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nmorseIt's just I make my site unusable except for the Get Firefox button12:01
nmorseApparently columns in CSS is hard to get working in IE12:01
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nmorseAnd I won't break my code for their convenience12:02
gdhheh which then alienates any corporate user who doesn't have access to install run non-approved apps - joy.12:02
nmorseWhen was the last time you saw someone who didn't have that access?12:02
gdhmon-fri12:02
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nmorseMost stuff isn't coded to even run under non-admins12:02
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nmorseI hate Windows developers, I really do12:02
apollo2011How do I find out where my internal modem is?12:02
nmorseFor some reason, I can't get Neverwinter Nights to run in non-Admin mode12:03
gdhapollo2011: look for the phone jack on the back of your PC? :/12:03
nmorseEven though it runs under linux under normal users12:03
oshapollo2011: lspci12:03
chaps0063is there something similar to the cpu frequency scaling monitor (for gnome) that works with kde?12:03
gdhWindows is evil - I agree completely with the 'most apps assume admin rights' sentiment12:03
gdhlazy lazy lazy12:03
nmorseI wouldn't have nearly the problems that other box generates12:03
nmorseThey can't assume that on Linux, which is why I like it12:04
nmorseIt tends to generate more secure stuff12:04
nmorseIf not more well-coded12:04
apollo20110000:02:08.0 Communication controller: Conexant HSF 56k Data/Fax/Voice/Spkp Modem (rev 01)12:04
liz4rdlol this one time at myu school i wanted to install a program and i neded administrator but about where it said adminitrator it gave me an option of just installing it under the guest account i was already on LMFAO12:04
apollo2011osh: that doesn't tell me what /dev/... it is...12:04
liz4rdthast windows for you12:04
nmorseIndeed12:04
nmorseI remember Win98's idea of a logon12:05
nmorseI hit Cancel and had full rights to the computer12:05
gdhaye, just no network access :)12:05
gdhwell, no MS networking, anyway12:05
sirukin#kubuntu, where shit already known is repeated.12:05
nmorseSometimes no network access12:05
nmorseSometimes the school network let me on anyway12:05
nmorseSometimes it wouldn't let anyone log in12:06
nmorseI hate Windows12:06
sirukinSometimes I don't care.12:06
gdhsirukin: come on, I've had a few, I'm just blathering.12:06
gdhsirukin: Tell us something astounding.12:06
sirukinI saw goatse.12:06
liz4rdlmao @ sirukin12:06
gdhI say tubgirl.12:06
gdhTwice.12:06
gdhI win.12:06
sirukinthat, and I'm eating Ben and Jerry's Coffee Toffee Icecream12:07
gdhYou win.12:07
sirukin=D12:07
gdhI signed up to B&J's 'cool club' this week in the hope they'll send me vouchers :)12:07
sirukinhaha12:07
gdhhaagen-dazs is still the king, tho' :)12:08
gdhb&j always plays second fiddle.12:08
sirukinyeah12:09
sirukinI think haagen-daz secretly sprinkles crack into their ice cream just to get people addicted.12:09
sirukinit's one big conspiracy.12:09
gdhoh, absolutely.12:09
apollo2011osh: that doesn't tell me what /dev/... it is...12:10
sirukinapollo2011, perhaps you should rtfm ( www.tldp.net)12:10
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sirukinlspci tells you what hardware you have, whilst google will tell you where that device is logically within your fs12:11
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sirukinheh12:14
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oshapollo2011: Sorry. I was away. sirukin seems to have answered though.12:16
sirukinalbeit a tad impolitely.12:16
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arthurbbn12:17
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nxv__i a pII allready 686? or 586 or neither?12:43
KaiL_68612:43
gdh68612:43
nxv__i=is12:44
nxv__thx12:44
sirukinI have a Katmai12:44
sirukinwhat is it?12:44
liz4rduname -a12:44
gdhAnything P2 or newer and any Celeron is 68612:44
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liz4rdi have an amd k6 2 and its only 58612:45
gdhIs it made by Intel?12:45
liz4rdAMD12:45
liz4rd:P12:45
sirukinit's made by *aghast* amd12:45
gdh:)12:45
KaiL_K6-2 is one of the last 586, yes12:45
sirukinkeyword = "an amd k6 2"12:46
gdhI .. believe that was my point...12:46
sirukinmaybe12:46
sirukinI was born without a sense of humour.12:46
sirukinI sorry12:47
liz4rd:P12:47
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Tm_Thullo kkathman 12:58
kkathmanhey there Tm_T :)12:59
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_toniyo man!01:17
gdhmm?01:17
_tonisomebody here?!01:17
kkathmanuhm yes01:18
kkathmanhey gdh :)01:18
_toniwhat happend?! nobody talk here?01:18
_tonipeut-tre en franais?!01:19
gdhc'est n'est pas une chaine francais :)01:19
_tonipu darsi in italiano?!01:19
gdhmais, c'est n'est aussi pas une magnetephone jaune.01:20
gdhand that's about as far as my French goes.01:20
Tm_Tvittu puhukaa suomea, perkele01:20
_tonihey gdh :-) i'm newbie (damned!) i just discover right now! Sorry!01:20
gdhc'est nes pas une probleme01:22
gdh.. my last French lesson was, er, 12 years ago.. you can probably tell :)01:22
_tonino problem, i can understand with some computerized translator :-)01:25
_toniwell! what about this topic?01:25
Tm_Tpersehn se01:28
_tonisomebody can helpme to configure xdosemu under kubuntu?01:28
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pobstilhullo01:36
pobstiltransgress01:38
gdhbelgium01:39
pobstilNEW ZEALAND01:39
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gdhYes, I see the domain name :)01:40
amuplanet earth ;) 01:40
gdhI'm in the UK, I just felt like saying 'belgium'01:40
pobstilwhat domain name?01:40
pobstilhaha01:40
gdh"Finally, as for the latest rumor (#398) that the Pixies are going to reunite for a tour (as mentioned by FB on London's Xfm radio)... here's the lowdown from the inside : The Pixies will get together later this year to record a new double album of Latvian children's lullabies, after which they will tour each and every country whose name begins with the letters Cz."01:40
gdhoops01:40
gdhfuqn xlipboard / selection01:40
amupobstil: you'll find it in my details *eg* 01:41
pobstiloh yeah :p01:41
pobstilsoo00o what been happening in kubuntu-land?01:42
gdhlots of people asking what the root password is, mostly.01:42
pobstilhaha01:43
gdhmm.01:43
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gdhthe release, probably :)02:06
gdhno last-minute excitement02:06
gdhtry again in August/September :)02:07
pobstilhaha02:07
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wulfepupMy poor laptop  I tried install Kubuntu Hoary (AMD64) and all I get now is "Operating System Missing"02:13
wulfepupDoes anyone know what might have happened?02:14
amuprobably your mbr isnt correctly written 02:15
wulfepup@!$&*!@$!02:16
wulfepup*sigh*02:16
wulfepupI'm trying for a dual boot on a pre-existing WinXP system...02:17
wulfepupI was following along in the outline provided in teh Wiki .. 02:17
amucheck your bios setting, if it's possible to modify your mbr, yes there's a option 02:18
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amudual boot on a pre-existing WinXP system works out of the box, install 02:18
wulfepupthe bios only ask to specify devices.. no mbr no partitions...02:19
amuthere must be a virus option 02:19
wulfepupI'll double check..  but I don't recall seeing one.02:20
gdhamu: hm, I put the hoary install CD on my new dell desktop at work this week - after it'd told me to remove the CD-ROm and that it was going to reboot - it then went on to ask what priority debconf messages I wanted to see.. and then rebooted before I could choose... does that sound at all familiar?02:21
amuthe other possibility where an installtion could fail is, if you use a sata-raid 02:21
gdhquite cool - preinstalled with XP Home and never actually booted XP once :)02:21
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wulfepupno raid ..  just one IDE HD02:22
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gdhwulfepup: the 'virus option' is usually in the same screen as the enable level 2 cache  / ECC memory checking... on award bios it's in the top left of teh screen02:23
wulfepuppobstil if I wasn't so durn frustrated right now.. I'd have a snappy come back.. but I don't so forgive me.02:23
amugdh: sorry didnt understand 02:23
gdhamu: No worries - the install worked fine - was just a bit surprising to see that =)02:23
pobstilmk :p02:23
wulfepupPhoenixBIOS  (HP Pavilion laptop)02:24
gdhUrg, who knows, then? :)02:24
wulfepupLang, time, date, parallel mode, secs to press F10 (to get to bios), passwords (3 types), HDD test (quick and slow) that's all that is configurable.02:25
gdhah nice and sanitised... :|02:25
amugdh: yep, ist just works, 2 possibiies where an installation could fails, is a.) virus peotection by bios settings, b.) unsuported unknown very new raid-systems, scsi 02:25
wulfepup*sigh* yeah02:25
amus/ist/it02:26
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wulfepupshould I go ahead an take my chances on letting Grub go to MBR instead of (hd0,1)?02:26
gdhwulfepup: It's easy to add Windows' partition to grub's config if it gets it wrong02:27
wulfepup((why am I asking L:inux folk if I should take a chance on killing windows..LOL)02:27
gdh.. and if all goes wrong02:27
gdhyou can boot with a DOS 6.22 floppy and run FDISK /MBR02:27
gdhso, yes it's safe to try :)02:27
wulfepupassuming I had A) a dos 6.22 floppy and B) a floppy drive..LOL02:28
amuwulfepup: in 95% of all cases, you install to mbr02:28
gdhhaha :)02:28
gdhwulfepup: there are doubtless bootable CD-R images you could use :)02:28
wulfepupI'm tempted to run expert instead of linux....02:29
gdhor make your own from a downloaded floppy image off the 'net02:29
wulfepuptrue 'nuff02:29
gdhNero will let you create bootable CDs02:29
gdhetc.02:29
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sounixhi02:34
sounixcomo instalo ubuntu desde disketes02:35
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wulfepupok in the Partition disks section.... if it has "#2 primary 4.5GB [lightning bolt]  [skull]  ext3 /" as the line for my Kubuntu  install .. is everything looking ok?02:38
wulfepupI know the [skull]  is for format... what is teh lightning bolt?02:39
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wulfepupGrub worked on mbr ... and I successfully got into Windows as a test.02:54
wulfepupAhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh02:54
wulfepuprelief02:54
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pobstilmoo03:14
monchyoom03:16
pobstillol moo backwards03:16
monchy:)03:16
Mezhey03:17
Mezis anyone in here using breezy?03:17
thoreauputicMez: only crazy people ;)03:18
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Mezdamnit03:18
MezI need a crazy person03:18
pobstilI resent that, some people here are crazy and aren't using breezy03:18
Mezto test the konversation 0.18 package 03:18
thoreauputicMez: are you the Newb Gods person trying to organise mentors etc?03:19
MezI'm one of the nweb gods organisers03:19
Mezbut we havent got any plans for mentors (not thats been discussed to my knowledge)03:19
Mezbut I'm looking for volunteers to join the group03:19
thoreauputicMez: right - what's the best way to get started? email you?03:20
Mezah you wanna join03:20
Mezyeah email me your contact details03:20
MezI'll add you onto the lsit03:20
Mezand the mailing list03:20
thoreauputicOK03:20
Mezand idel in #ubuntu-newbie03:20
thoreauputicright - I was there a few days ago but you weren't around03:21
thoreauputicI'll rejoin now03:21
Mezlol :d03:21
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pobstilDON"T YOU LOVE ME ANYMORE!!!!?????!?!?!?03:37
gdhWell.. you didn't return our calls, or answer our letters... 03:37
gdhso.. I'm afraid we found someone else...03:37
pobstilNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO03:37
gdhLife's a bitch, money's a drag, and then you die =)03:38
gdh... and now here's Tom with the weather.03:38
pobstillol03:38
pobstilwhere?03:40
gdhonly in your mind- if you want to know the weather, look outside.03:40
gdhYep, tonight there will be lots of weather. Dark weather, but weather nonetheless.03:40
pobstillooking prety crappy tom03:40
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penguinboyGood Evening, Guys!03:47
pobstilguten taag03:47
penguinboyGuten Tag, Mein Herr03:48
pobstilsay what?03:48
penguinboyGood Evening, My Master03:48
pobstilhaha03:48
penguinboylol03:48
penguinboyor is it Meina Dama03:49
penguinboymy lady?03:49
pobstilnah I'm a dude dude03:51
penguinboyroom sure is quiet tonight03:52
pobstilvery03:52
penguinboyhow long have you used Kubuntu?03:52
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penguinboyWelcome N17R0 03:53
pobstilI don't use kubuntu. my kubuntu killed itself03:53
N17R0oi03:53
penguinboywhat distro do you use then03:53
pobstilziggy03:53
pobstilI use yoper at the momeny03:53
penguinboynever heard of Ziggy03:53
pobstilgetting slackware though03:53
penguinboyYoper I have heard of03:53
pobstilziggy doesn't exist03:53
penguinboyDon;t you have to compile everything in Slack????03:54
pobstilnah03:54
pobstiltzg packages03:54
penguinboyIs there anything like APT or YAST or RPM in Slack?03:54
pobstiltheres tzg packages, and you just issue a command which I forget at the moment. like $thiscommand package.tzg03:55
pobstiland it installs03:55
penguinboykewl03:55
penguinboyso you do not have to comoile liek normal tarballs?03:56
penguinboylike03:56
pobstilnah but you can if you want03:56
penguinboyI know Slack is popular03:56
pobstilhaha I don't even have slackware yet :p03:56
