[12:03] <DanielN> CommunityCouncil meeting?
[12:04] <tseng> tommorow.
[12:06] <DanielN> ah
[12:07] <DanielN> ok thx
[12:07] <tseng> nps
[12:07] <DanielN> argh
[12:07] <DanielN> but in the agenda was today, right?
[12:07] <DanielN> only cause i'm not sure about myself
[12:07] <DanielN> :)
[12:08] <Kamion> it was, it was a mistake
[12:08] <DanielN> ok
[12:08] <tseng> it said Tuesday the 6th
[12:08] <tseng> so you were half right.
[12:15] <DanielN> tseng: and i put the 6th in when (calendar) .. so it was right changed to monday ;)
[12:15] <DanielN> but welll .. god night all
[12:15] <DanielN> +o
[08:50] <mako> greetings..
[08:51] <mako> i'm gonna be offline for the next couple hours but will be back a bit before the meeting
[09:48] <opi> hello :-)
[10:44] <opi> g'day elmo
[10:44] <elmo> hi opi
[10:44] <opi> another late night CoC session :-)
[10:47] <Mez> yeah - should be interesting... lol... whya re they so late anwyays?
[10:48] <mdke> not late if your in australia or america i guess
[10:48] <mdke> the next one will be earlier
[10:48] <kassetra> It's late afternoon in the US.
[10:48] <mdke> hi kassetra
[10:49] <kassetra> :)
[10:49] <kassetra> hiya :)
[10:49] <mdke> how are you getting on with those mammoth minutes?
[10:49] <kassetra> they're mammoth.
[10:49] <kassetra> HUGE.
[10:49] <mdke> *grins*
[10:50] <kassetra> and of course, that's not including my day job.
[10:50] <kassetra> :)
[10:51] <opi> maybe I should put some kaffeine ;)
[10:58] <mgalvin> l8r, hopefully i can make it home in time for the meeting
[11:00] <nalioth> pardon my mathematical uncertainty, but when (in Texas time) is the meeting?
[11:00] <opi> ummm
[11:00] <opi> it's in 1h
[11:00] <opi> so, now if you know the time in TX, do the math :P
[11:01] <nalioth> opi: thx
[11:01] <nalioth> opi: its the danged daylight savins (or giving back) time
[11:02] <opi> It's too late for me to understand english :-)
[11:02] <nalioth> i was thinking -6, but DST did it to me
[11:05] <Seveas> nalioth, check the topic
[11:05] <Seveas> use date --utc :)
[11:05] <nalioth> Seveas: ok
[11:06] <nalioth> thank you professor Seveas 
[11:06] <Seveas> lol
[11:07] <Seveas> have to get my MSc and phd first :)
[11:07] <nalioth> Seveas: sure ya are, yer just ignorant of your main pupillary body
[11:10] <mako> Mez: they are not always this late.. they move around
[11:10] <mdke> hey mako 
[11:10] <opi> it's 2 AM or 6 AM, pick up your posion :D
[11:10] <opi> mako-san
[11:10] <kassetra> hi mako  :)
[11:11] <mako> greetings
[11:11] <ogra> mako, didnt we have a extra meeting about op's in #ubuntu ? (a pretty lengthy late one iirc)
[11:12] <Mez> lol - fair enough mako
[11:12] <ogra> some weeks ago, i dont recall which week anymore.... 
[11:12] <opi> ogra: and it end up at what?
[11:13] <ogra> with a lst of people that can op in #ubuntu now
[11:14] <mako> ogra: i don't think we had a seperate meeting
[11:14] <mdke> it was in a CC i think
[11:14] <mako> ogra: we talked at UDU and then it was in the context of a CC meeting
[11:14] <mdke> there was a proposal that CC members would op up if necessary in the channe
[11:15] <opi> ogra: but the item is about Members (all?) being able to sudo rights at #ubuntu (and #kubuntu?)
[11:15] <Seveas> mdke, i like that option
[11:15] <ogra> mako, it was after a CC meeting, yes
[11:16] <opi> ogra: after the last one?
[11:16] <ogra> opi, nope, it was about implementing the UDU spec
[11:16] <opi> ogra: because I renember this item rised at the last one, just before the end
[11:16] <ogra> and it was not the last one iirc
[11:16] <mako> opi: we talked about local teams right before the end of the last one..
