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| jsgotangco | morning | 03:33 |
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| jsgotangco | people im cleaning up global.ent and standardizing on ubuntu.com instead of ubuntulinux.org whenever possible | 04:09 |
| jsgotangco | jiyuu0, do you have a gpg key? | 04:10 |
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| jsgotangco | brb | 04:51 |
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| jsgotangco | venda, hi | 08:09 |
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| jsgotangco | oh well | 08:30 |
| jsgotangco | mdke, ping? | 09:20 |
| jsgotangco | mdke, we have a BIG problem | 10:10 |
| jsgotangco | W$%^$%@# | 10:11 |
| mdke | hi | 11:42 |
| mdke | jsgotangco, pong | 11:42 |
| mdke | yes we do | 11:43 |
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| jsgotangco | we're screwed | 12:00 |
| jsgotangco | mdke, what you reckon we do for starters | 12:01 |
| mdke | jsgotangco, have you read the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy | 12:01 |
| mdke | don't panic | 12:01 |
| jsgotangco | im not | 12:02 |
| mdke | there are a few things we can do | 12:02 |
| jsgotangco | but we don't have plan b at the moment | 12:02 |
| mdke | we can talk to sabdfl or silbs maybe | 12:03 |
| mdke | and maybe I will ring froud later | 12:03 |
| jsgotangco | we can start on the cc meeting later | 12:03 |
| mdke | you mean in the meeting? | 12:03 |
| jsgotangco | well | 12:03 |
| jsgotangco | we we can't raise this stuff | 12:03 |
| jsgotangco | we have to have a meeting on our own | 12:03 |
| jsgotangco | we need jeffsh as well | 12:04 |
| jsgotangco | hmm | 12:04 |
| mdke | give it a bit of time | 12:04 |
| Burgundavia | jsgotangco, what is the big issue? | 12:04 |
| mdke | we can organise a meeting | 12:04 |
| mdke | Burgundavia, froud has quit again | 12:04 |
| Burgundavia | ah, I seee | 12:04 |
| jsgotangco | i think he's quitting for good | 12:04 |
| mdke | dunno | 12:05 |
| mdke | jsgotangco, these things can happen i guess | 12:05 |
| jsgotangco | it happens | 12:05 |
| jsgotangco | but we don't have plan B at the moment | 12:06 |
| mdke | no | 12:06 |
| mdke | and until canonical takes and interest in the docteam it will probably keep happening | 12:06 |
| Burgundavia | please read the last post on this page | 12:06 |
| Burgundavia | http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3734&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15&sid=c52f2a1f8c4c40598f4557f5341e5a37 | 12:06 |
| Burgundavia | it is quite relevant right now | 12:06 |
| mdke | ok | 12:06 |
| jsgotangco | hold on | 12:06 |
| mdke | Burgundavia, sure that's right | 12:07 |
| mdke | but it wasn't a lack of enthusiasm for the project in this case | 12:07 |
| jsgotangco | people come and go that's for sure | 12:07 |
| jsgotangco | right | 12:07 |
| jsgotangco | we can still continue with our roadmap though | 12:08 |
| jsgotangco | and deliver what we've been doing for now | 12:08 |
| mdke | yeah | 12:08 |
| mdke | we may have to refocus a little | 12:08 |
| jsgotangco | we should organise a meeting | 12:09 |
| jsgotangco | i'll pull out the agenda as well as clean up the roadmap | 12:10 |
| jsgotangco | now more than ever, we'll need more committers | 12:10 |
| mdke | i think we should discuss this with jdub | 12:10 |
| jsgotangco | we'll invite jdub as well | 12:10 |
| mdke | ok | 12:10 |
| Burgundavia | jsgotangco, if you do the grunt work on organizing, I am willing to assist you, but I cannot take the lead on this | 12:10 |
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| jsgotangco | Burgundavia, i don't mind, i'll organise stuff at the moment, we need to focus on the current roadmap | 12:11 |
