mjg59 | lamont__: Hello | 12:58 |
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lamont__ | mjg59: was wondering after the state of the various suspend/sleep/snooze/nap modes on the nc6000 with stock hoary and with the custom CD... | 01:02 |
lamont__ | and getting ready to run out the door, sadly | 01:02 |
mjg59 | lamont__: Should work fine, you might need to blacklist i2c_i801 | 01:03 |
lamont__ | hrm.. I sense an echo.... coolnes. | 01:03 |
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fabbione | morning | 05:38 |
zul | evening | 05:41 |
fabbione | hi zul | 05:45 |
zul | fabbione: i have a first version of linux-non-supported-modules ill put the *.gz and debian/ directory in baz tomorrow, well make the *.gz accesible, im having problems generating the amd64 stuff debs though | 05:45 |
fabbione | .gz??? | 05:45 |
zul | i put all the drivers in a tar.gz file | 05:46 |
fabbione | why?= | 05:46 |
zul | how would you do it? | 05:46 |
fabbione | put them directly in a .deb? | 05:46 |
zul | linux-non-supported-modules-2.6.12-1-386_2.6.12-1_i386.deb | 05:47 |
fabbione | so where the tar.gz comes from? | 05:47 |
zul | heh its still a work in progress | 05:47 |
zul | i created a directory with the external drivers and tarred it up | 05:48 |
fabbione | there is very little point in tarring it up | 05:48 |
fabbione | you can just move the modules in a dir and create the deb out of it | 05:48 |
zul | well i discovered that when i was doing it | 05:48 |
zul | :) | 05:48 |
fabbione | yeah but that's the way you really want to do it | 05:49 |
fabbione | :) | 05:49 |
zul | :P | 05:49 |
fabbione | but don't worry.. just finish what you are doing | 05:49 |
fabbione | i will give it a clean afterwards :) | 05:49 |
zul | yeah its my first real deb | 05:49 |
fabbione | ehehhe | 05:49 |
fabbione | don | 05:49 |
zul | gee thanks :) | 05:49 |
fabbione | don't worry | 05:49 |
fabbione | you are doing a great job | 05:49 |
zul | ill get the hang of it eventually...ebuilds were so much easier ;) | 05:49 |
zul | still evil though | 05:50 |
zul | oh yeah i have another interview next week | 05:50 |
zul | i need to learn about sybase though :( | 05:51 |
fabbione | amen | 05:52 |
fabbione | sybase sucks | 05:52 |
fabbione | :) | 05:52 |
zul | it looks like postgresql though...am reading sybase 101 | 05:53 |
fabbione | eheh | 05:54 |
fabbione | i am pushing the orig.tar.gz for rc6 on people.u.c | 05:55 |
fabbione | it will take a little while | 05:55 |
zul | k cool.. | 05:55 |
zul | im thinking of a way to get kdb with the kernels without having to enable config_debug | 05:55 |
infinity | Sybase is simple. | 05:56 |
zul | looks like it | 05:56 |
zul | bbl | 06:04 |
fabbione | later | 06:06 |
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fabbione | the orig diff.gz and dsc for 2.6.11.94 are in the usual place | 06:45 |
zul | 686-dbg is only 147M | 07:03 |
zul | :) | 07:03 |
zul | i think i fixed my puter freezing | 07:04 |
zul | disable xscreensaver | 07:06 |
fabbione | oh | 07:07 |
zul | night...my wife starts to have panic attacks if she wakes up and im not there | 07:14 |
fabbione | good night zul | 07:15 |
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lamont | build-deps even | 07:22 |
lamont | .94 is -rc6? | 07:22 |
fabbione | hey lamont | 07:23 |
fabbione | yes it's rc6 | 07:23 |
lamont | ok | 07:23 |
lamont | I should have an hppa merge sometime this week, I expect | 07:23 |
fabbione | lamont: i had to bump build-deps | 07:23 |
fabbione | i know i could have make them more arch specific | 07:23 |
fabbione | but it's a royal pain :) | 07:23 |
lamont | heh | 07:23 |
lamont | part of it is not knowing _why_ they were reved... but I expect that's just a matter of reading the changelog better... | 07:24 |
fabbione | lamont: ppc64 mostlikely | 07:24 |
fabbione | i am pretty sure i wrote it in the changelog | 07:24 |
lamont | cool | 07:24 |
fabbione | - Bump build-dep on gcc-3.4 (>= 3.4.4-0ubuntu4) and kernel-package | 07:24 |
fabbione | (>= 8.135ubuntu2)for ppc biarch support. | 07:24 |
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lamont | Total 1711 package(s) in state Installed. | 07:25 |
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fabbione | suckage | 07:25 |
