| \sh | genubuntu -> world compile with -O99 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -sse -mmx -sse99 | 12:03 |
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| ajmitch | \sh: what, no -ffast-math -sse3 ? :) | 12:03 |
| \sh | oh thx i forgot ;) | 12:03 |
| dholbach | siretart: this is funny: doko maintains the package, keybuk "fixed it" and you uploaded it :) | 12:04 |
| dholbach | THAT's collaboration | 12:04 |
| ajmitch | dholbach: well MOM fixed it, really :) | 12:04 |
| dholbach | ajmitch: and that's not even appropriate :) | 12:05 |
| siretart | dholbach: did I do something wrong? (just want do be sure that I didn't do something really stupid) | 12:05 |
| dholbach | siretart: perfectly alright | 12:06 |
| ajmitch | hopefully not.. as long as you followed the report | 12:06 |
| siretart | puh! | 12:06 |
| ajmitch | sometimes you have to build with -sa, other times not | 12:06 |
| siretart | I was irritiated that I didn't get any mail | 12:06 |
| dholbach | ajmitch: just when you have new upstream version | 12:07 |
| ajmitch | yep | 12:08 |
| ajmitch | I've got a stack of merges to get back to, I think :) | 12:08 |
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| tseng | hi | 12:08 |
| ajmitch | hello tseng | 12:09 |
| \sh | ubuntu debootstrap can do also a debian unstable chroot? | 12:09 |
| elmo | yes | 12:10 |
| \sh | good...so i can prepare some new packages for debian, ajmitch can review and sponsor an upload ,-) | 12:10 |
| \sh | so we can resync them into ubuntu ;) | 12:10 |
| ajmitch | I can try & get them in - wait until sarge is released & etch is open | 12:11 |
| ajmitch | otherwise I'd probably get smacked by debian people ;) | 12:11 |
| dholbach | :) | 12:11 |
| tseng | meebey got mono in :) | 12:11 |
| ajmitch | experimental or sid? | 12:11 |
| tseng | sid | 12:11 |
| siretart | sid | 12:12 |
| siretart | :) | 12:12 |
| ajmitch | right, there wouldn't have been NEW processing then | 12:12 |
| \sh | argl | 12:12 |
| \sh | findlib is not build | 12:12 |
| \sh | fck | 12:12 |
| ajmitch | ftpmasters would possibly ignore my upload until post-sarge anyway | 12:12 |
| siretart | ajmitch: do you think this weekend is still realistic? ;) | 12:13 |
| \sh | Purging configuration files for xorg-common ... | 12:13 |
| \sh | Removing any system startup links for /etc/init.d/xorg-common ... | 12:13 |
| \sh | /etc/rcS.d/S70xorg-common | 12:13 |
| tseng | hrm well mono wasnt in sarge | 12:13 |
| \sh | dpkg - warning: while removing xorg-common, directory `/usr/X11R6/lib/X11' not empty so not removed. | 12:13 |
| tseng | so it might not be frozen | 12:13 |
| siretart | well, ok, thats highly offtopic here in this context.. | 12:14 |
| dholbach | ajmitch: do you read debian-devel? | 12:15 |
| ajmitch | dholbach: sometimes.. | 12:15 |
| tseng | siretart: debian development is off topic here? | 12:15 |
| dholbach | the thread that was kicked off about wifi-radar in ubuntu was very interesting | 12:16 |
| ajmitch | usuually just debian-devel-announce | 12:16 |
| dholbach | "Is Ubuntu a fork" or something | 12:16 |
| ajmitch | the fun threads | 12:16 |
| dholbach | there were much less anti-ubuntu sentiments than i expected | 12:16 |
| plugwash | from what i can gather ubuntu is less of a fork and more of an alternate release process | 12:17 |
| dholbach | once we got teams cracking on stuff, we should announce them on debian-devel as well | 12:17 |
| ajmitch | I resort mostly to gmane now for reading the lists | 12:17 |
| dholbach | i subscribed to it | 12:18 |
| dholbach | since this thread was really exciting | 12:18 |
| siretart | plugwash: and a completly different development process | 12:18 |
| dholbach | for the debian-ubuntu future :) | 12:18 |
| siretart | dholbach: absolutly! | 12:18 |
| dholbach | i really think we should sink our teeth in there to make sure history is to be made :) | 12:18 |
| ajmitch | certainly | 12:19 |
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| ajmitch | haha | 12:19 |
| ajmitch | "It's a spoon." | 12:19 |
| \sh | "there is no spoon" ;) | 12:20 |
| siretart | lol | 12:20 |
| tseng | i dont think the rest of you really work like I do | 12:20 |
| ajmitch | tseng: no, we're not nearly as 1337 as you | 12:20 |
| tseng | i spend more time communicating with debian and upstream then I do touching packages | 12:20 |
| ajmitch | we don't do so much packaging of new stuff | 12:20 |
| \sh | tseng: thx for ur effords ;) | 12:20 |
| tseng | im not going to force that on anyone | 12:20 |
| tseng | but.. i think its a good idea | 12:20 |
| ajmitch | different things are needed in different areas | 12:21 |
| dholbach | it absolutely is | 12:21 |
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| tseng | i mean i wouldnt expect dholbach to do it the same as me | 12:21 |
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| tseng | he touches every package he can find | 12:21 |
| dholbach | not really | 12:21 |
| \sh | grmpfumasdasjdh | 12:21 |
| tseng | but if you work in a specific area.. | 12:21 |
| dholbach | yeah... TEAMS! | 12:21 |
| tseng | yes | 12:21 |
| dholbach | atm i just touch my thesis stuff... :/ | 12:22 |
| tseng | the gnome motu team should be best friends with debian gnome | 12:22 |
| tseng | and gnome.org | 12:22 |
| dholbach | yeah | 12:22 |
| ajmitch | seb does gnome packages for debian, too | 12:22 |
| tseng | yes | 12:22 |
| dholbach | i'll be off to bed now | 12:22 |
| ajmitch | so he's been the main contact for both, I think | 12:22 |
| ajmitch | night dholbach | 12:22 |
| dholbach | good night | 12:22 |
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| ogra | \sh, use some real chat software.... | 12:22 |
| ajmitch | but one thing that is consistently raised is that we have to feed bugs back to debian | 12:22 |
| \sh | ogra: i don't use gaim ;) | 12:23 |
| ogra | \sh, Konversation terminates all the time | 12:23 |
| \sh | gaim is for college girls | 12:23 |
| ogra | take xchat | 12:23 |
| tseng | ogra: remind me why we have this patch in tomboy? | 12:23 |
| \sh | no :) i just hit some buttons while i was writing | 12:23 |
| tseng | ogra: dajobe doesnt like it. | 12:23 |
| ogra | \sh, so you dont want to meet college girls ? | 12:23 |
| ogra | tseng, which one ? | 12:23 |
| \sh | ogra: too young...too loud for an old fart like me | 12:24 |
| tseng | ogra: you added a patch | 12:24 |
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| ogra | feel free to drop it | 12:24 |
| tseng | where is the patches page? | 12:25 |
| \sh | *note* i have to send a patch to debian and upstream for arkrpg */note* | 12:25 |
| tseng | thats where he found it | 12:25 |
| ogra | tseng, ??? | 12:26 |
| \sh | ok gentlemen | 12:26 |
| ogra | tseng, which patches page ? | 12:26 |
| tseng | the one where we diff w/ debian | 12:26 |
| tseng | and give patches | 12:26 |
| \sh | don't fix breezy :) | 12:26 |
| ogra | MOM ? | 12:26 |
| ogra | hmm | 12:26 |
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| tseng | http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/patches/tomboy/ | 12:26 |
| tseng | this. | 12:26 |
| tseng | http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/patches/tomboy/tomboy_0.3.2-4ubuntu5_unknown.patch | 12:27 |
| ajmitch_ | sigh, irssi, doesn't want to play nice again today :) | 12:27 |
| tseng | and that :) | 12:27 |
| tseng | is the patch in question | 12:27 |
| Nafallo | *unknown.patch ;-) | 12:28 |
| \sh | chmod 0000 *hidden.patch ;) | 12:28 |
| \sh | night all :) | 12:28 |
| ogra | tseng, because it didnt work without the patch | 12:29 |
| tseng | can you explain breifly what it actually does? | 12:29 |
| ogra | tseng, revert it | 12:29 |
| tseng | heh i wont revert it if it doesnt work w/o it | 12:29 |
| tseng | i just need to justify it to dajobe before he merges it in debian | 12:29 |
| ogra | tseng, tomboy didnt start with an error that m is not defined | 12:29 |
| ogra | in the line in question | 12:29 |
| tseng | oh. | 12:30 |
| Nafallo | *proper.patch :-) | 12:30 |
| Nafallo | baah. to much p2p for me :-P | 12:30 |
| ogra | tseng, and the line if (q == null) { somehow implied that it should be } else if (q != null) { | 12:30 |
| tseng | it should just be else | 12:31 |
| tseng | i imagine | 12:31 |
| ogra | it was a shot in the dark that worked, i'm not after keeping it if its wrong :) | 12:31 |
| ogra | yeah, else is the right way | 12:32 |
| ajmitch_ | I'd assume that is it was if (q==null) then the second if being q would be redundant | 12:32 |
| tseng | yes | 12:32 |
| ogra | yop | 12:33 |
| tseng | ill confirm the bug again | 12:33 |
| tseng | and then try to fix it with an else | 12:33 |
| ogra | it was at some inhuman hour in the morning when i made the patch | 12:33 |
