[12:01] arent the 7167's? [12:01] there are 7167, 7174 and 7664 [12:01] http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_archive.html [12:02] ahh, I got ATI you see so I dont know :P === transgress [~transgres@24.181.89.246] has joined #kubuntu [12:07] hullo === allee [~ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu === claydoh [~claydoh@65.99.187.93] has joined #kubuntu === laura [~laura@48-149-89-200.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #kubuntu === laura is now known as cerbero === cerbero [~laura@48-149-89-200.fibertel.com.ar] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === roque [~roque@200-112-138-207.bbt.net.ar] has joined #kubuntu === laser_tk [~laser@a84-230-146-184.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #kubuntu [12:21] Firetech, can you help me whith thous [12:21] Nvidia drivers [12:21] it's a bit hard, because you need to shutdown X... [12:22] :D [12:22] I download newest drivers and try to install them, but it say somethink my kernel [12:22] so I can't help you during the process, unless you use irssi or another computer to chat... [12:24] then run the following command: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` [12:24] i use irssi but screen is unfamilar to me jet [12:24] laser_tk: you can use multiple tty's [12:24] multiple tty's? [12:24] ctrl+alt+F[1-6] are all for your disposal :) [12:24] ok [12:24] you can compile in one, and chat in another [12:26] the passwords won't echo when you try to login [12:28] woops :) === AMIGrAve [~amigrave@62.52-201-80.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #kubuntu === frank [~frank@Toronto-HSE-ppp3779228.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu [12:30] is msttcorefonts in universe or in multiverse ? === laser_tk [~laser@a84-230-146-184.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #kubuntu [12:31] AMIGrAve: multiverse [12:31] multiverse = non-fre [12:31] *non-free [12:32] FireEgl: thanks [12:32] laser_tk: how did it go? [12:32] You're welcome! =P [12:32] Firetech: now installing drivers [12:32] laser_tk: :) === sirukin [~sirukin@64.247.151.242] has joined #kubuntu [12:33] sh sudo NVIDI...? === Firetech stabs FireEgl, for stealing my thanks... [12:33] what you say somethign apt-get install ..? [12:33] laser_tk: sudo sh might work better. [12:33] somethign* [12:33] :DD [12:33] sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` [12:34] thath's right [12:34] be sure you get the angled quotes... [12:34] be -> make === FireEgl [~FireEgl@2001:5c0:84dc:0:0:0:0:0] has left #Kubuntu [] [12:34] woot, he is using ipv6? [12:36] that apt-get did not to enything?? [12:37] then you have that package. === brad [~brad@wiley-366-1756.roadrunner.nf.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:37] ok [12:37] laser_tk: go to /usr/src and do an ls [12:38] In Kde I click File Sharing and click administrator mode but it wont accept my password of the superuser, can anyone help? [12:38] brad: enter your own password [12:39] I did [12:39] kubuntu uses sudo [12:39] there are only rpm [12:39] It brings me back to where I was when I had to click Administrator mode [12:39] laser_tk: give me the output of "uname -r" [12:41] 2.6.10-5-386 [12:41] hey, wait a minute.. [12:42] apt-get say cant find package linux when a try that apt-get.. [12:42] laser_tk: then do sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386 [12:42] yes [12:42] :) === claydoh [~claydoh@65.99.187.93] has joined #kubuntu [12:43] this all is new to me.. [12:45] brad: try deleting the folder /var/tmp/kdecache-[your-username-here] [12:45] Firetech: can you say what diffrent is whit xorg and xfree86? === sirukin [~sirukin@64.247.151.242] has joined #kubuntu [12:46] laser_tk: Xorg: GPL, XFree: non-GPL [12:46] ok [12:47] Xorg is a "ripoff" from Xfree, just before they changed their license [12:47] Whats Faster? [12:47] now in /usr/src are linux-headers-2.6.10-5 and ...