[12:00] oh [12:00] but good for security [12:00] great, thanks guys [12:00] I can resolve DNS names === henriquemaia [~henriquem@cb-217-129-171-196.netvisao.pt] has joined #ubuntu [12:00] I can connect to the web via Firefox if I disable ipv6 in firefox... [12:00] Tyche: yes on the ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ there is a thing with "fix video resolution" in the title [12:00] there are too many ppl in this room === sorush20 [~sadaf@82-43-184-143.cable.ubr07.newm.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [12:00] speaking @ the same time === Seveas is off, there's a meeting now [12:00] Tyche: that should fix you up [12:00] I tried disabling ipv6 altogether === faul [~faul@180.241.98-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:00] cya all later [12:00] actually i was reading something about ipv6 causing problems earlier on LQ [12:00] Tyche: and if it doesnt, use VESA [12:00] ok someone hold the fort.. [12:00] lsuactiafner, keep it sane :) [12:00] i'm going also [12:01] ah ok === quittt [pedro@200-160-78-143.user.ajato.com.br] has joined #ubuntu [12:01] well, anarchy is about to begin than ;) [12:01] any one got any clue how to fix flash sound in firefox? I've tried everything i can think of, just can't figure it out. === quittt [pedro@200-160-78-143.user.ajato.com.br] has left #ubuntu ["Fui] === lotusleaf blows dust off sword, taps it against forehead, chuckles [12:01] I'm unable to install flashplayer on firefox.... [12:01] SirMud, I had that issue until I closed off the browser - logged out and logged in again :) [12:01] why do we build castles in the sky? to make it more difficult to siege.. get your tribuche up here beech!! [12:01] SirMud, yes [12:01] seveas thx for your help [12:01] has anyone else had the same problem [12:01] either than that. Ubuntu works pretty flawlessly. Except for this whole ipv6 deal :( === benny__ [~benny@p54BE3A24.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:01] SirMud does sound work at all? [12:01] look at the hoarysoundproblems page in the wiki === gamemastax` [gamemastax@68-235-3-101.sbtnvt.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:02] o yea, sound works great in everything else, just flash, and i've restarted a couple of times [12:02] hey everyone [12:02] SirMud, flash? you mean punch the monkey flash? [12:02] cu [12:02] all [12:02] no.. flash player in FIrefox... [12:02] well, i was thinking 30 second movies reenacted by bunnies flsh [12:03] I'm unable to install it.. [12:03] :D [12:03] It tries to install the plugin from the Mozilla server but it says that it has failed.. === netmonk [~netmonk@nat-18.c0msys.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:03] sorush20, apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla [12:03] sorush20: what hardware do you have? [12:03] weird. if I enter the IP address things work fine... DNS resolves, but if I use the DNS name, things are slow. === ompaul is now known as ompaulAFK === Hoxzer` [~niko@b62-248-247-11.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu [12:04] Anyone else love to play Enemy Territory? [12:04] l8r [12:04] okay.. I'll try.. === nalioth [~Apple@cpe-66-25-43-80.houston.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu [] [12:04] Its not working i GET THE error.. [12:05] alright... [12:05] <}x{|CeRbErUs> Anyone with a belking router? [12:05] when i load up Gnome and log in, my keyboard and mouse don't respond at all... any help? === psychonate|away [~cuntface@pcp02453525pcs.lwrswt01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:06] guys ... is it possible to remove the firefox browser that comes with Ubuntu and Install it from the mozilla server instead.... [12:06] sorush20, yes [12:06] Hi. Can I get 3D support for a ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage Pro AGP 1X/ 2X ? [12:07] Are there 3D drivers for this card? [12:07] lotusleaf, i'm downloading etf right now, have you played that? [12:07] someone help me with my mouse problem, please [12:07] refuze2looze, no but I've heard it's fun === tyler_ [~tyler@c-67-183-46-124.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:07] whats better sambar or apatche [12:07] Only I think that the Ubuntu version is not fully functioning... firstly you wount be able to install extensions unless you change the version number in the about:config, and also I am still having problems installing other plugins.. like flash and realplayer.. [12:08] gamemastax: that's a problem with your x-windows setup [12:08] that's just cuz they compile their own version sorush20 === tium [~LaLu@rke75-2-82-224-222-114.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu === gamemastax` [gamemastax@68-235-3-101.sbtnvt.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:09] righto [12:09] I have a laptop [12:09] and the touchpad isn't working in gnome [12:09] whats better sambar or apatche [12:09] touchpads suck [12:09] anyone knows a place for gnome panel applets? i'm looking for xmms songticker/controller and mail notifier [12:09] apache [12:09] lotus: that may be but... how can i get it to work [12:09] you'd be better buying a cheapo optical mouse tyler [12:09] why is apatche [12:09] lol [12:10] i have a cheapo optical mouse === pietro [~pietro@host66-49.pool8252.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [12:10] well how do i get apatche to work with ubuntu.. [12:10] then why would you wanna use the touchpad? [12:10] neither work ^6 [12:10] ^^ [12:10] ah [12:10] usb? === JovenComunista [~e1980@201.249.81.219] has joined #ubuntu [12:11] yeah, touchpads are perverted, they're all like "touch me!" [12:11] anyone using lime wire here... would you recommend it ? [12:11] rofl lotusleaf [12:11] anatole: I use Mail Notification, it'll show an icon in the notification area when you have new mail. it's a really nice app === digitus [~timo@dsl-084-056-242-244.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:11] lotus: and then you do, and they are happy [12:11] yeah sirmud it's optical [12:11] it's pretty good, at least works good for me [12:11] how do i get the apatche to work! [12:11] TYLER YOU'RE ON LINUX [12:11] APACHE WAS MADE FOR LINUX >.< [12:11] if you can't get it to work man [12:11] gamemastax`: chill out. [12:11] Sorry =P [12:12] Got a bit carried away [12:12] lol [12:12] who poisoned the water supply in gamemastax` town [12:12] but i just started using linux 2 days ago and got apache installed [12:12] gamemastax`> first time? [12:12] from the command line [12:12] yeah, first time [12:12] what command line lol [12:12] what is the lime wire equivalent in linux [12:12] gamemastax`, isn't linux great? it's like a teepee, it has an apache inside [12:12] limewire [12:13] I know, lotus =P [12:13] limewire works in linux sorush [12:13] limewire is java [12:13] lotusleaf> that was corny, clever, but corny [12:13] And java works on all systems [12:13] very portable [12:13] Xappe: is that a deb? [12:13] it still sucks [12:13] Kinpi, I borrowed it from a longer, more clever quote, origin unknown ;) [12:14] anatole: yeah, it's in the repositories [12:14] hehe [12:14] saying that java is great because it works on all genders is like saying anal sex is great because it works on all genders [12:14] wait [12:14] Xappe: thx [12:14] lol gamemastax` [12:14] saying that java is great because it works on all OS's is like saying anal sex is great because it works on all genders [12:14] there we go [12:14] i think i installed something like that :p [12:14] gamemastax`> that's wrong on several levels [12:14] lol [12:14] anatole: np :) [12:14] sometimes I like to ride my bike down the highway with my feet on my ears and yelling "There's a spaceship in the sky! it's coming to land!" === _Church_of_Foamy [~shane@24-177-160-171.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:14] Can anyone help me with my mouse problem [12:15] yea, java blows, someone get me native code stat! === [koji] [~[koji] @adsl-66-142-135-93.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has left #ubuntu [] [12:15] <_Church_of_Foamy> is it just me or does kubuntu without gnome suck? [12:15] cheapo stuff is gonna be a pain [12:15] Xappe: but where do i configure it? [12:15] gamemastax`, you might want to run a search on linuxquestions.org for this issue I've seen it come up several times [12:15] ubuntu is great with or without gnome [12:15] _Church_of_Foamy> it's supposed to suck [12:15] you just have to be all 1337 h4x [12:15] ubuntu didn't have any problem with my $5 walmart optical mouse [12:15] kubuntu isn't supposed to have gnome heh === shodan_ [~shodan@p54941EC3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu [12:16] <_Church_of_Foamy> i know but you can install ubuntu and get the kde later [12:16] and the 10 year old keyboard [12:16] <_Church_of_Foamy> and it seems to work better than if you just install kubuntu === disasm [disirc@69-162-7-12.stcgpa.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:16] heck my scanner was easier to install than it was in windows :p [12:17] _Church_of_Foamy> i'll have to try that [12:17] SirMud> so was mine, it did it for me lol [12:17] *to linux gods* thank you for informative error messages! === Matrice64 [~matrice64@c-67-191-187-174.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:17] <_Church_of_Foamy> cool [12:17] <_Church_of_Foamy> i am interested in others opinions about this [12:17] Is there a howto for ATI drivers in Ubuntu? [12:18] yea, theres a good one on the wiki [12:18] <_Church_of_Foamy> it seems like it does run faster but something just doesen't seem right [12:18] i got mine installed with only a few hitches psych [12:18] psychonate, here's my howto: ebay the ATI card, buy nvidia [12:18] anatole: System --> Preferences --> Mail Notification === Xyrouz [~Xyrouz@0x3e42bd6c.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu [12:18] <_Church_of_Foamy> i think kubuntu needs the ubuntu half to run right lol [12:18] lotusleaf, it's an old ATI 3D rage pro [12:18] this machine is basically spare parts [12:18] <}x{|CeRbErUs> How do u let apache listen only on local ip's === seb128_ [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-61-2.w83-196.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu === bigbill52a [~bill@24-55-219-216.losaca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu === xMaximex [~xmaximex@edgeforce.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:19] psychonate, you know what I suggest for old ATI cards? remove it from box, grab one end, have a friend grab the other end, pull in opposite directions, whomever gets the largest piece gets to make a wish [12:19] psychonate: search for firegl and see if the card is supported by that, i'd only install it if you're havin problems though [12:19] how do you get a mic working on ubuntu? === motaboy [~motaboy@host191-41.pool80182.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [12:19] <_Church_of_Foamy> yea i mean it's weard when i had ubuntu with kde wine worked well..... === motaboy [~motaboy@host191-41.pool80182.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu ["Konversation] [12:19] lotusleaf> lol === doza [~doza@80.48.149.129] has joined #ubuntu [12:19] <_Church_of_Foamy> now it just gives me errors [12:20] cyphase: unmute it in the volume thingy === confrey [~dario@151.81.4.113] has joined #ubuntu === bucky [~bucky@bucky.active.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu [12:20] <_Church_of_Foamy> and won't run my games [12:20] cyphase: I just plugged mine in and unmuted it [12:20] utk3 [12:20] ut2k3 [12:20] ah [12:20] unmute [12:20] lol [12:20] o come on, bzflag is the shiznit [12:20] SirMud, I just want 3D support. Does not having 3D support qualify as a "problem?" [12:21] <_Church_of_Foamy> i thought just having kubuntu would be cool [12:21] <_Church_of_Foamy> now i'm not so shure :/ === syntaxerror64 [~dan@pcp03934904pcs.sthind01.mo.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:21] i ran 3d without firegl just fine [12:21] cept nexuiz, can't get it to run good even in windows, am i alone? [12:22] SirMud, with generic drivers? [12:22] SirMud, I mean, with the default drivers? [12:22] it runs the same as it did before i installed firegl [12:22] alright... === Bazzi- [Bastian@p5484CF25.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:22] my touchpad works in windows, but not in linux [12:22] fair enough lol === anto9us [~antoninus@cpc2-ptal1-5-1-cust109.swan.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:22] no idea [12:22] Xappe: thx i think it will work now... how often does it checks the mailboxes? [12:23] does anyone know how to install java runtime on linux === stars [~distant@24-176-75-077.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:23] but when you install firegl you can't change your resolution with the applet in the system menu anymore === Matrice64 [~matrice64@c-67-191-187-174.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:23] gamemastax`, did you search LinuxQuestions.org like I suggested? [12:24] gamemastax`> i assume the company's website(if it has one) has no drivers? [12:24] sorush20: use synaptic, it works for me [12:24] it might if its a IBm laptop gamemastax [12:24] hondje, you still here? [12:24] syntaxerror64: kinda :) [12:24] anatole: can't you set that yourself? [12:25] hondje, what do you like to use to listen to music in ubuntu [12:25] er, I'm fairly sure there is absolutely no 3D support going on ATM [12:25] in vim I just pressed 'u' to undo and lost a bunch of changes. can I hit anything to 'redo'? [12:25] syntaxerror64: U usually use rhythmbox [12:25] has anyone actually gotten amd64, hoary64, and ati's 64 bit driver to work in ubuntu? [12:25] psychonate, why do you need it when you have nethack? :P [12:26] hondje, thank you i will try it then [12:26] psychonate, did you try searching the ubuntu forums about thsi? [12:26] this* [12:26] syntaxerror64, hondje, I dicovered mpd + gmpc a couple of days ago. it's great :) [12:26] Xappe, do you like it better than rhythmbox? [12:26] 3D support for ATI is still quite lacking, hopefully they'll fix it sometime, but i wouldn't count on it being soon they just don't devote the people to development === tyler_ [~tyler@c-67-183-46-124.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:27] thats depressing for me [12:27] or apatche how do u run all the commands? [12:27] Xappe: oh great it works thanks [12:27] does Beagle in backports work okay? [12:27] syntaxerror64: yes. but mainly cause i'm able to change songs over my local network :) [12:27] i got winxp 64 running great on my new sys but can't get X in hoary64 [12:27] SirMud: did you use java-common package... [12:27] lemme check :p [12:27] SirMud, the free R300 driver (at r300.sourceforge.net) seems to be actually making steady progress, by the way === anubisds [~anu@pcp04417841pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:28] Xappe, i will give it a try also. i can not find an EQ in rhythmbox. [12:28] how do u use the apatche commands [12:28] hmm, haven't checked into it in a while may be i should :p [12:28] 'course, it'll probably be a while still before it's production quality and included everywhere [12:29] syntaxerror64: dunno if you can use an EQ with mpd though. it's quite simple I guess...but i've only used the main features [12:29] and it's not as easy as rythmbox to get going [12:29] *sigh* how do i start apatche [12:30] Xappe, do you know if it's possible to playe monkeys audio ape files in ubuntu? [12:30] playe = play [12:30] man my fonts are all messed up in KDE :( [12:30] how to fix? [12:30] apparently sorush20 limewire uses its own javaVM, thats the only java program i got, lemme see if java works in firefox real quick === jsgotangco [~jsg@202.57.71.236] has joined #ubuntu [12:31] <_Church_of_Foamy> i think i'm gonna reinstall ubuntu then get kde [12:31] <_Church_of_Foamy> just the kubuntu install sucks [12:31] just get kubuntu, then it'll be the default. === shido6 [~shido@d57-87-253.home.cgocable.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:31] <_Church_of_Foamy> i have kubuntu [12:31] syntaxerror64: I don't even know what that is ;) [12:31] I installed kde on ubuntu and now my fonts in KDE suck :P [12:31] <_Church_of_Foamy> it dosent "feel right" === caffinated wonders how people use kde without becoming angry. [12:32] Xappe, guess not then... lol. :) === aperson is away: [3 [12:32] <_Church_of_Foamy> well i like ubuntu and kubuntu [12:32] <_Church_of_Foamy> it's hard to choose between the 2 [12:32] not for me === caffinated flushes kde :) [12:32] <_Church_of_Foamy> like my teamspeak won't run with ubuntu but will with kubuntu [12:32] <_Church_of_Foamy> so i assume i need kubuntu [12:33] probably not [12:33] are they really that different? i thought the only difference was the WM [12:33] sorush20: i must of downloaded java straight from sun cuz firefox java works [12:33] syntaxerror64: http://www.musicpd.org/ [12:33] you probably just need some of the kde libraries === debugger_ [Rui@217.129.148.164] has joined #ubuntu [12:33] <_Church_of_Foamy> oh ok [12:33] those are easy to come by though [12:33] <_Church_of_Foamy> ok [12:33] why does my Windows key not pop up the menu [12:33] you have to assign it to that [12:33] gamemastax`> i need to fix that too [12:33] how [12:33] <_Church_of_Foamy> yea i mean i kinda like kde it seems to have more features than ubuntu [12:34] _Church_of_Foamy: you're not really comparing kde to ubuntu. you're comparing kde to gnome. === pschulz01 [~paul@fixed-203-87-111-72.sa.chariot.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [12:34] <_Church_of_Foamy> oh ok [12:34] how do i bind my keys === conffrey [~dario@151.81.5.144] has joined #ubuntu [12:34] <_Church_of_Foamy> in that case i don't know then lol [12:34] system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts [12:34] click open panel and push the windows key [12:34] the mess of crap is what i hate about kde. it's too cluttery, too unclean. [12:34] i can't move my mouse [12:34] how do i pop open the menu [12:34] they try to cram too much stuff in to things in the quest for customizability. [12:35] correction, its show the panel [12:35] <_Church_of_Foamy> so i am better off just using ubuntu [12:35] and in the end, gnome does a better job of it. === rick_ [~rick@adsl-223-76-185.aep.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:35] alt f1 [12:35] well, in the end, it's user opinion. but if i were asked, i'd use gnome. [12:35] <_Church_of_Foamy> but what about my teamspeak it won't run in ubuntu === }x{|CeRbErUs [Flodder13X@d54C3C5F6.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu [12:35] _Church_of_Foamy: i'm sure it will. check the requirements page on the teamspeak site. [12:35] Xappe, thanks i downloaded it. although i'm a linux newbie so installing that will be a challenge. [12:35] you're probably just missing a library [12:36] <_Church_of_Foamy> ok === }x{|CeRbErUs [Flodder13X@d54C3C5F6.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu [12:36] <_Church_of_Foamy> i'm gonna download the ubuntu iso again [12:36] <_Church_of_Foamy> and switch back becuase kubuntu sucks (atleast without gnome) [12:36] i had to download the "install" iso a couple of times to get the md5 to match [12:36] ah what the hell [12:37] xfs wasnt installed, no wonder it looks like ass === rwabel [~rwabel@gw.ptr-80-238-205-38.customer.ch.netstream.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:37] man do i love cable :p [12:37] how do i log on as root [12:37] I installed ubuntu and add the marillat repository and installed libdvdcss2..Yet I still get the following error trying to play dvds in totem. "There were no decoders found to handle the stream...you might need to install the corresponding plugins" Anybody know why? [12:37] sudo -s === topyli [~juha@dsl-hkigw3pa5.dial.inet.fi] has left #ubuntu [] [12:37] hi [12:37] <_Church_of_Foamy> can i still use amor in ubuntu? [12:37] I've a question about having a second soundcard beyond the onboard one. [12:37] how can i get the ksynaptics package [12:37] does Beagle in backports work okay? [12:38] rwabel, how to make the other one default? [12:38] <_Church_of_Foamy> i like my little onscreen kitty === dave__ [~dave@d207-81-48-87.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:38] mjr: well do I need to disable the onboard one or can I use both? === alexmr [~alexmr@200.139.140.128] has joined #ubuntu [12:38] rick_: did you try the optional ubuntu repositories? === JovenComunista [~e1980@201.249.81.219] has joined #ubuntu [12:38] hello === anubisds [~anu@pcp04417841pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:39] rwabel, you can use both; see what driver the onboard sound uses, then add to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base "options snd-whateveryouhave index=-2" to make it the non-default [12:39] portugues [12:39] syntaxerror64: the only problem I had was to get the right settings for the sound output. but when I realized what I needed to do it worked like a charm. I think there is a forum thread about mpd in the ubuntu forums... [12:39] what would I do different SirMud? [12:39] <_Church_of_Foamy> anyone know if amor is just for the kde or can you use it in gnome? [12:39] _Church_of_Foamy, you can use kde apps in gnome [12:39] <_Church_of_Foamy> really? cool [12:39] mjr: and does the new one automatically get detcted? [12:39] how do I change the theme of gnome/gtk apps? [12:39] hello all people!!! How I do to run wmv on my totem player [12:39] rick_: try playing a dvd with vlc [12:39] _Church_of_Foamy, yup, just get the required libs [12:39] <_Church_of_Foamy> sweet [12:39] rwabel, hmh, what do you mean? [12:39] i like vlc much better [12:40] rwabel, it should detect them both, that only makes the internal one not be the default [12:40] <_Church_of_Foamy> i liked kde untill i tryed it without gnome it sucks :P [12:40] how do u start apatche [12:40] rwabel, and if it recognized the card too, it'll be the default in that case [12:40] _Church_of_Foamy, of course, you can also use KDE apps and Gnome apps in Fluxbox too :-) [12:40] Xappe, thanks i will check that out. [12:40] <_Church_of_Foamy> whats fluxbox? [12:40] apache* [12:40] I use klipper in Gnome [12:40] For "true" shell users-- how can I grep to find out which file in a directory contains the words "Preference"? It's been done before, but I don't remember at the moment [12:40] syntaxerror64: try also 'man mpd' [12:40] mjr: I guess I will install it and see if the new one just works. how can I find the driver of the onboard one? [12:40] tyler_: should be httpd === installing-Ubunt [~Whisky@196.204.208.25] has joined #ubuntu [12:41] i mean start the server. [12:41] <_Church_of_Foamy> lotusleaf whats "fluxbox"? [12:41] _Church_of_Foamy, fluxbox.org I believe [12:41] rwabel, well, it's one of the snd-* drivers in your lsmod output [12:41] did you try the apache documentation, from what i remember, its uber-good [12:41] fluxbox is a WM [12:41] its pretty slick [12:42] anubisds, literally :) [12:42] I <3 Fluxbox [12:42] i know what i have to do, but how do i run the commands. [12:42] mjr: snd 55268 15 snd_cmipci,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_opl3_lib,snd_hwdep,snd_mpu401_ua === installing-Ubunt Insallinh Ubuntu :) [12:42] rwabel, cmipci is probably the right one [12:42] less than three? [12:42] anyone know a good site about dvb-s? [12:42] froma terminal === installing-Ubunt is now known as Install-Ubuntu [12:42] has anyone actually gotten amd64, hoary64, and ati's 64 bit driver to work in ubuntu? pls pm me if you have i'd love to ask you a question or two :) === lotusleaf [~lotusleaf@lotusleaf.user] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:43] i know, im a newb to ubuntu and lunix, what do i type in it. [12:43] httpd [12:43] it's a bit cumbersome that the internal audio devices want to be default usually... === involved [~andre@a83-132-136-117.netcabo.pt] has joined #ubuntu [12:43] sudo apache - $make? [12:43] tyler_: applcations > system tools > terminal [12:43] <_Church_of_Foamy> wow it's pritty neat [12:43] that's how ya compile it [12:44] mjr: thanks...gona installt he new one and see what's happening [12:44] <_Church_of_Foamy> yea i think ubuntu is much better than kde [12:44] rwabel, yeah; you can try first to just put it in, but it probably won't be the default until you make that change [12:44] <_Church_of_Foamy> oh and can you use ubuntu and fluxbox ? === randabis [~randabis@cpe-67-10-186-21.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:44] (and reload sound modules or reboot the box) [12:44] <_Church_of_Foamy> or are they 2 diffrent things? [12:44] Hi guys, anyone know of any GUI based VPN client I can use in Ubuntu? [12:44] command not found.. === solarce [~solarce@host-53-225-9-69.midco.net] has joined #ubuntu === metzen [~metzen@pool-68-237-250-64.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:45] try httpd_start [12:45] Is there a way to get the nvidia-glx package installed along side X.org under Breezy? [12:45] wawa: should be a java one [12:45] command not found.. [12:46] <_Church_of_Foamy> can you use fluxbox and ubuntu or just one or the other? [12:46] apache2ctl start works I think [12:46] tyler_: hold on, ill check the docs for ya [12:46] SirMud: any, I want to connect to my University network [12:46] wawa: check synaptic for one [12:46] alternatively, try /etc/init.d/apache2 start [12:47] not found [12:47] i really don't know, can't run a server on Cox cable, violates TOS [12:47] whats the install command === george_007 [~george@sawk.hbnet.cz] has joined #ubuntu [12:47] Quest-Master: grep Preference * [12:47] <}x{|CeRbErUs> tyler_ [12:47] SirMud: they have VPNC, but doesnt have gui [12:47] <}x{|CeRbErUs> i know how to start it [12:48] <_Church_of_Foamy> do it behind a router and they can't tell [12:48] <_Church_of_Foamy> thats how i used to do it when i had cox [12:48] <}x{|CeRbErUs> try $ sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start [12:48] <}x{|CeRbErUs> ;) === jetscreamer [~jetscream@adsl-64-219-216-41.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:48] tyler_: yo install apache2, apt-get install apache2 [12:48] <}x{|CeRbErUs> it will work [12:48] How can I update a package and all the packages on which it depens? [12:48] <_Church_of_Foamy> now i use directway === solarce sighsx [12:48] -x [12:48] george_: sudo apt-get install foo === ryan_ [~ryan@159.230.128.166] has joined #ubuntu [12:49] cerberus: i could always just change the port it uses too, but i don't feel like it :-P [12:49] <}x{|CeRbErUs> what do u mean SirMud === Arrogance [~aks@CPE0013104c07d6-CM001225423850.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:49] how do i install [12:49] Xappe, i got it unpacked but the instruction on their web site will not work for me. [12:49] at some point i'll prolly get business service when im serious about it === involved [~andre@a83-132-136-117.netcabo.pt] has left #ubuntu [] [12:49] <_Church_of_Foamy> so when i get my ubuntu back can you guys help me to get the things i want? [12:50] tyler_: to verify that it is installed, you can run dpkg -l | grep apache 2, mine looks something like this http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/296779 [12:50] r@c-67-183-46-124:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start [12:50] sudo: /etc/init.d/apache2: command not found [12:50] tyler@c-67-183-46-124:~$ apt-get install apache2 [12:50] E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied) [12:50] E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root? [12:50] tyler@c-67-183-46-124:~$ [12:50] syntaxerror64: both mpd and gmpc is in the ubuntu repositories [12:50] <}x{|CeRbErUs> tyler_ [12:50] <}x{|CeRbErUs> http://ubuntuguide.org/#apachehttpserver [12:50] tyler_: pleas euse pastebin for more then one line [12:50] <_Church_of_Foamy> whoa easy on the spam man lol [12:50] stop flooding tyler_ !! [12:50] please also note that to isntall something, you need to prefix it with sudo [12:50] Xappe, i'm trying to learn here, what is mpd and gmpc? === othernoob [~othernoob@p54A2F0D8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:51] <}x{|CeRbErUs> just check out http://ubuntuguide.org/#apachehttpserver tyler_ === gK_Angel [Gravy@cpc2-duns3-5-0-cust137.lutn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #Ubuntu [12:51] thks [12:51] syntaxerror64: mpd is the music player daemon, and gmpc is a graphical client to control mpd [12:51] <}x{|CeRbErUs> and if you want to restart apache later on just use === Install-Ubuntu [~Whisky@196.204.208.25] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:51] <}x{|CeRbErUs> $ /etc/init.d/apache2 restart [12:51] Xappe, ok thanks. i unpacked, did the "./configure", "make" and "make install" but it errored at some point. [12:52] syntaxerror64: use the synaptic package manager instead === aperson is back (gone 00:20:07) [12:52] syntaxerror64: have you added all repositories? if not do that first. check the ubuntu starter guide [12:52] <_Church_of_Foamy> i was wondering why there was like only 80 people in #kubuntu [12:52] <_Church_of_Foamy> becuase it's sucky [12:52] Xappe, no probably not yet i just installed yesterday. [12:53] Xappe, i am adding those two you mentioned now tho. [12:53] i just loaded a cue in k3b's burn dvd iso, and it changed the cue/bin into a img. then i went on to burn but it only burned with 2x instead of 4x. is that normal? [12:53] can anyone recommend good cdburing software, i like gnomebaker's gui but it gave me an error when it started to burn [12:53] ok its installed [12:53] whats the command to start the server now === ice_1963 [~gary@pcp02170990pcs.brghtn01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === kyle [~gnuprophe@66.111.46.209] has joined #ubuntu [12:53] <_Church_of_Foamy> i use k3b with no problems === thenuke_ [thenuke@a84-231-97-80.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #Ubuntu [12:53] syntaxerror64: hmm, you should really really check the ubuntu starterguide [12:53] churchy, ever burned 4.4gb cue+bin with it ? [12:53] :) [12:53] <_Church_of_Foamy> um no [12:54] Xappe, i have looked over it some already yes. [12:54] <_Church_of_Foamy> i don't even know what that is lol === sorush20 [~sadaf@82-43-184-143.cable.ubr07.newm.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #ubuntu [] [12:54] othernoob: Be glad you can burn at all. ide-cd is broken, so my CyberDrive device is a reader but can't burn. [12:54] <_Church_of_Foamy> i just burn audio and vidio/data cd's [12:54] erm... is anybody running mysql con breeze? === stijnAWAY is now known as stijn === megateam [~megateam@82-33-9-94.cable.ubr14.newt.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [12:54] Jormundgand heh. yea im really happy that it took 27 minutes instead of 10..woot [12:55] i mean "breezy" :-) [12:55] othernoob : yeah I did and this is normal... sometimes the computer need to use some memory and can't go faster than 2x in you case... sometimes it might go faster sometimes not [12:55] and also that it slowed absolutely everything down to the point that i could do shit but wait [12:55] k3b is a KDE app, got one for gnome? === nootrope [~nootrope@pool-68-239-96-157.res.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:55] <_Church_of_Foamy> um no lol [12:55] syntaxerror64: hmm, I hope I didn't put you in a too difficult task now :) === jind [~jind@216-220-56.7002.adsl.tele2.no] has joined #ubuntu [12:55] skrgl gnometoast [12:55] Xappe, you have, but that's ok i want to learn. [12:55] <_Church_of_Foamy> damnit i want that burnrer program when i go back to gnome [12:56] Hey, how can i install ksynaptics [12:56] Hi, I removed my graphics card, and the x-server needs to be reconfigured to use my onboard grahics, how can I do this? [12:56] SirMud: gnometoast [12:56] i installed xcdroast, but ill be damned if i could figure it out [12:56] SirMud : well nautilus can burn iso image for cds and data but for the other stuff there is graveman (I don't know if it's in gnome) [12:56] grom the command line [12:56] gamemastax`, sudo aptitude install ksynaptics [12:56] from [12:56] thierry_ do you know a burn prog that supports bin and cue better than k3b ? [12:56] SirMud : graveman can burn anything except bin,cue and dvd copy === Shuddertrix [~Andrew@user-0cdv20s.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:56] <_Church_of_Foamy> can you run k3b in gnome? [12:56] _Church_of_Foamy, yes [12:56] <_Church_of_Foamy> sweet [12:56] i just wanna burn audio cds [12:56] <_Church_of_Foamy> ok i'm happy ^_^ [12:56] _Church_of_Foamy: sort of [12:57] Seveas, where do i need the ksynaptics package extracted to === kori[idiot] lili iwanowa - osydeni dushi [12:57] <_Church_of_Foamy> O_o [12:57] please guide me on installing this [12:57] <_Church_of_Foamy> ?? [12:57] yes [12:57] othernoob : no, really I think burning progs are the only weakness in the big family of linux progs [12:57] gamemastax`, aptitude will extract it [12:57] _Church_of_Foamy: to do so you need to install the mammoth kde libraries [12:57] where do i put the .tar.gz then? [12:57] dpkg -L ksynaptics will reveal where it is [12:57] thierry_ it appears to be so :/ [12:57] <_Church_of_Foamy> jeeze i got gigs to spare lol === tiny_linux [~tiny_linu@200.85.5.94] has joined #ubuntu === rubencillo [~rubencill@178-241-90.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu [12:57] hi y'all... i'm setting up an older dell laptop as a network monitoring workstation... what network packages for tools and utils should i install? === Cine [~luke@31.51.cm.sunflower.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:58] "package ksynaptics is not installed" [12:58] <_Church_of_Foamy> as long as i can run a few things from the kde side of things i'll be fine [12:58] where do i put the .tar.gz [12:58] thierry_ by any chance, would you happen to know why i couldn't copy the 4.4gb img file to my fat32 partition ? got an unexpected error when i tried [12:58] so I can assume no one has a clue about whether there is a way to get the nvidia X drivers working under Breezy? [12:58] hello, i have a trouble, don't have sound in my ubuntu why? somebody knows [12:58] gamemastax`, you do not need a tar.gz [12:58] where do i get the package then [12:58] you need to install it from the repositories [12:58] if it's not installed [12:58] gamemastax`, sudo aptitude install ksynaptics [12:58] please explain doing that to me [12:58] mail server under debian or ubuntu someono can help me === biff_ [~biff@ip68-9-150-238.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:58] i did that, it said package not found [12:59] anyone had any luck with logitech quick cams in ubuntu? can't seem to get mine to work... [12:59] <_Church_of_Foamy> i thought breexy was broken? [12:59] solarce: the forums probably http://ubuntuforums.org/index.php?referrerid=7995 [12:59] gamemastax`, make sure you have univers/multiverse enabled [12:59] gamemastax`: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto [12:59] "couldn't find any packages whose name or description matched 'ksynaptics'" [12:59] _Church_of_Foamy: it is, but some don't read the /topic [12:59] <_Church_of_Foamy> oh lol [12:59] I don't understand why ethereal is not in the standard apt packages? === nootrope [~nootrope@pool-68-239-96-157.res.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu [] [12:59] tiny_linux: perhaps it would be wise to read about how emails servers work _first_ wouldnt it? [12:59] othernoob : no sorry... [01:00] misfit-toy: it is in universe [01:00] misfit-toy: it is [01:00] yes this i know but i can't configure under ubuntu === kori[idiot] margarita hranowa - ostawame [01:00] Hi, I removed my graphics card, and when I re-boot the x-server needs to be reconfigured to use my onboard grahics, how can I do this? [01:00] kori[idiot] ..? [01:00] tiny_linux: how's that different to other distros/operating systems? [01:00] apt-get install ethereal yields package not found, this is on a stock installation from yesterday. [01:00] bugger it all [01:00] <_Church_of_Foamy> this sucks i jsut got my vid card to work....had to solder a new gpu into it but it works [01:01] megateam: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [01:01] I'll use my hoary install cd and start from scratch [01:01] mmm, by example i been configurated in mandrake [01:01] graveman looks cool, now to find the list of songs for the cd and ill be set [01:01] misfit-toy: use the sources, Luke.... === jorgp2 is now known as jorgp === seb__ [~seb@AOrleans-252-1-10-39.w83-115.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu === Hoxzer^^ [Hoxzer@b62-248-241-114.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu [01:01] but in ubuntu is not the same i can't configure dns === thenuke [thenuke@nuke.the-jedi.com] has joined #Ubuntu [01:01] kyle, I have a brother named kyle and I never had to kick his ass, lol === wezzer- [wezzer@ZMKDCCXLI.dsl.saunalahti.fi] has joined #ubuntu [01:01] misfit-toy: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto === tommi^ [~sir@dsl-sjkgw2c6a.dial.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu === komA is now known as koma [01:01] eyequeue, gracias [01:01] misfit-toy: de nada === misfit-toy is a fedoralito braving the ubuntu waters [01:01] kyle, thanx, will I need to re-start it then? === stazz_ [~ville@a80-186-82-63.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu === abood_ [~abood@adsl99.col1.cyberia.jo] has joined #ubuntu [01:02] megateam: restart what? [01:02] Seveas ..? === krs [~krs@ANice-252-1-23-147.w82-122.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu [01:02] a guys i just add 2gigs of ram and ubuntu seem slower whats up [01:02] * kori[idiot] margarita hranowa - ostawame <-- what's that? [01:02] nobody can help me? [01:02] flodine: free -m [01:02] hi all, guys does any body can help with how to setup an ftp server on ubuntu ? [01:02] unrealistic expectations [01:02] with my mail server(smtp,pop3) [01:02] kyle in a terminal [01:03] kyle, x-server, I'll take that as a no, (how will I get my gui back)? === solarce [~solarce@host-53-225-9-69.midco.net] has left #ubuntu [] === abood_ is now known as abood [01:03] tiny_linux: you haven't actually asked anything but only told ppl to lecture you on mail servers [01:03] tiny_linux: sudo apt-get install postfix ; sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix [01:03] Seveas, oh, sorry... khm, had no idea that /ame works on all open severs.. anyway, it's a song [01:03] megateam: restart gdm or kdm after reconfiguring and thats all === imaekphp [~imaek@adsl-69-235-160-236.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:03] tiny_linux: should be all you need [01:03] kori[idiot] , please do NOT do that in here [01:04] tiny_linux: which release did you first install? warty or hoary/ [01:04] really eyequeue [01:04] hoary [01:04] hi all, guys does any body can help with how to setup an ftp server on ubuntu ? [01:04] ... [01:04] abood, sudo aptitude install vsftpd (and read its documentation, it's not too hard) [01:05] <_Church_of_Foamy> are you running through a router? [01:05] wtf, isn't anybody here actually googling before opening their mouths? :-) [01:05] yo churchy, found anything out about icq ? [01:05] kyle: most people no. it's pretty annoying huh? [01:05] <_Church_of_Foamy> yea it dosen't have the ability to transfer files [01:05] refuze2looze: yes, sure === nootrope [~nootrope@pool-68-239-96-157.res.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:05] <_Church_of_Foamy> it's not just us [01:05] <_Church_of_Foamy> i know of 4 other people that can't use DCC or transfer files [01:06] <_Church_of_Foamy> in anyhting EXCEPT msn [01:06] Seveas, thx dude for that, do u know any online tutorial or website for the vsftpd ? [01:06] i'll try eyequeueu [01:06] <_Church_of_Foamy> i don't know why really [01:06] abood: google knows for sure [01:06] :-O [01:06] abood, if you install it, you have the manpages and /usr/share/doc/vsftpd [01:06] thanks everybody [01:06] <_Church_of_Foamy> but i think i may make a bug report or post it in the forums [01:06] I'm trying to use my USB webcam on Ubuntu... do I need to mnt it or something? everything thats supposed to use my webcam says /dev/video0 device not found [01:06] <_Church_of_Foamy> nobody seems to know exactly why [01:06] <_Church_of_Foamy> >.< [01:06] Seveas, thx i will right now :) === epohs [~Miranda@65-210-97-152.cust.dnet.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:07] i can't get my webcam to work either, i know mine is proprietery so im screwed, dang me and my cheapness [01:07] <_Church_of_Foamy> anyone else in here having problems with DCC? === Seq [~chris@CPE0050bf1a898b-CM0011ae907ae4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:08] <_Church_of_Foamy> like it don't work? [01:08] hello! i have used knoppix in the past. it has an easy way to configure my PPPoE connection. Ubuntu (hh) does not seem to. Am I missing something? [01:08] _Church_of_Foamy, please ask that in a IRC related channel [01:08] Just completed a net-install of ubuntu on an ancient laptop but eth0 isn't working now. Anyone care to help? [01:09] <_Church_of_Foamy> i thought this was an irc channel [01:09] epohs: lspci ; insmod :) === meuserj|work [~meuserj|w@12.15.33.85] has joined #ubuntu [01:09] btw, this morning I had to install modconf... missing in ubuntu? wtf?!... [01:09] it's a USB eithernet adapter... but it's listed in lsusb [01:09] <_Church_of_Foamy> i was jsut asking becuse it seems that in the last week a few people ahve noticed that DCC in ubuntu is broken === joxer [~joxer@84.234.226.242] has joined #ubuntu [01:10] ah ok, just in Ubuntu [01:10] <_Church_of_Foamy> yea [01:10] _Church_of_Foamy: iptables -L ? [01:10] <_Church_of_Foamy> sorry if i offended ya Sevwas [01:10] sorry, mate, can't help there, my DCC is broken beyond repair since i'm behind a NAT router [01:10] http://84.195.192.1:8000/ is there a site running there === JDahl [~joachim@164.67.194.223] has joined #ubuntu [01:11] is there a specific driver for the USB webcams? === tyler_ [~tyler@c-67-183-46-124.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:11] Cine: ask your vendor :) [01:11] i add ftp accsess to apache [01:11] stijn, it seems to be timing out for me [01:11] i have used knoppix in the past. it has an easy way to configure my PPPoE connection. Ubuntu (hh) does not seem to. Am I missing something? [01:11] Hi, anyone here that have eperience with using ubuntu with wine? (the windows emulator) [01:11] Cine: but most probably ignore you like shit so dont expect much [01:11] thx epohs [01:11] <_Church_of_Foamy> othernoob i'm sending you a file [01:11] nootrope: we've already read you, dont flood [01:11] stijn: are you firewalled? [01:12] joxer: i've used wine [01:12] and use it from time to time [01:12] <_Church_of_Foamy> so it's a problem with nat routers [01:12] <_Church_of_Foamy> becuse when i installed ubuntu the first time [01:12] churchy, just accepted... [01:12] <_Church_of_Foamy> DCC worked even through my router [01:12] <_Church_of_Foamy> than about a week ago it broke [01:12] sorry kyle. i guess you don't know? [01:12] i'm not sure what you meant with "lspci ; insmod", kyle === SirMud [~mud@ip70-179-233-79.dl.dl.cox.net] has left #ubuntu [] === `psycho [~psycho@83-131-67-101.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu [01:13] refuze2looze, ok, im having some problems installing programs with it, think you can help me ? [01:13] kyle, can you check again if it's running? [01:13] http://84.195.192.1:8000/ [01:13] nootrope: i don't know if there's an actual ubuntu way, but loading the propoer kernel modules and fiddling with some config files should to it === XandriX [~slack@dsl-152-42.aei.ca] has joined #ubuntu [01:13] joxer: if you state your exact problem, then maybe === omni_lonnie [~lonnie@home.limbonia.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:14] kyle: if by vendor you are referring to logitech... they don't have any linux specific stuff on their page... [01:14] joxer: i usually use cedega and crossover however [01:14] stijn: I get a "connnecting to..." message, but nothing happend [01:14] damn i'm really going nuts :)) [01:14] I don't have /etc/init.d/eth0 === br33zy [~br33zy@cpe-66-27-118-223.san.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:14] i give up :( [01:14] Cine: so it's dustbin time for your cam. Buy a supported one :) [01:14] <_Church_of_Foamy> how much is 16mb in KB? [01:14] refuze2looze, well, first of all, how do i make a partition (fat32) to show in the installer programs :/ [01:15] 16 x 1024 _Church_of_Foamy [01:15] thanks, kyle: of course. but that's not "for human beings" besides i need to use the live CD. guess no one with a DSL can connect via Live CD. === factorx [~factorx@dsl-084-060-003-178.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:15] joxer: in the wine configuration files. somewhere there's a place where you create the virtual windows drives [01:15] nootrope pppoeconf is probably the easiest way to set it up; use pon poff to control the link [01:15] cp: read error: input/output error [01:15] kyle: sheesh, didn't think the cam was that old... only a couple of years... [01:15] oh, ok, thanks XD [01:15] thanks, nickrud! [01:15] kyle, i'm not firewalled but i think my router is blocking my apache even when all ports are open :( [01:16] that was in /var/log/messages when installing base it said error retrieving adduser [01:16] what is the clean way to select my window manager of choice to start when xorg starts (instead of gnome)? [01:16] LOL! APACHE! [01:16] LOL! [01:16] freakin' injin [01:16] ? === moyogo [~moyogo@69.156.160.45] has joined #ubuntu [01:16] any ideas? === Amaranth [~travis@ip68-229-188-97.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:16] Cine: that's irrelevant most times; vendors just won't release any info on how to make their hardware work... so make sure something is supported before buying it [01:16] br33zy, how about you use GDM [01:16] br33zy, use the 'Session' button in GDM/KDM [01:16] br33zy: with gdm [01:17] without a mouse, how do i access "menus" [01:17] <_Church_of_Foamy> i think i'm just gonna switch back to ubuntu and stay there this time [01:17] oh [01:17] is that my login screen [01:17] shit i should of thgouht of htat [01:17] ok thanks everyone [01:17] stijn: wtf that means? [01:17] <_Church_of_Foamy> at least i know it works right === bizarro_paco [~jason@pcp02995861pcs.stclar01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:17] gamemastax`, not, if you have not yet created a keyboard shortcut already [01:17] stijn: you have to actually map the port in the router before trying anything :) [01:17] hello [01:17] churchy, you cant just switch now :/ [01:17] kyle: lets assume for a second that it is supported... are there some configuration settings I should check? [01:17] then I'd be the only one of us having that problem :/ [01:17] hey, thanks, kyle and nickrud. bye! [01:17] i am trying to understand apache. and i am having trouble locating my htdocs file === nootrope [~nootrope@pool-68-239-96-157.res.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu [] [01:17] i did map the port kyle [01:17] <_Church_of_Foamy> no i have the kubuntu cd installed [01:17] you know..share the pain ;) [01:18] stijn: saved an reseted the router after that? [01:18] why is GNUPlot that is in the Ubuntu repos so old? [01:18] Seveas, man its seems gr8 i already sstarted to config it ;) [01:18] Seveas, how do i create this keyboard shortcut [01:18] i mapped 8000 UDP and TCP to the ip of my server [01:18] whereas, the GNUPlot in my Windows binary is way better === wezzer- [wezzer@ZMKDCCXLI.dsl.saunalahti.fi] has joined #ubuntu [01:18] gamemastax`, using a tool you reach from the menu :D [01:18] do i need to restart it then? [01:18] stijn: depends on the router; most times yes [01:18] i can get to the keyboard things [01:18] where it lists the bindings [01:18] but i can't find the menu one [01:19] ok i'll give it a try but it never asked for it [01:19] Cine: dmesg, lsmod , ... [01:19] <_Church_of_Foamy> yea stupidly i installed just kubuntu and found out it sucks :( [01:19] _Church_of_Foamy, it's the same thing only using KDE instead of GNOME [01:19] <_Church_of_Foamy> i know but some how it's diffrent lol [01:19] Seveas: I can get to the system menu, just not the "window" menu [01:19] _Church_of_Foamy: Kubuntu is awesome [01:20] do not diss Kubuntu [01:20] <_Church_of_Foamy> yea when it's installed after ubuntu [01:20] _Church_of_Foamy, personally i think GNOME is much better than KDE [01:20] anyone here use apache? [01:20] Kubuntu is awesome, but I someone perfer installing ubuntu then installing kubuntu-desktop and removing gnome.. [01:20] any ops here? [01:20] gamemastax` are you looking for alt-space? [01:20] Not alt-space === _randabis [~randabis@cpe-67-10-186-21.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:20] <_Church_of_Foamy> shuddertrix ditto man [01:20] i mean the menus like "file, edit, help" === rwabel [~rwabel@gw.ptr-80-238-205-38.customer.ch.netstream.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:20] anyone know how to mount a 'network drive onto linux? [01:20] in windows, it's "alt" [01:20] bizarro_paco: http://httpd.apache.org === ramblingturtle23 [~ob@c-67-185-61-239.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:20] Ubuntu repos need to update their GNUPlot version -_- [01:21] <_Church_of_Foamy> i think kubuntu's good ONLY after the ubuntu install [01:21] kyle, restarted the router [01:21] bizarro_paco: hwat's a network drive? [01:21] http://84.195.192.1:8000/ [01:21] mjr: are u still there? [01:21] stijn: sure that's your actual ip? [01:21] kyle..i am tard at this stuff [01:21] 100% the router says it is === jbpeele [~jbpeele@user-24-214-24-45.knology.net] has joined #ubuntu === prevod [prevod@P1-232-20017.dialup.ns.ac.yu] has joined #ubuntu === br33zy [~br33zy@cpe-66-27-118-223.san.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:22] hi [01:22] stijn: well there's something broken there :) [01:22] biff_did you look at http://ubuntuguide.org/#networking ? [01:22] rwabel, sort of [01:22] i'll try to let apache listen local [01:22] i installed enlightenment and then fluxbox, i think fluxbox took over enlightenmnets place in the gdm sessions chooser thing, anyway i can get it back? [01:22] how do i install a Genius WebCAM V4 in ubuntu???? [01:22] :S === gylf [~gylf@c-24-11-189-61.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [01:22] mjr: sound now doesn't work. is there a way to autodetect or autoconfigure it? [01:22] Young Communist [01:22] hi - I want to convert a W2K installation to a dual-boot with Ubuntu, and I have a few questions about using PartitionMagic to shrink the current partition, and also to convert from NTFS to a FAT32 filesystem -- is anyone able to answer a few questions about this? [01:22] yeah [01:22] JovenComunista: joder otro mas con las putas camaritas? :) [01:23] :P === didymo [~ashley@CPE-61-9-197-223.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [01:23] kyle, I ran the xerver reconfiguration, answered the questions as best I could, could'nt figure out how to restart gdm (it said it is still running)? what do you think I should do? [01:23] tell me br33zy [01:23] "usbcore" appears to be the mod that is controlling my ethernet adapter (RTL8150 chipset), but when i ifconfig eth0 up, it doesn't appear to work. Ideas? :) [01:23] kyle, last try ;) === WB0TRA [~WB0TRA@69.46.204.243] has joined #ubuntu [01:23] http://84.195.192.1:8000/ [01:23] rwabel, the card should be autodetected if it's apt to [01:23] To fuck other more with the whore somethings? [01:23] JovenComunista, I dunno [01:23] megateam: /etc/init.d/gdm restart [01:23] i am new to ubuntu and i encountered a problem when changing permissions is users and groups anybody willing to help [01:23] someone help me: I need to access the menus [01:23] ramblingturtle23 ; yeh? [01:23] kyle, was that to me by any chance? === Oberone [~anon@netsvc-ext.microsource.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:23] Menus that are accessed in windows by pressing "alt" [01:23] :S [01:23] :/ [01:24] mjr: I got somekind of alsa error and I cannot play sounds. [01:24] br33zy: what? === Spug [~Spug@ti211310a081-8693.bb.online.no] has joined #ubuntu [01:24] rwabel, oh, if you made the config change I mentioned and the card actually uses the same driver, then you probably wouldn't have a default sound device [01:24] fuckit the wrong ip i'm getting tired i guess [01:24] :))) [01:24] rwabel, hmh [01:24] still timing out, stijn [01:24] http://84.195.197.246:8000/ [01:24] :))) [01:24] what the hell, enemy territory worked before i updated it, and the update made it stop working [01:24] epohs, try that one [01:24] mjr: isnt' there sth like dpkg reconfigure? [01:25] that's it! [01:25] does it work!!! [01:25] i see directory structure [01:25] weeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaa [01:25] at last [01:25] :))) [01:25] stijn: athlon mobile? [01:25] Yeah it's a laptop [01:25] noice reduction ;) === hyphenated [~caleb@222-153-170-155.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu [01:25] testphp.php works as well [01:26] This is the error that i receive after trying to login to users and groups anybody know what this means Failed to run users-admin: [01:26] Child terminated with 1 status === br33zy [~br33zy@cpe-66-27-118-223.san.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:26] ok i'm back [01:26] great now i reinstalled the old version and it doesn't work.. damn it [01:26] thanks for testing epohs and thanks for the reboot tip kyle [01:26] i installed enlgihtenment, and then fluxbox, and i think fluxbox took over enlightenment's palce in the sessions menu of gdm. How can i get enlightnemnet listed in there? === _mage_afk is now known as _mage_work [01:27] weird thing is [01:27] brb [01:27] i can't connect to it myself [01:27] I NEED HELP WTH THE CAM!!! [01:27] stijn: use localhost:8000 [01:27] :O [01:27] yeah i know [01:27] but why is it that i can't use the wan ip [01:27] stijn: ah, the joys of NATed connections :-P [01:27] when i use proxy [01:28] what command to use to see the current upload speed? [01:28] it should work right? [01:28] is there an official step-by-step guide for installing mplayer? I tried what it said at ubuntuguide.org and it doesn't appear when I do 'apt-cache search mplayer' [01:28] stijn: what proxy? [01:28] we2by : apt-get iftop [01:28] then iftop -B works for me === br33zy [~br33zy@cpe-66-27-118-223.san.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === abbe80 [~abbe80@krs-dhcp278.studby.uio.no] has joined #ubuntu [01:28] (searching the documentation at ubuntulinux.org didn't help much either) [01:28] when i connect to my server using my isp's proxy server [01:28] i should be able to connect at the wan IP [01:28] hyphenated : http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto [01:29] stijn: leh [01:29] stijn: lhew [01:29] wtf [01:29] Can not find kernel source or even headers. <--- anyone know what package I need to install to fix that? [01:29] phew, thats a bad idea [01:29] :) [01:29] lsuactiafner: uh huh.. should I trash my existing sources.list? [01:29] Cine, linux-headers-$(uname -r) [01:29] i'll use localhost:8000 ;) [01:29] Cine, linux-image-$(uname -r) [01:29] brb [01:29] seveas: is that a command? [01:30] Cine, these are the packages :) === stijn is now known as stijnAWAY [01:30] ah, ok [01:30] thanks [01:30] is 'multiverse' the important part I have missing? [01:30] anyone get odd errors from libavcodec.a? [01:30] do I apt-get them? [01:30] hyphenated: what you're missing is debian :-P [01:30] specifically w.r.t transcode? [01:31] Cine, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) [01:31] ok, gotcha [01:31] thanks again [01:31] kyle: indeed ;-) [01:31] kyle: I tried debian packages on another install, and it wouldn't play nicely === rwabel [~rwabel@gw.ptr-80-238-205-38.customer.ch.netstream.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:32] aha, it _was_ the missing multiverse [01:32] mjr: sorry plugged a cable somewhere wrong and the system hung up === [set] [~rat@adsl-65-43-179-81.dsl.clevoh.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:32] mjr: I restarted and now sound is working [01:32] someone help me: I need to access the menus... Menus that are accessed in windows by pressing "alt" === petr [~petr@r2al7.chello.upc.cz] has left #ubuntu ["Ukonuji"] === sorsis_ [~sorsis@student.merikoski.fi] has joined #ubuntu === makoto [~pablo@toronto-HSE-ppp3951085.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu [01:32] hmm... E: Invalid operation linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386 [01:33] <[set] > i do sudo apt-get install xcompmgr transset and it gives me this error> is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported [01:33] rwabel, righto, good [01:33] gamemastax`: alt + the first letter of the mnu name [01:33] THANK YOU XAPPE === fringd [~fringd@fringd.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:33] mjr: now I hope the mic is working better than with the onboard one..thanks for the help! [01:34] [set] : you really don't want that thing - it's buggy as hell [01:34] TX and RX, which one is down and which one is upload? [01:34] Hi all, can someone help me? Im trying to create a file called "57xmodmap" in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/:, but I get acces denied when trying to do it through the GUI and I don't know the command to create files... yes I'm a noob === SnakeBite [~SnakeBite@84.242.143.67] has joined #ubuntu [01:35] the very first time X fires up an openGL screensaver, X will crash if xcompmgr is enabled === tombs [~tombs@h141156.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #ubuntu [01:35] <[set] > i am on slack [01:35] makes no difference. [01:35] it's not stable yet [01:35] makoto, sudo touch /etc/X11/Xsession.d/57xmodmap will create it [01:35] makoto, sudo gedit /etc/X11/Xsession.d/57xmodmap will let you edit it [01:35] thanks Seveas [01:35] [set] : get slapt-get for slackware [01:36] Seveas : appreciate it [01:36] [set] : i prefer to use source code for slackware === pfp [~pfp@YZMCMXCIX.dsl.saunalahti.fi] has joined #ubuntu [01:36] could i place yaboot in a hfs+ partition and install to it? [01:37] devDe1ay, iirc: yes [01:37] seveas : Linux commands arent very intuitive are they? "Touch" means create file? [01:37] <`psycho> has anyone tried to copy something from or to a windows machine? [01:37] <`psycho> i get only 4MB/s?!? [01:38] TX and RX, which one is down and which one is upload? [01:38] makoto, no, touch means something else, but it can be used to simply create a file [01:38] seveas : Oh i see [01:38] touch can touch (ie: modify) the accesstimes of the file [01:38] right === pablo928 [~ubuntu@az-yuma-cuda1x-159.losaca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:38] 0.o [01:39] <`psycho> rx down [01:39] <`psycho> tx up [01:39] <`psycho> :S === thenuke [thenuke@nuke.the-jedi.com] has joined #Ubuntu [01:39] say, does anybody know if the amd64 port is solidly amd64? like, are all the modules and binaries 64 bit? === hondje [~hondje@c-67-174-186-96.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [01:39] fringd, it is. === CockRoach- [~torakka@a193-229-226-124.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu === tombs [~tombs@h141156.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #ubuntu [01:40] <`psycho> hey anyone care to help?? === xwin2 [~xwin2@168.226.128.51] has joined #ubuntu [01:41] Seveas, cool... i'm still waiting on sarge-amd64 to materialize [01:41] <`psycho> are u guys asleep or? === hoovernj [hoovernj@ip24-255-116-57.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:41] we are regenerating.. [01:41] I'm having some trouble logging into my root account [01:41] we do not sleep.. [01:42] hoovernj, what's the problem? [01:42] fringd : amd port is outstanding [01:42] how do i turn on syntax highlighting in vim? [01:42] :set syntax [01:42] :set syntax=c [01:42] etc... === disasm [disirc@69-162-7-12.stcgpa.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:42] fringd : even on slashdot ppl have said its one of the best implementations [01:43] biff_ try :syn on === Arthemys [~arthemys@dsl39.barrvtel.sover.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:43] I can't seem to modify the bootloader file in /boot/ it will not let me and it will not let me change the permissions [01:43] mjr: I've again a question about the mic volume. I've it on top but it's very low. I have a creative audigy === Cine [~luke@31.51.cm.sunflower.com] has left #ubuntu [] [01:44] Seveas: do you know what's wrong? [01:44] will syntax highlight work in gnome terminal? [01:44] biff_ : i prefer joe [01:44] hoovernj, you need to use sudo to edit files in /boot [01:45] how's that? [01:45] control t for options and control k h for help [01:45] mjr: and I've to choose OSS instead of Alsa for input === DrX [~olle@h21n2fls307o285.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:45] hoovernj, like sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst [01:45] into root console? [01:45] biff_ : highlighting should work, but cant guarntee [01:45] hoovernj, in any console === abarbaccia [~abarbacci@pcp0011109857pcs.elkrdg01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:47] how can I add words before every line in a text file? === cut0ff [~cut0ff_@DWB-113-4.go.retevision.es] has joined #ubuntu [01:48] in vim? [01:48] sure [01:48] :1,10000:s/^/your_text_here / === gfxstyler [~gfxstyler@xdslr134.osnanet.de] has joined #ubuntu [01:48] 10000 is the last linenumber [01:48] so you might need to change that [01:48] hey, here i am again [01:48] hello [01:48] hi [01:49] or simply use vim visual mode snd :<,>:s/^/words / [01:49] i need play mp3 in ubuntu [01:49] xwin2, so what? [01:49] Hi I just tested the Live version of ubunto on my laptop and it seems to work really good except that glxinfo says I don't have Direct rendering, Is there a way to check if it is possible to get GL working on my laptop before i install it (i have to format my disk that has important data on it and i don't want to do that if i have to install windows again later), I have a ATI Radeon 9700 Mobility card [01:49] lol, j/k === darmou [~darmou@CPE-144-131-13-89.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu === ja [~ja@210-55-146-51.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu [01:49] DrX: it works [01:49] DrX, needs a proprietary driver, but should work with that === prevod [prevod@P1-232-20017.dialup.ns.ac.yu] has left #ubuntu [] === ja [~ja@210-55-146-51.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has left #ubuntu [] [01:49] DrX, that will work on an installed system [01:49] DrX: i have ati radeon mobility 9600 so it should work === pablo928 [~ubuntu@az-yuma-cuda1x-159.losaca.adelphia.net] has left #ubuntu [] === spacey [~spacey@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #ubuntu [01:49] does anybody know how to show up win partitions on desktop? [01:49] great thanks === cusco [~Tiago@cpc1-swin4-4-0-cust242.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:49] xwin2, is it not working? === ja [~ja@210-55-146-51.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu [01:50] does anyone know if gnomemeeting cam works with netmeeting ? [01:50] for example in radio online [01:50] gfxstyler, in some cases [01:51] gfxstyler :in thoery, if you can get your cam working to start with === ricardo [~LV@ALamentin-101-1-10-247.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu [01:51] ive never had success with my webcam.. can only take pictures but not stream [01:51] xwin2, are you trying to play an mp3 from your hard drive, or are you streaming from someplace? === abbot45 [~abbot45@c66.168.21.183.mad.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:51] i cannot get it to run with netmeeting, the connection always interrupts after a few minutes and cam does not work for others [01:52] lsuactiafner: well i got luck and one of the webcams worked :) [01:52] awsome thanks Seveas [01:52] cut0ff : run df then check whats mounted, run cfdisk /dev/hda or /dev/sdc to check partitions [01:52] cyphase, i trying to play streaming [01:52] can someone pleas help me get ndiswrapper running on my friends computer? === mauro [~mauro@132.248.209.200] has joined #ubuntu [01:52] xwin2, try totem [01:52] there is a ndiswrapper guide on wiki but dont know link.. [01:52] lsuactiafner: the ov511 didnt because of jpeg compressed pictures, but the spca5xx works good [01:53] will look into it, much newer kernel now [01:53] lsuactiafner, i know, ive been following it. im having problems though. [01:53] abbot45: do you get "Essid:off/any" even if you set the essid? thats my problem too === falcon-05 [~station@falcon.suryadata.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:54] abbot45 : hmmk cant help you tho, no xp with that. keep asking every 5 minutes or so [01:54] till someone taks pity on you [01:55] my drivers keep saying "invalid driver" when i do ndiswrapper -l even though the guides say im using the right ones for my card. === merhojt [~jimmy@h200n1c1o885.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:55] lspci ; lsusb [01:55] make sure the chipset is the same === darko__ [~moo2345@ti211310a081-0675.bb.online.no] has joined #ubuntu === eriksays [~matt@172.180.8.67.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has left #ubuntu ["I'm] [01:56] cyphase, thanks === br33zy [~br33zy@cpe-66-27-118-223.san.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:56] hi [01:56] hi [01:56] where do i define the number of workspaces I want? [01:56] as I can mount a partition ntfs, for all the users? [01:56] fluxbox isn't letting me switch from workspace 1 [01:56] this file has lines like food, car, house, .... i need it to look like food", "car", "house", .. how can i do that in vim? === CarlFK [~CarlK@c-67-163-11-11.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:56] biff_, regex? [01:57] biff_, i think you can do regex stuff in vim with s/ and shit [01:57] <`psycho> please my i get some assistance? [01:57] <`psycho> ._. [01:58] `psycho: whats your problem? [01:58] how do i keep my flash app(N - the ninja game) from lagging? how do i speed up flash? [01:58] I heard that there should be a KDE version of ubuntu, Kubuntu where can i get it ? [01:58] <`psycho> problem with the speed of my lan [01:58] <`psycho> i get 4MB/s [01:58] <`psycho> max [01:59] <`psycho> and i know i measured before a win2win transfer wich reached 9MB/s [01:59] `psycho : your wire might not be nice to G_transfers === mk [~mk@69.182.251.46] has joined #ubuntu [01:59] so i'd need to change every comma to look like ", " how can i do that with vim? [01:59] DrX: www.kubuntu.org [01:59] `psycho : becuase windows lies, differant counting methods.. [01:59] thanks === ccc [~ccc@c-ac0f70d5.015-28-6c6b7010.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu [02:00] <`psycho> i measured it manually... [02:00] <`psycho> G-transfers? [02:00] i'm not the coder... [02:00] anyone good at setting up wpa encryption? i can access via my wireless without encryption, but the wpa isn't working :( === chope [~chope@r200-125-9-39-dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #ubuntu [02:01] gigabyte lan transfers.. [02:01] how can i add ); to the end of every line in vim? [02:01] <`psycho> gigabit u mean? [02:01] err yeh [02:01] heh [02:01] <`psycho> :S [02:01] what network card tho? [02:01] question: i am trying to install Imap from synaptic, tried dovecot, courier, and uw-mapd.....none of them work out of the install...anyone know of a howtoo that will point me in the right direction....debian is easier to setup imap with [02:02] the nvidia force-deth card module sucks.. its slow. === eriksays [~matt@172.180.8.67.cfl.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu [] [02:02] <`psycho> both cards are gigabit over a 100Mbps switch tho [02:02] as I can mount a partition ntfs, for all the users??? [02:02] `psycho : brand tho? [02:02] hi, i was wanting to download a set of pictures numbered 01.jpg to 43.jpg, how could i do this without downloading each file individually? [02:02] <`psycho> umm [02:02] <`psycho> a sec [02:03] lspci [02:03] i was trying to use some kind of wildcard in d4x [02:03] <`psycho> linux: 000:02:05.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. Yukon Gigabit Ethernet 10/100/1000Base-T Adapter (rev 13) [02:03] hehe [02:03] yeh same card i got [02:03] <`psycho> lol [02:04] lsmod you will see force-deth [02:04] reverse engineered [02:04] nvidia has a driver for you [02:04] but ive never gotten it to work nicely, but tried several months ago [02:04] how do i use ksynaptic? [02:04] the drivers [02:05] so i would go to nvidia site, download the driver, install ect, you will need to rmmod force-deth before install ect [02:05] and use ifconfig to reconfigure the lan.. [02:05] but complicated, but i need sleep [02:05] err i just got very confused [02:05] <`psycho> and the win one is integrated intel one [02:05] <`psycho> umm [02:06] <`psycho> nvidia? [02:06] Yukon Gigabit is not an nvidia card, but is on the asus a8n [02:06] <`psycho> yea [02:06] sorry got very confused.. === the_great [~sadan@202.149.64.146] has joined #ubuntu === david__ [~david@pool-70-110-26-85.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:06] <`psycho> LOL [02:06] <`psycho> i c [02:06] my Yukon Gigabit works like a charm [02:06] very fast [02:06] <`psycho> what's the transfer speed u get? [02:06] no ideas on the imap question anyone? [02:06] how did you test the speed? [02:07] you guys are great. thanks for the help! [02:07] <`psycho> i monitor the disk usage and net stats === hoovernj [hoovernj@ip24-255-116-57.dc.dc.cox.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [02:07] `psycho : depends on what i do, when copying to windows over the lan 4-5mb/s but over an ftp to a linux box i get faster speeds [02:07] <`psycho> o.o [02:07] havent benched it tho [02:07] <`psycho> well i do get 4.2MB/s [02:07] <`psycho> but i thought it's way faster [02:08] <`psycho> when i did a win2win i was sure i was getting at least twice as fast [02:08] prolly depends on what you do, protocall over lan, harddisk bottleneck, cpu limits.. [02:08] hey all - i am trying to get a program working and i need to make ubuntu see my cdrom drive as a scsi drive [02:08] <`psycho> :S [02:09] bye,bye [02:09] the monitor might only be measuring physical data and not the tcp packet overheads.. but no idea really === xwin2 [~xwin2@168.226.128.51] has left #ubuntu ["Abandonando"] [02:09] hey, does anyone know how to select the default audio device? [02:09] i'll look into it [02:09] <`psycho> please do so [02:10] have you tried linux to linux transfers? [02:10] <`psycho> no [02:10] i'm sure it is a sound problem now, because it doesn't happen when sound isn't enabled === xuzo [~xuzo@81-203-43-239.user.ono.com] has left #ubuntu ["Abandonando"] === nalioth [~Apple@cpe-66-25-43-80.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === the_great [~sadan@202.149.64.146] has joined #ubuntu [02:10] i would try that [02:10] hey, does anyone know how to select the default audio device? [02:11] <`psycho> i c [02:11] oggenc ? === bpuccio [~brian@ool-457158b1.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:11] <`psycho> damn but my other pc is dead now [02:11] <`psycho> shit [02:11] anyone know what package it's in. === pschulz01 [~pschulz01@eth6067.sa.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:11] <`psycho> was a nice birthday surprise [02:11] <`psycho> :(( [02:11] david__ system - prefs - multi media selector === the_great [~sadan@202.149.64.146] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [02:11] my other pc.. actually the one i irc from, got a 10mb/s card.. p166 === abbe80 [~abbe80@krs-dhcp278.studby.uio.no] has joined #ubuntu [02:11] occy: vorbis-tools? === the_great [~sadan@202.149.64.146] has joined #ubuntu [02:12] <`psycho> 10Mbps u mean? [02:12] only other pc is roomie's xp [02:12] yeh === JF6 [~adam@lns-p19-8-idf-82-249-16-19.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:12] coucou les copains === bucky [~bucky@bucky.active.supporter.pdpc] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [02:12] i get around 400k/s on it since the cpu cant keep up when i scp to it [02:12] ty so much stars! [02:12] <`psycho> hehe [02:13] and the disk writes too slowly [02:13] funny tho, love that little pc === Lafitte- [~nunya@ppp-71-130-27-33.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:13] want to mod it [02:13] <`psycho> ya...just watch it 4.5MB/s is max [02:13] <`psycho> X.x [02:14] `psycho : dont think its linux, its a popular card, support should be good, linux is made for internet/servers in mind === DracosX [~glenn@cpe-024-211-228-164.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === linkwrangler [~bob@cable-24-179-49-150.sli.la.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:14] <`psycho> exactly that's the reason i need this to work flawless === magog [~magog@68-168-2-145.miamfl.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu === linkwrangler [~bob@cable-24-179-49-150.sli.la.charter.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [02:14] the problem is @ the other end @ windows.. if you copyed over samba then its not the card thats slow, its the writing of data to the remote pc that is slow [02:14] <`psycho> this pc is meant to be a server [02:14] samba aint too fast [02:14] whats the command to enable nvidia driver? [02:15] how to configure his graphic card? [02:15] <`psycho> umm [02:15] stars, that doesn't let me select dif audio hardware [02:15] (im french) === prevod1 [prevod@147.91.175.15] has joined #ubuntu === amittp [~ATP@c-24-126-88-230.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === linkwrangler [~bob@cable-24-179-49-150.sli.la.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:15] <`psycho> smb right? [02:15] stars, when i do a test with ESD, it outputs my speakers, and the other two settings give me errors [02:15] i installed it but no nvidia splash screen, last time i remember using some command to enable it but forgot what it was [02:15] stars, i need it to output to my phones if i want which are connected to my soundcard, the speakers are on onboard audio [02:15] yeh === Majlo [~mario@213.215.74.3] has joined #ubuntu [02:15] How to install mine card graphic? === prevod1 [prevod@147.91.175.15] has left #ubuntu [] [02:15] smb is teh slow, also file limit is 2G [02:16] <`psycho> wat?? [02:16] <`psycho> really? [02:16] JF6 : chances are its already installed correctly [02:16] yeh [02:16] ive never managed to copy more than 2G to a single file [02:16] <`psycho> it can't transfer a file larger then 2GB? [02:16] <`psycho> :O [02:16] might be some stupid error [02:16] <`psycho> i c [02:16] ok [02:16] but the problem is smb, not your card [02:17] im sorry for the noobish question but can someone tell me the enable command [02:17] <`psycho> well any other protocol for a windows 2 linux (vice-versa) transfer over the network? === Geoffrian [~Geoffrian@tnt01-110.phlpa.fast.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:17] magog : by default the splash shows [02:17] lsuactiafner, its not [02:17] `psycho, nfs [02:17] goto /etc/X11/xorg.conf look for "nv" change to "nvidia" [02:17] <`psycho> hmm [02:17] kk [02:18] and apt-cache search nvidia [02:18] `psycho, you can also do scp, sftp, or ftp [02:18] <`psycho> scp? [02:18] and install, apt-get install nvidia-stuff [02:18] i got the driver from synaptic [02:18] psychonate, copy over ssh [02:18] scp is encrypted trasnfer, windows does do it [02:18] <`psycho> i only know to work with samba cos it's on the nautilus when i try to access a windows share [02:18] `psycho, last for for you [02:18] <`psycho> ^^;; [02:18] i like scp === hoovernj [hoovernj@ip24-255-116-57.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:19] `psycho : copy a file from the ubuntu machines ftp server if it got one [02:19] How do I read and write files from my NTFS partition? [02:19] <`psycho> hmm [02:19] <`psycho> i might try that [02:19] <`psycho> :) [02:19] hoovernj : try not to write to it.. but my friends do with no problems.. [02:19] hoovernj: writing to NTFS is not stable yet, you may destroy your NTFS partition doing so === Th4tBa5t4rd [~Just@adsl-68-251-15-79.dsl.toldoh.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:19] `psycho : ftp and scp.. try that. one should be nice to you [02:19] <`psycho> what ftp server prog would u reccomend me? [02:19] oh ok [02:20] i like proftpd [02:20] <`psycho> hm [02:20] lsuactiafner, Isdnt he looking for a client [02:20] apt-get install proftpd [02:20] If I have a computer that has no modem and one with and both computers are on my own LAN line can I access the Internet on the computer without a modem through the other? [02:20] he is looking for a server.. [02:20] <`psycho> u know i com from the world of bulletproof ftp server in windows... [02:20] <`psycho> i was extremely happy with it.. === ricardo [~LV@ALamentin-101-1-10-179.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu [02:20] extremely? [02:20] <`psycho> i am searching for something that's the most like that [02:21] <`psycho> :X [02:21] what do i use to edit the xorg.conf its not giving me access to modify [02:21] <`psycho> yea... [02:21] <`psycho> it was very stable and i was able to monitor everything.. === Touru [~esoteric@static65-87-232-136.regina.accesscomm.ca] has joined #ubuntu [02:21] <`psycho> is vsftpd good? [02:21] <`psycho> ppl reccomended it to me === neighborlee [~neighborl@d24-16.rb2.gh.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:22] magog: you need to be root [02:22] nalioth, i need to actually log in as root? [02:22] magog: try "sudo gedit filename" [02:22] ah,ok [02:22] anyone else having trouble downloading liveCD/install DVD ? ( bittorrent wont start so I guess no one is seeding ) ..shrug === chope [~chope@r200-125-9-39-dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [02:22] `psycho : kernel.org uses it === gerreh [~gerreh@202.149.64.146] has joined #ubuntu [02:23] neighborlee: do a http or ftp download? [02:23] <`psycho> hehe === nate__ [~nate@c24.240.42.37.mad.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu === hermetic_ [~hermetic@dialup-4.243.57.122.Dial1.Seattle1.Level3.