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syndthoreauputic, because things rarelyu work easy in XP :D12:00
MalsideusJust want to get into a command console.12:00
zoddananyone a guess?12:00
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thoreauputicglill32: yes, the point being made I think is that it's usually because the hardware manufacturers don't support linux with drivers etc12:01
thoreauputicglill32: but we feel your pain - we've most of us been there12:01
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Fator_Deebeen there, done that, and now I'm going to sleep -.>12:01
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Fator_Deegnight12:02
syndtime is it ther Fator_Dee ?12:02
ablyssi was once crazy about gnome... but just feel in love with kde and xfce12:02
syndthere*12:02
thoreauputicnight Fator_Dee12:02
glill32okay, so, I'm going to install xinerama and then try to manually rewrite my xorg.conf12:02
Fator_Deesynd: 010012:02
syndablyss, i *love* xfce12:02
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glill32Fator_Dee: THANKS!12:02
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ablyssbut something funky about the kde-core files i have on ubuntu12:02
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yoorhello dudes12:02
novaflarewell theres something i realy wish i had not done12:02
thoreauputicglill32: hang on there - it gets easier !12:02
ablyssso xfce it is.. but i'm about to try out kubuntu12:02
novaflarenow i got to find the back up config and make it the default one12:02
yooranybody know how to correctly install plugins for bmp ?12:02
novaflareheh12:02
syndablyss, im not a KDE fan.12:03
MalsideusAnyone know how to edit grub options to load just a term or something?12:03
ablysssynd, i've probably not gonna like leaving xfce either12:03
glill32but I'm wondering, should I even install xinerama before I have both screens working right?12:03
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VjazHello.12:03
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VjazI'm looking for a solution for automatically handling switching between my wireless lan and ethernet.12:04
thoreauputicglill32: have you googled for , say "xinerama howto linux" ? Might be worth a try12:04
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thoreauputicglill32: amazing amount of info on linux out there12:04
VjazAlso, it would be nice if I could extend it so that my computer won't wait for a minute at startup if it cant get a connection.12:04
MalsideusNeed to get machine back on the run. Need to code...12:04
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yoorDoes anybody know how to correctly install plugins for bmp ?12:05
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nernbeep media player?12:05
yooryeah12:05
nernno12:05
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yoor:<12:05
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yoorI downloaded some plugins from sf.net but I can't install them properly12:06
glill32What was that command? dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server or something?12:06
novaflarewell the auto config xorg stuff didnt work so well for me lol12:06
thoreauputicyoor: are these plugins not available in apt/synaptic?12:06
novaflarethough some looked like it would probably work better12:06
yoorno12:06
lamp_n812:06
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novaflaresomethign kept it from coming back up properly12:07
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yoorit's just some tar.gz archive12:07
thoreauputicglill32: yes, with sudo prepended of course12:07
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sandstormi cant unload a module due to error: Module xxx is used by [permanent] . how can i unload and reload it?12:07
MalsideusCan someone give me a hand? Don't want to have to go back to XP12:07
thoreauputicglill32: oops no12:07
glill32it says xorg-server isn't installed12:07
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bkinmanTextboxes are ugly as hell in firefox on linux.12:07
thoreauputicglill32: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:07
glill32bkinman: they indeed are.12:07
danthemanis there a way i can get synaptic to install ndiswrapper from the internet instead of the hoary cd?12:07
thoreauputicglill32: wrong order12:08
glill32yay.12:08
bkinmanDantheman, change your sources12:08
synddantheman, take the hoary out of the sources.list12:08
nernhey! its synd12:08
nernhi there12:08
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danthemanalrighty12:09
danthemanwhere is the sources.list file?12:09
glill321x1 is not the correct resolution.12:09
yoor/etc/apt/12:09
dantheman(sorry, it's been a while in windows)12:09
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synddantheman, sudo gedit sources.list12:09
synddantheman, its not sources.list though12:09
syndhmm12:09
yoor?12:10
syndnern, hey :D12:10
zoddanhey anyone who can help me with compiling kernel in ubuntu ?12:10
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MalsideusIf I want to load Ubuntu but not X how do I do it?12:10
bobbydhi12:10
thoreauputicdantheman: /etc/apt/sources.list is the full path12:10
zoddangot this wierd message12:10
bkinmanzoddan: that is not a distrobution specific question. its kind of a long task to explain.12:10
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zoddandrivers/media/video/saa7134/sa7134-dvb.c: In function `dvb_init:12:10
danthemangotcha12:10
danthemanit's done12:10
zoddanvideo_dvb_register12:10
bkinmanzoddan: you searched for an explantation on the linux documentation project?12:10
zoddanmake *** [drivers]  Error 212:11
synddantheman, ooops i forgot the /etc/apt :D12:11
bobbydIs there a good description of the main features of ubuntu over other distros? or as compared to debian?12:11
zoddani got that error12:11
thoreauputicbkinman: well, compiling a kernel on ubuntu is kind of specific (debian style)12:11
zoddandunno how to fixa that12:11
zoddanany tip ?12:11
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syndno wonder it didnt work when i tried it12:11
danthemanno worries...i've got ndiswrapper already installed12:11
osirishi has anyone had any problems with sound i have a nforce 3 platform i get a startup sound but nothing else can someone please help12:11
\-bob2, it just works :)12:11
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\-bobbyd, it just works :)12:11
glill32Okay, now I'm back to square 2.12:11
zoddani guess noone has done this12:11
bkinmanosiris: this is not a problem with the nforce 3 chipset or your sound card.12:11
nernubuntu strives to be a little more bleeding edge than debian (xorg for example) and it have much better out of the box functionality12:11
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Danko3hey, guys, I was wondering how do you specify which program to play dvds with? I would like to specify xine-ui.12:12
osirisbkinman, what is it then?12:12
yoorDanko3,12:12
syndnern, i did a bit of desktop redesigning.. with your gnome-look.org suggestion : D12:12
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Malsideusnern: Out of the box hasn't worked on my laptop unfortunatly.12:12
yoorright click on the file u wanna open, select your prefered application12:12
seek205Where is the package sun-j2re1.5?? I can't find it12:12
bkinmanosiris: good question. =) Just trying to point you in the right direction. is your gnome-mixer giving you an error when you go into gnome? (if you go into gnome)12:12
wulfy814anyone install zaptel stuff for asterisk?12:12
Danko3yoor: you sure? its a dvd...12:12
syndMalsideus, hoary?12:12
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MalsideusIndeed.12:13
wulfy814when I modprobe zaptel I'm getting a fatal error12:13
yooroh well12:13
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yoorI misunderstood, sorry12:13
osirisbkinman, not that i have seen no12:13
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Danko3yoor: thanks.12:13
nernsynd: oh did you? i wanna see~!12:13
osirisbkinman,  it plays a sound as gnome starts up?? but nothing else with any other app12:13
syndnern, ive been meaning to ask you a question too12:13
zoddanhey anyone ???12:13
syndnern, http://photobucket.com/albums/v43/pmartin245/?action=view&current=6c004d9c.jpg12:14
thoreauputic!restricted12:14
ubotufrom memory, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats12:14
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thoreauputicseek205: see the bot's URL12:14
nernwhats the question, synd12:14
syndosiris, did you do the "fix sound" at ubuntuguide.org?12:14
Danko3I know what it is, hje wants the gnome  foot gone, right?12:14
novaflarethere any way to use this command to generate a txt file so that i could essentialy mix and match config information from itand my current xorg.conf sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:14
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Malsideussynd: I can't get to a console, I think X is failing to load or something.12:15
osirissynd, no?12:15
Danko3thoreauputic: you dont happen to know how to make ubuntu use xine-ui for opening dvds instead of totem?12:15
syndosiris, goto www.ubuntuguide.org12:15
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snowsealubuntu12:15
snowseallo12:15
nernsynd: ooh thats pretty sexy.... i wish i had a monitor that could support 1600x120012:15
thoreauputicDanko3: no, sorry - I don't even have a DVD player here12:15
Danko3thoreauputic: thanks.12:15
snowsealmy apt is screwed12:15
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syndosiris, http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly12:16
nernsnowseal yer apt can be easily fixed12:16
syndMalsideus, i see.12:16
nernsnowseal whats the prob12:16
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snowseali installed the base system over a ubuntu install12:17
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zOaphow do i search for new network hardware from terminal?12:17
snowsealand now i got 1000s of errors12:17
snowsealin apt12:17
syndnern, thanks ! it took a few hours to get it that way (i tried a bunch of different ways), but the question i have is how do i get the Gnome Main Menu icon (the foot in the bottom left of my screenshot) to another icon?12:17
danthemancan anyone help me with ndiswrapper?12:17
thoreauputiczOap: try lspci | less12:17
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synddantheman, theres a howto online12:18
danthemani have copies of three different howtos in my hands12:18
Danko3I uninstalled totem, let me see it play dvds with totem now:)12:18
Goshawkdoes somebody know something about the ubuntu as a sponsor for google summer code?12:18
hikaru79What's the key in mplayer (no gui) to increase/decrease the brightness of the video?12:19
Danko3http://code.google.com/summerofcode.html Goshawk12:19
zOapthoreauputic, ok, but what if I want to get back to the installation menu for the network hardware? where I can search for new hardware or manually select one?12:19
ablysshikaru79, man mplayer12:19
snowsealnern,  any tips on fixing the dpkg / apt problem?12:19
synddantheman, so whats the prob?12:19
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danthemanwhen i do # modprobe ndiswrapper, i get "FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper..."12:19
synddantheman, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SetupNdiswrapperHowto12:19
jaysunncan anyone help with this12:20
synddantheman, hmm12:20
jaysunnE: The package openofficeorg-core04 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.12:20
GoshawkDanko3: yes i know... but i wanna say if i need the agree of someone of the ubuntu staff before register a new project with ubuntu as sponsor12:20
nernsynd: lemme look, all you have to use is the configuration editor under system tools, lemme find out what its under12:20
thoreauputiczOap: rerun base-config I think (not sure though)12:20
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synddantheman, do sudo ndiswrapper -l12:20
zOapthoreauputic, thnx Ill try that:)12:21
synddantheman, tell me what comes back12:21
jaysunnwhats base-config do?12:21
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danthemanInstalled ndis drivers:12:21
danthemanwusb54gv2       invalid driver!12:21
yoorDanko3,12:21
danthemanit did that for the version 1 driver, as well12:21
yoordid you try to go in expert configuration mode in xine-ui ?12:21
yoormaybe you can configure it for opening dvds12:21
synddantheman, is that the driver that windows used?12:21
yooryou have to chose in gui, master of the known universe12:22
thoreauputicjaysunn: it's the base configuration that the installer uses to ask you questions about ... erm, the base system12:22
danthemanyes, it's the .inf file12:22
synddantheman, hmm12:22
osirissynd, its telling me to install libesd-alsa0 but apt cant find it, it says its referred to by another package12:22
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jaysunnthanks12:22
snowsealmysteriously, my sources.list was defaulted. no sources defined.12:22
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syndablyss, no!12:22
syndablyss, :p12:22
ablyssfor a little bit :P12:22
fungusking:P12:22
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syndlooks like ablyss' new home is #kubuntu12:23
synd:X12:23
ablysshehe12:23
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thoreauputicsnowseal: try running ` sudo apt-setup`12:23
syndosiris, you dont have the repos12:23
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snowsealthoreauputic,  thanx, will try12:23
MalsideusCool. Recovery mode just gave me a console (didn't before : )12:23
osirissynd, where do i get those from then?12:23
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Danko3yoor: Im trying something else now, let you know...12:24
syndosiris, http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories12:24
Danko3synd: did you ever hear or read the wiki?12:25
syndDanko3, hm?12:25
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danthemani'm trying to redownload the drivers and see if i missed something12:25
yoorahah12:25
nernsynd: ok got it12:26
syndosiris, step #2 of http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly tells you to do the #extrarepositories first.12:26
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Danko3synd: I mean, you always send ppl to the ubuntuguide, and the wiki is better, taht is why I ask.12:26
nernsynd: open up the configuration editor under system tools. then go to apps/panel/objects12:27
syndnern, spill! ive been dying to know12:27
Alinuxsomeone who uses Breezy?12:27
nernyer main menu is object_0 since its on the far left12:27
syndDanko3, perhaps, i just send people where i know12:27
syndDanko3, i dont so much use the wiki, although i admit i shout12:27
jaysunnroot@angelpro:/home/jason # sudo apt-get upgrade12:27
jaysunnReading package lists... Done12:27
jaysunnBuilding dependency tree... Done12:27
jaysunnE: The package openofficeorg-core04 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.12:27
jaysunnhow does this get resolved12:27
syndshould*12:28
syndjaysunn, dont flood12:28
jaysunnwhats flood12:28
syndjaysunn, use pastebin or #flood12:28
Alinuxsomeone who uses Breezy?12:28
syndjaysunn, what you just did12:28
jaysunnsorry12:28
jaysunnwhats the proper way12:28
synd#flood or pastebin, jaysunn12:29
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Danko3synd, just try it out.12:29
jaysunnpastebin12:29
osirissynd,  ive added all of those12:29
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nernsynd: then under object_0(which should be yer main menu) enable use custom icon, and then put the path to yer icon in the custom_icon key12:30
nernsynd: that should do it12:30
osirissynd,  still cant find libesd-alsa012:30
syndosiris, did you apt-get update?12:30
yoorosiris ?12:30
yooryour sources.list is wrong so12:30
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yooryou missed something12:30
osirissynd, yes12:30
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osirisyoor, ive entered all of the repos on that page12:31
syndosiris, hmm.. i just did this sound fix yesterday on my other machine12:31
syndand it worked out12:31
Danko3oh well, ill go watch the dvd in dows:)12:31
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osiris? :/12:31
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syndnern, yay!12:31
nernsynd :   :)12:31
Alinuxhello, how get gnome working faster?12:32
syndAlinux, add RAM :P12:32
mcki:)12:32
jaysunnI am new to KUBUNTU and LINUX and IRC, how do I ask the question without flooding. How do you use pastebin?12:32
Alinux51212:33
goldfishhmmm.12:33
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syndjaysunn, www.pastebin.com12:33
jaysunnthanks12:33
|maddox|Alinux:  getting rid of it and installing xfce or fluxbox hehe12:33
Alinuxsynd, I have 51212:33
syndAlinux, oh.12:33
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thoreauputicjaysunn: go to for example, pastebin.com and paste there12:33
syndAlinux, that should suffice12:33
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Alinux|maddox|, I like usability og gnome..12:33
thoreauputicjaysunn: then report the URL for your paste to the channel12:33
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Alinuxbut my gnome isn't fast..12:34
|maddox|Alinux:  i have 512 megs also, and gnome is running pretty fast....12:34
AlinuxI don't know why.12:34
Blaq_LionHi eveyone..in Ubuntu.. can I download aterm terminal instead of using the Gnome terminal?12:34
jaysunncool12:34
AlinuxI have installed lighter theme..12:34
Alinuxbut it's stil heavy12:34
goldfishBlaq_Lion: of course12:34
jaysunnhttp://pastebin.com/29354912:35
Alinuxand what abut prelink?12:35
alerimBlaq_Lion: no I forbid you12:35
thoreauputicAlinux: read this http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/830812:35
dooglusBlaq_Lion: type this: "sudo apt-get install aterm"12:35
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dooglusBlaq_Lion: (and then your password)12:35
Blaq_Lionthanks a billion :)12:35
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glill32When I go try and use Mozilla Update, it says I should upgrade Firefox before proceeding... should I do so with the download on mozilla.org, or will that break ubuntu's package management?12:36
Alinuxthoreauputic, thanks.12:36
TribooNsorry for asking again but i still have the same problem with my resolution and frequency it's only 1024x768 @ 6012:36
alerimglill32: see the bug report12:36
Blaq_LionReading package lists... Done12:36
Blaq_LionBuilding dependency tree... Done12:36
Blaq_LionE: Couldn't find package aterm12:36
Blaq_Lionthats my output12:36
thoreauputicAlinux: there are two others (later) in the series as well12:36
jaysunnthoreauputic, now what?12:36
glill32oh, nevermind.12:36
thoreauputicjaysunn: wait for someone to look :)12:37
jaysunncool this is ggreat12:37
TribooNi tried to configure xserver but couldn't change ist to 1280x102412:37
alerimglill32: you don't need to upgrade firefox. The ubuntu version is patched, juste read the bug report for a solution to access the mozilla update site :)12:37
Malsideusnoob question of the year: How do I search for a file recursivly through all directories as root?12:37
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lotusleafMalsideus, locate12:37
dooglusMalsideus: if the file has been there for a day or so, just do "locate pr0n" to find it quickly12:37
mckifind / | grep fileName12:38
dooglus(where pr0n is part of the filename)12:38
alerimBlaq_Lion: "apt-cache search keyword" is useful too. And you can try synaptic if you like click-and-play :)12:38
dooglusif it's a new file, then you may need to "find / -name '*pr0n*'", but that will be much slower12:38
Blaq_Lionhmm I am going to try it12:38
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lotusleafsudo updatedb && locate filename12:38
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thoreauputicjaysunn: as far as I can see , the package doesn't exist - so the error is odd to say the least12:39
Blaq_Lionnothing in synap.. nothing with get-apt12:39
thoreauputicjaysunn: are you using hoary?12:39
Malsideusdoes it matter which directory i'm in?12:39
mattlaceymalsideus: no12:40
alerimBlaq_Lion: you may lack some sources...12:40
alerimpool/universe/a/aterm/aterm_0.4.2-10_i386.deb12:40
Malsideusty.12:40
gangaleeHoary is rated as stable now?12:40
alerimthat is, you should have "universe" in your sources Blaq_Lion :)12:40
Blaq_Lionok :)12:40
alerimgangalee: since it has been release... I guess yes :)12:40
jaysunnyes12:41
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thoreauputicjaysunn: it's a good idea to address the nick you are trying to talk to: the channel is busy and it's easy to miss a message12:41
mckiHello I'm Java developer and i'm thinking about switching to ubuntu but I'm not sure about Java situation. Is there Eclipse or netbeans packaeges available for Ubuntu or it is also as problematic as in Debian ??12:41
TribooNi tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but couldn't change the resolution or frequency, any helpsites for me with this ?12:42
thoreauputicjaysunn: are you using the standard open office or the newer one?12:42
jaysunnok12:42
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jaysunnI am using the one that comes preinstalled with UBUNTU12:42
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ianhello ppl..im new in linux ...i have a other hardisk and its a windows ntfs format how do i see the files there under linux?12:42
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lotusleafTribooN, xorg docs perhaps?12:43
batma8what is good proggie to play dvd vid?12:43
alerimian: google -> ubuntu ntfs :)12:43
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Malsideusmcki: I know netbeans runs fine under Ubuntu.12:43
thoreauputicjaysunn: the package name in your error message doesn't appear in any repository - so it's very strange that your command produced such an error12:43
uc50_ic4mor1ian, be aware that your access to the ntfs volume will be read only12:43
TribooNwhere can i find these ?12:43
jaysunnI tried installing the beta version from the tar file12:44
lotusleafTribooN, on xorg's site?12:44
thoreauputicjaysunn: have you changed your /etc/apt/sources.list file?12:44
thoreauputicjaysunn: ah12:44
thoreauputicjaysunn: don't12:44
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ianuc50_ic4mor1: ok.. is it automatically detected by linux? i have plug it.. but i dont know to do next.12:44
jaysunnwhoops12:44
thoreauputicjaysunn: you've confused the package manager something terrible ;)12:44
jaysunngreat12:45
uc50_ic4mor1the ntfs volume will *not* be auto detected or mounted.. you will need to type into a terminal to get this done :)12:45
thoreauputicjaysunn: uninstall it if you can, and stick to the synaptic / apt sources12:45
jaysunnnot as much as I am confused, thank you for your help12:45
jaysunnok12:45
uc50_ic4mor1ian - you will need to specify which volume to access *and* where in your linux filesystem you want to mount the volume *to*... here is an example:12:45
thoreauputicjaysunn: when you install 3rd party apps , this can happen12:46
jaysunnOK12:46
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glill32how can I look up VertRefresh and HorizSync values for my hardware if I'm manually writing my x configuration file?12:46
thoreauputicjaysunn: almost everything is avilable in the repositories12:46
thoreauputic*available12:46
uc50_ic4mor1mount -t ntfs /dev/hda /mnt/myntfsorwhatever12:46
uc50_ic4mor1you will need to have created the, uh, "myntfsorwhatever" directory first12:46
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jaysunn*available whats that12:47
alerimian: why not just read http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions as I adviced you? :)12:47
jaysunnhow do I uninstall this12:47
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ianok thanks12:47
uc50_ic4mor1the /dev/hda part refers to the drive/ partition in question, which MAY NOT BE "hda" - it may be "hdb" or "hdc" depending on on your BIOS and whether the ntfs volume of IDE0 master/ slave or IDE1 master/ slave12:47
ianalerim: thanks!12:47
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ianuc50_ic4mor1: ok.. :)12:48
uc50_ic4mor1hda is IDE0 master, hdb is IDE0slave, etc... u follow so far?12:48
thoreauputicjaysunn: umm - if it's the binary you use the installer to uninstall it I think ( but I haven't used it in a *long* time, because apt is so relianle and easy12:48
thoreauputic*reliable12:48
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Bacheecan i get some help getting a dailup modem running and able to dial in, in ubuntu?12:48
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discordanyone know if i can install hoary witha  warty install disk?12:48
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uc50_ic4mor1and the mount point to mount the thing *to* can be anywhere u want - i just put /mnt/myntfs... to illustrate its' arbitrary nature :)12:48
thoreauputicBachee: run sudo pppconfig in a terminal and answer the questions12:49
Bacheei have that12:49
discordlike have it download the hoary packages and install from that but boot from a warty install disk?12:49
Bacheei don't know any dail-up things, though12:49
triggerBachee: wvdial works pretty good.12:49
discordI got this message today incalid elf header and my other hoary box is messed up dunno what has happened12:49
thoreauputicBachee: unles you have a software/winmodem. in which case visit linmodems.org12:49
Bacheeokey-doke12:49
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nate__how can you use apt-get to update all the packages you have installed?12:50
thoreauputicBachee: you will need soem info from your ISP12:50
batma8what do you guys use to play dvd movies12:50
Bacheein suc a case, is it possible to mount another hard drive, so i can copy the driver to linux?12:50
thoreauputicnate__: yes12:50
bobbydbatma8: mplayer or ogle12:50
nate__thoreauputic, how?12:50
bobbydbatma8: I think xine and ogle do the menus12:50
thoreauputicnate__: oops sorry12:50
nate__thoreauputic, hehehe12:51
batma8sweet12:51
batma8ill give it a shot12:51
Bacheeor do you think the driver will fit on a floppy12:51
nate__thoreauputic, update only updates the package lists12:51
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thoreauputicnate__: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade12:51
nate__thoreauputic, ahhh, thanks12:51
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thoreauputicbye all12:52
Bacheecya12:52
triggeradios12:52
syndbye thoreauputic12:52
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yoorDoes anyone use beep media player ?12:52
triggernever heard of it12:53
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bkinmanIsnt it crazy to consider the magnitude of the debian distrobution.... SOOOOO much code, SOOO much time.12:54
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snowsealhow to reinstall apt-get?12:54
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snowsealcoz its broken12:54
triggerHas anyone here had any luck compiling the Cedega 4.3.2 CVS? on Ubuntu?12:54
ianhello thanks! all i have mounted my windows hd flawlesly!12:54
bkinmanAnd to think that there are distributions that compile it all when you install.12:54
uc50_ic4mor1ian - awesome!12:54
dooglusyoor: I started using it today.12:54
dooglusyoor: why?12:55
bkinmanwhere did you get the cedega source trigger?12:55
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ianhow can i change my home directory?12:55
ianis it posible?12:56
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alerimian: why do this?12:56
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triggercvs.transgaming.org12:56
dooglusian: "export HOME=/tmp" in your ~/.bashrc12:56
alerimian: your home directory is /home/yourlogin. You can change it but I don't think you really want :)12:56
triggerdooglus: doesn't /tmp get cleared every time you halt the system?12:57
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uc50_ic4mor1has anyone else here installed the AMD64 and realized - too late - the conspicuous absence of a Flash plugin and Wine? Is there an easy "downgrade" to 32bit?12:57
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ianalerim : :) i want to point it to my win hd..so that every time i make a boot in my win and linux...i have the same home directory..12:57
uc50_ic4mor1ian - did u mean that u'd like to simply change the *location* of your HOME directory?12:57
alerimian: don't do this12:57
ianuc50_ic4mor1: yes..12:57
ianalerim: why?12:58
dooglustrigger: I'm not sure, but that's beside the point...  If he wants his home directory set to be /tmp, that's up to him...12:58
alerimian: you cannot write (and it is not safe) on your ntfs partition12:58
uc50_ic4mor1but is not locating your HOME directory on, say, a separate HDD kinda a nifty/ smart idea? perhaps not a separate HDD that Windows(tm) is gonna have its' way with, however....12:58
goldfishntfs captive is out....12:58
ianalerim: i have made it a fat32..12:58
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alerimian: this is not a good idea IMHO. You can make a symlink in your home directory if you want12:59
dooglusgoldfish: what's that?  captive?  eh?12:59
goldfishdooglus: its on sourceforge afaik12:59
goldfishsomething to do with ntfs writing, think it uses wine...01:00
ianuc50_ic4mor1, alrim: for now i need to do this..because.. i have other application that i have not yet been migrated..01:00
ianso i need to make dual boot.. :(01:00
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alerimian: keep your home directory, and make something like : "ln -s /mnt/win /home/ian/share"01:01
uc50_ic4mor1ian - if u r NOT running the AMD64 bit version, u can use Wine perhaps?01:01
dooglusgoldfish: "Mounting of NTFS devices usually works, but is no longer supported by the author of Captive."  sounds risky to me still!01:01
dooglus( http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/ , by the way)01:01
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uc50_ic4mor1alerim - but i think ian'd like access to stuff created and saved on linux when booted into Windows?01:01
goldfishdooglus: :)01:01
goldfishmake a shared partition01:02
lotusleafwhy not repartition a bit of that ntfs to fat32 and be done with it? jesus01:02
goldfishfat32 for windows and linux01:02
ianalrim,uc50_ic4mor1: yes i want to.. access it both in linux and win..01:02
alerimuc50_ic4mor1: he just have to save these stuff in ~/share :)01:02
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bkinmanalerim, listen to lotusleaf, its the best idea.01:03
uc50_ic4mor1ian - have u considered using Wine and never booting into Windows again?01:03
alerimbkinman: listen to ian : "ian alerim: i have made it a fat32.."01:03
dooglusuc50_ic4mor1: I've tried wine several times, most recently yesterday.  It just isn't ready, as far as I can see.01:03
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uc50_ic4mor1bkinman - ian already reformatted the ntfs partition to FAt32 - he wants his home directory *and* his Windows home folder to be the same thing01:03
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doogluswhat's the best way to change your home directory path then?  The edit of .bashrc that I suggested probably wouldn't work well with gdm.01:04
gdarelanyone know if there is a good (or any) graphical programs that will rip DVD's?01:04
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alerimuc50_ic4mor1: don't need to have the home directory be the windows home folder, just create a symlink as I said above01:04
dooglusI'd be tempted just to edit /edit/passwd and be done with it.  Is there a more 'proper' way?01:04
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dooglus/etc/passwd, of course.01:05
bkinmanalerim: ahh, sneaky. and odd. =)01:05
uc50_ic4mor1alerim - but how would said syslink enable ian to see the linux files when booted into windows?01:05
yoordooglus,01:05
yoorsorry i wasn't here01:05
yoordid you install mp4 plugin ?01:05
dooglusyoor: I don't know.  Why?01:06
yoorI succeed in installing wma plugin, but I  can't install mp3 plugin01:06
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Malsideusok. I'm clueless. Need help... badly.01:06
yoorMalsideus,  ?01:06
alerimuc50_ic4mor1: because when he saves a file into ~/the_symlink, it will write on the fat32 disk01:06
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dooglusyoor: it seems to play songs OK, although it hung on one song01:06
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gdarelanyone know if there is a good (or any) graphical programs that will rip DVD's into mpeg or anyother viewable file?01:06
yoortry on a m4a file if you have01:06
dooglusI don't have...01:06
glill32I think I've almost got things figured out, but I'm in need of a serious Xinerama expert to help me get this all figured out.01:07
yoordvdrip drip ?01:07
uc50_ic4mor1alerim - SORRY - i just read over your post a second time... it makes a lot more sense now :)01:07
dooglusMalsideus: you're going to have to give more details...01:07
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alerimuc50_ic4mor1: no :)01:08
newbbiehi all01:08
alerimproblem :)01:08
MalsideusOK, Ubuntu doesn't load up it's GUI.01:08
dooglusalerim: if he uses a symlink, he's going to have to remember to cd into the symlink all the time.  It would be much more convenient to really just change his home directory to be /mnt/fat/documents and settings/ian/my documents or whatever he wants01:08
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dooglusMalsideus: you just see a black screen?01:08
discordman ubuntu is kinda unreliable01:08
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det_hoary?01:09
uc50_ic4mor1dooglus - how is that done? changing his home directory, i mean01:09
discordyeah01:09
Malsideusdooglus: I can get a shell now by using the recovery mode$01:09
det_i think warty was more reliable01:09
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discordi turn my box on today01:09
lotusleafdooglus, couldn't he bind a command to keys though for simplification?01:09
dooglusMalsideus: OK...01:09
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SeroI just tried to install Ubuntu and I'm getting a deboostrap error... and something about not finding bsdutils01:09
discordand i cant login anymore01:09
alerimdooglus: convenient but not clean since it will write all the config files (which has nothing to do with his work) on the fat32 disk01:09
yonilAnyone knows how to extract .7z ?01:09
det_alot of the programs that i used in warty dont work in hoary01:09
yonil(called 7 zip)01:09
glill327zip.org01:09
det_more crashes etc01:09
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Malsideusdooglus: How do I load up the windows manager manually?01:09
discordyeah01:09
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iandooglus: hows do i do that? i will try it also.. :)01:10
dooglusalerim: not clean, no, but he doesn't want clean, he wants Windows and Linux mixed together onto a single partition...01:10
lotusleafdooglus, why?01:10
dooglusMalsideus: what if you run "startx"?01:10
glill32Is there a tool i can use to get information about my current video system configuration?01:10
discordi got some kinda weird bug now where i keep seeing something about invalid ELF header on shared libraries01:10
doogluslotusleaf: why what?01:10
discordnow i cannot login01:10
alerimdooglus: that's not what he wants, that's just a way to do what he wants :)01:10
discordit sucks01:10
glill32Just so I know what X thinks is going on?01:10
SeroCan anyone help me?01:10
ianalrim: every time i boot my linux i have to do ln?01:10
iandooglus: hows do i do that? i will try it also.. :)01:10
yonilglill32, thanks, why wont they add it to packages ? (i see its open source)01:11
Malsideusdooglus: funnily enough thats the last thing I did. "Command not found"01:11
alerimian: no you don't01:11
dooglusian: edit /etc/passwd, find your home directory in there and change it to what you want it to be.  log out, log in again.01:11
glill32yonil: come again?01:11
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discordon my laptop too things were working like the suspend / hybernation and then in just quit working01:11
yonilglill32, why isnt there an ubuntu package with that ?01:11
lotusleafdooglus, why do birds suddenly appear, whenever ubuntu is near? :)01:11
glill32I don't know if there is or isn't.01:11
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doogluslotusleaf: just like me, they want to be, near 'buntu01:12
lotusleaf:D01:12
discordanyone have an idea how i can rescue my hoary box i cannot even login to it right now unfortunatly i dont have a hoary cd or hoary live cd and the warty live doesnt boot01:12
trigger::cries::01:12
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dooglusMalsideus: /usr/bin/X11/startx ?01:12
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ianthanks guys!01:13
uc50ic4moreian - did u change your HOME directory?01:13
glill32Something that can dump out some status information about my running x system, so I can figure out what X has done with my other monitor?01:13
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Malsideusdooglus: Ok now I get lots of command not founds.01:13
newbbieI need to install a program called "gtk" in order to install a driver... but I can't find the correspondent package in "packages.ubuntu.com"... the gtk.org website says that there is probably a binary (pre-compiled) package for my distribution, so that I don't have to go trough the work of compiling the source code... anyone here knows anything about this? :\01:14
rixthIs there anyway to synchronize two directories (make them with the extact same contents) kinda like rsync01:14
dooglusMalsideus: you don't have your PATH set right by the sound of it.01:14
Malsideusdooglus: /usr/bin/X11/startx: line 131: xauth: command not found.01:14
dooglusMalsideus: do this:  export PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games01:14
dooglusthen try again01:14
kori[idiot] newbbie, sudo apt-get install libgtk01:15
alerimuc50ic4more: next question from ian : "why do I have those .xxx directories and files in my windows home folder?" :D01:15
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dooglusxauth is /usr/bin/X11/xauth - do you have it?01:15
snowsealmy apt is corrupt. how to clean?01:15
dooglussnowseal: I pay someone to clean my appt01:15
uc50ic4morealerim - yeah - that is kinda y i thunk this mightn't be the wisest course of action - i'd hate to see ian delete some of these obscure files!01:15
kori[idiot] snowseal, wtf? explain01:15
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dooglussnowseal: she won't deal with corruption though - mostly just dusting.01:16
alerimhehe01:16
snowsealright01:16
snowsealkori[idiot] ,  i reinstalled the base, after i installed a non working kernel.01:16
newbbieKori[idiot] : the driver is for a USB modem so that I can have Internet on my Ubuntu-installed computer... :) so I can't use the "apt-get" tool... (I'm using a different computer now...) any other way that I can install "gtk"?01:17
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kori[idiot] mm01:17
snowsealand then my apt became buggy, and now wont work at all. complaining about dependency's and returning error codes blah01:17
kori[idiot] newbbie, libgtk should be included in the installation cd01:17
uc50ic4morealerim - i recall one day, several years ago, deleting this terribly bloated pagefile.swp in an early NT3.5 machine.... one sheepish phone call to our sys admin set me straight :)01:17
kori[idiot] try apt-get :)01:17
kori[idiot] and if it asks for you install cd, you're on:)01:17
SeroCan anyone in here help me?01:17
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uc50ic4moreSero - i may have jumped in too late to see your question - what's up?01:18
kori[idiot] snowseal, sounds like urge for a fresh install01:18
snowsealnoooh01:18
snowsealthats the windows solution01:18
kori[idiot] err, wrong.01:19
snowsealbut i really screwed up i guess01:19
kori[idiot] thats the only solution:)01:19
Serouc50ic4more, I'm trying to install Ubuntu for the first time and it gave me a debootstrap error and saying something about missing bsdutils. It said something about burning the CD at a slower speed and I did that but it just did it again.01:19
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newbbieKori[idiot] : is the "libgtk" package all I need to install "gtk" then... (I though I had to look for a package with just the name "gtk"...) if that is so, I can manage then... I think I saw that on "ubuntu-packages.com"...01:19
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snowsealthats bad news01:20
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LinuxJonesSero, are you trying to install the Official cd or a daily build ?01:20
uc50ic4moreSero - did u check the .md5 checksums when u downloaded the .iso? if something buggered up the .iso, the burn speed cannot save you01:20
kori[idiot] newbbie, should be. and probably a lot of dependancies too, but they should be in the cd too01:20
kori[idiot] snowseal, you messed up01:20
kori[idiot] you bloated your installation01:21
Malsideusmore> Sero - i may have jumped in too late to see your question - what's up?01:21
Malsideus[01:18]  <kori[idiot] > snowseal, sounds like urge for a fresh install01:21
Malsideus[01:18]  <snowseal> noooh01:21
Malsideus[01:18]  <snowseal> thats the windows solution01:21
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Malsideus[01:18]  <kori[idiot] > err, wrong.01:21
kori[idiot] it happens:)01:21
Malsideus[01:18]  <snowseal> but i really screwed up i guess01:21
Malsideus[01:18]  <kori[idiot] > thats the only solution:)01:21
Malsideus[01:19]  <Sero> uc50ic4more, I'm trying to install Ubuntu for the first time and it gave me a debootstrap error and saying something about missing bsdutils. It said something about burning the CD at a slower speed and I did that but it just did it again.01:21
triggersnowseal: how long have you had that installation?01:21
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newbbieKori[idiot] : ok, then... thank you very much then, Kori[idiot] !... :)01:21
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alerimcopy/past is evil01:21
kori[idiot] Malsideus, ?01:21
newbbiebya all01:21
triggeradios01:21
kori[idiot] bye, newbbie01:21
snowsealtrigger, a week ;)01:21
Malsideusdooglus: Ok, exported then tried startx, got the black screen this time.01:21
lotusleafMalsideus, try #dorkswhocopypaste01:21
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SeroLinuxJones, I'm pretty sure it's official.01:22
kori[idiot] so, snowseal, its quite casual to reinstall, even linux01:22
MalsideusMy humblest apologies01:22
Serouc50ic4more, does it even have an md5sum I don't see one.01:22
alerimSero: pretty? :p01:22
kori[idiot] at least in the beginning01:22
LinuxJonesSero, as uc50ic4more poined out is is probably a bad .iso file01:22
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ubuwookieHas anyone been able to get a 1400x1050 resolution on an IBM T30?01:22
snowsealthanx01:22
kori[idiot] i guess in a while you will learn to fix things without the need of reinstallation, tho problems like yours seem quite unsolvable without it01:22
kori[idiot] and in even more while01:22
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snowseal;)01:23
MalsideusNever copy and paste while holding the scroll bar in hydra.01:23
kori[idiot] you will manage to be so good at all this that you wont even mess up :D01:23
ubuwookieanyone have an IBM T30?01:23
kori[idiot] so dont worry01:23
kori[idiot] its not a *shame* to reinstall, even if its not windows.01:23
triggersnowseal: I've been tinkering around with windows lately and in the past week I've installed it three or four times. I hate XP,  2000 works pretty well01:23
lotusleaftrigger, win3.11 is the best01:24
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snowsealtrigger its not my favorite time spender.01:24
kori[idiot] i actually remember that my last win setup before my complete switch to linux was quite stable for over a year01:24
kori[idiot] no bloatings, no crashin, no nothing01:24
kori[idiot] it just took me more energy to make it so:)01:24
triggerkori: I get tired of an installation after a while so then I redo everyhting.01:24
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uc50ic4moremy wife keeps bringing home her friends computers for me to "fix" - they are almost exclusively WinME01:25
triggerWinME is the devil.01:25
Serouc50ic4more, oh I see ok, yeah the iso file was 420mb instead of 600. Now that I think of it... the download did complete pretty unexpectedly.01:25
uc50ic4moreand i often tell her friends that i am aghast their WinME boxes have lasted that long01:25
dooglusMalsideus: black screen?  or tiny black-and-white dotted screen?01:25
triggerI'm out folks01:25
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uc50ic4moreSero - i try to make a habit of really quickly checking those .md5 hashes before i churn out a few coaters :)01:25
Malsideusdooglus:Black as night. Not a single pixle off.01:26
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Malsideusdooglus: Plus the fan picks up when it happens, indication of my laptop trying hard but failing miserably.01:26
joltzi can not get on the net01:27
dooglusMalsideus: can you hit Control-Alt-F2 when you're seeing the black screen to get to a login prompt?  If so, log in and run 'top' to see what it's up to.01:27
amonkeyfir01:27
LinuxJonesjoltz, what kind of network card do you have ?01:28
ubuwookieanyone have an ibm t30 laptop?01:28
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meuol01:28
Malsideusdooglus: I know it doesn't respoond when run off the normal mode in grub, about to try after running startx from recovery.01:29
uc50ic4moreubuwookie - no T30 here... that seems like a sorta funky screen res u r going for tho - is the T30's aspect ratio equally funky?01:29
apollo2011Is there anything I need to do to a new Western Digital hd before I install it and run the Kubuntu install and format it?01:30
Malsideusdooglus: no response.01:30
uc50ic4moreubuwookie - SORRY - as it so happens, 1400 x 1050 is still 4:3 - i have never heard of that before :)01:30
lotusleafapollo2011, kiss the ubuntu cd. I did.01:30
dooglusMalsideus: sounds like /etc/xorg.conf needs setting up.01:30
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LinuxJonesapollo2011, if there is anything on the disk you need to back it up :)01:30
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ubuntuThis is my first time using anything other than Windows! I'm currently running Ubuntu off a Live CD.01:31
Malsideusdooglus: Could be a graphics card issue from My googling.01:31
goldfishubuntu: cool.01:31
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dooglusMalsideus: the install process set mine up automatically on my laptop.  It didn't get the fact that there's an external screen too that I wanted to show different stuff, but I set that up afterwards.01:31
ubuntuI want to partition my drive into a Windows XP part and a Ubuntu part, but I heard there was something funky about the XP file system01:31
uc50ic4moreubuntu: how are you making out so far?01:31
dooglusMalsideus: ok.  what's the card?01:31
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ubuntuis it hard to do?01:31
goldfishubuntu: nope.01:31
mattlaceyubuntu: at least the ubuntu live cd works better than the suse live cd huh :)01:31
apollo2011well I have an old pc that I put a brand new 120GB hd in as master and the old 8GB in as slave and I can't get it to be bootable for anything.  It just comes up with a grub shell prompt that says: "grub#>"01:31
goldfishubuntu: do u want to dual boot, yeah?01:32
ubuntuyeah01:32
superted_im installing mplayer but getting a dep error on fontconfig, anyone else had this? pretty sure i got the sources right01:32
uc50ic4moreubuntu - u might have to do the partitioning in Windows - the XP file system is ntfs, which can be described as "funky"01:32
ubuntudo I just download the stuff and click install?01:32
Malsideusdooglus: 340m there are reported problems but not the ones I'm having.01:32
kori[idiot] mm01:32
ubuntuOk01:32
kori[idiot] dudes01:32
goldfishubuntu: hehe, not *that* easy :)01:32
Malsideusdooglus: Maybe installing a driver?01:32
ubuntuI wish01:32
kori[idiot] anyone with gaim-vv experience?01:32
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dooglusubuntu: you'll need to 'shrink' the NTFS (Windows) partition to make space for the ubuntu partition.01:32
uc50ic4moregaim-vv?01:32
ubuntuCan I do that in windows?01:32
mattlaceyubuntu: just make sure that you back everything up first!01:33
levanderStarting gnome-system-monitor on my system is really slow some reason.  And, when it starts I get a bunch of error messages like "Unable to load icon Failed to open file '/usr/share/pixmaps/other/Proxy-Config.png'".  Somebody who has that file on his filesystem can run "dpkg -S <file name>" to tell me what package it is in?01:33
mattlaceyand no, you can't01:33
ubuntuMattlacey: One step ahead of you01:33
dooglusubuntu: I found that when I was wanting to do that a couple of years ago, most tools took hours and hours shuffling disk sectors backwards and forwards, the laptop overheated and crashed part way through, etc, etc.01:33
mattlaceyubuntu: you'll need something like partitionmagic01:33
jinddooglus, http://www.sysresccd.org/01:33
ubuntuIs that free?01:33
mattlaceyno :)01:33
uc50ic4moreno - partition majic is not free01:33
jindThis nice linux-on-cd distro can resize ntfs01:33
levandernevermind, sorry, packages.ubuntu.com told me01:34
doogluseventually, I found a tool that could shrink the windows partition very quickly (by comparison, anyway).  It's "bootit ng".  It's not free, but you can get a free trial.01:34
kori[idiot] i wouldnt really count on any linux distro to touch ntfs right now01:34
uc50ic4morethere ARE some free partition tools out there for windows for free... ranish comes to mind, but they are all command line... not GUI friendly :(01:34
kori[idiot] not if i want my hdd alive after it, anyways01:34
mattlaceyubuntu: depending on where you get it from it you might get a cheaper deal ;)01:34
ubuntuWell, I wouldn't need to do it more than once01:34
dooglusubuntu: http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/bootitng.html01:34
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ubuwookieuc50ic4more: apparently 1400x1050 is supported, http://www.nuclearelephant.com/papers/t30.html01:34
synd!seen nern01:34
ubotunern <~nern@cable6-92.murray-ky.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 1h 3m 5s ago, saying: 'synd :   :)'.01:34
ubuwookiebut i'm still stuck at 1024x76801:35
syndcrap01:35
ubuntuAlright, I'm gonna go mess with stuff01:35
ubuntuthank you guys01:35
dooglusubuntu: of course, this is a potentially dangerous operation, and could possibly result in your whole disk being corrupted.  You really ought to do a full backup of anything on the windows partition you don't want to lose.01:35
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uc50ic4moreubuntu: IF you backed up the kit & kaboodle and were willing to start from scratch, you COULD partition only what u need when installing windows, leaving the rest untouched, and install ubuntu on the untouched part later01:35
ubuntuI have my personal files backed up01:35
dooglusubuntu: of course, I didn't bother, and I got away with it, but I've seen disks lost to the (expensive!) partition magic NTFS resizer before.01:35
uc50ic4moreand i'd do it in THAT order - windows will pee all over your boot sector and make multi botting a pain in the arse01:35
dooglusubuntu: I say get bootit NG and let it resize your NTFS partition then...01:36
mattlaceyubuntu: what uc50ic4more said is what i did when i first installed linux01:36
kvidellhttp://www.physorg.com/news4330.html "NEC Succeeds in World's Fastest Continuous Quantum Cryptography Key Generation over Fortnight Period"01:36
Mezanyone can help me with using the wiki - please /query01:36
mattlaceyubuntu: mainly because partitionmagic failed me :(01:36
ubuntuBah, this is all discouraging01:37
dooglusubuntu: try 'bootit'.  I've only used it once, and it worked.  That's not much of a recommendation, I know, but it was quick.  Quicker than reinstalling Windows, anyway.01:37
uc50ic4moreubuntu: it *is* a bit of a tall order to resize partitions after the fact :(01:37
Malsideusubuntu: partition magic = possible data-death.01:37
mattlaceyubuntu: nah, don't sweat it... you set it up once and you're set for life, until you want to change it again01:37
ubuntuI have my drive defragged, if that helps01:37
uc50ic4moreubuntu - i'd go buy a second HDD and install ubuntu on that...01:38
ubuntuhmm, that is an idea01:38
levanderAny known reson why gnome-system-monitor could be loading slow as hell when I start it?01:38
dooglusubuntu: it might, and it might not.  a lot of defraggers put the data at both ends of the partition.  that's not what you want.  you want it all at the same end...01:38
mattlaceyubuntu: what uc50ic4more said is what i did eventually01:38
glill32is there anyone in here who is an all-star at xinerama and could give me a hand for  just a few minutes?01:38
syndsince HDDs these days are cheap!01:38
danthemananyone know of a package that will view .cbr files?01:38
levandereverything else is responsive like usual01:38
ubuntuHey, the only thing that is holding me back from switching is iTunes01:38
dooglusthat's a good idea if you've got a spare place to put a new disk.  I'm strugging with only 5Gb for ubuntu.01:39
joltzi am getting a loopback but i am not getting out to the net01:39
ubuntuI have a lot of music and I don't know if iTunes works with Linux01:39
uc50ic4morehmmmm... i just saw a HOWTO about getting mplayer or something to that effect to talk to iTunes...01:39
glill32I heard that codeweavers is close to getting it to work.01:39
mattlaceyubuntu: i did have windows dual booted with fedora core, one on each drive, now i have fedora dual booted with ubuntu01:39
mattlaceyubuntu: there's amaroK, which looks somewhat like iTunes (has iPod support too)01:39
bkinmanDumb question , what is the package name for mysql?01:40
LinuxJonesdantheman, is that a cd library file or something ?01:40
ubuntuwill it play their funky proprietary music files?01:40
levanderuc50ic4more: can you have mplayer on Linux "talk" to iTunes on the Mac?01:40
novaflareyou could also try useing wine or cedega to run itunes01:40
mattlaceyglill32: i think codeweavers did get it to work?01:40
novaflaredont know if it wold work or not though01:40
Mezcan anyone help me with using the wiki - /query please01:40
danthemanLinuxJones: it's a comic book file01:40
levanderbkinman: mysql-server01:40
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levanderbkinman: actually, that's for 4.001:40
mattlaceyubuntu: it plays mp3s... i think with some fiddling it will play aac01:40
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levanderbkinman: 4.1 is mysql-server-4.101:41
uc50ic4morebkinman - which version r u after?01:41
mattlaceyubuntu: you just need faad01:41
ubuntualright, I'm off to try some suggestions, thank you guys01:41
mattlaceyby the way, crossover office supports iTunes01:41
levanderbkinman: "apt-cache search mysql" to find stuff like that for yourself01:41
uc50ic4morebkinman - either mysql-server or mysql-server-4.101:41
ubuntuI'll be back if I get in trouble01:41
uc50ic4moreubuntu: good luck!01:41
mattlaceyubuntu: see you later then :) (j/k)01:41
bkinmanlevander: wasnt sure if it was considered a server or not, thats all01:42
LinuxJonesdantheman, dunno dude sorry :(01:42
danthemanno worries01:42
levanderbkinman: that apt-cache command above will list all packages with mysql in title or description, server or not01:42
syndhow do i change the trash can icons?01:42
syndwith Config Editor?01:42
syndany ideas?01:43
levandersynd: there are icon themes for gnome01:44
bkinmanlevander, thanks.01:44
mattlaceyyou could replace the image in the path to the icons01:44
syndlevander, i know, but id rather keep the setup i have01:44
levandersynd: icon themes don't install as easily as most themes though01:44
syndand just change the trash can icons01:44
uc50ic4moresynd - hmmmmm... i assume u r happy with all of the OTHER icons in your selected them, and simply changing the theme is not viable?01:44
synduc50ic4more, yup01:44
levandersynd: do what mattlacey said01:44
levanderthen01:44
mattlaceysynd: /usr/share/icons01:44
fred42Hi all...I am using Ubuntu /w KDE 3.4 and Showimg 0.9.4.  Is there a way to make the thumbnails in Showimg larger than when using the "large" thumbs button the app provides?01:45
uc50ic4moresynd - do u already have the icon you want, or did u wanna browse around a themed collection01:45
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syndi have the icons already01:45
synduc50ic4more,01:45
uc50ic4morethen i'd say mattlacey's advice might be best01:45
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anteubuntu's unrar is broken.. is there any other way to extract my rar package?01:49
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ante+s01:49
Guerinit's not broken; it's that the stupid author won't license it sanely, so ubuntu can't distribute his onw01:50
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uc50ic4morethe standard unrar, iirc, does NOT handle version 3.0 rar files01:50
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^thehatsrule^ante, get winrar's?01:50
antetried it...01:50
Guerinante: there's a unix cli binary available on the author's site01:50
uc50ic4morei think, sadly, u may need unrar-notfree or something to that effect01:50
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dooglusuc50ic4more: that explains a lot.  what does the free unrar say when it encounters a 3.0 rar file?01:51
uc50ic4moredooglus - i do not know - i have only had a few occassions where i needed to unrar something01:51
uc50ic4morein each case, i crossed my fingers and sacrificed a virgin to the Dark Master and everything worked out :)01:52
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antefew? .. every subtitle I download are in rar format01:52
uc50ic4moredooglus - i also have a WinXP laptop handy for challenges like that ;)01:52
dooglusuc50ic4more: a lot of the files I've downloaded from bittorrent recently have been ".exe" files.  I used to be able to "unrar" the .exe file to get the contents out, but since moving to ubuntu, unrar has been telling me "that's not a rar file".  I'm guessing now, it's because they're version 3.0 files...01:52
^thehatsrule^ante: i dunno, but they work for me01:53
dooglusuc50ic4more: I wouldn't want to run the .exe files - it's almost certainly a piece of windows malware wrapped up with the content.01:53
^thehatsrule^ante: if not, try p7zip its great! basically 7zip for linux01:53
uc50ic4morei speculate, but has not the self extracting capability only been in version 3?01:53
anteIve been trying p7zip but the system complains on the fact that my libraries are ubuntu01:53
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anteeven if they're up to date01:54
antecan't use the dpkg tool01:54
antefor p7zip.deb01:54
^thehatsrule^really?01:55
antemm01:55
^thehatsrule^i guess your installation seems a bit borked :/01:55
Guerinante: is it free software?01:55
^thehatsrule^yes its all free o/01:55
Guerinthen you can probably build the source pretty easily01:56
^thehatsrule^try a dpkg -X01:56
anteI'll try that01:56
dooglusuc50ic4more: that was it.  the '-nonfree' recognises the .exe file and unrars it.01:56
bkinmanwtf, i have configured mysql and restarted it after i set the root password, but it just wont let me in. anyone know what is going on01:56
Pop_pa_FrEaKwhat processor family does a celeron come from ?01:56
hobbzhello01:56
r0b01:56
Pop_pa_FrEaKnm01:56
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uc50ic4moredooglus - awesome.. now.. i wonder what precisely "nonfree" means?01:57
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dooglusuc50ic4more: I guess it means there's something disagreeable in the license.01:58
Guerinnonfree means 'not free software' as per ubuntu policy01:58
hobbzAnyone have any tips on how to edit my menu in Ubuntu?  I have tried smeg 7 but get errors.01:58
uc50ic4moreright - but i just wonder what portion of the licensing ubuntu finds objectionable01:58
Guerinclosely related to the debian free software guidelines and FSF definition of same01:58
hobbzlaunching nautilus and using applications:/// is too tedious01:59
hobbzPlus when switching window managers it get corrupted anyway01:59
uc50ic4morehobbz - what errors to u get when trying to get smeg running?01:59
danthemanwhat package do i need to install GTK+01:59
hobbzlet me see if I can pull them up.(I have since uninstalled)01:59
rixth How can I find out what applications are accessing a partition? So I can unmount it02:00
Razor-Xdantheman: search Debian or Synaptic/Kynaptic02:00
dooglusuc50ic4more: I would guess that this condition is what makes it "nonfree": the code may02:00
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dooglus      not be used to develop a RAR (WinRAR) compatible archiver02:00
dooglusthere's a condition on the re-use of the source code.02:00
Guerindooglus: heh, I just was about to paste same02:00
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hobbzuc50i - Here ya go! what's this mean?  Traceback (most recent call last):02:00
hobbz  File "/usr/bin/smeg", line 30, in ?02:00
hobbz    from MenuHandler import MenuHandler02:00
hobbz  File "/usr/lib/smeg/MenuHandler.py", line 29, in ?02:00
hobbz    import xdg.Menu, xdg.Config, xdg.IniFile, xdg.MenuEditor, xdg.BaseDirectory02:00
hobbzImportError: No module named Config02:00
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danthemanrazor-x: it just comes up with some dev stuff02:01
mattlaceybye for now, y'all02:01
uc50ic4morewow - that seems a little draconian on ubuntu's part to pseudo-exclude a piece of software that comes in *very* handy now & again... but i guess free means FREE, gall dang it02:01
uc50ic4moresee u mattlacey02:01
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BigAdamhello02:02
BigAdamcan somebady help me with ubuntu OS02:02
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dooglusuc50ic4more: I think it's good to make the distinction.02:02
uc50ic4moreBigAdam - what's shakin?02:03
uc50ic4moredooglus - true true02:03
manitoba98xpHello all, is it possible to restrict a user so that they cannot execute any applications except for a specific set? This is so a user can't simply waltz in with an ext2 floppy with a file owned by root and is suid to do something malicious.02:03
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manitoba98xpBigAdam: I'd be happy to help any way I can.02:03
BigAdamwhen ubuntu logs and enters the main window, my monitor turns gren, and i cant see any thing02:03
dooglusmanitoba98xp: the floppy should mount with the "nosuid" flag, so that the suid bit isn't honoured.02:04
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takatumiresiak: Erm?02:04
uc50ic4moremanitoba98xp - could you put the user in question into a group, allowing that group only access to the execs in question? that could be excessively tedious, of course.......02:04
Guerinmanitoba98xp: either the floppy drive will be userr-mountable, which will mean it's noexec; or he'd need root to mount it.02:04
BigAdami have to restart comp02:04
Guerinmanitoba98xp: in any case; any fool with physical access to your machine can own you in under a minute.02:04
uc50ic4morewe can't help u with that one, BigAdam :)02:04
BigAdambut, is it prob with my grapf carg02:05
BigAdamcard02:05
BigAdamim using gf 440002:05
manitoba98xpto uc50ic4more: denying execute permission on EVERY SINGLE executable, even when I install or update packages, would be very tedious. Is there a better way?02:05
uc50ic4morewhat is the prob?02:05
BigAdamand my pal sad thats always problem with nvidia02:05
Guerinmanitoba98xp: yeah. Don't bother.02:05
uc50ic4moremanitoba98xp - not that i can think of, i was just unaware of the scope of exclusion u were going for....02:06
uc50ic4moreBigAdam - what precisely is going wrong?02:06
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BigAdamlike i sad, everything is ok, until main window shows, when it should be ubuntu a can se nothing (gren screen)02:07
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BigAdamcompiuter is working, i can hear sounds02:07
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DarkhoofI'm running Ubuntu off a live CD, can I access my windows mp3 files? I can't seem to find a "c:\" file system anywhere on this thing02:08
BigAdambut screen is green02:08
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manitoba98xpDarkhoof: it won't be located at c:\02:08
calc11389, 11396 seem to be the culprits now :\02:08
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^thehatsrule^Darkhoof, try /mnt/hda102:08
DarkhoofHow do I find my files?02:08
manitoba98xpDarkhoof: It'll probably be /mnt/hda1 or something like that; I've never used Ubuntu Live.02:08
yonilQ: how can i run a .package file ?02:08
Darkhoofalright, I'll try that02:09
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PetroHey everone. Im having trouble with the installation. When the installer is loading I get a error complaining that it failed loading installer components from the CD. The actual messages is: "Failing step is: Load installer components from CD"02:10
PetroSearching google gives nothing02:10
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GuerinPetro: run the cd's self-check02:10
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PetroThe disk is not corrupt02:10
PetroI md5sumed it02:10
PetroAnd the self-check does not work02:10
PetroIt's like the CD-ROM stops working or something02:11
^thehatsrule^maybe bad burnage?02:11
GuerinPetro: I've had this exact behavior from some cdrom drives.02:11
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GuerinPetro: my solution was to rip the HDD out and put it in another machine. Have you ever installed another distro on this box?02:11
PetroNo02:12
PetroIm helping a friend02:12
Gueringot another cd drive you can sub in?02:12
PetroSo I should try and swap cdroms?02:12
Guerinyeah, give that a go.02:12
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dooglusDarkhoof: did you find your windows files?02:13
PetroThat's for the help02:13
andrewskican anyone paste a normal /etc/sudoers file?  i can't seem to get it to work without *not* needing a password....02:13
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PetroI will come back and report the outcome02:14
Petros/That's/Thanks02:14
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Guerinandrewski: man sudoers02:15
snowsealis there an easy way to enable infrered on my laptop?02:15
Guerinandrewski: there's a specific example pertaining to your question in there; and sudoers is NOT something you should mess with unless you understand what you're doing02:15
andrewskiGuerin: the freakin' expert install doesn't enable it. :P02:16
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BigAdamcmon, i realy dont know what to do, im newbie02:16
Guerinandrewski: enable nopasswd? Of course not.02:16
andrewskiGuerin: huh?02:16
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abarbacciasnowseal, infrared what02:17
snowsealport02:17
Guerinandrewski: what's confusing about that? nopasswd in sudoers is a MASSIVE security risk which should only be taken by people who Know What They're Doing... not, ever, by a default OS setting.02:17
abarbacciacheck out lirc - that's linux infrared stuff - i use it to have remote controls working with my box02:18
dooglusDarkhoof: if you're still there, this is what you probably want to do to get your NTFS partition available:02:18
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dooglusDarkhoof: sudo mkdir -p /mnt/c; sudo mount -t ntfs -o umask=0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/c02:18
Guerinresiak: i should say SANE os...02:18
dooglusDarkhoof: (then the files should appear in /mnt/c)02:18
andrewskiGuerin: well, i didn't enable it....02:18
apollo2011ubuntu: I have a laptop that I put ubuntu on and I used the SuSE Live CD to resize the NTFS partition to make room for ubuntu02:18
rixthWhen I setup Ubuntu, it asked me if I wanted to join a domain. I didn't then, but now I do, How can I rerun that script?02:18
andrewskiGuerin: i don't doubt that i didn't add my user correctly though.02:18
Guerinandrewski: oo, triple negative. What precisely do you want to do?02:19
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andrewskiGuerin: have my sudoers work for my user like it used to on a normal install.02:21
Guerinandrewski: what's that, then?02:22
Malsideusw00t!!02:22
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rixthWhen I setup Ubuntu, it asked me if I wanted to join a domain. I didn't then, but now I do, How can I rerun that script?02:23
rixthAh, sorry, I didn't see I posted that not so long ago.02:23
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Malsideusdooglus: Got it : )02:24
Fackamatohi all02:24
FackamatoI'm on the ubuntu livecd02:24
Fackamatois there a way to get gparted running on the livecd?02:24
Fackamatoor any other program that can resize a reiserfs partition?02:24
andrewskiGuerin: when i run 'gksudo foomother', it doesn't ask me for my password; it just runs.  i want it to ask me for my password.02:24
AMDXPFack: not sure02:24
Guerinandrewski: oh. you want to be prompted for a password for ALL actions? what does your line in /etc/sudoers say?02:25
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AMDXPanyone using gdesklets?02:25
rixthAMDXP, No, but what do you need to know?02:26
andrewskiGuerin: root    ALL=(ALL) ALL02:26
andrewskiandrew  ALL=(ALL) ALL02:26
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Fackamatobloody hell.02:26
FackamatoIs there no way to resize a partition from the ubuntu livecd?02:27
AMDXPrixth I have it install and i downloaded some sensors but i cant configure them right to show my hard drive space and memory usage02:27
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rixthPlace the desklet on your desktop, right click on it and press "Configure"02:27
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Guerinandrewski: that WILL prompt for a password the first time, and keep the password for 15 minutes, by default. After 15 minutes without sudo, it'll prompt again. If you want to change the timeout, that's possible too. Not sure whether gksudo has some extra stupid password-keeper in addition.02:27
andrewskiGuerin: well, i'm never asked.02:28
Guerinandrewski: if you use plain sudo at a shell, do you get asked?02:28
AMDXPrixth for memory usage what would i put in the command line02:28
andrewskiGuerin: no.02:28
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Malsideusdooglus: It was all down to Option "NoAccell" in Section "Device", thanks for the help.02:29
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wartyany idea what just happened to my computer? on startup, it did a fsck, fsck died a couple times, when I got it to finish it'd found lots of errors, fixed them supposedly, now x wont start properly02:29
rixthAMD, not sure for that one sorry.02:29
rixthSomething in /proc most likley.02:29
lucklessIt seems I've broken my install -used synaptic to add usb functionality and now have boot errors (no name) and upon boot get "failed to initiate HAL". No mouse or nic, but keyboard ok. How to fix?02:29
Fackamatowarty, check the logs02:29
Guerinandrewski: then this version of sudo is broken and you should probably purge and reinstall it. But I don't believe you; I suggest you wait for it to timeout and then try again; I bet you get prompted.02:30
AMDXPrixth: that is what i am trying to figure out02:30
andrewskiGuerin: ok, i'll try that.  thanks.02:30
dooglusMalsideus: glad you got it working.  Are you saying that having "NoAccell" turned on was the problem?  That sounds backwards to me...02:30
yonilQ: How can i get appletviewer (for java applets) ?02:31
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raDeonwhat up noobs02:31
AMDXPrixth: thanks for the help02:31
AMDXPI am loving this Ubuntu i got it installed on a old Micron laptop 233MHz02:31
Malsideusdooglus: No just added it. Just shocked that I didn't find someone with the same problems in my searches.02:31
AMDXPi couldnt get the sound to work though02:32
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AMDXPi joined the forums and tried that also02:32
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Malsideusdooglus: Funnilly enough, got board of searching, startted fiddling, and hey presto: Ubuntu.02:33
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Bettzerwhats the latest release?02:33
manitoba98xpWhy are so many GNOME games suid?02:33
Bettzerim using FC3 and it sucks im coming back to Ubuntu02:33
manitoba98xpDoes anyone know why so many GNOME games are suid?02:34
andrewskimanitoba98xp: you just asked that.02:34
Malsideusdooglus: Anyways I'm off, 3am, work tomorrow. Thanks again for the help.02:35
BettzerIs Hoary 5.04 the latest?02:35
andrewskiBettzer: yes.02:35
Guerinmanitoba98xp: highscore charts, most likely.02:35
dooglusnight Malsideus02:36
dooglusyou live in a freaky timezone if it's 3am02:36
manitoba98xpShouldn't high scores just be stored in  a file which is either world-writable or group-writable (games or something)?02:36
dooglusthat's 24 minutes east of Prague?02:36
Guerinfor a computer-wide, shared highscore chart to be any use, it has to be writable only by root so reglar users can't haxx0r their scores02:36