fabbione | i am eons behind that | 07:25 |
fabbione | because i am too lazy to check the C++ transition status | 07:25 |
lamont | well, there's something like 4400 needs-build | 07:25 |
lamont | 4467 | 07:25 |
fabbione | i have around 3000 needs-build i guess | 07:25 |
lamont | anyway, g'night | 07:26 |
fabbione | i will need to hunt down doko to check the C++ transition with me | 07:26 |
fabbione | good night | 07:26 |
fabbione | cya later | 07:26 |
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fabbione | mjg59: around? | 09:30 |
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mjg59 | fabbione: Hi | 10:41 |
fabbione | hey mjg59 | 10:41 |
fabbione | some bits of the big fat acpi patch are upstream | 10:41 |
fabbione | i did a rediff with 12rc6 | 10:41 |
mjg59 | Oh, urgh | 10:41 |
mjg59 | Thanks | 10:41 |
fabbione | but i hope i got all of them | 10:41 |
fabbione | it builds.. so it's ready for warty ;) | 10:41 |
mjg59 | Haha | 10:43 |
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zul | heylo | 02:05 |
fabbione | hey zul | 02:05 |
zul | hey fabbione how goes it? | 02:05 |
fabbione | i have rc6 almost ready to hit the archive :) | 02:05 |
fabbione | waiting for ppc to finish to build | 02:06 |
zul | it didnt segfault? | 02:06 |
fabbione | oh yeah several times | 02:06 |
zul | heh | 02:06 |
fabbione | but it seems to be a problem on the porting box rather than the software | 02:06 |
fabbione | on the buildd it just work 99% of the time | 02:07 |
zul | well thats good then :) | 02:07 |
fabbione | zul: 11602 | 02:13 |
fabbione | want to take a look? | 02:13 |
zul | sire | 02:32 |
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mdke | hi all. is it safe to say that https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10512 is a kernel issue? would it be alright to change package:UNKNOWN to "linux"? | 02:33 |
fabbione | mdke: you should ask mjg59 | 02:39 |
fabbione | i am not sure that stuff is X or kernel related | 02:40 |
fabbione | specially given the fact that it works -> play DVD -> doesn't work | 02:40 |
mdke | fabbione, i'm pretty sure that's unrelated | 02:40 |
mdke | it was probably a kernel update that the reporter didn't notice | 02:41 |
mdke | i talked to mjg59 about the bug the other day, he wasn't sure | 02:41 |
fabbione | neither am i | 02:41 |
mdke | i'll test more | 02:41 |
mdke | i'll do a default hoary install on it today | 02:41 |
fabbione | try with different kernels | 02:41 |
fabbione | using exactly the same userland | 02:42 |
fabbione | that will shed light | 02:42 |
mdke | fabbione, ok basically I can spend today testing with a new hoary install. What kernels do you want me to test? | 02:42 |
fabbione | 2.6.8.1 from warty 2.6.10 from hoary and 2.6.12 from breezy | 02:42 |
fabbione | skip 2.6.11 | 02:42 |
mdke | ok | 02:43 |
fabbione | if you keep the same userland aka: no binary drivers, same version of Xorg and so on | 02:43 |
mdke | right | 02:43 |
fabbione | you will be able to isolate the problem | 02:43 |
mdke | i'm pretty sure its not X related, the problem occurs before X starts too | 02:43 |
mdke | but i will test properly and post | 02:43 |
mdke | thanks | 02:44 |
mdke | *grins* ok I can already say that its not working properly with the hoary install kernel | 02:52 |
fabbione | mdke: well.. welcome to provide us a patch with the fix :) | 02:55 |
mdke | :-( | 02:55 |
mdke | fabbione, i can't fix it :( | 02:58 |
fabbione | tought luck | 02:58 |
mdke | you guys won't fix it? | 02:59 |
mdke | i'll try and help by testing and reporting on the bug report | 02:59 |
fabbione | mdke: if there is no patch from upstream... no | 02:59 |
fabbione | also hoary won't get that kind of fixes | 02:59 |
fabbione | so just hope that it works with 2.6.12 | 02:59 |
mdke | aw merda | 03:00 |
fabbione | that sounds like italian shit | 03:00 |
mdke | i've had some many problems with this laptop and linux | 03:00 |
mdke | some/so | 03:00 |
mdke | it worked perfectly in the days of 2.6.7 | 03:01 |
mdke | fabbione, so i should point that bug upstream? where can i report it? | 03:05 |
fabbione | mdke: i dunno who is responsible for hotkeys stuff | 03:10 |
fabbione | really ask mjg59 is your best bet | 03:10 |