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:23] <`psycho> do u know how to set it up? [02:23] goldfish, no option for that..only bittorrent [02:23] neighborlee: according to the channel topic the tracker is down [02:23] how do you turn off and turn on iptables? is there a way to do that? [02:23] oh wait there it goes ...I think someone heard me [02:23] neighborlee: :) [02:24] slow but its going [02:24] in effect turning off and turning off the built-in firewall :) [02:24] turning on* [02:24] nate__: program called firestarter, i believe [02:24] goldfish, now I just need to goto town and buy a dvd burner LOL [02:24] nalioth, no no no, i mean iptables, the built-in "firewall" === jsgotangco [~jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu === Hoxzer [Hoxzer@dsl-hkigw2p34.dial.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu [02:25] hey all - if i use scsi emulation in ubuntu, the speeds on the cdrom drive decrease or anything [02:25] hey, does anyone know how to get alsa to work? [02:25] nate__: go to newsforge.com and look toward last week, there was a really interesting article on 3 different iptable manglers [02:25] nate__ : iptables -L -n [02:25] its not running atm [02:25] not by default. === misfit-toy pops the cork on a texas red wine and sends a wireless nic to a compadre [02:26] on me its not? [02:26] yeh i doubt it === herman [~herman@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #ubuntu === nxv_ [~nxv_@dsl-082-083-171-068.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:27] misfit-toy: isn't red piss a bad thing? === Pop_pa_FrEaK [~patrick@CPE000ae6c702bb-CM000e5ce665ba.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu === spacey [~spacey@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #ubuntu [02:28] lsuactiafner, is there a way to make it some someone can ping me then? [02:28] GammaRay, normally, but if you have red eyes as well, then i guess it's normal [02:28] nate__ : currenly they should be able to ping you === hayden [~hayden@203-219-130-10-qld.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [02:29] how can i change my /home/user directory to a fat32 partition? [02:30] hayden : bad idea, vfat files are by default executable ect === JF6 [~adam@lns-p19-8-idf-82-249-16-19.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:30] it will turn out very nasty for you if you do that === Dethread [~Dethread@24-205-231-52.slo-cres.charterpipeline.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:30] hayden: Why do you need to do this? === JF6 [~adam@lns-p19-8-idf-82-249-16-19.adsl.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [02:31] GammaRay, not from TX it ain't ;p [02:31] so then i can have access files in both winxp and linux and having the exact same partition for my data and files [02:31] hayden: better to symlink a subfolder in your homedir to the fat32 [02:31] david_...Don't know deb/uduntu/alsa yet but if you have alsa try running 'alsaconf' [02:31] (no alsaconf in ubuntu's alsa-utils) [02:31] better yet on shutdown make a script copy his /home to xp [02:32] nalioth: that won' [02:32] like cp -rR stuff bleh [02:32] but yah === ratl3 [~ratl3@12-223-198-171.client.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:32] nalioth: won't work [02:32] no alsa conf? hmmm..how do you get it ip :) [02:32] GammaRay: why? i do it all the time [02:32] hayden: install ext2fs on windows, it's an opensource program if I recall correctly [02:32] GammaRay, you a wino like me? [02:32] GammaRay: keep all my non-operating files in it [02:32] hermetic_: if it's pci or usb, then hotplug and udev take care of it [02:32] hey, could someone help me out with a problem? [02:33] anto9us: what does it do [02:33] anyone run 'N - ninja game' here with sound & without lagg? [02:33] ratl3 : just ask [02:33] it seems like the alsa-oss isn't working [02:33] and.. gnight. once and for all night. [02:33] hayden: gives access to your linux partitions === misfit-toy hurls his blackberry far into the backyard [02:33] ratl3: You trying to play flash games / movies ? [02:33] bzflag [02:33] nalioth: I got what you said backwards. I thought you meant making a symlink in the fat32 partition to your home dir [02:33] frozen bubble [02:34] I see intersting..new to ubuntu still waiting for my 'free' cd ha! Have been setting up alsa on my redhat today so it caught my eye..have just been through it all! [02:34] misfit-toy: not yet, but we shall see [02:34] i'm hatign audio support at the moment too. my syatem sounds are through ALSA and sound crap. but i can get XMMS going with eSound and it's fine. SO I turned off my system sounds [02:34] ratl3: Are you running it with esd up? [02:34] GammaRay: my fav thing to do, works in hfs+ and fat32 [02:34] SeamusLP, crap, yes [02:34] Th4tBa5t4rd: did you try using the plughw:0,0 device in the alsa configuration via xmms's preferences? [02:35] GammaRay: hayden that way both OS' can access the stuff [02:35] nalioth: but only under linux. won't help windows access your linux files [02:35] ratl3: I'm pretty sure if it's trying to play through oss esd won't let it ;) === darkaudit [~bpack@pool-141-153-72-124.clrk.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:35] ratl3: Unless you change your esd.conf to allow for this [02:35] yeah. locked up [02:35] GammaRay: if you mount your fat32 part, linux writes to them in fat32 language [02:35] but it sounds fine for right now. all i need is an mp3 player [02:35] SeamusLP, ok that was it [02:35] GammaRay: been doin it for years, works great [02:35] nalioth: no kidding [02:35] Th4tBa5t4rd: "locked up"? [02:35] SeamusLP, i feel like an idiot [02:36] yes. XMMS will crash [02:36] ratl3 no worries [02:36] SeamusLP, i guess i'm used to the dmix stuff i had set up on gentoo [02:36] weird... all my DVD burning problems went away after switching from a 40-wire to an 80-wire cable [02:36] crash, sieze, stop responding. whatever you want to call it. but it's working with eSound. so i am happy [02:36] GammaRay, ok then, fave wine is? [02:36] darkaudit: lucky you. i've got burning problems and am already using 80 pin [02:36] <_Church_of_Foamy> does wine and cedega require any think from ubuntu to run on kubuntu? [02:36] darkaudit: is it on a channel on it's own? [02:36] SeamusLP, how do you allow it in esd? [02:37] <_tester_> but what cable is that darkaudit? === max [~max@oh-strongsvillecadent1-4c-28.clvhoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:37] darkaudit: 80 wire rather [02:37] ratl3: Just a sec I'll have a look at my conf file [02:37] Th4tBa5t4rd: "crash" is pretty different from "stop responding" for the sake of debugging, though === Methynutnut [Tommy_K@203-217-88-224.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [02:37] SeamusLP, ok [02:37] Seq: I was getting physically bad burn... blank bands, scorches, etc. when trying to burn 8x discs @ 8x... === ja [~ja@210-55-146-51.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has left #ubuntu [] === mcmahonm [~mcmahonm@CPE000d88983755-CM000f9fa625ca.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:37] hey.. i'm having a problem getting packages like flashplayer-mozilla from multiverse [02:38] darkaudit: i cant burn any discs past 2x === Hackmo [~sean13@82-41-83-57.cable.ubr01.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [02:38] i have this in the sources file: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary multiverse [02:38] eh. end user it's all the same thing. there's definately something up with ALSA and my motherboards audio codec [02:38] Seq: I'll assume dma is on? [02:38] darkaudit: and cds i seem to be able to burn at about 10x max [02:38] Th4tBa5t4rd: for instance, if you had told me that xmms hung, I would have suggested that you make sure you weren't using mmap with dmix [02:38] darkaudit: yup [02:38] do i need to do something different if i'm running the amd64 bit arch? [02:38] sep what kind of disks? [02:38] Seq: bad drive maybe? [02:38] darkaudit: that was one of the first things i do after install, ubuntu seems to miss that for my optical drives every time [02:38] Th4tBa5t4rd: whereas if you had told me that xmms had crashed, I would have had to take a different approach in diagnosing === jetscreamer [~jetscream@adsl-64-219-216-41.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:39] darkaudit: i'd say yeah, but i can burn regular speeds in windows === tenshiKur0 [~tenshiKur@S0106000d93cb5211.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:39] hmmmm... === neighborlee [~neighborl@d24-16.rb2.gh.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:39] ratl3: check out your /etc/esound/esd.conf file, change the spawn_options line to -terminate -nobeeps -as 5 -d default [02:40] Seq: dvd burner or cd burner? [02:40] ratl3: restart esd, see if you can do it then [02:40] nalioth: dvd burner [02:40] i dunno. I spent most of the afternoon searching for a solid solution to my issue with ALSA and it seems that it comes down to trial and error and if that doesn't work...compile a kernel without ALSA and then install drivers. Since I am only 1 week into Linux, compiling my own kernel doesn't sound fun [02:40] Th4tBa5t4rd: well, I'm trying to assist you [02:40] Seq: see uncle google about cdrecord-prodvd [02:41] Th4tBa5t4rd: oh nonsense! when i was young we only had a screen with 0 and 1's ! [02:41] Th4tBa5t4rd: start by telling me what sound hardware you're using [02:41] nalioth: yeah, but i get crappy burn speeds with cds too === miscz [~miscz@amh246.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu [02:41] <_Church_of_Foamy> i have a 10x burner that will only burn at 4x :( [02:41] there's no issue at the moment Crimsun. I have a system that works. and audio support for MP3s while I surf/email/yadda. Just using *nix for basics and a pared down XP install for games and other stuff === chi [~chi@69-162-9-74.stcgpa.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:42] th4tBa5t4d: xmms will stop responding if you have the wrong sound output plugin selected in preferences [02:42] _Church_of_Foamy, media support 10x? [02:42] Th4tBa5t4rd: ok. [02:42] <_Church_of_Foamy> yea it's 52x meadia [02:42] SeamusLP, i don't have a default device it says [02:42] _Church_of_Foamy, set the correct speed in burning util? [02:43] <_Church_of_Foamy> yea [02:43] ratl3: really? that's very strange [02:43] <_Church_of_Foamy> it's weard i can't burn at 10x or 6x but 4x works fine [02:43] _Church_of_Foamy, maybe drive isn't what it says it is, or requires special commands to kick into higher speeds [02:44] is there a trick to starting WINE in ubuntu? [02:44] SeamusLP, why do i need to select the device? it already works without that line? [02:44] <_Church_of_Foamy> dident think of that [02:44] ratl3: yeah delete the -d default [02:44] <_Church_of_Foamy> it's just a cheapy mitsumi drive [02:45] _Church_of_Foamy, cheapies usually works the best for me under linux [02:45] "sudo apt-get install wine" doesn't work for me and i can't seem to add the wine.sourgeforge.netr repositories to synaptic [02:45] <_Church_of_Foamy> i'm starting to find that out myself [02:45] SeamusLP, i just changed autospawn to 1 === br33zy [~br33zy@cpe-66-27-118-223.san.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:45] SeamusLP, and it seems to work now [02:45] <_Church_of_Foamy> what i don't get is when i had ubuntu installed from cd my games worked in wine and cedega === skeld [~skeld@12-220-60-138.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:45] ratl3: Yeah that's whats in mine === Geoffrian [~Geoffrian@tnt01-110.phlpa.fast.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:46] <_Church_of_Foamy> now i installed kubuntu from cd and they don't O_o [02:46] Can anyone tell me the terminal command to configure the X server??? [02:46] SeamusLP, why is it set to 0 as default? [02:46] <_Church_of_Foamy> i now get more errors than i can read lol === jimmychi [~jimmychi@69-162-9-74.stcgpa.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:46] ratl3: Not sure, I can't remember if I had to change mine to 1 or not [02:46] can someone please explain why i cant get flashplayer-mozilla from multiverse?! pleeez [02:47] Geoffrian: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf [02:47] max: what is it telling you? [02:47] nalioth: that it cant find it! tho it's definitely inthe sources file [02:47] SeamusLP, ok, this laptop is finally up and running perfectly [02:47] max: use synaptic [02:48] nalioth: did... it cant find it either === tombs [~tombs@h141156.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #ubuntu [02:48] SeamusLP, thank you for pointing out something i forgot [02:48] SeamusLP, heh [02:48] No problem [02:48] later everyone [02:48] Can anyone tell me the terminal command to configure the X server? === drega [~drega@adsl-65-66-20-127.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:49] Geoffrian: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (Hoary) === Chislon [~Chislon@24-176-45-129.dhcp.klmz.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:49] Thats what I almost remembered, thank you. [02:49] <_Church_of_Foamy> anyone ever installed ubuntu on a sony vaio? [02:50] nalioth: I have deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary multiverse [02:50] i've got a weird situation. I'm trying to get a laptop up and running it has no cdrom no floppy and a pcmcia network card. I've yanked the harddrive out and installed ubuntu on the laptops hard drive [02:51] the laptop boots but its configured for the desktop :( is there a way to go back through the autoprobe process? [02:51] max try this one deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe multiverse [02:51] hey all - quick grub question - if i added a bit to my kernel options, but want it apply to all my kernels i boot to and all future kernels i install, how can i go about that [02:51] <_Church_of_Foamy> anyone? [02:52] how can i make wpasupplicant connect to a wpa enabled wireless router when i run a shell script? === nrl [~nrl@nrl.student.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu [02:52] <_Church_of_Foamy> i have a freind who's trying to install ubuntu on a sony vaio computer and it just won't install === br33zy [~br33zy@cpe-66-27-118-223.san.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:52] i did this b4 but i forgot to backup the script [02:52] everybody smile for a screenshot [02:53] nalioth: still no luck.. could it have anything to do with me running the amd64 version? [02:53] _Church_of_Foamy, gonna need a bit more details than that [02:53] max: yes that is is === lin [~lin@82-71-9-233.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [02:53] <_Church_of_Foamy> it won't install or boot form the cd [02:53] max: no goodies for you (or me either, i run PPC) [02:53] max, perhaps there isn't a amd64 version of the plugin [02:53] so uhh... === imaek [~imaek@adsl-69-235-81-27.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:54] can i run the 32bit version? [02:54] max, i don't know why the x86 version wouldn't work, though [02:54] max: you are flashless unless you go to a 32bit arch, yes [02:54] kudzubane: amd64 has lots of lacking stuff(just like ppc arch) [02:54] sure. but it is supposed to be 32-bit compatible [02:54] nalioth: are you saying that the 32 bit build wont work? [02:55] max: yes, choose the i686 or whatever suits you and go with it === send [~WinNT@221.218.42.179] has joined #ubuntu [02:55] nalioth: how do i allow it to get non amd64 packages? [02:56] nalioth, any experience with kubuntu on ppc? [02:56] kudzubane: runs great [02:56] kudzubane: have you used linux long? [02:56] ooh yeah [02:56] nalioth, since 93 [02:56] _Church_of_Foamy: have you checked the boot order in the bios? [02:56] so my quesiton, how do you set the number of work spaces? i only can use 1 in fluxbox [02:56] <_Church_of_Foamy> yea [02:57] <_Church_of_Foamy> it will boot 98 xp from cd but not ubuntu [02:57] kudzubane: then you know a WM is a WM is a WM [02:57] nalioth, DE, to be precise [02:57] _Church_of_Foamy: tried the disk in another computer? [02:57] nalioth: sorry.. kinda new with ubuntu (long time debian user tho).. how do i allow it to get packages from the 32bit x86 world? [02:57] nalioth, what is your personal preference? [02:57] max i believe you need to install the x86 cd of your choice (i'm not sure on this, tho, ask others) [02:57] <_Church_of_Foamy> goldfish it's not me but a freind i'm asking now lol === arkainium [~mark@pool-70-107-63-79.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu === etzerd [~etzerd@ool-4357b2a1.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:58] kudzubane: i switch every other boot from gnome to kde [02:58] does x start in breezy yet? [02:58] Why isn't emacs letting my choose from all my fonts? [02:58] Hello ubuntu people [02:58] kudzubane: cuz i can use the kde stuff in gnome [02:58] nalioth, lol, hope you are not serious [02:58] pepsi: not with some work afaik. [02:58] nevermind === Timbo_ [tma@82-41-36-184.cable.ubr05.edin.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu === syntaxerror64 [~dan@pcp03934904pcs.sthind01.mo.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:00] hmmm, does Ubuntu x86-64 = no wine? [03:01] wine can't run on x86_64 [03:01] kudzubane: what do you mean? [03:01] only on x86 === Xinux [~Xinux@71.8.221.172] has joined #ubuntu === Xinux [~Xinux@71.8.221.172] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:01] nalioth, switching between gnome and kde every other time === joe_ [~joe@cpe-65-24-30-40.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === caffinated runs 32-bit crossover on AMD-64 .. [03:02] and it's based on wine. === ablyss [~ablyss@209.186.149.44] has joined #ubuntu [03:02] kudzubane: whats the matter with that? the fact that i don't prefer kde, means the the periods of time are short, lol [03:02] it's the better thongs to do if you want wine on a amd64 [03:02] huh? === Tommy [~Tommah@24-159-111-199.cpe.ga.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu === Tommy is now known as tommy| [03:02] nalioth, lol [03:03] +a chroot === TongMaster [~TongMaste@157.besecure.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [03:03] sorry it's late and I don't type well [03:03] crossover office uses wine. i run ubuntu_amd64. crossover works. === blackthorne [~asd@blackthorne.user] has joined #ubuntu [03:03] nalioth, i'm not used to either, thus making it a bit difficult to choose === caffinated shrugs === Robby [~robbie159@h216.117.39.162.ip.alltel.net] has joined #ubuntu === Timbo [tma@82-41-36-184.cable.ubr05.edin.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu === kudzubane downloads kubuntu [03:03] i just want you all to know i spent all boody day trying to find out how to setup masquerading in ubunto.. and when I finally found it ... get this.. two lines of code! that's it.. just two little lines [03:04] ablyss: simple is best [03:04] blah... forget just wanted wine for something stupid. everything else i have plays with *nix [03:04] i probably isn't as hard as it looks once one masters iptables [03:05] ablyss, at least you saved some time typing :) [03:05] hey peoples [03:05] apathy is the mother of conversion [03:05] ! [03:05] Th4tBa5t4rd: I give up, what is it? === _Church_of_Foamy [~shane@24-177-160-171.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:05] <_Church_of_Foamy> x froze :( [03:05] ubotu, what is what? i'm confused [03:05] Th4tBa5t4rd: what are you talking about? [03:05] but i was bouncing back and forth with iptables and shorewall using webmin which probably wasn't setup right.. but I saved the two lines to file for future reference === HawkeVIPER [hawkeviper@LNeuilly-152-21-17-96.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu [03:06] _Church_of_Foamy, ctrl-alt-backspace === darko__ [~moo2345@ti211310a081-0675.bb.online.no] has left #ubuntu [] [03:06] ubotu. ignore my ramblings. i'm going to leave. I don't have any iossues. and I am familiar with www.google.com anyways and I registered at the forum if there's something I have issues with [03:06] <_Church_of_Foamy> coulden't even do that it locked up [03:07] _Church_of_Foamy, can you ssh in from another box to shutdown gracefully? [03:07] <_Church_of_Foamy> i already did [03:07] <_Church_of_Foamy> i just killed the power [03:07] <_Church_of_Foamy> it was frozen solid lol [03:07] X maybe, but system might not be [03:08] <_Church_of_Foamy> i'm really starting to NOT like kubuntu cd install [03:08] I had X freeze on me 3 or 4 times in a row this morning. === IRCMonkey_ [~chatzilla@arc036.rutgers.edu] has joined #ubuntu [03:08] hello [03:08] I was using the 2.6.11 kernel. Switching back to 2.6.10 fixed the problem. [03:08] <_Church_of_Foamy> i think i liked it better when i had ubuntu then kde [03:08] does anyone know if the cpuinfo and meminfo files in /proc are unique to linux? [03:08] vs Solaris, that is === marga [~marga@200.115.206.87] has joined #ubuntu [03:09] Solaris didn't have /proc last time I used it [03:09] Hi! Can anyone please tell me what's the "x-window-system" package in ubuntu? === SloMo_ [~slomo@p5487F3B1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:09] a 5.8 machine i'm on now has it, but it only has process information...and i'd like to be able to get information about the machine, #CPUs, amount of memory [03:09] does anybody know if you can gracefully switch to ubuntu from woody by just switching the apt sources? [03:09] jimmychi, solaris has a /proc if its run on x86 hardware [03:09] xserver-xorg ? [03:10] errr dooglus [03:10] Anyone knows if i can install ubuntu in a toshiba PIV laptop? [03:10] errr zenrox [03:10] Seq, from woody to warty it was [03:10] solaris has a /proc if its run on x86 hardware <-- this was ment for dooglus [03:10] dooglus: I don't know, x-window-system includes more things than just the server... Isn't there a package that installs all the x things? [03:10] IRCMonkey_, shouldn't be a problem [03:10] but now I can't affirmate it because a lots of chage have been made on hoary [03:11] thanks kudzubane! [03:11] but in theory yes it'll work [03:11] IRCMonkey_: see http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsToshiba [03:11] np === Oberone [~anon@def54f9de1569942.session.tor] has joined #ubuntu [03:11] lok: cool. x86 i'm assuming? [03:12] if i use yaboot to boot a live disc off the hard drive, could I install to a partition? === metzen [~metzen@pool-68-237-250-64.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:12] marga: how about 'xorg-common'? === shadowjack [~shadowjac@c-67-177-114-206.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:12] without needing the disc [03:12] Seq, mmh all platform [03:12] marga I think x-window-system-dev will pull in everything X related; docs, static libs, etc [03:12] solaris has /proc, but it is a bit different in purpose than linux [03:12] indeed [03:12] can someone direct me to a guide that explains directory structure in linux [03:12] lok: cool, its a ppc in question. [03:13] syntaxerror64: google can :) [03:13] kudzubane, yep === konra` [~konrad@71-35-181-235.tukw.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:13] goldfish, yes, but i thought one of you might have one you recommend handy. [03:13] Seq, yes normally ppc debian to ppc ubuntu the change must work [03:13] in theory [03:13] marga: if you don't need headers and static libs, there's x-windows-system-core: [03:13] This metapackage provides the essential components for a standalone [03:14] workstation running the X Window System. [03:14] syntaxerror64, http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ <- each distro decides its own... [03:14] Is there something like "tasksel" that will allow a clueless guy to select it? I'm giving support to someone who is more stupid than a rock. === Ironfrost [~adsfkjask@82-36-124-129.cable.ubr04.king.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [03:14] maybe the install/live dvd? [03:14] when installing "hoary" 5.04, what does "Hub 1-0:1.0 : over-current change on port 2" mean? [03:14] kudzubane, thank you [03:14] thank you anto9us! [03:14] syntaxerror64, np [03:14] i need help - ever since i updated hoary via the update manager thing a couple weeks ago, everything is screwed up [03:14] IRCMonkey_: np === BROKEN_LADDER [~pral@h-67-101-103-122.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #UBUNTU [03:14] donb't forget to make a dist-upgrade the first time you'll change the source.list === carl_ [~carl@c-67-163-11-11.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:15] i can't get my nvidia drivers to work anymore and even after switching to the un accelersted "nv" driver, x still refuses to start up [03:15] <_Church_of_Foamy> ok there is something really strange going on here [03:15] i don't know what to do [03:16] <_Church_of_Foamy> lets see if this makes sence to anyone [03:16] <_Church_of_Foamy> teamspeak won't install in ubuntu but with if ubuntu has kde installed [03:16] <_Church_of_Foamy> or ubuntu with kde i mean [03:17] <_Church_of_Foamy> but if you instal off the kubuntu cd it installs but gives no sound [03:17] shadowjack, what nvidia card are you using? - i have a BFG6800 Ultra and its runing fine in gnome - although i dont think its doing 3d stuff... [03:17] <_Church_of_Foamy> same thing with wine and cedega they won't work in kubuntu for me :( === usynic [~synic@c-67-172-247-186.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:17] <_Church_of_Foamy> any ideas guys? [03:17] anto9us ? [03:18] IRCMonkey_: yes? [03:18] another question === slicslak_ [~slicslak@S0106000f66e13f97.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:18] <_Church_of_Foamy> i mean it's blowing my mind here [03:18] _Church_of_Foamy, tried google and see if anyone else is experiencing similar problems? [03:18] <_Church_of_Foamy> yea nothing that i caould find [03:18] Oberone, geforce fx 5200 - it worked fine with warty and it was working fine with hoary, until i updated [03:18] hi - can someone help me convert Ubuntu to Kubuntu? [03:18] is ubuntu the best distribution for laptops? [03:19] I did apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and it installed [03:19] <_Church_of_Foamy> i'm still really new to linux so i don't really know what to ask or search for [03:19] IRCMonkey_, matter of opinion [03:19] and I restarted and got the Kubuntu login screen [03:19] but then I logged in and I'm back in Gnome [03:19] ok [03:19] <_Church_of_Foamy> i mean i'm really stumped === fossa [~nate@cpe-024-211-189-050.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:19] hi === nadunita [~nadinuk@201.255.134.122] has joined #ubuntu [03:19] hello [03:19] <_Church_of_Foamy> all my hardwares running crappy like my sound card [03:19] does the wireless feature work ? [03:19] how can i get a csh in ubuntu? [03:19] jajajajaj [03:19] IRCMonkey_: it's best to just offer your questions up to the channel rather than targetting an individual but to answer your question, ubuntu is very committed to laptop support. I'm running off a laptop. [03:19] Oberone, and i had the official, nvidia acclerated driver install and working [03:20] <_Church_of_Foamy> and stuff is just broken or breaking [03:20] Ironfrost, are you able to select your desktop environment from login screen? [03:20] i see === nadunita [~nadinuk@201.255.134.122] has left #ubuntu [] [03:20] <_Church_of_Foamy> but when i had ubuntu installed then installed kde it ran peachy [03:20] IRCMonkey_: my wireless card works, I had to use ndiswrapper and the windows drivers though === marga [~marga@200.115.206.87] has left #ubuntu ["Terminando] [03:21] kudzubane - possibly; I got a button there saying 'menu' [03:21] I'll check === Ironfrost [~adsfkjask@82-36-124-129.cable.ubr04.king.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #ubuntu [] [03:21] <_Church_of_Foamy> any ideas what could be causing these problems? [03:21] i don't understand, whenever i ask about accelerted drivers on the forum, they also respond like i'm an alien from another planet. is it really so odd to have accelerated drivers? [03:21] i asked you 'cause from the link you sent, there are many problems listed [03:21] shadowjack, not really [03:22] <_Church_of_Foamy> i checked the md5 before i burnt the cd and and after and it said it was fine [03:22] <_Church_of_Foamy> so i'm really stumped === gizban [~gizban@d150-166-146.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu === will_ [~will@c-67-175-158-19.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:22] shadowjack, for some, using accelerated drivers from vendor violates their personal philosophy about using open source only stuff [03:22] and no one ever gives me any useful answers [03:22] <_Church_of_Foamy> holy shit the sound worked O_o [03:23] is accelerated x hopelessly broken or something? [03:23] shadowjack, google will not be so judgemental === will_ is now known as copilot === w0wie [~wow@CPE-138-217-229-132.wa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [03:23] shadowjack, strange - although this is a hoary install from scratch though - but i dunno - did you check here? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38936&highlight=5200 === Ironfrost [~adsfkjask@82-36-124-129.cable.ubr04.king.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [03:23] kudzubane, google has turned up nothing [03:23] shadowjack, always worked fine for me, but i don't use vendorn stuff [03:23] IRCMonkey_: I've only scanned that page myself, I don't have a toshiba. Best way to know for yourself is to give it a try. You've got nothing to lose but your time and that can be put down to a learning experience :) [03:23] kudzubane - yes, that worked === w0wie [~wow@CPE-138-217-229-132.wa.bigpond.net.au] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:23] ok i just downloaded csh_20020413-1.1ubuntu1_i386.deb and opened it with package manager. i don't quite see how to install it. [03:23] I'm a moron === cornholio [~splaza@pc-200-74-118-182.megavia.pc.metropolis-inter.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:24] shadowjack, i know for a fact that google returns a huge number of hits on accerlated X stuff [03:24] it makes sense [03:24] Ironfrost, figured it out? [03:24] http://www.alobbs.com/images/3ubuntu.jpg [03:24] Ironfrost, good [03:24] thanks for the advice [03:24] thanks a lot [03:24] kudzubane, you know what, i can do without your superior nerd attitude "go google it" bullshit [03:24] shadowjack, is that in the neighborhood - ill look deeper if it is. [03:24] does dpkg-reconfigure have an option to reconfigure network interfaces? [03:25] IRCMonkey_: there's a few things I'd like to iron out on my laptop but overall it spends 99% of its time running ubuntu [03:25] netcardconfig [03:25] kudzubane, say something useful or shut up [03:25] shadowjack, i wouldn't have suggest it I didn't personally google that exact same subject before [03:25] ew [03:25] shadowjack, and google certainly helped me with my acceralted X issue [03:25] k === shiv [~shiv@c-24-60-106-255.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:25] shadowjack, to each his own === CarlFK [~CarlK@c-67-163-11-11.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === kudzubane don't understand why suggesting google seems to be offensive to some [03:26] kudzubane: it's not === gizban [~gizban@d150-166-146.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:26] I installed 855resolution on my dell 700m now half the screen is occupied by the windows, fonts are too big [03:26] RTFM !!!!! [03:26] <_Church_of_Foamy> do i want linux sorce 2.6.11? [03:26] _ [03:26] jetscreamer dosent seem that is installed.. you have another suggestion? [03:26] kudzubane, because i ALREADY DID IT AND TURNED UP NOTHING USEFUL [03:26] ass [03:27] if i had even a remotly useful link, i wouldn't come in here to put up with people like you [03:27] shadowjack: lol === the_great [~sadan@202.149.64.146] has joined #ubuntu [03:27] shadowjack: try #debian [03:27] drega: man 5 interfaces maybe [03:28] <_Church_of_Foamy> do i want linux sorce 2.6.11? [03:28] shadowjack: what is your problem, i missed it? [03:28] ...well on that note... === kudzubane laughs [03:28] hah [03:28] _Church_of_Foamy: em, unless u want to install the linux 2.6.11 kernel.... [03:28] I installed 855resolution on my dell 700m now half the screen is occupied by the windows, fonts are too big, I can decrese those in control center but still the toolbars occupy half the screen [03:28] gentlemen, theres no need for taxonomy lessons [03:29] shadowjack: have you tried 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' ? [03:29] <_Church_of_Foamy> is it working or sketchy? === matjan [user@209.161.226.35] has joined #ubuntu [03:29] goldfish, here is the problem. this is copied from my forum post the got no useful advice: [03:29] As most are probably aware, the latest automatic updates break nvidia-glx. My solution was uninstall nvidia-glx then download the latest official NVidia drivers from nvidia.com. I also installed the kernel headers from the Ubuntu repositories because I suspected the NVidia install script would have to compile a driver for the system - and it did. Everything seemed to work but now OpenGL apps give me a "segmentation fault." I've [03:29] installed NVidia drivers many times in the past and this is a first for me. I can find very little on it with Google. What do I do? [03:29] oh right [03:29] jeez. [03:29] shadowjack: use vesa [03:30] _Church_of_Foamy: the 2.6 kernel? [03:30] shadowjack: did you try uninstalling the previous? [03:30] <_Church_of_Foamy> 2.6.11 [03:30] shadowjack: did you try asking in #nvidia? [03:30] jetscreamer, *sigh* yes i did [03:30] _Church_of_Foamy: working afaik [03:30] jetscreamer, to the first one [03:30] <_Church_of_Foamy> ok === br33zy [~br33zy@cpe-66-27-118-223.san.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:30] no i haven't checked #nvidia [03:30] shadowjack: is the .run xorg aware? i have no idea [03:31] where is the fluxbox menu stored after you edit it with "sudo fluxmenu"? it's not the ~/.fluxbox/menu i checked === makoto [~pablo@toronto-HSE-ppp3951085.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu [03:31] jetscreamer, i wasn't aware of an #nvidia. i don't come on irc much. this is an act of desperation === cafuego is now known as cthulfuego [03:31] br33zy: ask in #fluxbox :) [03:31] br33zy: you sure its not there? [03:31] jetscreamer, as far as i know, the latest nvidia driver supports x.org [03:31] hmmm [03:31] goldfish, its there, but its the wrong one, and yes i asked in fluxbox === DragonFly [vampyre@m59.net81-67-104.noos.fr] has joined #ubuntu [03:32] hmmm === RastaMahata [~RastaMaha@pc-200-74-15-92.nunoa2.pc.metropolis-inter.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:32] br33zy: It should be in /root/.fluxbox . [03:32] ah [03:32] Obvious. [03:32] paulproteus, checked there too [03:32] i think i got it now [03:32] i did find a related forum thread but no one seemed to have any answers that made sense [03:32] br33zy: Then, it will be in /home/username/.fluxbox . [03:32] shadowjack: lots of useful information on irc... #nvidia might be able to help .. i've never had it break that way so i don't know... did you read the README.txt for the advanced options? it's a pretty extensive doc [03:32] Or ask in #fluxbox ;) [03:32] /etc/X11/fluxbox/fluxbox-menu [03:32] is where it put it [03:32] It may overwrite your own configuration, that might be why you haven't seen it. [03:32] Hmm, interesting. [03:32] <_Church_of_Foamy> anyone know how to get the a soundcard to put out more than one sound per program? [03:32] weird [03:33] there were several contradictory "answers", it was confusing [03:33] _Church_of_Foamy: Ubuntu uses 'esd' to make that happen. [03:33] a sound server maybe, i forget [03:33] The "enlightened sound server". [03:33] ah [03:33] <_Church_of_Foamy> so what to do to change that? [03:33] It's actually not all that enlightened, but it'll be replaced with "polypaudio" in the years to come. [03:33] screw it, i'll just reinstall and not update [03:33] <_Church_of_Foamy> change it to esd? [03:33] _Church_of_Foamy: Change *what* to esd? [03:33] shadowjack, dunno if this is relevant to your situ, but -> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-7832.html [03:33] What program are you using that has trouble playing audio? [03:33] <_Church_of_Foamy> the sound card [03:33] since updating is what broke it [03:34] hi all, got another question.... I'm using a "how to" to enable multiple sound sources in Kubuntu and am supposed to go to Sound control panel in Gnome and enable sound server startup. Probllem is I use KDE. Is there an equivalent? I couldn't find it. Will this work in KDE if I logout and login in Gnome and do it? [03:34] <_Church_of_Foamy> what ever program i'm using hogs the sound === Ironfrost [~adsfkjask@82-36-124-129.cable.ubr04.king.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #ubuntu [] [03:34] shadowjack: what kernel? there used to be some conflict, but that was a little while ago [03:34] ahh [03:34] _Church_of_Foamy: Be specific! [03:34] What programs are you running? [03:34] What program is using sound? [03:34] What program are you trying to run that fails to use sound? === `psycho [~psycho@83-131-67-101.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu [03:34] <_Church_of_Foamy> ok my sound card will only put out sound from the first program that uses it [03:34] no program fails to use sound [03:34] shadowjack: a wise man said to me once that updating you xserver breaks the nvidia.run [03:35] <_Church_of_Foamy> and block out sounds from other programs [03:35] jetscreamer, whatever comes stock with hoary [03:35] But only one prgram at a time uses it [03:35] Name the program.s [03:35] _Church_of_Foamy, could be a lack of hardware mixing in ALSA due to poor implementation or lack of hardware mixing capability due to hardware limitation === IIIEars [~bill@cpe-24-30-191-199.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === desplesda [~desplesda@CPE-143-238-232-176.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [03:35] when was the hover over mp3 and play put into effect [03:35] _Church_of_Foamy: I know the general symptom. You have to be specific. [03:35] Otherwise, I can't help. [03:35] <_Church_of_Foamy> oh ok that makes sence [03:35] shadowjack: he said 'in horrible ways' iirc, not sure [03:35] <_Church_of_Foamy> oh ok === discman [~discman@host81-136-231-181.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:35] oops wrong reply [03:35] jetscreamer, well that's the odd thing, i didn't update x.org. at least i'm pretty sure i didn't [03:36] _Church_of_Foamy: I've been using GNU/Linux for six years. I know a lot about sound issues. To tell you how to configure your programs right, you must first tell me which programs you want configured. === capi [~root@CPE-65-31-169-86.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:36] is there a latest fluxbox package anywehre? [03:36] <_Church_of_Foamy> i want teamspeak to not hog the sound [03:36] i have 0.9.11 [03:36] br33zy: dont think so [03:36] kudzubane, it sounds like it is but that's from the development release - you'd thing that would have been fixed by now? [03:36] k [03:36] shadowjack: try #nvidia, might take a bit for somebody to answer, might not [03:36] br33zy: you'll need to compile it from source [03:36] _Church_of_Foamy: Cool. Let me look that program up. [03:36] br33zy: 0.9.13 is out [03:36] <_Church_of_Foamy> ok [03:36] or just reinstall [03:36] yea [03:36] _Church_of_Foamy: One moment, please. :) [03:36] if you're in a hurry [03:36] shadowjack, perhaps, i am unfamiliar with ubuntu so i can't say [03:37] <_Church_of_Foamy> kk === edpage [~edpage@200.193.111.95] has joined #ubuntu [03:37] helo, all === konra` [~konrad@71-35-181-235.tukw.qwest.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:37] kudzubane, ... you're in the #ubuntu channel [03:38] jetscreamer, ok, i guess i'll have to check it out [03:38] shadowjack, yes, to get help and opinion on ubuntu distro [03:38] br33zy: not too hard to build from the tarball [03:38] goldfish, i know, but i like keeping a clean system [03:38] kk [03:38] :) [03:38] good choice :) [03:38] :-) [03:38] shadowjack: How are you running teamspeak? [03:38] kudzubane, here's an opinion - they haven't ironed out the automatic update manager introduced in the latest version [03:39] From a menu, or from a terminal? [03:39] paulproteus, teamspeak? [03:39] _Church_of_Foamy, I mean, sorry. [03:39] <_Church_of_Foamy> lol [03:39] shadowjack: Sorry, carry on. :) [03:39] <_Church_of_Foamy> i am running it in kubuntu [03:39] shadowjack, any other issues you've experienced with the auto upd mgr besides vidia stuff? [03:39] _Church_of_Foamy: Do you click a menu item? [03:39] <_Church_of_Foamy> yes [03:39] _Church_of_Foamy: Okay. Please try this: [03:39] <_Church_of_Foamy> yes i do [03:39] <_Church_of_Foamy> ok [03:39] 1. Quit teamspeak. [03:40] 2. Open a konsole. [03:40] 3. Type in there: esd & [03:40] ehem konsole [03:40] (enter) [03:40] kudzubane, nope because i didn't get to run it very long before my system was borked [03:40] 4. type in the konsole: esddsp teamspeak & [03:40] (enter) [03:40] shadowjack, sorry to hear that [03:41] i feel like reinstalling warty [03:41] <_Church_of_Foamy> ok let me try [03:41] :P [03:41] shadowjack, keeping an eye on the channel to determne possilbe roadblocks for my first ubuntu install on my lappy [03:41] on the ubuntu packages page... i want to get the whole gnu compiler package. which one is it? [03:41] fossa: apt-get install build-essential will give you C and C++. [03:41] warty was awesome - haory is warty [03:41] or you could --purge xorg then reinstall it [03:42] <_Church_of_Foamy> esd command not found [03:42] i also need fortran compilers [03:42] _Church_of_Foamy: Tee, hee. Kubuntu is cute sometimes. [03:42] apt-cache search fortran [03:42] <_Church_of_Foamy> lol [03:42] fossa: Install the package g77. [03:42] <_Church_of_Foamy> i'm about ready to switch back to ubuntu if this keeps up lol === hondje [~hondje@c-67-174-186-96.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:43] _Church_of_Foamy: You must go to #kubuntu and ask them how they suggest you do DSP sharing. [03:43] ok [03:43] hmmm i think dist-upgrade is borking my computer as we speak [03:43] paulproteus - installed NVIDIA binary and it works.- GLXGEARS reports 1200 FPS - It looks slow though. TIP or HINT? [03:43] i'm new to ubuntu. can i apt-get g77 as well? [03:43] _Church_of_Foamy: Tell them that you're trying to run teamspeak, but that when you do, it blocks sound for other program. [03:43] IIIEars: Why me? [03:43] fossa: Sure. [03:43] yes [03:43] maybe installing kubuntu along side of gnome helped screw stuff up - i read there were some odd issues with running qt apps [03:43] <_Church_of_Foamy> ok [03:43] <_Church_of_Foamy> thank you paulproteus [03:43] paulprteus - you had mentioned build-essential [03:43] fossa: It's recommended that you use Synaptic rather than apt-get or aptitude if you're new. [03:44] _Church_of_Foamy: Sure thing. Thank me when it works. ;) [03:44] i typed 'apt-get install g77' and it seems to have worked [03:44] ah, synaptic is a gui, nice! [03:44] thanks [03:44] <_Church_of_Foamy> hell i'm thanking ya becuase you've put me on the right path to solve the problem lol === ubuntu [~ubuntu@168.226.117.28] has joined #ubuntu [03:44] i think the nvidia package might have installed a script the alters the xorg.conf file on each boot [03:45] _Church_of_Foamy, investigate ARTS, kde has an artsd [03:45] sounds unlikely [03:45] <_Church_of_Foamy> cool [03:45] but no idea [03:45] paulproteus - What you can't handle five simultaneous questions at once? - wide grin === Lafitte- [~nuna@ppp-71-130-27-33.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:46] paulproteus - j/k - that was a joke. [03:46] thank you everyone that helped - even you kudzubane - sorry about the "ass" comment [03:46] IIIEars: :) [03:47] shadowjack, having irc'ed for a while, my skin is thick :) no biggie [03:47] heh. :) [03:47] if reinstall, i'm going kick that update manager applet to the curb [03:47] psych101 [03:47] it's evil [03:47] shadowjack: you used an applet to update? [03:47] goldfish, yes, the one that comes with hoary [03:48] all it does it launch synaptic [03:48] hmmmm [03:49] it watches the official repository and tells you when updates are available. it looks like this glx/nvidia problem has been hanging around since the development releases [03:49] or something very much like it [03:49] the applet launches a castrated version of synaptic [03:50] i don't suppose there's a package for Xfce [03:50] i did the manual changing of source.list way of upgrading and my nvidia drivers worked ok === br33zy [~br33zy@cpe-66-27-118-223.san.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:50] fossa: there is [03:50] fossa xfce4 [03:50] there would at least be one in universe [03:50] sweet. [03:50] nalioth, i don't like the simplified UI they made, i always have to hit "advance" button. it's annoying [03:50] i notice rasmol and pymol under Science. that's awesome. [03:51] shadowjack: i dont use it, i always launch synaptic [03:51] fosse, you do scientific computing? [03:51] im having trouble with my wireless, can anyone advise me what to do when a dhcp Ap wont give me a ip unless i reboot machine [03:51] <_Church_of_Foamy> hey paulproteus should i just reinstall from the ubuntu cd ? === Xero84 [~Xero84@cpe-65-24-30-40.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:51] i need to know how to invke dhcp request, ifdown/ifup tries with no ip given [03:52] ah, FINALLY transcode built, what a PITA [03:52] any of you monkies have a SIP phone? [03:53] monkeys even [03:53] why didn't you just install transcode === sproingie [~chuck@64-121-15-14.c3-0.sfrn-ubr8.sfrn.ca.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:53] monk-eyes [03:53] jetscreamer: because they aren't in ubuntus repos except as src, and I don't want to use others === amittp [~ATP@c-24-126-88-230.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:54] why === blew [~blew@stjh1-3204.nl.aliant.net] has joined #ubuntu === bub [~bub@D-128-208-54-107.dhcp4.washington.edu] has joined #ubuntu [03:54] jetscreamer: Why would I want to? [03:54] BROKEN_LADDER, it is monkeys so you know heheh [03:54] NOTE: Please ask your administrator to remove the xpti.dat from the components directory of the Mozilla or Netscape browser. is what it says, i searched for xpti.dat, there are two compoenent files for firefox with it one is /usr/lib the other is /var/lib? which one do i delete? === bub is now known as cowen [03:54] [20.52.02] ah, FINALLY transcode built, what a PITA [03:55] work vs installing poorly built pkgs from random people, I'll take work :) [03:55] what is a debootstrap error? === misfit-toy [~guy@cpe-70-112-252-226.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === knucks [~chatzilla@pcp01189996pcs.waldlk01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:55] well if they weren't time tested by 1000's i could see your point [03:55] hello, is there a program that serves a web interface for remote controlling this linux box? [03:56] but it's cool i like to compile stuff too [03:56] ifrename is failing to copy and it seems like its trying to get it from the disc while it gets everything else from the web while instaling the base system [03:56] <`psycho> another time.... [03:56] <`psycho> i need help [03:56] <`psycho> lol [03:56] unfortunately if you try a sudo apt-get remove update-notifier it tries to remove ubuntu-desktop [03:57] spartas: yes that's correct [03:57] <`psycho> my machine freezes after i update the kernel to 686 version... [03:57] spartas: ubuntu-desktop is a meta package [03:57] <`psycho> not right away... [03:57] spartas: it consists of everything that ubuntu considers in their desktop [03:57] cowen, checkout webmin [03:57] exsctly [03:57] `psycho: don't use the 686 version then [03:57] thanks [03:57] <`psycho> but ye it's a P4 machine... [03:57] cowen, np [03:58] i'm still using a home directory from the warty ages, so i have no update-notifier icon [03:58] `psycho - 2.6.11? [03:58] `psycho: if the machine is locking up, it may well be a hardware problem [03:58] <`psycho> 2.6.10-5 [03:58] <`psycho> ummm not really locking all the time... [03:58] i'm pretty sure if you remove .update-notifier from your home directory, it won't load (but keep a backup around somewheres else just in case) [03:58] <`psycho> more like..after some random time... [03:58] Ah - okay - had a bit of trouble with that too. === nalioth is now known as nalioth_wrkn [03:59] <`psycho> i do something and it freezes....but it happens === biff_ [~biff@ip68-9-150-238.ri.ri.cox.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:59] I doubt you are as foolish as me. - picked an smp kernel. [03:59] <`psycho> nope... [03:59] <`psycho> i didn't [03:59] <`psycho> :) [03:59] smp kernel should run [04:00] w/o a hit [04:00] on a celeron? [04:00] lets find out [04:00] <`psycho> is smp for 2 logical or physical processor ? [04:00] `psycho: if you're talking about hyperthreading [04:00] either if you mean HT [04:01] then don't [04:01] `psycho - i know some HST laptops use it. [04:01] hyperthreading is disabled in any case, it's a major security risk [04:01] HT sucks ;) === TMM [~hp@c51471f2c.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu [04:01] `psycho, both [04:01] <`psycho> don't alk bout HT or don't use smp? [04:01] HrdwrBoB: not on a single user machine :) [04:01] who wants intel, anyway [04:01] don't talk about HT :) [04:01] <`psycho> disabled?? [04:01] Davey: it's still a risk [04:01] sure it's a risk - but this is home computing - performance is king. [04:02] so how is it a risk [04:02] <`psycho> well i intend to use it for server... [04:02] IIIEars: it delivers no performance gain for the majority of cases [04:02] infact in some cases it can cause a decrease [04:02] <`psycho> but why is it a risk?? [04:02] the only security risk is memory snatching, but thats not a risk when theres only one user [04:02] <`psycho> i hear the 1st time bout HT being "bad" [04:02] it almost always causes a decrease [04:02] in any case the decrease or increase is not enough to care [04:02] what HT is good for is protecting against runaway processes [04:02] which happens a lot in windows [04:02] true ;) === james [~james@adsl-221-163-118.pns.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:02] <`psycho> lol === Davey will take his AthlonXP 3200+ any day === crossbar [~cirrus@f09d762aa9834919.session.tor] has joined #ubuntu [04:03] `psycho: HT is primarily the intel marketing department laughing at you [04:03] `psycho - it isn't really a hug risk - your machine already has to be compromised. [04:03] hey everyone === _Church_of_Foamy [~shane@24-177-160-171.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:03] well, no, I'd take my roomies Athlon64 3200+ (1MB L2 cache) any day ;) [04:03] <`psycho> hug risk ahhahaha [04:03] <`psycho> XDD [04:03] <_Church_of_Foamy> holy shit that sucked [04:03] <[set] > is it possible in irssi to open up an other server also and not just irc.freenode.net? [04:03] got a question [04:03] <`psycho> i c [04:03] yes [set] [04:03] speelieeng [04:03] [set] : yes, /connect server [04:03] 79 people in #nvidia and nobody is answering [04:03] <[set] > ok [04:03] <[set] > thanks [04:03] how do I set up my dual monitors [04:03] /server irc.blah.blah [04:03] hey .. im having problems playing video with totem. whats the apt-get file for video codex? [04:04] or what he said [04:04] jetscreamer: that does not work [04:04] [set] : /connect server and use ctrl+x in window 1 (alt+1 or ctrl+1 I can't remember) to change between networks [04:04] <_Church_of_Foamy> omg x crashed so hard core with the 2.6.11 kernel [04:04] <_Church_of_Foamy> and nvidia === Shadowpillar [~Shadow@pool0880.cvx21-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:04] _Church_of_Foamy: do not use 2.6.11 [04:04] hehe, nice [04:04] <`psycho> anyhow....should i compile my own kernel or ? [04:04] <_Church_of_Foamy> ok [04:04] w32codecs [04:04] crossbar: gstreamer is the mechanism that drives totem i think [04:04] [set] : which is only necessary for server specific commands, like /join, /list etc :) [04:04] <_Church_of_Foamy> i just figured that out lol [04:04] <[set] > and last question: whats the command to close one channel? not /exit /quit [04:04] crossbar: get totem-xine [04:04] right on [04:04] /part [04:04] xine is good [04:04] then it might work i jus installed gstreamer [04:04] [set] : /part a channel, /window kill a query [04:04] xine-ui is my pref [04:05] [set] : "/window kill" that is === sproingie just hits ctrl-w. gui goodness [04:05] <_Church_of_Foamy> i take it the 2.6.11 is broken hard core? [04:05] Davey: /unq [04:05] i used to swear by mplayer when i ran gentoo - but it runs like sh*t on ubuntu imho [04:05] /unq? === bignose__ [~bignose@HSE-Montreal-ppp341563.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu [04:05] I didn't know that ;) === IIIEars [~bill@cpe-24-30-191-199.socal.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu ["Microsoft] [04:06] I switched to xine-ui cause it popping up for movies is better than mplayer dying at 25% :) [04:06] vlc is nice [04:06] crossbar: tip, dont use gstreamer for dvd's, it's horribly broken, prolly for legal means too [04:06] so,xmms works, but amarok and rhythm box don't. [04:06] I have a dual monitor setup is there any tutorials to make it work with ubuntu? [04:06] crossbar: or playing windows formats [04:06] bignose__: for? === grover [~grover@216-99-218-29.dsl.aracnet.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:06] james: yes. [04:06] amarok is sweet, it's the only kde app i run these days [04:06] shadow, thanks :) [04:06] Davey, eh ? [04:07] and others :P [04:07] meaning they won't play mp3's. [04:07] got a link for it shadowpillar? [04:07] crossbar: download the totem-xine package [04:07] james: hold on [04:07] bignose__: did yo u install the codecs? they don't work by default for legal reasons [04:07] james: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XineramaHowTo [04:07] hi, so the default .bash_profile is supposed to add ~/bin to PATH if it exists. this only seems to happen if I login from the console, not via gdm. anyone know why? [04:07] i thought i did. [04:07] apt-get gstreamer0.8-mad [04:07] bignose__: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats [04:08] grover: gdm sets root and user paths in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf iirc [04:08] that too. [04:08] <_Church_of_Foamy> wow the 2.6.11 headers where really horrible they crashed my box and set off the antivirus in the bios === IIIEars [~bill@cpe-24-30-191-199.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === Zunino [~ney@200-101-232-182.fnsce7004.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #ubuntu [04:08] jetscreamer: ok thx [04:08] crossbar: and then download w32 codecs [04:08] is there a way to search for packages available thru apt? === XbruceX [~bruce@cpe-24-161-127-118.hvc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:09] crossbar: sadly, a lot is disabled, blame microsoft, the mpaa, and the riaa for that one. [04:09] apt-cache search | grep -i [04:09] <_Church_of_Foamy> 3 places i'd love to drop a nuke on if i had one === sproingie blames the NCAA and the FAA while he's at it [04:09] i didn't find xfce [04:09] try xfce4 [04:09] let's not forget about AAA [04:10] <_Church_of_Foamy> any busness that can arrest little kids for file shareing there employees need to [04:10] nothing that way either [04:10] or NOAA, those weather geeks are pretty evil too [04:10] got universe? [04:10] <_Church_of_Foamy> be strung up by there balls and beaten [04:10] <_Church_of_Foamy> with sharp pointy rusted objects [04:10] jetscreamer: I don't even think when using gdm my .bash_profile is even run! Is this to be expected??? [04:10] after stringing someone up by their balls, beating is almost redundant [04:10] Is there anyone in here who would be willing to help me with a couple of font-related questions? Thank you in advance. [04:10] grr.. i get video now but no sound :\ [04:11] <_Church_of_Foamy> and then a bum with dirty fingers should trear open the wounds while pouring a mixture of salt and bicardi 151 in the wounds [04:11] grover: not sure, i just made mine work like i like it. the gdm one overrides, but you can edit it, and there is also ~/.bashrc and ~/.bash_profile to look at... man them too [04:11] crossbar, that used to happen to me - but that behavior went away when i dumped the nvidia binary drivers and switched back to the nv video drivers... makes no sense at all - but it worked for me ;) [04:11] torturita [04:12] Zunino: ask [04:12] hm. is there another site i need to add to the repository to get the w32codecs? === robitaille [~robitaill@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:12] marillat [04:12] afaik [04:12] !marillat [04:12] Wish i knew, jetscreamer [04:12] heh [04:12] xterminus, i have an onboard intel videochip. dunno if that would help me [04:12] jetscreamer: yeah I don't see it running ~/.bash_profile tho... hrm I guess I'll stick it in .bashrc [04:12] Thanks... I am running Kubuntu. Got the fonts configured through Kcontrol. However, GTK-based applications would look bad. [04:13] Then I installed gtk2-engine-qt [04:13] Zunino: #kbuntu [04:13] crossbar, yeah - but it was wierd - and it only happens on my ubuntu boxes with nvidia cards [04:13] Zunino: #kubuntu [04:13] Ok [04:13] Sorry [04:13] grover: g'luck, have fun === WW [~wweckesse@cpe-24-59-199-217.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:13] My first time on this IRC server. [04:13] that's cool, just they're more likely to be able to help :) [04:13] Thanks! Cheers! [04:14] heh === Zunino [~ney@200-101-232-182.fnsce7004.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === metzen [~metzen@pool-68-237-250-64.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu === jkezar [~jkezar@cpe-68-187-234-202.vt.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:16] In not very good at setting up X, but thats one of the reasons I went with trying ubuntu. Under the System menu I try to choose a resolution and I only have 640x480 as an option. Any idea why? [04:16] how does one restart the sound server? [04:17] killall -HUP esd ? [04:17] in xorg.conf it confirms a Riva TNT2 graphics card [04:17] I makes mention of a module called nv, which I do not have loaded. at least not via modprobe === johnnybezak [~johnnybez@203-166-238-168.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu === tron_ [~tron@201.247.88.96] has joined #ubuntu [04:18] It(the corg.conf) makes mention of a module called nv, which I do not have loaded. at least not via modprobe [04:18] how do i install a .deb? [04:18] jkezar: it's a xorg module not a kernel module [04:18] dpkg -i [04:18] dpkg -i something.deb i think [04:18] <_Church_of_Foamy> sudo dpkg -i .deb [04:18] dpkg -i blah.deb [04:18] jkezar - nothing but 2 dozen tries at different settings until you find the right one will work. - painful i know. - but we have all been through it. [04:18] <_Church_of_Foamy> lol [04:19] with or without sudo? [04:19] IIIEars, I dont have options though, only 640x480 === tron_ [~tron@201.247.88.96] has left #ubuntu ["Abandonando"] [04:19] jkezar: tried reconfiguring X server? [04:19] xconfig? [04:19] jkezar - if you would be nice enough to FAX me an aspirin. - just finished it myself an hour ago. [04:19] or editing xorg.conf? [04:19] via 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg; ? [04:19] -; [04:19] nm === jkezar faxes aspirin === me [~me@12-218-5-70.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:20] i like sudo dpkg xserver-reconfigure xserver-xorg [04:20] indeed === paxmaster [~paxmaster@ool-18baa11c.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:20] my first ubuntu command :) [04:20] im not sure I am a big fan of this sudo stuff, isnt su - the proper way to config your system> [04:20] jkezar: that's kind of an old video card, you might try dropping the defaultdepth down to something less gpu mem intenstive, like 16 bit by editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf [04:21] if you hand edit the config you probably can't dpkg-reconfigure it unless you do the md5sum thing [04:21] jkezar - lspci was a lifesaver. [04:21] brb === cerbero__ [~CerBerO@pc-138-47-120-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu === leo_mx [~leo@200.94.147.50] has joined #ubuntu === Funzo [~X@CPE0090967b4ae3-CM001225009118.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:23] why when i try to compile this package i get this advise?: configure: error: no acceptable C++-compiler found in $PATH [04:23] leo_mx: because gcc probably isn't installed [04:23] leo_mx: apt-get build-essential [04:23] ups...i'll do that then [04:23] + install [04:23] and sudo :) [04:23] thanks === goldfish goes to get typing lessons === Davey [~davey@212-0.8-67.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === WW [~wweckesse@cpe-24-59-199-217.twcny.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu [] [04:25] goldfish - xchat + ispell is pretty nice. - it does miss "sum" errors [04:26] xchat? Pfffffffffffffft. [04:26] irssi ! [04:26] You'll get better at typing by learning from your mistakes. [04:26] irssi - is cool [04:26] xchat has a ispell plugin? [04:26] ahhh needed to open xterms as login shell === imaek [~imaek@adsl-69-235-150-56.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu === marilenny [~marilenny@ool-45764af1.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:26] I just assumed at some point during gdm login bash_profile would be sources, but apparently not === SirMud [~mud@ip70-179-233-79.dl.dl.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:27] why would it be? [04:27] bash doesn't start [04:27] grover: you can always tell gnome-terminal to run a regular login shell === blujay [~blujay@adsl-68-95-177-106.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu === SirMud [~mud@ip70-179-233-79.dl.dl.cox.net] has left #ubuntu [] === _tester_ [~yz@216.238.204.91] has joined #ubuntu [04:27] quick ques, my resolution is stuck at 640x480 [04:28] jow can i make it higher [04:28] yeah that's what I did. HrdwrBoB, this is a case of PEBCAK :) [04:29] :) [04:29] marileny - kill X server CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE >> sudo xserver-reconfigure xserver-xorg [04:29] marilenny: you could try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' [04:29] marilenny: search the www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/fixvideoresolution [04:29] goldfish has it right [04:29] thx [04:29] !display [04:29] [display] http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto or ask !Resolution [04:29] just a sec === Touru [~esoteric@static65-87-232-136.regina.accesscomm.ca] has joined #ubuntu === WB0TRA [~WB0TRA@69.46.204.243] has left #ubuntu [] [04:30] k, thats the one === djs [~djs@DC-244-36.bpb.bigpond.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:31] how does one install the stuff needed by System > Preferences > Screen Resolution ? === blackthorne [~asd@blackthorne.user] has left #ubuntu [] [04:31] Oh, its there :) [04:32] why everytime i log in as root in the console i can see the old commands i typed as root? how can i clear that? [04:33] leo_mx: delete .bash_history [04:33] you rule man! :P [04:33] Davey - there are a couple of links handy type !diplay or !resolution [04:33] er display === [set] [~rat@adsl-65-43-179-81.dsl.clevoh.ameritech.net] has left #ubuntu [] === Chislon [~Chislon@24-176-45-129.dhcp.klmz.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu === rem [~rem@adsl-136-116-bs2.tiscali.ch] has joined #ubuntu === daba [~destiny@wnpgmb02dc1-63-143.dynamic.mts.net] has left #ubuntu [] === baijiazi [~baijiazi@60.180.62.25] has joined #ubuntu === TommyH [~tommyh@reiter.plus.com] has joined #ubuntu === penguinparty [~davep@S010600a0cce01511.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu === misfit-toy [~guy@cpe-70-112-252-226.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === abarbaccia [~abarbacci@pcp0011109857pcs.elkrdg01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === mht [~hansen@202.148.21.79] has joined #ubuntu === Davey [~davey@212-0.8-67.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:43] !display [04:43] [display] http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto or ask !Resolution [04:43] !Resolution [04:43] Davey: I haven't a clue [04:43] !resolution [04:43] Davey: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? [04:43] stupid bot === QMario [~ndubisi@adsl-69-154-182-34.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #UBUNTU [04:44] !botsmack [04:44] No idea, Davey [04:44] lol [04:44] Is there a program out there that can help network with Apple/ Macintosh computers? === gizban [~gizban@d150-174-64.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu === QMario wonders. [04:45] QMario: The easiest way is to use samba. [04:45] I still get the "The X Server does not support the XRandR extension. Runtime resolution changes to the display size are not available" [04:45] Mac OS X can act as a Windows file sharing client. [04:45] How? [04:45] Is there some sort of plug-in? === blastmanu [~blastmanu@dyn-83-156-198-37.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #ubuntu [04:45] QMario: no [04:45] QMario: it should be standard === gizban [~gizban@d150-174-64.home.cgocable.net] has left #ubuntu [] [04:46] Okay then, thank you. :-D === blastmanu [~blastmanu@dyn-83-156-198-37.ppp.tiscali.fr] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === QMario [~ndubisi@adsl-69-154-182-34.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has left #UBUNTU [] [04:46] grrr [04:47] hi [04:47] OKAYDOKE [04:48] now === _kevin [~Kevin@CPE0006255ab096-CM400049887786.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:48] my question [04:48] i'm trying to install xfce but it has tons of requirements . is there a way to recursively mark and install all the dependencies? [04:48] fossa: sudo apt-get install xfce4 === rob_ [~rob@cpe-204-210-133-115.hvc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === penguinparty [~davep@S010600a0cce01511.cg.shawcable.net] has left #ubuntu [] [04:48] also apt-get install xfce4-goodies [04:48] can I install ubuntu hoary over debian woody? [04:49] Qmario - did you find ubotu's link? type !samba [04:49] good stuff there too === PovRayMan [~povrayman@c-24-63-87-16.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:49] by doing apt-get dist-upgrade? [04:49] !samba [04:49] well, samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba [04:49] dark: indeed [04:49] am I doing something wrong, that gaim is still @ 1.1.4? [04:49] ok, what the hell is the gkrellm apt-get command to get the themes, this ubuntu stuff is driving me nuts but I'm determined to play it. [04:49] IIIEars: left [04:49] rob_: no [04:49] rob_: Shit gets locked [04:49] Shadowpillar, there are documents on the wiki that walk you through it - but if you've added any software or mucked with woody yourself - it becomes a really tedious process... just reformat ;) [04:49] misfit-toy: apt-cache search gkrellm , might shed some light === ian_brasil [~vern@200-158-47-177.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu [04:49] ah [04:50] Package xfce4 is not available, but is referred to by another package. [04:50] rob_: so you're stuck with 1.1.4 until breezey comes out [04:50] rob_: one downside to debian based systems [04:50] meh [04:50] glad I installed this within virtualpc :X === imaekphp [~imaek@adsl-69-235-83-47.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:51] I dont care as long as it works === Xero84 [~Xero84@cpe-65-24-30-40.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:51] though it WOULD [04:51] goldfish, thanks, interesting, I don't see the 'gkrellm-themes' package listed, hmm. [04:51] BE NICE [04:51] if I could fucking download firefox themes [04:51] wait [04:51] nevermind [04:51] I fixed that ;X [04:51] Shadowpillar, considering gaim is way past 1.1.4 [04:51] I retract that [04:51] Shadowpillar: yeah :/ [04:51] i wish it woudl tell me what other package [04:52] rob_: unless they patch it with some of the new features found in newer releases, you're SOL [04:52] why i cant compile in C even when i gcc package is installed? [04:52] misfit-toy: em, hmm, apt-cache search "gkrellm" maybe... [04:52] rob_: OR [04:52] grab from source [04:52] :P [04:52] I know [04:52] step ahead of you [04:52] rob_: you could uninstall the ubuntu gaim and get the deb from the gaim website ;X [04:52] I was looking for gkrellm themes today too. maybe it has something with gkrellm being so ugly be default [04:52] rob_ does GAIM do transparency yet? (crosses fingers) [04:52] IIIEars, maybe why don't you check :P [04:52] grover: indeed [04:53] misfit-toy: other than that google for them [04:53] goldfish, thanks, that didn't do it, but yeah, I am new to aptget, thanks. [04:53] i might just grab gaim source [04:53] overall this is nice. [04:54] theme is nice on the eyes === Kamping_Kaiser [~kaiser@ppp214-18.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:54] misfit-toy: no problem [04:54] there might not be a themes package [04:54] u just have to get em yourself :) === ben0ne [~ben0ne@200217109043.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu [04:54] can I install ubuntu hoary over debian woody? [04:54] mmm blackjack [04:54] by doing apt-get dist-upgrade? [04:54] I want to upgrade my powermac [04:55] where is there a list of all the stuff i can 'apt-get' ? === Kamping_Kaiser [~kaiser@ppp214-18.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net] has left #ubuntu [] [04:55] fossa: lol === Kamping_Kaiser [~kaiser@ppp214-18.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:55] fossa: em, open up synaptic [04:55] rob_ - this is GNOME overlay your desk with whatever you want on everything. - be careful if you are married. - lol [04:55] fossa: there is loads and loads of stuff [04:55] IIIEars, i'm married to my left hand :P [04:55] eeeeeeeeew === PovRayMan [~povrayman@c-24-63-87-16.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:55] j/k [04:55] :P === Oberone [~anon@93680f0765e07e52.session.tor] has joined #ubuntu [04:56] I *love* the reaction i just got :P [04:56] :) === _Church_of_Foamy [~shane@24-177-160-171.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:56] been there.. [04:56] much cheaper than marriage. [04:56] wb _Church_of_Foamy [04:56] <_Church_of_Foamy> thanx [04:56] search for xfce in synaptic turnsup nothing [04:56] <_Church_of_Foamy> i am still trying to figure out what i want to do [04:56] fossa: have you added multiverse and universe? === Obake [~heaven@68-116-116-123.dhcp.astr.or.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:56] hmm [04:57] <_Church_of_Foamy> i don't know if i want to install ubuntu cd or keep the kubuntu cd [04:57] hi === _mage_work is now known as _mage_afk === hermetic_ [~hermetic@dialup-4.243.57.122.Dial1.Seattle1.Level3.net] has left #ubuntu [] [04:57] <_Church_of_Foamy> i swear theres some busted stuff in here === Kizoo [ast-server@astinus-gentoo.staff.freenode] has joined #ubuntu [04:57] Hi everybody [04:57] hi [04:57] no [04:57] fossa: well you need to add them :) [04:57] !repositories [04:58] does anyone know how to access Windows partition from Ubuntu ? [04:58] hmm... repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto [04:58] Hi Obake [04:58] hi IIIEars ;) [04:58] fossa: that link there [04:58] ubotu, check google, it knows [04:58] rob_: I don't know, could you explain it? [04:58] ok [04:58] "mounting windows partitions under linux" [04:58] google that [04:58] ok [04:58] Obake: www.ubuntuguide.org [04:58] ubotu google [04:58] methinks google is the world's most comprehensive search engine, or http://www.google.com === ben0ne [~ben0ne@200217109043.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu === fishie [~fishie@24.229.126.53] has joined #ubuntu [04:59] I didin't find it in ubuntuguide.org [04:59] Obake: its there :) === imaek [~imaek@adsl-69-235-179-220.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu === gjlynx [~gjlynx@adsl-64-123-15-179.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:59] one sec [04:59] how could I know if I am using Ext2 or Ext3 ? [04:59] /etc/fstab will tell you === bignose__ [~bignose@HSE-Montreal-ppp341563.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu [05:00] ok. ;) [05:00] so.. i read the wiki on dual head setup.. it aint working tho ;) [05:00] rob_: could also use the autopackage version, just won't be recognised by apt ;P [05:00] never touched autopackage [05:00] it's nice [05:00] Obake: typr "mount" [05:00] Obake: www.ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs [05:00] automated installer stuff === r0bby [~wakawaka@cpe-204-210-133-115.hvc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === fossa getting xfce4 now [05:00] fossa: cool === thedaemon [~thedaemon@cable-68-113-72-72.grd.al.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu === Jet2k5 [~zero@fl-71-3-136-33.dyn.sprint-hsd.net] has joined #ubuntu === comfrey advocates ion [05:01] hello [05:01] hi [05:01] Hello, I was here earlier about my internet problems, who can lend me a hand? [05:01] rob_: well even download autopackage for you if you dont have it installed [05:01] Thanks everybody !! :) [05:01] Jet2k5: what problems you got? [05:01] Mind if I ask a newbie question? [05:01] just ask [05:01] thedaemon: thats what the channel is for [05:01] Gog: internet has stopped working [05:01] can I install ubuntu hoary over debian woody? using apt-get dist-upgrade ? [05:01] I think it might be as far as DNS goes [05:02] Shadowpillar: it will be very messy [05:02] as soon as grub boots, and from that point on my cdrom drive no longer works. any ideas? [05:02] Shadowpillar yes [05:02] afaik === PovRayMan [~povrayman@c-24-63-87-16.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu [] [05:02] when I try to connect to something it says that " temporary failure in name resolution " [05:02] its been forever and a year since I have messed with linux :P [05:02] Jet2k5: can you ping the gateway? [05:02] but I can still ping physical addresses === gamemastax` [~game_mast@68-235-3-101.sbtnvt.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:02] Hey guys [05:02] I can ping my own ip address [05:02] 192.168.1.1 [05:02] Obake, you got it? [05:02] Jet2k5... wow... [05:02] hi gamemastax` [05:02] That's not the first thing i want to see when i enter a chat room [05:02] Obake, you can't do read/write on ntfs [05:03] Hey everyone ^^ [05:03] yeah Jet2k5, well that does not mean mutch..., [05:03] currently it's only read-only [05:03] or 194.90.1.5 [05:03] you can write to it [05:03] Jet2k5: check your /etc/resolv.conf [05:03] its experimental though [05:03] ROB: I am still readin about mounting at Ubuntuguide ;) [05:03] Hey, I'm trying to get linux to see my ntfs partition [05:03] does esd create any sort of virtualized /dev entry?? [05:03] comfrey: yeah.. what's suppose to be there [05:03] I can't make changes to it unless I add the -i option to it [05:03] Can someone give me some help or a tutorial or something [05:03] Jet2k5: nameserver addresses [05:03] mount -t ntfs /dev/hda# /mnt/whatever [05:03] gamemastax`: www.ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs [05:03] else it will just overwrite it every time I boot [05:03] ha, I asked, no one had any ideas :) [05:03] people are morons [05:03] gamemastax want to do the same thing as me ;) [05:03] why do i get a ------ configure: error: no acceptable C++-compiler found in $PATH ---- even when my gcc is installed [05:03] thedaemon: i've no idea, sorry [05:03] Jet2k5: you are using dhcp yes? [05:04] no [05:04] pump [05:04] gamemastax: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs === netdur [~adel@adsl196-116-67-206-196.adsl196-3.iam.net.ma] has joined #ubuntu [05:04] I can't use dhcp because of it's ipv6 [05:04] rob_: they are [05:04] leo_mx, "apt-get install gcc" [05:04] maybe a plug and play thing in my motherboard configuration? [05:04] heh, Jet2k5 that is dhcp [05:04] w/o wrotes [05:04] my router doesn't like it :) [05:04] thanks rob === Seq [~chris@CPE0050bf1a898b-CM0011ae907ae4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:04] comfrey: opps I meant yes === stub [~stub@203-217-37-199.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu === DragonFly [vampyre@m59.net81-67-104.noos.fr] has joined #ubuntu [05:04] I meant to say I don't use ipv6 [05:04] <_kevin> dhcp is ipv6??? i have dhcp and it's ipv4 [05:04] so... you can do one of two things... [05:04] _kevin: umm hoary? [05:04] I have an script I wanna exec during boot-up [05:04] <_kevin> yes [05:04] i JUST started using debian and i know this :X [05:05] _kevin: odd, I have ipv6 [05:05] ok, I will be back in a few. wish me luck. [05:05] Rob: What do you mean I can [05:05] I had to get rid of it and use pump [05:05] tou can one... i supdate the nameservers on your router so it hands out good dns server addresses... === Em`Zee [~mzxgiant@cpe-69-207-99-115.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:05] t read and write on NTFS ? [05:05] <_kevin> there should also be eth0 [05:05] <_kevin> only read [05:05] oops === ramblingturtle23 [~ob@c-67-185-73-183.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:05] Obake: you can write but it is dangerous.... [05:05] ROB:.. [05:05] Jet2k5: and the other thing to do is hardcode your ip address... and do not use dhcp. [05:05] Hey guys, is there a way via console (besides writing a daemon script in init.d) to start a program when the system starts? [05:05] comfrey: ok, let me look around ... [05:05] Obake, don't write to it [05:05] what? [05:05] just read it. [05:05] hardcode it [05:06] Dangerous... like Windows's virus getting in my linux partition ? [05:06] ? can i dual boot ubuntu with mandriva [05:06] well what I want to know is why the hell ubuntu decides to make it stop working [05:06] it's been working fine ever since warty [05:06] Hey guys, is there a way via console (besides writing a daemon script in init.d) to start a program when the system starts? [05:06] Jet2k5: no... it is your dhcp server that is telling it the wrong thing [05:06] What are the risks ? [05:06] nobody === jamesstansell [~jamesstan@pm1-ded.ppp163.tulsaconnect.com] has joined #ubuntu === lightboy [~jon@203-219-26-193-bri-ts3-2600.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [05:06] Jet2k5: sounds like this at least [05:06] why dont you just put it up init.. [05:07] Obake, for one, data corruption [05:07] CockRoach-: [05:07] hhmm... [05:07] err comfrey ok, I'm giving my router good DNS [05:07] I have 2 does anyone have a 3rd? :P [05:07] Jet2k5: good plan [05:07] does n e one know the command to create a new user? [05:07] ryan_, I don't know how to write an Init.d script for this particular program (ChilliSpot) [05:07] i installed the flash plugin and it said Note: have ur administrator remove xpti.dat fromt he components directory or soemthing like htat, the thing is that htere are two component directories for mozilla firefox with xpti.dat in it, one starts with usr/lib the other with var/lib, which xpti.dat do i delete? [05:07] Jet2k5: 2 should be plenty [05:07] as long as they both work [05:07] comfrey: cool, these are the ones from my ISP [05:08] lightboy: adduser [05:08] earthlink, so they are always there and good according to them === Davey [~davey@212-0.8-67.