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ifwith apt-ge12:00
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Seveasif, apt-get install linux-source12:00
GNULinuxerchaps0063, normally it'd be blue, but when you compile or something, it'd be green12:00
ifSeveas thnx12:00
xingmui'm using Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050526 Firefox/1.0 (Ubuntu package 1.0.4) and having some plugins like SwitchProxy and TabBrowser Preferences installed12:00
chaps0063GNULinuxer, how do I get the cpufreq panel applet, is that for gnome?12:00
Seveaschaps0063, rightclick on the panel, select add to panel and look for it12:01
GNULinuxerchaps0063, yes, it's for gnome12:01
Seveasit's called "CPU Frequency scaling monitor"12:01
chaps0063is there something similar for kde?12:02
TokenBadSeveas, I got apt-get to work for getting java by adding a couple sites to the list file...and then doing sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.512:02
thenukechaps0063: gnome12:02
Seveaschaps0063, no idea, maybe the folks in #kubuntu know it12:02
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TuxicityHelp, I cant connect to www.google.com in Firefox.12:02
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thenukechaps0063: oh I did not read your previous question :P12:02
SeveasTokenBad, ah hoary-extras from backports?12:02
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SeveasTuxicity, dns lookup timeout?12:02
chaps0063thenuke, hehe.12:02
apollo2011How do I find out where my internal modem is?12:03
Seveasapollo2011, open your pc and look :)12:03
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TokenBadyeah think so12:03
TokenBaddeb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ hoary java12:03
TokenBadand 2 others12:04
TokenBadand it downloaded it fine12:04
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ompaulseveas this looks like it about to try it out :) username all=(ifup) nopasswd12:04
refuze2loozehow do i force my CDRom drive to eject?12:04
Seveasrefuze2looze, eject /dev/hdc12:04
Razor-Xrefuze2looze: eject /dev/hdc12:04
TuxicitySeveas: I dont know. Everytime I try to connect to google.com, Firestarter blocks "Sun-RPC portmap"... What is this?12:04
Razor-Xerrr, uhhhmmm, there you are ;)12:05
hondjeTuxicity: Do you have an nfs server running or smoething?12:05
refuze2loozethanks12:05
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Tuxicityhondje: AFAIK I have no NFS server running12:05
apollo2011no seriously, how do I find out what /dev/... entry it is12:06
hondjeTuxicity: hrm, try ps aux | grep portmap, see if it's running12:06
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LinuxJonesapollo2011, >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DialupModemHowto12:07
Tuxicityhondje: doesnt seem like it12:08
apollo2011LinuxJones; That doesn't help because it only tells you how to detect external or use /dev/modem which I tried and didn't work12:08
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hondjeTuxicity: then it beats the hell out of me why you get that :)12:08
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TokenBadhe I was going to download azureus for linux but what version to get?12:09
apollo2011kppp can not find:12:09
apollo2011/dev/modem12:09
thoreauputicapollo2011: I assume this is a winmodem (internal) ?12:10
apollo2011I guess so...12:10
[freebsdExcuse me, I need help with a wireless card. I grabbed the working NDISWRAPPER installation .deb, installed it, and yay. My card is a Belkin G, F5D7010, and I already got the Drivers. Its PCMCIA, and I loaded it with -i.. I tried both the .sys, and the .inf, but both say Invalid Driver with -l. I've tried rebooting. Modprobe ndiswrapper complains that the Operation of inserting NDISWrapper isn't permitted. Any ideas?12:10
naliothTokenBad: any version will do12:10
thoreauputicapollo2011: if so, the driver should assign /dev/modem - do you *know* it's supported?12:10
thoreauputicapollo2011: if not, visit linmodems.org, and good luck12:11
TokenBadso linux gtx would work?12:11
Tuxicityhondje: I cant even load any website that has Google ads!12:11
TokenBador linux motif?12:11
thoreauputicapollo2011: buying a second hand hardware serial external modem will save you a lot of time and grief12:11
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TokenBador linux ppc?12:12
naliothTokenBad: linux gtk12:12
Razor-Xget gtk12:12
Razor-Xmotif is... ugghhh12:12
Razor-Xbut, let me warn you, Azureus has a bug where it eats the whole CPU12:12
TokenBadok12:12
chileverdeand ppc is.. mac12:12
[freebsdPPC > You.12:12
hondjeFor now12:12
naliothbut java is java12:13
Razor-Xchileverde: not really, Mac will be ported to the x8612:13
nalioth a jar is a jar is a jar12:13
Razor-X[freebsd: the processor yes, the OS, no ;)12:13
TokenBadwhats a bz2 file?12:13
[freebsdlol12:13
[freebsdIts a compressed package12:13
naliothi run jar files on my mac all the time12:13
Razor-Xnalioth: btdownloadcurses is being a bitch12:13
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[freebsdlike a Zip, or a tar12:13
naliothTokenBad: it ws made with bzip2 (a file compressor)12:13
Razor-Xbz2 == BZip212:13
Razor-Xyeah12:13
TokenBadopen it with gunzip?12:13
naliothRazor-X: so smack that bitch up12:13
[freebsdCan anyone help me with this Ndiswrapper issue?12:14
naliothTokenBad: bunzip212:14
Razor-Xnalioth: wish I could ;)12:14
adnans[freebsd, try ndiswrapper from CVS12:14
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Razor-XI can't get any speed on it, and have ports 6881-6899 on my router forwarded12:14
[freebsdadnans, would that require a full kernel rebuild?12:14
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sm-afkhi all, what should I enter in Preferred Applications to open a compose window with running thunderbird ?12:15
Razor-Xplus, it seems, the UPnP support sucks #^$*12:15
adnans[freebsd, checkout from CVS, then execute ndiswrapper/debian/rules binary, install the resulting .deb's12:15
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adnans[freebsd, nope, just the kernel-headers of your current kernel12:15
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naliothRazor-X: the devil with port forwarding, DMZ your whole machine12:15
shinuwhy doesnt my 'FLCL' folder show up when i do [tab]  but i can cd into it when i type out the full name myself?12:16
Razor-Xahhh, linux, surfing the web in a graphical browser, an ssh shell, music playing, all while an updatedb is in the background ;)12:16
konradHi, can you send me default /etc/modules? I've removed it :P12:16
Razor-Xnalioth: no, i'ld rather not ;)12:16
Turoqkonrad haha :D12:16
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naliothRazor-X: why not? linux is 99% bulletproof (from script kiddies)12:16
Razor-Xshinu: not added to the locatedb, is my guess12:16
konradI hope it is not hardware-specific12:16
[freebsdRazor, not true.12:16
chaps0063Is there anyway to adjust the brightness on my lcd on my laptop?12:16
Razor-Xnalioth: but, I don't boot into Linux 100%12:16
Lafitte-i need help with wireless problem...after screensaver and prompt for password    i loose connection and cant ever get dhcp again12:17
Razor-X[freebsd: go ahead then, I don't use BASH tab-complete myself ;)12:17
Seveaskonrad, http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/6412:17
naliothRazor-X: WHAT? no, j/k12:17
Lafitte-whats command to get dhcp to grab info from router ? i tried ifup eth012:17
Razor-Xnalioth: not my cohice12:17
Razor-X*choice12:17
konradSeveas: thanks12:17
Razor-Xas far as my dad knows, Linux doesen't exist on this machine12:17
naliothRazor-X: so DMZ it while you're in linux12:17
Razor-Xif it did, he'ld kill me12:17
SeveasLafitte-, shclient eth012:18
[freebsdRazor, theres more independent software you have to worry about on Linux, cant say its more secure unless you MAKE it secure12:18
Razor-Xpain in the ass, actually12:18
konradI have another problem, much more important12:18
shinuRazor-X: locatedb? 0.o but i dont think it needs to be in any such thing as other folders show up properly...12:18
konradI can't install newest NVIDIA driver12:18
shinujust this one...12:18
Lafitte-Seveas,  kewl  let me try that12:18
GNULinuxerguys, searching for PHP on synaptic yeilds no results ... is PHP in the ubuntu repo ?12:18
Razor-X[freebsd: but the scope of about 99% of the attacks is targeted to the Windows platform12:18
Seveaskonrad, install the linux-restricted-modules package from ubuntu, it has the latest driver12:18
LinuxJoneskonrad, can't you just stick the the current Hoary driver ?12:18
[freebsdYoud be suprised12:18
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SeveasGNULinuxer, libapache2-mod-php412:18
Razor-Xshinu: run updatedb (it'll take most of your CPU) and then try it12:18
TuxicitySeveas: what was that DNS stuff you were telling me?12:18
Lafitte-Seveas,  doesnt do anything for me12:18
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[freebsdWho would WANT to 'hax0r' someones little PC?12:18
Razor-Xand, enjoy your FLCL ;)12:19
Razor-Xhopefully in VLC ;)12:19
user_hi12:19
konradI had installed from DEB, hehe, I want to test CoolBits :)12:19
SeveasLafitte-, then you have no connection :)12:19
user_I would need help in a strange mount problem12:19
Razor-X(FLCL totally kicks ass)12:19
GNULinuxerSeveas, why won't just PHP yeild any results? suppose I want PHP5 or something ...12:19
konradLinuxJones: oveclocking fun with Coolbits12:19
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Lafitte-Seveas,  i am on it now12:19
SeveasGNULinuxer, have you enabled universe?12:19
tkieselHiya everyone.12:19
chaps0063My brightness keys do not function correctly on my Fujitsu Lifebook T4010 tablet, any ideas?12:19
nalioth[freebsd: ask the groups who run zombie fleets of 30,000 or more PCs on broadband12:19
user_We would like to mount an NTFS partition for all users12:19
[freebsdlol12:19
Seveasand there is no php5 yet in ubuntu12:20
konrad-> Running runtime sanity check:12:20
Lafitte-Seveas,  bash: shclient: command not found12:20
konradERROR: The runtime configuration check failed for library12:20
Seveasdhclient12:20
user_but umask=000 doesn't work12:20
konrad       'libnvidia-tls.so.1.0.7664' (expected:12:20
konrad       '/usr/lib/tls/libnvidia-tls.so.1', found:12:20
konrad       '/usr/lib/libnvidia-tls.so.1').  The most likely reason for this is that12:20
konrad       conflicting OpenGL libraries are installed in a location not inspected12:20
konrad       by `nvidia-installer`.  Please be sure you have uninstalled any12:20
konrad       third-party OpenGL and third-party graphics driver packages.12:20
konrad-> done.12:20
konrad-> Runtime sanity check failed.12:20
user_the hdd is on RAID we think this is the problem12:20
ifhow install ati video drivers12:20
Seveaskonrad, do NOT paste in here!12:20
user_promise fasttrak 100 tx2 ata raid pci controller12:20
Seveasif: http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/RestrictedFormats12:20
Razor-Xuser_: umask=022212:20
naliothuser_: you do know that writing to NTFS partitions is not suggestable yet (can cause permanent data loss)12:20
Seveasif: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto12:20
GNULinuxerSeveas, how do I enable universe ?12:20
Razor-Xerr, wait, writing?12:21
Seveassorry, just the last one12:21
user_yes I know12:21
Razor-XI thought you meant reading...12:21
SeveasGNULinuxer: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto12:21
user_we would like it for reading only12:21
user_but only root sees it now12:21
Razor-Xthen, umask=022212:21
thenukeGNULinuxer: www.ubuntuguide.org12:21
konradSeveas: Sorry :D12:21
user_thanks, giving a try12:21
Lafitte-Seveas,   oh  you typoes    heh e12:21
Seveasthenuke, ubuntuguide is wrong...12:21
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thenukeSeveas: oh :o ?12:22
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Lafitte-Seveas,  aww seems the same as ifup command does12:22
SeveasLafitte-, yes12:22
konradSeveas: do you have some ideas? of course I have uninstalled all DEBs with nvidia driver12:22
Seveasif you have eth0 inet dhcp in /etc/network/interfaces, ifup just calles dhclient12:22
Lafitte-Seveas,  thanks  ill try this next time it happens (usually need reboot)12:22
Seveaskonrad, you should not use a driver fron nvidia.com12:23
cyphaseI've gone camping. Talk to everyone later. Leave me a message if you want.12:23
tkieselAnyone had trouble getting packages from marillat?12:23
Seveastkiesel, marillat should no longer be used, causes dependency problems12:24
GNULinuxerSeveas, thenuke thanks a lot ... got it12:24
konradSeveas: why not? OS drivers are crappy, and I always had newest drivers without any problem - I really need 3D acceleraion, and really want to test Coolbits :)12:25
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Seveaskonrad, because the ubuntu package has the latest driver...12:25
tkieselSeveas: Ahh. Okay. I'm prepping a Ubuntu box for a buddy of mine who's new to GNU/Linux. One thing he wants is mp3 support, etc. Where should I go to get some of those packages that were formerly in mariallat?12:25
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thenuketkiesel: did marillat have something to do with mp3 :O12:26
konradSeveas: no, it has 7174, i need 766412:26
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Seveastkiesel, codecs can be found on mplayerhq.hu12:26
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battlecatHi Ubunties!12:26
Seveasmplayer is in ubuntu multiverse12:26
Lafitte-Seveas,  then wy sometimes i require reboot to get eth0 to gather dhcp again ?    it can still scan Ap's12:26
naliothtkiesel: universe and multiverse12:26
LinuxJonestkiesel, you don't need Marillat for mp3 playback12:26
Seveaskonrad, ah then i missed the last update, sorry12:26
battlecatHas anyone noticed that script sites these days are just filled with redundant trash?12:26
chaps0063how do I get my lcd brightness to change based on ac/battery?12:26
thenuketkiesel: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs12:26
tkieselnalioth: Universe and multiverse don't have w32codecs.  Or do they?12:26
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naliothtkiesel: make sure you have your deb-src lines uncommented, in case you have to pkg somethings yourself12:26
Lafitte-chaps0063, ACPI12:27
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konradSeveas: I have newer libc6 in Ubuntu and updated kernel and it works :) a litle tricky12:27
Seveastkiesel, no but mplayerhq has12:27
konradSeveas: nvidia 7664 will be in Hoary or in breeze?12:27
naliothtkiesel: www.mplayerhq.org  and put them in /usr/local/lib/codecs12:27
Seveasonly in breezy12:27
newbie01has anybody an idea how to recover the partition marked in the screenshot ? http://img247.echo.cx/my.php?image=snapshot18gt.png12:28
konradSeveas: need to make some "changes" in /var/lib/dokg/status (and avaiable) and /var/lib/apt/ubuntu(balbla)packages12:28
tkieselthenuke: Yeah, I know that. Doesn't work at present.12:28
chaps0063Lafitte-, i have it, how would I make adjustments with it?12:28
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Firsti_I have installed Eggdrop with apt-get, now I'm trying to start it but it says: "CONFIG FILE NOT LOADED (NOT FOUND, OR ERROR)", where is that config file?12:28
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user_thank u finally managed12:29
user_with umask=012:29
thenukeFirsti_: have you read any documents which came with that eggdrop?12:29
tkieselThanks all. I'll be able to get what I need there. :)12:29
Lafitte-chaps0063,  let me check into it a sec  mine does it with  lightsensor via hardware    dims in dark or what not12:29
Triffid_HunterFirsti_: eggdrop-installer maybe?12:29
SeveasFirsti_, read the documentation, this is not an eggdrop support channel...12:29
konradsystem thinks, that have newer libc6 that it have :)12:29
chaps0063Lafitte-, thanks.12:29
user_we don't understand - but works12:29
Firsti_Where is documents?12:29
Triffid_Hunteron my distro, it installs all the eggdrop stuff in /usr/share, then symlinks it all into individual bot folders12:29
konradnewbie01: what was this partition - fat?12:29
newbie01konrad, ext212:29
SeveasFirsti_, /usr/share/doc/eggdrop, or the eggdrop website (use google)12:29
Triffid_Hunterto save space, and be able to update them all at the same time12:30
shinuRazor-X: updatedb didnt really help... still cant do it...12:30
shinuRazor-X: when i do ls F* it doesnt show up...12:30
newbie01i already asked on #debian but the result was : learn how hard disks are organzied12:30
konradnewbie01: try this :)12:31
tkieselDinner time. Thanks for the help everyone. :)12:31
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konradnewbie01: I am not an expert in this, but it will be very hard to do this12:31
BockBilbohello12:31
newbie01i usually get the point of rtfm but in this case all i need to recover and i dont have any clue of filesystems and that stuff12:31
TokenBadok question12:31
BockBilbowhats the name of the package with the source of the 2.6.10-5 kernel?12:31
flodineanyone got a geforce 5200 nvidia card12:31
TokenBadI am trying to download a torrent file..and save to a mounted drive12:31
TokenBadbut when try it says permission denied12:31
LinuxJonesnewbie01, is there anything of value on that partition ?12:32
konradflodine: i have that one12:32
SeveasTokenBad, make sure you have permission to write on that drive12:32
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flodinekonrad will it do 1900x120012:32
newbie01LinuxJones, yes : 25 high resolution scanns done with a nikon cool scan IV12:32
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Turoqi cant watch any mpg or avi movies, what packages i need to install ?=12:32
NazyrHowdy All12:32
LinuxJonesnewbie01, it's an ext2 partition /12:32
newbie01LinuxJones, and some emails which could get interesting in the court12:33
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newbie01LinuxJones, yes12:33
konradflodine: hehe, mymonitor works only with 1024x768 - don't ask me for that, check in documentation and on website :)12:33
thenukeTuroq: http://www.ubuntuguide.org12:33
thenukeTuroq: check that for codecs12:33
Turoqk12:33
Nazyranyone know what would be causing a Kernel Panic - not syncing error?12:33
LinuxJonesnewbie01, do you have windows installed ?12:33
konradflodine: probably yes, if you had this in windows, in Linux will work too12:33
newbie01LinuxJones, yes i ve got a win2k system somewhere12:33
TokenBaddrwxr-xr-x12:33
TokenBadthats the dir settings12:33
LinuxJonesnewbie01, you don't have partition magic per chance ?12:34
konradnewbie01: i have program to recover data from ext2, for windows, but never tested12:34
flodinekonrad ok my ubuntu wont come up im on xp and im dieing12:34
TokenBaddrwxr-xr-x12:34
TokenBadthats my dir settings12:34
TokenBadlook same to me12:34
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newbie01newbie01, i see the chance to get it recovered much bigger with linux since its an ext 212:34
newbie01@ LinuxJones12:34
konradflodine: black screen? have you tried to do: crtol+alt+-12:34
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konradflodine: left cotrl and alt and - (minus)12:35
pfpare there any azureus users here? how much is your memory consumption typically?12:35
konradflodine: it wil change resolution to lower12:35
thenukeTuroq: oh and just about _everyone_ who is directed to follow that guide, skips the 2. part of those guidelines when it says "Read How to add extra repositories?" .. so please do that also before asking what to do when the thrid line of the quote wont work :D12:35
Nazyrcan anyone help with a issue on a AMD64 NForce4 installation problem?12:35
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flodinewell i want to run it at 1900x120012:35
konradflodine: or better reconfigure your Xorg12:35
Turoqthenuke roger :P12:36
naliothNazyr: we need to know the problem12:36
konradflodine: too hight resolution - I have to go, ask for this12:36
ifhow can i get kernel source with apt-get12:36
konradflodine: ask how to change resolution refresh rate in xorg in ubuntu with dpkg-reconfigure12:36
pfpif: apt-cache search kernel source12:36
konradflodine: and find your monitor documentation - wil need it12:36
TokenBadSeveas, my home dir which I can write to..12:36
flodinebut the card dont support my size12:37
TokenBadand the dir that I want to write to12:37
NazyrNalioth: I was able to get the base installation finished .. but before I can install ATI drivers I get a kernel panic - not syncing error and system is then frozen12:37
konradbye12:37
TokenBadhave the same settings12:37
LinuxJonesif, for current version sudo apt-get install linux-source-$(uname -r)12:37
TokenBadso how can I write to it12:37
thoreauputicif: apt-cache search linux-source actually12:37
naliothNazyr: i run PPC machines, but someone in here (perhaps now perhaps later) can help12:37
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Nazyrthanks Nalioth12:38
gabachocan anyone help me with icecast2?12:38
TokenBadhow man I make sure i have write access to a dir?12:38
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naliothTokenBad: use google "mounting partitions linux fstab"12:39
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gabachoany help here?12:40
TokenBadnalioth,  the drive is mounted12:40
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TokenBadand I can see it in my root terminal12:40
NetGeekis security.archive.ubuntu.com down also?12:41
TokenBadbut if I using a program to save to that under my user account12:41
naliothTokenBad: but is it mounted with full 'all-user' read/write priveleges?12:41
Equinox_One of my disks is acting badly(root fs) but I have two other ide disks (/dev/hda /dev/hdb).. I want to copy the data to one of them but in the fsck shell at boot time I can't mount them12:41
TokenBadI think so12:41
Equinox_The devices don't exist, my thernet card doesn't exist12:41
Equinox_Any idea what is going on?12:41
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naliothTokenBad: if so, you should have 0 problems writing data to anywhere12:41
Equinox_I mknod'd them but it says invalid block device when i try to mount it.. Probably something with devfs12:41
Luakagonfirst of all, thank all of you that have highlighted me with helpful information,  I am truly grateful that youve taken the time to help me with my computer problems.  I really need help though, to get my wireless internet working, I am trying to compile ndiswrapper.  I'm open...12:42
calchmm package rgmanager has a good description12:42
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TokenBadhow to tell if it is set to all-user read/write?12:42
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shinugoes vorbis-tools include the ogg-splitter?12:43
thoreauputicTokenBad: users,rw12:43
naliothTokenBad: do the google12:43
FR500Luakagon, i did that 2 days ago12:43
FR500Luakagon, whats the prob?12:43
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LuakagonI'lll privmsg you12:44
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TokenBadI did12:44
TokenBadthe page only talks about floppys and cdroms12:44
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naliothTokenBad: i do not have a x86 machine in front of me, but i've set up 3 clients in the last 3 weeks using fstab data i found via google, no client has had any trobule with their systems12:45
naliothTokenBad: there are far more links than cdroms and floppys12:45
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thoreauputicTokenBad: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html12:46
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TokenBadok how come I don't see the mounted drive in fstab?12:47
TokenBadbut I can access the drive?12:47
TokenBadand even send files from that drive12:47
flodinecan someone tell me will ubuntu support 1900x1200 or not12:47
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naliothTokenBad: YOU have to edit the fstab12:48
thoreauputicTokenBad: either you are misreading fstab, or you need to add an entry12:48
naliothTokenBad: and if you can read/write to the drive now, i don't have a clue why you can't write to a certain directory on it12:48
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newbie01still the partition recover topic here : http://pastebin.com/298634 is the result of testdrive "deep search" / http://img247.echo.cx/my.php?image=snapshot18gt.png  where the marked partition is the one i need to recover. really need help12:50
xryDoes Ubuntu Live-CD support shred?12:51
naliothxry: r u using the livecd now?12:51
xryno, downloading..12:51
naliothxry: if so, open a terminal and type "shred" w/o any arguments12:51
xryThanks..12:51
FR500HrdwrBoB, you told me how to set KSRC to the correct path the other day, do you remember how?12:51
xryIs shred secure? Don't want people to read my data after formatting ;)12:52
Turoqhmm i installed those codecs but now when i open .avi, i hear sounds but i dont see anything12:52
thoreauputicxry: given that the live CD is a virtual clone of an install, and the install includes shred, my guess is yes12:52
naliothxry: to use shred properly, it takes days12:52
thoreauputicxry: depends how paranoid you want to be12:53
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xrySo shred is secure? Just you have to use it right?12:53
marshHey! I've written a script, but I'm a bit noob... could someone have a look and tell me why I'm getting a list of all the vars on my system before it does it's work???12:53
naliothxry: depending on the amount of data you are using it on, proper use can take days12:53
thoreauputicxry: you can also overwrite with random data and or zeros12:53
xrySending my (almost) defective harddrive back to the shop i got it from, just wanted to format it secure first12:53
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marshxry - can you not just dd it with random numbers?12:54
naliothxry: easiest way is industrial magnet12:54
xryThen i found Active Killdisk, but it doesn't support SATA, then someone told me about ubuntu and shred12:54
naliothxry: shred will do the trick12:54
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xryLive-CD have built in drivers for SATA?12:55
TokenBadok12:55
TokenBadI edited fstab12:55
marshNo-one up for helping me with me script? it's only little... :o(...12:55
TokenBaddo I need to reboot for it to work?12:55
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thoreauputicTokenBad:  just type sudo mount -a12:55
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naliothTokenBad: no, just issue a mount command (unmount your drive if it is already mounted)12:56
TokenBadok12:56
draskohi all. How to go to the gnome applications menu in nautilus... Writing applications:// don't work12:57
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Grumblyeep12:57
Razor-Xhmmm... I don't know if it's good for my sister's development by letting her listen to Japanese music at such an early age....12:57
Grumblyhey, I am needin' some help configuring a g4 cube12:57
Grumblyanybody versed?12:58
Razor-Xg4 cube?12:58
Grumblyyep.12:58
TokenBadwhen try umount12:58
Razor-Xa 4th dimensional cube?12:58
TokenBadit says device is busy12:58
Razor-XTokenBad: that's because something is using it, of course12:58
GrumblyRazor-X: no- a macintosh with a g4 ppc processor12:58
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Razor-XGrubly: ahhh, ;)12:59
TokenBadright but don't have anything going but my terminal12:59
TokenBadand xcat12:59
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TokenBadxchat12:59
naliothGrumbly: whatcha got?12:59
dhruvi need help, can anyone help?12:59
Razor-Xsorry, I don't know much about PPC processors myself, other than they're kickass and have a shitload of registers12:59
GrumblyAfter installation, NO GDM.  says it's not configured correctly12:59
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Razor-XTokenBad: xchat could be running in the mount directory, or one of your terminals can be too12:59
Grumblynalioth: g4 450mhz Cube.  ATI vid card, but not a good one01:00
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naliothGrumbly: using hoary?01:00
dhruv<-------------------------------- NEEDS HELP!!01:00
Razor-Xdhruv: shoot01:00
Grumblyyeah01:00
Grumblythats the new one, right?01:00
dhruvi downloaded limewire, and installed it01:00
Razor-Xnalioth: hmm, I was toying with an idea of making a counter for the newbie gods, for every person we help, we add 1 ;)01:00
dhruvi now see it in applications>internet>limewire01:01
dhruvbut it wont run01:01
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dhruvwhy?01:01
Razor-Xand by the end of the day, whoever helps the most, they get bragging rights ;)01:01
Grumblythe error it gives me is something about cyrillic, but I didnt even set that up01:01
naliothGrumbly: follow this and choose vesa instead of ati  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:01
naliothRazor-X: that is so gauche01:01
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dhruvrazor do you know why?01:01
Razor-Xleft-handed?01:02
sascha_hi, how can I change the standard language of my system?01:02
hondjehehe01:02
Razor-Xdhruv: hmmm01:02
Luakagongauche means ackward too01:02
Razor-Xtype limewire in a console01:02
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hondje"I did something that didnt' work. why didn't it work." :)01:02
psychonate|awayHas anyone set up a Voodoo 2 in Ubuntu?01:02
dhruvwhere is the console01:02
dhruvthe terminal?01:02
Razor-XLuakagon: heh, well, haven't heard it used it too often01:02
naliothdhruv: try gtk-gnutella instead of limewire01:02
Razor-Xdhruv: uh, yeah, sorry01:02
flodinecan someone tell me will ubuntu support 1900x1200 or not01:02
Razor-Xflodine: yeah, it does01:03
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naliothflodine: yes01:03
thoreauputicflodine: I guess that depends on your vid card more than on Ubuntu per se01:03
Razor-Xnalioth: even using bittornado's btdownloadcurses doesen't help01:03
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dhruvrazor x where do i get that?01:03
geneo93well i got my kppp issue fixed01:03
naliothRazor-X: help what?01:03
flodinewill a nvidia fx 5200 work01:03
Razor-Xdhruv: click terminal, and type 'limewire'01:03
Razor-Xnalioth: speed01:03
dhruvi did01:03
hondjeflodine: probably, if you monitor supports that01:03
dhruvit said its not a command01:04
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Razor-Xwhat ports does it use by default?01:04
hondjeI can't imagine that resolution and not being at like 60Hz though01:04
Razor-Xdhruv: try "locate *limewire*"01:04
dhruvlimewire?01:04
geneo93dhruv:  is it a jar file01:04
Razor-Xno, not limewire, I was asking nalioth01:04
sascha_can anybody help with languagechange please?01:04
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hondjesascha_: I missed it, summarize?01:05
jindThe sound in gnome does not work. Does anybody know of a fix? The problem is only in Gnome.01:05
dhruvthere is only a       xml01:05
dhruvlimewire.xml01:05
dhruvthats it01:05
jindBtw, I use Hoary01:05
Razor-Xhmmm....01:05
thoreauputicsascha_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales01:05
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Cal[] JohnGuys, how to I run python programs?  Sorry, i'm brand new.01:05
Cal[] John*how do i01:05
Razor-Xthe shitty thing about locate is that, the database is updated so infrequently............01:05
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naliothRazor-X: 6881, but you should change it in the rc file to 43000>01:05
sascha_hondje, I would like to change my standard language for ONE user to english01:05
Razor-XCal[] John: type in the name of the program, and of you go01:05
geneo93python (file)01:05
Razor-Xnalioth: hmmm, I see01:05
dhruvRAzor X, so what do i use to download music01:05
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hondjesascha_: easy enough01:06
Razor-Xdhruv: quite a few things01:06
naliothdhruv: gtk-gnutella01:06
dhruvhow do i get that?01:06
Cal[] Johnhmmm, must be something wrong with were the install put it01:06
geneo93nicotine01:06
dhruvhow do i download gtk gnutella01:06
Luakagongood question Cal[] John :D01:06
Razor-Xdhruv: emule, Gnutella (same network as Limewire), BitTorrent, and others01:06
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dhruvemule is slow as hell01:06
sascha_hondje, ??01:06
dhruvim downloading at .901:06
naliothdhruv: use synaptic01:06
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Razor-Xdhruv: not if you download it for a while01:07
dhruvkk01:07
dhruvits been downloading for a while01:07
Cal[] JohnLuakagon: sorry  it's just that I googled and googled, but there wasn't anywhere that actually said :)01:07
dhruvas time goes by and im getting close to finnishing, it gets slower and slower01:07
Razor-Xthe thing that most people don't try and understand about emule is that, you have to share for about a day, or so, before speeds pick up01:07
LuakagonI dont know either is why I said its a good question01:07
Razor-Xbut then, _all_ your downloads speeds will increase01:07
Razor-Xthe longer you keep sharing files, and uploading, the higher your speed will get01:08
hondjesascha_: sudo apt-get install language-support-en language-pack-en language-pack-en-base01:08
moquiRazor-X, why is that? is there a point system?01:08
jason^hey dudes, in gaim, sounds are not playing right, they only play like half of a second or so, is there any fix for that?01:08
hondjesascha_: then you should be able to pick english as your language in the GDM login screen01:08
Razor-Xit's a strictly give-get relationship, which most people don't like, because they do the getting part, and not a giving part01:08
Razor-Xmoqui: very useful if you like to stay on a P2P 24/701:08
sascha_hondje, hmmmm, going to try01:08
moquiRazor-X, so you get something like karma points for staying on and sharing longer01:09
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dhruvrazor is the gnetuella thing like the give-get thing too?01:10
KleggasI just installed apache2 with php4 following http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/LAMPForHoary and it doesn't work. anyone have any idea whats missing in that page?01:10
naliothdhruv: bittorrent is the give-get thang01:11
dhruvwtf... razor just said emule is01:11
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dhruvmy download keeps going slower and slower on emule, im at freaking .4 right now01:11
moquinalioth, bittorrent is good for downloading the latest distros01:11
thoreauputicKleggas: interesting that you make the assumption it's the page that is wrong...01:11
naliothmoqui: indeed it is01:12
Kleggasthechitowncubs: sure, why not? it says how to install it, and it doesn't work :p01:12
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Gushello01:12
moquihello Gus01:12
naliothmoqui: and creative-commons licensed videos and audio01:12
moquinalioth, absolutely01:12
hondjeI hate when people say that crap, like it's not an obvious lie nalioth :P01:12
thoreauputicKleggas: It must be great to be infallible ... ;-)01:12
moqui:)01:13
Kleggasthoreauputic: nah, sometimes it is, sometimes not01:13
naliothhondje: i have to set a good example in here01:13
Kleggasthechitowncubs: any idea what to do or u just sit here and talk?01:13
naliothhondje: no matter how seedy and depraved my personal life is01:13
hondjewell, can't argue with that :)01:13
Gusi'm trying to install firefox's plugin for totem, but everytime i load a file, it says "cannot open fd:\\0" or something...01:13
Gusanyone have any idea for me ? =)01:14
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Gusi've tried following this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=23257&page=2 but instead of just not working for GIFs it doesn't work for anything =/01:15
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Tallia1[UbuntU] 2hi guys, i'm andrea. i need a hand about a problem with psnup..... lately it happens that if i wanna print a multipage of 4 pages it is printed in the following (wrong) layout01:16
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Tallia1[UbuntU] 23 101:16
Tallia1[UbuntU] 24 201:16
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Tallia1[UbuntU] 2but i'd like this layout:01:16
Tallia1[UbuntU] 21 201:16
psychonate|awayDoes Hoary use devfs?01:16
Tallia1[UbuntU] 23 401:16
thoreauputicTallia1[UbuntU] 2: just a guess: portrait vs landscape?01:17
Tallia1[UbuntU] 2nope..01:17
godberanyone seen an md5sum mismatch error with bluez-utils off of the us mirrors?01:17
Tallia1[UbuntU] 2the layouts i've just shown you is portrait both01:18
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godberlike this01:18
Tallia1[UbuntU] 2are*01:18
godber"Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/b/bluez-pin/bluez-pin_0.24-1_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch"01:18
Gusnoone to help me with totem and firefox ?01:18
thoreauputicTallia1[UbuntU] 2: i meant, hav eyou tried it the other way?01:18
Tallia1[UbuntU] 2?01:18
syndgodber: i got this Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  MD5Sum mismatch01:18
Tallia1[UbuntU] 2what do you mean?01:18
psychonate|awayDoes Hoary use devfs?01:18
nickrudpsychonate no01:18
nickrududev01:18
psychonate|awaythank you01:18
ablyssis it too much to ask what devfs and udev or?01:19
ablyssor/are01:19
thoreauputicTallia1[UbuntU] 2: if you rotate that layout 90 degrees, you have the other one01:19
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ablyssi know what /dev is but.. not udev or devfs01:19
TokenBadok...I mounted and redit it..even rebooted machine01:19
nickrudablyss very broadly, they populate /dev for you automatically01:19
TokenBadand still can't write to that drive01:19
TokenBadI give up01:19
ablyssty01:20
TokenBadnow..01:20
naliothGus: try back later01:20
ablyssnickrud :)01:20
TokenBadhow come it will not init the base sound services01:20
TokenBad?01:20
psychonate|awayHow can I see what groups I am or add myself to a new group?01:20
Gusnalioth, yup, i'll have to do that =P01:20
nickrudablyss devfs is pretty much dead, udev is current01:20
naliothTokenBad: don't give up01:20
ablyssgot it ty01:20
naliothTokenBad: there are many ways to have the line in fstab01:20
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miraclebluemorning01:21
miracleblue^_^01:21
miraclebluewow, is everyone asleep?01:21
rabbit_anyone use vlan?01:22
miraclebluenope, guess not01:22
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zukalkrabbit: you mean vlc?01:22
miraclebluenerf01:22
rabbit_zukalk: yup01:22
zukalksometimes01:22
zukalkbut sometimes it can't read what xine cna01:22
zukalkcan*01:22
miracleblueheya guys, hows it going?01:22
zukalkhey01:23
rabbit_zukalk: when I tried to install it last time it said it was missing libraries, where do you go to get these missing libraries?01:23
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zukalki guess it's the wxWidgets01:23
miracleblueim trying to get ubuntu to play mp3s, and it hates me01:23
zukalkhow did you try to install?01:23
rabbit_zukalk: like ffmepeg and some other stuff01:23
miracleblueit just wont do it01:23
Amaranthmiracleblue: you need the gstreamer-mad package01:23
rabbit_zukalk: with a different distros rpm01:24
zukalkrabbit: did you follow the multimedia steps in ubuntuguide?01:24
naliothmiracleblue: have you enabled universe and multiverse01:24
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miracleblueah, i see, through the synaptic package manager ^_^ no i havent, ill give that a try right now01:24
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rabbit_zukalk: nope, went to the vlc hiome page and did whatever distro was there01:24
rabbit_firgured linux was linux01:24
zukalkwhat's the url?01:24
rabbit_one sec01:25
Razor-Xrabbit_: sudo apt-get vlc01:25
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jonohi all01:25
rabbit_zukalk: wait  a minute, there is an ubuntu guide for vlc?01:25
zukalkrazor's right, apt-get should solve everything01:25
thoreauputicRazor-X: erm .. sudo apt-get install vlc01:25
jonohow do I check the name severs for my domain are known by the top level registrar?01:25
zukalkrabbit_ : a guide for ubuntu, generally speaking: www.ubuntuguide.org01:25
miraclebluenalioth: im just enabling it now, so the package name is gstreamer-mad?01:26
zukalki'm guessing you're new to it, like me01:26
rabbit_zukalk: I'll go there and try that one, thanks01:26
zukalkrabbit_ like razor-x said, try using the command ' sudo apt-get install vlc '01:26
rabbit_zukalk: I am new to everything linux except the installation process..did it like 3 or 4 times already01:27
naliothmiracleblue: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HowToEnableTheMultiverseRepositoryInUbuntu add this one too01:27
rabbit_Razor-X: oh ok, cool, thanks01:27
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miraclebluethanks ^_^01:27
rabbit_zukalk: will do01:27
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geetergodCan someone walk me through hard to install a new soundcard?01:28
geetergodide appreciate it01:28
miracleblueim incredibly new to linux, i only managed to get pppoe working by the skin of my teeth and 3 days of learning command line the hard way before giving up and burning roaring penguin's pppoe thingy to disc01:28
novaflareahh finaly got the look i want for my desk top01:29
lurahHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA --->http://msmvps.com/gplthedarkside/articles/856.aspx01:29
lurah=)01:29
novaflarea deep dark read color heh01:29
miraclebluemy desktop is purdy...sorta01:29
miraclebluewell i tried01:29
zukalkmiracleblue: have faith, i was in the same situation a month ago. you'll see, after solving your probs, you won't ever want windows again ;)01:29
novaflareand i mean real dark heheh01:29
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nobilebrb reboot01:29
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max00Hi, if you want the last starwars episode (revenge of the sith - FullDivx 2X700MB), you can download it at: www.starwars-fr.org/xxl/01:30
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miraclebluezukalk: i dloaded linux to get away from windows in the first place ^_^ been using it for 10 years, im sick of it, and my apple died 4 months after getting it, and i dont wanna be stuck on windows again01:30
JovenComunistahow can i install the gift-fasttrack plugin for the apollon?01:30
geetergodIf someone has a sec i could use help installing my new soundcard01:30
miraclebluezukalk: so ive now had linux for 3 days01:30
JovenComunista??????01:30
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zukalkmiracleblue: well, at least you *tried* avoiding microsoft through apple, it's a start :P01:31
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miraclebluezukalk: i loved my apple, i love Mac OS X more than any OS in the world, it's just that the logic board is gonna cost $850 to replace, money which i donty have, so i thought, for the time being, why not get linux for my pc?01:32
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naliothmiracleblue: they did not replace your logic board at no charge?01:33
JovenComunista>:/01:33
miraclebluenalioth: no, im not under warranty01:33
hondjeI just got the logic board in the missus' mini mac replaced01:33
hondjewarranty == goodness01:34
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naliothmiracleblue: i take it you bought a 'pre-owned' mac?01:34
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hondjeBut now it runs slower, unstable.  Damn apple...01:34
geetergodCan someone help me install my new soundcard?01:34
miraclebluenalioth: yep.  thats the wonders of ebay01:34
miraclebluenalioth: I wanted that exact model powerbook for 4 years before i got it.  1 gig ram, 2 extra batteries, 15 inch, it was a dream01:35
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miraclebluenalioth: a dream that ended quite abruptly 4 months later01:35
JovenComunistaANYONE KNOWS HOW TO INSTALL THE GIFT_FASTTRACK PLUGIN FOR APOLLON???01:35
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naliothmiracleblue: the next dream can come from the apple store (they give away refurbs every day)01:35
thoreauputicJovenComunista: shouting and repeating won't help you01:35
Xyc0um, that BT tracker has been down for a while now, its not hard to set a new one up01:35
hondjeEntertaining theatrics might, though01:36
miraclebluenalioth: ah if my apple store did that i'd know about it.  might check that though, i dont think they do.  i'm in australia, hurrah01:36
Xyc0Or you could recite a lymric01:36
JovenComunistayou neither01:36
JovenComunista:P01:36
JovenComunistaXD01:36
xozthe next dream is to have pc that can switch from windows to mac to linux anytime without reboot01:36
miraclebluenalioth: okie dokie, im installing the g-streamer-mad package and a bunch of other gstreamer stuff along with it01:37
Tallia1[UbuntU] 2hey guys, someone knows if is there a configuration file for psnup?01:37
naliothmiracleblue: are you on a PPC machine now, by chance?01:37
Xyc0How do you change the splash screen in gnome, im too used to KDE01:37
naliothxoz wait a couple years01:37
Razor-XXyc0: limeric?01:37
miraclebluenalioth: no.  if i was, it would be my powerbook, and it wouldnt be running linux01:37
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Xyc0Razor-X: limerick01:38
nickrudTallia1[UbuntU] 2 a quick way to get a list of a packages conf files is dpkg -L | grep ^/etc01:38
Razor-Xahhh, my bad ;)01:38
geetergodcan someone help me install new soundcard?01:39
miracleblueYES!!  its working!!!01:39
Xyc0There was a young girl called Denise ,01:39
Xyc0She lived all her life on the streets .01:39
Xyc0In need of a prayer .01:39
Xyc0Her pockets were bare .01:39
Xyc0She died in the arms of a priest .01:39
miraclebluenalioth: thank you very much ^_^ i cant live without my music01:39
Xyc0Thats a sad one pfft01:39
hondjegood lymric01:39
Xyc0I can find better01:39
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geetergodnalioth, can you help me too? :)01:40
Razor-XHaikus are better ;)01:40
hondjeonly to people who watch anime :p01:40
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Razor-Xgeetergod: what kind of soundcard is it?01:40
Xyc0How do you change splash screens in Gnome?  I'm too used to KDE.01:40
Razor-Xhondje: so what if I watch anime? I liked haikus before anime ;)01:40
geetergodChaintech 7.1channel PCI01:40
geetergodi hear everything, just cant get my center and surround speakers workin01:41
hondjeRazor-X: a hah! I was right! :D01:41
Razor-Xgeetergod: what is your soud daemon?01:41
Razor-Xheheh ;)01:41
Razor-Xwas it my "FLCL kicks ass" that brought your attention to that?01:41
Razor-X*sound01:41
geetergodwhere do i go ot check?01:41
naliothgeetergod: i can only point u to the wiki01:41
Xyc0wow, i just found out that there is a Linus project called Xyc001:41
Razor-Xdo you have Ubuntu or Kubuntu?01:41
Xyc0Linux*01:41
lurahnn01:41
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IIIEarsis soud daemon an arab leader?01:42
miraclebluewow, the multiverse packages make life for a n00b linux user so much easier its not funny01:42
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geetergodwhere to check the sound daemon that is01:42
jonohi all, can someone point me at a python pygtk applet for gnome? I want to write a panel applet and need some sample source01:42
Razor-XIIIEars: Arab names don't sound like that ;)01:42
Razor-Xmiracleblue: wait till you graduate n00b acaemy01:42
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draskohi all. I have problem -- nautilus applications:/// gives me "no valid location" message.01:42
naliothmiracleblue: stay away from 'backports'01:42
FR500miracleblue, you can download the tar.gzs with firefox if you want fun01:42
Razor-Xgeetergod: well, generally, Ubuntu uses ALSA/ESD, while Kubuntu uses ARTS/ALSA01:42
eruindrasko, thats normal01:42
naliothmiracleblue: they'll make your n00b life more diffecult01:42
Razor-X*academy01:43
hondjewhat about my n00b life01:43
jrichehey01:43
eruindrasko, since there's no such thing ;-)01:43
Razor-Xhondje: you're a n00b?01:43
jrichethis upgrading of pacakges01:43
jricheis fucking slow01:43
jricheare there any ubuntu package mirrors?01:43
hondjeRazor-X: It's all relative, I guess01:43
FR500jriche, i'm dlding at 89kb/s01:43
Razor-Xjriche: I get about 80 kb/s, myself01:43
jricheRazor-X, i get like 1401:43
Razor-Xhondje: I know i'm not perfect, that's for sure01:43
miraclebluenalioth: thats how i was trying to do it before, it was so frustrating01:43
jricheRazor-X, i think its the general internet actaully01:43
jrichelemme see if i can fuck with it01:43
Xyc0United n00b Academy has a great environment for pwnage and w00t instruction.  Should you be interested in joining UNA, contact our 1337 campus locations.01:44
Razor-Xjriche: then, you cn't do that much :\01:44
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Razor-Xwhat about prerequisities?01:44
Razor-X4.0 in Windows usage01:44
jrichelike01:44
geetergodRazor-x, i go to System, Pref. Multimedia System Selector...01:44
jrichepinging freenode.net01:44
zukalkjriche, i usually get 200+kb/s when i use apt-get01:44
jrichei get 52ms01:44
Razor-X3.3 or better in patience01:44
IIIEarsjriche - none too quick here either poor internet weather. - new windows worm?01:44
geetergodand set default Source to ALSA, and theres no sound01:44
Razor-Xgeetergod: mmmm, nevermind then, you use ESD01:44
geetergodbut i set it to that in Default sink and test it and theres sound01:44
geetergodyes01:45
geetergodFailed to construct test pipeline for 'ESD - Enlightenment Sound Daemon01:45
geetergodthats what it says when i try ESD01:45
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Razor-Xhmmmmmmmmm...........01:45
Razor-Xdoes Ubuntu use ARTs?01:45
geetergodALSA makes a beeping sound when i test in Default Sink01:46
Xyc0Pre-reqs vary from campus to campus.  Should you be accepted to Gates is Satan Incarnate Hall, GSIH, be sure to be fluent in demonic speak from the 7th lvl of Hell.01:46
Grumblynalioth: you here?01:46
Razor-Xnalioth: seems you have a fan club ;)01:46
hondjebecause he's not a n00b like me01:46
Razor-Xwell, I help too -_-01:46
GrumblyI need some more help with my mac01:47
Grumblyany idea why it's not detecting my hardware?01:47
hondjeheh, I provide genuine troll commentary.  None of that lame, blatant and unsophisticated drivel you encounter so much these days01:47
Grumblymy graphics card is agp not pci01:48
IIIEarshondje lol01:48
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Grumblyand I am not familiar with macs enough to know how to set that01:48
Grumblynor am I familiar enough with linux01:48
jrichemy rage 128 kicks your 6800's ass01:48
IIIEarshondje the droll troll.01:48
Grumblyjriche: hmmm... ok01:49
hondjeI am to trolling what /. is to bringing down a server :-)01:49
Xyc0How do you change the Splash Screen in Gnome?01:49
Razor-Xgeetergod: ahh, sorry, not sure what to do01:49
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jrichelol01:49
Razor-XI can only say, browse the wikis, and grumble around the forums01:49
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Razor-XXyc0: ask the bleating gnome users ;)01:49
Razor-Xa KDE user can'thelp you there01:49
Xyc0I could answer that question in KDE01:49
geetergodrazor-x, k :(01:50
naliothGrumbly: yes01:50
Grumblyhondje:  you mean to say hondje:trolling:: /.: killing servers01:50
Razor-Xso could I, Xyc001:50
hondjeGrumbly: ah, that's much better01:50
GrumblyRazor-X: I have been01:50
Grumblykinda stuck01:50
geetergodI assume i just plug the colored plugs into the same colors in the sound card right?01:50
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Xyc0Trolling is only fun when you are making fun of another troll01:50
Xyc0Satisfaction in hypocracy01:50
Razor-XGrumbly: I meant that for geetergod ;)01:50
pfpXyc0: http://art.gnome.org01:50
naliothGrumbly: where we at?01:50
hondjeNo, the best trolling is when you get funding for it01:50
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jetscreameryes01:51
hondjeFor example, 'Dark energy' and 'dark matter'01:51
Razor-Xi'm going to kick BitTorrent!01:51
pfpXyc0: http://art.gnome.org/faq.php#q801:51
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hondjeTotal BS, but the guys who came up with it are rico suave now, thanks to mega buck from various foundations01:51
Razor-Xif this wasn't a high-traffic channel, you'ld here some nice curse words come out of my e-throat ;)01:51
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Xyc0thank you pfp, they obviously don't like to keep it simple01:52
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hondjeRazor-X: that's why you get your own chan, then you can be a maniac all you want :)01:52
Johnny_hey01:52
pfpbtw, does anyone think that 440M mem usage (-4M shr) is normal for azureus?01:52
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hondjeI'd say that any app for a desktop user that is taking up 440M better be editing video01:53
naliothpfp:  HOW many torrents you have running?01:53
eruinjava...01:53
hondjecan't blame java for coding _that_ bad01:53
naliothpfp: no not normal01:53
pfpumm, somewhere between 8-12 torrs01:53
eruinjava is to memory what I am to grolsch lager01:54
pfpwell, it's _delivering_ video though :P01:54
naliothGrumbly: how are we doing?01:54
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pfpnalioth: that's what i figured. i think it started when i upgraded to hoary01:54
hondjemmmm, grolsch01:54
naliothpfp: well, perhaps there is a newer bin of java available01:55
pfphmm, what kind of beer is grolsch?01:55
IIIEarsmm - pepsi and pound bags of cheetos - brain food.01:55
hondjepfp: dutch01:55
Razor-Xpfp: Azureus just uses all my CPU, and cripples me01:55
xozsun and microsoft have big investments to memory-manufacturer companies01:55
naliothRazor-X: what specs on yer system?01:55
_kevini have two computers One Ubuntu (This One) and one Windows Xp Home, they are both connect to through a router to a cable connection, Now My Question is I have some file on the linux that i would like to transfer over to the Windows Xp machine... How would i go about setting up this network... so i can send file fast01:55
Razor-Xnalioth: 256 MB RAM, 1.6 ghz P401:56
Razor-Xit was working fine, until this new version update01:56
bigbill52awindows programs are getting so fat and slow01:56
naliothRazor-X: need way more ram01:56
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Razor-Xnalioth: why did it suddenly start dying?01:56
Razor-Xnalioth: and why doesen't any other BT client work?01:56
IIIEarsRazor-X - 80mgs is ubuntu - there should be enough.01:56
zukalk_kevin : i think Samba should do the job. can't remember if i had do any configuring01:56
pfpweissbier is very nice... altough too expensive up here :/01:56
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Razor-X_kevin: my suggestion is a tftp server01:57
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geetergodRazor-x, well where would you go to add new hardware?01:57
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Grumblynalioth: help me please.  I dont know what kind of gfx card I've got.  Where do I look?  All I know is that it's an AGP card01:57
_kevintftp would be slow since i would go through the internet, or will it be smart and go throught he home router directly and send file very fast?01:57
naliothGrumbly: at the terminal type "lspci"01:57
xozGrumbly: lspci01:57
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Razor-Xgeetergod: hotplug should manage that for you, can't remember offhand the command to reconfigure sound01:58
naliothRazor-X: have you updated your core java?01:58
ngoehringanyone here running icecast2?01:58
geetergodk01:58
Razor-X_kevin: as long as you specify a local IP, _all_ connections will go through locally01:58
_kevinngoehring goto #icecast there you can get all the help01:58
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Razor-Xnalioth: less than a week ago01:58
IIIEars - "$ sudo sysctl -w vm.swappiness=10 " and do _not_ do the permanent "vm.swappiness=10 to /etc/sysctl.conf", or a different command will do the same01:58
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_kevinok thanks Razor-X01:58
ngoehring_kevin, thanks man01:58
geetergodJust weird that i got a 7.1 card now yet it still wont play the center and surround speakers01:58
pfpnalioth, Razor-X what java re / sdk do you have?01:59
Grumblyah01:59
IIIEarsRazor-X ==Swappiness===- "$ sudo sysctl -w vm.swappiness=10 " and do _not_ do the permanent "vm.swappiness=10 to /etc/sysctl.conf", or a different command will do the same01:59
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geetergodand its a 5.1 speaker system01:59
Razor-Xyeah, thanks IIIEars01:59
naliothpfp: i do not run java on thie iBook01:59
Razor-Xpfp: lemme see01:59
zukalkcya lads01:59
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hondjewhy mess with swappiness? :)01:59
Razor-X1.5.0_0201:59
pfpheh, mine's 1.5.0_0102:00
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Grumblyisnt there some autoconfig script for X11?02:00
GrumblyI dont know most of the info I need for this reconfigure util02:00
IIIEarsRazor-X larger numbers use the swap file default is 6002:00
cuscoplease take a minute of your time to read http://petition.eurolinux.org02:00
Razor-XIIIEars: okay, i'm hoping this'll help02:01
draskoeruin, how do you mean. I used to access applications menu via nautius...02:01
_kevintftp is command line? or User interface? I prefer something with user Interface02:01
cuscohttp://petition.eurolinux.org/index_html02:01
_kevinGUI02:01
Razor-Xstill, I don't know if it's a flaw or not, only because it happened after the version update, and other BT clients are sucking02:01
naliothsorry folks, but g2g2wrk02:01
hondjetftp is command line, _kevin02:01
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Razor-X_kevin: commandline02:01
_kevinahh i need a info file then to set it up02:01
Razor-Xafter the Azureus update, rather02:02
Razor-X_kevin: there's a man page on almost everything, tftpd included02:02
hondjeheh, bzflag2 drops into hoary quite smoothly02:02
Razor-Xmake sure to apt-get it, though02:02
_kevinis there any alternative way withouth using the command line02:02
_kevinsome mentioned Samba02:02
Razor-X_kevin: tftp tends to me nice and hassle free for me02:03
Razor-Xand fast02:03
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Razor-Xhmmm, anyways, i'm off to shower, since BT isn't *(&*(& working!!!02:03
_kevinwell I wanna see what i wanna download ont he windows machines from my linux machine02:03
hondje_kevin: any reason you can't use scp?02:03
hondjeway easier02:04
_kevini don't know i came here and asked02:04
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IIIEarshondje scp?02:04
_kevinI'll state my initial question02:04
_kevini have two computers One Ubuntu (This One) and one Windows Xp Home, they are both connect to through a router to a cable connection, Now My Question is I have some file on the linux that i would like to transfer over to the Windows Xp machine... How would i go about setting up this network... so i can send file fast02:04
Xappewinscp is free and quite nice02:04
hondjeIIIEars: oh man, you're missing out.  Basically cp over network, part of the ssh tools02:04
hondje_kevin: the winscp02:04
MaggotI keep getting errors while trying to install xfonts-base during instalation02:04
IIIEarsHm - sounds nice - Eureka! got the link.02:05
_kevinhonje bascially i wanna be able to access my home folder from my windows machine temporarily till i can just copy over some song ont eh windows machines which has a faster burner02:05
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HerdsmanMarengohow do i setup root access in ubuntu02:05
MaggotSuch as Buffer i/o error on decive HDA locigcal block #####02:05
hondje_kevin: all you have to do for that is sudo apt-get install ssh, download winscp, and read the commnads - way simple too02:05
HerdsmanMarengoit never game me the option to do it02:05
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Maggotwhat can I try to get it to install?02:05
Adrosshas anyone had much success converting avi's and mpg's to ogg?02:05
hondjeHerdsmanMarengo: no root by default in ubuntu02:05
Xappehondje: that should be openssh-server02:06
hondjeHerdsmanMarengo: use sudo instead02:06
HerdsmanMarengosudo?02:06
hondjeXappe: whoops, yes indeedy :)02:06
Adrossoh, and thoreauputic and Burgundavia thanks for all your help yesterday. I managed to fix it, but i couldn't of done it without you02:06
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hondjeHerdsmanMarengo: sudo 'command you'd run as root'02:07
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hondjeand all the GUI apps that want a passwd just want your user passwd02:07
kimoirda doesnt work on my laptop, though it works on suse! any ideas? (irda is loaded)02:07
HerdsmanMarengoahh02:07
pfpRazor-X: (or anyone) what's your recommended choice for installing j2sdk?02:07
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draskoI have problem -- nautilus applications:/// gives me "no valid location" message.02:08
pfps/choice/way/02:08
crimsundownload the tarball (not the rpm) and use make-jpkg02:08
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crimsunthen install the created deb02:08
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crimsunmake-jpkg exists in java-package02:09
hondjedrasko: where should it open?02:09
kimoirda doesnt work on my laptop, though it works on suse! any ideas? (irda is loaded)02:09
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_kevinhondje i download  winscp on the linux machine and install it but ./configure make and make install ?02:09
ylbmurGheh02:09
ylbmurGatleast it's online02:09
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hondje_kevin: no, winscp on the windows machine :)02:10
hondjeand the openssh server on ubuntu02:10
pfpcrimsun: thx - any reason why i shouldn't use backports? (i can handle broken dependencies usually)02:10
_kevinok then use it to connect to my linux machine02:10
ylbmurGsshd02:10
crimsunpfp: why would you want to use backports?02:10
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crimsunwhat the02:10
wulfepup#My poor laptop  I tried install Ubuntu Hoary (AMD64) and all I get now is "OS Missing"02:10
pfpcrimsun: lazy - would be a couple of commands less ;)02:11
hondjedrasko: hrm, I see what it's supposed to do (I rtfm'd) .... doesn't work right here, either. I'd file a bug report02:11
thoreauputichondje: no, that worked on warty, but not on hoary - he needs the menu editor (smeg)02:12
thoreauputicgnome issue...02:12
hondjefile://///usr/share/gnome/help/user-guide/C/user-guide.xml#gosnautilus-TBL-47902:13
hondjethat says that applications:/// and start-here:/// should work, and they don't02:13
thoreauputichondje: indeed, but this is a known issue02:13
hondjethoreauputic: any reason half of them don't work?02:14
thoreauputichondje: don't ask me :) I just know menu editing is broken in gnome 2.1002:14