-386 [12:47] Firetech: You mean a fork? [12:47] Xorg or Xfree [12:47] Xfree was gpl earlier, but they changed so that you can't say you made it... [12:47] DaSkreech: kind of. [12:48] brad: almost equal, I believe. [12:48] Firetech: next? [12:49] laser_tk: run: ln -s /usr/src/linux/linux-headers-5-386 /usr/src/linux [12:49] then run the nvidia installer [12:49] ok [12:51] Firetech: linux-headers-5-385 or linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386? [12:52] yup [12:52] Tm_T: band from finland [12:52] laser_tk: the latter, I'm stupid. [12:52] laser_tk: eh, I know [12:52] laser_tk: /whois me ;) [12:53] I know [12:54] =) [12:54] I think I really should sleep [12:55] me too, but I have no school tomorrow. [12:55] Firetech: ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers..?? not /usr/src/linux/linux-hea..?? [12:55] laser_tk: sudo ln -s /usr/src/linux/linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386 /usr/src/linux === NTolerance [~nt@cpe-024-162-255-174.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:56] is there a /usr/src/linux dir already? [12:56] no [12:56] laser_tk: btw #ubuntu-fi ;) [12:56] mkdir [12:56] :D [12:57] and now the Nvidia installer === ilmansee [~ilmansee@d141-64-4.home.cgocable.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:57] \o/ [12:58] does anyone here use an Orinoco card in Ubuntu? [12:59] laser_tk: /usr/src/linux should be a symlink to /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386 [01:00] Firetech: i run the installer and it's works [01:00] thank you [01:00] :) [01:00] np [01:00] it's now telling something to update my xorg.conf [01:01] now I want something in return, lear me swahili. *kidding* (i don't need anything back) [01:01] laser_tk: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf [01:01] swahili..:D [01:01] has this new nvidia driver anything positive? [01:02] laser_tk: then ctrl+W > "nv" > Enter [01:02] add idia after "nv, and then press ctrl+O and enter. [01:02] for me it only has something negative: at least one of my cards is now unsupported [01:02] then "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart" [01:03] KaiL: then use 7174? [01:03] you mean "stay with 7174" [01:03] ...as long, as nvidia has that on their server... === zemantic [~michel@166.170.2.88] has joined #kubuntu [01:04] they have back to the first stable release... [01:04] Firetech: you mean Driver --> "nv idia" [01:04] ?? === zemantic [~michel@166.170.2.88] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [01:04] no [01:04] driver --> "nvidia" [01:04] laser_tk: "nvidia" [01:04] no space... [01:05] :DD === philipacamaniac [~philip@ip68-228-49-137.tc.ph.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:05] haha [01:05] laser_tk: \o/ [01:05] that's right, i'm stupid.. [01:05] lol [01:05] laser_tk: I'm 100% sure you're yankee [01:05] i must go to sleep [01:06] Tm_T: not yankee..:) [01:06] Firetech: I already wanted to test something with my GF2MX400 [01:07] Firetech: is thah all? [01:07] nv --> nvidia [01:07] if that solves the other problems, the GTS will end in some dirty corner [01:07] laser_tk: yup [01:08] thanks [01:08] Firetech: comment out DRI? [01:08] save it (ctrl+o) and then restart X [01:08] yeah! [01:08] ok [01:08] laser_tk: do as KaiL said... === Firetech punishes himself for forgetting [01:08] haha [01:08] Load "dri", somewhere in the top of the file [01:08] add an # before [01:09] laser_tk: under Modules [01:09] hi KaiL [01:09] hi Tm_T [01:09] then as KaiL said, damn you :P [01:09] Section "DRI", what about it?? and # before it? [01:10] that doesn't matter [01:10] laser_tk: lis # ko rivin alkuun [01:10] only the load "dri" [01:10] it won't be used after commenting out load dri... [01:10] yup [01:10] yup [01:10] :) [01:10] laser_tk: you got it? [01:10] good old finnish <3 [01:11] helpommin sit ei voi sanoa [01:11] haha [01:11] :D [01:11] I agree =) [01:11] yup [01:11] Riddell [01:11] ok, I'll try to get some sleep -> [01:11] thanks to all === sirukin [~sirukin@64.247.151.242] has left #kubuntu ["out"] [01:12] hell, I know finnish: yxi kaxi sauna perkele (thats all.. I kind of know what the words mean too) [01:13] I'm from southern Sweden... [01:13] perkele mentioned! ] ;= [01:13] fucking hilight [01:14] Firetech: yes I noticed [01:15] one two sauna ~f-ck, am I right? [01:15] the english word for sauna is sauna, right? === matrix [~matrix@dsl-084-056-103-210.