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mjg59Micksa: Rock12:16
mjg59Micksa: vbetool is probably what you need12:16
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Micksamjg59: the PCI config for the card gets trashed05:33
MicksaI believe it's PCI express05:40
Micksavebtool doesn't appear to help05:43
Micksaokay, so maybe I'll have to read the PCI spec 8)05:52
lamontg'night all05:57
fabbionemorning06:27
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fabbionehey dilinger 06:31
fabbionelamont: i guess you did commit to your local tree, didn't you?06:47
fabbionedilinger: btw did you ever tested clvm ?07:12
fabbione(since you are one of the lvm2 folks ;))07:13
dilingernope07:14
dilingeri haven't played w/ GFS stuff at all07:14
fabbioneyou don't need GFS to play with clvm :)07:15
fabbionei guess i am going to play with it for you soon07:16
dilingeroh.  well, no, i've only dealt w/ basic lvm07:17
dilingerclvm is cluster lvm, no?07:17
dilingersince redhat ate sistina, and joe thornber stopped working there, i haven't really kept up.  they're no fun anymore :)07:17
fabbioneeheh ok07:18
fabbioneyeah it's cluster lvm07:18
dilingeri never really had the opportunity to play w/ it07:25
fabbioneoky doky :)07:25
dilingersistina freed GFS around the time i quit voxel, i believe07:25
dilingers/sistina/redhat/07:25
fabbioneyeah07:25
dilingerand i don't have the hardware at home07:25
dilingerand my current job is big on openafs07:25
fabbioneyou need 3 pc to do that07:25
fabbiones/pc/boxes/07:25
dilingeri didn't have 3 working pcs :)07:25
dilingeri ended up buying a whole bunch of parts, i had a bunch of dead machines07:26
dilingerand sparc boxes07:26
fabbionewell you can mix hardware...07:26
dilingeri wouldn't quite trust the sparcs w/ stuff like that07:26
fabbionewhy not?07:27
dilinger'cause i'm happy if i can get the things to boot; clustering seems like an extravagancy07:28
fabbionewell but testing doesn't mean production :)07:28
fabbionebtw.. did you finally got your appartment?07:29
fabbioneso that we can turn one of your sparcs into a buildd?07:29
dilingeryep07:29
fabbionecool :)07:29
dilingeri moved in last weekend07:29
dilingerstill making it habitable07:29
fabbionecongratulation :)07:29
fabbioneyeah i can imagine07:29
dilingerthanks :)07:29
dilingerthe 280's sitting on the floor, i need to get all my machines up and running still07:30
fabbioneno rush07:30
dilingeri'm not sure what i'm going to do about the internet connection07:30
fabbionewhy?07:30
dilingeri tried contacting roadrunner, but they haven't gotten back to me07:30
dilingerin the meantime, someone in the building has an open AP that i've been using07:30
fabbioneare you still without net at home?07:30
fabbioneahhh07:30
fabbioneehehhe07:30
dilingeri'll try to get it online sometime this week, though07:32
fabbionewell without bw it might be an issue07:32
dilingermaybe i should see if i can host it at work07:33
dilingeralthough getting it there will be.. interesting07:33
fabbioneand i should probably move wanna-build to a public host07:33
fabbionedilinger: for the size? :)07:34
dilingerthey're also firewalled like crazy; does anything need to connect to the buildd, or does the buildd do all the connecting out07:34
dilinger?07:34
dilingeryea, the size and weight.  i certainly couldn't move it myself07:34
fabbionebuildd connects to outside07:34
fabbionenothing connect to buildd07:34
dilingercarrying from my car to my room, when i first got it, nearly killed me07:34
fabbioneehe i can imagine07:35
fabbionebuildd needs ssh access to wanna-build07:36
fabbioneand clearly access to a public sparc archive07:36
dilingerok07:36
fabbionelike http://ports.07:36
dilingerso it ould be fine to host it at work07:36
fabbionei guess there is no way to ssh in, is it?07:37
dilingeri'd have to set up a tunnel07:37
dilingerwhich wouldn't be permanent07:37
