| joaquin | alguien m puede decir cual es mejor el kununtu o el knoppix ????????????????????????? | 12:04 |
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| _Church_of_Foamy | mount: can't find /dev/hdd1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab | 12:06 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | Please check that the disk is entered correctly. | 12:06 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | what gives? | 12:06 |
| weedar | well, if you just plain mount it linux thinks you have all the other info in /etc/fstab | 12:06 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | i want it to be a drive used for storage | 12:07 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | and backups | 12:07 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | how to fix so i can mount | 12:07 |
| weedar | hang on | 12:07 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | kk' | 12:08 |
| weedar | _Church_of_Foamy: /dev/hdd1 /mnt/wherever ext3 defaults 0 0 | 12:08 |
| weedar | add that line to /etc/fstab but replace "wherever" for your mountpoint | 12:08 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | ok and how to teel what my mountpoint is? | 12:09 |
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| weedar | well, you decide. Me, I mount disks in the /mnt directory, giving each partition a describing name (like "storage","backup", etc.) | 12:09 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | i gave mine the name storage | 12:10 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | it's /dev/hdd1 | 12:10 |
| weedar | so the folder is /mnt/storage ? or just /storage? | 12:10 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | so i would put the name storage in there in place of wherever? | 12:11 |
| weedar | yes | 12:11 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | ok cool | 12:11 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | now how to edit the file? | 12:11 |
| dreumah | has anyone got knights working? the chess server? | 12:12 |
| osh_ | _Church_of_Foamy: wanna learn "vi"? ;-) | 12:12 |
| weedar | easy way is to use kedit or something, but you have to be root to do it | 12:12 |
| weedar | vi is nice when you know how and just masochistic if you don't | 12:12 |
| osh_ | vi is also standard on all unix-systems. learn that, use everywhere. sort of like java, but not. | 12:14 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | i was gonna use my favorite which is gedit | 12:14 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | vi would be scary to me right now lol | 12:14 |
| weedar | but osh_ is right, in the long run vi is handy | 12:15 |
| osh_ | _Church_of_Foamy: wanna get scared. try "ed". that's some really scary shit. :-) | 12:15 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | i bet but i'm afraid i would screw up my box | 12:15 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | and i have got it just the way i like it lol | 12:16 |
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| weedar | well you can't really know if it will break your system until you try ;P | 12:16 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | true | 12:16 |
| DickJack | hello | 12:16 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | but i'll stick with what i know for now lol | 12:16 |
| weedar | besides, in case you forgot the mantra for the day: it's "backup" | 12:17 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | i know thats why i'm trying to create this storage drve | 12:17 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | so i can backup lol | 12:17 |
| osh_ | Real men don't do backups. Real men cries. ;-) | 12:17 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | roflmao | 12:17 |
| crimsun | yeah, they cry after being fired for not making backups | 12:18 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | well smart men do backups lol | 12:18 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | do i wanna edit mtab or fstab? | 12:18 |
| weedar | fstab | 12:18 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | k | 12:18 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | [mntent] : line 7 in /etc/fstab is bad | 12:20 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | mount: can't find /dev/hdd1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab | 12:20 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | what the hell? | 12:21 |
| weedar | what command did you run to get that error? | 12:21 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | right clicked on the drive and selected mount | 12:22 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | /dev/hdd1 /mnt/storage ext3 defaults 0 0 | 12:22 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | is what i put into the fstab | 12:22 |
| \sh | do u created the directory /mnt/storage ? | 12:23 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | um i just formatted with qtparted and it asked me the name of the drive | 12:23 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | so i typed storage | 12:23 |
| weedar | oh, I tought you said you created the folder | 12:24 |
| weedar | just mkdir /mnt/storage | 12:24 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | nope | 12:24 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | ok | 12:24 |
| weedar | mount-poiunts must exist before use | 12:24 |
| weedar | s/poiunts/points | 12:25 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | damnit | 12:25 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | same error | 12:25 |
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| _Church_of_Foamy | do i need to be in the drive or something? | 12:26 |
| weedar | no | 12:26 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | damnit what did i do wrong? | 12:26 |
| weedar | pm me your /etc/fstab | 12:26 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | ok | 12:27 |
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| _Church_of_Foamy | i made a screensaver for kubuntu that emulates the "blue screen" of death | 12:29 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | just because i miss it lol | 12:29 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | weedar: sent you my fstab | 12:29 |
| weedar | yeah, I'm thinking :) | 12:29 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | oh ok lol | 12:30 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | i tryed that once it hert for days lol | 12:30 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | >.< | 12:30 |
| weedar | Foamy: if you in console type "sudo mount /mnt/storage", what happens? | 12:33 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | pm'd it to you | 12:34 |
| weedar | _Church_of_Foamy: ok, let's do this private :) | 12:35 |
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| Groov | one question, must i install ubuntu to install kubuntu? | 12:46 |
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| \sh | Groov: if u install ubuntu, then u need to sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop to get kubuntu | 12:46 |
| \sh | Groov: or u download the kubuntu install cd and install it directly | 12:47 |
| Groov | ive downloadet | 12:47 |
| Groov | but then when i install | 12:47 |
| Groov | it displays a error, the error is the disk i should brun slower or a network problem | 12:47 |
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| Groov | but i burned the disk slowly | 12:48 |
| \sh | Groov: how did u burn the cd? | 12:48 |
| Groov | ive downloadet ubuntu too, what must i install to have kubuntu? give it a "update-pack" ? | 12:48 |
| apollo2011 | I have (K)ubuntu system with both KDE and Gnome installed. I use KDE by default. However, I just noticed that the Switch User option is suddenly missing from my K Menu. | 12:49 |
| Groov | i wrote the .iso, also the image on cd | 12:49 |
| Groov | with 4X speed | 12:49 |
| Groov | ! | 12:49 |
| \sh | Groov: install ubuntu, after u r finished (setting up your network etc.) u can install kubuntu with this command: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" | 12:49 |
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| \sh | ok..going to bed now | 12:50 |
| Groov | ok | 12:50 |
| Tm_T | \sh: hmm, you looked that pykde&desktop script issue? | 12:50 |
| Groov | good night and thanks 4 help | 12:50 |
| \sh | Tm_T: yeah... | 12:50 |
| Tm_T | and? | 12:50 |
| \sh | Tm_T: preparing just now the next upload for pykde | 12:50 |
| Groov | good night @ll i think i tast it one more time | 12:50 |
| Groov | what "probieren" in english :P | 12:51 |
| \sh | try | 12:51 |
| dreumah | try | 12:51 |
| Groov | try | 12:51 |
| \sh | Groov: /join #ubuntu-de :) | 12:51 |
| Groov | omg | 12:51 |
| Groov | ^^ | 12:51 |
| Groov | thx | 12:51 |
| Groov | ^^ | 12:51 |
| Tm_T | \sh: ok, so I'll just use apt to update any moment now? | 12:51 |
| Groov | :P | 12:51 |
| \sh | Tm_T: during the day...i will send them to the buildd and put new hoary packages on my repos | 12:52 |
| Groov | good night | 12:52 |
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| \sh | need to sleep now | 12:52 |
| \sh | cu later today | 12:52 |
| Tm_T | \sh: ok thanks :) | 12:53 |
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| _Church_of_Foamy | how do i back up my entire hard drive using konserve? | 01:03 |
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| hussam | anybody here's running DVD movies on kaffeine? I have some question | 01:11 |
| duende | i do | 01:11 |
| duende | not sure if i can answer your question, but i'll try | 01:11 |
| hussam | what's css and encryption? do these movies come encrypted? | 01:12 |
| duende | Unfortunatly, many dvd's in the world come with css and region restrictions meaning that they can only be played on certain dvd players, etc. | 01:12 |
| gdh | ah. DVD101 :) | 01:12 |
| duende | this used to be a pain for trying to use dvd's in linux because of the encryptions, so, there was decss which allows for decryption | 01:13 |
| hussam | is css different than the region stuff? | 01:13 |
| gdh | nearly every commercial DVD is encoded with a trivial encryption system called CSS :) | 01:13 |
| duende | unfortunatly, this is illegal in many countries | 01:13 |
| hussam | is there a workaround? | 01:13 |
| duende | of course, this is linux :) | 01:13 |
| duende | many distributions don't come with dvd decryption because of the legalities | 01:14 |
| duende | the easiest thing to do, if you're using ubuntu, is to add a new apt source line | 01:14 |
| duende | i'll get it for you, one sec | 01:14 |
| hussam | Ok I got the stuff about css and encryption. What about the region stuff? any workaround for that? | 01:15 |
| gdh | CSS is region-coding. | 01:15 |
| duende | yeah, sorry, i wasn't more clear | 01:15 |
| gdh | No CSS = no concept of regions :) | 01:15 |
| duende | add the following lilne to your /etc/apt/sources.list file: deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main | 01:16 |
| duende | run apt-get update | 01:16 |
| hussam | I already have that line | 01:16 |
| duende | oh, ok | 01:16 |
| duende | sorry | 01:16 |
| hussam | what do I install? | 01:17 |
| duende | you were just asking what the purpose of dvdcss was | 01:17 |
| hussam | duende: I thought I was going to install something from ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main | 01:18 |
| duende | oh, yes, libdvdcss2 and libdvdcss2-dev | 01:18 |
| hussam | ok I'm installing them now. | 01:18 |
| duende | sorry, my blood-alcohol level is getting high | 01:18 |
| hussam | will this enable playing dvds from other regions? | 01:19 |
| duende | yes | 01:19 |
| gdh | Aye, don't be installing any 3D support software - drink + drivers don't mix. | 01:19 |
| duende | haha | 01:19 |
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| hussam | duende: ok thanks :) | 01:20 |
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| hussam | brb, have to reboot, thanks duende :) | 01:21 |
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| kalenedrael | ok, can anyone help me map caps lock to ctrl? | 01:29 |
| Tm_T | eh, why? | 01:30 |
| kalenedrael | idk, does it matter? :P | 01:30 |
| Tm_T | hmm, maybe I remap my capslock to shift =) | 01:30 |
| gdh | It'd certainly confuse the hell out of anyone who tried to use your computer. | 01:31 |
| Tm_T | why? | 01:32 |
| gdh | also apply dvorak keyboard layout. | 01:32 |
| Tm_T | I never use capslock anyway | 01:32 |
| gdh | I meant capslock to ctrl really :) | 01:32 |
| Tm_T | ah =) | 01:32 |
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| gdh | and map 'E' to Ctrl-Alt-Backspace :) | 01:33 |
| Tm_T | \o/ | 01:34 |
| dreumah | are the repos down? | 01:35 |
| Tm_T | hmm, no? | 01:35 |
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| dreumah | thats strange mine arent working, and they were earlier | 01:35 |
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| _Church_of_Foamy | does anyone here know how to do a complete harddrive backup? | 01:49 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | using konserve? | 01:49 |
| gdh | no idea what konserve is, I was about to suggest rsync :) | 01:49 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | whats rsync? | 01:49 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | i thought konserve was a backup utility for kubuntu | 01:50 |
| gdh | rsync is /the/ synchronisation tool :) | 01:50 |
| gdh | Konserve is a small backup application for the KDE environment. | 01:50 |
| gdh | It lives in the system tray and is able to create backups of | 01:50 |
| gdh | several directories or files periodically. | 01:50 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | oh ok | 01:50 |
| gdh | Don't know if I'd trust that description | 01:50 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | um yea | 01:50 |
| gdh | for a whole 'bare metal' backup | 01:50 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | ok so how do i use rsync? do i have to apt-get install it? | 01:51 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | gdh: how do i get rsync do i apt-get install it? | 01:52 |
| bobbyd | hi | 01:53 |
| bobbyd | what's the best way to deal with something that's an rpm? | 01:54 |
| bobbyd | I want to install doom3 | 01:54 |
| gdh | _Church_of_Foamy: rsync is a commandline app and isn't terribly friendly | 01:54 |
| gdh | but yes apt-get it | 01:54 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | ok um i want something freindly lol | 01:54 |
| gdh | bobbyd: you can try apt-get install alien .. then 'alien doom3.....rpm' | 01:54 |
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| _Church_of_Foamy | so i can backup my entire hd any ideas? | 01:55 |
| gdh | bobbyd: that will make 'a' .deb - fingers crossed it might even work | 01:55 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | you can get doom 3 for free? | 01:55 |
| bobbyd | gdh: ok I'll research alien | 01:55 |
| bobbyd | _Church_of_Foamy: the linux executable, but you need to buy the game to get the data and a key | 01:55 |
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| _Church_of_Foamy | oh ok | 01:55 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | damn lol | 01:55 |
| gdh | _Church_of_Foamy: 'entire HD' - do you mean the kind of backup where it puts it all on DVD and if your system fucks up, you just pop the DVD in and it self-boots from the BIOs and restores everything? | 01:56 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | no i mean back it up to a hard drive that is made just for strage | 01:56 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | storage | 01:56 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | cpio<--someone in ubuntu said try this | 01:57 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | should i? | 01:57 |
| gdh | yeh cpio is about the same level of 'low level' as rsync | 01:57 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | ouch | 01:58 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | no thanx lol | 01:58 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | need something freindlyer lol | 01:58 |
| gdh | maybe konserve will serve you.. no idea :) | 01:58 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | <--windows free for 29 days and lovin it ^_^ | 01:58 |
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| nxv_ | hi i can't setup my wlan with wpa, without encryption it works. i am stuck and don't have any more idears what to do | 02:06 |
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| gdh | nxv_: don't use wep/wpa and run something like ipsec or openvpn on top of the 'unencrypted' WLAN? | 02:07 |
| nxv_ | gdh: i wan't to use wpa with my hardware dsl router. so i have to use the encryption it already implements | 02:08 |
| gdh | ah, fair enough.. | 02:08 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | linux rocks ^_^ | 02:08 |
| gdh | no idea :) | 02:08 |
| gdh | nxv_: don't suppose it's a linksys ? :) | 02:10 |
| nxv_ | gdh: no it's an belkin router, why? | 02:10 |