Guerinmanitoba98xp: yeah, that'd be great for me. I'd be the top of all the highscore tables.02:37
Guerineven though I never play any of those games.02:37
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lucklessquestion: any suggestions to restore a partially crashed install to salvage work already done?02:37
dooglusGuerin: my mother is addicted to "same gnome".  She boots her Windows XP laptop from the ubuntu live CD just so she can play it.  :)02:37
Guerindooglus: haha02:37
dooglusGuerin: it may be the one thing that convinces her to have the laptop set up to dual boot - 'cos then she can save the high scores!  :)02:38
yonilcan some1 give me the address for ubuntu's extra/restricted repository ?02:38
Bettzertheres nothing new being developed?02:38
dooglusyonil: you should be able to add them using synaptic02:38
andrewskiBettzer: nope, linux is dead.02:38
Guerindooglus: the devil really is in the details :)02:38
Fackamatouh02:39
Fackamatocan I install anything?02:39
Bettzerno new ubuntu being developed?02:39
Fackamatowhile on the livecd?02:39
Fackamatogparted for example?02:39
dooglusBettzer: the next ubuntu is 'breezy', but it's not stable yet02:39
Bettzerso i was using Hoary wau before it was "stable"02:40
dooglusBettzer: I've not tried it, but count the "PLEASE"s in the topic of this channel02:40
BettzerLOL02:41
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Bettzeri guess there not far in development yet02:41
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BettzerI can wait ill just get the Hoary for 64bit02:41
BettzerAnything just as long as im not using FC3 anymore02:41
Bettzerman it's horrible02:41
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lucklessis there a channel with technical discussion/support?02:42
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andrewskiluckless: this is it; you're in luck.02:42
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Guimauve2I have a question, could someone answer it please?02:43
andrewskiGuimauve2: ask.02:43
lucklesswell, I've half crashed my install and was hoping for input to salvage it -backup files perhaps02:43
yonilcould someone help me ? I've found a thread on ubuntu forum saying they added sun's java to extra/restricted repository, but when i search for it i cant find it ....02:43
dooglusGuimauve2: could someone ask it first please?02:43
andrewskidooglus: i already said that. :P02:44
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dooglusandrewski: put that thing away!  ;)02:44
Guimauve2It is very simple.  Does the 0/usr/sbin/bin directory exist.  I made a rm -fr /usr/sbin/bin by mistake and since it doesn't show any output, I do not know if the directory existed or not.02:44
Guimauve2(the directory is /usb/sbin/bin, there is no 0 before it)02:44
llebergIs this a official support channel or is some social "chatting" allowed? :P02:45
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doriI want to set up a dual boot slackware/ubuntu, I have ubuntu installed on an LVM partition though and I've never set one up under lilo, can someone give some suggestions on how to do this?02:45
yonilGuimauve2, nope there is no bin/ in /usr/sbin/02:45
yonilGuimauve2, but now you wrote /usb/sbin/bin so i wonder ..02:45
Guimauve2Thanks a lot!  Oh, by the way, Ubuntu rocks!  I've got it installed about a week ago, and i'm totally addicted.  Before, I was using LFS!02:46
doriI should mention I have slackware booting so I'd rather use its lilo conf02:46
PetroGuerin: Hi again. Did the computer that you tried the first time have SATA?02:46
yonilyou guys, i really need sun's jdk - no one knows how to get it from packages ?02:47
GuerinPetro: nope. just plain old ide.02:47
Guimauve2no, the directory was indeed /usr/sbin/bin (the one that contains all binary files)02:47
PetroGuerin: I swapped the cdroms but now the installer has trouble mounting the CDROM02:47
llebergI have a shortcut/starter for the ssh to my shell where my irc-client is om my desktop, can i modify that starter to change the letter-coding from UTF-8 to iso-8859 on startup automaticly?02:48
PetroThe cdrom is a IDE drive but the HDD is SATA02:48
GuerinPetro: ok. When I had the problem I narrowed it down to something between the ide controller and the cdrom drive.02:48
Guimauve2and actually, there is not such thing as a /usb directory02:48
GuerinPetro: what MIGHT work is not probing any ide drivers... boot into expery, and deselect all ide device driver modules, leaving only generic linux ide support modules selected02:49
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GuerinPetro: that got me a bit further through the install, at least.02:49
PetroGuerin: I will try that02:50
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lalook, I searched google and the wiki to no avail... any idea why my evolution stopped reading news after I upgraded to hoary?  :-(02:51
spanglesontoastwhat do people know about creative?02:51
lalo(I'm asking in the sense of, whether someone else encountered this and there is a known solution)02:51
spanglesontoastlike webcams etc02:52
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lalospanglesontoast: they pretty much set the standard for multimedia in PCs, back in the late 80s02:53
SeroCan Mplayer be installed on Ubuntu?02:53
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dooglusSero: yes.02:53
spanglesontoastI mean't drivers02:53
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logickwhats up ?02:55
Guerinsky02:55
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PetroGuerin: Sweet! We tried to move the cdrom to slave and use another CD and it worked02:56
kori[idiot] penises02:56
GuerinPetro: awesome.02:56
PetroGuerin: Although, we had tried that CD before02:56
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PetroGuerin: Isn't it :D02:56
GuerinPetro: strange magic is sometimes required.02:56
Petroguerin: Obvisouly :)02:57
dooglusdoes anyone know about 'rsync'?  in particular, does 'rsync' have to be installed on both the client and the server, or is it possible to get by with it only installed on the client?02:57
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Guerindooglus: needs to be on both. You don't need to run a rsyncd, though - it can use ssh etc as a transport.02:58
cafuegobah02:58
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dooglusGuerin: I read that, which is what made me think that maybe a local rsync would be able to work its magic remotely using ssh02:58
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Guimauve2Does anyone here got a "Creative Labs Sound Blaster Live! 24 bits" soundcard?02:59
Guerincafuego: am I wrong?02:59
cafuegoGuerin: In many ways. What was the question?02:59
danthemananybody know of a package that's like cdisplay for windows?02:59
MethynutnutGuimauve2: no, but I have an Audigy LS which is very similar. What about it?02:59
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Guerincafuego: pgup02:59
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dooglusGuerin: it looks like you're right - the error message I got back would suggest so...02:59
dooglusbash: rsync: command not found02:59
dooglusrsync: connection unexpectedly closed (0 bytes received so far) [receiver] 02:59
cafuegoGuerin: How far up? I have 18 hours of missed content...02:59
Guerincertainly is MY experience with rsync02:59
spanglesontoastif my webcam on light is on does that mean it works?02:59
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dorino one is using root on lvm?03:00
Guimauve2Does the inputs work (Mic in, etc.)?03:00
llebergIn the pcworld hoary-review he mentions that upgrading to ubuntu 6 will be only apt-getdist-upgrade.. how was it from 4 to 5?03:00
Guerincafuego: does rsync need to be installed on both client and server, or only on client03:00
MethynutnutGuimauve2: probably not, I never tried lol03:00
Guerin?03:00
anto9usdori, you can have / but not /boot03:00
SeroWhere do I go to search for Ubuntu packages?03:00
cafuegoGuerin: On both, adn you need to set up 1) a config file and 2) a users file on the server.03:00
Guimauve2ftp.ubuntu.org ?03:00
Guerincafuego: thanks, that's what I said.03:00
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makaveliok i have a problem: i had gaim running and it would go to my panel when i closed it and than i clicked remove from panel on accident and now it won't go to the panel when closed anymore and i can't find the option for it in the preferences does any one know how to set it back to go to the panel?03:01
dooglusGuerin: so given that rsync isn't on the server, but that I have ssh access to the server (only not as root, and not to install stuff), what's a good way of syncing a remote directory to my laptop?03:01
spanglesontoastwhat is video4lin?03:01
Methynutnutmakaveli: try turning off and on the system tray plugin in gaim03:01
makaveliwill do03:01
spanglesontoastI mean't v2l203:01
Guerindooglus: you can install rsync in your ~ and use that03:02
dooglusmakaveli: from the 'Buddy List':  Tools>Preferences>Plugins>System Tray Icon03:02
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SeroWhat is the package name for mplayer?03:02
makavelidooglus: just tried that didn't work03:03
spanglesontoastmplayer03:03
makavelistill does the same thing03:03
Guimauve2Why don't you just compile it from source?03:03
Guimauve2I know a very nice tutorial on it, but it is in french.03:03
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Guimauve2(One of the best GNU/Linux french Website, although not very known : http://www.trustonme.net/)03:04
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blueskiesokiewhat is the deal here with ubuntu? i know that is supports my hardware and all but all it is getting is 640x480 resolution ?03:05
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beagleI just installed Ubuntu and when I boot into X there's a black "X" (x-windows mouse pointer) in the middle of screen. Any idea how to get rid of it?03:05
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blueskiesokiei tried setting the xorg.conf to use only 800X600 and 1024x768 .. still only doing 640x480 resolution?03:05
novaflareerm in my fglx control panel it says driver version 8.08.25 on atis web site it says newest is 8.12.10. How do i get the latest fglx drivers or are mine the latest?03:05
Serospanglesontoast, couldn't find packages to match "mplayer"03:06
spanglesontoastyou need to check out www.ubuntuguide.com03:06
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blueskiesokiethis is very frustrating . I like the OS and all but i hate 640x480 resolution ?03:06
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Guerinblueskiesokie: you may have chosen a refresh too high for those resolutions. Drop back to 60hz and if it works, raise it incrementally.03:07
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Guimauve2blueskiesokie: try running /usr/X11R6/bin/xorgconfig (or /usr/X11R6/bin/xorgcfg) -> it must be the one in text mode03:10
blueskiesokiein screen resolution it only has one choice .. 60hz and 640x480 ?03:10
Guimauve2After that03:10
blueskiesokieok03:10
nernhey03:10
nerni need a hand with something03:10
Guimauve2there is a step where you must select to modes for the color depths.03:10
nernanyone have a fat32 part that they mount where all users can read AND write to it?03:10
Guimauve2example : selecting to modes for the 16 bit color depth.  You can then select to resolutions you want03:11
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Guimauve2It worked fine for me03:11
SpugI can't eject my CD... It says "eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument"03:11
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raDeonLMAO UNABLE TO EJECT03:11
Spugyes :((((03:12
raDeonHAHAHA03:12
raDeonthat's a personal problem03:12
danthemanhow do i make nautilus open certain applications at a certain spot on the screen?03:12
Spugerect03:12
Spughaha03:12
raDeondantheman, you dont03:12
Spuggot it03:12
Spugso what's wrong03:12
DaveySpug: umount /media/cd* (whichever it is)03:12
nathanHi guys. I have an HP scanner but it isn't working at linux, Do someone knows where can I get a driver for it?03:12
raDeonjust use the button on the drive Spug jeez03:12
danthemanraDeon: so it'll just open wherever it wants, forever?03:13
SpugDavey: None of them are in mtab03:13
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SpugraDeon: Duh, it doesn't work03:13
raDeondantheman, yes03:13
raDeonSpug, get a new drive03:13
raDeonnathan, www.linuxprinting.org03:13
danthemandamn, that's infuriating03:13
nernanyone mount a fat32?03:13
nernanyone?03:13
raDeonnern, yes03:14
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^thehatsrule^nern, mount /mnt/hdX#03:14
beagleI just installed Ubuntu and when I boot into X there's a black "X" (x-windows mouse pointer) in the middle of screen. Any idea how to get rid of it?03:14
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nernraDeon: do you mount it with full read and write priveledges?03:14
BettzerFinally within 30 mins ill be back on Ubuntu03:14
nathanraDeon: Thanks!03:14
BettzerDoes the kernel support NTFS read/write?03:14
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ShuddertrixBettzer: Just read. Writing is still very dangerous.03:15
Agrajaglinux does not support writing to NTFS03:15
raDeonBettzer, read only03:15
nernraDeon: i know how to get it setup and all im just not sure on the mount options in my fstab03:15
BettzerDamn i guess the FC3 kernel was good at something, it had NTFS read/write03:15
Bettzeroh well im still switching03:15
BettzerAgrajag, Actually it does now03:15
Guerinbah, that's a great way to ruin all your data03:15
raDeon /dev/hdax /mnt/fat vfat03:15
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AgrajagBettzer: nope03:16
ShuddertrixBettzer: I think fedora used a patch or something, or perhaps captive..03:16
BettzerAgrajag, Latest Fedora kernel supports it03:16
PetroBettzer: The write is risky03:16
Agrajagnot if you want to create or delete files, or change their size03:16
DaveyBettzer: its experimental write03:16
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BettzerI used it for like 2 months it works fine03:16
cpdietyBettzer:  If you cacn get ccaptive ntfs to work I hear it will write quite happily, but I've never been able to get it running03:16
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Shuddertrixcaptive-ntfs is slow, but it works.. really slow, from what i hear03:16
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BettzerAgrajag, read the release notes for FC3 its not experimental, its fully supported now03:16
dabaliberal, didnt have to leave3 rigfht away...03:16
AgrajagBettzer: that's not linux03:17
Agrajagthat's captive-ntfs03:17
Agrajagnot part of linux03:17
BettzerNo03:17
BettzerIts the Kernel03:17
AgrajagBettzer: What version of the kernel do they use?03:17
Bettzerjust edited by RH people03:17
Agrajagwaht patches?03:17
Agrajagok.03:17
AgrajagThen it's still not supported by linux03:17
Agrajagand my point stands03:17
daba/ctcp Agrajag version03:17
AgrajagFedora Core 3 is a distro03:17
Agrajagdaba: x-chat, windows. So what?03:17
abarbaccia2hey all - if i wanted to move every file that ends in .m4a to a new dir, what would the script look like?03:18
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nernraDeon: you there ?03:18
cpdietymv *.m4a folder/03:18
abarbaccia2alright, but can i specify recursive or something becasue they are not in one dir03:19
abarbaccia2thye are spread out among many03:19
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cpdietyhmm, try mv `find ./ -iname "*.m4a"` folder/03:19
nernfuck03:20
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Agrajagprobably better to start with find and use xargs03:20
boss_ok03:20
Agrajagif mv can take a file list from stdin03:20
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nern^thehatsrule^: do you know what fstab options i need to have for the fat32 to be writable by ALL users.03:21
dabahey das any of you used their computer with ubuntu for long, and then went to windows on that computer for a while? it is painfully slow in windows, it seems.03:21
abarbaccia2cpdiety, i think im going to use locate03:21
^thehatsrule^all users? try to check if theres users in the line03:22
prasysme03:22
dimeoevening all03:22
prasysi run ubuntu powerpc and osx03:22
prasyserm , not problem03:22
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prasysevening , dimeo03:22
prasysI am gonna try it out on Virtual PC !03:22
cpdietyabarbaccia2: whatever works03:22
jasoncohendoes ubuntu plan on increasing the size of its main repository to include packages which are now in universe and multiverse or to provide support for universe/multiverse at some point in the future?03:22
abarbaccia2cpdiety, well, that didnt03:23
abarbaccia2i have all the filenames in a textfile03:23
nernanyone?03:24
nerni just need the fstab options that will mount my fat32 partition with full read and write privledges for all users.03:24
dabajasoncohen: um...did you read the components section of ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu ,  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/document_view ?03:24
llebergMy sound is bugging a bit03:24
abarbaccia2any way i can write a script to take them one at a time and move them03:24
dimeoI've a USB 160GB I've bought for backing up my laptop HD.  When I try to use parted to display the partition table for it at /dev/sda1 it I get the message Error: Can't have a partition outside the disk!03:24
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dimeoany suggestions?03:24
Brian16Hey All03:24
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ablyssabarbaccia2, i tried that once and used locate but ended doing something like echo `locate foobar` >> /tmp/blah ; mv "$(cat /tmp/blah)" "/foobar/new\ directory/"03:24
dimeonern hang on03:25
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llebergfirst, it works perfectly fine, playing games, watching video, playing music..03:25
jasoncohendaba, yes, i was just wondering if any changes were planned to increase the size of main03:25
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llebergbut then, xmms freezes when you start to play something, and i don't have any sound availible in games03:25
prasyshow do i mount03:26
prasysntfs partition03:26
dabajasoncohen: if you were really wondering that, I dunno, I know what the page says about moving from universe to main, and I understand the philosophy they promote, but not sure if they decided to step in a diff. direction...03:26
prasysit seems that i can't mount at all03:26
dimeoNern I'm using :  /dev/fd0        /media/floppy  vfat    rw,user,noauto  0       003:26
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jasoncohendaba, i was just wondering because there's a lot of opensource apps like mysql-4.1, openvpn, webmin etc. that are in universe03:27
jasoncohenand thus get no support03:27
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dimeoNern, wait that's for my floppy!03:27
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abarbaccia2ablyss, its saying the filename is too long03:27
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ablyssmakes sense03:27
BettzerI see Ubuntu is supporting Google's summer of code03:27
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abarbaccia2anyway to shorten that?03:28
dimeoNern, I'm using /dev/hda2/media/hda2autorw,user,noauto0003:28
ablysscan only move up to 1500 lines i think03:28
ablyssmv "foobar" "foobar2" | head -n 150003:28
dimeoThat's my fat32 partition for transfering between Windowz and linux03:28
dabaslonjasoncohen: if so, then read the last few sentences of the entry about universe on that page.03:28
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dabaslonjasoncohen: I mean, the last paragraph.03:28
prasysyeah03:28
beagleI just installed Ubuntu and when I boot into X there's a black "X" (x-windows mouse pointer) in the middle of screen. Any idea how to get rid of it?03:28
prasysubuntu is supporting it03:28
jasoncohenok03:28
prasysbeagle > thats normal03:28
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nutorianUm how do I install mplayer and stuff for Ubuntu. When I try to install anything it says the package wasn't found, but when I installed K3b is asked for the CD and installed it which I thought was odd considering I assumed it would have got it online.03:29
prasysbeagle > X is loading03:29
dabaslonprasys: :)?03:29
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beagleprasys: it stays there forever03:29
cpdietyabarbaccia2: allright>> find ./ -iname "*.m4a" | xargs mv --target-directory=folder/03:29
prasysin OSX , X pointer still will show03:29
jasoncohendabaslon, interesting- i noticed that there is a security upgrade to mysql-server-4.1 from the security team even though it's in universe03:29
prasysbeagle > try to put vga=1772 (was it)03:29
prasysmaybe X does not support your Graphics card03:29
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prasysare you instaliing it on a laptop03:29
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beagleI'm looking at firefox right now03:29
Redwraithhmm03:29
ablysscould always zip -m the files and then move the single zip file to new directory too03:29
beagleyes, installing on laptop, didn't have this problem with Knoppix03:30
spanglesontoastis there a way of editing the gnome menu that comes with ubuntu?03:30
Bettzernutorian, do you have a good sources file?03:30
Bettzerapt sources03:30
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prasysbeagle > disable acpi probing and change the vga03:30
prasysmy laptop used to have that kind of problem03:30
prasysyou have to change the boot parmaters for it03:30
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Bettzeranyways time to install 64bit version wish me luck03:30
chiwawa_42hi all03:30
prasysbetterzer > may the force be with you03:31
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Dull4o4How can i restore the default ubuntu desktop? ... is there a package for it?03:31
chiwawa_42i have a BIG problem on my laptop : the madwifi driver won't load anymore03:31
nathanCan someone help me to find a HP scanner driver? I already tryed linuxprinting.org but I just found printer drivers there.03:31
jasoncohendabaslon, thanks for the help03:31
beagleDarth_Prasys: change vga where?03:31
dabaslonjasoncohen: it is, or is not in universe?03:31
chiwawa_42i've just done a clean install, updated it, rebooted, and that's it, it doesnt load, saying ath_pci module not found03:31
Darth_Prasysbeagle > in the boot03:31
dabaslonjasoncohen: the security update?03:31
Darth_Prasyswhen GRUB loads (or LILO)03:32
Darth_Prasystype03:32
Darth_Prasysboot03:32
nutorianBettzer, it says command not found.03:32
dabaslonjasoncohen: Im not trying to help you, I am trying to discuss this:-p03:32
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chiwawa_42i really need help fixing this or i'll be stuck on windows :(03:32
jasoncohendabaslon, all the packages i want except gaim-otr are in universe03:32
chiwawa_42does anyone use a madwifi (atheros) wifi card?03:33
evaderHi. I just installed ubuntu from the old Warty install discs. I did a networkless install. Now I have network connection- how do i upgrade to the newest version (hoary?) and get newest packages for apt... Please.03:33
jasoncohensome i would like newer versions of like gnupg which can be safely taken from sid in debian but not so safely taken from breezy i hear03:33
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nerndimeo: with that fstab... can anyuser read or write to the drive?03:33
Dull4o4chiwawa_42: www.linuxondesktop.com ... or something like that03:33
beagleDarth_Prasys: I'm sorry I don't know see a VGA line in my grub files03:33
nernewww windows :(03:33
nernwindows makes me laugh03:33
Daveyevader: apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade I believe03:33
syndnern, i had a question for you earlier, but i forgot it :/03:33
chiwawa_42Dull4o4, no, it's really an ubuntu related problem03:33
Dull4o4chiwawa_42: i mean, www.linuxonlaptop.com ... i think03:33
nernsynd: yeah you never asked i dont think03:33
dabaslonjasoncohen: yeah, breezy is not so safe:), but I mean, if you are already getting one package, you are pretty sure to know which one to fix if anything gets broken, unlike what some do...;)03:33
Dull4o4chiwawa_42: hmm.. okay03:34
chiwawa_42Dull4o4, it worked, did an update, reboot, doesn't work anymore03:34
syndnern, hmmm03:34
nathanNobody knows where do I find scanner drivers?03:34
PetroBettzer: http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/rpm/rel26.html03:34
jasoncohendabaslon, any idea why mysql-4.1 is in universe? it's popular AND well-supported as the newest mysql stable release. I need it because my mythtv db was created on 4.1.11 in mdk and mysql will not allow me to import the db into 4.0.2303:34
PetroHahh, Nice timing :)03:34
beaglenathan: have you checked out the sane project?03:34
dabaslonjasoncohen: some stuff gets backported too, but, I mean, personally, I have no need for newer and newer packages, I am more unhapppy about all the illegalities, and no hardware support, and what not...03:35
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xenoscan someone help me use this file http://www.zophar.net/unix/Files/epsxe160lin.zip03:35
beagleDarth_Prasys: I don't know what you're asking me to do with VGA03:35
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jasoncohendabaslon, btw, did ubuntu ever fix the mozilla-firefox problem where users couldn't download extensions after getting the new security patches from 1.0.4?03:35
nathanbeagle: No. Where can I get this?03:36
dabaslonjasoncohen: well, tried getting that package from the backports?? I dont know why it would be there not in main...(yes that is fixed) why not just get them from universe if you need them??03:36
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evaderDavey: yeah but i need to change my sources.list dont i? it all says Warty..03:36
xenoscan someone help03:36
beaglenathan: google for it03:36
dabaslonjasoncohen: does not work?03:36
evaderHow do i switch from Warty to Newest ubuntu please...03:36
Dull4o4chiwawa_42: seems like, you've gotten a newer kernel....03:36
aguilawhois aguila03:36
Daveyevader: jas03:36
ubuwookiedoes anyone know how to fix the error message in driconf, "libGL is too old"03:36
chiwawa_42Dull4o4, no, i didn't update the kernel03:36
evaderDavey: ?03:37
xenosthere is an umbutu update?03:37
dabaslonjasoncohen: you are saying it is in universe, right?03:37
jasoncohendabaslon, because openvpn is one of the only apps i have open to the internet so i would clearly like security patches for it03:37
jasoncohenyes03:37
nathanbeagle: Thanks03:37
jasoncohenjust like i would want a security patch for openssh03:37
dabaslonwell, so? why not get it from there? I really dont get that part, tho.03:37
Daveyevader: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HoaryUpgradeNotes - its all there :)03:38
evadercheers03:38
Redwraithanyone know if there is an easy way to mount a hard drive in Ubuntu LIVE... i know i can do the fstab work, but i dont want to do that EVERYTIME i log on03:38
Redwraitheither that or can i save my ubuntu settings?03:38
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Daveyevader: Google is your friend03:38
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crimsun_Redwraith: currently you can't save those settings intuitively03:38
Darth_Prasyscan someone point out03:38
Darth_Prasysto beagle03:39
Darth_Prasysi forgot03:39
Darth_Prasysbrb03:39
Redwraithhmm, not like knoppix eh?03:39
crimsun_Redwraith: nope03:39
dimeoredwrait get/write a script?03:39
Redwraithyeah.. i installed ubuntu before crimsun_ and my sister fudged it up by formatting (i left the install disk in) so now im relegated to using the live cd.. AND MY 50 ubuntu cd sets have arrived03:39
dabaslonjasoncohen: further questions you can maybe direct to crimsun_, he is a universe maintaner-motu.03:39
dabaslonI am going out, cheers, crimsun_.03:39
crimsun_cya03:40
crimsun_(though others are here, too :)03:40
jasoncohendabaslon, why not get it from universe you mean? Because universe doesn't get new bug fixes/security updates unless provided by the developer directly i suppose03:40
Redwraithcrimsun_: it is terrible03:40
Darth_Prasysyep03:40
Darth_Prasysknoppix is based on debian , so does ubuntu03:40
Darth_Prasysi hate , when debian does not support rpm03:40
Redwraithyeah03:40
dabasloncrimsun_: I said cheers not like I am leaving, I said cause I unloaaded someone onto you again...03:40
Darth_Prasysi have to convert to deb using alien03:40
dimeoany GUI diskmanager software for Ubuntu?  instead of using parted and fdisk at the commandline?03:40
Redwraithyeah i dont bother03:40
Redwraithapt-get for me :)03:40
ablyssyou can convert the rpms to pkg right?03:40
Darth_Prasysapt-get is sooo easy03:40
dabasloncrimsun_: jasoncohen has a question for you, I think.03:41
Darth_Prasysabylss > yes03:41
Darth_Prasyssuing alien03:41
crimsun_dabaslon: no, that's for me :)03:41
Darth_Prasysyou can convert it03:41
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ShadowRagehow do I stop pppd from clearing my resolv.conf?03:41
Darth_Prasysbut most of the time it fails03:41
dimeosynaptic is pretty nice too03:41
ShadowRageanyone?03:41
ablyssShadowRage, 1 sec.. checking on something03:41
dabaslonuh? :)03:42
jasoncohencrimsun_, any reason mysql-4.1 and openvpn are in universe rather than main? mysql-4.1 should be popular and well supported and from what i've seen of openvpn development it is also well supported03:42
Darth_Prasysi like kynapatic03:42
Darth_Prasysi use KDE03:42
crimsun_jasoncohen: because the older version of mysql is in main03:42
novaflareany one avail to help me with a question (or 10) about the fglrx drivers?03:42
dragoliaBlah, All I want is to close the laptop lid and get hibernate instead of suspend to ram03:42
Redwraithyeah sure novaflare03:42
crimsun_jasoncohen: you could always volunteer to help maintain openvpn03:42
novaflareok03:43
Redwraithpm me if you want aboot it03:43
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Redwraithi find all this hard to follow haha03:43
jasoncohendabaslon, i must have missed what you said earlier. openvpn appears to be in ubuntu backports03:43
jasoncohencrimsun_, why support the older version- more stable?03:43
dabasloncrimsun_: how would you maintain something?03:43
ablyssShadowRage, the only thing i could find was "pppd-dns" and I dont know if that is even what you need03:43
crimsun_dabaslon: wiki/MOTU03:43
Redwraithso whats your question03:43
crimsun_jasoncohen: among other reasons, yes03:43
novaflareon atis site it says latest version is 8.12.10 in my control panel it says mine are 8.0.2503:44
ablysspppd-dns-- Restores /etc/resolv.conf if the system crashed before the ppp link was shut down.03:44
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dabaslonyeah, but, how do you do it, ther is an explanation how someone does such a thing? I guess in the gettingstarted wiki, hey?03:44
novaflareare their newer drivers than what im useing and if so how to install them?03:44
dragoliaanyone know of a way to get a laptop to hibernate when lid is closed instead of suspend to ram.....03:44
ShadowRageablyss: no03:44
dabasloncrimsun_: ^^03:44
crimsun_dabaslon: you work with Debian maintainers and upstream to make sure the package is in good shape, etc.03:44
spanglesontoasthow do I edit the gnome menu that comes with ubuntu03:44
Redwraithhmm, im not sure: you can open the restricted section of the ubuntu repositorise and auto install them there03:44
novaflareim on a ati 9k pro 128 meg agp if that make any diffrence03:44
ablyssShadowRage, i do know if you use a static ip your resolv.conf wont change03:44
ethicsShadowRage, why not just make the file readonly by pppd?03:44
ShadowRageablyss: Is there any way to prevent pppd from erasing all the data from resolv.conf and replacing it with the automatic dns servers when I dial up, and then leaving the file blank after it disconnects03:45
jasoncoheni didn't realize there were so many backports03:45
jasoncohenare they considered safe?03:45
ShadowRageethics: then I won't be able to get online03:45
Darth_Prasyskinda03:45
Darth_Prasys~03:45
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ShadowRageethics: because of dynamic dns03:45
crimsun_jasoncohen: caveat downloader03:45
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dabasloncrimsun_: dunno, maybe it is just a activity like any other, sounds like something you would have to know a lot to do, though. K, I am really going out. see ya channel;)03:45
ablyssShadowRage, other than using a static IP.. or otherwise using a bash script to manually edit the resolv.conf at boot... i dont know03:46
dabasloncrimsun_: nice...03:46
dabasloncrimsun_: glad I didnt leave before I read that...03:46
jasoncohencrimsun_, heh,, well that's always the case. Do you have any experience with backports?03:46
crimsun_jasoncohen: I backported stuff from Sid->Potato and Woody for years, and I've done Sid->Warty, but no, I don't use Ubuntu backports (ubp).03:47
ethicsShadowRage, sorry that doesnt make sense to me......dynamicdns....what do you mean by that?03:47
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Yoshimitsui use xmms normally but since i did my hoary install it just seems to not play and then crash when i do hit the play button. so i tried to build it from source and heres the error i got. checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp03:47
Yoshimitsuconfigure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check03:47
YoshimitsuSee `config.log' for more details.03:47
Yoshimitsuacidwolf@ubuntuG4:~/xmms-1.2.10$03:47
Yoshimitsusorry03:48
dimeospanges use smeg03:48
ShadowRageethics: the ISP dns servers are automatically put in via pppd03:48
crimsun_Yoshimitsu: apt-get build-dep xmms && apt-get -b source xmms03:48
ablyssdynamic dns is the opposite of static dns.. ( the latter stays the same whereas the former changes )03:48
spanglesontoastapplications-all-users:///03:48
Yoshimitsuty ty crimsun_03:48
spanglesontoastdoesn't work03:48
novaflareso Redwraith any ideas heh03:48
ethicsShadowRage, so what...if you put a realworld dns server...(can be ANY nameserver) in resolv.conf then its setup...pppd doesnt need to use its own dns  just a working dns.03:49
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stetyRhello03:49
Redwraithyeah one sec03:49
Redwraithdid you get what i said novaflare03:50
Yoshimitsucrimsun_ i got an error from that aswell.  Build-dependencies for xmms could not be satisfied.03:50
ShadowRageethics: ....that doesn't have anything to do with what I'm asking03:50
stetyRhow are you03:50
novaflarenope03:50
stetyRwhat going on?03:50
crimsun_Yoshimitsu: make sure you have the necessary repos enabled03:50
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dabaslonstetyR: there is a cold going around...03:50
ethicsShadowRage, yes it does your not understanding what i mean i think03:50
ShadowRageethics: pppd places the ISP's dns servers in resolv.conf every time I dial up, so I can see websites and shit, obviously, however, it doesn't honor the settings I put in there beforehand.03:50
ShadowRageso it wipes them clean03:51
Yoshimitsucrimsun_ i do have all of them03:51
ablyssShadowRage, just add this /etc/init.d03:51
ablyss#!/bin/sh03:51
ablyss# FIX's dyanmic DNS entries03:51
ablysscase "$1" in03:51
ablyss'start')03:51
ablysscat "nameserver 127.0.0.1" > /etc/resolv.conf03:51
ablysscat "nameserver 127.0.0.2" >> /etc/resolv.conf03:51
ShadowRageethics: also, it's cleared on every bootup as well03:51
ablysscat "nameserver 127.0.0.3" >> /etc/resolv.conf03:51
ablyss;;03:51
ablyss'stop')03:51
ablyss;;03:51
ablyss*)03:51
novaflarewait you mean with the restricted repository Redwraith ?03:51
ethicsShadow so in your resolv.conf put in the isp's dns/a working dns server and your local settings make the file unchangeable by pppd and it should work unless pppd borks when it gets refused by permission03:51
ablyssecho "Usage: $0 { start | stop }"03:52
ablyss;;03:52
ablyssesac03:52
ablyssexit 003:52
crimsun_erm03:52
ablyssbut chang the nameserver03:52
stetyR i dont understand you dasbalo03:52
crimsun_ablyss: please don't flood in here03:52
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ShadowRageethics: problem with that is, the dns servers occasionally change, and change with whatever number I use if I use a different access number if one is messing up03:52
ShadowRageethics: so that's a non solution03:52
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ShadowRageethics: I'm thinking I need to md5sum the file like you have to do with xorg.conf for the OS to honor the changes03:53
ShadowRagebut where would the md5sum file go?03:53
crimsun_Yoshimitsu: that's not possible, else you'd not get the /lib/cpp sanity error03:53
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ShadowRagethat way, it doesn't keep wiping 127.0.0.1 out03:53
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ethicsShadowrage....every DNS server at an ISP is mirrored on others........any working DNS server should work...regardless of what you call....ie i can use ANY dns server on the internet that i can ping with no detriment to funtionality.....only exception to this may be hosting sites via dyndns which is a differentkettle of fish03:54
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Redwraithnovaflare, there is a repository that you can set that is not usually set, you can find the fglrx and nvidia drivers there and you dont even need to install them just apt them03:54
ethicsShadowrage ie if i have 2 ways to get to the internet i only need 1 dns server and both will owrk regardless03:54
ablyssnot all dns servers are equal03:55
ablyssmy isp dns server suck03:55
novaflareok how to add that repository03:55
ethicsablyss, what do you mean?03:55
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ablyssethics, basically if i use my ISP DNS.. websites take 6x to 10x longer to load03:56
ethicsablyss:  but they work...speed is a server issue but functionality does work/03:56
ablysswell i dont use them03:56
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ablyssi can work faster by using another DNS03:57
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ethicsablyss:  exactly my point for Shadowrage...whateve dns you have that works is fine you dont need to allow pppd to change it03:57
StR34khey03:57
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ablysshowdy stetyR03:57
stetyRhi03:57
JasonFWhy is there not an ubuntu package for LSongs?03:57
ablyssStR34k*03:57
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ablysstab complete error03:58
GentoonAww so good to be back03:58
ShadowRageethics: btw, it isnt just pppd03:58
ablysssorry 'bout the flood crimsun_03:58
ShadowRageethics: on bootup, it gets wiped03:58
StR34khehe03:58
jasoncohenwhat will happen to backported packages when breezy is released?03:58
stetyRfine03:58
ShadowRageethics: meaning, the system isnt honoring the changes03:58
abisenwhy does ubuntu hoary which is released relatively recently uses such an old version of ipw2200 wi-fi driver03:58
Redwraithone sec03:58
StR34kso hows it going here?03:58
GentoonHow can I get the good sources list? can I get someone's03:58
Redwraithi have to look03:58
ShadowRageethics: like it does with zorg03:58
ShadowRageer03:58
ShadowRagexorg03:58
geppyabisen: Because it's stable.03:58
Gentoonsomeone on AMD6403:58
cafuegoGentoon: yes.03:58
ablysshi to you to stetyR :P03:58
Gentooncool03:59
ethicsShadowRage, pppd runs on boot?  or any idea whats doing it at boot?03:59
Gentooncan ya pastebin it for me?03:59
SweepDoes Ubuntu support KDE? I mean, can you choose not to run Gnome?03:59
cafuegoGentoon: No, it's a 8GB install, that will never fit in my paste buffer.03:59
JasonFSweep: that's called Kubuntu03:59
cafuegoSweep: yes.03:59
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StR34kSweep, yeah03:59
GentoonWhat apt source list would be 8GB?04:00
ethicsShadowRage, on boot i cant help you then...havent delved into xorg yet...04:00
lokSweep: on a linux distribution you choose what you'll run04:00
cafuegoGentoon: You didn't ask for an apt source list.04:00
SweepNice! Then i'll have a closer look on that "Ubuntu"04:00
cafuegoGentoon: Not that it matters, you aren't able to use mine. it's my ISPs mirror, which is restricted.04:00
geppySweep: There is a "Kubuntu" package set for Ubuntu.04:00
geppySweep: You can either download it as its own ISO image, or install it on Ubuntu via apt/synaptic.04:01
stetyRablyss how are you04:01
ShadowRageethics: I had to do a md5sum of xorg.conf so the system wouldnt delete my settings04:02
SweepI'm out of CD-R so i have to install it via apt/synaptic. Whatever that is...04:02
ShadowRageethics: so there's a file monitor on or something04:02
geppySweep: You would have to be running Ubuntu to be able to do that.04:02
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SweepJust like installing from an FTP server?04:02
geppyErm, kind of like that, yeah.04:03
geppyI think.04:03
seek205Does anyone know if there are updated nvidia drivers I can get for ubuntu cause the current ones give me slow framerates?04:03
geppyI really don't know what you're talking about.04:03
crimsun_seek205: Hoary has 717404:03
numa_I got an installation issue...  says it's got an issue with the timezone stuff,  somehow not setting the proper local it appears in the log?04:03
JasonFWhy is there not an ubuntu package for LSongs?04:03
ethicsShadowRage, not that im aware of....there probably is but i dont know off the top of my head 8(04:03
SweepSweet!04:03
geppyjasonf:  Because Ubuntu has Rhythmbox.04:03
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stetyRlol04:04
seek205crimsun_: yeah thats what I am using I dont know whats wrong then.... enemy territory only gives me like 20 fps04:04
stetyRklk04:04
geppyseek205: Do you get comparable speeds under Windows?  Perhaps your hardware just isn't "up to snuff"?04:04
seek205eh well I just bought is 6600 GT04:05
seek205and no it plays fine in windows04:05
Yoshimitsucrimsun_ could this be the reason for my xmms issue04:06
YoshimitsuGtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate loadable module in module_path: "libpixmap.so",04:06
Yoshimitsuhehehehe helps to execute from terminal :p04:07
numa_is there an outstanding issue with timezone selection in ubuntu install?04:07
crimsun_Yoshimitsu: did you install ubuntu regularly?04:08
Yoshimitsuwell first i did it through synaptic and that didnt work04:08
Yoshimitsuso then i tried earlier from source04:08
Yoshimitsuand that didnt go well either04:08
crimsun_you installed ubuntu through synaptic?04:08
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GentoonDo i need to use different repositories for AMD64 bit version of Ubuntu?04:09
Yoshimitsuno sorry04:09
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Yoshimitsui meant xmms through synaptic04:09
Yoshimitsuubuntu i install from warty then blew everything away and installed hoary04:09
crimsun_Gentoon: the standard ubuntu ones are correct04:09
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Yoshimitsuit used to work fine before04:09
Yoshimitsuin warty i mean04:10
crimsun_Yoshimitsu: so why are you compiling xmms?04:10
Yoshimitsubecause since i installed hoary its never worked04:10
Yoshimitsuand this happened before and after it was released. i tried hoary before the release date and after and both times xmms failed to work04:11
GentoonAnyone here running 64bit version of Ubuntu?04:11
thundrcleezeGentoon, some programs are amd64 optimized, choose those if you see them, but there aren't many.04:11
sevetsi am looking for a bento box04:11
Gentoonthundrcleeze: what about mplayer and realplayer?04:11
crimsun_Yoshimitsu: "failed to work"?04:12
Yoshimitsuyes meaning i can run it and load a song but when i hit play it freezes and then i have to kill it from the terminal using kill pid!04:12
synd!seen nern04:12
novaflarehow would i check my xorg fglrx version number ?04:12
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crimsun_Yoshimitsu: no, there was nothing wrong04:13
beagleWhere is the application menu stored in Ubuntu. I'm trying to get Window Maker to find them to generate the drop down menus.04:13
crimsun_Yoshimitsu: you were supposed to switch the output plugin to esound if you were using the default ubuntu settings04:13
Yoshimitsui did04:14
ethicsYoshimitsu, what output for video and sound?  xv & alsa?04:14
Yoshimitsu;)04:14
Yoshimitsualsa04:14
Yoshimitsuim running Ubutnu PPC04:14
thundrcleezeGentoon, I don't see any amd-64 specific packages for those; use the amd packages if you see them04:14
GentoonDoes the sources list on the starter guide work for amd64?04:14
syndYoshimitsu, on what?04:14
thundrcleezeGentoon, yes.04:14
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YoshimitsuApple G4 Powerbook 15 alum04:14
Gentooncause synaptic comes up with alotta errors04:14
crimsun_Yoshimitsu: did it work with the oss output if you pkilled esd?04:14
syndYoshimitsu, 1.33Ghz04:15
synd?04:15
Yoshimitsuyes synd04:15
syndnice04:15
thundrcleezeGentoon, the standard packages should work; generally the amd64-specific ones I assume would only be optimizations.04:15
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Yoshimitsuwell i can remember something before where some other service was grabbing the sound before ESD did04:15
masswill there ever be more ubuntu calendar packages? :)04:15
crimsun_Yoshimitsu: alsa ppc support is lacking up through 1.0.804:16
crimsun_1.0.9 is much improved04:16
llebergIs there any way of getting the flashplayer working on the 64bit ubuntu? :)04:16
Yoshimitsuoh ok04:16
Darth_Prasysbbl04:16
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massand, is there a way without reinstalling to revert out breezy, or am I better off waiting it out at this point? :D04:16
crimsun_mass: man apt_preferences04:17
crimsun_mass: pin hoary to >100004:17
Yoshimitsuok i fixed it04:17
Yoshimitsu:)04:17
novaflarehow would one upgrade to breezy from horay or can you ?04:17
Yoshimitsuand all it took was a check of what was using the sound daemon04:17
Yoshimitsusilly me04:17
Yoshimitsuthanks for the help guys04:17
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ethics!ein Yoshimitsu04:18
ubotuI haven't a clue, ethics04:18
Yoshimitsuhehehe04:18
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idle-jej04:20
arcticbluei keep getting an error when trying to compile transcode.  is there any place where i can get a binary ubuntu package for it?04:22
arcticbluedebian packages of transcode are incompatible with ubuntu04:22
crimsun_there are probably packages in ubp04:22
arcticbluenegative04:23
crimsun_then pull down the source and build-deps and compile it locally04:23
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arcticbluethat's what i'm doing now, but it fails. it complains abotu libavcodec and something about vorbis04:23
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arcticblue/usr/lib/libavcodec.a(oggvorbis.o)(.text+0x46): In function `oggvorbis_encode_init':04:24
arcticblue: undefined reference to `vorbis_encode_init'04:24
Gentoonwhats he best music player for windows, something like winamp04:24
GentoonI mean for linux04:24
Gentoonlol04:24
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arcticbluei've tried building libavcodec from source...doesn't help04:25
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seek205Gentoon: I like amaroK04:25
arcticblueGentoon: personally, i use xmms, but there are others too04:25
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i3dmasterset04:26
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crimsun_arcticblue: libavcodec needs to be fixed; check upstream04:26
arcticbluespeaking of mp3 players...is there anything like music match?  i know there's rhythmbox, but it doesn't sync up to my mp3 player.  i have to add everything in there and when i do that, it still shows up when i remove my mp3 player.04:27
arcticbluecrimsun_: upstream?04:27
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ianhello ppl..04:27
crimsun_upstream being the developers' site04:27
stetyRhi04:27
stetyRlol04:27
ianhow do i install java runtime for my firefox?04:27
crimsun_ian: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats04:28
arcticbluecrimsun_: url please04:28
stetyRi have problen which IRC04:28
llebergstetyR: What about it?04:28
crimsun_arcticblue: just google for it04:29
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stetyRfine Irc NO CONEC04:30
fazerHello, how do I access my primary partition which has another OS on it?04:31
iani cant find java runtime..in my repo..what would be the name..pls?04:31
ianhow do i apt get java runtime?04:31
crimsun_ian: did you follow the link for jre on that url?04:31
Pop_pa_FrEaKhmmm can't seem to close a webbrowser page04:31
iancrimsum: i followed the prebuilt for ubuntu..04:32
ianbut its warty..04:32
ianim really new in linux..04:32
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ianim using hoary04:32
iancrimsun: ill try again..04:32
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crimsun_ian: use the make-jpkg instructions04:33
Pop_pa_FrEaKian, try going here http://ubuntuguide.org/04:33
Gentoonman my apt is broken allready04:33
Gentooncan someone help me?04:33
Gentoonif i try to install somerthing it says i have all these unmet dependencies and it wont install them?04:34
crimsun_Gentoon: what are you trying to install?04:34
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Gentoonit doesnt matter any thing i install it says it04:34
jbalintHi, if I try to mount something on a loopback device, it fails, but shows 1 reference to the loop module (2.6), why is there still 1 reference if it fails?04:34
Gentooni tried mplayer04:35
fazercrimsun_: do you know how to mount my other parition? I get permission denied errors when I cd into the access point.04:35
crimsun_Gentoon: then just apt-get -f install04:35
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crimsun_fazer: what type of partition?04:35
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Daveyfazer: and as what user?04:36
fazercrimsun_: I believe its NTFS.  I just want to access it.04:36
fazerDavey: I use sudo04:36
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jbalintfazer: You need to a) be root b) mount with uid option04:36
crimsun_fazer: you need to pass umask options to mount04:36
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Daveyfazer: hmm04:36
inva|idWhat is the hotkey sequence to close an XFCE session?04:36
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Daveytry sudo su, then cd, I have had too many issues with sudo and cd ;)04:36
Dull4o4how can i get a nice boot splash?04:36
jbalintcrimsun_: Is the umask override in the NTFS driver? I can't remember the exact behaviour....04:36
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Dull4o4wtf sudo su? :S04:37
crimsun_jbalint: umask=02204:37
FlyingSquirrel32I got this error when trying to run an SDL based game called freedroidRPG04:37
FlyingSquirrel32Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".04:37
Gentoontry 'sudo passwd'04:37
fazercrimsun_: umask?04:37
fazeroh04:37
Gentooncrimsun_: Ill show ya what apt is saying when i try to install something04:38
jbalintcrimsun_: Ok, just checked the code, it sets default then parses the mount options. :-)04:38
Gentoonill pm ya ok?04:38
i3dmasterI am having a hard time to remove some pkgs. "Error: 510mod_dynvhost.info does not have a valid LoadModule entry.dpkg: error processing libapache-mod-dav (--purge): subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 20" I cannot even remove them. What should I do?04:38
JasonFWhat kind of file manager apps are there that are alternatives to Nautilus (I'm looking for a konq-like, but GTK2)04:38
Dull4o4i3dmaster: what is the name of the package?04:38
crimsun_Gentoon: no, use #flood04:39
chiwawa_42JasonF, gnome users are leet, they don't need a file manager04:39
fazercrimsun_: how do I make it so that my windows partition is mounted upon boot up?04:39
Dull4o4chiwawa_42: heard of nautilus?04:39
i3dmasterDull4o4: several of those, all related to apache. libapache-mod-dav, libapache-mod-chroot, libapache-mod-layout, libapache-mod-musicindex, libapache-mod-auth-plain04:39
JasonFchiwawa_42: I'm asking for a friend, meh04:39
chiwawa_42if you're a normal guy, use KDE04:39
jakyraHi, we newly installed Ubuntu as a dual boot on a dell optiplex and we are having trouble with our wireless. We've got a Trendnet card that Ubuntu detects and we get full signal but we can't use the internet. Pings timeout. We tried to go in and change the settings on the network card, but it's all greyed out and we don't know what the "administrator mode" password is. I've looked on the website and I remember seeing something about it b04:39
crimsun_fazer: put the correct entry in /etc/fstab04:39
JasonFOkay, lets ust run a </troll> and see if I can get an answer to my question: file manager apps are there that are alternatives to Nautilus (GTK2, like konq)04:40
chiwawa_42Dull4o4, nautilus works like my old 84's mac, i rather like an evolved file manager04:40
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fazercrimsun_: ah okay04:40
Dull4o4chiwawa_42: i use konqueror :P04:40
chiwawa_42konqui does the job04:40
Gentooncrimsun_: here http://pastebin.com/29363104:41
crimsun_JasonF: rox-filer04:41
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Dull4o4i3dmaster: apt-get remove --purge <whatever> gives you that error?04:41
Pop_pa_FrEaKbrb everyone04:41
Gentoonill get my source list as well04:41
Dull4o4rox filer sux.. :)04:41
i3dmasterDull4o4: exactly04:42
ethicsJasonF,  not sure what xfm runs on...its xfce4's fm04:42
Gentooncrimsun_: here is my source list, btw im on AMD6404:42
JasonFethics: xfce4 is gtk2 based04:42
Dull4o4i3dmaster: is it running?04:42
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i3dmasterDull4o4: what is running?04:42
llebergOh..04:43
crimsun_Gentoon: what do you want me to look at?04:43
Gentooncrimsun_: ya there?04:43
Dull4o4i3dmaster: httpd or whatever it is called.... are you root when you try to remove them btw?04:43
llebergHow do i get a codec for .mod and .nsf for xmms?04:43
Gentoonwhy is my apt broken?04:43
ethicsJasonF, heh i learnt something today 8)04:43
i3dmasterDull4o4: no, but I don't think that's related. Yes, I am doing it as root04:43
Dull4o4i3dmaster: try installing it again, and then remove... i dont know what else :s04:44
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Gentooncrimsun_: Thats what it says everytime i try to use apt to install anything, is it cause im on a 64?04:44
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ianhow can i add synaptic im my menu?04:44
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i3dmasterDull4o4: the bad is without getting them sqaured away, I am not able to install any new pkgs04:44
Gentoonit is in yout menu04:44
ianGentoon: where?04:44
Gentoonsystem, administration, synaptic04:44
Gentoonsee it?04:45
i3dmasterDull4o4: tried many times already. anyway thanks04:45
iangentoon: yes..thanks!04:45
Gentoonnp04:45
crimsun_Gentoon: you have to use the amd64 mirror of debian-marillat's testing04:45
Zoohousehello everyone. How do I find out what package includes libdl.so.2??? I need libdl.so.2 for somethign I would like to compile.04:45
Gentoonnow can someone help me with my apt?04:45
Dull4o4i3dmaster: there is an "overwrite" option for apt....04:45
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Dull4o4i3dmaster: re-install.. i mean04:45
jakyraHow do I get the password for the "administrator mode"04:45
Gentooncrimsun_: i think i am using the mallirant one04:45
arcticblueok, i can't find upstream anywhere.  i can only find references to it and a slashdot article on Grumpy Groundhog04:45
crimsun_Zoohouse: you already have that04:45
i3dmasterDull4o4: they had problem on installation actually, that's why I am getting rid of them but the removal is also having issue04:45
Gentoonwhere can i find them?04:45
crimsun_Gentoon: debian.video.free.fr04:46
Zoohousecrimsun_: sh: error while loading shared libraries: libdl.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory04:46
Gentoonjakyra: its called root04:46
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i3dmasterDull4o4: no, they seems having problems and apt cannot configure them04:46
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ZoohouseI am running Ubunutu 5.04 64bit04:47
craksanyone use ibook here04:47
seek205Does anyone else have problems playing ET on a nvidia card??? I get horrid framerates!04:47
Dull4o4i3dmaster: im out of ideas... or you could try dpkg directly, or aptitude...04:47
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Zoohousejakyra: what is your question?04:47
i3dmasterDull4o4: tried too. I am out of mind either04:47
i3dmasterDull4o4: I am hoping someone here better than me can give some tips...04:48
Gentooncrimsun_: i have that one it the last one in my sources? do i need to use the debian 64bit mirror's as well?04:49
Zoohousecrimsun_: what can my problem be?04:49
Dull4o4i3dmaster: rm :)04:49
GentoonZoohouse: Me too, man did ya get apt working?04:49
jakyraZoohouse: We're trying to edit the network settings and it's all greyed out. When we click on the "administrator mode" button it asks for a password. We enter the password we entered when we installed but it doesn't do anything04:49
crimsun_Zoohouse: are you using any external repos?04:49
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crimsun_Gentoon: yes04:49
Zoohousecrimsun_: yes the universe04:49
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crimsun_Zoohouse: non-ubuntu ones, I mean04:50
ZoohouseGentoon: apt works fine04:50
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Zoohousecrimsun_: i am using the ones that are in the config file.04:50
discord_anyone know the key sequence to change resolution in gnome04:50
Zoohousecrimsun_: I just uncommented them04:50
Gentooncrimsun_: do i need to delete any of the one in my sources list or just add the debian ones?04:50
Gentooni used the one from the faq04:50
Zoohousejakyra: you are using kubuntu?04:50
crimsun_Gentoon: I don't know what's in your /etc/apt/sources.list04:51
jakyraYes.04:51
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Zoohousejakyra: tell me what you are trying to edit so I may try it on my side04:51
Gentooncrimsun_: I pastebined it, i used the example from the faq04:52
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Gentooncrimsun_: http://pastebin.com/29363204:52
iancan somebdy tell how to let my thunderbird mail when ever i close it. it just go to the upper right corner..icon like gaim..04:52
ZoohouseGentoon: Go here: http://paste.lisp.org/new and post there your /etc/apt/sources.list then give us the link04:53
jakyraZoohouse: KDE Control Center> Wireless Network - It's all greyed out.04:53
crimsun_Gentoon: unstable->testing04:53
crimsun_Gentoon: there's more info on the wiki. I have to go.04:53
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Zoohousejakyra: Works just fine on my side04:54
discord_i got a problem with my video i have the nvidia driver installed and it looks like i have all sorts of modes including the one I want to use but gnome will only let me select 640x480 in its System menu. Does anybody know why it isnt working?04:54
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Zoohousejakyra: open the terminal and type sudo kcontrol04:56
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arcticblueok, i can't find upstream anywhere.  i can only find references to it and a slashdot article on Grumpy Groundhog04:56
Zoohousediscord: when you restart your PC do you see the nvidia splash screen?04:56
discord_yeah04:56
Zoohousenot sure...04:57
discord_thanks for asking04:57
ZoohouseHow do I find out what package includes libdl.so.2??? I need libdl.so.2 for somethign I would like to compile.04:57
Zoohousediscord: sorry couldn't help more04:57
Zoohousediscord: did you edit your xorg config file?04:58
arcticblueZoohouse: does the gnome system resolution thing pull from xorg.conf?04:58
ZoohouseGentoon: are you done yet?04:58
arcticblueZoohouse: guess, we were thinking the same thing04:58
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ethicsZoo:  apt-cache has an option for it04:58
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doriwhat's this ubuntu-desktop and why does it depend on every package I want to remove?04:59
ianwhat folder is gaim installed i mean its binary file?04:59
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discord_Zoohouse, it looks good to me04:59
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ZoohouseNot sure, but doesn't hurt to try, although if the splashscreen pops up it should be configured correctly..04:59
GentoonCan someone in here that has setup good repos with AMD64 Ubuntu help me plz?04:59
lowluxwhat up04:59
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ZoohouseGentoon: Go here: http://paste.lisp.org/new and post there your /etc/apt/sources.list then give us the link04:59
Pop_pa_FrEaKwhat is it with all the good video sites are now using windows media player for streaming04:59
lowluxi never see that05:00
ZoohouseGentoon: once you do that we can see the sources.list and make sure it is correct05:00
discord_man this is a nightmare im stuck in 640x48005:00
lowluxi use the mac player faster05:00
ZoohouseBy the way, I need to back up a DVD. What apps do I use for this?05:00
arcticblueZoohouse: dvdbackup05:01
Pop_pa_FrEaKa movie dvd ?05:01
ZoohouseDVD movie tho05:01
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Zoohouseyea05:01
discord_Zoohouse, i put my xorg.conf file here maybe you can see something I don't05:01
discord_http://pastebin.com/29363705:01
ethicszoohouse dvdbackup..05:01
ethicsZoohouse, its a creative name i know05:01
Zoohousedvdbackup does movie dvds also?05:01
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arcticblueZoohouse: like i said, dvdbackup.  i'm trying to get dvdrip to work, but transcode is being a pain because libavcodec (ffmpeg) is being retarded.05:01
lowluxman look at all the noobs05:01
arcticblueZoohouse: yes05:01
Marble2in nautilius, when I browse to smb:///05:02
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Marble2is that a samba share, or what does the smb stand for?05:02
ethicszoo:  sure does....05:02
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Zoohousearcticblue: i realy hope it works.. :D05:02
ethicszoo:  points at 500gb of dvd vob files hes going to transcode one day05:02
amonkeywhat's the best way to get control of all the buttons on a razer diamondback? there seems to be a lot of disagreement.05:02
GentoonAnyone in here running Amd64 version of Ubuntu?05:02
brendan_ok imtrying to set up a server and i need to change the routers dmz settings... the router is asking me for my computers network ip... how do i find this out??05:02
arcticblueZoohouse: yes, dvdbackup works pretty good.  you can use vlc to play the movie back.  it doesn't compress them.  it pulls the vob files right off the dvd.  dvdrip will rip and compress it, but ubuntu won't install it.05:03
ethicsMarble2, smb:// = sambashares05:03
Marble2ethics: are you sure? does windows use samba?05:03
naliotharcticblue: i have slept, were we discussing something of import?05:03
lowluxevery one im sure you can find it on google!!!!!!!!!!!!05:03
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lowluxGOOGLE!!!!!05:03
ethicszoohouse....acidrip can make then 700 Mb divx/xvid stuff i think05:03
Zoohousearcticblue: ah ok. I just need to put it on another DVD and thats all05:03
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brendan_ok imtrying to set up a server and i need to change the routers dmz settings... the router is asking me for my computers network ip... how do i find this out??05:04
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naliothbrendan_: ifconfig05:04
arcticbluenalioth: i think the last thing we were talking about is how badly the military handles their computers...and taxis05:04
naliotharcticblue: yes, the taxi version of win2k will never grace my hack05:05
mngrif_i got sent four ubuntu CDs and all of them fail on installing python2.4, says it can't be validated and indeed, the md5sums don't match. what gives? any workarounds?05:05
naliothmngrif_: the landfill doesnt care about md505:05
brendan_nalioth: ty05:05
Marble2I have a samba share setup that I can view on this computer, but what would the link to it be in windows?05:06
mngrif_nalioth: well, i think it's odd that i have sitting infront of me four defective printed copies05:06
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ethicsMarble2 sure does.....in the control paney you can set domains and usernames etc you use as default05:06
ethicsMarble on windows open up explorer and in the addressbar do \\IPADRESS/NAME\05:07
naliothmngrif_: it happens05:07
Marble2huh05:07
Marble2\\GREG gets permission denied05:07
mngrif_nalioth: know of a potential workaround?05:07
Marble2but smb:///GREG works fine05:07
Marble2from this machine05:07
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Zoohousearcticblue: -o directory    where directory is your backup target  <---- is that the TEMP dir?05:07
naliothmngrif_: rip your cd, and then d/l the torrent. it will "fix" it05:08
Marble2I get permission errors...05:08
ethicsMarble its not an open share youll have to pass username and password.05:08
naliothmngrif_: do u catch the drift that i'm babbling about?05:08
Marble2how do I give the username and password in the line05:08
mngrif_nalioth: yeah, but doesn't help me one bit. no way to burn05:08
naliothmngrif_: well. that is a problem. nobody u know has a usb/fw burner?05:09
arcticblueZoohouse:  -o <folder you want the movie to go to>05:09
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mngrif_although i do have a spare drive i can have the iso sitting on if the ubuntu installer supports that like the debian one does (or loopback devices).. and you assume too much that i even have a usb port on this box :P05:09
naliothmngrif_: sorry, i assume >3 years old05:10
Zoohousearcticblue: so i run dvdbackup -i <path> -o <path> and its going to rip the movie to that dir and then after it is rip it will burn it onto another DVD or will I need anther apps?05:10
Zoohouseapp*05:10
mngrif_actually this thing does have USB, but i've never had the pleasure of finding a riser card to tie into it... and the newest computer i have is.. 8 years old :)05:10
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naliothmngrif_: you are THE man!05:11
mngrif_i'm a sucker for old hardware05:11
mngrif_isa rox :P05:11
Marble2anyone know why my samba share is getting permission errors when I try to access it from my windows machine?05:11
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discord_anyone know where i set the frequency for my lcd, I thought it was in the xorg.conf file but dont seem to see it there05:11
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arcticbluezoohouse: that'll do it...but your movie will be huge (several gigs).  if you want to compress it, you'll need another program.  that's what i'm trying to find now05:11
Zoohouseit will be fine since i just need to do this one backup05:12
doriargg, I'm trying to install some packages through synaptic and it keeps asking for the cdrom install which I've put it05:12
Zoohousesomething seems wrong tho...05:12
shiftlessis there an eclipse 3.0 package available somewhere in deb format?05:12
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arcticblueZoohouse: if you want to re-burn it, i'm pretty sure k3b will do that05:12
doriargg, why is this such a piece of crap05:12
jakyraZoohouse: we did that (terminal: sudo kcontrol), entered the password we used when we set up the user account, it opened the control pannel but it's still all greyed out.05:13
Zoohousearcticblue: oh realy? you dont need a special app so the dvd can be viewed on a DVD player?05:13
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Zoohousejakyra: i dont think you guys are using the correct password...05:13
arcticblueZoohouse: i'm not sure, but i think that k3b can burn dvd videos.  someone correct me if i'm wrong.05:13
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srbakeryo05:14
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srbakeri have a dir of movies that's 4.4G.  nautilus says it's too big to fit on a DVD05:14
jakyraZoohouse: We only have the password that we used to set up our user account. Is there another password?05:14
mngrif_i thought DVDs held 3.2 GB05:14
srbaker4.705:14
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mngrif_heh, ignore it and go on05:14
goldfishanyone know what i put in Xresources to turn on the visual bell in xterm ?05:14
maxy_noobHi guys!05:14
arcticbluei thought dvds help up to like 9 GB05:15
jasoncohensrbaker, it's really closer to 4.505:15
Zoohousearcticblue: I run the following command: $ dvdbackup -i /media/cdrom -o /storage/Movie/ and just get the options on the screen... I dont think Im leaving out anything...05:15
goldfishyou can get those05:15
mngrif_arcticblue: average DVDs...05:15
goldfishdual layer dvd's hold 905:15
maxy_noobCan someone help me get a kick ass font happening in Firefox ... please?!05:15
srbakerjasoncohen, okay...  so why will 4.4 not fit?05:15
Zoohousejakyra: the first user's password is the one you need05:15
jasoncohensrbaker, no clue :)05:15
maxy_noobShare your ideas at least for a kick ass interface.05:15
Zoohousejakyra: try the following command sudo su05:15
Zoohousejakyra: and tell me what happens05:16
maxy_nooba kickass font interface05:16
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jasoncohensrbaker, i think the capacity is between 4.4 and 4.505:16
arcticblueZoohouse: here is the command i typed to back up shark tale last night: dvdbackup -i /dev/cdrom -o /home/mark/movies -F05:16
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maxy_noobMy ubuntu is just not up to snuff to the regular windows setup05:16
Marble2Can anyone help me out with samba?05:16
jakyraZoohouse: root@ben:/home/ben #05:16
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jakyraZoohouse: ben is the only user we created and that is the password we're trying to use05:17
maxy_noobI know it sounds stupid Yoshimitsu, but I've fiddled with for some time without success05:17
Zoohousejakyra: ok you are now root05:17
Yoshimitsuwell this is what i did in the last 3 hours05:17
Zoohousejakyra: just type in kcontrol05:17
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SpookyEThi05:17
jasoncohenlol, well i just checked k3b and it shows the max capacity of a DVD as 4.4GB. too bad srbaker already left.,05:17
maxy_noobwhere Yoshimitsu ?05:18
SpookyETi'm having a weird probem05:18
triggermaxy_noob: what kind of kick-ass interface are you talking about?05:18
discordshiftless eclipse is easy to install in linux05:18
maxy_noobmostly fonts trigger05:18
Yoshimitsuill show you maxy_noob05:18
maxy_noobsomething equivalent to Windows or better05:18
jakyraZoohouse: cannot connect xserver, tried three times, "no protocol specified"05:18
ZoohouseDVDbackup fails :(05:18
maxy_noobthanks Yoshimitsu05:18
synd!seen nern05:19
ubotunern <~nern@63.238.157.167> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 1h 45m 30s ago, saying: 'windows makes me laugh'.05:19
arcticblueZoohouse: do you have dvdcss installed?05:19
triggermaxy_noob: You can get the MS core fonts from somewhere, I don't remember at the moment05:19
Zoohousejakyra: thats not good...05:19
jakyraZoohouse: communication problem with kcontrol, it probably crashed05:19
Zoohousearcticblue: good question05:19
Zoohouse:)05:19
jakyraZoohouse: thanks. I guessed that :)05:19
maxy_noobI got them, but I can't reproduce anywhere near the clarity and look of the windows fonts05:19
triggerhm...05:19
jakyraZoohouse: "communication problem with KDED"05:19
SpookyETWindows and Ubuntu both run at 1600x1200, 75.  However, when I boot into Ubuntu, the image is shifted right by a half a cm.  I'm tired to alwasy have to adjust the image each time I boot into Windows and Linux.  Does anyone have any idea on how to fix this?  x11 problem?05:19
triggerDo you have anti-aliasing on with the fonts?05:20
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userusermaxy_noob: have you tried windows? i hear that's equivalent to Windows05:20
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mngrif_maxy_noob: is font antialiasing enabled? turning it off can make some fonts look really really bad05:20
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zaflehey05:20
Marble2Can anyone help me out with samba?05:21
zaflewhats the prob05:21
Marble2windows can't connect to my samba share05:21
^thehatsrule^lineighborhood!05:21
mngrif_SpookyET: google for stuff concerning X11 modelines and windows05:21
Marble2i think I have everything setup right in smb.conf for it to be able to05:21
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zafledid you try a samba guide?05:22
Marble2not really05:22
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benplauthello everyone!  :)05:22
triggerhello05:22
maxy_noobya, they're enabled mngrif_05:23
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maxy_noobuseruser, very funny05:23
zafleshould try a guide05:23
zaflehttp://www.samba.netfirms.com/05:23
zaflehaven't read that but its a guide05:23
mngriffmaxy_noob: make sure the 100dpi fonts are installed, not the 75dpi fonts05:24
Zoohousearcticblue: I cant find dvdcss when I search Synaptic but I think VideoLAN has dvdcss so im installing that05:24
geppyIn the 'device database collection', what does it use for the audio test?  Gstreamer is working fine for me, but the audio test is not.05:25