MaggotI'm a little shocked by the lack of documentation related to actually installing ubuntu. The faq leaps right over it.02:14
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fazerHello, does anynone know of a good torrent client?02:15
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Xappefazer: azureus02:15
pfpi know a bad one ;/02:15
kimofazer: yabc02:15
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fazerazureus is a bad one.02:16
thoreauputichondje: amaranh's menu editor >> http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/02:16
fazeralthough its awesome02:16
fazerits too resource hoggy02:16
pfpaltough the perceived badness may not be azureus' fault02:16
fazeryabc, whats good about it?02:16
hondjethoreauputic: yeah, but those dont' have anything to do with menu editing02:16
IcemanV9azureus runs on java02:16
thoreauputicumm... yes they do : the applications:/// location was the place to put entries for the warty menu02:17
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JJasonJ20I just installed Ubuntu 5.04 (AMD 64) and I think I have no root account. How can that be? I'm stupid.02:17
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britesidehey guys02:17
britesidei'm trying to install php4 with apt-get02:17
britesidebut it always gives me this error02:17
britesideFailed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/krb5/libkrb53_1.3.6-1_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch02:17
hondjethoreauputic: okay, maybe that one was, but the rest weren't, I'm pretty sure02:17
britesideE: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?02:17
GrumblyJJasonJ20: its deactive by default02:17
hondjelike preferences:///02:17
Grumblyquick fix is to sudo bash and type passwd02:17
Grumblyto = do02:18
mjtshould this "i have no root" question be answered in /topic already? ;)02:18
hondjeor themes:///02:18
wulfepupJJasonJ20 .. you are right .. no root account.  use sudo02:18
JJasonJ20OK, trying it. Just a sec02:18
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Grumblymjt: prolly... but people like their root...02:18
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Grumblywulfepup: let em' hurt their stuff02:18
Grumblyit's the easiest way to learn02:18
thoreauputicmjt: the bot had a factoid for it - but ubotu has a severe case of amnesia at the moment02:19
Pithlitroot is there to be used :P02:19
hondjeI have no problem with using root, but it bothers me that people who can't figure out how to set root up a passwd want it02:19
mjti wasn't suggesting *how* to answer that question in /topic, but that *some* answer should be there by now ;)02:19
celloHi. how about usage of LTSP on ubuntu... ? is that easy like install the package and conect or that is a bit complex ?02:19
GrumblyPithlit: add yourself to wheel02:19
Grumblythat'll work for most02:20
britesidesudo passwd root02:20
BockBilbohey again02:20
PithlitGrumbly: I'm not complaining02:20
Grumblyhondje: it's not about problems using root for most people, it's about other people not having problems getting in.02:20
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Pithlitand... I don't use ubuntu so nyah :P02:20
hondjeAre you suggesting that sudo increases your vulnerability?02:21
eruinhaha02:21
_kevinhondje, now that i have ssh and winscp ont he window machine02:21
_kevini need the loging info02:21
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_kevinhow do i find that info out02:21
BockBilboi have a question related to samb: Im using samba to share some directories from a ubuntu machine in gest mode so no password is required02:21
BockBilbothe problem i have is that from windows, for example, when doing any modifications in the folders files (such as delete, rename or move) the modifications are not visualized unless i refresh the window. I would like to know if that's a problem of my samba configuration, and if it is, how can i fix it? is there any refresh option?02:21
_kevinand set it up02:21
IIIEarsSeparate DVD and CD recorders - Tips to speed up the DVD recorder? - (scratches head)02:21
JJasonJ20hondje, yeah, you are right. But I've been using Linux for only ten days. I need to configure stuff that requires a root password. Like options in Firefox.02:21
LinuxJonescello, atm I think it's still a work in progress but it is one of the projects that will get some well desserved attention in the near future :)02:22
hondjewhat options in FF want root passwd? I never saw that02:22
_kevinany one wants to help me set up winscp?02:22
Pithlitfirefox needs root?02:22
JJasonJ20And this is my computer, behind a router and a firewall and I live alone.02:22
Pithlitwhat the hell for?02:22
_kevinit shouldn't02:22
hondje_kevin: I haven't ever used winscp, just know everyone likes it :)02:22
_kevindamn02:22
_kevinany winscp user02:22
hondjeOnly app I know offhand that NEEDS root is ethereal02:23
_kevinit need login info for the ssh server02:23
JJasonJ20Well, I clicked on Edit > Options and got "root.disabled = "true"02:23
PithlitJJasonJ20: if you really need FF as root you can start it with sudo02:23
LinuxJonescello, here's a sort of dated howto from the wiki >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/LTSPHowTo02:23
xoz_kevin: just enable sshd... /etc/init.d/ssh start02:23
stuNNedLinuxJones:would be nice if LTSP used ubuntu by default instead of Fedora ;)02:24
IIIEarsEww - FF as root with java and flash enabled. (pops two anti-acids)02:24
stuNNedLOL IIIEars02:24
LinuxJonescello, by all means give it a go :)02:24
LinuxJonesstuNNed, it's one of the best oss projects for schools and organizations with limited resources :)02:25
LinuxJonescello, :D02:25
JJasonJ20OK, that worked. Now I can get Preferences.02:25
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thoreauputicJJasonJ20: I don't know what you are doing - but Prefs in Firefox don't require root :/02:26
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Pithlitbtw... how do I add sshd (or any other service) to a runlevel in ubuntu?02:26
stuNNedLinuxJones: yes and quite easy to set up once get the network boot sorted :)02:26
NazyrAnyone here have any experience with NFORCE 4 chipset isntall? getting kernel panic after bootup02:26
IIIEarsCD ripping @ 2.8x to FLAC - Whats the hold up?02:26
stuNNedIIIEars: me too i have same prob02:27
eruindma,dma,dma02:27
stuNNedoh02:27
stuNNedthnx eruin02:27
xozPithlit: you can do a symbolic link from /etc/rc.d02:27
hondjePithlit: lots of ways...one is to install sysv-rc-conf and use that, another is to use 'BUM', or my way is to symlink from /etc/rcN.d02:27
stuNNederuin: is there gui for enabling dma on cdrom?02:27
eruinI need special via modules loaded _before_ the ide-* ones to make dma work for me02:27
eruingrr02:28
eruinno, sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdx02:28
xozPithlit: to rc<n>.d02:28
JJasonJ20I couldn't get into Preferences with my regular account until I launched it as root. Then Prefs worked fine02:28
Pithlitthanks02:28
IIIEarsThank You! - (eruin wins an OEM XP disk. - everyone could use a coaster right?)02:28
thoreauputicJJasonJ20: something is wrong then02:28
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IIIEarslol02:28
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JJasonJ20Yeah, what's wrong is a total n00b trying to learn Linux on his own :(02:29
eruinhow rude!02:29
Nazyrlol atleast XP runs on my system .. I have yet to get Ubuntu to run correctly02:29
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JJasonJ20But Ubuntu rox02:29
CrustyPunkhey, I'm having some slight, rather irritating issues.02:29
stuNNedJJasonJ20: total n00b should RTFM and RTFM and RTFM once again. :)02:29
thoreauputicJJasonJ20: we've all been there - you'll get it gradually02:29
hondjeJJasonJ20: nothing, but you have a societal obligation to not do stuff that might cause us badness02:29
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jindGnome sound is broken02:30
kvidellrtfm - regarding the full manual ;)02:30
wulfepupThere's an FM??  *g*  naaaaaaaahhhhh!02:30
hondjeGetting rooted inconveniences everyone02:30
IIIEarsNazyr - What can the room help you with?02:30
stuNNedkvidell: yes02:30
NazyrRTFM doesnt always work02:30
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stuNNedNazyr: if you can't read, yep.02:30
_kevinis there a FTP server program for linux with a Nice and easy g.u.i interface02:30
JJasonJ20RTFM works great, once you *find* the M.02:30
thoreauputicNazyr: not unless you implement what you read, no ;)02:30
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CrustyPunkAlsa-base is broken, and trying to uninstall it (or installing anything else for that matter) tells me I need to uninstall GDM, ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop02:30
IIIEarskvidell - RTFM - is handy and the first recommendation in #debian02:30
PithlitJJasonJ20: $ man whatever02:31
Pithliteasy to find them02:31
Pithlit:P02:31
kvidellman -k search term02:31
hondjesometimes the documentation is over a newbies head, or useless for anyone02:31
kvidellalso useful02:31
hondjeasking is good, too02:31
IIIEarsNazyr - What is the stopping point?02:31
JJasonJ20hondje, you can say that again.02:31
NazyrOK wheres the TFM for how to fix a Kernel Panic Error on a fresh install on a NFORCE4 based motherboard? would love to know .. because after two days of looking I cant seem to find one02:31
eruinFMs are far from as useful as learning by experience/example02:31
thoreauputichondje: only sometimes ? *grin*02:31
hondjeI'm just saying, the obsession with root is disturbing02:31
kvidellyea, I only use manuals with software I already know how to use and just need a reminder02:32
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kvidelllike I can for the life of me NEVER remember which order to put arguments for ln -s02:32
JJasonJ20But every journey begins with a single step. I'll just keep plugging away.02:32
eruinkvidell, hahah, me too02:32
CrustyPunkAlsa-base is broken, and trying to uninstall it (or installing anything else for that matter) tells me I need to uninstall GDM, ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop. Is it safe to do so, and then apt-get install gdm ubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-base?02:32
wulfepupfrequently just "foo --help" is all you need with a specific command (though "man foo" is generally much more informative.)02:32
NazyrIIIEars: I get a kernel panic - not syncing error about 60 seconds after machine boots02:32
hondjesometimes you need the man page02:32
LinuxJonesCrustyPunk,  your running Hoary ?02:32
CrustyPunkLinuxJones: Yeah02:33
eruin"uname --help" is an example of --help done right.02:33
CrustyPunkLinuxJones: Er... if Hoary is 5.04. I can't keep Hoary and Warty straight02:33
IIIEarsNazyr - Did you spot the module/app loaded at boot that might cause it?02:33
eruinNazyr, try booting in rescue mode for more useful output02:34
sounixcomo instyalar ubuntu desde disketes02:34
NazyrIIIEars: nope everything boots fine02:34
LinuxJonesCrustyPunk,  sudo -s (enter ur password) then apt-get update && apt-get upgrade02:34
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CrustyPunkLinuxJones: Doing so02:34
IIIEarsthere is a boot log. Where you able to see it?02:34
LinuxJonesCrustyPunk, you can always cat /etc/issue to be sure what your running :)02:34
stuNNedNazyr: self compiled kernel or stock?02:34
NazyrstuNNed: Stock02:35
NazyrstuNNed: this is a brand new clean install02:35
IIIEarsthe live CD will help if you have one. if not any live cd will let you peek.02:35
CrustyPunkLinuxJones: The following packages have unmet dependencies:02:35
CrustyPunk  alsa-base: Depends: alsa-utils (>= 1.0.8-2) but 1.0.8-1ubuntu1 is installed02:35
CrustyPunkE: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.02:35
pfpCrustyPunk: apt-get -f install  <- might help02:35
LinuxJonesCrustyPunk, cat /etc/issue and tell me what you have02:36
AmaranthCrustyPunk: do you have any third party repositories (non-Ubuntu)02:36
AmaranthCrustyPunk: like backports or marillat02:36
NazyrIIIEars: LiveCD doesnt work .. doesnt recognize my mouse or keyboard02:36
CrustyPunkpfp: That's what I did before I even came here. It told me I'd have to uninstall ubuntu-base, ubuntu-desktop and gdm02:36
CrustyPunkAmaranth: I don't believe so. I got my repository list from ubuntuguide02:36
Amaranthack02:37
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IIIEarsNazyr - What are your system specifications?02:37
CrustyPunkLinuxJones: Hoary02:37
Amaranthyou got backports and/or marillat then02:37
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pfpCrustyPunk: ok, something has messed up your dependencies then, prolly those 3rd party reps Amaranth mentioned02:37
CrustyPunkAmaranth: ...Is that bad?02:37
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AmaranthCrustyPunk: it's what is causing this problem, so yeah02:37
IIIEarspastebin.com will help if a long list will flood the channel02:37
pfpCrustyPunk: i'd comment them out, then -f  etc02:38
IIIEarspaste or /msg02:38
CrustyPunkpfp: I'll try that.02:38
we2bywhat program can I use for rss feeds?02:38
we2byI have it installed, but can not remember the name02:38
stuNNedNazyr: where does it oops?02:38
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pfpwe2by: apt-cache search rss02:38
AmaranthCrustyPunk: http://rafb.net/paste/results/AMdBMc27.html02:39
hondjealright, my very own bzflag2 .deb02:39
AmaranthCrustyPunk: your sources.list should look like that02:39
Xyc0meh, logging into freenode takes forever02:39
IIIEarsoops is the friendly terminology - grin02:39
miraclebluemorning everyone ^_^02:39
Amaranthwe2by: blam, liferea, or straw02:39
miraclebluexmms hates me, and so does beep.  sadly.  oh well.02:39
Amaranthmiracleblue: get gstreamer-mad and use rhythmbox or muine02:39
bobthegoatQuestion: I have samba server running and can see my linux box from windows machine, but when I try to open it it asks me to log in but won't accept my login and keeps adding the windows machines name infront of my user name.02:40
NazyrIIIEars: AMD64 3800+ Gigabyte GA-K8N Ultra-9 Motherboard 2 gig of ram ATI X800XL Graphics card installing to a 80gig ATA HD instead of SATA at this point02:40
bobthegoatany ideas?02:40
CrustyPunkAmaranth: Should I erase my sources.list and replace it with that?02:40
Amaranthbobthegoat: you need to login with the windows machine's username and password02:40
AmaranthCrustyPunk: yeah02:40
lonewolffbobthegoat: have you set your users samba password?02:40
NazyrstuNNed: it just does it .. even if I dont log in .. it will just panic and lock02:40
eruin64bits and ati. You're asking for trouble</rant>02:40
JJasonJ20Thanks for the help dudes. Exam week is over and its PARTY TIME!!02:40
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hondjeThe future of IT has just left the room :)02:40
IIIEarsNazyr - (Drool) Nice rig.02:40
pfpbobthegoat: samba keeps a saeparate password file, you can/need to set pw w/  smbpasswd02:41
bobthegoatAmaranth,  I just tried my windows user name it didn't work02:41
stuNNedNazyr: might try antiquated 'noapic' or acpi=off or soemthing from grub?02:41
CrustyPunkAmaranth: Done. What should I do next? I'm updating the list now.02:41
eruinJJasonJ20 got it all wrong. you should party *in* exam-week02:41
miracleblueamaranth: i have gstreamer-mad, and rhythmbox has slow response times02:41
NazyrIIIEars: lol will be if I can get something other than WinXP installed02:41
bobthegoatpfp ok I will try that.02:41
AmaranthCrustyPunk: after you run sudo apt-get update you should be set02:41
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IIIEarsNazyr - a boot log would be golden. - not sure it's possible with the live CD. - :/02:42
CrustyPunkAmaranth:  And then do apt-get -f install or whatever the command is?02:42
wulfepupduring installation.... I know the [skull]  is for format... what is the lightning bolt?02:42
AmaranthCrustyPunk: yeah02:42
pfpbobthegoat: in windows, you should probably use same username+pass as you do on you ubu box02:42
NazyrstuNNed: ok brb see if that helps02:42
miracleblueamaranth: so i tried to see if xmms would be a little quicker, but it just locks up whenever i try to play an mp3 file.  kinda sad, oh well02:42
NazyrIIIEars: Ill see if I can get it .. brb02:42
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Amaranthmiracleblue: you need to tell xmms to use alsa or oss02:42
Amaranthmiracleblue: it's a preference02:42
CrustyPunkwulfepup: Lightning bold is for bootable, I believe02:42
wulfepupcol02:42
miracleblueAmaranth: oh, okie dokie, ill try that02:43
wulfepuperr cool02:43
wulfepupthx02:43
bobthegoatWhere is the smb password file? I am searching smb.conf it just talks about encryption02:43
hou5tona friend once had an Xchat notification thingie that would allow one to be on a different virtual desktop and know when a message to them was delivered.  I haven't found such a thing for Ubuntu.  Any help?02:43
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Amaranthhou5ton: the xchat system tray icon?02:43
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CarlFKduh - how do I reset my password in hoary?02:43
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hou5tonAmaranth:  ya ... that was it02:44
bobthegoatHum Samba seems to work if I turn off user lvl security, I guess I'll just do that.02:44
pfpbobthegoat: by default /etc/samba/smbpasswd but hmm, you may need to create it with something like 'mksmbpasswd < /etc/passwd > /etc/samba/smbpasswd'02:44
EvanCarrollhou5ton: You live in houston texas?02:44
miracleblueAmaranth: It was using OSS, so i switched it to ALSA02:44
miracleblueAmaranth: I'll give it another try02:44
hou5tonEvanCarroll:  nah ... central Missouri02:44
bobthegoatpfp ok I'll try that.02:44
EvanCarroll=/02:44
pfpbobthegoat: after that, use 'sudo smbpasswd yourusername' to set the pw02:44
hou5tonEvanCarroll:  doesn't make sense ... I know02:45
Amaranthhou5ton: http://edit.peoplesdns.com/index.php?show=5202:45
wulfepuphou5ton you should be able to get Xchat .. therefore .. ditto the sys tray icon?02:45
LuakagonI wish to restart my sound server withoug logging in and out, how do I do that please?02:45
pfpor maybe there's an easier way, that's what i've used for the last 5 years...02:45
miracleblueAmaranth: It works using the eSound one ^_^02:45
Amaranthmiracleblue: ah, that was it02:45
hondjeLuakagon: try killall -1 esd02:45
Amaranthmiracleblue: i was thinking you needed to take it off the esd one02:45
kimowhere do I find old libstdc++ ?02:46
CrustyPunkAmaranth: It's still tleling me that GDM, Ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop will be uninstalled02:46
Luakagonhow do I list those processes to make sure that I dont crash my computer first?02:46
IIIEarsAmaranth - Do you run 64bit?02:46
hou5tonwulfepup:  one would think, but I've never found it listed in Synaptic02:46
AmaranthIIIEars: nope02:46
pfpLuakagon: if you use gnoem, 'ps auxw|grep esd'02:46
bobthegoatpfp when I try that line you suggested all I get is permission denied. I tried it as root with sudo also02:46
wulfepuphou5ton: try using aptitude?02:46
Luakagonthank you pfp02:47
CrustyPunkAmaranth: When I apt-get -f install it still tells me that GDM, Ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop will be uninstalled02:47
miracleblueAmaranth: Yeah, OSS is the one freezing up.  Thanks for helping, otherwise I wouldntve tried changing that option02:47
pfpbobthegoat: h, sudo can't see the < > redirections, so 'sudo sh -c "thecommand"'02:47
hou5tonwulfepup:  no ... but I see it in Synaptic.  Is it an Xchat notification plugin?02:47
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wulfepupsounds like it?02:47
PhantomFreakDoes anyone know a good program for calculating the speed the CPU is running at!02:48
wulfepupnever used XChat myself .. I'm a newly annoited *nix n00b with a strong passion for some of my old Win proggies.. like mIRC02:48
Amaranthaptitude is just like synaptic, but for a terminal02:48
LuakagonThat didn't work...02:48
Amaranthit's not an xchat systray icon02:49
bobthegoatok I just tried that pfp , and it still get permission denied  "bash: /etc/samba/smbpasswd: Permission denied"02:49
_kevini try to run Pure-FtpD and it gives me and error saying Unable to start a standalone server: Address already in use, what does this mean, and this the first time I'm running it and it give me this error02:49
LuakagonI still need help closing my sound server02:49
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Amaranthhou5ton: I gave you the code for the tray icon, you just need to figure out where to save that file02:49
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CrustyPunkAmaranth: When I apt-get -f install it still tells me that GDM, Ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop will be uninstalled02:49
hou5tonAmaranth:  ya ... i see that ...02:49
AmaranthCrustyPunk: err02:49
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pfpLuakagon: did you find the PID? (number in 2nd column)02:50
LuakagonI just did killall and it killed all02:50
Amaranthhou5ton: You just need to save the file in a special place, I can't remember where.02:50
Luakagonnevermind...02:50
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jugarnathahi all: i'm trying to get my codecs in place for totem. I've downloaded them and extracted them twice, but I can't figure out where they're located or what to do with them. they're on this console somewhere02:50
PhantomFreakI've tried a few things like CPUID but they usually show the full processor speed!02:51
jugarnathacan anyone help?02:51
CrustyPunkAmaranth: Would it be a bad idea to let it do it's thing and then apt-get ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop gdm?02:51
Luakagonhmm, there we go :) success!02:51
PhantomFreakI need the current speed!02:51
AmaranthCrustyPunk: probably02:51
AmaranthCrustyPunk: this is why you don't use 3rd party repositories.02:51
AmaranthCrustyPunk: what package is it you're trying to install?02:51
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CrustyPunkAmaranth: Right now, I'm more concerned about getting alsa fixed or uninstalled without killing my system02:52
CrustyPunkAmaranth: But I'm trying to install Vavoom02:52
HerdsmanMarengodoes ubuntu come with a preinstalled c compiler?02:52
pfpPhantomFreak: there's an applet for gnome that does this i think02:52
IIIEars64bit Does anyone use a 64bit processor?02:52
AmaranthCrustyPunk: I mean what package is trying to install itself and remove gdm and such02:52
Luakagonlots of love to all you crazy cats keep kool peace owt!02:52
AmaranthHerdsmanMarengo: no, you need to install the build-essential package02:53
jugarnathalater Luak*02:53
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wulfepupIIIEars: I am .. but I can't get it to install yet02:53
CrustyPunkAmaranth: None; when I tell Synaptic to remove alsa-base it tries to remove gdm and all that02:53
AmaranthCrustyPunk: why are you removing alsa-base?!?!?02:53
CrustyPunkAmaranth: Err, not remove, sorry02:53
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CrustyPunkAmaranth: Reinstall02:53
CrustyPunkAmaranth: It's "broken" for one reason or another02:53
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hondjeCrustyPunk: try apt-get --reinstall alsa-base?02:54
wulfepupahhhhhhh02:54
AmaranthCrustyPunk: ok, open up a terminal and run sudo apt-get install alsa-base/hoary02:54
jugarnathahi all: i'm trying to get my codecs in place for totem. I've downloaded them and extracted them twice, but I can't figure out where they're located or what to do with them. they're on this console somewhere02:54
IIIEarswulfepup - sadly you aren't alone - looking for help Nazyr's system shows the desk for about 30 seconds with the mouse and keyboard locked up. - What are you seeing?02:54
Amaranthjugarnatha: you mean w32codecs?02:54
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CrustyPunkAmaranth: I'm doing that. It's downgrading what I have, but I've a feeling it will fix it.02:55
jugarnathaum, I downloaded them from a site . . . they should all be windows movie player codecs, I guess. I could give you the site name if that would help02:55
AmaranthCrustyPunk: it will02:55
wulfepup"Operating System Missing"02:55
AmaranthCrustyPunk: it's going back to the hoary version02:55
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blastmanuhi02:55
AmaranthCrustyPunk: one of your third party repositories (probably backports) thought it was a good idea to try to give you a new alsa02:55
wulfepupbut it seems to be working now...  I got Grub...and went to XP to make sure that worked...02:56
IIIEarswulfepup - okay - sounds like a disk error in the master boot record. - Do you think so?02:56
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wulfepupNow I'm rebooting to see if teh rest of teh install takes...02:56
CrustyPunkAmaranth: Thanks02:56
StargazerHi.. I'm running 5.04 PPC - I just installed gstreamer- ffmpeg for totem.. I go to watch a divx and totem loads up, and about 20 secs after exits.  What more do I need to do for totem to view divx's?02:56
CarlFKIIIEars - more likely mis configured02:56
blastmanuI will speack english :)02:56
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IIIEarswulfepup - do you think the grub pointer is looking for a different 32 bit kernel?02:56
AmaranthStargazer: install totem-xine02:56
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CrustyPunkAmaranth: Now to get back to installing Vavoom =P02:57
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IIIEarsCarlFK - What do you think it is?02:57
wulfepupI was trying to maintain my XP mbr .. and have grub on the (hd0,1)  but that did not work for me....02:57
jugarnathawww.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingCodecsToTotemHowTo - 18k <-- that's where I was directed to get the codecs02:58
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wulfepupI stuck it on MBR and it seems to be working now...  I'm maybe be a quick study, but I'm still a n00b .....especially trouble shooting.02:58
IIIEarswulfepup - been juggling primary and secondary hard drive using the bios. - not elegant by any means.02:58
hondjejugarnatha: what did you do with the tarball you downloaded from mplayer's site?02:58
jugarnathahttp://www4.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/codecs.html <-- and this is the location02:58
Knudanyone ever got this problem(while starting on virtual pc): kernel panic : attempted to kill idle process02:58
bobthegoatQuestion: when I try to run smbpasswd I get ' Error was : Account disabled.' any ideas on what i do?02:58
CarlFKIIIEars -I missed your history: I am guessing you have both Ubuntu and Win XP installed?02:59
IIIEarslol - okay - i'm lazy- there i said it!02:59
jugarnathahondje: well, I'm not sure what a tarball is. i let /usr/bin/file-roller opoen them02:59
hondjeoh02:59
IIIEarsCarlFK - yes02:59
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jugarnathahondje: was that a mistake?02:59
CarlFKIIIEars - which did you install first?02:59
hondjejugarnatha: I dunno, never used it02:59
jugarnathawhat would you do with them if you were to save them to disk, hondje02:59
wulfepupIIIEars: well, my install is continuing....02:59
pfpbobthegoat: could you do a 'grep yourusername /etc/samba/smbpasswd' and paste it here02:59
bobthegoatk03:00
wulfepupI'll let you know what hap[pens next .. LOL03:00
IIIEarsCarlFK windows primary then biosed the second drive to primary. - see i told you i was lazy.03:00
jugarnathahondje: what would you do with them if you were to save them to disk, hondje03:00
hondjejugarnatha: well, I'd open up a terminal first03:00
CrustyPunkBlar.03:00
StargazerBeing new to ubuntu, where can I find a gui utility to change video card colour depth? I've searched high and low through all system preferences in gnome03:00
bobthegoatpf it says : grep: /etc/samba/smbpasswd: No such file or directory' but I thought I created that with that step above...03:01
Knudanyone ever got this problem(while starting on virtual pc): kernel panic : attempted to kill idle process03:01
CarlFKIIIEars - Ok, you need to put the win drive back or it will be cranky. but then grub won't be there...03:01
IcemanV9Stargazer: it is in the little file called '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' :)03:01
StargazerAlso, any idea how to get the volume to stay where it is?  Everytime I reboot the volume control on the menu bar is muted.03:01
pfpbobthegoat: it seems you created it somewhere else...03:01
PhantomFreakWhat is the Govener in CPUfreq settings03:01
CrustyPunkNow I'm having trouble compiling Vavoom, probably mu own n00bery: I get the message gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1plus': No such file or directory when I run make03:01
bobthegoatthis is what I did pfp 'sudo sh -c mksmbpasswd < /etc/passwd > /etc/samba/smbpasswd'03:02
CarlFKIIIEars - in keeping with the lazy theam: put the win drive back, get that working - maybe even reisntall XP.  then leave the drives alone and isntall Ubunto - it will work around XP and even include it in the boot config03:02
IIIEarsnp - windows is for doom 3 - ubuntu is for everything else. grin03:02
Xyc0CrustyPunk: sudo apt-get install build-essential03:02
bobthegoatwhen I try it now03:02
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bobthegoatit says 'bash: /etc/samba/smbpasswd: Permission denied'03:02
LinuxJonesCrustyPunk, apt-get install build-essential03:02
CrustyPunkXyc0: Thanks03:02
pfpbobthegoat: oh, you need some "quotes there03:02
CarlFKIIIEars - flipping drives around was actualy more work, so the lazy thing doesn't really hold up ;)03:03
bobthegoatoh03:03
wulfepupIIIEars: that sounds like what I ended up doing ....03:03
Xyc0CrustyPunk: install and try to compile again03:03
pfpbobthegoat: sudo sh -c "mksmbpasswd < /etc/passwd > /etc/samba/smbpasswd"03:03
CrustyPunkXyc0: Am doing. thanks again.03:03
wulfepupCarlFK: the excuses of teh lazy almost always are actually more work.. I should know.. I'm one of the lazy ones too.03:03
bobthegoatthat worked03:03
bobthegoatok03:03
bobthegoatnow I will try the smbpasswd thing. thanks for pointing that out.03:04
pfpbobthegoat: great03:04
IIIEarsCarlFK - using the bios is fine to substitute for grub is fine for now.03:04
CrustyPunkWhee03:04
CrustyPunkXyc0: is this an error with the source, or am I missing something else? "make: *** [obj/d_alleg.o]  Error 1"03:04
CarlFKIIIEars - but is XP working?03:04
bobthegoatok03:05
bobthegoatI have the file now03:05
bobthegoatand I also ran smbpasswd03:05
IIIEarsYes - on the second originally primary drive03:05
Xyc0CrustyPunk: be a bit more specific, did you install the build essential?03:05
wulfepupIf I have a whole shload of windows TTF files.. will I be able to load them?  ((I'm guessing not, but I have to ask))03:05
bobthegoatbut it still just sits there when I try to login on windows to the linux box. and adds my windows box's name to the front of my user.03:05
CrustyPunkXyc0: Yeah, I did03:05
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Xyc0CrustyPunk: what is the error you get now?03:05
thoreauputicwulfepup: ttf fonts?03:05
Knudanyone ever got this problem or know a sollution(i got it while starting on virtual pc): kernel panic : attempted to kill idle process03:06
CarlFKIIIEars - wild - I would have figured it would get upset that what was C: isnt anymore, but maybe the lack of MS file system lets that work03:06
CrustyPunkXyc0: What I just pasted: make: *** [obj/d_alleg.o]  Error 103:06
wulfepupthoreauputic: yup .. I use them in my graphic design work.03:06
IIIEarswulfpup - mttcorefonts is what some use guessing you need more fonts?03:06
thoreauputicwulfepup: you can just dump them in ~/.fonts03:06
Xyc0CrustyPunk: What are you installing again?03:06
LinuxJoneswulfepup, >>http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FontInstallHowto03:06
AmaranthCrustyPunk: the real error is above that03:06
CrustyPunkXyc0: Err, I take that back. I have a LOT of errors. Almost every line03:06
thoreauputicwulfepup: note the "dot"03:06
AmaranthCrustyPunk: what is the _first_ error?03:07
wulfepupthoreauputic: phat!  Will do03:07
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pfpbobthegoat: hmm03:07
bobthegoatwhen I try my user03:07
DaveyWhy can't I edit my MP3s ID3 tags in "Media Player" (Rythmbox)03:07
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wulfepupLinuxJones: Thanks!03:07
ukatodoes GAIM file sharing work for anybody?03:07
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thoreauputicwulfepup: you might want to read the URL LinuxJones posted as well though03:07
CrustyPunkAmaranth: I'm going to pastebin it all03:07
pfpbobthegoat: do you use the exact same username on the windows and ubuntu boxen03:07
bobthegoatyes03:07
geetergodCan anyone help me to get my speakers/sound card working right?03:07
Daveyat first, I thought it was cause my MP3s where on a ro file system (NTFS), but even now, I can't edit stuff I own on my linux partition03:07
Xyc0Davey: sudo apt-get install easytag03:07
wulfepupukato: haven't tried yet ...03:08
bobthegoatthe windows one has no password.03:08
bobthegoatthat is the only difference03:08
bobthegoatpfp03:08
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CrustyPunkAmaranth and Xyc0: http://pastebin.com/29870603:08
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wulfepupoh S.O.B.!!!  I didn't realize it would be dl'ing before teh install was complete! this bytes!!!!  I don't have time....03:08
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geetergodwhat room would i go to for soundcard/speakers help?03:08
nemikhi guys i'm having trouble apt-getting curl03:09
pfpbobthegoat: hmm, try setting the same password on your windows machine. windows _should_ ask for a password when you try to connect, though03:09
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bobthegoatpfp it does ask for it. I will try setting the password03:09
wulfepuprazzin' fraggin' dial-up03:09
nemiki did apt-get upgrade and apt-get update and i still get some md5 error03:09
miraclebluenerf03:09
miracleblue:P03:09
pfpbobthegoat: ok, so you type in the password that you set with smbpassword earlier...03:10
miracleblueits cold03:10
Xyc0CrustyPunk: Im at a loss for that one03:10
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Xyc0CrustyPunk: sorry03:10
CrustyPunkXyc0: It's okay. Thanks for your help\03:10
thickglassesubuntu comes with a c compiler doesnt it?03:11
thoreauputicthickglasses: sudo apt-get install build-essential03:11
Xyc0thickglasses: I don't think so, but its not hard to install one on ubuntu03:11
CarlFKthickglasses - you have to add it - apt-get install build-essinti... that.03:11
bobthegoatpfp it didn't help, yes same password and user name. when I click on the linux box in the windows network home thing, it brings up a login, to localhost.localdomain. I put the user and password in and hit ok, and then it comes back password is still there but windows has changed the user name to windowscomputer\username, not sure whats up with that pfp03:11
PhantomFreakAny idea what this error is about... Access to /proc/cpufreq is deprecated and will be removed from (new) 2.6. kernels soon after 2005-01-0103:11
IIIEarsthickglasses - synaptic will install everything from a compiler to a full blown proffesional IDE with a search and a click.03:12
pfpbobthegoat: oh... strange. this is what i've used with windows03:12
IIIEarsthickglasses - build-essential is all you will need for most things03:12
nemikfailed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubunut/pool/main/c/curl/curl_7.12.3-ubunut3_i386.deb MD5Sum mismatch03:12
thickglassesok, thanks03:12
nemikwhat is wrong?03:13
nemiksomething with ubunut server?03:13
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nemikand why i386, i have a pentium machine....03:13
bobthegoatya I'm not sure it is service pack 2 of win xp , everywhere I looked for howtos, just told to do the smbpasswd thing and nobody mentions this problem.03:13
Mezanyone here on breezy kde?03:13
Knudplease help: http://img156.echo.cx/img156/3196/kernelpanic3li.jpg03:13
bobthegoatit works with shared lvl access at least.03:13
pfpbobthegoat: hmm, what does 'egrep security.*= /etc/samba/smb.conf' say?03:13
pfpbobthegoat: ah, or do you have security = user already set03:14
thoreauputicnemik:  /topic03:14
bobthegoatsecurity = user already,03:14
nemikthoreauputic: ok thanks. are there any backup ones to use?03:15
bobthegoatit says a couple of things basically /etc/samba/smb.conf:;   security = user03:15
bobthegoat/etc/samba/smb.conf:# Directory creation mask is set to 0700 for security reason s. If you want to03:15
nemikthat i can edit in /ect/apt/sources.list03:15
Amaranthnemik: x86 packages are compiled for the 386 but tuned for the pentium 403:15
thoreauputicnemik: sure, just change the us. prefix for a country of your choice03:15
pfpbobthegoat: oh, but there's a ; semicolon, it's commented out03:15
nemikahh so....nl?03:15
HerdsmanMarengoanyone know what this means? 'What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running03:15
HerdsmanMarengokernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 03:15
HerdsmanMarengo'03:15
pfpbobthegoat: remove that :)03:15
Amaranthnemik: so they run on older machines but they run better on newer ones, it's a good tradeoff03:15
nemikahh ok thanks03:16
nemikwhat countries do you recommend me switching to?03:16
nemikfor the server? since ca and us are down03:16
Amaranthca and us are the same thing :)03:16
bobthegoatpfp hum that is somewhat stupid if that is the cause, let me try that.03:16
Amaranthplain archive.ubuntu.com seems to be working03:16
nemikok i'll try it03:17
CarlFKarchive.ubuntu.com will tend to be slower... better to find a close one03:17
IIIEarsnemik - you can install an ubuntu kernel by selecting one that matches your hardware aND REBOOTING.03:17
AmaranthIIIEars: Big fingers? :)03:18
IIIEarsCaps sorry - Cat-tastrophe03:18
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matjan_hello, could anyone help me?03:18
matjan_i just ran the ubuntu live cd... it sees my modem card but says for the oem product: unknown....03:18
CarlFKus is down again?... duh.03:18
nemikIIEars, i just need to install curl, not a kernal03:18
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bobthegoatwhen I try to log on in windows same thing is still happening.03:18
matjan_also... i noticed that the display on my monitor was curved... how can that be?03:18
pfpbobthegoat: did you restart samba?03:19
miraclebluehmm, im trying to add a skin to my usr/share/xmms/skins directory, but apparantly i dont have permissions to write to the folder.  how would i be able to write to the folder as root?03:19
bobthegoatpfp yes03:19
nemikok i got it, thanks everyone03:19
IcemanV9miracleblue: use 'sudo'03:20
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CarlFKhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/web/curl - so that that mean it is in "main"?03:20
miracleblueIcemanV9: sudo?  where to i get it03:20
pfpbobthegoat: hmm... im running out of answers soon :/ you could try logging in locally with smbclient03:20
IcemanV9miracleblue: type 'sudo cp <filename> /usr/share/xmms/skins/<filename>'03:21
Razor-Xououoeuouhmmm03:21
bobthegoatpfp ok thanks for all your help03:21
Razor-Xerrr, sorry!03:21
miracleblueIcemanV9 oh i see ^_^03:21
Razor-Xhmmm, what's a good solution to transfer files over networks?03:21
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Razor-Xbecause, us.archive is down03:22
Razor-Xso, i'm not getting anything of the repos03:22
Knudplease help: http://img156.echo.cx/img156/3196/kernelpanic3li.jpg03:22
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zerokillswoot, im about to buy Cedega03:22
pfpRazor-X: uk.archive.... seems to work (as fi. is same as uk.)03:23
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Razor-Xpfp: ok03:23
ukatocan anyone advise me on something03:23
CarlFKRazor-X - scp03:23
ghatakWhat is the kernel shipped with 5.0403:23
matjan_did someone look at my question?03:23
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AmaranthKnud: Does it happen every time? Does it happen with the install CD?03:24
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Knudyes the install cd03:24
Knudand yes everytime03:24
Knudtryed both vmware and vpc03:24
Knudallthought i didnt get the error while trying the live bootcd03:24
AmaranthKnud: Try the live CD on a real machine.03:25
Knudi did03:25
Knudbut03:25
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Knudit didnt like my vga card03:25
IcemanV9ghatak: 2.6.1003:25
bobthegoatpfp, I fixed it!03:25
ghatakIcemanV9: cool thanks03:25
AmaranthKnud: what kind of card?03:25
geetergodhttp://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=23680&CatId=10703:25
miracleblueIcemanV9: it isnt working...03:25
geetergodcan someone go to that link03:25
geetergod?03:25
geetergodthats my soundcard, whats that wire for?03:25
Knudati x850xt03:25
pfpbobthegoat: cool! what was is?03:25
pfp*it03:25
wulfepuplooks like it's all up and running .. haven';t actually tried anything yet though.03:26
IcemanV9miracleblue: i'm sorry? what do you mean?03:26
AmaranthKnud: Oh, once you get Ubuntu installed for real on that machine you can get the xorg-driver-fglrx and it should work fine.03:26
Amarantherr, the xorg-driver-fglrx package03:26
HrdwrBoBgeetergod: it's a fibre SPDIF link I think03:26
Knudthats just it03:26
bobthegoatpfp, fyi what I did was create a file called smbusers the the only thing I put in it was systemusername = windows user name with the windows machine name on it. so windowscomputername/windowsusername. and then rstarted samba03:26
Knudi wanna try it before i install it for real03:26
geetergodHrdwrBob, whats it do? do i need it hooked in?03:27
bobthegoatpfp I got the smbusers file from the samba help that mentioned it03:27
AmaranthKnud: what does the live cd do when you boot it on the actual computer?03:27
TokenBadhow get audio and video codecs for ubuntu?03:27
HrdwrBoBgeetergod: no03:27
AmaranthKnud: saying it doesn't like your video card doesn't say much03:27
geetergodok good03:27
miracleblueIcemanV9: I cd to the directory that the file I want to move is in, and i typed "sudo cp Winamp_X_XMMS_1.01.tar.gz /usr/share/xmms/skins/Winamp_X_XMMS_1.01.tar.gz" i think i wrote the command wrong03:27
Knudheh03:27
Knudsomething error while loading x03:27
geetergodHrdwrBoB, I cant seem to get my surround speakers and center speaker to work, any ideas?03:27
bobthegoatTokenBad, ubuntuguide.org03:27
pfpbobthegoat: cool, i have to remember that, thx03:27
AmaranthKnud: :/03:27
geetergodHrdwrBoB, i just put the new card in03:27
Knud;\03:27
P229is there any easy way to configure/enable sound in 5.04?03:27
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miracleblueIcemanV9: I'm an uber n00b03:28
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IcemanV9miracleblue: looks fine to me. did the error msg shows up?03:28
HrdwrBoBgeetergod: that's most likely a software issue03:28
geetergodHrdwrBoB, i have a 5.1 speaker system, the sound is a ton better with this new card...03:29
miracleblueyep, said "cannot create regular file 'usr/share/xmms/skins/Winamp_X_XMMS_1.01.tar.gz': No such file or directory"03:29
geetergodHrdwrBoB, can you help me with the software?03:29
CarlFKduh - how do I reset my password in hoary?03:29
MezCarlFK, from a console03:30
Meztype03:30
Mezpasswd03:30
IcemanV9miracleblue: you know what? you can do it in your local directory - ~/.xmms/Skins03:30
CarlFKMez - if I could get to it... I can't remember what I set it to last time I did that ;)03:30
Mezah :P03:31
IcemanV9miracleblue: that would be a lot easier03:31
pfpCarlFK: boot from livecd, chroot to your system (as root), then 'passwd yourlogin'03:31
miracleblueIcemanV9: uh...how would i access that directory?  (excuse my n00bness)03:31
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Adrossare there any linux based programs that can convert avi to ogg without losing syncing and making the actual movie res smaller?03:31
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IIIEarsmiracleblue - CTRL+H will toggle hidden files to viewable03:32
geetergodhow do you run a CD?03:32
CarlFKpfp - ugh.  isn't there a way to drop to a # prompt from boot?  like init=/bin/bash (only somthing that works ;)03:32
miracleblueah, cool03:32
miraclebluethanks ^_^03:32
zerokillsshould i download Cedega file .deb or .tgz?03:32
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CarlFKAdross - have hyou looked at transcode?03:32
matjan_hi syntaxerror6403:32
NazyrIIIEars: only error I could find was about hardware system clock03:33
Adrosstrans...code?03:33
IcemanV9miracleblue: type 'ls .xmms' - you'll see some stuff there03:33
syntaxerror64hi matjan03:33
miraclebluehmm, no such file or directory03:33
LinuxJonesAdross, >> http://www.theora.org/theorafaq.html#4103:33
matjan_so i still haven't installed it.... in fact, i just ran the live cd03:33
IIIEarsNazyr - wDo you think commenting it out would work for a bit?03:33
SeamusLPAdross:  I use transcode / DVD::RIP (frontend) for all of my video encoding needs03:34
miracleblueIcemanV9: no such file or directory, it really hates me03:34
zerokillsguys, would Ubuntu recognize both .deb files and .tgz or just one of em?03:34
IIIEarsNazyr - it makes me nervous03:34
pfpCarlFK: dont know how that's done w/ ubuntu -  i've used the same on debian boxes though (without initrd) :)03:34
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AdrossSeamusLP: whats the conversion like?03:34
IcemanV9miracleblue: type 'cd' first, then type it again03:34
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miracleblueoh hehe ^_^ oops03:34
NazyrIIIEars: well the weird bit is this .. I can boot to rescue mode and it doesnt kernel panic .. and .. it doesnt error on loading hardware clock03:34
zerokillsanyone, Ubuntu uses .deb?03:34
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toresbeyes03:34
IIIEarsNazyr - give me a sec. the wiki has something i think.03:34
SeamusLPAdross:  What do you mean?03:34
zerokillsk thx03:34
miracleblueIcemanV9: So i type "cd lp .xmms"?03:34
matjan_syntaxerror64: my screen acts funny i run the live cd03:35
miracleblueoops03:35
miraclebluei mean ls03:35
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AdrossSeamusLP: the quality, when you convert a file to ogg03:35
Adrossdo you lose any?03:35
mushynobile03:35
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nobilemushy03:35
mushyi found you03:35
nobileyes03:35
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nobileit wasn't hard03:35
nobileyou could see my channels03:36
SeamusLPAdross ogg is a container... are you talking about vorbis audio?03:36
mushyyes it was03:36
syntaxerror64matjan_: what do you mean03:36
Adrosstheora video03:36
nobilewhy was it?03:36
Adrossconverting avi to mpg03:36
mushybecause im an idiot everything is hard for me03:36
Adrossdo you lose much quality?03:36
rommeris there an easy way via like a script to connect to a wpa protected wireless router using wpasupplicant03:36
SeamusLPAdross I've never used theora video, but I assume its a lossy compression.  If you want any decent filesize you use lossy compression.  The amount of loss you gets depends on the bitrate you pick -- I usually go with about 1200 for decent video / audio quality03:36
matjan_syntaxerror64: the desktop is not displayed properly on my monitor03:36
SeamusLPI use xvid403:36
matjan_it is curved on the left and right side03:37
Adrossthanksyou SeamusLP, cya later03:37
ukatoif i don't want gnome anymore, is synaptic the easiest way to uninstall it?03:37
nobileI'm the idiot03:37
syntaxerror64matjan_: need to adjust the pincushion on your monitor it sounds like03:38
matjan_??03:38
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geetergodHow do you run a CD?03:39
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jegerevanHi All!03:40
geetergodhey jegerevan03:40
Nazyrgettergod: define what you mean by "run" .. what are you trying to do with the CD?03:40
geetergodits the software for my new soundcard03:40
Nazyrgeetergod: and it has linux drivers on it?03:41
geetergodwell i was wondering if i was able to get a linux driver for something like that03:41
jegerevanIm looking to share experiences with people that have deployed ubuntu in the corporate environment. Something im really interested in doing!03:41
Nazyrgettergod: I would check the sound card company in questions website to see if they support linux .. to access the CD you are going to need to mount the drive03:42
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PhantomFreakDoes anyone know how to get the gnome-applet cpufreq-applet to work?03:42
IIIEarsNazyr - Gathered more info but no solution it seems fairly common. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28677 http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3599403:43
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TokenBadok I was doing what one site said to get the codecs and stuff for audio and video03:43
geetergodNazyr, the 2 mainspeakers and sub works, but the surround and center speaker doesnt03:44
TokenBadbut when type the stuff in03:44
geetergodNazyr, so I dont think i have something enabled03:44
TokenBadafter a bit it says Failed to fetch blah blah blah03:44
TokenBadso if running into that03:44
TokenBadany suggestions03:44
TokenBadsome will install03:44
TokenBadand others will not03:44
Nazyrgettergod: I havent ever been able to get my surround to work correctly in Linux03:45
HerdsmanMarengoanyone know where C header files are located by default?03:45
TokenBadE: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?03:45
NazyrIIIEars: danke .. Ill see where I can go from there .. thanks for the assist03:45
TokenBadits says that also03:45
geetergodHas anyone been able to get surround sound working in linux?03:45
luqini'm seeing a bunch of md5sum mismatch messages when trying to install various things03:45
Amaranthluqin: /topic03:46
BockBilbois it possible to make an init script run before ubuntu's network config?03:46
luqinhrm, dns update to ubuntu.mirrors.tds.net, the culprit?03:47
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FR500BockBilbo, sure it is possible, but i think you need to do a System V style script or something03:48
FR500i think03:48
BockBilboFR500, where do i do that? in the update-rc.d command?03:48
FR500BockBilbo, i dont really know03:48
BockBilbook03:48
BockBilbothanks03:48
FR500BockBilbo, otherwise, a dirty way i used sometime was editing the net script to call another script on startup03:48
FR500BockBilbo, what do you need to do?03:49
BockBilboi need it to configue my wlan03:49
BockBilbocard03:49
NazyrIIIEars: neither of those linked forum issues are related to my problem =) but thanks for trying03:49
FR500BockBilbo, what exactly?03:49
BockBilbowell turn the modules on03:49
BockBilboand ifup the iface03:49
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geetergodCan someone help me with my soundcard/speakers in a private message?03:50
IIIEarsNazyr - I hope you can install Ubuntu it's a pleasure having you in this channel. - good luck.03:50
FR500BockBilbo, what module do u load?03:50
BockBilboACX11103:51
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BockBilbowell its called acx10003:51
FR500you run modprobe acx100?03:51
BockBilboive just compied them03:51
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BockBilbonope03:51
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BockBilboi run a script03:51
BockBilbowhich does everything to make the card work fine03:51
johnnybezakhey guys i need to connect to a computer with the ip 10.0.2.2 but i don't know the netmask, and when i run ifconfig i just get "netmask 0xffffff00" any ideas on what the netmask is (sorry im a tcp/ip noob)03:51
luqin255.255.255.003:52
Delirus42Eh, I have a quick question:  what's the ubuntu utility that configures x?    I remember there's a special one, but I forget the name of it.03:52
Jormundganddpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:52
Jormundgand?03:52
|QuaD-Delirus42: you on hoary or breezy?03:52
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chatinghelo03:53
rixthWell, that was rather scary, booted my PC and mount was segfaulting.03:53
Delirus42|QuaD hoary03:53
|QuaD-Delirus42: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (as Jormundgand said :) )03:53
Delirus42Thanks very much03:53
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chatingftp.nerim.net down ?03:54
Amaranthchating: You shouldn't use marillat, it's known to break ubuntu installs.03:54
chatingican't get some packet from there03:54
chatingAmaranth, so ?03:54
IIIEarsDelirius42 - sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg sudo sudo su su sudio - okay i like music03:56
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IIIEarsphil collins and ubuntu - hm03:57
miraclebluewhee, some drum n bass fun ^_^03:57
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miraclebluefinally, i got Linux playing music again, and properly too03:57
CrustyPunkUgh. Where does AllegroCS install to?03:57
SeamusLPIIIEars: Is that who provided the sound effects? ;)03:58
chatingAmaranth, thx,i use backports now :-)03:58
miraclebluenext is just getting gaim to flash on the taskbar as a notification when new messages arrive03:58
rixthmiracleblue, tell me! tell me!03:59
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rixthI havn't found a way to do that.03:59
black_Nightmarehey there03:59
miraclebluerixth: same, thats what i wanna get it to do, if i find one, ill let u know04:00
CrustyPunkDoes anyone know where AllegroCL is installed? O04:00
P229is there any easy way to configure/enable sound in 5.04? I'm sorry if someone already responded to this... if they did, it's long since scrolled of my screen04:00
misfit-toyhmm, getting delayed mousification and typing and graphics, but just a tiny bit....this is day 3 of ubuntu for me, just noticed it....04:00
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CrustyPunk, being asked where it is by libsdl-mixer04:00
rixthThe best I've got is installing the Message Notification plugin, it just puts (*) at the start of the window name on the taskbar04:00
rixthTHere's also guifications which can do MSN-Windows style popups by the tray04:01
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miraclebluerixth: how do i activate those?04:01
miraclebluerixth: the notification windows04:02
miraclebluerixth: litytle pop-up thingys04:02
IIIEarsConfigure sound properly - Here >>> :)  http://ubuntuguide.org/04:02
JormundgandFailed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/restricted/source/Sources.gz  This HTTP server has broken range support [IP: 82.211.81.151 80] 04:02
Jormundgando_O04:02
rixthmiracleblue, Google Guifications :)04:02
CrustyPunkDoes anyone know where AllegroCL is installed?04:02
miraclebluerixth: okie dokie, thanks04:03
rixthI guess it's not wise to use Etch yet? :) Also, how do I work this damn jigdo thing?04:03
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islanderhello04:04
islanderI am trying to install a boot splash, but I can not find the kernel folder04:04
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islanderwhat I have is /usr/src/rpm04:05
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thoreauputicrixth: etch? Are you in the right channel? :) Etch is Debian...04:05
geetergod"There is no input plugin available to handle 'dvd:/' Maybe MRL syntax is wrong or file/stream source doesnt exist.04:05
geetergodthats what it says in xine when i try to watch a dvd04:05
geetergodwhats that mean?04:05
psychonate|awayI want to build the device3dfx driver, but I don't know what to do with it.04:05
psychonate|awayIt's src code in /usr/src/modules04:06
chatingwhile i want to upgrade, i got WARNIG04:06
chatingDo you want to continue [Y/n] ? y04:06
chatingWARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!04:06
psychonate|awayJust using 'make' didn't do anything.04:06
chatinghow to fix it?04:06
psychonate|awaymake: *** [sanity]  Error 25504:06
geetergodThe source cant be read. Maybe you dont have enough rights for this, or source doesnt contain data04:06
JormundgandNo fix, just ignore the warning, chating.04:06
rixthOh sorry guys! I have both #debian open too :)04:07
geetergodanyone know?04:07
IIIEarshow to install graphics driver nvidia. >> here  http://ubuntuguide.org/04:07
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miraclebluerixth: So, how would i install the Guifications?04:08
islanderI am trying to install a bootsplash, but I can not find my kernel folder, all that I have is /usr/src/rpm04:08
rixthmiracleblue, you need to compile it04:08
miraclebluerixth: ah, ok, so the normal way04:09
rixthmiracleblue, let me get them, I havn't actually got them installed04:09
Knuddev input for usb mice?04:09
rixth/input/mice04:09
miraclebluerixth: do they need to be compiled in like a specific plugins folder, or will it do that for itself, or what?04:09
rixthI'm not sure, let me try and get them :)04:10
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islanderhow do I install a bootsplash04:10
JormundgandYay! New Xorg in the repos.04:10
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miraclebluerixth: ok, no worries ^_^04:10
islanderI don't know where to find my kernel04:11
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islanderDoes anybody have a clue where can I find it04:11
weezerHow much space is required for a full ubuntu install?04:11
Mezweezer04:11
Mezbout 1.9 Gb04:11
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Mezfor base install04:12
MezIRIRC04:12
Mez#IIRC*04:12
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geetergodwhy do i always have to type 'killall esd' in the terminal before i can use sound?04:12
weezerMez: so is ~4gb enough for a full?04:12
islanderWhere can I find ubuntu kernel04:12
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Mezyeah04:12
Mezmost people find 3Gb plenty04:12
weezerMez: does that include swap?04:12
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geetergodwhy do i always have to type 'killall esd' in the terminal before i can use sound?04:13
Mezwell04:13
weezerhttp://www.ubuntulinux.org04:13
islanderbecause it is not on /usr/src/Linux, what I have is /usr/src/rpm04:13
Mez3gb fgor the file system is enough + some to play around with04:13
Mezmy swap is 1Gb04:13
weezerMez: oh so a 4gb partition should be fine then04:13
mengabout the new fgrlx drivers, should i use automatic or custom install?04:13
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EvanCarrollthat all depends on what you want to install04:13
cthulfuegois X in breezy still hoprribly broken?04:14
weezerMez: cool thanks04:14
islanderThis is unbeiliveble04:14
geetergodwhy do i always have to type 'killall esd' in the terminal before i can use sound?04:14
Mezweezer - hopefully - if you set up a swap and filesyetm in it04:14
EvanCarrollcase and point, kde with copy of install debs will cost you about 1.5gb04:14
mengi just need 3d acceleration to work04:14
weezerMez: I have 768 megs of ram and am not serving so not terribly concerned with the swap:)04:14
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EvanCarrollcthulfuego: breezy works fine for me04:14
islanderthere anybody here competent enoght to answer the question04:14
cthulfuegoEvanCarroll: Cool.04:14
mengi wonder if anyone has issues with the latest driver installer04:14
Fingertipshello04:14
weezerMez: just make a 500meg one or something04:14
EvanCarrollusynic: your question is fucking stupid google04:15
EvanCarrollerr that to islander04:15
Mezweezer - It's RECCOMENDED that you ALWAYS have swap space AT LEAST DOUBLE your RAM04:15
Fingertipswhat is the command for creating a mount point? mkdir /???/windows04:15
BockBilbocan anyone tell me why do i get this error: *Starting internet superserver. || Starting MySQL Database server:mysqld. ||Checking for crashed MySQL tables in the background. ||/usr/bin/mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed ||error: 'Access denied for user: 'debian-sys-maint@localhost' (Using password:'YES')04:15
GeoffrianI just typed this.04:15
geetergodwhy do i always have to type 'killall esd' in the terminal before i can use sound?04:15
Fingertipshow do i purge processes?04:15
EvanCarrollMez: no it is suggested that you keep swap at most double you ram.04:15
cthulfuegoislander: There won't be an /usr/src/linux until you install a kernel source tree.04:15
islanderhow can I do that04:16
weezerMez: too ture, but I am not hardcore linux yet so it should be enough for me for now:)04:16
thoreauputicMez: the 2x swap rule is rather outdated now, with so many people having buckets of RAM04:16
cthulfuegoEvanCarroll: That is true only for OLD  (pre 2.4.10) kernels.04:16
EvanCarrollcthulfuego: no it isn't04:16
cthulfuegoEvanCarroll: yes, it is.04:16
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weezerMez: think I will go do the install and see how it goes, thanks04:16
cthulfuegoEvanCarroll: On those old kernels, the swapper took a massive performance hit with swap < 2x ram. That problem no longer exists.04:16
zerokillswoo! im installing Half-Life 204:17
EvanCarrollSwap is only used when you exhaust all your ram, if you end up moving into swap you either have a memmory leak, or are doing something rediciolusly abnormal, excessive swap is a waste of space04:17
Daveywhat does it mean when a package says it conflicts with something but I can't find that thing in the package manager? :)04:17
FingertipsEvanCarroll, do you know hwo to purge processes in linux?04:17
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SeamusLPzerokills:  I hear it runs well in cedega04:17
EvanCarrollFingertips: Yes, kill -s904:17
cthulfuegoEvanCarroll: Swap is used to page out unused apps, so ram is freed for disk cache. The system doesn't _only_ start using swap when ram runs out.04:17
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thoreauputicEvanCarroll: umm... not quite... you don't have to run out of RAM to start swapping04:17
islanderEvaCarroll: Would you watch your language04:17
cthulfuegoEvanCarroll: I imagine the kernel will even swap out clean pages04:18
IIIEarsislander http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto/04:18
MezEvan 2 x or more and thore - which is why I sadi "reccomended"04:18
FingertipsFingertips, how do i see what processes are running04:18
EvanCarrollcthulfuego: yes it does.04:18
islanderthank you04:18
EvanCarrollcthulfuego: type free, it should read 0 used swap04:18
rixthmiracleblue, you need to get the source package of gaim, apt-get source gaim04:18
MezThe size of your swap partition should be equal to twice your computer's RAM, or 32 MB, whichever amount is larger, but no more than 2048 MB (or 2 GB)04:18
thoreauputicMez: OK :)04:18
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cthulfuegoEvanCarroll: Please, go and read up on the VM subsystem.04:18
FingertipsEvanCarroll, how do i look @ the processes running04:18
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EvanCarrollFingertips: ps -aux04:19
EvanCarrollcthulfuego: please run the utility 'free'04:19