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:08] Data Corruption.... [05:08] goldfish: cheers [05:08] Jet2k5: you should switch to a local isp too if you can... [05:08] anybody willing to help a newbie [05:08] I guess I have to investigate, self study about this before I do any moves... [05:08] Thanks for the help guys [05:08] Jet2k5: support your local economy [05:08] Obake: you can read and write to fat32 [05:08] Obake, do what ever you like, but it's a bad idea :P [05:08] oh, is that access point controller [05:08] i made a fat32 partition to share between linux and windows === thedaemon [~thedaemon@cable-68-113-72-72.grd.al.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:09] handy [05:09] comfrey ok... don't know of any .. === jamesstansell [~jamesstan@pm1-ded.ppp163.tulsaconnect.com] has left #ubuntu [] [05:09] :( [05:09] I only have sprint DSL and Road runner by the warner company [05:09] out of 495 people in the room no one is willing to help a newbie [05:09] My disk have like 4 Partition... [05:09] Jet2k5: RR Cable is awesome, FYI [05:09] don't think they are local local ... but they are local .... [05:09] Jet2k5: you rural or urban? [05:09] ramblingturtle23: Yes, you can [05:09] comfrey: umm I would say rural, but urban [05:09] thank you [05:09] I live in Cape Coral, FL [05:10] pretty much this town is a boom town [05:10] it's been populatin 200,000 people each year [05:10] is there another way for me to install stuff (apt-get or whatnot) without using the CD? [05:10] hondje is there one that i should install first or does it not matter [05:10] no place to be during the coming crash [05:10] apt-get install [05:10] ramblingturtle23: doesn't really matter :) [05:10] thedaemon: is it asking for the cd when u apt-get? [05:10] ben0ne: how well would it work? [05:10] Davey: I know, but I have Satellite so it would cost more to get it :O [05:10] yes === gamemastax` [~game_mast@68-235-3-101.sbtnvt.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:10] thank you I really do like ubuntu [05:10] and my cddrive, is not working [05:11] ben0ne: this is on an oldworld mac btw, it'll work as long as I have quik [05:11] thedaemon: uncomment the line containing "cd" in /etc/apt/sources.list [05:11] ubuntu is great [05:11] thedaemon: well, comment it out i mean [05:11] I wonder how good it's going to be with games [05:11] ok [05:11] I'm having trouble getting rhythmbox to recognize mp3s, where can i download and get instructions on installing the mp3 decoder [05:11] ramblingturtle23: why install mdk? [05:11] btw guys, I'm going to be building a computer soon, does ubuntu install the nvidia drivers on it's own? [05:11] or will I also have to download them? [05:11] !restrictedformats [05:11] goldfish: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? [05:11] because i already messed up ubuntu install [05:11] !mp3 [05:11] goldfish: I give up, what is it? [05:11] Jet2k5: u takes care of it [05:11] hmmm [05:11] k [05:11] sweet [05:12] people still play angband? [05:12] how good is Linux with nforce mobo chipsets? [05:12] i am just coming off of windows [05:12] ramblingturtle23: ah. It's fairly easy to do, and as an added advantage you can share your /home partition [05:12] I heard in some cases it's really bad [05:12] Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System [05:12] /dev/hda1 1 589 4452808+ b W95 FAT32 [05:12] /dev/hda2 * 590 11425 81920160 7 HPFS/NTFS [05:12] /dev/hda3 11426 15338 29582280 83 Linux [05:12] /dev/hda4 15339 15508 1285200 f W95 Ext'd (LBA) [05:12] /dev/hda5 15339 15508 1285168+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris [05:12] gamemastax`: www.ubuntulinux.org/#RestrictedFormats i think [05:12] and ubuntu sucks with 64-bit :( [05:12] hondje cool how about the swap [05:12] jet, have to use apt get for your nvidia drives [05:12] drivers [05:12] ramblingturtle23: yep, that too [05:12] Obake: piece of advice, dont flood in here :) [05:12] something about it lacking apps that are compiled in 64-bit [05:12] its what I am doing [05:12] eh.. ? [05:12] gcc is already the newest version. [05:12] 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. [05:12] and even so i cant compile any program [05:12] cool i tried dual booting mdk and arch but that didnt work out [05:13] goldfish, ha there is no cd info there [05:13] oop [05:13] s [05:13] spoke too soon :O I am blind. [05:13] anyways, how is everyone? [05:13] :) [05:13] hondje- i am new to not having windows to fall back on so now mdk has become my windows [05:13] yeah its hard to spot the line [05:13] okay so you have gcc [05:13] dear god [05:13] ramblingturtle23: ah :) [05:13] tracker is working again..PLEASE someone seed liveDVD/installer LOL [05:14] it was 11pm last time i looked, now its 4 am :/ === mindstorm [~darkstar@208.9.115.132] has joined #ubuntu [05:14] ok, how do I edit the text with gedit? its locked/read only. [05:14] comfrey: ok should I reboot === _hp_ [~hp@c-24-91-236-187.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === EvanCarroll [~melazyboy@tx-67-77-73-152.dyn.sprint-hsd.net] has joined #ubuntu === bignose__ [~bignose@HSE-Montreal-ppp341563.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu [05:14] comfrey: when I open up /etc.resolv.conf it says that making changes to it won't work [05:14] just pump it [05:14] Anyone have problems with breezy and WEP, what used to work no longer does, and errors out in dmesg === shawn__ [~Cybermage@ip68-231-152-140.tc.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:14] hondje - 1 last quick ? which boot manager should i use or does this also not matter [05:14] ok, I will mount the partition when I am ready,. WHen I am 100% sure of what I am doing ;) [05:14] thedaemon: 'sudo gedit filename' [05:15] Jet2k5: ... did you update the router? [05:15] in the correct dir? [05:15] yes [05:15] I just did [05:15] added 2 new good DNS servers [05:15] Question: When I install packages like phpmyadmin how do I access it? [05:15] yeah, pump it and dig [05:15] EvanCarroll: read the topic.... not recommended to use it.... === shawn__ is now known as Cybermagellan [05:15] comfrey: lol do you mean reboot? [05:15] no [05:15] pump eth0 [05:15] Obake, mount it read-only [05:15] pump -i eth0 === Jet2k5 is on windows right now [05:15] goldfish: so i used it, and i had a question about it. [05:15] Thank you Rob. [05:16] goldfish: a question which you remark neither answered nor assisted, thanks. [05:16] Jet2k5: you must be in wrong channel ;) [05:16] lol [05:16] Jet2k5: dual boot? [05:16] comfrey: yeah [05:16] or 2 boxes? [05:16] Anyone know? [05:16] for iTunes :) [05:16] lol [05:16] ok then reboot [05:16] ok [05:16] lol [05:17] brb , wish me luck [05:17] umm... I can "su" in ubuntu right? but umm.. I never set root password [05:17] thanks everybody. you have all been really helpful. [05:17] EvanCarroll: well, i dont know the answer, and no-one else will, because no-one in here is using it, i was just trying to be informative. [05:17] do you still want me to run those commands? [05:17] make any editing to /etc/recolv.conf? [05:17] thedaemon: you can [05:17] When I apt-get or install phpmyadmin using synaptic how do I access it? [05:17] no reboot should take care of it [05:17] goldfish: you failed horrably, and you can't speak for what everyone knows. [05:17] it's not in my www folder [05:17] thedaemon: the su password will be the same as the password of the first account made [05:17] you can manually edit resolv.conf if you need to [05:17] thedaemon - ubotu !sudoroot [05:17] Cybermagellan: I believe you view it through your browser [05:17] cause apt-get wants me to do it === kalias [~kalias@S010600095b290aaa.vn.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu === kanuhas [~eddie@66.192.115.157] has joined #ubuntu [05:17] thedaemon - ubotu !rootsudo [05:17] what's that do IIIEars ? [05:17] Jet2k5, you know how? [05:18] thedaemon: sudo apt-get... [05:18] EvanCarroll: Fine. [05:18] Cybermagellan: no how, but I heard that people use it through their web browsers [05:18] I used straight mysql [05:18] why do i get xml parse errors with firefox? [05:18] bad web coding? [05:18] Hmmm... [05:18] ubotu has forgotten the link httP://ubunuguide.org rootsudo [05:18] Bugger all, i dunno, IIIEars [05:18] i was trying to dl the drivers for my radeon 9600 from ati === gamemastax` [~game_mast@68-235-3-101.sbtnvt.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:19] james: :X [05:19] someone give me that Restricted Formats link again? [05:19] sell it and get an nvidia :P [05:19] ubotu..? === Jet2k5 has ati [05:19] thedaemon: its a bot. [05:19] please [05:19] and I tried so damn hard to get it to work [05:19] brb [05:19] k [05:19] cybermagellan: open web browser, point your location to localhost/phpmyadmin [05:19] thedaemon: ubuntu uses sudo. [05:19] btw [05:19] It's a new command to me [05:20] :O [05:20] nickrud: Hi :) How are you this evening? [05:20] last time I really used linux was redhat 5.2.... [05:20] mht. So if I already created a folder already called phpmyadmin I basically started off wrong....I was going to install the package before I tried to apt it [05:20] thedaemon: it runs commands with root priveleges. [05:20] more used to freebsd :) but still not fresh on my mind, window$ on the brain [05:20] ubotu rootsudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo [05:20] ...but rootsudo is already something else... [05:20] kalias hi, catching up on some work here [05:21] thedaemon: :) === nessmuk [~nessmuk@159.205-206-70-0.interbaun.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:21] nickrud: kind of late to be working although I often do it myself especially during crunch time. [05:21] ubotu sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo [05:21] IIIEars: okay [05:21] Can someone please point me to that link? [05:21] ah, mine is an round the clock job, I snag time for myself when I can [05:22] ubotu root is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo [05:22] IIIEars: okay [05:22] gamemastax`: www.ubuntulinux.org/#RestrictedFormats [05:22] ubotu, rootsudo [05:22] rumour has it, rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo [05:22] goldfish: that doesn't seem to work :( [05:22] gamemastax`: i think [05:22] em === MyNameIsChris [~christoph@CWPP-p-144-134-229-163.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [05:22] hold on [05:22] cybermagellan, usually webpage file reside at /var/www/html (as httpd default home), so apt-get phpmyadmin i belive going to that folder too [05:23] Yeah I deleted the folder then reinstalled....I found it now [05:23] thanks [05:23] Can anyone out there recommend a good site for themes or wallpaper? [05:23] If anyone is having trouble trying to build Ati fglrx modules for 2.6.11 it turns out you need these patches - http://ati.cchtml.com/show_bug.cgi?id=110. Seems to be down at the moment though [05:23] gamemastax`: www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats [05:23] thanks [05:23] kalias: deviantart.com for wallpapers [05:23] has anybody tried kicq in ubuntu? [05:24] Thanks everybody (goldgish, and ROB). Now I can read the Windows NTFS partition [05:24] goldfish: can you also get themes there? [05:24] kalias: themes for what? === bigmac99 [~bigmac@cpe-065-184-200-048.ec.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:24] hi everybody [05:24] hello [05:24] goldfish: for setting up different buttons etc for the desktop. [05:25] ok going to restart , hopefully nvidia drivers work, and I can run 1920x1200 on my 24" lcd :) [05:25] kalias: yeah it has icons there too [05:25] thanks guys, goldfish and IIIEars . brb [05:25] mht yeah it wouldn't install with the folder already there....delete and reinstall install worked === bignose__ [~bignose@HSE-Montreal-ppp341563.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu [05:25] can someone tell me where I can specify my monitor in Ubuntu? === RetroMan [~Archimede@adsl-223-129-17.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:25] ubotu gnome themes is http://www.gnome-look.org/ [05:25] okay, IIIEars [05:26] I want to use higher resolutions [05:26] /etc/X11/xorg.conf [05:26] oh [05:26] goldfish: okay, thanks :) This is my first week with a ubuntu system and it is really good. I also have a gentoo system but I think I like this one better. === bignose_ [6effbc26d5@bignose.ca] has joined #ubuntu [05:26] kalias: hehe, im installing gentoo right now :) === Cybermagellan [~Cybermage@ip68-231-152-140.tc.ph.cox.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [05:26] sorry about that joining/unjoining business. [05:26] !display [05:26] rumour has it, display is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto or ask !Resolution [05:26] when I choose screen resolutions from the menu, it only goes up to 1024x768 [05:26] bigmac99: that link there [05:26] got dual headed ness working. [05:26] bigmac99, try dpgk-reconfigure xserver-xorg === spartas [~tim@adsl-065-082-233-182.sip.btr.bellsouth.net] has left #ubuntu ["Off] === comfrey [~comfrey@h-64-105-87-234.sttnwaho.covad.net] has left #ubuntu [] === thedaemon [~thedaemon@cable-68-113-72-72.grd.al.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu === slicslak [~slicslak@S0106000f66e13f97.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:27] I'm back [05:27] thedaemon: work? [05:27] nvidia drivers are install, but no 1920x1200 [05:27] goldfish: what do you think? Gentoo was the first linux system I built. I found it quite hard to install and you need to know lots of details, however, that being said, the support it good. === rosco [~rosco@lsne-catv-dhcp-28-106.urbanet.ch] has joined #ubuntu [05:27] so to Sarge it or not? [05:27] hoary>> sarge? [05:27] ick.. I didn't like sarge [05:27] kalias: well, i installed it and had to rebuild the kernel, forgot something, so ... [05:27] really [05:28] new sarge is out [05:28] I sarge'd a box and promptly installed Fedora [05:28] I "think" is these drivers [05:28] what ever happened to kmplayer ? [05:28] I might have to add in 1920x1200 manually [05:28] kalias: havent really used it yet [05:28] now, I need to fix my cdrom drive :) [05:28] thedaemon: :) === Jet2k5 [~zero@fl-71-3-138-38.dyn.sprint-hsd.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:28] sweet thanks a lot guys! [05:29] goldfish: back to the drawing board? Yes, I know how you feel. I built a stage 1 system on a 300 Mhz pentium. It took a week to compile and another couple of days to get it going. [05:29] kalias: well, no i've been going for the last 6 hours, ive just finished again :) === Davey [~davey@212-0.8-67.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:29] just finished installing lilo there a few minutes ago [05:29] now to reboot :) [05:29] brb [05:29] <_kevin> how do i change the splash screen on ubuntu? === misfit-toy [~guy@cpe-70-112-252-226.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:30] Btw, anyone installed Softimage XSI on ubuntu with luck? [05:30] thanks guys, be right back [05:30] _kevin: the login screen or the little thingie that pops up and shows you gnome's load progress after you put in your username and password? [05:30] goldfish: crumbs you work fast! I take it you have some linux/unix background. When I started gentoo I have never really seen a linux or unix system. It required quite a bit of learning. I work in a windows world like 90% of the population. [05:31] <_kevin> yes [05:31] <_kevin> kvidell [05:31] p..pick one? [05:31] or both? [05:31] the splash screen? [05:31] here I got the link for you [05:31] <_kevin> the gnome load [05:31] http://www.ilc.geektyme.org/viewtopic.php?t=111 === josue [~josue@200.122.157.23] has joined #ubuntu [05:31] go there [05:31] hello [05:32] im writing a new conf for grub and have no access to my ubuntu partition === Davey [~davey@212-0.8-67.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:32] how can i find out where is my kernel and my initrd? [05:32] is it always the same? i have a default os, havent done anything to it [05:32] anyone? === Em`Zee [~mzxgiant@cpe-69-207-99-115.twcny.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [05:33] no idea, I am also new :) [05:33] sorry [05:33] ok thanks [05:33] http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/07/AR2005060701545.html [05:33] maybe someone has an idea [05:33] read that one kids. === discom1 [~discom1@201.14.83.114] has joined #ubuntu [05:33] hello === JDahl [~qwerty@ca-stmnca-cuda4-gen2m1-135.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:33] kalias: nah, i started with ubuntu a while ago, not using linux too long, i just followed the install handbook again :) [05:33] any of the old ones here wants to help out? [05:33] josue: the kernel is in /boot [05:33] JDahl qwerty sucks. [05:33] thank you pestilence, what about initrd/ [05:33] could someone please help me out? how do i mount a floppy to read/write [05:33] anyone here have a sip phone? [05:33] BROKEN_LADDER: no [05:33] do i not add that to grub conf? [05:34] josue: also in /boot [05:34] k [05:34] thx [05:34] please, how do i mount a floppy so i can read/write [05:34] goldfish: cool, I hope it goes well for you :) [05:34] right click on it and monut [05:34] mount [05:34] BROKEN_LADDER, it's not my real name - it's my secret identity === regeya [~shane@dialup-4.159.59.184.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:34] <_kevin> kvidell so can you tell me howto for the gnome load process [05:35] How can I make a file that is read-only (esd.conf) read/write [05:35] mount: I could not determine the filesystem type, and none was specified [05:35] gamemastax`: read only for everyone? [05:35] anybody use Skype? [05:35] discom1 fdisk -l didn't help? [05:36] discom1, your floppy looklikes broken :( [05:36] gamemastax`, use chmod, but isnt it writeable for root? [05:36] whats the command so I can see what my cdrom drive is? [05:36] fdisk -l didn't help or mount? [05:37] thedaemon: there is no specific command i am aware of.. [05:37] broken? that's my name. [05:37] chmod it to what [05:37] well [05:37] from the terminal, how do i edit === Jet2k5 [~zero@fl-71-3-138-38.dyn.sprint-hsd.net] has left #ubuntu [] === Shadow_pillar [~Shadow@pool1161.cvx22-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:37] thedaemon ll /dev/cdrom will show you which physical drive it is [05:37] thedaemon, what do you want? browse your cd? [05:37] well, there is a command to see what drives you have [05:37] gamemastax`: open an editor [05:37] well, mht my drive is not detected for somereason [05:37] thedaemon: ls -l /dev/cdrom [05:37] trying to fix it [05:37] is there a way to automagically satisfy dependencies [05:38] i opened gedit [05:38] for packages [05:38] i think [05:38] heh, an old alias bites me again :) [05:38] rob_ - sudo apt-get -f install ? [05:38] thanks djs [05:38] i think [05:38] nickrud: heh === r0d [~r0d@CPE-65-30-208-109.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:38] Hi nickrud :) - nice you are here. [05:38] thedaemon, bios detected? [05:39] hey IIIEars. Still feeding the bot? ;) [05:39] it works fine, but after grub boots, it doesnt [05:39] goldfish: I need to edit my esd.conf (read-only)... can you take me through that? [05:39] it worked to install ubuntu :O [05:39] is their a better way to check runnig daemon's then w/ ps -aux | grep ? [05:39] gotta be careful or ubotu is going to be an 800lbs gorilla [05:39] r0d: no [05:39] IIIEars how would I find out what it knows? [05:40] i like ububtu.... its the win [05:40] /etc/esound/esd.conf [05:40] my cdrom is also not in the device manager [05:40] nickrud i only know a few of it's commands it's based on the infobot [05:40] goldfish? [05:40] or anyone... [05:40] there is really no info on bloot bot [05:40] gamemastax`: why do you want to edit it? === anubisds [~anu@pcp04417841pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:41] bob2: I need to modify it to release the sound card when it's not using it [05:41] hey, is there a unix command to put the display asleep while in x? === mathieu [~mathieu@dyn-83-155-48-152.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #ubuntu [05:41] !stats [05:41] if you really have to edit it and u know the location of the file just open a terminal and say === mathieu [~mathieu@dyn-83-155-48-152.ppp.tiscali.fr] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [05:41] sudo gedit /location/ofconfig [05:42] then type ur password [05:42] anubisds: xset dmps off [05:42] and edit away [05:42] apt-get -f only forces it to install [05:42] bob2, thanks man, appreciate it [05:42] maybe... back it up first [05:42] <_Church_of_Foamy> my celery stalks at night [05:42] IIIEars who does it belong to? [05:42] r0d: that's not what -f does [05:42] how do I view a postscript file? [05:42] er [05:42] that's all good but it won't let me save it [05:42] rob_: that's not what -f does [05:42] it's just kinda chillin' in my home directory like "yo, sup?" [05:42] kvidell: gb foo.ps [05:42] awesome :) thanks. [05:42] kvidell: er, gv. [05:42] is the esd process running? [05:42] gamemastax`: rerun gedit with sudo [05:43] oh [05:43] i did [05:43] ty [05:43] yeah u hav to use sudo [05:43] ;) [05:43] thedaemon, can you boot with ubuntu livecd? [05:43] sudo cat grep [05:43] what's the command to install packages again [05:44] sudo apt-get install foo [05:44] mht - yes you can it is an excellent way to redefine drive formats and configure grub === Archimedes [~Archimede@adsl-2-250-29.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:44] hah.,.. i forgot my screensaver was on the BSOD one and locked my screen and almost died coz i thought i broke something haha [05:45] hehe [05:45] mht, yes [05:45] I ran live to make sure everything worked [05:45] and it did, I figured something like this would happen [05:45] bob2, what do you think the default display would be? === paulproteus [~paulprote@h-67-102-97-191.mclnva23.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu === bwlang [~bwlang@bb-66-55-211-238.gwi.net] has joined #ubuntu === thedaemon sighs [05:45] 127.0.0.1:0 didnt seem to work with xset [05:46] anubisds: you're doing this over ssh or something? [05:46] n/m got it w/ the force [05:46] anubisds: export DISPLAY=:0 [05:46] no in a konsole [05:46] I got it now though, thanks [05:46] had to do "force" [05:46] I guess cuz kdetv was running and that tries to disable that [05:46] i'm writing a sleep script [05:46] ah === Methynutnut [~Tommy_K@203-217-88-224.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [05:48] thedaemon, wierd, did you mention /dev/cdrom or /media/cdrom or about cdrom at /var/log/dmesg? [05:48] thanks for the tip bob, it works great now === kakalto [~kakalto@wired-210-54-56-37.ps.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu [05:48] huh? :) [05:49] do you mean, run dmesg? === cpdiety [~cpdiety@jpi-min-160-122.dmisinetworks.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:49] thedaemon, nope, see your kernel message === grexk [~grexk@210.213.188.114] has joined #ubuntu [05:49] hello everyone === cpdiety [~cpdiety@jpi-min-160-122.dmisinetworks.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:50] thedaemon, system tools > system log [05:50] mht, not found [05:50] thedaemon: have you tried "sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom"? (sorry if this was asked b4) [05:51] does breezy have a java-package updated for recent sun java? [05:51] yeah, tried that [05:51] oh [05:51] I don't think the kernel level is reading my cdrom [05:51] its really weird [05:51] thedaemon, ok, lets try via console. 'less /var/log/dmesg' [05:52] no such file [05:52] oops [05:52] hold on === benjamin123 [~benjamin@c-24-22-132-30.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:52] bob: do you know how to mute an alsa device? [05:52] thedaemon, the kernel must see your cdrom before another app use it === someluser [~tuxracer@70-32-157-34.clspco.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu === fossa [~nate@cpe-024-211-189-050.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:52] right [05:52] hi.. [05:53] in my terminal, tab completion doesn't work :-) what am i donig wrong? [05:53] the less command rocks!! [05:53] it does [05:53] less and more ! [05:53] thedaemon: it rocks more === Touru [~esoteric@static65-87-232-136.regina.accesscomm.ca] has joined #ubuntu === stub [~stub@203-217-37-199.dyn.iinet.net.au] has left #ubuntu [] [05:53] HrdwrBoB: hah [05:53] but, why would live cd, and the install both read my cdrom drive, but not a finished install === _mage_afk is now known as _mage_work [05:54] can some help me out with my X server [05:54] grexk: whats up? [05:54] have you tried vga=773 on grub [05:54] me? no === decklin [decklin@terminus.rupamsunyata.org] has joined #ubuntu [05:54] thedaemon: do you see your cdrom at dmesg? [05:54] no [05:54] my system doesnt load x server [05:55] at least I can't find it [05:55] #/dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 ntfs rw,user,noauto 0 0 === scorpix [~scorpix@195.226.237.21] has joined #ubuntu === misfit [~guy@cpe-70-112-252-226.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === vkm [~vkm@pool-141-154-55-56.bos.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:56] quit [05:56] thedaemon: you can't see something like this: 'hdc: CREATIVE iR CD5222E-B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive' === stuNNed [~implosion@stunned.user] has joined #ubuntu [05:57] grexk: nvidia card?/ [05:57] nope ati radeon se 9200 [05:57] about where would it be located mht ? [05:57] k [05:57] if i change it to vga=normal [05:58] it works...but i dont like big fonts on my virtual term [05:58] thedaemon: at your /var/log/dmesg [05:58] I mean in the file, near the top or bottom? [05:58] Is ubuntu 4.10 updateable to Hoary? [05:58] <_Church_of_Foamy> amarok dosen't see any of my songs :( === TestDummy [~testdummy@user-v8lmefn.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:59] imaek: of course [05:59] Er, I forget how to add a NTFS drive as read only in /etc/fstab === Jeezis [~roger@jeezis.user] has joined #ubuntu [05:59] imaek: if you stick in the hoary cd to an ubuntu 4.10 machine, it will offer to update you automagically [05:59] (I had to reinstall Ubuntu a couple of days ago, new hard drive) [05:59] #/dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 ntfs ro,user,noauto 0 0 [05:59] something like that [05:59] hullo? [05:59] I don't see it mht [05:59] :( [05:59] damn nickserv [05:59] I know the first three bits [05:59] Thanks, bob2. Converting a friend 8-)~ [05:59] amarok is a hog [06:00] (I remember /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows ntfs...) [06:00] TestDummy: /dev/blah /mnt ntfs umask=002 0 0 [06:00] I forget the rest [06:00] imaek, nice [06:00] thedaemon: find it, enter '/' and 'hdc' [06:00] I remember there being stuff aside umask=002... [06:00] bob2: is 'apt-get dist-upgrade' safe to do upgrading from one version to the next or is there a better way? [06:00] TestDummy: ro is read-only option [06:01] Hm.. [06:01] stuNNed: I'd use aptitude, personally [06:01] hdc: no response (status = 0x80), resetting drive [06:01] hdc: no response (status = 0x80) [06:01] It still seems like bits are missing.. [06:01] bob2: but apt-get dist-upgrade is *sound* ? [06:01] stuNNed: but as long as you look at what apt wants to do, and make sure it doesn't go crazy, it'll be fine [06:01] TestDummy: maybe auto or noauto? [06:01] bob2: k thnx [06:01] stuNNed: np [06:01] still there @goldfish [06:02] TestDummy: the line I have you will work [06:02] I guess I'll give it a whirl. [06:02] grexk: i am, yes === Mikan [~esoteric@static65-87-232-136.regina.accesscomm.ca] has joined #ubuntu === moots [~moots6_1_@adsl-68-23-214-7.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:02] so can you help me out? === Shadow_pillar [~Shadow@pool1161.cvx22-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net] has left #ubuntu ["Save] [06:03] grexk: i've no idea im afraid [06:03] waaaaaaaaa........ [06:04] can you try that on your machine? append vga=773 on grub... [06:04] lol [06:04] i dont have ubuntu right now [06:04] or grub [06:04] Er, while I'm at it. Any way to change the colour of text on the top of the bar in Gnome? Having it transparent with black text doesn't seem to help with dark backgrounds. [06:04] how can i make apt-get install the most bleeding edge package available? === Tomcat_ [~Tomcat@p54A1ABF7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu [06:04] you get that mht ? [06:04] BROKEN_LADDER: you can't, use gentoo [06:04] with oggenc for instance, i want the most recent libogg and libvorbis out. [06:05] bob2 but the packages exist on the debian site. [06:05] BROKEN_LADDER: that's awesome, use debian then [06:05] huh? [06:05] ok then thanks anyways @goldfish [06:05] i thought debian packages WERE ubuntu packages. [06:05] BROKEN_LADDER: installing debian packages on an ubuntu system will make it no longer an ubuntu system [06:05] grexk: sorry === JessupX [~jessupx@cpe-67-49-30-70.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:05] BROKEN_LADDER: not in the sense that you mean [06:05] ubuntu doesn't host its own packages does it? [06:05] hello [06:05] BROKEN_LADDER: er, of course it does [06:05] hi JessupX [06:05] I'm trying to properly install a 2.6.10 kernel on my Ubuntu Hoary machine via the Debian kernel package tools. When I try to boot the new kernel, I get a kernel panic ("not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs ..."). The only difference in GRUB settings for the new kernel and the one that came with Hoary is the new kernel doesn't have an initrd entry; I don't know how to build a correct one, and naively adding --initrd to make-kpkg kernel [06:05] anyone know what "sireg -setcoex" is? [06:06] anyone try using a gigafast wireless nic in ubuntu? [06:06] thedaemon: something error with kernel i suppose, kernel not recognice the cdrom. Do you upgrade your kernel? [06:06] vkm: why did you build your own? what didn' the ubuntu kernel offer? [06:06] usb [06:06] who has tried to append vga=773 on grub successfully? === cyphase [~cyphase@69.111.160.121] has joined #ubuntu [06:07] checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! hmmm ? [06:07] is there a searchpage for apt-get applications? [06:07] Pop_pa_FrEaK: what are you trying to compile? [06:07] bob2 so if i compile my own libogg and libvorbis, packages that relie upon them can or cannot use my compiled versions? [06:07] why must wireless usb adapaters be such a pain in linux... [06:07] thedaemon: packages.ubuntu.com [06:07] mht, default install [06:07] thanks bob2 [06:07] amarok svn version [06:07] JessupX: they're a pain everywhere [06:07] bob2: APM support (as opposed to the newer power management system, forget the acronym, that doesn't play nice with my laptop). [06:07] Pop_pa_FrEaK: run this then: sudo apt-get install build-essential ; sudo apt-get build-dep amarok [06:07] i hate to say it, but it works fine in xp [06:07] advanced power management. [06:08] vkm: you can disable ACPI without recompiling === leo_mx [~leo@200.94.147.50] has joined #ubuntu [06:08] thedaemon: search page? [06:08] packages.ubuntu.com works [06:08] k [06:09] see, I need to make sure some apps/libs are installed to get XSI to install [06:09] BROKEN_LADDER: depends === cpdiety [~cpdiety@jpi-min-160-122.dmisinetworks.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:09] BROKEN_LADDER: there's a reason maintaing packages requires skill [06:09] bob2: Even if I can install APM support also (in a module-only fashion), I would like to know how to properly build and install a kernel on an Ubuntu machine. === [koji] [~[koji] @host-67-128-166-59.entouch.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:09] vkm: don't include an initrd then, and make sure you configure everything you need INTO the kernel, not as modules [06:09] thedaemon: try update your kernel, if that not solve your problem, i dont have other advice right now :( [06:09] ok, thanks lots === Davey [~davey@davey.user] has joined #ubuntu [06:10] BROKEN_LADDER: what's so awesome about the newest libogg? === Pixel83 [~pixel@p54AAEBD7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:10] bob2: I disabled ramdisk support in the kernel I built; it was the only initrd-related setting I could find, though I could have missed something. [06:10] bob2 is that giving me the kde desktop as well ? [06:11] Pop_pa_FrEaK: no [06:11] ok [06:11] im having problems with crackling sound effects === deFrysk [~deFrysk@f213190.upc-f.chello.nl] has joined #ubuntu [06:11] i noticed that ubuntu has the prism2_usb kernel module [06:11] vkm: what is your aim? to learn how to compile a kernel or to disable ACPI? [06:11] im using alsa for both media selectors in gnome, and have edited esd.conf and asound.conf [06:11] any ideas? [06:11] amarok and dvds play fine [06:12] but it doesnt have the configuration binary that sets the wlan0 device [06:12] JessupX: is your wireless adapter prism based? [06:12] JessupX: yes it does [06:12] yeah [06:12] JessupX: install the linux-wlan-ng package [06:12] <[koji] > how do you set dma on a usb dvd burner? [06:12] thats the driver they provide from the vendor [06:12] JessupX: no, that's the userland tools to configure it [06:12] bob2: I have three goals of equal priority: 1) disable ACPI 2) enable APM 3) learn to how build a custom kernel in Ubuntu (I have already done it many times for 2.0 and 2.2 era kernels, without the package tools, though it's been a few years) [06:13] how do i get that? I have never used ubuntu before, but have used slackware [06:13] vkm: 1 and 2 are easy, boot with noacpi. [06:13] JessupX: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto [06:13] JessupX: or sudo aptitude install linux-wlan-ng [06:13] i have a usb keychain that I use for moving files over to it until i get the network going, then i am set [06:13] bob2 it's better [06:13] JessupX: wireless "just worked" for me, but i had to have an interface configured in /etc/network/interfaces [06:13] bob2: do you know why /usr/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/modules/libnfs.so not present? [06:13] BROKEN_LADDER: in what way is it "better"? [06:13] bob2 the newest libogg and libvorbis have improved upon previous flaws. [06:13] bob2: But APM support is not compiled in by default. Presumably I also need to build APM, entirely as a module, and load it. [06:13] Seq ok, will look there too [06:14] bob2 for one thing it can produce better compression. [06:14] reading wiki [06:14] Seq: JessupX's problem is that his/her card is only supported by linux-wlan-ng, which is crap and incompatible with what most other stuff works [06:14] BROKEN_LADDER: riiiight [06:14] bob2 don't be idiotic. [06:14] BROKEN_LADDER: so, wait for breezy to be released === syntaxerror64 [~dan@pcp03934904pcs.sthind01.mo.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:14] lol [06:14] BROKEN_LADDER: or use breezy, but when it breaks, you get to fix it [06:14] bob2 substantial improvements were made in its tunings for lower bitrate compression. [06:15] JessupX: though my adapter is pcmcia, and has good support by native drivers, and gets configured by cardmgr rather than hotplug i believe [06:15] vkm: indeed, then load the apm module after boot (which the default kernel includes) [06:15] Changes include several platform and build fixes, documentation for multiplexed streams, and other goodies. Have at it. === JessupX [~jessupx@cpe-67-49-30-70.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === TestDummy [~testdummy@user-v8lmefn.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:15] <[koji] > how do you enable dma on a usb dvd burner? [06:15] hmm lost connection [06:15] The new libogg fixes some FLAC issues and libvorbis 1.1.0 features the new tunings from aoTuV. [06:15] Um... yeah, I just tried adding that to /etc/fstab and it says "umount=022" is incorrect [06:15] thank you bob2 it helped tons [06:16] TestDummy: er, umask=002 [06:16] bob2: And what about this whole kernel-build business? [06:16] Pop_pa_FrEaK: np [06:16] but yeah, thats the right package, i need to download it in file form, so i can move it over to the system that needs it === FireEgl [Triton@2002:449f:ad61:1:0:0:0:1] has joined #Ubuntu [06:16] Wait.. [06:16] vkm: that's for building external modules, aiui [06:16] is there like a grand list of ubuntu packages that I can click to download one by one? [06:16] vkm: if you really want to learn how to build a kernel, get the source, start fr mthe default config and select only what your hardware needs [06:16] JessupX: packages.ubuntu.com [06:16] bob2: Huh? make-kpkg can be used for both the kernel image itself and externel modules. [06:17] vkm: yes, it can [06:17] bob2 awesome [06:17] Okay, I must have screwed up there.. [06:17] thanks [06:18] bob2: I have done the configuration process to my satisfaction, as I have many times before (for older kernels, where installation was done by hand). What I'm not clear on is a) what this initrd business is, and why it's persisting after I exlcuded ramdisks from my kernel and b) how to use the kernel package system to properly install the kernel, if a) isn't the problem. [06:18] now were getting somewhere.. :) [06:19] and why does my xorg.conf keep reverting to a version that is older?... it should open the newer one with 1400x1050 resolution.. [06:19] anyone know how to install sun's jdk as a .deb? [06:20] i have crackly sound effects, anyone want to help me? [06:20] make-jpkg doesn't want to work for jdk's from the last year or so === Arthemys [~arthemys@dsl39.barrvtel.sover.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:20] ever since i edited esd and asound.conf, dvds and amarok work fine, but crackly sound effects [06:20] sproingie: blackdown might work [06:20] it used to be simple to fix this script, now it's moved to some damn "plugin" nastiness [06:20] bob2: Also, for the record, using the default Hoary kernel, manually rmmod-ing the acpi modules, then attempt to insmod apm.ko yields a "-1: no such device" error. [06:21] anyone know how to get gnome bit torrent working? it won't let me choose a location for my files.. [06:21] sproingie: dont' forget to email sun and complain if this annoys you [06:21] bob2: i don't want blackdown [06:21] bob2: it's not sun's fault [06:21] vkm: yes, unloading the modules isn't enough [06:21] stupid q, how do you install .deb files [06:21] dpkg -i blah.deb [06:21] sproingie: er, yes it is. if it was under a useful license, it would be in ubuntu. [06:21] awesome === misfit-toy [~guy@cpe-70-112-252-226.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === pepperpot [~pepper@216.59.239.226] has joined #ubuntu [06:21] bob2: gee thanks [06:21] wb misfit-toy [06:21] do RPM's work in ubuntu? [06:22] alien blah.rmp [06:22] yo goldfish just testing stuff [06:22] thedaemon: sort of. with alien. they won't participate in dependencies [06:22] vkm: a) an initrd is an "initial ramdisk", which the bootloader loads at the same time as the kernel. it contains a bunch of modules, so the kernel can load them bfore the root filesystem is mounted. [06:22] gives u a .deb [06:22] thedaemon: So long as you don't try installing anything like libraries or any other stuff. [06:22] misfit-toy: cool :) [06:22] vkm: it saves you having to compile everything into the kernel [06:22] just db2-2.4.14-10.i386.rpm [06:22] I seem to lose wireless way quicker with ubuntu than what I get with fedora, hmmm [06:22] vkm: b) you need some special options enabled in the kernel for this to work, which the default ubuntu config has [06:22] is alien installed by default? [06:22] thedaemon: yeah [06:23] i could install the jdk with alien, but then how do i force the installation of the java-virtual-machine package then? [06:23] ubuntu drops to about 66 percent when I go outside on this laptop, going to test again since I need a cigar [06:23] ;p [06:23] misfit-toy: lol [06:23] sproingie, why dont you just download the binary installer and dump the files to /usr/local/java? [06:24] JDahl: i'd like to, but then i want to force java-virtual-machine to be installed so that the damn thing doesn't try to install kaffee [06:24] interesting, so I have goldfish here in #ubuntu, and thingfish in #fedora, you need to hook up. ;)\ === stuNNed [~implosion@stunned.user] has left #ubuntu [] [06:24] how do I find out what version software I have? [06:24] use equivs to make a fake java-virtual--machine package then [06:24] ok, here we go, down the stairs and out the front door...everyone kill a chicken. [06:25] any pointers to "equivs for dummies"? [06:25] bob2: Ah. And the kernel source packages from universe (I think) don't have the ubuntu patches by default? === JessupX crosses fingers and reloads the prism2_usb module [06:25] vkm: er, they kernel source packages (at least linux-source-*) in universe are horribly broken [06:25] vkm: but their config is just about the same [06:26] bob2: Heh. I'm using linux-source-2.6.10. Is there a better (2.6.10) package to use? [06:26] thedaemon: use 'system > administration > synaptic package manager' === AlohaWolf [alohawolf@cpe-67-49-96-168.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:26] why some programs have such a big fonts....for example, i installed skype..and the program's fonts are huge [06:26] vkm: that's the only supported one in hoary, afaik [06:26] ty again mht! [06:26] bob2: So, if I stick with Ubuntu Hoary, I lose on building my own kernel. === tkiesel [~tkiesel@64.6.41.137] has joined #ubuntu [06:27] Hiya all. [06:27] bob2: (Without much more work, which I'd consider if I could find out what it was, exactly.) === miscz_ [~miscz@amy134.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu [06:27] thedaemon: use Synaptic, apt-get frontend [06:27] vkm: use kernel-package. i build my own kernel all the time [06:27] misfit-toy: lol [06:28] misfit-toy: i've be warned to avoid fedora :) [06:28] sproingie: I am. (I'm having an initrd-related issue building from the linux-source-2.6.10 package on Hoary.) [06:28] vkm: er? [06:28] vkm: no [06:28] vkm: the linux-source-2.6.10-5 or whatever package is fine [06:29] mht [06:29] umm, how do you pm, lol, been a while for irc as well [06:29] bob2: Er, you said the linux-source-* packages were "horribly broken". Should I be finding a way to get a linux-source-2.6.10-something from a source other than universe, or? [06:30] thedaemon: pm? [06:30] I don't want to spam the room [06:30] vkm: no, I said " kernel source packages (at least linux-source-*) in universe" [06:30] wlanctl-ng: no such device :( [06:30] private message you mht :P [06:30] vkm: 2.6.10 is in main, and is where the kernel all five bajillion hoary users are running came from [06:30] thedaemon: ok [06:31] how do I do that? [06:31] goldfish, fedora is nice, it's what you get for bleeding edge, but ubuntu looks like it's going to be my outdoor at the bar in the backyard distro [06:31] "mht hi [06:31] grr [06:31] bob2: Okay... so if I have the version from main, it should have the right patches to play nice with initrd and the kernel package tools, right? [06:31] vkm: yes === Administrator_ [~GD@ppp3-adsl-206.ath.forthnet.gr] has joined #ubuntu === Administrator_ is now known as |GD| [06:32] When installing XSI 3.0.1 on RedHat 8.0 the folowing type of error messages appear near the end of the install. [06:32] Error : sireg - setcoex /usr/Softimage/XSI_3.01/Application/bin/libsireg.so /usr/SoftimageXSI_3.01/Application/bin/libsireg.so [06:32] Error : sireg -setval key=Interactive CacheActive value=0 [06:32] Cause === misfit-toy has a lot to learn about this .deb based distro [06:32] The installation program requires libdb.so.3 to be installed. This version is not installed with RedHat 8.0 [06:32] bob2: Given the error I reported, it's likely I got the universe version then, no? [06:32] Solution [06:32] Install db2-2.4.14-10.i386.rpm (Berkeley Database) [06:32] This RPM can be found on either RedHat 7.2 or 7.3 CDs, or from pmfind.net [06:32] Or install compat-db3.3.11-2 (included in the RH 8.0 distro) [06:32] Red Hat [06:32] vkm: it sounded exactly like your config was screwed [06:32] crap [06:32] thedaemon: wtf [06:32] sorry [06:32] really === mpm [~helio7@pool-71-102-148-75.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:32] didn't mean to spam [06:32] thedaemon: libdb2 - The Berkeley database routines (run-time files) [06:32] thedaemon: it's in ubuntu [06:32] not db2 [06:33] :\ [06:33] no matter where you go, there you are. [06:33] erm [06:33] they are the same thing [06:33] misfit-toy: ah right.. well i was told it sucks :) [06:33] Audio question: On Haory, anyone else ever have the problem of OSS and ALSA not testing right in the "Multimedia Systems Selector", while ESD works just dandy? If I have XMMS try to use OSS or ALSA, it hangs. === TestDummy [~testdummy@user-v8lmefn.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:33] well, its not working, I am getting that problem [06:33] Hoary, even. lol. [06:33] goldfish, never believe anything, test yourself. [06:33] indeed [06:33] any ideas the simplest way to connect to a shared folder on a WinXP machine from my box with ubuntu (samba installed) (feel free to point me toward your favorite howto) [06:33] thedaemon: erm [06:33] hehe [06:33] <|GD|> hello... I'm trying to install Ubuntu 5.04 AMD64 on an Acer Turion notebook but the PC locks up as soon as I reach the language selection menu in the installation procedure... any ideas as to what could be wrong? [06:33] see my problem bob2 [06:33] thedaemon: you're having problems installing on *redhat*? [06:33] no [06:34] that's the only help I have found though [06:34] Er.. well, I finally got that drive added (And I looked it up, it's "umask=0222" instead of "umount=022", or whatever) but, instead of /dev/hda1 and /media/windows, it won't show up [06:34] ubuntu, but same error [06:34] mpm: I can email you my /etc/fstab to show you an example. [06:34] thedaemon: so, paste the error to #flood [06:34] I remember being able to access it from the computer menu too === misfit-toy is liking ubuntu though....ok, back out for more wireless testing...I seem to get a much lower signal with ubuntu...let's test again... [06:34] TestDummy: as I said, it should be umask=002 [06:34] tkiesel: fstab has samba info?? [06:34] I didn't mean to post here :P [06:34] is editing the esd.conf and asound.conf still the best way to get alsa to work? [06:34] thedaemon: presumably that wasn't your actual error [06:35] thedaemon: so, tell us what you're trying to do, what isn't working... [06:35] bob2: Huh. Any thoughts as to how? I based the config off of the one that came with my default kernel; it builds everything under the sun as a module, but other than that seems a fine starting place. [06:35] I am trying to install Softimage XSI on Ubuntu [06:35] mpm: Yeah, you can set samba automounts in fstab. My Ubuntu box automatically mounts some of the shares on my wife's Windows XP box. [06:35] tkiesel: go to places -> network menu [06:35] vkm: so, use the exact default kernel [06:35] vkm: and only disable the trivial things you care about [06:35] Done bob. This'll help fix my sound issues? [06:36] bob2: looking it up, I'm told "umask=0222" for a NTFS read only mount [06:36] vkm: and then build it as make-kpkg --initrd kernel-imae ... === diego [~diego@ppp-70-247-199-204.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:36] Which actually does work for me, now. But it's not showing up in certain places. [06:36] TestDummy: "in certain places"? [06:36] ok, out in the front yard, we're dropped to about 75 percent wireless strength [06:36] tkiesel: ok, not you, sorry [06:36] Like "Places > Computer" in Gnome [06:36] mpm: places menu -> network [06:36] Heehee. No problem. [06:36] If if connected vi a linksys wifi router (via ethernet) I should be able to network with a windows machine on the actual wireless signal right? [06:36] bob2: My config started from /boot/config-2.6.10-whatever (that came with the default kernel); I have built versions that differ only w.r.t. ACPI and APM, but have the same problem [06:36] bob2: smb:/// is what I see there [06:37] And on Add File boxes, I used to have it show up on the side bar with the cd drive and / [06:37] that doesn't happen with fedora, I get 99 percent all over my property...hmmm [06:37] mpm: I think it'll work like a charm, yeah. :) === leo_mx [~leo@200.94.147.50] has joined #ubuntu [06:37] mpm: and no shares? [06:37] vkm: show us the make-kpkg line [06:37] bob2: yeah I don't see it, although it does have shares === _linuxAS_ [~linuxAS@cm-213-141-61-175.telecable.es] has joined #ubuntu === JovenComunista [~e1980@201.249.81.219] has joined #ubuntu [06:38] and yet my resources are GREAT with ub [06:38] bob2: I have tried "make-kpkg kernel_image" and "make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image"; the latter yielded the "danger cramfs blah blah" thing that I originally asked about. === Daehlie_ [~daehlie@bc116121.bendcable.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:38] vkm: ok [06:39] mpm: Is your Samba configured to be in the same workgroup as the machine you're wanting to connect to? [06:39] bob2: Also, I booted with noacpi as a boot option (or think I did - I apprended noacpi to the end of the grub kernel line [06:39] gnome's smb stuff does not use samba at all [06:39] vkm: maybe it's acpi=off, I forget [06:39] do i have to makenod or something to get this wlan0 device? [06:39] bob2: but the acpi modules still loaded. once I removed them, I had the same -1 no device error for APM. Alright, I'll poke around about that. [06:39] yum === [koji] [~[koji] @host-67-128-166-59.entouch.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:39] JessupX: network interfaces don't have device nodes [06:39] svn and mingw cross compiler [06:39] :> === r0bby humps ubuntu [06:39] tkiesel: maybe not how/where do I set my ubuntu "workgroup"? [06:40] r0bby: oh behave [06:40] bob2: Yep, it's acpi=off. Trying that. [06:40] I am [06:40] you don't know what I do with it when nobody is around [06:40] :P [06:40] O:-) === Drone4four [Drone4four@CPE00045ad66506-CM0012c9dafda0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:40] ubotu tell mpm !samba [06:40] I changed it in /etc/samba/smb.conf There's a "WORKGROUP=" setting in there. [06:40] !samba [06:40] samba is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba [06:40] stoned bots, great :) [06:41] <|GD|> could a lockup during the language selection in setup indicate a framebuffer problem? the screen seems to be rendered properly though... [06:41] lol @hondje [06:41] ok IIIEars thanks [06:43] <[koji] > How do I enable dma on a usb dvd burner? === A[D] minS [~Whisky@196.204.208.25] has joined #ubuntu === ablyss [~ablyss@209.186.149.44] has joined #ubuntu [06:43] Guys can i install ubuntu from Harddisk ? === misfit-toy [~guy@cpe-70-112-252-226.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:44] i have iso but havn't Cd-rom right now so i extract it on hraddisk [06:44] can i install it using boot disk? [06:44] [koji] : hdparm -d1 /dev/whateverurdvddriveis === misfit-toy [~guy@cpe-70-112-252-226.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:44] <[koji] > man says its for ide devices [06:45] hdparm doesn't work with usb [06:45] ah [06:45] sorry [06:45] <- tard [06:46] i have postfix running, but i dont show port 110 open.. is this normal ? if so how does postfix receive incoming mail? [06:46] i wonder why it doesnt create the wlan0 device === pmazer [~pmazer@c-67-191-170-172.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:46] abarbaccia: 110 is pop3, for getting mail _off_ a server and into your mail client [06:46] oops, that was for ablyss [06:47] if i run xorgconfig, is there going to be anything from the default ubuntu install which will be overwritten? === spo0nman [~pankaj@global-pix1.bangalore.corp.yahoo.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:47] ablyss: mail servers listen on port 25 for incoming mail from mail clients, or from other mail servers [06:47] and, how do i restart the xorg server? [06:47] ctrl-alt-backspace === adam__ [~adam@207-237-233-165.c3-0.nyr-ubr2.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:48] oeh! [06:48] hyphenated, so i dont need port 110 ? [06:48] A[D] minS: you have to burn it, network boot it or put it on a usb disk === ramblingturtle23 [~dude@c-67-185-73-183.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:48] ablyss: port 110 is only used by pop3. only you know if you need that or not. [06:48] Just installed Hoary... My onboard video isn't recognized. How do I reconfigure Xorg? === ganatronic [~ganatroni@ip68-6-40-116.sb.sd.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:48] ablyss: i810? [06:48] if i knew i knew i needed.. i would't be asking [06:48] ablyss: er [06:49] ubotu Ubuntu is Open the gates To East and West Bring in all That's good and best. - Lenrie Peter [06:49] IIIEars: okay [06:49] ablyss: no one can help you answer that question, sorry [06:49] adam__, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but that should've worked during installation [06:49] JDahl, I'll give it a try. Thanks. [06:49] ablyss: do you want a pop server? do you know what one is? what are you trying to do? === Mosik [Mosik@IGLD-84-228-104-108.inter.net.il] has joined #ubuntu === Mosik [Mosik@IGLD-84-228-104-108.inter.net.il] has left #ubuntu [] [06:49] bob2, i ran both smtpd and pop3d for years [06:50] adam__, if your card supports Vesa, you could try that [06:50] i am not use to having a mail server only run smptd and not pop3 [06:50] ablyss: apparently not on unix [06:50] ablyss: so, pick a pop3 server and install it. dovecot-pop3 is nice [06:50] what is wrong with postfix and why does it not handle pop3 ? [06:50] ablyss: nothing is wrong with it === newbie [~grexk@210.213.188.114] has joined #ubuntu [06:51] ablyss: no smtp server does pop3 on unix [06:51] ablyss: this is how proper mail systems work [06:51] okay [06:51] ablyss: you install a smtp server, which sends and receives mail. [06:51] ablyss: if you want pop, you install a pop server, too === ablyss takes notes === weazle [~weazle@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has left #ubuntu [] [06:52] I just ran top and it's showing Kaffeine using around 98% cpu. Problem is I closed Kaffeine, and then removed it === ws007 [~ws007@202.95.135.254] has joined #ubuntu [06:52] Any ideas? [06:52] ganatronic: look at the PID in the leftmost columne === ubuntutester [~ubuntu@203-206-252-167.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [06:52] ganatronic: then hit k and type the pid, then enter === Daehlie [~daehlie@bc116121.bendcable.com] has joined #ubuntu === buffbikedude [~ben@MTI-144.ppp.nau.edu] has joined #ubuntu [06:53] ablyss: what pop3/smtp server have you used that did both? [06:53] on windows, I guess? [06:53] BeOS [06:53] hah [06:53] Thanks bob2, you're the bestest [06:53] ganatronic: (programs can continue running after the files on disk are deleted, in linux) [06:54] interestingly, on solaris they will segfault when the file is deleted === buffbikedude [~ben@MTI-144.ppp.nau.edu] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === haich [~haich@2.Red-81-33-105.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:54] ganatronic - That is the best way. The Linux way. - you can also "Add to Panel" "Force Quit" bottom or top panel. right click settings. [06:54] actually BeOS maybe just used smptd but I didn't know what i was doing then either [06:55] but i had was not faced with all these damn permissions :P [06:55] Ah, I see. Thanks guys. === misfit [~guy@cpe-70-112-252-226.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:55] how can i view a ntfs partition from the ubuntu livecd ? [06:56] ubuntutester: mount /dev/path/to/ntfs /mnt/mount/point -t ntfs [06:56] make sure the mount point exists before mounting [06:57] ubuntutester, it might be automounted under /media/xxx [06:57] is there any GUI way of doing it? in PClinux you just right-click i think === lonnie [~lonnie@pcp01896384pcs.dallas01.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === adam__ [~adam@207-237-233-165.c3-0.nyr-ubr2.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:57] ubuntutester: well, I suggest you get familiar with a few commands if you decide to use linux [06:57] CLI is more powerful in ways GUI will never be [06:58] man and mount are two you should get familiar with [06:58] i am aware of that, but would rather not use cli [06:58] Just installed Hoary... It turns out that the video card was detected fine, and it has reasonable resolutions in the xorg.conf file, but the server insists on coming up in 640x480. I think it might be having trouble with the monitor refresh rates. Suggestions? === cody [~cody@2416455hfc38.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:58] well, as far as I know, I don't think there's another way [06:58] maybe the diskmounter applet fr gnome === Touru is now known as Mikan === Mikan [~esoteric@static65-87-232-136.regina.accesscomm.ca] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [06:59] well, I use Kubuntu, so, I wouldn't know about that === Morten^Toft [~Morten^To@97885a6c72e9fca8.session.tor] has joined #ubuntu === hanami [~hanami@202.67.46.6] has joined #ubuntu [06:59] adam__, google for XFree86Config and the name of your monitor.. Then use those refresh-rates in advanced monitor setup under dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [06:59] back when I first started with Linux, when I was 11, IIRC, I used mount always === br33zy [~br33zy@cpe-66-27-118-223.san.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [07:00] the command I had the hardest time learning was chmod, confused the crap out of me [07:00] lol [07:00] yeah [07:00] it's confusing [07:00] and the man page doesen't help much [07:00] JDahl, Okay, thanks. I'll try that now. [07:00] indeed :) [07:00] hi [07:00] i have 64-bit hoary, so i am guessing i cant see flashplayer-mozilla because it is a 32bit lib/prog/whatever. so, how can i get that 32-bit version installed? === Touru [~esoteric@static65-87-232-136.regina.accesscomm.ca] has joined #ubuntu === newbie [~grexk@210.213.188.114] has joined #ubuntu [07:01] I was pushed head-first into Linux CLI, the GUI never worked on the mahcine I tried it on, and thus, I was fored to learn BASH === rover_dan [~daniel@220.248.128.10] has joined #ubuntu [07:01] *forced [07:01] I still love vi, to this day === hard_i [~master@rapla.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:01] vi/vim is great [07:01] cli is the way to go [07:02] I tried to learn vi once. Gave up and used nano. === Stargazer [~Stargazer@24.86.31.199] has joined #ubuntu [07:02] yeah, my IRC client is CLI ;) [07:02] Some vi features are great, others bog it down. [07:02] an SSH connection, actually [07:02] what the hell is CLI? [07:02] command line [07:02] ah [07:02] interface [07:02] hehe [07:02] Jormundgand: I learned vi when I was 11 ;) [07:02] Razor-X: So you handle the PING/PONG yourself? [07:02] ok' [07:02] Command Line Interface [07:02] goldfish, wanna answer my quesiton? [07:02] Jormundgand: I didn't say Telnet, now did I? [07:02] Razor-X: do u use mp3blaster to play mp3's ? [07:02] but, I have used IRC telnet [07:02] a fun experience [07:02] i use netcat to irc :) [07:02] goldfish: not on this machine [07:03] goldfish: hah [07:03] goldfish: cplay is a nice alternative [07:03] bob2: oooh, must try it out. [07:03] thanks [07:03] ok [07:03] i have 64-bit hoary, so i am guessing i cant see flashplayer-mozilla because it is a 32bit lib/prog/whatever. so, how can i get that 32-bit version installed? [07:03] 64bit horary as in x86 or solaris ? [07:03] Hi.. I'm new to ubuntu.. I just installed ubuntu ppc... Then I when into synaptic to install the Kubuntu desktop for KDE... I restarted but it still boots into Gnome.. How do you boot into KDE? === buffbikedude [~ben@MTI-144.ppp.nau.edu] has joined #ubuntu [07:03] br33zy: reinstall the 32-bit i386 port [07:03] br33zy: not sure, really, I don't have 64bit hoary [07:03] bob2, how? [07:03] ablyss: there's no "64 bit hoary", there is an amd64 port, tho [07:03] oh [07:04] eh ok [07:04] I don't know why people keep calling it "64bit" [07:04] br33zy: either reinstall with the i386 port, or create a 32-bit chroot [07:04] Stargazer: I think it has to do with choosing your session at the login screen. [07:04] bob2: you mean, it's a plain port? [07:04] i think it might be because most of hte libs/programs are 64-bit libs/programs [07:04] br33zy: presumably the latter is documented in the wiki [07:04] Stargazer:try "xinit -- :1", then startkde [07:04] See if KDE is an option there when you login. === rince2k [~rince@dsl-084-056-143-246.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:04] hey [07:04] I thougt they added extra features and such [07:04] Stargazer: click sessions and choose kde.. [07:04] br33zy: well, yes, but all the libs on the alpha port are 64-bit, too [07:04] i need somehelp i have tryed everything [07:04] at login prompt [07:04] hi cody [07:05] hey [07:05] me and my friend have a problem [07:05] Razor-X: er, the packages on all 3 are basically identical [07:05] well doesn't it use a 64 bit cpu [07:05] when we installed [07:05] bob2, well i guess it wouldn't matter much than :-P [07:05] bob2: oh, hmm, I didn't know that [07:05] ubuntu === lurah [~lurah@dsl-tregw2l0a.dial.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu [07:05] ablyss: yes, but so do lots of other architectures [07:05] we was using my default internal card === elmaya [~elmaya@dsl-200-78-65-121.prod-infinitum.com.mx] has joined #ubuntu [07:05] now im on my ati after we did alot of work to it [07:05] wiki eh? will check [07:05] but [07:05] crap! I have to keep working on my Science Warmups! [07:06] we cant get it to work with the new drivers [07:06] any of them === lonur_ [~kham@adsl-69-211-94-190.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:06] your ati video card [07:06] cody [07:06] yes [07:06] what did you have in before that [07:07] br33zy: irssi [07:07] ATI Radeon 9200 PRo [07:07] goldfish: it's all about BitchX, ;) [07:07] goldfish, k [07:07] if you talk to me please same cody in the answer [07:07] Razor-X: noticed he versioned me, but i changed my ctcp version reply :) [07:08] goldfish: ;) [07:08] yeah, I also have CTCP cloaking === wulfepup [~wulfepup@204.111.32.94] has joined #ubuntu [07:08] never liked bitchx myself for some reason [07:08] i ought to take a creenshot [07:08] I tried BitchX first, but couldn't liken unto irssi [07:09] it's weird, tehy're almost identical but... [07:09] I just couldn't get a hang of irssi [07:09] i have a radeon 9200 [07:09] yeah.... [07:09] *they're === truckat [~kevin@pcp0010034696pcs.reding01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === desplesda [~desplesda@CPE-143-238-232-83.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [07:09] hey hi! [07:09] bob2, i can't seem to find that 32-bit i386 installing stuff in the wiki [07:09] ah, irssi is alot better i think... once u get used to it [07:09] of course, being the multitasking freak [07:09] br33zy: the chroot? oh well [07:09] I have 14 windows in this screen session of BitchX ;) [07:09] any of it actually [07:09] I have 3 other screen sessions as well [07:09] br33zy: if you care about binary proprietary junk, you're better off just running the i386 port, anyway [07:10] with IRC, anyways [07:10] Razor-X: lol, i have 14 too, just the one screen session though [07:10] bob2, how do I do that though? [07:10] br33zy: reinstall [07:10] bob2, how do i select the [07:10] oh [07:10] Razor-X: wow, alot of channels :) [07:10] goldfish: heh, yeah === Dashiva [~d@c-24-2-61-32.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:10] i can't pick the i386 versions of apps to install? === SlackFart [~el_fart0@soundscape.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu [07:10] br33zy: yes, by installing the i386 version of ubuntu [07:11] bob2, how come there is a section for 32bit libs here then and 32bit binaries etc? [07:11] br33zy: where? [07:11] bob2, hold u [07:11] /usr/lib32 [07:11] there's ia32-libs, which lets you run some 32-bit i386 programs [07:11] at least === ScislaC [~scislac@ip68-2-249-199.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:11] as above [07:11] and not mozilla? [07:11] it's a nasty hack until we have multi-arch, which would let you just install the i386 version of firefox on your machine [07:11] I don't know [07:11] What can i do to change the font in virtual terminal in Hoary. Because the fonts are to big. [07:12] you could try it [07:12] newbie: why not just use X? [07:12] just what is the difference between ext2 and ext3 ? I'm setting up for a dual boot on a pre-existing WinXp machine.... I'm getting ready to partition the HD... [07:12] newbie, its in the kernel boot options [07:12] if thats what you're supposed to call it [07:12] wulfepup: ext3 is basically the successor to ext2, just use it [07:12] how can do that? === Echylo [~echylo@84-179.245.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu [07:12] bob2: thanks! === iBuntu [~devDelay@cpe-24-166-4-36.indy.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [07:13] newbie, hold [07:13] i tried to search on forum but i can't find the right answer. [07:13] wulfepup, from my reading ext2 is for the boot partition not a good choice for main fs [07:13] son of a.... === nootrope [~nootrope@pool-68-239-114-234.res.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:14] ext3 is journaled, ext2 isn't [07:14] I just chown'ed ~ as root:root [07:14] I hate myself -_- [07:14] Dashiva: pssh, shut up Osan'Gar ;) [07:14] see [07:14] i picked this name when book 5 came out [07:14] i'm pre all that stoopid crap [07:14] XD [07:15] lol === ramblingturtle23 [~dude@c-67-185-73-183.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu [] [07:15] LoC was the best book, IMO === cody [~cody@2416455hfc38.tampabay.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu [] [07:15] eh maybe, anything before 7 === mpq [~mpq@c-24-22-133-235.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:15] tada http://kbpro.ro/screenshots/screenshot_june_8_2005.jpg [07:15] that last one wasn't fit to stop my door === Kamping_Kaiser [~kaiser@ppp214-18.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu === haffe [~haffe@c-3c0d70d5.07-5-6c6b7010.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu [07:15] Razor-X, at least you didn't chmod. I've had some fun figuring out what should be executable and what shouldn't before. [07:15] Razor-X what do u mean by LoC? [07:16] newbie, http://www.waltdnes.org/tips_and_tricks/textmodes.html [07:16] newbie: that was for Dashiva [07:16] newbie, http://www.8ung.at/spblinux/grub.htm [07:16] Ok [07:16] newbie, even better: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/326296 [07:16] buffbikedude: well, it auto-chmod's everything to 755 [07:17] My machine is running gentoo now, but I want to install ubuntu on it. However I have som emails that I want to save on the machine. Should I just copy the emails to a cd-r? === pinPoint [pinPoint@69-163-118-102.snbrca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:17] just dweebspeak, ignore us [07:17] since space is lacking ... (I have ~15G available for Linux, swap and a shared FAT32 (for file storage)) I was going to just have one partition for each of the three.. should I go to 4? === amonkey [~amonkey@cpe-67-10-78-251.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [07:17] haffe, it depends on what format they're in, but you can normally just copy the email database [07:17] Dashiva, kmail. [07:18] i'd google, i've never used kmail, but you should be able to just backup one file === leo_mx [~leo@200.94.147.50] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [07:18] Razor-X, ouch! === Daehlie_ [~daehlie@bc116121.bendcable.com] has joined #ubuntu [07:18] Razor-X, what command-line did you use? [07:18] how can i listen to a shoutcast stream? xmms doesn't seem to acknowledge it as audio and totem yells at me. === Daehlie_ is now known as Daehlie === cody [~cody@2416455hfc38.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [07:19] Breezy [07:20] hey i need help [07:20] heres my problem [07:20] amonkey, have you tried a different stream? [07:20] we have tryed everthing to get my ati to work right and nothing working [07:20] we installed ubuntu with my onboard video [07:20] then installed ati after [07:20] I tried to append VGA=773 on my menu.lst. But it does'nt load the GDM. I have ATI 9200 se card. [07:21] but works but we cant get the right drivers to work [07:21] so what do i do now [07:21] hello! anyone here used a Linksys wifi-G USB dongle w/Ubuntu? my Live CD installation won't recognize it. I suppose I have to do something else... [07:21] newbie, i dunno [07:21] newbie, does anything else work? [07:21] newbie, i dont use a VGA= at all [07:22] br33zy:what should i use then? [07:22] can someone help me [07:22] i was wondering if there was a way to get some of the updated metaverse packages from breezy while maintaining the base of hoary === cody [~cody@2416455hfc38.tampabay.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu [] [07:23] newbie, have you tried using nothing? === samurai is now known as samiam [07:23] Dashiva: look into /etc/apt/preferences [07:23] Dashiva, you can test but you surely have a lot of deps problems due to that [07:23] yeah [07:23] that's what i figured [07:23] nootrope: it might bejust cause you're using Live .. I have a Blitzz Super G that other people have gotten working .. but I can't get it to be recognized under the Live CD. [07:23] ablyss, i was trying the one off of 4chan (.pls), i assume it's good cuz everyone would yell if it wasn't [07:23] yes, It works but I dont like big fonts while loading ubuntu. [07:23] ok [07:24] that can be fixed [07:24] you can use setfont -v and then a font from /usr/share/consolefonts/ [07:24] find an appropriate one then make a nasty little hack [07:24] thanks wulfepup. i guess it would be superhuman to get a live cd to recognize every USB device out there. [07:25] do i have type setfont -v on term. [07:25] yes [07:25] but technically you can have a startup script that does it for you [07:25] heh [07:25] well first try it out and tell me if it works [07:25] ablyss, nm, you are right. seems to be down. oops. [07:25] it's safe to use telnet on my local connection right? I mean noone should be able to sniff my traffic when im behind a NAT, right? [07:25] another question then, just how unstable is breezy right now? === paulproteus [~paulprote@h-67-102-97-191.mclnva23.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:25] ablyss: telnet is baaaaaad [07:25] newbie, actually wait one second [07:26] goldfish, :( [07:26] mines pcmcia .... the driver set is atheros and I've talked to several people who have it working for them... So I'm just waiting on my Install CD to show up. [07:26] ablyss: what about ssh? [07:26] newbie, hmm i can't find setfont [07:26] i never tried ssh [07:26] apt-get install ssh? [07:27] ablyss: openssh-server [07:27] i think [07:27] newbie, there is the package kbd-compat [07:27] wulfepup: once i install the OS on my hd i'm sure it's just a matter of the right packages, etc. anyway, thanks for the info. [07:27] k... im trying [07:27] nootrope: No prob! === blew [~blew@stjh1-3204.nl.aliant.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:27] ablyss: ssh uses encyption [07:27] ablyss: telnet doesnt [07:27] newbie, lemme private message you [07:27] anyone know how to remove locals once they are installed? === tenshiKur0 [~tenshiKur@S0106000d93cb5211.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:28] kewl.. [07:28] *locales === fr500 [~andres@143.228.uio.satnet.net] has joined #ubuntu === nutorian [~nutorian@pool-71-101-118-53.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu === pepperpot [~pepper@216.59.239.208] has joined #ubuntu [07:29] ablyss: have you tried using aptitude for easy acquisition of apt-get packages? (or the gui that comes with Ubuntu) they make life a lot easier to find teh exact package you're looking for.... and you can even find cool stuff you didn't know you wanted. === blew [~blew@stjh1-3204.nl.aliant.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:29] wulfepup, whats up [07:29] hey hi fr500! === androxxl [~andro@BSN-77-113-85.dsl.siol.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:30] is aptitude good? synaptic rocks === pmazer [~pmazer@c-67-191-170-172.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:30] hello [07:30] aptitude is a command line version of it... [07:30] synaptic is a front end for it [07:30] later, wulfepup. cheers! === nootrope [~nootrope@pool-68-239-114-234.res.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [07:30] how do i install fonts which aren't from the package manager? [07:30] apt-get is the command line [07:30] of synaptic [07:30] i broke my ubuntu for some uni work with longhorn and can't recover it for a couple of days [07:30] yus === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu [07:30] ouch [07:31] hey goldfish.. i just made my first ssh connection [07:31] aptitude is a "graphical" command line version od synaptic... it tells you what is installed what's available, etc... [07:31] oh [07:31] wulfepup, werent you a noob at linux? [07:31] yeah [07:32] I know just enough to be dangerous.. but not enough to any good.. LOL [07:32] hehehe [07:32] :) [07:32] they never let me have root at my old job... [07:32] *pout* === brett [~brett@C1480098.wl148.flinders.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu [07:34] dammit, what does it mean if you turn off subpixel rendering in fonts prefs and it's still doing it? [07:35] Micksa, maybe it means you need to restart the X-server [07:35] done that === A[D] minS [~Whisky@196.204.208.25] has joined #ubuntu [07:35] restarted the whole computer even [07:35] well not as an attempt to fix this :) [07:35] but it's happened === gentl [~a@219.95.3.227] has joined #ubuntu === br33zy [~br33zy@cpe-66-27-118-223.san.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [07:35] I don't like the way subpixel looks [07:35] looks like a monitor with guns out of focus or something [07:36] also I don't need it, I have 145DPI 8) [07:36] (not that I mean to brag or anything) [07:37] how do i install fonts which aren't from the package manager? [07:37] what format are they in? [07:37] pcf or ttf [07:39] ah dammit === monchy [~monchy@S010600e04c400007.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu === ws007 [~ws007@202.95.135.254] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [07:39] i can download fluxbox debian package and install it in Ubuntu? [07:40] um, if that's all you have then you need to copy the files into some dir under /usr/share/X11/fonts and then run "mkfontdir" or "mkfontscale" or something [07:40] then restart X [07:40] A[D] minS: Why not use ubuntus pkgs? [07:40] I THINK [07:40] that's all I know [07:40] A[D] minS, there is flux in apt i think [07:40] Micksa, what format would be easiest? === nagesh [~nagesh@203.145.183.210] has joined #ubuntu [07:40] yeah, it's in universe, sudo apt-get install fluxbox [07:40] according to the channel list, ubuntu is third most popular distro after gentoo and debian === nxv_ [~nxv_@dsl-084-056-097-115.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:41] JessupX: worst indicator of popularity ever [07:41] hondje: sorry .. am new with ubnuntu ... where i can find mirrors for pakage ?... mdk user :) [07:41] hahaha [07:41] found it [07:41] thx [07:42] yeah, maybe thats number of people with problems ;) [07:42] apt-get remove telnetd ..... i like this ssh [07:42] A[D] minS: You use your package manager, in gnome it's under system -> admin -> synaptic [07:42] A[D] minS, www.ubuntuguide.org === thedaemon is now known as daemonsleepz [07:42] thx hondje fr500 :)... googling :) === DCG [~DCG@ip68-1-158-209.mc.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:43] uuuugh... wlan0: no such device === JessupX sighs [07:44] eth1? === mpm [~helio7@pool-71-102-148-75.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu [] [07:44] nope, nothin === ztonzy [~ztonzy@ztonzy.artist.blender] has joined #ubuntu === amonkey [~amonkey@cpe-67-10-78-251.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === lurah is now known as lurah|off [07:44] no eth0 [07:44] eth1 or wlan0 === ToutPT|ppc|fr [~toutpt@ANantes-151-1-63-36.w81-250.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu [07:44] JessupX: what does iwconfig tell you? [07:45] thats a different module.. i have to use prism2_usb [07:45] oh [07:45] sorry [07:45] wasnt paying attention :) [07:45] iwconfig says no wireless extentions === ce_cute [user8@202.95.150.231] has joined #ubuntu [07:46] JessupX: have you loaded the prism2_usb module? [07:46] yep... i configured /etc/wlan/wlan.conf [07:46] hmm === neon_ [~neon@201.128.110.253] has joined #ubuntu [07:46] i created wlancfg-XXXX (where xxx is the name of my network) === Daehlie_ [~daehlie@bc116121.bendcable.com] has joined #ubuntu === neon_ [~neon@201.128.110.253] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [07:47] i edited /etc/iftab === ChinaCatJones [~chris@pool-71-111-176-217.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:47] i edited /etc/network/interfaces [07:47] i dont know what else to do [07:47] hmmm === mattik_ [~mattik@line-3078.dsl.kpo.dnainternet.fi] has joined #ubuntu [07:47] ? === nalioth_wrkn is now known as nalioth [07:48] ? [07:48] JessupX: so it definitely shows up in 'lsmod' ? [07:48] ? [07:48] i followed these instructions [07:48] http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:SfWOOL4fhcgJ:www.mepislovers.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php%3Fviewmode%3Dflat%26topic_id%3D2589%26forum%3D21+prism2_usb+interfaces+example&hl=en [07:48] ce_cute: hello. [07:48] ? [07:48] hel....hello.....? === spiderworm [~spiderwor@ip68-3-31-10.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:48] there a guide for bootstrapping a kubuntu chroot install? [07:48] yep i see it there [07:48] along with [07:49] p80211 [07:49] and usbcore [07:49] ? [07:49] the light lights up [07:49] ? [07:49] ce_cute: what's with all the ??? [07:49] thats cute? [07:50] I think it's ugly [07:50] ? [07:50] ce_cute: STOP!! [07:50] thanks! [07:50] ce_cute writes down how many '?' he puts in a channel before they say stop === Tezkah [~Tezkah@d137-186-160-50.