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johante: yeah, why? :P12:00
KragenSitakerhi.  is this the place to ask for help diagnosing problems with Evolution under Ubuntu?12:00
anteThink my default looks are pretty bad12:00
anteis*12:00
anteits boring12:00
johKragenSitaker: ask your question here :)12:00
KragenSitakerMine hangs for a minute or two and never connects, ever since upgrading from warty to hoary.12:00
johante: use xmms then12:00
KragenSitakerTo the Exchange server.12:00
KragenSitakerother people in the company haven't had this problem with Evolution.12:01
johKragenSitaker: is this ubuntu-specific or evolution?12:01
antemy xmms cant handle shoutcast stream music12:01
KragenSitakerrunning on Ubuntu.12:01
KragenSitakerIt's my-laptop-specific, apparently.12:01
johKragenSitaker: same version of evolution?12:01
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KragenSitakeryes, running on Hoary also12:01
johKragenSitaker: what is your problem exactly?12:01
KragenSitakerEvolution hangs for a minute or two and never connects to the Exchange server, ever since upgrading from warty to hoary.12:02
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KragenSitakerAlso GNOME tells me various evolution processes have died.12:02
KragenSitakersomething about an alarm manager.12:02
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KragenSitakerAnd Evolution says things are timing out talkign to the Exchange backend process.12:02
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johKragenSitaker: have you checked the bts?12:02
KragenSitakermalone?12:02
joh?12:03
KragenSitakerEventually I get "Could not connect to server xxxx: Network error"12:03
johbug tracking system12:03
KragenSitakerI have not.  I suppose I should have done that first.12:03
gubok the patched libx11-6&libx11-dev version 6.8.2-20keys1 for hotkeys (ctrl...) on breezy are available on http://hybrid-dev.net/ubuntu breezy main12:03
KragenSitaker(xxxx is of course the name of the server)12:03
johKragenSitaker: might be a good idea :)12:03
johok12:03
antewhat do I need to skin rhythmbox?12:03
KragenSitakerwhere is the Ubuntu BTS?12:04
johante: you don't skin your rhythmbox.12:04
dabugashas anyone installed kde from a kubuntu cd on top of ubuntu?12:04
johKragenSitaker: bugzilla.ubuntu.com12:04
KragenSitakerthanks!12:04
anteBut Joh u said its possible to change the looks12:04
johno problem! :)12:04
johante: of the whole gnome environment, yes.12:04
KragenSitaker(uhoh, bugzilla)12:04
anteof rhythmbox12:04
johante: I never said that.12:04
anteok..12:05
johante: if you want a skinnable player, go for xmms.12:05
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anteBut xmms cant handle the streaming music I listen to12:05
johante: you can change the theme of all gnome applications though.12:05
spanglesontoastis there .deb package for ntfs-driver?12:05
anteok thnks12:05
shinuwhen i do an alias, why doent it save it? if i run a new xterm its not there anytmore...12:05
johspanglesontoast: ntfs-driver? like the kernel driver for reading ntfs filesystems?12:05
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spanglesontoastya12:06
johshinu: you have to add it to one of the startup scripts. like ~/.bashrc12:06
johspanglesontoast: I think it should be in the standard ubuntu kernel.12:06
shinuoh...12:06
shinuok thanks12:06
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lonewolffhey, does anyone know why when i try to hotswap on my dell inspiron it works except if im swapping cd-drive for something else when upon ejecting the cd drive the system locks up completely?12:07
johspanglesontoast: note though, that ntfs support in linux is limited. You can read, but write only if you do not change the size of the file you are writing to :P12:07
johshinu: np.12:07
spanglesontoastya12:07
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spanglesontoastbut is there a .deb package?12:08
johspanglesontoast: you are unable to mount the ntfs filesystem?12:08
zoddanwhere can i find the guide how to install windows fonts on ubuntu ???12:08
spanglesontoastwell is it already installed?12:09
johspanglesontoast: I think so.12:09
spanglesontoastah12:09
johspanglesontoast: it's pretty standard.12:09
[koji] spanglesontoast: it's compiled in the kernel12:09
spanglesontoasthow do I mount it?12:09
[koji] spanglesontoast: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs12:10
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anto9uslonewolff: I have an inspiron too but I don't hotswap so haven't encountered that problem. You might want to try the hotswap package in universe which promises to deregister ide devices12:10
zoddananyone ??????12:10
runedudehm12:10
johspanglesontoast: mount /dev/hdX /mount/point12:11
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lonewolffanto9us: i will give that a try, thanx, out of curiosity what inspiron do you have (i hot swap when running out of battery and away from power hehe)12:11
johzoddan: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FontInstallHowto12:11
anto9uslonewolff: 9100, I have spare batteries but they're not for the drive bay, I have to shutdown or find a power socket :(12:12
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spanglesontoastit thinks my partition doesn't exist12:12
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spanglesontoastdw12:13
spanglesontoastlol12:13
spanglesontoastmissed the d12:13
lonewolffanto9us: ah i have a 4150, so the drive bay also acts as a second battery bay which is good (8 hours use from 2 batteries)12:13
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snowsealhow to properly install mplayer?12:13
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anto9uslonewolff: yeah, mine does too, I don't find it too much of an inconvience right now but if I ever do I'll look into getting one12:14
nernhey12:14
nerni need help with my fstab12:14
zoddanjoh: that not it12:14
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zoddans12:14
priestin which directory shall i put w32codecs to mplayer?12:14
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nernim trying to get it to mount a fat32 partition, i have my directory made and i can get it set to mount on bootup, but all users do not have read and write priveledges12:15
johsnowseal: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/CompileMplayerHowto maybe...12:15
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snowseali compiled it and it works.12:15
linuksoAh, just finished reinstalling ubuntu with my crappy cd-rom, only had to remount the disk once....12:15
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zoddananyone know the URL to the page that shows how to install windows fonts in ubuntu ?12:15
nerni would like to be able to have my fstab configured so that the fat32 drive mounts on boot and is accessible and writable by any user12:15
JohnnyfavI'm having real problems setting up this nvidia driver12:15
snowsealbut its crasy and it wont integrate with the windwo manager12:16
johzoddan: yes it is: "The msttcorefonts contains the Mircosoft free fonts, including Arial, Comic Sans and Times New Roman."12:16
zoddanjoh: ?12:16
sevetsHey12:16
FikrannHey falks, I have a slightly broader question .. Which network filesystem would you recommend?12:16
dooglushttp://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005250039,,00.html12:16
johzoddan: or do you want to install ttf fonts in linux?12:16
zoddanjoh: im talking about tahoma in gnome not corefonts.........!!!12:16
sevetsAnyone know why a basic ubuntu install would not play an mp3?12:16
johzoddan: oh.12:16
nernanyone?12:16
nernanyone that can help me with this fstab thing12:16
johzoddan: well, it's all there.12:17
dooglusnern, sure.12:17
KragenSitakerugh, I have to create a bts account12:17
runedudejoh: well, err, i get this error http://pastebin.com/29293712:17
dooglusnern: what's the problem?12:17
zoddanjoh: where ?12:17
JohnnyfavI downloaded the nvidia driver from the nvidia the one where I change the X conf file to ='nvidia' and I can't get around this kernel source package crap....what do I do?12:17
nerndooglus: thanks, i want to be have my fat32 drive mount on boot with full reading and writing priveledges for all users.12:17
zoddanjoh: ??12:17
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lonewolffanto9us: thanx a lot for the help that worked12:18
runedudeJohnnyfav: i just did apt-get install nvidia-kernel and it took care of all of it for me12:18
dooglusnern, I got that much.  what's the problem?  did you add a line to /etc/fstab already?12:18
johzoddan: the url I gave you.12:18
johrunedude: hmm...12:18
johrunedude: is this a dvd?12:18
runedudenope12:18
zoddanjoh: where ?12:18
runedudecdr12:18
johrunedude: how large is it?12:18
runedudeerm12:18
nerndooglus: yeah the only part i need help with is the options, i have everything else right12:18
runedudelet me look @ the cd12:18
johzoddan: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FontInstallHowto12:18
mellosevets: mp3s are patented, that's why12:18
runedudeIt's a 700MB CDR12:19
runedudeVerbatim12:19
mellosevets: a fresh Ubuntu install is completely free and unpatented12:19
sevetsmello: well ofcourse12:19
johrunedude: how large is the iso?12:19
dooglusnern: if you don't put "noauto" as an option, it should be automatically mounted.12:19
runedudeAbout 614MB12:19
sevetsmello, the music player says it can play mp312:19
dooglusnern: umount it, then run "mount -a" - does it get mounted?12:19
johrunedude: should work then...12:19
runedudesevets: yeh, but, your soundcard probably isnt supported..12:19
Johnnyfavrunedude: E: Package nvidia-kernel has no installation candidate12:19
mellosevets: http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs12:19
runedudejoh: hm, yea, should, i had a few troubles with this writer on Windows.12:20
mellotry that12:20
sevetsrunedude, by the music player? Because sounds are coming through the speakers12:20
sevetsthanks mello12:20
zoddanjoh: i said thats not it12:20
melloyep12:20
zoddanjoh: its wrong12:20
nerndooglus: what I really need is to know what options will enable all users to read and write the drive12:20
runedudeJohnnyfav: erm... well.. I am pretty sure thats what I installed..12:20
melloi'm waiting to see what breezey has for multimedia12:20
KragenSitakerugh, now the bug tracking system won't consent to send updates to a bug to my work address because I created the account with my home addres12:20
zoddanjoh: i have seen another, cant remeber the URL, and it works mutch better and simpler12:20
mellohoary is a son of a gun when it comes to movies/music12:20
runedudeheh, well, sevets make sure you are using the correct output plugin ;-)12:20
melloi would love a fresh install of breezey..12:20
crimsunKragenSitaker: just add your work address to the CC?12:20
KragenSitakeri tried.  it complains that it doesn't "match anything."12:21
ghatakSystem Monitor shows memory usage = 89.5MB, if i start top. it shows memory usage = 147mb . what does thtis mean12:21
nernmello: hoary isnt mean... all it took for me to be fully functional was apt-get install totem-xine w32codecs12:21
runedudejoh: as i mentioned, i have had several issues with this CDWriter on Windows, and just tried a new box I got.... Not working in a nutshell.12:21
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sevetsrunedude, haha well I shall check that out I suppose12:21
runedude:)12:21
mellobreezy*12:21
dooglusnern: I don't think you need any options for that.  I use these:  /dev/sda5 /mnt/fat   vfat noauto,user,umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-1,uid=1000,codepage=850 0 0     and it's fine for me12:21
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Parallaxxanyone can tell me a linux for a server on a Pentium 133 with 64 EDO-RAM??12:21
mellonern: point taken.. i b0rked it hard last time around12:21
runedudeI recommend xmms for mp3s, it has a VERY nice way to input/and output but, any mp3 player you are using probably has a preferences section.12:22
nerndooglus k thx man ill try that12:22
mellonern: ubuntu is an experiment for me12:22
KragenSitakerparalaxx: something that doesn't involve X, if possible12:22
ParallaxxI know12:22
dooglusnern: I have 'noauto' mind.12:22
Parallaxx KragenSitaker: but I cant find one12:22
johzoddan: it's "wrong"? what's that supposed to mean? I don't know which page you read before.12:22
KragenSitakeryou could probably install debian with no X12:22
dooglusand I don't know why I have 'uid=1000' - there's no such user on this OS12:23
zoddanjoh: well thats not it i used before12:23
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johzoddan: can't help you then.12:23
norm_hi - i've described a problem with my WLAN/WPA at http://pub.mcnally.dk/ubuntu_wpa_question.txt - i'd appreciate if someone with a little knowledge about Intel Pro Wireless 2200bg, ubuntu and WPA could take a look at it12:23
zoddan...12:23
runedudejoh: I contacted HP support and they had no idea what was wrong, they just told me to check out settings on Windows... that didnt work ofcourse :\ I think the drive is screwed up totally.12:23
cainehey i can only open gnutella from terminal at the moment...is it possible to create a shortcut for it on my desktop12:23
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[koji] zoddan: tried this? http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrafonts12:24
raDeonWHO CALLED ME12:24
RuffianSoldierGRRR12:24
runedudecaine: sure, make a sh script on ~/Desktop , and inside it put "gnutella"12:24
RuffianSoldierim getting mad12:24
zoddan[koji] : thats not it12:24
johrunedude: try without -overburn ?12:25
cainerune: how?12:25
runedudeOh wait I apologize12:25
runedudeThats not how.12:25
runedudejoh: yeh, i added that originally and posted the log of that12:25
zoddanjoh: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2097612:26
zoddanjoh: there you got it12:26
cainei know how to make a shortcut for a folder and a launcher but how do i make the shortcut something i only know how to open through terminal12:26
johzoddan: ok12:26
runedudecaine: right, look at this http://69.64.39.174/mozillafirefox.desktop < that's a pretty good example of how to do it, thats my firefox example12:26
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runedudeJust change the options, like the EXEC path12:27
cainek12:27
johrunedude: but did you try *without* -overburn?12:27
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runedudejoh: without -overburn returns a error that the media isnt big enough, sorry, i misread12:27
eddlandoshehe12:27
spanglesontoastmirc works12:27
eddlandosI'll die now12:28
eddlandoshehe12:28
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johrunedude: oh, that indicates that the drive is not working properly. This was a 64M iso?12:28
runedudejoh: no, its a 614MB is :)12:28
runedudeiso*12:28
johrunedude: oh, right. Should work anyways. So my guess is that the drive is not reporting to the OS it is able to write anything at all.12:29
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runedudejoh: yea.... :( unfortunatly, i have no idea how to fix this issue.12:29
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johrunedude: have you tried with another cd burner?12:29
runedudeI only have one cdwriter, joh :S12:29
nerndooglus: worked great thanks alot12:29
runedudeI'll try a starwars quote here, for HP, "The force isnt with them"12:30
johrunedude: ok... but this *might* be a problem with cdrecord itself. Not sure.12:30
johrunedude: hehe12:30
runedudejoh: doubt it, i had the same problems on windows with countless applications12:30
dooglusnern, ok.  I don't know what bit did the trick, but glad it worked :)12:30
tonybaloney867i'm new to ubuntu. How do i disable GPG checking the server's signature?12:30
johrunedude: oh, ok.12:31
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runedudethis is a different machine, too12:31
fabshello12:31
runedudehiya fabs12:31
johrunedude: I guess you just have to buy a new one then :(12:31
fabsrunedude, hello :)12:31
runedudejoh: lol.. hm.. wonder if i can smash the  drive first12:31
runedudemaybe I should open it up and toy with its screws and stuff12:32
fabshow u doing guys?12:32
johrunedude: haha, just throw it out of the window.12:32
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runedudeheh, might hit our dog :P12:32
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johrunedude: if it was a hard-drive, you could make two speakers out of it ;)12:32
runedudeheh12:32
runedudei have headphones :P12:32
johrunedude: oh, that's not good.12:32
johrunedude: hehe12:32
runedudehang on ill try to open it12:32
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runedudeim going to get out of this ssh session and irc from my desktop12:33
runedudebrb12:33
johrunedude: so you've never actually been able to write with it properly?12:33
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qweeqho12:34
qweeqhi12:34
fabsqweeq, hi12:34
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qweeqfor some reason i cant run live cd amd 6412:34
johrunedude: so you've never actually been able to write with it properly?12:34
qweeqits hwaurong12:34
qweeqhoary12:34
joh:P12:34
runedudejoh: nope12:34
johrunedude: not even in windows?12:34
psychonatehmm12:35
runedudehad alot of trouble with it (it used to be in my moms computer, but never worked there either)12:35
runedudejoh: nope, no where12:35
qweeqcan some one help me with live cd amd 6412:35
psychonategrip keeps telling me I'm trying to use an invalid encoder executable12:35
johrunedude: I guess you shouldn't break it then :P send it back and ask for a replacement.12:35
anto9usrunedude: have you got the latest firmware in it?12:35
psychonateoggenc should work fine though12:35
runedudejoh: its a old model12:35
johrunedude: oh, too bad.12:36
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runedudeand anto9us , firmware isnt free w/ hp, i would have to pay them for a new driver CD:S12:36
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qweeqanyone wanna help me12:36
cainehey what is the killall command12:36
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anto9usrunedude: I remember a few years ago fixing an HP Writer by doing a firmware upgrade, there were lots of problems with some early models12:36
cainekillall....12:36
runedudehmm12:37
cainei need to killall mozilla12:37
runedudewell, i have no firmware:(12:37
cainebut im not typing it correctly12:37
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runedudecaine: killall mozilla-bin perhaps?12:37
runedudei know mozilla firefox is firefox-bin12:37
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runedudeyou can do ps aux | grep mozilla12:37
runedudeand kill those pids12:38
johrunedude: HP isn't giving out firmware upgrades for free!?12:38
cainenope12:38
anto9usrunedude: try HP tech support, they may let you have firmware for free if you plead poverty and tell them how lovely they are and all that :)12:38
runedudejoh: they used to, but lost money perhaps by giving fixes to their own crappy models that never worked!12:38
xyzxHey Folks what is the best way to provide remote access to my ubuntu/webserver to upload html etc. files?12:38
johanto9us: haha, that's not gonna work :p12:38
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johrunedude: heh12:38
anto9usjoh: it might :)12:38
runedudenow you have to pay to get a cdwriter that works, when you should have got it the first time you bought it!12:38
johanto9us: doubt it, tech-support-people are evil.12:39
qweeqhi pls help i wanna run ubuntu 64 live cd12:39
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nernqweeq: whats the prob12:39
johrunedude: there are laws about that you know :P but not if your cd writer here is very old.12:39
fabsqweeq, explain12:39
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johbye nurv...12:40
anto9usrunedude: in UK faulty goods can be claimed against up to 6 years after purchase, don't know the case for you.12:40
runedudeim a US resident :S12:40
johanto9us: doesn't that depend on the expected lifetime of the goods in subject?12:40
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xinudafter installing kubuntu on amd64 with soft-raid , raid md0 and md1 device fail ? any suggestions12:40
JasonFI've learned that tele tech support people do exactly what you want12:41
johxinud: check the logs?12:41
JasonFif you talk loudly and firmly from first word12:41
anto9usjoh: yes, and also depends on how much use12:41
johJasonF: haha, I've never experienced that :P12:41
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johanto9us: yep, same here in Norway.12:41
JasonFjoh: I've never failed to get what I want from a tech support rep12:41
anto9usfact is, companies don't like losing goodwill and especially when it would cost them nothing12:41
qweeqnern i have zv6000 hp laptop when i boot live cd with no pARAMETERS it lokcs up12:41
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anto9usHP are a good and reputable company in my experience12:42
johJasonF: then I guess you're lucky ;) or just very good.12:42
spanglesontoasthow do I install flash for firefox?12:42
nernqweeq: hmmm, and it has a 64 bit processor youre sure?12:42
JasonFjoh: the latter12:42
qweeqneer thats what says in my computer protperties12:42
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johJasonF: So if I need something from tech support, I'll just contact you then? :p12:43
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admxAnyone know when backports will be up?12:43
nernadmx the backports are fune12:43
snowsealnvidia drivers, can i apt them?12:43
nernadmx fine*12:43
mello6yep12:43
johsnowseal: they're in linux-restricted-modules12:43
snowsealcewl12:43
admxdid the address change12:44
johbtw, anyone got java working on ppc?12:44
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nernadmx you should use the mirrormax ones those work great for me12:44
psychonateargh, wtf is wrong with grip12:44
JasonFjoh: I charge $50/hr consulting12:44
JasonFfeel free to hire me12:44
runedudejoh: well, after 10 minutes of tinkering with the writer, i got it open12:44
JasonFlol12:44
runedudelol12:44
admxWill give that a try. Thz12:45
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johJasonF: haha, :p12:45
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nernadmx: yeah i just checked and they are working fine..12:46
xinudjoh, cat /proc/mdstat tell me that md0 md1 are resync = ... 234.2 min...12:46
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tidalwav1anyone know why sound in VLC media player doesn't work?12:46
qweeqnern still there can you help12:47
johxinud: ok, they're resyncing then. Wait 234.2 mins then :P the time remaining does change, doesn't it?12:47
johJasonF: do I get my money back if you fail to get what I want from the tech support? :p12:47
JasonFjoh: no12:47
johJasonF: thought so :P12:47
tidalwav1I'll take that as  no. :(12:47
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nernqweeq: well if you are certain that you have a 64 bit processor then you should be ok, but you might try using the fbdev xdrvr instead12:48
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xinudjoh, indeed12:48
Stereohi folks12:48
xinudjoh, soi have to wait12:48
johxinud: yup12:48
runedudejoh: well, guess i wont be able to write a cd for a long time, LOL.. anyways, erm... maybe i should try distrobutions with floppy installs12:49
xinudjoh, and reboot after resync is done12:49
runedudeatm, i only have a ubuntu disk and gentoo12:49
johrunedude: oh, that's sad :p12:49
johxinud: no need for reboot12:49
runedudejoh: yea, sad that hp wont give you a working product12:49
dooglusany 'Wine' users here?12:49
johrunedude: did the writer work before?12:49
johdooglus: yes.12:49
johdooglus: to a certain extent that is.12:49
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dooglusjoh: do you know if Macromedia's "shockwave" (not "flash") works in Wine?12:50
nerni never use wine12:50
jdiamondi'm not able to install binfmt-support with synaptic. it's giving me a 404 Not Found when it tries to download it. any ideas?12:50
qweeqnern what do those option do?12:50
StereoI met a french bloke on the train today, he maintains gnome for ubuntu. I just realised I gave him wrong contact details, and I can't for the life of me remember his name. Is there anywhere I could find out who he is? I already tried http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/gnome/gnome but that seems to be mostly debian people12:50
nernqweeq: well i believe the boot parameter would be xdrvr=fbdev ... that is going to tell ubuntu to use the fbdev driver for display rather than vesa, this is sometimes what you have to do on laptops12:51
johdooglus: hmm, not sure. Have you checked the wine appdb?12:51
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runedudejoh: nope, the writer never worked..12:51
dooglusjoh: could you try visiting http://www.isketch.net/isketch.shtml in Wine?  do you see a login screen?12:52
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runedudedooglus: it wont work on linux12:52
dooglusrunedude: why not?12:53
runedudeunless you get ceoffice (30 day trial out there)12:53
johdooglus: sorry, I'm running on ppc where there is *no* flash support :(12:53
johrunedude: crossover office?12:53
runedudeBecause, macromedia didnt port shockwave to linux, and wont12:53
nernyou can get crossover office off of mininova.org12:53
runedudejoh: yea, that12:53
johrunedude: yep, thought so.12:53
dooglusrunedude: I'm asking about WINE...12:53
spanglesontoastshockwave never needed it12:53
runedudeand even crossover office blows at shockwave, cant even do ANYTHING lol.12:53
runedudenope12:53
johdooglus: coffice *is* wine.12:53
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dooglusrunedude: it shouldn't need porting if you use WINE, right?12:53
runedude^ what joh said12:53
dooglusjoh: I don't think it is.  WINE is free, and coffice isn't12:54
johdooglus: coffice is a tweaked version of wine.12:54
runedudecoffice is made with wine12:54
runedude:P12:54
johyep :P12:54
runedudejoh: this cdwriter will make a nice warm fire for me to warm upto tonight :)12:54
dooglusI used to use Win4Lin - that worked fine, apart from rendering fonts.12:54
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dooglusall letters in a shockwave app showed up as empty boxes12:55
iratsu_I get the following error when I try runnign pppoeconf on my box: Sorry, I scanned 1 interface, but the Access Concentrator of your provider did not respond. Please check your network and modem cables. Another reason for the scan failure may also be another running pppoe process which controls the modem12:55
johrunedude: it will!? I didn't know cd writers made good fire"wood"12:56
runedude:p12:56
runedudejoh: if it cant, ill burn it anyways:P12:56
johrunedude: hehe :P then send it to HP12:56
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runedudejoh: maybe i should burn it, then put it in a baggy, and send it to them :P12:57
johrunedude: with a note attached: "This drive is broken, please send a new one"12:57
johrunedude: yeah, sounds like a good idea.12:57
runedudelike I'm going to pay to get a new product that should have worked? nah.. doubt it :S12:57
runedudepfft, i just want to burn cds.. am i asking for much? lol12:58
johrunedude: well, never buy another product from HP, that's for sure.12:58
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johrunedude: also, I've not had a plesant experience with asus cd writers.12:59
anto9usjoh: that counts out compaq and lexmark badged products too then12:59
johanto9us: well, yes :p12:59
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anto9usI've always found HP to be a good manufacturer myself, never liked lexmark though01:01
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runedudegrr.. well, now the case wont go back on01:02
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runedudebrb, im gonna try to find another cdwriter, lol01:02
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P229can ubuntu be installed onto an LVM volume?01:04
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crimsunP229: yes01:05
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P229crimsun: thanks01:05
snowseallinux-restricted-modules not found :(01:05
anto9usP229: you'll need to put /boot outside the LVM01:05
JrwaHi all. I can't find help on the spanish chanel, I hope you can give me a hint01:05
runedudewell, joh, im out a cdwriter, lmao01:05
crimsunsnowseal: you need to append $(uname -r)01:05
runedudethe drive wont go back in01:05
snowsealk01:05
runedudethe tray i mean01:05
P229anto9us: hmmm, I see01:06
nate__wearing leiderhosen and clogs while yodeling and typing on irc01:06
nate__the typical swede01:06
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qweeqhi01:06
JrwaI'm on a kubuntu hoary, and its mounting my dvd on different locations. It's changed from /dev/dvd, to /media/cdrom0 and now to /media/hdc. Isn't it possible to set it to a permanent place or what...?01:06
qweeqhow do i get my keyboard working on ubuntu what parameters should i use01:06
spanglesontoastis nessus good?01:06
nate__nessus is very good01:06
crimsunJrwa: /dev/dvd should work01:07
nate__so is nmap01:07
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runedudehrm01:07
spanglesontoastis it a good idea to install it?01:07
qweeqnern still there01:07
Jrwacrimsun, it doesnt. the folder does not exist, neither when I mount the dvd01:07
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runedudewell, joh know any good distrobutions that can install via floppy disk ( i have quite a few of those ;P ), and er.. other than debian, or bse01:07
runedudebsd*01:07
nate__spanglesontoast, depends on what you're gonna do with it.  if you plan on being dumb and hacking others, then its a bad idea01:07
psychonateI know Jrwa /dev/dvd is not a mount point01:07
psychonateer, "I know" wasn't supposed to be there lol01:07
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Jrwawhere should I be able to find it then? I can't set a folder on my media player settings, because its always changing!01:08
qweeqrundude windows distroction xp01:08
crimsunJrwa: do you have an /etc/udev/cd-aliases.rules?01:08
psychonateYou don't use the mount point for XINE, mplayer, etc.01:08
Jrwalet me see01:08
winstonis there a way to activate the ssh daemon on startup?01:08
crimsunJrwa: err, make that /etc/udev/rules.d/cd-aliases.rules01:08
psychonateJrwa, you typically tell media players which DEVICE FILE to use01:08
carthikwinston, read up on update-rc.d01:08
psychonatenot mountpoint01:08
johwinston: it should already be.01:09
crimsunwinston: just install openssh-server01:09
nate__winston, add a script to init.d?01:09
johwinston: check for /etc/rc*.d/*ssh* symlinks.01:09
carthikwinston, update-rc.d -f <name of service> should add it to the startup scripts01:09
psychonateJrwa, and most will use /dev/dvd by default, so link your device file to /dev/dvd if /dev/dvd does not already exist.01:09
crimsuninstalling openssh-server takes care of all that01:09
runedudeqweeq: huh?01:09
spanglesontoastwell I'm just wondering what people use it for01:09
johcrimsun: yep01:09
carthikwinston, what crimsun said is true :)01:09
nernqweeq: im still here01:09
johspanglesontoast: explore networks.01:09
qweeqwindows distroction xp thats a good distrobution that can install via floppy disk01:09
runedudeperhaps another gentoo install will be fun, lol01:10
qweeqor windows distroction dos01:10
psychonateJrwa, do you see what I mean?01:10
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Jrwacrimsun theres no cd-aliases.rules01:10
Jrwapsychonate, kaffeine ask me for a folder, I think01:10
crimsunJrwa: in /etc/udev/rules.d/ ?01:10
nate__spanglesontoast, to detect vulnerablilities in systems01:10
nernqweeq: someone else with some more experience with the live cds can help more if i couldnt... i havent ever used one of the ubuntu livecds, just mepis, knoppix, kanotix, and DSL01:10
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Jrwajust udev.rules file01:10
crimsunJrwa: did you dist-upgrade from Warty, or did you install cleanly?01:10
psychonateJrwa, for what? for watching DVDs?01:10
nate__spanglesontoast, its a short jump from detecting vulnerabilities to exploiting vulnerabilities01:10
psychonateYou shouldn't need to know the mount point for that.01:11
nufanCan anyone help me with helping out on the wiki?01:11
Jrwapsychonate, yes for watching a DVD01:11
spanglesontoastso it could keep my machine nice an secure01:11
JrwaI updated from Warty01:11
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spanglesontoastbut other people may use it for their own pleasure?01:11
psychonatenah, kaffeine should just need to know which device file01:11
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psychonateWhat *exactly* does it ask you for (exact wording)?01:11
carthiknufan, try joining #ubuntu-doc -- someone there helped me once before01:11
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crimsunJrwa: sudo ln -s /etc/udev/cd-aliases.rules /etc/udev/rules.d/.01:12
Jrwadvd.device (device used for DVD playback)01:12
nernnufan: are you a fan of NUFAN?01:12
Jrwaok01:12
bhankinsGot a copy of the liveCD from a co-worker, this is pretty impressive.01:12
nate__spanglesontoast, you could use from another machine on your machine to detect vulnerabilities, thats about it01:12
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psychonateJrwa, there you go: It wants the DEVICE file01:12
nufannern: No Use For A Name? Sort of01:12
psychonateJrwa, not the mount point01:12
nernnufan: yeah they are ok, but there is always better :)01:12
crimsunJrwa: after you do that, sudo invoke-rc.d udev restart01:12
psychonateJrwa, so, give it the device file01:12
spanglesontoastso it would only be good for a server/01:12
spanglesontoast?01:12
nate__spanglesontoast, it might be illegal to have it outside of a business or lab environment though01:13
Jrwapsychonate, but I dont know where to find it01:13
nate__spanglesontoast, no, its good for any machine that you want to use to detect vulnerabilities on other machines01:13
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Jrwacrimsun, ok, done ^^01:13
crimsunJrwa: just follow my instructions01:13
spanglesontoastah01:13
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nate__spanglesontoast, you pick a target and it tests it for vulnerabilities01:13
psychonateJrwa, /dev/dvd does not exist? If not, link your existing device file for that drive to /dev/dvd/.01:13
crimsunJrwa: you should have a /dev/dvd01:13
psychonateand just tell it /dev/dvd01:14
nate__spanglesontoast, its a short jump from that to hacking, so be careful.  In some places even testing others for vulnerabilities is illegal, i believe01:14
Jrwayes I do01:14
spanglesontoastshame my k6 doesn't work with ubuntu01:14
crimsunJrwa: then you're all set.01:14
Jrwalet me try!01:14
Jrwaoook, it works perfectly now01:15
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runedudejoh: you k onw, I tried a yamaha drive once, didnt work either :(01:15
Jrwathank you very much (english channel is much better than the spanish one :P)01:15
crimsunof course it does. It's an old dist-upgrade issue. :)01:15
winstonok tried to install open ssh but says it depends on openssh-client (=1:4.0p1-1) but 1:3.9p1-1ubuntu2 is to be insstalled01:15
spanglesontoastyou talking to me crimsun?01:15
crimsunwinston: get rid of external repos and update01:15
crimsunspanglesontoast: no, to Jrwa01:16
winstonexcept its already installed01:16
winstonrepos?01:16
crimsunwinston: prime example of why using external repos is bad01:16
johrunedude: eh? :(01:16
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winstonwhats a repos?01:16
anto9usspanglesontoast: pretty much most you have to worry about is plusnet's terms of use if you're going to use nessus over the internet.01:16
crimsunwinston: apt-cache policy openssh-client01:16
P229anto9us: how about if I add ubuntu to my existing grub menu (which is in /boot outside LVM)? would ubuntu's /boot still need to be outside LVM?01:16
spanglesontoasthey01:17
spanglesontoastanto9us01:17
spanglesontoasthow oyu know I'm using that?01:17
anto9usspanglesontoast: that should read.. in plusnet's terms of use01:17
winstoncrimsun yeah? anything else?01:17
winstoncrimsun: yeah? anything else?01:17
anto9usP229: if I understood you correctly, yes01:17
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crimsunwinston: paste in #flood01:18
spanglesontoastanto who you know I'm on plusnet01:18
Johnnyfavhow do you set the openGL resolution?01:18
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anto9usspanglesontoast: your domain name :)01:18
runedudejoh: yea.. well, i didnt do anything in depth... only at default didnt work.. my dad has a cdwriter in his laptop, but very little he lets me write a cd01:18
johrunedude: so you tried another cd writer on the same system as the HP, and it didn't work either?01:19
spanglesontoastoh ok01:19
runedudejoh: err.. believe so01:19
runedudeit was like err... a few months ago01:19
runedudebut01:19
johrunedude: then it's probably not the cd writer..01:19
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johrunedude: which version of cdrecord?01:19
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runedudejoh: the thing is, now I put it into my server box (atm it used to be on my desktop box) , and it wont work on my server OR desktop01:20
runedudeerr lemme check01:20
johrunedude: but it used to work on your desktop? :p01:20
runedudenope01:20
runedudenothing worked on my desktop01:20
runedudeboth writers01:20
runedudejoh: hang on , i got my server apart.. let me rewire it01:20
spanglesontoastimpair the security of the system and/or the network used to provide the Service; or01:20
spanglesontoastI suppose that covers it01:20
bhankinsWould anyone happen to know if the d-link wireless G card DWL-510 V.B1 would work in Ubuntu? I checked the wiki section and its not specifically mentioned. I do know that it uses the Atheros chipset and works with madwifi.01:21
johrunedude: have you tried using another program such as cdrdao to write a cd? just for testing?01:21
crimsunwinston: do not mix debian experimental and ubuntu hoary!01:21
johbhankins: checked the madwifi websites?01:21
runedudejoh: nope01:21
runedudebut i doubt i can do anything w/ the writer, i kinda screwed it up when i was taking it apart (it was very hard to take apart)01:22
johrunedude: try that perhaps. (cdrdao is for audio cds)01:22
johrunedude: oh, this is the same driver?01:22
runedudeer, yes01:22
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johrunedude: I thought you said this was a different one :P01:22
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crimsunwinston: otherwise you'll have to pass an explicit version to aptitude/apt-get01:22
P229anto9us: thank you01:22
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runedudenope, i was saying awhile ago i used to have another drive ;)01:22
anto9usP229: np :)01:22
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runedudebut its long gone now (the yamaha)01:23
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johrunedude: oh, phew :P01:23
bhankinsjoh: yes, I couldn't really tell if hoary already came with madwifi though.01:23
benjamin23anyone here having a problem playing shoutcast streams from amarok?01:24
runedudejoh: maybe my best bet is to use floppies :(01:24
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winstoncrimsun: right I need a prog that was still experiemental, I switched my sources .list back, should I paste again?01:24
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johrunedude: maybe try netinstall?01:24
crimsunwinston: no need. Just pass an explict version to aptitude/apt-get01:25
runedudejoh: heh.. of what?01:25
johbhankins: hmm, I think linux-restricted-modules has madwifi.01:25
rancorusHow does one get pppoe set up on ubuntu?01:25
runedudenetinstalls are a quirk for me, since i have cable and fast dl rate01:25
johrunedude: ubuntu? :p01:25
winstoncrimsun: not sure what you mean?01:26
nernnetinstalls rule01:26
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runedudejoh: they have netinstall via floppy?01:26
johrunedude: not sure...01:26
runedudeheres the thing, atm i have ubuntu 5.04 cd, :P01:26
crimsunwinston: sudo aptitude install openssh-server=1:4.0p1-101:26
nernbefore switching to ubuntu i was all about the debian sarge-netinstall cd01:26
Razor-Xhow would you go about creating a Live CD in general?01:26
runedudeI've been wanting to try a different distro tho, no offense to ubuntu, I LOVE ubuntu and thinks its a very good server platform.01:26
nerni liked to edit the sources.list file so that i would install sid with kde 3.401:26
runedudeon my desktop i use gentoo01:26
nernthat was when i used kde though01:26
bhankinsjoh: thanks I will research into the restricted modules.01:27
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runedudenow, i have err, a livecd01:27
johbhankins: np, just apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` or something.01:27
Razor-Xbur[n] er: i'm a gonna check that out01:27
runedudeI have gentoo as a livecd, so.. er.. maybe I can like uhm, install via that even for slackware stuff( wow, this is getting tricky for me to compile into a good wording)01:28
winstoncrimsun: I figured out my prob, I had switched sources.list so Synaptic was naturrally confused01:28
winstoncrimsun: I just installed the ssh-server01:28
bhankinsjoh,  your right thanks alot, it looks like restricted modules are on by default in the liveCD, so I should be able to tell before I install the real thing. Thanks again.01:28
Razor-XI saw the front page01:28
winstoncrimsun: do I need to configure something from here?01:28
Razor-Xwhat does it include... I wonder...01:29
crimsunwinston: no01:29
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bur[n] erRazor-X: ibuild is a gui to make morphix-based cds01:29
crimsunwinston: (you want openssh-server)01:29
bur[n] erRazor-X: but it could be expanded to use ubuntu sources01:29
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qweeqhi01:29
benjamin23anyone here use amarok01:29
runedudewell, i have all of the CentOS cds downloaded01:29
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benjamin23i need help trying to play http streams01:29
benjamin23they never open01:30
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galactic2can someone help me with a grub problem?01:30
nernno qt progs here01:30
qweeqi was able to boot ubuntu and see the splash screen and my mouse cursor but all of a sudden the mouse got stuck and wont move can someoe help me01:30
nernexcept k3b01:30
bur[n] erRazor-X: also check out mmaker and isomorph from the morphix project (they are more easily expanded to use ubuntu)01:30
benjamin23it says connecting server, and then just gives up01:30
qweeqhi nern pls help01:30
johbhankins: no problem!01:30
benjamin23is there a special port amarok uses?01:30
galactic2my bootloader's freezing on the word "grub"01:30
runedudebrb (again)01:30
nernqweeq: ok whats the model of yer laptop again?01:30
rancorusHow does one get pppoe set up on ubuntu?01:30
qweeqnern its hp zv 600001:31
qweeqits got amd 6401:31
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Razor-Xno, I guess Ibuild isn't the thing for me01:32
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Razor-XI'm a thinking I'm gonna work on a DSL live CD01:32
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geargolemany midi musicians here?01:33
qweeqnern still there01:33
Razor-X(yes I add in the "a" on purpose)01:33
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qweeqis broadcom wireless supported under linux01:33
nerncan anybody with more experience with the live cds maybe give qweeq here a hand? i dont know what the prob is...01:34
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Razor-Xgeargolem: not really a MIDI musician, but I know how it works, and i've tracked before01:34
nernqweeq: whats happening when you try to boot it01:34
galactic2can someone help me with a grub problem?01:34
Razor-Xgalactic2: what's going wrong?01:34
galactic2my bootloader's freezing on the word "grub"01:34
winstoncrimsun: thanks a lot, it works01:34
geargolemRazor-X,  do you use Brahms as an editor?01:34
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nastihey anyone help with putting a game in the game menu01:35
qweeqwell i saw the splash screen of ubuntu and at that time the mouse was still working a couple of cpu cycles then boom mouse got stucked and the system locked up01:35
Razor-Xgeargolem: like I said, i'm not very versed in music, just have a small bit of experience in it01:35
Razor-Xgalactic2: send me your GRUB config01:35
geargolemRazor-X,  same.01:35
Razor-Xor rather, cat it to pastebin01:35
Razor-Xgeargolem: no, I don't use Brahms01:36
galactic2heres my situation ... iv got a RAID array with 2 SATA hard drives on which xp is installed, managed by monterhboard RAID01:36
galactic2i have a third SATA HDD on which i put ubuntu01:36
geargolemcan midi instrument SOUNDS be ported between sequencers?01:36
galactic2im trying to use ntldr to boot grub01:36
nernqweeq: hmm i really dont know... i dont have much experience with the ubuntu live cds like i said :/ so im sorry i dont know... someone here should be able to help you01:36
qweeqk thanks01:36
galactic2right now, grub boots if i tell the bios to boot from the third hdd01:36
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nastianyone know how to put things in the Applications menu01:37
galactic2but if i try to boot it with ntldr using the file i copied with dd, it crashes on grub01:37
nastiusing a .desktop file01:37
Razor-Xgeargolem: not the sounds themselves, MIDI just stores the notes01:37
anto9usgalactic2: it's normally done the other way around, ntldr from grub01:37
Razor-Xgeargolem: you'll want something lossless to store the music itself01:37
qweeqanyone knows why ubuntu crashes on boot? i was able to se the splash screen but all of a sudden my system locks up at the splash screen display. pls help01:37
Razor-Xgalactic2: it's NTLDR booted from GRUB01:37
geargolemRazor-X,  I'm talking about Brahms ability to edit scores01:37
Razor-Xgeargolem: I'm not sure, sorry -_-01:37
runedudeNTLDR *shivers* isnt that windows?01:38
galactic2no im using ntldr to boot grub01:38
geargolemRazor-X,  you can use different voices for your notes i.e. piano, bass slap bass, guitar01:38
galactic2because grub wont recognize my RAID partition01:38
geargolemRazor-X, just trying to find more voices01:38
Razor-Xrunedude: yes, it is01:38
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runedude:o01:38
zoddanok my X cannot start01:38
Razor-Xgalactic2: i'l bet it can, and if not, something else can01:38
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zoddanhow do i reconfigure it ?01:38
runedudeI had a boot error w/ it once, and it well, err.. never worked01:38
zoddani cannot login as root in the console01:38
runedudezoddan: Xorg -configure01:38
zoddanso how do i do ?01:39
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runedudeI had to reinstall windows:(01:39
Razor-Xgeargolem: like I said, i'm not sure :\01:39
galactic2its NVRAID01:39
galactic2which is funky mobo raid that needs drivers for some reason01:39
zoddanrunedude: i cannot run that command01:39
Razor-Xgalactic2: hold on a sec i'm a gonna do some searching for you01:39
nernzoddan: try running sudo passwd and then doing su on the console and you should be able to login as root01:39
zoddanrunedude: "option can only be used by root"01:39
runedudeoh, zoddan hm.....01:39
runedudeyea.. heres what i did.. sudo -s01:39
galactic2its horrible nothing can read it without special drivers ... i cant do anything with it now though because iv got alot of data on the array01:39
zoddannern: no01:39
zoddannern: it says my root password is invalid01:39
zoddannern: cant login01:39
runedudezoddan: use your password for your normal user01:40
zoddani have01:40
zoddandont work01:40
rancorusHow does one get pppoe set up on ubuntu?01:40
anto9uszoddan: see http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo01:40
zoddantalk about fucky up distro01:40
zoddanfuckt01:40
runedudeeg. heres what i did... my account is runedude / blah123... i sudo -s type in blah123 then type passwd01:40
runedude^.^01:40
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runedudenah, sudo actually protects you from ruining system things.01:41
galactic2gtg ... be back in 10mins01:41
runedudelater01:41
nernzoddan: yeah the password for sudo is the same as yer user password, if you run sudo passwd you should be able to just enter your password and then use su to login as root, but i really dont know why tou would want to since you can just do everything with sudo01:41
zoddanah now01:41
zoddani did that sudo thing01:41
zoddanthanks01:41
runedudeyea?01:41
runedude:P np01:41
qweeqanyone knows why ubuntu crashes on boot? i was able to se the splash screen but all of a sudden my system locks up at the splash screen display. pls help01:41
spanglesontoastdoes lmsensors actually work?01:42
nernsomebody help qweeq01:42
nerni have no clues01:42
Razor-Xgalactic2: get back here!01:42
bur[n] erqweeq: try a different window manager?  it work with no X?01:42
bur[n] erqweeq: you get to gdm? and just gnome halts everything?01:42
runedudeqweeq: er.. perhaps a messed up /boot/grub/grub.conf ?01:42
Razor-Xi'll check back in about 8 minutes, better get back to my goal of finishing three years of math in one summer now01:43
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PhantomFreakHello all... I've been trying to make a boot disc using SYSLINUX so I can install Ubuntu from a USB CD-ROM drive... It's aparently not easy, has anyone got any suggestions?01:43
qweeqanyone knows why ubuntu crashes on boot? i was able to se the splash screen but all of a sudden my system locks up at the splash screen display. pls help its LIVE CD01:43
nernbur[n] er: hes using the live cd01:43
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runedudeRazor-X: good luck01:43
bur[n] eroh ohoh01:43
bur[n] erf that01:43
nernbur[n] er: im pretty sure hes talking about the gnome splash01:43
Razor-Xrunedude: hehe ;)01:43
bur[n] erthe ubuntu livecd... i've never had good luck with01:43
zoddani cant run Xorg -configure01:43
runedudeqweeq: oh..... heh, well.. it does actually take awhile for it to start up.. try hitting Escape to see if theres a debug? ;-)01:43
bur[n] ermore power to you if you can get it ;)01:43
transgressrun dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server01:43
runedudezoddan: er.. edit the config file by hand, or, do what transgress said. :P01:44
nernyeah you should just install it to the hdd ;)01:44
bur[n] erdpkg-reconfigure xorg-server is not a good LiveCD solution01:44
bur[n] ermaybe for an installed system, but not from a livecd01:44
transgressoh he's on the live cd?01:44
runedudebur[n] er: he meant to zoddan01:44
transgressi see01:44
runedudeoh01:44
runedudenvm01:44
bur[n] eroh :)01:44
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transgressso am i01:45
transgressi just popped in01:45
runedudeyou all should have queue line ;-)01:45
bur[n] erin any event... back to qweeq, you using the 64 bit livecd for your amd 64?01:45
runedude500 people shouting at the same time can be rather tedious01:45
bur[n] eror the 32 bit ubuntu?01:45
nernyes he is01:45
PhantomFreakAnyone?01:45
nernits the 64bit on a zv6000 hp laptop01:45
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transgresswhat's your problem nern?01:46
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transgressi have a very similar lappy... running ubuntu6401:46
=== bur[n] er has a problem... why is no one developing gftp anymore ;)
runedudenern isnt having the problem, its qweeq 's problem. :P01:46
qweeqi tried gnoppix with it too but not worki ng01:46
transgressoh01:46
runedudeqweeq: you mean Knoppix?01:46
qweeqgnoppix 0.91  think its ubuntu based distro01:46
transgresswell whoever is running the damn ubuntu64...01:46
qweeqgnopix01:46
poningruanyone know a good video conversion tool?01:46
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spanglesontoastis there a good place that lists all debian packages like games etc01:46
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runedudeer.. oh right knopix01:46
poningrulike xvid ->mpeg01:46
runedudethe gnome one :)01:46
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transgressgnoppix is a knoppix based distro... which is a debian based distro01:47
bur[n] ergnoppix is knoppix with gnome instead of kde basically01:47
qweeqi saw ubuntu wall paper with it01:47
runedudebur[n] er: right.01:47
bur[n] erbut it's not great ;)01:47
runedudeqweeq: well.. lol :P01:47
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runedudeActually, I prefer gnome ;)01:47
bur[n] eronly livecd i get to work everywhere is kanotix01:47
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runedudemy gentoo liveCD worked..01:47
JasonFgnoppix is horrible01:47
transgresshaha01:47
nernyeah kanotix is nice01:47
transgressof course the gentoo livecd is a shell...01:47
runedudetransgress: yea, it was hard too :S01:48
nernMEPIS is my favorite liveCD though01:48
bur[n] erand it's based on gentoo... bleh ;)01:48
transgressi enjoyed the gentoo install01:48
transgressrequired thinking01:48
runedudetransgress: yea, rofl, took me about 3 tries to get it working :)01:48
nerni dont think i could do a gentoo install01:48
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bur[n] errequires reading a long document and transposing commands :\01:48
lotusleafhas anyone tried Project Bloated Glass on ubuntu?01:48
poningruso any ideas?01:48
runedudeLinux mercury 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Fri May 20 13:52:48 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux01:48
runedudeoops01:48
runedudewrong version :)01:48
transgressrunedude: took me two.  i was really tired the first time.  next morning after a good nights sleep i did fine01:48
runedudeLinux voodoo 2.6.11-gentoo-r3 #3 Mon May 23 21:09:34 EDT 2005 i686 Pentium III (Coppermine) GenuineIntel GNU/Linux01:49
runedudeyea, i ran mine overnight01:49
PhantomFreakWell, you lot have been pleanty of help! Thanks for just sitting there and ignoring me!01:49
bur[n] ergrr... i wish gaim irc did /exec01:49
runedudetook me about 2 days to install01:49
spanglesontoastwhat's that lotus leaf?01:49
runedudebur[n] er: as do i01:49
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lotusleafspanglesontoast, oh, I mean: Project Looking Glass01:49
transgressPhantomFreak: stop your whining.  like you are paying us or some shit.01:49
lotusleafI guess I used the wrong word. :P01:49
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transgresswhat is project looking glass?01:50
spanglesontoastwhere it at?01:50
spanglesontoastthat java desktop?01:50
runedudegentoo is hard, thats gentoo in a nutshell, but the distro (once installed) is a really really good desktop01:50
Razor-Xtransgress: do you know the complete list of libraries needed to run Maxima?01:50
runedudebut kde and gnome take a LONG time to compile from source01:50
lotusleafspanglesontoast, google or I have it linked on my window managers page at: http://lotusleaf.nermal.net/linux.html01:51
qweeqpls guys01:51
IIIEarsPhantomfreak - Hm - normally very friendly around here... - What was your question?01:51
poningruanyone know of vid convert tools?01:51
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Razor-Xrunedude: Gentoo is _not_ that hard, a Stage 3 can be slept through, Stage 1's are still pretty easy if you follow the guide01:51
qweeqis ubuntu not compatible with hp01:51
poningruxdiv->mpeg01:51
lotusleafI saw one thread about Project Looking Glass on the Ubuntu forums, was curious if anyone here has tried it.01:51
transgressRazor-X: umm what?  no.01:51
poningruqweeq: yes it is01:51
runedudeyea, i did a stage 101:51
spanglesontoastbookmarked ya01:51
spanglesontoastlol01:51
runedudewait01:51
runedudei mean stage 301:51
qweeqhp zv6000 amd 64 i wanna run live cd01:51
lotusleafspanglesontoast, ;P01:51
qweeqbut it is crashing01:52
runedudeyea, luckily, i had laptop on with the documents loaded :)01:52
Razor-Xponingru: as i've noticed over time, any encoding/transcoding software on Linux is very sparse01:52
othernoobanyone know a mathematica-equivalent for linux (+gpled + for kde)01:52
transgressqweeq: hmm... sure you got the right livecd and everything right?01:52
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spanglesontoastthis is kinda what the site I may be building when ubuntu wants to allow my k6 to work01:52
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Razor-Xdoes anyone else know the libraries required for Maxima?01:52
Razor-Xothernoob: Maxima01:52
poningruhold on razor-x01:52
qweeqtransgress yes01:52
qweeq i got hoary01:52
qweeqamd 6401:52
qweequbuntu-5.04-live-amd6401:53
poningrurazor: did you need the libs required?01:53
transgressqweeq: what keeps crashing?01:53
spanglesontoastlike most people i guess we wonder why the xpde team shot each other?01:53
spanglesontoast:P01:53
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qweeqtransgress it keeps crashing on the splash screen01:53
Razor-Xponingru: yeah01:53
othernoobRazor-X thanks01:53
Razor-Xput it on pastebin, if you can01:53
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transgressqweeq: so you get dropped to a shell then?01:53
lotusleafSo I guess no one's tried Project Looking Glass on Ubuntu. Ok.01:53
Razor-Xothernoob: since you're into math (i'm guessing), i'm going to try to create a math-only live cd01:53
qweeqnope01:53
poningrulibgmp301:54
transgressqweeq: what happens then?01:54
qweeqtransgress it locks up the system mouse becomes unmovable01:54
poningrulibncurses501:54
othernoobRazor-X cool :) yea i like math :)01:54
transgressqweeq: tried hitting ctrl+alt+f1?01:54
spanglesontoasteveryone in a way of ignoring me now01:54
qweeqand nothing really happens for about five munites01:54
qweeqminutes01:54
poningrulibc401:54
anto9usRazor-X: will it do linear programming, which I've never really understood but I know it's useful, huh?01:54
poningruerr libc601:54
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Razor-Xponingru: can you put it in pastebin?01:54
poningrulibreadline401:55
poningruheh I got no time sorry dude01:55
lotusleafI propose: glass-ubuntu :)01:55
Razor-Xanto9us: the goal is to have Maxima, plus a TI Emulator, and the PDRom for the TI-8901:55
poningruyou can use the syn pack mngr to look it up01:55
transgresslotusleaf: you mean gubuntu?01:55
poningrubbl01:55
Razor-Xand, other than that, the absolutely neccessary libraries01:55
Razor-Xand the barebones Window Manager01:55
lotusleaftransgress, for project looking glass01:55
qweeqtransgress any idea01:55
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Razor-Xthe goal is to have a powerful mathematical system with you that can work on as many computers as possible01:56
othernoobRazor-X where would you release your math-livecd ?01:56
Razor-Xothernoob01:56
Razor-Xerr01:56
Razor-Xothernoob: on the net, of course01:56
spanglesontoastfvwm what do you think of it lotusleaf/01:56
spanglesontoast?01:56
othernoobheh. of course.. but where on the net ;)01:56
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Razor-Xwell.... what do you mean by that?01:56
pwolterhi, I just installed gvim and I don't see it under Applications....how can I do to get all then under applications?01:56
othernoobwhere could i get it...01:57
othernoobsite?01:57
othernoobtorrent?01:57
qweeqpls anyone01:57
Razor-Xpwolter: you can start up a terminal, and type in 'gvim'01:57
anto9usRazor-X: so, does that mean it will do linear programming without taxing my brain too much?01:57
lotusleafspanglesontoast, I haven't used that in a long time, fvwm01:57
Razor-Xothernoob: depends if my sysadmin gives my bandwidth to post it on the sight01:57
pwolterI know, but I want to see all the soft I installed under Apps menu....01:57
spanglesontoastyea01:57
spanglesontoastbut when you used it01:57
Razor-Xanto9us: it's just meant to be a mathematical tool, assisting in powerful, higher-level calculations01:58
spanglesontoastdid you like it/hate?01:58
Razor-X*site01:58
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Razor-Xif she doesen't, it's going to be torrent01:58
lotusleafspanglesontoast, it's been so long, I don't recall.01:58
lotusleafspanglesontoast, what do you think of it01:58
qweeqim on windows i run ubuntu launching browser it says but then it crashes. does it mean i have a bad cd01:58
Razor-Xqwweq: md5sum the ISO of the CD01:58
spanglesontoastminging looks like a see through bit of plastic01:58
anto9usRazor-X: a slide rule fits that description ;)01:59
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qweeqRazor-X whats a good client01:59
othernoobRazor-X and your site would be ;)01:59
Lafitte-could anyone do me a favor and tell me the version of network nonitor you have ?01:59
pwolterok, bye gyus, thanks...01:59
Lafitte-gnome-Ubuntu01:59
Razor-Xanto9us: can a slide rule tell me the derivative of a large function, and graph the original function, and it's derivative?01:59
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anto9usRazor-X: no, but it can help ;)02:00
spanglesontoastjust lotusleaf02:00
spanglesontoasteventally building a reviewing site of programs02:00
Razor-Xanto9us: well, this will be able to do it ;)02:00
Razor-Xothernoob: i'll keep that veiled until the time comes02:00
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rg58smahi02:01
Lafitte-could anyone do me a favor and tell me the version of network nonitor you have in gnome?02:01
othernoobRazor-X okay :)02:02
qweeqdoes ubuntu start2.exe work?02:02
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cfh_devAre there some odd flags turned on for bash in Ubuntu?  I have a shell script that won't run on my ubuntu box but does on my debian box.02:02
Razor-Xand I ask again, can anyone tell me the dependancies of maxima and put it on pastebin?02:02
othernoobqweeq: heh, are you trying to use ubuntu in windows ?02:02
qweeqyes02:02
Razor-Xcfh_dev: since you BASH script, go ahead and find out ;)02:02
arcticblueo.002:02
qweeqjust wondering if the cdimage i got is good02:03
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Razor-Xqweeq: why?02:03
lotusleafroflcopter02:03
anto9usRazor-X: I was only teasing with the slide rule remark, no offense meant, I wish you the best for your project mate :)02:03
qweeqjust wondering if the cdimage i got is good02:03
rg58smahi someone use smeg?????02:03
Razor-Xanto9us: I realize that ;)02:03
arcticbluejust download qemu02:03
arcticblueqweeq: just download qemu02:03
dssfilesharer_i download ubuntu today and installed it so far with problems. I am able to see my xp laptotp on the network with ubuntu but xp cant see ubuntu, can someone help me with this problem. dont know much about linux, just started using linux. thanks for any help02:03
othernoobqweeq eh, you have to install ubuntu... if you want to know if the cd is okay, check the md5sum of the iso you downloaded02:03
cfh_devRazor-X, I wish I could bash script.  I have something simple to put together a classpath but it dies.02:03
rg58smahi someone use smeg?????02:03
Jormundganddssfilesharer_: sudo apt-get install samba smbfs, then edit smb.conf to put you on the same workgroup and make a network username by following the guide.02:04
jmobrg58sma: please, repeat again, I don't think anyone heard you02:04
Razor-Xcfh_dev: never too late to learn? ;)02:04
dssfilesharer_u have a good link for samba02:04
rg58smahi someone use smeg?????02:04
Razor-XI'm ok at BASH scripting, am going to start some meaty stuff after this summer02:04
cfh_devRazor-X, true.  I've hit the proverbial wall here though.02:04
rg58smahi iva a problem02:04
Jormundgandrg58sma: #menueditor02:04
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Razor-Xas I said earlier, this summer is going to be cramming 3 years of math in one02:05
cfh_devRazor-X, could you take a quick look at a script and give me your thoughts on it?02:05
Jormundganddssfilesharer_: sudo apt-get install samba smbfs02:05
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othernoobRazor-X since you're interested in the dependencies of maxima, wouldn't it be easier to contact the developers ?02:05
Razor-Xothernoob: well, I browsed the FAQs on the site, and the answer was "To Be Made"02:06
Razor-Xand, i'ld expect it to be easier to run an apt-get and figure out the dependancies02:06
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rg58smahi iva a problem02:06
Razor-Xcfh_dev: ah, sorry, i'm doing some work in the background while chatting02:06
rg58smahi someone use smeg?????02:06
Fackamatorg58sma: use one question mark only, or die02:07
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jmobrg58sma: ffs stop repeating stuff02:07
rg58smaok02:07
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Jormundgandrg58sma: A small hint: It's counterproductive to be odious to a team of people who are VOLUNTEERING to help.02:07
rg58smawhat fuck02:07
Razor-Xjmob: Face Feminization Surgery?02:07
jmobrg58sma: if someone doesn't answer the first time it means there's probably no one around that can help02:07
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JasonFfor fscks sake, Razor-X02:08
Razor-X;)02:08
taomaster69any info how 2 install tar.gz- very new to linux and ubuntu02:08
jmobrg58sma: wait more than 30 seconds to repeat the question02:08
Razor-Xthis is my last answer, until that one guy about GRUB and RAID comes back02:08
Jormundgandtaomaster69: tar zxvf foobar.tar.gz and go from there.02:08
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transgresstaomaster69: let me toss you some reading material02:08
Razor-Xtaomaster69: generally, tar means compilation, tar is an archive, if you're ready to compile, go ahead02:08
transgresshttp://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Teaching/Unix/ taomaster69 read that02:09
Razor-Xseems transgress and Jormundgand took the initiative ;)02:09
taomaster69thanx02:09
Razor-Xah well, i'll check in here for that one guy asking about GRUB on RAID02:09
transgresstaomaster69: read it all.  and then read this http://www.sloppycode.net/nix/02:09
arcticbluehow easy is it to make an ubuntu package out of a source tarball?02:09
transgresstaomaster69: if not then we won't tell you the package you need to compile.02:09
arcticblueit would be nice to be able to compile something and have it still show up in synaptic02:10
Fackamatorg58sma: stop pasing fucking 100 lines of code in priv, OK PLEASE?02:10
cfh_devtaomaster69, to open up that archive, use tar -zxf <filename>02:10
taomaster69ok thanx02:10
rg58smaok02:11
cfh_devtaomaster69, tar -zxvf <filename>  will print the file list on the screen as it goes through the archive02:11
Razor-Xrg58sma: if you want to put a lot of code in a nice, readable form, use pastebin02:11
taomaster69ok thanx for the help02:11
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poningruplease if anyone has any idea of where I can look for help that would be good too02:13
Razor-Xerrr, I need to clean my trackball02:13
poningruwhat can I use to convert one vid format to another02:13
JormundgandI want an optical mouse. I hate ball mice. :(02:14
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anto9usponingru: I think vlc will output to a file in a chosen format02:14
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Razor-XJormundgand: the trackball is really easy to clean02:15
rg58smahi someone use smeg?????02:15
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Razor-Xit's an optical one, but the rollers do gunk up on occasion02:15
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JormundgandOff he goes again. rg58sma: What are you trying to do when Smeg crashes.02:15
Jormundgand?*02:16
rg58smanothinm02:16
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rg58smahttp://pastebin.com/29298302:16
_tonyIs there anyway to use Apt to get java?02:16
rg58smathis is the error02:16
neighborleedoes anyone know if someone is working on getting a automount ( submount./supermount) system working in ubuntu and if so by when???02:16
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tiny_linuxhelo there, so i need libdvdcss2 package somebody have it?02:18
Jormundgandtiny_linux: sudo apt-get install libdvdcss202:19
neighborleetiny_linux, I believe its in universe or multiverse assuming you dont  have it enabled yet ?02:19
_tonyWhere is the ubuntu guide for limewire, and can you apt-get java?02:20
tiny_linuxhello, there are somebody there?02:20
tiny_linux libdvdcss2 package somebody have it?02:20
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tiny_linuxi give it sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2 but don't found it02:21
tiny_linuxmaybe i have an error in my sources.list02:21
tiny_linuxi think02:21
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_tonydid you edit you sources.list then run update02:22
_tony?02:22
tiny_linuxhey _tony read in www.ubuntuguide.org there is02:22
tiny_linuxyes02:23
tiny_linuxand gave me an error02:24
tiny_linuxtoo02:24
tiny_linuxby this is what i'm lookin the package for installing miself02:24
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JormundgandHmm. Is the Flash plugin for Firefox incomplete? I never seem to get any text.02:26
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flipyis there any script to start mldonkey at boot-up?02:28
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dssfilesharer_is there a free antivirus program out for ubuntu like avg. thanks .02:30
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thundrcleezeyes, dss02:30
anto9usflipy: you can set to start when you log in by editing your session properties02:30
flipywell, it's for a server02:30
dssfilesharer_where can i get the free antivirus at02:30
flipyso nobody will be logging02:30
hikaru79I've got a really old monitor, and I can't seem to find correct Horiz/Vert settings anywhere online so that I can get anything higher than 1024x768 resolution =/ So, just in case, does anyone here have an Orchestra Bass Drum model monitor and know it's correct configs?02:31
thundrcleezedssfilesharer_, http://ubuntuguide.org/#installclamav02:32
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Th4tBa5t4rdAVG has a linux version, i think02:32
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w00t3284hi all, i have a question02:33
hikaru79What's up, w00t3284 ?02:33
spanglesontoastwhat other irc clients are there that use gtk?02:33
w00t3284i have a Maxtor DiamondMaxPlus9 200GB SATA HDD, and i want to know if i can run ubuntu on it02:33
w00t3284the reason i'm worried is b/c a few months ago, though knoppix would (kind of) run, nothing else would02:33
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w00t3284so, does anyone know if Ubuntu supports SATA ?02:34
Th4tBa5t4rd^^ curious as well. i have an upgrade planned02:34
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timdoes anyone know if there is are anymore ubuntu offshoots in development and where I can find info on them (like kubuntu) especially one for e17-ubuntu :P02:34
epsasi just ordered some free ubuntu CDs02:35
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w00t3284Th4tBa5t4rd, curious about my question?02:35
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anto9usflipy: see http://www.cpqlinux.com/sysinit.html02:35
hikaru79epsas, it can take QUITE a while02:35
flipyanto9us thanks02:36
Th4tBa5t4rdi could be COMPLETELY and utterly wrong, but SATA should be a driver deal. have you checked the chipset manufacturer for sata linux drivers?02:36
epsashikaru79 - ahhh... too bad - we are hoping to get them before some people leave to go on tour02:36
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w00t3284Th4tBa5t4rd, no i haven't, i'll go do that02:37
w00t3284thanks02:37
w00t3284i doubt they have it though02:37
anto9usw00t3284: I've heard people say they've installed on SATA, like Th4tBa5t4rd says though, may be dependent on chipset02:37
Th4tBa5t4rdwhat's your mobo manufacturer?02:37
w00t3284if you're curious it's a Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 9 200GB HDD02:37
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w00t3284i am hoping to replace my motherboard, as i feel it is the source of many a random crash, however, for now, it is a Chaintech ZNF3-15002:37
w00t3284(i have an Athlon 64 3200+ system)02:38
Th4tBa5t4rdi'm A64 3000+02:38
hikaru79epsas, sorry =( They take a notoriously long time.02:38
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epsaseek02:38
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nernhey hey hey02:38
w00t3284Th4tBa5t4rd sweet02:38
hikaru79They do get here eventually though :) I'm a testament to that.02:38
Th4tBa5t4rdepas, download an iso and burn off a few copies02:38
w00t328464's rock02:38
tiny_linuxi say it again somebody has it? libdvdcss2 package02:38
tiny_linuxplease i need it02:38
Th4tBa5t4rdit's pretty quick. i haven't jumped to pci express yet though02:38
w00t3284tiny_linux i don't have it, if you find a torrent i'll add myself to the swarm to help your download speeds02:39
winstonIs it just me or ubuntu doesn't handle mp3s?02:39
w00t3284woah, it doesn't?02:39
zenroxtiny_linux,  read www.ubuntuguide.org for how to get it02:39
dssfilesharer_does anyone know where i can download free antivirus for ubuntu. thanks02:39
othernoobwinston: it's just you ;)02:39
cfh_devwinston, in what way?  I'm listening to an mp3 now.02:39
Th4tBa5t4rdi do have a question... If I want to dual boot Xp64/Ubuntu on separate hdds, with a shared media drive, should i put it on Ubuntu's hdd and format it FAt32 during the Ubuntu insall?02:39
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cfh_devdssfilesharer_, clamav02:40
dssfilesharer_ok thanks02:40
w00t3284put what, the shared media drive?02:40
Th4tBa5t4rdyeah02:40
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Th4tBa5t4rdit's just going to be a partition though02:40
w00t3284it should go like this: 1. partitino your HDD the way you want it 2. install XP 3. install Ubuntu02:40
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w00t3284make sure that the shared partition is FAT32 though02:41
nernwhy would anyone need av with linux02:41
Th4tBa5t4rdyeah that's what i was thinking w00t02:41
w00t3284yep, according to the forum i attend, that's what the common wisdom is for dual booting *nix and *noes02:41
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Th4tBa5t4rdbut i am running the two OSes on separate hdds02:41
othernoobnern: for example if you have a win pc connected to your linux pc02:41
anto9usnern: for checking windows partitions/shares02:41
w00t3284Th4tBa5t4rd, that doesn't matter02:41
w00t3284just make sure the shared media partition is FAT3202:41
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Th4tBa5t4rdyeah02:42
nernahh i see02:42
nernnice02:42
Th4tBa5t4rdhope so...i'll prolly be back here cussing about nvidia drivers...that's what got me last time02:42
othernoobnern: besides that, there are virii for linux ;)02:42
galactic2razor-x im back02:42
galactic2if you'r still there02:42
w00t3284really? nvidia is supposedly way ahead of the game when compared to ati02:42
w00t3284drivers-wise, at least (for *nix)02:43
tiny_linuxi found it, thank you02:43
tiny_linuxby the way, somebody know where i find a tutorial about how to set up my own mail server under ubuntu02:43
WXi just installed DBD::mysql, and now I can't see any of my databases02:43
Th4tBa5t4rdyeah, but i am WAY behind the game as far as linux goes02:43
tiny_linuxhelo02:43
galactic2guess you arent around razorx?02:43
WXi can't login as anything except root w/o a password02:43
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WXany ideas?02:43
w00t3284Th4tBa5t4rd lol02:43
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Th4tBa5t4rdpasswords are good for you02:43
winstoncfh_dev: i dont know in which way, no progs will play mp3s02:43
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tiny_linuxi have winston's problem02:44
tiny_linuxboth02:44
winstontiny_linux: you do?02:44
Th4tBa5t4rdoh well. time to blow out some partions and reformat... yay02:44
zenroxtiny_linux, and winston  read www.ubuntuguide.org02:44
whittiHey, I was wondering whether any of you knew of a tool to extract files from a .bin file (as in that used by some burning apps as a CD image)?02:44
galactic2grr where did razorx go?02:45
crimsunwhitti: cdrdao->mount or bchunk->mount02:45
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whitticrimsun: Thanks02:46
rancoruswhen my gdm starts and i log in, It gets stuck at a ubuntu loading image. How do i fix this?02:46
nernwhat did you do02:46
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anto9ustiny_linux: this looks interesting for postfix mail server setup02:48
cfh_devwinston, I use xmms in kde02:48
anto9ustiny_linux: http://www.idealog.us/2004/10/helpful_guide_t.html02:48
tiny_linuxboth02:48
tiny_linuxthink so02:48
winstonzenrox: are you reffering to gnump3d?? cant find package02:49
w00t3284okay guys02:49
w00t3284i can't find any Linux drivers for my HDD02:50
winstoncfh_dev im in gnome and i have xmms, it just crashes when i look an mp3 or a pls02:50
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cumiijhelp me02:50
w00t3284so how do i find out if the latest ubuntu release supports my hard drive?02:50
hikaru79What's wrong, cumii?02:50
anto9usw00t3284: you don't find them for the HDD but for the controller02:50
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cumiihow to use dcc chat on xchat?02:50
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cumiiim request dcc with bot02:50
w00t3284anto9us so you mean the "sil 3144" or whatever? (i dont know the model number, i'm at the office not at home)02:50
cumiibut the dcc chat show on channel02:50
hikaru79You want to set up a dcc SERVER?02:51
hikaru79Ooh02:51
hikaru79You want to access a dcc server?02:51
cumiinot on new tab02:51
naliothhowdy, ya'll02:51
w00t3284anto9us how do i find the number for my SATA controller if i don't have my computer infront of me?02:51
cumiiyup02:51