mngriffZoohouse: vlc as a whole is a great player05:25
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geppyHrmph, it outputs to ESD.  _lame_05:26
arcticblueZoohouse: check your sources.conf and make sure you have all the binary repositories enables.  then do an apt-get update and try again.   it's in there.05:26
seek205Everytime I start Enemy terroritry it wont run unless I kill artsd is there any way to fix that so I dont have to kill it everytime?05:26
mngriffseek205: one of the fine bits of fun in dealing with everyone's obsession over sound servers...05:27
Zoohousearcticblue: will do05:27
jakyraZoohouse: We remember during install seeing an error in a long scroll of stuff saying there was a problem with xserver, but we never got a final error report. How do we get the xserver talking?05:27
mngriffseek205: really no way to get around it, but if i were you i'd write a quick wrapper script to do it for you05:27
seek205Yeah that sounds like a good idea.. if I knew how lol05:28
Guerinbollocks to that05:28
Guerinjust kill artsd altogether05:28
Guerindisable it in kcontrol05:28
Zoohousejakyra: look at the xserver log files05:28
seek205will sound still play? like mp3s and stuff?05:29
mngriffGuerin: easier said than done half the time.. lots of programs require it to be running.. noatun...05:29
hardcampa-lol artsd is just a sound daemon. Only reason one would want to use a sound daemon is if your soundcard is old and don't support hardware mixing.05:29
Guerinmngriff: the only answer to that is: don't use programs which won't work with standard sound controls.05:29
chillywillyanyone here ever use openvpn - http://openvpn.net?05:29
jasoncohenbtw, has anyone ported ubuntu's gui update tool to debian?05:29
seek205Ohhh I didnt know that05:29
mngriffGuerin: every programmer has a different version of "standard" :P05:30
Guerinand alsa's dmix does software mixing transparently without need for a sound daemon05:30
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seek205hmm let me try to get rid of it05:30
Guerinmngriff: i'm talking about OSS.05:30
arcticblueanyone have a good reference on making an ubuntu deb package?  i'd like to make a deb of the current cvs of ffmpeg.05:30
mngriffGuerin: i know, sound issues on my workstation are driving me crazy though05:31
maxy_noobmngriff, how do I do that?05:31
Guerinmngriff: seek205: another option is to use the 'arstdsp' wrapper which comes with arts.05:31
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Zoohousearcticblue: yea all my repos seem fine... http://pastebin.com/29365205:31
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mngriffmaxy_noob: no clue, i can't install ubuntu, i'm here trying to get some insight into the issue05:31
Zoohousejakyra: you know where the log files are at?05:32
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seek205hmmm it seems amaroK won't play music unless artsd is running05:32
Guerinthat's because it's one of those useless apps which promotes desktop-environment lock-in05:32
mngriffseek205: might i suggest beep-media-player?05:33
jasoncohenseek205, you can use amarok with the xine or gstreamer engine05:33
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seek205ahhh ok05:33
mngriffGuerin: some package is corrupt on my printed copies of ubuntu, know of a way to get around the issue?05:33
maxy_noobmngriff, what kind of problems?05:33
seek205I like that player :P it finds all my album art lol05:33
seek205How would I set it up to use xine?05:34
Guerinmngriff: i don't know what you mean.05:34
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mngriffmaxy_noob: corrupt package on the install CDs i got delivered, it's corrupt on all four of them05:34
mngriffGuerin: above ^05:34
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seek205dooh nevermind I see how05:34
runeneseasiest way to convert from mp4 to mp3/ogg/wav - (I have audiofiles in mp4 format, perhaps they're really aac, no drm).05:35
Guerinmngriff: don't use them; download a new installer.05:35
mngriff... mind you this is AFTER i got around the memory issues05:35
SeroI'm trying to apt-get install everything and nothing is working....... but when I did k3b it made me put the cd in and installed, I think my sources are not set right.05:35
mngriffGuerin: no way to burn05:35
maxy_noobwhy not burn your own iso, that's what I did.05:35
arcticblueZoohouse: http://pastebin.com/29365305:35
maxy_nooboh05:35
Guerinmngriff: sucks to be you.05:36
mngriffGuerin: know if the install kernel has loopback device support?05:36
discordman what a bunch of assholes in here you think one of you basts would let me know that i was missing the monitor freq in my xorg.conf espically after i asked pigs05:36
Guerinmngriff: no idea.05:36
Guerindiscord: you asked pigs? why would pigs know?05:36
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seek205Cool now mp player works and the game thanks guys@05:39
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seek205!05:39
ubotuseek205: Are you smoking crack?05:39
seek205yes!05:39
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seek205lol05:39
Guerin!what are you05:39
ubotuI am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot>05:39
Guerindear me05:39
Guerini thought you lot didn't want a bot in here05:40
mngriffGuerin: there's a lot about this project that astounds me every time i mess with it05:40
jakyraZoohouse: (in reverse order) client 18 rejected from local host (multiple listing); could not init font path element unix/:7100 removing from list are the most recent it's full of stuff does this help?05:40
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arcticblueZoohouse: any luck?05:42
jakyraZoohouse: serching on the word "fail": mach64 initialization failure05:42
Zoohousearcticblue: :/05:42
arcticblueZoohouse: did you find dvdcss?05:42
Zoohouseno05:42
Zoohouseit wont find it05:43
Zoohouse# apt-get install dvdcss05:43
ZoohouseReading package lists... Done05:43
ZoohouseBuilding dependency tree... Done05:43
ZoohouseE: Couldn't find package dvdcss05:43
goldfishhave u added repos?05:43
zenroxZoohouse,  read www.ubuntuguide.org for libdvdcss05:43
Zoohouseyea05:43
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arcticblueZoohouse: the full name of it is libdvdcss205:43
arcticblueZoohouse: try that05:43
mngriffZoohouse: did you apt-get update?05:44
ZoohousePackage libdvdcss2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.05:44
ZoohouseThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or05:44
Zoohouseis only available from another source05:44
ZoohouseE: Package libdvdcss2 has no installation candidate05:44
Zoohouseyea05:44
Zoohousemngriff: yea, i did the update05:44
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arcticblueZoohouse: use synaptic and search for it.  it's on the backports repository.  i just checked.05:45
Zoohouseone sec, i think i am missing something in my repo05:45
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Zoohouseeverything seems in check05:46
arcticblueZoohouse: i don't know what to say.  i see it in synaptic and it says it part of the backports repo.05:47
Zoohousearcticblue: comes up blank....05:47
arcticblueZoohouse: i guess just check www.ubuntuguide.org like zenrox said05:48
Zoohousesee look05:48
zenroxya and read the whole page05:48
Zoohousehttp://pastebin.com/29365805:48
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levanderhow do you use apt-cache to figure out what repository a package is in?05:51
jakyraZoohouse: if we try to start xserver it says "server is already running". Then we typed xorg. it said if the service wasn't running to delete /tmp/x0-lock. So we did. Then we typed xorg again. Now we have a blank screen.05:51
naliothbackports lead to the dark side05:51
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Zoohousejakyra: type init 5 as root05:51
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jakyrawe can't get the terminal05:52
jakyrathe screen is totally blank05:52
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naliothjakyra: <ctrl><alt><f3>05:52
mngriffctrl-alt-backspace05:52
jakyranalioth: Thanks! (I was wondering what that was)05:53
syndhey nalioth i made a sweet deal today having to do with ubuntu05:53
seek205what package would Python Qt bindings be in?05:53
Zoohousedeb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat testing main can be added to ubuntu??05:54
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naliothjakyra: those (f2 - f6) are your login terminals05:54
mngriffjakyra: see if "ps | grep x" comes up with anything X related05:54
naliothjakyra: f7 belongs to your X05:54
useruserZoohouse: i tried and it didn't work too well for me05:54
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useruserZoohouse: dependency problems05:54
bob2levander: apt-cache policy packagename05:54
Zoohousethanx05:54
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makaveliok i am having a problem i am using wine to try and run trillian V3.0 and everytime it will run but trillian just goes up and down really fast in my bottom left hand corner05:55
makavelii don't know what is going on05:55
geetergodis there a yahoo messanger you can download for Ubuntu?05:55
userusergeetergod: gaim does it, i think05:55
bob2geetergod: gaim, which is installed by default, can speak yahoo05:55
mngriffmakaveli: gaim..05:55
arcticbluegeetergod: just use gaim05:55
geetergodi have gaim...05:55
geetergoddidnt know it could do yahoo, kool05:55
makavelimngriff: i was using gaim but it is being dumb now05:55
mngriffuse it. love it.05:55
arcticbluei just wish gaim could do video and voice05:55
mngriffmakaveli: good luck with trillian then, it appears to use a lot of custom widgets05:56
mngriffarcticblue: there's a gnomemeeting plugin, methinks05:56
naliothgeetergod: gaim05:56
makavelimngriff: everytime i go to close it gaim is supposed to minimize to the tray and then it doesn't it just exits out of the program05:56
cpdietyI never got excited about their IRC interface05:56
naliothgeetergod: gaim does it all (even irc, tho badly)05:56
mngriffmakaveli: look around in the prefs05:56
david__whats a good P2P program for linux??05:56
makavelimngriff: i have and i can't find it anywhere05:56
syndcpdiety, you should see nAIM :p05:56
naliothdavid__: what do u want to p2p?05:56
arcticbluemngriff: but my gf uses msn...there's no way i could get her to install gnomemeeting05:56
mngriffdavid__: gift05:56
makavelii've tried everything05:56
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seek205david__: limewire05:57
synddavid__, gtk gnutella05:57
david__MP3 download mosly05:57
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mngriffarcticblue: gnomemeeting is compatible with whatever it is that windows uses for video conferencing05:57
syndlimewire kicks the shit out of your resources05:57
seek205yeah true05:57
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arcticbluemngriff: hmm, i didn't know that05:57
seek205blah java05:57
david__well right now i use bittorrent05:57
mngriffsynd: gift speaks gnutella and openft and god knows what else05:57
david__i dont much care for it05:57
cpdietysynd: worse?05:57
jakyraafter typing "init 5" it got stuck starting "anac(h)ronistic cron:anacron" It said ok. there's a cursor. it's blinking, but we can't type05:58
mngriffarcticblue: the name's escaping me at the moment05:58
david__and limewire you have to install java05:58
bob2jakyra: you know 5 = 2 in ubuntu, right?05:58
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synddavid__, gtk gnutella runs on the same servers as limewire05:58
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synddavid__, cept it does not use near as many resources05:58
david__is there anything else i might have to install??05:58
david__thats good05:59
synddavid__, no05:59
mngriffsynd: gtk gnutella has been around for a great deal longer than limewire too05:59
mngriffdavid__: nicotine is a soulseek client05:59
syndmngriff, ive never tried gift05:59
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syndcpdiety, its like a terminal style aim06:00
syndcpdiety, naim is06:00
jakyrabob2: what?06:00
SpookyETwhy doesn't the permission tab allow you to set the permission recursevely when you right click on a folder06:00
mngriffsynd: oh it's godly... combines the best of emule and gnutella, but leaves out all the community oritented stuffs... IMO, at least.06:00
ZoohouseI followed the steps in the ubuntuguid and still nothing06:00
syndcpdiety, google it, its rather intuitive06:00
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SpookyETi want all folders and files to take effect06:00
bob2jakyra: run level 5 is identical to run level 2.06:00
mngriffsynd: and there's tons of UIs for it too.. apollon is what i use, but it's KDE-centric06:00
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syndmngriff, ah, i see. i know that Xfactor on OS X runs on the gift service. i liked that a great deal06:00
jakyrabob2: I have no idea what a run level is. We just installed this last night.06:01
xWin2hello !06:01
mngriffsynd: gift is a daemon... it speaks two protocols by default, and you can add more06:01
bob2jakyra: why did you run "init 5" then?06:01
cpdietysynd: hmmm..06:01
syndmngriff, i meant daemon.06:01
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david__and BTW i just switched to ubuntu not too long ago06:01
shad0w1eis anyone willing to walk me through setting up a sendmail server?06:01
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jakyrabecause Zoohouse told me to. We're trying to be able to edit the Network settings and it's all greyed out. It looks like we're having xserver errors. We (I think) restarted xserver06:02
jakyra(bob2)06:02
bob2no, Zoohouse has been using redhat too long then06:02
syndmngriff, Xfactor on OS X used gIFT to search KaZaA, gnutella, and emule's networks at the same time. i think it had a few more too06:02
Zoohousebob2: :) why what happend?06:02
bob2jakyra: the "network settings" thing being greyed out is not an X problem.06:02
mngriffsynd: emule & kazaa = openFT06:03
bob2Zoohouse: 'init 5' does not do anything useful on a default ubuntu system06:03
Zoohousebob2: I thought his xserver stoped?..06:03
mngriffyay, 45 minutes till the ISO is done06:03
Zoohousearcticblue: very strange...06:03
bob2Zoohouse: this isn't redhat, the X server starts in runlevels 2 3 4 and 5.06:04
shad0w1emngriff: man you got a slow CD-burner, j/k06:04
Zoohousebob2: realy?06:04
Zoohousedidn't know that...06:04
ZoohouseI feel silly now06:04
Zoohouse:D06:04
mngriffshad0w1e: i don't HAVE a cd burner :P this is just for the download06:04
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shad0w1ei KNOW06:04
shad0w1ei was kiddin06:04
mngriffhar :)06:04
david__they have nero for linux now06:04
shad0w1edavid: I hear, but where do I find it?06:05
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WhiteRabbitthey have had that for a while06:05
mngriffalthough i'm suprized i'm not getting hounded with "why download when you can't burn it" type stuffs06:05
mngriffshad0w1e: it's on their site.. free d/l06:05
naliothmngriff: this is a free country (at least where i'm sittin)06:05
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bob2jakyra: so, is your only problem the greyed out thing?06:05
shad0w1eI thought I took a look on their site...06:05
jakyrawell, it was :)06:06
naliothmngriff: and ya never know, ya might have a friend with a lappy + cdburner that can come connect to yer network06:06
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shad0w1emngriff: you can mount it as an image, but you def. cant install it like that unless youre doing a crazy ass custom install06:06
david__http://ww2.nero.com/enu/NeroLINUX.html06:06
jakyrain f1 we have a cursor will that do?06:06
mngriffnalioth: you know if the install kernel has loopback support?06:06
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geetergodany webcam applications to download?06:06
mngriffshad0w1e: i'm rather good at doing those...06:06
naliothmngriff: sorry, no06:06
naliothmngriff: sorry, no i don't know06:06
shad0w1ecrazy ass installs?06:06
shad0w1elol06:06
naliothgeetergod: gnomemeeting?06:07
mngriffnalioth: it's fine, i can and will compile the module if i have to :)06:07
[Makaveli] can i get the last driver for my Ati Radeon 9000 Pro from apt-get ?06:07
naliothmngriff: you go!06:07
geetergod(shrugs)06:07
shad0w1eI tried out gentoo , it was a failure but I really learned how linux worked from it and now I can probably do my own crazy ass install06:07
jakyrabob2: The root problem is that our network services are not configured correctly but when we go to edit them they're all greyed out. We go admin mode to change them, enter the password, and go back to the begining06:07
Zoohouse  Well Ima continue this tomorrow06:07
Zoohousenight everyone06:07
jakyrabob2: our f2 is currently locked up06:07
mngriffshad0w1e: oh i'm talking about stuff like installing freebsd to a 486 laptop that only support single density floppies with 4MB of ram... that kind of crazyness06:08
naliothshad0w1e: if you change the install lang to chinese or sanskrit, it all becomes a crazy ass install06:08
jakyrabob2: we have a cursor in f1 (whatever that is)06:08
shad0w1emngriff: whatever. I once installed win95 off of 1.44 mb disks, (the CDROM edition) ... PKUNZIPPING was not fun06:08
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naliothmngriff: not crazy like installing linux into your bmq (to get rid of embedded windoze)?06:09
mngriffshad0w1e: been there too at an old job06:09
mngriffnalioth: bmq?06:09
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naliothshit i can't type06:09
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mngriffnalioth: alcohol does that06:09
shad0w1eheh then once windows was installed , it picked up the SCSI CDROM06:09
shad0w1ewhat a pain in the ass...06:09
naliothmngriff: linux instead of embedded windoze on your new 4 wheeled BMW06:09
spanglesontoastwhat commerical apps are there?06:09
naliothmngriff: if only i was drunk06:09
mngriffnalioth: ditto.06:09
transgresshey what's the import command to take a screenshot?  isn't it like import -root screenshot.jpg ?06:10
mngrifftransgress: man import06:10
crimsun_import -window root ...06:10
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[Makaveli] can i get the last driver for my Radeon 9000 Pro from apt-get ?06:10
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spanglesontoastyea very dodgy thou06:11
Rotundocan someone help me with sound in Hoary, I fresh installed today and I cannot seem to get any sound, I've got a VIA 8235 AC97 onboard sound, all the modules appear to be loaded and no channels are muted, any pointers on where to look would be greatly appreciated.06:11
spanglesontoastdoesn't allow you to set your res06:11
spanglesontoastyou mean rotundo you cannot hear your sub center and surround06:11
naliothRotundo: have you been to ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ or ubuntuguide.org?06:11
crimsunRotundo: paste the output from ,,amixer'' onto http://pastebin.com06:11
mngriffRotundo: turn your sound volume REALLY far down and try "cat /bin/cat > /dev/dsp" and see if you hear static.. keep the volume REALLY low though, trust me06:12
Rotundospanglesontoast: I hear nothing06:12
spanglesontoastah.06:12
crimsunit's a simple mixer unmute, I just need to see the amixer output06:12
ethicsrotundo : make sure theres no oss modules laoded before alsa goes after it...they clash06:12
RotundomngriffP: nothing06:12
Rotundoethics: I dont think I have any oss modules loaded06:13
SpookyETWhy is rhythmbox so bloody slow at indexing compared to amaroK?06:13
mngriffRotundo: lsmod can tell you06:13
crimsunRotundo: just paste amixer output to pastebin06:13
mngriffSpookyET: doesn't it do BPM checking too?06:13
Rotundocrimsun: done06:14
ethicsRotundo: they dont have snd- infront of them.....sometime oss loadsup and then alsa cant find  it.....similar name to the alsa names just no snd- prefix06:14
Rotundoethics: I dont see any non "snd-" modules with lsbin06:14
ethicsRotund, other than that i cant remember anything spectacularly diffult about them...06:14
crimsunRotundo: unmute PCM and mute IEC958 Capture Monitor06:14
ethicsSpookyET, amarok uses sqllite/mysql in the backend...not sure on rythmbox.06:15
Rotundocrimsun: I cannot mute IEC958... but unmuting PCM did nothing.06:16
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crimsunRotundo: you need to follow my directions06:16
naliothy'all be good06:16
mngriffRotundo: speakers turned on?06:16
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crimsunRotundo: both of those settings must be toggled06:16
Rotundomngriff: very funny06:16
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MethyRotund: make sure that digital output is turned off06:16
crimsunRotundo: use amixer06:16
MethyIf you have it06:16
mngriffRotundo: happened to me06:16
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Rotundocrimsun: I cannot toggle the iec setting with alsamixer06:16
crimsunRotundo: not alsamixer, amixer06:16
crimsunamixer sset PCM on ; amixer sset 'IEC958 Capture Monitor' off06:17
MethynutnutRotundo: yes you can, you press M I think06:17
[Makaveli] anyone here has an Ati video card ?06:17
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jakyrawell, I guess we'll try to sort this out tomorrow.06:18
jakyraThanks06:18
spanglesontoastmines the via 823706:18
spanglesontoast:D06:18
Rotundocrimsun: thanks06:18
Rotundocrimsun: didnt know about amixer :)06:18
Rotundocrimsun: it sounds distorted06:19
spanglesontoastdon't stand on your head :P06:19
Varangerhi crimsum06:19
RotundoMethynutnut: pressing M in alsamixer did nothing for the IEC958 control06:20
Varangercrimsum: I have a Intel Hd Audio.... I have been battling to make it work with my Hoary06:20
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MethynutnutRotundo: oh. I must be mistaken06:20
crimsunRotundo: make sure the pcm level isn't up too high06:20
Varangercrimsum: I have made it work but I get a strange "awful" audio....06:20
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mngriffover 80% distorts on all of my soundblasters06:20
spanglesontoastwhat commerical programs are there for communication better than gaim?06:21
EircBI have that problem sometimes too06:21
mngriffi've always wondered what that is06:21
EircBspanglesontoast, yahoo messenger has voice chat now06:21
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mngriffspanglesontoast: kopete is another multiprotocol IM thingymabop06:21
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WhiteRabbitgaim is pretty much the best one with plugins etc06:22
WhiteRabbitfor me anyways06:22
mngriffWhiteRabbit: gotta love the encryption06:22
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ethicsdoes gaim handle the new version 7 changes to msn protocol?06:23
spanglesontoasthmm06:23
crimsunethics: yes06:23
crimsunVaranger: please describ06:24
crimsune06:24
spanglesontoastany of you lot know how to compile webcam drivers?06:24
liz4rdAlright, i just came to ubuntu today from slackware and i got everytign all good...exept the sound...i'm on a SB 16 and it doesnt work. in slackware i had to uncomment SB 16 under OSS something in a file called alsa-modules or somethign how can i fix this is ubuntu?06:24
arcticblueethics: gaim works fine with msn for me06:24
geetergodhow do you meet other people that have gnomemeeting?06:24
mngriffspanglesontoast: what cam?06:24
ethicskopete stopped working ....new version fixes but i will swap to gaim i thinks hehe06:24
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Rotundocrimsun: the sound is distorted regardless of the levels I set06:24
spanglesontoastcreative pd100106:24
crimsunRotundo: with esd or alsa direct?06:25
crimsunliz4rd: lsmod|grep ^snd_sb06:25
Rotundocrimsun: it was esd06:25
mngriffspanglesontoast: if it was a logitech quickcam USB i could help ya, sorry.. generaly it's a matter of ./configure && make06:25
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spanglesontoastkk06:25
crimsunRotundo: try using alsa directly instead of using esd06:25
Rotundocrimsun: sans esd everything sounds great06:26
liz4rdcrimsun: what did that do?06:26
Rotundothank you06:26
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geetergodhow do you meet other people with gnomemeeting/06:26
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mngriffRotundo: check the sample rate settings within ESD06:26
crimsunliz4rd: I need the output from that command pasted into #flood06:26
Rotundomngriff: where do I look for that?06:26
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liz4rdcrimsun: it said nothing06:26
mngriffgeetergod: elect to put yourself into the directory and then look at the directory06:26
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mngriffRotundo: if i could get ubuntu to install i'd know. sorry :\06:26
crimsunliz4rd: are you positive you used snd_sb16 on Slackware?06:26
liz4rdcrimsun: whast the snd part?06:27
toranhey guys, how do I get my gtk theme to apply on startup of a window manager like fluxbgox?06:27
liz4rdi have a soundblaster 16 thast all i knowq06:27
crimsunliz4rd: the alsa portion06:27
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liz4rdoh06:27
mngriffliz4rd: great soundcard :)06:27
liz4rd:P06:27
liz4rdit works06:27
spanglesontoastwhy is my pci soundcard detected first and is primary for everything?06:27
mngriffreally, it is, i still have one that works06:27
transgressbetter than onboard... and mngriff this isn't an insult channel.  it's a help channel ... be helpful or STFU please.06:28
crimsunspanglesontoast: because that's the way the hardware is initialised06:28
mngrifftransgress: that wasn't an insult.. i run one myself06:28
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transgressmngriff: ah i see... i apologize then... sorry... took it wrong06:28
mngrifftransgress: it happens :)06:28
crimsunliz4rd: did you ,,sudo modprobe snd_sb16''?06:28
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spanglesontoastthere a way of making it second?06:29
Varangercrimsum: I have an Intel Hd Audio06:29
liz4rdcrimsun: no06:29
crimsunspanglesontoast: permanently?06:29
ethicsspangle just load them in the right order in /etc/modules06:29
Varangercrimsum: First I run apt-get alsa-source06:29
spanglesontoastya06:29
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mngriffspanglesontoast: you can probably change some defaults with your sound server or do some symlink wizardry (which is what works best in debian and as a whole, i don't know about ubuntu just yet)06:29
crimsunethics: don't mess with /etc/modules unless absolutely necessary. Hoary provides a much better solution.06:30
Varangercrimsum: after, dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source (azx)06:30
ethicsVaranger:  modprobe snd-azx06:30
Varangercrimsum: then, I made the deb file and installed with dpkg -i06:30
Varangercrimsum / ethics: the problem is that I get an awful audio06:30
liz4rdcrimsun: you god! thankx man06:30
spanglesontoastsomeone said it was to do with aliases06:30
crimsunVaranger: (you're completely not triggering my nick highlight because you're misspelling my nick)06:30
toranhey guys, how do I get my gtk theme to apply on startup of a window manager like fluxbgox?06:30
mngriffspanglesontoast: yep, aliases, symlinks, all the same06:31
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ethicsVaranger awful as in static pulses etc06:31
crimsunspanglesontoast: cat /proc/asound/modules06:31
Rotundocrimsun: thanks a lot for all the help.06:31
Rotundogoodnight06:31
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mngriffspanglesontoast: most programs by default want /dev/dsp for audio out... standard says that /dev/dsp should be a link to the correct device (/dev/dsp2 in the case of one of my boxes)06:31
spanglesontoastonly got one06:31
spanglesontoastas I blackplugged or something the other sound module06:32
crimsunspanglesontoast: if you only have one, why are you concerned about the ordering?06:32
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spanglesontoastwell I will be restarting06:32
spanglesontoastsoon06:32
SirGrokI am trying to configure my sound card and the comment under Ubuntu Hardware support says that I need to disable "Audigy Analog" (for my SB Audigy card).... Does anyone know where I need to go to do that?06:32
spanglesontoastand re enabling the other card06:32
Varangercrimsun / ethics: Yes, I get a static pulse (like a radio when it is not well tuned)06:32
crimsunSirGrok: you need to unmute the Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack06:33
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crimsunSirGrok: paste the output from amixer onto http://pastebin.com06:33
SirGrokcrimsun, I do that in the volume control area?06:33
spanglesontoastso how would I set it to be number one?06:33
crimsunVaranger: cat /proc/asound/version06:34
jeremywhitinghi all, anyone know how to get past ubuntu install disk killing init cause it runs out of memory?06:34
SirGrokcrimsun, I don't know where to get the output from amixer.... Kinda linux sounds n00bish.06:34
crimsunspanglesontoast: set what?06:34
crimsunSirGrok: open a Terminal and type amixer06:34
jeremywhitingI'm trying to install on an old system with only 24MB ram06:34
ethicsVaranger:  alsa 1.0.9 fixes mroe of that but i havent gone up to it yet...im on ICH6 like you but i did throw some options at the card which decreased the noise but its still there..1.0.9 should use the intel8x0 driver instead i think but again  i havent gone up...scratchy sounds are fine atm for the box 8)06:34
crimsunspanglesontoast: you haven't told me which two alsa drivers would be used06:34
imaekI have a problem.  My sound card is constantly being used, which prevents me from using MPlayer or anything that requires sound.  Is there anything that allows me to check what is using my sound card?06:35
icemanquestion for a admin ... one here ?06:35
crimsunethics: no, 1.0.9 uses hda_intel06:35
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spanglesontoasterm where is the blacklisting module thing06:35
ethicscrimsun: is it any better?06:35
crimsunspanglesontoast: /etc/hotplug/blacklist?06:35
crimsunethics: considerably06:35
SirGrokcrimsun, here is my URL http://pastebin.com/29367106:35
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nutorianscreen -r06:36
Varangercrimsun: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.8.06:36
VarangerCompiled on May 31 2005 for kernel 2.6.10-5-686-smp (SMP).06:36
spanglesontoastty06:36
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Varangercrimsun: that is the contents of /proc/asound/version06:36
crimsunSirGrok: amixer sset 'Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack' on06:36
spanglesontoastsnd_cmipci snd_via82xx06:37
crimsunVaranger: so you need newer ALSA drivers06:37
crimsunspanglesontoast: and which one do you want to use primarily?06:37
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spanglesontoastsnd_via82xx06:38
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ethicscrimsun: that the version in alsasource atm?06:38
spanglesontoastsnd_cmipci takes over06:38
drummer87hey, can someone please help me?? i have no desktop!06:38
icemananyone have admin rights here ...06:38
crimsunspanglesontoast: echo "options snd-cmipci index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base06:38
Varangercrimsun: I've read here how to update them http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HdaIntelSoundHowto but I am afraid that would break dpkg dependencies06:38
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Varangercrimsun: Am I right?06:38
drummer87my cpu is working at 100% and the desktop bg isn't loading06:38
crimsunethics: 1.0.8 is in hoary/universe's 'alsa-source'; 1.0.9 is available upstream as a tarball06:39
SirGrokcrimsun, after calling that, my shell i sjust haning at a '>' right under that line of code.06:39
crimsunSirGrok: that's because you mistyped06:39
spanglesontoastthat's it?06:39
spanglesontoastsome really needs to tell me these things06:39
spanglesontoastdistros are different06:39
spanglesontoastlol06:39
crimsunthat's because Debian and Ubuntu do things the sane way with regards to sound06:40
icemanadmin ... got a question on a server rule06:40
kakaltois lame an mp3 encoder?06:40
drummer87actually.. i think it's nautilus that's haveing trouble loading? anyone have any ideas?? i kind of REALLY need it06:40
crimsunkakalto: and a decoder06:40
kakaltofor mp3 only?06:40
crimsunnot just mp306:40
kakaltoor just general encoder/decoder?06:40
crimsunnot general06:41
kakaltowhat about FLAC?06:41
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spanglesontoastit is debian thou06:41
SirGrokcrimsun, you sent it to me mistyped... but no matter... it works. THANKS! You saved me a lot of time trying to figure this out on my own.06:41
Varangercrimsun: will I break alsa dependancies?06:41
crimsunSirGrok: no, my syntax was correct06:41
drummer87??06:41
drummer87:(06:41
liz4rdis there an easy way to make the sshd service start upon startup?06:42
crimsunVaranger: if you're careful, no06:42
spanglesontoastchkconfig sshd on06:42
SirGrokcrimsun, thanks a lot. I wouldn't have figured that out for a while.06:42
crimsunliz4rd: it does automatically if you install openssh-server06:42
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SirGrokgoing to reboot.06:42
spanglesontoastam I correct?06:43
Varangercrimsun: careful about? If I follow http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HdaIntelSoundHowto directions, will I break dependancies?06:43
crimsunspanglesontoast: neither Debian nor Ubuntu uses chkconfig06:43
drummer87i'll try a reboot..06:43
pencixxxh06:43
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spanglesontoastoh.......06:44
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spanglesontoastwhat does it use?06:44
ianhello ppl.. i want to install realplayer put when i apt-get it... it has an error... realplayer:06:44
ian  Depends: libc6 (>=2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 is to be installed06:44
ian. how to install realplayer?06:44
crimsunVaranger: no, you won't break dependencies if you follow the bottom method. On the other hand, you won't accomplish anything, because that's the same version you're currently using.06:44
liz4rdcrimsun: when its done installin that will it auto matcly start now?06:45
crimsunian: you need to use _only_ the testing repo of debian-marillat06:45
crimsunian: do not use unstable06:45
crimsunliz4rd: yes06:45
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iancrimsun: how? please im new in linux.. :(06:45
Varangercrimsun: I am trying to build version 1.0.9, Hoary's got 1.0.806:45
liz4rdyay it works06:46
icemanAny channel admins in here ...06:46
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bob2iceman: ?06:46
liz4rdi'm loving ubuntu each minute :D06:46
Varangercrimsun: are Hoary's 1.0.8 "real" 1.0.9 ??06:46
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Killer6691234569ubuntu is a linux06:46
Killer6691234569it can ........06:46
bob2indeed06:46
iancrimsun: how? is it possilbe to install realplayer?06:46
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Killer6691234569u06:47
Killer6691234569know me06:47
flammyYou can install realplayer06:47
icemanbob2 you admin ... want to ask about a person being given admin right and abusing them in a channel ...06:47
flammyAdd the packaget06:47
bob2iceman: who?06:47
drummer87hmm.. rebooting fixed it. *note to self - don't get worried so easily*  :)06:47
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ianflammy: i have tried it but an error ocured... realplayer:06:48
ian  Depends: libc6 (>=2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 is to be installed06:48
ian. how to it?06:48
bob2ian: fix your /etc/apt/sources.list.  use the testing marillat reposditory, not the unstable one.06:48
crimsunVaranger: no, 1.0.8 == 1.0.806:48
bob2Killer6691234569: please just leave06:48
Varangercrimsun: then, I'll build alsa 1.0.9 ( 1.08 != 1.0.9)06:49
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icemanbob2 not in this channel ... was in slackware .. asking about installing a zipslack install on wifes pc ... to slowly migrate her to linux ... originaly started asking about amigo liux .. but they would not advise on that .. so i legitmatly changed the toppic .. and was banned ... for legit questions ... i was told to ask about slackware or zipslack .. so i did ..06:49
ianbob2: ill remove all with unstable word?06:49
bob2ian: no06:50
bob2ian: you find the one marillat line, then change "unstable" to "testing"06:50
ianbob2: how pls..im new with ubuntu.. :(06:50
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DekaPinkHey, all... I'm trying to install something from source and it's asking me, "What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running06:50
DekaPinkkernel?" What should I tell it?06:50
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bob2ian: take it up with them06:50
bob2DekaPink: what are you installing?06:50
bob2ian: do you know how to edit text files?06:51
ianbob2: this is my source.list with marillat..06:51
bob2iceman: take it up with them06:51
DekaPinkbob2: VMware.06:51
iandeb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat stable main06:51
iandeb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat unstable main06:51
iandeb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat testing main06:51
iandeb-src ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main06:51
bob2ian: lord06:51
bob2ian: get rid of all of them aside from the testing one06:51
icemanbob2  sent you a post on admin from the freenod site ... where to report abuse ..06:51
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bob2iceman: you don't report abuse, except to the other ops of that channel06:51
spanglesontoasthey by any chance do you know a way so I don't have to keep typing duplicate into every player I go into06:52
bob2freenode is not going to interfere in the an internal channel dispute06:52
bob2DekaPink: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)06:52
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bob2DekaPink: then point it at /usr/src/linux-headers-...06:52
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DekaPinkThanks, bob2. :)06:52
ianbob2: ok....ill try again..06:52
icemanbob2 cant get in channel .. to dispute the matter ..06:52
bob2spanglesontoast: "duplicate into every player I go into"?06:52
bob2iceman: then /msg an op or something06:53
DekaPinkIts default wants to go to /usr/src/linux/include which doesn't work... So... Yeah... Thanks. :D06:53
spanglesontoastyea06:53
spanglesontoastpcm.duplicate06:53
bob2spanglesontoast: you need to explain what that means06:53
ianbob2: after that i do the apt-get update? and try to apt-get install realplayer? is that right?06:53
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bob2ian: yes06:54
ianbob2: same error i get.. :(06:54
ianwhat shall i do? :(06:54
BrandonTurnerHI ALL06:54
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ianbob: The following packages have unmet dependencies:06:55
ian  realplayer: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 is to be installed06:55
ianE: Broken packages06:55
ubermonzieian: deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat : this line may cause your apt-get to break!06:55
ubermonzienot recommended!06:55
bob2ian: paste your whole /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood06:55
spanglesontoastpcm.duplicate {06:55
spanglesontoast    type plug06:55
spanglesontoast    slave.pcm "surround51"06:55
spanglesontoast    slave.channels 606:55
spanglesontoast    route_policy duplicate06:55
spanglesontoast}06:55
spanglesontoastsoz for the small paste06:56
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ubermonzieian" do an "apt-get install -f" first06:56
ubermonziethen try it06:56
[Makaveli] can someone help me installing the last drivers for my Ati Radeon 9000 Pro ...06:56
bob2spanglesontoast: that configures alsa to duplicate sound to all 6 channels?06:56
spanglesontoastyea06:57
bob2[Makaveli] : er, ubuntu supports that out of the box06:57
spanglesontoastgot 5.106:57
ianbob2: i have pasted..06:57
bob2[Makaveli] : I don't think firegl even works on that card06:57
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DekaPink"The path "/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5" is an existing directory, but it doesnot contain at least one of these directories "linux", "asm", "net" as expected."06:57
spanglesontoastbut as you see06:57
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spanglesontoastI have to use duplicate all the time06:57
ianubermonzie: same error..06:57
bob2DekaPink: does it contain them?06:57
stoffeMy swedish letters , and  is replaced by ? in my playlist when i plays them in beep mediaplayer. Does anyone know if i can get it to work in beep. It works fine in xmms but I want beep :)06:57
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[Makaveli] so you say that i have the last drivers when i install ubuntu 5.04 ?06:58
ianbob2: heres my source,list http://pastebin.com/29368206:58
DekaPinkbob2: Whoops, my bad... I didn't go far enough into the directory. ^^06:59
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bob2[Makaveli] : I'm saying there are no useful newer drivers for you06:59
r3twoany help for a half-crashed system? HAL failure after synaptic addition of usb support. No ethernet, no mouse. Keyboard only. thanks06:59
bob2please stop /msg'ing me, people.06:59
[Makaveli] oh ok06:59
bob2r3two: "synaptic addition of usb support"?06:59
spanglesontoastany ideas on how I can make that act as default setting for most players07:00
ubermonzietry running xf68cfg r3two07:00
crimsunspanglesontoast: you can try nesting the definitions inside pcm.!default07:00
ianbob2: :) did you get my source.list.. :)07:00
spanglesontoasthow would one do that?07:01
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r3twothanks, I'll give it a try. If that fails rebuild from scratch?07:01
crimsunspanglesontoast: take your duplicate definition as an example and look at slave.*07:01
crimsunspanglesontoast: there's more info on the alsa wiki07:01
spanglesontoastthink someone said at #alsa07:02
spanglesontoastthat you cannot make plug a slave07:02
toranhow do I get my gtk theme to apply on startup of a window manager like fluxbox? I'm on kubuntu07:02
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crimsunspanglesontoast: that was me. You can't make an unnested plug a slave.07:02
spanglesontoastoh yea07:03
crimsunspanglesontoast: if you want to do what you're attempting, you must drill down to the hw:X07:03
spanglesontoastlol07:03
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spanglesontoastdrill down?07:03
DekaPinkbob2: Thanks again. :D07:03
spanglesontoastyou mean start at something like hw:0 then create lots over the top07:03
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crimsunspanglesontoast: well, that would be the bottom-up approach, but you'd define it from the top down07:04
crimsunspanglesontoast: look at the softvol pcm plugin in the alsa-lib documentation for an example of drilling down07:05
spanglesontoastjust wish there were some tools for doing this07:06
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ianhow do i install realplayer please help...error : Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 is to be installed07:08
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crimsunian: paste in #flood the output of apt-cache policy realplayer07:09
spanglesontoastso crimsun where it says pcm.name07:09
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spanglesontoasti put default?07:09
crimsunspanglesontoast: for the top-level? No, you'd want pcm.!default07:10
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iancrimsun: i have..pasted in flood..07:10
spanglesontoastit looks quite confusing to set up07:10
icemanbob2 can you contact a admin in there for me ..07:11
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crimsunian: err, sorry, could you paste to http://pastebin.com please? (I wasn't in #flood, and I don't want you to reflood)07:11
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iancrimsun: http://pastebin.com/29369307:12
iancrimsun: what do you think that cauz the error..? :(07:12
bob2iceman: no,sorry, I don't want to get invovled07:12
crimsunian: any reason you must have 10.x?07:12
bob2ian: yeah, looks ok07:12
crimsunian: you can install 8.x just fine from multiverse by passing the version explicitly to apt-get/aptitude07:13
iancrimsun: what do you mean?07:13
GentoonAnyone here no how to get a good repo for Ubuntu 64?07:13
crimsunian: sudo aptitude install realplayer=8.0.1107:13
rg58sma2hot to create a terminal for all directory????'07:13
bob2Gentoon: er, the default one works fine07:13
bob2rg58sma2: you need to explain what you're trying to do07:14
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spanglesontoastcrimsun any chance you could this through with me on how to set up this plugin?07:14
rg58sma2hot to create a xterm all directory????'07:14
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rg58sma2xterm in nautilus07:14
icemanbob2 how to contact a freenode staff member ...07:14
bob2iceman: you don't07:14
dr_willisrg58sma2,  huh?07:14
bob2iceman: you contact the #slackware ops07:14
rg58sma2or not  in nautilus07:14
rg58sma2in a  folder07:14
bob2rg58sma2: what do yo uwant to see?07:14
rg58sma2terminal in folders07:14
crimsunspanglesontoast: I'm headed to sleep shortly, actually, but I'm in #alsa07:15
rg58sma2not only in Desktop07:15
rg58sma2capishe??07:15
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bob2rg58sma2: maybe try #ubuntu-es?07:15
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iancrimsun: its asking question.. but no luck..07:16
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crimsunian: in #flood, what question?07:16
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iancrimsun: in have exit it ... but when i try again.. ill paste it to flood07:17
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iancrimsun: i have pasted it..07:18
imaekHow can I tell what is using ALSA?07:18
bob2imaek: fuser -v /dev/snd/*07:19
imaekI got nothing.07:19
Traveler_Does anyone knows where can I get some kind of documentation about Ubuntu Xorg multiseat support?07:19
imaekand GAIM can play sounds07:19
iancrimsun, bob2: what shall i do..?07:19
imaekbtu not Rythem Box07:19
Traveler_(I recently instaled multiseat package, but it doesn't have any kind on documentation)07:20
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bob2nothing in the wiki?07:20
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DekaPinkBai-bai, all!07:21
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DekaPinkArg.... How to I copy something from the xchat window? :(07:22
dr_willisselect, middle click normally07:22
iancrimsun, bob2: i have installed it..thanks! anyway:)07:22
imaekWhen I try to mplayer a file, it tries to use alsa, but according to everything else (and mplayer) alsa is always being used07:22
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bob2ian: cool!07:23
iancrimsun, bob2: wiki! :)07:23
ghost_whats a decent media player out there?07:23
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bob2imaek: if you haven't configured dmix, only one program can use alsa at a time07:23
carvExmms07:23
bob2ghost_: mplayer i nice for videos07:23
ghost_ty07:23
imaekbob2: the thing is, no program is using alsa07:23
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trinidadHELP PLEASE:  I've installed a PCB design software title called "Eagle", however, I can't get it to start.  Does anyone have any experience with this?07:23
bob2trinidad: it has no instructions at all?07:24
trinidadbob2: I can find the shell script and the executable but it won't run07:24
DekaPinkThank you... Now I must go to my windows partition for a couple minutes. --;07:24
trinidadI've tried from command line read up on it but to no avail07:24
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carvEi can't even get my wireless card to access my AP, I've got it working, everything responds, and it looks like its going well and then after i modprobe ndiswrapper - the green indicator on my pci wireless card doesnt work, nor does r/c'ing or d/c'ing back and forth work, any suggestions?07:26
carvEI can't even ping my router :>07:26
bob2what chipset is it?07:26
carvEits motorola07:26
carvEany idea bob?07:29
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trinidadHELP PLEASE:  I've installed a PCB design software title called "Eagle", however, I can't get it to start.  Does anyone have any experience with this?07:30
trinidadplease somebody take a shot at it07:30
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bob2no need to use caps07:30
bob2or ask again07:30
trinidadwhat happened to you bob207:31
bob2try asking on the user list, perhaps someone there has heard of it07:31
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trinidadokay07:31
trinidadthanks for advice07:31
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trinidadttyl07:31
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AMDXPi forgot about gkrellm07:34
spanglesontoastany other arty program other than gimp07:35
spanglesontoast?07:35
bob2inkscape?07:35
AMDXPspanglesontoast: for photos?07:35
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spanglesontoastnot just artwork07:35
spanglesontoast*no07:35
AMDXPoh ok07:35
carvEbob2: I've got my 2 windows based ntfs drives mounted to whatever it auto mounts to, and if i try to mount to with mount -t ntfs /dev/hda /mnt/hdd0 - I try to cd or goto the file in gnome, [x]  over the folder :\07:35
bob2carvE: edit /etc/fstab, replace "defaults" with "umask=002"07:36
bob2(on the ntfs drive lines only)07:36
AMDXPmy camera used to auto mount it wont now since i added xfce407:36
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bob2AMDXP: yes, you need to use gnome for that07:36
carvEbob2: so just on the ntfs harddrives?07:36
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AMDXPbob2: i am using gnome now07:36
bob2AMDXP: running gnome-volume-manager may make it start working07:36
AMDXPcannot connect to sound daemon please run 'esd' at a command prompt07:38
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AMDXPALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:868:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave07:39
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i3dmasterhow to let vi remember the last edited place. my vi is always starting from the first char.. :(07:42
dr_willisHmm...07:42
dr_willisI think thers some info file that vi writes.. or actually it may be a feature of some vi's07:42
bob2I doubt vi/nvi can07:43
dr_willisor it may be some alias :P Ive seen it done that way also.07:43
bob2vim probably can, since it can do everything else07:43
i3dmasterdr_willis: it does have the .viminfo file, but not sure if its using it.07:43
dr_willismy vi goes to the first line07:43
i3dmasterbob2: tried vim though, the same behavior07:43
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dr_willisI recall that the SUSE one went to the last edted line07:43
bob2it'd be a config option07:43
bob2it'd be very annoying if it was the default07:44
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carvEbob2: Umask only applies to newly created files, anyway07:45
dr_willisuseing  VIM - Vi IMproved 6.307:45
i3dmastervi in RHEL4 is able to place back the position where I left. But somehow, the vi in ubuntu doesn't and I cannot figure out which param is controlling it07:45
bob2carvE: no, sorry07:45
dr_willisI was thinking the 'vi' id seen befor had an alias.07:45
bob2carvE: it applies to the whole filesystem07:45
bob2carvE: (when set in fstab)07:45
carvEoh okay07:45
dr_willisbut i dont see no options. that make it go the lsast edited line.07:45
i3dmasterdr_willis: well if you do vi + filename, it will go to the last line07:46
dr_willisahh07:46
dr_willislets test that07:46
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dr_willisYep it does. :P07:47
dr_willisthats... odd syntax :P07:47
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i3dmasterdr_willis: but I am hoping just vi filename and it will take me to where I left. that will be very helpful07:47
dr_willisi3dmaster,  make an alias.07:48
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dr_willisthe man pages for vi dosent even seem to mention this :P07:48
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KarlosIIis nexuiz gonna be backported?07:48
KarlosIINexuiz07:48
KarlosIIrulz07:48
i3dmasterdr_willis: alias for what?07:49
KarlosIIhttp://www.nexuiz.com/index.php07:49
dr_willisalias myvi='vi +'07:49
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JohnnyRottenare there any programs like dreamweaver mx for linux?07:49
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KarlosIIbluebird07:50
KarlosIIerr blue...07:50
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i3dmasterdr_willis: no, you don't want to do that cause that will just give you the last line instead of the first line. pretty much the same thing07:50
dr_willisvi + filename07:51
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ilmanseeany one have and idea of how to configure evolution with gmail07:51
dr_willismoved the cursor to the last edited line just now.07:51
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KarlosIIilmansee, rea the google help faq07:52
KarlosIIread07:52
dr_willisoh wait - it dident ;P07:52
i3dmasterdr_willis:no, its the very last line, not the last edited line.07:52
ilmanseei did the prob is with the default port07:52
ilmanseecan not do it on evolution07:52
dr_willisive seen it do just that however..07:52
dr_willis:O07:52
JohnnyRottenKarlosII, was bluebird the name of a program like dreamweaver or was that for someone else07:53
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i3dmasterdr_willis: well... its a little bit ugly I know.07:53
[Makaveli] can someone tell me how can i disable arts ?07:53
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i3dmasteranyway, thanks.07:53
KarlosIIJohnnyRotten, sec looking for the correct name07:53
ilmanseedid not know how to configure the port nember on evolution i even trid putting the server as pop.gmail.com:46507:53
[Makaveli] from gnome07:53
dr_willisi3dmaster,  yea - i think the suse guys had some little bash shell that read that file.. or perhaps they were not useing the same vi.07:54
KarlosIIu don't07:54
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KarlosIII htink07:54
KarlosIIhuh07:54
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i3dmasterdr_willis: might be.07:54
JohnnyRotteni know of bluefish but thats not even close to dreamweaver :(07:55
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hondjeAm I stuck using mesa to get libGL, or is there a nvidia one hidden away somewhere?07:55
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KarlosIIJohnnyRotten, oh that's waht i was thinking of07:55
[Makaveli] anyone knows how to disable arts ?07:55
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KarlosIIilmansee, uhh I don'thave any ports set07:55
KarlosIIand it works07:56
ilmanseekarlos : so it is working on your pc07:56
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KarlosIIyes07:57
KarlosIIbeen for 6 mos07:57
ilmanseekarlosII i did the setting more then once did not work with evolution had to downlaod kmail which was configured without prob07:57
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mlambieanyone got a line of bash that will delete all the files in the current dir with a filesize of 0?07:57
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KarlosIII have no isues07:58
KarlosIII have no issues07:58
seek205Does anyone else have problems with the nvidia drivers in apt-get??? my 6600GT won't hardly play ET!07:58
ilmanseeok i will let it go then an enigma thanx for your help karlosII07:59
KarlosIInp07:59
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shad0w1ehey guys I just installed MEPIS and it is running WAY faster than ubuntu.... I mean openoffice opened up in like 2 seconds. anyone know why?08:00
ilmanseeshadow1e i noticed that too and it consumes less cpu and memory too08:01
shad0w1ewith these two compared, specifically?08:01
shad0w1elooks like KDE 3.4 was a fluke08:02
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DekaPinkHey all~08:04
DekaPinkI'm ba-ack.08:04
blueskiesokeihello .. somehow my apt messed up ? i have all the repositories in there and it is still suppossed to use the CDROM too. but now it is not able to find a bunch of packages?08:04
blueskiesokeiis there anyway to clear out apt and make it start all new again ?08:05
saber_hmm... edit /etc/apt/sources.list08:05
saber_then run apt-get update08:05
DekaPinkSo here's what's burning on my mind... Would it be possible to move all the important stuff from my Windows partition to my Ubuntu partition, and resize the Ubuntu partition to take up the space Windows no longer needs?08:06
blueskiesokeii did that ... it is like everything on the CDROM was lost ?08:06
Gentoonsaber_: i got the list from the faq but im on the 64bit version, what should i do?08:06
blueskiesokeii wanted to apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ... not there ?08:06
saber_hmm... i'm not sure of what the 64-bit architecture entails in regards to ubuntu08:06
saber_blue: mount your cdrom, use cd, then dpkg -i [package] 08:07
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saber_i use fluxbox, so i can't tell you the package name for kde: try http://packages.ubuntu.com08:07
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IcemanV9blueskiesokei: you said earlier that you have ALL repos and kubuntu-desktop is not there? something ain't right.08:09
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IcemanV9blueskiesokei: try to comment out CD in /etc/apt/sources.list08:09
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DekaPinkAnd is there anything I can use from windows to resize the partitions, since I apparently can't use gparted... :308:10
dr_williswhy cant ya use gparted?08:11
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dr_willisDekaPink,  may want to get a live cd  that has qt_parted or gparted, or similer.08:11
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DekaPinkWell, it locks everything down, and I can't unmount the linux partition to resize since I'm on it, so... :308:12
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dr_willisDekaPink,  thats why i said to use a live cd. :P08:13
DekaPinkdr_willis: Would the Ubuntu live CD have it? ^^08:13
icemangot to look at ip masking ...08:13
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dr_willisDekaPink,  should.. or use Knoppix, or Morphix, or (my fave) that Linux Rescue Cd08:14
DekaPinkdr_willis: Ginchy... Thanks. :D08:14
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icemanboy slackware is a lousy support channel ...08:19
icemanin 6 months i have tried at least 6 versions of linux ... and of all the distro's i am pleased mose with ubuntu ...08:20
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TechOzonehello08:21
DekaPinkYou're more adventurous than me... I've only tried two recently, including Ubuntu.08:21
icemansmoothest install ... best install ... and best support08:21
TechOzonehi mako08:21
TechOzoneis mako here?08:21
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ZirlandHi08:23
icemanDekaPink tried slackware ... mandrake .. suse ... darwin ... redhat ... freebsd ... knoppix .... clusternix .... knoppixcluster .... boy a list ...08:23
ZirlandI need kill logged user08:23
icemanhow do you keep a log of channel's08:23
Zirlandhe's stuck in the system and I don't know, how to kill him08:23
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DekaPinkiceman: I tried Mandrake years ago when I first got interested in trying Linux, but it was never my cup of tea... Then more recently Fedora, and now Ubuntu.08:24
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TechOzoneUbuntu rocks08:24
DekaPinkRight Click > Settings > Preferences > Logging > Enable Logging of conversations > OK08:24
icemanDekaPink i started years ago with red hat 5.2 ... and lots of attempts to get a likable system... now with ubuntu i might have it08:25
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DekaPinkiceman: Yeah, I totally hear that. I'm really liking Ubuntu so far, and people here have been really helpful, too. :) (Thanks, everyone!)08:26
TechOzoneubuntu rocks08:27
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lalois there a task or package that pulls a complete GNOME development environment?  (as in, lib*-dev)08:27
icemanRobert Levin just sent hm a email08:27
icemanRobert Levin the guy behind freenode ..08:28
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cumii-hello all08:29
cumii-help me plz08:29
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ZirlandI need kill logged user...  he's stuck in the system and I don't know, how to get rid of him08:29
cumii-anyone...08:29
Gentoonman this 64bit version is messed up im going back to the 386 one08:30
icemancumii- ?08:30
PhotonXomghi08:30
cumii-i change file browser to show file08:30
cumii-i cant see folder list on left side08:31
cumii-how to change to default ?08:31
cumii-:(08:31
cumii-plz08:31
cumii-hellooooooooooooooo08:33
cumii-how to change for view folder list on file browser ?????08:33
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=== cifrovojdrakosha hi
JohnnyRottenhow do you start enlightenment?08:34
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IcemanV9cumii-: change it to "tree" on the left side08:34
cumii-like option folder list in windows08:34
mebegreedylots of people on this server08:34
cumii-but i dont know to change on ubuntu08:35
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saber_cumi: poke your eyes and squint :)08:35
cumii-;(08:35
saber_hehe, just kidding08:36
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IcemanV9cumii-: open the file browser .. change "information" to "tree"08:36
saber_i'm not sure, look around the toolbar menu08:36
cumii-ok ok08:36
cumii-iwill find08:36
IcemanV9cumii-: oops, on the left side08:36
mebegreedyhey im new to linux what should i learn about it and whats good to know how to do08:36
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DekaPink-Well, that was weird.08:37
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saber_you should think about it in terms of: what you want to do08:37
DekaPink-I went to put VMware in full screen mode and everything went a little nuts.08:37
mebegreedywell idk what i want to do08:37
mebegreedy:P08:37
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topylimebegreedy: you want to help development of free software, of course :)08:38
saber_i just watched the movie Boys N The Hood... i feel like a thug08:38
saber_heh08:38
mebegreedyhow would i learn to do thatr08:38
mebegreedyand why did ubuntu take like 10 min to load up08:39
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Zirlandplease advise me... I need kill logged user...  he's stuck in the system and I don't know, how to get rid of him08:39
topylimebegreedy: you find stuff you don't like and then you fix them :)08:40
saber_zirland: ps waux | grep ^username08:40
saber_zirland: then: kill -s 9 [pid] 08:40
Zirlandsaber_: i'll try. thanks08:40
mebegreedywhy is there so many people in here08:40
IcemanV9mebegreedy: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BasicCommands :P08:40
mebegreedythanx IcemanV9 and topyli08:41
mebegreedy:)08:41
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shidohow do i utilize 5.1 surround in ubuntu (soundmax)08:41
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MadpilotIcemanV9: thanks for that link, I've been looking for "BASH on one page"!08:42
IcemanV9Madpilot: ur welcome :)08:43
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mebegreedyso its kinda like dos commands just changed a little08:43
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Tezkahkind of like DOS except much more powerful08:45
mebegreedyyeah08:45
mebegreedyhow do you change the resolution :P08:45
Tezkahyou'll find things that you'd need to do in GUI in Windows easier to do in console in Linux08:45
cumii-thx alll08:45
Tezkahhmm, on GNOME?08:46
cumii-its work08:46
cumii-:p08:46
Tezkahyou should be able to use the GNOME settings...08:46
cumii-mwi mwi08:46
IcemanV9mebegreedy: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:46
cumii-IcemanV9 : how to play movie on ubuntu ? what program to use ????08:47
Seveascumii-: http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/RestrictedFormats08:47
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doogluscumii-: mplayer, totem, vlc, xine08:48
cumii-uhm... url plzzz08:48
IcemanV9cumii-: or you can throw in DVD and totem will automacigally play08:48
cumii-:D08:48
cumii-owh08:48
cumii-ok08:48
doogluscumii-: you don't need a URL - use the synaptic package manager, or 'apt-get'08:49
cumii-thx all08:49
cumii-restart ...08:49
TezkahTotem plays movies?   I thought it just crashed08:49
cumii-wait for a second08:49
cumii-:))08:49
cumii-:*08:49
Zirland:)08:49
IcemanV9Tezkah: it does on my box *shrug*08:49
TezkahI wonder if its just a kubuntu bug08:50
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mebegreedywhat irc do you use on ubuntu08:50
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Tezkahplenty of choices, including X-Chat08:51
dooglusmebegreedy: irssi08:51
IcemanV9Tezkah: check the bug database to see if there is workaround or just report it if none :)08:51
Zirlandxchat and irssi08:52
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mebegreedyi get a xml parsing error: not well formed08:54
mebegreedyon firefox08:55
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JohnnyRottenare there any dyndns clients that have a gui09:04
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kutucapehi all09:07
JohnnyRottenhi kutucape09:08
kutucapeare they sleepy?09:08
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kutucapethere's noone here09:09
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UbobtuCan someone please send me a good apt sources file?09:10
UbobtuI deleted mine09:10
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dougskUbobtu, try running apt-config09:11
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Ubobtuthat doesnt give me a new sources list09:11
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cafuegoapt-setup09:13
dougskUbobtu, sorry my mistake apt-setup is what you need09:13
Ubobtudoesnt someone have a good source list i could copy?09:13
cafuegoUbobtu: You can have mine, it only works if you're with my ISP though.09:14
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dougskUbobtu, ubuntuguide it's in your firefox bookmark09:14
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Ubobtuim using the one i got from ubuntu guide09:14
cumiiHELLO all i already open http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html but i dont know where is program compatible with ubuntu os... anyone help me plz09:14
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syironhello...09:16
JohnnyRottencan anyone help me get a program called linpal installed/working?09:16
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JohnnyRottenhttp://www.ruinedsoft.com/linpal/ is what i want to install09:17
cafuegoJohnnyRotten: Fetch the source and dependencies, then install into /usr/local09:18
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syironhello; how do i login terminal with root admin?09:19
Nicapplications > system tools > root terminal09:19
Nicwas it really that difficult? ;)09:19
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syironi want to login root admin in deskto09:19
cafuegosyiron: Why?09:20
Ubobtuno you don't09:20
Nicthere is no root account enable by default09:20
syironi cannot login for set printter09:20
syironwait.09:20
cafuegosyiron: You can do that as normal user, it will ask for root if it needs it.09:20
Nicyou should be able to do everything using sudo or gksudo09:20
syironFailed to run users-admin:09:20
syiron Wrong password.09:20
Nicdid u enter your user password09:21
cafuegosyiron: Well, type the right password then!09:21
Nicand what are you opening/typing to get that09:21
JohnnyRotteni have the source not sure what to do from there i think i have all the dependencies09:21
cafuegoJohnnyRotten: Unpack it, run ./configure --prefix=/usr/local09:21
syironsystem>administration > users and group09:21
cafuegosyiron: it wants *your* password.09:22
syironyes.09:22
Nicyeah type in the correct password09:22
syironi put the root passwd. error09:22
Nicworks fine for me09:22
Nicthere is no root password09:22
cafuegosyiron: There is *no* root password09:22
syironwhat password?09:22
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Nicuse your user password09:22
Ubobtujust do this type "sudo passwd"09:23
Ubobtuthen you can select a new root password09:23
cafuegoUbobtu: What is the point of that?09:23
Methynutnutsyiron: btw, the information about that is in the FAQ09:23
Ubobtuso you can use root to login09:23
cafuegoUbobtu: What would be the point to logging in as root?09:23
Ubobtuin a terminal09:23
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Ubobtunot logging in09:24
Ubobtujust a terminal09:24
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Nicubobto: one of the benifits of using sudo is no root account/pwd09:24
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cafuegoUbobtu: 'sudo bash' does that.09:24
newbbiehi all09:24
syironhm..09:25
syironi so stuck now using ubuntu09:25
JohnnyRottenit says no such file for configure09:25
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syironwhat the command line to open menu box?09:25
NicJohnnyRotten, make sure you are in the directory you unpacked the file too09:25
Nicsyiron, menu box?09:25
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syironNic; yes.. like on freebsd type /stand/sysinstall how about ubuntu?09:26
JohnnyRotteni am09:26
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Nicive never used freebsd09:27
Nicso i have no idea what that does09:27
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syironit does we can select what we want to configure09:27
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Nicive only ever used gtk configure applications so i dunno09:28
dougskJohnnyRotten, it appears they offer a binary version plus source download, I'm on hoary and I was able to run the precompiled binary.09:28
newbbiehey, somebody told me to get a program named "gtk", so I've checked with synaptic and saw that I had three "libgtk2.0-X" packages installed... (among those, one called "-bin", that said it had the program files used by the library)... does that mean that I already have the program installed?09:28
JohnnyRottenso i can just download the binary?09:29
cewekbenerannih#lesbi09:29
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dougskJohnnyRotten, ya and once you untar it just do ./linpal  it appears to depend on curl so apt-get install curl09:29
UsefulIdiothow can I order the process listing in "top" by amount of memory used.. or is there another way to find the program using the most memory under the command line?09:30
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FikrannHello folks.09:30
JohnnyRottenk im going have to wait a bit to get curl downloading updates right now09:31
ivoksZuleyhaa: cut the crap09:31
Dethreadyeah09:31
Dethreadjust did it to me, too09:31
FikrannIs bob2 around?09:32
ivoksbob2: ping09:32
ivoksAmaranth: ping09:32
FikrannDethread, I got spammed as well.09:32
JohnnyRottenare there any programs like open office except smaller? 80+ meg updates suck on dialup09:32
J0elmy modem connects from ubuntu but it disconnects09:33
J0elcud i get some help09:33
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J0elor is there any other dialer i cud use09:33
Nicif you just want word processing JohnnyRotten there is abiword09:33
DelgulJohnnyRotten: vi? :-)09:33
FikrannJohnnyRotten, you might try kwrite or abiword09:33
Hyphenatered!09:34
MethynutnutWell I'd just like to announce that alsa works far better on unbuntu compared with FC3 ;)09:34
dooglussyiron: you mean "synaptic" maybe?09:34
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dooglusJohnnyRotten: "gnumeric" is a good spreadsheet, "abiword" does word processing.09:34
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FikrannJ0el, try wvdial, its the best dialer around.09:35
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Highbiehey, does anybody know how to change it so link extentions will show and i can change them?09:35
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Highbiethis is windows not ubuntu >.<09:35
J0elFikran , i tried wvdial , it dosent even initialise my modem09:35
J0elim connecting using the Networking thing.09:36
Highbiethis file of mine i downloaded somehow turned into a link, and i can't change it back and i can't access the file09:36
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J0elis there any other dialer?09:36
ivoksptlo: pozdrav09:36
dooglusHighbie: yes, go to an explorer window, then one of the menus lets you get into 'folder options' (I think).  It's in there, called "hide extensions for known types"09:36
ptloivoks, hello there! :)09:36
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newbbiehey, somebody told me to get a program named "gtk", so I've checked with synaptic and saw that I had three "libgtk2.0-X" packages installed... (among those, one called "-bin", that said it had the program files used by the library)... does that mean that I already have the program installed?09:36
Highbieit shows exnteions, just not for .links though09:36