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:51] he has graphs and charts === wulfepup just puts folks like that on /ignore [07:51] he..he..? [07:51] err === petitohaime| [MTP@dyn-83-156-202-209.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #ubuntu [07:51] she [07:51] so? === omppa [~omppa@addr-213-139-178-202.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:51] there are many people that are very new to this whole chatting-over-the-internet thing [07:51] so they don't know the ettiquete [07:51] hehehe [07:51] then again [07:52] there are many people that are just assholes [07:52] yeah? [07:52] not so? [07:52] it doesnt really help my wlan problem [07:52] :( === spacey [~spacey@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #ubuntu [07:53] and now my info on my problem has scrolled off the screen [07:53] owell [07:53] So.. assuming I have 5 GB of HD spacehow should I spread it out for the Ubuntu install? [07:53] it wasnt gunna happen anyway [07:53] then? [07:53] wireless usb in LINUX?? [07:53] never! [07:53] wulfepup: only ubuntu? [07:54] wulfepup: you could go the easy route and putting 512MB for swap, rest for root === realrbman [~root@adsl-068-159-112-195.sip.gsp.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu === dupa_luva [~dupa_luva@S0106000ae65193ca.vs.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:55] Ubuntu and swap ... I have 10GB saved for a shared FAT32 partion... and too much in an existing WinXP... === dupa_luva [~dupa_luva@S0106000ae65193ca.vs.shawcable.net] has left #ubuntu [] [07:55] wulfepup: how much ram? [07:56] 512 [07:56] is there any way to turn off the row highlighting in nautilus? [07:56] ???????? [07:56] wulfepup, you need at least 512 swap too [07:56] ??????????? [07:56] ?????? [07:56] wulfepup: what DCG said [07:56] ce_cute, stop it... [07:56] usually its a good idea to have atleast as much swap as actual ram [07:56] ????????? [07:56] ??????????? [07:56] ????????? [07:56] ce_cute: please stop [07:56] ????????? [07:56] some ppl suggest up to 3x or 5x [07:56] ????????? [07:56] ???????????/ [07:56] ????????? [07:56] ??????????? [07:56] DCG only if you have a puny amount of machine [07:56] ????????? [07:56] ajmitch, can you please quiet him [07:56] and more is better? so maybe 1G swap and the rest as / ? [07:56] ???????????? [07:56] i guess i am gunna have to run cat5 [07:56] someone wanna ban ce_cute? [07:56] Seveas: sadly, yes === mode/#ubuntu [+o fabbione] by ChanServ [07:57] ce_cute: ? [07:57] wulfepup: 512 is great === mode/#ubuntu [+o crimsun] by ChanServ [07:57] yeah?????? === ChinaCatJones [~chris@pool-71-111-176-217.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:57] ce_cute: you're going to stop that, right? [07:57] ok, cool. [07:57] ce_cute your what, 14? [07:57] nalioth: i've seen people with 4GB of ram and a 8GB swap partition [07:57] ummmm?????????? [07:57] must be nice.. *sigh* [07:57] errrrrrrrrr??????// [07:57] 12? [07:57] DCG yes and what CPU? === hpnadig [~hpn@HPNadig.kn.wikipedia] has joined #ubuntu === mode/#ubuntu [+o bob2] by ChanServ [07:57] nalioth: power5 [07:58] DCG: well there ya go [07:58] DCG: that system can use that setup [07:58] the operators prepare.. [07:58] ????????????/ [07:58] or was it power4 [07:58] i forget [07:58] ce_cute: perhaps english isn't your native language, but you're being disruptive, so please stop using so many question marks [07:58] ?????????? === ce_cute [user8@202.95.150.231] has left #ubuntu [requested] [07:58] thanks bob2 === mode/#ubuntu [-o crimsun] by crimsun [07:58] Praise "Bob"! === edder [~fo@202.159.62.28] has joined #ubuntu === Mr_Smiley [~smiley@CPE-144-136-182-237.sa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu === monchy [~monchy@S010600e04c400007.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu === oferw [~chatzilla@DSL217-132-221-178.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu === thoreauputic [~prospero@wolax7-039.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [08:01] Ok.. so here's my curret plan.. how crazy/stupid/foolish am I? Take the 55G WinXP drive, shrink it as small as I can given current file storage, (roughly 40G used).. partition the left over into a 4.5G / ext2, a 512M swap, and 10G shared FAT32.... [08:01] what's a good ubuntu packaged app for watching dvds? [08:02] xine or ogle [08:02] both do menus afaik. [08:02] BROKEN_LADDER: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats [08:02] wulfepup: I'd suggest ext3, rather than ext2 [08:02] THEN...move as much of my mp3, docs, and other files to the shared [08:02] wulfepup: you'll have to have /home/ on /, then === KarlosII [~KarlosII@S0106000f3d5ae683.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #Ubuntu [08:02] then shrink the Win more and increase the / [08:02] ? === Pwn3r [~Pwn3r@d206-116-64-20.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:03] wulfepup: better idea. make 45gb fat32, leave 5gb just for winduhs (the stuff it HAS to have on the same partition) move all your program files to the fat32, and have 4.5 for linux and a half-gig swap [08:04] bob2: I'm still unsure of exactly what the various /foo are for, and why having them on different partitions of teh same drive is any better or worse than same partition. [08:05] wulfepup: set up yer linux to automount a shared folder from the fat32 into your homedir and your set === Zaphod_ [~Agrajag@66-215-172-61.sb-eres.charterpipeline.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:05] wulfepup: for a desktop, there's not much point splitting them up [08:05] nalioth: that would mean burning off a *lot* of cds or a lot of back and forth in the Partion Magic... [08:05] wulfepup: aside from /home, which is handy to have seperate in case you have to reinstall [08:05] bob2: ahhhh [08:06] wulfepup: but you can't have /home on fat32 [08:06] you can have /home on /, tho, and symlink /home/you/docs/ to the fat32 disk === dell500 [~dell500@southcity-24.107.176.142.charter-stl.com] has joined #ubuntu [08:06] wulfepup: hence having the shared fat32 folder in your homedir [08:06] Do all of these partitions have to be "primary"? === grunde [~grunde@pat-gw.osl.fast.no] has joined #ubuntu [08:06] wulfepup: nope [08:07] wulfepup: no [08:07] wulfepup: windows pukes on disks with more than 4 primarys partitions, tho [08:07] iirc [08:07] *sigh* [08:07] windows pukes. point. [08:07] bob2 mebbe we can wean him off of winduhs [08:07] ;) === edder [~fo@202.159.62.28] has joined #ubuntu === d1m4n [~diman@69.88.24.195] has joined #ubuntu [08:08] I'm working on it... but I'm just not ready yet.... [08:08] wulfepup, take you time [08:08] wulfepup: we will be here for any ???s you might have [08:08] I've gotten quite set in my ways these past 20 some odd years === daily6__ [user8@202.95.150.231] has joined #ubuntu === blew_ [~blew@stjh1-1720.nl.aliant.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:08] It all started back in the day witha TRS-80 Model 4 === markmondaytuesda [~mark@d142-173-103-112.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:09] *sigh* TRS-Dos and Basic [08:09] oh yeah well BeOS is making a come back === k4rp0r [~k4rp0r@dsl-hkigw10i1c.dial.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu === chrchr [~rc@sub21-110.member.dsl-only.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:09] come back? where they ever there? ;) [08:10] beos was the best OS evar [08:10] evar! [08:10] BeOS IS the best OS ever [08:10] im using vncserver and recently my keymap in the vnc viewer is messed up [08:10] haha [08:10] better then amega? [08:10] then I moved up to an IBM-clone running Win 1 or some such and I've been a member of teh Bill-of-Borg collective ever since. [08:10] amiga is the greatest [08:10] well, if i could get it to work on my athlon it would move to the present tense [08:10] BeOS _was_ the best OS. [08:10] wulfepup: freedom is very close [08:10] BROKEN_LADDER, yeah, but that's way in the past [08:10] But it hasn't been able to run on modern hardware for 5 years. [08:10] Dashiva: yeah... I was hoping Zeta would be able to support my laptop's weird graphics card... too bad [08:10] i have a question regarding alsa if anyone here wants to help... [08:10] yeah [08:11] yellowtab.com [08:11] plus zeta's like eleventybillion dollars [08:11] linux has caught up to beos in many respects. [08:11] Zeta is uber expensive. [08:11] why buy Zeta when you can run Linux for free? [08:11] i've literally tried every athlon/p4 patch to make it run, no dice [08:11] So, hey, the Windows Start menu is nice and keyboard navigable. Hit Win, followed by the first letter of the submenu you want to open, etc. [08:11] Does GNOME Panel do anything like that? [08:11] well, that's the point, ubuntu is merely a stop on the road to Haiku [08:11] alt+f1 is the default shortcut, I think [08:11] icewm has a nicer keyboard thing [08:11] chrchr: if you want it to. the default keybinding is alt-f1. [08:11] the only thing i still want from beos is the Tracker. [08:12] Tracker kicked Nautilus's ass. [08:12] Tezkah: Yes, but you can't navigate the menu after that. [08:12] BFS was also pretty awesome, wasn't it? === ryan__ [~ryan@c210-49-109-41.frank1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [08:12] chrchr: yeah, I don't know then [08:12] BROKEN_LADDER: you know that xffm is "da bomb"! heh heheh [08:12] so, why is Ubuntu better than vanilla Debian? === johan_ [~johan@HSE-Montreal-ppp345286.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu === ice_1963 [~gary@pcp08931646pcs.brghtn01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:12] wulfepup: try it and see === jorgp [~jorgp@bnet-dial2-224.bartnet.net] has left #ubuntu ["Konversation] [08:12] wulfepup: user friendlyness [08:12] (just looking for opinions, not a flame war) [08:12] wulfepup: Ubuntu is Debian Unstable made Stable every 6 months [08:13] xffm? [08:13] basically just an awesome up to date version of Debian [08:13] or is that "help channel friendliness"? [08:13] Ubuntu is debian with 75% less elitists [08:13] hey i fit right in then [08:13] BROKEN_LADDER: xfce file mangler [08:13] Dashiva: hahah - nice one :) === mode/#ubuntu [-o bob2] by bob2 [08:13] BROKEN_LADDER: was a very bad joke [08:13] Dashiva: and 90% less skillful developers [08:13] is there a gentoo portage equivalent to for ubuntu [08:13] I have to admit that I've enjoyed my Ubuntu Live more than my coLinux Debian... [08:13] er, in number, not skill [08:13] markmondaytuesda: er, apt? [08:13] yeah, but they do a good enough job [08:13] bob2: we still have skill.. [08:14] ajmitch: sure, but there's only 1/10th as many of you :) [08:14] debian is like a thousand people tripping over eachother [08:14] bob2: 1/100 for universe [08:14] ajmitch: hmmm, right [08:14] wulfepup: i been using linux over 5 years and its easily the most user friendly distro i've used [08:14] i still have two working beos partitions on this system... wouldn't have it any other way [08:14] although we're up to > 20 now [08:14] ajmitch: I'm atill amazed at how much you guys get done === Tezkah sleeps [08:14] "MOTU: Sleep is for the weak." [08:14] simple, we don't have as much politics to deal with :) [08:14] I want to gripe about GNOME panel navigation some more. [08:15] chrchr: you're welcome to file a bug if no one else has === goldfish was in #gentoo and someone came in saying the guys in #debian told him to join gentoo chanell to get a how-to on apt-build [08:15] it does seem like an odd ommission [08:15] If GNOME were Windows, I could hit "Alt-F1" and then hit "G" and the "Games" submenu would open. [08:15] goldfish: I doubt that [08:15] Then, I could hit "B" and the Blackjack game would launch. [08:15] goldfish: if the debian guys told you to join #gentoo... they were probably joking [08:15] goldfish: it was probably more like "if you're going to insist on compiling things for no reason, why don't you just go to #gentoo?" [08:15] i just tried xffm and it sucks. [08:16] It was a joke :) [08:16] terrible! [08:16] but he joined [08:16] oh! [08:16] chrchr whats your point [08:16] misread [08:16] bob2: I've been puzzling about this for awhile. It seems like they must have *decided* not to make it work like the Windows Start menu, and I'm wondering why. [08:16] bob2: aye, most likely. [08:16] BROKEN_LADDER: XFFM sucks, use DFM ;) [08:16] BROKEN_LADDER: hence me saying it was a joke [08:16] no..i'm done trying file managers. [08:16] I might have to go over to Kubuntu though .... I'm not crazy about Gnome either.. KDE seemed like it had more packages and was more intuitive for a Win user... [08:16] BROKEN_LADDER: just learn your shell and learn it well [08:16] nautilus would be good if i could get rid of those highlight bars. [08:16] wulfepup: it is [08:16] johan_: That there's a simple thing Windows does with menus that makes them much more powerful than the GNOME panel. === pointwood [~pointwood@212.242.222.232] has joined #ubuntu [08:16] bob2 shell always will have disadvantages to gui file managers. [08:17] powerful? [08:17] and advantagers [08:17] thankyouverymuch :) [08:17] bob2 when people suggest completely replacing a file manager with a shell, i suspect they are unrealistic zealots. [08:17] BROKEN_LADDER: in some situations, yes. just like gui file manages will always be crap for many tasks. === SnoJack [~ActualMan@gw6.rapidwave.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:17] BROKEN_LADDER: have you tried "mc"? [08:17] gnome is made to be pretty not powerful [08:17] shell is one of the best things about Linux [08:17] bob2: beatya [08:17] bob2 for quickly dropping a whole slew of songs into a play list, gui rules. [08:17] BROKEN_LADDER: ok! [08:17] can someone help me with dchroot? i'm getting an error dchroot: chdir: No such file or directory [08:17] johan_: in what ways is it not powerful? [08:17] johan_ that's greatly oversimplistic. [08:17] DCG: that probably means your /etc/dchroot.conf is incorrect [08:18] the power of shell is second biggest reason I'm looking at making the switch.... stability and Bill Gates are tied for the biggest reasons.. LOL [08:18] define powerful [08:18] oooer [08:18] gnome is functional and minimalistic, especially compared to kde. [08:18] gee, this whole gui vs cmdline debate has never been done before [08:18] BROKEN_LADDER: hmm.... mpg321 * in a dir of mp3 s is pretty easy ... === monchy [~monchy@S010600e04c400007.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:18] Does the KDE panel thing do this keyboard nav. thing I'm describing? [08:18] bob2: "hoary /mnt/i386" is the only line there, and my chroot is /mnt/i386 === Amaranth [~travis@ip68-229-188-97.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:19] chrchr: dunno.... never tried... hang on a sec.. [08:19] Some people like KDE, some like Gnome, some like XFce, some like Flux....who cares? :p === DataCaliber [dale@68.205.13.116] has joined #ubuntu [08:19] DCG: does "sudo chroot /mnt/i386/ /bin/bash" work? "sudo dchroot"? [08:19] right hondje [08:19] hondje: I'm offended you didn't mention icewm :P [08:19] Tezkah: heh [08:19] afterstep [08:19] twm [08:20] the only real WM is GNU Screen [08:20] thoreauputic what if you don't want to play the directory?1 [08:20] bob2: yes, chroot itself works, and dchroot by itself works, but not -d [08:20] DCG: does your shell exist in the chroot? [08:20] thoreauputic how about adding or removing files on the fly? [08:20] yes, i'm using bash in both [08:21] DCG: guess you've set an environment variable that something in the chroot doesn't like [08:21] BROKEN_LADDER: fg ; ctrl-c ; ctrl -z ; bg [08:21] if people are going to debate gui vs cli, can we get vi vs emacs going too? [08:21] no [08:21] bob2: figured it out, dchroot -d doesnt work if you are root. [08:21] :( [08:21] phew, got internet back [08:22] sitting here with no internet access to distract me from working on smeg was scary [08:22] scary == easter eggs? :) [08:22] Tezkah: all hail gnu screen [08:22] chrchr: it did not for me... [08:22] screen rox [08:22] i, uh, broke my translators [08:22] err, translations [08:23] i made translation compilation automatic (compile .po to .mo), added lots of checks to make smeg work on other distros, and added enough new strings to make my translations nearly worthless [08:23] i am trying to update repositories [08:23] Amaranth: how's smeg going? [08:23] it works i have multi and universe [08:23] but I got this error [08:24] ajmitch: rolling along, need someone to review 0.7.5 and upload it to universe (*hint*) === Fuzmo [~X@CPE0090967b4ae3-CM001225009118.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu === goli [~sunil@203.145.183.210] has joined #ubuntu [08:24] root@ubuntu:/home/nate # sudo apt-get install w32codecs [08:24] E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily u navailable) [08:24] E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is anothe r process using it? [08:24] Amaranth: alright :) [08:24] ajmitch: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUToReview [08:24] iBuntu: check & see if synaptic or apt-get is running elsewhere [08:24] iBuntu: do you have symantic open? [08:24] iBuntu: you have to be root or have another apt open [08:24] update-manager could be running [08:25] it runs once a day to see if any updates are available [08:25] from what i can tell he's arleady logged in as root, so no need to type sudo [08:25] how come people /msg in this channel [08:26] hmmm [08:26] ok, that was stupid mistake === DataCalib [asdas@68.205.13.116] has joined #ubuntu [08:26] Because they're are a lot of newbies unfamiliar w/ IRC, I guess [08:26] but now I dont know what to get in order to play my movies [08:26] what do you mean? [08:26] tried w43codecs [08:27] why people from windows use ubuntu [08:27] a projector? [08:27] chrchr: KDE accepts the Windows key, but does nothing with any further keystrokes.... just like teh Gnome.. sorry. [08:27] johan_: I guess they heard it was an easy way to try Linux [08:27] johan_: to move up and out of teh oppresion of Bill of Borg. === it4ngo [~redactech@203.162.72.43] has joined #ubuntu [08:28] i use ppc === SnoJack [~ActualMan@gw6.rapidwave.net] has joined #ubuntu === lonur_ [~kham@adsl-69-211-94-190.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu === Funzo [~X@CPE0090967b4ae3-CM001225009118.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu === it4ngo [~redactech@203.162.72.43] has left #ubuntu [] === SirMud [~mud@ip70-179-233-79.dl.dl.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:28] so I'm already resisting from idiocy [08:28] Bill of Borg! === _mage_work is now known as _mage_afk [08:28] iBuntu: then w32codecs won't work for you [08:29] hehe [08:29] why? === Pumpkin_RJ [~marcos@201.5.199.247] has joined #ubuntu [08:29] should it be in the multiverse? [08:29] iBuntu: because they only work on x86 hardware [08:30] i am just try apt-get [08:30] oh ic === DataCaliber [dale@68.205.13.116] has left #ubuntu [] [08:30] Hey guys, I think I'm cutting out for the night, thanks for the help! and wish me luck on my Interview @ Lockheed Martin Thursday... [08:30] wulfepup: you go get 'em [08:30] good luck [08:30] :) [08:30] iBuntu: if you dual boot you can run mac-on-linux and play movies that way... [08:30] wulfepup: send us kewl pix of the robot planes [08:31] no [08:31] i refuse to use os x on 333mhz [08:31] iBuntu: i don't blame ya [08:31] iBuntu: ah, yes that would be a pain indeed [08:31] tiger pwns everything but even os 10.1 on this laptop sux balls === _bt [~bt@monkeytronics.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [08:31] Just wait two years, then you can use w32codecs ;-) [08:31] hondje: heh [08:31] maybe sooner than 2 years [08:31] os x runs on x86 [08:32] yea [08:32] and apple is supposedly moving to intel [08:32] well time for sleep [08:32] y'all be good [08:32] if you are a lucky adc member you can get osx/intel in 2 weeks [08:32] iBuntu: I think that was the point... [08:32] there's pics of osx on intel hardware [08:32] i am, sweet! [08:32] how do you get the version of fglrx/ati drivers currently installed?? [08:32] DCG ya don't have to be lucky, just have money [08:32] heh === nalioth [~Apple@cpe-66-25-43-80.houston.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu [] [08:33] sirmud: url? [08:33] saw it on digg [08:33] it'll be on slashdot in a day or two [08:34] whats the best ppc video player, or how do i get codecs for xvid, mov etc [08:34] they say they had osx on x86 for 2 years now [08:34] http://www.digg.com/apple === bcroq [~bertrand@sud35-1-82-67-113-39.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu === Zaphod_ is now known as Agrajag [08:35] vlc should have a ppc version, it'll play all of em [08:35] SirMud: not without the codecs [08:35] mplayer plays .mov files for me [08:35] ok, i got that, someone suggested earlier today [08:36] you simply won't be able to use the binary only codecs, ffmpeg and faad/faac and friends should work just fine === DataCalib is now known as DataCaliber === discman [~discman@host81-138-56-29.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ubuntu === pitti [~pitti@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #ubuntu [08:36] i copied my win32 codecs of my windows partition to my mplayer directory === SirMud is now known as DentArthurDent [08:37] seemed to work [08:37] it's quite rare these days to find a movie you can't play without closed source codecs [08:37] ablyss: yes, but he's on PPC :) [08:37] TMM: 'patented' [08:37] wow.. that's a tough one [08:37] there's a few codecs which have source implementations that aren't strictly legal to use [08:37] pff 'patented' ffmpeg guys don't care about that :) === nutorian [~nutorian@pool-71-101-118-53.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu === disasm [disirc@69-162-7-12.stcgpa.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu === paulproteus [~paulprote@h-67-102-97-191.mclnva23.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:39] mplayer only seems to have codecs for real8 and xanim for ppc [08:40] where codecs = "illegally distributed binary proprietary libraries", eys [08:40] it can play bajillions of other formats using proper codecs [08:40] Why is linux better than windows? just out of curriousity [08:41] Why is chocolate better than vanilla? [08:41] its not === _Church_of_Foamy [~shane@24-177-160-171.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [08:41] :\ [08:41] hehe [08:41] nutorian: better security, no gay viruses all the time [08:41] linux is made with love [08:41] oooooooooh [08:41] nutorian: more control over hardware and things [08:41] nice answer [08:41] and penguins [08:42] nutorian: it's not better [08:42] it's a thinking man's OS [08:42] nutorian: the fact that it isn't made by greedy unprincipled monopolists? [08:42] and probaly a panda or two [08:42] it's different and lots of people like it === ChinaCatJones [~chris@pool-71-111-176-217.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:42] DentArthurDent, some snake [08:42] you dont have to erase Temp & temporary internet files everytime you browse pr0n on linux [08:43] I should write this stuff down [08:43] nutorian: is this a serious question? [08:43] if i had a nickel for everytime i said i should write that down, i'd have like....$1.65 [08:43] anyone here know anything about sound/ [08:44] relatively [08:44] i know mine doesn't work in firefox-flash [08:44] it's a air movement [08:44] vibrations and all that [08:44] ask in #physics [08:44] mine doesnt work period [08:44] nutorian: it's a free protocol that works wirelessly without digital encoding... [08:44] lol [08:44] no automatic process suspension [08:44] Is there a way to disable the "recent files" lists? === _Church_of_Foamy [~shane@24-177-160-171.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [08:45] memory buffer overflows [08:45] never open any files? === jahor [jahor@wrt.sh.cvut.cz] has joined #ubuntu [08:45] ntfs === flodine [~flodine@c-24-4-174-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:45] DentArthurDent: Ha ha [08:45] cant' run 16-bit windows application [08:45] what are programs I can use to configure my sound/drivers [08:45] ibuntu: what 16bit windows app you wanna run? === golanx [~golan@host228-84.pool8173.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu === DagaZ [~rolle@h34n1fls35o858.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu [08:46] did ya try system->preferences->sound nutorian? [08:46] pds ledger [08:47] not alot o options, but could be something simple [08:47] its an accounting program [08:47] i think its just a corupted system folder tho [08:47] lol [08:47] which leads to another exampleof whywindows sux [08:47] nutorian: also check your mixer and see if any channels need to be unmuted (seriously) [08:48] granted i don't use accounting programs, but i'd think there would be a good one out by now for linux [08:48] im sure someone can come up with a suggestion === Mirzabah [user@dsl-202-173-182-50.vic.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [08:49] How do you whisper in the channel? [08:49] whisper? === liable [~linux@dialup-231.121.221.203.acc02-apli-cai.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [08:49] talk to an induvidual [08:49] DentArthurDent: uhm, theres one for gnome [08:49] just use a police size smaller :) [08:49] DentArthurDent: if you are just talking spreadsheets === hyapadi [~hyapadi@203.128.85.17] has joined #ubuntu [08:49] nutorian: /msg name message [08:50] im sure there is dcg, i don't use em, they're icky...openoffice has a spreadsheet [08:50] general ledger != spreadsheet [08:50] gnumeric [08:50] me != accountant [08:50] lol [08:50] hondje: thanks, thats what i was thinkin of [08:50] unfortunately googling for "linux GL" is going to pull up opengl stuff === Mirzabah [user@dsl-202-173-182-50.vic.westnet.com.au] has left #ubuntu [] [08:52] is it just me, or does mldonkey kinda suxor [08:52] there an easy way to get a macos style tasklisk for kde? [08:52] kinda? [08:52] vlc just gave me some errors [08:52] kinda is being nice [08:52] i downloaded everything for it tho [08:53] DCG [08:53] use gnome [08:53] holdon...mac style....kde.....brain exploding [08:53] but there is a theme thats kinda like macos === sproingie sees linuxledgers.com. $40 or $295 for source license === ChinaCatJones [~chris@pool-71-111-176-217.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:54] iBuntu: i would, but i just went through installing kde and getting compositing going, i've got baghira going nice right now, but i'm just a tiny bit annoyed that i've not figured out how to get a drop down tasklist menu [08:54] sql-ledger.org looks pretty powerful [08:54] iBuntu: http://www.consolevision.com/members/dcgrendel/snapshot2.jpg (~260kb 1600x1200 desktop with translucent windows and baghira) [08:55] can anyone reccomend a p2p app that doesn't suck like mldonkey [08:55] sftpd [08:55] linuxdc++ === n4z4 [~n4z4@131.114.240.5] has joined #ubuntu [08:56] DentArthurDent: limewire? amule? [08:56] Hi all! [08:56] dc++ [08:56] gtk-gnutella [08:56] is there a way to use anything else besides f12 for right click? [08:56] got limewire, works ok but runs slow due to java [08:56] couldn't get amule to work [08:56] iBuntu: you can change which key it is [08:57] anyone know if is possible install ubuntu in an old 486 with nodesktop?? [08:57] n4z4: how much ram does it have? [08:57] you'd prolly wanna go with damn small linux [08:57] 16/24mb [08:57] n4z4: that won't be very fun [08:57] mmm [08:58] n4z4: but if you leave your sources.list pointing at main only, it'll work === shale [~shale@2-18-237-24.gci.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:58] but take a long time [08:58] nice pic DCG [08:58] hell, if you're goin for fun, put fedora core on it === topyli [~juha@dsl-hkigw3pa5.dial.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu [08:58] i'll try === Miserable [~Miserable@206-248-135-74.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #Ubuntu [08:58] now i look small linux thanks DentArthurDent [08:59] anyone here running ati 64-bit drivers with hoary64 on amd64 ? [08:59] iBuntu: would you believe i just installed kubuntu this morning? [08:59] DentArthurDent: what use is that.. fedoras installer wouldn't even bother to start [08:59] im gonna try sometime to get my ol 386 runnin linux [08:59] how do i make a vnc server of gnome in ubuntu? [08:59] last i used redhat it had a console install [08:59] i need to built a system for my grandmother [08:59] DentArthurDent: 386 is harder [08:59] markmondaytuesda: you can add xvnc to gdm.conf [09:00] DCG: xcompmgr transset? [09:00] what distro and system would you recommend === darmou [~darmou@CPE-144-131-13-89.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [09:00] DentArthurDent: since modern distributions won't run on it at all (the C++ standard library requires >= 486) [09:00] goldfish: kde 3.4 composite manager support, baghira 0.6f [09:00] i mean cpu, mobo,card and distro so that it is rock solid [09:00] nice === flodine [~flodine@c-24-4-174-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:00] Having a bit of a problem, wonder if anyone can help: I'm setting up a udev rule for my external USB hard drive, but all I get in my logs is a message that a configured rule matched and 'sda' was ignored; no devices show up (although it should set NAME="%k" and SYMLINK="usbhd%n"). The exact same rule works fine on my Gentoo box. [09:01] yes i would [09:01] DentArthurDent: and you use fedoa for your old pc? [09:01] i just installed ubuntu on ppc last night [09:01] n4z4: lol, no i can't even put it on my new box [09:01] ah ok [09:01] this is the 2nd install on this laptop cuz i had to repartion to get rid of mac osx [09:01] ok bye bye === DataCaliber [asdas@68.205.13.116] has joined #ubuntu [09:01] johan_: the slowers machine I have been happy running ubuntu on is a P3 450 with 128 mb ram === n4z4 [~n4z4@131.114.240.5] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [09:01] goldfish: only probs i've had is with glx and xv, dragging an overlay window off screen causes nvidia's drivers to crash, and overlays are always-on-top also some occasional probs that backingstore could probably fix === shawarma [~sh@193.108.190.103] has joined #ubuntu [09:02] Miserable, did the /dev/sdax existe when you connect your usb drive ? [09:02] johan_: i bought this 1ghz p3 on ebay for $75 loaded [09:02] thats good [09:02] haven't had a single problem with ubuntu or knoppix on it [09:02] DCG: :/ [09:02] lok: Prior to connecting it, of course, it did not. When I connect it, the nodes are created -unless- I create my custom rule, in which case they are not. === ChinaCatJones [~chris@pool-71-111-176-217.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu === bob_ [~bob@67-51-131-173.dsl1.elk.ca.frontiernet.net] has joined #ubuntu === hondje [~hondje@c-67-174-186-96.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [09:04] if you're gonna go new pc, go ibm johan_ === FireEgl [Triton@2001:5c0:8fff:fffe:0:0:0:146f] has joined #Ubuntu [09:04] does anyone know a place to get CREATIVE SB LIVE! 24BIT 7.1 VARPAK drivers? === stefan_dk [~stefan@0x535d66ea.boanxx16.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu [09:05] google? === saibear [~saibear@12-210-245-57.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu [09:05] i'll do === junior__ [~mmcgirr@personaltelco.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:05] only prob with ibm is they're freakin expensive [09:05] hey all i am useing kubuntu and am haveing all kinds of trouble [09:05] acer works good too [09:06] can any one help [09:06] saibear: #kubuntu might be a better place to ask [09:06] thats probaly the funniest thing ive ever heard dagaZ === FLeiXiuS [~Nick@pcp0011094024pcs.essex01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:06] Miserable, I don't see why this not works sorry, maybe a change between the two version of udev in gentoo and hoary [09:06] DentArthurDent: why? [09:06] well i [09:07] anyone here running ati 64-bit drivers with hoary64 on amd64 ? === holycow [~a@S0106000fb51e6051.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:07] past experiences with acers and windows 95 [09:07] shale: probably easier to just ask your question [09:07] that is my question [09:07] hi holycow :) [09:08] DentArthurDent: ok.. I have been selling loads of them at the store without any problems [09:08] shale: "yes, lots of people are" [09:08] hey :) [09:08] in us? i haven't seen an acer in a long time [09:08] well every time i go to download something and install it i get gtk or gcc is not there [09:08] vlc says cant set locale to ". [09:08] huh? [09:08] and i know there therre i instaled them [09:08] ibuntu: are you playing a dvd? [09:08] shale if you succed tell me [09:09] DentArthurDent: there is a world outside US ;-) Sweden here [09:09] saibear: so, you need to install them [09:09] i just launched the program [09:09] i got a hard time with the drivers from ati [09:09] me too [09:09] saibear: sudo aptitude install build-essential libgtk2.0-dev [09:09] saibear: but what are yo utrying to compile? [09:09] i've followed a few different "how tos" but none have worked for me [09:09] limewire [09:09] same here === Garathor [~Unknown@213-145-178-167.dd.nextgentel.com] has joined #Ubuntu [09:10] and xmms [09:10] i've never actually met anyone who is running 3d successfully with ati+hoary64+amd64 [09:10] saibear: er, yo udon't compile limewire === dr_willis [~willis@12-222-71-130.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu [09:10] saibear: xmms is in ubuntu rleady, wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto; enable the universe repository === spacey [~spacey@145.33.144.124] has joined #ubuntu [09:10] i'm running 3d in nvidia+hoary64+amd64 [09:10] xmms dont work in kubuntu [09:10] yes i've read nvidia works [09:10] Hmm... [09:10] shale: yes, it does [09:10] i have an ati x850xt :) [09:11] or mine i am useing an hp dv1000 laptop [09:11] bob: what does? [09:11] saibear: yes xmms does. i've been using it all day [09:11] acer hasn't really been too hot in the us for a long time, they were better then most similiarly priced systems in the day...i guess windows makes everything seem suckier doesn't it [09:11] i also tried to open a movie using vlc and it said it had problems adding the application [09:11] shale: xmms works perfectly on kubuntu [09:11] i wasn't talking about xmms or kubuntu :) [09:12] bob2: you wanted saibear [09:12] not on mine hehe that is why i was trying to fix itg === chrchr [~rc@sub21-110.member.dsl-only.net] has left #ubuntu [] === BockBilbo [~Bock@85.84.43.70] has joined #ubuntu [09:12] right [09:12] saibear: then explain to us how it isn't working [09:12] saibear: does the dpkg install ok or does xmms itself crash? === uggwar [~cs@cm-84.118.142.115.chello.no] has joined #ubuntu [09:13] well when i go to load anything with it any mp3 it tells me it is not there === adam__ [~adam@ip24-251-109-39.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu === foxiness [~nayif@84.22.248.14] has joined #ubuntu === aethyr [~aethyr@dyn006639-twr2-student.cpmc.columbia.edu] has joined #ubuntu [09:13] well i went and installed it and then i get gcc or gtk is not there [09:13] saibear: that's too vague. you run xmms, and then add a file to it's playlist and click play. what happens? === nern [~nern@cable4-43.murray-ky.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:13] hey [09:13] it will pull up and frezze and then cloes and i have tgo go and do it all over agin [09:14] saibear: run xmms from a terminal and see if it outputs any errors [09:14] that's what happens to me when esd is messing up [09:14] not just pull it up but reinstall it [09:14] saibear: so, did you configure it to use arts as the output plugin? [09:14] shale: they have official drivers at ati but i cant get them to work === Jormundgand is now known as Jormundgand[exam [09:14] johan diddo [09:14] refused by server [09:14] saibear: I don't understand what "not just pull it up but reinstall it" means [09:14] xlib === Jormundgand[exam is now known as Jor[exams] === Burgundavia [~corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:14] diddo? [09:15] diddo means "same for me" [09:15] i tried the ati drivers, as well as the deb package and neither worked [09:15] i see [09:15] i think it is "ditto" :) [09:15] it's "dirro" [09:15] er, ditto [09:15] hehe === karaffb [~karaffb@12-217-251-131.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu [09:15] no its diddo [09:15] and i thought i was a grammar nazi [09:15] dildo [09:15] I don't think I've ever seen it spelt with d's [09:15] lol [09:15] hi , if i use # tar cvpfz backup.tgz /mnt/windows , than that will include /mnt/windows on tar file how-can i exclude it ? [09:15] i have to go to the package managar and start over [09:16] yes thats cuz everyone is dumb but it is two d's :) [09:16] hahhaha [09:16] i'm just freakin sure of it! [09:16] ehhh... no, it's from the Latin term, "Dictum" ... [09:16] and italian, "Detto" [09:16] i still dont know if i'll keep this ubuntu 64 [09:16] shale: http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=ditto&word2=diddo [09:16] ;p [09:16] foxiness: cd to /mnt/windows before running it [09:17] its the only 64 i tried might go for ... [09:17] XLIB: connection to ':0.)' refused by server === edder [~fo@202.159.62.28] has joined #ubuntu [09:17] winXP64 is smokin on my 3800 === yure [~yure@dhcp-212-235-229-194.sd.uni-lj.si] has joined #ubuntu [09:17] that is what happens [09:17] Hey all, how do you turn on surround sound support in Ubuntu? [09:17] where you got that shale [09:17] johan_: i'd recommend waiting a bit more for 64bit support [09:18] bob thanks for the nifty link :) [09:18] saibear: wtf [09:18] saibear: you are not getting that from running xmms [09:18] johan_ i bought the corporate edition for the agency i manage [09:18] bob2: what would you reccomend for CLI Media playing? [09:18] yeah i am i dont understand why [09:18] Hackmo: in your mixer app goto the last tab and enable "mirror front to surround" or something like that [09:18] bob2, but if i dont have free space on this partiton and i want create it on /media/backup ? [09:18] Razor-X: I like cplay [09:18] mmmkay [09:18] DGC: thanks [09:18] i am new to all this but i am not dumb hehe i really dont know why that is comeing up [09:18] foxiness: cd /mnt/windows ; tar -cvf /media/backup/blah.tar [09:18] Hackmo: what card you got? [09:18] saibear: so, open a terminal [09:18] DentArthurDent, you know anyone whos gotten the ati64 drivers to work? [09:19] most everyone else says just wait for breezy === vIkSiT [~Viksit@61.95.197.201] has joined #ubuntu [09:19] or is it breazy? ;) [09:19] saibear: actually, don't even do that [09:19] that is what i get in terminal [09:19] saibear: stop running things as root [09:19] shale: all i hear is ppl having problems === uggwar [~cs@cm-84.118.142.115.chello.no] has joined #ubuntu [09:19] yea [09:19] DGC:I don't have a soundcard it's onboard sound [09:20] makes me wish i'd spent that $500 on an nvidia card instead of the x850xt but oh well i guess patience is a virtue === ryuzaki [~ryuzaki@TruPPPv92-230-159.inet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu [09:20] Hackmo: onboard 5.1/7.1 setups dont have the best drivers, the side outputs and center/lfe dont work on my a8n-sli had to attach side speakers to line-in and center/lfe to mic and enable both those options, and my rear speakers still on rear out [09:20] shale: ATI's linux support isn't the greatest [09:21] DGC: hm that kinda sucks I might invest in a cheap soundcard, thanks for the help [09:21] yea i'm learning that nowadays :) [09:21] bob2, after the tar finish extract the file output this : tar: mnt/windows: implausibly old time stamp 1970-01-01 03:00:00 [09:21] foxiness: ok === GNAM [~GNAM@natpool-1-16.pd.astro.it] has joined #ubuntu [09:22] Hackmo: yea, or an external 5.1 decoder and use the spdif out of your motherboard. [09:22] you guys know a 'stable' browser for 64 [09:22] hehe i've been using lynx ;) [09:22] johan_: firefox works, but some binary-only plugins arnt available [09:22] lynx? [09:23] yahp [09:23] johan_ or use links2/hacked-links [09:23] cuz i got no gui in 64 [09:23] lol, gotta love good ol linx [09:23] shale: you tried links2? [09:23] wtf am i the worst speller in the world or what [09:23] DCG, no [09:23] is it text? [09:24] yes and no :) [09:24] it supports running in a console [09:24] sounds groovy ;) [09:24] but it also is a minimal X browser with gfx support [09:24] ahh. lynx and pine were my first internet suite :) [09:24] no, i hold that title along with head grammar nazi and CheezWhiz Gourmet === JessupX [~jessupx@cpe-67-49-30-70.socal.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu [] [09:24] topyli, me too... pine was my first email client === pablo928 [~paul@az-yuma-cuda1x-159.losaca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu === pablo928 [~paul@az-yuma-cuda1x-159.losaca.adelphia.net] has left #ubuntu [] === pablo928 [~paul@az-yuma-cuda1x-159.losaca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu === pablo928 [~paul@az-yuma-cuda1x-159.losaca.adelphia.net] has left #ubuntu [] === pablo928 [~paul@az-yuma-cuda1x-159.losaca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu === stimpie [~stimpie@dslam240-147-172-82.dyndsl.versatel.nl] has joined #ubuntu === pvanhoof [~pvanhoof@cvs.maia-scientific.com] has joined #ubuntu [09:25] bob2, coz i'm create the tar file what is already include /mnt/windows/blahblah , than now what i need is it ; mv /mnt/windows/* /mnt/windows-xp ? [09:25] saibear: there any specific reason you tried to dcc chat me? === pablo928 [~paul@az-yuma-cuda1x-159.losaca.adelphia.net] has left #ubuntu [] [09:26] hey... links2 is very cool :) [09:26] foxiness: I have no idea what you are trying to do [09:26] no sorry [09:26] wrong person [09:27] dcg wrong person [09:27] its supposed to be very portable, but i've not been able to get it to compile for my os [09:29] bob2, k on /mnt/windows-xp > windowsxp partiton fat32 and on it mnt what include windows and /mnt/winodws and inside windows all thing like /mnt/windows/Prgram files i want to correct this to restore windowsxp "this is test pc" === thekoreuk [~thekoreuk@dsl-80-46-209-220.access.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu [09:29] anyone on x86 had any luck with getting sound to work in firefox? [09:30] what kind of sound? [09:30] flash [09:30] yes, my flash is just fine. [09:30] it's not arch-specific [09:30] it just depends on if you have a sblive or not [09:30] "pkill esd" before starting firefox === JaneW [~JaneW@wbs-146-178-239.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu [09:31] DentArthurDent, It work almost out of the box [09:31] hmm, i don't have a sblive [09:31] bob2, thanks [09:31] ill try it though [09:31] foxiness: cp -a /mnt/windows-xp/ mnt/blah/ [09:33] DCG: why links2? [09:33] why not use the original, Lynx? [09:33] bob2, this what i use mv /mnt/windows-xp/mnt/windows/* /mnt/windows-xp/ , i hope is correct [09:33] fo shizzle, thanks bob2, works now [09:33] here comes some strongbad [09:34] haha [09:34] lots of people seem to really like that stuff === bpuccio [~brian@ool-18b91a74.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:34] Razor-X: Links2 handles frames and tables VERY well. Lynx hardly handles them at all. === shale [~shale@2-18-237-24.gci.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:34] links2 is nice === drfanatic [linux@p54BCC0A3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:34] shawarma: is there any reason I should see frames in my text browser? [09:35] Razor-X: Have you ever visited a website with frames in lynx? [09:35] moinsen! [09:35] yes ;) [09:35] w3m does frames nicely too [09:35] Razor-X, If so, you know how annoying it is to navigate. Just try it once in Links or Links2, and you'll see what I mean. === saf_ita [~saf_ita@60.48.60.165] has joined #ubuntu [09:35] ok then, i'll give it a shot [09:35] after i resotre this ubuntu sys from backup file "all thing work fine" but i see error on boot "warning :.udevdb already exist on the old /dev/!" [09:35] ich bekomme beim booten seit neusten immer ein *fail* bei "setting up general console font" kann damit jemand was anfangen? === beach [~strandh@ABordeaux-253-1-87-219.w81-250.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu [09:36] any major differences between Links and Links2 other than GUI? [09:36] hello === DentArthurDent [~mud@ip70-179-233-79.dl.dl.cox.net] has left #ubuntu [] === paulproteus [~paulprote@h-67-102-97-191.mclnva23.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:37] It seems I have no idea how to find the name of a package given the name of a program I would like to install. How does one go about doing that. For instance, I would like to install fig2dev. How do I find out what package it is in? === drfanatic [linux@p54BCC0A3.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu ["Verlassend"] === FireEgl [Triton@2002:449f:ad61:0:0:0:0:1] has joined #Ubuntu [09:37] http:/packages.ubuntu.com [09:37] beach: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=fig2dev&searchon=all&subword=1&version=hoary&release=all [09:37] Razor-X: links2 is newer than links, hacked-links is even more so [09:37] beach: either search the Ubuntu packages, or use your graphical package manager === ptlo [~senko@darguner.rdlab.carnet.hr] has joined #ubuntu [09:38] i still cant change my right click mouse button from f12 to something else [09:38] DCG: hmmm, lemme jot that down for reference on next Ubuntu boot [09:38] beach: alternatively you can use synaptic's search, have it search description and name, not just name [09:38] iBuntu: edit /etc/sysctl.conf [09:38] ok [09:38] thanks [09:39] bpuccio: thanks [09:39] Razor-X: what would be an example of a graphical package manager? [09:40] beach: Synaptic or Kynaptic, depending on the distro [09:40] I myself use apt-get via CLI whenever possible === saibear [~saibear@12-210-245-57.client.insightBB.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [09:40] Razor-X: isn't it always? ;) === sege [~sege@sege.nu] has left #ubuntu [] === sege [~sege@sege.nu] has joined #ubuntu === pd_ [~pd@202.71.143.90] has joined #ubuntu [09:41] Razor-X: I read the apt-get documentation, and can't figure out how to do package search with it. [09:41] beach: it's a different command. apt-cache [09:42] topyli: ;) [09:42] mouse button keycode? === tium [~LaLu@dsaf2.net1.nerim.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:42] whenever convenient, rather [09:43] Razor-X: yeah. sometimes it's nice to just browse with synaptic or aptitude [09:43] i want to restart my pc to see what will happen thanks again bob2 c y l8r === pvanhoof [~pvanhoof@cvs.maia-scientific.com] has joined #ubuntu [09:44] MPlayer is incredibly loud by default.... [09:44] damn it, how do I change that [09:45] 9999999999999999 [09:45] Thanks everyone! I think I have enough information to digest for a while [09:45] and 00000000000000000 to turn it up again [09:45] bob2: ;) [09:45] I know that [09:45] whats the equivalent of xchat but non-gui [09:45] still pretty damn loud though [09:45] johan_: irssi-text [09:45] johan_: irssi-text [09:45] thnaks [09:45] johan_: BitchX [09:45] ;) === dwa_ [~dwa@garrut.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu === main_ [~Morten^To@7188318b50360d64.session.tor] has joined #ubuntu [09:47] irssi !!!! [09:47] bah - irssi eats bitchX for breakfast ;) === aLeSD [~alex@213-140-22-72.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu === ChinaCatJones [~chris@pool-71-111-176-217.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu === plovs [~plovs@195.13.248.82] has joined #ubuntu === plovs [~plovs@195.13.248.82] has left #ubuntu [] [09:48] thoreauputic: in your dreams! [09:48] stop havin irssi fantasies! [09:48] *having [09:48] youre a bitchX whore === thoreauputic hand Razor-X a bag of clues [09:48] ;-) [09:48] sorry [09:49] ;) [09:50] don't you love these holy wars? [09:50] gentlemen! No fighting please! Think of the furniture! [09:50] i'm all about VLC, CLI, Opera, BitchX, KDE, Enlightenment, GNU Screen, and Ratpoison [09:50] and the children! [09:50] bpuccio: you mean the noobs? [09:51] who look at us all weird when we start killing each other over a client? [09:51] Razor-X: I've seen some pretty old noobs -- for instance, my dad is still trying to get the hang of a DVD player, let alone computers === BockBilbo [~Bock@85.84.43.70] has joined #ubuntu [09:51] heh [09:52] bpuccio: but, children can also mean children of experience [09:52] in which case, the word 'n00b' makes sense [09:52] bpuccio: i had a noob ask me today where they could sell something they bought on ebay [09:53] DCG: *boggle* wow [09:53] it made me want to hurt them with a 2x4 and some masking tape === Darth_Vader [~marwich@host34-161.pool8249.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu === mindspin [~mindspin@p54B2F1D9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:54] my mozilla crashes at same sites that firefox does [09:54] you can't repeat songs in MPlayer? [09:54] what fuck dude! === Gog [~dan@guinness.ukonline.co.uk] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [09:54] johan_: that's why you don't use 'em ;) [09:54] yes, sites that crash web browsers anger me aswell [09:54] it seems to be sites that uses flash [09:55] mmmm, Opera *scratches belly* [09:55] i just wanna hop in my m808v and blow their butts to some form of purgatory [09:55] opera is good? [09:55] opera angers me as well [09:55] t3h pwnage!!!!!111!!!! [09:55] never tried it [09:55] i'll use opera when its opensourced [09:55] opera is good for one thing [09:55] mobiles [09:56] DCG: functionality triumphs over license, in my opinion [09:56] elektronaut: doesnt nokia use it in the 770 ? [09:56] sure [09:56] you use non-gui browser Razor-X === shale [~ryans@2-18-237-24.gci.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:56] dcg: it's available for all symbian phones i think.. i have it installed on my nokia 3230 [09:56] but, I bought the full version of Opera, and there are very few browsers that I buy [09:56] Razor-X: yes, but surfing without ads triumphs over spending $$ or using opera [09:56] johan_: when the web pisses me of, ye [09:57] elektronaut: nokia 770 = linux webpad [09:57] DCG: *cough* [09:57] I never used Opera (I find epiphany suffices) however, I heard that gestures was teh enatest thing ever, so I tried the extension with firefox and found I didn't like it, so I never gave Opera a shot [09:57] i'm just a freeloading evildoer [09:58] my firefox was real solid before i switched to 64 [09:58] johan_: you can setup a 32bit chroot and install firefox inside it [09:58] i might go back to the very old-school 32bit [09:58] Opera's gestures are incredible [09:59] I've tried the gestures for Firefox, but don't like 'em that much [09:59] i might do that DCG [09:59] albeit, I don't use mouse gestures anymore [09:59] seeing how I don't use a mouse anymorye ;) [09:59] is there an open office 2 beta package for ubuntu? [09:59] *anymore [09:59] shale: yes, its in universe [09:59] cool thanks [09:59] johan_: i just setup a 32bit chroot so i can run wine, pearpc, sheepshaver, and some assorted other software that hasnt been updated for amd64 [10:00] do you know a good how-to [10:00] shale: pavel always builds the latest: ftp://ftp.linux.cz/pub/localization/OpenOffice.org/devel/680/ [10:00] johan_ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575 [10:00] great === T5 [~Jan@dsl-084-059-048-060.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:01] mice are another thing I deprecate [10:01] along with the QWERTY keyboard [10:01] be aware you have to be a normal user to use dchroot [10:01] yeah. monitors suck too [10:01] thanks i'll start with the universe package see how much damage i can do with that :) === DCG slaps Razor-X with a dvorak keyboard === thoreauputic declares Razor-X deprecated ;) [10:01] DCG: Dvorak pwnz j00 ;) [10:02] Razor-X: BAT pwnz dvorak! [10:02] I'm a nonstandard Linux user, odd that [10:02] sarge is out? I feel so behind the news [10:02] then BAT pwnz j00 XD === martink [~martin@p54B3A71D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu [10:02] why would anyone use more than 7 keys? [10:02] iff Dvorak pwnz j00 then [10:02] DCG: because! [10:03] i'm assuming BAT is corded? [10:03] yes. [10:03] bpuccio: Sarge is out! Get yours now before the new version comes out! [10:03] that's why [10:03] hehe [10:03] in 3 years or so... [10:03] everyone needs to learn how to type in 7 bit binary. [10:03] Chording becomes a chore when typing big essays [10:03] DCG: everyone needs to learn the power series of the trig functions [10:04] DCG: http://www.lachstdu.com/details.php?image_id=236 [10:04] Razor-X: don't make me filter you through a hyperquadratic equation [10:04] why do we need to know power series [10:04] thoreauputic: eh, the mirros are probably swamped, besdies I have shinier stuff thanks to ubuntu, the only reason I'd run debian is a server and even then, I'm leaning towards ubuntu (previous to ubuntu I ran debian as a server and desktop for 4 years) [10:04] anyone know of a linux distro that definitely supports ati+amd64 bit ? [10:05] check gentoo shale [10:05] topyli: it takes too long to type with a serial binary system. [10:05] DCG, and I assume you can do bit error correction with out tools aswell? [10:05] but i heard its quite a task to install [10:05] DCG: where did that come from? [10:05] heh [10:05] bpuccio: yeah, i have woody on an old p200 mmx, but I'm an Ubuntu convert too :) [10:05] yea i heard that too [10:05] <--- lazy admin [10:05] johan_: because, that's why calculators exist! [10:05] stimpie: eh, no. === Darth_Vader [~marwich@host34-161.pool8249.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [10:05] did you really think they actually held static approximations of trig functions? [10:05] I updated my kernel, but how do I see if I am using the new kernel? [10:05] HELL no === Darth_Vader [~marwich@host34-161.pool8249.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu ["Sto] [10:05] aapelii, uname -r [10:05] stimpie: though i manage to do decent at base conversions [10:06] aapelii: you need to reboot after a kernel upgrade [10:06] i guess i should try it tho [10:06] and i used to be decent at chem [10:06] understand, I go to #math for a reason ;) === raphinou [~rb@bidibule.office.be.easynet.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:06] DCG, they invented computers to do that [10:06] but, the outdated GNUPLot of the Ubuntu packages pisses me off [10:06] how come windoze manage a stable 64 before linux people...that should not happen [10:07] stimpie: hehe, i angered my hs chem & math teachers [10:07] johan_: wtf [10:07] johan_: uhm, xp64 is garbage [10:07] johan_: linux had an amd64 port for 3 years before MS did [10:07] johan_: linux has been 64 bit since 1994 or so === pvanhoof [~pvanhoof@cvs.maia-scientific.com] has joined #ubuntu [10:07] oops [10:07] more than 3/4 the hardware i've got lacks drivers in xp64 === turoq_ [~turoq@a81-197-251-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu [10:07] i had to use a hacked driver to get my printer to work in xp64 [10:08] and even then my 1400dpi printer only supports 180dpi in xp64 [10:08] i just got ubuntu last night but i have a hard time [10:08] I have rebooted and uname -r says: 2.6.10-5-k7 === djp [~david@dynamic-62-56-41-38.park-s46b.dslaccess.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [10:08] aapelii, sounds cool to me ;) [10:09] compared to 32bit its hard for a not computer oriented person [10:09] the difference isn't "32bit" vs "64bit" [10:09] a simple usb serial adapter made by prolific doesnt even have drivers in xp64 "because we dont see the need to support a platform that nobody uses" [10:09] you seem very mathmatically inclined Rasor-X === topyli [~juha@dsl-hkigw3pa5.dial.inet.fi] has left #ubuntu [] [10:09] it's "amd64" vs "i386" [10:09] does anyone here have any experience of using multisync under hoary? [10:09] Well, I have amd64 and I am using 32 bit ubuntu [10:09] bob2: actually, in linux its x86_64 [10:09] when I do an kernel upgrade thru the Synaptic Package Manager do I run the risk of an unbootable system? === davidpa [~david@232.Red-83-43-124.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:10] stimpie: not really [10:10] DCG: well, depends. the kernel calls it that, gcc calls it x86-64, dpkg calls it amd64. [10:10] stimpie: you probably will still be able to boot your old kernel though grub [10:10] Bob2: yea [10:10] or, other way round for kernel and gcc [10:10] but do I need to change grub myself? [10:10] stimpie: dont think so [10:11] ok, ill go for it then [10:11] stimpie: grub adds entries for you [10:11] novato [10:11] I'am used to gentoo kernel upgrades [10:11] any good math app you recommand Rasor-X [10:11] thoreauputic: actually, the dpkg runs a script that regenerates menu.lst [10:12] DCG: OK - whatever - I'm not being literal [10:12] johan_: i'd reccommend mathmatica, but its closedsource and big $$$$ [10:12] i use that [10:12] they pay for it at the office [10:12] i got gauss, matlab, R [10:13] i've not quite figured out why some people insist on using it for some things C is faster at and better suited to [10:13] use mathematica? [10:13] what is 'it' [10:13] jhon_: why not use Maxima? [10:13] i ran into a util for some game my gf was playing, the util was a compiled mathmatica program [10:13] *johan [10:13] i see [10:14] I use it meself [10:14] Mathematica costs money [10:14] quite a bit [10:14] i'll check maxima [10:14] although, I could get it at student discount [10:14] is it symbolic [10:14] you had to leave the program running overnight for it to generate a tempo graph for a audio file [10:14] (seeing how i'm a 15 year old) [10:14] yeah, it is [10:14] took like 12 hours for it to process a 3 minute song [10:14] DCG: you mean, generating a waveform for it? [10:15] like a variation on the sin curve? [10:15] no, i mean it figured out the BPM for the entire song, output it to another program which generated semi-random ddr steps from the tempo info [10:15] that should not be long === sobersabre [~bilbo@l192-115-16-116.broadband.actcom.net.il] has joined #ubuntu [10:15] DCG: that's not that long [10:15] on a sample by sample basis, locating tempo changes and what not [10:15] hi guys. [10:15] but its faster to code than C no [10:15] i am trying to write a script. [10:16] in /bin/sh language === SlackFart [~el_fart0@soundscape.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu [10:16] maybe. [10:16] DCG: much faster to do the BPM yourself === iBuntu [~devDelay@cpe-24-166-4-36.indy.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [10:16] fortran? [10:16] i want to be able to run programs input automatically. i remember there's something with _EOF or EOF . how do i use it ? [10:16] Razor-X: but i'm talking about sample-accurate bpm timing for songs where it may change many times within the song === FireEgl [~FireEgl@2002:449f:ad61:0:0:0:0:1] has joined #Ubuntu [10:17] DCG: yes, doing it by hand isn't _that_ hard you know [10:17] that's how people've been doing it way before the inception of computers === Daylighthater [~fredoflob@dD5763E92.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu [10:18] yes, [10:18] i'm talking about for the specific purpose of ddr style games [10:18] much much faster than a 12 hour process === aelkner [~aelkner@dsl017-065-082.wdc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:18] agreed === Linux-lover [Linux@62.215.18.124] has joined #ubuntu [10:18] but some ppl suck at figuring out a tempo [10:18] is fortran in ubuntu sources [10:18] ahhh, yes ;) [10:19] I'm pretty good at that stuff [10:19] johan_ i expect so... 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[10:20] there [10:20] it should be ok now [10:20] gotta love em :) [10:20] quick, news at eleven, "Windows supporters found spamming Linux chatrooms!" [10:20] hmmm - breaks all spamming records I've seen [10:20] lol [10:21] bastards [10:21] really? === mode/#ubuntu [+b Guest*!*@*] by fabbione [10:21] my fun right now is figuring out why the hell my usb firmware works perfect in linux, but doesnt work right in windows [10:21] windows team [10:21] that wasn't very impressive at all [10:21] how exiting === mode/#ubuntu [-i] by fabbione === kakalto [~kakalto@wired-210-54-56-37.ps.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu === mode/#ubuntu [-o fabbione] by fabbione === runge [~runge@host-206-98.wetternet.net] has joined #ubuntu === spo0nman [~pankaj@spo0nman.user] has joined #ubuntu === Burgundavia [~corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu === liable [~linux@dialup-231.121.221.203.acc02-apli-cai.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu === hno73 [~hno73@henrik.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu === Funzo [~X@CPE0090967b4ae3-CM001225009118.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu === stimpie [~stimpie@dslam240-147-172-82.dyndsl.versatel.nl] has joined #ubuntu === Razor-X [razorx@everest.sosdg.org] has joined #ubuntu [10:21] thanks, Fabbione :) [10:21] woaha, that was uber spammage === Xyrouz [~Xyrouz@0x3e42bd6c.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu === stefan_dk [~stefan@0x535d66ea.boanxx16.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu [10:22] heh, all i saw was a ton of packets flying in and out of konversation, and the userlist flickering === stimpie didnt do it ;-) [10:22] that's the stuff script kiddies are made of ;) === Darth_Vader [~marwich@host34-161.pool8249.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [10:22] they can't do anything better [10:22] holy crap [10:22] anyone play with ez-usb stuff? === kyle [~gnuprophe@66.111.46.209] has joined #ubuntu [10:23] sorry if i had to put the channel in invite only for a few seconds === seb128 [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-15-72.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu === Darth_Vader [~marwich@host34-161.pool8249.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu ["Sto] [10:23] but it's the only way to stop the mess [10:23] #join mozilla === _tester_ [~yz@216.238.204.91] has joined #ubuntu === Md [md@md.staff.freenode] has joined #ubuntu === IIIEars [~bill@cpe-24-30-191-199.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === robitaille [~robitaill@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu === aelkner [~aelkner@dsl017-065-082.wdc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === xsdg [xsdg@xsdg.staff.freenode] has joined #ubuntu === sysrq [~sysrq@68-190-222-2.mpk-mres.charterpipeline.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:24] let's go spam #windows back XD (joking) === albino [albino@129.123.41.6] has joined #ubuntu [10:25] Hello! - (just compiled my first kernel - menuconfig is like walking through a minefield blindfolded. - lol) === k4rp0r [~k4rp0r@dsl-hkigw10i1c.dial.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu === SithToast [~SithToast@cable5-113.murray-ky.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:25] Razor-X: is there a #windows? Never tried it... === thoreauputic tries it === mode/#ubuntu [-b Guest*!*@*] by Md [10:25] hmm - ten people :) === fishynet [fishy@adsl-209-12-214.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu === carlos [~carlos@69.Red-80-33-181.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:26] not much _of_ it, though [10:26] Razor-X: indeed === linuxboy [~anon@yoda.frogfoot.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:26] #windows? - yep been there spent the time talking about viruses and IE trojans. === Kamping_Kaiser [~kaiser@ppp214-18.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:26] IIIEars: xconfig is worse [10:26] IIIEars: heh [10:26] ah, we are back === DCG misses the old tk xconfig [10:26] xconfig? - hm [10:26] DCG: I think i'm going to try ratpoison on my old box === aelkner [~aelkner@dsl017-065-082.wdc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu === ajmitch [~ajmitch@port162-41.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu [10:27] ratpoison? you got some varmint running around in there? [10:27] yeahp ;) [10:27] DCG: you mean xorgcfg? === maddler [maddler@81.174.27.50] has joined #ubuntu [10:27] my celeron has gerbils running on a wheel. [10:27] DCG: That uses tk, doesn't it? Or is it pure X11? [10:28] shawarma: no xconfig, the X window configuration app for the linux kernel [10:28] IIIEars: there's a real WM called Ratpoison, ya know ;0 [10:28] :) [10:28] *;) [10:28] DCG: Of course. [10:28] DCG: Silly me. [10:28] cd /usr/src/linux ; make xconfig === Gman_ [~Glynn@amfea-proxy-1.sun.com] has joined #ubuntu [10:28] can anyone help me with a problem playing ogg files in a mozilla browser === paulproteus [~paulprote@h-67-102-97-191.mclnva23.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu === scanwinder [~caleb736@CPE-60-224-215-12.wa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [10:29] fabbione: why sorry? :) you did what needed to be done and handled it well. [10:29] aelkner: go back to #mozilla!!!! (just kidding ;) [10:29] (a bit late, yes, I'm eating burritos though >.> ) === mpq [~mpq@c-24-22-133-235.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:29] only sure of one thing - not likely to use the first try. (not finished compiling yet. tho [10:29] there's nobody at #mozilla [10:29] Razor-X: ratpoison almost reminds me of 9wm in a small way, the lack of window widgets [10:30] i *hated* 9wm [10:30] the real one, not the clone [10:30] anything but TWM is my philosophy ;) [10:30] There has to be a better way to tailor a kernel no one could know enough about all of the various drivers and modules. === DataPulse [asdas@116.13.205.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [10:31] IIIEars: You can start with the config found in /boot. Copy it to your kernel source as ".config" [10:31] well, mwell, my P4 is an old 486 running Fluxbox [10:31] I may end up installing enlightenment, tohugh [10:31] my problem is that the only mozilla plugin I find is for VLC, the french multi-media plugin. I installed it and put the embed tab in my html page wsith autostart="false" and the piece of crap autostarts anyway. [10:31] shawarma - nice tip. - Thank You. :) [10:32] then it stops when I use the plau() function [10:32] |||Ears: sure just release a binary-only kernel, force device makers to write their own drivers, and keep the kernel outdated for 5+ years while users are subjected to using an ancient pile of garbage [10:32] *though [10:32] IIIEars: No problem. === Swynndla [~Swynndla@210-54-11-182.ipsm.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu [10:33] jeez - got more than a couple interesting errors. "Undefined" this and "possible race condition" that [10:33] is there another way to play ogg files in an html page? [10:33] errr [10:33] sorry for my crap writing above [10:33] my shell crapped on me === Guest77017 [~CaSS@85.99.84.15] has joined #ubuntu [10:35] heh, i've got some race conditions in my os, but i blame them entirely on microsoft. [10:36] any suggestions on how to play ogg files in firefox without using VLC? === Kyynara [~pate@hki2-6-2-ad.hoasnet.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu [10:36] is there any command in MPlayer to cause a file to loop? [10:36] aelkner: denying the VLC?!?! [10:36] does any1 know any good software firewalls for linux? === chocoIate [~choco@ppp-62-10-127-51.dialup.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu [10:36] it works fuinny [10:37] it plays the file when I say autostart="false" [10:37] scanwinder, shorewall === d3bian [~d3bian@164M36.oasis.mediatti.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:37] scanwinder: iptables or whatever it was replaced by [10:37] scanwinder - quite a few people like "firestarter" it is graphical and very easy to use. === Hackmo [~sean13@82-41-83-57.cable.ubr01.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [10:37] i looked at firestarter a while ago........it didnt have many options [10:37] scanwinder: firestarter or guarddog are nice GUIs [10:38] shorewall is likely the best firewall. - a bit intimidating for someone new tho. [10:38] use iptables === jsgotangco [~jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu === blktiger [~blktiger@cpe-24-167-74-189.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === mht [~hansen@202.148.21.97] has joined #ubuntu [10:39] ok [10:39] Razor-X: not everyone has the time or inclination to learn iptables === FireEgl [Triton@2002:449f:ad61:0:0:0:0:1] has joined #Ubuntu [10:39] ill look at shorewall first === DCG cleans his old keyboard, and while hes at it makes a dvorak keyboard to throw at Razor-X [10:39] scanwinder - if you are into security google bastille, LIDS, and selinux, === Matt0 [matt@matt0.user] has joined #ubuntu === jstation [~aortiz@153.Red-80-32-118.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:40] Razor-X: Have you used VLC successfully in firefox? === Matt0 [matt@matt0.user] has left #ubuntu [] [10:40] darn it the Noexecute app. what was it called? [10:41] alekner: not really, actually, I don't use Firefox [10:41] DCG: why do you hate Dvorak? [10:41] Ok thanks anyway [10:41] it's better, stop that [10:42] what is the default user for webmin? [10:43] ehm. im having a little trouble here adjusting to this. i used sudo to mount a fs.. but i cant get into it because i dont have root on my own box === ubuntu [~ubuntu@194.19.108.15] has joined #ubuntu === ubuntu [~ubuntu@194.19.108.15] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === kestas [~asdf2@ppp170-71.lns1.per1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:43] thoreauputic - can you easily gerp a mess of files and recurse directories looking for a text string? [10:43] crossbar: eh? [10:43] you mean, you don't have root access? [10:43] oh its my box. === telemaco [~telemaco@57.Red-83-35-178.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu === Md [md@md.staff.freenode] has left #ubuntu [] [10:44] so, you want all users to be able to read the partition? [10:44] sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt2 --- cd mnt2/ you must be root [10:44] is there any way to run commands like 'runthis > /dev/null 2>&1 && runthistoo; andrunthis;' in a gnome panel shortcut? [10:44] Razor-X: what browser do you use? [10:44] IIIEars: probably, but I don't know the command [10:44] it doesnt seem to work for some reason [10:44] aelkner: Opera [10:44] I see [10:44] razor, or me even-- the admin :) [10:44] thoreauputic - Thanks :0 === abstract_ [~abstract@203-206-85-35.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [10:45] i still canned spall (sigh) [10:45] root is disabled by default. im not sure what to do instead since i cant sudo a cd command === kyle [~gnuprophe@66.111.46.209] has left #ubuntu [] [10:45] crossbar: sudo -s to get a root shell [10:45] crossbar: you want to be able to mount without sudo'ing? [10:46] crossbar: there's a command (I forget off the top of my head) to su using sudo [10:46] but, just do this [10:46] thoreauputic, right! [10:46] mount /dev/path/to/drive /mnt/mount/point -t fstype -o umask=0222 [10:46] hmm [10:46] Razor-X: erm, that would be the command I just gave above === beezly [~beezly@2001:630:63:16:230:1bff:feb7:2528] has joined #ubuntu [10:46] ahhh, ok then! [10:46] i just wasnt sure how to spawn a root shell === pvanhoof [~pvanhoof@cvs.maia-scientific.com] has joined #ubuntu === abstract_ [~abstract@203-206-85-35.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [10:47] this is it, mplayer sucks stuff-I-won't-mention [10:48] :O === Avinoam [apache@84.218.21.85] has joined #ubuntu === abstract_ [~abstract@203-206-85-35.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu === }x{|CeRbErUs [~Flodder13@d54C3C5F6.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu === abstract_ is now known as shanon === koma is now known as komA === tvelocity [~tony@ipa21.0.tellas.gr] has joined #ubuntu [10:52] geez ubuntu loves to lag up out of nowhere === metzen [~metzen@pool-68-237-250-64.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu === johan_ [~johan@HSE-Montreal-ppp345286.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu === plovs [~plovs@195.13.248.82] has joined #ubuntu === shanon [~abstract@203-206-85-35.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [10:56] is there a source for fortran === yanek [yanek@213.211.52.96] has joined #ubuntu === ubuntu [~ubuntu@cm222.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu [10:58] how do i fix broken packages with apt-get? [10:58] i thought it was apt-get -f install but its not working [10:58] hi to everyone === pvanhoof [~pvanhoof@cvs.maia-scientific.com] has joined #ubuntu [11:00] scanwinder: you find out who made the package and you beat them with a 2x4 until the problem is solved. === blue119 [blue119@134-208-28-219.ee.ndhu.edu.tw] has joined #ubuntu [11:00] pimpin! [11:00] oh wait, thats how its done in the us postal system. [11:01] Vlc rules! === pvanhoof [~pvanhoof@cvs.maia-scientific.com] has joined #ubuntu [11:01] feck mplayer [11:01] seriously, is it "apt-get -f install"? === Tomcat__ [~Tomcat@vpn2-dynip64.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de] has joined #ubuntu [11:01] scanwinder: you can try that, but it probably wont work [11:01] sudo apt-get === subterrific [~jason@subterrific.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:01] yeh i put in "sudo apt-get -f install" [11:02] didnt work [11:02] you need to look at why its failing === TiffOn [user@218.Red-217-126-197.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:02] what do i do then? [11:02] oh ok [11:02] what deps are not being met [11:02] not deps [11:02] unconfigured packages? [11:02] i dont no what package i just go 2 kynaptic and whenever i try 2 do sumthin its says it cant do it coz of broken packages [11:02] heh === TongMaster [~TongMaste@home.waugh.id.au] has joined #ubuntu === omppa [~omppa@addr-213-139-178-202.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:03] bbl === thisfred [~thisfred@a80-127-80-154.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu [11:05] what problem in my computer causes following errors: Out of memory: Killed process 1060 (hotplug) [11:05] Out of memory: Killed process 1061 (hotplug) [11:05] Out of memory: Killed process 1 (init) [11:05] Kernel panic - no syncing: Out of memory and no killable process... [11:06] scanwinder: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto << I think you need to read this and edit your /etc/apt/sources.list [11:06] omppa: that you are running out of memory... [11:06] omppa: how much ram do you have in that system? [11:07] it isn't likely a ram problem [11:07] 196Mb, but my computer is running out of memory? [11:07] omppa: did you enable the swap partition? === icefinger [~icefinger@mc070006.reshsg.uci.edu] has joined #ubuntu [11:07] IIIEars: heh - I think fabbione knows a thing or two about the kernel ;) [11:07] omppa: well with 196MB of ram and running X yes.. you can === disasm [disirc@69-162-7-12.stcgpa.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu === ompaul [~ompaul@213-202-175-175.bas504.dsl.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:08] You know that you can use Alt+Middle mouse button to resize windows, right? How can I change that to Alt+Left Mouse button? === pvanhoof [~pvanhoof@cvs.maia-scientific.com] has joined #ubuntu === beelie [~wouter@138-147.240.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu [11:09] hello [11:09] thoreauputic - my first kernel is HUGE - it is very inclusive - rofl [11:10] IIIEars: ah well, better safe than sorry I guess ;) === |Ivanch0| [~blas@80.103.124.136] has joined #ubuntu [11:10] <|Ivanch0|> enass [11:11] i've got a small question: i'd like to install ubuntu on a PC that doesn't support booting up from cdrom, is it possible to install ubuntu starting from a floppy? === ompaul wanted to burn a cd with several different burners in gnome - it seems to be working with k3b [11:11] beelie: not from floppy, but you can do netboot (if the pc supports it) === semanta [~Hilare_@81.215.51.177] has joined #ubuntu === ompaul wonders what clues am I missing to make gnome burners work [11:12] beelie: Yes, I think you can. Give me a sec to find the instructions. [11:12] Thank You guys for all the helpful info. - Good Night! :) [11:12] actually, i've got the choice between C and A (hd and floppy) === IIIEars [~bill@cpe-24-30-191-199.socal.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu ["Microsoft] [11:12] that would be very nice shawarma ! [11:12] beelie: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SmartBootManagerHowto [11:13] beelie: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/InstallWithFloppiesHowto [11:13] beelie: That allows you to boot from the floppy (just boot) and continue from the CD. === e-guru [~yurtesen@a80-186-124-118.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu [11:13] does anybody know if there is a way to run vbasic scripts properly while browsing with ubuntu? [11:13] thanks thoreauputic and shawarma ! [11:14] e-guru, _if_ they adhere to the win sdk using wine might be an option [11:14] e-guru: no [11:14] ohh that would be scripts in an app === ompaul thinks that scripts should be small programs === ompaul goes back to bed === wdh [~KlaasVaag@82-197-207-89.dsl.cambrium.nl] has joined #ubuntu === PoopinClumpin [~Poopin@ppp-69-236-134-245.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu === bpuccio [~brian@ool-18b91a74.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu === stvn [~sottens@pike.pepperfish.net] has joined #ubuntu === bpuccio [~brian@ool-18b91a74.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu === echylo_ [~echylo@84-179.245.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu [11:17] when i try to fix broken packages, i get the following error [11:17] E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages. [11:17] E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages. [11:17] E: Unable to correct dependencies [11:17] E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages. [11:17] E: Unable to correct dependencies [11:18] how can i correct this? [11:18] scanwinder: did you read the URL I posted ? [11:18] yer... [11:18] scanwinder: I suspect the problem lies in your sources.list [11:19] wow, you cranked up the apt debugging there [11:19] your sources.list is broken [11:19] it looks ok tho........ [11:19] paste it to #flood [11:19] scanwinder: it isn't OK [11:20] ok [11:20] ompaul: thanks,... [11:20] bob2: thanks [11:20] deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)] / hoary main restricted [11:20] deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted universe multiverse [11:20] deb-src http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted universe multiverse [11:20] ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the [11:20] ## distribution. [11:20] deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-updates main restricted [11:20] deb-src http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-updates main restricted [11:21] ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe' [11:21] ## repository. === e-guru [~yurtesen@a80-186-124-118.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has left #ubuntu [] [11:21] ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu [11:21] ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to [11:21] ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in [11:21] scanwinder, in #flood he said!!! [11:21] ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security [11:21] ## team. [11:21] deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary universe [11:21] deb-src http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary universe [11:21] deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-security main restricted === Ubuntian [~Ubuntian@81.56.196.103] has joined #ubuntu [11:21] deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-security main restricted [11:21] deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-security universe [11:21] deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-security universe [11:21] dude [11:21] thats my sources.list [11:21] oh he tried. [11:21] #flood? [11:21] #flood. [11:21] a channel that is meant for pasting crap [11:21] whats that? [11:21] oh ok [11:21] where it won't disturb 300 people [11:21] sorry....... [11:22] 400 :) [11:22] scanwinder: you're lucky not to be kicked for that - in most chnnels you would be [11:22] scanwinder, you seem to have a double entry for hoary universe [11:22] 390 of them are idle/lurking :-P If they can't be bothered to interact I feel no need to protect their logs from fluff ;P [11:22] scanwinder: what was in there that's gone now? [11:23] might be 'windows team' in disguise guys [11:23] nothing.... [11:23] johan_ they're mad because we thought up the human logo first ;) === hanseatic [~ddh@c178133.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu === ompaul points at 425 (-1) [11:23] hi [11:23] scanwinder, try moving your sources.list to another location and then run 'sudo apt-setup [11:23] === pvanhoof [~pvanhoof@cvs.maia-scientific.com] has joined #ubuntu === freax [~pvanhoof@cvs.maia-scientific.com] has joined #ubuntu [11:24] ompaul, who cares for the exact number.. we all can read :) [11:24] :) [11:25] guys i have a problem: there is a window that pops up every 5 minutes that says "the shift key has been typed 5 times, do you want to activate the sticky keys" i click cancel and then it does it again and again every 5 minutes...especially when i watch a movie... [11:25] wdh: I feel better on the inside having known the real number. [11:25] what's happening? [11:25] kvidell, :) [11:25] Sorry. Sauvingnon Blanc makes me useless. === kvidell goes back to his bottle. [11:26] Ubuntian: it thinks you want the accessibility options turned on, but why I don't know [11:26] .... [11:26] Great now assistive technologies is turned on [11:27] anyone know why vlc wouldnt play any audio? [11:27] how do I turn that off? :-\ [11:27] Ubuntian, 'system -> preferences -> keyboard -> accessibility options' [11:27] how do I kill the huge fonts? [11:27] I'm scared :-\ [11:27] probably the same way you started them? [11:27] this is what I get for trying to help. [11:27] Nope. They started themselves when I ran the app [11:28] or the way i just told ubuntian :) [11:28] I closed the app without turning it on and they're still there x.x [11:28] nope :-\ [11:28] kvidell: look at your screen through the wrong end of a telescope ;-) [11:28] wdh, thoreauputic yes but i don't want to enable the sticky keys... [11:28] hah... >.> option duly noted. === k4rp0r [~k4rp0r@dsl-hkigw10i1c.dial.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu [11:28] In the mean time, I'm going to detatch my screen session here and just restart X as I've been meaning to give xorg a kick in the pants anyway. [11:31] btw did u know that grabit works fine with wine? [11:31] all better. === ntoll [~ntoll@62.232.39.9] has joined #ubuntu [11:31] Ubuntian: I take it the "Enable Sticky Keys" box is _not_ checked? [11:32] thoreauputic, it is not checked [11:32] Ubuntian: not the "enable keyboard acessibility features" ? [11:33] *nor === Demian__ [~Newbie__@flyingdutchmancreations.nl] has joined #ubuntu [11:33] hello [11:33] I have an odd problem [11:33] anyone here? :) [11:33] thoreauputic, that one is checked [11:33] :-) === tcx [~tcx@dzj207.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu [11:33] Ubuntian: uncheck it === sinope [~sinope@bur-jud-175-002.rh.uchicago.edu] has joined #ubuntu [11:33] done [11:33] I would like to say hello to eberybody :] === tiocaiman [~splaza@pc-200-74-118-182.megavia.pc.metropolis-inter.com] has joined #ubuntu [11:33] then say it [11:33] well hello back :) [11:34] anyways.... [11:34] If I play music [11:34] who is eberybody? === ankur [~ankur@203.212.233.30] has joined #ubuntu [11:34] all of you ;] [11:34] after a while my left channel just goes dead [11:34] thoreauputic, well thanks i think it's gonna work that way [11:34] is there somebody form Poland? [11:34] *from [11:34] Ubuntian: one would hope so, yes :) [11:34] If I unplug en replug the sound cable it turns back on [11:34] tcx, all the Poles? [11:35] Demian__, check your jack [11:35] yes [11:35] could be knackered [11:35] ntoll, I thought so too [11:35] demian__: that makes me want to think it's a bad connection on the speaker/amplifier side. [11:35] kvidell, as did I [11:35] but! [11:35] thats the usual cause for l/r loss [11:35] it's not :( [11:35] aha [11:35] there is a but [11:35] hahaha === k4rp0r [~k4rp0r@dsl-hkigw10i1c.dial.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu [11:36] explain your sound system [11:36] only that it is not === tcx [~tcx@dzj207.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu [11:36] I have a intel 82801 [11:36] simple PC speakers? advanced klipsch/cambridge system? stereo/studio/dj amplifier+mixer -> pa? [11:36] no [11:36] I have a cable conected to an amplifier [11:37] the jack would seem te most logical problem [11:37] but the it should turn on if I twist it [11:37] right? [11:37] SUL === Ubuntian [~Ubuntian@81.56.196.103] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [11:37] if it's a problem in the jack or the cable within the first few inches of it, sure. [11:37] possibly [11:37] but If I just reconnect it [11:38] it gives sound over my left channel [11:38] my thought is it might be something more sinister like the hardware that has naught to do with your computer. [11:38] kvidell, My idea exactly === krischan [~krischan@p54B85B22.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:38] which (ofcourse) sucks [11:38] cause after a while when I do nothing === paulproteus [~paulprote@h-67-102-97-191.mclnva23.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:38] it just cuts again [11:39] I thought it might be the bass [11:39] after a substantial dB loss (ie: losing it's feed completely) sometimes causes the chips/resistors in either amplifiers or speakers to reset (Most speakers, if more than one cone, have a little circuit board in them that seperates out the frequencies so's to not blow the tweaters, etc) [11:39] you know shaking the pc and such === stvn [~sottens@pike.pepperfish.net] has left #ubuntu [] [11:39] ("reset" meaning just.. calming down.) === saber_ [~Miranda@user-11fa252.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu [11:39] :) === turoq_ is now known as Turoq [11:40] I'm sure it's not the amplifier or the speakers [11:40] :( [11:40] a cd works [11:40] from the pc? [11:40] I think I looked at every possibility [11:40] only mp3s make it go out? [11:40] no a cd player [11:40] oh [11:40] no my pc === lok [~pouet@pouet.dnsalias.org] has joined #ubuntu [11:40] in movies it's the same === benjamin123 [~benjamin@c-24-22-132-30.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === ikypakis [t11@195.245.229.17] has joined #Ubuntu [11:41] anyone here having a funky experience updating azureus? [11:41] benjamin123, yeah [11:41] it keeps asking to install the latest version [11:41] ah [11:41] change the permissions [11:41] what does this mean: === azol [artem@217.168.67.221] has joined #ubuntu [11:41] perl: warning: Setting locale failed. [11:41] perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: [11:41] LANGUAGE = "en_US:en_GB:en", [11:41] LC_ALL = (unset), [11:41] LANG = "en" [11:41] are supported and installed on your system. [11:41] perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C"). [11:42] locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory [11:42] locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory [11:42] locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory [11:42] how do i do this, just edit the azureus executable? [11:42] uhmm [11:42] hey ibuntu which perl do u have installed [11:42] chmod === cetex_ [~uplink@h67n2fls31o259.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu [11:42] power pc [11:42] not sure really [11:42] which version [11:42] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=40186&highlight=azureus === thoreauputic wishes the ops would just set autokick for more than 4 lines of flood [11:43] type perl -version [11:43] tell me what u got === DanielN [~KodiaK@162.23.4.126] has joined #ubuntu [11:43] benjamin123, man chown [11:43] 5.8.4-6 [11:43] base === mht [~hansen@202.148.21.97] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [11:43] ok did u just upgrade ur system [11:43] thoreaputic: but where would that leave the poor windows team? :'( [11:43] mako: you've got my mail? [11:43] hahaha [11:43] yeah [11:43] see thats the problem right there [11:44] kvidell: My heart bleeds for them ;) [11:44] im just trying to get vlc to play audio [11:44] the new perl is having probelm wiht system upadtes [11:44] well i was getting this locale error before [11:44] the thing is u had to cofig perl b4 u update it to get it to work right [11:44] i updated [11:44] ok, what should i do? [11:44] just type man chown azureus? === pvanhoof [~pvanhoof@cvs.maia-scientific.com] has joined #ubuntu [11:45] y is it giving u that error beacuse ur tryin to install sumthin or u just compiling a perl app [11:45] i am installing something [11:45] then the problelm is not perl the probnlem is ur path [11:45] when i open vlc it says cant set locale to ". [11:45] type echo $PATH [11:46] what did u get [11:46] but no one for my sound problem then? [11:46] and it gave me that other error when i apt-get install vlc-plugin-esd [11:46] what ur problem Demian [11:46] with my sound :) [11:46] did u type the cmd i tolf u to [11:46] what is it htough === mdke [~mdke@mdke.user] has joined #ubuntu === johan_ [~johan@HSE-Montreal-ppp345286.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu [11:47] kvidell, do you know how this could be my hardwear? [11:47] hehehe [11:47] hardware === tosti [1010@214-moc-4.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu [11:48] thats the sound card that is stock in your dell laptop [11:48] all u have to do is modify ur kernel to find that driver === robertj [~rcaskey@cai17.music.uga.edu] has joined #ubuntu [11:50] ok, i should probably fix that perl problem but [11:50] i got audio to playback on vlc [11:50] a bit choppy at some points [11:50] if ur driver is not in the kernel file u have an option in the bottom of all the sound drivers [11:50] but pretty sweet [11:50] and enable snd_sound_driver = YES [11:51] the only problem with that id that is goin tolook for all the soundcard drivers identified till one works [11:51] so ur boot up time might be slower === DelPede [Exnay@port91.ds1-abc.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu === desplesda [~desplesda@CPE-143-238-232-83.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu === icha_avril [~kemirinet@61.247.56.37] has joined #ubuntu === icha_avril [~kemirinet@61.247.56.37] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [11:53] what on earth was that about an hour and a half ago [11:53] :/ [11:53] lol [11:53] the spam? [11:53] yeah === Caveman [~biocorp@caveman.user] has joined #ubuntu [11:53] lol [11:53] no idea [11:53] its very scary [11:54] whats up johan [11:54] no 3d ati driver for my amd64...sniff [11:54] how do you add an application to the application database [11:55] what u do mean ibuntu [11:55] u wanna install an app === elric [~m33p@ppp114-10.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:55] what u do mean [11:55] i am trying to open a file with a different app and when i select the app (vlc gtk+) it says that [11:55] the app is installed and works [11:55] if u already download an app itll sit in ur var dir or tmp dir , till u tell the system to clean it [11:56] oh [11:56] with synaptic? [11:56] i installed using apt-get === Cicada [~chatzilla@203.37.173.60] has joined #ubuntu [11:57] hey all , how do i work out which kernel i am using... [11:57] synaptic is just a gui version of apt-get for ubuntu [11:57] so its the same thing === mdke [~mdke@mdke.user] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [11:57] Cicada: type uname -r === shock_ [~shockwave@dsl-082-082-156-122.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu === krischan [~krischan@p54B85B22.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:57] they both work off the same files [11:57] cheers [11:57] in terminal [11:57] iBuntu: that is a bug in the vlc package [11:57] iBuntu: i know what you're talking about === housetier [~housetier@dsl-084-056-154-184.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:58] can i fix it by changing default.list or whatever it is? === ChinaCatJones [~chris@pool-71-111-176-217.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:58] no [11:58] or do i have to forget about it? === krischan [~krischan@p54B85B22.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:58] it is because the vlc.desktop file says the command is wxvlc [11:58] how do i work out the package name for "SDL library" and how do i check whether it is installed (via a term) [11:58] but the command is really just vlc === simder [~sebastian@p54B7B76E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu [11:59] soooo, when you get that open with dialog, just do Use custom command: vlc [11:59] instead of picking 'VLC for Gtk+' from the list === falcon-02 [~admin@falcon.suryadata.net] has joined #ubuntu === DrX [~olle@h21n2fls307o285.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu [11:59] does anyone here have any experience of using multisync under hoary? [12:00] helo [12:00] hallo [12:00] what do u wanna know djp [12:00] what kernel version does ubuntu come with ? === scorpix_ [~scorpix@as17-25.qualitynet.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:01] 2.6.10 [12:01] 2.6.10-5-386 is what i have [12:01] help, i'm newbie in ubuntu. i can't share my folder. how is the procedure ? [12:01] great thanks === SteveA_ [~steve@213.226.190.253] has joined #ubuntu [12:01] can some one help me with finding a package name? I have no idea [12:01] falcon-02: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/ [12:02] d3bian: i have got multisync working with my k700i mobile. however the last time i multisynced, contact details were deleted from my k700i. not all of them but a few... any ideas why? [12:02] how do i work out the package name for "SDL library" and how do i check whether it is installed (via a term) [12:02] Cicada: apt-cache search === dmoyne [~dmoyne@dyn-83-155-168-197.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #ubuntu [12:03] Cicada: apt-cache policy [12:03] subterrific, thanks [12:03] that works === stimpie [~stimpie@dslam240-147-172-82.dyndsl.versatel.nl] has joined #ubuntu [12:03] thoreauputic: thanks mate [12:03] do you know why vlc would say cant set locale to ". [12:03] can i tell grub to boot from cd? [12:03] no worries :) [12:03] hanseatic: tell your bios [12:03] iBuntu: no problem [12:03] hanseatic: put a bootable cd in and it should boot from it [12:04] because that stops it from opening the file === gnuyen [~gnuyen@68-66-11-106.lmdaca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:04] iBuntu: nope, maybe your locale is mesed up? [12:04] thenuke: i've just do what it said. just right click, choose share folder, fill the name, install samba, chose SMB. but in other client, i cannot see my sharing === jetscreamer [~jetscream@adsl-64-219-216-41.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:04] and i havent figured out how to mount the smb share i want so i can just select the file [12:04] does anyone know how to install transcode === Quazion [~quazion@pcrepairman.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu [12:04] on ubuntu hoary? === dmoyne [~dmoyne@dyn-83-155-168-197.ppp.tiscali.fr] has left #ubuntu ["Kopete] [12:04] lol [12:04] did u power off wrong djp [12:04] erk wrong chan [12:04] what is locale anyway? [12:05] goldfish i need a workaround... my first cd-drive (hdc) is very sensitive to errors, so i want to use hdd. [12:05] see with multisync, the config files rebackup everytime u use them [12:05] so uf u dont probably shut the prog u lose all ur stuff [12:06] hanseatic, just put the contents on the cd in the partition you are going to install to [12:06] or any partition for that matter [12:06] does someone know how to install java webstart? [12:06] edit yaboot.conf to look to the hd:# === factorx [~factorx@dsl-084-060-029-052.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:06] d3bian: how do you mean? [12:07] djp, are you op on efnet? === Fergy [~Fergy@a82-92-232-156.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu [12:07] I just did an apt-get install libsdl1.2debian-all whic removed libsdl1.2debian-oss is this likely to have broken anything? [12:07] iBuntu: no [12:07] ok === saber_ [~Miranda@user-11fa252.dsl.mindspring.com] has left #ubuntu [] [12:08] ibuntu you mean the whole tree, or the *.iso file? === HiddenWolf [~hidden@136.39.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:09] just the files [12:09] not the iso [12:09] your drive is completely bad? === rem_ [~rem@adsl-136-116-bs2.tiscali.ch] has joined #ubuntu [12:10] what kinda computer is it btw? === zeedo [~zeedo@www.reboot-robot.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:11] ibuntu i installed before, by booting from the drive, then unmounting it, and mounting hdd manually to /cdrom and went on with the installation [12:11] does anyone know how to get transcode installed by using apt? [12:11] but i thought there might be a more elegant way... === angelsfall [~oliver@mail.godot.de] has joined #ubuntu === ztonzy [~ztonzy@ztonzy.artist.blender] has joined #ubuntu [12:11] hey!# [12:12] wtf,,, what was that? "...Windows Team...." I got disconnected... [12:12] does anyone know when ubuntu with the new debian release will be released? === ChinaCatJones [~chris@pool-71-111-176-217.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu === terrex [~terrex@84-122-69-8.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:13] how do I set my locale? [12:13] hanseatic: that willl work [12:13] just get into the installer and get the cdromto pull off the installer components [12:14] then take it out [12:14] ztonzy i got that before [12:14] and setup the network and choose a download site === jind [~jind@216-220-56.7002.adsl.tele2.no] has joined #ubuntu [12:14] partition [12:14] then install base === deviant [~deviant@195.95.255.75] has joined #ubuntu [12:14] Kamping_Kaiser, yes I saw it now when I got back home [12:15] i thought the base wants to install always from cd [12:15] can anyone help me install azureus pls ? [12:15] Window Team? Stupid spammers [12:15] im not sure what it was though ztonzy [12:15] i have to boot expert for that? [12:15] jind, yes that... heh :-\ [12:15] looks as a spammer... === lightboy [~jon@203-219-27-220-bri-ts4-2600.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu === johan_ [~johan@HSE-Montreal-ppp345286.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu === smurfix [~smurf@smurfix.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu [12:16] Let the stupid use win, give me lin [12:16] it was :/ [12:16] jind, ;) [12:16] i hav got my ntfs partition mounted really nicely right BUT i cant write to it... which i can deal with... the trouble is it has my media on it and i want amarok to get all the covers for my cds... and save em [12:17] can n e one help me let amarok write to the drive [12:17] *gasp* ntfs [12:17] lightboy: write to ntfs is experimental and dangerous [12:17] i know... [12:17] lightboy: ntfs captive [12:17] but i dont want to reformat the drive.... yet [12:17] sourceforge project [12:17] check it out === i386 [~james@239-94-185-210.rev.techex.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [12:17] if I choose "smart upgrade" in synaptic, will it upgrade packages that I have locked to a specific version? [12:17] hmm [12:17] jind, when my irc-client seemed to rejoined this channel it was set for "invite only" , was it for those spammers ? [12:18] i dont know if i should bother n just deal with my media like it is [12:18] jind, the channel...was set like that...it seems [12:18] ztonzy: it was set to invite only for a minute so they couldnt rejoin === sobersabre [~bilbo@l192-115-16-116.broadband.actcom.net.il] has joined #ubuntu [12:18] ibuntu thank you [12:18] lightboy: :) [12:18] goldfish, yeah I guessed, good! [12:18] hehe === bruker_ [~bruker@101.80-202-106.nextgentel.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:18] hei === soakki [~aje89@dsl-tregw1qfb.dial.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu [12:19] goldfish: what system are u running? [12:19] em [12:19] Why isn't here any ops? [12:19] there is [12:19] lightboy: what computer i got? [12:19] they are hiding [12:19] sorry, rusty English *arn't* [12:19] np [12:19] there is :) [12:19] they are just not currently opped [12:19] goldfish: yeah.. like im using hoary amd64 with the custom kernel [12:19] How does it work then? [12:20] lightboy: i had stock hoary kernel [12:20] I am used to undernet and efnet [12:20] lightboy: im trying gentoo right now [12:20] goldfish, what about a Chanserv ? [12:20] goldfish: so far which do u prefer? [12:20] Is it like a service on logges on an op is given for the registered one in some sort of database? === egg|new [~leet@218-160-82-184.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #ubuntu === Zotnix [martin@ool-4357361a.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:21] goldfish: I was on FC3 for a while and then FC4 but ubuntu is deffinately my fav so far.. [12:21] goldfish: everything just works [12:21] ztonzy: they can stil use it but its not in the channel [12:21] hi [12:21] goldfish, ok [12:21] goldfish: im even playing halo in cedega... thats spozed to be impossible lol [12:21] lightboy: well, ive just finished installing gentoo, took a while :) [12:21] aye [12:21] hehe, goldfish [12:21] I am amazed how easy it was to install Wacom drivers in Ubuntu [12:21] i got cs 1.6 running on cedega w/ hoary [12:22] I found the default kernel quite buggy as a matter or fact.. perhaps I was unlucky [12:22] yeah same [12:22] that was easy [12:22] ubuntu is really cool though === sobersabre [~bilbo@l192-115-16-116.broadband.actcom.net.il] has joined #ubuntu [12:22] nice & easy for first timers [12:22] yeah its my fav [12:22] It crashed several times a day. A custom kernel fixed it [12:22] fedora was a tank [12:22] hehe [12:22] goldfish, the hard part is the xorg.conf , but I copy/pasted from an old file :) [12:22] goldfish, you mean with steam or without? [12:22] so i've been told === debugger [Rui@217.129.148.164] has joined #ubuntu [12:22] hi [12:22] Kamping_Kaiser: with. [12:22] ztonzy: same :) [12:22] we tried it on a laptop hahaha [12:22] goldfish, works like a breeze :D [12:23] i ran it on my laptop :) [12:23] Yeah! xorg.conf should have seriously much more documentation [12:23] ztonzy: well, i googled for one [12:23] I've just noticed that the boot script do not have the "status" option :/ what is the reason for this? [12:23] jind, that info for wacom is a seperate info... [12:23] I used 3 days to set up dual screen, after gaining bits and pieces scattered over the net to make a proper xorg.conf === ztonzy guesses [12:23] lol [12:23] jind, nvidia or ati ? [12:23] it took me 11 hours to install gentoo :) [12:24] Intel === Ribs [~freenode@riblet.plus.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:24] heh [12:24] ack [12:24] Nvidia and Ati are better [12:24] I know that [12:24] its what they do [12:24] jind: did you try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' ? [12:24] or is it all set up now? [12:25] zZz [12:25] goldfish, that doesnt take care of dual screens :) [12:25] goldfish, yes. dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg didn't know diddely shit about setting up no dual screen === incubii [~incubii@61.68.53.27] has joined #ubuntu [12:25] ah right [12:25] It is set up now [12:25] heh, didnt see the dual bit [12:25] ah, cool === Mr_Smiley [~smiley@CPE-144-136-182-237.sa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [12:26] I miss more unified documentation for xorg and it's drivers and adjustments [12:27] how good does things look with compositing [12:27] It should be centralized, and not based on mailinglists and such, even though it's great to have them in case we cannot find what we're after otherwise === ealden [~ealden@219.90.91.117] has joined #ubuntu [12:27] What's compositing? [12:27] lightboy: www.redbrick.dcu.ie/~goldfish/Screenshot-3.png === telemaco [~telemaco@26.Red-83-34-204.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:27] shadows and everythin [12:27] under windows [12:28] But I need a real graphic card, right? === mz2 [~mz2@81-1-66-209.homechoice.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [12:28] yeah [12:28] Not this intel extreme crap [12:28] goldfish: im checking it out now [12:28] lightboy: thats just transset === djs [~djs@ppp-38-102.grapevine.net.au] has joined #ubuntu === waxhead [~pete@CPE-203-51-25-212.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [12:28] lightboy: what card u got? [12:28] hmm [12:29] goldfish: what terminal are you using? [12:29] eh [12:29] xterm === jfk303 [~james@82-33-9-94.cable.ubr14.newt.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [12:29] goldfish: 5900xt [12:29] how you got the black border around the font? [12:29] goldfish, looking good :) [12:29] lightboy: ah roight, there's a good howto on ubuntuforums [12:29] goldfish: what bout u? [12:30] lightboy: geforce 5550 [12:30] i think === rizla [~rizla@adsl-254-123.37-151.net24.it] has joined #ubuntu [12:30] goldfish: yeah i know ive got it all decked out :P [12:30] cool === ogra [~ogra@p5089E538.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:30] Does anybody know if Ati have done as they promised and made proper linux drivers, or is Nvidia the only right thing to do still? [12:31] afaik only nvida [12:31] Alright. Anyway, Nvidia have OpenGL in hardware. That counts a lot [12:31] black border? [12:31] nvidia + linux = win [12:31] angelsfall: top left? [12:31] ++ [12:31] nvidia + linux = loss of freedom === mindstorm [~darkstar@208.9.114.47] has joined #ubuntu [12:32] y loss of freedom? [12:32] What? [12:32] It's easy to compile nvidia [12:32] y win? I don't want win! I want linux! :D === rizla [~rizla@adsl-254-123.37-151.net24.it] has left #ubuntu ["bella!"] [12:32] hah [12:32] lightboy: nvidia + linux = s*it (IP drivers) [12:32] egg|new: haha [12:32] (but then, it's the same with ati for the most part, but at least older cards have free drivers, and there's active development for newer cards too) [12:33] egg|new, we are talking about their graphic cards, not the mainboards [12:33] i put the proper nvidia ones on and fixed the libgl thing and it works fine for my card [12:33] lightboy: it is [12:33] egg|new: ive seriously had no problem... everythign works... even things that arent suppozed to [12:34] egg|new: like halo [12:34] using Blender and having OpenGL with nvidia is imho for linux still better supported than ati [12:34] goldfish: yes [12:34] angelsfall: emm, no idea :) that's root-tail === DataCaliber [asdas@116.13.205.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:34] I had a problem compiling nvidia in the beginning of my linux time, but now I know all the tricks for my card [12:34] have no experience with ati on linux nor windows so I cant really tell, but what I hear from ati users... [12:35] jind: what card u got? [12:35] goldfish: k :) i havent figured out how it works yet [12:35] I am happy I have stucked with nvidia so far ;) [12:35] I belive in Nvidia for linux. Unified drivers and OpenGL in hardware. That makes it a true linux card [12:35] me2 [12:35] A old nvidia tnt2 m64 [12:35] angelsfall: i googled for some script to get it working for xfce [12:36] actually, it's not even a true linux card. It works only on CPU architectures that nvidia wants to support. [12:36] haha cool :P [12:36] Linux != x86(-64) === snader [~sander@cc207153-b.groni1.gr.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu [12:36] goldfish: thanx for the tip. anyway, i use rxvt because of the less resource usage [12:36] There isn't any good 3d card with opensource drivers [12:36] goldfish: xterm: 3mb rxvt: 1mb :) [12:36] angelsfall: ah right, aterm is really cool. [12:36] aye [12:36] aapelii, that's pretty much true, sadly [12:37] i use aterm now with fluxbox. [12:37] it's nice. [12:37] try blender, whole UI is drawned using opengl ;) [12:37] But nvidia has good drivers [12:37] aapelii, hopefully the r300 project at sourceforge matures quickly; it's promising already [12:37] goldfish: i use rxvt with ion ;) [12:37] does it hax the system === ubotu [~blootbot@ubuntu.cc.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [12:37] angelsfall: hehe, never heard of ion :) rxvt is nice [12:37] mjr: The opensource 3d card? [12:38] what is ion and rxvt? [12:38] rxvt is a terminal [12:38] ion is a wm? [12:38] yes [12:38] aapelii, nope, just free drivers for the newer radeons [12:38] As long as those who are making drivers know what they do and take responsibility for it, it may be closed if the marked require so [12:38] aapelii, I'm not putting much hope in the open card, though it'd be nice [12:38] search with google for ion, must be the first entry === simder [~sebastian@p54B7B76E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu [12:38] mjr: ok, that sounds more realistic than the open card === naiad [~kmfdm@dsl553-1-86.dsl.ucc-net.ca] has joined #ubuntu === naiad [~kmfdm@dsl553-1-86.dsl.ucc-net.ca] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:39] yep [12:39] and their latest release is called "the_perfect_frag" ;) [12:39] Hey, I removed my graphics card, reconfigured (onboard graphics) and restarted gdm. But now my screen does'nt look that great, and the refresh rate only goes up to 60? I think I ust have misconfigured it (I had to choose 'Generic Graphics Card') how can I work out what settings to use? e.g. what is y graphics card (chip) etc? [12:39] s/release/snapshot/ === paulproteus [~paulprote@h-67-102-97-191.mclnva23.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:40] m key doesnt work properly, sorry [12:40] jfk303, which card? [12:40] yeah, how can I find out? === voth [~voth@adsl-67-64-140-98.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:40] jind, its onboard [12:40] jfk303: lspci might help [12:40] lspci and google [12:40] ok === ChinaCatJones [~chris@pool-71-111-176-217.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:40] google is evil [12:41] no its not === raDeon [~nvidia@cpe-24-161-104-163.hvc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === lionel_ [~lionel@10.21.96-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:41] jfk303, I understand that. But that kind of detail level doesn't help anybody here help you [12:42] is n e one in here a bit of a pro at setting up samba shared so ppl can actually access them in windows? [12:42] ok, sorry I'm trying my best... does lspci get the info from the actual hardware? Or from the settings you provided it? [12:42] from hw [12:43] From hardware as the kernel sees it [12:43] anyone know how ati's driver for their 9000 stack against the one's used in Ubuntu (default installation)? [12:43] how can I known if my system is using nptl? [12:43] lightboy: not tried it yet, im sure there is a howto on ubuntuforums.org, also ubuntuguide.org might be useful. [12:44] debugger, if you're using ubuntu hoary, yes it is [12:44] debugger, if you're using ubuntu warty / amd64, no it isn't [12:44] can I show you my output from lspci? In chnnel flood? [12:44] nope [12:44] jfk303: pastebin, #flood. [12:44] debugger, if you want to test for it in a program, try creating a thread and seeing if getpid returns the same in both threads (there might be a cleaner way to do it, I dunno) [12:44] anybody know what is the state of breezy? [12:45] aapelii: topic :) [12:45] mjr, but how can I check? in gentoo we could execute libc, and it showed what options are compiled in, but here I cant do that :( [12:45] jfk303: message it to me if u want.... [12:45] whats breezy? [12:45] is there anyone here who's playing wow through cedega without problems? [12:45] iBuntu: next ubuntu to be released [12:45] coo [12:45] goldfish, where are the plans for it? the release state and stuff? === Xenguy [~gnu@xenarchy.ca] has joined #ubuntu [12:46] any when will that be [12:46] debugger, you should be able to execute it if you just give it the execute permission [12:46] (I think) [12:46] mjr: eh? I'm 99% sure amd64 warty was nptl === seraphiel [~seraphiel@72.80-203-85.nextgentel.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:46] is there any point to test it out? Is it usable? [12:46] oh, you ca'nt [12:46] sorry ;) [12:46] debugger: em, october i think is release date, the topic will tell you the state :) [12:46] bob2, I'm 99% sure it hadn't when I ran it [12:46] mjr, nope, it can't be executed. [12:46] jfk303: em, just /msg it to me [12:46] debugger, yep, must've been an earlier recollection [12:46] what`s the diff between ubuntu and debian unstable? === ChinaCatJones [~chris@pool-71-111-176-217.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:47] goldfish, I'm new to irc [12:47] ubuntu is based on debain unstable, i think? [12:47] jfk303: ok [12:47] how? [12:47] GO BROOKLYN!!!! [12:47] goldfish, correct === TiffOn [user@218.Red-217-126-197.pooles.rima-tde.net] has left #ubuntu [] [12:47] goldfish, where in the topic is that? [12:47] mjr: :) [12:47] debugger: /topic [12:48] arent they just 2 different repositories? [12:48] Nee, time for breakfast [12:48] Later folks [12:48] or i could tell you what it says, PLEASE PLEASE DONT USE BREEZY [12:48] seraphiel: it's frozen and stabilised for months, then released [12:48] goldfish, well, I can see the topic... I don't see anything related to the state of the new version. [12:48] ubuntu is forked off of debian unstable, then ubuntu patches may be applied if necessary from the earlier ubuntu run, then it's stabilized and customized [12:48] debugger: don'tt use breezy [12:48] debugger: well it says dont use breezy, so... [12:48] possibly adding some parts like a newer gnome [12:48] jeebus.. are you guys reading what I'm askin???? [12:48] TIRED OF MALE BASHING JOKES - My wife and I are inseparable. In fact, last week it took four state troopers and a dog. [12:48] mjr: -devel [12:48] when will ubuntu with the new debian version released? [12:49] would i need to patch a fresh kernel with a ubuntu patch? === kori[idiot] [~kori@212.39.73.142] has joined #ubuntu [12:49] angelsfall: that's not how it works [12:49] wtf was that windows team shit? [12:49] bob2: who does it work? [12:49] kori[idiot] : idiot spammers [12:49] jfk303: do u see a tab there with my nick on it? [12:49] khm. [12:49] angelsfall: ubuntu branches from debian unstable, not stable [12:49] we hate em. === Jeremy_D [~Jeremy_D@203-206-228-112.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu === kori[idiot] is now known as kafeine [12:49] bob2, well, I thought it was appropriate to answer a question here, but I shan't go further with that :) [12:49] mjr: oh, you're not there...anyway, amd64 didn't ever have linuxthreads. [12:50] bob2: so? [12:50] i am using amd64 [12:50] bob2, ah. Well. I'm perplexed, then. [12:50] egg|new: ? [12:50] I'm on amd64 [12:50] bob2: unstable? [12:50] yay for amd64 woo :P [12:50] egg|new: I don't know what you're asking me [12:50] bob2: ah i see. is there a new debian unstable? [12:50] there is a new stable [12:50] bob2: ... [12:50] angelsfall: debian unstable has been continuously updated [12:50] 'course, I can't test anymore (easily, anyway), but I think it did. But hey, it's not that big a deal; at least we're up to NPTL now [12:51] egg|new: you started talking to me, and I don't know what you're talking about [12:51] i need help with script [12:51] i want to redirect input into yppasswd from script via << EOF [12:51] it doesn't work. [12:51] mjr, can you take a peek here: http://gentoo-wiki.com/NPTL ? in gentoo I can just execute /lib/libc.so.6 to see the options. [12:51] hmmm. [12:51] how can i debug ? [12:52] sobersabre: #bash [12:52] goldfish: hows gentoo goin? [12:52] sobersabre: maybe... [12:52] bob2: but got it a new name? like sid? [12:52] goldfish, hmm... good point [12:52] angelsfall: unstable is always called sid, that does not change [12:52] sobersabre: :) [12:52] debugger, yes, I remember being able to do that too, that's why I thought you could with Ubuntu also [12:52] sobersabre: very good channel [12:52] lightboy: trying to get X up and running. [12:52] debugger, anyway, I dunno why it doesn't work [12:53] it hasn't reliably worked for a long long time === allio [foobar@202-169-215-101.megapass.worldnet.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu [12:53] goldfish: are they XFREE86 or X.ORG [12:53] debugger, but anyway, as said, you have nptl with ubuntu [12:53] lightboy: xorg [12:53] goldfish: cool [12:53] mjr, well, I've read that too. just wanted to check ;) [12:54] bob2: wasnt sid before testing? [12:54] debugger, then you can do that small getpid program test ;) [12:54] angelsfall: no === wazquis [~akv@lnxbx.dk] has joined #ubuntu [12:54] angelsfall: sid has always been unstable [12:54] bob2: now i'm confused [12:54] hi, anyone got experience running a raid1 with ubuntu? [12:54] wazquis, yep, the installer set it up like a charm [12:54] bob2: i tought woody was stable, sid testing and sarge unstable [12:54] wazquis: if you mean "software raid-1", best to mention that in your question... [12:55] angelsfall: no, that's never been true. woody = stable, sarge = testing, sid = unstable , up until yesterday [12:55] bob2, no, hardware...some evil server :) [12:55] wazquis: on hardware you don't need to care [12:55] wazquis: ubuntu only sees one disk [12:55] bob2: okay. now is sarge=stable, sid=unstable and ?=testing ? :) [12:55] angelsfall: etch=testing [12:56] hm...then the server might not be correctly setup...ok (never used raid before) [12:56] angelsfall: @@ === ChinaCatJones [~chris@pool-71-111-176-217.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:57] bob2: now i got it :) so unstable is the most unsafe release? [12:57] angelsfall: yes === othernoob [~othernoob@p54A2CC1F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:57] testing,unstable,stable [12:57] bob2: fine. thank you for your support! === ivoks [~ivoks@backup.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu [12:57] angelsfall: there's an additional suite called experimental that contains other, possibly more dangerous things, but it's not a complete distribution [12:57] angelsfall: Debian gets its release names from the Toy Story movie. Sid was the kid who destroys toys. Hence unstable. Always unstable. [12:57] sid,sarge,woody [12:57] well, there are also experimental packages that you can put on top of the unstable release, but those do not comprise a release of their own so the above is still true :) [12:58] hummm, vim on ubuntu does not do syntax hilight? :/ === n3C [~n3C@klik27.klik.bydgoszcz.pl] has joined #ubuntu [12:58] debugger: sure it does [12:58] debugger: :syntax on === sinope [~sinope@sinope.user] has left #ubuntu [] [12:58] I've opened a python file (.py), and it appear black and white :/ [12:58] debugger: just eyecandy... [12:58] eyecandy is nice :) [12:58] hey, my screen res changed to 640*480 in kde, even though i did nothing but reboot. how can i change it back ? === boglot [chaas@gw.workaround.org] has joined #ubuntu === sinope [~sinope@bur-jud-175-002.rh.uchicago.edu] has joined #ubuntu [12:59] egg|new, what? [12:59] djs: yes i know where the names came from. but thank you for the description, didnt know that! === sobersabre [~bilbo@l192-115-16-116.broadband.actcom.net.il] has joined #ubuntu [12:59] bob2, why doesn't it do that by default? :| [12:59] what is breezy? [01:00] lightboy: next release of ubuntu [01:00] lightboy: the development branch of ubuntu, which is not ready for normal users yet [01:00] debugger: file a bug if you'd like it changed === Tomcat__ [~Tomcat@vpn2-dynip72.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de] has joined #ubuntu [01:00] I've installed a program using ./configure && make && make install, how do I removed it now? === nix [~nix@193.19.223.136] has joined #ubuntu [01:00] goldfish: wow already? this one has only been round since april [01:00] stimpie: you can't, in general [01:01] lightboy: it's released every 6 months. [01:01] stimpie: "make uninstall" might work [01:01] goldfish: yeah true but i didnt think they had a test release yet i thought that it was at least a month away === jfk303 [~james@82-33-9-94.cable.ubr14.newt.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [01:02] bob2, worked perfectly [01:02] lightboy: the development branch opens up almost immediately after a release [01:02] lightboy: it's been there since hoary was released [01:02] sorry [01:02] cool [01:02] bob2 answered your question already :) [01:02] hehe [01:03] wonder if visually it will be better? [01:03] hmmm === podge [~podge@adsl-143-75.swiftdsl.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [01:03] get eye candy if u want better visuals [01:03] and get rid of gnome :) [01:03] im happy with the visuals.. i would just be interested to see what happens next [01:04] i like gnome [01:04] ah right [01:04] i hate it [01:04] i liked it too, until i tried xfce and fluxbox. [01:04] hav n e of u seen what that guy was working on for the 3d windowing system [01:04] that was sooo cool === podge [~podge@adsl-143-75.swiftdsl.com.au] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [01:05] sun have a 3d desktop dont they? [01:05] i hav only seen like version 3. something of xfce [01:05] goldfish, yeah [01:05] i dont know [01:05] lightboy: xfce4 is sweet === sinope [~sinope@sinope.user] has joined #ubuntu [01:05] lookingglass [01:05] *runs to check out xfce4* === sijp is now known as sijp- === lesshaste [~lesshaste@lesshaste.plus.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:05] lightboy: new fluxbox is cool too, takes a little while to set it up nicely though [01:05] i386: thanks. === TongMaster [~TongMaste@home.waugh.id.au] has joined #ubuntu [01:06] hmmm [01:06] i will look into these haha :P [01:06] :) [01:06] lightboy: that screenshot i gave you was xfce4 [01:06] ahhh [01:06] Latest soad album rocks. [01:06] looks pretty much like gnome the way u hav it === slav3 [~hugo@213.63.134.225] has joined #ubuntu === ChinaCatJones [~chris@pool-71-111-176-217.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:07] lightboy: :) [01:07] bye! :) [01:07] goldfish: i love soad [01:07] me too === digitus [~asdfmann@dsl-084-056-242-244.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:07] radio/video is mad [01:07] I saw them at ozzfest over here, had mosh-pit passes. [01:07] goldfish, pfft [01:07] it sucks man [01:07] i386: which? [01:07] I cant belive they let Darren sing [01:07] are u in aus? [01:07] i386: oh. [01:07] lightboy: ireland [01:07] new soad album [01:08] who cares i386 he is pretty good [01:08] i386: i thought it sucked too, it grew on me though. [01:08] he sounds like a backstreet boy on crack [01:08] i386: haha [01:08] Man I saw them in concert [01:08] haha yeah [01:08] they were fucking awesome [01:08] yeah === podge [~podge@adsl-143-75.swiftdsl.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [01:08] it was good tho [01:08] hopefully they come here again on the next tour, they are amazing live. === d3bian [~d3bian@164M36.oasis.mediatti.net] has joined #ubuntu === no0tic [~no0tic@host126-85.pool8255.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [01:09] windows longhorn has a BSOD and a RED SCREEN OF DEATH now [01:09] I saw them in jan, just after Cigaro leaked onto the net [01:09] lol [01:09] lightboy: bsod? [01:09] i386: cool [01:09] and being a cult follower, I already knew the song :P [01:09] Pretty happy. I am now running Ubuntu on my Sun Ray 150.. [01:09] i386: hehe [01:09] and at that time i was pretty sunburnt [01:09] where can I find changelogs in updated packages? [01:09] blue screen of death [01:09] and screaming the words of "forest" [01:09] what happens wen windows kills itself lol === smokey [~smokey@101.80-202-106.nextgentel.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:10] lightboy: ah yes, im all to familiar with the blue screen :) whats this red screen joke about? === seby [~seby@p54A25790.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:10] podge, rock. you built the packages for it? [01:11] um its apparently a part of longhorn === othernoob [~othernoob@p54A2CC1F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:11] lightboy: ah [01:11] a friend of mine got a screenshot form somewhere [01:11] hang on ill get the url [01:12] lightboy: sweet === allio [foobar@202-169-215-101.megapass.worldnet.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu [01:14] the basterd wont get me the url... [01:14] :/ [01:14] i'll try google === scanwinder [~caleb736@CPE-60-224-215-12.wa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [01:15] i386: Sun ships Sun Ray Software for Linux.. there are some instructions on how to get it working on Ubuntu.. [01:16] i386: I got some second hand units off ebay.. and I will put them in different rooms in the house.. not bad at all.. === rosemary [~rosemary@203.99.21.94] has joined #ubuntu === Echylo [~echylo@84-179.245.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu [01:17] I'm looking at ubuntu live - what's the root passward to set things? [01:17] what dev name does ubuntu give tv tuners?.......scantv is defaulting to /dev/vbi [01:17] rosemary: root doesn't have a password.. [01:17] rosemary, there isn't any. Ubuntu is based on sudo -s for a root shell === Seveas [~seveas@ksl403-uva-154.wireless.uva.nl] has joined #ubuntu [01:17] jind: :) [01:18] :-) [01:18] podge: I want to try configure network in 'live' to see if it works - permission denied [01:18] jind: see above please [01:18] I haven't used sudo === Z_eze [~ws008@202.95.133.18] has joined #ubuntu === Z_eze [~ws008@202.95.133.18] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [01:20] installer is installing grub, but nothing happens, cause no cd in drive, how can i abort the grub install? [01:21] are tv tuners /dev/video0? === nihao [~nihao@218.109.127.216] has joined #ubuntu === sijp [~sijp@DSL217-132-176-20.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu === |conoclast [iconoclast@203.184.27.101] has joined #ubuntu === lesshaste [~lesshaste@lesshaste.plus.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [01:23] mjr, hummm, doing a quick python program, getpid always retuns the same id. [01:24] rosemary, what's the problem? === paulfox [~paul@host81-138-210-156.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:24] You cannot login as root with sudo -s? === azol [artem@217.168.67.221] has joined #ubuntu [01:25] jind: well not a roblem I guess - in antipation of installing ubuntu, trying the live CD, and thought would be good exercise to try configure network === johan__ [~johan@toronto-HSE-ppp4019183.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu === leonel [~leonel@201.135.44.10] has joined #ubuntu === miscz [~miscz@amy134.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu [01:26] rosemary, I see. But just so you know. Ubuntu is really strong detecting network devices and setting them up with dhcp [01:26] rosemary: try "sudo bash" [01:26] That is totally automatic === wangdl [~breezy@cm41.epsilon201.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu [01:26] djs/rosemary do not do that [01:26] try sudo -i [01:27] im off peoples... its been great :P hav a good night or day or watever the time is :P [01:27] when I try to run ipconf eth0 192.167.1.2 it tells me permission denied === yccheok [~yccheok@60.48.167.217] has joined #ubuntu [01:27] rosemary, it's ifconfig, and you need to run it with sudo [01:27] and the privat address space is 192.168.*.* [01:27] not 167 === Chameleon22 [~serg@60-240-237-137-vic-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [01:28] rosemary, so it would be: sudo ifconfig eth0 address 192.168.1.2 [01:28] in CLI as root or user === |conoclast [iconoclast@203.184.27.101] has left #ubuntu ["My] [01:28] rosemary, as normal user [01:28] sudo will tell it to run with root privileges [01:29] okay brb thanks [01:29] Seveas, are there much difference in sudo -s and sudo -i? [01:29] jind a lot [01:30] When should I use -i and when should I use -s? [01:30] sudo -i gives you a login shell (which means that the USER and HOME environment variables are set correctly) === Safari_Al [~tr@ppp241-50.lns2.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:30] jind, always use -i unless you have a very specific reason not to [01:30] Seveas: "sudo bash" not good? [01:30] djs, no, that will neither make it a true root shell [01:30] how do i run a *.sh file in the konsole ? [01:30] okay that has worked - cursor to prompt [01:31] othernoob, ./filename.sh [01:31] othernoob, or if it is not executable: bash filename.sh [01:31] Seveas, thanks. I have always used -s. I haven't got any time to spare to read man pages. So you giving me this small explonation is appreciated [01:31] :-) [01:31] Seveas: Thanks from me also. [01:31] jind, you should read manpages though, never blindly trust a stranger from irc ;) === jmjones [~jmjones@adsl-215-156-183.aep.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu === cart [~samuel@200.150.139.248] has joined #ubuntu === _aims is now known as aims [01:33] Seveas, sure. If in doubt. But I trust that sudo does not do any damage. I know the basics of couse. But if in doubt, sure. [01:33] :) === Seveas g2g now [01:34] how do i find out which xorg or xfree version i use ? [01:35] Where can i find the security notices? The /support/Security in ubuntulinux.org doesn't have nothing... === paulproteus [~paulprote@h-67-102-97-191.mclnva23.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu === UsefulIdiot [~jeremy@210-11-145-185.netspeed.com.au] has joined #ubuntu === srockett [~srockett@CPE0011097dafa9-CM00e06f1b4b12.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu === srockett is now known as Rockett17 === ChinaCatJones [~chris@pool-71-111-176-217.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu === mcmahonm [~mcmahonm@CPE000d88983755-CM000f9fa625ca.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:37] what is windows? [01:37] arrrrg. I think there's a memory leak or something.. my comp has been on for a while asa server (a few days) and no programs have been started, except being logged in and using a few command line programs via screen and ssh.. and it just crawls.. [01:37] mcm: A hole in the wall [01:38] almost no memory free according to top, but no programs show that they are using very much memory === ernstp [~ernstp@k13d217-2.kam.afb.lu.se] has joined #ubuntu === kamstrup [~kamstrup@0x3e42da90.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu === __Ace__ [~love@h55l211.delphi.afb.lu.se] has joined #ubuntu === doko_ [~doko___@dsl-084-059-045-032.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu === othernoob [~othernoob@p54A2DD45.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu === bhna [~andreas@p54B82D29.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu === kadambi [~kadambi@61.246.60.51] has joined #ubuntu === ChinaCatJones [~chris@pool-71-111-176-217.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu === calc [~ccheney@ip70-185-4-246.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:48] mjr, woah... even a C program returns the same id... :/ [01:48] debugger, that's a sign of nptl being used instead of the older linuxthreads === sijp is now known as klvnv44 [01:49] mjr, maybe I'm doing something wrong... by ldd shows that my binary is linked against /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libpthread.so.0 [01:50] mjr, http://pastebin.com/297014 [01:50] need help here,when i try to open a folder that i shared on the network via SMB, a password is asked [01:50] debugger, why do you think you're doing something wrong? [01:50] try my password and login, does not work [01:50] what username/pass do i have to fill in there? === tvelocity [~tony@ipa21.0.tellas.gr] has joined #ubuntu [01:51] debugger, getpid() is _supposed_ to return the same value for all threads by the posix spec; NPTL does this so, and the older LinuxThreads didn't (in violation of the standard) === andred [~andre@c-257173d5.012-245-6c756c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu === lurah|off is now known as lurah [01:51] mjr, because, if ubuntu uses nptl by default, and you said, getpid() should return a different number for each thread.. then I'm doing something wrong hehe [01:51] ah, a misunderstanding then; it's the other way aroudn [01:51] maybe I was vague [01:52] mjr, I'm confused! [01:52] don't be, be happy [01:52] mjr, how should I code a simple test to see if my system has nptl? === andred [~andre@c-257173d5.012-245-6c756c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [01:53] little help here? [01:53] kev0r: try setting one for your ubuntu user account using smbpasswd [01:53] no just slow a slow typist [01:53] :) [01:53] debugger, that code you showed will do just fine (if you're trying to determine NPTL versus LinuxThreads) === ealden [~ealden@219.90.91.117] has joined #ubuntu [01:53] smbpasswd? [01:53] ok :) [01:54] trying :P [01:54] mjr, so, ubuntu is not using nptl after all??? [01:54] mjr, but it has a /lib/tls directory :| === psychonate [~psychonat@pcp02819902pcs.lwrswt01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:54] debugger, it _is_ using nptl, and you getting the same getpid() results in each thread is how nptl is _supposed_ to work [01:54] mjr, ah! [01:54] djs: machine 127.0.0.1 rejected the (anonymous) password change: Error was : Account disabled. [01:55] Failed to change password for kev0r [01:55] mjr, so whats the function that returns the threadid? [01:55] hmm... [01:55] mjr, if you known from top of your head ;) [01:56] djs: any clues? === ChinaCatJones [~chris@pool-71-111-176-217.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu === Mez [~mez@82-36-228-130.cable.ubr01.perr.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [01:56] kev0r: still looking ... stand by ... [01:56] o_O === A[D] minS [~Whisky@196.204.237.130] has joined #ubuntu [01:57] I got kicked out athis channel cause it was being spammed [01:57] debugger, I don't; gettid? === UsefulIdiot [~jeremy@210-11-145-185.netspeed.com.au] has left #ubuntu [] [01:57] Guest27494 Windows Team ... Windows Team ... Windows Team ... Windows Team ... Windows Team ... Windows Team ... Windows Team ... Windows Team ... Windows Team ... Windows Team ... Windows Team ... Windows Team ... Windows Team ... [01:57] * Disconnected (Remote host closed socket). [01:57] kev0r: sudo smbpasswd -a [01:58] worx [01:58] much love <3 [01:58] debugger, http://users.du.se/~hjo/realtime/manuals/posix-threads/uguide/users-22.htm#325897 === [[Abeliko] ] [~invitado@107.Red-83-44-134.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:59] <[[Abeliko] ] > hi [01:59] oh wait, "this function is not portable" [01:59] <[[Abeliko] ] > alguien me puede echar una mano [01:59] <[[Abeliko] ] > someone can help me :D [01:59] mjr, yeah, its lin specific hehe [01:59] debugger, rather, pthread_self() [02:00] <[[Abeliko] ] > ok [02:00] [[Abeliko] ] , with what? === jjesse [~jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:00] <[[Abeliko] ] > y have a touch pad, but isnt a ps2 touch pad is is integrated on my portatil [02:00] y jes478SE === bwlang [~bwlang@bb-66-55-211-238.gwi.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:00] <[[Abeliko] ] > y can run it with ubuntu [02:01] <[[Abeliko] ] > how can i run it? === LMX [~LMX@h244n1c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:02] mjr, pthread_getthreadid_np is not avail on linux *G* === ilba7r [~ilba7r@d141-64-4.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:03] debugger, yes, as I said it's not portable : [02:04] mjr, ah, I thought you were talkbing about the linux gettid [02:05] debugger, ah; yep, no. Anyway, third time's a charm, pthread_self is really the correct one ;) === ChinaCatJones [~chris@pool-71-111-176-217.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:05] mjr, oh, but pthread_self is an opaque value, not an int hehe [02:05] err returns an opaque value === ztonzy [~ztonzy@ztonzy.artist.blender] has joined #ubuntu === andred [~andre@c-257173d5.012-245-6c756c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu === andred [~andre@c-257173d5.012-245-6c756c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [02:08] hi, I am back ^-^ === ztonzy [~ztonzy@ztonzy.artist.blender] has joined #ubuntu === jmjones [~jmjones@adsl-215-156-183.aep.bellsouth.net] has left #ubuntu [] === julo [~julien@AToulouse-151-1-61-159.w81-250.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu [02:10] hi [02:11] I am looking for a small program which lets me write in a message, like a postit and set a repeating sound alarm as it shows up with the text as a reminder, each hour [02:12] Does anybody know of such a program? === DataPulse [asdas@116.13.205.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:12] d3bian: i have got multisync working with my k700i mobile. however the last time i multisynced, contact details were deleted from my k700i. not all of them but a few... any ideas why? [02:12] Like the postit in gnome, but with a repeating alarm every hour === ztonzy [~ztonzy@ztonzy.artist.blender] has joined #ubuntu === adnans [~adnans@noterik.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu [02:12] Please, I need it.. [02:13] i have got multisync working with my k700i mobile. however the last time i multisynced, contact details were deleted from my k700i. not all of them but a few... any ideas why? === mikl [~mikkel@mikl.active.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu === Hajuu [~Hajuu@dip-220-235-41-82.wa.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [02:13] hiya === Demian__ is now known as Demian [02:14] Im using wine and trying to install Warcraft 3.. but it says windows 95 isnt supported.. how can I make it think im using a higher grade of windows? (98 or above) === roos [~roos@212.9.250.54.iptelecom.net.ua] has joined #ubuntu === Echylo [~echylo@84-179.245.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu [02:15] Hajuu: run "winesetup" [02:15] I don't know if WC3 works in Wine. [02:16] I know it works in Cedega, but I don't know about Wine. [02:16] psychonate: It will [02:16] no it doesnt but it works in cedega [02:16] but cedega isnt for installing stuff [02:16] um [02:16] ...alright === moyogo [~moyogo@69.156.160.45] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [02:17] Hajuu: you can't install it in wine and then use it in cedega (in an easy way), you CAN install it using cedega. [02:17] please help [02:17] /usr/local/bin/meinproc --check --cache index.cache.bz2 /home/roos/myfirst/doc/en/index.docbook [02:17] gmake[2] : Nothing to be done for `all-am'. [02:17] gmake[1] : *** [all-recursive] Error 1 [02:17] gmake: *** [all] Error 2 [02:17] *** Exited with status: 2 *** [02:17] But using grapevine (free) or Point2Play (not free, comes with cedega) is even easier === ztonzy [~ztonzy@ztonzy.artist.blender] has joined #ubuntu [02:18] my kdedevel shows [02:19] mmm cedega is all screwy [02:19] ill try doing it natively with wine [02:19] Hajuu: how do you plan to play it in cedega if you install it with wine? === roos [~roos@212.9.250.54.iptelecom.net.ua] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [02:20] How do you mean? [02:20] Warcraft 3 doesnt even need registry entries or anything.. === podge [~podge@adsl-143-75.swiftdsl.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [02:20] yes it does [02:20] wine/cedega has to fake them [02:20] no, it doesn't. [02:20] I am certain of it. [02:20] You try to install it in WINE but then use it in cedega... They don't use the same fake_windows folder. [02:21] If you install it wine, the entries are added to wine's fake registry. If you install it in Cedega, the entries are added to Cedega's fake registry. [02:21] I understand [02:21] But you ignored what I said. [02:21] It doesnt require the registry entries. [02:21] hajuu, i would be verry supprised if thats the case [02:21] but i dont have the game [02:22] Hajuu, oh? What is this: ~/.transgaming.system.reg [02:22] It is. I used to copy it across my windows network and play it on computers completely free of its registry entries. [02:22] psychonate: I am not alking about cedega doesnt need its registry. I am saying the game doesn't. === alper [~alper@85.101.103.74] has joined #ubuntu === nihao [~nihao@218.109.127.216] has joined #ubuntu [02:23] I don't know abou that, but I do know that you cannot install a game via wine and then play that game in Cedega === DNAku-san [~DNA-otaku@dD5767493.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu === Pithlit [~BAKA@BSN-77-124-157.dsl.siol.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:24] hi === martinhj [~martinhj@host-81-191-103-214.bluecom.no] has joined #ubuntu [02:24] Why? if it doesnt need the registry, what other logical reason is there for it not to work? === trig [~trig@host169-177.pool8249.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [02:25] Why would it not need registry entries? [02:25] *sigh* [02:25] hi [02:25] Hajuu: You have to atleast move it [02:25] hi [02:25] I'd like to know if there's any reason what-so-ever I can't burn the liveCD image (not the install)? [02:25] Wine/Cedega emulates Windows; Windows uses a registry. [02:25] no [02:25] can anyone help me im tring to install a .deb binarie file [02:25] psychonate: No idea. Maybe it doesn't trust windows heh [02:25] i cant remember the command [02:26] I can even see a system.reg and user.reg [02:26] i think i have a dependency problem... i have posted however i fail to receive a solution yet... when i try to install mp3 support.. coz of a dependency problem as it seems coz of fglrz-control.. it fails to install [02:26] here is the out put [02:26] sudo apt-get install fglrx-control [02:26] Reading package lists... Done [02:26] Building dependency tree... Done [02:26] fglrx-control is already the newest version. [02:26] 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. [02:26] 1 not fully installed or removed. [02:26] Need to get 0B of archives. [02:26] After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used. [02:26] And I know CD keys are stored in one of those (I believe in system.reg) [02:26] Setting up ttf-indic-fonts (0.3.7ubuntu1) ... [02:26] dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute post-installation script: Exec format errordpkg: error processing ttf-indic-fonts (--configure): [02:26] subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2 [02:26] Errors were encountered while processing: [02:26] ttf-indic-fonts [02:26] E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) [02:27] good god [02:27] Way to flood === dhewg [~dhewg@dsl-084-059-140-162.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:27] alper, your install of fglrx-control is fine [02:28] "fglrx-control is already the newest version." [02:28] so what shall i do... [02:28] trig dpkg [02:28] I have no idea why it can't setup ttf-indic-fonts though === zxy [~ralph@host-84-9-34-77.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:28] i keep getting this error.. and coz of that i cant install almost anythong.. really desperate in here === ari_ [~ari@GMCMI.dsl.saunalahti.fi] has joined #ubuntu [02:28] however, like I said, you rinstall of fglrx-control is fine at least === jiyuu0 [~jiyuu0@219.95.210.108] has joined #ubuntu === Demian is now known as Demian__ [02:29] alper, are you sure that error is really affecting you. fglrx-control is installed === Demian__ is now known as Dem1an === Dem1an is now known as Demian__ [02:29] alper, I suppose you could just uninstall ttf-indic-fonts if you really don't need it. Then it would probably stop trying to configure it. [02:30] i tried that.. but it fails.. [02:30] What does it say? [02:30] so... noone knows? [02:31] how would i uninstall over terminal... i am new to linux.. and its a bit pitty that i am facing that problem on start,...except that i loved ubuntu.. and fabolous how it works over my x1030 compaw laptop [02:31] Pithlit, does it give an error? [02:31] would i msg u in private psych [02:31] alper apt-get remove [02:32] alper, have your run apt-get -f install? [02:32] alper, better off staying in channel because I haven't been using Ubuntu for that long either === tony__ [~tony@mail.tonsyl.org] has joined #ubuntu [02:32] what does -f comments stands for [02:32] in this case fix [02:32] usualy force [02:32] u mean reinstalling indic fonts [02:32] psychonate: no... k3b burns it and fails on read. nero (on win) just spews out a crc error [02:32] k [02:32] so my contact list in skpe contains no users. [02:33] i`ll do that over root terminal now [02:33] yehp [02:33] and I tried getting the isos from 3 mirrors, burning them to 5 different CD's [02:33] pithlit, have you checked the md5sum? [02:34] sudo apt-get -f install ttf-indic-fonts [02:34] Reading package lists... Done [02:34] Building dependency tree... Done [02:34] ttf-indic-fonts is already the newest version. [02:34] 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. [02:34] 1 not fully installed or removed. [02:34] Need to get 0B of archives. [02:34] After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used. [02:34] Setting up ttf-indic-fonts (0.3.7ubuntu1) ... [02:34] Kamping_Kaiser: yes (hence K3B does it automatically) they check out fine [02:34] dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute post-installation script: Exec format errordpkg: error processing ttf-indic-fonts (--configure): [02:34] subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2 [02:34] alper, without the package name [02:34] Errors were encountered while processing: [02:34] ttf-indic-fonts [02:34] just "apt-get -f install" === goldfish [~nldlsjdlk@carbon.redbrick.dcu.ie] has joined #ubuntu === regeya [~shane@adsl-sp3-cdale176.micgi.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:35] same happened [02:35] same error === DXT [linux@DSL217-132-50-236.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu === golanz [~golan@host228-84.pool8173.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu === Xabbu| [~freddie@h43n2fls34o945.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:37] ok === scanwinder [~caleb736@CPE-60-224-215-12.wa.bigpond.net.au] has left #ubuntu [] [02:37] so your command was without the package name? [02:37] any one know if i can get wine on kubuntu 86_64 [02:38] trig, a 32bit version [02:38] no 64 afaik [02:38] 64 would be kinda useless anyway [02:38] yeh [02:38] yeah [02:38] but its trendy [02:38] apt-get -f install [02:38] a 32 ver [02:38] Reading package lists... Done [02:38] Building dependency tree... Done [02:38] 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. [02:38] 1 not fully installed or removed. [02:38] Need to get 0B of archives. [02:38] After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used. [02:38] Setting up ttf-indic-fonts (0.3.7ubuntu1) ... [02:38] dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute post-installation script: Exec format errordpkg: error processing ttf-indic-fonts (--configure): [02:38] subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2 [02:38] Errors were encountered while processing: [02:38] lol that's about it.. x86-64xp but every ap you run is 32 [02:38] ttf-indic-fonts [02:38] E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) [02:39] so its a dpkg problem... for sure [02:39] as seen no package name/// [02:39] crimsun, you around by any chance? === wangdl [~breezy@cm41.epsilon201.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu [02:39] can you type "apt-cache show ttf-indic-fonts" for me alper? === nfs02 [~nfs02@202.153.240.170] has joined #ubuntu [02:39] kamping... what would i do now :) i start worrying ? [02:39] and put in IN PASTEBIN [02:39] sure [02:39] the output will be big [02:40] apt-cache show ttf-indic-fonts [02:40] Package: ttf-indic-fonts [02:40] Priority: optional [02:40] Section: x11 [02:40] Installed-Size: 1384 [02:40] Maintainer: Soumyadip Modak [02:40] Architecture: all [02:40] im i kubuntu but unlike synaptic i cant search for binaries [02:40] Version: 1:0.3.7ubuntu1 [02:40] Depends: defoma [02:40] Recommends: ttf-malayalam-fonts, ttf-tamil-fonts, ttf-bangla-fonts [02:40] *sigh* [02:40] Suggests: xserver-xfree86 | xserver | xfs, x-ttcidfont-conf [02:40] Filename: pool/main/t/ttf-indic-fonts/ttf-indic-fonts_0.3.7ubuntu1_all.deb [02:40] *sigh* [02:40] Size: 618296 [02:40] MD5Sum: 4db5400483cca44ccd33d9cd5395648e [02:40] Description: A collection of OpenType Unicode Indic fonts [02:40] Gargi and Lohit Hindi are fonts for Devanagari, the script used in languages [02:40] such as Sanskrit, Hindi, and Marathi. [02:40] . [02:40] Padmaa Medium, Padmaa Bold, Rekha, and Lohit are fonts for Gujarati. [02:40] . === bignose_ [6effbc26d5@bignose.ca] has left #ubuntu [] [02:40] alper: Please don't paste here. [02:40] Saab, Saab Bold and Lohit Panjabi are fonts for Punjabi (Gurmukhi). [02:40] . [02:40] holy moses [02:41] Sampige is a font for Kannada. [02:41] . [02:41] utkalm is a font for Oriya. [02:41] . [02:41] Pothana2000 is a font for Telugu [02:41] . === mode/#ubuntu [+o Amaranth] by ChanServ [02:41] If you use the X Window System, be sure to install the x-ttcidfont-conf [02:41] package so you can use these fonts in X. [02:41] Bugs: mailto:ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com [02:41] Origin: Ubuntu [02:41] Task: ubuntu-desktop [02:41] sorry... [02:41] alper: Please don't do that again. [02:42] alper, he told you to put put it on pastebin. [02:42] kamping i ve read your msg a bit late' [02:42] yeah now i read it... [02:42] so yeah... md5sum on the iso checks fine, tride "patching" it through torrent and checks out fine === Craigo [~Wizball@saturn.mth.uea.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu [02:42] and yet they refuse to burn correctly === mode/#ubuntu [-o Amaranth] by ChanServ [02:43] apt-get install ttcidfont-conf alper... we forgive here once or twice... remember pastebin is your freind :) === ztonzy [~ztonzy@ztonzy.artist.blender] has joined #ubuntu [02:43] k now i know it === bart_ [~bart@175.34.97-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu === Craigo [~Wizball@saturn.mth.uea.ac.uk] has left #ubuntu ["Nowhere] [02:44] bbs. just getting the cake out of the oven :) [02:44] What impact will the latest realease of debian have on Ubuntu? Any? === i386 [~james@170-94-185-210.rev.techex.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [02:45] Pithlit, I had a problem like that with some other OS install disk in the past, and I couldn't figure out why. TBH, I think i just used the disk anyway. [02:45] psychonate: yes, but only for ~10 mins [02:45] kamping... we got a prob [02:45] it says: E: Couldn't find package ttcidfont-conf [02:45] jfk303: it can only help [02:46] <}x{|CeRbErUs> #2002 - The server is not responding (or the local MySQL server's socket is not correctly configured) [02:46] <}x{|CeRbErUs> anyone knows why this is [02:46] crimsun, well, do you remember how I/we thought that something might have a memory leak. (Some app was slowing X down dramatically after some time.) [02:47] psychonate: I get a lot of kernel panicing when I try to use those discs -_- [02:47] oh jeez [02:47] psychonate: yep [02:47] crimsun, I am fairly sure it is xfce4-panel [02:47] 99% sure === gubrats [~gubrats@cpc3-nthc5-3-0-cust214.nrth.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:48] it's certainly possible. Do you have a spare session on which to run xfce4-panel through valgrind? === djs [~djs@ppp-38-102.grapevine.net.au] has left #ubuntu [] [02:48] you lost me [02:48] I don't know what valgrind is === i386 [~james@170-94-185-210.rev.techex.net.au] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [02:48] you can use a tool to help pinpoint memory leaks [02:48] I can probably run a spare session if you tell me how. === stjepan [~Miranda@83-131-7-30.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu [02:49] i have problem when i want to install locals [02:49] or link me I guess === hugzy [~hugzy@athe730i-0390.otenet.gr] has joined #ubuntu === hugzy [~hugzy@athe730i-0390.otenet.gr] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === scorpix [~scorpix@as17-25.qualitynet.net] has joined #ubuntu === seven [~no@211.207.253.34] has joined #Ubuntu === lonewolff [~lonewolff@lonewolff.user] has joined #ubuntu [02:52] back :) [02:52] my screensaver rocks [02:52] windows BSoD === klvnv44 is now known as sijp [02:53] Kamping_Kaiser: Does it also have all of the other OS crash screens like the Amiga Guru Meditation? [02:53] alper, do you have deforma installed? [02:53] yeh it does === Laney [~laish@81-178-121-215.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:54] i have them on as well, but i like pressing the mouse and the BSoD goes away :) [02:54] Kamping_Kaiser: Guru Meditation is the best.. :) [02:54] :) k [02:55] crimsun, anyway, I am almost positive it is xfce4-panel. [02:56] Kamping_Kaiser, what screensaver is that exactly? [02:56] included in ubuntu by default? [02:56] wdh yes, its called BSOD [02:56] wait [02:56] let me check it [02:57] not entirely sure which are encluded === Laney [~laish@81-178-121-215.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:57] yes, spotted it :) [02:57] how to bind a global shortcut key to a specific command/program? [02:57] quite a lot actually :) === DataCaliber [asdas@116.13.205.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:57] yes deforma seems installed over synaptic [02:57] crimsun, when X gets slow, I also noticed that the highlighting of icons on the xfce4-panel lags A LOT. So, I opened up top and noticed that highlighting icons on the xfce4-panel at this time brought the CPU usage up to full, and that xfce4-panel was taking up about 12% of my memory usage, which seemed like a lot for just a panel. === Dave2 [~dave@Dave2.student.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu [02:58] psychonate: does closing and restarting xfce4-panel resolve the issue? [02:58] Yes sir. [02:58] That pretty much closed all doubt for me. [02:59] highlighting stopped lagging [02:59] ok, I'll make a note of it for the 4.2.2 packages [02:59] and X ran fine again [02:59] The next time it happens [02:59] are you using any special options, like binary drivers with special options enabled? [02:59] Blaim microsoft! :> [02:59] alper, try "dpkg --configure ttf-indic-fonts" [02:59] I will try to do a "before and after" note with output from top === Rayen16 [Rayen@c529cabae.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu [03:00] crimsun, I don't think so. [03:00] tried.. it returned with error [03:00] Hi, I would like to watch TV with my Hauppauge TV Card on Ubuntu, What program do I need for it? [03:00] psychonate: ok, well I have to go now. [03:00] what error? [03:00] alper, you could also PM the error to me [03:00] crimsun, np, I just thought I would tell you [03:00] has anybody had success with compositing and nvidia? I get hangups all the time :( [03:01] When it comes up again, I will try to get further information === mirak [~mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-31-95.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu [03:01] nvidia cards or mobos? [03:01] cards. I have a geforce4 card [03:02] the guide is here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20769 === mxpxpod [~BryanForb@mxpxpod.user] has joined #ubuntu === johan_ [~johan@toronto-HSE-ppp4019183.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu === stefan_dk [~stefan@0x535d66ea.boanxx16.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu [03:04] ok... one last try [03:04] how do I check the md5sum on the files in the .iso file? [03:04] uhm.. i think you want to check the md5sum on the whole iso file? [03:04] seraphiel, I think I will try that before the week is up at least. I've wanted to for some time. [03:04] linux-image-2.6.10-5-amd64-generic i got this in apt--upgrade [03:05] wdh: the whole iso checks fine [03:05] i'm new using apt has it installed the new kernel [03:05] it's something inside it that doesn't [03:05] Pithlit, if the whole iso is fine, the rest will be fine too.. [03:05] I would do it now, but I'm addressing some other issue. [03:05] it is not === kadambi [~kadambi@61.246.60.51] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:05] pithlit you have to mount the iso, but dont ask me [03:06] Pithlit, if the whole iso wasnt fine.. you could try checking the files in the iso to pinpoint the problem.. but when the sum of everthing is fine, all files in the iso will be too === tekkah [~tekk@209.213.64.215] has joined #ubuntu [03:06] global shortcut: anybody knows how to make a key binding to an APP? === spacey [~spacey@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #ubuntu [03:06] Kamping_Kaiser: got it === Rockett17 [~srockett@CPE0011097dafa9-CM00e06f1b4b12.