=== mkde [Matt@mdke.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jlj [~agp@port47.ds1-stm.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:13] mdz: once liblog4j1.2-java is in the archives, you could try to run germinate again [12:13] doko: ok === bskahan [~bskahan@pool-70-19-32-209.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:24] good night [12:24] night dholbach [12:24] night dholbach [12:24] *wave* === mxpxpod [~BryanForb@wuw-ojr3gmca.dybb.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Folletto [~folletto@host181-22.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Folletto [~folletto@host181-22.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Sto] [12:39] jdub: i see you are presenting at oscon :) [12:48] calc: yeah === pedro_ [~pedro@pc-200-74-115-21.megavia.pc.metropolis-inter.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:49] i noticed microsoft is on the sponsor list, funny stuff :) [12:49] ooh, i should say something controversial [12:49] SPONSOR THIS! [12:49] (moons audience) [12:52] heh. microsoft sponsored the grid conference I went to this spring. grid in this case means linux clusters talking with eachother. the first words from the microsoft guy that talked: "I come in peace" [12:53] http://www.acc.umu.se/~maswan/bilder/20050419-EGEE.gr/index.html?view=IMG_3734.JPG [12:53] also, take a look at the face of the microsoft booth person. rather bored after 3 days and noone talking to her, perhaps? [12:54] once you toggle the menu off in gnome-terminal, how you get it back? [12:55] trulux: there's a checkbox in the context menu [12:55] maswan: hehe [12:56] jdub: I can only see the tabs but no menu, and dunno how to get it back ;) [12:56] trulux: right click for the context menu [12:56] oh, yup [12:57] jdub: many thanks [12:57] But hey, we didn't have to pay for the lunch buffets, so we shouldn't complain. :) [12:57] hahaha [12:57] maswan: nice [12:57] :-) [12:58] damn jhbuild takes a long time [12:58] stupid 1.2Ghz Duron machine [12:59] building with gcc 3.4 even, so it's super painful === Mez slaps amaranth a bit [01:02] Mez: .. [01:03] hey tseng [01:03] hi. [01:03] :D === Mez gets bored [01:05] daniels: ping [01:06] jdub: ping [01:06] he went to bed only a few hours ago [01:07] oh [01:08] gar im going to write a canned statement about the mono backport soon [01:08] this is getting old. [01:08] you're getting old [01:08] :p [01:08] not as old as you! [01:08] I'm 21! [01:08] mr. senior tape backup [01:08] I'm 20! [01:09] schweeb: a/s/l? [01:09] you're a bish [01:09] I'm definitely goin bar hopping tonight [01:09] yay [01:09] tseng - you sound like an AOLer [01:10] Mez: except I do it as a joke [01:10] tseng, I know... as was my comment [01:14] god I'm bred === lamont_r heads home === Nafallo [~nafallo@nafallo.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mdz [~mdz@ca-studio-bsr1o-251.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bskahan [~bskahan@pool-70-19-32-209.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === |QuaD- [~QuaD@pcp0011386062pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === thoreauputic [~prospero@wolax8-047.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === wasabi_ [~wasabi@pcp05124942pcs.sntafe01.nm.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:00] mdz: welp, w/no firewall enabled connected to uni's wifi network nothing happens and all is well, thanks, so it is universe firewall related (#10090) === SloMo [~slomo@p5487F390.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:12] anyone here on breezy with KDE willing to test a package for me/ === mdz [~mdz@ca-studio-bsr1o-251.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mdz [~mdz@ca-studio-bsr1o-251.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mdz [~mdz@ca-studio-bsr1o-251.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:25] fabbione: my machine still requires irqpoll with the latest 2.6.12 [03:26] mdz, you're running breezy I assume ? (somewhere) [03:28] are there any known issues with the hoary live cd on vmware/vpc? [03:29] massive update action going on lately [03:29] wowzer [03:36] <|QuaD-> hah [03:37] <|QuaD-> it still didn't fix x :( [03:42] what's wrong w/ x? [03:42] <|QuaD-> jnc: have you upgraded and rebooted? [03:42] nope [03:42] <|QuaD-> it messes with the font [03:42] gah [03:42] <|QuaD-> something with fonts [03:42] good thing it's a weekend [03:42] <|QuaD-> why? [03:42] i'm getting an error about MD5 sums [03:42] <|QuaD-> lol === jnc <-- work machine [03:42] <|QuaD-> oh [03:43] call me crazy, it's amd64 box and i needed openoffice to print [03:43] so i threw breezy on it [03:45] W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xscreensaver/xscreensaver_4.21-4ubuntu4_amd64.deb [03:45] MD5Sum mismatch [03:45] pardon the paste [03:46] what have i missed? [03:46] /topic #ubuntu [03:47] Amaranth, you there? === jnc /joins #ubuntu [03:47] oh, what's that got to do with MD5 sums [03:48] the mirror is messed up [03:48] use a different mirror [03:48] uk works [03:48] okay [03:51] eh i guess i'll wait until it works again, uk doesn't seem to like me === Nafallo [~nafallo@nafallo.