[12:04] alguien m puede decir cual es mejor el kununtu o el knoppix ????????????????????????? [12:06] <_Church_of_Foamy> mount: can't find /dev/hdd1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab [12:06] <_Church_of_Foamy> Please check that the disk is entered correctly. [12:06] <_Church_of_Foamy> what gives? [12:06] well, if you just plain mount it linux thinks you have all the other info in /etc/fstab [12:07] <_Church_of_Foamy> i want it to be a drive used for storage [12:07] <_Church_of_Foamy> and backups [12:07] <_Church_of_Foamy> how to fix so i can mount [12:07] hang on [12:08] <_Church_of_Foamy> kk' [12:08] _Church_of_Foamy: /dev/hdd1 /mnt/wherever ext3 defaults 0 0 [12:08] add that line to /etc/fstab but replace "wherever" for your mountpoint [12:09] <_Church_of_Foamy> ok and how to teel what my mountpoint is? === omni_lonnie [~lonnie@home.limbonia.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:09] well, you decide. Me, I mount disks in the /mnt directory, giving each partition a describing name (like "storage","backup", etc.) [12:10] <_Church_of_Foamy> i gave mine the name storage [12:10] <_Church_of_Foamy> it's /dev/hdd1 [12:10] so the folder is /mnt/storage ? or just /storage? [12:11] <_Church_of_Foamy> so i would put the name storage in there in place of wherever? [12:11] yes [12:11] <_Church_of_Foamy> ok cool [12:11] <_Church_of_Foamy> now how to edit the file? [12:12] has anyone got knights working? the chess server? [12:12] _Church_of_Foamy: wanna learn "vi"? ;-) [12:12] easy way is to use kedit or something, but you have to be root to do it [12:12] vi is nice when you know how and just masochistic if you don't [12:14] vi is also standard on all unix-systems. learn that, use everywhere. sort of like java, but not. [12:14] <_Church_of_Foamy> i was gonna use my favorite which is gedit [12:14] <_Church_of_Foamy> vi would be scary to me right now lol [12:15] but osh_ is right, in the long run vi is handy [12:15] _Church_of_Foamy: wanna get scared. try "ed". that's some really scary shit. :-) [12:15] <_Church_of_Foamy> i bet but i'm afraid i would screw up my box [12:16] <_Church_of_Foamy> and i have got it just the way i like it lol === DickJack [~purdy@washdc3-ar8-4-62-076-148.washdc3.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:16] well you can't really know if it will break your system until you try ;P [12:16] <_Church_of_Foamy> true [12:16] hello [12:16] <_Church_of_Foamy> but i'll stick with what i know for now lol [12:17] besides, in case you forgot the mantra for the day: it's "backup" [12:17] <_Church_of_Foamy> i know thats why i'm trying to create this storage drve [12:17] <_Church_of_Foamy> so i can backup lol [12:17] Real men don't do backups. Real men cries. ;-) [12:17] <_Church_of_Foamy> roflmao [12:18] yeah, they cry after being fired for not making backups [12:18] <_Church_of_Foamy> well smart men do backups lol [12:18] <_Church_of_Foamy> do i wanna edit mtab or fstab? [12:18] fstab [12:18] <_Church_of_Foamy> k [12:20] <_Church_of_Foamy> [mntent] : line 7 in /etc/fstab is bad [12:20] <_Church_of_Foamy> mount: can't find /dev/hdd1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab [12:21] <_Church_of_Foamy> what the hell? [12:21] what command did you run to get that error? [12:22] <_Church_of_Foamy> right clicked on the drive and selected mount [12:22] <_Church_of_Foamy> /dev/hdd1 /mnt/storage ext3 defaults 0 0 [12:22] <_Church_of_Foamy> is what i put into the fstab [12:23] <\sh> do u created the directory /mnt/storage ? [12:23] <_Church_of_Foamy> um i just formatted with qtparted and it asked me the name of the drive [12:23] <_Church_of_Foamy> so i typed storage [12:24] oh, I tought you said you created the folder [12:24] just mkdir /mnt/storage [12:24] <_Church_of_Foamy> nope [12:24] <_Church_of_Foamy> ok [12:24] mount-poiunts must exist before use [12:25] s/poiunts/points [12:25] <_Church_of_Foamy> damnit [12:25] <_Church_of_Foamy> same error === Slash [~Slash@68-70-134-231.lkwnny.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:26] <_Church_of_Foamy> do i need to be in the drive or something? [12:26] no [12:26] <_Church_of_Foamy> damnit what did i do wrong? [12:26] pm me your /etc/fstab [12:27] <_Church_of_Foamy> ok === dEdd [~edd@c-67-174-11-185.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === kakalto [~kakalto@wired-210-54-56-157.ps.