cthulfuego             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached04:19
cthulfuegoMem:       1020276     992228      28048          0      45524     39357204:19
cthulfuego-/+ buffers/cache:     553132     46714404:19
cthulfuegoSwap:      1953488      74208    187928004:19
cthulfuegoEvanCarroll: Now go and read up on how the VM system works <heh>04:19
geetergodwhy do i always have to type 'killall esd' in the terminal before i can use sound?04:19
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EvanCarrollthen you have a problem, I have 3 linux boxes in front of me, two of them are running x, with numerious apps running one with 512 megs of ram the other with a gig no swap utilization both 2.6 kernels04:20
cthulfuegoEvanCarroll: No, there is no problem. You are ignorant on the subject you're trying to lecture me on.04:20
thoreauputicEvanCarroll: you are misinformed04:20
miraclebluerixth: when you find out how to install thatstuff, plz send me a private msg, cause i just need to cook food for the monent04:20
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islanderEvanCarroll: Who are you04:21
miraclebluerixth: thanks ^_^04:21
cthulfuegogeetergod: Are your sound apps configured to use ESD?04:21
islanderEvanCarroll: is Mr Linux04:21
geetergodcthulfuego, i dunno, can you please help me with my sound?04:22
IIIEarsEvanCarrol is Finnish?04:22
geetergodcthulfuego, maybe that'll help me with my surround sound problem04:22
Daveyhow do I find out which serial port something is on?04:22
cthulfuegoEvanCarroll: The kernel _will_ swap out apps and services that have been idle for a long time, it will use the ram that frees up as disk cache, this provided a net performance _gain_.04:22
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cthulfuegoDavey: Try all, see which one works.04:23
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geetergodcthulfuego, Can you help me with my sound or are you busy?04:23
cthulfuegogeetergod: I'm busy.04:24
Daveycthulfuego: heh, thats not fun ;)04:24
geetergodcthulfuego, k04:24
Daveycthulfuego: I don't even know which dev devices they are on04:24
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rixthrixth@bear:~/Desktop/guifications-2.10/gaim-1.1.4/gaim-1.1.4$ sudo apt-get install libglib2.0-dev04:26
rixthReading package lists... Done04:26
rixthSegmentation faulty tree... 50%04:26
rixthGah.04:26
IIIEars EvanCarrol  feeling daring and have ram to spare? sysctl -a | grep vm    vm.overcommit_memory = 104:26
shanonWhat is a good news reader for ubuntu (gnome) desktop that handles binarys ?04:27
TokenBadbah04:27
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TokenBadkeep getting errors trying to install some codecs04:28
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EvanCarrollIIIEars: mine is set to 004:28
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Kamping_KaiserWOOOT. Back in Gnome :)04:28
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CarlFKso I booted with init=/bin/bash, but / is mounted RO - how do I mout it RW?04:30
rixth What do you do when apt-get segfaults? It only does it if it's an install, apt-get update doesn't kill it, but apt-get install does.04:31
CarlFKcry04:31
EvanCarrollrixth: run an strace on apt and file a bug report04:32
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rixthgettimeofday({1118457144, 644420}, NULL) = 0 --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) @ 0 (0) --- +++ killed by SIGSEGV +++ **************** It did 'gettimeofday' many, many times before it died.04:32
EvanCarrollNow file a bug a report04:33
CarlFKhttp://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/04:33
misfit-toyhmm, getting delayed mousification and typing and graphics, but just a tiny bit....this is day 3 of ubuntu for me, just noticed it....04:33
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cleeheh, ok, so the us archive having corrupted debs on it is a known issue? :)04:34
IIIEarsmisfit-toy what does your process list look like? "ps -e" or resources? "top"04:35
jegerevanhas anyone rolled out ubuntu in the enterprise here ?04:35
dstillzclee: I can't get kubuntu becasue of MD5Sum mismatch; do you think that might be related to whatever issue you're having?04:35
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cleedstillz: yep04:35
cleedstillz: I just replaced 'us.archive' with 'archive' in my sources.list04:36
IIIEarsmisfit-toy - Agh - ahem please don't paste it in channel. - whew got that out04:36
Kamping_Kaiserjegerevan, what do you mean exactly?04:36
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Kamping_Kaiserhi holycow04:37
holycowmr. kaiser :)04:37
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jegerevankamping: basically deployed ubuntu to a number of desktops..in a medium sized business environment..04:37
Kamping_Kaiserjegerevan, yes, but only as thin clients ;)04:38
EvanCarrolldstillz: is the md5sum mismatch on libgnomeui ?04:38
dstillzIt's on a significant number of packages.04:38
dstillzBut they're all KDE-related, from what I can tell.04:38
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jegerevangotchya. How many clients are you running ?04:38
cleelibgcrypt11, libaudiofile, libgtk2.004:39
cleeetc, etc04:39
cleethose were mine04:39
Kamping_Kaiserjegerevan, a dozen or so04:39
zerokillsSeamusLP: have you ever ran games on Cedega before? this is my first time04:39
IIIEarsubotu what is amnesia?04:39
ubotuIIIEars: I think you lost me on that one04:39
Kamping_Kaiserthey were stand alone, untill the server was there04:39
misfit-toyIIIEars, interesting, firestarter is gobbling up 39%04:39
Kamping_Kaisernow they are thin clients04:39
EvanCarrolldstillz: you can force an install excluding those packages with mismatches, or you can hack the md5sums to force an install of the possibly corrupted file (this could be bad if mirror was hacked)04:39
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cleeEvanCarroll: no, they're definitely corrupted04:39
cleeEvanCarroll: I think that the server has corrupted copies of the files04:39
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EvanCarrollclee: extract the downloaded deb and find out, the deb should fail to extract if not properly formatted04:40
dstillzThe packages are no good.  The actual .debs, I mean.04:40
IIIEarsmisfit-toy - I am only a few weeks old at this someone has the answer with the info you provided04:40
dstillzThe ones it says are corrupted.04:40
jegerevankamping, I see. Basically I support a network of around 50 desktops..all running 2000 at the moment. Would really love to move over to open source\ubuntu. Not sure whether think\thick clients would be the way to go!04:40
phxguyhas anyone here installed the new linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 from synaptic yet?04:40
cleeEvanCarroll: that's what I did, dude.04:40
Kamping_Kaiserjegerevan, what do the clients do?04:41
jegerevankamping, would also need to make sure its possible to integrate into AD for authentication04:41
Kamping_KaiserAD?04:41
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phxguyanyone????04:41
jegerevanactive directory04:41
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Knudanyone help me? failed to initialize core devices when trying to start x04:41
Kamping_Kaiserphxguy yes, but its not new04:41
peloverdeIs there a way to make gnome search say ~/pixmaps before $datadir/pixmaps when finding icons?04:42
phxguythere a new version of it Kamping_Kaiser04:42
jegerevankamping, most are quite basic. Email, internet, ms office + one custom app.04:42
misfit-toyIIIEars, no prob, just checking the support here, it's been fairly good so far...wow I have keyboard lag too04:42
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IIIEarsmisfit-toy - if you feel bold "killall firestarter" or kill PID_that_is_firestarter04:42
phxguyits 2.6.10-34.204:42
cleekillall, pff04:42
cleepkill is so much cooler04:42
misfit-toyIIIEars, I don't want to kill my firewall ;)04:42
Kamping_Kaiserjegerevan, if they are willing to learn OO.o (or you use crossover) the "custom app" is your only problem... but whats AD?04:42
Kamping_Kaiseroh you said04:43
cleeactive directory04:43
kakaltoCould someone please help? I'm trying to install a 2cd game onto wine, and the setup is now asking for the 2nd cd. I can't umount the cd, to put in cd2. What can I do?04:43
thoreauputicmisfit-toy: actually you wouldn't - firestarter is just an iptables front end04:43
EvanCarrollkakalto: have you tried eject?04:43
EvanCarrollkakalto: that is the 'eject' utility04:43
EvanCarrollkakalto: or umount -l04:43
Kamping_Kaiserjegerevan, yes i think ADs supported (it better be ;))04:43
IIIEarsthoreauputic - can it corrupt anything if it misbehaves?04:43
kakaltoeject didn't work04:44
kakaltobut umount -l did04:44
kakaltothanks04:44
jegerevankamping.. yes crossover is an option definately for the MS office apps. But the thing is, we are running MS 2003 server..in a domain environment. So would need ubuntu to be able to join a windows domain.04:44
phxguyguess ill install it and hope for the best since im getting much in here04:44
thoreauputicIIIEars: not really - having the GUI running isn't necessary at all, and AFAIK that's all you would kill04:44
misfit-toythoreauputic, but it's not firestarter, it's something else, can't put my finger on it...I get a lag on any input, mouse, keybd, etc...like very 5 seconds04:44
thoreauputicmisfit-toy: hmmm... I don't know04:44
Kamping_Kaiserjegerevan, it can I'm 90% sure, and if it wont, apt-get whatever whould work04:44
geetergodDoes linux suck for sound stuff?04:45
Kamping_Kaiserlol04:45
syndgeetergod: why you say that?04:45
kakaltoEvanCarroll, never mind, that didn't work04:45
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geetergodJust because it seems nobody can get their 5.1 surround sound to work04:45
Knudanyone help me? failed to initialize core devices when trying to start x04:45
misfit-toythoreauputic, yeah, now firestarter is back to 4%, it was just checking shit...this is weird.04:45
EvanCarrollkakalto: what did it do?04:45
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kakaltonever mind, it did work04:45
kakaltoEvanCarroll, thanks04:45
kakaltoI just needed to sudo eject04:45
syndmisfit-toy: i got that wireless card working : P04:45
Kamping_Kaiserknud, check the log, what fialed?04:46
danrienhey people04:46
Kamping_Kaiserhey04:46
misfit-toysynd, you already got it?04:46
danrieni kinda got a question for u pros04:46
geetergodsynd, ive been looking through the forums and see people with the same problem as me.. cant get their 5.1 surround sound to work with linux04:46
misfit-toysynd, I'm happy I was able to provide you a new toy!04:46
syndmisfit-toy: : )04:46
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syndgeetergod: are you using ubuntu for DVD?04:46
KnudKamping_Kaiser04:46
Knudthe mouse apparentkly04:46
danrienhaha alright04:47
IIIEarsthoreauputic - the easiest way would be a firestarter reinstall but, - grin - i am curious would tail and dmsg to a log be possible? syntax?04:47
danrienilljust get it out04:47
geetergodI use it for everything, gameplay, dvd's, music04:47
danrieni have an amd64 system and i cant get wine to install04:47
danrienwith 64 distro04:47
syndgeetergod: 5.1 music?04:47
Kamping_Kaiserknud, thats not a core device :S04:47
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thoreauputicIIIEars: you know more than me on those subjects, I'd say04:47
thoreauputic:)04:47
Knudaha it said failed to initialize pointer04:47
geetergodhave a 7.1 sound card and 5.1 speakers i cant get the surrounds and center speaker to work04:47
IIIEarslol - erm. - you are ever the humble guru. sorry to bother you.04:48
syndgeetergod: : /04:48
Kamping_Kaiserknud, not sure off the top of my head04:48
geetergodsynd, I see a lot of people have this problem with linux unfortunately04:48
Knudwhere can i find the log04:49
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Knudi'm new04:49
syndgeetergod: its not so much linux as it is the developers of your card04:49
syndproviding drivers, id say04:49
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Kamping_Kaiserknud /var/log/04:49
danriendoes anybody have wine working an amd64 system?04:50
xterminusi get 5.1 sound okay - but i have to explicitly tell my media player to output an ac3 signal (i currently use the soundstorm chipset, but i've used sblive and audigy cards for sound too)04:50
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xterminusw/ mplayer it's something like mplayer -hwac3 filename04:51
Knudconfugyred mouse cannot open input device unloadmodule mouse04:51
Knudno core pointer registered04:51
Knudfatal server error: failed to initialize core devices04:51
Knudthats what it says in the log04:51
dstillzI wish there was some way to speed GNOME up.04:52
kakaltowhere can I configure wine's drives (C:, D:. E:. etc. )04:52
kakalto?04:52
synddstillz: how much RAM you got?04:52
danrienhmmmm??04:52
IIIEarsdanrien - Hello! - You can help me! If the system locks up mouse/cursor after showing showing the desk and the boot log shows system clock errors what is the tip? hint?04:52
Kamping_Kaiserkakalto ~/.wine/04:52
IIIEarsAMD 6404:52
Kamping_Kaiseriirc04:53
danrienyes04:53
dstillzsynd: 512MB04:53
kakaltoKamping_Kaiser, which file? I tried config, but the drives weren't stated in the file04:53
cthulfuegodanrien: It works on occasion in the 32bit chroot, yes.04:53
synddstillz: gnomes probably not going to get much faster ; )04:53
Kamping_KaiserXorg.0.log04:54
synddstillz: you ought to try xfce, if you havent yet. it should cure your speed woes04:54
cthulfuegodstillz: What sort of cpu?04:54
Kamping_Kaisersynd. isnt novel doing some optomisations?04:54
dstillzcthulfuego: 1.5GHz Pentium Mobile04:54
syndKamping_Kaiser: no idea04:54
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cthulfuegodstillz: Gnome should be pretty much instantaneous on that.04:55
synddstillz: i agree04:55
danriencthulfuego: ok so it might work on a 64bit system?04:55
synddstillz: how slow is it?04:55
gm78Hi all. If i have a directory of source code that has subdirectories and i want to search that entire directory and all of its subdirectories for a single word (inside text files) how do i do that?04:55
cthulfuegodanrien: *only* in a 32bit chroot.04:55
EvanCarrollgm78: grep -R 'word' ./*04:55
dstillzsynd: I can see things redraw when I switch between windows, and there's a perceptible delay in menus04:56
KnudKamping_Kaiser there was fonts missing04:56
Knudgot it working now04:56
dstillzI'm running the latest nvidia drivers04:56
Kamping_Kaisercool ok :)  done knud04:56
gm78EvanCarrol : thank you....do i put the '  ' in it too?04:56
cthulfuegodstillz: Is your HD running at normal speed, in DMA mode?04:56
EvanCarrollgm78: they are implicit04:56
danriencthulfuego: ok i dont know what that means but im guessing it means im going to have to work some magic04:56
synddstillz: hm. i run gnome on a 1.7ghz celeron with 512MB RAM and i dont experience that. DMA on your HD perhaps?04:56
IIIEarsdstillz - is glxgears giving any clues?04:57
syndah, what cthulfuego said04:57
dstillzglxgears runs lightning fast04:57
cthulfuegodanrien: https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html#id27429304:57
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Knudallthough now it seems kde got stuck on initializing perpherals04:57
Kamping_Kaiserdstillz, is it going into powersaving?04:57
dstillzKamping_Kaiser: I don't ever intend to unplug it, so I have it at maximum speed04:58
danrienthanks man04:58
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EvanCarrollgm78: but they won't hurt, see man pages for grep and rgrep and egrep04:58
danrienwhats the command for whispering btw? haha04:58
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dstillzIIIEars: I'm getting 2090fps in glxgears04:58
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EvanCarrolldstillz: then you have 3d acceleration enabled04:58
concept10has abyone recompiled the kernel? is the same as recompiling debian?04:58
cthulfuegosynd: PPC ubuntu runs fine on them right now.04:59
gm78EvanCarroll : OK. lets use red hat as an example. if i wanted to look for red hat copyright notices in some source code, i could do grep -R 'red hat' ./sourcedirectory/*04:59
syndcthulfuego: i agree04:59
cthulfuegoconcept10: You can use make-kpkg, yes.04:59
concept10cthulfuego: thanks04:59
syndcthulfuego: but triple boot OS X, Ubuntu, and WinXP sounds fun.04:59
dukeni want to convert my wallpapper to splasimage.xpm, what packet i must to install for convert utilitis ?04:59
EvanCarrollgm78: i would prefer 'grep -Ri 'red hat' ./sourcedir/*05:00
cthulfuegosynd: Apart from the WinXP bit. Why install a shit OS? ;-)05:00
Kamping_Kaiserare shutdown messages logged somewhere?05:00
syndcthulfuego: gaming05:00
EvanCarrollgm78: becuase grep is case sensative by default05:00
thoreauputicgm78: case sensitive, and I think Redhat is one word ;)05:00
EvanCarrollKamping_Kaiser: yes, /etc/wtmp, or last05:00
EvanCarrollKamping_Kaiser: failed logins in /etc/btmp05:00
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Kamping_Kaiserk. ta.05:00
gm78EvanCarroll: i tried grep -Rc 'red hat' ./source/*  to count the amount of times they show up, but it lists a number for each file, not a total number. is there a way i can get a total number05:01
EvanCarrollKamping_Kaiser: err no, its /var/log/wtmp, /var/log/btmp sorry05:01
cthulfuegogm78: pipe the output into "wc -l"05:01
Kamping_Kaiserevancarroll, i guesd ;)05:01
cthulfuegogm78: "rgrep -i 'red hat' ./sourcedir | "wc -l05:01
EvanCarrollgm78: you could either concatinate the contents with cat and send to grep, or add the numbers or maybe grep for the word and pipe to wc -l05:01
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JohnnyQuestwhat is the most recent/stable version of ubuntu?05:02
thoreauputicah.. red hat is indeed 2 words, except on the logo...interesting05:02
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K_DallasJohnnyQuest, it is in the topic ;)05:03
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JohnnyQuestya, it would be05:04
JohnnyQuestand i woudlnt read it05:04
JohnnyQuesti havnt used irc in years05:04
IIIEarsdstillz - only guessing that the linux kernel sees mobile HT processors as dual processors.05:04
JohnnyQuestever since i quit playing comptuer gtames05:04
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benhi05:05
dstillzIIIEars: I think this thing is too old to support HT.  but I didn't check05:05
dstillzI simply installed fans and ribbon cables and a disk/caddy, and installed Ubuntu05:05
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gm78[ryan@ryanhp ~] $ grep -Ri 'red hat' ./linux-2.6.11.11 | wc05:08
gm78    459    4478   4355005:08
gm78[ryan@ryanhp ~] $05:08
gm78that was my output05:08
gm78what do those 3 numbers mean05:08
gm78or did i mess up the command?05:09
rixthI've install vnc4server, how do I start it?05:09
darius___wc - print the number of newlines, words, and bytes in files05:09
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darius___man pages... hate em, love em .. just use em :)05:09
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gm78ok, for my example then...that means there are 459 lines in the kernel that contain the words "red hat" ?05:10
gm78judging from the man page, thats what it means05:11
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darius___yep05:11
bokkoCan two different linux distributions share the same swap space on a system?05:11
Madpilotevening, all. can someone remind me what the little 3d test prog in Ubuntu is called? The one with the gears?05:11
CarlFKbokko - yes.05:11
EvanCarrollgm78: they aren't in the kernel they are probably comments in the source05:11
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CarlFKglxgears05:11
IIIEarsglxgears05:12
CarlFKeye wen!05:12
CarlFKoh wait... I still can't log in cuz I forgot my pw... I loose.05:12
nomasteryodalol05:12
Madpilot:) thnx, CarlFK. points for trying, IIIEars :p05:12
bokkoCarlFK; cool ok one more question, how do I set partition space on a drive as community space for both installs?05:12
IIIEarsCarlFK - you young whipper-snapper. - lol05:12
bob2bokko: "community spatcs"? you mean mounting it from both systems?05:13
gm78EvanCarroll : yeah, thats what i meant. the whole kernel thing isnt the reason im trying to figure this out, i am just using it to figure out grep since i had the source anyways. that number just seems weird05:13
bokkobob2: yes, both distributions05:13
CarlFKbokko - same lines in both fstab files05:13
miraclebluenerf!!  nerf i say05:13
EvanCarrollgm78: you can verify it if you want05:13
EvanCarrollgm78: use another method05:13
bokkoCarlFK: there any tutorials on modding fstab?  I tried to mess with it once and failed miserably05:13
darius___gm78: pull out wc to see the lines containing that text05:14
EvanCarrollgm78: find ./ -type f -exec grep -i 'red hat' | wc -l05:14
miraclebluehows it goin everyone?05:14
Madpilotwow, my glxgears FPS have tanked. same grphx card, same mobo, less than half of what I got last time I ran it...05:14
EvanCarrollerr05:14
EvanCarrollgm78: find ./ -type f -exec grep -i 'red hat' {} \; | wc -l05:14
gm78my heads going to explode :P05:14
EvanCarrollgm78: bash scripting is ugly perl is much sexier05:15
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gm78lol05:15
redbarchettahola a todo el mundo05:15
redbarchettaalguien habla espaol?05:15
redbarchettaAre you speak in spanish?05:15
thr1cenope05:16
miraclebluegm78: lol thats how i felt when i couldnt get Ubuntu to connect to my DSL connection, then i was just like "screw it" and went on my windows machine, and burned  Roaring Penguin's PPPoE config tool05:16
nobileredbarchetta hola05:16
redbarchettahola nobile05:16
nobileredbarchetta, si quieres ayuda sobre ubuntu, puedes ir a #ubuntu-es05:16
miraclebluehola...even though i dont speak spanish05:16
geetergodWhere do i configure my soundcard?05:16
gm78miracleblue : lol, yeah, i know that feeling. im fairly good with linux ive just never had a use for grep before05:16
redbarchettaok05:16
nobile=)05:17
redbarchettagracias05:17
nobilede nada =)05:17
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miraclebluehm78: im a complete n00b, but by fiddling with the pppd, i learned how to navigate with commands pretty quick05:17
geetergodDoes anyone know where to configure your soundcard?05:17
miraclebluehm78: I had to re-install Ubuntu twice05:18
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maruko`hey the fluxbux menu ( the menu that appears when i right click ) is very small05:18
miraclebluehm78: because i screwed little things up when trying to install other things the hard way, then found out about the repository multiverse lol05:18
EvanCarrollgm78: if you get bored, read 'info coreutil' and learn 5 rows of those commands a night05:18
gm78miracleblue : you should have seen me with SUSE. probably 5 or 6 reinstalls. then switched to debian/ubuntu on one machine and red hat on the other and they work great05:18
maruko`the letters just appear as small black boxes05:18
gm78CentOS actually but yeah05:19
maruko`and the width of the menu is just double the size of the cursos05:19
IIIEarsmiracleblue - can we be n00b pals? (6 weeks)05:19
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maruko`EDIT : err. the width is just the same as the cursor's width05:19
IIIEarsmiracleblue - It gets easier - thank god... - lol05:19
boowwhats with this md5 mismatch stuff05:19
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Drako60what would cause DNS servers to respond extremely slowly or not at all, other then a complete server outage05:20
miraclebluegm78: yeah, my first experience was with the all-easy all-hailed Linspire...i went into its pppoe config tool, and it froze up on me all the time, and i couldnt compile Roraring Penguin cause Linspire didnt have a gcc compiler or anything, because of its click n run thing (theyre just like microsoft, trying to get everyone to use their stuff only, and pay for it too)05:20
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gm78miracleblue : lol, yeah, linspire sucks. i never recommend it to anyone. i actually normally push CentOS cause of its long support cycle (people really care about that i find)'05:21
gm78and i like ubuntu personally05:21
boowpay for linux packages?05:21
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miracleblueyeah, pay a monthly fee to subscribe to their repository.  its shit.05:22
boowlol05:22
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gm78boow : if you are talking about linspire, then yes you do pay for them indirectly. you are actually paying for the service, you can freely redistribute the software, blah blah blah. nice idea....if only it worked like they advertise05:22
maruko`anyone?05:22
miracleblueand in return, never be able to compile any free software you download.  i smell a child of gates...05:22
IIIEarsmiracleblue - spared linspire by a hairs breadth - couldn't escape the initial walkthrough screens. - 'prolly for the best. - going to change the repository settings fairly quickly after clicking and run05:22
gm78miracleblue : they do offer gcc i believe, it is just kind of useless cause u dont get any -devel packages unless u buy their developers edition05:23
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miracleblueIIIEars: yeah, that walkthrough is annoying, luckily i found the close button05:23
gm78if u want something along the lines of linspire, go with xandros05:23
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boowon some of my sources in my sources.list i get md5sum mismatch on some packages whats going on05:24
miraclebluegm78: i tried downloading and burning a seperate GCC compiler so i could compile RP-PPPoE, but that didnt work for some reason05:24
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robert__Hey, DHCP isn't picking up an IP from my modem, any ideas?05:24
gm78miracleblue : did u download a gcc binary or the gcc source code? if it was the source code, u need gcc to compile it :P05:24
geetergodEEEEKKK I HAVE NO SOUND!!!05:24
geetergodand killall esd isnt working!05:25
miraclebluegm78: lol, that would make sense :P05:25
IIIEarsmiracleblue - bet you spent hours reading the same "How to change linspire repos" sites. - soon after, suse 9.3, mandrake (ugh), knoppix, and FreeBSD (worst)05:25
miracleblueIIIEars, nope, just tried finding a GCC compiler that would work when i was on my other windows machine.  spend hours, though05:25
gm78miracleblue : you could also probably use icc, but it probably isnt certified for linspire05:25
robert__miracleblue: Cygwin?05:26
miraclebluegm78 yeah, linspire is basically debian minus everything you need.05:26
IIIEarsuroflmao05:26
boowi've never tried linspire never will now05:27
holycowheh05:27
thickglassesi hate computers, ubuntu did something weird so i can't read my files on my external05:27
miracleblueyeah, i still have my linspire boot CD, i was temped to go back and try again when i couldnt get Ubuntu to play mp3s, after 3 days i did it05:27
holycowboow no try it if you can, just to see05:27
gm78boow : smart move05:27
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IIIEarsLinspire is a bit like Oz - "Don't pay attention the man behind the curtain" - grin05:27
nomasteryodathickglasses, what partition type?05:27
robert__so does anyone have any ideas why Ubuntu might not be picking up an IP lease from my modem?05:27
nomasteryodafat32?05:27
miraclebluelol, yep, agreed05:27
robert__no routers, connected directly to my 3com officeconnect cable modem.05:27
hondjescrew linspire, they CHARGE MONEY for gcc05:27
JohnnyQuestdownload it illegally05:28
robert__hondje: only if you install it thru their click n run system05:28
JohnnyQuestif you want it05:28
miracleblueyeah, they charge money to subscribe to the repository which is pretty limited compared to debians repositories05:28
robert__it's free if you apt-get it05:28
robert__but it still sucks05:28
miraclebluemm, basically ur paying a monthly fee for the web-based front end, huh?05:28
boowjust install gcc from gnu.org05:28
hondjeIt's free lots of ways, but chargin for gcc goes right to the heart of wrongness05:28
miraclebluei prefer ubuntu anyway, it came with gcc and all i need to compile stuff, and a better repository05:29
gm78boow : doesnt work. they only offer source code. u need a compiler (icc might work) first to compile gcc05:29
robert__hondje: why?05:29
robert__they're charging for access to their repos, not gcc05:29
hondjerobert__: Because gcc is the heart of Gnu, and all that it implies05:29
robert__they're charging for access to their repos, not gcc05:29
boowi forgot you need a compiler to compile gcc lol05:29
hondjeThey're charging for their click-install thing, the convenience, but its still wrong to me05:29
gm78hondje : i do disagree with u there, the gpl clearly says u can charge for the software05:29
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robert__yup05:30
robert__and richard stalmann encourages it05:30
hondjeI know what the gpl says, doesn't mean it's not disgusting05:30
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robert__hondje: so is it wrong for people to charge for cdr's of linux os's too?05:30
chatinghi05:30
miraclebluemm, but in their repositories, they have lots of free software, which you have to pay the monthly access fee to get access to05:30
hondjelike it's illegal to watch a dvd in linux in the US...it's illegal, but that doesn't mean it's wrong05:30
EvanCarrollgm78: hrm05:30
hondjeNo, of course not05:30
gm78hondje : thats why u need a value add to charge for it (hint:the system to actually work unlike linspire)05:30
EvanCarrollgm78: i got bored so i reread grep man page it has a -c option05:30
IIIEarsDespair set in after the second XP install in one month and the fifth linux distro. - got a tip in a windows chat about Ubuntu. Ubuntu has taken over 2 of four machines. the others are just for windows games. (too lazy for cedega) lots of FPS games have ports05:30
chatingwhere i have get kernel-patch-bootsplash ??05:31
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EvanCarrollgm78: grep -Rci 'red hat' ./dir will work too05:31
hondjeI don't have a big problem with Novell charging for suse, either05:31
robert__so does anyone have any ideas why my dhcp client isn't picking up any IPs05:31
dukenwhat repository must be add ?05:31
Drako60i want to know why my dns isn't working05:31
robert__hondje: shouldn't, novell and red hat put a lot of money and programmers into open source05:31
JohnnyQuestwhy is it illegal to watch dvds in linux?05:31
EvanCarrollrobert__: run tethereal on one console05:31
miracleblueoh by the way guys, anyone know of a windows emulator for linux so that i can run fruityloops and some games?05:31
EvanCarrollrobert__: then run dhclient on another05:31
hondjeBut Novell isn't going to charge you to install gcc and enjoy Freedom, that's what gets me05:31
dukenwhat repository must be add to get kernel-patch-bootsplash05:31
duken?05:32
robert__JohnnyQuest: DRM05:32
JohnnyQuestrm?05:32
JohnnyQuestdrm*05:32
robert__hondje: again, linspire isn't charging you for GCC05:32
EvanCarrollJohnnyQuest: digital rights managament05:32
flankki have php4 from hoary, i see it was compiled without mysql support. is there any way i can get this without having to compile?05:32
robert__you can still get it free05:32
IIIEarshondje - generally you get what you pay for. - not a bad thing. there is a notable exception though - wide grin05:32
JohnnyQuestbut i can watch it on my windows?05:32
dukenanyone know?05:32
hondjerobert__: I don't expect you to agree :)05:32
gm78JohnnyQuest : Sony just has a stick up their ass (excuse my language)05:33
hondjeNo one agrees with my stance on downloading movies, either :)05:33
robert__hondje: I agree with what you're saying, but it's wrong05:33
JohnnyQuesti agree hondje05:33
hondjeIIIEars: I paid lots for what I get05:33
flankkanyone?05:33
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robert__they're paying for access to their servers and "support" ;p05:33
JohnnyQuesti agree on downloading music05:33
miracleblueill tell you who has a stick up their ass, bill gates.  he has a stick, and a bunch of hundred dollar notes shoved up there05:33
boowyea but you buy the software to decode dvds in windows but there are free codecs05:33
robert__I have 37 RHEL boxes running in our datacenter here in Denver05:33
IIIEarsUbuntu is Free as in Freedom and as in Free Beer05:33
flankkmiracleblue, troll.05:33
hondjerobert__: there's 1 in my office in Pueblo ;-)05:34
JohnnyQuestyou can get anydvd or dvdshrink and it allows you to do anything with a dvd in windows05:34
zerokillshey i need to update my video driver. im at the web site now. which should i get:  Linux IA32, Linux IA64, Linux AMD64/EMT64, FreeBSD, or Solaris x64/x8605:34
hondjeJohnnyQuest: you can, but it's technically illegal in the US05:34
JohnnyQuestya05:34
hondjeBut that doesnt' make it wrong...and it's not against the gpl to charge for gcc, but that doesn't make it right05:34
gm78miracleblue : yes, but it is sony that is forcing people to cease development on dvd decoders05:34
JohnnyQuestso is me downloading movies, music, windows, ms office, and my whole computer05:34
robert__hondje: we're running out of data393 and viawest05:34
robert__:>05:34
boowwell not copyrighted dvds05:34
flankki have php4 from hoary, i see it was compiled without mysql support. is there any way i can get this without having to compile?05:35
miraclebluegm78, damn, what assholes05:35
hondjerobert__: ah, cool05:35
zerokillswhich of the following is Ubuntu considered?:  Linux IA32, Linux IA64, Linux AMD64/EMT6405:35
miraclebluezerokills: what kinda processor do you have?05:36
gm78flankk : not everyone who makes a statement u find wrong or disagree with is a troll. Now if miracleblue came on here and said "Ubuntu sucks, SUSE rules" that would be trolling05:36
zerokillsAMD Athlon 1700+05:36
flankkgm78, now can you answer my question, or are you here to stir up the dust also?05:36
robert__zerokills: then none of the ones you listed05:36
Sepheebearzerokills:  Linux IA3205:36
JohnnyQuestanyone installed mythtv onto unbuntu?05:36
gm78miracleblue : i believe it was sony who went after libdvdcss and they just now forced someone to cease developing another dvd decryption tool05:36
robert__hm, I didn't think Itanium ran 32 bit05:37
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miraclebluegm78: ....what complete assholes05:37
IIIEarsTreating all of your customers like theives is good business.05:37
JohnnyQuestyes it is05:38
IIIEars< now thats trolling - lol05:38
gm78flankk : not sure about that....i am more familiar with rpms, where you could rebuild the source rpm adding options. maybe debs have something like this?05:38
miracleblueIIIEars: amen to that =P05:38
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boowits hard to find libdts nowdays05:38
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robert__hondje: how is Pueblo? I've never been there...05:38
JohnnyQuestanyone installed mythtv onto unbuntu?05:38
IIIEarsis libdta any good?05:38
nickrudflankk I think what you want is php4-mysql, it's in universe05:38
IIIEarsis libdts any good?05:38
miraclebluebrb guys, im gonna cook some food05:38
flankknickrud, ah thanks, i'll change my sources :)05:38
gm78JohnnyQuest : god no....have fun with that. that thing is incredibly hard to install. i gave up05:39
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boowif you've had mplayer playing a dts dvd then you know05:39
flankknickrud, any idea why it is commented that universe will not recieve security updates, when right below are two security update sources for universe?05:40
IIIEarsffmpg - is on it's last gasp also see the project page on sourceforge.05:41
nickrudheh05:41
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gm78IIIEars : why is it on its last breath?05:41
boowso is mplayer05:41
robitailleflankk,  universe will receive the odd security update...but they are rare05:41
IIIEarsit was choked to death.05:41
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gm78IIIEars : lol, i mean what killed it. patents, lack of development, etc.?05:42
nickrudas best I understand it, canonical promises security for main, and provides tools for the motu's to do security for universe05:42
flankkrobitaille, alright. nickrud, thanks, php4-mysql works great. :)05:42
LinuxJonesIIIEars, you should be choked to death :)05:42
hondjerobert__: Not too bad a place to live05:42
hondje100k people, so not too small that you have to drive to another town for things, but small enough you dont' have traffic05:43
theshoecan anyone explain to me how i change refresh rates? in control panel it says: "Your X server does not support  resizing and rotating the display. Please update..."05:43
robert__Hell, to be honest I couldn't even pick Pueblo out of a map on CO05:43
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hondjerobert__: down I-25, other side of the springs05:43
robert__ahh05:43
robert__southern co?05:43
robert__i was thinking eastern, but that's grand junction05:43
hondjeyeah, about 30 miles S. of the springs05:43
geetergodIs there a way to just reset all your sound stuff?05:44
boowwhy become a programmer if theres all these patent restictions05:44
dukenplease help me05:44
robert__hondje: so is it like desert out there?05:44
robert__we got rain bad today here05:44
robert__heh05:44
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zerokillsERROR:  You appear to be running an X server; please exit x before installing. For further details... blah blah blah... Anyone know what i should do?05:44
dukenwhere repository to get bootsplash ?05:44
gm78duken : with what?05:44
hondjerobert__: semi-arrid, not as bad as the planes, but not as wet as springs/denver05:44
LinuxJonesIIIEars, ffmpg rocks baby !!05:44
geetergodIs there a way to just reset all your sound stuff?05:44
robert__denver usually doesn't get as much rain as we've been getting... it's odd05:44
boowzerokills, telinit 305:44
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dukeni'm use hoary05:45
hondjeYeah, and we've had less than usual, go figure ;)05:45
zerokillsboow, whats that?05:45
hondjerobert__: Ironically, I'll be up in denver tomorrow05:45
robert__which town?05:45
LinuxJones:)05:45
hondjeDenver-denver05:45
robert__heh, k05:45
boowswitch to runlevel 3 exit the xserver05:45
robert__lodo?05:45
hondjeSome oil company is paying for me to play in eliches all day05:45
robert__i'm in Arvada05:45
dukenwhere i get kernel-patch-bootsplash, bootsplash05:45
geetergodIs there a way to just reset all your sound stuff?05:45
robert__lol05:46
robert__i haven't been to six flags forever05:46
thoreauputicboow: runlevel 3 doesn't exist by defult in debian distros05:46
hondjeI wouldn't either, $60 a person is retarded05:46
thoreauputicso that won't work05:46
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gm78geetergod : what do u mean reset ur sound stuff?05:46
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geetergodgm78, i was trying to get my surround speakers to work now i have no sound :(05:47
thoreauputiczerokills: to exit X , run sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop05:47
yonilAm i the only one with this: gmail.com sends me "certificates" every 2 minutes. i dont even know what it means, and im not surfing to gmail.com ! whats going on ??05:47
geetergodgm78, i think i did something in Multi Track Internal Clock05:47
gm78geetergod : sorry, im not sure about that05:48
CarlFKgeetergod - i think your best bet is to try to get them working05:48
geetergodgm78, my esd doesnt seem to be working05:48
geetergodCarlFK, how?05:48
geetergodthis has got me bummed right out05:49
theshoecan anyone explain to me how i change refresh rates? in control panel it says: "Your X server does not support  resizing and rotating the display. Please update..."05:49
CarlFKgeetergod - what does lspci show for your sound card?05:49
robert__hondje: yeah, my cousins have summer passes05:49
gm78geetergod : try switching to alsa....i have had nothing but problems with esd...there should be an option for that somewhere in the settings menu under sound05:49
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robert__I got in using one of theirs once since we all look alike05:49
hondjeThey msut enjoy it ;)05:49
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zerokillsthoreauputic thanks05:50
geetergodCarlFK, just put a Chaintech 7.1 in it today05:50
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geetergodgm78, i think im on alsa but how do i switch over?05:50
CarlFKgeetergod - what does ->lspci<- show for your sound card?05:50
chombeeAny XFCE users here? I want to know how to get tomboy working. I installed it, but how do I start it in xfce?05:51
geetergod0000:00:07.0 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies Inc. VT1720/24 [Envy2 4PT/HT]  PCI Multi-Channel Audio Controller (rev 01)05:51
geetergod?05:51
JohnnyQuesthow do i install a program in ubuntu?05:51
geetergodCarlFK, that?05:51
CarlFKyeah, that ;)05:51
chombeeJohnnyQuest - use Synaptic Package Manager in the System menu05:51
JohnnyQuestok05:51
JohnnyQuestthank you05:51
geetergodCarlFK, is that ok?05:52
IIIEars"System" >> "Administration" .. "Synaptic  Package Manager"05:52
CarlFKgeetergod - yes, looking it up on http://www.alsa-project.org05:53
geetergodk kool05:53
geetergodCarlFK, when i type lsof /dev/snd/* in the command line i get...05:55
geetergodCOMMAND    PID      USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME05:55
geetergodaplay     7304      root  mem    CHR 116,16      8351 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p05:55
geetergodmixer_app 7468 geetergod   36u   CHR  116,0      7633 /dev/snd/controlC005:55
geetergodgnome-vol 8386 geetergod   16u   CHR  116,0      7633 /dev/snd/controlC05:55
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CarlFKgeetergod - don't paste more than one line05:55
geetergodsorry, didnt think it'd be that big05:55
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miraclebluenerf05:57
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JohnnyQuesti cant figure out synaptic package manager05:58
JohnnyQuesti got into the program05:58
geetergodthanks for helping CarlFK05:58
JohnnyQuestbut, i cant figure out how to install the program i want05:58
CarlFKgeetergod - may want to see http://www.d.kth.se/~vuorio/sound.en.php05:59
JohnnyQuestit is uncompressed but, i dont know how to install it05:59
CrustyPunkHey, this has nothing to do with Ubuntu at all; but does anyone here happen to have Vavoom successfully installed?05:59
geetergodk05:59
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geetergodCarlFK, the sound was working an hour ago though06:00
skelwhats the best way to get ubuntu to redetect my video hardware again? X -configure doesn't seem to be as accurate as whatever originally ran on install?06:00
CarlFKgeetergod - but something was wrong, else you wouldn't have messed with it ;)06:00
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Kirschhey guys, how do u reset your Xorg.conf by executing the apt-get06:01
CrustyPunkskel: did you try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?06:01
geetergodCarlFK, surround sound i couldnt get to work06:01
Kirschah, thx CrustyPunk06:01
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CrustyPunkHah. Awesome.06:01
CrustyPunkHelped someone without even trying06:01
CrustyPunkI rock06:01
CrustyPunk<306:01
skelCrustyPunk: yes, and everything seems well though its jittery and it got the wrong sync ranges06:01
CrustyPunkOh. Well, then I'm at a loss. I'm a bit of a noob.06:02
skelCrustyPunk: ok well thanks for the tip anyway =] 06:02
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CrustyPunkCan't you manually set the sync ranges with xserver-xorg?06:02
peloverdeIs anyone else having md5 mismatches?06:02
skelCrustyPunk: I already manually set them in the xorg.conf, yes though still jittery.. not sure why06:02
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CrustyPunkMm06:03
CrustyPunkWell06:03
CrustyPunkI'm at a loss again06:03
CrustyPunkSorry06:03
black13how i install syslog-ng06:03
black13apt-get install syslog-ng?06:03
CrustyPunkblack13: apt-cache search syslog06:03
pepsihey this is fun :D firefox is broken in breezy now06:03
nemikbesides retrobox.com, does anyone know where i can get really old cheap boxes? preferably in the chicago area...sorry this is so off topic06:03
CrustyPunkblack13: That's to search for the package name06:04
foxinesshi,how use qemu ? did you tried last ver .07 , is this ver come with kqume bulit-in or what ?06:04
CrustyPunkblack13: And then the command would be apt-get install <package>06:04
foxinesshow - who06:04
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black13apt-cache search syslog-ng returns nada06:04
nemikblack13: make sure you do sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and change to universe in case the basic default ones don't have your package06:05
black13sure06:05
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razAnyone ever fixed the "CPU frequency scaling unsupported" that one gets when trying to run the built-in CPU Freq. Monitor? (Pentium-M laptop)..06:06
CrustyPunkblack13: apt-get install syslog-ng should work if you have the correct repositories.06:06
CrustyPunkblack13: Do what nemik said.06:06
CrustyPunk(After updating, of course_06:06
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black13i have this line: "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe06:06
nemikwith no # in front of it?06:07
CrustyPunkIs it commented out?06:07
black13no it is not06:07
nemikok then do apt-get update06:07
nemikno wait!06:07
black13no wait it is06:07
black13dang06:07
CrustyPunkTake out the #06:07
black13yep06:07
nemikus.archive is down like topic says; found that out the hard way today! :D06:08
CrustyPunkthen do "sudo apt-get update"06:08
CrustyPunkAnd when that's done06:08
nemikchange to just archive.ubuntu...06:08
nemikyea then do sudo apt-get update06:08
CrustyPunkapt-get install syslog-ng06:08
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nemikhehe sorry i'm interrupting you crusty06:08
CrustyPunkHas anyone here perchance successfully compiled Vavoom?06:08
CrustyPunkIt's okay =P06:09
black13now running apt get update06:09
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nemikthis is so cool! i love linux! just last weekend, i didn't even know what apt-get was! let alone sudo06:09
CrustyPunkhaha06:09
CrustyPunkapt-get is my hero.06:09
nemiki'm dead serious06:09
nemikyea, i agree06:09
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CrustyPunkI'm a bit of a newbie too06:09
CrustyPunkThis is the sixth time (at least) I've installed Ubuntu06:10
CrustyPunkI keep managing to break it06:10
CrustyPunkBut I think I have the hang of it no.06:10
CrustyPunkw.06:10
Lafitte-CrustyPunk,  breaking it how ?    grin06:10
nemikmine is ok most of the time, but because of stability for what i use it for, i only use the "server" version now06:10
CrustyPunkLafitte-: Nubbish stupidity.06:11
nemikforced me to become quite adept at terminal and shell scripting! :D06:11
Lafitte-CrustyPunk,   eheh06:11
CrustyPunkBleeeeeeeeeeer.06:11
CrustyPunkI want to play Vavoom D=06:11
Lafitte-nemik,  nice ::)06:11
nemikwhat is vavoom?06:11
black13Vavoom>06:11
black13Vavoom?06:11
CrustyPunkBut I dont' want to have to boot to Windows to install the Windows version06:11
CrustyPunkIt's a port of the following games for Linux06:12
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CrustyPunk*finds a list*06:12
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CrustyPunkDoom, Doom II, Strife, heretic, Hexen06:12
nemikhehe cool!06:12
miraclebluebrb06:12
Lafitte-id games06:12
Lafitte-i used to love heretic06:13
nemikand it probably runs them better on much crappier systems that what they were intended for06:13
CrustyPunkDoom Shareware, Doom II: TNT Evilution, Doom II: PLutinia Experiment, Heretic shareware, Ultimate Doom06:13
Lafitte-and hexen06:13
CrustyPunkbasically all the old school ID games06:13
CrustyPunkBUT IT GETS BETTER!06:13
black13old school is right06:13
CrustyPunkThere are optional high-res textures06:13
CrustyPunkAND06:13
CrustyPunk3D models06:13
Lafitte-sweet06:13
nemikspeaking of crappy systems...where do you guys get yours? i'm looking for some 300 - 900 mhz systems...06:13
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CrustyPunkHaha.06:14
CrustyPunknemik: I'm running a PII 930 mhz06:14
CrustyPunkI'm hardcore06:14
nemikretrobox is super, but shipping at $27.50/box is $$$06:14
boowi like doomsday06:14
nemikPII? you mean PIII?06:14
CrustyPunkErr06:14
CrustyPunkYeah06:14
Lafitte-nemik,  in cali here there is a store who buys out business machines when they are old and restores them up and sells06:14
truz24I wish flashfxp would get ported to linux06:14
CrustyPunkI sure do06:14
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black13black13, met john carmack06:14
CrustyPunknemik: try newegg.com06:14
CarlFKnemik - I get P2-333 64meg boxes for about $15 in Chicago06:14
Lafitte-truz24,  true daT06:15
nemiki'm in chicago!06:15
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zachim running on a P2 23306:15
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CrustyPunkBut anyway, I can't get Vavoom to compile... no one has it installed? D=06:15
nemikcarlFK, where can i get such boxes?06:15
CarlFKnemik - chi.forsale06:15
CrustyPunkAH!06:15
CrustyPunkIf anyone's interested06:15
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CarlFKnemik - news group06:16
CrustyPunkI just found a full list of the ported games as well as the changes06:16
CrustyPunkhttp://www.vavoom-engine.com/index.php?Lang=Eng06:16
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nemikdamnit! just when i canceled my newsgroup account last month...06:16
nemikany way to see its articles free?06:16
CarlFKnemik - I hear http://www.craigslist.org too06:16
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CarlFKnemik - yeah06:17
CarlFKer06:17
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nemikyea i checked craigslist chi, but overprices (more than ebay) and the good ones don't reply06:17
boowCrustyPunk, give doomsday a try if you want to play doom they have a linux version06:17
IIIEarsAny Unreal Tournament afficianados here? - grin06:17
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robert__nemik: I think people just get sick of replying to the bs'ers on craigslist. when I listed my car I had about 20 offers. maybe 2 were serious.06:18
CarlFKnemik - you want watch for Ken in evenston06:18
robert__I ended up selling it to the gf because they were way below what I wanted for it ;)06:18
scottcan anyone tell me how to change the refresh rate of my monitor? just installed kubuntu and the fglrx drivers and now i cant change refresh rate06:18
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IIIEarsboow - tried Doom 3 in linux?06:18
nemikken in evanston..this is all good06:19
yccheoki want to eject my cd rom but no responde, wat i should do?06:19
robert__yccheok: 'eject cdrom' in shell06:19
robert__that doesn't work?06:19
boowdoom3 anit running on this six year pc06:19
nemiknow gotta find a way to access chi.forsale....06:19
yccheokrobert__:eject: unable to open `/dev/hdd'06:19
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yccheoki tried, just wont work06:19
boowtried the leak doom3 5 fp206:20
robert__um06:20
robert__yccheok: in shell, type 'eject cdrom'06:20
boowtried the leak doom3 5 fps06:20
black13leak doom306:20
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wondering_jewhello?06:20
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boowthe leaked version06:21
black13leaked source06:21
black13or binary06:21
IIIEarsboow - It's very scarey. - though the save game file gets massive fast.06:21
IIIEarsno audio clues for hidden doors like the original.06:21
boowmabye when i get me a amd 6406:22
nemikcarlFK, thank you so much! found ken, hopefully he's got some left and i can pick some up this weekend06:22
ubuntuHi.. I'm runnng ubuntu from live eval now.. but my mouse dont work.. how can I configure my mouse?06:22
ubuntudevice database dont detect too06:22
IIIEarsHello ubuntu welcome!06:22
boowis it a usb mouse06:23
ubuntunopz06:23
ubuntups206:23
boowweird06:23
IIIEarstry - sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg after CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE06:23
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boowsudo ln -s /dev/psaux /dev/mouse06:24
IIIEarssymlink? - hm06:24
scottIIIears: didnt work06:24
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ekCo_hey i got a huge problem06:25
ekCo_i went to install my linux drivers..06:25
ekCo_and it killed gdm06:25
ekCo_and all traces of it06:25
ekCo_im stuck in the terminal..06:25
hondjeyour linux drivers?06:25
ekCo_nvidia drivers soz06:25
boowtry sudo modprobe psmouse too06:25
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hondjeekCo_: /etc/init.d/gdm restart doesn't bring it back up?06:26
bob2ekCo_: following the howto on the wiki, you mean?06:26
ekCo_yeah06:26
ekCo_ok06:26
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ekCo_theres the new drivers06:26
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stevedogi can't install Hoary on my iMac G506:26
ekCo_and i went to install via, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx etc06:26
stevedogits saying "cannot find common CD-rom"06:26
OpzzzzHow cai I install my sux ps2 mouse on Ubuntu?06:26
ekCo_when i did this, it started removing gdm and gnoem stuff, i thought hey this isn't right06:26
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ekCo_then all of sudden06:26
muttDChas anyone installed the drivers for an ati radeon 9600xt ??06:26
ekCo_i crashed and im stuck in terminal06:27
ekCo_when i try and run gdm06:27
BockBilbohey there06:27
ekCo_it says nothing is found06:27
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BockBilbois it possible to allow non authentification access to samba shares so no user neither pass has to be introduced?06:27
ekCo_now it says, gdm command not found..06:27
OpzzzzHow cai I install my sux ps2 mouse on Ubuntu?06:27
ekCo_what can i do?06:27
boowOpzzzz, sudo modprobe psmouse06:27
bob2ekCo_: "new drivers"?06:27
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bob2ekCo_: the packages mentioned on the wiki do not remove gdm06:28
bob2what EXACTLY did you do?06:28
IIIEarsekco - "sudo command"?06:28
ekCo_sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx06:28
gp_aaronI need to change where my ipod auto mounts, it currently auto-mounts to /media and I want it to mount to /mnt, how do I do this?06:28
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ekCo_and all of sudden, bang everything crashed06:28
gp_aaronfstab has no entry for my ipod06:28
Daveyanyone know what package aclocal is int?06:28
ekCo_im in the terminal now, using bitchx06:28
bob2Davey: http://packages.ubuntu.com/06:28
bob2gp_aaron: "need"? why?06:28
bob2gp_aaron: it has nothing to do with fstba, gnome-volume-manager does it06:28
Opzzzzsudo modprobe psmouse didn't work06:29
ekCo_ok, nvidia drivers seem to be installed.. but their is no traces of gdm06:29
gp_aaronbob2,06:29
ekCo_i'll get dmesg for you bob2.06:29
gp_aaroni got it, thanks though06:29
hondjethen install it again, apt-get install gdm06:29
bob2ekCo_: why did you let apt remove gdm, anyway?06:29
bob2ekCo_: and where did you get these packages from?06:30
ekCo_i didnt notice06:30
kaliasHi!  Are there any gtk-gnutella users out there?06:30
boowsudo ln -s /dev/psaux /dev/mouse06:30
gp_aaronekCo_, irssi is so much better then bitchx imo06:30
ekCo_not one of my problems right now06:30
gp_aaronkalias, i use gtk-gnutella sometimes06:30
ekCo_ok bob2..06:30
ekCo_i went to play cs.. using cedega06:30
ekCo_it crashed06:30
ekCo_segmentation fault06:30
ekCo_i then checked glxgears06:30
ekCo_segmentation fault06:30
ekCo_then i found i had no nvidia drivers..06:30
raz<-- noob: why can't I:  mv /Desktop/acpi* /usr/src06:31
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ekCo_so i installed them ysing, 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx'06:31
bob2raz: because /Destkop doesn't exist06:31
kaliasgp_arron: Hi :) Pleased to meet you :)  The program works for me but in the upper right hand corner there is a small box that says I am firewalled.06:31
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bob2raz: what are you trying to do?06:31
ekCo_bob2, it then install the drivers06:31
Opzzzzboow? and after? Did it work quickly?06:31
ApesMaLooking to install the latest nvidia driver, but when I try to follow advice in Ubuntu forum (uninstall the nvidia-related packages), synaptic tells me that removing nvidia-kernel-common would require removing packages that seem rather essential (linux-386 among others).  Has nvidia 1.0-7664 been made a package that apt-get can install yet?06:31
kaliasgp_arron: Is this important?06:31
ekCo_and for some gay reason all of gdm then crashed06:31
wondering_jew"error while loading shared libraries: libiconv.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"?06:31
bob2ekCo_: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct06:31
razbob2, moving a file whose name starts with acpi and is sitting in my desktop to /user/src06:31
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ekCo_i cant view it bob206:32
Opzzzzboow? and after? Did it work quickly?06:32
ekCo_i got no web browser /desktop lol06:32
bob2ekCo_: also, before this, you were running a normal system, with no silly binary drivers?06:32
wondering_jewchat the file is there when i searched06:32
bob2raz: that directory is ~/Desktop06:32
ekCo_yes bob206:32
wondering_jewooops mud habit06:32
ekCo_everything was perfect06:32
Daveybob2: I can't seem to find it, but its a rather fundamental build tool from what I can tell :)06:32
boowOpzzzz, is it working06:32
BaerdI have delete de sudoers how can recover new user for sudo?06:32
ekCo_just how i liked it06:32
kaliasgp_arron: It says I appear to be firewalled both tcp and udp wise.06:32
Opzzzzno!06:32
bob2ekCo_: but why are you doing that?06:32
ekCo_installing nvidia?06:32
ekCo_no drivers were found..06:32
boowcheck your xorg.conf06:32
ekCo_in xorg it has my video card details06:33
Opzzzzwhere is it?06:33
ekCo_but i have nothing on gdm06:33
bob2Davey: anyway, it's in automake-X06:33
bob2ekCo_: so, install the "ubuntu-desktop" package06:33
ekCo_how?06:33
kaliasnickrud: Hey nickrud :)  How is life?06:34
ekCo_sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?06:34
bob2ekCo_: indeed06:34
razAnyone that ever installed ACPI4Linux, a hand would be appreciated! :D06:34
bob2raz: what is it?06:34
bob2raz: ubuntu already has excellent acpi support06:34
ekCo_will i have my old skins etc?06:34
ekCo_and settings?06:34
bob2ekCo_: I don't know what a "skin" is06:34
ekCo_well theme06:35
bob2but it won't touch any of your settings06:35
stevedogi can't install Ubuntu on my G5 iMac, its saying "cannot find a common cdrom"06:35
boow/etc/X11/xorg.conf look for /dev/psaux06:35
Opzzzzok06:35
razbob2, well, really? hmm.. my CPU Frequency Monitor tells me "CPU frequency scaling unsupported", any ideas?06:35
ekCo_ok bob2, it seems to be working06:35
BaerdI have delete the first user whit privilege for use sudo how can back root ?06:35
ekCo_lemme look more into this, and i will get back :)06:35
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bob2Baerd: don't do silly things like that in future06:35
bob2Baerd: reboot and hit esc over and over until you get the grub menu06:36
bob2Baerd: then select the "recovery" option06:36
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Baerdtxn bob206:36
Baerdtry06:36
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bob2Baerd: then do "adduser username admin", to add username to the admin group, which gives them sudo rights06:36
zerokillsanyone know how to disable sound servers or other applications that may be using sound?06:36
bob2raz: perhaps your hardware is not yet supported06:36
bob2raz: I'd be very surprised if recompiling helped, tho06:36
flodinea guy just got a video card that supports 1900x1200 why wont ubuntu displaythis06:36
bob2raz: did this used to work?06:36
razbob2, under xp, yes.06:37
bob2flodine: perhaps it's buggy, or your monitor is06:37
bob2flodine: what sort of video card?06:37
bob2zerokills: fuser -v /ds06:37
razbob2, the cpu freq. monitor? no.06:37
flodinemy monitor is brand new 24 inch dell06:37
bob2zerokills: er, fuser -v /dev/snd/*06:37
bob2flodine: are you using a KVM?06:37
zerokillsbob2: k thanks06:37
wondering_jewim trying to istall e17 using the script in the ubuntu forums, when it trys to build the deb for emotion i get this error "error while loading shared libraries: libiconv.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"06:37
bob2zerokills: then kill the pids06:37
flodinenvidia06:37
bob2wondering_jew: the script is broken, talk to whoever wrote it06:37
wondering_jewi found the file with locate...06:37
ekCo_thanks bob2!!!06:38
flodinewhats kvm06:38
bob2hah06:38
wondering_jewk thanks06:38
flodinebob2 whats KVM06:38
zerokillsbob2: whats the asterisk stand for?06:38
bob2zerokills: "all files in that directory"06:39
ekCo_out of curiosity anyone running nvidia 7664 drivers?06:39
hondjeekCo_: I am, why?06:39
ekCo_how did you get them running?06:39
ekCo_i cant seem to when i tried about 2 weeks ago06:39
zerokillsbob2: i typed it in like you said and nothing came up06:39
bob2zerokills: then nothing is using it06:39
misfit-toyflodine, kvm - keyboard, video, mouse06:39
bob2ekCo_: it's really way way better to stay with the ubuntu drivers06:40
zerokillsbob2: sweet, thanks again06:40
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ekCo_im a diplomatic gamer, i must have speed :D06:40
hondjeekCo_: it's not worth the hastle, unless you have a lot of free time and someone handy who has patience06:40
hondjeI haven't noticed a speedup with them06:40
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ekCo_ok06:41
ekCo_thanks all06:41
razAnyone got the 'CPU Frequency Monitor' to work with Toshiba Laptops?06:41
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randabishi06:41
bob2raz: it works for lots of people06:41
razbob2, why not me!06:41
bob2I don't know06:42
CarlFKraz - it is working on my 610006:42
bob2try filing a bug on the linux package in bugzilla06:42
hondjehey look, /etc/modprobe.d/toshiba_acpi.modprobe thing06:42
razbob2, well, maybe its on my end..06:42
razhmm06:42
hondjethat's pretty neat06:43
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razhondje, got that file.. what's neat about it (noobie here)06:43
hondjeraz: That fact that someone cared enough to create it06:43
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razhondje, ahem.. and is there a way to... say, enabled it?06:44
hondjeI'd imagine it'd be done06:44
hondjefor you06:44
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razhondje, 'tomaticly?06:44
hondjeraz: That'd be my guess, but I know nothing about laptops06:44