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:53] |QuaD-: fonts look okay [03:54] <|QuaD-> jnc: X won't start i don't think [03:55] daniels, are you awake? i'm looking for some newer debs of xorg to see if they can cope with an hpux xfs [03:57] mono == love [03:59] or rather [03:59] mono == porn ;-) [03:59] <|QuaD-> therefore, mono == love == porn [03:59] <|QuaD-> which means love == porn [03:59] <|QuaD-> which means, why get married when you can watch porn? [03:59] :-D [04:04] |QuaD-: works here [04:04] <|QuaD-> jnc: you restarted? [04:05] yes [04:07] holy smokes! I'm out of memory+swap [04:07] 2GB :-P [04:07] <|QuaD-> jnc: here it doesn't work [04:07] <|QuaD-> jnc: it was a known problem [04:07] |QuaD-: nuts to your known problem [04:08] <|QuaD-> jnc: maybe it is the repo i am using? [04:08] <|QuaD-> archive.ubuntu.com [04:09] could be [04:10] Nafallo: yeah i've been getting that on my amd64 box here [04:10] no idea why [04:10] eventually i have to close evolution to start anything else [04:10] it's hauntingly similar to win95 back in the day when you rebooted it 'cause of memory leaks [04:11] jnc: using mono? [04:11] jnc: i.e. beagle + f-spot [04:13] im not sure beagle is a mem leak [04:13] people seem to underestimate the daunting task that indexing gig after gig of files is [04:15] <|QuaD-> tseng: it used up my mem [04:15] <|QuaD-> i was able to index before this [04:18] i can always index [04:18] i guess it likes me. [04:18] <|QuaD-> tseng: haha [04:18] <|QuaD-> no memory leaks for you :) [04:18] <|QuaD-> are you using the packages you created for breezy? [04:18] yes [04:19] <|QuaD-> oh [04:19] are you? [04:19] <|QuaD-> yes [04:19] k === Nafallo [~nafallo@nafallo.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:22] my laptop frooze ;-) === mez [~mez@82-36-228-130.cable.ubr01.perr.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:29] Nafallo: nah, just normal office stuff. evo, OOo, ff, gt [04:30] jnc: ahh. that problem I don't have :-). === blueyed [~daniel@iD4CC084E.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:36] Nafallo: EZ GTK BOOG [04:37] hehe === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [05:02] jdub: pong [05:03] doko: i'm waiting for colony 2 to be released before I drop all the new stuff in [05:03] hmm [05:03] chol: nothing's changed in that regard, sorry [05:03] I've just changed a line in a config file for konversation to change the autojoin channel #kde to autojoin #kubuntu [05:03] and it#'s not working [05:03] that shouldnt break it should it [05:03] It's the only thing I chnaged [05:04] and worked fine before I changed that one teeny thing [05:04] any dieas anyone === wasabi_ [~wasabi@pcp05124942pcs.sntafe01.nm.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:10] reverting "fixes" it? [05:11] put your diff up somewhere [05:11] http://www.thewock.com/ubuntu/breezy/konversation_0.18-1ubuntu1.diff.gz [05:12] bob2, cna i pm? [05:13] no ideas, sorry [05:13] bob2: this train is for cockfosters. [05:14] so, there's a road here..woodcock drive. [05:14] oh man [05:14] I'd like it moved closer to the airport for new arrivals to appreciate. [05:22] hmm [05:22] how to make a .dev when pruged rmove configs from users home dir? [05:22] that arent included when installed first time [05:24] Amaranth: can we have an op in #kubuntu? [05:27] i'm not an op there [05:28] thoreauputic: what's the problem? [05:28] daniels: a troll, racist, blah blah [05:28] spamming the chan [05:29] thanks, daniels [05:29] thanks whoever you are (I assume fooishbar!) [05:29] or thats a pseudo account [05:30] Mez: fooishbar is linked to my nick, yeah [05:30] fair enough [05:30] anyways [05:30] I think I'm going to bed now i sorte dout the konv problem (it was a crappy rc file === robitaille [~robitaill@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === wasabi_ [~wasabi@pcp05124942pcs.sntafe01.nm.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:17] is laptop sleeping expected to be working currently? (is it just me who can't wake up?) [06:20] depends on the laptop [06:20] works on most hp and ibm's [06:21] ibook. ;0 [06:23] should work fine [06:23] g3s have worked for years [06:23] g4 since end of last year === blahrus [nxdis@12-223-50-121.client.