| gdh | nxv_: http://www.seattlewireless.net/index.cgi/LinksysWrt54g | 02:11 |
| gdh | etc. :) | 02:11 |
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| Mez | mez@apathy:~$ artsdsp audacity | 02:17 |
| Mez | /home/mez/.kde/share/config/gtkrc:37: error: unexpected identifier `gtk-alternative-button-order', expected keyword - e.g. `style' | 02:17 |
| Mez | Segmentation fault | 02:17 |
| Mez | any ideas anyone | 02:17 |
| kalenedrael | ok, so, how do i go about mapping caps lock to ctrl? | 02:24 |
| kalenedrael | i don't want to swap caps and ctrl, i want both of them to mean ctrl | 02:24 |
| uniq | kalenedrael: easy you can do it in the control center. | 02:25 |
| kalenedrael | ok | 02:25 |
| uniq | control center -> regional & accessibility -> keyboard layout -> xkb options (tab) -> [x] enable xkb options -> take a look in the list. | 02:26 |
| kalenedrael | ok, that was very easy | 02:26 |
| kalenedrael | thanks | 02:26 |
| uniq | you're welcome :) | 02:26 |
| kalenedrael | there was an option called "Make Caps Lock an additional Control" | 02:27 |
| uniq | yes, that's what you described :) | 02:27 |
| gdh | Isn't that for users of Sun keyboards where Ctrl is where CapsLock is on a PC keyboard? | 02:28 |
| gdh | and Alt is the ubiquitous 'meta' key? | 02:29 |
| uniq | or for users like me. I never use caps, i use ctrl alot. | 02:29 |
| uniq | making caps an additional control is great. | 02:29 |
| kalenedrael | yes | 02:29 |
| kalenedrael | it's easier on the hands | 02:29 |
| kalenedrael | you don't have to move your hands as far | 02:30 |
| kalenedrael | oh, and now i won't be accidentally hitting caps, because there is no caps key | 02:30 |
| gdh | I think the Amiga also had Ctrl where caps is... | 02:30 |
| uniq | it makes sense. | 02:32 |
| uniq | caps is misplaced. | 02:32 |
| uniq | well, i'll call it a day. | 02:33 |
| uniq | gnite guys. | 02:33 |
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| Dent | aroo? | 02:35 |
| Dent | trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/default.kde', which is also in package knetworkconf | 02:35 |
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| cydizen | hello everyone. | 02:37 |
| cydizen | Has anyone installed the Nvidia Drivers, and have is break thier sound? | 02:37 |
| cydizen | *it | 02:37 |
| kalenedrael | no... | 02:37 |
| cydizen | Just installed Kubuntu lastnight in my search for a better distro, just trying to iron out the details | 02:38 |
| kalenedrael | yeah | 02:39 |
| kalenedrael | took me a while too... | 02:39 |
| cydizen | everything worked fine with the (nv) driver, just no openGL, so I installed the prop. driver from the repository, rebooted, with no sound | 02:39 |
| kalenedrael | no no no don't do that, build your own driver | 02:39 |
| kalenedrael | download the driver package from nvidia.com | 02:39 |
| cydizen | really | 02:39 |
| kalenedrael | yeah | 02:39 |
| cydizen | should I apt-get remove the other driver? | 02:40 |
| kalenedrael | i'd suggest it | 02:40 |
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| cydizen | I will get right on that. | 02:40 |
| cydizen | Back in a bit. Thanks kalendrael | 02:40 |
| kalenedrael | np | 02:40 |
| kalenedrael | wait | 02:40 |
| kalenedrael | before you go... | 02:40 |
| cydizen | yea... | 02:41 |
| kalenedrael | i'd also suggest downloading several versions of it | 02:41 |
| kalenedrael | the newest is 1.0-7167 | 02:41 |
| cydizen | okay.. | 02:41 |
| kalenedrael | i'd get 6111 and up | 02:41 |
| kalenedrael | in case the newest doesn't work | 02:41 |
| cydizen | and just experiment? | 02:41 |
| kalenedrael | try the older ones sequentially... | 02:41 |
| cydizen | sounds lick a plan. | 02:41 |
| cydizen | like | 02:41 |
| kalenedrael | i recall having problems with anything newer than 6111 | 02:42 |
| kalenedrael | but that's me... | 02:42 |
| cydizen | nope, I am going to do that right now. | 02:42 |
| cydizen | once again, thank you | 02:42 |
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| dreumah | hello can some one help me figure out my repos, i must have messed them up because nothing is working | 03:09 |
| dreumah | ? | 03:09 |
| dreumah | aight i ll try in the morning then | 03:10 |
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| Brazmetal | Hola people.... I have a problem, kmix doesn't save my sound settings.... Need help. | 03:14 |
| Brazmetal | :( | 03:20 |
| kalenedrael | hmm | 03:21 |
| kalenedrael | ok, try setting it, then go to the K menu and select "Save session" | 03:21 |
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| rexykik | how do i change defaults for hotplug so that it doesnt autosync on mount? | 03:22 |
| kalenedrael | be warned that "save session" will also remember what windows/programs you have open | 03:22 |
| kalenedrael | hmmm, why would you want to do that, rexykik? | 03:22 |
| rexykik | because sync is bad for fat32 drives | 03:22 |
| kalenedrael | hm | 03:23 |
| Brazmetal | do you know the PCM setting? | 03:23 |
| kalenedrael | i never came across that | 03:23 |
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| rexykik | well, when i try to save to the drive using bittorrent, it tells me that it cannot allocate the directory | 03:23 |
| rexykik | which is problem #1 | 03:23 |
| rexykik | while explaining that to the BT chan, they told me that it was bad to sync on a fat32 drive | 03:24 |
| rexykik | but now say that it makes sense, since i am using the drive in an external inclosure via usb | 03:24 |
| Brazmetal | kalenedrael, so, everytime I play new song in xmms, the pcm setting in kmix goes back to 100% | 03:24 |
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| kalenedrael | that's odd | 03:25 |
| Brazmetal | I think pcm controls the noise level... | 03:25 |
| rexykik | yup. | 03:25 |
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| Brazmetal | kalenedrael, I don't have "Save Session" in the K menu.... Where is it? | 03:32 |
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| closure | hello everyone | 03:33 |
| closure | anybody know why backports is down? | 03:33 |
| kalenedrael | umm, it may not be there, Brazmetal | 03:33 |
| kalenedrael | but in kubuntu i think it is | 03:33 |
| kalenedrael | what are the items right at the bottom of the menu? | 03:34 |
| Brazmetal | just the common ones, execute, close,block, | 03:35 |
| closure | how do i edit my repositories? | 03:35 |
| closure | i forgot | 03:35 |
| Brazmetal | closure, /etc/apt/sources.list | 03:36 |
| kalenedrael | ? | 03:36 |
| kalenedrael | it should be that menu with all your apps in it... | 03:36 |
| closure | thanks | 03:36 |
| kalenedrael | should contain like "Lock session" "Log out" "Switch user"... | 03:37 |
| Brazmetal | yes | 03:37 |
| closure | oh for fucks sake i still can't get backports to respond | 03:37 |
| closure | : Couldn't stat source package list http://backports.ubuntuforums.org hoary-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/backports.ubuntuforums.org_ubp_dists_hoary-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) | 03:38 |
| closure | W: Couldn't stat source package list http://backports.ubuntuforums.org hoary-backports/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/backports.ubuntuforums.org_ubp_dists_hoary-backports_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) | 03:38 |
| closure | W: Couldn't stat source package list http://backports.ubuntuforums.org hoary-backports/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/backports.ubuntuforums.org_ubp_dists_hoary-backports_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) | 03:38 |
| closure | W: Couldn't stat source package list http://backports.ubuntuforums.org hoary-backports/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/backports.ubuntuforums.org_ubp_dists_hoary-backports_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) | 03:38 |
| closure | W: Couldn't stat source package list http://backports.ubuntuforums.org hoary-extras/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/backports.ubuntuforums.org_ubp_dists_hoary-extras_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) | 03:38 |
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| closure | W: Couldn't stat source package list http://backports.ubuntuforums.org hoary-extras/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/backports.ubuntuforums.org_ubp_dists_hoary-extras_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) | 03:38 |
| closure | W: Couldn't stat source package list http://backports.ubuntuforums.org hoary-extras/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/backports.ubuntuforums.org_ubp_dists_hoary-extras_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) | 03:38 |
| closure | W: Couldn't stat source package list http://backports.ubuntuforums.org hoary-extras/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/backports.ubuntuforums.org_ubp_dists_hoary-extras_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) | 03:38 |
| closure | W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems | 03:39 |
| closure | E: Some index files failed to download, t | 03:39 |
| closure | whtat | 03:39 |
| closure | errr what does that mean? | 03:39 |
| kalenedrael | O.o don't flood | 03:40 |
| kalenedrael | just type "apt-get update" | 03:41 |
| closure | oh man | 03:41 |
| closure | if kdelibs crashes my system again | 03:41 |
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| closure | i'm going to be so pissed | 03:41 |
| kalenedrael | hell, if it says "W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems" then by all means do so | 03:42 |
| closure | yeah | 03:42 |
| closure | i did that | 03:42 |
| closure | that's what i got | 03:42 |
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| kalenedrael | oh | 03:43 |
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| kalenedrael | well... | 03:43 |
| kalenedrael | backports may be down | 03:43 |
| gdh | something from the forums is unlikely to be a 'supported service' so don't be surprised if it dies from time to time. | 03:43 |
| kalenedrael | i know that the whole thing was down yesterday | 03:43 |
| closure | gdh i know this | 03:44 |
| closure | it just seems to crash all the time | 03:44 |
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| rexykik | how do i make an ext3 partition? | 03:53 |
| rexykik | can i do it through cfdisk? | 03:53 |
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| gdh | you make partitions with cfdisk... once a partition is made.. you choose what fs to put on it | 03:57 |
| rexykik | oh...right... | 03:57 |
| gdh | with mkfs.ext3.. or mkfs.reiser or mkfs.xfs etc. | 03:57 |
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| Chislon | hello | 03:58 |
| gdh | hullo | 03:58 |
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| Chislon | i like the way KDE looks rather then gnome.. but i dont see a kubuntu download from the ubuntu site, i was told to check here | 03:59 |
| Chislon | or ask ehre | 03:59 |
| Chislon | *er ask here | 03:59 |
| rexykik | no | 03:59 |
| rexykik | goto the kubuntu site | 03:59 |
| Chislon | they are so different that they need different sites and rooms? | 03:59 |
| Chislon | The Kubuntu project aims to be to KDE what Ubuntu is to Gnome: an integrated distro with all the great features of Ubuntu, but based on the KDE desktop. | 04:00 |
| Chislon | what is ubuntu to gnome? | 04:00 |
| Chislon | just that ubuntu is a great distro | 04:00 |
| Chislon | but this one is for kde? | 04:00 |
| closure | desktop debian | 04:00 |
| Chislon | ? | 04:00 |
| closure | bus uses the gnome desktop environment | 04:01 |
| Chislon | desktop debian? | 04:01 |
| rexykik | you mean windows manager? | 04:01 |
| closure | as opposed to K Desktop Environment(KDE) | 04:01 |
| closure | rexykik, sure whatever | 04:01 |
| rexykik | yup | 04:01 |
| rexykik | meaning that its pretty as hell | 04:01 |
| rexykik | you can tweak the setting to hoolah | 04:01 |
| rexykik | uhm...can edit the kmenu lots easier | 04:02 |
| rexykik | bit more memory intensive, but i think its worth it | 04:02 |
| closure | it runs faster on mine | 04:03 |
| closure | and this is an old box | 04:03 |
| closure | 450mhz/128mb physical ram | 04:03 |
| rexykik | laptop or just old box? | 04:03 |
| gdh | I have an older machine and I certainly found KDE was smoother than GNOME.. | 04:03 |
| closure | laptop | 04:04 |
| closure | maybe it's just that i mean i don't do anything intensive on this besides web browsing | 04:04 |
| closure | it's all chat really | 04:04 |
| closure | well | 04:04 |
| closure | i have my news ticker/weather and shit but Opera is definitely the heftiest | 04:05 |
| rexykik | opera is a browser, no? | 04:05 |
| closure | yeah | 04:05 |
| closure | it doesn | 04:05 |
| rexykik | hows it compare to firefox? | 04:05 |
| closure | 't like multimedia so far as i can get it to work | 04:05 |
| closure | but i don't really mind that much | 04:05 |
| rexykik | ahh | 04:05 |
| closure | and | 04:05 |
| gdh | Opera is at least Qt based :) | 04:05 |
| closure | it has trouble with some shock stuff | 04:06 |
| rexykik | heh heh | 04:06 |
| gdh | even if it is commercial shite-from-hell :)) | 04:06 |
| closure | i'm sure someone smarter than i could configure the damn thing to work | 04:06 |
| closure | but i can't seem to make it work right | 04:06 |
| gdh | konqueror and firefox with flashplayer-nonfree seem to work fine... | 04:07 |
| gdh | is shockwave still a seperate thing? does anyone use the full shockwave thesedays? | 04:07 |
| closure | what's flashplayer-nonfree? | 04:08 |
| gdh | I mean, aside from on CD-ROM demos and presentations... | 04:08 |
| closure | *shrugs* | 04:08 |
| gdh | closure: the macromedia flash player... | 04:08 |
| closure | i've always just used it | 04:08 |
| gdh | pre-packaged for kubuntu | 04:08 |
| closure | hrm | 04:08 |
| closure | i wonder if i have that | 04:08 |
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| rexykik | look in kynaptic | 04:09 |
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| gdh | it'll be in multiverse | 04:09 |
| gdh | which is neither enabled by default nor commented out in the apt sources.list | 04:10 |
| gdh | duplicate the 'universe' line and replace universe with multiverse | 04:10 |
| gdh | it's the equivalent of debian's 'non-free' repository | 04:10 |
| closure | what's non-free? | 04:11 |
| closure | just what it says? | 04:11 |
| gdh | Non-Free Software as per http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html | 04:11 |
| gdh | free to use, but that's often about the biggest freedom it provides | 04:11 |
| closure | so should i enable those repos? | 04:12 |
| closure | the nonfree? | 04:12 |
| gdh | universe is a good one to have.. | 04:12 |
| closure | ok | 04:12 |
| gdh | there is very little in multiverse (fortunately :) | 04:12 |
| gdh | the flashplayer-nonfree is about the most useful thing there. | 04:13 |
| gdh | and hopefully when Konq supports this AJAX stuff properly (think maps.google.com .... ) Flash will become less important for websites | 04:13 |
| gdh | as developers finally start to get a clue about cross-platform support | 04:13 |
| gdh | Yes, I live in a utopian world :) | 04:14 |
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| gdh | one day... one day.... ;) | 04:14 |
| closure | hrm | 04:14 |
| closure | i hope to god cause i hate flash | 04:15 |
| closure | it's trash | 04:15 |
| gdh | Flash is a horrible thing whose only justifiable purpose is to 'make funny movies' | 04:15 |
| rexykik | was about to say that gdh | 04:15 |
| closure | it reminds me of this program we had on macs way way back | 04:15 |
| rexykik | but the funny movie is rather good | 04:15 |
| closure | the apple II and first iMacs | 04:16 |
| gdh | any company proudly having a flash-only website deserves a huge fine for breaking the disability access regs. | 04:16 |
| closure | gdh damn right | 04:16 |
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| sproingie | foo | 05:09 |
| sproingie | i have spent all damn day trying to find a distro that will install in qemu | 05:09 |
| sproingie | kubuntu gives me mysterious errors. ubuntu livecd gets crashy. fedora configures itself fubared. | 05:10 |
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| rich52 | I need some help, anyone know how to get kynaptic to work again? It's disappeared. Apt-get in the Konsole works but I like the graphic interface of Kynaptic. . . | 05:14 |
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| jkeel | does anyone know what package Qt assistant and designer are in? | 05:19 |
| jkeel | I can't find them.. | 05:19 |
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| nate__ | how do you reload x, not restart it? someone said something about it the other day and i forgot | 05:47 |
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| transgress | anyone installed ubuntu-desktop after installing kubuntu? | 05:57 |
