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Chisloncan soemoen here help me with my kde wallet?12:02
_Church_of_FoamYdamn i got it12:05
_Church_of_FoamYtook a little bit but i got it ^_^12:05
Chislongot what12:06
nmorsegot Ubuntu on a Mac?12:06
matsno problem.. i have ubuntu on a mac ;D12:07
_Church_of_FoamYno not yet12:07
_Church_of_FoamYstill working on it 12:07
nmorseMy iMac G3 won't boot Ubuntu12:07
nmorseIt goes through the whole install, and then when it reboots it hangs on Loading Kernel12:08
_Church_of_FoamYbrb12:09
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nmorsebe back in about 1 1/2 hours12:15
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_lukekubuntu died12:16
_lukeit killed itself12:16
_Church_of_FoamYit jumped off the edge lol12:16
_lukeit sure did12:16
_lukeso I'm using yoper now12:17
_Church_of_FoamYdamn12:17
_lukekubuntu was awesome. but I don't like suicidalness12:17
KaiLkilled? how?12:17
_lukeit did an fscheck and died12:18
KaiLreiserfs? ;)12:18
_lukewiped some inodes12:18
_lukeext312:18
KaiLthen you should worry about your HD12:18
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_lukewell the whole thing was working fine before it did fsck. was working perfectly12:19
_lukeso I'm seeing what my home can put out :)12:20
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_lukebrb12:20
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_lukeaahh sweet xchat12:21
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_Church_of_FoamYhow to record with stream tuner?12:22
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_Church_of_FoamYanyone?12:24
Chisloni have no idea12:25
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othernoobhey church, have you ever found out how to enable file sending in kopete or gaim or whatever?12:25
_Church_of_FoamYstill working on it12:25
_Church_of_FoamYi think it has something to do with my router12:25
othernoobwhy?12:25
_Church_of_FoamYit's a cheap retarded router12:25
_Church_of_FoamYit's the only thing i can think of also12:26
_Church_of_FoamYi can't think why i woulden't be able to send or receve files otherwize12:26
othernoobwell, neither can i, and i dont have a router12:27
_Church_of_FoamYweard12:27
_Church_of_FoamYi wonder what would cause it?12:27
_lukeit shouldn't have anything to do with the router, unless the router has a firewall12:27
othernoobi have no idea, i was hoping you'd found out12:28
_lukebut it's still unlikely12:28
_Church_of_FoamYaccept12:28
_Church_of_FoamYthan any ideas why we cant send/recv files than?12:28
_Church_of_FoamYall it has is nat12:28
_lukeI acctually have no idea :p probibly just a bug in gaim12:29
othernoobi havent tried irc yet, i'm mainly interested in kopete with an icq account12:29
thoreauputic_Church_of_FoamY: to record with streamtuner, you need to have "streamripper" installed - then just click the record button12:29
Chisloni need some help with kde wallets12:29
othernoob_luke i tried licq, gaim, kopete, none worked12:29
_Church_of_FoamYthoreaputic: i have streamtuner but where does it record too?12:30
_lukecould you send and recieve messages ok?12:30
othernoob_luke, yea, chatting works just fine12:30
_Church_of_FoamYsame here12:30
_Church_of_FoamYwe just can't send or receve files12:30
cabajgtrI don't suppose you know whether it works in winbloze?12:30
thoreauputic_Church_of_FoamY: as I said, you need "streamripper" as well - and it rcords to a directory it makes in your home directory12:31
othernoobcabajgtr it worked fine when i still used windows12:31
cabajgtrI have never gotten in to work on my Mac is MS messenger12:31
thoreauputicwith the name of the stream/station for the dir it makes12:31
_Church_of_FoamYoh nice12:31
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thoreauputicit also splits the tracks for you12:31
_Church_of_FoamYsweet12:32
_Church_of_FoamYothernoob i wonder if we should do a bug report12:32
othernoobmmh12:33
cabajgtrhave both of you tried it with other people/clients12:33
cabajgtr?12:33
_Church_of_FoamYyes12:33
_Church_of_FoamYi have12:33
_Church_of_FoamYit dosen't matter i can't send to no one nor can i receve12:34
_Church_of_FoamYit's weard12:34
othernoobcabajgtr, like i said, i tried licq, gaim, kopete, all with my icq account..12:34
othernoobthe guy who tried to send me a file knows that it's not his side12:34
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_lukeit might be an icq thing then12:34
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_Church_of_FoamYi have a cheapo router with nat only....no firewall12:34
cabajgtrtry a different network?12:35
cabajgtrIf youre gonna submit a bug report, you have to get specific for them12:35
othernoob_luke why would it be a icq thing ?12:35
_Church_of_FoamYwhen i first installed ubuntu a month ago it worked just fine12:35
_Church_of_FoamYno problems whatso ever12:35
_lukebecause I've never had a problem with gaim but I use it for msn12:36
_Church_of_FoamYthan the updates came and i think they may have broken it or something12:36
cabajgtrit's definitely possible12:36
cabajgtryou could try downgrading12:36
othernoobwhich updates ?12:36
_Church_of_FoamYi don't know but theres been a few sence i installed12:37
_Church_of_FoamYi wonder if one of them diden't break DCC or some other component12:37
cabajgtryou could try removing gaim, and installing it from the debian tree...12:37
_Church_of_FoamYhmmm that may work12:37
_Church_of_FoamYbut it seems to have killed the p2p transfers acrost the board12:38
cabajgtrif its a bug, it couldn't make it into debian stable12:38
_Church_of_FoamYit dsen't seem to matter what you use12:38
_Church_of_FoamYi mean it's really wack12:38
_Church_of_FoamYkopete,gaim, all of them it goofed12:39
_Church_of_FoamYeven DCC12:39
_lukewell all those programs wouldn't have the same bug..12:39
cabajgtryeah its hard to say, and getting out of the ubuntu tree, could mess other things up if you start changing libraries and stuff12:39
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_lukedo you have any other operating systems on your computer or network?12:39
othernoobheh.. a small win partition, which is never ever ever going online..12:39
_Church_of_FoamYwell yea i have 12 computers12:40
_Church_of_FoamYall i'd have to do is fire one up12:40
_Church_of_FoamYand put xp on it again12:40
_lukethen try gaim on your other computers12:40
_Church_of_FoamYi switched them all to ubuntu12:40
_lukelol mad12:40
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_Church_of_FoamYi said screw m$ i'm gonna be free ^_^12:41
_Church_of_FoamYthan i took my pirated xp cd and put it in the microwave for 10 sec12:42
_Church_of_FoamYand fried it ^_^12:42
_lukelol good on ya12:42
_Church_of_FoamYthanx to the many creators and workers of this great distro all of my computers are legit ^_^12:44
Curaltonhah :)12:44
_lukeso long as you don't get power vuts12:44
_lukecuts**12:44
_Church_of_FoamYlol12:45
_Church_of_FoamYno way i get free electric12:45
_lukeI reacon thats whats could've killed my kubuntu12:45
_lukesomething like that12:46
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_Church_of_FoamYdamn12:46
_lukeanyway, fsck finished it off:p12:46
_Church_of_FoamYouch12:46
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_lukeyup12:47
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_Church_of_FoamYdamnit12:52
_Church_of_FoamYthis HAS to be a bug12:52
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_Church_of_FoamYlol dream well01:02
dtorg29Has anyone ha problems installing cursor themes on kubuntu? I need help thanks01:02
_Church_of_FoamYi haven't even tryed yet sorry :(01:04
Chisloni opened up Run Command... and typed in sudo apt-get install tuxracer   , then nothing happened, did it do anything or what is Run Command... for?01:06
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kalenedraelChislon, likely it wanted to prompt you for a password but couldn't because you didn't open a terminal01:06
kalenedraeltry typing it in terminal :P01:06
othernoobChislon, you need to  click on options and mark Run in Terminal if you wanna do it that way01:07
Chislonkalenedrael, othernoob ok thank you01:08
Chislonwhat other games are there?01:08
kalenedraelthere is the kdegames package01:08
othernoobChislon: open kynaptic and you'll find a list of games..somewhere..01:08
Chislonkalenedrael, othernoob oh ok thank you01:08
othernoobyw01:09
kalenedraelnp01:09
othernoobwe're a good team kalenedrael, wanna make out :p01:09
kalenedrael:p01:09
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Chisloni tired to run kynaptic and it said this01:11
Chislonthere was an error setting up inter-process communications for KDE.  The message returned by the system was:01:11
ChislonAuthentication Rejected, reason: None fo the authentication protocls specifried are supported and host-based authentication failed01:11
Chislonplease check that the "dcopserver" program is running01:11
Chislonso what do i do?01:12
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_Church_of_FoamYgod damnit01:15
_Church_of_FoamYthat was $hitty01:15
_Church_of_FoamYfor some reason i just coulden't connect01:15
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othernoobChislon, no idea, sorry01:15
Chislonothernoob, np, thank you01:16
_Church_of_FoamYit said my name was in use and i had lost connection01:16
snowsealany tip on accessing my infra red device?01:22
Chislonim in kynoptic, and i selected somet things to install, then i hit commit changes, and it says confirm changes, but hten what do i do, there isnt a button for confirming that i see?01:23
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othernoobChislon. click on that green arrow pointing downwars.01:26
othernoobdownwards*01:26
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Chislonothernoob, and then it says confirm changes and then there is nothing to click01:27
othernoobuhm.. make the size of the window that popped up a bit bigger01:28
cabajgtrI suggest installing synaptic, the kynaptic port is a little buggy, screen sizes, etc01:29
cabajgtrAnd for most things, using apt-get at the command line is a lot faster01:29
kalenedraelsudo apt-get install synaptic01:29
othernoobcabajgtr is kynaptics only bug the screen size ?01:29
cabajgtryes01:29
cabajgtroh, sorry, the bug is kynaptic only01:30
snowsealhow to play an asf streaming video?01:30
cabajgtrI'm not sure if there are other problems01:30
kalenedraelnot in linux, you don't01:30
kalenedrael:P01:30
cabajgtrwhat is asf?01:30
kalenedraelhonestly, i don't know, but your chances look slim01:30
kalenedraeladvanced systems format, IIRC01:30
cabajgtrcheck mplayer for codecs01:30
kalenedraelmplayer likely won't help if it's streaming....01:31
cabajgtrahh01:31
snowsealso i would have to install ms media player on wine?01:32
othernoobcabajgtr, if kynaptics only bug is the size, why install a gnome prog with its dependencies ?01:32
othernoobsnowseal try vlc01:32
snowsealty01:32
cabajgtrchances are you will have most of the dependencies anyway..01:32
othernoobchances are chances ;)01:32
cabajgtrpersonally, i just use apt-get01:32
Chislonok thank you for your help01:33
othernoobi use apt if i know what i want.. kynaptic if im looking around..01:34
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Chislonso synaptic and kynaptic do the same thing so its ok if i use synaptic?01:35
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cabajgtryeah, kynaptic is a partially ported version of synaptic01:36
Chislonmost of dependencies for waht?01:36
Chisloncan linux play win media files, real files, quicktime, etc?01:36
cabajgtrIt's a gnome program, so it requires gnome libraries01:36
rexykikwhat do sata drives appear as (as far as /dev/?)01:36
rexykikyes Chislon 01:37
cabajgtrYou just need to get all the mplayer codecs, and mplayer01:37
rexykikmy mplayer installed funny for some reason.01:38
Chislonoh ok thank you01:38
snowsealmplayer isnt in the repositories.. :(01:38
cabajgtrhow funny?01:38
Chislonand its legal to do that?01:38
rexykiklol yes Chislon 01:38
rexykikits increadibly legal01:39
Chislonok thank you01:39
cabajgtrsome codecs (dvd decryption, wma) have questionable licensing issues..01:39
Chislonand synaptic only shows kde sutff? or both kde and gnome stuff?01:39
rexykikuhh...just doesnt work with alot of things01:39
cabajgtrbut it's not like the RIAA has a problem with it01:39
rexykikboth01:39
kalenedraelmplayer is indeed in the repos01:39
kalenedraelthe MPAA probably has a problem with it01:39
kalenedraelmore the libdvdcss than the player itself01:39
cabajgtrsynaptic and kynaptic both show you everything in the repositories you tell it to look in01:40