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:25] thanks. long as I know that i'll keep trying. === stevedog [~Steve@tnt03-760.phlpa.fast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:30] i can't install Hoary (or Warty) on my G5 iMac, its saying "cannot find common CD-Rom" === mpt [~mpt@203-167-186-66.dsl.clear.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:50] when I go to install beagle, it wants to remove firefox . . . any ideas? [06:51] this is in breezy [06:51] ... [06:51] it's breezy, it's not supposed to work! [06:52] yes yes, please don't give me that lecture, i know this, I can here to see if anyone else was aware of this [06:52] came* here [06:55] nothing in the bts? [06:56] i can't install Hoary (or Warty) on my G5 iMac, its saying "cannot find common CD-Rom" [06:57] bob2: nothing I saw === pamri [~pamri@dialpool-210-214-122-124.maa.sify.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stevedog [~Steve@tnt03-760.phlpa.fast.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] [06:58] daniels: around? [06:59] jdub: REPRESENT [06:59] aye aye [07:00] http://people.ubuntu.com/~jdub/random/xorg-ate-my-keyboard.txt [07:00] fully up to date [07:01] jdub: just call me captain birdseye [07:01] jdub: so, if you SSH in and run xev, and give it focus with the mouse [07:01] jdub: do you get nothing whatsoever for normal keys, but control and shift are mapped properly? [07:02] daniels: is the "monitos on nvidia cards don't get setup correctly" fix the same as for i810? [07:02] jdub: those were the errors I got :) [07:03] blahrus: you can't type? [07:03] bob2: what was the fix for the former? [07:04] daniels: run ddcprobe, find the v/h syncs, put them in x.org.conf manually [07:04] daniels: ouch, xev gives me nothing [07:04] jdub: is it focussed wit hthe mouse? [07:04] bob2: XORG_SYNC_RANGES=yes sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg [07:04] daniels: i get more output by running X alone, btw [07:04] no I can type, I just updated to the new xorg [07:05] I just did an update like 2secs ago [07:05] daniels: yes, it's getting mouse events === yogi [foobar@iucha.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:05] expected keysym, got XF86_Switch_VT_1: line 8 of xfree86 [07:05] expected keysym, got XF86_Switch_VT_2: line 11 of xfree86 [07:05] expected keysym, got XF86_Switch_VT_3: line 14 of xfree86 [07:05] ... [07:05] jdub: ok, do you get any output from control and shift? or no key on the keyboard at all [07:05] The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports: [07:05] > Warning: Multiple interpretations of "NoSymbol+AnyOfOrNone(all)" [07:05] > Using last definition for duplicate fields [07:05] [07:05] jdub: woah, what the shit [07:05] ^ stuff like this in X output [07:05] ooh, i get ctrl and shift [07:06] and alt [07:06] jdub: sweet [07:06] jdub: your task is to figure out which of /usr/lib/X11/xkb, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb, and /usr/share/X11/xkb needs to be added as a symlink to /etc/X11/xkb [07:06] ha ha [07:06] jdub@ubuntu:~$ find /usr/lib/X11/xkb [07:06] /usr/lib/X11/xkb [07:07] BIM-BOW! [07:07] is it a symlink? [07:07] yes [07:07] to /etc/X11/xkb [07:07] jdub: what about /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb? [07:07] as is /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb [07:08] /usr/share/X11/xkb DOES NOT EXIST! [07:08] WE HAVE A WINNER! [07:08] try making that as a symlink and restarting X [07:08] if it doesn't work, I'm going to be very disappointed, because that's what fixed it for me [07:08] although I'm using a new, crazy, libX11 on my desktop [07:08] ... [07:09] not working? [07:09] hold on, doing it with just X [07:09] still get all those errors [07:09] argh [07:09] same thing [07:10] i'll reconfigure and try again [07:11] jdub: ok, for some reason the symbols aren't being found [07:11] you definitely have /etc/X11/xkb/symbols with lots of files in it? [07:11] including ... srvr_ctrl [07:11] lots of files [07:12] $ find /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/ | grep ctrl [07:12] /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/ctrl [07:12] /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/srvr_ctrl [07:13] argh [07:13] btw, why are we bothering to go modular for this release? [07:14] because it will make updating everything no longer hard [07:14] the monolithic tree is a serious pain in my arse [07:14] in terms of maintaining it both throughout the development cycle and when released [07:14] mmm [07:15] this isn't a modular-tree fuckup, btw [07:15] i haven't got to touching xkb yet [07:15] heh [07:15] this will be a /usr/X11R6 -> /usr problem [07:19] jdub: sorry to