| ChinaCatJones | transgress, i have | 05:59 |
| transgress | ChinaCatJones: have any problems with it? | 06:05 |
| transgress | i had all kinds or problems when i tried installing kubuntu-desktop from ubuntu | 06:06 |
| ChinaCatJones | transgress: I don't recall having any problems going from k to u, but I had some really oddball one's going from u to k | 06:12 |
| transgress | ChinaCatJones: cool thanks | 06:13 |
| transgress | yeah gdm and kdm stopped working when i tried going from u to k | 06:13 |
| ChinaCatJones | the only thing I can think of is that kubuntu seems to install with a lot of gnome underpinnings | 06:13 |
| ChinaCatJones | and those underpinnings are what cause the problem going the other way | 06:14 |
| transgress | k | 06:14 |
| transgress | well i guess i might as well give it a shot | 06:14 |
| transgress | i decided i wanted gnome back | 06:15 |
| closure | lol | 06:28 |
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| transgress | brb | 07:06 |
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| weedar | ChinaCatJones: deadhead? | 07:50 |
| ChinaCatJones | weedar- aiko aiko! | 08:11 |
| weedar | ChinaCatJones: I've been thinking for two minutes now, trying to find a comeback or hip reply but no can do so; Hi, I like the Dead too | 08:13 |
| ChinaCatJones | weedar: no problem | 08:15 |
| weedar | although I could say your nick is composed partially of my two favorite songs :) | 08:16 |
| ChinaCatJones | weedar: mine too, right now I am fighting with my router's firewall and furthur | 08:18 |
| ChinaCatJones | i am thinking about awarding Verizon a badge for the fun police | 08:19 |
| weedar | I still haven't used furthurnet, but I assume the problem is solved by port-forwarding the relevant port to your IP? | 08:21 |
| ChinaCatJones | weedar: for the most part yes, but it appears Verizon is blocking well known ports for p2p apps | 08:23 |
| weedar | Verizon is an ISP then I assume? | 08:23 |
| ChinaCatJones | yes, they are one of the larger telco's in the US | 08:25 |
| weedar | it's funny how all the large telco's in the world have the worst policies | 08:26 |
| ChinaCatJones | i am cringing about what happens when I need port 110 and 25 | 08:27 |
| weedar | Well of course they have to block the ports for email, that's the main source of viruses, they're actually doing you a favor | 08:29 |
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| ChinaCatJones | weedar: or as M$ would say, it's a feature | 08:30 |
| weedar | :D | 08:31 |
| weedar | There is no way you can make furthur use a different port? | 08:31 |
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| weedar | ChinaCatJones: It seems to be suggested that you try using port 80, for example, and I assume that one isn't blocked :) | 08:33 |
| ChinaCatJones | weedar: I moved the port, I just wanted to make sure I wans't going to be stepping on something else | 08:33 |
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| ubuntu | I'm using the live cd, can someone tell me how to mount my harddrive please? | 08:37 |
| weedar | ChinaCatJones: I downloaded everything from gdlive.com ages ago, what will furthur give me that I don't already have? (I want a sales-pitch here) | 08:39 |
| ChinaCatJones | weedar: Further has a lot more than just the Dead and the dead offshoots, in addition they do video etc, and most of the stuff is lossless | 08:40 |
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| weedar | lossless you say, that sounds interesting. I've also been dying to get hold of some videos, all I have are most of their DVDs (commercial ones) | 08:41 |
| espiem | hello | 08:41 |
| espiem | i need to know how to refresh panel in kde. | 08:42 |
| weedar | when my gf gave me anthem to beauty and downhill from here as a christmas gift I considered marrying her, but I'm holding out until she gets me view from the vault I-IV ;) | 08:43 |
| espiem | :-) | 08:43 |
| ChinaCatJones | ha ha ha | 08:44 |
| weedar | which repository do you use to get furthur, or did you dl the tarballl ChinaCatJones? | 08:45 |
| espiem | gnome use killall gnome-panel. kde? | 08:45 |
| ChinaCatJones | weedar I got the tarball, setup was cake | 08:45 |
| weedar | I'll try that then :) | 08:45 |
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| _Church_of_Foamy | anyone know how to set permissions on your hard drive? | 09:44 |
| bruno | my hard disk doesn't keep spinning (for ten minutes) when I do hdparm -S 120 /dev/hda. I remember this working on suse so I don't think it's the hardware ... Any clues? | 09:46 |
| bruno | I mean I kept spinning on suse, but I didn't have to use hdparm ... Yast offered an option to keep the disk spinning | 09:50 |
| weedar | _Church_of_Foamy: chmod changes permissions for folders, chown changes owner, but remember that a mount-point will get it's owner changed to whoever mounts i | 09:54 |
| weedar | s/i/it | 09:54 |
| _Church_of_Foamy | kk | 09:54 |
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| de`angelo | !neep help on setting up network | 10:07 |
| de`angelo | anybody please | 10:07 |
| de`angelo | hello | 10:08 |
| osh_ | de`angelo: what's the problem? | 10:09 |
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| SquishyWaffle | Guess it's active here this early in the morning :) | 11:15 |
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| Alex[RM-UK] | Hi there guys | 11:17 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | I have a file on my pc with the extension of '.deb' how do I install this with apt-get? It's a debian package so it will work | 11:18 |
| opi | dpkg -i package.deb | 11:18 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | Thanks :) | 11:19 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | _Church_of_Foamy, I just installed Cedega on my Kubuntu box, and I cant find that Point to Play thing you were on about? | 11:22 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | Where about's is it? | 11:22 |
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| Alex[RM-UK] | I download the ATI check.sh to see what version of X I have, and it wont run it says: | 11:30 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | You are either not running this script from the console | 11:30 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | or simply do not have console ownership. Requirement failed. | 11:30 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | Unable to determine XFree86 Version. Stopping now. | 11:30 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | Im root, running it from console | 11:30 |
| ToutPT|ppc|fr | [amsg] go a la plage (sea sex and sun) | 11:45 |
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| spiral | does anyone here know if & when koffice 1.4rc1 will be packaged for hoary as beta1 was ? | 11:45 |
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| Alex[RM-UK] | Hi, | 11:58 |
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| Alex[RM-UK] | I need some help setting up my ATI drivers. I have got them installed by going sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglr | 11:59 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | I then installed the control panel by doing sudo apt-get install fglrx-control | 11:59 |
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| Alex[RM-UK] | I restarted the computer, and saw the new icon in the Kmenu. I clicked on it and there is only 2 tabs. One Information and 1 TV out. | 11:59 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | How do I set up AA, OpenGL settings etc? | 12:00 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | Also an error comes up with I load the control panel. Saying: | 12:00 |
| nxv_ | what exactly is in the initrd files? i build kernels from kernel.org before, but didn't need those initrd | 12:00 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | Driver does not provide the FireGL X11 Extensions! Panel componetns will opertate only partily | 12:01 |
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| markc | I've just been thru kynaptic and I didn;t find anything to do with nvidia drivers for amd64, is there some info about how to doeal with nvidia drivers under amd64 somewhere ? | 12:07 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | try the wiki | 12:08 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto | 12:09 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | not sure if that has amd64 in it | 12:09 |
| markc | thanks, a search on the wiki led to a fairly specific forum posting... a bit old but enough to the idea | 12:19 |
| markc | bah, kynaptic crashed | 12:20 |
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| dreumah | hello can someone help me with my repos, kynaptics keeps giving me this error but for every site, i cant update or nothing "Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_main_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)" | 12:27 |
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| Alex[RM-UK] | markc, no problem. Kynaptic usualy crahses on me too, sometimes it doesnt even load | 12:29 |
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| uniq | dreumah: try 'sudo apt-get update' from konsole | 12:30 |
| dreumah | doesnt work | 12:30 |
| dreumah | tried that | 12:30 |
| uniq | what does the error say? | 12:31 |
| dreumah | tons of errors, but the last one says | 12:31 |
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| dreumah | Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused) | 12:32 |
| uniq | ah. | 12:32 |
| wizzard | hi, pls how can I get KDE 3.4.1 using apt-get in Kubuntu? | 12:32 |
| dreumah | that is the relevant one i think | 12:32 |
| uniq | yes. you've been using a proxy. which doesn't run anylonger. | 12:32 |
| dreumah | ok how do i get rid of it | 12:33 |
| dreumah | i uninstall anon-proxy, as that is what i tried to use | 12:33 |
| dreumah | but still no luck | 12:33 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | wizzard, sudo apt-get install kde | 12:33 |
| _henning | kde3.4.1, use "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop -by" | 12:33 |
| markc | wizzard: deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary-updates main | 12:33 |
| uniq | dreumah: 'sudo grep -i proxy /etc/environment' - what does this say? | 12:33 |
| dreumah | nothing, skips line and then waits for another command | 12:34 |
| uniq | ok, good. | 12:34 |
| wizzard | thank you very much, I needed that source | 12:34 |
| _henning | hmm, anyone who can give a little help for ftp? vsFTPD ? | 12:35 |
| uniq | dreumah: 'sudo grep -i proxy /etc/apt/apt.conf' | 12:35 |
| Goshawk | why kde3.4.1 is not on the main apt source? | 12:35 |
| markc | _henning> client or server ? | 12:35 |
| dreumah | grep: /etc/apt/apt.conf: No such file or directory | 12:35 |
| _henning | server | 12:35 |
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| _henning | markc: server | 12:35 |
| markc | _henning> you want help with a specific one or any suggestions ? | 12:36 |
| uniq | dreumah: ok good, 'grep -iR /etc/apt/' | 12:36 |
| _henning | markc: I've just runned "apt-get remove vsftpd" now im gonna do "apt-get install vsftpd -by" | 12:37 |
| dreumah | it doesnt do anything | 12:37 |
| markc | _henning> ie; I use pure-ftpd-mysql so I can help you with that one, otherwise I can't really help | 12:37 |
| uniq | dreumah: ok. what does 'env|grep -i proxy' say then? | 12:38 |
| _henning | markc: ok, what is should i type in apt-get? | 12:38 |
| dreumah | http_proxy=http://localhost:4001 | 12:38 |
| dreumah | HTTP_PROXY=http://localhost:4001 | 12:38 |
| uniq | there we go. | 12:38 |
| markc | _henning> apt-get install pure-ftpd-mysql | 12:39 |
| uniq | just need to find out where you have set those. | 12:39 |
| _henning | markc: ok | 12:39 |
| markc | _henning> which will also install mysql if you do not already have it onboard | 12:39 |
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| dreumah | well would i have set that manually? | 12:39 |
| uniq | dreumah: did you set them manually when you installed the proxy? | 12:40 |
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| _henning | markc: Couldn't find package pure-ftpd-mysql | 12:40 |
| dreumah | no i dont think so | 12:40 |
| markc | _henning> the good thing about it is that you can have users and homedirs totally in mysql and nothing to do with users in /etc/passwd | 12:40 |
| dreumah | nah, i didnt the program did it for me | 12:40 |
| uniq | markc: the bad thing is that you need mysql :) | 12:40 |
| uniq | dreumah: ok.. give me a minute.. i'll check. | 12:41 |
| markc | _henning> you might have to edit /etc/apt/sources.list and add "universe" to the right deb line | 12:41 |
| dreumah | thanks | 12:41 |
| uniq | markc: do you remember the package name? | 12:41 |
| _henning | markc: ok, but then i need the MySQL server, and if it should by remote, apache2, php4, and phpMyAdmin :P | 12:41 |
| markc | uniq> for what ? mysql ? = mysql-server | 12:41 |
| uniq | gah.. wrong nick. | 12:41 |
| uniq | dreumah: do you remember the package name? anon-proxy? | 12:42 |
| dreumah | yeah | 12:42 |
| _henning | markc: im in the file, what now? | 12:42 |
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| markc | _henning> true, but those progs are handy anyway, if you can use them for other things... phpmyadmin would be handy... pure-ftpd also comes in a version without needing mysql, but I've never used it | 12:42 |
| _henning | markc: ok, wanna try out with the MySQL, but what now with the list? | 12:43 |
| markc | _henning> uncomment the line half way down that includes universe, and apt-get update again | 12:43 |
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| markc | _henning> deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main universe <- something like this (I added main, but that's already another line) | 12:44 |
| _henning | markc: arh, ok, that will work with Kubuntu? | 12:45 |
| markc | _henning> I just installed it... about to set it up myself | 12:45 |
| uniq | dreumah: try to do this: 'sudo apt-get --purge remove libxerces25' | 12:45 |
| _henning | markc: ok ;9 | 12:45 |
| _henning | ;) | 12:45 |
| markc | _henning> if you check out kynaptic you'll notice all the extra packages not in base, they're from "universe"... so it's handy to have them available | 12:46 |
| markc | not in "main" I think Ishould have said | 12:46 |
| uniq | dreumah: and after that, test with 'sudo source /etc/environment' and 'sudo apt-get update' - everything will work cleanly after a re-login. | 12:47 |
| _henning | markc: yeah, it did look like something were missing... | 12:47 |
| _henning | markc: running "apt-get update" now | 12:47 |
| _henning | markc: Just installed pure now, | 12:48 |
| dreumah | E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) | 12:48 |
| dreumah | E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? | 12:48 |
| dreumah | that is the error i got | 12:48 |
| dreumah | try the purge | 12:49 |
| dreumah | trying* | 12:49 |
| uniq | dreumah: with sudo? | 12:49 |
| markc | _henning> I set up isp systems and I use apache2 etc, courier for mail, pure-ftpd, and they all work out of mysql so users do not have shell accounts on the server | 12:49 |
| dreumah | yeah | 12:49 |
| _henning | markc: that sounds just what i want, trying to do that :D | 12:49 |
| markc | _henning> a full LAMP(HP) server with virtual user account ? | 12:51 |
| dreumah | ok one second its doing something now | 12:51 |
| markc | accounts | 12:51 |
| uniq | dreumah: 'sudo fuser -vk /var/lib/dpkg/lock' if you get that error again. | 12:51 |
| dreumah | its being removed | 12:52 |
| _henning | markc: I've read about LAMP, how do i remove my current apache2 and php? maybe MySQL to? Kinda of a newbie at linux :( | 12:52 |
| markc | _henning> remove them ? why... that is half a LAMP server :) | 12:53 |
| dreumah | it didnt purge | 12:54 |
| _henning | markc: oh ok, can LAMP be D/L by apt-get? | 12:54 |
| dreumah | no it did | 12:54 |
| dreumah | but the cvs wouldnt update | 12:54 |
| dreumah | the source commman just gows to a next line | 12:54 |
| markc | _henning> LAMP = apache + mysql + php (and/or perl python) | 12:55 |
| dreumah | and the update error is still the same | 12:55 |
| uniq | dreumah: try to logout and login again. | 12:55 |
| markc | _henning> damn good point though, there should be a lamp-1.0.0.deb :-) | 12:55 |
| uniq | dreumah: wait, you said it didn't purge? | 12:56 |
| _henning | markc: im okay, with FTP, apache2, php4 and MySQL | 12:56 |
| dreumah | no it did | 12:56 |
| uniq | dreumah: 'sudo dpkg -P anon-proxy' | 12:56 |
| dreumah | but the env|grep -i proxy still gives the same info as it did earlier | 12:57 |
| markc | _henning> cool, apt-get install phpmyadmin then | 12:57 |
| _henning | markc: how do i use and config pure-ftpd-mysql?, gonna D/L phpMyAdmin now ;) | 12:57 |
| hussam | Hi, I have Kubuntu installed on a 32GB hard disk. I still have 25GB empty space left. Is there anyway to move the installation + boot record to another bigger hard disk? | 12:57 |