Highbieextentions*09:36
JohnnyRottendougsk, is curl a big download?09:36
Tomcat_newbbie: gtk is not a program, it's a library.09:37
Highbieall the links still have no file extention09:37
doogluscurl: Size: 16529009:37
HyphenaterHighbie: by link do you mean shortcut?09:37
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newbbieTomcat: ah... ok, then... but does that mean that it is already installed, then?09:37
Highbieyes, the file extention for a shortcut09:37
dougskJohnnyRotten, installed sig nm dooglas got it09:37
Highbiei have a file that somehow turned into a shortcut09:37
Highbiei want to view the .link extention so i can get rid of it09:38
FikrannJ0el, if any other dialer gets you conneted but wvdial can't, it means you didn't configure wvdial correctly.09:38
Tomcat_newbbie: It's installed when you install Ubuntu... and you probably can't deinstall it if you use Gnome.09:38
J0elshould i show u ,my wvdial.conf?09:38
dooglusHighbie: hit windows-r then type "cmd" and hit return.  you'll be in a 'shell' window (such as it is) where you can 'cd' to the directory and "rename" the file09:38
syironSetting up xmms (1.2.10-2ubuntu1) ...09:38
syironErrors were encountered while processing:09:38
syiron gnome-applets-data09:38
syiron gnomemeeting09:38
syiron ubuntu-desktop09:38
syironE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)09:38
syironroot@Dkay:~ #09:38
Highbieok, thanks09:38
UsefulIdiotgarr. I have to memory, yet the program taking the most memory according to top is using 2%, and not many at all above 1%09:38
newbbieTomcat: ah... ok. thanks, Tomcat... :)09:39
UsefulIdiot*no memory09:39
HyphenaterHighbie: I don't see how that could happen, try right-clicking > properties > shortcut > target09:39
HyphenaterSee where the shortcut is pointing09:39
Highbiefor some reason it saved into a saitek programmable keyboard.link09:39
Highbiesame kinda keyboard i use09:39
dougskJ0el, it could be line noise, incompatibilities in modem protocols, timed logouts etc.  If your logging in successfully now with something then I expect results prolly won't change by using a different front end.09:39
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Fikrannnewbbie, gtk is a set of libraries on which your current desktop enviroinment is based. (assuming you're running Gnome, not kde) So yes, you have it installed.09:40
Highbiesince it's an invalid shortcut, all the options can't be used09:40
JohnnyRottenhas anyone here got linspires aol dialer to work in ubuntu it looks nicer than the penggy deb im using09:40
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DekaPinkI'm back... Again~09:40
DekaPinkThis time... My question is: How do I uninstall something I installed from source? Should there be some kind of uninstall script somewhere or something?09:41
FikrannJ0el, dougsk is right.09:41
Highbiehow do i rename a file in cmd?09:41
dougskDekaPink, in the directory where the source configure script is type make uninstall for a start09:41
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newbbieFikrann: got it, Fikrann. thanks... :)09:41
FikrannDekaPink, make uninstall in your source directory usually does the trick.09:41
HyphenaterHighbie: copy09:41
J0elFikrann can i pm u?09:42
FikrannJ0el, yes.09:42
DekaPinkOkay, thanks. :D09:42
Highbieno, i meant how can you use the command rename in the fake dos cmd09:42
UsefulIdiotwoah... My computer has been on for about a week, left on gdm as I hadn't logged in anyway except ssh yet, and there was no memory left. When I logged into gdm, suddenly I have 3/4 memory free ?09:43
JohnnyRottenis there a way to run apt-get when downloading something with synaptic?09:43
FikrannHighbie, are you sure you're asking this question in right channel?09:43
FikrannJohnnyRotten, no09:43
Highbieyeah, the operating system put in more ram09:43
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Highbiei'm def in the wrong channel, but i doubt there is a windows help channel and you guys probably know09:44
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dougskHighbie, the command I think your looking for is move aka mv orig.name new.name09:44
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matthiashello people!09:45
JohnnyRottenhello matthias09:45
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matthiascan only people in this chat where have linux on the pc?09:46
cowbudanyone run mlgui and get an error about the font -*-*-*-*-* etc not supporting all required characters?09:46
Highbieyay, my anime is fixed, bleach 34 will rule!09:46
DekaPinkIn the immortal words of Judith... "Whenever you feel, and the other person feels... It's good to have sex and go for it."09:47
Highbiewhat if they feel and it's not as good for them as it is for you09:47
Highbiethe seesaw doesn't go up both sides!09:47
dougskmatthias, no I've not run mlgui, but the form looks like old bitmap fonts for x11 maybe xfontsel will help?09:48
DekaPinkThen you ditch them and make sweet sweet love to your best friend Jimmy.09:48
Highbiei prefer jimmy's mom09:48
dougskHiBall, I thought it was stacy's mom?09:48
Highbienah, but she has it going on09:49
dougskoops s/HiBall/Highbie09:49
DekaPinkShe's not available because she's a total skank. She's having sex with all of Jimmy's other friends.09:49
DekaPinkJimmy's willing to dress up in her clothes, though.09:49
bob2er09:49
dougsklmao09:49
bob2a) off-topic, b) http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct09:49
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Highbiespeaking of which, they have the hottest fake chicks in the longest yard09:49
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dooglusHighbie: what does it say if you just run "rename" without arguments?  Or "rename/?"?09:50
Highbiei have no clue, incorrect syntaxx?09:50
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DekaPinkThe Elimidate is affecting my mind.09:51
Highbiewow, i can't believe those date shows haven't been canceled yet09:51
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Highbietoo bad blind date probably gets horrible ratings now09:51
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mindspinHighbie, where are you?09:52
Highbieoakland09:52
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mindspinIC09:52
DekaPinkThey aren't canceled... Just on at 2 AM. xD09:52
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Madpilotan actual Ubuntu question: how the heck do I get Nautilus to open as a max/full screen window? it keeps opening too small09:52
mindspinsame bad tv stuff all over the world09:52
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dougskso is the really cool network config tool part of sabayon or something ubuntu built?09:53
Highbiei want to go to japan, they have polluted beaches so they built a giant indoor beach with loads of hot japanese chicks in bikinis09:53
bob2dougsk: gnome-system-tools09:53
digitushow can i paste from clipboard into xterm?09:53
DekaPinkI also want to go to Japan... because... Uh... Okay, I don't have a reason.09:53
mindspinHighbie, what about a cold shower?09:53
digitusctrl+shift+v doesn't work09:53
mindspinhelps sometimes09:54
Ubobtuhow can i set konquer as my default file browser?09:54
dougskbob2, ah right on thanks09:54
Dethreaddigitus, ctrl+shift+v09:54
Dethreadhm09:54
thekoreukdigitus, click both left and right buttons at the same time in the terminal09:54
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bob2digitus: middle couck?09:54
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bob2er, click.09:54
Highbiei tried, but it's hard to pleasure myself in cold water09:54
bob2Ubobtu: #kubuntu09:54
digitusaaaah thx!09:54
mindspinUbobtou install kubuntu09:54
Fikranndigitus, try third mouse button.09:54
bob2Highbie: come on dude09:54
DekaPinkI want to become a hot Japanese girl in a bikini so I can walk around on a fake beach and attract good-looking foreigners.09:54
digitusmouse1 + mouse2 works09:54
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digitusmouse3 too.. :>09:54
JohnFights./linpal: error while loading shared libraries: libcurl.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory09:55
thekoreuk:) there are a number of ways which usually vary for distro... but one of those stated will always work09:55
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JohnFightsi did apt-get for curl but its not working09:55
Ubobtubob2, i dun wanna change to kde i just wanna use konquer for my file browser in Gnome09:55
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icemanany one know a old linux distro that will run on a 486 dx 100 system09:55
bob2JohnFights: where did you get that binary from?09:55
DekaPinkUbuntu is like crack... I can't tear myself away.09:55
bob2iceman: ubuntu09:55
hyphenatedJohnFights: where did you get 'linpal' from?09:55
bob2Ubobtu: that's pushing the definition of "in gnome"09:55
JohnFightsruinedsoft web page09:55
dougskUbobtu, look at update-alternatives09:56
[1] omgwtfCan anyone tell me what they recommend for system specs to run ubuntu?09:56
JohnFightshttp://www.ruinedsoft.com/linpal09:56
Highbiecan you play wow on linux operating systems?09:56
icemanbob2 will it run x09:56
bob2ubotu: find libcurl.so.209:56
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FikrannUbobtu, apt-get konqueror, and voila.09:56
bob2iceman: if course...09:56
bob2er, "of"09:56
ubotuUbuntu Search of 'libcurl.so.2' (1 shown): (/usr/lib/{libcurl.so.2|libcurl.so.2.0.2}) in universe/libs/libcurl2.09:56
icemanbob2 ... gnome ? or kde ...09:56
bob2[1] omgwtf: for gnome, you'd want a p2-400 with 256mb of ram to be comfortable09:56
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Highbiewhy the heck does the mac only have 1 mouse click?09:56
icemanouch09:56
bob2iceman: I'm pretty sure we've had this conversation five thousands times now09:56
Methynutnutbob2: Have you had any break at all for the last couple of hours? :P09:57
Highbiewatch them make a mouse with one main button, and a bunch of secondary buttons on the sides09:57
bob2iceman: if you want to run X on a 486, use something like fluxbox09:57
Highbieit'll still be considered a 1 button mac mouse though, them bastards09:57
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bob2Highbie: this seems kinda off-topic and trolly09:57
[1] omgwtfbob: Could a celeron 500 /w 256 pc100 feel ok?09:57
[1] omgwtf*533mhz even09:57
bob2[1] omgwtf: should be fine09:57
[1] omgwtfalright, thank09:58
Fikrann[1] omgwtf, yes09:58
[1] omgwtf*thanks09:58
bob2[1] omgwtf: OO will be about the only thing that will really tax it09:58
Ubobtuwho in here is on Kde?09:58
mindspinme09:58
bob2Ubobtu: #kubuntu is full of kde users...09:58
_sethUbobtu, you might want to go to #kubuntu09:58
icemanbob2  dont think it has a nic card in it ... old desktop09:58
JohnFightsdougsk, do you know why it still wont work?09:58
Ubobtuno i just wanna see if KDE works better than gnome09:58
bigfoothi fellow Ubuntists, I'm looking for an internet service that can monitor webpages to see if they have changed. And if the webpage changes, it will then send you an email to let you know. Does anybody here have a way to track websites, without having to visit each one manually? I used to use netmind.com, but that service is gone. Thank.09:58
DekaPinkI'm curious... How does one pronounce Ubuntu? Currently, I think it's You-Bun-Too.09:58
mindspinprimary its a matter of taste i think09:59
bob2Ubobtu: that is of course subjective, try both and see which one YOU like09:59
Highbiehow crap, something like that used to exist?09:59
Highbieholy*09:59
Ubobtulol09:59
bob2DekaPink: oo-boon-too09:59
Highbiewonder why netminds went outta business09:59
DekaPinkbob2: Thank you. :D09:59
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bob2bigfoot: that's like 4 lines of shell scripting09:59
icemanbob2 ... was hopping to get a old linux version... that might play nice on a old old old machine ...09:59
bob2iceman: why would an older one work better than a newer one?10:00
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HyphenaterHe's used to windows10:00
icemanbob2 ... kde .. used it way back in redhat 5.2 ... seemed ok ...10:00
bob2iceman: that's kde, not distributions10:00
bigfootdo tell, bob2. 8-). But I don't want to be bothered with small changes in webpages (such as if an  ad on the page has changed, or when the "current date" has changed). ONly want it to notify me when there's actual content that has been changed.10:00
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icemanbob2 just dont see a archive for it10:01
bob2iceman: for kde 1?10:01
icemanbob2 so much bloat in newer installs ...10:01
bob2bigfoot: ok!10:01
bob2iceman: bloat is subjective10:01
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Methynutnutbigfoot: how are you supposed to tell the difference, from a computer's perspective, between an ad or a text change?10:01
dougskLooks like it depends on libcurl2.  I've libcurl2 and libculr3 installed according to dpkg --get-selections10:01
icemanbob2 ... true .. just best way to desctibe it ... this will only have a 2 gig hdd ....10:02
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Hyphenatericeman: try looking for a distro intended for a usb drive10:02
Methynutnutbigfoot: of course, it's easy if the text you want to examine for change is all within one frame10:02
bigfootMethynutnut, I don't know. But just to make things clear, the thing i said about text change is that I want there to be some sort of threshold first that has to be reached before i am notified of the change.10:02
bob2iceman: disk space is not going to be your problem10:03
JohnnyRottenyeah it does i just found libcurl2 with synaptic10:03
bob2bigfoot: define how to calculate the level of "change"10:03
JohnnyRottenapt-get installed libcurl310:03
icemanbob2 ... small processor ... limited ram ... all issues10:03
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bigfootbob2, like maybe, the equivalent of 2 paragraphs of text being added or removed.10:03
bob2iceman: yes, I know.  why do you think ubuntu will have problems with that?10:03
nernhey hey hey10:04
Methynutnutbigfoot: ya fair enough, but it's hard to implement sort of "soft" triggers like that10:04
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JohnnyRottenhmm more errors bunch of new ones this time :(10:04
bob2paste them to #flood10:05
icemanbob2 ... preformance ... based on the bloat ... works great and i'm please with ubuntu on the p4 ... but on a 486 100 ... at least some preformance might be nice10:05
GNAMyes, the bittorrent tracker is down started weeks ago10:05
bigfootbob2, or maybe, viewing the Current Page and then telling the Notifier Program that if a phrase is changed (i.e. "Number of Posts: 4"  becomes something other than that) , to notify me.10:05
Fikranniceman, no kde will work well on 48610:05
bob2iceman: ok, please, stop spouting things without thinking10:06
icemanusing kubuntu10:06
bob2iceman: what particular programs do you think are going to be "bloat" on a 486?10:06
dougskFikrann, your being facetious right?10:06
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bob2kde3 on a 486 will be like washing your eyes out with glass shards10:06
icemanbob2 whats hard drive needed for full install10:06
dougskbob2, nice analogy -- oof ouch10:06
bob2iceman: 1.8GB10:07
bob2bigfoot: cool, offer money and someone will do it10:07
JohnnyRottenbob2, i pasted them in there10:07
icemanbob2 wow .. pushing that 2 gig to the limit ...10:07
bob2iceman: dude10:07
bob2iceman: think for a moment10:07
bob2iceman: if you're using fluxbox, you can remove gnome10:07
Fikranndougsk, I meant that it'd work horribly; I simply phrased that wrong.10:08
bob2iceman: and 600MB of that 1.8GB is for package cache, so that's 600MB saved as soon as the install is done10:08
bob2JohnnyRotten: either the tarball is incomplete, or you installed it wrong10:08
DekaPinkOkay, I've got a craving for Xena now... :310:08
dougskiceman, you should be able to pick up ten gig for about 10-15 bucks from goodwill or the local whitebox shop10:08
dougskFikrann, ah okay thanks10:08
icemanbob2 no way to download flux ... no nic to download ... but might try it ...10:08
bob2iceman: so burn it to a cd10:09
bob2iceman: or spend $3 on a nic10:09
bob2iceman: or use a floppy10:09
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icemandougsk no where close has a 10 gig or even good hardware ... maybe a 3 or 4 hour drive ..10:09
Fikrannfluxbox should fit on a floppy, yes.10:09
icemanwow ... flux on a floppy ... ;)10:10
bigfootbob2,actually, there's some sort of a "replacement" to what netmind offered a few years ago. changedetect.com. But I'm not sure how to get it configured to the right sensitivity.10:10
Methynutnutit's only a few hundred K10:10
JustOneItHi! :) is it possible to make the system use my .xinitrc file when i connect through another user?10:10
bob2JustOneIt: why don't you "connect" as your user?10:11
JohnnyRottenthanks yes it was incomplete the one i downloaded just had the binary and the other files where missing10:11
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dougskiceman, ebay plus shipping is your friend. OT rant -- I think disk space should be a relativley non-issue especially for ubuntu and what appears to be ubuntu's goals.  Possibly look into netbsd or damnsmall10:12
FikrannJustOneIt, copy it to the other user's home dir.10:12
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Fikranndougsk, I do agree.10:12
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JustOneItbob2: i mean when i start with my user i want to use icewm instad of gnome... i did it, but it doesn't read my .xinitrc... :(10:12
icemani know some questions might seem " DUM" but i learn from asking ..10:13
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bob2JustOneIt: right, unless you choose the "debian session" or whatever it is in gdm10:13
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JohnnyRottenthank for your help dougsk10:13
Methynutnuticeman: sure, but don't be too fast to disregard documentation10:13
icemantrue ...10:13
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dougskJohnnyRotten, I didn't do it, you did, but I'll take credit anyways10:14
JustOneItbob2: ok... is it possible to disble gdm?10:14
JohnnyRottenlol10:14
FikrannJustOneIt, check if you selected right option while logging in with your [g|k|w|x] dm10:14
WhiteDoveHi again people10:14
bob2JustOneIt: sure, just uninstall it10:14
icemanbob2 know how to mask ip ...10:14
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JustOneItFikrann: where i can change option?10:15
bob2iceman: "mask ip"?10:15
icemanip masqurade10:15
bob2iceman: install ipmasq on the ubuntu router machine10:16
JohnnyRottenanyone know of any dyndsn clients for gnome/kde?10:16
Methynutnuticeman: that's something completely different10:16
WhiteDoveCould someone give me a hand please, Im REALLY stuck10:16
mindspingo ahead10:16
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FikrannJustOneIt, it depends on which dm are you using, but you usually have some sort of 'choose session' button laying around.10:16
icemanill work on that on ubuntu tomarrow ... night all10:17
icemanbob2 thanks again10:17
WhiteDovewell, you see, Im stuck at setting up my wireless network card10:17
bob2JohnnyRotten: why would you use a gui client for that?10:17
mindspinsorry dunno nothing about wireless (hate it)10:18
MethynutnutJohnnyRotten: I've just used the commandline no-ip.org client10:18
WhiteDoveanyone know anything about wireless?10:18
JohnnyRottenthe ipcheck one didnt work for me10:18
WhiteDoveyeah it is a bitch mindspin10:18
mindspinno I hate wireless at all ;-) for several reasons10:19
HyphenaterWhiteDove: you have to give specific questions if you want help10:19
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WhiteDoveoh okay, well see, its simple I can't set it up, lol. I've tried two tutorials already but they didn't work10:20
JohnnyRottenwill the microsoft usb wireless adapter work in linux :)10:20
MethynutnutIt also helps to say what exactly what you're trying to achieve, rather than what you've done and asking why it doesn't work10:20
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WhiteDoveI have a: Belkin G 54MB/s wirless card, lspci identifies it as this, however: 0000:02:00.0 Network controller: RaLink Ralink RT2500 802.11 Cardbus Reference Card (rev 01)10:21
FikrannJohnnyRotten, you have about 40% chance to get it working.10:21
WhiteDoveand Im trying to get it set up and recognised in the network admin tool10:21
JohnnyRottenhow would i a go about trying to get it working10:22
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FikrannWhiteDove, http://www.bb-zone.com/misc/rt2500/10:22
JohnnyRotteni was thinking it was 0% chance10:23
Tallia1ySOMEONE COULD BAN: ASLI_ erika and esra_17f ........ they're sending spam everywhere......10:24
bob2Tallia1: please chill out10:24
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dougskWhiteDove, I'd look here http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page  It appears as if it's been recently gpl'ed10:24
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FikrannJohnnyRotten, ndiswrapper seems to work with the windoze driver, but the only card I tried it on died the same day I got ndiswrapper to work.10:24
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dougskwd10:25
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Tallia1bob2: tnx10:26
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WhiteDovethank you :)10:27
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DelWorkwhen i start up gnomebaker it fails, and tells me "device out of bounds" - anyone know what to with this?10:32
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WhiteDoveso um guys, I've untarred it, what do I do now, sorry Im a bit of a newb at compiling10:32
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fabshello all10:32
fabsGuys, is it really important to use an Antivirus on Linux sys10:33
WhiteDovenever mind, I found a faq, lol10:33
MethynutnutWhiteDove: look for files called README or INSTALL, or a doc or docs directory10:33
bob2no10:33
NicWhiteDove, ./configure10:33
bob2fabs: there isn't really any nead for it10:33
fabsbob2, oh I see thx, cos I just found a guide about ClamAV10:34
Methynutnutfabs: Just make sure you know what rm -rf does and you should be fine10:34
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fabsMethynutnut, sure np, ta10:34
bob2fabs: yeah, it exists, but it's mostly for scanning things for windows machines10:34
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dougskfabs, the point to clamav akaict is for running on a linux mail server to prtect winboxen10:34
WhiteDoveargh no, not this page again, this is what happened last time, and it didn't work grrr10:35
fabsoh is there any way to keep the sys in good shape, I mean keeping it up speed?10:35
fabsdougsk, thx clearer now :)10:35
bob2fabs: yo udon't really need to do anything10:35
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WhiteDovesee, I followed this page to the letter and it didn't work: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo/10:35
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MethynutnutWhiteDove: You need to be specific, what went wronG?10:36
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fabsbob2, oh that's great, cos I was thinking something like diskdefrag10:36
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bob2fabs: linux filesystems don't tend to get fragmented10:37
fabsbob2, oh paradise :)10:37
WhiteDoveI couldn't find it in administration-> networking after I did a make10:37
WhiteDovelike it said I would10:37
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WhiteDoveoops, lol10:38
Methynutnutdo you have the module running?10:38
fabsbob2, so its just no worries to keeping it tidy and clean then10:39
WhiteDoveIm not sure, I'll go through the process again10:39
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bob2fabs: there's not much to do, they tend to just run...10:39
Methynutnuterm, you could just try: modprobe rt2500.ko10:39
LujeHello, everyone.10:39
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dougskWhiteDove, it appears as if the makefile doesn't work in ubuntu--looking for /lib/modules/uname -r/build/, it might require the kernel headers and some such, not sure10:40
bob2to build kernel modules, you need to "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)"10:40
WhiteDovealready got them, it was part of the steps10:41
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WhiteDoveguys, is: sudo insmod rt2500.ko supposed to show me something?10:42
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bob2no10:42
bob2don't use insmod10:42
WhiteDoveoh, okay10:43
WhiteDoveis it bad if I already have?10:43
bob2no10:43
WhiteDoveokay10:43
bob2but things may not work if you do10:43
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WhiteDove:s10:43
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FikrannWhiteDove, use sudo modprobe rt2500 .. it shouldn't show anything if it succeeds.10:43
QuaruptedHow can I copy a dir and all its subfolders?10:43
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bob2Quarupted: cp -a10:44
Quaruptedcp /old/dir /new/dir -a ?10:44
WhiteDoveah, it says that its not found10:44
WhiteDovedamn it10:44
bob2Quarupted: yes10:44
bob2Quarupted: tho it's customary to put the -a before the paths10:44
FikrannWhiteDove, did you run make install and depmod -a10:45
Fikrann?10:45
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WhiteDoveno, it just told me is do a make10:45
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esherExtension System Warning: Failed to set up default extensions files probably because you do not have write privileges to this location. While you can run Firefox like this, it is recommended that you run it at least once with privileges that allow it to generate these initial files to improve start performance. Running from a disk image on MacOS X is not recommended.10:45
esher(Gecko:31073): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Cannot create pipe for GnomeVFSProcess initialization: Too many open files10:45
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Quaruptedhow can i give a folder full perms for everyone?10:45
eshermy firefox wont start10:45
esherany idea ?10:46
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bob2Quarupted: chmod ugo=rwx ./dir/10:46
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MethynutnutQuarupted: chmod -R 0777 <foldername>10:46
bob2Quarupted: be very careful, though...10:46
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bob2Methynutnut: making files executable could be problematic10:46
Methynutnutyeah true10:46
Methynutnutdisregard -R10:46
bob2esher: what odd thing have you done?10:46
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rudolfHello all.10:47
WhiteDoveargh, brain hurting, lol10:47
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_sethHey guys. Any idea why when I try to download a file using Firefox, I get errors about XML parsing syntax error?10:47
WhiteDoveit said: grep: /etc/modprobe.conf: No such file or directory10:47
dougskWhiteDove, I followed bob2's advice about installing kernel headers and the make file compiled succsessfully10:47
shawarma_seth: Have you upgraded Mozilla and not restarted it?10:47
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peanutHi. How can I get procmail to only include a file if it exists?10:48
dougskWhiteDove, not having the card I can't go much further10:48
WhiteDoveyeah10:48
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_sethshawarma, well, what do you know.....10:48
shawarma_seth: If you upgrade it you need to close firefox totally. Also the download manager.. Do that, start it again and voila!10:48
shawarma_seth: :-D10:48
_sethshawarma, totally forgot I had updated...10:49
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peanutPlease can bilge and hatice be banned? They're sending joiners a link to a website with a virus10:50
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Nica windows virus?10:50
shawarmaNic: Yup10:50
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Nicpfft10:50
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Nicshit happens ;)10:50
johnnybezakhey hey10:50
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peanutNic:  I'm presuming its a virus. the message is Photo hXXp://busecik.aLLhyper.com/photo.jpg10:50
_sethYeah, I got those also.10:51
peanuti change the http to hXXp10:51
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MethynutnutA JPEG virus?10:51
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peanutwhen i go there, i get a download prompt10:51
peanutthanks10:51
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shawarmapeanut: Yup, and it tries to open some .exe-file10:51
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Methynutnutthose are sneaky10:51
peanutdanke :)10:51
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rudolfMethynutnut: No, not jpeg but script auto-run win executable.10:51
peanutNow my procmail question! Can procmail be told only to include a file if it exists?10:52
Methynutnutah ok10:52
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Methynutnutthanks, rudolf10:52
bob2peanut: better off asking on the procmail list, or the ubuntu-user list10:52
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peanutbob2:  ok thanks10:52
johnnybezakhey guys how do I change xterm colours10:53
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bob2johnnybezak: with X resources10:53
reamtSIs it true that 'xcompmgr' only works in KDE?10:53
bob2reamtS: no10:53
johnnybezakbob2: where's that at?10:53
bob2johnnybezak: you set them in ~/.Xdefaults10:53
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bob2it's not all that simple to explain10:53
Red13hey all10:53
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johnnybezakbob2: ok ill check it out10:54
Red13can anyone help me with printer networking?10:54
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shawarmaRed13: Just ask your question. It's easier that way.10:54
reamtSbob2: sweet jesus, it works =)10:54
Red13lol, sorry10:54
dibloHi10:55
Red13ive just started using ubuntu on my machine in the office, and we have a netowrked photocopier for priniting, but i cant seem to get connected10:55
Quaruptedhow long should a 40GB cp of an ntfs to a fat32 partition take?10:56
bob2long time10:56
shawarmaQuarupted: Same disk?10:56
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QuaruptedYes10:56
Quaruptedsame disk10:56
Nicvery long time then10:57
Nic;)10:57
bob2maybe hours if the disk is old10:57
Quaruptedlike how long?10:57
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Quaruptedthe disk is altra ATA 10,000 rpm10:57
shawarmaQuarupted: Hour and a half, I guess.10:57
Quaruptedultra10:57
FikrannRed13, it should be using standard lpr queue, like most of them do. Try nmapping it and check if it has port 515 open.10:58
shawarmaQuarupted: How long as it taken so far?10:58
dibloUDMA 10000RPM + 1TB10:58
Quaruptedlike 10 mins10:58
diblogood10:58
Red13thanx, ill give it a go :)10:58
Quaruptedmine is 4 TB10:58
QuaruptedServer drive10:58
dibloSATA sucks10:58
dibloSATA II sucks10:59
Quaruptedya10:59
shawarmaQuarupted: Oh.. Go read a book or something. You've got a long wait ahead of you.10:59
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dibloSCSI lol10:59
Fikranngo FibreChannel10:59
MethynutnutYa know, PATA gets the job done10:59
batma8im using beep media player to play divx, mp3 and xvid,and ogle to play my dvds10:59
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batma8but when i try to open video, or dvds..the programs just shutdown11:00
batma8any ideas?11:00
bigfootQuestion to any person who plays media files on his computer: i get pink streaks running on Totem while I'm playing a movie file. How can I stop it? The panel shows that only 5% of the processor is being used. Can I somehow stop all other programs and just run the movie player? Or will getting out of the GUI help?11:00
diblobatma8:  good idea11:00
HarnakWhat do the values when you see the load average mean? For example when you see 1.56 what does the 1.56 represent?11:00
Fikrannbatma8, run them from console, so you'll see the exact error.11:00
bob2bigfoot: what video chipset?11:00
bigfootbob2, how can i tell+11:00
bigfoot?11:00
Fikrannbigfoot, switch to xine. You won't be disappointed.11:01
shawarmaHarnak: Average number of running processes.11:01
bob2Harnak: that, in theory, on avaerage, 1.56 processes wanted to run in the past minute11:01
diblobatma8:  $xmms11:01
bob2Fikrann: how would that help?11:01
batma8xmms?11:01
bob2bigfoot: you don't know what hardware you computer has?11:01
Harnakshawarma: thanks!11:01
diblobatma8:  $ggplayer11:01
WhiteDoveum, Im getting an error when I do: sudo cp ~/rt2500-cvs-2005601/Module/rt2500.ko /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/11:01
shawarmaHarnak: No problem.11:01
bob2Harnak: it doesn't mean much, except that higher = more stuff wanted to run11:01
bigfootbob2, not exactly. But I think my copmuter doesn't have a high-tech dedicated video card. But I'm not sure.11:01
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shawarmaWhiteDove: When you're sudoing ~ points to /root and not /home/whitedove or whatever11:02
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bob2bigfoot: paste the output of "lspci | grep VGA" in here11:02
QuaruptedMan its taking forever11:02
batma8dvdreadblocks failed11:02
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bigfootbob2, 0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82815 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller]  (rev 04)11:02
bob2Quarupted: you don't actually have to sit there the whole time...11:03
shawarmabob2: *G*11:03
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patrikmhi all11:03
Noobixhi11:03
lovely_beeroehi.........11:03
bob2bigfoot: close totem.  run "gstreamer-properties" -> video -> default output, aqnd select "X windows (no Xv)".11:03
batma8Fikrann: dvdreadblocks failed11:03
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shawarmaQuarupted: Seriously, go find something else to do besides looking at that transfer. It's no fun at all.11:04
Quaruptedbob2, what else am i gunna do the old lady is passed out11:04
patrikmQUESTION : ipw2100 : firmware no loaded after kernel recompile. any idea ?11:04
bob2patrikm: don't recompile your kernel then11:04
bob2patrikm: what doesn't the default support?11:04
pregoI cannot auth backports packages. I've followed ubuntuguide instructions about that, but still unable to authentificate... what's wrong?11:04
bob2prego: ask on the forums, after reading the backport webpage11:05
patrikmbob2, default is ok11:05
shawarmaQuarupted: Dunno... Nosepicking does the trick for me most of the time.11:05
Quaruptedlol11:05
patrikmbob2, but with /boot/config-default : no chance11:05
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bob2patrikm: I don't know what you're talking about.  why are you compiling your own kernel, though?11:05
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shawarmaQuarupted: You're bound to find something interesting if you're digging for an hour and a half.11:05
Fikrannbatma8, I've no idea what can that mean.11:06
QuaruptedLast time i got bored i decided to rm -rf /   and see if i could stop it before it broke11:06
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batma8yah..me neither11:06
bigfootbob2, do i have to remember this last piece of instructions? I mean, will there be a time when i should not be using "Xwindows (No Xv)"?11:06
bob2bigfoot: did it work?11:06
patrikmbob2, to change the CPU id11:06
bigfootbob2, yes, playing movies in totem is a lot smoother!11:07
patrikmbob2, amongst other stuff : no big change from default oldconfig though11:07
bob2patrikm: why do you want to do that?11:07
bob2patrikm: it's so much easier to just not do this11:07
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Quaruptedi have to install windows for my wire, if i do it will screw up my bootloader huh?11:07
patrikmbob2, i want to be able to do what iwill on my sys11:07
bob2patrikm: you can do whatever you want11:08
patrikmbob2, includinf recomiling anutime11:08
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patrikmbob2, anytime11:08
Fikrannpatrikm, change you cpu is by far is the easiest way.11:08
bob2patrikm: but be aware that if you do things you don't understand, you will break your systemm11:08
batma8what do you guys use to watch dvd discs11:08
patrikmbob2, ok bobby11:08
Fikrannbatma8, xine11:08
Quaruptedxine11:08
bob2patrikm: the fix is to copy the firmware in /lib/hotplug/firmware/11:08
hyphenatedbatma8: mplayer or xine, depending on whether I want the menus or not11:08
batma8xine huh11:08
bob2patrikm: and please don't try to patronise people advising you11:08
Quaruptedsometimes totem11:08
MyrttiI managed to bork my firefox11:08
patrikmbob2, ok bobby11:08
Myrttidamnit11:08
hyphenatedI like mplayer's keyboard controls better than xine11:09
ke-vinanyone know if there's any ms access driver for java in linux?11:09
bob2moron11:09
patrikmbob2, ty bobby a loot11:09
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bob2bigfoot: the problem is a bug in either your X driver or your video hardware (I don't know which, but I have the same problem), so you can try switching it back whe nyou switch to breezy (possibly new X will work around/fix it)11:09
batma8so from synaptic id dload xine-ui11:10
batma8right?11:10
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Noobixumm... I'm a Linux noob (actually I'm using win XP at the moment *shudder*), I was just wondering if my USB modem will still work when i switch, i've had a few people tell me otherwise11:11
bigfootbob2, thanks for your reply. IF the problem lies in the Xdriver, does this mean that the software/code was not written well? And if the problem is with my videohardware, what is the problem with it?11:11
patrikmbob2, why do you want to play the smart guy bobby ?11:11
bob2Noobix: depends on the modem11:11
bob2patrikm: please just stop it11:11
Fikrannbatma8, yes11:11
RichiHif anyone gets spammed with onjoin stuff, please /msg me11:11
patrikmbob2, and why would you not want to fine tune yur ubuntu benetton system ?11:11
patrikmbob2, and why... and why11:12
bob2bigfoot: well, it depends; most video cards aren't documented very well, so the X programmers have to guess various things, and they may have guessed wrong11:12
Noobixbob2: do you know anything about a D-Link DSL-302G11:12
patrikmbob2, whyyyyyyyy11:12
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bob2patrikm: no more warnings11:12
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bob2Noobix: ah, yes, I'm talking to you via one right now11:12
patrikmbob2, cop is bobby11:12
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patrikmbob2, bobby is cop11:12
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Noobixbob2: ah cool, so I won't need to change it at all? not even plug it into ethernet instead?11:13
bob2bigfoot: I don't know what it being a hardware bug would entail, I don't know very much about that sort of thing11:13
bob2Noobix: I only ever used it via ethernet11:13
upgrdmanwhere is the kernel log? (not dmesg)11:13
bob2upgrdman: /var/log/kern.log?11:13
Noobixbob2: I don't think I can, its in a usb port atm :(11:13
bob2RichiH: same deal as #debian (people tend to tell me to kick them)?11:13
bob2Noobix: you don't have an ethernet carD?11:14
Noobixdont think so11:14
bigfootwill having the setting at "X windows (NoVx)" mean that the playback quality is in someway inferior to what it was before we made the change?11:14
bob2bigfoot: no11:14
bob2bigfoot: it will just use slightly mroe cpu11:14
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MyrttiMy firefox claims that the profile is in use when in fact it isn't. I've used links to search with google for help, and I've done what the knowledge base suggests, search for the lockfile. I can't however locate it. I've uninstalled firefox and reinstalled it and no help. What am I doing wrong?11:14
bob2Xvideo is an extension to X to make the video card do some more of the work if displaying video.11:14
bob2Myrtti: rm ~/.mozilla/firefox/blah/lock11:15
bob2Myrtti: (make sure you have all instance of it closed first)11:15
Noobixbrb11:15
bob2Myrtti: reinstalling it won't help11:15
RichiHbob2: of course. any spambot or some such you or anybody else notices should be /msg'ed to staff or reported in #freenode11:15
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bob2Noobix: I don't know if it works in usb mode or not, what does google say?11:15
MalsidHello11:15
Myrttibob2: did ps -axu |grep firefox, no running instances, cannot find the lockfile11:15
RichiHbob2: we had a smallish join wave across various channels. what bots were left i klined11:15
hyphenatedMyrtti: ~/.mozilla/firefox/*default*/lock11:16
shawarmaMyrtti: rm $HOME/.mozilla/firefox/*/lock11:16
RichiHbob2: but i don't know when the next wave is acoming11:16
Myrttioh11:16
bob2RichiH: ah, thanks11:16
Myrttiwhaddaya know11:16
_sethWhat package contains wlanctl-ng?11:16
bigfootbob2, your help, as always, is much appreciated. Thank you.11:16
MyrttiI must have wooden eyes11:16
MalsidMy mouse doesn't work. Any clues anybody?11:16
bob2_seth: linux-wlan-ng-tools or so11:16
bob2bigfoot: you're welcome.11:16
Noobixback11:16
MyrttiMalsid: change the batteries ;-)11:16
_sethTHanks bob2.11:16
Noobixbob2: Ill have a look now - or possibly there may be something on their site11:17
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MalsidMytrtti: Don't use batteries : )11:17
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_sethbob2, it was just linux-wlan-ng. Just for future reference, incase someone else asks.11:17
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HyphenaterMalsid: check your xorg.conf11:18
bob2_seth: ah, thanks11:18
bigfootbob2, i'm just playing around with  the output choices. How does Ascii Art (both options) work? All I get is gobbledygook in the terminal window.11:18
upgrdmanfor some reason, during bootup my raid1 mdX devices are not made early on enough, and i get fsck errors about no mdX nodes... but after booting up, i can mount my mdX nodes... how do i change the order of the init scripts?11:18
bob2_seth: I used to use it, seems my memory is failing me11:18
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n3m3s1sHello11:18
bob2bigfoot: the goobldygook should be a text version of the movie11:18
n3m3s1si have a problem :(11:18
bob2Noobix: best to just ask...11:18
MalsidHyphenator: Checked it... changed something brb.11:18
bigfoothow can you get a text version of a series of moving images, bob2?11:18
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bigfootDo you need to get a text movie first?11:19
bob2bigfoot: by drawing pixels as txt characters11:19
bob2no11:19
n3m3s1swhen i write : apt-get update11:19
n3m3s1si have this error : http://rafb.net/paste/results/SBaKyv66.html11:19
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upgrdmanfor some reason, during bootup my raid1 mdX devices are not made early on enough, and i get fsck errors about no mdX nodes... but after booting up, i can mount my mdX nodes... how do i change the order of the init scripts?11:20
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bob2you don't need to repeat11:20
shawarmabigfoot: Aalib can render images with regular characters.11:20
bob2I'm not sure it's safe to move the boot order, tho11:20
bob2you can just change the numbers at the start of the files in /etc/rc2.d11:21
upgrdmansory11:21
bigfootshawarma, i'd like to see it to understand how texts can show a movie... sounds interesting.11:21
upgrdmanwell its just that i asked in the ubuntu forums and only one person responded, and told me to play with the boot orders11:21
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_sethbigfoot, you've never seen the Matrix ASCII clip?11:21
batma8this is the error xine give me, "libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support Unavailable."11:21
shawarmabigfoot: Find any movie you can play regularly with mplayer. Then set -ao aalib. Magic.11:21
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_sethbatma8, did you install libdvdcss2?11:22
batma8i better look huh11:22
batma8ehheeh11:22
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_sethbatma8, usually a good idea. =)11:22
MalsidHello again : )11:22
_sethHowdy!11:22
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batma8oh i dont see libdvdcss2 in my repository11:23
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MalsidMy problem: I'm a noob, just did fresh install of Ubuntu on my laptop but the mouse doesn't work.11:23
_sethGo ahead and apt-get install libdvdcss2 then.11:23
bob2bigfoot: it's not in ubuntu for obvious reasons11:23
bigfootshawarma, bob2, please take a look at the output when i ran the test on the "Default Sink:Output". Please check out http://img245.echo.cx/img245/2281/screenshot3hk.png. Do i need to change the text code? Where's the color?11:23
_sethShould work for ya after that.11:23
olaffhow do i install a .bin file?11:23
johnnybezakhey guys how do I copy paste in an xterm/.?11:23
Malsidselect then middleclick11:24
bob2olaff: it had no instructions at all?11:24
bob2bigfoot: no, that's what it does11:24
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Noobixgotta go11:25
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bigfootoh. so i wonder what's the use of this Ascii movie player. IT's rather useless, isn't it?11:25
Fikrannbigfoot, install sl, open up a terminal, maximize it, type sl and press Enter. This should give you fairly good idea how text mode animations work.11:25
batma8_seth: Package libdvdcss2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.11:25
batma8This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or11:25
batma8is only available from another source11:25
batma8E: Package libdvdcss2 has no installation candidate11:25
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_sethbatma8, did you setup extra reps?11:26
Fikrannbatma8, go check for RestrictedFormats on ubuntu wiki11:26
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MalsidReally easy way to earn karma here: Mouse not working upon install. Apologies for the flooding.11:26
batma8_seth: how do i set up the extra reps11:26
batma8ill go look fikrann11:26
_sethhttp://ubuntuguide.org11:26
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bob2Malsid: if someone wanted to try to help you, they would have to extract a lot of information from you first11:27
bob2Malsid: it's easier if you just offer it to begin with11:27
FikrannMalsid, give more details or you'll be asking your question forever.11:27
bob2Malsid: e.g. url to your X log and your X config, description of what "doesn't work" means (no cursor at all? fixed cursor? jumpy cursor?)11:27
MalsidI see the cursor. But it doesnt move click etc.11:28
FikrannMalsid, touchpad or external mouse?11:28
MalsidEither when I use my touchpad a usb mouse or a ps/211:28
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batma8_seth isnt there a way to do it from synaptic without terminal11:29
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_sethbatma8, wouldn't know to be honest. I love CLI.11:29
batma8:)11:29
batma8ok11:29
MalsidOk that was wierd. Just plugged in the ps/2 mouse again and the cursor gave me control for like 3 seconds then stopped.11:29
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bigfootFikrann, i saw SL in action. Now I understand. Does this mean that regular movie files (avi, mov, etc) are not to be played as an Ascii movie?11:30
FikrannMalsid, check if you have:         Option          "Device"                "/dev/input/mice" in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf11:30
bob2bigfoot: it's not intended for serious use11:30
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bob2it's just a neat hack11:30
bigfootFikrann, by the way, what exactly is the purpose of SL? The description says it's supposed to correct you if you type SL by mistake. I don't get it.11:31
dougskis that the libcaca?11:31
bob2or aalib11:31
topylibigfoot: it's just a joke11:31
_sethDear god, what happened to all the nice GTK theme makers?11:31
dougskah excellent awesone11:31
Fikrannbigfoot, it's silly joke program.11:32
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topylibigfoot: still, i tend to install it on all my systems :)11:32
MalsidFikrann: I do.11:32
Fikrann_seth, nothing, IMHO, since they never existed.11:32
bigfootokay, now that I've "heard the joke,"  i've already uninstalled it.11:32
_sethFikrann, come on now. TIgertCrack was nice and simple.11:33
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bigfoottopyli,  why did you install it on all your systems? ISn't seeing the choo-choo train once enough for you? Perhaps I'm not understanding the joke very well...11:33
_sethSmall, didn't get in the way. I miss those themes.11:33
Fikrann_seth, I never heard of this one. Where did you get it from?11:33
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_sethhttp://art.gnome.org/themes/metacity/3411:34
topylibigfoot: well, really i appreciate useless software :)11:34
RaskallAhh.. got a job today. It feels good to be on my way to the working life again after 18 months of doing nothing but change diapers.11:34
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_sethRaskall, I've got my first due in a month.11:35
bigfoottopyli, 8)11:35
Fikrann_seth, no wonder I didn't hear about it. I abhor metacity.11:35
_sethWhat do you use?11:35
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Raskall_seth: :) I am a bit over qualified for this job, but its a job. its a first line support job. I have 4 years of college and 12 years of working experience.11:35
Fikrann_seth, openbox11:36
UsefulIdiotwtc? I didn't realise there were still webmasters incompetent enough to list a system requirements on the front of their website: http://www.anytimeworld.com/landing.htm gaah!11:36
upgrdmananyone here have expierence with software raid in ubuntu, and willing to help me fix some issues11:36
_sethRaskall, I'm a student right now, paying my way through as a waiter, with no expirence what so ever...11:36
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_sethRaskall, I did get a job offer in the IT department at MVP, a large insurance agency in my area.11:37
UsefulIdiotIf I owned I shop I wouldn't want a sales assistent that said "fuck off" to one in every ten people that walks in the door..11:37
Raskall_seth: :) you should have my job, then. It's, as mentioned, a helpdesk job for a dsl provider.11:37
Raskall_seth: sounds exciting.11:37
MalsidFikrann: So you think the problem probably lies in the Xorg.conf?11:37
_sethRaskall, wouldn't happen to be Verizon, would it?11:37
dougskUsefulIdiot, different strokes ...  but anywaus I agree11:37
topyliUsefulIdiot: that must be the most clueless site i've seen in a while :)11:37
UsefulIdiottopyli: indeed :)11:38
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FikrannMalsid, probably11:38
_sethRaskall, if so, I have to say, you will most likely be getting a call from me a lot bitching about my line being down.11:38
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Raskall_seth: nope.. this is in norway. Tele2.11:39
_sethAh, gotcha.11:39
MalsidIs there a way to re-effectuate the xorg.conf without rebooting the machine?11:39
bob2Malsid: restart X, logout and log back in again11:39
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Dalkuscan I find out what manufacturor and model my motherboard is through linux?11:39
_sethRaskall, I need to be in my third semester to actually take the job at MVP, but I know the guy that runs the IT department. I might see if he can pull some strings.11:39
Malsidbob2: So I have to restart X?11:40
bob2Malsid: to have changes to your X config take effect, yes...11:40
Malsidbrb :)11:40
FikrannMalsid, yes. The fastest way is to press ctrl+alt+backspace.11:40
|Ivanch0|hi, someone uses xchat?11:40
dougskMalsid, ctrl-alt-f1 login, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart11:41
bigfootTo all who take digital pictures: I'm looking for a great _free_  internet service to store my pictures online. I've tried flickr.com but 1: there's a monthly upload limit. 2: They don't keep the image size the same, if the file is a large file. I've heard also of the new ourmedia.org. It will retain the file's size and quality but it's made available for the whole world to see.  So I'd like to ask for your recommendations.... I've been think11:41
bigfooting about imageshack.us... what do you think? anything better?11:41
Raskall_seth: nice to know you have a job waiting when you are through school, isnt it?11:41
Fikrann|Ivanch0|, most of us, I'd say.11:41
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|Ivanch0|and u know how to edit aliases ?11:41
_sethRaskall, it's very nice, especially since the kid is almost here. Sure, I still have a while left in school, but by the time he is 2, I'll be setup with a NICE paying job/11:41
Raskall_seth: I worked in the army's it department a year right after school. was quite cool (and 11 years ago. Dammit, I'm old)11:41
Raskall_seth: :) nice.11:42
Fikrannbigfoot, get your own websever and run a gallery?11:42
_sethRaskall, Norwegian army?11:42
sTbdoes somebody of you have good "repository" for ubuntu?11:42
bigfootFikrann, the keyword is "free"    8)11:42
bob2sTb: er, the 10 000 packages on archive.ubuntu.com?11:42
Raskall_seth: yes. at the department for the national guard.11:43
|Ivanch0|Fikrann, you know? how to edit aliases?11:43
dougskRaskall, me to at least to the second part.  I've had to do much work for clients at figuring out that stupid san francisco-washington dc fort bragg vpn thingamajing11:43
Fikrannbigfoot, you can always use your own connection for that.11:43
_sethRaskall, cool. I was in the military also.11:43
sTbbob2,  its not listing win32 codec and mplayer11:43
Raskall_seth: in norway all males must go to the army for at least 1 year.11:43
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bob2sTb: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats11:44
bigfootFikrann, but i may be selling this computer to someone.... that's why i'd like to store them online somewhere else.11:44
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dougskRaskall, oh oops sorry wrong army :)11:44
Raskall_seth: the only way to get out of it is to be a pacifist or have very bad health. but if you're a pacifist you have to do community work for 18 months.11:44
Raskalldougsk: :)11:44
_sethAaahhhhh.11:44
_sethAlright, got to go feed the habit. Be back in a few.11:45
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RaskallI love guns, so I joined happily. It's quite a rush when you load the machine-rife (AG-3) with a full magazine and press and hold the trigger.11:45
Raskallthat's power. it's not possible to keep the rifle stable for more thatn 3-4 shots at the time.11:45
Fikrannbigfoot, what kind of linux enthusiast are you? Just one computer? };>11:46
bigfootFikrann, yes. i'm a newbie to linux/ubuntu.8)11:46
Raskallunfortunately we were only allowed to shoot sharp once.11:46
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Raskallon automatic that is.11:46
bob2anyway11:46
Raskalland to keep the record straight: I'm not a potential columbine-candidate. :)11:47
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|Ivanch0|ok ;) i discover it :D11:48
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WhiteDoveHi again people11:49
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quarhow can i setup printing?11:49
MidnightDevilhi, how do i change my distro charset?11:49
sTbThanks bob2. does somebody of you have more good "repository" for ubuntu?11:50
|Ivanch0|some one knows how i have 401 Authorization required mensage when i try to apt from backports.ubuntuforums?11:51
Fikrannquar, by using that nifty little thing in the 'system' menu above the window you're looking at right now.11:52
quarbut im in KDE11:52
quari dun have that icon11:52
quarwhats the bin called?11:52
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bob2|Ivanch0|: read their website11:53
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|Ivanch0|bob2,  username and password to enter in their website? :D11:54
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bob2then just don't use it11:54
MidnightDevilhi, how do i change my distro charset?11:54
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|Ivanch0|great solution :D11:55
|Ivanch0|;)11:55
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Fikrann|Ivanch0| Use one of their mirrors.11:57
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|Ivanch0|and how can i know that mirrors?11:57
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WhiteDoveHey guys11:57
MidnightDevilsomeone please??'11:57
WhiteDoveCould someone help me please, I can't seem to get sound in some programs/games i.e vlc and Unreal Tournement 200411:58
Fikrann|Ivanch0|, grep Ubuntu wiki11:59
FikrannWhiteDove, killall esd11:59
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|Ivanch0|ok thnks Fikrann ;)12:00
MidnightDevilhi, how do i change my distro charset?12:00
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fabio_85hello12:01
fabio_85guys, anyway to know which hdd partition I am using, e.g. hda, hdb or so? I mean any Terminal cmd?12:02
sTbdoes somebody of you have more good "repository" for ubuntu?12:02
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Methynutnutfabio_85: mount ?12:03
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Fikrannfabio_85, mount will show it all.12:03
bigfootis it possible to change my userid (the name I use to log onto my Ubuntu system), while keeping all the files and stuff the same?12:04
Fikrannbigfoot, that takes three steps:12:05
thenukeI bet that it can be done, but I dont know if there are any easy and simple way to do it12:05
Fikrann1. Edit /etc/passwd, /etc/shadow and /etc/group12:05
thenukewhat I would try to do that is.. edit /etc/passwd and change the username, then I would chown every file I used to own with that previous name12:06
Fikrann2. rename your home dir to your new id12:06
Fikrann3. re-login12:06
thenukeFikrann: so one does not have to chown anything?12:06
niranFikrann, uh, can;t the users and groups config program do all that for you?12:06
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Fikrannthenuke, no, you can simply change the string attached to numeric uid.12:07
Fikrannniran, no idea.12:07
bigfootniran, i tried, but it won't let you edit the userid.12:07
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Fikrannbigfoot, if you're the only user, don't forget to touch up your /etc/sudoers12:08
niranoh oops12:08
nirani might have deleted and replaced a user instead12:08
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bigfootFikrann, yes, i'm the only user. how do i touch up /etc/sudoers?Just curious: what if there are more users? is touching /etc/sudoers still necessary?12:09
bassMonkeyHas anyone tried a Canon EOS350D with ubuntu? My parents are getting one for my brother and since I've just converted my family to ubuntu, it simply needs to work... =)12:09
thenukebtw, when upgrading from warty to hoary, is it necessary to shutdown X _before_ even starting the upgrading?12:10
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WhiteDoveyou can do a whole distro upgrade :S12:13
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WhiteDovethats so cool12:13
WhiteDovelol12:13
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bigfootFikrann, i can't open shadow via gedit. "Access is Denied"12:14
WhiteDovehave you tried sudo ?12:15
MidnightDevilhi, how do i change my distro charset?12:15
sTbwhere can i get the player "xine" as .deb or ubuntu package?12:16
WhiteDovesudo apt-get xine12:17
aLeSDhi12:17
WhiteDovesudo ap-get install xine*12:17
WhiteDoveapt*12:17
aLeSDhow could I chose what demons start in the default runlevel?12:17
Fikrannbigfoot, are you sure you're trying to open it as root?12:17
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MidnightDevilmy apache keeps printing the wrong characters, how do i fix this?12:17
bigfootFikrann, i'm working through the gui. so gedit doesn't ask for root.12:17
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MidnightDevilsomeone?12:19
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raghuMidnightDevil: while restarting?12:20
alex_extremewho here agrees with me that Windows is rubbish12:20
FikrannMidnightDevil, your question is far too vague to answer.12:20
cyphasealex_extreme, i second the motion12:21
raghuMidnightDevil: try to reinstall ....:) if u have time...:)12:21
MidnightDevilwell12:21
MidnightDevili got some names on a file which uses characters12:22
MidnightDevilcan i give u an example?12:22
raghuyes12:22
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quarmake[2] : *** [install-foomatic]  Error 212:23
quarmake[2] : Leaving directory `/home/quar/hpijs-1.7.1'12:23
quarmake[1] : *** [install-data-am]  Error 212:23
quarmake[1] : Leaving directory `/home/quar/hpijs-1.7.1'12:23
quarmake: *** [install-am]  Error 212:23
quarroot@Gentoon:/home/quar/hpijs-1.7.1 #12:23
quaranyone know why thats happening?12:23
prasyserror 212:23
prasysquar12:23
prasyswhat you are compiling12:23
prasysgo to pastebin.ca , and post the whole make error12:23
prasysstarting from a12:23
quarthe http://hpinkjet.sourceforge.net/install.php12:23
quari was following that12:24
quari did everything it said12:24
MidnightDevil http://devilish.ath.cx:8080/forum/fs/kiko.html12:24
quarbut it didnt work12:24
MidnightDevilits those weird squares!12:24
prasysseriously12:24
prasysgive me the whole output12:24
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prasyspost it at pastebin.ca12:24
prasysi can take a look12:24
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pepsihttp://poopooca.ca/12:25
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nernhey hey hey12:25
pepsiit exists!12:25
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quarprasys, http://pastebin.com/29379012:25
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quarim trying to set up printing12:26
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cadetmarhi@all12:26
prasysquar12:26
prasyslet me take a look12:26
cadetmarsomeone know something about inotify?12:26
prasysouch , my mouse battery is low again12:26
RaskallDammit. I'm on a roll here. Called about a linux-job a friend tipped me about. He almost hired me over the phone.12:27
bet0xany know any about mono-project?12:27
Raskalla good thing I only have two weeks notice on the job I accepted today.12:27
bet0xi need some help with mod_mono12:27
prasyshmm12:27
prasyswhat version of gcc are you using ?12:27
quari dunno12:28
bet0xgcc version 3.3.212:28
cadetmaranyone runs beagle?12:28
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quarroot@Gentoon:/home/quar/hpijs-1.7.1 # gcc --version12:28
quargcc (GCC) 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-8ubuntu2)12:28
bet0xgcc version 3.3.2 20031022 (Red Hat Linux 3.3.2-1)12:28
bet0x=p12:28
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prasysk12:28
dmoyneHello ! ; has any one used skypes with KDE / Ubuntu ?12:28
prasyslet me take a look12:29
prasysdmoyne > I tried it with kubuntu12:29
cadetmaryeah i have skype with kde12:29
prasysquar > do you have libs installed for it ?12:29
cadetmarworks fine12:29
cadetmarfor me12:29
prasysno problem !12:29
dmoyneand with KDE ?12:29
quari installed like 3 packages it told me to on the page12:29
quarill show ya12:29
cadetmaryep12:29
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prasysk12:29
prasysquar > show me , thanks12:29
cadetmarwhat is the prob12:29
MidnightDevilcan someone help me??12:29
MidnightDevilcome on!12:30
quarhttp://hpinkjet.sourceforge.net/install.php12:30
quarprasys, look at the debian section12:30
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quari followed those directions12:30
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dmoyneok then we can talk ; yesterday I connected to a friend site in Swizerland and I could listen to him but no way to speak !12:30
prasyssure12:30
prasysmake error 2 = some errors in library or something wrong with the compiler12:30
dmoyneI have bought a new mike connected to my Soundlaster Live! sound card ; anything special to be done ?12:31
quarcan ya see if you can compile it?12:31
MidnightDevilmy apache keeps printing wrong some characters, why ?12:31
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prasysdid you use syanatic ?12:31
prasyswhat you call it12:31
cadetmarsoundblaster live! 24bit?12:31
cadetmarits a really crappy card :)12:31
quarprasys, use synaptic?12:31
prasysquar12:32
prasysyeah12:32
prasysits better12:32
prasyssometimes using apt-get12:32
dmoynehops this is an old one 5 years old Creative 102412:32
prasysit does not install correctly12:32
quarprasys, i dont think that package is in any ubuntu repos12:32
quari didnt use apt-get either12:32
cadetmaris capturing enabled12:32
quari followed the instuctions on that page12:32
cadetmardoes kmix show the mic input12:32
cadetmar?12:32
}x{|CeRbErUshttp://www.linuxforums.org/forum/topic-44909.html -> could someone tell me why this is12:32
quarI downloaded it and built it12:33
Church_of_Foamy_anyone know of a good fileserving program for networks12:33
dmoyneI uesed Kmix but the icons are quite confusing as you do not know between dark and light what is on !12:33
prasyshmm12:33
prasysmake error 212:33
prasysthats weird12:33
prasystotaly12:33
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prasysit compiled fine for me12:33
prasysi usually install everything related to devel12:33
prasysso , it does not miss anything12:33
Church_of_Foamy_lan networks i mean12:34
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dmoyneon Entry I have a Mic input with an icon on top and another one at the bottome what is to be done12:34
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dmoyne cadetmar, on Entry I have a Mic input with an icon on top and another one at the bottome what is to be done12:36
flipyanyone know if there is a package for moodle 1.5?12:37
Fikrann}x{|CeRbErUs, that's far too little information to suggest anything.12:38
}x{|CeRbErUswhat extra info do u need Fikrann12:38
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Fikrann}x{|CeRbErUs, chipset type, graphics chip type .. and that's only beginning12:39
underdog}x{|CeRbErUs: have you tried debian?12:39
}x{|CeRbErUsi have12:39
bigfootFikrann, thanks for the 3-step instructions! I'll take note of it.12:39
underdog}x{|CeRbErUs: i've had trouble with ubuntu on my toshiba because of my pcmcia card... it was reading intervals that would crash the pc on the installation12:39
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}x{|CeRbErUsdid you solve it underdog?12:39
Fikrann}x{|CeRbErUs, have you tried running expert mode ?12:40
bigfootanybody here using Flickr.com? How do you upload photos? One by one? Is there a faster way?12:40
}x{|CeRbErUsi did12:40
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}x{|CeRbErUsi tried all the boot options12:40
FikrannIntriguing.12:40
dmoynebye and thanks !12:40
underdog}x{|CeRbErUs: i used debian12:40
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underdogFikrann: if it's the PCMCIA card, expert won't cut it, it will install pcmcia-cs and crash the installer12:41
}x{|CeRbErUsDistro's i tried: Mandrake, Ubuntu Warthy, SuSe 9.1 (works), Knoppix12:41
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}x{|CeRbErUsGentoo12:41
underdog}x{|CeRbErUs: really... try debian12:41
Fikrannunderdog, it crashes even earlier12:41
}x{|CeRbErUsok i will underdog12:41
underdogFikrann: how so?12:41
Fikrannunderdog, }x{|CeRbErUs http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/topic-44909.html -> could someone tell me why this is12:42
}x{|CeRbErUserm yes12:42
}x{|CeRbErUswait i'll tell you what i see i'll put gentoo in it12:43
jindDamn it. Have anybody ever heard about a _working_ dual screen setup with a laptop screen and a crt screen with intel extreme graphics (i855GME)?12:43
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jindIt's driving me nuts12:43
raDeonwho called me12:43
}x{|CeRbErUsLoading Gentoo12:43
}x{|CeRbErUsLoading igz.....12:43
}x{|CeRbErUsReady12:44
underdogFikrann: what's the log virtual console on ubuntu?12:44
}x{|CeRbErUsScreen goes blank12:44
diblocrash.12:44
Fikrannjind, I tried it, it fried my crt.12:44
diblo}x{|CeRbErUs:  try "kickstart"12:44
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Fikrannunderdog, no idea, most probably none.12:44
}x{|CeRbErUsok trying...12:44
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underdogno Fikrann, there IS one... I just can't remember wich one is12:45
NiltsiarAnyone managed to get mingetty to work in Hoary?12:45
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diblo}x{|CeRbErUs:  "kick" and "start"12:45
jindFikrann, seriously?12:45
sTbdoes somebody of you have more good "repository" for ubuntu?12:45
Fikrannunderdog, I just checked 1 - 12 .. none show anything12:45
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Fikrannjind, yes, quite spectacularly.12:46
underdogFikrann: oh, you're quite right, they only appear when the installation starts12:46
jindFikrann, you must be the most unlucky person I've heard about today12:47
jindToo bad12:47
Fikrannjind, I'm quite happy without desktop comp12:47
diblo@"@12:47
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diblogentoo -RTFM12:48
_sethHey guys. How do I make an iso of a CD? mkisofs right?12:48
dibloumm12:48
jindI have the dual screen setup working in windows, so it should be working in linux too.. hopefully12:48
_sethmkisofs just spits everything out at me.12:48
diblo_seth:  you might to install a package... windone xp12:49
diblo_seth:  a m$ emulator12:49
jindIdea: Reboot and find out which bios and see it exists a bios update12:50
quarhow can i reinstall cups?12:50
Fikrann_seth, you want to read about -o in man mkisofs. Or use a frontend.12:50
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_sethFikrann, know of a frontend off the top of your head?12:51
_sethapt-cache is my friend.12:51
sTbdoes somebody of you have more good "repository" for ubuntu?12:51
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Fikrann_seth, k3b12:52
FikrannsTb, your question does not make sense.12:52
_sethFikrann, it needs 111MBs? Is there a way to get it without needing KDE?12:52
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_sethFikrann, I see it needs kdebase-bin and all that good stuff I don't want...12:53
Juhaz_seth, no.12:53
rafal3could it make any problem to mix ubuntu and debian repositories?12:53
Juhaz_seth, look at graveman or gnomebaker if you don't want kde12:53
_sethAck, oh well.12:53
_sethJuhaz, I have gnomebaker....12:53
sTbi want more "repository" for my ubuntu system. what are you not understanding?12:54
thenukesTb: http://ubuntuguide.org12:54
_sethNevermind, I'm a dumbass.12:54
_sethI got it.12:55
diblo_seth:  you are12:55
FikrannsTb, I do understand what you say, and it clearly shows that you don't understand what you want.12:55
thenukesTb: To be more specific, http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories12:55
sTbthanks thekoreuk Fikrann12:55
_sethdiblo, easy now. It's 7am, I've been up since this time yesterday, and I'm obviously a little short on sleep. Living on caffiene and nicotine can be fun, but you aren't the most aware individual...12:55
thenukesTb: and regarding to where to get xine, http://ubuntuguide.org/#xine-ui12:56
thenukesTb: bookmark that guide.12:56
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acidwolfi got a couple files that i have full permissions to write read and execute but when i try to move them it wont let me. what am i doing wrong12:58
FikrannsTb, the question you wanted to ask was: "I want to watch dvds on my ubuntu. Where I can find neccesary software?" This'd give you immediate response and much more enjoyable experience.12:58
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Fikrannacidwolf, check permissions on parent folder.12:59
acidwolfFikrann i did01:00
acidwolfand apprently i can do whatever i want with it but when i try to move it it doesnt work01:00
acidwolfi need to make it so that everyone and anyone can view it01:00
acidwolfi did this01:00
Fikrannacidwolf, how about the target folder?01:00
acidwolfchmod 777 foo01:00
acidwolfyes the target folder is on a USB flash drive01:01
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sTbFikrann, ill try to improve my questions.01:02
FikrannsTb, I'm glad to hear that!01:02
k4rp0rhow can i get sounds working on totem media player?01:03
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acidwolfk401:03
acidwolfk4rp0r install totem-xine01:03
k4rp0rok01:03
acidwolfand then also install the gstreamer plugins01:04
acidwolfand if sound still doesnt work then make sure that you have the correct sound daemon running01:04
acidwolfand that it isnt being used by something else01:04
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refuze2loozewhenever i start up my computer, my desktop is blank. i have to killall nautilus and then it reloads nautilus and my desktop is showing. how can i fix this?01:06
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trig_hey i have an rpm audio driver for my sound card how can i install it on ubuntu01:08
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Fikrannrefuze2looze, try running 'failsafe gnome' next time you log in.01:09
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refuze2loozetrig_: you can convert it to a debian package using alien01:09
refuze2loozeFikrann: i'll try01:09