| mdke | thing about trying to corner mark after the meeting tonight, if he turns up, is that it will be about midnight | 12:11 |
| Burgundavia | I will be asleep, sorry | 12:12 |
| mdke | Burgundavia, how did the job hunting go btw? | 12:12 |
| jsgotangco | no problem, we'll email anyway, i want to resolve this without going through those channels if possible | 12:12 |
| Burgundavia | mdke, not done yet, that is why I haven't been very active recently | 12:13 |
| mdke | Burgundavia, well good luck | 12:13 |
| mdke | keep at it | 12:13 |
| mdke | jsgotangco, which channels? | 12:13 |
| jsgotangco | sabdfl, silbs | 12:13 |
| mdke | well to be honest i think that the question of the docteam is worth raising with them regardless of this issue | 12:14 |
| mdke | i have been thinking that for a while | 12:14 |
| mdke | especially now enrico is not employed anymore | 12:14 |
| jsgotangco | yes it needs consideration | 12:14 |
| jsgotangco | i hope enrico goes online now | 12:15 |
| mdke | if he comes on later i'll talk to him | 12:15 |
| jsgotangco | yes please | 12:15 |
| mdke | i'll mail henrik too to see what he thinks | 12:17 |
| mdke | <-- shower :p | 12:18 |
| jsgotangco | i wouldn't worry too much on the wiki for now | 12:19 |
| Burgundavia | night all | 12:19 |
| mpt | jsgotangco: What is the current roadmap? | 12:19 |
| Burgundavia | need to sleep | 12:19 |
| jsgotangco | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DocteamProjects is just a table of targets | 12:21 |
| jsgotangco | there is no roadmap to speak of at the moment | 12:21 |
| mdke | one thing we will need to figure out is what to do with the documents which are profiled for ubuntu/kubuntu and Q and A and such | 12:30 |
| mpt | yeah | 12:31 |
| jsgotangco | its way over my head at the moment, but we'll have to do with yelp for now to reach targets | 12:31 |
| mdke | sure but the question is, yelp with xml or yelp with html | 12:32 |
| jsgotangco | we still code in docbook anyway its a matter of packaging | 12:32 |
| mdke | jsgotangco, at least 2 of the docs are profiled for kubuntu/ubuntu, yelp does not support this if we package in xml | 12:33 |
| mdke | so either we need to remove the profiling | 12:33 |
| mdke | or package in html | 12:33 |
| mdke | the same applies to Q and A i think | 12:33 |
| jsgotangco | qanda sets are a problem | 12:33 |
| mdke | as i understand it they are both a problem | 12:34 |
| jsgotangco | but we'll have to do with what yelp can do for now | 12:34 |
| mdke | jsgotangco, as I say, either we package in html or we cut out the profiling and qanda | 12:34 |
| mdke | we can discuss it in a meeting maybe | 12:35 |
| mpt | Is HTML the only way to get a frameset-less set of documents in yelp? | 12:36 |
| mdke | i don't know | 12:36 |
| mdke | who can change the topic in here? | 12:37 |
| jsgotangco | sivang | 12:38 |
| mdke | anyone else? | 12:38 |
| jsgotangco | NO IDEA | 12:38 |
| mdke | hmm | 12:39 |
| mdke | caps? | 12:39 |
| jsgotangco | its a statement | 12:39 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 12:39 |
| jsgotangco | (not directed to you) | 12:39 |
| mdke | strange that its closed topic | 12:40 |
| jsgotangco | i have to go | 01:12 |
| jsgotangco | ill just draft an email later | 01:12 |
| mdke | the whole wiki is in moin now | 03:25 |
| mdke | woohoo | 03:26 |
| Kinnison | cor | 03:26 |
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| jdub | hey dudes | 03:33 |
| mdke | hi jdub | 03:35 |
| mdke | whats up | 03:35 |
| jdub | hrm. me. ;) | 03:37 |
| mdke | good morning then | 03:37 |
| mdke | are you not in oz? | 03:37 |
| jdub | yeah, in .au | 03:39 |
| mdke | you heard sean has quit the team i guess? | 03:40 |