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu === laser_tk [~laser@a84-230-146-184.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #kubuntu [01:17] Firetech: x dosen't start..:D [01:17] laser_tk: run startx [01:18] what error do you get? [01:18] Firetech: perkele == devil [01:18] oh... [01:18] is there a reason why my console often just disappears [01:18] perkele, saatana, paholainen etc etc [01:18] windows = perkele :D [01:18] it's all the same =) [01:19] Firetech: yes! ] ;= [01:19] number in finnish (as in number one)? [01:19] only black screen [01:20] Firetech: you mean "numero yksi" ? [01:20] I think so... [01:20] fatal IO error 104 [01:20] ok [01:20] laser_tk: muhaha [01:20] Linus Thorvalds = numero yksi :P [01:20] prrkeleen nvitia [01:20] =) [01:20] evo ;----P [01:20] laser_tk: any explanation before that? [01:21] Tm_T: voi olla [01:21] laser_tk: hmm, you tried to apt-get that driver? [01:22] the konsole is still present, but doens't appear in the task bar or when switich with alt+tab [01:22] Tm_T: no [01:23] matrix: hmm, open window menu (rightclick on titlebar) adv -> special window settings -> [01:23] laser_tk: I use the ones from repositories [01:24] Firetech: something skipping /usr/.../modules/libfb.afbmmx.o No found [01:24] ah [01:24] No symbol found [01:24] me so stoopid [01:25] sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-386 [01:25] heh [01:25] not sure if that solves it, though... [01:25] ok, I think you get it without me so I try to sleep then -> [01:26] you CAN use the nvidia-glx package instead... [01:26] sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-386 [01:26] Firetech: apt-get says .. is already newest.. [01:26] aah [01:27] wait [01:27] sudo modprobe agpgart [01:27] me more stoopid. [01:27] Tm_T: what should i change there? [01:27] rr [01:27] Tm_T: i found the switch, thx [01:28] what i shall do.. sudo modprobe agpgart first [01:28] and then Firetech? [01:29] do the modprobe and then try startx again [01:29] ok [01:29] it doesn't matter if you do "startx" or start X another way :P === laser_tk [~laser@a84-230-146-184.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #kubuntu [01:32] :( [01:32] not working yet [01:33] x say same error message === liz4rd [~liz4rd@static24-72-76-248.regina.accesscomm.ca] has joined #kubuntu === KaiL [KaiL@p548F476A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:34] somthing wrong whit my xorg.conf maybe?? [01:37] laser_tk: can you paste your xorg.conf here: http://rafb.net/paste/ (you can start x with nv instead) [01:37] ok.. [01:37] i start on nv now.. [01:39] just a minute.. === laser_tk [~laser@a84-230-146-184.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #kubuntu [01:44] Firetech: http://koti.mbnet.fi/laser_tk/xorg.conf [01:44] laser_tk: you didn't comment out the dri line [01:45] Load "DRI" in the beginning === _Simon_ [~IRC@i216-58-40-193.avalonworks.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:45] :) [01:45] I don't think that's the reason though... [01:46] because I ran my driver with dri by mistake for a while... [01:46] and I really should go to bed noe. [01:46] *now [01:46] i comment Section = Dri [01:46] yep [01:46] yes [01:46] <_Simon_> hey guys, been a redhat user for ages, not a linux guru or anything, but been a linux fan for awhile. ubuntu/kubuntu has been my first decision to see what else is "out there" and I'm very impressed :) was curious if I could get a little help with XDCMP, unfortunately my redhat exclusiveness has gotten me used to file locations lol [01:46] i try somethihg [01:46] thing* [01:47] _Simon_: hmm, do you know filename you're looking for? [01:47] but it's the Load "DRI" line under Section "Modules" that is important [01:47] ok [01:47] laser_tk: "look, I sleep \o/" [01:47] <_Simon_> well that is my question, I'm trying to enable XDCMP, but in redhat it used to be in /etc/X11/xdm/something.conf I believe [01:47] Tm_T: sto lying. [01:47] <_Simon_> xdm.conf thats what it was [01:47] *stop [01:47] <_Simon_> but I cannot find this file [01:48] Firetech: I do my bes, but just can't sleep [01:48] :D [01:48] well well [01:48] _Simon_: there's no xdm, you use kdm [01:48] I'll try to go to sleep. [01:48] <_Simon_> ok, where is kdm.conf? [01:48] s/bes/besat [01:48] <_Simon_> in redhat, even though gdm.conf ran, you still had to modify xdm.conf to get XDCMP [01:49] hmm [01:49] I think kdm confs are under kde3 directory [01:49] <_Simon_> ahh yeah /etc/kde3/kdm [01:50] not kdm.conf /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc [01:51] must go to sleep.. eli samma p finska nukkuu.. === wirwzd [~wirwzd@c-24-218-115-209.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:51] 'nite laser_tk, [01:51] <_Simon_> do you know if theres a gui way to enable XDMCP or whatever its called? I know fedora had it in the login config gui [01:51] yup [01:51] <_Simon_> I couldn't find it in the kde login config though === sara [~sara@pool-70-106-109-69.pskn.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:54] _Simon_: what is XDCMP anyway? [01:54] *XDMCP [01:54] <_Simon_> its a way to connect to X remotely, a remote X client can connect to the X server [01:55] there is a XDMCP section in the end of my /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc [01:55] <_Simon_> VNC is great over internet, but lan, I find VNC very slow, remote X is almost like being on the PC itself [01:55] <_Simon_> yup I see it [01:55] Enable -> true? [01:55] <_Simon_> yup thats what I'm going to try :) === nate__ [~nate@c66.168.31.134.mad.wi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:59] _Simon_: then do a "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart" (restart is more efficient than reload) [02:00] no [02:00] I was thinking about gdm [02:00] "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm reload is enough. [02:01] seems to be atleast. === Firetech goes to bed now. [02:01] Good night. [02:02] <_Simon_> hmm odd, I don't remember the kubuntu installer asking me for a root password, it asked me for creating a new user though [02:02] <_Simon_> does kubuntu/ubuntu use a default password for root or something? [02:02] _Simon_, http://www.ubuntu.com/support/documentation/faq/root [02:03] _Simon_, root user's password isn't set by default [02:03] <_Simon_> interesting, su root doesn't work though [02:04] <_Simon_> I have to do sudo -s? [02:05] yep :) [02:05] it simplifies your life [02:05] nah [02:05] root <3 [02:06] be c areful, sudo -s keeps your own shell's environment variables. $HOME is still your home dir... [02:06] to become real root: either "sudo su" or "sudo -i" [02:06] gnite. [02:06] Firetech, I actually like keeping the same environment variables [02:08] <_Simon_> night Firetech, thanks [02:09] <_Simon_> gonna take awhile to remember sudo -s lol [02:09] <_Simon_> I feel like such a noob, veering away from fedora/redhat has programmed me expecting where things are [02:10] <_Simon_> curious to learn ubuntu package management, I found redhat slowly getting better but (don't flame me) compared to the windows world, installations were still a huge DEP war [02:11] _Simon_: well, debian way is the easy way ;p [02:11] <_Simon_> I found yum and rpm much better than the old systems === othernoob [~othernoob@p54A2F8A6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:11] <_Simon_> but it was still difficult at times [02:11] just say apt-get install and it checks dependencies and install them [02:12] _Simon_: I install apt into Fedora too, yum stinks [02:12] <_Simon_> hrm xdcmp is still not working [02:12] =) [02:12] what is it anyway? [02:14] Tm_T would you happen to know how to convert an avi to a dvd ? [02:14] or more precisely, 2 different avis to one dvd, with an option to choose .. [02:14] othernoob: can't help now, I try to sleep again ;( -> [02:14] lol okay === nate__ [~nate@c66.168.31.134.mad.wi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === dewey [~dewey@c-67-168-51-149.