Yoda_Sabreguys is there a way to ghost windows on linux like with mac02:51
hikaru79cumii, in the tab at the top, go to "IRC" and check all the last three entries02:51
cfh_devwinston, do you have mpg123 installed?02:51
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naliothw00t3284: how would it NOT support your HD?02:51
anto9usw00t3284: hmm.. do you know the motherboard?02:51
hikaru79The important one is "Auto Open Dialog Windows"02:51
hikaru79Then it will work :)02:51
w00t3284anto9us yes, it's a Chaintech ZNF3-15002:52
Yoda_Sabreanyone know of the way?02:52
w00t3284nalioth easily; i tried a few months ago and i couldn't install Linux; knoppix barely (kind of) worked, but it was very flaky02:52
naliothw00t3284: simple solution: ubuntu live cd02:52
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cumiiok02:52
cumiiwait a second i will try dcc chat02:52
jacahi02:52
w00t3284nalioth, but i want to install ubuntu to my hDD02:52
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naliothw00t3284: if the live cd works, so should the install02:52
Yoda_Sabrecan anyone answer my question02:53
anto9usw00t3284: you should look at the chaintech website to see what sata contoller it lists then check if there's support in the kernel or if there's a module, doing a linux search for the chip in google should be revealing02:53
naliothw00t3284: are we concerned because the HD is old? or super <psssss> new?02:53
dssfilesharer_can someone give me a link for downloading a free antivirus for ubuntu everything i do  isnt good02:53
w00t3284nalioth, new, it's a SATA drive...02:54
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anto9usdssfilesharer_: clamav is in the repositories02:54
w00t3284anto9us, will do02:54
cumiithxxxxxxxxxxxxx02:54
cumiiits work02:54
dssfilesharer_i am new to this. what is repositories02:54
Yoda_Sabrehow you ghost a currently installed windows os in linux02:54
nerndssfilesharer: open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install clamav02:54
w00t3284k, the controller is a Sli3114 SATA RAID controller02:54
othernoobnern. do you think that will work ?02:54
naliothw00t3284: i'd try the live cd, see if you can write to the HD02:54
dssfilesharer_ok02:55
othernoobnern i doubt he modified his sources.list yet02:55
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[Bond] hey all02:55
nalioth<eg> i know how i'd "ghost" windoze.. .. .. .. muuwahahaha02:55
nernothernoob: oooh maybe yer right... god they should just enable universe and multiverse by default02:55
w00t3284nalioth, k, how would i write, using OpenOffice or somesuch?02:55
Yoda_Sabrei know you can do it with mac02:55
anto9usdssfilesharer_: in synaptic, it lists files from servers (repositories) which you can add/unhide by following instructions here http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto02:55
Yoda_Sabrebut how you do it with linux02:55
w00t3284nalioth, and this would involve re-partiotioning the entire beast to FAT32, wouldn't it02:55
naliothw00t3284: a simple "touch whatever" once you mount it should suffice02:56
[Bond] I just installed ubuntu "whoary," and when I try to apt-get install something, it just hangs at "99% [Working] "  any ideas?02:56
othernoobnern. yea i was wondering about that too, doesn't make sense to me02:56
naliothw00t3284: if it is NTFS, then a repartion is in order02:56
naliothw00t3284: you can use..02:56
naliothmsg w00t3284 partition magic <ahem> from the torrents <cough>02:56
naliothshit02:56
[Bond] heh02:57
nalioth<cough>02:57
nalioth<ahem>02:57
spanglesontoastwhat's so good about xine?02:57
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w00t3284nalioth; don't worry, there are good (legally) free alternatives to Partition Magic02:57
knuckswhy is my cd ripping speed SO SLOW02:57
nernit makes little vaginas into gaping holes02:57
nernTHATS whats so good about xine02:57
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naliothw00t3284: bit torrent (the program) is legal <ahem> dang cough02:57
rancoruswhen my gdm starts and i log in, It gets stuck at a ubuntu loading image. How do i fix this?02:57
crimsunthat's pretty off-topic, nern.02:57
w00t3284nalioth, and i was going to reformat anyway (b/c i want to dual boot XP and ubuntu)02:57
spanglesontoastrite..........02:57
nerncrimsum: sorry ;)02:58
spanglesontoastis it better than mplayer?02:58
othernoobknucks: have you enabled dma ?02:58
knuckshow02:58
nerntotem-xine is my pick as best movie player02:58
w00t3284nalioth, lol, it's fine: Ranish Partition Manager: http://www.ranish.com/02:58
naliothw00t3284: yes i recommend at least 3gb for linux (ie ext3, reiser, whatever) and make as much space avail in fat32 as you can (i never install  a windoze users machine on ntfs)02:58
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anto9usspanglesontoast: mileage varies02:58
spanglesontoastwhat's totem got in it?02:58
w00t3284or i could even use www.ultimatebootcd.com their UBCD02:58
othernoobknucks find out where your cdrom is (which partition02:58
w00t3284okay, so how would my partitions look like?02:58
knucksum i think its /dev/cdrom02:59
Yoda_Sabrewoot iot sucks02:59
anto9usspanglesontoast: totem uses xine and gstreamer02:59
naliothw00t3284: if keeping data is not a concern, you can use the parted that comes on the ubuntu disk02:59
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w00t3284i've backed up already02:59
knucksbut how do i check02:59
othernoobknucks then in a terminal type udo  hdparm  -d1  /dev/hdX  where X is your partition02:59
w00t3284does this partition table look good?02:59
spanglesontoastcan It play real player stuff?02:59
naliothw00t3284: then the ubuntu installer has several options02:59
Yoda_Sabrethere is a good progream to partition witht hat loses no data02:59
naliothw00t3284: if you're sending date, /msg me02:59
naliothdata, even02:59
w00t32848GB ext3 - UBUNTU; 8GB FAT32 - XP; 512MB - Linux Swap; The Rest - FAT3202:59
Yoda_Sabreaslong as there is space03:00
w00t3284na03:00
w00t3284just look above03:00
nernYoda_Sabre: i use gparted for partitioning03:00
anto9usspanglesontoast: if the codecs are there, it can see them and it's not one of the latest rp format files/streams, yes03:00
Yoda_Sabreuse partition magic03:00
knucksit seems that ripping is real uick03:00
Yoda_Sabreif your fearfully of losing files03:00
knucksits just that the encodings slow03:00
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naliothw00t3284: you know that you can symlink your linux partions onto the fat32 partition, right?03:01
capiIs there a package for GTK+2.4/2.6 I can't seem to find one?03:01
Yoda_Sabreyour burner slow knucks?03:01
naliothw00t3284: only the kernel needs to live in a linux fs03:01
knucksno03:01
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winstoncfh_dev: nope, not installed03:01
w00t3284nalioth, wtf does symlink mean03:01
nernmy burner wont burn at higher than 24x03:01
w00t3284i've only ever (successfully) installed Mandrake03:01
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w00t3284if that gives you any idea of how n00bish i am03:01
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crimsuncapi: installed by default03:02
cfh_devwinston, you're going to need mpg123 or something comparable to play mp3s03:02
spanglesontoastdoes totem have an advanced prefs?03:02
capiw00t3284 symlink means symbolic link ln -s03:02
crimsuncapi: kinda difficult to run gnome without it03:02
Yoda_Sabreonly mandrake?03:02
nernmandrake is terrible03:02
crimsuncapi: (2.6.4)03:02
anto9usw00t3284: symlink is a bit like a windows shortcut only a proper one ;)03:02
othernoobknucks sudo nano /etc/fstab03:02
Yoda_Sabremandrake is wierd03:02
capicrimsun, I'm sure it would be by default if I didn't so a server. Do you know the package name?03:02
crimsunlibgtk2.0-003:02
Yoda_Sabreatleast it asks you to format a second hd unlink redhat703:02
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othernoobknucks there you'll see the mountpoint of your cdrom drive03:03
spanglesontoastdoes anyone know if lifeview is supported in linux as a tv card?03:03
knuckswell ive got 3 cdrom drives03:03
Yoda_Sabrehow would i ghost a windows os from linux03:03
winstoncfh_dev thats not in the pkg list in synaptic03:03
anto9usspanglesontoast: see http://howtos.linux.com/howtos/BTTV/cards.shtml03:04
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[Bond] any ideas on why apt would hang on me?03:04
Yoda_Sabredoesn't anyone got an idea how to ghost it?03:05
[Bond] if I ctrl-c on its "99% [working] " and then try the command again, it just hangs at "50% [Working] "03:05
spanglesontoastyea it's on there03:05
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spanglesontoastwhat happens now?03:05
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Yoda_Sabrebond could be power03:05
cfh_devwinston, you can also use lame03:05
anto9usYoda_Sabre: you mean make a file image of the partition?03:05
Yoda_Sabrei had that when installing xp before03:06
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cfh_devwinston, how did you install xmms?  What release of Ubuntu are you using?03:06
Yoda_Sabreno anto use xp through linux without loading the whole thing03:06
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spanglesontoastdoes that mean the driver is in the kernel?03:06
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benjamin23anyone here recommend me upgrading to breezy?03:06
[Bond] Yoda_Sabre: power?  as in the power supply?03:06
crimsunbenjamin23: NO.03:06
[Bond] hrm03:06
benjamin23or it completely unstable?03:06
crimsunbenjamin23: (read the topic again)03:06
winstoncfh_dev 5.0403:07
Yoda_Sabreas in socket03:07
benjamin23ok03:07
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Yoda_Sabresomething was acting screwy with my powersupply on that plug03:07
cfh_devwinston, did you install xmms through apt?03:07
winstoncfh_dev xmms was in the audio/video category in synaptic03:07
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benjamin23crimsun, you know when 5.10 colony2 cd will be out?03:07
Yoda_Sabrewitched it to a different outlet and all is fin03:07
[Bond] hm03:08
Yoda_Sabrefine*03:08
anto9usYoda_Sabre: do you mean run windows in a virtual machine inside linux?03:08
x_orAnyone here know how to install Subversion in Apache2 from apt-get?  I cannot find the repository for libapache2-svn03:08
[Bond] I had the old server running on this outlet, but I'll try anything at this point03:08
crimsunbenjamin23: no, but I presume a couple weeks.03:08
crimsunx_or: it's in universe.03:08
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x_orcrimsun:  Hmm, I enabled universe and multiverse, and updated, but I don't see it...03:09
crimsunx_or: I see it.03:09
Yoda_Sabrei found out the outlet cuz i took my pc to class and i had no problems03:09
benjamin23thanks03:09
x_orHmm, I think I might have enabled security ubuntu, doh!03:09
nernbreezy is prolly not a good idea right now03:09
cfh_devwinston, do you have /usr/lib/xmms/Input/libmpg123.so?03:10
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Yoda_Sabreyes anto03:10
Yoda_Sabrewine does nto work for my programs though03:10
x_orThanks crimsun.03:10
CleotisCan someone tell me how to upgrade warty to hoary without updating the kernel version?03:10
dssfilesharer_is there a antivirus that self installs itself for ubuntu. i can not get it to install at all. trying to do clamav but says there is no package03:11
Yoda_Sabreim kina stuck with aohell and noe of the programs i tried could use that03:11
cesar_hi all , there is a program to edit the fstab ? , in a graphical way ?03:11
crimsunCleotis: put your linux metapackage(s) on hold03:11
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spanglesontoastanything better than gaim?03:11
nernno03:12
anto9usdssfilesharer_: did you look the link I gave you about adding repositories?03:12
nerngaim is the best of the best03:12
Yoda_Sabrewhat version is hoary?03:12
spanglesontoast5.04?03:12
winstoncfh_dev yes!! i have that one03:12
dssfilesharer_which link03:12
dssfilesharer_been trying everything03:12
nernyeh 5.0403:12
Cleotiscrumsun: not sure what you mean03:12
Yoda_Sabrelook up03:13
cfh_devwinston, that's the plugin you need to play mp3s in xmms03:13
anto9usdssfilesharer_: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto03:13
dssfilesharer_cool. thanks alot03:13
crimsunCleotis: what cpu?03:13
spanglesontoastthat was a random guess03:13
cesar_winston , if you whant , you can use mplayer , it another media player03:13
crimsunCleotis: and, did you install any optimised kernel?03:13
cesar_mplayer can play video and mp3 , it just a little tricky to make it work03:13
Cleotiscrimsun: warty generic i386 32bit on amd6403:13
crimsunCleotis: dpkg -l linux-386 |grep ^ii03:14
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Yoda_Sabreanto know any way to do what i want without wine?03:14
Cleotiscrimsun: ii  linux-386      2.6.8.1-13     Complete Linux kernel on 386.03:14
spanglesontoastwhat you trying to do yoda?03:15
anto9usYoda_Sabre: check qemu03:15
Yoda_Sabrerun xp from linux03:15
spanglesontoastoh dear03:15
Yoda_Sabrewine is a failure at running my progs03:15
spanglesontoastwhat you want to run03:15
Yoda_Sabrethey don't start03:15
spanglesontoastyea03:16
spanglesontoastwhat are you trying to run03:16
Yoda_Sabrethe latest one does that03:16
spanglesontoastwhat apps?03:16
Yoda_Sabreisp03:16
anto9usYoda_Sabre: a little tip, if you type a person's full nick then they're less likeley to miss questions from you :)03:16
Yoda_Sabreand some other progs03:16
spanglesontoastinternet service provider?????03:16
Yoda_Sabreaohell03:16
Yoda_Sabreim going to pay for a better one when i got the money03:17
monchyyou poor soul03:17
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nernwow03:17
nernyer already paying if you use aol03:17
spanglesontoastwell I have cedega but that's mainly for games......03:17
nerndamn03:17
othernoobnern dont state the obvious ;)03:17
Yoda_Sabreno im not03:17
Yoda_Sabresomeone else is03:17
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spanglesontoastoh is he using aol03:18
Yoda_Sabrethere is multiple accounts you kow03:18
spanglesontoasthahahahahahaha03:18
spanglesontoasthahahahahahha03:18
anto9usYoda_Sabre: there's an AOL dialer specifically for linux out there somewhere03:18
Pop_pa_FrEaKcan't seem to find gstreamer0.8-lame on the repositories03:18
Yoda_Sabreit does not work03:18
spanglesontoastis it clockword/03:18
spanglesontoast*work03:18
Yoda_Sabrei tried it03:18
nerni think i just threw up in my mouth a little bit03:18
crimsunCleotis: put that on hold03:18
naliothPop_pa_FrEaK: have u enabled the repositories?03:18
nernwhen the word aol was uttered03:19
pfpPop_pa_FrEaK: backports03:19
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winstoncfh_dev cesar_ am trying to reinstall xmms with appropriate pluggins03:19
anto9usYoda_Sabre: I think you'll be very lucky getting it to work through any kind of emulation03:19
naliothPop_pa_FrEaK: better to build from source, than get backports03:19
Yoda_Sabrei call it aohell for good reason03:19
spanglesontoastoh we called it much worse03:19
novaflareyoda_sabre why not just use a normal dialup connection for aol? Or do you need aols add ons (or want them)?03:19
Pop_pa_FrEaKdoh!! thought I forgot something thanx guys03:19
Yoda_Sabrethere should be one somewere03:19
anto9usYoda_Sabre: see http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialAOL.html03:19
nerni pay 30 dollars a month for cable03:20
Yoda_Sabreim not using by chioce it is either this or no internet03:20
nernisnt that about how much aol is?03:20
monchywhat about satellite internet?03:20
Yoda_Sabrefastnet is worse then aohell which is funny03:20
alex_hmm, can anyone help? every time i try to switch into administrator mode in kubuntu it doesn't work, it just hangs. also, whenever i try to do anything sudo in konsole, i get the message: "unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname". what should i do? please help!03:20
spanglesontoastI guess your lucky moving to linux03:20
Cleotiscrimsun: Not sure how to do that, any pointers for putting it on hold?03:21
Yoda_Sabreaol is 26 if you got unlimited03:21
Jormundgandalex_: #kubuntu03:21
alex_ahh03:21
spanglesontoastif you were on windows you would be in the arms of their messed up browser03:21
alex_woops03:21
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Pop_pa_FrEaKstill can't find it03:21
will__hello03:21
anto9usalex_: are you completely sure it's hung and there's not a dialog hidden somewhere asking for a password?03:21
spanglesontoast30 for an 8mb yay03:21
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will__can i ask a question here?03:21
Pop_pa_FrEaKdid ubuntu drop mp3 support ?03:21
alex_yup03:21
Yoda_Sabrescrew IE03:21
cesar_Yoda_Sabre: i will preffer use internet in the house of a friend, that use AOL :P03:21
JormundgandPop_pa_FrEaK: It had MP3 support to start with?03:21
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Yoda_Sabrei use firefox as my defualt browser03:22
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Jormundgandwill__: No, questions are banned.03:22
anto9uswill__: you just did but don't worry, you're not on a quota ;)03:22
nernall you need to do to get mp3 suppot is download a couple of packages though03:22
pfpalex_: add your hostname to /etc/hosts, on the line that begins with 127.0.0.103:22
Pop_pa_FrEaKno Jormundgand it doesn't by default you need to add lame codec03:22
Yoda_Sabreanto i tried using that it did not work worth a damn03:22
alex_okay03:22
spanglesontoastI'm wondering is there a version of a dialer for aol for windows03:22
winstoncfh_dev cesar_ am ok still wont work, xmms freezes when i click play03:22
Pop_pa_FrEaKbut for some reason I can't install it from the repositories03:22
JormundgandPop_pa_FrEaK: I know that. But you made it sound like it had it by default once and now doesn't.03:22
alex_hmm it says i don't have enough privileges...03:22
Yoda_Sabreaol has a dialer on windows03:23
othernoobspanglesontoast: you think you'll find an aol user here? ;)03:23
will__im a TOTAL linux noob - i just downloaded the newest version of firefox (it was a tar.gz) i extracted it, but now i dont know what to do03:23
pfpalex_: oh yes, you need sudo or root access for that ;/03:23
alex_ya...03:23
spanglesontoastno03:23
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alex_:(03:23
cesar_winston: hmmm , if you are in a mood to try , check this page . . .03:23
othernoobwill__ is there a readme ?03:23
Pop_pa_FrEaKno I was just wondering if they had as alot of distros are dropping mp3 for licensing reasons03:23
will__no03:23
Yoda_Sabredoes not load the whole program just enough to connect and use a browser like firefox03:23
Jormundgandwill__: You don't need that. Get it from the repos.03:23
spanglesontoastjust wondering so my mate can use it without the browser03:23
nernwill_do you have ubuntu installed?03:23
cesar_winston: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/index.html03:23
will__haha yes03:23
anto9usYoda_Sabre: then I've no ideas for you other than discouraging you from wasting time with trying to use emulation. I've not heard of that working... best option is an old machine acting as a proxy for you03:23
cesar_winston: or just put mplayer in uncle google03:23
nernwill_ because it should be installed with ubuntu03:23
will__yeah i know but its 1.0.203:24
will__and the most current version is 1.0.403:24
Jormundgandwill__: They backport the bugfixes.03:24
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will__?backport?03:24
nernwill_ EXACTLY03:24
Jormundgandwill__: Change the versionSub setting in about:config to 1.0.4 and cheat your way into the extensions section.03:24
cesar_winston: i you try mplayer , just check carefully the installing tutorials , good luck !03:24
will__hmm :/03:24
will__is that the only way?03:25
Yoda_Sabrethey have done it for macs there might be one for linux out there03:25
knucksok i cant get mp3 encoder working03:25
winstoncesar_ i used mplayer in a knoppix system i had, will try it03:25
nernwill_ the first thing to do now that you are using linux is try to get out of the windows program management mindset, when using ubuntu or another debian based distro you almost never have to download programs from a website03:25
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knucksit tells me to install the gstreamer0.8-lame but tells me libc6 depends on some pacakge i cannot find03:25
spanglesontoasthow do I get rid of recent stuff in places for good03:25
will__: o03:25
spanglesontoast*recent documents03:25
will__i had no idea >_<03:25
anto9usYoda_Sabre: aah, I'm with you now, you've had it working as far as it's meant to. It just gives a connection.03:25
nernyou can also get 1.0.4 going by either using the ubuntu backports or adding a sid repo and installing it from there03:26
cesar_will__: you can use the synaptic upgrade manager . . . i update my firefox in that way03:26
Yoda_Sabrei got no connection with it period03:26
anto9usYoda_Sabre: emulation of the AOL software set to connect through tcp/ip is now a viable option03:26
anto9usYoda_Sabre: firefox worked?03:27
icemancrap ... tried installing sshserver on my wifes pc ... on a ubuntu install03:27
Yoda_Sabrexp is getting annoying  but the programs i got are good ones just they are xp03:27
Yoda_Sabrefirefox is great03:27
cesar_will__ or just click in the upgrade manager of ubuntu , they let you dl the newest firefox version03:27
icemannow i cannot start gnome or kde ..03:27
Yoda_Sabrepeng does not work with my aol program for some reason03:28
knucksanyone?03:28
shido6what can I use in ubuntu to partition a disk?03:28
anto9usYoda_Sabre: did it connect to the internet for you?03:28
shido6the xp partition is active and Im scared if I blow it away Im going to loose grub03:28
Yoda_Sabreno03:28
shido6and making a bootdisk doesnt seem to work03:28
spanglesontoastis there a way to get rid of the recent documents bit on places?03:28
nerncesar_  no it wont upgrade him to 1.0.4 because ubuntu rather than changing the version number just backports the security patches to 1.0.2, so if he wants to get 1.0.4 he will need to either change his repos or do what Jormundgand said03:28
shido6too big to fit on a floppy03:28
othernoobshido6 qtparted03:29
shido6unless you know how to make a boto disk .iso03:29
Yoda_Sabreshido just doing mess with the xp partition and your fine03:29
naliothshido6: qtparted or parted (command line)03:29
anto9usYoda_Sabre: you said it connected and you used firefox didn't you?03:29
Yoda_Sabrei got a dualboot on here03:29
naliothshido6: if data loss is no problem, use fdisk03:29
Yoda_Sabre20gig linux 60gig xp03:29
cesar_nern: thanks ! , i doesnt know that :P03:29
shido6windows is 112 GB , I initially installed ubuntu as a 2ndary os03:29
Yoda_Sabreno i use firefox on xp03:29
shido6now that windows is screwed because of some virus03:29
shido6my partition is useless03:29
shido6so i want to use it for ubuntu as well03:30
Yoda_Sabreaol is the isp i got03:30
shido6for storage03:30
knucksanyone ? why cant i rip mp3s03:30
nerncesar_ :)03:30
Yoda_Sabreit does not work with peng03:30
shido6yeah I should use fdisk, do it old school, thanks nalioth03:30
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Yoda_Sabreshido wait03:30
shido6how do I make a bootdisk first, tho03:30
nernnooooo03:30
shido6:)03:30
nernyeah03:30
Yoda_Sabreuse partition magic03:30
nernwait03:30
Yoda_Sabrepartition magic does not kill your files03:31
spanglesontoastis there a way to get rid of the recent documents bit on places?03:31
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shido6partition magic ? boot from the cd, delete the partition? it says its an active parittion and I have to make some other partition active03:31
winstoncesar_ cfh_dev tried reinstalling xmms with pluggins, still freezes when i try to load a file-- will try mplayer03:31
Yoda_Sabrebut shindo did you try the online scans03:31
hawathello all03:31
walidhi03:31
walidi am just install ubuntu03:31
knucksHELP anyone03:31
will__How can I take all my AAC's off my iPod, and copy them onto my Ubuntu dis?03:31
will__k03:31
nernif you want to completely redo yer partitions and start from scratch i like to use the MEPIS livecd which includes qtparted which is a pretty nice parition program, then you can reboot and install windows and then ubuntu03:31
Yoda_Sabreshindo partition magic moves files to the new partition of the one they use03:32
walidso can some one tell me how to update it03:32
walid?03:32
Razor-Xshido6: delete the main partition, create two new ones, one with just plain free space in it, and the other with NTFS on it03:32
walidcan some one hel me pleas?03:32
winstoncesar_ cfh_dev am starting to think its my sound card03:32
Yoda_Sabreyou might not need to erase windows at all03:32
Razor-Xif you want to double boot Ubuntu and Windows XP, that is03:32
walidthat is simpel03:32
Yoda_Sabrecheck it using panda or trendmirco03:32
cesar_winston: you dont hear any sound ?03:32
hawatquestion: does kernel recognize xeon processor?03:33
Yoda_Sabrerazor partition magic will move his windows files03:33
cesar_winston: because i have the samen problem , i dont have sound in ubuntu , i event have tried to install any mediaplayer , LOL03:33
Yoda_Sabrei used it before03:33
walidi wana update the seysteem can some one help me pleas03:33
capiIs there a way I can include a file when ./configuring an item? For example instead of `./configre --lots --of --things=/to/enter' `./configre <file>' ? Or any other way to save all the typing for long configs03:33
Pop_pa_FrEaKanyone knw of a tutorial for adding musepack encoding ?03:33
cesar_winston: i remember mplayer because i used it in Fedora03:33
winstoncesar_ i do hear sound on ogg, i guess your right03:34
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will__How can I copy all my AAC's from my iPod onto my Ubuntu harddisk?03:34
winstoncesar I get a short noise everytime i open and clos a sound prog03:34
Cleotiscrimsun: I figured it out, thank you for your help03:34
Jormundgandwill__: As I told you, Ubuntu will treat the iPod like a memory stick.03:34
Razor-Xcapi: jusw write a script with ./configure --lots --of --things=/to/enter'03:35
winstoncesar_ does mplayer work for you in ubuntu?03:35
Razor-X`./configre <file>'03:35
will__hes but the AAC part03:35
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Razor-Xand then run the script itself03:35
JormundgandIt'll recognise the files.03:35
cesar_winston: same as i, but my sound card (a cmedia chip) is not suported by ubuntu at all :P03:35
JormundgandBut look at the restricted formats wiki page to see if you need a package so Ubuntu understands the AAC files as music.03:35
cesar_winston: nop , it worked great in Fedora , but Fedora is  Redhat like distribution03:35
nernits not hard to get yer multimedia fully functional in ubuntu03:36
cesar_nern: hmm , do you think there is a way to solve my sound problem ?03:37
winstoncesar_ do you get any sound ? like beeps and chirps login sound etc?03:37
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cesar_nern: im just waiting to buy another sound card , i have tried everything03:37
will__can i get a link for restricted formats in the wiki?03:38
will__am i asking that right?03:38
cesar_winston: not a single wistle ;) , but that help me to work , i dont loose time chosing mp303:38
bratschecesar from #mono?03:38
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Pop_pa_FrEaKanyone know how to install musepack libs ?03:38
gopher3234mp3 playback for xmms?03:38
nerncesar_: if yer sound card was supported by fedora then linux can support it, you just may have to go through the trouble of compiling yer own kernel03:38
winstoncesar_ lol I guess we dont hav the same prob then, cause i get system sounds and all03:38
blueyedwill__: just use the wiki search function.03:39
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winstongopher3234 yeah you have a prob playing mp3s??03:39
cesar_bratsche: nop , im in a newly linux user , im on my 3rd month03:39
will__wheres that :-[03:39
gopher3234yes03:39
winstongopher3234 same here03:39
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bratschecesar_: Ah, cool.  Well it's great to have you all the same. :)03:39
winstongopher3234 what prog u use?03:40
anto9usnern: compilation shouldn't be necesary under ubuntu, everything is in modules03:40
gopher3234Xmms?03:40
cesar_nern: like . . . get my kernel , and then select my packages ??03:40
gopher3234winston, XMMS03:40
anto9uscesar_: what is the chip of your cmedia?03:40
nernanto9us: its just weird like if it was supported in fedora shouldnt ubuntu support it too, i mean its all the same linux03:40
blueyedwill__: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FrontPage/searchwiki03:41
Razor-Xdamned greek alphabet... can't stand it!03:41
blueyedwill__: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats03:41
winstongopher3234 same here, Mine freezes when i try to play mp3s or .pls03:41
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cesar_anto9us: CMI976103:41
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gopher3234winston, yes. same problem03:41
Razor-Xanto9us: there are definite advantages to compilation over modules03:41
cesar_anto9us: its a sound card integrated to the motherboard03:41
gopher3234ive been asking my linux peoples, so then one referred me to "Get the fuck on IRC"03:41
gopher3234so i'm like : kk03:41
nerncesar_: you dont want to do it.... there isnt even a kernel-image in the ubuntu repos let alone another kernel-source, so if you wanted to do it you would have to get the source elsewhere and it would just be a big mess.03:42
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nernyeah03:42
will__blueyed: thanks ;)03:42
nerni just got on here for the first time last night gopher323403:42
metalsandWhat's the fastest booting Linux live CD?03:42
nernsimiliar situation here03:42
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nernDSL03:42
nernDamn Small Linux has got to be the fastest booting linux live cd03:43
Razor-Xi'm gonna remaster it myself, soon enough03:43
metalsandHrmm, does it support video playback?03:43
rizlahi03:43
blueyedhi rizla  ;)03:43
metalsandRemaster DSL, Razor-X?03:43
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mark_hi03:43
Razor-Xmetalsand: there's a Live CD that boots up staright into MPlayer and can play a file in a directory03:43
rizlawhat package i have to install to view .rm files with totem?03:43
Razor-Xmetalsand: yeahp03:43
naliothmetalsand: nern, thats a good ???, since most of the live cds run the knoppix model startup03:44
anto9usRazor-X: yes, swings and roundabouts though I suppose :)03:44
metalsandRazor-X: No way!03:44
cesar_nern: i check in the web, and the problems seems to be the ALSA , cmedia send my to the ALSA webpage, and ALSA dont support my soundcard , ho ho ho ho.03:44
Razor-Xmetalsand: yes way ;)03:44
metalsandIncoming querey, Razor-X03:44
winstongopher3234 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3573403:44
Razor-Xmetalsand: mmmkay03:44
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nernnalioth: im not sure i know what you mean by thats a good ???03:44
gopher3234<303:45
rizlaRazor-X: i'd like to view .rm files with totem. what pack do i need?03:45
nerni always have like the MEPIS livecd even though it uses kde03:45
naliothnern, if all live cds boot using the knoppix boot sequencer, shouldnt they all be about the same time loading?03:45
phxguyCan anybody help me with a problem im having running Acrobat reader03:45
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shido6ok03:45
shido6112 GB gone03:45
Razor-Xrizla: not sure, not a totem user myself03:45
shido6I dont want to reboot03:45
pfprizla: win32codecs i thnk03:45
shido6how do I add a ntfs partition in ubuntu03:45
Razor-XI use VLC, it can handle just about any format03:45
rizlaok, thanx03:45
naliothphxguy: use xpdf or kpdf03:45
rizlacan you see .rm files with vlc?03:46
venezolanoALGUIEN HABLA ESPAOL??????????????????03:46
nernnalioth, yeah i suppose but then DSL doesnt have to load gnome or kde, it just has to load fluxbox03:46
cesar_shido6: look for the ntfs project03:46
blueyedKJHKJ ZAUIH KJA SLKUJ, venezolano ? ;)03:46
shido6hrmm03:46
Razor-Xvenezolano: I don't mean to disrespect, but all Spanish speakers tend to do that when tehy enter a channel03:46
naliothnern: so you shave a few seconds off the X progs loading03:46
cesar_shido6: they make a way to see the ntfs file system, but you cannot  modify the files03:46
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Razor-Xvenezolano: please teach the others who do that some manners, and no, no hablamos espanol03:47
venezolanoOK THANKS03:47
rizlaRazor-X: can you see .rm files with vlc?03:47
anto9uscesar_: there's a bugzilla entry for your cmedia problem https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=799703:47
naliothshido6: why would you want to desecrate your ubuntu by messing with ntfs?03:47
Razor-Xrizla: I'm pretty sure, not hundred-percent on that03:47
pfpsome repo even has a "real" realplayer but i havent tried it03:47
nernnalioth: i suppose, i was just trying to answer the guys question, he wanted to know what the fastest one was, not the best. I personally dont like DSL, becuase it never detects my ethernet card.03:47
cesar_Venezolano: hola ! , hay un canal llamado ubuntu-es creo , donde hablan espaol , suerte !03:47
Razor-Xrizla: VLC is kickass, it can play almost any format out of the box03:47
codyI installed unrar and I can't unrar a .rar, it just fails for every file03:47
naliothrizla: you can see older .rm files anywhwere, as long as you have the w32codecs03:47
cesar_anto9us: Great ! , thanks a lot :D03:47
venezolanoGRACIAS03:47
rizlai can't..03:47
blueyedcody: try the rar package.03:48
nernreal player for linux isnt supposed to near as horrific as the windows version03:48
pfpcody: 'rar x foo.rar' ?03:48
Razor-Xcesar_: I thought this was an all-English channel?03:48
spanglesontoastanyone know amsn where I convert is once I have install imagemagick03:48
Pop_pa_FrEaKrizla do this in console --->sudo apt-get install realplayer03:48
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rizlai already have realplayer03:48
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cesar_nailoth: probably shido have the same situation that me , i have 20 gigs of mp3 in a ntfs hdd system03:48
rizlabut i haven't w32codecs..03:48
codydoesnt work pfp, i installed unrar, not rar.. do I need to install the rar program as well?03:49
rizlaperhaps i have to add some repository?03:49
Razor-Xspanglesontoast: locate imagemagick03:49
naliothnern: i don't use any of them, i run a iBook, just pointing out the boot sequence is pretty much the same on all03:49
cesar_Razor-X: yup , thats why i send him to the spanish channel ;)03:49
Razor-Xmetalsand: you mean, streamed data?03:49
anto9usnight all03:49
Razor-Xcesar_: ahh, good job ;)03:49
naliothrizla: search ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ for 'restricted formats"03:49
Razor-XI've memorized the words for "We don't speak Spanish" ;)03:49
nernnalioth: i love you.......03:49
winstongopher3234 it hasnt done anything for me.03:49
rizlaok, thanx a lot nalioth03:49
spanglesontoastdidn't work in terminal03:50
gopher3234http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats03:50
Razor-Xnern: use VLC, it can play almost every restricted format03:50
gopher3234winston, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats    I'm reading around03:50
naliothcesar_: ?no hablamos espanol acqu? NO!03:50
gopher3234VLC is a piece of shit.03:50
gopher3234i used it on FC303:50
gopher3234haated it.03:50
Razor-Xgopher3234: how can you hate VLC?!03:50
dssfilesharer_i have tried everything for antivirus. but i cant get nothing to work. is there one that will install itself instead of all this command line stuff. thanks03:50
codyVLC is awesome03:50
gopher3234but if you can't get anything else working, get it03:50
cesar_i can show you some ways to do that, i live in Mexico and spanish is my natural lenguage :P03:50
gopher3234XMMS>VLC so hard03:50
Razor-Xgopher3234: psshhh, no other Media Player comes _close_03:50
nernRazor-x: im not having the problem...i believe that it is rizla03:50
naliothdssfilesharer_: why do you need a antivirus? linux has no known virii03:50
Razor-Xcan you do a network stream of your desktop from XMMS?03:51
Razor-XI think _not_!03:51
codyI use BMP for mp3's03:51
codyVLC for videos03:51
dssfilesharer_cool so i dont need , lol. all this trouble for nothing. thanks03:51
naliothcesar_: were you addressing me with your last statement?03:51
codyBMP is very wicked03:51
Razor-XI use VLC for Audio and Video ;)03:51
Razor-Xwhat's BMP?03:51
Razor-XBitMaP? ;)03:51
nerndssfilesharer: yeah you dont have to worry about spyware or virii in linux03:51
codyBMP is Beep Media Player03:51
naliothdssfilesharer_: clamav exists so that (if we are courteus) we can scan our files b4 sending them to mom on her windoze box03:52
nernBMP is pretty much a winamp clone... its better than XMMS though03:52
cesar_nalioth: nop , i was adressing Razor-X , about ways to say "go to the spanish channel , we dont speak spanish here"03:52
codyhttp://www.sosdg.org/~larne/w/BMP_Homepage03:52
Razor-Xcody: can it play everything out-of-the-box, like VLC?03:52
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naliothcesar_: ah, i usually send folks to their respective language chans03:52
rizlaand.. does somebody know how to stop "free the fish"?03:52
Razor-Xwe should add the language links to the topic03:53
naliothcesar_: i drive a taxi in Houston, Tx, and speak a little bit spanish <lol>03:53
codyRazor-X: I don't know, I havent tried it with videos yet.03:53
Razor-Xcody: can it play audio out-of-the-box?03:53
codyIt can play audio, yes.03:53
codyNo plugins requited, like xmms03:53
cccBMP plays audio only.03:53
naliothRazor-X: beep media player is a fork of xmms03:53
dssfilesharer_ok. is there a popup blocker for linux and spyware software or isnt that needed either. thanks03:53
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Razor-Xcody: mmm, I see03:53
xuser_Okay.03:54
Razor-XI don't know... hmmm....03:54
naliothdssfilesharer_: i recommend a good "hosts" file and firefox03:54
roxvilleget the unofficial ubuntu add-on cd. it has most of the extras you need03:54
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Razor-Xshould I give up VLC for audio....03:54
spanglesontoastwhat is that a dumb question asking if linux get spyware03:54
codyYes, You should03:54
codyBMP is much better, And much nicer.03:54
cesar_nailoth: lol , thats a work where you can learn a lot of things right ? ;)03:54
naliothRazor-X: vlc is the only thing that plays aacplus (www.tuner2.com)03:54
dssfilesharer_what do u mean by a good host. i am new to linux03:54
cccxmms = ugly winamp-clone. bmp = nicer looking winamp-clone :)03:54
Razor-Xcody: ok then, I think i'll try it on Windows, right now03:54
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naliothcesar_: si senor03:54
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Razor-Xccc: but Winamp needs codecs03:55
`psychohi ppls03:55
dssfilesharer_wher edo you get unofficial ubunu ad-on cd03:55
`psychohaving issues with torsmo03:55
`psychocan somebody help pls?03:55
Razor-Xcesar_: I learn my bits of Spanish from San Jose, California ;)03:55
cody:)03:55
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Razor-Xone of the unjotted HS grad requirements is the ability to curse in at least three languages, unincluding your native tongue03:55
spanglesontoasthow do I install .bin03:55
Razor-Xof course, I can already do about 6 ;)03:55
cesar_nailoth Razos-X : lol , i work in a museum in Mexico , we have a lot of turist people , so i can work my english :D03:55
naliothspanglesontoast: ./filename.bin03:56
winstoncesar_ i found it03:56
winstonnot your prob, but in case your wondering03:56
cccRazor-X: the best audio player if you have a big collection and want implemented audioscrobbler is amaroK. actually, it has to be the best audio player ever for any platform. :)03:56
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ianhello ppl..03:56
naliothcesar_: esta 70% latino en houston, tenga muchos clientes latino03:56
`psychotersmo-issues-help?03:56
`psycho:D03:56
codyamarok? never heard of it.03:56
ianhow do i install a *.deb ?03:56
winstoncesar_ switching output in the preferences of xmms does the trick03:56
spanglesontoastsudo: ./amsn-0.94-3-linux-installer.bin: command not found03:56
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rizlait works!03:57
Razor-Xian: sudo dpkg -i xxx.deb03:57
rizlai've installe w32codecs and it works!03:57
rizlathanx to everybody03:57
rizlagoodnight03:57
Razor-Xccc: can it play audio without codecs?03:57
naliothspanglesontoast: chmod +x filename.bin03:57
ccccody: http://amarok.kde.org/03:57
`psychoa little help please? :)03:57
naliothspanglesontoast: that makes it executable, then run the ./filename.bin03:57
Razor-XI know Kubuntu comes with AmaroX03:57
Razor-X*Amarok03:58
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naliothyou don't need kubuntu for amarok03:58
cccRazor-X: no, the codecs are not built in, but i prefer that.03:58
cesar_winston: great ! , i found a treat about my sound card . . .03:58
Razor-Xnalioth: I know that03:58
Razor-Xccc: not for me then ;)03:58
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spanglesontoastbest to install as sudo?03:58
cccit comes with a bunch of codecs though03:59
codyDamnit all, I still can't figure out this stupid RAR Thing03:59
[Spooky] what firewall do you guys recomend ?03:59
ccci think03:59
ianwhen i have installed a .deb . error occured. dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of kiax:03:59
ian kiax depends on libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.4); however:03:59
ian  Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed.03:59
ianhow do i resolve this problem?03:59
nalioth[Spooky] : the builtin one03:59
Razor-Xian: why use .deb, why not use apt-get?03:59
naliothspanglesontoast: if you trust the source, or it is a system proggy (or both)03:59
spanglesontoastah ok03:59
[Spooky] nalioth: witch is called ?03:59
ianRazor-X: ok.. how would i do that? im really new in linux..03:59
nalioth[Spooky] : iptables, i believe04:00
[Spooky] nalioth: ok how do i use it ?04:00
j1m33i really enjoy m0n0wall, but that would require an additional box. http://www.m0n0.ch04:00
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nalioth[Spooky] : go to newsforge.com and read down a little bit, there was an article on mangling yer linux fw204:00
nalioth[Spooky] : managing your linux firewall04:00
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Razor-Xj1m33: for that, I prefer Smoothwall04:01
ianrazor-x: how do i apt get kiax (iax voip softphone).04:01
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spanglesontoastsmoothwall so much easier04:01
spanglesontoastin one lovely config file04:01
spanglesontoastcalled rules04:01
geetergodWhats something i should download thats cool?...04:02
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saber_porn04:02
geetergodI have the CD burner prgram, limewire, xmms, xine...04:02
geetergodno not porn haha04:02
dssfilesharer_anyone have a link to where i can download the unbuntu add-on cd. its not available on ubuntu anymore04:02
Razor-Xian: sudo apt-get install kiax04:02
naliothgeetergod: how do you want to d/l?04:03
spanglesontoasthey last time I looked there was a huge moth on my wall04:03
cesar_dssfilesharer_ you have tried the bittorrent ?04:03
Razor-Xgeetergod: VLC ;)04:03
spanglesontoastnow it's dead without me touching it04:03
geetergodjust through sudo apt-get... thats fun (im new to linux)04:03
spanglesontoastweird04:03
geetergodVLC?04:03
dssfilesharer_last time i mess with bitorrent i got a nasty letter04:03
Razor-Xspanglesontoast: maybe because bugs die faster than you do? ;)04:03
Razor-Xgeetergod: the best Media Player ever ;)04:04
ianrazor-x: can i pm you with the error msg i get?04:04
cesar_dssfilesharer_ ???? nasty letter ?04:04
geetergodya?04:04
geetergodworth getting?04:04
Razor-Xdssfilesharer_: haha!04:04
NicPthey send those out too dssfilesharer_04:04
Razor-Xbe more careful next time04:04
Razor-Xgeetergod: can play almost any format out-of-the-box04:04
dssfilesharer_yes my isp sent letter saying i was stealing movies and that my service will cut off04:04
NicPive started using torrents, hopefully i wont get one too04:04
geetergodsweet04:04
geetergodsudo apt-get install vls?04:04
naliothgeetergod: ah, i thought you wanted to do some serious data throughput damage to someone04:04
Razor-Xmy ISP doesen't give a crap04:04
Razor-Xgeetergod: yeahp04:04
geetergodkool, i'll give it a shot04:05
naliothgeetergod: start up synaptic and peruse teh "games" section04:05
Razor-XI can get gigs of illegal stuff, and they don't really care04:05
NicPdssfilesharer_,  do u think they actually have  record of which torrents u used?04:05
cccoh, here's a great short description of amaroK: http://www.kde.org.uk/apps/amarok/04:05
ianRazor-X: can you help me with my problem. after i apt get..there is an error..can i pm it to u?04:05
NicPi dont like amarok04:05
geetergodok nalioth04:05
psychonateum04:05
dssfilesharer_yes cause they told what movie and what time and they were on the money04:05
Razor-Xian: put it on Pastebin04:05
spanglesontoastlol ya04:05
naliothian: if its someinhg about a gpg key, its harmless04:05
spanglesontoastI think I may go to sleep04:05
cesar_dssfilesharer_ come to Mexico ! , we have so many problems about stealing propety , that internet is the last of them :D04:05
psychonateI cannot read the man page for 'rename' because it apparently contains some symbols that I cannot display.04:05
ianRazor-X: what is the url ?04:06
Razor-Xdssfilesharer_: advice: change ISPs04:06
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dssfilesharer_so i like to use mirc as much as possible never been busted on mirc in 5 years i use it04:06
dssfilesharer_only one fast isp here04:06
Razor-Xdssfilesharer_: it's NOT mIRC04:06
psychonateI would like to fix this, as it is difficult to use man pages that are not entirely legible.04:06
naliothian: pastebin.com04:06
Razor-XI don't caps often, but I get very emotional04:06
Razor-Xit's NOT NOT NOT called mIRC04:06
Razor-Xthe protocol is IRC, mIRC is a n00bs client04:06
Razor-Xremember that04:06
dssfilesharer_oik04:06
dssfilesharer_ok04:06
psychonateDoes anyone have an idea why I cannot display these characters, or does anyone want me to copy/paste a sample?04:07
Th4tBa5t4rdWelp, installation complete... doing updates then...frackin video driver04:07
Razor-Xpsychonate: what IRC client are you using?04:07
psychonateno, no04:07
psychonatea man page entry04:07
psychonateI cannot read all of it apparently04:07
ianRazor-X; http://pastebin.com/29302804:07
Razor-Xohhh, you can't see the special characters in the man entry?04:07
geetergodok i installed vls, now where is it?04:07
psychonateyes04:07
cesar_hmmm , one question anyone . . . i dl a alsa patch . . . (alsa-bk-2005-03-24.path.gz) how i can make it work ?04:07
psychonatewell, I'm assuming they are special characters04:07
Razor-Xthen, try and install the extra fonts, psychonate04:07
iannalioth: thanks for the url..04:07
psychonate...I don't really know for sure obviously lol04:08
Razor-Xgeetergod: run vlc from command line04:08
naliothpsychonate: yes, install every font pkg you can see04:08
spanglesontoastmanwhore IRC04:08
spanglesontoastmirc04:08
spanglesontoast:D04:08
psychonateholy moses04:08
psychonateI'll give it a go I guess04:08
geetergodno configuration file found04:08
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Razor-Xian: that's because you dpkg -i before you apt-get'd04:09
geetergodoh its vlc?04:09
Razor-Xspanglesontoast: that's too mild04:09
geetergodwonder what vls was i just downloaded? :)04:09
ianRazor-X: ic.. how do i resolve this problem? :(04:09
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spanglesontoastwhat too much or just too less04:09
spanglesontoast?04:09
naliothgeetergod: a flyswatter will help, when it rears its ugly head04:10
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geetergodah crap haha04:10
geetergodthats not what i wanted to here04:10
Razor-Xian: dpkg -r kiax04:10
geetergodhear*04:10
Razor-Xand then run "apt-get install kiax" again04:10
Razor-Xspanglesontoast: too less04:11
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Razor-Xgeetergod: me too ;)04:11
psychonatehmmm04:11
Razor-Xhikaru79: opening at 3-4!04:11
psychonatewhat is the easiest way to install all packages beginning with "xfonts?"04:11
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Razor-Xpsychonate: read the GUI04:11
Daveyis there some GUI for setting my firewall up?04:11
zenwhenfirestarter04:12
ianRazor-X: package kiax not available.. :(04:12
psychonatehow about:04:12
spanglesontoasthmmmm04:12
psychonate"sudo apt-get install xfonts*" ?04:12
Razor-Xian: is that output from apt-get or dpkg?04:12
hikaru79Aack, Ubuntu killed my Windows XP's boot thing :( When installing, it asked if I wanted it to write to MBR, so I said yes, thinking it would be Okay. Now when I try to boot into windows (The grub entry DOES show up at least), it says that there was a problem with the boot path. I know for sure that the windows partition wasn't damaged or anything, because I can mount it from Linux and stuff, so all the data is still there. How can I get it04:12
hikaru79to boot XP again? :(04:12
psychonateuh ohs, conflict04:12
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hikaru79Razor-X, 16-16! :D04:12
hikaru79Do you play? ^_^04:12
ianrazor-x: output from apt-get..04:12
Daveyzenwhen: was that to me?04:12
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Razor-Xhikaru79: yeahp, I play!04:12
Razor-Xand i'll help you too04:12
hikaru79Razor-X, wow! ^_^ How strong are you?04:12
Razor-Xweak!!! ;)04:13
hikaru79=/ Aw04:13
Razor-Xbut, i'm learning04:13
hikaru79How weak is weak?04:13
Razor-Xif you colud help me learn though, i'll help you with linux04:13
ianRazor-X: its the output of apt-get04:13
raDeonfootball is football04:13
Razor-Xmmmm, can't remember the kyu offhand04:13
raDeonunless it's...football04:13
hikaru79I'm around 10k by KGS standards, and 7k by IGS standards04:13
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Razor-Xhikaru79: you _must_ play teaching games with me!!!04:13
hikaru79^_^ I gladly will!04:13
Razor-Xthanks!04:13
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hikaru79:D04:13
Razor-Xok, to your problem04:13
hikaru79Will you be on in a few hours?04:14
Razor-Xwhat's the /dev address?04:14
hikaru79/dev/hda404:14
Razor-Xhikaru79: possible04:14
Razor-X*possibly04:14
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psychonateIs there any way I can exclude a single package from the previoulsy mentioned command?04:14
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spanglesontoastalrite going off now04:15
spanglesontoastnite nite04:15
whnphi there, does anyone know of a way to bulk import pictures into OO.o?04:15
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ianRazor-X: still there? :()04:16
DaveyXorg is using up 100% of my CPU for no damn reason, any ideas?04:16
Razor-Xian: yeah04:16
Razor-Xian: did I forget you?04:16
Razor-Xsorry, my go-obsesedness got to me04:16
ianRazor-X: yes..its ok. :) its an error of apt-get.. :(04:17
Razor-Xfirst apt-get install libqt3c102-mt then dpkg -i04:17
ianRazor-X: how can i install kiax in my ubuntu? :)04:17
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nerni want a program that will let me actually install windows and run it inside windows, like virtualpc on the mac. I dont like wine and it never works right, and there are only 2 applications that I want to be able to use from windows so i dont mind using something like virtual pc04:19
linuxpoetVMWare04:19
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knucksanyone here have their mp3 encoder (gstreamer-lame) working?04:19
knucksplease i dont know how to get it working..help04:20
linuxpoetOr qemu nern04:20
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nernokay thanks04:20
rg58smahow is the command to reconf x104:20
rg58smax1104:20
knucksanyone?\04:20
knucksPLEASE04:20
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ProtoformXAh, pardon me.. I was recently directed to Ubuntu as a possibility for an OS to use..  I am sort of looking for one to correct my current problem, that this computer doesn't seem to have proper drivers for my current OS.  I was wondering if anyone knew how abundant Abuntu's driver base happens to be..?04:21
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linuxpoetUbuntu's drivers are just as wide as any linux04:22
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rg58smahi04:22
psychonateknucks, grip+lame is good for mp3 encoding, though I prefer Ogg Vorbis myself04:22
ProtoformXHm.04:23
knucksi cant install gstreamer0.8-lame04:23
knuckssays it depends on libc6 WHICH I HAVE04:23
knucksbut it says i dont04:23
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linuxpoetknucks enable your universe repository04:23
linuxpoetthen do apt-get update04:23
linuxpoetapt-get upgrade04:23
psychonatealso,04:23
psychonateyou probably just want lame for encoding04:23
ianRazor-X: after a apt-get finish i issue command dpkg ... there is an error: http://pastebin.com/29303504:24
psychonateI think gstreamer-lame is just a plugin for gstreamer04:24
knucksill try..04:24
knucksi cant encode mp3..04:24
knuckseverything is installed except gstreamer04:24
psychonatehmm, I'm getting a 404: Authorization Required04:24
psychonatewhen trying to fetch some packages04:24
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ProtoformXWell, at least on this box, it was a bit annoying searching for the drivers I needed..  Both for sound, and graphics.. So what I perhaps should have asked is if Abuntu actually has the drivers easily accessable and usable..04:25
hikaru79Protoform, sound is usually working out-of-the-box. What video card do you have?04:25
hikaru79If it's Nvidia or ATI, it will also be very easy.04:25
psychonatewhy is it so difficult to install all packages beginning with "xfonts," excluding one in just one command?04:26
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psychonate:(04:26
ProtoformXIt's an Nvidia G-Force 3 I believe.. It's integrated into the mobo...04:26
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bratscheThe nvidia drivers will work with that.04:26
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kraker#lost.no04:26
rabid_snailDoes hoary have support for Linksys 802.11b PCI cards?04:26
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manulitoany ubuntu developer have 1-2 minutes to spare, im a intressted in helping out. need some pointers04:27
psychonateI don't want to sit in synaptic clicking boxes for a half hour04:27
ProtoformXMm..  Sound working out of the box, would be nice.  I got a Soundblaster Live sound card for this box in hopes that it would give me sound, and while all the drivers have been "installed" as near as I can tell, I still can't get sound.  Would it be probable that Ubuntu could support that card with some drivers it has pre-loaded..?04:28
ianhello can somebody help me with my problem.. http://pastebin.com/29303504:28
ianim new in linux.04:28
ian:(04:28
Th4tBa5t4rdspeaking of nVidia drivers.... can I apt-get the nVidias or just the generic nv drivers?04:29
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psychonatehmm,04:30
psychonateis there a reason you are typing "nVidia" instead of "Nvidia"04:30
linuxpoetBecause the "V" is really important04:30
kassetranVidia is how the company references their products?04:30
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psychonatereally04:30
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Th4tBa5t4rdwell. i just wanted to make sure the difference was made04:31
psychonatedid not know that04:31
dssfilesharer_any links available ubuntu add-on cd since ubuntu isnt allowing the download anymore04:31
psychonateactually, on their website they usually write "NVIDIA"04:31
psychonatebut I see a lot of "nVidia"on google04:32
Th4tBa5t4rdusually, but on their promo junk it's nVidia, that's the trademark anyways04:32
manulitoare there nay ubuntu-dev channel around ?04:32
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psychonateah, I see04:32
manulitodev-ubuntu04:32
psychonatejust wondering ;)04:32
kassetranV is their driver, nVidia are typically products, etc.04:32
psychonatefair enough04:32
naliothian how many repositorys do you have enabled?04:32
ProtoformXEr... So, anyone happen to know about that usability of Soundblaster Live cards with Ubuntu..?04:33
linuxpoetThey should work without issue04:33
toranhey, does anyone know how to get planeshift running on ubuntu?04:33
kassetraif you look at the logo on their site as well, the have nVIDIA ... heh.04:33
linuxpoetAlthgouh I don't know about the external USB ones and such04:33
kassetra*they04:33
ProtoformXMm, indeed.04:33
WhiteRabbitplaneshift doesn't properly support linux imho04:33
ProtoformXOkay, thanks very much.04:33
iannalioth: i think its not a problem with my apt-get..because i has finish install libqt3c102-mt. the problem is with my dpkg.04:33
iannalioth: here is the error after i dpkg. http://pastebin.com/29303504:34
ian:(04:34
psychonateman, I love aterm04:34
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toranpsychonate: me too04:34
toranI started using it when I changed to fluxbox04:34
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iannalioth: what do you think went wrong? :(04:35
naliothian, so you cannot get kiax from the repositories?04:35
psychonate'aterm -tr +sb -sh 70 -fg gray -g 100x25+300+250' for my twinview04:35
psychonatetoran, I used to use Eterm04:35
WhiteRabbitaterm*font: -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-120-75-75-c-60-iso10646-104:35
psychonatenice font, is that?04:36
jasmuz/quit04:36
toranI like the artwiz fonts04:36
galactic2razor-x you there?04:36
psychonateright now, I'm just using the default04:36
iannalioth: yes.. i get the libqt3c102-mt from the repo..but not kiax04:36
iannalioth: kiax can not be found..the the repo.04:36
psychonatenot great, but it looks much better than the default Eterm font at least04:36
psychonateI typically hate messing with fonts04:36
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naliothian have you tried to build kiax from source?04:37
psychonateOK04:37
iannalioth: nope.. im really new in linux. but i need voip that support iax..which is in kiax. how do i do that?04:37
psychonateI installed all the xfonts* packages, and some things in the 'rename' man page still aren't being displayed correctly04:37
psychonateDo I need to restart X first?04:38
dssfilesharer_does anyone know of a ftp that has ubunto add-on cd04:38
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psychonateDoes the website not have it?04:38
iannalioth: do i need to do that? :(04:38
dssfilesharer_went to ubunto and they dont have it anymore04:39
naliothian try this: "sudo apt-get build-dep kiax" and then "sudo apt-get source -b kiax"04:39
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cesar_hey , good night to all , good luck !.04:39
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nernim back~!04:40
psychonateI'm getting frustrated here04:40
psychonateI still can't read the example in my man page04:40
psychonateer, huh,04:40
iannaliot: Unable to find a source package for kiax04:41
ian :( how about dpkg the kiax deb file with a force option? it there any option for that?04:41
psychonatemust be something with aterm and Eterm since it looks alright in a console04:41
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arcticbluehow can i get transcode to install?04:41
linuxpoetpsychonate: why not just run gnome-terminal04:41
naliothian: the deb you are trying to install was build for generic debian04:41
iannalioth: ic so its not possible to installed it in ubuntu?04:42
naliothian: it will not install here, because the devs change the name of everhting to _ubjntu_04:42
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naliothian: yes it is possible04:42
naliothanything is possible04:43
psychonatenow wtf04:43
psychonateit only works fine on TTY104:43
qweeqhi04:43
psychonateWhat is that lol?04:43
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psychonatewell, actually, even on tty1 it doesn't display ' correctly04:43
qweeqi was to load gnome panels in ubuntu live cd but it hangs afterwards i passed the option live noapc nolapic acpi=off vga=77104:44
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qweeqcan someone help04:44
qweeqits live cd amd 6404:44
psychonateIt's a sad state of affairs when a man can't even look at his man page04:44
nernHey its qweeq again04:44
arcticbluei am trying to install dvdrip in hoary, but it says that it needs transcode then it complains that transcode cannot be installed.  how do i get transcode on here?04:44
J35U5anyone know how to open a .wps file in OO.o?04:45
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naliotharcticblue: i had to compile it by hand04:45
arcticbluenalioth:  awesome04:45
qweeqhi nern i was able to get gnome panels up but it crashes i used the options boot: live noapic nolapic acpi=off vga=771 pls help04:45
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naliotharcticblue: what hdwre are u running?04:47
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arcticbluenalioth: it's just a laptop.  TMO lost my computer...04:48
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qweeqnern still here04:48
nernqweeq: have you thought about just installing it on the hard drive instead of using a livecd?04:48
qweeqwell i dunno if my stuff will work or not04:49
nernqweeq: i donno what to say man i have no clue04:49
nernHey there bob204:51
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bob2hi04:51
makavelyhello04:51
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makavelycan somebody help me with a problem i have with ubuntu ?04:53
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bob2best to just ask04:53
manulitoAnyone in here know what chan the ubuntu-developers hang?04:53
bob2#ubuntu-devel, but it's for actual development discussion04:54
naliotharcticblue: well if its x86, then you might be able to find a repo, but i recommend apt-building from source04:54
bob2not for asking for help04:54
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arcticbluenalioth: ah, yes, it's x86.  is the source package available on apt?04:54
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makavelyiam haveing this problem when i tried to install anything04:54
TycheHello04:54
bob2makavely: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood04:55
TycheI am installing something and it is asking for the " directory of C header files that match your running kernel?" Where would that be?04:55
makavelyi think the problem is in my repositories04:55
incanybody know how to minimize rdesktop when you are connected to a windows box?04:55
naliotharcticblue: it should be04:56
[Spooky] Anyone that can portscan me ?04:56
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Tyche[Spooky]  I can try, nmap?04:56
bob2Tyche: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)04:56
[Spooky] Tyche: sure...04:56
[Spooky] Tyche: you have my ip ?04:57
makavelyi try to install j2se runtime environment04:58
Tyche[Spooky]  No04:58
makavelyand i get this message it is in spanish04:58
bob2makavely: you don't seem to have done what I asked yet04:58
makavely sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.504:58
makavelyPassword:04:58
makavelyLeyendo lista de paquetes... Hecho04:58
makavelyCreando rbol de dependencias... Hecho04:58
makavelyW: No se puede leer la lista de paquetes fuente http://backports.ubuntuforums.org hoary-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/backports.ubuntuforums.org_backports_dists_hoary-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No existe el fichero o el directorio)04:58
makavelyW: No se puede leer la lista de paquetes fuente http://backports.ubuntuforums.org hoary-backports/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/backports.ubuntuforums.org_backports_dists_hoary-backports_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No existe el fichero o el directorio)04:58
makavelyW: No se puede leer la lista de paquetes fuente http://backports.ubuntuforums.org hoary-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/backports.ubuntuforums.org_backports_dists_hoary-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No existe el fichero o el directorio)04:58
makavelyW: No se puede leer la lista de paquetes fuente http://backports.ubuntuforums.org hoary-backports/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/backports.ubuntuforums.org_backports_dists_hoary-backports_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No existe el fichero o el directorio)04:58
makavelyW: Tal vez quiera ejecutar 'apt-get update' para corregir estos problemas04:58
makavelyE: No se pudo encontrar el paquete sun-j2re1.504:58
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makavelyok bob204:58
bob2makavely: so04:59
Tyche[Spooky]  How do I get it?04:59
bob2makavely: a) don't ignore people, b) don't paste things in here, c) backports are screwing you over04:59
makavelydidnt read what you told me04:59
makavelysorry04:59
Quest-MasterGod-- K3b rocks so much.04:59
[Spooky] Tyche: i have sent it in a /notice to you04:59
nernhow hot are prescotts really?04:59
nernIM using k3b myself as we speak04:59
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nern;)04:59
Tyche[Spooky]  Sorry, I'm new to this Xchat...where do I look for that?04:59
makavelybob2 : i go to #flood and put my source.list there ?04:59
[Spooky] Tyche: w805:00
Tyche[Spooky]  NM, see it05:00
bob2makavely: yes05:00
[Spooky] hehe ok05:00
[Spooky] bob2: hey man! :)05:00
bob2hi05:00
makavelybob2 : i paste my source.list in the flood channel ?05:01
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bob2makavely: yes...05:02
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naliothbob2: i'm glad you're here, all the ops was gone a while, and the trolls came out of the woodwork05:02
nernhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681911617805:03
nernwhat about that cpu05:03
makavelythere bob2 i put my source.list in flood05:04
Pop_pa_FrEaKhmmm just installed kde and for some reason konqueror keeps crashing when i try to delete a file05:04
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naliothPop_pa_FrEaK: welcome to the club...konqueror doesnt like running in gnome for some reason05:04
TycheI am installing something and it is asking for the " directory of C header files that match your running kernel?" Where would that be?05:04
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spiderwormhi all is it possible to set it up so that anything done via sudo needs a root password that is unique from the user password?05:04
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bob2Tyche: I already answered you05:07
bob2Tyche: once you've installed that, look in /usr/src/05:07
bob2makavely: your sources.list is broken05:07
Pop_pa_FrEaKnalioth, so best to download kubuntu then ?05:07
makavelybob2 : how do i fix it ?05:07
dbernar1_hi, bob2, and others...05:07
bob2makavely: comment out all ther nerim.net ones, and the backports ones05:07
dbernar1_:) the notorious ubuntuguide.org syndrome...05:08
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dbernar1_hey, Ill gtell that guy that it is braking a lot of systems, to reconsider, and put warnings about that.05:08
ElBaronowhy the fuck does gnome keep launching metacity even though I have sawfish configured as the x-window-manager?05:08
dbernar1_breaking05:08
dbernar1_yeah, why the fuck, elbarono?05:08
ElBaronopiece of shite05:08
dbernar1_thats al I see, Im sorry, I cant answer that...05:09
makavelybob2 : i erase the marillat and backports links ?05:09
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conformistINredsure, or put a # ion front05:10
naliothPop_pa_FrEaK: i never have a prob with konqueror when i'm in kubuntu05:10
naliothPop_pa_FrEaK: ymmv05:10
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Pop_pa_FrEaKok will have to download kubuntu then05:10
Pop_pa_FrEaKcan't live without amaok and it looks like crap in gnome05:10
Pop_pa_FrEaKamarok05:11
CJ7Anyone got a good guide/url on how to set up printing to a samba shared network printer from ubuntu?05:11
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lunarknightHello, I get an error when initializing sound for SDL.    open /dev/sequencer: No such file or directory05:11
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conformistINredCJ7: hey, there is a samba setting up how to on the wiki at ubuntulinux.org/wiki I just found out... http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba .05:14
makavelybob2 : can you explain me how to fix the source.list ? i didnt understand the last thing you told me05:14
conformistINred) makavely: bob2 : i erase the marillat and backports links ?conformistINred: sure, or put a # ion front05:14
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zacharyanyone know of an easy photo editor05:14
xterra77anyone know why the ubuntu guide is using backports? Should I use the reugular repo setup by default?05:14
zacharybesides gimp05:14
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conformistINredthat means, you put a # sign in the front of the line they contain, or erase them.05:14
CJ7conformistINred, I've already looked at that - doesn't say a lot about how to set up the printer etc...05:15
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conformistINredzachary: gthumb is what I use for creating web album, be more specific if you want more  info...also, your synaptic has a search function05:15
prediusxterra77, some packages are not included in the ubuntu repos.05:15
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makavely) conformistINerd : you have the same problem that i have ?05:16
prediusbe careful, the backports.ubuntuforums is not working, if you're goint yo use it, try one of the mirrors.05:16
conformistINredCJ7: really? ok, cool, there seem to be links, did you follow those?05:16
conformistINredno, I have solved dozens like that tho:)05:16
CJ7conformistINred, looking again now - it may be what i need...not sure...05:16
CJ7I'm more after how to set up the cups side of it than the samba side though...05:16
conformistINredthe only reason this is my nick, tho, is that there was a REBELinBLUE at one point earlier...05:17
makavelyoh05:17
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conformistINredmakavely, for reasons like this, I suggest using http://pastebin.com instead of #flood, cause I was not there, and now you have to paste again...if you use pastebin, you can post tio pastebin, then keep the URL you get, and pass it out as many times as needed.05:18
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conformistINredAlso, keep it in the channel, cause, were you not speaking with bob2 in the channel I would not have heard your converstation, please continue to solve you rproblem in public.05:18
xterra77predius, I see--what major or popular packages will I not get with the "official" repo with universe and multiuniverse turned on?05:18
zacharythanks conformist05:19
xterra77predius, and not using mer and backports05:19
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conformistINredxterra77: they are using it cause the guy who wrote it knows what he is doing, and other ppl that read it screw up their sources.list more often than not.. dont use unless you hear there is a package that you need, and cant get in ubuntu repos...05:19
prediusyou won't get multimedia, mainly.05:20
prediusor most binary-only packages05:20
conformistINredmainly everything will work:-p05:20
prediussince restricted is only binary video drivers, i think05:20
conformistINredpredius: you know this for a fact? cause I didnt think so, but I donty have a fact...05:20
prediuswell, I'm not a MoTU or maintain backports, still, it's supposed to be like this.05:21
conformistINredpredius: to learn some more: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/document_view .05:21
conformistINredthat was not correct, for those who read it:)05:21
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conformistINredthat paeg tells the true story about that(exclueding the backports) backports are a separate story, visit the forums for more info...05:22
prediusi know what backports are.05:22
conformistINredyou showed you dont, already:)05:22
prediusthe backports.ubuntuforums doesn't *just* give backports05:22
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prediussince you can get the sun-jdk05:23
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xterra77conformistINred, ok got it. thanks05:23
prediusand other packages05:23
conformistINredxterra77: kk, welcome.05:23
makavelyhere it is the page05:23
makavelyhttp://pastebin.com/29306705:23
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conformistINredoh, you mean, that in the sense of backports, the ubuntu forums are not just backports...yeah, I agree:)05:24
prediusthen?05:24
prediusthat was y whole point05:24
predius*my05:24
conformistINredwell, read that page to learn more about ubuntu reposirotires:-p05:24
prediusbackports.ubuntuforums not only has backports, but05:24
conformistINredmakavely, thanks, please give us a few moments to read....this I say this time, next time you know ppl need time to read.05:25
prediusnever mind05:25
conformistINredone of the things I complained about is that you dont seem to know what multiverse is,...iit is a collection of binaries that are not open source.05:25
makavelyok , thanks for the help05:25
conformistINredkk, welcome.05:25
conformistINredwehre you from?05:25
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conformistINredmakavely:05:26
makavelyArgentina05:26
conformistINredok, give me a sec.05:26
predius#05:26
predius#05:26
predius##Backports05:26
predius#05:26
prediusdeb http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports/ hoary-backports main universe05:26
predius#05:26
predius this wont work05:26
prediusthey closed the server05:26
prediusthe rep, at least.05:26
naliothpredius: backports are trouble, anyway05:26
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conformistINredyeah, you are right, predius, taht is true.05:27
conformistINredhey nalioth...05:27
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prediusgeez, it's all against Predius today.05:27
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prediusI started by answering makavely's question on why is ubuntuguide using the backports rep, and now people are telling me that backports are trouble?05:28
rj`://05:28
xterra77I agree I will have to reinstall my ubuntu because of stupid backports...then again I dont know what I'm doing yet05:28
conformistINredpredius: who is against you?05:28
rj`i use breezy -- shrug.05:28
conformistINredxterra77: what is wrong, tho?05:29
xterra77is brezzy pretty stable?05:29
conformistINredno, not at all, /topic for more detail05:29
nosAnyone able to help me out with an ALSA issue?05:29
rj`not really05:29
rj`:/05:29
xterra77conformistINred, for some reason I have to force quit using bluefish sometimes...never before using backports though :)05:29
bob2conformistINred: the conversation was entirely in here05:30
bob2conformistINred: he/she pasted the file to #flood, which is entirely approriate, and what I asked for05:30
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bob2predius: they're not very well done and can cause problems05:30
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bob2it's best to avoid them if at all possible05:30
bob2the marillat ones are worse, they make things like mplayer uninstalable05:30
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prediusguys, where am I recommending backports?05:31
prediuscould people scroll up a little?05:31
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bob2erm?05:31
conformistINredbob2: he was /msg ing me taht is what I was referring to...05:31
prediusxterra77 anyone know why the ubuntu guide is using backports? Should I use the reugular repo setup by default?05:31
xterra77conformistINred, I know it sounds unrelated...but its true and firefox 1.04 gets "bogged down" uses 105% resources on some sites..not usre how this is possible, but Official unbuntu is flawless05:31
bob2predius: when did anyone suggest you were recommending them05:31
flankkquestion: when evolution checks for mail on a pop server, does it delete messages from the server and store them to hd? because i just reformatted, and checked my mail via. the web-based interface, and -all- of my messages have been deleted.05:32
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xterra77predius, ?05:32
conformistINredbob2: the recommending of pastebin was to do with #flood05:32
conformistINredjust cause he had to do it again for me.05:32
prediusnot at you, I was posting something you had said, xterra7705:32
nosMy sound was working fine yesterday, and today it's not, alsamixer has the wrong soundcard selected, anyone able to help me change it?05:32
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xterra77predius, sorry long day at work and school05:33
bob2pastebin's are ever more annoying than #flood05:33
bob2nos: what has changed since it last worked?05:33
conformistINredmakavely: hey, I got you a sources.list you can take home... http://pastebin.com/293070 ...dont remove the # from the end of the file unless when you know what you are looking for, and as soon as you are done getting it, put the # back in front of the lines... referring to the last two entries in that sources.list05:33
conformistINredbob2: why would you say that? about pastebins?05:33
nosbob2, nothing, all I did today was open the case, blew out dust with air and tured the computer on05:33
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flankkxterra77, maybe flawless for you, after using it for a week, my cursor and page started jumping around rapidly on its own..05:34