| ajmitch_ | caffiene underdose? | 12:34 |
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| tseng | was it only failing on amd64? | 12:34 |
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| tseng | arg ill look at it later | 12:37 |
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| ogra | tseng, ^^^^ | 12:39 |
| ogra | tseng, tomboy didnt start with an error that m is not defined | 12:39 |
| ajmitch | but m is referenced on the next line? | 12:39 |
| ogra | thats not amd64 spwcific | 12:39 |
| ogra | yep | 12:40 |
| tseng | yeah.. | 12:41 |
| tseng | he probably didnt see it on mono 1. | 12:41 |
| tseng | 1.0 | 12:41 |
| tseng | i dunno | 12:41 |
| ogra | else is just the right fix | 12:41 |
| tseng | no it needs to check for m | 12:41 |
| tseng | because it calls m next line | 12:42 |
| tseng | yes? | 12:42 |
| ogra | it doesnt in my patch... | 12:42 |
| tseng | how can m fail to be !null | 12:42 |
| tseng | and then get an object reference in the next line | 12:42 |
| ogra | but works with my patch... which is redundant... | 12:42 |
| tseng | i dont see why though :P | 12:43 |
| tseng | its kind of voodoo | 12:43 |
| tseng | ajmitch: update easytag please :P | 12:44 |
| tseng | gar xbase-clients | 12:46 |
| ajmitch_ | tseng: ? | 12:46 |
| tseng | ajmitch_: cxx | 12:46 |
| ajmitch_ | k | 12:46 |
| tseng | whats the lib | 12:46 |
| tseng | libid3-3.8.3c2 | 12:47 |
| tseng | it wants to be built with that, i think | 12:47 |
| tseng | im not entirely sure what the cxx plan is all about | 12:47 |
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| ajmitch_ | if it doesn't supply a lib, it'll get rebuilt once libs are done | 12:47 |
| ajmitch_ | since it'll be in the blacklist of affected c++ apps | 12:48 |
| tseng | oh ok. | 12:48 |
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| ogra | bye guys | 12:48 |
| ajmitch_ | libid3 is in main, and already done | 12:48 |
| tseng | bye ogra. | 12:48 |
| ajmitch_ | bye ogra | 12:49 |
| Mithrandir | has anybody packaged the RHDS yet? | 12:50 |
| tseng | redhat destkop slowness? | 12:50 |
| Mithrandir | directory server | 12:50 |
| tseng | ah. | 12:50 |
| Nafallo | bye ogra | 12:51 |
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| tseng | ajmitch: what do you normally do to "syncronize with debian" | 01:10 |
| tseng | ajmitch: i think i am probably doing it the hard way | 01:10 |
| ajmitch | no, I think you're probably doing it properly | 01:11 |
| ajmitch | I haven't been communicating with debian nearly as much as I should have | 01:12 |
| tseng | i mean the technical process | 01:12 |
| tseng | i normally do svn up in package mono and look at changed files since the last i looked | 01:12 |
| tseng | and copy changes by hand | 01:12 |
| tseng | i envision you other guys doing some fancy crap with debdiff (which ive never used) | 01:13 |
| ajmitch | debdiff on the .dsc files to get the diff between the trees | 01:13 |
| ajmitch | I use MOM to get the debdiffs, too | 01:14 |
| tseng | hm | 01:14 |
| tseng | well i do stuff before its actually uploaded | 01:14 |
| tseng | *G* | 01:14 |
| ajmitch | since a lot of stuff I'd do would be just checking merges, making sure that what I do doesn't conflict.. | 01:15 |
| tseng | im just that slick | 01:15 |
| ajmitch | heh :) | 01:15 |
| ajmitch | I don't deal with debian's unreleased stuff yet, unless it's my own :) | 01:15 |
| ajmitch | and I should be moving to bazaar for that | 01:15 |
| tseng | oh if im not bleeding | 01:15 |
| tseng | its no good | 01:15 |
| ajmitch | pnet might actually have a new release in a week or so | 01:16 |
| tseng | i feed on crack. | 01:16 |
| ajmitch | so I'll update that, of course | 01:16 |
| ajmitch | it probably still won't run most apps that we care about | 01:17 |
| tseng | yeah im not sure why we are bothing to genericize cli stuff | 01:17 |
| tseng | when nothing works outside of mono | 01:17 |
| tseng | maybe someday.. | 01:18 |
| ajmitch | I might throw in a patch to try & use mono crack from its GAC | 01:18 |
| ajmitch | it'll just require me to figure out the version hasking used, should be trivial enough | 01:19 |
| tseng | man im starving | 01:19 |
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| tseng | this might be another no-upload night | 01:19 |
| ajmitch | I haven't uploaded for weeks | 01:20 |
| Nafallo | tseng: fetch an amd64 and get hacking ;-) | 01:20 |
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| Mez | can anyone help me with using the wiki - /query please | 01:40 |
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| Unfrgiven | morning all | 02:22 |
| Unfrgiven | doko_: ping? | 02:22 |
| tseng | morning Unfrgiven | 02:45 |
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| Unfrgiven | tseng: morning :) | 02:49 |
| Unfrgiven | tseng: how are things at your end? | 02:49 |
| tseng | good thanks | 02:52 |
| tseng | whats up | 02:52 |
| tseng | oh man the dog made me go running | 02:52 |
| tseng | im beat. | 02:52 |
| Unfrgiven | i had a question regarding the c++ transition and shlibs | 02:52 |
| tseng | ok, ajmitch can answer better than me | 02:52 |
| tseng | i only touch mono crack | 02:52 |
| Unfrgiven | ok ill wait for his return | 02:52 |
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| ajmitch | hi Unfrgiven | 03:02 |
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| ivoks | hello | 03:08 |
| Unfrgiven | ajmitch: hy | 03:26 |
| Unfrgiven | ivoks: hi | 03:26 |
| Unfrgiven | ajmitch: i just uploaded a new patch with the fixes you and doko suggested. i wasn't too sure what to do with shlibs but I think i've got it right now. you able to have a quick look? https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11371 | 03:28 |
| ivoks | ok... serpentine looks really nice | 03:29 |
| tseng | yes. | 03:29 |
| ivoks | yes? :) | 03:29 |
| tseng | it looks nice. | 03:29 |
| ajmitch | Unfrgiven: I might take a look in a bit, I'm at work | 03:30 |
| ivoks | did someone allready package it? | 03:30 |
| ajmitch | ivoks: yes, it should be in main | 03:30 |
| tseng | ogra looked at it | 03:30 |
| Unfrgiven | ajmitch: ok no probs. thanks :) | 03:30 |
| ivoks | ok | 03:30 |
| ajmitch | Unfrgiven: looks better | 03:31 |
| Unfrgiven | ajmitch: :) | 03:32 |
| ivoks | looks good | 03:36 |
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| ivoks | ok, so I could try to upload my first package? :) | 03:46 |
| ajmitch | ivoks: if you want | 03:47 |
| ivoks | wifi-radar for example :) | 03:48 |
| ajmitch | hmm :) | 03:48 |
| ivoks | no? :) | 03:49 |
| ivoks | yuhu! | 03:52 |
| ivoks | how, i guess it's up | 03:52 |
| ivoks | Successfully uploaded packages. | 03:52 |
| crimsun_ | you should get an email from katie | 03:53 |
| ivoks | ok | 03:53 |
| ivoks | no, no email from katie :) | 03:54 |
| crimsun_ | it runs every 5 minutes | 03:54 |
| crimsun_ | :00, :05, :10, ... | 03:54 |
| ivoks | i guess my email isn't whitelisted yet | 03:54 |
| ivoks | oh, i'll check then later :) or... now :) | 03:54 |
| ivoks | nothing :( | 03:56 |
| ivoks | once i'm able to upload, i shouldn't upload .deb, right? | 03:56 |
| crimsun_ | correct, only source uploads | 03:57 |
| crimsun_ | you only upload diff.gz + dsc usually | 03:57 |
| ivoks | ok | 03:57 |
| ivoks | changes? | 03:57 |
| crimsun_ | (yes, changes, too) | 03:57 |
| ivoks | ok | 03:57 |
| ajmitch | yes, .changes is definitely required | 03:58 |
| ajmitch | ivoks: what are you using to upload? | 03:58 |
| ivoks | dput | 03:58 |
| ajmitch | dput is configured for ubuntu? | 03:58 |
| ivoks | yes | 03:58 |
| ivoks | dput ubuntu ....changes | 03:59 |
| ajmitch | ok, so you'd do something like 'dput ubuntu package_version_source.changes' | 03:59 |
| ivoks | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Uploads | 03:59 |
| ivoks | yes | 03:59 |
| ajmitch | right | 03:59 |
| ajmitch | I haven't seen it on the changes list yet, but that could just be slow | 03:59 |
| ivoks | ajmitch: i guess my mail isn't whitelisted | 03:59 |
| ivoks | time to get some sleep | 04:08 |
| ivoks | bye | 04:09 |
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| enodev | motu? whats this about?? | 04:40 |
| ajmitch | masters of the universe | 04:40 |
| enodev | who are the masters= | 04:40 |
| enodev | ? | 04:40 |
| ajmitch | wiki.ubuntulinux.org/MOTU | 04:40 |
| enodev | yaeh alright i know the topic and the wiki | 04:40 |
| enodev | thought about some personal responses | 04:41 |
| ajmitch | good :) | 04:41 |
| enodev | =) the masters speakin to me.... | 04:41 |
| ajmitch | we work on universe packages.. | 04:41 |
| ajmitch | a fairly big area, of course | 04:41 |
| crimsun_ | when we're not working on universe packages, we're stuffing monkey brains into burlap sacks and selling them on the market | 04:41 |