hondjeI installed RH on a hp a couple years back, worked fine, and suse on a thinkpad a month ago, worked fine06:45
razhum.06:45
razis it possible to 'reinstall' the, say, 'acpu module' of ubuntu?06:45
razacpi*06:45
hondjeI don't know06:45
hondjeI don't grok acpi/apm06:45
hondjeI'm not sure what they are, let alone how to mess wtih them :)06:46
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boowacpi whats the problem06:46
stevedogi can't install Ubuntu on my G5 iMac, its saying "cannot find a common cdrom"06:46
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bob2stevedog: did you try a network install?06:47
stevedogno,  i don't have the bandwidth06:47
stevedogand it makes no sense because i can boot from the CD06:47
bob2no06:47
bob2I mean, pxeboot06:47
stevedoguh no06:47
bob2well, it does make sense if you can't install from the cd :)06:47
boowraz, whats your acpi problem06:47
razboow, well, i guess #1 is that Ubuntu's CPU Freq. Scalling Monitor won't work w/ my system?06:48
zerokillsguys my screen is zoomed in really close. i checked the screen resolution and its what its supposed to be =\06:48
bob2zerokills: no, it's not06:49
boowI've never messed with that sorry i cant help06:49
bob2if you have to scroll around, then your res is not what you think it is06:49
bob2raz: it's a kernel thing, not a monitor problem06:49
bob2raz: please file a bug on the "linux" package in bugzilla06:49
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concept10Raz: yeah its a kernel problem, not ubuntu06:50
hondjezerokills: ctrl-alt-+ (the + on the numpad) help?06:50
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razbob2, oki.06:50
zerokillshondje bob2: i just went back into screen res. and set it for a different size, then set it back, that fixed it06:50
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hondjenothing like a random fix06:51
bob2er06:51
boowim gonna fire up ie6 in linux and listen to lauch.com06:51
flodineok guys dont understan ubuntu cant do 1900x 120006:51
flodinei guess it not ready06:51
hondjeflodine: why not?06:51
bob2flodine: of course it can06:51
bob2flodine: don't be a stupid troll06:52
geneo93any idea why i'm getting a md5sum mismatch for libggi2_2.0.5-1ubuntu1_i386.deb06:52
flodineim trying06:52
flankkbob2, you're a real prick.06:52
bob2perhaps it can't autodetect your particular  card06:52
flodinejust gor a new nvidia that supports 1900x120006:52
bob2flankk: charming06:52
flodineis there something im missing06:52
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hondjeokay, but is xorg configured to support it?06:52
bob2x.org supports it fine06:53
hondjeright vert/horiz, nvidia drivers, etc?06:53
bob2nvidia cards have problems with autoconfiguration under some circumstances06:53
flodinewhats the command to configure it06:53
flodinefoe xorg06:53
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bob2that's unlikely to be the problem06:53
bob2but 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'06:54
flodinebob2 then what should i do06:54
bob2then you need to configure it manually06:54
flodinei got a 24 inch and a new card06:54
bob2which is crap, but it's a known issue06:54
bob2and will be fixed06:54
bob2and there's no point saying silly things like " i guess it not ready"06:54
flodinewow06:56
caonexis the server backup?06:57
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caonexus ubuntu server?06:57
flodineif its ready why dont it see my card size06:58
hondjelooks like it06:58
flodineBOB06:58
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caonexhondje, you talking to me?06:58
hondjecaonex: yes, sorry06:58
caonexhondje, ok i see, thanks06:58
flodinecan someone help is there anyone running 1900x120006:59
DaveyAmaranth: Smeg (latest) does not work for me :/06:59
bob2flodine: stop being so obnoxious06:59
bob2flodine: I'm sorry it doesn't autoconfigure on your particular setup06:59
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bob2go for it07:00
hondjeExplaining it takes 2 hrs07:00
hondje'kernel headers' and refresh rates, yeesh07:00
nootropeflodine: i'm running 1900x1200 on a 4 year-old no-name laptop07:02
hondjeI also lack your patience, now that I think about it07:02
flodineand did auto cofig for you07:02
nootropeyes07:02
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flodinesomeone point me to a link thats all i want is a how to07:03
bob2hold on07:03
tsumebreezy rocks and works well! :)07:03
hondjeflodine: ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-7664/README.txt07:03
bob2I'm trying to find the answer for you07:03
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ukatois there a command to run scripts?07:04
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bob2what do you mean by "scripts?07:04
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ukatoi'm probably using the wrong term, because i suck, but07:05
ukatolike a program07:05
bob2flodine: run ''XORG_SYNC_RANGES=yes sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg07:05
ukatobinary?07:05
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CarlFKukato - that is like asking "is there a command to run commands"07:05
bob2ukato: you just type the name of the program07:05
bob2ukato: if it's in your $PATH07:05
geneo93sh maybe what you want07:05
randabisukato: .sh scripts can be run with sh foo.sh; executables can be ran with ./07:05
ukatookay07:05
ukatothat's what i meant, thanks07:05
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CarlFKrandabis - why not just ./foo.sh ?07:06
randabisCarlFK: the script might not be executable07:06
caonexhello how can i solve this error?:07:06
randabisyou'd have to +x it first07:06
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caonexReading package lists...07:06
caonexBuilding dependency tree...07:06
caonex0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.07:06
caonex1 not fully installed or removed.07:06
caonexNeed to get 0B of archives.07:06
caonexAfter unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.07:07
randabisbah07:07
syndcaonex: dont flood07:07
caonexsorry07:07
syndcaonex: use #flood or pastebin.com07:07
caonexit was not suppose to do that07:07
caonexwhen i use /exec -o with xchat07:07
syndall good07:07
CarlFKrandabis - got it - thanks07:07
caonexit puts it slowly07:07
caonexsynd, nope that is not all07:07
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caonexsynd, #flood then?07:07
syndcaonex: its easier to do pastebin.com07:08
tsumerandabis: I'm a BSDer, breezy is rockin ;)07:08
caonexok07:08
caonexpastebin it is07:08
randabistsume: in what way?07:08
tsumerandabis: Us BSDers know how to fix any problems we run into ;)07:08
tsumerandabis: updated software ;)07:08
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tsumerandabis: which means.. less running in to bugs with updated software07:08
caonexhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.com/29876607:08
tsumexmms or mplayer doesn't work, but oh well07:09
JohnnyQuesti need some help installing LAME07:09
tsumeI'm a mpg123 guy :)07:09
randabisusing BSD does not necessarily mean one automatically can fix any problem07:09
tsumerandabis: you haven't used BSD any then :)_07:09
tsumerandabis: We BSDers run in to software problems, so we must fix it outselves07:09
randabisActually I have run both netBSD and freeBSD off and on07:09
caonexsynd, i posted it07:09
tsumerandabis: BSDers are more capable of figuring out problems than other people just because of experience.07:10
syndcaonex: then you post the URL here07:10
caonexit is above07:10
caonexsynd i just did07:10
caonex;)07:10
caonexhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.com/29876607:10
syndand ask as such: "ive got a problem with such and such and here is the pastebin"07:10
JohnnyQuestim gettting the error permission denied when trying to install LAME07:10
randabiscapability and experience != solve any problem.07:10
tsumerandabis: yes it does07:10
caonexsynd, oh ok sorry i just thought you knew already, next time.07:10
randabisI does increase the likelyhood of solving a problem however07:10
randabisit07:10
bob2JohnnyQuest: you need to give us the whole error, in the #flood channel07:10
JohnnyQuestok07:11
bob2JohnnyQuest: also, there's no need to compile it07:11
tsumerandabis: heck, everyone was piss and moaning about breezy's X being broken when it was just a simple mkfontdir command ;)07:11
tsumerandabis: experienced BSDers can fix any unix related problem ;)07:11
syndis breezy ok to use, honestly?07:11
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Kamping_Kaisersynd. if you like problems, yes07:11
syndim a bit discouraged to use it.07:11
tsumesynd: only if you know how to fix bugs/problems07:11
syndKamping_Kaiser: no sir07:12
pepsi_firefox is broken for me in breezy07:12
tsumeOf course, my installation works fine.07:12
tsumepepsi: mine works ;)07:12
pepsi_it wnats to install firefox and remove mozilla-firefox07:12
syndit peeves me when people install breezy and come here for problems fixes07:12
CarlFKis there an rsync for breezy?07:12
pepsi_but it pukes when trying to remove mozilla-firefox07:12
syndproblem*07:12
kemirihi07:13
JohnnyQuestany ideas on that probelm?07:13
JohnnyQuestim a linux noob..07:13
randabistsume: heh, fun. I'm just not inclined to play with Breezy at this point. I don't doubt your experience or skill. I'm just saying there is a possibility that you or someone COULD run into a problem that isn't easily solved or unsolvable07:13
tsumebreezy is great for the knowlegable people07:13
syndgod VNC is great07:13
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tsumerandabis: all problems are solvable ;)07:14
randabisIt may be very unlikely for that scenario to play itself out, but I'm just saying it is a possible scenario07:14
JohnnyQuestanyone read my error in the flood channel?07:14
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randabistsume: to an extent, but that does not mean one will be able to always find the solution07:15
tsumerandabis: Never have run in that problem yet.07:15
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zerokillsis Ubuntu 64-bit?07:16
randabistsume: and you may never run into that situation. I'm just saying it is possible07:16
tsumezerokills: the question is... is there a 64-bit build of Linux which Ubuntu is distributing?07:16
hondjeBSDers are excellent at fixing bugs07:17
hondjeAfter all, they've kept a dying OS alive for years07:17
darius___so much BSD smack talk07:17
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darius___hahah07:17
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zerokillstsume- all i know is i need a 32-bit distro to get this game to work07:17
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JohnnyQuestall i want is to learn how to intsall simple things....07:18
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hondjeJohnnyQuest: have you tried using synaptic?07:18
zerokillsjohnnyquest: what are you trying to install?07:18
tsumeJohnnyQuest: you must learn about aptitude. apt-get, apt-cache, etc.07:18
JohnnyQuestya07:18
caonexsynd, any ideas?07:19
JohnnyQuestim trying to install LAME07:19
JohnnyQuesti compiled it07:19
JohnnyQuesti did make07:19
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JohnnyQuestand then make install didnt work07:19
zerokillssudo apt-get install lame07:19
tsumehondje: actually, NetBSD is great. The reason NASA used NetBSD instead of linux is for the stability and security.07:19
caonexDo you want to continue [Y/n] ?07:19
hondjetsume: You know better than to feed the troll! :)07:19
tsumehondje: there are a few dumb terms running linux in the international space station(ISS), but thats the extent of linux07:19
tsumehondje: yes it do, but I like backing up my statements with facts.07:20
hussamdoes the firefox in backports-staging have the latest security fix regarding the frames?07:20
tsumethe ISS runs NetBSD :)07:20
randabisNetBSD will also run on just about any old computer out there07:20
hondjeYou want facts? How about netcraft confirming it? :)07:20
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tsumerandabis: any computer, new and old.07:20
tsumerandabis: I can see you are not experienced and (forgive me for saying) speaking out of your ass.07:21
JohnnyQuestunable to lock the administration directory07:21
randabistsume: yes, but in the context of nasa, their hardware tends to be archaic07:21
JohnnyQuesti got that erorr from that comand zero07:21
tsumeJohnnyQuest: oh, you are completely new to linux?07:21
JohnnyQuestya07:21
randabisI wasn't dogging netbsd with that comment07:21
tsumerandabis: no, NASAs ISS technology is top of the line.07:21
tsumerandabis: go visit the center where they build the pieces and see for yourself.07:21
randabiswell the ISS stuff probably is07:22
randabisI was more referring to the older stuff at the space centers, but I digress07:22
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randabisI wasn't meaning to insult bsd in any way07:22
tsumerandabis: you completely missed what I said then. the ISS runs NetBSD, and a couple dumb linux terms for client controllers07:22
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darius___who cares - NASA uses of a lot of OS's for a lot of things07:23
darius___as do many companies07:23
darius___and mission critical applications07:23
tsumeJohnnyQuest: you must use superuser access. use sudo07:23
darius___I've never seen a bigger BSD troll07:23
JohnnyQuesthow do i do that?07:23
tsumedarius___: on the ground centers yes. The ISS runs NetBSD07:23
darius___and I'm a BSD fan07:23
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tsumeJohnnyQuest: sudo apt-get...07:25
tsume;)07:25
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JohnnyQuestdidnt work07:25
caonexwhat is the line in sources.list to be able to install the java runtime ?07:26
Lafitte-tsume,  need to set root password first?07:26
JohnnyQuestbut sudo make install did work07:26
tsumeLafitte-: what? no07:26
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tsumeLafitte-: root is disabled07:26
bob2JohnnyQuest: so, why are you compiling lame at all?07:26
pobstilhey, with sftp, how do you put a folder, and all it's contents, including other folders07:26
JohnnyQuestim installing mythtv07:26
JohnnyQuestthats teh only reason im using linux07:26
tsumeJohnnyQuest: oh hell..07:26
bob2JohnnyQuest: there's no need to compile it07:26
tsumeoh fuxk..07:26
tsumeJohnnyQuest: thanks07:26
Lafitte-tsume,  oh   i set password for mine  and su....i didnt know that hehe07:26
bob2JohnnyQuest: just install the lame package07:27
tsumeI fucking forgot about a date I had with a mythtv setup07:27
tsumedamn :)07:27
bob2pobstil: probably easier to just use rsync07:27
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JohnnyQuestwell i got it compiled and installed now i think..07:27
JohnnyQuesti dont know how to check07:27
FR500hello07:27
JohnnyQuestbut i did make install and go no errors07:27
pobstilI'm not asking how to do it another way, I'm asking how to do it this way...07:27
bob2pobstil: why?07:28
Lafitte-what is mythtv ?07:28
pobstilI know you can do put /home/pobstil/*  but that wont do the folders07:28
JohnnyQuestits a program to use for a hometheatre system07:28
FR500not ubuntu related, but i gotta tell this to someone, i just drove a new M5, and after killing an F360 Spider i gotta say that thing rocks!!!!07:28
FR500you cant imagine my grin now07:28
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psychonate|awayHow do I find the BusID for my video card?07:28
Lafitte-MythTV is a homebrew PVR project07:28
JohnnyQuestya07:29
JohnnyQuestand im tryin to install that07:29
tsumeJohnnyQuest: you might want to use the Knoppix MythTV install07:29
JohnnyQuesti used that07:29
JohnnyQuesti didnt like it07:29
tsumeJohnnyQuest: its hell to set up07:29
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naliothhowdy y'all07:29
JohnnyQuestwell, knoppix was hell to change settings07:29
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JohnnyQuestubuntu is a lil easier to use for me..07:30
tsumeJohnnyQuest: wait until you set up mythtv from scratch, its not already setup07:30
muttDCquestion: how can i "desinstall" a fglx driver i already installed?07:30
Lafitte-guys    mythtv in in apt-get07:30
OpppzMy ps2 mouse don't work.. I change xorg.conf.. and reboot.. but.. nothing! What can I do?07:30
Lafitte-rofl07:30
bob2muttDC: remove the packages you installed07:31
tsumeLafitte-: thats the older myth07:31
randabisdepends on how you installed the fglx driver I suppose07:31
tsumeI recommend using mythtv from the mythtv cvs07:31
bob2muttDC: if you installed it from source, read the instrucions07:31
bob2but it may not be posssible\07:31
tsumemore features07:31
muttDCok, thanks07:31
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funkyhi07:31
Lafitte-tsume,  wont work ??07:31
JohnnyQuestim trying the cvs myth07:32
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OpppzMy ps2 mouse don't work.. I change xorg.conf.. and reboot.. but.. nothing! What can I do?07:32
tsumeLafitte-: CVS version of mythtv has more features07:32
JohnnyQuestim actually gonna head to bed07:32
JohnnyQuestits late07:32
funkywhat is the comress format that is compressed ubuntu's initrd ?07:32
xbaxehello all....07:32
tsumeLafitte-: and less bugs07:32
JohnnyQuestbut, thanx for the help07:32
Lafitte-tsume,  oic07:32
funkyi can uncompress it07:32
funkycant*07:32
Lafitte-nice software to have07:32
funkynormally is gzipped07:32
tsumeLafitte-: I couldn't call mythtv releases stable..07:32
bob2funky: it's just a cramfs image07:33
bob2funky: what are you planning to do?07:33
Lafitte-tsume,  aww07:33
JovenComunistawhy i can't install the vlc ???07:33
funkybob2: i would like to modify the apm load at booting time07:33
funkyi dont want it tries to load apm.ko07:33
OpppzMy ps2 mouse don't work.. I change xorg.conf.. and reboot.. but.. nothing! What can I do?07:34
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funkybob2: thanks i have mounted the initrd07:34
Lafitte-Opppz, what kind of mouse is it ??07:35
OpppzI change the "/dev/input/mice"  to " /dev/psaux" and nothing07:35
Opppzps2 mouse... very old!! hehehe07:35
bob2funky: you don't need to fiddle the initrd to do that07:35
Lafitte-Opppz, i would leave it alone whatever it defaults too07:35
jtorgerswhy are there so many md5 mismatches today?07:35
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funkybob2: then, how can i get that ?07:36
bob2funky: to make it not load apm?07:36
funkybob2: yes07:36
naliothOpppz: if someone knows the ansnwer to your question, they will answer07:36
funkyIm using acpi07:36
bob2funky: er, acpi is loaded by default07:36
cleewtf07:36
cleewhy does breezy turn on HashKnownHosts by default?07:36
funkyi know, but it tries to load apm.ko too07:36
bob2it's cleetastic07:36
clee(hi, bob2)07:37
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clee(I'm bitching about ssh_config, btw)07:37
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yccheokanyone had tried the g++4.0? seems very very buggy07:38
bob2how so?07:38
bob2funky: "it" = hotplug?07:38
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hondjeclee: Why don't you like that?07:40
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Lafitte-is that how you do it   /ignore Opppz!*.*     ??07:40
bleckhello, does anyone know how to change the default port of the vnc remote desktop server?07:40
funkybob2: no, i have tried to blacklisted it, but it still tries to load07:40
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bob2funky: what problem does it trying to load cause?07:41
bob2it'll just be refused07:41
funkystetic problem :P07:41
naliothhondje: you still awake?07:41
funkysorry for my english07:41
funkystetic ? you know ?07:41
funkymaybe i have invented that word07:41
hondjenalioth: yep07:41
funkyapparence problem, i dont like see crap lines at booting time07:42
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bob2stetic isn't a word07:44
funkyaesthetic07:44
funkyesttico = aesthetic07:44
cleehondje: because I have a really sweet zsh completion that uses my ~/.ssh/config07:44
bob2right07:44
tsumezsh > *07:44
cleehondje: automatically provides hosts based on the IPs and the hostnames from ~/.ssh/config and ~/.ssh/known_hosts07:44
tsumethe shell of gods07:44
hondjeclee: ah :)07:45
randabisdamn this is weird07:46
randabisI'm getting md5sum mismatches all over the place in apt07:47
FR500what are good sites for linux games?07:47
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nomasteryodaFR500, sites?... look in synaptic07:48
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FR500nomasteryoda, lol, there aren't big big games there07:48
nomasteryodaFR500, bzflag07:48
syndFR500: usually people pay for "big big games"07:49
FR500i meant etf and alike07:49
nomasteryodaalso Enemy Territory07:49
nomasteryodaboth free07:49
FR500synd, http://www.happypenguin.org/07:49
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nomasteryodacourse you need a good video card07:49
FR500i pay too07:49
nomasteryodayea07:49
nomasteryodaDoom3 ...07:49
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nomasteryodaruns sweet on a 256mb nvidia07:49
errrdoes anyone know the package name which provides the automake and autotools and what not needed to build packages from source. I thought it was called build tools, or build utils but I dont see either one, and I hate to have to pick each package 1 by 1...07:49
naliotherrr: build-essential07:50
errrahh thats the one thanks :)07:50
naliothhave fun compiling (don't forget the checkinstall <for last resorts>)07:50
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errrthanks :)07:51
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bigbill52adoes anyone know why some of my packages are not downloading07:51
bob2errr: that doesn't install automake or anything, tho07:51
bob2since you don't need them to compile source07:51
bill__just did the whole update package just fine07:51
bigbill52ausing the sources.list from the unofficial guide07:51
bill__on a new install07:51
bob2I wish the unofficial guide wouldn't encourage people to do that07:52
bill__first time w/ ubuntu :-)07:52
thechitowncubsi've been wondering, is it easier to develop for Linux or Windows?07:52
syndanyone know of any good RPG games for linux?07:52
bob2synd: falcons eye?07:52
FR500Stendhal looks gun07:52
FR500fun07:52
bob2thechitowncubs: entirely subjective07:52
randabisheh07:52
bob2lots of people find developing windows to be shockingly painful07:53
bob2(e.g. me ;)07:53
bill__thers a site that tells the compatible games07:53
errrbob2: me too!!07:53
syndbob2: whats the sys requirments for that?07:53
randabisus.archive.ubuntu.com has some md5sum mismatches going on...using archive.ubuntu.com fixed my problem07:53
nalioththechitowncubs: its cheaper to dev for linux07:53
bill__cant remember  though07:53
FR500bill__, no game is compatible without cedega or wine07:53
bob2synd: I don't know07:53
bigbill52ait was working till this afternoon...thanks07:53
thechitowncubsnalioth: i think everything is cheaper on nix :)07:53
bill__k07:54
bill__thanks07:54
bill__im a nooc, can you tell07:54
nomasteryodaand cedega is pretty good07:54
thechitowncubsI wonder why google hasn't developed software for linux then07:54
nomasteryodaalso crossover office07:54
nalioththechitowncubs: come on, don't you love the $2500 msrp for the full Visual Crap STupidio from M$?07:54
nomasteryodaesp for shockwave web games07:54
cleebtw, if anybody wants the zsh line that totally rules (when you turn off HashKnownHosts):07:54
zerokillsim having problems with Cedega07:54
cleezstyle -e ':completion::*:hosts' hosts 'reply=($(sed -e "/^#/d" -e "s/ .*\$//" -e "s/,/ /g" /etc/ssh_known_hosts(N) ~/.ssh/known_hosts(N) 2>/dev/null | xargs) $(grep \^Host ~/.ssh/config(N) | cut -f2 -d\  2>/dev/null | xargs))'07:54
FR500i think some game companies will start using wine or cedega soon to provide compatibilty07:54
thechitowncubsthey need to lead the industry into linux07:54
thechitowncubsya nalioth, thats insane07:54
bob2thechitowncubs: because there's little need to07:54
bill__yes they will07:55
thechitowncubsthere won't be soon07:55
bob2thechitowncubs: linux orbwsers have the most important bits of the google toolbar by default07:55
FR500thechitowncubs, why not?07:55
bill__almost all my friend are on linux now07:55
thechitowncubsbecause linux is getting popular07:55
bob2thechitowncubs: there are other gmail applets on linux07:55
bob2etc07:55
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bill__yepper07:55
thechitowncubsbob2: im talking about software such as Hello07:55
bob2thechitowncubs: which is?07:55
thechitowncubsor picasa (even f-spot is on the way)07:55
thechitowncubsits a photo sharing application07:55
FR500good game for linux: http://www.nexuiz.com/07:56
thechitowncubswww.hello.com07:56
FR500it rocks07:56
bill__whats a good mp3 player for ubuntu ??07:56
syndbill__: xmms07:56
errrfspot is sweet, isnt it in mono?07:56
FR500bill__, i like beep better07:56
bill__k07:56
thechitowncubsya, it is07:56
bill__thanks07:56
errrmono is cross platform07:56
FR500bill__, it's same as xmms but i find it more user friendly07:57
bill__how bout i try em both07:57
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errrthe demos of mono I have seen they take code straight from windows to linux changing nothing07:57
naliothbill__: thats the wonderful thing about linux, it's all free07:57
bill__yes i need user friendly07:57
FR500bill__, beep is a fork or xmms07:57
funkyerrr: you can launch monodevelop from ubuntu rep. correctly ?07:57
bill__k07:57
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naliothbill__: so while you're trying "beep media player" and xmms, try rhythmbox and amarok, too07:57
naliothbill__: not to forget mpg12307:58
bill__kool07:58
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thoreauputicbill__: they are quite similar - beep-media-player looks better, xmms has more available plugins07:58
errrfunky: Im not sure to be honest. I have only seen a couple demos at LUG meetings and I am always late to them...07:58
bill__anything 4 making digital tunes with ?07:58
bill__like fruity loops07:58
bob2bill__: sweep, terminatorx, etc07:58
geneo93help W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libg/libggi/libggi2_2.0.5-1ubuntu1_i386.deb07:58
geneo93  MD5Sum mismatch07:58
funkyerrr: ok07:58
thoreauputicbill__: for midi etc,, rosegarden407:58
bill__sweet07:58
bill__thats all i do wthis pc07:59
errrfunky: but the 2 demos I saw the guy doing them was using horay07:59
bill__tunes n gaming07:59
thoreauputicbill__: audacity is also a nice audio editor07:59
FR500btw, what is a "fork"07:59
thechitowncubshttp://groups-beta.google.com/group/picasa/browse_thread/thread/21c7f07d858156a2/eb82c71206d1b022?q=linux&hl=en#eb82c71206d1b02207:59
Madpilotevening, all.07:59
nomasteryodaand ampache is a nice music server =)07:59
bill__damn, thanks for the input08:00
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errrgnump3d is also nice for streaming your music collection I love it on my LAN08:00
thoreauputicbill__: if you like shoutcast, check streamtuner and streamripper08:00
Madpilotfor just playing music, give Muine a shot - it's in the repos for Ubuntu as well...08:00
bill__cant find a xp chat that people are so nice on08:00
bigbill52athat did fix it..i appreciate the help08:00
naliothFR500: a fork is when someon takes the source code, runs away in another direction then the original code writer(s)08:00
nomasteryodayea, gnump3d is simple to setup, but ampache is awesome! ... #ampache08:00
bill__mr gates can go fdisk himself08:01
naliothFR500: sorta like the theory of evolution08:01
thoreauputicbill__: that's the Ubuntu philosophy :)08:01
bill__10-408:01
nomasteryodabill__, could not have said it better myself08:01
Madpilotthoreauputic: although I think most ppl express it a bit more... politely... most of the time, anyway...08:01
Madpilot:)08:01
FR500nalioth, ok08:01
thechitowncubslol bill08:01
geneo93no comment08:01
bill__gone just about as far as i can go w/ ms08:01
foxinesscan i'm create folder with name like this ????? ????08:02
thoreauputicMadpilot: I meant the niceness, not the Bill * comment :)08:02
Madpilotthoreauputic: oh, sure... :p08:02
thoreauputic;-)08:02
bill__lol08:02
nomasteryodahehe08:02
naliothbob2, thoreauputic y'all know any 0-conf apps (like Apple Rendevous)?08:02
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bill__a little slipknot, too much coffe, i'm good08:03
thoreauputicMadpilot: I'm sure Mr gates is a member of the human community... oh, wait, did I say that *g* ?08:03
bigbill52athe ati driver that is in restricted is for xfree and not xorg08:03
bill__bite your tounge08:03
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bill__so far im really impressed w/ this OS08:04
bigbill52arestricted modules...if anyone needs help on installing the ati driver just pm08:04
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syndbill__: thats why its #1 on distrowatch.com : )08:04
bill__need to get the books though08:04
bill__i hear that08:05
bill__tried suse08:05
naliothanyone know of any zero-configuration tools for linux (like Apple's Rendevous)08:05
bill__major headache08:05
foxinessi have backup.tgz and it content "/media/????? ????/backupishere" and if i do tar xvpfz backup.tgz , will it give me error and i can not create it by hand from GUI is there away around this?08:05
randabissuse = stupid useless system express08:06
randabis:p08:06
bill__been spoiled w point n clickers08:06
foxinessrandabis, :)08:06
randabisj/k suse isn't horrible...other than yast08:06
bill__gotta get back to basics08:06
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Madpilotcan someone remind me how to check the md5sum on a download? want to burn Hoary ISOs, but need to check the d/l first08:07
bill__that damn kmail wont work at all08:07
foxinessmd5sum file08:07
paul_hey, is anyone getting md5sum file errors?08:07
syndpaul_: i have been08:07
randabispaul_: I was08:07
foxinessand than it will give you some out put08:07
nomasteryodabill__, try running from terminal08:07
naliothbill__: try evolution or sylpheed08:07
syndpaul_: with marrilat or whatever08:07
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randabisI changed sources.list though and fixed it08:08
bill__using ev. now08:08
bill__like a charm :-)08:08
randabisI changed us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com08:08
paul_alright, im gonna try that now08:08
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Madpilotfoxiness: thnx, Terminal seems to be chugging thru that now08:08
randabismarillat is messed up too, don't have a fix for that yet08:08
bigfoot1hello, I'm new to linux/ubuntu. Sometimes my computer runs slow, and I believe it's caused by a high IOwait level, as seen in the systems monitor applet. Can anyone tell me what influences high IOwait? And can something be done about it? Thank you.08:08
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thechitowncubsWhat do you guys recommend to learn how to program? Where should i start learning?08:09
yonilanyone here got amule running ? i dont seem to be able to get the server list ..08:09
foxinessMadpilot, np08:10
thoreauputicthechitowncubs: bash :)08:10
syndyonil: you should try gtk-gnutella08:10
nemikwhere do usb ports appear? in /dev/...?08:10
Madpilotthechitowncubs: start with HTML & CSS? it's not "really" programming, but it'll get you thinking in the right way, mostly.08:10
spunoutthechitown, program in what?08:10
thechitowncubsI have pretty basic knowledge of html and css08:10
yonilsynd, why ? is it the same protocol as *mule ?08:10
spunoutthechitown, php is good08:10
thechitowncubsi don't really want to develop for web applications08:10
syndyonil: amule is p2p, correct?08:11
thechitowncubshow did YOU people learn to program?08:11
spunoutthechitown, get your self some ebooks from the usenet08:11
paul_synd: thanks a lot!08:11
paul_it works now08:11
yonilsynd, yeah, but i need amule servers, not other servers ..08:11
nemikchitown, i am also in chitown, started with PHP and mySQL. read tutorials and hung out in #php on quakenet a lot08:11
Madpilotthechitowncubs: I haven't, yet :) aside from HTML/CSS and "Hello World" in PHP...08:12
bill__noob w/ a capital N, thats me08:12
syndyonil: oh i see.08:12
spunoutoregon state has an ed2go program, with pretty decent stuff...online classes08:12
Madpilotany book by OReilly or Peachpit, that's my default starting point!08:12
syndpaul_: howd i help you ?08:12
syndpaul_: either way, ill take the thanks : )08:12
thechitowncubsi know OF all the programming languages, but i want to know where to start specifically, what do you guys recommend08:12
thoreauputicbill__: the sooner you stop labelling yourself "noob". the sooner you will cease to be one08:12
thoreauputic:)08:12
nemikchitown, i recommend PHP08:13
paul_sorry, synd. I was thanking the wrong person :(  thanks Randabis!08:13
thechitowncubsi don't really want to develop for web applications08:13
syndpaul_: no prob08:13
spunoutwell, what do you want to develop for?08:13
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nemikahh then...java?08:13
bill__k, im a work in progress08:14
bill__:-)08:14
thoreauputicbill__: much better ! :)08:14
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randabisnp paul_08:14
bill__TY08:14
thechitowncubsSimple useful applications08:14
thechitowncubsI just want to learn the basics08:15
thechitowncubsas of now08:15
nemikummmm08:15
bill__this is litarrly my firs time actually using linux !!08:15
nemikright now for me, web dev is more useful for me than any non-web apps08:15
nomasteryodabill__, congrats then dude08:15
thoreauputicthechitowncubs: I think bash scripts are a good place to start personally: have a look at the Xdialog and Zenity GUI kits08:16
nomasteryodanvu08:16
nemiksimply because if its on the net,i can use and access my data anywhere08:16
nemikperl is also a great beginner language08:16
bill__dont know why i waited so log08:16
bill__long08:16
ardob11what software would you recommend for web authoring on linux, I used Dreamweaver on Windows08:16
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nemiknvu, right?08:16
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thoreauputicardob11: start with nvu or mozilla-composer08:17
ardob11ok then08:17
MattAndreasSo anyone found an Ardour package for ubuntu?  That, failing, some other packages studio software?08:17
MattAndreaspackaged, even  :)08:17
ardob11how is it compared to dreamweaver, any idea?08:17
turfcan any one direct me to how i can play avi from my totem, i can only hear the sound but not the image. i already visited http://powerpc.ubuntuguide.org/ and no lack08:17
spunoutquanta plus?08:17
nemikbut authors are for pussies. nano is all you need! :D08:17
MattAndreasheh08:17
spunoutArdour is in backports or marillat or something...08:18
nemikor emacs if you wanna be fancy ;)08:18
naliothnemik: hear! hear!08:18
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spunoutim a vi guy08:18
Kamping_Kaiserwhat about screem08:18
MattAndreasnot backports...08:18
naliothturf: you are on a PPC?08:18
MattAndreasI'll try marillat08:18
bill__K  my new UBUNTU friends, good night chat at'cha later08:18
turfnaderman: yap08:18
nemiksee ya bill__ and enjoy this!08:19
bill__ty 4 the help08:19
turfyap!08:19
spunoutmaybe rarewares, for ardour08:19
thoreauputic apt-cache policy ardour-gtk 500 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages08:19
spunoutI just apt-getted ardour-gtk, but had some issues...08:19
thoreauputicit's in universe08:19
naliothturf: i recommend you find some reliable deb-src archives08:19
paul_anyone able to guide me through installing a printer (windows network) on my machine? :)08:19
turfnalioth,: ibook clam shell type to be ecact08:19
MattAndreasspunout: what issues?08:19
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naliothturf may a pm you?08:19
paul_i attempted to install, but it apparently didnt work08:20
turfnalioth: sure08:20
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spunoutI use the sources.list from the unofficial ubuntu guide, and it does me right08:20
jeldhi all08:21
com08:21
jeldare there any problems with the repositories at the moment?08:21
syndspunout: i do too08:21
spunoutyes it htink there are08:21
thoreauputicjeld: it's in the /topic08:21
spunoutor were08:21
MattAndreasspun: what issues did you have with ardour?08:22
jeldthoreauputic, oh, that sucks08:22
naliothsynd: you big liar, you are a pure src compiler!08:22
spunoutMattAndrea: imlib didn't install right, said something about the md5sums not adding up08:22
MattAndreasdid it run?08:22
spunoutandd gtk-imlib08:22
spunoutno08:23
MattAndreashrm..08:23
nemikspunout: change the sources.list08:23
spunoutnemik, to what?08:23
nemikwell its probably to us.archives or ca.archives which are down (check topic)08:23
syndnalioth: thats right, i forgot :>08:23
nemikso just do http://archives....08:23
MattAndreasI'm hoping to make my ubuntu box my jukebox and audio recording station08:23
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spunoutMattAndrea, so you use Amarok for the Jukebox?08:24
MattAndreasI intend to08:24
bigbill52ajust delete us on each entry....08:24
MattAndreasjust getting going with this system08:24
syndbob2, thoreauputic: do you all know of any zero-conf. networking apps such as Apple's rendezvous/bonjour08:24
synd?08:24
bob2synd: rendezvous more or less works on linux08:25
spunoutamarok works great, I love the way it crossfades automatically and suggests songs for playing based on the ones you are playing and have played08:25
nemiki know menage a trois ;)08:25
naliothsynd: i think they've gone to bed, i asked em whallago08:25
bob2you need to be more specific about what you want it to do, tho08:25
MattAndreasspun: cool.  Now I just want to get the recording part decided08:25
naliothbob2 ya didnt see it when I asked whallago?08:25
MattAndreasif ardour won't work, I need something else08:25
bob2I did indeed08:25
MattAndreasor I need to use it on a different distrib08:25
syndbob2: im trying to tap into iTunes Library streaming via Rendezvous on my Ubuntu box08:25
bob2when I looked just now08:25
randabisamarok rocks08:26
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spunoutI bet it may have been a repository thing... i will ssh over there and check it out, as soon as java's done installing (did an apt-get install azureus and it just pulled java down too, slick!)08:26
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syndbob2: iTunes picks up my Limewire playlist sharing (from Ubuntu) and it does fine. I'd just like to do the reverse08:26
MattAndreasI need a better nickname08:26
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Sozebetter08:26
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Sozeno08:26
Sozeowned by another08:27
Sozeok08:27
Sozethink...08:27
syndSoze: add kaiser to the beginning08:27
Sozecould do that08:27
chatingFailed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/x/xfce4-panel/xfce4-panel_4.2.1.1-1ubuntu1_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch08:27
spunoutMiserSose08:27
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chatinghow to fix it ?08:27
KSozeK makes it easier to type08:27
syndnow lowercase it : )08:27
chatingwhats repository others us or ca ?08:27
KSozeand I believe McQuarrie used the 'Keyser' spelling08:27
bob2chating: use archive.ubuntu.com then08:27
KSozesynd: for easier typing still?08:28
roberti've aliased my via_rhine ethernet card for dhcp-client in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases because it wasn't autodetected on the install, so far when i've ran ifup eth0, it brings up the eth0 and eth0:0, eth0:0 manages to grab an IP but I still can't do anything. any ideas? also; i've got /etc/network/interfaces setup with 'iface eth0 inet dhcp'08:28
syndKSoze: sure08:28
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ksozeokee08:28
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kaiserroll/nick kaiserroll08:28
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kaiserrolli need sleep08:28
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ksozeheh08:28
syndi need female08:28
nemikhahah08:29
naliothalso need instructions in using irssi08:29
ksozeI need sleep with female08:29
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bob2come on folks08:29
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bob2nalioth: it's the same as every other curses irc client08:29
hondjeI'm on freenode, I'm going to brag. :)08:29
naliothksoze: those two items are mutually exclusive08:29
syndbob2: any ideas?08:29
ksozebut more, I need a good audio recoding program08:29
bigbill52ai just need sleep...lol08:29
bob2synd: no, sorry, I've never used itunes08:29
ksozenalioth: sometimes, yes indeed08:29
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naliothbob2: until last week, i've never used a cursed irc client08:29
bob2wow08:29
xbaxehello all08:29
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nomasteryodaksoze, audacity?08:30
xbaxei just started using ubuntu08:30
ksozehaven't tried it08:30
nomasteryodaits pretty sweet08:30
xbaxen ive got a problem , what is the default root passwd?08:30
syndxbaxe: run into a problem?08:30
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syndxbaxe: there isnt one08:30
spunoutlooks like i am using us.archive.ubuntu.com and it is working??08:30
paul_where can I find info on installing network printers (specifically SMB)08:30
ksozeIs there a good place to find a fairly canonical listing of what sound programs exist as packages for ubuntu?08:30
bob2xbaxe: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo08:30
syndxbaxe: sudo takes care of that08:30
bob2xbaxe: it's in the faq, and the installer explained it at the end of the install08:31
bob2ksoze: no08:31
xbaxesynd: but dont you need a password?08:31
spunoutksoze, audacity seems like the goods08:31
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ksozeand where is that to be found?08:31
syndxbaxe: you need your password08:31
chatingbob2,  thanks08:31
naliothbob2 is there a webpage/project we could look at re the 0-conf networking?08:31
bob2nalioth: don't know of one08:31
xbaxesynd: i dont remember setting a root password08:31
syndxbaxe: because there isnt one08:31
Madpilotblast... it seems I have bad RAM... system keeps freezing solid, and my BIOS just reported "System Memory Failure" when I tried to reboot just now... :(08:31
bigbill52asometimes ubuntu installs asking for root password...08:31
xbaxesynd: only my own08:32
bigbill52ain expert mode08:32
bob2we're still waiting for someone to make a proper Free noconfig library08:32
syndxbaxe: read the wiki that bob2 gave you08:32
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ksozeI had a strange thing happen.  the add/remove programs util asked for a password, and the root password didn't work, but my user password did08:32
bob2ksoze: 16:30:55           bob2 | xbaxe: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo08:32
bigbill52aand then it leaves your name out of the sudoers list08:32
ksozeahhhh08:32
xbaxeok thanks08:32
ksozecool08:32
bob2xbaxe: the installer explained that to you, and it's in the faq08:32
nate_having some trouble with vnc... i can connect, but all i get is an empty X screen08:32
naliothksoze: you silly user, YOUR pwd is the root pwd08:33
ksozeit is?08:33
syndnate_: the vncserver is running on the other box, right?08:33
nate_yup08:33
ksozeso what is the root pwd for, then?08:33
nate_hence the connection08:33
bigbill52abut i like having a root password...since if the user window crashes you can log on as root and add another user08:33
spunoutapt-cache search sound | less08:33
ksozeI mean, the once with the root account08:33
ksozethe one, rather08:33
nate_last time i installed vncserver, i was able to just connect without a problem08:33
bob2nalioth: er, no08:33
bob2nalioth: there's an important difference there08:33
bob2ksoze: there is no root password08:34
bigbill52a(which has happened...)08:34
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nomasteryoda any idea which is best for USB HD? ... Reiser or ext3?08:34
syndnate_: i had a similar problem when trying to connect to one of my ubuntu boxes from my OS X machien08:34
bob2bigbill52a: er, "user window"?08:34
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nate_solution?08:35
ksozebob2: is that a good thing?08:35
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bob2ksoze: yes08:35
bigbill52amy gnome totally crashed...couldnt log in ...had to use root08:35
randabisbigbill52a: if something like that happened, you could probably just login to another tty08:35
bob2bigbill52a: you don't have to use root08:35
syndnate_: it'd connect, and have the same resolution in the window as if it was there, but nothing was rendered08:35
scanwinderwhen i try 2 install ubuntu on my laptop, i get the following error:  RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 008:35
scanwinderany ideas how 2 fix it?08:35
bob2scanwinder: that's not an error08:35
xbaxesynd : so , my passwd is the root passwd?08:35
ksozeI read the article you pointed to, but I'm not sure why root had to be nuked.  I like the use of sudo, but can't it be handy sometimes to have good ol' root?08:35
syndnate_: well, i restarted the vncserver and restarted chicken of the VNC on OS X and it worked.08:35
bob2ksoze: it didn't have to be nuked, it was done for simplicity08:35
ws010hai08:35
spunoutksoze, then you just sudo su08:36
ws010gjhagksa08:36
bob2ksoze: I don't think there's any situation where it's neccessary to have a root account08:36
syndxbaxe: technically no08:36
naliothksoze: i've been using linux over 5 years, and have yet to find an instance here that i needed a "root" account08:36
ksozebob2: can it be brought back by editing the pwd file?08:36
ws010gjhsgajkd08:36
ws010fsadjgaj08:36
bigbill52ayeah...it is for me..and using expert mode..was able to establish root pasword...08:36
ws010jafkjhakj08:36
ws010ghfkadhgf08:36
ws010kghskljg08:36
hondjebob2: ethereal08:36
xbaxebob2 , i like root08:36
randabisroot wasn't nuked completely...he's still there and can be enabled08:36
ws010hkjg08:36
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syndws010: wtf08:36
ws010hkjsdfhg08:36
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bob2ksoze: if you really want to...08:36
xbaxesynd : i prefer root , i usually su only when i wnna pass shutdowns08:36
bob2hondje: how does that not work with sudo?08:36
syndxbaxe: theres no reason08:36
ksozebob2: I likely may not, but just asking08:36
spunoutthe only reason i wanted root was for webmin, but then I found out how to edit the password for webmin and it didnt matter08:36
bob2xbaxe: good for you, you can enable it if you really want, but be aware some things might break08:36
hondjebob2: something about kernel stuff08:37
hondjebob2: You can't use all the features w/out root, like capturing08:37
randabisI see no need for su or direct root access if you have sudo08:37
naliothsynd: if you dont speak kghskljg, then he wasnt talking to you08:37
ksozethings might break with an enabled root?08:37
randabisone can always just sudo -s if they want a root prompt08:37
syndnalioth: say what?08:37
nalioth01:34 < synd> ws010: wtf08:38
nate_synd: strangely enough, that worked08:38
nate_thx :)08:38
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syndnalioth: hah.08:38
syndnate_: : )08:38
ksozeso is audacity nicely packaged for easy install?08:38
randabisksoze: yep08:38
bob2ksoze: http://packages.ubuntu.com08:39
syndksoze: as most things are08:39
ksozewell cool08:39
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el_zor0anyone here successfuly built xdoom from source?08:40
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naliothel_zor0: is that a doom clone?08:40
el_zor0its a port, based on origanal id code08:41
ksozesynd: as I see now.  ardour and audacity are both there08:41
naliothel_zor0: where is the source?08:41
el_zor0I'm trying to build psdoom, its a sys admin tool where the game creates a monster for every process and you run arround shooting your processes08:41
el_zor0wounded = reniced08:41
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el_zor0killed = kill -908:41
nomasteryodalol08:41
xbaxehiaz....08:41
xbaxeim getting thunderbird to install08:42
el_zor0anyway, the only binary package of psdoom I can find is for OSX, the irony is sickening08:42
xbaxewish we could have a cool looking CML tool like emerge for gentoo08:42
naliothel_zor0: so where is the source for those fun box killing games?08:42
ksozehrm...this is an interesting learning experience08:42
bob2xbaxe: "cml"?08:42
el_zor0and xdoom won't build because it says I theres a problem with a pointer in the code08:42
naliothxbaxe: port it08:42
ksozeI've worked with tarballs before, but not these packages08:42
el_zor0nalioth: what? box killing games?08:42
bob2el_zor0: lxdoom is in ubuntu...08:43
xbaxebob2 : CoMmand Line08:43
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naliothel_zor0: the doom games you are on abou08:43
xbaxenalioth : wish i was good enough to ......08:43
ksozeso I downloaded the package, and FileRoller opened it08:43
naliothxbaxe: commonly abbreviated CLI08:43
ksozeshould I have just dropped it on the desktop instead08:43
xbaxenalioth : my bad then sorry08:43
ksozeand used add/remove programs to install it?08:43
nate_hmmm... still not working quite right08:43
naliothxbaxe: not at all08:44
bob2ksoze: er08:44
bob2ksoze: why are you downloading packages at all?08:44
el_zor0nalioth: abou?08:44
thoreauputicksoze: none of the above for .debs08:44
naliothxbaxe: we all make up tlas and flas, the trick is to get everyone to use them08:44
ksozebob2: as opposed to what?08:44
naliothel_zor0: n/m i'm googling it. it sounds interesting08:44
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bob2ksoze: as opposed to letting apt do it08:44
thoreauputicksoze: use synaptic or apt08:44
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el_zor0it looks awesome, but can't make it work08:44
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el_zor0the catch is aparently the monsters can get friendly fire on eachother and take down your system08:45
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el_zor0I've got a journaling fs, I'm game to try it08:45
xbaxenalioth : true08:45
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syndto waste lots of time08:45
xbaxesynd : try www.runescape.com08:45
nate_synd: planeshift.it08:45
ksozehow do I find a given package with synamptic?08:45
el_zor0synd: nethack?08:45
xbaxeits java08:45
xbaxeand free08:45
ksozeI have it running but can't find what I want in the listing08:46
hondjesynd: glest is RPG? I"m not sure about game categories08:46
bob2ksoze: there's no find option?08:46
hondjeno, it's 'real time strategy'08:46
thoreauputicksoze: first I suggest you look here: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto08:46
ksozethere's a search08:46
xbaxesynd : nethack and ADOM aint bad08:46
xbaxeADOM is best on www.gamhippo's rpg list08:46
bob2ksoze: there you go08:46
hondjenethack is great, especially w/ falcons eye08:46
naliothel_zor0: where did you get the source code for the doom games of which you speak?08:47
xbaxebut ADOM is windows only08:47
syndxbaxe, nate_, el_zor0, hondje: thx08:47
ksozebut the search turns up nothing08:47
ksozeI'll go to the URL08:47
thoreauputicksoze: you will want the Universe repository, and probably multiverse as well08:47
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xbaxehondjie :yep , it is damm good ... if i could get used to da commands08:47
el_zor0http://psdoom.sourceforge.net/download.html08:47
el_zor0that'll link you up08:47
hondjeMadpilot: ET is fun08:47
syndsweet deal08:47
naliothel_zor0: thx08:47
hondjeMadpilot: It's not in the repos, but it's very easy to install08:47
el_zor0madpilot: you need windows :-/08:47
el_zor0madpilot: on linux though, go for doom 308:48
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hondjeDoom3, Unreal-whatever, Wolfenstein, Enemy Territory, Americas Army...08:48
ksozeand those are not in by defaultl, I assume08:48
ksozeok08:48
Madpilotthanks, everyone, I'll look for those... :)08:48
spunoutGot Ardor installed...08:48
hondjehl2 runs in cedega08:48
schoremheya08:49
xbaxewhere can i find windows games lookalikes for linux?08:49
el_zor0cedega is a pain in the ass though, always craps out and runs weird for me08:49
spunoutnow I need to configure JACK... probably just having issues because i running remote X08:49
Madpilotblowing sh*t up can be relaxing... try Scorched3d - it *is* in the repos, and it's cool08:49
ksozemaybe I'll try ardour myself, then08:49
hondjeYou guys know there's a gaming forum at ubuntuforums.org08:49
hondjeMadpilot: bzflag is fun08:49
Madpilothondje: I didn't actually. Will have to check it out.08:50
jakejan1991is it possible to install ubuntu from the live CD?  i doubt it, but....possible?08:50
hondjebzflag > *08:50
syndjakejan1991: i dont think so08:50
jakejan1991ok08:50
syndcorrect me if im wrong though08:50
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jakejan1991i have no idea08:51
el_zor0this is a little bit of what make gives me for xdoom08:51
el_zor0playmus.c:156: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type08:51
el_zor0playmus.c:156: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type08:51
el_zor0that about 50 times08:52
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hondjeouch08:52
ksozeok...audacity and ardour installed.  cool.08:52
naliothjakejan1991: it is possible, but way out of newbie land08:53
jakejan1991haha.  i can only imagine.08:53
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hondjeah, one woody upgraded to sarge, praise the overlords.08:54
randabisheh cool08:54
jakejan1991also, does anyone know how to access windows files from ubuntu running on a live CD?  i dont see the C: drive anywhere08:54
randabisheard there were a lot of problems for some people upgrading from woody08:55
ksozehrm...08:55
concept10ubuntu has a horrible default font.  its just not the same Sans.  What system wide font are you guys using?08:55
ksozeaudacity not happy08:55
ksozeproblem initialting the I/O layer08:55
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hondjeconcept10: system -> preferences -> fonts should tell you what you're using08:55
ksozeit detects no playback device, even though ubuntu does just fine08:55
ksozehrm...08:55
ksozelet's see what ardour does...08:56
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hondjerandabis: I heard that too, but this one went smooth08:56
thoreauputicksoze: esd problem with audacity08:56
concept10I know what im using (Sans) ....... i asked what you guys are using...08:56
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hondjeoh08:56
hondjeI'm using sans08:56
hondjewhen I'm not, I like arial08:56
ksozeesd?08:56
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ksozeardour couldn't connect to JACK...08:57
ksozeman, I'ma  babe in the woods on this thing.08:57
ksozeahh, to learn again - 'tis fun08:57
hornsbymorning all08:57
thoreauputicksoze: audacity wants to use oss - esd is the enlightened sound daemon (so called :/ )08:57
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ksozeso I'm hosed?08:58
thoreauputicno08:58
ksozeor I have to go get oss?08:58
thoreauputicneither08:58
ksozeaha!08:58
randabiskill esd08:58
ksozeheh08:58
ksozepermanently?08:58
thoreauputicbut audacity sometimes plays nicer no08:58
thoreauputicoops08:58
thoreauputicksoze: not permanently08:59
pepsiis firefox broken for everyone in breezy or did i do something extra special to bork mine? ;D08:59
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thoreauputicksoze: try `killall esd` in a terminal, then type ` audacity ` and see what happens08:59
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randabispepsi: your problem is using breezy09:00
randabisheh09:00
thoreauputicksoze: you might need ` sudo killall esd` (not sure)09:00
ksozethoreauputic: worked09:00
thoreauputicaha09:00
pepsirandabis, right.. but thats not the issue09:00
hondjedoes killall send HUP by default?09:00
pepsiwhats up with all the default "cause you're using breezy" responses?09:00
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ksozeso do I just write  acript to kill esd and then run audacity every time?09:01
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ksozeor can I permanently yank esd?09:01
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ksozeand still maintain jukebox capability?09:01
randabisI wouldn't permanently yank esd09:01
hondjeoh, SIGTERM09:01
thoreauputicksoze: hmm - you can (I have) but you need to reconfigure sound somewhat to do that09:01
randabisat least on gnome systems09:01
randabiskubuntu user here :)09:01
thoreauputicrandabis: I use dmix09:02
ksozeso is the better option just kill esd every time I want to use audacity?09:02
thoreauputicksoze: at the moment, yeah09:02
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randabisthoreauputic: nifty.09:02
thoreauputicksoze: until you get comfortable09:02
hondjeI found that by turning off sound events, esd doesn't barf as much09:02
ksozeand after that?  :)09:02
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randabisyou'll have to use the force09:02
ksozeheh09:03
thoreauputicksoze: then you can use a howto to reconfigure sound09:03
ksozeso what the hell is JACK that ardour is complaingin about?09:03
Madpilotksoze: you can restart ESD just by typing esd at a terminal09:03
ksozefigured that much, but thank you kindly09:03
nate_synd: so i'm trying to set up gallery... anyone have experience with it?09:03
thoreauputicksoze: ah - you are kind of jumping in at the deep end ;)09:04
syndnate_: gallery?09:04
ksozeit's my way :)09:04
goye2czI've opened Synaptic package manager and want to install the libqt3c102-mt package. I don't find it in the list though. What can I do?09:04
ksozewell, I do music, and wanted a linux box to do it on09:04
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ksozefigured the ubuntu 'it just works' philosophy was appealing09:04
nate_synd: php web photo gallery09:04
ksozeand thought I'd give it a try as my music box09:04
hondjenate_: I use MIG, works well09:04
ksozeso this is pretty much the primary use I have for this machine09:05
ksozeand as such, I'm willing to jump to get it working :)09:05
thoreauputicksoze: http://jackit.sourceforge.net/docs/faq.php09:05
nate_mig?09:05
hondjehttp://mig.sourceforge.net/09:05
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ksozethoreauputic?: thanks09:05
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thoreauputicksoze: note that jack is also available in the repos with synaptic or apt09:06
thoreauputicksoze: sound is kind of ... interesting on linux ;)09:06
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hondjeaka ugly09:07
DukGalNamuhow do i unpck a rar?09:07
DukGalNamuunpack09:07
KarlosIIDukGalNamu, uhh09:07
hondjeDukGalNamu: apt-get install unrar-nonfree09:07
KarlosIIunrar ??09:07
ksozethoreauputic: how encouraging.  :)09:07
Eighth_hondje: how do you make your thumbnails?09:07
goye2czHas anyone installed Skype? I'm having trouble finding the libqt3c102-mt package.09:07
hornsbyi got skype09:07
hondjeEighth: it uses image magik through a perl script09:07
Eighth_groovy09:07
bob2goye2cz: libqt3-mt09:07
thoreauputicksoze: you'll get the hang of it - you just need to do some research :)09:07
hondjeEighth: yeah, and pretty configurable09:07
Eighth_fairly simple to use?09:08
hondjevery, I can do it09:08
Eighth_:)09:08
goye2czbob2: so I'm looking for the wrong package?09:08
hondjeeasier than setting up wordpress was09:08
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ksozedo I need the jack package, or jack-eq?09:08
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zerokillsanyone know how to disable everything using sound in Ubuntu?09:08
DukGalNamuk thanks09:08
ksozein any case, the ardour folks should make that a dependency09:08
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naliothnight09:09
thoreauputicksoze: I'm inclined to agree09:09
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ksozethoreauputic: so is it jack that I need, or jack-eq?09:09
thoreauputicksoze: although there are other ways I guess (I haven't used ardour009:09
hornsbygoye2cz, yea, were looking at wrong package09:09
ksozeI suppose getting both won't kill me09:09
HappyFoolzerokills: you can easily mute the sound (right-click on the speaker icon, choose mute) -- or did you want something else09:09
dancec0mmandercan someone answer a question?09:10
thoreauputicksoze: jack to start with, or just install both09:10
hondjezerokills: I disable sound events in system -> preferences -> sound09:10
bob2goye2cz: libqt3c102-mt is correct, and it is indeed in ubuntu09:10
ksozeI'll get 'em both09:10
ksozecan't hurt anything09:10
ksoze:)09:10
zerokillsHappyFool: yea, something else09:10
HappyFooldancec0mmander: only if you ask it ;)09:10
thoreauputicksoze: if there are conflicts, apt will tell you anyway09:10
hondjeHappyFool: actually, you just did :)09:10
ksozeyeah09:11
HappyFoolhondje: *aargh*09:11
hondje:)09:11
ksozewel...I'll do jack first09:11
ksozehere goes09:11
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zerokillshondje: Ubuntu accesses the sound device and reserves it for use. i need to figure out how to disable that so i can use sound in Counter Strike09:11
bob2zerokills: pkill esd09:12
goye2czhornsby or bob2: I did this yesterday, and all went well. today, I'm not finding it. Under Applications/system tools/ add-remove programs, I clicked the advanced tab. I got synaptic and looked through the list. I don't see any of those.09:12
bob2goye2cz: ignore that then09:12
hornsbygoye2cz, installing debian package from skype.com works great, did you try that ?09:12
bob2goye2cz: sudo aptitude instll libqt3c102-mt09:12
bob2goye2cz: if that doesn't work, your /etc/apt/sources.list is misconfigured09:12
thoreauputicksoze: to get jack working, you will probably need to do some reading and googling09:12
ksozeheh09:12
ksozeso ubuntu does indeed just work09:12
ksozebut sound apps sure as hell don't  :)09:12
zerokillsbob2: thats it?09:13
hondjesound on linux is a mess of hacks and work arounds09:13
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ksozebummer09:13
thoreauputicksoze: you are using rather advanced stuff with ardour (not many people get into that)09:13
bob2zerokills: I'd be surprised if anything else was using it09:13
goye2czbob2: anything is possible. I did download the .deb package and started following instructions on the ubuntu wiki page. I'll try what you just said though.09:13
bob2sound works fine if you have a decent card09:13
ksozeseems I'd be wise not to bother.  I have other system09:13
bob2ie a sb live09:13
bob2if you have anything else, jist configure dmix and be happy09:13
ksozesound has many definitions09:13
ksozebasic app sound, sure no problem09:14
thoreauputicksoze: it's worth the effort - quite rewarding09:14
ksozeinstalling a multitrak app to work seems like a pain09:14
bob2sweep is very easy to instll09:14