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:07] nihao, you mean like a media key etc? [03:07] pithlit, cool :) [03:07] wdh: if the whole file is ok then it should burn fine === dreco [~dreco@dsl-084-059-069-024.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu === tium [~LaLu@dsaf2.net1.nerim.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:07] wdh: but it doesn't... and it fails on some html files (docs) [03:08] Pithlit, good luck checking then :P i'll say you in advance.. all files will be fine.. so seek the solution somewhere else :) === iGama [~iGama@core.tagus.ist.utl.pt] has joined #ubuntu [03:08] wdh: I have been looking for 3 days [03:08] HY ppl [03:08] and this is the last straw [03:09] if it fails... I forget about ubuntu and move on [03:09] i have ubuntu on a hp laptop, is there any way to speed up the fans? my laptop gets a bit hot :\ [03:09] Pithlit: you will sink [03:09] I'll sink? [03:09] ^-^ [03:09] Pithlit, try another cdburner === Ottoman [~bla@d51A527F3.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu [03:09] hi [03:10] or another computer preferably :) [03:10] and of course.. try ordering cd's from shipit.ubuntulinux.org :) [03:10] I have a problem getting Quake 3 (native) to work [03:10] i have ubuntu on a hp laptop, is there any way to speed up the fans? my laptop gets a bit hot :\ dos anyone have the same problem? [03:10] wdh: 3 burners / 2 comps / 4 burn sw's on 2 OS's [03:10] first I had no sound, I solved that [03:10] Kamping_Kaiser: i.e. I press Win+x to start firefox application. === thrace [~thrace@rtlogic.rtlogic.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:10] wdh: I guess that covers it [03:11] and ever since my game hangs when I start to play [03:11] so I can get into the menus and all, but no game [03:11] now... where do I get the md5sums for all the files? [03:11] Pithlit, strange then.. not sure what to think then === TongMaster [~TongMaste@home.waugh.id.au] has joined #ubuntu === Nakkel [~nakkel@vektori.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:12] wdh: yeah... I know... it's f***ng weird === ToutPT|ppc|fr [~toutpt@ANantes-151-1-76-4.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu [03:12] Pithlit, you dont.. you might try downloading another cd?? maybe even warty? [03:12] nihao, try the keyboard shortcuts app. === sijp is now known as sijp-reading-cmd [03:13] wdh: I really don't feel like it === cb0 [~mgv@ADSL-200-59-108-183.capfed2.uolsinectis.com.ar] has joined #ubuntu === cb0 [~mgv@ADSL-200-59-108-183.capfed2.uolsinectis.com.ar] has left #ubuntu [] [03:13] Pithlit, i understand that.. hope you'll succeed this time.. good luck! i gotto go to work.. === sijp-reading-cmd is now known as sijp- === DelPede [Exnay@port91.ds1-abc.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu === blastmanu [~blastmanu@dyn-83-157-238-126.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #ubuntu === blastmanu [~blastmanu@dyn-83-157-238-126.ppp.tiscali.fr] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === medicos [~medicos@201.254.100.223] has joined #ubuntu === jaakko_ [~jaakko@21-244.adsl.lpoy.dnainternet.fi] has joined #ubuntu [03:16] hello, i'm trying to install beatrix... does anybody have an idea why cfdisk is telling me that i don't have permission to write to the harddisk (which i just had emptied with gparted)... [03:16] jaakko_: #beatrix === egg|new [~leet@218-160-82-184.dynamic.hinet.net] has left #ubuntu ["DRM] [03:16] but there is nobody there [03:17] hello === _Church_of_Foamy [~shane@24-177-160-171.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:17] everyone wake up [03:17] then you'll have to wait [03:17] or you could try using ubuntu, then we can help :) [03:17] Kamping_Kaiser: I tried that. but it seems supporting defined action only... === martink [~martin@p54B3BE3D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu [03:18] well im using ubuntu now... but my other pc can't runs it kind of slow so i decided to try beatrix [03:18] nihao, sorry i cant help, i havent set up any keys === rizla [~rizla@adsl-141-157.37-151.net24.it] has joined #ubuntu [03:18] Kamping_Kaiser: thanks anyway :-) === rizla [~rizla@adsl-141-157.37-151.net24.it] has left #ubuntu ["bella!"] [03:19] :) sorry. === xerxes1358 [~xerxes__@145.116.2.111] has joined #ubuntu [03:21] Any of you guys installed Lyx here? === telemaco [~telemaco@26.Red-83-34-204.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu === Thazza [~Sleepy@229.9.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu === Nermal [~pprior@pc2.packadsl.ftech.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [03:21] xerxes1358: yup [03:22] no Quake 3 enthousiasts? === chaps0063 [~chaps0063@206.82.17.80] has joined #ubuntu === chaps0063 [~chaps0063@206.82.17.80] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:22] bob2, do you have by any chance the APA style there? === jind [~jind@216-220-56.7002.adsl.tele2.no] has joined #ubuntu === beyond [~beyond@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu === rayen [~rayen@c529cabae.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu [03:24] how are permissions defined for and empty harddisk? :-O [03:24] bob2, it in /usr/share/lyx/layout [03:24] bob2, it in /usr/share/lyx/layouts [03:25] hy ppl , i have a laptop , and in the /proc/acpi/fan i dont have anything , thats bad right? === orospakr [~orospakr@ip-72.82.126.206.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has joined #ubuntu === mgalvin [~mgalvin@host-66-202-95-170.spr.choiceone.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:26] iGama: Not necessarily. It could just mean that you can't get state info from the fans. They might work just fine anyway. [03:27] shawarma, but i think my laptop is a bit warm than it should be === n3C [~n3C@klik27.klik.bydgoszcz.pl] has joined #ubuntu [03:27] and its runnig at minim 600MHz [03:27] What kind of laptop is it? [03:27] xerxes1358: yes [03:27] hp [03:27] nx7000 === mgalvin [~mgalvin@host-66-202-95-170.spr.choiceone.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === johan_ [~johan@toronto-HSE-ppp4019183.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu [03:27] centrino 1.6 [03:28] iGama: Is it running on batteries? [03:28] bob2, I dont have it can you send it to me please? [03:28] xerxes1358: no, sorry === no0tic [~no0tic@host126-85.pool8255.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [03:28] ? [03:28] bob2 why not? [03:28] nopes power [03:28] no battery inserted at this moment [03:28] xerxes1358: just install the lyx-common package, it's in there [03:29] bob2, No I did install it is not included mate. [03:29] bob2 its no big deal sending it to me, why not just send it to me? [03:29] xerxes1358: lyx-common: /usr/share/lyx/layouts/apa.layout [03:29] when i run X -configure i get an error saying it cant find drivers do i need to make a link [03:29] iGama: Ok. What does 'cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM/temperature' say? === ian_brasil [~vern@200-158-47-177.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu [03:29] xerxes1358: dude, I'm the lyx maintainer, it is in there [03:30] and if i run glxgears i also get an error even if gear do spin === lotusleaf [~lotusleaf@lotusleaf.user] has joined #ubuntu === tium [~LaLu@dsaf2.net1.nerim.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:30] shawarma, cat: /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM/temperature: No such file or directory [03:30] bob2, I am not at my linux machine right now. I am at my mac machine. I dont have the apa.layout Will you send the file or not ? [03:30] xerxes1358: no [03:30] xerxes1358: it's in the lyx-common package, make sure you have that installed === rayen [~rayen@c529cabae.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu [03:30] iGama: Does 'acpi -V' say anything sensible? [03:30] Is there anyone here that has LYX installed ? [03:31] xerxes1358: please just install that package === Hylas [~Hylas@dialup-62.162.220.203.acc01-gurw-wag.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [03:31] I'm sorry you think it isn't there, but it is [03:31] shawarma, No support for device type: thermal [03:31] AC Adapter 1: on-line [03:31] bob2, arggg there is no lyx-commong as far as I know for mac [03:31] xerxes1358: good lord === Rockett17 [~srockett@CPE0011097dafa9-CM00e06f1b4b12.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu === doko [~doko___@dsl-084-059-045-032.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:32] why lyx [03:32] hi what program do i need to apt-get so I can mount a NTFS ? === komA is now known as koma [03:32] rayen: you don't need to install anything [03:32] rayen, It is installed already === doko [~doko___@dsl-084-059-045-032.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:32] i used that and sometimes had trouble with math especially greek letters [03:32] johan_, do you have the program installed ? [03:32] shawarma, any ideia? :s === mwh_ [~mwh@port10.ds1-arve.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu [03:33] when dealing straight with latex it never went wrong === drasko [~drasko@kds12-077.ptt.yu] has joined #ubuntu === random__ [~random@adsl-209-30-173-71.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:33] iGama: Not really. The fans are not running at all? [03:33] bob2, mount -t ntfs /dev/hda2 /mnt/d/ doesn't work: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda2, === mwh_ [~mwh@port10.ds1-arve.adsl.cybercity.dk] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:33] rayen, type sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/ /folder1/folder2 [03:33] rayen: was that with sudo? [03:33] bob2, i used ' su' [03:34] iGama: Well, my only guess would be to disable ACPI altogether. That way, the BIOS should take care of the fans. [03:34] er, ok [03:34] rayen: that strongly suggests /dev/hda2 isn't ntfs then [03:34] if i get driver error with X -configure do i need to llink my driver [03:34] shawarma, the fans are stoped === Ottoman [~bla@d51A527F3.access.telenet.be] has left #ubuntu ["Ik] === Fab4am [~Am@lns-vlq-6-str-82-249-184-184.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:34] how do i disabele tha acpi= [03:34] johan_: why are you using that command at all? [03:34] ? === mxpxpod [~BryanForb@wuw-ojr3gmca.dybb.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:35] where are the metacity config files? === scorpix [~scorpix@as17-25.qualitynet.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:35] shawarma, how do i disable acpi? === omni_lonnie [~lonnie@leepcH-150.sub-h.lee.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:36] iGama: You set a kernel parameter "acpi=off". Do you know how to do that? [03:36] bob2, hmm, you are right, yeah it's /dev/hda5, but it's D on Windows --- I think somehow something went wrong while partitioning [03:36] not really, at boot right? [03:36] drasko: gconf [03:36] iGama: Right. Do you know if you're running lilo or grub? [03:36] grub === nubb [~nub@vpn36.rz.tu-ilmenau.de] has joined #ubuntu === nubb is now known as Nub === Nub is now known as Nubb === mxpxpod is now known as mx|gone [03:37] iGama: Great. Find the entry you usually boot, hit 'e' for edit, highlight the longest line, hit 'e' for edit, and add acpi=off to the end of the line. Hit enter to accept, and hit 'b' to boot. [03:38] rayen: sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda === Nubb is now known as Nub [03:38] bob2, lyx-common platform independent? [03:38] xerxes1358: of course not, it's just how the debian package is split up [03:39] xerxes1358: that file is in the lyx source tree, tho; if you don't see it, you built it wrong === cybermatrix_ [~cybermatr@82-32-211-81.cable.ubr07.newt.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [03:39] shawarma, thanks be right back [03:39] wazaaa [03:39] bob2, are you lyx maintainer you said ? [03:40] bob2, then you must know if there is a mac version of it right? [03:40] cant wait till x86 os x comes out [03:40] itll make things much simpler [03:41] hello, can someone help me with the download and installation of something please? [03:41] I guess linus torvalds was wrong when he said ppc would be a major architecture in the upcoming years [03:41] random__, what? [03:41] noob question? [03:41] in new to ubuntu and my soundcard isn't one thats auto-detected [03:41] kestas: apple isn't that big a part of the ppc market, I think [03:41] command for seeing kernel headers [03:41] i've been told i need to get the latest alsa drivers === Shuddertrix [~Andrew@user-0cdv20s.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:41] maswan: what else? OS/400? [03:42] xerxes1358: why on earth are you looking for a particular style to use on your mac if you didnt even check if it works on mac yet? [03:42] maswan: I dont see linux running instead of OS/400 if someone paid for a machine which runs it [03:42] kestas: Power [03:42] random__, sudo apt-get install alsa-base [03:43] random__, To get the latest version [03:43] maswan: I dont follow [03:43] bob2, you dont read my posts. I have lyx already on my machine. I asked you if there is a lyx-common packages for mac osx. Cause I cant find any. [03:43] done [03:43] xerxes1358: and you didn't read mine [03:43] 23:39:01 bob2 | xerxes1358: that file is in the lyx source tree, tho; if you don't see it, you built it wrong [03:43] xerxes1358: if you installed it from source, you have that file on your disk already [03:43] i need want to try the official nvidia drivers but i get errors, kernel source path and so... [03:44] cybermatrix_: why? [03:44] cybermatrix_: install the nvidia-kernel and nvidia-glx packages, not the download from nvidia.com [03:44] bob2, lyx on macosx doesnt install from source. The mac osx port of lyx is just some binaries. [03:44] kestas: IBM's power series has much more revenue than apple, even if I'm not sure on cpu count. and there linux is a first class citizen these days. some models are even sold with linux as the only option. [03:44] cybermatrix_: and read the faq [03:44] with the one that comes with ubuntu my laptop freezes after 2 minutes [03:44] xerxes1358: then go get the tarball... [03:44] i had to disable it [03:44] bob2, compiling from source is not trivial why do you think there is a PORT? [03:44] maswan: hmm I didnt know that, I dont know why someone would go with an IBM machine though, whats it got over x86? === Fab4am [~Am@lns-vlq-6-str-82-249-184-184.adsl.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:45] bob2, you such noob. [03:45] xerxes1358: hahahaha === spiral [~spiral@lafilaire-4-82-224-249-43.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:45] you seem very confused [03:45] lyx-common is a packaged, composed of files from the lyx source distribution [03:45] everything in there comes from the source tarball [03:46] xerxes1358, bob2 a noob? you gotta be kidding [03:46] kestas: scalability, and for some things also performance [03:46] if your binary tarball is broken, then either build it from source yourself (which IS simple, apple ships developer tools), or get the source tarball and copy the missing files over [03:46] I'd suggest the latter [03:46] well i'll do some more forced resear thench [03:46] h === XandriX [~slack@dsl-152-42.aei.ca] has joined #ubuntu [03:47] cybermatrix_: I cant think why that would happen [03:47] cybermatrix_: but to use nvidia drivers using the official installer you have to get linux-source from synaptic [03:48] xerxes1358: when you download the source tarball, the file is lib/layouts/apa.layout . [03:48] cybermatrix_: then "cd /usr/src && tar -jpvxf linux-kernel-2.6.11(orwhatever).tar.bz2 && ln -s linux-kernel-2.6.11(orwhatever)/ linux" [03:48] cybermatrix_: then itll install [03:49] well, that won't help [03:49] cybermatrix_: oh and install linux-headers too [03:49] just for fun [03:49] since the source tree is unconfigured [03:49] oh yeah [03:49] cybermatrix_: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential [03:49] yeah or that [03:49] well, this way will work ;p [03:49] Is there an option within Synaptic to view all of the packages listed in backports, only? [03:50] bob2: my way will work if you "cp /boot/config.-whatever /usr/src/linux/.config [03:50] after youve done the above [03:50] lotusleaf, ya search fro ubp and slect versions [03:50] kestas: not until you build the kernel === queuetue [~Scott@h69-21-252-54.69-21.unk.tds.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:50] bah === nessmuk [~nessmuk@159.205-206-70-0.interbaun.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:50] Is it just me, or has firefox started locking up regularly since the last update? [03:50] modversions.h needs to be generated [03:50] just you [03:51] maybe "make dep" is enough for that [03:51] I have to force-kill FF mabe 10 times a day, now - it jus tlocks up. === thekoreuk [~thekoreuk@dsl-80-45-137-171.access.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:51] queuetue, no trouble here [03:51] bob2: not in 2.6 [03:51] bob2: no make dep in 2.6 [03:51] well [03:51] modprobe takes module within but how can i remove it from use ? [03:51] then you need to build the whole kernel then [03:51] i think that's just you queuetue [03:51] zenrox, search for ubp and select versions where? [03:51] Turoq: You mean rmmod? === _stjepan [~Miranda@83-131-7-30.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu [03:51] <_stjepan> hello [03:51] ty [03:52] lotusleaf, in snyaptic [03:52] the big search button === Goshawk [~vincenzo@host191-98.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [03:52] however, admittedly I hardly ever sit infront of the machine and work from the gui [03:52] FF doesn't lock up for me, but I am gaining dislike for it. [03:52] <_stjepan> do you know any ubuntu videos? [03:52] i'm usually ssh'd in [03:52] It crashes OFTEN === debugger [~lemming@dsl-082-083-249-008.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:52] and what module is in use cause i dont hear any sound from games [03:52] zenrox, where is "versions" [03:52] <_stjepan> do you know any ubuntu videos? [03:52] hi there [03:52] Ugh. Must be a plugin (maybe flash.) [03:52] in the window it creats [03:52] Actually, can someone recommend some alternatives to FF? [03:52] <_stjepan> for example, flash videos? [03:52] <_stjepan> no? [03:53] Dillo is nice but there are a lot of sites I can't view with it. [03:53] lotusleaf, in that window that the big search button creates [03:53] can somebody give me directions on how to modify the source of a debian package? [03:53] _stjepan: need some wank material? [03:53] debugger: apt-get source packagename [03:53] psychonate: oh yeah dillo as a replacement for firefox [03:53] shawarma Yes, I did that [03:53] <_stjepan> kestas: yes [03:53] except it doesnt even support CSS [03:53] zenrox, do I need apt-show-versions? [03:53] no [03:53] debugger: Then it's just source code from then on. Hack away! :-) [03:53] Now this unpacks the original source and applies a patch for ubuntu/debian === iceonnet [~iceonnet@dsl222-201.adsl.no] has joined #ubuntu [03:54] shawarma: The thing is, I only need to remove one configure argument, the rest may be left as original === Bazzi- is now known as Bazzi [03:54] shawarma: but the modifications seem to be in a subfolder named debian === segfault [~loretito@pc-39-79-104-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:55] shawarma: which ./configure does not read or anything [03:55] zenrox, ahhhhhhhhh I found it thanks. :-) [03:55] shawarma: is there some kind of trick? [03:55] debugger: Go to the source directory. In there, there's a debian-directory. In there, there's a rules file. That's the one that runs configure for you. [03:55] kestas, which is why I negated it as an option [03:55] lotusleaf, good\ [03:55] lol [03:55] kestas, still, FF crashes for me all the time [03:55] zenrox, I just switched from YaST so I'm a bit dumb ;) [03:55] well.. hello there. i've been tipsed by a friend about ubuntu... and i installed it.. but i want to se my old files, they are on a s-ata disk with ntfs.. how to mount [03:55] zenrox, haven't used a Debian based distro in a long time ;-) [03:55] debugger: You got your head on backwards :-) The script in debian calls configure. Not the other way around. === segfault [~loretito@pc-39-79-104-200.cm.vtr.net] has left #ubuntu ["Konversation] [03:55] psychonate: well open it in a terminal or otherwise get some logs from stdout and find out why it crashes [03:55] shawarma: Okay, thx. I got confused by those includes === firasR [~firas@62.150.38.165] has joined #ubuntu [03:56] shawarma: Seemed to me like rules has nothing to do at all with configure [03:56] lotusleaf, sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/ /media/ [03:56] iceonnet: oh, unfortunately they got deleted when you installed ubuntu :( === aysunLa [~Berna@69-173-237-20.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:56] Xabbu|, won't work, I don't have a Windows partition. :-) I know, you didn't mean me. [03:56] debugger: Ok. WHen you've changed the rules file, go to the toplevel source dir, and run 'dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us -rfakeroot -b' [03:56] iceonnet: or maybe not, check this http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#windows [03:57] thenuke, well.. i installed ubuntu on my ata disk and i have a s-ata disk with my files === Nub [~nub@vpn36.rz.tu-ilmenau.de] has joined #ubuntu [03:57] shawarma: What are these options about? [03:57] lotusleaf, Sorry, Im a bit tired... ;) [03:58] iceonnet: and if I remember correctly sata-drives are sdx# instead of hdx# [03:58] shawarma: (Could look them up in the manpage, okay) [03:58] ok === lotusleaf hands Xabbu| some coffee [03:58] where can i get the latest soundcard alsa driver? [03:58] bookmark that guide btw ;) [03:58] it's great source of knowledge === Xabbu| drinks the coffee... [03:58] hmm, is there somewhere I can find what's been updated in ubuntu kernel-source package for hoary ? [03:58] random__: your sound is probably not not working because of not having a driver [03:58] do I need to rebuild my kernel [03:58] ? === zenrox hands Xabbu| a steaming hot cup of coffie [03:59] lotusleaf gave you a cold cup === tium [~LaLu@dsaf2.net1.nerim.net] has joined #ubuntu === kestas pisses in Xabbu| [03:59] 's coffe [03:59] e [03:59] lol [03:59] ugh I need some coffee [04:00] Ill get my own I think [04:00] shawarma: "Unmet build dependencies: cdbs" [04:00] Xabbu|: too bad you can't have a ! in your nick huh? [04:00] kestas: my soundcard is not autodetected. i was told i need to get the latest alsadriver to fix it [04:00] shawarma probably apt-get install cdbs, right? [04:00] kestas: i also can't run alsamixer [04:00] spiral: if u've installed the package you might find some readme files under /usr/src/linux.... directory [04:00] thenuke, dont you mean sda?? [04:00] spiral: not sure though cause i don't have it installed myself [04:01] Pithlit, yeah === ubuntu [~ubuntu@217.129.211.46] has joined #ubuntu === Amaranth heads for bed [04:02] bob2, copying the apa.layout file into my own directory didnt help. apa style is still unavailable. sigh I think I need the apa.lyx in the templates dir and that does not come with either the source or the mac version [04:02] firasR: all right, I'll check, thanks [04:02] random_ : add the debian unstable repository [04:03] xerxes1358: there's no apa.lyx file in the packages [04:03] spiral: ur welcome [04:03] shawarma: Okay, i created a .deb in the directory above [04:03] shawarma: Just install that one? [04:03] bob2, is your apa style available ? [04:03] shawarma: s/i/it/ [04:03] you can dl the latest alsadriver( 1.09a ) from there === spanglesontoast [~spangles@eddland.plus.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:05] lastlog mako [04:05] how do I mount iso images again? [04:05] mount -o loop img.img /mnt/img === ChinaCatJones [~chris@pool-71-111-176-217.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:05] shawarme: brb === reka [~reka@WNPP-p-203-54-24-84.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #ubuntu === rob__ [~rob@150.199.117.77] has joined #ubuntu [04:07] ah ty === Aron [~Aron@valley-cable-66-186-82-15.vianet.ca] has joined #ubuntu [04:07] random__: how do you know its not autodetected? [04:07] hey guys, I finally got around to doing a clean reinstall of Hoary. Why is there no more XMMS? [04:07] bob2, I just ssh to my suse machine at home. I noticed that apa.layout is there too. BUT at home I also can not use apa style. So copying apa.layout to the layouts dir is not the solution zzz === abc123 [~abc123@host138-188.pool82187.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [04:08] it's not installed === kain [~kain@ip-72-109.sn2.eutelia.it] has joined #ubuntu [04:08] by default [04:08] download it === debugger [~lemming@dsl-082-083-249-008.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:08] spanglesontoast, are you talking to me ? [04:08] no aron [04:08] shawarma: I'm back [04:08] Aron: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto [04:08] I recently got Hoary running on my laptop, but I'm unable to mount a windows share using mount -t smbmount. Any ideas?? [04:08] what if first entry on http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UTFEightCurrentProblems does not work? I've a content-type tag set to iso-8559-1 or iso-8859-15 but it shows up as utf-8, no matter what I do or which locales I generate [04:09] Aron: it's in the universe repository [04:09] shawarma: Thank you for your help [04:09] Aron: better alternative: beep-media-player [04:09] rob__: mount -t smbfs ... [04:09] bob2: I've got universe up, or at least Synaptic SAYS I do :P [04:09] shawarma: clearlooks no longer doubles the CPU usage of xorg now... [04:09] Aron: did you update? [04:09] Sorry, I meant mount -t smbfs [04:09] bob2: yes [04:09] rob__: have you installed smbfs? [04:09] rob__: did you install smbfs? [04:09] bob2: Note that the how2 is for the old synaptic - this new one seems buggy to me. [04:10] Aron: well, it's there, I don't know what might be broken in your config [04:10] shawarma: Yet the update manager now wants me to update it... :) [04:10] bob2: well according to apt it isn't, lol [04:10] I usually avoid working from Synaptic, especially now that it seems weird [04:10] Pithlit: Xabbu| you fans of Ted Williams or something? [04:10] Aron: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood [04:10] debugger: Clearlooks? [04:11] Aron: in what way is synaptic now weird? [04:11] shawarma: Yes, the gtk engine/theme - The animated progress bars stressed my poor Athlon 700 [04:11] When I try mounting a windows share, this is the error message I get. [04:11] mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //rbecker-pc/ogg, [04:11] missing codepage or other error [04:11] In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try [04:11] dmesg | tail or so [04:11] rob__: have you installed smbfs? [04:11] how do i mount isos? === kanzen [wgtafhxfnf@acute.anhedonia.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:11] sudo apt-get install smbfs [04:11] riley@Shadowcat:~ $ sudo apt-get install xmms [04:11] Reading package lists... Done [04:11] Building dependency tree... Done [04:11] Package xmms is not available, but is referred to by another package. [04:11] This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or [04:11] is only available from another source [04:11] E: Package xmms has no installation candidate [04:11] I have samba and samba-common installed. [04:11] Aron: dude === koma is now known as komA [04:11] ajmitch: with the repository lists as they are [04:12] Aron: 00:10:44 bob2 | Aron: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood [04:12] Is smbfs a separate package? [04:12] spanglesontoast, mount -it iso9660 -o loop /path/to/iso.iso /mount/point [04:12] rob__: yes [04:12] ah [04:12] spanglesontoast, mount -t iso9660 -o loop /path/to/iso.iso /mount/point * [04:12] I'll look into that. [04:12] Thanks. [04:12] whoops lol [04:12] spanglesontoast: http://www.google.com/?s="how do I mount isos" [04:12] sorry bob [04:12] >_< === murrayc [~murrayc@p5498BD61.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu === wawa [~wawa@i-83-67-16-40.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu === xerxes1358 [~xerxes__@145.116.2.111] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === DNAku-san [~DNA-otaku@dD5767493.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu [04:13] shawarma: Any idea how to keep update manager from telling me my version is outdated? [04:13] ok, posted it bob2 === derJunior [~derJunior@p549FDDE0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu === SteveA_ [~steve@adsl-213-190-44-43.takas.lt] has joined #ubuntu === Hoxzer [Hoxzer@dsl-hkigw2p34.dial.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu [04:13] debugger: update? === bartholome [~bart@175.34.97-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:14] Aron: "sudo apt-get update", then paste the output of "apt-cache policy xmms" to #flood [04:14] what if first entry on http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UTFEightCurrentProblems does not work? I've a content-type tag set to iso-8559-1 or iso-8859-15 but it shows up as utf-8, no matter what I do or which locales I generate [04:14] how to remove write-only on mounted discs?? [04:14] shawarma: That will propably wipe out what I just did... === dlwang [~breezy@cm41.epsilon201.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu === JohnDong [~jdong@d149-67-171-99.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:14] iceonnet: you mean read-only? you can't [04:14] yeah === DragonFly [vampyre@m59.net81-67-104.noos.fr] has joined #ubuntu [04:15] bob2, hmm... ok [04:15] sure you can [04:15] mount -ro /dev/whatever /mnt/whereever [04:15] mount -rw /dev/whatever /mnt/whereever [04:15] that is [04:15] just remount it over the same place [04:15] bob2: everything's up in #flood === eric [~eric@5354ED33.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu [04:15] skdjds === BockBilbo [~Bock@85.84.43.70] has joined #ubuntu [04:16] hello [04:16] is there any tools for mount isos? [04:17] spanglesontoast, no [04:17] spanglesontoast: google it [04:17] just mount [04:17] spanglesontoast: someone already told you how [04:17] doesn't work [04:17] can anyone tell me how do amd processors work on ubuntu? [04:17] well ? === tium [~LaLu@dsaf2.net1.nerim.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:17] kestas: i've been here and someone told me [04:17] So, I'm getting the "could not open default font" error from xorg in breezy, and dpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg isn't fixing it. [04:18] yes bock they do [04:18] BockBilbo: its pretty complicated === dataw0lf|w [~dataw0lf@66.219.227.114] has joined #ubuntu [04:18] spanglesontoast, try mount -t iso9660 -o loop /the/iso.iso /mnt/iso [04:18] spanglesontoast: define "doesn't work", since it *does* work for lots of people [04:18] does anyone know aix os ?? query me please [04:18] if that dont work install loop and modprobe loop [04:18] spanglesontoast: did you load the loop module yet? [04:18] erm [04:18] let me check [04:18] kestas, what do you mean? [04:18] BockBilbo, there's nothing strange about amd processors, or do you mean in 64-bit mode? [04:18] where did USN-137-1 come from? I can't find any reference to this bug anywhere else [04:18] spanglesontoast, if it still dont work read www.uduntuguide.org for mounting isos [04:18] BockBilbo: an AMD processor is a complicated thing [04:18] they do work [04:18] BockBilbo: you need to know microchip physics [04:18] but you asked a stupid question [04:19] so you'll get stupid answers [04:19] Juhaz, i mean a normal amd processor, ive bought a computer with a amd 2200 === ring_bearer [~rob@210.211.243.151.broadband.vsnl.net.in] has joined #ubuntu [04:19] BockBilbo, "are there any known issues with ubuntu and AMD cpus?" would have been a better way [04:19] and i was wondering if it will work with ubuntu [04:19] yes it will [04:19] oh... sorry [04:19] Of COURSE I do a clean Hoary install right before Breezy is ready to go. Can somebody link me to an ISO? >_< === Nermal sighs at the n00bville [04:19] but, which one works better for ubuntu? intel or amd? [04:19] Aron: breezy isnt read to go === Nermal [~pprior@pc2.packadsl.ftech.co.uk] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [04:20] lol [04:20] kestas: there's no public testing ISO? [04:20] bockbilbo, neither [04:20] BockBilbo, no real difference, they both work just as well. [04:20] oh [04:20] thanks [04:20] :) [04:20] kestas: also, in the real computer world October's pretty close to now... [04:20] Aron: breezy is near the start of the development cycle [04:20] Really? Wow. [04:20] They work fast. [04:20] I'm not used to that :P [04:20] in other words, still in the mad dash before upstream version freeze & feature freeze [04:21] LOL, yup. I mean if that was redhat it'd be 2 years from now :P === _linuxAS_ [~linuxAS@cmbe-212-89-16-88.telecable.es] has joined #ubuntu [04:21] are there known issues with the via's VT8237 SATA controller (no raid). I have a couple of Western Digital raptor hard drives on there and I'm getting some odd problems. If I enable more than a couple of primary paritions, two of the extented partitions will register as md devices (even though I have not configured RAID) when I boot after the install. [04:21] Okay, so now the question is, how the heck do I get XMMS working off a clean Hoary install? [04:21] err... there should have beena question mark there somewhere === Drangna [~teppo@user-pri1-162.dial.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu [04:21] aron, if it was debian it would be ready for our grandkids [04:21] good point. [04:21] hello. I'm running hoary on a pentium laptop with kernel 2.6.10-5-386. I wish to compile a custom kernel module I wrote. However the kernel sources I have are only for 2.6.10 which is leading to a module load time error about the version of symbol struct_module. Could someone help me decipher this one or point me to the right forum ? [04:21] so can anybody go check my post in #flood? [04:21] to see what the heck is going on? [04:22] Aron: what problems are you having with xmms? [04:22] ring_bearer: grab linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386 [04:23] damn, I've added to my web pages generated from apache + php in ubuntu (utf-8) but locale chars are interpreted with -> ?, anyone has a solution for this? please [04:23] kanzen: hmmmmmm.. only extended partitions have this problem? [04:23] ajmitch : Ok. I'll give that a shot. [04:23] kain: wouldnt that be a problem on the clients end? [04:24] kestas, no [04:24] kestas: it appears to be the case. I am getting another odd thing happening: [04:24] Aron: (aside: we can't see your post in #flood unless we were in there when you posted it.) ubuntu.pastebin.com is useful === Laney [~laish@81-178-121-215.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu === _linuxAS_ [~linuxAS@cmbe-212-89-16-88.telecable.es] has joined #ubuntu [04:25] ajmitch : I still wonder how that would help. In the 2.6 series, one is expected to use the 2.6 sources and build system for compiling modules. In that case, how do I build my module against the 2.6.10-5 headers ? [04:25] if I partition the second channel as a single large 37GB partition it appears to work OK. However, if I go back intot hte install and create two md mirros (one for / and one for swap) the device on the second channel gives me block errors and fails. Also the second md devices looks like it's made of LVM devices, however I did not configure LVM === DelPede [Exnay@port91.ds1-abc.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu [04:26] ring_bearer: the headers have the needed version info === xerxes1358 [~xerxes__@145.116.2.111] has joined #ubuntu [04:27] most of you people ARE in #flood, and my problem is simple - it's not there! I've got universe and multiverse all set up as usual === kain is away: arf [04:27] and the package just isn't there! [04:27] eg if you're building modules like hostap you build using those headers [04:27] ring_bearer: A lot of stuff builds with just the headers.. [04:27] ring_bearer: What are you doing that makes this impossible? === Laney [~laish@81-178-121-215.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:27] also, if I try to install a new kernel out of universe I get this: /usr/sbin/mkinitrd: /dev/evms/.nodes/sdb2: Cannot find LVM device [04:27] again, I have not configured or even tried to configure LVM ont his box [04:27] kanzen: don't use that kernel then [04:27] shawarma: Recompiled the package after changing the changelog, now the update manager is quiet [04:27] iceonnet: no I did not mean sda1 for example. I meant sdx# [04:27] kanzen: 2.6.11 and 12 in universe are screwed [04:27] shawarma: Thanks again & good bye [04:28] iceonnet: I dont know if your drive is sda1 or sdb4 or sdc3 [04:28] iceonnet: what you are trying to mount [04:28] debugger: There you go. You're now a level 3 packager. :-) [04:28] bob2, dont want to moan but lyx is pretty broken. Neither on suse9.2/9.3, ubuntu or fedora 3 the apa works. And yes all of them come with the apa.layout file in the layout directory [04:28] bob2, I asked differnet peopkle [04:28] xerxes1358: so, file a bug upstream then === xerxes1358 [~xerxes__@145.116.2.111] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === lotusleaf [~lotusleaf@lotusleaf.user] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [04:28] iceonnet: the guide tells you how to figure out those partitions and drives === xerxes1358 [~xerxes__@145.116.2.111] has joined #ubuntu [04:28] bob2: ah... good to know. I'll avoid them. This still doesn't solve my mysterious LVM/MD devices, since those come up with the default kernel. [04:28] bob2, I missed what you said [04:28] xerxes1358: ? [04:29] ajmitch : Yes but in ubuntu the 2.6.10 sources are installed seperately and the 2.6.10-5 headers are installed seperately. If I want to use 2.6 kernel source and build system like `make -C /path/to/kernel/source M=/path/to/dir/containing/my/module/and/makefile modules` it won't work with seperate headers, right ? === markm [mark@securable.org] has joined #ubuntu [04:29] I'm assuming these are LVM devices, or am I wrong: md1 : active raid1 dm-1[1] dm-0[0] === eruin [~eruin@213-145-179-140.dd.nextgentel.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:29] bob2, after I wrote to you I accidentally pressed the close button. I saw someone said something to me [04:29] shawarma: I'm just experimenting with a simple hello world module. Just cannot build it the way its described in Rubini that's all. [04:29] xerxes1358: ok... [04:29] ring_bearer: I wouldn't think you'd need the kernel source installed, usually just the headers to build a module [04:29] xerxes1358: anyway, file a bug upstream [04:29] roger === dave_ [~dave@c-66-41-246-122.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === SuP3RJuJu [~KEUDJ@81.185.112.45] has joined #ubuntu === tium [~LaLu@dsaf2.net1.nerim.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:30] ring_bearer: If you don't need any includes that are not in the header-package, you can build it outside the kernel tree. 2 secs.. === jamin [~jamin@sys-216.87.56.250.primary.net] has joined #ubuntu === xerxes1358 [~xerxes__@145.116.2.111] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [04:31] ajmitch: I guess you're right. That will work but only if I don't use the kernel's makefiles, without changing them atleast. === gangalee [~ira@alita.wirespring.net] has joined #ubuntu === Laney [~laish@81-178-121-215.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:31] Aron: not meaning to insult, but have you made sure you saved sources.list after you uncommented? === _hp_ [~hp@c-24-91-236-187.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === lamont__ [~lamont@15.238.5.202] has joined #ubuntu [04:32] reka: no offense taken, but yes === reka has done this before [04:32] reka: saved and updated. [04:32] How would a Hoary machine download a Warty package for later installation on the Warty machine with apt-get? === SuP3RJuJu [~KEUDJ@81.185.112.45] has left #ubuntu [] [04:32] here's the output of apt-cache policy xmms: [04:32] xmms: [04:32] Installed: (none) [04:32] Candidate: (none) [04:32] Version table: [04:32] gangalee: apt-get -d install warty-package/warty [04:33] thanks [04:33] helluva name [04:33] Aron: paste the output of ls -l /var/lib/apt/lists/ in #flood [04:33] gangalee: or go to packages.ubuntu.com and browse for it. (i.e. packages.ubuntu.com/gaim) [04:34] <}x{|CeRbErUs> isn't there a channel ubuntu-beginners or something ;) [04:34] Also, if I install a pre-built kernel image in ubuntu, I find that there is no way to figure out what the configuration used for this image was. Something like /proc/config.gz is usually missing. So how do I know this ? === carlos_ [~carlos@200.84.222.154] has joined #ubuntu [04:34] what wireless options are best for linux/ubuntu really? I'm looking into purchasing a laptop ;-) [04:34] is there a 'correct' way to configure apache apart from editing httpd.conf? === luxo [~luxo@85-135-128-251.adsl.slovanet.sk] has joined #ubuntu [04:35] some recommended frontend for example [04:35] <}x{|CeRbErUs> what do u mean eruin [04:35] eruin: intel works well [04:35] hyphenated: it's apache.conf, and no [04:35] bob2, how about ipw2100 and the likes? [04:35] <}x{|CeRbErUs> everything works well ;) [04:35] eruin: er, intel wireless chipsets. prism54 works well, too. === perlentaucher [~daniel@dsl-084-058-016-091.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:35] hey [04:35] eruin: ipw2100 is one of intel's ones [04:35] bob2: what's httpd.conf for then? [04:35] I'm talking to you over my ipw2100 right now [04:36] <}x{|CeRbErUs> eruin http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards check that out ;) === JovenComunista [~e1980@201.249.81.219] has joined #ubuntu [04:36] hyphenated: doesn't the contents explain it? === ccc [~ccc@c-ac0f70d5.015-28-6c6b7010.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu [04:36] }x{|CeRbErUs, I'm compiling a list of computers I'd like but if their wireless options are unsuitable for linux, they're a no-go ;) [04:36] I use the ipw2200 driver for the 29xx chipset, works fine [04:36] }x{|CeRbErUs, bob2 thanks guys :) [04:36] <}x{|CeRbErUs> no problem ;) [04:36] hello [04:36] <}x{|CeRbErUs> I love this distro :) [04:36] <}x{|CeRbErUs> you make progress so much faster :) [04:36] bob2: indeed. I'm used to httpd.conf being the big one full of all the details [04:36] eruin: oh, atheros works fine, too [04:37] <}x{|CeRbErUs> everyone is so helpfull [04:37] eruin: (the 3 I mentioned work right out of the box...most others will work with some fiddling) [04:37] <}x{|CeRbErUs> and that fiddling can even be done by me ;) [04:38] bob2, out of the box is what I'm looking for allright ;) === melda_ [~zx@85.99.36.97] has joined #ubuntu [04:38] <}x{|CeRbErUs> eruin the cards that don't work out of the box are very easy to fire up to [04:38] <}x{|CeRbErUs> ;-) [04:38] though I gather I could be more productive in laptoptesting for breezy if I get an unsupported one :P === cetex_ [~uplink@h67n2fls31o259.telia.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [04:38] hehe [04:39] }x{|CeRbErUs, yeah, as long as I don't have to resort to ndiswrapper, I'm pretty much happy [04:39] more pain for you tho === perlentaucher [~daniel@dsl-084-058-016-091.arcor-ip.net] has left #ubuntu ["Verlassend"] === dhewg_ [~dhewg@dsl-082-082-144-044.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:39] <}x{|CeRbErUs> what's wrong with ndiswrapper eruin? === selcan [~baby@81.213.237.204] has joined #ubuntu === }x{|CeRbErUs is now known as Cerberus === luxo [~luxo@85-135-128-251.adsl.slovanet.sk] has left #ubuntu [] === bladus [~bladus@p50902622.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu === semanta_ [~eileen@85.99.204.62] has joined #ubuntu === salim [~salim@dyn-83-157-248-203.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #ubuntu [04:40] it's a terrible hack [04:40] only works on i386 [04:40] means you can't do things like passive scanning [04:40] is unsupportable [04:40] i'm using it :blush: [04:40] means loading binary goo into your kernel [04:40] Cerberus, yeh, I'm getting an amd64 machine [04:40] ow ok [04:41] but it seems to work fine here bob2 [04:41] are there alternatives? [04:41] Cerberus: oh, it's ok as a last resort, but it's good to avoid it if possible... === dhewg_ is now known as dhewg [04:41] getting an amd64 machine with a decent setup _and_ nvidia graphics is DIFFICULT around here :o [04:41] if there's no linux driver, you can use ndiswrapper or a pcmcia card [04:41] bob2 my card didn't work with the acx111 module [04:42] so i did not saw much alternative then ndiswrapper === redtech [~reddog@redtech.user] has joined #ubuntu [04:42] eruin try ATI graphics ;) [04:42] that's even worse [04:43] I've had too much trouble with ati to go down that road again :P === paulproteus [~paulprote@h-67-102-97-191.mclnva23.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:44] nvidia should work like a charm on linux ;) === XandriX [~slack@dsl-135-33.aei.ca] has joined #ubuntu === JovenComunista [~e1980@201.249.81.219] has joined #ubuntu === fgr [~fgr@host198-200.pool8534.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [04:44] is it possible to mount a iso as a cdrom drive? === henriquemaia [~henriquem@cb-217-129-171-196.netvisao.pt] has joined #ubuntu [04:44] Cerberus, yup :) [04:45] i need an editor (i edit php code) to work with ftp/scp on a remore server. any suggest? [04:46] spanglesontoast: 3 people have told you how [04:46] :- spanglesontoast, mount -t iso9660 -o loop /path/to/iso.iso /mount/point [04:46] fgr: you edit php code *live*? [04:46] no [04:47] I was asking is it possible to mount an iso [04:47] spanglesontoast: so, explain how it isn't working [04:47] as a cdrom drive [04:47] no it's working [04:47] just wondering [04:47] spanglesontoast: that makes no sense [04:47] fgr, just mount the ftp site === sweeze [~sweeze@ip78.asv.sfo.ygnition.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:47] fgr, http://ftpfs.sourceforge.net/ [04:47] well, i have many files on a remote server [04:47] spanglesontoast: what does "like a cdrom drive" mean? [04:47] mount it as /media/cdrom0 [04:47] spanglesontoast: of course, you can mount it wherever you like [04:47] ah ok [04:47] kool [04:47] well, type in /media/cdrom as the /mount/point... [04:47] what ever happened to ubuntu-calendar? haven't seen any new ones since hoary release.... [04:48] :))) [04:48] stimpie, that's an idea. but does an editor supporting ftp/scp exists? i know Jedit can do that, but can find it in repos. [04:48] you can mount ftp ? :o [04:48] s/can/cant [04:49] lufs is in the repos === Dekkard [~right@adsl-67-38-5-174.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu === BROKEN_LADDER [~pral@h-67-101-42-167.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #UBUNTU [04:49] thats not an editor but for mounting ftp === [MUPPETS] Gonzo [gonzo@80.69.47.16] has joined #ubuntu [04:50] fgr: gedit should be able to do that w/ gnome-vfs [04:50] (but not sure if it actually supports writing, come to think of it) === mark2 [~mark2@p83.129.190.107.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #ubuntu === rrh [~rrh@tunnel1.cotse.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:51] it doesn't [04:51] I've ripped out more than one hair because of that ;) [04:52] can i upgrade from warty to hoary by changing the addy for the source files to the hoary cd? [04:52] Dekkard, yeah [04:52] Dekkard: when you insert the hoary cd, it will ask you [04:52] Dekkard: also, read the release notes on the wiki [04:53] koo [04:53] and make sure you have ubuntu-desktop installed [04:53] the metafile? [04:53] yup [04:53] hmmm [04:53] package, yes [04:53] it should be i did a pretty bare install and didnt monkey with it [04:53] its on mums computer === MattS [~msmith@id-cralid-cuda2a-66-13.losaca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu === imaek [~imaek@adsl-69-235-179-220.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:54] guys.. anyone been able to use Xen? [04:55] i havn't tried myself.. but will it work out of the box or will i need to do some tweaking and experimenting? [04:55] if you're not a fairly experienced linux user, you will have a lot of problems [04:55] well i'm a fairly experienced one so it shouldn't be too difficult === ealden [~ealden@219.90.91.117] has joined #ubuntu [04:56] you know how to rebuild kernels using make-kpkg? [04:56] never used ubuntu before, but i know how to rebuild kernels [04:56] well, it'll be a steep curve then [04:57] cant be as steep as going from mandrake to freebsd :) [04:57] what is xen? [04:57] a virtualisation system [04:57] virtualization program. sorta like vmware gsx server === mdke [~mdke@mdke.user] has joined #ubuntu [04:58] it lets you run multiple linux and netbsd systems at once on the same machine [04:58] hi. how can I wipe my MBR from a live cd? [04:58] mdke: well.. if you have a windows bootdisk do fdisk /mbr... i'm sure cfdisk can do this also however [04:58] mdke: why do you want to wipe it? [04:58] I see === ramblingturtle23 [~dude@c-67-185-73-183.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:58] bob2, i'm sending it back to get a quick repair and want to leave it empty === robertj is now known as rob_afk [04:59] mdke: blank the whole disk with dd then [04:59] bob2, the rest is already empty, but if dd works then I'm all ears [04:59] how is it empty? === Goshawk [~vincenzo@host191-98.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu ["Konversation] [05:00] mdke: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/whatever [05:00] oh... use dd to erase like the first 512 bytes of the hard drive or something [05:00] i deleted the partitions with fdisk [05:00] then did you write the new mbr? === jind [~jind@216-220-56.7002.adsl.tele2.no] has joined #ubuntu [05:00] no [05:00] if you deleted the partitions.. it would have asked to write the new mbr, therefore basically deleting them [05:00] well, it says "loading grub" at boot [05:00] there's no point in doing this, btw [05:00] also, if all you did is delete the partitions, all your data is still there [05:00] oh nm... not mbr, partition table :p [05:01] anyone can run "gpart" to reconstruct the partition table and look at your files [05:01] yes.. this is pointless bob2 is right === alerim [~alerim@courbevoie-104-1-146.net1.nerim.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:01] bob2, there is nothing illegal or anything, I just want to avoid any possible hassle they might give me for not using the OS the machine was shipped with [05:01] mdke: right, then run the dd command over the whole disk [05:01] anyone here is using jedit? [05:01] bob2, will do, thanks [05:01] mdke: if=/dev/random of=/dev/hda [05:01] :) [05:02] that will write tons of garbage across the entire hard drive [05:02] ok am doing it [05:02] hmm [05:02] sounds lengthy [05:02] well, it will write 0 all over the disk === ricardo_ [~LV@ALamentin-101-1-10-105.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu [05:02] no.. /dev/zero would :) [05:02] /dev/random will print random junk... cat /dev/random and find out [05:03] thats the command bob2 gave me [05:03] I said /dev/zero [05:03] oh well i said /dev/random :) [05:03] how long will it take do you know? === kudzubane [~kudzubane@69.15.46.10] has joined #ubuntu [05:03] if you want randomness, use /dev/urandom or be prepared to sit and wiggle your mouse all night === din [~din@24.144.4.35] has joined #ubuntu [05:03] they won't reconstruct the data, its just that I want to give them something that won't boot [05:04] right === zzyber [~andreb@h54n7c1o260.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:04] time to get back to work === spiderworm [~spiderwor@70.58.125.120] has joined #ubuntu [05:04] ? for kernel update why would i have to install both 386 and 686 version for the update to be complete [05:04] thanks bob2, MattS [05:04] np [05:04] ramblingturtle23: good question :o === ubuntu [~ubuntu@62.175.84.127] has joined #ubuntu [05:05] hola === Rickie [~rickie@86.112.163.199] has joined #ubuntu [05:05] bob2, any idea how long the dd command will take, very roughly for a 20 gig drive [05:05] Hey guys, how do i shutdown X? [05:05] killall X [05:05] :) [05:06] sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop [05:06] should work on a standard ubuntu install === dabi [~toni@178.Red-83-53-39.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:06] whats the default root password? === Danten [~danten@h201n4c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:06] it never asked me to set one during the install [05:06] MattS, root is disabled by default [05:06] MattS, see the RootSudo document on the wiki [05:06] o.0 [05:06] how can i change my laptop touchpad cursor speed? === ramblingturtle23 [~dude@c-67-185-73-183.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu [] === Laney [~laish@81-178-121-215.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu === ramblingturtle23 [~dude@c-67-185-73-183.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:08] MattS: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo [05:08] :( [05:08] ty === teleyinex [~teleyinex@81-172-44-82.usuarios.retecal.es] has joined #ubuntu === bwlang [~bwlang@faculty2-cis79.unh.edu] has joined #ubuntu === MattS runs sudo passwd [05:10] mdke: ~hour maybe [05:10] shit [05:10] the shop will be closed by then [05:10] bob2, any other way to easily remove grub from my mbr? === bignose_ [6effbc26d5@bignose.ca] has joined #ubuntu === blastmanu [~blastmanu@dyn-83-157-238-126.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #ubuntu === Laney [~laish@81-178-121-215.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu === blastmanu [~blastmanu@dyn-83-157-238-126.ppp.tiscali.fr] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === nebo [~nebo@p5481FA95.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:11] sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst_backup [05:12] sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst [05:12] uncomment #hiddenmenu [05:12] konqueror can display arial,helvetica but for some reason firefox doesn't.. any idea's ? [05:12] that won't remove it, t will just hide it [05:12] reka, i'd rather just wipe it off if possible [05:12] mdke: er, so kill it after a few minutes [05:12] <_hp_> i just inserted one of those usb keychain data things, how do i mount it & use it? [05:12] mdke: ah, ok. geez are computer repairers that snoopy? [05:13] when it's done nuking the beginning [05:13] reka, doubt it [05:13] bob2, ok great [05:13] mdke, you can wipe it easily with dd, but then you will need to replace the bootloader [05:13] that's cool === _Church_of_Foamy [~shane@24-177-160-171.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu === rickie [~rickie@86.112.163.199] has joined #ubuntu [05:14] toni@LygoU:~$ sudo nano toni is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. where can i add my self to sudoers group? [05:14] bob2, yeah it has worked, thanks man [05:14] Sorry guys, what was the command to shutdown X Again? I need to save it >.< [05:15] sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop [05:15] _hp_: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo === shodan_ [~shodan@p54941BD7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu === sijp- is now known as sijp === wasabi_ [~wasabi@207.55.180.100] has joined #ubuntu [05:15] Is there a command to run to recreate /dev? [05:16] <_hp_> reka: that is completely irrelevant to my question ? [05:16] arg, i stopped a skype chat, and now anything i say into my mic comes out of my own speakers. === Howitzer [~adrian@132-206.240.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu [05:16] really frustrating to type. [05:16] Okay === Egil [~Egil@x1-6-00-60-08-2c-b4-7e.k37.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu [05:16] i have a huge sound problem -_- [05:16] _hp_: really? Adding users: To add a new user to sudo, open the "Users and Groups" tool from System --> Adminitration menu. Then click on the user and then on properties. Choose the "User Privleges" tab. In the tab, find "Executing system administration tasks" and check that. [05:16] nothing i try works :/ === Laney [~laish@81-178-121-215.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:17] <_hp_> reka: i was asking about how to mount a usb keychain drive [05:17] Howitzer: what's the problem? === mdke [~mdke@mdke.user] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [05:17] i can't get any sound trough === ivoks [~ivoks@lns01-0483.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu [05:17] i can't see what soundcard i have [05:17] how can i change my laptop touchpad cursor speed? [05:17] _hp_: ah, whoops, apologies. :-( === naderman [~naderman@p508B2F62.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:17] <_hp_> reka: np [05:18] dabi: my last posts were for you [05:18] _hp_: sorry again. :-) [05:18] Howitzer, do you know what type of soundcard you have? === gldfngr [~gldfngr@216.218.97.23] has joined #ubuntu [05:18] nope [05:18] i see some things PCI with 'unknown' [05:18] Howitzer, lspci and see if any of the output looks like a soundcard === scoperesolutoin [~scopereso@12-203-134-12.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:19] Howitzer, did you attempt to get the specs of the model of 'puter you have via google? [05:19] where can i get the latest alsa drivers for my soundcar? [05:19] soundcard* [05:19] kudzbane just type in the model number [05:19] Howitzer, assuming you are not running a vanilla boxen [05:19] ehh === wdfsd [~admin@98-40.118-70.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:19] hi [05:20] can someone help me? === Laney [~laish@81-178-121-215.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:20] what do you need? [05:20] i don't have a 'special model' [05:20] i want to apt-get kde [05:20] what bootloader does ubuntu use by default? grub? [05:20] it's just an assembled pc [05:20] intel ix86 and all that [05:20] hmm is the whole fake root and sudo system been updated? i just installed ubuntu and cant do sudo or access any administrative program from my account.. only doing su and then others [05:20] wdfsd: you need to install kubuntu-desktop iirc [05:20] Howitzer, i assume you didn't put it together, since you don't what what hardware the soundcard is [05:21] 0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8 237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60) [05:21] how? [05:21] it was pre-assembled [05:21] Howitzer, okay, that looks better [05:21] wdfsd: um, i'd get confirmation first from someone else [05:21] Where can i find the latest Alsa Drivers for my soundcard? [05:21] but how do i get it? [05:21] it must be frustrating to be dealing with noobs like me :/ [05:21] Howitzer, looks like a generic ac97 onboard card === Laney [~laish@81-178-121-215.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:21] I am still somewhat a noob [05:22] so i need to find linux drivers for a generic ac97 onboard card? [05:22] No wait [05:22] wdfsd sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop [05:22] oh no, it's okay [05:22] the onboard sound if its ac91 is alas [05:23] ac97 even [05:23] Howitzer, it is supported by alsa (http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?module=via82xx) [05:23] admin@98-40:~ $ sudo apt-get install kubuntu-deskto [05:23] Reading Package Lists... Done [05:23] Building Dependency Tree... Done [05:23] E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-deskto [05:23] admin@98-40:~ $ === pmazer [~pmazer@c-67-191-170-172.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:23] ;\ === bijikucing [~aaa@202.47.65.137] has joined #ubuntu [05:23] wdfsd typo [05:23] Howitzer, see, the distro helped you :) === garrut [~gerrit@garrut.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu [05:23] ? [05:23] admin@98-40:~ $ sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop [05:23] Reading Package Lists... Done [05:23] Building Dependency Tree... Done [05:23] E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop [05:23] admin@98-40:~ $ === martinhj [~martinhj@host-81-191-103-214.bluecom.no] has joined #ubuntu [05:23] how do you mean? [05:23] where can i find the latest alsa drivers for my soundcard, Creative Soundblaster Live 24bit [05:23] any specific reason why ubuntu would need me to put the installation cd in the drive when installing something like... openssh... is it downloading it or installing it from the cd? [05:23] random__ you need to get emu10k1 as well [05:23] Howitzer, you said it is working, right? [05:24] noonoo [05:24] i referred to something else === ricardo_ [~LV@ALamentin-101-1-10-105.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [05:24] what is that and what does it do for me? [05:24] and how do i get it? [05:24] its the driver for creative cards [05:24] i thought i had another soundcard then ob one [05:24] oh [05:24] ok [05:24] well thats kinda hard [05:24] how do i get it? [05:24] wdfsd first do http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto then try again [05:24] with ubuntu you have to get the linux headers [05:24] hold on i'll get you the link I used [05:24] ok [05:25] wdfsd are you running warty? [05:25] MattS: remove the cdrom source from sources.list to specifiy packages to be installed only from online sources [05:25] comment it out even === dwa_ [~dwa@dwa.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu [05:26] random__: I used the info on this page to get my audigy 2 working [05:26] http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21211 [05:26] Howitzer: you get no sound at all? [05:26] anyone know of a dvd ripper and encoder for linux? === something_else [~something@82-35-42-201.cable.ubr02.camd.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu === _Church_of_Foamy [~shane@24-177-160-171.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:27] reka indeed [05:28] scoperesolutoin: there's one listed on ubuntuguide. haven't used it though === seb128 [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-15-72.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu === TiffOn [user@218.Red-217-126-197.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:28] ok === gaelle [~gaelle@ARennes-351-1-45-45.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu === NemesisBLK [~Menes@24-205-166-140.wc-eres.charterpipeline.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:28] does anyone use KDevelop3 for C programming here ? === ksm89 [~ksm89@71-208-112-27.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu === yahalom [~amichai@bzq-218-123-68.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:29] hey reka do you know what its called off hand? [05:29] Howitzer: running gnome? [05:29] yes [05:29] guys... any place where i can search the database.. or command with apt-get (i'm more of a slackware/freebsd person so i dont really use apt-get.... at all) [05:29] scoperesolutoin: dvd ripper, it seems [05:29] the dvd::rip GUI [05:30] MattS: apt-get search [05:30] is fantastic [05:30] ty [05:30] MattS apt-cache search will search the packge database === encKe` [~cosm0z@ppp-65-67-227-161.ded.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:30] Howitzer: i was going to recommend http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly [05:30] can someone get me the debian repository list? [05:30] scoperesolutoin, try dvdrip [05:30] Howitzer: but that method seems to work best when you at least get some sound === telemaco [~telemaco@26.Red-83-34-204.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:30] scoperesolutoin, 'sudo apt-get install dvdrip' [05:30] MattS: sorry, nickrud's command is correct [05:30] already tried that actually :/ [05:31] Howitzer: ah. [05:31] pfoe === blastmanu_ [~blastmanu@dyn-83-157-238-126.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #ubuntu [05:31] exit [05:31] humm.... no bridge-utils :o === pepsi [~pepsi@72-254-48-97.client.stsn.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:31] oops === ramblingturtle23 [~dude@c-67-185-73-183.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu [] === blastmanu_ [~blastmanu@dyn-83-157-238-126.ppp.tiscali.fr] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [05:32] anybody got ming-0.3?! deb-packages for hoary?! [05:32] Howitzer: ask thoreauputic when he's in here. he might be able to help. [05:32] anyone here use evolution? [05:32] okay [05:33] wdfsd http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ExampleConffiles === SamuelGZ [~usuario@cm213040.red.mundo-r.com] has joined #ubuntu === SamuelGZ [~usuario@cm213040.red.mundo-r.com] has left #ubuntu ["Abandonando"] === ramblingturtle23 [~dude@c-67-185-73-183.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === zirpu [~allan@nefud.org] has left #ubuntu [] [05:33] yahalom yes, for a long time [05:33] I wish i was some linux know-all whizzkid :( [05:34] Howitzer: heh. who are you referring to? [05:34] no-one [05:34] Howitzer: what sound card do you actually have? [05:35] ehh [05:35] some onboard thingy [05:35] Howitzer: stop guessing. run lspci === bignose_ [6effbc26d5@bignose.ca] has left #ubuntu [] [05:35] 0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8 237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60) [05:36] so use the alsa ac97 module :o... i'll give you the name === rickie [~rickie@86.112.163.199] has joined #ubuntu [05:36] there is no such thign as an ac97 module [05:36] the driver for that is snd-via82xx [05:36] nickrud, anyway of getting evolution to check my e-mail on startup? === samuel [~samuel@201.137.136.3] has joined #ubuntu === fabio [~fabio@host217-43-3-175.range217-43.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:36] sup all [05:36] :/ [05:36] well more accurately, there is an ac97 module, but loading just that won't do you any good [05:37] nickrud, like when i open to app, withouth having to manually click receive [05:37] justin, i already linked Howitzer that alsa info [05:37] yes [05:37] but what to mke of it? [05:37] On windows i can use 1152*864 @ 72hz (Looks better then 75, to me anyways) and on Ubuntu i can only do 75, and i know i have the nvidia drivers cos i get that nVidia logo at startup === Rockett17 [~srockett@CPE0011097dafa9-CM00e06f1b4b12.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:38] it says about updating the ALSA driver, but do i even have the driver? :/ [05:38] yahalom in the preferences for each mail account, in the receiving mail tab, there's a [05:38] anyone here know what might be going on with cups? it prints fine from the localhost, but when i try to print from another computer it just makes noises, like its getting ready to print and doesnt do anything... i think its connecting properly since it does make the noises, and i can telnet into cups, but what gives? [05:38] Howitzer: what exactly about your sound doesn't work? === _linuxAS_ [~linuxAS@cmbe-212-89-16-88.telecable.es] has joined #ubuntu [05:38] i don't get any sound. === AnguS [~Hal9000@vpn-9-171.rz.uni-mannheim.de] has joined #ubuntu [05:39] that sure sounds like a volume problem to me [05:39] i don't recieve any warnings whatsoever [05:39] an option for checking mail automatically; I think that if it's selected, it will check on startup and at the interval specified [05:39] has anyone tried to encode dvds in linux? [05:39] + [05:40] hello! i have mailman running on my server, and i keep getting email messages containing this error: /var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py:175: DeprecationWarning: get_type() deprecated; use get_content_type() [05:40] ctype = part.get_type(part.get_default_type())... what can i do to solve this? i tried reinstalling mailman but it doesn't help :( === r4ndy [~r4ndy@a1570a14ad7d8aff.session.tor] has joined #ubuntu [05:40] when i try to play a CD in cd player === Heart| [~jzdgc@p549C380B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu [05:40] Howitzer: i think the ubuntuguide fix tells you to install the alsa driver: something like libesd-alsa0 [05:40] On windows i can use 1152*864 @ 72hz (Looks better then 75, to me anyways) and on Ubuntu i can only do 75, and i know i have the nvidia drivers cos i get that nVidia logo at startup, how can i use 72hz in Ubuntu? [05:40] so you've got it installed [05:40] nickrud, i only see an option to check the e-mail at intervals [05:40] yup it does [05:40] just though i would through it out there i download the ubuntu live dvd and it would not burn at all for me [05:40] Howitzer: um, did you connect your cdrom drive to your sound card when you built your computer? [05:41] morning [05:41] yahalom I'm not sure. I keep my mail in imap, so when evolution starts I automatically see any new mail [05:42] yahalom :) === i3dmaster [~yongjian@bi01p1.co.us.ibm.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:42] Howitzer: something to check: apps->soung->vol. control->file->change device to the alsa one [05:43] nickrud, so u dont have pop accounts? [05:43] if it isn't yet [05:43] hey wait [05:43] yahalom yes, I pull my pop mail in, and put it in imap on my machine. [05:43] something shows up there [05:43] h iall [05:43] Howitzer: where? [05:43] if i want to use kde i have to install kubuntu, haven't i? [05:43] C-Media Electronics (OSS Mixer) [05:43] nickrud, how? [05:44] Heart|, nope [05:44] Heart|: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop [05:44] at the change device menu [05:44] Genius WEBCam V4 [05:44] yahalom with fetchmail, procmail, and courier-imap [05:44] thats all? [05:44] Heart|, if you want to use KDE only u don't need Kubuntu [05:44] ???? [05:44] Heart|: yes [05:44] the other one is VIA 8237 (Alsa Mixer) [05:44] Howitzer: doesn't matter. i've got an oss mixer device as well [05:44] nickrud, ah so a whole bunch of scripts u setup in terminal? [05:45] Howitzer: i'm using the alsa one [05:45] k :) but whats the difference then between kubuntu and ubuntu!? === benJIman [~benJIman@137.205.24.178] has joined #ubuntu [05:45] yes, but the C-Media was my Windows Driver [05:45] Heart|, if u using Ubuntu and want to try KDE as well try to do it via Synaptic [05:45] yahalom yes. [05:45] hmm [05:45] Howitzer: another check: have you rebooted after doing the sound fix? [05:45] wit [05:45] yep === benJIman [~benJIman@137.205.24.178] has left #ubuntu ["Live] [05:45] Heart|, mainly Kubuntu uses KDE when Ubuntu uses Gnome [05:45] Heart|: i guess kubuntu is just ubuntu - gnome + kubuntu-desktop [05:46] yahalom it's not real difficult, the only pain is procmail. I've heard that getmail is a better program for sorting mail, [05:46] Heart|: so if you have ubuntu just do apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and you have both gnome and kde to choose from [05:46] but I === mauro [~mauro@dsl-200-67-236-216.prod-empresarial.com.mx] has joined #ubuntu [05:46] Heart|, yes AnguS is right [05:46] Howitzer: um, did you connect your cdrom drive to your sound card when you built your computer? [05:46] ve been using procmail for a long time and know it just enough [05:46] Heart|, is what I am running on my sys [05:46] ehh [05:46] not that i know actully [05:46] when i start from zero and want kde instead of gnome i choose kubuntu? [05:46] justin, he didn't build his computer [05:46] yesterday i could play cd's in windows [05:47] oh god i'm such a noob -_- [05:47] i'm making myself depressed ffs :/ [05:47] Howitzer, it isn't an indication of whether the audio cable is attached or not [05:47] i checked everything hardware-related [05:47] Heart|, mainly yes [05:48] yahalom the reason I use imap is I can read it with evolution, kmail, thunderbird, or mutt, and if I ever go mobile I can read it on the road [05:48] but packages are all the same in kubuntu/ubuntu!? [05:48] all cables are stuck in correctly, power is on, [05:48] Heart|, yes, u can use Synaptic too [05:48] Howitzer: i didn't ask about all the cables, I asked about the one that goes from your cdrom drive to your sound card [05:48] ooh [05:48] Howitzer: have you tested other methods than cd playing. mp3s? system sound? [05:48] well [05:48] ehh [05:48] windows will use DAE for playing an audio cd, don't know of any of the linux ones default to that.. though xmms can do it [05:48] system sound doesn't work either === synic [~synic@66.239.17.226.ptr.us.xo.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:49] Howitzer: "doesn't work"? [05:49] and i have an onboard soundcard justin [05:49] Heart|, I am using gnome and kde on my sys, but I mainly prefer Gnome, KDE seems a little buggy and much slower [05:49] well [05:49] i do not recieve any sound [05:49] Howitzer, do you know how to open a term? [05:49] Heart|, but that's a personal opinion, try out and choose which is the best for you [05:49] yes [05:49] ok, thanks... i think i'll give it a try [05:49] Howitzer, fire one up [05:49] i know how to work in one too ! === lftsy [~lftsy@157.159.40.124] has joined #ubuntu [05:50] Howitzer, see if this command works for ya, alsamixer [05:50] hehe. yeah guys, give him some credit [05:50] it does === IcemanV9 [~nobody@adsl-68-79-59-59.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu === deFrysk [~deFrysk@f213190.upc-f.chello.nl] has joined #ubuntu [05:50] i get all these fancy stats [05:50] reka, are the volumes up? [05:50] kudzubane: i dunno. [05:50] Howitzer, that last one was meant for you [05:50] :-) [05:51] i figured that out :D [05:51] and yes [05:51] only [05:51] reka, can never assume skill level [05:51] Surround is [OFF] [05:51] kudzubane: he ran lspci before [05:51] one question left... is there "control-center/gui" for configure eg wlan network or do i have it to do on console? [05:51] my skill is on a scale of 100: 2 [05:51] no [05:51] lets say 7% === bassMonkey [~fgrano@dsl-hkigw3o4f.dial.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu [05:51] reka, could have read that off a google article [05:51] Howitzer: is this your first distro? [05:52] http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=204461#post204461 [05:52] the first one that is succesfully working yes [05:52] Debian Sarge was the previous one === garrut [~gerrit@garrut.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu === reka wonders what the other ones were like [05:52] okay, make sure pcm and master channels are not muted in alsamixer [05:52] but the X-Shell failed after install [05:52] ah === |Ivanch0| [~blas@80.103.124.136] has joined #ubuntu [05:53] both are on [05:53] <- ubuntu pre-newb [05:53] Howitzer, ok, esp to leave alsamixer === kain [~kain@ip-72-109.sn2.eutelia.it] has left #ubuntu ["kuht.it] [05:53] done [05:54] do you have a an mp3 or something you can play? === Nordkopf [~kahl@p548E0805.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu [05:54] s/an/a/ [05:54] i'm in the middle of selecting one :) === zongzi [~w00t@61-216-109-94.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:55] Howitzer, do you have a console-based player installed (like mpg321 or the liked) === e-head [aazpak@pcp900891pcs.cnorth01.va.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:55] Totem kan 'file:///media/windows/Documents and Settings/Adrian/Mijn documenten/Musica/Full Albums/System_Of_A_Down-Mezmerize-2005-RNS/05-system_of_a_down-radio-video.mp3' niet afspelen. [05:55] hey kids ! [05:55] rickie if you're using gnome, and X recognizes the 72hz version, you can should be able to select it in system-prefs-screen resolution [05:55] uhm [05:55] not that i know off [05:55] uhm [05:55] i'll see [05:55] hi [05:55] I'm wondering why I can only find source for kernel up to 2.6.7 ? === bkinman [~bkinman@office-ip-brdn.pacific.net] has joined #ubuntu === WhiteRabbit [~3am@whiterabbit.user] has joined #ubuntu [05:56] when uname -a returns 2.6.10 ? [05:56] I can't find patches above 2.6.7 either ... [05:56] i did a apt-get update ... [05:56] where is the newer source ? === bhna [~andreas@p54B8295F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu [05:56] does anybody give a damn ? === jiyuu0 [~jiyuu0@219.95.246.152] has joined #ubuntu [05:57] e-head: apt-cache search came up with linux-source-2.6.1, so there's definitely newer ones in the repos [05:57] 2.6.11 rather :-) [05:57] reka, lol [05:57] reka: ahh ... what's the repos ? [05:57] e-head: what version of ubuntu do you have... i guess 4.10? [05:57] hmmm ... i'm not even sure ... hold on. [05:57] whats the name of the app to oc your nvidia gfx card ? [05:58] e-head: repositories === _bt [~bt@monkeytronics.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [05:58] hmmm. still don't know. :) [05:58] uname -a returns: Linux tokyo 2.6.10-3-386 #1 Tue Feb 15 21:18:07 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux [05:58] e-head: cat /etc/issue [05:58] maybe... [05:58] Ubuntu 5.04 "Hoary Hedgehog" Development Branch [05:59] i got a wild hair up my ass and did a "apt-get upgrade" a while back ... [05:59] it was exhilirating ... [05:59] i just bought a mac === hno73 [~hno73@henrik.gotadsl.co.uk] has left #ubuntu [] [05:59] Howitzer, were you able to locate and install the mpg321 package? [05:59] and i was wondering, is there anything like the mac dock for linux? [05:59] but [05:59] mpg321 is an addon for mpg123 :/ [06:00] reka: where can i access these repositories ? [06:00] whats the name of the app to oc your nvidia gfx card ? that u can apt-get with ubuntu [06:00] Howitzer, ? can you run mpg123? [06:00] e-head: probably you have something wron in /etc/apt/sources.list [06:00] doesn't exist [06:01] samiam: like a starter bar? i think gdesklets has one, but i'd look around for alternatives as i've seen a few complaints about them not working [06:01] oh god [06:01] ahh .. [06:01] AnguS: ahh ... i bet that's it ... === Invisible [~Invisible@82.114.73.1] has joined #ubuntu [06:01] samuel: os x :) === keikoz [~keikoz@vol75-6-82-227-148-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:02] e-head: i pm'd you a correct sources.list file [06:02] AnguS: thanks man ... i have all "warty" stuff in there ... that must be it ... [06:02] e-head: i think they would be in universe or multiverse [06:02] e-head: that surelly is ;) [06:02] e-head: yes, probably. :-) [06:02] AnguS: i'll replace them with those lines you pm'd me ... [06:02] Who lives in a pineapple under the sea! [06:02] why am i such noob ffs [06:02] reka, i see... thx [06:03] samuel: superkaramba [06:03] i've heard [06:03] goldfish, superkaramba? ill look into that, thanks! [06:03] Howitzer, install mpg321 === bcroq [~bertrand@sud35-1-82-67-113-39.