| enodev | and quite off the ubuntu idea? | 04:42 |
| enodev | the market... | 04:42 |
| enodev | ubuntu says universe is baaaad | 04:42 |
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| enodev | sorry for my simple arguments =) | 04:42 |
| enodev | well i admid i lied about reading the wike... but motu makes sense to me now. i myself get most off the universe# | 04:44 |
| ajmitch | ubuntu doesn't say universe is bad | 04:44 |
| ajmitch | it's just not officially supported | 04:44 |
| enodev | but it doesnt really recommend it | 04:44 |
| ajmitch | which is why the MOTUs work on it | 04:44 |
| enodev | are u a *MAINTANER* ? | 04:45 |
| enodev | xcuse my spellin | 04:45 |
| ajmitch | I'm a MOTU, but I don't work on packages in main yet | 04:45 |
| enodev | i always thought universe was not part of the main stuff coz it lacked some ideas.. u know? | 04:46 |
| enodev | they make quite good statements why what is in the main trunk? | 04:46 |
| ajmitch | ideas? | 04:46 |
| ajmitch | main is what is officially supported for security & the like, by canonical | 04:47 |
| enodev | its more than just security | 04:47 |
| enodev | its the idea - as of what i have understood - about ubuntu | 04:47 |
| enodev | free to all | 04:48 |
| ajmitch | yes, and that's common across everything.. | 04:48 |
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| enodev | in one part its what i like ubuntu for | 04:49 |
| enodev | its meant to be for everyone | 04:50 |
| enodev | and if theres something that doesnt fit to all it be in universe | 04:50 |
| ajmitch | no, universe isn't like that | 04:51 |
| enodev | but still available to thoose who re already "enlightened" | 04:51 |
| enodev | i see ubuntu as desktop thing for me and my mom | 04:51 |
| ajmitch | universe is those packages that aren't part of the core distro, they're freely available to download for all | 04:51 |
| enodev | not for all | 04:51 |
| enodev | not all know how to add the sources.list to universe | 04:52 |
| ajmitch | it's not terribly hard | 04:52 |
| enodev | i know | 04:53 |
| enodev | but most dont | 04:53 |
| enodev | ive read an interesting article - a review | 04:53 |
| enodev | done by a windows user who had never touched linux so far | 04:54 |
| enodev | and all the hype about ubntu just vansihed | 04:54 |
| enodev | cause she didnt have all she wanted for a desktop os | 04:54 |
| enodev | ubuntu is great! | 04:54 |
| enodev | im here to tell it | 04:55 |
| enodev | but the simple desktop user doesnt get it | 04:55 |
| enodev | they dotn get as far as to the universe | 04:55 |
| enodev | .... until some one tells them about the masters :) | 04:55 |
| enodev | but i dont wanna talk about ubuntu. we know its cool. anyway | 04:57 |
| enodev | what the motu do? | 04:57 |
| enodev | *what do | 04:57 |
| enodev | are doing? | 04:57 |
| enodev | are going to do? | 04:57 |
| enodev | i dont know any of you | 04:58 |
| enodev | although ive installed alot off the universe | 04:58 |
| enodev | ..perhaps most | 04:58 |
| enodev | i remember the debian people complain | 04:59 |
| enodev | we're just taking from them | 05:00 |
| enodev | makin it impossible t give something back | 05:00 |
| whiprush | that's not true. | 05:00 |
| whiprush | patches are fed back. | 05:00 |
| whiprush | wether they're applied is another thing entirely. | 05:00 |
| enodev | yeah but debain people say ubuntu is changin too much | 05:01 |
| enodev | makin it impossoble to merge patches | 05:01 |
| enodev | i dont know ive looked in to it | 05:01 |
| enodev | ive never | 05:01 |
| enodev | sorry about missin words. it keeps happening | 05:02 |
| enodev | how much is ubuntu a cult makin people believe whats said? | 05:03 |
| enodev | am i totally off? | 05:03 |
| whiprush | You need to be a cult to be nice to people. :) | 05:03 |
| whiprush | er, you don't need. | 05:04 |
| enodev | i found myself praising ubuntu without knowing really much.... | 05:04 |
| enodev | i like ubuntu very much. i see a very important future | 05:04 |
| enodev | i wonder how many windows user are in this channel | 05:06 |
| ajmitch | probably not so many, this is usually a devel channel | 05:09 |
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| ajmitch | bbl | 05:09 |
| enodev | so the masters are all developers? | 05:09 |
| whiprush | mostly | 05:10 |
| enodev | is it hard to put something nice into universe? | 05:18 |
| chillywilly | anyone here ever use openvpn - http://openvpn.net? | 05:29 |
| ajmitch | can't say I have | 05:44 |
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| ivoks | morning | 08:11 |
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| ivoks | noone? :) | 09:53 |
| ivoks | no one even | 09:54 |
| Treenaks | nobody | 09:54 |
| ivoks | hehe | 09:55 |
| ivoks | netherland? | 09:56 |
| Treenaks | ivoks: why? | 09:56 |
| ivoks | 62,8% | 09:57 |
| ivoks | that's huge... | 09:57 |
| Treenaks | yes | 09:57 |
| ivoks | so, will parliament accept that or will they vote? | 09:58 |
| Treenaks | The cabinet will retract the proposal | 09:59 |
| ivoks | that's reasonable... | 09:59 |
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| ivoks | \sh: morning | 09:59 |
| \sh | morning | 10:00 |
| \sh | anyone with a laptop here? | 10:00 |
| Treenaks | lots of the "no" voters said: "We don't dislike Europe, we just dislike this particular 'constitution' for it" | 10:00 |
| Treenaks | \sh: at home | 10:00 |
| \sh | i have some serious problems with powernowd | 10:00 |
| ivoks | Treenaks: i tought so... EU is fine, but constitution needs patches :) | 10:00 |
| Treenaks | ivoks: exactly | 10:01 |
| ivoks | powernowd? | 10:01 |
| ivoks | don't use that... | 10:01 |
| ivoks | wait... i do :) | 10:01 |
| Treenaks | ivoks: FULL POWER ALL THE TIME | 10:01 |
| Treenaks | ivoks: uh.. wait | 10:01 |
| \sh | so i can disable powernowd from the runlevels? | 10:01 |
| ivoks | why not? | 10:02 |
| ivoks | \sh: what's wrong? | 10:02 |
| \sh | when it's fireing up, it puts my centrino cpu into 500mhz mode | 10:02 |
| ivoks | heh | 10:02 |
| ivoks | \sh: is it on battery? | 10:02 |
| \sh | no :) | 10:03 |
| ivoks | strange | 10:03 |
| ivoks | \sh: are you sure? | 10:03 |
| \sh | hmm...there is a cable going to the powerplug | 10:03 |
| \sh | yeah i'm sure | 10:03 |
| ivoks | cause, it starts at maximun, then drops when booting stops | 10:03 |
| \sh | ivoks: yeah, but it's not going up again | 10:04 |
| ivoks | mine is now @600 | 10:04 |
| ivoks | \sh: kernel change? :) | 10:04 |
| \sh | standard ubuntu i686 kernel | 10:04 |
| ivoks | hm | 10:04 |
| \sh | ivoks: btw...ocaml-findlib is not compiling properly | 10:04 |
| \sh | i changed yesterday the deps for it | 10:05 |
| ivoks | \sh: ? | 10:05 |
| \sh | ivoks: your app...gdome2-cpp-smart0 or something uses it | 10:05 |
| ivoks | ? | 10:05 |
| ivoks | i don't have any app in ubuntu :( | 10:06 |
| ivoks | i'm still not a MOTU :(( | 10:06 |
| \sh | ivoks: u r | 10:06 |
| \sh | ivoks: ping elmo ;) | 10:07 |
| \sh | ok...brb | 10:07 |
| ivoks | elmo: ping | 10:07 |
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| ivoks | ok... | 10:12 |
| ivoks | i'm doing a big system for one large company in croatia | 10:14 |
| ivoks | it will be my first misson critical deployment on ubuntu :) | 10:14 |
| ivoks | wb doko | 10:20 |
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| tseng | hi | 11:39 |
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| \sh | re | 11:53 |
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| \sh | bah...only because of my taxes i had to install windows xp | 11:54 |
| \sh | and because of an exchanged laptop mainboard the normal winxp install cd from hp is not working anymore :( | 11:55 |
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| Unfrgiven | ogra: hi dude | 12:43 |
| Unfrgiven | doko: ping? | 12:44 |
| ogra | hey | 12:44 |
| Unfrgiven | ogra: thanks for your kind words in e-mail :) | 12:44 |
| ogra | :) | 12:44 |
| ajmitch | hi ogra, Unfrgiven | 12:45 |
| Unfrgiven | ogra: ajmitch: got a question... i was doing the transition for libflash... and it was proving to be a pain... then i checked upstream and they've had *two* new releases. so i pacakged the new version and transitioned it... so when i create a bug in bugzilla, which file(s) should I upload? | 12:46 |
| Unfrgiven | ajmitch: hi | 12:46 |
| ogra | Unfrgiven, upstream = debian ? | 12:53 |
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| === Nafallo says morning all! | ||
| ajmitch | hi Nafallo | 12:56 |
| Unfrgiven | ogra: upstream = software developers, not debian | 01:01 |
| Unfrgiven | ogra: debian is on the same version that we are | 01:01 |