| uniq | dreumah: yes, that's because you haven't relogged in. but now it's purged right? | 12:57 |
| dreumah | yes | 12:58 |
| uniq | dreumah: when it's purged, just re-login. | 12:58 |
| dreumah | ok in a bit then | 12:58 |
| uniq | sure. | 12:58 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | damm ATI drivers, bliiming bitch to install | 01:00 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | anyone know how to set them up and get the ATI control working? Mine only shows Information and TV out tabs | 01:00 |
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| dreumah | hey hey | 01:00 |
| dreumah | so the update worked | 01:00 |
| dreumah | thank you so much | 01:00 |
| dreumah | uniq | 01:01 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | Anyone know how to Setup ATI drivers? | 01:02 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | Everyone gone to the toilet at same time or something? | 01:09 |
| pointwood | we're not all females, so no ;) | 01:10 |
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| Alex[RM-UK] | lol | 01:11 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | how do I setup ATI drivers? | 01:12 |
| \sh | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto | 01:13 |
| \sh | this is how :) | 01:13 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | Aye I tried that, but when I open ATI control, it says Driver does not provide the FireGL X11 Extensions! Panel componetns will opertate only partily | 01:14 |
| nxv_ | how do i get my self compiled kernel running | 01:14 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | and so I cant set up OpenGL or DirectX and there is no tab for it | 01:14 |
| pointwood | DirectX? | 01:14 |
| nxv_ | i included the fs i use, ext2 and ext3, devfs and the ide driver i belive my centrino notebooks uses, but i am not shure if it is the right one | 01:15 |
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| Alex[RM-UK] | :( | 01:15 |
| nxv_ | the kernel complains: cannot open root devie at boot | 01:15 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | cant set up DirectX I take it in linux ? lol | 01:15 |
| pointwood | directx is windows tech | 01:15 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | aye suppose so | 01:15 |
| pointwood | I would like to hear if you can get that to work in linux though ;) | 01:16 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | I need the XORG package, not the Xfree for ATI yes, no? | 01:16 |
| pointwood | I'm not familiar with the ati drivers | 01:16 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | :( | 01:16 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | oh well, lets try again | 01:16 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | lol | 01:16 |
| pointwood | just heard that they can be a PITA | 01:16 |
| pointwood | Nvidia is doing better in the linux drivers dept. AFAIK | 01:16 |
| \sh | Alex[RM-UK] : if u r using xorg, u need the xorg-driver-fglrx package. | 01:16 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | I dont know if I am or not | 01:17 |
| \sh | Alex[RM-UK] : and uhave to adjust the xorg.conf like on the wiki page described. if there is a tab in the ati management console, i don't know...i don't use this crap | 01:17 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | ok | 01:17 |
| \sh | Alex[RM-UK] : what distri? ubuntu/kubuntu hoary? then xorg | 01:17 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | well gotta restart,. | 01:17 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | Kubuntu 5.04 | 01:17 |
| \sh | xorg-driver-fglrx | 01:17 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | ok | 01:17 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | gotta restart cya | 01:17 |
| Tm_T | \sh: hmm, did you uploaded newer pykde? | 01:23 |
| \sh | Tm_T: for breezy this morning | 01:23 |
| \sh | for hoary i have to recompile just now | 01:23 |
| Tm_T | great | 01:23 |
| Tm_T | thank you :) | 01:23 |
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| \sh | Tm_T: building right now | 01:48 |
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| Tm_T | \sh: ok, just hilight me when I should try to apt-get it ;) | 01:51 |
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| \sh | Tm_T: ping | 02:17 |
| Tm_T | pong | 02:17 |
| \sh | http://archive.linux-server.org/hoary.php | 02:17 |
| Tm_T | hmm | 02:17 |
| Tm_T | python2.4-kde3: Depends: python2.4-qt3 (>= 3.14) but 3.13-4ubuntu2 is to be installed | 02:18 |
| Tm_T | =) | 02:18 |
| \sh | doesn't matter i think :) | 02:18 |
| Tm_T | well, should I force it then? | 02:19 |
| _henning | . | 02:19 |
| \sh | upp | 02:19 |
| \sh | yes i mean ;) | 02:19 |
| \sh | all this english german stuff | 02:20 |
| Tm_T | ok | 02:20 |
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| willie-Turk | hi noob-kwestion-- what should I apt-get install to get Turkish language support? | 02:23 |
| Tm_T | hmm | 02:24 |
| willie-Turk | A mate set up kubuntu on my new laptop for me before I moved to Turkey and now I need the local chars | 02:24 |
| Tm_T | "apt-cache search turk" | 02:24 |
| willie-Turk | Id have done it myself but just didnt have the time | 02:24 |
| willie-Turk | thank you | 02:24 |
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| willie-Turk | apt-cache search sounds like a really useful tool | 02:24 |
| Tm_T | yes it is :) | 02:25 |
| Tm_T | \sh: ok, force-all helped, let's see if it works... | 02:25 |
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| Tm_T | \sh: hmm, works | 02:25 |
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| willie-Turk | thank you - truly excellent support -- its downloading now :-) | 02:27 |
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| Tm_T | \sh: thank you :) | 02:27 |
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| \sh | Tm_T: u r welcome :) | 02:28 |
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| Tm_T | \sh: wanna see a screenshot? | 02:29 |
| \sh | Tm_T: sure :) | 02:29 |
| \sh | Tm_T: wasn't it working with the old package of python-kde3? | 02:29 |
| Tm_T | nope | 02:30 |
| \sh | uhh. | 02:30 |
| Tm_T | http://www.kapsi.fi/~tm_travolta/kuvat/temp/amarok_005.png | 02:30 |
| Tm_T | so that album cover thingie now works | 02:31 |
| \sh | ah :) | 02:31 |
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| \sh | Tm_T: nice :) it helped :) | 02:32 |
| Tm_T | yup | 02:32 |
| Tm_T | hmm, looksa like other stuff works too | 02:32 |
| Tm_T | -a | 02:32 |
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| candyban | What is wrong with the kdelibs-data package? | 02:36 |
| KaiL_ | nothing any more, but there was something ages ago | 02:36 |
| KaiL_ | "apt-get -f install" should fix | 02:37 |
| uniq | make sure you've enable hoary-upadtes | 02:37 |
| candyban | I just installed and upgraded | 02:37 |
| uniq | bah.. hoary-updates | 02:37 |
| candyban | How do I "enable" hoary-updates? | 02:37 |
| candyban | I just did apt-get upgrade ... | 02:37 |
| candyban | I had to kill off my previous kubuntu box because my root filesystem (JFS) was getting currupted every 3-4 minutes and loosing data | 02:38 |
| uniq | try 'grep hoary-updates /etc/apt/sources.list' from konsole | 02:39 |
| candyban | When I installed kubuntu for the first time, I had a similar problem (kdelib-data) ... and it broke quite a lot at that time | 02:39 |
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| uniq | if the lines returned have a # infront of them hoary-updates is disabled. | 02:40 |
| uniq | if it doesn't return anything it's diabled too. | 02:40 |
| candyban | uniq: it's enabled | 02:41 |
| mr_roboto | cd /etc | 02:41 |
| uniq | ok then. 'sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade' | 02:41 |
| mr_roboto | ls | 02:41 |
| mr_roboto | oops! wrong window | 02:41 |
| uniq | :) | 02:41 |
| candyban | uniq: that's exactly what I did | 02:41 |
| uniq | and the problem is? kdelibs-data and knetworkconf ? | 02:42 |
| candyban | kdelibs-data ... hmmz ... when I did it a second time it didn't complain anymore ... | 02:42 |
| uniq | then it's not a problem. | 02:43 |
| uniq | bbl. movie. | 02:43 |
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| _henning | . | 02:56 |
| _henning | ../ | 02:57 |
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| Tm_T | \sh: hehe, now if I "apt-get upgrade" it tries to remove pykde because of dependencies :p | 03:00 |
| Tm_T | ok, hold on it | 03:00 |
| \sh | w8 | 03:00 |
| Tm_T | hmm | 03:01 |
| Tm_T | no, why if I set them to hold, it still try to remove them | 03:01 |
| \sh | recompile | 03:02 |
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| \sh | Tm_T: i fixed the deps | 03:02 |
| \sh | and recompile | 03:03 |
| Tm_T | ok | 03:03 |
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| jkeel | does anybody know how to obtain qt designer for Kubuntu? | 03:22 |
| \sh | sudo apt-get install qt3-apps-dev | 03:23 |
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| jkeel | \sh: I think I've already done that...lemme try again | 03:29 |
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| jkeel | \sh: ahh...I see my problem. I removed some repos from my sources.list because the US server was down. I forgot to re-add them, so the packages don't show up ;) | 03:30 |
| Tm_T | \sh: hmm, so there's another fixed version of debs now? | 03:38 |
| \sh | Tm_T: just now uploading | 03:38 |
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| Tm_T | ok | 03:39 |
| dreumah | hi i want to use amarok but it doesnt have a sound engine | 03:39 |
| Tm_T | dreumah: install gstreamer ;) | 03:39 |
| Tm_T | or xine | 03:39 |
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| dreumah | amarok-gstreamer? | 03:40 |
| Tm_T | yup | 03:40 |
| Tm_T | and gstreamer plugins | 03:41 |
| dreumah | all of them? | 03:41 |
| Tm_T | the ones you need | 03:41 |
| jkeel | Tm_T: do you know what amaroK uses by default on Kubuntu? | 03:42 |
| jkeel | Tm_T: playback works just fine for me...without an engine that I know of | 03:43 |
| Tm_T | jkeel: gstreamer or arts | 03:43 |
| Tm_T | propably gst | 03:43 |
| Tm_T | jkeel: check from settings ;) | 03:43 |
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| \sh | Tm_T: update | 03:44 |
| _henning | anyone know how to setup pure-ftpd? | 03:44 |
| dreumah | my playback doesnt work at all | 03:45 |
| jkeel | Tm_T: I did. that's what's funny. The Engine tab doesn't show that I'm using an engine | 03:45 |
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| anemiat1 | If I install Kubuntu will I be able to use the 855 resolution deb package as in ubuntu? | 03:46 |
| Tm_T | \sh: ok | 03:46 |
| jkeel | dreumah: that's weird. I'm on a default Kubuntu install..and it works just fine | 03:46 |
| Tm_T | \sh: python2.4-kde3: Depends: python2.4-qt3 (>= 3.14) but 3.13-4ubuntu2 is installed | 03:47 |
| \sh | i changed it | 03:47 |
| Tm_T | I'll force it | 03:47 |
| dreumah | hmm | 03:47 |
| \sh | what version? | 03:47 |
| Tm_T | well, I think the newest =) | 03:47 |
| \sh | ubuntu4? | 03:47 |
| \sh | u did apt-get update? | 03:48 |
| Tm_T | yup | 03:48 |
| Tm_T | \sh: well, I used dpkg -i package.deb and it worked | 03:49 |
| dreumah | jkeel: i don know why it is not working now i have two engines and both are silent when i tey to play | 03:49 |
| Tm_T | \sh: so no conflicts anymore | 03:50 |
| \sh | python2.4-qt3 (>=3.13) | 03:50 |
| \sh | try to do this | 03:50 |
| \sh | apt-get remove python2.4-kde3 | 03:50 |
| \sh | first and then update and reinstall | 03:50 |
| Tm_T | ok | 03:51 |
| anemiat1 | If I install Kubuntu will I be able to use the 855 resolution deb package as in ubuntu??? | 03:51 |
| Tm_T | \sh: now it worked | 03:52 |
| Tm_T | \sh: that python-kde3 package have one issue too | 03:52 |
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| dreumah | ok i selected the gstreamer engine and used the alsasink and now its working | 03:53 |
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| jkeel | dreumah: are you sure your audio setup works otherwise? | 03:53 |
| jkeel | dreumah: sweet | 03:54 |
| dreumah | i still wonder why it didnt work with oss | 03:54 |
| \sh | Tm_T: which one? | 03:54 |
| jkeel | dreumah: does Kubuntu even use OSS..? | 03:55 |
| jkeel | I don't know | 03:55 |
| Tm_T | \sh: python-kde3: Depends: python (< 2.4) but 2.4.1-0ubuntu2 is installed | 03:56 |
| dreumah | dunno, but gstreamer had the osssink selected | 03:56 |
| dreumah | and it didnt work | 03:56 |
| jkeel | hmm | 03:56 |
| Tm_T | I use gst w/ osssink | 03:57 |
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| dreumah | thats odd | 03:58 |
| \sh | Tm_T: oh sh*t yes..this is also wrong for breezy :( | 03:58 |
| \sh | Tm_T: thx | 03:58 |
| Tm_T | =) | 03:58 |
| Tm_T | I'm glad if I can help | 03:59 |
| _henning | how can i get me desktop to look like MAC, or some other fancy looks? | 03:59 |
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| DaBlade | Hello. | 04:00 |
| dreumah | kde-look.org | 04:00 |
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| ralf | hi | 04:00 |
| dreumah | henning | 04:00 |
| dreumah | you can download themes from there | 04:00 |
| _henning | where? | 04:00 |
| DaBlade | How do I mount my MP3 player? sudo mount /dev/sda1 (or sda, sda2, sdb, sdb1 etc...) | 04:00 |
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| DaBlade | those don't work | 04:01 |
| dreumah | thats external harddisk i though | 04:01 |
| dreumah | t | 04:01 |
| dreumah | sda | 04:01 |
| jkeel | _henning: kde-look.org | 04:01 |
| _henning | dreamah: then 3.2 + ? | 04:01 |
| DaBlade | they used to work | 04:01 |
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| snowseal | lo | 04:01 |
| dreumah | yeah | 04:01 |
| snowseal | how would i log a users shell commands ? | 04:01 |
| dreumah | there are some mac like themes | 04:02 |
| \sh | Tm_T: i won't fix it for hoary directly, first let me check breezy | 04:02 |
| jkeel | snowseal: they're generally already logged in the .bash_history | 04:02 |
| dreumah | henning: or go straight to the theme manager thing | 04:02 |
| DaBlade | hello? anyone? | 04:03 |
| Tm_T | \sh: ok, it's just metapackage afaik | 04:03 |
| dreumah | i think you can use juk to mount mp3 players | 04:03 |
| dreumah | but i ham not sure | 04:03 |
| snowseal | jkeel, can i protect that file from deleting or tampering> | 04:03 |
| DaBlade | I don't have JuK. (I prefer amaroK and Xine) | 04:03 |
| dreumah | i think amarok can do it too | 04:03 |
| DaBlade | only for ipods I think | 04:04 |
| dreumah | try the media device | 04:04 |
| DaBlade | ? | 04:04 |
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| dreumah | in the amarok side menu | 04:04 |
| _henning | ok, i wanna try this: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=1499 | 04:04 |
| candyban | Hi guys | 04:04 |
| DaBlade | hi candyban | 04:05 |
| Tm_T | DaBlade: install amaroK from svn ;) | 04:05 |
| _henning | then i get to download something like *.rpm | 04:05 |
| candyban | Anyone familiar with setting up LDAP authentication in kubuntu? ... I managed to set it up yesteday, but my root partition (JFS) kind of crashed ... | 04:05 |
| F_for_Fragging | _henning: http://baghira.sourceforge.net/ | 04:05 |
| candyban | so I reinstalled, but now I can't get it working anymore ... | 04:05 |
| Tm_T | yuuuk baghira | 04:05 |
| candyban | Authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info. | 04:05 |
| jkeel | snowseal: I'm not sure...it's by default owned by the user in whose home folder it resides | 04:05 |
| DaBlade | Tm_T: It won't even build the stable version. There's something about the new version that makes it un-compilable for me | 04:05 |
| DaBlade | the previous version works fine | 04:05 |
| F_for_Fragging | _henning: that's a mac look, just do apt-get install kwin-baghira | 04:05 |
| Tm_T | strange | 04:06 |
| snowseal | jkeel, and the home dir itself is owned by the user, so he can delete files in it. | 04:06 |
| _henning | fraggin: ok! | 04:07 |
| jkeel | snowseal: it looks like you could just 'sudo chmod root .bash_history' to keep the user from deleting it | 04:07 |
| DaBlade | anyway, any other ways of mounting it? | 04:07 |
| _henning | fraggin: I've done that, what now? | 04:09 |
| candyban | ok ... nevermind ... it works now | 04:09 |
| DaBlade | http://supermount-ng.sourceforge.net/ <--that doesn't look like a good idea, because the kernel I use doesn't seem to support it. | 04:09 |
| F_for_Fragging | _henning: go to the KDE Control Center, Appearence -> Window Decoration | 04:09 |
| _henning | ok | 04:09 |
| candyban | I had use_firstpass or something in common-auth | 04:09 |
| F_for_Fragging | _henning: this is my desktop with baghira - http://www.xs4all.nl/~vanlonen/kbdesktop.jpg - note that I also use some superkaramba thmes and that I changed KDE's colors :) | 04:10 |
| DaBlade | <showoffmode> here's my desktop. not baghira, but I hope you guys like it. opinions? www.freewebtown.com/dablade/snapshot19.png </showoffmode> | 04:12 |