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === CruNcher [~lulu_lol@dsl-084-058-130-110.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu === __Simon [~admin@i216-58-40-193.avalonworks.net] has joined #kubuntu === duende [~duende@stjhnf01bb8-142162163245.nl.aliant.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:27] <__Simon> hey, sorry to bother, I'm swapping monitor between my 2 machines lol [02:27] <__Simon> can't seem to get remote X to work, I rebooted the box even [02:27] <__Simon> anyone use XDMCP before? [02:28] <__Simon> I know in fedora when I modified gdm.conf it didn't work, I had to edit xdm.conf [02:28] <__Simon> is there a xdm.conf in ubuntu? === claydoh|away [~claydoh@65.99.187.93] has joined #kubuntu [02:34] <__Simon> anyon ehave any ideas? === Jeezis is now known as JackKerouac === JackKerouac is now known as Jeezis === Jeezis is now known as RushLimbaugh === RushLimbaugh is now known as RichardNixon === RichardNixon is now known as KenStar [02:40] <__Simon> is there a gui services program? === KenStar is now known as CaliforniaVoter === CaliforniaVoter is now known as DeadWhiteWomansK === DeadWhiteWomansK is now known as DWWKiller === DWWKiller is now known as Jeezis [02:47] <__Simon> can anyone help me out please? [02:49] <__Simon> this is upsetting me, I can't even get sshd to work === allee [~ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === sproingie [~chuck@64-121-15-14.c3-0.sfrn-ubr8.sfrn.ca.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu === digby [~digby@cpe-24-24-118-62.midsouth.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === Harnak [~Harnak@203-109-154-193.akl.ihugultra.co.nz] has joined #kubuntu === Harnak [~Harnak@203-109-154-193.akl.ihugultra.co.nz] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === _P_ [~princoscr@host-84-220-141-138.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #kubuntu === sirukin [~sirukin@64.247.151.242] has joined #kubuntu === SlicerDicer- is now known as Dr-Nick [03:21] <_Simon_> please can someone help me with kdm and XDMCP? === Dr-Nick is now known as SlicerDicer- === alex__ [~alex@ca-vannys-bluewave1d-a-79.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu === SlicerDicer- is now known as Dr-Dick === Dr-Dick is now known as SlicerDicer- [03:25] _Simon_: you need to edit /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc and possibly /etc/kde3/kdm/Xaccess [03:25] <_Simon_> I did both [03:26] <_Simon_> I enabled XDMCP in kdmrc [03:26] <_Simon_> I uncommented the chooser line in Xaccess [03:26] <_Simon_> still nothing [03:26] <_Simon_> it was super easy in fedora, wonder what is wrong === BROKEN_LADDER [~pral@h-67-101-103-122.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #KUBUNTU [03:27] _Simon_: I'm afraid I've never used it [03:27] <_Simon_> sigh [03:27] <_Simon_> this is making me feel like a moron, took me 2 seconds to enable it on all my redhat distros. I wish I knew what was wrong === BROKEN_LADDER [~pral@h-67-101-103-122.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #KUBUNTU [03:29] <_Simon_> ahh got it, had to comment out 2 lines in Xaccess [03:31] <_Simon_> yay finally hehe thanks Riddell [03:31] what is XDCMP? [03:31] <_Simon_> its a UDP chooser protocol for remote X [03:31] ah [03:32] <_Simon_> you run a X client that supports XDMCP, and you get like a list of PC's on your network [03:32] <_Simon_> and you click one and connect [03:32] cool [03:32] if I had more than one computer, I'd have to play with that...haha [03:32] <_Simon_> well my linux box is my dev machine, so I have no monitor, I like