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:03] Howitzer, why is that so important to you? [06:04] well [06:04] Howitzer: everyone starts as a n00b [06:04] e-head: when youre done make apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade [06:04] because i have to be here nd irritate people that would like to help me while i don't understand :x [06:05] i don't even know how to install the mpg321, i have this control.tar.gz data.tar.gz and debian-binary [06:05] Howitzer, in ubuntu, you can just select the packge in a gui package selector [06:05] Howitzer: use the ubuntu repositories! === mpq [~mpq@c-24-22-133-235.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:05] okay === ming [~ming@d137-186-243-195.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu === Mrk [~Mrk@the67-1-82-227-77-204.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:06] reka, check what i'm telling Howitzer, i haven't installed ubuntu yet [06:06] Howitzer, start 'synaptic package manager' from System > administration [06:06] Howitzer, it's really easy to use [06:06] kudzubane: yes that's right. he can use synaptic [06:06] Howitzer, just read what it tells you, and you'll be able to install anything your heart desires :) [06:06] isn't that the updating system? [06:06] Howitzer, also [06:07] Howitzer, but you can use it to install new software too [06:07] oaky [06:07] so i need an unpacker [06:07] Howitzer, package management, to be precise, it performs many functions === Bramme [~bram@90-146.240.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu [06:07] Howitzer, just click around in it, you'll find it... also, read www.ubuntuguide.org [06:07] alright ... === Rockett17 [~srockett@CPE0011097dafa9-CM00e06f1b4b12.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:07] now, i see 2.6.10 ... which is what i am running. [06:07] Howitzer, very, very complete guide on 'how to pimp my ubuntu hoary' [06:07] was there ever an ubuntu 2.6.9 though ? [06:08] lol [06:08] i sort of need either 2.6.9 or 2.6.8.1 .... [06:08] problem is also [06:08] i can't find source for either of these ... [06:08] Howitzer, one word of caution though, it says somewhere to install the 'ubuntu backports' apt source, don't do that [06:08] Howitzer: no. most programs you'll need you can install through synaptic. you don't need to download programs from websites ala windows anymore. [06:08] Howitzer, it'll probably wreck your system [06:08] in hoary or warty. it seems they jumped from 2.6.7 to 2.6.10 === fredfish [~Fred@a80-186-235-18.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu [06:08] i'm using a dutch translation, and i can't translate it to dutch : [06:09] Does anybody know what "subpixel smoothing" equivalent is called in /etc/fonts/local.conf? Now I managed to get "antialias" for fontsize bigger than 16 but I think subpixel smoothing would be better than antialias, or am I lost? [06:09] Howitzer, lucky for you I speak dutch :) there is also #ubuntu-nl === Pixel83 [~pixel@p54AAE166.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:09] cool [06:09] fredfish: why are you editing that file instead of just using the gnome-font-properties thing? [06:09] TMM: OT: have you seen austin powers: goldmember? === wawa [~wawa@i-83-67-16-40.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu === drx [~drx@h21n2fls307o285.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:10] reka, yeah, I love austin powers :) [06:10] i found it boss ! [06:10] there is a 2.6.8.1 .... [06:11] I installed tahoma etc evil fonts (that look very crisp:). They need to be without AA, so I turned on AA for fonts bigger than 16px to get big text look better. === suvi [~suvi@DWM-143-161.go.retevision.es] has joined #Ubuntu === Quartus [Quartus@c-c685e255.54-2-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu === codingmaster [~codingmas@p54A52621.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu === ilba7r [~ilba7r@d141-64-4.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:12] hey people [06:12] key peoples [06:12] fredfish: subpixel smoothing is for lcds i think [06:12] I've a strange error (using Ubuntu Breezy) === beyond is now known as beyond-out [06:12] it says so in the gnome font thing [06:12] Hi I just installed kubuntu on my laptop and is trying to configure my ATI Radeon 9700 Mobility card, i found this page http://www.student.dtu.dk/~s971652/ati_radeon.shtml but unfortunatly it doesn't work, fglrx module is loaded and i have changed my xorg.conf file but i still get the Mesa info if i type fglrxinfo === JohnDong [~jdong@d149-67-171-99.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:13] I know that Breezy is really unstable, but I use it for software development === neoplasticity [neoplastic@pc237h30-021.med.unc.edu] has joined #ubuntu [06:13] reka: yes, i have a lcd display. Antialias looks somewhat funny === Pop_pa_FrEaK [~patrick@CPE000ae6c702bb-CM000e5ce665ba.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:13] yeah i believe it's similar to cleartype on xp [06:13] the strange thing is, that since a few days the half of my keyboard isn't working [06:13] like at key, and also the keys alt+"a key" [06:14] drx: read the xorg log in /var/log/ [06:14] ok [06:14] $startx 2>mm [06:14] codingmaster: I had some issues with local (Finnish) keyboard, but I installed it again and it worked [06:15] what did you install again / breezy / or keyboard layout? [06:15] $nano mm [06:15] mergeant is crap :( === tommi^ [~sir@dsl-sjkgw2c6a.dial.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu [06:15] I've tried to change it a bit via the configuration menu in gnome, it crashes due the error [06:16] XServer configuration is allright (it also worked a few days ago, just an upgrade breaked xkb) [06:16] This Ubuntu is sooo cool, I will never go back for windows! Thanks to whoever is responsible for this! [06:16] ok [06:16] drx: what does lsmod | grep "fglrx" return? [06:17] so... thank the debian guys, the ubuntu developers, and spaceman? === ompaul [~ompaul@213-202-187-146.bas504.dsl.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu === Trixsey [~trixsey@c-1f9072d5.012-2011-73746f31.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu [06:17] codingmaster: I am on 5.04 level still... I reinstalled keyboard layout === Detten [~Detten@d51531C2A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu [06:17] ok [06:17] I'm having a problem with Ubuntu contra BIOS/CMOS, anyone think they might be able to help? [06:17] well, I'm on Breezy [06:17] justin: it says it can't set the AGP mode === suvi [~suvi@DWM-143-161.go.retevision.es] has left #Ubuntu ["Abandonando"] [06:18] reka: its loaded [06:18] xkb seems to have changed since the upgrade [06:18] someone how to enable the euro key -5 on my keyboard? [06:18] how do I turn this /two/ubuntu-5.04-live-i386.iso into a booting live cd [06:18] from within ubuntu [06:19] ompaul: you could try k3b, if it is installed [06:19] that's probably the easiest way === xterminus [~cmauch@c-24-19-125-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:19] stimpie, you need to do +4 :) [06:19] ompaul: or gnomebaker or xcdroast for a non-kde proggy. :-) [06:19] ompaul you should be able to right click the iso and burn it [06:19] BIOS/CMOS clock != Ubutu clock... Ubuntu clock WAS wrong, now its right... Fixed both clocks... Ubuntu keeps resetting the "hardware clock".... Anyone knows how to fix it? [06:19] stimpie, on my its alt-e [06:20] first it is gnome [06:20] and second lets try Nickrud first up, === ToutPT [~toutpt@ANantes-151-1-18-83.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu [06:20] hmm none of them are working, ill check my keyboard settings === Arrogance [~aks@CPE0013104c07d6-CM001225423850.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:21] I'm getting: Error during the activation of the XKB configuration [06:21] Trixsey, let me guess, you hw clock is set to local time === JanC [~janc@dD5764BD1.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu === nobile [~nuni@65.165.85.42] has joined #ubuntu [06:21] i don't get any audio out of my tv card, I've been struggling for hours but couldn't get it working... :( cable is connected, mixer is up to the max... and it works on windows... any ideas? === nutorian [~nutorian@pool-71-101-199-65.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:22] check whether the kernel modul for your soundcard is loaded [06:22] lsmod [06:22] when not [06:22] ompaul: "graveman" can burn oversize cds on gnome [06:22] insmod modulname [06:22] and then try again [06:22] so using nautilus I could get it onto the CD with a right click on the image - lets see if it boots :) [06:22] AnguS: which mixer? === we2by [~we2by@dc5146d009.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu === ramblingturtle23 [~dude@c-67-185-73-183.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:23] kudzubane, my hw clock is set to current local time, my clock in ubuntu is too [06:23] Trixsey, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/helpcenterfaq.2004-10-20.4373491988 [06:23] at restart, the hw clock is changed, -2 hours [06:23] fredfish, that is interesting === Howitzer [~adrian@132-206.240.81.adsl.skynet.be] has left #ubuntu ["I'm] [06:23] Trixsey, try that :) [06:23] I dont have windows [06:23] Trixsey: your timezone is probably messed up === ompaul notes that I do not have any oversize CDs that I know of, mostly ubuntu knoppix and kanotix === digitus [~timo@dsl-084-056-243-114.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:24] Trixsey, doesn't matter [06:24] since I know that it loads the clock, then syncs to an ntp server, then saves it to the hw clock === Genghis [~Genghis@cl-69.bru-01.be.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:24] I have the correct time zone [06:24] And I have the correct time [06:24] Trixsey, the UTC setting determines the right time offset from GMT [06:24] In Ubuntu [06:24] Trixsey, interesting === thotypous [~thotypous@201-26-175-236.dial-up.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu [06:24] I'll just try the URL you sent me [06:24] =) === ChinaCatJones [~chris@pool-71-111-176-217.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu === lalo_ [~lalo@243.Red-217-126-27.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:25] Trixsey, try it, if it doesn't work, we'll try something else :) [06:25] :) === lalo_ [~lalo@243.Red-217-126-27.pooles.rima-tde.net] has left #ubuntu ["Abandonando"] === andax [~andax@3e44a54b.adsl.enternet.hu] has joined #ubuntu === S2 [~s2@host125-43.pool8250.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu === magnon [~magnon@magnon.photogeeks] has left #ubuntu [] === magnon [~magnon@magnon.photogeeks] has joined #ubuntu === monchy [~monchy@S010600e04c400007.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu === ompaul tests by reboot === sproingie [~chuck@64-121-15-14.c3-0.sfrn-ubr8.sfrn.ca.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu === ubuntu [~ubuntu@84-122-242-237.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu === S2 is now known as \S2 [06:27] how can I run 2 X sessions at the same time on a single computer? I mean something like .. I have a local gnome desktop on "alt+f7" , and i'd like to see another computer's destop on alt+f8. (both are ubuntu distros, and XDMPC is enabled) === Ti_Uhl [~domenique@dD5E040D0.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu [06:28] hello [06:28] does someone have problems with xkb after upgrading the packages [06:28] where can i find the source files of users-admin ? [06:28] so X -query ipaddress works, but it would be nicer to have 2 desktops at the same time on a different console [06:28] the user and group tool in ubuntu ? [06:28] breezy ---> alt keys + alt + "key" and "at" also other keys do not work anymore === orospakr [~orospakr@ip-182.81.126.206.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has joined #ubuntu === orospakr_ [~orospakr@ip-182.81.126.206.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:29] or a nested x server would also do but I don't know how to install it [06:30] andax I think apps->system-tools->new login will work [06:30] andax iirc it starts on alt-f8 === eddro [~eddro@84.217.134.152] has joined #ubuntu [06:30] oh i'll try it thanks [06:31] the user and group tool in ubuntu ? anyone ? === gianni [~gianni@213-140-22-71.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:31] nickrud, wow great :) [06:31] where can i find the source for it ? [06:31] hi@all [06:31] now i just need to somehow enable to xdmpc chooser in gdm, how to do that? === iceonnet [~iceonnet@dsl222-201.adsl.no] has joined #ubuntu [06:32] can someone help me installing video drivers? [06:32] andax, system-admin-login setip [06:32] i dunno which version i need, i mean i have an ati rad 9600 pro and i arrived to this page https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=27 [06:32] andax I think [06:32] anyone know of a program that will let me layout some objects which are spaced out fairly evenly? [06:32] but i dunno how to go on [06:33] giannit the ati driver's should work fine for 2d. i assume you want 3d support? [06:33] yes, and i want a better resolution [06:33] 1280x1024 like i use in winzoz :P [06:34] nickrud, thanks it's working :) [06:34] gianni: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto [06:34] gianni: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowTo [06:35] andax np, especially since I'd misread the question to start with :) [06:35] thx a lot, i will see... i'm so dumb with linux === Leghk [~kislo@c-65-96-209-153.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:35] but i want to use it and fu*k off win === SamuelGZ [~usuario@cm213040.red.mundo-r.com] has joined #ubuntu === something_else [~something@82-35-42-201.cable.ubr02.camd.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [06:35] actually the xdmpc chooser menu appears on the login screen by pressing F10, but after selecting it, the "f8" screen just dies and i'm dropped back to "f7" === SamuelGZ [~usuario@cm213040.red.mundo-r.com] has left #ubuntu ["Abandonando"] [06:35] so i't almost ok :) [06:35] gianni: well, i wouldn't ditch it altogether. [06:36] exit === Quartus [Quartus@c-c685e255.54-2-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has left #ubuntu [] === spine55 [~spine@69.15.212.218] has joined #ubuntu [06:36] andax I've never run two boxes like that, so we're over my head ;) === omaru [~omaru@200.79.203.190.cableonline.com.mx] has joined #ubuntu [06:37] but isn't that cool? :))) [06:37] I've got an AMD64 architecture question, specifically I need to find libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 for it [06:37] at least the idea, and it actually could work :) === Jeezis [~roger@jeezis.user] has joined #ubuntu [06:37] I'm pretty sure there's a i386 package for it in universe.. but I don't know if I should just install that, or keep hunting === maxo [~maxo@82.109.76.226] has joined #ubuntu === IIIEars [~bill@cpe-24-30-191-199.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:39] (or if I *can* even install an i386 arch package) === Vixus [~vixus@82-41-122-60.cable.ubr01.glen.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu === geetergod [~geetergod@cpe-66-24-86-121.stny.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:39] is there a simple mspaint like app for ubuntu? [06:39] What was the command for Aterm to check the specs of my computer? i forgot... [06:39] .... [06:40] brain fart :( [06:40] UNAME ?????? [06:40] Vixus: not really simple.... but the gimp comes preinstalled [06:40] hello === xuzo [~xuzo@bolgo.cent.uji.es] has joined #ubuntu [06:40] reka: gimp is way too complex for the stuff I want to do... ie. I'm competing in an MSPaint battle.... :D [06:40] is there a real simple pain sort of thing as part of open office ? [06:40] I've got a problem - every time I start ubuntu, I have to reconfigure my wireless network settings in order to bring it up, it won't happen on startup, and I don't know how to change this? === Ottoman [~bla@d51A527F3.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu [06:41] hi [06:41] Vixus: ah. i can't recommend one, but you can use synaptic's sectioning and filter by graphics applications. [06:41] to possibly find one. [06:41] does anyone know how to merge free space with my linux ext 3 partition to make it bigger? [06:41] signius oodraw is part of openoffice [06:41] anyone know of a linux program even close to indesign? [06:41] maybe that will suit the requirements [06:42] whats the command to check the specs on my computer? [06:42] Ottoman: gparted === sijp is now known as sijp- === erUSUL [~erusul@il-93.arrakis.es] has joined #ubuntu === merhojt [~jimmy@h200n1c1o885.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:43] gparted gives a segmentation fault and won't start :s [06:43] and qtparted won't work as well [06:43] geetergod: depends on the specs, cat /proc/cpuinfo may be what you're looking for, uname -a may be aswell === sijp- is now known as sijp-doing-exe3 === SlackFart [~el_fart0@soundscape.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu [06:43] does anyone know why ubuntu doesn't remember my wifi settings? === xxtreme [~xxtreme@216.189.182.148] has joined #ubuntu [06:43] Ottoman: well, don't they just use different frontends? [06:44] same thing underneath [06:44] just like what how much ram and have and stuff [06:44] ottoman: e2fsadm... or if you're using LVM, evmsn [06:44] reka: Ok, I'll take a look. Thanks [06:44] reka, qtparted starts, but gparted doesnt [06:44] processor speed er whatever [06:44] Ottoman: ah. :-) [06:45] and qtparted doesnt give me the option of resizing my ext3 partition [06:45] reka: I found kolourpaint :P [06:45] hm, its not uname -a or uname -m === andax [~andax@3e44a54b.adsl.enternet.hu] has joined #ubuntu [06:46] Vixus: goodo. :-) === neighborlee [~neighborl@d3-38.rb2.gh.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:46] reka: It'll run on gnome/ [06:46] geetergod: cat /proc/cpuinfo [06:46] thats it! [06:46] gettergod: cat /proc/meminfo [06:46] duh, sorry [06:47] okay it's working by starting gdm normally, then going to the F1 console and typing X :2 -query ipaddress, and now I have a local desktop on F7 and a remote on F8 . it's GREAT :) [06:47] Vixus: personally, i'd look for a non-kde app, but that's just me === beyond-out is now known as beyond === XhyldazhK [~ubuntu@dsl-200-67-173-174.prod-empresarial.com.mx] has joined #ubuntu === bigbootay [~bigbootay@207.61.210.167] has joined #ubuntu [06:47] reka: No such luck? gPaint? XD [06:47] hi all... === _hp_ [~hp@c-24-91-236-187.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:48] I can't even create a new partition from the free space with qtparted [06:48] I updated my kernel and now my box refuses to boot, gets a kernel panic trying to mount root fs... anyone can help me? [06:48] Vixus: i'd go for that. i haven't had good experiences with kde apps in gnome. :-/ [06:49] reka: I was guessing, I never knew there was such a prog. :D === aLeSD [~alex@213-140-22-72.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:49] Vixus: there is. i just searched for it :-) [06:49] XhyldazhK: updated your kernel how? === bhna [~andreas@p54B8295F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #ubuntu ["Konversation] [06:51] justin: through the panel applet === prolli [~olli@dsl-082-082-140-124.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu === mage__ [~mage@ppp85-140-56-161.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #ubuntu [06:52] reka: Heh, awesome, works === andax [~andax@3e44a54b.adsl.enternet.hu] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === mxpxpod [~BryanForb@wuw-ojr3gmca.dybb.com] has joined #ubuntu === cyberix [~cyberix@hki2-6-3-fb.hoasnet.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu [06:53] I can't dri to work. xorg tells me (EE) MGA(0): [drm] DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI. === BockBilbo [~Bock@85.84.43.70] has joined #ubuntu === Danten [~danten@h50n11c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:56] cyberix, DRI is suppposed to be removed for accelerated drivers, in case that is your goal..otherwise maybe its not enabled in kernel ? === shausman [~shausman@rhea.troll.no] has joined #ubuntu === shausman [~shausman@rhea.troll.no] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [06:56] neighborlee: I got the latest breezy kernel === spiral [~spiral@lafilaire-4-82-224-249-43.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:57] ah..breezy... === lurah is now known as lurah|off [06:57] neighborlee; how's your computer? [06:57] all bets are off then due to it being very development branch [06:57] desrt, why do you ask.. [06:57] desrt, faik..just fine ;-)) [06:58] oh. thought you were running breezy. nm. === sobersabre [~bilbo@l192-115-16-116.broadband.actcom.net.il] has joined #ubuntu === swarm [~swarm@host39-44.pool8249.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [06:58] desrt, ahhh ok np..yeah not breezy here..not even ubuntu atm due to crashes I was having with gnome-panel and never finding resolution....really annoying...BUT I will reinstall soon as this darn DVD finishes downloading LOL [06:59] how was gnome-panel crashing? [06:59] well [06:59] example >> [06:59] gnome 2.10 is bugy [06:59] :( [06:59] was playing with evolution...it fried... [06:59] brought down the desktop and gnome-panel === mpq [~mpq@c-24-22-133-235.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:00] I was able to continue typing in xchat though so keyboard was functioning LOL [07:00] Using an hp zv6029 I have installed breezy and after install just after login system hangs or even just before login if trying to switch to terminal. Video card is ATI RADEON XPRESS 200M IGP. [07:00] ctrl-altbackspace was borked as it tried to restart and nadda...it hung on somethign about cupsd I think... [07:00] s/zv6029/zv6069 [07:00] WhiteRabbit, im beginning tothink gnome in general is buggy [07:01] neighborlee: i know someone who fixed erratic gnome behaviour by reconfiguring the xorg package === NemesisBLK [~Menes@24-205-166-140.wc-eres.charterpipeline.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === ahuman01 [~ahuman01@141.152.253.158] has joined #ubuntu [07:01] WhiteRabbit, or at least certain components shrug..sorry mean to be more exact but its a bit frustrating when it happens in more than one distro [07:01] neighborlee; do you get crashes or what? [07:01] WhiteRabbit, for instance..I had once tried novel desktop which uses gnome 2.6 heh..crashed within first 5 minutes ( gnome-panel that is)..so shrug I dont know whats going on.. === bigjb [~bigjb@dd2503c3aaf8b917.session.tor] has joined #ubuntu [07:01] neighborlee, yes its not just on ubuntu its gnome 2.10 in general === zongzi is now known as zongzi|otz === cyberix [~cyberix@hki2-6-3-fb.hoasnet.inet.fi] has left #ubuntu [] === xxtreme [~xxtreme@216.189.182.148] has joined #ubuntu [07:02] gnome 2.8 was somewhat stable [07:02] does anyone know what is up with gnomes stability ? [07:02] are they understaffed with coders ? [07:02] ... [07:03] staffed? === djp [~david@dynamic-62-56-41-38.park-s46b.dslaccess.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [07:03] yes [07:03] lol [07:03] haha [07:03] they aint got staff === kermit_ [~kermit@80.100.248.17] has joined #ubuntu [07:03] neighborlee, deadrat has the most coders on it go figure [07:03] open source !!!! [07:03] sorry. [07:03] 2.10 works nice [07:03] besides a few quirks i have found gnome to be stable. [07:03] GLXGears reports 1200 fps and shows gears moving really slowlly. GLXGears is driving me a little crazy. [07:03] actually i heard there were problems with 2.8 [07:03] is there anybody here who knows what packages need to be installed in ubuntu to run xmame? [07:03] neighborlee, most of the gnome crew devs gnome on OSX go figure as it doesn't show eh! [07:03] IIIEars; they're moving faster than you can see [07:04] IIIEars; it's like when a car is driving and sometimes the wheels look like they're going backwards [07:04] anyone know why cups may not be printing postscript? it prints raw, but not PS files? AND it prints PS files fine on localhost, but not from other computers on the network??? any ideas? === TFP [Patrick@dsl-084-056-158-077.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:04] WhiteRabbit: where did you hear that? [07:04] maybe except screensavers are slow. [07:04] IIIEars; glxgears is no measure of performance :P [07:04] subterrific, from the devs of fedora [07:04] WhiteRabbit: that isn't true at all [07:04] subterrific, & from the devs at redhat [07:04] WhiteRabbit; huh? [07:05] WhiteRabbit: majority of the gnome devs are at Novell and Redhat, they do not use OS X [07:05] WhiteRabbit; most gnome developers use gnome as their primary desktop and development workstations [07:05] how can i disable a user without loosing his password for a while ? [07:05] subterrific, well smatter me this n thats but prove it wrong.. [07:05] sobersabre; vipw [07:05] when im trying to play a mp3 file, i get this error: "There were no decoders found to handle the stream in file "", you might need to install the corresponding plugins. where do i find these plugins?? [07:05] sobersabre; go down to the user and put a * before the $ [07:05] so it will look like username:*$1$sdfjwlkejwlekjr [07:05] desrt, prove it wrong or keep smattering [07:06] WhiteRabbit; actually... you're the one that made the statement, so i sort of expect *you* to be able to back it up. [07:06] ubotu: tell iceonnet about restricted [07:06] desrt, hmmm WTF?!?! there's no such thing in passwd file. [07:06] does passwd -l lose the original password? [07:06] desrt, I asked you to back it up first since you want to disprove me [07:06] do you mean shadow ? === _Church_of_Foamy [~shane@24-177-160-171.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [07:06] sobersabre; ya. try /etc/shadow... i forgot that vipw on linux sucks :) [07:06] desrt, most times people who want to disprove something are the ones who put up of stfu most times === desrt stares in disbelief [07:07] desrt, are you the enlightened by SunOS 1.0 ? === sobersabre stares at desrt ... [07:07] IIIEars nice one [07:07] <_Church_of_Foamy> anyone here use a d-link di604 router? [07:07] IIIEars, it is NIS... === bigjb-work [~james@27e266abbc2059f0.session.tor] has joined #ubuntu [07:08] _Church_of_Foamy: no [07:08] <_Church_of_Foamy> damn :( [07:08] _Church_of_Foamy: because it is cheap [07:08] this place is crazy [07:08] <_Church_of_Foamy> yea i know lol [07:08] DLINK is really nasty kit i stopped using it over a year ago now [07:09] <_Church_of_Foamy> what about belkin? === lpb-Anonymous [~anonymous@p54B6F04C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu === qpid [~dfgdfgdfg@a81-14-179-192.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu [07:09] _Church_of_Foamy: I can find better one in trashcan [07:09] Also real nasty [07:09] netgear is good stuff in the same price range === seby [~seby@p54A25B83.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:09] <_Church_of_Foamy> what would you recommend becuase it's giving me trouble with linux [07:09] di604=crap === Ravarin [~jwellman@64.233.178.4] has joined #ubuntu [07:09] and realtek seems good network cards [07:09] signius: no === bskahan [~bskahan@pool-70-18-205-112.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:10] signius: all is cheap === lpb-Anonymous [~anonymous@p54B6F04C.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu ["Verlassend"] [07:10] I havnt had any problems with netgear kit [07:10] any xmame users here? [07:10] <_Church_of_Foamy> than what wouyld ya reccomend i use? [07:10] and i like buffalo wireless kit in the cheap price range also [07:10] what's that? [07:10] though i tend to use linksys for most of my wireless stuff === darkling [~hugo@81-5-136-19.dsl.eclipse.net.uk] has joined #ubuntu [07:11] <_Church_of_Foamy> what should i do mke a linuxbox router? [07:11] i use draytek routers mostly [07:11] <_Church_of_Foamy> if it can be done === yoda [~yoda@ANantes-152-1-28-116.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu [07:11] _Church_of_Foamy, monowall would be nice [07:11] lalalala [07:11] The new Belkin Pre-N is a great little router [07:11] linksys(expensive,poor interface...and so on) [07:11] <_Church_of_Foamy> zong what do you use [07:11] dlink lol [07:11] m0nowall is a fantastic firewall product and has some unique features that make it stand out also === afonit [~afonit@199.72.169.10] has joined #ubuntu [07:12] I like Hotbrick over linksys & dlink [07:12] linksys isn't bad (WRT54G, WRT54GS) if you put a new firmware like sveasoft or hyperwrt on it. [07:12] Asus AP ( bad bad) === xxtreme [~xxtreme@216.189.182.148] has joined #ubuntu === Vjaz [peksi@195.156.245.118] has joined #ubuntu [07:13] WhiteRabbit: http://primates.ximian.com/~aaron/doing/evo-osx.html === Trixsey [~trixsey@c-219072d5.012-2011-73746f31.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu [07:13] Anyone know if there's a Gnome applet for Sunbird? [07:13] the captive portal stuff with m0n0wall is good and also its traffic shaping features [07:13] http://www.hotbrick.nl/demo/home.htm [07:13] GPL violations [07:13] Or Sunbird support for the default clock applet? [07:13] Anyone using DC++ here? If so, which client is the best for Linux/Ubuntu (In your opinion)? [07:13] there is a core GNOME developer talking about how hard it is to get GNOME on OS X working === lalo_ [~lalo@243.Red-217-126-27.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:14] how to install xmms, i type "./configure" and i get "configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH" [07:14] subterrific, wtf is this for [07:14] iceonnet: use apt-get === ows [~666@bl5-49-139.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu [07:14] WhiteRabbit: and he says evolution doesn't even run on OS X [07:14] Vjaz, I haven't heard of one, as it is so new [07:14] iceonnet: sudo apt-get install xmms [07:14] i use a d-link ADSL modem, which works perfectly and has given me no trouble at all, however I am aware that if i want to ever use it with a router I could be f**ked! [07:14] goldfish, ok thx =) [07:14] bye all [07:14] WhiteRabbit: proof that "most" GNOME developers don't use OS X [07:14] subterrific, I never said evolution was dev'ed on osx I said gnome [07:14] can someone clear up why ubuntu is so used now? [07:14] is it based on debian? [07:14] Which is newest [07:14] subterrific, thats not no proof its some odd ball page [07:14] iceonnet: you dont need to install from source on ubuntu :) [07:14] oh nvm [07:14] iceonnet: really better off using aptitude there in place of apt-get [07:15] subterrific: sure, some people like to see if they can port some of their favourite gnome apps to run on osx. [07:15] thats talking about evolution rofl [07:15] Anyone using DC++ here? If so, which client is the best for Linux/Ubuntu (In your opinion)? === wawan [~tio@202.149.64.14] has joined #ubuntu [07:15] justin: yeah, good point, sorry, i shud have suggested that. [07:15] WhiteRabbit: odd ball page? do you have any clue what ximian is? [07:15] subterrific, keep searching scooter [07:15] ows: it's based on debain unstable [07:15] subterrific, ya novell bought them [07:15] *debian [07:15] anyone know why cups may not be printing postscript? it prints raw, but not PS files? AND it prints PS files fine on localhost, but not from other computers on the network??? any ideas? === pak_ogah [~ws002@202.95.133.142] has joined #ubuntu [07:15] subterrific, netcraft gnome.org it goes to redhat in nc [07:16] people who work on gnome in redhat are poart of the red hat desktop team..it's illogical that they would use OSX as their primary desktop at work. [07:16] iceonnet: in general, no need to download programs of websites. you can use synaptic or apt-get to install programs. [07:16] subterrific, the main devs of gnome are redhat not ximian === XhyldazhK [~ubuntu@dsl-200-67-173-174.prod-empresarial.com.mx] has joined #ubuntu === gianni [~gianni@213-140-22-71.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:16] *off websites === sri can't say what they do at home [07:16] hey, my kernel refuses to boot === allu [~allu@a81-197-201-194.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu [07:16] after an update [07:16] WhiteRabbit: yeah, ximian and redhat employ the main developers [07:16] can anyone help me please? === rob_afk is now known as robertj [07:16] subterrific, redhat more so than the little ximian [07:16] <_Church_of_Foamy> i don't need a firewall i need a router [07:16] goldfish: what's the difference between ubuntu and debian and gentoo? [07:17] Hi how i can install java enviroment to ubuntu [07:17] ows on gentoo you compile everything [07:17] hiiiiiiiiiiiii [07:17] <_Church_of_Foamy> for multiple computers to use a network [07:17] subterrific, only thing ximian had of intrest was evolution [07:17] <_Church_of_Foamy> but to put 1 computer in the dmz and have it work === mxpxpod [~BryanForb@mxpxpod.user] has joined #ubuntu [07:17] ows: no difference [07:17] ows: well, hmmm, im not one to answer that really, gentoo is completely different. [07:17] what kind of features does it have that gentoo and debian don't have [07:17] ows: no distros in my mind [07:17] VFS: Cannot open root device "hda5" or unknown-block(0,0) <-- I've googled for that but nothing seems useful [07:17] WhiteRabbit: wrong [07:17] osw: ubuntu is built on a debian core.. the interest for ubuntu is larger (duno why, prolly since its updated more frequently?) [07:17] allu: http://serios.net/content/debian/java/with-java-package.php [07:17] subterrific, well prove it [07:17] ows: it's easier to install than gentoo for one. === prolli_ [~olli@dsl-082-082-143-232.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:18] well so it's like debian [07:18] ok [07:18] took me 10 hours to install gentoo [07:18] improving my question [07:18] subterrific, stop being a smattering zealot & show me something of intrest [07:18] in ubuntu who have more frequent and recent releases [07:18] ows: it is, yes. [07:18] what's the difference between debian and ubuntu [07:18] goldfish: GRP? [07:18] having a debian core, thats the advantage [07:18] can ayone help me? [07:18] anyone? [07:18] allu: try ubuntuguide.org [07:18] zongzi|otz: grp? [07:18] goldfish: GRP CD? [07:18] ows, ubuntu is like.. debian further developed... I think one could say so [07:18] subterrific, if all your wanting to do is argue a lost cause for nothing dont waste both mine & your time. [07:18] zongzi|otz: please expand :) [07:18] WhiteRabbit: ximian was started by miguel de icaza, who started gnome === lalo__ [~lalo@243.Red-217-126-27.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:18] and further developed by other people === lalo__ [~lalo@243.Red-217-126-27.pooles.rima-tde.net] has left #ubuntu ["Abandonando"] [07:19] Than those who made debian [07:19] Trixsey: larger interest in ubuntu than debian? [07:19] and why that? [07:19] Trixsey: I dont know but I could bet my head on that debian has more users =) [07:19] subterrific, ya & linus made linux now novell makes it as does slackware debian etc [07:19] ubuntu is more easy to install too [07:19] but less optimised for the systeme, for the same reason === wawan [~tio@202.149.64.14] has joined #ubuntu [07:19] subterrific, whats the point of you wanting to argue give something of intrest not common knowledge [07:19] zongzi|otz: what's grp stand for? :) === maxo [~max@82.109.76.226] has joined #ubuntu [07:19] thenuke, the ubuntu users are increasing while the debian users arent :p [07:20] how come fonts in ubuntu don't use anti-aliasing? some of them look terrible? [07:20] subterrific, http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http://gnome.org main servers are located at redhat now not ximian [07:20] I hope ubuntu that could be a tarball. [07:20] maxo, my mom looks terrible too... and you dont see me complaining [07:20] goldfish: www.gentoo.org [07:20] subterrific, times change fast in nix land as it has for a many of years [07:20] WhiteRabbit: so that proves that most gnome devs run redhat? === herpules [~paul@cpe-65-185-140-201.indy.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [07:20] still to improve my question: who should use ubuntu instead of debain? what kind of features does it have that debian don't have? easier installation [07:21] I have a valid initrd, I have a mountable partition === roque [~roque@200-112-129-189.bbt.net.ar] has joined #ubuntu [07:21] ows, more update packages mostly [07:21] subterrific, proves redhat is more active in the dev than ximian atm [07:21] I just updated my kernel via the update applet === nobile [~nuni@65.165.85.43] has joined #ubuntu [07:21] ows: Ubuntu is more suitable for Desktops than Debian [07:21] ows: just fun ;) [07:21] Trixsey: I don't understand what that has to do with the price of fish? [07:21] ows, the newer packages are built on a more stable base [07:21] subterrific, until I see novell on that netblock wtfever k [07:21] and I haven't been able to boot since that [07:21] But if You want a completely tailored linux, you go with Debian. [07:21] maxo, :( === omni_lonnie [~lonnie@leepcH-150.sub-h.lee.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:21] WhiteRabbit: no, it proves that redhat provides hosting. nothing more [07:21] ows: ubuntu is more user friendly [07:21] ows: a great first time distro [07:21] Trixsey: it might be so but that does not prove your point :D === ross [~ross@c-24-99-75-74.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:22] subterrific, Uh hu sure sure k [07:22] ok [07:22] tkx ubuntu folks for your explanation ;) [07:22] Debian is great too, though. But you need some skill to set it up. :) [07:22] indeed === thechitowncubs [~thechitow@c-67-175-52-127.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:22] WhiteRabbit: what exactly is your point [07:22] subterrific, its hopeless give it up or show me something of intrest not some bloggers page [07:22] ows: have you asked #debian? :-) [07:22] thenuke, I just feel comfortable knowing that the OS I'm using is increasing its user count === jeukku [~jeukku@passiivinen.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:22] reka: not really why? [07:22] zongzi|otz: I did a stage 1 install. [07:22] reka, are you going to throw him to the wolves? [07:22] reka: lol [07:22] so? [07:22] WhiteRabbit: i can't find anything about a single GNOME dev using OS X, so prove it to me [07:22] I'd feel worried if it was otherwise [07:23] ows: they will eat you alive if you ask in there :) [07:23] goldfish: everybody did [07:23] Burgundavia: well ... then he'll go for ubuntu for sure won't he? :-) [07:23] reka, that is mean === despe [~pate@a84-231-144-221.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu [07:23] goldfish: with a speed gcc option [07:23] Burgundavia: oh come now. [07:23] subterrific, show me were there not [07:23] heeeeeeelp [07:23] subterrific, all you do is talk talk talk show me proof [07:23] goldfish: didn't do that, so I'm alive :) [07:23] every linux user should be at least flamed onced in #debian. [07:23] ows: hehe === ompaul [~ompaul@213-202-187-146.bas504.dsl.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:23] reka: i've not been flamed yet. [07:24] reka: Shall i go in and ask them how do i install ubuntu? :) [07:24] thanks that worked [07:24] WhiteRabbit: troll [07:24] goldfish: hehe. they'll probably just invoke dpkg [07:24] justin, were? [07:24] which is what they did to me. [07:25] justin, subterrific come on over to #fedora [07:25] I'll prove it children of the smatter === lalo_ [~lalo@243.Red-217-126-27.pooles.rima-tde.net] has left #ubuntu ["Abandonando"] [07:25] my ubuntu refuses to boot, it's not that the kernel doesn't know the root partition filesystem (is ext3) i have the correct initrd in menu.lst of grub, i really reaaly am clueless, I've googled the problem === bijikucing [~aaa@202.47.65.137] has joined #ubuntu === fonsken [~fonsken@d54C32D13.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu === despe [~pate@a84-231-144-221.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has left #ubuntu [] === ben0ne [~ben0ne@200217109043.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu === jeukku [~jeukku@passiivinen.net] has left #ubuntu [] [07:26] XhyldazhK: boot the cd in rescue mode and reinstall the old kernel? [07:26] ablehhhhhhhhhhh [07:26] justin: that won't erase my package database? [07:26] thats what I thought [07:26] he should be able to boot from the old kernel. iirc lilo or grub should let him choose kerneles. [07:26] zongzi|otz: ok, sorry, still havent found grp .. [07:27] XhyldazhK: why would reinstalling the kernel erase your package database? [07:27] ... === MaartenFabre [~maarten@kotnet-150.kulnet.kuleuven.be] has joined #ubuntu [07:27] justin: I will try that, thanks [07:28] Does anyone here use cedega? [07:28] zongzi|otz: nevermind :) [07:28] imaek: I did. === gianni [~gianni@213-140-22-71.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:28] lo [07:28] hello [07:29] goldfish: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/release/2004.3/x86-release-notes.xml === _kevin [~Kevin@CPE0006255ab096-CM400049887786.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [07:29] goldfish: ^-^ [07:29] goldfish: do you know where it stores the virtual C drive? [07:29] imaek: /home/name/Transgaming something or other [07:29] <_kevin> I'm getting a new USB harddrive, will USB hardrives work with linux? [07:29] WhiteRabbit: i'm in #fedora waiting [07:29] _kevin: yeah [07:30] Thanks goldfish . [07:30] m$ virtual C? [07:30] <_kevin> goldfish it will detect and install drivers automatically? [07:30] _kevin: mine was plug and play [07:30] hmmm. i'm banned from #fedora and i've never been there. :-) [07:30] <_kevin> the one I'm buy is a USB one [07:30] <_kevin> are you in Canada? [07:30] reka: me too [07:30] _kevin: im in Ireland :) [07:30] <_kevin> ohh [07:30] zongzi|otz: know why? [07:30] subterrific, ok lets do it [07:30] _kevin: its a usb one [07:31] <_kevin> yes [07:31] my one is [07:31] and it detected fine [07:31] because....hehe.... redhat [07:31] <_kevin> ok thanks [07:31] $$$ [07:31] <_kevin> and the Icon comes on the desktop right? [07:31] subterrific, happy now? [07:31] source=$ book=$ service=$ === Djrom [~djrom@dau94-4-82-229-166-160.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:31] nothing free [07:31] zongzi|otz: dont think i used gpr cd :) === drexen [~drexen@220-245-221-63-act-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [07:32] hey all [07:32] GRP @@ [07:32] :) [07:32] grp i mean :) [07:32] !@#$%$^ gp03d [07:32] parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, zongzi|otz === putut [~pendopo@222.124.72.181] has joined #ubuntu === spiral [~spiral@lafilaire-4-82-224-249-43.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:32] hehe [07:32] i have a problem installing ubuntu... it all runs fine until i get to 'partition manager' screen and it freezes at 41%, anyone help? [07:32] haha === mpq [~mpq@c-24-22-133-235.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === maddler [~maddler@62-101-126-230.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:33] drexen: how long have you left it? [07:33] about 20 minutes === putut [~pendopo@222.124.72.181] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === idaho45 [~john@201.243.31.212] has joined #ubuntu === SithToast [~SithToast@cable5-113.murray-ky.net] has joined #ubuntu === zongzi|otz cuts goldfish off [07:33] nooooo [07:34] subterrific, see there I told you [07:34] subterrific, gnome devs use osx & it holds true [07:34] ubuntu no mooooooooooore [07:34] hmm, i've seen two cases where it freezes at some point in the installation process and then starts up again ~15- 17mins. [07:34] 20 mins however ... [07:34] ...back good and old slack [07:34] ben0ne: ??? === jmullman [~mitchell@adsl-221-226-157.ilm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu === ikypakis [t19@195.245.229.17] has joined #ubuntu [07:34] my wheelmouse stopped working all of a sudden, and so did alsa [07:34] :s [07:34] zongzi|otz too user lvl [07:34] the mouse works, but the scrollwheel stopped === neighborlee [~neighborl@DSL-138-165-rb2.gh.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu === ggeller [~ggeller@69.17.112.98] has joined #ubuntu [07:35] well during the detecting hardware to find cdrom drives it froze for about 15 minutes but was fine after that [07:35] and it used to work under ubuntu [07:35] WhiteRabbit: you said most of them use it to develop gnome, that isn't what mether said. he said some use it some of the time. [07:35] lost control of what libs I have [07:35] WhiteRabbit: thus disproving what you said [07:35] zongzi|otz: his back is in good condition and he's wearing old slacks? [07:35] subterrific, na he just said they do [07:35] reka: it's a laptop, does that make a difference? [07:35] WhiteRabbit: sure they use it, but not most of them, and not to develop gnome === naderman [~naderman@p508B2F62.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === gianni [~gianni@213-140-22-71.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:35] so anyway..so most here are having trouble with gnome 2.10 huh...if so has anyone heard if a fix is coming or if steps can be taken to avoid problems temporarily ? [07:35] subterrific: they use it because of the usability testing apple does on OSX [07:36] WhiteRabbit: some gnome devs use solaris. doesn't mean "most use it to develop gnome" === skylar1 [~skylar1@196.32.51.10] has joined #ubuntu [07:36] subterrific: after all GNOME's HIG is based on apple's. [07:36] heh apple is going to use intel in the future...interesting [07:36] <_kevin> this si the usb drive I'm planning on buying http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0665000FS10053850&catid=10484&logon=&langid=EN [07:36] drexen: well, one was on a laptop. i didn't ask the other guy. i'd give it another 5 minutes and then restart and try again. [07:36] <_kevin> hope it works === Sleipner [~bamfsemai@62.119.205.42] has joined #ubuntu [07:36] !repositories [07:36] repositories is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto [07:36] iceonnet: That link ^^ [07:36] ok i'll give it a go and come back ... i'll give it a good hour this time [07:36] subterrific, never locked it down as to thats all they use to dev [07:36] goldfish, ok =D [07:37] thnx seeyas... [07:37] subterrific, I said gnome devs use osx read back in the log ;)~ [07:37] bye drexen [07:37] 10:03 < WhiteRabbit> neighborlee, most of the gnome crew devs gnome on OSX go [07:37] figure as it doesn't show eh! === drexen follows WhiteRabbit === zongzi|otz Watch your 6 [07:37] subterrific, most of is not all of [07:37] sorry my isp has been VERy flakey today [07:37] most could be some if not all [07:38] Take the blue pill you stay in wonderland... [07:38] most is a very funny word to show the amount of anything as a whole [07:38] its a majority [07:38] goldfish, is that near the 1831 club? [07:38] ompaul: I have no idea. [07:38] subterrific, here allow me to show you most === androxxl [~andro@BSN-77-248-167.dsl.siol.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:38] subterrific, Most of the US voted to put bush in the first & 2nd times [07:38] WhiteRabbit, oh good grief you gotta be kidding...man if that is true i'm so not impressed [07:38] goldfish, the little cafe called the dcu canteen :) [07:38] subterrific, see how funny the word most can be made! === lin [~lin@82-71-9-233.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [07:39] it just means a majority, which is what makes your statement false [07:39] neighborlee, well Im not here for peer support really just to truth [07:39] WhiteRabbit, yeah its so not obvious LOL === zongzi|otz [~w00t@61-216-109-94.dynamic.hinet.net] has left #ubuntu ["out] [07:39] ompaul: omg the dcu canteen? [07:39] ompaul: my university is called dcu :) [07:39] WhiteRabbit, yeah I know not to worry I believe you.just shocked me is all [07:39] goldfish, near wonderland :) [07:39] WhiteRabbit: your example isn't even true [07:39] ompaul: nope :) [07:40] In Ireland. [07:40] subterrific, once again prove me wrong says me [07:40] most of the US didn't vote or voted for someone other than bush [07:40] ack no talk of that moron bush... [07:40] subterrific, prove it? [07:40] warning! politic-talk [07:40] voter turn out is less than 50% [07:40] take it to #politics === reka agrees with goldfish === Howitzer [~adrian@132-206.240.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu [07:40] <_kevin> i have an NFTS parition, i want to format it and make it into a partition both windows and linux can read and write to [07:40] subterrific, you just showed us all you want to do is argue [07:40] wow, you're the king of ignorance [07:40] take bush to #satans-minions === jmullman votes for goldfish [07:41] _kevin: fat32 [07:41] <_kevin> other then FAT [07:41] thank you plz come again === jmullman ducks [07:41] _kevin: is what you want [07:41] subterrific, WhiteRabbit political discussion is for #flame-war, not #ubuntu [07:41] jmullman: :) === allu [~allu@a81-197-201-194.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu [07:41] _kevin: emmm [07:41] Burgundavia, Im talking about gnome not politics === disasm_ [disirc@69-162-7-12.stcgpa.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:41] <_kevin> can windows read and right to EXT? [07:41] How do i add codecs for Totem?(or please give me another mediaplayer with the codecs already included) [07:41] Burgundavia, I just was showing him the true meaning of Most [07:41] _kevin: well, you want to duak boot? [07:41] *dual [07:42] howitzer: look into mplayer [07:42] <_kevin> nope === Ooze [foobar@pcp03455377pcs.csouth01.va.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:42] WhiteRabbit: yes, like "Most people in here realize that you are a dumb troll" [07:42] WhiteRabbit, in either case, neither discussion really belongs on #ubuntu [07:42] Burgundavia, until he started to lecture us on the voting of diebold & etc [07:42] _kevin: hmmm, ok [07:42] how do you mean 'look into' jmullman ? :/ [07:42] Howitzer, you need to look at your repositries [07:42] <_kevin> just incase i ever switch to windows I want to remove linux and install windows and be able to access the parition from windows [07:42] justin, Yes Im so looking to build a rep in the elite ubuntu crowd of hackers.. [07:42] i did [07:42] _kevin: why dont you choose fat32? [07:42] _kevin: well, ok i see. === Xero84 [~Xero84@cpe-65-24-30-40.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [07:43] <_kevin> fat32 is slow and too much space it uses for the tables [07:43] WhiteRabbit: it's "apu". [07:43] <_kevin> it's just 130 gig parition and i'm just goign to be storing music on it [07:43] Howitzer, start syanptic and add all the other ones :) [07:44] reka, Flaming Spelling wars! === sijp-doing-exe3 is now known as sijp-to-lazy [07:44] Simpsons 101 hehe [07:44] Howitzer, after that search for w32 install and enjoy it [07:44] _kevin: windows is not going to give you much choice [07:44] ehh [07:44] rent an o/s [07:44] lol [07:44] i downloaded the w32 codecs [07:44] _kevin: you'll have to go with a fat fs if you want windows to work with it alongside linux [07:44] <_kevin> humm [07:45] Howitzer, well it worked for me have you reastarted gnome since? [07:45] but i have no clue on how to implement it into Totem [07:45] ehh === zetori [~zetori@a81-197-80-47.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu [07:45] i did ctrl-alt-backspace if that's what you mean :/ [07:45] lol [07:45] Howitzer, well no, but it has the same effect === theD3viL [~geek@BSN-77-90-27.dsl.siol.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:45] Howitzer: i thought you didn't have sound. [07:45] How to set up Shockwave Flash Media in konqueror?? === RaD|Tz [~DragonFly@201.132.110.45] has joined #ubuntu === rgould [~rgould@mail.refractions.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:46] <_kevin> ok on linux how do i partition a ntfs drive and set it to a format that'll work with linux and is fast and goof ro storing mp3s and doesn't use alot of space for tables [07:46] I've installed ubuntu, but, have no root password [07:46] <_kevin> root password is the one you set when you install linux [07:46] <_kevin> for the first tome [07:46] I have tried many distros to got java installed no one worked [07:46] <_kevin> time* [07:46] RaD|Tz: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo [07:46] RaD|Tz: http://www.google.com/search?q=root+password+site%3Aubuntu.com [07:46] RaD|Tz: ubuntu doesn't use root, in the same manner as OS X [07:47] RaD|Tz, as does everyone else that installs ubuntu, when you want to do is use sudo for admin tasks [07:47] _kevin, it didn't ask for one [07:47] <_kevin> it asks for a user name and password [07:47] <_kevin> when you first install linux [07:47] <_kevin> in the blue screen [07:47] yes for a normal user [07:47] <_kevin> yes [07:47] <_kevin> the password also works for root === Vjaz [peksi@195.156.245.118] has left #ubuntu [] [07:47] theD3viL: I think you can try adding firefox/mozilla plugin dirs to your konqueror plugin and search for it [07:48] yah === flashsider [~flashside@192.108.250.62] has joined #ubuntu [07:48] _kevin: you'll notice the prompts actually ask for "your" password, not root's. [07:48] ok sudo passwd root [07:48] i find it [07:48] i3dmaster: you think it will works ? === WhiteRabbit is glad he didn't start saying Linus devs the linux kernel on a mac === nobile [~nuni@65.165.85.42] has joined #ubuntu [07:48] now, it doesn't recognize my sis 900 ethernet card [07:48] I don't have KDE available right now, but as I remember... you go into options->web->plugins and specify the directory where the plugin so is [07:48] <_kevin> reka_ yes but when i use sudo i type in my normal pass and it's the same for root [07:49] theD3viL: I believe so, you don't really need to install any plugins for konqueror, it can use the other browsers as long as they have the plugins [07:49] reka, i gave up on the sound for now [07:49] sound is for in 2 weeks when my exams are done === cmihai [~mihaic2@cmihai.user] has joined #ubuntu === hpnadig [~hpn@59.92.139.254] has joined #ubuntu [07:50] how do i enable hotplug at bootup? [07:50] i3dmaster: oh.. i will try.... =/ [07:50] or is that a bad idea? [07:50] Howitzer: so porn without sound for now then? :-P [07:50] MaartenFabre: isn't it automatically enabled? [07:50] i dunno [07:50] Hello. I was wondering, while installing Ubuntu with no internet connection, yet you configured the net, and it starts to look for mirrors, is there any way to stop it after that ? I've waited some 10 minutes and nothing. === emanuelez [~emanuelez@adsl-100-75.38-151.net24.it] has joined #ubuntu [07:51] hello [07:51] i think it is.... [07:51] theD3viL: ya, give a try. konqueror should search the pathes that you provided [07:51] for some reason it isn't in my list of programs [07:51] and recently my sound and scroll wheel stopped worjking [07:51] reka how did you knew if was for porn OO [07:51] while they worked flawlessly before [07:51] i used pppoeconf to setup my adsl connection... how do i make it start on boot now? [07:51] so i guess that has someth to do with HW-recognision === gazoo [~norely@d209-89-81-142.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu === mpq [~mpq@c-24-22-133-235.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === gazoo [~norely@d209-89-81-142.abhsia.telus.net] has left #ubuntu [] [07:51] cmihai: i've seen two cases where it freezes at some point in the installation process and then starts up again ~15- 17mins. i'd give it some more time. === gazoo [~norely@d209-89-81-142.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu === T5 [~Jan@dsl-084-059-048-060.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:52] heh .... 10 minutes was more then enough for me. === napsy [~asd@BSN-77-126-125.dsl.siol.net] has joined #ubuntu === prolli__ [~olli@dsl-084-059-162-194.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:52] Neeh, I was just thinking ..bad installer design :( [07:52] cmihai, that is a known bug without a good solution currently [07:52] Oh, all righty then. [07:52] Howitzer: lucky guess. couldn't think of anything else you would watch w/o sound? [07:53] lol [07:53] If it's known, no reason to complain about it :) [07:53] silent movies? [07:53] Burgundavia: so i'm right in telling him to wait? === XhyldazhK [~ubuntu@dsl-200-67-173-174.prod-empresarial.com.mx] has joined #ubuntu [07:53] :( I wa sunable to reinstall from rescue cd [07:53] *was unable [07:53] jmullman: hehe. true. [07:53] how do I reinstall the kernel from the install cd of hoarY? === marek [~marek@host-n1-70-95.telpol.net.pl] has joined #ubuntu [07:53] reka, to wait on what? [07:54] i used pppoeconf to setup my adsl connection... how do i make it start on boot now? [07:54] my system refuses to boot === MiKaRaStA [~mikarasta@219.95.216.60] has joined #ubuntu [07:54] for it to start progressing again. [07:54] VFS: Cannot open root device "hda5" or unknown-block(0,0) === reka didn't realise the bug was *that* widespread [07:54] is not the initrd on menu,lst i simply upgraded kernel via the upgrade applet === prolli__ [~olli@dsl-084-059-147-045.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:54] XhyldazhK, did you custom compile a kernel? === RemoteViewer [~555@stan.physik.fu-berlin.de] has joined #ubuntu [07:55] kudzubane, nope, I only installed one from the upgrade applet [07:55] an official one [07:55] kudzubane: can you help me? [07:55] XhyldazhK, one of the top reasons for that error is the lack of support in kernel for the root fs [07:56] jmullman: but the chances of him being a chaplin fan are pretty slim, you'd admit. [07:56] my root fs is standard ext3 === yourghetek [~user@c-67-174-254-167.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === neoplasticity [neoplastic@pc237h30-021.med.unc.edu] has joined #ubuntu [07:56] reka: quite true, that [07:56] kudzubane, in fdisk appears as 83 - Linux === _Church_of_Foamy [~shane@24-177-160-171.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [07:56] anyone know if you can run a remote X windows app from behind a home router? [07:56] I tried to install a few times, eventually I did a server install then 'apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' server is triggered from the initial screen it may or may not help [07:56] how do i see my ip address in console? [07:56] <_Church_of_Foamy> how to install a tar.gz file? [07:56] yourghetek: ifconfig [07:56] which is the command for the text only setup configuration tool? [07:57] yourghetek, ifconfig without parameters === JasonF [~jay@jasonf.no-sources] has joined #ubuntu [07:57] _Church_of_Foamy: you don't. it's an archive file [07:57] can anyone help me? [07:57] XhyldazhK, linux is simply a partition type, not the fs [07:57] yourghetek, sudo ifconfig === JasonF [~jay@jasonf.no-sources] has left #ubuntu [] [07:57] _Church_of_Foamy: what are you trying to do? [07:57] thanks [07:57] so how can i start hotplug at boot again? === tritium_ [~tritium@ee213-dhcp-3.ecn.purdue.edu] has joined #ubuntu [07:57] neoplastisicy: short answer... yes shorter answer... I don't recall just how [07:57] chmod +x doesn't work [07:57] kudzubane, the type is the default of hoary, I think its ext3, but its fully backwards compatible with ext2 [07:57] <_Church_of_Foamy> install Wine-20050419.tar.gz [07:57] Hi. Why do I have to reinstall hal packages so gnome doesnt's appear the HAL init failure. When I reinstall them and restart the session, all is OK. Is there a way to fix this? [07:57] emmmmm [07:58] _Church_of_Foamy: use the repos!!! [07:58] _Church_of_Foamy: why are u installing wine from source? === arsch [~arsch@p54B84D52.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:58] sudo apt-get install wine === rhizo [~woo@max4-61.dialup.farlep.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:58] <_Church_of_Foamy> because i want the dx9 wine [07:58] _Church_of_Foamy: pm [07:58] kudzubane, positively is ext3, i can mount it as ext3 [07:58] XhyldazhK, did you happen to keep around a bootable kernel? === jpfarias [~jpfarias@proxy.gerencia.ufrn.br] has joined #ubuntu [07:59] kudzubane, only the one from this live cd [07:59] goldfish: please share :-) [07:59] hey! [07:59] is the native version of eclipse already on ubuntu? [07:59] jpfarias, nope, sorry [07:59] kudzubane, i managed to chroot to my old disk and install a new kernel using aptitude, but the new one fails in the same way [07:59] reka: Yes? :) [07:59] Anybody here know anything about hardware? [08:00] OT: if I divide 210 (minutes) / 56 (miles) and get 3.75 is that 3.75 mins per mile? [08:00] goldfish: dx9 wine ... i'd like to know JIC [08:00] imaek: ask your question im sure someone will answer you... [08:00] Not hardware troubleshooting, but buying hardware. [08:00] Okay. [08:00] Well I am building a computer [08:00] XhyldazhK, interesting === sijp-to-lazy is now known as sijp-too-lazy [08:00] and I forgot to get a hard drive [08:01] kudzubane, both kernels 2.4.10 and 2.4.11 are failing in the same way [08:01] and now I need to know what specifies the interface? [08:01] occy: i'd say so. [08:01] reka, heh, I'm a product of public schools you know... [08:01] :) [08:01] XhyldazhK, wish i can help you more, but i have not yet installed ubuntu here so i can't verify stuff i tell people [08:01] imaek, that depends on your motherboard, if you have sata or ide on the board [08:01] XhyldazhK, 2.4.10? very old kernel [08:01] errr 2.6 === rhizo [~woo@max4-61.dialup.farlep.net] has left #ubuntu [] === sublime_ [~sublime@201.254.159.30] has joined #ubuntu [08:01] XhyldazhK, ok [08:01] 2.6.10 and 2.6.11 [08:02] XhyldazhK, were you ever able to boot with any kernel? [08:02] who can please help me? [08:02] kudzubane, yes, perfectly until the update [08:02] with X, sound, network, and all [08:02] XhyldazhK, did you check the bootloader [08:02] how do I connect to ubuntu using irssi? [08:03] XhyldazhK, are all the bootloader references still valid? [08:03] kudzubane, i played with the bootloader too [08:03] kudzubane, lets check [08:03] ompaul: apparently SATA. In the upper left hand corner of the back of the box it says "SATA 3Gb/s NVIDIA nForce Storage". Is that right? === haich [~haich@68.Red-81-39-100.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:03] imaek, so you need to get an sata drive thenb :) [08:04] how do I connect to the ubuntu channel through the terminal [08:04] kudzubane, yes, all the files referenced in menu.lst do exist [08:04] ompaul: on newegg they have Serial ATA II and Serial ATA150. How can I figure out which I need? [08:04] nutorian: read the manpage for irssi or get BitchX === sublime_ [~sublime@201.254.159.30] has left #ubuntu ["Abandonando"] === __Ace__ [~love@h55l211.delphi.afb.lu.se] has joined #ubuntu [08:04] night [08:04] you start it up, then tell it /server irc.freenode.net [08:04] then you tell it /j #ubuntu [08:05] /connect !!! [08:05] imaek, I know very little so maybe uncle google will help [08:05] and you start typing at will [08:05] XhyldazhK, then, it is like the filesystem support in kernel (or initrd + module ref if filesystem support is compiled as a module) [08:05] okay, thank you ompaul? [08:05] *. [08:05] jmullman: IRSSI is /connect :-) [08:05] ah, yes, the connect [08:05] old Bitcher here ;0 === kdawg [~kdawg@nurnberg.com] has joined #ubuntu [08:05] /server will disconnect you from your current server on irssi [08:05] kudzubane, how do I check that? [08:06] imaek, :) [08:06] XhyldazhK, wish i nave a bit more ubuntu-specific knowledge there to help you === zth [~zth@83.140.113.25] has joined #ubuntu [08:06] :( [08:06] who can help me? === nutorian_ [~nutorian@pool-71-101-199-65.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu === sijp-too-lazy is now known as sijp-too-lazy-to [08:06] XhyldazhK: What seems to be the problem :-) [08:07] XhyldazhK, i am not sure how the kernels are compiled in ubuntu [08:07] Jmullman: thankyou === Daehlie [~daehlie@66.220.116.121] has joined #ubuntu === carl [~carl@68.23.103.98] has joined #ubuntu [08:08] hi, how can i set shortcut keys to apps like i can in kde-menu? i need my terminal on f12 === prolli [~olli@dsl-084-059-149-244.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:08] XhyldazhK, hopefully, in a few hours, i will have a better idea when i install it [08:08] nutorian: no prob [08:08] FLeiXiuS, my system refuses to mount root partition at boot time after a kernel upgrade === tritium_ is now known as tritium [08:08] what is the name of the packet displayer thing.. I thought it was tetherial === yourghetek [~user@c-67-174-254-167.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu [] [08:09] tethereal [08:09] like the opposite of corporeal [08:09] ;) [08:09] sorry, philosophy major [08:09] can you modify the menu subsystem places and add additional 'shortcuts' ? [08:09] ethereal or etherape [08:09] voth, i wonder the exact same thing [08:09] XhyldazhK: What fs is the root partition? [08:09] ext3 [08:09] lol wonder, i wanna know i mean [08:09] jmullman, - thanks [08:10] carl: np === magog [~magog@68-168-15-129.miamfl.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:10] anyone? === leonel [~leonel@201.135.32.16] has joined #ubuntu [08:10] zth: are u running gnome? === linkouf [~linkouf@lns-th2-14-mon-82-64-48-208.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:11] goldfish, yepp === holycow [~biteme@mail.wjsgroup.com] has joined #ubuntu [08:11] zth: im pretty certain there is a shortcut section in the menu ..... [08:11] zth: u looked in the menu? [08:12] u mean under system? === blastmanu [~blastmanu@dyn-83-157-238-126.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #ubuntu [08:12] yeah === Wolven [~ion@c5100A7C5.sdsl.catch.no] has joined #ubuntu === blastmanu [~blastmanu@dyn-83-157-238-126.ppp.tiscali.fr] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [08:12] FLeiXiuS, and over that, I tried to reinstall without erasing my package database === sijp-too-lazy-to is now known as sijp-drinking-co [08:13] and ended up deleting my libc.mo [08:13] it's been a while since I've used GNOME, have they re-implemented the menu editor? === neuneu [~human2760@ADSL-TPLUS-18-193.intnet.mu] has joined #ubuntu === neoplasticity [neoplastic@pc237h30-021.med.unc.edu] has left #ubuntu [] === carl [~carl@68.23.103.98] has joined #ubuntu [08:13] you can download it, i'm not sure whether it is included in Gnome by default [08:14] goldfish, where should that be? i can't find anything [08:14] bummer [08:14] XhyldazhK: Whats the /etc/fstab look like? [08:14] can someone tell me the directory for the splah screen? i know its just a matter of editing a config file...pointing it to the png you want, but i cant find it === darius___ [darius@c-67-171-44-101.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:14] zth: emmmm [08:14] isn't there a .conf file that handles the menu sub-system ? [08:14] zth: sorry, memory is rusty havent used gnome in ages... [08:14] Anyone know where to set keyboard shortcuts in gnome? [08:14] # /etc/fstab: static file system information. [08:14] # [08:14] # [08:14] proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 [08:14] /dev/hda5 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 [08:14] /dev/hda6 none swap sw 0 0 [08:14] /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0 [08:14] root@ubuntu:/mnt# [08:14] :/ [08:14] At first i didn't really care... then i couldn't find the definition for it... now it is a mission. - lol "Plenk" What does it mean? === r0ver [~rover@96-213-126-200.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #ubuntu [08:15] Hello can you recomend an url about ubuntu amd64 + raid ? [08:15] or raid with ubuntu 64 ? [08:15] any idea what the tethereal options are to watch dhcp trafic? [08:15] msg ubotu tell XhyldazhK about flood [08:16] Plenk is a wrongly added blank before a punctuation character. [08:16] XhyldazhK: Did you try specifying where exactly the root partition is in the grub.conf? [08:16] exactly? [08:17] how is exactly? [08:17] the precise location? [08:17] as root=/dev/hda5, yes [08:17] zth: http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ [08:17] or more exactly than that? [08:17] XhyldazhK: That works just fine [08:17] XhyldazhK: Errors do you get when selecting the Ubuntu partition from the grub boot menu? [08:18] + What sort of * [08:18] IIIEars, did you get that? [08:18] the kernel starts, then says === MaartenFabre brbr reboot [08:18] VFS: Cannot open root device "hda5" or unknown-block(0,0) [08:19] Please append a correct "root=" boot option === spektr [~spektr@N053P019.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu [08:19] Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) [08:19] wait, I didn't think grub used the hda parlance === lamp- [~la@dsl-084-056-134-108.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:19] that's not grub, its the kernel === revxao [~eric@cpe-24-162-122-2.hot.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [08:20] aah [08:20] okay [08:20] grub doesn't tell me of any error [08:20] it's post-bootstrap === housetier [~housetier@dsl-084-056-154-184.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:20] yes [08:20] eew === Chand [~chand@ABordeaux-151-1-12-68.w82-125.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu === jmullman scratches head and digs in old old OLD documentation === HiddenWolf [~hidden@136.39.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu === jmullman cuts his fingers on a rather sharp piece of paper [08:21] XhyldazhK: Did you add support for Large Block Devices? === Raskall [~rolfas@topof.ronningveien.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:22] FLeiXiuS, nope... hoe is that? [08:22] how? [08:22] XhyldazhK: EXT3 seems to rely on support for this in your kernel. [08:22] IIIEars, that's a nice little resource, you may want to bookmark it. [08:22] how do I enable that? === mz2 [~mz2@81-1-66-209.homechoice.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu === syntaxerror64 [~dan@pcp03934904pcs.sthind01.mo.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:23] XhyldazhK: Re-compiling your kernel would be the easiest way. [08:23] It's under block devices. [08:23] Devices / Drivers / Block Devices === ARCTURUS [~jj@198tdev04.codetel.net.do] has joined #ubuntu [08:23] I didn't think this was a recompiled kernel [08:23] recompiling? [08:23] this was just a packaged install using ubuntu's scripty-thing, right? [08:24] that could take hours... cannot I simply install back the original kernel that came with ubuntu hoary? [08:24] XhyldazhK, sure you can [08:24] i simply updated via the panel applet! [08:24] hi HrdwrBoB [08:24] i didn't recompiled anythong [08:24] anything === sijp-drinking-co is now known as klvnv44 [08:24] didn't think so [08:24] although anythong would be nice right about now [08:24] I swear it [08:24] XhyldazhK, then your kernel is ok [08:25] s/is/should be :) [08:25] XhyldazhK: It's one of the only options that I can think of right now. [08:25] firasR, i can't find the right python-xdg in my repos? :( [08:25] :( === KrispyKringle [~Kringle@KrispyKringle.developer.gentoo] has joined #ubuntu [08:25] i have a clean install of ubuntu, i clicked the red icon in the taskbar to update but 2 of the updates it said it can't fetch. is there anything i can do? [08:25] how do I revert back to the original hoary kernel? === uc50ic4more [~robert@d36-69-80.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu === b00t [~b00t@198.150.11.88] has joined #ubuntu [08:26] anyone know where i can get an old/vulnerable ssh server? It needs to be unpatched with SSH 1 and RC4 [08:26] !?! [08:26] jmullman: I don't know [08:27] i'm helping set up a network security lab [08:27] ah [08:27] go grab an old source, say from ibiblio or something and compile from scratch === slicslak [~slicslak@S0106000f66e13f97.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:28] can I install without erasing the package database? I tried that and ended up with a non-chrootable root filesystem :( [08:28] Howdy folks. I just booted the PPC LiveCD to try to test out my firewire drive (Oxford chipset, which has some issues with OSX, apparently). Anyway, dmes shows the device is detected and "Attached scsi disk sda at scsi0", but i don't see it in /dev as sda. Any ideas? === snow [~snow4@p54B0DED9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:28] jmullman, but what server? openssh was fixed in its first instance, got another one? === SloMoSnail [~slomo@p5487F3B1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:28] I seem to remember SuSE had a broken package, but that was something like three years ago [08:28] or more [08:29] ibiblio is blogs?!? [08:29] <_Church_of_Foamy> how to go to hdc in konsole? [08:29] it is a lot of things === prolli [~olli@dsl-084-059-131-078.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:29] the website has links to everything they have, but they have a ton of stuff available, including old sources(at least they used to) of OSS [08:30] <_Church_of_Foamy> how to go to the cd-rom in console [08:30] OSS? === demc [demc@cpe-69-207-239-132.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [08:30] isn't that sound? [08:30] Open Source Software [08:30] nevermind, folks. [08:30] it's now attached. just took a while. [08:30] oh, right [08:30] how do I reinstall without erasing my homedir and my packages? === stars [~distant@24-176-75-077.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com] has left #ubuntu [] [08:31] First make a backup regardless of the procedure ;) [08:31] is all of this data you wish to keep on another partition than, say, / or /usr? [08:31] like a partition set aside for /home [08:32] nope :( === fan_gnr [~amit@dialpool-210-214-12-178.maa.sify.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:32] I have a new install of ubuntu on an old Dell laptop, and I can't for the life of me get it to recognize any PCMCIA cards, so no network. synaptic says pcmcia-cs is all up to date [08:32] then back it off to something else and kiss it good-bye [08:32] can I simply reinstall without erasing like with windows xp? [08:32] and learn from your mistake ;) j/k... it is a good idea to make a separate /home partition for things just like this...or upgrades for that matter [08:32] yes, you can do that [08:33] jmullman, how? [08:33] are you talking about your home directory or are you talking about windows on another partition? === jind [~jind@216-220-56.7002.adsl.tele2.no] has joined #ubuntu [08:33] the apt registry will keep registering all the apps i downloading with synaptic? [08:33] about my home and my apps [08:33] the apt registry is going to be history when you reinstall. period [08:33] and the apps you have installed thus [08:34] and your home directory if you don't have it somewhere safe [08:34] like a separate partition [08:34] jmullman, there is no workaround with that? cannot I simply install the base system that is outside of the range of apt? [08:34] apt, and all those packages ARE the system [08:34] There is no base system that is outside of apt. [08:34] nothing gets around dpkg [08:34] well, dpkg anyways. ;) [08:34] anyone have any idea why that functioning pcmcia hardware wouldn't be recognized? [08:35] demc, no kernel support === ksb [~ksb@81-86-109-195.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu [08:35] what about all those files that doesn't have a package? surely there are, i've done dpkg-queries over some files and they said that doesn't belong to any package [08:35] hi all [08:35] they are outside apt [08:35] demc, or pcmcia support isn't working === sKaBoy [~luogni@host119-103.pool8250.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [08:35] XhyldazhK, then you installed them or they were created by a piece of software. === jmullman slaps forehead [08:35] ;) [08:36] i cannot chroot to my old disk [08:36] can anyone tell me a few ssh server names? [08:36] how can i fix that? [08:37] x:are you booted to a livecd or something? [08:37] yes [08:37] I'm from ubuntu live cd [08:37] ok [08:37] I ried to make a partial reinstall, but I messed up [08:37] so i ended up with a non chrootable base system [08:37] partial reinstall? [08:37] tried === johan_ [~johan@HSE-Toronto-ppp179880.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu [08:37] kudzubane: any idea how to get that problem fixed? it'd be nice to have network on this machine [08:38] yes, booting from install disk in rescue mode and trying to install only the base system [08:38] interesting [08:38] demc, take a look and see if cardctl sees the card first of all [08:38] never heard of that before, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist === r0ver [~rover@96-213-126-200.fibertel.com.ar] has left #ubuntu [] === mpq [~mpq@c-24-22-133-235.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === nalioth [~Apple@cpe-66-25-43-80.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === Segovia [~segovia@modemcable165.197-201-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu === Podz [~Podz@82-71-7-36.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [08:40] anyone around to help a newb ? === shale [~ryans@131-132-165-209.gci.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:41] Podz: what is up [08:41] laptop. netgear cardbus wg5111. Live cd will not see that card to use it. === klvnv44 is now known as sijp [08:41] full install also fails to see it [08:41] Podz: not familiar with x86 networking (i run only PPC) [08:41] does anyone know of an ssh server besides openssh? [08:41] Podz: guess a hardline isnt available? [08:42] b00t: what is wrong with openssh? [08:42] b00t: thats the only one i know of [08:42] openssh is too secure, even in its first version [08:42] you guess right :) ..... though I could if I really had to. === Hoxzer^^ [Hoxzer@b62-248-241-114.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu [08:42] i need an insecure one for a security lab [08:42] b00t: lsh? dropbear ssh? [08:42] thank you [08:42] b00t: the ssh.com ssh1? === adnans [~adnans@linuxgoeroe.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu [08:42] I suppose you could tell openssh to just use ssh1 instead of v2 === stars [~distant@24-176-75-077.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [08:43] but it fixes the RC4 issue in ssh 1 [08:43] even with v1 of openssh === DrX [~olle@h21n2fls307o285.