| mdke | jdub, btw did you publish those WorldWide scripts? | 03:46 |
| jdub | i sent them to a couple of people who asked for them, but they're not exactly publishable | 03:47 |
| jdub | i'm kinda waiting to see where the kde ones turn up, because they're a heck of a lot better | 03:48 |
| jdub | only they use the old version of xplanet | 03:48 |
| mdke | ok | 03:48 |
| mdke | would you send them to me? | 03:48 |
| mdke | jdub ^ | 03:51 |
| jdub | yeah | 03:53 |
| mdke | jdub, thanks its matthew.east@breathe.com | 03:54 |
| jdub | cool | 03:57 |
| jdub | ah, so, i'm just going to send this *really* raw :) | 03:58 |
| jdub | straight off the disk | 03:58 |
| mdke | ok | 03:58 |
| mdke | i'll see if I can figure it out | 03:58 |
| jdub | it's a shell script and a bunch of accompanying crack | 03:59 |
| jdub | it uses current xplanet in ubuntu | 03:59 |
| mdke | hoary? | 03:59 |
| jdub | yah | 03:59 |
| jdub | yeah | 03:59 |
| mdke | ok | 03:59 |
| jdub | hrm | 03:59 |
| jdub | actuall | 03:59 |
| mdke | ooh yeah the kde one is nice | 04:00 |
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| jdub | yeah, the new one is pretty bong | 04:02 |
| jdub | mdke: http://people.ubuntu.com/~jdub/random/UbuntuWorldWide.tar.gz | 04:02 |
| mdke | jdub, thanks | 04:03 |
| mdke | jdub, so do you have any thoughts on the current docteam situation? | 04:03 |
| jdub | mdke: yeah, though i can't see that froud has quit publically | 04:05 |
| mdke | no | 04:05 |
| jdub | mdke: i've been in the channel and watching the mailing list for a few weeks, because i want to help get the communication and integration between ubuntu-doc and ubuntu-devel rolling in a useful way | 04:06 |
| mdke | we have been happy to see you around jdub | 04:06 |
| mdke | but in some ways your habit of briefly dismissing our methodology has caused a bit of confusion | 04:07 |
| jdub | i mentioned to corey and jerome that i'm sketching out some ways to help people get involved with particular goals for breezy, so we can get some really satisfying stuff done | 04:07 |
| mdke | that would probably be helpful | 04:07 |
| jdub | yeah, i wasn't very clear on the list | 04:08 |
| mdke | jdub, you have been clear | 04:08 |
| mdke | just a little terse | 04:08 |
| mdke | i know the team would really appreciate being listened to | 04:09 |
| mdke | what we need is a structured methodology that all can agree with and we can stick to | 04:09 |
| jdub | i think in most cases, that comes down to sean | 04:09 |
| jdub | and i'm not sure sean has set a productive agenda | 04:09 |
| mdke | jdub, the thing is, no one else has set one at all | 04:10 |
| jdub | yeah | 04:10 |
| jdub | so sean's is accepted by default - i think that's part of the problem | 04:10 |
| mdke | jdub, i can understand your point of view | 04:11 |
| jdub | (i don't tend to think i'm disagreeing with the whole team when i disagree with sean) | 04:11 |
| mdke | jdub, however, in a team like this, where only a few people are putting work in, it is disruptive to have someone come in and say, in a line or two, screw this | 04:11 |
| mdke | jdub, yes I know | 04:11 |
| jdub | yeah, i'm disappointed with this thread | 04:12 |
| mdke | i know that sean has a tendency to just go ahead with things | 04:12 |
| mdke | but he has been putting in a lot of work | 04:12 |
| jdub | i don't want to sound ungrateful for his work, but his direction has not really been related to that of the rest of the project | 04:13 |
| jdub | which draws the whole team further away | 04:13 |
| mdke | jdub, i disagree to some extent | 04:13 |
| jdub | and makes it that much harder for everyone else to value the work being done | 04:14 |