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Juhazit probably won't work, though, different kernel and all that01:09
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Fikranntrig_, what soundcard is that? And no, converting rpms with drivers won't work.01:10
refuze2loozeoh an audio driver01:10
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refuze2loozethere's a chance it may work, isn't there?01:11
trig_i tried but it gives me an error01:11
Fikrannrefuze2looze, very slim01:11
Juhazsure. somewhere around 0.001%01:11
refuze2loozehehe01:11
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trig_its an asus intergated sound card: Asus A8n SLI DEL 64 bit01:12
refuze2loozetrig_: try to find the debian package for it, or .tar.gz, or source01:12
trig_i have the source gz01:12
refuze2loozethen you can compile it from source01:13
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refuze2loozeas long as there isn't a million dependency errors, and there probably won't be since it's an audio driver, it shouldn't be too hard01:13
refuze2loozeyou just need to have GCC and all that stuff isntalled01:13
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trig_ok i'll try i was just hoping i wouldn't have to compile it :(01:14
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WhiteDovehiya people, just a quick one, whats the name of the kde sound daemon?01:15
Fikrannartsd01:16
WhiteDovethank you01:16
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maxy_noobhi guys01:20
trig_im trying to compile this driver and it gives me:01:20
trig_Audio/alsa-driver-1.0.4 # ./configure01:20
trig_checking for gcc... no01:20
trig_checking for cc... no01:20
trig_checking for cc... no01:20
trig_checking for cl... no01:20
trig_configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH01:20
maxy_noobis there a list of commands I can find somewhere?01:20
trig_See `config.log' for more details.01:20
Fikranntrig_, install gcc-3.301:21
trig_ok thx01:21
Co35_Pelumat_BibIll try install ubuntu 5.04 then error in "nic-firmware-2.6.xxxxxx" why ?01:21
maxy_noobsudo commands01:21
FikrannCo35_Pelumat_Bib, please rephrase?01:22
maxy_noobanyone?01:22
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tfarhi01:22
Co35_Pelumat_Bibwhen request nic-firmware ..... then computer hang01:23
Fikrannmaxy_noob, you're asking wrong question01:23
maxy_noobsorry01:23
tfaris there anywhere a howto for changing the desktop from gnome to kde?01:23
maxy_noobwhat's the right question?01:23
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Fikrannmaxy_noob, try asking "I need to get foo to work. What should I do?"01:24
maxy_noob"foo"?01:24
Methynutnutor bar01:24
alerimtfar: try looking for kubuntu01:24
Methynutnutmaxy_noob: "foo" and "bar" and "foobar" are standard random words people use to mean "insert something here"01:24
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Fikrannreplace 'foo' with your problem description.01:24
maxy_nooboh01:25
maxy_noobthanks01:25
MethynutnutI think they first cropped up in some ANSI standard01:25
maxy_noobI need to get a list of standard sudo commands. Where can I find such a document?01:25
maxy_noobis that better?01:25
maxy_noob(I'm not sure what this changes, but whatever.01:26
tfaralerim, i know kubuntu, baut i've ubuntu installed at the moment and i thought there is a way to change the desktop from gnome to kde01:26
Fikrannmaxy_noob, a bit. The list of things you can run via sudo is quite infinite.01:26
Amaranthtrig_: You really want built-essential, not just gcc01:27
maxy_noobwhat about standard commands.01:27
maxy_noobthere must be a list somewhere.01:27
Amaranthmaxy_noob: any command01:27
MethynutnutIf anyone's interested, the RFC standard on foo, bar, baz, etc.: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc3092.html01:27
Amaranthmaxy_noob: you can use sudo with any command you want01:27
Co35_Pelumat_Bibwhen install ubuntu "computer hang when request nic-firmware.2.6.10" ?01:27
maxy_noobwhat about "delete"01:27
maxy_noobsudo delete file?01:27
Amaranthmaxy_noob: rm01:27
maxy_noobrm?01:28
maxy_noobI need to delete a couple of files01:28
refuze2loozemaxy_noob: are you a former windows user?01:29
maxy_noobrefuze2looze, how can you tell.01:29
maxy_noob;)01:29
refuze2loozemaxy_noob: i came accross this website before, maybe it'll help you http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/unix_for_dos_users.html01:29
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maxy_noobthanks refuze2looze01:30
zayn__hi, someone can tell me about yahoo messenger installer in ubuntu ?01:30
refuze2loozenp01:30
refuze2loozezayn__: gaim supports yahoo messenger protocol01:31
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Co35_Pelumat_BibZayn__: use GAIM-VV01:31
zayn__no gaim, i want install yahoo messenger.01:31
zayn__i use gaim, that really good01:32
refuze2loozeuhh.. is there yahoo messenger for linux?01:32
ianhello ppl.. i have a problem...with my cd writer...it can read the content of the cd..but when i tried to cd write picture..it just freeze..01:32
zayn__but i want try yahoo messenger01:32
pointwoodwhy do you want that?01:33
refuze2loozeoh there is, it's on the yahoo website01:33
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refuze2loozehow about you go to yahoo.com and read the instructions..01:33
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zayn__yup. there are yahoo messenger for debian, but i can't install in ubuntu01:33
refuze2loozewhy not?01:33
Co35_Pelumat_Bibused RH9.debian in yahoo messenger site01:33
refuze2loozewhat's the error?01:33
zayn__on *01:33
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zayn__c035 : are u indonesian ?01:34
bigfootI'd like to get Java working in Firefox. how do i go about doing that? Is ubuntuguide.org the way to do it, or is there a better way?01:34
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refuze2loozezayn__ what error do you get when trying to install the debian package?01:34
zayn__uhm ...01:34
zayn__i'm forget ....01:34
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zayn__next time i'll note :d01:35
refuze2loozewhy don't you try it and then tell us what's the problem. i doubt anybody here has tried installing it but if you're having a problem with it and you show us the error perhaps we can help you01:35
ianhello can somebody help me with my cd writer..01:35
ianhello ppl.. i have a problem...with my cd writer...it can read the content of the cd..but when i tried to cd write picture..it just freeze..01:35
zayn__refuze : can you intall that ? (yahoo messenger?)01:35
refuze2loozebigfoot: i installled it how the wiki suggested to do it. seems like a simple and solid way01:35
refuze2loozezayn__: i haven't tried, i dont use yahoo messenger01:36
bigfootrefuze2looze, ok. just doublechecking.01:36
zayn__:D01:36
zayn__thanks01:36
bigfootthanks.01:36
zayn__this is my friend nick ..01:36
bigfootrefuze2looze, is "sun-j2re1.5" the latest version?01:36
zayn__not mine :D01:36
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refuze2loozeian: have you tried using a different burning application?01:36
ianrefuze2looze: yes i have..gnomebaker and the default one..01:37
refuze2loozebigfoot: that's the one i have installed01:37
refuze2loozedunno if it's the very latest though01:37
ianrefuze2looze: it there any logs for this..01:37
bigfootbut is it the latest? Isn't getting the latest almost always the best thing to do?01:37
refuze2loozeian: it freezes in the middle of burning?01:38
bigfootby the way, it's giving me a warning: "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!01:38
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bigfoot  sun-j2re1.5"  is this okay?Do we need the authentication?01:38
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refuze2loozebigfoot: actually no. getting the tested and known-to-work-well version is usually the best ;)01:38
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refuze2loozeit's fine01:38
bigfootso this version is the tested one?01:38
ianrefuze2looze: yes.. but my cd writer was not blinking with green..01:39
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refuze2loozeit's the one the wiki recommends to install01:39
zkruwhow can i se wich pci port my gfx card uses ? when i shall fill in the xorg.conf01:39
ianrefuze2looze: yes.. but my cd writer was not blinking with green.. no activity01:39
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refuze2loozeian: i dunno.. i would suggest trying a different burning program. try running the program from the terminal and seeing if any error messages appear in the terminal01:39
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bigfooti know, the wiki is just a wiki. in other words, i am not sure whether it's reliable.01:40
bigfoothow can we tell whether that wiki is a reliable guide?01:40
trig_i tried installing gcc and it still gives me that error01:40
bigfootI mean, it looks reliable... but how can we tell?01:40
refuze2loozetrig_: did you install GCC using apt-get / synaptic?01:40
trig_yeah01:40
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trig_gcc .3.301:40
refuze2loozebigfoot: well, most everybody has installed it the way described in method 1 and it seems to work well for everyone, so give it a try i guess.01:40
refuze2loozetrig_: and it tells you that it doesn't find GCC compiler?01:41
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_4strO_mIRC v6.14 Khaled Mardam-Bey01:42
trig_th> trig_: You really want built-essential01:42
refuze2loozetrig_: install build_essential01:42
m-o-they why dont i have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf after a new install of warty?01:42
refuze2loozeyeah01:42
refuze2loozethat01:42
trig_root@ubuntu:/home/trig/Desktop/LinuxDrivers/Audio/alsa-driver-1.0.4 # ./configure01:42
trig_checking for gcc... no01:42
trig_checking for cc... no01:42
trig_checking for cc... no01:42
trig_checking for cl... no01:42
trig_configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH01:42
trig_See `config.log' for more details.01:42
refuze2loozetrig_: you installed build-essential? check if gcc is installed01:43
m-o-tdoes ubuntu keep it somewhere else?01:43
lokyou need gcc and probably g++01:43
bigfoot sun-j2re1.5 is a 88 MB download! Wow, that's huge! Aren't plugins for browsers a lot smaller than that? Like only  1-5 MB? Why is  sun-j2re1.5 so big a file?01:43
ianrefuze2looze: i found something in google..  "CD burning not tested. If freeze pb you sould use acpi=off." where will i set this?01:43
trig_i cant find it in synaptic01:43
refuze2loozebigfoot: it's a bit different when you're talking about a programming language interpreter ;)01:43
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trig_build-essential01:43
George^Dekahi all01:43
bigfootok. i thought i may be downloading stuff that i don't really need. I really need the plug-in. I don't need any stuff for programmers....01:44
bigfoothi George^Deka .01:44
refuze2loozetrig_: it's there...01:44
trig_weird i found it now01:44
trig_must have mispelt it01:45
trig_:)01:45
bigfootcorrection: Not "I really need the plugin", but "I want the plugin only."01:45
refuze2loozebigfoot: the j2sdk is the one for programmers (to compile)01:45
bigfootrefuze2looze, so that means that the  sun-j2re1.5 is the slimmest package one can get, if one only wants to make their browser have Java capabilities, right?01:46
refuze2loozei guess..01:46
trig_ok that worked but now its asking for the kernel:01:47
trig_checking for kernel version... The file /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h d oes not exist.01:47
trig_Please, install the package with full kernel sources for your distribution01:47
trig_or use --with-kernel=dir option to specify another directory with kernel01:47
trig_sources (default is /usr/src/linux).01:47
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refuze2loozetrig_: you have to install the kernel source code from synaptci01:48
dcravenbigfoot: The JRE is needed to run Java programs, like azeurus or whatever.01:48
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trig_ok01:48
ke-vinhow do i know where C header files that match your running01:49
ke-vinkernel?01:49
bigfootdcraven, hmmmm. i downloaded a Java program before. it was what was needed for me to play a .jar game on my computer. I wonder if this current  sun-j2re1.5 download is redundant...01:49
ianrefuze2looze: i found something in google..  "CD burning not tested. If freeze pb you sould use acpi=off." where will i set this?01:49
novaflaregot a question about ubuntu breeze01:49
dcravenbigfoot: Type "which java"01:49
novaflarelike is it possible to upgrade horar to breeze ?01:49
bigfootdcraven,  /usr/bin/java01:49
trig_i should use the latest right?01:50
refuze2loozetrig_: it's under linux-source01:50
dcravenbigfoot: You already have a JRE then.01:50
refuze2loozeno, the one with the ubuntu logo next to it01:50
bigfootdcraven, then how come Firefox doesn't load the java file?01:50
m-o-tdoes any1 know why im missing xorg.conf?01:51
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trig_ok found it01:51
bigfootI have JRE, but do i need anything else to get the browser to work with Java files? dcraven ?01:51
quarhow can i reconfigure grub?01:51
dcravenbigfoot: The plugin (if the jre you have comes with one) is in the wrong place. Let me see if I can find where mine is.01:51
novaflareyour looking in the righ directory m-o-t (/etc/X11)01:51
quarCause ii added windows to the list like it said but it can't boot it still01:51
refuze2loozeian: i'm not sure.. but i'm also not sure it's a good idea to turn it off01:52
bigfootin windows OS, F2 key is the shortcut to "rename" a file. What is it in ubuntu?01:52
bigfoot(renaming in gui)01:52
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trig_it would be kool if asus would compile drivers for all the diferent distros01:52
m-o-t does ubuntu keep it somewhere else?01:52
resiakbigfoot: Erm, exactly the same?01:53
lmsbigfoot, F2 :-)01:53
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bigfootdcraven, is the plugin called appletviewer?01:53
trig_after all the money i spent :P01:53
bigfootcoz if it is, then i have it. (i did apropos java to find out.01:53
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refuze2loozetrig_: yeah, i hate it when the have an rpm pacakge but no deb package01:54
bigfoot"top" says that nautilus is running, but i don't see it on my desktop any where. What's going on?01:54
dcravenbigfoot: I think it might be called libjavaplugin_oji.so.. But I'm not sure yet.01:54
Amaranthbigfoot: nautilus is your desktop01:55
refuze2loozebigfoot: nautillus runs to show your desktop. much like "explorer.exe" in windows01:55
Amaranthrefuze2looze: no, we have gnome-panel separate :)01:55
refuze2loozeAmaranth: well, the desktop =p01:56
refuze2loozenot the panel01:56
novaflarehmm01:56
bigfootoh, i thought nautilus was the file browser. anyway, i killed it in "top" and a "file browser" popped up. I guess i asked about Nautilus, because Top was showing it to be taking about a big percentage of my CPU. Now that i killed it, my computer is doing better....01:56
refuze2loozebigfoot: same thing that happens if you kill explorer.exe in windows01:56
refuze2loozebigfoot: explorer.exe is also the file browser01:56
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johntramphi is there somewhere else where ubuntu get's it's xorg.conf file from apart for /etc/X1101:57
quaris there an app or gui to configure grub?01:57
Amaranthbigfoot: It is a file browser. Your desktop is just a nautilus window without a window border.01:57
bigfootrefuze2looze, but now that i killed nautilus, my comp's processer usage dropped down from 100 to 15. i don't get it.01:57
dcravenjohntramp: No.01:57
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ianhello ppl.. i have a problem...with my cd writer...it can read the content of the cd..but when i tried to cd write picture..it just freeze.. is there any logs for this?01:58
refuze2loozebigfoot: i dunno why it was hogging the resources...01:58
refuze2loozenever happened to me01:58
johntrampdcraven, any idea why I dont have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file then?01:58
bigfootAmaranth, but if i only have the desktop open (and no other Nautilus windows) it doesn't show up in top.01:58
johntrampdcraven, xorg works fine01:58
refuze2loozejohntramp: shouldn't, but try 'locate xorg.conf'01:58
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Amaranthbigfoot: There are more things running then top shows. Try ps -e01:58
refuze2loozeian: i told you, try running the cd burning program from the terminal and see if any error messages show up in the terminal01:59
dcravenjohntramp: Maybe XF86Config? Check /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see what config file it's using.01:59
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Amaranthbigfoot: or ps -ex is you want to be overwheled with data ;)01:59
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trig_checking for kernel version... The file /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h does not exist.02:00
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bigfootAmaranth, but isn't it the same for you too?... that if you don't have any other Nautilus windows open, aside from desktop, it shouldn't show up in top or ps -e /ps -ex.02:00
trig_looked in that path and the closest thing is vermagic.h02:01
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Amaranthbigfoot: no, it's showing as running for me. run 'ps -e | grep nautilus' to see02:01
refuze2loozetrig_: try installing linux-kernel-headers (btw compiling stuff into your kernel is not recommended for beginners;)02:02
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bigfootAmaranth, i see.02:02
ianrefuze2looze: ok...ill try that..02:02
tombshi ppl02:03
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trig_linux kernel headers is already installed02:03
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littlewormcan i install ubuuntu on a pocketpc?02:03
Amarantherr02:03
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Amaranththere isn't an ARM version, so no02:04
novaflarebb after upgradeing to breezy (i hope)02:04
Guerinwhy you'd want a gnome-based distro on a pockletpc is beyond me02:05
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johntramplol, it is using xfree not xorg02:05
Guerinlittleworm: debian has an arm port; give that a go.02:05
littlewormthanks02:05
zombicsi have just install ubuntu. my sound works fine in the desktop enviorment but i cant play sound on xmms or kaffeine.02:05
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thekoreukzombics, try going into the xmms preferences and selecting esd as your output02:06
refuze2loozezombics: try "killall esd" and then use ALSA02:06
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refuze2loozewell, try what thekoreuk said first02:07
dcravenbigfoot left?02:07
Fikranndcraven, yes02:07
dcravenHmm.. I guess I'll stop with his problem then.02:07
refuze2loozelol02:07
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zombicsrefuze2looze, thx that did it :)02:08
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refuze2loozezombics: well you should try what thekoreuk said first, using esound02:09
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SiRrUsgood morning everyone02:09
refuze2loozezombics: but if you permenantly want to disable esd go to system > preferences > sounds and disable sound server startup02:10
novaflarewell this is plesently easy so far02:10
BanditSiRrUs hello02:10
van_hi, how to let non-root users use /mnt/win folder?02:10
novaflareupgradeing distro to breezy (2 reason why not and 2 newer glrx drivers02:10
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Amaranthnovaflare: You're nuts.02:11
Myrttiyou're upgrading to breezy02:11
Myrttihave you read the topic02:11
novaflareheh02:11
Myrttigood luck02:11
Amaranthnovaflare: You will get _zero_ help here.02:11
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novaflarewell ive got isues with my install any how02:11
novaflareso i hose it i hose it and reinstall02:12
novaflarewas planing on doing that any how02:12
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Fikrannnovaflare, be aware that apt will most probably remove your X server due to unsatisfied dependencies.02:12
Raskallwhy don't I get my ubuntu cd's? several people I know, that ordered their cd's after me, have gotten their.02:12
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Amaranthnovaflare: Just letting you know. This is our way of trying to keep people off breezy.02:12
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DarkraD-hello02:13
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refuze2loozenovaflare: you're gonna break your installation02:13
novaflarewell done hit enter so little late lol02:13
AmaranthPeople who are willing to install breezy and know they aren't getting any help from #ubuntu are the ones we want using breezy.02:13
littlewormis there an ie based browser to ubuntu?02:13
AmaranthSince they're the ones that know how to file bugs and fix things on their own.02:13
DarkraD-everytime i start ubuntu i need to do "sudo ifconfig wlan0 x.x.x.x" and "route add default gw x.x.x.x" before using internet.. is there a way to automize that?02:14
DarkraD-at every boot?02:14
novaflarehey im not afraid of breaking a os i he process of learning it02:14
Amaranthlittleworm: No, IE is windows only.02:14
Rodin ubuntu i cant resize my ntfs partition with help of gparted nor qtparted... Now I want to resize it in Windows, but I just can't find a free tool to do so? Most demo programs dont allow you to apply :(  How to resize the ntfs partition in windows now?02:14
Amaranthlittleworm: And junk.02:14
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FikrannAmaranth, even those that don't need help from this chan usually get bored by fighting with breezy02:14
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AmaranthFikrann: Not me. ;)02:14
GentoonOkay im trying to add my windows xp (on fat32 part) i added the line in the /boot/grub/menu.lst  but when i select it in grub it won't boot it??02:14
littlewormi gotta access to a website which allows only ie :(02:15
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novaflarebesides that i need to find out if the 8.12 ati drivers fix a isue i have02:15
FikrannDarkraD-, yes. Fill in your /etc/network/interfaces02:15
refuze2loozelittleworm: you can run IE using wine or codeweavers if you want02:15
Gentoonis it cause of the filesystem?02:15
littlewormgood point02:15
novaflareso even if every thing else does break and i dont have a gui but cedega launches my game i can find that out02:15
refuze2loozelittleworm: those websites are programmed by idiots02:15
littlewormi know that :)02:15
thoreauputiclittleworm: write a letter to the webmaster explaining that this is the 21st century...02:15
refuze2loozeRod: maybe you should ask in02:16
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refuze2loozeRod: maybe you should ask in #windows or something, we don't give support for windows here, only ubuntu =)02:16
Rodohhh right refuze2looze lol02:16
Rodthanks ;)02:16
FikrannAmaranth, didn't you found annoying how dangling reference to libglu1 made apt willing to remove 90% of your system?02:16
Amaranthlittleworm: You can make firefox pretend to be IE with an extension.02:16
littlewormwhat?02:17
AmaranthFikrann: Never had that problem. No one is dumb enough to dist-upgrade on a development version. ;)02:17
novaflareresizeing of ntfs is damn risky rod no matter what tool you use02:17
novaflaremy advice dont do it02:17
novaflarenot unless you absolutly have to02:17
Amaranthnovaflare: That's not true. I've done it many times with partition magic.02:17
Rodi dont care i just need a bigger reiserfs partition in favor of ntfs02:17
refuze2loozenovaflare: be prepeared to back up your stuff when you have to reisntall ubuntu ;)02:17
AmaranthYou just have to defrag the partition first.02:17
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George^Dekanovaflare: same, no probs with part magic02:18
FikrannAmaranth, well, I upgraded to breezy .. then got annoyed and backtracked.02:18
MethynutnutI did that today. Admittedly I converted it to FAT32 first. No backups either. In restrospect, I'm asking for it aren't I.02:18
novaflareso have i but ive also had part magic fry them just as many02:18
AmaranthMethynutnut: yes, yes you are02:18
Methynutnutah well, it does me some good to clear out all my crud from time to time02:18
novaflareno biggy refuze2looze i dont got any thing that needs backed up02:18
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littlewormAmaranth: what extension?02:18
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novaflarei royaly screwed up my windows install02:18
Amaranthlifeless: user agent switcher02:18
Methynutnutnovaflare: Heh I did that when I tried to install freebsd02:19
novaflaregot a few screw ups in ubuntu etc02:19
novaflareso basically im at a nothing to loose alot to gain deal with breezy02:19
novaflarewell my screw ups in windows are all from tweaking windows02:19
novaflarei had my self down to 20 running procs counting mirc moz and ie lol02:20
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MethynutnutI use windows 2k, which I think is the most reliable, but it just sucks soo much ram it isn't funny02:20
Rodheh i know what im gonna do02:20
novaflareso um heh i supper tweaked but had a tweak to many02:20
lifelessAmaranth: ?02:20
littlewormAmaranth: what's the name of this extension?02:20
Rodi going to re-install windows and during install i select a smaller partition size and then i recover grub :(02:20
Amaranthlittleworm: user agent switcher02:20
Amaranthlifeless: sorry, meant to tell littleworm02:21
littlewormthanks02:21
refuze2loozeyou should isntall windows before linux02:22
refuze2loozerod02:22
ianrefuze2looze: ** Message: MessageDialog message [The mount point (e.g. /mnt/cdrom) for the writing device could not be obtained. Please check that the writing device has an entry in /etc/fstab and then go to preferences and rescan for devices.] 02:22
ian does this means the system did not detect my cdwriter?02:22
novaflareyup on any dual boot system windows first then your secound os02:22
refuze2loozeian: didn't you say it could read it though?02:22
Rodwell i cant reinstall linux because i cant format the reiserfs partitions02:22
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ianrefuze2looze: yes it can read the files..my cd..that is not blank.02:23
AMDXPmy digital camera used to automount before i installed xfce4 now it wont anyone have that problem02:23
Rod1 got 1 80gb ntfs disc, and a 120gb disc with 1 20gb partition mounted as /home and one 100gb partition on that disc mounted as /media02:24
ianrefuze2looze: when i went to the preferences i see my cdwriter has bin detected.. whats wrong?02:24
Rodnow that /media partition needs to get bigger02:24
Rodbut both /home and /media are full02:24
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Rodwhile ntfs partition is near empty02:24
refuze2loozeian: i'll ask it this way: when you insert a cdrom into the drive does it mount?02:24
novaflarejust one question on breezy i know yo mentioned somethign about lib dependincies if this breaks is there a way to flat out install breezzy from cd?02:24
novaflarecause if possible i do want to try it02:25
ianrefuze2looze: yes it is mounted..02:25
refuze2loozerod: what about /02:25
novaflarehell ill split my hd again and install horay and breezy on tripple boot lol02:25
chaitanyahi all02:25
chaitanyaplease help02:25
Rodrefuze2looze,  / = /home, my mistake02:25
chaitanyamy soundcard is not getting detected02:25
AMDXPchaitanya: that is a common problem02:25
chaitanyacan someone please suggest how to get it detected?02:25
refuze2loozeian: then you're not choosing the right device to burn with. what program are you using?02:26
AMDXPchaitanya: have you been to the ubuntu forums?02:26
chaitanyawhat is the command with which i make it detect my soundcard AMDXP02:26
chaitanyaplease help?02:26
ianbut it is mounted in /cdrom not /mnt/cdrom02:26
ianrefuze2looze: but it is mounted in /cdrom not /mnt/cdrom02:27
AMDXPchaitanya: there isnt one simple command02:27
ianrefuze2looze: im using gnomebaker..02:27
refuze2loozeian: it doesn't really make a difference where it is mounted to. you can change it to /mnt/cdrom in fstab if you want02:28
ianrefuze2looze: yes..02:28
PepsI am trying to get my laptop connect to the internet via my desktop. They both run kubuntu but I had no success. Can someone help me?02:28
ianrefuze2looze: what do you think?02:28
PepsMy desktop is connected via a modem02:29
refuze2loozeian: give it a try i guess.. just edit /etc/fstab02:29
thoreauputicchaitanya: are you sure it isn't detected? What does the output of ` lspci | grep audio ` say?02:29
refuze2loozeian: and sudo mkdir /mnt/cdrom02:29
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refuze2loozeian: or you can try creating a link: sudo ln -s /cdrom /mnt/cdrom02:29
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ianrefuze2looze: is there any option for mounting cdrom? :)02:30
bobphttp://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup02:30
refuze2loozeian: man mount02:31
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AMDXPthoreauputic: when i do that it doesnt show anything02:31
thoreauputicPeps:  install firestarter and tick the box for NAT ( internet sharing)02:31
ChoubakaHm.02:31
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PepsI tried firestarter, did not work for me. I am using guarddog02:32
ChoubakaTrying to compile a CVS program on ubuntu, I get that the program requires libavcodec and libavformat. However...02:32
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ChoubakaThere are only -dev files for those packages available.02:32
thoreauputicAMDXP: um... it should show your audio card - did you type the whole command including the | grep audio ?02:32
bobphow's gaurddog work for you?02:32
ChoubakaWhy is this?02:32
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Pepsbetter but not perfect as well02:32
dcravenChoubaka: Those are what you need more than likely.02:32
chaitanya0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)02:33
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Pepsbut should IP masquarading work with the firewall down?02:33
MalsidHow do I get Ubuntu to detect an external drive (enclosure).02:33
thoreauputicPeps: the companion program for guarddog is "guidedog" which does the nat for you02:33
Malsid?02:33
chaitanyathat is ouput of the command you said02:33
Choubakadcraven: but after I install them, It still fails to configure.02:33
Pepswhere do I get guidedog?02:33
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dcravenChoubaka: Then you need more stuff too.02:33
avinoam21How's it going people?02:33
poningruhow do you temperorily turn off cpu powernow temporarily?02:34
AMDXPthoreauputic: yes i cut and pasted what you typed02:34
Choubakadcraven: No, it complains about libavcodec and libavformat.02:34
thoreauputicChoubaka: OK so the system sees it - have you tried running alasamixer in a terminal and checking for muted channels ?02:34
MalsidIn XP it's litterally plug and play, does Ubuntu have something similar?02:34
poningrumalsid: you have to mount it02:34
avinoam21I installed ubuntu, i'm loving it02:34
Pepsdownloading guidedog ...02:34
thoreauputicoopss -sorry that was for chaitanya02:34
refuze2loozechaitanya: same exact sound card as mine02:34
chasehay, i want to put another path in the global PATH variable, what file do i have to edit?02:34
thoreauputicchaitanya: see above02:34
FikrannMalsid, comparing to linux, XP is more plug-and-pray.02:34
van_/dev/hda1       /mnt/win       ntfs    user, noauto     0        0     - Why fstab says that it is bad? :/02:35
Malsidponingru: Sorry, I'm a noob, how do you go about it?02:35
avinoam21refuse, what is the problem?02:35
avinoam21van, you need to set it to read only02:35
chaitanyathoreauputic, the output of the command lspci| grep is 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)02:35
van_thnx02:35
poningrumalsid: look through the wiki to find something on 'mounting external drive'02:35
Fikrannvan_, no spaces between options are allowed02:35
MalsidFikrann: I'm peripheral mad, and I've never had a peripheral I couldn't connect so I wouldn't critisize myself.02:35
thoreauputicchaitanya: yes, thanks - have you checked alsamixer and unmuted all channels ?02:35
echobucketthis is fstab, not english grammar ;)02:36
refuze2loozeavinoam21: are you talking to me? i have no problem02:36
van_:)02:36
poningruhold on malsid I will help with the search02:36
dcravenchase: I do it in my ~/.bashrc.02:36
van_hm...ok now it mounts, but only root can access it :/02:36
thoreauputicchaitanya: press "M" to mute and unmute02:36
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Pepskde02:36
thoreauputicchaitanya: and use the arrow keys to navigate02:36
Methynutnutvan_: you need the user option02:36
poningruwait I forgot to ask what kind of drive is it?02:36
poningrumalsid?02:37
avinoam21there is good documentation about setting up sound02:37
van_it's there, ro,user,noauto02:37
FikrannMalsid, I was reffering to the fact that usb device plugged to port A is completely different, driver wise, from the same device plugged to port B in XP.02:37
Pepsthoreauputic: Thanks for the tip02:37
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chasedcraven, cool thanks02:37
chaitanyaalsamixer gives the output alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device02:37
Malsidponingru: Thanks.02:37
avinoam21van lemme give you a url02:37
poningrudude what kind of drive is it?02:37
Fikrannvan_, you need to remove space between options.02:37
van_removed02:37
poningrumalsid?02:37
chaitanyaany clues thoreauputic?02:37
avinoam21www.ubuntuguide.org02:38
chaitanyathe ouput of alsamixer is alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device02:38
Fikrannvan_, ah, I didn't notce your reply02:38
MalsidYeah?02:38
thoreauputicchaitanya: have you run alsamixer as I told you above?02:38
avinoam21just copy and paste what it says, should work02:38
van_thnx02:38
chaitanyaya i type alsamixer at the prompt02:38
chaitanyathoreauputic,02:38
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thoreauputicchaitanya: ah, I see - please use my nick if you want me to see your responses02:38
Guerinhey ho02:38
barbashi everybody02:38
refuze2loozechaitanya: what happens when you try to play a sound?02:39
chaitanyaok thoreauputic02:39
Guerinwhat's the openssh server package called in ubuntu02:39
chasedcraven, whats the format again? export PATH=PATH:/new/dir02:39
Guerinopenssh-server?02:39
webmindhmm02:39
FikrannGuerin, yes02:39
barbasjust a quick question.02:39
MalsidFikrann: I'm not wishing to go into the finer points of It and I'm not defending XP as an OS but the plug and play capabilities I've seen for peripherals is pretty damn cool.02:39
chaitanyaxmms says : your sound card is not configured properly02:39
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chaitanyarefuse202:40
thoreauputicchaitanya: evidently02:40
webmindafter installing ubuntu and restarting it.. it gives a screwed up screen after starting X02:40
webmindand the keyboard no longer works02:40
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dcravenchase: export PATH=$PATH:/whatever/path:whatever/other/path... Note the $. Very important.02:40
chaitanyaso what do i do thoreauputic02:40
webmindit's a amd64 system with a radeon card02:40
linuksoMalsid: it isn't XP, it is the amounts of drivers....02:40
webmindmouse seems to respond02:40
chaitanyai have a dell Latitude c64002:40
refuze2loozenovaflare: if the power goes out it is the only way to save you now =P02:40
novaflarelol02:40
Fikrannhehe02:41
thoreauputicchaitanya: I'm afraid I can't help much: my knowledge is limited - usually the problem is muted channels in alsamixer, but you can't even open it so...02:41
novaflareso i could abort by just powering off?02:41
Pepsanyone is using guarddog and gnutella? I was not able to convince it to open the gnutella port. I went to shilds up and it says port 6346 is closed?02:41
AMDXPchaitanya: if you get yours working i may get mine working check the forums02:41
chasedcraven, agh grate thanks02:41
avinoam21thoreau, how do you know that he is using alsa?02:41
refuze2loozenovaflare: has it already begun upgrading?02:41
PepsAnd gnutella says  am firewalled02:41
novaflarethink so yeh02:41
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novaflaresetting up etc02:41
refuze2loozeoh if it's setting up then it's too late02:41
thoreauputicavinoam21: erm - because 2.6 kernels use alsa by default02:42
novaflareheh02:42
refuze2loozebut hey, you said you got nothin to loose right02:42
novaflareyep02:42
novaflarei got like 800 megs of stuff02:42
refuze2loozelol02:42
refuze2loozefits on 1 cd02:42
thoreauputicavinoam21: and ubuntu uses alsa (with esd and oss emulation)02:42
avinoam21thoreauputic i set mine up to use esd02:42
chaitanyait isnt working AMDXP02:42
novaflarethat takes like a hour to replace if it goes realy bad and hoses my winxp install02:42
thoreauputicavinoam21: umm - esd still talks to alsa02:42
Malsidwebmind: Have you tried adding "NoAccel" to your Options in xorg.conf?02:42
chaitanyai am trying to use the forums to see if anything useful can be found there02:42
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thoreauputicavinoam21: esd is a sound daemon02:43
novaflareif the xp install stays bootable its just a matter of tfering that little bit over to other comp and back latter02:43
avinoam21i see02:43
avinoam21chaitaya what is the problem?02:43
thoreauputicavinoam21: you can use arts, or jackd, etc ( you still are using the alsa architecture)02:43
webmindMalsid, not yet02:43
avinoam21thoreauputic i could have sworn that i was still conecting to esd using oss02:44
novaflareif i do go up in smoke i prob will have a couple questions like how to install the fglrx drivers during reinstall of ubuntu02:44
avinoam21but maybe i was wrong02:44
Malsidwebmind: It willl tell you if the problem is due to your accelleration, try it.02:44
webmindthe RADEON 9250 should have acceliration though02:44
barbasMy winmodem died a few minutes. Think I am not booting to windows again. Thanks ubuntu. :)02:44
webmindMalsid, will try02:44
webmindas soon as I figure out how to boot without gui02:44
thoreauputicavinoam21: there is oss emulation, and esd and alsa - it's rather convoluted02:44
useruserwebmind: apt-get remove gdm02:44
webminduseruser, you need a console for that02:45
novaflareother than that ill just come in here and hang out while horay reinstalls heh02:45
avinoam21by the way, if i wanted to use kde i'd have to get kubuntu?02:45
useruserwebmind: indeed02:45
novaflarebut i dont know02:45
useruserwebmind: control-alt-f202:45
Malsidwebmind: Have you tried recovery mode?02:45
thoreauputicavinoam21: for instance, esd is disabled by choice on my machine ( I use jackd or arts or just oss emulation)02:45
novaflarewith my streak of beginers luck i half expect this to go flawlessly and work the same way lol02:46
barbasReally does anyone know the codename for ubuntu 5.10? I am really curious...02:46
webminduseruser, keyboard crashes02:46
webmindMalsid, doing so now02:46
thoreauputicbarbas: Breezy Badger02:46
barbaswow02:46
barbas:)02:46
useruserwebmind: eh?02:46
Guerinhow hard is warty->hoary upgrade for someone completely clueless02:46
Guerin?02:46
useruserGuerin: for someone completely clueless, finding the way out of bed each morning is a mission02:47
Guerinuseruser: granted.02:47
Fikrannlol02:47
webmindMalsid, works with NoAccel02:47
Malsid: )02:47
Guerinuseruser: but that said; is it a simple dist-upgrade, no hassles02:47
novaflarerofl rich02:47
novaflaresetting up freenet6 tunnel done02:48
thoreauputicGuerin: not hard, really - you basically change "warty" to "hoary" in /etc/apt/sources.list, then issue sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade02:48
Malsidwebmind: It's a driver problem there are 3 drivers out there.02:48
useruserGuerin: bah. you're asking someone to open an xterm of Doom?02:48
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damyandamyan is there valknut on  bla-bla.ubuntu.archive.com ?02:48
webmindMalsid, any that will work fully ?02:48
useruserGuerin: and then type crap?02:48
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Guerinthoreauputic: i know HOW; i want to know if it'll break...02:48
damyanor i have to compile it myself ?02:48
thoreauputicGuerin: heheh - OK sorry :)02:48
useruserGuerin: give them a shiny button that says "update to latest version" or something02:49
Malsidwebmind: Depends on your graphics card, don't know any more than that I'm afraid.02:49
thoreauputicGuerin: it shouldn't break02:49
webmindMalsid, ok02:49
webmindMalsid, you know which drivers there are ?02:49
Fikrannwebmind, drivers for?02:49
thoreauputicGuerin: unless you have weird stuff like backports or marillat repositories02:49
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webmindFikrann, ati radeon 925002:50
_kevineverytime i try to use mp3splt i get an error message saying "Error: input does not appear to be a valid mp3 stream"02:50
_kevinwhat does that mean02:50
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novaflareahh your in ca webmind?02:50
novaflareif i recall correctly thats the ca number for the ati radeon 920002:51
Fikrannwebmind, you can try 'radeon' xorg driver, it should provide acceleration.02:51
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AdamkovicHello all, i am problem with Evolution. If i create subfolder in drafts and if i write any draft in this subfolder and if i make changes in mail draft in this subfolder and save it, then draft is saved in drafts, not in my subfolder. Is here any solution for this problem? PS: My english is so ughly, sorry please.02:51
Malsidwebmind: Indeed, you've probably got the 'ati' driver right now.02:52
chaitanyacan anyone tell me the lines to put in my sources.list to install libmikmod?02:52
Malsidwebmind: Try the radeon and keep me posted, if you could : )02:53
novaflarehmm02:53
Fikrannchaitanya, mikmod is in main02:53
novaflarewell the upgrade or killing of horay seems to have finished02:53
novaflarei guess i need to reboot um heh02:53
novaflarewith loads and loads of luck brb02:54
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thoreauputicchaitanya: it's libmikmod2 by the way02:54
avinoam21If i download kubuntu with apt-get can i use both gnome and kde?02:55
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tfari've downloaded the kubuntu-desktop package but it still starts with gnome. how can i change this?02:55
Fikrannavinoam21, yes02:55
thoreauputicavinoam21: yes - but install it as ` sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop`02:55
avinoam21but then i have two copies of office don't i?02:56
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thoreauputictfar: choose KDE as your session on login?02:56
thoreauputicavinoam21: no02:56
eskaypeyey02:56
AMDXPthoreauputic: what was that command again to check sound02:56
FikrannSo .. we got rid of novaflare for at least few hours..02:56
webmindI'll try the radeon in a bit02:56
eskaypeyhow do i find out wheather i have wep of wpa02:56
webmindati didn't work02:56
avinoam21So I don't need any redundant software?02:56
eskaypeyor*02:56
thoreauputicAMDXP: you mean alsamixer, or the lspci command?02:57
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AMDXPalsamixer i tried lspci and didnt show anything02:57
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thoreauputicavinoam21: apt will take care of you ;)02:57
Fikrannavinoam21, no, apt won't install the same package twice. But it will install >similar< packages used by both enviroinments.02:57
avinoam21i'm concerned about disk space02:57
thoreauputicAMDXP: alsamixer is just a mixer app (volume control etc)02:57
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AMDXPalsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory02:58
thoreauputicavinoam21: hopw much space do you have?02:58
yahalomcan someone tell me what i need to change in interface in order to prevent getting d/c everytime my ip is renewed?02:58
Snake-OilHi02:58
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avinoam21I have to check how much02:58
avinoam21i'm at work now02:58
chaitanyai am trying to switch to oss02:58
chaitanyai guess alsa will not work, thoreauputic02:58
yahalomavinoam21, shalom02:58
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TribooNhi all02:58
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avinoam21yahalom mah nishma achi02:59
Snake-Oilhi02:59
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podgeyahalom: d/c?02:59
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m0tdhey guys, I need some help troubleshooting using a wireless card with ndiswrapper. Anyone up for helping me, please?02:59
yahalomavinoam21, sababa ma itcha?02:59
van_disconnect?02:59
lesshasteis it true that there is no official upgrade process from one version of ubuntu to another?02:59
yahalompodge, disconnect02:59
Fikrannyahalom, if you get your ip changed, there's nothing that can help prevent you from getting disconnected.02:59
thoreauputicchaitanya: as I already said, you *have* to use alsa - it's built in - the oss layer is mere emulation, not the old oss of 2.4 kernels, as far as I know02:59
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yahalomFikrann, i can make sure it stops checking for my ip02:59
avinoam21It is a shame that kde and gnome don't use the same packages02:59
yahalomFikrann, i forgot the settings03:00
Snake-OilAFAIK03:00
yahalomFikrann, works like a charm03:00
chaitanyathen thoreauputic, please tell me how03:00
AMDXPthoreauputic: it doesnt even see my laptop sound card03:00
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_kevinI'm using a program called mp3splt and i try to break up a large mp3 into tracks via cue file, but everytime i try to do so with mp3splt i get an error message that reads "Error: input does not appear to be a valid mp3 stream" Whats does this mean and how can i get this to work?03:00
m0tdI have the card's driver loaded with ndiswrapper. I have it all configured as is correct for my network. However, I can't get on the network with it. When I do an ifconfig on the interface, I see that it has received quite a few packets, but transmitted none.03:00
avinoam21AMDXP see www.linuxforlaptops.org03:00
lesshasteor to put it another way, how to upgrade from one ubuntu version to the next??03:00
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thenukelesshaste: ubuntuguide.org has it03:00
m0tdlesshaste: search the ubuntu forums03:01
thoreauputicchaitanya: I'm not a sound expert, sorry - I just made a few obvious suggestions you could try: maybe someone with more knowledge can help03:01
Fikrannyahalom, you can kill dhclient3, but don't be surprised if you get weird problems like someone else getting your current ip assigned.03:01
m0tdand ubuntuguide03:01
Snake-Oilubuntu is a live sytem03:01
avinoam21It,s time to head home, it's 4:00PM here03:01
ahmetsartke bilen03:01
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ahmetsartrke bile03:01
m0tdI have the card's driver loaded with ndiswrapper. I have it all configured as is correct for my network. However, I can't get on the network with it. When I do an ifconfig on the interface, I see that it has received quite a few packets, but transmitted none.03:01
Snake-Oil?03:01
thenukeahmetsar: english please03:01
Snake-Oilahmetsar:  ???03:01
m0tddoes anyone have some ideas?03:01
yahalomFikrann, not that. something in /usr/lib/ppr/interfaces03:01
TribooNi got a problem installing the java jdk. I tried 'sudo apt-get install java-package fakeroot' but i got the answer 'coult not find java package'03:02
TribooNbut i downloaded the jdk.bin03:02
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Snake-Oilm0td:  what ideas?03:02
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novaflare..03:02
novaflareit went boom :)03:03
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PepsIs it normal for a firewall to keep all ports above 1024 as "closed" and not as "stealth"?03:03
yahalomFikrann, /etc/network/interfaces03:03
smoserwhat is the preferred way to get the patches provided by linux-patch-2.6.X ... to /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.10 ?03:03
Fikrannnovaflare, we told you03:03
yahalommy mistake03:03
novaflarequick question during install possible to install fglrx drivers?03:03
yahalomFikrann, # The primary network interface03:03
yahalomiface eth0 inet dhcp this needs to be changed03:03
m0tdSnake-Oil: I have the card's driver loaded with ndiswrapper. I have it all configured as is correct for my03:03
smoserI'd like to get my /usr/src/linux into the state that drivers can expect to build from it.03:03
m0td              network. However, I can't get on the network with it. When I do an ifconfig on the interface, I see03:03
thoreauputicTribooN: I think you need the multiverse repository03:03
m0td              that it has received quite a few packets, but transmitted none.03:03
thenukePeps: I dont know if that matters at all if they are closed or stealth03:03
smoser(external drivers)03:03
thoreauputic! restricted03:03
ubotuI guess restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats03:03
TribooNhm? .. i'll google that first i guess :)03:03
yahalomthoreauputic, u know what i need to change this to: # The primary network interface03:04
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yahalomiface eth0 inet dhcp03:04
Pepsstealth is better03:04
thoreauputicTribooN: read the bot's URL03:04
Snake-Oilm0td:  oh... hehe03:04
webmindMalsid, still crashes03:04
m0tdyahalom: my network doesn't use dhcp03:04
TribooNwell i try to find pages in german03:04
novaflarecause if possible to install those drivers i would like to do soduring the install instead of after03:04
Snake-Oilm0td:  keyword is ...03:04
yahalomm0td, what settings u have?03:04
Quaruptedanyone in here using fglrx driver?03:04
thoreauputicyahalom: I use static addresses03:04
m0tdshould I pastebin my /etc/network/interfaces file?03:04
Malsidwebmind: But you got in before with noaccel right?03:04
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Fikrannyahalom, if your network is using dhcp, not using it is asking for administrator rage.03:04
yahalomthoreauputic, thats what i need: so what does ur entry look ike?03:05
webmindMalsid, this is without noaccel03:05
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yahalomFikrann, well i'm paying them for a service.03:05
webmindMalsid, with it probably lives yes03:05
m0tdhttp://pastebin.ca/1317603:05
yahalomFikrann, i get disconnected every 30 minutes when i use dhcp03:05
m0tdeth2 is the card I'm trying to get to work03:05
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Malsidwebmind: But you're using the radeon driver yes?03:06
lesshastethenuke,  Warning! This is still in it's development stage. Only use it for experimental purposes03:06
Fikrannyahalom, and you'll probably get into problems for disrupting their service.03:06
lesshastethenuke, I was going Warthog to Hoary03:06
thoreauputicyahalom: I can paste mine in #flood if you wish03:06
yahalomthoreauputic, yes plz03:06
webmindMalsid, yes03:06
lesshastem0td, from  Warthog to Hoary ?03:06
yahalomFikrann, then i'll change isp for bad service :)03:06
yahalomthoreauputic, i'm there03:06
aghathai03:06
webmindMalsid, (radeon | ati) + NoAccel=>false == hangup/crash03:06
thenukelesshaste: What did gave you that error03:06
lesshastethenuke, no error. I am reading ubuntuguide like you said03:07
m0tdlesshaste: I believe so03:07
Malsidwebmind: I suppose the only thing left is to try the fglrx drivers, sorry.03:07
aghat#Bandung03:07
lesshastethenuke, http://ubuntuguide.org/#upgradehoarytobreezy03:07
Fikrannwebmind, use fglrx, then, from Ati website03:07
Snake-Oilumm, if you had choose03:07
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webmindok03:07
thenukelesshaste: ufff.. Hoary to breeze is not warty to hoary03:07
lesshastethenuke, yes... I want warty to hoary03:08
lesshastethenuke, there are no docs for that03:08
thenukelesshaste: you need to use ubuntuguide for warty03:08
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thenukecheck the first page of the guide03:08
thenukethere is link03:08
yahalomthoreauputic, does this make sense: iface eth0 inet static address 0.0.0.0?03:08
Fikrannlesshaste, this Will Not Work (yet)03:08
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lesshastethenuke, ah! found that03:08
thoreauputicyahalom: I don't think so :)03:09
yahalomthoreauputic, what part, the 0.0.0.0?03:09
thoreauputicyahalom: 0.0.0.0 is like, anywhere03:09
Fikrannyahalom, of course it doesn't03:09
yahalomthoreauputic, ignore the 0.0.0.0 thats how it works03:09
thoreauputic?03:09
webmindfglrx == firegl drivers ?03:09
yahalomthoreauputic, if i put 0.0.0.0 i never get disconnected03:09
bobpI'm with you on the 'ease of ubuntu installs cause I do them so often'03:10
lesshastethenuke, thx.. strange that when you put in the hoary cd it doesn't offer to upgrade03:10
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yahalomthoreauputic, iface eth0 inet static <---fine? i'm missing something with an "a" i think03:10
novaflarethis is my secound time03:10
Fikrannwebmind, yes03:10
yahalomFikrann, ignore the 0.0.0.003:10
novaflarei avoided ubuntu at first03:10
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bobpmy 10th or so03:10
_kevinhow do i install files in tar.gz03:10
yahalomthoreauputic, what option starts with an "a"03:10
novaflarecause it said text only for the install03:10
yahalomthoreauputic, ?03:10
_kevini downloaded03:10
aghat#bandung03:10
lesshasteso why doesn't it offer to upgrade when you boot off hoary?03:10
lesshasteand can that feature be added ? :)03:11
thoreauputicyahalom: you've lost me...03:11
novaflarebut geeze its like 12 keystrokes to setand forget03:11
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bobpbe sure to read the unofficial guide (REALLY good stuff for newbies like me)03:11
Fikrannyahalom, it's better to use 1.2.3.4 or something similar as IP stub, since 0.0.0.0 is reserved address.03:11
thoreauputicyahalom: I just pasted what works for me03:11
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thenukelesshaste: I guess that it's not so smart that it would know to offer you upgrading when you insert some cd in, and it most often needs net to upgrade03:11
novaflareif rubies ends up working right after this03:11
bobp_kevin -- can you see this?03:11
AMDXPwhat is the command to get system stats?03:11
novaflareill be doing one more install of ubuntu03:11
yahalomFikrann, man. all i know is that this is the only way i stay connected :(03:11
novaflarecause ill give it my entire 60 gigs space03:12
novaflareand not have windows on my hd at all03:12
_kevinyes03:12
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_kevinbobp i see it03:12
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davidfraseris it possible to use ubuntu as a server with thin clients? without using ltsp?03:12
rootyop03:12
rootI need help03:12
yahalomFikrann, i'll leave it on dhcp and see if it disconnect sme03:13
yahalomthanx guys03:13
bobp_kevin -- thanks -- I got the 'yes' in black & white, and 'bobp...' in color -- how am I supposed to (politely) work this thing?03:13
Fikranndavidfraser, yes.03:13
thoreauputicdavidfraser: yes, any linux system can do remote X or ssh -X03:13
rootwhy my wlan0 doesn t work on my kernel 2.6.1003:13
rootwhy my wlan0 doesn t work on my kernel 2.6.10-503:13
Quaruptediis there a good mp3 player for linux, like winamp, better than xmms?03:13
lesshastethenuke, I mean it complains that there is an existing install without offering to upgrade it03:13
davidfrasergreat, will it support local USB devices like cameras etc on the thin client?03:13
thoreauputicQuarupted: several03:13
lesshastethenuke, it's not like it can't recognise warty!03:13
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AdamkovicQuarupted: Beep media player.03:13
thoreauputicQuarupted: try beep-media-player03:13
novaflarehmm03:14
lokwell bmp isn't better than xmms03:14
rootnobody for me?03:14
davidfraserthoreauputic: just wondering about how easy it would be to set up the thin clients ... booting over the network etc03:14
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novaflaretempted to take atis drivers from their site and alient them to .deb and see what happens03:14
Gerlingdoes anyone know about the /etc/filesystems file that is common to Debian but is missing in ubuntu?03:14
Adamkoviclok: But GTK2.03:14
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rootwhy my wlan0 doesn t work on my kernel 2.6.10-5????????????????03:14
lokyes03:14
Fikrannroot, why do you expect us to go through the pain of extricating details from you?03:14
chaitanyahi03:14
GerlingI am trying to mount a msdos floppy disk by using rox-filer03:14
thenukelesshaste: ahhh.. you mean that when you start the install from the cd..03:15
chaitanyamy computer does not have a /dev/dsp03:15
lesshastethenuke, exactly03:15
Methynutnutroot: The best we can tell you from the information you've given us is that you've configured it incorrectly03:15
rootFikrann what details!?03:15
lokbut with theme the gtk2 isn't very usefull03:15
chaitanyacan someone please tell me how to create a proper /dev/dsp?03:15
thoreauputicdavidfraser: booting over the network I haven't tried, but ssh -X is basically a thin client thing (with encryption)03:15
thenukelesshaste: well, don't know about it. but wild guess would be that there is a reason for that03:15
rootMethynutnut: but it orks on my old kernel03:15
lesshastethenuke, :) laziness on the part of the unpaid developer ?03:15
lokchaitanya: you haven't to create one03:15
Methynutnutroot: OK, that's a handy bit of information. Check your kernel modules?03:15
Fikrannroot, some important details you forgot to mention to us.03:15
davidfraserthoreauputic: yes I know about using ssh -X, but I want to set up a lab where they all boot off the server ... doesn't seem to be any info on the wiki other than ltsp...03:16
loklook in /dev/audio or /dev/mixer03:16
thenukelesshaste: might be true aswell, dont really know :)03:16
lesshaste:)03:16
rootMethynutnut: how?03:16
roothow i switchj in console fenetre03:16
Methynutnutok I'm with Fikrann03:16
MethynutnutI can't be stuffed pulling out all the information03:16
roothow i switchj in console windows03:16
root?03:16
chaitanyacan you help me with a problem lok?03:16
Guerinhrm, whatever I try I can't raise anything other than "no device found' on warty on this guy's machine03:16
thenukelesshaste: but I guess that they believe that about every user has net03:16
Guerinit's pretty stock stuff, and works with the livecd03:16
chaitanyamy audio's not working and xmms gives the error "cannot open /dev/dsp"03:17
chaitanyaplease help lok03:17
Methynutnutchaitanya: what sound system are you using?03:17
novaflareblast i did forget one thing before rebooting i wanted to drop my xorg.conf and cedega config file to my apache driver so i could make a copy of them and replace once reinstall was done03:17
novaflareahh well03:17
Snake-Oilchaitanya:  sound group?03:17
rootMethynutnut: you are here?03:17
Methynutnutroot: yes I am03:17
rootthen?03:18
thoreauputicroot: why are you IRC ing as root (not just your nick: you show as root) ? It's *very* insecure03:18
Guerinwhy does #ubuntu even allow it?03:18
chaitanyai am using alsa Snake-Oil , Methynutnut03:18
Snake-Oilthoreauputic:  really?03:18
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Methynutnutroot: There is no "then" I am just here03:18
novaflareyikes thats a realy bad idea03:18
Snake-Oilchaitanya:  so?03:18
thoreauputicSnake-Oil: of course03:18
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novaflarenever run as root learned that when i was on ed hat03:18
Fikrannthoreauputic, yes, he is ircing from root account.03:18
Methynutnutchaitanya: Well you need to make sure you've installed your drivers, and I think it has a snddevices script to create them if they're missing03:19
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thoreauputicFikrann: I know03:19
rootbut i have not choice i am in the recuperating console03:19
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rootwith any faillure *03:19
Snake-Oilchaitanya:  alsa-oss installed ?03:19
Guerinroot: adduser badger; su badger03:19
chaitanyacan you tell me how to use it Methynutnut?03:19
chaitanyayes it is Snake-Oil03:19
Methynutnutchaitanya: well are you installing alsa from source?03:19
rootGuerin: how changed windows??03:20
rootctrl+alt+fn?03:20
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Snake-Oilchaitanya:  does root can play sound ?03:20
rootbut it doesn t work03:20
Guerinroot: alt+F[123456] 03:20
Guerinoh03:20
Guerinno idea then03:20
rooterf03:20
FikrannGuerin, he's in emergency console.03:20
Guerinsounds like single user mode to me, my bad03:20
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rootyes Fikrann03:21
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GerlingDoes anyone konw how nautilius mounts dos floppys I am trying to get it to mount dos disks with rox without success03:21
rootwell i reboot then03:21
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rooti ll see late03:21
Quarupteddoes ubuntu have some kind of visual task manager03:21
Fikrannroot, try modprobbing driver for your wlan card03:22
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peaceyall`hi03:22
lokQuarupted: top03:22
rootFikrann:03:22
FikrannQuarupted, not really.03:22
lokps aux03:22
MethynutnutQuarupted: well top is reasonably visual, is it not?03:22
rootFikrann: i tryed without succes03:22
peaceyall`my battery life on linux is very short , only 1 hour and 45 mins but on windows it is 3 hours and 35 mins ? why?03:22
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novaflarehmm03:23
rootsudo reboot03:23
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rootarf chit03:23
FikrannThen hotplug is required, you need to try booting to single user mode.03:23
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Quaruptedtop doesnt display everything03:23
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chaitanyasorry, got disconnected03:23
Quaruptedi need to kill limewire but i dunno its pid03:23
rootFikrann: hmm i don t understand03:23
novaflareim guessing your cpu supports some form of speed scaling peaceyall you might need to enable that manualy03:23
MethynutnutQuarupted: killall limewire03:23
Quaruptedtried that03:23
rootFikrann: its real i have a proble xith hotblog in booting03:23
chaitanyacan i please know abotu the scripit that you all were talking abt?03:23
Methynutnutwell what's the executable called?03:23
novaflarein windows it would prob be turned on by your laptops manufacture03:24
root"module wlan doesn t found"03:24
chaitanyaDear Methynutnut, plase tell me the name of script again..03:24
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Methynutnutchaitanya: snddevices03:24
chaitanyamissed it.. got disconnected, sorry03:24
chaitanyaand where can i find it? Methynutnut?03:24
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Methynutnutchaitanya: though as far as I am aware, it shouldn't need to be used. If you just go through and do the configure make make install for your driver, devices will show up03:24
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MethynutnutIIRC, the snddevices script is in the folder that alsa-driver extracts to03:25
MethynutnutIt's a 3 step process... compile & install your driver, load the drivers into the kernel, configure your applications to use alsa03:26
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chaitanyai am using  Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Audio Controller (sound)03:26
chaitanyacan you help me?03:26
Methynutnutwell maybe03:26
chaitanyaMethynutnut?03:26
Snake-Oilchaitanya:  bad chipset03:26
Methynutnutdo you have alsa?03:26
chaitanyayes ido03:26
FikrannBy the way, does anyone know if stock ubuntu kernel supports cpu frequency scaling?03:27
chaitanyaand alsa-oss too03:27
chaitanyawhat should i do Snake-Oil?03:27
Methynutnutright well I think the three modules I installed were snd-mixer, snd-oss and snd-ca0106 (this last one being for my audigy ls)03:27
walbob2 are u awake?03:27
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Snake-Oilchaitanya:  You had better to recompie a new kernel03:28
chaitanyaand ..03:28
MethynutnutSnake-Oil: Why's that? I didn't03:28
Fikrannchaitanya, check if you have snd-intel8x0 loaded03:28
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chaitanyahow do i do that Fikrann?03:28
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Fikrannchaitanya, lsmod03:28
adnansyeow, new nvidia drivers.. with opengl 2.0 support!03:28
Methynutnutchaitanya: lsmod03:28
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Snake-Oilchaitanya:  $lsmod03:29
Methynutnutchaitanya: have you compiled the alsa driver yet?03:29
Snake-Oilchaitanya:  hot-plug installed?03:29
chaitanyayes its there.. the line is there....03:29
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Methynutnutah ok03:29
novaflareyeh yeh rubit in adnans us poor ati users get so few driver updates ....03:29
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Akseliihey03:30
chaitanyahot-plug was giving some error messages while booting03:30
Akseliiwhats the ISDN support of ubuntu?03:30
Akseliiis it good?03:30
adnansnovaflare, sorry :)03:30
novaflareheheh03:30
Snake-Oilchaitanya:  udev + hot-plug installed?03:30
chaitanyayes03:30
Akseliii have ubuntu CDs here, and i would like to install ubuntu if it has good ISDN support03:30
Methynutnutok so we have the correct module installed, yet you're missing the device? :/03:30
Akseliidoes it have?03:30
chaitanyaSnake-Oil, yes03:30
novaflarethats ok give ati time and they will eat nvidia for lunch on linux buhahahah (kidding of course)03:30
ianwhat is the best cdwriting app for ubunto that does not use cdrecord?03:30
FikrannAkselii, yes.03:30
Snake-Oilchaitanya:  (ghost was in kernel)03:30
AkseliiFikrann: is it how good?03:30
chaitanyahot-plug was giving some error messages while bootup03:31
AkseliiFikrann: like easy to use?03:31
Snake-Oilchaitanya:  so...03:31
FikrannAkselii, no idea03:31
Akseliieh03:31
Akseliiumm k03:31
Methynutnutwell it's getting late, I'm off to bed, good luck chaitanya03:31
smoserian, there probably aren't any03:31
Akseliiill try03:31
Snake-Oilchaitanya:  try modprobe?03:31
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smoserian, why do you not want cdrecord.03:31
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iansmoser: i have tried gnomebaker.. and tried to used terminal for cd writing ...no luck..it freezes..03:32
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chaitanyamodprobe gives blank output Snake-Oil for snd_ac97_codec03:33
chaitanyawhat to do next Snake-Oil?03:33
Snake-Oilchaitanya:  you need the other modules...03:33
Fikrannian, what drive you have?03:33
chaitanyaso what should i do next Snake-Oil?03:33
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IFRFLYRANyone know of a good chat for LAN which has a Windows and Linux client?03:34
GuerinIFRFLYR: email03:34
poningrulol03:34
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IFRFLYRGuerin, yes, I see. That's a good one. Anyone else?03:34
FikrannIFRFLYR, irc03:34
GuerinIFRFLYR: you can also install a jabberd or an ircd locally.03:34
nosilver4uIFRFLYR: jabber03:35
Snake-Oilchaitanya: aye... a long long story03:35
ianFikrann: cyberdrive.. it can read data..but cannot write.. here is the error.. http://pastebin.com/03:35
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IFRFLYRnosilver4u, thanks!03:35
ianFikrann: here the error http://pastebin.com/29388703:35
IFRFLYRGuerin, thanks too! ;)03:35
chaitanyaatleast can point me to some resource Snake-Oil?03:35
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Fikrannian, no wonder you can't write.03:36
IFRFLYRFikrann, I was thinking that I could keep it local, though, rather than sending our messages across the world to get across the building! But you're right, of course, it would work just fine!03:36
Snake-Oilchaitanya:   in /lib/modules/<kernel ver>/sound/oss/03:36
ianFikrann: why?03:36
FikrannIFRFLYR, then why don't you install your own irc server?03:36
Fikrannian, do you see any files named 'hdb' in your root directory?03:37
Snake-Oilchaitanya:   try those modules one by one03:37
poningrujust use jabber03:37
chaitanyathere is no such directory, Snake-Oil03:37
ChoubakaASDFASDADASFASDF. Grah.03:37
IFRFLYRThat was actually what I was asking about, but jabber seems to be the way to go. Thanks everyone!03:37
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ChoubakaI haven't managed to get it compile :(03:38
Snake-Oilchaitanya:   ogg .... a new *fine* kernel <- all of you need03:38
Fikrannchaitanya, I do agree03:38
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Snake-Oilchaitanya:   or... you just need a google keyword03:39
chaitanyado i have to compile the sources from scratch?03:39
chaitanyaor should i download from ubuntu?03:39
noddabaI installed Hoary onto a raid5 array.  the installation went fine, but now, whenever I try to run lilo, i get this error:  "Warning: '/proc/partitions' does not match '/dev' directory structure.  Name change: '/dev/dm-0' -> '/dev/evms/hde2' Fatal: is_primary:  Not a valid device  0xFD03".  The only way I can update lilo is by rebooting with the install CD, mounting the raid array, chroot'ing to it, and running lilo from there03:39
noddaba.  Can anyone help?03:39
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mike__Where are the "incoming" servers for Ubuntu?03:40
Snake-Oilchaitanya:   file a bug?03:40
thoreauputicnoddaba: um - why lilo? Ubuntu uses grub?03:40
Fikrannnoddaba, install grub ...03:40
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Gerrit89Can somebody help me?03:40
Gerrit89i installed linux first time03:40
Snake-Oilno03:40
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Gerrit89and it just doesnt save the data03:40
Gerrit89what filesystem needs linux partition?03:41
Snake-OilGerrit89:  me too ^-^03:41
Gerrit89and i cant see other NTFS Partitions and so i cant write on them03:41
noddabai guess i should.  i installed lilo because i was used to it.  is it difficult to switch over to grub on an existing system?03:41
FikrannGerrit89, the less vague questions you ask the more easily you will get them answered03:41
lamp_ext, reiserfs, xfs, .......03:41
egliMy junk mail filtering in Evolution in Hoary doesn't seem to work03:41
Gerrit89i am not englisch03:41
Gerrit89english03:41
egliGoogle tells me that I need to install spamassasin03:41
thoreauputicGerrit89: writing to ntfs is not supported by default03:41
Gerrit89so i cant speak english soooooo well03:41
FikrannGerrit89, writing to NTFS is NOT SUPPORTED03:41
Snake-OilGerrit89:  me too ^-^03:41
ianFikrann: sorry..wrong paste.. :)  here is the right one.. http://pastebin.com/29388903:42
Gerrit89and the linux partition?03:42
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eglibut I thought there were plans to make bogofilter work in Hoary03:42
Gerrit89shall i convert to fat32?03:42
gentoonanyone know where the sudoers file is?03:42
eglihave these plans materialized or do I still need spamassasin?03:42
thoreauputicgentoon: /etc/sudoers03:42
lamp_Gerrit89: german? >>>>#ubuntu-de03:42
Hoxzeregli: do you have any genital diseases?03:42
Fikrannian, you don't have hdd mounted somewhere, do you?03:42
mike__Gerrit89, If you're installing Linux, you should probably use a Linux-type filesystem such as ext2/3 or reiserfs instead of NTFS or FAT03:42
novaflarewoot at ubuntu boot up again03:42
novaflaretime to install my kernel for k703:43
poningruanyone have a tool for editing videos03:43
Snake-OilGerrit89:  so you just to buy a computer which was linux ready03:43
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poningrukinda like a GIMP for videos03:43
Gerrit89linux partition is EXT203:43
Gerrit89but i saved some settings and they weren loaded03:43
FikrannGerrit89, for your linux partition choose xfs or reiserfs03:43
ianFikrann: /dev/hdd is my cdrom device.. im new in linux.. :(03:43
Gerrit89ohm i got partition magic03:44
poningrureiserfs >*03:44
Gerrit89i guess it cant convert to those types03:44
Fikrannian, do you have cdrom opened somewhere?03:44
poningruqtparted03:44
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Gerrit89and ...03:44
Snake-OilGerrit89:  windoze tools sucks03:44
poningrugerrit89: can you burn cds?03:44
Gerrit89with Linux?03:44
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ianFikrann: yes i can open and read the files03:44
Gerrit89i dont know how03:44
lamp_resize your win-partitions and make space for linux03:44
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mike__Does Ubuntu have a server comparable to "incoming" a la Debian?  If so, where is it?03:44
Snake-OilGerrit89:  never think about it03:44
thoreauputicGerrit89: just leave free space for linux: the installer can format file systems for you (default is ext3)03:45
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poningruhttp://www.sysresccd.org/03:45
ianFikrann: heres a part of my fstab /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  003:45
poningrugerrit89: http://www.sysresccd.org/03:45
poningruuse that if you can03:45
Gerrit89so just tell me please03:45
poningrubest thing ever03:45
Fikrannian, close _ALL_ file manager windows, then try writing again03:45
Gerrit89What type for : Linux, Windows, Others Partitions with games and music03:45
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mike__Gerrit89, Sprechen sie Deutsch?  Join #ubuntu-de03:45