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu [08:43] nalioth: would a hardline make it very easy to get this card configured ? [08:43] cardctl recognizes my card just fine, how can i get it to work, now taht i know the system sees it [08:43] heck, if you are trying to make a security lab, and can't find a broken version of ssh...don't worry about teaching the old ssh tricks [08:43] smeg isn't able to add destop shortcuts :/ === dalbjerg [~dalbjerg@host095a.malmohus16.se] has joined #ubuntu [08:45] Podz: no, but it would negate the need for a wireless (at least in the house) [08:45] Hi I just installed kubuntu on my laptop, I want to dualboot windows and linux so i made a small partition for windows but i did the mistake of installaing linux before windows and now the windows XP (and windows 98) CD won't start, I even tried to remove grub from mbr but windows still doesn't boot, anyone know what causes this and how to fix it ? === albacker [~eni@217.24.240.8] has joined #ubuntu [08:46] the CD won't start the system? [08:46] nalioth: ta ... I'll go read up stuff. Thanks again :) [08:46] linux has nothing to do with that, sorry [08:46] zth: smeg is only (to my knowledge) your gnome menu(s) [08:46] Any dual ubunto/OSX users here? [08:46] ubuntu, sorry [08:46] i'm an OSX'er multiple linux user [08:46] ubotu XSANE is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/search_form [08:46] okay, IIIEars [08:46] DrX: how did you clean the mbr? === Heart_ [~jzdgc@p549C38A5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu [08:47] ksb: i run a dual osx/ubuntu machine [08:47] jmullman, actually that is not accurate as i had the same issue as him and i couldn't get the cd to boot either. [08:47] nalioth: I used "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=446 count=1" [08:47] DrX: try "fdisk /mbr" (a knoppix disk comes in handy here) [08:47] nalioth to take awa lilo/grub having windows ? [08:48] there are no linux installations that will stop any CD of any kind from booting a system === uc50ic4more [~robert@d36-69-80.home1.cgocable.net] has left #ubuntu [] === pestilence [~pestilenc@12-210-84-86.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu === dataw0lf|w [~dataw0lf@66.219.227.114] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [08:48] jmullman, if you have grub on it will. === randabis [~randabis@cpe-67-10-186-21.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [08:48] keikoz: yes, an empty mbr usually boots winduhs === slicslak [~slicslak@S0106000f66e13f97.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:48] no, your bios searches for the cdrom, not your harddisk [08:48] syntaxerror64: the machine boots before it even see grub [08:48] no boot manager can stop a boot cd... === dr_willis [~willis@12-222-71-130.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu [08:48] Well to cut to the chase, is there a way to resize the OSX partition to make way for the linux installation? [08:48] therefore, NO grub, lilo or linux installations will stop a cd from booting period [08:48] jmullman: windows installation cd boots but freezes after a while === mxpxpod [~BryanForb@wuw-ojr3gmca.dybb.com] has joined #ubuntu [08:49] nalioth, you sure about the empty part? [08:49] Podz: I'll give it a shot, but no promises [08:49] ksb: get your wallet and get "ipartition" [08:49] nalioth, jmullman yes i'm aware of that but i'm telling you that when you have grub it skips right over the cd installation, same experience as him. [08:49] i had to fixmbr first then it would boot off cd. [08:49] sorry, no [08:49] kudzubane: empty what part? === dgoodwin [~dgoodwin@c-24-10-209-78.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:49] is it a good, clean cd? [08:49] jmullman, yes i went through it today so what he had happened also happened to me. [08:49] syntaxerror64: you are talking about a different area of the disk [08:49] nalioth: righto I'll look into that, any free ways ;) ? [08:49] keikoz: yes, an empty mbr usually boots winduhs [08:49] jmullman: i tried 3 different windows cds, two windows XP and one windows 98 [08:49] nalioth, i went through it today. [08:49] anyone know why cardctl would recognize a card, but the card not work at all? === Earthen [~Earthen@dpc6745170010.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu === aeolist [~aeolist@ppp035.dialup.ntua.gr] has joined #ubuntu [08:50] ksb, complete reinstall of osx (with a trip to disk utility first) [08:50] nalioth, i know what you are saying and in theory it should not matter, but that's what happened. [08:50] i've been doing dual boots for a long long time and have yet to see anything related to the mbr that would hang a cd [08:50] nalioth: I may just do that [08:50] jmullman, me too that's why i was surprsied. [08:50] can anyone here help with Dansguardian [08:51] ok folks g2g back to work (lunchtime is too short) [08:51] nalioth, later === nalioth is now known as nalioth_wrkn [08:51] it simply defies logic, they are separate systems and have nothing to do with each other (other than the fact that they are on the same mobo) === jf6 [~adam@lns-p19-2-idf-82-251-104-231.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:51] jmullman, if i hadn't experienced it i would be right with you, but i did. [08:52] strange things [08:52] how did you fix it then, I'd like it for personal edification [08:52] jmullman, i had 80GB drive with win xp, 20GB drive with ubuntu and grub as multiboot. [08:52] anyone know how to restart Dansguardian without killing it === Ubuntian [~Ubuntian@81.56.196.103] has joined #ubuntu [08:53] ubotu dd is dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=446 count=1 Will erase your GRUB/Lilo Headache.(Careful) Dual Booting? http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WindowsDualBootHowTo/ [08:53] IIIEars: what are you talking about? [08:53] wasn't it 512 ? [08:54] well, whatever. [08:54] ubotu dd is ""dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=446 count=1" Will erase your GRUB/Lilo Headache.(Careful) Dual Booting? http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WindowsDualBootHowTo/" [08:54] IIIEars: okay [08:54] lol [08:54] Who can help me about Nvu? [08:55] how do i add keyboard shortcuts to my applictations? [08:55] the sound really sucks (saturated) since i did the ubuntuguide.org steps to "fix" sound problems, it did fix all the problems but now the sound is horrible (saturated) :-/ please can someone help me on this ? [08:55] 446 is the exact size. 512 doesn't hurt anything though. [08:56] jmullman, you familiar with repositories and the like? [08:56] forgetting count does :) [08:56] Who can help me about Nvu? [08:56] yeah, thing is, I've been using Fedora a lot, so I've got yum on the brain right now [08:56] what's the ? === [MUPPETS] Gonzo [gonzo@80.69.47.16] has joined #ubuntu [08:56] count is the number of times dd should repeat the command [08:56] what's Nvu? [08:56] jmullman, perhaps you'll know what i can do anyway. i went through the ubuntu starter guide today and added additional repositories as it said. [08:57] ya [08:57] jmullman, now, i am trying to install samba through the synaptic package manager. === CarlK___ [~CFKarsten@68.23.103.98] has joined #ubuntu [08:57] jmullman, and i'm getting this message "Depends: samba-common (=3.0.10-1ubuntu3) but 3.0.14a-3ubuntu3~5.04ubp1 is to be installed" [08:57] NVU is a fairly good HTML editor === SlackFart [~el_fart0@soundscape.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu === chol [chol@y.olaglig.nu] has joined #ubuntu [08:58] I'd try, just for fun, commenting out the new repositories and going with the default [08:58] if that doesn't work, then it could possibly be either an dpkg db problem or a package maintainer's fault [08:59] the thrid is the least likely though [08:59] anyone know of any osx chat rooms? [08:59] one question guys. i try to inst 5.10 but the f. machine (intel) says its not able to mount a filesys ext2 (or ext3) on /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc1 - i have tried lots of things [08:59] #osx [08:59] jmullman, 2 days ago when i first installed ubuntu i had no problem installing samba, but i didn't do the repository stuff form the starter guide. [08:59] jmullman, and very lively that is [08:59] i used pppoeconf to setup my adsl connection... how do i make it start on boot now? === wazquis [~akv@lnxbx.dk] has left #ubuntu [] [08:59] samuel: in that case, no, not really.. although there are a lot of chatters about in #webkit [09:00] syntax: I'd eyeball one of the repos you added then === Ubuntian really starts to wonder if linux is good for him after all... [09:00] remove them one by one till you get the results your looking for [09:00] jmullman, ok.. it seems like samba-common is a newer version than what samba wants me to have and it's not letting me install. [09:00] jmullman, thanks - i thought osx was easy to configure! im finding it harder than slackware === DJ_Mirage [~djmirage@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu [09:00] samuel: what is it you are having a problem with? === joxer [~joxer@84.234.226.242] has joined #Ubuntu [09:01] and yes, slack is the bomb [09:01] Ubuntian, everyone has his/her pain threshold === jf6 [~adam@lns-p19-2-idf-82-251-104-231.adsl.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [09:01] Sorry for sounding like a noob, But how the devil do i take a screenshot with ubuntu ? === synic [~synic@66.239.17.226.ptr.us.xo.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [09:01] jmullman, cant print, ive a cups printer in a debian machine, and another debian can print to it just fine, but the osx machine cant [09:01] joxer, printscr [09:02] joxer, the button :) [09:02] woot ? [09:02] what button ? loll [09:02] next to scroll lock _:p [09:02] joxer, you cal click on system/take a screenshot [09:02] joxer, just press print screes or in the system menu [09:02] or run gnome-panel-screenshot === dieffel [~chatzilla@0x535c23ba.bynxx11.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu [09:02] samuel: I've had that before... can't remember what I did to fix it lol been a long time [09:02] hmm ill try === Earthen [~Earthen@dpc6745170010.direcpc.com] has left #ubuntu [] [09:03] lol thanks XD [09:03] i thought linux was always bleeding edge, but my sound sucks, there is no decent newsgraber, OOo can't open an elborate powerpoint presentation...i'm using ubuntu for 3 months now but if it's not bleeding edge... [09:03] dunno... [09:04] bleeding edge try gentoo :} [09:04] ubuntian: it is a server os, if you want unix on the desktop... go OSX [09:04] Ubuntian, bleeding edge means different things to different people === Gremlin [~Gremlin@195.131.171.110] has joined #ubuntu === BoD_SWAT [~swat@fia159-68-100.dsl.hccnet.nl] has joined #Ubuntu [09:04] hoooooow do i make keyboard shortcuts in gnome?! i wanna start firefox with f11 and terminal with f12 like i did in kde! [09:04] to bleeding edge means the best newsgraber around should be on linux first, not on window$ [09:05] get a mac [09:05] lol [09:05] what happened to IRC? Some script kiddies found it funny to flood everything? [09:05] mini [09:05] or dual G5 2.7 === nobile [~nuni@65.165.85.42] has joined #ubuntu [09:05] newsreaders and powerpoint are not a linux priority... it is a server os [09:05] BoD_SWAT: aye [09:05] this is coming from a longtime user [09:06] The last sing I saw was a lot of "Team Windows" flashing bye, before I got kicked from the channel [09:06] jmullman, my mistake i thought it wanted to do better than windows [09:06] jmullman, linux is also very nice as a desktop OS. The more people (desktops) use it, the more (desktop) apps there will be === Afgan_ [~ircd@195.131.171.110] has joined #ubuntu [09:07] a server os thats trying very hard to be a desktop os [09:07] Ubuntian, I recon that the first newsreader was on linux (console). [09:07] Ubuntian, technically, linux is only the kernel, so... [09:07] welle gnu/linux whatever [09:07] man isn't it possible to add shortcut keys to apps in gnome or what?! [09:07] Still just the kernel... [09:07] zth, yeah [09:08] Xabbu|, so how do i do it [09:08] gnu/linux is not the kernel it's the whole thing [09:08] Umh.. politics [09:08] zth, System -> Settings -> Keyboard shortcuts... (or something, I have a swedish interface === ceu [~ruut@194-185-220-16.f4.ngi.it] has joined #ubuntu [09:08] Ubuntian, everyone has to determine whether an os is right for him/her, if a particular linux distro (or distros) isn't meeting your needs, than maybe you should consider trying something else or going back to something you like === Quantur [~quantur@ppp-62-245-242-131.mnet-online.de] has joined #ubuntu [09:08] RMS^H^H^HObiWan has tought you well... [09:08] General Question: How do you up the sound setting after installing alsa? [09:08] Xabbu|, can't enter my own shortcuts there [09:09] hm... === Ghost-nine [~ubuntu@c-24-130-172-96.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:09] kudzubane, exactly, just wanted to share my thoughts [09:09] ? :) [09:09] Ubuntian, understood [09:09] zth, No but most of them already is there. [09:10] having a spot of trouble with ubuntu and sata... i've read a few solutions, but they're not helping out... anyone mind helping m out? === james_ [~james@ip68-103-194-173.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:10] like opening firefox and the terminal === hussam [~hussam@194.126.31.19] has joined #ubuntu === digitus [~timo@dsl-084-056-239-089.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:10] hello all === henriquemaia [~henriquem@cb-217-129-171-196.netvisao.pt] has joined #ubuntu [09:10] Xabbu|, but i wanna use konqueror instead of nautilus === eneph [~eneph@cpe-24-174-19-145.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [09:11] trying to set up clearhealth....need the following installed before i do... === Xero84 [~Xero84@cpe-65-24-30-40.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [09:11] apache...mysql === vulcanoo [~vulcanoo@AClermont-Ferrand-157-1-32-186.w86-193.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu [09:11] hello james [09:11] zth, I haven't got a clue on how to fix that... [09:11] hi [09:12] hi [09:12] well, i guess no one had the sata problem... === iceonnet [~iceonnet@dsl222-201.adsl.no] has joined #ubuntu [09:12] I have a question. I still have only 20GB of empty space. Is there a way I can move my linux installation + boot record to a bigger hard drive? [09:12] Ghost-nine, What is the problem? [09:12] hussam, It should be... === lin_ [~lin@82-71-9-233.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [09:13] james_ did you get apache and mysql installed or do you have a question on them? [09:13] Xabbu|, i have an sata drive as my boot device, installed grub the the mbr there... ubuntu is on the IDE slave... but grub wont start... the error is "GRUB" [09:13] not very informative [09:13] hussam, I've never done it myself though [09:14] Xabbu|: any ideas how ? [09:14] right, after much talking with my ubuntu loving lodger i'm gonna take the full plunge, now if i use half my powerbook hdd for ubuntu and then later install OSX will OSX try and trash the ubuntu partition(s) ? === Thorrn4 [~Thorrn4@pool-151-198-162-171.nwrk.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:14] well...not sure how to install apache with ubuntu [09:15] hello!! I am having problems with the speed of my computer...and I was told that it might be the kernel; how can I reload the orginal Ubuntu kernel? [09:15] how do I disable ipv6 on sarge, its slowing some things down? [09:15] hussam, You have to copy the whole partition to the disc and the edit the bootmanager(grub or lilo) to boot the kernel from the right place. [09:15] sorry wrong channel === tsw goes to #debian --> [09:15] it's probably not slowing anything down. [09:15] tsw: with that said, it shouldn't be slowing anything down if its not being used. [09:16] If you think so, consider looking into gentoo. [09:16] clearhealth and freeb2 must be installed in parallel directories. For simplicity they share a directory called clear in the tarball for this reason. clear should be placed in a directory published by Apache with php rights. Google for LAMP installation or visit the Apache and PHP website for more information on how to do this. [09:16] hello!! I am having problems with the speed of my computer...and I was told that it might be the kernel; how can I reload the orginal Ubuntu kernel? [09:16] MattS: apt-get install ... sits for a 30 seconds or so before connecting to server [09:16] Ghost-nine, uhm, What happens after that error? [09:16] Xabbu|, nothing... [09:16] tsw: well is apt-get even set to use ipv6 in the first place? [09:17] any suggestions with this input? jjesse [09:17] So anywho, I just booted the PPC LiveCD, and it worked fine, and now I go to reboot it and I can't boot it. OpenFirmware doesn't think it's a bootable CD, apparently. Any idea what could've hapenned? [09:17] MattS: no idea [09:17] all my machines have working ipv6 setups... none of them use it.. and none of them are slowed down [09:17] Xabbu|, it's just stays there, i'm on an ubuntu livecd right now [09:17] Ghost-nine, okey, well it finds the mbr, but seems to lookup because or something... === slicslak_ [~slicslak@S0106000f66e13f97.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:19] Xabbu|, i was thinking because the sata drivers weren't loaded yet... so i tried making an initrd image with the drivers in it... didn't work out [09:19] Xabbu|, or... i could have done it wrong === Ng [~Ng@tenshu.net] has joined #ubuntu === jind [~jind@216-220-56.7002.adsl.tele2.no] has joined #ubuntu === truz24 [~r@12-220-103-82.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu [09:19] Ghost-nine, hm, strange... [09:20] is there an easy-ish way of hooking dm-crypt into hotplug so it can deal with an encrypted USB key, for example? === perlentaucher [~daniel@dsl-084-058-016-091.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu === perlentaucher [~daniel@dsl-084-058-016-091.arcor-ip.net] has left #ubuntu ["Verlassend"] [09:20] msg ubotu NVU is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HowToInstallNVUHTMLEditor/ http://www.nvu.com/ Linux/Mac/Windows Web authoring. [09:20] It's just your avarage Mozilla imho === tck [~tck@212.2.181.192] has joined #ubuntu === smecta [~smecta@217.195.54.11] has joined #ubuntu [09:21] msg ubotu ""NVU is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HowToInstallNVUHTMLEditor/ http://www.nvu.com/ Linux/Mac/Windows Web authoring."" === smecta [~smecta@217.195.54.11] has left #ubuntu [""] [09:21] IIIEars: try a / before the msg ;) [09:21] !NVU [09:21] goldfish: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? [09:21] (sheepish grin) Sorry..... [09:21] hehe :) [09:21] what is the best gtk2 theme :) === truz24 [~r@12-220-103-82.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu === keknehv [~ryanh@c-24-9-84-191.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === mulux [~mulux@anneberg-39-26.ip-pluggen.com] has joined #ubuntu [09:22] hello!! I am having problems with the speed of my computer...and I was told that it might be the kernel; how can I reload the orginal Ubuntu kernel? [09:22] How does one close the X-Server in init 3? [09:22] kill it :) [09:22] The Ctl+Alt+Backspace Doesn't work... [09:23] And neither does killing the process [09:23] is it just me or does synaptic's force version not actually work? [09:23] It just reloads [09:23] kill -9 kill -9 kill -9 [09:23] ? [09:23] kill gdm [09:23] or kdm [09:23] or xdm [09:23] Aah... [09:23] Thanks [09:23] whatever spawns it back to life :) [09:23] keknehv, try stopping gdm [09:23] Zombie stuff lol [09:23] Okay, thanks all. [09:23] killall gdm, etc; ) === helmoltz [~gibbs@213-156-52-111.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu === tribbin [~tribbin@h91009.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #ubuntu === tribbin [~tribbin@h91009.upc-h.chello.nl] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === Daylighthater [~fredoflob@dD5763E92.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu === wm_eddie [~eddie@69-167-232-17.miamfl.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:26] does anyone use irssi ? [09:26] yes :) [09:26] ssl [09:26] yeah === iBuntu [~devDelay@cpe-24-166-4-36.indy.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [09:26] man grub [09:26] does it have to be compiled with it [09:26] or is there an option === tribbin [~tribbin@h91009.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #ubuntu [09:26] can someone help me w/ my problem? [09:26] tck: I'm not sure, but the one in ubuntu seems to have ssl support [09:27] Xabbu|, what exactly am i looking for? [09:27] yeah im on an openbsd box at the mo === CerBerO_ [~CerBerO@pc-138-47-120-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:27] something about bugs with sata in grub === linkouf [~linkouf@lns-th2-14-mon-82-64-48-208.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu === Daehlie [~daehlie@bc116121.bendcable.com] has joined #ubuntu === bah [048830696@AC9FE896.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu === Goshawk [~vincenzo@host191-98.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu === darius___ [darius@c-67-171-44-101.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === dr88dr88 [~gerrit@h174040.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #ubuntu === tck [~tck@212.2.181.192] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [09:30] ok ubuntu, here i come === m_ [~m@marek.mh2net.cz] has joined #ubuntu [09:30] Ghost-nine, Im doing some checks after bugs... === bleck [~bleck@c-67-161-254-72.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:31] bbl [09:31] Xabbu|, yea, i was still looking for solutions, but it's kinda hard to search for an error called "GRUB" [09:31] where to file sent to 'trash' in the app konqueror go? [09:32] wondering if anyone can help, trying to get java installed, and azureus, and ive updated soruces.list with the one on ubuntuguide.org but it still can't find the packages... do i need to add soemthing else? === envel [~envel@c7204-1gbit-gw.etelecom.ru] has joined #ubuntu [09:32] where do file sent to 'trash' in the app konqueror go? === jf6 [~adam@lns-p19-2-idf-82-251-104-231.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:33] i assume ~/.trash [09:33] Ghost-nine, I can understand that... I don't find much, many have had the same error. kind of. But no sulotion [09:33] bleck, There's a whole section on the wiki with how to get Java information. [09:33] hello!! I am having problems with the speed of my computer...and I was told that it might be the kernel; how can I reload the orginal Ubuntu kernel? [09:34] does ubuntu support the 54g wifi built into the powerbook? === stars [~distant@24-176-75-077.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com] has left #ubuntu [] === ivoks [~ivoks@lns01-0483.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu === iceonnet [~iceonnet@dsl222-201.adsl.no] has joined #ubuntu [09:34] ksb, I don't think anything does, except OS X. [09:34] ksb, no; the manufacturer isn't co-operative [09:34] Xabbu|, the only other option i can think of is rebuilding the kernel with sata drivers as static... === iceonnet [~iceonnet@dsl222-201.adsl.no] has joined #ubuntu [09:34] wm_eddie: ahhh nuts [09:35] err.. === jpfarias [~jpfarias@proxy.gerencia.ufrn.br] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [09:35] built in... not static [09:35] Hello! How to make OpenOffice use fontconfig (simply how to make OOo fonts look like in all other applications)? === hondje [~hondje@c-67-174-186-96.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:35] Ghost-nine, That should work, but it's alot of work... [09:35] how to install xvid and divx?? === zeedo [~zeedo@www.reboot-robot.net] has joined #ubuntu === Hoxzer [Hoxzer@dsl-hkigw2p34.dial.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu [09:36] install mplayer / vlc / xine with codec packs... and don't bother === neuneu [~human2760@ADSL-TPLUS-18-212.intnet.mu] has joined #ubuntu === spartas [~tim@adsl-065-082-233-182.sip.btr.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu === Hoxzer^^ [Hoxzer@b62-248-241-114.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu [09:36] iceonnet, There's a place where you can find the package win32codecs. That'll probably solve all your problems. === eddro [~eddro@84.217.134.152] has joined #ubuntu === shop [~tim@213-152-59-251.dsl.eclipse.net.uk] has joined #ubuntu [09:37] wm_eddit: thanks :P hehe [09:37] mplayerhq.hu prolly.. just google === davro [~davro@cpc4-ches2-3-0-cust194.lutn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu [09:37] the w32codecs package is in the nerim repos === umarmung [~Schreiber@p54AA11CD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu === digitus [~timo@dsl-084-056-229-246.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu === jwm68 [~jmack@adsl-66-73-223-46.dsl.ipltin.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu === mruiz [~mruiz@pc-124-65-104-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:38] anyone have a quick minute to help a n00b? [09:38] !marillat [09:38] IIIEars: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about === shausman [~shausman@rhea.troll.no] has joined #ubuntu [09:38] hi anyone on === mruiz [~mruiz@pc-124-65-104-200.cm.vtr.net] has left #ubuntu ["Abandonando"] === shausman [~shausman@rhea.troll.no] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [09:38] IIIEars: it's in the BreakMyUbuntu wiki page I think [09:39] shop, no, we're all bots [09:39] (details of the nerim repository that is) [09:39] talk to me [09:39] s/nerim/marillat/ [09:39] deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat testing main === bobbie [~bobbie@mek33-3-82-230-168-233.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:40] wm_eddie, nope it didn't... i installed the codecs listed at http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs but divx and xvid movies wont play [09:40] marillat@nerim.net should explain it more clearly === [koji] [~koji@adsl-66-142-135-93.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:40] Xabbu|, i was following this here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-30233.html , but one thing i'm not sure about... is the guy doing this on a livecd? or did he somehow do this on his ubuntu install === mruiz [~mruiz@pc-124-65-104-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:40] iceonnet, just install mplayer [09:40] or vlc or xine or whatever [09:41] ok [09:41] I recommend vlc, but mplayer although not as newb friendly is better at playing everything. === hondje prefers xine [09:42] Ghost-nine, I guess he is doing it from a installed ubuntu [09:42] ubotu nerim is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BreakMyUbuntu [09:42] IIIEars: okay [09:42] I am brand new to Ubuntu and Linux. Got sick of forgetting to type "sudo", so went to /usr and did "sudo chmod -R 777 *"...now get "sudo: must be setuid root". Anyone know what to do? === novaflare [~nova@cpe-24-93-172-93.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [09:42] Ghost-nine, The only difference is that you have to mount your harddrive to the livecd.. And to the same changes in the mounted harddrive. [09:43] hehe, you really chmod -R 777 *? :) [09:43] ^^ [09:43] jwm68: if you're lazy, then use System Tools > Root Terminal [09:43] Xabbu|, i chrooted into my ubuntu install, but i can't update the variables, so the kernel module path points to the livecd kernel module path [09:43] jwm68: reboot into rescue mode and do chmod u+s /usr/bin/sudo, but really you should re-install I think ;) [09:43] aren't we supposed to still be using the mirrors for backports? [09:44] jvm68 : log in fail safe mode and do chmod +s /usr/sudo ? === terrex [~terrex@84-122-69-8.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu === drasko [~drasko@kds12-077.ptt.yu] has joined #ubuntu [09:44] how to go back/forward screen in debconf? === NemesisBLK [~Menes@24-205-166-140.wc-eres.charterpipeline.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:44] should I really reinstall? I tried to go to /usr in recovery mode and "chmod -R 755 *" no help === yure [~yure@dhcp-212-235-229-194.sd.uni-lj.si] has joined #ubuntu === NemesisBLK [~Menes@24-205-166-140.wc-eres.charterpipeline.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [09:44] yow [09:45] Ghost-nine, Strange. it should work. [09:45] jwm68: setuid is a permission controlled by chmod, so you need to "chmod u+s /usr/bin/sudo", but you need to do it as root, so you need to reboot into rescue mode. === viork [~viork@201.144.63.149] has joined #ubuntu [09:45] jwm68: I suggested reinstalling simply because there will be other subtle permissions problems I expect === holger2 [~holger@dsl-082-082-125-022.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:45] doctor, it hurts when i wipe out everything's permissions ... "then don't wipe out everything's permissions" [09:45] Xabbu|, is there a way to update those variables from within the chrooted environment? [09:46] jwm68: if you really really hate sudo that much, give the root user a password and use that ;) === envel [~envel@c7204-1gbit-gw.etelecom.ru] has joined #ubuntu [09:46] i'm not too familiar with how debian does things [09:46] Ghost-nine, I don't really understand how you mean... [09:46] jwm68, you should be able to change the permissions as root using sudo -s === hemppa [~hemppa@adsl-225-168.kymp.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:46] openssl will hate you forever if you messed with its default permissions structure [09:46] i suggest reinstalling === holger2 [~holger@dsl-082-082-125-022.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:46] this is my first linux install. how do I reinstall without losing everything that I already have -- the stuff that did not come with Ubuntu 5.04 (XMMS, MPlayer, etc)? === sproingie s/openssl/openssh/ [09:47] how to go back/forward screen in debconf? [09:47] Ghost-nine, You just have to open the files you have to edit.(give the full shortcut eg /mnt//boot/ [09:47] or something. [09:47] packages (xmms, mplayer, etc) are easy to install (again) [09:47] jwm68: well, you could back-up /var/cache/apt/archives [09:47] just copy off all your data like documents and pr0n to a cd === iBuntu [devDelay@cpe-24-166-4-36.indy.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [09:47] and blow it away. next time, don't do that [09:47] drasko: as far as I know you can only pick the options that are visible, so if it doesn't offer a back/forward then you can't. I could be wrong though ;) [09:48] and next time, make sure /home is on its own parititon [09:48] i just installed and configured no-ip... how do i find out if it's already configured to start on boot? === a_monkey [~elmunky@user-0can33s.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu === kakalto [~kakalto@wired-210-54-56-44.ps.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu [09:50] sweet, I fixed the locale problem [09:50] btw, if that kernel bug was amd64 only, why did ubuntu push a kernel my way this morning? [09:50] cool. thanks for the assistance, guys. I am going to kick off a reinstall right now. once again, thanks. [09:50] np :) === jwm68 [~jmack@adsl-66-73-223-46.dsl.ipltin.ameritech.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === stricjux [stricjux@jux.campus.luth.se] has joined #ubuntu [09:51] You'd think, in a logical world, that people coming to linux from windows would have it in their heads to make backups [09:51] windows people make backups? [09:51] news to me ;) [09:51] hondje: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2005-June/000146.html [09:51] well, if all he messed up was /usr/bin with that command he didn't need to reformat === IcemanV9 agreed with Ng :) [09:51] Ng, no need to insult windows users [09:51] kudzubane: I would have said the same about any OS === Chislon [~Chislon@24-176-45-129.dhcp.klmz.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [09:52] kudzubane: because nobody backs up ;) [09:52] i do [09:52] just have to get a list of which binaries in /usr/bin/ are setuid.. could get that from the livecd or somewhere else [09:52] i have like 2 floppys full of backups [09:52] hey guys.... could you help me with something, im using 5.04 Hoary and i want to setup an old box as a small router / server... i did the "server" install and everything went smooth.. [09:52] but! [09:52] bpuccio: "This does not affect the i386 and powerpc platforms in anyway. (CAN-2005-0756)" ... by i386 he's not saying x86 in general? [09:52] instead of listing two eth devices.. i see only one configured... [09:52] how do i bring up the other one? [09:53] (i did a lspci and they are both detected, or listed in there) [09:54] stricjux: does "ifconfig -a" list it? === azeem [~mbanck@proxy-out.lrz-muenchen.de] has joined #ubuntu === vulcanoo [~vulcanoo@AClermont-Ferrand-157-1-32-186.w86-193.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [09:54] yeah, it does [09:54] stricjux: if so, make sure /etc/network/interfaces has configuration for it and do "ifup devname" === pmazer blinks [09:54] if you put "auto devname" in that interfaces file it will come up automatically on boot === orlandu [~jones@67.122-84-212.ippool.ndo.com] has joined #ubuntu [09:54] why can't ubuntu play mp3s? [09:55] ("devname" obviously being eth1 or whatever it is) [09:55] where is the interfaces file? === Gandalfar [~gandalf@BSN-77-186-194.dsl.siol.net] has joined #ubuntu === nubbe [~martin@c-af2970d5.031-17-67626713.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu [09:55] stricjux: /etc/network/ [09:55] Where can I find hoary installation guide? [09:55] well, thanks anyway Xabbu| [09:55] pmazer: rtfw [09:55] i appreciate the help === novaflare [~nova@cpe-24-93-172-93.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === Ghost-nine [~ubuntu@c-24-130-172-96.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [09:55] hondje: there's another fix right below that, discovered by Chris Wright pertaining to mmap [09:55] what if ifup eth1 returns "ignoring interface eth1 [09:55] (rtfw? Read the f* wiki?) [09:55] that applies to all hardware archi's [09:56] bpuccio: oh, I should read more :-D Thannks!! [09:56] stricjux: hmm [09:56] kvidell: indeed :p [09:56] I like it :) [09:56] hi, weiss einer vo neuch obs einen ATI treiber fr die 7500 radeon aus dem thinkpad fr Xorg gibt? [09:56] should i just add the interface in the interfaces file? [09:56] Hello, I'm trying to install a package called "freeguide", it's on the ubuntu server but I can't find it in synaptic (even though I have multiverse checked). Can you help? URL: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/f/freeguide/ [09:56] WHO CALLED ME [09:56] WHO [09:56] WHO [09:56] SPEAK UP NOW [09:56] OR DIE. [09:56] ups [09:56] lol === thoreauputic [~peter@wolax8-211.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [09:56] is ubuntu not considered valid by the GNU Project due to its ocassional recommendation of non-free software? === mameluke [bo@84-72-14-63.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu [09:57] snow, hey MORON ever heard of #ubuntu-de [09:57] raDeon, you've got issues, consult a shrink [09:57] hmm [09:57] djp, RMS doesn't like Ubuntu. [09:57] raDeon, recently ;.) [09:57] Juhaz, stay out of my business. === loo [~loo@h195202157016.moe.cm.kabsi.at] has joined #ubuntu [09:57] snow, don't come in here talkin' that filthy pig latin [09:57] everyone could use a little k/ubuntu in their lives :) [09:57] english mothafucka, do you speak it? [09:58] raDeon, if you cannot follow the ubuntu coc, I suggest you leave [09:58] raDeon, go home. [09:58] raDeon, right after you stop spamming everyone with your insults and bullshit [09:58] where i can download Wolfeinstein ET? [09:58] NG? [09:58] !code [09:58] thoreauputic: No idea [09:58] just a quickie, tar stores permissions, right? [09:58] please [09:58] djp, In fact there's only one truly free distribution. [09:58] stricjux: yeah, I'm not sure why it's saying that I'm afraid [09:58] !code of conduct [09:58] thoreauputic: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about [09:58] wm_eddie: really? is there any reference of this available do you know? [09:58] hmm that's needed [09:58] haha he said "coc" [09:58] mulux: it should. All it does is archive files [09:58] my Thinkpad R51 freezes when using battery after a while on a harddisk access - the harddisk LED keep lit and everything freezes [09:58] wm_eddie: well according to the GNU Project website, they recommend 3 distros [09:58] stricjux: did you configure that device to have a static IP or to use dhcp? === elkid [~elkid@elkid.user] has joined #ubuntu [09:58] did somebody see this as well? [09:58] randabis: okay, thanks! [09:59] wm_eddie, djp discussions of non-ubuntu distros can be taken to other channels please [09:59] where i can download Wolfeinstein ET? [09:59] ng: i didnt configure it at all [09:59] (using hoary and linux-image from hoary) [09:59] jf6: .fgi === thoreauputic [~peter@wolax8-211.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has left #ubuntu [] [09:59] Burgundavia: apologies [09:59] djp, no problem [09:59] http://www.gamershell.com/download_2355.shtml [09:59] i foun === elkid [~elkid@elkid.user] has joined #ubuntu === thoreauputic [~peter@wolax8-211.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [09:59] found [09:59] thx [09:59] Burgundavia, notice how I didn't mention the other distro. :) [10:00] bye === stars [~distant@24-176-75-077.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu === gulnaz [~yakamoz@62.162.208.239] has joined #ubuntu === jf6 [~adam@lns-p19-2-idf-82-251-104-231.adsl.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [10:00] name... === javier_ [~javier@239.Red-213-97-99.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu === BuzW [~BuzW@w034.z064003218.dfw-tx.dsl.cnc.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:01] hah [10:01] which other distro, debian? === Church_of_FoamY [~shane@24-177-160-171.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [10:01] that's the first time I told someone to fgi (f* google it) and they actually followed through [10:01] is hoary using a ext3 or ext2 filesystem? === envel [~envel@c7204-1gbit-gw.etelecom.ru] has joined #ubuntu [10:01] Afgan_, ext3 by default [10:01] afonit: it uses whatever you tell it to use [10:01] Can anyone tell me how to get a package from the following location to show up in synaptic? http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/f/freeguide/ [10:01] afonit, ext3 by default [10:01] burgundavia: ty [10:02] my / partition and /home are xfs === sleeper [~sleeper@DWM-146-117.go.retevision.es] has joined #ubuntu [10:02] what the hells this gulnaz? [10:02] /boot = ext3 [10:02] conduct [10:02] orlandu: No, you can't do that [10:02] bah [10:02] i don't even know you don't pm me if you don't know me [10:03] hondje, do you know how I might install that package if not through synaptic? [10:03] D, even [10:03] or you will feel my squerlly rath [10:03] orlandu: why not just sudo apt-get install freeguide? [10:03] <[koji] > how do you enable dma on a usb dvd device? === Invisible [~Invisible@82.114.73.1] has joined #ubuntu [10:03] randabis: because it's not there, apt-cache search freeguide doesn't see anything either? [10:03] sudo apt-get install freeguide in a terminal [10:03] where is fstab located? [10:03] hmm [10:03] makes me think that website LIES [10:03] well then [10:03] Church_of_FoamY: /etc [10:03] randabis, thanks for the help [10:03] thank you ^_^ [10:03] perhaps there's a deb somewhere [10:04] randabis, it returns an error saying it couldn't find it [10:04] orlandu: it must not be available then :/ I'd search for a .deb [10:04] <---thinks gulnas isa bot >.< [10:04] ah, I found it [10:04] it's in deb-src [10:04] orlandu: are u sure it's there?? === IRCfil [~tekee@itctools.fiu.edu] has joined #ubuntu [10:05] Im not using Xwindows [10:06] randabis, I'll try googling for that [10:06] orlandu: it's there [10:06] Basically how do I get Framebuffer working? [10:06] snow, update your install, the partition problem is fixed since a few days back [10:06] can synaptic do source? [10:06] IcemanV9, there are entries in the freeguide directory, but not a .deb [10:06] And is it possible to get mouse support in console mode [10:07] what command do i use to mount an smb share? [10:07] hondje - deb-src? === Gandalfar [~gandalf@BSN-77-186-194.dsl.siol.net] has left #ubuntu ["."] [10:07] IIIEars: yeah, that's where orlandu's pkg is [10:07] how to add flash plugin for totem? [10:07] hondje, so I need to add multiverse for my source repository, download and compile? [10:08] IIIEars: the Code of Conduct factoid is " !conduct" by the way (in case you were looking ) :) === azol [artem@217.168.67.13] has joined #ubuntu [10:08] orlandu: yep, and it wants java2 pkg for some reason [10:08] Basically how do I get Framebuffer working? === Eiggen [~Miranda@dsl-81-176.utaonline.at] has joined #ubuntu [10:08] orlandu: at least it said so in apt-get build-dep === flodine [~flodine@c-24-4-174-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:09] Help! When i use seek in totem-xine, samba give a segfault! What a bug? === MrMinit [~MrMinit@171.80-203-115.nextgentel.com] has joined #ubuntu [10:09] thoreauputic - Thanks :) [10:09] hondje, I believe it uses xmltv, which uses the j2sdk - I know how to get those two, it's just freeguide I don't have (yet!) [10:09] how to add flash plugin for totem? === iceonnet [~iceonnet@dsl222-201.adsl.no] has joined #ubuntu === slicslak [~slicslak@S0106000f66e13f97.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:10] orlandu: cool....install the other two, then just sudo apt-get source -b freeguide, should do it up :) === nebo [~nebo@p5481FA95.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu === kurumin [~kurumin@200.207.162.15] has joined #ubuntu [10:11] drasko, you need totem-gstreamer. apt-get install gstreamer0.8-swfdec [10:11] hondje, thanks, I'll go and try that! === fmb [~fabio@200.223.112.162] has joined #ubuntu === helmoltz [~gibbs@213-156-52-111.fastres.net] has left #ubuntu [] === Church_of_FoamY [~shane@24-177-160-171.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [10:11] whats the command to mount a hard drive? === fmb is now known as fmb_brazil [10:12] Church_of_FoamY: mount [10:12] how to play my windows games, f.ex world of warcraft? [10:12] thanx === spine55 [~spine@69.15.212.218] has joined #ubuntu [10:12] iceonnet: pay Cedega $5 a month === anto9us [~antoninus@cpc2-ptal1-5-1-cust109.swan.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu [10:12] what command to mount an smb share [10:12] church_of_foamy: sudo mount -o === johns^ [~john@decande.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu [10:12] iBuntu: smbmount [10:12] no worky [10:12] iBuntu: GNOME can do that as well usually [10:12] ibuntu: do you have smbclient installed? [10:13] through synaptic === [XPD8] -ReDDoG-` [~reddog@global100.symvionics.com] has joined #ubuntu [10:13] iBuntu: mount -t smbfs (if you have the samba utils intalled) [10:13] iBuntu: instead of using samba, put sfu on the windows box and use nfs === InitMass_ [~InitMass@c83-248-181-159.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu [10:13] brazilians? === hondje loves stupid solutions :-D [10:13] smbmount command not found [10:14] fmb_brazil: #ubuntu-pt I think [10:14] so i need to install smb utils [10:14] I'm thinking so, iBuntu [10:15] iBuntu: sudo apt-get install smbfs === jackobill [~jackobill@modemcable050.69-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu === Chislon [~Chislon@24-176-45-129.dhcp.klmz.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [10:15] What's the password for the user "ubuntu" on the livecd? [10:15] Is it possible to get mouse support in console mode [10:15] IRCfil: Yes, it sure it [10:16] KrispyKringle: its blank i think [10:16] hmm [10:16] that sucks === joxer [~joxer@84.234.226.242] has joined #Ubuntu === battlecat [~richard@4.7.58.27] has joined #ubuntu [10:16] IRCfil: but I don't remember what I was using for that....mcd or something [10:16] ah, nevermind. i killed xscreensaver from an open console. thanks :) [10:17] IRCfil, gpm [10:17] Hi does anyone know if KDevelope will work as a web editor? [10:17] or hondje :) [10:17] Can anyone tell me how to install "libwxgtk2.4-python" under ubuntu ? [10:17] chol: ah HAH! Yes === janux [~janux@ipd50af40e.speed.planet.nl] has joined #ubuntu === xhaker [~xhaker@c3-213-228-183-227.netvisao.pt] has joined #ubuntu [10:17] joxer: with synaptic and the search feature? :) [10:17] geez anyone who logged this irc chat for a few days will have a rockin search reference [10:17] Apt-get does not find gpm [10:17] hondje, well i cant find it XD === XandriX [~slack@dsl-135-33.aei.ca] has joined #ubuntu [10:18] IRCfil: It's in universe [10:18] joxer: sudo apt-get install libwxgtk2.4-python [10:18] hondje, glad to be of assistance :) [10:18] is that a server [10:18] ? [10:18] well, it runs as a daemon [10:19] I guess you can say that's a server [10:19] I wouldn't, but who am I to judge? :) [10:19] lonewolff, dossnt seem to work :/ [10:19] IRCfil, look in /etc/apt/sources.list, read some, and then enable the universe sources [10:19] oh, man....totally misunderstood the Q :) [10:19] universe runs as a server ? [10:19] my drive won't mount === ikypakis [t18@195.245.229.17] has joined #Ubuntu === bah [048830696@AC815292.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu [10:20] it's supposed to be /mnt/storage [10:20] so I guess I need to check and see if I have universe installed first [10:20] IRCfil: ignore me, I was talking about something else [10:20] joxer: its definately on my list, however i have enabled universe and multiverse [10:20] and the filesystem is ext3 any idea what i'm doing wrong? [10:20] I see it too [10:20] Church_of_FoamY: error msgs? [10:21] OK [10:21] mount: mount point /mnt/storage does not exist === xvlun [~Jan@62.206.114.179] has joined #ubuntu [10:21] and if i do it in console [10:21] Church_of_FoamY: sudo mkdir /mnt/storage [10:22] lonewolff, it says somthing like it issnt a innstalation candiate === taidi [~taidi@60.68.97-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:22] joxer: one second [10:22] k [10:22] bingo thank you [10:22] ^_^ [10:22] no problem [10:22] Hi all, can Ubuntu deb packages be used on Debian Sid? === djs [~djs@ppp-38-102.grapevine.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [10:23] joxer: works fine on this end, try sudo apt-get update before trying to install === dismember [dismember@dismember.vladislavovo.com] has joined #ubuntu [10:23] hello there [10:23] could someone tell me which package contains the alsaconfig command ? [10:24] lonewolff, 2 sec ill change language to english so i can give you excact error message === Weiss [~weiss@students.dow.cam.ac.uk] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [10:24] dismember: alsa-utils i think [10:24] joxer: ok [10:24] dismember, packages.ubuntu.org is a good site [10:24] lonewolff, correction, as soon as i figure out how ;) [10:24] ubuntu doesn't have alsaconf === cart [~samuel@200.150.139.248] has joined #ubuntu [10:24] No? Cool [10:24] thechitowncubs: so what i have to use ? [10:25] What? [10:25] alsa-utils contains only alsamixer and alsactl === Pop_pa_FrEaK [~patrick@CPE000ae6c702bb-CM000e5ce665ba.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [10:25] dismember: my appologies [10:25] was just a guess [10:25] Since when am in this conversation? === Pixel83 [~pixel@p54AAE166.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:25] lonewolff: i looked all day..and search with apt-cache [10:25] thechitowncubs: since he didn't hit tab twice [10:25] use the force [10:26] dismember: seeing as we have been informed its not there, it would be very hard to find lol [10:26] you must use the force [10:26] lonewolff, care to tell me where i cange language ? lol [10:27] How do I get Framebuffer working 800x600? [10:27] joxer: i would, but i dont know ..... [10:27] lol, ok XD [10:27] joxer: you can change language if you have the right pkgs, whne you log in at gdm... [10:27] apparently alsaconf "caused more problems than it fixed" ( someone told me - maybe bob2 or crimsun ) [10:27] joxer: or, you can use scim if you just want to change input methods === ^thehatsrule^ [tehats@tehats.0ffice.info] has joined #ubuntu [10:28] hmmm ? === iBuntu [devDelay@cpe-24-166-4-36.indy.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [10:28] hondje, what does that mean excactly ?lol [10:28] nothing, really, just taking up space :) === misfit-toy [~guy@cpe-70-112-252-226.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === sorahn [~sorahn@dyn247-44.clayton.edu] has joined #ubuntu [10:28] joxer: what do you want? Whole desktop in another language? === _bt [~bt@monkeytronics.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu === mz2 [~mz2@81-1-66-209.homechoice.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [10:29] hondje, yeah [10:29] joxer: which one? [10:29] IRCfil, look at /usr/src/linux/Documentation/fb/* and recompil your kernel [10:29] joxer: to change the language the output comes in - log out and select a different language from the login screen (assuming its installed) [10:29] urm, first one i guess [10:29] joxer: I mean which language [10:29] oh, ok ill try ;) [10:29] english [10:29] ill try changing it at login [10:29] brb [10:29] joxer: okay === r4ndy^ [~r4ndy@c462dceb908b8022.session.tor] has joined #ubuntu [10:30] I was afraid of that! === swe3tdave [~swe3tdave@Toronto-HSE-ppp3761490.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu === Madeye [~Jad@213.186.179.71] has joined #Ubuntu === swe3tdave [~swe3tdave@Toronto-HSE-ppp3761490.sympatico.ca] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [10:31] sudo smbmount //computer/share /home/me [10:31] Kernel recompile frel! [10:31] gui disappears === ikypakis [t29@195.245.229.17] has joined #Ubuntu [10:31] anyone know if Ubuntu Mythtv amd64 package works on Debian pure64? [10:31] had to restart last time and now this time === joxer [~joxer@84.234.226.242] has joined #Ubuntu === Weiss [~weiss@students.dow.cam.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu [10:31] thanks worked XD [10:31] :) [10:32] my mounts on /media don't show on the desktop, only when i restart dbus-1, any way i can change this behavior? [10:32] urm, damn i cant remember wich pakkage i was supposed to install XD [10:32] oh, anyone around here know java (not installing java) [10:32] I know OF java :p === pmazer [~pmazer@c-67-191-170-172.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:32] Thanks! Mouse support enablesd. [10:32] randabis: hehe [10:32] Thanks! Mouse support enabled. [10:33] I hate how commercial software has shittier support than F/OSS stuff [10:33] yeah [10:33] live like this is great, actually mcafee has live chat support too :) [10:34] hm apt-get install alsa-source..where the source is extracted ? [10:34] lonewolff, heres the error i get, libwxgtk2.4-python has no installation candidate [10:34] or where is the place where apt caches the files [10:34] dismember, dpkg -L alsa-source === kiwnix [~egarcia@154.red-82-158-154.user.auna.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:34] thanks [10:34] joxer: try enabling universe in your config [10:34] java.awt.AWTException: cannot open XIM at sun.awt.motif.X11InputMethod.(X11InputMethod.java:148) ... [10:34] lonewolff, ok ? [10:34] I'm thinking it wants me to install XIM, but what pkg is that? === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu === spanglesontoast [~spangles@eddland.plus.com] has joined #ubuntu [10:35] joxer: do you know how to do that? [10:35] if I type mount, it says the smb share was mounted to /home/me and says type smbfs (rw) [10:35] lonewolff, actually no :/ [10:35] Framebuffer support is not enabled by default in the kernel? [10:35] joxer: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and un comment the commented stuff, or do it in synaptic (not sure how as i dont use it) === synd [~phillip@h87.43.55.139.ip.alltel.net] has joined #ubuntu === nalioth_wrkn is now known as nalioth === jf6 [~adam@lns-p19-2-idf-82-251-104-231.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:37] IRCfil: Why would framebuffer be on by default? [10:37] re === novaflare [~nova@cpe-24-93-172-93.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [10:37] thanks alot lonewolff :) === biezt [UPP@d217165.upc-d.chello.nl] has joined #ubuntu [10:38] any1 here ? === Zugwrack [~Zugwrack@cpe-24-27-120-83.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [10:39] <^thehatsrule^> biezt, look around, and see 527 users :) === liable_ [~linux@dialup-223.120.221.203.acc02-apli-cai.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu === synd wonders if ubuntu will ever come with mainstream PCs such as dell or hp [10:40] biezt: depends on what you r looking for === sijp is now known as sijp- === liable_ is now known as liable [10:40] synd: yer darn right it will === LinuxJones [~willy@blk-222-221-81.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu [10:40] nalioth: hope so [10:40] nalioth: so apple wants the pentium-m [10:40] ubuntu is amazing [10:40] lin_: synd is amazing === iBuntu [devDelay@cpe-24-166-4-36.indy.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [10:41] synd: don't know, havent read my scandal-sheets today [10:41] nalioth: oh i have :> === ompaul wonders why I can't get a 701.1MB image to burn in nautilus [10:41] ompaul: use k3b and select 'overburn' [10:41] ompaul: maybe because cds cant hold more thn 700MB [10:41] bah! [10:41] ompaul: the nautilus burner is almost useless === b3ar1n0 [~b3ar@adsl-ull-187-23.44-151.net24.it] has joined #ubuntu [10:42] ths disk in quesiton is marked as a 800MB disk that was what was confusing me :) === njan [~james@82-35-210-18.cable.ubr02.glen.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [10:42] oh [10:42] i didnt know they made 800MB cd-r === linuxgeekery [linuxgeeke@dial-b-128-83-251-125.telesys.its.utexas.edu] has joined #ubuntu [10:42] ompaul: would you use the WinXP built in cd burner? 'nuf sed [10:42] i guess gnomebaker is better than installing all that kde libs ontop of gnome === ChinaCatJones [~chris@pool-71-111-176-217.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:43] would anyone use winxp built in anything? [10:43] <^thehatsrule^> ompaul, its 800mb for a so marked 700mb cd... the 100mb is for error checking [10:43] synd: Hopefully not..... [10:43] <^thehatsrule^> ompaul, for 800mb for your data, is called overburn [10:43] well philips made it, and nalioth no I would not, because I can't run that crud on this box :) === synd just discovered Skype [10:43] grand thanks for that info === jf6 [~adam@lns-p19-2-idf-82-251-104-231.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:44] <^thehatsrule^> np :P [10:44] synd: Skype gets real laggy if you aren't a paying customer ;-)) [10:44] lol :p [10:44] cos what was really doing my head in was that the md5 sum is correct :) === kori[idiot] [~kori@212.39.73.142] has joined #ubuntu [10:44] Zugwrack: i aint noticed that.. === dismember [dismember@dismember.vladislavovo.com] has left #ubuntu [] === JovenComunista [~e1980@201.249.81.219] has joined #ubuntu [10:45] synd: Mostly during more peak hours..and we all know that varies from country to country...heh [10:45] Zugwrack: ea === linuxgeekery [linuxgeeke@dial-b-128-83-251-125.telesys.its.utexas.edu] has left #ubuntu [] === ceu [~ruut@host23-250.pool80104.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [10:45] VoIP is fascinating [10:45] Indeed it is... === r0d [~r0d@CPE-65-30-208-109.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [10:46] time for a sandwich === synd is hungry [10:46] what should I do to set up the language? only "dpkg-reconfigure locales" ? === blueyed [~daniel@iD4CC0332.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu === eraser` [eraser@ip70-181-44-105.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:46] I've upgraded from warty, and now a lot of programs are in english (they should be in italian) === sorahn_ [~sorahn@sub246-175.clayton.edu] has joined #ubuntu === Hoxzer [Hoxzer@dsl-hkigw2p34.dial.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu [10:47] (e.g. all the gnome programs) === linuxgeekery [linuxgeeke@dial-b-128-83-251-125.telesys.its.utexas.edu] has joined #ubuntu [10:47] hi everyone, I'm looking for an X terminal that is like xterm but includes support for scrollback and transparancy. I do not need tabs or anything else, any suggestions? [10:48] eraser`: eterm [10:48] Hey everyone...what the heck is "Breezy" about? === eric_ [~eric@207-237-134-23.c3-0.80w-ubr15.nyr-80w.ny.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu [10:48] or aterm [10:48] eraser`: eterm, aterm, Terminal, Konsole, pick your poison [10:48] thank you === mameluke [bo@84-72-14-63.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu [10:49] Zugwrack: it's the codename for the next ubuntu release [10:49] i wouldn't reccomend Konsole :P [10:49] nothin' wrong with konsole [10:49] randabis: ahhhh...thanks.. [10:50] well, just my opinion... [10:50] We went from warthogs to wind..that musta thrown me off...hehehhe === SirGir [~gir@h36n8c1o1099.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu [10:50] grep: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/libstdc++.la: No [10:50] such file or directory [10:50] Can anyone help me with this? [10:50] I prefer it has a small footprint; I plan on having fluxbox open 6 of them to fill my third workspace :p [10:51] then i'd reccomend aterm eraser` === ubuntu [~ubuntu@cpe-24-209-242-19.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [10:51] ok [10:51] yeah aterm would be better [10:51] Sero, so I get it you're compiling? [10:52] Sero: you have build-essential? === elmaya [~elmaya@dsl-200-78-65-121.prod-infinitum.com.mx] has joined #ubuntu === sar0man [~sar0man@ts3-a63.Murmansk.dial.rol.ru] has joined #ubuntu [10:52] you have the c++ dev libs? (part of build-essential) === bozso [~bozso@catv-5063414d.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #ubuntu === Davey [~davey@davey.user] has joined #ubuntu === root_____ [~root@235.Red-83-39-43.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:55] root_____: irc as root is a bad idea [10:55] i want to ask about framebuffer while loading my ubuntu. how can i do it? [10:55] indeed === albacker [~eni@217.24.240.8] has joined #ubuntu [10:55] oh yeahh... irc as root = you hacked [10:55] sar0man: you edit the kernel line of menu.lst iirc [10:56] keeping up with #ubuntu #gentoo and #debian is hard... [10:56] vga=xxx (number for resolution) === seb128 [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-15-72.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu [10:56] ubuntu should start using framebuffer-ng imho === bienve [~REal@200.88.199.107] has joined #ubuntu === _4strO [~astro@AStrasbourg-251-1-78-80.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu [10:57] lonewolff: one of those IM aggregators uses that as a nick, also [10:57] nalioth: what as a nic? [10:57] nick* [10:57] lonewolff: one of em uses "root" as its default nick === Thorngil [~Twright@c-67-174-193-113.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:58] nickname [10:58] ah [10:58] hello all === eddro [~eddro@84.217.134.152] has left #ubuntu ["Lmnar"] === lonewolff wouldnt know about things like that === _kevin is now known as root === SS2 [~simon@dsl-084-057-008-101.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:59] linuxgeekery, yeah KDE base for konqueror install. [10:59] I am in desperate need of help with my hoary hedgehog install [10:59] am I hacked? === nutorian [~nutorian@pool-71-101-199-65.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu === root is now known as _Kevin [10:59] root: yer playin with fire [10:59] root : are you using irc as root ? [10:59] lol [10:59] lol jeez === brum_ is now known as brum === SS2 [~simon@dsl-084-057-008-101.arcor-ip.net] has left #ubuntu [] [11:00] lonewolff: somebody ginned up a IM (yahoo, msn, icq, etc) to irc gateway [11:00] randabis, how to edit this line? I'm lame [11:00] lonewolff: the deaomon uses 'root' as its irc nick [11:00] nalioth: ah ic === flashsider [~flashside@192.108.250.62] has joined #ubuntu [11:01] <_Kevin> what is deaomon === crevette [~crevette@ip-24.net-82-216-186.nice.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu [11:01] a daemon that runs off onit, instead of init [11:01] :) [11:01] can someone help me with an install issue??? [11:01] _Kevin: daemon (spelt correctly) is a little program that runs behind the scenes, takin care of stuff === scoperesolutoin [~scopereso@12-203-134-12.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu [11:02] ask [11:02] <_Kevin> ohh ok [11:02] anyone running an audigy 2 in here? [11:02] yes I am === linuxgeekery [linuxgeeke@dial-b-128-83-251-125.telesys.its.utexas.edu] has left #ubuntu [] [11:02] did you do the headers update lately and lose sound? === joxer [~joxer@84.234.226.242] has joined #Ubuntu === bigjb-work [~james@24.164.242.113] has joined #ubuntu [11:03] no I haven't even got ubuntu running yet [11:03] Hi, does anybody know of a good windows emulator ? (not wine) [11:03] in fact I am looking for advice [11:03] oh === azeem [~mbanck@proxy-out.lrz-muenchen.de] has left #ubuntu [] [11:04] joxer i just got winex [11:04] anyone running a dell xps gen3 in here? [11:04] scoperesolutoin, winex ? another version of wine ? === hyphenated [~cgilmour@nzns1.eservglobal.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu === slicslak [~slicslak@S0106000f66e13f97.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu === ggeller [~ggeller@69.17.112.98] has left #ubuntu ["Hey,] === ceu [~ruut@host23-250.pool80104.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu ["Client] [11:06] joxer, its made for gaming but i hear you can run win32 apps in it [11:06] scoperesolutoin, where do i get it ? :) [11:06] scoperesolutoin: its wine with directx support for gaming === flashsider [~flashside@192.108.250.62] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [11:06] joxer, i got it from a friend but you have to pay for it === redLAW [redLAW_LSD@213.149.124.73] has joined #ubuntu [11:07] I an trying to install 5.04 but it keeps locking up and it see my PS/2 socket any ideas? I have tried both Live and permanent versions [11:07] scoperesolutoin, awwww :/ know of another one then ? wine dossnt support this game im playing (Knight Online) well atleast it refuses to install it [11:07] ok, got smb share mounted, finally [11:07] joxer, nope [11:07] what command recovers screens [11:07] just used mount -o [11:07] scoperesolutoin, could you please send it to me then ? XD [11:07] is there a way to boost the buffer on vlc? [11:08] im trying to play movies that are on a smb share and they are pretty choppy [11:08] I gotta restart due to some sound problems if i get back on and working i'll send it to you [11:08] nutorian: "gnu screen"? would be "screen -r" [11:09] <_Kevin> lol he's not comming back to send it [11:10] <_Kevin> I always use to use that came excuse when it came time to send some files to people i didn't know [11:10] nalioth: thank you [11:10] <_Kevin> same* [11:10] hey Kevin can you see this? === lkerscher [~lkerscher@p549FB76F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:10] <_Kevin> yes === albino [albino@129.123.41.6] has left #ubuntu [] [11:10] ok good === mariusz [~mariusz@dpj1.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu [11:11] calc: around? === kassetra [~kassetra@c-67-171-201-213.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:11] i would like to try a different window manager to the gnome one, anyone know of a good fast one worth trying plz? === admrl__ [~admrl@24-180-218-223.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [11:12] samuel: try xfce4 [11:12] samuel: you don't want gnome or you don't want metacity? [11:12] can anyone help me with adding repositorys into my sources.list === jaysinn [~jason@ool-182deb46.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:12] every time i try it i get an error [11:12] anyone have an ideas for what codecs to use for vlc or a way to get it to get vlc to play xvid etc better [11:12] Amaranth, i do want metacity, just want to try something else [11:12] admrl__: you get the error "adding" or "updating"? [11:12] nalioth, thx [11:12] iBuntu: vlc has it all built in [11:12] admrl__: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto [11:13] well i had to get vlc-plugin-esd to get audio [11:13] thanx [11:13] hi, i have a little problem with my mpd [11:13] but is there a way to increase its cache or how much memory it uses [11:13] it is installed, but it won't raun [11:13] run === liz4rd [~liz4rd@static24-72-76-248.regina.accesscomm.ca] has joined #ubuntu [11:13] cuz a streaming file is only a bit worse than a local movie file [11:13] 8 23:09 : problems opening audio device while playing "Wonderwall - Losin You.mp3"Jun 8 23:09 : problems opening audio device while playing "Wonderwall - Losin You.mp3" [11:13] they both skip and step in video and audio [11:13] this is the error, someone an idea? === Chislon_ [~Chislon@24-176-45-129.dhcp.klmz.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [11:14] the mpd is running and i tested it with the mpc client === mxpxpod [~BryanForb@wuw-ojr3gmca.dybb.com] has joined #ubuntu [11:15] Any good docs for compiling a Kernel for Ubuntu? === Thorngil [Twright@c-67-174-193-113.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:15] thanks for your time Kevin === Absenth [~nein@host-64-179-40-194.ind.choiceone.net] has joined #ubuntu === kassetra [~kassetra@c-67-171-201-213.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:16] hola [11:16] any non-noobs in here who are willing to try to help me solve an install issue :) ? [11:16] any guesses on when Breezy might be ready for average user testing? === woodwizzle [~corey@user-0c6t0t8.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu [11:17] Who saw Brice de Nice? === doza [~doza@80.48.149.129] has joined #ubuntu === pepsi [~pepsi@72-254-48-97.client.stsn.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:17] I made a BIG booboo. I put a spelling mistake in my fstab file, Now whenever I try to boot, the partition with my fstab on it is read only, so I cannot correct it! [11:18] vlc even skips when playing mp3 from smb share [11:18] there has got to be something better [11:18] or a way to fix this [11:18] woodwizzle: have you tried knoppix? [11:18] nalioth. No, I had thought abuot that, I don't think I have a live CD handy now, was hoping there was another way to fix it first [11:19] woodwizzle, google linux on a floppy, or use a knoppix distro, boot to that, mount the fubar partition, repair fstab, reboot sans floppy/cd [11:19] Ok, thanks guys =) === crevette [~crevette@ip-24.net-82-216-186.nice.rev.numericable.fr] has left #ubuntu ["Hasta] [11:19] iBuntu, use NFS? === djs [~djs@ppp-38-102.grapevine.net.au] has left #ubuntu [] [11:19] nfs, works better? [11:20] woodwizzle: is it the partition you are on now? [11:20] but I am saying even from local file this player is shitty [11:20] Thorngil: what's the problem? [11:20] iBuntu ahhh..... well.... === stijnAWAY is now known as stijn [11:20] iBuntu, I used Xmms for playing MP3's after adding all the unoffical parts. [11:21] xmms or beep are good [11:21] beep's a little fresher [11:21] xmms [11:21] Yeah, its my current parition [11:21] just as long as it doesnt skip [11:21] I can't even touch files [11:21] my PCMCIA is recognized by cardctl and cardinfo and i have all the information for it looking fine, but it won't work as my network card, how do i get it set up? [11:21] but vlc makes movies skip when they are local or on a network share [11:21] woodwizzle: then you'll need a liveCD of some kid [11:22] thought so, No biggy, just means I gotta wait and download one =) [11:22] woodwizzle: so go hit your neighbor up (i hate ytpos) [11:22] nalioth can't help you with movies, haven't worked with them at all, sorry. [11:22] woodwizzle: or a boot floppy === count0_food [~phillip@60-234-131-154.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu === blank [blank@ppp-69-237-201-169.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu === ubuntu [~ubuntu@cable200-116-218-48.epm.net.co] has joined #ubuntu === BL4NK [blank@ppp-69-237-201-169.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:22] Absenth: huh? === mikail [~mikail@ip68-2-80-65.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu === osiegr [~osiegr@201.135.12.152] has joined #ubuntu === calamari [~calamari@dialup-4.240.241.88.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:23] nalioth, sorry, that was for iBuntu === osiegr is now known as muta [11:24] anyone here use point2play? === kafeine [~kori@212.39.73.142] has joined #ubuntu [11:24] Absinth, thanks, I am installing xmms === jf6 [~adam@lns-p19-2-idf-82-251-104-231.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu === digitus [~asdfmann@dsl-084-056-229-246.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu === blank [blank@ppp-69-237-201-169.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:25] iBuntu: i run ubuntu PPC and use totem. it works 98% of the time === kafeine [~kori@212.39.73.142] has joined #ubuntu === X7C [~xtc@pc-67-84-83-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:26] I do Totem>VLC>mplayer [11:26] vlc should do most of the stuff you want it to [11:26] Although I try to avoid things that don't work with totem. === Absenth [~nein@host-64-179-40-194.ind.choiceone.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === jakobbg [~jakobbg@79.62-97-240.bkkb.no] has joined #ubuntu [11:28] Hi. I have to manually click "Activate" my eth1 (wireless) after each boot. What config file can I change to fix this (make it autoenabled)? [11:28] totem for playing what tho? [11:28] my PCMCIA is recognized by cardctl and cardinfo and i have all the information for it looking fine, but it won't work as my network card, how do i get it set up? [11:28] I use Totem for video and audio streams. [11:28] iBuntu: totem-xine, of course [11:28] iBuntu: it plays most things [11:29] yeah, totem-xine here too [11:29] iBuntu: video. [11:29] Is it possible to play WMV9 movies on ubuntu yet? [11:29] gstreamer will be able to play w32codecs soon too. [11:29] wm_eddie: no [11:29] I remeber reading some /. article about someone decoding them, but I can't seem to no matter what backend I use === Nub [~nub@p54B823C8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu === flodine [~flodine@c-24-4-174-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === joxer [~joxer@84.234.226.242] has joined #Ubuntu [11:30] wm_eddie: gstreamer-pitfdll allows you to use the 3 most popular windows only codecs (wmv, qt, and one other), not all of w32codecs === wm_eddie has to go to work now [11:30] oh ok [11:30] hmmm, does anyone here know how I can list dummy packages that I've got installed & throw them out ? [11:30] woodwizzle: jlj has wmv9 working on vlc, but i can't get him to commit to cvs [11:30] Can anyone help me install cedega ? i have a tgz archive, but i dunno how to install it === viriatus [~ricardo@195-23-147-33.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu [11:30] woodwizzle: so you'll have to use xine and w32codecs === Will0r [~wilgeroth@p54825B26.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:31] woodwizzle: which is actually illegal, so... [11:32] I am trying to find hidden files on my pc, i know about the ls -a to find hidden files but when i get into transgaming folder i can't access program files directory, msg is bad command or filename, can anyone help [11:33] woodwizzle: you will have to soil yourself (use a winduhs box) to convert wmv9 into something universal [11:33] mikail: cd Program\ Files [11:33] mikail: you have to use \ to escape the space [11:33] ok, thanks === mcmahonm [~mcmahonm@CPE000d88983755-CM000f9fa625ca.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [11:34] how can i switch from the 386 kernel to the 686 kernel [11:35] sinope: install the kernel with apt-get, reboot and choose the new one in the grub menu === erUSUL [~erusul@212.59.212.152] has joined #ubuntu [11:36] is a p3 considered i686? [11:36] yes [11:36] p2 and above [11:36] thanks === flodine [~flodine@c-24-4-174-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [11:37] well poop :( === nrl [~nrl@nrl.student.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu [11:37] totem seems to be playing movies well now [11:37] streaming even [11:37] how do I re-initialise my fstab without reboot? === toran [~me@d6-75.rb3.clm.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu === dockane [83f2a9277d@p5084B907.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:38] Yes totem does seem to be doing much better. I can't wait for the next version with the integrated playlist. I still begrudgingly use the xine backend though === A[D] minS [~Whisky@196.204.237.130] has joined #ubuntu [11:38] how i can add media from harddisk [11:39] anyone have any idea about configuring pcmcia ethernet? it's recognized, but not functioning [11:39] i want apt-get install read from harddisk [11:39] not internet [11:39] whats the name of the archiving tool in ubuntu plz? [11:39] samuel file-roller ? [11:39] samuel: there are several === siropel [~siropel@82.77.57.70] has joined #ubuntu [11:39] anto9us, re-initialise? Once written in disk you are done [11:39] anto9us, mount -a [11:40] woodwizzle, the one in the accessories menu [11:40] samuel: Archive Manager [11:40] how can i add a script to automaticaly get runned at startup ? ...with user root ... [11:40] samuel, yeah, thats file-roller === miscz_ [~miscz@amz76.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu [11:41] as root it would of course be sudo file-roller [11:41] thanks :) [11:41] nalioth, woodwizzle thanks [11:41] how can i add a script to automaticaly get runned at startup ? ...with user root ... [11:41] runned? [11:41] you make it littler to fit in the computer [11:41] samuel, to get executed [11:42] english not my native language [11:42] samuel, try the session manager, I'm not sure if you can get it to run as root there though but you probably can [11:42] how can i add a script to automaticaly get executed at startup ? ...with user root ... [11:42] siropel, put it in /etc/init.d and add it as a service? === anatole [~anatole@a84-0-161-47.adsl-pool.axelero.hu] has joined #ubuntu [11:42] hi [11:43] samuel, how can i do that ? [11:43] how can i add it as a service i mean [11:43] use update-rc.d [11:43] siropel, make an rc.local script in init.d an add the service [11:43] add it late, say at 99 === wHisKy [vampyre@m59.net81-67-104.noos.fr] has joined #ubuntu === A[D] minS [~Whisky@196.204.237.130] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [11:45] . === YoungJules [~jules@d54C31E45.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu === dydimustk [~dydimustk@192.231.160.6] has joined #ubuntu [11:48] where can I find a clean sources.list ? [11:48] dydimustk: on ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ [11:48] where can I find a better driver for the Viper V550 (thinks it's a riva tnt chipset)? [11:49] (old hardware) === wochang [~wochang@host5-89.pool80117.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu === epohs [~Miranda@65-210-97-152.cust.dnet.net] has joined #ubuntu === wochang [~wochang@host5-89.pool80117.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu ["Sto] [11:51] anyone knows how to disable caps lock? === saber_ [~Miranda@user-11fa2o5.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu === Trinitrogen [~root@12-210-200-158.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu [11:52] it annoys the hell outta me [11:52] Getting errors (beeps) during boot, but the screen scrolls too quickly for me to tell what they are. Is there any way to view only the errors? Nothing is jumping out of dmesg, but then again, I don't know exactly what I'm looking for. === Spug [~Spug@ti211310a081-8266.bb.online.no] has joined #ubuntu [11:52] hey guys, have any of you gotten kmuddy working in [k] ubuntu? [11:52] anatole, does toggling the Caps Lock key not work for some reason? [11:53] he wants to disable it, not toggle caps on/off [11:53] toggling? [11:53] i want to disable it [11:53] i don't need it === SLicE_ [~slice@cpe-069-132-110-082.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === T5 [~Jan@dsl-084-059-048-060.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:53] i already found a script on win to do that === hyphenated [~cgilmour@nzns1.eservglobal.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu [11:54] hey guys anyone using icewm on ubuntu Hoary? I needed help editing the menu config file. I don't know where to go [11:54] <---noob [11:54] Folks, I'm trying to identify the model/make of my ethernet card; I'm looking under Computer -> System Configuration -> Device Manager. Where is my network card listed - anyone know offhand? [11:54] xen working :> === arthurb [~arthurb@alesia-9-82-225-146-12.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:54] just gotta change the memory line.. [11:54] SLicE_: have you looked at your hidden homedir dirs? === thierry_ [~thierry@modemcable050.69-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu [11:55] was working with 64mb of ram.. swapped procesors and added 512 [11:55] Xenguy: is it a PCI net card? [11:55] nalioth, you'll have to elaborate [11:55] nalioth: probably (not sure, but it's new) [11:55] SLicE_: open a terminal, and type "ls -a|more" and look for .icewm or something similar [11:56] Xenguy: open a term and type "lspci" [11:56] nalioth: tx, trying that... [11:56] nalioth, I have .icewm there [11:56] hi, I am trying to change the locales... I dpkg-reconfigures locales put it doesn't seem too work, when I install packages perl yells about locales [11:57] SLicE_: so in the terminal, type "file .icewm" and see what it is [11:57] nalioth: Am I looking for 'Ethernet controller' ? [11:57] arthur, there is a link === jcole [~jcole@atlwebproxy1.core.hp.com] has joined #ubuntu === Ogami [Ogami@159-134-55-209.as1.cty.limerick.eircom.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:58] http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-6856.html === TD [~mike@foghorn.codeweavers.com] has joined #ubuntu [11:58] worked for me [11:58] and I didnt even do the cleanup step === Ogami is now known as big_O [11:58] just do the edits it says === Burgundavia [~corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:58] reboot [11:58] Xenguy: yep === flodine [~flodine@c-24-4-174-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:59] does ubuntu ship the NTFS driver out of the box? [11:59] nalioth: thanks a lot [11:59] nalioth, it says file.icewm [11:59] iBuntu, I followed the link but it doesn't work === orospakr [~orospakr@ip-182.81.126.206.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:59] SLicE_: "file" is a command to tell you what some file is