| _henning | fragging: that awesome :D Just that, i a beginner at linux... But that what i've got in mind :D | 04:13 |
| _henning | fragging: that awesome :D Just that, i a beginner at linux... But that what i've got in mind :D | 04:13 |
| _henning | fragging: that awesome :D Just that, i a beginner at linux... But that what i've got in mind :D | 04:13 |
| DaBlade | henning, are you norwegian? (henning is a norwegian name) | 04:14 |
| F_for_Fragging | nothing is wrong with my short term memory, if you say things only once it will be enough ;) | 04:14 |
| _henning | DaBlade: How do you make the "bar" in the left? | 04:15 |
| DaBlade | bar? | 04:15 |
| neko | I'm guessing he means the sttatistics monitor type thing | 04:16 |
| DaBlade | oh | 04:16 |
| F_for_Fragging | I just installed baghia, messed with baghira's settings and changed the colors, installed the Liquid Weather Plus and Aero AOI superkaramba themes | 04:16 |
| DaBlade | It's a superkaramba theme | 04:16 |
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| _henning | apt-get install superkaramba ? | 04:16 |
| DaBlade | On KDE-Look, search for XtremeKstatus | 04:16 |
| DaBlade | It was originally written by karraskal, but I modified the theme pretty heavily | 04:17 |
| DaBlade | yeah you need superkaramba to run the theme | 04:17 |
| F_for_Fragging | _henning: if you install superkaramba with APT you'll install version 0.35 | 04:17 |
| _henning | okay? | 04:18 |
| DaBlade | better compile it then | 04:18 |
| F_for_Fragging | _henning: and 0.35 will not work very well with certain themes | 04:18 |
| neko | how about the satalite image? | 04:18 |
| F_for_Fragging | _henning: so I compiled the source of 0.36 myself | 04:18 |
| DaBlade | neko: meteosat. someone posted it on kde-look two days ago or so | 04:18 |
| _henning | is there a BIG difference? | 04:18 |
| jkeel | does anyone know why amaroK's built-in streaming radio stations never work | 04:18 |
| DaBlade | they work for me | 04:19 |
| jkeel | ? | 04:19 |
| DaBlade | I often listen to Hardcore Regime Radio | 04:19 |
| DaBlade | And Digitally Imported's Progressive Techno stream | 04:19 |
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| F_for_Fragging | with superkaramba 0.35 liquid weather ++ theme I use didn't work, so I was forced to compile 0.36 | 04:19 |
| neko | MDK is starting to annoy me | 04:19 |
| neko | <.<;; | 04:19 |
| _henning | okay | 04:20 |
| F_for_Fragging | I also like to listen to digitally imported's streams, I like techno | 04:20 |
| jkeel | DaBlade: they never seem to work for me | 04:20 |
| DaBlade | me too, but I prefer Hardcore REgime | 04:20 |
| DaBlade | jkeel: Get a new DNS server or better ISP ;) | 04:21 |
| jkeel | DaBlade: they never worked on my Gentoo install, and they still don't work on my Kubuntu install..it says the host cannot be found | 04:21 |
| _henning | fragging: How can i get this to work; http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=1499 | 04:22 |
| DaBlade | then get a new DNS server | 04:22 |
| DaBlade | that sounds like a DNS error | 04:22 |
| jkeel | heh. amaroK just locked up trying to play teh Bluemars stream | 04:22 |
| jkeel | DaBlade: I am on dial-up, so that could possibly be it | 04:23 |
| DaBlade | _henning: www.xpde.org | 04:23 |
| jkeel | but other streaming stations work fine | 04:23 |
| DaBlade | possibly | 04:23 |
| jkeel | even on dial-up | 04:23 |
| F_for_Fragging | _henning: I thought you wanted a Mac look? anyway, I'm not sure, but if you downloaded that theme as a tar.gz file maybe you'll have to compile it yourself | 04:23 |
| DaBlade | get a new DNS then, and see if it works. | 04:23 |
| _henning | fraggind: Mac or fancy :P, but the site you gave says "Hier entsteht die Domain xpde.org " | 04:24 |
| DaBlade | oh..hold | 04:24 |
| DaBlade | my mistake | 04:24 |
| DaBlade | it was xpde.com | 04:24 |
| _henning | ;) | 04:24 |
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| _henning | fragging: then i get this link: http://www.xpde.com/releases/xpde-0.5.0.tar.gz | 04:29 |
| dreumah | any one have the chess game kknights working? | 04:33 |
| dreumah | if so how? | 04:33 |
| jkeel | dreumah: I know you have to install an engine like crafty | 04:33 |
| dreumah | from where? | 04:36 |
| dreumah | isnt there a package out there, i know there is for knoppic | 04:36 |
| dreumah | knoppix | 04:36 |
| F_for_Fragging | _henning: sorry but i can't help you because i don't use that theme, I don't know how to install it | 04:37 |
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| jkeel | dreumah: hmm...not sure | 04:37 |
| _henning | okay | 04:38 |
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| jkeel | dreumah: gnuchess is available as a package. I'm not sure if that engine works with knights or not | 04:38 |
| dreumah | it does | 04:38 |
| candyban | NOOOOOOOOO .... I lost 50 GB of pr0n ... CRAPPY JFS ... never will I use JFS again | 04:38 |
| candyban | Anyone know who ported/invented JFS? I would really love to punch him in the nose | 04:39 |
| buz | dude, jfs generally doesnt lose data | 04:39 |
| buz | it's used on some of the most badass servers out there | 04:40 |
| buz | tho personally i use xfs as it's better balanced for speed | 04:40 |
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| Alex[RM-UK] | Hi, | 04:40 |
| dreumah | jkeel: should i try installing gnuchess and then compiling the game from the site? | 04:40 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | How do I check what version Kernel I have, I think it's 2.6 but not sure | 04:40 |
| jkeel | dreumah: I suppose so, since knights isn't available as a package | 04:41 |
| candyban | buz: my ROOT partition was corrupted every 3-4 minutes ... I had to fsck it cos it would go into read-only mode every time ... when reinstalling kubuntu there was the JFS root partition and 56 GB "unpartitioned space" ... | 04:42 |
| buz | are you sure it's not the drive that's slowly dying | 04:42 |
| buz | sure sounds like it | 04:42 |
| dreumah | jkeel: i shall do that then | 04:42 |
| candyban | buz: smartmontools say everything is A-OK | 04:43 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | How to I check my Kernel version? | 04:43 |
| candyban | Alex[RM-UK] : uname -r | 04:43 |
| buz | smart doesn't know shit if you ask me | 04:43 |
| buz | of course, it could be jfs but i don't think it's bloody likely | 04:43 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | candyban, Thanks | 04:43 |
| dreumah | jkeel: i ll tell you the results | 04:43 |
| buz | my primary use for smart is figuring out hd temps | 04:43 |
| buz | and that doesnt work behind raid controllers, either :( | 04:44 |
| candyban | buz: it's the first time I use JFS ... and the third time I ever lost a partition ... other times were on other machines (both using ext3) | 04:44 |
| jkeel | dreumah: thanks. I might want to install knights | 04:45 |
| buz | wtf | 04:46 |
| buz | i never ever lost a partition | 04:46 |
| buz | not without failing hardware, anyway | 04:46 |
| buz | i'd use xfs | 04:46 |
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| candyban | buz: I have a mixture of xfs, reiserfs and ext3 at the moment | 04:47 |
| candyban | buz: and I honestly think I don't have failing hardware | 04:47 |
| buz | reiser is the devil | 04:48 |
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| buz | THAT beast would corrupt my files left and right | 04:48 |
| buz | mhh pdfs look fucked up lately but print properly | 04:48 |
| buz | WTF | 04:48 |
| buz | seems to happen since the kde 3.4.1 update | 04:49 |
| candyban | Is kde using gcc 4 already? | 04:49 |
| \sh | candyban: in breezy yes | 04:50 |
| candyban | Oh ... also an LVM2 (striping 2 disks) disappeared once (lost 320 GB that day) | 04:51 |
| candyban | With that track record one would think one has good backup ... but guess again :( | 04:51 |
| buz | striping is about the most stupid thing to do | 04:53 |
| candyban | buz: Not when you don't want to loose too much diskspace and gain some performance increase | 04:54 |
| buz | pff | 04:54 |
| buz | rather have two drives then | 04:54 |
| candyban | buz: I have 7 | 04:54 |
| buz | separate instead of striped i mean | 04:54 |
| buz | i got like 8 drives or so here | 04:54 |
| gdh | I have over a dozen, but they're mostly 1GB in a box in the attic :) | 04:55 |
| gdh | that's a sealed cardboard box, kids.,, not some insane RAID-in-the-roof-router event :) | 04:56 |
| candyban | /dev/md0: Timing buffered disk reads: 200 MB in 3.01 seconds = 66.46 MB/sec | 04:56 |
| candyban | /dev/hda: Timing buffered disk reads: 136 MB in 3.03 seconds = 44.88 MB/sec | 04:56 |
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| buz | i mean halfway current drives | 04:56 |
| dreumah | hey i tried to install knights and i got so far as it needing x, and i got this error any help? checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your ins tallation and add the correct paths! | 04:56 |
| buz | i must have as many failed deathstars in a package somewhere | 04:57 |
| gdh | hehe :)) The IBM 'nine to five drive' :) | 04:57 |
| candyban | buz: ah ... now I understand the deathstar ;) ... | 04:58 |
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| buz | nine to five? more like "your data's gravedigger" | 04:59 |
| gdh | yeh I know - but didn't IBM officially say at one point that they only guaranteed the drive to run for approx 8 hours a day and that it wasn't suitable for 24 hr ? | 04:59 |
| candyban | gdh: yeah ... it's in the warranty | 05:00 |
| gdh | insanity.... | 05:00 |
| buz | i thought they even got a classaction suit for those crap drives | 05:01 |
| buz | apropos, does anybody know if the ipod classaction applies to europe, too? | 05:01 |
| buz | probably not | 05:01 |
| Tm_T | dreumah: hmm, you must install X devs? | 05:01 |
| candyban | buz: isn't that because they admitted they couldn't cope with demand so they shipped rejected drives (the ones which didn't pass their tests) | 05:02 |
| buz | dunno | 05:02 |
| buz | i generally dont bother with rma | 05:02 |
| buz | much time, little gain | 05:02 |
| buz | i just make mental notes not to buy from some company again | 05:02 |
| dreumah | thanks i am doing so at the moment | 05:05 |
| dreumah | checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation! | 05:06 |
| dreumah | For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log. | 05:06 |
| dreumah | this is what is give me after i install x devs | 05:06 |
| uniq | dreumah: install kdelibs4-dev | 05:06 |
| dreumah | and then it should work | 05:07 |
| dreumah | has nobody tried this before? knights is a great chess app | 05:07 |
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| Alex[RM-UK] | Hi | 05:11 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | I managed to install my ATI drivers :> | 05:11 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | But does anyone know how to edit my Open GL settings? | 05:11 |
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| uniq | dreumah: make clean; ./configure --prefix=/usr | 05:18 |
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| uniq | dreumah: make clean in the source directory. | 05:20 |
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| segfault2k | wazap | 05:22 |
| gdh | NULL | 05:22 |
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| Alex[RM-UK] | Hi | 05:42 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | Does anyone know of a good windows emulator that will let me run Photoshop and GTA Vice city | 05:42 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | cedega I tried but it doesn't seem to run photoshop :( | 05:42 |
| segfault2k | use cedega for games | 05:42 |
| segfault2k | and cxoffice for apps | 05:43 |
| segfault2k | cxoffice runs photoshop 7 | 05:43 |
| segfault2k | perfectly | 05:43 |
| segfault2k | cs and cs2 not yet afaik | 05:43 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | is cxoffice Cross Over Office ? | 05:43 |
| segfault2k | yup | 05:43 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | Ok, I shall try that now | 05:44 |
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| Alex[RM-UK] | and is Cross Over Code Weaver? or something of the sort | 05:50 |
| Firetech | it's CodeWeavers CrossOver Office, so yes. | 05:51 |
| segfault2k | search in a torrent tracker :P | 05:51 |
| Firetech | www.codeweavers.com | 05:51 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | I tried isohunt, but my new ATI drivers don't seem to like Firefox, everytime I scroll down on there site, the whole torrent section moves down with me....so I cant catch it :P | 05:52 |
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| Firetech | Alex[RM-UK] : Heard of tuxwarez? | 05:52 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | Nope, | 05:53 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | googling now | 05:53 |
| segfault2k | tuxwarez? | 05:53 |
| segfault2k | wtfit? | 05:53 |
| Firetech | yup | 05:53 |
| Firetech | torrent tracker with only (or most) linux stuff | 05:53 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | I take it ... torrents but in Linux format, no exe | 05:53 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | :) | 05:53 |
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| Firetech | more like torrents which are interresting for linux users, I think they have some linux->windows stuff | 05:56 |
| Firetech | e.g. vmware | 05:57 |
| Firetech | What is freenode's warez talk policy btw? | 05:57 |
| ilba7r | any one know how to set wirless net on ubuntu | 05:58 |
| gdh | everything's logged, and we'll hunt you down when you're asleep =) | 05:58 |
| Tm_T | try www.freenode.net | 05:58 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | OH crap, installing Vice city with cedega....it asks for data3.cab ... so I couldnt eject CD so I put it in my second CD drive which HAS data3.cab on it......it then goes NONONO I dont want data3.cab....I changed my mine, I want data4.cab - Which doesnt exsit in vice city | 05:59 |
| uniq | firetech: don't distribute warez-things in here please. | 05:59 |
| Firetech | ok | 05:59 |
| Firetech | I didn't know what the policy was.. Won't do it again. | 05:59 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | why dont my Eject buttons work on my CD drive? I keep having to right click on the icon and clicking eject | 06:00 |
| Firetech | Now I know, freenode's against it. | 06:00 |
| gdh | Alex[RM-UK] : It's because you ain't in Redmond any more :) | 06:00 |
| Firetech | http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#offtopic | 06:01 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | Redmond?? | 06:01 |
| segfault2k | ahha | 06:01 |
| segfault2k | this is not Kansas | 06:01 |
| segfault2k | xD | 06:01 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | Kansas? | 06:01 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | ^^ | 06:02 |
| segfault2k | Alex[RM-UK] : you have to unmount it first | 06:02 |
| segfault2k | :P | 06:02 |
| Firetech | Alex[RM-UK] : Redmond is where Microsoft is (oops, bad word...) | 06:02 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | Oh I see, | 06:02 |
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| Firetech | everything Windows(r) related in KDE is caleld Redmond | 06:02 |
| Firetech | *called | 06:02 |
| Firetech | Splash screens and styles etc. | 06:03 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | I wondered why the XP style login screen was caleld Redmound | 06:03 |
| Firetech | :P | 06:03 |
| Tm_T | mound =) | 06:03 |
| Firetech | that's why | 06:03 |
| apollo2011 | Where do I put files once I have Apache installed? I put the mediawiki files in the /srv files but it doesn't show up. | 06:03 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | I know, felt like adding in an extra letter | 06:03 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | ^^ | 06:03 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | lets try this Vice city install again then | 06:03 |
| Firetech | Alex[RM-UK] : That's forbidden. | 06:03 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | :( | 06:04 |
| Firetech | You will now be assimilated. | 06:04 |
| Firetech | ;) | 06:04 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | noooor | 06:04 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | Me brew........get a spooooooooooooooon | 06:04 |
| Firetech | oh, you did it again. | 06:04 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | :( | 06:04 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | :) | 06:04 |
| Firetech | :P | 06:04 |
| Tm_T | kids... | 06:04 |
| Firetech | Wonder what freenode's policy against adding extra letters | 06:04 |
| Firetech | I would consider that an off-topic activity. | 06:05 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | haha, Vialation of the Anal I suspect :S | 06:05 |
| Firetech | well well, jokes over. | 06:05 |