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ksozebob2: not heard of that one.09:14
hornsbygoye2cz,  $sudo dpkg -i  skype***.deb      -> didn't get this done ?09:14
thoreauputicksoze: both sweep and audacity are pretty easy09:15
hondjekso09:15
hondjeksoze: http://www.metadecks.org/software/sweep09:15
zerokillsbob2: k, i hope this works, if it doesnt i have CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE... sigh09:15
ksozeexcept audacity requires I kill esd09:15
goye2czhee hee, linux has a great sense of humor. I LIKE IT.09:15
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hondjezerokills: No you don09:15
ksozeI'm not gonna whine about it, but it is silly09:15
hondjezerokills: just ctrl-alt-f1, and kill your game09:15
bob2zerokills: er, why would you do that?09:15
zerokillshondje: the screen freezes09:15
hornsbygoye2cz, yea linux is funny :)09:15
bob2ksoze: so, setup aumix09:15
bob2er, dmix09:15
thoreauputicksoze: only because esd is a pain - getting dmix workinfg is worth trying09:15
zerokillshondje: really? ill try that this time09:15
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hondjezerokills: that's what I do09:16
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maruko`hey. is there a group( except root )that can install packages ?09:16
ksozeI may09:16
beowu1fanyone using the new dell M70 precision? any good?09:16
ksozeI just need something that works now09:16
thoreauputicbob2 actually the dmix guide on ubuntuguide.org seems OK - what would you recommend?09:16
ksozeI plan on doing some recording with a singer tomorrow :)09:16
bob2thoreauputic: I haven't seen it09:16
hondjethoreauputic: I'm glad to hear that, I actually did follow that one :)09:17
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HappyFoolmaruko`: use 'sudo'09:17
zerokillsbob2: pkill esd did the trick, thanks man09:17
ksozemeanwhile, I guess I'll yank ardour09:17
Eighth_i need some help setting up apache.. i've never worked with a web server09:17
ksozeand jack09:17
Eighth_but i think i should prolly go to bed09:17
zerokillsnow i just gotta figure out why steam isnt bringing up any servers to play on09:17
zerokillsanyone have an idea?09:18
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hornsbyEighth, what do you want to do ?09:18
thoreauputicksoze: yeah, one thing at a time, I suggest - get audacity going09:18
hondjezerokills: iptables?09:18
ksozeso in Synaptic, what's the difference between removal and complete removal?09:18
zerokillshondje: no clue09:18
thoreauputicksoze: sweep is definitely worth a look though09:18
hondjezerokills: worth a check09:18
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ksozethoreauputic: I like that appraoch, and prefer not to have software lying around that I'm not using.09:18
zerokillshondje: how do i check09:19
thoreauputicksoze: "complete" removes the vconfig files as well09:19
ksozeok09:19
ksozeI'll do that09:19
thoreauputic*config09:19
hondjezerokills: sudo /etc/init.d/firestarter stop (if you run it), then sudo iptables -F. Then connect and try09:19
hornsbyEighth, http://ubuntuguide.org/#apachehttpserver09:19
zerokillshondje: k thanks09:19
hondjea recipe for apache sounds like a recipe for a rooting09:19
thoreauputicksoze: if you are into sound, the multiverse repo is pretty much a necessity, too09:20
Madpilotunprintable machine... Muine won't start tonight, and RythymBox just crashed again... :p09:20
zerokillshondje: nope, im gonna have to check up on some Cedega forums09:21
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hondjezerokills: okay...sudo /etc/init.d/firestarter start I guess :) Good luck09:21
zerokillshondje: thanks :)  i know i can play Half-Life 2 now tho09:22
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hondjezerokills: if you're lucky, I oculdnt' get it going09:22
goye2czbob2: well, I tried and nothing has helped me yet. You said " if that doesn't work, your /etc/apt/sources.list is misconfigured". What's left for me to try now?09:22
hondje.5 fps09:22
bob2goye2cz: configuring it properly09:22
bob2goye2cz: paste it to #flood09:22
goye2czEverything was fine on the live cd, but now that I've installed, it's wacky.09:23
bob2right09:23
ksozeso sweep plays nice with esd?09:23
hornsbygoye2cz,  what message do you get when you try $sudo dpkg -i skype ****.deb09:23
ksozethor: noted.  Thanks.09:24
hondjeafter skype, hit tab and bash will spell the rest out for you09:24
goye2czhornsby: wish I could cut and paste from the terminal... just a sec...09:24
HappyFooldon't paste here! ;)09:24
ksozeok, rebooting09:24
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goye2czno such file.09:25
goye2czbasically09:25
bob2wtf09:25
hornsbymaybe you are not in the right directory09:25
goye2czquite possible.09:25
bob2goye2cz: we need to see /etc/apt/sources.list09:25
hornsbyright09:25
HappyFoolgoye2cz: do what bob2 said -- paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood09:25
Revelation*aw*09:25
goye2czI am VERY new to this.09:25
goye2czwill do....09:26
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goye2czhee hee.... where do I find that?09:27
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bob2 /etc/apt/sources.list09:27
hornsby$sudo kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list09:27
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bob2which won't work on ubuntu machines09:27
HappyFooli'm guessing he might not have kwrite ;)09:27
hornsbytrue :)09:28
hornsbygedit :)09:28
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thoreauputicgoye2cz: easy way:  gedit /etc/apt/sources.list,  highlight ,  go to the #flood channel, paste09:28
holycowanyone run myth tv under ubuntu?09:28
holycowjust curious if anyone has had any success?09:28
thoreauputicdo NOT paste in here though!09:28
goye2czI'm guessing I should be typing that in the terminal? It tells me permission denied.09:28
bigbill52ahad to replace a hard drive for a customer...used linux to copy all his windows files from his old computer to an external drive and after installing and formatting the new hard drive..copied the files back...windows started right up...09:28
hondjeeasier, if using xchat, /join #flood, and then /exec -o cat /etc/apt/sources.list09:28
goye2czDON'T WORRY! will not paste here :-)09:29
HappyFoolheh09:29
hornsby$sudo gedit09:29
thoreauputicgoye2cz: yes, try hondje 's way instead09:29
bigbill52alive cd09:29
hondjeyeah, just /join #flood, I got your back :)09:29
goye2czwill do...09:29
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jetscreamer/etc/ in /ramdisk isn't it w/livecd09:30
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bigbill52ayou have to mount the two hard drives09:30
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bigbill52aactually i used the system rescue cd which uses gentoo and did everything from the command line09:31
bigbill52asaved me several hours reinstalling windows..and suffering excessive boredom09:32
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ksozeso anyone use ecasound?09:32
ksozesweep looks alright, but seems to be designed as a DJ tool09:33
IIIEarsHello Ubuntuans! :)09:33
HappyFoolmorning IIIEars09:33
nobile1:33 am here =P09:33
IIIEarsI need a hint on UT99 - It looks and runs perfectly :)09:34
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ksozewhat was the name of that jukebox app again?09:34
ksoze(I was gonna install it and forgot)09:34
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darkanyone havin a prob with breezy reps?09:34
ficusplanetubuntu made it into PC World's 100 best products of the year!09:34
hornsbyficusplanet, heheh, good news09:35
bob2dark: you need to be way more specific09:35
IIIEarsI just can't connect to an online server. The connection is accepted then.. Pause .. pause .. Nothing.. -???09:35
bob2dark: but things being uninstallable in breezy is to be expected09:35
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black13are there people up this hour09:35
ksozeoh yeah there are09:36
bob2black13: it's only 5:30pm here09:36
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black13where is here09:36
hondjegoye2cz: before all those lines that start with deb and deb-src, erase the #09:36
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IIIEarsblack13 - Of course there are. sleep is for people without high speed internet connections. - lol09:36
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darkas in having problems connecting to them or downloading from them in general09:36
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bob2dark: us.archive.ubuntu.com is screwed, it seems09:36
hondjegoye2cz: once you have those removed, sudo apt-get update09:37
black13i stay up late to watch daria09:37
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black13and compile LFS09:37
darkbob2: i see, bad time to upgrade then lol09:37
IIIEarsblack13 - daria?09:37
bob2dark: archive.ubuntu.com should be fine09:37
IIIEarsbob2 - any md5sum errors?09:38
black13daria was cartoon on mtv during the 90s09:38
darkroger, ill try again, thanks09:38
thoreauputicgoye2cz: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list to edit , then save the file09:38
bob2IIIEars: that's a symptom of it, yeah09:38
oliango09:38
oliangsorry i type wrong message09:39
darkthats what i was getting09:39
syndis there any version of gnu/linux that the airport extreme card works with?09:39
darkton of md5 errors09:39
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bob2synd: no09:40
ficusplanetsynd, no09:40
bob2synd: broadcom refuses to document it09:40
syndughughugh09:40
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bob2feel free to email them to ask why not, tho...09:40
bob2maybe enough public pressure will make them change their minds09:40
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syndis there any reverse engineering being done?09:40
bob2yes09:41
goye2czthoreauputic: Thanks for patience (to all actually) but am I to type that last command in this chat session?09:41
jetscreameryes09:41
IIIEarsbob2 - Ogling some new AMD 64 motherboards - some have Broadcom chipsets are all broadcom products M$ addicted?09:41
bob2goye2cz: no, into your terminal09:41
jetscreamergoye2cz: no in console/xterm09:41
hondjeat least RE-ing drivers is the exception09:41
ksozeok, sweep seems a bit silly09:41
ksozeasking me to create a file and set a length up front09:42
bob2IIIEars: the ethernet chipsets work ok with one of two drivers on linux09:42
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bob2IIIEars: wireless ones seem to be the only problems09:42
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filosofis Ubuntu have problem install packages from source ???09:42
IIIEarsbob2 - Thanks09:42
hondjefilosof: No, not at all09:42
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ksozeI'm not gonna bother right now.  ubuntu is way cool.  Linux seems to be a giant PITA for recording.  :)09:42
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gm78filosof : i have compiled tons of things on ubuntu09:42
filosof hondje  i trying install apache (took it from apache.org) but get error while ./configure09:43
gm78filosof : what error?09:43
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filosofchecking for gcc... gcc09:43
filosofchecking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables09:43
filosofSee `config.log' for more details.09:43
filosofconfigure failed for srclib/apr09:43
bob2filosof: that just means you didn't install things correctly09:43
filosofthis one09:43
hondjefilosof: That doesn't mean ubuntu has a problem, that means you need to add more pkgs. :)09:43
bob2filosof: why are you compiling apache?09:43
jetscreamer^^09:43
gm78filosof : ubuntu includes apache. u also dont have a compiler installed. install the package build_essential and try again09:44
filosof bob2  i wanted to try how it's work with ather packages09:44
bob2filosof: I don't understand you09:44
jetscreamerhe meant why don't you just install apache btw09:44
bob2filosof: anyway, if you install the build-essential package, it will get past that09:44
ksozeare there any good irc channels or web communities for sound on linux (and particularly ubuntu)?09:44
black13jebuss, gcc takes forever to compile09:45
thoreauputicksoze: I'm sure there would be channels for audacity - probably on this server09:45
filosofi know ubuntu have apache , but i wanted try install apache from source :-\09:45
hondjeksoze: #alsa09:45
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thoreauputicksoze: probably lots of others here too09:45
gm78black13 : why are you compiling GCC?09:45
xbaxeback09:45
bob2filosof: then do what I said and you can09:46
goye2czdoes the sudo apt-get update generally take a long time?09:46
ksozehondje: tahnks09:46
ksozethoreauputic: thanks also09:46
bob2filosof: bear in mind you're making huge amounts of work for yourself for no reason, tho09:46
black13for LFS09:46
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thoreauputicgoye2cz: only the first time09:46
jetscreamergoye2cz: not usually, sometimes it hangs and i just ctrl+c it and redo09:46
thoreauputicksoze: you're welcome09:46
ksozeone of these days, when I have time, I'll try and get audacity going09:46
hondjewell, I see reasons to roll your own apache, but boredom would be an odd one09:46
jetscreamertimes out09:46
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ksozefor now, I'll just skip recording with linux09:46
filosof bob2  i know :-)) but i new for linux and try play around before i decide09:46
ksozeseems like it needs time to mature09:46
black13gm78, for lfs09:46
xbaxehey guys , is it possible to configure apt-get and use deb sources instead of ubuntu?09:47
bob2xbaxe: yes, but please don'\t09:47
gm78xbaxe : you could try. it isnt recommended tho09:47
syntaxmanfilosof: get the build_essential package and also read the man page for "apt-get"... it can get the sources for you and the dependencies too09:47
thoreauputicksoze: not so much that - but it takes more work than it should perhaps :)09:47
bob2syntaxman: -, not _09:47
xbaxebob2; what wud happen?09:47
bob2xbaxe: things will break in ways yo uwon't be able to fix09:47
ksozethoreauputic: at one level, they're the same thing.  :)09:47
goye2czjetscreamer: I'm converting from using windows for a LONG time. If I get my system hanging what should I do. In win I jsut use ctrl+alt+del.09:48
jetscreameri'll let you know when i get around to it xbaxe09:48
xbaxeah.... why wudnt we?09:48
bob2xbaxe: e.g. you won't be able to install packages from ubuntu, or upgrade to breezy09:48
bigbill52asame if you come the other way09:48
thoreauputicksoze: I know what you mean :)09:48
signiusoooh whats breezy ?09:48
filosof syntaxman  ok , thanks alot, i will try09:48
bob2bluntly, if you have to ask how to configure apt to do it, you're going to have a lot of trouble if someone tells you how09:48
goye2czwhile I wait... never mind, it's done09:48
syndsignius: the new installment of Ubuntu due in a few months09:48
bob2signius: the develpment branch of ubuntu09:48
xbaxebob2 , this is just for fun and coz i needed a system before going to Gentoo customization09:48
jetscreamergoye2cz: what i meant is that sometimes apt-get update will time out for me, i ctrl+c (stop) it and just sudo apt-get update again and it usually works09:48
signiusahhow stable is it at the moment09:48
ksozeany chance ubuntu will make esd play nice?09:48
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hondjesignius: not at all09:49
signiusis it real rough or is it fairly good ?09:49
syntaxmanbob2: oh yeah. build-essential09:49
bob2xbaxe: I don't know what that means09:49
ksozemaybe in the next release? (fingers corssed)09:49
hondjesignius: read the topic :)09:49
bob2signius: not very, /topic09:49
syndksoze: why not use alsa?09:49
xbaxebob2: sorry , my typing is crap09:49
bob2ksoze: it works fine with supported things09:49
zerokillshondje: Half-Life 2 runs flawlessly. sound and video, everything works great09:49
signiusok i will leave well alone for the moment on my laptop then09:49
ksozesynd" ;arge;y because i don't know what it is :)09:49
ksozelargely, even09:49
signiusi only just woke up so if i missed something i applogise09:49
xbaxebob2 : i tried installing Gentoo , and got burned for a bit09:49
TycheI use totem and the w32 codecs. It seems that audio and the picture do not match up...do you know why?09:49
bigbill52ai have strange things happening in kde on ubuntu that i dont have on debian...09:49
hondjezerokills: you win, I lose ;-) I might try it again, then, since I bought it andcan't use it09:49
signiusand be gentle with me i got a fuck off hangover09:49
ksozebob2: is there a list of supported sound recording apps?09:49
thoreauputicksoze: I think dmix is a better option, but I think breezy is using polypaudio09:50
xbaxei had a spare hoary cd and installed ubuntu09:50
bob2ksoze: anything with an ubuntu icon next to it in synaptic09:50
bob2bigbill52a: #kubuntu might know more09:50
ksozeok09:50
IIIEarsgoye2cz - there is a tool you can easily right click and add to the taskbar for hung gui applications. I my desktop is really hung up CTRL+F2 works to get a console.09:50
hondjeTyche: use totem-xine instead of totem-gstreamer09:50
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zerokillshondje: it took a lot of dinking around, but i got it to work. its worth tryin to get it to work09:50
xbaxeso this is for in the middle where i lick my wounds and regroup for another attack09:50
syndksoze: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly09:50
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bigbill52alike if i try to even pick a screen saver (gl), as soon as the cursor touches it the computer locks up...09:50
ksozethoreauputic: dmix meaning the replacement for esd?09:50
benjamin123anyone here have a serial ata hd?09:50
IIIEars!ubotu09:51
ubotuNo idea, IIIEars09:51
jetscreamerhey assuming you can get the breezy live dvd to run ( i can) how would one install it... reboot ?09:51
bob2benjamin123: yes, lots of people do (including me)09:51
bigbill52aglx gears works fine...correct driver installed in both instances..so it must be a bug in kde specific to ubuntu09:51
jetscreameror is there a script09:51
thoreauputicksoze: I've disabled esd and use only dmix with xine, arts sometimes, gstreamer occasionally09:51
ksozesynd: what did you send me to?09:51
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syndksoze: to fix your sound : )09:51
benjamin123bob2, what controller port is your dvd or cd rom installed in, primary or secondary?09:51
ksozeit's not broken09:51
thoreauputicksoze: that URL is aguide to getting dmix working09:51
ksozeI just can't find a good audio app that works with what came out of the box09:51
bob2benjamin123: secondary sata, it seems09:52
ksozealthough bob2 appears to be pointing me toward some09:52
syndksoze: what were you complaining for about esd?09:52
benjamin123oh, its serial ata as well?09:52
ksozesynd: that audacity doesn't work with it09:52
jetscreamerbenjamin123: that's variable by the manufacturer, i've even seen a new one that had the cdrom on hda09:52
ksozeand that's fine09:52
hondjeif esd was great, it wouldn't be getting replaced in gnome 2.12...09:52
thoreauputicksoze: we could argue about whether esd is broken09:52
jetscreamernowadays09:52
ksozeas long as something else does :)09:52
syndoh, i havent been paying much attn09:52
xbaxeGuys , does ubuntu come wit a Java ?09:52
thoreauputicksoze: I personally think esd stinks09:52
ksozemaybe09:52
jetscreamerif you install it09:52
hondjethoreauputic: I tend to agree, BUT...09:53
ksozeI don't know much about it09:53
hondjewhen they replace it with gstreamer, I fear it'll be worse09:53
benjamin123i tried installing ubuntu but ran into problems, it couldnt get certain files of the disc, and i know its a good disc, i tried 2 different copies09:53
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ksozeI'm just trying to follow the "it just works" mentality09:53
holycowguys, what does this mean --> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mailx/mailx_8.1.2-0.20040524cvs-4_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch09:53
AndyRlo all09:53
bob2benjamin123: it's not a "good disk" unless you checked the md5sum09:53
benjamin123i have a sata hd and a dvd plugged into the primary ide controller, not secondary, and it is master09:53
ksozemeaning I am trying to get somethign that works with what is here09:53
bob2holycow: use archive.ubuntu.com09:53
syndksoze: most things "just work" but this aint no OS X : )09:53
ksozeright09:53
holycowbob2, what is the difference?09:53
ksozeso does sound recording not just work?09:53
hondjeOS X doesn't just work either09:53
ksozethat'd save me some time :)09:54
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bob2holycow: one is in the us and doesn't work, one is in the uk and does ;)09:54
syndhondje: mhm09:54
thoreauputicksoze: yes, then you're stuck with killing esd from time to time09:54
Tychehondje: I am.09:54
HappyFoolxbaxe: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java   for installing java09:54
holycowbob2, smartass :)09:54
holycowhehe09:54
hondjeTyche: You are what?09:54
ksozethoreauputic: unless I can find something that works09:54
ksozeI haven't given up yet :)09:54
ksozebut I'm close.  :)09:54
zerokillshondje: you ever gotten Counter Strike: Source to work on Ubuntu?09:54
thoreauputicksoze: which is wwhat dmix appears to do - at least for me09:54
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hondjezerokills: Never tried, last attempted w/ Sid09:54
benjamin123you think i should change the cdrom to secondary ide controller?09:55
zerokillsah09:55
ksozeright, but that sort of blowsa my initial point09:55
goye2czMy system jsut crashed for the third time since I installed ubuntu. since I'm using a different hard drive than I normally do, I suspect hardware faulty, but are there any known issues with ubuntu that could cause it to all of a sudden turn off like someone pulled the power plug?09:55
hondjeNot like that, no09:55
holycowgoye2cz, none that i know of, i've never heard of such a thing09:55
thoreauputicksoze: well, this is open source: it's a work in progress at any given moment :)09:55
Tychehondje: I am using totem-xine and I still have audio and video out of sync.09:55
holycowinfact i think it would be pretty hard to do, linux shutdown is not so simple :)09:55
hondjeTyche: oh, hrm09:55
hondjeTyche: are you playing from hdd or dvd?09:56
goye2czholycow: things are always happening to me that no one has ever heard of. I think it's just me.09:56
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ksozethoreauputic: yeah, but as we've noted, it appears sounds is much less mature than other areas09:56
ksozefor some places, I'll go with that09:56
ksozehell, it's my living to configre and go into guts09:56
geneo93anyone know of any BeOS themes for kubuntu09:56
thoreauputicksoze: fair enough09:56
zerokillsgoye2cz: or your hardware =\09:56
holycowgoye2cz, ehe, i know people like you :)09:56
ksozebut when I get home and plug in my guitar, I just wanna record, you know?09:56
holycowhehe09:56
xbaxehappyfool : thanks09:56
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thoreauputicksoze: sure09:56
hondjegeneo93: kde-look.org09:57
TycheSo far, just clips. Not from dvd or anything, I think they are just windows media files09:57
holycowgoye2cz, what zerokills said, that pretty much sounds like hardware, sometimes its hard to debug without spending cash on replacement parts09:57
hondjeTyche: then I dunno man, that's a bummer09:57
thoreauputicksoze: when you have time though, getting into how it works is kind of interesting09:57
hondjegoye2cz: smartmontools will check up on your hdd's health09:57
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ksozeI may just use the built in shoddy little recorder and an outboard mixer for tomorrow's tracks09:58
goye2czholycow: I would think (although you never know) it should be easy for me to narrow down. I'm using a notebook and it worked fine until I put this spare hdd in it.09:58
ksozethoreauputic: I may.  Depends on how much tinkering I want to do after work.  :)09:58
holycowksoze, what kinda guitar you got?09:58
holycowbob2, thanks bro, that worked :)09:58
benjamin123bob2, im checking the md5sum right now:)09:58
holycowgoye2cz, well then ... :)09:58
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ksozeholycow: I have a pair of guitars built by Ron Thorn in California:09:58
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thoreauputicksoze: well, enjoy the other bits of Ubuntu in the meantime ;)09:59
holycowcustom? l33t09:59
holycow:)09:59
syndanyone fiddle around with LFS?09:59
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ksozehttp://thornguitars.com/09:59
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ksozeyeah, custom09:59
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holycowi have a peavey wolfgang standard, before ed left09:59
goye2czas for my skype issues... I'm installing those updates now.09:59
ksozeholycow: those are nice09:59
goye2czsays 2 minutes left.09:59
ksozehttp://www.thornguitargallery.com/thorns55.htm09:59
ksozeI have numbers 55 and 5609:59
holycowso is the thorn09:59
holycowsweet09:59
ksozethanks09:59
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holycowneato :) yeah i've been meaning to setup some recording stuff too, i played around with stuff but haven't really gotten far10:00
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Seveasus.archive server works again :)10:01
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ksozeit seems rather tricky to get started10:02
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holycowSeveas, well fuckit ... 3 mintues ago it didnt'!10:02
holycow:)10:02
holycowheh10:02
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holycowyou guys fix problems quickly in other words10:02
holycow-_-10:02
Razor-Xallo10:02
Razor-XSeaves: it works?10:02
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hondjealmost had to WORK for money10:02
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Razor-X;)10:03
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holycowhondje, incalls?10:03
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holycow:)10:03
maruko`hey. how do i make a screenshot of my desktop?10:03
hondjeholycow: guarding the fort10:03
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Razor-Xmaruko': Gnome or KDE?10:03
holycowmaruko`, hit print screen button on keyboard10:03
hondjethe normal dude is on vacation, so I'm enjoying his slacking10:03
maruko`XFCE10:03
zerokillsahaha, my brother is so drunk he passed out on his bedroom floor10:03
holycowor use gimp ... file / acquire / ...10:04
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Razor-Xmaruko`: ok then ;)10:04
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Razor-Xnot sure, google it10:04
Kartagishello10:04
ksozeso...favortie jukebox apps, folks?10:04
holycowmaruko`, *ummm* heh :) ya what he said -->google10:04
ksozefigure I'll check a few out10:04
hondjerhythmbox10:04
maruko`hehee10:04
maruko`ok10:04
holycowksoze, beep10:04
ksozenow that I've abandoned home recording on this thing.  :)10:04
maruko`xfce screenshot ?10:04
Kartagishow do I remove a package that has dependencies?10:04
maruko`i think that will search for screenshots of xfce desktops...10:05
bob2Kartagis: how do you mean?10:05
holycowKartagis, it doesn't matter, just apt-get remove --purge package10:05
maruko`what should be the search string that i would use?10:05
SeveasKartagis, with debfoster you can remova all unneeded dependencies10:05
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maruko`nah nvm.10:06
maruko`holycow or use gimp ... file / acquire / ... <-- this works. thanks10:06
holycowno worries10:06
Kartagisbob2: http://www.kunduz.org/apt.txt10:06
KarlosIIanyone have the linux UT2004 SAS MOD?10:06
maruko`hey glxgears is blank on my system. but the FPS is written on the xterm window10:06
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maruko`every open gl app is blank10:07
holycowhttp://www.slash32.com/ubuntu-myth.html  <-- jesus f christ, myth tv is a lot of frickin work :)10:07
holycowehe10:07
bob2Kartagis: so, you need to fix that10:07
maruko`and.. fluxbox's menu is soooooooooooooo small10:07
bob2Kartagis: 'sudo apt-get -f install' will probably fix it10:07
KartagisI get the same error when I do --purge10:07
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maruko`the width of the menu is the same as the cursor's width.10:08
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bob2Kartagis: apt isn't going to work until you fix that10:08
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ksozeok, bedtime for me10:09
ksoze'night folks, and thanks for the assists.10:09
thoreauputicksoze: see you :)10:09
ksozesee you later :)10:09
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holycowwhat, you mean windows?10:09
holycow>_<10:09
KarlosIIhttp://www.sas.jolt.co.uk/index.php?page=download.php&action=open&id=61010:09
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KarlosIIanyone have it?10:10
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KarlosIII need to get it10:10
Kartagisbob2: I still get the same error after I do apy-get -f install10:10
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bob2Kartagis: so, fix the mess10:10
holycowwhat is sas?10:10
bob2Kartagis: sudo pt-get install phpmyadmin10:10
bob2I'm not sure how that got broken to begin with10:10
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thoreauputicholycow: Special Air Services ? >_<10:11
holycowthoreauputic, strangely enough i just farted10:11
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holycowon that note, time to get a drink :)10:11
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syndtime for a cigarette10:11
goye2czwhile installing updates, my system shut off. What would you do first?10:11
bob2check the power cord10:12
bob2then check how hot it is10:12
thoreauputicgoye2cz: sounds like you need a new system...10:12
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goye2czthoreauputic: safe bet.10:13
syndif it was a power outage, id get an APC if i were you10:13
benjamin123anyone here recommend any fonts packages from synaptic?10:13
psychonateAnyone ever make a PVR?10:13
syndat least give you enough time to safely stop the update and shutdown10:13
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jetscreamerholycow: no i just meant 'The One That Suits You Best'10:14
goye2czdoesn't seem to be any hotter than usuall, the battery is in, the charger is functioning.10:14
bob2goye2cz: what sort of machine is it?10:14
holycowlol i found mine long ago, debian for servers/desktop, ubuntu for desktops for latest packages10:14
goye2czdell inspiron 2500 notebook10:14
holycowi'm still amazed to realize that mark shuttleworth got it exactly right imho10:15
holycowsay in comparison to linspire or xandros10:15
hondjeyeah, I just hope he can pull a profit10:15
hondjeif they can infiltrate the office, they'll be set, rico support contracts10:16
Kartagisbob2: thanks, I fixed it10:16
Kartagisbbl10:16
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holycowwell he has a pretty good track record10:16
hondjeyeah, and he's been to space10:16
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hondjethat gives him a +1 modifier to all rolls10:16
holycowi can tell you that after we switch we will be subscribing to support, nothing huge but it is important to have support avialable10:16
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hondje'we'?10:17
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Choubaka"Buy Ubuntu support!" "Why?" "It rocks!" "Anything else?" "Mark Shuttleworth started it, and he's been to SPACE!" "Deal."10:17
holycowyeah most of our workstations are going linux10:17
hondjeChoubaka: See, it's a shoe-in :)10:18
hondjeah, cool10:18
holycowlol, you wouldn't believe how many people would sign off just on that :)10:18
Kamping_Kaiserlol10:18
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ws006halo10:22
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errrhow do I get the 'location' bar to show in nautilus?10:24
pulaskiexit10:24
hondjelol10:24
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thoreauputicerrr: ctrl + L10:25
errrin the older versions it was under view10:25
errrthoreauputic: I want it always there.10:25
thoreauputicerrr: oh OK - well I only use "browser mode" ( actually I prefer rox filer anyway )10:26
errrnot I10:26
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errrI hate when things like that get moved/changed10:26
thoreauputicerrr: agreed10:26
errrit almost goes against HIG to me10:27
IIIEarsI just can't connect to an online server. The connection is accepted then.. Pause .. pause .. Nothing.. -???10:27
IIIEarsI need a hint on UT99 - It looks and runs perfectly :)10:27
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thoreauputicerrr: well, i tend to agree - but I use terminal or rox 99% of the time so...10:27
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IIIEarsthinking symlink needed somewhere for downloaded maps10:28
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goye2czI think I'm to the last step in installing skype... how do I chnage to the directory I downloaded skype?10:29
IIIEarspermissions changed?10:29
thoreauputicgoye2cz: cd /path/to/directory10:29
IIIEarscd ~/skype.file  ?10:30
tronzaErm, I was trying to install Ubuntu from Distribution CD but during first steps of installation there's one "error" and it says that "insert CD, insert CD..." "not mounted blablabla".. What should I do ?10:30
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parabolizerun a md5sum.10:31
tronzaWhat the heck is that ? :P10:31
goye2czwell, it's on my desktop and I'm unfamiliar with linux syntax10:31
parabolizehold on10:32
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hornsbygoye2cz,  to what directory did you download skype ?10:32
parabolizehttp://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/MD5SUMS10:32
goye2czdesktop10:32
thoreauputicgoye2cz: cd ~/Desktop10:33
thoreauputicnote capital D10:33
hornsbygoye2cz, right10:33
thoreauputicassuming this is gnome...10:33
hornsbyKDE : $cd $HOME/Desktop10:34
goye2czno such file or directory. :-/10:34
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hornsbygoye2cz, do : $cd10:34
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hornsbygoldfish, then #cd $HOME/Desktop10:35
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hornsbygoye2cz, :)10:35
goye2czhornsby: nothing seemed to happen10:35
thoreauputicgoye2cz:  pwd says what?10:35
goye2czno prob. if it's easier to spell, hey.10:35
hornsbyare you now in $HOME/Desktop10:36
hornsby?10:36
goye2czwe're talkign about terminal right?10:36
hornsbyright10:36
thoreauputicyes10:36
IIIEarsThanks Guys Good Night! To a newb every command is novel and interesting. What does this do? Ubuntu:$ halt  <Enter> ....10:36
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goye2czhornsby: no.10:37
Kamping_KaiserRSoD... doesnt real do it :S10:37
hornsbythen type : cd && cd /home/$Home/Desktop10:37
goye2czI'm in home/goye2cz #10:37
hornsbyassuming KDE10:37
hornsbyok then cd Desktop10:37
goye2czhornsby: I don't know how to tellt he diff.10:38
goye2czBOOM. there it is10:38
goye2czso would that be Gnome?10:38
thoreauputicgoye2cz: the command `pwd` tells you which dir you are in10:38
hornsby$HOME = /home/goy2cz10:38
goye2czthe command "cd Destop" did it.10:38
hornsbyyour desktop is in /home/goy2cz/Desktop10:39
goye2czyes10:39
hornsbyso go there10:39
hornsby:)10:39
goye2czgot it.10:39
hornsbygood10:39
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goye2czHAHA! it seems to be workign.10:40
hornsbyhehe ;)10:40
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hornsbyyou did sudo dpkg -i skype{version}.deb ? right ?10:41
goye2cznow, do I have to leave that .deb file on my desktop?10:41
goye2czyes10:41
hornsbyno10:41
hornsbyyou can move it10:41
goye2czcool. .... move but not delete?10:42
hornsbyis skype running now ?10:42
goye2czyes10:42
hornsbydelete is ok to10:42
hornsbyup to you10:42
goye2czwonderful.10:42
goye2czjust making sure. I'm not yet familiar with the ways of linux.10:42
hornsbysure10:42
hornsbyeverybody had to start once10:43
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goye2czso is there anywhere I can find a list of keyboard shortcuts for linux... er... ubuntu?10:43
hornsbyto make sure, there are some conflict with skype and the sound, so when you start skype, it's better if no other sound application are running10:43
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hornsbyat least it is so with KDE10:44
hornsbydunno about gnome10:44
Turoqhmm is there any development studio or something for gnome cause its stupid do use tabs in gedit10:44
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Turoqsomething like visualc++ or devc++ on windows10:44
Turoqsomething like that10:44
Guerinemacs10:44
thoreauputicTuroq: yu can try anjuta10:44
thoreauputic*you10:45
Turoqhmm wait i chechk10:45
goye2czis gnome or kde better for a beginner... or does it matter?10:45
hornsbymatter of taste10:45
thoreauputicgoye2cz: matter of taste really10:45
parabolizelook in kde control center I think you can see/edit the hotkeys somewhere in there.10:45
Turoqahh anjuta looks good10:45
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thoreauputichornsby: great minds... *G*10:45
hornsbygoye2cz, you use KDE or gnole ?10:45
Turoqi'll get it10:46
hornsbythoreauputic, I ue KDE :)10:46
syntaxmangnole?  sounds like pasta :)10:46
zerokillshondje: im tearin it up on DOD10:46
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thoreauputichornsby: I use fluxbox ;)10:46
goye2czhornsby: I'm a shameless newbie. I have no idea.10:46
hornsbynever tried :)10:46
hornsbygoye2cz, we allhae been newbies once :)10:47
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parabolizedid you install ubuntu or kubuntu?10:47
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Turoqi have newest ati drivers, ati radeon mobility 9700 but quake3 is so laggy and i dont know why, if someone could help me msg me10:47
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cleethe Firefox prerm script is broken10:47
goye2czI'm using ubuntu... just did the default install for all I know.10:48
thoreauputicgoye2cz: in that case you have gnome10:48
parabolizegnome10:48
goldfishthoreauputic: flux is cool.10:48
hornsby;)10:48
cleefind /var/lib/mozilla-firefox/ -type d -depth -empty -exec rmdir {} \;10:48
thoreauputicgoldfish: indeed10:48
clee-depth requires a depth :)10:48
goye2czalright, the wee-man.10:48
syndfluxbox intimidates me10:48
syndim learing with damnsmall though10:48
thoreauputicsynd: lots of good docs on http://fluxbox.org10:49
syndi shall check that out10:49
syndanyone use e17 ?10:49
thoreauputicnot yet10:50
syndis it possible?10:50
parabolizegoye2cz,  type gnome-keybinding-properties in a terminal.10:50
thoreauputice16 is kinda pretty but I wouldn't want to live there10:50
syndunderstandable10:50
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goye2czso I guess the linux version of skype doesn't have the de-centralized contact list eh?10:50
hornsbyright10:51
thoreauputicsynd: there are a few packages for e17 floating around (16.9 actually)10:51
goye2czcripes10:51
thoreauputicsynd: ivoks packaged some for testing I think10:51
hornsbymight be a way to centralize but I havent look for that10:51
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syndthoreauputic: i see10:52
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hondjehttp://nooms.de/misc/e17install.sh10:52
hondjedownloads e17 from cvs and builds it10:53
thoreauputichondje: have you tried it?10:53
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hondjeno, but I plan to....a guy I know did on sid, it worked fine10:54
thoreauputichmm - interesting ...10:54
hondjejust have fakeroot and dpkg-buildpackage installed, and of course req. e17 libs10:54
hondjeback to work goes I10:54
goye2czThanks to all. You rock the party.10:56
goye2czTime for me to get back to goofing off.10:56
beep_grCan someone help me for the network?10:57
ws006ha10:57
beep_grI have dial-up connection and the connection in very slow10:58
beep_gris there any tip to see the Bps?10:58
tahorgbeep_gr: apt-get install nload && nload -i 56 -o 56 ppp010:59
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martinjh99Morning all.  How do I play mp3s in Gnome?10:59
thoreauputictahorg: what does that do?11:00
tahorgthoreauputic: try it. That won't eat your dog, I promise11:00
beep_grtahorg: can you give me istructions because I am new on Linux especialy on ubuntu11:00
tombsmartinjh99, did you try xmms ?11:00
thoreauputicmartinjh99: install gstreamer0.8-mad and use rhythmbox (music player) or install xmms or beep-media-player11:00
Kamping_Kaisermartinjh99, have installed the codecs?11:00
tahorgbeep_gr: ok, try the network applet then11:01
martinjh99Thanks guys - trying that now...11:01
thoreauputictahorg: heh - I'm just curious - I'll have a look at apt-cache show nload11:01
parabolizehttp://www.ubuntuguide.org/#installgnump3d11:02
tahorgthoreauputic: nload is a text mode bandwith viewer11:02
Guerinmmmm, yummay dog11:02
tahorgthoreauputic: really usefull11:02
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thoreauputicright - so I'm reading :)11:02
martinjh99OK - installed gstreame0.8-mad and beep  load up a mp3 from cd and beep hangs ;)11:03
thoreauputicmartinjh99: select the esd output plugin11:04
thoreauputicin beep11:04
martinjh99Am new to using Gnome - Used to KDE...11:04
Turoqhmm what i have missing: configure: creating ./config.status config.status: error: cannot find input file: Makefile.in Auto generation completed......unsuccessful11:04
Turoqwhen i try to create new project in anjuta11:04
Turoqjust a normal terminal project11:04
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martinjh99Thoreauputic is that the Esound Outplugin in Beep?11:05
thoreauputictahorg: hmm - cute11:05
thoreauputicmartinjh99: yep11:05
martinjh99Sorted thanks guys... :)11:06
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thoreauputicTuroq: I'm guessing install build-essential11:06
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dancec0mmandercan someone help me with a stupid n00b question?11:06
Turoqi have em already11:06
thoreauputicdancec0mmander: of course not ;-)11:06
parabolizeask it11:06
thoreauputicdancec0mmander: just ask :)11:07
dancec0mmanderok i just installed ubuntu and i'm trying to get the internet connection working11:07
dancec0mmanderit actually does load things just incredibly slowly11:07
dancec0mmanderi have a cable modem connection with a dynamic IP11:07
Kamping_Kaiseris this the right url for the Ubuntu repos?11:07
Kamping_Kaiserdeb http://archive.Ubuntu.com/Ubuntu breezy universe11:08
Kamping_Kaiserdeb-src http://archive.Ubuntu.com/Ubuntu breezy universe11:08
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dancec0mmanderi tried downloading some files and the speeds i was getting was incredibly slow, so its not just firefox loading web sites11:08
crimsunKamping_Kaiser: use CC.archive.ubuntu.com11:08
crimsunKamping_Kaiser: where CC is your iso country code11:09
Kamping_Kaiseri thought we were supposed to avoid them for the time being?11:09
crimsunnormally you'd use CC.archive11:09
Kamping_Kaiserits just my ISPs mirrors of Universe are corrupted, so i thought i should go to the top11:09
parabolizedancec0mmander: is it still fast in whatever OS you were using?11:09
dancec0mmanderwell XP is no longer on that machine11:10
goye2czI am familiar with the windows based N-track Studio for multi-track recording and I use a Tascam US-122. Can anyone recommend some kind of multi-track studio I can use with ubuntu?11:10
dancec0mmanderbut right before I installed it the connection was running fine11:10
crimsungoye2cz: ardour11:10
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dancec0mmanderi DL/d the ISOs for both the liveCD and install on bittorrent in about an hour for each11:10
crimsuninstallable from universe, of course11:10
spiralhi11:10
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eleusishello11:11
parabolizedancec0mmander: no idea. :(11:11
heatxsinkhi all i'm using hoary11:11
Kamping_Kaiserhi spiral11:11
dancec0mmanderi guess i could put XP back on but i'd really rather not11:11
heatxsinkand I think I jacked up my /etc/apt/sources.list file11:11
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dancec0mmanderoh well11:12
dancec0mmanderthanks anyway11:12
parabolizedancec0mmander: got any other computers?11:12
parabolizeon the net that is11:12
Kamping_Kaiserheatxsink. you want a new one?11:12
dancec0mmandernot at home11:12
thoreauputicdancec0mmander: I think you need to be a bit more specific to get any help11:12
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dancec0mmanderwhat else do you need to know?11:12
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parabolizewhats your nic11:13
goye2czcrimsun: ardour sounds pretty nice. do you use it?11:13
dancec0mmanderi don't know off the top of my head11:13
crimsungoye2cz: I've used it a couple years back11:13
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dancec0mmanderi guess i should have written this stuff down, i'm not at home at the moment11:13
goye2czcrimsun: any cons?11:14
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ws010hai11:14
crimsungoye2cz: it can be a bit of an adjustment. Try it out.11:14
ws010????11:14
goye2czcrimsun: will do.11:15
zerokillshai11:15
ws010asl11:15
crimsunws010: this isn't the proper channel for such tactics11:15
zerokillshaha11:15
zerokillsstrange11:15
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spikeHi11:16
parabolizehello11:16
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zerokillshello11:16
spikeI have a little problem with ubuntu, can someone help me please?11:16
xabbu|Why does my system opens .run files in gedit?11:16
zerokillsspike: whats the problem?11:16
spikeI can't see the windows partitions from ubuntu, how to?11:16
Kamping_Kaiserubuntuguide.org11:17
thoreauputicxabbu|: it sees them as scripts and thinks you want to edit them?11:17
thoreauputicxabbu|: what kind of ".run" files?11:17
zerokillsspike: id check ubuntuguide.org if i were you11:17
xabbu|thoreauputic, How do I make it stop that?11:17
parabolizespike: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs11:17
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xabbu|Atm its the install file for planeShift...11:18
thoreauputicxabbu|: what do you want to do with the file?11:18
thoreauputicah I see11:18
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xabbu|Its 160 mb.. its no fun open it i gedit...11:18
spikethnx people!11:18
thoreauputicxabbu|: in that case you wan to run it from a terminal I expect11:18
xabbu|okey11:18
zerokillssigh... im downloading at 47 kB/s11:18
thoreauputicxabbu|:  ./foo.run11:18
synd11:19
thoreauputicor sh foo.run11:19
crimsunzerokills: 47 is still greater than 011:19
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gm78Hey all. is anyone else having trouble install libimlib2 right now. i am getting an md5sum mismatch11:19
zerokillscrimsun: true, but i expect better out of cable11:19
zerokillsnow its 15711:20
thoreauputicheh I'd be over the moon if I got 47....11:21
xabbu|wtf, seems like firefox didn't save the file where it was suppoesed to.. Where does FF store things temporarily?11:21
spikeparabolize: when I intent to mount the ntfs volums, I get this "mount: special device /dev/hda1 does not exist11:21
spike"11:21
zerokillsdesktop?11:21
jetscreamergm78: might be the us vs uk in the sources.list, or so i heard, but i know nothing (us is borked?)11:21
thoreauputicxabbu|: what is the d/l dir set in the prefs?11:21
spikeo_o11:21
xabbu|the Desktop.11:21
jetscreamerxabbu|: yeah11:21
xabbu|But the file is not there.11:22
gm78jetscreamer : is there any way i could fix this?11:22
parabolizespike: tp://www.ubuntuguide.org/#listpartitiontables what do you see?11:22
jetscreamergm78: i know nothing, first of all. but i saw somebody say that the uk sources aren't borked.11:22
jetscreamerchanged us to uk in /etc/apt/sources.list && apt-get update11:22
jetscreamers/changed/change/11:23
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goldfishhmmmm11:23
xabbu|Worked when wgeting it.11:23
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jetscreamerxabbu|: does ls ~/Desktop find it?11:24
goye2czcrimsun: I'm at the download page "http://ardour.org/download.php" but for the life of me I can't figure out how to download it. It talks about debian but has no link.11:24
parabolizexabbu|: you can right click save as in firefix11:24
parabolize*firefox11:24
jetscreameryou could open the ff d/l manager and hit show location, unless that's just in moz11:25
thoreauputicgoye2cz: that's not how you install stuff in Ubuntu or Debian11:25
crimsungoye2cz: above I mentioned that ardour is available in the universe repository.11:25
thoreauputicgoye2cz: you use apt or synaptic11:25
xabbu|jetscreamer, nope...11:25
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xabbu|But Im using wget now.11:25
goye2czcrimsun: ok, I'll give her a try.11:26
hondjegoye2cz: it takes a bit of time to get used to, but once you do you'll hate using anything else11:26
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upgrdmananyone have expierenve with WAP wifi and ubuntu... i know what it only works sometimes but dont know how to fix it11:27
thoreauputicgoye2cz: you remember you edited your sources? Now just reload and use synaptic11:27
thoreauputic...or apt11:27
goye2czthoreauputic: reload and use synaptic? I just opened... or started synaptic and am looking for.... I guess something about ardour?11:28
thoreauputicuse the search, Luke11:28
spikeparabolize: at first, I can see all partitios of the 2 hd, but when I try to access with nautilus get an error " Nautilus hasn't installed the correct visor"11:28
goye2czhee hee.11:28
thoreauputicand yes, search for ardour :)11:28
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goye2czI'm guessing I should install all I find?11:29
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ImsdleGRRRR :( when i go to the networking setup and try and save my dail up modem settings they don't damn well save!!!!!! how can i access these via terminal11:29
thoreauputicgoye2cz: umm.... probably not11:29
thoreauputicgoye2cz: something like ardour-gtk i think, from memory11:30
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hellraiser_robmorning folks, can anyone give me any pointers to get enemy territory running?11:30
xabbu|How did I run a .run file? ./ didn't work...11:30
goye2czgot it.11:31
xabbu|I tried sudo also11:31
thoreauputicgoye2cz: you will need `jack` as well11:31
heatxsinkKamping_Kaiser: yes11:31
heatxsinkKamping_Kaiser: please!11:31
zerokillshellraiser_rob: you need Cedega to play games in Linux11:31
heatxsinkKamping_Kaiser: I was trying to get universe going11:31
hellraiser_roberrm enemy territory is cross platform mate11:31
thoreauputicxabbu|: either chmod +x the file, or try ` sh foo.run `11:31
heatxsinkbut I can search the repo's but when I do a apt-get install11:31
heatxsinkit bombs11:31
hondjehellraiser_rob: what's the problem?11:31
i3dmasterxabbu|:sh x.sh11:32
xabbu|Okey11:32
hellraiser_robjust hangs on startup11:32
Kamping_Kaiserheatxsink back11:32
hellraiser_robtux racer runs ok11:32
zerokillshellraiser_rob: heh, sounded like a game11:32
heatxsinkKamping_Kaiser: k11:32
hondjehellraiser_rob: start it from a console, any errors?11:32
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hellraiser_robhold on...11:32
Kamping_Kaiserheatxsink, does "apt-get update" produce errors?11:32
goye2czthoreaputic: processing.... :-)11:32
xabbu|thoreauputic, i3dmaster, Thanks...11:32
thoreauputicxabbu|: np11:33
hellraiser_robha ha11:33
hellraiser_robits done it again11:33
goye2czthoreaputic: my clicker finger is getting cramped though11:33
hellraiser_robhow can i restart x from command guys?11:33
heatxsinkoops11:33
heatxsinkhaha11:33
hondjehellraiser_rob: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart11:33
heatxsinkI never did a apt-get update11:33
heatxsinkduh11:33
heatxsinkKamping_Kaiser: can I msg you?11:34
Kamping_Kaisersure11:34
hondjehellraiser_rob: what errors did you get from running ET in a console?11:34
hellraiser_robi can't tell, i'm kind of stuck in limbo here, it hangs the app on the very top layer11:34
hondjehellraiser_rob: hrm11:35
hellraiser_robbut i move the screen about using that virtual screen size thing11:35
hondjehellraiser_rob: ctrl-alt-f1 and login, then run 'pkill -9 et'11:35
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hondjethen ctrl-alt-f7 back to x11:35
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Mezor alt+f7 works to gert X back (from a tty rather than x no need for ctrl button)11:36
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goye2czI ran my notebook only on the battery until the battery almost ran out and had no more power interruption problems. Now I'm pluggedin and charging the battery. I wonder fi the charger was making something too hot?11:36
goye2cznever had that problem with windows. strange indeed.11:37
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goye2czok, synaptic finished doing it's thing, is there another step for installing ardour?11:38
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hellraiser_robback, had to kill gdm and restart it :911:38
hellraiser_robis there a log so i can see what was printed in the console?11:39
hondjenope :)11:39
hellraiser_robgash11:39
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hellraiser_robthat surprises me11:39
thoreauputicgoye2cz: try typing ` ardour` in a termianl to run it11:40
thoreauputic*terminal11:40
hondjehellraiser_rob: I was just looking for ways to capture it11:40
hondjectrl-alt-f1, then pkill -9 et.x, then ctrl-alt-f7 should bring you back and you can see the output11:40
hellraiser_robany luck?11:40
hellraiser_robok i'll have to write that down and try again11:41
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hellraiser_robha ha11:41
nxv__hi, where do i setup my timezone? my kde time is according to my local time, my system time isn't11:41
hondjethen change resolution in system -> preferences -> screen resolution, then put it back11:41
thoreauputicnxv__: you're dual booting right?11:41
goye2czthoreaputic: there it is... so installing jack, I searched in synaptic and there are lots of different possibilities...11:41
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hellraiser_robok i'll going to try agsin11:42
hondjeunless there's a way to launch it from console w/ $DISPLAY11:42
thoreauputicgoye2cz: you want the jack server daemon11:42
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thoreauputicgoye2cz: jackd in other words, sorry11:43
goye2czok11:43
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thoreauputicgoye2cz: but configuring ardour is beyond my experience (in fact I haven't used it)11:44
nxv__thoreauputic: what do u mean with dual boot, i have ubuntu parallel to my wintendo if that's what u mean11:45
hellraiser_roberr that big black block is still covering most of my screen11:45
thoreauputicgoye2cz: if crimsun is around he may be able to help11:45
thoreauputicnxv__: yes. Run ` sudo base-config` and when it asks about GMT /UTC  change to the other option11:46
thoreauputicthe one that isn't highlighted11:46
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thoreauputicthen just accept the other defaults as they are already11:46
hellraiser_robok11:47
hellraiser_robi can get to some of the console output11:47
goye2czthoreaputic: alright. right now though, I'm having problems with jack. It was already installed, I re-installed it, and ardour still says jack wont' go.11:47
hellraiser_robnone of its that revealing11:47
hondjewow, shit11:47
hondjeI just crashed this thing hard11:47
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goye2czI did shut down skype first.11:47
hellraiser_roboh hold on11:47
hondjedidn't save my work, damn it11:47
nxv__thoreauputic: thx for your fast reply11:47
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thoreauputicgoye2cz: at this point you need to read the manual for jack ;)11:48
hellraiser_robthe last thing it does before hanging is -------- sound initilization --------11:48
goye2czalright11:48
thoreauputicgoye2cz:  man jack I think11:48
hondjehellraiser_rob: killall esd, and try again11:48
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hellraiser_robok11:48
thoreauputicgoye2cz: good luck !11:48
iNDRihello i need help pls11:48
parabolizeHas anyone got doom3 to run with the 7664 Nvidia drivers in Hoary? I need to use the 7664 version because I got a GF6200.11:48
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hondjeparabolize: did you run into a problem?11:49
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martinjh99How do I change what program Gnome uses to open a file?  Need to change mp3's to xmms.11:49
thoreauputicgoye2cz: sorry - man jackd11:49
parabolizeyes11:49
iNDRii have the ubuntu live cd and for the network configuration is giving me a password somone knows how to get that pass ?11:49
parabolizelibc6 is to old I think11:49
hondjeparabolize: hrm, not at home so I can't check it11:50
keffoanyone got GTA San Andreas working under linux yet?11:50
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ChoubakaHmm.11:50
hondjeJun 11 03:42:53 localhost kernel: NVRM: Xid: 12, COCOD 00000000 00000000 00000030 00000224 00000000 ....naughty nvidia11:51
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martinjh99How do I change what program Gnome uses to open a file?  Need to change mp3's to xmms.11:52
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ilucivhi whats the command to find out which kerenl you have installed11:52
hellraiser_robkillall esd worked!11:52
goldfishmartinjh99: open nautilus, right click on an .ms should see an open with setting...11:53
goye2czcrimsun: you still in here? could you help more rwith ardour?11:53
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hondjeiluciv: uname -r11:53
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goldfishmartinjh99: *.mp311:53
hondjehellraiser_rob: good deal :)11:53
hellraiser_robthe game runs now, with sound! what does this mean?11:53
ilucivhondje: cheers11:53
hellraiser_robhondje: your a legend11:53
hondjehellraiser_rob: that it was waiting for esd to free up the sound11:53
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hondjehellraiser_rob: I suffered a sudden crash on the scale of a bsod for you ;-)11:53
ChoubakaI wonder if it would be possible to have soikko (semi-proper Finnish spell-checking mainly for openoffice) in multiverse for Breezy (soikko is non-free though)11:54
hellraiser_robhondje: sorry what happened?11:54
martinjh99GOldfish> I want to change it so it works when I double click it rather than having to right click it11:54
hondjejust future note: do not export DISPLAY=:0 and then run et in a console :)11:54
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hondjehellraiser_rob: doing that caused mayhem in the nvidia card, wish it kept logs :D11:54
hellraiser_robhondje: whats the solution to stop the hanging in the future?11:54
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konradhello, I have a problem with nvidia drivers from nvidia.com (installer) and from DEBs now too :/11:55
hellraiser_robhondje: whoops, sorry ;)11:55
konradin Xorg.log says that GLX extention can't be loaded11:55
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hondjehellraiser_rob: easy that11:55
parabolizekonrad what version11:55
Kamping_Kaiserkonrad remove glx... i think its safe11:55
hondjehellraiser_rob: open a terminal, type 'file `which et`'11:55
hondjeusing ` marks but not the 's11:55
konradKamping_Kaiser: I need 3D acceleration11:56
Kamping_Kaiserthe nvidia driver provides it11:56
Kamping_Kaiseri thought11:56
konradparabolize: 7174 from DEBs11:56
hellraiser_rob/usr/local/bin/et: symbolic link to `/usr/local/games/enemy-territory/et'11:56
mlambiewhat tools exist to stress test a machine? I have three new Ubuntu servers here on my floor waiting to go into the racks next week, and i want to hurt them before we install them.11:56
hondjehellraiser_rob: okay, now sudo gedit /usr/local/games/enemy-territory/et11:57
parabolizekonrad you uninstall the one you got from nv before you tried the deb again?11:57
Kamping_Kaisera deb?11:57
hondjehellraiser_rob: on the fourth line, hit enter to make a space and put in killall esd11:57
konradparabolize: of course11:57
Kamping_Kaiseri thought nvidia only did .run11:57
parabolizekonrad: no idea then11:58
hellraiser_robjust below the 3 comments?11:58
hondjehellraiser_rob: yes, and above the cd11:58
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hondjehellraiser_rob: then save it, and you're good to go11:58
konradKamping_Kaiser: I had drivers from DEB, then wanted nvidia.com's newer version, but it didn't work11:58
Coilywhat's the website for copying long text to?11:58
hellraiser_robhondje: your a legend11:58
hondjethanks, hellraiser_rob11:58
Coilyand making a link available to others11:58
Kamping_Kaiserkonrad, did you edit xorg.conf by hand or with dpkg-reconfigure?11:58
hellraiser_robthis ubuntu stuff isn't that bad when you have gurus to help you out ;)11:58
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thoreauputicCoily: try pastebin.com11:58
TobiasFarhi11:58
hondjeoh, I'm no guru at all11:59
Coilythoreauputic thats it! thanks11:59
thoreauputic:)11:59
hellraiser_robshall i move onto my next problem now? hehe11:59
TobiasFaris there a way to get also write access to a mounted ntfs partition?11:59
hondje:) sure, I got a few before work beckons11:59
SeveasTobiasFar, google for captive ntfs11:59
konradKamping_Kaiser: yes, of course - it is not my fault, because I had wortking DEB's drivers befoure Itried to install nvidia.com's release11:59
hellraiser_robi can't get anyplugins working for mozilla11:59
hondjewhat's so hard about nvidia's release? :-/11:59
hellraiser_rob(video plugins)12:00
hellraiser_robcould well be to do with the sound setting s again?12:00
Kamping_Kaiserkonrad, i was just wondering if "nv" had been replaced with "nvidia"12:00
konradhondje: don't work - sanity error12:00
hondjekonrad: odd, you had kernle headers and source?12:00
hondjehellraiser_rob: sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer ?12:00
Seveashondje, you don;t need kernel source :)12:00
hellraiser_robyeah i got that12:01
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konradKamping_Kaiser: everything is OK, I have been installig nvidia drivers meny times12:01
Kamping_Kaiserseveas, you need the headers12:01
hellraiser_robloads a random amount of movie, then stops12:01
SeveasKamping_Kaiser, i know12:01
Seveasbut not the sourrce :12:01
Kamping_Kaiser:)12:01
hondjeSeveas: it's nice to have though, and I think you need it for --add-this-kernel12:01
Kamping_Kaiserno, not as such12:01
GULZADINHow long does Shipit take to ship the CD's ?12:01
konradhondje: I have everything12:01
Kamping_Kaisergulzaidin, long time12:01