interupt, but are you Jeff Waugh? [07:19] blahrus: yes [07:20] i don't think you're interrupting though [07:20] daniel is eating caviar or something [07:20] cool, i just bored reading through planet.gnome.com [07:20] saw Jeff Waugh . . . [07:20] and jdub under it . . . [07:20] you were *bored* while reading planet gnome? [07:20] you came to tell me this?! ;-) [07:21] hahahah [07:21] I mean I was done planing online poker for the night, and not ready to watch a movie [07:21] that sound better :) [07:21] heh === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [07:21] jdub: you're a celebrity! [07:22] i'm a floating head. === bob2 gets out the fish food [07:22] in the geeky world yea :) (still reading blogs trying to find what he does) [07:22] :) [07:23] well if that the case all the planet.gnome guys are [07:23] jdub: oh man [07:23] jdub: i want caviar now. damnit. [07:23] jdub: (not yet eaten today.) [07:26] stop thinking of fish babies and help fix my X ;) [07:29] well its night time here, good luck with x === sabdfl [~mark@host217-37-231-22.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [07:32] jdub: yeah, I'm trying to work through it === ealden [~ealden@219.90.92.175] has joined #ubuntu-devel === astro76 [~james@astro76.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel === thoreauputic_ [~prospero@wolax6-214.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:19] jdub: i've got no idea, sorry, and need to head off now [08:19] ok === gbon121 [~chatzilla@d81-211-188-209.cust.tele2.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === ska-fan [~ska-fan@dsl-084-059-065-121.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hsprang [~henning@d081122.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === MagnusR [~magru@as1-1-7.t.lk.bonet.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jlj [~agp@131.165.177.65] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Simira [~Simira@140.80-202-212.nextgentel.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ironwolf [~ironwolf@c-24-6-169-124.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mvo [~egon@ip181.135.1511I-CUD12K-01.ish.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Danten [~danten@h56n6c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jlj [~agp@131.165.177.65] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jlj [~agp@131.165.177.65] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mvo [~egon@ip181.135.1511I-CUD12K-01.ish.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mvo [~egon@ip181.135.1511I-CUD12K-01.ish.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mkde [Matt@mdke.user] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === zeedo [~zeedo@www.reboot-robot.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stuNNed [~implosion@stunned.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jlj [~agp@131.165.177.65] has joined #ubuntu-devel === csj [~csj@218-164-170-144.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ogra [~ogra@212.33.141.9] has joined #ubuntu-devel === motaboy [~motaboy@host142-39.pool80182.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === alerim [~alerim@courbevoie-104-1-146.net1.nerim.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Simira [~Simira@140.80-202-212.nextgentel.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === seb128 [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-26-16.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Simira [~Simira@140.80-202-212.nextgentel.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === herzi [~herzi@d079178.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ska-fan [~ska-fan@dsl-084-059-065-121.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === terrex [~terrex@84-122-69-8.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sivang [~pooh@cablep-179-87-196.cablep.bezeqint.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:56] hmm anyone here want to sponsor my gaim breezy 1.3.1 package? === svenl [~luther@AStrasbourg-251-1-75-78.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === carlos [~carlos@69.Red-80-33-181.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === SloMoSnail [~slomo@p5487F390.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:19] Mez: gaim?? I thought you were doing konversation! [01:19] I did gaim aswell [01:19] I was bored [01:20] anything i backport that isnt in breezy I compile for breezy too [01:21] :P === SloMo_ [~slomo@p5487F390.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:24] well, gaim just needs a merge. [01:24] yeah thats what I've done :d [01:25] so if anyone wants to sponsor it [01:25] lemme know === Safari_Al [~tr@ppp241-50.lns2.