Chislonok thank you... how do i tell it which to look in01:40
rexykikconfig file01:40
Chisloni want it to look in all repositories, yes?01:40
kalenedraelumm, there are hundreds of repos01:40
rexykiklol01:40
kalenedraelok, how about this01:40
Chislonso ill be able to make sure to get everything i want01:40
Chislon^^01:41
cabajgtroh, you want it to look at the ones already in your sources.list01:41
rexykikheh heh heh01:41
Chislonok01:41
kalenedraeli paste to you my /etc/apt/sources.list01:41
rexykikpaste me in too kalenedrael 01:41
rexykikit*01:41
kalenedraelit only has the standard kubuntu repos01:41
Chisloni did something yesterday that someone walked through where i put a # infront of cd and took a # away from some deb-source stuff if thats what ur refering to?01:41
Chisloni installed ubuntu and then installed kde01:41
Chislonso do i then need the standard kubuntu ones?01:41
rexykikthe # is a comment01:42
rexykikwhen there is one before something, it means the rest isn't taken into processing01:42
kalenedraelsure, why not01:42
kalenedraelthey are the same as the ubuntu ones01:42
rexykikits just a comment, doesnt do anything01:42
Chislonwhat do you mean by sure, why not01:43
Chislonim confused :)01:43
rexykik"sure, why not" is what i think he means.01:43
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cabajgtryou may have this but this is for mplayer repository with codecs:01:43
cabajgtrdeb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main01:43
EvanCarrollwhere does the control center save the network information if not in /etc/network/interfaces01:43
Chisloni dont know how to do any of this.. or what im supposed to be doing with these things01:43
kalenedraelto update, run sudo apt-get update01:43
kalenedraelto upgrade, run sudo apt-get upgrade01:43
kalenedraelChislon, put those lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list file01:44
rexykikread a linux for dummies file01:44
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Chisloni do not want to select download package files only correct?01:44
Chislonkalenedrael, not sur ehow to do that... like for hte most part i dont know anything, so not sure where to start learning and stuff01:45
cabajgtrChislon, are you in synaptic?01:45
Chislonyes01:45
cabajgtrok, close it01:45
kalenedraeli'm going to take a nap for a moment...01:45
rexykiklol01:45
cabajgtropen up a terminal01:45
Chislonkalenedrael, thank you fo ryour help01:45
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Chisloni left download packages only unslected is that right to do?01:46
cabajgtrgo ahead and update packagaes01:46
Chislonhow come this terminal is the opposite of the gnome ones01:46
Chislonso do sudo apt-get update?01:47
cabajgtris synaptic updating?01:47
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Chisloni didnt enter hte command yet01:47
_Church_of_FoamYback01:47
Chislonin synaptic i selected a few things i watned installed, then on the confirm screen it said download packages only and that was unchecked, so i left it unchecked01:47
Chislonand it installed those things01:47
Chislonthen i opened up the terminal like you said01:47
Chislonam i supposed to type sudo apt-get update in it?01:48
cabajgtrWell, maybe you don't need to do anytinng01:48
Chislonok..01:48
othernoobchurchy, you on now ?01:48
cabajgtrif it is installing ok from synaptic, than your sources should be fine01:48
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cabajgtrunless you need to add one for mplayer01:48
Chisloncabajgtr, ok thank you... how do i install thunderbird, i saw several things there01:48
Chislonso i didnt do any01:49
cabajgtrIf you select the most generic one in synaptic, it should autoselect dependent packages01:49
Chislonit asked for my password in the terminal, but i didnt wnat to do th ething it was doing so i just closed the terminal, does that work?01:49
cabajgtryes01:49
Chislonok htank you01:49
cabajgtrI would suggest reading the basics of Apt-get on the debian.org documentation01:50
Chislonok thank you01:50
cabajgtroccasionally you will want to add a repository to download a special package, but you want to becareful not to have a bunch of conflicting repositories01:51
cabajgtror you will run into version problems01:52
Chislonoh01:52
Chislonok01:52
cabajgtrgood luck, gotta run01:52
Chislonthank you for your help, bye01:53
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nmorseI'm back02:17
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_Church_of_FoamYwelcome back02:22
digbyhey, foamy, did you ever get liquid weather working?02:23
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nmorseI'm just waiting for the apocalypse to occur02:27
nmorseDebian Sarge and Mac on Intel in one day02:27
digbyhaha02:27
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digbythe world is coming to an end, indeed02:28
nmorseI'm telling you, with the amount of stuff that happened between Debian releases, the end is extremely f'ing nigh02:28
nmorseThe Olympic Games returned to Greece02:28
nmorseThe Pope Died02:28
nmorseA German Pope was elected02:28
_Church_of_FoamYwhich wories me02:28
nmorseDeep Throat's identity was revealed02:29
digbyN Korea has nukes02:29
sproingiewhat would worry me would be an american pope02:29
_Church_of_FoamY:::shivers:::02:29
nmorseIt looks exactly like the Apocalypse list, except for the lack of locusts02:29
_Church_of_FoamYouch02:29
_Church_of_FoamY<--pagan revernd02:29
monchywhat you should really be worried about is bush in office till 2008 lol02:29
nmorseNo joke, monchy02:29
sproingieapocalyptic talk sparked by apple going to intel i take it?02:30
nmorseBut I still prefer him to Kerry02:30
monchyhe scares the most02:30
_Church_of_FoamYwell if that happens i'm moving to the uk02:30
nmorseand debian sarge released02:30
sproingienmorse: why?02:30
monchyme*02:30
_Church_of_FoamYor to cananada 02:30
_Church_of_FoamYor amsterdam cause weeds legal there02:30
nmorseTime to move to Canada, indeed02:30
_Church_of_FoamYi'll be a pot farmer02:30
nmorseWeed's legal in Canada02:30
monchyyeah all your draft dodgers are welcome here ;)02:30
_Church_of_FoamYok i'll bee a pot farmer there02:30
_Church_of_FoamYi never regesterd02:30
sproingiehardly.  canada's never granted asylum to americans02:31
nmorseI'll move to Quebec02:31
_Church_of_FoamYi woulden't defend this country if they forced me to02:31
_Church_of_FoamYi'd fight for the other guy02:31
nmorseQuebec doesn't care as long as you speak French02:31
monchyew don't move to quebec02:31
_Church_of_FoamYcumo talli vue?02:31
nmorseWhy not?02:31
_Church_of_FoamYbad spelling02:31
nmorseVery bad spelling02:31
monchyall they want to do is seperate from canada02:31
monchythey think they have it so bad02:31
sproingiedamn it.  kicker is becoming the bane of my existence02:32
_Church_of_FoamYbecuase america is the biggest freaking oxymoronic degenrate nation in the world02:32
_Church_of_FoamYwe need to get our ass whooped02:32
_Church_of_FoamYit would serve us right for all the crokked shit we did02:32
nmorseI wouldn't say that, Foamy02:32
_Church_of_FoamYand besides if you diden't know BUSH IS A FUCKING MORON!!! >.<02:32
monchythat he is02:32
sproingiegolly.  you even old enough to vote?02:32
_Church_of_FoamYi hate him not only becuase of that02:33
_Church_of_FoamYbut he wants to outlaw my religion02:33
_Church_of_FoamYdude i am 30 years old02:33
monchyi wonder how different things would have of been though if kerry got elected02:33
digbynot very02:33
_Church_of_FoamYi have never voted never regesterd for the draft02:33
sproingiethen talk like it02:33
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sproingielove kde.  kicker is driving me bananas02:34
_Church_of_FoamYhuh?02:34
_Church_of_FoamYlol02:34
nmorseKicker does that sometimes02:34
sproingiebuggy02:34
sproingiecrashy02:34
_Church_of_FoamYok look at it this way02:34
sproingienever remembers layout settings02:34
_Church_of_FoamYyou know the situation in iraq right02:34
_Church_of_FoamYwe gave them weapons and trained them and they flew a plain into our buildings02:35
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_Church_of_FoamYthat seems like our fult to me02:35
monchyyou mean al qaeda02:35
sproingiei was noticing my windows slooooly creep up ... and OFF my screen02:35
_Church_of_FoamYyea02:35
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_Church_of_FoamYsproinie that neat02:35
sproingiewe created al quaeda.  armed and funded them02:35
_Church_of_FoamYso when they hit us why where we surprised?02:36
_Church_of_FoamYwe had no business over there in the first place02:36
sproingienot really unique to us tho02:36
sproingieisrael created hamas.  they wanted a counterweight to the PLO02:36
sproingieoops02:36
_Church_of_FoamYif we had kept to ourselves like the founding father had intended us to02:36
_Church_of_FoamYwe woulden't be in debit or hated by other nations for our stupid actions02:36
_Church_of_FoamYand there would be peace02:37
sproingiethe founding fathers didn't let anyone but white male property owners vote02:37
sproingiethey were men, not gods02:37
_Church_of_FoamYtrue but things where diffrent now02:37
_Church_of_FoamYi mean then02:37
_Church_of_FoamYthey had diffrent morals02:37
_Church_of_FoamYlike they called retards......well retards02:37
sproingiei'm not casting aspersions.  i'm just saying that enlightened societies are not static02:38
_Church_of_FoamYno "cereberaly challenged individual"02:38
_Church_of_FoamYyou know that politicly correct non offencive bullcrap02:38
sproingieyeah.  cuz we should be calling them tards02:38
sproingiehow about gimps02:38
_Church_of_FoamYdamn straight02:38
sproingieand nig --- oh hey, that's not good is it02:38
_Church_of_FoamYthey made this country great and we messed it up02:38
sproingiebut keep pounding at straw men02:39
_Church_of_FoamYno not even now02:39
nmorseWow, is that some USA bashing02:39
_Church_of_FoamYwe are smarter and know that all people no matter what religion race or creed are equil02:39
nmorseI swear, self-loathing must be a craze these days02:39
_Church_of_FoamYeven if it means that we dislike there ways and ideas02:39
_Church_of_FoamYi'm not an american02:39
sproingiethis bit of linguistic polemic makes me not sure about that "smarter now" thing02:39
_Church_of_FoamYi'm a meain02:40
_Church_of_FoamYi am the country of me02:40
_Church_of_FoamYlol02:40
monchylol02:40
_Church_of_FoamYi woulden't want to blow up america or anything02:40
_Church_of_FoamYbut i would like to see us get our "just desserts"02:40
_Church_of_FoamYand even if it happend in my front yard i'd deal with it02:41
_Church_of_FoamYjust because we deserve it02:41
monchyyou'd be dead lol02:41
_Church_of_FoamYtrue02:41
_Church_of_FoamYcan't argue with that02:41
_Church_of_FoamYlol02:41
sproingiethe problem isn't that the USA is #1 ... it's that we think we are. it'd be nice to have some awareness of not being in the top spot, maybe we'd stop being such bastards trying to defend it02:41
dreumahhey02:42
_Church_of_FoamYi agree02:42
_Church_of_FoamYyea02:42
sproingieit's like prussia in the 1800's.  thought they were the center of the universe, while the universe was busy proving otherwise02:42
dreumahboth of you are american?02:42
_Church_of_FoamYyup02:42
_Church_of_FoamYyes02:42
sproingieayyyep02:42
dreumahwow02:42
monchyi'm canadian i just don't like things the way are run over there02:43
_Church_of_FoamYyou have to understand derumah we have twisted politicians02:43
_Church_of_FoamYthat makes for a twisted country02:43
_Church_of_FoamYwe think we are the top $hits02:43
dreumahi am german, so i know about twisted politicians02:43
sproingiethere was also this bunch that mostly sat around and bitched about how prussia was rotting away.  they either turned into bitter philosphers like schiller and nietzsche02:43
_Church_of_FoamYwhen it's china with the largest army in the worlsd02:44
othernoobdreumah, was whlste im herbst ?02:44
sproingieor nationalists like guess who02:44
_Church_of_FoamYwhoa weard language02:44
_Church_of_FoamYwhat is it dutch?02:44
othernoobheh..german..02:44
_Church_of_FoamYoh lol02:44
_Church_of_FoamYi know to words in german02:44
_Church_of_FoamYgutinobin02:45
dreumahi dont get the question02:45
_Church_of_FoamYand gutenmorgan02:45
_Church_of_FoamYthats it02:45
dreumahwas?02:45
_Church_of_FoamYyeao02:45
othernoobdreumah, i thought you said you were german, you know..fall..election ?..ever watch the news?02:45
_Church_of_FoamYlol02:45
dreumahi havent lived in germany for 10 years now02:46
othernooboooh02:46
dreumahi left to india when i was ten02:46
dreumahmit meinen eltern02:46
othernoobi see.. that might explain why you don't follow the innerpolitic news of germany..02:47