hondjehellraiser_rob: w32codecs too?12:01
GULZADINKamping_Kaiser: Approximately?12:01
Kamping_Kaiserkonrad, are you using breezy or hoary12:02
hondjekonrad: try it with the --add-this-kernel switch12:02
hellraiser_robhondje: yup12:02
konradhondje: just removed DEBs, tried nvidia-installer and fall back to DEB's12:02
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konradKamping_Kaiser: hoary12:02
Kamping_Kaisergulzaidin, well i am still waiting for Hoary cds, and i preordered. i got my wartys in about 3 months12:02
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GULZADINwoaa!12:03
GULZADINlong time eh12:03
konradhondje: I'll send you Error message which nvidia-installer provide - very strange on DCC12:03
hondjekonrad: sure12:03
Kamping_Kaiseroh yeh12:03
GULZADINby the way, Hoary and Wartys are different versions of Ubuntu ?12:03
hellraiser_robyup12:03
Kamping_Kaiseryes12:03
GULZADINkk12:03
hondjekonrad: oh wait, won't work12:03
konradhondje: :(12:03
GULZADINWhat makes Ubuntu different from other distros ?12:03
konradhere I can't12:03
Kamping_Kaisergulzadin, i use it12:03
GULZADINlol12:04
Kamping_Kaiserbut i use Debian :$12:04
Kamping_Kaiser;)12:04
GULZADINthere has to be something good about Ubuntu that everyone says, "Get Ubuntu"12:04
GULZADIN:\12:04
Kamping_Kaisergulzadin, it just seems to be right for ppl12:04
Kamping_Kaisernot everyone, but  a lot12:04
GULZADINEase of use?12:04
Kamping_Kaiserthey do Gnome realy well12:04
Kamping_Kaiseryes, is one12:04
thoreauputicGULZADIN: what makes it different is that people are constantly asking why it's different ;)12:05
konradhondje: have you received it?12:05
hondjekonrad: still getting it :)12:05
GULZADINlol12:05
konradhondje: google knows nothing12:05
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hondjehellraiser_rob: no clue, man...plugins never like me12:05
hondjethat's why I use ubuntu on my desktop, everything else gets ol' debian12:06
konradhondje: it was similar problem with AMD64, but I have k712:06
goye2czI keep gettinga message to stop the an application that might be interfering with stuff.12:06
Kamping_Kaiserkonrad, i had a problem installing, but i was using breezy12:06
hondjekonrad: okay, dpkg -l | grep nvidia12:06
thoreauputicgoye2cz: lsof /dev/snd/*  and kill whatever is blocking jackd (most likely esd)12:07
Ruxi'm having an issue with dsl.  says  the file /etc/ppp/peers/dsl-provider does not existe... create it or use a command line argument to use another file in the ... (same directory)12:07
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Ruxbasically the file's not there12:07
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konradnvidia-glx     nvidia-kernel- 1.0.7174-0ubun  nvidia-kernel- 1.0.7174+1    nvidia-setting 1.0-3ubuntu212:08
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goye2czwith that command it simply gives me another prompt.12:08
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konradnvidia-glx     1.0.7174-0ubun NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver12:09
konradii  nvidia-kernel- 1.0.7174-0ubun NVIDIA binary kernel module for Linux 2.6.1012:09
konradii  nvidia-kernel- 1.0.7174+1     NVIDIA binary kernel module common files12:09
konradii  nvidia-setting12:09
MahlI got a 52 x Burner....Dma is enabled for that burner but still k3b only manages to burn at 12 x max... (between 5x and 12x)12:09
Mahlwhats wrong?12:09
jetscreamermedia?12:09
hondjekonrad: okay, thanks12:09
Mahl?12:09
thoreauputicRux: try `sudo touch /etc/ppp/peers/dsl-provider `12:09
jetscreameraka your cdrw is only 12x?12:09
jetscreamermedium.. the platter12:09
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thoreauputicRux: that should at least create the file...12:10
Mahlbut im burning CD-R cd's and not CD-RW's12:10
goye2czthoreauputic: does that mean I have no sound apps running?12:10
jetscreamerok your CD-R is only 12x ?12:10
Kamping_Kaiserdarth mahl - i sense a disturbance in the force12:10
hondjekonrad: sudo apt-get install deborphan12:10
Mahlno12:10
konradhondje: something with tls probably, maybe I need LD_pPRELOAD?12:10
MahlCD-R is 52 X....CD Burner is 52 X12:10
keikozhi all$*12:10
jetscreamerah ok12:10
thoreauputicgoye2cz: hmm...not necessarily: read the error message carefully12:10
hondjekonrad: I think stuff is sticking around after it should have left12:10
MahlKamping_Kaiser ... ?12:10
MahlSo what could be it?12:11
thoreauputicgoye2cz: but I'm no sound guru, I'm afraid12:11
Kamping_Kaisermahl, i dont know. i have never burned a cd with Linux :O12:11
thoreauputicgoye2cz: jackd can be pretty tricky12:11
konradhondje: impossilbe, I've checkeg everything many times12:11
jetscreamerall my medium is slow, i've yet to be able to max my writing out to 52. the burner does it though.12:12
goye2czthoreauputic: no prob man. I did your lsof /dev/snd/* and it just didn't do much. just like I hit enter.12:12
konradhondje: problem is probably with tls liblary12:12
ralfanyone has successful used ettercap with WiFi?12:12
thoreauputicgoye2cz: yeah - sometimes it lists some running process or other12:12
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hondjekonrad: I would dpkg -P nvidia*12:13
Mahlwell12:13
MahlI get 5x-12X12:13
thoreauputicgoye2cz: lsof lists "open files" - devices and files that are in use (everything is a file in linux)12:13
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konradhttp://republika.pl/kejk/nv.log12:13
hondjeI don't see why dpkg would list them if there wasn't something around :-/12:13
konradhondje: done12:14
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goye2czholy crap, that's a lot of files.12:14
konradhondje: I always "pure" confing after unintalling12:14
hondjeah, --purge12:14
konradhehe, mistake :)12:14
thoreauputicgoye2cz: hahah - you didn't run lsof without arguments, did you?12:14
goye2czummm.... no... of course not.... welll...... yeah.12:15
parabolize:)12:15
thoreauputicgoye2cz: if that sort of thing happens, use ctrl+ C to get out of the running process12:15
thoreauputicgoye2cz: :)12:15
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hondjekonrad: hrm, okay, this IS weird12:16
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goye2czthoreauputic: It finished pretty quick. but I was wondering what I had gotten myself into.12:16
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hondjeI have /usr/lib/libnvidia-tls.so.1.0.7664, and /usr/lib/tls/libnvidia-tls.so.1.0.766412:16
hondjeso wtf?12:16
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thoreauputicgoye2cz: you can easily get into endless loops if you want with one line12:17
thoreauputicgoye2cz: ctrl+c is a useful out12:17
konradhondje: nv.log is still sending - http://republika.pl/kejk/nv.log12:17
venomhello12:17
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Mahljetscreamer, i set k3b to use manual buffer size12:17
Mahlset it at 8012:17
Mahlnow it burns at 30 x12:17
Mahlalmost 4012:18
jetscreamerwhat was it set at12:18
goye2czthoreauputic: thanks, I remember that mess from back in the day when I used to write game programs on a TRS80. I've got the dynebolic live cd and it's supposed to be good for audio I guess, I jsut can't figure out how to make any of my usb things work with it.12:18
Mahl4 mb12:18
parabolizeMahl you test the cd?12:18
jetscreameri played adventure on a trash80 when i was a kid12:18
Mahlim gonna test the cd now12:18
thoreauputicgoye2cz: sound in linux is a bit like alchemy, I suspect... *grin*12:19
Mahlits done burning12:19
goye2czthoreauputic: wonderful12:19
MahlCD Works perfectly12:19
parabolizecool12:19
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goye2czthoreauputic: do you know if using linux in a DAW application is very popular or do I have to be some kind of linux know it all to even want to try?12:20
gm78i am running hoary right now. how do i disable esd so the process won't load anymore?12:20
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Mahlnice! instead of using 10 minutes it now uses 1 minute12:20
Mahl:D12:20
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thoreauputicgoye2cz: since i don't know what DAW stands for, I guess I can't answer...12:20
goye2czcrimsun: any idea how I can solve problems with jackd now?12:21
goye2czthoreauputic: sorry, digital audio workstation.12:21
konradhondje: : http://republika.pl/kejk/nv.log12:21
hondjekonrad: just read it12:21
hondjethat makes no sense12:21
Mezyay for gaim 1.3.112:21
thoreauputicgoye2cz: ah I see - well if you can find a guru like crimsun, you might short cut the process12:21
Mahlmez: It rocks12:21
Mezyeah I know Mahl12:22
Kamping_Kaisermez, is 1.3.1 out?12:22
MezI just backported it :D12:22
Kamping_Kaiseri only have 1.312:22
Kamping_Kaiser:S12:22
MezI just backported it Kamping_Kaiser12:22
goye2czany linux recording studio gurus out there?12:22
Mezhttp://www.sourceguru.net/ubuntu/hoary/backports/12:22
MahlWhat does *backport* mean?12:22
Kamping_Kaiseri use breezy :S i should have it12:22
Mezget the gaim .debs (all 312:22
Mezput them in a dir12:22
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thoreauputicgoye2cz: I believe the apps are actually very good - but getting the config right isn't exactly... trivial12:22
MahlOh I see12:22
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MezKamping_Kaiser, I'm going to build for breezy in a mo12:22
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Kamping_Kaiserok.12:23
Kamping_Kaiserupgrade?12:23
konradhondje: no-one had that problem, so I have to manage with this myself :(12:23
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goye2czthoreauputic: yeah, widnows is fairly easy as far as that goes, but getting it to work like  well oiled machine can be a nightmare.12:23
Mahlgot the changelog Mez?12:23
MezKamping_Kaiser, yeah I'll be uilding gaim for breezy :D12:23
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hondjekonrad: maybe use --no-recursion12:23
MezMahl; - changelog for what ?12:23
Kamping_Kaiser:) cool mez12:23
thoreauputicgoye2cz: I struggled to get timidity and rosegarden working for midis - took me a couple of days but when it worked I did a little jig... *G*12:23
konradhondje: now even DEBs don't work, so have to do some experiments - I'll try turn off tls12:24
Mahlfrom 1.3.0 to 1.3.1 gaim12:24
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Mezoh actually Kamping_Kaiser my mat'es built it for breezy (if you just want a .debn12:24
konradhondje: I'll send my results :)12:24
Mezoh actually Kamping_Kaiser my mat'es built it for breezy (if you just want a .deb) (12:24
Mez*12:24
goye2czanyone know much about audio with ubuntu? I'm trying to get jack and ardour working.12:25
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hondjekonrad: --no-recursion, --force-tls=[TLS TYPE] , -e or maybe tring from --extract-only12:25
Kamping_Kaisermez, I'll wait :) i have a shaped net connection anyway12:25
MezKamping_Kaiser, fair enough12:25
hondjepoor guy, --force-tls or --no-recursion would ahve done it I bet12:25
MezI'm going to build for breezy anyways :D with the source aswell12:26
xabbu|Is there some way to search the system after a folder?12:26
hondjexabbu|: find12:26
Kamping_Kaiseror locate12:26
Kamping_Kaiserif its up to date12:27
hondjeor ls -lR | grep :)12:27
MahlThe cedega room is dead...can anybody in here help me with it?12:27
hondjeMahl: maybe, I paid them money for a couple years, maybe I learned something :)12:27
hondjecan ls show absolute paths?12:27
MahlWell...im installing a 2 cd game....Sometimes when it asks for cd no 2....its possible to eject...or make an iso out of no 2 and mount it over the cd12:28
Mahlbut this time...im trying to install sid meiers pirates which is supported by cedega12:28
MahlNo chance in hell can I eject the cd12:28
Mahlor unmount it12:28
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MahlSo how they installed it is beyond me12:28
hondjeMahl: are there both setup.exe and install.exe on the cdrom?12:28
thoreauputicgoye2cz: this looks entertaining: >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DrainingTheLinuxAudioSwamp12:28
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hondjediablo2 had that particular problem, using the wroong one wouldnt let you eject12:29
Mahltheres just an setup file12:29
hondjeokay, are you calling it by absolute path?12:29
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Mahlmeaning?12:29
hondjelike, cedega /media/cdrom0/setup.exe12:29
hondjeand not cd /media/cdrom0; cedega setup.exe12:29
Mahltried both man...12:29
hondjehow about umount -l12:30
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Mahlthat doesnt work12:30
hondjehrm12:30
hondjecopy and mount to the loopback?12:30
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Mahltried12:30
gRRosminetHello everybody12:30
hondjewow, ain't nothing working12:31
hondjewhat if you mount by dev, ie mount /dev/hdc12:31
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hondjecan you eject then?12:31
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goye2czthoreauputic: is it possible I'm running jackd under a different user?12:32
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goye2czthoreauputic: how do I find out? fix it?12:32
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thoreauputicgoye2cz: only if you used root or sudo12:32
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hondjegoye2cz: in a terminal, pgrep jack12:32
thoreauputicps aux | grep jack I suppose (while it's running)12:33
thoreauputicyeah, pgrep is more elegant :)12:33
Mahltrying hondje12:33
hondjepgrep saves typing...please, think of the keys :)12:33
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thoreauputicheheh12:33
hondjeit basically does ps aux | grep term | awk '{print $2}'12:34
hondjeBut you can also do fun stuff like pgrep -u foo, where foo is a user12:34
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bigfoot1hello. My archive manager (file roller) can't work with rar files. How can I make it work?12:34
hondjepkill -u is fun when your coworkers suck12:34
hondjebigfoot1: install unrar12:34
goye2czthoreauputic: ok.... it gave me a bunch of numbers12:34
thoreauputicgoye2cz: I suggest you try `sudo pkill esd` before running jackd (of course you have to resurrect it afterards)12:34
MahlI cannot run the setup nor install the msi files outside of the /media/cdrom folder12:34
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bigfoot1hondje, i installed freeunrar, or a filename like that. Do i still need unrar?12:35
gRRosminetI'd like to ask you how to do to make "sudo" aware of my new root password ?12:35
hondjegRRosminet: that's not how sudo works12:35
thoreauputicgoye2cz: if each number is associated with jackd, kill the lot ( eg killall jackd )12:35
hondjesudo wants your passwd12:35
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thoreauputicgoye2cz: then try again...12:35
hondjepkill jackd12:35
hondjepkill -9 jackd and get brutal :D12:35
bigfoot1hondje, i got unrar-nonfree. So do i still need unrar to make file-roller work with rar files?12:36
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thoreauputichondje: I like killall -KILL  ;)12:36
hondjethoreauputic: hehe, always a nice one12:36
hondjereally beat it in12:36
goye2czthoreauputic: now I'm left with one of these ">"12:36
thoreauputicheheh12:36
bigfoot1hondje, ?12:37
hondjebigfoot1: I'm rtfm on it12:37
thoreauputicgoye2cz: Ok that suggests something is running - try ctrl + C12:37
bigfoot1what's rtfm?12:37
thoreauputicor or just close that term...12:37
hondjereading the f**king manual12:37
bigfoot1By the way, in synaptic, it says that if i want to install unrar, it will uninstall unrar-nonfree. 8-)12:37
hondjestfw is searching the naughty web12:37
Mahlhondje, unable to eject cd...12:38
Mahlthis..pisses me off12:38
hondjeMahl: how about using point2play?12:38
hondjebigfoot1: yeah, don't do that12:38
MahlI got an idea mind you12:38
Mahland thats not running it in terminal12:38
Mahlbut thru gnome12:38
bigfoot1hondje, ok.12:38
vampire123ubuntu has new version12:38
vampire123it is so nice12:38
hondjeMahl: maybe with exec12:38
vampire123i like it12:38
goye2czthoreauputic: no dice. I need food. Thanks for your help, I'll have to try this again later.12:39
thoreauputicMahl: my somewhay insecure answer to recacitrant ejection is ` sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/eject `12:39
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bigfoot1does anybody know how you can find out all the I.P.'s your computer is connected to?12:39
gRRosminethondje, at installation, I have defined a user "a" with password "A" so the root password also is "A" ... I have done "su -" and changed my root password to "B" but when I try to run an application using sudo, the password is still "A" (but when I do "su -" the password is the "B")12:39
thoreauputicgoye2cz: OK - Bon appetit ... and good luck12:39
ilucivhi is there a place where the v4l cards are listed12:39
LadyRootbigfoot1, netstat12:39
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theD3viLIf any ready to help me with shoutcast radio server on linux please help me!12:39
theD3viLIt says shoutcast is sleeping .. listeners 012:40
hondjegRRosminet: sudo isn't root12:40
bigfoot1LadyRoot, okay. I tried that now. There's a lot of information. Which ones are the relevant ones?12:40
hondjesudo grants you permission to do something normally root only can, though in ubuntu you can do all things12:41
bigfoot1Does anybody in this room have their archive manager (file-roller) working with rar files?12:41
gRRosminethondje, do you mean there is a "sudo" user with it's own password ?12:41
hondjeonly way to make sudo passwd the same as root is to change your users passwd to be the same12:41
Mahlwill that eject the cdrom drive forcefully thoreauputic without messing up anything?12:41
hondjegRRosminet: sudo only asks passwd to confirm it's you12:41
thoreauputicMahl: it makes the eject command run suid root12:41
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gRRosminethondje, strange : on other distributions, it asks for root password ....12:42
hondjeif you want to do a command as root, then you use su -c12:42
thoreauputicMahl: helped me, but it is regarded as a slight security issue12:42
LadyRootbigfoot1, netstat --numeric-hosts|less12:42
LadyRootand netstat -? :)12:42
thoreauputicMahl: once done, when you run eject, the sytem thinks you are running it as root12:43
thoreauputic*system12:43
bigfoot1I can unrar files in the terminal, but not in fileroller/archivemanager.12:43
hondjegRRosminet: They weren't using sudo correctly then...debian does it right as well, so does slackware and all the commercial UNIX I have used12:43
hondjebigfoot1: http://fileroller.sourceforge.net/12:43
hondjeaccording to that, unrar was added in a version later than the one ubuntu has12:43
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thoreauputicMahl: the other trick to unmount the cd is to run ` umount -l /dev/cdrom `12:43
ilucivI need help with video for linux stuff can anyone help at all12:44
hondjebigfoot1: so I'd install rar, too, and try again12:44
hondjebigfoot1: after that, I'd give up :)12:44
thoreauputicMahl:  also known as "lazy umount"12:44
MahlDoesnt work12:44
bigfoot1Mahl, what doesn't work?12:44
thoreauputicWorks Here (TM)12:44
bigfoot1Mahl, oh sorry. I thought you may have been talking to me. 8-)12:44
zerokillshondje: i got Counter Strike: Source to find servers finally12:44
hondjethe point of sudo is to let your worker bees go about their lives without exposing root, which is normally HUGE and locked in a safe, at least in my experience12:45
MahlThis means ill never be able to install the game12:45
Mahl*sob*12:45
gRRosminetok, thanks for informations12:45
hondjezerokills: good deal :)12:45
hondjeYou're welcome12:45
thoreauputicMahl: did you try "sudo umount -l /dev/cdrom ` ?12:45
hondjetry fuser /media/cdrom0 (or wahtever)12:46
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hondjemake sure it's only cedega running on it12:46
bigfoot1hondje, I think it works!!!12:46
bigfoot1thanks.12:46
hondjebigfoot1: you're welcome12:46
MahlI love you thoreauputic12:46
thoreauputicaha12:47
bigfoot1i love thoreauputic, too.12:47
Mahlwhat does the l do12:47
hondjeMahl: lazy12:47
MahlOooo12:47
hondjehey wait, I told you -l an hour ago! :P12:47
thoreauputicMahl: it's risky - it fixes things as wella s it can after the umount12:47
Mahlbut how does it actually work?12:47
bob2hehehe12:47
MahlSorry hondje12:47
MahlI love you too then12:47
filosofhow do i make program start runing on boot ?12:48
zerokillshondje: if i CTRL+ALT+F1, what do i type in at prompt to get back into gnome?12:48
hondje[04:30]  hondje how about umount -l12:48
hondjehehehehe12:48
kimozerokills: ctrl+alt+f712:49
hondjeyep yep12:49
zerokillsk thanks kimo12:49
zerokillsbrb12:49
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hondjeit's not who says it, it's who gets the guy to grok it ;-)12:49
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filosofhow do i make program start runing on boot ?12:50
hondjeand the Ubuntu Community is now richer12:50
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d3bianhello everyone12:50
hondjefilosof: booting into gnome, or booting up ?12:50
filosofbooting when server is booting up12:50
zerokillsjust used forced quit for my first time12:51
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hondjeyou make a script to launch it and put it in /etc/init.d is the proper way12:51
hondjezerokills: forced quit?12:51
zerokillshondje: yea12:51
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hondje?12:51
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zerokillshondje: if a window freezes, you can use Forced Quit to close it12:52
filosof hondje  and the script will be run automaticly on system boot ?12:52
hondjefilosof: you have to make links in the /etc/rcN.d directory, too12:52
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hondjezerokills: oh, yeah!12:52
zerokillshondje: right-click on a panel, choose Add to Panel, and youll find Forced Quit in there12:53
rsshi, evolution is not coming up and am getting this error:12:53
zerokillshondje: its sweet12:53
hondjefilosof: but if it's just a command and I'm feeling lazy, I'll add it to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh12:53
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rssGdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib12:53
hondjezerokills: ah, cool...I've been using xkill12:53
rssthe locale that is set, I think is, en_IN12:53
zerokillshondje: whatever works12:53
hondjexkill is rude :-/12:54
rssit is on Horay12:54
filosof hondje  hm..., but wich one is proper way ?12:54
hondjelike, xkill xine and it'll leave a process12:54
rsshoary12:54
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zerokillsgotta refart my computer, brb12:54
hondjefilosof: the long hard way, of course :)12:54
filosoflol12:55
hondjefilosof: what are you trying to have start on boot?12:55
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filosof hondje  apache2 and mysql and rootcheck, and BFD12:55
hondjefilosof: man initscript for a sample one12:55
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hondjeHappyFool: I owe you a beer12:58
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hondjematplotlib is going to make my days easier12:58
Mahlso when is the new nvidia driver getting on the hoary repository12:58
Mahlthe installer made...the x system go down12:58
hondjewhen breezy comes out, I hear12:58
hondjedefine down12:59
Mahltons of error messages and garble12:59
MahlWhen is breezy coming out? In october?12:59
hondjepost your errors01:00
hondjeprobably in /var/log/Xorg.0.log01:00
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hondjegrep EE might help01:01
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pacohello every body01:05
pacoi m a new ubuntu user01:06
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pacoi dont know how to edit fstab for my windows partition01:06
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pacoonly the root can read it01:06
hondjepaco: sudo gedit /etc/fstab01:07
LadyRootsudo pico /etc/fstab01:07
LadyRoot;)01:07
liablepaco: sudo gedit fstab01:07
d3biandosudo emacs /etc/fstab01:07
pacoi try    defaults,unmask=222     but it doesnt work01:07
d3bian*sudo01:07
d3bianu have to edit the fstab01:07
hondjegksu -S vim /etc/fstab01:07
hondje:)01:07
d3bianhy paco u can try this01:07
d3bianread the ubuntu hoary guide01:07
d3bianalways remember this rule RTFM!!!01:08
d3bianlol01:08
pacoiti can read fstab , but i cant read the windows partition01:08
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pacothe fucking manual is not as bright as a human01:09
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hondjepaco: man mount says you can use umount01:09
ilucivis it possible to update the kernel for ubuntu 5.04 from 2.6.10-5-38601:09
iluciv to 2.6.11.1101:09
pacoi try to use  TFM01:09
d3bianthe ubuntu guide is the most barney style written manual u will ever read for any *nix flavor01:09
pacoi havenot found what i need01:10
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d3bianit tells u stetp by step and it even gives u an option on that the actual file should look like , assuming that windows is intall in hda101:10
pacothe web's manual01:10
hondjepaco: man mount says you can use umount  <--- that's hondje-talk for umask01:10
d3bianif in doubt make a backup copy od ur fstab file01:11
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hondjeumask=022 is nice and permissive01:11
d3bianand then copy and paste the ubuntu guide one to ur hard drive01:11
hondjethen erase half the guide01:11
pacothe manual is in english?01:11
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d3bianthey have various labguages paco01:12
Razor-Xhow goes it in here, you people who either don't sleep, or live in non-Western-Hemisphere regions?01:12
d3bianwhat do u speak spanish?01:12
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Razor-Xhondje: thought so ;)01:13
Razor-Xahhh, this is a great sleepover01:13
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Razor-X3 fans running01:13
Razor-Xdoor closed, a desktop and two laptops humming01:13
UbuntianNFS mounting is not supported in Ubuntu?01:13
hondjeUbuntian: yes, it is01:13
d3bianyes it is Ubuntian01:13
Razor-Xand movies/network usage all night long ;)01:13
d3bianubuntu supports it01:13
Razor-Xthird diet coke this night, for me01:13
ilucivhondje: is it possible to update the kernel for ubuntu 5.04 from 2.6.10-5-386 to 2.6.11.1101:13
hondjeI wouldn't use a distro w/out nfs01:14
d3bianjust like i told paco ubuntian, RTFM!!01:14
d3bianits all in there01:14
hondjeiluciv: yes, but I dunno if it's apt-able01:14
Razor-Xd3bian: this isn't the place NTFM01:14
Razor-X*RTFM01:14
pacoto take the modification made in fstab?01:14
Ubuntianhondje, d3bian when i type insmod nfs i don't see any nfs lines...01:14
Razor-Xanyways, Sin City's after Episode IV, so, see yah01:14
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Razor-X*for RTFM01:14
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d3bianubuntian it has to be listed in ur fstab or mtab file01:14
pacomount -a is that01:14
Ubuntiand3bian, if u don't have the patience to answer a question you shouldn't be here01:15
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ilucivhondje: whats the most current apt-able kernel??01:15
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xxenonfirefox crashing as soon as there is flash on a webpage...known problem ?01:15
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NotThomMayUbuntian: agreed01:16
pavanhey ..Good Morning Guys..I just loaded Ubuntu and having issue in running RealPlayer..Any known issues?..Thank you01:16
hondjeUbuntian: cat /usr/src/linux-headers-`uname -r`/.config | grep NFS01:16
Ubuntianbesides i've been reading the NFS howto for hours now01:16
NotThomMayxxenon: yeah, I've heard reports of firefox being unstable with flash, not sure if theres a solution01:16
xxenongreat ...01:16
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NotThomMaypavan: whats the issue?01:17
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hondjeiluciv: looks to be 2.6.11-101:18
hondjeiluciv: but why do you need it?01:18
pavanwhen i run realplayer it gives the following error01:18
pavan cat /usr/src/linux-headers-`uname -r`/.config | grep NFS01:18
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pavan(realplay.bin:1818): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib01:18
hondjepavan: nice error ;-)01:18
ilucivv4l patch01:18
hondjeah01:19
Ubuntianhondje, that line is to allow nfs mount?01:19
ilucivhondje: v4l patch sorry01:19
pavansry...copy/paste error..01:19
hondjeUbuntian: sorry, thought if you were using nfs you'd know what that was :) It means NFS is around01:19
EgilOfBorghello, how do I get Ubuntu to auto mount a usbdisk as writable?01:20
hondjeiluciv: then do it up ;-)01:20
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Ubuntianhondje, just trying to share folders, don't know much about nfs01:20
konradproblem with nvidia drivers is probably with usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a file01:21
ilucivhondje: downloading now would the 2.6.11-1-k7 be used also for sempron you think && do I also have to recompile kern after download?? or make all modules_install install (sorry noobie)01:21
pavanhondje:Any soln for my realplayer prob?...(Without music ..my mind will not work..:-)01:21
Choubakawhy do you need realplayer to play music? :|01:21
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hondjeUbuntian: well, cd /lib/modules, and then run 'ls -R | grep nfs' ... you should see nfs.ko, nfsd.ko in there01:21
hondjepavan: I don't know realplayer01:21
Ubuntianok thanks01:22
Choubakarealplayer is non-free01:22
Choubakaanyway01:22
Choubakapavan: sounds like your locale is fscked01:22
hondjepavan: there's a dpkg locale configure thing though01:22
Choubakado "locale"01:22
Choubakaand tell me what the LANG= says01:23
pavanoh ok..here it goes01:23
pavanLANG=en_SG.UTF-801:23
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hondjeen_SG?01:23
pavandon;t know..I am in singapore ..:-)01:24
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hondjeah, okay01:24
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pavanok, bye..let me check this out...Will come back with a sln..01:29
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Kamping_Kaiserwhat  do i need to add to fstab to get a folder to bind?01:30
Kamping_Kaiserie the boot time equivilant of mount --bind foo foo01:30
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ChoubakaHmm.01:31
ChoubakaAre there any non-sucky laptops that Ubuntu supports?01:32
goldfishoh yes01:32
PithlitChoubaka: ubunti is linux01:32
goldfishthe dell i8600 is non sucky !01:32
Pithlit*ubuntu01:32
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ChoubakaPithlit: yes.01:32
Pithlittherefore it supports anything that any other distro supports01:33
ChoubakaThat's not true.01:33
Pithliti.e. close to everything01:33
aapeliiKamping_Kaiser: I think you need to put bind in the fourth field01:33
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Pithlitlike how is that not true?01:33
aapeliiin /etc/fstab01:33
Vurdakhi all01:33
Vurdaki have a very big problem with apt-get01:33
Kamping_Kaiseraapelii ok. I'll try it01:33
upgrdmanhow do i stop x from restarting after a ctrl-alt-bksp ... temporarily...01:33
upgrdmanin gentoo i could just /etc/init.d/xdm stop01:34
ChoubakaI might choose a PC laptop if there's some which works perfectly as far as suspend/sound/peripherals go, has good battery life and is stable.01:34
upgrdmananyone?01:34
aapeliiupgrdman: doesn't /etc/init.d/gdm stop work01:34
ChoubakaPithlit: Ubuntu may have kernel patches/userspace software/hardware detection that's more advanced than with other distros.01:34
minimalI can't get Muine to work.01:35
minimalThe program runs fine but doesn't play music, it stays at 0:0001:35
minimal:(01:35
upgrdmanaapelii, thx... gdm!01:35
PithlitChoubaka: if they are more advanced that would suggest they support more things than other distros01:35
Pithlitso you're even safer :P01:35
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upgrdmanaapelii, no that doesnt help tho :( and /etc/init.d/xorg-common stop doesnt seem to stop it... i can up-arrow and enter time after time, and it stop the new instances... it just keeps coming up01:37
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ChoubakaPithlit: exactly.01:37
ChoubakaBut I want to know for sure01:37
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GhettoFishhello my fellow kindsmen!01:37
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Kamping_Kaiseraapelii, you were right :) thanks01:38
PithlitChoubaka: google for supported hardware in linux and get a lappy with that hardware01:38
ChoubakaI am planning of getting a 12" ibook. But if there's something on the PC side which works flawlessly and has more than 2 hour battery life, then I might go with that.01:38
ChoubakaPithlit: I did google.01:38
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goldfishi was gonna get a 12" pb, but the intel thing has made me think twice01:38
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Pithlitmy gericom works flawlessly in gentoo... I'm absolutely certain it would work flawlessly with any other distro01:39
Choubakagoldfish: Don't be scared of the intel switch.01:39
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Pithlitit just boils down to how much time and effort you're willing to invest in making things work01:39
goldfishChoubaka: yeah, im not, but like, whats the oint in buying one, when they are gonna be different in 2 years...01:39
goldfish*point01:39
ChoubakaPithlit: second to none.01:39
Choubakaehh01:39
Choubakawrong english01:39
hondjeOf course they're going to be different01:40
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Choubaka"near no effort at all :("01:40
goldfishindeed01:40
hondjea thinkpad is going to be different in two years too01:40
ChoubakaApple will probably support PPC far enough into the future so you'll have to replace your laptop by the time support ends.01:40
goldfishwell, i mean different hardware.01:40
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goldfishChoubaka: exactly01:40
hondjeyeah, but so's what a thinkpad is giong to have01:40
upgrdmanis there a local.start file in ubuntu? for executing commands at bootup01:40
PithlitChoubaka: ummm then I'd better tell you I'm having a blast with ubuntu01:40
ChoubakaHow's wireless configuration with Ubuntu?01:40
ChoubakaI love ubuntu.01:41
Choubakait's the best. I just don't know about laptops.01:41
hondjeChoubaka: it's linux, ergo it's spotty01:41
Seveasupgrdman, you can make it yourself ot add things to bootmisc.sh01:41
GhettoFishI got a problem...01:41
GhettoFishi get this message.01:41
GhettoFishFailed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libg/libggi/libggi2_2.0.5-1ubuntu1_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch01:41
GhettoFishE: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?01:41
upgrdmanChoubaka, i have hell with some buggyness when wap stuff... but unecrypt. works ok01:41
PithlitI'm wrestling it... prolly due to me being used to gentoo01:41
SeveasChoubaka, ig you don't need wpa/802.1x wirless config is good01:41
GhettoFishwhen i try to do apt-get install01:41
Choubakawpa?01:41
GhettoFishand even though i do apt-get update i ge tthe same message.01:41
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GhettoFishAnyone got any ideas on what it might be?01:41
Pithlitand I actually think gentoo is dead easy (while ubuntu isn't :/)01:41
Pithlitbut I'm a cli monkey01:42
Choubakaunencrypted sounds scary. I don't want to send my passwords in plaintext. :/01:42
SeveasGhettoFish, ah, the US server is buggy again i guess01:42
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upgrdmanSeveas, which one... the one is init.d or rcS.d?01:42
SeveasGhettoFish, does it happen with all downloads?01:42
Seveasupgrdman, init.d01:42
GhettoFishno, not all. but most01:42
Seveasrc*.d contain only symlinks to files in init.d01:42
SeveasGhettoFish, use another mirror then01:42
GhettoFishwhere can i find mirrors?01:42
Seveasuse archive.ubuntu.com instead of us.archive.ubuntu.com01:42
GhettoFishok01:43
GhettoFishthx.01:43
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upgrdmanis > the append operator? or >>01:43
Seveas>>01:43
Seveas> is overwrite01:43
goldfish> will delete01:43
goldfishyeah01:43
upgrdmanthx01:43
upgrdmanSeveas, and do i need to put "sudo" in front of commands in bootmisc.sh?01:44
Seveasupgrdman, no01:44
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hondjeupgrdman: man initscripts is helpful01:44
ChoubakaBut if I can find a lightweight, less than 1000 EUR laptop with good battery life and Linuc support, I'll be happy.01:44
Seveasupgrdman, is it really needed to be done at bootup..?01:44
raptoidhi guyz01:44
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raptoidfluxbox install ?01:45
goldfishChoubaka: a 12" powerbook is a good choice01:45
raptoidapt-get install ???? ?01:45
goldfishraptoid: apt-get install fluxbox01:45
goldfishwith sudo01:45
raptoid:)01:45
raptoidthnx goldfish01:45
raptoidmucx01:45
goldfishnp01:45
Choubakagoldfish: I don't have money for one.01:45
Pithlitapt-get install e1701:46
upgrdmanSeveas, yes, its a workaround for some drive issues not wanting X to use widescreen res 1280x768 on my laptop... has to be executed before X... this is the easier way01:46
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raptoidgoldfish,01:46
raptoidWARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!01:46
raptoid  fluxbox01:46
raptoidInstall these packages without verification [y/N] ?01:46
raptoidE: Some packages could not be authenticated01:46
raptoid?01:46
jeroen_raptoid, using backports, right?01:47
Pithlity01:47
goldfishhmmmm.01:47
goldfishChoubaka: Ah right.01:47
goldfishmy laptop worked fine out of the box with linux01:47
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Choubakadoes it have wireless?01:47
goldfishyeah01:47
Choubakacool01:47
Choubakahow's the battery life?01:47
raptoide17 or fluxbox what is nice ?01:47
Seveasupgrdman, hmm, dunno if bootmisc.sh executes before X01:47
hondjee17 is alpha01:48
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goldfishraptoid: both are nice, xfce is nice too.01:48
goldfishChoubaka: heh, its nearly always plugged in, havent tested it much :)01:48
raptoide17 fluxbox xfce ?01:48
goldfishraptoid: try them out :)01:48
Choubakagoldfish: hmm.01:48
upgrdmanSeveas, it appears to... because it worked when i rebooted01:48
ChoubakaThis is the dell you talked about?01:48
Seveasupgrdman, ok :)01:48
goldfishChoubaka: yeah, i have a dell.01:48
goldfishChoubaka: my family use it too, so its always plugged in nearly.01:49
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goldfishinfact, i think the battery needs replacing.01:49
Pithlithondje: e17 in not even alpha01:49
GhettoFisheeh... shouldn't maplayer-386 work just fine to install?01:50
berkesheh, i came in here for mplayer probnlems too :)01:50
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_paco_raptoid, u stink01:50
SeveasGhettoFish, mplayer-custom is the one to use01:50
_paco_u gypsy01:50
Seveas_paco_: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct01:50
raptoid_paco_, e17 ownz!01:50
GhettoFishok, on ubuntu HOWTO they use 386..01:50
raptoidxfce suzx01:50
ChoubakaDell Latitude 100L seems to be working quite well.01:50
GhettoFishgah get same error on that one.01:51
zerokillsCounter Strike: Source runs smooth on Ubuntu01:51
Choubakahttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsDell <- last01:51
GhettoFishThe following packages have unmet dependencies:01:51
GhettoFish  mplayer-custom: Depends: libavcodec2 but it is not installable01:51
GhettoFish                  Depends: libggi2 (>= 1:2.0.4) but it is not installable01:51
GhettoFishE: Broken packages01:51
SeveasGhettoFish, do not paste in here...01:51
GhettoFishsorry.01:51
Pithlitomg01:51
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SeveasGhettoFish, and do not use marillat or us.archive.ubuntu.com, the former is unusable, the latter is buggy now01:51
Pithlitwhy does mplayer depend on ggi?01:51
GhettoFishSeveas,  hmm, ok. Where can i find alternative servers?01:52
SeveasGhettoFish, use archive.ubuntu.com01:52
othernoobSeveas: what's wrong with marillat ?01:52
hondjeNo one would ever have a problem installing mplayer if they'd stop using marillat, or at least learn to pin :)01:52
Seveasothernoob, sarge is newer than hoary, so marillat can give dependency errors01:52
berkesmencoder gives me "Segmentatie fout" wich is "segmentation fault"01:52
_paco_compile mplayer from source01:53
zerokillshondje: you gotta get your Half-Life 2 workin so we can play some CS01:53
_paco_thats the best way01:53
hondjezerokills: I'm terrible at those games :)01:53
berkes_paco_: comppliing from source is never the best way :)01:53
othernoobi see01:53
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_paco_lets play legends01:53
zerokillshondje: gotta play more ;)01:53
hondjehehe01:53
Seveas_paco_, not in a binary distribution01:53
hondjeberkes: sure, if you use apt-get source :)01:53
Pithlitlol01:53
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berkesstrange sense of "best" you folks have :)01:54
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=== hondje things stable == best
GhettoFishok this time i changed to archive.ubuntu.com but now i get one more package that can't be installed when i try to install mplayer-custom.01:54
Kamping_Kaisermplayer is made to compile, not be packaged01:54
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hondjeGhettoFish: did you apt-get update, and what pkg?01:55
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berkesno seriously, mplayer works fine, just mencoder fails01:55
hondjeKamping_Kaiser: then why not sudo apt-get build-deb mplayer sudo apt-get source -b mplayer ?01:55
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zerokills_zzzzzbe back later01:55
hondjethat way it's compiled, deps are satisfied, everyone wins01:55
Kamping_Kaiserif you want01:55
ChoubakaActually, in case of mplayer, compiling from source gives the most performance.01:56
berkeshondje: E: Ongeldige operatie build-deb01:56
GhettoFishok did apt-get update and now i only get one file that can't be installed.01:56
Seveasbuild-dep01:56
hondjeYou can't go building from source and not at least making them .debs if you want to be able to maintain your system longer than a few months01:56
berkes(dunno the translation)01:56
GhettoFishlibavxodec201:56
GhettoFishcodec*01:56
Pithlitimho anyone that thinks compiling from source is best, shouldn't use a binary distro01:56
hondjeberkes: build-dep with a p01:56
ChoubakaEven the devs recommend compiling yourself.01:56
SeveasChoubaka, where did you read that..?01:57
Kamping_Kaiserpithlit, i dont recomend it for everything. mplayer is an exeption01:57
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hondjeever watched it compile, or ffmpeg? It's painful01:57
Seveasregarding installing things on ubuntu, i'd rather trust ubuntu devs01:57
berkes"E: Kan geen bronpakket vinden voor apt-get" hondje01:57
FireBoxHow can I install JRE on Ubuntu 5.04?01:57
hornsbyfor newbies, compiling can be a bad dream !01:57
Pithlithondje: yes... many times01:57
Seveasberkes, hondje is not dutch01:57
HappyFooldespite the name? ;)01:58
Seveasberkes, and enable multiverse for mplayer01:58
berkesah, his name is dutch :)01:58
hondjeYes, in spite of the name :)01:58
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hondjehet gekker snoodaard hondje01:58
berkessorry, for that01:58
raptoidFireBox, sh jre-1_5_0_02-linux-i586.bin01:58
hondjenp, happens all the time :)01:58
raptoidsudo mkdir /usr/java01:58
ChoubakaSeveas: It reads somewhere on the official page.01:58
raptoidsudo mv jre1.5.0_02/ /usr/java/01:59
raptoidsudo chown -R root:root /usr/java/jre1.5.0_02/01:59
Seveasraptoid, NO01:59
raptoidsudo ln -s /usr/java/jre1.5.0_02/bin/java /usr/bin/java01:59
raptoidsudo ln -s /usr/java/jre1.5.0_02/bin/java_vm /usr/bin/java_vm01:59
Seveasraptoid, that's not good01:59
raptoidsudo ln -s /usr/java/jre1.5.0_02/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/01:59
FireBoxraptoid: Perhaps you should privmsg it to me?01:59
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Seveasraptoid,firebox: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 01:59
raptoidok sorry.01:59
Seveasdo NOT foolw the ubuntuguide instructions01:59
FireBoxmake-jpkg or make-kpkg?01:59
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Seveasjpkg01:59
ChoubakaSeveas: I think the chmod +x part is redundant.02:00
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Seveaskpkg is for kernel stuff02:00
raptoidsone technique some geyique02:00
FireBoxOK, thanks.02:00
raptoideaohdhoae02:00
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SeveasChoubaka, hmm, afaik make-jpkg executes the bin file...02:00
Choubakabut it does it with sh I believe.02:00
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Seveasah :)02:00
hondjedamn commercial software02:00
HappyFoolhttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java has several ways of installing Java, though that may be the JDK, not the JRE02:01
ChoubakaI wish they completed GNU classpath :P02:01
Choubakaand the extras.02:01
berkesi have multiverse, Seveas, but still no luck :)02:01
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nxv__some things need installed and _configured_ kernelsources installed, how do i get those with ubuntu? when i apt-get install linux-source-2.6.10 are those configured?02:02
Seveasnxv__, usually linux-headers-$(uname -r) is enough02:03
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Seveasand yes, both headers and source are configured02:03
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nxv__thx Seveas02:04
Kamping_Kaiserif cedega produces unhandeled exeptions, would that be breezy or cedega?02:04
SeveasKamping_Kaiser, can be both...02:04
Seveasbreezy is unstable02:04
Kamping_Kaiseryeh i know02:04
Seveascedega is crap ;)02:04
Kamping_Kaiseri was wondering who i should abuse :P02:04
Kamping_Kaiserso it seems02:04
hondjeabuse breezy02:04
hondjethey'll actually look at your bug report02:05
Seveaslol02:05
Seveasbut true02:05
berkesis there actually an easy way of determining "unused" packages?02:05
Kamping_Kaiserlol. ok02:05
Seveasberkes, describe "unused"02:05
hondjeberkes: deborphan / debfoster02:05
berkeslike *uch* windows, shows you how often they are used02:05
hondjebe careful with tem, though02:05
Seveasberkes, yegh, that is uter crap02:06
berkesin the software installation screens and so02:06
Seveasberkes, because it's always wrong02:06
berkesSeveas: I know, but it is handy :)02:06
Seveasberkes, how can wrong information be handy???02:06
hondjesynaptic shows the results from popularity contest?02:06
berkesImean, if there was a working version of somethin like that, commandline, for *nix, that would be great02:06
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FireBoxSeveas: Thanks a heap, I now have working Java! :D02:07
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Seveasberkes, well, there is none :)02:07
ubuntuk02:07
ubuntuhello02:07
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ubuntudedalos identify02:07
Raskallhow should I interpret the hinfo for my mx? am I listed as a spammer? http://rolfas.net/hinfo.txt02:07
hondjemy voice is my passport02:07
FireBoxUplink...02:08
hondjeRaskall: That's what I'd take it as02:08
SeveasRaskall, the ip adress is listed as a spammer02:08
berkesalso, i went for mencoder (possibly with acidrip as FE) because it seems impossible to install transcode in ubuntu.02:09
hondjegot an open relay, Raskall ?02:09
berkeslots of forum posts about that, but no real solutions, it seems.02:09
hondjeberkes: Not impossible, sir!02:09
Pithlitlol02:09
hondjeand in a few days I'll have deps shifted down and can post it02:09
berkeshondje: *seems* impossible02:09
hondjestill needs two marillat repos for my pkg02:09
hondje:-/02:09
hondjefor libdivxencore0 / decore002:10
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hondjes/repos/deps02:10
RaskallSeveas: yes. but when I try norways biggest isp's mailserver, I get the same results02:10
berkeshondje: yup02:10
hondjejust gotta sit down and figure out what can replace them02:10
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hondjeit's in transcode's INSTALL, so I shouldn't have too much hastle02:11
berkeswatching make-logs is fun. its kinda hypnotic02:11
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hondjethe other problem is making it run stable w/ hoary ffmpeg02:12
hondjeoh well, I'll get it done soon, and I shall be hailed as a hero02:12
Seveas:)02:12
hondjenow if I can just figure out how dvd::rip works...02:12
Seveasuse the source, luke :)02:13
hondjetoo hard for me, I want 'click here to rip dvd to disk!'02:13
hondjeSeveas: that's cheating, I'm using the deb-src ;-)02:13
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hornsbyberkes, have you tried :http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=548&page=302:13
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hondjeI just want to rip dvds for my daughter, and make dvds from dv02:13
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signiusRaskall i cant find any MX records for the IP address to do a full DNS report02:14
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berkeshondje: jes,02:14
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Raskallsignius: the dns name for the mx is bigmama.ronningveien.net02:15
lsuactiafnerhow do i check the new version number of a program on apt-get before i download it?02:15
signiusok ill check that02:15
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hondjeberkes: ?02:15
lsuactiafneroh -s02:15
berkesbut installing stuff from marillat completely broke my system :)02:15
lsuactiafnermaybe not?02:15
lsuactiafnerhow?02:15
berkeshondje: that shouldve been yes02:15
hondjeah :)02:15
needs_helpHello02:15
hondjemarillat is good, if you use pinning02:16
signiusno its closed to ralays02:16
berkespinning?02:16
raptoidkurdish language pack for ubuntu ?02:16
signiushttp://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=ronningveien.net02:16
hondjeberkes: /etc/apt/preferences02:16
raptoidkurdish language pack for ubuntu ?02:16
hondjehttp://www.argon.org/~roderick/apt-pinning.html02:17
marineh, I need some help. I can't view movies02:17
berkeshondje: reading that already :)02:17
Raskallsignius: thanx.02:17
hornsbyberkes, try that, worked for me : sudo apt-get -t testing install transcode &&  sudo apt-get install dvdrip02:17
hondje:)02:17
signiusyour welcome02:17
berkesguess thats what i forgot last time :)02:17
signiusi hope that is of some use02:17
hondjeberkes: pin all that ubuntu has a version of to ubuntu, and then onlly the additional pkgs come from marillat02:18
berkeswell, i first try if my home-brewn mencoder works, for then i can use acidrip, which is nicr hen dvd::rip IMO02:18
aapeliicould anybody tell me how to setup my default session so that programs are opened to a certain workspace and with right window size and placement?02:18
needs_helpHello02:18
needs_helpdear bros02:18
hondjeaapelii: save session does it for me02:18
lsuactiafnerheh whats suppose to be in sources for transcode? since i got deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat unstable main? testing also?02:18
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needs_help i need help about installation02:19
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needs_helpplz somebody help me02:19
Raskallsignius: seems I need to forward that report to my domain pusher.02:19
hondjelsuactiafner: it's the same, control files are different02:19
berkeswe can see that you need help, needs_help :)02:19
lsuactiafnerneeds_help : just ask man02:19
aapeliihondje: also for programs not supporting it?02:19
hondjeaapelii: I'll get around that, man02:19
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signiusyou might also want to setup a SPF record02:19
Raskallsignius: I am not in control of the dns servers.02:20
Pithlithmmm headless install is kinda weird -_-02:20
hondjeaapelii: just got the libdivxencore0/decore0 ones02:20
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hornsbyberkes,  deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat stable main && deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat unstable main &&deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat testing main02:20
signiusi see02:20
pippijn/usr/sbin/ircd: error: unable to find "/usr/sbin/iauth".02:20
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pippijnwhere do I get iauth?02:20
marinCan somebody help me? I can't play avi and mpg movies02:20
hornsbylsuactiafner, you have testing too02:20
aapeliihondje: cool, I can test it when you have it done...02:21
berkesmarin: what do you use for playing?02:21
lsuactiafnernope02:21
hondjeaapelii: I'd appreciate that :)02:21
hornsbyadd it02:21
hornsbytesting main02:21
lsuactiafneradding it now02:21
aapeliihondje: Have you tried installing chroot ubuntu to test your packages, it might help you02:21
needs_helpk02:22
lsuactiafnerneeds_help : this is a help channel. ask in here.02:22
hornsbylsuactiafner, then try $sudo apt-get -t testing install transcode02:22
marinI use Totem02:22
hondjeaapelii: no, I'll look into that02:22
hondjetime to finish work :)02:22
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berkesmarin: i do not know totem, but are you sure you have the correct codecs installed?02:22
mhzhi you all02:22
aapeliiwell, I have to go to work... bye all02:23
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Pithlitaapelii: have fun02:23
hornsbymarin, sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins && sudo apt-get install w32codecs02:23
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lsuactiafnerstill not actually..02:23
lsuactiafnerdeb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat testing main02:23
lsuactiafneradding stable also02:23
mhzanyone knows why I can ssh to my ubuntu box ONLY from internal IP's???02:24
Seveaslsuactiafner, nerim can cause dependency issues...\02:24
hornsbylsuactiafner, have you done $sudo apt-get update ?02:24
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hondjeYou guys are nuts  :)02:24
Seveasmhz, you didn't forward the ssh port to your box?02:24
marinYes, I have already installed these codecs02:24
lsuactiafnermhz :because sshd listens on eth0 and not any other devices?02:24
Pithlithondje: yes yes we are :P02:24
hondjeOh well, you probably don't mind reinstalls either :)02:24
hornsbymarin, sudo apt-get install libdvdcss202:24
hondjeA toast, to our noble beta testers02:25
lsuactiafneror becuase the firewall doenst allow it02:25
hornsbymarin, for dvd's02:25
needs_helpI have intel 1100 mhz , 128 mb ram ,asus cd rom , 4 partitions: primary formatted , extended having data, i m having probe after the installation starts |||Some deboot strap error plz help me02:25
hondjekeeping hondje data-loss free since 200002:25
mhzlsuactiafner: that sounds logical where should I look so I make it listen to ethX ?02:25
lsuactiafnergrep -i ssh /var/adm/syslog02:25
marinwhich program do u use?02:25
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hornsbymplayer, vlc02:25
hornsbyxine is good too02:25
Seveasneeds_help, you should give the exact error, otherwise no one can help you... and also: with 128 mb you need a BIG swap partition or you're screwed02:26
lsuactiafnermhz : just check your /var/log/syslog and /var/log/messages02:26
mhzokidoki02:26
needs_helpI have intel 1100 mhz , 128 mb ram ,asus cd rom , 4 partitions: primary formatted , extended having data, i m having probe after the installation starts |||Some deboot strap error plz help me02:26
Seveasneeds_help, stop repeating and read what people say...02:26
tahorgany quick and dirty fix for the "Nautilus IS DOG SLOW" in breezy ?02:26
marinok, i'll try installing mplayer02:26
needs_helpthere is no reply to my probe02:26
lsuactiafnermhz : first look in logs for another explanation.. ssh gets loged.. else look @ /etc/ssh/sshd_config but make a backup of the file before you make changes02:26
hornsbytry taht first $sudo apt-get vlc02:26
hornsbyapt-get install vlc02:27
Seveasneeds_help, probe..?02:27
hornsbysorry02:27
lsuactiafnerneeds_help : state your question in this channel in a concise manner.02:27
berkesallright, finished compiling, but /me is noob in deb-source stuff, how tp proceed?02:27
lsuactiafneroh you did02:27
lsuactiafnerhmmm02:27
berkesive got a load .deb s now02:27
lsuactiafnerduring the instal did lilo or grub install properly?02:28
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lsuactiafnerscrew apt-get02:28
lsuactiafnerSat Jun 11 14:24:06 (tty4)02:28
lsuactiafnerroot@infant-finite ~/transcode-1.0.0beta302:28
lsuactiafner4926 nice -n -20 ./configure02:28
hondjeI don't get it02:29
mhzlsuactiafner:  thx02:29
hondjethe point of debian and debian-based distros IS apt-get, at least to me02:29
tahorgso, nobody's got nautilus really slow in breezy ?02:29
hondjeinstall once, last forever02:29
mhzlsuactiafner:  no ssh match in syslog nor in messages02:29
lsuactiafnerhondje : its less effort to get the source working than to figure out why apt dont have transcode for me02:29
lsuactiafnerhmmm02:30
hornsbytahorg, breezy is in dev. not recommended to use02:30
hondjeWell, there is logic to less-work02:30
lsuactiafneriptables -L -n | grep 2202:30
lsuactiafnerand02:30
lsuactiafneriptables -L -n | grep DROP02:30
scanwinderhey, does anyone know why when i try 2 chat using IRC in opera, it goes "fetching room list...." and then says "0 rooms"......it wont find rooms anymore.........it used to......and it does it on other comps aswell.......and in the windows version it also does it02:30
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scanwinderis it just a bug?02:31
hornsbyscanwinder, try xchat :)02:31
scanwinderthats what im using right now02:31
scanwinderbut i would like the opera one 2 work02:31
lsuactiafnerscanwinder : becuase you did a /list on a server with 1000000 rooms02:32
othernoobwhich program do i need to extract files from an .ace archive ? unace doesn't want to extract them02:32
lsuactiafnerthats insane02:32
lsuactiafnerscanwinder : try make opera not fetch a list02:32
scanwinderand put it in manually?02:32
hornsbythat makes sense :)02:32
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mhzlsuactiafner: none of the above mentioned iptable comands gave any result02:33
berkeshondje: sorry to ping yuo again, i compiled teh sources, can i now simply install the deb files with my package mgr?02:33
lsuactiafnerneeds_help : did the bootloaders lilo or grub install?02:33
hondjeberkes: dpkg -i file :)02:33
hondjeer, sudo dpkg -i file02:33
james__othernoob, could you let me know if you find out...02:33
othernoobjames__ sure02:33
lsuactiafnermhz : then its not the firewall, i believe the default sshd listens on all devices, therefore your network is blocking access to port 22 of the server02:33
mhz:(02:34
hondjemhz: do you use firestarter?02:34
mhznop, AFAIK :)02:34
lsuactiafneri will trun traceroute host to determine if there are any interuptions in the link02:34
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lsuactiafneralso you might be using ipv6 or ipv402:35
mhzipv402:35
lsuactiafnerand the external netowrk might be a differant protocall..02:35
lsuactiafnerbut thats a guess02:35
Kamping_Kaiserwoot. found what was wrong with cedega02:36
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berkescurse this. all this compiling and stuff, only to get the same result: segmentation fault.02:36
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mhzlsuactiafner, I assume giving ALL:ALL in sshd_config will be too stupid?02:36
lsuactiafnerKamping_Kaiser : ive known for a long time whats wrong with it.. it runs windows programs..02:36
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mhzlsuactiafner, or I should consider it reliable02:36
Kamping_Kaiserlol02:36
lsuactiafnermhz : well.. sorta02:36
Pithlitlsuactiafner: lol02:36
lsuactiafneri'm not paranoid02:36
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lsuactiafnerwell if anyone is going to hackor you sshd they will try hack @ first02:37
hondjelot of dictionary attacks, really lame02:37
lsuactiafneri would use iptables to limit connections to specifc hosts02:37
hondjeas long as you don't have a stupid passwd, those do nothing...sshd is pretty damn solid02:37
lsuactiafnerand try port knocking if you can02:37
mhzlsuactiafner, me neither BUT this won't be my box, and these people is the first time they'll use Linux, so... the less problematic the better :)02:37
oasehai02:37
Kamping_Kaiserhave other ppl been getting ssh scans with dictionary atacks?02:37
michael__hello everyone! does anyone know how to take a screenshot of firefox that shows the whole webpage? So, not just what you can see, but also the things that you need to scroll down for....02:38
hondjeKamping_Kaiser: for over a year now02:38
lsuactiafneryeh even on my dynamic dailup i had a dictionary attack when i ran without tables once02:38
Kamping_Kaiserhondje, ok, i know it was about 5 months min, but wondered02:38
lsuactiafnerjust use iptables to protect yourself02:38
hondjeI even saw one of the scripts they were using, it's a joke02:38
lsuactiafnerand dont allow more than 2 wrong logins02:38
lsuactiafner@ most 502:38
oasehello everybody02:38
Kamping_Kaisertheres only me, so i dont allow bad logins02:38
Kamping_Kaiserhi02:38
Pithlitand change the friggin default port to something else02:39
hornsbyhi02:39
oasekamping kaiser??02:39
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mhzhondje: I agree. My iptable knowledge still sucks02:39
hondjeusing keys is great, with sshd02:39
hondjemhz: give firestarter a shot, pretty good app....simple for newbies, powerful for when you grok it02:39
oaseany gurl in here...???02:39
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Kamping_Kaiserlol02:39
Seveashondje, combined with ssh-add it's even better :)02:39
drecohi there.  is atyfb build into initrd (hoary)?!02:39
mhzhondje: I am reading about it now :)02:39
lsuactiafneriptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -j DROP02:39
Pithlitoase: girls in a geek help channel? you're kidding right?02:39
hondjeSeveas: I must ask the wise man about it02:40
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oasehuehueheuhe02:40
oasealoha pith02:40
mhzlsuactiafner, iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -j DROP .... what will do?02:40
oaseu in where pith??02:40
Pithlitwhat? where? how?02:41
Seveasmhz, that'll block ssh...02:41
lsuactiafnerdrop everything02:41
jan_hi all, I've just installed ubuntu 5.04 in my machine, just booted. But it seems it has left my /etc/fstab unconfigured -- some kind of bug. Could somebody paste me a copy of the default /etc/fstab file for ubuntu ? I edit it accordingly later, to adapt to my partitions ... Thanks for any help! :)02:41