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === susus [~sz@p5089D03E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === marcin_ant [~marcin@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === doko [~doko___@dsl-082-082-196-074.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zyga [~zyga@87-mia-9.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:47] hello [01:47] what are the chances of commiting a translation for a totally untranslated package (for a given language) into hoary? === Nafallo [~nafallo@nafallo.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === pitti [~pitti@195.227.105.180] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:03] Hi [02:05] hi pitti :-) === froud [~sean@ndn-165-159-81.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === froud [~sean@ndn-165-159-81.telkomadsl.co.za] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === alerim_ [~alerim@courbevoie-103-1-149.net1.nerim.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sivang [~pooh@cablep-179-87-196.cablep.bezeqint.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === Keybuk [~scott@descent.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:52] damn I've got apps compiling but not executing again [02:52] lo [02:52] hows C++ stuff in breezy ? [02:52] l [02:53] nevermind [02:54] :) time to have some fun ;) [03:05] ooh-err [03:06] evening keybuk [03:06] afternoon [03:07] btw, out of curioity, whereabout sin birmingham do you live [03:10] that's if you dont mind me asking (and i'll understand if you do) === _konrad [~konrad@ark10.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:13] <_konrad> what are you plannig for next release? I read how-to, but it is too long to be true? I know ablout d-nut, new kernel, something BIG more? [03:14] _konrad: http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDownUnder/BreezyGoals [03:15] <_konrad> Nafallo: but it is too good to be true :) === jsgotangco [jerome57@dialup-222-126-75-221.infocom.ph] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:15] Mez: Bordesley Green [03:15] not exactly the most fashionable area ;) [03:15] _konrad: stuff might still get deferred. [03:16] lol - Keybuk - sounds better than me === _konrad [~konrad@ark10.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Konversation] [03:16] where abouts are you? [03:16] I'm living next to the spaghetti junction (literally) [03:17] (aka erdongton) === DanielN [~kodiak@80-218-243-68.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:18] btwm, has the C+_+ transition been completed yet [03:18] <\sh> no === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:19] ah right, I know Erdington === jlj [~agp@131.165.177.65] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:31] evening keybuk === DanielN [~daniel@80-218-243-68.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:32] AndyFitz: eh-oh [03:33] how goes the UK morning ? [03:37] AndyFitz, hey [03:37] jsgotangco, hi mate [03:37] AndyFitz, how goes the weekend [03:38] long weekends are always good. ;) I'm back from a friends 21st quite early actually. so its a lazy one . how's yours going? [03:39] not bad, i had a few pints with some friends i just logged in to reply to emails and svn [03:39] btw, are you still doing that icon set === terrex [~terrex@84-122-69-8.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === eruin [~eruin@213-145-179-140.dd.nextgentel.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jlj [~agp@131.165.177.65] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:44] gaah [03:44] my colume up/down buttons are screwed since yesterday. [03:44] they seem to change style of the desktop instead :-/ [03:46] heh [03:46] oh well good night all and enjoy the weekend [03:50] jsgotangco, yes. and ciao! [03:50] AndyFitz: is afternoon here now === Burgundavia [~corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:19] m4/libs.m4:47: error: m4_defn: undefined macro: _m4_divert_diversion [04:19] autoconf/general.m4:1442: AC_ARG_VAR is expanded from... [04:19] m4/libs.m4:47: the top level [04:19] autom4te: /usr/bin/m4 failed with exit status: 1 [04:19] ... === Keybuk looks that up in the translation [04:20] ah yes "you forgot a [ at the start of a defun" [04:20] lol - Keybuk, lucky you, I dont know Erdingotn and I live here [04:20] sometimes I think tla got its error reporting from autoconf :p [04:23] Has anyone heard of Ubuntu CD's delaminating? [04:23] my Warty live is delaminating [04:26] AndyFitz: btw, I'm naming the next dpkg release after you :p [04:27] Scott, there's a dodgy reason behind it I'm sure [04:27] not especially. Jeff made me name 1.13.9 "In like Flynn", so the only logical name for 1.13.10 is "On like Donkey Kong" === lu|dinner is now known as lu|away [04:30] lol [04:30] cd ../../exports/lib && ln -s ../../lib/Xss/libXss.a . [04:30] *** glibc detected *** corrupted double-linked list: 0x0006f948 *** [04:30] /bin/sh: line 1: 27741 Aborted make -C $i -w all === lamont-away glares at daniels [04:31] daniels: not because it's your fault, mind you === `anthony [~anthony@220-253-4-229.