van_hi, have 2 questions: 1) how to look at the ram ussage 2) are there any good internet browsers besides firefox?03:46
Gerrit89ja aber ich hab keine lust denen auch nochmal alles zu erklren03:46
Snake-OilGerrit89:  how about .... a new hard drive?03:46
thoreauputicvan_: top, and yes - galeon, epiphany-browser , mozilla, konqueror03:46
poningruanyone here uses powernow with their amd cpu?03:46
lamp_linuxboy: swap + ext2/3 or reiser or xfs or.....03:46
mike__Gerrit89, Ich sprechen keine Deutsch, but you should be able to get help in German over on the #ubuntu-de channel.03:46
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ianFikrann: same problem ... do i need to reboot?03:47
Fikrannvan_, free -m. And Opera, though it's not free03:47
Gerrit89okok thank you03:47
lamp_:o03:47
poningruvan_: whats wrong with ff?03:47
van_thnx03:47
Fikrannian, paste the output of: lsof /dev/hdd03:47
arcticblueich libe dich...03:47
poningruvan_: also you can use the system monitor to look at it03:47
van_nothing, just wanna now what else i could use :) i'm still gona use firefox :)03:48
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van_thanx for the answers03:48
gentoonman i keep getting this Xauthority error and i have to create a new user or i cant access any installed WM?03:48
gentoonwhats up with that?03:48
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ianFikrann: no output03:48
van_hm...is this normal that 366 mb of 376 are used running gnome, firefox ar xchat?03:48
ianFikrann: ian@ubuntu:~$ sudo lsof /dev/hdd03:49
ianian@ubuntu:~$03:49
Fikranngentoon, keep asking vague questions and we'll keep giving you vague answers.03:49
ianFikrann: i have put a blank cd..03:49
Fikrannian, no output is okay03:49
thoreauputicvan_: most of that is buffers and cache03:49
ianFikrann: what do you think went wrong?03:49
Fikrannian, though it's somewhat contradictory to what cdrecord is saying.03:50
Fikrannian, paste result of cdrecord --scanbus03:50
_kevinbeep media playter only support winamp 2.xx themes meaning the Classic winamp themes03:50
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mike__Does Ubuntu have an "incoming" server?03:51
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IcemanV9_ian: don't paste more than 3 lines in this channel!! paste it in ubuntu.pastebin.com03:51
Fikrannmike__, what do you call 'incoming server'03:51
Fikrann?03:51
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mike__Fikrann, Similar to "incoming.debian.org"03:51
mike__Fikrann, For packages in PENDINGUPLOAD status03:52
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thoreauputicFikrann: cdrecord --scanbus is useless on 2.6.* kernels (unless scsi emulation is enabled)03:52
ianFikrann: heres the output http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/29389503:52
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Fikrannmike__, it seems that it's an inofficial repository. You might want to grep ubuntu wiki for 'backports'03:53
novaflarewhats the driver name for fglrx in xorg.conf fglrx or fglx?03:53
dos000hi, anyone installed hoary on dell machines ? i tried on 2 machines (one dell 750 one asus k8v se deluxe) both with sata drives and it is a nightmare. Debian installer went ok tho !03:53
Fikrannthoreauputic, I don't agree.03:53
thoreauputicFikrann: pffft03:53
novaflarenvm will look at how to03:53
mike__Fikrann, Thanks; will check there.03:54
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ianFikrann: what do you think?03:54
Fikrannian, sorry, but that's not exactly I meant. cdrecord -scanbus03:54
dos000i should say i m trying to do soft raid as well03:54
Fikrannian, I must've made a typo03:54
bloggs3056Just installed 5.04, but my web pages load so slow - any ideas?03:54
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Fikrannbloggs3056, and my desktop is blue.03:55
poningrubloggs: what browser do you use?03:55
poningrugive us more info03:55
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thoreauputicFikrann: that command will just output an error  - see if I care that you don't listen03:55
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thoreauputicFikrann: there has been a lot of documentation about this03:56
noddabacan someone point me to where i can find on how to configure grub to boot from a raid5 array?03:56
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poningrunoddaba: search the wiki03:56
Nasokhow can i connect my internet in ubuntu if my dial up is PPP03:56
Fikranndos000, try withnout soft raid.03:56
noddabai've found how to do raid103:56
poningruits in their somewhere03:56
ianFikrann: http://pastebin.com/293900. i think it has the same error..03:56
noddabaponingru, ok, thanks03:57
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dos000Fikrann, i did and it works fine.03:57
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thoreauputicof course it does...03:57
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bloggs3056firefox 1.0203:57
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bobphow can I resolve /lib/cpp fails sanity test?  The real cpp is in /usr/bin03:57
jacquesmerdedoes nautilus-burner in ubuntu have known bugs? or am i just incredibly unlucky?03:57
poningrunoddaba: sorry I wasnt much use but I remember its in there somewhere03:57
dos000noddaba, pray share !03:57
adnansjacq: recommend just using k3b03:57
adnansjacquesmerde, even03:57
bloggs3056I tried the about:config trick disabling ipv6 - but no change03:58
dos000noddaba, from the installer ?03:58
jacquesmerdehe says after i just toasted my last cdr with nautilus-burner...03:58
Fikrannian,  it seems that I haven't touched cdrecord directly my knowledge got outdated.03:58
thoreauputicbobp: sudo apt-get install build-essential03:58
noddabanoddaba, no.  i already have the system installed, initially with lilo.  having problems with lilo though, so i'm giving grub a try03:59
ianFikrann: :(03:59
bobpthanks thereauputic!03:59
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fabshello all03:59
noddabaoops.  that was to you dos00003:59
Fikrannian, pm me, please.03:59
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Nasokhow can i connect my internet in ubuntu if my dial up is PPP03:59
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fabsGuys, I have just bought a 512MB DDR Memory, how can i see the tot amount of mem I have got?03:59
thoreauputicNasok: run ` sudo pppconfig`, and connect with the "pon" command04:00
Fikrannfabs, in bios, for example04:00
thoreauputicNasok: disconnect with "poff"04:00
spanglesontoastanyone know where the audio config file is for americas army?04:00
ianFikrann:  i have pm ...you.. :)04:00
dos000noddaba, it looks like there are major issues with hoary installer with raid !04:00
fabsFikrann, thanks but a way to do it in Ubuntu?04:00
Fikrannfabs, yes. free -m04:01
fabsFikrann, oh great thanks it works : 758mb tot it says :)04:01
noddabados000, yeah, there were.  i had to do follow this: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/InstallingToRAID1, but instead of using the raid1 module, i used raid5.  unfortunately, now that's the only way i can update my boot record :(04:02
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fabsOh another thing, why this command woun't work: sudo proc/meminfo ??04:03
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ZoohouseI am having trouble with the repos. I have my repos setup correctly. (You can see it here: http://paste.lisp.org/display/8765). I am trying to download the file 'libdvdcss2'   but  apt-get tells me that file is no where in the repos. I am using Ubunutu 5.04 64 bit04:03
ZoohouseCan it be that theres no libdvdcss2  package for 64bit?04:03
thoreauputicfabbione:  cat /proc/meminfo04:04
gentoonZoohouse, i had so many probs with the 64bit Ubunti i eneded up switching to the 386 one04:04
thoreauputicoops04:04
thoreauputicfabs cat /proc/meminfo04:04
thenukeZoohouse: naah, you dont have the correct repos04:05
thoreauputicfabbione: you don't need the sudo, btw04:05
thenukehttp://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories04:05
thoreauputicarghhh04:05
Zoohousegentoon: I too have had alot of troubles with 64... if crashed into about 3 packages that are broken04:05
thenukeZoohouse: always check ubuntuguide first04:05
thoreauputicfabs: you don't need the sudo, btw04:05
thoreauputicsorry fabbione04:05
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gentoonno he did it right04:05
Zoohousethenuke: I took the repos stright off ubuntuguid.org04:05
gentoonsame thing happened to me04:05
Zoohousethenuke: I even copy and pasted their example04:06
fabsthoreauputic, eheh thanks a lot it works great :) I see u having trouble typing there :)04:06
gentoonits cause he is using 64bit04:06
dos000noddaba, this is for warty tho .. you woul think hoary would have it.04:06
IcemanV9_hmm. mplayer is broken. :/04:06
thoreauputicfabs: the trouble is your nick with tab complete - completing to the other nick :)04:06
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gentoonthoreauputic, ya know why i keep having to make new users cause sometimes when i goto login it gives me some error about Xauthority??04:06
fabsthoreauputic, ahah yes I see, probably we both are Italian too :P04:07
noddabados000, it worked for me in Hoary too.  but i agree, should be smoother than that04:07
ZoohouseCan I compile libdvdcss2  form somwhere atleast?04:07
thoreauputicgentoon: a guess would be that you ran something as root, and you .xauthority file changed04:07
Guerinhah04:07
gentoonso i can chmod the file back?04:07
thoreauputicgentoon: deleting ~/.xauthority fixes it04:08
Guerinhoardy worked perfectly where warty just wouldn't do X04:08
thoreauputicgentoon: and you shouldn't run X apps as root anyway04:08
gentoonjust delete it?04:08
Guerinthat's a bonus, I suppose04:08
_kevinbeep-media player is awsome... i was using xmms for the longest time i don't know why you people failed to mention this player when i asked about a good mp3 player winamp alternative when i first installed ubuntu04:08
novaflarei got a weird isue here04:08
novaflareback on horay btw04:08
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novaflarebut i cant change screen res now04:08
gentoonthoreauputic, so when i wanna edit files as root, i have to use CMI editors like vim or nano?04:08
thoreauputicgentoon: yes, it will regenerate04:08
Fikrann_kevin, then you might not want to try amaroK04:08
poningruuse gnomebaker04:09
thoreauputicgentoon: use for eaxample, "gksudo gdit"04:09
novaflareit tells me the xserver doesnt support xrandr04:09
novaflareyet i know this isnt the case as ive done it before04:09
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thoreauputic*gksudo gedit04:09
gentoonthoreauputic, if i do sudo gedit it says cant open display04:09
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thoreauputicgentoon:  ls -l ~/.xauthority ssays what?04:10
gentoonwell im logged in as diff user now04:10
_kevinamarok is even better?>04:10
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gentoonwant me to ls -l /home/brokenuser/.xauthority ?04:10
thoreauputicgentoon: actually it's .Xauthority, sorry04:11
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thoreauputicgentoon: yes, what does ls -l .Xauthority return ? (uppecase X)04:11
gentoonso if i use gksudo and run things as root that way, it won't break my .Xauthority?04:11
novaflarehell with it ill hard wire it to chossen res04:11
thoreauputicgentoon: correct04:12
gentoonok04:12
gentooncool04:12
gentooncan i make a script on my desktop that will run konquerer as root using gksudo?04:12
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thoreauputicgentoon: you can return your .Xauthority to sanity with ` sudo chown <youruser> .Xauthority` or just delete it with `sudo rm .Xauthority`04:13
IcemanV9_novaflare: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto04:13
thoreauputicand login again, of course04:13
gentoonyea i got that04:13
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REdsu can delete it04:13
spanglesontoastanyone know where the audio config file is for americas army?04:14
REdsi remove mine when i get issues thoreauputic , X recreates it04:14
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thoreauputicREds: yes, i suggested that as well04:14
gentoon'but im trying to make an easy way to start a file manager using gksudo instead of typing it everytim04:14
thoreauputicgentoon: make a launcher then04:14
REdsyah04:14
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gentoonthoreauputic, I can make a launcher for running things as root?04:16
gentoonhow?04:16
thoreauputicgentoon: just make the command e.g. ` gksudo koqueror `04:16
thoreauputic*konqueror04:16
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gentoonoh04:16
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kimowhy does intalling OOo2 require gcc-4base !! I dont want gcc4 coz it's too unstable (probably)04:17
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thoreauputicgentoon: or kdesu in KDE from memory04:17
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hussamI have this problem. I can't get sound from tvtime. can somebody help?04:17
occy:(04:17
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occybox keeps locking up on me.04:17
Nasokhow can i connect in ubuntu with a connection of ppp04:17
occythis is beyond frustrating.04:17
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occyWindowsXP never locked up on this hardware.04:17
occywhich was amazing in and of itself.04:17
_kevinamarok is kde04:18
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thoreauputicgentoon: you know how to make a launcher, right?04:18
kimoKDE in ubuntu is waaaay faster than suse. KUDOS to all ubuntu devs :)04:18
kimohussam, do u have sound elsewhere04:18
thoreauputicNasok: I already told you how...04:19
gentoonthoreauputic, That worked04:19
gentooncool04:19
Nasokdidnt work04:19
gentoonMan im actually getting this install configured for my liking04:19
hussamkimo: yes it works elsewhere.04:19
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kimohussam, does tvtime has a option to configure which sound driver to use ? arts, alsa ...04:20
sproingiei guess ubuntu survives my fickle distribution vicissitudes04:20
thoreauputicNasok: then either 1) you made an error or 2) your modem wasn't found or is unsupported04:20
sproingiesay that 10 times fast04:20
kimowhy does intalling OOo2 require gcc-4base !! I dont want gcc4 coz it's too unstable (probably)04:20
thoreauputicNasok: so which is it?04:20
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sproingiei could do it myself, but that's what i use packages for04:21
Nasoktell me again il try.... and my resolution in ubuntu is not like in the XP04:21
gentoonthoreauputic, thanks man04:21
thoreauputicNasok: run `sudo pppconfig`, answer the questions and connect with the `pon` command04:22
thoreauputicgentoon: you're welcome :)04:22
Nasokok ill try04:22
hussamkimo: i don't know but even if I connect tv card directly to speakers, I get no sound. It used to work on fedora before I switched distros.04:22
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thoreauputicNasok: is your modem an external hardware modem?04:22
NasokThanks04:22
adarani have a problem with evolution that is distro unrelated: version 2.0 and above do not work with my companies exchange server04:22
kimohussam, does it work currently in other OS ?04:23
adarannow here's my real problem: i want to install evolution 1.4 - however, i can't find it in  my repositories04:23
gentoonthoreauputic, one more thing is there an app, so i can have some things start up with gnome?04:23
adaran(using apt-cache search evolution) - is it still in the official repositories (evolution-1.4 is what i'm looking for)04:23
herpeswhy does everyone expect linux to function and work exactly the same as windows?04:23
gentoonI dont04:23
gentoonI know it works better, with a lil configuration04:24
thoreauputicgentoon: yes, but usually if you save your session whatever was running will start up automatically next time you log in04:24
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kimohussam, try opening a mixer program (alsamixer, kamix, ...) and changing some volumes04:24
adarangentoon, there's bound to be a multitude of ways for that, try session management or .gnomerc or something04:24
hussamkimo: yes, I'm multi booting between, fedora, windows, and kubutnu. It worls on fedora and windows.04:24
adarancan anyone help me obtain evolution-1.4 packages?04:25
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hussamkimo: Line in is on in kmix04:25
gentooncan you make xchat auto-identify?04:25
thoreauputicadaran: evo 2 is pretty tightly integrated with gnome 2.10, I'd say04:25
kimohussam, make sure it is not MUTED. Also, play with other volumes. Sometimes they affect each other ...04:25
sproingiei used to triple boot, freebsd, debian, windows.  had hardware that would fail to work in bsd if i booted debian first, but not windows04:25
thoreauputicadaran: you may be out of luck04:26
sproingielet's hear it for sticky initialization04:26
adaranthoreauputic, well yes, but it's broken, that's why i need 1.404:26
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fabsGuys, what's this prob with Synaptic: Details: Failed to fork (Cannot allocate memory) ?????04:26
thoreauputicadaran: I understand04:26
adaranthoreauputic, ah, damnit, it looks like evolution and gnome are going down the drain =/04:26
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sproingiefabs: means something ate all your RAM.  check top and see04:26
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adaranthenostradamus, thanks though. gnome 2.10 is default for breezy though isn't it?04:26
thoreauputicadaran: I tend to agree, sadly - I use fluxbox or xfce4 mostly04:26
adaranthoreauputic, well i usually get flamed when i say i use kde =)04:27
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sproingieadaran: you won't on #kubuntu04:27
thoreauputicadaran: I expect breezy will use the next version04:27
Guerinthoreauputic: thanks; warty->hoary did indeed work flawlessly04:27
fabssproinge, oh damn what can be??04:27
thoreauputicGuerin: :)04:27
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hussamkimo: i already did that. I also have added saa7134 cardnumber=2 to etc/modules  so I do get picture but no sound.04:27
Snake-Oilkubuntu?04:27
sproingieSnake-Oil: ubuntu using kde instead of gnome04:28
fabssproingie, oh what can be Damn, I cannot open anything04:28
Snake-Oilgbuntu?04:28
gentoonthoreauputic, what xorg driver ya use?04:28
adaranthoreauputic, well, what's the current version? i have to admit, i haven't been a 100% - i don't use ubuntu, but debian rather, but i'm helping a colleague out - he's having the same problems i have, they are ubuntu related, and i just need ubuntu/apt to install 1.404:28
Snake-Oilxfbuntu?04:28
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keffook, what could've happend to my system? i cant paly anything, system is slow etc.. wtf, virus? ;p04:28
keffomy firefox screws up04:28
sproingiefabs: oh yeah, that does happen.  welcome to out of memory conditions.  normally the kernel starts killing stuff off, but it looks like it's not04:28
thoreauputicgentoon: I have no idea - it works - I have an sis crap onboard card04:28
Snake-Oilkeffo:  ???04:28
adaranthoreauputic, though, i might add, i'm a candidate for ubuntu if debian doesn't drop some archs and hurry up with sarge =)04:28
keffogdesklets doesnt start anymore either..04:29
fabssproingie, oh it worries me, I just put a 512MB stick inside but it never happened with the 256 b4!!04:29
George^Dekai dont have any evo contacts support in gaim and vice versa04:29
keffoeverythings been working 110% in months04:29
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sproingiefabs: unless you know some existing pid's to use the kill builtin, you're probably out of luck, and will have to reboot04:29
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refuze2loozehow can i print a webpage as a PDF file?04:29
gentoonANyone got Ubuntu working with an all in wonder for TV?04:29
adaranrefuze2looze, print to file (will give you a ps file). then use ps2pdf04:29
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thoreauputicadaran: I don't know enough to help with evo 1.4.*, sorry04:29
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thoreauputicadaran: maybe someone else will know - tried the mailing list?04:30
Snake-Oilkeffo:  that's too bad... sigh04:30
adaranwell i guess it's only a package repository issue. is there no  repository carrying 1.4 packages? or rather: will it hurt to use debian ones?04:30
sproingiefabs: you can try quitting some apps that are open, but if it's a background process doing it, you might have to wait for the kernel OOM killer to get to it ... if it does04:31
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thoreauputicadaran: using debian repos is deprecated ....04:31
fabssproingie, oh hell, well will reboot the Linuxbox then, thanks 4 ur help :)04:31
adaranthoreauputic, so it's compiling from source for 1.4? :P04:31
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Snake-Oilfabs: why?04:31
refuze2loozeadaran: thanks04:31
adaranthoreauputic, i wouldn't mind having both installed04:31
thoreauputicadaran: I guess you could try it as a test and see if it breaks?04:31
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fabsSnake-Oil, why what?04:32
Snake-Oilfabs: reboot?04:32
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Th0masBHello04:32
adaranthoreauputic, ah well it's not that important i guess04:32
fabsSnake-Oil, cos I cannot run any process it keeps saying Failed to Fork04:32
refuze2loozeadaran: jeez, it converted it all screwed up04:32
Th0masBI need some help04:32
Snake-Oilfabs: "reboot" is a patent of M$04:32
Th0masBJust installes Ubuntu now04:33
adaranrefuze2looze, check with ghostview if the ps file is allright04:33
fabsSnake-Oil, :) I know but what to do then?? I cannot open anything04:33
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Th0masBbut how can i find my hardisk'04:33
refuze2loozeadaran: yeah the ps is fine04:33
adaranrefuze2looze, then try ps2pdf1X04:33
Snake-Oilfabs: in X?04:33
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adaranrefuze2looze, those are for different pdf versions.04:33
adaranrefuze2looze, maybe it converted to pdf15 and your pdf viewer can't handle that04:33
fabsSnake-Oil, well I am using Gnome in Ubuntu, well X I think04:33
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Snake-Oilfabs: ctrl-alt-[backspace] 04:34
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Snake-Oilfabs: kill X04:34
adaranrefuze2looze, or try ps2pdf14 rather04:34
fabsand then what to do? re-login?04:34
Snake-Oilmmm04:34
Th0masBanyone that help me?04:34
kimohow can I make pdf to eps04:34
fabsSnake-Oil, oh and then what? Re-login?04:34
Snake-Oilyes04:34
refuze2loozeadaran: those all point to the file ps2pdfwr04:34
Snake-Oilif you want04:35
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fabsSnake-Oil, :) oh ok see u in bit then04:35
Nasoki tried to do what you told me it didnt work04:35
adaranrefuze2looze, the program decides which level to use depending on with which name it was calle04:35
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refuze2loozeadaran: well, they all yield the same results =/04:35
Snake-Oilfabs: relogin != reboot @@04:35
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pedlarctrl-alt-backspace :-p04:36
adaranrefuze2looze, hmm not sure then, rarely had problems with that04:36
Snake-Oil?04:36
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adarantry putting it through ps2ps first04:37
Nasoksome know how to connect PPP internet in Ubuntu04:37
adaranrefuze2looze, and make sure you're not using GPL ghostscript04:37
adaranrefuze2looze, but i can't help you there04:37
kimoNasok, wvdial04:37
williamsepale desde venezuela04:37
NasokWhat?04:37
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Th0masBHow do i get the internet to work with Ubuntu?04:37
Snake-Oilwhat language it is04:37
kimoNasok, sudo wvdial /etc/wvdial.conf , then edit the file, then sudo wvdial to actually connect04:38
redboardo u have cable or DSL th0mas?04:38
Nasoki just dont know how to connect PPP dial up in Ubuntu04:38
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redboarI'd like to know how to do dialup since I plan on installing Ubuntu on other PCs04:39
WhiteDovehi guys04:39
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kimoredboar, sudo wvdial /etc/wvdial.conf , then edit the file, then sudo wvdial to actually connect04:39
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Nasokhow can i connect internet in ubuntu04:39
Nasokmy dial up is PPP04:40
redboarcool04:40
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dtygelHi all!04:40
redboarI wish Juno would allow Linux access04:40
WhiteDoveSome pointed me to a page earlier about wireles network cards, it also had a link about how to do it in SuSe (my sister is on this) could someone help me find it again please04:40
housetierNasok the package pppoeconfig should help you setting it all up04:40
lampshade#ubuntu, I just would like you to know, you are all dorks.04:40
dtygelvideo resolution: sometimes I turn on the computer and it comes in 640x800px...04:40
lampshadeNasok: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DialupModemHowto  I don't have dialup, but does that help?04:40
dtygelhow can I fix it?04:40
redboarawww04:40
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jeroen_WhiteDove, haven't you logged it?04:41
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WhiteDovelogged :s04:41
dtygelit started after I upgraded to hoary04:41
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peaceyall`hi04:41
bob2lampshade: www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct04:41
fabsHello04:41
redboarLampshade it's better toi be a dork than nerdy04:41
peaceyall`i get "On-line, no system battery" when i type apm in terminal , whats wrong?04:41
jeroen_WhiteDove, or, if you browsed the website with your browser, it is in your history04:41
redboarsorry bob204:41
WhiteDoveoh yeah, Im an idito thanks jeroen04:41
bob2peaceyall`: does your machine support apm?04:42
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jeroen_WhiteDove, if you use firefox, press control and H together04:42
kimopeaceyall`, try acpi04:42
peaceyall`bob2 ya04:42
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WhiteDoveoops, I cleared the history04:42
fabsGuys, ho to create a swap part in ubuntu? Does it do automacally?04:42
bob2peaceyall`: you're sure? you've loaded the apm module and everything?04:42
bob2fabs: it's done during the install...04:42
peaceyall`kimo on acpi the battery life is only 1 hour and 35 mins , so i want to change to apm04:42
peaceyall`bob2 yes i did04:42
jeroen_WhiteDove, well, ask if someone logged it then, or find the person who gave you the link04:43
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peaceyall`and i even put apm=on and acpi=off in boot parameters04:43
WhiteDoveI think it was on my laptop actually, I'll check04:43
WhiteDovethanks04:43
fabsbob2, oh thank but why on my systme monitor it says Used Swap        0bytes      of         0bytes        nan%04:43
bob2fabs: if you did a manual partition during install, you were expected to make swap if you wanted it04:44
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kimohow can I stop postfix from starting with every boot04:44
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bob2kimo: sudo rm /etc/rc2.d/S*postfix04:44
dtygelhey all: some hint about screen resolution issue?04:44
jeroen_fabs, do you have a swap partition?04:44
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fabsbob2, ohh sugar, is there a way to do it now?04:44
bob2fabs: do you have unpartitioned space on your disk?04:45
IcemanV9_dtygel:  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto04:45
kimobob2, I noticed it defaults to runlevel 2, but I couldnt beleive it :)04:45
bob2kimo: this isn't redhat04:45
fabsjeroen_, hmmm I don't think so04:45
redboarProps to ubuntu I wouldn't be running Linux if it wasn't for this distro04:45
fabsbob2, I think I need to make a partition out of the main one04:45
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tswfabs: what does "free -m" tell you?04:45
bob2fabs: well, you can just as easily make a swap file04:46
fabsjeroen_, it says 0bytes of 0bytes nan%   on my System Monitor04:46
gentoonIs a 4GB swap file big enough?04:46
vyaq pucingggggggggggg04:46
jeroen_fabs, you could use something like gparted to shrink your partition and a swap one04:46
thoreauputicgentoon: way too big04:46
bob2gentoon: 4GB is ridiculous04:46
IcemanV9_gentoon: overkill :)04:46
bob2fabs: you don't need to make a partition for it04:46
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fabstsw: it shows the RAM amount04:46
fabsbob2, yes so I just make a swap straight away then?04:47
redboarbob2:  why not?04:47
bob2fabs: you can make a file on disk that is used for swap, yes04:47
fabsjeroen_, yes, I was think of qparted actually thx04:47
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tswit should display swap also even though it doesnt exist04:47
bob2redboar: why not what?04:47
fabsbob2, oh how?04:47
redboarnot make a swap partition04:47
bob2redboar: you can use a swap file04:48
redboarno kidding04:48
redboarhow04:48
fabsyes how?04:48
bob2fabs: dd if=/dev/zero of=/swap count=1024M04:48
bob2fabs: er, with sudo04:48
bob2assuming I got the dd arguments right04:48
redboarcount= is size i take it04:48
fabsehhe I see, so 1Gig of Swap should be enough I expect?04:49
jeroen_fabs, rule of thumb: your RAM*2 = swap04:49
dtygelIceman, thanks! I'll check it!04:49
fabsbob2, well 1gig, I will try to do it now then04:49
kimofabs, may be swap = ram these days (not *2)04:49
fabsjeroen_, oh cool :)04:49
fabskimo, eheh I see04:49
bob2well04:49
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bob2it's better to just estimate how much "ram" ytou'll ever need04:50
bob2and create swap unti lyou have that amount04:50
bob2the x2 rule is very out of date04:50
fabsbob2, count is not recognized it says04:50
iani cannot write with my cd writer. using cdrecord.. Error trying to open /dev/hdd exclusively (Device or resource busy)... retrying in 1 second.04:50
redboarI have 512MB RAM and same swap part. size and I rarely use even a third of swap04:50
ianwhat wrong withthis?04:50
bob2ian: lsof | grep hdd04:51
fabsbob2, oh no silly me I forgot the =04:51
bob2ian: also, you can't use it while it's mounted04:51
gentoonAnyone in here have TV-in working for an all in wonder?04:51
ianbob2: when i lsof there is no output..04:51
ianbob2: what will i do? :(04:52
gentoonwhats the command to start nautilus in "explore" mode?04:52
bob2"explore mode"?04:52
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bob2ian: are you running cdrecord as root?04:52
ianbob2: using sudo04:52
gentoonwhere it doesnt open anew window everytime ya click something and it shows a tree on the right04:52
bob2gentoon: does that exist?04:52
gentoonyea04:53
ianbob2: this is my command.. sudo cdrecord dev=/dev/hdd speed=12 -v -eject -multi /home/ian/Desktop/gnomebaker.iso04:53
gentoonit does04:53
gentoonthoreauputic, ya there?04:53
gentoonthoreauputic, ya know what im talkin about?04:53
jeroen_bob2, yes it exists, I use it04:53
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jeroen_And it kicks ass :)04:53
thoreauputicgentoon: choose "browser mode" in edit/ prefs04:53
rob_ltgentoon: nautilus --browser04:53
gentoonthx rob_lt that worked04:54
gentoonwhen writing a script what must the first line allways be?04:54
bob2#!/bin/sh, for shell scripts04:54
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gentooncool thx04:54
rob_ltgentoon: depends what type of script04:54
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ianbob2: what do you think is the problem? :(04:54
gentoonlike a script to launch a browser04:54
anirz_hello peple04:54
bob2ian: fuser -v /dev/hdd prints what?04:55
jeroen_anirz_, just ask :)04:55
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thoreauputicgentoon: you can make browser mode permanent in the edit/prefs/behaviour tab of nautilus04:55
anirz_jeroen_,  i cant access the hard disk drives which are in FAT and NTFS04:55
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jeroen_anirz_, there you go: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions04:56
ianbob2: nothing prints..is this abnormal?04:56
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redboaranirz: NTFS will be read only though04:56
ianbob2: ian@ubuntu:~$ sudo fuser -v /dev/hdd04:56
jeroen_anirz_, read the whole thing04:56
ianian@ubuntu:~$04:56
anirz_jeroen_,  thanks a lot indeed04:57
bobpian -- thanks for the cdrom burner command04:57
ianbob2: what do you mean?04:57
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gentoonthoreauputic, i dont see "browser mode" in any of the tabs04:57
thoreauputicgentoon: in nautilus, edit >> preferences >> beahaviour "always open as browser" or somthing like that04:58
leo_mxi have a problem with the workspace switcher...it used to work fine...but sometime i tried to ass 2 of them and it displayed me some error...so i deleted the extra workspace switcher...but now..everytime i try to edit the properties of the workspace switcher i get this problem...now i only have 1 desktop in the workspace switcher04:58
leo_mxAn error occurred while loading or saving configuration information for wnck-applet. Some of your configuration settings may not work properly.04:58
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ianbob2: still there?04:59
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redboarwill Ubuntu install OK on a SATA drive?05:00
bob2ian: no idea what the problem is, try asking on the user list05:00
dcravenOh man I hate making complicated dialogs...05:00
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bob2redboar: yes, unless it's an exceedinly new and/or flakey chipset05:00
jeroen_dcraven, don't. Make them easy05:00
ianbob2: user list? where is that? :(05:00
ianim new..05:00
redboarIt's a Via KT60005:00
dcravenjeroen_: haha.. Good one. I can't design a dialog for crap.05:00
jeroen_dcraven, what's it for?05:01
redboarI know with XP I need a manufacturer driver to begin the install :(05:01
bob2ian: http://lists.ubuntu.com/05:01
jeroen_redboar, I don't think it's the case with Ubuntu05:01
dcravenjeroen_: Inserting an image into a wiki. Location, position, size.05:01
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redboarcool05:02
sproingieredboar: one day XP will be ready for the desktop ;)05:02
redboargotta run, ttyl05:02
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redboarLOL well ubuntu is bringing Linux muxh closer05:02
redboarttyl05:02
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sproingieamd64, sata, xfs.  zoom zoom05:02
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van_hm...what could be the reason of firefox running so slow?05:03
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dcravenjeroen_: This is what I have now --> http://arker.homelinux.org/~dcraven/insert-image-dialog.png05:04
dcravenjeroen_: Needs some HIG lovin'. :)05:04
jeroen_dcraven, I like it.05:04
dcravenjeroen_: Thanks. It'll do until someone gets some ideas :)05:05
gentoonthoreauputic, I can't make a launcher open konqurer to a specific location?05:05
jeroen_dcraven, will it actually resize the image or just put widht="" and height="" ?05:05
Burgundaviadcraven, it may be exactly hig, but it looks good05:05
dcravenjeroen_: Option #2.05:05
Burgundaviadcraven, which wiki?05:05
dcravenBurgundavia: Thanks.05:06
dcravenBurgundavia: It's for Newton.05:06
Burgundaviadcraven, ah05:06
Burgundaviadcraven, why does newton not have wysiwyg image stuff?05:06
jeroen_dcraven, might need to tell people that, and image location can also be edited at the wiki05:06
thoreauputicgentoon: sure you can  - " konqueror /home/gentoon " or whatever05:06
dcravenBurgundavia: I don't know what you mean. It's like any other wiki.05:06
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Burgundaviadcraven, newton if for fast note taking on the desktop no?05:07
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dcravenjeroen_: True.05:07
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gentoonthoreauputic, i tried that and it said couldnt find dir /home/user /dir/i/specified05:07
dcravenBurgundavia: Well yeah.05:07
jeroen_dcraven, you might like to get rid of these, and just add a "All settings can manually be edited later" at the top05:07
thoreauputicgentoon: "works for me " (tm)05:07
Burgundaviadcraven, then it might be easier to just to have drag and drag image stuff05:08
thoreauputicgentoon: try something like " konqueror /usr/ "05:08
sproingiewhy tell people in a wizard that all settings can be edited later?  it's superfluous information05:08
thoreauputicsproingie: reassurance05:08
sproingiereassurance comes from an app that works well, not promises05:09
bob2sproingie: file a bug!05:09
sproingiethe wizard should do what the wizard does, that's all05:09
thoreauputicsproingie: for new users. reassurance is a good thing  :)05:09
dcravenBurgundavia: But it's an embedded gecko widget. I don't think you can drag an image onto it. It would be like dragging an image to Firefox. I could, however, pop up this dialog when an image is dragged to the window, with the location part already filled in.05:09
sproingiethoreauputic: you could put it in a help setting or if you really want to go wizard-style, a splash pane.  but it doesnt belong in a dialog05:10
thoreauputicsproingie: whatever - file a bug, as bob2  says...05:10
dcravenjeroen_: I'm gonna change those "This can be changed.." bits to something more specific, or get rid of them altogether like you suggest.05:10
bob2sproingie: seriously, if you think it can be better, file a bug!05:10
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sproingieclutter == bad05:10
van_em...what do you guys use for IRC? i'd like to change xchat to something else, as i don't like it very much..05:11
tswvan_: irssi05:11
bob2sproingie: er, if you want it fixed, you need to file a bug05:11
sproingievan: i use chatzilla05:11
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jeroen_dcraven, might be cool to have more information on the manual editing *somewhere* preferably with a link in the wizard05:11
leo_mxsomebody know why i get this error when trying to edit the workspace switcher preferences?::: Failed: Failed: Schema `/schemas/apps/workspace_switcher_applet/prefs/display_all_workspaces' specified for `/apps/panel/applets/applet_16/prefs/display_all_workspaces' stores a non-schema value05:11
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van_tsw,  is there a way to see what channels are you in, in irssi...besides those Act: 1,2 etc?05:12
thoreauputicvan_: there's konversation for KDE as well (I hate it, but you might not...)05:12
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sproingiekonversation is krashy05:12
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tswvan_: I bet there is, dont know it though :)05:12
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thoreauputicvan_: /set window05:12
sproingiethere's kopete if you like really unorthodox interfaces05:12
sproingietho it can be made to look like xchat05:12
thoreauputicvan_: you can split the window05:12
sugoruyocan someone help me with some problem with the hoary dvd?05:13
sugoruyoit won't boot05:13
plastiqbye05:13
dcravenjeroen_: Possibly. Although from the context in which this dialog is opened, I think it might be somewhat obvious. Maybe a 'Help' button or a tooltip in the dialog.05:13
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dcravensproingie: I'll take your suggestion into consideration, thanks.05:14
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seliniumhi thoreauputic. How is it going?05:14
dcravenAnyway, this is rather off topic... I do appreciate the input though. Thanks guys.05:14
thoreauputicselinium: hi :) Not bad05:14
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sugoruyocan someone tell me how to check my dvd?05:15
jeroen_sugoruyo, you can check the ISO file of the DVD with md5sums05:15
sugoruyoa.how do i do that?05:16
sugoruyob.can it be done on m$ windoze?05:16
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gentoonthoreauputic, is there a way to add inbedded objects into my desktop? like apps?05:16
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sugoruyocos' i got no linux installed... and ubuntu won't start05:16
seliniumthoreauputic: Had a bit of a sh**ter today! PC died, thought I had lost all my work. Bought a new 160Gb drive and it still didn't fix it. Bought a 3.50 battery for the bios and everything works! Still I've got a new drive now!05:16
jeroen_sugoruyo, yes it can be done with Windows, but you'll need to install some app05:16
thoreauputicgentoon: haha - I haven't a clue, sorry05:16
sugoruyothat's no problem05:17
sugoruyocan u tell me what app or do i have to search for it?05:17
thoreauputicgentoon: I use fluxbox mostly, and type commands in terminals a lot05:17
dbrodieCan anybody point me to a crash course in building deb's from source? I have a couple of debs that are unstable compatible and I want to rebuild them for my ubuntu, how would I do that?05:17
thoreauputicselinium: nice big new drive , too :)05:18
lotusleafdbrodie, use checkinstall05:18
jeroen_sugoruyo, This might explain it to you: http://h3knix.open-element.net/docs/md5.php you'll also need the md5sum of the .iso image (probably found at the same place you downloaded the dvd image)05:18
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sugoruyowell the image is only available through BT but i guess the sum should be where i got the torrent file05:19
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seliniumthoreauputic: Indeed, now all I have to do is put it in the machine! If I install Ubuntu onto the new drive, will I be able to slave the 30Gb Ubuntu drive to copy the info over?05:19
dbrodielotusleaf: why? I have the deb 'sources' and I don't want to lose the dependencies etc... I know it is something with the dpkg-buildpackage  but I havn't been able to find good documentation on goolge05:19
engieHi. I've installed apache2 on ubuntu hoary, with the libapache2-mod-php4 package, but when I access a .php file through the server apache lets me download it instead of executing it. How do I tell it to execute the file? The file is chmod 755.05:20
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lotusleafdbrodie, linux documentation project page?05:20
thoreauputicselinium: I don't know much about hardware, sorry05:20
seliniumthoreauputic: np :)05:20
thoreauputicselinium: I don't see why not, though05:20
lotusleafdbrodie, I'm just guessing, please take my suggestions with a grain of salt.05:21
seliniumengie: there is a walk through on www.ubuntuguide.org that shows how to set up the apache,php,mysql servers05:22
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seliniumengie: If you want to serve up to the net, install firestarter and open port 80 as well!05:22
aliumalikTheWeed: hey05:23
engieselinium: I followed it, but still no joy05:23
engieI'm pretty sure I have everything installed05:23
lotusleafdbrodie, checkinstall isn't an option for you? http://www.falkotimme.com/howtos/checkinstall/index.php05:23
TheWeedhey back :P05:23
engieAm not interested in sharing with the net for now :D05:23
engieThis is just a staging server05:23
seliniumengie: the files are in the www directory?05:24
aliumalikcan I get instructions on how to compile gaim? a tutorial maybe?05:24
bob2aliumalik: what's wrong with the version in ubuntu?05:24
aliumalikbob2: its old05:24
jeroen_bob2, it's not the latest05:24
seliniumengie: have you install php4? if not the patch cant connect anything?05:24
bob2aliumalik: so?05:25
engieselinium: The files are in /var/www with 755 permissions. php4 is installed05:25
aliumalikbob2: I need 1.3 is there any place with a package. Will the debian ones work?05:25
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bob2aliumalik: "need", why?05:25
dbrodielotusleaf: thanks, but I prefer doing it the 'official' way, since I want it to support proper dependencies (checkinstall dosn't) and other such package meta info that checkinstall dosn't have.05:26
aliumalikbob2: need to install for a friend he needs the latest version05:26
seliniumengie: have yuo restarted apache since applying the MOds?05:26
bob2aliumalik: *why*?05:26
engieselinium: Many times :p05:26
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seliniumengie: ?????05:26
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lotusleafdbrodie, yw, sorry I couldn't help more. Thanks for the detail, have you tried posting this question to the ubuntuforums?05:26
aliumalikbob2: I am afraid I cant answer that :P...I use kopete :P05:26
dbrodielotusleaf: nope, not yet, though it will be my next step. I was hopping to get a quick answer (laziness :P )05:27
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lotusleafdbrodie, =)05:28
seliniumengie: I can't see why then! are you sure you have installed php4 as well as apache2-mod-php4?05:28
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engieselinium: Ahh, joy - I removed libapache2-mod-php4, did a dpkg -P to purge it then installed it again. The configs must have got screwed up somehow05:28
engieThanks :D05:29
lotusleafWhat service would be causing my hd light to flicker once every other second even when the system is idle?05:29
seliniumengie: np05:29
lotusleafI eliminated this hd flicker in SUSE by disabling hardware detection when I wasn't using any hotswap usb devices so it may be a similar issue in ubuntu?05:30
nutorianWhat is a website I can download Wine from?05:31
lotusleafnutorian, check winehq.com and click on download then ubuntu05:31
nutorianAlright thank you05:32
bluefoxicyoh god05:32
bluefoxicyyou can't add extensions to hoary firefox!05:32
cyphasewine is already packaged for ubuntu05:32
cyphasebluefoxicy, yes you can05:32
lotusleafnutorian, yw05:32
bluefoxicyCyborg_ninja20:  wanna bet?05:32
bluefoxicyerr05:32
bluefoxicycyphase:  wanna bet?05:32
cyphaseyes05:32
cyphaselol05:32
bluefoxicycyphase:  tools -> extensions -> get more extensions05:32
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cyphaseoh, i c05:33
cyphaselol05:33
bluefoxicycyphase:  also try addons.mozilla.org05:33
lotusleafcyphase, but he asked for a website ;p05:33
cyphasefake the user-agent05:33
cyphasei thought you meant there was something wrong with haory firefox itself05:33
bluefoxicyuh?05:33
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cyphaseno05:33
cyphaseget the user-agent extension05:34
cyphasefrom a third-party site05:34
bluefoxicyuh05:34
bluefoxicynot helping?05:34
bluefoxicyWHAT site?05:34
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cyphasedo a search05:35
cyphasesearch for "firefox user agent"05:35
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geetergodCan someone help me to get my xine working again?05:38
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MichaelDiederichshort question: Is it possible or "not stupid" to use the packages from dotdeb.org?05:38
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MichaelDiederichi want to play with php5 and don't compile it on my own05:39
geetergodanyone help me get my xine working again?05:39
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novanow if i can remember how to install a .deb and fcxe ill be happy lol05:40
novacause i realy dont like gnome all that well heh05:40
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geetergodWhen i go to use a dvd it says 'The source cant be read'.. 'Maybe you dont have enough rights for this, or source doesnt contain data (e.g. not disc in drive). (/dev/cdrom)'05:40
bigfootHello, I followed the instructions on ubuntuguide of how to get Java working in Firefox, but I still can't get it to work. In firefox, i  get a message saying "Click here to install missing plugin."   What is wrong?05:41
mwh_Hi, im running hoary and I have a problem with inkscape .. I cant seem to be able to save to other formats than svg05:41
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mwh_anyone hit this before?05:41
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geetergodand another xine error message says 'There is no input plugin available to handle 'dvd:/' Maybe MRL syntax is wrong or file/stream source doesnt exist'05:41
MichaelDiederichbigfoot: i done all the instructions and it works here05:41
geetergodanyone help me?05:42
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bigfootcan anybody please help me get the Java Plugin worknig with Firefox, please?05:42
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geetergodbigfoot: i had to do that last week, what a pain in the ass i had.05:43
thoreauputicbigfoot: look in ~/.mozilla/plugins and see if you have the plugins linked there05:43
geetergodbut im new so it was hard05:43
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geetergodnow i cant get my xine working05:44
novawhat command to install a .deb?05:44
novai freaking lost my notes05:44
novaand how to get fxce installed05:44
MichaelDiederichnova: dpkg -i name.deb05:44
dbrodienova: sudo dpkg -i05:44
novaty05:44
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thoreauputicnova: xfce4 is in the universe repo : sudo apt-get install xfce405:45
geetergodcan someone help me to get my dvd player working again?05:45
geetergodi dont think its just xine not working05:45
bigfootthoreauputic, i checked that folder and all that's there are: flashplayer.xpt and libflashplayer.so.05:45
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thoreauputicbigfoot: I think you need libjavaplugin_oji.so there as a symlink to the plugin05:46
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bigfootthoreauputic, how exactly can i accomplish that?05:47
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thoreauputicbigfoot: here it's linked with /usr/java/jre1.5.0_01/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so05:47
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geetergodthoreauputic: can you help with my dvd player when you're done with bigfoot?05:47
bigfootthoreauputic, how do i do the symlink?05:48
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thoreauputicbigfoot: sudo ln -sf /usr/java/jre1.5.0_01/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /home/bigfoot/.mozilla/plugins05:48
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alperhi all05:48
alperi am new to ubuntu05:48
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alperand and need a bit of help05:48
emacse1I used make-jpkg to make Sun Java, but I can't seem to find the Mozilla plugins05:48
thoreauputicbigfoot: assuming your paths are the same - and of course your user name05:48
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alperanyone avaible for helping a new bebie05:49
emacse1alper: just ask your question05:49
thoreauputicbigfoot: actually that syntax may not be quite right...05:49
bigfootthoreauputic, i ran that sudo command, changing my userid... and i didn't get any error message. does this mean it worked?05:49
alperi use compaq presario x1000 laptop... everything seems to work fine... however the cursor(arrow showing right) doesnt works... how would i fix that05:50
thoreauputicnot sure if a trailing slash is needed or whatever05:50
thoreauputicbigfoot: probably - try it out05:50
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bigfootthoreauputic, right. will do so.05:50
thoreauputicbigfoot: I just did that more or less off the top of my head so it may be wrong05:50
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novabrb05:51
bigfootthoreauputic, the webpage still has a box with the green puzzle piece and a message to "Click here to download plugin." i guess that command didn't work...05:52
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thoreauputicbigfoot: check if anything new has appeared in .mozilla/plugins - if not then I got it wrong, sorry05:53
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thoreauputicbigfoot: you can do symlinking graphically in nautilus I think - but I don't know the procedure05:53
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geetergodcan anyone help me with my xine/dvd player?05:54
bigfootthoreauputic, i see libjavplugin_oji.so in the folder, but strangely when i right-click or left-click it, it disappears.05:55
bigfootthoreauputic, i need to refresh the folder to have it appear again.05:55
lotusleafgeetergod, #xine05:55
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geetergodim there but nobodies there05:56
thoreauputiccheck in properties where it points - or do "ls -l ~/.mozilla/plugins/libjavplugin_oji.so to see where it points05:56
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bigfootthoreauputic, i can't check in properties, because the file and the context menu disappears!05:56
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novahow do i get lmsensors and xsensors to see my sensor type?05:57
bigfootthoreauputic, and now nautilus quit on me... maybe that's somehow connected to the tricky disappearing trick. i'll try aigan.05:57
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lotusleafis there a decent nautilus replacement with 2 panes (like krusader) for gnome?05:59
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bigfootnautilus is playing tricks with me, thoreauputic ....06:00
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thoreauputicbigfoot: hmm06:00
bigfootcan't even get to find out the properties via File-->Properties06:00
thoreauputicbigfoot: you might want to delete the symlink then06:00
thoreauputicin a terminal06:01
bigfootthoreauputic, I have it in "List View" and under the "Type" heading, it says "Link (Broken)"06:01
thoreauputicjust cd to the ~/.mozilla/plugins dir, then rm libjava*06:01
bigfootmaybe that's why it's acting strange06:01
tswstill seems lika a bug06:01
thoreauputicbigfoot: yes, you java may be in a different spot from mine06:02
bigfootthoreauputic,  i was  able to delete it via Edit--> Remove to tRash.06:02
thoreauputicactually, rm libjav*06:02
thoreauputicOK06:02
bigfootthoreauputic, how can i find out where java is located?06:02
m0r0nwhereis java?06:02
bigfootand if it's in a strange place, maybe I should put it in the default place right?06:03
thoreauputicbigfoot: run ` locate java ` I guess06:03
thoreauputicor `locate java | less `06:03
lotusleafsudo updatedb && locate java06:03
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thoreauputicprobably a fair bit of output...06:03
thoreauputiclotusleaf: right, good point06:03
m0r0nthoreauputic, whereis java!06:04
bigfootI did "whereis java" (thanks moron) and I got this: /usr/bin/java /usr/share/man/man1/java.1.gz06:04
lotusleafthoreauputic, I'm a guacamole goblin06:04
thoreauputicbigbootay: run what lotusleaf said ( your database needs to be up to date)06:04
thoreauputicbigfoot: you need more than /usr/bin/java to link the plugins06:04
bigfootthoreauputic, i did your "less" command too, which entry should I look at?06:05
bigfootthoreauputic, shall i put it in flood?06:05
thoreauputicbigfoot: you are looking for a path like /usr/java/jre1.5.0_01/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so06:05
thoreauputicnote the last bit06:06
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thoreauputicyours may be in /usr/bin/java (depends how you set java up)06:06
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DarkraD-hello, everytime i start ubuntu i need to do "sudo ifconfig wlan0 x.x.x.x" and "route add default gw x.x.x.x" before using internet.. is there a way to automize that?06:07
DarkraD-at every boot?06:07
thoreauputicsetting up java should be easier than this .. :/06:07
tswDarkraD-: put the infomation in /etc/network/interfaces06:07
DarkraD-i read man interfaces06:07
DarkraD-but haven't understand much =\06:08
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DarkraD-i can't figure out how should i set that file06:08
MichaelDiederichDarkraD-: /etc/networking/interfaces and /etc/resolv.conf06:08
novadamn it my fglrx drivers are not installed properly06:08
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MichaelDiederichDarkraD-: google06:08
novaive still got the mesa in fglrxinfo06:08
DarkraD-resolv.conf i already set06:08
bigfootthoreauputic, i think why i got this problem was because, a few weeks ago, before running the commands of ubuntuguide.org, i wanted to play a game i downloaded called Spice Jar. So i got some java program that can run .jar files.06:08
DarkraD-i need only to add those 2 command06:08
tswDarkraD-: no, those files have their own syntax06:09
thoreauputicbigfoot: possibly - i don't know06:09
DarkraD-ya06:09
DarkraD-i mean06:09
DarkraD-resolv.conf is already set06:09
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DarkraD-i set dns servers there06:09
DarkraD-nameserver x.x.x.x06:09
thoreauputicanyway, gotta go: good luck all06:09
kutucapesomeone here know where to download cybercafe billing?06:09
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kutucapeour cybercafe has moved from windows xp to ubuntu06:10
DarkraD-i need to set wireless static ip with ifconfig wlan0 x.x.x.x and set gateway with route add default gw x.x.x.x06:10
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bigfoothi guys, i found out that i have two "libjavaplugin_oji.so"'s on my system. They are at: /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/jre/plugin/i386/ns7-gcc29/libjavaplugin_oji.so06:11
bigfoot/usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so06:12
tswDarkraD-: you need something like this "auto wlan0" "iface wlan0 inet static" "address x.x.x.x" "netmask x.x.x.x" "gateway x.x.x.x"06:12
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tswevery " " are own lines06:12
DarkraD-nice thx06:12
thakatHello.  Anyone know why after loading the kde gui my cdrom automounter and my login screen is gone?  (login is there upon boot but not when I end session)06:12
DarkraD-ill try06:12
bigfootHow can i let firefox know that this is where the plugin is (for java)? thoreaputic was saying about making a symlink into my mozilla/plugins folder... So i guess if i make a symlink, i can get java enabled on Firefox, right? If so, please teach me how to make the symlink. Thank you!@06:13
tswDarkraD-: and remember to check that "auto lo" "iface lo inet loopback" is there also06:13
DarkraD-ya it's there =)06:13
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DanielCHello. Does Ubuntu use /usr/local for anything?06:17
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dabaDanielC: ls it.06:18
DanielCIt looks like all the subdirectories are empty.06:18
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DanielCdaba: I did. It has directories, but those seem empty.06:18
dabawell, on your system it may not then...:) did you -a?06:18
bigfootHi, I'm a newbie to Linux. the "Make Link..." option is greyed out when I cilck on a file... How then can i make a symlink?06:18
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dabaDanielC: I personally know for one i have Javas there.06:19
yccheok_bigfoot: ln -s <your source> <destination>06:19
[koji] bigfoot: man ln06:19
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yccheok_any have asm.lang language syntax plugin for gedit?06:19
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DanielCdaba: Ok. Ultimately, I was trying to find a good place to put software that is not from the Ubuntu repository.06:19
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DanielCdaba: I guess it'll go in /opt then.06:19
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novawhats the command to show kernel version?06:20
daba...bah, well, if its something root should run, that is not a bad place, and make him own it...06:20
caramboluname -a06:20
[koji] DanielC: There is a good docs explaining dir structure on LDP06:20
dababur if its software like limewire, just run it yourself.06:20
DanielC[koji] : LDP?06:20
carambolnova, uname -a06:20
[koji] oh Linux Documentation Proj06:21
DanielCok06:21
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dabatldp.com06:21
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DanielCok06:21
DanielCthanks06:21
dababut, I mean, I told you for progs.06:21
DanielCdaba: Where do you put softwarelike limewire?06:21
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dabain...your folder.. or run it as a completely separate user, with no privileges, just a home folder...06:22
geetergodisnt there something you can do to speedup your dvd drive so your xine isnt choppy?06:22
yccheok_yccheok: hi06:22
dabayo.06:22
yccheok_yccheok_: testing06:22
dabatestis.06:22
geetergodanyone know how to do that?06:22
bur[n] eranyone use sftp:// with nautilus??06:22
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bigfootyccheok_,  it worked. Thank you very much. Just wondering, how come it can't be done in GUI/Natilus?06:23
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novathere we go06:23
novaforgot needed to apt get fglrx with kernel version06:23
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geetergodanyone know what im talking about?06:23
spanglesontoastif I have no printer can I stop gnome cups icon from running?06:23
DanielCdaba: Well, if the point is to run limewire as a regular user I could chown /opt06:23
geetergodi swear i downloaded sometghing before that speeded up my dvd drive so xine wasnt choppy06:23
dabasure...06:24
dooglusgeetergod: sorry, I don't know06:24
dabaor something.06:24
geetergodk06:24
dabadooglus: thanks for the sympathy...06:24
dooglusdaba: any time.06:24
dooglusbut I won't kiss you.06:24
DanielChe he he06:24
dabadooglus: ok, thanks!06:24
daba!moron dooglus06:25
ubotudaba: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about06:25
daba:)06:25
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spanglesontoastcan I stop the gnome cups icon from running?06:25
dooglusI just looked in /usr/local for files and found one:06:25
DarkraD-tsw: thanks, works06:26
doogluschris@chrislap:~$ find /usr/local -type f06:26
dooglus/usr/local/share/fonts/fonts.cache-106:26
dooglushow did that get there?  in fact, how did all those empty directories get there too?06:26
DanielCdooglus: My thoughts exactly.  :)06:26
dooglusapt-file search /usr/local/ finds nothing - no package puts anything there?06:27
nihaodoes amarok support MPC audio format?06:27
dooglusDanielC: do that "find /usr/local -type f" - how many does it find?06:27
dabageetergod: now that Ive let you wait a while cause you are impatient:) use windows, have those? I mean you could try this or that... there is an entry on the RestrictedFormats wiki , and mplayer may help, dunno...06:27
dooglus(-type f is "just show files, not symlinks or directories")06:27
DanielCdooglus: one06:27
dooglusDanielC: the same one as me?06:27
DanielCyup06:27
dooglusDanielC: I'm running a program called 'cruft' which checks your filesystem against the packages you've installed, and tells you which files you're missing, and which ones it can't account for.06:28
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DanielCdooglus: ok06:29
dooglusDanielC: doh.  it took ages to run, and output to standard output, scrolled off the top of the screen...06:29
dooglusrunning it again to a file.06:29
DanielCdooglus: Thanks for the help.06:30
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geetergoddaba, i figured it out :)06:30
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geetergodjust trying to find out where to activate dma06:30
dabanow, or before?06:30
geetergodim trying to figure out how to now06:31
dabawell, edit the file, sudo gedit.06:31
geetergodif thats what u meant06:31
gaZooanyone know why the fonts for nerolinux look so crappy in Ubuntu??06:31
bigfootwhat does it mean when I run a java program on a website (to upload my pictures onto the website) and Firefox just closes itself...?06:31
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babaliciousegooday all, i was wondering if anyone could suggest a good gui web page editor06:32
AvinoamI have a problem- after i login to ubuntu, the computer freezes06:32
linuksobigfoot: wrong java plugin?06:32
DanielCbabaliciouse: How much experience do you have?06:32
AvinoamI do CTRL, alt, backspace, and try loging in again, with no result06:32
lotusleafbabaliciouse, nvu, mozilla composer, bluefish06:32
linuksobabaliciouse: nvu.06:32
DanielCbabaliciouse: For a newbie I'd recommend nvu. More seasoned users seem to like Quanta. I prefer bluefish.06:33
babaliciousei come from dreamweaver background - but would like to develop on my linux box06:33
dabageetergod: uncomment the { } llines, and the line about dma, first ls the two dirs you get for /dev/hdc, and /hdd if you have two drives, to find out which one is your dvd, but, you can also know this by which drive is the master, that one is hdc, usually, but check. and uncomment therefore those lines, in the file the document references, the wiki.06:33
DanielCah06:33
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bigfootlinukso, well, the embedded java program runs at the start. I could select "Choose files" but when i then click on the files (in the java program), that's when firefox closes itslef.06:33
Avinoamanyone have any ideas?06:33
dooglusdaba: which file are you talking about?06:33
dabageetergod: um...you find out by sudo mount06:33
dabadooglus: go read the restrictedformats wiki, #8.06:34
DanielCbabaliciouse: I don't know what dreamweaver is like, so I can't say which would be most similar. Sorry. So I guess just try nvu, bluefish and Quanta and see if you like any of them.06:34
babaliciousethanx for all the suggestions -i'll check them out - do any of he above incorporate php quick adds06:34
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babaliciousei'll go give them a look thanks guys06:35
DanielChope you find something that works well for you.06:35
dabayo, no problah06:35
geetergodi got it daba06:35
geetergodall figured out, thanks06:35
linuksobigfoot: which jre are you using?06:35
dabaok, so...I did too, and ended up in windows watching a dvd,...06:35
lotusleafbabaliciouse, you can also search sourceforge.net & freshmeat.net06:35
AvinoamAnyone?06:36
daba!anyone06:36
bigfootlinukso, how do i find out?06:36
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ubotu***anyone: No such nick/channel - and yes, there probably is someone, somewhere, who knows or runs it; that doesn't mean *I* do.06:36
babaliciousety lotusleaf, i'll check it out06:36
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linuksobigfoot: search for java in synaptic06:36
lotusleafbabaliciouse, yw06:36
Avinoamdid you guys hear my question?06:37
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dabayoure making your own question scroll out the screen...06:38
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Avinoamhuh06:38
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webminddoes anyone know where to get a flash plugin for firefox in ubuntu? the GPL plugn crashes firefox...06:38
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DanielCAvinoam: I thought you made a statement, not a question :-)  Sorry, I don't know why Ctrl+Alt+Backspace doesn't kill X11.06:39
AvinoamMy computer freezes after i enter my user name and password06:39
linuksoAvinoam: what happends if you select gnome-failsafe as session06:39
bigfootlinukso, did the search for "java." nothing installed under that name.06:39
Avinoamstill freezes06:39
linuksobigfoot: search for jre06:39
linuksoor sun06:39
Avinoamcontrol alt backspace does kill it06:39
DanielCoh, ok06:39
Avinoambut that doesn't help me get in06:39
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Avinoami can't figure out why it won't work06:40
DanielC:(06:40
bigfootlinukso, sun-j2re1.5 and sun-j2sdk1.506:40
Avinoamwhat could the problem be?06:40
dabaAvinoam: linukso's suggestion may help...06:40
Avinoamit still freezes06:41
dabadont type so much, all of you, if you dont know, dont make the quewstion scroll off the screen...06:41
Avinoameven on failsafe06:41
dabawell, does console work?06:41
Avinoamno it won't let me input06:41
dabawhat can you do?06:41
Avinoamsee the console06:42
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dabajust mount it somewhere, and get the files off, its locked up...06:42
Avinoami have a knoppix live cd i just need to know what files to fix06:42
dgoodwinAnyone know how to get efax or gfax to work on other users besides root?06:43
Avinoamdaba?06:43
glill32Hello, I'm a 62-year-old police dispatcher from Alabama, and my son has set me up with Ubuntu since most of the programs he has taught me to use run on both Windows XP and also Ubuntu, so I'm trying to get ubuntu setup... it looks nice but there's one problem I can't seem to fix.06:43
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ubermonziehi all06:43
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Amaranthglill32: Ask and see if someone can help.06:43
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dabano, he didah...06:44
Avinoamanyone know what is freezing the comp?06:44
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glill32I am trying to get both my screens running. Instead, either they are both showing the same thing, or one is working right and the other one is all distorted (wrong resolution, or something).06:44
Eliteforcehi06:44
glill32Last night somebody told me to set up Xinerama, and that didn't work so well either.06:45
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Avinoamneed help06:45
Avinoamblah06:45
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Eliteforcei've got a little question about the apt repositories ... i've downloaded some deb files from a rep. manually and would like to make apt-get find them06:45
Avinoamelite see the wiki06:46
Eliteforcek'ey :906:46
dooglusglill32: what video card do you have?06:46
Amaranthglill32: Perhaps http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31686 would help?06:46
ubermonzieone way would be to copy them to apt06:46
ubermonzieone way would be to copy them to apt's archive on your HD06:46
Avinoamanyone know what could cause ubuntu to freeze after login?06:46
dabaEliteforce: are they on a disc? or just in a folder? cause if your just trying to install them, that should not be too hard.06:46
Avinoamand how to correct it?06:47
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ubermonzielocated in /var/cache/apt/archives06:47
dabano avinoam, you say what caused it...:)06:47
ubermonziegot it Eliteforce06:47
Eliteforceah thx06:47
Avinoamwhat?06:47
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AmaranthAvinoam: Are you using the 2.6.11 kernel?06:47
Avinoami'm using the newest kernel06:47
Avinoamupgraded yesterday06:48
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Avinoamvia synaptic06:48
glill32dooglus: I have a Radeon 9000 with two connectors on it. One connector is hooked up to a standard 17" monitor I like to run in 1280x1024, the other is hooked up to a 36" monitor that runs at 800x60006:48
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dabadid you log in after that?06:48
inc595anyone know where to edit vnc start option in ubtunu?06:48
Avinoamyes06:48
AmaranthAvinoam: The 2.6.11 kernel doesn't work. On startup when it says to hit escape and choose the 2.6.10 one.06:48
dgoodwinAnyone know how to get efax or gfax to work on other users besides root?06:48
dabaAmaranth: there was that entry abiout dual monitors on the binarydrvirehowto...06:48
dooglusglill32: ok.  I don't know about that then.  I have an SiS video card and found a very nice driver for it.06:48
Avinoamhuh?06:48
Avinoamwhen does it ask to hit escape?06:48
Avinoamit worked today06:49
AmaranthAvinoam: Right after BIOS but before ubuntu boots06:49
Avinoamafter downloading06:49
AmaranthAvinoam: also, do you use backports or any other non-official repositories?06:49
Avinoamyes06:49
Amaranth*groan*06:49
Avinoambut i used today!!06:49
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Avinoami logged on today!!06:49
Avinoamand suddenly, no go06:49
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Amaranththen you installed the 2.6.11 kernel and now it doesn't work?06:50
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Avinoami installed yesterday and it still worked06:50
Amaranthnothing changed from then until now?06:50
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Avinoamnetwork settings a litte....06:50
Avinoambut that shouldn't cause a crash!06:50
AmaranthHrm, I have no idea.06:51
dgoodwindid you reboot after the kernel change yesterday ?06:51
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Avinoamyes dgood06:51
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AmaranthI know there was something with security updates for the kernel and glibc from backports that was causing problems.06:51
Avinoamwell, can i reinstall kernel?06:51
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YazzYhi guys06:51
agenthas anyone been successful in installing IE in wine? tried both wine in ubuntu repo and the "official" wine repo for ubuntu... both hang during install using all the known methods06:51
YazzYwhat does ubuntu use to make all the new app appear in the gnome menu immidiately after one installed them ?06:52
Avinoamagent why would you do that?06:52
dbasetrinitycan someone tell me if theres a program that can change web pages into pdf's06:52
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AmaranthYazzY: The app installs a .desktop file.06:52
YazzYdbasetrinity: openoffice can06:52
AmaranthYazzY: You want to edit your menu?06:52