dreumahbecause i am a lazy student in the uk02:47
_Church_of_FoamYi might even move to ireland 02:48
_Church_of_FoamYit looks pritty02:48
_Church_of_FoamYfrom the pics lol02:48
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dreumahnever been three02:49
dreumahthere02:49
othernoobim off, night..02:50
dreumahnight night02:50
snowsealoi02:54
snowsealwhat could be the video device name to specify in vlc?02:55
_Church_of_FoamYhmm is there a key to get a ppc to boot from the scrom?02:55
_Church_of_FoamYcdrom even02:56
snowseal/dev/video is obviously wrong. i dont see video :/02:56
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shivI have Dell 700m I have aperfect resolution using 855resolution, now the problem is the fonts are too big. Can anybody plz help?03:09
KaiLcontrol center -> appearance -> fonts :)03:10
KaiLand yes, they ARE to big03:10
KaiLRiddell must have 130dpi or so ;)03:11
shivI did that but when I reduce the font size they become ugly03:12
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Chisloni am trying to make Gaim thinner, it wont go thinner, is there anyway to get it thinner? if not... why not?03:16
snowsealskins03:18
Chislon?03:18
Chislonwhat do you mean03:18
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abisenkubuntu is awesome ... the best KDE implementation i have ever seen .. 03:31
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dhanishanyone else having problem having apt-get trying even see the updates to kde 3.4.1 using deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary-updates main?03:50
dhanish"sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" doesn't do anything after updating sources.lst anyone else having that issue?03:53
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reagleBRKLNcan anyone view the clip in http://stream.apple.akadns.net/ ?03:54
reagleBRKLNkaffeine plugin seems to have problems with many online videos, seemingly if they don't have a nice file extension...?03:55
sirukinnot I03:55
reagleBRKLNsirukin: what error? (if any?)03:55
sirukinanything conclusive on the repository bussiness?03:55
sirukinreagleBRKLN, ?03:55
reagleBRKLNoh, weren't talking to me03:55
sirukinhaha03:55
reagleBRKLNi get the error: No plugin found to handle this resource (rtsp://a2047.v1412b.c1412.g.vq.akamaistream.net/5/2047/1412/1_h264_350/1a1a1ae555c531960166df4dbc3095c327960d7be756b71b49aa1576e344addb3ead1a497aaedf11/wwdc_2005_1_h264_350.mov)03:55
sirukinahh03:55
sirukinare you using realmedia player 10?03:56
sirukinor something03:56
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reagleBRKLNno kaffeine and mplayer03:56
reagleBRKLNxine: cannot find input plugin for MRL [rtsp://a2047.v1412b.c1412.g.vq.akamaistream.net/5/2047/1412/1_h264_350/1a1a1ae555c531960166df4dbc3095c327960d7be756b71b49aa1576e344addb3ead1a497aaedf11/wwdc_2005_1_h264_350.mov] 03:56
reagleBRKLNxine: input plugin cannot open MRL [rtsp://a2047.v1412b.c1412.g.vq.akamaistream.net/5/2047/1412/1_h264_350/1a1a1ae555c531960166df4dbc3095c327960d7be756b71b49aa1576e344addb3ead1a497aaedf11/wwdc_2005_1_h264_350.mov] 03:56
reagleBRKLN(that's what kaffeine's details says)03:56
sirukinI have had terrible experinces with kaffeine.03:57
sirukinexperiences even03:57
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sirukinit crashes in the middle of movies if I open another video file, it just blanks and doesn't close the preceding stream03:57
sirukinsomething to that effect anyway03:57
sirukin;S03:57
dhanishwhy would apt-get not see the 3.4.1 updates even after doing apt-get update?03:57
sirukindhanish, you need to use the perscribed repository.03:58
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dhanishsirukin: prescribed...huh? i'm using kubuntu.org as a repo like the channel topic said04:00
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dhanishis that not a prescribed repo?04:01
sirukinokay04:01
sirukinhave you updated previously?04:01
sirukintry commenting out everything except the one in the topic04:01
sirukinI used kde's repository however04:01
dhanishhrm...almost there...i just tried commenting out everything except the official repos but let me just try kde 3.4.1 repo only04:02
_Church_of_FoamYfeel my squirlly rath!04:02
dhanishbtw...regarding kaffeine...have you guys checked the forums and downloaded the *fix* package....did the trick for me04:02
sirukinno, but I will now04:03
sirukinhappen to have the url handy?04:03
monchywhat web browser you guys using for kubuntu?04:03
dhanishnah..sorry just search in the kubuntu forum for kaffeine fix i'm sure you'll see the long thread04:04
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sirukinkk04:04
sirukinty04:04
dhanishbtw...i guess having just kubuntu.org in the sources.lst worked....odd04:04
dhanishty as well :)04:05
sirukinno04:05
sirukinit makes sense04:05
dhanisheh...why?04:05
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sirukinbecause if the kde packages in the main repositories aren't updated, then the kde 3.4.1 updates are considered as the same as the old ones04:05
sirukinor something04:06
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sirukin:S04:06
sirukindhanish, yeah04:06
dhanishoh k...but i thought apt-get was suppose to use the latest packages from any one of the repos in the sources.lst04:06
sirukinyeah04:08
sirukinmaybe you're right04:08
sirukinbut that doesn't explain why the regular ubuntu packages for 3.4 have priority over the kde 3.4.1 release packages04:08
dhanishsirukin: kaffeine_0.6-1_i386.deb is the package i used to fix my kaffiene issues but i cant recall where i downloaded it from i think i found the link through the forums04:08
reagleBRKLNdhanish: hrmm...04:09
sirukinor something like that, am I making any sense?04:09
sirukin:S04:09
dhanishyeh...sorta04:09
sirukinmy...sources.lst is empty04:09
reagleBRKLNlet me train 0.6-1 out of sid... no that's scary, requires a new libc604:09
sirukinI removed everything04:10
sirukinstupid Ign:blah blah blah04:10
dhanishreagleBRKLN: i am not sure about that but it works fine....04:11
reagleBRKLNdhanish: that's what's your using, from unstable?04:12
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dhanishi believe so....want the dpkg-deb --info output?04:14
reagleBRKLNapt-cache policy is handy that way04:16
dhanishsorry i'm new to apt*....apt-cache policy?04:17
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rcecAnyone here?04:20
reagleBRKLNno04:20
rcec:-)04:20
ShuddertrixNope. No one here. Look elsewhere.04:21
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_Church_of_FoamYthere is none avalible to take your call please leave your message after the beep.....04:22
_Church_of_FoamYBEEP!04:23
reagleBRKLN40404:23
Shuddertrix*cues elevator music*04:23
reagleBRKLN;)04:23
rcecI'm teaching my unc about this IRC stuff LOL04:23
ShuddertrixYour call is important to us. Please hold until further notice. All of our operators are eating pie. <snicker>04:23
_Church_of_FoamYsomeone needs to teach me the commands lol04:24
sirukinI want to start a geek punk band04:25
ShuddertrixHaha, sarge was released today, 2 DVD's, 14 CD's. The only option should be the network install, but even then, it's not Kubuntu nor does it have KDE 3.4 :D04:26
sirukinhehe04:26
reagleBRKLNwell, it supports 11 architectures04:26
reagleBRKLNand is the base upon which kubuntu stands04:27
ShuddertrixreagleBRKLN: Of course, but it's vanilla and those 2 DVDs/14 CDs came from the i386 build.04:27
Chislonwhat do you recommend to take the place of winamp on windows for k/ubuntu?04:29
sirukinyou know your distro is backwards when theres a release every 4 years04:29
Chislonid like it to do the, or somethign similiar, to how winamp does shoutcast04:29
reagleBRKLNChislon: xmms, amarok, juk04:29
sirukinxmms204:29
Chislondo they do shoutcast or soemthing similiar?04:29
Shuddertrixbmp, amarok, juk, xmms, etc.04:30
ShuddertrixI've been able to listen to shoutcast with beep-media-player, not sure about others..04:31
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ShuddertrixIf you need something to fall on, though, I bet Crossover office runs Winamp, or perhaps vanilla wine.04:32
Chislonok thank you04:32
Chislonok thank you04:32
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ShuddertrixCedega might work for those fancier visulizations (milkdrop)04:33
Chislonnot familiar with milkdrop, but its a winamp visuization?04:34
sirukinActually, I've been using Helix player and RM 10 for everything04:35
sirukinworks very nicely04:35
Chislonwhats rm04:35
Shuddertrixmilk something, it's been around for awhile, it's very nice04:35
Chislonoh kool04:35
Shuddertrixrealmedia04:36
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Shuddertrixrealplayer.04:36
Chislonok wasnt sure04:36
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Shuddertrixhelix. shiver.04:36
sirukinShuddertrix, haha04:36
sirukinwell, it works.....for a few things04:36
sirukin:S04:36
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dm1trime mldonkey not a plugin for fasttrack. help-me04:38
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Chislonis there something similiar to media player classic that can legally play quicktime, real, windows media files and all that on linux?04:41
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crimsunChislon: legally? no.04:43
crimsunChislon: at least not in the form you're probably considering04:44
Chislonwhat do u mean04:44
crimsunChislon: there are the live.com codecs, there is ffmpeg, and there is support for older versions of quicktime - all legal04:45
Chislonwhat slive adn ffmpeg? but theres no legal for windows media or real time?04:45
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closureso umm04:49
closuresince debian sarge 3.1 was released does this effect kubuntu04:49
crimsunno04:49
crimsunwhy would it?04:49
Chisloncrimsun, whats live and ffmpeg? but theres no legal for windows media or real time?04:50
closurecrimsun, because it's debian based?04:50
Chislonclosure, i wondered the same thing04:50
crimsunChislon: live.com -> real, ffmpeg -> avi04:51
Chisloncrimsun, what about wma's and all that stuff04:51
crimsunChislon: ffmpeg may support them, but I don't use ffmpeg for wmas. I use mplayer.04:51
Chisloncrimsun, but mplayer is illegal?04:52
crimsunChislon: mplayer encourages the distribution of IP-questionable codecs04:52
crimsun(it needs w32codecs)04:52
Chisloncrimsun, ok.. whats IP mean04:52
crimsunintellectual property04:53
Chislonoh ok04:53
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Chisloncrimsun, but what if i own a legal copy of windows xp? isn thtat just like how its legal to burn your own cds?04:55
crimsunChislon: I don't know if owning a copy of XP entitles you to use Windows-based codecs on a non-Windows install. I am not a lawyer yet.04:56
Chisloncrimsun, ok thank you04:56
crimsunnp04:57
closuredoes anyone use opera?04:58
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closureis net install set up for kubuntu yet?05:10
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sirukinhmm05:25
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sproingieyes, we can see unicode works05:27
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_Church_of_FoamYsorry i was just playing05:27
_Church_of_FoamYstill thinking that linux is neat05:27
_Church_of_FoamY^_^05:27
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closurehrm05:40
closureyeah05:40
closureumm is there a way to make a demand for things to be supported in the next releast05:41
closureerr release05:41
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mrmanica demand?05:46
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mrmanicprobably not unless you have a lot of money to throw at the problem.05:46
mrmanicthere's probably a wishlist, though.05:46
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strHi there..05:51
strI don't find the w32codec package05:51
closuremrmanic, it was a joke05:51
mrmanicclosure: ok :)05:54
mrmanicexhaustion makes me take things way too seriously, I think05:54
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closuremrmanic, i mean i would make a demand if i could05:56
closurelol05:56
mrmanicclosure: :D  keep saving your pennies :D  some day you might have enough to buy your own developer to demand features from. ;)05:57
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hyphenatedbah, who renamed the kubuntu .iso's?! ;-)06:00
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closurealright!06:03
closuregot flash working106:03
closurethat's a start06:03
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ubuntuwhere can I find win32 codecs06:03
crimsunubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:04
ubuntusweet. Thanks06:05
ubuntuI'm running Kubuntu Live and it is sweet. 06:06
closurecan't you just apt-get them?06:06
closureubuntu, try it full install06:06
closureit's even cooler06:06
ubuntuI am kinda wishing I installed it instead of Debian Sarge. Super fast settup.06:07
crimsunclosure: I gave him the url with instructions for apt-getting the package06:08
closureoh06:08
ubuntuclosure: I just needed the apt source mirror address. 06:10
ubuntuDebian Sarge mirrors have win32 codecs.  Whey don06:11
ubuntuwhey don't ubuntu mirrors have them?06:11
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crimsunubuntu isn't debian, though06:15
closureit supports deb pkgs though06:15
crimsunso does libranet06:15
crimsunso does knoppix06:15
crimsunthat doesn't make either of them debian :)06:15
ubuntuThey are based on Debian. Just look at the installer. Ubuntu and Kubuntu screem Debian06:16
crimsunthat's my point06:17
crimsunjust because all the distros are based on debian does not make them debian06:17
mrmanicubuntu: you are based on your parents, but you are not your parents.06:17
crimsuntherefore to expect that they function identically to debian is misled06:17
ubuntudownloading win32codecs as we speak. Synaptic is so sweet. apt-get is so awsome06:18
closurehttp://www.opera.com/linux/docs/plugins/install/#java06:26
closurecould someone please explain what step 3 through 5 is saying?06:26
mrmanicit sounds like OPERA_PLUGIN_PATH is an environment variable06:33
closureyeah but where do i set it?06:35
closureor how do i set it?06:35
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mrmanicso you'd say export OPERA_PLUGIN_PATH=whatever/path/it/says06:35
closurehrm06:36
mrmaniclook at the general instructions at the top of the page06:41
mrmanicthen apply them as necessary to the java instructions06:41
mrmanicI'm out.06:41
closurehrm ok06:43
closurelater06:43
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Gheteki cant apt-get azureus07:41
Ghetekperhaps im missing something in my sources list?07:42
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Gheteksigh07:52
Gheteki should get sleep anywa07:53
Ghetek*anyway07:53
Ghetektalk to you guys in the morning, do not stay up too late07:53
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cabajgtrI'm setting up a new kubuntu box, and i'm trying to get samba working, for some reason smbpasswd can't connect to the daemon when i run it as a user07:55
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Chisloni just got a konquereror kde crash message up, what do i do?08:55
monchyman these opera menu fonts are fugly08:57
Tm_TSARGE!09:01
sproingieopera's choice of default fonts was ... curious09:06
sproingieOpera 8: Courier New's Revenge09:06
Chisloni got a Konquerer the kde crash handler message, waht do i do please?09:06
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kameroni'm interested in switching distros, from mandrake, to kubuntu.. can anyone talk to me, just about the basics of the ubuntu project, and the differences between kubuntu and ubuntu.. package management, etc?09:08
gdhTm_T: yes sarge indeed - have been here for the last hour after getting bitten by an auto nightly upgrade to "stable" :)09:08
sproingiekameron: kubuntu is ubuntu using kde instead of gnome09:08
kameroni know that, but that's about all i know.09:09
kameronis that the only difference?09:09
sproingiekameron: ubuntu is more or less debian unstable, made stable and released every 6 months.  plus some changes of its own, e.g. xorg instead of xf8609:09
kameroncool.09:10
kameronwhat package management, and dep-solver does it use?09:10
kamerondeb, and apt-get?09:10
sproingiekameron: if you know debian, you know ubuntu.  different packaging, more "desktop" oriented09:10
sproingiekameron: of course09:10
kameronokay.09:10
kameroni know little of debian. i've been mandrake for years now.09:10
sproingiei think you'll find apt refreshing09:10
sproingiepeople usually rave about synaptic, though i prefer aptitude09:11
kameronthose art all dep solvers?09:11
kameronare*09:11
sproingieyes, apt solves deps, downloads, installs, uninstalls09:11
sproingieit front ends the package management, you hardly ever use dpkg unless you downloaded or built a package manually09:12
kalenedraelok, wtf09:12
kameronlink to a bittorrent download of kubuntu? or ftp, something?09:13
kalenedraeli was supposed to take a nap for an hour or so and ended up sleeping for a few09:13
kalenedraellike 6 hours09:14
kalenedraeldamn it09:14
kameronlol kalendrae109:14
kameronand, how is amd64 support.. as well as ppc support? i don't own x86.. just ppc and amd64.09:14
sproingieamd64 support is quite good09:15
kalenedraeli have an athlon64 and it works well09:15
sproingiei use it myself09:15
kalenedraelnow it's 3:15AM over here09:15
sproingieit does not do bi-arch however.  however, chroot+debootstrap makes creating a 32bit chroot pretty painless09:15
kalenedraeland i had all this shit to do that i have no time for09:15
sproingiei like chroots, i might run gentoo in a chroot just for kicks09:15
sproingienot sure how good the ppc support is, don't have any ppc myself09:17
kameronso.. download link? i'm pretty much sold.09:17
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sproingiewell if you want kubuntu, www.kubuntu.org09:18
sproingieif you prefer gnome, www.ubuntulinux.org09:18
kameronuhh, not into gnome.09:18
sproingieyou want kubuntu then.  it installs a few gnome libs because it has tools that depend on them.  not much tho09:19
kalenedraelyeah09:19
kalenedraelthis is the kubuntu channel, after all....09:19
kameronyeah, gnome libs and tools is all good. i just don't want the DE09:20
sproingiekubuntu is ubuntu, and they use the same apt sources.  just a different configuration09:20
sproingieyou can install kubuntu easily from vanilla ubuntu.  gnome is just more entrenched on vanilla ubuntu09:21
kameronvanilla?09:21
kameronrelease code name?09:21
sproingienaw, idiomatic term09:21
kameronfor?09:21
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sproingieplain09:21
kameronah, okay.09:21
kameronwhich route SHOULD i go then, for best compatibility, easy of use.. install ubuntu, and then get kde working.. or just go for kubuntu?09:22
sproingieit's kind of appropriate since ubuntu is so brown :)09:22
kameronright-o09:23
sproingiekameron: kubuntu will be fine09:23
Tm_Tkameron: install ubuntu, apt-get kubuntu-desktop and remove unneeded packages09:23
Tm_Tthat's what I prefer09:23
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kameronwell, it doesn't seem like it reallly makes a difference.09:24
kameronbesides, all the kubuntu blue and dragon stuff is cute!09:24
sproingieit's literally one meta-package in ubuntu.  just that the kubuntu distribution (as opposed to the package) doesn't install gnome, and regular ubuntu does 09:24
kameroni'm really not into gnome.09:24
kameronit's like, the gay.09:24
sproingiethat could be construed as a compliment here in san francisco09:25
kameronhahahaha.09:25
kalenedraelhaha09:25
kameronwww.purepwnage.com great show.. from here in canada. they say that a lot.. "the gay"09:25
sproingiei think gnome is technically pretty sound.  the UI bugs the crap out of me tho09:26
kalenedraelyeah09:26
kalenedraeli find it not as configurable as kde09:26
Tm_Tyup09:26
kalenedraelkde is a bit bloated, admittedly09:26
kameronthat's the only thing, the ui bugs me a lot. i beet it's sound and all.. but, not for me.09:26
kameronyes, kde is bloated. i will use fluxbox too, though.09:26
sproingiefluxbox is just a wm, can't see what the fuss is about09:26
kalenedraelO.o my peripheral vision is not good enough to see the top and the bottom of my screen at the same time09:27
sproingiexfce is pretty well supported in ubuntu ... still, gtk based tho09:27
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sproingieso you get all the nice gtk dialogs like the file picker09:28
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kalenedraelif i'm looking at the bottom of the screen, which i am, since that is where all the new lines show up in my irc window09:28
kalenedraelew, gtk09:28
kameroni juse like to use fluxbox when i'm doing work. it's leaner, quicker compile times, etc. less distracting. more straightforward.09:29
sproingieqt the toolkit bugs me in a lot of ways, but I just use the apps, it's nice09:29
sproingiei want something like the lisp machines CLIM for my shell09:30
sproingiecommand line terminal that creates draggable widgets in the terminal window on the fly09:30
kameronthat'd be cool.09:30
sproingieso you could type "ls" and then rubberband some of the files and drag them into your editor09:30
kameronkubuntu is 5% down.09:31
sproingiei should go to sleep.  nite all09:31
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kameronnon-free source code.. easily accessible in ubuntu? plugins, players, drivers, etc?09:31
kameronokay, goodnight sproingie.. thanks for the info.09:32
sproingiekameron: add the "restricted",  "universe", and "multiverse" repositories to your apt sources to get "non-free" stuff09:32
sproingieuniverse is actually all free, just "third party"09:32
kameronsounds good.09:32
sproingienite09:32
kameronnight.09:32
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dreumahhey, i have a problem with my mplayer and xine, they freeze whenever i try to play a movie10:19
laser_tkgetting eny error message?10:20
dreumahno it just stops doing what its doing... loads the first frame and goes black10:21
dreumahi installed chroot yesterday to get kvirc running on my amd64, maybe that is why it doesnt work because before chroot it did10:22
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dreumahnow xine has no sound10:33
dreumahbut mplayer works10:35
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rodolfohi, is there a way to change the font size of the gui of e.g. xchat?10:38
rodolfoI have this font-size problem also with other applications10:38
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scanwinderhow do i get my tv tuner card to work in xawtv?......its a Winfast tv 2000 xp deluxe.................when i run scantv, it says vbi: open failed [/dev/vbi] 10:50
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scanwinderanyone know how2 find out if my tv tuner card has drivers installed?11:06
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gsuvegwhat pkg part the /bin/uic ?11:19
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edulixhi !12:10
edulixanyone can successfully launch /usr/bin/kcmshell kde-clock.desktop and enter admin mode ? it seems borked to me12:11
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\shRiddell: ping12:30
Riddell\sh: hi12:35
gdhRiddell: quickie - will there be any proper KIOSlave integration for OpenOffice in breezy? Or will KOffice 1.4 replace OO.org in breezy?12:36
Riddellgdh: probably not the first since that's in openoffice 2 only12:40
Riddellgdh: and I'm open to debate on the second12:40
gdhcool on both accounts :) I don't use any office apps enough to be able to say if KOffice is 'any good' for the average Windows user...12:41
gdh'Can I use my Access .MDB files with it?' ... grrr bane of my life...12:42
gdhIs the KIOSlave support already in hoary's OO2?12:42
\shRiddell: do u want to see the package first (kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts)?12:42
Riddell\sh: well it has to be reviewed by three people, and I'd be happy to be one of them12:46
Riddellgdh: should be12:47
\shRiddell: ok..normal motu way...12:51
RiddellI don't like to cheat12:54
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\shRiddell: me neither01:06
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natinociao01:20
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\shRiddell: MOTUNewPackages updated accordingly :)01:22
Riddell\sh: cool, I'll try and review the pending MOTUNewPackages today or tomorrow01:22
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\shRiddell: at least, it's not much ;)01:23
Riddellis python-kde3 in breezy yet?01:24
\shyepp01:24
\shbut there is a new upload coming, but only cosmetic adjustments..01:24
\shlike html api documentation for the new syntax 01:24
\shi think my day need to have 96 hours01:25
edulixis breezy going to include swsusp2 activated by default ?01:25
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edulixit would be cool to be able to suspend the pc no matter what the hardware is01:26
edulixah, and it's vry good way to have fast halt/start times and also a huge uptime for those of us who shutdown the pc regularly (you know, like most computer users I know)01:27
