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zul | java is fun | 03:10 |
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crimsun | both fun and brain-stabbing heartache | 03:13 |
zul | i have an interview tomorrow so i guess i should go over some stuff | 03:15 |
crimsun | good luck! | 03:15 |
zul | thanks | 03:15 |
crimsun | technical interview, I presume? | 03:15 |
zul | i suppose it is...junior/intermediate tech support for a mobile company | 03:16 |
crimsun | oh, good | 03:16 |
zul | better than not working :) | 03:17 |
crimsun | indeed :) | 03:17 |
zul | wha...transmeta going out of business? | 03:18 |
crimsun | :/ | 03:18 |
zul | stupid slashdot.. | 03:18 |
fabbione | morning | 06:07 |
fabbione | mjg59: <jgarzik> fabbione: that suspend patch isn't right for SCSI | 08:36 |
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fabbione | hey JaneW | 08:50 |
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fabbione | hey JaneW (2nd attempt) | 09:17 |
fabbione | infinity http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/mbligh/abat/regression_matrix.html | 09:22 |
JaneW | hi fabbione (2nd attempt) | 09:23 |
fabbione | JaneW: we need a name today :) | 09:25 |
JaneW | fabbione: Bashful Brazil | 09:30 |
fabbione | JaneW: is that a nuts? :) | 09:30 |
JaneW | Fabbione: Brazil nut yes it's a big one ;P | 09:33 |
JaneW | http://www.rain-tree.com/brazilnu.htm | 09:35 |
fabbione | great :) | 09:47 |
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mjg59 | fabbione: Hmm. Bah. | 09:55 |
mjg59 | fabbione: To the extent that it breaks existing scsi, or that it just doesn't work on scsi? | 09:55 |
fabbione | it breaks | 09:55 |
mjg59 | Ok | 09:55 |
fabbione | and he doesn't have another patch yet | 09:55 |
mjg59 | Ok | 09:56 |
mjg59 | Well, we'll just have to hope he gets a move on :) | 09:56 |
fabbione | well.. yeah | 09:56 |
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jbailey | fabbione: Is that in now? | 11:12 |
fabbione | jbailey: just uploaded.. | 11:12 |
fabbione | but i have binaries handy | 11:12 |
jbailey | I don't need to rush it yet. | 11:12 |
fabbione | i can spare you to wait 10 hours to build :) | 11:12 |
jbailey | Handy. =) Please. | 11:12 |
jbailey | ... | 11:12 |
jbailey | 10 *hours*? | 11:12 |
fabbione | people.u.c/~fabbione/ | 11:13 |
fabbione | jbailey: building 8 flavours take ages | 11:13 |
fabbione | + we have build problems | 11:13 |
fabbione | so it might take way more than 10 hours | 11:13 |
fabbione | jbailey: note that i don't even know if that kernel will boot | 11:14 |
fabbione | so keep the proper precautions | 11:14 |
fabbione | s/keep/take | 11:14 |
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jbailey | Hey the damned thing unpacks at least, better than svenl's image did. | 11:16 |
jbailey | (I still haven't hunted down why. I get dpkg errors with his .deb) | 11:16 |
fabbione | hahah ok :) | 11:17 |
jbailey | Look like no joy so far. | 11:18 |
chmj | morning | 11:18 |
jbailey | Lemme try it again without 'quiet' | 11:18 |
jbailey | Heya Charles | 11:18 |
fabbione | hey chmj | 11:19 |
fabbione | jbailey: is your machine lpar? (or something like that) | 11:19 |
jbailey | dict lpar? | 11:19 |
chmj | fabbione: I think someone has to specificly maintain external drivers | 11:19 |
fabbione | jbailey: dunno... i found a "typo fix" for ppc64 lpar boot | 11:19 |
fabbione | jbailey: but i didn't include it | 11:19 |