lsuactiafnerand make sshd unusable02:41
lsuactiafnerheh02:41
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lsuactiafner/dev/hda2        /                ext3        defaults         1   102:42
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lsuactiafner/dev/hda1        swap             swap        defaults         0   002:42
lsuactiafnerdevpts           /dev/pts         devpts      gid=5,mode=620   0   002:42
lsuactiafnerproc             /proc            proc        defaults         0   002:42
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Seveasjan_, http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/6502:42
Seveaslsuactiafner, fool02:42
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jan_thanks lsuactiafner!02:42
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Seveasyou know you shouldn;t paste in here02:42
lsuactiafnerhehehe02:42
hondjejan_: there's no default fstab02:42
lsuactiafnereh yeh02:42
lsuactiafneri didnt.. i catted (;02:42
Kamping_Kaiserhondje yes there is, its what jan_ has ;)02:42
mhzSeveas, ah, ok. but no good if I need ssh so much :)02:42
hornsby:)02:42
jan_hondje, I mean, the swap options, devpts, sys and the like ...02:43
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hondjejan_: one mans layout is totally different than yours...for example, I have /var and /tmp and /home on seperate partitions02:43
bvbvvvbvbvtolooonggg !!!!02:43
bvbvvvbvbvsapa yg dari indonesia nih , minta tolong02:43
Seveasbvbvvvbvbv, we speak english in here02:43
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Pithlitmhz: changing the default port and allowing access from only certain IP's (usefull if you use static) and only certain users (no root!) will help a lot02:44
bvbvvvbvbvi can't speak english :(02:44
eleusisheh02:44
Seveasbvbvvvbvbv, then find a channel in your language..02:44
eleusisbut it seems you can read and write it :P02:44
othernoobSeveas: do you know a program to extract ace files, unace doesnt want to extract02:45
mhzohhhh, I almost forgot... I googled for about 45 minutes about this annoying feature. in an iBook, the only resolution i can end up using is 600 x 400 something. Even after specifing 1024x768 or even 800 x ... Any ideas?02:45
Seveasothernoob, sorry, no02:45
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hondjeif we care about security today, mount /dev/shm noexec,rw02:45
othernoobno prob, thx though02:45
Seveasdid you restart the X server after changing xorg.conf?02:45
mhzPithlit, yes. root never gets logged in02:45
hondjeIt's doesn't hurt a thing, and /dev/shm exploits are on the rise02:46
mhzPithlit, yes. but unfortunately, I need to ssh to it any time, from any ip :(02:46
Pithlitwtf?!? Fatal: raid_setup: stat("/dev/hda1") after running lilo02:46
mhzSeveas, yep02:46
berkeshondje: i got from your comment that youare currently working on the transcode packge?02:47
mhzhondje, well said02:47
hondjeberkes: Oh yeah, I have it built, it just needs two marillat deps still02:47
hondjeshould be done by the end of next week, I figure, since I don't exactly devote a ton of time to it02:48
berkesbecause my installation fails with 6 unmet dependencies02:48
hondjepaste me the 6 in /query02:48
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berkes/query?02:49
jaysinhey all!02:49
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hondjeberkes: /query opens up a tab to me02:49
jaysinare there any wine experts in the house?02:49
raptoidwhat is install tar.gz for ubuntu ?02:49
Pithlitok I seem to be having some issues... I'm assuming vmliuz-2.6.10* is the kernel image, right?02:49
raptoidhelp me help me02:49
raptoidwhat install tar.gz for ubuntu ?02:49
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Seveasraptoid, what do you mean??02:50
raptoidinstall tar.gz ?02:50
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raptoidubuntu02:50
_konradthanks god, Google know everything (but have to know its way of thinking : )02:50
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jaysinmaybe he means how can he install?02:50
_konradroblem with nvidia solved: sudo ln -sf /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so.1.0.7174 /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a02:51
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_konradwhy nvidia-glx don't do this?02:51
Seveasraptoid, tar zxvf file.tar.gz02:51
Seveasthen cd into the folder it created02:51
raptoidbinary ?02:51
Seveasand run ./configure && make && sudo checkinstall02:51
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raptoidSeveas, thanks02:52
berkesodd, there is no transcoe, in my ubuntu sources02:52
_konradand I have another question about dpkg/atp - how to reinstall package to make it thinks, that it is firtst installation?02:52
jaysinhow can i get the sims 2 to work with wine?02:52
hondjeberkes: not in binaries, only in apt-get source02:52
berkesah02:52
Seveas_konrad, aptitude purge $package && aptitude install $package02:52
_konradSeveas: what if package is essential? can be removed?02:53
hondjeberkes: the problem is that it has deps that aren't in ubuntu repositories02:53
_konradlike xorg-xserver02:53
Seveas_konrad, maybe aptitude reinstall will do the same then...02:53
Pithlitanyone cna help me solve this: Fatal: raid_setup: stat("/dev/hda") ?02:53
berkeshondje: its not found at all02:53
_konradSeveas: unfortunatelly, it don't :(02:53
Seveas_konrad, why do you want to let it think it's the first install?02:53
mhzhondje, hmmm, will firestarter run default when rebooting in init:3  ?02:53
hondjeberkes: apt-get source transcode doesn't work?02:53
Seveasmessed up configuration?02:53
hondjemhz: I don't know, it daemonized itself during configuration I think02:54
_konradSeveas: i removed one file (no matter what) and after reinstallig (dpkg -i, aptitude etc) file was still removed!02:54
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berkesnope, not found02:54
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fabianhello everybody02:54
mhzhondje, so you are not currently using it?02:54
hondjeberkes: do you have multiverse?02:54
hondjeI am02:54
Seveas_konrad, which file? I can send it to you if you want...02:54
_konradSeveas: to install all files as "fresh" ones - turn off "is it upgrade" detection02:54
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fabianI'm not sure, if this is the right place, but I need some help with my ubuntu system02:55
_konradSeveas: I used "mc" to brose deb :)02:55
mhzhondje, ah, but you did not start it manually after rebooting and loged in in GUI, right?02:55
berkeshondje: yes02:55
hondjemhz: No, but I boot into runlevel 202:55
hondjeberkes: odd, let me check02:55
mhzfabian, it's a place02:55
_konradSeveas: I think it is missing feature or after 3 yeras with Debian I haven't noticed it :D02:55
Pithlitnoone?02:56
Pithlit*sigh*02:56
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MistaEDhey quick question, i just need help exporting libs for maya, the bin can't find them....02:56
Seveas_konrad, well, reinstall should recreate the missing file iirc02:56
_konradSeveas: everytime I'm here (even on "weird" times) you are here - are you working for ububtu?02:56
fabianmhz: well, first: I'm really new to linux, so don't expect any help from myself! :D02:56
mhzfabbione, np02:57
Seveas_kevin, no, i'm just a community member02:57
MistaEDwhat could be a command combo? like export_lib=/usr/aw/maya/lib or something?02:57
mhzfabian, np02:57
_konradSeveas: it should. but I have another experience (I was mostly using aptitude and "L" command)02:57
mhzfabian, these instances are open because you're welcome02:57
Seveas_konrad, which file are you missing? I can send it to you if you want...02:57
mhzfabian, as long you respect the participants opinions02:57
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_konradSeveas: great work you do! thanks02:58
Pithlitdf -h02:58
Pithlitblah02:58
fabianmhz: I installed my system yesterday at a Linux-Day at my university. So they helped me with everything.02:58
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mhzfabian, cool!02:58
fabianmhz: i got two problems now02:58
mhz:(02:58
fabianmhz: 1. the easier one! ;)02:58
_konradSeveas:I managed with this with package.debian.org file search (package .ubuntu.com file search don't work correctly), downloaded deb and unpaked it with "mc" - thanks for your help02:58
hondje_konrad: what is mc?02:59
fabianmhz: wlan card: It worked properly yesterday. All the drivers are installed. BUT: They somehow forgot, to let it activate everytime i restart my system. how can i do that?02:59
Seveashondje, midnight commander, a great curses-based filemanager03:00
_konradhondje: don;t you know? Midnight Commander - unfortunatetly don't supprort UTF, so I need to use ISO03:00
_konradhondje: something like Norton Commander for DOS03:00
hondjeoh03:00
hondjeI know that mc, I thought it was something instead of using ar -x03:00
mhzfabian, I never used wlan or similar, but i assume they are set as any other interface in /etc/network/interfaces03:00
james__Does anyone have any problems with GNOME Baker. It keeps on failing mid-burn? WHat other apps can Iget to burn audio CD's?03:01
_konradhondje: :D I don't like command-line "compressors"03:01
hondjenot even tar?03:01
Seveasjames__, graveman?03:01
Seveasor k3b (kde prog)03:01
_konradhondje: tar is OK, but only for simple things03:01
mhzfabian, so, in a command terminal (hmmmm, there must be another GUI to do this in you rboc, probably), type:   sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces03:02
hondjeI use it for tons of stuff03:02
Guybrush|Numb<_konrad> hondje: tar is OK, but only for simple things <- that's a BOLD one03:02
hondjelike when you want to scp a bunch of files in a tree03:02
_konradhondje: after many experience with menoder/mplayer I have head full of command-line switches03:02
mhzfabian, sorry ... rboc = box03:02
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james__Seveas, Will k3b mean lots of extra dependencies, as I'm in GNOME03:02
Seveasjames__, yes03:02
hondjetar, cpio...these are the good things ;-)03:02
xoz!depends k3b03:03
_konradGuybrush|Numb: I only use command-line tar to unpack file, for paking I have right-mouse menu in KDE :)03:03
Seveasjames__, it wound meen 103 mb of downloads...03:03
mhzfabian, most likely, you'll se a line referring to wlan03:03
hondjeI never tried a gui archiver03:03
fabianmzh: done.... what should i edit now?03:03
Seveasjames__, it wound meen 103 mb of diskspace, 36 MB downloads03:03
Guybrush|Numbi think i never used a graphic compressor in linux :)03:03
hondjeclick and drag does sound easier03:03
_konradand I have bad experience with tar - I lost 1000 + mails, becouse it wasn't add hidden files (.*)03:03
Guybrush|Numband slower03:03
mhzfabian, if so, add a line:  auto wlan (I suppose)03:04
Razor-Xgood night, good morning ,whatever03:04
_konradhave you tried KDE?03:04
Razor-Xthey're all homologous to me03:04
mhzfabian, above the line you currently see referring to wlan03:04
fabianmhz: it sais : auto wlan003:04
james__ok, may as  well eh, whats the point in lots of emtpy disk space / unused bandwidth!03:04
_konradright click - and I can have zip, tar.gz, tar.bz2 etc...03:04
hondjejames__: to have in case you need it?03:04
mhzfabian, ohh, then it is trying to set it when reboots everytime03:04
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fabianmhz: it sais also: iface wlan0 inet dhcp03:05
mhzfabian, close 'nano' editor by pressing: Ctrl+x03:05
deviantanyone encounterd problems installing g++-3.4_3.4.3-9ubuntu4_i386.deb ?!?03:05
mhzfabian, ohhh, then it is trying to get an IP from a "server203:05
fabianmhz: and: wireless-essid public (both directly above "auto wlan0"03:05
mhzfabian, ohhh, then it is trying to get an IP from a "server"03:05
_konradto do not make misundertand - I like command line, I always use wget, command line mencoder, but tar is to sophisticated03:06
Seveasdeviant, why are you installing debs instead of using apt-get?03:06
deviantSeveas: cuz apt gives me errors03:06
hondjeI find tar easier than mencoder03:06
Seveasdeviant, which errors?03:06
Razor-X_konrad: mencoder is easier than tar?03:06
_konradSeveas: do you rememberr nvidia problem? this hels sudo ln -sf /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so.1.0.7174 /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a03:06
Razor-Xare you out of your mind?!03:06
hondjecpio can get rough though03:06
mhzfabian, do you have a "server" in you rhouse?03:06
fabianmhz: i only use wlan at my uni, and there the net is called public. Is that where wireless-essid public refers to?03:07
_konradmencoder is very easy form me - I have been translating manual to Polish :)03:07
james__hondje - yeah man, and I need it now! I've skiped in the past and now its time for some luxuries. lol...03:07
mhzfabian, are WLANs usually set to get an IP dynamically from anywhere ?? (never used wlans)03:07
hondjejames__: hehe03:07
Seveasmhz, almost always...03:07
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fabianmhz: depends on what you want! But in my uni they get IP dynamically03:07
mhzSeveas, oh, no idea03:07
deviantSeveas: md5sum errors03:08
_konradhondje, Razor-X: I've nerer read tar manual :P mencoder I used for everything from grabbing TV-source to DVD-rip03:08
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mhzfabian, there, I suppose is good ide03:08
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mhzfabian, there, I suppose is good idea03:08
hondje_konrad: ever try the nvidia installer with either --no-recursion or --force-tls=[tls type]  ?03:08
geetergodCan someone in here help me with my sound?03:08
_konradhondje: I fall back to DEBs03:08
Seveasdeviant, do you use us.archive.ubuntu.com or ca.archive.ubuntu.com?03:08
amir__there's a single kernel option i want to enable, which is not in the default config of my kernel. what is the simplest way to recompile a kernel with a few modifications in ubuntu?03:08
hondjeokie03:08
mhzSeveas, so maybe you could help fabian lot betta than me03:08
_konradhondje: with this option it was error too03:08
Seveasamir__, apt-get install kernel-source make-kpkg03:08
Razor-Xwhenever I try and apt-get ftpd... the md5sum doesen't pass...03:08
fabianmhz: btw: why do I see your writing in red? is that some option in here?03:09
amir__seveas, thanks03:09
Seveasand use make-kpkg to make a new kernel package03:09
_konradI'll wait for nvidia update for breeze03:09
Razor-Xis it just trouble with us.ubuntu?03:09
Seveasfabian, now you see me in red too ;)03:09
Seveasfabian, it's because your name is in these lines03:09
mhzfabian, usually, you can set your Chat application. my case, I use XChat03:09
SeveasRazor-X, yes03:09
fabianSeveas, ah, i see03:09
Seveasus.archive /ca.archive are broken03:09
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Razor-XSeveas: hmmm, ok :(03:10
fabianmhz, I use xchat too! ;)03:10
deviantSeveas: that will be us.archive.ubuntu.com03:10
Razor-Xi'll use uk.archive in the meantime03:10
mhzfabian, and, also i am starting sentences with your name so they'd get highlighted in your screen03:10
amir__seveas, i see there's a linux-patch-ubuntu-2.6.10 package.. should i use that as well somehow? i want to create an exact replica of the binary kernel im using now, with a single option modified..03:10
Seveasdeviant, stop using us.archive for now, simply use archive.ubuntu.com03:10
marinhey, thanks boys. It seems that works with xine03:10
fabianSeveas, mhz, so what about my wlan then?03:10
deviantSeveas: just archive? nu .us or .ca ?03:11
Seveasamir__, if you apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r) you get all these things, they are in the same source package03:11
mhzfabian, in my small knowledge base, I assume your wlan is searching for an IP which can't get :)03:11
hondjeSeveas: you handy w/ hardware?03:11
Seveasdeviant, indeed, just deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main03:11
Seveasetc...03:11
amir__seveas, oh, gotchya. thanks again.03:11
Seveashondje, a bit03:11
fabianmhz, so in my uni, it would work then?03:11
Seveasfabian, dunno about your wlan, what;s the problem?03:11
hondjeSeveas: mind if I msg you 5 lines from my logs?03:12
Seveashondje, be my guest03:12
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fabianSeveas, i THINK it doesn't work, but I'm not sure anymore... ;)03:12
Seveasfabian, what is the encryption of the wlan?03:12
mhzfabian, yes, if it worked yesterday and it has 'auto wlan0' in /interfaces, yes03:12
geetergodCan someone help me with my sound please?03:12
fabianSeveas, what is encryption?????03:12
deviantSeveas: where can i past to you an error, to look at it ?03:13
Seveasdeviant, use ubuntu.pastebin.com (or a private message)O03:13
mhzgeetergod, i'd like to but i am not sure I'll be any helpt to you (my hardware/sound knowledge is zero. anyways, shoot03:13
Seveasgeetergod, read the topic: just ask. If someone can help you, you will be helped03:14
mhzdeviant, usually, in chats, you type /query the_nick_you_want_to_chat_with03:14
geetergodmhz, I got a new 7.1 sound card last night and my surround and center speakers still wont work... but in the process of trying to figure it out i managed to kill the sound all together...03:14
deviantmhz: i know that, but i think is best to ask 1st03:14
mhzdeviant, good point! it's more polite03:15
geetergodWhen i type 'esd' in a command line i get '/dev/dsp: Device or resource busy03:15
geetergod'03:15
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mhzgeetergod, :( No idea at all :)03:15
geetergodhm...03:15
mhzsorry03:15
fabianSeveas, what did you mean with: "what is the encryption of the wlan"???03:15
geetergodis there anyway to restart the whole sound thing?03:16
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SeveasFabian, do you need to use WEP/WPA or something else?03:16
deviantcan you guys recomend me a dc++ client ?03:16
mhzgeetergod, AFAIK, there at least 3 deamons/systems that can control your sound... ALSA, OSS, eSound, etc03:16
FabianSeveas, talk in englisch please! ;) Sorry, I'm absolutely new. What is WEP/WPA?03:17
Seveasdeviant, valknut (package dcgui-qt) seems to be used a lot03:17
mhzgeetergod, you may try with one of those and see what happens03:17
geetergodWhen i try to play a song in xmms i get "Please check that: Your soundcard is configured properly. You have the correct plugin selected and No other program is blocking the soundcard.03:17
mhzgeetergod, now, HOW? no idea03:17
geetergodi tried ALSA and OSS03:17
mhzgeetergod, I would have done the same you did :)03:17
mhzbut everytiemi get to those issues I never succedded03:18
geetergodHow do i check if theres another program blocking the soundcard?03:18
deviantSeveas: it can be installed by apt ?03:18
Seveasdeviant, yes03:18
deviantSeveas: ok03:18
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blackgibsongeetergod: Has sound ever worked? and if not, did you google your soundcard to see if it is supported by alsa or oss?03:19
geetergodblackgibson, yes it did work last night before someone tried "helping" me get the surround to work, i also have a black gibson, if you mean guitar.03:19
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itayhey? guys?03:20
blackgibsonGreetergod: Odd that. and yes, a Explorer03:20
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geetergodblackgibson, cool, i have a couple les pauls03:21
FabianSeveas, just googled WEP and WPA.... I don't know if I need that. In windows you just connect to the wlan net an start vpn then03:21
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blackgibsonGreetergod: my other guitars are fenders & ibanezes ;)03:21
itayi was wondering where i can get some help about troubleshooting startup problems with ubuntu, it just doesn't load anymore..03:21
FabianSeveas, I got vpnc installed at it works fine03:21
SeveasFabian, aha. Given that you need a VPN, you will probably not need wep or wpa03:21
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geetergodblackgibson, yah i also have a telecaster and an esp and a couple acoustics, still wish my sound worked :)03:22
FabianSeveas, very well then.... So I'll try that wlan on monday03:22
blackgibsonGreetergod: My obvious advice would be to undo what was done to make surround work and cross your fingers. sorry i dont have anything more constructive to say. I have never had a sound problem in my years of linuxing. Lucky i guess03:22
FabianSeveas, If it just searches for an IP adress, (as mhz said) it should work as soon as it finds that "public" net. Right?03:23
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co_ubuntuhello every body03:23
SeveasFabian, well, yes03:23
co_ubuntuI just use UBUNTU03:23
FingertipsSeveas, do you knwo how to edit the wine config so i can play starcraft w/o a cdrom error03:23
geetergodblackgibson, i went into Volume Control and did something with Multi Track Internal Clock03:23
co_ubuntuwhat's default password for root?03:23
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co_ubuntubecause I can't login for root03:24
co_ubuntuplease...03:24
Morten^Toftsame password as the normal user03:24
Morten^Toftif you only created one03:24
Seveasco_ubuntu: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo03:24
Seveasthere is no root password...03:24
geetergodblackgibson, can you go to you volume control and Edit, Pref, and see what your Multi Track Clock # is?03:24
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SeveasFingertips, ENOCLUE, i never used starcraft03:24
blackgibsongreetergod: I have never seen that setting. It may be specific to your sound hardware03:25
co_ubuntuthank you03:25
co_ubuntubut I can't change screen resolution03:25
geetergodblackgibson, its in ALSA sound03:25
Seveasco_ubuntu: To find out ho you can change your dispplay's resolution, go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto03:25
co_ubuntuhow to change screen resolution? If I don't have root user03:25
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co_ubuntuthank you for your all help03:26
Seveasco_ubuntu, go to the page i just mentioned...03:26
FabianSeveas, alright. So second problem: The hard part!03:26
saruanyhello03:26
FingertipsSeveas, can you install ati drivers on ubuntu03:26
DR_K13HIHI03:26
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co_ubuntuthank you03:26
saruanythanx for saying hi to me03:26
SeveasFingertips, they are in the linux-restricted-modules package03:26
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FabianSeveas, Fingertips that's exactly my secont problem03:26
Fingertips?03:26
blackgibsongreetergod: Right, the options in Volume Control ( or at least my mixer ) change depending on what hardware you have. i dont see it here03:26
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itayi was wondering where i can get some help about troubleshooting startup problems with ubuntu, it just doesn't load anymore..03:26
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blackgibsongreetergod: Im using a SB Live 5.1 for reference03:27
SeveasFingertips, sudo apt-get install linux-686 (intel processor) or linux-k7 (amd processor)03:27
saruanyany girls want to talk03:27
Seveasthat will install the driver03:27
FabianSeveas, i don't have to use the drivers provided by ati?03:27
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FingertipsSeveas, what if im using an AMD barton, shouldnt that be the same as an intel03:27
SeveasFabian, these are the drivers provided by ati03:27
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geetergodblackgibson, im trying OSS mixer now with no results03:27
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SeveasFingertips, K703:28
FingertipsSeveas, ok...03:28
FabianSeveas, for any amd?03:28
jayeolahi guys. has anyone used a pci controller card with the it8212 chipset?03:28
SeveasFabian,Fingertips: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto03:28
SeveasFabian, for anythin that is K7 or newer03:28
Seveasotherwise you need the linux-386 package03:28
saruanyany females he girls03:28
FabianSeveas, I bought it in october 04 so k7 right?03:29
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Seveassaruany, please go to a more appropriate channel for that...03:29
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SeveasFabian, definitely03:29
saruanyany person here that is not a computer geek03:29
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Seveassaruany: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct03:29
saruanyhey seveas FUCK YOU BITCH03:30
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blackgibsonGreetergod: This is how i understand it. ALSA is now default in the linux kernel, so if your card is supported by ALSA, that is what it will be using.There is a OSS Compatability Layer for ALSA, which is why OSS mixer works even if you are using ALSA. I say this cause if you have a ALSA card and ALSA is causing your problems, fucking with OSS mixer isnt gonna help.03:30
FabianSeveas, these drivers work with 3d acceleration? for games etc?03:30
SeveasFabian, yes03:30
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toresbeuhm03:31
geetergodblackgibson, how can i just make it so im using 1?03:31
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geetergodblackgibson, or how do i configure my soundcard?03:32
blackgibsonGreetergod: IIRC, it will only use OOS Compatiablity if you use a program that reguires ALSA03:32
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FabianSeveas, It sais something of NVidia. but I don't have NVidia! I got Ati Radeon 9200 Mobility03:32
JormundgandHmm. What the hell is going on? I try to access the network and it pops up a dialog box saying "you need to log onto jormundgand@ketsuban domain WARREN" and nothing I type for the password seems to work.03:32
vothis there any other way to check which driver ubuntu is using other thatn cat /proc/driver/blah, for some reason this installation I know is using a ati based driver by there is no /proc/driver/ati <- guess on my system03:32
geetergodblackgibson, its geetergod not greetergod :)03:32
SeveasFabian, that page has ati instructions too03:32
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Seveasvoth, lsmod lists loaded kernel modules, that might help03:33
geetergodblackgibson, its saying ALSA device "default" is already in use by another program.03:34
blackgibsongeetergod: heh, sorry, only been up for 30 minuites or so03:34
FabianSeveas, I'll have a go03:34
Fabiancu later03:34
geetergodblackgibson, me too heh03:34
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geetergodblackgibson, now how do i kill another program that it could be open in?03:34
blackgibsongeetergod: well then, that is a clue isnt it? what else do you have running?03:34
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guesthello all........I'm the new on UBUNTU...anyone can help me pls..^^03:34
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geetergodblackgibson, i have this chat running, thats all03:35
Seveasguest, read the topic please: just ask questions03:35
vothSeveas, under drm it shows radeon (then again, not sure i'm reading the output correctly)03:35
blackgibsongeetergod: open a termnial and type " ps -ux " ( without the quotations of course )03:35
blackgibsongeetergod: that will list all the programs you are running03:35
guestsory all....cause I really start this session for 1st03:35
jayeoladoes anyone use a pci controller card here?03:36
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geetergodblackgibson, the top line says "Warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See http://procps.sf.net/faq.html03:36
geetergod"03:36
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blackgibsongeetergod: works dandy for me03:37
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foresterI am wondering... does someone make a smallish display which is well supported by Linux and FreeBSD. It only has to do text...03:38
Fingertipshas anybody had starcraft work successfully on wine? i always get a cd missing error03:39
foresterI'd love to pay 100 or 200 bucks for a little lcd to connect to boxes.03:39
geetergodblackgibson, heres what i get http://pastebin.com/29890003:39
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geetergodblackgibson, thats when i did ps -ux and -aux03:39
foresterFingertips: That sounds like a good web search.03:39
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Ycrosfonsken: smaller ones tend to be more expensive :E03:39
foresterYcros: Not "tiny"03:40
foresterYcros: smallish :p03:40
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foresterthere is a medium ground between tiny and large which I have always found is cheapest of all.03:40
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foresterIn thi sday, I suspect what I am looking for is specialized and perhaps targetted to administrators/hackers.03:41
foresterBecause no one makes like an 8 inch lcd or something.03:41
foresterThey make tiny or large.03:41
foresterSo, I ask.03:41
Seveasforester, have you looked at thinkgeek?03:41
foresterI will03:41
CarlFKforester - you want a little LCD display - there are some out there03:42
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CarlFKgeetergod - get your 5.1 sound working?03:43
foresterHmm..03:43
forestertake a digital photo display and connect it to a linux box... i wonder..03:43
geetergodCarlFK, no sir, now i have no sound, says the sounds being used in another program03:43
hondjeforester: sony did that and made /.03:43
hondjethen again, I made /.03:43
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foresterwhat for?03:44
hondjeMy uncle dying03:44
foresterwho's that?03:44
hondjeNo one famous03:44
foresterwhy was it on slashdot?03:44
hondjeBut the NYT did a piece on what happens to your data when you die (and painted me as a n00b)03:44
CarlFKforester - how is this: http://linuxfocus.org/English/July2000/article165.shtml03:44
hondjeit was half interviews w/ me, on how losing data sucks, and half w/ a data recovery dude03:45
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hondjenothing grand03:45
foresterCarlFK: not quite right...03:45
foresterI wanted a small display, multiple lines.03:45
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foresterYou know, like maybe 80x25 characters.03:45
foresterMaybe an 5-10 inch lcd monitor.03:45
foresteror something better/more specializeds03:46
TokenBadI am so confused about sound on this system...it works for the computer system...when it boots and shuts down..and it works for like cd audio..and stuff like that..but when try to play a game in cedega it says unable to init base sound services03:46
forestera fast led with room for 80x25 characters might be interesting if it had linux console support03:46
CarlFKforester - what abould old 486ish laptops?03:47
SeveasCarlFK, you need a video-in...03:47
JormundgandNow, where do I get Breezy support, since you lot are so dead-set against it and are so convinced installing it will make your system explode.03:47
foresterThey have the kind of thing I would like to see in standlone form, sure.03:47
foresterSo do large digital picture frames I suppose.03:47
Seveasor a serial cable and serial terminal connection :)03:47
CarlFKSeveas - "I" don't need squat ;)03:47
SeveasCarlFK, ack ;)03:47
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djm62Jormundgand: breezy is unsupported....I guess you could pay someone03:48
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james__RythmBox wont let me edit mp3 tags? Is this normal?03:49
hondjeJormundgand: either people are newbies and can't help with ugly problems like you'd find in breezy, or grumpy and think if you run it, you should know enough to do it. Did you check #ubuntu-devel ?03:49
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Morten^Toftis the wxvlc_0.8.1-1ubuntu7_i386.deb package in the repositary corrupted ?03:50
Jormundgandhondje: My problem doesn't seem too ugly - it's just that it asks me for a password when I open the network servers window and I have no idea what to do then.03:50
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foresterLittle portable dvd player screens might work03:50
foresterI think someone should do this..03:50
Morten^Tofti get a MD5Sum mismatch error03:50
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hondjeJormundgand: does it take your smbpasswd?03:50
foresterI think sys admins and/or hackers with many boxes would find it convenient.03:50
Jormundgandhondje: I don't HAVE a smbpasswd.03:50
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hondjeI use nfs on everything03:51
bleckhello, does anyone know how to change the default port of the vnc remote desktop server?03:51
jeroen_Jormundgand, windows clients who try to connect to you need a password, while you haven't set a password?03:51
jeroen_Jormundgand, I have the same problem :(03:51
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Jormundgandjeroen_: No, I'm trying to view the network servers window, and it's asking for a password from me but there's nothing on the network but me so I don't know what to do.03:52
JormundgandAll Windows shares should be in the Windows shares folder.03:52
hondjeJormundgand: did you try yours?03:52
JormundgandYes.03:52
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hondjebut if it makes you feel better, I can't get lm-sensors working after 5 years03:53
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lsuactiafnererr03:54
lsuactiafnerwhats the problem?03:54
lsuactiafnermount -t smbfs //ip/share /mnt/mount_point03:54
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Jormundgandlsuactiafner: http://ketsuban.net/images/stuff/Screenshot-Authentication%20Required.png03:56
CarlFKgeetergod - I found this: http://www.calel.cl/pci-devices/alsa-device-list.html  which let me to: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Ensoniq&card=Soundscape.&chip=&module=ice1724#opt03:56
JormundgandAnd that's just from accessing the Network Servers window. (There's no other Linux servers on the network, so that should only have me on it.)03:56
CarlFKbleck...  590003:56
geetergodCarlFK, nice03:56
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DeathWinghello people03:57
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TokenBadanyone have idea on sound issue?03:57
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fr500Jormundgand, what is the problem?03:57
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Jormundgandfr500: http://ketsuban.net/images/stuff/Screenshot-Authentication%20Required.png - when I try to access the Network Shares window it throws that up and I have no idea what to do.03:58
TokenBadwho here uses cedega?03:59
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JormundgandNevermind, fixed it.04:01
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lsuactiafnerwhat was up?04:01
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lsuactiafneri didnt get the question, just saw share..04:01
DeathWinghey guys where do i change the time settings to display 12 hours04:01
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Jormundgandlsuactiafner: I made a Samba password for myself and it took it.04:02
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djm62DeathWing: right-click->preferences04:02
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TokenBadwhat codec is needed for playing mp3's on ubuntu?04:03
DeathWingoh so there it, thank you djm6204:03
Jormundgandnasr, what are you on about?04:03
soulflyHi all. I want to use the nptl in libc.  Is it safe to switch to breezy or should I rather try to enable this in hoary?  Is that even possible without major work?04:03
fr500Jormundgand, sometimes windows needs some punishment to allow04:04
Jormundgandfr500: Indeed.04:04
nasri want girlfriend04:04
DeathWingthis is great i thought i couldnt right click on it, hehehe i really need to explore04:04
Jormundgandnasr: We don't always want what we get. :( Try beer.04:04
hondjenasr: You're in the wrong place to find one04:04
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Jormundgands/want what we get/get what we want/04:04
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soulflyoh. judging by the discussion I might be in the wrong channel for my question.  :)    peace04:05
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lsuactiafnerlol04:06
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lsuactiafnerhondje : where did you buy here?04:06
Jormundgandsoulfly: Breezy is fairly safe. There's a symlink problem you need to correct when you first switch but it's pretty okay after that.04:06
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hondjelsuactiafner: online, of course04:06
hondjeOn the downside, our daughter is crazy04:06
DanielNhow can i handle the tun0 interface?04:06
lsuactiafnerlol04:06
soulflyhondje: is nptl on by default in hoarY?04:06
hondjesoulfly: I don't know, but I was hit by a bug in a commercial pkg I use that's blamed on nptl, so I guessed it was04:07
soulflyJormundgand: how "instable" is breezy.   Like debian unstable?  (which i'm used to)04:07
Jormundgandsoulfly: IMO stable. Hasn't crashed yet.04:07
hondjemore like debian experimental04:07
DeathWingwow, ubuntu is really stable04:07
soulfly:-)04:07
DeathWingthe most stable distro ive used04:08
JormundgandThere's constant package problems - nvidia-glx currently has an outdated dependency meaning it can't be installed.04:08
DeathWingwell ive only used 4 lol04:08
ana150what's wrong with that nasr? :D04:08
hondjeDeathWing: Try debian hehe04:08
JormundgandBut the packages themselves are stable.04:08
soulflybut debian experimental hasn't ever been complete for me.. it's just "some packages waiting for unstable"04:08
DeathWingwell ok, i have one partition left i could install debian there04:08
soulflyhondje, Jormundgand : thanks for the help04:09
DeathWinghondhe04:09
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hondjeDeathWing: You should give it a spin sometime04:10
hondjenot as fancy as ubuntu, but built like a tank04:10
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soulflyhondje: are you using i386 or compat?04:10
DeathWingyeah hondje, they say debian is stable but not so friendly04:10
hondjeyeah04:10
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hondjeDeathWing: if you can use apt w/out synaptic, you can use debian04:11
hondjesoulfly: yes04:11
DeathWingyeah hondje sure04:11
hondjeSerious, DeathWing04:11
hondjeLinux is linux is linux04:11
DeathWingill give it a try04:11
hondjeslack and gentoo are a little different, but the rest are fairly standard04:11
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DeathWingim currently using, mandrake, fedora and suse but ubuntu the best ive seen04:12
hondjeAll have their plusses and minuses04:13
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hondjelike fedora has all the 'cool' toys for the kids who love new stuff, suse is the shit on a laptop, mandrake is nice and friendly, etc04:14
DeathWingyeah ofcourse hondje, and if i have problems i can always google for help04:14
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hondjeyeah, google was made for linux04:15
ana150DeathWing: except if you google, you have to speak 0111001104:15
blackgibsonhondje: I dunno, im a "all the cool toys" kind of guy and I convereted from Fedora to Ubuntu04:15
ana150i mean that usually those helps are too hard to do for beginners04:15
martinjh99All my printouts are getting cut off at the top and bottom of the page - The headers and footers aren't getting printed but cut off half way.  What can I do to change the default papersize to A4?04:16
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DeathWingana150, lol, hondje mandrakes nice but not as stable as ubuntu04:16
hondjeblackgibson: dont take the fun out of pigeonholing distros :(04:16
magoganyone get enlightenmtent dr17 working? i tried that link in the forums but couldent get it to work for me04:16
ana150DeathWing: but don't you agree?04:16
hondjemagog: yes04:16
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hondjesoulfly: yeah, same here04:17
hondjeI got tired of running sid and waiting for sarge to come out04:17
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ana150how you can convert debian?04:17
blackgibsonI just got sick of RPM04:17
hondjeRPM sucks04:17
blackgibsonUbuntu is the first non RPm distro ive stayed on for more than a month04:17
DeathWinganal150 : well yeah, but i must admit, it helped me alot04:17
hondjemost of that is lack of unified pkg management like deb/ub have04:17
blackgibsoni cant see myself leaving it any time soon04:17
soulflyblackgibson: take a deep breath.. in here.. your safe from rpm.. they'll not harm you04:18
ana150DeathWing: well it sure does help when you find some good pages, but at first it was useless04:18
hondjeubuntu works for me...debian underneath, so I'm happy and stable, new stuff on top, so I'm having fun04:18
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martinjh99All my printouts are getting cut off at the top and bottom of the page - The headers and footers aren't getting printed but cut off half way.  What can I do to change the default papersize to A4?04:18
hondjeyeah, and man pages are useless for newbies04:18
magoghondje, how did you get enlightenment goin?04:18
soulflyhondje: are you on breezy or hoary?04:19
hondjemagog: downloaded it from cvs and built it, hoary04:19
CarlFKmartinjh99 - weird. my papser size defaults to A4 and I am in the US04:19
magoghondje, k, thats what imma do04:19
DeathWingana150 : well, we just have to be resourceful, speaking of resourceful? huh i dont believe it came from me! lol04:19
hondjemagog: you're hip to downloading dev libs?04:19
martinjh99I have set A4 in Firefox for eg and its still getting cut off at the top and bottom... ;)  Somewhere there is a setting thats not set for a4...04:20
magoghondje, well its too nice...i must have04:20
hondjethe configure scripts detect everything, so no need to pass options to them04:20
CarlFKmartinjh99 - in the printer setup04:20
ana150how easy is it to get wlan working with ubuntu and gentoo?, i found out that kubuntu has somekind of wlan support includet at start, but do i have to download something for ubuntu to get it work?04:20
magogso yea im gonna have to compile alot04:20
hondjemagog: it's not that bad to build04:20
magog13 or sokmething right?04:20
DeathWingana150: do u have a webcam and if u do does ubuntu support it04:20
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blackgibsonsoulfly: Deb just wasnt nice enough to get me over the brain damages of the other deb baided distros ive used in the past. Ubuntu is the first deb distro ive been comfy with..mind you, alot of that has to do with more up to date packages04:20
hondjewhen you hit a 'missing libfoobar', just apt-cache search foobar and find it, and go again04:20
magogcool04:20
CarlFKana150 - for the most part, the installer finds  your wifi card and sets it up04:21
martinjh99CarlFK>Set to A4 in the properties...04:21
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CarlFKmartinjh99 - then I du no.04:21
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TokenBadwell I give up...still no sound in cedega04:21
martinjh99Hey no worries mate I'll find out how to fix it sooner or later!04:21
hondjeTokenBad: did you killall esd?04:21
ana150CarlFK: ok thanks, that helps me a lot if im going to install it to my sisters pc04:21
TokenBadI went and edited a file like one site said04:22
TokenBadlogged out and logged back in04:22
soulflyblackgibson:  I understand. Ubuntu is the first deb dist (haven't looked at MEPIS) I can comfortably recommend to relative newbies :)04:22
ana150DeathWing: no, i don't have a webcam, and i don't even wan't to04:22
TokenBadtried to pick oss04:22
TokenBadand test it04:22
DeathWinghuh ok04:22
mp_ndiswrapper problems: ndiswrapper -l returns: "Prisma02 invalid driver!"04:22
mp_??04:23
hondjeI can't recommed ubuntu to real newbies who aren't computer-inclined04:23
blackgibsonsoulfly: im not a newb, but i dont use linux for anything more fancy than a desktop, so you know.. i tend to have newbish needs in some ways ;)04:23
TokenBadthen it says failed to construct test pipeline or something like that04:23
Mezhondje - thats what we hope to change sith the UNP04:23
darkdo you have a prism 2 card mp_?04:23
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TokenBadhow do you do killall esd?04:23
hondjeMez: UNP?04:24
martinjh99type killall esd at a terminal!04:24
mp_dark: yea, it is a dwl-g122 - i d'loaded the latest driver04:24
hondjeOh, I thought of something nice to have in breezy04:24
mp_dark: and follwoed http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php/Ubuntu04:24
hondjesince we're all sudo-fied and anti-terminal04:24
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soulflyblackgibson: I see.  I'm trying to optimize HL2 performance on my ubuntu dist :)04:24
hondjeon apps that aren't yours, you can't delete through nautilus...how about it pops up a gksudo box if you try?04:24
Mezhondje, the Ubuntu Newbie Project04:25
darki think you should be using native drivers and not ndiswrapper04:25
hondjeMez: ah, link ?04:25
goye2czin a terminal, how do I switch to the Desktop?04:25
mp_dark: ok?04:25
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mp_dark: any hints?04:25
darkif you have a real prism card. i think the ones for prism are... hold on let me check04:25
blackgibsonsoulfly: i dont even want to know. Im already cringing ;)04:25
hondjegoye2cz: ctrl-alt-f704:25
hondjeblackgibson: I'm in your alley04:25
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Mezhondje - http://www.ubbuntu.com/wiki/UbuntuNewbie04:25
Mezhondje - http://www.ubuntu.com/wiki/UbuntuNewbie *04:26
goye2czhondje: didn't seem to do anything.04:26
hondjeI'm not an IT guy, or computer-saavy, I just want a desktop04:26
blackgibsonUT2004 is gooe enough for me04:26
Mezstill in the "thinking" stages04:26
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mp_dark: FYI: it was not recogniused during install by hardware detect04:26
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goye2czhondje: I mean switch to the directory Desktop.04:26
hondjegoye2cz: what do you mean terminal?04:26
darkmp_: just for kicks what laptop do you have, brand and model04:26
hondjegoye2cz: oh, cd $HOME/Desktop04:26
goye2czwell, I'm working on installing my us122.04:26
blackgibsonhondje: I monley around with all sorts of stuff.. have had webservers and shoutcasts and all manner of geekness up an running, but it really comes back to having a comfy desktop for me04:26
mp_dark: omnibook 4150 (an oldtimer)04:27
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blackgibsonmonkey even04:27
hondjeblackgibson: see, way above me :)04:27
darkmp_: ahh just wondering, mine had a problem where it wouldnt find pcmcia/carbus cards until i did a couple things04:27
hondjein 2000 windows wouldn't reinstall on my computer, so I bought mandrake since it was half the cost, stayed linux ever since because I like it better.....I'm certainly not a computer guru though :(04:27
darkmp_: my hp zv500004:27
mp_dark: dwl-g122 is USB04:27
darkmp_: ahh, hmm i guess it would still use prism drivers04:28
Kano_Ubuntuwhere is the repository for mc?04:28
goye2czhondje: it says no such file or dir.04:28
Kano_Ubuntui cant live without it...04:28
hondjegoye2cz: pwd, paste what it says04:28
rommerwhat is shorthand for byte?04:28
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soulflyJormundgand: I guess you don't run any of these programs? http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UniverseCxxTransition04:28
Kano_Ubuntuuniverse?04:28
martinjh99Kano>Universe just installing it to check for ya!04:28
hondjeB?04:28
rommerhondje: b is then shorthand for bit?04:29
hondjeMez: good deal man04:29
blackgibsonI started on linux cause i had a crap ass 486 that i was trying to squeeze ever MIPS out if i could04:29
Kano_Ubuntujust testing my scripts on ubuntu, x preconfig is not really good...04:29
hondjerommer: I think so, yeah04:29
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Mezhondje - I sope so04:29
goye2czhondje: /home/goye2cz04:29
darkmp_: im looking around on the ubuntu forums :x04:29
hondjegoye2cz: okay, cd Desktop04:29
mp_dark: cool!04:29
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goye2czhondje: it's always easier than I'm trying to make it *sigh*04:30
xirtamwhat is the sources.list entry for latest ubuntu packages?04:30
hondjeMez: the only downside I see, and don't take this wrong...but the real newbies don't want to learn, they just want to do04:30
hondjexirtam: same as always04:30
hondjethey're just links, basically, to the packages04:30
flodineguys can someone please give me a link to change my resolution to 1900x120004:31
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blackgibsonhondje: amen brother04:31
mp_dark: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/32779704:31
xirtamhondje:  i would need the hole path ... i killed my xserver and dont have a browser to look for them ... could you post them here?04:31
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hondjexirtam: http://www.hondje.net/~hondje/sources.list04:32
hondjeoh, no X04:32
tofiriuswhat's the directory structure to find stuff on the desktop?04:32
ana150uuh hondjes sources.list, must have!04:32
Mezhondje04:32
fr500wget :p04:32
flodineplease guy my suse 9.3 does 1900x1200 cant find anything for ubuntu04:32
Mezwe're planning to helop them do,04:32
xirtamhondje: it's ok i get them with w3m ...04:32
Mezget their interest04:32
xirtamthx04:32
Mezthen let them learn04:32
hondjexirtam: okay, wget works too04:32
ana150flodine: do you mean that ubuntu doesn't support as high resolution?04:33
hondjeMez: It's a noble plan, and will do good I hope :)04:33
flodinenope04:33
Mezso do i :d04:33
ana150flodine: so what do you mean?04:33
blackgibsontorfirius: /home/(username)/Desktop04:33
hondjeubuntu can support that just fine04:33
tofiriusblackgibson: oh cool.... thanks!!04:33
MezI'm hoping it'll be significant enough to push me over the edge and help me be  amber04:33
flodineana15004:33
darkmp_: you are ndiswrapper -i theinffile.inf right?04:33
goye2czanyone out there have a solution to install a tascam us122 without taking several hours?04:33
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hondjeMez: amber?04:34
ana150hondje: well it's just that you usually have to set higher resolutions manually04:34
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flodineana150 im stuck cant run ubuntu at 1900x120004:34
hondjeyeah, no dpkg--reconfigure--magic04:34
Meza member04:34
hondjeflodine: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:34
hondjeMez: oh, okay04:34
Razor-Xyeah, I found out the reason04:34
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Razor-XAzureus uses too much RAM04:34
martinjh99flodine> Will dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg work?04:34
hondjeflodine: go down to modes, and add that resolution where the rest are04:34
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ana150hondje: damn, i was just saying same :D04:34
mp_dark: yea, i did ndis -i, if that's what u mean04:35
blackgibsongoye2cz: you are trying to do (semi) pro audio on linux?04:35
hondjeflodine: if you hardware can handle it, and it doesn't work, then you need to edit your horiz/vert setting in the monitor section to match your monitors04:35
goye2czblackgibson: right.04:35
goye2czblackgibson: checking out the options.04:35
blackgibsongoye2cz: You are either very brave or very misguided my friend ;)04:35
goye2czblackgibson: probably both.04:35
darkdark: you did -i the inf file though right? i guess prisma02.inf?04:36
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mp_dark: yea04:36
blackgibsongoye2cz: Pro audio is the ONLY reason i still dual boot04:36
darkerr mp_: i see someone there with that same error message, mmk04:36
goye2czblackgibson: what exactly is it that makes it so hard in linux? Hunting down drivers?04:36
hondjeSound in linux is a bunch of ugly hacks and work-arounds04:36
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djm62not to mention the lack of pro software04:37
blackgibsongoye2cz: actually it is a ( increasingly less bad ) lack of good user end software04:37
hondjewell, good software can make ugly hacks invisible :)04:37
goye2czblackgibson: well right now I'm using N-track on windows so I doubt it would be a step down as far as that goes.04:37
hondjebut there'd be that software by now, I think, if sound wasn't so troublesome :-/04:37
djm62I keep hoping someone can use jack, ladspa and pygtk to make Reason in a couple of months04:38
blackgibsongoye2cz: linux FINALLY has a low latency audio system comparale to ASIO, but as far as DAWs go.. ugh...04:38
mads_Hey all.  Trying to get WPA up and running on my ASUS M2400N laptop with a ipw2100 card.  Do any of you have experience with that?04:38
blackgibsongoye2cz: Ardour would be great if it would stop crashing on my ass04:38
goye2czhuh... not sounding so promising.04:39
hondjehow does video compare to windows?04:39
darkmp_: from what the ndiswrapper site says, you should try the drivers from the www.ralink.com.tw/supp-1.htm site04:39
hondjeI haven't used it for anything in so many years, I have not a clue04:39
blackgibsongoye2cz: Video is good....04:39
blackgibsoner..04:39
djm62video shows moving images, windows just show you what's on the other side04:39
blackgibsonhondje: video is in a far better state than audio04:40
hondjeroger that, blackgibson04:40
blackgibsonhell, Film GIMP is used in hollywood04:40
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mads_I'm using the ipw2100 driver, should I use ndiswrapper instead?04:40
blackgibsonforget what they changed the name to04:40
djm62cinepaint04:40
hondjeI still do most of my dv stuff from my camera on the mac04:40
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blackgibsoncinepaint, thanks04:40
hondjekino is nice though04:40
HowitzerCan i use the Debian Fluxbox on Ubuntu?04:40
hondjeHowitzer: even better, you can use the ubuntu fluxbox :)04:41
HowitzerOo04:41
Howitzerubuntu fluxbox exists?04:41
djm62hondje: do you run linux ppc?04:41
hondjeHowitzer: Yessir04:41
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mp_dark: hmm... the USB source code version in the linux section?04:41
Howitzerwaar dan?04:41
hondjedjm62: oh nooooooooo04:41
hondjethe mini mac is the missus's, only for touching with camera-use04:41
djm62:) gotcha04:41
Howitzerop fluxbox.scourgeforce vind ik niets van Ubuntu04:41
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HowitzerOo04:42
darkmp_: well apparently that card has a different chipset, you might have to look into it a bit more, but the ndiswrapper site lists the drivers needed for alot of cards04:42
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djm62Howitzer: use "apt-cache search fluxbox"04:42
Howitzerthen why do you have a dutchies nme :/04:42
blackgibsongoye2cz: check it.  http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=vendor-Tascam#matrix04:42
hondjeHowitzer: fluxbox is in universe, apt-get install fluxbox fluxconf fbpager fbdesk should get you going04:42
darkmp_: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php04:43
hondjeHowitzer: because ik bin het gekker snoodaard04:43
darkmp_: go to the first link, list04:43
hondjeactually, my dutchie friends mutated my nick into hondje, and it's catchy, so I kept it04:43
Howitzerwhat the hell hondje  :x04:43
Howitzerlol04:43
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goye2czblackgibson: already been there. couldn't figure the site out. Left screaming.04:43
hondjeI spend most my time online in a telnet talker based in amsterdam04:43
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Howitzerhondje=doggie (little doggie)04:43
hondjeYeah04:43
mp_dark: ok04:44
hondjemy normal nick, as it were, is smitedogg04:44
Howitzerokay04:44
hondjefrom that came dogg, then doggy....04:44
hondjemutation04:44
Howitzeri'm going to try fluxbox \ o /04:44
Howitzerlol04:44
Howitzeryou mutant beast :D04:44
hondjeto make matters worse, my webserver is in amsterdam04:44
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Howitzerwhat webserver?04:45
hondjemy webserver04:45
fr500hello04:45
Howitzerwhat do you run on it?04:45
hondjexs4all hosts it for a very reasonable price04:45
Howitzerogh yeah04:45
HawkeVIPERhondje, mine is in VA with quad 100mbit pipes =P04:45
Howitzerxs4all04:45
fr500i start getting this kind of messages, then i gotta restart my nic to have internet04:46
fr500NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth1: transmit timed out04:46
fr5000000:01:02.0: tulip_stop_rxtx() failed04:46
fr500NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth1: transmit timed out04:46
fr5000000:01:02.0: tulip_stop_rxtx() failed04:46
fr500NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth1: transmit timed out04:46
fr5000000:01:02.0: tulip_stop_rxtx() failed04:46
fr500NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth1: transmit timed out04:46
fr5000000:01:02.0: tulip_stop_rxtx() failed04:46
fr5000000:01:02.0: tulip_stop_rxtx() failed04:46
goye2czalright, I think I've spent enough time on this today. I'm outta here. Thank all for the help.04:46
fr500oops04:46
hondjemy blog (mostly trolling for hatemail), pictures, .debs I made, etc04:46
fr500sorry didnt mean to span04:46
HawkeVIPERdude, use pastebin04:46
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Howitzercool04:46
Howitzergive the url :D04:46
fr500HawkeVIPER, i copied one line only i thought04:46
hondjeHowitzer: Don't like xs4all?04:46
fr500anyway, any ideas on what is wrong04:46
HawkeVIPERlol04:46
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Frafrahi all04:47
Howitzerwth04:47
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HawkeVIPERfr500, it might be the ipv6 thing04:47
HawkeVIPERdisable that and try again04:47
Frafrahow to transfer files from pc to tel by bluetooth?04:47
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mp_dark: this may be useful info: (USA dlink site has wrong drivers!)  :-/04:47
fr500:[ how?04:47
Howitzerapt-get install fluxbox wmfrog fluxconf fbdesk fbpager04:47
Howitzer    <= only 800kb? Oo04:47
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CarlFKFrafra - files or name/phone numbers?04:48
HowitzerSetting up fluxbox (0.9.11-1) ...04:48
HowitzerSetting up fluxconf (0.9.5-1) ...04:48
HowitzerSetting up wmfrog (0.1.6-2) ...04:48
Howitzerwhat do i have to do now?04:48
FrafraCarlFK: files04:48
Howitzerrestart X?04:48
darkmp_: lol04:48
Howitzer?04:49
TokenBadhondje, doing the killall eds worked great04:49
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TokenBadthanks04:49
Howitzeranyone04:49
hondjeHowitzer: It 'should' be in sessions menu in gdm04:49
hondjeTokenBad: glad to hear it :)04:49
Howitzerehh04:49
CarlFKFrafra - wow, you are 2 steps ahead of me - I didn't even know any phones supported that04:49
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TokenBadyeah got sound in game now04:49
hondjeTokenBad: you want to be lazy04:49
swarmI have found that kernel for amd64-k8 coming with Ubuntu Hoary 5.04 isn't compiled for preemption. That could be the reason for input devices loss of interactivity during heavy /dev/hda I/O activities?04:49
Howitzerwhere the hell is my sessions menu in my gdm(?)04:49
Howitzer:/04:49
Howitzeroooooh04:49
hondjewait, n/m04:49
Stino-where can i find the file ifcfg-eth0, i need to use ip-aliassing04:49
Howitzermy login screen?04:49
hondjeHowitzer: yeah, gdm04:50
Howitzerokay04:50
TokenBadno I was looking at websites trying to find info..but it didn't say stuff like that..it just was saying stuff like edit this conf file..04:50
Howitzerfor waht does gdm stand?04:50
HawkeVIPERStino-, /etc/network04:50
TokenBadand then log out and log back in04:50
TokenBadblah blah blah..04:50
hondjeHowitzer: gnome desktop manager04:50
Howitzerokay04:50
TokenBadI did all that and it still wasn't working04:50
Howitzerbye bye04:50
Stino-HawkeVIPER: there's nothing like that in there actually04:50
TokenBadbut none of the sites I went to said anything about killall04:50
Stino-HawkeVIPER might that be cause i use vmware04:51
hondjeTokenBad: That's why I'm paid the big bucks ;-)04:51
HawkeVIPERyou using vmware dhcp or static?04:51
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Stino-HawkeVIPER: DHCP, should it be static?04:52
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hondjehehe, that's funny04:52
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geetergodOk, i'll give money to whoever can help me get my sound working haha04:52
hondjenot because it's a bad question, but because the first D means 'dynamic' :-)04:53
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TokenBadhondje, heheh...you have advantage of been using ubuntu a while to..this is my 3rd day of using it04:53
TokenBadheheh04:53
hondjeTokenBad: so I got 4.999 years on ya04:54
TokenBadhahahah04:54
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hondjeslight advantage ;-)04:54
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TokenBadyeah I would say that04:54
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hondjeoh, and 2 years as a cedega subscriber04:54
NgTokenBad: hopefully the first three of many :)04:54
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geetergod"ALSA device "default" is already in use by another program." anyone help me with this?04:54
HawkeVIPERkill esd04:55
geetergodkillall esd gives me "esd: no process killed04:55
geetergod"04:55
TokenBadyeah I like it..04:56
hondjegeetergod: lsof | grep alsa04:56
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TokenBadI tried linspire...got fed up with quick04:56
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geetergodhondje, what'd that do?04:56
TokenBadthen tried mandriva04:56
TokenBadand I left it on for a whole 30 mins04:56
TokenBadand took it off04:56
hondjegeetergod: showed you everything running with alsa in its name, or being used by it, etc04:56
TokenBadthen tried ubuntu04:56
hondje'list open files'04:56
geetergodoooh04:56
geetergodmixer_app 7467  geetergod  mem       REG        3,1   89464   1197699 /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.8/libgstalsa.so04:57
geetergodgaim      7756  geetergod  mem       REG        3,1   10716   1227000 /usr/lib/ao/plugins-2/libalsa09.so04:57
geetergodis that normal?04:57
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hondjegeetergod: kill 746704:57
jeldhello all04:57
Rockett17anyone know the command to uninstall the new ati drivers?04:57
jeldis the repository down?04:57
Kamping_Kaiserhi04:57
Kano_UbuntuRockett17, suer04:57
lsuactiafnerkill -9 746704:57
Kano_Ubuntu!ati04:57
ubotuKano_Ubuntu: Wish i knew04:57
Kano_Ubuntuhmm04:57
hondje-9 is so messy04:57
Kano_Ubuntuwhats up with sonya04:57
lsuactiafnerits messy?04:58
Kano_Ubuntuok, wrong channel ;)04:58
lsuactiafnerteh why?04:58
geetergodhondje, i still have the same problem04:58
Rockett17i cant get my x to start now :(04:58