fabbionehmmmm07:38
dilingerof course, if you can find me hosting in nyc somewhere, i can put it there instead..07:38
fabbioneit was more to be able to do admin tasks, like updating chroot, unfucking chroots07:39
fabbioneyeah but i know shit about hosting in NYC07:39
fabbioneit's like 4000 Miles from here if not more :)07:39
dilingerheh07:41
fabbionebuilding iseries kernel is a royal pain in the butt :)07:42
dilingerhm, my laundry's probably done..07:42
fabbionei need to wake up my wife and listen to her for the next hour...07:43
fabbionegiven that we have been having a fight all night07:44
fabbionei would rather do your laundry :)07:44
fabbionettyl07:44
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lamontfabbione: no, I simply failed to actually do the commit. :-(01:40
mjg59fabbione: Would it be possible to set CONFIG_ACPI_DEBUG to y for a while?02:43
fabbionelamont: ah ok :)02:50
fabbionemjg59: there will be 2 -dbg images with the next upload02:50
fabbione686-dbg and 386-dbg with all the DEBUG=y02:50
fabbionei guess that includes ACPI too02:50
mjg59fabbione: Oh, rock02:51
mjg59fabbione: Did you get my mail?02:52
fabbionemjg59: for the libata suspend/resume patch is not really go.. we will drah 2.6.12 into main and as default kernel within the next 2 weeks :/02:52
mjg59fabbione: This code needs testing. It's not going to get tested unless we put it somewhere02:52
mjg59And it's vital for ACPI on new laptops02:52
fabbionemjg59: i need to be at least sure it's not going to eat people disks02:52
mjg59It /looks/ fine02:53
Mithrandirmake it twiddlable by a boot parameter?02:53
mjg59The only time this code patch is followed is during suspend or resume02:53
mjg59Uh, path02:53
mjg59It won't affect any other use02:53
fabbioneah it's from Jeff02:53
fabbionei will ask him02:54
fabbionehmm he is not online02:58
Mithrandirfabbione: ok, I have an oops now.  What do you want me to do with it?02:58
fabbioneMithrandir: stick it somewhere i can look at it?02:58
fabbioneor the best option would be to print it in 4 layers toilet paper for firther usage :)02:59
Mithrandirfabbione: I mildly hate you then, since it means I have to copy half a screenfull off by hand.  Or do you do digicam shots? :)02:59
fabbionelamont: can you commit asap? i might upload the kernel either today or tomorrow my morning (your late evening)02:59
mjg59fabbione: http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/5/23/116 is the disclaimer02:59
fabbioneMithrandir: it needs to be the full OOPS02:59
mjg59But various people are using it without complaint so far02:59
Mithrandirfabbione: sure, but is a picture of it ok or do you really want the text?03:00
fabbionedigikam is ok if fully readable03:00
Mithrandirok, fine.03:00
fabbionefuck ppc and its random process killer03:01
fabbioneit should have finished the ppc64 build while i was asleep03:01
fabbionemjg59: Patch 2/2 for review by the linux-scsi crowd.03:09
fabbionewhere is 1/2 ?03:09
fabbionenver mind03:10
fabbione509700  build-power4-smp03:11
fabbione561520  build-powerpc64-smp03:11
fabbioneYEAH03:11
fabbioneelmo and the mirrors will love me :)03:11
mjg59fabbione: 1/2 is unrelated03:13
fabbioneyup03:13
Mithrandirfabbione: http://err.no/tmp/DSC00879.JPG 03:18
fabbioneMithrandir: ok...03:20
Mithrandirit's probably the biggest backtrace you've seen, at 2.7MB. :P03:21
fabbioneahhaha03:21
fabbioneMithrandir: is that card usb or pci?03:26
Mithrandirpci03:26
fabbioneok03:26
fabbione* acx_ether_to_txdesc03:28
fabbione*03:28
fabbione* Uses the contents of the ether frame to build the elements of 03:28
fabbione* the 802.11 frame.03:28
fabbione*03:28
fabbione* We don't actually set up the frame header here.  That's the 03:28
fabbione* MAC's job.  We're only handling conversion of DIXII or 802.3+LLC 03:28
fabbione* frames to something that works with 802.11.03:28