fabbione | also.. did you try 2.6.12? | 03:10 |
mdke | not yet, still installing hoary right now | 03:10 |
mdke | i wonder if it is just a hotkeys issue | 03:10 |
fabbione | it mostlikely is | 03:11 |
mdke | the laptop makes some quite strange buzzing noises after being switched to ac power, and the screen brightness doesn't drop/raise when AC is disconnected/connected | 03:12 |
fabbione | ok add all the info to the bug. it's probably acpi that is broken | 03:12 |
fabbione | or your bios | 03:12 |
mdke | I thought it was a hardware problem until I installed windows the other day, and it worked perfectly | 03:13 |
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fabbione | (playground will be available in a couple of minutes) | 03:31 |
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zul | fabbione: for the usb bug he says it works with the 386 kernel | 03:52 |
fabbione | eh | 03:52 |
fabbione | SMP problem? | 03:53 |
fabbione | if so... that's so out of my hand :) | 03:53 |
zul | but he is connecting the 1.1 devices to 2.0 ports | 03:53 |
zul | yeah | 03:53 |
fabbione | well usb doesn't really have 1.1 or 2.0 ports | 03:53 |
zul | and he is checking for bios update as well | 03:53 |
fabbione | they share the same phys port given the controller behind deciding the protocol | 03:53 |
fabbione | ook 2.6.11.94-1.1 is up | 03:54 |
fabbione | it builds everywhere | 03:54 |
fabbione | i am off for the day | 03:54 |
fabbione | KTHXBYE | 03:54 |
zul | c ya | 03:54 |
mdke | fabbione, am downloading some kernels to try. I've downloaded linux-image-2.6.8.1-3-686_2.6.8.1-16 from archive.ubuntu.com, is that right? where can I get the breezy one? | 04:17 |
fabbione | mdke: same place.. just a dir up | 04:19 |
dilinger | oh | 04:20 |
dilinger | jbailey: ping | 04:20 |
mdke | fabbione, i'm at ubuntu/pool/main/l/, I can only see linux-source 2.6.10 and 2.6.8.1 | 04:20 |
jbailey | dilinger: pong | 04:20 |
dilinger | did you see the ide device driver model merge in rc6? | 04:21 |
dilinger | commit 8604affde9d4f52f04342d6a37c77d95fa167e7a | 04:21 |
jbailey | dilinger: I did. =) | 04:21 |
jbailey | Fabio's working on those right now, I think. | 04:22 |
dilinger | cool | 04:22 |
jbailey | I'm wondering what I'll have to change in the hotplug autodetection before people suddenly find themselves unable to use their CDroms and such. =) | 04:22 |
jbailey | dilinger: BTW, I saw in #u-d that you were reading my testsuite stuff in cdbs? Did you have any comments on it? | 04:23 |
jbailey | dilinger: I'd like to push a few more tests into there in the next couple of days (the old tests, plus some multipass stuff) | 04:24 |
mdke | can anyone help me out in finding the breezy kernel? i'm looking for a url. sorry... | 04:24 |
dilinger | jbailey: i need to look closer at it | 04:25 |
dilinger | i was just skimming through | 04:25 |
jbailey | mdke: Finding? Err.. What are you trying to do? =) | 04:25 |
jbailey | dilinger: Ah, no worries then. | 04:25 |
mdke | jbailey, download it and install it on my hoary system to test something | 04:25 |
fabbione | mdke: 2.6.12 is in universe | 04:26 |
mdke | ahhh | 04:26 |
mdke | thanks! | 04:26 |
jbailey | mdke: Careful when pulling random bits down. A newer initrd-tools against a breezy glibc causes unbootable systems. | 04:26 |
fabbione | dilinger: i already uploaded rc6 | 04:26 |
mdke | jbailey, ok thanks for the heads up | 04:26 |
jbailey | mdke: Err, against a hoary glibc. | 04:26 |
jbailey | mdke: *isgh* I'm on crack. hoary initrd-tools against a breezy glibc. | 04:27 |
mdke | *grins* | 04:27 |
mdke | a bet crack is necessary in your line of work | 04:27 |
mdke | a/i | 04:27 |
mdke | jbailey, thanks tho I will try and see | 04:27 |
jbailey | It's a fringe benefit. =) | 04:27 |
mdke | jbailey, i am just gonna test all the kernels I find | 04:28 |
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mdke | will I need to install a newer initrd-tools on hoary to test the 2.6.12 kernel, or should I force install it and try without? | 04:37 |
zul | fabbione: its an smp issue for the usb buglet | 04:37 |
zul | hehehe...http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/WeirdNews/2005/06/07/1075697-ap.html | 04:39 |