bob2conformistINred: opening a browser tab is more annoying than switching irc windows05:34
prediusperhaps it got disconnected?05:34
conformistINredflankk: most programs by default do, you have to specify not tto.05:34
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makavelythanks05:34
nosbob2, no hardware changes were made and everything is seated correctly05:34
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flankkconformistINred, i am fine with that, i am just verifying that someone doesn't know my password :)05:34
naliothflankk: it only deletes mail on server, if you have it set to do so05:34
ZGamerExcuse me, but how do I access a floppy drive? New to linux....05:34
conformistINredbob2: Im not talking about annoyance, I am talking about him having a sopy of it to keep, not to have to paste ten times for 10 diff people, that is all, dunno whats more annoying to you:) know who this is?05:35
john123123123hello can i ask a question i am a new user to linux05:35
prediusno. ;)05:35
xterra77flankk, well my problem is...I can "never leave well alone" and always screw my installation up doing something...at least Ubuntu is easy to reinstall ;)05:35
john123123123funny05:35
transgressjohn123123123: /topic05:35
conformistINredflankk: yes, likely that is what happened, if you had not specified, yes keep a copy on the server, it was deleted when fetched05:35
bob2conformistINred: the 5 most useful people in this channel are already in #flood05:35
conformistINredwekll, I wasnt:-p05:35
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conformistINredmakavely: now, change your sources.list to that, sudo aptitude update, and install whatever you were trying to.05:36
naliothbob2, now i'm just crushed  <sniff>05:36
bob2hrm, that came out all wrong05:36
john123123123can i have a live cd only point to my memory stick 128mb05:36
bob2I take that back, I'm sorry05:36
transgressaptitude update?  isn't that a bit overkill... wouldn't sudo apt-get update work?05:36
makavelyon last question i erase the # when i put it in the source.list ?05:36
prediusweird, why is firefox-1.0.2 in the security rep?05:37
conformistINredmakavely, dont touch anything, till you learn what you are doing, it wil be fine now.05:37
bob2predius: because firefox has had numerous security issues since hoary came out05:37
conformistINredZGamer: is the floppy disk in the drive?05:37
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bob2predius: which are fixed in 1.0.2 in the security repository05:37
ZGamerconformist, yep.05:37
conformistINredbob2: what do you take bac?05:37
bigmac99anybody here using a tv tuner card with ubuntu?  I need help please.05:37
conformistINredYOu mean, the 5 most knowledgeable, not most useful;)05:37
john123123123can i have a live cd only point to my memory stick 128mb??05:38
naliothconformistINred: bob2 insulted most of us in one simple sentence <sniff>05:38
flankkconformistINred, thank you05:38
conformistINredim fine with that:) you are just teasing him too... I kno...05:38
naliothbob2 i'm just messin with ya05:38
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bigmac99for some reason Ubuntu is not recognizing my line-in on my Soundblaster Audigy 2 card05:39
conformistINredIm that conformistINred, dont thank me, thank the REBELinBLUE05:39
rebelINgreenwhat about me?05:39
arcticbluelol05:40
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nonconformistNOT='(05:40
ZGamerconformistINred: floppy is in drive.05:40
conformistINredhehe, but...myine was the original idea, + I played it better...like, the guy was REBELinBLUE, so I made myself conformistINred....see the point?05:40
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conformistINredzgamer, yeah, sorry...go places computer05:41
conformistrebel?05:41
conformistINreddouble click the floppy entry05:41
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conformistINredhaha,05:41
conformistINrednice, arcticblue...05:41
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arcticblueheh05:41
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ZGamerokay, in computer.05:41
Danko3ok, is there a floppy there?05:42
ZGamernope.05:42
Danko3bigmac99: did you disable the onboard ione in bios?05:42
arcticbluenow i have to listen to some rage against the machine...thanks guys05:42
bigmac99yes Danko305:42
naliotharcticblue: you're gonna boot up a windoze box?05:43
Danko3bigmac99: did you read this page: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26567&highlight=sound+cards I gotta go...05:43
makavelyconformistinred like this my source list should look like ? http://pastebin.com/29307405:43
arcticbluenalioth: lol05:43
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bigmac99thanks Danko3, I'll check it out05:44
Danko3makavely, no just like what I posted.05:44
nosbob2, Thanks for the reply, I got it figured out05:44
Danko3And, makavely, try #ubuntu-es if you have not...05:44
Danko3once you make it exactly as I posted....05:44
Danko3save, close the sources.list file... and in a terminal, type in sudo aptitude update and hit enter....and continue using your ubuntu like you did before this happened.05:44
Danko3ok, im out.05:45
Danko3sorr zgamer, someone will help you,05:45
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tiglionabbityo05:45
Danko3hey, tiglion] 05:45
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tiglionabbitExcuse me, but What is the standard resolution for ubuntu's incredible stupidity at internet connections for laptops?  I'm talking about keeping it from configuring forever at bootup05:46
bob2tiglionabbit: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct05:46
bob2tiglionabbit: and you've had this explained to you already05:46
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tiglionabbit*sighs05:48
bob2and why are you sighing?05:49
tiglionabbitlast time they said something about using netconf.  But other people are recommending ifplugd..  and gnome's network-admin program keeps mangling my network/interfaces file.  I have no auto lines in it, yet it continues to attempt to configure network settings05:50
tiglionabbitit's all so confusing.  What should I do?05:50
bob2no05:50
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bob2I told you how to fix it05:50
bob2get rid of the auto line from /etc/network/interfaces05:50
tiglionabbitI did05:50
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tiglionabbitI've tried restarting it while there is no auto lines in that at all, and it still does "configuring network settings"05:51
naliothbob2 if you do that "auto" removal, do you have to manually log into wireless networks?05:51
tiglionabbitnetwork-admin adds the auto lines whenever you run it, too05:51
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bob2so05:51
naliothtiglionabbit: if i recall, there is an entry at ubuntuguide on this issue05:51
tiglionabbitand does a bad job of it, with lots of extra whitespace05:51
bob2don't run network-ad,min05:51
tiglionabbithow else can I connect to wireless, bob?05:51
bigmac99anybody here running MYTHTV?05:52
tiglionabbitwhen I have no lan plugged in, it always enables my lan and disables my wireless05:52
bob2tiglionabbit: sudo ifup eth005:52
tiglionabbitthat's pretty dumb, isn't it?05:52
bob2nalioth: yes05:52
Prediusiwconfig, tiggggr05:52
Prediusiwconfig, tiglionabbit05:52
bob2tiglionabbit: please just stop whinging05:52
tiglionabbitI'm sorry05:52
bob2tiglionabbit: I told you it was a bug, and that it would be fixed in breezy05:52
tiglionabbitI know this is all fixed in breezy05:52
bob2I told you how to work around it, too05:52
nalioththx, bob205:52
bob2but still, you come back and abuse people, days later05:52
arcticbluewhere can i get the libdivxencore and libdivxdecore libraries at?05:53
tiglionabbitno you haven't bob2, I still can't get it to work05:53
tiglionabbitI'll check ubuntuguide05:53
bob2tiglionabbit: can't get WHAT to work?05:53
tiglionabbiter, I'm sorry, I don't want to sound like an ass.05:53
bob2if you remove the auto line, you won't have delays on boot05:53
tiglionabbitbob2: that is incorrect05:53
bob2if you want to bring it up, "sudo ifup eth0", as I said05:53
bob2tiglionabbit: paste your /etc/network/interfaces to #flood05:53
tiglionabbitthere05:54
tiglionabbitI trimmed the whitespace out of it after network-admin mangled it05:55
tiglionabbitoh, how do I view the log of messages it prints on startup?05:55
bigmac99anybody here using a TV TUNER card? or MYTHTV?05:55
bob2comment out the mapping lines05:55
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bob2bigmac99: dude, if they did they would have answered05:55
bob2bigmac99: try asking on the ubuntu-users list, http://lists.ubuntu.com/05:55
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awb4422bigmac99: i am05:55
bigmac99are you running MythTV?05:56
awb4422yes05:56
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bigmac99how long have you been running it?  I can't apt-get it05:56
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tiglionabbitbob2: You mean the set of 3 lines, or just the first?05:56
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awb4422since hoary came out. have you enabled the multiverse and universe repositories?05:57
bigmac99yes05:57
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Revolucioni need help with unbuntu!05:57
bob2tiglionabbit: all 305:57
naliothRevolucion: help with what? speak up05:57
rebelINgreenRevolucion: try joining #unbuntu then05:57
tiglionabbitis backports.ubuntuforums.org down?05:57
Prediusthey closed it.05:57
naliothtiglionabbit: backports are trouble05:57
tiglionabbitreally?05:57
tiglionabbito05:57
bigmac99I get an error message about dependency problems05:57
bob2tiglionabbit: read the website05:57
Prediuscheck the mirrors, they should work.05:57
bob2also, ask on the forums, that;s the only place they seem to hang out05:58
Revolucioni need to install flash player, and have no idea how to. i've already downloaded it, and i dont know how to unpack it05:58
bob2Revolucion: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:58
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naliothRevolucion: have you read ubuntuguide.org?05:58
Revolucionno.05:58
naliothRevolucion: read both places05:58
awb4422bigmac99: what is the error?05:58
bigmac99it starts with libc6 should be this version but ubuntu version is installed05:59
Revolucionno see i already got it05:59
Revolucionand i just dont know how to unpack it05:59
naliothRevolucion: one (or both) of those links will tell you how to install it05:59
bigmac99then libqt3c102-mt same thing05:59
awb4422bigmac99: did it give instructions about apt-get -f install06:00
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bob2awb4422: that won't help06:00
bob2the package bigmac99 has is not for Ubuntu06:00
awb4422bigmac99: and are you pulling from multiverse/universe or the ~mdz packages?06:00
bob2and is not installable on ubuntu06:00
Revolucionlet me clear it up. i dont know how to use liunx, i need step by step help.06:00
arcticbluewhere can i get the libdivxencore and libdivxdecore libraries at?  i can't find them in any of the repos.06:00
bob2Revolucion: did you read either of those websites?06:00
awb4422bob2: oh ok.. i had a libc6 error earlier tonight, and it told me to do a apt-get -f install06:00
Revolucionthe first one06:00
bigmac99awb - it doesn't say anything about apt-get -f install on the error message06:01
bob2awb4422: that won't fix it06:01
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bigmac99I think I have the multiverse/universe and ~mdz in my sources.list now, but I didn't have the mdz line in there at first06:01
awb4422bigmac99: well you can check out this site: http://www.cs.rit.edu/~css8044/?q=mythtv06:01
naliotharcticblue: you got multiverse, universe?06:01
s234 ./linuxq3ademo-1.11-6.x86.gz.sh06:01
s234Warning: Tried to connect to session manager, Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed06:01
awb4422i typically just sudo apt-get install mythtv06:01
arcticbluenalioth: yes06:01
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ron_42I am using Ubuntu and wondered what programs I could use to write a jpg slide show with music that outputs cross platform06:02
bigmac99bob2 - do you mean mythtv is not for ubuntu ?  what do you mean?06:02
naliotharcticblue: welcome to the world of source building06:02
bob2bigmac99: I mean the packages you have are not for ubuntu06:02
bob2s234: don't run it as root06:02
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s234whats gdm done wrong?06:02
tiglionabbitkk brb, hope it works this time06:02
s234ok06:02
bigmac99I don't have any packages, I am doing apt-get06:02
arcticbluenalioth: yeah, i'm quite familiary with it...i just can't find those libraries anywhere.  projectmayo is dead.06:02
bob2ron_42: openoffic, probably06:02
bob2bigmac99: yes, all apt-get does is download and install packages06:03
naliotharcticblue: how bout the source of those libs?06:03
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bigmac99bob2 - how can I fix it?  why did apt-get not install the right packages06:03
arcticbluenalioth: hold on, let me check06:03
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xyzxHey Foks what is the best way to provide a remote access to my ubuntu/webserver to upload html etc. files?06:03
naliotharcticblue: iow, are they "apt-get source -b <pkgname>"-able?06:03
crimsunxyzx: scp06:04
bigmac99awb - I try that and it doesn't work06:04
naliothxyzx: sshd of course!06:04
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arcticbluenalioth: i tried apt-get source divx*      nada06:04
rixthHow can I get the (hdX,X) numbers?06:04
naliotharcticblue: how bout *divx*06:04
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bob2bigmac99: because the packages you told it about are not for ubuntu06:04
arcticbluenalioth: nothing06:05
bob2ron_42: hd0,0 = hda1, hd1,3 = hdb306:05
bigmac99so mythtv is not for ubuntu?06:05
bob2bigmac99: lord06:05
bob2bigmac99: mythtv works fine on ubuntu06:05
naliotharcticblue: hang on a minim06:05
bob2bigmac99: the particular random packages of it you found are not for ubuntu06:05
bob2find better ones06:05
bob2or install from source06:05
bigmac99how do I make apt-get instll different ones?06:06
ron_42I have tried Openoffice presentation but the dialog to add sound is grayed out06:06
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bob2bigmac99: you find where they are and tell apt abou tthem in /etc/apt/sources.list06:06
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frank_mcanyone know why I cant get totem to play anything?06:07
tiglionabbitbeautiful!  Thanks bob2!  sorry for whining06:07
[Spooky] how do i install the nvu package ? ive tried as they said in the ubuntuguide.org but it dosent work...06:07
bob2frank_mc: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:07
tiglionabbitfrank_mc: maybe you need codecs06:07
tiglionabbitwhat he said06:07
bigmac99ok....thanks for your help BOB2 and AWB442206:07
frank_mccant get codecs to install06:07
tiglionabbitfrank_mc: can you find the package "w32codecs" ?06:08
nalioth[Spooky] : using apt-get doenst work?06:08
[Spooky] nalioth: nope it cant find the "nvu package"06:08
frank_mcI'll try now like so apt-get w32codecs06:09
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tiglionabbitfrank_mc: apt-get install06:10
frank_mcI get E: Invalid operation w32codecs06:10
frank_mck06:10
nalioth[Spooky] : hmmm, not up on ubuntuguides misdirections06:10
tiglionabbitwhere does it store the messages it prints when my computer is starting up?06:11
frank_mcgot E: Couldn't find package w32codecs06:11
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rixthYa'll know the numbers like (hd0,0) eh? What would it be for a SATA drive?06:11
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rixthw32codecs been gone for ages.06:11
tiglionabbitfrank_mc: you might need to add some of the backports mirrors: http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/url.php06:11
tiglionabbitadd some mirrors there to your sources.list06:11
frank_mcHow do I ad a backport06:12
naliothfrank_mc: don't add backports, just google ubuntulinux.org for "restricted formats"06:12
[Spooky] nalioth: well wery strange...06:12
rixthYa'll know the numbers like (hd0,0) eh? What would it be for a SATA drive? I need to set up Grub.06:12
geetergodHow do i install Doom 3 from the CD?06:12
rixthThis is #ubuntu... Or is Doom III available for Linux?06:13
tiglionabbitnalioth: the restricted formats faq tells you to add the backports repository, which is down.  I directed him to the page of alternative backports repositories06:13
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geetergodyah you can play Doom3 on linux06:13
tiglionabbiter, not down but refusing connection06:13
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naliothtiglionabbit: he can get the w32codecs from universe or multiverse06:14
ron_42bob42 I have tried Open Office Presentation but the sound is grayed out06:14
tiglionabbitk06:14
tiglionabbitinstruct him then, nalioth06:14
geetergodanyone know how i can install Doom3 from the CD?06:14
tiglionabbitanyway, my question, where's the startup log?06:14
rebelINgreenwhat's an easy way to reconfigure sound?  is there like a dpkg-reconfigure something?06:14
rixthWhen I try and install grub I get "grub-install /dev/sda *break* /dev/sda does not have any corresponding BIOS drive."06:14
naliothtiglionabbit: frank_mc the info is in the restrictd formats wiki, discoverable at ubuntulinux.org via google06:15
naliothtiglionabbit: dmesg06:15
ron_42bob2 I have tried OpenO presentation but the sound is grayed out06:16
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tiglionabbitnalioth: no, that's not the log I'm looking for.  I want the actuall messages printed to console as it boots.  I can't read them fast enough06:17
geetergodcan someone help me install Doom3 from the CD?06:17
Razor-Xgeetergod: what's the problem06:17
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geetergodI just never installed from a CD yet06:18
Razor-Xis it possible to create a UT live CD?06:18
Razor-Xor, at least, keep a Windows copy of UT on CD?06:18
arcticbluea UT live CD...hmm06:19
tiglionabbitis there a log file where it stores the messages printed as ubuntu boots up?06:19
rixthWhen I try and install grub I get "grub-install /dev/sda1 *break* /dev/sda does not have any corresponding BIOS drive."<<<<>>>> But, /dev/sda1 is listed under fdisk -l06:19
arcticbluei don't think it would be that hard to have a stripped down custom knoppix that auto-launches UT06:19
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geetergodI put in the Doom CD and i dont even know where to go from there06:19
humbrarotiglionabbit: try dmsg | less06:19
Razor-XI know there's a UT Demo live CD (gentoo)06:19
EircBdoom3?06:20
frank_mcso where are the codecs to be found06:20
Razor-Xarcticblue: what specs do you think it would need?06:20
rixthfrank_mc, http://mplayer.hu06:20
tiglionabbithumbraro: no, I said that's not the log I'm looking for06:20
humbrarooops06:20
frank_mcok mplayer sounds good06:20
tiglionabbitthose messages are not the ones printed to console06:20
humbraro:)06:20
naliothtiglionabbit: ctrl-alt-f1 doesnt do it?06:20
rixthDownload the essential pack and extract it in ~/.gnome2/totem-addons (I think)06:20
humbrarojust tuned in06:20
tiglionabbitnalioth: nope.06:21
Razor-Xwhy does everyone just have to have codecs?06:21
Razor-X;)06:21
Razor-Xuse VLC, it's codec free!06:21
arcticblueRazor-X: as far as system specs or drivers and such?06:21
frank_mctried that still only plays avi's06:21
tiglionabbitnalioth: It appears to re-init that console part way through, so I can only scroll up a little bit06:21
Razor-Xarcticblue: system specs06:21
frank_mcvlc?06:21
arcticblueRazor-X: and this is regular UT?06:21
Razor-XI may strip it down to just what I need, though06:21
Razor-Xarcticblue: the original, with some mods06:21
Razor-Xfrank_mc: yes06:22
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arcticblueRazor-X: i'd say at least 300Mhz, 64MB ram, and a cheap 3d accelerator will handle it.06:22
transgressanyone?  way to reconfigure sound in ubuntu?06:22
naliothtiglionabbit: somewhere out there is a code snippet to enable scrolling in your terminal, AND a command to show you all that mess (i don't know the command)06:22
tiglionabbitthere are a lot of versions of vlc available.  Which is best for ubuntu?06:22
frank_mcwhere do I find vlc?06:22
Razor-Xand, by the w ay, does anyone have this chatroom logged in the last 6 hours?06:23
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geetergodcan someone walk me through it?06:23
arcticblueRazor-X: if you got some mods though...it might take up more than a CD so you may need a DVD06:23
Razor-Xtiglionabbit: sudo apt-get install vlc06:23
tiglionabbitnalioth: I can scroll up with shift+page-up, but that doesn't help, as vterm 1 clears and starts over part way through the boot06:23
arcticblueRazor-X: i have a pretty good chuck of logs06:23
naliothfrank_mc: on the other end of an apt-get command06:23
Razor-Xarcticblue: don't have a DVD writer ;)06:23
Razor-Xarcticblue: ooh, nice!06:23
naliothtiglionabbit: somewhere is the setting for how many lines stay in buffer06:23
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tiglionabbitnalioth: it's not that either.  I can scroll much farther than this.  I'm telling you, it's not a scrolling issue06:24
tiglionabbitbut I'm quite sure these things are logged somewhere06:24
naliothtiglionabbit: then i'm out of help on this issue, but there is a command to regurgitate all that out to you06:25
frank_mcand I get  E: Couldn't find package vlc06:25
frank_mclike I get with everything I try to install06:25
Razor-Xfrank_mc: did you get the extra repositories?06:26
Razor-X*add06:26
naliothfrank_mc: have you googled "restricted formats" at site:ubuntulinux.org?06:26
tiglionabbitfrank_mc: open your file /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment all the repositories (remove #s from before lines with 'deb' at the start )06:26
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humbrarotiglionabbit: obviously, dmesg prints the kernel messages; if its the init messages you're looking for, you might need to edit the rc files to log somewhere06:26
frank_mcya added that one but It complained that it was unable to add it06:27
arcticblueRazor-X: hope that's enough for you.  i don't know if it's six hours though06:27
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naliothfrank_mc: you need to use the "sudo" command b4 you can edit it06:27
tiglionabbitfrank_mc: that repository is down.  Add one of the alternatives I mentioned06:27
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nernhey hey hey gang06:27
tiglionabbitfrank_mc: by the way, you can do all of this easily in synaptic.  Try using it06:27
nernwow06:27
geetergodstill could use instruction on how to install Doom3 from the CD :)06:27
nerni love totem06:27
Razor-Xarcticblue: what timezone are you in?06:28
tiglionabbitbackports mirrors: http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/url.php06:28
geetergodnern, you ever try xine?06:28
arcticblueRazor-X: pacific06:28
Razor-Xoh, good06:28
nerngeetergod: i use totem-xine06:28
Varangerplease06:28
geetergodoh kool06:28
Varangerhi06:28
VarangerI have a Intel HD Audio06:28
geetergodyou know how i can install Doom3 from the CD?06:28
nernI didnt realize until just a little while ago that i can take screenshots of what im playing with totem06:28
nernits so great06:29
nernyeah i could use some help installing a game too06:29
nernUT200406:29
Varangerhow can I make it work  RIGHT !!! I am using Hoary and Kernel linux-686-smp (2.6.10-5-696-smp)06:29
nernI see the linux-installer.sh file06:29
nernbut it doesnt do anything when i double click on it06:29
geetergodi just dont know where to start, never installed from a CD before.06:29
tiglionabbitwow, vlc is awesome!06:30
WhiteRabbitsh /.linux-installer.sh06:30
naliothnern: you have to start it from a terminal06:30
tiglionabbitI think I wanna ditch mplayer06:30
nernok06:30
arcticbluewhat is vlc?06:30
nernlike that?06:30
tiglionabbitarcticblue: it's a video player06:30
tiglionabbitmedia player I mean06:30
WhiteRabbitor just sh linux-installer.sh06:30
geetergodvlc is cool06:30
nernsh ./linux-installer.sh ?06:30
WhiteRabbitor ./linux-installer.sh06:30
nernvlc is pretty 133706:30
nernok06:30
tiglionabbitlol, I accidentally said VCL one time instead06:30
nerndo i need to do it as root or no06:30
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naliothnern: if you initiate it as root, your whole system may be affected06:31
WhiteRabbitnern: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=4006:31
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Varangerhow can I make my Intel HD Audio work  RIGHT !!! I am using Hoary and Kernel linux-686-smp (2.6.10-5-696-smp)06:32
WhiteRabbitnern: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=3106:32
WhiteRabbitnern: also install openal06:32
naliothVaranger: if someone knows, they will answer up06:32
WhiteRabbitnern: I install all games as root as you can make changes to the game via your /home/you/.ut2004 folder06:33
Varangernalioth: thanks nalioth !06:33
nernWOOT06:34
nernits working06:34
nernnice06:34
geetergodCan anyone walk me through installing a game from a CD?06:36
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nernthey just told me how to06:37
nernit should work the same i assume06:37
geetergodhow?06:37
dr_willisgeetergod,  it depends a great deal on the game.06:37
geetergodit work for u?06:37
tiglionabbityo, if I have the mplayer browser plugin and the vlc browser plugin at the same time, what will happen?06:37
Razor-Xdamn, I missed that hikaru person, and the PMs he sent to me are too far up06:37
geetergodits Doom3 dr_willis06:37
Razor-XI _really_ need to start enabling auto-logging in BitchX06:37
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dr_willisgeetergod,  i imagine theres a readme, on the cd's or ya can google for 'linux doom3 install'06:38
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frank_mcgetting there, I think06:39
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nernfuck06:40
nernit didnt work06:40
nernit aborted06:40
nernsaying it couldnt write a file or something06:40
samuelhello all06:40
samuelok, im a little confused on the spu freq scaling options, what should i use for a pentium-m? powernowd, cpufreqd, or cpudyn?06:40
frank_mcvlc worked, thanks all!06:41
geetergodgrr i cant find anything06:42
frank_mcapt-get install w32codecs06:42
frank_mcsorry wrong window06:42
Razor-Xfrank_mc: toldja!06:42
Razor-Xyou don't need w32codecs06:42
Razor-Xthere's no point06:42
frank_mcok but I just wanted to see if I could get totem working06:43
nernyou dont need the w32codecs if yer gonna use vlc06:43
naliothfrank_mc: but you do if you use anything else06:43
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frank_mcok, but I'm felling good now, gota see06:44
frank_mcI got the power06:44
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nerni use totem06:45
nerntotem-xine06:45
nernnot totem-gsteamer06:45
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Anubishow does one change whats in the "open with" dialogue?06:46
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frank_mcgot things going when I edited the sources.list file06:47
naliothfrank_mc: welcome to the universe (and multiverse)06:48
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naliothAnubis: "use othe program" and check the box "always open with" or something in that direction06:48
Anubisplease?06:48
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frank_mcI've tried a lot of flavors of linux but this is the best I've found yet06:49
Anubisnainot quite06:49
paringashi, guys, id like to get involved with coding. how do i do it? i tried reading through the wiki but it seems a bit confusing.06:49
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geetergodCan someone walk me through installing Doom3 from the CD?06:49
Anubisnalioth, not quite06:49
JairunCalothI'm having problems getting fastwrites and SBA enabled on my Nvidia drivers06:49
Anubisrt. click a file06:49
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Anubisopen with06:50
Anubisthen ther is a list06:50
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Anubisthat list06:50
Anubishow to change whats in it?06:50
naliothAnubis: down at the bottom, adding a special proggy doenst add it to the list?06:50
geetergodCan someone walk me through installing Doom3 from the CD?06:50
naliothAnubis: i don't know how to delete from the list06:50
rixthI'm unable to install either Ubuntu OR Debian on my new SATA drive, they both give them same error (installing off ISOs, not netinst) I get "No installable kernel found in defined APT sources" Wtf? I can install both Debian & Ubuntu on my PATA drive fine.06:50
Anubisnalioth, it does, but does,nt remove em once uninstalled06:51
rixthWhat's causing this error and hopw di I fix it?06:51
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Tomcat_rixth: You probably need to load some SATA driver first... no idea how though.06:51
naliothAnubis: i'm out of idears, then06:51
leo_mxi have a HP multifunctional printer...i got the drives for linux...i installed them...and now they are properly installed (as the Synaptic package manager says)....but i dont know how to make it work...i readed some websites about how doing it, but it doesnt work...and im sure my printer/scanner is supported becaus ethe device manager displays it in the list...06:51
crimson-i'm using a cardbus laptop card (the ones you plug in) as an ethernet port, as my laptop doesn't have one.  how can i configure a connection so that i can plug in the cable from my DSL modem into it?06:51
rixthTomcat, no, it detects my dirve fine, and after it errors I go look at the contents of the dirve and it's put things in there.06:52
Tomcat_leo_mx: In synaptic, check out what files the driver installed... then try man <somefile> or just start something that looks promising.06:52
Tomcat_rixth: Weird. :I06:52
leo_mxthanx tomcat...lets see what can i do06:52
Tomcat_rixth: Maybe your CD is damaged... no idea.06:53
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rixthTomcat_, Google wasn't much help. Basically no results.06:53
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geetergodcan someone help me install Doom3 from the CD?06:54
WhiteRabbitgeetergod: you need to linux installer06:55
Tomcat_geetergod: You asked three times in 10 minutes... I guess not, sorry. ;)06:55
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geetergodhow do i use linux installer?06:55
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geetergodmy brother did it on his linux but isnt here, he doesnt really remember how either06:55
WhiteRabbitgeetergod: ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/doom3/linux/doom3-linux-1.3.1302.x86.run06:56
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caine_what is a good cd burning prog for ubuntu?06:56
WhiteRabbitdownload that then sudo sh doom3-linux-1.3.1302.x86.run with the doom 3 cd in the tray06:56
WhiteRabbitcaine_: k3b06:56
Tomcat_caine_: Nautilus can also burn CDs and I'm quite happy with it. :o06:57
caine_WhiteRabbit: if i follow you will trinity meet me  lol06:57
Tomcat_o_O06:57
crimson-i'm using a cardbus laptop card (the ones you plug in) as an ethernet port, as my laptop doesn't have one.  how can i configure a connection so that i can plug in the cable from my DSL modem into it?06:57
WhiteRabbitcaine_: you think the matrix came up with the name WhiteRabbit...06:57
caine_its a joke but you got it lol06:57
WhiteRabbitI would have smiled with a jefferson airplane poke even though thats not the reason as well06:57
Tomcat_crimson-: Try ppp<tab>... there's some installer for DSL stuff.06:58
geetergodWhiteRabbit: i dont understand whats on this link you sent me?06:58
WhiteRabbitbut the matrix is so 1 year ago hah06:58
WhiteRabbitgeetergod: thats the linux installer to install doom3 off your cd06:58
caine_im sorry i found it quite funny but ok lol06:58
WhiteRabbitgeetergod: wget ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/doom3/linux/doom3-linux-1.3.1302.x86.run06:58
WhiteRabbitor curl it06:58
geetergodso what do i do with this page though?06:58
leo_mxi think my problem is with the "ptal-init setup" command...the first time i runned it it made me some questions like the IP od the device (hp printer) and i didnt know it..so i just click enter,etc...and not when i try running this command again..it displays some info like "currently defined device names..." -"none"....what could i do?06:58
geetergodam i sposed to go through the terminal with it?06:59
WhiteRabbitgeetergod: ya download that file & follow the instructions06:59
WhiteRabbitgeetergod: you ever downloaded a file Im sure you have06:59
WhiteRabbitjust download it06:59
geetergodit just shows a bunch of commands and stuff06:59
WhiteRabbitah06:59
crimson-Tomcat_: ppp<tab>? sorry you're talking to a newbie, i just started trying out distros yesterday06:59
WhiteRabbitpop a term then06:59
WhiteRabbit& type wget ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/doom3/linux/doom3-linux-1.3.1302.x86.run06:59
WhiteRabbitwget is a downloader07:00
WhiteRabbitwhat ever dir your in when you issue wget is were the file will go07:00
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wdh_crimson-, try System -> Administration -> Networking07:01
crimson-thx07:01
Tomcat_Mh... that would be another way. :)07:01
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naliothwget is da shizzle07:01
geetergodis this just a demo tho?07:02
tiglionabbithey guys.  What's the difference between `apt-get upgrade` and `apt-get dist-upgrade` ?07:02
Tomcat_But does Ubuntu networking support dsl? :o07:02
WhiteRabbitgeetergod: thats the installer for the retail cd07:02
geetergodok sweet07:02
Tomcat_tiglionabbit: The first will only update existing packages, the second one will also resolve dependencies.07:02
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wdh_Tomcat_, more n00b-friendly maybe..07:02
tiglionabbitalso resolve dependencies-- what does that mean to happen differently?07:02
wdh_tiglionabbit, rtfm07:03
naliothTomcat_: shouldnt your installed pkgs already be dependency fixed?07:03
geetergodthe file name is 'doom3-linux-1.1.1282-demo.x86.run' that correct?07:03
tiglionabbitwdh_: I did, but I don't quite get it07:03
wdh_tiglionabbit, ok, sorry then..07:03
Tomcat_tiglionabbit: The second one is necessary if an updated package has different dependencies than the old one... then dist-upgrade will install the dependency packages as well.07:03
tiglionabbitoh07:03
tiglionabbitI see07:03
Tomcat_nalioth: Of course, but when the server has an updated package with new deps... :P07:03
nalioththx, tomcat07:03
tiglionabbitso dist-upgrade is the advisable option?07:03
bur[n] er_anyone use xterminal or Terminal from the xfce guys??07:04
naliothnighty night07:04
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WhiteRabbitgeetergod: wget ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/doom3/linux/doom3-linux-1.3.1302.x86.run07:04
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Tomcat_tiglionabbit: If you want to have a clean system like I do, use apt-get upgrade and when it tells you it "keeps back" a package, use dist-upgrade and check out the new deps...07:04
WhiteRabbitdoom3-linux-1.3.1302.x86.run not doom3-linux-1.1.1282-demo.x86.run <--- thats the demo & its like 400 megs or so lol07:04
geetergodthat link u sent me doesnt have anything to install...07:05
Tomcat_tiglionabbit: But yes, dist-upgrade will always work correctly where just "upgrade" might keep packages at an old version because deps can't be installed.07:05
WhiteRabbitgeetergod: dont install it tonite wait til the morning!07:05
WhiteRabbitthat is just the installer its not the full game07:05
WhiteRabbitif you dont own the retail cd then you cant install jack.07:06
geetergodi own the retail cd07:06
WhiteRabbitsh doom3-linux-1.3.1302.x86.run07:06
WhiteRabbitthat will start the installer07:06
tiglionabbitalright.  At first when I read dist-upgrade I thought it meant it would allow grabbing packages marked for a different distro, and perhaps break the dependencies..   but that's just paranoia, never mind07:06
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geetergodok its installing07:08
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wdhtiglionabbit, it will do that also.. but only if you have newer sources in /etc/apt/sources.list07:09
geetergodwhat should i type in terminal to start doom3?07:10
crimsun_doom307:10
geetergodsays command not found07:10
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geetergodit said installation complete and everything07:10
caine_how do i set up evolution to work with my yahoo email?07:10
caine_???07:11
TheMusoHey all. I have set up Ubuntu Hoary on my system using Software RAID, using my motherboard's on-board Promise controller, one drive plugged into a SATA port, and the other into the PATA port for that controller. All is installed with no problems, however DMA doesn't seem to work for my CD-ROM drive, or another drive that I have plugged into the standard IDE ports on my motherboard. Windows and the BIOS reports that all drives are, and 07:11
geetergodWhiteRabbit: it installed, now what?07:12
tiglionabbitTheMuso: cut off after "all drives are, and"07:12
WhiteRabbitgeetergod: issue the start cmd to start the game if you wanna play it07:12
geetergodi dont know the start cmd thats the prob07:12
neighborleehas there been an resolution to the gnome-panel crashing  ?..just wondering as I dont think I saw as much of it in kubuntu ( crashing as in )07:13
WhiteRabbitdoom307:13
TheMusotiglionabbit: ?07:13
caine_how do i set up evolution to work with my yahoo email?07:13
WhiteRabbittype doo then hit tab07:13
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WhiteRabbittab is our friend & pal07:13
katzorTheMuso, try what 'hdparm /dev/device' says07:13
geetergodgeetergod@cpe-66-24-86-121:~$ doom307:13
geetergodbash: doom3: command not found07:13
NicPok guys i need a favor, a mate has designed a new pair of shoes and it would be greatly appriciated if you could vote for them07:14
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NicPwww.sneakerfreaker.com07:14
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shidook07:14
NicPall you have to do is click a couple of things07:14
shidoI have officially blew away my entire drive and replaced XP with ubuntu07:14
NicPme too shido :D07:14
shidowhere do I set the 0's and 1's after the usb module07:14
geetergodme too shido07:14
shidofor sound07:14
shidoand can I do this dynamically07:14
shidoi just installed fglrx for my radeon - got my resolution going again07:15
shidoforgot where to set the sound07:15
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thenostradamushas anyone tried installing limewire on the amd64 ubuntu?07:15
shidoI need to set the hdparm or whatever the command was for the dma fix07:15
katzor/etc/hdparm.conf07:15
WhiteRabbitgeetergod: should of read what the start cmd was07:16
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WhiteRabbitat least its installed now all you gotta do is locate that cmd to start it hm07:16
Anubis The items in this submenu correspond to the contents of the following parts of the File Types and Programs preference tool:07:16
TheMusokatzor: What specifically am I looking for?07:16
geetergodim in the readme looking07:16
Anubisthis tool is where?07:16
katzora line that says sth with dma07:16
WhiteRabbit/usr/bin <-- would be a nice place to look, Look at the entrys starting with the char of d07:16
katzorusing_dma07:16
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crimsun_shido: what sound cards do you have, and which do you want to be primary?07:16
TheMusokatzor: It says 0.07:17
AnubisIn the view pane, select the file that you want to perform an action on. Choose File  Open With. The Open With submenu opens. The items in this submenu correspond to the contents of the following parts of the File Types and Programs preference tool:07:17
katzorallright07:17
TheMusokatzor: I know this drive can do DMA, and when I run the LIVE CD, it does use DMA.07:17
katzorTheMuso, do sudo gedit /etc/hdparm.conf07:17
katzorand simply tell it to07:17
TheMusokatzor: Already done that.07:17
geetergodi can find the file in /home/geetergod/doom3/07:17
TheMusoThe message I get when trying to activate DMA is HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted.07:18
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katzorTheMuso,  mine has sth like /dev/hdb {dma = on}07:18
caine_how do i set up evolution to work with my yahoo email?07:18
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crimsun_caine_: search the forums07:19
shidook, am I an idiot? I just set07:20
shidocommand_line {07:20
shidohdparm -d1 /dev/hdd07:20
shido}07:20
shidocommand_line {07:20
shidohdparm -d1 /dev/hdc07:20
shido}07:20
katzorTheMuso, do you run it as root?07:20
TheMusokatzor: Yes.07:20
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shidocrimson-, I have 207:20
shidocrimson, I have usb 5.1 headphones07:21
shidoand soundmax 5.107:21
shidoI want the usb to be primary07:21
crimsun_then just leave the usb plugged in when you boot07:21
shidowhere do I set that - I believe I put 0 after usb or something07:21
katzorTheMuso, hmm...dunno what that is, the drive is IDE right?07:21
shidoin some fil07:21
shidoe07:21
crimsun_shido: are you always going to use the usb as primary?07:21
TheMusokatzor: Yes. As I said earlier, it works with DMA when the LIVE CD is running.07:21
TheMusokatzor: The same thing happens with my CD-ROM drive.07:22
geetergodwhats the file type im looking for to run Doom Whiterabbit?07:22
shidocrimson-, no I will not always use it as primary , I play movies out through the tv and want to use the onboard soundmax 5.1 when I do that but in the meantime I want to use my usb headphones , I would also like to know how to switch back and forth07:22
katzorTheMuso, hm, sorry , i cant help there07:22
crimsun_shido: then it's best to not edit any files07:22
katzorTheMuso, file a bug if you want to07:23
TheMusokatzor: Thanks anyway, will go to mailing list.07:23
crimsun_shido: just leave the usb headphones plugged in during boot if you want to use them as primary07:23
katzordo that07:23
katzoris wxgtk 2.6 in breezy ??07:24
crimsun_katzor: no07:24
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geetergodWhiteRabbit: shouldnt it have saved someplace under Applications?07:24
crimsun_katzor: when it enters Debian, I'll ask for a sync07:25
crimsun_katzor: but the Debian maintainer has not approved the current state for Debian, thus no package07:25
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LiquidGUIhey, I just need to know something quick, I am about ot download Ubuntu (I am switching) and I was wondering, I have an AMD64, should I get the AMD64 CD or should I go for the i38607:26
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thenostradamusamd6407:26
katzorcrimson-, i guess its a C++4 mess07:27
LiquidGUIwill I be able to run all i386 packages still07:27
crimsun_katzor: among other things07:27
bob2LiquidGUI: either one07:27
katzork07:27
bob2LiquidGUI: amd64 will be "faster", but you can't (easily) run proprietary stuff on it07:27
geetergodI just installed Doom3 and i have the retail CD, where do i go to play it?07:27
LiquidGUIwell I think I will go for i386 then07:27
bob2e.g. windows dlls in mplayer, programs with wine, proprietary linux programs07:27
transgressyeah such as i don't have flash on my amd64 lappy07:27
LiquidGUIThanks for your help (goes to download DVD)07:28
bob2I don't have flash on my i386 laptop, either, since it makes firefox so unstable07:28
transgressbut it doesn't change that i prefer to use it07:28
transgresshmm i haven't had much problem with flash and ff...07:28
bob2I have bad like with proprietary stuff. the nvidia binary drivers used to hard lock my desktop.07:29
LiquidGUIdoes ubuntu have good support for cameras?07:29
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bob2digital ones? yes.07:30
bob2mostly, plug it in and it will offer to import the pictures for you07:30
LiquidGUIK, that was really important to me07:30
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LiquidGUIalso, iPod support (w/ gtkpod I am assuming) at all?07:31
geetergodhey ShudderTrix07:31
bob2gtkpod is available, yeah07:31
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wdhin holland that is07:31
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LiquidGUIJudging by the topic, I should not get breezy correct :P07:33
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MadpilotLiquidGUI: you'd be amazed how many ppl don't get that hint in the topic... :p07:33
LiquidGUII assume Hoary would be the best choice then?07:33
wdhLiquidGUI, yes07:34
wdhunless you like something very unstable :)07:34
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wdhor are in a way masochistic07:34
LiquidGUIAlright, thanks you guys, I ran slackware for a while, was a pain in the ass07:34
LiquidGUIso I figured I would give Ubuntu a go07:34
LiquidGUIGood reviews all around07:34
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LiquidGUIThanks you guys, once again07:36
drummer87hi all, anyone here used enlightenment??07:36
wdhdrummer87, tried it once or twice07:36
K_Dallasi did for a very short period of time07:36
r2d4hi07:36
drummer87is it any good?07:37
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r2d4(fvwm)07:37
K_Dallasi dont see why i use something minimalistic and not use ION3!07:37
wdhdrummer87, if you like eyecandy especially ;)07:37
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wdhdrummer87, but otherwise, its quite nice07:37
drummer87well... all i really want from it is the dock it has (engage) :)07:37
wdh*also07:37
drummer87could i run engage in gnome if i installed e16 from apt?07:38
K_Dallasdrummer87, have a look at ion3! no dock no nothing07:38
wdhdrummer87, i believe its possible to run it in gnome..07:38
drummer87sweeet07:38
TezkahXFCE is awesome.07:39
ElBaronoenlightenment is cool if you want to use something 5 years old07:39
K_Dallasnaaaaaaaaaah :) awesome is too much for it07:39
r2d4hehe07:39
r2d4xfce > gnome > kde07:39
geetergodIf i just installed Doom3 why cant i find a way to play it?07:39
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K_Dallasion1 > ion2 > ion307:39
K_Dallas:):):)07:39
geetergodit says i need to do 'doom3' in terminal, but it said command not found07:40
wdh(/startingflamewar)07:40
TezkahI like lots of different WMs07:40
Tezkaheven icewm07:40
transgressgeetergod:  locate doom307:40
drummer87ion looks good... but i like a bit of eyecandy07:40
drummer87:)07:40
K_Dallas:):)07:40
geetergodits in home/geetergod/doom3...07:40
K_Dallasion is just the barenaked lady07:40
r2d4console > xfce07:40
geetergodbut i cant figure out how to play it07:41
wdhgeetergod, just find the executable..07:41
wdhand type that in the terminal with full path07:41
wdhs/that/its name07:42
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JohnFightsis there a way to get gkt apps to look more like kde ones when kde?07:43
geetergodhmm i cant find the .exe file07:43
r2d4geetergod-_- $doom307:44
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geetergodwhats the r2d4?07:44
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geetergodthat*07:44
wdhgeetergod, how long since you left windows again?07:44
rideoutJohnFights: apt-get install gtk2-engines-gtk-qt07:44
geetergodcouple days ago07:44
r2d4r2d2 -> r2d3 -> r2d407:45
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geetergodno i mean whats '$doom3'?07:45
r2d4$doom3 <- run?07:45
JohnFightsok i tried that but have a small problem when in gnome they look like kde is there a way to have it so when in gnome it looks like it should and look okay when in kde07:46
MyrttiI wonder what has happened to my rhythmbox07:46
geetergodit didnt do anything07:46
thenostradamuskde rocks07:46
Myrttiit just dies07:46
thenostradamus:-)07:46
r2d4geetergod-_- RTFM07:46
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geetergodnow you're confusing me07:48
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r2d4geetergod-_- sorry about that ^0^07:49
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geetergodjust seems weird, seems like 'doom3' should just start the game07:49
geetergodeverything looks to be installed and there07:49
Shuddertrixgeetergod: run the installer as root07:49
geetergodok07:50
rideoutanybody know how to mount a mac cdrom? I tried mount -t hfs /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0/ and -t iso9660, but neither work (neither does pmount)07:50
Shuddertrixgeetergod: then, you can start it up with just a plain old "doom3"07:50
Shuddertrixgeetergod: also, RTFM (nice) = read the freaking manual07:50
geetergodlol07:51
r2d4read the fine manual07:51
Shuddertrixr2d4: manuals are not fine..07:51
r2d4(google manuals)07:51
ShuddertrixLiveManuals07:52
Tezkahoddly enough, XFCE flashes the taskbar when GNOME wont...07:52
ShuddertrixSee, manuals are live.07:52
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JohnFightsis there anyway to run outlook 2003 in linux?07:52
Myrttiwhy07:53
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ShuddertrixJohnFights: Try Crossover office. But I doubt that 2003 works, probably XP or 2000 will.07:53
ShuddertrixJohnFights: Even then, learn to use the other mail clients07:53
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thenostradamusthunderbird07:53
Shuddertrixthunderbird, mozilla-mail, pine, kmail, etc.07:54
Myrttior evolution, if you prefer masochism07:54
Shuddertrixyeah07:54
xtremei recently tried to re-install ubuntu... and now duting the installation routine, it gives me error messages when it tries to partition my HD, and this is the second time this is happening when re-installing ubuntu on 2 diff HD's (im now on live cd).... anybody know this problem ?07:54
JohnFightsi tried all those none have the features i use alot in outlook07:55
xtreme(it wont finish formatting partitions in ext3, resierfs, and all other fs's)07:55
ShuddertrixJohnFights: What "features"?07:55
ShuddertrixJohnFights: Wait, Outlook has features?07:55
thenostradamushahahhahaha07:55
thenostradamuslmao @ shudder07:56
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JohnFightslol this why people dont like linux  people ccome for help and get microsoft bashing07:57
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ZeroTraceyeah... outlook's primary feature is it's ability to be a carrier for virii no matter what you do to stop it07:57
r2d4m$ bash?07:57
ShuddertrixJohnFights: Sorry, it's just natural for me07:57
ShuddertrixJohnFights: I bash Outlook, nothing else.07:57
kakaltoit's natural for most of us :P07:57
ShuddertrixWord is OK, Windows is OK, i'm fine with IE..07:57
thenostradamusyep, tell us a "feature"07:57
K_Dallasif your company does not force you to use outlook, i wonder why you would use it?07:57
ShuddertrixJust lookOut07:57
thenostradamusand we'll let u know07:57
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Morten^Toftfinde with IE ????07:58
Morten^Toftfine*07:58
ZeroTracei could never be fine with IE07:58
JohnFightsi have never got a virus on any windows computer07:58
JohnFightsor any computer of mine for that matter07:58
r2d4what's IE?07:58
K_Dallasthe guy surfs once in a blue moon07:58
Morten^ToftInternet Explore07:58
geetergodshouldnt 'sudo apt-get install doom3-linux-1.3.1302.x86.run07:58
geetergod' start the install with root?07:58
ShuddertrixI used it once.07:58
ShuddertrixOnce.07:58
r2d4sounds like a craps07:58
ShuddertrixTo go to mozilla.org XD07:58
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Morten^Toftheh07:58
geetergodShuddertrix, should that do it?07:59
Morten^Toftmy windows disk comes with firefox installed07:59
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Myrttidammit dammit dammit dammit07:59
ShuddertrixActually, i have it installed in cedega for work purposes. I hate that executable with a passion.07:59
Shuddertrixgeetergod: Yes.07:59
geetergodalmost starts it then says command not found08:00
JohnFightsthe reading panel in outlook is nice only thing that has it is thunderbird but its not as nice in thunderbird08:00
ShuddertrixJohnFights: If you use it like a personal information manager, the best i've seen is Kontact, not sure if there is a GTK-based one or not..08:00
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Shuddertrixreading panel?08:00
ZeroTracethat's my biggest problem with Thunderbird... it doesn't do PIM08:00
jorgpI just installed ubuntu and I have no sound, mixer channels are not muted and volumns are up and sound modules are loaded08:00
ShuddertrixZeroTrace: Yeah, same here..08:00
xtremeim thinking maybe its somethign to do with my MBR ?08:00
JohnFightsyes the message preview set to the right side08:01
ZeroTraceSunbird isn't even close to ready either08:01
ShuddertrixZeroTrace: I just use the KDE apps now though08:01
geetergodsays reading package lists... done and building dependancy tree... done, then command not found08:01
ZeroTracemy problem is that I like Gnome apps, but KDE has more apps because it's been around longer08:01
ShuddertrixYeah, exactly08:02
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ZeroTraceand on my laptop, disk space is at a premium so i really try to pick one or the other08:02
=== Shuddertrix has been a fan of kde since version 1 ;)
mlambieso, is it safe to use breezy in a server environment? ;)08:02
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ZeroTracemlambie: if the topic of this channel is any indication, no08:02
mlambieZeroTrace: exactly :)08:02
Shuddertrixmlambie: Do you like suicide, being eletricuted, screaming at the top of your lungs, bashing your head against your keyboard, or perhaps all of the above?08:02
mlambieI thought it was a funny topic08:02
xtremeis there anyway to wipe out my mbr from a terminal ?, and should i do it?08:03
ShuddertrixI think you see the point ;)08:03
ZeroTraceShuddertrix: i've known people that have done all three in a single day08:03
ZeroTraceShuddertrix: you left out falling through an open hole in a raised floor08:03
JohnFightsi can find most of the stuff i want  from outlook in linux mail apps only problem is the stuff i like about the is spread out between all the different programs08:03
Myrttioh wow08:04
ShuddertrixZeroTrace: Ooops.08:04
MyrttiI managed to get XMMS working08:04
geetergodgrr this is drivin me nuts08:04
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transgresshey where is the modules blacklist?08:04
ZeroTraceso... i'm about to install Ubuntu for my first time since somewhere around version 2... anything i should know?08:05
transgressnm i found it08:05
JohnFightsdoes anyone know if photoshop cs runs crossover office08:05
KarlosIIZeroTrace, around version 2?08:05
KarlosIIuse 5.0408:05
desplesdaubuntu had a version 2?08:05
desplesdathat's news to me08:05
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JohnFightsi thought 4.10 was the first version08:06
tiglionabbitme too, what were the other versions called then?08:06
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=== tiglionabbit looks it up* oh cool, there's spanish sites for it
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linuksoHi! I can't connect to anything with evolution! The network is ok, otherwise I wouldn't be talking here... I've tried connecting to several imap servers.08:06
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HelpPlzhey guys08:07
HelpPlzwhats up?08:07
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r2d4nothing news08:07
ram_einsteinhey, I just installed ubuntu. Where do I get my repos?08:07
JohnFightswhats a good program for rss feeds08:07
TycheWhat is the best and easiest email software to use?08:07
ShuddertrixJohnFights: Firefox, akregrator08:07
HelpPlzcan anyone answer my question about partitioning?08:07
Nici use liferea JohnFights08:07
Tychefor the server side...sorry08:07
ram_einsteinjoh, thunderbird08:07
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ram_einsteinTyche, thunderbird or evolution08:08
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NicTyche, thunderbird :)08:08
ram_einsteindependingon usage08:08
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xtremei recently tried to re-install ubuntu... and now duting the installation routine, it gives me error messages when it tries to partition my HD, and this is the second time this is happening when re-installing ubuntu on 2 diff HD's (im now on live cd)....08:08
xtreme(it wont finish formatting partitions in ext3, resierfs, and all other fs's)08:08
ram_einsteinHelpPlz, ask08:08
ShuddertrixTyche: I usually use exim, although hula is starting to come along nicely if you're into a good-looking gmail clone ;)08:08
ubermonziehi all08:09
HelpPlzi have 27 gigs to install ubuntu, what partitions and what size should i make them?08:09
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JohnFightsgoing to try lifrea :)08:09
transgressHelpPlz: make a partition for boot... which is just about... iuno... 30 megs would be plenty... and then at least one for /... if you want to you can do one for home... and depending on if you put in large stuff into your home make it as big as you think you will ned08:10
ShuddertrixJohnFights: Too good for akregrator, then?08:10
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ShuddertrixJust because it comes with KDE, hmm?08:10
Shuddertrix:P08:10
JohnFightsthats next lol08:10
ZeroTraceJohnFights: i'm not sure that it was version 2.. only that it was a while ago right after it first came out08:10
ubermonziedear HelpPlz , make a boot partition of 100M, swap 256-512M and the rest you can leave for /08:10
xtremei dont get why i cant format my partitions using the ubuntu installer, but i can using command line here on the liveCD08:10
HelpPlzubermonzie: hmm thanks mate08:11
ubermonzieyou can ,  xtreme .. select manual partitioning08:11
xtremei do that... but when i put "write changes to disk"... it ALWAYS gives me an error08:11
xtreme(wont complete the format process)08:11
ubermonzieyou can make a /home of 1-3 Gigs if you want HelpPlz08:11
transgressi usually just do /boot and / on my systems08:12
HelpPlzi have 27 gigs to put into unbuntu08:12
sevetshello08:12
transgressthat way i can just lvm / and leave boot alone08:12
ubermonziethat ways you can preserve your files if you want to change the Linux you want to use08:12
HelpPlzdoes swap really matter?08:12
ubermonzieYes, swap is ESSENTIAL. HelpPlz08:12
transgressyes08:12
sevetsCould anyone tell me how to download dependencies when using apt-get?08:12
HelpPlzdont you calculate how much swap you need with the amount of ram you got?08:12
paulproteussevets: They come in automatically.08:12
JohnFightsis there a way to get the auto update to load when kde starts?08:13
paulproteussevets: apt-get install program08:13
xtremei tried installing windows on the same drive adn it works.... but when i try ti install ubuntu, i cant format the partitions, so it never skips that step onto the next one durint the install.08:13
paulproteusThat will get program and any dependencies.08:13
paulproteusI'm moutta here to sleep now.08:13
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ram_einsteinhey, I badly need some repos08:13
ram_einsteinwhere do I get them?08:13
Danko3which ones? Ill hit you up..08:13
ubermonzieya you do. HelpPlz . but i guess 512 MB is more than enough,, i supppose you have 256MB ram or morw08:13
ram_einsteinI'm new to ubuntu08:13
Danko3:-p08:13
Danko3you type fast, tho.08:13
r2d4me too08:13
ram_einsteinDan, some basic repos08:13
sevetspaulproteus: it seems like it is saying that I am unable to download the dependencies then08:14
Danko3wanna learn something new btw?08:14
r2d4*forever*08:14
ram_einsteinsome decent repos08:14
ram_einsteinI can't install anything!08:14
ubermonziedeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe08:14
HelpPlzi might be installing games as well08:14
ubermonziedeb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe08:14
ubermonziedeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted08:14
ubermonziedeb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted08:14
ubermonziedeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe08:14
ubermonziedeb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe08:14
ubermonziedeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse08:14
ram_einsteinas soon as ubuntu is installed08:14
ubermonziedeb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse08:14
ubermonziedeb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat stable main08:14
HelpPlzshould i make a partition for games?08:14
ubermonziedeb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat unstable main08:14
Danko3www.mts.net/~danb/sources.list08:14
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ubermonziedeb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat testing main08:14
ubermonziejust make sure you have all the above lines, ram_einstein08:14
ram_einsteinmy god!08:14
ubermonziethat should do it08:14
ram_einsteinwait08:14
Danko3please dont paste, monzie, I know you wanna help;)08:14
HelpPlzshould i make a partition for games?08:15
Danko3ram_einstein: that page has good sources.list, that is the repos, do you know what to do with them, ram_einstein?08:15
ubermonziesorry, i thought a user might find it more convinient to copy and paste from here Danko308:15
ram_einsteinwhich page Danko308:15
ram_einsteinno I know yum08:15
ram_einstein/etc/yum.repos08:15
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sevetspaulproteus: can you tell me a way to get  vlc?08:15
ram_einsteinbut nothing about apt08:15
Danko3ubermonzie: I know, dont worry, check this soite out, http://pastebin.com08:15
Danko3ram_einstein: are you using Ubuntu?08:16
ubermonzieBy the way, are there any Ubuntu developers in this room now..08:16
ram_einsteinyes Danko308:16
ubermonziei need to talk,,08:16
ram_einsteinI'msorry ubermonzie, but what youpasted is way to scattered08:16
ram_einsteinmind pastebin?08:16
bur[n] ersevets: synaptic08:17
ram_einsteinand giving me a bit of instructions?08:17
ubermonziewait ... let me open a seperate chat window and give you the lines08:17
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sevetsbur[n] er: what is synaptic?08:17
p07r0457graphical package manager08:17
sevetsamazing08:17
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Danko3ram_einstein: check this out... you open a terminal, and type in sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list to open and edit the file with the list of repositories, then you look at the page I posted, and erase what you have in your file, and replace it what that link shows...then you save, and close gedit(editor) then in the same terminal, you type in sudo aptitude update and you are good. then you can sudo aptitude packageName when you want to08:18
ram_einsteinDanko3, which link!?08:19
p07r0457okay, I have a problem with my repositorys08:19
p07r0457hoping someone can lend a hand08:19
p07r0457I did the unofficial ubuntu guide thingy08:19
p07r0457but I can't get apt-get install sun-j2re1.5 to go08:20
p07r0457says it can't find that package08:20
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Danko3Now I g2g, and if you have more questions, please dont listen to ubermonzie's advice, he needs to learn more before he can give advice.... glad to have you tho, ubermonzie. As well, as a good read on repositories, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto ...... It is above, please scroll up, or I gues I could type, www.mts.net/~danb/sources.list08:20
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ram_einsteinthanks Danko308:20
ram_einsteinbye08:20
sevetsafter downloading synaptic how do I install it?08:20
p07r0457should already be installed08:20
p07r0457is it a .deb file?08:20
sevetsyes08:20
p07r0457sudo dpkg -i filename.deb08:21
sevetsthankya08:21
Danko3HelpPlz: you should use the default partitioning if you are installing on a whole hard drive, unless you know what you should do, and you should do what you need to do, and if you dont know about something, then you dont need it, pretty much.08:21
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linuksoHmmm, I can connect to my imap server with mutt, but not evolution. Any ideas anyone?08:21
transgresshey does anyone know what package snd_emu10k1 is in?08:21
Danko3sevets: please read the above mentioned wiki link, about repositories to learn about synaptic, it is built uin, you dont install that...08:21
p07r0457transgress > alsa, isn't it?08:22
transgressyeah that's what i thought, but for some reason my friend's sound blaster isn't starting up and those drivers aren't htere08:22
p07r0457anyone know what repository I have to add to get sun-j2re1.5?08:22
transgressthere08:22
p07r0457I've tried the ones posted here a minute ago08:22
ubermonzieDanko3, the repositories i told ram_einstein were enought to do the job..08:22
p07r0457I've also tried ubuntuguide.org08:22
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ubermonziewhat exactly do you want p07r0457 ?08:23
sevetshmm thanks danko308:23
transgressp07r0457: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java08:23
HelpPlzDanko3: I got one big hard drive with windows and linux08:23
p07r0457sun-j2re1.508:23
ubermonzieDo auto matic partitioning HelpPlz08:23
HelpPlzmight delete windows08:24
HelpPlzi dont trust it anyway08:24
transgressp07r0457: it's on that page08:24
p07r0457doesn't work for me08:24
HelpPlzim off installing, but im not sure about the game partition08:24
transgresshow so?08:24
ubermonzieif you want to keep windows, you have to do manual...08:24
p07r0457p07r0457@P07r0457:~$ sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.508:24
p07r0457Reading package lists... Done08:24
p07r0457Building dependency tree... Done08:24
p07r0457E: Couldn't find package sun-j2re1.508:24
transgressgive details08:24
HelpPlzanyway bye08:24
transgressdid you sudo apt-get update after you added the repo?08:24
p07r0457yep08:24
JohnFightswhat would i delete to get my gnome to start again. something is wrong and gnome wont load on one of my accounts08:24
ubermonzieyou have to get your repos rifht p07r045708:24
transgressp07r0457: try 1.5.008:25
p07r0457did the ones posted here a minute ago, and I had the ones at ubuntuguide.org before that08:25
p07r0457just tried 1.5.0, no go08:25
ubermonziesearch for j2re in synaptic, if you have it installed,08:25
p07r0457forgive the paste here.... but this is my sources.list file:08:25
p07r0457#08:25
p07r0457deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-security main restricted universe multiverse08:25
p07r0457#08:25
p07r0457deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-updates main restricted universe multiverse08:25
p07r0457#08:25
p07r0457deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted universe multiverse08:25
p07r0457#08:25
ubermonzieshould work without a hitch08:25
p07r045708:25
p07r0457#08:25
Danko3ubermonzie: ok, well let me tell you what was completely wrong about them, deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat unstable main .... and he would likely end up with a broken apt-get system, for a while.. now let me tell you all, just a friendly advice keep in mind... please do not post answers to questions you are not fairly certain you know what to do with, since you are actually making it worse by getting the question offe the scree08:25
p07r0457deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-security main restricted universe multiverse08:25
p07r0457#08:25
p07r0457deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-updates main restricted universe multiverse08:25
p07r0457#08:26
p07r0457deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted universe multiverse08:26
p07r0457#08:26
p07r045708:26
p07r0457#08:26
p07r0457#deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat testing main08:26
transgressp07r0457: it's called a fucking pastebin08:26
Danko3p07r0457: please paste to a pastebin, and paste the URL to the channel....08:26
Danko3http://pastebin.com08:26
Danko3im off.08:26
Danko3good luck!08:26
p07r0457sorry08:27
p07r0457any ideas?08:27
transgresswell in case you missed it... search j2re in synaptic08:27
ubermonziedear Danko3  i use the above lines, and nothing is broken08:27
p07r0457not in synaptic08:28
transgressthen the java repo isn't in synapticv08:28
transgresserr in your sources08:28
ubermonzieand ram_einstein just told me he got his job done08:28
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ubermonziewhy dont you peole try sun.java.com08:28
transgressbecause the repo will work better08:28
geetergodcan someone tell me whats wrong when i try to start doom3 i get this...http://pastebin.com/29313308:28
p07r0457because java isn't the only package not found :rolleyes:08:28
p07r0457and the point of apt-get is to be useful08:29
ubermonziemay be you can get binaries.. agreed the repo will work better08:29
transgresslook...add the repo in that wiki, apt-get update... open synaptic, and search j2re08:29
transgressand ubermonzie STFU and try to be helpful.08:29
transgressof course he can get binaries... it's all that is offered08:29
ubermonziesame to you transgress08:29
geetergodcan someone tell me whats wrong when i try to start doom3 i get this...http://pastebin.com/29313308:29
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transgressgeetergod: what vid card?08:30
geetergodNVidia GeForce III08:30
transgressglxinfo | grep direct08:31
transgresswhat's that give?08:31
geetergodthat should run Doom3 correct?08:31
ubermonziehey transgress , my glxinfo gives me a segmentation fault08:31
ubermonziewhat should i do?08:31
transgressglxinfo segfaults?08:32
ubermonzieyes08:32
transgressumm08:32
JohnFightscan anyone help me get my gnome working again on my one  user account it just keeps trying to load the menu/taskbar over and over when it first starts08:32
transgresslike immediately?08:32
p07r0457http://pastebin.com/29313608:32
TycheShuddertrix: Do you know how to configure hula once installed?08:32
p07r0457that's what I'm using as my sources.list08:32
p07r0457j2re still not found08:32
ubermonzieand i manually upgraded from Warty to hoary (by changing the repos and download via apt-get)08:33
transgressJohnFights: try moving the .gconf2 and .gnome2 folders to somewhere else ... it'll start gnome back with the basic shit08:33
JohnFightsthanks transgress i will try that08:33
geetergodtransgress: think its something up with my vid card?08:33
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transgressp07r0457: you still don't have the java repo's08:34
ellsanyone here using gtkpod08:34
transgressgeetergod: what did glxinfo | grep direct say?08:34
sevetsexcellent08:34
sevetsVLC + frontend08:35
p07r0457where are they?08:35
sevetsworks08:35
p07r0457ubuntugude.org doesn't mention anything else08:35
geetergodglxinfo?08:35
transgressp07r0457: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java08:35
TycheHas anyone used PPTP VPN?08:35
geetergodgrep direct?08:35
transgressi never mention ubuntuguide... because i'm yet to not find a wiki08:35
transgressgeetergod:  at a console type in "glxinfo | grep direct" and it will return a line back to you.  show me that line08:35
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ellsanyone here using gtkpod08:36
geetergoddirect rendering: Yes08:36
geetergodi typed it in terminal08:36
transgressgeetergod: hmm okay08:36
transgressgeetergod: then it must have to do with the fact that it can't find that config file08:36
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ellslet me rephrase that, does anyone know how gtkpod actually works08:37
transgressgeetergod: updatedb and then locate "name of the .cfg at the end of that error"08:37
geetergodhmm..08:37
transgressgeetergod: ah yes... locate default.cfg08:37
geetergodfatal error: updatedb: You are not authorized to create a default slocate database!08:37
asynicgeetergod: sudo08:38
transgresssudo updatedb08:38
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geetergodk08:38
ram_einsteinwhat p2p doftware do you all use?08:38
ram_einsteinI had limewire on Fedora08:38
transgresswhat is this p2p?08:38
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ram_einsteinbut never liked it very much anyway08:38
ram_einsteinpeer to peer08:38
ram_einsteinlike kazaa08:39
transgressoh i use a phone to talk to my peers08:39
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ram_einsteinthat lets you download stuff like music08:39
transgresskazaa?  isn't that a genie from that arabic book?08:39
ram_einstein!08:39
uboturam_einstein: Are you smoking crack?08:39
geetergodit did nothing when i did sudo updatedb08:39
ram_einsteinubotu, no, why?08:39
uboturam_einstein: I give up, what is it?08:39
transgressit did... it just didn't say anything08:39
geetergoddidnt show anything anywya08:39
transgressgeetergod: now locate default.cfg08:39
ram_einsteinwhat's wrong with my question?08:39
geetergodjust 'locate defaul.cfg' or sudo?08:40
ram_einsteinall I wanted was something that lets me connect to other peers and download stuff like music08:40
transgressram_einstein: this is a help channel and not a pirates channel08:40
transgressjust locate will suffice08:40
ram_einsteintransgress, it's perfectly legal08:40
jorgpwhat is the name and password for cups?08:40
ram_einsteinthere's absolutely nothing wrong with it08:40
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transgressram_einstein: don't act like we are idiots08:41
transgressalthough i use bittorrent myself08:41
transgress;)08:41
ram_einstein... and how do I add a printer here?08:41
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ram_einsteinbittorrent id for torrents08:41
arc1quick question guys, what is the defult root login in ubuntu08:41
geetergod'locate default.cfg' did nothing08:41
ram_einsteinI want to connect to the eDonkey etc networks08:41
transgressgeetergod: that's your problem then... for some reason you don't have a file needed by doom308:41
geetergodhm08:42
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ram_einsteinwhat's "defulat root login" arc108:42
geetergodiiiiinteresting08:42
arc1yeah08:42
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arc1i guess what i thought i types in for my user password and what i guess i typed in is diffrent08:42
nernhey hey hey08:42
arc1so i cant log in08:43
nernwhat up with it gangstars08:43
ram_einsteinhow do I add a usb printer!?08:43
geetergodthat sucks08:43
ram_einsteinthe device manager lists it allright08:43
ram_einsteinbut how do I install it?08:43
nernhmm i have a usb printer but ive never tried to use it since i installed ubuntu since i never print anything... hmmm08:43
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SwordxlALguein vivo?08:44
ram_einsteinnern, any damn printer! how do I instal hardware here?08:44
ram_einsteinother than plug n' play stuff08:44
nernlemme look for a second08:44
ram_einsteingot it08:44
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ram_einsteinsorry08:44
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nernmain menu > system >admin > printing08:44
nerngot iy?08:45
ram_einsteinit was in system>admn08:45
ram_einsteinyeah08:45
nernYES08:45
geetergodtransgress: what do you recomend i do?08:45
ram_einsteinthanks08:45
p07r0457system > admin>printing08:45
nernme and you08:45
nernsee08:45
nernsame wavelength08:45
ram_einsteina little late in the day p07r045708:45
transgressgeetergod: i'd probably search on the cd for it08:45
p07r0457aye08:45
ws003hai  sopo neng kono08:45
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geetergodfor default.cfg?08:45
transgressyes08:45
geetergodk08:45
ram_einsteinhow do I view my pppoe connection? set up using pppoeconf08:46
ws003he kono kuwi sopo ? kok ra jawab-jawab08:46
ram_einsteinpoff turns it off08:46
ram_einsteinpon ? truns it on?08:46
geetergodI see a default.htm08:46
Tycheanyone here use hula for a MTA?08:47
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ram_einsteinhell-0! how do I view my pppoe connections!?08:47
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geetergodi did a search for default.cfg on the disk, nothing08:47
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transgresshmm08:48
JohnnyRottentransgress, thanks it worked :)08:48
transgressiuno... i haven't installed doom3... i didn't much like it08:48
transgressJohnnyRotten: np08:48
transgressJohnnyRotten: what did i fix for you?08:48
JohnnyRottenmy gnome wouldnt start08:48
=== [Spooky] have doom3 on Xbox :)
transgressJohnnyRotten: ah yes... i had the same problem two nights ago heh08:48
JohnnyRottenlol08:48
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JohnnyRotteni figured it was just something that could be deleted just didn't know what I should remove08:49
ram_einstein... okay if that question was too hard... how do I install k3b? apt-get install k3b provided I have the repos right?08:49
transgressyeah... technically you could probably clear it up w/o loosing your settings, but it's a PIA finding that one thing that is causing problems08:50
geetergodsudo apt-get install k3b08:50
ram_einsteink thanks geetergod08:50
geetergodsweet program ram_einstein08:50
ram_einsteinI ususally sudo su - before doing these tasks anyway08:50
JohnnyRotteni didn't lose much i only installed ubuntu a little while ago08:50
ram_einsteinI'm used to su -08:50
p07r0457well, I need sleep... goodnight everybody08:51
ram_einsteinfrom fedora08:51
djsram_einstein: ifconfig should show something about pppoe08:51
ram_einsteinyeah thanks djs08:51
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ram_einsteinby what mechanism is it activated at startup?08:52
ram_einstein... is kubuntu good?08:52
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JohnnyRottenare there any themes like the human defualt except blue or some other color08:52
djsi think you can set it to do so in the network applet08:52
ram_einsteinthere's a #kubuntu! I'll ask08:52
ws003hello is some one there?08:53
djsSystem -> Administration -> Networking08:53