| Unfrgiven | ogra: i took the debian package and grabbed the new source.... and massaged the debian/* files to update version | 01:01 |
| ogra | hmm | 01:01 |
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| terrex | Please dont complain about mono deps for next 2 weeks | 01:03 |
| terrex | hehehe | 01:03 |
| terrex | ;-) | 01:03 |
| === Nafallo wonders from what date that counts ;-) | ||
| terrex | X-DD | 01:04 |
| Treenaks | Nafallo: tomorrow | 01:04 |
| Unfrgiven | ogra: ? | 01:04 |
| ajmitch | until the right bits are built in main, don't complain :) | 01:04 |
| ajmitch | Unfrgiven: be sure to provide an updated package back to debian :) | 01:05 |
| Nafallo | Treenaks: hehe | 01:05 |
| Unfrgiven | ajmitch: i will. but what about upload to ubuntu? what should i do with it? should i attach the dsc, orig.tar.gz and diff.gz to the cxx transition bug? | 01:06 |
| ajmitch | it'll be a special case, I think | 01:07 |
| Unfrgiven | yep so i should attach it to the bug right? | 01:07 |
| ajmitch | the debdiff *may* include all you need | 01:07 |
| ajmitch | only if you wanted a huge attachment that would cause some of us to cry :) | 01:08 |
| Unfrgiven | i think its safer to upload the source pacakges to the bug rather than have an insane debdiff :) | 01:08 |
| \sh | Unfrgiven: did u do a uupdate with the new upstream source? | 01:24 |
| \sh | ubuntu reached lycos europe :) | 01:27 |
| Unfrgiven | \sh: nup. | 01:29 |
| \sh | *rotfl* | 01:31 |
| \sh | this is pure geek stuff from japan | 01:31 |
| \sh | http://www.thanko.jp/kinniku_mouse.html | 01:31 |
| \sh | Mouse with power shocks | 01:31 |
| ajmitch | haha | 01:32 |
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| ivoks | hi | 01:38 |
| ivoks | elmo: ping | 01:41 |
| Unfrgiven | ivoks: hey | 01:41 |
| ivoks | Unfrgiven: wassup? :) | 01:41 |
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| \sh | hey JohnDong | 01:49 |
| chmj | \sh, libcoin ? | 01:49 |
| Unfrgiven | ivoks: just saying hi :) | 01:49 |
| ivoks | \sh: hi | 01:50 |
| JohnDong | hey | 01:50 |
| ivoks | Unfrgiven: ok | 01:50 |
| JohnDong | just decided to drop in for a bit | 01:50 |
| JohnDong | had a FreeNX request, but ubuntu-devel is handling that well | 01:51 |
| \sh | chmj: is uploaded | 01:51 |
| chmj | built ? | 01:51 |
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| \sh | chmj: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/c/coin2/2.3.0-1ubuntu1/ | 01:52 |
| \sh | anybody familiar with ocaml? | 01:58 |
| ivoks | :( | 01:58 |
| \sh | ivoks: there should be an updated source package for ocaml-findlib | 01:58 |
| \sh | (findlib == source name of the package) | 01:58 |
| \sh | i adjusted the ocaml build deps...please have a look for the buildlogs from yesterday for this package. I think i missed some xorg build deps...can u check? | 01:59 |
| JohnDong | can we get Blender 2.37? | 01:59 |
| ivoks | \sh: sec... | 02:00 |
| Amaranth | JohnDong: Hi, I'll be playing ogra today. :) If you joined MOTU you could get us Blender 2.37 :) | 02:00 |
| ajmitch | any MOTUGames people around? | 02:00 |
| JohnDong | lol | 02:00 |
| ajmitch | ah, I see it's already listed on the page, nevermind :) | 02:01 |
| \sh | ajmitch: siretart ? | 02:01 |
| ajmitch | \sh: yeah, I wasn't sure if he was around | 02:01 |
| ivoks | \sh: i never worked with findlib... | 02:01 |
| \sh | ivoks: i never worked with any package which I transistioned ;) | 02:02 |
| ivoks | \sh: i didn't transition findlib | 02:02 |
| ivoks | \sh: neither any package depending on it | 02:03 |
| \sh | ivoks: it's C :) | 02:03 |
| ogra | JohnDong, the FreeNX implementation as is is to broken in our opinion, Mithrandir is working on a sane port since some time | 02:03 |
| ogra | JohnDong, hi btw | 02:03 |
| \sh | ivoks: gdome2-cpp-smart2 depends on ocaml-findlib | 02:03 |
| ivoks | \sh: i didn't do that | 02:03 |
| ogra | JohnDong, is blender 2.37 n debian ? | 02:03 |
| JohnDong | ogra: hi :). I was just talking with him about FreeNX, and he at least GOT the source packages this time :) | 02:03 |
| \sh | ivoks: gmetadom | 02:03 |
| \sh | 02:03 | |
| \sh | libgdome2-cpp-smart0 | 02:03 |
| \sh | Need to update dependency on ocaml-nox. | 02:04 |
| \sh | this is yours ;) | 02:04 |
| ivoks | ? | 02:04 |
| JohnDong | ogra: no, but 2.36 patches apply cleanly against 2.37 :) | 02:04 |
| ivoks | \sh: ?! | 02:04 |
| ogra | JohnDong, ah, sorry i'm terribly busy today, didnt follow -devel (i only react on pings currently ;) ) | 02:04 |
| ivoks | \sh: find . -name control -exec grep ocmal {} ';' doesn't find anything :) | 02:04 |
| \sh | ivoks: check your cxx libs list :) gmetadom is your package;) and i need this package for gtkmathview | 02:04 |
| \sh | ivoks: ocaml-nox dependencies :) in gmetadome | 02:05 |
| ajmitch | yeah I've been bitten by ocaml deps as well | 02:05 |
| \sh | ajmitch: we have to check all universe ocaml-* libs | 02:05 |
| ogra | JohnDong, if you find a MOTU willing to maintain the belnder package then, i see no problems | 02:05 |
| JohnDong | ogra: GREAT, now I'm on recruiting duty.... | 02:05 |
| ivoks | \sh: lol i never did that package! who signed it for me? | 02:05 |
| JohnDong | lol | 02:05 |
| \sh | ivoks: not me | 02:06 |
| ajmitch | \sh: sure, let's get started :) | 02:06 |
| ajmitch | ivoks: you've been volunteered | 02:06 |
| \sh | ajmitch: i started with findlib :) | 02:06 |
| ajmitch | great | 02:06 |
| ivoks | ? | 02:06 |
| ajmitch | I've never used ocaml | 02:06 |
| ivoks | heh | 02:06 |
| ivoks | np, i can build it | 02:06 |
| ivoks | i didn't know it was assigned to me | 02:06 |
| \sh | ajmitch: can u check the buildlogs for it? i don't understand the xorg stuff there...normally there shouldn't be any problems | 02:06 |
| ajmitch | \sh: check which build logs, sorry? | 02:07 |
| ogra | JohnDong, the problem with packages we patch is that its likely that we have to care for them for a while, so someone has o take the blame ;) | 02:07 |
| ivoks | i really need access to 64 bit computers | 02:07 |
| \sh | ajmitch: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/f/findlib/1.0.4-3ubuntu1/findlib_1.0.4-3ubuntu1_20050601-2015-i386-failed.gz | 02:07 |
| ivoks | i can't test sources without them.. | 02:07 |
| JohnDong | ivoks: have you tried abusing Sourceforge? | 02:08 |
| ajmitch | ok.. | 02:08 |
| ajmitch | \sh: /usr/bin/gcc-3.4.gcc-opt: No such file or directory | 02:09 |
| ajmitch | Error while building custom runtime system | 02:09 |
| ivoks | :)) | 02:09 |
| \sh | argl | 02:09 |
| ajmitch | so it wanted a Build-Depends on gcc-3.4, I think | 02:09 |
| \sh | lemme finish my xp install...will take care about it | 02:10 |
| ajmitch | sure | 02:10 |
| \sh | .oO(i have to fix gnome-chemistry-utils (c++ errors), findlib, gnuift ,gnuradio gtkglextmm ,gtkmathview ) | 02:11 |
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| \sh | ivoks: i will take then also gmetadom | 02:11 |
| ivoks | wait | 02:11 |
| ivoks | i downloaded source now | 02:11 |
| ivoks | i'll do it | 02:11 |
| \sh | ivoks: u have to w8 ;) i need to fix findlib ;) | 02:11 |
| ivoks | damn! you are confusing me :) | 02:12 |
| \sh | ivoks: gmetadom needs findlib :) | 02:12 |
| \sh | argh..need to reboot ...brb | 02:12 |
| ivoks | \sh: i didn't know that, cause i never touched that source | 02:12 |
| JohnDong | oh yeah, how about a wine 20050419 import from Sid? | 02:12 |
| JohnDong | wine fixes so much per release! | 02:12 |
| Nafallo | ivoks: are you supposed to be here? ;-) | 02:13 |
| ivoks | ? | 02:13 |
| Nafallo | ivoks: you are supposed to be away for a week? :-) | 02:14 |
| ivoks | yeah, but... | 02:14 |
| ivoks | i'll do this two packages... | 02:14 |
| ivoks | i don't know who put me there :) | 02:15 |
| ajmitch | JohnDong: source packages are in, the build just needs fixed | 02:15 |
| \sh | ivoks: 2 packages? | 02:15 |
| \sh | wanna do findlib? | 02:15 |
| ivoks | \sh: yeah, libflash too | 02:15 |
| JohnDong | ajmitch: ok | 02:15 |
| ajmitch | http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/w/wine/0.0.20050419-1/ | 02:15 |
| \sh | ivoks: libflas? | 02:15 |
| Nafallo | ivoks: hehe. I knew you should have banned yourself yesterday ;-) | 02:15 |
| ivoks | \sh: no, finish that one... i don't have upload right still :( | 02:15 |
| ivoks | \sh: libflash | 02:16 |
| \sh | libflash is Unfrgiven | 02:16 |
| ivoks | ?Q | 02:16 |
| ajmitch | JohnDong: I suspect once deps are sorted there may still be g++ 4.0 issues | 02:16 |
| ivoks | no according to my list | 02:16 |
| ajmitch | Unfrgiven has a libflash package done | 02:17 |
| ivoks | ?! | 02:17 |
| ivoks | why is my nick there? | 02:17 |
| ivoks | hm... | 02:17 |
| ivoks | libextractor?! i did that one? | 02:18 |