[11:16] <mako> i just finished writing the summary :)
[11:16] <mdke> i think it was before udu, but not sure
[11:16] <ogra> i'll ask dholbach, he'll remember
[11:17] <mako> mdke: every irc op meeting was post-udu
[11:17] <mdke> oh ok
[11:17] <dholbach> ogra: what do i remember?
[11:17] <opi> mako: um... I need to take my drugs for renember things, then
[11:17] <ogra> dholbach, when did we have the #ubuntu op's meeting
[11:17] <dholbach> ogra: about irc ops? no i dont... there was some meeting post-udu
[11:18] <ogra> dholbach, after one of the last CC meetings....
[11:18] <dholbach> sorry, that i don't know
[11:18] <ogra> may be two or thre ago
[11:18] <ogra> dholbach, you were there.....
[11:18] <dholbach> man i was in 42697649264 of meetings
[11:18] <ogra> sinc youre also a op in #ubuntu now if i'm not wrong
[11:18] <dholbach> i'm not
[11:19] <ogra> you ere on the list
[11:19] <ogra> were
[11:19] <dholbach> i declined to do it, when i was asked
[11:19] <ogra> me too, but i'm an op ow
[11:19] <ogra> now even
[11:19] <dholbach> let me crawl through some MBs of logs
[11:19] <mako> dude, i wrote up summaries :)
[11:19] <ogra> heh
[11:19] <mako> save yourself some pain
[11:20] <Riddell> why would you decline the power of the op?
[11:20] <ogra> mako, url ?*g*
[11:20] <mako> http://people.ubuntu.com/~mako/cc-summary-20050510.html
[11:20] <nalioth> Seveas: helps when the mentally challenged show their true light
[11:20] <dholbach> Riddell: because i'm not in #ubuntu that often
[11:20] <mako> fro some reason, we called ogra ograting
[11:20] <Seveas> Riddell, because everybody can see you're an op and not everybody wants to be bothered by random people in case of trouble
[11:20] <ogra> heh
[11:21] <Seveas> or be bothered by random people who think they can ask the ops everything in private
[11:21] <mdke> you would just op up if necessary
[11:21] <mdke> most of the time you would be normal
[11:21] <opi> yup, like mdke says
[11:21] <Seveas> mdke /msg chanserv access #ubuntu list
[11:21] <Seveas> most ubuntu newbies know that
[11:21] <dholbach> may 10th, exactly :)
[11:22] <mdke> Seveas, do they?
[11:22] <ogra> dholbach, look at the list ;)
[11:22] <mdke> those are some geeky n00bs
[11:22] <Seveas> mdke, well, most people who know there way to #ubuntu know IRC a bit...
[11:22] <ivoks> hi all
[11:22] <Seveas> and than they can still be UBuntu-noobs :)
[11:22] <opi> hi ivoks 
[11:22] <mdke> Seveas, well xchat goes to #ubuntu automatically, but i take your point
[11:22] <Seveas> hi ivoks 
[11:23] <dholbach> i'm quite glad i'm not o nthere :)
[11:23] <ivoks> on ubuntu, everything is automatically :)
[11:23] <ogra> dholbach, err ??
[11:23] <ogra> There were a number of suggestions in that document. After asking the people in attendance, the board approved the first round of additions to the IRC operators list that included these people (identified by IRC nick):
[11:23] <ogra>     * crimsun
[11:23] <ogra>     * tritium
[11:23] <ogra>     * ajmitch
[11:23] <ogra>     * carlk
[11:23] <ogra>     * Amaranth
[11:23] <ogra>     * dholbach
[11:23] <ogra>     * ogra
[11:23] <dholbach> ogra: i was talking about: /msg chanserv access #ubuntu list
[11:24] <ivoks> prevod1: zdravo ;)
[11:24] <p0m> It's good to see my timezone hasn't screwed me over :)
[11:25] <ivoks> :)
[11:25] <prevod1> ivoks: zdravo ;-)
[11:25] <ivoks> prevod1: it's prijevod :)))
[11:27] <prevod1> ivoks: Yes, off course...
[11:49] <mgalvin> 10 min to spare :)
[11:49] <opi> another beer?