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu [12:29] <_Church_of_Foamy> i made a screensaver for kubuntu that emulates the "blue screen" of death [12:29] <_Church_of_Foamy> just because i miss it lol [12:29] <_Church_of_Foamy> weedar: sent you my fstab [12:29] yeah, I'm thinking :) [12:30] <_Church_of_Foamy> oh ok lol [12:30] <_Church_of_Foamy> i tryed that once it hert for days lol [12:30] <_Church_of_Foamy> >.< [12:33] Foamy: if you in console type "sudo mount /mnt/storage", what happens? [12:34] <_Church_of_Foamy> pm'd it to you [12:35] _Church_of_Foamy: ok, let's do this private :) === _P_ [~princoscr@host-84-220-136-80.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #kubuntu === Groov [~bombertes@p54A39F20.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [12:46] one question, must i install ubuntu to install kubuntu? === hussam [~hussam@194.126.31.19] has joined #kubuntu [12:46] <\sh> Groov: if u install ubuntu, then u need to sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop to get kubuntu [12:47] <\sh> Groov: or u download the kubuntu install cd and install it directly [12:47] ive downloadet [12:47] but then when i install [12:47] it displays a error, the error is the disk i should brun slower or a network problem === apollo2011 [~ksut@69.177.116.221.adsl.snet.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:48] but i burned the disk slowly [12:48] <\sh> Groov: how did u burn the cd? [12:48] ive downloadet ubuntu too, what must i install to have kubuntu? give it a "update-pack" ? [12:49] I have (K)ubuntu system with both KDE and Gnome installed. I use KDE by default. However, I just noticed that the Switch User option is suddenly missing from my K Menu. [12:49] i wrote the .iso, also the image on cd [12:49] with 4X speed [12:49] ! [12:49] <\sh> Groov: install ubuntu, after u r finished (setting up your network etc.) u can install kubuntu with this command: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" === opi [~emil@oppeln-bronikowski.int.pl] has joined #kubuntu [12:50] <\sh> ok..going to bed now [12:50] ok [12:50] \sh: hmm, you looked that pykde&desktop script issue? [12:50] good night and thanks 4 help [12:50] <\sh> Tm_T: yeah... [12:50] and? [12:50] <\sh> Tm_T: preparing just now the next upload for pykde [12:50] good night @ll i think i tast it one more time [12:51] what "probieren" in english :P [12:51] <\sh> try [12:51] try [12:51] try [12:51] <\sh> Groov: /join #ubuntu-de :) [12:51] omg [12:51] ^^ [12:51] thx [12:51] ^^ [12:51] \sh: ok, so I'll just use apt to update any moment now? [12:51] :P [12:52] <\sh> Tm_T: during the day...i will send them to the buildd and put new hoary packages on my repos [12:52] good night === Groov [~bombertes@p54A39F20.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #kubuntu [] [12:52] <\sh> need to sleep now [12:52] <\sh> cu later today [12:53] \sh: ok thanks :) === hussam [~Hussam@194.126.31.19] has joined #kubuntu [01:03] <_Church_of_Foamy> how do i back up my entire hard drive using konserve? === Segovia [~segovia@modemcable153.21-202-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #kubuntu === _Church_of_Foamy [~shane@24-177-160-171.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === thoreauputic is now known as thor|away [01:11] anybody here's running DVD movies on kaffeine? I have some question [01:11] i do [01:11] not sure if i can answer your question, but i'll try [01:12] what's css and encryption? do these movies come encrypted? [01:12] Unfortunatly, many dvd's in the world come with css and region restrictions meaning that they can only be played on certain dvd players, etc. [01:12] ah. DVD101 :) [01:13] this used to be a pain for trying to use dvd's in linux because of the encryptions, so, there was decss which allows for decryption [01:13] is css different than the region stuff? [01:13] nearly every commercial DVD is encoded with a trivial encryption system called CSS :) [01:13] unfortunatly, this is illegal in many countries [01:13] is there a workaround? [01:13] of course, this is linux :) [01:14] many distributions don't come with dvd decryption because of the legalities [01:14] the easiest thing to do, if you're using ubuntu, is to add a new apt source line [01:14] i'll get it for you, one sec [01:15] Ok I got the stuff about css and encryption. What about the region stuff? any workaround for