| ajmitch | wiki breakage? | 02:18 |
| ivoks | who messed with WIKI!?! | 02:18 |
| \sh | brb | 02:18 |
| ajmitch | Unfrgiven did that one as well | 02:18 |
| JohnDong | ajmitch: Gentoo seemed to be ok with GCC4, so I hope we'll be, too :) | 02:18 |
| ajmitch | the wiki is fragile | 02:18 |
| Amaranth | JohnDong: wine breaks so much per release | 02:20 |
| ogra | JohnDong, yes, once we have transitioned half of the universe :) | 02:20 |
| Amaranth | JohnDong: people that use photoshop on wine generally use a copy of wine from 2003, it works best | 02:20 |
| ivoks | https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/CxxLibraryList?prevDiff%3Amethod=%3C%3C+previous+edit¤tRevision=4 | 02:21 |
| ivoks | ?!?! | 02:21 |
| ajmitch | ivoks: what? | 02:22 |
| Amaranth | ivoks: you were working on that? | 02:22 |
| ivoks | https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/CxxLibraryList?prevDiff%3Amethod=%3C%3C+previous+edit¤tRevision=7 | 02:22 |
| ivoks | who did this?! | 02:23 |
| JohnDong | Amaranth: hmm, well, the stuff that I work with are very MSI dependent, and work best with later releases | 02:23 |
| ivoks | ajmitch: too much || || in the end on revision 4 | 02:23 |
| ivoks | and lot's of errors on revision5 | 02:23 |
| ivoks | pardon, revision 7 | 02:23 |
| ajmitch | ivoks: ok.. | 02:23 |
| ajmitch | as we said, a wiki is fragile :) | 02:23 |
| ajmitch | ogra: heard any more about RT? | 02:23 |
| ogra | ajmitch, not yet, i'll bug elmo these days....but he's likely to be busy releasing sarge until the weekend ;) | 02:24 |
| ajmitch | true :) | 02:24 |
| ogra | (at least from what i heard) | 02:24 |
| ivoks | hm... | 02:25 |
| ivoks | some one tought I'm AnkurKotwal :) | 02:25 |
| Nafallo | baah. let sarge wait ;-) | 02:25 |
| ajmitch | ivoks: what, you're not? :) | 02:25 |
| ivoks | ajmitch: :) | 02:25 |
| ivoks | ajmitch: :) no | 02:26 |
| ajmitch | hehe | 02:26 |
| ajmitch | I've met Unfrgiven at UDU | 02:26 |
| ajmitch | I know you're not him :) | 02:26 |
| ivoks | well, some one changed NameLastname into Nick | 02:26 |
| ivoks | and did mistake | 02:26 |
| ivoks | s | 02:26 |
| ivoks | mistakes :) | 02:26 |
| ivoks | ok, i'll fix that... | 02:27 |
| ivoks | so... AnkurKotwal is Unforgiven? | 02:27 |
| Nafallo | ivoks: no. don't forgive him yet ;-). | 02:29 |
| Amaranth | arg | 02:30 |
| Amaranth | gmail doesn't let you filter on cc | 02:30 |
| Amaranth | i mean, i'm sure it would be possible if their form had the option for it, since you can search based on cc | 02:30 |
| \sh | hmm... | 02:30 |
| ivoks | \sh: change you comments :) | 02:30 |
| \sh | i installed windows xp now, my grub is away, can i boot with warty live cd, chroot to my hoary and change it again? this should work | 02:31 |
| \sh | ivoks: when I'm back on linux :) | 02:31 |
| ivoks | why not? | 02:31 |
| ivoks | \sh: ok, i | 02:31 |
| ivoks | \sh: i'll do it for u | 02:32 |
| \sh | ivoks: are u taking over the packages from Unfrgiven ? | 02:32 |
| Nafallo | \sh: something like that. install mbr again + edit menu.list :-) | 02:32 |
| \sh | Nafallo: thats for sure...but i'm not sure about my reiserfs parts ;) | 02:33 |
| ivoks | \sh: no, some one put my nick instead of his name | 02:33 |
| ivoks | \sh: so i'm fixing that | 02:34 |
| \sh | ivoks: the packages or the wiki? ,-) | 02:36 |
| ivoks | \sh: yes | 02:36 |
| ajmitch | sleep time, see you all tomorrow :) | 02:36 |
| tseng | bye ajmitch | 02:36 |
| ivoks | \sh: some one put ivoks instead of AnkurKotwal | 02:36 |
| ivoks | ajmitch: night! | 02:36 |
| Amaranth | neat, gmail doesn't do any validation on what you put in filters | 02:36 |
| === \sh morphs into ogra right now, just like hes forcing to recruite everyone for MOTU, i will force ivoks to fix gmetadom | ||
| \sh | ;) | 02:37 |
| ivoks | \sh: i will grap few packages tomorrow | 02:37 |
| Amaranth | if you put 'foo@bar.com' it puts the filter as to:(foo@bar.com) so if you put 'foo@bar.com) OR cc:(foo@bar.com' the search is to:(foo@bar.com) OR cc:(foo@bar.com) | 02:37 |
| ivoks | i have too much work for uni today | 02:37 |
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| \sh | ivoks: no problem :) I'm slowing down a bit, cause to tired, and I need to have time for my real life right now.. | 02:50 |
| ivoks | :) | 02:50 |
| ivoks | \sh: who do i have to kill to get upload account arround here? :) | 02:50 |
| \sh | ivoks: u need your key in the ring :) | 02:51 |
| ivoks | well... i send it to keyring@ubuntu.com | 02:51 |
| \sh | ivoks: your email addr is whitelisted? | 02:51 |
| \sh | ivoks: read http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MOTUOnceYouAreApproved | 02:52 |
| ivoks | \sh: i send signed coc when i become member, so i guess it is... | 02:52 |
| ivoks | \sh: i read that 3 times :) | 02:52 |
| \sh | ivoks: read http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Uploads | 02:53 |
| ivoks | \sh: did that too | 02:53 |
| ivoks | and tried to upload | 02:53 |
| \sh | ivoks: mailed upload@ubuntulinux.org for whitelisting, send mail with gpg key to keyring@ubuntu.com and ping elmo when hes around ;) | 02:54 |
| ivoks | i didn't mail upload, tough.... | 02:54 |
| \sh | ivoks: but it will take at least a week until elmo is reacting..don't worry :) | 02:55 |
| ivoks | ok then | 02:55 |
| ivoks | now i know timeframe | 02:56 |
| ivoks | when was meeting? 30? 31? | 02:59 |
| Unfrgiven | \sh: i have taken gmetadom :) | 03:06 |
| Unfrgiven | \sh: it was already marked as me | 03:06 |
| Unfrgiven | its a VERY painful package to do though | 03:06 |
| Unfrgiven | because the ocaml packages need to be fixed up first | 03:06 |
| Unfrgiven | and theres a lot of them | 03:07 |
| Unfrgiven | im heading that up though.... | 03:08 |
| Unfrgiven | i need to email the debian maintainers to find out what they were thinking when they named ocaml-nox as ocaml-nox-3.08... the "-3.08" is part of the name not the version! :( | 03:08 |
| ivoks | :) | 03:13 |
| === Nafallo < shower, bbl | ||
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| mgalvin | hi all | 03:29 |
| \sh | Unfrgiven: re | 03:36 |
| \sh | Unfrgiven: i took findlib (source) ocaml-findlib (binary) package, but failed to build | 03:36 |
| \sh | Unfrgiven: all ocaml in main r without -3.08 so we should fix only the universe packages. | 03:37 |
| \sh | and btw...back in linux :) | 03:37 |
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| Unfrgiven | \sh: ok will do. | 03:39 |
| \sh | Unfrgiven: the buildlogs from yesterday is http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/f/findlib/1.0.4-3ubuntu1/findlib_1.0.4-3ubuntu1_20050601-2015-i386-failed.gz | 03:39 |
| mgalvin | i built a package for libcwd and later found that there is already a debian version of a previous release | 03:46 |
| mgalvin | what do you guys usually do, should this package be imported from deb into ubuntu then update | 03:47 |
| \sh | mgalvin: take the debian package, update the package to the latest upstream version, debdiff it, send it back to debian :) | 03:47 |
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| mgalvin | \sh, ok, then how do i then get into ububtu | 03:48 |
| mgalvin | it is not currently in ubuntu anywhere | 03:48 |
| \sh | mgalvin: so its a new package? Put it on moment *search* | 03:49 |
| \sh | https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UniverseCandidates | 03:49 |
| \sh | here | 03:49 |
| mgalvin | \sh, ok I will update the debian package and add it to the wiki | 03:51 |
| mgalvin | \sh, thnx | 03:51 |
| Unfrgiven | \sh: ill have a look at it tomorrow. | 03:52 |
| Unfrgiven | for now im going to get to bed.... | 03:52 |
| Unfrgiven | gnite all | 03:53 |
| \sh | Unfrgiven: i don't know if I can manage, but if i have time, i'll take a look again... | 03:53 |
| Nafallo | Unfrgiven: nite | 03:53 |
| mgalvin | Unfrgive, good night | 03:53 |
| Nafallo | Unfrgiven: night even | 03:53 |
| \sh | Unfrgiven: g'night dude :) | 03:53 |
| Unfrgiven | \sh: yep sure... thanks | 03:54 |
| Unfrgiven | cya | 03:54 |
| lamont | mgalvin: do you mean this libcwd: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/libc/libcwd/ | 03:57 |
| lamont | 0.99.34-1, fwiw | 03:57 |
| mgalvin | lamont, that looks like it | 03:58 |
| lamont | mgalvin: so you're looking to update that to a newer upstream version? | 03:59 |
| mgalvin | lamont, yes | 03:59 |
| lamont | the biggest thing to work through there is coordinating with the debian maintainer since we really really really want to have the same .orig.tar.gz as debian does. | 04:00 |
| mgalvin | lamont, i already spoke with madduck, the debian maintainer for this package | 04:00 |
| lamont | coolness | 04:00 |
| mgalvin | he is swamped and said its ok for me to work on it | 04:01 |