\shfor what? if I'm not sitting at my workstation, most propably my workstation is compiling software..01:27
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edulix\sh: I have the pc in my own bedroom and I don't like too much to hear it when I try to sleep. and what about casual users  ? there many people that kubuntu should be bening to, not just developers, I belive01:30
\shedulix: i think it will give more troubles then a normal hw suspend, in the end, it should work first of all for laptops and then for the rest01:32
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edulix\sh: AFAIK, software suspend 2  should work in any machine01:38
\sheven on sparc?,-)01:40
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edulix\sh: yes. at least there's no mention to the architecture needed, so I think that doesn't affect swsusp2 as long as your kernel have compiled it in 01:45
edulix(see http://www.suspend2.net/HOWTO-2.html#ss2.2)01:47
edulix"Software Suspend on a 2.4 or 2.6 kernel requires a CPU featuring pse or pse36 feature (type cat /proc/cpuinfo and check the flags line for pse or pse36). SMP support is functional also" uhm how know, maybe spart doesn't supprt pse? :P01:49
Riddellhay \sh, this python stuff actually works http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/pykde.png02:00
Riddellyou're the man02:00
gdhsure beats Tcl/Tk for easy UI scripting :)02:02
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\shRiddell: heheh :)02:07
Riddellso \sh, what's your next package to conquer?02:09
Riddellhow about kde ruby bindings?02:09
Riddellcan't be too difficult, at least they're well maintained02:09
\shRiddell: hmm...i don't have any clue about ruby...;) anyways, i don't have any clue about python as well :;)02:10
oniryxhello Kubuntu'ers02:10
edulixhi oniryx :)02:11
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oniryxback02:34
oniryxedulix: hi02:34
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snowseali tried to install nvidia with apt, but got low performace. isit advisable to install it manually?03:12
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sparklinghi all03:13
sparklinghi all i've started kubuntu on a powerpc with kubuntu live cd for powerpc03:13
sparklingis it possible to install a program on a usb key?03:14
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Mezwhats a good torrent downloader for kubuntu03:21
laser_tkqtorrent?03:21
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\shbtlaunchmanycurses . --max_upload_rate 2003:21
Tm_TMez: azureus03:24
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MezTm_T isnt that like a massive b/w hogger03:32
Tm_TMez: b/w?03:34
cabajgtrHi, i'm setting up samba, and for some reason, non-root users can't connect to smbd with smbpasswd, any ideas?03:34
Tm_Tblack&white?03:34
Mezbandwidth03:35
Tm_Twhat you mean03:36
Tm_TI have no bandwidth problem with azureus03:37
Tm_Tbut anyway, I don't use torrents really so what do I know about it ;)03:38
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rodolfohi, when I enter "Administrator Mode" in the control center, on some configuration options (e.g. network, samba), it jumps me back to the home page.. anyone experienced this behaviour?04:06
Tm_Tyeah, some have trouble with it04:08
rodolfocan it be fixed?04:09
Tm_TI don't know04:09
Tm_Tbecause I don't have that problem04:09
rodolfois it a bug?04:09
Tm_Tdunno04:10
Tm_Tdo you have KDE 3.4.1?04:10
gdhit's a known issue, just run 'sudo kcontrol'04:10
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Tm_Theh04:10
Tm_TI forgot that04:11
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Tm_TI'm too confused to think today04:11
_Church_of_FoamYis there a website that gives you a ist of all the diffrent torrents?04:13
_Church_of_FoamYfor downloading?04:13
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rodolfoI have kde 3.4.0; what does sudo kcontrol do?04:21
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Tm_T_Church_of_FoamY: many04:22
_Church_of_FoamYoh yea i see that lol04:23
_Church_of_FoamYtrying to get a program becuase i don't have a credit card04:23
_Church_of_FoamY:(04:23
_Church_of_FoamYthe shitty thing is i can afford it :(04:24
gdhrodolfo: 'sudo kcontrol' runs the Control Centre as root04:25
gdhwhich is exactly what you want to change things in 'adminstrator mode'04:25
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_Church_of_FoamYTM_T can you reccomend a good site man?04:28
rodolfogdh, ok04:30
rodolfogdh, do you know if this a bug in kcontrol?04:32
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gdhrodolfo: I do. It is.04:33
oniryxI dont see the window list when I cycle through them, anybody has an idea ??04:33
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SquishyWaffleAnyone ever had permissions errors for /dev/dsp?04:33
SquishyWaffle/join #kubuntu-devel04:33
SquishyWafflewhoops04:33
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Tm_T_Church_of_FoamY: yes, http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hoary/04:35
oniryxSquishyWaffle: nope , do you permission errors with the default user ?04:35
Tm_T_Church_of_FoamY: there's couple good torrents ;)04:35
abisenhow can i remove these cool little popups from my KDE panel 04:35
SquishyWaffleoniryx: yes it is, as soon as KDE open04:36
Tm_Tabisen: Kicker?04:36
_Church_of_FoamYcan you reccomend one04:36
Tm_Twhat popups04:36
oniryxTm_T: do you use Alt+Tab ?04:36
Tm_Toniryx: hmm, sometimes04:36
abisenTm_T: yeah ... these little fadin / fadeout info on my tool bar in kicker04:36
Tm_T_Church_of_FoamY: I don't care about others, they are mostly pirate stuff anyway04:36
oniryxSquishyWaffle:did you check on supported hardware on the wiki ?04:37
Tm_Tabisen: hmm? I don't have any fades04:37
oniryxTm_T when you use it do you have a list of windows displayed ?04:37
SquishyWaffleoniryx: It was working two days ago :(04:37
oniryxSquishyWaffle: ouch04:37
Tm_Tabisen: ah! now I got it!04:37
oniryxSquishyWaffle: did you upgrade your kubuntu during this period ?04:37
Tm_Tabisen: wait a minute, I'll explain04:37
SquishyWaffleoniryx: "Sound server informational message: Error while initializing the sound driver: device /dev/dsp can't be opened (Permission Denied) The sound server will continue, using the null output device.04:38
Tm_Toniryx: yes04:38
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abisenTm_T: i mean when i mouse ovver to K it pops up and says click here and stuff04:38
abisenokay waiting04:38
SquishyWaffleoniryx: I did upgrade to KDE 3.4.1 but the sound was working until I restarted yesterday04:38
oniryxTm_T and you have an updated kubuntu ?04:38
Tm_Tabisen: you can control it in control centre04:38
Tm_Toniryx: yes04:38
abisenTm_T: from where i am not able to find it04:38
kanehello \sh 04:38
oniryxTm_T thx I try on a new user to see if it's a configuration probleme04:39
oniryx-e04:39
Tm_Tabisen: ok, rightclick in kicker -> configure panel -> 04:39
abisenok04:39
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Tm_Tabisen: -> appearance -> enable mouseover effects04:40
Tm_Tabisen: disable it, and they're gone04:40
oniryxSquishyWaffle: if you go to "control center"  > "Sound & Multimedia" > Sound System, disable and enable it04:40
oniryxSquishyWaffle: do you still have the error message ??04:40
abisenTm_T: okies cool done ... :) that was irritating04:40
SquishyWaffleoniryx: Yeah, I tried that :(04:40
Tm_Tabisen: heh, I have no troulbe with it, because I don't usually use any icons04:40
SquishyWaffledoing an ls  on /dev/dsp: crwxrwxr-x  1 root audio 14, 3 2005-06-06 18:49 /dev/ds04:41
SquishyWaffleprimary user is in audio group04:41
abisenTm_T: 10x 04:41
oniryxSquishyWaffle: ok, does alsamixer (in console) works ? (Esc to quit)04:42
SquishyWaffleoniryx: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: Permission denied04:42
Tm_Tabisen: http://www.kapsi.fi/~tm_travolta/kuvat/temp/foo/GratefulDead.png04:42
oniryxSquishyWaffle: ok, type in id04:42
SquishyWaffleoniryx: hrm, the audio group isn't showing there but it is in Kusers04:43
abisenTm_T: nice background04:43
\shhi kane 04:43
oniryxSquishyWaffle: ok, adduser _USER_ audio04:43
oniryxSquishyWaffle: restart a KDE session04:43
abisenTm_T: what iconset are you using !! i like that K of KDE04:43
SquishyWaffleoniryx: The user `gtaylor' is already a member of `audio'.04:44
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Tm_Tabisen: all edited/made by myself, backgrounds, iconsets...04:44
_Church_of_FoamYhey Tm_T i like the graphs at the right of your screen howd ya get them?04:44
SquishyWafflewell it looks like at least the Kuser GUI works, let me re-start KDE real quick04:44
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Tm_Tabisen: that K is our community logo04:44
Tm_T_Church_of_FoamY: torsmo.sf.net04:45
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abisenTm_T: nice touches that esp . the new mail icon.. and the K04:45
SquishyWaffleoniryx: Thanks for the help, the group was the problem04:46
SquishyWaffleoniryx: It just completly slipped my mind because I rarely have sound problems :)04:46
oniryxSquishyWaffle: no problem, unix group is a common issue04:46
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SquishyWaffleoniryx: Could the groups have been messed up during the upgrade?04:46
oniryxSquishyWaffle: nop, the update dont touch the group file04:47
oniryxSquishyWaffle: maybe the tool that you use has a problem04:48
SquishyWaffleoniryx: Possibly, I'll see if I can reproduce the problem04:48
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Tm_Tabisen: some "almost finally done" graphics: http://www.kapsi.fi/~tm_travolta/graphics/04:52
oniryxTm_T: thanks for your help I've spotted a bug !04:53
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Tm_Toniryx: whoa, nice04:54
oniryxTm_T: can you try this : 1. Alt+Tab to see that the list appear // 2. Control Center >> Desktop >> Window Behavior , change Focus policy to anything else except 'Click to Focus' "APPLY" and try Alt+Tab04:56
rodolfoTm_T: did you set a console as a background?04:58
Tm_Trodolfo: it's Eterm set to "stay below" etc04:59
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snowseal_hmm, i got something weird. only opengl within a window (on kde) gives me acceptible performace(35fps). full screen wont work well. (3 fps.)05:00
Tm_Toniryx: ok05:00
_Church_of_FoamYwell that sucks05:00
Tm_Toniryx: no it doesn't appear anymore05:01
Tm_Toniryx: it's feature05:01
Tm_TI think05:01
oniryxTm_T: dont think so, as there's a tick box under : Show window list while switching windows05:03
Tm_Taah05:03
Tm_Toniryx: then it's propably bug05:03
oniryxWoW that's cool : Help >> Report bug !!05:04
Tm_Tyeah05:04
oniryxfunky feature  !05:04
Tm_Toniryx: but what then if there's a bug ;)05:04
oniryxTm_T: what do you mean ?05:05
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_Church_of_FoamYhey TM_T it gives me an error when i try to compile it05:05
_Church_of_FoamYit tells me x is very much needed05:05
_Church_of_FoamYi thought i had x?/05:06
mrmanicdo you have the x development libraries?05:07
_Church_of_FoamYi don't know05:08
_Church_of_FoamY:(05:08
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mrmanicyou probably need them for compiling stuff05:09
mrmanicI don't know what the package name is, though.05:09
Riddell\sh: if you want to join the gcc4 recompilation marathon you'd be most welcome05:09
_Church_of_FoamYoh ok i don't either :p05:10
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_Church_of_FoamYum i think i did something wrong :(05:11
Tm_Theh05:12
_Church_of_FoamYi downloaded something called x window system05:12
Tm_Toniryx: I mean if that bug report thing have bug, how you report a bug? ;--P05:12
_Church_of_FoamYthinking it was for well torismo05:12
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oniryxTm_T: eheh05:13
_Church_of_FoamYthought thats what it needed when it said it needed x05:13
oniryxTm_T: seem that you were right, it's not possible to have window list with 'focus under mouse'05:13
Tm_Tok05:13
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_Church_of_FoamYwhere is sources.list located?05:15
Tm_T /etc/apt/05:16
_Church_of_FoamYthanx05:16
oniryxTm_TK: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4817205:17
Tm_Toniryx: oh :o05:17
Tm_Tyeah, I thought so05:18
oniryxTm_T: can you explain why "focus (strictly) under mouse" cannot have the window list ? I dont get it05:18
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Sho|efhHi guys. Say, how robust is Kubuntu/PPC for G4 PowerBooks? Can I recommend it?05:19
Tm_Toniryx: because you anyway select it with cursor, so there's no point to show window list05:20