| jdub | which sucks, because that's demotivating | 04:14 |
| mvirkkil | mdke: Nice work with the moin conversion :) | 04:51 |
| mdke | :) | 04:52 |
| mdke | wiki is moving next week | 04:52 |
| mpt | jdub: http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpfulHelp | 05:03 |
| mpt | jdub: I'll try to get it finished once I've had some sleep | 05:04 |
| mpt | (it's probably about 40% done a.t.m.) | 05:04 |
| mvirkkil | mdke: To moin? | 05:05 |
| mvirkkil | mdke: What version? | 05:05 |
| mvirkkil | mdke: As the one in breezy is horrbily outdated. | 05:05 |
| mvirkkil | mdke: I really hope it'll be the 1.3 branch. | 05:05 |
| jdub | mpt: 'rename yelp' -> it's never referred to as yelp in the ui :) | 05:07 |
| jdub | apart from that, it's rocking | 05:07 |
| mpt | jdub: All abstractions leak. It's referred to as yelp in (1) the About box, (2) error messages, (3) my "System" menu ever since I chose it from the "Open With..." menu for a DocBook file | 05:08 |
| jdub | mpt: feasibility of print -> actually 200 times simpler than search, will be done through bounty if i get a response about it | 05:08 |
| jdub | mpt: not sure any of those are horrendously important | 05:09 |
| mpt | No, you're right, they're not | 05:09 |
| jdub | error messages would be the most important of the three | 05:09 |
| jdub | (3) is crack ;) | 05:09 |
| mpt | If by "crack" you mean "a bug", sure | 05:09 |
| jdub | (it's crack that it happens at all, like amazingly surprisingly weird) | 05:09 |
| mpt | Normally I wouldn't mind the panel menus not being editable | 05:10 |
| mpt | but since they aren't, I've got no idea how to return it to its proper name :-P | 05:10 |
| mpt | (or restore its icon) | 05:10 |
| jdub | what do you have under .gnome/apps/ ? | 05:10 |
| mpt | I have a .gnome directory, but not a .gnome/apps/ directory | 05:11 |
| jdub | ahr | 05:12 |
| jdub | mucho bong! | 05:12 |
| mpt | As for error messages, here's a simple example: (1) Open yelp to the default Hoary help page. (2) Choose "File" > "About this Document". (3) There is no step 3. | 05:12 |
| mpt | Maybe I've been pushing Hoary too hard, and it's starting to fall apart | 05:13 |
| mpt | 2/3 of the gnome-games don't have icons any more | 05:13 |
| mpt | Or maybe I just have the evil touch :-) | 05:14 |
| mdke | mvirkkil, yes 1.3 | 05:20 |
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| SquishyWaffle | howdy | 09:24 |
| SquishyWaffle | I don't know who to direct this to but I had some feedback that I was hoping some of the doc team leaders could peek at. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=203332#post203332 | 09:24 |
| SquishyWaffle | In regards to wiki ergonomics and making things easier to get around in. | 09:25 |
| SquishyWaffle | or maybe this is the wrong place to ask since I hear you guys mostly do the stuff via SVN :) | 09:33 |
| mdke | hi SquishyWaffle | 09:33 |
| mdke | i'll check it out | 09:33 |
| SquishyWaffle | hello | 09:33 |
| mdke | i'll reply on that thread too | 09:34 |
| mdke | thanks for that | 09:34 |
| mdke | i see henrik is involved in that thread | 09:34 |
| SquishyWaffle | ok, I'm not trying to complain, I just really love the idea of good documentation and I want to see the work everyone is investing go to good use | 09:34 |
| mdke | sure i agree | 09:35 |
| mdke | ah is that your post? | 09:35 |
| mdke | SquishyWaffle, lets talk about it now then if you like | 09:36 |
| SquishyWaffle | sure | 09:36 |
| SquishyWaffle | I was the last one, GTaylor | 09:36 |
| mdke | ok | 09:36 |
| mdke | i'm matt | 09:36 |
| SquishyWaffle | ok | 09:36 |
| mdke | now | 09:36 |
| mdke | 1. speed | 09:36 |
| mdke | the speed will be greatly increased after the transition to the new enging | 09:37 |