| mgalvin | :) | 04:01 |
| mgalvin | so i guess the best route is to grab the debian version at 0.99.39 and update that, or should I be updating this ubuntu verision at .34? | 04:02 |
| mgalvin | since its in ubuntu already | 04:03 |
| mgalvin | the debian version is here http://packages.debian.org/unstable/libdevel/libcwd-dev | 04:05 |
| wasabi | So I need to go about starting the process of being allowed to upload to main. | 04:05 |
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| Riddell | anyone got examples of packages which have renamed? I'm wondering what the best thing to do is | 04:22 |
| Treenaks | firefox ? | 04:22 |
| ogra | Riddell, see the Cxx transition :-P | 04:23 |
| ogra | there are hundrets ;) | 04:23 |
| Nafallo | hehe | 04:23 |
| Riddell | ogra: that's libraries | 04:24 |
| ogra | yep, whats the problem, they all changed their names | 04:24 |
| Riddell | things depend on libraries so they get swapped magically, with an application I'm wondering how to make a user with the old package get the new one | 04:25 |
| Nafallo | Riddell: unrar -> unrar-free | 04:25 |
| Nafallo | mozilla-firefox -> firefox | 04:25 |
| Nafallo | the last one was switched in ubuntu-desktop iirc | 04:26 |
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| Nafallo | ogra: ping | 04:47 |
| \sh | ok...need to go home now... | 04:51 |
| \sh | cu later dudes | 04:51 |
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| Burgundavia | crap, look at the red on the build list today | 05:01 |
| Nafallo | ogra: will blam be in breezy main? and why isn't python2.4-gnome2-extras in main here? :-) | 05:05 |
| ogra | Nafallo, because it was not moved yet | 05:05 |
| ogra | and no, blam will stay in universe | 05:06 |
| ogra | Nafallo, dependency packages that move to main (mono deps and python2.4-gnome2-extras) need a security review first | 05:06 |
| Nafallo | ogra: I'm replanning my mirror. that's why I'm asking :-). | 05:07 |
| Nafallo | ogra: ahh, I wondered what was wrong ;-) | 05:07 |
| ogra | will take some time, i have to write a spec for python2.4-gnome2-extras, then pitti will review it | 05:08 |
| Nafallo | no hurry. just try to work about what packages is in use and what need to mirror universe and multiverse I currently have :-P | 05:09 |
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| Riddell | what's that site that dead packages go to? | 05:17 |
| tseng | MorgueCandidates i am thinking | 05:17 |
| tseng | search for Morgue | 05:17 |
| Nafallo | morgue.ubuntu.com, but it seems it's not updated. | 05:17 |
| Nafallo | tseng: hi tseng :-) | 05:17 |
| tseng | hi | 05:17 |
| tseng | i had to restart all my rrdtool graphs :( | 05:18 |
| tseng | i was almost up to a full week of data | 05:18 |
| Lathiat | heh | 05:21 |
| Lathiat | i found munin really nice | 05:21 |
| Lathiat | sweet as rrd frontend | 05:22 |
| Lathiat | easy to write plugins for | 05:22 |
| \sh | re | 05:44 |
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| Amaranth | if lintian gives me 'build-depends-without-arch-dep' because i depend on debhelper, can i ignore it? | 06:15 |
| Mithrandir | I would rather fix it. | 06:15 |
| Mithrandir | use build-depends-indep | 06:16 |
| Amaranth | ok | 06:16 |
| Amaranth | woo | 06:18 |
| Amaranth | i pass in lintian on the deb and dsc | 06:18 |
| Mithrandir | pass the .changes file to lintian | 06:19 |
| Amaranth | passed | 06:19 |
| Amaranth | now i just need to wait for pyxdg 0.13 to hit main | 06:20 |
| Mithrandir | it got lost in the upload queue according to elmo. | 06:21 |
| Amaranth | katie died or something | 06:21 |
| Mithrandir | yeah | 06:21 |
| Mithrandir | poor katie | 06:21 |
| Amaranth | we can rebuild her | 06:22 |
| ogra | she is well again... she just told me so by mail | 06:24 |
| Amaranth | is she better, faster, stronger? | 06:25 |
| ogra | no, just like before | 06:25 |
| Amaranth | wow, you're probably older than me and didn't get that | 06:25 |
| Nafallo | lol | 06:26 |
| Nafallo | ogra: rss-screensavers? | 06:27 |
| ogra | yeah, there seem to be some... i didnt investigate it yet... | 06:27 |
| ogra | was rather busy to merge all changes by hand... :( | 06:28 |
| Nafallo | ogra: sounds kewl. just have to find them then ;-). | 06:28 |
| ogra | now to a new lock window.... the current one will slap the users in the face with its uglyness again | 06:28 |
| Mithrandir | ogra: would you care to fix the problem where it times out while you're typing? | 06:30 |
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| \sh | ah ogra...fck..i forgot to ask u | 06:31 |
| \sh | branislav's in town | 06:31 |
| ogra | Mithrandir, thats included in the spec i worked out with mpt in sydney, yes.... the clock shall reset with every digit you type | 06:31 |
| Mithrandir | ogra++ | 06:32 |
| \sh | this evening poco loco between friesenplatz and rudolfplatz .. some drinks with old friends? u r interessted? | 06:32 |
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| === Amaranth pokes people toward https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MOTUNewPackages | ||
| Amaranth | can i get a review of smeg? it's rather small | 06:34 |
| Amaranth | passes lintian with no warnings, should be quick | 06:34 |
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| ogra | did i mention that overheating laptops are most annoying ? | 06:36 |
| \sh | ogra: u should use a hp ;) slow but stable ;) at least when it's not plugged in the portreplicator | 06:37 |
| ogra | \sh, my next one will be a hp :) | 06:37 |
| Amaranth | Riddell: ping? | 06:37 |
| \sh | ogra: u got my message about branislav? | 06:38 |
| ogra | yep... | 06:38 |
| Riddell | Amaranth: yo | 06:38 |
| Amaranth | ogra: you should review my package ;) | 06:38 |
| Amaranth | Riddell: you said to ping you to review smeg | 06:39 |
| ogra | 1. i got no car around.... 2. i have to fix the screensaver and want to be ready before the weekend .... so no, but send my greetings | 06:39 |
| Nafallo | ogra: does everything you own overheat or is the same one? :-P | 06:39 |
| ogra | its always the same | 06:39 |
| \sh | ogra: Kaloz | 06:39 |
| \sh | ogra: aeh ;) k | 06:39 |
| Riddell | Amaranth: where can I find it? | 06:39 |
| Amaranth | https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MOTUNewPackages | 06:40 |
| Riddell | Amaranth: poke me in a minute, I need to release koffice | 06:40 |
| Amaranth | ok | 06:40 |
| \sh | try to fix ocaml | 07:02 |
| \sh | Unfrgiven: ping | 07:03 |
| Riddell | you'll all be pleased to hear that KOffice 1.4 rc has just been announced | 07:19 |
| ogra | hmmm.... | 07:20 |
| \sh | riddell: python-kde3 will come this night | 07:20 |
| === ogra woners if he should be pleased | ||
| \sh | goffice is not around ;) | 07:21 |
| Amaranth | Riddell: cool | 07:22 |
| \sh | thx riddell for your work :) | 07:23 |
| ogra | \sh, http://www.gnome.org/gnome-office/ | 07:23 |
| ogra | \sh, tsk tsk tsk | 07:23 |
| Riddell | gnome-office, also known as "throw some random applications together and call it a suite" | 07:24 |
| \sh | ;) | 07:24 |
| Riddell | tsk, I'm just a troll | 07:24 |
| \sh | !topic Troll Time Now | 07:24 |
| Riddell | \sh: but ogra started it! | 07:24 |
| \sh | Riddell: true, it's called: TrollTech | 07:24 |
| \sh | no I started it ;) | 07:25 |
| === ogra is pleased that the KDE people also have something they can call office, even if you cant open M$ files in it :) | ||
| \sh | what? | 07:25 |
| ogra | oh, can you ? | 07:26 |
| \sh | shaving+showering+smelling very nice time now ;) | 07:26 |
| Riddell | Amaranth: README file in smeg could do with some work :) | 07:26 |
| Amaranth | hehe | 07:26 |
| Amaranth | can't think of what to write | 07:26 |
| Amaranth | want me to put something in there first? | 07:27 |
| Riddell | dpkg-source: cannot represent change to lib/smeg/MenuHandler.pyc: binary file contents changed | 07:28 |
| Amaranth | i put that in there?!? | 07:28 |
| Amaranth | ack | 07:28 |
| ogra | ouch | 07:28 |
| Amaranth | i checked so many times and missed on the last upload :/ | 07:28 |
| ogra | just do a rm *.pyc in the clean target | 07:29 |
| Riddell | shouldn't cdbs magicaly do the correct clean? | 07:29 |
| Amaranth | no, i think i left those in there before tar'ing it | 07:29 |
| Riddell | Amaranth: well if you're updating the tar files may as well put in "Smeg is an XDG menu editor" or something in README | 07:30 |
| Amaranth | those files aren't in my tar | 07:33 |
| Amaranth | so cdbs is failing me | 07:34 |
| Amaranth | nice | 07:34 |
| Amaranth | any ideas? | 07:35 |
| Amaranth | they're not in my orig or the deb i built, either | 07:36 |
| ogra | Nafallo, FontGlide and FontGlide (scroller) are the rss screensavers | 07:39 |
