=== hunger [~hunger@p54A652A0.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["...] [12:08] meeting's started [12:11] motaboy: ping? I'v not seen your /me is ... on -meeting [12:12] allee: thanks done :D [12:12] motaboy: great ;) === haggai [~halls@i-83-67-59-194.freedom2surf.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:13] motaboy: me too ;) [12:13] :P === jsgotangco [~jsg@202.57.71.236] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [~jsg@202.57.71.236] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] [12:49] motaboy: we need the .orig file for metabar [12:51] Riddell: I'll redo them as I cannot discover the orig anymore (I think it's the source distributed upstream) [12:52] cool [01:21] Night All! [01:26] wow, #ubuntu-motu is always quiet [01:28] SquishyWaffle: guess they're all in the meeting or sleeping [01:28] oh, didn't realize that's still going [01:30] riddell: lets postpone the opstuff alteast until tomorrow. I really need to sleep now. [01:30] gnite :) [01:31] uniq: it's been discussed, I need to talk to daniels about getting me able to assign ops [01:32] yes, i read it. [01:36] well, gnite again. [01:36] nicht === SquishyWaffle [~GTaylor@130-127-67-44.lehotsky.clemson.edu] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] === JRe [~jre@adsl-169-178.36-151.net24.it] has joined #kubuntu-devel === calc [~ccheney@ip70-185-4-246.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh [~shermann@server3.servereyes.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [~hunger@195.143.232.242] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [~hunger@195.143.232.242] has left #kubuntu-devel ["...] [11:37] http://distrocenter.linux.com/article.pl?sid=05/04/19/200233 nice review [12:00] ;) === KaiL_ [KaiL@p548F7CAC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === KabelKasper [~vloechte@i5387EA66.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === doko_ [~doko___@dsl-084-059-045-032.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Wolvy [~chatzilla@host38-38.pool80183.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Wolvy [~chatzilla@host38-38.pool80183.interbusiness.it] has left #kubuntu-devel [] [03:44] \sh: "debian/rules: Removed DEB_DH_INSTALL_ARGS := --list-missing" why was that removed? [03:44] libkexif [04:12] <\sh> ahh...because of...I forgot... [04:13] <\sh> but with this line there was an error [04:13] <\sh> ah right, some files were not in the resulting package [04:14] they don't go away if you just remove the --list-missing :) [04:16] <\sh> sure...they were inside after this :) try it :) [06:19] hello. [06:31] Riddell, \sh: I used --list-missing in libkexif to check the .install are correct. With or without --list-missing changes nothing except that the buildlog is smaller without ;) [06:32] \sh are you sure that --list-missing generated an error? It never did on debian. === allee is curious to see how/if the kubuntu diff reaches the libkexif debian maintainer ;) [06:36] allee: the diff is renaming for gcc 4 [06:38] Riddell: and remove list-missing I assume. I can do it for debian too. AFAIU having *ubuntu* in version prevents autosync [06:40] it's best if you get it into debian first.. and let autosync do the ubuntu-stuff (if that'll work for the package). [06:41] uniq: is autosync running at these times? (because ubuntu doing gcc4 trans, debian not yet) [06:42] not running right now, but everything with *ubuntu* in the versio nstring must be updated manualy. [06:43] if you get it into debian you can save yourself (and others) for some extra work.C[C[C [06:46] that's the -motu idea.. anyway. [06:58] -ubuntu packages do get a friendly bugzilla entry saying "you need to sync this" === hunger [~hunger@p54A64AA0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:12] <\sh> Riddell: we need a nicer cursor theme for kubuntu [08:13] \sh: it uses the same one as ubuntu [08:13] \sh: but for some reason kdm, kwin and konqueror's busy cursor doesn't use it [08:14] <\sh> Riddell: well, but we should find something matching to plastik, lipstik...or is anyone working on the default ubuntu thene for kubuntu? [08:15] i like the ubuntu mousecursor clean an simple. no-bs. [08:16] \sh: there's a crystal cursor theme, it's horrible [08:16] <\sh> where are the default cursors normally in the / tree? [08:17] cursor themes are pretty hard to do anything exiting with that you would want to actually use [08:17] <\sh> my cursors are not the same as in ubuntu :( [08:17] \sh: no, I had to take a copy of them, see kubuntu-default-settings [08:18] /usr/share/icons/kubuntu/ [08:18] <\sh> hmmm [08:18] \sh: what cursor theme are you using? [08:18] <\sh> after the default install of kubuntu, the link for default.kde is on crystalsvg. [08:19] <\sh> kubuntu install cd :) [08:19] there's no icons in /usr/share/icons/kubuntu/, it's just for the cursor theme [08:20] <\sh> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2005-06-04 