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uber_monziehi alll08:53
ram_einsteinthat doesn't list anything djs08:54
ram_einsteinit only lists my network interfaces08:54
ram_einsteinnot connections08:54
ram_einsteincertainly not my ppp008:54
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Echelon-HI'm here.. but im noob :P08:56
JohnnyRottenis there a way to have gnome apps look nice in kde while still having gnome apps look like gnome apps in gnome?08:57
JohnnyRottenwhen i downloaded that qt deb it made the package manager look bad whine in gnome08:57
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transgressJohnnyRotten: umm... well when you go to kde it will keep the gnome theme you set for them... or should08:57
JohnnyRottenoops while08:57
geetergodtransgress, when i put glxgears into terminal i get this...08:58
geetergodgeetergod@cpe-66-24-86-121:~$ glxgears08:58
geetergod12049 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2409.800 FPS08:58
geetergodX connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).08:58
JohnnyRottenits not working that way :( lol08:58
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JohnnyRottenwhile i am in gnome they have a kde colors/look08:59
geetergoddoes that mean somethings not right transgress?08:59
transgressgeetergod: umm you have a video card problem... you get great FPS at first then it breaks your X... so i'd say something is definitely bad08:59
geetergodhm...08:59
JohnnyRottenit works okay while in kde08:59
geetergod13313 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2662.600 FPS08:59
geetergodX connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).08:59
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geetergodis that a good fps?08:59
transgressgeetergod: that tends to happen to me on my one box when i run out of ram08:59
tiglionabbithow do I add a command I want to be executed on startup by any account if accessed on my local machine, after x has finished setting up?08:59
geetergodwhat could be wrong? i play Americas Army fine09:00
transgressgeetergod: yeah that's damned good09:00
JohnnyRottenit will show the gnome theme/kde whatever i pick in kde but in gnome its messed up looking09:00
ws003some one want to see you09:00
geetergodany ideas what i should do?09:00
transgressno clue to be honest09:00
uber_monzie#09:01
uber_monzie    /msg nickserv set email manish_chaks@gmail.com09:01
geetergodhttp://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-51296.html09:01
geetergodcheck that out transgress09:01
geetergodthat dude has the same problem09:01
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ram_einsteinI have to import a couple of GPG keys09:01
JohnnyRottenis there a way to fix this W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net stable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B90709:01
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ram_einsteinplease help me do that09:01
geetergodi think the last post might tell what to do09:01
ram_einsteinW: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net stable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B90709:02
ram_einsteinW: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net unstable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B90709:02
ram_einsteinW: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net testing Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B90709:02
ram_einsteinsorry for pasting09:02
nerneven though it doesnt verify you should still be able to use it09:02
ram_einsteinhow do you import the GPG keys?09:02
nernit will just prompt you that it couldnt verify and do you want to proceed?09:02
ram_einsteinno nern09:02
transgressgpg --import-key09:02
nernno?09:02
transgressram_einstein: tell it to in the apt config09:03
ram_einsteintransgress, gpg --import-key what?09:03
ram_einstein*?09:03
geetergodsee that link transgress?09:03
transgressram_einstein: gpg --import-key keyfile.gpg09:03
ram_einsteininvalif option --import-key09:03
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ram_einsteinwhat's wrong?09:04
ram_einsteinman it and find out09:04
ram_einsteinone sec09:04
transgressgod hates you09:04
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geetergodlol09:04
geetergod "You need to copy pak000.pk4, pak001.pk4, pak002.pk4, pak$09:05
geetergod"pak004.pk4 from either your installation media or your h$09:05
geetergod"${dir}/base before running the game."09:05
geetergod"To play the game run:"09:05
geetergod" doom3"09:05
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geetergodthat guy says thats what u need to do09:05
transgressthen go for it09:05
ram_einsteincan't open keyfile09:05
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transgressnot like it can get anymore broken geetergod09:05
transgressi'm so not drunk. i don't touch alcohol09:05
syntaxmanWhich is newer, Hoary or Warty?09:05
nernalcohol is not my favorite09:06
geetergodhow do i copy those?09:06
ram_einsteinsudo gpg --import keyfile.gpg09:06
ram_einsteingpg: WARNING: unsafe ownership on configuration file "/home/lilram/.gnupg/gpg.conf"09:06
ram_einsteingpg: can't open `keyfile.gpg': No such file or directory09:06
ram_einsteingpg: Total number processed: 009:06
nernhoary09:06
transgressalthough pot grows in the earth.  so i don't mind it.09:06
nernwarty is the old one09:06
ram_einsteinwhat's wrong?09:06
JohnnyRottentransgress, do you know what might be wrong that themes dont show up right in gnome when that qt deb is installed?09:06
transgressgeetergod: cp *pk* might do it09:06
nernooooh i love me some pot09:06
nernthats my favorite thing ever09:06
ram_einsteincan someone give me decent repos?09:06
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ram_einsteink3b isn't on mine09:06
syntaxmannern: thanks... I assume I can just change my sources.list and upgrade in place as I could with debian, right?09:07
Nicnern, pot sucks09:07
transgresseh i need to try to make some tea with my pot... better than smoking it and supposed to lsat longer09:07
nernNic to each his own09:07
uber_monzieare there any other window managers available for GNOME other than metacity?09:07
transgressi think i'll do that tomorrow09:07
Nicit stinks like hell and its put mates if mine in psychiatric wards09:07
uber_monziei mean,, in the ubuntu package09:07
nernsyntaxman, yeah i was told that a dist upgrade does work from warty to hoary09:08
Nicif - of09:08
transgressNic: bullshit... they got something laced.09:08
JohnnyRottenk3b is in mine?09:08
Nicno they just smoked it day in day out for years09:08
uber_monziehey nern , i just perfomed one man..09:08
uber_monzieexcept a few minor quirks,, its woking..09:08
uber_monziethe only thing that is causing problems is xmms09:08
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transgressNic: yeah i know plenty of people like that... and they go to work each day... they live well each day... and they are fine.  pot doesn't have anything to cause breakdowns like that...09:09
nernuber_monzie: there is a step by step in the ubuntu forums someplace on how to replace metacity with openbox09:09
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ram_einsteinplease give me a repository with k3b!!!09:09
uber_monziethanks nern. will look it into it..09:09
Nicit can lead to depression and anxiety attacks09:09
transgressram_einstein: it's in hoary09:09
Niceverything in moderation i guess09:09
uber_monziebtw, is open box really better than metacity?09:09
nernthe universe and multiverse should be enabled and then you could get k3b for sure09:09
transgressNic: no... worrying about it will lead to that.  those who realize it isn't bad tend to do just fine.09:09
nerni wouldnt use openbox09:10
Nicwell my mate dosent think its bad09:10
transgressi'd use blackbox09:10
nerni like lightweight, but not that lightweight09:10
ram_einsteinit isn't transgress09:10
Nicand he was taken to a psychiatric ward by police09:10
nernmetacity is plenty lightweight for me09:10
ram_einsteinokay, I need a new apt.sources file quickly09:10
nernanything is better than fucking kde09:10
ram_einsteinmine's screwed09:10
Nicnow he still smokes it09:10
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nernlemme link you ram_einstein09:11
ram_einsteinjust get me a standard apt.sources file with decent repos09:11
nernsec09:11
Nicbecause he thinks it dosen affect him09:11
uber_monziexfce is good .. try it.. lightweight too ram_einstein09:11
ram_einsteinokay nern09:11
Razor-XI don't like Blackbox, personally09:11
Razor-XI like XFce09:11
kimoguys, I am facing a really wierd problem! I can not run any scripts! gives me "permission denied!"09:11
transgressthat's so funny, because i know quite a few people who take it to calm them down.09:11
ram_einsteinuber_monzie, I don't like xfce!09:11
uber_monziewhy ram_einstein ?09:11
uber_monzieits good09:11
ram_einsteinit certainly doesn't look nice09:11
Nici have mates that do that too09:11
JohnFightsi think xfce is looks nice09:11
uber_monzieinstall a decent theme.. or make your own.. but it's real fast09:12
Niclike i said everything in moderation09:12
transgressi know psychaitrists that tell their patients to do so09:12
ram_einstein:)09:12
uber_monziealthough i hate xffm ..09:12
Nici still hate the stuff tho09:12
ram_einsteinprobably09:12
uber_monziethats bad09:12
ram_einsteinI'll stick with gnome for now09:12
ram_einsteinanyway, I need a apt.sources file quickly09:12
Nicare u transgress off TA?09:12
uber_monzieenlightenment anyone?09:12
nernokay this may not look like much but it will tap you into lots09:12
nernhttp://pastebin.ca/1308109:12
transgressk3b is very much in the hoary repo09:12
ram_einsteinno enlightenent09:12
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ram_einsteinokay then give me a proper apt.sources file09:13
ram_einsteinmine is screwed09:13
nernhttp://pastebin.ca/1308109:13
nernhttp://pastebin.ca/1308109:13
ram_einsteinI screwed it09:13
nernthere09:13
kimoany help with this weirdo problem09:13
nernif you want the sources just copy those and make the deb in front deb-src09:13
transgressNic: TA?09:13
nerni dont bother with sources09:13
uber_monziewill paste it in your window ram_einstein09:13
Nicobviously not :P09:13
nernthats cuz i suck09:13
transgresswhat is TA?09:13
ram_einsteinthat's all I need nern?09:14
Nictranceaddict09:14
ram_einsteinokay uber_monzie09:14
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nernyeah thats the hoary main universe and multiverse shit there09:14
johnnybezakhey guys09:14
transgressah nope... not i.  although i do sometimes like trance... but i'm more of a bob marley, tool, RATM, mudvayne, dresden dolls type person09:14
nernk3b certainly be there09:14
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nerni use more than just that though, but i use the backports and no one else likes to do that09:15
nerni love me some backports09:15
johnnybezakbackports ey....09:15
ram_einsteinthat's my sources.list: http://pastebin.com/29314209:16
ram_einsteinis there anything wrong with it?09:16
uber_monziei just gave it to ya, ram_einstein09:16
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ram_einsteinya but it's too hard to copy09:17
nerni would just comment out or delete the cd just because you can get everything online, but thats up to you09:17
JasonFI'm trying to figure out what my USB Webcam identifies itself as09:17
JasonFso I can see if the spca5xx driver will work for it09:17
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JasonFI've seached /proc, and I can't find where to find info on attached USB devices09:17
transgressJasonF: did you try running lspci?09:17
geetergodggrrrr this is driving me nuts09:17
JasonFtransgress: only lists the USB controllers, not the devices09:17
geetergod "You need to copy pak000.pk4, pak001.pk4, pak002.pk4, pak$09:18
geetergod"pak004.pk4 from either your installation media or your h$09:18
geetergod"${dir}/base before running the game."09:18
geetergod"To play the game run:"09:18
geetergod" doom3"09:18
geetergodwhat the hell does this mean?09:18
transgressJasonF: ah you are right09:18
transgressJasonF: what type of cam?09:18
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geetergodcopy it? copy it and do what?09:18
JasonFtransgress: that's what I'm trying to figure out09:18
nernjust copy it i guess09:18
JasonFI have a list of USB identifiers that work with this driver09:18
transgressgeetergod: you need to copy it to where ever the game is installed to09:18
nernthose would be the big files the game reads09:18
JasonFI just need to get the one for my cam09:19
geetergodcopy what?09:19
transgressJasonF: do you at least know the brand?09:19
JasonFI know there's GOT to be a way to do it in linux09:19
JasonFit's a labtec09:19
nernso if you copy those into the game dir then you could run doom3 and play it09:19
JasonFbut I think it's really just a rebranded logiteck QC09:19
nerncopy the pk files09:19
JasonFthat's why I want to get the USB device ID09:19
ram_einsteinhow do I get a project planner?09:20
ram_einsteinit ws there on my office list09:20
ram_einsteinin add/remove programs gui09:20
ram_einsteinon my desktop computer09:20
ram_einsteinit isn't here09:20
ram_einsteinwhy?09:20
geetergodcopy 'pak000.pk4' and put it someplace?09:20
ram_einsteinwhat geetergod?09:20
ram_einsteinwhat's that file?09:20
nerncopy all those pk files it told you to, and copy them into the game base dir and then you should be good to go09:20
geetergodi dont know, heres what i have to do...09:21
ram_einsteinadd/remove programs lists some programs in my gnome menu09:21
geetergodYou need to copy pak000.pk4, pak001.pk4, pak002.pk4, pak$09:21
geetergod"pak004.pk4 from either your installation media or your h$09:21
geetergod"${dir}/base before running the game."09:21
geetergod"To play the game run:"09:21
geetergod" doom3"09:21
ram_einsteinbut it doesn't have project planner09:21
geetergodwhere are the pk files tho?09:21
ram_einsteinI want project planner09:21
nernon the cd09:21
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ram_einsteinhow do I get it on the add/remove programs list09:21
ram_einsteinhow do I take it from the cd!?09:21
nerncp command prolly09:22
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nernsorry im talking to geeter09:22
ram_einsteinah got it thanks nern!09:22
JasonFhah! I was correct09:22
JasonFlogitech quickcam in disguise09:22
nerni donno whats going on09:22
ram_einsteinall thanks to you I got my repos up too!09:22
ram_einsteinthanks a lot nern!09:22
nernyep09:22
nerni love the ubuntu repos09:22
geetergodpak000.pk4 wasnt found on the CD09:22
nernthey are so good09:22
nernfast and up to date09:23
nerndebian repos are weird09:23
ram_einstein:)09:23
nernlike even unstable is not up to date09:23
nernanyway09:23
nernim out09:23
ram_einsteinI'm out too09:23
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geetergodcan anyone help me here?09:24
m0r0ngeetergod, just ask your question09:25
geetergodwelp. im tring to play doom 3...09:26
geetergodUnknown command 'vid_restart'09:26
geetergodidRenderSystem::Shutdown()09:26
geetergodSys_Error: Couldn't load default.cfg09:26
geetergodi get that message at the bottom part of when i type 'doom3' in the terminal...09:26
geetergodhttp://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-51296.html09:26
geetergodthis is the exact problem i have in that link09:26
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Danko3hey, so what was up with that, we haev  new users, it seems:)09:27
Tycheanyone use webmin?09:27
geetergodif u go to that link it'll be the same prob i have.09:27
geetergodexept my fps is a lot higher than that09:28
Danko3geetergod: is that a native linux version of doom3?09:28
geetergodi dunno09:29
BurgundaviaDanko3, yes09:29
JohnFightswhat are some good theme sites for gnome/kde and stuff like customizing09:29
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geetergodi dont understand what the persons trying to say here...09:30
geetergod "You need to copy pak000.pk4, pak001.pk4, pak002.pk4, pak$09:30
geetergod"pak004.pk4 from either your installation media or your h$09:30
geetergod"${dir}/base before running the game."09:30
geetergod"To play the game run:"09:30
geetergod" doom3"09:30
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BurgundaviaJohnFights, gnome-look.org09:30
geetergodi have pak002.pk4 on the CD09:31
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guptanis it safe to install newer pango release from tar ball? ( I need to some character rendering for indic fonts)09:32
bigfootwhich is the fastest-loading pre-installed program for plain-text files?09:33
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prasyshello guys09:33
prasysgot question09:33
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bigfootHow do I remove some of the applications listed in the "Open With..."  dialog window?09:33
prasysfirst of all I am using uBuntu err, both on x86 and ppc09:33
prasysi got a question09:33
JohnFightspico?vim?09:33
bigfootJohnFights, were you talking to me? if so, are pico and vim faster loading than gedit?09:34
JohnFightsnano09:34
JohnFightsyes09:34
prasyscan i install kubuntu on vpc 7 for OSX09:34
prasysi need to compile x86 builds on the mac09:35
JohnFightsthey all load fast09:35
prasyson the go09:35
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ws003hallo is your name really aziz?09:35
icemananyone use windowmaker ... i need to reconfig it to run at 800x60009:35
bigfootRegarding, the "Open With" window, for example, I don't think I 'll ever be opening a file with Frozen Bubble, or any of the other games. So please tell me how to remove some of the entries from the list? (While keeping the programs on my system, of course!)09:35
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geetergodsomeones gotta be able to help me :)09:36
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Stalagna?? Can someone help me get my .mpg's to play?09:36
guptanWhy does ubuntu  call it libpango* while other distros  refer to it as09:37
guptanpango? and why is it version1.0 not 1.2 in hoary?09:37
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sri__breezy broken again09:38
sri__!09:38
ubotusri__: Wish i knew09:38
sri__!09:38
dmoyneI want to pursue my bug investigation with CUPS and Ubuntu ; anyone to help ?09:38
Danko3Burgundavia: yes what, his version is natuive linux doom3?09:38
BurgundaviaDanko3, there is a native doom3 version for linux09:38
prasyswhat09:38
BurgundaviaDanko3, I think you can download the client from the website09:38
prasysnative version09:38
Danko3well, I was asking him if he ahd that one...09:39
geetergodhow do i tell?09:39
StalagnaAny ideas how to play MPG movies?09:39
sri__ubotu /etc/X11/X is not executable ... when starting X09:39
ubotu...but /etc/x11/x is already something else...09:39
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dmoyne    I want to pursue my bug investigation with CUPS and Ubuntu ; anyone to help ?09:39
sri__ubotu .. yes symlink .. which finally repeats09:39
ubotusri__: I don't know, could you explain it?09:39
bigfootany fast-loading non-terminal/console program to read text files? Coz VIM and Nano are very fast to load, but it's hard to do editing, such as select all and delete? JohnFights09:39
geetergodDanko3: how do i check if i have the native version?09:40
sri__ubotu /etc/X11/X -> /usr/bin/X11/Xorg -> ../../X11R6/bin/Xorg -> (points itself)09:40
ubotuYou are moron #1, sri__09:40
athlondoes regular user need rsyncd ? I am trying to speed up ubuntu's start up time. I wonder if removing rsyncd from rc2.d is a good idea.09:40
bob2sri__: dude, it's a bot09:41
Danko3geetergod: where had you gotten it from?09:41
bigfootI was thinking Gedit, but i wonder if there's any program  that loads faster... thanks.09:41
bob2athlon: no, you don't, it's safe to remove it09:41
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geetergodI have the retail CD09:41
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bob2athlon: but it doesn't run by default anyway, unless you edit /etc/default/rsync09:41
bob2sri__: dude, ubotu is a BOT09:41
athlonokay, thanks09:41
sri__bob2 :O09:41
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Danko3nice:)09:42
sri__ubotu stfu09:42
uboturumour has it, stfu is Shut The Fuck Up, or see also http://people.debian.org/~branden/humor/the_real_official_motto.jpeg09:42
sri__haha09:42
geetergodand Shuddertrix gave me the command to type in terminal to downloaded the Doom3 linux installer09:42
athlonrofl09:42
ws003hai ziz why dont you answer me ?09:42
Danko3awesome, please dont abuse the bot, sorry he is a little rude, I am about to reteach it manners...09:42
Stalagnacan someone help me get my MPG's to play09:42
Danko3!restricted09:42
ubotuwell, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats09:42
geetergodDanko3: you have any ideas what I should do?09:43
Danko3Stalagna: please visit the URL ubotu gave you.09:43
Danko3geetergod: you have a retail cd of doom3?09:43
geetergodyes09:43
bob2cafuego: might want to unload the dpkg db there :)09:43
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Danko3bob2: cafuego is not speaking, who did you mean?09:44
Danko3geetergod: ok, well, does it say on it what OS it is for?09:44
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bob2Danko3: ?09:44
bob2Danko3: I meant cafuego, since he's runing ubotu.09:44
Danko3what do you mean by running?09:45
geetergodDanko3: where will it say?09:45
Danko3on the box.09:45
geetergodk09:45
bob2Danko3: as in it is running on a machine of his09:45
Danko3bob2: I still dont see why you said his name, I guess for when he scans the channel for messages?09:45
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freewoodyHow do I get Samba running on my LAN09:45
sri__oops, getting fed up with this shit ...09:45
sri__breezy09:45
geetergodPc CD-ROM     Windows 2000/XP09:45
bob2freewoody: pick. one. channel.09:45
geetergodDanko3: u mean that?09:46
bob2Danko3: his client will show it to him when he returns09:46
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Danko3bob2: Ah, yes, you are correct, I have somethingt to talk to you about teh bot, tho...09:46
Danko3sri__: um, please dont swear?09:46
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sri__dpkg: error processing twm09:47
sri__how to see what happened?09:47
sri__logs?09:47
bob2sri__: scroll up09:47
sri__at least somebody could help me fix this09:47
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sri__bob2 nothing printed09:47
bob2sri__: yes, something else was printed09:47
sri__subprocess post-installation script returned with exit code 209:47
sri__just that09:47
bob2no, scroll up further09:48
bob2and paste the whole thing to #flood09:48
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sri__ok .. one line is there09:48
johnnybe1akhey guys09:48
geetergodDanko3: you know how i should install it?09:48
Danko3bob2: well, I was gonna say dont upload dpkg on it, but...you can do that for a start, somewhat, and !moron needs to be removed... I would like to get involved with training  the bot, and I will. I work for Comcast tech support and I think I have some skills, and I think I could teach the bot nice, I have some ideas.09:48
sri__update-alternatives: slave link name /usr/share/man/man1/x-window-manager.1.gz duplicated09:48
sri__bob2 that one09:48
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bob2sri__: so, when I said "scroll up" and you said "nothing printed", what did you mean?09:49
Danko3please join #cedega, geetergod, and ask them if they know, I asked if you can ask the other day, they said, sure, but taht you should consider using the naticve linux version09:49
johnnybe1akwhat is the lowest memory use browser?09:49
sri__bob2 ok, now how to fix this?09:49
johnnybe1ak(not links :))09:49
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bob2sri__: please, in future, be more careful09:49
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sri__bob2 ok09:50
sri__enough giving advice09:50
safezonehi room09:50
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geetergodwhere can i join #cedega?09:50
bob2sri__: sudo update-alternatives --config x-window-manager09:50
sri__what do you mean by slave link duplicated?09:50
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safezoneany one know the commad to change password09:50
bob2safezone: passwd09:50
Danko3bob2: I believe we should have a polite bot, and you will agree:) anyhow, I think that we need to make the channel better, as you said, but, still differrent from debian, cause what, we dont wanna be exactly like them, and I dont think a lot of dpkg's phrases are very "ubuntu" I am really psyched about training this bot...09:50
bob2safezone: but it's best not to change the root password09:50
Danko3geetergod: /join #cedega09:50
bob2Danko3: yes, I think it'd be better to start with a blank db, and more polite error messages09:51
geetergodk09:51
sri__bob2 yes, did that .. but stil getting *same* error09:51
safezonei don't know it thats why i need to change it09:51
bob2safezone: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo09:52
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bob2safezone: there's no need to change or set it09:52
Danko3not only that, but, even more informative than some, yeah, I mean, I cant saay it all in 2 words, now, I am even planning on sending yuo guys at canonical an email, I think I would be a fairly good person to train the bot, since I havce customer service skills, and so on... tech support, and that...09:52
safezonethen how can i change it09:52
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bob2safezone: why do you want to change it?09:52
safezonei need to log as root09:52
bob2safezone: what are you trying to do?09:52
bob2safezone: why?09:52
safezonei need to log as root09:52
bob2Danko3: anyone can train it09:52
bob2safezone: why do you need to login as root?09:52
Danko3no, sure, but, not as good as me:-p is what I mean...09:52
safezonechange resolution09:52
psychonate3:52 AM, and I have finals today heh09:52
Choubakasafezone: use sudo09:53
bob2safezone: you don't need to login as root to do that09:53
bob2Danko3: we are not going to have a bot only you can change, sorry09:53
sri__bob2 i did --remove-all . .. andnow it worked09:54
bob2sri__: cool09:54
bob2I wasn't sure if that was safe or not09:54
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sri__bob2, but now when I run 'startx' it says /etc/X11/X is not executable (same cyclic link problem)09:54
bob2Danko3: I would encourage you to add useful things to both the bot and the wiki, now, tho09:54
athlonsafezone, just do "sudo su" if you really want to get root shell09:54
bob2sri__: please tell me you're not using breezy09:54
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bob2sri__: because then I will have to be all annoyed at you09:54
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bob2safezone: if you really think you need a root shell, "sudo -s" will get you one, once you're logged in as your normal user09:55
Danko3bob2: hehe, no, that is not what I meant...just I am sure you have admins that monitor it somehow, (for dpkg, ubotu is new, you prolly dont) and I dont expect you to let me admin it right away, off course I need to show you I am worth something... but I have the will and some ideas, anyhow, as it is open source:) we will all work on it, and synergyze  on it, however you spell that word.09:55
sri__bob2 I am using breezy09:55
ilba7rbob2 hi do you know of any good pdf editor under linux09:55
bob2sri__: so, you should know to search the mailing list archives yourself then09:55
bob2sri__: breezy is expected to be broken for the near future, please don't use it if you don't want to fix things yourself09:56
sri__bob2 first mistake09:56
bob2ilba7r: I only know of one very basic one called "panda", but I'm not sure if it's usable or not09:56
Danko3bob2: hey you like my nick? it is kinda similar to yours...09:56
Tallia1hei guys, sometimes i has  a problem with the latest version of firefox.. but reading on a forum i've found that could be a problem due to the changing i've made from gnome to kde..09:56
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ilba7rthanx bob2 i found that kword of the koffice do it but the fonts rendering is so bad thanx for your feedback09:57
bob2Danko3: the people (if any) who monitor it do not have any special abilities to modify data09:57
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bob2Danko3: just using the regular IRC interface to add and alter factoids is all I'd expect anyone (including myself) to ever have to do09:57
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Danko3bob2: well, that should be obvious why it sucks, not being able to limit who can abuse whatever he wants into the bot...09:57
bob2Danko3: dpkg is maintained like that, except in cases of extreme abuse09:57
sri__bob2 me on console, give me some hint09:58
freewoodyWell Debian and Ubuntu are almost the same channel09:58
bob2Danko3: people who abuse the bot will be banned from using it, and people who abuse others in here, directly or via the bot will be removed from here, too09:58
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Danko3bob2: I just think you didnt hear the part where I said I deal with 60ish customers every day, all for tech support...09:58
bob2safezone: please don't /msg me09:58
sri__bob2 ok, how reinstall (without removing in middle) a package?09:58
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bob2Danko3: that's great that you have skills like that, and they are certainly appreciated09:59
safezoneok  sorry09:59
bob2Danko3: I'm not sure why you think you need some special access to the bot, tho...I've never used my admin access for ubotu, and I don't have admin access to dpkg.09:59
safezonebut how do i cahnge resolution from shell09:59
bob2and I like to think I can be helpful sometimes ;p09:59
bob2safezone: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:59
bob2sri__: reinstall = deleting partition contents and reinstalling everything from scratch10:00
Danko3bob2: also, very hard to define abuse, how will you react when people start replacing wiki entries with ubuntuguide.org no, never said special access, just for stuff like aI just said, to be able to keep the bot in a state as it is, perhaps only allow appending to everyone, not overwriting for example !restricted10:00
Danko3do you get where I am coming from with that?10:00
Danko3I need no special access.10:01
Danko3for one, for other, I dont think that the bot at debian can not be made better.10:01
Danko3so, I would like to try, is all.10:01
Danko3Just wanted to announce to you:)10:01
Danko3stop turning me away!...jj.10:02
bob2I know dpkg's database coule be improved, and I hope ubotu is not abused10:02
sri__bob2 i just need the /usr/X11R6/bin/Xorg executable10:02
schasiWhat is ubotu?10:02
sri__stupid bot10:03
Danko3good stuff, anyhow, a cat I have here for keeping just puked all over my bed:( haha,...stupid girl she fed the cat milk...I hate people that do that...10:03
bob2sri__: dpkg -L xserver-xorg | grep bin10:03
Danko3well, she had good intentions, I guess.10:03
sri__bob2 i know, that package has it .. but unfortuantely it installs symlink, instead of the executable file10:04
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johnnybe1akhey10:06
herpeshi10:06
johnnybe1aksorry just thought the net dropped off10:06
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Danko3herpes, Id say hi, but dunno if Ill get infected.10:06
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Danko3JaneW: :)10:07
jsgotangcoJaneW, hi10:07
JaneWhi jsgotangco10:07
JaneWherpes, catchy nick!10:07
Danko3haha, come one.10:07
Danko3on10:07
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Danko3you guys make me laugh, many thanks...:)10:08
JaneWherpes, so you do viruses then?10:08
herpesJaneW, i stay away from them if i can help it10:09
sri__bob2 could you please send me your Xorg executable? (through dcc send)10:10
bob2no10:10
sri__:(10:10
bob2if nothing else, I'm using hoary10:10
sri__bob2, no send that10:10
bob2no10:10
bob2you can download that yourself10:11
johnnybe1akhow do i configure the colours in my xterm?10:11
freewoodybob2, are you in Ubuntu too ?10:11
bob2I'm not going to encourage people on IRC to run random executables from strangers10:11
sri__bob2 i dont want to download the entire package, as i dont have enough bandwidth now10:11
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sri__bob2 or how can I download the executable file alone?10:11
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Danko3now, bob2, watch...10:12
Danko3!DSL10:12
bob2sri__: it's 6MB.10:12
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sri__bob2 bzip size?10:12
Danko3ok, well, I should haev saved that long typing out, since it did not work...10:12
sri__bob2 no, even 6mb is too much10:13
bob2sri__: ok.10:13
DalkusMy monitor suddenly just....switched off, and no matter what I do, I cant get any power into it. I've tried using several differnt leads from several differnt plugs10:13
DalkusI can't beleive the monitor died.... It has been fine and shown no signs of dying10:13
sri__bob2 send me Xorg file alone10:13
DalkusAny advice please?10:13
bob2no, sorry, I'm not going to send it10:13
Danko3bob2: umm...you said, /msg ubotu foo is bar ? did not work, I think.10:13
Danko3ubotu: DSL10:13
bob2and you shouldn't be running binaries from people you don't know on IRC10:13
sri__damn10:14
bob2ubotu: foo is bar10:14
ubotu...but foo is already something else...10:14
johnnybe1akDalkus: sometimes these things are sudden, did your monitor have funeral insurance?10:14
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bob2Danko3: perhaps it has you on /ignore10:14
Dalkusjohnnybe1ak, nope - you think it died?? It was fine! :\10:14
Danko3I have him open, he sends me messages.10:14
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litroHELLO10:14
johnnybe1akDalkus: haha i dont know, sounds dead to me though10:14
segewhich is the next version of ubuntu and how stable is it? getting tired of stable old hoary =)10:14
Dalkusmrph, well - thanks10:14
Danko3but not the one I just typed out a long thing for:( and didnt copy and paste... Ill read the bloot bot docs, later...10:14
bob2sege: breezy, and no, it's not stable10:15
freewoodybob2, are you there ?10:15
bob2sege: please read the /topic10:15
bob2freewoody: no10:15
johnnybe1aksege: read the topic10:15
litrosomebody speak spanish?10:15
bob2litro: #ubuntu-es10:15
freewoodybob2, please check my Exim log at: http://pastebin.com/29315410:15
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bob2freewoody: pick. one. channel.10:15
Danko3!ara los usuarios ubuntu habla hispa?a que requieren la ayuda, ensamble por favor el canal del #ubuntu-es10:15
ubotuYou are moron #2, Danko310:15
Danko3thanks.10:15
freewoodyI prefer Ubuntu10:15
Danko3this one even counts who is which number...10:16
TycheIs there some sort of ubuntu firewall that would hinder connections to ports?10:16
Tycheeven if they are open using "nmap locahost"10:16
athlonTyche, iptables ?10:16
phendhi all. does anyone know any decent tutorials for writing threaded apps with python?10:16
Fator_DeeTyche: not by default10:16
dbernar1_!DSL10:16
litrothanks10:17
litrobut10:17
bob2phend: avoid if at all possible10:17
phendbob2, my task in work today is to learn how to do it :/10:17
bob2phend: ouch :)10:17
freewoodyCan somebody check if my Exim config is Ok:  http://pastebin.com/29315610:17
phendbob2, hehe10:17
phendbob2, how come you don't like it?10:17
bob2freewoody: please stop it10:17
bob2freewoody: you're not using ubuntu10:17
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freewoodyWell I am using Ubuntu on my Home PC10:18
litrosomebody know some web with ubuntu's package aplications?10:18
segebob2, johnnybe1ak: i know it isn't 'stable', i wondered how unstable it is, hoary was usable and nice in december i think so it should be possible to use the next one soon. =)10:18
bob2sege: broken as in X doesn't start and it wasn't possible to login via a terminal for a few days10:18
freewoodyhey bob2, help me this once with the Exim thing? I will get this job if I did things right10:18
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bob2sege: wait a while, there will be an anouncement when it's ready for user testing10:18
Danko3freewoody: I never seen that file, I dont know how it should look, try at the channel of the distro it is for.10:18
segebob2: haha, oki then, i'll wait a while ;)10:19
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bob2phend: twisted python just seems nicer10:19
freewoodyDoes nobody here uses Exim Mail Server ???10:19
bob2and you can't deadlock it, etc10:19
phendbob2, never heard of that10:19
freewoodyI am surprised10:19
bob2freewoody: you have been warned numerous times10:20
Danko3oh, its a exim program, not a distro, tried man exim?10:20
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bob2phend: www.twistedpython.com, do multiple things at once without threads10:20
phendbob2, cool, i'll take a look10:20
athlonthere is an exim distro ?10:20
Choubakano :P10:20
Danko3dunno, never heard of exim.10:20
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bob2it's a MTA, like postfix10:20
smith|offglassesumm10:21
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smith|offglassesold yhings10:21
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Danko3no, Ive aptitude searched since we talked about it...10:21
smith|offglassess/yhing/thing10:21
Danko3right, got that, smith|offglasses.10:21
smith|offglasses...10:21
liz4rdhow do i install xfce410:21
Danko3sudo aptitude install xfce410:22
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tiglionabbitwhen I try to run xmame fullscreen, it crashes and says "XDGA: info: found 1 modes: OSD: Info: Ideal mode for this game = 304x224.  no suitable mode found.  X11: Warning: Couldn't create display for new x11-mode10:22
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freewoodybob2, have you looked at my Exim config file ?10:22
Danko3nice, I got an idea:)10:22
tiglionabbithow do I add a mode to xorg to appease this?10:22
smith|offglasses(and you got a suck xfce4)10:22
bob2freewoody: I answered you in #debian, now leave this channel or be quiet10:23
JohnnyRottenare there any programs for ubuntu like google/msn desktop search10:23
Danko3no, he will get it, are you trolling by any chance, smith|offglasses?10:23
bob2JohnnyRotten: beagle, but it's not quite ready10:23
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liz4rdhow do i change the root pass?10:23
tiglionabbitwhy does everyone ask that?10:24
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Danko3hey, that smith guy was from my country...10:24
bob2phend: heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/%7Ematloff/Python/PyThreads.pdf10:24
tiglionabbitliz4rd: sudo passwd, if you must know10:24
bob2liz4rd: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo10:24
Danko3liz4rd: if that command asked you for a password, it asked you for yours, btw.10:24
JohnnyRottenbob2, is the a place to download a deb of it to try it out?10:24
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bob2liz4rd: it's also in the FAQ, and the installer popped up a screen about it during the install, which you had to say "ok" to10:24
freewoodybob2, can't you help me out with this Exim thing ?10:24
liz4rdwell it wont change my pass10:25
liz4rdfor su10:25
tiglionabbitbob2: really?  I don't recall that, and I've done several installs with people10:25
athlonfreewoody, maybe #exim would be a better place to ask10:25
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my_haz_hello i am tring to install ash10:26
bob2liz4rd: read the wiki page I told you about10:26
tiglionabbitanyway, xorg, how do I add a proper mode for 304x224?10:26
my_haz_when i say sudo apt-get install ash10:26
marck1dears, I have a problem with Hoary on a Pc. When I attach my USB key the system hang. If I unplug the key.. nothing change and I need to violently reboot. How can i resolve this kind of things?10:26
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my_haz_its says that it can't find it, what should i do10:26
dbernar1_marck1, please consider anger management for the violent reboots, I dont know how to fixc the issue with the computer tho;)10:26
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bob2my_haz_: wiki.ubuntu.com/SyanpticHowto, it's in the universe repository10:27
marck1dbernar1_, dunno should i do, probably related to acpi.. a parameter passed on boot.10:27
my_haz_bob2: thanks i will have a look10:28
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Danko3http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SynapticHowto my_haz_10:28
mpattonubuntu rules...sorry just had to say that10:28
Danko3bob2: just one letter wrong, is all...10:28
Danko3so he does not ask you again...10:28
johnnybe1akhey guys i'm using fluxbox as my WM, and I wan't the gnome icons/etc to work. normally i put "gnome-settings-daemon" in my .xsession but for some reason that's not working. any ideas?10:28
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bob2johnnybe1ak: you mean on the desktop?10:29
Danko3mpatton: please go to a channel where they like ubuntu, and say stuff like that;)10:29
bob2JohnnyRotten: searc the wiki (wiki.ubuntu.com) for Beagle, there's a page explaining how to get it on hoary10:29
marck1anyone knows parameters for linux boot to resolve system hang when plug a usb key?10:29
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JohnnyRottenokay thanks10:29
Danko3marck1: just give some time.10:30
bob2marck1: try noacpi and noapic10:30
mpattonjust testing irc...take care all10:30
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johnnybe1ak@bob2: um im not sure i get you10:31
Danko3ubotu qotd1 is '(03:28:48) mpatton: ubuntu rules...sorry just had to say that ... (03:29:36) Danko3: mpatton: please go to a channel where they like ubuntu, and say stuff like that;)'10:31
ubotu...but qotd1 is already something else...10:31
Danko3 ubotu qotd2 is '(03:28:48) mpatton: ubuntu rules...sorry just had to say that ... (03:29:36) Danko3: mpatton: please go to a channel where they like ubuntu, and say stuff like that;)'10:31
ubotu...but qotd2 is already something else...10:31
bob2johnnybe1ak: what do you want to do?10:31
Danko3ok, enough, I know.10:31
bob2Danko3: a) that's not very quotable, b) do it in /msg10:31
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Danko3bob2: youre just jellaous noone picked your quote for teh day...10:31
johnnybe1ak@bob2: just run gnome-settings-daemon so that the themes work in my apps10:32
johnnybe1ak@bob2: when I log in to flux10:32
Danko3!qotd310:32
ubotuams | bob2, And you are amazingly stupid.10:32
bob2Danko3: you picked your own quote of the day10:32
bob2johnnybe1ak: oh, right10:32
Danko3bob2: dont you get jokes?10:32
Danko3bob2: why did the bot just diss you.10:33
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liz4rdhow would i install xfce4?10:33
liz4rdthrew apt-get?10:33
johnnybe1akyo10:33
johnnybe1akapt-get install xfce410:33
Danko3liz4rd: did sudo aptitude install xfce4 fail?10:33
bob2liz4rd: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto, it's in the universe repository10:33
johnnybe1akor whatever is called10:33
bob2Danko3: this is exactly why I didn't want a bot10:33
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Danko3bob2: we will work on it.10:34
Danko3we=I, me...10:34
bob2Danko3: you're the person who is currently misusing it10:34
johnnybe1akwho wanted a bot10:34
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Danko3bob2: get off my case already with the bot...10:34
bob2wtf10:34
Danko3I didnt tell it anything, ubotu: ams | bob2, And you are amazingly stupid.10:34
Danko3I didnt specify that...10:35
johnnybe1akplay nicely children spread the ubuntu10:35
tiglionabbityou could have a bot like dpkg that tells which repositories whatever package is in10:35
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Danko3I  just wanna see, and you shoul dlearn more than 5 negative terms, already10:35
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bob2Danko3: please just stop using it in the channel10:35
bob2tiglionabbit: it does that already!10:35
tiglionabbitoh10:35
tiglionabbitthen why don't we use it?10:35
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bob2tiglionabbit: you can!10:35
tiglionabbitokay cool, how?10:36
bob2ubotu: info ash10:36
bob2ok, it's still set to /msg that to people10:36
bob2instead of saying itin the channel, but it does work10:36
Danko3bob2: thats more constructive feedback, at least I know what you mean, anyhow, there is good use for the bot in the channel, and I am trying to learn how to use it, I am not "abusing" it, that is what i meant when I said you should learn moer than 5 negative terms, its not all black and white bob2.10:37
X7Chow can i reconfig grub but using the ncurses interface?10:37
Danko3anyhiow, thanks.10:37
Amaranthbob2: it PMs you if the output is too long10:37
X7Ci mean the auto config thingie....10:37
Amaranthbob2: > 128 chars, iirc10:37
bob2Amaranth: hm, the limit is set too low then, I guess10:37
Amaranthubotu: info python-xdg10:37
IIIEarsinfo Canonical10:37
Amaranthyes, too low10:37
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Amaranthand it shouldn't tell me it's updating ubuntu files, it should just do it10:38
Amaranthcafuego: ping?10:38
tiglionabbitinfo w32codecs10:38
bob2cafuego: can you up the "switch to /msg mode" limit a bit? things like "info ash" should come into the channel10:38
Amaranthbtw, it doesn't tell you if it's in universe10:38
Danko3ubotu info mplayer10:38
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bob2cafuego: (and thanks again!)10:39
tiglionabbitubotu info vlc10:39
bob2Amaranth: yeah it does10:39
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Amaranthbob2: did you ever figure out how to authenticate with it?10:39
Amaranth<ubotu> unfortunately, debian is disabled in my configuration <--wtf10:40
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liz4rddammit i cant change the root password10:40
tiglionabbitubotu info mplayer10:40
bob2liz4rd: yes, you can10:40
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bob2liz4rd: you've been told 4 ways to find out how10:40
tiglionabbitubotu info xmame-x10:40
bob2liz4rd: and someone told you directly10:40
tiglionabbit=\10:40
tiglionabbitdoes too exist10:41
Amaranthtiglionabbit: pm the bot, please10:41
bob2liz4rd: and you don't need to change it, anyway10:41
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tiglionabbitAmaranth: when I do that, it asys "unfortunately, debian is disabled in my configuration"10:41
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guptanwhy do we have libpango version 1.0 in ubuntu but pango.org showing current stable version 1.2.5?10:41
liz4rdwhy is there no use for it?10:41
Amaranthtiglionabbit: then don't use it, please don't spam us with commands10:41
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lewwylol10:42
tiglionabbithey, I was just testing it out10:42
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lewwyjudging by the topic10:42
Danko3Amaranth: please tell me the syntax to make the bot only see what I am asking it...10:42
lewwylots of ppl have been using breezy10:42
lewwyand it blows10:42
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lewwycorrect?10:42
Amaranthit breaks things10:42
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lewwyhmmm10:42
bob2lewwy: things are broken10:42
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bob2lewwy: then they complain10:42
lewwyi still cant figure out why if its broken10:42
bob2lewwy: just don't use it yet10:42
lewwythe beta is released10:42
lewwyim not intending to10:43
bob2lewwy: no, it's not10:43
lewwythe snapshot10:43
lewwyor whatev10:43
bob2lewwy: the very very very first alpha has been released10:43
lewwyah10:43
lewwyok10:43
lewwyfair enough then10:43
envelPlease help! After incorrect shutdown (reset pressed) the journal of my reiserfs system is not replayed ("... seems mounted read-only, skipping journal replay"). How to enable writing on boot?10:44
lewwyquick!10:45
lewwywhats the recurive version or rm?10:45
bob2-r...10:45
lewwyomg thx bob210:45
envelnobody knows it?10:46
bob2most people avoid reiser because of things like that10:46
lewwyuhh10:46
lewwyisnt reiser good because it keeps everything in the journal?10:46
bob2no10:47
envelext3 also has a journal10:47
bob2it doesn't keep everything in the journal10:47
lewwyor fast?10:47
bob2it is fast for some things, yes10:47
dbernar1_cafuego, your bot does not accept /msg commands, at least not as the dpkg one does...10:47
bob2dbernar1_: does for me10:47
envelwhy the journal replay is not working? it should10:47
Amaranthbob2: /msg ubotu info bzflag10:47
Danko3well, good for you, bob2:) it doesnt here, I tried the same command with the two bots. Ill do it one more time, just to make sure for you, k?10:48
envelwhy the file system is mounted read-only on boot10:48
bob2envel: because it's damaged10:48
bob2envel: I'd try asking on the user list so someone can give more comprehensive advice10:48
bob2Amaranth: I get the debian error message thing10:48
Amaranththis sounds like a good reason to not use reiserfs10:49
Amaranthbob2: exactly10:49
envelRRRRRR10:49
bob2cafuego: things like "info bzflag" return an error about "debian being disable in my configuration", do you know what's up with that?10:49
dbernar1_cafuego, yes, double checked, it does not accept my commands, through xchat, nor through gaim.10:49
Amaranthguys cafuego has been idle 7 hours10:49
bob2Amaranth: yes, and he will pick it up when he gets back10:49
Danko3ha, you getting involved with the bot, too, bob2?10:50
Danko3Great.10:50
bob2Danko3: ?10:50
Myrttihm, what file should I edit to change the applications that are used to open a file10:50
Amaranthwe're the ones that make sure you don't abuse it10:50
Danko3taking interest in getting it to work...10:50
AmaranthMyrtti: right click and choose open with10:50
envelThe journal replay in Ubuntu not working at all. Even after installing. Because root filesystem is mounted read-only.10:50
Danko3!info mplayer10:50
MyrttiAmaranth: that just adds applications10:50
bob2Danko3: I'm the fallback admin of it10:50
lewwydont use reiser10:50
MyrttiI want to remove an application I've added that way10:51
Amaranthbob2: so am i, did you ever manage to login?10:51
Fator_DeeMyrtti: you can change it there too10:51
lewwyredhat uses it10:51
drummer87hey, will SuperKaramba run fine in Gnome? and would the themes work as they would in KDE?10:51
lewwythats good enuff reason10:51
Danko3bob2: how come if you did not want it at all? just cause you are asssigned the channel?10:51
Fator_DeeMyrtti: there should be a remove button IIRC10:51
AmaranthDanko3: Yes, we are bot admins because it's a part of running the channel.10:51
bob2Danko3: I don't want it because I thought it would be abused (which is happening already).  if it's going to be here, it needs looking after, which is what Amaranth and I are trying to do.10:52
Myrttioh, it's in properties10:52
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bob2drummer87: they should do10:52
bob2drummer87: but there's a gnome equivalent called gdesklets10:52
Amaranthbob2: so, what was the secret to logging into the bot?10:52
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Danko3bob2: you are full of yourself, and I am geting full of you tonight,  maybe Im just stressed out...Ill ttyl...10:52
Danko3mayhbe I just dont get your conversational style...10:53
Fator_DeeAmaranth: what bot is it?10:53
lewwyyou are getting full of bob2 tonigh?10:53
lewwytonight*10:53
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Amaranthkinky10:53
drummer87bob2, i have that but the themes in superkaramba look better for a osx-like dock10:53
AmaranthFator_Dee: blootbot, i think10:53
dbernar1_meaning AIve had enough...10:53
bob2Amaranth: no, it seems to just listen to me10:54
bob2drummer87: ok10:54
Amaranthbob2: You can use all the commands?10:54
bob2Amaranth: afaict10:54
Amaranthbob2: i guess i never thought of just trying to use them10:54
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Amaranthtell Amaranth about info bzflag10:55
Amaranthhrm10:55
lewwy!info bzflag10:55
lewwyohhh10:55
lewwyso theres like10:55
lewwya bot in this chan10:55
lewwythat gives you info?10:55
lewwyon apps?10:55
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Amaranthsomething like that10:55
lewwyor should i stfu?10:56
lewwyah ok10:56
Amaranthit doesn't work right now when you PM it and you can't flood the channel giving it commands10:56
Amaranthso basically you can't use it10:56
lewwyhey!10:56
lewwyit works!10:56
lewwy!info mplayer10:56
lewwyhmmm10:57
lewwybzflag works10:57
lewwy!info nvidia-glx10:57
lewwyyeh it works perfectly10:57
lewwywhats the problem?10:57
lewwynvidia-glx and bzflag work10:57
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Amaranthlewwy: You're flooding the channel with bot commands.10:58
lewwyhmm10:58
lewwynot really10:58
lewwybut i suppose me x 1000 other newbies could be bad10:58
Fator_Deeif an op says so you are :-p10:59
lewwyhows about you info once, and then use the bot chat to use info10:59
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lewwywow10:59
lewwycopying under linux is super duper thrashing HDD10:59
lewwyoh and while i am here10:59
lewwycan anyone here please help me setup my tevion tv tuner card?10:59
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Yohnahhi all, the hoary have k8m800 unichrome support?11:00
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Myrttihrm.11:00
lewwyso can anyone please help me setup my tv tuner?11:01
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Fator_Deelewwy: have you tried if it just works out of the box?11:02
bob2lewwy: did you find out if linux supports it?11:02
lewwytv tuner works in winblows11:02
lewwyi am not sure if linux supports it11:02
Fator_Dee:-\11:02
lewwyits fairly new11:02
tiglionabbit!info vlc11:02
tiglionabbityes, messaging the bot does not work at all11:02
bob2lewwy: try googling for the card name and "linux"11:02
lewwycbf11:03
tiglionabbitwhen you message the bot, it says 'no idea'11:03
lewwysif!11:03
lewwymessaging works!11:03
bob2tiglionabbit: only if you ask it about something it doesn't know about11:03
lewwy!info vlc11:03
lewwy(19:03:40) ubotu: vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.1-1ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 4867 kB, Installed size: 11816 kB11:03
athlonhow do I test whether incoming and outgoing packet through a specific port isnt blocked by my ISP ?  (other than contacting the ISP)11:03
bob2athlon: get someone to send packets to that port11:03
tiglionabbit[msg(ubotu)]  !info vlc11:04
tiglionabbit[ubotu(~blootbot@ubuntu.cc.com.au)]  Wish i knew11:04
bob2tiglionabbit: don't start it with !11:04
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CJ7hey, am having a problem with resolution setting here - it seems to be stuck on 640x480...the monitor and video card are both capable of at least 1024x768, and this is also set in my xorg.conf, but it's still displaying 640x480.11:04
lewwyno need to shout11:04
athlonbob2, using "ping" command ?11:04
tiglionabbit[msg(ubotu)]  info vlc11:04
tiglionabbit[ubotu(~blootbot@ubuntu.cc.com.au)]  unfortunately, debian is disabled in my11:04
tiglionabbit          configuration11:04
Danko3lewwy: haha, he said dont start with "!"11:04
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lewwylol11:04
lewwyyeh11:04
CJ7Getting this error from the log file... "Not using mode "1024x768" No mode of this name exists" (or something like that).  Anyone got any ideas?11:04
lewwyi knew11:04
Danko3ah.11:04
lewwyjust a bit of a smartass11:04
Fator_Deewhat is the difference between all those terminal programs?11:04
sozihi11:05
bob2tiglionabbit: yes, cafuego will fix it11:05
Danko3!hi sozu11:05
ubotuDanko3: Wish i knew11:05
bob2Fator_Dee: some are slower than others11:05
tiglionabbitCJ7: in your file /etc/X11/xorg.conf it has a lot of display modes.  Add it11:05
bob2Fator_Dee: and others have better default colour schemes11:05
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bob2Fator_Dee: that's about it11:05
CJ7tiglionabbit, It is in there.11:05
sozican somebody help me plz  ? :)11:05
Fator_Deebob2: could you name a fast one for low resource machines?11:05
tiglionabbitit should have ntries for different color depths, each with a 'modes' string that has resolutions in order11:06
JohnnyRottendoes anyone know how to get the experience engine on art.gnome.org to work?11:06
bob2Fator_Dee: how low?11:06
Fator_Deebob2: 128meg ram 800mhz11:06
CJ7tiglionabbit, just a tick, I'll pastebin it, but I'm pretty sure I've got all that right...11:06
JohnnyRottenit says something like wrong version of lib611:06
Danko3sozi: not yet, first say what you need help with.11:06
Fator_Deebob2: the ram is the bottleneck I suppose :-p11:06
JohnnyRotten gtk2-engines-experience depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21); however:11:06
JohnnyRotten  Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13.11:06
sozii have problems with my printer :(11:06
bob2Fator_Dee: any will be fine11:07
bob2Fator_Dee: pterm is nice11:07
bob2JohnnyRotten: you need packages for it that work on ubuntu11:07
bob2JohnnyRotten: the ones you have do not11:07
lewwyso can anyone recommend a good tv tuner program?11:07
sozii buyed a hp color laserjet and it works fine but11:08
bob2lewwy: did you find out if it works at all?11:08
JohnnyRottenwhere can i find the one i need11:08
CJ7tiglionabbit, http://pastebin.com/29317611:08
CJ7see if you can spot what I'm missing...I'm pretty sure its all ok tho...11:08
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Myrttihm11:09
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JohnnyRottenalso is the a program that converts .ico to png11:09
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sozithe printers is unable to shut down the proces for the printed side so i must shut down by hand to print a new side11:09
sozisry for my bad english ^^11:09
bob2JohnnyRotten: "convert" from imagemagick will probably work11:10
sozican somebody help me ? :(11:10
tiglionabbitCJ7: um, looks set up right.  I don't know11:10
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CJ7hrm....anyone else got any ideas why my res would be stuck on 640x480 when the system is capable of more?11:11
tiglionabbitJohnnyRotten: the gimp can do it11:11
bob2nvidia or i810 video chipset?11:11
CJ7bob2 a bit older than that (if you're talking to me?) SiS 5597/5598 chipset.11:11
gir__DOH! Just upgraded to breezy and now I read the topic! Fuck11:11
bob2ouch11:11
tiglionabbityou can downgrade, right?11:12
bob2no11:12
gir__and I have trouble with it..11:12
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gir__I hope..11:12
Choubakatiglionabbit: You can, but it's more of a pain than re-installing11:12
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Fator_Deebob2: yea, pterm looks nice, and it's much faster in changing between channel windows in irssi than xfterm411:12
sozino idea @ my printerproblem ?11:13
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solani just added a additional hdd in my Ubuntu box11:14
solani want to format it to ext3 fs11:15
solanhow can i do that?11:15
Yohnahi need to know if ubuntu hoary support k8m800 unichrome cards. somebody know about it?11:15
Tallia1....... a defrag tool 4 linx?11:16
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Fator_DeeTallia1: you don't need onw11:17
Fator_Deeone11:18
Danko3solan do sudo fdisk -l and tell me which /dev/hdX the new hd is.11:18
floater_wodup! How do I scroll up in console ?11:18
Tallia1i need one for the fat32 partition11:18
Danko3ha, you dont, actually, floater_.11:18
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Danko3floater_: try using command | more that may be what you want to do.11:18
gir__Choubaka: so, you recommend a re-install? I don't feel like start all over =/11:19
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floater_Danko3: hmm how do I use it exactly11:19
Choubakagir__: Yes, I do recommend a re-install11:19
Danko3floater_: what command are you running exactly?11:19
tiglionabbitfloater_: shift-pageup11:19
floater_let's say if I ls a directory with millions of files11:19
john123123123how can i change the privlages11:19
gir__damn..11:19
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Choubakagir__: downgrading is a PITA11:19
Danko3tiglionabbit: nice.11:20
floater_I am running kubuntu without x window interface. Just in console. Then I would like to know an alternative file editing program for 'vi'11:20
john123123123keeps asking me to be the owner dont know how to do that please help11:20
Danko3nano, pico, others, floater_.11:21
tiglionabbitfloater_: shift-pageup.  But a better idea is ls | less to browse it in 'less'.  Then you can use the arrow keys, and hit q to quit11:21
marcel_Help! GTK1 apps have big fonts and i need to get them smaller. I used gtk-theme-switch, to no avail11:21
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floater_Which one comes with ubuntu and has simplest configuration for keys? pico?11:21
gir__Choubaka: I see..11:21
Danko3they all come, afaik.11:21
floater_tiglionabbit: ok11:21
tiglionabbitfloater_: pico or nano are simple.  I like emacs best though, but it takes learning11:22
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Fator_Deefloater_: nano is easy to learn11:22
tiglionabbitpico and nano are clones of eachother, so it probably doesn't matter which you use11:22
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floater_oki. I don't have internet connection on the machine, but I take it that nano and pico comes with the installation11:22
Fator_Deeyea11:23
floater_alrighty. What else I was about to ask hmm..11:23
tiglionabbitask anything.  A will to learn the terminal is always good in *nix land11:23
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floater_Yea, wonder if there's some good website that introduce some 'most common' commands and 'good to know' commands that I could print out. At least I think reading some log files are good if some problems occur. Like one was 'tail /var/log/messages/ or something11:24
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Tallia1once i use CUPS as preferred printing server can i disinstall the others?11:24
floater_to print out the last lines of that11:24
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tiglionabbithttp://dsl.org/cookbook/cookbook_toc.html11:25
Tallia1or i'll nedd em?11:25
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Tallia1need*11:25
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floater_oohh, nice nice, I'll try save this whole page, thanks11:27
john123123123keeps asking me to be the owner dont know how to do that please help11:27
Srngyou see, I know it sounds lame, but I've a problem with my homework :]  I've googled, I've tried everything I could think of but still couldn't work it out11:27
Srngthe question is11:28
Fator_Deejohn123123123: care to elaborate your current situation?11:28
dbernar1_john123123123, which files/directorues, and so on.11:28
tiglionabbitfloater_: why not just save the url?11:28
Srnghow can i echo 1st and 5th column of the /etc/passwd and sort it by the 5th column?11:28
john123123123fond a site that said to edit the config file for my wireless  pcmcia card11:28
MobyTurboSrng, use awk11:29
bob2Srng: awk or cut, and sort -k11:29
john123123123and i tried and keeps saying the owner needs to11:29
Srngthe first part's easy with cut11:29
tiglionabbithe probable needs the rootsudo wiki11:29
tiglionabbithttp://wiki.ubuntulinux.com/RootSudo john11:29
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tiglionabbitoops11:29
tiglionabbithttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo11:29
Goganyone else having problems with firefox since the last update?11:30
tiglionabbitnot I11:30
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SrngThanks guys missed this option in man :):)11:30
Goghmm, ok ta11:30
MobyTurboGog, after a Firefox update make sure to exit it and restart.11:30
Fator_Deejohn123123123: did you remember to use sudo?11:30
MobyTurbos/restart/restart it/11:31
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GogMobyTurbo: nod. unfortunately it's still seems to have xml errors doing various things11:31
floater_I don't have access to the internet on the machine for couple weeks. I just gotta burn it on cd and move it to the machine :j  Maybe not the most interesting thing to wander around in linux console without internet, but I'll try learn before I get this new connection to the machine. Then I need to start apt-getting :X11:31
tiglionabbitk.  Someone teach floater_ wget11:32
MobyTurboGog, it works here(tm)11:32
floater_I have used wget before :X just installing the windows port :j11:32
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tiglionabbitah11:32
floater_I hopefully remember it11:32
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floater_it been long since I did it. I tried linux some years ago for a little while11:32
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tiglionabbitubuntu is a fun distro.  I hope you enjoy it11:33
GogMoby hohum, maybe it'll sort itself next time :)11:33
floater_at least I need recursive and then few sublinks to determine I think11:33
cshobeSo what are the highlights of Ubuntu?11:33
tiglionabbitbest as a graphical desktop though11:33
floater_levels11:33
floater_ok11:33
Razor-Xwhat's a good price for a Kinkos print of about 200 pages?11:33
refuze2loozei'm trying to connect to the internet with a cable modem connceted via USB. right now i'm connected with a router attached to the modem. i plugged in the modem and it appears correctly in device manager, but when i go to network settings and i try to configure it makes me enter phone number, etc. like it thinks it's a dialup modem. how can i configure it to be a cable modem?11:33
Razor-Xusing pages front and back11:33
tiglionabbitcshobe: it works, you can install software without screwing things up, most things are configurable through gui, and it's nice to its users.  It answers a lot of questions for you too11:34
Razor-Xso, that would be 100 pages of paper, and 200 pages of ink11:34
cshobetiglionabbit: meh.  What sort of packages?11:34
tiglionabbit...save the trees!  Use the internet!11:34
Razor-Xcshobe: it's a nice, light distro, that fits a lot of good things on a cd11:34
tiglionabbitcshobe: it uses apt.  deb packages11:34
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Razor-Xtiglionabbit: in my mind, ebooks will never replace print11:35
tiglionabbitcss3.0 will11:35
tiglionabbitI bet11:35
Razor-Xand second of all, staring at a Calculus book for that long will make your eyes go hollow11:35
Razor-Xhell no11:35
dbernar1_refuze2looze, from what you said, I think you are doing something wrong, please stay long enough for me to type it out.11:35
Razor-XI prefer my eyes to stay at the level of power they are now ;)11:35
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Razor-Xand trees shmeez11:35
refuze2loozedbernar1_: k, thanks11:35
Razor-XI hope trees worldwide burn11:35
Razor-Xthey give me hellish allergies11:35
dbernar1_refuze2looze, actually I dont have a long typ...ok, well, is the router connected to the computer, or the modem, or both11:36
refuze2loozedbernar1_: both11:36
dbernar1_ok, that is likely your problem, is the router connected to the modem?11:36
tiglionabbitRazor-X: they also convert carbon dioxide to oxygen which is essential for mammals to live11:36
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Razor-Xtiglionabbit: yeah, and we can make energy from blasting neutrons at unstable plutonium nucleii11:37
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refuze2loozedbernar1_: yes the router is connceted to the modem. but i had the same setup on another box that was running ubuntu that was installed with the modem connected and then was able to switch between using modem and router (while all the other computers were connected to the internet through the router)11:37
cshobeok, cheers for the info (I'm mainly interested in server-oriented distributions, but kept seeing ubuntu mentioned by people in the gentoo channel)11:37
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Razor-XI don't think it'ld be that hard to keep a limited set of trees and produce carbon dioxide from that11:37
bob2cshobe: it's an excellent server operating system11:37
Razor-Xrefuze2looze: is the router connected to the computer via ethernet?11:38
geetergodwhat was that chat?11:38
tiglionabbitRazor-X: WE produce the CO2.  THEY make the O211:38
geetergodcerega?11:38
refuze2loozeRazor-X: yeah. and the modem through usb11:38
Fator_Deegeetergod: cedega?11:38
Razor-Xtiglionabbit: errr, yeah, my bad11:38
geetergodthat too11:38
cshobebob2: how so, and why?11:38
bob2cshobe: six month release cycle, 18 months support11:38
Razor-Xrefuze2looze: why not by a USB->Ethernet converter, and run that through your router?11:38
bob2cshobe: it stays up to date, but you don't have to follow it immediately11:39
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Razor-Xit'll mean much better compatibility for any OS or any computer for that matter11:39
dbernar1_refuze2looze, please read the manual of your modem to see if you are supposed to use both at the same time, I have not heard of this yet. btw, do you have 2, or 1 IP assigned from your ISP?11:39
bob2cshobe: (if you want more than 18 months of support, it's available for-pay from canonical and other people)11:39
tiglionabbitthe easies way to win SimCity is to plant a lot of trees.  I was able to get the people in my city to like me so much, they had a parade in my honor every day!11:39
Razor-Xtiglionabbit: don't make me quote the respiration/photosynthesis formulas ;)11:39
tiglionabbiter, sim city 200011:39
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Razor-Xregardless, how much would it eb?11:40
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Razor-X*be11:40
Razor-XI like the feel of print books, plus, too long at the computer reading something makes my eyes sore11:40
tiglionabbitwhy are you asking a kinkos question in an ubuntu channel, razor-x?11:40
Razor-Xand the trees can use some more cutting, they aren't dying any time soon11:40
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Razor-Xtiglionabbit: because, people here otta have experience with that kind of stuff, at least some people, plus, I don't think there's a #kinkos11:41
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zoddanim having problems with my ubuntu on my laptop11:41
bob2best to just aks11:41
tiglionabbitwhat sort of problems, zoddan?11:41
zoddanwhen i loginto gnome and after it has loaded everything it loocks up11:41
zoddani dont get any icons or menus11:42
tiglionabbitthat doesn't sound good11:42
dbernar1_zoddan, have you added anything to the sttartup, by any chance?11:42
zoddani got it to work about 10min yeterday and then it loocka again11:42
zoddandbernar1_: no11:42
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Seveaszoddan, try booting with acpi=off11:43
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zoddanSeveas: by battery stat and Fn buttons wont work then11:43
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dbernar1_refuze2looze, so, one or two IPs from your ISP, do you know?11:44
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zoddanSeveas: how do i change to command line at boot ?11:45
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tiglionabbitzoddan: ubuntu opens 6 virtual terminals for textmode you can get to by holding control-alt and hitting an F key 1 - 611:45
tiglionabbit7 to get back to X11:46
zoddani said at boot11:46
Seveaszoddan, you can hit a key to get a grub shell11:46
zoddannot in X11:46
ticktocthis sucks...  could NOT get on internet anyway at all....   not wvdial, not pon, not gppon so finally installed kppp and not it only works for root... my other user logs into the internet but can't get any packets out..  almost like being behind a firewall ...  what the 'f' is up??  I've been at the for 4 hours now11:46
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tiglionabbitoh, from grub?11:46
Seveasor even edit the entry11:46
zoddanSeveas: i dont use grub11:46
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Seveaszoddan, then i don't know11:46
tiglionabbitwhat do you use?11:46
zoddanlilo11:46
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zoddanlol11:46
bellemothhi11:46
bellemotheverybody11:46
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bob2ticktoc: er, are you sure the connection comes up at all for the other user?11:47
zoddantalk about incompetens :P11:47
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refuze2loozeokay, i got disconnected there for some reason but i think i figured it out, thanks11:47
dbernar1_welcome.11:47
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tiglionabbitzoddan: if you're going to insult us, spell it right.  And we don't know everything.11:48
ticktocbob2... absolutly..  tail -f /var/log/syslog and alls well with the connection11:48
refuze2loozei forgot i did have a dialup modem connected to my computer, doh,, and the usb modem was listed as eth1 and i configured it with the settings from my router.. can i make it auto-detect though? the ip address, etc11:48
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bob2ticktoc: and when the user connects, root can ping things/etc?11:48
ticktocroot can do ANYTHING...  but regular user is just like behind firewall..11:49
bob2that's bizarre11:49
zoddantiglionabbit: it spells that way in my way, well lilo is common use, so11:49
zoddantiglionabbit: not know lilo is like not known what a "kernel" is :P11:49
zoddanand grub cant handle fullscreen splash11:50
tiglionabbitzoddan: not necessarily.  Many people prefer grub11:50
ticktocother methods dont' work for any user..  get pppd error (2)11:50
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zoddantiglionabbit: i dont know anyone that uses grub11:50
bob2ticktoc: show us the full error (in #flood)11:50
tiglionabbitzoddan: that's not true.  I just set one today11:50
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ticktocthe wvdial error?11:50
monteiromy ubuntu uses swap, it was not suppose too because i've enough free ram, is that normal , ubuntu uses swap all the time ?11:50
r0d_zoddan, grub is more secure11:51
bob2ticktoc: the one from your logs11:51
bob2monteiro: yes11:51
zoddanr0d: show me11:51
MobyTurbozoddan, grub is more foolproof11:51
r0d_zoddan, alittle hard......11:51
r0d_zoddan, i'm kinda not by you...11:51
zoddanfoolproof ?11:51
r0d_zoddan, google it, youll see11:51
dbernar1_zoddan, well, now you know a whole disttro that does.11:51
tiglionabbitzoddan: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3034111:51
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r0d_zoddan, doesnt matter to me if you dont believe it. i know because i've tested lilo security11:52
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zoddantiglionabbit: what tha hell is ".xpm.gz" ?11:52
zoddanim using .bpm in lilo11:52
MobyTurbozoddan, you don't have to re-run grub after a kernel change, even if the configuration files are wrong you can boot via grub command line.11:52
tiglionabbitzoddan: that would be the gimp's native format, gzipped11:52
zoddanand damn so mutch work you have to do in grub11:52
zoddanit took me like 3sek to do it in lilo11:52
zoddanand all i had to do was uncomment a line11:53
tiglionabbittook me that long for grub too11:53
zoddanright, i see that11:53
tiglionabbitpf, well then you're not adding your own image11:53
zoddanno11:53
zoddanim using debians own11:53
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zoddani like those11:53
tiglionabbitgreat11:53
ticktocs??t...  no damn error in log...  WHY ME?11:53
zoddanso whats the problem ?11:53
zoddantiglionabbit11:54
tiglionabbitthe problem with your computer freezing?  How should I know?  It could be a bazillion things.11:54
ticktocactually bob2, no error with kppp and regular user...  just no connectivity..11:54
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zoddantiglionabbit: http://www.vivaolinux.com.br/imagens/debian-lilo.jpg11:54
ticktocsyslog looks just like when root logs in..11:54
tiglionabbitzoddan: have you tried "failsafe gnome"?  It's just a guess11:54
zoddantiglionabbit: i have it that way and i like it11:54
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ticktoclet me look at messages..11:55
zoddantiglionabbit: yes i have, it works but i cant do anything more than use the console11:55
baffleOh, don't use breezy? I've used it since Hoary came out. :)11:55
cshobebob2: so support is the primary advantage?11:55
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tiglionabbithow badly does it freeze up when it does?11:55
baffleAnd had lots of fun getting X to work today. :)11:55
cshobebob2: I don't care about support, personally ;-)11:55
cshobebob2: IRC is my support :P11:55
zoddantiglionabbit: total11:55
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tiglionabbityou can't even switch virtual terminals?11:55
zoddantiglionabbit: cant do anything so i have to use the reset button11:55
tiglionabbitcan't even hit the panic button?  (control-alt-backspace)11:56
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zoddantiglionabbit: no11:56
johnnybe1akhey guys11:56
tiglionabbitfound any pattern for causing it?11:56
zoddantiglionabbit: i said i cant do anything i have to use the reset button11:56
bob2cshobe: support = bug fixes and security fixes11:56
tiglionabbitdo you have any weird peripherals plugged in?11:57
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zoddantiglionabbit: no, just my wlan card but i have tried to boot without it11:57
zoddanor loginto gnome11:57
tiglionabbithave you tried `sudo apt-get dist-upgrade` from the console?11:58
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=== tiglionabbit is just humoring you. I have no idea what would cause X to freeze, and it has never happened to me. Maybe it's your hardware. How much ram do you have?