| Nafallo | ogra: thanx :-) | 07:39 |
| Amaranth | i'll reupload with a README though | 07:39 |
| ogra | heh, they are actually quite cool :) | 07:40 |
| Riddell | Amaranth: ah wait, could be my fault | 07:42 |
| Amaranth | Riddell: reuploaded with README | 07:42 |
| Riddell | Amaranth: cool | 07:42 |
| Amaranth | you ran it before you built it? :) | 07:42 |
| Riddell | Amaranth: I did | 07:42 |
| Amaranth | hehe | 07:42 |
| Riddell | python is sneaky like that | 07:43 |
| Riddell | File "/usr/lib/smeg/DialogHandler.py", line 30, in ? | 07:47 |
| Riddell | import gtk, gtk.glade | 07:47 |
| Riddell | ImportError: No module named glade | 07:47 |
| Amaranth | that's not a part of pygtk in ubuntu? | 07:47 |
| Amaranth | whatever package it's in, it's in the DesktopSeed for ubuntu :P | 07:48 |
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| Riddell | not of python2.4-gtk2 | 07:48 |
| Amaranth | *groan* | 07:49 |
| ivoks | hello | 07:49 |
| Amaranth | must be python-gnome | 07:49 |
| ivoks | elmo: ping :) | 07:49 |
| Amaranth | no, not there either | 07:49 |
| \sh | Riddell: do have it at your hand: which version of sip4 is in breezy right now? | 07:50 |
| Riddell | Package: sip4 Version: 4.2.1-1ubuntu3 | 07:50 |
| \sh | good..txh | 07:51 |
| Amaranth | ah | 07:51 |
| Amaranth | python2.4-glade2 | 07:51 |
| Amaranth | i'm stupid | 07:51 |
| Riddell | installed python-glade2 and now I get a different error | 07:52 |
| Amaranth | what? | 07:52 |
| Riddell | File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/xdg/Menu.py", line 498, in parse | 07:52 |
| Riddell | raise ParsingError('File not found', filename) | 07:52 |
| Riddell | xdg.Exceptions.ParsingError: ParsingError in file '/etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu', File not found | 07:52 |
| Amaranth | oh, that | 07:52 |
| Amaranth | yeah, the .desktop file runs smeg --kde | 07:52 |
| Riddell | I was running from command line | 07:53 |
| Amaranth | but none of this runs without pyxdg 0.13, which hasn't hit main yet | 07:53 |
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| Riddell | and I don't have that file | 07:53 |
| Amaranth | Riddell: Fix kde and I can fix smeg. | 07:53 |
| Nafallo | Amaranth: I've downloaded it already. | 07:53 |
| Amaranth | Nafallo: it hit main? woo | 07:53 |
| Nafallo | :-) | 07:53 |
| Riddell | pyxdg installed fine | 07:53 |
| Amaranth | Riddell: Yes, but kde's applications.menu is kde-applications.menu, running with --kde makes smeg look for that. | 07:54 |
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| Amaranth | Riddell: If you guys hadn't broken the spec I wouldn't have had to break smeg. :) | 07:54 |
| \sh | shermann@shermann-laptop:~/kde/pykde/trans$ sudo pbuilder build python-kde3_3.11.4+snapshot20050316-0ubuntu2 | 07:55 |
| \sh | now it goes | 07:55 |
| ivoks | sudo? | 07:55 |
| ivoks | fakeroot | 07:55 |
| Riddell | Amaranth: I'm open to suggestions on how to fix that | 07:56 |
| Amaranth | make both depend on a common package | 07:56 |
| Riddell | Amaranth: and the only reason KDE moved and gnome didn't was I changed the package first then jdub said "oh well gnome doesn't have to change now" | 07:56 |
| Amaranth | if gnome would have moved i would have switch to another distro | 07:56 |
| Amaranth | anyway, reuploaded packages with dependency on python2.4-glade2 | 07:57 |
| Riddell | File "/usr/lib/python2.4/os.py", line 159, in makedirs | 07:57 |
| Riddell | mkdir(name, mode) | 07:57 |
| Riddell | OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/home/jr/.config/smeg' | 07:57 |
| Riddell | not very good at it's exception catching this thing :) | 07:57 |
| Amaranth | your permissions are screwed | 07:57 |
| ivoks | :) | 07:58 |
| Amaranth | so far all the exceptions are in pyxdg | 07:58 |
| Amaranth | except for the glade thing | 07:58 |
| Amaranth | why would you not have access to your own $XDG_CONFIG_HOME? | 07:58 |
| Amaranth | brb | 07:59 |
| Riddell | Amaranth: it's a chroot, my permissions are indeed screwed | 07:59 |
| Riddell | I still get | 07:59 |
| Riddell | xdg.Exceptions.ParsingError: ParsingError in file '/etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu', File not found | 07:59 |
| Riddell | when I run with --kde or from a menu | 07:59 |
| Amaranth | kde-applications.menu exists? | 07:59 |
| Riddell | /etc/xdg/menus/kde-applications.menu does | 08:00 |
| Nafallo | lol | 08:00 |
| \sh | hehehe | 08:00 |
| Riddell | Amaranth: in the .desktop files you should have GenericName=Menu Editor and just Name=smeg | 08:01 |
| \sh | Riddell: u want my build.log? | 08:01 |
| Riddell | \sh: of pykde? | 08:01 |
| \sh | yeah | 08:01 |
| \sh | screwed completly | 08:01 |
| Riddell | \sh: erk | 08:01 |
| \sh | xbase clients and kdelibs4c2 | 08:02 |
| \sh | etc. pp | 08:02 |
| Riddell | oh, X package errors | 08:02 |
| Nafallo | ogra: gaah! that won't be my default rss-reader anyway ;-) | 08:02 |
| Amaranth | Riddell: i have no idea what's wrong with your system then :/ | 08:02 |
| Amaranth | Riddell: this works fine here | 08:02 |
| ogra | Nafallo, why ? its cool | 08:02 |
| Amaranth | Riddell: Aren't you the one that told me to make it 'Smeg Menu Editor' so you can tell at a glance what it is? | 08:02 |
| Nafallo | ogra: maybe if you got 3d-love ;-) | 08:02 |
| Amaranth | ok, so i should depend on gnome-menus | kdelibs4 | 08:03 |
| \sh | kdelibs4c2 | 08:03 |
| ogra | Nafallo, lets see ;) if someone extends the days by 10h i'll probably have time | 08:03 |
| ivoks | kde made transition? | 08:03 |
| Riddell | Amaranth: don't think so, not sure. but it should be as I just said | 08:03 |
| Amaranth | Riddell: That doesn't help GNOME users out much. | 08:04 |
| \sh | ivoks: where r u living? ,-) | 08:04 |
| Nafallo | ogra: ooh. I thought my lack of 3d was the reason for the lag ;-) | 08:04 |
| Amaranth | Riddell: I can do that in smeg-kde.desktop though | 08:04 |
| Riddell | Amaranth: how so? | 08:04 |
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| wasabi_ | Hello! | 08:04 |
| ogra | Nafallo, you can adjust it | 08:04 |
| Amaranth | Riddell: gnome doesn't show the generic name | 08:04 |
| \sh | Riddell: ah...libkonq etc. | 08:04 |
| Riddell | Amaranth: it works if I have a file /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu, then when run with --kde it picks up the kde-applications.menu file | 08:05 |
| Riddell | Amaranth: but it needs a applications.menu to be there | 08:05 |
| Amaranth | *boggle* | 08:05 |
| Amaranth | damnit | 08:05 |
| Riddell | Amaranth: not my fault if gnome doesn't implement the spec properly :) | 08:05 |
| \sh | Riddell: http://ubuntu.linux-server.org/pykde-build-20050602.log | 08:06 |
| wasabi_ | I need to start down the road of getting upload perms to main. Where do I start? | 08:06 |
| Amaranth | Riddell: I don't see how that can be unless pyxdg is broken. | 08:07 |
| Amaranth | the needing applications.menu part, i mean | 08:07 |
| Riddell | "/etc/X11/xkb/xkbcomp symbolic link points to wrong location" \sh I've seen other people complain about that | 08:07 |
| Amaranth | i'll have to wait for lanius to get back online | 08:07 |
| Amaranth | smeg will probably have to wait for pyxdg 0.14 | 08:08 |
| Riddell | Amaranth: other than that I'm happy with the package | 08:08 |
| Nafallo | ogra: yea. that made it a lot easier. but it seems the damn thing lacks UTF-8 love or something ;-). | 08:08 |
| \sh | Riddell: but it's not the main issue | 08:08 |
| Riddell | \sh: seems to be the issue in that build log | 08:08 |
| Nafallo | ogra: i.e. Matar<strange char> | 08:08 |
| Nafallo | ;-) | 08:08 |
| ivoks | \sh: would you test one source for me? on amd64? | 08:08 |
| \sh | ivoks: can it wait for tomorrow? i'm on the run to meet an old friend :) | 08:09 |
| ivoks | \sh: np | 08:09 |
| ivoks | ogra: could you? :) | 08:09 |
| ivoks | or anyone who has access to amd64? | 08:09 |
| \sh | Riddell: is someone working on it? | 08:10 |
| ogra | ivoks, didnt you sort it out with Mithrandir yet ? | 08:10 |
| \sh | daniels? | 08:10 |
| Amaranth | Riddell: I'm not convinced something is horribly wrong with pyxdg | 08:10 |
| ivoks | ogra: no | 08:10 |
| Amaranth | Riddell: Mostly because the owner isn't on a distro that did the kde-applications.menu junk. | 08:10 |
| Amaranth | s/owner/developer/ | 08:10 |
| ivoks | ogra: i don't know why, he didn't tell me | 08:10 |
| Riddell | Amaranth: have you tried running it without applications.menu? | 08:10 |
| Amaranth | s/not/now/ | 08:10 |
| Amaranth | yes, i just did | 08:10 |
| Riddell | ah | 08:10 |
| Amaranth | it used only my ~/.config/menus/applications.menu | 08:10 |
| Riddell | Amaranth: I've put my review on MOTUNewPackages | 08:11 |