penguinboywith a lot of people03:56
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pobstilyeah. the guy who made the linux kernel made slackware..03:57
penguinboyTorvalds actually built the distro...perhaps I should give it a whirl03:57
pobstilmaaybee03:58
pobstilyoper is very fast, but 2.1 is buggy. 2.2 will be heaps beter03:59
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penguinboyWelcome FireEgl 03:59
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pobstilFireEg1 **04:00
pobstilinstallpkg is the command install a package haha04:02
penguinboymakes sense04:02
pobstilyeah:p04:02
Mezis it wrong of me to make the breezy install for konversation have #kubuntu as the default channel to join04:02
penguinboynot at all04:03
penguinboyI mean yes04:03
penguinboydo not install breezy04:03
pobstilhe's doing testing or something04:04
Mezpenguinboy, I'm builidn ghte konversation-0.18-1ubuntu1 pacakge04:04
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penguinboyHey sproingie !!!!!!!!!!!!!!04:04
pobstillol don't get too excited04:04
MezI'm recompiling it to make it join here instead of #kde by default (dam it being a sponsored thing)04:04
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penguinboyWelcome kakalto 04:05
kakaltoyo04:05
pobstilhaha fresh04:05
kakaltofresh?04:05
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pobstilaww you left slackware04:08
penguinboythere were 230 peple in there....whata crowd04:08
pobstilcome again:p04:08
Mez+++ konversation-0.18/konversation/src/preferences.cpp04:08
Mez@@ -68,7 +68,7 @@04:08
Mez   serverGroup->addServer(server);04:08
Mez   serverGroup->setIdentityId(identity->id());04:08
Mez   Konversation::ChannelSettings channel;04:08
Mez-  channel.setName("#kde");04:08
Mez+  channel.setName("#kubuntu");04:08
Mez   serverGroup->addChannel(channel);04:08
Mez   m_serverGroupList.append(serverGroup);04:09
Mez04:09
pobstilnot cool04:09
Chislonim getting increasingly tired of linux... for all the hype, it doesnt work very well in my experience... 2 things, 1 is tha ti have set in KDE components firefox to be the default browser, yet when i click open in browser, it opens in konqueror, 2, when i click mozilla, open in existing, it opens in a new window.. not the existing one...04:09
monchyyou should give konqueror a chance, it's not a bad little browser ;)04:10
penguinboyI started with Red Hat 7.0...then went to Red Hat 9.0...Mandrake 9.1....SuSE 9.0a.....Fedora Core 1....Fedora Core 2...Ubuntu Warty....Ubuntu Hoary....and now Kubuntu Hoary!04:10
Chislonthats not the point, the point is linux isnt doing what its supposed to... and thats getting annoying04:10
Chisloni like firefox alot :)04:10
Chislonatleast on windows04:10
Chislonlol04:10
penguinboyI think Linux works amazingly04:10
Chislonwell not nearly as well as windows so far... im hoping that will change, but im getting tired04:11
Mezmonchy - konq is annoying04:11
Chislon(in my experience)04:11
kakaltoheheh. I get tired of windows..04:11
kakaltotoo slow04:11
kakaltotoo unstable04:11
pobstilwindows is just crapy04:11
penguinboyWindoze has way too many problems04:11
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Chislonas much as people talk about how bad windows is, i rarely have hte problems that people talk about, and i dont see any of the greatness of linux yet, as it doesnt work...04:11
penguinboyand Windo$e costs way too much!04:12
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Chislonthe only reason my desktop has crashed recently is because the pos and the mobo arnt compatible04:12
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pobstilaww04:12
Chisloni agree with linux's pricetag tho, and im hoping to learn how to use it, but i keep on trying when im tired and that doesnt help lol04:12
penguinboypobstil: are you in New Zealand????04:13
pobstilyesm04:13
penguinboykewl04:13
penguinboybeautiful country04:13
penguinboygreat backdrop for LOTR04:13
pobstilhaha yeah04:13
Chislonlol04:13
penguinboywhat is the capitol of New Zealand?04:14
pobstilpenguinboy sounds like the name of a superhero04:14
pobstilwellington04:14
penguinboyThe Amazing Adventures of PenguinBoy....www.penguinboy.us04:14
pobstiljoe missionary?04:16
kakaltopobstil, where in NZ are you?04:17
penguinboya blogger.....who is a missionary somewhere in Asia04:17
pobstilwhy? :p04:17
penguinboywe wanna come for a visit04:17
Chislonoh and i just realized something04:17
kakaltojust curious :P04:17
pobstilo0o I live on 72 evergreen terrace04:17
penguinboyLOL04:17
kakaltolol, what04:17
penguinboyLOL04:17
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Chislonperhaps its jsut that i already know what things windows will mess up, so that its just not  a surprise when it does ;) but i dont really have many problems with it04:18
penguinboyWelceom Dennis!04:18
kakaltoauckland?04:18
pobstilyeah04:18
Chislonwiht linux i dont knwo whats going to mess up, so when it does its more inconvienient04:18
kakaltohehe04:18
penguinboy72 Evergreen terrace, Auckland, New Zealand04:18
pobstilyeah04:18
penguinboyI am booking my flight as we speak04:18
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pobstilhaha success04:19
penguinboyat what?04:19
pobstil72 evergreen terrace. isn't that the simpsons address?04:20
penguinboylol04:20
penguinboydo they live in Auckland?04:20
pobstillol04:20
pobstilI just got asked what I forgot... I said I don't remember04:21
penguinboylol04:21
penguinboythe Simpsons do live at 72 Evergreen Terrace!04:21
pobstilyeah04:22
pobstilI live with the simpsons ??? :o04:22
penguinboykewl04:22
pobstillol04:22
penguinboyThey do a good job of maskign their New Zealand accents on the TV04:22
pobstilwho do04:23
pobstiloh yeah haha04:23
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penguinboyWelceom Kamping_Kaiser 04:23
pobstilare you german?04:24
penguinboyno04:24
Kamping_Kaiserhi penguinboy :)04:24
penguinboynein04:24
Kamping_Kaiserheh04:24
pobstilno kamping_kaiser, are you german?04:24
penguinboyDas es Deutsch?04:25
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penguinboyWB Mez04:25
Kamping_Kaiserpobstil, father is, have been there, but dont know much german04:25
mezty04:25
penguinboyyw04:25
meztyped command thinking it was mIRC04:25
mez:(04:25
penguinboylol04:25
Kamping_Kaiserlol04:26
penguinboymez is British?04:26
Kamping_Kaiserhes in brittain04:27
mezyes I am04:27
mezwhy are you asking/how do you know04:28
penguinboyI would love to visit Scotland and Wales and Ireland04:28
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penguinboyi can tel from your ip04:28
penguinboytell04:28
mezah04:28
mezkk04:28
penguinboywas New Zeland once n the British Empire?04:29
Kamping_Kaiseryes04:29
Kamping_Kaiserand AUS04:29
dstillzBut it's been independent for 98 years.04:30
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penguinboylol04:30
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kakalto:P04:30
Kamping_Kaiserdstillz, longer04:30
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Kamping_Kaiser:P04:30
penguinboyand the band played Waltzing Matilda04:30
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kakaltothat's au, isn't it?04:30
penguinboywb _pobstil 04:31
_pobstilwb?04:31
Kamping_Kaiseryep04:31
penguinboyyes kakalto 04:31
dstillzHmm.04:31
penguinboyhttp://www.google.com/linux04:31
dstillzI can't find any pre-1906 stuff.04:31
penguinboyoops04:31
_pobstilpenguinboy I love you04:31
penguinboyLOL04:31
penguinboyI LOVE YOU 204:31
penguinboylol04:31
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_pobstil:p04:31
=== penguinboy kisses _pobstil
penguinboylol04:31
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_pobstilwoo!04:32
kakaltohow can I force unmount a cd?04:32
kakaltoumount -f ?04:32
Kamping_Kaiserkakalto, is it in use?04:32
kakaltowell, I'm trying to install a game, and the konsole says "it's in use", but the setup for the game wants a different cd04:33
_pobstilwhere are you from penguinboy04:33
kakaltoit's a 2cd game04:33
penguinboyKentucky USA04:33
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Mestapheles"eject -f" ?04:33
_pobstilgood chicken?04:33
_pobstil:D04:33
kakaltoMestapheles, is it?04:34
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penguinboy<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">04:34
penguinboy<body><BLOCKQUOTE><PRE>ps waxf04:34
penguinboy</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><BLOCKQUOTE>04:34
penguinboyto see the upper program that is being called below "mount <TT>/cdrom</TT>", and04:34
penguinboydo:04:34
penguinboy</BLOCKQUOTE>04:34
penguinboy<BLOCKQUOTE><PRE>kill -9 $(pidof &lt;program_name&gt;)04:34
penguinboy</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><BLOCKQUOTE>04:34
dstillzI can't get kubuntu to install.04:34
kakaltoMestapheles, that tells "eject -floppy"04:34
penguinboy(rude, I know). Then you'll be able to do:04:34
penguinboy</BLOCKQUOTE>04:34
penguinboy<BLOCKQUOTE><PRE>umount /cdrom</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE></body>04:34
penguinboyoops04:34
Kamping_Kaiserpenguinboy, yeh04:35
Mestaphelesno I don't see a -f option.  I d recall having to pass "eject" as a super user04:35
_pobstil"Microsoft isn't evil, they just make really crappy operating systems." - Linus Torvalds 04:36
kakaltowhen I type "eject -h", it comes up with the Help.04:36
penguinboylol _pobstil 04:36
Kamping_Kaiseriirc theres an option to unmount a cd, and when the system realises its gone, it unmounts it 04:36
kakaltothere, it says "eject -f" will eject floppy04:36
penguinboytype ps waxf04:36
Mestaphelesactually there is a -f option but it is something else04:36
kakaltoMestapheles, that's exactly what I'm trying to tell you04:37
Mestaphelessure04:37
_pobstilcan someone kill pobstil for me? it's me and it's just lost because xchat is messed up04:37
Kamping_Kaiseritll die soon04:37
_pobstilslooooowly04:38
thoreauputic_pobstil: /msg nickserv ghost pobstil <password>04:38
_pobstilwhats that do04:38
thoreauputicit kills pobstil :)04:38
_pobstilI don't have a password..04:38
_pobstilI'm not registered04:38
thoreauputicyou're out of luck then04:38
thoreauputicboo hiss04:39
_pobstilhow do register your nick?04:39
monchyregister fast before someone steals your nick04:39
penguinboy<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">04:39
penguinboy<body>kill -9 $(pidof &lt;program_name&gt;)</body>04:39
thoreauputic_pobstil: /msg nickserv help04:39
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penguinboyMestapheles: do this....type ps waxf to see the upper program that is being called below "mount /cdrom", and do kill -9 $(pidof <program_name>...then you will be abloe to do unmount /cdrom04:40
penguinboy_pobstil: I think you go /NickServ HELP register04:41
_pobstildone :D04:41
penguinboyk04:41
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penguinboyThe Amazing Adventures of PenguinBoy...www.penguinboy.us04:43
_pobstilpobstil.homelinux.net04:43
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pobstilwoo! my name is registered04:44
monchyThe Amazing Adventures of Orneryboy... www.orneryboy.com04:44
pobstilpenguinboy christian?04:44
penguinboysi04:45
pobstilsi?04:45
penguinboyyes04:45
pobstiloo si04:45
pobstilme too04:45
penguinboyGreat!04:45
pobstil:D04:45
penguinboypobstil: has pics on his site04:46
pobstilover 4000...04:46
penguinboywher's one of you?04:47
pobstilI'll find one04:47
penguinboyk04:47
pobstilhttp://pobstil.homelinux.net/LukesPics/05.06.03%20JV's%20Party/100_0676.jpg04:48
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penguinboyWelcome claydoh 04:49
claydohty04:49
penguinboythis sure is a slow download04:49
pobstilyes, I only have dial up haha04:49
pobstilsorry04:50
penguinboyso you are hosting these pics on your dialup04:50
monchyouchy dial up lol04:50
pobstilyeah04:50
pobstil:p04:50
penguinboynice pic04:50
penguinboyhandsome young man04:50
penguinboywhat does pobstil mean04:51
pobstilhave you got kubuntu or ubuntu penguinboy04:52
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penguinboykubuntu....I am niot partial to Gnome04:52
penguinboyI love KDE04:53
pobstilmeeeeeeee tooooooo04:53
monchycan't wait for kde 4 codename 'plasma'04:53
penguinboyme either04:54
pobstilhow far away is that04:54
monchynot sure, although i'm 100% positive it won't be ready for kubuntu breezy04:54
pobstiloctober 14th 200604:56
monchylol i think they were jerkin your chain04:56
penguinboylol04:56
pobstilyeah :p04:56
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penguinboyhttp://aseigo.bddf.ca/?pID=122104:58
penguinboyinterview transcript with KDE developer04:59
penguinboyAaron J. Seigo04:59
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penguinboyWelcoem Aluno!!!!!!!!!!!!04:59
_aluno_wat da fuck05:00
penguinboyno need for vulgarity05:01
_aluno_ts my first time on this chat05:01
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penguinboywelcoem!05:02
penguinboygood to have you _aluno_05:02
_aluno_greetings from Portugal motherfuckers :)05:02
penguinboyvulgarity is the mark of a person of little intelligence05:02
pobstilhaha05:02
_aluno_go fuck yourself penguinboy05:03
monchy:o05:03
_aluno_and shut up05:03
pobstilwhy are you so mean :(05:03
Kamping_Kaisertrolling today _aluno_ ?05:03
penguinboyyou like that word don;t you.....do you know you know any words consisting of more than one syllable?05:03
monchyhe been here before kaiser?05:04
Kamping_Kaisernot sure05:04
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pobstilhe's just a troll ignore him05:04
_aluno_I m not a fucking American or a British asshole....05:04
penguinboywelcome back N17R0 05:04
N17R0ty05:04
penguinboyfor that we are thankful05:04
