickson@mcdonaldwhsl.com] has joined #kubuntu === BROKEN_LADDER [~pral@h-67-101-103-122.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #KUBUNTU === viriatus [~ricardo@195-23-147-171.net.novis.pt] has joined #kubuntu === omni_lonnie [~lonnie@home.limbonia.com] has joined #kubuntu === blueyed [~daniel@iD4CC0360.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu === peterj [~peterj@i205z6cm7.cable.soderhamn-net.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:21] hiya === __Ace__ [~love@h55l211.delphi.afb.lu.se] has joined #kubuntu [02:23] anyone here could help me with probably a silly problem i got [02:24] as far as i could understand from the documentation i should be able to run kynaptic as im the first and only user on this system except root but i am not, since i'm not in the sudoers group === mez [~mez@82-36-228-130.cable.ubr01.perr.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [02:28] eeh? [02:28] peterj: as default, all are in sudoers list [02:28] I mean all [02:29] I got rid of that rootless thing. I like having root. [02:29] you had root all along [02:30] yup [02:30] it's just "hidden" [02:30] "sudo passwd root" help ;p [02:33] crimsun: I know, but people call it rootless cause you can't log in as root or whatever. [02:33] mrmanic: they like the warm 'n fuzzies [02:34] mrmanic: doesnt sudo -i log you in as root ? [02:34] crimsun: I don't know what you mean by that, but whatever it is it makes me feel kind of uncomfortable. [02:34] othernoob: I have no idea. I never tried it. [02:35] then go ahead and try it ;) [02:35] cause it says root after you entered the password.. [02:35] :) [02:35] thanks othernoob [02:35] yw [02:35] apparently I'm the otherothernoob [02:35] :\ [02:35] I'm some kind of noob anyway [02:35] mrmanic: it means "some people like to play semantic games" [02:35] othernoob= utternoob ;) [02:36] crimsun: ten four good buddy [02:36] crimsun: what do you mean by semantic games ? [02:36] othernoob: playing word games [02:37] (but not just word games, games with meanings, too) [02:37] heh, i know what semantic means.. but i meant ..could you give me an example ;) [02:38] othernoob: init 2 and init 3, for instance [02:38] heh i see === roel_s [~roel@80.165.19.101] has joined #kubuntu === nldk [~roel@80.165.19.101] has joined #kubuntu === Furic [~Furic@c211-30-113-130.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [02:41] im updating kde via the kde mirrors for kubuntu, theres no probs there right? [02:42] Furic > I had to uninstall kdm before upgrading. Afterwards I installed it again. Otherwise all went smoothly [02:42] The new kde solved some nasty konqueror and kuser crashes on my systems [02:42] ooh [02:43] does kopetes msn upport work too? [02:43] yep [02:43] now, is that a good thing or a bad thing, im not totally sure [02:44] i guess it's ok that kopete supports msn?? [02:44] Furic: why not to use kubuntu repos? [02:44] Tm_T does kubuntu have an aussie mirror? [02:45] Furic: does it have to? [02:45] and I think yes [02:45] hmm... oh well the upgrade has started now [02:45] :p === wirwzd [~wirwzd@c-24-218-115-209.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === reagleBRKLN [~reagleBRK@cpe-69-203-149-103.si.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:48] how do I add apt repository gpg keys to my system? [02:49] to which user? [02:49] hmm, there's something in wiki? [02:49] root? [02:50] anyone know if the 3.4.1 kubuntu debs have the kpilot patch applied? [02:50] when I add a none-official repository apt keeps bugging me about unsigned packages [02:50] having it eat my memos sounds a little scary [02:52] nldk: yes, there was something in wiki about it [02:52] gotta link [02:52] nldk: http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf1.html#h2add step 7 ? === ilba7r [~ilba7r@d141-64-4.home.cgocable.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:53] great - thanks! [02:53] yw === VaderDarth [~chatzilla@pc082075.rosandglad.liv.ac.uk] has joined #Kubuntu [02:55] hi [02:55] what is kubuntu pls [02:55] is it different from ubuntu? [02:55] kubuntu uses kde as window system [02:55] ubuntu uses gnome [02:55] kubuntu uses kde instead of gnome [02:56] thats it [02:56] so is the same apps etc [02:57] not quite.. [02:57] not really [02:57] ubuntu uses gnome, thus has the gnome based progs.. [02:57] and kubuntu uses kde, thus kde progs.. [02:57] check out: www.gnome.org and www.kde.org [02:58] you'll see the difference [02:58] which is better [02:58] kde [02:58] kde! [02:58] :-) [02:58] what is K de [02:58] VaderDarth, you know you're asking on the Kubuntu channel, right? try the same ? on #ubuntu [02:59] oh geez, go read the pages [02:59] =) [02:59] is kubuntu going to localize firefox for kde instead of gnome? [02:59] K for everything? === regeya [~shane@adsl-sp3-cdale176.micgi.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:59] Kool ;p [02:59] what does the K stand for [02:59] pls === Furic [~underlord@c211-30-113-130.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [02:59] Kool as far as I know [02:59] eek [03:00] mrmanic: what you mean? [03:00] who cares [03:00] i wasn't so lucky it appears [03:00] i know d e is for desktop environment === reagleBRKLN crosses fingers and hopes juk/musicbrainz works in the new debs [03:00] K doesn't stand for anything anymore [03:00] yup [03:00]