| Amaranth | should have used /etc/xdg/menus/kde-applications.menu and ~/.config/menus/kde-applications.menu | 08:11 |
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| Amaranth | so, if i make this gnome-only for now it should be fine? | 08:11 |
| wasabi_ | ogra, what's it take to get main upload permissions? :) | 08:11 |
| ivoks | well, bye all | 08:11 |
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| \sh | ok...gentlemen time for "brain reset part II" | 08:12 |
| ogra | wasabi_, TB decides.... normally you get asked to put yourself on the agenda | 08:13 |
| wasabi_ | So I guess I should be putting myself on the agenda. | 08:13 |
| \sh | cu later | 08:13 |
| wasabi_ | I haven't really focused much on the formal Ubuntu stuff... like, when meetings are, etc. | 08:13 |
| wasabi_ | Or even where the Agenda is. heh | 08:13 |
| \sh | wiki/TechnicalBoardAgenda | 08:15 |
| wasabi_ | What just stuck "Review JerryHaltom for upload permissions to main (Java moving to main)." or something | 08:16 |
| Amaranth | Riddell: It now depends on gnome-menus. Until pyxdg gets fixes it'll have to be gnome only. | 08:16 |
| Amaranth | Riddell: Or even GNOME and KDE as long as gnome-menus gets pulled in. | 08:16 |
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| herve | houba! | 08:20 |
| Amaranth | hey, i have another victim! | 08:21 |
| Amaranth | herve: can i get your to review a package for me? :) | 08:24 |
| Amaranth | err you | 08:24 |
| Amaranth | i need to learn how to type | 08:24 |
| herve | "your" was good | 08:24 |
| herve | but missing the name "mind" | 08:24 |
| herve | I get it back and ping you then | 08:25 |
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| jani | evening all | 08:26 |
| herve | hi jani | 08:27 |
| herve | long time not seen | 08:27 |
| herve | how are you? | 08:27 |
| jani | busy, thanks :) | 08:28 |
| jani | haven't had much time for ubuntu lately :( | 08:28 |
| herve | yeah, I know what it is | 08:29 |
| jani | all the rocking going on and I am just a spectator... | 08:29 |
| herve | I'm in the beginning of such a period | 08:29 |
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| herve | I'm glad guadec videos are available | 09:09 |
| herve | now there is something on TV :)- | 09:10 |
| Nafallo | s/tv/computer/ ;-) | 09:10 |
| Nafallo | herve: or tv-out? :-P | 09:11 |
| herve | I don't have a TV set anyway! | 09:11 |
| Nafallo | herve: yay! way to go :-). I'm trying to sell mine ;-) | 09:11 |
| herve | no thank you :-) | 09:11 |
| herve | still 14 bugs in sarge :-( | 09:24 |
| Amaranth | 14? | 09:24 |
| Amaranth | i thought it was down to 8 | 09:24 |
| herve | I see 4 new open lately | 09:26 |
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| herve | alright Amaranth, I'll concentrate on your package | 09:39 |
| Amaranth | ok | 09:39 |
| Amaranth | it might change soon, but cool :) | 09:39 |
| Amaranth | nevermind, that version is doable | 09:40 |
| Amaranth | but once we get a new pyxdg out i'll have a new version of smeg, how is that handled? | 09:40 |
| herve | or just say if you want me to focus on a particular aspect | 09:40 |
| Amaranth | well, as is it should rock for GNOME | 09:40 |
| Amaranth | need to wait for a new pyxdg to make it work on KDE again | 09:41 |
| herve | I think you'll set a minimal version requirement for pyxdg | 09:41 |
| herve | since you will depend on it | 09:41 |
| Amaranth | i have one | 09:41 |
| Amaranth | >= 0.13 | 09:41 |
| herve | I see you fixed smeg being a native package :-) | 09:47 |
| herve | you're the author? | 09:47 |
| herve | boy, new packages review really needs love | 09:49 |
| Amaranth | yeah, i'm the author | 09:50 |
| herve | just wondering for comparing the source tarball | 09:50 |
| herve | hmm... do you know about the new python object model? | 09:52 |
| Amaranth | yes | 09:52 |
| herve | you wouldn't use it? | 09:53 |
| Amaranth | doesn't pyxdg need to use it for that to work? | 09:53 |
| herve | I don't think so, you're not inheriting from it | 09:53 |
| Amaranth | yes i am | 09:53 |
| Amaranth | that's what xdg.MenuEditor.MenuEditor is | 09:53 |
| herve | I'm looking at the smeg binary | 09:54 |
| Amaranth | eh? | 09:54 |
| Amaranth | not sure what you mean then | 09:55 |
| herve | it contains a Smeg class | 09:55 |
| Amaranth | yes... | 09:56 |
| Amaranth | you mean you want me to inherit from object for no reason? | 09:56 |
| herve | for catching up with python and use the new object model | 09:57 |
| herve | you'll gain a better garbage collector for example | 09:57 |
| Amaranth | is it ok if i wait until pyxdg 0.14 and smeg 0.7.4 to have this reviewed? :) | 09:58 |
| Amaranth | we just got some bugs fixed, i'll toss that in too | 09:58 |
| Amaranth | well, might as well review it, so i know what else to look at | 09:58 |
| herve | I was just curious about the code | 09:58 |
| herve | but I'll focus on the packaging, don't worry :) | 09:58 |
| Amaranth | if i get you and Riddell to review this what should i do when i put up 0.7.4? | 09:59 |
| Amaranth | just mark that it's a new version on the wiki? | 09:59 |
| herve | that's a big flaw of the wiki | 10:00 |
| herve | and why we need a request tracker | 10:00 |
| herve | as for me, I'll mark my comments as applying to the 0.7.3-0ubuntu1 version | 10:00 |
| Amaranth | ok | 10:00 |
| herve | hehe, debian/control.in template | 10:01 |
| herve | you'll find lovers and enemies of this :-) | 10:01 |
| herve | hmm maybe the manpage needs an update | 10:03 |
| herve | it refers to gnome only | 10:03 |
| Amaranth | I don't know how to make a man page. Someone else made that. | 10:03 |
| herve | I just borrowed one and changed the text for mine ;-) | 10:04 |
| Amaranth | hey, this man page says i wrote it | 10:05 |
| Amaranth | hehe | 10:05 |
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| Amaranth | anything else? | 10:06 |
| herve | no | 10:06 |
| herve | the packaging looks good | 10:06 |
| Amaranth | ok, all of that will be fixed in 0.7.4 :) | 10:06 |
| herve | haven't it the application yet | 10:06 |
| Amaranth | yeah, not hard to get cdbs packaging right | 10:07 |
| herve | s/it/tried | 10:07 |
| herve | but I'll test 0.7.4, anyway? | 10:07 |
| Amaranth | only if you're willing to make pyxdg 0.14 debs :) | 10:08 |
| herve | it's in universe? | 10:08 |
| Amaranth | no | 10:08 |
| Amaranth | i have to wait for seb | 10:08 |
| herve | ha yes, I saw him uploading it | 10:09 |
| Amaranth | yeah, he just uploaded 0.13 today | 10:09 |
| Amaranth | and we released 0.14 :) | 10:09 |
| Amaranth | well, we're about to anyway | 10:10 |
| herve | hehe | 10:22 |
| herve | pyxdg 0.14 :-) | 10:22 |
| Amaranth | yep | 10:23 |
| Amaranth | seb is too fast | 10:23 |
| herve | reminds me... | 10:23 |
| mgalvin | hey herve, when you say you resync a package with debian, what is that is being done, I only ask b/c I am working on debian packages the I would like to see get into ubuntu | 10:34 |
| herve | I diff what the actual ubuntu brought to the debian one at that time | 10:35 |
| herve | and reapply it where needed on the new debian one | 10:35 |
| herve | but it requires having archives of debian packages | 10:35 |
| herve | which I hardly find | 10:35 |
| herve | for pylint it was easy since I knew what to do | 10:36 |
| herve | python transition... memories :-) | 10:36 |
| Amaranth | ok, 0.7.4 out | 10:40 |
| Amaranth | just need to wait for pyxdg to hit main | 10:40 |
| Amaranth | i'll update the wiki | 10:40 |
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| ajmitch | morning | 10:52 |
| herve | hi ajmitch | 10:52 |
| herve | mgalvin, you got my answer? | 10:52 |
| mgalvin | herve, yup, thnx | 10:53 |
| ajmitch | mm, snowing here.. | 10:54 |
| === ajmitch wonders if that's why noone else is in the office yet :) | ||
| mgalvin | l8r all | 11:00 |
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| herve | night all | 11:12 |
| herve | Amaranth, I test smeg 0.7.4 and approve your package | 11:12 |
| Amaranth | ack | 11:17 |
| Amaranth | he didn't update the wiki | 11:17 |
| Amaranth | ok, i need one more review then smeg can go into universe and people can cheer, right ;) | 11:17 |
| Amaranth | ? | 11:18 |
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| === Amaranth annoys more people into getting his package reviewed :) | ||
| === Nafallo would want to annoy someone with his mirrorproblems ;-) | ||
| |QuaD-_ | is ooo2 motu or main? | 11:34 |
| Amaranth | for breezy it either is or will be main | 11:36 |
| Amaranth | is, ubuntu-desktop depends on it | 11:36 |
| |QuaD-_ | Amaranth: ok, cuz both ooo and ooo2 keep crashing on me when i try to use the menus | 11:36 |
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