pobstilso where are you from _aluno_05:05
monchyi don't mind the brits actually05:05
monchysome hot women over there05:05
penguinboywe would not want someone of your obvious low intelligence and poor grammar skills in America05:05
EvanCarrolleww brits..05:05
_aluno_ im not a fucking fascist...05:05
monchyno, your just an idiot05:06
penguinboyare you a regular fascist then?05:06
_aluno_like your daddy05:06
_aluno_=)05:06
Kamping_Kaiserhis connections from portugal i think05:06
_aluno_yeah idiot05:06
_aluno_Portugal05:06
thoreauputic_aluno_: your political leanings aside, your vocabulary is very limited05:06
penguinboyare all Portugese or such low intelligence or are you the exception?05:06
Kamping_Kaiserno loss05:08
penguinboyYEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!05:08
monchylol05:08
monchywhat a tool05:08
thoreauputicwell, what a pleasnt interlude in the day....05:08
penguinboylol05:08
penguinboylol05:08
penguinboyhe has left the entire server05:09
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monchyaw05:09
monchylook what you did penguinboy, you jinxed us all :p05:09
Kamping_Kaiserlol05:09
penguinboylol05:09
penguinboylol05:09
penguinboylo05:09
alunoso do  you like the little Bush cock, no ?05:10
penguinboyoh boy...he learned another word05:11
Kamping_Kaiser2 more wasnt it?05:11
penguinboylol05:11
penguinboyand YES....I do like President Bush05:11
monchywhat?!05:11
Chislonhow can i get more hten one sound to work in linux like does on windows? like i cant have to things that make sounds p at once with boht making sounds if this makes sense05:12
penguinboylol05:12
alunoyeah yeah I understand your stupid language... 05:12
alunoand you ?05:12
alunosabem portugues meus filhos da puta abrunhos05:12
penguinboynow now05:12
alunoou preferem aprender enkuanto fodo a vossas maes e irmas05:12
alunopreferem assim nao 05:13
aluno:)05:13
penguinboysuch language05:13
Kamping_Kaiser*tuts*05:13
alunotanbien puedo hablar en espaol05:14
alunome he comido el chocho a tu madre penguinboy05:14
alunohaha05:14
alunostupid dumbs....05:14
monchyhey aluno, how old are you?05:14
penguinboy505:15
Chisloni already fixed linux to make it work with sounds in flash, and it was like 5 min ago, now its not... why?05:15
alunonobody  is talking to you...asshole05:15
monchybut i'm talking to you jerky05:15
monchyso stop being an ass clown and answer my question05:15
alunoI'am the necessary age to be your daddy...05:16
thoreauputicinteresting psychological study for some student: why do people use IRC to project their own problems onto others?05:16
Kamping_Kaiserheh05:16
penguinboyVoc tem tais inteligncia pequena e gramtica pobre05:17
Mezthoreauputic, isnt that what we're here for? to solve other peoples problems?05:17
monchykubuntu problems, not mental problems05:17
penguinboylol05:17
thoreauputicMez: I was referring to psychological projection05:17
alunopenguinboy...is that a copy paste of a brasilian web ?05:17
Mez:P05:17
alunofucking dumb05:17
alunohahah05:17
Mezthoreauputic, I was making a crap joke05:17
thoreauputic;-)05:17
penguinboyno05:18
monchyany luck with the konversation problem Mez?05:18
alunoLot's of NAZis here....05:19
Kamping_Kaiser....05:19
pobstileveryone ping him hardout05:19
penguinboyEntiendo un poco espanol!~05:19
Mezrecompiling it monchy05:19
Mezwithout the change05:19
thoreauputiche hasn't heard of Godwin's Law, apparently...05:19
alunopero yo lo entiendo por completo... 05:19
Mezto see if it's this random tester's problem05:19
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alunopenguinboy . Am I the dumb ?... three languages...05:21
penguinboyentonces soy tan orgulloso de usted05:21
alunoand you ...one ?...05:21
alunoits like that... 05:21
thoreauputicaluno: ni sa moce, boce05:21
thoreauputicadieu, mon pauvre05:22
pobstilhaha05:22
penguinboylol05:22
pobstilyou are a nazi aluno05:22
alunowhat the fuck....give up...you suck...05:22
penguinboyAluno is a Nazi05:22
Kamping_Kaiseralunos not smart enough05:22
alunothis is no spanish...is shit...05:22
alunolol05:23
penguinboyAluno es el Nazi05:23
Kamping_Kaiserthe Nazis were cultured ppl05:23
alunothoreauputic  pd d mrde ...05:23
alunopobstil... and you the nigger...05:23
monchyhey now05:23
pobstilI'm no nigga05:23
thoreauputicOK this is getting unfunny05:23
penguinboyHEY05:23
alunowell...so do you are a fag05:23
penguinboystopit at once05:23
pobstilwhat does that mean? do you are a fag? :p05:24
alunoes uma filha da puta paneleira...05:24
thoreauputicOk ops any moment05:24
alunopobstil shut up queer05:25
Mezthoreauputic, noones online who has ops in here05:25
thoreauputicMez: I've let it drop in #ubuntu-devel05:25
alunothoreauputic who's your daddy ?...05:25
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penguinboyAluno e um homosexual e amores a vestir se acima como uma menina pequena.05:26
Mezyeah05:26
Mezbut the access list05:26
Mezonly lsits a few people05:26
Mezand none of them are on line05:26
Mez-ChanServ- -- Access List for [#kubuntu]  --05:27
Mez-ChanServ- Num Level Hostmask                            Time since last use05:27
Mez-ChanServ- --- ----- --------                            -------------------05:27
Mez-ChanServ- 1   29    amu                                 17h 39m 14s05:27
Mez-ChanServ- 2   29    haggai                              4d 11h 22m 34s05:27
_aluno_penguinboy dont try man...you suck... this is no portuguese... is a shit like you05:27
Mez-ChanServ- 3   30    fooishbar                           3d 1h 42m 58s05:27
Mez-ChanServ- 4   29    Riddell                             17h 39m 14s05:27
thoreauputicMez: bob2 is online, it seems05:27
Mezbob2 doesnt have access ehre05:27
thoreauputicOK05:27
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penguinboy_aluno I have just put you on ignore...sorry!  Goodbye!05:28
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monchywoohoo05:28
penguinboyyes05:28
Mezok05:28
_aluno_hahahahahahaha05:28
=== Mez doesnt know who daniels is
Mezbhut nice to see you05:28
danielstem words or less, what's the problem?05:28
penguinboyhe is an op05:28
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=== _aluno_ was kicked off #kubuntu by daniels (daniels)
penguinboy_aluno_ is using profanity05:28
monchyawesome, thanks daniels05:28
penguinboythanks05:29
danielsnp05:29
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monchyhe'll probably go to #ubuntu now lol05:29
penguinboylol05:29
Kamping_KaiserI'm ready05:29
penguinboyKK are you an op?05:30
Kamping_Kaisernope.05:30
Kamping_Kaiserbut I'm in there, so i ahve to put up with him05:30
penguinboywhois says he is online but not in a room05:31
penguinboyno he is gone05:31
penguinboynow05:31
Meznight all05:31
MezI fixed that konv pronblem05:31
penguinboynight Mez!!!!!!!!!!!!105:31
monchynight Mez, thanks for backporting konv05:31
Kamping_Kaiserhes ofline05:31
Mezmonchy05:31
Mezbackported and updated fopr breezy05:32
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monchynice05:32
Kamping_Kaisermine still points at ubuntuforusm :S05:32
penguinboydoes anyone know when stable Breezy is being released?05:33
monchymm banana bread05:33
monchyoctoberish i think05:33
penguinboygreat05:33
Kamping_Kaiser5.1005:33
Kamping_Kaiser;)05:34
monchy6.0 after that right05:34
penguinboyWarty...Hoary...Breezy05:34
Kamping_Kaiserwork with the numbers your given05:34
Kamping_Kaiserno, 6.405:34
Mezpenguinboy, http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseSchedule05:34
Shuddertrix6.4 after that.05:34
Kamping_Kaiserits year.month05:34
penguinboythanks Mez05:34
ShuddertrixThen 6.10, 7.4, 7.10, 8.4, 8.10, 9.4, 9.10, 10.4, 10.10, 11.4, 11.10, I think you get it.05:34
Kamping_Kaiserno, 6.4, 7.0, 7.6 etc05:35
monchywonder what names will be next05:35
penguinboyyes05:35
ShuddertrixI just went in a pattern, being tired in all.05:35
penguinboyI would like Penguiny05:35
Kamping_Kaiserperky penguin was up for debate05:35
monchylol i like it05:35
penguinboyWarty...Hoary...breezy...Penguiny05:35
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monchyflamy flamingo05:36
monchyo.O05:36
Kamping_Kaiserthere was a thread on the forums to discuss things05:36
penguinboyWarty Warthog...Hoary Hedgehog...Breezy what?05:36
monchybadger05:36
ShuddertrixBadger05:36
Kamping_KaiserBadger05:36
Kamping_Kaiserlol05:36
penguinboyk05:36
Kamping_Kaiserget the idea ;P05:36
penguinboythen definitely...Perky Penguin should follow05:37
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theshoequick question: just installed kubuntu and then installed the fglrx drivers for my 9200, now i cant change refresh rate - how do i do this05:40
penguinboyAiry Aardvark...Breezy Badger...Chillin' Chihuahua...Dancing Doe...Effervecing Elephant....Fancyfooting Frog....Grooming Gorilla...Hoary Hedgehog...Illuminting Iguana.....Jumping Jackrabit....05:40
monchythe chihuahua one is good05:41
theshoein the control panel it says :"Your X server does not support resizing and rotating the display. please update..."05:41
Kamping_Kaiser*subject to change without notice ;)05:41
thoreauputicWobbly Wallaby...05:41
penguinboyi like that one05:41
monchysend it in ;p05:41
penguinboynight guys!05:43
monchynight pb05:43
Kamping_Kaiserok. night mate05:43
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pobstila hoy hoy05:51
monchyyoh yoh a05:51
pobstillol05:51
monchywoohoo ET in 30 minutes05:52
pobstilet?05:52
monchyenemy territory05:52
pobstilalrighty05:52
monchyfree game05:52
pobstilwoo05:52
monchyfps, based on RTCW (return to castle wolfenstein)05:53
pobstilok05:53
monchyno idea what it is?05:54
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pobstilnope05:54
Octanedoes the kernel source come iwht kubuntu 5.0305:54
Octane*405:54
pobstilwhere did penguinboy go05:54
monchyhttp://www.planetwolfenstein.com/enemyterritory/ there you go05:55
monchy& he went to sleep05:55
pobstilmk05:55
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Octanei dont have access to the internet on my kubuntu box yet and i wanna put the kernel source on it05:56
Octanewhat exactly should i get05:56
Octanethe box is a kubuntu 5.04 box05:56
Octaneuname -a says 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic05:57
pobstilpinging is phun05:58
pobstilwhy not put internet on your kubuntu box while you put the sources on05:59
Octanebecause i need the kernel soruce in order to compile the drivers for my NIC05:59
pobstildoes kubuntu pick them up with the kernel it has05:59
Octaneno it does not06:00
Octanei need the kernel source in order to compile the drivers06:00
Octaneonce i get the kernel soruce where do i put it? in /usr/src ?06:05
thoreauputicOctane: it's unusual for a nic to be unsupported - are you sure it isn't available in the default kernel , so you could just modprobe it?06:07
Octaneim telling you its unsupported06:08
Octaneits a brand new mobo06:08
thoreauputicOctane: OK - i believe you - just asking06:08
Octanelspci says Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd: Unknown device06:08
Octanethoreauputic i know :)06:08
Octaneonce i get the source though what do i do06:10
Octaneexcuse the ignorance06:10
Octaneim used to packages :)06:10
thoreauputicso am I ;) Possibly, though, the headers would be enough?06:10
Octanethoreauputic its okay i got the src06:12
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Octanehow the hell is gcc not found06:21
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scottcan anyone tell me how to change the refresh rate of my monitor? just installed kubuntu and the fglrx drivers and now i cant change refresh rate06:23
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Octaneits in your xorg.conf file06:23
Octanewhy the hell is gcc not installed06:24
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scotti have tried that - in control panel it says something about not being able to resize and rotate and haveing to upgrade06:25
scottit says please update to 4.306:25
scotthow do i do that?06:26
Kamping_Kaiseroctane, by default?06:26
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scottif no one can help me with this problem, can anyonme tell me how i install mplayer06:28
monchyanyway i can check to see what my current refresh rate is06:28
hussammonchy: screen refresh rate? right click on desktop >configure desktop >Display06:30
monchyhm, says 75 but it doesn't feel like 75 if that makes sense06:31
abisenwhere do i report bugs in kubuntu ?? or apps that come with kubuntu ... for example kaffeine even after quitting keeps running i can see it in the process table taking away all my CPU cycle 06:31
abisenit is very reproduceble problem .. 06:31
hussamabise: report bugs here https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com06:33
hussamabisen*06:33
abisenthanks06:34
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pobstilhey, with sftp, how do you put a folder, and all it's contents, including other folders07:20
madisonhi07:20
pobstilhi:)07:20
hussamdoes the firefox in backports-staging have the latest security fix regarding the frames?07:20
madisonhi pobstil how r u?/07:21
pobstilI'm alright thanks madison :) how are you?07:21
madisonim fine too07:21
madisonwhere r u from?07:22
pobstilnz07:22
pobstilyou?07:22
madisonindonesia07:22
madisonnice to know u07:22
pobstil:)07:22
madisonhows nz?07:23
pobstilbeautiful07:23
madisonyeah i know it amazing place to visit07:23
pobstilhave you been here>07:23
pobstil?07:24
madisonnope but heard it a lot07:24
pobstilok07:24
madisonabout maori?is that right?07:25
pobstiluh huh07:26
madisonnice introduction and culture07:27
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el_zor0has anyone here successfully build xdoom?08:39