15:44 default.kde -> crystalsvg [08:20] yes [08:20] <\sh> but i installed also the kde3.4.1 update packages [08:20] crystalsvg is the icon set [08:21] mouse cursor set elsewhere [08:22] <\sh> /etc/X11/cursors? [08:23] /usr/share/icons/kubuntu/ [08:23] <\sh> yeah...but u have to set the default cursor theme [08:24] <\sh> in /etc/X11/cursors are {core,handhelds,redglass,whiteglass}.theme [08:24] <\sh> and xorg is searching for index.theme in ~/.icons/ and where else? somewhere u have to set default.theme=kubuntu.theme or something like this [08:25] $HOME/.icons, /usr/share/icons, /usr/share/pixmaps, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/icons [08:26] <\sh> and the default is index.theme, with [Icon Theme] Inherits=kubuntu.theme [08:26] <\sh> and the default is index.theme, with [Icon Theme] Inherits=kubuntu (even) [08:27] if that is found.. yes. [08:28] <\sh> and if it's not found? [08:29] it'll default to the default theme. [08:29] <\sh> and the default default is core? [08:29] as in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/icons/default or something. [08:29] <\sh> ahhh...there it is [08:30] <\sh> but it looks strange to me...anyways [08:31] \sh: kdebluetooth reviewed on MOTUNewPackages [08:31] <\sh> not now...i just fixed warped...it took my brain out [08:33] warped? [08:33] <\sh> yes [08:33] riddell: got something i can help with? since celestia can be synced with debian directly. [08:33] <\sh> a very important lib to ogra ;) and really crappy c++ code [08:34] uniq: you could take a look at build failures of ggz-kde-games and ggz-kde-client [08:36] roger. === motaboy [~motaboy@host217-36.pool80182.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:46] Hi to all! [08:47] hi motaboy. [08:48] our newest member [08:49] congrats on membership :) [08:51] <\sh> hey motaboy [08:52] congratulations too. [08:59] motaboy: ping? [08:59] he's all shy [08:59] no smoking ;) [09:00] <\sh> gentoo dev and shy? never :) [09:00] What about this mouse theme for kubuntu? http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=6240 (the blue one) [09:06] KabelKasper: 19:16 < Riddell> \sh: there's a crystal cursor theme, it's horrible [09:06] it needs to be a lot more subtle to be usable [09:12] Riddell: what kind of laptop do you have? [09:12] 1600x1200 @ 12"? [09:14] KaiL_: I'm sure he has not! Think about konsoles default font in such a beast: 1 mm height ;) but he kept the default, so he has 'low' res. q.e.d. === allee duck ;) [09:14] allee: you know the default fonts in kubuntu? === philipacamaniac [~pcain@208-47-135-198.dia.cust.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:15] konsole has a different one. Look at the source ;) [09:17] KaiL_: standard fonts: locate kdeglobals [09:48] KaiL_: 1024x768 [09:48] 14" [09:49] same as the Asus M2400N here... [09:49] why do you have 12pt fonts as default then? ;) [09:50] KaiL_: what would you suggest? === philipacamaniac [~pcain@208-47-135-198.dia.cust.qwest.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] [09:52] 10 === Riddell tries it [09:57] ug, far too small [09:57] my eyes arn't like they used to be you know, young whippersnappers [09:58] of course it depends on dots per inch what the final size is [10:00] imho 12pt looks awefull on everything <100dpi [10:00] it's ok for some 1400x1050 @ 15" :) [10:01] I'm on 75x75 dpi [10:29] allee: thanks! [10:30] 10 point fonts too painful, going back to 12 point [10:32] Riddell: I'm happy with 10pt too. Are your 75 dpi real dpi? [10:32] allee: dunno, ow wouldn't they be? [10:32] how [10:34] divide 1024 (768) by the with a ruler measured width (height) in inch = ??? [10:35] Riddell: or check im xorg driver gets and use display dimensions from TFT === allee busy importing knemo into KDE extragear [10:36] allee: you make knemo? [10:36] no percy (author) is to busy (lazy?) to do the 'formal' stuff. I just triggered it again and as a price have to do it myself ;) [10:37] knemo has potential, but needs work before it can be used by default [10:37] I only pkg knemo for debian (ask sponsor for final debian upload some days ago) [10:38] after g++4 storm is over I plan to pester you about automount/hotplug plans for brezy and then pester percy to add necessary fixes to knemos TODO ;) [10:39] personally I would like that a ifplug hotplug event triggers knemo so knemo is only active when monitoring [10:39] I plan to look at ivmon [10:40] nope, google doesn't know that [10:40] what was it called === allee returns when knemo svn checkout compiles [10:41] bbl [10:41] good luck [10:41] ivman seems to be it [10:41] Riddell: for auto* stuff I really need it (my first not-only-a-one-line change) [11:57] riddell: ggz-kde-games fixed. i'll upload to my server tomorrow. [11:57] uniq: cool, what was the problem? [11:58] had to add casting for some !='s [11:58] http://artis.imag.fr/Membres/Xavier.Decoret/resources/C++/operator==.html#bigpicture [11:58] something about that :)