agentAvinoam, because there is a program that is only available on windows with no linux equivalent that requires IE06:52
dbasetrinitythank you06:52
IIIEarsagent - lol - i couldn't even get solitaire to work.06:52
YazzYAmaranth: i want to use the same thing on my FreeBSD laptop with Gnome06:52
AmaranthYazzY: Oh.06:53
AmaranthYazzY: GNOME 2.10 on FreeBSD?06:53
YazzYyes06:53
BlaamannI am trying to install Enlightenment (E16) using synaptic. I find it using the 'Search', but when trying to install it Synaptic tells me it can't find an avaiable version of the the package.06:53
Avinoamso what should i do now is the question?06:53
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Eliteforceah i love the whole packaging system :D06:53
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dooglusI know this is going to sound a little unlikely but...06:53
SpookyETgot a YaST clone for ubuntu?06:54
Eliteforcekcontrol :P06:54
agentIIIEars, thats unfortunate because I know that about a year ago i was able to install IE in wine no problem... it's rather annoying that it wont install now :(06:54
dooglusI just found a simple "grep" command which, when I run it as my own user, not root, it causes my laptop to turn itself off!06:54
YazzYAmaranth: GNOME 2.10.0_106:54
IIIEarsagent do you remember the wine vers.?06:54
AmaranthYazzY: Complain to FreeBSD then. It's a distro thing.06:54
Avinoamanyone got an idea what i should do?06:55
AmaranthAvinoam: Sorry, no.06:55
agentIIIEars, heh... no... it was probably some random cvs version that i compiled06:55
Avinoamdo i need to reinstall ubuntu?06:55
AmaranthAvinoam: Ask on the users list?06:55
YazzYAmaranth: i am on ubuntu on my dekstop box at home and i dont see any .desktop file in my ~/06:55
webmindanyone know how you 'disable composite' in xorg ?06:55
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AmaranthYazzY: /usr/share/applications/06:55
Amaranthwebmind: It's not enabled unless you did it manually.06:55
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webmindAmaranth, ah06:55
webmindAmaranth, then my flash problem is something else06:56
YazzYAmaranth: thanks06:56
IIIEarsuAh, Okay. - I don't need the power of cedega. (DOS Scrabble)06:56
AmaranthIIIEars: freedos?06:56
webmindthe gpl flash player keeps crashing my firefox when I try to use flash...06:56
webmindanyone familiar with this problem ?06:56
IIIEarsAmaranth - in linux?06:56
Amaranthwebmind: use macromedia's flash player, the gpl'd one sucks06:56
AmaranthIIIEars: yeah06:56
lokwebmind: gpl flash is more than unstable06:56
webmindgood06:57
AmaranthIIIEars: sudo apt-get install freedos06:57
webmindwhere do I get it ?06:57
IIIEarsThank You - I'll check it out.06:57
Amaranthwebmind: should be a package for it06:57
YazzYAmaranth: this is the standard gnome thing then,there is no difference between ubuntu and any other gnome installation as far as i can see06:57
SpookyETEliteforce, not even close06:57
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agentwebmind, you should read www.ubuntuguide.org <--- will answer all your questions!06:57
webmindAmaranth, couldn't find it.. what should it be called ?06:57
webmindAmaranth, I'll look06:57
sobersabrehi.06:57
blueyedCan someone lend me a hand? I have problems compiling the cherry keyman software: "/usr/bin/ld: .init.o: relocation R_X86_64_32S can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC" seems to be the error.06:57
Amaranthwebmind: flashplayer-mozilla06:57
agentwebmind, you should read www.ubuntuguide.org <--- will answer all your questions!06:58
AmaranthDo _not_ use ubuntuguide.org06:58
webmindAmaranth, not ?06:58
agentwhy not?06:58
AmaranthMore on that site is wrong than right.06:58
agentnot06:58
agentit worked for me06:58
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agentnp06:58
AmaranthAnd the wrong stuff breaks your computer.06:58
Amaranthagent: As a sortof ubuntu dev, trust me, I know.06:58
webmindno package called flashplayer-mozilla06:59
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Amaranthhrm06:59
webmindusing hoary for amd64 btw06:59
Amaranthwebmind: you have universe and multiverse enabled?06:59
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webmindyes06:59
Amaranthoh, amd6406:59
agentAmaranth, not when it comes to flash... it says to do what you said: sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla06:59
agent:D06:59
Amaranthno flash for you then :/06:59
JanCIIIEars : I think Amaranth meant "dosbox" instead of "freedos"06:59
dgoodwinCan someone help me get my modem to work with other users besides root?06:59
YazzYAmaranth: so how the heck are the menus updated when the /usr/(local/)share/applications part is the same for any gnome installation?07:00
webmindAmaranth, not at all ?07:00
sobersabreblueyed, what are you compiling ?07:00
YazzYis there a daemon doing this ?07:00
webmindAmaranth, can't use a 32bit flash player ?07:00
Amaranthwebmind: not without a 32-bit firefox07:00
IIIEarsOops - okay. (done the same thing NP Amaranth)07:00
webmindAmaranth, good enough07:00
agentwebmind, just type this in console: sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla07:00
Amaranthwebmind: No idea how to get that.07:00
agentwebmind, all on one line07:00
blueyedsobersabre: keym@n software for a cherry keyboard.. (cymolin-0.6.0-2)07:00
Amaranthagent: He is on amd64.07:00
webmindagent, doesn't exist .....07:00
agentAmaranth, ooooooooh... ooops... sorry07:00
sobersabreblueyed, why ?07:01
blueyedsobersabre: because there's no amd64 package on the CD.. it's for the extra keys of the keyboard.07:01
sobersabrewhy not "hotkeys" ?07:01
JanCmacromedia's flashplayer is flakey too, but it's maybe more stable than the GPL'ed one  ;-)07:01
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WhiteRabbitflash works flawlessly here no firefox crashs what so ever07:02
webmindis there anyway of installing 32bit packages ?07:02
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webmindWhiteRabbit, on amd64 ?07:02
sobersabreblueyed, have you heard of hotkeys package ?07:02
WhiteRabbitwebmind: no way lol07:02
agenthas anyone been successful in installing IE in wine? tried both wine in ubuntu repo and the "official" wine repo for ubuntu... both hang during install using all the known methods07:02
webmindsig07:02
blueyedsobersabre: just apt-getting it, thanks :)07:02
webmindagent, I know someone who has IE in crossoveroffice I think ?07:03
dabaWhiteRabbit: no, eh? hm...07:03
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sobersabreblueyed, i am not so sure it'll help.07:03
agentwebmind, but crossover office is not free :D07:03
sobersabrewhat is the model of the kbd ?07:03
WhiteRabbitI wouldn't personly run a amd64 yet07:03
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sobersabreblueyed, which model ?07:04
webmindagent, true07:04
Maxhey all07:04
Maxhelp me plz07:04
sobersabreblueyed, before you download, i can tell if it is supported! why do you d/l it before checking ? :)07:04
agentwebmind, it's rather annoying because it worked about a year ago :(07:04
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blueyedsobersabre: G86-2107007:04
sobersabreMax, ask.07:04
webmindagent, ok07:05
webmindagent, might still07:05
Maxsobersabre, i have downloaded a file "gnome-themes.2.4.1.tar.bz2" how do i install it??07:05
jaysunnHello all I am new to ubuntu, I am using Kubuntu Hoary release.  Can anyone help with this.  http://pastebin.com/29399307:05
sobersabreblueyed, i don't see it among supported models07:05
agentwebmind, it does not... at least i cant get it to work using different methods of installing :(07:05
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sobersabreMax, why have you downloaded it ?07:05
blueyedsobersabre: man says "And more..." :/07:06
cevansIn a pinned setup, is there any way to list all installed breezy packages, or to replace all breezy packages to hoary packages?07:06
Maxjust wanted a new theme07:06
Maxsobersabre, just wanted a new theme07:06
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sobersabreyou open preferences->themes and drag the file there...07:06
sobersabreinto the list.07:06
cevanss/to/with07:06
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Maxbut says its not installed.. do i have to configure or something i am new to linux sobersabre07:07
Maxsobersabre, it says i need to compile07:08
sobersabreMax,07:08
Maxhow do i compile sobersabre07:08
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agentMax, in preferences->themes notice the big button called "Install Theme".... try using that07:08
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sobersabredo you want to get into troubles ?07:08
Maxyes it says i need to compile sobersabre07:08
sobersabreagent, it is source for themes 2.4.107:08
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sobersabreMax which ubuntu version do you have ?07:09
agentsobersabre, ah :)07:09
Maxi have 5.0407:09
Max64 bit ver07:09
sobersabrethen you most probably already have it.07:09
bystanderMax: save youself the trouble and install gnome-themes-extras07:09
blueyedsobersabre: "hotkeys -t itouch" at least gets the volume.. :/ So, I'd still like to compile the "native" keyman software.. @all: please PM me if you think you can help.07:09
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bystander*yourself07:09
Fator_Deehello channel \o07:09
Maxbystander, from synaptics?07:09
sobersabreMax: can you run dpkg -l gnome-themes07:09
agentMax, yes07:09
bystanderMax: yes. or use apt07:09
Maxsobersabre,  let me try07:10
sobersabreMax from terminal, run: dpkg -l gnome-themes07:10
Eliteforcewhere can i get the qt3-dev package from? i need it for compiling raconfig07:10
sobersabreyou will see gnome-themes v. 2.10 something...07:10
Maxyes sobersabre  it gives some output07:10
sobersabreright ?07:10
Fator_DeeEliteforce: tried searching in synaptic?07:10
sobersabreii is on the left ?07:10
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Eliteforceah i think i found it07:10
bystanderbystander: gnome-themes-extras is in the universe repository07:11
sijplibqt3-dev07:11
Maxsobersabre,  it gives Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold07:11
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newbbiehi all07:11
BlaamannHow do I change the language in GNOME ? Some applications defaults to danish instead of my chosen language that is norwegian. It is possible to choose another language than danish whenever norwegian is unavailable ?07:11
Maxsobersabre,  Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed07:11
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sobersabreMax this is the top line.07:12
sobersabrewhat is the bottom line ?07:12
newbbiea simple question: how does one save automatically the output resulting from the execution of a command to a text file?07:12
Lord-Phoenixhey by default, i'm gonna assume ubuntu uses gdm, but where does it start it?07:12
Maxyes and the second line is  Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed07:13
Max sobersabre07:13
webmindis there anyway to do some 32bit emulation or something on amd64 ?07:13
agentBlaamann, just so you know, there is a help article on how to configure languages on ubuntu.org (probably the wiki)07:13
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sobersabrethe bottom line is "sobersabre"?07:13
Maxsobersabre, ii  gnome-themes       2.10.0-0ubuntu1    official themes for the GNOME 2 desktop07:13
Blaamannagent: Ok, I will search for it07:13
sobersabrei didn't release any packages of myself yet.07:13
blueyednewbbie: command > file07:13
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Maxlol sorry sobersabre07:13
agentnewbbie, instead of typing command type in command > file07:14
Blaamannnewbbie: >> file.text07:14
sobersabreMax as you can see you already have the newer package.07:14
Maxokay..07:14
sobersabreMAx if u want more, go to gnome-look.org07:14
Lord-Phoenixsomeone? where does Ubuntu start gdm?07:14
sobersabrethere are plenty of them there...07:14
sobersabreLord-Phoenix, depends.07:14
sobersabreif you choose kubuntu cd, it starts kdm07:14
Maxsobersabre,  i can download but again i dont know how to compile07:14
Raskallanyone knows of how the shipping of cd's is done? a lot of my friends that ordered same time as me has gotten theirs, but I havent seen even a floppy disk in my mailbox.07:15
Lord-Phoenixsobersabre: assume you choose ubuntu cd, and go with the defaults07:15
cevansLord-Phoenix: /etc/init.d/gdm ?07:15
newbbieah... :) thank you agent and Blaamann :)07:15
Maxso sobersabre  will u plz tell me how to compile??07:15
webmindhmm07:15
sobersabreMax, themes are collection of pictures and conf. files. they don't need to be really compiled,07:15
webmindwill de 32bit flashplayer work on a 32bit mozille on amd64 ?07:15
Maxok sob let me try07:15
sobersabreyou dl them, and then drag them into the themes dialog.07:15
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markyanyone know how to install a computer as gateway using ubuntu ?07:15
Maxthank you sobersabre07:15
Blaamannnewbbie: >> appends to the file07:15
inc595got fluxbox and vnc running ... pretty fast07:16
sobersabrejust there are many types of themes: win controls, win decors, icon sets07:16
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Maxsobersabre,  but how do i compile the .tar files??07:17
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Maxi am not getting sound from XMMS...07:18
Fator_DeeMax: extract the tar and read the README file07:18
Maxi cant hear any sound..07:18
Maxokay sobersabre07:18
Maxdo i have to install any plugin to watch movie on totem?? its not working in my sys07:19
markyfluxbox ?07:19
Eliteforcehow can i do this by console:  Under System -> Administration you will find networking. Your Ralink card will be listed there. Activate it.07:19
inc595never heard of it?07:19
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inc595marky, it's a windows manger like gnome07:20
markymmm...07:20
inc595but stripped of all the bloat07:20
goldfishthe new fluxbox is great07:20
markyi've only heard icewm07:20
marky:)07:20
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goldfishmarky: www.fluxbox.org, check out the screenshots, and you will want to use it :007:20
goldfishIT's so cool looking.07:20
inc595hehe fluxbox is pretty07:20
Maxcan i use KDE in ubuntu??07:21
markywill it work on p2 400mhz with 64 ram ?07:21
goldfishMax: Yes.07:21
inc595kubuntu07:21
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lokMax: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop07:21
webmindhoary is suposed to be a stable release ?07:21
goldfishmarky: It's alot faster than gnome.07:21
goldfishwebmind: It is.07:21
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Maxlok what is the size??07:21
webmindgoldfish, so these anoying bugs shouldn't be07:21
markymm.. i want to install a gateway07:21
inc595Marky i'm running it on a amd-k607:21
webmindXorg just crashed on trying to play a vob file07:22
inc595if you icewm then u can run fluxbox07:22
goldfishwebmind: oh right... hmmm.07:22
markya whole lan connect to internet through that07:22
webmindalso on a mov file07:22
markyshould i use fluxbox or.. just command line ?07:22
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inc595dude command line all the way07:22
Maxlok, do u have any idea what is the size of that?? because my download is limited..07:22
inc595who needs a gui07:22
markyhehehehe,07:23
bystanderMax: around 100MB07:23
markyi don't quite know about command line in linux07:23
Maxthankx bystander07:23
inc595well just load aterm and you got commad line lol07:23
markylol, not that07:23
markyi mean that awk , gawk,07:23
markyor setting shorewall (firewall)07:24
Maxi am just using linux.. and its amazing.. sound quality and some features are better than windows.07:24
markyvery confusinngggg :((07:24
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anteI just wonder why my fast speed internet is so slow in every linux distro I try07:25
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antein windows it takes 1sec to load a page07:25
Pop_pa_FrEaKante what kind of connectiuon do you have ?07:25
ante10mbit07:25
Pop_pa_FrEaKconnection*07:25
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Pop_pa_FrEaKyou behind a router ?07:25
anteyepp07:25
markyante: it seems me too have the same problem07:25
inc595brb07:25
webmindhmm07:25
antedi-80407:25
webmindnm07:25
Pop_pa_FrEaKare you using dhcp ?07:26
markythe download limited to about 9 kbps maybe07:26
antemarky ok good.. thought I was alone =)07:26
anteyepp dhcp it is07:26
markyin windows, .. it's about 22 kbps >_<"07:26
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webmindshould ubuntu voor the i386 work on amd64 ?07:26
Pop_pa_FrEaKI use the same and I have no trouble07:26
Pop_pa_FrEaKi have the di-60407:26
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anteI dont have trouble but it is not so fast as when I surf the web in windows07:27
r0dwhat can I use to burn dvd's07:27
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Fator_Deer0d: graveman, nautilus, gnomebaker, growisfs07:27
markyyes.. i can still browsing & download07:27
antewhile a page takes 1sec in windows it takes 1min in linux07:27
Fator_Dee*growisofs07:27
Pop_pa_FrEaKr0d, what desktop are you using ?07:27
markybut it seems the speed are different07:27
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Maxanyone??07:27
r0dPop_pa_FrEaK, gnome. i just need to backup my movies and dont want to use windows07:28
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r0dI have gnomebaker Fator_Dee and theirs no option. i searched for plugins07:28
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Pop_pa_FrEaKtry dvd:rip r0d07:28
Fator_Deer0d: option for what? it can burn dvd's07:28
r0dthx Pop_pa_FrEaK07:29
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Maxcan i watch TV in07:29
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Pop_pa_FrEaKnot sure max07:29
r0dFator_Dee, I dont know, i cant see any dvd options.07:29
Maxcan i watch tv in ubuntu .. i have a mercury tv card07:29
MaxPop_pa_FrEaK, why not? does not support the hardware?07:30
pestilenceMax: try xawtv07:30
Fator_DeeMax: try to use the card and you'll see07:30
Fator_DeeMax: or tvtime07:30
herpesno no tvtime07:30
herpesxaw is nasty07:30
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Fator_Deewhatever works for you07:30
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GeMiNniSer irc-hispano.org07:31
GeMiNniSer dune.irc-hispano.org07:31
Maxi tried in the older version on ubuntu .. didnt work there.. will it work here in 5.04?07:32
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webmindok.. Xorg crashes if I want to use Xv07:33
agentMax, the question is not whether Ubuntu supports the card or not its whether or not the card supports linux :D07:33
gentoonman i just got everything setup like i like it but now i lost sound07:33
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Maxoh.. so its the other way :D agent07:33
antedoes anyone know if there is gaim skins to download in cyberspace?07:33
synd!seen nern07:33
ubotunern <~nern@cable6-7.murray-ky.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 7h 8m 31s ago, saying: 'hey hey hey'.07:33
gentoonhow can i reconfigure my sound?07:34
Maxanyways agent  what plugin do i need to install to watch movie in totem?07:34
syndgentoon, whats wrong with it?07:34
Lord-Phoenixanyone know about ubuntu black screening after logout with the ATI fglrx drivers?07:34
anteMax just download xine and everything will work!07:34
webmindranyone know if ubuntu for i386 will work on amd64 ?07:34
bystanderwebmind: yes, it will07:35
syndwebmind, yes07:35
Maxtotem xine?? i have downloaded.. it says need to install required plugin ante07:35
webmindok07:35
webmindthen might as well downgrade07:35
IIIEarsxine is best!07:35
webmindif half of the amd64 stuff doesn';t work yet..07:35
webmind:(07:35
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gentoonsynd, was working fine before but no i just dun have it, cant even open the volume control?07:35
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syndgentoon, odd. try logging out and logging back in?07:36
bystandergentoon: try alsamixer in a terminal07:36
gentoonof x yea07:36
Maxit says there is no plugin to handle this movie07:36
anteMax get the unsupported plugins from your repositories07:36
syndMax, you have to get the restrictedformats07:36
bystander! restricted07:36
Maxante i dont know which plugin i need07:36
uboturestricted is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats07:36
bystandermax read that07:36
IIIEars!thanks07:37
ubotubitte, IIIEars07:37
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sppthi07:37
synd!seen zevin07:37
ubotui haven't seen 'zevin', synd07:37
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anteThe restrictedformats page does not help so much07:38
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syndMax, I like using ubuntuguide.com07:38
sppthow can i dump the grub loader, and use the original windows one?? cuz i dont use linux anymore07:38
Maxokay07:38
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syndMax, .org i mean07:38
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ZirlandHi. I have small problem with keyboard layout. I use QWERTY layout in the system, but on the Login screen it types QWERTZ, which is standard07:39
pestilencesppt: fdisk /MBR07:39
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spptand then?07:39
IIIEarshttp://ubuntuguide.org/07:39
pestilenceno adn then.07:39
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Maxi wonder .com is not working07:39
sppt?07:39
webmindok..07:39
spptadn???07:39
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angelohello all07:40
webmindsofar.. -every- media player crashed Xorg on amd64/hoary07:40
pestilenceNO AND THEN :-D07:40
webmindusing radeon driver07:40
syndmax, what IIIEars said, I flubbed up07:40
angelowho wanna help me ?07:40
sppti still dont get it:P07:40
pestilenceyou probably have to boot off a boot disk to do that, you need a windows fdisk07:40
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IIIEarsNP - yes and i am perfect too.. - lol07:40
JanCangelo : we don't know what you want ?  :)07:40
angelo:)07:40
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Maxyes synd  thankx.. its working07:40
pestilencesppt: fdisk /MBR restores the mbr.  it will remove grub.07:40
spptk07:41
angeloi want compile the kadu [kady.net] , but i have some bugs...07:41
syndMax, so you got xine working?07:41
angelo[kadu.net] 07:41
pestilencesppt: but you want windows fdisk, not linux.07:41
spptand then, i can use partition magic or something to get my space to my drive back?07:41
pestilencesure, why not.07:41
sppt:)07:41
gentoon_man something is really wrong, i completey restarted and i didnt even get a volume icon in the systray, i have no sound at all07:41
pestilencesppt: you'll probably get a warmer welcome in a windows channel, though.07:41
Maxnoo synd07:42
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gentoon_Man i really start to like this os, then something breaks07:42
IIIEarssppt - (Psst. qtparted comes on the othe live CD distro "Kn" something. - works pretty well.)07:42
Maxit was working07:42
spptbad thing is that all my disk are nuked07:42
angeloi have this bug: checking for C++ compiler default output file name... configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables07:42
Maxbut its not working now synd07:42
devinjdwhat's up everyone07:42
syndgentoon_, http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly07:42
lotusleafsppt, that's not a bug that's a feature07:42
gentoon_i just spent like 3 hrs making all these launches and customizing and now i lost sound07:42
angeloanyone can help me ?07:42
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devinjdhave a quick question...07:42
bystandersppt: angelo sudo apt-get install build-essential07:42
inva|idhow do you start a new session from within gnome?07:43
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angeloi try..07:43
sppt:S07:43
bystandersorry sppt - for angelo07:43
spptk07:43
Zirlandanybody help me with keyb layout setup?07:43
markyanyone know manual how to configure shorewall ?07:43
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pestilencemarky: /etc/shorewall07:43
lotusleaf-sppt- My current status is: online. My nick has been said 76 times. <-- that's dumb07:43
angeloi'm from poland so my english is not good..07:43
angelo:)07:43
Amaranthlotusleaf: how did you get that?07:44
spptthats nnscript or something, dunno exactly07:44
markyyeah.. i mean the complete manual07:44
pestilenceAmaranth: say sppt's name07:44
markyhow to set etc207:44
Amaranthsppt:07:44
sppt:p07:44
lotusleafAmaranth, it's showing up whenever I type sppt07:44
AmaranthYeah, turn that off.07:44
bystanderangelo: you need the build-essential package07:44
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spptcant:(07:44
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IIIEarssppt - if you are comfortable with linux tmsrtbt disk is very good - not easy.07:44
AmaranthThen get a new IRC client.07:44
devinjdany way I can fix my mixer so that the master volume works?07:44
lotusleafsppt, it's fscking annoying07:44
sppti know07:45
spptjsut dont say my name07:45
devinjdbasically im trying to control my volume using the volume keys on my laptop but it only control the master volume07:45
devinjdwhich does not do anything07:45
devinjdi have to use PCM07:45
Amaranthsppt: That's how we talk to people on IRC. We say their name before the message. Like this.07:45
angeloi think i have build-essential package, i write sudo apt-get install build-essential, and it's complete...but what now ?07:45
bystandersppt: um - no YOU turn it off, please07:45
lotusleafsppt, that, coupled with your I don't use linux remark or whatever earlier is enough to warrant an addition to my ignore list07:45
devinjdany idieas?07:45
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angeloanyone know ?:)07:46
Amaranthsppt: Get rid of your 1337 h@x0r illegal mIRC install and it won't be a problem.07:46
spptits legal07:46
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funkyhi07:46
syndcant we all just get along : )07:46
sobersabredevinjd, which desktop are you on ? gnome or kde ?07:46
Amaranthsppt: You paid for it?07:46
spptw8, it could be a script07:46
dabaangelo:)07:46
funkyI cant install apt-file in breezy :(07:46
pestilencemarky: have you looked at the files in /etc/shorewall07:46
spptevery1 knows that mirc is free07:46
syndsppt, no07:46
Amaranthsppt: It it a script, disable it.07:46
funkyE: Package libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5-3.9 has no installation candidate07:47
Amaranthsppt: It's not free, it's nagware.07:47
IIIEarssppt - when you said your disks are nuked. - Did you just need a good app to burn an iso in windows? "ISOBurner Powertoy" by Alex Feinman (linux cdrecord or gnomebaker is better)07:47
markyi have07:47
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syndsppt, its shareware.07:47
Amaranthsppt: Disabling the nag without paying is illegal.07:47
pestilencemarky: and how about the documentation on the shorewall website or in /usr/share/doc/shorewall?07:47
angelodaba: you know ? :>07:47
spptwell, after the days are expired, u can still click continue07:47
synd-sppt- VERSION ( NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.nnscript.de :: www.XLhost.de )07:47
markypestilence: well.. i don't understand itu07:47
syndsppt, just unload the scripts bud07:48
inc595marky, I mae a couple screen shot of my fluxbox desktop07:48
markypestilence: it is just too... complicated07:48
dabaangelo, not sure, was that the whole question, you installed build essential, and now what?07:48
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sppti gotta friggin fiind it07:48
bystandersppt: this is a different world: we don't *have* to use lame nagware07:48
pestilencemarky: what are you trying to do07:48
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gentoon_Still no sound!! wtf?07:48
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syndsppt, no. unload them all. scripts are a kiddy thing from the mid 90s07:48
inc595http://ubuntu.minimzx.com/screenshot.jpg07:48
markypestilence: i'm trying to build a gateway07:48
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JanCangelo : you have a C++ compiler installed ?07:48
JanC:)07:48
angelothat i think :)07:48
sppti cant friggin find it07:48
drspinanyone used OpenOffice 2?07:49
angelobut where i can try this ?07:49
markypestilence: and i want to install firewall of course07:49
IIIEarssppt - find  what?07:49
Fator_Deesynd: well, there are also good scripts :-\07:49
Blaamanndrspin_ yes07:49
spptthe friggin script07:49
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angeloi download a gcc 4.0..and i install it....07:49
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gentoon_i dunno what to try now07:49
markypestilence: the gateway itself well.. is an old computer, so maybe i'll use command line instead of any GUI07:49
gentoon_guess i was taking sound for granted07:49
pestilencemarky: shorewall is a bit complicated for a beginner.  that's about all i can say :)07:49
bystanderangelo: um - gcc 4 on hoary??07:49
JanCangelo : try "g++ --version"07:50
markyinc595: wawww.... great !07:50
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angelodaba - i write in bahs this line...and something it's done...what now ?07:50
syndsppt, bud, go into mIRC script editor (the green a/ icon) select all, delete, and save07:50
angeloi have g++ installed07:50
syndFator_Dee, :p07:50
markypestilence: mm... can you recommend any other firewall ?07:50
inc595marky, making a second one07:50
Fator_Deesynd: like I use keepnick.pl and dns.pl :-p07:50
pestilencemarky: for just a firewall, you could look at rc.firewall.  very simple.07:50
IIIEarsfirestarter linux firewall - a GUI Wee!07:50
spptim searching the script, but i think its just the friggin nnscript07:50
gentoon_what could have screwed up my sound so bad?07:50
syndwhatever sppt07:51
markypestilence: rc.firewall ?07:51
pestilencemarky: http://projectfiles.com/firewall/07:51
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gentoon_i dun even think its starting a sound server07:51
markypestilence: i'll try07:51
syndgentoon, what does alsamixer return in terminal07:51
gentoon_it opens a cmi mixer07:51
IIIEarsFirestarter will let you peak at it's internals and get you ready for shorewall07:51
markymarky: test07:52
spptfuck my floppy's >:(07:52
ZirlandI have small problem with keyboard layout. I use QWERTY layout in the system, but on the Login screen it types QWERTZ, which is standard07:52
gentoon_my system monitor says everything is sleeping?07:52
inc595marky, http://ubuntu.minimzx.com/screenshot2.jpg07:52
angeloi write again :) - i write in bash "sudo apt-get install build-essential", and something it's done....what i should do now ? after this command ?07:52
bystandergentoon_: check for muted channels07:52
webmindare there non-rpm packages for the propriatary ati drivers?07:52
markypestilence: is it textmode ?07:52
dabaangelo: angelo, you cant be asking me what to do after you install build essential, did you have a reason you installed it?07:52
gentoon_its all right07:52
gentoon_just the sound server isnt running07:52
pestilencemarky: yes.07:52
inc595marky, shows the menuon that one07:53
gentoon_thst why i get no volume icon in system tray at startup07:53
pestilencemarky: but pretty much all you hav to do is run the script.07:53
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angeloyes, i want compile a kadu communicator www.kadu.net, but some bugs are in my pc....in compiler...07:53
spptcan i also put the bootdisk on one of my hdd's, and then let it boot to there?07:53
bystandergentoon_: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa restart07:53
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IIIEarsangelo - Upgrading your kernel for a videao driver? - build-essential is ready to go. add your new kernel source.07:53
markyinc595: very2 niceeeee :)07:54
angelook, i try07:54
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dabaangelo: my mom always says, get some bug spray... dude, you need to tell exactly what you are doing, and what the rror you are getting is.07:54
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angelo:)07:54
angelook, from beginning:07:54
markyinc595: but can it (fluxbox) work on an old computer ?07:54
IIIEarsheh07:54
dabain one line, please.07:54
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bystandermarky: it's particularly good on old computers07:55
angeloi download the tar.bz2 archive from kadu.net [this is a communicator] , now i want to compile it, but i have some bugs... you understand me ?07:55
bystandermarky: very light on resources07:55
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inc595this box i'm on now is a celron 366MHx overclocked to 411MHz with 362MB of ram07:55
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spanglesontoastcan I stop the gnome cups icon from running?07:55
Gentoonmaybe some program in the bg is using my sound?07:55
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dabaangelo, just state you rproblem, and if someone understands and knows how to fix it they will tell you.07:56
inc595it runs way faster then when i load gnome07:56
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markybystander: well.. maybe i'll use just 64 MB RAM07:56
graabeinhi! how do i find out which /dev/ node my ipod uses? in the etc/mtab-file07:56
markyaaah... i'm very confuseeeee T_T;07:56
angeloanyone knows how compile kadu communicator on newest ubuntu linux ? :)07:56
GentoonANy other idea's on my sound?07:57
bystanderGentoon: lsof /dev/dsp07:57
J0elwat do i use to get a screenshot in ubuntu?07:57
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bystanderGentoon: might tell you what is using it07:57
Gentoonbystander, okay done..07:57
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graabeinJ0el, printscreen button on your keyboard07:57
Navegdoes anyone know how to get ndiswrapper working with the live cd?07:57
Gentoonbystander, didn't return anything07:57
bystander:(07:57
J0elgraabien ,dosent work.07:57
Gentoonman it was working fine07:57
J0elive tried that07:57
bystanderGentoon: is sed running ?07:57
bystanderoops07:58
bystanderGentoon: I mean esd07:58
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Gentoondun think so07:58
J0elatleast nothing gets copied to the clipboard so i can paste it in gimp or something07:58
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pestilenceJ0el: "system...Take Screenshot"07:58
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graabeinJ0el, how about system > take a screen shot from the gnome menu07:58
Gentoonkillall esd returns not running07:58
angeloi do something...now i need zlib-devel library :D, where i can find it ?07:58
Navegdoes anyone know how to get ndiswrapper working with the live cd?07:58
J0eli have the 4.10 version07:59
bystanderGentoon: so run it07:59
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J0elit dosent have any option such as that07:59
graabeinanyone got ipod? it doesn't read when i plug it07:59
pestilenceangelo: apt-cache search zlib-dev07:59
GentoonIt made a sound!!!07:59
J0elany package i cud download?07:59
pestilenceangelo: probably libzlib-dev07:59
angelook, wait :)07:59
GentoonI have sound07:59
bystanderGentoon: that's what it should do...07:59
pestilenceJ0el: how about gnome-screenshot07:59
Gentoonwhy doesnt it startup by itself?07:59
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J0elin shell ?08:00
pestilenceJ0el: yes08:00
angelodon't work :/08:00
Navegdoes anyone know how to get ndiswrapper working with the live cd?08:00
mofhi all08:00
J0elmm k ill try that08:00
J0elbrb08:00
J0elon wind0ws atm :\08:00
bystanderGentoon: do you have it set to start when you log in to gnome?08:00
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Gentoonit used to do it by itself08:00
Gentooni never had to set it08:00
angeloi write this command in bash...and it's don't work...08:00
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bystanderGentoon: check the sound server settings08:01
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Gentoonwhy would i have to manually tell gnome to start esd08:01
angeloi downloading a new kernel...08:01
Gentoonhow bystander08:01
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bystanderGentoon: normally you wouldn't08:01
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bystanderGentoon: gnome-sound-properties08:02
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Navegdoes anyone know how to get ndiswrapper working with the live cd?08:02
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bystanderGentoon: "enble sound server..." check the box08:02
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bystander*enable08:02
angelohello?08:02
Gentoonit was checked08:02
bystanderhm08:03
bystander*shruG* it's a mystery08:03
devinjdhi everyone08:03
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Navegdoes anyone know how to get ndiswrapper working with the live cd?08:03
angeloi'm back08:03
Gentoonwhy do i get all the "mysteries"?08:03
dabaangelo: hehe...08:03
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angelohuh ?08:04
bystanderGentoon: is sound working now? after you ran esd?08:04
Gentoonyea08:04
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spanglesontoastcan I stop the gnome cups icon from running?08:04
Gentoonbut i dun wanna have to manually start it everytime i log in08:04
Filka    08:04
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Gentoonstill dun have the lil volume control in the sys tray08:04
bystanderGentoon: well at least if it happens again you know where to look08:05
Gentoonyea08:05
angelozlib-devel library... i need it :) but from where i can download it ?08:05
Gentoonthx08:05
devinjddoes anyone know how to make the master volume work...PCM seems to be the only thing that works08:05
devinjdand headphones08:05
Gentoonlol08:05
bystanderGentoon: it may come back if you do `killall gnome-panel`08:05
pestilenceangelo: sudo apt-get install zlib1g-dev08:05
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Navegdoes anyone know how to get ndiswrapper working with the live cd?08:06
dabaangelo: how come you are building from sourcewhen there are debs right on the site?08:06
pestilenceangelo: you can search for packages with "apt-cache search <search term>"08:06
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angelodebs are working on ubuntu ?08:06
bystanderGentoon: else right click the panel and see if you can add it08:06
pestilencefor example, apt-cache search zlib produces the library you want08:06
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Gentooni tried to add it, nothing happens08:06
goldfishNaveg: Have you downloaded it?08:07
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bystanderGentoon: did you try killall gnome-panel? It will regenerate the panel08:07
Gentoonrestarting it doesnt bring it back either08:07
Gentooni tried08:07
bystanderOK08:07
Gentoonman wtf08:07
dabaangelo: they are not actually on the site, you would have to get the packages from somewhere, there is a list of which are needed, maybe in the backports, let me see.08:07
dabaangelo: &, yeah, they work:-/08:08
Naveggoldfish: i have no internet access, and need to get ndiswrapper up to use my wireless card08:08
angeloo man....08:08
angeloi'm best :D08:08
JOELpestilence, Gnome-screenshot ,dosent work08:08
angelosorry, but i'm newbie08:08
goldfishNaveg: Oh right.08:08
angeloi didn't know...08:08
Gentoonman sound08:08
pestilenceGentoon: No manual entry for wtf08:08
Gentoonlol08:09
Naveggoldfish: any ideas? i have the ndiswrapper source on a floppy, so i can compile it if i somehow get the linux headers etc....08:09
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Naveggoldfish: the required packages arent on the livecd though08:09
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goldfishNaveg: ah :/08:09
goldfishhmmm.08:09
rg58smahii08:09
rg58smacan i move my /home to another partition????08:09
goldfishNaveg: can u not plug the laptop onto the ethernet and apt-get it?08:09
mattlaceyrg58sma: you just have to change it in your /etc/fstab, i think08:10
pestilenceJOEL: don't know.  you could install ksnapshot.08:10
markypestilence: i've download that rc.firewall08:10
Gentoonthis is a weird prob08:10
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Gentoonall i want is sound to work08:10
pestilenceJOEL: but that might involve installing a large part of kde08:10
Gentoonlets try this08:10
JOELksnapshot is for kde i belive...08:10
markypestilence: is it just 71.3 KB ?08:10
rg58smaok08:10
rg58smathanks08:10
JOELyea08:10
Naveggoldfish: i would if i could08:11
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goldfishNaveg: ah i see, sorry.08:11
goldfishhmm.08:11
Naveggoldfish, i'm on a desktop a few floors about my router08:11
J0elneways how do i update the packages i have?08:11
goldfishNaveg: Right.08:11
J0elapt-get -- ?08:11
goldfishJ0el: apt-get upgrade ?08:11
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J0eloh ok08:11
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dabaangelo, how do you get a nick for gadu?08:11
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angeloyou must register, then you be have a number...08:12
J0elafter givin that command , iget this08:12
J0elReading Package Lists... Done08:12
J0elBuilding Dependency Tree... Done08:12
J0el0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.08:12
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J0elit supposed to retrive the lists right?08:12
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angeloi suggest you, download original gadu-gadu client, then register and then configure kadu...08:12
bystanderJ0el: so you are up to date on what you have installed08:12
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J0elbut mines a pretty old version08:13
J0elits the warty hedgehog one08:13
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rg58smahow to kill an aplication08:13
rg58sma??08:13
funkykill08:13
funkyman kill, man killall08:13
angeloclick close :P08:13
pestilenceJ0el: you have to change your /etc/apt/sourcs.list to upgrade to hoary08:13
lokkillall nameofapp or kill -9 PID08:13
goldfishNaveg: Suppose you'll have to build from source, but i'm just a newb really, dunno about what kernel headers..  etc.. you'll ned.08:13
bystanderJ0el: if you want a full update, try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade08:13
goldfish*need08:13
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gentoonhrm08:14
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J0elim on dial-up how long wud hat take me?08:14
J0elthat*08:14
devinjdanyone know anything about getting the master volume to work?08:14
gentoonsound is there when i reset but no volume icon08:14
bystanderJ0el: too long08:14
pestilencea long long time :)08:14
J0ellol i guessed :\08:14
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bystanderJ0el: stick with warty until you get a hoary disc08:14
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J0elwell my music player wont work either ,it says mp3 plugin not installed08:14
gentoonman there has to a better mp3 player out there08:15
gentoonone that can scan dir's08:15
J0elbystander i need some music! :|08:15
goldfishmp3blaster is the best one.08:15
jodecan someone help me?08:15
goldfishITS COMMAND LINE!08:15
bystanderJ0el: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad08:15
shawarmagentoon, How about rhythmbox?08:15
J0elhrm k ill try that08:15
gentoonit looks so bad08:15
rg58smahow to kill an aplication??08:15
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goldfishdevinjd: tried alsamixer?08:15
bystanderJ0el: that will allow playing mp3 with music player08:15
shawarmajode, just ask your question.08:15
IIIEarsJ0el - Hoary is a large step forward.08:15
goldfishrg58sma: open a terminal, 'killall nameOfapp'08:15
J0eloh ok08:15
J0eluhuh k k08:16
angelomy ubuntu didn't see a ntfs partitions :( why ?08:16
J0elive ordered the cds ,just hopin to get them08:16
J0el:\08:16
devinjdgoldfish: yeah, everything looks okay...all sound works, i just want to be able to control my volume w/o having to use PCM08:16
syndJ0el, i ordered CDs over a month ago.. ive yet to get them08:16
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nac1515does anyone know a mp3player, that supports library like winamp does?08:16
jodeI am trying to install JRE, and when I put in the commands it saysno such file or directory can be found". I have the file on my desktop08:17
syndnac1515, XMMS08:17
goldfishnac1515: xmms ?08:17
nac1515doesnt have library08:17
J0elBystander on doing aptget ......08:17
goldfishor beep-media-player ?08:17
J0eli get08:17
J0elReading Package Lists... Done08:17
J0elBuilding Dependency Tree... Done08:17
J0elE: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-mad08:17
markyrg58sma: run winamp via Wine :)08:17
mofangelo, did you edit your fstab ?08:17
goldfishJ0el: Have you added the extra repositories?08:17
nac1515ok, thx08:17
mephihi, where can i find germanspeaking ubuntu channel?08:17
bystanderJ0el: you need the universe repo08:17
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bystander! restricted08:17
syndnac1515, Winamp Classic and XMMS is quite alike. unless you are talking about winamp 508:17
ubotuI heard restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats08:17
angelomof, no08:17
bystanderJ0el: read the bot's URL08:17
bystanderubotu08:18
J0elgoldfish , bystander pls xplain i dont undertand :|08:18
markyrg58sma: run Winamp via Wine08:18
mofangelo, you have to08:18
nac1515i dont know abour winamp3 but i know 3 suppports a library function, that i cant find on xmms08:18
mofany experiences with linux ?08:18
angelohow ? [very newbie...] 08:18
rg58smawhat???08:18
gentoonshawarma, rhytm box after i tell it the dir my music is in, it adds like 10 files and just hangs saying it is loading music08:18
rg58smafir what??08:18
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Pop_pa_FrEaKgentoon, I use amarok myself08:18
markyrg58sma: wrong person, sorry >_<"08:19
J0eli hope , the nxt ubuntu is a lil less trouble :\08:19
goldfishJ0el: www.ubuntuguide.org08:19
devinjdi use Crossover office to run iTunes08:19
J0elhmm08:19
devinjdworks well08:19
bystanderamarok is currently the most sophisticated player08:19
goldfishJ0el: Go to addinig repositories section.08:19
syndJ0el, hoary is no touble for most08:19
mofok, open the /etc/fstab with an editor (gedit) as root or sudo gedit from terminal08:19
synddevinjd, ??08:19
mephiis there only this channel on freenode irc ??08:19
mofdo it08:19
J0eluhuh , here i cant even configure wine08:19
Pop_pa_FrEaKJ0el, ubuntu is the easiest distro I've found so far and I've used alot fo them08:19
emrysk#ubuntu-devel exists, too08:19
J0eli have either this missing or that08:19
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bystandermephi: hah - there are hundreds08:19
mephimy list command doesent work08:19
mephiim looking for german ubuntu channel :)08:20
markyis there a guide how to build an ubuntu based server ?08:20
devinjdsynd, it's kind of slow and it's not free but it gets the job done nonetheless08:20
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bystander#ubuntu-de08:20
mephithx08:20
Eliteforcehmm i always have to start synaptic 2 times! the first time it "works" and disappears then, on the second start it works well!08:20
markythe forum say i'll find it in how to's ?08:20
devinjdi can run Office applications w/ it too08:20
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angelomof - ok, what now ?08:20
hans__is there a way to connect to the internet via usb?08:20
synddevinjd, what do you have it running on (specs)08:20
mofdid open it as root ?08:20
reagleBRKLNi can't install juk. Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libt/libtunepimp/libtunepimp-bin_0.3.0-2ubuntu5_i386.deb  Size mismatch08:20
goldfishmarky: check ubuntulinux.org maybe... might find something in the wiki section....08:20
reagleBRKLNwhy would it fail?08:21
angeloyep08:21
danboidWhy is it that I can only sometimes write to my USB pendrive under kubuntu Hoary?08:21
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rg58smaok08:21
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rg58smacant i move mi /home directoru to another partition??08:21
markygoldfish: i've search through it..08:21
rg58smahow to??08:21
goldfishmarky: hmmm ...08:21
mofwhich partition is your ntfs os08:21
markygoldfish: just find, how to install server on low end machine, but ..08:21
devinjdsynd, im running an AthlonXP-M 1.8Ghz, 512MB RAM08:22
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markygoldfish: no firewall or DNS etc08:22
markygoldfish: i've mailed the writer but no replies :(08:22
danboidwhat are the correct fstab/mtab settings for a USB pendrive, or is there a script to vanquish all my hoary drive woes in one?08:22
goldfishmarky: i see, well, you could set up itables, to firewall..08:22
devinjdnow if only i could find out a way to get my master volume to work...08:22
markygoldfish: iptables?08:23
synddevinjd, is crossover in the apt? (sorry, id check but im at work and not on my ubuntu machine)08:23
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lonewolffhey, has anyone managed to get a ati M7 (mobility radeon 7500) to have working tv out?08:23
reagleBRKLNi can't install juk. Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libt/libtunepimp/libtunepimp-bin_0.3.0-2ubuntu5_i386.deb  Size mismatch. why would it fail in this way?08:23
goldfishmarky: yeah....08:23
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markygoldfish: someone tell me to use the rc.firewall  (http://projectfiles.com/firewall/)08:23
angelomof - i have hda - ext3, discette and cd-rom, there are no ntfs...08:24
hans__is there a way to connect to the internet with an usb cable instead of a network cable??08:24
mofangelo, in terminal --> sudo fdisk -l08:24
markygoldfish: well, i've just install it and i don't know how to configure itu >_<"08:24
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devinjdsynd, no it's a third-party app by codeweavers08:24
humanprototypeerm08:24
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humanprototypei cant actually login08:24
markygoldfish: it's just a script maybe (>70 KB file)08:24
synddevinjd, ah i see.08:25
goldfishmarky: yeah, u edit the script, put in your rules...08:25
goldfishmarky: I've not used it myself, might be a howto on the forums...08:25
angeloi write - nothing is doo...08:25
humanprototypecan somebody help? my computer cant read my /home/harry/.ICEauthentication file (i think thats its name)08:25
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humanprototypeand therefore i cant login - im currently running on live cd08:26
synddevinjd, do you use the standard version of crossover office?08:26
markygoldfish: my... you're right, i forget to edit it08:26
bystanderhumanprototype: remove the file and login again - and don't run apps as root in X08:26
mofwith sudo ?08:26
devinjdsynd, yes08:26
markygoldfish: i thinked that's an executable file, so can't be edited ^^;08:26
anteSometimes when I install packages Synaptic asks for the ubuntu cd... why?08:26
goldfishmarky: hmmm.08:26
humanprototypebystander: is that what does it? running apps as root?08:26
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goldfishmarky: have a google ono how to set it up maybe...08:26
goldfish*on08:26
bystanderante: comment the Cd out in /etc/apt/sources.list08:26
[koji] ante: is it in your repo?08:26
mofangelo, sudo fdisk -l08:26
humanprototypeante: the ubuntu cd has packages on it so it counts as a source08:26
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markygoldfish: no no, i mean, it can be edited08:27
angeloi have08:27
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synddevinjd, the main thing i want to know is.. does the crossover office itunes support LAN sharing of music?08:27
angelook i have some list of partition tables08:27
markygoldfish: i just forget :))08:27
angelowhat now ?08:27
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bystanderhumanprototype: changes the owbership of the file08:27
goldfishmarky: ah right..08:27
markygoldfish: thanx anyway08:27
bystander*ownership08:27
mofwhere is your ntfs08:27
anteHumanpro. ok thanks.. just wondered..08:27
ZoohouseHow do I tell apt to also download 32bit packages?08:27
humanprototypebystander: ok, thanks, where can i find the file im m on live cd or will i have to login using the terminal?08:27
amadeusCan not load module snd_cd4236. Someone Crystal 4237B running?08:27
dabaante: there is a file that tells apt-get/synaptic where to download files from, the file is at /etc/apt/sources.list the first line in it is the CD likely, and if you put a # in front of it then it will not look there any more.08:27
mofangelo, /dev/hda?08:27
synddevinjd, i have all my music on another Mac within my network and would love to be able to stream music from it to my linux machine08:27
devinjdsynd, yes it does, it's just like in windows...im not sure about iPod support but I do know for a fact that I can see my friends library from it08:27
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Eliteforcehmm i always have to start synaptic 2 times! the first time it "works" and disappears then, on the second start it works well!08:28
bystanderhumanprototype: in a terminal, do sudo rm ~/.ICEauthority08:28
synddevinjd, oh, nice!08:28
humanprototypecan I just "sudo chown harry /home/harry/.ICEauthntication"08:28
angeloyep, i have dev/hda from 1 to 908:28
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antedaba.. Synaptic doesnt ask for my cd all the time.. just sometimes08:28
bystanderhumanprototype: yes, that should do it too08:28
anteits not a problem for me.. I just wondered why08:28
humanprototypebystander: ok, then will it auto create a new one when I login?08:28
mofand which of them is ntfs08:28
bystanderhumanprototype: chown harry:harry08:28
synddevinjd, cnet predicts that apple might write an itunes for linux, although i highly doubt they would do that.08:28
bystanderhumanprototype: yup08:28
runedudeI have a question, what's Breezy?08:29
humanprototypebystander: ok, brilliant - ill try chowning it if not it can go in the bin, thanks08:29
angelomof - hda1, hda 5,6,7,808:29
dabaante: anyhow, this is my sources.list, it has all the ubuntu places where to look for files: www.mts.net/~danb/sources.list and, it does it sometimes cause other times it has teh files on the net...some are only on the cd cause you probably do not have all the repositories enabled.08:29
humanprototyperunedude: the next version of ubuntu08:29
runedudeoh, is it out?08:29
bystanderhumanprototype: just blow it away - it's easier :)08:29
humanprototyperunedude: not yet, but in less than 6 months...08:29
humanprototypebystander: ok, cool, thanks08:29
runedudeoh, then how come it says "dont use it"08:30
devinjdsynd, yeah that seems highly doubtful...a linux native iTunes would be great though08:30
antedaba I have all enabled except the security repositories08:30
humanprototyperight, im off then, thanks bystander, ill be back if it all goes wrong...08:30
dabamaybe some from there are on the cd then...08:30
devinjdsynd, Rhythmbox just doesnt cut it08:30
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bystanderrunedude: because it is broken in weird and wonderful ways08:30
mofangelo, under 'ID' are some figures08:30
dabaivoks.08:30
devinjdsynd, although it is a baby step in the right direction08:30
anteok08:30
angelosomethink like 7 or 83 ?08:31
runedudebut if you cant download breezy, then.. how come err.. they say not to use it?08:31
Juhazjust as great as the windows "native" version, which royally sucks?08:31
angeloand f08:31
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bystanderrunedude: I told you08:31
ZoohouseHow do I tell apt to also download 32bit packages?08:31
runedudehow do you download it?08:31
J0elYo, goldfish im on the last step08:31
bystanderrunedude: it's early in the release cycle still08:31
runedudeoh08:31
runedudeyou cant try it out on a spare box?08:31
J0elwell i get an error08:31
J0elroot@DaBOX:/ # gpg --armour --export 1F41B907 |  apt-key add -08:31
J0elbash: apt-key: command not found08:31
J0elgpg: [stdout] : write error: Broken pipe08:31
J0elgpg: [stdout] : write error: Broken pipe08:31
J0elgpg: iobuf_flush failed on close: file write error08:31
mofangelo, yes08:31
bystanderrunedude: DON't use breezy unless you enjoy pain08:32
anteI must say I love everythiong about beep-player!08:32
mofmaybe 87 or 8608:32
runedudei do enjoy pain :)08:32
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rg58smasomeone knows a good server to create my webpage free??08:32
synddevinjd, for sure. I dont do downloading music with my linux machines (i have all my music on one Mac, and use that to download). All i really* care about is being able to stream that music from that Mac to my Linux boxes. I know rendezvous is supported because I have an apple airport express wireless router and all my linux boxes detect and print wirelessly.08:32
antemuch much better looking than xmms =)08:32
J0elwhat am i doing wrong?08:32
trig_hello08:32
Zoohouserg58sma: Apache08:32
angelo83, f, 7, what now ?08:32
bystanderJ0el: for a start, please don't paste in the channel08:32
syndJuhaz, iTunes does not suck.08:32
Juhazsynd, yes it does08:32
trig_has anyone here used cinelerra on ubuntu08:32
mofangelo, what is under 'System' ?08:32
rg58smaok08:33
syndJuhaz, explain08:33
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J0elbystander ,sorry abt that08:33
J0eli wont again.08:33
rg58smabut where is the direction'08:33
angelohpfs/ntfs or ext308:33
devinjdsynd, yeah you should definitely check out this program then...08:33
ZoohouseHow do I install a deb file I just downloaded?08:33
Zoohouseapt-get install <path> ?08:33
mofshow the line with ntfs08:33
agentZoohouse, or dpkg -i <path>08:33
runedudebystander: where can I get breezy?08:33
bystanderZoohouse: sudo dpkg -i <package>08:33
agentZoohouse, and remember to use sudo :D08:33
Juhazsynd, it's slow as hell and doesn't work like it should on the platform, not to mention ugly08:33
Zoohousethanx08:34
bystanderrunedude: don't08:34
runedudebystander: let me, pleasee:)08:34
runedudeI just want to try it.08:34
devinjdJuhaz, what is it that iTunes is lacking?08:34
syndJuhaz, itunes ran quite well when i used windows back on my Celeron 1.7 512DDR08:34
runedudeI can always remove it, and im gonna put it on a shitty box08:34
angelomof - /dev/hda5             511         816     2457913+   7  HPFS/NTFS08:34
bystanderrunedude: then take your quest to the Great Google08:34
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runedudebystander: ok08:34
syndJuhaz, and how should it "work like it should on the platform"08:34
synd?08:35
we2byrunedude, u on Ubuntu too?08:35
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mofangelo, is xp the first os you installed on your machine ?08:35
runedudewe2by: windows atm, but im using a ubuntu server08:35
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angeloyep, second ubuntu08:35
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runedudebystander: i can just apt-get update to new packages for breezy, or do I have to redownload?08:36
ZoohouseI get this error: "package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)"  So I cant install 32bit apps on my 64bit box?08:36
mofwhat is the line after /dev/hda108:36
Zoohouseim sure there is a way08:36
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zkruwanyone know how to reset the mysql password if you dosent know it :)?08:36
Juhazsynd, are you trying to, with a poker face, claim to me that iTunes (and qt, with which it shares the alienity) does not feel out of the place on win32?08:36
humanprototypebystander: it worked! Thanks. How do I avoid doing it? Is it just not running any programs as root?08:36
humanprototypelalalalalala08:36
angelomof - /dev/hda2             511        4854    34893180    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)08:36
Zoohousezkruw: Someone might know at #Mysql08:37
mofhda1 angelo08:37
synddevinjd, one day i was in here and this guy was bashing itunes and i was like whats bad about it? and he replied "you can only play music you buy from the iTunes music store on iTiune"08:37
bystanderhumanprototype: pretty much : or changing users in general08:37
syndiTunes(08:37
synddevinjd, i just said "i rest my case" after that08:37
devinjdsynd, hahaha08:37
humanprototypebystander: does that mean I cant "sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf" or edit stuff like that?08:37
angelo/dev/hda1   *           1         510     4096543+   7  HPFS/NTFS08:37
angelo[sorry :)] 08:37
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devinjdsynd, so he wasnt too bright i take it08:37
mofthis is your xp08:37
ZoohouseHow can I install a 32bit package in my 64bit box?08:37
synddevinjd, apparently not, haha.08:38
bystanderhumanprototype: you can, but it's better to do "gksudo gedit"08:38
raDeonwtf i come home from school08:38
humanprototypebystander: whats the gksudo do?08:38
raDeonand my xchat tab for this channel is always blue08:38
anteZoohouse... I think you can do it without any problems08:38
angelomof yep08:38
mofangelo, now in terminal 'sudo mkdir /mnt/windows08:38
raDeonyou fuckers are always talking about me behind my back!08:38
angelook08:38
bystanderhumanprototype: graphical pasword dialog08:38
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bystander*password08:38
Fator_DeeraDeon: ZOMG1 :-o hows that possible!08:38
humanprototypebystander: so its safe to use gksudo where needed but not just sudo?08:38
bystanderhumanprototype: ffs - try it and see !08:38
raDeondon't mess with me factor, i'll bus you up08:38
bystanderhumanprototype: heh08:39
angelook, i done it08:39
angelowhat now ?08:39
Zoohouseante: I get this error when running 'dpkg -i': package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)08:39
Fator_DeeraDeon: hah08:39
humanprototypebystander: ok, cool, thanks for the help08:39
mofsudo gedit & and open /etc/fstab08:39
gentoonoot@Gentoon:/home/gentoon # esd08:39
gentoonALSA lib pcm_direct.c:203:(make_local_socket) connect failed: /tmp/alsa-dmix-11346-1117736493-156058: Connection refused08:39
gentoonALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:898:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to connect client08:39
klaymanyone have gepolabo installed on ubuntu?08:39
bystanderhumanprototype: ;-)08:39
syndJuhaz, of course it feels "out of place". if you remember back when the iPod was first released, it was a Mac only gadget. but the success of the iPod had windows users screaming for windows compatible iPod, so therefore they ported iTunes over to windows.08:39
thenostradamusu have to get the 65-bit package08:39
gentoonman my sound is screwed08:39
thenostradamus64**08:39
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devinjdso like, does anyone know how to get the master volume control to work? only PCM works for me08:40
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syndJuhaz, iTunes was not written for the primitive win32, it was written for OS X.08:40
angelook, what now ?08:40
gentoonanyoe good with sound stuff?08:40
anteZoohouse.. aha.. thought you could install 32bit software on 64 systems..08:40
angelocopy line with os xp ?08:40
Zoohouse:(08:40
anteZoohouse..  dont think I can help u though08:40
Juhazsynd, iPod is it's own gadget, it doesn't need to be compatible with any other interface because it doesn't run in the middle of them08:40
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dockanedoes anyone know a vectorbased drawing app ?08:40
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bystanderdockane: inkscape08:41
syndJuhaz, you're missing my point.08:41
Zoohouseante: All I want to do is install libdvdcss08:41
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Juhazsynd, no, I'm not, just I disagree08:41
syndJuhaz, iTunes was not designed for win32. nuff said08:41
anteZoohouse.. ok.. and Synaptic doesnt work?08:41
dockanebystander, will have a look. thnx.08:41
Juhazindeed it was not. which is why it sucks on win32. nuff said.08:41
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syndJuhaz, lol08:41
mofangelo, no -- this < /dev/hda1  /mnt/windows  ntfs  auto,defaults  0 0 >08:41
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eliteforcehi08:42
Juhazand it would not be designed for linux either, and would suck there as well08:42
Zoohouseante: nope. I have all the repos that ubuntuguide.org says08:42
antehmm ok.. sry I cant help u08:42
angelo:>:>:>08:42
Zoohouseante: i do a search and dont find the file08:42
bystanderZoohouse: try libdvdcss208:42
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mofangelo, done ?08:42
syndJuhaz, just the fact that an App was not first designed for a certain OS, does not mean it sucks simply because of that.08:43
Zoohousebystander: tried that also08:43
bkinmananyone here familiar with configuring mysql in ubuntu? i cant for the life of me connec tas user bkinman08:43
antemaybe if I had a 64bits system I would know better .. sorry08:43
angelook, i've done08:43
angelowhat now ?08:43
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gentoonbloody sound08:43
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gentooncan someone help me get my sound back08:43
Zoohousebystander, ante: I see the file here: http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-extras/restricted/binary-i386/ but not in the 64bit section08:43
gentooni cant kill esd and i cant start it08:43
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angeloyep08:43
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Juhazsynd, that in itself would not, but the fact that it wasn't adapted in the slightest to fit in usually does08:43
Juhazsynd, if I'd want to run OS X, I'd run OS X, I DON'T want other people to decide whether or not my desktop is "primitive" and "help" the situation by populating it with something that looks and behaves totally different that everything else08:43
eliteforcestrange my eyes start hurting after a few hours sitting in front of my ubuntu ^^ if i look at the monitor from 10cm distance i can see it "flicker" a bit08:44
bystanderZoohouse: ah 64 bit - I don't know if there is a libdvdcss for that08:44
gentoonsynd, have any ideas bout mah sound?08:44
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Zoohousebystander: i dont think so, but why wouldn't I be able to install the 32bit one?08:44
angelomof - anything alse ?08:44
mofangelo, save it and then sudo mount /mnt/windows08:44
angelook08:44
danbgentoon: shunae thadabin 'soond' laddae? :)08:44
bystanderZoohouse: you would need a chroot (this isn't windows XP)08:44
angelook, ive done08:45
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syndJuhaz, i can name a billion apps that are avail for win32 that "looks and behaves" totally different than everything else.08:45
Zoohousebystander: what do you mean?08:45
gentoondanb, what?08:45
danbI'm looking for a sum1 moderately experienced avec fstab unt mtab pleez!08:45
markyeliteforce : same here08:45
mofangelo, do you see your xp08:45
bystanderZoohouse: google "linux amd64 chroot debian ubuntu"08:45
eliteforcemarky: it makes me sick! :)08:45
syndJuhaz, youre too hung up on the design interface of iTunes, thats all.08:45
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shawarmadanb, What's the problem?08:46
Juhazsynd, I never claimed those apps don't suck just as much08:46
markyeliteforce: lol08:46
danbgentoon: sounded like you were going for faux scottish so I was suggesting improvements08:46
shawarmadanb, And speek pr0p3rly pleez.08:46
anteI wish there were some nice skins for Gaim out there.. =(08:46
angelomof - theoritecally....but i can enter into the folder...08:46
markyeliteforce: my monitor actually can go up to 72 Hz but i can't make it here on ubuntu08:46
gentoonI just want a sound server08:46
gentoonone that works08:46
syndJuhaz, how exactly does iTunes suck so bad? besides your opinion that its "ugly"08:46
markyeliteforce: in windows, no prog08:46
markyeliteforce: in windows, no problem08:46
eliteforcemarky: hehe i have a tft with 60 hz08:47
angelowrite "can acces the folder" or something...08:47
djpcan somebody tell how to set a script to run at boot time?08:47
eliteforcemarky: and on windows this 60hz look good08:47
eliteforcereally good08:47
markyeliteforce: my... tft08:47
anteI could never stand such bad resolution frequency!08:47
markyeliteforce: it is your eyes maybe lol :))08:47
djpthe script i want to setup is mentioned here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34740&page=1&pp=10&highlight=bluetooth08:48
mofangelo, append in fstab after 'defaults' umask=0000 like this     <defauts,umask=0000>08:48
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eliteforcemarky: haha ;)08:48
pestilencelcd's and crt's don't work the same way.08:48
devinjdsynd, Juhaz, iTunes is different, that's what makes it a great media library...i mean, look at the other things out there: WMP, Winamp 5, Realplayer, MMJB...they all have design and implementation quirks that iTunes does not have08:48
danbOK, so when I delete the entrys in mtab/fstab for my flash drive, reboot, plug in drive, a new entry appears in mtab and the drive is being mounted ro when I want rw. Whaddya do??08:48
angelomof ok08:48
markyeliteforce: do you know where to edit the conf files so i can set it 72 Hz08:48
markyeliteforce: i'm getting sick see this 60 Hz thing >_<"08:49
syndJuhaz, smart playlists, party shuffle, wireless streaming to a home stereo, integrated internet radio, library sharing within LAN, ability to burn CD/MP3 CD/Data CDs08:49
eliteforceit doesnt matter if crt's or tft's dont work the same way, but the monitor should work on win / ubuntu the same way08:49
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pestilencea crt at 60 Hz will hurt your eyes.  a LCD at 60 Hz should work fine.08:49
eliteforcemarky: xorg.conf08:49
syndJuhaz, theres tons of shit iTunes does that winamp cannot touch08:49
angeloi enter into the folder with console...08:49
eliteforceok lcd, whatsoever08:49
angelobut i can't enter with graphics interface....08:49
Juhazsynd, as already stated, it looks and feels totally different, if you can't believe that might be sufficient reason for someone, well, that's up to you08:49
{JuNk}Phreakanyone running ubuntu amd64 and installed enemy territory ?08:49
Juhazand it _was_ slow, perhaps it's better now08:49
pestilenceeliteforce: what is wrong with in ubuntu?08:49
eliteforcei mean the rectangle where u can see the mouse and the other stuff on my notebook :D08:50
mofangelo, now in terminal <sudo mount -a>08:50
markypestilence: the 60 Hz monitor hehehehehe08:50
Juhazthe first released version took better part of a second to switch a track on 2200+08:50
angelook08:50
syndJuhaz, yeah, and linux looks and feels totally different from windows. but i think we all here agree that linux kicks windows ass.08:50
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eliteforcepestilence: the screen "flickers"08:50
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eliteforcebut you hardly can see that08:51
markyeliteforce: where's the location08:51
markyeliteforce: iv08:51
angelook, what now ? i can enter with console...but with gui no....08:51
eliteforcemarky: man xorg.conf :P08:51
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markyeliteforce: yeah.. but i forget where the file is >_<"08:51
Juhazsynd, on it's own, yes, but I'm not all that fond of most win32 ports of Linux apps either, they feel alien too, though usually somewhat less so than itunes08:51
devinjdcan anyone help me out with a volume control issue?08:51
eliteforcemarky: rtfm08:52
danbI'm frankly stunned that no-one here knows how to get a flash drive working properly :(08:52
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humanprototypedanb: i just plugged mine in and it worked08:52
mofangelo, in doubt reboot08:52
markyeliteforce: i'm reading now...08:52
syndJuhaz, saying a program sucks just because the way it looks rather than its functionality or usability is quite ignorant.08:52
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eliteforcemarky: excellent08:52
danbhuman: mine did too, SOMETIMES. Now I can't write jack08:53
angelook, i try08:53
angeloi also install the kadu...but i don't know where it is :)08:53
humanprototypesynd: I still like all my programs to fit in together so I try to avoid kde apps etc08:53
Juhazsynd, the feel is significant part of usability, going against every normal rule doesn't exactly make stuff easy to use08:53
pestilencedanb: when you say you can't write, do you mean you copy stuff to the drive, take it to another machine, and it's not there?08:53
danbhuman: could you look to see what it says about sda in yr mtab/fstab please?08:53
syndhumanprototype, as do i08:53
eliteforcedoes anybody know if there's a utility (no not vim, nano etc. :) ) for configuring the whole! xorg config file?08:54
humanprototypedanb: sure, if you tell me how, im a noob08:54
bystanderJuhaz, synd - #OS-wars please08:54
shawarmaHow do you all run ssh-add? From the started programs thing in the session management thing?08:54
syndbystander, this aint no OS war08:54
mofangelo, try sudo locate <what you looking for>08:54
bystander#usability-wars or somewhere else then08:54
eliteforcemarky: did u finally find it? :)08:54
danbpestilence: I've had it working a few times, copying/deleting files off it under KDE, but most of the time I can mount/read OK but not delete/write08:54
mofor whereis prog..08:54
humanprototypecan anybody help me with sharing a printer over a network to windowx xp machines?08:55