_Church_of_FoamYdo i need to worry about installing that x window system?05:22
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mrmanicis it normal for xorg to take up 130 megs of memory?05:35
dreumahmy k3b is not letting me write dvds opc failed... and my synaptics wont recognize my install cd05:35
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monchygood question mrmanic, i've been wanting to know that as well05:39
oniryxTm_T: I see your point but disagree, Choosing Focus under mouse, and Cycling through windows on all desktop (I have 4 of them) displaying the list has a purpose,no?05:40
Tm_Toniryx: hmm, maybe05:40
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Sho|efhanyone have any experience with kubuntu on g4 powerbooks?05:47
oniryxTm_T: do you know where I can ask to the people involved with this development 'kwinoption' ?05:48
Tm_Toniryx: #kde-dev ?05:48
oniryxTm_T: doh! thx05:49
monchyTm_T: any reason why xorg uses up so much memory?05:53
Tm_Tmonchy: says who?05:53
monchysays me, it's currently using 167,363 of mine :\05:54
Tm_Tmonchy: I bet it's total use of all x related stuff running05:54
monchyoh ok, that would make sense :)05:54
Tm_Tyeah05:54
monchyoh one more thing ;p05:55
Tm_Tmonchy: you used top? yeah, it shows its own way, don't rely on it05:55
monchyah ok, good to know, thanks :)05:56
dreumahmy k3b is not letting me write dvds opc failed... and my synaptics wont recognize my install cd05:57
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Tm_Tdreumah: sounds like you have problem with your drive05:58
dreumahwhat do i do?06:00
Tm_Tfind the source of the trouble and fix it ;)06:03
dreumahi see, and how would i do that?06:03
monchytoo bad you can't dual-boot to windows and see if you can write dvd's there06:04
Tm_Tyou have another cd drive?06:04
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Tm_Thullo liz4rd 06:12
dreumahnah i dont06:14
dreumahi am on a laptop06:15
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error403hmm06:22
error403does anybody know how to turn off the touchpad driver for Kubuntu, when using a laptop?06:23
error403because i am getting erroneous inputs06:23
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dreumahuninstall synaptics06:26
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error403dreumah, how do i do that?06:40
error403apt-get?06:40
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_Church_of_FoamYk3b is so awsome ^_^06:46
_Church_of_FoamYi think it's easyer to use than roxio or nero06:46
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zAo^_Church_of_FoamY, [itty that it doenst burn MP3 out-of-the box on Kubuntu..06:52
_Church_of_FoamYthat sucks stupid protected format06:53
zAo^yeah..06:53
_Church_of_FoamYso what type of plugin do i need to burn mp3's to cd?06:55
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guiguihi, I just wanted to thank you, all the guys who built kubuntu. Thanks :)07:02
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abisenwhich package contains htsearch executable it's not in htdig ??07:03
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abiseni am trying to setup kdevelop and it's documentation indexing ... but it requires htsearch07:06
_Church_of_FoamYwhats the best PCI vid card for kubuntu?07:06
abisenPCI or PCIe07:07
_Church_of_FoamYPCI07:07
abisenfor PCIe go with ATI X600 All in Wonder Pro it's awesome07:07
_Church_of_FoamYi don't have an agp slot :(07:07
abisenPCI .. lookout for something like nvidia Riva TNT2 they were good07:07
_Church_of_FoamYok that works07:08
KaiLthere are some nVidia FX5200 for PCI07:09
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_Church_of_FoamYi seen one of those cards on ebay07:12
_Church_of_FoamYfor like 15 us07:12
Slackmanhi having some trouble with ubuntu with kde http://pastebin.com/29658007:13
Slackmanwas wondering if i could get some assistance07:13
Slackmanbasically there seems to be a problem with my apt-cache or something.07:14
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Slackmanthe pastebin entry is the error messages and what i've done to try and fix it to no avail07:14
Tm_Toh FUCK!07:16
Tm_Tagain, I lost my KDED07:16
_Church_of_FoamYouch07:16
_Church_of_FoamY>.<07:16
Tm_Tnouuu ht07:16
Tm_T=)07:16
Tm_Tso I don't test kopete, I don't need it anyway =)07:16
_Church_of_FoamYlol07:16
_Church_of_FoamYi found a new messenger07:17
_Church_of_FoamYcalled sim07:17
_Church_of_FoamYi think it's neat07:17
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Slackmanerm, which sources are you guys using ?07:20
slicslakwhat is the latest kernel source w/ ubuntu patches? 07:21
philipacamaniacSlackman: add this source: deb http://kubuntu.org/ hoary-updates main07:22
philipacamaniacit has the fixed kdelibs package07:22
Slackmanphilipacamaniac, instead of my other source? or as well07:22
philipacamaniacas well07:23
Slackmanok, thanks. 07:23
Slackmanthis is an Ubuntu machine made into a kubuntu machine :)07:23
philipacamaniaccool07:23
slicslakoh is that what you meant.  i'm upgrading my kernel right now.   lol07:23
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Slackmanphilipacamaniac, Err http://kubuntu.org hoary-updates/main Packages07:26
Slackman  404 Not Found07:26
philipacamaniacno /07:26
monchyit works07:26
philipacamaniachoary-updates main07:26
monchyjust used it07:27
monchyoh cool theres a lavalamp screensaver07:27
Slackmanerm...in my sources it doesn't have the / though...this is odd07:27
philipacamaniaclet me try it07:27
Slackmanhmm i think i have some extra crap at the top...can some one post the first line of their sources list07:28
philipacamaniacworked like a charm...07:28
Slackmanyeh i think there is something in my sources..i have this at the top07:29
Slackmandeb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Preview powerpc Binary-1 (20050310)] / hoary main restricted07:29
philipacamaniacwell, hmm... you're on PPC07:30
philipacamaniacthat doesn't solve the 404, but the kdelibs don't have an updated package on PPC07:30
philipacamaniacI think07:30
philipacamaniacvisit http://kubuntu.org/dists/hoary-updates/main/ in your web browser07:30
Slackmanyeh that worked ok in Firefox07:31
philipacamaniacnote the absence of a ppc directory07:31
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philipacamaniacRiddell: amu: are there kdelibs 3.4 updates for ppc architecture?07:32
Slackmanphilipacamaniac, ok i copy and pasted your link above, added it to the end of my sources list but i still get a 404...07:34
SlackmanIgn http://kubuntu.org hoary-updates/main Packages07:34
SlackmanErr http://kubuntu.org hoary-updates/main Packages07:34
Slackman  404 Not Found07:34
philipacamaniaccan you pastebin your sources.list ?07:34
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Slackmanyeh brb07:36
Riddellphilipacamaniac: yes, hang on07:36
Slackmanhttp://pastebin.com/29659907:37
philipacamaniacSlackman: here is mine http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/5Rf6ak96.html07:39
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philipacamaniacslackman: I'm not seeing a problem with your sources07:41
Riddellphilipacamaniac: deb http://dev.kubuntu.org.uk/~jr/kubuntu/ppc/frode.kde.no/hoary-updates/ppc/kde341 ./07:42
Slackmanphilipacamaniac, well i guess thats a good thing, i'm not going nuts07:42
philipacamaniacRiddell: thanks!07:42
philipacamaniacRiddell: actually, those are 3.4.1, you don't happen to have 3.4 ?07:43
Riddellphilipacamaniac: 3.4 is in hoary07:43
Riddell3.4.1 contains all the updates07:44
philipacamaniacRiddell: but wasn't there an fixed kdelibs package?07:44
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Slackmanphilipacamaniac, maybe my nameservers are just fscked07:44
philipacamaniacSlackman: if you feel like upgrading to KDE 3.4.1 (I'm using it!) then use the link Riddell pasted07:45
philipacamaniacSlackman: 3.4.1 shouldn't have any installation issues (at least it didn't on x86)07:46
Slackmanok thanks07:47
Slackmanjust download the packages, or use apt?07:47
philipacamaniacyou can/should use apt07:48
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philipacamaniachas anyone got a fix for gmail/konqueror, or is that a hopeless cause?07:52
Slackmanphilipacamaniac, i've added the source, run apt-get update and it seems to have worked07:53
Slackmanphilipacamaniac, what do i type next?07:53
Riddellphilipacamaniac: what's the problem?07:54
philipacamaniacRiddell: regarding gmail, or regarding kdelibs?07:55
philipacamaniacSlackman: if you haven't already, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop07:55
philipacamaniacSlackman: if you have KDE, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (and take a coffee break)07:56
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Slackmandamn i still get The following packages have unmet dependencies:07:57
Slackman  kdelibs: Depends: kdelibs-data (>= 4:3.4.0-0ubuntu3.2) but 4:3.4.0-0ubuntu3.1 is installed07:57
SlackmanE: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.07:57
Slackmaneven with dist upgrade07:57
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theD3viLHow to set up my KDE to iso-8859-2 fonts? .. or win-1250 ? =/07:58
Riddellphilipacamaniac: gmail07:58
RiddelltheD3viL: dpkg-reconfigure locale07:59
bigbill52aanyone else experiencing xserver crashes with kde...it crashes completely..leaving a screen filled with blinking gray boxes..no keyboard, no mouse...but other programs still work in background..and you can restart the puter by pressing the on/off switch once07:59
philipacamaniacSlackman: sudo apt-get -f install07:59
RiddellSlackman: try explicitly installing kdelibs-data07:59
bigbill52actrl-alt-backspace does not work...nor does any other key combination...08:00
philipacamaniacRIddell: gmail's full interface (heavy javascript, I assume) doesn't work... Gmail claims "For a better browsing experience, use a fully supported browser"... I'm forced to use Basic HTML mode08:00
philipacamaniacbigbill52a: if keyboard locks, then it is probably a problem with x (which usually tends to be driver issues)08:01
philipacamaniacRiddell: the Contact autocomplete in the To: and Cc: fields doesn't work in Basic HTML mode08:02
bigbill52ait fails whether or not fglrx is installed and does not seem to affect gnome or xfce..unless i am using a kde program 08:02
Riddellphilipacamaniac: try chaning the agent to Safari08:03
philipacamaniacRiddell: good idea, I'll try that...08:03
bigbill52athe on/off switch still works...so you do not have force a restart08:03
bigbill52aand music plays in the background...lol08:04
bigbill52ai have reinstalled ubuntu..with no kde files and the desktop is stable08:05
bigbill52asame with xfce08:05
bigbill52aso i am pretty sure the crashes are related to kde08:05
bigbill52abut i like kde...so i have to wait till i find a solution..unless i want a lot of xserver crashes08:06
bigbill52ais it just me or anyone else experiencing this?08:07
philipacamaniacRiddell: Okay, login worked and put me in standard "full" Gmail, but no links worked... I'll try some other UA's08:08
bigbill52aeven burning cds continue until they pop out completed...so it doesnt crash the kernel08:08
theD3viLRiddell,  locale isnt installed ? /=08:10
bobbydbigbill52a: can you ssh to it when it's crashed?08:10
bigbill52ahow do you do that?08:11
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bigbill52ayou cant use the keyboard at all08:12
bigbill52actrl-alt-f1 etc08:12
philipacamaniacbigbill52a: he means use another computer and remotely login, using ssh08:12
bigbill52ai dont have that capability..but i would think that you could..since the kernal is still operating08:13
bigbill52ano other computer08:13
bigbill52ait is not a hard crash..just an xserver crash..since you can halt the system with a press of the on/off switch08:15
bigbill52ait takes about 20-30 seconds for the computer to shut down once you press it08:15
philipacamaniacbigbill52a: have you searched the forums, http://www.ubuntuforums.org08:15
bigbill52ai have this thread on there as well08:16
philipacamaniacnice...08:16
bigbill52aat first didnt know the cause...kde...bu i have figured that it must me a kde file causing the crashes08:16
bigbill52asince i have a stable system without any kde08:17
philipacamaniacwith kde still installed, are you able to use gnome and/or xfce?08:17
bigbill52ayes..but if you use a kde program or the windows manager...eventually the xserver will crash08:18
bigbill52akde windows manager08:18
philipacamaniacso, if you run k3b or konqueror under gnome, eventually x will crash?08:18
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bigbill52aif you use even one program...crash probability rises rapidly08:19