fabbioneMithrandir: given that the driver is compiled with DEBUG03:30
fabbionecan you show me the logs from kern.log or syslog?03:30
fabbionethey should be there somewhere03:30
Mithrandirfabbione: the box is hung when that oops happens.03:30
fabbioneMithrandir: yes, but the logs should be written before that :)03:31
Mithrandirthey aren't.  Or wasn't last time.03:31
fabbioneWTF!!!!103:32
fabbioneI HATE EXTERNAL DRIVERS03:32
Mithrandiror, which part of the logs?03:32
fabbioneTHEY SHOULD DIE OF SLOW PAINFUL DEATH03:32
fabbione                acxlog(L_DEBUG, "tx: 802.3 len: %d\n", skb->len);03:32
fabbionethere should be entries like that around03:32
fabbione                acxlog(L_DEBUG, "tx: DIXII len: %d\n", skb->len);03:33
Mithrandirno tx: from today.03:33
fabbionedo you actually get any data out of the device before the crash?03:34
fabbionedata like IP connections03:34
Mithrandirsure, I can ping my router, for instance.03:35
Mithrandirssh-ing made it die.03:36
fabbioneMithrandir: was that piece of code working in 2.6.10?03:37
fabbione(can't remember if you told me)03:37
Mithrandirfabbione: 2.6.10 works just fine on the box, yes.03:37
fabbioneok03:37
Mithrandirthe driver is in the kernel and I haven't reviewed any changes.03:37
fabbioneyeah the acx100 is anyway an external one03:38
fabbioneUHAAAA03:40
fabbionethe code has been changed hell of a lot03:41
fabbione-               e_snap = (wlan_snap_t*)((UINT8*)e_llc + sizeof(wlan_llc_t));03:41
fabbione+               e_snap = (wlan_snap_t*)((u8*)e_llc + sizeof(wlan_llc_t));03:41
fabbionestuff like this might make it amd64 unfriendly :)03:41
fabbioneMithrandir: do you have any option to test it on i386?03:41
MithrandirI can install i386 on the box and try, sure.03:42
Mithrandirit'll take me an hour or so, though.03:42
Mithrandirbut, food now03:42
fabbionesure no rush03:43
fabbionebut if it works on i386.. well there is only one solution03:43
fabbionebomb upstream :)03:43
zulblah03:47
fabbionehey zul03:52
fabbionedpkg-deb: building package `linux-image-2.6.12-1-powerpc64-smp' in `../linux-image-2.6.12-1-powerpc64-smp_2.6.11.93-1.2_powerpc.deb'.04:03
fabbionedpkg-deb: building package `linux-image-2.6.12-1-iseries-smp' in `../linux-image-2.6.12-1-iseries-smp_2.6.11.93-1.2_powerpc.deb'.04:05
fabbionethere we go04:05
fabbione /usr/share/kernel-wedge/commands/copy-modules: line 13: 14622 Segmentation fault      mv $tmpdir/work.new $tmpdir/work04:07
fabbioneYEAHH!!!!!!04:07
fabbioneGO KERNEL-WEDGE IT'S YOUR BDAY!04:07
fabbionei am afraid kernel wedge needs some ppc64 love too04:08
Micksaman04:09
MicksaI wanna hack kernels all day04:09
MicksaI can do that04:09
Micksayou don't believe me huh :)04:10
fabbioneMicksa: there are tons of bugs that need love :)04:21
fabbionewelcome to provide patches to fix them04:21
Micksathere are always bugs04:21
Micksait's mostly a time issue04:22
Micksawell, uh, also04:22
Micksado you work for canonical?04:22
fabbioneyes04:28
zulfabbione: i wont be around much tomorrow since i have an interview04:35
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Micksacrap04:36
Micksalemme try that again04:37
Micksafabbione: do you work for canonical?04:37
fabbioneMicksa: yes04:38
fabbionezul: no problem.. i am fighting with ppc6404:38
zulthat must be fun04:38
Micksasee, you're getting paid to do this stuff :)04:38
MicksaI could SO do that04:38
Micksabut man I'm crap at making good use of spare time04:38
MicksaI mean, shit, I spent all day yesterday trying to get my laptop working 8)04:39
zuloh and linux-non-supported-modules is coming along nicely04:39
fabbionezul: it was fun until i hitted the random PPC segfaults04:39
zulhe04:39
zulhehe04:39
fabbionezul: ah nice04:39
fabbionei guess i am going to try to hack on 64 images only04:39
fabbionebuilding 8 images takes too long04:39
zulit does...usually yes :)04:40