that? [01:15] CSS is region-coding. [01:15] yeah, sorry, i wasn't more clear [01:15] No CSS = no concept of regions :) [01:16] add the following lilne to your /etc/apt/sources.list file: deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main [01:16] run apt-get update [01:16] I already have that line [01:16] oh, ok [01:16] sorry [01:17] what do I install? [01:17] you were just asking what the purpose of dvdcss was [01:18] duende: I thought I was going to install something from ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main [01:18] oh, yes, libdvdcss2 and libdvdcss2-dev [01:18] ok I'm installing them now. [01:18] sorry, my blood-alcohol level is getting high [01:19] will this enable playing dvds from other regions? [01:19] yes [01:19] Aye, don't be installing any 3D support software - drink + drivers don't mix. [01:19] haha === zed [~zed@64-252-128-38.adsl.snet.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:20] duende: ok thanks :) === _brandonn [~brandonn@66-7-184-2.estreet.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:21] brb, have to reboot, thanks duende :) === pascalfr92 [~miamiam@cha92-7-82-230-174-61.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === omni_lonnie [~lonnie@home.limbonia.com] has joined #kubuntu === bisley [~bisley@85.57.2.7] has joined #kubuntu [01:29] ok, can anyone help me map caps lock to ctrl? [01:30] eh, why? [01:30] idk, does it matter? :P [01:30] hmm, maybe I remap my capslock to shift =) [01:31] It'd certainly confuse the hell out of anyone who tried to use your computer. [01:32] why? [01:32] also apply dvorak keyboard layout. [01:32] I never use capslock anyway [01:32] I meant capslock to ctrl really :) [01:32] ah =) === bisley [~bisley@85.57.2.7] has joined #kubuntu [01:33] and map 'E' to Ctrl-Alt-Backspace :) [01:34] \o/ [01:35] are the repos down? [01:35] hmm, no? === jkeel [~joshua@kmc-ras1-p34.intrstar.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [01:35] thats strange mine arent working, and they were earlier === nxv_ [~nxv_@dsl-084-056-102-205.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu === KaiL_ [KaiL@p548F7646.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === nxv_ [~nxv_@dsl-084-056-102-205.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu === ztonzy [~ztonzy@ztonzy.artist.blender] has joined #kubuntu === mez is now known as Mez === hussam [~hussam@194.126.31.19] has joined #kubuntu [01:49] <_Church_of_Foamy> does anyone here know how to do a complete harddrive backup? [01:49] <_Church_of_Foamy> using konserve? [01:49] no idea what konserve is, I was about to suggest rsync :) [01:49] <_Church_of_Foamy> whats rsync? [01:50] <_Church_of_Foamy> i thought konserve was a backup utility for kubuntu [01:50] rsync is /the/ synchronisation tool :) [01:50] Konserve is a small backup application for the KDE environment. [01:50] It lives in the system tray and is able to create backups of [01:50] several directories or files periodically. [01:50] <_Church_of_Foamy> oh ok [01:50] Don't know if I'd trust that description [01:50] <_Church_of_Foamy> um yea [01:50] for a whole 'bare metal' backup [01:51] <_Church_of_Foamy> ok so how do i use rsync? do i have to apt-get install it? [01:52] <_Church_of_Foamy> gdh: how do i get rsync do i apt-get install it? [01:53] hi [01:54] what's the best way to deal with something that's an rpm? [01:54] I want to install doom3 [01:54] _Church_of_Foamy: rsync is a commandline app and isn't terribly friendly [01:54] but yes apt-get it [01:54] <_Church_of_Foamy> ok um i want something freindly lol [01:54] bobbyd: you can try apt-get install alien .. then 'alien doom3.....rpm' === kf4ebp [router@dyn-66-208-179-236.americainter.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:55] <_Church_of_Foamy> so i can backup my entire hd any ideas? [01:55] bobbyd: that will make 'a' .deb - fingers crossed it might even work [01:55] <_Church_of_Foamy> you can get doom 3 for free? [01:55] gdh: ok I'll research alien [01:55] _Church_of_Foamy: the linux executable, but you need to buy the game to get the data and a key === kf4ebp [router@dyn-66-208-179-236.americainter.net] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [01:55] <_Church_of_Foamy> oh ok [01:55] <_Church_of_Foamy> damn lol [01:56] _Church_of_Foamy: 'entire HD' - do you mean the kind of backup where it puts it all on DVD and if