| mdke | *engine | 09:37 |
| SquishyWaffle | that's definitely good news | 09:37 |
| mdke | ok | 09:37 |
| mdke | 2. mediawiki | 09:37 |
| mdke | out of the question i'm afraid | 09:37 |
| SquishyWaffle | ok, not a big deal | 09:38 |
| mdke | the ubuntu guys considered it and rejected it | 09:38 |
| mdke | sadly | 09:38 |
| mdke | 3. images | 09:38 |
| mdke | just link them by filename and they will appear | 09:38 |
| mdke | e.g. http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/PicDoc.png | 09:38 |
| SquishyWaffle | is there a way to easily upload/resize on-page? | 09:39 |
| mdke | upload yeah | 09:39 |
| mdke | lemme fine the exact button | 09:39 |
| mdke | *find | 09:39 |
| mdke | ok "add image" | 09:39 |
| mdke | you can't resize on page at the moment, maybe with the new engine it will be possible | 09:40 |
| SquishyWaffle | ok | 09:40 |
| mdke | erm | 09:40 |
| mdke | 4. html | 09:40 |
| mdke | no | 09:40 |
| mdke | there is only MoinMoin markup | 09:40 |
| mdke | 5. categories | 09:41 |
| mdke | supported by the new engine | 09:41 |
| mdke | :) | 09:41 |
| mdke | hmm what else | 09:41 |
| mdke | i'm not sure i agree that gentoo are one of our big contenders... but still they do have much better docs than us | 09:42 |
| SquishyWaffle | well that covers what I had wondered and is re-assuring | 09:42 |
| SquishyWaffle | big contenders in docs :) | 09:42 |
| mdke | yeah that would be something to aim for | 09:42 |
| SquishyWaffle | but they will quickly be outstripped as the Wiki grows | 09:42 |
| mdke | well the official gentoo docs are better too | 09:42 |
| SquishyWaffle | that brings up another point, what's this I'm hearing about SVN-based docs when we have the Wiki? | 09:43 |
| mdke | our official docs are developed in an svn repository in xml docbook format | 09:43 |
| SquishyWaffle | what goes in those versus the wiki? | 09:44 |
| mdke | couple of points here | 09:44 |
| mdke | first, we will use parts of the wiki, and other doc sources when writing those documents | 09:44 |
| mdke | secondly, we are working on a means to convert wiki documents, where they are very good, to xml docbook and publish them | 09:45 |
| SquishyWaffle | publish them as in paperback? | 09:45 |
| mdke | no i mean in the distribution and on the website | 09:45 |
| SquishyWaffle | But I'm curious as to why we're doing that when I'd imagine we should be able to do it on the Wiki | 09:46 |
| mdke | *grins* | 09:46 |
| mdke | see gentoo | 09:46 |
| mdke | the wiki is essentially a brainstorming area | 09:46 |
| SquishyWaffle | yeah, but see Wikipedia | 09:46 |
| mdke | where anyone can edit and contribute | 09:46 |
| mdke | we don't have that sort of quality of editors | 09:47 |
| SquishyWaffle | heh, shucks | 09:47 |
| mdke | quality/quantity ;) | 09:47 |
| SquishyWaffle | ok, so your project is basically a refining of what's on the wiki? | 09:47 |
| mdke | SquishyWaffle, there are some books being worked on as well | 09:48 |
| mdke | guides | 09:48 |
| SquishyWaffle | that's good to hear too, I wish this stuff was more publicized | 09:48 |
| mdke | yeah we need to work on that | 09:48 |
| mdke | our methodology is a little bit sketchy at the moment | 09:48 |
| SquishyWaffle | I'd love to see them give more people access to the announcement forums so you guys can keep everyone hyped up :) | 09:48 |
| mdke | so when it is stabilised we will publish it better | 09:48 |
| mdke | hmm | 09:49 |
| mdke | i know henrik and others are very keen on developing the forums/docteam relationship | 09:49 |
| mdke | me too | 09:49 |
| mdke | when the new wiki is out we can port some guides forum->wiki | 09:49 |