el_zor0I'm trying to build ps doom08:39
el_zor0the old system admin tool based on the origonal doom where you run arround shooting processes to kill them on your box08:40
Kaiser_essenhahha08:46
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el_zor0I can't make the damn thing compile, the code is so old its tweaked for old 486 era asembler compilers and gcc can't build it08:47
Kaiser_essenlol. might look into that08:47
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el_zor0http://psdoom.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html08:50
el_zor0psdoom screenshots08:50
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pobstilgood evening09:00
randabishi09:01
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bigbill52ai have the correct ati drivers installed...glxgears works fine..gl screensavers in gnome work fine...however...when i bring up the control panel in either 3.4.0 or 3.4.1 and just touch a gl screensaver in the control panel...my machine locks up completely09:53
bigbill52ait is very consistent...happens every time..other screen savers work fine...just the gl ones lock my machine completely09:54
bigbill52atried the latest debian...with the appropriate ati driver...no problem09:55
bigbill52ahowever the latest debian doesnt have the unofficial guide for all the multimedia09:56
bigbill52aor all the extra resources...09:57
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tux0010hi everyone09:59
tux0010i tried installing kubuntu-desktop in ubuntu (amd 64)09:59
tux0010but it errored out saying "come packages could not be downloaded - md5 checksum error)09:59
tux0010any ideas how to fix this?09:59
bigbill52asome of the mirrors are experiencing problems10:01
xxenonKDE not responding when k3b is starting a record (10 seconds) and finalizing the disc (15 seconds)....someone else experienced that ?10:02
bigbill52atux look in your sources.list10:02
tux0010bigbill52a, opened it up10:03
tux0010bigbill52a, should i change something in it?10:03
bigbill52ado you have us?10:03
tux0010yes10:04
tux0010us.archive.ubutntu.....10:04
bigbill52ajust delete the two letters us in front of each entry...10:04
bigbill52aso it reads archive instead of us.archive10:05
bigbill52aand then save as,10:05
bigbill52aand then apt-get update10:05
bigbill52aand then try your install again10:05
tux0010bigbill52a, thanks...lemme give that a shot real qk10:06
bigbill52alet me know if it dont work..i had to do the same thing earlier10:06
bigbill52abrb10:07
bigbill52aback10:09
bigbill52avery quick smoke10:10
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tux0010bigbill52a, i think it worked10:10
tux0010lemme try and go into kde and see10:11
bigbill52abe sure to update first10:11
tux0010bigbill52a, done :)10:12
tux0010bigbill52a, worked like a charm :)10:12
tux0010you are a genius10:12
tux0010:)10:12
tux0010bigbill52a, i am going to log into kde full time10:12
tux0010brb10:12
bigbill52ai am just passing it on10:12
bigbill52asomeone helped me earlier10:12
bigbill52awarning....the ati drive in restricted modules is not an xorg driver..it is an xfree driver...10:13
bigbill52athe fglrxconfig produces an xfree.conf10:14
bigbill52anot an xorg.conf10:15
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bigbill52athat is using the sources.list from the guide10:15
bigbill52aif anyone needs help installing the ati driver just pm me10:16
LadyRoothi, can anyone tell me which packet do I need to apt-get install, to hace iso8859-2 fonts in Konqueror?10:18
LadyRoot*have10:19
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tux0010does anyone know how i can set the dpi ?10:33
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spiralhi11:10
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pobstilhullo all11:13
Kamping_Kaiserhi11:13
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pobstilanything been happening11:14
Kamping_Kaisernoope11:14
pobstilawwe11:14
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pobstiloh the deadness11:21
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blancohelp me please, im looking for a panish cannel, an i dont know how12:16
Kamping_Kaisernot sure if there is one12:16
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mindspintoast12:30
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jkeelhi all01:38
jkeelI'm trying to get the new automake to compile kde01:38
jkeelI've tried sudo update-alternatives --config automake01:38
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jkeelbut that says: 'No alternatives found for automake.'01:39
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spiraldoes anyone here know how I could have a french version of amaroK in hoary ?01:54
Octanecan someone please tell me why is it that gcc doesnt come with kubuntu 5.0401:55
spiralOctane: just do apt-get install gcc, it's on the cd...01:55
Octanei need gcc to compile something so that i could get my NIC working01:56
Octaneand i dont have a nic01:56
Octaneei mean a working one01:56
spiralOctane: it's on the cd, I told you01:56
Octanesince the drivers are so new01:56
Octanei see01:56
spiralit's just not installed by default, but you can install it01:56
spiralhappily for me too... I need to build my own kernel to have it working01:57
Octanehow the hell is gcc not installed by default01:57
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spiralOctane: a distribution for beginners... They consider a true beginner doesn't need gcc01:57
bigkeithhow do i install .deb01:58
Octanespiral whats the pkg name gcc?01:58
spiralOctane: yes, that's it01:58
spiralbigkeith: dpkg -i foo.deb01:59
Octaneyes thanks very much my friend01:59
bigkeiththanx01:59
Octaneomg new qt!01:59
spiralOctane: ;-)01:59
Octaneis that on the cd too?01:59
Tm_T=)02:00
Octanelet me apt-cache search02:00
Octanespiral waht do you suggest i do? i need several packages in order to make menuconfig for my linux source02:01
Kamping_Kaiserhey, Tm_T :)02:01
Tm_Thullo02:01
spiralOctane: something like libncurses-dev is also on CD I think02:01
Octanenope, only libncurses5 and libncursesw502:03
Octaneno dev pkg02:03
Octanei really need some help02:15
buzapt-get build-dep linux02:16
Octanei dont have access to the internet02:16
buzwell youre probably lost then02:17
Octanethats an understatement02:18
Octanei need to compile drivers for my nic02:19
Octanewhich need the linux sourc02:19
Octaneand i cant make menuconfig because i need a bunch of deps02:19
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othernoobwhich program do i need to extract files from an .ace archive ? unace doesn't want to extract them 02:33
buzthere's something wrong with the fonts after the kde3.4.1 updatre02:37
buzsome pdfs look whacked now02:37
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FiretechI like Linux... I just bought a DVD-burner and installed it. Drivers were included, but in Linux, it just worked :D03:21
othernoobdrivers for what ?03:23
Firetechdrivers for the DVD-burner03:23
FiretechDrivers for Windows, that is03:23
othernoobyes of course, but what would they do?03:23
FiretechI don't know, I don't use windows...03:23
othernoobheh..mmh.. never had a burner that needed drivers to burn..mmh..03:23
othernooband i've had a few ;)03:24
FiretechMy old CD-burner seems to be broken03:24
othernoobwhy03:24
FiretechIt started to cause "ATAPI reset time-out" in the syslog, and immideatly after that, the system just stalls.03:25
Firetechkernel panic I guess, but I never saw the message03:25
othernoobbut it burned fine?03:26
FiretechIt can be because I told it to use DMA, but it can also be because the IDE cable wasn't 100% correctly installed03:26
FiretechIt burned fine, yes03:26
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FiretechWhen I started to remove it, I saw that the IDE cable wasn't 100% into its slot on the Motherboard.03:27
Firetechanyway, Now I can burn _any_ format ;)03:27
othernooboooooh.. dvd-+r9/ram ?03:28
FiretechDVD+/-R/RW (including +R DL) and DVD-RAM03:28
Firetechand of course, CD-R/RW03:28
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Firetechtoo bad k3b doesn't rupport DL yet :P03:28
Firetech*support03:29
othernoobdl ? doublelayer ?03:29
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Firetechyup03:29
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othernoobah okay, thats what i meant with r9 ;)03:29
Firetechok03:29
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othernoobwhich burner is it ?03:30
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Firetechan LG GSA-4163RBB (RBB = Black, B = White). I got it for just 629 SEK, too (~82.5698 USD)03:32
othernoobsek= swedish kronen ?03:33
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Firetechyes03:36
othernoobyour burner sounds pretty good :)03:37
Firetechit surely does :)03:39
Firetechtoo bad I lost some of my savings for an Acer Ferrari...03:40
othernoobyea.. what are you gonna do with your old burner ? 03:41
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FiretechIt's lying on my bed, guess I'll stomp on it or something :P03:43
othernooblol i used to take em apart before buying a new one. checking the lense for nicotine (saved me some money and/or got me an extra burner) ;)03:44
FiretechI'll maybe take it apart and steal the laser thingie :)03:45
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theD3viLHas anyone seccfully installed and run shoutcast server? I have problems - it says its sleeping.03:46
othernoobwell if it needs some rest then let it sleep ;) 03:46
othernoobnaa, haven't. sorry ;)03:47
theD3viL:S03:47
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theD3viLwhat about mozilla-mplayer ?03:47
othernoobi dont use mozilla :/03:48
theD3viLyes, but with what do you playing internet radio (php) ??03:49
theD3viLhttp://www.radiohit.si/live/hitlive.php03:49
theD3viLwith.. ?03:49
FiretechtheD3viL: you don't play a php file03:50
Firetechphp is a scripting language mostly used for webpages03:50
theD3viLyes i know.. but i cant write different - my english is very bad =)03:50
theD3viLFiretech: can u test the link? pls.. i just wanna know with which programm03:51
Firetechmozilla-mplayer want's to play it for me03:51
theD3viLbut, it works ?03:51
FiretechI don't know03:51
theD3viL=/03:52
FiretechIt works03:52
theD3viLffs, how ?03:52
theD3viLwhy i cant play ?03:52
FiretechI did nothing03:53
theD3viLcan u give me your /etc/mplayerplugin.conf?03:53
FiretechI use firefox 1.0.4, but it's the official version (directly from mozilla.org)03:53
FiretechtheD3viL: I haven't touched that file03:54
theD3viLi did.. thats why :)03:54
Firetechso it should be the default03:54
theD3viLwait a sec03:54
Firetechjust uninstall mozilla-mplayer completely (purge if you use apt-get/dpkg) and then reinstall it, and the config file should be restored03:55
theD3viLaha03:56
theD3viLtnx03:56
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theD3viLinstalling...03:57
theD3viLStill doesnt work :(03:57
theD3viLuu..03:58
theD3viLworks .. but .. weard sound03:59
theD3viL..03:59
theD3viLand dont plays videos.. =/04:00
othernoobFiretech, would you know a program to extract ace files?04:00
othernoobunace doesnt work for me04:00
othernoobi get an "unknown compression method" error04:00
Firetechno, I don't04:01
Octanehow much swap should i do for 1gb of ram04:02
Octane2048?04:02
buzlikely you wont ever need it but 1gb should be plenty04:02
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_jrMez: dood04:03
Mezer04:03
Mezhello +jr04:03
Octanethanks buz04:03
Mez_jr *04:03
Mezwhoever you are04:03
Mezah04:03
Mezmr riddell04:03
Mez:P04:03
Mezlol04:03
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Mezctcp- _jr version04:04
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Funzocan i upgrade kde while its running? or do I need to exit kde first?04:31
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MezFunzo - I managed to upgrade while it was running - just make sure you restart X after (ctrl + alt +backspace)04:34
Funzook04:34
Mez;)04:34
Mezand if things crash04:34
Mezdont worry too much04:34
Funzohahaha04:34
Funzoi know04:34
Mezjsut wait until it's done, then restart X04:35
Mezthough to be fair04:35
Meznothign crashed for me04:35
Mezat all04:35
Funzohehe04:35
Funzook04:35
Funzogonna quit evrything first.... even tho i know it shudnt make a diff04:35
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penguinboyMorning, Guys!04:38
Mezafternoon04:39
penguinboyhey Mez!04:40
Mezhola04:40
penguinboyhow is the UK today?04:40
MezI dont know I havent looked yet04:40
penguinboylol04:40
Kamping_Kaiserhi penguinboy04:40
penguinboyhey KK04:40
MezKamping_Kaiser, did you try that gaim upload i did?04:41
Kamping_Kaiseri havent installed, no04:41
Kamping_Kaiseri'v been fighting cedega04:41
penguinboywhich is better Kopete or Gaim?04:41
Tm_TGaim04:41
Kamping_Kaiserooooh04:41
Mezpenguinboy - in my opinion, gaim04:41
Kamping_Kaiserimo gaim04:41
penguinboyi'll go get it04:42
Mezbut... I did use kopete for a whiel caus eit was purdy and stuff04:42
Kamping_Kaiserthats 3, what more could you want ;)04:42
Mezbut stopped cause of a bug in ti (which has now been fixeD)04:42
penguinboygot it04:43
penguinboyi am having trouble siging onm04:45
penguinboyhow do you make Gaim work?04:46
penguinboyIs Gaim dependent upon AIM,....do I need an AIM account?04:47
Mezyou dont have to use AIm on it04:47
Kamping_Kaiseryou dont need, but can have04:47
Kamping_Kaiserthe aim in gaim is not to do with aim04:48
Kamping_Kaiserits GAIM Aint in Instant Mesanger (iir)04:48
penguinboyit always disconnects me...says incorrect nickname or password04:49
penguinboymmm04:49
Kamping_Kaiseryour nickname is "screen name"04:50