your system fucks up, you just pop the DVD in and it self-boots from the BIOs and restores everything? [01:56] <_Church_of_Foamy> no i mean back it up to a hard drive that is made just for strage [01:56] <_Church_of_Foamy> storage [01:57] <_Church_of_Foamy> cpio<--someone in ubuntu said try this [01:57] <_Church_of_Foamy> should i? [01:57] yeh cpio is about the same level of 'low level' as rsync [01:58] <_Church_of_Foamy> ouch [01:58] <_Church_of_Foamy> no thanx lol [01:58] <_Church_of_Foamy> need something freindlyer lol [01:58] maybe konserve will serve you.. no idea :) [01:58] <_Church_of_Foamy> <--windows free for 29 days and lovin it ^_^ === thor|away is now known as thoreauputic === nxv_ [~nxv_@dsl-084-056-102-205.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:06] hi i can't setup my wlan with wpa, without encryption it works. i am stuck and don't have any more idears what to do === tron_ [~tron@201.247.88.96] has joined #kubuntu [02:07] nxv_: don't use wep/wpa and run something like ipsec or openvpn on top of the 'unencrypted' WLAN? [02:08] gdh: i wan't to use wpa with my hardware dsl router. so i have to use the encryption it already implements [02:08] ah, fair enough.. [02:08] <_Church_of_Foamy> linux rocks ^_^ [02:08] no idea :) [02:10] nxv_: don't suppose it's a linksys ? :) [02:10] gdh: no it's an belkin router, why? [02:11] nxv_: http://www.seattlewireless.net/index.cgi/LinksysWrt54g [02:11] etc. :) === mom [~mom@ip68-108-161-101.lv.lv.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:17] mez@apathy:~$ artsdsp audacity [02:17] /home/mez/.kde/share/config/gtkrc:37: error: unexpected identifier `gtk-alternative-button-order', expected keyword - e.g. `style' [02:17] Segmentation fault [02:17] any ideas anyone [02:24] ok, so, how do i go about mapping caps lock to ctrl? [02:24] i don't want to swap caps and ctrl, i want both of them to mean ctrl [02:25] kalenedrael: easy you can do it in the control center. [02:25] ok [02:26] control center -> regional & accessibility -> keyboard layout -> xkb options (tab) -> [x] enable xkb options -> take a look in the list. [02:26] ok, that was very easy [02:26] thanks [02:26] you're welcome :) [02:27] there was an option called "Make Caps Lock an additional Control" [02:27] yes, that's what you described :) [02:28] Isn't that for users of Sun keyboards where Ctrl is where CapsLock is on a PC keyboard? [02:29] and Alt is the ubiquitous 'meta' key? [02:29] or for users like me. I never use caps, i use ctrl alot. [02:29] making caps an additional control is great. [02:29] yes [02:29] it's easier on the hands [02:30] you don't have to move your hands as far [02:30] oh, and now i won't be accidentally hitting caps, because there is no caps key [02:30] I think the Amiga also had Ctrl where caps is... [02:32] it makes sense. [02:32] caps is misplaced. [02:33] well, i'll call it a day. [02:33] gnite guys. === nxv__ [~nxv_@dsl-084-056-097-169.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:35] aroo? [02:35] trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/default.kde', which is also in package knetworkconf === cydizen [~bruce@VDSL-130-13-177-146.PHNX.QWEST.NET] has joined #kubuntu === Segovia [~segovia@modemcable153.21-202-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #kubuntu [02:37] hello everyone. [02:37] Has anyone installed the Nvidia Drivers, and have is break thier sound? [02:37] *it [02:37] no... [02:38] Just installed Kubuntu lastnight in my search for a better distro, just trying to iron out the details [02:39] yeah [02:39] took me a while too... [02:39] everything worked fine with the (nv) driver, just no openGL, so I installed the prop. driver from the repository, rebooted, with no sound [02:39] no no no don't do that, build your own driver [02:39] download the driver package from nvidia.com [02:39] really [02:39] yeah [02:40] should I apt-get remove the other driver? [02:40] i'd suggest it === Segovia [~segovia@modemcable153.21-202-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #kubuntu [02:40] I will get right on that. [02:40] Back in a bit. Thanks kalendrael [02:40] np [02:40] wait [02:40] before you go... [02:41] yea... [02:41] i'd also suggest downloading several versions of it [02:41] the newest is 1.0-7167 [02:41] okay.. [02:41] i'd get 6111 and up [02:41] in case the newest doesn't work [02:41] and just