[11:50] <ivoks> sure :)
[11:50] <ivoks> it's midnight... night is young :)
[11:50] <Seveas> beer
[11:50] <Seveas> beer is good
[11:50] <Seveas> grolsch is better :)
[11:50] <opi> that's a common marketing-lie ;)
[11:50] <mgalvin> eases the stress
[11:51] <opi> go, Goldman! :)
[11:51] <ivoks> there's nothing like kilkenny
[11:51] <opi> it costs only 0.5 euro
[11:51] <Seveas> ivoks, aie!
[11:51] <Seveas> you've got taste!
[11:51] <ivoks> Seveas: who doesn't like kilkenny? :)
[11:51] <opi> I never had it :P
[11:51] <opi> so I can not judge
[11:52] <opi> feel free to ship it :D
[11:52] <ivoks> opi: oh, you missed so much in your life
[11:52] <pschulz01> it it too early for a beer? (7:30am Australia/Adelaide)
[11:52] <opi> pschulz01: that's oxymoron
[11:52] <opi> to early and beer in one sentence
[11:52] <pschulz01> ptscheee
[11:53] <ivoks> hoegarrden is nice too
[11:53] <mako> alright.. something like 10 minutes.. i'm gonna make tea and do a last pass on the agneda
[11:53] <ivoks> and leffe...
[11:53] <nalioth> pschulz01: its always 5pm somewhere
[11:54] <pschulz01> (I don't hear anyone else opening beers)
[11:54] <JanC> ivoks : I prefer non-commercial belgian white beers  :)
[11:54] <Seveas> *plop*
[11:54] <opi> pschulz01: mine goes: pszzzzzzz
[11:54] <JanC> and real abbey beers  :)
[11:54] <Seveas> Grolch beugel goes *plop* instead of *psscchhh*
[11:54] <Seveas> JanC, La Chouffe!
[11:55] <ivoks> JanC: :)
[11:55] <ivoks> JanC: i don't have access to non-commercial beers from belgium :)
[11:57] <JanC> I can get some from the night-shop now, but I think coax is too thin to transport them   ;-)
[11:57] <mako> ivoks: leffe blonde is alright
[11:57] <mdke> non-commercial beers?
[11:57] <JanC> the only leffe that's alright (IMHO) is "Leffe La Radieuze"
[11:57] <mako> westmalle tripel is one my favorites
[11:57] <mdke> FOSS beers?
[11:58] <ivoks> mako: leffe is great
[11:58] <mako> the sarge release party for nyc is being held in a belgian beer bar
[11:58] <mako> :)
[11:58] <pitti> hi
[11:58] <ivoks> :)) nice
[11:58] <mdke> hi pitti 
[11:58] <Seveas> Belgium has much better things to offer than leffe
[11:58] <ivoks> pitti: hi
[11:58] <Seveas> not that leffe is bad :)
[11:58] <Kamion> um, so ...
[11:59] <mako> right
[11:59] <mako> give me a second to finish w/ agenda
[11:59] <Kamion> I completely forgot about this meeting, but it's really quite awkward for me, 'cos I'm in the middle of moving a batch of stuff to the new house
[11:59] <Kamion> and preparing for tomorrow's inspection of the old house
[11:59] <mako> Kamion: i think sabdfl is around
[11:59] <opi> Kamion: good luck :-)
[11:59] <Kamion> and need to get to some shop before they close, to buy stuff for tomorrow morning
[12:00] <opi> Kamion: don't miss any computer part :)
[12:00] <Kamion> does anyone mind if I excuse myself from this meeting, with apologies?
[12:00] <mdke> good luck with the move Kamion 
[12:00] <mako> Kamion: go on :)
[12:00] <ivoks> Kamion: enyoj ;)
[12:00] <mako> i hate moving
[12:00] <Kamion> thanks, sorry about that - it does look like you'll be quorate anyway
[12:00] <Kamion> yeah, me too
[12:00] <Kamion> I've managed to avoid doing it for four years
[12:00] <mako> i am having spasms of fear for my move in august
[12:01] <mako> the fact that i live on the 5th floor of a building with no elevator does not help things
[12:01] <Nafallo> hi everyone! :-)
[12:01] <opi> mako: put everything in a big box, and off you go
[12:01] <mdke> mako, get debian NYC round to help
[12:01] <ogra> mako, down is easier :)
[12:01] <mgalvin> hi