Kamping_Kaiserwhat protocl?04:50
penguinboylike PenguinBoy04:50
Kamping_Kaiserirc? yes04:50
Octanei dont want to write grub to the MBR i want to do so to my boot partition (/dev/sda1) [which i created as bootable] 04:50
Octanebut when i write grub to that part during the installation grub gives me an errror04:51
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penguinboywelcome iuliux and bbna04:54
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Octanecan someone please help me this is very frustrating04:56
Kamping_Kaiseroctane, what error?04:57
Kamping_Kaiseri can try and help ;)04:57
Octaneoh great!04:58
Octanewell its not the error im concerned about04:58
Octaneim just gonna reinstall04:58
Octanei just want to put the boot loader on a boot partition04:58
Octaneand not the MBR04:58
Octanebut when i write the boot lader to /dev/sda1 (where the boot part is) it doesnt work04:58
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Kamping_Kaiseroctane, you can fix the mbr without a reinstall04:59
Octanehow would i do that04:59
Kamping_Kaiserthe Ubuntu cd at least has a rescue mode04:59
penguinboy<pre class="SCREEN"><tt class="COMPUTEROUTPUT">root (hd0,0)05:00
penguinboy        kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.18-0.12-jul2001 ro root=/dev/hda3</tt></pre>05:00
penguinboyoops05:00
OctaneKamping_Kaiser its okay imn gonna reinstall everything anyway05:00
Octanebut i wanna get itright this time05:00
Kamping_Kaiserok.05:00
Kamping_Kaiserlol. you keep doing that penguinboy05:00
OctaneKamping_Kaiser but what am i doing wrong05:01
Octanei have 4 partitions, 1 primary boot 2 primary root 3 primary swap 5 logical home05:02
Octaneand i want the boot loader on the boot partition05:02
Kamping_Kaiserjust the one hdd?05:02
Kamping_Kaiserwhy dont you want to overwrite the MBR?05:03
Octanebercuase i may eventually want to install windows or something05:03
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Octaneand dual boot05:03
Octanefor*05:03
Kamping_Kaiseroctane, if you install windows, just go and rescue grub05:04
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Octanehmmm05:04
Octaneokay!05:04
Octanembr it is05:04
Octanei guess i can always fix things05:04
Octane:)05:04
Kamping_Kaiser:)05:04
Kamping_Kaiserhead back if you have problems05:05
dadanhi I need to know packages that kubuntu repository have, where i can get it05:05
Octaneetc/apt/sources.conf05:05
Kamping_Kaiseryou mean a list of every package in the repos?05:06
Octaneapt-cache search whatever05:06
dadanKamping_Kaiser: yup05:06
Octaneapt-cache list ?05:06
Octaneapt-cache --help05:06
dadanok05:06
Kamping_Kaiserapt-cache dump05:06
OctaneKamping_Kaiser how would i get a boot partition going though05:06
Kamping_Kaiseri recomend |less05:07
Octanehypotically speaking :)05:07
Octanehypothetically even05:07
Kamping_Kaiseroctane, what do you want the boot partition for?05:07
Octane'because windows overwrites the mbr05:07
Kamping_Kaiserleave space at the start of the drive, you install doze, and it kills grub.05:08
Kamping_Kaiserthen05:08
Kamping_Kaiseryou go and launch the install cd , and when it gives the Ubuntu /Kubuntu prompt, type rescue05:08
Kamping_Kaiserit drops into a shell, and you type "grub-install /dev/sda[1?] "05:09
Kamping_Kaiserand your set05:09
Octanei dont understand, i have the boot part, its got a bootable flag, and then i put grub on /dev/sda1 and it didnt work05:09
Kamping_Kaiserthats it in short05:09
Kamping_Kaisersorry for flood05:09
Octanethats a good flood :)05:10
Kamping_Kaiserthe boot partition is where the part of the system goes that is used to boot the system05:10
Kamping_Kaisersystem == Linux/bsd/hurd/whatever05:10
Kamping_Kaisernot windows :O05:10
Octaneso should i just leave 100 megs at the beginning of the drive mark it boot and still write grub to MBR05:11
dadanhi i need messengger that support webcam is kubuntu have it05:11
Kamping_Kaiseroctane, you dont need a /boot partition on a system05:11
Kamping_Kaiserits mostly for security05:11
Kamping_Kaiserimo05:11
Octaneit goes in root part05:11
Octaneshould i mark it bootable/05:11
Kamping_Kaiserdadan, depends on the webcam i expect05:11
Octaneyah depends on webcam05:12
Kamping_Kaiseroctane, a good reason to have /boot on a seperate partition, is that when the OS has loaded, that data is no longer used. if you writ protect the partition, you will always have a clean boot05:13
Octaneahh thank you05:13
Octanegood to know05:13
Kamping_Kaiserso its especialy good for servers05:13
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dadani have mycam 05:13
dadanhow abouy gyache05:14
Octanetry gnomemeeting dadan05:14
dadanhow about gyache05:14
Kamping_Kaiseroctane, this is #Kubuntu05:14
Octanelol05:14
Octane:X05:14
Kamping_Kaiser;)05:15
dadanknomemeeting i guess LOL05:15
dadan:P05:15
Kamping_Kaiserlol05:15
Octane:)05:15
Octaneya just put a k in fropnt of it05:15
dadanheuheuhueh05:16
iuliuxwhat is the command for copiing a folder+it's subforders?05:17
iuliux*copying05:17
Kamping_Kaisercp05:18
Kamping_Kaisercp -R05:18
shogouki-r05:18
Kamping_Kaiserr==R05:18
Kamping_Kaiserafaik05:18
shogoukiseems05:18
iuliuxthamks guys05:21
iuliux*thanks05:21
Kamping_Kaiser:)05:22
dadanhow i can install GCC in kubuntu05:22
Kamping_Kaiserapt-get install gcc-3.*05:22
Kamping_Kaiser* being 3 or 405:22
dadanwhich better05:23
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Kamping_Kaisernot so much better, but go with 405:23
Kamping_Kaiserand get gcc3.4-docs as well05:23
dadanapt-get install gcc-4 <-- like this05:23
Kamping_Kaiserdont05:24
Kamping_Kaiserapt-get install 3.405:24
Kamping_Kaiser*05:24
dadanhow05:24
Kamping_Kaiserapt-get install gcc-3.405:24
dadansorry i've to much ask, but i'm newbie05:24
dadan;)05:25
Kamping_Kaisergcc-4 is out, but its not well supported by K/Ubuntu05:25
Kamping_Kaiserthats cool :)05:25
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dadanheehehe05:25
dadani need gcc to compiling eggdrop05:25
Kamping_Kaiseri asked most questions as well, thats why i know some answers05:25
dadanohh Kamping_Kaiser  you so kind05:26
dadanhahahahha05:26
dadanlol05:26
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dadanif i get packages from debian repository what architecture should i get05:28
dadansarge 05:28
dadanwoody05:28
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dadanor sid05:28
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dadanif i get packages from debian repository what architecture should i get05:28
dadansarge 05:28
dadanwoody05:28
dadanor sid05:28
Kamping_Kaiserlol that was funny05:28
Kamping_Kaiseryou timed that message just right to screw me ;)05:29
dadanhehehhe05:29
dadanKamping_Kaiser: hooh05:29
Kamping_Kaiser:P05:29
Kamping_Kaisergetting from Debian sarge preferably05:30
Kamping_Kaiserbut idealy you dont use Debian packages05:30
dadani need wine05:30
OctaneKamping_Kaiser now i instlaled grub to the MBR and i still get an error with grub!05:30
Kamping_Kaiseroctane, what error05:30
Kamping_Kaiserdadan, Ubuntu has it05:30
Octaneerror 1505:30
dadanto launch my windows aplication05:30
Kamping_Kaiserdadan its in universe05:31
dadanhow i can install wine05:31
Octaneso i loaded in rescue and did grub-install /dev/sda1 and i got the error "/boot/grub/stage2 no read correctly"05:31
Kamping_Kaiserdadan, do you know how to use kynaptic?05:32
Kamping_Kaiseroctane, not sure i can help with that :S i dont recognise it05:32
dadannop05:32
Kamping_Kaiserum.. ok05:32
dadanhow to use it05:33
Kamping_Kaiseri dont know ;)05:33
Kamping_Kaiseri use Ubuntu05:33
dadanooo05:33
Kamping_Kaiserso we will edit the file by hand05:33
Kamping_Kaiseropen up a terminal05:33
dadanit's same with gynaptic isn't05:33
dadan:P05:33
b1rkoffhi05:33
Kamping_Kaiser(called konsole)05:33
b1rkoff:)05:33
Kamping_Kaiser:P Synaptic05:33
dadanKamping_Kaiser: then05:34
b1rkoffOctane: whats wrong ?05:34
Kamping_Kaisertype "sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list"05:34
Octaneb1rkoff: grub gives me error 15 when it tries to load on boot05:35
Octaneb1rkoff: i first tried installing it to /dev/sda1 (my boot part) and that didnt work, so i tried to do it to MBR and i get the same error05:35
dadanOctane: try to change your hardisk mode from lba to chs in bios05:35
Kamping_Kaiserdadan, try "sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list"05:36
Kamping_Kaiserping! dadan05:37
Kamping_Kaiseri want to go to bed05:37
dadanheuehueheu05:38
Kamping_Kaiser:P05:38
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Kamping_Kaiseri just noticed its 1:08 am here05:39
Kamping_Kaiser1L0905:39
Kamping_Kaiser1:09 even05:39
OctaneKamping_Kaiser where are you05:40
Kamping_KaiserAdelaide, Australia, +930 hours05:40
Kamping_Kaiserlol -> Lady Luck brings added income today.  Lady friend takes it away tonight.05:41
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OctaneKamping_Kaiser ive been to adelaide05:45
Octaneand to kangaroo island too :)05:45
Kamping_Kaisercool :)05:46
dadan61.157.139.19 <--- how i can trace this ip in kubuntu05:46
Octaneactually funny story about adelaide -- i met a girl on ICQ who lived there totally randomly prior to going to there (this is 8 years ago)05:46
Kamping_Kaiserhow long for?05:46
Kamping_Kaiserdadan, with host05:46
Kamping_Kaiserand whois05:46
Octaneand i met her in adeliade05:46
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Kamping_Kaisero_005:46
Kamping_Kaiseroctane, does it get better ? ;)05:46
Octanewe hooked up05:47
Octaneit was totally random05:47
Kamping_Kaiserlol05:47
apollo2011I am trying to compile WineX from source and I installed ok following the instructions at http://frankscorner.org/index.php?p=cedegacvs and used the .wine directory available on the site but now I get the below error when I try to run a downloaded version of dcom98.exe:05:47
apollo2011> ksut@Playroom1-Ubuntu:~/Downloads$ wine dcom98.exe05:47
apollo2011> wine: chdir to /home/ksut/.wine/wineserver-Playroom1-Ubuntu : No such file or directory05:47
Kamping_Kaiserwhere do you live?05:47
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OctaneKamping_Kaiser i cant live out in the sticks man05:51
Octaneneed urban05:51
Octanetoo lonely i guess05:51
Kamping_Kaiserlol. YOUR ON IRC05:51
seth_k_chris : what messagn do you get?05:51
Kamping_Kaiser:P05:51
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seth_k_chris, are you using the US archives? (http://us.archive.ubuntu.com)05:54
_chrisyes05:54
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seth_k_chris, known issue. You'll just have to wait05:54
seth_k_chris, or switch sourcelists to http://archive.ubuntu.com05:54
seth_kca and us are confirmed bad at this time05:55
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_chrisseth_k, thanks05:55
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seth_k_chris, you can try this thread in the Ubuntu Forums for updates: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4085605:56
seth_k_chris, you might try backports for firefox unless you don't like using them05:57
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dadanhummm nyummi05:57
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_chris_seth_k, I just changed my sources.list file - worked like a charm by changing sources.06:00
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seth_k_chris, good to hear, have fun!06:02
_chrishave another question - I have a secondary hard drive /dev/hdb1 that mounts through fstab to /home/chris/storage06:02
_chrisin Mandrake 10.1, the owner, user permissions were set to chris - with Kubuntu the owner, user is 501??06:03
_chrisany ideas why that happens06:03
seth_kcan you paste your fstab entry?06:03
_chris'/dev/hdb1 /home/chris/storage ext3 defualts 1 2'06:04
ShuddertrixHopefully with defaults spelled correctly?06:06
seth_kpwnt06:06
_chrisyes :)06:06
seth_kdon't you need user,defaults ?06:06
seth_kalthough never seen the user not be root and be some sort of numbe06:06
seth_kr06:06
_chrisi basically used the same fstab entry that i used in Mandrake.  Figured the same would work06:07
seth_kyou could do something like this06:09
seth_kdefaults,user,uid=chris,gid=whatever06:09
seth_keither one of your gids, or root, or a new gid06:10
seth_khowever you want to work access to the storage drive06:10
seth_kalthough in the end, why does it matter what the mount is owned to, as long as you set umask appropriately06:16
seth_kam reading mount(8) and it doesn't appear you can set uid and gid on an ext3 mount :/06:16
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_chrisi think the reason it is 501 now is because chris was 501 when I had Mandrake as my OS06:19
_chrisand now Kubuntu doesn't know who 501 is06:19
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wizzardhi06:25
wizzarddoes anybody know where can I get apt-get source for Krita? (KOffice graphics program)06:25
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Chameleon22hi all, just did apt-get phpdoc and it installed and all, but trying to run it on a script and i cant bloodey find the executable06:29
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FiretechChameleon22: phpdoc contains the documentation for php, it's only a manual.06:31
FiretechLG GSA-4163B (LG)06:31
Firetechwoot06:31
Chameleon22uh crap06:31
Firetechwrong thing to paste06:31
FiretechThis package provides the documentation for the PHP4 scripting language.06:32
Firetech It is mostly complete now, but it undergoes continual improvements.06:32
Chameleon22whats the name of the actual documentor?06:32
Firetechdocumentor?06:33
Chameleon22to run on scripts to generate api type of docs06:33
FiretechI didn't know that thing existed, and I don't know what it's good for06:34