fabbione | chmj: inside or outside the kernel? | 11:20 |
fabbione | jbailey: since it will be part of rc6 | 11:20 |
chmj | fabbione: I don't know about that | 11:20 |
jbailey | Oh? Is he actually doing another rc release? | 11:21 |
chmj | fabbione: some off these drivers are already patches from upstream | 11:21 |
fabbione | chmj: what external drivers you are talking about... inside our kernel or outside? | 11:21 |
fabbione | jbailey: yes.. rc6 and release according to the schedule | 11:21 |
jbailey | Looks like it means logical partitions | 11:21 |
chmj | fabbione: the ones in external-modules | 11:21 |
fabbione | jbailey: probably | 11:21 |
fabbione | chmj: i am not sure understand 100% what you mean... why somebody should maintain them specifically? | 11:22 |
chmj | fabbione: some off them come as patches | 11:22 |
fabbione | chmj: yes | 11:22 |
fabbione | and? | 11:22 |
chmj | patches have no version numbers | 11:23 |
fabbione | chmj: yes they do :) | 11:23 |
fabbione | chmj: some of them in the code, others in the name | 11:23 |
chmj | hmm | 11:23 |
chmj | fabbione: in the code, makes it hard for them to be automatically watched | 11:24 |
jbailey | Oh, I see. http://www.technonics.com/ppc970.htm - basically lpar is where you do vmwarish things in-chip. I doubt this beast does that, it's a "consumer" g5 mac. | 11:24 |
fabbione | chmj: i never said it was going to be an easy task | 11:24 |
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chmj | fabbione: wich is why I'm saying that someone will need to manually check that | 11:26 |
chmj | s/wich/which/g | 11:26 |
fabbione | chmj: well if it's only 2/3 drivers is ok | 11:26 |
fabbione | just spits out a warning to check them | 11:26 |
fabbione | so that people will remember | 11:26 |
jbailey | Nope, still no joy - almost like the framebuffer isn't loaded. | 11:26 |
chmj | ok | 11:26 |
fabbione | jbailey: FB doesn't build :/ | 11:27 |
jbailey | I get the Setup Done message, Starting Linux PPC64 2.6.12-1-powerpc64-smp blah blah down to smp_core99_probe smp_core99_kick_cpu smp_Core99_kick_cpu done smp_core99_setup_cpu 0 done | 11:27 |
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jbailey | Right, lemme try ssh then. =) | 11:27 |
fabbione | powerpc64-smp:CONFIG_FB=m | 11:28 |
fabbione | no | 11:28 |
fabbione | actually it is built | 11:28 |
fabbione | ahhh i see | 11:28 |
fabbione | it needs to be inline | 11:28 |
fabbione | crap | 11:28 |
jbailey | inline? | 11:29 |
fabbione | CONFIG_FB=y | 11:29 |
fabbione | instead of modular | 11:29 |
jbailey | Right, but in the meantime I can modprobe it in the initrd | 11:29 |
fabbione | yup | 11:29 |
jbailey | It's not getting as far as getting ssh going, so there's some other issue, too. | 11:29 |
fabbione | jbailey: probably there is more that needs modprobing | 11:31 |
fabbione | if you can start adding fb stuff and see where it stops, that would be great | 11:31 |
fabbione | i am pretty sure it's just question of config options | 11:31 |
fabbione | but not having the frigging hw locally doesn't make it easier | 11:32 |
jbailey | Iz no problem, boss. | 11:32 |
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fabbione | jbailey: thanks! | 11:32 |
fabbione | jbailey: i suggest you to copy also the other FB modules | 11:34 |
jbailey | Other than just radeonfb? | 11:35 |
fabbione | there is a +CONFIG_FB_MACMODES=m | 11:36 |
fabbione | i did it all modular, but problably it needs to go all inline | 11:36 |