experiment? [02:41] try the older ones sequentially... [02:41] sounds lick a plan. [02:41] like [02:42] i recall having problems with anything newer than 6111 [02:42] but that's me... [02:42] nope, I am going to do that right now. [02:42] once again, thank you === dell500 [~dell500@southcity-24.107.176.142.charter-stl.com] has joined #kubuntu === dell500 [~dell500@southcity-24.107.176.142.charter-stl.com] has joined #kubuntu === THE_CONSPIRACY_G [~caleb736@CPE-60-224-215-12.wa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #Kubuntu === THE_CONSPIRACY_G [~caleb736@CPE-60-224-215-12.wa.bigpond.net.au] has left #Kubuntu [] === charles_ [~charles@pcp881207pcs.murdoc01.fl.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === dreumah [~dreumah@spc1-derb1-6-0-cust133.bagu.broadband.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:09] hello can some one help me figure out my repos, i must have messed them up because nothing is working [03:09] ? [03:10] aight i ll try in the morning then === Brazmetal [~aguinaldo@200141150023.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #kubuntu [03:14] Hola people.... I have a problem, kmix doesn't save my sound settings.... Need help. [03:20] :( [03:21] hmm [03:21] ok, try setting it, then go to the K menu and select "Save session" === rexykik [~karl@c-24-11-144-126.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:22] how do i change defaults for hotplug so that it doesnt autosync on mount? [03:22] be warned that "save session" will also remember what windows/programs you have open [03:22] hmmm, why would you want to do that, rexykik? [03:22] because sync is bad for fat32 drives [03:23] hm [03:23] do you know the PCM setting? [03:23] i never came across that === Slash [~Slash@68-70-134-231.lkwnny.adelphia.net] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:23] well, when i try to save to the drive using bittorrent, it tells me that it cannot allocate the directory [03:23] which is problem #1 [03:24] while explaining that to the BT chan, they told me that it was bad to sync on a fat32 drive [03:24] but now say that it makes sense, since i am using the drive in an external inclosure via usb [03:24] kalenedrael, so, everytime I play new song in xmms, the pcm setting in kmix goes back to 100% === joedgo [~Ed@200.77.143.1] has joined #kubuntu === joedgo [~Ed@200.77.143.1] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] [03:25] that's odd [03:25] I think pcm controls the noise level... [03:25] yup. === panickedthumb [~travis@68.118.21.165] has joined #kubuntu [03:32] kalenedrael, I don't have "Save Session" in the K menu.... Where is it? === closure [~ubel@adsl-065-013-010-009.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:33] hello everyone [03:33] anybody know why backports is down? [03:33] umm, it may not be there, Brazmetal [03:33] but in kubuntu i think it is [03:34] what are the items right at the bottom of the menu? [03:35] just the common ones, execute, close,block, [03:35] how do i edit my repositories? [03:35] i forgot [03:36] closure, /etc/apt/sources.list [03:36] ? [03:36] it should be that menu with all your apps in it... [03:36] thanks [03:37] should contain like "Lock session" "Log out" "Switch user"... [03:37] yes [03:37] oh for fucks sake i still can't get backports to respond [03:38] : Couldn't stat source package list http://backports.ubuntuforums.org hoary-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/backports.ubuntuforums.org_ubp_dists_hoary-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) [03:38] W: Couldn't stat source package list http://backports.ubuntuforums.org hoary-backports/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/backports.ubuntuforums.org_ubp_dists_hoary-backports_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) [03:38] W: Couldn't stat source package list http://backports.ubuntuforums.org hoary-backports/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/backports.ubuntuforums.org_ubp_dists_hoary-backports_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) [03:38] W: Couldn't stat source package list http://backports.ubuntuforums.org hoary-backports/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/backports.ubuntuforums.org_ubp_dists_hoary-backports_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) [03:38] W: Couldn't stat source package list http://backports.ubuntuforums.org hoary-extras/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/backports.ubuntuforums.org_ubp_dists_hoary-extras_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) === tkayna [~tkayna@ALamentin-101-1-10-46.