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zoddantiglionabbit: no11:59
zoddani have 19211:59
tiglionabbitmb?11:59
zoddanit workt when i have installed it11:59
nimbuzmy sound works fine in root but when i try to play it in a normal user it doesnt work, have I not got the correct permissions?11:59
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zoddanand then i upgraded to 686 kernel11:59
tiglionabbitzordan: when did you install it, and when did the problem emerge?11:59
tiglionabbityou could have told us that12:00
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tiglionabbittried booting the older kernel?12:00
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zoddani think thats when i got the problems, but when i boot with the 386 kernel i get the same problem anyway12:00
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carstenMoin. DId anyone try to compile kdelibs (for KDE 4 with Qt4) on ubuntu/kubuntu? It doesn't link here12:00
zoddantiglionabbit: 192MB yes12:00
MobyTurbozoddan, have you tried running memtest?12:00
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zoddanMobyTurbo: nothing wrong with my RAM, windows xp sp2 is running smooth12:01
dbernar1_tiglionabbit, know how to register and identify with NickServ?12:01
tiglionabbityes12:01
dbernar1_go ahead, please.12:02
tiglionabbitum, I already have12:02
dbernar1_um, gop ahead and tell me...?12:02
tiglionabbitoh, okay12:02
tiglionabbitfirst get the nick you want, using /nick and the name you want to change to12:02
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tiglionabbitthen say /msg nickserv register and a password you want to use for it12:02
zoddanwell i have ti go talk to you later12:03
zoddanto12:03
zoddancya, thanks for the help anyway12:03
tiglionabbitwhen you login later, say /msg nickserv identify and that password12:03
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floater_tiglionabbit: there is some problems with the user-agent on that cookbook website. I tried wget -r -x -l4 -N -U blaa http://dsl.org/cookbook/cookbook_toc.html but it doesn't work12:03
floater_without -U it sends me a robot.txt that says disallowing user-agent12:04
tiglionabbitthere are a lot of other commands you can use.  /msg nickserv help for more information.  You could start a query (/q) with nickserv to make this easier12:04
tiglionabbitfloater_: oh.  wget respects anti-robots.  Guess they came prepared12:04
dabaslontiglionabbit, thank you, I am registered now.12:05
tiglionabbitcool12:05
tiglionabbityou can link names together.  Go read the help thing on that12:05
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floater_I can't download that website in anyway then?12:06
dabaslonthanks, this is all I needed for now:)12:06
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dabaslonthank you, ubotu.12:07
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tiglionabbitcool12:08
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Fator_Dee:-|12:08
tiglionabbitubotu dpkg12:08
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bigfootI'm using Xchat. On the server list, I pressed the "Sort" button, but I'm not happy with the alphabetical order. How do I put the servers in my own particular order?12:09
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tiglionabbitoo, an old ebook I still have.  nick-zap.home.comcast.net/stuff/unix.pdf  floater_: this is helpful12:09
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ubotutiglionabbit: I don't know, could you explain it?12:10
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dabaslonubotu welcome12:10
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tiglionabbitum..   ubotu drink ?12:11
dabaslonubotu thank you12:11
ubotudabaslon: de nada12:11
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tiglionabbitubotu drink12:11
ubotu*SLUUUUURP* *SLUUUUURP* some kawfee12:11
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tiglionabbitum, what was that?12:11
floater_tiglionabbit do you know some other website like cookbook or other method do download that website? :S12:11
tiglionabbitnope12:12
floater_okiz12:12
tiglionabbitsearch soulseek or limewire for ebooks or something12:12
tiglionabbitor go to tha book store12:12
floater_:) thanks12:12
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dabaslonubotu, Thanks.12:13
ubotudabaslon: no worries12:13
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tiglionabbitubotu eat pizza12:14
ubotutiglionabbit: I don't know, could you explain it?12:14
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smithpizza hot12:15
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bob2best to just not play wit hthe bot12:15
bob2lest it be removed12:15
tiglionabbitoo I like that one!12:15
tiglionabbitaw, the bot is fun12:15
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tcomhey gang.. just a quick question from me. I need to connect to a M$ VPN can this be done easily with Ubuntu? Out of the box?12:15
bigfootHi all: i got a media file without an extension. How do I open this file?12:16
tiglionabbituh, samba configures pretty well for browsing windows shared networks..12:16
tiglionabbitI don't know much about vpn though12:16
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bob2tcom: yeah, but it's fiddly to setup12:16
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bob2bigfoot: ask whoever gave it to you what file type it is12:16
smithtcom-_- you *would* not make it12:16
bob2bigfoot: or just run mplayer on it12:17
tcombob2 thats what I thought12:17
pagiohi, why can't a normal user run Gnome? GMD loads, but then gnome exits and sais that the session ended less in 10seconds...and something about permisions i think. what should i do12:17
tcomi've had troubles with gentoo and VPNs12:17
bob2tcom: pptp.sf.net has a debian howto that should work, yeah12:17
tiglionabbitbigfoot: type `file` and thename of the file.  It's called "magic"12:17
bob2tcom: vpns in generaly are easy, ms's in particular is annoying12:17
tiglionabbitthat will tell you what format it is12:17
bob2pagio: what have you changed since the last time it worked?12:17
tiglionabbiter, what type of file it thinks it is, using magic12:17
thenukeshould I install VNC to my windows box and to linux box for doing some remote administration with the x-window12:18
pagiobob2 no12:18
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pagionothing i mean12:18
bob2pagio: you've changed nothing at all?12:18
bob2not installed new packages?12:18
bob2not edited a config file?12:18
pagionop12:18
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pagionop12:18
pagiothis problem is from the time i installed ubuntu12:18
geneo93pagio:  delete iceaythority from home dir12:18
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tiglionabbitthenuke: sure, why not?12:18
pagiothank you, i'll try12:19
Srnghow can i print only those lines from the file that are 5 or 6 characters long?12:19
tcombob2.. thanks.. i'll keep searching. might try a live cd with VPN ??12:19
tiglionabbitbigfoot: that magic working for you?12:19
thenuketiglionabbit: Just thought if there would be some better ones around :) I have never used VNC or anything like that12:19
bob2pagio: ah, so you ran k3b as root?12:19
tiglionabbitthenuke: I used it recently.  It's quite impressive, and easy to use12:19
bob2tcom: I don't see how that would help...reading the guide I pointed you at will help you to set it up12:19
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we2byany one has vmware running with sound?12:20
tiglionabbitsay, is there a java client for vnc around?  one that runs in a web browser?12:20
Srngtried grep but without much success12:20
goliathello guys12:21
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goliatdoes anyone use ubuntu and know how to write arabic in word12:21
bigfoottiglionabbit, yes. thanks. "file" says that it's "MS-DOS executable (EXE), OS/2 or MS Windows." I'm scared of adding .exe to the filename and doubleclicking it. Won't there be a danger of a virus or soemething?12:22
tiglionabbitbigfoot: linux doesn't run exes12:22
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tiglionabbitSrng: lemme try and make a regular expression for that12:22
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bigfoottiglionabbit, isn't a program called Wine what one uses to run Windows stuff?12:23
tiglionabbitoh, that's true, yes12:23
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tiglionabbitbut clicking on it won't do that12:24
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bigfootis there a danger though of running the exe file in linux? could it harm my system, infecting a virus?12:24
bigfootHow do i use Wine? i've never had to use windows stuff on my ubuntu pc before?12:24
Fator_Deebigfoot: wine runs all exes on their on little sandboxes12:24
Fator_Deebigfoot: there are some guys that have tried to run virii on winem they didn't have any effect :-)12:25
bob2well12:25
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tiglionabbitSrng: does this one work?  "^.{0,5}$"12:25
bob2it could potentially damage your system12:25
bob2delete files, etc12:25
bob2depending on how it is configured12:25
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bigfootFator_Dee, good to hear, so i guess i can get wine via synaptic...?12:25
Fator_Deebut all executables could be potentially harmful12:25
bob2don't run untrusted windows code on linux12:26
Gogis there a recommended way to upgrade firefox beyond the rather old ubuntu version?12:26
Fator_Deeit doesn't take a much of a shell script to delete all your files :-\12:26
bob2Gog: rather old? it came out < 2 months ago!12:26
Gog1.0.2 ?12:26
Srngtiglionabbit, I'll check in a minute, I've come up with something like "^.\{5\}\|.\{6\}$"12:26
Fator_Deeit has all the security updates12:26
geneo93if you want to run a virus use windows please12:26
bigfoottiglionabbit, i'm so silly. You know what? I didn't have to run that file command. I could just find out what kind of file it is by selecting the file in Nautilus then File-> Properties!12:26
bob2Gog: you know it has all the security fixes from 1.0.3 and 1.0.4, right?12:27
Gogbob2: it's too old to use any standard way of installing extensions, and mine is completely unsuable since the last ubuntu update12:27
Gogah, no I didn't12:27
bob2Gog: please file a bug if it's "unusable" in any sense other than "can't install new extensions"12:27
tiglionabbitbigfoot: yeah, the guis are smart too!  But now you know the commandline equivalent12:27
K_Dallasthere is also file foo.ext which would try to identify a file type12:27
bob2you can get a new tarball from www.mozilla.org, though12:27
Gogbob2: is there a away to rollback updates?12:27
bob2not easily12:27
xukunWhen I first installed ubuntu I could switch between open programms with the mice becouse I could see all the running programms at the bottom of my screen but that is gone now, I have to use the alt+tab to switch between programms. I hope you can make something with this becouse I dont know how else I can explain things12:27
Gog:-\12:28
bigfootokay, then. thanks for all  your advice about running .exe on linux. I decided i won't run it. I'll just get the non .exe file, just to be safe.12:28
bob2xukun: you deleted the window list applet.  add it back.12:28
bigfoottiglionabbit, thank you for teaching me  about the "file" command.12:28
bob2xukun: right click on panel -> add applet -> window list -> add12:28
K_Dallasxukun, did you have a crash prior to this? could you right click on the bottom bar and add items . panels to it?12:28
bigfoottiglionabbit, you must be running the commandline all the time, i suppose. No gui for you?12:28
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K_Dallasbigfoot: you could also try less file.ext and have a look at the first line of the file. after a while you could easily recognize many of the the files just by looking at the first few bits12:30
seliniumI don't think I have ever seen this channel sooo quiet! WAKE UP! :)12:30
tiglionabbitbigfoot: nah, I use the gui when it's more convenient.  I just like the freedom of being able to grab an ssh client on any computer anywhere and access features of *nix12:30
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tiglionabbitit's the middle of the night in the US, selinium12:30
bigfootselinium, where in the world are you?12:30
athlonwhich package do I need to install to get ipv4 traceroute ?12:30
seliniumtiglionabbit: OK :) UK. I am a frequent visitor here12:31
bigfootK_Dallas, i appreciate your tip. what's "less file.ext"?12:31
bigfootI tried loading the huge file into Gedit, but i guess it was too much for gedit!12:31
tiglionabbitless is a commandline viewer12:31
tiglionabbitit lets you use the arrow keys to scroll up and down12:31
athlondo nevermind12:31
K_Dallasbigfoot, less prints out the content of a usually text file on the standard out but it does thesame for binary files12:31
seliniumbigfoot: UK, its 11:30 in the morning12:32
athlons/do/doh12:32
K_Dallasso usually when you do it on binary files it starts to whistle etc which is no harm :)12:32
K_Dallasthere is more but more does less than less ;)12:32
tiglionabbitum, k_dallas, usually opening a binary file in less will screw up your terminal12:32
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bigfootK_Dallas, but if i run the less command on an .exe file, won't i just come up with a bunch of illegible code?12:32
geneo936;30 am in us east12:32
K_Dallastiglionabbit, rarely12:32
tiglionabbitbigfoot: yep12:32
tiglionabbitK_Dallas: always happens to me12:33
K_Dallasbigfoot, yes it does but you only need the first few bits12:33
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K_Dallaswell, sometimes to me but not always12:33
Srngtiglionabbit, i'm afraid your regexp doesnt work, but I think i see what the problem is: it should go like "^.\{5,6\}$". thanks for your help anyway. :)12:33
bigfootK_Dallas, the first few bits will tell me what kind of file the .exe file is?12:33
seliniumgeneo93: having an early morning, or a late night?12:33
tiglionabbitwhat's the command to clean that up, btw, once the terminal text has gotten all screwed up?12:33
bigfootokay, if it is *totally* safe to run that less command, I'll do it right now on the .exe file.12:33
K_Dallasbigfoot, yes12:33
bigfootplease confirm.12:33
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geneo93latenight12:34
K_Dallasbigfoot, the worst thing that could happen is that you have to close your terminal and open another one12:34
tiglionabbitSrng: I don't know why it would take those backslashes..   but oh yeah, you wanted 5-6, not 0-5.  correct12:34
seliniumgenao93: Work, or insomnia? :)12:34
Srngtiglionabbit, :)12:34
tiglionabbitbtw, here's a reference http://www.amk.ca/python/howto/regex/12:35
bigfootK_Dallas, okay, if that's the worst thing that could happen, i guess that's fine. Just didn't want any .exe file sabotaging my system, deleting files, putting a virus, etc.12:35
K_Dallasi actually get more info thruy less than file :)12:35
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K_Dallasthat is safe12:35
geneo93just took a 2 hour nap before12:35
tiglionabbitbigfoot: do not be worried about windows code.  That's like getting the flu from your dog12:36
K_Dallasthere is no virus in linux, so far :)12:36
Srngtiglionabbit, thanks i'm sure it'll come in handy12:36
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solani just added a additional hdd in my Ubuntu box12:36
solanhow can i do that?12:36
solani want to format it to ext3 fs12:36
solanhow can i do that?12:36
Amaranthfdisk12:36
K_Dallassolan, fdisk12:36
tiglionabbitsolan: run parted, gparted, or qtparted?12:36
K_Dallasor cfdisk12:37
Amaranthor gparted12:37
geneo93tiglionabbit:  its possible with that bird flu12:37
solanthanks12:37
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xukunbob2, thank a lot, yes I have th windows list panel now, but I places it also at the top panel, what I need is(like it was before) that it places the windows list panel at the bottom, and everthing else at the top12:38
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xukunbut it ...12:38
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xukunbut I,m already happy with this too12:39
geneo93xukun:  just put it at bottom in config12:39
tiglionabbitxukun: drag it?12:39
xukungeneo93, which config would that be?12:40
solani dont understand fdisk12:40
Choubakause gparted12:40
seliniumsolan: use gparted12:40
xukuntiglionabbit, that doesnt work12:40
solani installing it now12:40
tiglionabbitxukun: you're right12:40
geneo93configure pannel12:40
terrexsb knows a command like win-defrag for ext3 ?12:40
K_Dallasfrom /.: Science: Too Much Homework Can Be Counterproductive [I hate to see grant money spent on something that everybody already knows ;)] 12:41
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bigfootin terminal, i did the less command, it asked me "SomeFile" may be a binary file. See it anyway?               What do i type in?12:41
bob2xukun: then add it to the bottom panel12:41
bob2bigfoot: y or n12:41
K_Dallastyype: y12:41
HoodedHey?12:41
tiglionabbitbigfoot: that warns you, because binary files usually screw up the terminal12:41
goldfish_they do :)12:41
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bigfoottiglionabbit, it does? how so?12:41
K_Dallas:)12:41
geneo93chkfs ext312:41
tiglionabbityou'll see12:41
HoodedI'm downloading ubuntu live right now, how does it work? Is it like a preview or what?12:41
K_Dallasit makes you no more able to type normally12:42
ChoubakaHooded: yes.12:42
ChoubakaHooded: you boot it from the CD12:42
xukunbob2, hmm maybe that is the probleem becouse I only have a top panel12:42
HoodedI'm downloading ubuntu live, its not a CD12:42
terrexgeneo93: thx12:42
K_DallasHooded, it isa CD image12:42
bob2xukun: right click on the top and select "new panel" then12:42
HoodedWell, when I download it fully and execute it what happens?12:42
bob2Hooded: nothing, you have to burn it to a cd12:43
bigfoottiglionabbit, i got the lines of the file, but, because I'm not geeky enough, i have no idea how to decipher the code. Can anybody help me decipher the first few lines of an .exe file? I can post it in #flood. Thanks.12:43
Hooded=\12:43
HoodedOKay, so I download it, burn it too a CD, load the CD then?12:43
K_Dallasbigfoot, sure12:43
tiglionabbitit was dallas who wanted you to show him that12:43
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bob2Hooded: then you boot the cd, yes12:43
raDeonWHO CALLED ME12:43
tiglionabbitdallas, why did you want to know it anyway?12:43
bob2bigfoot: er, why are you looking at a .exe file?12:43
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tiglionabbitraDeon: no one12:43
HoodedWhat do I do from there? Will it install it and fuck all my windows stuff up?12:43
K_Dallasknow what?12:44
bob2Hooded: no, it's a live cd, it runs from the cd12:44
raDeonHooded, watch the language12:44
HoodedSorry12:44
bigfootbob2, to see if it's what i was told it was, namely a media file.12:44
bob2bigfoot: dude12:44
K_Dallasbigfoot: all it says is that is a window executable!12:44
tiglionabbitHooded: no, there is an option for safely resizing ntfs partitions even12:44
bob2bigfoot: run "file blah" on it, where blah is obviously the filename12:44
bob2bigfoot: if it says it's an "window executable", it is12:44
HoodedBut with the live one, it will just run it as a preview and its like nothing ever happpened when I take it out?12:45
bigfootbob2, but now i'd like to know if it's safe to run that .exe file or not.12:45
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xukunbob2, thanks for your help again12:45
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K_Dallasbigfoot, always try file foo first, less is when file cannot recognize the type of the file12:45
tiglionabbitHooded: yes, but it runs from ram and will therefore be slower12:45
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K_Dallasbigfoot, install a virus scanner like clamav12:45
bigfootK_Dallas, what does foo stand for.12:45
HoodedOKay then, great12:45
bob2bigfoot: you are seriously asking people to read a windows executable, over IRC, and tell you if it's safe to run?12:45
K_Dallasfoo is a dummy name12:45
bigfootbob2, i guess i trust you guys.12:45
HoodedI've been puting off moving too linux forever but now I'm gonna do it12:45
tiglionabbitbob2: it was k_dallas's idea12:45
K_Dallasbob2, if that was that easy12:45
bigfootHooded, do it! do it!12:46
bob2bigfoot: no one can audit .exe files12:46
HoodedAnd if all goes well I will download the full version12:46
K_Dallasnah, how could i suggest that :)12:46
bob2bigfoot: just don't run it12:46
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bigfootbob2, okay.12:46
tiglionabbitHooded: debian is the funnest distro ever.  I hope you have a good time!12:46
tiglionabbiter, ubuntu12:46
bigfoothow come you're not the operator today, bob2?12:46
K_Dallaswhere have you got that file anyway?12:46
bob2bigfoot: if "file" says it is a windows executable, it is12:46
tiglionabbitis12:46
bob2bigfoot: I am12:46
Choubakatiglionabbit: :D12:46
HoodedI better close this now, its slowing the download, and thanks for the help guys, I appreciate it :D12:46
tiglionabbitbut ubuntu is based on debian.12:46
tiglionabbitsame difference12:46
ChoubakaDebian is wonderful too.12:46
tiglionabbitI'm tired and my mind slips12:46
tiglionabbitlol12:46
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bigfootwhat's hooded debian?12:46
Amaranthsweet lovely working keyboard shortcuts, oh how i've missed you12:47
ChoubakaBut it's more for the Server sysadmins.12:47
bigfootIt's the "funniest distro"? Never heard of that sort of comment.12:47
tiglionabbithooded is the guy, debian is what ubuntu is based on, and that was a slip12:47
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tiglionabbitI said funnest!12:47
bigfootIs being a funny distro a compliment or not?12:47
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Amaranthbigfoot: The ops hide now. :)12:47
tiglionabbitnot funniest12:47
bigfootoh, funnest!12:47
tiglionabbit...12:47
bigfoottiglionabbit, ha!12:47
tiglionabbitvery sorry about that...12:47
bigfootfunner than ubuntu, tiglionabbit ?12:47
tiglionabbitI meant to say ubuntu, actually12:48
AmaranthI think he was being sarcastic.12:48
AmaranthOr not.12:48
bigfoottiglionabbit, so ubuntu is the funnest distro, is that you were saying?12:48
bigfootand a distro called "Hooded Debian" is not fun?12:48
bigfootI've heard of Debian, but not "Hooded Debian".12:48
ChoubakaHooded Debian!12:48
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bigfootHi Choubaka, how's star wars?12:48
ChoubakaThe mystic Debian.12:48
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xukunWhen I download something it puts in my desktop, can I change that?12:49
Choubakabigfoot: You're mispronouncing my nickname.12:49
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tiglionabbitbigfoot, hooded is the guy I was talking to..12:49
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Choubakabigfoot: I'm not the hairy one.12:49
geneo93is that like uncircumsized12:49
bigfootbob2, what did lier do?12:49
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bob2come on folks, keep it serious12:49
bob2bigfoot: claims to be a troll from yesterday, don't want to have to find out the hard way12:50
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ChoubakaOh, the one who would kill you?12:50
bigfootbob2, lier said to you "Bob2, I'm a troll"???12:50
tiglionabbitanyway, what I meant to say is, I hope 'hooded' has a good time using ubuntu12:50
bob2bigfoot: more or less12:50
bob2Choubaka: so it claims12:50
bigfoottiglionabbit, gotcha.12:50
geneo93bob2:  have a sense of homer12:51
Choubakabob2: Heh. He's in my ignore :P12:51
bigfooti thought Debian was trying to give themselves a sportscar feel with the "hooded" adjective, but now i now.12:51
seliniumgeneo93: homer? DOH!12:51
bob2geneo93: people threatening to kill me isn't funny, somehow12:51
bigfootDOH! nuts.12:51
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bigfootbob2, do you really think he could kill you?12:52
bigfootbob2, I agree it aint funny.12:52
ChoubakaHooded Buzz. That'll be the debian stable after Etch or whatever.12:52
bob2bigfoot: no, not at all12:52
seliniumbigfoot DOH! nuts..... MMMMmmmm!12:52
ChoubakaI wonder when Debian will be 4.0 :P12:53
seliniumbob2: what is this about a troll? is that like a bot or something?12:53
goldfish_selinium: someone who disses stuff.12:53
goldfish_selinium: Apparantly.12:53
bob2goldfish_: er, no12:53
goldfish_hmm12:53
goldfish_k12:53
bob2selinium: it was somsone who was just being randomly abusive12:53
goldfish_hehe12:53
goldfish_Ah right.12:53
geneo932020 stable12:53
tiglionabbitwho was it?12:54
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bob2"ubuntuhater"12:54
seliniumbob2: Cheers, I am still trying to build up my knowledge of TLA's and buzzwords! :)12:54
bigfootbob2, do you work with ubuntu at work?12:54
bob2bigfoot: sort-of12:55
tiglionabbitwhat are TLAs?12:55
bob2three-letter-acronyms12:55
bigfootThe Last Americans.12:55
seliniumtiglionabbit: Three Letter Acronyms :)12:55
geneo93what do you mean sort of12:55
smithPLA?12:55
tiglionabbitTheater of Living Arts12:56
bigfoottiglionabbit, i was just joking.12:56
bigfootPlatypus Lovers Association.12:56
smith^-^12:56
thenukehmmh, does some one know something about vino? vnc-server for gnome..  it is currently installed but I cant connect to that machine12:56
bigfootPhour-letter-acronyms12:56
bigfoot8-)12:56
seliniumbigfoot: LOL12:56
luxoin vino veritas :)12:56
bigfootoh, a Latin-oh speaker, this luxo.12:57
geneo93and even five letter acronyms12:57
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bigfootveritas is truth, but what's "vino"?12:57
tiglionabbitthenuke: go to System->preferences->remote desktop12:57
mindspinthos guys laying on the pavement?12:57
luxowine :) there's truth in wine :)12:57
bigfooti see.12:57
nuliukasthenuke, is vino daemon running? is it configured to accept remote connections?12:58
bigfootwhat do you mean about your comment on wine (the program, and not the drink, i presume)?12:58
geneo93Wine =short-cut to gutter12:58
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Srngin vino veritas :] 12:58
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luxobigfoot> nothing, just silly comment ..offtopic12:59
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bigfootdoes anybody here think that having the trash icon on the panel is rather, um, not useless, but hard to use? I mean, you try to drap and drop some file(s), but you don't know if the trash icon is selected...01:00
bigfootdoes that make sense?01:00
tiglionabbitselected?01:00
bigfooti mean, when your mouse (with the files for deletion) are hovering over the trash icon.01:00
tiglionabbitit's designed well enough that even if you're against the edge of the screen you'll hit it, like the show desktop button01:01
tiglionabbitI generally use the dangerous unix style "rm" to get rid of things though01:01
tiglionabbitno recovering from that01:01
seliniumtiglionabbit rm -R /   does that work? :)01:02
tiglionabbitdon't do that01:02
psychicdragonit is kinda wierd that it doesn't shine like the launchers do though01:02
tiglionabbityeah, it is01:02
psychicdragonwhen you mouse over that is01:02
bigfoottiglionabbit, you're right. I guess I just had to wait a little longer to see the file removed into the trash.01:02
bigfootpsychicdragon, you talking about the trash icon, right?01:03
psychicdragonyes01:03
sijphey people, just one small OT question that bothers me today.... wasn't sarge should have been release two days ago?01:03
seliniumtiglionabbit: On mouseover , it would be better if it changed slightly.01:03
psychicdragonjune 6, i think i saw on slashdot01:04
K_Dallassijp, on the 6th01:04
sijpoh... ok, I guess it was a not updated page01:04
sijpthnx01:04
sijp:P01:04
bob2sijp: it's been delayed01:05
bob2I wouldn't believe any planned release date, just wait for the release announcement01:05
sijpok, got it01:05
sijpthanks again01:06
bigfootafter ripping your dvd, what do you use to play the files on your hard drive, the ones that have extensions .bup .ifo and .vob?01:06
bob2you'd want to convert it to a useful format01:06
K_Dallasbigfoot, mplayer, xine01:06
goldfish_vlc is good too01:06
tiglionabbituse vlc!  it's awesome01:06
bigfootwith VLC, i have to drag and drop the folder  onto VLC, but how so with mplayer and xine?01:07
tiglionabbityou'll still need one of the others around for certain formats though01:07
bigfoottiglionabbit, is vlc better than mplayer and xine? Better for all types of files, or just .vob/ifo/bup files?01:07
tiglionabbitbigfoot: gmplayer has a little "..." on the left on the skin thing.  Click on that01:07
K_Dallasbetter does not make sense, try them and see what pleases you01:07
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K_Dallasright now there are windows version of both vlc and mplayer but to me mplayer is what i need01:08
tiglionabbitbigfoot: Yeah, it seems a lot better.  But I think there are quite a few formats you'll still need mplayer for01:08
K_Dallastiglionabbit, does vlc allow dumpstream?01:09
tiglionabbitmplayer doesn't sync my sound up right, and has some weird behaviors in it.01:09
K_Dallasnever used it01:09
tiglionabbitdumpstream?01:09
tiglionabbitK_Dallas: go dowload it.  It's worth your time01:09
K_Dallasyou know watching online TV and saving it?01:09
tiglionabbitumm..  how do you do that?01:09
K_Dallasi am pretty happy with mplayer thanks01:09
K_Dallasmplayer does that for video or audio01:10
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tiglionabbitI asked how01:10
K_Dallasflag: -dumpstream01:10
tiglionabbitno I mean...  ...   how do I do it?01:10
K_Dallasor -dumpaudio -dumpvideo01:10
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tiglionabbitwhere do I get these TV shows and such?01:10
K_Dallaslol01:10
K_Dallasonline TVs are not really worth looking for unless you look for something that you cannot get on the cable or from sayellite01:11
K_Dallaswhich is my case01:11
tiglionabbito01:11
tiglionabbitor if you don't have a TV01:11
tiglionabbitlike me01:11
K_Dallasstill you could record online radios, programs that you do not want to miss01:11
K_Dallaslol01:11
tiglionabbitnot that I need one01:11
tiglionabbitactually, that would be a large improvement.  My family's VCR really really sucks01:12
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tiglionabbitif I could get a computer to record their shows for them, they'd love that01:12
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K_Dallastiglionabbit, most american TV shows are not available thru torrent or P2P networks01:12
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tiglionabbitoh, you mean torrent?  Um, why wouldn't vlc be able to play something you've already torrented?  I don't understand the difference here01:13
AmaranthPlease don't discuss illegal activities.01:13
tiglionabbittorrenting TV isn't illegal, is it?01:14
thenukewhy it would not be01:14
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tiglionabbitI mean, if it was, so would TiVo01:14
Choubakanah.01:14
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thenuketivo is like VCR and such :D01:14
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ChoubakaTiVo is different.01:14
DarkraD-hello01:15
thenukeit's not like grabbing shows from p2p01:15
DarkraD-is there a link to download ubuntu dvd?01:15
DarkraD-the torrent one sux01:15
ChoubakaThe guys distributing the shows on p2p do not have licence to do so.01:15
DarkraD-and the one on cdimage is corrupted01:15
DarkraD-it's an empty image01:15
Choubakait's still not illegal to download them where I live though01:15
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DarkraD-u download it in a sec, since it's empty image01:16
tiglionabbitum, why do you need a licence to distribute TV?01:16
tiglionabbithow is it different from taping something and distributing the tapes?01:16
DarkraD-anybody know?01:16
tiglionabbitI never heard of that being illegal.  TV doesn't have those government DO NOT REPRODUCE warnings on it01:17
tiglionabbitDarkraD-: um, I just waited for the torrent01:17
psychicdragona lot of the tv shows on net are rips of dvds, which do01:17
tiglionabbithm01:17
DarkraD-possible that it's nowhere ?! =\01:17
Choubakatiglionabbit: it's large-scale.01:17
tiglionabbitdo they release the dvds before the actual show then?  Because there are a lot of shows that come out on the net shortly after they're shown on TV01:17
DarkraD-i downloaded the cd, but it has not my langiuage package01:17
seliniumHas anyone here use the Zend Optimizer on a webserver?01:18
DarkraD-plus i can't set more than 640x480 =\01:18
tiglionabbit=[01:18
tiglionabbitit makes me sad when people have problems with ubuntu, because I love it so01:18
DarkraD-can be possible that dvd package had the package i need for my video card?01:19
DarkraD-it's a geforce01:19
DarkraD-so quite common01:19
DarkraD-possible that can't be set more than 640 48001:19
DarkraD-i can choose 320 x ___01:20
DarkraD-=\01:20
tiglionabbitDarkraD-: you probably need to download the drivers from nvidia's website01:20
Fator_DeeDarkraD-: your screen resolutions are way too low? is that the prob?01:20
bigfoothow do i remove  the the suggested applications to load a particular type of file? (In the mouse context menu)?01:20
psychicdragonDarkraD: see this: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver01:21
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tiglionabbitbigfoot: right-click, Open With Other Appliation.  Just like windows...01:22
tiglionabbitor you can...01:22
DarkraD-k will see thx01:22
psychicdragonnp01:22
Fator_DeeDarkraD-: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto you could try that also01:22
bigfoottiglionabbit, i know that. my question is, after I select that "other application," that application is now on the suggested list in the context menu...01:22
bigfootoh, i realized i didn't state my thing in a question form, but you understand 8-)01:23
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tiglionabbitoh.  Right-click and go to properties.  There's an Opens With tab with add/remove buttons on it01:23
thenukeumm humm.. Is it possible to use this VNC(VINO) so that it does not takeover desktop of the user who is currently logged in?01:24
bigfoottiglionabbit, thanks!01:24
tiglionabbityou're welcome01:24
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tiglionabbitthenuke: well it would have to take over somebody's desktop, right?  You probably want a different feature, like a remote login...  I don't know how to do that01:25
thenuketiglionabbit: okey then. I wonder if there is such client for windows :)01:25
tiglionabbityou can do an Appliations->System Tools-> New Login to get another window manager up in a virtual terminal (#8) and perhaps it would use that one instead01:25
davehi, is it ok to ask n00b questions here?01:25
tiglionabbityes01:25
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tiglionabbitwe're all human beings here, right?01:25
K_Dallasnah, some are bots01:26
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tiglionabbitlol, true01:26
Fator_Deethenuke: do you mean the vnc server that comes with ubuntu? that remote desktop?01:26
thenuketiglionabbit: wellh, I would need to be able to do that remotely01:26
thenukeFator_Dee: yes01:26
seliniumI have downloaded the zend optimizer for PHP, it say to run ./install.sh but it doesn't do anything. the file is a tar.gz... What do i do?01:26
davei just wacked my /etc/modules file -- no backup -- is there one on the install cd that i could throw in so i don't get a kernel panic on reboot (at least that's what i expect would happen)01:26
Fator_Deethenuke: you can change it from the server properties if you want others to be able to take over your desktop01:26
tiglionabbityeah..  There are some other remote desktop applications, some come with kubuntu.  I'd have to test em out, thenuke.  I know if you use cygwin you can run an X session remotely though01:27
Fator_Deethenuke: and you can set a password for it01:27
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goldfish_selinium: u have untarred it, yes?01:27
floater_how do I remove glide from the module list? I can't run x because it fails to load module glide01:27
wdhfloater_, sudo dpkg-reconfiger xserver-xorg01:27
thenukeFator_Dee: umm.. I dont want to disable the remote connections :P01:27
bigfootnow related to that, you know when you go to the "Other Applications" window? Well, when you start typing, it does a search in the list of programs. But somehow it's not working well.For example, when I type "vim," what gets selected is VLC for GTK+   . Is this a bug in Hoary?01:27
tiglionabbitfator-dee: what he wants is to be able to call a login (gdm) remotely01:27
wdhlast menu iirc01:27
thenukeFator_Dee: I just would like to be able to log in remotely01:27
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seliniumgoldfish_ nope.... Very new to this kind of thing, wasn't sure where to untar it to.01:27
thenukeInto the X I mean01:27
Fator_Deetiglionabbit: aah01:27
goldfish_selinium: no problemo.01:27
goldfish_selinium: tar xvzf blah.tar.gz01:28
tiglionabbitdave: when you said n00b questions, I didn't know you meant that!01:28
davehehe01:28
wdhfloater_, 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' that is01:28
psychicdragonselinium, tar zxvf file.tar.gz... then ./install.sh01:28
goldfish_selinium: then cd into the directory it makes, then run that command.01:28
goldfish_the ./install one01:28
seliniumCheers guys!01:28
teknomaniachi i'm new ,i have opto 325 a4tech mosue with 4 buttons and 2 scrolls,and scroll works but 2 extra buttons don't,i want to have this button like a back and forward ,how can i do this without special program,maybe i could change something in XF86config-4 :01:28
tiglionabbitdave: I don't really know what you an do about that...  sounds bad.  Why'd ya do it?01:28
fuflohi. i have (maybe a stupid) question.. how is it made in ubuntu: when i choose lithuanian lang at setup, after instaling ubuntu it is like on windows. the main kb layout is LT which is lithuanian ;) and if i press alt, it temporaly changes to US. now everything would be ok, but ubuntu i can press shift, and then alt and it still changes the layout. but here, on my other distro if i press shift, and then alt nothing happens. now my question is, how do01:28
teknomaniacSection "InputDevice"01:28
teknomaniacIdentifier"Configured Mouse"01:28
teknomaniacDriver"mouse"01:28
teknomaniacOption"CorePointer"01:28
teknomaniacOption"Device""/dev/input/mice"01:28
teknomaniacOption"Protocol""ExplorerPS/2"01:28
teknomaniac#Option"Emulate3Buttons""true"01:29
Fator_Deegah01:29
teknomaniacOption"ZAxisMapping""4 5"01:29
teknomaniacEndSection01:29
tiglionabbitstop pasting!01:29
Fator_Deemake it stop01:29
K_Dallasone more line and you had been kicked :)01:29
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davetiglionabbit: it wasn't intentional -- not enough coffee this morning01:29
fufloanyone reading my Q ? :)01:30
bigfoottiglionabbit, would you know the answer to the 2nd question i asked?01:30
bigfoot8-)01:30
teknomaniacsory i use ctrl+v and i don't want to make so much line01:30
bigfootfuflo, you forgot a nose for your sideways smiley. :)    ----->   :-)01:30
fufloi dont have one01:30
tiglionabbitbigfoot: sec, lots of text, lemme read back01:30
daveah, well.  thx guys01:31
fufloso? anyone have answer to my question? :/01:31
sijpfulfo, are you using gnome or KDE?01:31
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bigfootfuflo, did you know that your question is unfinished?01:32
laniushow well does ubuntu run on a p300 700 with 384m bram=01:32
fuflobigfoot: no01:32
bigfootit is.01:32
Fator_Deelanius: quite good01:32
Fackamatolanius: quite well01:32
fuflosijp: currently nothing01:32
fuflobut i prefer gnome01:32
laniusbetter than windows98?01:32
Fator_Deelanius: install xfce4, might be better than gnome01:32
tiglionabbitbigfoot: no, I'd say that's just the autoguesser thing estimating what you want based on the number of letters.  If you want to enter a command, click the arrow down there to enter it as a terminal command01:32
fuflobigfoot: then help me finish it01:32
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Fator_Deelanius: or fluxbox/blackbox/openbox/icewm01:33
tiglionabbitfulfo: you got cut off after "now, my question is, how do"01:33
fufloeh01:33
tiglionabbitirc limits the number of letters01:33
K_Dallasthat is the worst place to be cut short ;)01:33
fuflowait then.. ;)01:33
fuflo" ... how do i do that like on ubuntu? "01:34
bigfoottiglionabbit, autoguessing? i don't get it. How come it can't select the rigth command based on what you typed? Guessing is not really necessary for the function, wouldn't you agree? If it's as you say it is, how come "Run Command" works much better at guessing? 8-)01:34
tiglionabbitbigfoot: because the guesser is guessing what you want from the items displayed.  You may have to go down a level to find the thing you want...   and, i don't know01:35
Fator_Deefuflo: try to find the keyboard shortcuts configuration?01:35
sijpwell, I configured the layout in x.org which is my prefered waym but you can do it under gnome with it's wizard01:35
tiglionabbitbigfoot: besides, vim isn't on that list for me01:36
underdogGuys... I'm using breezy right now. Is there a reason that keybindings aren't working?01:36
fufloFator_Dee: huh? first of all i want to know if its gnome option, or plain xorg.conf01:36
Fator_Deeunderdog: it's not stable, that's why01:36
tiglionabbitunderdog: read the topic line?01:36
underdogie. using nautilus and pressing ctrl + x it closes the window01:36
Fator_Deeunderdog: look the /topic01:36
underdogFator_Dee: I noticed the topic when I joined, thank you :)01:36
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sijpfuflo, it can be both, there are two ways to achive the same result01:36
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sijpthere is a wizard in gnome, that do that01:37
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flipyin a server installation of ubuntu hoary, does it come with some kind of auto-mount utility?01:37
fuflosijp: well i know things like grp:switch,grp:lswitch in xorg.conf. but it doesnt act like on ubuntu. :/01:37
sijpummm... did you looked at your ubuntu's xorg.conf ?01:38
sijplook*01:38
fufloi dont have that anymore.01:39
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fuflobut as i looked before i saw only one layout defined. that was "lt"01:39
tiglionabbitflipy: auto mount what?01:39
flipya usb mass storage device01:39
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tiglionabbithmm, dunno, usb devices have worked for me but I haven't tried that.  Try plugging it in and typing lsusb01:40
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sijpthere was no something like :         Option  "XkbOptions" "grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll"01:40
wartyhelp01:40
fuflosijp: nope01:40
wartymy monitor is fliping01:40
fuflothats the idea..01:40
tiglionabbitsijp: there's options for those under System->Preferences->Keyboard01:40
wartyi cant load ubuntu01:40
sijpthen it was probably configured under the gnome configs01:41
sijpyes, that one01:41
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wartyhelp please!01:41
tiglionabbitfliping?01:41
wartylot of lines up down01:42
fuflohm. i used gnome for a while, looked at those settings and they looked identical to xorg's. so i think it should be possible to do the same on plain xorg :/01:42
wartyi dont know very good englis01:42
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flipytiglionabbit: a usb mass storage device01:42
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tiglionabbitum, fixresolutionhowto?01:42
wartybut is like a piece of paper01:42
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wdhflipy, try 'lsusb' and see if it is listed when plugged in01:43
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wdhor plug it in and run 'dmesg'01:43
sijpfuflo, I don't know, that alt feature is not something i use, I change it with ALT+SHIFT :/01:43
flipywdh: if I plugged it, it is detected01:43
flipythe thing is to automount it01:43
wartytiglionabbit is loading the kernel and when i have to log in i cant01:43
FireBoxHas anyone in here got tightvncserver working?01:44
wartybecause is flipping01:44
fuflosijp: well yeah. changing it permanently works. but i want it to change only when i'm holding alt.01:44
wartytiglionabbit can help me please01:44
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sijpsorry, I cannot help :/01:44
fufloanyway.. thanks everyone for your time.. if i come up with a solution ill give you a word.. ;)01:45
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tiglionabbitwarty: I don't really know anything about that problem01:45
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wartyhelp01:45
manitoba98xpHello all, I am using Ubuntu Hoary. I have a couple questions about the keyboard shortcuts in GNOME. First, I noticed the "eject" feature, which is a lot like the feature in Mac OS X (necessary, because the eMacs, particularly, have the actual button inaccessible). However, I haven't found a way to bring it back in. I know, from the command-line, I can use "eject" to eject it and "eject -t" to bring it back in. 01:46
tiglionabbitwarty: All I can do is point you to this http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:46
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K_Dallasmanitoba98xp, cdrecord -load dev=your device01:46
bigfootHello, I'm trying to configure Firefox to run a certain application when I click a certain file, I try to rummage through but I cant' find the application's location. how do i do it?01:47
tiglionabbitbigfoot: there are several ways01:47
tiglionabbitony way, if you know the name of the application, is to say "which" followed by the name of it01:47
tiglionabbitit will show you which binary it would use for that command01:48
wartybut i cant pass the login session01:48
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tiglionabbitwarty: you can use a virtual terminal by hitting control-alt-F1, as well as the other F buttons.  1-6 are text, 7 is the login screen01:48
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wartyis not working too01:48
wartyi tried01:48
manitoba98xpcdrecord -load dev=/dev/cdrom just pulls it in, but doesn't eject it if it is closed.01:49
tiglionabbitbigfoot: if you know the name of the deb package, you can say dpkg -L and the name of the package to list the things installed by it.  Then there's 'locate'.  You can say locate and the name of the file, but make sure you run 'sudo updatedb' first or it wont find new things01:49
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Fator_Deequestion, how well ubuntu installs on a computer with a only a sata-harddrive? what about if I have a sata-drive and an ata-drive?01:50
manitoba98xpCan anyone help me?01:51
tiglionabbitbigfoot: or...  you could say echo $PATH and it would give you a list of places it looks for applications in01:51
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tiglionabbitmanitoba98xp: um..  no idea.  Try google.  It doesn't seem super important though.01:51
Fator_Deemanitoba98xp: what do you need to do exactly?01:51
tiglionabbithe wants to be able to close his cd drive from the gui I think01:52
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manitoba98xpWell, I want functionality similar to that on Mac OS X.01:52
manitoba98xpBut I want one button to close or open the CD drive, depending on its current state.01:52
tiglionabbitthen get a mac.  =P.01:52
Fator_Deehmm, I don't know if you can do that, can't you just press the button on the drive :->01:52
tiglionabbitokay, manitoba, since you know the command, why not MAKE a button?01:52
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manitoba98xp(I know about eject and eject -t)01:52
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manitoba98xpI mean a keyboard shortcut, sorry.01:52
picochuhi guys i need to ask a question, to what extent are deb packages compatible with ubuntu01:52
tiglionabbitoh01:52
manitoba98xpAnd I can't press the actual button, it's an Apple eMac.01:53
Fator_Deemanitoba98xp: oh01:53
tiglionabbitpicochu: ubuntu is based on debian.  Everything is deb01:53
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Fator_Deemanitoba98xp: I'n not on my gnome comp, but I think you could make a keaboard shortvut that executes "eject" or "eject -t"01:53
roshlamehello01:53
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picochutiglionabbit: come on. it`s more than that. it's like saying Mandrake and Red Hat are the same because they both use rpms01:54
manitoba98xpOK, but how can I assign that to a keyboard shortcut? I don't see any "custom" button or anything.01:54
tiglionabbitmanitoba98xp: um, system->preferences->keboard shortcuts01:54
seliniumI have an old Athlon 900 in my machine, is it worth installing the CPU specific kernel sudo apt-get install linux-k7   ?01:54
manitoba98xpI know, I'm there.01:54
tiglionabbitpicochu: no, but ubuntu is specifically BUILT on debian01:54
manitoba98xpI don't see how I can add a custom shortcut.01:55
tiglionabbitpicochu: read the ubuntu website01:55
GogOT: anyone here used a Canon pixma ip4000r printer over ethernet?01:55
tiglionabbitmanitoba98xp: the eject one doesn't work?01:55
manitoba98xpIt just ejects, I can't get it to take it back in.01:55
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tiglionabbitthe keyboard shortcuts manager is kind of primitive, I know.  I hope they bling it up later01:56
manitoba98xpApparently, they used to allow customization.01:56
tiglionabbitodd01:56
tiglionabbitbut still, the thing's hanging out there, you can just push it back in, right?01:57
looksausabout half a year ago, I mentioned on the ubuntu-bounty-proposals wiki I would be willing to spend ?100 on a gstreamer MIDI bounty01:57
roshlameMy xine-ui puts an error message that it is missing "Audio Codec: MPEG Layer 2/3"01:57
Fator_Deemanitoba98xp: you could make a button on the panel :-\01:57
roshlameDoes anyone know what library exactly i have to download?01:57
picochutiglionabbit: it just said it is based on debian. nothing on deb compatibilty01:57
tiglionabbitroshlame: well, perhaps you need mpeg201:57
looksausis there a way I can still get it included into the http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyBounties01:57
looksaus?01:57
tiglionabbitroshlame: read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats01:58
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roshlamethank you01:58
tiglionabbitit's under the DVD setion01:58
manitoba98xpAha, I think I found the solution.01:58
manitoba98xpI opened gconf-editor and went into apps>metacity01:58
toranhey guys, when will the latest version of fluxbox make it into the repository?01:59
picochutiglionabbit: <quote>   Ubuntu and Debian are distinct but parallel and closely linked systems </quote>01:59
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manitoba98xpThere are 10 customizable commands.01:59
tiglionabbitpicochu: ubuntu's primary way of installing software is through synAPTic, which uses ONLY debian packages.  Everything ubuntu uses to install is a deb package.01:59
tiglionabbitin fact, nearly any debian package can be installed on ubuntu01:59
tiglionabbitbut some can't, I've been told02:00
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bigfoottiglionabbit, thanks. I have found the location via "Run Command." For example, click on the application titled "Archive Manager." The blank on the top will show "file-roller". But is file-roller in the home directory? or bin directory? See, this is my problem.02:00
tiglionabbitquote: Debian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is built".02:00
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picochutiglionabbit: that's what i am asking for are debians deb compatible. so it would seem like debian and ubuntu debs are not entirely compatible... much like RH/Mandrake.02:01
seliniumHas anyone here used a CPU specific kernel before?02:01
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picochuselinium: would you like to rephrase that? cos all kernels are cpu specific02:02
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tiglionabbitpicochu: sure.  In synaptic, tested ubuntu debs have an ubuntu logo next to them02:02
wartyhelp me please02:02
tiglionabbitum, I really need to sleep02:02
goldfish_warty: what;s wrong?02:02
wartyi cant load all of my hoary02:02
tiglionabbithis screen is wigging in X I believe02:03
picochutiglionabbit: what i would like to do is to run debian debs on ubuntu . it's not available from synaptic02:03
nuliukasselinium, i believe that pretty much everyone uses them, excpet ones stuck with default i38602:03
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wartyis loading the kernel and when i have to log in the monitor is flipping02:03
tiglionabbitpicochu: you could add those repositories02:03
picochutiglionabbit i02:03
tiglionabbitsynaptic is just an apt frontend.  It will do anything apt will02:03
seliniumpicochu: On this thread it says to install the CPU specific kernel.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3713 I have an old athlon 90002:03
picochutiglionabbit: i'd love to but they are not GPLed02:04
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psychicdragontoran, fluxbox 0.9.13 is in the backports repository. is that the one you're looking for?02:04
tiglionabbitpicochu: um, so?02:04
toranyaeh02:04
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toranpsychicdragon: how do I install it, then?02:04
tiglionabbitpicochu: you can use dpkg02:04
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picochutiglionabbit: i just want to know if there's any problem before i take the plunge.02:05
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tapiahi02:05
Einhoernchenhi all02:05
Einhoernchenplzzzzzzzzzzzz some fast help02:05
tapiaI'm getting an error while trying to update02:05
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tiglionabbitpicochu: k.  Ubuntu and Debian are pretty similar.  I wouldn't worry too much02:05
tiglionabbittapia: what sort of error?02:05
tapiaSetting up xbase-clients (6.8.2-21) ...02:05
tapiaxbase-clients postinst warning: /etc/X11/xkb/xkbcomp symbolic link points to wrong location /usr/bin/xkbcomp02:05
bigfoottiglionabbit, so to give a specific task: how do i find the location of file-roller, when "Run Applictions" says that it's not in any subdirectory?02:06
psychicdragontoran, http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories, follow the steps there. then search for fluxbox in synaptic02:06
Einhoernchenive installed gnome on my kubuntu and the gnome-bar is missing02:06
tapiaany idea? :-)02:06
nuliukasselinium, kernel-image-(KERNEL VERSION)-k702:06
EinhoernchenWHERE is it?02:06
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Einhoernchen!seen mindspin02:06
seliniumnuliukas: When I installed from the CD what version would it of installed?02:06
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Einhoernchencan anybody tell me? what I've done wrong?02:07
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tiglionabbitbigfoot: find it in the applications menu, right-click and select edit.  You should see the command it uses there.  Oh, and you can use `apropos something` at the terminal to look for stuff that does whatever something is02:07
picochutiglionabbit: coz i remembered reading some deb dev bitching about ubuntu debs not entirely debian compatible02:07
nuliukasselinium, write in terminal uname -r02:07
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tiglionabbitI don't know what the difference is, picochu.  When I need to use an rpm, I just turn it into a deb02:07
warty<goldfish_can u have an idea what the pb is?02:08
Einhoernchenplease guys02:08
roshlametiglionabbit, that does not help me much... i use xine, and it says something about mplayer, I can't even apt-get the mplayer package, perhaps it is no longer supported02:08
bigfoottiglionabbit, right-clicking does'nt give me the option to edit.02:08
goldfish_warty: nope, sorry,02:08
wartyok02:08
seliniumnuliukas: 2.6.10-5-386, So i will go for the K7 version, Cheers for you r help!02:08
goliathello guys02:08
bigfoottiglionabbit, only "Add launcher to panel" and a nesting folder called "Entire menu".02:08
goliatdoes squidguard have a graphical interface on ubuntu02:08
nuliukasselinium, you're welcome :)02:08
tiglionabbitroshlame: you need to add the backports repositories.  The one listed in the faq is down for overtraffic.  Go to http://backports.ubuntuforums.com and read about it02:08
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toranpsychicdragon: I did taht, and then did apt-get update02:09
toranFailed to fetch http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)02:09
Einhoernchen*crys-out-loud*02:09
tiglionabbitI mean backports.ubuntuforums.org02:09
tiglionabbitthat repository is down02:09
tiglionabbitread the site02:09
toranthanks02:09
tiglionabbitoh, gzip. nm02:09
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toranoh :(02:09
Einhoernchenwhere is my taskbar in gnome?02:09
tiglionabbitmaybe it's just that package, in which you should refresh, and maybe add another repository02:09
tiglionabbitEinhoernchen: um, on the bottom of the screen?02:10
Einhoernchennope02:10
Einhoernchenit isnt there02:10
picochuselinium it should work alright. i586/k7/i686 kernels should work fine02:10
Einhoernchen:-(02:10
wartyhow i give reset to hoary?02:10
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Einhoernchenthere is just an empty panel02:10
DanglyBitswhere can we download backports for hoary then ?02:10
seliniumpicochu: cheers02:10
Einhoernchennothin more02:10
bigfoottiglionabbit, anyway i found the command line, by first adding it to my panel. But where in the world is that? Is that the home directory? If so, i don't see it there, even whe i have hidden files shown.02:10
picochuselinium: fingers crossed.02:10
shidook where do I find the modules that get loaded with th "1" and "0" at the end02:10
tiglionabbitright-click the top panel and select "New Panel" and choose tasbar02:10
tiglionabbiteinhorehacnchen02:11
seliniumpicochu: :D02:11
Einhoernchenw00t?02:11
Einhoernchenwait02:11
DanglyBitswhere can we download backports for hoary then ?02:11
tiglionabbitholy crap so many questions, I can't handle all this.02:11
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tiglionabbithttp://backports.ubuntuforums.org/url.php  <-- lists Backports mirrors02:11
wartycan anybody heart about:is loading the kernel and when i have to log in the monitor is flipping,so i cant log in02:11
Einhoernchentiglionabbit, why do i have to "construct" the taskbar myself?02:12
picochutiglionabbit: they should run a bot here to answer faqs02:12
seliniumFor info on getting other repositories goto www.ubuntuguide.org02:12
tiglionabbitpicochu: there's a faqs section on ubuntulinux.com02:12
thoreauputic! help02:12
ubotuI guess help is /msg apt help02:12
tiglionabbitI don't really like ubuntuguide.  It's not very helpful, and doesn't explain to you what it's doing02:12
torancould someone take a look at my apt-get update errors? http://pastebin.ca/1309602:13
wartycan anybody heart about:when is loading the kernel and when i have to log in the monitor is flipping,so i cant log in, is flipping and just flipping02:13
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picochuwarty: can it even boot to single user mode?02:13
tiglionabbityeah, ubuto is a bit messed.  YOu can give ubotu commands by saying "ubotu info something"02:13
Einhoernchenok02:13
Einhoernchenthanx02:13
Einhoernchenbye02:13
wartyi dont know02:13
wartyhow do that?02:14
picochuwarty can you try that?02:14
seliniumHi thoreauptic. Whats up?02:14
bigfootcan anyone tell me where file-roller is located on our hard drives?02:14
tiglionabbittoran: you just need to remove the backports repository, as it is down.  Use one of the mirrors on the site I mentioned02:14
rekatoran: are you sure you want backports?  that seems like the problem.02:14
wartypicochu how do that?02:14
thoreauputichi selinium - same old same old :)02:15
toranI need backports for the latest version of fluxbox :(02:15
rekabigfoot: type which file-roller02:15
tiglionabbityay, someone else answering02:15
tiglionabbittoran: I said, use the mirrors.  Read this site http://backports.ubuntuforums.org02:16
toranok, thanks02:16
toranohhhhh02:16
bigfootreka; thanks it works! You see, i got confused when all i saw as to its path was "file-roller"02:16
bigfootthanks.02:16
torannow I get it02:16
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seliniumI have just installed the CPU specific kernel K7 to my system.... Just going for the reboot now! I may be some time!02:16
torantiglionabbit: I thought you were saying to put that site as the repo02:16
toranno wonder it didn't work02:16
useruserwarty: interrupt grub during the countdown on bootup and select single user from the menu02:16
seliniumthoreauputic: I have just installed the CPU specific kernel K7 to my system.... Just going for the reboot now! I may be some time!02:16
shidowhere do I set audio cards primary , etc02:16
rekabigfoot: np.  'which' is pretty useful.  most exectuables however are usually in /usr/bin02:16
shidowith a "0" or -2 , etc02:16
bigfootreka, it's in usr/bin, as you say.02:17
bigfoothow did you know this command, reka? do you study linux or something?02:17
thoreauputicselinium: should work fine, don't get lost in the Antarctic ;)02:17
bigfootor go through each command of linux?02:17
tiglionabbitbigfoot: I know it too02:17
picochuwarty you need to append the line where you specify the kernel with a the word "single" at the end02:17
tiglionabbitit's standard unix02:17
bigfoottiglionabbit, you did? how come you did'nt tell me? 8-) or did you? 8-)02:17
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rekabigfoot: :-)  picked it up along the way.  you'll begin to learn useful commands as well sooner or later.02:18
tiglionabbitbecause I was swamped with questions, and wanted to make sure it was file-roller with a hyphon02:18
picochuwarty: you'd proabably need to do it interatively at grub's prompt02:18
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bigfootreka, you mean i can't stick to the GUI? 8-)02:18
rekabigfoot: free books: http://www.maththinking.com/boat/booksIndex.html search for "linux" if you want.02:18
wartyok02:18
tiglionabbitbigfoot: the command I ran was "apropos roller"02:18
thoreauputicselinium: such nobility - so british ;-)02:18
wartylet me see02:18
useruserwarty: why do you need to know where the executable is?02:18
tiglionabbituseruser: to tell firefox what to open the file with02:18
picochuthoreauputic': brits aren't that bad ;)02:19
rekabigfoot: sure you can.  but you're usually limited to what you can do with it.02:19
bigfootuseruser, well, because i'm configuring my firefox to open up some programs with certain links.02:19
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userusertiglionabbit: ah. that interface sucks for newbies02:19
userusertiglionabbit: it should use the gnome menu02:19
tiglionabbitI agree.  I was really surprised when it expected me to know where the bin was02:19
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thoreauputicpicochu: I was referring to the genuinely noble situation selinium was quoting: from the sad story of Scott in the Antarctic02:20
thoreauputic:)02:20
picochutiglionabbit ubuntu still needs polishing02:20
tiglionabbityep02:20
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bigfoottiglionabbit, i'm did the apropos roller command, and it's nice coz it tells you files that have the word roller in it, but apropos doesn't say where the file is located in the hard drive.02:20
bigfootor does it? can it?02:20
picochuthoreauputic okay. guess i missed that02:20
thoreauputic:)02:20
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tiglionabbitbigfoot: I know, it doens't.  I wanted to make sure that's what the file was called.  Then, you can say which and use that name02:21
bigfootoh, i see.02:21
tiglionabbituse apropos when you need to know what to run things with02:21
picochuthoreauputic i suspect that he's british... no yanks in the right mind would use the phrase cheers `. ;)....02:21
useruserbigfoot: or if you're not afraid of errors you can try both :)02:21
bigfoothow come "run applications" doesn't show the full path, and just "file-roller" for the path of archive manager? That's not really helpful, is it? 8-)02:22
thoreauputicpicochu: " I may be some time" is what a member of the expedition said before leaving the tent to die in an attempt to save the other surviving people02:22
rekapicochu: aussies use it a lot.02:22
tiglionabbitbigfoot: because there is a variable called $PATH which tells it where to look for the file.02:22
picochureka: only when they are drinking... but then again...have you ever seen a aussie that doesnt? :P02:22
tiglionabbityour computer doesn't have to know02:22
tiglionabbitit finds it02:22
bigfooti don't understand how apropos can help one decide which program to run whatever with, tiglionabbit .02:22
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picochuselinium you're alive!02:23
bigfoottiglionabbit, yes the comp finds it, but not firefox.02:23
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tiglionabbitbigfoot: get on a foreign machine, and say apropos ftp02:23
bigfootpicochu, i'm alive, too02:23
bigfoot8-)02:23
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bigfootwhat's a foreign machine?02:23
picochubigfoot good for you :D02:23
krzysiekhello02:23
bigfootI have only one pc here.02:23
tiglionabbitthere are a lot of different ftp programs.  You might profit from knowing which ones are around02:23
seliniumpicochu: Popped back to the tent for tea and biscuits! :)02:23
krzysiekI got a question02:23
tiglionabbitoh, I mean someone else's box02:23
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tiglionabbitor you can do it for yourself02:23
goldfish_krzysiek: ask away02:23
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krzysiekhow to switch from Hoary to Hoary for amd64?02:23
tiglionabbitit's a quick search through applications you've got02:24
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picochutea? ...it's barely past noon in uk!02:24
goldfish_krzysiek: em....02:24
krzysiekis this possible to do this with apt?02:24
thoreauputicselinium: you are using up our ration supply! Get out there again!02:24
thoreauputic*g*02:24
seliniumLOL02:24
useruserpicochu: so? optimal behaviour is to be on a tea drip 24/7. it's always time for tea02:24
bigfoottiglionabbit, i see. i'm not sure though when i'll be needing to do this apropos command. Can you give me a specific anecdote where this command helped you?02:24
tiglionabbitheheh, on debian I had a program called "wtf".  You could say "wtf is firefox" or "wtf is emacs" and it would tell you the one-liner describing it in its manual page02:24
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picochuthoreauputic: as long as he stays away from the beer. I'm fine with that02:24
picochuuseruser: replace tea with beer02:25
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thoreauputicpicochu: nah, the beer is useless - it's frozen solid ;)02:25
krzysiekI got cd with hoary for amd64 but it doesn't want to install (error on "installing base system")02:25
tiglionabbitin fact, I want to install wtf.  It was fun02:25
seliniumpicochu: 13:30 About time for a little luncheon. Cucumber sandwich anyone?02:25
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useruserpicochu: well, as long as you don't try both at once02:25
rekatiglionabbit: it's in bsdgames iirc02:25
krzysiekI installed hoary for x86 and now I would like to replace packages for amd64 architecture02:25
thoreauputicselinium: my dear Oscar - please refrain02:25
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bigfootselinium, hook me up with some cucumber sandwhiches. Add some turkey meat and gravy to mine, please!02:25
picochuuseruser: after the tenth pint you can'02:26
picochucan`t tell the difference02:26
mezgrr02:26
tiglionabbitreka: thank you!  you are correct02:26
mezdamn you peopel talkign abotu alcohol02:26
mezI want my Vodka nbow02:26
bigfootselinium, oh, and the cucumbers are optional on mine..02:26
rekatiglionabbit: so it's installed by default on debian?02:26
bigfoottiglionabbit, any specific instances when the apropos command was helpful for you?02:26
seliniumbigfoot: LOL where do you want it mailed?02:27
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tiglionabbitreka: no, I think I used dselect to pull the games packages for me02:27
tiglionabbiton install02:27
bigfootum, just email it me, selinium.02:27
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bigfootvegemite is salty stuff!02:27
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picochuvegemite... haven't seen that for ages02:27
tiglionabbitbigfoot: it's helpful all the time02:27
selinium /me lifts his cup and saucer to sip [little finger extended] 02:27
herpesmarmite is nicer02:27
rekanothing like salt on toast :-)02:27
userusers/Vegemite/Marmite/g02:27
herpesmuch nicer02:27
toranyay selinium!02:28
torangotta have that pinky up :P02:28
thoreauputicselinium: i say, Old Chap - nice to see there are a few gents with manners remaining02:28
bigfoottiglionabbit, i'm sorry for my lack of experience, but at this point in time, i don't see how it can help me. THat's why i'd like to ask you how it _specific_ stories of how it helped you.02:28
tiglionabbitbigfoot: like the example I gave.  Say 'apropos ftp' and look at what it lists.  Those are all different ftp programs you can use!02:28
picochuuseruser: some how those vegimite reminds me of cod liver oil.....02:28
tiglionabbitbigfoot: I'm just trying to get you comfortable with a few unixisms02:29
bigfoottiglionabbit, thanks for making it clear to me with your 2nd to last message. I undersnand.02:29
thoreauputicpicochu: both should be used sparingly and with discretion..02:29
seliniumthoreauputic: a few of of left to carry on the principles of crochet and Pimm's on a hot summers day!02:29
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tiglionabbit=p no need for sarcasm.  And that was just a near repetition of my second message02:29
seliniumthoreauputic: a few of of left to carry on the principles of croquet and Pimm's on a hot summers day!02:30
picochuthoreauputic they should put biohazard sign on those two02:30
bigfoottiglionabbit, i don't know... should i whip out a memo and start recording this commands i'm learning in this chatroom (i.e. which, apropos, ...) ?02:30
seliniumCroquet even!02:30
useruserselinium: heh. crocheting while pissed on pimms sounds more fun02:30
tiglionabbitbigfoot: no, you should go to the library and pick up a book on basic unix02:30
thoreauputicselinium: heh - actually croquet is a killer aggressive game, when you think about the tactics :)02:30
seliniumuseruser: Indeed!02:30
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seliniumthoreauputic: it depends which balls you swing at! :)02:31
thoreauputicheheh02:31
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picochubigfoot have you tried USAHB? aka the purple book?02:31
tiglionabbitbigfoot: or read this pdf: http://nick-zap.home.comcast.net/stuff/unix.pdf02:31
bigfoottiglionabbit, i finally found the program for firefox to use. but how can i make that program the default program that firefox loads when i left-click the link?02:31
bigfootpicochu, no. i don't know either book.02:31
picochubigfoot: Unix Sys Admin Handbook02:32
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picochuit was red before that02:32
useruserbigfoot: there are less intimidating short guides on the net, I'm sure02:32
bigfootDo i have to be a geek to use Linux?02:32
tiggggrit sure helps02:32
bigfootI don't want to be any geekier than i already am. ...02:32
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SysFailno, but you have to be willing to use google02:32
picochubigfoot: no you just need to know the secret hand shake02:32
thoreauputicbigfoot: no, you just turn into a geek without noticing it ;)02:32
seliniumbigfoot: I hope not!02:33
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bigfootMy eyes are saying "Please. No more geek-factor upgrade. Please, stay away from too much time on the computer!"02:33
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useruserbigfoot: maybe the rute book is in ubuntu - apt-get install rutebook02:33
thoreauputicbigfoot: "The geek shall inherit the earth " ;-)02:33
seliniumbigfoot: ONe thing I have noticed, people have stopped asking me to fix there Windows PCs, Fabulous!02:34
picochudamn cat wants to type too. just jumped on my kb02:34
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picochuthoreauputic: all your bases are belong to us (geeks);)02:34
bigfootI knew that Linux was for geeks years ago. But i though that the linux of today is, or should be, or will be, good enough, easy enough for Windows users, like our low-tech grandmothers, to make the switch....02:34
rekabigfoot: and have you found it to be true?02:35
lamontbigfoot: that's the goal02:35
bigfootselinium, why the stop? Coz they switched to Linux?02:35
useruserbigfoot: you read the hype. you believed the hype. you lose :P02:35
useruserbigfoot: seriously, read http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/book/ when you have time02:35
bigfootWell, i really don't have to go under the hood to use basic stuff like email and webbrowsing.02:35
thoreauputicbigfoot: for most stuff, once set up, that's true now (It's the setting up that rquires geekery)02:35
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picochufrankly guys. I'd recommend Mac for those lusers ;P02:35
bigfootsetting up my comp was a hoary breeze!02:36
picochuit's still unix!02:36
bigfoot8-)02:36
seliniumbigfoot: No because i did. For some reason they think I have forgotten 10 years of windows over night..... :)02:36
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bigfootselinium,  i see.02:36
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thoreauputicpicochu: yes, but the unix in OS-X is more hidden02:36
tiglionabbitpicochu: I thought it was "Not Unix"02:36
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thoreauputictiglionabbit: he meant OS-X I think02:37
picochutiglionabbit: i mean OSX02:37
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seliniumbigfoot: I am not sure how my Grandmother would take to having a hoary hedgehog on her machine... She's a little old fashioned!02:37
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bigfootuseruser, i added that rute book as a bookmark.02:37