jbailey | Trying it with all those drivers in the initrd. | 11:41 |
jbailey | No joy. | 11:42 |
fabbione | crap | 11:43 |
fabbione | are you actually modprobing them manually? | 11:44 |
fabbione | or just hoping that they will get modprobed? | 11:44 |
jbailey | No, putting them in the initrd which is set to modprobe them. | 11:44 |
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jbailey | I don't have enough connection to the machine at that point to modprobe anything. | 11:44 |
jbailey | I don't think this box has a serial port. | 11:45 |
fabbione | hmmmm | 11:45 |
jbailey | On what speed box does it take 10 hours to build? | 11:45 |
fabbione | jbailey: on davis | 11:46 |
fabbione | but i can rebuild ppc64 only in not too long | 11:46 |
fabbione | 10 hours is the whole package | 11:46 |
fabbione | i am changing the config right now :) | 11:46 |
fabbione | powerpc64-smp:CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE=m | 11:51 |
fabbione | powerpc-smp:CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE=y | 11:51 |
fabbione | yeah there is more :) | 11:51 |
fabbione | ok it's building now | 12:00 |
fabbione | it shouldn't take too long | 12:01 |
jbailey | Cool, thanks. | 12:01 |
fabbione | modulo gcc segfaults | 12:01 |
fabbione | this will make the FB situtation similar to all the other ppc configs | 12:02 |
fabbione | there might be more to change but at least you should be able to get the console | 12:02 |
fabbione | i am going to get some lunch while it builds | 12:03 |
fabbione | brb | 12:03 |
fabbione | never mind.. it already failed on some drivers | 12:04 |
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jbailey | Cool - if I can see what's failing after this point, that would be lovely. ;) | 12:12 |
fabbione | jbailey: i was thinking that perhaps mkinitrd will need ppc64 love too.... | 12:22 |
fabbione | what about glibc?= | 12:22 |
fabbione | would a 64bit kernel search for 64 bit libc6? | 12:22 |
jbailey | It shouldn't, no. | 12:23 |
fabbione | jbailey: the image is up | 12:24 |
jbailey | The first thing it does is fire up /linuxrc, which uses the shell script interpreter in the kernel to seek to /bin/sh, which is 32bit. | 12:24 |
jbailey | Same filename as before? | 12:24 |
fabbione | note that is the next version :) | 12:24 |
fabbione | nope... | 12:24 |
fabbione | 1.3 | 12:24 |
fabbione | instead of 1.2 | 12:24 |
jbailey | Thanks. =) | 12:24 |
fabbione | no problem | 12:25 |
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fabbione | jbailey: new 1.3 image on people | 12:50 |
fabbione | jbailey: tell me something while you are working on it.. your silence is killing me :) | 12:55 |
jbailey | Lol, it's just installing. | 12:55 |
jbailey | My connection to the data centre is crap. | 12:56 |
fabbione | hehe ok | 12:56 |
jbailey | booting. | 12:56 |
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jbailey | I still get a black screen | 12:57 |
jbailey | Let's give it a sec and see if I can ssh in, though. | 12:57 |
fabbione | crap | 12:57 |
jbailey | hey | 12:57 |
jbailey | X apparently works, even if the framebuffer doesn't. =) | 12:58 |
jbailey | And I can ssh in now. =) | 12:58 |
jbailey | I see that it's loading the radeonfb | 12:58 |
fabbione | AHHHHHAHAHHAHAHAHA | 12:58 |
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jbailey | *lol* | 12:59 |
fabbione | now... | 12:59 |
fabbione | we need to understand why the FB sucks | 12:59 |
fabbione | well... | 12:59 |