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [03:38] W: Couldn't stat source package list http://backports.ubuntuforums.org hoary-extras/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/backports.ubuntuforums.org_ubp_dists_hoary-extras_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) [03:38] W: Couldn't stat source package list http://backports.ubuntuforums.org hoary-extras/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/backports.ubuntuforums.org_ubp_dists_hoary-extras_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) [03:38] W: Couldn't stat source package list http://backports.ubuntuforums.org hoary-extras/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/backports.ubuntuforums.org_ubp_dists_hoary-extras_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) [03:39] W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems [03:39] E: Some index files failed to download, t [03:39] whtat [03:39] errr what does that mean? [03:40] O.o don't flood [03:41] just type "apt-get update" [03:41] oh man [03:41] if kdelibs crashes my system again === ilba7r [~ilba7r@d141-64-4.home.cgocable.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:41] i'm going to be so pissed [03:42] hell, if it says "W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems" then by all means do so [03:42] yeah [03:42] i did that [03:42] that's what i got === hussam [~hussam@194.126.31.19] has joined #kubuntu [03:43] oh === claydoh [~claydoh@65.99.187.93] has joined #kubuntu [03:43] well... [03:43] backports may be down [03:43] something from the forums is unlikely to be a 'supported service' so don't be surprised if it dies from time to time. [03:43] i know that the whole thing was down yesterday [03:44] gdh i know this [03:44] it just seems to crash all the time === roque [~roque@200-112-129-189.bbt.net.ar] has joined #kubuntu === _edd [~edd@c-67-174-11-185.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:53] how do i make an ext3 partition? [03:53] can i do it through cfdisk? === sirk [~sirukin@64.247.151.242] has joined #kubuntu === thakat [~thakat@71-34-251-35.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:57] you make partitions with cfdisk... once a partition is made.. you choose what fs to put on it [03:57] oh...right... [03:57] with mkfs.ext3.. or mkfs.reiser or mkfs.xfs etc. === Chislon [~Chislon@24-176-45-129.dhcp.klmz.mi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === dvoid [~dvoid@c-215fe155.2010-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu [03:58] hello [03:58] hullo === sirk is now known as sirukin [03:59] i like the way KDE looks rather then gnome.. but i dont see a kubuntu download from the ubuntu site, i was told to check here [03:59] or ask ehre [03:59] *er ask here [03:59] no [03:59] goto the kubuntu site [03:59] they are so different that they need different sites and rooms? [04:00] The Kubuntu project aims to be to KDE what Ubuntu is to Gnome: an integrated distro with all the great features of Ubuntu, but based on the KDE desktop. [04:00] what is ubuntu to gnome? [04:00] just that ubuntu is a great distro [04:00] but this one is for kde? [04:00] desktop debian [04:00] ? [04:01] bus uses the gnome desktop environment [04:01] desktop debian? [04:01] you mean windows manager? [04:01] as opposed to K Desktop Environment(KDE) [04:01] rexykik, sure whatever [04:01] yup [04:01] meaning that its pretty as hell [04:01] you can tweak the setting to hoolah [04:02] uhm...can edit the kmenu lots easier [04:02] bit more memory intensive, but i think its worth it [04:03] it runs faster on mine [04:03] and this is an old box [04:03] 450mhz/128mb physical ram [04:03] laptop or just old box? [04:03] I have an older machine and I certainly found KDE was smoother than GNOME.. [04:04] laptop [04:04] maybe it's just that i mean i don't do anything intensive on this besides web browsing [04:04] it's all chat really [04:04] well [04:05] i have my news ticker/weather and shit but Opera is definitely the heftiest [04:05] opera is a browser, no? [04:05] yeah [04:05] it doesn [04:05] hows it compare to firefox? [04:05] 't like multimedia so far as i can get