leonelAnyone with ubuntu as a Produccition  www/dns/mail/database server   how it goes  knowing that ubuntu is desktop oriented ?02:38
picochuthoreauputic but OS X has a screwed up way of mounting remote file systems02:38
thoreauputicpicochu: indeed02:38
rekaam i the only one with grandparents who don't use computers?02:38
podgeAnyone here got a Pioneer 108?02:38
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picochuthoreauputic: those apple programmers were probably smoking grass when they work on that02:39
goldfish_reka: Nope.02:39
bigfooti wonder we all will still be using computers when we become hoary greyheads/baldies ourselves...02:39
seliniumreka: she only uses the 'cup holder' on the front! :P02:39
thoreauputicpicochu: I use Ubuntu on my iBook partly because it works easily with my NFS network setup (OS-X *will* do it, but I can't be bothered learning how)02:39
reka:-)02:39
picochuthoreauputic: mount? anyway i installed fink on my PB02:40
seliniumbigfoot: I'd watch it some of us already are!02:40
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picochuthoreauputic: so all those much needed unix stuffs are all there02:40
thoreauputicpicochu: I played with fink - but then I realised I already had all the apps I wanted in newer versions on lInux anyway :)02:40
bigfootselinium, oops. what i meant was when we become senior citizens.02:40
[1] damnwhile i am playing mp3s if i start to copy shit off a cd the mp3 start stutter anybody got an idea of what happing02:41
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thoreauputic[1] damn: how would *you* feel if someone copied shit onto *you* ?02:41
seliniumbigfoot: No worries! I am a little of that yet!02:42
picochuthoreauputic: i need proper driver support for my hardware, particularly my 3d gfx card... Damn H^MDell bastards won't fix the drivers coz they don't support linux02:42
[1] damnkinda turn on :P02:42
thoreauputic[1] damn: look into the dma settings on your drive02:42
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bigfootuseruser, installing rutebook. Wow, it's a 6MB book!02:42
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[1] damnthoreauputic: where02:43
smithrutebook?02:43
thoreauputic[1] damn:  man hdparm02:43
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[1] damnthanks02:43
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[1] damnand have they stopped doing the ubuntuguide.org add-on cd02:44
rekaok, dumb question.  is there a reference to which device corresponds to which in /dev?  for instance, what's the difference b/n cdrom and cdrw?02:44
thoreauputic[1] damn: yes - it was illegal02:44
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bigfoothow come pdf's don't open in my firefox? I can view PDFs, but not in firefox.02:44
[1] damnoh nut02:45
krzysiekehh no answer02:45
picochureka just follow the links02:45
krzysiekcome on guys02:45
thoreauputicbigfoot: plugin missing02:45
krzysiekhow to switch packages from x86 to amd64?02:45
krzysiekwithout reinstalling of course02:45
thoreauputicbigfoot: you can get an acroread plugin if you really think it's a good idea (I don't, personally)02:45
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bigfootthoreauputic, okay. can i get a plugin that will load up fast? In other words, I don't need features such as inline searching, print preview, etc. I just need a basic PDF viewer.02:46
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rekaeww, acroread.02:46
bigfootthoreauputic, how do _you_ view PDF files?02:46
cumiihello room02:46
bigfoot... if you don't have the acroread plugin?02:46
thoreauputicbigfoot: I just open them in xpdf02:46
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bigfoothello, cumii.02:46
Goshawkdoes anybody know something about google's summer code?02:46
picochubigfoot there's xpdf you know02:46
cumiihow to play mpg / avi / rm in ubuntu ?02:47
tiglionabbitbigfoot: any ghostscritp viewer will work too, like gv02:47
bigfootthoreauputic, i believe i have xpdf too. I think it was preinstalled by ubuntu.02:47
seliniumkrysiek: What are you using at the mo?02:47
thoreauputicbigfoot: correct02:47
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thoreauputicbigfoot: and it should appear as an option when you click on a pdf in ff02:47
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ianhello ppl..02:47
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thoreauputicbigfoot: if not, go to edit > preferences and enable it02:48
cumiibigfoot : how to play mpg on ubuntu ?02:48
tiglionabbitwell i really need some sleep.  I hope I was helpful to people.  And wow, thanks for that Rute Users Guide, looks like fun reading02:48
bigfootit looks prehistoric, but because it does, i'm led to believe that it loads fast, and without any slow-speed-inducing extra features!02:48
tiglionabbitcumii: get mpeg codecs.  Run vlc or xine or mplayer02:48
thoreauputicbigfoot: it is fast - and it works rather well02:48
bigfoottiglionabbit, you were helpful. thank you. g'night.02:48
picochutiglionabbit later02:48
tiglionabbit=} thank you02:48
thoreauputicbigfoot: if you want something prettier, install "evince"02:48
seliniumtiglionabbit: Sleep well!02:48
iani have a problem.. i tried to compile a kiax source..when i compiled it ..an error occured... xpm.h something is missing..when i tried to look the dir..which it points out..there is no xpm.h... what is this header? what package do i need to enable? :(02:49
bigfootthoreauputic, the question is, though, what if the pdf file yo want to read is not a hyperlink? then you can't rightclick anything? What if i have the URL of the pdf? how then can i view the pdf?02:49
picochushouldn't that be telinit 1?02:49
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picochu:P02:49
picochui mean telinit 002:49
bigfootthoreauputic, i don't need something prettier for pretty's sake. i'm more after speed. It seems that loading pdf files take a longer time than regular html, because adobe acrobat takes a long time to open up.02:50
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plovsanybody know where I can find docs on how to modify the install-cd (live-cd i found)02:50
rekabigfoot: if you've set it up right.  xpdf will start up and load it for you , just not in the browser page like acroread.02:50
bigfootpicochu, why did you virtual-slap me?02:50
picochuian have you gone thru with the list of required packages? you might be missing one.02:50
thoreauputicbigfoot: well, you can download it ( e.g. wget -c http:// bah.foo.pdf )02:50
cumiithx02:50
seliniumI have installed rutebook, how do i start it?02:50
picochubigfoot: do i need a reason :D02:50
bigfootthoreauputic, but if i put the url into FF, it won't work right?02:50
bigfootpicochu, oh, so you're insane, then 8-)02:51
thoreauputicbigfoot:  dunno - haven't tried it02:51
ianpicochu: yes i think so.. when i read the install is says it only needs qt3..02:51
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thoreauputicbigfoot: it should pop up a dialog where you can choose your app, AFAIK02:51
rekabigfoot: edit->prefs : download section02:51
bigfootreka, but the pdf _still_  must be a link in a webpage, right?02:51
picochuian. the qt3 devels  do you have them installed?02:51
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spanglesontoastgot problems with xsession02:52
bigfootafaik, thoreauputic ?02:52
spanglesontoastand something about ice02:52
rekaactually, that might not work02:52
thoreauputicas far as I know02:52
bigfootthoreauputic, no pop up dialog.02:52
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thoreauputicbigfoot: what's the url?02:53
bigfootthoreauputic, http://nick-zap.home.comcast.net/stuff/unix.pdf02:53
ianpicochue: yes i haved.. when i search xpm in synaptic..there are many packages found.. what do i need to installed?:(02:53
bigfootreka,  edit->prefs : download -> plugins. I looked up PDF. It is enabled. But why the problem?02:53
ianpicochue: yes i have..installed qt3 dev02:54
picochuian your guess is as good as mine02:54
[1] damnwhat do i need to install to play m4a file's02:54
bigfootreka, oh, i see, the plugin only works if it's a hyperlink, right? Not if the URL is put into the addressbar, right?02:54
thoreauputicbigfoot: wget  http://nick-zap.home.comcast.net/stuff/unix.pdf| xpdf02:54
ianpicochue: what do you mean?02:54
floater_hi wodup. I tried to reconfigure my x and changed 'glide' to 'mga'. First with glide it said 'failed to load module glide and now with mga it says 'mga_hal does not exists'. I have a matrox mga g200 agp videocard on pci bus1 device 0 function 0. When configuring I chose pci 1,0,0 I think02:54
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seliniumbigfoot: i have installed rutebook with synaptic. Do you know how to view it?02:54
bigfootthoreauputic, okay, thanks for teaching me the wget command, but is there no simpler way with firefox?02:54
bigfootselinium, um, run rutebook?02:55
thoreauputicbigfoot: *shrug* right click, save as ?02:55
cumiianyone know where is link to download xine ?02:55
rekabigfoot: no a dialog box should pop up when any xpdf document is loaded, either by hyperlink or directly in the url bar02:55
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reka*pdf document02:55
seliniumbigfoot: sadly, no :(02:55
bigfootthoreauputic, i know! but like i said, what if it's not a hyperlink? What if i just got that URL from, say, in this chatroom?02:55
picochuian. coz i have frankly no idea whiat the correct package is for your xpm.h.02:56
rekacumii: easy way: search for xine in synaptic02:56
ianpicochu: :( ic..02:56
bigfootselinium, overkill?02:56
bigfootoh no. wrong.02:56
thoreauputicbigfoot: I just told you a one second command to get it02:56
bigfootokay.02:57
seliniumbigfoot: ?02:57
thoreauputicwget isn't hard, surely?02:57
picochuian: care to tell me what were you trying to compile02:57
smithman?02:57
bigfootselinium, i give up. how do you open rutebook?02:57
seliniumbigfoot: no idea! I have it installed, but I dont know how! LOL02:57
bigfootoh, i thought you were going to teach me if i told you i didn't know. Now i see we both don't know.02:58
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picochuselinium: it's automagic i tell you ;D02:58
thoreauputicselinium: try  dpkg -L rutebook to see the files it installed02:58
smithhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/doc/rutebook02:58
bigfootselinium, something like a knock-knock question, i supposed.02:58
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smithhtml and pdf02:58
ianpicochu: im compiling kiax a voip softphone for iax protocol.. i planning to shift to linux.. im still using windows.. this one app that i need.. i found kiax  http://kiax.sourceforge.net/en_download.html02:58
seliniumthoreauputic: Just done that!02:58
seliniumbigfoot: /usr/share/doc/rutebook/html02:59
[1] damnwhat do i need to install to play m4a file's02:59
bigfootselinium, oh, it's just an html file? no different from viewing it online, is it?02:59
seliniumbigfoot: nope03:00
[1] damnin ru03:00
picochuian, you know there a kiax-Debian package03:00
bigfootok, time to delete rutebook!03:00
seliniumbigfoot: there is a pdf aswell03:00
bigfoot8-)03:00
bigfootoh, is there?03:00
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ianpicochu: yes..i have download it.. but it cannot be installed :(03:00
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picochuian: bummer03:00
smithI prefer "googlebook"03:00
seliniumbigfoot: /usr/share/doc/rutebook/rute.pdf.gz03:00
Munkeyhi people03:00
ianpicochu: bummer? what is that?  :(03:01
bigfoothi person.03:01
ianpicochu: :)03:01
Munkeyi just installed Ubuntu on my other pc, and i booted it up for the first time, and it says "Grub Hard Disk error"03:01
bigfootsmith, what's googlebook?03:01
Munkeyhelp? :s03:01
smithnot yet03:01
smithbut ...03:01
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the_fenrillhi03:01
picochuian: does the binary tar ball work?03:01
jjessehello03:02
smithjjesse-_- hello03:02
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bigfoothow do i uninstall rutebook from console?03:02
ianpicochu: nope.. so thats why im planning to compiled it..03:02
rekaMunkey: does the error give more detail?03:02
drummer87hi all again... is it possible to make windows minimize when their titlebar is double clicked?03:02
picochuian: you're making my life difficult aren't you ;)03:02
Munkeynope, it just says that03:03
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thoreauputicbigfoot: sudo apt-get remove rutebook (if you installed with synaptic/apt)03:03
rekadrummer87: sys->prefs-?windows03:03
rekaprefs->windows03:03
bigfootthoreauputic, i installed it via console.03:03
seliniumAnyone here using rsync ?03:03
seliniumbigfoot: It is a big book!03:04
thoreauputicbigfoot: umm - you used apt or not?03:04
Munkeyhang on, i'll try installing ubuntu again, perhaps i screwed up something in the installation process, probably during the partition part03:04
drummer87reka: that only has maximize and roll-up03:04
picochuselinium: yeah bit can it beat war and peace? ;)03:04
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bigfootthoreauputic, i ran this command: sudo apt-get install rutebook03:04
bigfooti guessi it's apt.03:05
bigfootwhy? are there other ways to install?03:05
thoreauputicbigfoot: then run the command I gave you above03:05
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ianpicochu: heheheheh... i have sucessfully compiled. it.. and run the checkinstall.. and it was succesfull..what do i do next? :)03:05
smith...03:06
seliniumpicochu: nohing like a bit of light reading at bedtime..... And that is nothing liek a bit of light reading!03:06
rekadrummer87: ah, my mistake.  what's wrong with clicking on the _ bar?  you're up there anyway? note: you can set up a k/b shortcut03:06
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drummer87reka, i guess.. but that's less like osx :)03:07
smithhow to build a debian system like gentoo does?03:07
drummer87i can live with that though03:07
picochuian: you tell me. i don't use that. :)03:07
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picochusmith you don't ubuntu is not gentoo03:08
spanglesontoastgot problems with gnome03:09
spanglesontoasthttp://pastebin.com/29325403:09
picochuselinium: if you take up speed reading.. .. I bet you can finish it in a day or two :P03:09
dooglusthoreauputic: your "wget http://nick-zap.home.comcast.net/stuff/unix.pdf| xpdf" command has a couple of problems03:10
dooglusfirst, wget writes to a file, not stdout by default, so there's nothing going into the pipe03:10
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dooglussecond, xpdf doesn't read from stdin, so there's nothing being read from the pipe03:10
thoreauputicdooglus: OK - I just thought it would work: i guess the pipe doesn't03:10
seaPig|wrkwould that make it a pipe dream?03:11
thoreauputicdooglus: thanks for the correction03:11
dooglusthoreauputic: you can "wget -O- http:/..." if you want to write to stdout03:11
dooglusthoreauputic: but I don't know if xpdf can read a document from a pipe anyway03:11
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thoreauputicah - useful, thanks03:11
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floater_hi wodup. I tried to reconfigure my x and changed 'glide' to 'mga'. First with glide it said 'failed to load module glide and now with mga it says 'mga_hal does not exists'. I have a matrox mga g200 agp videocard on pci bus1 device 0 function 0. When configuring I chose pci 1,0,0 I think03:12
floater_thoreauputic you know anything bout that ? shuold I choose vga then ?03:12
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spanglesontoasthttp://pastebin.com/29325403:12
dooglusif you want to view gzipped pdf files, you can use zxpdf, for example "zxpdf /usr/share/doc/rutebook/rute.pdf.gz"03:12
spanglesontoastgnome issue03:12
thoreauputicfloater_: way over my head I'm afraid :)03:13
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Ottomanhi03:13
floater_hmm03:13
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OttomanI have a problem, I cannot get sound in Quake 3 under Hoary03:13
anatolehi03:13
Ottomanall other sound works03:14
floater_I can't start x... pretty sux03:14
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Ottomanhow can I see what the version is for my AC97 VIA soundcard?03:14
toranhey guys, I'm getting the following error when trying to install a KDE program from source: checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!03:14
toranI'm on kubuntu, and I have libqt3 stuff installed. What's the deal?03:15
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Munkeyum03:15
Munkeysome help again :p03:15
spanglesontoastottoman have you got two sound cards?03:15
Ottomanno03:15
picochutoran: do you have lib qt3 dev installed?03:15
spanglesontoasteasy03:15
spanglesontoasthang on03:15
Munkeyoh nm, i figured it out03:15
toranpicochu: lemme check03:15
Munkeypebcak03:15
Riddelltoran: install kdelibs4-dev03:15
picochuMunkey do you need a LART?03:16
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toranthanks03:16
spanglesontoastyou want subwoofer to work etc?03:16
confuserhello all :)03:16
Ottomanif that's possible yes03:16
spanglesontoastok hang on03:16
Ottomanhello confuser03:16
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rekafloater: what does lspci | grep -i matrox say?03:16
spanglesontoasthttp://pastebin.com/29325603:16
confuseri am new in linux, can i ask questions ?03:17
spanglesontoastmake a file called .asoundrc03:17
OttomanI'd like to learn a thing or 2 on Linux sound, as I'm working so that Ubuntu is my only OS03:17
floater_reka, wait a minute, I go check *runs to the other pc*03:17
spanglesontoastin your home dir03:17
MunkeyI'm still getting this GRUB Hard Disk Error :/03:17
spanglesontoastof the user you are using now03:17
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spanglesontoastyou done that?03:17
Munkeyanyone know what might be causing the problem?03:17
OttomanI'm about to03:18
toranRiddell: installed that, and I'm still getting the error03:18
spanglesontoastok well at least you didn't have to wait 10 hours to sort it lol03:18
rekaconfuser: sure03:18
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confuserthanks03:18
dooglusis there a 'gnome' PDF viewer?03:18
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gwmHow do I manage which services should or should not start when I boot?03:19
rekadooglus: gnome-gv03:19
tritiumdooglus, check out evince03:19
dooglusMunkey: ubuntu's GRUB loader trashed my laptop.  I had to go back to lilo to be able to boot anything at all.03:19
spanglesontoastoh03:19
floater_reka: 0000:01:00.0 VGA Compatible Controller Matrox inc and some numbers03:19
spanglesontoastottoman03:19
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Munkeyarg03:19
dooglusreka, tritium: thanks03:19
spanglesontoastremember the filename is .asoundrc03:19
Munkeyso i cant use ubuntu on my laptop?03:19
rekafloater_: "MGA XXX" where XXX is G650, G750 or Parhelia?03:20
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floater_G20003:20
confuseri dont see my fat32 (windows) partition on "place > computer" are they gone or ... ?03:20
Riddelltoran: might need to set --with-qt-headers=/usr/include/qt3  (check exact wording)03:20
rekadooglus: i've tried others but always come back to xpdf though03:20
floater_reka: G200 AGP (rev 01)03:20
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Ottomanspanglesontoast, done03:21
rekaconfuser: http://ubuntuguide.org/#windows03:21
toranstill getting the error03:21
Ottomanpm me maybe, it's easier03:21
spanglesontoastok03:21
Ottoman:)03:21
toranRiddell: by the way, it seems that libqt3-dev and kdelibs4-dev are mutually exclusive03:21
anatolei have a question: hungarian words with accents do not show.. setting the locale on latin2 did not solve it, plus, setting locales to any other than en_US is a horror03:21
rekafloater_: hmm, not sure.  i would've recommended this: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto, but i'm not sure if your card is supported.03:21
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dooglusreka: I don't like gnome-gv much03:22
dooglustritium: I can't find evince03:22
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tritiumdooglus, it's in universe03:22
Amaranthevince has replaced gpdf in breezy03:23
confuseri am not familiar with the desktop opetarion, is this gnome that cause it ?03:23
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anatolei mean i have filenames like this: 03 - J??lia nem akar a f??ld??n j??rni (Nap??leon Boulevard).mp303:23
confuseroperation03:23
dooglusok, here's something I don't understand...03:23
dooglus$ dpkg -l '*evince*'03:23
Amaranthanatole: the file's name wasn't utf-803:23
dooglusNo packages found matching *evince*.03:23
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Amaranthdooglus: apt-cache search evince03:23
dooglusaccording to dpkg, no packages have "evince" in their name03:23
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Amaranthdooglus: dpkg only shows what you have installed03:24
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dooglusAmaranth: I don't think so - it shows me some stuff I don't have installed, too03:24
anatoleAmaranth: it wasn't... should it be? is there no way to show letters with accents?03:24
Amaranthanatole: utf-8 supports pretty much every language you can think of ;)03:24
Amaranthanatole: you just need to rename the file, it should be in utf-8 after that03:24
dooglusAmaranth: for instance, "dpkg -l kde" shows:03:24
dooglusun  kde            <none>         (no description available)03:24
floater_reka: I can't install linux headers for now so I can't install that :i (no network) What if I try just choose 'vga' ?03:25
spanglesontoasthttp://pastebin.com/293254 help me with my gnome problem03:25
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dooglusI have never installed kde on ubuntu, yet dpkg -l shows it03:25
Amaranthdooglus: don't know about that, i just know that you should use apt-cache search03:25
rekafloater_: i haven't been following you're problem.  you're saying you can't start X?03:25
anatoleAmaranth: yay thanks03:25
tritiumdooglus, make sure you have universe enabled, and then use apt-cache search to look for it03:25
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anatolethe problem is that i have to do this with every friiggin file from windows -_-03:26
confuseri am not familiar with the desktop opetarion, is this gnome that cause it ?03:26
dooglusapt-cache works fine - thanks for that.  but what I'm trying to understand is why dpkg -l shows some stuff and not other stuff03:26
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Einhoernchen!seen mindspin03:26
tritiumdooglus, it only shows installed packages03:26
floater_reka: yea, can't start x.. after installation of kubuntu when I tried to startx it said 'unable to load module glide' then I tried to reconfigure xserver-xorg and changed glide to mga but now it says 'cannot find mga_hal' . Could I choose just 'vga' instead?03:27
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dooglustritium: it shows some packages that I've never installed, too.  like 'kde' for example (see above)03:27
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tritiumdooglus, dpkg -l | grep kde should return nothing if you haven't installed it03:27
thoreauputicspanglesontoast: it appears to be trying to start icewm ....03:27
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spanglesontoastwhy?03:28
dooglustritium: dpkg -l | grep kde returns nothing, but dpkg -l '*kde*' returns a few lines.03:28
rekafloater_: yes i'd try vga.  at least you might be able to log in.  note that using reconfigure isn't that great an idea.  it tends to stuff up you're xorg file.  it's better to edit xorg.conf directly, making backups of course.03:28
spanglesontoastit's only started to do that after I had install americas army03:28
tritiumdooglus, read the man page for dpkg for correct usage03:28
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dooglustritium: it says:               dpkg -l | --list package-name-pattern ...03:29
dooglus                  List packages matching given pattern.03:29
floater_what you mean stuff up ?03:29
dooglusso dpkg -l '*kde*' is correct usage, isn't it?03:29
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thoreauputicreka: your recommendation flies in the face of all received Debian wisdom :)03:29
rekafloater_: adds a lot of stuff that clutters it up.03:30
rekathoreauputic: heh, perhaps i should have added "IMHO". :-)03:30
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ianhello ppl.. what does .a files in linux?03:31
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dooglusian: it's a static library03:31
confusersudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t vfat -o umask=000 mounts my fat32 partition#1, how we mounts #2 partiton ? please help03:31
iandooglus: i have compiled one.. where will i put this one?03:32
dooglusian: more generally, it's an "ar" archive.  run "ar t file.a" to see a list of its contents03:32
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spanglesontoastback03:32
dooglusian: being a static library, it has to be used at compile time.  are you going to compile something that needs that library?03:32
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iandooglus: ic... i want to compiled kiax and it says it needs to have the iaxclient..so i compiled it..i both succesfully compiled it.. but an error occured.03:34
ianian@ubuntu:~/Desktop/kiax/iaxclient$ kiax03:34
ianQt: Locales not supported on X server03:34
ianWed Jun 1 21:34:30 2005 Using IAXClient ver. CVS-2005/06/01-20:2103:34
ianWed Jun 1 21:34:30 2005 IaxWrapper::iaxc_initialize() result = -103:34
ianError message:cannot initialize iaxclient!03:34
ianExitting application. Possible reason: Device initialization failed.03:34
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tritiumian, please don't paste03:34
iantritium: sorry.. :( im new.. it wont happen again..03:35
tritiumian, no problem :)03:35
spanglesontoastwhat's the name of sessions manager03:35
spanglesontoastfor gnome03:35
iandooglus: what do you think what's wrong? :(03:36
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herpesspanglesontoast, gnome-session-properties??03:36
seliniumhow do i change the password of a remote root with SSH?03:36
phendhi all. i've just created a patch for something, then applied it with patch -p1 filename < patchname03:36
phendbut i need to undo it, does anyone know the command?03:36
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abelliciao everybody.03:37
spanglesontoastah03:37
spanglesontoastty03:37
abellidoes airport xtreme work with linux?03:37
Amaranthphend: this probably isn't it, but maybe turn the < into a >? :)03:37
thoreauputicabelli: no03:37
Amaranthphend: make sure to back up the file first ;)03:37
Amaranthno, wait03:37
Amaranthdon't do that03:37
dooglusian: I don't know, sorry.03:37
abellithoreauputic: ouueeeeeeeeeeeeee03:37
rekaherpes: er, nice nick. :-)03:37
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phendAmaranth, not sure about that. i remember the command a long time ago, but forgot it now03:37
abellithoreauputic: will ever?03:37
herpesreka, thanks03:38
iandooglus : no probs..03:38
thoreauputicabelli: some people are working on it - but broadcom won't co-operate03:38
dooglusian: what is iax?03:38
thoreauputicabelli: http://linux-bcom4301.sourceforge.net/03:38
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abellithoreauputic: thx03:39
iandooglus: its a voip protocol.. i need a softphone..03:39
dooglusok.03:39
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dooglusian: did you install the iaxclient after making it?03:39
podgethoreauputic, Basically don't buy Broadcom..03:40
Munkeyis LILO on the Ubuntu distro?03:40
thoreauputicpodge: basically, yes03:40
rekaconfuser: change the source to /dev/hda2 perhaps for the second partition?03:40
ianit there any one who nows..a ubuntu package.. that is an softphone that support iax protocol VOIP..03:40
thoreauputicpodge: but I have an iBook G4 , so I'm out of luck....03:40
podgethoreauputic, These companies have users asking them for support.. and they throw it in their faces.. quick way to go out of business..03:40
herpesMunkey, yes, but it is not the default boot loader03:40
spanglesontoasthey03:41
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Munkeyhow do i make it the default boot loader/03:41
spanglesontoasthow can I stop the error I get03:41
spanglesontoastwhen trying to start gnome03:41
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podgethoreauputic, Yeah.. Understood. Hopefully the Linux driver hackers get it working soon!03:41
thoreauputicpodge: I think the problem is they see Linux as a tiny market, so they don't care03:41
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podgethoreauputic, Which in turn gives their competitors the sale..03:42
thoreauputicpodge: indeed03:42
thoreauputicself-fulfilling prophecy...03:42
podgethoreauputic, Why should they even consider supporting a Mac? The market is tiny compared to Windows..03:43
Munkeyherpes: how do i make LILO the default boot loader?03:43
thoreauputicpodge: which still doesn't excuse the secrecy03:43
spanglesontoastwhat's this mean03:43
spanglesontoast/etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: running: /usr/bin/X11/sessreg -a -w /var/log/wtmp -u /var/run/utmp -x "/var/lib/gdm/:0.Xservers" -h "" -l ":0" "edd"03:43
tritiumpodge, that's their same logic for not supporting linux03:43
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AmaranthIt's easier to make a driver for a mac then it is for linux.03:43
podgethoreauputic, That is the wrong thinking though.. A tiny amount of R&D budget to develop Linux drivers would satisfy the Linux community..03:43
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thoreauputicpodge: you are preaching to the converted here ;)03:44
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tritiumpodge, they need to be convinced that there's a large enough market to make that investment profitable03:44
thoreauputictritium: chicken & egg - "the market is too small" - but if the drivers etc were available the market would be bigger.. and so on03:45
AmaranthThey can't just make one linux driver and leave it. They have to make one for each 2.6.x release and possibly one for each distro. Either that or they have to create a wrapper around the kernel that they update for every version and make it open source so the end-user can build it.03:46
podgetritium, The amount of money they stand to gain from an exercise such as Linux driver development would be large enough..03:46
tritiumpodge, I don't think that they are convinced of that yet, or they'd be doing it.03:46
podgetritium, Essentially ATI was hung out to dry in regards to Linux because Nvidia wrote good drivers..03:46
toxicfum1why is it that linux programs don't come compiled?03:47
tritiumI'm not arguing with you, it's just a matter of convincing them.03:47
thoreauputicAmaranth: as far as I know, Broadcom won't even release specs so people can write an open source driver?03:47
thoreauputictoxicfum1: most of them do !03:47
tritiumthoreauputic, yep, I know what you mean03:47
confuserreka: thanks for your support :)03:47
herpesMunkey, i dont know. How bout you install it if you have a working system and see what happens or you could google for an answer or look at the wiki or forums03:47
podgetritium, Send them the occassional email explaining that you didn't buy their products because they don't support Linux..03:47
toxicfum1thoreauputic: a lot of them dont :/03:47
rekaconfuser: did it work?03:47
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thoreauputictoxicfum1: which program did you want?03:48
klimahallo03:48
klimalittle problem...03:48
klimathere's anyone that can help me?03:48
toxicfum1thoreauputic: i wanted to install my intel wireless card's drivers03:48
thoreauputicklima: just ask - don't ask to ask03:49
podgetritium, What do you think make Nvidia release Linux display drivers?03:49
toxicfum1and it's all .c and .h files03:49
Munkeythats the problem, i dont have a working system :/03:49
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Munkeyoh bugger it, i'll just stick to XP03:50
Munkeycheers for the help folks03:50
klimaI have integrated video card, intel extreme graphic 2 with 865G chipset, and syncmaster 710V lcd screen but it don't work with native resolution ,1280x102403:50
MezWhats the easiest way to be able to play .mov files in linux03:50
tritiumpodge, like I said, I don't disagree with you03:51
confusernot yet. hd2 is for hardisk/ide 2 i thinks. i try to mount extended partition (drive d: on windows)03:51
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klimaany ideas?03:51
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kpanichi people, is there parted in ubuntu live ppc with hfs support?03:51
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podgetritium, I think it is more about Redhat, Novell, IBM etc pressuring Broadcom.. hmmm...03:52
shidoanyone remember how to change every file in a directory from buzz45454 to buzz54545.tar ? (2000 fils)03:52
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podgefor each in *03:52
podgedo03:52
shidoqparted?03:52
podgemv $each $each.tar03:53
podgedone03:53
shidoqtparted?03:53
carthikWhat are all the different cron files for?03:53
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carthikHow can I use them?03:53
kpanicshido, yeah or qtparted03:53
carthikisn't crontab -e good enough?03:53
kpanicshido, parted or qtparted03:53
thoreauputicpodge: that just renames them without tarring them, doesn't ti?03:53
thoreauputic*it03:53
shidopodge close03:54
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Biffthoreauputic: yep03:54
kpanicshido, there is?03:54
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podgethoreauputic, Isn't that what he asked? ....03:55
rekaMez: (1) - add deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat testing main to your sources.list (2) apt-get update (3) apt-get install w32 codecs (4) comment out the marillat repo (5) apt-get update03:55
podgeshido, tar -cf $each.tar $each03:55
shidono03:55
thoreauputicpodge: not sure that's what he meant though03:55
shidoI dont want to tar them03:55
iratsuhow do i disactivate broadcast mode on eth0?03:55
shidoI just want to add *.tar to the end03:55
podgeshido, Hahah.03:55
thoreauputicah ok03:55
shidothey are already tarred03:55
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podgeshido, Yeah.. so what I wrote initially would work..03:56
podgethoreauputic, maybe? :)03:56
thoreauputicpodge: I think so03:56
shidopodge they looklike attachment.phpattachmentid35586503:56
shido$each is going to do that?03:56
novaflareany one here useing ipv6 over nat on ubuntu with out tspc client?03:57
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=== James-C has a networking problem under Hoary which I didn't have on the same machine under debian unstable. Anyone good at diagnosing network probs?
novaflareneed to know what to use for ubuntu command wise03:57
thoreauputicshido: $each is just a shorthand - you could equally use $i or whatever03:57
podgeshido, Yep.. because the for loop substitutes each filename with $each..03:57
podgethoreauputic, Single letter variables reminds me of a guys code that I have to maintain at work.. :)03:58
novaflarelike is it ip tunnel add ipv6tb mode sit remote 216.218.201.174 ttl 255 or is it (im thinking this one>>>)ifconfig sit0 up03:58
doogluscan I get nautilus to just play an mp3 file when I click on it, without the "visualisation" thing?  I don't particularly need a gui at all, just want to listen to the mp3 file03:58
Hajuunautilus playing an mp3 file?03:58
Hajuulearn something new every day03:59
dooglusHajuu: using some external app, I guess, but yes03:59
thoreauputicpodge: I'm not recommending it, merely making an observation :)03:59
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thoreauputicpodge: I agree each/$each is much better :)03:59
podgethoreauputic, haha.. then there is the other guy that takes advantage of the 255 limit for var names.. :)03:59
thoreauputicpodge: *groan*03:59
rekadooglus: that's nautilus launching the default media player: totem04:00
rekaHajuu: well, it can preview it if you hover on it! :-)04:00
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dooglusreka: so I guess I either want to turn off the pretty graphics in totem (can I?) or change the default media player for mp3 files in nautilus (can I?)04:01
thoreauputicreka: assuming you have "sox" installed04:01
rekadooglus: yes and yes.04:01
reka:-)04:01
thoreauputicdooglus: right click, properties, open with04:01
rekadooglus: eidt->prefs in totem.  or right-click->properties->open-with in nautilus.04:02
dooglusthoreauputic: I can do that, but it doesn't seem to offer me any option to "always use this app by default in future"04:02
rekadooglus: click on the radio button for the desired default.04:02
HajuuI just installed the flash plugin for firefox through the firefox extension downloader app thingie.. and my flash animations dont have sound.. why could that be?04:02
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ianhow can i change my resolution ? when i go to screen resolution there is only 2 option 800x600 and 640x480..i want to have a higher resol..04:03
thoreauputicdooglus: properties, open with , add, check the one you want04:03
dooglusreka: I've turned off the graphics in totem, but the gui is still huge - there's just a big grey area where the graphics used to be.  can't you get rid of that bit altogether?04:03
rekaHajuu: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2450904:04
dooglusthoreauputic: I can see "open with", but not "add"04:04
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thoreauputicdooglus: "properties" at the bottom - choose the "open with" tab04:04
rekadooglus: afaik no.  it's more of a movie player after all.   try a dedicated music player like beep-media-player04:04
thoreauputicdooglus: I think you are in the wrong dialog04:05
dooglusreka: I can't see how to get nautilus to change its default - but thoreauputic is helping me with this.04:05
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seliniumAny rsync users about?04:05
thoreauputicdooglus: after right click, go to the bottom entry (properties)04:05
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Hajuusudo ln -s /usr/lib/libesd.so.0 /usr/lib/libesd.so.104:05
Hajuuok04:05
rekaian: running hoary?04:05
Hajuuwhats that doing?04:05
dooglusthoreauputic: ok.  i see.  that seems to have hung nautilus though04:06
ianreka: yup..04:06
rekaian: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:06
rekaHajuu: did it work?04:06
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Hajuureka:  I make a habit not do run anything I don't know what its doing anymore.. since I screwed some stuff up when I first installed heh04:07
dooglusthe icons have disappeared from the desktop, and none of the 'places' menu entries do anything any more :(04:07
DarkraD-hello, who know how to switch language on ubuntu 5.04?04:07
thoreauputicdooglus: hmm - odd04:07
DarkraD-i downloaded and installed all packages from translation repository04:07
ianreka: what do i next? :)04:07
dooglusthoreauputic: half an hour ago it told me that nautilus had crashed and asked if I wanted to inform the developers.  but then it got better again.04:07
rekaian: look for Section "Screen"04:08
dooglusthis time it's just stopped - no question about informing the developers04:08
Hajuuanother question04:08
jeroen_DarkraD-, log out, change language settings, log in04:08
Hajuuis there an easy way to change the default file explorer from nautilus?04:08
thoreauputicdooglus: I use rox filer here, mostly (I don't like nautilus much and I'm currently using fluxbox, not gnome)04:08
seaPig|wrkselinium, login -> change password ???04:08
DarkraD-where is language settings? =)04:08
DarkraD-*are04:09
ianreko: found.. there are many subsection.. what will i do with this?04:09
dooglusthoreauputic: I've never liked gnome much.  First impressions with ubuntu were that finally it was stable, but it seems not to be the case really.04:09
Ottomanhey, my resolution changed after quake 3 crashed, and nog 3/4 of my screen is black04:09
jeroen_DarkraD-, log out, click language, select your favorite language, log in again04:09
rekacan you seen the lines that look something like this:             Modes           "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"04:09
Ottomannog=now04:09
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thoreauputicdooglus: it's OK - I'm happier with fluxbox or xfce4 personally04:10
iratsuhow do i disactivate broadcast mode on eth0?04:10
rekaHajuu: it's making a symbolic link to the right sound plugin04:10
thoreauputicxfce4 is nice if you want a DE04:10
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ianreka: this one?04:10
ianSubSection "Display"04:10
ianDepth104:10
ianModes"800x600" "640x480"04:10
ianEndSubSection04:10
rekaian: don't paste > 2 lines, but yes04:11
rekaian: what res do you want to have as default?04:11
ianreka: 1024x76804:11
syloneHi@all. I had a dummy question. Is in ubuntu the most as in debian. I mean such as "dpkg-reconfigure" or "apt-get install"?04:11
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rekaian: then change all the lines to Modes  "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480".04:12
jeroen_sylone, yes04:12
thoreauputicsylone: yes, debian commands work the same04:12
rekaian: save the document, reboot and you're done.04:12
jeroen_ian, no need to reboot, just restart X04:12
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jeroen_ian, ctrl-alt-backspace04:12
sylonejeroen_: Thanks04:12
sylonethoreauputic: Thanks04:12
tritiumian, you might try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" rather than editing your xorg.conf file by hand first04:12
rekajeroen_: ah, good catch.  ctrl+alt+backspace?04:12
jeroen_reka, yes04:12
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jeroen_reka, although that's not the nicest way of shutting down X04:13
jeroen_reka, it's also usefull when your system freezes, because it might be "just X"04:13
podgelogout should restart X..04:13
syloneOk, then my last idiot question. What is with the root password? Is there any defaults. I cant remember that i have enter it on the installation04:13
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rekajeroen_: interesting. thanks.04:14
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jeroen_sylone, http://www.ubuntu.com/support/documentation/faq/root04:14
DarkraDi don't have any language button04:14
jeroen_DarkraD, do you use Kubuntu?04:14
Shuddertrixsylone: jeroen_'s link, read that. If you really want root to be able to login, sudo passwd root04:14
sylonejeroen_: Thank you, again04:14
DarkraDya04:14
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thoreauputicsylone: by default, Ubuntu uses sudo in preference to root04:15
ShuddertrixDarkraD: Most of the Ubuntu things are different for Kubuntu..04:15
DarkraDic04:15
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jeroen_DarkraD, Kubuntu uses another login system, kdm. I don't know it. Ask again here, or ask on #kubuntu04:15
syloneShuddertrix: I need root to do a dpkg-reconfigure04:15
Micksaare there people with reasonably good kernel knowledge here?04:15
jeroen_sylone, sudo dpkg-reconfigure04:15
Micksaor should I just jump straight to #ubuntu-devel? :)04:15
Shuddertrixsylone: sudo dpkg-reconfigure04:15
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Micksamy inspiron 6000 doesn't want to work. kernel won't init the hard drive04:16
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Micksasomething about 0x1f0-0x1f7 being taken, by libata, even though I can't seem to find the drive under any other guise.04:16
DarkraDya jeroen_, kde is there04:16
Micksaanyone?04:17
jeroen_DarkraD, can't help you with kdm. Ask someone else04:17
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Micksaanyone?04:17
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syloneIs that the recommandation? Sudo to the command and not work as root?04:18
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jeroen_sylone, yes, or sudo -s04:18
thoreauputicsylone: yes - use your user password with sudo04:18
bigjb-anyone any luck installing tor from the noreply sources on 5.04? Im getting a gpg error04:18
thoreauputicsylone: jeroen_ 's command will get you a root shell04:19
jeroen_bigjb-, that's because it's not authenticated04:19
bigjb-arse04:19
syloneThank you all guys for your help, you're greate to me ;-)04:20
syloneBye and greetings from black forrest, germany04:20
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bigjb-can i override the gpg check at all?04:20
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ianthanks guys.. my resolution was changed.. :)04:22
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jeroen_sylone, hercynic woods?04:22
leonelAnyone with ubuntu as a Produccition  www/dns/mail/database server   how it goes  knowing that ubuntu is desktop oriented ?04:22
carthikSo what are the different crons for?04:22
carthikHow do I use them?04:22
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carthikSorry I've had to repeat myself :)04:22
iratsuhow do i disactivate broadcast mode on eth0?04:22
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rekaian: good work04:23
sylonejeroen_: What for woods?04:23
ianhow do i kill a process..like my XMMS hangs..04:23
ianreka: thanks..04:23
rekaian: killall xmms.  if xmms is hanging, try changing the output plugn to esound04:24
rekaalso, check out beep-media-player. IMHO it's cleaner and nicer.04:24
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ianreka: how do i do that?04:24
rekaian: open a terminal apps->sys tools04:25
rekaand type "killall xmms" (w/o quotes)04:25
ianreka: yes..finish..i mean "try changing the output plugn to esound" how do i do that?04:25
Shuddertrixyeah, bmp is cleaner no matter what, it uses the same themes but with gtk2 instead of xmms' gtk104:26
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podgeCan someone visit the www.sun.com site.. my X.org goes through the roof CPU wise whenever I hit the site.. anyone else got the problem?04:26
rekaian: preferences : plugins: output or something like that.  change it from oss to esound04:26
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underdogpodge: no problems ehre04:27
rekaShuddertrix: yes, but most people only know xmms which is a shame.04:27
BuzWG'morning all.04:27
podgeunderdog, scroll over the pictures..04:27
ianreka: thanks! it works now..04:27
rekasure04:27
underdognothing at all04:27
jeroen_sylone, the black forrest, Germany, I think it was called the Hercynic wood in the Roman times.04:28
BuzWVery, very newbie here. I'm trying to install a product, but it appears I don't have a valid C compiler in my path. Where is the C compiler located and why isn't it automagically put in my path?04:28
podgeunderdog, Something stuff with me.. thanks for checking!!04:28
underdognp mn04:28
ShuddertrixBuzW: sudo apt-get install build-essential04:28
ShuddertrixBuzW: What "product"04:28
BuzWX327004:29
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sylonejeroen_: I dont know ;-)04:29
jeroen_podge, pictures are freaking slow here @ sun.com04:29
scorpixj #rosseta04:29
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BuzWShuddertrix, I'm installing X327004:30
ShuddertrixBuzW: Enable the extra repositories (look on the Ubuntu Guide @ ubuntuguide.org,) then run04:30
thoreauputicwtf is X3270 ?04:30
ShuddertrixBuzW: sudo apt-get install x327004:30
Shuddertrixthoreauputic: IBM 3270 terminal emulator, it seems.04:30
thoreauputicah04:30
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thoreauputic:)04:31
ShuddertrixHark, young one, for I too used that book with shame.04:31
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ShuddertrixLook at me now, using metasearching to my own home advantage.04:32
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dominikdoes anybody here play soldier of fortune?04:32
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Shuddertrixdominik: I played that a long time ago.04:33
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Yullyhola04:33
Luisitadque ha pasado04:33
dominikah can you say me, what i should do that it saves my save-games and configs?04:33
Yullym tienen hasta la coronilla04:34
Shuddertrixdominik: I don't know, it's been a long time04:34
dominikok04:34
dominikhmm04:34
Luisitaa ti sola, ya yo estoy estresada04:34
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Yullyluisaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa vamos a ponernos a vender panelitas d GNU/Linux04:34
morita02_yuliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii04:34
morita02_quiero reallllllllllllllllllll04:34
thoreauputicguys, #ubuntu-es or wherever04:34
Yullyjajajajaja04:34
morita02_que bolas tiene maira chama04:34
Yullyyo tambien04:34
rekahehe.  i understood that04:35
morita02_le hace falta vitamina GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG04:35
Luisitayo tambien quiero plata04:35
Yullyhay chama quiero acsinarla04:35
morita02_GUEVOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO04:35
Shuddertrixreka: me too...04:35
morita02_eso es lo que le hace falta04:35
underdogYully, morita02_, Luisita vo mamar e calem-se putas04:35
rekawhere's tritium gone off to?04:35
Yullyyo quiero plata y trabajo04:35
thoreauputicplease, ops will be invoked in a minute...04:35
Yullychamos somos unos gafos!!!04:35
BuzWShuddertrix, I tried the apt-get install X3270, but it tells me Couldn't find package. Total newbie here. Where's a good place to read how to setup my environment after initial install?04:35
Luisitapara que ministerio nos toca irnos hoy?04:35
rekaShuddertrix: only from that y tu movie. :-)04:35
podgejeroen_, Yep.. it slows the X server down HEAPS!!!04:36
ShuddertrixBuzW: ubuntuguide.org04:36
ShuddertrixBuzW: Read on adding extra repositories04:36
morita02_putas ustedes04:36
morita02_todas04:36
jeroen_podge, on my system it isn't that bad04:36
BuzWShuddertrix: Thanks.04:36
morita02_portugues del coo04:36
Yullymira portugues hedeondo deja el pegue04:36
ShuddertrixBuzW: Once that it done, make sure you ran 'sudo apt-get update' then run 'sudo apt-get install x327004:36
thoreauputicamaranth, +q on languages needed?04:36
ShuddertrixBuzW: Make sure the "x" is not capitilized.04:37
Yullypa el ministerio de Gafos y Tecnologia04:37
morita02_esooooooooooooo04:37
morita02_la elegida04:37
morita02_jijjiooooooo04:37
AmaranthGuys, this is an English only channel. Please go to #ubuntu-es for Spanish chat (or if that's portugese the channel for it).04:37
morita02_LA FUERTE CANDIDATA04:37
morita02_AL REINADO DEL MINISTERIO DE CIENCIA Y TECNOLOGIAQ04:37
podgejeroen_, Well.. it comes back after a little bit.. Something to have a look at.. Thanks for checking..04:37
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rekalol.04:37
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podgeTalk again soon people..04:37
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rekanow you guys are in for it.04:38
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Amaranthchannel ban list is full...04:38
ShuddertrixSomebody should translate that.04:38
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GuerinYo. Does ubuntu's default install run a sshd?04:38
Yullymiren a PP04:38
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ShuddertrixGuerin: no04:38
AmaranthGuerin: No04:38
Yullyjajaja04:38
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ShuddertrixGuerin: sudo apt-get install openssh-server04:38
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Guerinok. Is running it as simple as doing sudo invoke-rc.d ssh?04:38
Amaranththere04:38
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ShuddertrixGuerin: sudo apt-get install openssh-server04:39
Guerinok, need to be installed first04:39
iratsuanyone here know how i can disactivate broadcast mode on eth0?04:39
thoreauputicAmaranth: thanks, it was getting a bit out of hand...04:39
Guerinwill it run by default once installed?04:39
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Shuddertrixyeah, then it will be configured to start up automatically and then it should start up04:39
reka\0/ thanks Amaranth04:39
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Guerinawesome04:39
Amaranthbob2: PING?04:39
Guerini have a mate whose ubuntu install failed to set up X and he's utterly lost04:39
ShuddertrixGuerin: If not, sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start04:39
ShuddertrixGuerin: I believe that is the right command, at least04:39
carthikGuerin was that a laptop?04:39
carthikShuddertrix, it does start up by default :)04:40
Guerincarthik: nope, desktop. No idea on the spec though04:40
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Shuddertrixcarthik: You never know :)04:40
carthikGuerin,  for adding startup scripts, you can use update-rc.d  too04:40
carthikGuerin, ask him to check if the BIOS has the proper setting for the amount of videoram on the chip04:40
iikianyone know much about other distros of linux?04:40
iikipref gentoo04:41
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Guerincarthik: yeah, I know about init; i just need to know if I can login and change shit. Does ubuntu use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to make an xserver work?04:41
Yullyyul esta kllada04:41
Yullyde pana04:41
carthikGuerin, failing which, he may need to use a custom install command, depend on the model, to account for hardware issues?04:41
ShuddertrixYully: /join #ubuntu-es04:41
carthikGuerin, yeah, that is a way to reconfigure it04:41
ShuddertrixYully: /part #ubuntu04:41
Guerincarthik: naw, he's already installed; the x server worked fine with the livecd, just the install which isn't working.04:41
Luisitasi y se nos queda viendo a veces04:42
carthikiiki, #gentoo would be a good place to ask :)04:42
carthikGuerin, try reconfiguring it04:42
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Yullysi d pana tu tambien lo has visto!!!04:42
Luisitasi04:42
carthikor just save the xorg.conf from the livecd and use that with xorg after the install :)04:42
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Luisitatambien es que todos estamos serios04:42
thoreauputicLuisita: Yully , you have seen what already happened - please speak english or go elsewhere04:42
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rekaAmaranth: ping04:43
Guerincarthik: yeah, I can reconfigure an X server alright; just need to know what I'm working with. Cheers :)04:43
thoreauputicbob2: ping04:43
Amaranth*sigh*04:43
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Yullya eso si d pana!!!04:43
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Yullyyo no c04:43
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roshlameI give up! Xine keeps giving me this annoying message about missing "audio codec MPEG Layer 2/3", I have installed libmpeg2-4, libavifile and every movie orientated library there is04:43
AmaranthSeriously guys, you've been warned.04:43
envelwheris ubuntu-ru channel?04:43
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Guerincarthik: cheers.04:44
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roshlameIt's like "No, no, no roshlame you are not supposed to watch avi files on Ubuntu" ;P04:44
Shuddertrixingls por favor , ou mais #ubuntu-es (en espanol: ingls por favor o bien #ubuntu-es)04:44
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ShuddertrixAmaranth: That's "english please, or else #ubuntu-es for them. I hope it works.04:44
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rekaroshlame: installed w32codecs?04:44
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envel#Ubuntu-ru works=)04:45
rekaShuddertrix: correct me if i'm wrong but weren't they swearing or something?04:45
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roshlamereka, No ;)04:45
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IIIEars (going to get flamed cringe) spanish doesn't bother me. - just don't see how we can help if they speak spanish..04:45
Shuddertrixreka: No, but my spanish/portugeues that I learned is a bit rusty04:45
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_lukehow do you enable the root user?04:45
ShuddertrixIIIEars: I helped them with what I said04:45
roshlamereka, is it gonna help me?04:46
thoreauputicIIIEars: the problem is it acts as spam for those who don't speak their language04:46
Yullysaben algo vamos hacer est trab bien pero ya vasta!!!04:46
_lukehow do you enable the root user?04:46
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rekaroshlame: i'd say yes. :-)  it pretty mcuh has every vid codec you'll need04:46
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Shuddertrix_luke: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/documentation/faq/root04:46
underdogYully: mama mes cojones e cala-te04:46
caonexunderdog: that is wrong.04:46
mindspinhaha thats sounds dirty04:46
underdogmindspin: i hate spanish people04:47
Yullyyour mother!!!04:47
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underdoglol04:47
roshlameOh and apt-get found it! I'm downloading it right away04:47
caonexyully: mamame los cojones04:47
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mindspinwhy generalizing?04:47
thoreauputicunderdog: code of conduct, please04:47
roshlamethank you reka04:47
IIIEarsuhey you guys grow up even i know that much spanish. cajones? - not funny.04:47
rekasure.04:47
caonexyully, perdon no era a ti que le iba a decir eso04:47
mindspinI would never say "Ihate american people"04:47
caonexyully, me equivoque de apodo.04:47
Yullyok eso espero!!!04:47
Yullyd dond eres caonex04:48
Shuddertrixportuguese is #ubuntu-pt04:48
caonexyully, se lo iba a decir al loco ese04:48
iratsuanyone here know how i can disactivate broadcast mode on eth0?04:48
caonexYully, soy dominicano y tu?04:48
Yullyes q no puedo reproducir mp3 y no puedo como hago!!!04:48
caonexiratsu, you have it automatic when you boot?04:48
thoreauputicguys, english please or ops again...04:48
iratsucaonex: yea04:48
caonexiratsu, /etc/network/interfaces04:48
caonexremove dhcp04:49
underdogthoreauputic: sorry, but their attitude is making me mad04:49
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ShuddertrixYully: ingls por favor , ou mais #ubuntu-pt (en espanol: ingls por favor o bien #ubuntu-es) : please read what I said!04:49
caonexiratsu, and add the desired ip address04:49
iratsucaonex: well no, eth0 isn't actually up when i boot04:49
toxicfum1can anyone here help me with installation of my intel pro wireless card's drivers please?04:49
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IIIEarsYully - gstreamer-mad will let you listen to mp3's04:49
Shuddertrixthoreauputic: Shouldn't they be able to read that?04:49
iratsucaonex: i'm trying to get pppoe working04:49
caonexyully, private message04:49
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thoreauputicShuddertrix: I get the impression they don't care...04:49
Yullyno c reproduce no puedo!!!04:50
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thoreauputicAmaranth: bob2: ping again04:50
_lukehow can I give my user account permanent root privilages?04:50
Shuddertrixit's spanish04:50
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mindspinis there an option to install ubuntu without GUI ?04:51
reka_luke: sure you want to do that?04:51
ShuddertrixYully: ingls por favor o bien #ubuntu-es : english please, or else #ubuntu-es04:51
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_lukeyes. I see it as the only way to do what I want04:51
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Guerinok, does ubuntu have lynx by default? or other non-x tools which can be used to find an ip address04:51
thoreauputicthank you, Amaranth04:51
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_lukeI'll take it off if it doesn't work04:51
Amaranth*sigh*04:51
Shuddertrixignorant spainards.04:51
caonexiratsu, well you can configure /etc/network/interfaces04:51
Shuddertrixthanks a lot Amaranth04:51
Guerinwithout resorting to a big ifconfig|awk line :)04:51
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ShuddertrixI hurt my brain.04:51
spiderwormhi all with network-admin when i put in my dns server and hit ok, it changes the dns info from what i put in every time, i have to go into /etc/resolv.conf and manually put in the correct dns server information, does anyone know why it's doing that?04:51
Amaranththe ban list is packed04:51
Amaranthi'm going to clean it out04:52
mindspinore domreps as far as I recogned04:52
caonexiratsu, you can do something like iface eth0 <ip>04:52
_lukereka: do you know how?04:52
ShuddertrixAnyone have bacta? My head is teh hurting04:52
iratsucaonex: well the thing is it's not a static ip04:52
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reka_luke: i think there's a way of logging in as root.  giving a particular user permanent root priveleges on the other hand ...04:52
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mindspinis there an option to install ubuntu without GUI ?04:53
caonexiratsu, eth0 has internet?04:53
Shuddertrix_luke: You can't give a user the power of root. You, can, however, give root a password (sudo passwd root)04:53
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iratsucaonex: no04:53
Shuddertrixmindspin: Install with the server setting04:53
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iratsucaonex: trying to get internet working04:54
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reka_luke: there you go.  thanks Shuddertrix .04:54
Amarantheek04:54
Guerinwtf04:54
Amaranthsupposed to group them when removing, stupid xchat04:54
_lukeI need to be able to copy files from this computer onto an ubuntu system through ssh or scp. my root account wont work for that for some reason04:54
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AmaranthSorry about that guys, the ban list was full.04:54
caonexok, if the ip from the internet is not static, you may be better off with dhcp04:54
AmaranthSo I cleaned out the old entries.04:54
ShuddertrixAmaranth: Whatever helps us to keep banning the other language people.04:54
rekaAmaranth: i agree. no worries.04:54
ShuddertrixAmaranth: I'll help to translate.. ;)04:55
iratsucaonex: well probably but i don't think i get to the decide that... the ISP doesn't offer DHCP i think04:55
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rekathat was actually the 1st ban i've seen in #ubuntu04:55
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caonexiratsu, it has to offer something because it needs to assign your ip04:55
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ShuddertrixBabelfish does russian!   04:55
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iratsucaonex: well yes... it offers pppoe04:55
Amarantheither inci_ and aysu just randomly have the same indent or we're about to get bot flooded04:56
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thoreauputicreka: we try to be friendly and reasonable, but sometimes...04:56
iratsucaonex: but to get that working, i have to disactivate broadcast on eth004:56
Shuddertrixthat's supposed to be english please, but you know Bablefish's accuracy rate (if not, it's like 2 in 1809922092 million trillion billion04:56
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thenukehttp://www.student.oulu.fi/~ipalonen/type-magic_hidcam1.mpeg04:56
_lukeluke@kubuntu:~ $ scp /home/luke/MyPictures/Random-Toons/blawt02.bmp root@ubuntu:/var/www     ---this doesn't work04:56
caonexiratsu, try doing ifup eth004:56
toxicfumecan anyone here help me with installation of my intel pro wireless card's drivers please?04:56
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_lukeit wont accept my password04:57
iratsucaonex: ifup: interface eth0 already configured04:57
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rekathoreauputic: yes, i know.  #ubuntu has been great/newbie-friendly from what i've seen.04:57
caonexiratsu, the broadcast on eth0 is the one to get the ip from the dhcp, is not that is broadcasting dhcp, to my understanding04:57
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caonexiratsu what ip? local? or wan?04:57
doogluswhat package are the openoffice.org templates in?04:58
iratsucaonex: what do you mean?04:58
xplodHi, i tried the live dvd a cupple of minutes ago. But the internet did'nt work. Is i because i have internt netcard?04:58
_lukeluke@kubuntu:~ $ scp /home/luke/MyPictures/Random-Toons/blawt02.bmp root@ubuntu:/var/www   this command wont work, it wont accept my password, any ideas?04:58
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Amaranth_luke: Just cp04:59
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dooglus_luke: are you sure root@ubuntu _has_ a password?04:59
Amaranth_luke: sudo cp /home/luke/MyPictures/Random-Toons/blawt02.bmp /var/www04:59
Shuddertrix_luke: sudo cp04:59
_lukedooglus _yes_04:59
dooglus_luke: can you "su root" on ubuntu?04:59
othernoobdooglus sudo -i05:00
_luke/home/luke/MyPictures...  is remote from the ubuntu system05:00
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thoreauputic_luke: then you need to give the host as well05:00
iratsucaonex: ?05:01
ianhow can i make thunderbird..when ever i close it..it goes to the upper left corner.. like gaim..05:01
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ianit just shows the icon..05:01
caonexiratsu, when it says broadcasting whenever you use network-admin05:01
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caonexiratsu, that may be when is trying to obtain an ip address05:02
caonexiratsu, without broadcast you need to assign a static ip05:02
ianhow can i make thunderbird..when ever i close it..it goes to the upper left corner.. like gaim..it just shows the icon..05:02
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iratsucaonex: well when i run start-pppoe, it says "Warning: Interface eth0 still in Broadcast mode"05:03
envelinci_ sending a virus05:03
caonexiratsu, do this first "ifdown eth0", then do it05:04
caonexiratsu, let us see what happens05:04
iratsucaonex: well i can't do it right now. I'm actually helping a friend do this because he can't access internet... for obvious reasons05:04
jeroen_ian, maybe there's a plugin for that05:05
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iratsucaonex: but it apparently needs eth0 to be up for some reason05:05
caonexiratsu, ok good call, then05:05
iratsucaonex: http://service.sympatico.ca/index.cfm?method=content.view&category_id=99&content_id=113805:05
ram_einsteinhey, I just installed ubuntu and I have a problem with a firefox plugin: macromedia flash player05:05
caonexhmm....one sec05:05
ram_einsteinI downloaded http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash&P2_Platform=Linux&P3_Browser_Version=Netscape405:05
ivoks_inci_ = spamer05:05
ivoks_please kick05:05
ram_einsteinplease kick inci_05:06
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ram_einsteinno ops around?05:06
ivoks_bob2: ping05:06
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thoreauputicAmaranth: ping re inci_ (spam)05:06
ram_einsteinas I was saying, I installed flash player plugin from that site05:06
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bigfoothow can i change my username in ubuntu?05:06
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ram_einsteinbut my cound on macromedia movies05:06
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ram_einsteinnot enough Amaranth05:07
ram_einsteinhe can't speak on the channel05:07
ivoksAmaranth: thank you :)05:07
ram_einsteinbut he can msg us privately05:07
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Amaranthhe can do that even if i kick him05:07
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Fator_Deeram_einstein: he can even if banned from the channel05:07
ram_einsteinI don't think you can do anything about it05:07
ram_einsteinywah05:07
ram_einsteinit's okay05:07
Amaranthignore him05:07
ram_einsteinthanks05:07
Fator_Deeseems like there's quite a lot of trouble in here today :-\05:07
ivoksAmaranth: ban/kick05:07
ivoks:)05:07
dooglusothernoob: I asked whether he could "su root" because that would be a test of whether he really had, and knew, a root password.  "sudo -s" doesn't need a root password to even exist05:07
bigfootanyone, Is it possible to edit my username on my ubuntu system?05:08
_lukeI also can't 'sftp root@ubuntu' it just wont accept the root password05:08
ram_einsteinokay, why aren't my flash movies working correctly, no sound?05:08
iratsucaonex: ifconfig eth0 0.0.0.0 up -arp is not supposed to put it up on broadcast, right?05:08
FlyingSquirrel32I seem to consistantly have trouble when installing programs that use SDL. SDL is installed in ubuntu by default, right?05:08
ram_einsteinI installed flash player in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox05:08
dooglus_luke: what happens if you "su root" on the ubuntu box as a non-root user?05:08
ram_einsteinusing the install script05:08
caonexiratsu, that is what it seems05:08
caonexiratsu, did you try doing that?05:08
iratsucaonex: yea we did that05:09
ram_einsteinnobody else has problems with a flash plugin for fireofx?05:09
ram_einstein*firefox05:09
caonexhmm....hold on05:09
bigfootram_einstein, i don't05:09
iratsuok05:09
Amaranthram_einstein: use the package05:09
ivoksram_einstein: i had05:09
ivoksram_einstein: remove swf-player05:09
ram_einsteinAmaranth, what package?05:09
ivoksram_einstein: and everything around it05:09
ram_einsteinI downloaded the tar05:09
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ram_einsteinivoks, the package?05:09
ram_einsteinapt-get remove swf-player?05:09
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dooglus_luke: your best bet probably is to set up a private/public key pair instead of trying to use passwords05:10
ivoksram_einstein: yes05:10
ram_einsteinokay, how do I revert what the installer did? read the install script? one sec05:10
ram_einsteinnot installed ivoks05:11
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Ottomanhi05:11
ivoksram_einstein: then you should be able to use flash normaly05:11
ram_einsteinplugin for firefox ivoks!05:11
ram_einsteinI had to manual install it05:11
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ram_einsteinbecause the auto installer is only for windoz05:12
ram_einsteinand it failed05:12
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Ottomanany Quake 3 players that are able to help me out here?05:12
ivoksram_einstein: ?05:12
caonexiratsu, what ip address has eth0? do ifconfig eth0 to see05:12
ivoksram_einstein: apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree05:12
ram_einsteinwait a sec... I have to revert first05:13
ram_einsteinare you sure ivoks? nonfree?05:13
iratsucaonex: well i can't right now because my friend went out to run an errand05:13
Ottomanany Quake 3 players that are able to help me out here?05:13
iratsucaonex: are you going to be online later on though?05:13
dooglusram_einstein: I had no luck with flashplugin-nonfree - it hung firefox.  I removed it and installed "flashplayer-mozilla" instead, and that's been fine.05:13
thoreauputicram_einstein: it's in the multiverse repository05:13
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anatoleumm... how do i remove application borders in gnome? i would like a terminal only containing text05:14
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ram_einsteinI don't have multiverse repos05:14
ram_einsteindeb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)] / hoary main restricted05:14
ram_einsteindeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted universe multiverse05:14
ram_einsteindeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted universe multiverse05:14
ram_einsteinthat's my sources.list05:14
ram_einsteinsorry for the paste05:15
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neighborleeis any progress being made in ubuntu to enable autoUmount instead of requiring it to be done via the desktop icon ? ;-)05:15
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thoreauputicram_einstein: you have multiverse in that list...05:15
caonexiratsu, yes, probably05:15
caonexiratsu, can u ssh?05:15
iratsucaonex: not if he doesn't have internet =P05:16
ram_einsteinwait a sec! it isn;t symlinked! it's hardlinked05:16
thoreauputicram_einstein: you don't have security listed: bad idea05:16
caonexiratsu, oh i see the picture now05:16
caonexiratsu, you helping him by phone05:16
iratsucaonex: yea i was05:16
kainhi there, I know that ubuntu is UTF-8, but I've a problem with charsets in php, if I write some iso-8859-1/15 chars, they appears on web pags as '?', anyone knows how to change this behaviour?05:16
caonexiratsu, i thought he already had internet but was configuring another interface05:16
ram_einsteinthoreauputic, tell me what to append05:17
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iratsucaonex: no he has no access to internet at all05:17
caonexiratsu, i know that now ;)05:17
slashzulhow do you restart ubuntuos X login screen when it crashed?05:17
slashzulits not running xdm or kdm05:17
Fator_Deeslashzul: ctrl+alt+del ?05:17
thoreauputicram_einstein: security lines should exist in your default sources.list - you should uncomment those lines05:18
slashzulit crashed fator05:18
slashzulim on console05:18
Fator_Deeoooh05:18
ram_einsteincan anyone tell me what exactly the flashplayer installer script does?05:18
ram_einsteinI really can't read it05:18
Fator_Deeits /etc/init.d/gdm05:18
ram_einsteinthoreauputic, gone05:18
slashzulaaaaaaaaaah05:18
slashzulits gdm05:18
ram_einsteinI don't have the defualt05:18
slashzulforgot05:18
ram_einsteinall I have is this05:18
iratsucaonex: i don't know when he's going to be back home, but i'll talk to you later. Thanks a lot for your help05:18
ram_einstein3 lines in this sources.list05:18
slashzulcant tell with all these login start scripts kdm gdm xdm blah blah05:18
thoreauputicram_einstein: I can show you the lines in /msg or *flood if you wish05:19
thoreauputic#flood05:19
neighborleeram_einstein, it allows you to play flash content at websites, but it can also be installed on 'some'webistes automagically ;-)05:19
caonexiratsu, no need to think i wish i could have done more05:20
thoreauputicram_einstein: /join #flood05:20
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jonas-rFrom???05:20
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ironwolfHave hoary CD's shipped yet?05:21
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mengi have a modem issue05:21
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mengi can't seem to change the speed with the gnome systray applet05:22
KyynaraHi. I've just installed ubuntu. I've got two partitions on my hd, the other is an ntfs as a "leftover" from windows05:22