fabbione | there is not much to understand.. it does :) | 12:59 |
fabbione | jbailey: can stick dmesg output somewhere? | 01:00 |
jbailey | $ file a.out | 01:00 |
jbailey | a.out: ELF 64-bit MSB executable, cisco 7500, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped | 01:00 |
jbailey | jbailey@ppc64:/tmp$ ./a.out | 01:00 |
jbailey | Hello, world! | 01:00 |
fabbione | eheheh | 01:00 |
jbailey | sure, need a couple minutes to wake Angie up. | 01:01 |
fabbione | no problem | 01:01 |
jbailey | And the fans appear to have gone nuts. =) | 01:01 |
fabbione | i am not sure APM or PM is available yet | 01:02 |
fabbione | i didn't have any option to enable it | 01:02 |
jbailey | This thing displaces an amazing amount of air. | 01:04 |
jbailey | Also sounds a bit like a jet engine. =) | 01:04 |
fabbione | ehhe | 01:04 |
jbailey | http://people.ubuntu.com/~jbailey/dmesg.txt | 01:04 |
fabbione | [ 32.536434] Console: colour dummy device 80x25 | 01:05 |
jbailey | Want one from the working setup too? | 01:05 |
fabbione | isn't this one from the working ppc64 kernel? | 01:05 |
jbailey | I mean from the working ppc32 | 01:06 |
fabbione | [ 32.614271] Calibrating delay loop... 66.56 BogoMIPS (lpj=33280) | 01:06 |
fabbione | interesting | 01:06 |
fabbione | yes.. later is fine... | 01:06 |
jbailey | I may as well fetch it now to make the 747 go away... | 01:06 |
fabbione | how much RAM do you have in that system????? | 01:06 |
jbailey | Umm, Looks like 4gb? | 01:07 |
fabbione | [ 32.763094] PowerMac SMP probe found 2 cpus | 01:07 |
fabbione | uhuuh | 01:07 |
fabbione | it's even SMP :) | 01:07 |
jbailey | Yes | 01:07 |
fabbione | jbailey: [ 32.614139] Memory: 3999720k/6291456k | 01:07 |
fabbione | it's more like 6GB | 01:07 |
jbailey | $ cat /proc/meminfo | 01:07 |
jbailey | MemTotal: 4007812 kB | 01:07 |
fabbione | but our kernels don't have more than GB highmem enabled | 01:07 |
jbailey | Ah. | 01:08 |
fabbione | yeah what's in meminfo comes from what the kernel can actually use :) | 01:08 |
fabbione | we need to talk with benh about the FB stuff | 01:09 |
fabbione | he hangs on debian-kernel | 01:09 |
fabbione | he is not around | 01:11 |
jbailey | On ppc32: [ 25.954678] Console: colour dummy device 80x25 | 01:13 |
jbailey | [ 26.045504] Calibrating delay loop... 1662.97 BogoMIPS (lpj=831488) | 01:13 |
jbailey | On the ppc32 there's an extra: | 01:15 |
jbailey | [ 27.434522] Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 210x65 | 01:15 |
jbailey | in there. | 01:15 |
fabbione | hmmm | 01:16 |
zul | he3y | 01:24 |
jbailey | zul: Know anything about framebuffers? =) | 01:25 |
zul | no :) | 01:25 |
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jbailey | Hmm, there's an fbset package. | 01:29 |
fabbione | jbailey: that's not what i am looking for | 01:29 |
jbailey | But I guess the problem might be making the console point to it? | 01:29 |
fabbione | i can't find that exact string | 01:29 |
fabbione | so it's generated at runtime | 01:29 |
fabbione | that means that we need to find what driver spits it | 01:30 |
chmj | jbailey: issint fbset a fluxbox util | 01:30 |
fabbione | and see why in 32 bit works and not in 64 | 01:30 |
jbailey | chmj: No idea. =) | 01:30 |
chmj | jbailey: bah, framebuffer device maintanance program | 01:31 |
fabbione | ah here is | 01:35 |
jbailey | ben's on. | 01:35 |
chmj | fabbione: can I give you the watch proggie ? | 01:39 |
fabbione | chmj: i am waiting for it... | 01:39 |