it to work [04:05] but i don't really mind that much [04:05] ahh [04:05] and [04:05] Opera is at least Qt based :) [04:06] it has trouble with some shock stuff [04:06] heh heh [04:06] even if it is commercial shite-from-hell :)) [04:06] i'm sure someone smarter than i could configure the damn thing to work [04:06] but i can't seem to make it work right [04:07] konqueror and firefox with flashplayer-nonfree seem to work fine... [04:07] is shockwave still a seperate thing? does anyone use the full shockwave thesedays? [04:08] what's flashplayer-nonfree? [04:08] I mean, aside from on CD-ROM demos and presentations... [04:08] *shrugs* [04:08] closure: the macromedia flash player... [04:08] i've always just used it [04:08] pre-packaged for kubuntu [04:08] hrm [04:08] i wonder if i have that === Jeezis [~roger@jeezis.user] has joined #kubuntu [04:09] look in kynaptic === Brazmetal [~aguinaldo@200141150023.user.veloxzone.com.br] has left #kubuntu ["Fui] [04:09] it'll be in multiverse [04:10] which is neither enabled by default nor commented out in the apt sources.list [04:10] duplicate the 'universe' line and replace universe with multiverse [04:10] it's the equivalent of debian's 'non-free' repository [04:11] what's non-free? [04:11] just what it says? [04:11] Non-Free Software as per http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html [04:11] free to use, but that's often about the biggest freedom it provides [04:12] so should i enable those repos? [04:12] the nonfree? [04:12] universe is a good one to have.. [04:12] ok [04:12] there is very little in multiverse (fortunately :) [04:13] the flashplayer-nonfree is about the most useful thing there. [04:13] and hopefully when Konq supports this AJAX stuff properly (think maps.google.com .... ) Flash will become less important for websites [04:13] as developers finally start to get a clue about cross-platform support [04:14] Yes, I live in a utopian world :) === rexykik gives gdh a pat on the back [04:14] one day... one day.... ;) [04:14] hrm [04:15] i hope to god cause i hate flash [04:15] it's trash [04:15] Flash is a horrible thing whose only justifiable purpose is to 'make funny movies' [04:15] was about to say that gdh [04:15] it reminds me of this program we had on macs way way back [04:15] but the funny movie is rather good [04:16] the apple II and first iMacs [04:16] any company proudly having a flash-only website deserves a huge fine for breaking the disability access regs. [04:16] gdh damn right === Mestapheles [~Captain@d142-179-138-139.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #kubuntu === HillTop [~chatzilla@cpe-66-91-252-59.san.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === rem__ [~rem@adsl-249-172-zh2.tiscali.ch] has joined #kubuntu === g [~g@spotx.net] has joined #kubuntu === spot [~spot@spotx.net] has joined #kubuntu === panickedthumb [~travis@68.118.21.165] has joined #kubuntu [05:09] foo [05:09] i have spent all damn day trying to find a distro that will install in qemu [05:10] kubuntu gives me mysterious errors. ubuntu livecd gets crashy. fedora configures itself fubared. === sproingie is starting to think qemu isn't entirely stable itself === rich52 [~richard@c-24-10-183-121.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:14] I need some help, anyone know how to get kynaptic to work again? It's disappeared. Apt-get in the Konsole works but I like the graphic interface of Kynaptic. . . === jkeel [~joshua@kmc-ras1-p34.intrstar.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:19] does anyone know what package Qt assistant and designer are in? [05:19] I can't find them.. === jkeel [~joshua@kmc-ras1-p34.intrstar.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === _charles [~charles@pcp881207pcs.murdoc01.fl.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === _charles is now known as charles_ === tim_h [~Tim@p54A1DF08.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === daughter [~daughter@200-206-184-159.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #kubuntu === SpookyET [~sorin@24-196-233-44.cpe.ga.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === tim_h__ [~Tim@p54A1CA47.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === nate__ [~nate@c66.168.31.134.mad.wi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:47] how do you reload x, not restart it? someone said something about it the other day and i forgot === SpookyET [~sorin@24-196-233-44.cpe.ga.