Chameleon22well it oes lol06:35
Chameleon22*does06:35
Chameleon22Firetech: uhh its a pear pkg ... silly me06:38
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wizzardpls, how can I add a source for an unstable KOffice to my apt-get config file?06:45
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penguinboywizzard go through Synaptic06:50
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penguinboythen click on settings and then repositories and then place a check mark in all bozes06:52
penguinboythat would be the easiest way06:52
penguinboyin Linux there are hard ways and there are easy ways06:52
wizzardpenguinboy, ok, but I need to add some line to my apt-get config file06:54
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Tm_Thaha07:03
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thakatI have the latest version of Kubuntu running (5.04) When I get open firefox it stalls for about 20-40 seconds before anything happens. Anytime I click a hyperlink or post anything the same delay happens. I have Qwest DSL. Funny thing about this is I have a dual boot system and windows gets on it really quick with no lag. How do I make it work right?07:07
thakatand I'm behind a router.07:08
liz4rdwhere are the icons stored :P07:08
liz4rdsudo apt-get dist-upgrade07:08
thakatis that for me?07:08
liz4rdyeah07:08
dadanhow i can install tcl in kubuntu07:10
thakatAnything I need to do after I get the upgrades?07:10
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liz4rdthakat: not really07:12
liz4rdand if firefox keeps doing that...maybe compile it?07:12
thakatcool thanks07:13
liz4rdfirstsudo apt-get remove mozilla-firefox07:13
liz4rdthen compile it if you want07:13
liz4rdit might work07:13
thakatI don't think it is the browser.  All internet related apps share the same problem.07:13
liz4rdthen its your nic :P07:14
dadanhow i can install tcl in kubuntu07:14
thakatthanks again I'07:14
thakatI'll keep my fingers crossed07:14
liz4rddadan: google.com <-- use the force07:14
liz4rddadan: try the ubuntu wiki07:15
liz4rdor is there a kubuntu one?07:15
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somezhi everyone!07:16
liz4rdhi\07:16
somezguys don't you know where can I find a package for the latest gaim?07:16
liz4rdyup07:16
somezubuntu repositories has only 1.1.407:16
somezbut the latest gaim is 1.3.107:17
liz4rdis it07:17
liz4rd*checks his version*07:17
somez:-)07:17
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liz4rdi changed my repos so i dont know for sure07:17
Somezwich version of gaim are you using?07:17
liz4rd1.1.407:18
Somez:-((07:18
Somezso I must use the source07:18
Somezare you using firefox?07:18
liz4rdyes07:19
Somezbecause gaim prevents my firefox from typing an url :-((07:19
liz4rdeh?07:19
Somezif gaim is active, I can't type urls in firefox...07:19
liz4rdthats messed07:19
Shuddertrixyou could try to autopackage too.07:19
Somezstrange bug07:19
Somezwhat is autopackage?07:19
Somezis it working under ubuntu?07:19
Shuddertrixerr, try the autopackage i mean07:19
Shuddertrixit might work07:19
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ShuddertrixMe? Helping people? I just lead them in circles.07:20
penguinboylol07:20
liz4rdlol!07:20
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Bicchii noticed that everytime kde start my desktop icons are rearranged in a different order. how can i maintain the same sorted order every time.07:22
liz4rdinstall xfce407:23
liz4rd:D07:23
liz4rdjk dont listen to me07:23
penguinboyright click on desktop...click on icons...click on align to grid07:23
Bicchii have that set but my icons a grouped by different columns07:24
dadanThe following packages will be upgraded:07:24
dadan  binutils bzip2 dcoprss gdb gzip imagemagick kdelibs-bin kdelibs-data kdelibs4 kdenetwork kdenetwork-filesharing07:24
dadan  kdenetwork-kfile-plugins knetworkconf knewsticker kopete kpf kppp krdc krfb kwifimanager libbz2-1.0 libgnutls1107:24
dadan  libmagick6 libpq3 librss1 libtiff4 libxine1 linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb openoffice.org07:24
dadan  openoffice.org-bin openoffice.org-kde openoffice.org-l10n-en openoffice.org-thesaurus-en-us tcpdump ttf-opensymbol07:24
dadan36 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.07:24
dadanNeed to get 183kB/109MB of archives.07:24
dadanAfter unpacking 12.3kB disk space will be freed.07:24
dadanDo you want to continue [Y/n] ? y07:24
dadanGet:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates/main kwifimanager 4:3.4.0-0ubuntu2.1 [183kB] 07:24
dadanFetched 183kB in 15s (12.1kB/s)07:24
dadanFailed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdenetwork/kwifimanager_3.4.0-0ubuntu2.1_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch07:24
dadanE: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?07:24
dadanwhats wrong07:24
dadanhow i can fix it07:24
KaiL_know.07:24
KaiL_server broken07:24
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dadanany ideas what should i do07:25
Octanewhats the firs tthing one should do once you get a new kubuntu box up?07:25
Octaneapt-get update/upgrade?07:26
Bicchipenguinboy: i have the align to grid set but my icons a grouped by different columns. i want to list them just like windows does. Fill the first column then the second, etc.07:26
dadan<Octane> whats the firs tthing one should do once you get a new kubuntu box up? <-- do you mean that i should restart my computer07:27
dadan?07:27
Octanehuh??:?07:28
dadan:)07:28
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BicchiOctane: get to know ubuntu like undertand how to use synaptic. 07:29
penguinboylol07:29
penguinboyBicchi: then click on desktop....icons...and then align vertically...viola...Windows style07:30
penguinboySynaptic is KEWL!07:30
Bicchipenguinboy: but after i restart kde the icons go back to missalign and are spread in dfferent columnns07:30
penguinboymmm mmm one sec07:31
OctaneBicchi im a semi-advanced user07:32
OctaneBicchi i was referring to whether i need to add some more reports to sources.list07:32
BicchiOctane: check out the FAQ in ubuntu and kubuntu.07:33
Octaneim reviewing it right now07:34
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Octanegod i fucking hate grub07:51
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vicksanyone heard how qt-mozilla is coming along?07:52
Octanei didnt evn know such a project existed07:53
mrabtiHello Every Boby 07:53
mrabtiI want some Information About Assembleur In linux Please 07:53
Octanethe weirdest thing is happening -- i have my kubuntu install (/dev/sda) and grub loads fine w/o any other drives connected, but when i put in /dev/hda & /dev/hdb, grub gives me error 15 file not found07:54
mrabtiPleeeeeeeeeeease 07:54
mrabtican anyone Help 07:54
vicksOctane: they started the project at the last akademy ( i think). it's made by som of the people of khtml, and according to them it's probably going to be the default engine over khtml in konqueror07:55
vickswhich i think is great, but many others don't07:56
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mrabtiI Have A problem In Kubuntu 07:58
mrabtiCan anyone Help me Please 07:59
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mrabtiJe recois beaucoup de Crash 07:59
Tm_Teh?08:00
liz4rdmilk08:02
liz4rdtranslation = milk08:02
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Tm_Thaha08:08
Tm_Tliz4rd: hv08:08
liz4rd:D08:08
liz4rdgoogle translation: I recois much of Crash08:09
liz4rdi think he means08:09
liz4rdMILK08:09
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_duendeIs there a way to stop synaptic from upgrading your kernel?08:20
_duendeor should i just use dselect and do a '=' ?08:20
nmorseclear08:20
_duendewould that stop it from trying to upgrade later on?08:21
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weedarI want to extract the contents of a self-extracting .exe file in linux, which program has this functionality?08:22
onnoWhy does kubuntu download so slow via torrent?08:22
_duendeonno: there are way too many variables there to tell you why08:22
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onnoWell could somebody open its torrent08:23
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onnoso it would go faster...08:23
duendeweedar: i know in windows i can open a self-extracting exe file in winrar or winzip.  perhaps you can do the same in linux with unzip or something like that08:23
onnoIf I download ubunut it goes 400k a sec Kubuntu 20kbs08:23
duendeweedar: i seem to remember doing it with a self extracting bootdisk creator exe in linux08:23
weedarduende: I tried unzip, it didn't work. Even tried running it in wine with no success. I know there is a program that handles these files I just can't remember which :)08:23
duendeoh, ok08:23
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onnoWhat would you recomend Kubuntu, ubuntu or mandrake for somebody who doesn't know anything about GNU/Linux (my father in law)08:25
Tm_TKubuntu08:25
KaiL_kubuntu08:25
KaiL_second ubuntu08:25
KaiL_then nothing :)08:25
duendelol08:25
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crimsunI recommend Windows08:25
duendea bit partial aren't we?08:25
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crimsunseriously though, try Kubuntu08:26
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Tm_Tcrimsun: should I kill you or do you do it yourself?08:26
Tm_T] ;=08:26
crimsunhah08:26
Octanehow does one enter root mode08:26
seth_kKubuntu is definitely more Windows-ish, so it's easier to get immersed imo08:26
KaiL_duende: no, only read an article about mdk on a laptop, which is fully supported by kubuntu08:26
crimsunOctane: see the topic faq in #ubuntu regarding root08:26
KaiL_(Asus M2400N to be exact)08:26
duende?08:26
duendewas that meant for me?08:26
Octanecrimsun thank ya08:26
KaiL_duende: (k)ubuntu can do EVERYTHING on that out of the box08:27
KaiL_mdk needs a lot of work08:27
Octanecrimsun no such thing08:27
duendeKaiL_: eh? i didn't ask a question, i think you mean someone else08:27
crimsunargh08:27
seth_kOctane: you really wish to become root and not use sudo?08:27
KaiL_<duende> a bit partial aren't we? << was about that08:27
duendeooh08:27
onnoIsn't there a faster way to install kubuntu then downloading the full CD?08:27
duendethat was rhetorical08:27
crimsunOctane: search the wiki for the root faq08:27
duendeheh08:27
Octanecrimsun got it08:28
Octaneseth_k ya while i get my system like i want it08:28
weedarstill not extracting this exe, any takers?08:28
duendewhat is the exe?08:28
KaiL_duende: I only wanted to say, that I don't recommened mdk, because I think it isn't good enough.08:28
seth_kOctane: sudo passwd root should let you set a password for the root user08:28
KaiL_not because I work on kubuntu08:29
duendeKaiL_: yeah, i agree, i was never a big fan of it.08:29
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duendeKaiL_: what about SUSE?08:29
Octanebeautiful now i can su - :)08:29
KaiL_suse? I didn't read that much good about 9.308:30
nmorse_I like the green themes in SuSE08:30
nmorse_Too much Blue in most KDE stuff08:30
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KaiL_I primary look at hardware support (esp. those out-of-the-box)08:31
KaiL_there ubuntu is imho far ahead of any other OS08:31
nmorseYeah, Ubuntu wins hands-down on hardware support08:31
duendeKaiL_: i h aven' tried 9.3 yet, but i heard bad stuff about it.  and i have been a big fan of suse08:31
seth_kReally? I have a partition all ready to go for installing 9.3, havne't done it yet08:32
seth_k9.2 was quite nice08:32
duendei think i have 9.1 on dvd, that was nice08:33
KaiL_duende: German c't magazine (heise) wrote, that SuSE 6.3 has a broken alsa08:33
duendeplus the gimped multimedia08:33
KaiL_and even as they (as always..) use breeding edge software: no intel hd audio08:33
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nmorseAnyone else love the amazing Konversation Handbook?08:33
nmorseThat's some way to RTFM08:33
nmorseHere's a copy of it:    08:34
hmtwhat is the best way to change the locale on kubuntu? (in a way that all apps follow the setting)08:34
nmorsegreat now it comes up08:34
duendelol08:34
nmorseNow that I look like a moron08:34
duendei was gonna say08:34
seth_klol08:34
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duendei just pulled up mine and thinking "what is this idiot talking about"08:34
duendeno offense08:34
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nmorseI had to open it a second time08:35
nmorseIt came up blank the first time08:35
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KaiL_I never tried Fedora - is that usable for average users?08:36
duendeme neither08:36
duendei gave up on redhat after 6.208:36
nmorseI gave up after 908:36
nmorseI only used 8 & 9 though08:37
seth_khaha, I can boot Kubuntu, shut down, boot again, log in, all before my instructor's fedora core 3 install boots ONCE08:37
seth_kso bloated08:37
nmorseSwitched to SuSE, then back to Debian08:37
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nmorseThen to gentoo, then back to a Debian Derivative (Kubuntu) and I'll probably wind up in Sid soon08:37
duendeI wish my system didn't lock up so much.  I'm pretty sure it's not a ubuntu issue, but, it locks up whenever something goes on with the video like playing a game, or logging out.08:37
nmorseI'm an OS whore08:37
Octaneanyone know the package name of an amarok-xine package?] 08:37
KaiL_seth_k: fedora so slow?08:38
nmorseuse amarok-engines08:38
KaiL_duende: same on any other OS?08:38
Octanenmorse from which repo/08:38
duendeKaiL_: well, no.  :)  maybe it is a ubuntu issue08:38