| SquishyWaffle | well is there anywhere I can see what you guys are working on right now? | 09:50 |
| mdke | https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DocumentationTeam | 09:50 |
| mdke | its a start | 09:50 |
| mdke | although not necessarily complete | 09:50 |
| SquishyWaffle | So I take it this is your main project right now?: http://people.ubuntu.com/~mako/docteam/quickguide/ | 09:52 |
| SquishyWaffle | looks like there are some good things in the works | 09:56 |
| mdke | quickguide is done basically, we've got a kde one now | 09:57 |
| mdke | i'm trying to get behind the userguide | 09:57 |
| mdke | its quite raw atm | 09:57 |
| jjesse | i'm working on the install guide | 09:58 |
| jjesse | trying to put the network install guide from the wiki into the install guide | 09:58 |
| mdke | jjesse, awesome | 09:58 |
| SquishyWaffle | I'd really like to help in some way. I'm a Kubuntu user/packager and would love to assist | 09:59 |
| jjesse | thanks mdke | 09:59 |
| mdke | SquishyWaffle, ok that would be great | 10:00 |
| mdke | SquishyWaffle, you can checkout our repository and have a poke around | 10:00 |
| SquishyWaffle | Where is help needed the most? | 10:00 |
| mdke | difficult to say right now | 10:01 |
| mdke | we will be having a meeting soon and hopefully we can establish our targets | 10:01 |
| mdke | would be great if you join | 10:01 |
| SquishyWaffle | when is the meeting? | 10:01 |
| mdke | not set yet | 10:01 |
| SquishyWaffle | shoot, the KDE docs haven't even been started :) That's a pretty ripe area | 10:02 |
| mdke | SquishyWaffle, we have a kde quickguide, but nothing else i believe | 10:02 |
| SquishyWaffle | hrm, no active link to it on https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DocteamProjects | 10:02 |
| mdke | SquishyWaffle, if you join the mailing list, you can make sure you don't miss the meeting | 10:02 |
| SquishyWaffle | ok, will do | 10:02 |
| mdke | SquishyWaffle, we can help you get our repository to have a look | 10:03 |
| mdke | SquishyWaffle, the previews on that projects page are not maintained i'm afraid, best way is to see the repository | 10:04 |
| mdke | https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos/trunk/kde/kquickguide/C/kquickguide.xml | 10:05 |
| SquishyWaffle | ok | 10:05 |
| SquishyWaffle | and are you guys editing this by hand or using a GUI tool of some sort? | 10:05 |
| mdke | gedit for me | 10:06 |
| mdke | it supports syntax highlighting | 10:07 |
| SquishyWaffle | ok, guess I have a mark-up language to learn :) | 10:07 |
| mdke | :) | 10:07 |
| mdke | SquishyWaffle, i haven't really learnt it yet | 10:07 |
| mdke | i just copy whats already there | 10:08 |
| mdke | its like html basically | 10:08 |
| SquishyWaffle | yeah | 10:08 |
| mdke | SquishyWaffle, there may also be a easy reference help project being worked on soon | 10:09 |
| mdke | best to wait for the meeting and see how the targets go | 10:09 |
| SquishyWaffle | ok, I can start playing with what's in the repository. Are there guides on the wiki to compiling things locally for testing? | 10:10 |
| mdke | you can just open the document | 10:10 |
| mdke | "yelp path/to/xml" | 10:10 |
| SquishyWaffle | yelp :) | 10:10 |
| mdke | or whatever kde uses | 10:11 |
| SquishyWaffle | sounds violent | 10:11 |
| mdke | kdehelpcenter or something | 10:11 |
| jjesse | kdehelpcenter | 10:12 |
| jjesse | though if i recall from froud kdehelpcenter doesn't do the convert on the fly or something like that | 10:13 |
| mdke | it should be able to read xml? | 10:13 |
| SquishyWaffle | convert on the fly? | 10:13 |
| jjesse | trying to remember a conversatation w/ froud about converting to html or something like that? | 10:13 |