humanprototypeim already sharing files with samba08:55
pestilencedanb: is it mounted read-only?08:55
pestilencedanb: what kind of filesystem does it carry?08:55
danbpest: vfat08:55
syndhumanprototype, do you know the IP address of the printer08:55
humanprototypesynd: its a usb printer08:55
markyeliteforce: i've find it08:56
humanprototypesynd: epson stylus cx 6600 using 6400 drivers under linux08:56
markyeliteforce: but don't understand which one to edit08:56
IIIEarsdanb - are the files writeaable?08:56
danbpest: I deleted the mtab/fstan entrys for it, but then mtab adds one when I plug it in but as ro08:56
eliteforcemarky: there's only one xorg.conf in /etc/X11 i think :)08:56
angeloit's working08:57
angelo:) yupi08:57
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markyeliteforce: well, it's X11R6 here08:57
syndhumanprototype, im not sure how to do that. i know that i have a usb printer connected to my airport wireless router and in Ubuntu's printer settings i have to it detect LAN printers08:57
pestilencedanb: so remount it as rw...08:57
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bystanderhumanprototype: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FrequentlyAskedQuestions  and scroll down to sharing printers08:57
syndhumanprototype, and that works for me08:57
danbIIIears: As I say, I've had it working under Linux but I want it setup so I can plug it in a guarantee it'll be rw, not ro and rw sometimes08:57
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markyeliteforce: nah, it's right08:58
markyeliteforce: /etc/X1108:58
danbpest: How can I make sda ALWAYS be mounted rw?08:58
mofangelo, remember this and learn it08:58
danb.. whatever I need to do here..08:58
pestilencedanb: well, you can mount it yourself.  that would guarantee it.08:59
eliteforcemarky: yes, but this path stands in the manual entry for xorg.conf08:59
eliteforceso what did u read?08:59
pestilencedanb: as far as having hal mount it automatically rw, i'm not sure.  you probably have to edit the hal configuration files08:59
humanprototypebystander: thanks again, i think i made at least some of those changes already08:59
danbpest: thats crap though,, I want to click on it and have it mounted rw. I've seen this work ya know! :)08:59
markyeliteforce: i've search in this file, and find VertRefresh08:59
danbpest: aha! Hal config files! That might be the one09:00
markyeliteforce: the value is 43-72 --> is this it ?09:00
eliteforcemarky: i  think so09:00
angelook, thanks anyone ! and very thanks to mof09:00
angeloi must reboot09:00
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angelobye09:00
mofyep09:00
pestilencedanb: you can explore the devices that hal knows about by using hal-device-manager09:01
pestilencethat may help you in your quest to find the right settings09:01
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humanprototypedystander: the gksudo gedit thing didnt work but sudo gedit does...?09:01
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IIIEarspestilence - is there a tool or do you edit a flat file for HAL?09:02
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pestilenceIIIEars: i don't know of a tool, there could very well be one.  i just edited /etc/hal/ files.09:02
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mofn8 all09:03
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bystanderhumanprototype: hey, my philosophy is "whatever works for you"09:04
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IIIEarspestilence - never going to miss the windows registry - wide grin09:04
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redboarmissing that is like missing winter in Chicago09:06
pestilencehaha09:06
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redboarfor me Windows is a necessary evil at this point09:06
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pestilenceredboar: i had a dream last night that winter never ended.  boy am i glad i woke up :)09:07
dos000why do i get "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!" ?09:07
redboaryes that is a nightmare then09:07
pestilencedos000: you need the gpg keys for nerim, mayb09:07
redboaror u added backports09:07
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{JuNk}Phreakanyone running ubuntu amd64 and installed enemy territory ?09:08
dos000pestilence, if i repeat apt-get then it gets ok after several time09:08
pestilencedos000: try apt-get clean09:08
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dos000pestilence, i am still getting it ! note  i upgraded from debian testing to hoary could that be an issue ?09:10
pestilencedos000: do you have debian sources in your apt/sources.list?09:10
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hans__does anyone know the fritz!box fon wlan 7050?09:11
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jer^:o09:11
Fator_Deepestilence: winter is not that bad09:11
dos000pestilence, no totally .. ijust cut 'n paste from my laptop09:11
we2byany one has composite working with an ati radeon card with gnome?09:11
draskoi started some setup.py. It complains:  unable to open /usr/lib/python2.4/config/Makefile (No such file or directory). Is there some package tha i am missing?09:12
pestilenceFator_Dee: it's not *that bad*.  it's just not *that good* either :)09:12
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pestilence(that good that i would want it year round)09:12
raDeonWHO THE FUCK CALLED ME09:12
raDeonWHO09:12
raDeonWHO09:12
humanprototypebystander: the wiki didnt help - i had already made the changes and it still doesnt work09:12
Fator_Deepestilence: summer has it's problems too09:12
redboarin chicago winter is terrible09:12
dos000pestilence, anyway what are the steps to get gpg keys for nerim if you dont mind ?09:12
redboarit doesn't snow most of the time, it doesn't stay very cold, it just makes u miserable09:13
pestilencedos000: see http://www.ubuntuguide.org09:13
redboarI used to live in Phoenix, didn't mind summer09:13
pestilencedos000: but if you only have official ubuntu repositories in your /etc/apt/sources.list, that is not your problem09:13
we2byany one has composite working with an ati radeon card with gnome?09:14
raDeonWHO CALLED ME09:14
raDeonWHO09:14
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redboarcan anyone recommend a Yahoo messenger client *with webcam support*?09:14
IIIEarsgpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-key <keyid> ; gpg --export <keyid> | sudo apt-key add -09:15
redboarI already have gyach-e09:15
draskoi started some setup.py. It complains:  unable to open /usr/lib/python2.4/config/Makefile (No such file or directory). Is there some package tha i am missing?09:15
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dos000pestilence, i have not even universe09:15
SeroCan anyone help me out with changing my sources?09:15
Seronilbus.com/pub/linux-office.tgz09:15
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Seromt09:16
humanprototypeanbody help with sharing a printer with windows machines?09:16
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dabadrasko: maybe reading the file could help. the setup.py one, other than that, did you try getting the program you are installing through aptitude?09:16
pestilencedos000: how about apt-get install ubuntu-keyring?09:16
cmarquHi all. With the xorg-*-ubuntu21 packages from Breezy, only the KP-keys work - the others (all normal keys!) are not even seen in xev. Does anybody know what's up?09:16
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dos000pestilence, i also get this annoying thing on my laptop. however it goes away after a couple tries. but now on the server its still borking. this is kind of worrying !09:16
kman___hello09:16
kman___anybody knows why hoary backports don't work ?09:17
IIIEarsLAN Printing XP --  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP09:17
dos000pestilence, it cant authenticate keyring as well !09:17
syndkman___, cause they are mirroring them, i believe09:17
bystanderkman___: because they're on crack?09:17
humanprototypetried it thank - no help unfortunatly09:17
pestilenceright, but install it anyway.09:17
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pestilencedos000: i'm pretty sure that without ubuntu-keyring, it won't authenticate anything :)09:17
syndhumanprototype, i think thats a winxp issue, no?09:18
IIIEars!ubotu - print server09:18
ubotuIIIEars: Are you smoking crack?09:18
syndubotu, why, yes he is09:18
ubotusynd: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?09:18
syndubotu, hope not09:18
ubotusynd: Are you smoking crack?09:18
humanprototypesynd it may be i havent a clue09:18
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dos000pestilence, i did apt-get update ; apt-get clean .. and now it seems to work !09:18
pestilencedos000: good.09:19
syndbots are cheap forms of entertainmetn09:19
IIIEars!ubotu printing09:19
ubotuhmm... printing is see printer09:19
synd!network09:19
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dos000pestilence, thanks09:19
spunoutanyone know how to get my 1394 working? I seem to have the modules loaded, raw1394 ohci1394 and ieee 139409:19
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bystander! printer09:20
redboarcan ne1 recommend a Yahoo messenger client other than gyach with webcam support?09:20
spunoutthe ieee1394 says ieee1394 100408 3 raw1394,ohci1394,sbp2, Live 0xf88e700009:20
spunoutredboar, will gaim work for you?09:20
emacsendoes anyone have a source for flashplugin-nonfree?09:21
redboarnot for webcams09:21
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IIIEars!ubotu learn:"LAN Printing XP --  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP"09:21
ubotuYou are moron #1, IIIEars09:21
bystanderemacsen: it's in multiverse09:21
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emacsenbystander: not in mine...09:21
emacsendeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse09:22
dos000is anyone doing ssh tunnels ? the bummer is stopping me when i try to map multiple remote ssh servers to my localhost port because it saves localhost in the known hosts files !09:22
bystanderapt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree09:22
emacsenW: Unable to locate package flashplugin-nonfree09:22
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bystander  Installed: (none)09:23
bystander  Candidate: 7.0.25-509:23
spunoutexit09:23
peterretiefwhats breezy09:23
emacsenpeterretief: something you shouldn't use :)09:23
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bystanderpeterretief: /topic09:23
Amaranthubotu: LAN Printing XP is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP09:24
ubotuokay, Amaranth09:24
peterretiefwhats  the opic09:24
emacsenbystander: what's your multiverse line in sources?09:24
humanprototypeubotu: what are you trying to acheive?09:24
ubotuI think you lost me on that one, humanprototype09:24
humanprototypeubotu: whats your printer problem?09:24
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, humanprototype09:24
bystanderemacsen: i have several09:24
peterretiefwho wanted something on ssh tunnels?09:24
IIIEarsThanks Amaranth - The bot has worked really well. - nice. :)09:24
Amaranthit's not mine09:25
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Amaranthmine worked in the same way for learning and repeating stuff, but no one used it so i got rid of it09:25
emacsenbystander: well the one flashplugin-nonfree comes from ;)09:25
bystanderemacsen: basically each universe lins has multiverse appended09:25
humanprototypeubotu: wat are you doing?09:25
bystander*line09:25
ubotuhumanprototype: okay09:25
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bystanderhumanprototype: ubotu is the channel bot :)09:26
Amaranthhumanprototype: It's a bot.09:26
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Amaranthubotu: wat09:26
ubotuwat are you doing?09:26
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Amaranthdamnit09:26
humanprototypebystander: i worked that out after the second answer, no human can type that quick...09:26
mob_Lol09:26
Amaranthubotu: forget wat09:26
ubotuAmaranth: i forgot wat09:26
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humanprototypeamaranth: did i teach the bot a new word?09:27
Amaranthhumanprototype: I can type 50-70wpm and most of what it said could be done with tab completion so it is possible.09:27
IIIEarsAmaranth - Erm - I am a bit worried.. - Is ubotu protected by a password? - please, please, please, say yes.09:27
Amaranthhumanprototype: Yes, but I made it forget.09:27
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AmaranthIIIEars: Yes.09:27
AmaranthIIIEars: But everyone can make it learn things, relearn things, and forget things.09:28
humanprototypeamaranth: tab completetion?09:28
AmaranthIf it gets abused it goes.09:28
Amaranthhumanprototype: Type Amar and hit tab.09:28
emacsenAh. I see the problem. there's no 64 bit flash?!09:28
humanprototypeAmaranth, sweet09:28
Amaranthemacsen: Nope. Complain to Macromedia.09:28
IIIEarsBan listing again please please say yes.09:28
AmaranthIIIEars: ?09:28
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filnevwhat are specs for ubuntu?09:29
Amaranthfilnev: specs?09:29
peterretiefspectacls09:29
filnevmeaning what are the minimum requirements?09:29
mob_filnev: you can see it in the cd :P09:30
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Amaranthfilnev: the main thing is RAM09:30
Amaranthfilnev: at least 128MB, 256MB would be much much better09:30
filnev32? 64? 128?09:30
filnevoh09:30
Ali_Babai got 1024 ram :)09:30
filnevthanks09:31
filnevslackware it is then :)09:31
redboarwhy so much RAM required?09:31
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we2byany one has any luck getting composite working with ATI radeon cards?09:31
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pestilencegnome loves memory09:31
filnevIve got a dell inspiron 3000 :)09:31
filnev32 ram09:31
pestilencei am sure if you used fluxbox you could get by on 3209:31
peterretiefwhats composite i have ati radeon 720009:31
Amaranthfilnev: X is pretty much unusable with less than 128MB09:31
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we2bylooks like it's pain in the ass to get composite working with ati cards09:32
we2by:(09:32
Amaranthfilnev: You can get away with 64 though, maybe 32 in a pinch if you like to swap.09:32
pestilenceAmaranth: X is usable with far less, it's gnome that needs the ram09:32
humanprototypefilnev, setup ubuntu without gnome (server) then apt-get install fluxbox or some other lighter window manager09:32
peterretiefwhat is composite09:32
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we2bypeterretief, it is window shaow and transparency09:32
sijmen|jme-59i've read this guide on how to setup ldap, and i've installed all packages, setup all config files.. but how to test whether it works?09:32
we2byshadow*09:32
filnevI dont need X on this laptop09:32
bystanderAmaranth: umm - I have a debian box here with fluxbox that hums along on 64MB09:32
peterretiefhow to test if its working09:32
Amaranthbystander: Open Firefox09:32
Amaranthok, so it's not X, it's X applications09:33
bystanderAmaranth: heh - i use dillo ;-)09:33
Amaranthbut still, X is pretty useless without X applications09:33
we2bypeterretief, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-20769.html09:33
humanprototypeyou can just deliberatly use lighter applications09:33
pestilencefilnev: i'm not sure if the installer for ubuntu will give you a no-X option, but if it will, just go with it.09:33
humanprototypeit will09:33
humanprototypetype server at the start then press enter09:33
IIIEarsbystander dillo? - you must be an old timer.09:33
humanprototypeit does tell you09:33
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pestilencethen there you have it.09:34
bystanderIIIEars: dillo is quite an OK browser for searching and docs etc09:34
mob_filnev: if you have an old pc, you can just install ubuntu server option09:34
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bystanderIIIEars: very fast too09:34
redboarwe2by: thanks that link rocks09:34
peterretiefI just know many will find this useful http://linuxweblog.com/node/28209:35
IIIEarsbystander - true, nice to have a browser when things go wrong.09:35
we2byredboar, yea, but it doesn't work with ATI cards09:35
AmaranthIIIEars: w3m!09:35
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IIIEarsw3m? - nah elinks :P09:35
redboarNP I have NVidia :D09:35
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draskoI have proble... ImportError: No module named ogl09:36
filnevWill it install on a machine with just 32 mb ram?09:36
bystanderIIIEars: links2 run as links -g is worth a look for old boxen too (the -g gives you a graphical browser)09:36
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filnevFC3 will not09:36
redboarcan u turn off anti aliasing in gnome?09:36
IIIEarshm. - nice09:36
bkseaI need help seeing my Windows Disk09:36
redboarit gets annoying with a Treinitron monitor09:36
Amaranthredboar: System->Preferences->Font09:36
redboarTY09:37
peterretiefthe installer should autodetect low mem and revert to a cli09:37
amd664Hi, everyone. How can i update firefox to 1.04 in ubuntu 5.04?09:37
Amaranththe installer doesn't use X09:37
we2byfuck ATI09:38
we2by:(09:38
IIIEars<< - attempts masquerading links2 user agent string as IE 7.0 - lol09:38
bkseaHello, can anyone help my to see my windows disk?  I have followed faq instructions, but still cant see my files09:38
bystanderIIIEars: hahah09:38
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filnevcool thanx I will try it out!09:38
peterretiefbksea, were does it live09:38
bkseadev/hda109:39
mob_bksea: in what partition?09:39
pestilencebksea: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /your/mount/point09:39
mob_bksea: ntfs or fat32?09:39
bkseantfs09:39
redboarlater all09:40
peterretiefmkdir windows then mount /dev/had1 windows09:40
pestilencebksea: put a -o ro in there too.09:40
bystanderbksea: dev/hda1       /windows        ntfs    noauto,ro,users,umask=022 0 009:40
bystanderin fstab09:40
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muppethi09:41
raDeonidiot09:41
raDeonshut up09:41
stuNNedbystander: know how i can get a mounted ntfs windonws partition icon on the desktop?  i know i used to be able to do it in ole redhat 7.309:41
stuNNedhi muppet09:41
raDeonmount -t ntfs09:42
raDeon idiot.09:42
muppetyo09:42
raDeonmuppet, shut up09:42
raDeonidiot09:42
mob_what's wrong with raDeon ?09:42
bystanderstuNNed: I use fluxbox and have my mountpoints linked to buttons on gkrellm09:42
AmaranthraDeon: Please don't do that.09:42
raDeonwhat's wrong with mob?09:42
bystanderAmaranth: known troll09:43
raDeonoooops i obeyed proper english technics09:43
raDeonexcuse me, let me rewrite my sentence09:43
raDeonwhat's wrong with mob ?09:43
stuNNedbystander: ah ok thanks09:43
muppethey.. tell me how can i run localhost..  ifconfig shows only: eth0 eth1 ppp009:43
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stuNNedraDeon: say what?09:43
raDeonmuppet, what the hell are you talking about09:43
raDeonstuNNed, "what"09:44
muppeti know thats stupid09:44
stuNNedmuppet: what do you mean?09:44
peterretiefmuppet, run localhost09:44
muppetit newer happend to me before;)09:44
muppeti cant connect http://hocalhost09:44
stuNNedmuppet: try sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart in terminal09:44
bystanderpeople, ignore the trolls09:44
stuNNedmuppet: ah that09:44
mob_cat /etc/hosts09:45
ablyssmuppet, perhaps apache is not running09:45
peterretief!seen me09:45
ubotui haven't seen 'me', peterretief09:45
muppetit does run09:45
mob_!help09:45
ablysspeterretief's last comment was on Thursday, June 2 2005 3:45PM saying "!seen me"09:45
moyogohow do i add /usr/lib/java/bin to my system's PATH?09:45
peterretiefmoyogo, rather use ruby09:46
ablyssjust a little fun09:46
moyogopeterretief ;P09:46
mob_!uptime09:46
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peterretiefruby's too cool09:46
peterretiefRoR09:46
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stuNNedmoyogo: through your .bashrc or .bash_profile i forget which09:47
jer^hi09:47
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jer^i'm a comp noob to a fairly decent extent :D, i was wondering, will the installation/general use require me to actually know any sortof "advanced" crap?;/ or can i just click away etc, keeping to default requirements :<09:47
peterretiefmoyogo, tHink its "export /path/09:48
jer^also, when i next boot, post-install, what happens? :|09:48
pestilencejer^: just click away09:48
Fator_Deejer^: you have to know something09:48
pestilencejer^: assuming you don't care about what's ont he hard drive, just click away09:48
Fator_Deepestilence: I was hoing to mention that :-p09:48
Fator_Dee*going09:48
ablyssjer^ usually fairly simple assuming you have duplicate devices the OS will need to know which one is the prefered one09:48
moyogostuNNed, peterretief: thanks09:49
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IIIEarsubotu: gpg key is "gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-key <keyid> ; gpg --export <keyid> | sudo apt-key add -"09:49
ubotuokay, IIIEars09:49
glill32QUACK!09:49
blueyedIs "flip" the best tool to convert line endings? couldn'09:49
jer^pestilence i do care bout music/movies etc :o but ive been told09:49
we2bywhere do I search for those nvidia cards that are supported?09:49
jer^(19:48:00) <Canoun> then your windows will be untouched09:49
jer^(19:48:10) <Canoun> and all your files are at /home/jerome09:49
jer^et09:49
blueyedt find dos2unix..09:49
jer^etc*09:49
jer^so i can switch back and resume noob-usage anytime right?:/09:50
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ablysspartitioning is easy too just create a root partition "/" and format it... advanced user may want to create multiple partitions for different reasons09:50
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pestilencejer^: you will have to be a little more careful in that case.  but i have to run, i'm sure others will help09:50
we2byany one has a Nvidia card that works on linux with openGL 3d acceleration and composite and tv out?09:50
jer^ablyss, talking to me there about partitioning or?09:50
jer^ty pestilence09:50
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ablyssyes jer09:50
jer^hm09:51
Fator_Deejer^: do you have unpartitioned speca on your harddrives?09:51
dencichi09:51
Fator_Dee*space09:51
jer^i don't have any duplicate devices09:51
jer^Fator_Dee, yes09:51
Fator_Deejer^: how much?09:51
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ablyssi have duplicate devices.. such as more than one ethernet card09:51
jer^140 gig :p09:51
Fator_Deeok, that should be enough :-p09:52
jer^hm09:52
Fator_Deeubuntu's installation sees that unpartitioned space and you can say to it to use that09:52
jer^how much is "minimum"?09:52
we2byany one has a Nvidia card that works on linux with openGL 3d acceleration and composite and tv out?09:52
jer^k09:52
ablyssanything under 6gigs I would not recommend09:52
bystanderjer^: minimum for full install would be around 2Gig09:52
Fator_Deeminimum ubuntu install would be about... 2-3gigs, bare minimum server install maybe 300megs :-p09:53
glill32Ubuntu doesn't work.09:53
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Fator_Deedon't know if my guess on the server install is right though09:53
Fator_Deeglill32: it works on my comp :-p so don't generalize09:53
ablyssubuntu maynot see your windows partitions. Don't ask me why but I had edit the grub menu myself to get into my windows 9809:54
Fator_Deeit's easy though, editing grub09:54
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jer^ive not got any partitions atm anyway09:54
r1derwhere is Gftp in the menu ?09:54
jer^heh09:54
IIIEarsablyss - Ubuntu snobbery - lol09:54
Fator_Deer1der: internet?09:54
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r1derisnt there09:54
ablyssmaybe because i have 3 hard drives and 8+ partitions with 30 Gigs divided equally09:54
Fator_Deenetworking? or something similar09:54
Fator_Deeor you'r menu has to refresh09:55
r1derhow?09:55
IIIEarsablyss - yep - darn handy not to keep all of your eggs in one basket. - grin.09:55
bassplayerwhat I have to do to add a PATH on linux (i just installed java, and when i run limewire, it says there is no java on the path)09:55
bystanderfor the person looking for dos2unix - try the sysutils package which contains "tofromdos" (I think dos2unix is part of that)09:55
Fator_Deer1der: kill the panel and it should09:55
ablysslol Ears09:55
r1deris it there after reboot?09:56
Fator_Deer1der: it'll start again if you kill it09:56
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Fator_Deer1der: and if it doesn't for some reason, just run the executable and it'll come up09:57
Fator_Deebassplayer: add the path to the java-binary to ~.bash_profile09:57
Fator_Dee*~/.bash_profile09:57
bassplayerFator_Dee - how do i make it ?09:58
Fator_Deebassplayer: do you know where your java-binary is?09:58
bassplayeryeap09:58
Fator_Deeopen up the .bash_profile09:58
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bassplayerwith nano ?09:59
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Fator_Deewith any editor you want09:59
bassplayerok09:59
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Fator_Deethat doesn't matter09:59
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tbrenneri have a question09:59
tbrenneryes...a question09:59
Fator_Deethen, there is a line that starts with "PATH="09:59
tbrennermy screen rez is horribly large (640 x 480), i'd like to fix this...but i can't seem to get anymore options10:00
bassplayerok, let me see10:00
Fator_Deebassplayer: add to the end of it ":/path/to/the/directory/where/the/java/binary/is/"10:00
tbrennerno graphic drivers probably...but are there any options to fixing this?10:00
Fator_Deetbrenner: run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and specify your monitors specs to it10:01
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tbrennerthx10:01
bassplayerFator_Dee - hmmm, there's a line that says PATH=~/bin:"${PATH}"10:01
bassplayeris that ?10:02
Fator_Deebassplayer: yup, that's it10:02
bassplayerin which part do i add it ?10:02
bassplayerafter path ?10:02
Fator_Deeso it would be like PATH=~/bin:"${PATH}":/directory/to/here/10:02
bkseaPlease help.  I cannot figure out what I am doing wrong.  I have followed instructions, and mounted my windows drive, yet the made folder appears empty10:02
bystanderbassplayer: you might have better luck with "sudo gedit /etc/bash.bashrc "10:02
Fator_Deebassplayer: you start the new path with :10:02
bassplayerok, thanks a lot10:03
bystanderbassplayer: that's the system wide file10:03
pfpdo you have any suggestions for a music library/mp3 player - something like iTunes for the mac?10:03
bassplayerwhy bystander ?10:03
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bystanderbassplayer: becuse the path in that file applies for all users10:04
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bassplayerok, i'll try it10:04
muppetYeah!! : ifup lo   :)10:05
muppetthnx guys10:05
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bkseaWhen I try to mount it manually I get, already mounted or busy10:06
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cuscohi10:07
cuscowhat happend to backport?10:07
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cuscoauthorization required10:07
bkseaCan anyone help me with my mounting probleam?10:07
StR34khey10:08
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StR34kbksea, depends on the prob.10:08
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virogenesishi10:09
joe|codeHas anyone requested the Ubuntu disk from the website before?10:09
Tibalslt y a des francais ?10:09
peterretiefya10:09
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AmaranthTibal: #ubuntu-fr10:09
Tibalmerci ! :)10:09
virogenesiswhat would you say is the best dvd player for linux?10:10
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Fator_Deevirogenesis: I have an LG-GSA-4120B and it works perfectly10:12
Fator_Deethat's quite an old model though10:12
Fator_Deegah10:13
Fator_Deeor did you ask a program :-|10:13
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pfpFator_Dee: ;-)10:13
HackmoCan anyone tell me why firefox closes itself when I try to right click and save a file10:13
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thoreauputicHackmo: are you using breezy ?10:14
pfpHackmo: probably it crashes :/10:14
StR34kit could be tired.10:14
Hackmothoreauputic: no i'm using hoary10:14
virogenesiswhen i mean player i mean something like mplayer, totem.....10:14
thoreauputicOK10:14
thoreauputicvirogenesis: I like xine persoanally10:15
pfpvirogenesis: i've been happy with totem10:15
StR34kvirogenesis I use wxvlc10:15
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virogenesisyeah i just tried xine & the actual interface for the gui system reminds me of fluxbox ( i think it was i tried), totem i can't seem to get to work & same goes for mplayer10:17
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Ali_Babai use kplayer,its good also.10:17
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deviantguys, how can i make a bootable cd using K3b ?10:18
virogenesisi try to stick to gnome10:18
pfptotem might need the (deprecated by some) stuff from backports / marillat10:18
virogenesisStR34k, is wxvlc based on gtk, qt+ or what?10:18
pfptotem has an almost-sane UI, from a gnome users point of view at least10:19
we2byany one here have the geforce 6200 card on Ubuntu and working???10:19
cuscowhat happend to the backport repo?10:19
cuscoplease10:19
cuscosomeone?10:19
cuscoauthorization required10:19
philipacamaniaccusco: you have to use one the mirrors10:20
cuscowhat do you mean?10:20
thoreauputicvirogenesis: if you like the totem look, use totem-xine (the back end is xine, but hte gui is gtk2)10:20
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novaon kde for ubuntu any reason not to use it?10:20
novaand can i swap back to gnome or xfce if i decide i dont like it?10:20
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novawith out uninstallign kde10:21
thoreauputicnova: yes to all10:21
cuscophilipacamaniac: could you pass me the mirrors please?10:21
philipacamaniaccusco: see this page http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/10:21
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thoreauputicnova: but install kubuntu-desktop, not kde10:21
philipacamaniacClick on "mirrors"10:21
novayeh i know10:21
StR34kvirogenesis, gtk10:21
novacan i swap between kde and gnome or xfce in sessions menu?10:21
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Ali_Babanova: yes you can10:22
novak10:22
novathats all i wanted to know thanks10:22
Kikyo1Good day everyone10:22
virogenesiscool10:23
virogenesisthanks StR34k10:23
Kikyo1I am planning on purchasing an external HDD, but I was told that firewire is mean when using a GNU/Linux OS.. anyone know if this is true?10:23
StR34knp10:23
fishiedamn work is boring10:24
fishie:(10:24
virogenesisanyone tried  out beagle yet?10:24
devianthow can i make a bootable cd using K3b ?10:24
StR34kit will do encoding as well, but I think you have to recompile it to get mp3 support10:24
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StR34kwork is rarely enjoyable.10:24
novawow lots of files for kubuntu desktop10:25
StR34kif it was it would be called fun.10:25
fishiethis guy is babbling on about ftp10:25
nova162 lol10:25
fishiei cant log in10:25
fishiei dont care10:25
StR34khehe10:25
Kikyo1Anyone know of how well firewire would work on Ubuntu?10:25
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virogenesishehe lots of files for kde :P10:25
carthikKikyo1, very well :)10:26
deviantanyone ?10:26
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StR34kdevian I don't know... sorry.10:26
carthikdeviant, what goes in the cd? are you rtying to burn it from an image?10:26
Kikyo1carthik:  Oh, thanks. :) So that means it would be worth buying an external HDD then?10:26
StR34kdeviant*10:26
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carthikKikyo1, i have an external hdd connected to my laptop10:26
novasome times i like a eye candy from hell desk top10:27
deviantcarthik: yes. from a .iso . and it contains partition magic 810:27
novaother times things like gnome or xfce are more than enoguh10:27
Kikyo1carthik: I see, thanks alot! Now I can finally persuade my father. *giggle*10:27
novalast time i used kde was as root on a red hat box10:28
novai killed red hat full on kernal panic lol10:28
carthikdeviant, best way - right click on the iso and say create cd -- IIRC10:28
carthikif I recall correctly, sorry10:28
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deviantcarthik: if iu burn the iso to cd, it won`t boot from it ;(10:28
TycheAnyone here using Qmail?10:28
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carthikdeviant, the trick is to understand that what you need to do is not to but the iso file on the cd, but to create the cd using the iso (which is an image, which you can use to write the cd)10:29
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carthikdeviant, searching for "burning from iso using k3b" at google might be helpful10:30
virogenesishttp://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports seems to be down :(10:30
carthikdeviant - i meant to say "not to put the iso file on the cd"... sorry10:30
deviantcarthik: i`ve tried with Burn Image.10:30
IIIEarsdeviant - If you are uncomfortable using cdrecord from the commandline god knows you aren't alone - "" lol - gnomebaker is in synaptic and does a fine job.10:31
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carthikvirogenesis, try a mirror of the same : http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/url.php10:31
carthikdeviant, you mean burn FROM image, dont you?10:31
deviantIIIEars: aha , ok. i`ll try it . now i was using K3b10:31
carthikburn image might burn the image on the disc... which is not ideal10:32
herbalim installing ubuntu right now, Suse was fkkin with me bad10:32
carthikdeviant, forget k3b, if you use gnome, burn using nautlis10:32
carthiknautilus - it works for me10:32
deviantcarthik: yeah. Tools >> Cd >> Burn CD Image10:32
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novaswitchign to kde session brb10:32
carthikdeviant, sorry dude. I am out of ideas :)10:32
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herbalat first suse was great but then it started getting bad, at least my data is backed up on my external10:33
deviantcarthik: that makes 2 of us :(10:33
sorinwas anyone able to install mono 1.1.6 + monodevelop 0.7 from the debian's repository?10:33
IIIEarsdeviant - are you using the redmond OS now? - it's okay be honest - grin - try a free tool "ISO Burner Powertoy" by Alex Fienman - you could leave a couple of bucks for him via paypal if you wanted too.10:33
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carthikdeviant, lol - check the place you downloaded the cd from, or check for a readme in whatever you downloaded :)10:33
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lixoohi all - any advice on uninstalling Gnome (like should I do it?). I've got XFCE up and running and can't see me using Gnome again (although keeping some of the gnome apps would be nice)10:34
deviantcarthik: dc++ dude :P10:34
deviantIIIEars: i`m on ubuntu10:34
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herbaland the fact that ubuntu will ship disks and PAY shipping is unheard of10:34
carthiklixoo, in that case, I have heard its best to have installed ubuntu in the server mode and then add XFCE...10:34
carthiklixoo, let it stay though, you might want the gnome apps still, right?10:34
thoreauputiclixoo: xfce4 seems to use a lot of gnome stuff (like you can use the themes etc) -If you have space why not leave gnome there?10:35
carthikherbal, you heard it here!10:35
IIIEarsdeviant - gnomebaker is a walk in the park on a spring day. - really straightforward and easy to use.10:35
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lixooi'm a bit tight on space. Surely if I leave GTK installed the Gnome apps wills till be able to run?10:35
herbalxfce is cool, but i wanna try enlightenment DR17 it looks amazing10:35
virogenesishmmm why have ubuntu decided to use gnomebaker it doesn't seem to look like a mature app i'm sure there must be better cd writting software for gnome10:35
Fator_Deelixoo: yes, if you have the libraries it's ok10:36
deviantIIIEars: i`m apt-get -it right now :P10:36
virogenesischeers carthik10:36
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herbalanyone use enlightenment DR1710:36
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Fator_Deelixoo: the same thing with kde & gnome, you can use kde apps in gnome when you have the kde libraries10:36
lixoocheers guys. Say I was to try uninstalling gnome, would synaptic be the way to go about it?10:36
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user1hi i have a problem10:37
virogenesisi had e17 running a while back wasn't bad10:37
lotusleafis the new nvidia driver (released yesterday) available in backports?10:37
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herbaleyecandy from what i seen of it10:37
peterretiefinstalled ubutu +-hour ago, no probs - wireless card prism54 v2 detectd but not working - hmm10:37
herbalim lazy so installing from CVS doesent appeal to me10:38
herballol10:38
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user1I need now where put the mount carpets of network10:38
deviantIIIEars: error. damn :(10:38
IIIEarsvirogenesis - k3b is a lot more powerful. - erm but i burned a bunch of coasters before mastering it.10:38
lixoopeterretief: you configured the wireless card with iwconfig? I had some problems with this on the ubuntu live cd. Couldn't figure out how to configure for 128bit WEP10:38
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virogenesisyeah i tried k3b it was nice but when using gnome it just doesn't look right10:39
tanekdoes anyone know how i can get back my volume manager applet?10:39
IIIEarsdeviant -  Synaptic install? - 'prolly no difference but maybe....10:39
deviantIIIEars: allready install it using apt10:40
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inva|idIs there a unix command that will determine the hostname from an IP address?10:40
sidd-txpeterretief and lixoo: I had same problem with WEP. Anytime I tried making any changes with iwconfig, I got OPERATION NOT PERMITTED. I had to use a different card (Cisco).10:40
herbalmco.bellsouth.net ?10:40
Marble2Would someone walk me through setting my smb.conf so that my windows machine can view my samba share? Right now I'm getting permission errors10:41
lixoosidd-tx: hmm, i didn't get any error messages. Just no connectivity10:41
inva|idherbal: I am not looking for mine10:41
herbalinva|id, k\10:41
herbalnmap?10:41
inva|idperhaps, let me try that10:42
peterretiefsidd-tx, that would be my next q, what car to use - want to set up hostap10:42
pfpvirogenesis: kconfig lets you tweak kde apps' look-n-feel outside gnome too10:43
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sidd-txlixoo: yeah, I googled and looked through mailing lists. Basically, some functions of the card were not supported. Dunno why. Got it to work with Suse though. But just about everything works with Suse for me....10:43
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pfpoutside kde that is10:43
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herbali had suse running but eventually it REALLY started fkkin with me10:43
lixoosidd-tx: it was my work laptop so i just gave up and stuck a length of cat5 in the back :-)10:44
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sidd-txpeterretief: I got this card to work definitely: Cisco Aironet AIR-PCM35210:44
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peterretiefsidd-tx, cool thanks for the tip!!!10:45
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sidd-txlixoo: Yeah, I eventually gave up too. Especially since I could by another card known to work for $2010:45
virogenesisthanks pfp i always seem to learn more & more when coming here10:45
HaNaziris there anyway i can stop my isp from updatin my dns nameserver?10:45
IIIEars(swears off the white box taiwan "super king" card. - lol)10:46
carthikHaNazir, no, but you can use a dynamic dns service, to use a domain name that gets auto updated10:46
Marble2Would someone walk me through setting my smb.conf so that my windows machine can view my samba share? Right now I'm getting permission errors10:46
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carthikHaNazir, zoneedit.com and dyndns.info are good starting points10:46
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peterretiefHaNazir, not quite sure hat you mean10:47
stijndganyone here who could help me set up my Wireless PCMIA card (Dlink DWL-G650+) :(10:48
dooglusubuntu keeps crashing when I run "grep" :(10:48
dooglusit somehow turns the power off10:48
pfp:O10:48
HaNazirpeterretief, my isp updates my /etc/resolv.conf every now and then. i dont wan that to happen. cos the dns servers i entered are faster.10:49
sidd-txWhoa...!10:49
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dooglusit's happened 3 times now.10:49
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dooglusI'm grepping through a 17Mb file - is there a limit?10:49
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doogluspfp: I don't think so - I've tested the RAM thoroughly10:49
peterretiefHaNazir, no no how?10:50
Fator_Deedooglus: I had that same kind of trouble too, and it was the ram10:50
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thoreauputicHaNazir: so why not just echo the ones you want to the file? Maybe even a cron job...10:50
pfpdooglus: maybe motherboard then, ide bridges10:50
dooglusthe grep takes 3 or 4 minutes, during which time the CPU is flat out, and the disk is idle.10:50
dooglusI'm surprised at that - I would expect the bottleneck during a grep to be the disk access, reading the file from disk.10:51
HaNazirthoreauputic, wouldnt know how to do that. can u help me man?10:51
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lixoodooglus: deffo sounds like RAM - BIOS update?10:51
gorthaughi10:51
xvlunit takes less than 1 second to read 17MB10:51
pfpdisk is definately the b'nevk10:51
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gorthauganybody know what happend whiet backports' repositories?10:51
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gorthaug*whit10:52
dooglusnow, it's possible the 17Mb file is already cached in RAM10:52
peterretiefsometimes you get a bum install, remove and reinstall10:52
dooglusbut how long would it take to 'grep' though a 17Mb file that's in RAM?10:52
dooglusseconds?  minutes?10:52
dooglus(2.2MHz P4)10:52
thoreauputicHaNazir: easiest to just open the file in an editor and change the entries, probably: /etc/resolv.conf10:52
dooglusGHz!10:52
Tychecan I install debian packages?10:52
Tychewould hoary 5.04 be like Debian/sarge?10:53
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peterretiefdooglus, try reinstall grep10:53
confreyhi everybody10:53
HaNazirthoreauputic, i do that. i have to do that every so often though. like every 30 min. no way it can be done auto?10:53
doogluspeterretief: md5sum /bin/grep ?10:53
nufanWhen Sarge is released and Etch becomes the new unstable, will Ubuntu use Etch?10:53
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tahorgnufan: ubuntu uses ubuntu10:53
nufanSnapshot of, I mean10:53
nufantahorg: Ubuntu snapshots debian sid10:54
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tahorgnufan: for 'some' packages10:54
pfpHaNazir: /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf10:54
confreyI need help about wine; I can't start some win applications; it seems some .dll are missing, but they are ; can anybody help me?10:54
dooglusany hoary users, what is the correct md5sum of /bin/grep?10:54
nufanI thought it snapshotted most of the system10:54
herbalyay ive installed ubuntu and so far  no problems...i jus got to figure out how to get it to play my mp3's and avi's10:54
Amaranthsmeg 0.7.4 is out! woo10:54
peterretiefdooglus, its my first line of defense..... :)10:54
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doogluspeterretief: what is?10:55
thoreauputicHaNazir: just write a little script that does something like " sleep 15m && echo xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > /etc/resolv.conf"10:55
Amaranthno10:55
nufanherbai: Download most of the gstreamer libs10:55
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herbalhmmm10:55
nufanThat did it for me, I think10:55
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Fator_Deedooglus: 73e4543685960e7c8ae822e9090b462a <- mine10:55
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nufanI cant remember exactly which ones10:55
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pfpthoreauputic: ISC dhcp client can be customized, pump too but i've had experience that pump doesn't obey it's configuration10:56
herbalnufan, u know if u start typing a name, and hit tab it filles it for you10:56
thundrcleezehow do I change the workgroup I'm in?10:56
HaNazirthoreauputic, i dont know scripts :(10:56
HaNazirpfp, what do i do there?10:56
confreyI need help about wine; I can't start some win applications; it seems some .dll are missing, but they are ; can anybody help me?10:57
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herbalwow it seems ubuntu comes with a hacked version of firefox10:57
emacsenconfrey: I think you're confused about the channel you're in10:57
kvidellit's not "hacked" per se10:57
dooglusFator_Dee: thanks.  I have the same.10:58
kvidellit just has the updates from 1.0.4 implemented10:58
pfpHaNazir: if i recall correctly, put some "supersede xxx yyy" lines in there, use 'man dhclient.conf' for more10:58
thundrcleezeQuick question, what's the command to change the workgroup I'm in?10:58
herbali mean alterered, its alot faster10:58
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kvidellindeed it is.10:58
emacsenthundrcleeze: WTF is a workgroup?10:58
gorthauganybody knows  what happened with backports' repositories?10:58
herbalmine says its 1.0.210:58
kvidellgorthaug: Nothing :)10:58
thundrcleezeemacsen, like windows workgroup - for networking10:58
dooglusemacsen: it's a windows networking concept10:58
kvidellThey just have special mirrors now10:58
confreyemacsen, I'm using ubuntu; and I've installed wine from ubuntu repository; so, why can't I ask for help about it?10:58
emacsendooglus: sounds preverted10:58
emacsenconfrey: why not ask on #wine?10:59
gorthaugi've error when i try to update the apt sources...10:59
HaNazirpfp, thanx10:59
dooglusemacsen: possibly it is.10:59
thoreauputic#winehq actually10:59
thundrcleezegorthaug, check the ubuntu backports forums10:59
confreyemacsen, ok, I'll try there10:59
sTbHarld Schmitt kommt :D10:59
dooglusemacsen: are you in the plural?10:59
gorthaugoks thanks10:59
HaNazirthoreauputic, any links?10:59
pfpdooglus: debsums can be used to check files' md5 sums against your dpkg database10:59
IIIEarsconfrey - we'll help where we can. - This is Ubuntu - Humanity.10:59
kvidellgorthaug: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=37525 Information on BackPorts10:59
thundrcleezethanks kvidell.10:59
doogluspfp: oh, thanks.  I didn't know about that.11:00
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kvidellmmhmm. I'm on the forum too much :-\ I actually... have... that number and several other useful ones memorised :-\11:00
confreyIIIEars, I know, infact I ask here first11:00
thundrcleezedooglus, is it called hostname in linux?11:00
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confreyIIIEars, thanks11:00
pfpdooglus: it's handy if your server gets hax0red... which never happens ofc :/11:00
dooglusthundrcleeze: no.  hostnames in windows correspond to hostnames in linux11:01
Raquenhi, i've deleted the recycle bin.. Can I do?11:01
pfpusing sums from backup media of course :)11:01
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thundrcleezedooglus, so I need to change the hostname to connect to a windows network?11:01
Fator_DeeRaquen: could you rephrase? that didn't make any sense11:01
dooglusthundrcleeze: linux hosts don't have specific workgroups as such, i don't think.  although if you're sharing a drive using samba you'll have to tell samba what workgroup to share it in11:01
thundrcleezeI'm not sharing, just trying to connect to it.11:02
confreyIIIEars, I'm really confused about the network administration tool, I try to create a new configuration, but everytime I must enter the parameters to configure the network11:02
thundrcleezedooglus, --^11:02
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dooglusthundrcleeze: I didn't set anything about the workgroup when I installed ubuntu.  But if I click on 'places' then 'network servers' and then 'windows network', the next screen shows me the available workgroups11:02
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agunjahey there11:03
dooglusthundrcleeze: so you don't need to do any configuration then I don't think11:03
agunjahow do i disable 4K stacks?11:03
thundrcleezeyeah, but it looks like samba defaults to the workgroup MSHOME.  That's not the workgroup I have all the other computers configured at.11:03
Amaranthagunja: I think that takes a kernel recompile.11:03
IIIEarsconfrey - no luck here with wine (sigh) had to get a subscription to cedega instead. - wine was a huge PITA11:03
thundrcleezeagain, dooglus --^11:03
peterretiefwhy does the install go crazy with dhcp, why not run nmap -sP 192.etc find an unused ip then set it up??11:03
thundrcleezepeterretief, what's wrong with dhcp?11:04
dooglusthundrcleeze: how are you trying to connect to the shared drives?11:04
thundrcleezedooglus, yes.11:04
peterretiefits fine if you use it11:04
thundrcleezedooglus, oh, misread11:04
dooglusheh :)11:04
thundrcleezedooglus, places --> network servers11:04
llebergsdr.. 0.8x iaf11:05
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dooglusthundrcleeze: did you enable a firewall?  windows networking doesn't work for me if the firewall is enabled.11:05
IIIEars!ubotu samba11:05
Amaranthubotu: samba11:05
Amaranthnice, flood prevention works11:05
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Amaranthubotu: samba11:05
Amaranthtoo bad it goes to PM11:06
Amaranthcafuego: The limit on lines before sending to PM needs to be longer.11:06
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peterretief!seen thundercleese11:06
ubotui haven't seen 'thundercleese', peterretief11:06
DesiGuyi've always read about re-compiling the kernel, but how do i go about doing that?11:06
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Amaranthpeterretief: Doesn't do that, afaik.11:07
AmaranthOh, maybe it does.11:07
AmaranthI thought he had that turned off.11:07
peterretief!seen thundrcleese11:07
ubotupeterretief: i haven't seen 'thundrcleese'11:07
Amaranthpeterretief: PM the bot please.11:07
thoreauputicAmaranth: can the bot do replies? like just echo back what you teach it rather than "from memory foo is... " ?11:07
we2bycan u watch NTSC and PAL dvd on ur pc?11:07
IIIEars!seen bob2   "the bot hater - lol"11:07
ubotui haven't seen 'bob2   "the bot hater - lol"', IIIEars11:07
Amaranththoreauputic: sort of11:07
peterretiefhuh11:08
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Amaranthubotu: Amaranth is <action> stabs things11:08
ubotuAmaranth: okay11:08
thundrcleezepeterretief, it's thundrcleeze11:08
Amaranthubotu: Amaranth11:08
thoreauputicAmaranth: how can I find the syntax for that?11:08
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Amaranththat's about as close as you can get11:08
Amaranthdon't abuse it11:08
thoreauputicah sorry11:08
peterretief!seen thundrcleeze11:08
ubotuthundrcleeze is currently on #ubuntu (12m 22s)11:08
peterretiefthere you go11:08
peterretieffinger trouble11:08
Amaranththoreauputic: Just word your answer to fit in the way it replies.11:09
thundrcleezedooglus,  yes, I know.  I disabled it and it still gave me troubles.  I ran smbtree thinking it would tell me what I needed, but it listed everything coming from MSHOME, not what I need.11:09
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peterretiefthundrcleeze, I only suggest an install option (humbly)11:10
HaNazircan someone see this?11:10
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Amaranthyahalom: No.11:10
thundrcleezepeterretief, what, re-install ubuntu?11:10
yahalomAmaranth, thanx:) thoughti was d/c11:10
doogluswould someone please run this and tell me what it says?      time yes | head -10000 | grep '.' > /dev/null11:10
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MagiRedHey guys and dolls~11:11
dooglussomething very odd is going on, I think.  it is taking far too long to grep 10000 lines.11:11
peterretiefthundrcleeze, haha set up a static ip network11:11
thundrcleezepeterretief, done.11:11
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yahalomanyone here know how i can isntall ati from the repos? or can give me a link to a howto?11:12
bkinmanI cannot get amaya to work  =(. It shouldnt be that hard, is the package just broken or something?11:12
abisenhow do i install kernel-sources in ubuntu i need to have the sources for building some packages11:12
peterretiefthundrcleeze, not you the installer :)11:12
Amaranthdooglus: You want to know how long that takes?11:12
dooglusAmaranth: please11:12
Amaranthreal    0m19.824s user    0m16.111s sys     0m0.171s11:12
thundrcleezepeterretief, that's not a quick-fix.11:12
Choubakahm.11:12
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dooglus19 seconds?  that's got to be a bug in grep.11:12
we2bycan u watch NTSC and PAL dvd on ur pc?11:12
ChoubakaDon't the ubuntu backports people define dependencies at all?11:13
dooglusAmaranth: you would expect it to be linear, wouldn't you?11:13
thenukewe2by: you can11:13
Fator_Deewe2by: I think so11:13
peterretiefthundrcleeze, nmap -sP etc11:13
ChoubakaI installed beagle, and it fails with "mono: command not found"11:13
dooglusbut try 1000 instead of 10000 - it will be instant11:13
we2bywhy are people so concerned what type the dvd is?11:13
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thundrcleezepeterretief, command not found.11:13
Amaranthdooglus: No, that's showing how much time it spent in different parts of the system. real is wall time11:13
Fator_Deewe2by: I think it's the region that counts11:13
MagiRedAsssuming I'll be able to resize partitions from the live cd... Which I was told I'd be able to... Will I? :311:14
Amaranthdooglus: I have a 1.2Ghz, those times could be real.11:14
we2byah11:14
we2byso I can watch any region on my pc?11:14
Fator_Deewe2by: eg, region 1 disc wont play on a dvd-player of region 211:14
dooglusAmaranth: that's right.  but 20 seconds to grep 10000 lines is just stupid.  try it for 1000 lines instead - how long does that take?11:14
we2byhow do I know what region my dvd drive is?11:14
Amaranthdooglus: real    0m0.216s user    0m0.185s sys     0m0.007s11:14
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we2byor it just works on linux?11:14
Fator_Deewe2by: I'm not qualified to answer that though :-|11:14
weedarregion 1 if you live in north america, region 2 if you're from europe11:14
weedarthat was to we2by11:14
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Fator_Deeyea11:15
dooglusa fifty of a second for 1000 lines.  20 seconds for 10000 lines?  do you see my point?11:15
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dooglusa fifth...11:15
we2bybut what about PAL and NTSC?11:15
odie5533Whats a good FTP client for Ubuntu?11:15
Choubakayafc11:15
flodineanyone live in the bay area need 2-19 flats for 60011:15
Fator_Deewe2by: that doesn't matter11:15
Amaranthdooglus: *shrug*11:15
weedarI live in europe and I can play both ntsc and pal dvds11:15
Amaranthdooglus: Must not be a linear algorithm. ;)11:15
we2bycan't linux use any tool to by pass that region thing?11:15
xyzxHey guys is there an pop/IMAP that comes with ubuntu installation?11:16
thundrcleezepeterretief, that command was not found.11:16
peterretiefthundrcleeze, nmap -sP 192.168.1.* with a +-200 line perl script11:16
Fator_Deewe2by: it might be already :-p11:16
dooglusAmaranth: I think there's a bug in ubuntu's grep.  I'm going to boot into Mandriva and see what happens there - although I'm sure if it happened there I would have noticed already.11:16
we2bycool11:16
we2byso I can watch any region PAL or NTSC11:16
we2byon linux?11:16
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camhi11:16
Fator_Deewe2by: just wait till someony that know answers11:16
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peterretiefdooglus, what grep commmand are you using11:16
camhow can I put commands shoudl be run as root priviledges to startup?11:16
cuscohow do I print to a printer connected on a windows machine in the subnet?11:16
thundrcleezewe2by, no.11:16
camlike mounting samba shares?11:16
we2byI still remember the day I got my pc with windows and I only had 4 chances to set what region my dvd drive should be11:17
thundrcleezewe2by, regions are not the same as PAL/NTSC11:17
IIIEarsxyzx - yes - don't bother with "evolution' apt-get mozilla firebird.11:17
odie5533anyone here know a good ftp client for linux?11:17
cuscoodie5533: gftp11:17
torkianoodie5533 gftp11:17
odie5533thanks11:17
camode5533: lftp is a nice console client11:17
torkianoodie5533 kbear11:17
odie5533im a gui guy here11:17
Marble2Would someone walk me through setting my smb.conf so that my windows machine can view my samba share? Right now I'm getting permission errors11:17
camode5533: there's also igloftp11:17
cuscouse gftp odie553311:18
torkianoodie5533 konqueror ;-)11:18
xyzxIIIEars, I need an imap server to work with postfix11:18
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odie5533cant find package... gotta add repositories11:18
cuscoodie5533: nautilus also does the trick ftp://username:password@ip.or.server.name11:18
confreycusco : use the print administation tool of gnome; you must choose a smb printer; you need to know the hostname of computer and the share name of printer11:18
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IIIEarsokay nvm - evolution is so bad i just needed to vent. - lol11:18
dabiis there any command i can see list of my hd's and their size or fs?11:18
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Marble2dabi: df -h11:19
Marble2for size11:19
Marble2sudo fdisk -l11:19
thundrcleezeMarble2, I'm trying to see the wondows network through linux.11:19
Marble2for generla info11:19
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Marble2thundrcleeze: well... viewing my windows network through windows works fine for me11:19
Marble2but vice versa is broken11:19
Marble2have you tried going to smb:///11:20
thoreauputic! tell thoreauputic about google11:20
ubotuthoreauputic: I don't know11:20
thoreauputicbah11:20
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thoreauputic! google11:21
thoreauputicaha11:21
rancorusMy computer doesn`t want to detect the DHCP server that i have on eth0, how do i fix this?11:21
doogluspeterretief: I'm running this:    time yes | head -10000 | grep '.' > /dev/null11:21
doogluspeterretief: it should take a second or less, but it takes 15 to 20 seconds.11:21
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lamp_gn811:22
StR34kHere is a question, how can I find out if anyone has done any discussion on a breezy bounty?11:23
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doogluson Mandriva, 10 million lines take 3 seconds to grep.  On ubunta 10 thousand lines take 15 seconds.  This must be a bug.11:23
raethHello11:23
dabiok.. how can i see list of hd devices what are unmounted?11:23
viorkalguien q hable espaol11:23
viorkalguien q hable espaol11:23
viorkalguien q hable espaol11:23
laniusdooglus: utf8?11:23
thenukeviork: #ubuntu.es11:23
StR34kdabi: mount11:23
doogluslanius: how can I tell?11:23
viorkjaja11:23
newz2000quick question: I'm trying to install apache 1.3 from uinverse but it keeps trying to get apache2. How do I get 1.3?11:23
laniusdooglus: look at the LANG and LANGUAGE in export11:23
thundrcleezeMarble2, I just need to view it through linux, not vice versa.11:23
peterretiefdooglus, takes about .5 secs here?11:23
newz2000using apt-get11:23
StR34kand see what's in the fstab, and not in the mounted list.11:24
Marble2thundrcleeze: right, browse to smb:/// and see if you can see it there11:24
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thundrcleezeMarble2, smb:/// gives me a black page saying index of smb:/// then nothing else11:24
raethDoes anyone have any experience with Cedega?11:24
rancorusis there a problem with via-rhine?11:24
Marble2huh11:24
doogluspeterretief: could you try 2 more cases for me please?  instead of 10,000 try 100 thousand and 200 thousand.  what times do you get for those 2?11:25
peterretiefdooglus, im on ubuntu11:25
Marble2try smb://windowshostname11:25
doogluslanius: on mandrake I have:11:25
dooglusLANG=en_GB.UTF-811:25
dooglusLANGUAGE=en_GB.UTF-8:en_GB:en11:25
raethIs there a cegeda/WINE channel here?11:26
laniusdooglus: the upstream versino of grep has performance problems with uf8, maybe the one in ubuntu is not patched11:26
doogluslanius: the performance problem I'm seeing is making grep's performance worst than O(n) - does the utf8 bug do that?11:27
laniusdooglus: i thikn so11:27
peterretiefdooglus, 10000 hangs - ahh11:27
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newz2000Anyone know how to install apache 1.3 from uinverse using apt-get?11:27
doogluspeterretief: it doesn't hang - it just takes a long time - 20 seconds or so?11:27
peterretiefmay the source be with you11:28
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tanekdooglus: which config are those lines from?11:28
tanekremember screwing that one up and forgetting the name of it ;)11:28
thundrcleezeMarble2, no luck, just gave me a text file to donwload11:28
dooglustanek: the LANG lines?  that's from my Mandriva 10.2 partition11:28
vince_hello. when I use qt-specific applications (like skype), the fonts in the application are too big. does anyone know how to make them look like the rest of the system's fonts?11:28
peterretiefit ended.11:28
Marble2huh11:29
Amaranthlanius: You're here now too?11:29
dooglustanek: if you mean which file sets them, I have no idea.  I did "env | grep LANG"11:29
tanekdooglus: yeah, but they're in a config file i /etc somewhere i think?11:29
laniusAmaranth: not really ;)11:29
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Amaranthlanius: Not anymore. ;)11:29
tanekok, crap :P11:29
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Amaranthjust kidding11:29
niclasHello :)11:29
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Vampisthere11:29
tanekthx anyway dooglus11:30
dooglustanek: I'm running Mandriva right now anyway - was using it to verify that grep *can* run fast on Mandriva...  :)  I'll reboot back into ubuntu now.  brb.11:30
Vampiswhazup ppl?11:30
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newz2000how do you get heard in this chanel?11:30
MagiRedI haven't used Mandriva... I wonder if it's good. :311:30
pedlaryou speak11:31
Fator_Deenewz2000: ask11:31
dabiin fstab the type of FAT32 is just "fat" ?11:31
peterretiefi moved from mandriver11:31
newz2000can you tell me how to install apache 1.3 from universe using apt-get?11:31
pedlarcan somebody direct me to something that will help me install my audigy211:31
pedlari'm a bit of a newb11:31
Fator_Deenewz2000: is that version available in the repositories?11:31
newz2000Fator_Dee, universe but apt-get install apache tries to get apache211:32
Fator_Deewhy do you want 1.3 then :-o11:32
IIIEars!ubotu sound card11:32
newz2000Cause I've tested my software with 1.3 and it works, not with 2 though.11:32
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Fator_Deenewz2000: I'm not sure if apache1.3 is even in the repos11:33
pedlar!ubotu sound card11:33
newz2000It was with warty, I installed it through synaptic on another host.11:34
Fator_Deebut this is hoary11:34
Fator_Deepackages get upgraded11:34
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rancoruswhat driver is supposed to be used with a VIA PCI 10/100MB Fast Ethernet?11:34
Em`ZeeHey guys, I'm wondering if anyone has tried ubuntu on an HP Pavillion 554y and gotten internet to work. =/11:35
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newz2000is this the right place to look: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/a/apache/11:35
doogluslanius was exactly right by the way...  if you set LANG to be non-utf8 then the command runs in almost zero time:      time yes | head -10000 | LANG= grep . > /dev/null11:35
flipyis there any way to auto-munt an usb mass storage device on a ubuntu server without X?11:35
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Fator_Deebut I'm off to sleep ->11:36
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diktatornnn svensk?11:37
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Em`ZeeAlright I'll take the silence as a no... then the follow-up question... my onboard network card is detected as a RTL-8139 but even though the module is loaded and running, I can't seem to get an IP from DHCP.11:38
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Em`ZeeThe router works fine, as this computer is properly running on it. Also, the light on the router that indicates a connection between the Ubuntu 5.04 computer and the router itself is on11:38
Em`Zeeand when I tell eth0 to activate, the light flashes, indicating activity. Yet it still refuses to get an IP.11:39
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Zodiacsup dawgs11:40
SysFailwhats a dawg?11:40
runedudeamerican slang11:40
SysFailfor?11:40
runedudeerr11:40
runedudefriend11:40
flipyis there any way to auto-munt an usb mass storage device on a ubuntu server without X?11:40
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apollo2011I see in Kynaptic a Ubuntu package, I assume that is ubuntu but gnome, I would like to try it out but I want to make sure that the kde portion won't be messed up and that KDE will still (for now) stay as the default session type.11:41
runedudeflipy: probably /etc/fstab ?11:41
flipyrunedude: everytime it is connecte will be mapped?11:41
runedudeflipy: erm.... it should11:41
runedudeim not so sure with usb storage devices11:41
flipyit is detected, but not mapped11:41
runedudewell whats the mapping to it?11:42
runedudelike /dev/ ??11:42
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IIIEarsAmaranth - Minimized apps Vanish this keeps my task bar tidy - But you ought-a see my list of running processes. - Zowie! - rofl11:42
shinujust a question out of nowhere: when i update my kernel, i dont have to reboot or anything or do i?11:42
runedudeshinu: you do11:42
AmaranthIIIEars: ?11:42
Em`Zeeshinu; To load the new kernel, you need to make sure its image is in your Bootloader (LILO/GRUB) and reboot11:42
shinuugly....11:42
runedudeshinu: well, er.. i believe you do.. sometimes some features with the new kernel may not work11:42
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flipyrunedude, yes, so it is mapped to /dev/sdX11:42
Em`ZeeCan anyone help me with that problem regarding my NIC? =/11:42
shinuok then thanks a lot^^11:43
flipybut I want to be automatically mounted to /media/XXXX11:43
apollo2011I see in Kynaptic a Ubuntu package, I assume that is ubuntu but gnome, I would like to try it out but I want to make sure that the kde portion won't be messed up and that KDE will still (for now) stay as the default session type.11:43
IIIEarsAmaranth - Dunno - i minimize an app and it goes on vacation disappearing from sight.11:43
rancorusis there more than one kernel on the ubuntu cd11:43
runedudeflipy: id put that into /etc/fstab, and i believe it should work11:43
flipyrunedude thanks palo11:43
shinuum... so does it mean people with 1 year uptime have a very old kernel? 0o11:43
flipypal11:43
runeduderancorus: i think so... 2.4 and 2.611:43
runedude:)11:43
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flipyi'll give it a try now11:43
runedudeflipy: k , gluck11:43
rancorusrunedude: how do i install ubuntu with 2.411:43
AmaranthIIIEars: why did you direct that to me?11:43
Em`Zeeshinu; Probably ;)11:43
amonkeydoes anyone know why flash audio might only work some of the time?11:43
AmaranthIIIEars: Does it show up in alt-tab?11:43
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flipythnx11:44
runeduderancorus: oh wait.... hoary is 2.6, and err... warty is 2.411:44
SeroCan anyone help me in here?11:44
runedudeSero: w/?11:44
runeduderancorus: if you want a older kernel, i believe you can apt-get it11:44
IIIEarsAmaranth - hm. -= yes it does. is that good? - lol11:44
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Serorunedude, I think my sources are messed up because it's saying it can't find like any of the packages I try to aptitude install.11:44
AmaranthIIIEars: hoary?11:44
poliehi all11:44
runedudeSero: err, need a sample sources.list ?11:45
rancorusrunedude: well i need an older kernel because my ethernet card doesn`t seem to work with this one11:45
Serorunedude, it only worked for um K3B and then told me to put in the CD it didn't download it.11:45
shinuEm`Zee: xD alright then thx :)11:45
IIIEarsYes the Odiferous Hedgehog.11:45
Serorunedude, I guess.11:45
runeduderancorus: that sucks.. erm.. well burn warty then upgrade what you need11:45
runedudeSero: k, hold a sec11:45
polieany one using bluetooth11:45
Em`ZeeHey, guys, can anyone help me out with getting my RTL ethernet card to work with Hoary? It's not wanting to get an IP.11:45
runedudewhy wont your network card use 2.6 kernel?11:45
IIIEarsamaranth you can wimp out. just point me to a file DYI mungeable file.11:46
rancorusrunedude: well I don`t know what`s wrong with it11:46
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flipyrunedude: it does not work11:46
runedudeflipy: :( hm.. i dont know then :( so sorry11:46
AmaranthIIIEars: try restarting gnome-panel11:46
flipyrunedude thnks anyway dude11:46
AmaranthIIIEars: did you remove the window list from your panel?11:46
IIIEarsdid that killall gnome-panel11:46
runeduderancorus: hmm.. what brand?11:47
polieany one using bluetooth11:47
rancorusrunedude: no one seems to be able to help me. I see that it gets loaded in dmesg... but it won`t detect the dhcp server at the other end11:47
rancorusrunedude: via11:47
IIIEarsHmm - "window list" - er no..11:47
runeduderancorus: never heard of it :( thats why :(11:47
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rancorusrunedude: damn =/11:47
runedudeSero: hang on, i havent forgotten you, im uploading a sources.list11:48
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runedudeSero: try this.. http://69.64.39.174/sources.list11:48
runedudeyou know, put it in /etc/apt/sources.list11:48
runedudethen perform a apt-get update11:48
runedudeyou should be good to go after that11:49
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Chambers`hi guys, if i installed the ati driver, will upgrading to the newest kernel break 3d?11:50
runedudecrap.. seems my server is full hard drive space11:50
runedudelol11:50
AmaranthChambers`: Did you install it from apt or off ati.com?11:50
Chambers`Amaranth: apt11:50
IIIEarsAmaranth - If you can fix it i promise to learn something about the gnome-panel.11:51
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LinuxJonesChambers`, not if you stick with the Ubuntu kernel/driver11:51
AmaranthChambers`: should work fine them, as long as the kernel is from ubuntu too11:51
runedudeChambers`: yep11:51
AmaranthIIIEars: try adding a window list applet to your panel11:51
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Chambers`ok cool, thanks guys.  I used to use Suse and when i upgraded to their latest kernel update it killed my 3d11:51
IIIEarsOkay. - How?11:52
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AmaranthIIIEars: right click, add to panel11:52
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IIIEars<<- being new means never being too embarassed to ask a really dumb question.11:52
Marble2How can I setup samba to share my printers? I finally got shares themselves working, but how do I share my printer?11:53
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IIIEarsDone. Voila! fixed. You are a champ! :)11:53
IIIEarsThank You.11:53
polieany one using bluetooth11:53
polieany one using bluetooth on phones11:53
IIIEarsThat was too easy. was prepping some mighty new curses. - grin11:54
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dooglusso I'm trying to compile grep from CVS, but don't know how to make the "configure" script.  can someone help me please?11:55
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flipyon hdparm, what is write_cache? and it is better to have it activated o deactivated?11:56
rtuckHi guys... I just did the Breezy Badger upgrade today from an old Hoary and X seems to have gone and broken itself. Any similar experiences today, hopefully with solutions? ~_^11:56
IIIEarshm. new toy - grin -  "color picking tool" -                  Ach! my panel just turned iridescent orange. - rofl11:56
polieany one got bluetooth working on warty??11:57
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IIIEarshm - apply a pic to the toolbar - nice - ocean pic, nah. mountain snow. nah. Anna Kournikova ah now thats better. - lol11:59
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Fuzzhello11:59
Thorrn4Hello!!11:59
IIIEarserm maybe not my wife will be back in a few hours.11:59
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