remote X since its so fast [03:33] <_Simon_> and I'm deciding for the first time in years, to try another distro than fedora/redhat [03:33] I haven't even been using linux for a year, really [03:33] <_Simon_> cool [03:34] getting the bugs ironed out slowly... lots of fun doing it, though [03:35] <_Simon_> curious why theres no icons on the kubuntu desktop by default hehe [03:35] <_Simon_> ops kicker crashed [03:37] you know anything about running gtk apps in kde? [03:38] <_Simon_> not really, as long as you have GTK installed it should work I think [03:38] well, they work, I just can't get sound out of gaim === sirukin [~sirukin@64.247.151.242] has joined #kubuntu [03:40] _Simon_: there's a brutally minimalist philosophy about the kubuntu desktop [03:41] even moves the trash off the desktop [03:41] <_Simon_> yeah I see that lol [03:41] i do wish it had a better set of kicker icons [03:41] like the home folder [03:41] <_Simon_> not sure whats wrong though, kicker keeps crashing :( [03:42] not running breezy are you? [03:42] <_Simon_> whats breezy? [03:42] ah [03:43] breezy is the dev version of ubuntu === transgress [~transgres@24.181.89.246] has joined #kubuntu [03:44] <_Simon_> nope running hoary or however ya spell it [03:44] I think it's set to be released in 5 months or so [03:45] <_Simon_> something definately wrong [03:45] <_Simon_> wonder if remote X with KDE is very buggy or something [03:49] <_Simon_> hoping to get this system stable, I'm eager to do some C# testing on linux :) === smouche [~bc@cpe-24-90-94-112.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:01] hey transgress === nmorse [~nmorse@adsl-64-217-110-209.dsl.tulsok.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu === michelp [~michel@166.170.0.100] has joined #kubuntu === pat [~pat@c207.134.179-13.clta.globetrotter.net] has joined #kubuntu === daba [~dbernar1@wnpgmb02dc1-176-16.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #kubuntu === _Church_of_Foamy [~shane@24-177-160-171.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:29] <_Church_of_Foamy> where is sources.list located? === regeya_ [~shane@adsl-sp3-cdale176.micgi.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:34] _Church_of_Foamy: /etc/apt [04:35] <_Church_of_Foamy> thanx man [04:35] <_Church_of_Foamy> my vid card blew up today :( [04:35] <_Church_of_Foamy> had to redo kubuntu === sirukin [~sirukin@64.247.151.242] has left #kubuntu ["out"] === pussfeller [~todd@t1-rtc-woodlawn.rtcol.com] has joined #kubuntu === daba [~dbernar1@wnpgmb02dc1-176-16.dynamic.mts.net] has left #kubuntu ["latahz"] === SpookyET [~sorin@24-196-233-44.cpe.ga.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === _Church_of_Foamy [~shane@24-177-160-171.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === _Church_of_Foamy [~shane@24-177-160-171.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:11] <_Church_of_Foamy> how to install skype? === tim_h [~Tim@p54A1EAA3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:37] Something funny happened today. [05:38] I was accused of pirating linux because I asked about Suse's 5cds on BitTorrent. === mkerby [~michele@66.212.101.164] has joined #kubuntu [05:42] <_Simon_> ok so I did an apt-get install on automake, and I also got automake1.9, apt-get says I have both [05:43] <_Simon_> but when I do automake --version it says 1.4 [05:43] <_Simon_> how do I get it to upgrade 1.4 with 1.9? it says I have both, wtf? lol [05:45] what plays nsv [05:45] nullsoft video streams === tim_h_ [~Tim@p54A1E123.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === mkerby [~michele@66.212.101.164] has joined #kubuntu [05:58] <_Church_of_Foamy> how do i install skype? === _Simon_ [~IRC@i216-58-40-193.avalonworks.net] has left #kubuntu [] === Jeezis [~roger@jeezis.user] has joined #kubuntu === roger [~roger@c-67-161-46-109.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === roger is now known as _roger_ === rogerhc [~rogerhc@c-67-161-46-109.