| gdh | I expect John6000 will be along in a minute.... | 06:05 |
| Firetech | gdh: who is that? | 06:07 |
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| gdh | Just another 'regular' here :) | 06:08 |
| Firetech | ok | 06:08 |
| Firetech | I've only been here for about two weeks... | 06:08 |
| Firetech | two weeks yesterday according to my logs. | 06:09 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | Grr, it keeps asking for data4.cab which doesnt exsist! | 06:11 |
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| jajaj | hello? | 06:23 |
| Firetech | hello. | 06:23 |
| jajaj | what is this? | 06:24 |
| Firetech | a channel for www.kubuntu.org | 06:24 |
| jajaj | what do u do here then? | 06:24 |
| Firetech | chat about the wonderful linux and help eachother? | 06:25 |
| jajaj | wow | 06:25 |
| jajaj | well i'm new to this linux stuf | 06:25 |
| jajaj | so i guess it's ok to ask questions here then? | 06:25 |
| Firetech | absolutely. | 06:26 |
| jajaj | but why am i thew only one typing? | 06:26 |
| Firetech | Because the other ones don't have the courage... | 06:26 |
| Firetech | They are afraid of newcomers ;) | 06:26 |
| jajaj | h | 06:27 |
| jajaj | ok that's bad :P | 06:27 |
| Firetech | Honestly, I don't know | 06:27 |
| jajaj | ok | 06:27 |
| jajaj | is there some equal to msn in kubuntu? | 06:27 |
| Firetech | yup | 06:28 |
| Firetech | kopete | 06:28 |
| Firetech | K > Internet > Kopete | 06:28 |
| Firetech | It can handle ICQ and some other protocols too. | 06:28 |
| apollo2011 | What file does Apache2 load for PHP support? I want to setup mediawiki on my pc but it require php support, and when I load the index.php, it tries to download it | 06:28 |
| Firetech | apollo2011: have you got php installed? | 06:29 |
| jajaj | thx for the help :D | 06:29 |
| apollo2011 | yeah | 06:29 |
| Firetech | "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 reload" then | 06:29 |
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| Firetech | jajaj: np, fellow Swede ;) | 06:30 |
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| _Church_of_FoamY | does anyone know of a good weather app for kubuntu | 06:30 |
| apollo2011 | Firetech: I reloaded it should it work now when I open the php file in Firefox? | 06:30 |
| Firetech | there is liquid weather for (super)karamba | 06:31 |
| uniq | and there is kweather too. | 06:31 |
| jajaj | are u from sweden? :) | 06:31 |
| Firetech | apollo2011: you can check if it gets loaded in the config files in /etc/apache2 | 06:31 |
| Firetech | jajaj: Skne, to be exact. | 06:31 |
| _Church_of_FoamY | how do you get kweather to work? | 06:31 |
| jajaj | is it ok to talk swedish? :) | 06:31 |
| Firetech | apt-get install kweather? | 06:32 |
| _Church_of_FoamY | i have it but can't seem to find it in my kbar | 06:32 |
| _Church_of_FoamY | i have | 06:32 |
| Firetech | jajaj: Why do you think I'm talking English? | 06:32 |
| jajaj | Firetech: ok, sry :P | 06:32 |
| uniq | _church_of_foamy: rightclick on the panel and add weather report? | 06:33 |
| Firetech | What uniq said... | 06:33 |
| _Church_of_FoamY | oh ok got it lol | 06:33 |
| apollo2011 | Firetech: | 06:33 |
| apollo2011 | #AddType application/x-httpd-php .php | 06:33 |
| apollo2011 | #AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps | 06:33 |
| _Church_of_FoamY | whats liquid weather how to get? | 06:33 |
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| Firetech | _Church_of_FoamY: it sits on your desktop | 06:33 |
| Firetech | available at kde-look.org | 06:33 |
| _Church_of_FoamY | oh is it called wmweather+? | 06:34 |
| wizzard | does anybody know, where can I get the latest packages of Krusader and Firefox? | 06:34 |
| Firetech | apollo2011: remove those #, it's commented out... | 06:34 |
| uniq | wizzard: universe and/or backports. | 06:34 |
| wizzard | what do you mean? | 06:34 |
| uniq | take a look at http://ubuntuguide.org#extrarepositories | 06:34 |
| apollo2011 | FIretech; oh lol I didn't even realize that lol | 06:35 |
| uniq | there you have universe and backports. | 06:35 |
| wizzard | I will try | 06:35 |
| Firetech | apollo2011: you need to do some kind of LoadModule too | 06:35 |
| Firetech | I'm running a custom compiled PHP 5 so I don't know the exact syntax | 06:36 |
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| apollo2011 | Firetech: yeah that doesn't change it...even after reloading apache2 | 06:36 |
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| apollo2011 | ill try on the #php channel | 06:36 |
| Firetech | wise idea ;) | 06:36 |
| _Church_of_FoamY | is superkaramba free? | 06:37 |
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| uniq | sure. | 06:37 |
| _Church_of_FoamY | ^_^ | 06:37 |
| Firetech | apollo2011: it might be "LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp4.so" in httpd.conf | 06:37 |
| Firetech | _Church_of_FoamY: apt-get it. | 06:38 |
| apollo2011 | FIretech: ill try that... | 06:38 |
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| shiv | how do I open konsole in su mode? | 06:38 |
| _Church_of_FoamY | how to install a .deb file? | 06:39 |
| jajaj | why does Kopete say that my msn pass is incorrect when i'm sertain it's right? | 06:39 |
| gdh | jajaj: Because you need to upgrade Kopete to include the latest fixes for MSN... | 06:40 |
| jajaj | ok, thx | 06:40 |
| gdh | jajaj: really the first question to ask yourself before reporting an issue is always 'am I using the latest release?' :) | 06:41 |
| _Church_of_FoamY | LINUX ROCKS ^_^ | 06:41 |
| shiv | how do I open konsole in su mode? | 06:42 |
| gdh | shiv: sudo -i | 06:42 |
| _george | i'm trying to install new nvidia drivers and the thing says i need the kernel source tables, how do i get those, anybody know? | 06:42 |
| Firetech | jajaj: press alt+f2 > type in "sudo kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list" (without the ") > remove the "#" characters in front of the lines which contain "hoary-updates" and "hoary-security" then save. | 06:43 |
| gdh | _george: You probably just need the kernel headers package. | 06:43 |
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| Firetech | I'm not sure if hoary-security is disabled, but anyway. | 06:43 |
| gdh | _george: what kernel do you have installed? 'uname -a' will tell you | 06:44 |
| _george | Linux kubuntu 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Fri May 20 13:52:48 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux | 06:44 |
| gdh | probably 2.6.10-5-386 ? | 06:44 |
| gdh | heh | 06:44 |
| _george | yeah | 06:44 |
| gdh | apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386 | 06:44 |
| gdh | that should be enough :) | 06:44 |
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| Firetech | jajaj: then open kynaptic in the menu and do an upgrade | 06:45 |
| _Church_of_FoamY | weard all of my browsers say http://www.superkaramba.com/ isen't real :/ | 06:45 |
| apollo2011 | Firetech: the one you gave me AND the one on the php.net site doen | 06:46 |
| apollo2011 | work | 06:46 |
| _george | ok, i'm gonna try this stuff, thanks all | 06:46 |
| apollo2011 | don't work | 06:46 |
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| Firetech | apollo2011: do a "sudo updatedb" (wait some minutes), then a "locate php42 | 06:47 |
| Firetech | *"locate php4" | 06:47 |
| apollo2011 | ok | 06:48 |
| wizzard | if I have uncommented all the original lines from apt-get configuration file, do I need some another sources to get KDE 3.4.1? | 06:48 |
| Firetech | wizzard: you SHOULD NOT uncomment the rest | 06:48 |
| wizzard | why? | 06:48 |
| Firetech | jus add the "deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary-updates main" line in the bottom | 06:48 |
| wizzard | I want more soft that just original distro has | 06:49 |
| Firetech | duh | 06:49 |
| uniq | uncommenting is no problem. | 06:49 |
| Firetech | *bangs his head* | 06:49 |
| wizzard | yep, but I want also progs like mc or Krusader | 06:49 |
| uniq | firetech just misunderstood you :) | 06:49 |
| Firetech | thought wrong | 06:49 |
| Firetech | I thought tou wanted to comment the out ;) | 06:49 |
| uniq | wizzard: follow the ubuntuguide.org and add the source firetech pasted here. | 06:50 |
| Firetech | uncomment the lines and add "deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary-updates main" | 06:50 |
| wizzard | I uncommented all the lines and it works fine... | 06:50 |
| uniq | then you'll get new krusader and kde 3.4.1 and all. | 06:50 |
| wizzard | it is necessary to add also s line "deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary-updates main"? | 06:50 |
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| Firetech | wizzard: I misunderstood you/thouight completely wrong... | 06:50 |
| Firetech | yes | 06:50 |
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| Firetech | else you won't get kde 3.4.1, just an updated 3.4.0 | 06:51 |
| wizzard | I see that they has only Krusader 1.5.1 | 06:51 |
| wizzard | the newest is 1.6.0... | 06:51 |
| Firetech | is krusader an official KDE app? | 06:52 |
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| wizzard | nope? :) does not matter, it is a good app | 06:52 |
| Firetech | then it isn't in the 3.4.1 repository | 06:52 |
| Firetech | It's pretty neat, yes | 06:52 |
| Firetech | I grew up with norton commander ;) | 06:53 |
| wizzard | is is great, unlike that mc | 06:53 |
| Firetech | gotta go eat. | 06:53 |
| wizzard | see ya :p | 06:54 |
| uniq | krusader is in universe. | 06:54 |
| wizzard | yep | 06:54 |
| wizzard | what does it mean when I get this message? cannot connect to X server :0.0 | 06:55 |
| wizzard | I try to run some app from Konsole | 06:55 |
| gdh | wizzard: means you probably wanted to run the app as root via 'sudo appname' | 06:55 |
| wizzard | yep, that was the reason | 06:56 |
| uniq | wizzard: run 'xhost local:' as the user running X. | 06:56 |
| uniq | and try again. | 06:56 |
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| wizzard | its strange, it worked in Slack, when I was as a root, whatever | 06:57 |
| wizzard | has anybody tried to get KDE and GNOME working in Kubuntu? | 06:58 |
| uniq | wizzard: did you do as i said? and try again? | 06:58 |
| wizzard | I just logged out, and it worked | 06:58 |
| uniq | wizzard: sure.. apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and you have gnome. | 06:58 |
| wizzard | fine... and what about fonts? everything works fine? | 06:59 |
| uniq | it should. | 07:00 |
| wizzard | brb | 07:00 |
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| wizzard | hm, it seems that Kubuntu is not so bad | 07:05 |
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| wizzard | what about xfce? is there some simple trick to get it all? | 07:09 |
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| dreumah | uniq: how do i uninstall that package | 07:13 |
| dreumah | seeing that is doesnt work | 07:13 |
| apollo2011 | Firetech: It must be something else. I got PHP Loaded, but it still can't display the file correctly, so I put an index.html and it won't display that either. | 07:14 |
| uniq | dreumah: apt-get --purge remove knights | 07:19 |
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| wizzard | pls, does anybody have a location to download Firefox 1.0.4 using apt-get? I did not find it | 07:20 |
| dreumah | uniq: my windows are not working properly now | 07:25 |
| uniq | explain what's wrong. | 07:26 |
| dreumah | well they mimik the error of what happened when i run knights for the first time | 07:27 |
| uniq | tried to logout and login again? | 07:30 |
| osh_ | wizzard: apparently you should update firefox from within firefox. The little button next to the "load indicator" at the top right of the screen. | 07:30 |
| uniq | ls | 07:30 |
| uniq | ops. | 07:30 |
| wizzard | it works in Windoze, but not in Linux, I should have original deb package | 07:30 |
| dreumah | also my firefox closes when i go to flash sites | 07:33 |
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| uniq | dreumah: flash isn't well supported on amd64. you could try 'sudo apt-get install libflash-mozplugin' | 07:35 |
| uniq | wizzard: you can get a newer firefox from the backports project. follow the guide at http://ubuntuguide.org#extrarepositories and do an upgrade. | 07:35 |
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| wizzard | I will try | 07:36 |
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| wizzard | it seems it works :p | 07:38 |
| buz | anybody remember the command to autogenerate grub config files? | 07:38 |
| gdh | dpkg-reconfigure grub ? | 07:39 |
| uniq | update-grub | 07:39 |
| uniq | i guess. | 07:39 |
| uniq | something like that. | 07:39 |
| buz | ah yeah that was it | 07:40 |
| buz | thx | 07:40 |
| buz | i hate lilo | 07:40 |
| buz | it needs to go | 07:40 |
| uniq | yaboot is nice. :) | 07:40 |
| buz | im fine with grub | 07:40 |
| buz | i want to mess with the kernel and grub is definitely better suited for that | 07:41 |
| uniq | it sure is. | 07:41 |
| buz | specifically, i'm trying to mess with the cool and quiet voltages if anyone ever did that... | 07:42 |
| gdh | ... and lived to tell the tale. :) | 07:42 |
| buz | mhh it cant be that hard | 07:44 |
| buz | there are at least two working windows solutions for it | 07:44 |
| mellow | buz, i hate grub, because it writes all necessary information onto /boot. So if you got a filesystem damage on that device, you got a problem | 07:44 |
| buz | i haven't seen xfs go bad so far | 07:45 |
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| buz | and i did a lot of evil stuff to it | 07:45 |
| wizzard | omg, I installed that backport Firefox 1.0.4, I want to download some themes and it offers me the "latest" version of Firefox to download first | 07:46 |
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| morodo | olaaaaaaaaaaaa a todosssssss | 07:47 |
| morodo | alguien me alluda | 07:47 |
| buz | wizzard: known problem | 07:47 |
| buz | read the bugtraq posting it offers to you | 07:47 |
| wizzard | :( | 07:48 |
| wizzard | what? | 07:48 |
| morodo | howto install xmule in kubuntu | 07:48 |
| gdh | morodo: the same way you install any software package in kubuntu | 07:49 |
| gdh | you will need to enable the 'universe' repository first... | 07:49 |
| morodo | what is de comand to install programs??? | 07:49 |
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| gdh | all this is covered on http://www.ubuntuguide.org | 07:49 |
| morodo | eske nose nada ed linux soy nuevo | 07:50 |
| gdh | http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories etc. | 07:50 |
| gdh | morodo: Read ubuntuguide if you're new to Linux :) | 07:50 |
| Tm_T | rtfm! ] ;= | 07:50 |
| Tm_T | ;---P | 07:50 |
| gdh | Tm_T: I at least try to be civil :) | 07:50 |
| Tm_T | haha | 07:51 |
| Tm_T | just joking | 07:51 |
| gdh | =) | 07:51 |
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| buz | sheesh my desktop just crashed | 07:52 |
| buz | now what do i do to get it back? | 07:52 |
| gdh | buz: That's, er, a bit vague.... | 07:53 |
| buz | well it doesnt show anything anymore | 07:53 |
| buz | konqueror doesnt seem to work anymore either | 07:53 |
| gdh | so, the machien still starts and lets you log into a KDE session? | 07:54 |
| buz | nana | 07:54 |
| buz | i'm still in the session | 07:54 |
| buz | the machine doesnt seem to be able to do anything disk related | 07:54 |
| buz | weeeeeeird | 07:54 |
| buz | time to power cycle | 07:54 |
| gdh | ctrl-alt-f1 ? run 'dmesg' ? | 07:54 |
| gdh | might be a clue of some hardware problem there | 07:54 |
| buz | mhh i have a root console open | 07:54 |
| buz | nah i think grub-install crashed and somehow took part of the disk subsystem with it | 07:55 |
| buz | anything that's already up works fine | 07:55 |
| gdh | If XFS has just broken on you, you can eat my hat :) | 07:55 |
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| dreumah | hey i am in blackbox | 07:57 |
| dreumah | i didnt know i could still chat with people then | 07:57 |
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| buz | powercycle did the job | 07:57 |
| buz | not even reboot worked anymore | 07:57 |
| gdh | that stinks of hardware failure if the IDE bus has managed to hang itself so badly | 07:58 |
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| christos | hello | 08:00 |
| dreumah | hi | 08:01 |
| gdh | christos hi :) | 08:01 |
| christos | i am a new user of kubuntu and i am very impressed | 08:01 |
| buz | is there something like crystalcpuid or rmclock that actually works under linux? | 08:02 |
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| gdh | heh that was nice of christos :) no '...but I can't get my <nnnn> working' or anything | 08:03 |
| uniq | buz: what are they doing? | 08:03 |
| buz | it's like more flexible cool and quiet, they adjust voltage/cpufreq more finely grained | 08:04 |
| buz | i don't like hacking cpufreq ;) | 08:04 |