zul | damn ties | 01:39 |
chmj | fabbione: email ? | 01:41 |
fabbione | chmj: or commit it in baz? | 01:41 |
chmj | ok | 01:42 |
fabbione | chmj: you have access to people, don't you? | 01:42 |
chmj | yes | 01:42 |
fabbione | so just use sftp instead of http to checkout/commit | 01:42 |
fabbione | put it inside the debian/ dir | 01:42 |
chmj | must I do that from chainstrap ? | 01:47 |
fabbione | nope | 01:47 |
fabbione | ssh to people is allowed from outise via ssh proxy | 01:47 |
chmj | ssh proxy ? | 01:48 |
fabbione | chmj: check the wiki | 01:48 |
fabbione | there is the doc on how to set that up | 01:48 |
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fabbione | bbl | 01:59 |
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chmj | there goes my first kerne-team commit :) | 03:01 |
fabbione | ./uscan-extmod --report . | 03:04 |
fabbione | Processing ./kernel-extmod.kwatch ...... | 03:04 |
fabbione | uscan-extmod warning: could not open ./kernel-extmod.kwatch: No such file or directory | 03:04 |
fabbione | A passed.kwatch | 03:05 |
fabbione | what's that? | 03:05 |
chmj | usca-extmod --wathifile = passed.kwatch | 03:05 |
chmj | uscan-extmod --wathifile passed.kwatch | 03:05 |
chmj | the wathfile by default will be kernel-extmod.kwatch, one I got it looking pretty | 03:06 |
chmj | s/one/once/ | 03:06 |
fabbione | ehhe nice :) | 03:06 |
chmj | the script, or my typing ? | 03:07 |
fabbione | the script :) | 03:08 |
chmj | :) | 03:08 |
fabbione | chmj: did already convert all the entries in external-drivers to the watch file? | 03:08 |
fabbione | or only a few for sampling? | 03:09 |
chmj | a lot | 03:09 |
fabbione | all of them or only a selection? | 03:09 |
fabbione | before we spend time updating that file to death... | 03:09 |
chmj | only a section, | 03:09 |
fabbione | ok | 03:09 |
chmj | I'm trying to get the rest off the URLs | 03:09 |
fabbione | chmj: ok. you tell me when it's ready for "deplyoment", but it looks good already :) | 03:10 |
chmj | did I mention I hate "You don't have permission to access <insert driver location folder here> on this server." | 03:11 |
fabbione | ehehhe | 03:11 |
jbailey | So who thinks that Apple using "intel chips" might mean itanium? =) | 03:13 |
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zul | ok wish me luck | 03:13 |
jbailey | zul: Good luck, chuck! | 03:13 |
fabbione | zul: come back as winner! | 03:16 |
jbailey | fabbione: fbcon working right. | 03:16 |
fabbione | jbailey: cool | 03:16 |
jbailey | fans haven't gone nuts. | 03:17 |
jbailey | x is up | 03:17 |
fabbione | jbailey: and yes.. i am sure apple will go ia64 :) | 03:17 |
chmj | zul: what u need luck for ? | 03:17 |
fabbione | goody | 03:17 |
jbailey | ssh in. | 03:17 |
jbailey | "... and print!" | 03:17 |
fabbione | chmj: you broke the baz archive! | 03:23 |
fabbione | you need to fix your umask on people | 03:23 |
fabbione | and change some permissions in the baz repo | 03:23 |
fabbione | otherwise we are all doomed | 03:23 |
fabbione | chmj: login to people and do what i say | 03:24 |
fabbione | cd /home/lamont/public_html/Archives/kernel-team@ubuntu.com--2005/kernel-debian--pre1,3--2.6.11.93 | 03:24 |
fabbione | chmod 775 patch-4 | 03:24 |
fabbione | cd patch-4 | 03:25 |
fabbione | chmod 775 ++revision-lock | 03:25 |
fabbione | cd ++revision-lock | 03:25 |
fabbione | chmod 775 +contents | 03:25 |
jbailey | Not find a chmod -R g+w | 03:26 |