jbailey | mdke: I don't recall any new features in the initrd that are important. Let the depends line guide you, though. | 04:42 |
mdke | hmm | 04:43 |
mdke | if I install a new initrd on hoary will the old kernels boot? | 04:43 |
jbailey | initrd's are specific to the kernels. | 04:44 |
jbailey | Just don't delete the old ones. =) | 04:44 |
mdke | ok cool | 04:44 |
mdke | jbailey, thanks! | 04:44 |
mdke | fabbione, ok i have clarified https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10512 a bit more, thanks for your help | 04:49 |
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mjg59 | Do we ship the zd1211 driver? | 06:22 |
mjg59 | Hngh. Sourceforge is being *very* slow | 06:23 |
zul | mjg59: is that a wireless card? | 06:37 |
zul | sourceforge sucking huge today | 06:37 |
mjg59 | Yeah, USB 11g thing | 06:40 |
zul | nope we dont | 06:40 |
mjg59 | Seems to be GPLed, might be worth sticking in | 06:44 |
mjg59 | Buils with kbuild | 06:44 |
zul | cool..send me a url and ill add it.. | 06:46 |
mjg59 | http://heanet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/zd1211/sf_zd1211_20050315_src.tar.gz | 06:51 |
zul | got it | 06:52 |
zul | will make a patch for it tonight...need to start cleaning the house | 06:54 |
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chmj | hello | 07:12 |
chmj | do we have a 2.4 kernel for ubuntu ? | 07:32 |
fabbione | no | 08:18 |
fabbione | and breezy cannot run on 2.4 | 08:18 |
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chmj | can hoary ? | 08:24 |
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jbailey | No | 08:27 |
jbailey | There are no ubuntu release that support 2.4 | 08:27 |
infinity | ... | 08:41 |
infinity | Support, or "support"? | 08:42 |
infinity | If you have a glibc with LinuxThreads, you can run 2.4... | 08:42 |
infinity | (modutils helps too, if you happen to like modules, and it's always been there) | 08:42 |
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jbailey | infinity: Well, that assumes that anything that is now looking at /sys and such still has all the fallbacks. | 08:48 |
snow | anyone alive? | 08:57 |
snow | one question guys. i try to inst 5.10 but the f. machine (intel) says its not able to mount a filesys ext2 (or ext3) on /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc1 - i have tried lots of things | 08:58 |
zul | i think you might want to try #ubuntu | 09:00 |
snow | have done that several times, no help found - do you have an idea? | 09:00 |
zul | snow: this not between #ubuntu-devel and #ubuntu, this is a kernel development channel | 09:01 |
snow | sorry guys, you may be the only one whos able to help... should i instead resign? | 09:02 |
fabbione | snow: 5.10 is not even released | 09:02 |
fabbione | install 5.04 | 09:02 |
zul | oh hey fabbione :) | 09:03 |
snow | i know o know, but i want breezy!! i will help reporting bugs | 09:03 |
snow | 5.04 is working very good | 09:03 |
fabbione | snow: the error you see is installer related. not kernel | 09:03 |
fabbione | snow: install 5.04 and upgrade if you want to run breezy | 09:04 |
snow | ok | 09:04 |
snow | thanks | 09:04 |
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zul | thats not nice :) | 09:17 |
zul | fabbione: wtf is a mungbean? | 09:18 |
dilinger | http://kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=49cabf49abd7676d026a61baabf5aae9337a82be | 09:53 |
dilinger | ubuntu can start shipping tg3, now | 09:54 |
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jbailey | dilinger: Eh? =) | 11:10 |
jbailey | dilinger: Admitting that the firmware is stolen makes it distributable? =) | 11:11 |
dilinger | ? | 11:11 |
dilinger | broadcom owns the copyright | 11:12 |
dilinger | they've given us a license that allows redistribution | 11:12 |
jbailey | Oh, I see. =) | 11:12 |
jbailey | I was looking at it as "YEs, Broadcom owns this. We stole it. Give it away!" | 11:12 |
dilinger | http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2005/06/msg00146.html | 11:13 |
dilinger | and other related threads on d-k | 11:13 |
jbailey | Cool. | 11:14 |
jbailey | I Was lucky all my tg3 boxes were happy even without firmware./ | 11:14 |
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