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:17] New to kubuntu (and ubuntu), installs nicely. How do I open my ssh port 22? Suggestions (I'd like to keep it simple but don't know where to start)? === Fuzmo [~X@CPE0011953795c0-CM001225009118.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu === freelying [~mailofhou@218.22.27.143] has joined #kubuntu [06:32] rogerhc: do you have sshd installed? [06:34] locate sshd finds only one file, a config file. So I think I probably don't have sshd installed. [06:35] install openssh-server [06:35] unless you have a firewall running, that should be all you need to do [06:36] brandonn: thanks! trying it now. :-) [06:37] you'll probably also want openssh-client so that you can ssh to other machines [06:40] brandonn: thanks. openssh-client is already installed as port of the stardard kubuntu installation. thanks though. [06:41] solo servir internet por ahora [06:45] brandonn: ssh is working now. Thanks. While looking for a way to get this working I read on the Web that Ubuntu has by default all ports closed to inbound requests. Do you know if this is so? === kkathman [~kkathman@h-69-3-74-243.dllatx37.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:48] hmm, I wouldn't think that is so unless you have a firewall, but, as you can see, I don't think it has very many services running by default [06:50] brandonn: ah, not many services running by default, maybe that's it. Didn't think to install the ssh server. Glad you are here! :-) Where can I see a list of every service my system has running? [06:51] Yes, I now recall reading on the Web that because no services are running by default there need not be any default firewall. [06:51] netstat -at |grep LISTEN [06:54] Thanks. That shows some stuff listening to local.host and the now running ssh. Is there a default location/file where I can configure what I want running? [06:55] Obviously I have to install the related servers if they are not installed. And that is a separate step that would come first. [06:56] yeah, let me check, I know how to do it by hand, but I'm sure there i sa better way [06:59] Is there a config file for it? (GUIs are helpful sometimes but I like to know where the real config file is, even if I don't know the syntax well enough yet to do it by hand.) [07:03] well, all services are started out of /etc/rc*.d (usually /etc/rc2.d) [07:03] you'll see a bunch of scripts in there that start with S, to disable one, just change the name to start with "s" [07:07] brandonn: Okay, I understand that. And those are links to stuff in /etc/init.d. Do I need to mess at all with inetd.conf? [07:08] it's possible, but fewer and fewer services are started out of inetd === spanglesontoast [~spangles@eddland.plus.com] has joined #kubuntu [07:09] Ah, that is good. I don't understand the format of inetd.conf and it's man page didn't help me understand it much. So I will try to ignore inetd.conf! :-) [07:12] well, basically any service you don't want started out of inetd.conf, put a # in front of it [07:12] although there may not be anything in your inetd.conf by default, mine has identd in it, but I think I installed that myself [07:13] hm, I think they *all* had an # in front of it by default. So maybe I need to mess in there (remove the # where appropriate) sometimes? === mrmanic is away (going offline) === mrmanic is now known as mrmanic|afk [07:16] looking at mine, it looks like the only thing in there are comments, it won't install any service lines until you install that service [07:16] by default when you install a package, the service line in inetd.conf is not commented out === ds9 [~ds9@ASt-Lambert-102-1-2-151.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [07:18] so, in theory, I would have to go into inetd.conf and uncomment something, say ssh (which is not listed but may be part of one of the listed groups, I'd guess).. [07:19] after I install the relevant server === Tezkah [~Tezkah@d137-186-160-50.