| mdke | shouldn't be necessary | 10:14 |
| mdke | i think it reads the xml | 10:14 |
| mdke | yelp certainly does | 10:14 |
| SquishyWaffle | will these documents we're writing be in the KDE/Gnome help systems too? | 10:16 |
| mdke | yelp is the gnome help system | 10:16 |
| mdke | so yeah that's the idea | 10:16 |
| SquishyWaffle | very good | 10:16 |
| mdke | but they don't get pushed upstream cos they are docs for ubuntu | 10:16 |
| SquishyWaffle | yeah, I'm just hoping they'll be easy to find and open up within Gnome/KDE | 10:17 |
| mdke | oh right | 10:17 |
| mdke | yeah they are in the main menu | 10:17 |
| mdke | under System | 10:17 |
| mdke | -> Help | 10:17 |
| mdke | again, dunno about kde | 10:17 |
| mdke | btw I replied on that thread with the same stuff I told ya here | 10:18 |
| SquishyWaffle | in KDE there are a lot of branches from the main page, I'm hoping that'll be cleaned up a little | 10:18 |
| SquishyWaffle | ok good | 10:18 |
| jjesse | its khelpcenter | 10:18 |
| jjesse | for kde | 10:18 |
| SquishyWaffle | hopped on the mailing list | 10:19 |
| mdke | cool | 10:20 |
| mdke | bear with us for a bit because today we lost our main contributor, so things will need reorganising, hence the meeting | 10:20 |
| SquishyWaffle | ouch, ok | 10:20 |
| jjesse | we lost our main contributer? | 10:26 |
| jjesse | did i miss an email about that or somethng? | 10:26 |
| mdke | jjesse, no email as yet | 10:26 |
| mdke | froud has decided to quit | 10:26 |
| jjesse | mdke oh thats too bad | 10:26 |
| jjesse | i really got along w/ him | 10:26 |
| mdke | yeah | 10:26 |
| mdke | he was a hard worker for the cause :) | 10:27 |
| mdke | but these things will happen and we will carry on | 10:27 |
| jjesse | is there an email going to come out? | 10:27 |
| mdke | i hope so | 10:28 |
| mdke | he said that he has unsubscribed, but I hope that he will email | 10:28 |
| jjesse | that really stinks i wonder why he left | 10:31 |
| SquishyWaffle | life gets busy/hard at times :( | 10:31 |
| === mdke nods | ||
| mdke | the forum has such a busy interface | 10:32 |
| mdke | where is the thing to subscribe to the thread? | 10:32 |
| mdke | ah its in thread tools | 10:33 |
| SquishyWaffle | woohoo, 100 posts | 10:37 |
| mdke | *grins* | 10:37 |
| mdke | 7! | 10:37 |
| mdke | oh no | 10:37 |
| mdke | 6! | 10:37 |
| SquishyWaffle | on a roll | 10:38 |
| SquishyWaffle | anyone find it ironic that those messenger buttons under avatars don't work under Linux? :) | 10:39 |
| SquishyWaffle | (unless you do some manual labor) | 10:39 |
| mdke | which? | 10:40 |
| SquishyWaffle | none of them work for me | 10:44 |
| mdke | of what? | 10:44 |
| SquishyWaffle | oh, for example go into a post and look under the avatars at the messenger icons | 10:44 |
| SquishyWaffle | it's under the Posts: field | 10:44 |
| SquishyWaffle | it'll open up another dialog box and if you click Send a message it doesn't do anything or gives you a warning about opening an external program depending on your browser | 10:45 |
| mdke | the dialogue just closed | 10:46 |
| mdke | very fast | 10:46 |
| mdke | as if it crashed | 10:46 |
| SquishyWaffle | yuck | 10:50 |
| SquishyWaffle | that's going to need some attention, I'll post in the site forum later | 10:51 |
| mdke | tell them their interface is too busy as well | 10:52 |
| mdke | :p | 10:52 |
| SquishyWaffle | I'm used to it because I'm a forum crawler :) | 10:53 |
| SquishyWaffle | we have a vBulletin site that a lot of people on campus frequent | 10:53 |
| jjesse | well guys work is over have a great day :) | 10:53 |
| SquishyWaffle | Dinner time ) | 10:54 |
| mdke | k | 10:56 |
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