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| uniq | dunno, you have powernowd, cpufreqd and cpudyn the ones i can remember right now. | 08:05 |
| buz | mhh those just take the standards from the bios | 08:05 |
| buz | but the hardware can do more than that | 08:05 |
| buz | especially running at lower voltages to save heat | 08:06 |
| uniq | don't know any app that does that.. no. | 08:06 |
| uniq | happy investigating. | 08:06 |
| uniq | :) | 08:06 |
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| morodo | i had a problem whit root | 08:11 |
| morodo | what this de pass root of default | 08:11 |
| buz | mhh no cpufreq-utils around on ubuntu :( | 08:11 |
| buz | there is none | 08:11 |
| buz | you can set it with sudo passwd | 08:11 |
| dreumah | gkrellm doesnt at to the menu | 08:12 |
| dreumah | why is that? | 08:12 |
| morodo | thanks | 08:12 |
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| shiv | how to get the trash icon on desktop? | 08:45 |
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| kalenedrael | create a link to ~/Desktop/Trash (IIRC) | 08:47 |
| rdsaari | can anyone here tell me how to update ubuntu to the current version? | 08:47 |
| kalenedrael | hmm, what are you using right now? | 08:47 |
| === rdsaari is now known as Church_of_FoamY | ||
| Church_of_FoamY | it's been installed in march | 08:48 |
| Church_of_FoamY | on a freinds box | 08:48 |
| Church_of_FoamY | in febuary scuse me lol | 08:48 |
| kalenedrael | (i'm guessing here) update your /etc/apt/sources.list to contain the repos for the new version | 08:48 |
| kalenedrael | apt-get update | 08:49 |
| kalenedrael | apt-get upgrade | 08:49 |
| Church_of_FoamY | i want to update it to the current version | 08:49 |
| Church_of_FoamY | ok | 08:49 |
| kalenedrael | that's what makes sense to me, at least | 08:49 |
| kalenedrael | don't go "OMG WTF" at me if it doesn't work.... ;) | 08:49 |
| Church_of_FoamY | OMG WTF it diden't work lol | 08:50 |
| Church_of_FoamY | how to tell what the current version is? | 08:50 |
| Church_of_FoamY | the command? | 08:50 |
| kalenedrael | umm | 08:51 |
| kalenedrael | try uname -a | 08:51 |
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| kalenedrael | that tells you kernel info though | 08:52 |
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| Church_of_FoamY | hmmm can't seem to get it to update the repos | 08:54 |
| Church_of_FoamY | it's ubuntu 0.3 | 08:55 |
| Church_of_FoamY | is there a nother way to update it | 08:55 |
| kalenedrael | hm | 08:57 |
| kalenedrael | ok, just download an iso and install | 08:58 |
| Church_of_FoamY | yea thats what i'm gonna do see ya in a bit | 09:03 |
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| gsuveg | re | 09:23 |
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| _heiner | Hi there. | 09:24 |
| gsuveg | the 341 upgrade works good ? w/o problem ? | 09:24 |
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| _heiner | Just wanted to say this distrib rocks! | 09:24 |
| _heiner | well ... got a little problem: | 09:24 |
| Tm_T | no shit man! | 09:24 |
| Tm_T | ;p | 09:24 |
| _heiner | XEmacs has the fixed font | 09:25 |
| _heiner | but kde hasn't | 09:25 |
| _heiner | especially konsole hasn't... | 09:25 |
| _heiner | is there a way to fix this? | 09:25 |
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| _freak | hi all. | 09:48 |
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| apollo2011 | I have KDE and Gnome installed on Ubuntu (ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop packages). I am used to using KDE but wanted to try out Gnome. However, now that I hae Gnome, its login manager is set as the default and I would prefer to use the KDE login manager. How do I switch back to the KDE login manager? | 09:56 |
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| gdh | dpkg-reconfigure kdm - it should ask you which you want | 09:57 |
| apollo2011 | cool thx | 09:57 |
| gdh | or, you'll need to fiddle with update-alternatives | 09:57 |
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| apollo2011 | i think that did it...lets find out bbl | 09:58 |
| _henning | someone can make pure-ftpd work with MySQL ? i've tryed all day :S | 09:59 |
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| _george | hey, i was in here a bit ago asking about installing some nvidia drivers, well i got them installed and they worked the first time i ran kde with them but then i rebooted the machine and nothin but a blank screen came up | 10:04 |
| _george | anybody know what the problem might be? | 10:05 |
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| Alex[RM-UK] | Hi :( | 10:06 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | Is anyone else having trouble with K Menu Edit? | 10:06 |
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| Alex[RM-UK] | I've just lost 30 + Items, even though they are there in K Menu Edit, but not on the actuall menu | 10:06 |
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| Alex[RM-UK] | KDE have changed there Menu Editor Name to Menu Destroyer to give it a more accurate name | 10:10 |
| diwaker | _heiner: there are *plenty* of fixed width fonts for konsole, if thats what you're talking about | 10:11 |
| KaiL_ | no Problems known with kmenuedit. | 10:11 |
| diwaker | _heiner: try Bitstream Vera Sans Mono, Lucida Sans Mono | 10:11 |
| CellarDoor | Menu Editor works fine for me | 10:11 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | IT's just destroyed my menu! | 10:12 |
| diwaker | _heiner: or enable bitmapped fonts (dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig) and then try out LucidaTypeWriter | 10:12 |
| CellarDoor | Ever since I ditched Mandrake I've had no problems with Menu Editor | 10:12 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | in Menu Edit, It's all nice and fine - everything how I want. Ok lets save it..... OH MY GOOD where are my folders and they are there icons I didnt put there, there and different names?1 | 10:12 |
| CellarDoor | hehe | 10:12 |
| CellarDoor | sounds like an experience I had with WinXP | 10:13 |
| CellarDoor | No more kicker in KDE4 | 10:14 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | Kicker? | 10:14 |
| CellarDoor | yuh | 10:14 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | whats that | 10:14 |
| CellarDoor | that thing along the bottom of your screen | 10:14 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | Ahhh, | 10:14 |
| CellarDoor | hehe | 10:14 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | why no more Kicker in KDE 4? | 10:14 |
| CellarDoor | bein replaced by somethin better :) | 10:14 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | GOOD | 10:15 |
| CellarDoor | hehe | 10:15 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | when will it be released? | 10:15 |
| dreumah | when, how can i get kde4? | 10:15 |
| CellarDoor | hmm I think KDE4 and a new gnome are both comming out at the end of the year | 10:15 |
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| CellarDoor | kicker is being replaced by a new panel devel which I believe integrates superkaramba and is called Plasma | 10:19 |
| Tm_T | hmm | 10:19 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | Sounds fun, when do we all get one? | 10:19 |
| Tm_T | noooo | 10:20 |
| Tm_T | not another bloat | 10:20 |
| Tm_T | keep it simple! | 10:20 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | Aye suppose so there young Tm_T | 10:20 |
| CellarDoor | nah not bloat | 10:20 |
| CellarDoor | replacement | 10:20 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | no! I'd rather have a MENU EDITOR than a MENU DESTROYER | 10:20 |
| CellarDoor | out with the old | 10:20 |
| CellarDoor | hehe | 10:20 |
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| === Tm_T is old fart who like light and simple desktop (sometimes) ;) | ||
| Alex[RM-UK] | It's due out this year, | 10:21 |
| CellarDoor | :) | 10:21 |
| CellarDoor | will have nice new graphicy features | 10:22 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/vectorlinux/development/veclinux-soho-4.0-dev/screenshots/kde-icewm/kde-microgui1.jpg | 10:22 |
| CellarDoor | so will gnome | 10:22 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | Look - that lucky bugger has a menu! | 10:22 |
| CellarDoor | hehe | 10:22 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | http://www.babylon2k.de/pub/kde/kate-kde4-20050522.png | 10:23 |
| CellarDoor | shall I do a screenshot and say, "behold, I have a menu also" | 10:23 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | KDE 4 Kate | 10:23 |
| CellarDoor | yeah theyre not giving too much away | 10:23 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | well they are ... KDE 4 ...its free lol so they give it away | 10:24 |
| CellarDoor | :P | 10:24 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | how come something like Linux and KDE be free? it's mad | 10:24 |
| CellarDoor | thats not what I mean ! | 10:24 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | I know I know | 10:25 |
| CellarDoor | hehe | 10:25 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | :P | 10:25 |
| CellarDoor | yeah cool isn't it | 10:25 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | insane | 10:25 |
| CellarDoor | Linux - free = kewl | 10:25 |
| CellarDoor | KDE - free = kewl | 10:25 |
| CellarDoor | opensource = megakewl | 10:25 |
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| === Tm_T isn't that free | ||
| Tm_T | ;-P | 10:25 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | Linux + KDE = Kewl | 10:25 |
| CellarDoor | hehe | 10:25 |
| CellarDoor | beware of the gnomie | 10:26 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | Linux + KDE + Menu Eater = Yum | 10:26 |
| CellarDoor | they will lead you to the dark side | 10:26 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | I dont like gnome | 10:26 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | feels flat and heavy and as if it goes along at 2 MPH | 10:26 |
| CellarDoor | I'm more comfortable with KDE | 10:26 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | and me | 10:26 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | I dont want to close my MEnu Edit screen incase I do looose all of my Icons | 10:27 |
| CellarDoor | might install 3.4.1 | 10:27 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | What shall I do, risk it and restart? | 10:27 |
| CellarDoor | but will backup first :P | 10:27 |
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| CellarDoor | hmm, I'd save the changes and see what happens | 10:28 |
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| Alex[RM-UK] | I have, | 10:28 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | it makes its own mind up what to do | 10:28 |
| CellarDoor | if it goes wierd again, restart X and see what that does | 10:28 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | :'( | 10:28 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | I closed it, reopedn it ...and non of my icons are there | 10:28 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | :'( | 10:28 |
| CellarDoor | aww | 10:28 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | I havnt got a clue the links to all the System and Ultilites either | 10:29 |
| CellarDoor | try restarting kde and see if that clears it up | 10:29 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | hum ok | 10:29 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | cya in a min | 10:29 |
| CellarDoor | :) | 10:29 |
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| Alex[RM-UK] | Damage Report - It was kind enough to give me back my Ultilites, Productivty, and Accessories Folders | 10:31 |
| CellarDoor | :) | 10:31 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | but it's already digested the System, Office and Multimedia folder | 10:31 |
| CellarDoor | hrmm | 10:31 |
| CellarDoor | wierd | 10:31 |
| CellarDoor | try a reboot ? | 10:32 |
| CellarDoor | :P | 10:32 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | will do later ... cant be bothered right now to be honest | 10:32 |
| CellarDoor | hehe | 10:32 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | Ahh deep joy, school tomorrow. Great, Whack numbers into your head, learn how to put full stop here, comma there. Run around the field and get freezing, solder a bit of metal to curcuit board, then good ol geography | 10:33 |
| CellarDoor | been ages since I had any problems with KDE meny | 10:34 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | not me :P | 10:34 |
| error403 | Alex[RM-UK] , sounds like you have fun.... | 10:34 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | error403, Oh I do, it's great ^^ | 10:34 |
| error403 | heh | 10:34 |
| error403 | im starting University next year... | 10:34 |
| error403 | >.< | 10:34 |
| error403 | 5 years | 10:34 |
| error403 | Masters in Software Engineering | 10:35 |
| CellarDoor | ooer | 10:35 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | Maths I sit there and learn a new trick with my pen lol. English I look around the room. PE I .... try and do nothing. Tech I like. And Geography the teacher is so funny - he hasnt got a clue whats going on | 10:35 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | Nice, but 5 years :S | 10:35 |
| error403 | lol | 10:35 |
| error403 | well, Masters, with a 1-year placement | 10:35 |
| error403 | should be fun | 10:35 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | should be | 10:35 |
| error403 | nice debt by the time im done! | 10:35 |
| error403 | lol | 10:35 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | lol | 10:35 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | How can you be a Software Engineerer? | 10:36 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | isnt Enginering hands on, making things out of metal type of stuff? | 10:36 |
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| error403 | heh | 10:36 |
| error403 | Software Engineering is taking the engineer approch to designing applications | 10:37 |
| error403 | so that it can be done efficiently, by a team | 10:37 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | Ahh, I see - What kind of language do you use? | 10:37 |
| error403 | at the moment? | 10:37 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | yeh | 10:37 |
| error403 | not much of anything | 10:37 |
| error403 | havent had the time recently... | 10:37 |
| error403 | but anyway | 10:37 |
| error403 | the whole point of the degree is to teach the METHODs | 10:37 |
| error403 | so ytou can then pick up ANY language easily... | 10:38 |
| error403 | not to teach a specific language | 10:38 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | Ah right, so not actually teaching of the language | 10:38 |
| error403 | so should be fun | 10:38 |
| error403 | yeah | 10:38 |
| error403 | exactly | 10:38 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | yeh, should be good | 10:38 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | just make sure you dont have someone like my geo teacher | 10:38 |
| error403 | but from that we get to use anything from interpreted Perl to compiled C++ etc... | 10:38 |
| error403 | lol | 10:39 |
| error403 | well, the university i am going to is top in the country for computer science degrees | 10:39 |
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| Alex[RM-UK] | Nice, | 10:39 |
| Ghetek | argh! im having trouble with wine | 10:39 |
| error403 | and gets a third of ALL reasearch funding in the UK | 10:39 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | Shouldnt be drinking here mate, | 10:39 |
| error403 | lol | 10:39 |
| Ghetek | haha | 10:39 |
| error403 | wow | 10:39 |
| error403 | i forgot how EASY kubuntu is to set up | 10:40 |
| error403 | lol | 10:40 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | :| what uni is it? I live in UK too | 10:40 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | yeh it's easy to setup | 10:40 |
| error403 | York | 10:40 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | so nic onec done to | 10:40 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | Cool, been there a few times | 10:40 |
| error403 | yeah, i been once, for the interview | 10:40 |
| error403 | amazing university | 10:40 |
| error403 | and nice place too | 10:40 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | Huge unis are | 10:40 |
| error403 | anyway | 10:41 |
| CellarDoor | kubuntu roolz | 10:41 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | it does indeed | 10:41 |
| error403 | i just realised how easy Kubuntu was to install again, coz i just attempted a Debian Woody install | 10:41 |
| error403 | >.< | 10:41 |
| CellarDoor | :P | 10:41 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | lol | 10:41 |
| error403 | why did i inflict THAT upon myself... | 10:41 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | cos your silly :P | 10:42 |
| error403 | ARGH! | 10:42 |