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === daughter [~daughter@200-206-184-159.dsl.telesp.net.br] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [05:57] anyone installed ubuntu-desktop after installing kubuntu? [05:59] transgress, i have [06:05] ChinaCatJones: have any problems with it? [06:06] i had all kinds or problems when i tried installing kubuntu-desktop from ubuntu [06:12] transgress: I don't recall having any problems going from k to u, but I had some really oddball one's going from u to k [06:13] ChinaCatJones: cool thanks [06:13] yeah gdm and kdm stopped working when i tried going from u to k [06:13] the only thing I can think of is that kubuntu seems to install with a lot of gnome underpinnings [06:14] and those underpinnings are what cause the problem going the other way [06:14] k [06:14] well i guess i might as well give it a shot [06:15] i decided i wanted gnome back [06:28] lol === duende [~duende@stjh1-3505.nl.aliant.net] has joined #kubuntu === bsd_usr [~Hmmmmm@c-67-164-170-193.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === activelow [~jradford@CPE-65-26-197-246.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === Tezkah [~Tezkah@d199-126-56-158.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:06] brb === afrosheen [~afro@c-24-0-141-232.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === sirukin [~sirukin@64.247.151.242] has joined #kubuntu === deepspace9 [~ds9@ASt-Lambert-102-1-2-38.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu === transgress [~transgres@24.181.89.246] has joined #kubuntu === ChinaCatJones [~chris@pool-71-111-176-217.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === afrosheen [~afro@c-24-0-141-232.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === bsd_usr [~Hmmmmm@c-67-164-170-193.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [07:50] ChinaCatJones: deadhead? [08:11] weedar- aiko aiko! [08:13] ChinaCatJones: I've been thinking for two minutes now, trying to find a comeback or hip reply but no can do so; Hi, I like the Dead too [08:15] weedar: no problem [08:16] although I could say your nick is composed partially of my two favorite songs :) [08:18] weedar: mine too, right now I am fighting with my router's firewall and furthur [08:19] i am thinking about awarding Verizon a badge for the fun police [08:21] I still haven't used furthurnet, but I assume the problem is solved by port-forwarding the relevant port to your IP? [08:23] weedar: for the most part yes, but it appears Verizon is blocking well known ports for p2p apps [08:23] Verizon is an ISP then I assume? [08:25] yes, they are one of the larger telco's in the US [08:26] it's funny how all the large telco's in the world have the worst policies [08:27] i am cringing about what happens when I need port 110 and 25 [08:29] Well of course they have to block the ports for email, that's the main source of viruses, they're actually doing you a favor === ikypakis [t8@195.245.229.17] has joined #Kubuntu [08:30] weedar: or as M$ would say, it's a feature [08:31] :D [08:31] There is no way you can make furthur use a different port? === dewey [~dewey@c-67-168-51-149.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === ztonzy [~ztonzy@ztonzy.artist.blender] has joined #kubuntu === activelow [~jradford@CPE-65-26-197-246.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [08:33] ChinaCatJones: It seems to be suggested that you try using port 80, for example, and I assume that one isn't blocked :) [08:33] weedar: I moved the port, I just wanted to make sure I wans't going to be stepping on something else === ubuntu [~ubuntu@user-0c6t3i2.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu [08:37] I'm using the live cd, can someone tell me how to mount my harddrive please? [08:39] ChinaCatJones: I downloaded everything from gdlive.com ages ago, what will furthur give me that I don't already have? (I want a sales-pitch here) [08:40] weedar: Further has a lot more than just the Dead and the dead offshoots, in addition they do video etc, and most of the stuff is lossless === espiem [~shaiespie@60.48.56.158] has joined #kubuntu [08:41] lossless you say, that sounds interesting. I've also been dying to get hold of some videos, all I have are most of their DVDs (commercial ones) [08:41]