fabbioneMicksa: well up to you to get known.. a good point to start is MOTU :)04:40
zul*sigh* i have to wear a tie tomorrow04:40
fabbioneamen04:40
fabbionei hate ties04:40
MicksaMOTU?04:40
fabbioneMicksa: #ubuntu-motu04:41
fabbioneMaster Of The Universe04:41
fabbioneit's a good point to start04:41
Micksammmkay04:42
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zuldo we have a list of which external-drivers run on which arch04:44
zulyet04:44
fabbionezul: no, you will need to grab the images from archive and ports04:48
fabbioneand check them there04:48
zulthats what i thought04:48
fabbionei have the feeling that ppc buildd will never make a kernel build04:53
fabbioneppc has this nice issue of doing random segfaults04:54
fabbioneit did it 4 times in one build04:54
zulmeh...drop ppc :)04:54
fabbionehehehe04:54
fabbionewith Apple switching to intel, it might be an option :)04:55
Mithrandirfabbione: I'll believe that when I see it.04:56
fabbioneMithrandir: well it was on /. yesterday04:56
Mithrandirfabbione: "IT WAS ON SLASHDOT. OH GOD IT MUST BE TEH TRUE!"04:56
Mithrandir:-)04:57
fabbioneahhaha04:57
fabbioneAH SHIT..ok i am too tired04:57
fabbionetime to stop for today04:57
fabbionethe OCFS2 update is FTBFS04:57
fabbioneand of course i can't build ppc64 anymore04:57
zulwhat slashdot always reports the truth?04:57
fabbionethat makes all my d-i changes pointless04:57
fabbionefs/configfs/inode.c:51: error: unknown field `memory_backed' specified in initializer04:58
fabbioneBAH04:58
=== Mithrandir installs i386 breezy kernels
fabbionebah fixed05:11
Mithrandirfabbione: well, if I switch to i386, it doesn't associate at all, even. :P05:23
fabbioneMithrandir: fun :) bug upstream :)05:24
fabbioneor check if there is a newer version05:24
Mithrandirfabbione: it's the stock kernel driver.05:24
Mithrandir2.6.12 doesn't have lrm05:25
Mithrandir:P05:25
zulum...is the hotplug stuff the same from the old version and the new version of acx10005:26
=== Mithrandir tries to parse zul's sentence a few times an fails.
Mithrandirs/an/and/05:27
zulbah...the acx100 driver we are using is from a different source has the *.bin files in the hotplug directory the same as the 2.6.10 version?05:28
zulhttp://www.tsn.ca/columnists/bob_mckenzie.asp05:29
zuloops....wrong one05:29
zulhttp://rhlx01.fht-esslingen.de/~andi/acx10005:29
MithrandirI had to symlink in the firmware from 2.6.10 since the kernel didn't find it otherwise.05:30
zulwierd05:30
fabbionehmmmmmmmmmmm05:31
fabbioneHMMMMMMM05:31
fabbionei think the acx100 firmwares are in l-r-m05:31
fabbionethey probably need to be updated05:31
zulyes they are05:31
fabbionethe acx100 hotplug code from 2.6.10 to 2.6.12 is different05:31
zulbbl need to eat05:32
fabbionebah ocfs2 update is fucked05:33
=== fabbione reverts
Mithrandirhm, ok.  05:33
Mithrandirexcept there's no newer firmware upstream?05:35
Mithrandirhm, I'll see if compiling the newest and shiniest external driver works.05:39
fabbioneis there a new version?05:41
fabbioneacx100             | 0.2.0pre8+fixes52          | ok     | 18/04/2005   | http://acx100.sourceforge.net/ http://rhlx01.fht-esslingen.de/~andi/acx100/05:42
fabbionethis is the one in the kernel right now05:42
fabbioneanyway i need to go and cook dinner05:42
fabbioneppc64 is pissing me off too much05:42
Mithrandiryes, there's a newer upstream05:43
Mithrandirfixes5605:44
fabbioneMithrandir: ok.. test that one and let us know :)05:44
fabbionewe will update the driver anyway, but if it fixes the problem i will find the time to include it in the next release05:44
fabbionei am off :)05:44
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lamont* committed kernel-team@ubuntu.com--2005/kernel-debian--pre1,2--2.6.11.93--patch-2509:29
lamontthat was either last night or first thing this morning...09:29
lamontalmost 8 hours ago09:29
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