| error403 | one thing i hate about cases with doors on the front | 10:42 |
| error403 | fucking auto-ejects,,,, | 10:42 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | the cd drive | 10:42 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | yep, I got one | 10:42 |
| error403 | lol | 10:42 |
| error403 | good ol' eBuyer | 10:42 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | like someone knocking on the door lol | 10:42 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | hehe, | 10:42 |
| error403 | where would i be without them | 10:42 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | Windows | 10:42 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | :| | 10:42 |
| error403 | ? | 10:42 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | youd be with windows without them | 10:43 |
| error403 | lol | 10:43 |
| error403 | not really | 10:43 |
| error403 | but anyway | 10:43 |
| CellarDoor | Debian still makes my brain hurties | 10:43 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | aye suppose so | 10:43 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | only think I like about Debbie is | 10:43 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | packages :P | 10:43 |
| error403 | i would be without my new 200GB SATA drive and 1GB Corsair RAM | 10:43 |
| error403 | lol | 10:43 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | :P nice | 10:43 |
| CellarDoor | showoff | 10:43 |
| error403 | the only thing i like about debian is.... nothing yet! | 10:43 |
| error403 | lol | 10:43 |
| Ghetek | ive been waiting 5 min for winetools to download arial fonts | 10:43 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | wish I had 1GB of ram for all the graphics work I do | 10:43 |
| Ghetek | should i stop waiting? | 10:44 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | yes | 10:44 |
| error403 | i cant get the fucker to use my network interface OR graphics card | 10:44 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | I wait 20 mins to download IE | 10:44 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | never happened | 10:44 |
| Ghetek | but im on comcast cable | 10:44 |
| Ghetek | and its still 0% | 10:44 |
| error403 | Alex[RM-UK] , i found RAM useful... ran a huge render in Terragen | 10:44 |
| error403 | lol | 10:44 |
| Ghetek | ugh | 10:44 |
| Ghetek | terragen... too easy | 10:44 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | Wine - I dont use - I use cross over and cedega for games | 10:44 |
| error403 | ... | 10:44 |
| error403 | Alex[RM-UK] , is cross-over office actually any good for getting decent framerates out of games? | 10:45 |
| Ghetek | move off of terragen and onto maya and 3ds | 10:45 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | No, | 10:45 |
| error403 | lol | 10:45 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | Cross over I use for programs, | 10:45 |
| error403 | anything that is? | 10:45 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | Cedega I use for games.. | 10:45 |
| Ghetek | how/where fo i get cedega? | 10:45 |
| error403 | coz i managed to run SoF2 under Wine once? | 10:45 |
| error403 | lol | 10:45 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | *cough* internet | 10:45 |
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| error403 | Cedega = paid for? | 10:46 |
| Ghetek | no freee versions? | 10:46 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | it is yes...but doesnt have to be ;-) | 10:46 |
| Ghetek | oh yeah | 10:46 |
| Ghetek | you can compile yourself right? | 10:46 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | I think you can..but I never found that option ..so I turned to the Bit Torrent Side | 10:46 |
| anna | Are the KDE 3.4.1 debs from topic Ok? | 10:46 |
| CellarDoor | mmm cedega... must get around to that | 10:46 |
| error403 | hmm | 10:47 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | cedega - is free I think...so if you downlaod it using Bit torrent its not illegal | 10:47 |
| error403 | Alex[RM-UK] , you get decent framerates? | 10:47 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | thats if it is free. | 10:47 |
| Ghetek | winetools still downloading... 0% | 10:47 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | yeh, I'd say Vice city runs better in linux than windows | 10:47 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | Ghetk - give up on Wine - I was there for 20 mins waiting for IE to download. never happened | 10:47 |
| CellarDoor | ugh | 10:47 |
| CellarDoor | why would you wan't to download IE ? | 10:47 |
| error403 | Alex[RM-UK] , i ran S0F2 under Wine once... | 10:48 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | you have to | 10:48 |
| error403 | PAINFUL! | 10:48 |
| error403 | lol | 10:48 |
| CellarDoor | no ! | 10:48 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | whats SOF2? | 10:48 |
| Ghetek | ok | 10:48 |
| Ghetek | where do i get cedega | 10:48 |
| error403 | Soldier of Fortune 2 | 10:48 |
| error403 | lol | 10:48 |
| Ghetek | lets see here | 10:48 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | ahhh, | 10:48 |
| CellarDoor | Ghetek, from transgaming | 10:48 |
| error403 | http://www.torrentspy.com/search.asp?query=cedega&submit.x=0&submit.y=0 | 10:48 |
| Ghetek | wikipedia... cedega... | 10:48 |
| CellarDoor | ooer | 10:48 |
| error403 | ummm | 10:48 |
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| Alex[RM-UK] | cedega is free I THINK - so if it is torrent wont be illegal | 10:48 |
| error403 | not that im promoting warez or anything | 10:48 |
| error403 | Alex[RM-UK] , i need the .deb? | 10:48 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | yes | 10:49 |
| error403 | ok | 10:49 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | Cedega 4.3.2 Debian | 10:49 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | Cedega 4.3 DEB | 10:49 |
| CellarDoor | Deb for kubuntu right | 10:49 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | Aye thats the one litle soldier | 10:49 |
| CellarDoor | :P | 10:49 |
| Tm_T | hmmh | 10:49 |
| Tm_T | maybe I should try cedega myself too | 10:49 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | its really good | 10:50 |
| CellarDoor | heehe | 10:50 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | dont run programs on it though..they dont seem to work for some reason | 10:50 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | Games run great though | 10:50 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | it even runs Half Life 2 which I was quite worried about lol | 10:50 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | I thought someone had changed my hard drive back to Windows, and gave me a KDE them,e | 10:50 |
| CellarDoor | kewlness | 10:51 |
| error403 | Alex[RM-UK] , if this Cedega works, im dumping Windows | 10:51 |
| Ghetek | ...sudo apt-cache search azearus... azuras... how do i spell that thing again? | 10:51 |
| error403 | Period. | 10:51 |
| CellarDoor | yeah it works | 10:51 |
| error403 | the only reasons i keep windows.... | 10:51 |
| error403 | Games | 10:51 |
| error403 | that about it | 10:51 |
| error403 | lol | 10:51 |
| Ghetek | azureas? | 10:51 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | Ghetek, To downlaod Azueure do this | 10:51 |
| error403 | azureus | 10:51 |
| Ghetek | thats the one! | 10:51 |
| Ghetek | ok | 10:51 |
| error403 | i compiled from source | 10:51 |
| error403 | lol | 10:51 |
| error403 | just for the hell of it... | 10:51 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | ok lost link, program name is azureus | 10:52 |
| Ghetek | no that wasnt it | 10:52 |
| Ghetek | esher: Couldn't find package azureus | 10:52 |
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| error403 | thats coz its not in apt-get | 10:52 |
| error403 | lol | 10:52 |
| Ghetek | ... | 10:52 |
| CellarDoor | umm I don't have bitorrent... duh | 10:52 |
| Ghetek | yeah me neither | 10:53 |
| error403 | Ghetel | 10:53 |
| error403 | Ghetek | 10:53 |
| Ghetek | yeah | 10:53 |
| error403 | http://azureus.sourceforge.org | 10:53 |
| error403 | there | 10:53 |
| CellarDoor | whats azureus ? | 10:53 |
| Ghetek | ugh... not apt-gettable | 10:53 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | Amazing Bit torrent source | 10:53 |
| error403 | a bittorrent client | 10:53 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | client yes | 10:53 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | lol | 10:53 |
| CellarDoor | ooer | 10:53 |
| error403 | THE BEST | 10:53 |
| error403 | lol | 10:53 |
| error403 | i love it on Linux AND windozew | 10:54 |
| CellarDoor | isnt it apt-gettable ? | 10:54 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | me too, | 10:54 |
| error403 | and DAMN this is fucking fast on my new RAM etc... | 10:54 |
| error403 | lol | 10:54 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | :P | 10:54 |
| error403 | havent run Kubuntu on my desktop before | 10:54 |
| error403 | lol | 10:54 |
| CellarDoor | kubuntu is quite zippy | 10:54 |
| Ghetek | "Download Azureus2.3.0.2.jar.torrent" | 10:54 |
| Ghetek | haha | 10:54 |
| Ghetek | sorry i just found that funny | 10:55 |
| error403 | and i REALLY must stop saving everything to desktop | 10:55 |
| error403 | lol | 10:55 |
| Ghetek | like winzip-install.zip | 10:55 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | lol | 10:55 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | yeh its if you have a bot torrent client you can download it suing that | 10:55 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | using* | 10:55 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | bot torrent? cool whats that | 10:55 |
| Ghetek | no i know its just kinda funny | 10:55 |
| error403 | lol | 10:55 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | it is are | 10:55 |
| error403 | ... | 10:55 |
| error403 | ARGH | 10:55 |
| error403 | head hurts! | 10:56 |
| error403 | hmm, im not liking this CLEAN install tho | 10:56 |
| error403 | any way to port all my settings? | 10:56 |
| Ghetek | great idea!!! someone who has bit torrent, go here http://www.torrentspy.com/search.asp?mode=torrentdetails&id=296046 | 10:56 |
| Ghetek | then please send me file over irc | 10:56 |
| Ghetek | its that easy | 10:56 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | I already have the .deb file | 10:56 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | i'll send it | 10:56 |
| Ghetek | thank you! | 10:56 |
| Ghetek | and now i get to test out file transfers over kopete | 10:57 |
| error403 | lol | 10:57 |
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| Alex[RM-UK] | kopete? | 10:57 |
| error403 | >.< | 10:57 |
| error403 | Kopete, IRC | 10:57 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | Im doing this thorugh IRC | 10:57 |
| error403 | Ouch | 10:57 |
| error403 | dude | 10:57 |
| Ghetek | irc + aim + msn + ICQ + Y! | 10:57 |
| error403 | XCHAT ALL THE WAY! | 10:57 |
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| error403 | for IRC | 10:57 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | xchat I mean | 10:57 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | Ghetek, take the file | 10:58 |
| Ghetek | i heard a noise.. | 10:58 |
| CellarDoor | can someone post me the link where I can dl azureus from ? | 10:58 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | ahh whats your MSN it will be easier, | 10:59 |
| Ghetek | cant figure out how to take the file | 10:59 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | im trying to find a link I had to install Azurues and other cool things | 10:59 |
| CellarDoor | I'm using Konversation for my IRC | 10:59 |
| Ghetek | my msn is ghetek@gmail.com | 10:59 |
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| error403 | anyway | 10:59 |
| error403 | ill BBL | 10:59 |
| error403 | c ya ppl | 10:59 |
| Ghetek | ciao | 10:59 |
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| CellarDoor | cya | 11:00 |
| Alex[RM-UK] | cya gotta go | 11:02 |
| CellarDoor | cya | 11:03 |
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| Mojo_Jojo | hello, I was trying to convert my friends ubuntu to kubuntu. I did 'apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' and it seemed to work. But after I restarted, it gives a KDE login window, and after I log in, it goes to GNOME anyways. | 11:16 |
| kalenedrael | delete gdm | 11:16 |
| Mojo_Jojo | and another thing... everytime I start a KDE app, it freezes the computer, will deleting gdm fix that too? | 11:17 |
| Tm_T | Mojo_Jojo: you have to choose another session type | 11:17 |
| gdh | you need to choose the session type... | 11:17 |
| gdh | heh | 11:17 |
| Tm_T | you're slow! | 11:17 |
| Tm_T | ;--P | 11:17 |
| Mojo_Jojo | how would I do that? | 11:17 |
| Tm_T | in that login screen | 11:18 |
| Mojo_Jojo | ohh | 11:18 |
| Mojo_Jojo | yeah, I'll look for that, awesome! | 11:18 |
| Mojo_Jojo | but is it normal for the comptuer to freeze when I start KDE apps ? | 11:18 |
| kalenedrael | no :P | 11:18 |
| Mojo_Jojo | I guess I'll just download kubuntu. | 11:19 |
| kalenedrael | that may be a good idea | 11:20 |
| Mojo_Jojo | he is on athlon 64... could that contribute to the problem ? | 11:22 |
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| dreumah | i have an athlon 64 and install ubuntu after kubuntu i can run both without problems | 11:23 |
| dreumah | installed* | 11:23 |
| Mojo_Jojo | ahh, k | 11:24 |
| Mojo_Jojo | we tried 64bit knoppix on his computer before, and it didnt start at all. | 11:24 |
| dreumah | try the normal knoppix | 11:24 |
| Mojo_Jojo | altough the 64bit knoppix isnt really official project. | 11:24 |
| dreumah | it works fine | 11:24 |
| Mojo_Jojo | normal knoppix on 64bit ? | 11:24 |
| dreumah | yeah | 11:25 |
| dreumah | i done that | 11:25 |
| dreumah | on my laptop | 11:25 |
| dreumah | and it worked very well | 11:25 |
| Mojo_Jojo | ohh, I thought that wouldnt work at all | 11:25 |
| apollo2011 | How do I use ndiswrapper to setup Wi-Fi setup on my Dell Inspiron 8600 with a Dell (Broadcom Wi-Fi card? | 11:25 |
| dreumah | dunno | 11:25 |
| Mojo_Jojo | Im on normal knoppix right now, I *heart* knoppix | 11:25 |
| Mojo_Jojo | thanks dreumah, I'll try that! | 11:25 |
| dreumah | no worries | 11:25 |
| dreumah | its all about helping | 11:26 |
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| apollo2011 | How do I use ndiswrapper to setup Wi-Fi setup on my Dell Inspiron 8600 with a Dell (Broadcom Wi-Fi card? | 11:29 |
| mats | The Application KDE Daeamon (kded) crashed and couse the signal 11 (SIGSEGV) Does anyone know what that mean? | 11:30 |
| kalenedrael | that means it crashed | 11:31 |
| kalenedrael | ok, apollo2011, first, get the windows drivers | 11:31 |
| kalenedrael | and ndiswrapper, obviously | 11:31 |
| kalenedrael | mats, if it doesn't occur often and doesn't appear to do any harm, don't worry about it | 11:32 |
| osh_ | install ndiswrapper. put module in autoload.modules (or whatever it's called), get the windows drivers. ndiswrapper -i driver.sys, iwconfig wlan0 key your-key essid your-essid etc.... then do a dhcp wlan0. | 11:32 |
| osh_ | apollo2011: the text above was for you. | 11:32 |
| kalenedrael | or dhclient | 11:32 |
| kalenedrael | or you can set a static ip, like id | 11:32 |
| kalenedrael | o | 11:32 |
| osh_ | yes, dhclient is the correct command. | 11:32 |
| kalenedrael | i do* | 11:32 |
| mats | how do i get KDE to NOT auto open my dvd with kaffeine? | 11:34 |
| kalenedrael | open up the control center, i think there may be an option there | 11:35 |
| mats | kalenedrael: ok, thanks .. ill have a look | 11:36 |
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| bobbyd | hmm | 11:39 |
| bobbyd | when I try to open a cd in kde I get "mount: mount point /media/cdrom0 does not exist" | 11:39 |
| bobbyd | any ideas? | 11:39 |
| bobbyd | (btw kubuntu rocks :) | 11:40 |
| osh_ | bobbyd: My guess would be that /media/cdrom0 doesn't exist. | 11:40 |
| bobbyd | osh_: well yeah :). Do I need to create that manually? | 11:40 |
| bobbyd | oops | 11:41 |
| bobbyd | it seems I have inadvertantly named an nfs dir /media | 11:41 |
| bobbyd | i suppose it's supposed to be a system dir | 11:41 |
| osh_ | bobbyd: that might be the root of your troubles... :-) | 11:42 |
| bobbyd | that's a little annoying, I've had a /media dir for along time, but I'll rename it... | 11:42 |
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| nmorse | So what did my latest dist-upgrade get from kubuntu.org? | 11:52 |
| nmorse | I see kopete, et als in there | 11:52 |
| Tm_T | why you use dist-upgrade? | 11:54 |
| nmorse | Because Debian Sid was my bread and butter for years | 11:56 |
| Tm_T | haha | 11:59 |
| Tm_T | Debian <3 | 11:59 |
| apollo2011 | How do I use ndiswrapper to setup Wi-Fi setup on my Dell Inspiron 8600 with a Dell (Broadcom Wi-Fi card? | 12:00 |
| apollo2011 | What packages do I install for the kernel sources? | 12:01 |
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