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:27] no, you wouldn't, by defaut when you install a server, it is enabled [07:27] however, very few servers are installed by default [07:30] I just loaded up the MEPIS liveCD [07:30] it started up an apache web server [07:31] brandonn: thanks for helping. 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[10:25] when you run the mouse over it === verden01 [~verden@61.68.231.7] has left #KUBUNTU ["Leaving"] === hussam [~hussam@194.126.31.19] has joined #kubuntu === uniq [charlie@gw.ipv6.lnix.net] has joined #kubuntu === A-tom-2 [~Miranda@p548B9C56.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === raphinou [~rb@bidibule.office.be.easynet.net] has joined #kubuntu === laser_tk [~laser@a84-230-146-184.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #kubuntu [10:54] i can't use dovcote, i start it by /etc/init.d/dovecot start but can't connect to it with kmail and nmap does't show a running imapserver === Alex[RM-UK] [~Alex[RM-U@host86-128-217-181.range86-128.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu [10:54] Hey, [10:55] When I installed Kubuntu, I wasn't ask at any stage on what packages I wanted to install. Is there a way of selecting what paclages are installed? [10:55] To choose them to install I mean [10:55] you can stop the guide at some point, but i am not sure where [10:56] by pressing CTRL+C [10:56] Oh you can stop it automayicly going to the next one? [10:56] the installer will stop, you can boot but no X is installed.. I just got this by try&error once, so i don't sure [10:57] ahh right, [10:57] I did click the GO BACK option on one of the sections, and it took me to the main screen [10:57] Alex[RM-UK] : Why not let the installer run, then add new packages /afterwards/ ? [10:57] i think, he will not have all installed [10:57] Yeh I know, but I am not sure what half the packages installed are :P [10:57] the whole point of the installer was to ask the bare minimum of questions possible for the best user experience :) [10:58] Use kynaptic to see the installed ones, or 'dpkg -l' [10:58] I know, but an option on what to install would be great [10:58] Yeh im doing that now.....but to uninstall indeverdual packages i's asking me to uninstall like KDE multimedia [10:59] kdemultimedia will be a metapackage [10:59] I right click Amarok and Juk to uninstall, then it wants to remove KDE Desktop [10:59] it will not do any harm to remove it [10:59] it won't suddenly remove all your music players etc. [10:59] no, but there are some parts of multimedia I want [10:59] oh, so it will only get rid of Amarok? [10:59] it will only remove the packages you've asked it to [11:00] it automayicly selects other packages that I dont want to uninstall though [11:00] some of them wanted to remove kdebase :S [11:00] If it really were going to remove all the packages installed by 'kdemultimedia' then it would remove akode (>= 4:3.3.2-1), artsbuilder (>= 4:3.3.2-1), juk (>= 4:3.3.2-1), kaboodle (>= 4:3.3.2-1), kaudiocreator (>= 4:3.3.2-1), kdemultimedia-kappfinder-data etc. [11:00] (pasted from my Debian machine, but the logic is the same) [11:01] You must have chosen something pretty fundamental to remove if it wanted to remove kdebase :) [11:01] I see what you mean [11:01] ok let me see if this works [11:02] well, I@m still alive :P [11:02] :) [11:04] Alex[RM-UK] : you can do the server installation, that won't give you any unneeded packages (not even X, tough...) [11:04] then to get KDE I type at console apt-get KDE ? [11:05] nah actually, I'll stick with removing things === martin_ [~martin@pc-62-30-33-77-pr.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [11:07] whats a TNEF viewer? [11:08] It's for the shit attachments that MS Outlook generates [11:08] ever had an email with 'WINMAIL.DAT' attached? [11:08] oh right, wont be needing that then [11:08] yeh I have [11:08] that's what the TNEF viewer lets you view [11:08] oh right, [11:08] I'll get rid of that then [11:12]