jbailey | s/find/just/ | 03:26 |
fabbione | jbailey: it's the same.... | 03:26 |
jbailey | ? | 03:26 |
fabbione | chmj: once you have done go back to your home and: | 03:27 |
fabbione | edit .bash_profile | 03:28 |
fabbione | change the umask to look like: | 03:28 |
fabbione | umask 002 | 03:28 |
fabbione | then edit .bashrc and add the same umask line | 03:28 |
fabbione | logout | 03:29 |
fabbione | and login again | 03:29 |
fabbione | that will fix | 03:29 |
chmj | done | 03:30 |
fabbione | chmj: you need to change the permissions to all the dirs i told you | 03:30 |
chmj | I did | 03:30 |
fabbione | nope | 03:30 |
fabbione | /home/lamont/public_html/Archives/kernel-team@ubuntu.com--2005/kernel-debian--pre1,3--2.6.11.93/ | 03:31 |
fabbione | 4 drwxr-xr-x 3 charles warthogs 4096 Jun 6 13:57 patch-4 | 03:31 |
fabbione | that needs to be 775 | 03:31 |
fabbione | same for the directories inside | 03:31 |
chmj | recursively ? | 03:32 |
fabbione | chmj: you are missing the ++revision-lock directory inside patch-4/ | 03:33 |
fabbione | the others are or seem to be ok | 03:33 |
chmj | ok, done | 03:36 |
fabbione | ok thanks | 03:36 |
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fabbione | yup | 03:37 |
fabbione | did also change your netmask? | 03:37 |
fabbione | anyway i need to go offline again | 03:37 |
fabbione | bbl | 03:37 |
jbailey | fabbione: s/netmask/umask/ ? | 03:39 |
chmj | erm,bashrc and bash_profile, done | 03:40 |
fabbione | yeah that :) | 03:51 |
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jbailey | O | 04:37 |
jbailey | I'm trying to imagine what the ugliest scenario the initramfs might have to cope with for booting, and whether I care. | 04:37 |
jbailey | I'm adding the hooks in, but obviously somethings might care what order they're run in, like lvm before md, and cryptroot after both. | 04:38 |
mjg59 | Any idea when the -1.2 builds are likely to be done on x86? | 04:49 |
jbailey | None. And Fabio may have sent up -1.3 with the ppc64 changes from this morning. | 04:49 |
mjg59 | Ah | 04:50 |
mjg59 | Fair enough | 04:50 |
fabbione | no i didn't push 1.3 to archive. | 05:52 |
fabbione | 1.2 needs NEW love | 05:52 |
fabbione | and i386 is FTBFS | 05:52 |
mjg59 | Ah, ok | 05:53 |
fabbione | hell it did build here! | 05:53 |
fabbione | Inconsistent kallsyms data | 05:53 |
fabbione | Try setting CONFIG_KALLSYMS_EXTRA_PASS | 05:53 |
fabbione | BAH | 05:53 |
fabbione | make[2] : Leaving directory `/build/buildd/linux-source-2.6.12-2.6.11.93/debian/b | 05:53 |
fabbione | uild/build-686-dbg' | 05:53 |
fabbione | well this is tomorrow's stuff | 05:54 |
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lamont_r | fabbione: linux-source-2.6.12 won't build on hppa until expect-tcl8.3 arrives in the archive and gcc-3.4 is buildable | 09:00 |
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doko | lamont: expect-tcl8.3 was made only for you^H^H^Hhppa ;) | 09:03 |
lamont_r | doko: yeah | 09:04 |
lamont_r | but it's not in the ubuntu archive. hence gcc-3.4 is pending... | 09:05 |
doko | so build it, don't grumble ;-) | 09:05 |
lamont_r | another option would be to disable the tests on hppa... :) | 09:05 |
doko | it's not? | 09:05 |
lamont_r | ah, is in universe | 09:05 |
lamont_r | coolness | 09:05 |
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zul | well round one done | 10:02 |
zul | miss a day...miss alot | 10:11 |
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