bigbill52ayes08:19
bigbill52aor even any other kde program08:19
bigbill52ai like some of the games...lol08:19
philipacamaniachmm...08:19
stijntest08:19
stijnjust installed kubuntu, running it for 2 minutes, looks fine :)08:20
philipacamaniacstijn: that's excellent08:20
philipacamaniacanother convert...08:20
bigbill52amy sources.list is the one from the unofficial guide08:20
stijneven my wireless card is working! that really suprised me, I prefer this distro over arch L.08:21
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bigbill52abrb08:21
philipacamaniacRiddell: Gmail standard is a no go, but I think it is more the fault of Gmail than Konqui. Apparently, when they detect an IE6 user agent, they use ActiveX! Perhaps they need to work on the settings for the Konqueror User-Agent. Still, I will search bugs.kde.org for anything related08:23
bigbill52ai am back...08:25
philipacamaniacbigbill52a: you should leave unofficial sources commented-out... also, have you upgraded to KDE 3.4.108:26
bigbill52ano kde at present08:26
philipacamaniacwhen you were experiencing this problem, was it KDE 3.4 or 3.4.108:28
bigbill52anot sure...i think that i was completely upgraded though08:28
bigbill52ado you mean the backports?08:28
bigbill52afor commenting out?08:29
bigbill52ai did the kubuntu thing08:29
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theD3viLIs konqueror good for browsing?08:29
philipacamaniacbigbill: You can keep backports, but it isn't supported... did you add deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary-updates main08:30
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philipacamaniactheD3vil: I like it, it seems about as fast as Firefox, and it is integrated into the system (bookmarks, KDE wallet, dialogues, etc.)08:31
bigbill52ajust cut and pasted it into my sources.list08:31
bigbill52aright now08:31
philipacamaniactheD3vil: however, there are some important sites that don't work yet, such as full Gmail08:31
bigbill52aanything else that i should add08:32
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theD3viLphilipacamaniac, yes... i see08:32
magnusonanyone run kubuntu live?08:32
yourghetekneed a hint here... its sudo (duh...) dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg?08:32
theD3viLphilipacamaniac, what about spams?08:32
philipacamaniacbigbill52a: no, you should apt-get update && apt-get install kubuntu-desktop && apt-get dist-upgrade08:33
bigbill52alet me try it...thanks for the tip08:33
philipacamaniactheD3vil: what do you mean spams?08:33
yourghetekno thats not it...08:33
yourghetekanybody remember the xserver reconfigure line?08:34
theD3viLphilipacamaniac, hm... windows are opening.. - spams ;) ..08:34
theD3viLsry my english bad very =] 08:35
philipacamaniactheD3vil: no prob, those are called "pop-up windows"08:35
theD3viLyes..08:35
theD3viLno problems with pop-up windows??08:35
theD3viLnice..08:35
bigbill52ait is doing its thing08:37
bigbill52ai will see if i have crashes..at least i know where they are coming from08:37
bigbill52ai dont think that i had that entry for my sources list before08:38
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bigbill52ais there a way to use xwindows on computers with 64 megs of ram...?08:41
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yourghetekoops08:41
bigbill52alive cd that is08:42
yourgheteki thought server isntalls had kde...08:42
yourghetekwhat packages do i need from a server install just to get into kde?08:42
philipacamaniacyourghetek: server installation means just the barebones, no x windows08:42
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philipacamaniacyourghetek: kubuntu-desktop08:42
uniqyourghetek: arts, kdelibs, kdebase and X i guess. (with all their depends).08:43
philipacamaniacbigbill52a: for any live cd, since everything is loaded into ram, you really should have 256MB or more...08:43
yourghetekyeah i wanna make this a very slim install08:43
yourghetekok08:43
yourghetekdoing kubuntu-desktop08:44
bigbill52aworks fine with 128...but 64 just hangs..but i was wondering if there was a swap setting i could use..on those computers..use the system rescue cd rather than live cd...and do all my stuff from the command line....08:44
bigbill52a(transferring personal files to safe location on dead windows machines..lol)08:45
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_ryan....hi08:49
yourghetekno ryan... no08:50
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yourghetekno hal0... no08:50
hal0=o08:51
yourghetek0_o08:51
hal0what if i said please?08:51
yourghetekthen ok08:51
hal0i need help getting the TV out to work with my nvidia GF308:52
bigbill52awill report back if konqueror causes crash08:52
philipacamaniacbigbill: sounds goof08:53
philipacamaniac*good08:53
bigbill52abecause gnome has been stable since installl.so it would have to be the kde programs08:54
yourgheteki do the server install and kubuntu-desktop b/c i want a slim installation and now i see it downloading and installing openoffice?! rubbish!08:55
hal0is there something i can do to switch from TV, to monitor, and back?  like an nividia control panel or some BS?08:56
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philipacamaniacyourghetek: kubuntu-desktop is a metapackage... if you want a slim KDE install, erm... goodluck... you can always easily remove anything once it is finished08:57
yourghetekhaha erm... *giggling* good luck...08:57
yourghetekis it harder than i anticipated?08:57
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hal0KDE isnt really meant to be *slim* I think.08:58
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yourghetekmmm08:58
philipacamaniacyourghetek: just start apt-get removing stuff once the install is done08:58
yourghetekyeah08:58
yourgheteki guess i will do it that way08:59
yourghetekwindows 2000, windows xp, kubuntu sharing a single 10gb hd.. ouch08:59
hal0ouch indeed.08:59
yourgheteknot my system, its for a friend08:59
philipacamaniacI would donate gigs to you if I could09:00
philipacamaniacwhy W2K?09:00
yourghetekvery stable09:00
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philipacamaniacso is WinXP pro, IMHO... and remember that W2K is losing support this year09:01
_Church_of_FoamyYAY i fixed my video card ^_^09:01
philipacamaniacand besides, you should strip down Windoze, not Kubuntu  :)09:01
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hal0agreed. :)09:02
Church_of_Foamyhad to solder a new gpu in to it but it works ^_^09:02
yourghetekxp for adobe premiere pro09:02
philipacamaniacFoamy: ???!!!????!!!!09:02
Church_of_Foamy?09:03
philipacamaniacyou soldered a gpu to a card and it worked?09:03
Church_of_Foamyyup ^_^09:03
philipacamaniacI have very bad luck with soldering irons and computers09:03
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Church_of_Foamywhere is fstab found?09:04
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Church_of_Foamyi have to put my storage drive into it so it'll mount09:04
philipacamaniac"/etc/fstab"09:04
Church_of_Foamyyea i have a habbit of stripping chips from old hardware09:04
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Church_of_Foamywhats the editor in kubuntu?09:05
philipacamaniackate, kwrite or kedit09:05
Church_of_Foamyfor editing fstab?09:05
hal0Kate09:05
Church_of_Foamyok09:05
Church_of_Foamyhow do i edit my fstab on a new install of kubuntu?09:07
Church_of_Foamyit's giving me a weard error09:07
philipacamaniackdesu kate /etc/fstab09:07
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yourghetekin knome? sudo nano /etc/fstab09:09
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hal0If I installed stuff from Synaptic, how do I find out how to access it?  -  In this case, I installed nvidia card stuff, and when I do a search, it gives me 2 folders, neither of which I know what to do with.09:10
yourghetekjust add em to your menu09:10
hal0What do I add?  the folders?09:11
yourghetekgo to konqueror09:11
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hal0kay..09:11
philipacamaniacwhen you install programs, they are automagically added to your menu09:11
yourghetekclick on applications09:11
yourghetekand there is a list of your applications09:12
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yourghetekphilipacamaniac im not sure if all the nvidia stuff goes in the menus09:12
hal0it gives me sub folders, and i dunno where it put it :-\09:12
yourghetektry and run them from konsole09:13
hal0run what?  i've got 2 nvidia folders with nothing that I recognize in either of them09:13
yourghetek:-/09:14
yourgheteknot sure what you did09:14
hal0usr/X11R5/lib/nvidia has 2 AR Archives.09:14
hal0and usr/lib/nvidia has tls_test, which is an executable, and 2 shared library files09:15
yourghetekmmm09:15
yourghetekim on a fx50009:16
yourghetekand all my utils are in my menu09:16
buzstupid bloody athlon64 fried already09:16
yourghetekreally? wow09:16
hal0under what submenu ?09:16
hal0utilities?09:16
buzlived for less than one month09:16
buzand i actually undervolted the thing09:17
buzHTF it could go bad I can't figure out09:17
Church_of_Foamyok i have a question09:17
Church_of_Foamyhow do i put my sotrage driver in fstab09:18
monchythat sucks buz, sorry to hear09:18
Church_of_Foamystorage drive i mean09:18
buzmhh i guess its the cpu anyway09:18
hal0you dont put the driver in fstab - you tell it where to look/mount the drive in fstab I think.09:18
Church_of_Foamyit is hooked up to the secondary ide channell has a slave09:18
buzasus' weird post speeking (actually has the bios TALK to you) feature says so at least09:18
buzscreen doesnt show anything anymore09:18
Church_of_Foamyyes but i don't know where09:18
Church_of_Foamyi have fstab open i just don't know how to put the info in09:19
Church_of_Foamyi think it's called hdd09:19
monchywasn't the FX-55 i hope lol09:19
Church_of_Foamybut i'm not shure :(09:19
philipacamaniacFoamy: how many partitions on it, and what filesystem is it using?09:20
yourghetekwhoa... buz, your mobo talks?09:20
buzyeah09:20
Church_of_Foamyone partition and it's ext309:20
buzi thought it was completely useless but alas its not09:20
oniryxanybody using a DELL LATITUDE C400 ??09:20
buznah was a less than one month old 3000+09:21
buzstill sucks09:21
buzrma is a pain 09:21
yourghetekyour right09:21
yourghetekforget rma and give me that mobo09:21
buzna 09:21
yourghetekhaha09:21
Church_of_Foamyone partition and it's ext309:21
buzi think most new asus boards do that09:21
buzactually09:21
buzfriend of mines even complained when he didnt stick the agp card in right away09:21
philipacamaniacFoamy: /dev/hdd0 /mnt/somefoldername ext3 defaults 0 009:22
philipacamaniacbut you'll need to mkdir /mnt/somefoldername09:22
philipacamaniacsorry did I say hdd0, I think I meant hdd109:22
Church_of_Foamyyea it called storage09:23
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Church_of_Foamyso /mnt/storage?09:23
philipacamaniacyup09:23
Church_of_Foamyok09:23
Church_of_Foamyok09:24
philipacamaniac? ok?09:25
yourghetekok09:25
philipacamaniacI guess he rebooted09:25
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monchyoh dear god pauly shore09:30
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_Church_of_Foamyit says the mount point dosent exist09:34
_Church_of_Foamy:(09:34
philipacamaniacokay so, /dev/hdd1 isn't it09:35
_Church_of_Foamyheres my fstab  http://pastebin.com/29669109:35
_Church_of_Foamyi thought it was09:36
_Church_of_Foamyit's a slave to my cdrom on the secondary ide channel09:36
_Church_of_Foamyi shoulda backed up my fstab09:37
_Church_of_Foamy>.<09:37
_Church_of_Foamyany ideas?09:37
dreumahok i am trying to burn dvds but its not working, it keeps telling me there is an OPC error09:39
philipacamaniacFoamy: hold a sec09:39
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philipacamaniac_Church_of_Foamy: did you create the /mnt/storage directory?09:43
philipacamaniacyou have to sudo mkdir /mnt/storage09:43
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philipacamaniacbrb09:54
Slackmanphilipacamaniac, sorry to bug you again..i'm pretty stuck..i can't remove kde, i can't upgrade , forcefully or otherwise 09:57
Slackmanall i get is09:57
Slackmandpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.4.1-0ubuntu0hoary1_all.deb (--unpack):09:57
Slackman trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/default.kde', which is also in package knetworkconf09:57
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uniqslackman: make sure you've enabled hoary-updates.10:00
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philipacamaniacSlackman: try sudo apt-get remove knetworkconf10:10