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:39] jdub, ping === weazle_ [~weazle@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === weazle_ is now known as weazle === bradb [~bradb@modemcable082.64-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Loevborg [foobar@d36-75.dip.isp-service.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ogra [~ogra@212.33.141.9] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Alessio [~Alessio@host103-28.pool8253.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === MagnusR [~magru@as1-1-7.t.lk.bonet.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:14] c++ gurus: is partial specialisation of function templates really not possible with g++? [05:21] find: ./debian/konversation/usr/share/locale: No such file or directory [05:21] dh_builddeb: command returned error code 256 [05:21] make: *** [binary-makedeb-IMPL/konversation] Error 1 [05:21] ****************************************************************************** [05:21] Build finished at 20050611-1550 [05:21] FAILED [dpkg-buildpackage died] [05:22] GRR [05:25] hmm, can someone xplain this ? [05:25] ogra@honk:~ $ lsmod |grep nvidia [05:25] ogra@honk:~ $ glxgears [05:25] 1390 frames in 5.0 seconds = 278.000 FPS [05:25] nvidia-driver not loaded? [05:25] not even installed [05:25] since i use breezy [05:25] (there is no l-r-m package yet) [05:26] that's why you get softare rendering [05:26] so where's the problem? [05:26] normally it shouldnt render at all.... [05:26] why? [05:26] i never saw a nvidia card rendering any 3D stuff with the nv driver [05:26] it doesn't [05:26] the CPU does [05:27] yeh you can do softwre gl [05:27] argh, damned... sure.... [05:27] positive [05:27] at 278 fps [05:27] it so software gl [05:27] :D [05:27] nvidia-glx exchanges the mesa libs... [05:27] dun matter [05:27] it just works [05:27] yes, and this exchanged file is, what breaky software render === jlj [~agp@131.165.177.65] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:27] (in fact its the only content of this package) [05:27] thats alli can tell you [05:28] KaiL_, exactly :) [05:28] i was just astonished to get no error abou missing glx... but normally i have the nvidia driver installed to be able to switch if needed :) [05:29] we should provide 2.6.12 packages for hoary after it gets released, including new X drivers [05:29] the 2.6.10 starts to become problematic, esp. the hd audio on Centrino2 Laptops [05:30] huh ? why that ? did the HW change ? [05:30] it's totally unsupported [05:30] so it is brandnew ? [05:30] yes === pitti [~pitti@195.227.105.180] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:31] then lets support it with the brandnew release ;) [05:31] hi [05:31] Centrino2 started to sell in April [05:31] hey pitti [05:31] KaiL_, sure... and we will support it in oct... [05:32] quite bad imho [05:32] hey pitti [05:32] not as bad as breaking a stable distribution :) [05:33] centrino2? [05:33] what's that ;] [05:33] I only thought about an optional 2.6.12 [05:34] zyga: intel i915 Chipset, 533MHz FSB, HD Audio... [05:34] googling [05:35] KaiL_, and how do you make sure udev, HAL, hotplug, the soundserver, pcmcia ..... etc pp work safe with it ? [05:35] ogra: that's why I said _optional_ [05:35] as the kde 3.4.1 on kubuntu.org [05:37] and I already have the breezy kernel installed on several hoary systems - to fix kernel related problems [05:37] KaiL_, thats like backporting glibc from breezy to hoary === jbailey blinks. [05:38] bad enough, that I don't have such a laptop to see, if the kernel alone is enough === jbailey scrolls back and reads. === Mithrandir tickles jbailey === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === siretart would be happy with a hoary kernel with updated ipw drivers for supporting wpa [05:40] ipw2100 or 2200? [05:41] KaiL_: ipw2100 === enrico [~enrico@enrico.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:41] but isnt the 2100 802.11b which doesnt do wpa? [05:41] i thought that was an 802.11g thing? === ups [~ups@203.200.160.53] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:42] Lathiat: wpa seems to work with newer ipw2100 drivers (according to the wpasupplicant readme) [05:42] interesting [05:43] I suspect that the firmware in hoarys kernel don't support wpa. but i'm not sure [05:43]