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mengis there an alternative to the applet or any other way?05:22
Kyynarahowever, when I tried mounting it, I didn't find anything in /dev/hda#05:22
Kyynaraactually, there were no hd's in /dev/05:22
Kyynaraany ideas?05:22
jonas-rlinux cant read nfts as normaly05:22
chrissturmi am running breezy and i get this error upgrading xbase-clients: xbase-clients postinst warning: /etc/X11/xkb/xkbcomp symbolic link points05:23
chrissturm   to wrong location /usr/bin/xkbcomp05:23
Kyynarajonas-r: yer, but I should be able to mount it05:23
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jonas-rok05:23
Kyynaraat least I've mounted my ntfs hd at home05:23
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teknoprepcan i just stick a bash script in ~/.kde/Autostart and it will run on startup of that profile in kde05:23
Kyynaraneeds to be mounted as vfat, but the problem is that there is nothing in the /dev/ folder (I mean no hd's)05:24
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ivokschrissturm: don't run breezy05:24
willyhi guys05:24
mengcan anyone help me with my modem issue05:24
thoreauputicteknoprep: yes, basically05:24
chrissturmivoks: apart from that?05:24
teknoprepthoreauputic, doesn't matter what the format is then05:24
ivokschrissturm: nothing apart from that05:24
thoreauputicteknoprep: just be sure it is executable05:24
ivokschrissturm: read /topic05:24
teknoprepthoreauputic,  i know that05:24
willydoe anyone know howx to install a msn messenger client05:24
ivokschrissturm: breezy is work in progress05:25
Kyynarawilly: gaim05:25
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thoreauputicteknoprep: OK05:25
ironwolfwilly: apt-get install gaim05:25
chrissturmivoks: thx for trying to be helpful05:25
ivokschrissturm: it isn't usable, it isn't supported and it isn't stable - it's totally broken05:25
willythx05:25
mengis there an alternative to using the gnome applet to connect dial-up?05:25
willythe apt-get command does not work05:26
ianis there any internet radio for linux..05:26
ivokschrissturm: PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DON'T USE BREEZY YET -- REALLY05:26
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anatolewilly: are you root?05:26
chrissturmivoks: thanks. that would really help if i hadnt already updated05:26
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ivokschrissturm: breezy has new C and C++ libs. lots of packages aren't compatibile with it05:27
ivokschrissturm: noone can help you! :)05:27
ram_einsteinhow do you perform a more powerful search? it doesn't list all the files in the search. esp. /usr/lib05:27
ivokschrissturm: you did stoopid thing :)05:27
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chrissturmok, anyone else?05:27
willythere is only one user on the pc, so i am root i think05:27
anatoleno you are not05:27
ivoks:>05:27
ironwolfchrissturm: breezy is broken, support isn't available for it until it stables out.05:27
anatoletry "sudo aptitude install gaim"05:27
anatolethen your password05:28
ianIs there any internet radio for linux..05:28
chrissturmthats ok with me05:28
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zenroxian, www.shoutcast.com05:28
ivokschrissturm: man, it isn't broken like sid, it's much worse!05:28
chrissturmi thought maybe someone got the same error and has a solution05:28
JasonFwill a Breezy Badger kernel drop-in and work on a Hoary box?05:28
willynow it works05:28
JasonFThe BB kernel contains a module I need05:28
willythx05:28
anatolenp05:28
ivokschrissturm: noone here updates breezy for some time05:28
ivokschrissturm: people here read topics and anouncments05:29
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willyhow can you logon to the root account?05:31
thenukecannot if you dont set password for it05:31
thenukeyou can have rootshell by typing sudo su05:31
JasonFwilly: type "sudo su -" in your regular user terminal05:31
thenukeor run command as a root with sudo command05:31
JasonFand type your user password05:31
seliniumian: you can tune into internet radio with musicplayer05:31
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kainhi there, I know that ubuntu is UTF-8, but I've a problem with charsets in php, if I write some iso-8859-1/15 chars, they appears on web pags as '?', anyone knows how to change this behaviour?05:32
tswIs there a way to make harddrive "image" other than dd (dont want to make 10Gt image for 2Gt of data)05:32
kaintsw, maybe dd_rescue ? not sure05:32
thenukekain: try dpkg-reconfigure locales, and add support for those charsets and or make iso-8859 your default charset for whole system05:33
tswkain: on webpages you have to use &auml; and such05:33
kainallright, thanks for suggestions05:33
seliniumanyone here use rsync?05:33
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ianis there a nice client of shout cast?05:35
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thoreauputician: try streamtuner with either beep-media-player or xmms05:36
thoreauputician: the default is xmms05:36
kainthenuke, well, http://pastebin.com/29332905:36
thoreauputicbut you can change it in prefs05:36
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devianthow can i create a bootable cd using k3b?05:36
kainI've set up en_US iso-8859-1 and it_IT@euro iso-8859-15..mm05:36
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thoreauputician: also install streamripper to rip music using streamtuner05:37
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thoreauputician: both are in the universe repository05:38
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ram_einsteinI did exactly "copy libflashplayer.so to your Mozilla plugins directory and flashplayer.xpt to your Mozilla components directory" without using the installer05:39
ram_einsteinmy flash player plugin still doesn'twork05:40
iani also tried xmms and access shoutcast.. music does not play continues.. i mean it stop the middle of a song and play.. whats wrong?05:40
ram_einsteinit shows the movie sans music05:40
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ram_einsteinand and when I click settings, it comes up with a nearly blank dialog05:40
willyyess Xirc and gaim work05:40
ram_einsteinI can't read the text on it05:40
ram_einsteinwhat could be wrong?05:41
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thoreauputician: hard to say from your description: are you choosing an appropriate bitrate for your connection?05:41
thoreauputician: if you are using dialup choose 24 for preference05:42
ram_einsteinI copied flashplugin.xpt to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components and libflashplayer.so to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins05:42
ram_einsteinsome flash movies get stuck in the middle when loading05:42
ram_einsteinand I have to force quit firefox05:42
ianthoreauputic: how can i choos bitrate?05:43
ianwhere can i set it ?05:43
ram_einsteinthere's something seriously wrong, please help me correct it...05:43
thoreauputician: you choose the source on shoutcast05:43
thoreauputicnot in your client05:43
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KyynaraHow a S-ATA harddrives named in /dev/?05:44
Kyynara*are05:44
ianthoreauputic: ic.. ok..05:44
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NigelSKyynara: sd*05:44
Kyynarak05:44
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Kyynarathank you05:44
ram_einsteinthoreauputic, I searched forduplicates and found none too05:44
thoreauputicram_einstein: see http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats (section 5 on flash)05:45
leo_mxdoes somebody know how can i mount an extra hard disk i have? it only has data, no OS....or maybe somebody could tell me where can i read something about it05:45
kestas2is there some thing where you cant play wmv9 or something in totem?05:45
kestas2when I play most wmvs it says 'encrypted'05:45
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thoreauputickestas2: read and follow  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats05:46
carthikHow do I change my default editor to vim, from pico or nano(whichever it is currently)?05:46
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kestas2Ive installed totem-xine, w32codecs and such if thats what youre thinking thoreauputic05:46
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goldfish_carthik: change the $EDITOR variable.05:47
thoreauputickestas2: I see - Ok05:47
kestas2in mplayer it plays all green and messed up05:47
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ianthoreauputic: thanks! it work ..05:47
ram_einsteinokay thanks thoreauputic, I'll first uninstall the current one05:47
NigelSleo_mx: yeah, if you just type mount /dev/<whatever> /mnt/<mount point> then that'll just mount it - depending on the filesystem there are other options you can give to which are listed in the man page, e.g. -o uid=1000 to make it owned by your first normal user05:47
kestas2you cant see anything, but in totem you get 'Encrypted'05:47
thoreauputician: :)05:47
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carthikgoldfish_ echo $EDITOR gives me a blank line05:47
kestas2so can totem-xine and mplayer play the latest wmv formats?05:48
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carthikgoldfish_ so should I say EXPORT $EDITOR=vim ?05:48
RaskallI wish to set 775 on all new files on a nfs mounted directory. Where do I set the mask?05:48
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thoreauputician: if you install streamtuner and streamripper as I suggested, you'll see the bitrates on the right in the client05:48
Fator_Deecarthik: you can set the environmen variable to ~/.bash_profile05:48
Raskallin /etc/exports?05:48
Fator_Deeor do you want to change it?05:49
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goldfishcarthik: yah05:49
carthikgoldfish, that gives me "bash: EXPORT: command not found"05:50
goldfishcarthik: set it in .bashrc to change permamnent05:50
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goldfishcarthik: export05:50
Fator_Deecarthik: export05:50
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elekishi05:50
Fator_Deeand I assume that it won't survive the boor?05:50
Fator_Dee*boot05:50
jeroen_elekis, hi05:50
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elekisI have some trouble with my hoay,05:50
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jeroen_elekis, just ask05:50
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Fator_Deeso you'd have to put the line export EDITOR=vim to ~/.bash_profile05:51
zenroxya we will answer if we can help you fix it05:51
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carthikFator_Dee, goldfish I edited ~/.bash_profile -- now how do I "reload" bash, so the changes take effect?05:51
Munkeyrah, i finally got ubuntu to install, but for some reason it wont see my network card05:51
Munkeyhow do i get it to see it?05:51
goldfishcarthik: open a new shell05:51
goldfishcarthik: it should work05:51
ram_einsteinthoreauputic, didn't solve the problem!05:51
TanninHi! Can anyone help me get framebuffer working? I have vesafb compiled into the kernel and tried vga= with various valid modes, but all I ever get is a black screen until x starts. I have no /dev/fb0 device and "dmesg|grep fb" shows nothing framebuffer-related.05:52
ram_einsteinI did apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree05:52
thoreauputicram_einstein: then I'm out of ideas, sorry05:52
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ram_einsteinthe situation is exactly the same!05:52
ram_einsteinit's okay, thanks for your help anyway thoreauputic05:52
carthikgoldfish, it is not, I tried crontab -e and it opens my cron file in Nano05:52
carthikin a new shell, that is05:52
ram_einsteinsomeone else suggested installed something else05:52
goldfishhmmmmmmm.05:52
leo_mxmmm my hard disk is detected in the "device manager"...but the HD is in HDA and the "volume" is in HDA1 which one should i mount?05:52
thoreauputicram_einstein: I just went to a flash page and downloaded the "automatic" plugin and it installed fine05:52
serjTannin ever tried installing splashy? i installed it and fb works in the console no problem05:52
ram_einsteinI wasn't paying attention05:52
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ram_einsteinthoreauputic, ubuntu 5.04 and firefox?05:53
ram_einsteinthen link me05:53
thoreauputicram_einstein: yup05:53
ram_einsteinyou mean online installer right?05:53
Tanninserj: Yes, splashy is installed and it starts, but everything stays black05:53
thoreauputiclink you to what? A flash page?05:53
goldfishcarthik: sorry05:53
ram_einstein...05:53
elekisthe first is the /dev/dvd link, I folowed a how to who said change that line "       BUS="ide", KERNEL="hd[a-z] ", PROGRAM="/etc/udev/cdsymlinks.sh %k", SYMLINK="%c{1} %c{2}" "05:53
elekisin /etc/udev/udev.rules, but prob, I havent that line in this file05:53
ram_einsteinwell...05:53
goldfishcarthik: 'source ~/.bashrc'05:53
serjTannin i have the same prob, just hit ctrl+alt+f1 and it goes away05:53
serjwhen it gets black at startup05:54
thoreauputicram_einstein: I went to a flash page, it offered to install , I said yes..05:54
Fator_Deecarthik: yea, source .bash_profile, sorry I forgot to tell you :-\05:54
goldfishFator_Dee: me too :)05:54
goldfishheh05:54
ram_einsteinfirefox came up with the missing plugin dialog or was it the site that offered an online installer?05:54
carthikFator_Dee, goldfish, thanks, but why is one of you saying bash_profile and the other bashrc05:54
Fator_Deeit could be done by both files?05:55
carthikI added EXPORT EDITOR=/usr/bin/vim in bashrc, and it works05:55
goldfishcarthik: yeah05:55
Fator_Deeso a matter of preference?05:55
goldfishno05:55
Tanninserj: thanks for the input, but no luck. :(05:55
goldfishone is for login shells05:55
goldfishi think05:55
thoreauputicram_einstein: I think it was the missing plugin dialog, but I got the offer to install (it's been a while...)05:55
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elekiswhat mustr I do for , when I put a dvd in the dvdlector,  he create the link /*dev/dvd05:55
ram_einstein:)05:55
ram_einsteinsad05:55
ram_einsteinit's okay05:55
ram_einsteinI'll try some other time05:55
ram_einsteinI am out05:55
elekisthere my file /etc/udev/udev.rules,05:56
elekishttp://rafb.net/paste/results/bifnXw19.html05:56
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anatolesomebody pleease tell how to set windowframe visibillity for each app in gnome :p05:59
kimo_guys, I am facing a strange problem! And I am not a newbie. Any script I try to execute, no matter sh/csh/perl , I get "permission denied, sh/csh/perl bad interpreter!". If I "perl ./script" it works. Any ideas?05:59
carthikHow do I direct the output of cron to /dev/null, without outputting errors to /dev/null. I still want to have the errors (if any) emailed to me05:59
floater_what up with sound server when it says /dev/dsp no such dir or file. I just installed kubuntu. It didn't find my sound card or smth I take it, what should I do06:00
pestilencekimo_: how are you trying to run when you get that error?06:00
alastairtry chmod +x filename06:00
kimo_running as ./script06:00
kimo_scripts are 77706:00
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kimo_any language, any script!06:00
pestilencekimo_: and does the #! line match the path to the interpreter?06:00
ianis there a way when ever i close my thunderbird mail it just go to the upper left..like gaim..06:01
ian?06:01
kimo_yep, I mean it's /bin/sh !06:01
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pestilencetrue :)06:01
elekisstupid other question beut, does exist a program who allow to change wallpaper every x minuts (all wallpaper are in one directory)06:01
elekis???06:01
elekis?06:01
kimo_how can I get more info! I mean, permission denied , what's that?? I am even running as root06:01
pfpcarthik: hmm, just use '.../bin/foo > /dev/null'? errors go to stderr stream, and you'd have to redirect that separately06:02
Amaranthsmeg 0.7.1 released! plays nice with KDE on ubuntu :)06:02
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kimo_elekis, kwebshots06:02
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elekisthanks06:02
pfpcarthik: with like '.../bin/foo > /dev/null 2> /dev/null'06:02
tswAmaranth: heh I was just about to ask what was the name of menu editor :)06:02
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tswAmaranth: and does it work with xfce?06:02
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Amaranthyes :D06:03
j-dhello06:03
elekisheu do you have a link ??06:03
kimo_pestilence, any ideas !06:03
Amaranthtsw: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3818306:03
kimo_elekis, I'm prolly not remembering the name :) one sec06:03
serjelekis ln -s06:03
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Einhoernchenreturned06:04
tswAmaranth: thanks Ill check06:04
Einhoernchenehh question..06:04
Einhoernchenwhat is in your opinion the best wm for rebuilding mac os?06:04
Einhoernchen>)06:04
albackerguys, is "the linux" a movie ???06:04
albackeror a documentar?06:04
Amaranthdocumentary, move likely06:04
AmaranthEinhoernchen: GNOME kinda looks like OS 906:05
jakuhi.. i can not kill processes.. i can see with ps ax that a proces is open 4 or 5 times.. like rhythmbox.. but i can not kill it!06:05
carthikpfp, right, thanks06:05
JohnnyfavA program I'm trying to install requires tcl for compilation.....which tcl is it looking for as tcl 8.4 is installed on my comp ?06:05
albackerahh...06:05
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EinhoernchenAmaranth, ehh i mean osx ;)06:05
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carthikpfp I should omit the 2 > part to still get error mails, I gues06:05
AmaranthEinhoernchen: If you're looking for an OS X look alike you aren't going to get as close as you can on Windows.06:05
kimo_jaku, kill -9 PID06:05
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jakukimo_: doesn't work06:05
jakukimo_: no killall etc...06:05
EinhoernchenAmaranth, ok06:05
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EinhoernchenAmaranth, but which wm might be the best?06:06
pestilencekimo_: do you hvae the media mounted with the noexec flag?06:06
andreas_Good evening.06:06
Einhoernchengnome or enlightenment?06:06
kimo_jaku, killall -9 , notice the -9 part ?06:06
AmaranthEinhoernchen: Well, GNOME actually works...06:06
pestilencekimo_: it is implied if you mount as a user06:06
Einhoernchen;)06:06
AddisonHi there, I'm having an issue getting the CD to boot.  Is there a special way to burn it using windows?  I tried extracting it with winrar and then burning the data to the CD but that doesn't see mto work.06:06
Einhoernchenok06:06
kimo_pestilence, hmm, that might be it! lemme look06:06
DaylighthaterFor those who are interested06:06
jakukimo_: yap.. i tryed also wit sudo or su..06:06
DaylighthaterI've solved my screenproblem06:06
Einhoernchenhaha xpde is really funny >)06:06
andreas_Addison: It`s an ISO file and should be burned as such06:06
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Choubakaarhhg.06:06
serjAddison: its easier with an iso06:07
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pfpcarthik: yep, 2 is the file descriptor for stderr, 1 is for stdout and 0 for stdin (_i think_)06:07
DaylighthaterI had a lifted screen which means my screen was lifted about 30 px on my laptop06:07
_lukehow do you change the permissions of a folder in commandline?06:07
jakukimo_: and i can not see the program opened in the desktop06:07
Daylighthaternow the only thing I had to do was change the driver to vesa in stead of ati06:07
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pfp_luke: man chmod06:07
AddisonWindows XP doesn't seem to warn to burn it in any other way than just putting the iso on the cd like a regular file.06:07
Daylighthaterand it was solved!06:07
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pestilencekimo_: here's another idea06:08
pestilencekimo_: http://lists.ssc.com/pipermail/linux-list/2004-January/019634.html06:08
serjAddison use nero or somethin =p06:08
kimo_pestilence, these are the options "rw,users" !06:08
kimo_pestilence, lemme see the other option06:08
pestilencekimo_: i believe if you mount it as a normal user, the 'noexec' flag is implied06:09
chrissturmis there a pdf viewer for linux that can copy text from the pdf?06:09
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ianwhat do you call that.. icons found in the right upper of your desktop. ...in windows its called tray icon..in ubuntu what is the name?06:09
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kimo_pestilence, they are mount through fstab, I guess that's not user, right ?06:09
pestilencekimo_: the "user" flag implies "noexec"...see `man mount`06:10
Daylighthaterpestilence what's the problem06:10
kimo_ok, I hope that's it. Thanks a million man06:10
pestilencekimo_: put a "exec" in there06:10
DaylighthaterI've been buzzy with fstab the last few days06:10
kimo_will do so, thnx06:10
Daylighthater:d06:10
pestilenceDaylighthater: kimo_ can't run scripts06:10
Daylighthateras user?06:10
kimo_Daylighthater, as root or user, any interpreter06:10
serjanyone recommend a filesharing app? i cant get anything to wokr properly..06:11
Daylighthaterand why do you think it is??06:11
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kimo_serj, amule, bittorrent, apollon06:11
pfpchrissturm: adobe reader can, altough all pdf's dont allow to be copied06:11
kimo_Daylighthater, why or what ?06:11
pfpchrissturm: you'd probably have to do OCR or something in that case06:12
TheRabbitI was trying to install Qtella, and I came to an error about C++ compilers not being able to create executable files...06:12
no0ticsomeone of you uses iPod shuffle with ubuntu?06:12
kimo_chrissturm, acroread 7 is good, if the pdf is not protected, u can copy it06:12
Daylighthaterkimo_: that you can't run scripts... because of restrictions or because of something else??06:12
serjthx Kimo_ gonna check out apollon..06:12
Daylighthaterkimo_: what's the errormsg?06:13
kimo_Daylighthater, I have no idea, pestilence told me I mount with users, which imply noexec, that might be it06:13
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kimo_Daylighthater, err: "permission denied. /bin/sh bad interpreter" or perl or csh ...06:13
AddisonAnyone know a freeware program that will burn the iso correctly?06:14
serjapollon has massive kde dependence =\06:14
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kimo_Addison, k3b ROX06:14
Daylighthaterkimo_:try putting in your fstab in the column where user is default instead of all the rest06:14
kimo_serj, emule amule06:14
Daylighthaterjust plain default06:14
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kimo_:)06:14
kimo_ok06:14
Daylighthaterand otherwhise just add , umask=075506:14
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kimo_does default allow users to write ?06:15
Einhoernchenok lata guys06:15
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DaylighthaterI don't know06:16
`TUX``hi06:16
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Daylighthaterbut for that U add umask=077706:16
`TUX``xbase-clients postinst warning: /etc/X11/xkb/xkbcomp symbolic link points to wrong location /usr/bin/xkbcomp06:16
dooglusanyone know how to get 'middle click' on a tab in firefox deerpark to close the tab?06:16
`TUX``any trick for this error?06:16
Daylighthaterthen everyone can do everything06:16
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thoreauputicAddison: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BurningIsoHowto06:16
thoreauputicAddison: instructions for windows on that page06:17
bob2thoreauputic: ?06:17
bob2Amaranth: ?06:17
thoreauputicbob2: ?06:17
int21hanyone recently tried using RealPlayer 10 ?06:17
serjumask=0000 works for all06:17
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Amaranthbob2: oh, i just wanted to let you know i cleared about half the ban list06:17
kimo_int21h, yep06:17
Amaranthbob2: it was full and i needed some bans06:17
int21hit appears to install correctly but nothing happens when trying to run it06:17
thoreauputicah, the bans :)06:17
int21hkimo_, nothing appears to happen when running it06:18
AddisonThanks.06:18
kimo_int21h, run it from a terminal and watch for errors06:18
int21hkimo_, ps -ef | grep real ..... shows realplay06:18
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jakuhow can I kill a D process?06:18
chrissturmhow can i find out to what package a file belongs?06:18
goldfishjaku: D process?06:18
int21hkimo_, i did that and no errors... no gui ?06:18
thoreauputicchrissturm: if it's installed, do dpkg -S <file>06:19
serjint2lh the terminal doesnt say a thing?06:19
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jakugoldfish: Uninterruptible sleep06:19
blueskiesokiehello06:19
goldfishkk06:19
int21hserj, nada06:19
kimo_int21h, duh dunno ! but who needs realplayer when kaffeine and mplayer are there :)06:19
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serjtried running top to see if the process is alive?06:19
timteWhere do I find kolab packages for hoary?06:19
int21hkimo_, I need it to plugin to Mozilla06:19
blueskiesokiei just changed my video card from ATI to Nvidia. How do i reconfigure X?06:19
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int21hwanna watch http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/cyberwar/view/06:20
nevillehow can I find out what the maximum resolution the graphic adapter is capable of ?06:20
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kimo_int21h, well there is mplayer-plugin into mozilla, anyway, u could try downloading the latest real from their page and installing that!06:20
echobuckettotem-xine rocks IMHO06:20
bob2thoreauputic: you were looking for me a couple of hours ago06:20
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thoreauputicbob2: yeah, it was about a need for ops -  Amaranth took care of it, thanks :)06:21
int21hkimo_, ok I'll try that maybe...but I have had this work in Warty06:21
jakugoldfish: I have the same program opened 5 times.. (rhytmbox) and it's Uninterruptible sleep.. i don't know why..06:21
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goldfishjaku: em, i dont know much, i assume u have tried 'kill -9 pid' ?06:21
blueskiesokieanyone ?06:21
jakugoldfish: yap.. :(06:22
goldfishblueskiesokie: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'06:22
goldfishjaku: hmmm06:22
blueskiesokietnx06:22
c0o_imoets#jokam06:22
nevillethe chipset is intel 82815 , so I use i810 is it possible that the resolution can't be higher 1024 ? The crt can do up to 1280 ?06:22
kimo_can I get a list of packages apt "recommends" installing :)06:23
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bob2thoreauputic: ah06:23
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Amaranthkimo_: apt-cache depends package06:23
kimo_Amaranth, can I do that for all pkgs06:24
goldfishserj: I asked around, the answer i got was reboot :)06:24
Amaranthyeah06:24
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goldfishserj: woops.06:24
goldfishserj: not you.06:24
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int21hkimo_,  howcome mplayer no longer in 'universe' ?06:24
goldfishjaku: reboot was the answer i got :)06:24
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seliniumhow do I create a link from my windows music folder to my linux music folder so I don't have to duplicate 9Gb of data? I was going to use cp -al but there a re loads of spaces in the windows file structure06:25
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thoreauputicint21h: it never was AFAIK - multiverse I think06:25
kimo_int21h, this is my second day with ubuntu, so I dont know much!06:25
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int21hthoreauputic, thanks06:25
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thoreauputicbob2: sorry, I guess I should have done a /whois before pinging you06:26
jakugoldfish: is a windows answer.. :(06:26
bob2thoreauputic: 'tis fine06:26
goldfishjaku: hehe, 'kill -9' should work.06:26
thoreauputicOK :)06:26
goldfishjaku: ps -a, and kill the pid. was the other answer i got.06:27
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thoreauputicselinium: can't you just access the folder from ubuntu and play your music?06:28
thoreauputicselinium: I mean, you should be able to read from it...06:29
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shinuanyone might know how i can turn my border from my xterm off?06:30
shinuor is it an option specific to windowmaker?06:30
goldfishI know how to do it in aterm :)06:31
bob2if you're using WindowMaker, #wmaker06:31
bob2if you're using metacity, use devilspie.06:31
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shinuim on xfce xD06:31
shinubut i saw screenshots from wmaker so i thought...06:31
serjshinu: use aterm06:31
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shinugoldfish: please tell me :D06:31
goldfishshinu: in aterm?06:32
goldfishnot xterm.06:32
shinuyup06:32
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goldfishkk06:32
shinuill try that06:32
seliniumthoreauputic: I theory yes, but I want to be able to look in one folder and see all my music! not two. How do I get around the /My Documents/ problem?06:32
bob2er06:32
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bob2it's not app-specific06:32
bob2it just happens aterm has an option to twiddle the windowmanager setting06:32
goldfishoh right06:32
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NigelSselinium: what my documents problem? :)06:33
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thoreauputicselinium: hmm - I don't know, really: I hardly ever touch my windows partition and haven't for months - in fact I don't know why I still have it at all ...06:34
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nevilleselinium, you can ln -s06:34
int21hcrud and bloody hell.....mplayer dies with illegal instruction....anyone seen this before06:34
seliniumthoreauputic: The windows file system is NTFS so I cant write to it. The fact there a space in between 'My' and 'Docs'06:34
geetergodhow do i force to quit something? my xmms keeps freezing on the desktop... how do i get rid of it?06:34
NigelSselinium: /My\ Documents/06:34
bob2int21h: you install mplayer-686 on a pentium or such?06:34
bob2int21h: or did you compile it yourself?06:35
int21hbob2, nah...used multiverse06:35
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seliniumNigelS CHeers! I knew there was a simple solution!06:35
int21hbob2, I'll get the tarball06:35
goldfishgeetergod: open a terminal, type ps aux |grep xmms06:35
geetergodk06:35
int21hgeetergod, type pkill xmms06:35
goldfishgeetergod: then 'kill -9 <the pid of the xmms>'06:35
goldfishowell06:35
bob2int21h: that won't help...06:35
NigelSselinium: np, putting something in quotes will also force a literal interpretation06:35
goldfishthat's a better solution, yes.06:35
bob2int21h: which version did you install?06:35
int21hint21h,  ? expand plse06:35
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int21hbob2, MPlayer 1.0pre5-3.3.4 (C) 2000-2004 MPlayer Team06:36
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bob2if you're talking to me, say my name and spel out "please"06:36
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shinugoldfish: so how do i do it? :D06:36
bob2int21h: what version of the package did you install?06:36
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goldfishshinu: oh sorry06:37
geetergod'the pid of the xmms'?06:37
int21hbob2, the version available from the multiverse which is MPlayer 1.0pre5-3.3.406:37
bretzelHello, is anybody knows a gnu ncurses IRC channel somewhere ?06:37
blueskiesokiei did the dpkg-reconfigure on xserver now it works .. but it is only showing 640x480 is screen resolution ?06:37
goldfishshinu: just call it with the option '-bw 0'06:37
int21hgeetergod, type ps -ef | grep xmms06:37
bob2int21h: mplayer-386? mplayer-586?06:37
geetergodok06:37
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geetergodi dont understand why it keeps freezing06:37
bob2bretzel: I'd be surprised if there was a useful one.  what do you want to know?06:37
dooglusis there a 'beginners guid to dpkg and apt' somewhere I can read?  I still don't get it.06:37
blueskiesokiedo i need to reconfigure another package also ?06:37
seliniumNigelS: when using ln, which comes first the origin or the detination, and will it recurse?06:38
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thoreauputicdooglus: sudo apt-get install apt-howto06:38
bretzelbob2: Keybinds: SHIFT+ENTER does not report different value than normal ENTER ... :-(06:38
thoreauputicdooglus: but it's fairly detailed06:38
dooglusthoreauputic: I like that.  using "apt" to learn about apt...  :)06:38
thoreauputic:)06:38
dooglusthoreauputic: I like details.  It's vagueness I don't like.  :)06:38
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bob2dooglus: there's not much to know.  if you use ubuntu repositories, then "sudo apt-get install blah" will install blah.  you use "apt-cache search blah" to search for packages with blah in their descriptions"06:39
int21hbob2, it seems to be mplayer-custom 1:1.0-pre5-0.6ubuntu106:39
seliniumthoreauputic: I know what you mean about the windows partition. I have 120Gb sitting doing nothing...06:39
dooglusbob2: the thing I can't get my head around at the moment is what 'dpkg -l <pattern>' does06:39
bob2int21h: and what cpu do you have?06:39
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int21hbob2, PII-40006:39
NigelSselinium: if you want to link a dir to another location then ln -s /existing-dir /new link name.  It links that directory literally so, following the link you will find all the things in that directory06:39
bob2dooglus: "dpkg -l" lists all packages dpkg knows about, which is (mostly) just installed or previously install packages06:40
thoreauputicselinium: :) I have to take a few deep breaths soon and blow it away ;)06:40
bob2int21h: install mplayer-68606:40
bob2dooglus: the pattern is just used to filter out the results of that06:40
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int21hbob2, its not available in the 'multiverse' any ideas ?06:40
dooglusbob2: the first time I booted into ubuntu after installing from the install CD, it spent about half an hour doing apt'ish type stuff.  was that dpkg learning about some packages without installing them?06:41
thoreauputicselinium: fortunately (or maybe unfortunately from an extra spcae viewpoint) , mine is only 10GB06:41
NigelSdooglus: e.g. dpkg -l *image* will show all the mentions in your local cache of packages with an image in their name, so the kernel images and the likes of imagemagick06:41
bob2int21h: it is there06:41
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IcemanV9hm. is there a difference between mplayer-386 & mplayer-686? mine seems to be working just fine. should i install 686? or leave it alone as long as it is working?06:42
dooglusbob2: I don' think the pattern is just used to filter - because I get extra results if I specify a filter, like:06:42
int21hbob2, I just did a search ...... apt-cache search mplayer-68606:42
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doogluschris@chrislap:~$ dpkg -l | grep kde06:42
doogluschris@chrislap:~$ dpkg -l 'kde' | grep kde06:42
dooglusun  kde            <none>         (no description available)06:42
seliniumthoreauputic: LOL I just need another large drive to take off all the stuff i need and 'Kablooey'!06:42
thoreauputicIcemanV9: if it ain't broke, don't fix it, as the saying goes...06:42
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dooglusadding the 'filter' actually resulted in more output...06:42
bob2dooglus: well, it's kinda complicated.  dpkg is older than apt, and back in the day it used to know about packages you haven't yet installed, too.  nowadays, only apt needs to care, but dpkg will still remember everything that is installed and later removed...all that apt stuff at install is apt setting up it's database, ut dpkg is picking some of it up, too.06:43
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dooglusbob2: it's the complexity that I'm struggling to understand.  the man page doesn't seem to go into it.06:43
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bob2IcemanV9: it's supposed to be slightly faster, but I don't know if it is usefully quicker.  you can try it and see...06:43
bob2dooglus: ok, you're right, I have no idea why they give different results06:44
dooglusbob2: the thing is, I don't have "kde" installed, and I've never uninstalled it either, so I can only assume that it has never been installed.  yet 'dpkg -l kde' knows about it somehow.06:44
bob2I've never seen that before06:44
IcemanV9yeah. i do have 686-kernel. maybe i ought to try ...06:44
int21hbob2, any ideas why multiverse no showing mplayer-68606:44
bob2int21h: I don't know, it's there for me06:44
int21hdarn it06:44
IcemanV9didn't know there is mplayer-686 out there until it was mentioned in this channel06:44
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bob2int21h: can you paste the output of "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" and "apt-cache policy mplayer-686" to #flood?06:45
IcemanV9alright - here goes nothing06:45
JasonFHey :) is there an equivalent to SID in ubuntu06:45
NigelSdooglus: hmm, those commands are quite different - think about it - you said dpkg -l 'kde' so only a package called kde will be returned, now if you type dpkg -l *kde* you will see all mentions of kde, plus just doing dpkg -l only lists installed packages06:45
bob2JasonF: breezy, but please don't use it06:45
dooglusbob2: I think 'dpkg -l' (without a filter) only shows installed packages - try $ dpkg -l | grep -v '^ii'06:45
bob2NigelS: the grep should include the kde package, but it doesn't06:45
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dooglusNigelS: right.06:45
JasonFbob2: is that "please don't use it" like SID is "please don't use it" or... is there known breakage issues?06:45
bob2dooglus: it's not as simpe as that, "dpkg -l | grep \^ii" returns stuff06:46
NigelSbob2: in which the first command? without wildcards it'll only return the meta-package called kde, i.e. with the quotes06:46
bob2JasonF: as in X doesn't work at the moment and last week getty somehow got removed from utillinux entirely06:46
thoreauputicJasonF: breezy is much more dangerous than Sid :)06:46
JasonFheh, okay :)06:46
bob2NigelS: the output of "dpkg -l" does not include the "kde" package at all, but "dpkg -l kde" does.06:46
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JasonFI don't mind breakage, but that seems to be a bit much06:47
int21hbob2, I see the issue06:47
IcemanV9JasonF: actually, breezy is going through a rough testing right now. lots of broken things.06:47
drspinanyone know of a good tutorial on webserver file permissions?? what about one on umask?06:47
NigelSbob2: yes, because the kde meta package isn't installed , in state ii06:47
JasonFthen question two, is it possible to add SID to sources.list -- or is there known incompats with debian vs ubuntu packages06:47
int21hbob2, it was using deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ warty multiverse06:47
bob2int21h: ah06:47
int21hmy mistake06:48
bob2JasonF: please don't06:48
int21hbob2, thanks06:48
bob2JasonF: or, if you do, do not ask for help from anyone, ever, since it will break06:48
JasonFbob2: "it will break" would have been sufficient ;)06:48
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dooglusbob2: it's not quite so simple, no.  I think if you grep out the 'ii' lines, you're left with just the packages which have only config files?  the ones you've 'removed' but not 'completely removed', as synaptic would put it06:48
bob2NigelS: I don't get what you mean06:48
JasonFI'm just itching for my gentoo ~x86 level of package-newness, but I'll be able to survive06:49
bob2but it is 030006:49
bob2dooglus: mostly, but dpkg will know about purged (config files gone, too) ones, too06:49
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dooglusbob2: dpkg will know about them, but it won't list them when you run "dpkg -l" without a pattern.  see the 'dpkg-query' man page.06:50
dooglusI quote: "If no package-name-pattern06:50
dooglus              is  given,  list  all  packages in /var/lib/dpkg/status."06:50
IcemanV9interesting .. they do have mplayer-k7. now i know. :)06:50
bob2ah-hah06:50
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bob2dooglus: you learn something knew every day, thanks!06:50
dooglusbob2: I'm glad we (kind of) got to the bottom of that.06:51
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bob2s/we/you/, I didn't even know dpkg-query exist :)06:51
NigelSyes, dpkg -l only shows ii and rc it seems, so a grep for the kde meta-package in state pn will not find it, so you have to dpkg -l kde to see it and dpkg -l *kde* to see the non ii, rc packages06:51
dooglusbob2: I've been banned for less on a different distro's channel.06:51
bob2for less than what?06:51
dooglus(I was "belittling an op" apparently, by trying to get to the bottom of an issue neither of us understood)06:52
bob2hahaha06:52
dooglusbob2: I just challenged your authority - didn't you feel the sting?06:52
JasonFstupid ops!06:52
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bob2dooglus: oh yeah, I mean, I don't understand it, so you must be wrong06:52
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dooglusbob2: it was worse than that.  it was "I've been a developer on this package for over 2 years, and nobody ever reported the bug you've just reported before, so you must be an idiot"06:53
jeroen_dooglus, where was that? :O06:54
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JasonFjeroen_: I get the feeling it'll start with a d and end with ebian06:54
dooglusjeroen_: I'm not at liberty to say.  <cough>mandriva</cough>06:54
JasonFah, lol06:54
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jeroen_what a weird new name, mandriva06:54
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WhiteRabbitmandrake had a ring to it as it was a /root06:55
dooglusthey finished up banning pretty much all of the UK from the channel too.  the biggest UK ISP is banned...06:55
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thoreauputicdooglus: heh - "It's a Family channel" ;)06:56
dooglusstill, it worked out well for me - I got to try ubuntu, which I never would have done had I not been pushed out from #mandriva06:56
sleptI'm expieriencing something wiered , I configuerd xorg for 1280x1024 when gdm starts things go right , when I log in it switches back to 1024, I even removed all the other resolutions - still same thing happens ???06:56
makisupacan someone help with the hal-device-manager....it starts (the box forms) but then it closes immediately?  Thanks06:56
dooglusdoes anyone use 'Rhythmbox', the GNOME mp3 player, with a large music collection?06:58
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bob2yes, it woorks poorly06:58
thoreauputicdooglus: it tends to choke06:59
makisupaok -- just found out device manager starts if my USB CDRW is NOT plugged in...odd06:59
dooglusbob2: is there any app which has a media library which works well?06:59
bob2dooglus: I quite like cplay06:59
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bob2but I suspect people used to rhythmbox won't06:59
thoreauputicdooglus: I've had better luck with amarok (KDE app, of course, though)06:59
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dooglusI used to use amarok (or something like that) on Mandriva, but I'm trying to give up Qt now that I'm on ubuntu.  I've managed to avoid running anything KDE/Qt'y so far.06:59
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bob2dooglus: muine is nice, too07:00
bob2but very album oriented07:00
thoreauputicdooglus: hmm - ideology or experience?07:00
dooglusthoreauputic: amarok was pretty good - it coped with all my mp3 files07:00
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Fator_Deebob2, Amaranth?07:01
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dooglusthoreauputic: neither.  I've nothing against KDE, but I just think it makes sense not to mix GTK and KDE apps, for the sake of memory conservation07:01
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Amaranthnot quick enough on the draw07:01
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salva_Hi!07:01
thoreauputicdooglus: I think amarok is the best I've tried so far - but I often just start up xmms or beep-media-player from a directory or use streamtuner07:01
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salva_Hi world :)07:01
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Fator_Deegah, entrance exams on chemistry tomorrow :-p07:03
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dooglusmuine has a *load* of dependancies.07:06
bob2yup07:06
bob2but thomboy uses them too07:06
bob2and you want tomboy installed07:06
dooglusI'll give it a go.  it's a .NET thing?07:06
bob2so it's ok ;)07:06
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thoreauputicbob2: wow, cplay is tiny - and the interface is simple enough - nice call :)07:06
bob2thoreauputic: heh07:06
bob2thoreauputic: and it sits nicely in screen :)07:06
dooglustomboy?  /me goes to investigate07:07
thoreauputicindeed :)07:07
thoreauputicdooglus: mono07:08
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dooglusthoreauputic: verb?07:09
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thoreauputicdooglus: um - I meant "mono not .NET" but I guess you knew that07:10
dooglusthoreauputic: ok, i see.07:10
AddisonAny idea why Ubuntu wouldn't power the PCMCIA card?  It seems to detect it in the device manager.07:10
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doogluscan I use 'apt-cache' to view a description of 'tomboy'?  what's the command?07:10
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bob2dooglus: apt-cache show tomboy07:10
yesterdaywhat's the mono and .not something?07:11
dooglusgreat, thanks.07:11
yesterdaysounds like ... snake-oil07:11
dooglusyesterday: muine and tomboy both07:12
thoreauputicyesterday: heh - mono is the open answer to .NET07:12
thoreauputicyesterday: in simple terms...07:12
yesterday(a trap for luxers)07:12
dooglusmono is the answer but only if you phrase the question very carefully07:13
thoreauputicheheh07:13
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toxicfumei'm using a windows application to increase the size of my mepis partition, but it says that i need to restart into linux and run /slib/grub..but who do i do next? :S07:13
dooglususing mono feels even worse than using java to me.  best not to become dependant on either one of the,07:13
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thoreauputicdooglus: otherwise the answer as always is "42" ;-)07:14
bob2toxicfume: sounds more like a #mepis question...07:14
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bob2dooglus: well, it is apparently very nice to work in, and it's an independent standard, and the implementation is entirely Free...07:14
toxicfumebob2: why?07:14
bob2toxicfume: since you're using mepis?07:14
toxicfumebob2: no, this is on my deskto07:15
toxicfumedesktop07:15
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toxicfumebob2: you could'vebeen right if i was on my laptop, but i'm not07:15
dooglusbob2: it's an independant standard?07:15
bob2dooglus: ECMA blessed it07:16
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dooglusmuine seems pretty nice, but as you say, it's album-centric07:17
bob2yeah, even with all my albums I didn't like it07:18
peter_hi, wie warum ist der firefox-1.0.4 nicht normalen update drinn? habt ihr nen tipp wie ich ihn am besten installiere?07:18
dooglusif it doesn't fall over while importing my music folder, I'll stick with it for a bit and see how I get on with it.07:18
yesterdayopen now... but close in the future <- stardard07:18
jeroen_peter_, Deutsch reden Sie in #ubuntu-de07:18
peter_ups07:18
doogluswhat I quite liked in amarok was the easy navigaton, and the recommendations of 'similar songs'07:18
yesterdaybranch? (patents...hehe...)07:20
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caineif a file is a .torrent what kind of file is that supposed to be?07:20
dooglushrm.  nautilus crashed while muine was importing my music folder07:20
doogluscaine: it's a bittorrent file07:21
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caineb/c they have them as a file im d/l but its on gnutella07:21
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doogluscaine: you should be abel to download the torrent using any bittorrent client07:21
cainesearch the phantom of the opera in gnutella and it has some .torrent files for it07:22
doogluscaine: makes sense.  the websites which supply .torrent files keep getting shut down - so it makes sense to use gnutella to supply the .torrent files, which in turn direct you to the torrent07:22
caineok07:23
goldfishcaine: get azureus or something07:23
bob2someone still has to be the tracker, tho07:23
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cainegoldfish: why would i want to do that?07:23
doogluscaine: bittorrent has no 'search' mechanism, so finding the .torrent files is the weak point in the whole process07:23
goldfishk, no matter.07:23
jeroen_goldfish, Azureus uses java, right? :/07:23
goldfishjeroen_: it does.07:23
goldfishbest client ive used though.07:23
doogluscaine: azureus is a java bittorrent client, yes.  and it only works with Sun's JVM, too.07:24
jeroen_better use something else then07:24
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thoreauputicdooglus: hmm... the java trap in action then :/07:24
caineoh screw that07:24
Shuddertrixlike bittornado-gui bittornado, like i recommended to you in a pm caine07:25
jeroen_yeah, screw java :p07:25
dooglusthoreauputic: yes, but...  it's SO pretty...  and SO functional!07:25
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thoreauputicof course ;)07:25
WhiteRabbitAz is very nice07:25
xyzxHey guys how do I open a port with ubuntu?07:25
bob2xyzx: ubuntu has no firewall by default07:25
ShuddertrixAzureus is crap mainly because it uses java and is too bloated, uses more resources then bittornado or the regular bittorrent client07:25
dooglusthe ubuntu bittorrent tracker was down for a few days last week.  normal bittorrent clients were unable to download the ubuntu dvd for a few days, but the magic of azureus meant that the dvd was still available, even with the tracker down!07:25
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WhiteRabbitShuddertrix: FUD07:26
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ShuddertrixWhiteRabbit: Heh.07:26
jeroen_Is bittornado good if you're only a sometimes-torrent-user?07:26
ShuddertrixWell, i consider it bloated because it uses more resources07:26
jeroen_I know use the Gnome torrent thing07:26
WhiteRabbithttp://larytet.sourceforge.net/btRat.shtml  <-- this just hit /. today interesting bittorrent that hides your IP07:26
jeroen_now07:26
Shuddertrixjeroen_: yes07:26
bob2jeroen_: yes07:26
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dooglusjeroen_: I managed for a long time just using the curses interface - that's fine.07:26
Shuddertrixbittornado-gui07:27
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xyzxbob2,no need to open port 25 for postfix to receive mail?07:27
bob2xyzx: indeed07:27
dooglusxyzx: what do you mean 'open'?07:27
pfpbtqueue.sourceforge.net is nice if you want to go light07:27
bob2xyzx: your isp may well be filtering it themselves, though07:27
Shuddertrixsomehow, python+wxwindows is less bloaty for me then java07:27
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dooglushttp://www.pythonchallenge.com/ is quite fun - it's a puzzle site where you get to learn/use python to solve the puzzles.07:28
xyzxbob2,  when I ask canyouseeme.org for port 25 unswer is negative07:28
WhiteRabbitbob2: do you use ubuntu or debian more?07:29
Shuddertrixthis cd-rw is taking much longer to erase then last time..07:29
bob2xyzx: then perhaps your isp is filtering it07:29
bob2WhiteRabbit: ubuntu, these days07:29
jeroen_bob2, xyzx, ubuntu comes with iptables, which is a firewall IIRC07:29
Shuddertrixspeak of the devil, the thing popped out when i returned that line07:29
bob2jeroen_: yes, but it doesn't nothing by default07:29
dooglusthe default iptables setup is to allow everything...07:29
jeroen_I installed bittornado-gui. Now I need something to download07:30
bob2"doesn't do anything", I mean.07:30
xyzxbob2, but I can send out email! if ISP is blocking outgoing mail should be blocked too!07:30
dooglusjeroen_: there are some torrents here: http://www.welcometothescene.com/download.shtml - it's a series of movies from the Sony corp about the warez scene07:31
bob2xyzx: no, that's not how it works, sorry07:31
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Shuddertrixwow, how minimal resources k3b is taking when burning a cd07:31
yesterdayw a r e z07:31
dooglusxyzx: your ISP could be blocking incoming connections to port 25 and not blocking any outgoing connections at all07:31
xyzxdooglus, OK I see07:32
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pfpmy isp includes an smtp relay service, because they block incoming port 2507:32
bob2all isps include smtp relay services07:32
pfpi meant inward07:32
bob2ah07:32
pfpyou put them as 2. MX and so on07:33
jeroen_eww, btdownloadgui is ugly!07:36
Shuddertrixjeroen_: Can't be that ugly.07:37
bob2btdownloadcurses is where it's atr07:37
ShuddertrixMine looks dashing, but i'm a KDE user and I am using the gtk-qt engine :D07:37
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dooglusmuine imported my playlist without a problem, and seems to be working fine.07:42
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doogluscplay needs a separate player - which do you suggest? mpg321, splay, mpg123 or madplay?07:43
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bob2madplay07:43
TycheI just installed Hula MTA with my Ubuntu installation and I'm wondering what my "object's distinguished name" might be.07:44
bob2do you know much about LDAP?>07:44
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spiderwormhey all is there a way to get a version of a package installed via apt-cache?07:45
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bob2apt-cache policy blah07:45
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thoreauputicspiderworm: try apt-cache policy <package>07:45
igni-mmm, i recently installed the new ubuntu, 5.0407:45
thoreauputicbob2: rats, you're too quick for me ;)07:46
igni-it didnt ask me for a root pass during install07:46
spiderwormsweet thank you thoreauputic !07:46
igni-is this normal ?07:46
spiderwormand bob2!07:46
bob2igni-: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo07:46
dooglusoh no!!!  I just installed 'beep-media-player' and the default skin is a debian logo!  surely some mistake?!?07:46
igni-thx07:46
bob2igni-: yes, it's normal, and at the end of the install, it explained it to you07:46
igni-hehe07:46
igni-my bad07:46
igni-:)07:46
igni-lets read up07:46
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thoreauputicdooglus: heh - install some xmms skins right away!07:47
destinydooglus same here.07:47
thoreauputicdooglus: or winamp skins if that's your thing...07:47
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dooglusthoreauputic: xmms skins work with beep-media-player?07:47
thoreauputicdooglus: yup07:47
jeroen_dooglus, search the ubuntuforums, there's a nice ubuntu skin somewhere07:48
kainehe, if I load some skins every time I log back into my account beep media player stucks with default skin everytime07:48
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Plentehhey everyone07:48
WhiteDovehiya everyone07:48
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thoreauputickain: that's odd07:48
destinyhi.07:48
WhiteDovehows it going?07:48
PlentehI have a bit of a problem installing ubuntu, I get to installing base package, and when it asks me to select a kernel, i pick one and it gives me an error each time07:48
kainit always happen to me, but not a prob07:48
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igni-thx bob207:49
igni-helped alot07:49
igni-:p07:49
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WhiteDoveI wonder if someone could help me please?07:49
Plentehanyone know what could be causing that?07:49
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Pop_pa_FrEaKman never change a good thing when it works07:50
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destinycafuego, are you here?07:50
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TycheIs Webmin not very popular with Ubuntu crowd? It is something I would like to use for a couple things, but it doesn't seem to play nicely.07:50
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WhiteDovePlenteh: did you check against md5 checksum, to see if the iso was good?07:51
Plentehno i did not07:51
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Plentehbut i suppse it would help if i knew what that meant07:51
WhiteDoveoh07:51
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Ubuntianin France operating systems are spread like this: windows 96%, Mac 3% and linux 0.7% :-/07:51
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dooglusjeroen_: do you mean http://anka.org/henrik/humanxmms/ ?07:52
WhiteDovean md5 checksum verifies that the iso is all there and not corrupt07:52
Plentehhow would i go about doing this checksum?>07:52
WhiteDovethe same place you got the iso from07:52
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WhiteDoveyou can get the md5 file there07:52
dooglusWhiteDove: if the .iso has been compromised on the server - changed in some way - wouldn't the md5 sum file have been changed to match it?07:53
WhiteDovenow as for the program that checks the iso against the checksum, hmmmm. Any help guys?07:53
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bob2md5sum.07:53
dooglusWhiteDove: just run "md5sum file.iso"07:53
yesterdayand google md5 value07:53
WhiteDoveI thought it was to make sure that the file wasn't corrput07:53
Plentehgot the iso from here07:53
Plentehhttp://se.releases.ubuntu.com/5.04/07:53
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WhiteDovedownloads sometimes do corrupt07:54
bob2badly burnt disks are more often the problem07:54
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WhiteDoveoh, okay07:54
WhiteDovesorry. Im a newb to this. Lol07:54
Plentehi downlaoded he dvd iso with Live on it07:54
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bob2Plenteh: yes, you need to check that it was downloaded correctly, then that it was burnt correctly07:55
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bkinmanSo, i want to see animation upon minimizing, i want transparency and drop shadows in xorg, where do i go?07:56
dooglusI like how the beep-media-player 'sticks' to the edge on my desktop.  Can I get all my windows to do the same?07:56
oDysseashow do you make X not run automaticaly at boot?07:56
WhiteDovebkinman: you need to install xcompmgr and transset07:56
dooglusoDysseas: I did it, but it was a little tricky07:57
bob2oDysseas: why do you want to do that?07:57
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bob2e.g. are you reading a broken nvidia howto?07:58
thoreauputicdooglus: shift-drag07:58
thoreauputicdooglus: should snap to the edge in gnome07:58
oDysseasbob2: because I get a blank screen when X is starting and I want to try and fix it07:58
oDysseasthis is a fresh install07:58
Plentehi just ran FastSum on my dvd iso07:58
dooglusoDysseas: well, no, it wasn't that bad.  I did 2 things: 1) set the default runlevel to 2 in /etc/inittab and 2) stopped gdm from running in runlevel 2 using a program called sysv-rc-conf07:58
Plentehand it didnt say anything07:58
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oDysseasis there a way to kill X from the command line?07:59
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oDysseasctrl alt backspace doesn't work07:59
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dooglusoDysseas: "sudo telinit 1" will take you to single user mode07:59
thoreauputicoDysseas: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop08:00
dooglusoDysseas: that's better, what thoreauputic said08:00
WhiteDove0Dysseas: init 108:00
oDysseasok thanx a lot08:00
WhiteDoveoh wel, lol08:00
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thoreauputictelinit 1 will disconnect networking I think08:00
WhiteDovecould someone please tell me how I setup my wireless card for my laptop please?08:01
goldfishWhiteDove: chipset?08:01
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drspinwhat is the default password for webmin on Ubuntu??08:01
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WhiteDovegoldfish: all I know is that it is a Belkin08:02
nemesishi08:02
WhiteDovebrb08:02
nemesisneed some help with synaptic08:02
nemesisanyone?08:02
goldfishWhiteDove: type 'lspci' in a terminal08:02
Pop_pa_FrEaKsoot08:02
goldfishnemesis: what's up?08:02
Pop_pa_FrEaKshot08:02
Pop_pa_FrEaKshoot*08:02
goldfish:)08:02
ted_I have a general linux question, why does my hard disc run more under linux08:02
yesterdayshoot a shot08:02
nemesisi would like to know where can i get a updated list of repositories08:02
Pop_pa_FrEaKlol yesterday08:02
thoreauputicdrspin: run it from the root shell (sudo doesn't play nice with webmin)08:03
dabated_: it is a jogging, more so than running, linux computers are more disciplined08:03
drspinthoreauputic: ????08:03
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goldfishdrspin: sudo bash08:03
goldfishthen run it from there08:03
toranhey guys, does anyone have experience getting kmuddy [ http://kmuddy.net ]  running on ubuntu?08:03
thoreauputicor sudo -s08:03
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ted_daba lol08:03
Pop_pa_FrEaKthoreauputic, smack me real hard if I ever decide to change from ubuntu ok ?08:03
thoreauputicPop_pa_FrEaK: OK :)08:04
nemesisdrspin you can also modify /etc/shadow and make "su" available08:04
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struggleranyone for a procmail / spamassassin question (local .procmailrc not executed) ?08:04
Pop_pa_FrEaKI tried out FC3 and found it tooooooo bloated08:04
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bob2struggler: just ask...08:04
bkinmanHrmm, i just installed xcompmgr and i dont have the transset command08:05
goldfishbkinman: did u install transset?08:05
nemesisso...anyone knows where to get a list of repositories?08:05
struggler<bob2> everything works fine except ~/.procmailrc isn't executed08:05
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drspinnemesis: thoreauputic: goldfish: sudo -s | /etc/init.d/webmin restart |08:05
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drspin???08:05
bob2struggler: that's a MTA config issue, not a SA one08:05
nemesisis that for me goldfish?08:05
nemesisi mean... drspin?08:06
bob2struggler: what MTA are you using?08:06
strugglerbob2: ok.. can you help me08:06
drspinnemesis: it means that you lost me and I'm guessing...08:06
nemesishmmm08:06
nemesisok08:06
bkinmangoldfish nope08:06
WhiteDovegoldfish: RaLink RaLink RT2500 802.11 Cardbus Reference Card (rev 0108:06
nemesissorry08:06
goldfishbkinman: :)08:06
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goldfishnemesis: em ubuntuguide.org has a sample sources.list but i think someone said it's dodgy ....08:07
drspinso if I set a password for root then dpkg-reconfigure webmin it should work08:07
goldfishIs there a repos list on ubuntulinux.org ?08:07
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WhiteDoveyeah, the backports on ubuntuguide aren't good08:07
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transgressi think ubuntuguide's sources has backports08:07
ted_goldfish I have had no problems using the sources.list from ubuntuguide08:07
transgressheh08:07
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strugglerbob2: postfix08:07
goldfishneither did I08:07
transgressi don't find it to be of the best solution to leave backports on there all the time... although is firefox in backports?08:07
bob2struggler: then ~/.procmailrc will be run by default08:08
bob2struggler: watch your postfix logs to see what is happening08:08
JormundgandI was trying to evangelise a heathen friend to Ubuntu and they replied that their job involved teaching Windows at a college. Is there some counter to this? What should I do?08:08
transgressperhaps if the backports ff doesn't require gnome support i will use it08:08
transgressJormundgand: give up.08:08
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WhiteDoveSee you later guys08:08
thoreauputicJormundgand: tell the college to grow a brain08:08
dabaJormundgand: stop converting people, just tell them, ok, you live in ignorance, then, see ya later.\08:09
transgressyou haven't seen me before though08:09
nemesiswhat do you do when trying to installing something synaptic says "package is not instantable?"08:09
nemesisusing multiverse?08:09
transgressnemesis: looks like you don't install it.  and i bet you are using marillat aren't you?08:09
Jormundgandthoreauputic: Unfortunately colleges don't decide what they teach. It's a matter of curriculum.08:09
nemesisnot sure about what's marillat08:09
nemesisthe repository?08:09
transgressyes08:09
strugglerbob2:according to the log, the global procmailrc is executing (invoking spamc) and the mail is delivered from there.  The local .procmailrc is never called.08:10
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transgressftp.nerim.net i think is what it is listened as...08:10
transgresserr listed08:10
bob2struggler: global?08:10
bob2struggler: you specifically configured postfix to use a global one?08:10
strugglerbob2: /etc/procmailrc08:10
drspins no one has answered my question yet -- how can I log into webmin??08:10
strugglerbob2: nope, never touched postfix08:10
nemesistransgress: grep says there isn't anything in sources.list about marillat or nerim08:10
thoreauputicJormundgand: sad - so the people to lobby are the curriculum writers: how anyone can really learn about coding etc with a closed OS is beyond me...08:11
strugglerbob2: just followed spamassassin directions08:11
transgressnemesis: what package isn't installable then?08:11
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zacehoi08:11
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nemesistransgress: amsn i think, i'm not sure08:11
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DarKnesS_WolFwho can i change the screen colors form 16bit to and from 32bit?08:12
DarKnesS_WolFsorry how *08:12
transgressnemesis: well if you can't give us details about the problem we can't really help.08:12
nemesistransgress: but the ones which are not installable are de dependences08:12
transgresswell tell us the deps and what the error is...08:12
nemesistransgress: ok08:13
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nemesistransgress: i'll tell you when i were sure, thanks08:13
dooglusdrspin: what is your problem with webmin?  I just installed it and it worked immediately08:13
oDysseasafter a fresh install is sshd running?08:13
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nemesistransgress: any repository to add? i just got the ones which came with the original distribution08:14
sigoDysseas: no08:14
sigyou have to install it08:14
daba sudo aptitude install openssh-server is what you need to do, oDysseas.08:14
thoreauputicoDysseas: no -  sudo apt-get install openssh-server08:14
daba:-p08:14
dooglusdrspin: run "sudo netstat -ap | grep 10000" - do you see a perl process listening on 10000?  if so, webmin is up08:14
thoreauputicor what daba said :)08:14
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oDysseasand then will it start, or do I have to start it manualy?08:14
dejava5#yogyakarta08:14
nernhello again ubuntu folk08:14
thoreauputicoDysseas: it will start08:15
oDysseasok thanx again08:15
destinyok08:15
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Jeezisshould i add the breezy repositories to my ubuntu update manager? and if so what are the addresses?08:18
thoreauputicJeezis: /topic08:18
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Jeezisthoreauputic: ah, my bad :-p08:19
Pop_pa_FrEaKhey thoreauputic is it easy to add musepack as an encoder to rip to ?08:19
thoreauputic:)08:19
thoreauputicPop_pa_FrEaK: I haven't a clue08:19
Pop_pa_FrEaKok will look around08:19
dababetter than looking asquare I always say...08:20
strugglerbob2: thanks for your time, I'll start looking at the postfix config, maybe there is something in there08:20
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dabadict pun I guess for me...08:21
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dabathoreauputic: ok, I kinda get your point...08:25
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toranhey guys, does anyone have experience getting kmuddy [ http://kmuddy.net ]  running on ubuntu?08:27
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thoreauputictoran: #kubuntu maybe08:29
toranbah, there aren't as many people in there, a lot less likely to get my question answered -_-08:29
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] BreliC[anyone here running AMD64 with 32-bit Ubuntu?08:31
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rubiojrhey08:31
rubiojrgood afternoon08:31
goldfishhmmm08:31
goldfishhi rubiojr08:31
rubiojrat least here08:31
rubiojrin ES08:31
goldfish] BreliC[: Why would u do that? :)08:31
rubiojr:)08:31
] BreliC[i'm trying to figure out which mplayer to install... i have a K8 mobo, but in the repo, they only have K6 and K7... will those do?08:31
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] BreliC[goldfish, because 64 ain't ready08:32
goldfish] BreliC[: ah right, sorry, i was just curious :)08:32
] BreliC[goldfish, uh, 64bit... not enough packages08:32
goldfishah08:32
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rubiojrI've finally managed to get X working in a freesh breezy08:32
yahalomwhat do i need to edit in my xorg.conf in order to have ati work? change ati to fglrx and what else?08:32
rubiojrsome glitches with the fonts08:32
rubiojranyone had issues with this?08:32
GNAM] BreliC[: I08:32
dabarubiojr: yes, known fact.08:32
goldfishyahalom: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:32
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GNAMin two different pc08:33
] BreliC[GNAM, have you installed mplayer?  If so, which one?08:33
yahalomgoldfish, y?08:33
rubiojrI've found some workarounds in the forums and bugzilla08:33
yahalomgoldfish, i want 3D acceleration08:33
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goldfishk08:33
GNAMmplayer? NO08:33
goldfishnm, misread the question.08:33
dabarubiojr: well, good for you...not much help about it here, tho.08:33
rubiojrah08:33
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dabarubiojr: cause its not supported yet by the devs, and whatnots, and this channel is mostly newbies, anyhow still.08:34
rubiojrI see08:34
rubiojrdo you think it's a good idea08:34
rubiojrto go -devel08:34
rubiojrand comment there?08:34
thoreauputicrubiojr: no08:34
rubiojrpretty new08:35
rubiojrto debian/ubu bug reporting08:35
thoreauputicrubiojr: I wouldn't08:35
rubiojrsuppose08:35
rubiojrI see08:35
rubiojrI'll let them work08:35
rubiojrthen08:35
rubiojr:)08:35
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dabarubiojr: no, they dont need you to file bugs about that, they know this, I think, but you can ask a nice polite question there...08:35
rubiojrOk no problem08:35
rubiojrsince I got it working08:36
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rubiojrI only want to report08:36
dabadisclaimer: afaik08:36
rubiojrbut I'll wait08:36
] BreliC[has anyone installed mplayer on Ubuntu 32bit with an AMD64?08:36
rubiojrAnyway08:36
thoreauputicdaba: most likely they would just refer him back here08:36
rubiojrthanks very much dudes08:36
kotatsu] BreliC[: yes, why?08:36
daba!anyone08:36
kotatsu] BreliC[: I've stopped compiling it myself and I just install from apt now08:36
] BreliC[kotatsu, which version did you install?  i'm just wondering which one i should choose (AMD64 3500+ K8N mobo)08:37
kotatsuI installed mplayer-k708:37
kotatsuand mencoder-k708:37
] BreliC[kotatsu, ok, no probs?08:37
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kotatsuyup, work fine08:37
] BreliC[kotatsu, thanks.. i'll try that08:37
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dark_irc://irc.ff.st/manga-france08:37
kotatsureally I don't think it makes a difference in actually working08:37
kotatsuit just affects performance08:37
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kotatsua 686 kernel runs perfectly on my AMD64 systems08:38
kotatsubut I use the k7 series08:38
] BreliC[i thought so, just didn't want to muck up the system :)08:38
doogluswhen I run top, I see a line like this at the top of the screen:08:38
dooglusCpu(s):  9.0% us,  1.0% sy,  0.0% ni,  0.0% id, 90.0% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.0% si08:38
doogluswhat is 'wa'?  and why might it be at 90%?08:38
dooglus(funny that the man page for top doesn't say what all those 2 letter abbreviations stand for)08:38
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dabawithout assignment, maybe, since it adds up to 100% with the us-user&sy-system.08:39
thoreauputicdooglus: yeah, I wish I could find that info too08:39
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newz2000any one here have success with kickstart and hoary? My tests seem to install much more than I asked for it. My goal is to make a quick-install cd with a custom set of packages.08:40
dooglusthoreauputic: I guess it's user, system, nice, idle, then - um - 'wait'?  and as for 'hi' and 'si' I have no idea08:40
dooglusand if it's 'wait', well, a waiting process isn't using the cpu, so I don't get it...08:40
thoreauputicdooglus: yes, the first few seem pretty clear at least08:40
dooglushow weird not to document what the output means in the manual page though, eh?08:41
dabayou guys think what I said makes sense?08:41
thoreauputicdooglus: my "wa" shows zero here08:41
dooglusdaba: without assignment to what though?08:41
thoreauputicoh - actually 0.2%08:41
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dooglusthoreauputic: I think mine is usually zero, but I'm running an 'updatedb' with my huge external drive mounted.08:42
dabawihout assignment to any of those other fields, idle in other words.08:42
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dogghey, anybody managed to compile wien under amd64 ???08:42
thoreauputicdooglus: hmm... w_   access ? Guessing...08:42
doggi mean wine.08:42
] BreliC[kotatsu, that's strange... mplayer and mencoder through Synaptic complain that dependencies cannot be resolved08:43