Slackmanphilipacamaniac, The following packages have unmet dependencies:10:11
Slackman  kdelibs: Depends: kdelibs-data (>= 4:3.4.0-0ubuntu3.2) but 4:3.4.0-0ubuntu3.1 is to be installed10:11
Slackmanthats when i sudo apt-get remove knetworkconf10:12
Slackmanshould i try with dpkg?10:12
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philipacamaniacmaybe try sudo apt-get remove kdelibs-data kdelibs10:13
uniqno no no.10:14
philipacamaniac?10:14
Slackmansame deal sorry10:14
uniqjust install the newest knetworkconf from hoary-updates10:14
philipacamaniacthat's what I told him to do... but it apparently didn't work10:14
Slackmannah i get the same thing when ever i try and use apt10:14
Slackmanremove, upgrade, install...all the same error10:15
uniqslackman: what does 'apt-cache policy knetworkconf' say? 10:15
Slackmanerm...there is a few lines i'll paste bin10:15
uniqthe new knetworkconf should be in hoary-updates.. 10:15
Slackmanhttp://pastebin.com/29670710:17
uniqok.. then it's just in breezy and on kubuntu.org10:18
philipacamaniacSlackman: can you post your sources.list one more time10:18
Slackmanyeh np,10:18
uniqadd 'deb http://kubuntu.org/ hoary-updates main' to it10:20
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Slackmanuniq, i'm on PPC. i think we tried this earlier with philipacamaniac 10:21
Slackmanerm..pastebin is being a bit slow..gotta find another bin10:21
philipacamaniacgoogle nopaste10:22
uniqok..no problem i'm on ppc too.. i could give you a package.10:22
uniqhttp://frode.kde.no/hoary-updates/ppc/knetworkconf/10:22
Slackmanhttp://pastebin.ca/1368510:22
uniqdownload the .deb and dpkg -i <package>10:23
philipacamaniacaha! uniq, that's what I was trying to find before10:23
uniqhttp://frode.kde.no/hoary-updates/ppc/ 10:23
Slackmanok i'll try that thanks.... dpkg -i or update?10:24
uniqfor most of my ppc stuff.. not apt-getable. to make people use the official repos.10:24
uniqslackman: dpkg -i10:24
Slackmanok :)10:24
uniqand then you can finish all the other stuff with apt-get -u dist-upgrade or something.10:25
Slackmanerm... dep problems libstdc++610:25
Slackmanand kdelibs4c2 etc..10:26
uniqook. that's for breezy then.. give me a few min.10:26
Slackmank. i'm really sorry guys. i'm not sure how i managed to get this borked10:27
uniqit's not your fault.. it's a bug.10:27
Slackmanuniq,heh..no one else seems to have the bug :)10:27
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uniqthen they use kubuntu.org sources i guess.. and it's only missing ppc support. i'll poke someone to get that fixed.10:28
Slackmanok thanks alot uniq and philipacamaniac 10:29
uniqpackage building just han on a few more minutes.10:30
Slackmank, np10:32
Slackmani am here for a while if you are..no rush10:32
othernoobhow do i burn a bin and cue in k3b ?10:33
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_Church_of_Foamysomething happend to my storage media10:41
_Church_of_Foamyi can't find any of my hard drives :(10:41
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_Church_of_Foamynevermind10:44
_Church_of_Foamyi fixed it ^_^10:44
monchyooo san andreas is out now10:46
othernoobchurchy, any news ?10:48
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_Church_of_Foamyin kynaptic what does "upgrade all pacages" maean/do?10:50
othernoobit upgrades all packages ?10:51
_Church_of_Foamyoh ok10:51
Slackmanuniq, thank you. Its now letting me upgrade to 3.4.1 i think...it seems to be working anyway.10:52
_Church_of_Foamyum how to get synaptic to run with kubuntu?10:52
Slackmanuniq, i really appreciate your help10:52
_Church_of_Foamyi installed from the kubuntu cd 10:52
_Church_of_Foamyi don't like kynaptic it dosent give you the program definitions10:53
uniqslackman:great I haven't even uploaded the new .deb yetit's on it 's way now.. you can find it at http://frode.kde.no/hoary-updates/ppc/knetworkconf  now.10:53
uniqit's just been replaced.10:53
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laser_tkanybody know how this tooltip can disable??10:55
laser_tkhttp://koti.mbnet.fi/laser_tk/kde.jpg10:55
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heidiehhh... 10:57
heidiIs this a channel thing? 10:58
laser_tkjes10:58
heidiahh I just install this thing, and I just dont get any Idea how to browse at the internet.. .:S10:59
heidigot any clues?10:59
laser_tk??10:59
matsopen a browser?10:59
heidiyehhh ... 11:00
opiKonqueror?11:00
monchyfirefox, opera, etc etc etc11:00
opitry third icon on the doc11:00
heidijeh... how does it work?11:00
opiyou click it11:01
matsheidi: bare skriv i den. www.dagbladet.no f.eks ;) (sorry for norwegian :) )11:01
uniqlaser_tk: right click on the panel -> configuer panel -> the tab at the right. (can't figure out the english translation right now) -> zoom icons on mouse over, or something like that.11:01
dreumahhave you used the internet before?11:01
opithe window popup, you enter URL into URL-box and off you go11:01
uniqmore norwegians :] 11:01
matsuniq: :-) hello11:02
uniqhi.11:02
opimaybe Kubuntu means in Norwegian: FreeLoveFromTheComputer? ;D11:03
gravisn8 all11:03
matsopi: haha - you made a funney ;)11:03
laser_tkuniq: Enable icon mouseover effects.. yup, that's it11:03
laser_tkuniq: thanks11:03
uniqno problem :)11:04
laser_tki have been search that thing always on taskbar options11:05
_Church_of_Foamyanyone know how to get synaptic in kubuntu?11:06
Riddell_Church_of_Foamy: use kynaptic to install it11:06
opiapt-get install synaptic?11:06
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opior get KPackage ;)11:06
_Church_of_Foamyit dosen't give you the file discription11:06
_Church_of_Foamyi can't belve that kde is quicker on my system than gnome11:07
_Church_of_FoamyO_o11:08
opiit is11:08
_Church_of_Foamyyea11:08
opiI'm running Kubuntu on P2/400 and it's working fine11:08
opiyou would rather not see Gnome here11:08
_Church_of_Foamyi had ubuntu installed with KDE and it was kinda doggy11:08
_Church_of_Foamyso i downloaded the kubuntu iso and installed and it runs peachy now ^_^11:08
opiinstead of Synaptic, try to use KPackage11:09
opiat least it's QT based, so you will not get all the GTK stuff for now :-P11:09
_Church_of_Foamyi looked for it in my kbar but i don't ahve it :(11:09
opiapt-get into it :P11:10
opiI have it, but I can renember if I apt-get it11:10
opiit's in System here11:11
_Church_of_Foamyi have kynaptic11:11
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opithen get it from Kynaptic :)11:12
_Church_of_Foamythe only reason i don't like kynaptic is it dosen't tell you what the file is11:12
opijust try it11:13
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casperHey could anybody help me? I've got a problem with JuK (and amarok for that matter). At the start of each track theres a small "skit" and the lengths of the songs are not correct11:13
opicasper: turn off the fade out/cross over effect maybe?11:14
caspernah it's not that, tried that already11:14
caspertried playing with the sound settings in the control center too11:14
_Church_of_Foamyhow can i get the binary clock for kubuntu?11:14
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opiright on the panel, get the clock applet11:15
opiright on the applet, set it up :P11:15
casperanybody?11:16
_Church_of_Foamynope it's not there11:16
uniqcasper: which engine do you use in amarok? 11:16
_Church_of_Foamythe normal clock is but the binary isen't11:16
opiah11:16
opibinary11:16
opilike 1/011:16
uniqI use arts with no problems, I've heard others have to use xine-engine to have success.11:16
opiI don't think we have one :)11:16
casperuniq: none apparently11:17
uniqcasper: try to install akode-mpeg and select the arts engine.11:18
casperfrom kynaptic?11:19
uniqyes, you can use kynaptic.11:19
_Church_of_Foamyyea11:20
casperit says i've got akode installed11:20
_Church_of_Foamytheres a binary clock that you can put in the kbar11:20
_Church_of_Foamyi had it when i had installed kubuntu with the kde11:20
_Church_of_Foamyubuntu i mean11:20
opi_Church_of_Foamy: I'm not up-to-date with all the eyecandy :-)11:20
_Church_of_Foamyoh lol11:20
_Church_of_Foamyi like the amor applet11:21
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_Church_of_Foamykinda like having a virtual pet11:21
_Church_of_Foamythat ya don't have to feed ^_^11:21
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Kinpiis there a seperate channel for the live version?11:21
Dentthere's an amor applet?11:21
Dentheh11:21
Latemhmm I tried kubuntu live CD, and my fonts were huge11:22
Denti saw that once11:22
opiKinpi: haa11:22
Latemon 2 different comps11:22
Dent(amor), it was neat11:22
opiLatem: maybe it was a DPI problem?11:22
Kinpiopi> what? lol there could be11:22
casperhow do i run akode?11:22
Kinpii ask b/c i'm trying to burn a cd on my laptop, but burn it from the live cd11:22
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casperuniq: how do i run akode?11:23
Latemhow would i try and fix that with live CD, just to see if that is the problem?11:23
Kinpianyone know if that's possible or how?11:23
spiraldoes anyone here know wether it should be possible to install konversation 0.18 under hoary via a .deb ?11:23
motaboycasper: akode is a multimedia library11:24
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othernoobhow many partitions does kubuntu create when you choose automatic partitioning during installation ?11:25
opiKinpi: I haven't use Kubuntu-LiveCD, but I can advie you something11:25
opiothernoob: 3, IIRC 11:25
opi /home /usr and /11:25
othernoobIIRC ?11:25
opiif I recall clearly11:25
uniqccayou don't run it, it's loaded automagicaly :)11:25
othernooband no /boot ?11:25
othernoobno /swap ?11:25
opiswap's not a partition in sens of user-data-storage11:26
opithat's why I didn't named it :P11:26
othernoobtrue..11:26
othernoobbut /boot is one ;)11:26
opi;)11:26
opiI don't renember then11:26
caspermotaboy: you have any idea why i get skits in the start of every song in both amarok and JuK, and at the same time the song-length is wrong?11:26
opiKinpi: you can try Slax live-cd, it's KDE based, too -- but you can call it with copy2ram kernel parametr and then you'll be able to switch CDs11:27
motaboycasper: with akode engine?11:27
motaboycasper: did you taked a look at bugs.kde.org or reported it?11:27
caspermotaboy: in amarok i can only chose one: aRts11:27
motaboycasper: so it's not akode related11:27
caspermotaboy: no idea11:28
motaboycasper: very probably it's an arts problem11:28
motaboycasper: you can try using gstreamer or akode engine11:28
caspermotaboy: how do i get those?11:29
Kinpithanks opi11:29
motaboys/akode/xine11:29
opiKinpi: http://slax.linux-live.org IIRC11:29
motaboycasper: apt-get install amarok-<TAB><TAB> (with bash completion)11:29
Kinpiopi> that's it, yep11:30
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_Church_of_Foamywhats the command to find the dependancy for a program that faild to install?11:33
uniqapt-cache depends <package>11:34
_Church_of_Foamydoesen't work :(11:35
_Church_of_Foamywhats the dependancy for cedega?11:35
uniqheh.. good question I don't know.11:36
_Church_of_Foamyok11:36
caspermotaboy: reinstalled it, still no good11:37
motaboycasper: have you tried changing engine?11:38
motaboycasper: for example try the xine one11:38
motaboycasper: and also try disabling arts11:38
caspermotaboy: i can only chose one in the menu11:38
caspermotaboy: how do i disable arts?11:38
motaboycasper: in the control center11:38
motaboycasper: have you restarted amarok11:39
motaboy?11:39
caspermotaboy: yea11:39
_Church_of_Foamyi got ubuntu to run on a mac 5400/180 ^_^11:39
motaboycasper: fully restarted? the tray icon disappeared?11:39
caspermotaboy: i cant find arts in the control center11:39
caspermotaboy: yea11:40
motaboycasper: ps -ef | grep amarok is empty?11:40
motaboycasper: Sound e multimedia ->Sound System11:40
opibtw: what's a sound recorder in KDE?11:41
caspermotaboy: what do you mean by emty?11:41
caspermotaboy: can't find arts there....11:41
motaboycasper: no amarok processes (except grep) running11:41
motaboycasper: arts IS the sound system11:41
caspermotaboy: heh, my bad11:41
motaboycasper: it's the both the soft mixing deamon and an API for programs11:42
caspermotaboy: turned of the sound system, still no good11:43
motaboycasper: make some experiments, it can work well11:43
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caspermotaboy: could it be the mp3 decoder?11:44
motaboycasper: dunno, it depends on the engine you're using11:45
motaboycasper: just search the net, bugs.kde.org  or anything other. it can be everything and you have to nail it down11:45
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