KaiL_don't know anything about it08:38
duendei tried upgrading my vid drivers, no change.08:39
KaiL_Octane: amarok-xine (afaik in universe)08:39
OctaneKaiL_ nope nothing in universe08:39
Octaneonly artsd08:39
KaiL_and why do I see it here? :)08:39
nmorseuniverse?08:39
duendemine's in universe08:39
KaiL_did you apt-get update after enableing universe? :)08:39
Octaneyes of course08:40
quamanyone want to give me a good reason to use kde over gnome? :p08:40
duendeit's better08:40
quamhaha08:40
quamyou'll have to do better than that :P08:40
seth_kSFTP allows you to edit live?08:40
Octanequam i switched from gnome to kde08:40
nmorseUniverse/KDE08:40
KaiL_http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/kde/amarok-xine08:40
duendeit's more unified, easier to use, etc.08:40
seth_kThat kills gnome for me08:40
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seth_kif you mount an SFTP volume in Gnome08:40
seth_kit's read only08:40
nmorseKIOSlaves08:40
nmorseEnough said08:40
seth_kKDE is smart enough to save a local copy, make changes, and reupload08:40
nmorseOpening a remote text file straight to Kate08:41
nmorseKdevelop308:41
nmorsedcop08:41
duendethe days of a linux desktop being a patched-together mess of applications that look nor function alike is long past us with KDE08:41
quamwell, im getting the kubuntu package, thought i'd at least look at it08:41
nmorseKAtomic08:41
nmorseYou should, quam08:41
Octanedo you guys also add universe-security to sources?08:42
nmorseBut when you first get into it, run kpersonalizer08:42
nmorseI don't really like Kubuntu's default, and you probably won't either08:42
quami was using mepis, and gnome looked a lot cleaner than kde, more crisp.  went to ubuntu because nothing worked out of the box with mepis. damn oddball laptop08:42
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ilba7rhi i am running ubuntu and want to install kde i added the repos but whenever i check kde i get error messages is the repos at the start of the page is just an upgrade or can i just use it to install from scratch08:46
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seth_kilba7r, you're going to need to be a lot more specific08:47
seth_kwhat error?08:47
ilba7ri tried kdeadmin08:47
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Octanegrrr i get random md5sum mismatches on different packages08:47
Octaneanyone have any idea what gives08:47
ilba7rwhen i checked it it said that there are other packages that are needed but can not be installed08:48
firasRilba7r:  try installing the kubuntu-desktop package08:48
seth_kOctane: ca and us archives are wack08:48
seth_kOctane: use http://archive.ubuntu.com for now08:48
Octaneahh okay08:48
ilba7rso i have to recheck the official ubuntu repos then ok08:48
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firasRilba7r:  try doing an apt-get update and then an apt-get dist-upgrade first08:48
Octaneseth_k should i also uncomment universe security?08:49
Octanehoary-security universe i mean08:49
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quambah, getting a lot of packages with md5 sum errors when trying to get kubuntu from synaptic08:49
seth_kOctane, can't hurt08:49
seth_kquam, use http://archive.ubuntu.com08:50
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seth_kquam, us and ca archives are borked for now08:50
Octanesomeone should topic that :)08:50
Octaneive been pulling hairs over that08:50
firasRseth_k:  any particular reason for that seth ( i noticed that myself )08:50
ilba7rthanx friasr08:50
seth_kfirasR, us and ca servers were down for appx 1h15m yesterday08:50
Octaneis doing dist-upgrade important?08:50
seth_kyour guess is as good as mine, but something's up08:50
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seth_kOctane, just use (s|k)ynaptic08:51
Octanei like command proimpt though08:51
Octanei cant use kynpatic, it doesnt feel right] 08:51
seth_kjust make sure a dist-upgrade doesn't remove half your install then :P08:52
seth_kalthough I'm running breezy, probably doesn't apply to hoary08:52
seth_ksince things are settled08:52
firasRilba7r : 7ayyaak Allaah, anytime08:52
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seth_kI would topic the us|ca archive thing, but I wouldn't want to be shot for it :P08:53
firasROctane:  as far as i know apt-get upgrade only upgrades installed packages, sometimes updated packages require new packages and apt will complain because of that, in this dist-upgrade works better cause it will install any new packages that are needed by an updated package, makes sense ? :)08:54
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firasRhehe08:54
seth_khaha08:54
gdh:)08:54
quamseth_k: thx, got all the packages downloaded and installing now08:55
seth_kgrood08:55
firasRgdh: just be careful u don't offend the canadians though ! ( US != north america )08:55
quamcanadians don't count :)08:55
seth_keverybody loves canadians08:55
gdhOh dear, let's not start that again :)08:55
quamhehe08:55
gdh, eh.08:55
seth_khow can you not like them? they have mounties08:55
seth_k:P08:55
firasRlol 08:55
gdhMounties are cool, yes :)08:56
quami thought the mounties were just their form of chippendales :P08:56
gdhbut I couldn't eat a whole one.08:56
OctanefirasR thanks for that explanation :)08:58
firasROctane:  u'r more than welcome :)08:59
gdhI have the same problem with 'it all being the same thing' ... I'm from Northern Ireland.. I'm British, not Irish :)08:59
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quamok, in kubuntu now, what was that command someone suggested?09:00
quamto customize shit or something :P kconfigure or something similar09:00
gdhsudo kcontrol ?09:00
seth_kkpersonalizer09:00
quamno09:00
quamthat's it09:00
seth_k^_^09:00
gdhsudo mkfs can be fun, too :)09:00
quamno :P09:00
firasRgdh:  i went to a british school from 1st all the way to high school (or secondary school as it was called) and with all due respect i still get confused with all that UK, Britain, Ireland, N Ireland, Scotland thing09:02
firasRgdh:  problem was i had teachers from all of them so that didn't help either, just made me more confused :) hehe09:02
gdh=) It's terribly simple, really... the 'UK' is 'The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland'09:03
firasRoh i forgot to mention "Englad" as well09:04
firasR"England"09:04
gdhYou also forgot Wales, but hey that's understandable :))09:04
nmorsequam: kpersonalizer09:05
firasRhehe, i had teachers from there as well !09:05
nmorseCornwall?09:05
gdhHeh, the Cornish love to think of themselves as their own little independent toe of the UK.09:05
gdhyou can't run an independent state on exports of pasties alone.09:06
firasRgdh:  great, that's UK defined, so what about England ?09:06
gdhEngland is part of Great Britain (Eng, Scot, Wales)09:06
Tm_Tand northern ireland09:07
gdhIt's part of the UK.09:07
firasRthat's where I get lost !09:07
gdhand the British Isles includes the Republic of Ireland, and Isle of Man, and the Channel Islands.09:07
gdhhehe :)09:07
nmorseYeah, and Ireland's not even in the EU09:08
gdhSorry?09:08
gdhIt is, rather :)09:08
gdhthey've been using the Euro as their currency for about 4 years now09:08
nmorseHmm, I though they held out when the UK signed over09:08
nmorseI got this huge map from National Geographic09:09
nmorseIt listed Iceland, Ireland, Switzerland, and I think Turkey as not in the EU09:09
KaiL_Ireland..?09:09
gdhit's a bit out of date then09:09
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KaiL_gdh: Ireland is in the EU since 1987 afair09:10
gdhYep that sounds about right09:10
nmorseSo much for those maps being any good09:11
gdhhttp://europa.eu.int/abc/european_countries/eu_members/ireland/index_en.htm09:11
gdhwow, 197309:11
nmorseProbably they'll run a correction next issue09:11
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nmorseI think the EU is the worst idea ever09:11
nmorseToo many countries and things that aren't countries in Europe09:12
nmorseCatalunya comes to mind09:12
Tm_Tnmorse: not worst idea, but it sucks how it's done09:12
gdhIt's a fantastic money pit, for sure.09:12
gdha lovely long snaking gravy train09:12
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Octanewhats a good package for apache09:13
Octanethat will install php and all the good stuff09:13
Octanelike a suite of some sort perhaps09:13
gdher, apt-get install apache phpmyadmin mysql-server 09:14
gdh?09:14
Octanedont need mysql-server09:14
gdhheh, you usually can't escape it :)09:14
Octanei have it on my server box ;)09:14
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nmorsepostgres-sql09:16
firasROctane:  apache2 and php4 packages should do it for u09:16
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Octanethank ya, again09:18
firasRur welcome09:19
Firetechseth_k: I run it, but I compiled it myself... There is a complete guide in the wiki09:21
nmorsewell, quam, how's KDE treating you?09:21
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seth_kfiretech: compiling from source is against my religion, or something like that :P09:22
Firetechseth_k: It is really simple09:23
seth_kfiretech: I saw the guide in the wiki, might have to break my vows and try it ;)09:23
firasRseth_k:  aaaw, where's ur sense of adventure ?! take's all the fun out of running a *nix distro if u don't compile anything !09:23
seth_kfiretech: don't you have to compile each module you need?09:24
Firetechit's in one simple command: make.09:24
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Firetechall modules are compiled with it (you have to select which modules you want to compile with that long ./configure command)09:25
Octaneman i love the kubuntu iconset09:25
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seth_kah, so you don't have to configure and make for each one09:25
seth_kthat sounds much better09:25
firasRlater all09:25
Octaneweird. my kb just stopped working09:28
seth_kand yet you typed that sentence? :D09:28
OctaneLOL on my kubuntu box thjis is a laptop :)))))))))09:29
seth_kfine fine :P09:29
gdhwhy do all the manufacturers insist on saying 'notebook' ? Surely something like a PDA is more like a 'notebook' ?09:30
Firetechheh, the <TITLE> of PostgreSQL's website says "PostgreSQL: The world's most advanced open source database", the <TITLE> of MySQL's website says "MySQL: The World's Most Popular Open Source Database"09:30
gdhYet they call them 'handhelds' ... ffs09:30
Firetechthat's a bit too similar09:30
gdhMySQL == VHS, pgsql == Beta :)09:30
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quamheh09:31
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_chriswhen I used Webmin on Mandrake, I always used root for user and my root pass.  How is this handled in Kubuntu?09:33
_chrissince there is no root pass09:33
quamthe sudo command is used to run processes that require root authority09:33
_chrisi understand09:34
quamyou can turn the root account on if you wish, check the ubuntu wiki for rootsudo09:34
seth_kor just sudo passwd root, yes?09:34
_chrisi tried sudo passwd root09:35
_chrisI get sorry, try again09:35
seth_kyou put in your password first?09:35
quamenter your password first09:35
gdh:)09:35
quamthen the password you want for root09:35
seth_kyep09:35
_chrisred09:36
gdhyour user password is 'red' ? erk :)09:36
seth_khaha09:36
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_chrishahaha09:36
quamheh09:36
gdhpwned =)09:36
quamseth you use gaim for irc?09:37
_chrisi've got to get used to this sudo bizness09:37
seth_kquam: yeah, I don't IRC enough to justify running two clients09:37
seth_ke.g. gaim + xchat09:38
quambitchx > xchat09:38
quameven konversation > xchat09:38
quamkonversation isn't bad at all, i just like the look of bitchx09:38
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seth_kquam, what cool features does bitchx have09:42
quamprobably none if you're used to gui irc clients09:42
seth_khaha09:43
quami dont really know why i like it :P09:43
quamin fact i just switched to konversation :p09:43
seth_khehe09:44
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vicksit seems like i don't have a cups server running. anyone have idea why?09:45
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Tm_TOctane: was it the right package?09:51
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Octaneyes09:51
Octanei thought iw as asking that questrion in here09:51
Octanestupid09:52
Octaneme09:52
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Tm_TTroll: stop trolling09:58
seth_krolleye09:58
quamheh09:59
seth_kbah @ living in the Midwest10:01
seth_kno one to sign my public key within 200 miles of me10:01
quamheh10:01
quamdunno why im heh'ing, i have no clue wtf you're talking about10:02
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gdhseth_k: Looking to be @debian.org or something?10:02
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Trollnot trolling 10:02
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seth_kJust a hunch Troll, but I think he was joking10:03
seth_kgdh, Ubuntu member10:03
Trollyeah i got it <smile> 10:03
gdhAh,k... I hope the Ubuntu membership procedure is less tortuous than debian's10:03
Tm_TTroll: no, I'm so damn seroius ;)10:04
Tm_Tseth_k: define ubuntu member10:04
seth_kTm_T: one moment10:05
seth_kTm_T: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/processes/newmember10:05
seth_kthe third heading10:05
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Tm_Tah ok10:05
seth_kTm_T: You have to sign the code of conduct, and I was told you have to have your public key signed by someone in the strong10:06
seth_kwhich pretty much puts me out of luck *shrugs*10:06