] BreliC[kotatsu, Depends: libfontconfig1 (>=2.3.0) but 2.2.3-4ubuntu7 is to be installed08:43
] BreliC[  Depends: libvorbis0a (>=1.1.0) but 1.0.1-1 is to be installed08:43
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littlewormis there any advanced math and geometry drawings app?08:43
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] BreliC[i have all my repositories enabled..08:43
doogluslittleworm: did you see 'sodipodi'?  probably not what you're looking for, but maybe worth a try08:44
destiny] BreliC[ exactly, disable marillat08:44
thoreauputicgnuplot?08:44
] BreliC[destiny, ahh, thanks08:44
destinykk08:44
dogganyone is using amd64 here ?08:45
AirWaysWhat apt-get package is SSL for Apache?08:45
AirWaysHow I can install it?08:45
wdhAirWays, apt-cache search ssl |grep apache08:46
] BreliC[dogg, i am, but with 32bit Ubuntu08:46
destinydogg did you try #wine? there is one, also a #cedega08:46
wdhAirWays, apache-ssl iirc08:46
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doggwell...08:46
thoreauputicAirWays: apt-cache search apache | grep ssl08:46
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AirWayslibssl0.9.6 - SSL shared libraries (old version) <- that?08:46
thoreauputichaha08:46
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wdhlittleworm, can you explain more clear what you are looking for?08:46
thoreauputicwdh: same effect I guess ;)08:46
jorgpI just installed ubuntu and I have no sound, mixer channels are not muted and volumns are up and sound modules are loaded08:47
wdhthoreauputic, more or less :)08:47
AirWayslibssl0.9.7  <-- That is SSL install files?08:47
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wdhAirWays, you just want 'apache-ssl' i guess08:47
AirWaysWell I want to install PhpBB forum and that needs SSL I think08:47
AirWaysI dont remember08:47
underdogAirWays: no it doesn't08:48
doggi saw on the ubuntu forum that some of the guys get it running and i get error while compiling" is not a valid 64 bit base/index expression" what is strange, cause i got the cvs server from ubuntu amd64 guide...08:48
AirWaysNo?08:48
AirWaysOnly PHP and mysql?08:48
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thoreauputicAirWays: apt-cache show  apache-ssl to see08:48
doggssl is an additional component to phpbb208:48
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doggonly php and db.08:48
doggto run.08:48
AirWaysPostgreSQL <- I need that?08:48
littlewormwdh: not what i was looking for08:48
underdogAirWays: you can use mysql08:49
AirWaysOkay08:49
doggyeah, get mysql08:49
wdhAirWays, just install 'phpbb2' then08:49
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goldfishdooglus: wait cpu percentage08:49
wdhAirWays, 'sudo apt-get install phpbb2'08:49
wdhlittleworm, what _are_ you looking for?08:49
AirWaysWhere it goes?08:49
wdhAirWays, never mind.. open synaptic and search for that package08:50
AirWaysI dont have X, that is server08:50
wdhwhere _what_ goes then?08:50
AirWaysNothing anymore08:50
littlewormwdh: i'm looking for an app which i can draw geometrical forms in it, and maybe functions08:50
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jeroen_littleworm, maths?08:50
thoreauputiclittleworm: apt-cache show gnuplot08:51
wdhlittleworm, a CAD program? or gnuplot might work..08:51
thoreauputiclittleworm: see if that is what you need08:51
AirWaysYou need to have mysql-server installed if you want the MySQL08:51
zoddantiglionabbit: ?08:51
AirWayslol08:51
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underdogAirWays: you need to have postgres installed if you want postgresql08:52
zoddanim having some problem with ubuntu, when i have logged into Gnome and after everything is loaded it locks up08:52
zoddananyone have an ide ?08:52
littlewormhow do i start gnuplot after i've installed it?08:53
AirWaysERROR 2002: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) <- ERR?!?!?!08:53
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doggtype gnuplot in terminal08:53
doggyou have to start mysql08:53
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dogg/etc/init.d/mysqld start08:53
AirWayssudo: /etc/init.d/mysqld: command not found08:54
wdhAirWays, find a decent howto08:55
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danyhallo08:55
wdhhi dany08:55
underdogAirWays: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start08:55
littlewormis it a terminal app?08:55
PrediusAirWays, /etc/init.d/mysql start08:56
Prediuswithout the d08:56
thoreauputiclittleworm: man gnuplot08:57
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littlewormhavn't understand a thing :)08:57
underdoglittleworm: http://www.duke.edu/~hpgavin/gnuplot.html08:57
AirWays:E08:57
nayif???? ?????? ??? ??? ??? ????? ?? ??????08:57
underdoggoogle gnuplot tutorial, first link08:57
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amichaianyone here familiar with ati?09:00
nayifamichai, ask your q09:01
amichaii did everything accordingly i think and i still get no 3d accel? can someone help me plz?09:01
amichainayif, my fps is very low09:02
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nayifamichai, did u change the ati to glxrc09:02
amichainayif, yes09:02
gangaleeis there a GUI for services in Hoary, like RedHat?09:03
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nayifi read about that today09:03
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littlewormwdh: i'm looking for an app which i can draw geometrical forms in it, and maybe functions09:04
littlewormgnuplot is shity09:04
AirWaysWell, I want to install PostgreSQL, what is that package?09:04
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AirWayspostgresql-contrib - additional facilities for PostgreSQL09:04
AirWayspostgresql-plr - Procedural language interface between PostgreSQL and R09:04
AirWayspostgresql-plruby - Ruby procedural language for PostgreSQL09:04
AirWaysSome those?09:04
nayifamichai, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32870309:04
thoreauputiclittleworm: wow - you mastered gnuplot in the las t few minutes? Congratulations....09:05
Quest-MasterHindi and Urdu users-- #ubuntu-hi and #ubuntu-ur09:05
Quest-Master:)09:05
littlewormi take my words back09:05
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littlewormfinaly i understood how to open it normally09:06
Fator_Deethoreauputic: or he's afraid of the terminal!09:06
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Fator_Deethoreauputic: 'cause it'll eat your hd if you are not carefull! (true story)09:06
thoreauputic:)09:06
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AirWaysHow I can install PostgreSQL09:06
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littlewormit's very good, exactly what i needed09:07
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Frafrahi09:09
BrandonTurnerhello09:09
jeroen_Frafra, BrandonTurner, hi :)09:10
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BrandonTurneri never really used ubuntu until yesterday i put it on my server09:11
AirWaysHow I can install PostgreSQL09:11
BrandonTurnerand i think it is the best distro i have ever used09:11
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BrandonTurnerjust some feedback for the devs09:11
yeahwhoo-ohi all09:11
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yeahwhoo-ogot a problem, i've got a new mobo, becouse the other one broke down09:12
[koji] monodevelop 0.7-0ubuntu1~5.04ubp1 will install mozilla-browser why?09:12
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yeahwhoo-oi'm using ubuntu on a sata disk, the sata disk is connected to a sata card on pci09:12
yeahwhoo-oon my old motherboard, the card was in PCI slot 209:12
yeahwhoo-onow, it's in PCI slot 309:12
jeroen_[koji] , because it depends on it, I guess. Check the mono website. If it doesn't really need mozilla, inform ubuntu devs09:12
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yeahwhoo-oand i cant boot becouse it cant find my card in slot 2, is there a way to change the config?09:13
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jeroen_[koji] , better don't because it's an ubp package, which are not official09:13
jeroen_[koji] , contact jdong09:13
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[koji] jeroen_: yeah i am content with firefox09:13
abisenwhat is  a good svg editor in Linux09:13
KragenSitakerabisen:sodipodi, inkscape09:14
abisenKragenSitaker, given one choice which one will you pick09:14
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AirWaysHow I can install that fucking postgresql?!09:15
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Pop_pa_FrEaKwhat's a good kde based terminal ?09:16
Morten^Tofthmm, i have a strange problem09:16
jeroen_Pop_pa_FrEaK, konsole09:16
Pop_pa_FrEaKwith copy and paste09:16
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Morten^Toftwhen i write something in firefox the text "lags"09:16
jeroen_Pop_pa_FrEaK, maybe you need to press ctrl+shift+v to paste; that is the case in the gnome terminal09:17
Morten^Toftit's very annoying when writing emails from a webmail and such09:17
KragenSitakerabisen: i'm ignorant, but i've had success with sodipodi in the past, but inkscape looks nice09:17
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KragenSitakerMorten^Toft: yeah, i hate that too.  let me know if you figure it out09:17
Morten^ToftPop_pa_FrEaK, or shift-INS09:17
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Morten^ToftKragenSitaker, ok i will :)09:18
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shidohas anyone ever burned a CD image to a DVD , how do you make an iso from the dvd the cd is 700mb but the dvd is 4.7Gb how do you make the 700mb iso off the dvd?09:19
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thoreauputicAirWays: what's wrong with "sudo apt-get install postgresql "   ? the package exists...09:20
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bwlangshido: i don't know for sure (never done this)... i think you want to google for growfs09:20
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batma8hey everyone, i have my wirless working finally, and it is recognized at reboott..however 90 percent of the time it will only send outpackets and wont recieve any?09:21
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valentinomy ubuntu apt-get aint workin... if em using apt-get install xxx it was says E:Couldnt find package.. pls help me09:21
minteewhat's the kernel verison for Ubuntu 5.04 "The Hoary Hedgehog"09:21
batma8any ideas?09:21
yeahwhoo-ohi all09:21
yeahwhoo-ogot a problem, i've got a new mobo, becouse the other one broke down09:21
yeahwhoo-oi'm using ubuntu on a sata disk, the sata disk is connected to a sata card on pci09:21
yeahwhoo-oon my old motherboard, the card was in PCI slot 209:21
yeahwhoo-onow, it's in PCI slot 309:21
yeahwhoo-oand i cant boot becouse it cant find my card in slot 2, is there a way to change the config?09:21
yeahwhoo-opls help :(09:21
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AirWaysOh :D09:22
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jeroen_yeahwhoo-o, you could try a bootable CD09:22
thoreauputicAirWays: apt-cache search is your friend...09:22
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minteewhat's the kernel verison for Ubuntu 5.04 "The Hoary Hedgehog" 2.6 or 2.4?09:22
jeroen_mintee, 2.609:22
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bwlangyeahwhoo-o: the slot number should not matter...09:22
minteeoops09:22
minteejeroen_: Ok, thanks...  :D09:23
thoreauputicmintee: 2.6.10-5 or so09:23
cvtwhat package do i want to make my desktop look uber cool?09:23
yeahwhoo-obwlang, but it says it can't boot becouse it can't find a bootable card on cpi slot 0209:23
thoreauputiccvt: ubercoolpackage09:24
yeahwhoo-opci i mean09:24
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cvtah k09:24
cvtbrb09:24
thoreauputiccvt ;)09:24
minteethoreauputic: Yeah, i figured..  I'm lookgin for a good distro still using the 2.4.  Guess I'm just gonna stick with slackware09:24
Pop_pa_FrEaKhmmm sudo: gedit: command not found09:24
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thoreauputicPop_pa_FrEaK: ? It's the default gnome editor...09:24
batma8hey everyone, i have my wirless working finally, and it is recognized at reboott..however 90 percent of the time it will only send outpackets and wont recieve any?09:25
Pop_pa_FrEaKthoreauputic, is there a setup faq for kubuntu ?09:25
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yeahwhoo-oomg09:25
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thoreauputicoops09:25
wezzer-wow09:25
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goldfish;p;09:25
Fator_Dee*kaboom*09:25
jeroen_aargh09:25
jeroen_that scared me09:25
batma8wow09:25
minteewb everybody09:25
wezzer-that was quite fast09:25
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RiddellPop_pa_FrEaK: kubuntu.org documentation09:25
AirWaysWarning: pg_connect(): Unable to connect to PostgreSQL server: FATAL: IDENT authentication failed for user "petteri" in /home/petteri/http/users/airways/phpBB2/db/postgres7.php on line 7909:25
AirWaysphpBB : Critical Error09:25
AirWaysCould not connect to the database09:25
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teknoprepok this makes no sense whatsoever09:25
bwlangyeahwhoo-o: this is not a ubuntu issue... it's a hardware problem.  try to "reset pnp data" in your bios09:26
AirWaysIt says like that when i'm trying to install PhpBB09:26
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SeverePitscreenshot screenshots09:26
SeverePitshow me09:26
thoreauputicAirWays: it really sounds like you need to google for some howtos09:26
bwlangyeahwhoo-o: your card must be recognized by your bios before you can do anything09:26
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SigNagEhell everyone09:27
SigNagEo09:27
thoreauputicheaven, SigNagE09:27
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SigNagEcould someone be so kind as to tell me the main advantages and difadvantages of Ubuntu :)09:27
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thoreauputicSigNagE: it works09:27
hussamHi I need help. I get no sound from tvtime. I searched ubuntuforums.org. I found this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3867709:27
hussamcan somebody help?09:28
Fator_DeeSigNagE: well, it's easy to use and install, it's actively developed09:28
jeroen_SigNagE, disadvantages: it's hard to pronounce09:28
thoreauputicSigNagE: disadvantages: you need to set up multimedia09:28
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minteewould someone do me a huge favor and try to compile a module for me, using the 2.6.10 stock kernel, before i go thru the process of d/ling and installing ubuntu09:28
SigNagEhow do you mean set up multimedia?09:28
Fator_Deejeroen_: depends what is your native language :-p09:28
arkosare they some one who speaks french ?09:28
thoreauputic! restricted09:28
jeroen_Fator_Dee, yours is old-african?09:28
ubotumethinks restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats09:28
jeroen_ubotu, not completely true09:29
ubotujeroen_: I don't know09:29
thoreauputicSigNagE: see ubotu's UEL09:29
Fator_Deejeroen_: if the pronunciation is similar, it doesn't matter09:29
SigNagEUEL? (im a linux newbie looking for the right distro :P)09:29
thoreauputicjeroen_: he's only a young bot ;)09:29
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Pop_pa_FrEaKthinking I should of stuck with ubuntu as things are alot dofferent for setting up09:29
Pop_pa_FrEaKdifferent09:29
thoreauputicSigNagE: sorry I meant url - follow the link09:29
SigNagEok09:30
batma8anyone in here have any luck gettin wirless lans working?09:30
jeroen_thoreauputic, oh, I see now09:30
Fator_Deejeroen_: and no, I speak finnish09:30
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Pop_pa_FrEaKscrew it i'll go back to ubuntu and live with amarok in gnome09:31
SigNagEis it basically debian with a different name and regular updates?09:31
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SigNagEby regular i mean scheduled :P09:31
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Fator_DeeSigNagE: well, very crudely so09:31
SeverePithow do i get galaxa game on ubuntu?09:31
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thoreauputicSigNagE: it has a 6 month release cycle09:31
jeroen_SigNagE, sort of09:31
nayifhi09:31
b2sbatma8: I'm wireless right now :)09:31
Fator_DeeSigNagE: it is, but it is not :-)09:32
b2sSeverePit: search in synaptic, I know there is one09:32
minteeb2s: Uh, your cord is hanging out of your pants leg.. ;)09:32
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batma8b2s: wierdest damn thing09:32
thoreauputicSigNagE: during the 6 months, you get security updates and major bug fixes09:32
batma8it sends packets09:32
SeverePitkthx09:32
batma8but wont recieve09:32
b2sbatma8: type of adapter?09:32
HiBallI just installed & got "one or more packages failed to install" - how to tell which?09:32
thoreauputicSigNagE: each release is supported for 18 months09:32
batma8rlink09:33
SigNagEwell, all i wanna do is use the net and have a lot of little addons to help me customize the OS without having to code / keep me ammused (and graphics tools (the equiv to photoshop (gimp i think?)))09:33
neuneuarkos, #ubtuntu-fr09:33
batma8b2s: Rt250009:33
thoreauputicSigNagE: gimp is installed by default09:33
batma8i went thru a tutorial09:33
batma8and it works..09:33
SigNagEgd gd09:33
b2sbatma8: hmm, what sort of adapter is that?  is it supported by a native driver?  Mine uses ndiswrapper...09:33
batma8but then randomly..it wont work09:33
batma8i use ndiswrapper also09:33
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thoreauputicSigNagE: as is firefox09:34
SigNagEso would ubuntu meet my needs?09:34
thoreauputicSigNagE: definitely09:34
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jeroen_SigNagE, yep09:34
SigNagEis there something else that would do a better job?09:34
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batma8brb09:34
thoreauputicSigNagE: heh - we're a bit biased here :)09:34
jeroen_SigNagE, would we in #ubuntu now?09:34
b2sbatma8: ok, what version of ndiswrapper do you have?  I've found that several adapters (mostly broadcom) require a later version than is installed in hoary.09:34
SigNagElol09:34
minteecould someone, anyone tell me if this (http://download.qlogic.com/drivers/27588/qla4xxx-5.00.02.tar.gz) compiles cleanly with ubuntu-latest.09:34
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hussamcan somebody help me figure out why I can't get sound from tvtime?09:35
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SigNagEso the main disadvantage of ubuntu is......09:35
thoreauputicSigNagE: the community is great09:35
thoreauputicSigNagE: I think the main disadvantage is probably multimedia support - but the fixes are fairly easy09:35
b2sSigNagE: I would think ubuntu would be fine for your purposes.09:35
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thoreauputicSigNagE: the url I gave you from the bot tells you how09:36
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Fator_Deethoreauputic: but multimedia support isn't actually ubuntu's fault :-\09:36
SeverePiti wanna see a screenshot plz.09:36
thoreauputicFator_Dee: of course09:36
Fator_Deethoreauputic: or should I say canonicals fault09:36
nayifhow can i know if ssh start or not ? on redhat service sshd status how can i do that on ubuntu ?09:37
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Fator_Deenayif: ps -A | grep sshd09:38
Munkeycan someone help me with installing an app?09:38
nayifFator_Dee, thanks09:38
Fator_DeeMunkey: just ask09:38
Fator_Deenayif: no prob09:38
thoreauputicnayif: or if pgrep sshd return a number, it's running09:38
b2s... the only thing I'm missing in ubuntu is flash support (which I didn't have installed in windows either)... mainly because I'm running everything 64bit09:38
Fator_Deethoreauputic: gah, didn't know of that command :-p09:39
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thoreauputicFator_Dee: useful one :)09:39
minteedid anyone try compiling that module09:39
mintee?09:39
Fator_DeeI had to tell him to hack it out :-p09:39
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MunkeyI downloaded a .deb file, and its got 2 tar.gz files. how do i install it??09:40
xinudasus A8V softraid kubuntu works fine , tnx (k)ubuntu team09:40
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nayifthor|afk, thanks09:41
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Arafat_Hi all updated my hoary distro to breezy but x does not want to start anymore...09:41
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cspnicohiii09:41
AirWaysI have now installed phpbb2, where is it now, I mean all those files ?09:41
Arafat_I'm running it on a dell notebook with an ati x30009:41
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cspnicoi would like install thee icon from http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=13548 but it doesn t work09:42
saifhello all, i ordered hoary in march, but i still haven't gotten anything, did shipit stop shipping??? or what is the problem?09:42
olimar /msg NickServ IDENTIFY averroes09:42
olimarArafat is now known as Olimar ;)09:42
SigNagEso hows Mandriva?09:42
cspnicoolimar:<yo beautifull passwork09:42
olimarany help on this pls?09:42
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jeroen_SigNagE, it has rpm :/09:43
SigNagErpm?09:43
olimarcspnico yeah bad :/09:43
yahalomdamn ati drivers, i'm going to throw this box out of the windows09:43
cspnicolol09:43
jeroen_redhat package management09:43
SigNagEso it doesnt make a good OS?09:43
cspniconobody know about icons09:43
olimaryahalom do you also experience problems with breezy and ati GC?09:43
yahalomolimar, not using breezy09:44
jeroen_I *hate* rpm, but that's because of suse, I don't know about mandriva09:44
olimarwell hoary worked but breezy doesn't...09:44
olimarfor me at least...09:44
SigNagEwhat does redhat package management mean?09:44
cspnicothen how install icon?09:44
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SigNagElike a version of redhat?09:45
jeroen_it's a package manager which eh.. manages your packages09:45
kori[idiot] SigNagE, redhat's debs09:45
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b2sAirWays: dpkg -L phpbb209:45
SigNagEso it isnt an actual distro... its a manager for redhat?09:45
Fanskapetagh.. doesn't ndiswrapper support scanning??09:45
b2sFanskapet: it does for me09:46
jeroen_SigNagE, it manages the installation of software09:46
jorgp_anyone else having sound issues?09:46
Fanskapetb2s, well for me too but i read something about that in the forum.. regarding that gtkwifi gui09:46
kori[idiot] for a certain set of distro's09:46
Fanskapetit runs slow as hell and in the "device" field it says that my card doesn't support some features.. and i assume it's scanning09:46
Fanskapetsince the whole app runs damn slow.. maybe it tries to scan in the background or something.09:47
cspnico"Le chargement de l'image gnome-fs-directory a chou" >but the picture exist09:47
cspniconobody know?09:47
b2sscanning doesn't really require a lot of app support09:47
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lokcspnico: you paste a french message in a english channel ...09:47
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Fanskapetb2s if it's a good written app that is :)09:48
Fanskapetbut i assume that this app is bundled with alot of ugly-code" :D09:48
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b2sFanskapet: fair enough ;)  I always recommend people upgrade to ndiswrapper 1.1 anyway... works much better for me than the ndiswrapper in hoary09:48
cspnico lok:>exact09:48
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Fanskapetb2s well i use that RC1 one :)09:48
Fanskapetsince im on 64bit ubuntu09:49
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cspnico"the load of the picture: gnome-fs-directory failed" >but the picture exist09:49
cspnicowhy?09:49
b2sFanskapet: I'm on 64bit, and it wouldn't work at all until I got 1.1 from ndiswrapper.sf.net09:49
cspnicoand it seems that is it for all icons09:49
b2sFanskapet: there's a wiki for amd64 ubunto with ndiswrapper I helped write...09:49
lokb2s: if you use ndiswrapper on a 64bits think that the dll must be a 64bits one too09:49
Fanskapetb2s, yeah i know.. but i couldn't get the previus version to work.. so i downloaded the latest one.09:50
Fanskapetand that one did work :)09:50
b2sFanskapet: so what version are you using then?09:50
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Fanskapetb2s, ndiswrapper-1.2-rc109:51
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Fanskapetbut i haven't found a gui app that feels right for me yet.09:52
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nogfhi all09:53
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goldfishhello09:54
b2sFanskapet: yeah, gui sucks :) ...seriously though, what's wrong with the network tool that comes with ubuntu?  I guess it doesn't let you set up wpa if you need that09:54
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nogfum i don';t know  what kernel to chose in the install09:54
nogflinux-image-2.6.10-5-38609:54
nogfor linux-38609:54
nogfor linux-image-38609:55
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b2snogf: the shorter two are probably virtual packages that point at the longer one09:55
nogfubuntu says: "The list shows the available kernels. Please choose one of them in order to"09:55
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nogfb2s: ah09:56
nogfb2s: so just chose the longer one cause thats the one any way?09:56
b2snogf: just grab linux-386 and you should be fine09:56
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nogfoh09:56
nogfok09:57
nogfbs2: linux-386 it is09:57
b2swell, I just checked the actual package, and linux-386 also installs the "restricted" modules, which may be helpful09:57
nogf:D09:57
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nogfoh ok09:57
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nogfwhere can i see this informatoin?09:58
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_Church_Of_Foamyis it possible to install xp on the same hd after ubuntu is installed?09:58
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b2snogf: I ran: aptitude show linux-38609:58
kori[idiot] _Church_Of_Foamy, yes09:58
kori[idiot] but you have to reinstall grub after09:58
Fanskapetb2s, well i prefer a app in the tray that shows a baloon popup when a new network is around and that stuff.09:58
b2s_Church_Of_Foamy: I recommend installing xp first, but yes :)09:58
Fanskapetsince im a BeOS user09:59
_Church_Of_Foamyok09:59
kori[idiot] if you want to touch you linux09:59
kori[idiot] ever again...09:59
Fanskapetand therfore. a GUI whore :D09:59
_Church_Of_Foamyoh ok09:59
nogf_Church_Of_Foamy: its usually esayer the other way round tho09:59
b2sFanskapet: doesn't that already happen?  it works in mine09:59
_Church_Of_Foamyok09:59
dooglusinstalling XP 2nd will wipe out the boot loader, but you can add it back again afterwards, right?09:59
Fanskapetb2s nah not with the ordinary gui? or does it? it just shows the signal strength of the network you are connected too?09:59
b2sFanskapet: hmm, maybe.  I don't wander too much, so I'm not sure10:00
_Church_Of_Foamyi was thinking that i could create an xp partition on the same hd so that i could play this game10:00
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_Church_Of_Foamyit won't work in linux10:00
_Church_Of_Foamy:(10:00
thor|afk_Church_Of_Foamy: you can do that - but it's easiest if you have XP installed first and make free space for ubuntu10:01
_Church_Of_Foamyhmmm what about this?10:01
Fanskapetb2s, hmm you know what file to edit to get your mounted partitions to get them appear in the gnome "Computer" window ?10:01
thor|afk_Church_Of_Foamy: the grub bootloader will load either oS10:01
Fanskapettried to make a link in the /media/ folder even mounth them directly there.. but that didn't do the drick10:01
Fanskapettrick even :)10:01
_Church_Of_Foamyi keep ubuntu on 1 hd and put xp on the other hard drive10:01
_Church_Of_Foamyon the secondary ide channel?10:02
thoreauputic_Church_Of_Foamy: best to make XP primary10:02
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thoreauputic*primary10:02
_Church_Of_Foamyscrew xp lol10:02
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_Church_Of_Foamyi want ubuntu has pri10:02
b2sFanskapet: no, I don't know, I've wondered that though ;)10:02
_Church_Of_Foamyi'm gonna slave it to my cd rom10:02
thoreauputic_Church_Of_Foamy: XP won't boot easily from @ndary10:02
Fanskapetok :)10:03
thoreauputicsecondary10:03
_Church_Of_Foamynot even has secondary master?10:03
goldfishwindows gets angry when its not primary10:03
thoreauputic_Church_Of_Foamy: windows likes to think it is the only system in existence...10:03
_Church_Of_Foamyi got my ubuntu just the way i like it hate to have to redo it lol10:03
_Church_Of_Foamyyea well i got news for it it's not lol10:03
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zombicscan i run ubuntu i386 with an AMD 64 prossesor?10:04
zenroxno10:04
_Church_Of_Foamyso if i take out my ubuntu drive and put a hd in on the secondary ide channel and install xp10:04
thoreauputiczombics: yes10:05
_Church_Of_Foamythan put my ubuntu hd in and reconfig grub will it work?10:05
thoreauputiczenrox: yes, he can10:05
zenroxthoreauputic,  ya but it ant optimized for it10:05
zombicsthoreauputic, it will run just like any 32BIT prossesor right?10:05
thoreauputiczenrox: true, but it will still outperform a 386 system10:06
thoreauputiceasily10:06
_hp_which codec do i need for mplayer to play wmv?10:06
_Church_Of_Foamyso can that be done?10:06
thoreauputic_hp_: get w32codecs10:06
_Church_Of_Foamyor should i just scrap everthing and just start from scratch?10:06
thoreauputic_Church_Of_Foamy: swap your drives around and save yourself a lot of trouble10:07
_hp_thoreauputic: there is n osuch package10:07
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thoreauputic_hp_: erm, yes there is10:07
thoreauputic! restricted10:07
ubotumethinks restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats10:07
_Church_Of_Foamyso do the thing i wanted to do?10:07
thoreauputic_hp_: see that url10:07
_Church_Of_Foamyand just rebuild grub10:07
thoreauputic_Church_Of_Foamy: you've been told...10:08
_hp_thanks10:08
_Church_Of_Foamyok10:08
zoddanwhy is ubuntu saying "insert cd" ?10:08
Amaranthyou have the CD as one of your apt sources10:08
zoddani just want to download it not inserting a cd10:08
thoreauputiczoddan: because you haven't removed the CD from your sources list10:08
zoddanok10:08
Amaranthyou can remove it in synaptic10:08
zombics_Church_Of_Foamy, you can... you can even just set in the bios to bot from hda or hdb so you dont even need to reinstall grub. just make your bios boot your OS boot.10:09
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flodineis xfce 4.2.2 out for ubuntu10:10
crimsun_no, not yet10:10
crimsun_waiting for CXX transition10:11
flodinewhats that10:11
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crimsun_updating c++ libraries10:11
crimsun_(rather, updating them as necessary so they'll build with a new version of g++)10:11
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yonilI've downloaded a package with sudo, how can i check what files it installed ?10:12
flodineor new os10:12
yonillol i mean apt-get10:12
yonilwhen i said sudo X_X10:12
thoreauputicyonil: dpkg -l <packagename>10:12
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thoreauputicoops10:12
yonil?10:12
thoreauputicdpkg -L packagename10:12
thoreauputicupper case10:12
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yonilthanks10:13
dooglusmy sources.list file has 'archive.ubuntu.com' URLs in it, but I'm in Europe.  Shouldn't I have a european site instead of the .com one?10:13
crimsun_dooglus: CC.archive.ubuntu.com, where CC is the country code10:14
thoreauputicdooglus: is this warty or hoary? Hoary should give you your country code10:14
AirWaysHow I can get that Squirremails HTML login page?10:15
dooglusthoreauputic: this is hoary.  I told it my country when I installed, but it set my up using the .com address...10:15
dooglusthoreauputic: how should hoary give me my country code?  I'm not sure I follow you.10:16
thoreauputicdooglus: crimsun is right -  CC.archive.ubuntu.com, where CC is the country code10:16
thoreauputicdooglus: mine is au so au is prepended10:16
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thoreauputicdooglus: does that make sense?10:17
dooglusthoreauputic: sorry, I was away, hunting the slivovice10:18
dooglusthoreauputic: I understand.  but should hoary have put the 'cz.' in for me?  or am I expected to know that I have to put it there?10:18
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thoreauputicdooglus: my understanding is thet it should be put in for you10:19
thoreauputicdooglus: mine was put in automatically10:19
dooglusthoreauputic: that's strange then.10:19
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b2sdooglus: yes, cz.archive.ubuntu.com would be good, assuming cz is where you live...10:20
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thoreauputicdooglus: hmm - maybe there is no cz sever address, I don't know10:20
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thoreauputic*server10:20
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batma8why would a wireless adapter send but not recieve any packets10:20
dooglusoh dear.  lots of error messages, for example:10:21
dooglusErr http://cz.security.ubuntu.com hoary-security/multiverse Packages10:21
dooglus  Could not resolve cz.security.ubuntu.com10:21
medkitTo enable browsing in CUPS web-interface issue /usr/share/cups/enable_browsing (quoted from cupsd.conf)10:21
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dooglusGet:9 http://cz.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main Sources [175kB]  is fine.10:21
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medkitDid that, restarted CUPS, no browsing. Arhg10:21
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dooglusseems that security.ubuntu.com get redirected to archive.ubuntu.com anyway - so maybe I can use cz.archive.ubuntu.com instead of cz.security.ubuntu.com10:23
thoreauputicmedkit:  /etc/cups/cupsd-browsing.conf10:23
thoreauputic  I think10:23
thoreauputicmedkit: not on by default10:23
abisenis there a way i can define a shortcut to clean my desktop (hide all windows) i have a ibm laptop and i dont have any windows-specific metakeys10:23
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batma8anyone in here a pro at config with a wireless internet adapter?10:24
medkitthoreauputic, To *enable* browsing in CUPS web-interface issue /usr/share/cups/enable_browsing 1.10:24
zoddanwhat does M mean in kernel config ?10:25
doogluszoddan: Module10:25
gwmmodule?10:25
zoddanok10:25
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thoreauputicmedkit: perhaps I misunderstood you, sorry10:25
zoddanso whats the difference betwen M and * ?10:25
dooglusit means don't build it into the kernel, but leave it as a module which can be optionally loaded.10:25
zoddanwhats best ?10:25
thoreauputicmedkit: did you look at the file I mentioned, though?10:26
medkitthoreauputic, nevermind. Finally got my Router attached Canon printer working.10:26
doogluszoddan: some things you need to leave built in - if your boot partion is in reiserfs format, for instance, you'll need to make sure that reiserfs is built into the kernel.10:26
medkitthoreauputic, i did10:26
thoreauputicOK10:26
zoddandooglus: ok10:26
anatoleis there no way to show filenames with non-utf8 encoding correctly?10:26
doogluszoddan: I try to leave as much as possible as modules - it reduces the size of the kernel10:26
medkitthoreauputic, and for the life of me, it had to be a lpd printer. Took me hours to find that out. Case now closed.10:27
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thoreauputicI think I used an ipp address - it's been a while since I set my printer up10:28
medkitthoreauputic, tried that also. But any cups setting did not work.10:28
medkitthoreauputic, any cups ipp setting i mean10:29
thoreauputicI see10:29
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mello6do you guys think the backports are safe yet?10:32
lokyet ?10:32
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mello6yet.10:32
thoreauputicmello6: short answer: no10:32
thoreauputicIMHO10:32
mello6i was thinking about getting firefox 1.0.410:32
dooglusthoreauputic: what do you see if you run "grep hoary-security /etc/apt/sources.list" please?10:32
lokmello6: juste change the right string in about:plugins10:33
lokabout:config10:33
dooglusthoreauputic: because: "unknown host au.security.ubuntu.com"10:33
dooglusmello6: get the new firefox 1.1 alpha instead?10:33
thoreauputicdooglus: I get 4 lines10:33
dooglusthoreauputic: what are the hostnames?10:34
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thoreauputicdooglus: I can paste in #flood if you care to look10:34
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dooglusok.  i'll looking...10:34
mello6why the alpha?10:34
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mello6is that the nightly release's name?10:34
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svalhello, 've a linux system install on one WD raptor HDD. I will soon buy a new raptor and want to make RAID 0. Do i10:36
svalhello, 've a linux system install on one WD raptor HDD. I will soon buy a new raptor and want to make RAID 010:36
svalDo i10:36
svalDo i have to reinstall all the system ? or just configure my asus motherboard to use both hdd with raid0 ?10:37
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floater_Hi. My dev/dsp does not exist. I tried ./MAKEDEV audio with no success. I heard I could try modprobing or insmoding it. What commands should I go for ?10:40
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poliehi all10:43
stormgnuHow do i change my resulotion in the easiest way?10:43
polieany one got bluetooth to work on warty yet?10:44
WhiteRabbitctrl+alt+- or +10:44
kart_Main Menu-->System-->Prf.-->Screen Resolution10:44
stormgnuyes10:44
stormgnuI did that and this showed: Xlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0".10:44
stormgnuI followed a ATI driver guide and it everything went smoth but then this showed up :/10:45
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TribooNHi10:46
stormgnuAnyone know what it means?10:46
linuxboywhere can i find descriptions of the ubuntu repositories? ie main, universe etc etc10:46
polieanyone got bluetooth to work?10:46
TribooNDoes anyone know how to install graphics drivers (nvidia geforce2 gts)? i downloaded them but it doesn't work.10:47
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goldfishTribooN: did u follow the instuctions at ubuntuguide.or?10:48
goldfish*org10:48
poliedoes any one use bluetooth here10:49
TribooNi didn't just installed ubuntu 3 minutes ago10:49
TribooNi will do so10:49
stormgnuIm getting do damn tired of this... How can it be so damn hard to install a ATI driver and change the resolution?10:49
blueskiesokiei have just installed ubuntu . i had to change video cards from Ati to Nvidia. i did reconfigured xserver .. it is suppossed to be using 800x600. but it is only coming up 640x480 ?10:49
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glill32hello, i am someone that just installed ubuntu as an alternative to windows xp, a 63 year old retired police dispatcher, how are you all doing today?10:51
blueskiesokiethat's my problem too ? i can't get the resolution to actually change .. only set to use 800x600 and 1024x768 . but it is still only doing 640x480 ? and that is all that shows up in the screen resolution ..10:51
blueskiesokie?10:51
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dooglustry a traceroute on au.archive.ubuntu.com - it will go via the USA and back...10:51
uggwarmy newly built mono-utils 1.1.7 packages seems to lack the dh_netdeps scripts... have i done something wrong?10:52
ploddoing good glill32 u well10:52
plod?10:52
zoddanwhere is bootsplash in kernel config ?10:53
glill32Well, I just installed here, and I'm having some problems...10:53
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dooglusthere's a list of mirrors here: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Archive10:53
glill32I cannot get my monitors to act like they did under Windows XP.10:53
plodam just in suse on this machine but im sure somebody will be able to help ya ask away10:53
lokzoddan: there is no bootsplash option in the kernel unless you add it10:53
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wulfy814anyone install the zaptel drivers for the digum cards successfully?10:54
zoddanlok: dah10:54
thoreauputicdooglus: as bob2 said, it ends up at  ge-0-0.access8.lon2.mnet.net.uk via the US - funny !10:55
zoddanlok: im compaling10:55
zoddanlok: i need to know ehere it is so i can select it10:55
thoreauputicdooglus: so the au sever is in the UK - what a joke10:55
dooglusthoreauputic: so I'm going to use ubuntu.cz instead...  that doesn't go via several oceans...10:55
polieany one using warty in here>/10:55
wulfy814I have successfully compiled, and used apt to install10:55
thoreauputic*server10:55
lokzoddan: bootsplash isn't in the kernel10:55
loknot in normal kernel10:55
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dooglusthoreauputic: I guess you should pick a source from http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Archive10:55
lokthere's methode to add one10:55
thoreauputicdooglus: what *are* they thinking?10:56
thoreauputicdooglus: indeed10:56
lokand the simple way is to wait for the ubuntu splash in breezy10:56
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stormgnuok a very newbish question, after ive run the make_install.sh script on a program, what do i do?10:56
zoddanlok: ...10:56
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zoddanlok: im lookin for in the the config10:56
wulfy814however when I do modprobe zaptel, I get "FATAL: Module wctdm not found.10:56
wulfy814FATAL: Error running install command for wctdm10:56
dooglusstormgnu: as a newbie, are you sure you want to be running make_install.sh, and not just using synaptic to download and install a binary package?10:57
glill32I have two monitors connected to a "ATI Radeon 90000", dual head, one of them is a 36" CRT running at 800x600 at 60Hz, the other one is a 17" running 1280x1024. I just get mirrored screens running at 640x480 now.10:57
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lokzoddan: I understand that and there is no module for that in the kernel source take on kernelsource.org10:57
lokunless you add one10:57
lokin fact what you add is a jpeg or a png I don't know decompressor10:58
Fator_Deestormgnu: depends on what the make_install.sh script has already done10:59
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Cy|HyperGrrrr10:59
Fator_Deestormgnu: read the readme-file, perhaps there's some info10:59
Cy|HyperI got wireless somewhat working now10:59
Cy|HyperBut it cuts out after a few minutes10:59
Cy|HyperNetgear WG311 v2 wireless card10:59
glill32Should I switch back to Windows XP so that my monitors can work right, or does Ubuntu also have the capability i need and I just can't find it?11:00
plodati11:01
plodis a bugger11:01
plodto get working11:01
plodstill havent sorted it myself with my dual head 980011:01
Burgundaviaplod, seen wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto?11:01
glill32so I should just switch back to XP?11:01
Firetechglill32: threatening won't get you anywhere11:02
plodburgundavia will look glill32 thats good for u 211:02
icemanglill32 whats the issue with the monitor11:02
glill32Firetech: threatening? I'm just trying to figure out what I need to do to get things to work.11:02
Fator_Deeglill32: on the binarydriverhowto there's a tip on dual monitors11:03
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thoreauputicglill32: I think the remark was tongue in cheek :)11:03
Fator_Deeglill32: read the ati-section thoroughly11:03
glill32ok thanks, Fator_Dee.11:03
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Firetechglill32: Sorry, I came in the middle of the conversation... There are some trolls that use "so I should just switch back to XP?" as a try to get more answers...11:04
Cy|HyperCan anyone help?11:05
glill32ok, the ubuntu system looks very nice, and it has all the same programs my grandson showed me and I was already using on windows, so I would like to give it a try.11:05
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Fator_DeeFiretech: or trolls that use FULLCAPS or anything else to get attention because they are not patient enough11:05
poliecan any one help me with setting up bluetooth in warty?11:05
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Firetechglill32: Ignore my first lline, then.11:06
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WhiteDoveHello everyone :)11:06
FiretechFator_Dee: argh, don't remind me :P11:06
Cy|HyperAnyone able to help with wireless in Ubuntu?11:06
WhiteDoveCould someone help me, I have a BIG problem :(11:06
AirWaysWhy my squirrelmail says like this when I'm trying to login to it: Error connecting to IMAP server: localhost.11:06
AirWays111 : Connection refused11:06
WhiteDoveplease11:06
Fator_DeeWhiteDove: just ask11:07
thoreauputicCy|Hyper: you probably need to be more specific to get the help you need11:07
FiretechThe worst ones are them that come into a (small?) channel, asks a question, waits 30 seconds, gets angry because they don't get any answer, and then leave.11:07
WhiteDovewell you see, on my desktop (Im on my laptop at the mo) my gnome panels don't show up, they suddenly quit and won't come back :(11:07
poliedoes hoarty come with blue tooth ??11:07
glill32Okay, I am using the apt-get in the terminal screen to get the drivers, thanks guys.11:07
thoreauputicFiretech: not the worst - because at least they leave ;)11:07
Fator_DeeWhiteDove: open a terminal and write gnome-panel11:08
Cy|Hyperthoreau: I have a good connection, always, when I boot up. However, after about 20 minutes, the connection dies, and it can't be recovered.11:08
Cy|HyperJust dies11:08
glill32Is there a Media Center for Ubuntu like there was in Windows?11:08
Cy|HyperHave to reboot to get it to work again...11:08
WhiteDovecommand not found11:08
thoreauputicCy|Hyper: maybe if you said what card you use and other such info someone might know11:08
Cy|HyperNetgear WG311 v2 card11:08
Fator_DeeWhiteDove: are you sure you typed it correctly?11:08
WhiteDoveyes11:08
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Fator_Deeum...11:09
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Fator_Deethat... should be there11:09
WhiteDoveyeah, strange, isn't it11:09
zoddanhow long does it take to compile a kernel on a P3 500 ?11:09
Fator_DeeWhiteDove: write gnome<tab><tab> in terminal, does anything come out?11:09
linuksozoddan: 15 min11:10
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Fator_Deeanything at all?11:10
WhiteDoveyep11:10
zoddanlinukso: im on 10min now11:10
linuksozoddan: depends on how many  modules you have enabled11:10
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polieany have a hsf modem??11:10
Fator_Deeand when you press p<tab><tab> theres no panel option?11:10
kori[idiot] mm11:10
kori[idiot] guys11:10
kori[idiot] gaim-vv has a weird buffer bug11:10
kori[idiot] and there is a patch posted at the forums11:10
jasoncohenwith debian testing i can selectively install packages from unstable by setting my default distro as testing in apt.conf. Can i do the same in Ubuntu and install packages from breezy in hoary?11:10
kori[idiot] however, i cant seem to patch it11:11
WhiteDoveit says, display all 148 possibilities11:11
Burgundaviajasoncohen, yes11:11
glill32I cannot find the file referenced in the wiki-documents called "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4"11:11
kori[idiot] using the patch command gives me some errors and by hand ... well, im an c idiot11:11
kori[idiot] any ideas?11:11
Fator_Deejasoncohen: not advisable11:11
Burgundaviajasoncohen, ubuntu uses the exact same packaging system as Debian11:11
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Burgundaviajasoncohen, but not advisable11:11
thoreauputicjasoncohen: if you want to break your system, sure11:11
Fator_Deejasoncohen: breezy is *very* unstable right now11:11
jasoncohenwhy? sid isn't very unstable?11:11
polieany one have a hsf modem?11:11
Fator_Deejasoncohen: sid != breezy11:11
jasoncoheni know but they're quite similar11:12
Fator_Deebut they are not the same11:12
Fator_Deebreezy is very unstable right now, and that's the fact11:12
thoreauputicjasoncohen: breezy is still early in the release cycle and is broken in weird and wonderful ways11:12
jasoncohenthere are a few packages like gaim-otr that simply aren't in hoary and others like openvpn which are in universe and thus aren't updated for security11:12
WhiteDoveFactor_Dee: it says, display all 148 possibilities11:12
glill32hey, I am going to reboot!!!!!!!11:12
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Burgundaviajasoncohen, if there is a security fix in universe, you can ask for it to be backported11:13
Fator_DeeWhiteDove: if you can't find the gnome-panel -command, try to install it11:13
WhiteDovewtf11:14
WhiteDovewhy was it deleted11:14
WhiteDovegrrr11:14
Fator_DeeI don't know11:14
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WhiteDoveah well11:15
Fator_Deebut if it's not there, you should put it there :-p11:15
WhiteDoveyep11:15
WhiteDovewill it be like before?11:15
Fator_Deeit was there before?11:15
WhiteDoveyeah, I mean before it quit11:15
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Fator_Deeahhum... @_#11:15
TribooNi read the howTo install nvidia but i still can't change the resolution or frequency, any other help sites for me to read ?11:15
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WhiteDoveoh dear11:16
WhiteDoveits got a problem with the MixerApplet11:16
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WhiteDoveand the TrashApplet11:16
Fator_DeeTribooN: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and specify the resolutions and refresh rates that are within your monitors specs11:16
Fator_DeeWhiteDove: then kill them11:16
TribooNthanks alot11:16
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irinii have problems using ubunto....11:17
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WhiteDoveum, how do I get them back though?11:17
Fator_Deeirini: just ask about it11:17
WhiteDovesorry to be a pain in the ass11:17
WhiteDovelol11:17
Fator_DeeWhiteDove: right click on the panel11:17
iriniask about what?11:17
Fator_Deeand there's an add option11:17
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Fator_Deeirini: about your problem11:17
WhiteDoveyep11:17
glill32Okay, I installed the driver as specified on that page, and now it says that I can't even reconfigure my resolution, let alone add my second monitor, because of XrandR or something.11:17
irinii think linux is crap me i do lol...11:18
thoreauputicirini: tell us the nature of the problem?11:18
Fator_Deeirini: you don't have to use it11:18
WhiteDoveunfortinatly, neither are there anymore11:18
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glill32I can't even find the menu option to reconfigure my video display system. Help???11:18
irinii got it instuled (exuse my mistakes) but i dunno how to use it lol11:18
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iriniubuntu is kinda weird...i thinks lol11:19
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irinii find windows better me i do...11:19
falkarhi guys11:19
Fator_Deeirini: lol maybe you are lol too lol used to windows lol (turn your sarcasm detectors on :-p... lol)11:19
thoreauputicirini: umm - do you have something specific you want to ask about?11:19
poliedoes any one use bluetooth in here11:19
martyrhi guys, short question: i intend to buy a 320gb external usb2 hdd - will it work on ubuntu?11:20
iriniim not trying to be sarcastic lol...11:20
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WhiteDovemartyr: should do11:20
iriniits true....i dont like ubuntu11:20
Fator_Deeirini: lol, I am, lol11:20
kori[idiot] irini, you came in here to tell us that?11:20
iriniits weird....11:20
WhiteDovepolie: yes, for my mouse11:20
Fator_Deeok, this is enough on my part :-p11:20
irinii dont know.....lol11:20
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kori[idiot] well i know, lol.11:20
martyrWhiteDove: thanks, how sure's that? ;)11:21
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poliewhat version og ubuntu are u using?11:21
irinii dunno how to install kopete....11:21
iriniinstal*11:21
irinithere you go i found somthing to ask...lol11:21
Fator_Deeglill32: have you tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and then specify your monitors specs to it?11:21
Fator_Deeirini: sudo aptitude install kopete11:22
thoreauputicirini: sudo apt-get install kopete11:22
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thoreauputiceither11:22
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iriniwheres sudo aptitude? lol11:22
irinior where would i find it? lol11:22
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techiiuse apt-get11:22
Fator_Deeirini: right click on desktop -> open terminal11:22
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falkar!last11:22
ubotuwell, last is easier ;)11:22
Fator_Deeirini: then write the command there11:22
falkar:|11:22
glill32Fator_Dee: NO11:22
poliewhitedove:what version of ubuntu u use?11:23
jotaxmms don't work11:23
thoreauputicirini: lol.. you are really articulate lol lol11:23
irinithanks lol =P11:23
iriniwell im a girl what you expect...*blushes*11:23
Fator_Deeglill32: NO, as in you haven't tried it yet or NO as in it didn't work?11:23
jotawho get images of instalation11:23
thoreauputicirini: you have Van Gogh's ear for sarcasm11:23
irinilol11:23
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jotaalguien habla espaol11:24
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Fator_Deethoreauputic: didn't Van Gogh cut his own ear off? ;-)11:24
iriniit only says run application....???11:24
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glill32no, I didn't try it, I am trying it now.11:24
thoreauputicFator_Dee: very observant of you11:24
Fator_Deethoreauputic: thank you11:24
jotadeam11:24
thoreauputic;-)11:24
jotaargggg11:24
jotasomeone spaeak to me11:24
techiiirini: try "applications > System Tools > Terminal"11:25
Fator_Deethoreauputic: but I read some science paper on that women actually have more trouble in undestanding sarcasm than men do11:25
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glill32how do I go back in the x-org configuration?11:25
thoreauputicFator_Dee: assuming you believe irini is in fact a girl, of course11:25
irinipeople next time when i get a new computer do remind me never to instal ubuntu..!!!11:25
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techiiapplications being the menu, in the upper left corner of the screen (as per the default configuration)11:25
Fator_Deethoreauputic: well, we have a science paper to base the fact on :-D11:25
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thoreauputicirini: please go away - your troll is getting tiresome11:26
irinior linux or whatever its called...11:26
iriniwhy, its quite fun11:26
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glill32is there an ignore function in ubuntu's Gaim so I don't have to look at irini's words?11:26
techiidifferent oses for different people ...11:26
thoreauputicAmaranth: ops?11:26
irinilol11:26
Fator_Deeglill32: I don't think you do? but the changes wont come to effect untill you restart X11:26
iriniok ok im going11:26
irinibye bye....11:26
Fator_Deeglill32: so you can just write the line again11:27
glill32Okay.11:27
glill32I will just re-run the deal.11:27
Fator_Deeglill32: /ignore nick11:27
MalsideusSpeaking of whitch I'm trying to switch... long time win32, problem installing Ubuntu.11:27
Fator_Deeglill32: or /help ignore to maybe get more help on the ignore command11:27
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thoreauputicirini: the command you are so desperately trying to remamber is /part11:28
iriniwhat11:28
MalsideusDefault install, loads past grub11:28
glill32can I tell the configuration to install all of the X.org server modules, or should I leave some out?11:28
Fator_Deehmm, should I watch some videos or try to help in here in order to clean my mind for the next days chemistry exams :-\11:28
MalsideusThen get blank screen of death.11:28
bkinmanSo. I want a graphical WYSIWYG HTML editor.... what should i use?11:28
Pop_pa_FrEaKirini, must be a winblows (ppl too ignorant and non technical to learn something new and are brain washed by Bill Gates)  user11:28
EudoxusHello. I just installed Ubuntu but the X doesn't work. Why, oh why? May it be because I deselected all resolutions in the Ubuntu setup? Shouldn't be, because they said there that it X would still try the highest possible resolution! :S11:28
thoreauputicbkinman: nvu or mozilla composer11:28
irinihmm...rude11:29
MalsideusAmilo A laptop, allready googled lots. Any clues?11:29
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kori[idiot] bkinman, still, dont use wysiwyg editors...11:29
Fator_DeeMalsideus: what is the problem?11:29
glill32A new question, it's asking me to enter an identification for my monitor... but I have two monitors.11:29
novaflarenot half as rude as you are irini you little putz11:29
iriniim rude?11:29
irinii never did anything...11:29
Pop_pa_FrEaKirini, you can dish it but can't take it huh ?11:29
irinii never did anything though...11:30
novaflarecourse he cant trolls never can11:30
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bkinmankori[idiot] , im a web developer. =), but sometimes, editors are a necisary evil.11:30
Pop_pa_FrEaKyour being a troll11:30
glill32OKAY, I am restarting now!!!11:30
Fator_DeeMalsideus: http://www.ee.oulu.fi/~iiska/articles/ubuntu_in_a7620.html this is an article written by my brother, maybe there's some info you can use?11:30
thoreauputicirini: it's generally considered rude to enter a channel and tell everyone how you dislike their distro11:30
techiiirini: people try to start arguments, by spaming the channel11:30
MalsideusPop_pa_FrEaK: I'm a windows user. also a linux user, both good for when I need them, pls don't stereotype.11:30
linuksoplease ignore trolls11:30
novaflareive learned more about linux in less than 2 weeks useing ubuntu than i did in 6 months on crappy ass redhat11:31
runedudetrolls?11:31
Pop_pa_FrEaKMalsideus, I'm sorry and take back the comment11:31
MalsideusFator_Dee: Thanks will check it out$11:31
WhiteDovedo you think Microsoft are getting scared though, they seem to be doing alot more advertising11:31
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novaflaremostly thanks to those in here11:31
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svmarishi11:31
runedudeI have to ask -- whats a troll?11:31
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Pop_pa_FrEaKyes novaflare this channel is very helpful11:31
novaflarena ms dont got much to fear from linux diffrent type of users11:31
glill32OKAY! I am half the way there, thanks!!!!11:31
Fator_DeeWhiteDove: but the money in advertising doesn't help when the actual product has problems :-)11:31
novaflareand im glad they dont11:31
kori[idiot] bkinman, but why why wysiwyg....11:31
techiia troll is someone who tries to annoy everyone else11:32
novaflareif linux had to compeat with ms it would probably end up ruined11:32
linuksohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll11:32
EudoxusWHat is the app called that configures X?11:32
Eudoxusthat makes the X config file?11:32
Pop_pa_FrEaKxorg11:32
MalsideusPop_pa_FrEaK: np. I'm the master of sweeping statements myself11:32
bkinmankori[idiot] , tables. i hate tables, also, sometimes i have to edit sites that were created entirely in WYSIWYG editors, and those are no fun to edit by hand.11:32
Fator_Deebkinman: www.w3schools.com those tutorials are of *great* help11:32
kori[idiot] kreepy:D11:32
kori[idiot] tell them about css:)11:32
glill32Fator_Dee: my main monitor is working now, I need to figure out how to enable the other one!11:32
EudoxusThis channel is the most crappy channel I've seen in a long time.11:33
novaflareheh glill32 when you figure it out please tell me to :)11:33
bkinmankori[idiot] , lol. i dont do any telling to the other developers, i just take the work where i can get it.11:33
WhiteDoveI was wondering could someone help me with my wireless card please11:33
EudoxusUsers whining, calling each other rude. What a channel.11:33
BurgundaviaEudoxus, if you have nothing useful to say, please leave11:33
Fator_Deeglill32: did you install that fglrx-control package that was mentioned?11:33
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glill32Yes, I think so.11:33
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glill32I can't find it in the menus.11:33
bkinmanglill32, im having the same problem... =)11:34
Fator_Deeglill32: try to execute it from the terminal11:34
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Pop_pa_FrEaKanyone been able to view videos off of launch.com ?11:34
bkinmanI cant for the life of me get the other monitor to work with my fglrx drivers.11:34
Fator_Deebut there has been a lot of trolls and spammer in here today, so the people can be a little edgy in here11:34
WhiteDoveI was wondering could someone help me with my wireless card please11:34
Pop_pa_FrEaKFator_Dee, that happens when you get to the top of the heap as a distro11:35
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Fator_DeePop_pa_FrEaK: might be11:35
linuksoWhiteDove: What is your problem?11:35
Pop_pa_FrEaKWhiteDove, I would if I had a wireless card11:35
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Fator_DeeWhiteDove: it helps if you tell what card do you have etc, give as much info as you can11:35
bkseahello11:35
WhiteDoveokay11:35
linuksobksea: hoy!11:35
glill32if I have a mouse with a scroll wheel, should I emulate three buttons, or is the scroll click thing also the third button?11:35
WhiteDoveI'll do a lspci11:35
thoreauputictechii: it varies from hour to hour: there have been a few trolls recently11:36
Fator_Deeglill32: scroll is third mouse button11:36
glill32COOL11:36
WhiteDove0000:02:00.0 Network controller: RaLink Ralink RT2500 802.11 Cardbus Reference Card (rev 01)11:36
ablyssif it werent for xfce.. i doubt I'd be using ubuntu.. sadly to say11:36
Pop_pa_FrEaKglill32, my scroll mouse setup automaticly11:36
WhiteDoveBelkin G 54MB/s11:36
bkseaI am having trouble viewing the contents on my windows hard drive11:36
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Fator_Deeablyss: but were happy because we have options :-)11:36
ablyssthen again.. I haven't tried the KDE version of ubuntu11:36
jasoncohenwhy is ubuntu's main so small compared with debian's main? This means that there are many packages which simply don't get security fixes like mysql 4.111:37
Pop_pa_FrEaKablyss, you'd be happier in gnome11:37
thoreauputicablyss: Kubuntu is quite impressive - I personally use fluxbox mostly though11:37
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bkseaI have followed the instructions and edited my fstab, but still cannot access my files11:37
Pop_pa_FrEaKjasoncohen, you need to ewnable repositories11:37
Pop_pa_FrEaKenable*11:37
glill32how do I know which screen is which, 0 or 1?11:37
jasoncohenPop_pa_FrEaK, that's not what i mean. I know i can et mysql 4.1 but it's in universe which doesn't get security updates11:37
Fator_Deeglill32: your main screen is 011:37
novaflarei use fxce my self11:38
Fator_Deeglill32: atleast that's my guess11:38
ablyssthoreauputic, thanks for the info11:38
novaflaretried enlightenment11:38
novaflarecant get it to a res i like11:38
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syndubuntu just made me some money : X11:38
bkseacan anyone help me with a problem?11:38
WhiteDoveMy Wireless Card: 0000:02:00.0 Network controller: RaLink Ralink RT2500 802.11 Cardbus Reference Card (rev 01) Belkin G 54MB/s11:38
thoreauputicablyss: you can get it with "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" if you wish11:38
novaflaredoh how you pull that off synd?11:38
Pop_pa_FrEaKsynd how'd you pull that off ?11:38
Pop_pa_FrEaKlol novaflare11:38
novaflareand you know you must share all money made with ev one useing  ubuntu right :p11:39
linuksoWhiteDove: ok, but what is the problem?11:39
linuksobksea: post your fstab at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com11:39
ablyssthoreauputic, i've installed kde-core files and have the KDE window manager working.. but will install kubuntu-desktop be better?11:39
Pop_pa_FrEaKyes ablyss11:40
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thoreauputicablyss: It's a meta-package that gets you the equivalent of Kubuntu I believe (that's what I installed anyway)11:40
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Pop_pa_FrEaKsudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:40
ablyssokay11:40
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syndnovaflare, Pop_pa_FrEaK: well, i showed my exgirlfriend how i resurrected this old PIII 600Mhz 128MB 10GB DVD laptop with Ubuntu and showed her how things are easier with Linux and Ubuntu and told her about all the advantages (no virus, adware, spyware, etc) and she was like can I have that laptop since you already have lke 5 computers?11:41
novaflareid install kde but am a bit fearful11:41
glill32Do I want to synchronize my buffer swaps with the vertical sync signal?11:41
syndnovaflare, Pop_pa_FrEaK: and i was like well, ill trade you it for your Dell tower11:41
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Fator_Deesynd: good for you :-)11:41
Pop_pa_FrEaKdell tower!! are you nuts I'd of taken the money11:41
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syndnovaflare, Pop_pa_FrEaK: and she was like well Im really really fed up with this Dell and I would like to have a laptop11:42
novaflareheheh11:42
novaflarebrb new session to check out fluxbox11:42
Pop_pa_FrEaKok novaflare11:42
syndPop_pa_FrEaK, i know, but its a P4 2.8GHZ 80GB 512MB DDR11:42
thoreauputicsynd: nice trade :)11:42
syndwith a 17" flat screen11:43
Pop_pa_FrEaKyea really nice trade11:43
Fator_Dee:-p11:43
Fator_Deeunfair11:43
Pop_pa_FrEaKyou getting any nookie out of it too ?11:43
syndi was like.. well i can put Ubuntu you your tower!11:43
glill32this utility is saying that it wants to write the configuration to '/etc/X11/XF86Config-4' is that correct?11:43
syndand she was like.. noo i hate the tower11:43
Fator_Deeglill32: are you using hoary or warty?11:43
syndso i showed her some similar laptops on eBay for like 3-400$11:43
syndand she was like, no i want yours11:43
glill32I am using 5.04 I think.11:43
jindIs this a help channel or do I have to ask elsewhere?11:44
glill32Hoary.11:44
glill32is that the best one?11:44
Fator_Deeglill32: then it should be /etc/X11/xorg.conf, I don't know why it suggest that though11:44
thoreauputicglill32: cat /etc/issue11:44
syndPop_pa_FrEaK, i get a lil outta her every now and then. my new girlfriend might put a stop to that :x11:44
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linuksojind: it is, just ask :)11:44
jindNice11:44
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glill32Is there a way I can reload this new X configuration file without rebooting the whole computer?11:45
syndctrl alt backspce glill3211:45
syndthat restarts X11:45
Fator_Deeyep11:45
glill32okay, well hopefully I will see you all soon!!!!!!!!!!11:45
syndlol.11:46
Fator_Deelet us hope so :-o11:46
Pop_pa_FrEaKlol synd11:46
jindI have a laptop with dual intel 855GME screenchips. I want to use one for the laptop screen and one for a external monitor connected to vga-out with xinerama? Where can I find information how to do this?11:46
bkinmanthere any spotlight goodness for linux?11:46
novaflarehmm11:46
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novaflarecant see how to configure screen res11:46
novaflaresame problem i had with enightenment11:46
Fator_Deenovaflare: ctrl++ ?11:47
novaflarethats temp only11:47
novaflareand still dont help much11:47
loknovaflare: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:47
Fator_Deethat then11:47
bkinmanI want something like spotlight for linux11:47
Fator_Deewith sudo (of course)11:47
novaflareim running fglx drivers11:47
Fator_Deebkinman: what is that?11:47
loknovaflare: and ?11:48
Fator_Deenovaflare: you can use that11:48
novaflarek brb11:48
Fator_Deenovaflare: that command that lok told11:48
lokjuste think to use fglrx driver11:48
Fator_Deemaybe I should try to get my nvidia drivers to work :-\11:49
MalsideusFator_Dee: Checked out the site but It's not what I need (different specs, different problem). I had the same problem before but it was fixed by a mate.11:49
Fator_DeeMalsideus: :-(11:49
lokMalsideus: what's your problem?11:49
linuksojind: take a look at the ubuntu wiki (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki)11:49
novaflarek im at the point where its asking about dual head11:49
novaflareis there any possible way to auto configure dual head?11:49
loknovaflare: sorry I don't know11:50
Fator_Deenovaflare: I think it's not hard to do it by yourself11:50
jindlinukso, alright. I am currently looking there already :-)11:50
loknever used a dual head11:50
Fator_Deenovaflare: others have done that before11:50
linuksoread the xinerame guide11:50
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lokxinerama*11:50
glill32that did NOT WORK, by the way.11:51
Fator_Dee:-\11:51
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novaflareshould i use kernal framebuffer or let hard ware handle it?11:51
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glill32It said a bunch of stuff, the most relevant of which I think is, "No screens found" or something.11:51
linuksojind: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XineramaMultipleMonitors11:51
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walidhallo11:51
walidevery body11:51
MalsideusOk load into grub. Everything loads [ ok ]  then black screen.11:52
glill32If I knew enough about my video components, I could manually write my x.org configuration file, couldn't I?11:52
walidi just installed ubuntu11:52
syndwalid, congrats11:52
walidwith persian languge11:52
walidbut11:52
syndouch11:52
waliduya11:52
thoreauputicglill32: more or less11:52
walidbut the leters dontd work11:53
lokglill32: have you already try the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?11:53
glill32yes.11:53
MalsideusEscape sequences? cntrl alt bkspc doesn't work.11:53
glill32That got one monitor working fine.11:53
walidno11:53
glill32Then, I tried the control thing for that other driver to try to enable the other monitor, and it broke everything.11:53
glill32so now I think I'm in safe mode.11:53
MalsideusA11:53
syndglill32, ctrl+alt+backspace restarts X11:53
walidbut can any one help me11:53
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syndglill32, i was unaware of what you were trying to do.11:53
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glill32I am trying to do something that took me about 20 seconds in windowsxp: I have two monitors. One is a 36" CRT that runs at 800x600 60Hz. The other is a normal 17" CRT I like to run at 1280x1024. They are both connected to a Radeon 9000.11:54
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novaflarewill fglx use 16 bit color ( i prefer it if possible)11:55
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syndglill32, are you trying to span your desktop across both screens?11:55
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ablysson my AMD XP 2500 ubuntu runs really nice11:55
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glill32synd: I'd like it to work more or less like it did in Windows XP.11:55
jindlinukso, Thanks. I have it in the background now. And I will come to it if the page I am currently on doesnt help me out. Thanks! :-)11:56
MalsideusOk so I've got a black screen, any idea of an escape sequence that might give me something? (p.s. I'm a noob to linux)11:56
syndglill32, and that is? im unaware of how your desktop worked with WinXP.11:56
glill32I had my secondary screen off to the side, and I could drag apps onto it if I wanted, or I could put winamp full screen and watch videos on it while I worked on my main screen.11:56
novaflareMalsideus, try logging in blind once if you have sound wait for the bonk sound and type your username enter pass enter11:56
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zoddandrivers/media/video/saa7134/sa7134-dvb.c: In function `dvb_init:11:57
zoddanto few arguments to function11:57
novaflareleast you can test your drivers that way11:57
zoddanvideo_dvb_register11:57
zoddanmake *** [drivers]  Error 211:57
novaflareany how does fglx drivers support 16 bit color on ati cards???11:57
TycheAnyone heard of this? Failed to load any MDB driver11:57
syndglill32, yes. the term for that action is "spanning" a desktop across two screens. I currently have my iBook spanned between its LCD and a 17" CRT.11:57
WhiteDovewell, I got to go now peeps, see you'll tommorow11:58
Malsideusnovaflare: no Bonk : (11:58
glill32Would that prevent me from putting something full-screen on just one of the monitors, like a video playback application?11:58
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apollo2011I am trying to use Azureus but it doesn't seem to find Java.  I believe kynpatic had installed it but I also just installed it from the java self extracting file.  How do I get Azureus to see it?11:58
novaflarewait like 30 secounds and try Malsideus11:58
ys76glill32: You are searching for xinerama or something like that! Don't blame Linux if it does not work out of the box, bame the HW manufacturer11:58
novaflareand i guess ill use 24 bit :\11:58
glill32I'm not looking to blame anybody, really...11:58
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novaflarebrb to test this11:59
ablyssum, what display manager do you all recommend, gdm or kdm ?11:59
Malsideusnovaflare: still no bonk ;(11:59
jaysunnDo they have a open office  beta release for ubuntu?11:59
syndablyss, ?11:59
jaysunn2.011:59
thoreauputicglill32: linux people get touchy sometimes when they hear "It worked easily in XP ! " *grin*11:59
ys76ablyss: Try both and decide on your personal taste11:59
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syndthoreauputic, I sure do11:59
glill32Well, the fact is, that it did. I love how ubuntu looks, and I like the ideas behind it...12:00
ablyssys76, easy okay thanks12:00

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