crimsunwhere are you located geographically, seth_k?10:07
seth_kcrimsun, Missouri, USA10:07
seth_ksmack dab in the middle10:07
Tm_Tseth_k: ok10:07
crimsunhmm, that's a bit of a drive10:07
seth_khaha10:07
crimsunI suppose I can do that over the 4th holiday10:08
crimsunI'll have to swing through IA to sign amaranth's key anyhow10:08
seth_ko_010:08
crimsunI'm in rochester, mn10:08
seth_kand you're going to go to IA just for amaranth?10:08
crimsunno, I have cousins in TX10:08
seth_kah, fair do's10:09
Mezlol - sounds like you're gonna have fun crimsun10:13
Mezwanna come sign my key too ?10:13
seth_kwe're gonna have to start paying him :P10:13
quamAsk him to sign something worth signing, like your wife's breasts or something :P10:14
Meznah - I'm in the UK10:14
Mezcould be interesting for crimsun10:14
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ulitest10:49
uliHIIIIII10:49
ulii have a problem in kubuntu10:49
ulican anyone help me?10:49
uliplease please10:49
Tm_Tand the problem is?10:49
gdhAsk, and we'll try.10:49
Tm_T:)10:50
Tm_Tdo we? ] ;=10:50
gdhNobody could say we're not trying :)10:50
ulioke, i have the amarok player but i had to download the gstreamer which i installed then with dpkg -i without error10:50
uliBUT10:50
Tm_Teh?10:50
ulithe engine does not appear in the amarok player10:50
ulionly "aRts" and "no engine"10:51
Tm_Tuli: you need to install amarok-gstreamer or something like that10:51
Tm_Tamarok-gstreamer it is10:51
ulii did install gstreamer-08..****10:51
uliamarok gstreamer is something different?10:51
seth_kyep10:52
ulidamn...10:52
uliok, ill try10:52
seth_kit will hook up amaroK to the gstreamer stuff10:52
Tm_Tuli: "sudo apt-get install amarok-gstreamer"10:52
seth_knot supported though, why not use artsd?10:52
Tm_Tseth_k: gstreamer is a way better10:52
Tm_Tat least in my box10:52
Tm_Tand gstreamer is default engine in amaroK10:53
ulihmm, ill have to update my apt-get list..10:53
seth_kuli: it's in universe10:53
seth_kiirc10:53
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ulik^^ trying..10:55
ulieh, what is in universe?10:58
seth_kamarok-gstreamer10:58
seth_ki'll go find it10:58
ulithx :-)10:58
seth_kyep10:59
seth_k1.2.3-1ubuntu410:59
seth_kuniverse10:59
randabisI use amarok-arts10:59
Tm_T:/10:59
seth_klol10:59
uliweird...10:59
seth_kuli: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/kde/amarok-gstreamer10:59
Tm_Trandabis: and what amaroK ?10:59
randabis1.2.311:00
ulime too11:00
randabisI'm pondering updating kde to 3.4.111:00
ulioops, i must install some gstreamer packages first11:01
vicksstrange, i just installed amarok-gstreamer and it updated like every package on the system including grub. synapic said it wouldn't install any other package. anyone knows why?11:02
_oshrandabis: you should. I did and it works a lot better now.11:02
Tm_Trandabis: heh, that's old11:03
seth_krandabis: yep, tons of crashers fixed11:03
seth_kalthough I use breezy :P11:03
Tm_Trandabis: 1.3-SVN here ;)11:03
seth_koh noes, svn11:03
seth_k<3 svn11:04
randabiscool11:04
seth_kespecially for webapps11:04
randabiswell I've been away for a month11:04
Tm_Trandabis: no explains!11:04
seth_knothing like ssh'ing into my remote box and typing "svn up" to update wordpress11:04
Tm_Tyou lazy worm11:04
randabisI'm a commercial truck driver so I'm away from this computer a lot11:04
Tm_Tseth_k: yeah!11:04
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seth_ksalut :P11:05
randabisstarting the update now11:05
dogfoodbrainseth_k, :)11:06
quamwhat's breezy?11:06
seth_kBreezy is the unstable version of Ubuntu11:07
seth_kUbuntu 5.1011:07
seth_kit will be released in October11:07
quamahh, thx11:07
Tm_Tyeah, very unstable11:08
quamheh, the version numbers of ubuntu are done by year.month?11:08
Tm_Tquam: yes11:08
seth_kthat's right11:08
gdhAh! :)11:08
gdhnever knew that- always wondered, but not enough to ask11:08
Tm_Tseth_k: hmm, where's breezy warnings wrom topic?11:08
seth_kwrom topic?11:09
Tm_Tfrom11:09
seth_ke.g., why you shouldn't upgrade right now?11:09
uliaaah, damn, too much depencies, where can i get an apt-get list where amarok gstreamer is available11:09
seth_kuli: just sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the universe lines11:10
ulii tried to manually install each gstreamer11:10
Tm_Tseth_k: yeah, there was dbus and something else11:10
ulioh, ok, thx11:10
seth_kdbus and the C++ ABI transition11:10
seth_kboth of which are done now11:10
seth_kX.org is still a little touchy11:10
Tm_Tok11:10
seth_kbut -23 got approved two days ago, and now things are great11:10
seth_krunning breezy on two workstations11:10
seth_krock solid11:10
randabiswhat kernel?11:11
Tm_Tso breezy might be ok in two months then I think11:11
seth_kgnome has a real menu editor now :P11:11
Tm_Tyuk11:11
seth_ki know, I don't use Gnome either11:11
seth_kstill 2.6.1011:11
seth_k2.6.12 is coming slowly11:11
seth_kit has some sweet patches11:11
randabiscool11:11
randabisyeah I know11:11
Tm_Tmovie ->11:12
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gosshello :)11:13
nmorsehi11:14
gossi just installed kubuntu11:14
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gossi was wondering if there was a built in update tool for this?11:14
gossim a linux noob BTW :P11:14
Mezgs11:14
gdhgoss: read www.ubuntuguide.org :)11:14
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Mezyeah11:14
Mezthat11:14
gdhsome of it's GNOME-specific, but it's good reading11:15
Mezthere ought to be a kubuntuguide11:15
seth_kthere is11:15
seth_kto get updates, choose K Menu > System > Kynaptic, Reload and Mark Upgrades11:15
gosshehe11:16
gossty ok11:16
gossi will google11:16
gossright thank you seth11:16
goss:)11:16
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gossim glad i tried linux11:16
gossim already impressed with it11:16
seth_khaha11:17
seth_kit grows on you11:17
gosscompared to scamDowz11:17
gossyeah :D11:17
nmorsekubuntu guide is in topic11:17
seth_kyep, http://kudos.berlios.de11:17
seth_kI knew it was somewhere :P11:17
seth_kright under my nose11:17
gosscheers mate, i just found that on google at the same time :)11:18
gossbookmarked!11:18
gossonce i mark upgrades in kynaptic shal i commit?11:19
randabisalways good to see newcomers leave the dark side11:19
gosshaha :)11:19
seth_kthat's right goss11:19
randabisheh I joined the 21st century finally...got a cell phone again11:20
gossty11:20
gossshow me the way master jedi's :)11:20
randabishaven't had one in over a year11:20
quamthe dark side being gnome? :P11:20
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seth_kLOL11:21
uliarrr sux11:21
randabishah11:21
gossLOL11:21
randabisI was thinking windows11:21
gossi like the look of KDE11:21
seth_kno, Gnome is the brown side11:21
seth_k:X11:21
quamthat works too :P11:21
gosswow WTF11:21
ulidoes the aRts engine work with mp3 without gstreamer?11:21
gossWTF!11:21
quamthe brown side makes it sound too much like pop :p11:21
seth_khaha11:21
quamerr poop11:21
gossit literally updated my system in about 1 second11:21
randabisuli: yeah if you have the akode-mpeg package11:21
seth_kstand back people, goss' computer is exploding11:21
gosshaha no it just updated mega fast11:21
gosson windows it would take years11:22
seth_kprobably not much to update11:22
gossnah not too much11:22
seth_kUbuntu has different release cycles than Windows11:22
goss33 packages :)11:22
gossright11:22
seth_kjust security updates for 6 months11:22
seth_kthen you'll get the next version, which will be a whopping upgrade11:22
seth_kbut, it's all done over the internet the same way you just upgraded the security fixes :)11:22
seth_kjust click, click, done11:22
gossyeah lol11:23
seth_kthe next version will be Breezy Badger, in October11:23
seth_kso you'll just get security fixes until then11:23
seth_kthen you'll edit the file /etc/apt/sources.list11:23
gossright11:23
gdhLike Debian, but Better, and Faster :)11:23
seth_kand change all the words "hoary" to "breezy"11:23
seth_kand boom11:23
gossace11:23
gossthanks11:23
Mezthough11:23
MezI wouldnt suggest trying that now11:23
Mez :P11:23
seth_klol11:23
quamthe names for the releases are weak :p11:23
gossso you are upgrading it to the next package11:23
gosswithout the hassle11:23
goss:)11:23
gosslool11:23
seth_kyou know it >_<11:23
Mezunless you like the install process of hoary11:23
gossyeah it is a weird name11:24
gosshehe11:24
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seth_kAlthough, I've been running Breezy since Hoary+411:24
seth_kI like punishment11:24
seth_k:P11:24
gdhYeh, who comes up with the release names?11:24
seth_ksabdfl11:24
Mezprob mdz :P11:24
seth_knope, sabdfl11:24
gossso any advice on some important tools? where would i get some video codes from? suggestions on a good p2p program for linux?11:24
seth_kAzureus for P2P11:24
Mezah sabdfl - hehe :D remind me to slap him11:24
seth_keverything you need is on http://ubuntuguide.com11:24
gossLOOOl11:25
seth_kvideo, audio, Azureus11:25
seth_ketc.11:25
gossright seth cheerz i have read a bit i will carry on :)11:25
quamazureas isn't available via package manager?11:25
seth_knope11:25
seth_kI think maybe in backports?11:25
seth_kmez?11:25
gossdo you guys come on this channel alot then?11:25
seth_kI'll be here most days11:25
gosscool11:25
seth_koh and Mez: sabdfl dropping eleventy majillion $$ on Ubuntu, he can dern well name it waht he wants :D11:26
quami thought you didnt irc enough to warrant running 2 clients :P11:26
gosslol11:26
seth_kindeed11:26
seth_konly #kubuntu, #ubuntu, #invisionfree11:26
seth_k*shrugs*11:26
seth_kmaybe I'll switch if I get bored :P11:26
seth_kbut Gaim does what I need11:26
Mezazureus  in backports yes11:27
gossjust waiting for kynaptic to finish11:27
seth_kokay goss, you can follow the instructions on Ubuntu Guide for "how to add extra repositories?"11:27
gossi have heard alot about Wine and Cedaga11:27
seth_kand then install Azureus through Kynaptic11:27
gossyeah i will be fine seth mate11:27
Mezseth_k - #kubuntu-devel,#ubuntu-devel,.#ubuntu-motu,#ubuntu-meeting11:27
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seth_ki am not worthy11:28
=== _osh thinks kynaptic needs more work.
seth_k:P11:28
seth_kkynaptic sucks11:28
seth_kit's being replaced with Kapture11:28
gdh_osh: kynaptic is already deprecated :)11:28
seth_kI do believe11:28
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seth_khahas11:28
gdhit ws a last minute rush job to have /something/11:28
goss*11:28
gosshow do i do that? hehe11:28
Mezseth_k, the -devel channels are acutally quite useful :D along weith the -MOTU chan11:28
seth_kgoss, do what? actions? type /me does stuff11:29
seth_kMez, maybe later :P11:29
seth_kband practice now11:29
seth_knight all11:29
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_oshseth_k: G'nite. Play nice.11:30
Mezhmm11:30
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gossso i understand that repositries in linux are similar to what .EXE files are in windows?11:31
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seth_k||awaygoss, no11:31
gosslol :(11:31
seth_k||awayrepositories are servers that hold software for you to use11:31
gossahhhhhhhhhhh11:31
seth_k||awayand you access them through kynaptic or synaptic11:31
gossright11:31
seth_k||awayso like, one repository might have 10,000 software packages11:31
seth_k||awayand you can pick what you want11:32
seth_k||awaywith a few clicks11:32
seth_k||awaybetter than download .exe, scan for viruses, install, oh no registry corruption! :P11:32
gossand whats the normal extension for a software package in linux?11:32
seth_k||awaygoss: for Ubuntu it will be .deb11:32
seth_k||awaysince Ubuntu is a Debian child11:32
gosshaha indeed i have had a few problems with registry corruption in windowz11:32
gossindeed, i do know that :)11:32
seth_k||away:D11:33
seth_k||awayokay, really leaving now *runs*11:33
gosshehe :D11:33
gossthanks for your help11:33
gossi will add the extra repositries so i have more places to download :)11:34
quamawesome, kynaptic just took a shit on me11:34
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gosswhat happened?11:34
gdhThat's the basis of a thorough bug report, certainly :)11:34
quami added those backport repositories from ubuntuguide11:35
quamit doesnt like any of them :p11:35
gosslol11:35
gossunlucky11:35
gossright guys im off for a bit11:36
gossnice chattin cheers for the help11:36
gossbye11:36
seth_k||awaydid you reload, quam? (as I put on shoes)11:36
gdhseth_k||away: going anywhere nice? :)11:37
quamit tried to reload when i opened synaptic, got a bunch of W errors or smething11:37
seth_k||awayquam: no, that's the parsing11:37
seth_k||awayquam: reload once and you're gold11:37
seth_k||awaygdh: just band practice11:38
seth_k||awayhave a gig tonight11:38
gdhah, cool.11:38
gdhI won't even ask what kind of band since I'm so out of touch with popular culture :)11:38
gdhbut.. I revel in that :)11:38
seth_k||awayhaha11:38
seth_k||awayshoes are on, I'm out the door. quam try reloading11:39
quami did11:40
quamdownloading :p11:40
quamthx11:40
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gosshello again11:57
goss:)11:57
gossi have a radeon 9800pro and a 19inch samsung syncmaster and the max resolution it says i can have is 1024x768 when i need 1280x1024 which i can usually have in windows, any help please? thanks!11:58
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gdhgoss: edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add in '1280x1024' in the relevant place where 1024x768 currently is12:00
gossoh i tried that before but added it next to it instead, cheers mate12:01
goss<<< jus got linux :)12:01

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