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geetergodgaim      7756  geetergod  mem       REG        3,1   10716   1227000 /usr/lib/ao/plugins-2/libalsa09.so04:58
geetergodthats what i have left04:58
HawkeVIPERah04:58
HawkeVIPERgaim04:59
HawkeVIPERdisable gaim sounds for th etime being04:59
HawkeVIPERthen read the howto on getting ESD implemented into ALSA04:59
geetergodk04:59
geetergodthey are04:59
lsuactiafnerif he kills gaim then he d/c from irc lol04:59
HawkeVIPERlol04:59
lsuactiafnerstupid gaim04:59
geetergodno i dont04:59
geetergodi just quit gaim04:59
lsuactiafner1.3.1 is out04:59
HawkeVIPERgeetergod, restart gaim and use xchat04:59
HawkeVIPER=)04:59
jeldanyone knows if the repository is ok? I get MD5 mismatch errors04:59
lsuactiafnerso i ponder what version is in apt04:59
geetergodHawkeVIPER, im in xchat05:00
CarlFKhttp://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969 shows 2 breezy installs, different sizes - Is that a problem shomeone should know about?05:00
HawkeVIPERlsuactiafner, probably some back patched crap like with firefox05:00
Rockett17q05:00
HawkeVIPERhave they fixed that cockup yet?05:00
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HawkeVIPERah, obviously not... i apt-get updated last night, and firefox is still 1.0205:00
HawkeVIPERghey05:00
Ng1.0.4 won't be going into hoary05:01
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Ngonce a stable release is out it only gets security and serious bug fixes05:01
jeff25HawkeVIPER: 1.04 is on backports05:01
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ana150nice, my pc got crashed05:01
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jeldHawkeVIPER, use the useragent Luke! :)05:01
HawkeVIPERjeff25, does it display 1.04?05:01
sleptI got a problem with the ubuntu debian-installer05:01
HawkeVIPERjeld, I am =)05:01
lsuactiafnerHawkeVIPER : just get firefox from mozilla05:01
jeff25HawkeVIPER: no you have to change the version05:01
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Nglsuactiafner: sticking with using packages from apt is always a good plan ;)05:02
lsuactiafnerNg  : its not.05:02
hondjeNg: You missed the orgy of marillat here earlier, before I left work05:02
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ana150hmm, btw does anyone know why does firefox load more than "konqueor" or something like that it was05:02
HowitzerOehhh05:02
Nghondje: erk, sounds fun ;)05:02
HawkeVIPERNg, I prefer to compile the majority of stuff myself.  just can't be assed with FF05:02
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jeldanyone knows about the state of us.archive.ubuntu.com?05:02
geetergodany other tips for my sound?05:02
lsuactiafnermplayer, gaim and firefox i will compile myself since the maintainers dont update to new releases05:02
jeff25HawkeVIPER: just change the version and you're good to go05:02
HawkeVIPERana150, because firefox was designed for winblows?05:02
Nglsuactiafner: why?05:02
HowitzerFluxBox is really smooth :/05:02
Seveasjeld, it gives md5sum errors sometime05:02
HawkeVIPERjeff25, I will, on an off day05:02
HawkeVIPERlol05:02
HawkeVIPERtoo busy05:02
jeldSeveas, yup05:02
jeff25HawkeVIPER: it takes 2 seconds05:03
lsuactiafnerexport CFLAGS="-march=athlon-4 -O3 -pipe"05:03
HawkeVIPERjeff25, 2 seconds I don't have05:03
Nglsuactiafner: FF 1.0.4 is pretty much identical to the 1.0.2 + fixes version that's in hoary05:03
jeldSeveas, is it gonna get fixed?05:03
lsuactiafnerand packages compile every possible option in05:03
jeff25HawkeVIPER: yeah uh huh05:03
lsuactiafneri dont need it05:03
HawkeVIPERI'm too busy fixing other people's shit to fix my own05:03
jeff25HawkeVIPER: you should just run windows then05:03
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hondjebut I make them into debs and all that05:03
HawkeVIPERjeff25, um... no05:03
lsuactiafnerand the mozzila binary works properly.. i trust the ppl who wrote the software to compile it05:03
Seveasjeld, there's an archive update in progress, so this will resolve automagically later..05:03
Nghondje: an orgy of marillat, that sounds fun ;(05:03
Howitzercan i have links on my desktop in FluxBox?05:04
HawkeVIPERHowitzer, yes05:04
HawkeVIPERget fbdesk05:04
Howitzeror in the toolbar(a la Gnome)05:04
hondjeNg: I take partial blame, me and someone else were talking about my transcode .deb I made05:04
jeldSeveas, cool, thanx05:04
Howitzeri thought i apt-get 'ted it05:04
HawkeVIPERyou need to start it05:04
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hondjeinspiration :)_05:04
ana150HawkeVIPER: okey, then the question is, why is firefox so great with linux, if it's even slower than other browsers?05:04
Howitzerdoesn't it start on its own?05:04
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HawkeVIPERana150, because it has compatibility?05:04
Howitzeri love FF05:04
hondjeit's way to slow05:05
Howitzerlol05:05
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HawkeVIPERhondje, I agree05:05
Howitzerit isn't05:05
Howitzeroky05:05
hondjeespecially ubuntu's build, it's aweful05:05
ana150i like firefox with windows, but with linux i hate it05:05
Seveasana150, slow dns lookups?05:05
Ngthrow more CPU at the problem, it's nippy enough on a 2ghz amd64 ;)05:05
ana150i don't know but it sure is heavy05:05
jeff25ana150: well there is always lynx05:05
HawkeVIPERHowitzer, modify the fb exec script in .fluxbox/ to call fbdesk/fbsetbg/etc05:05
HawkeVIPERthen it'll autostart05:05
ana150jeff25: i think links2 does better05:05
HawkeVIPERthere's a howto floating around somewhere on the fb site05:05
Howitzeri admit, it is really slow on a 200mghz but even then i thought it was worth to wait 30 secs05:05
hondjeI got cpu, I got memory...05:05
jeff25ana150: heh05:05
ana150:D05:05
hondjeit just renders large pages poorly05:05
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ana150links can handle frames and tables better than lynx imo05:06
Howitzerweird05:06
Seveasana150, if 'looking up foo.bar.com' takes a long time try this:05:06
Seveasana150: Open firefox and go to about:config. Now search for network.dns.disableIPV6 and set that value to true. Restart Firefox to see the effect.05:06
hondjeI timed it the other day, it took 25 seconds to unfreeze and stop stealing cpu to render the apple-x86 thread on /.05:06
Nghondje: I was using epiphany before and galeon before that and I think I'm going in the right direction ;)05:06
JormundgandHowitzer: catenating SI modifiers is bad form. "megagigahertz" should be "terahertz". ;)05:06
Howitzeri can't find it anywhere in aps/tools05:06
sleptits the warthy install which seems to have a bug - it hangs at libblkid1-udeb . I tryed with differnet cd's .05:06
HowitzerOo05:06
ana150Seveas: okey i'll try that :)05:06
slept*installer*05:07
mp_dark: hmm.. same issue (invalid driver) akthough i use the original driver from the CD 8which i managed to find, since all dlinks' sites appear to have the wrong drivers!!)05:07
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Jormundgand"Howitzer: i admit, it is really slow on a 200mghz but"05:07
Howitzerooh05:07
Howitzerhmm05:07
Howitzerto be honest05:07
JormundgandIn fact, that would be 2 petahertz.05:07
hondjeFF isn't that bad, but on ubuntu it's awful05:07
Howitzerwtf05:07
Howitzerit isn't :x05:07
hondjeI get twice the performance from running FF on a box half as fast, through ssh -X, as I do from this one05:08
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JormundgandAnd I want to know A) how hot a 200PHz processor runs B) how much it costs. :)05:08
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HowitzerFireFox just started and loaded 6 of my homepages in -1sec05:08
hondjemaybe I got a bum pkg, then :-?05:08
Howitzerindeed05:08
Howitzerbtw05:08
Howitzeri have the shittitest provider ever05:08
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Howitzerso don't say its my i-net =:D05:08
hondjehehe05:09
Seveashondje, usually it's the ipv6 dns crap that cause this...05:09
ana150Seveas: yeah, that really did work :), but is there something to speed up firefox starting?05:09
hondjeSeveas: long disabled05:09
Seveasana150, ENOIDEA05:09
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Seveashondje, hmm, ok :)05:09
hondjeit revs at max cpu for a good 10 seconds on many large pages...05:09
hondjeperhaps I should --reinstall05:09
philipp_Hi everybody I have a problem with ubuntu linux[hoary]  and my wlan card senao nl-2511 CD PLUS EXT2 [Prism 2 Chipset] 05:09
Seveashondje, can you give me an exaple url?05:09
Howitzeronly,  wish i could get the toolbar show up ALWAYS, so it can't get covered if i rune something05:10
Howitzeryeah05:10
Howitzerit could also be the server05:10
philipp_the internet is working but iwlist eth2 scan gives me scanning is not supported by this device05:10
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lsuactiafnerphilipp_ : slutty mode prolly not.. promiscious mode05:10
Seveaseth205:10
Seveasyou have 3 cards??05:10
lsuactiafneri got 3 also lol05:10
lsuactiafneryou need to bridge em05:11
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philipp_lsuactiafner: what does this mean? sorry my english is not so good05:11
lsuactiafnerana150 : prelink05:11
HawkeVIPERHowitzer: right click on the toolbar05:11
hondjeSeveas: http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/06/06/1752234&tid=118&tid=179&tid=305:11
HawkeVIPERthere's an option in the config to set on top05:11
lsuactiafnerphilipp_ : means your card refused to be a whore and to accept any packet passing by...  i think05:11
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spiderwormanybody here play nexuiz?05:11
Nghondje: that took about 6 seconds from the tab appearing to the spinner stopping and the page being ready05:12
lsuactiafnerprelink rocks05:12
Ngmaybe 705:12
Seveashondje, lol05:12
lsuactiafnerNg : thats fast05:12
Howitzertook me 4secs05:12
Seveasthat just takes an hour to load05:12
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lsuactiafneri wait more than a minute05:12
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ana150hmm05:12
lsuactiafneron a 5k/s dailu05:12
hondjeIt's still going for me05:12
Howitzerlol05:12
Ngouch05:12
Seveassince it's big05:12
hondjeI took a screenshot, you can see hte borkage05:12
ana150any ideas how to set up wlan?05:12
hondjestill going05:12
Howitzerhondje, specs? :D05:12
lsuactiafnerbtw adblock, sessionsaver and downloadsort extention plugins for firefox rock05:12
dadanwhats basicly deferent betwen kubuntu and ubuntu05:12
Seveashondje, but it loaded on my machine in < 5 seconds05:13
hondje2.7GHz p4, 768 ram, nvidia card05:13
Howitzeryou must have a 1600baud modem and a p133 =D05:13
hondjestill going05:13
Seveasdadan, the default set of installed packages05:13
Howitzerlol05:13
philipp_lsuactiafner: I dont want to read every packet passing by but to see the wlans in range of my card, at the moment im not able to use the network-manager of ubuntu05:13
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dadan:P05:13
Howitzerserious? :/05:13
hondjeyeah05:13
Howitzeri have 256mb ram05:13
Seveasdadan, kubuntu by default installs KDE, ubuntu gnome05:13
Ngapart from disabling ipv6 the other performance thing I did to firefox was set nglayout.initialpaint.delay to 0 so it starts dynamic layout as soon as it receives some data05:13
philipp_i have to configure my card using iwconfig05:13
lsuactiafnerHowitzer : p166 and a 45k baud connection atm05:13
Rockett17can someone post the generic xorg.conf for ubuntu so I can wget it and copy over my fucked up one05:13
hondjestill not there05:13
Howitzerlol05:13
Nghondje: that's pretty shocking ;)05:13
Howitzer56kbyte?05:13
SeveasRockett17, just do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:14
Nghondje: try moving your profile out the way and reinstalling ;)05:14
philipp_lsuactiafner: and the network applet is also not working05:14
lsuactiafneryeh, but it maxes @ 5k/s05:14
Howitzerhondje, re-install Ubuntu :x05:14
hondjejust now done05:14
Howitzerlol05:14
Kamping_Kaiserrockett17, it usualy makes a backup05:14
lsuactiafnerNg : prelink firefox05:14
Howitzer17:11 you started05:14
sleptRockett17, you can overwrite it with md5sum look at top of the file (xorg.conf)05:14
Nglsuactiafner: I have it running all the time, there's no need :)05:15
lsuactiafnersame05:15
lsuactiafnerbrowser stays open along with uptime05:15
lsuactiafnerheh05:15
Ngprelinking only really improves the time it takes to start an application afaik05:15
lsuactiafnerbut living in a country where electricity goes out....05:15
ana150what was the kpgd command? :D i forgot it05:15
lsuactiafnerNg : yeh05:15
hondjeNg: here's the freaky part05:15
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Howitzerargh05:16
ana150"kpgd" some thing like that what you use example to reconfigure locales05:16
hondjeI have 3 desktops...I run firefox in the middle, terms and stuff in the left, and evolution/work stuff in the right05:16
anirz_when linux was started???05:16
sleptshould I file a bugreport for the warty installer ? Or isn't tat of intrest anymore, the hoary-installer works fine with that hardware .05:16
Howitzerthe FluxBox toolbar keeps getting covered by maximized programs :x05:16
Ngana150: "dpkg-reconfigure locales" maybe?05:16
hondjeif I go from one to the firefox one, all you get is a frame, here's a pic05:16
philipp_lsuactiafner: iwconfig says that my card is in Mode:Ad-Hoc is that wrong?05:16
hondjehttp://www.hondje.net/~hondje/Screenshot.png05:16
Ngerk05:16
lsuactiafnerman iwconfig05:17
ana150Ng: thanks much, ill have to write it down, so i won't forget that dpkg again05:17
ana150:D05:17
hondjesee the CPU meter in the bottom right jump and pin to the top? :(05:17
lsuactiafneri got no idea, i got a v90 modem made in 199805:17
Ngana150: I hope that's the one you meant ;)05:17
Howitzerrofl05:17
lsuactiafner 17:12:59 up 1 day,  5:09, 17 users,  load average: 6.59, 6.76, 6.2105:17
anirz_how do i move to another room???05:17
lsuactiafnerheh05:17
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philipp_lsuactiafner: ok thank you anyway05:17
lsuactiafnernice -n -20 ripping a dvd05:17
jeroen_anirz_, /join #blabla05:17
lsuactiafneron a 3200+ amd6405:17
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Nghondje: how about with a fresh firefox profile?05:18
hondjeSo those app in that pic aren't on that desktop, they're on another, and it's all borked will FF is loading :-/05:18
Razor-Xhmmm, why don't BitTorrent clients other than Azureus receive any speed on my machine?05:18
anirz_thankx jeroen_05:18
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dbernar1woohoo, I am back in Linux!:)05:18
hondjeNg: same05:18
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HowitzerAaaaargh05:18
Razor-Xhondje: that's why you don't use Firefox ;)05:18
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hondje:)05:18
Nghondje: hmm. when you get that frame, does it just sit there for ages then display?05:18
anirz_anyone can tell me how do i compile XMMS?05:18
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hondjeyeah, while CPU stays at 10005:18
Razor-XAzureus won't work, but it seems, nothing else will05:19
Howitzerhow do i set it so that the FluxBox toolbar doesn't disappear when i put a program in maximized05:19
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Seveasanirz_, why doy ou want to compile it?05:19
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fabianSeveas, graphic works fine!05:19
Razor-Xanirz_: it's probably like any other compile, as long as you have the libs05:19
Seveasfabian, nice :)05:19
Thorrn4hello HappyFool!! since I reloaded the kernel, GRUB works faster and 2 me, the applications load faster; thank you05:19
lsuactiafnerif your firefox is giving shit disable java05:19
lsuactiafneralso05:19
Thorrn4hello all05:19
lsuactiafnerummm05:19
Nghondje: very bizarre05:19
anirz_Seveas, i am not getting the sound from XMMS05:19
fabianSeveas, I can't stop playing chromium! :D05:19
lsuactiafnerdont open 400 tabs05:19
Nghondje: might be worth reporting that as a bug, that is definitely not supposed to happen ;)05:19
Seveasanirz_, set the sound output plugin to esound then....05:19
lsuactiafnerand allocate it enough ram05:19
hondjeI thought it was :)05:20
jeroen_lsuactiafner, Fx sometimes also has problems with gplflash. That's a problem here, anyway05:20
Nghondje: hehe05:20
anirz_what is the command for compile?05:20
Seveasanirz_, you do not need to compile it05:20
lsuactiafnervm.overcommit_memory = 105:20
philipp_does anyone know about problems with the orinoco wlan driver if i do iwlist eth2 scanning i get eth2      Interface doesn't support scanning : Operation not supported05:20
lsuactiafnersysctl -e vm.overcommit_memory = 105:20
hondjehence my omfg ubuntofirefoxrt3hs8xxx05:20
Seveasanirz_, set the sound output plugin to esound then.... <-- do that and do not compile it05:20
Seveascompiling it yourself will not solve the problem05:20
muehlbuckswhat's the best place for periodic news about ubuntu?  i guess i'm hoping for something like the gentoo weekly newsletter05:20
Seveasmuehlbucks, ubuntu-traffic05:20
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fabiancan anyone explain how chromium works? how can I win? I alway get shot!05:21
anirz_Seveas, let me try05:21
Nghondje: if I flip to another desktop then back to that apple story there is a very short pretty small CPU blip and nothing else.05:21
hondjeNg: that one stays that way05:21
Seveasmuehlbucks, search for ubuntu-traffic on the ubuntu website05:21
hondjelookiing at apps from before, not repainting05:21
muehlbucksSeveas: found it, sweet - thanks05:21
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anirz_Seveas,  can u guide me?05:21
ana150hey anyone, how to start wlan set-up? i have added d-link's pci card and what next?05:21
Varangercrimsun: are you here?05:22
hondjeNg: thanks for letting me rant :)05:22
Nghondje: np ;)05:22
Ngfinding bugs is good :)05:22
hondjecouldn't ever track it tough05:22
Seveasanirz_, open the xmms preferences with ctrl+p05:22
hondjenothing odd on strace, and I'm not a programmer :-/05:22
anirz_Seveas, there is Audoi I/O plugin05:22
Seveaslook for lugins -> output plugins05:22
NgI found a great one last night, sloppy focus really confuses nautilus when you rename some files. it's been bugging me for ages and I finally figured out what it was :)05:23
anirz_is that the one??05:23
Seveasand set it to Esound05:23
Nghondje: if you make a bug report then the developers will guide you through gathering information if they need it :)05:23
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hondjeNg: true05:23
Nghondje: assuming it hasn't been reported already :)05:23
Seveasanirz_, i cannot guide you exactly, since i use beep-media-player instead of xmms (it's a better looking gtk2 port of xmms)05:23
hondjethen again, they ignored my nautilus bug05:23
hondje:)05:23
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anirz_Seveas, beep? can i download it?05:24
Seveasanirz_, sudo aptitude install beep-media-player05:24
anirz_Seveas,  i cant find esound here05:24
hornsbywhy don't you guys use amarok ? it rocks :)05:24
Nghondje: doh ;)05:24
anirz_Seveas, which distro are you using???05:24
Seveashornsby, amarok leads to KDE, KDE leads to fear, fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering05:24
Seveasanirz_, ubuntu of course :)05:25
ana150:D05:25
hornsbySeveas, more drama ?? :D lol05:25
Seveas;)05:25
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ana150Seveas: that's so true!05:25
hornsbySeveas, hey guys, I'm on KDE, and I dont have any trouble with it05:25
anirz_Seveas, :D i use sudo apt-get to install.. is it the same?05:25
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Seveashornsby, it's a matter of taste05:26
hornsbytrue05:26
Seveasanirz_, it's equivalent05:26
anirz_Seveas, okay :)05:26
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hornsbyanyway :)05:26
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hornsbySeveas, you'r good poet :D05:26
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anirz_hornsby, whats so special about amarock?05:26
anacronanirz_: if you don't even know that, you should read ubuntuguide.org, that helps a lot05:26
SeveasAmarok is quite a nice media player05:26
hornsbyit is05:27
Seveasanacron, ubuntuguide sucks05:27
anacronanirz_: not amarok, i mean that sudo thing05:27
Seveasit contains crappy information05:27
anacronwell it has helped me more than anyone in this channel05:27
anirz_anacron i am in the learning process.. so plz let me learn...:D.. no hard feeling05:27
Seveasanacron, then i hope you have not messed up too much :)05:27
NicPubuntu guide has been really helpful to me05:27
Varangerppl, do you remember a page where paste the contents of screen to avoid "flood"05:27
Varanger?05:28
SeveasVaranger, ubuntu.pastebin.com05:28
hornsbyanirz_, again, it's a matter of taste I guess but it's quite nice in general05:28
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VarangerSeveas: you rule! thanx05:28
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anacronanirz_: it's not that it's bad to ask thosekind of things, but you can learn those so easy if you just go to there05:28
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anirz_hornsby, as u guys are saying... i better try it05:28
anacroneasily*05:28
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hornsbyanirz_, right05:28
Ngthe stuff on ubuntuguide should all be in the proper ubuntu wiki really imho05:29
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SeveasNg, it is, but better05:29
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anirz_anacorn sometimes u get something so suddenly that u want to know it at that moment.. learning the OS is not reading book.. let it be practical05:29
radddxhey all05:29
anacronamarok's only nice feature is that thing which pop-ups at the top screen showing current track05:29
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NgSeveas: then the ubuntuguide people should be working on the wiki instead of their own site :/05:29
NicPanacron: i agree05:29
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NicPng: good point05:30
SeveasNg, the ubuntuguide person isn't cooperative05:30
hornsbyanacron, that's your point of view again05:30
Ngsimply because fewer doc sites is better05:30
kig_why nautilus does not use standart unix case-sensitive sorting rules ? (eg. directory 'Mamba' apears later than directory 'auto')05:30
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anacronwe'll usually all opinions are :)05:30
anacronwell*05:30
hornsbyright05:30
anirz_hornsby, so it is "amarok" right05:30
anacronthis is really bad fingers day05:30
Seveaskig_, you can make it do that05:30
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hornsbyanirz_, correct05:31
anirz_okay05:31
anacronhey anyone, what about my wlan?05:31
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kig_Seveas: can you tell me how ?05:31
radddxI'm having trouble getting Gnome or Xorg to work properly. I'm using a Radeon 9250 with a 1600x1200 DVI lcd and the screen is just blank. Originally it was corrupted when I used the 'ati' driver, now using the 'fglrx' driver the screen is just black/blank. Can anyone suggest a fix?05:31
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sleptradddx, did you install linux-restricted-modules ?05:31
radddxno05:31
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radddxwill that help?05:32
anirz_slept, is it dangerous to install linux-restricted mod?05:32
Ngradddx: you want to do the ati section of http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto05:32
rekaNg: imho, i agree with Seveas about the wiki being better... problems with ubguide: [1]  it puts backports in it's sample sources.list [2]  lack of explanation for *many* of the topics e.g. see the configure sound properly one.05:32
anacronradddx: check out dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg also, that might help05:32
Seveaskig_, sorry, i thought you could, but apparently i'm wrong05:32
anacron->05:33
Seveasreka, indeed, there are NO explanations at all05:33
Seveasand a lot of instructions are utter crap05:33
Seveasthe java instructions being an excellent example of crap05:33
radddxanacron: yep already tried that but it didn't fix it05:33
Ngif people want to run their own sites that is up to them really, however unfortunate it is05:33
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sleptradddx, you need a kernel module you can find out your kernel version with uname -r and then install the right resrticted modules .05:33
kig_Seveas, no problem. Maybe that stuff cannot be changed, because ubuntu has very heavily modified nautilus :-)05:33
radddxNg: thanks, I'll try those instructions05:33
rekaSeveas: i wouldn't say it's useless, but it definitely could be improved... it *is* unofficial though.05:34
b1rkoffhiya05:34
radddxwhere would I go about finding instructions on which ones I need?05:34
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anirz_what is the meaning of "sudo"??05:34
Seveasanirz_: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo05:34
sleptanirz_, the restricted modules are just not free I think05:34
HawkeVIPERsuperuser do05:34
hornsbyanirz_, using root right05:35
HawkeVIPERit's a means of executing commands as root05:35
HawkeVIPERor05:35
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HawkeVIPERfor that matter05:35
HawkeVIPERany user you specify05:35
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Seveasbon appetit!05:37
anirz_hornsby, yup05:37
anirz_hornsby, while installing its asking for the ubuntu cd..strange..???05:37
destinynot really strange, sorry just got here, what are you installing?05:37
rekaslept: radddx only needs to install a restricted module if he is using the ati.com driver.  if he follows Ng's link, he won't need to install anything other than the xorg driver.05:37
Seveasanirz_, comment out the cd line in /etc/apt/sources.list05:37
Seveasor use synaptic for that05:38
Nganirz_: apt is configured to use the CD by default, you can disable it in synaptic's repositories config, or comment out the first line in /etc/apt/sources.list05:38
Ngwhat Seveas said ;)05:38
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sleptreka, I  didn't look at that link05:38
radddxreka: I've tried installing that xorg driver, using apt-get then changing the xorg.conf from ati to fglrx but that gives me a blank screen. Will the 'echo fglrx | sudo tee -a /etc/modules' fix that problem? that's the only step that I didn't do. Also, I've tried using the fglrxconfig utility but that did not fix anything either.05:39
Seveasradddx, yes, that will solve your problem05:40
anirz_Seveas, Ng how do i commenet out..?? just delete it??05:40
rekaradddx: yes, you need to load the fglrx module05:40
Seveasand if you do not want to restart, type the following command too:05:40
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Seveassudo modprobe fglrx05:40
Nganirz_: put a # in front of the whole line05:40
Seveasanirz_, that, or put a # before it05:40
Seveaslike: #deb [cdrom etc...05:40
anirz_thankx05:40
Ngjinx! ;)05:40
radddxok, thanks, I'll reboot and change the hdds over, hopefully be back in ubuntu =)05:40
radddxbye05:41
Nganirz_: you'll need to tell synaptic to reload the package lists, or run "sudo apt-get update", then it won't ask for the CD again05:41
anirz_Seveas, it says cant open file to write..??/05:41
rekaslept: no worries.05:41
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Seveasanirz_, edit it as root05:41
anirz_okay05:41
Seveassudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list05:41
anirz_Seveas, how do i do that?05:42
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anirz_do i have to log in as root?05:42
destinyuse the command he just typed05:42
Ngerk05:42
anirz_okay05:42
Seveasanirz_, type the command i gave you05:42
NgSeveas: doing that kind of thing is a path to pain ime05:42
SeveasNg, what kind of thing..?05:42
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NgSeveas: running graphical things with sudo, you can end up with stuff in your home directory chowned to root05:42
anirz_yup worked..05:42
SeveasNg, i know. But gedit is safe05:43
destinyanirz_ then, once you have a # in front of the  cd line, save, close gedit, and do a sudo aptitude update05:43
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NgSeveas: yeah, that's fair enough, I'm just thinking it would be wise to encourage people to use the root terminal for that kind of thing, so they don't try it with something that isn't safe and break things ;)05:43
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upsis there any way to burn a 800MB CD in ubuntu? using n-c-b with overburn enabled didnt work05:44
anirz_destiny, yes i have done it05:44
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anirz_thankx05:44
SeveasNg, newbies and terminal-based editors is not the best combination too :)05:44
NgSeveas: hehe, this is very true ;)05:44
destinyok, test if it works better now05:44
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SeveasNg, and imnsho root terminals are more evil than this :)05:44
anirz_Seveas, doesnot matter it i crash the system.....05:44
anirz_:D05:44
NgSeveas: I mean just using the root terminal to run gedit, really05:45
anirz_*if i05:45
SeveasNg, that is not possible05:45
SeveasNg, the X server will not allow that05:45
Stew2Heyo, I've got a guy's machine, his name is dilkes, and I'm showing him how to setup Ubuntu Hoary. I've got the ISO on a RW CDrom, we booted up.. He's got 3 hard drives, the first has windows 98, the second two are blank, and are 850 megs a piece. Can I use LVM to put the second two together, thereby making one large 1.6 gig hard drive?05:46
anirz_Seveas, what are the windows managers that are available... KDE,GNOME Xfce .. and???05:46
SeveasStew2, that is possible05:46
NgSeveas: hmm. mine does, but I have quite a custom config. nevermind then ;)05:46
Seveasanirz_, fluxbox, e16 etc..05:46
anirz_okay05:47
apollo2011I am trying to compile WineX from source and I installed ok following the instructions at http://frankscorner.org/index.php?p=cedegacvs and used the .wine directory available on the site but now I get the below error when I try to run a downloaded version of dcom98.exe:05:47
apollo2011> ksut@Playroom1-Ubuntu:~/Downloads$ wine dcom98.exe05:47
apollo2011> wine: chdir to /home/ksut/.wine/wineserver-Playroom1-Ubuntu : No such file or directory05:47
Stew2seveas: When I tried running LVM from the setup screens, it said there were no partitions available. What type do I have to make the partitions? I read the manual and it says '8e'05:47
destinyI like how he says one large 1.6 gig drive:)05:47
Stew2destiny hehe05:47
destinynice05:48
destinywhos here?05:48
Daehliebig split05:48
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destinyyup totally.05:48
destinyor we are in a small one:)05:49
destinyyay, gnome is installed, gonna go try that...05:49
xozsupernova explosion05:49
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upsthere they come :)05:50
Stew2seveas: Hey, did you get that last one right before the netsplit?yt:fvk_fran-connect PRIVMSG lin :yt:sagan.fvk_fran.net 477 joaopaulo #debian-br :[fvk_fran-info]  why register andridentify?  your IRC nick is how people know you.  http://fvk_fran.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup05:50
lsuactiafneranirz_ : its like the force05:50
anirz_lsuactiafner, go away??05:51
quamhaha05:51
xozimplosion05:51
Stew2seveaz I got that far05:51
wdhbraam_, can be a variety of reasons :)05:51
Stew2seveaz I used the manual partitioner.05:51
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wdhs/braam_/Brad_c05:51
lsuactiafner;p;05:51
lsuactiafnerrofl05:51
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sleptserver split ?05:53
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xoznetwork split05:53
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b1rkoffyeah why it happens ?05:54
jon273Why would ruby1.8 not be available with apt?05:54
sandipSomebody change the topic: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/documentation/faq/root = 40405:54
flankknetburst05:54
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Seveas`stupid crappy servers...05:54
Seveas`anirz_, something goes wrong05:54
Seveas`sandip, i'll check it05:54
Ubuntiancan someone help me on this: i filling the /etc/exports file for NFS, i typed "/home 192.168.0.1(rw)" and when i "sudo exportfs -ra" it says "/home:invalid argument" , what's happening?05:54
jon273Why would ruby1.8 not be available with apt?05:54
Stew2_These netsplits are terrible05:54
jon273in case netsplit moved lats time too quick05:54
anirz_lsuactiafner, hmm i know that.. but u said its the cause of war... go away go away... all these things.. thats why i got confused05:54
anirz_;P05:54
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dennis_hello05:54
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jon273has anybody install ruby?05:55
Stew2_What format does a partition have to be made with the manual partitioning option in Ubuntu setup so I can combine two partitions together with LVM?05:55
mp_erhhmm, where is "grub.config" located in ubuntu (not in /etc it seems)????05:55
NgStew2_: have you tried 8e?05:55
Seveasmp_, /boot/grub/menu.lst05:55
quamjon, i tried, because i wanted gnome-art, but it wasn't available05:55
Stew2_Ng Nope. I just read about it in the manual.05:55
xozUbuntian: /etc/init.d/nfs-<servertype> restart05:55
dennis_has anyone enabled Wi-Fi in Ubuntu?05:56
NgStew2_: try 8e :)05:56
quami have dennis05:56
Seveasdennis_, these words come to you over wifi :)05:56
Stew2_It doesn't say anywhere during the setup, so I was trying 'ext3' and other options05:56
NgStew2_: you'll need a /boot partition on one of the disks, that can't be on the LVM05:56
jon273It isn't available05:56
dennis_hehe05:56
mp_Seveas: aha! thx!05:56
anirz_what i can use as  C,C++ editors/compiler in linux??05:56
jon273can't it be more specific?05:56
Ubuntianxoz, server type?05:56
dennis_I could use some help guys05:56
dennis_if you have some time05:56
Stew2_Ng How big does the boot partition need to be?05:56
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NgStew2_: I'm not 100% sure it's supported to install like that, but if it is, 83 would be the type to go for05:56
jon273anirz_, anjuta05:56
rommeranirz_: gcc05:56
lsuactiafneranirz_ : apt-get install build-essential05:56
anirz_jon273, is it a compiler or editor?05:56
destinyGnu Compiler Collection05:56
SeamusLPanirz_:  I just use gedit and gcc ;)05:56
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xozwhat nfs are you using in /etc/init.d/ ?05:57
jon273anirz_, it's an ide. An editor, but it uses gcc to compile05:57
lsuactiafnerand apt-get build-dep package ; before you build a package from source05:57
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BoD_SWATAnyone in here own a Pioneer DVD drive? (with ubuntu installed?) My computer doesn't recognize the drive... help!  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3451605:57
anirz_okay jon273 thgankx05:57
Ubuntianxoz, errr lemme check05:57
NgStew2_: doesn't need to be huge, mine is only using about 10mb, but you want to allow plenty of space for installing other kernels and things, so maybe 50-100mb should do it I would think?05:57
destinyBoD_SWAT wow, I heard that before, ask bob2 at some point when you catch him, if you dont get help by then.05:57
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xozStew2_: 100mb is safe05:58
lsuactiafner100mb is way too safe05:58
dennis_I am using Gateway 4024 laptop, and the built-in Wi-Fi is not recognized05:58
lsuactiafnerthats like 50 kernels05:58
dennis_but I also have a PCMCIA Netgear cart05:58
dennis_card*05:58
Stew2_Ng So I make a partition of /boot of type ext3, 50 mb shall we say, and the rest of the physical hard drive space I make an '8e' partition. The other empty hard drive I make the entire thing '8e', does this sound correct?05:58
BoD_SWATdestiny, why? Does bob2 have such an drive and a solution? Just in case: does he have an alternate nickname?05:58
Ngmy ubuntu box at work has 26mb in /boot05:58
xoz100mb is cheap05:58
quamdennis, i had to use ndiswrapper to get mine working05:58
dennis_quam, where can I get more information on this?05:59
Stew2_xoz The two hard drives in question are 850 megabytes each.05:59
Stew2_Fairly small.05:59
NgStew2_: if it's going to work, yes, that is how you want it arranged :)05:59
destinyBoD_SWAT dunno about alternate nickname, he is bob2 here, and in #debian, I think he will know, I believe he was talking about a pioneer dvd drive the other day.05:59
xozthen 20mb05:59
quami think there are two packages available with apt-get, ndiswrapper and ndiswrapper-tools or something similar05:59
lsuactiafneryou dont need a boot partition05:59
anirz_i guess swap partition depends on the size of the RAM05:59
BoD_SWATdestiny, by the way. Thanks for the information :-)05:59
NgStew2_: just keep an eye on the /boot, old kernels aren't always removed after upgrades, so it will fill up slowly05:59
lsuactiafneryou need 1 partiion for / and one for swap05:59
xozStew2_: make it 5-mb05:59
xozStew2_: make it 50mb05:59
lsuactiafnernoo he doesnt need a boot partition.......06:00
Stew2_Do I have to know anything else about setting up the two hard drives to install ubuntu?06:00
Ngooh yes, and a swap partition, my bad06:00
destinyBoD_SWAT that may help, really. welcome.06:00
Stew2_lsuactiafner, I have two hard drives, that's it, and a bootable Hoary Ubuntu install cd.06:00
dennis_quam, is your wireless connection encrypted?06:01
quamno, i was too lazy to turn that on06:01
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lsuactiafneryeh so put a 1G swap on one disk, and make the rest ext2 or 3 and the other disk just a linux native06:01
destinystew.........thaqts gonna be a tight install, are you just gonna do a server install, a minimal one?06:01
Stew2_ng How do I arrange the other partitions within the LVM? One as / exfs3 and the other as /swap?06:01
Nglsuactiafner: he wants to install to LVM, so grub needs a seperate /boot to read the kernel from06:01
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lsuactiafnerppl really, either in or out.. stop join flooding.. bastards..06:01
lsuactiafnerjks.06:01
xozlsuactiafner: /lastlog Stew2_06:01
lsuactiafnerhmmk06:01
Seveaslsuactiafner, stop it...06:01
Amaranthmain rotation server died06:01
lsuactiafnerSeveas : what making fun of netsplits?06:02
NgStew2_: no, the swap needs to be a normal partition on one of the disks like the /boot one, sorry, I didn't think of that the first time06:02
BoD_SWATooo.... netsplits/joins :-/\06:02
Seveaslsuactiafner, yes and creating noise with it...06:02
NgStew2_: how much RAM is in the machine?06:02
Ubuntianxoz, where can i find the server type i don't see it in /etc/init.d ?06:02
SeamusLPlsuactiafner yeah man, those bastards are conspiring to ruin our discussions!06:02
Stew2_Ng lsuactiafner I'll go try it out. Meanwhile I hope the spilts stop06:02
lsuactiafnerrofl06:02
Ubuntianxoz,  i see NFS but not the type06:02
xozUbuntian: you have to install nfs-<server> to be able to export your home06:03
lsuactiafner):06:03
anirz_stew2_ was pissed off...lol06:03
Ubuntianxoz, i did06:03
xozUbuntian: /etc/init.d/nfs restart?06:03
Ubuntiank06:03
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jon273So what do i do if Ruby isn't available?06:04
anirz_hey guys.. my NTFS partition is mounting but a FAT32 partition is not mounting...06:04
xozanirz_: explain more...06:04
Ubuntianxoz, ok there are two nfs common and nfs kernel do i restart both?06:04
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xozUbuntian: pick your choice.06:04
xozUbuntian: only one06:04
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anirz_xoz, i read the wiki page on how to mount MSWindows Partition.. i managed to partition the NTFS partition.. where i have my XP.. but i want to mount a FAT32 partition .. which is not happening06:05
sleptUbuntian,  /etc/init.d/nfs-user-server restart06:06
lsuactiafneranirz_ : mount -t vfat /dev/partition /mnt/moun_point06:06
anirz_lsuactiafner, complicated..06:06
anirz_explain plz06:07
SeamusLPanirz_ that's why you have an /etc/fstab to do this for you06:07
sleptUbuntian , but the server updates automatically after some time , just try to mount it that  should work06:07
lsuactiafneranirz_ : mount -t vfat /dev/device /mnt/where_you_want_to_mount06:07
lsuactiafnermkdir /mnt/where_you_want_to_mount06:07
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anirz_lsuactiafner, i have followed as it was mentioned in the wiki page.. i made dir...but somehow its not working.. anyways let me check again06:08
Ubuntianslept, but it says /home: Invalid argument06:08
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anirz_lsuactiafner, i will ask u again... brb in a minute06:08
xozanirz_: check the permission. be root before mount to be sure you have all the power to mount06:09
sleptUbuntian, nfs= network file system06:09
Ubuntiani knew that thanks06:09
sleptUbuntian, mount -t nfs IP:/path /mountpoint06:09
anirz_xoz whats the command to be root??06:10
xozanirz_: su06:10
xozor sudo if you configured it06:10
Ngif he hasn't set a root password, su won't work, surely06:10
xozroot is the first to be set06:10
Ubuntianslept, after editing the export file, when i type exportfs -ra it says "/home invalid argument...06:11
anirz_xoz su: Authentication failure06:11
anirz_Sorry.06:11
Ngxoz: erm, not in ubuntu ;)06:11
xozah, tried sudo?06:11
sleptUbuntian, I never did a exportfs -ra, youst try to mount from the other machine it should work06:11
xozUbuntian: try exportfs ... without -ra06:12
Ubuntianwell i tried already06:12
Ubuntiank06:12
Nganirz_: do you know which partition it is you want to mount?06:12
jon273why the hell won't anything ruby-like install using apt?06:12
sleptUbuntian, whats the error for that06:12
anirz_~$ sudo06:12
anirz_usage: sudo -K | -L | -V | -h | -k | -l | -v06:12
anirz_usage: sudo [-HPSb]  [-p prompt]  [-u username|#uid] 06:12
anirz_            { -e file [...]  | -i | -s | <command> }06:12
anirz_ng yes i know06:12
Nganirz_: ok, have you made a mount point for it?06:13
Nganirz_: I'm just trying to find out where abouts it is that its failing, if you ahve any error messages that would be helpful ;)06:14
Ubuntianslept, can't remember, will do it again06:14
magogguys i have a serious problem, my video is giving out, games jus crash and apps too, firefox will close for no reason, in windows and linux....how can i determine what the issue is?06:14
sleptUbuntian, are you using the nfs-kernel-server ? I don't even have the exportfs command06:14
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anirz_ng ok.. let me help in this one.. hda0 for floppy right..?06:15
xozUbuntian: try /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server restart06:15
anacronmagog: logs might help :)06:15
xozUbuntian: try /etc/init.d/nfs-user-server stop06:15
Nganirz_: fd0 is floppy06:15
magoganacron, the system log doesent log the crahses06:15
magogi looked already06:15
Nganirz_: hd means hard disk (IDE usually)06:15
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Nganirz_: if you run "sudo fdisk -l" in a terminal it will list all partitions on all hard disks in your system06:16
xozmagog: hardware? cpu? ram? give us info... we cannot read your mind06:16
anirz_ng ok fd0.. now i have xp in C in MS language.. i want to mount D06:16
anirz_Ng so 'D" should be hda2 right?06:16
magogxoz, thats my point...i dont know what hardware is casuing this, i think its either cpu or video...i got 1gb ram06:16
magogand its new06:16
Nganirz_: maybe, run the fdisk command I pasted above, it will show you the FAT partition and the start of the line will tell you which /dev/ entry to use06:17
xozmagog: lspci ... tell us more info06:17
anirz_Ng: i have 1 NTFS 3 FAT 1 Swap and 1 ext3 partition06:17
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magogxoz lpsi?06:17
xozmagog: what is your cpu? etc.... video?06:17
magogok06:17
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Nganirz_: ok, D should be the lowest numbered of the FAT partitions I would think06:17
xozmagog: try lcpci in command prompt06:17
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xozmagog: lspci06:18
magognvidia geforece 4 5200, pentium 4 2.4ghz 1gbram06:18
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magogk06:18
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xozmagog: blame nvidia... that's my bet.06:18
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Ubuntianslept, both are installed the nfs kernel server and the nfs common06:18
Nganirz_: "sudo mkdir /mnt/fatdrive" will make a mount point for it, then try "mount -t vfat /dev/hdNX /mnt/fatdrive" (replace hdNX with hda2 or whatever it was the fdisk output said), if it doesn't work, tell me the error and run "tail /var/log/syslog" and see if there are any errors in there06:19
magogxoz, video could cause normal apps to crash too? if its video im in luck..i can get that replaced for free but if its cpu im kinda screwed06:19
xozUbuntian: try the kernel.06:19
Nganirz_: if it works then you can turn it into a line in /etc/fstab and it will be mounted every time you boot06:19
Ubuntiank06:19
anirz_ng okay06:19
xozmagog: try memory test... memtest06:19
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magogcommand not found06:20
xozmagog: it is one culprit of random crashes06:20
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Ngmagog: the package name is memtest86+ and you need to reboot to run it from the boot menu after it is installed06:20
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magogah,ok06:20
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sleptUbuntian, I don't know about the kernel server , I use the user server which works out of the box edit exports and thats all you need to do06:21
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angelohello al06:21
angelol06:21
angeloanyone have a Kubuntu linux ?06:21
xozUbuntian: try starting the kernel server... it's faster and stable. then check exportfs06:21
Ubuntianslept, if only that could work it's getting on my nerves06:21
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frohi haver troubles starting samba, if samba is started after cupsys (by init), it fails to start06:22
BurgerMannHi, I have a basic linux question. I'm developing webpages. Since I have my own user 'burgermann' and my websrv-user 'apache' I find it quite annoying when Apache isn't authorized to save my burgermann-owned files and vice versa06:22
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sleptUbuntian, is there a special reason why you want to use the kernel server ?06:22
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frohif sastarted interactively it starts ok06:22
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Ubuntianslept, no06:22
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Ubuntianwhat's the quick way to find one's IP number on the LAN?06:22
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NgBurgerMann: you could leave all the web files/directories owned by apache and add yourself to the apache group so you can access them06:22
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dennis_does anyone know how to check kernel version from CLI?06:23
xozBurgerMann: add your user to the group of apache06:23
sleptUbuntian, if you remove the kernel server and install the user-server you can keep your exports06:23
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sleptUbuntian, ifconfig06:23
PithlitUbuntian: the quickest? ask them06:23
frohUbuntian: ifconfig ?06:23
Ubuntiank06:23
BurgerMannOh, actually tried but did find it working06:23
[MilMazz] Hello, i'm trying to install libpng3-dev because i need to compile enlightenment DR17. The problem is i get an error while trying to install libpng3-dev. MD5Sum mismatch06:23
BurgerMannI'll try again06:23
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NgBurgerMann: you might need to put more group permissions on the files in that case06:23
xozdennis_: uname -a ?06:24
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stjepanhello from Ubuntu06:24
dennis_thanks xoz06:24
anirz_ng : i have given these two lines.. is it valid..:/dev/hda5       /mnt/winD       vfat    defaults,auto,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 006:24
anirz_/dev/hda6       /mnt/winE       vfat    defaults,auto,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 006:24
BurgerMannNg, the group permissions should be 706:24
NgBurgerMann: that should be ok then, check that's on the directories too06:24
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Nganirz_: those look ok, assuming hda5 and 6 are the correct partitions06:25
Ubuntianok i understand what's happening, i have DHCP set, and my IP number changed from yesterday, yesterday it was 5 today it's 1 ...06:25
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Ubuntianno wonder NFS didn't work06:25
sleptUbuntian, :)06:25
xozUbuntian: cannot contact the ip?06:25
anirz_okay06:26
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wizzarddoes anybody know where can I get apt-get source for Krita? (KOffice graphics program)06:26
Ubuntianso to share a printer if u have DHCP u have to change the settings everty time u use it cose the IP number might change ?06:26
anirz_Ng hda5 is mounting but not hda6..06:26
xozUbuntian: edit /etc/dhclient.conf06:26
Nganirz_: "sudo tail /var/log/syslog" - any obvious errors in there?06:27
Ubuntianomg06:27
anirz_Ng.. its working now06:27
xozUbuntian: or the dhcp server config... to suggest that you like a particular ip... fixed ip06:27
Nganirz_: ok :)06:27
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anirz_i was typing something wrong06:27
anirz_thank u ng06:27
Nganirz_: np :)06:27
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Ubuntianand i thought this would be a walk in the park to set up (file sharing and printer sharing)06:28
[MilMazz] somebody has had the same problem? -> MD5Sum mismatch via apt-get...06:28
anirz_Ng: why i am not getting soung in XMMS>06:28
xozUbuntian: printing is *hell* to config in linux06:28
sleptUbuntian, if you don't whant to look for your ip you can use samba (especially for a printer , for filesharing I prefer nfs)06:28
Seveas[MilMazz] , the us.archive.ubuntu server is bugging06:28
sleptxoz, ?06:28
Seveas[MilMazz] , use archive.ubuntu.com06:28
[MilMazz] Ok! i'll try...06:29
Ubuntianslept, well i will setup the router so as to have a fixed ip06:29
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quamanirz, ctrl+v, go to the output and try using esound instead of alsa or oss06:29
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Nganirz_: I'm not sure about sound stuff, I have a card that does a lot of stuff for ubuntu, but I think you might want to install/use the esound output plugin for xmms06:29
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Seveasbut i only print local or via ssh :)06:29
Ubuntianxoz, yesterday the printer worked fine, but my ip changed today so it doesn't anymore, funny stuff06:29
Nganirz_: others may know better though06:30
anirz_NG okay06:30
Chameleon22hi all, just did apt-get phpdoc and it installed and all, but trying to run it on a script and i cant bloodey find the executable06:30
sleptxoz, what kind of printer do you have - canon?06:30
Nganirz_: at least try the oss, alsa and esound/esd output plugins :)06:30
SeveasUbuntian, heh, stuff like printer sharing needs wins or static IPs06:30
UbuntianSeveas, didn't know that06:30
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anirz_quam, there is no Esound...06:30
psychonateis it hard to set up a wireless access point?06:30
xozfuji xerox06:30
Ubuntianshould have guessed it though06:30
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xozslept: ^^06:30
Seveaspsychonate, not really06:31
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stjepando you know any small and fast browser?06:31
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Ubuntianwell i've got to go back to work, fixed ip then printer setup, then NFS setup, :-)06:31
Seveasstjepan, links206:31
Seveasstarting it with links -g even gives you images :)06:32
quamanirz_: might need to install it, open the synaptic package manager, search for esound06:32
Ubuntianthanks guys (i assume there is no gilrs in here right?)06:32
anirz_quam, ok06:32
psychonate...sorta sexist06:32
Th4tBa5t4rdstjepan... try Lynx it's text only though06:32
geetergodThink anybody can help me with my sound?06:32
stjepanah06:32
Ubuntiangirls*06:32
SeveasUbuntian, unfortunately there are few to no girls in these kind of channels06:32
SeveasTh4tBa5t4rd, links is better than lynx :)06:32
xozUbuntian: no. all girls mimicking boys06:32
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stjepando you know any like dillo?06:33
Th4tBa5t4rdare the .us repositories still down? or did i break something?06:33
SeveasTh4tBa5t4rd, still down06:33
rekageetergod: what problems?06:33
Amaranthuse uk.archive.ubuntu.com or just archive.ubuntu.com06:33
Th4tBa5t4rdgood good. well. actually bad. but glad i didn't mess anything up06:34
geetergodreka, my sound did work and i must've did something, now it keeps saying something else is opened06:34
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geetergodreka, any ideas?06:35
rekageetergod: you could try: killall esd06:35
quamanirz_: find it in the package manager?06:35
geetergodreka, that never works06:35
slepthow can I Change encoding for smbtree06:36
geetergodesd: no process killed06:36
bpuccioTh4tBa5t4rd: I have a mirror of archive in the US up if you'd like, but its i386 and binary only, no source, no PPC and no AMD6406:36
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Th4tBa5t4rdit's cool. i just wondered. there's nothing i really NEED at the moment, but that you for the offer06:37
geetergodreka, any idears?06:37
misfitwhat's with all these netsplits today?06:37
Th4tBa5t4rdwe should see if playboy.com would put up a mirror ;-)06:37
bpucciorofl06:38
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rekageetergod:http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SoundProblemsHoary06:38
anacronis there wlan problems too?06:38
anacronor how to set-up wlan guide?06:38
anacroni can't check it out with this computer right now06:39
rekageetergod: could you elaborate on the error? or is that all it tells you?06:39
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geetergodreka, i had sound yesterday then someone tried helping me get my surround sound to work, now i cant get any sound out of anything..06:39
Th4tBa5t4rdhttp://mirrors.playboy.com/ they mirror FC, and FreeBSD... so you know, why not?06:40
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rekageetergod: [1]  check volume levels/other sound settings.  [2]  using gnome?  if none of the options on that link work, use this http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly.  i fixed my sound problems using that method, but i'd use it as a last resort because there is a chance it may make things worse.06:41
stjepanwhere can I download a FLTK port of dillo?06:41
anirz_quam : esound is installed06:42
quamtry switching to that in xmms and see if you get sound06:42
stjepando you know?06:43
stjepando you use dillo?06:43
naliothstjepan: what is a fltk port of dillo? i know what dillo is, but what is the difference?06:44
=== Vurdak np: joy division - atmosphere
wizzardpls, how can I add a source for an unstable KOffice to my apt-get config file<06:44
stjepannalioth, it uses fltk06:44
anirz_quam, i cant find esound in xmms..06:44
stjepan2.006:44
naliothstjepan: suposed to make it quicker?06:45
anirz_quam: i am getting the sound..06:45
quamare you?06:45
naliothwizzard: with a text editor. /etc/apt/sources.list06:45
quamso if you're getting sound, dont worry about finding esound in xmms :P06:46
wizzardyeah, but I did not find any suitable source06:46
stjepannalioth, maybe06:46
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stjepannalioth, look at dillo faq06:46
raptoidyupp06:46
anirz_hey gotta go guys... thank you all for ur help..Ng, quam..06:46
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quamsorry couldn't help more06:47
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naliothstjepan: perhaps you could compile from source, specifying --with-fltk06:47
stjepando you know any other browser?06:47
anirz_quam: i am getting the sound..06:47
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naliothstjepan: any other browser to do what?06:47
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stjepannalioth, small and fast browser06:49
upsanyone know how to burn a 800MB CD in ubuntu?06:50
sleptdamn , got a kernel panic right after install - unable to mount rootfs - I hate that machine . First the warty installer didn't work and now that :(06:50
sleptups, do you already have an .iso ?06:50
upsno, but i can make one06:51
Pithlitstjepan: tried Amaya ?06:51
naliothstjepan: graphical? cuz i like console browsers for speed06:51
Pithlitehhh... too late06:51
rekanalioth: text-only eh?  what do you use?06:52
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nalioththe phone never stops ringin'06:52
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upsslept, any suggestions?06:52
sleptups, cdrecord  -overburn file.iso, you might need an dev=ATAPI:/dev/hd..06:52
geetergodreka, i dunno, i cant get nothin to work06:52
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geetergodreka, i didnt go through that process on the page, it wasnt working just right so i stopped06:53
rekageetergod: tried all my suggestions?06:53
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sleptups, you can make the iso with  mkisofs06:53
upsslept, thanks, but n-c-b failed to work with the overburn option... do u think that will?06:53
nalioth_wrknreka i compiled links from twibright labs, with graphics and javascript support and boy is it quick06:53
DeffyHello06:53
Pithlithi06:53
traumaHi06:54
sleptups, what is n-b-c ?06:54
upsslept, i only have one 800MB cd left now... so wanna be sure :)06:54
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Deffyhow is everyone?06:54
geetergodreka, when i try playing something in xmms i get Please Check that: Your soundcard is configured properly. You have the correct output plugin selected. No other program is blocking the soundcard.06:54
matjan_hello, i installed ubuntu yesterday and all went pretty fine... however, i get a warning when i log in... it says this:06:54
upsslept, nautilus-cd-burner06:54
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matjan_Could not look up internet address for linux-ubuntu. This will prevent GNOME from operating correctly. It may be possible to correct the problem by adding linux-ubuntu to the file /etc/hosts.06:54
matjan_what is wrong?06:54
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traumawell, add linux-ubuntu to the file /etc/hosts06:54
rekanalioth_wrkn: i've never used a text browser, are links followed sort of like the 'info' system?06:54
traumaand see what it does06:54
geetergodreka, and when i try watching a video inTotem i get 'ALSA device "default" is already in use by another program.06:54
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psychonateheh06:55
rekageetergod: change the output plugin in xmms to esound or alsa06:55
JayLv99Hello, where can I find a version of ubuntu that I can just download to my harddrive then install w/out burning it to CD?06:55
matjan_trauma: how to do that? i looked in /etc/hosts... and now it says: 127.0.0.1 localhost06:55
sleptups, don't know much about nautilus - I use xfce06:55
Deffyjust downloaded the LiveCD, liked what I saw and now downloading the full version but I do have a question06:55
matjan_trauma: what ip-address do i give to linux-ubuntu?06:55
traumasimply add the line: linux-ubuntu06:56
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PithlitDeffy: just ask06:56
matjan_that's all??06:56
geetergodreka, its on ALSA 1.2.10 output plugin [libALSA.so] 06:56
traumaI don't know06:56
rekageetergod: the totem problem is because you opened another program that uses sound, ubuntu only lets you use one at a time in its default config iirc.06:56
traumait's only what I would try06:56
traumayou never know06:56
Funzois there any documentation on out of the box supported wifi cards?06:56
Pithlitmatjan_: try and see what happens06:56
upsslept, ok. but are u sure cdrecord with -overburn will be able to burn 800MB disc?06:56
rekageetergod: you wouldn't be using xmms and totem at the same time would you?06:56
JayLv99Hello, where can I find a version of ubuntu that I can just download to my harddrive then install w/out burning it to CD?06:56
geetergodno06:56
geetergodreka, no06:56
matjan_alright, i guess i'll try that then06:56
traumagood luck06:57
psychonateMy friend gave me an old Dell Optiplex 900mhz celeron that he wasn't using. Well, it has two free PCI slots because it has onboard video, sound, NIC; however, Dell does not want you to add cards that easily; (I assume they want you to buy a whole new PC from them rather than upgrade it yourself.) so, they have the slots blocked off with some metal.06:57
DeffyI am using a wifi connnection with a USB Wifi thingy, now it didn't seem to work with the LiveCD, is there anything I'll have to do in the full version to get it to work?06:57
sleptups, I'm not sure -I never tried it , but cdrecord should do it06:57
matjan_thanks06:57
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Funzoor can anyone reccomend a cheap usb wifi card that is supported under ubuntu06:57
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psychonatewell, this did not phase me06:57
rekageetergod: hmmm, have you restarted the computer?06:57
keltosi got a realplayer 10 prob, where can i get help?06:57
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PithlitDeffy: prolly recompile the kernel06:57
psychonateI got some heavy-ass bolt cutters06:57
geetergodreka, yes06:57
psychonateripped that damn metal off06:57
PithlitDeffy: if it is at all supported06:57
psychonatetwo free PCI slots now heh06:57
PithlitDeffy: gimme the model number06:57
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rekageetergod: ok, one of the 1st things i do after ubuntu install is to install totem-xine06:58
JayLv99Hello, where can I find a version of ubuntu that I can just download to my harddrive then install w/out burning it to CD?06:58
gskilletI pulled my wireless network card out of the port on my laptop to read a number off of it, and it removed eth1 from my Network settings, and upon re-insertion of the card (and reboot) it has not been detected again automatically, how can I get my Wireless card to show up again in Network settings? (there is no Add button like it shows in Help)06:58
rekageetergod: it uses the xine backend rather than the default gstreamer06:58
geetergodreka, the sound stopped when i was in Volume Control and did something with Multi Track Internal Clock06:58
DeffyWell it's a Belkin wireless adaptor 802.11g06:58
geetergodreka, i have xine, is totem-xine different/06:59
Deffyall I happen to have on it06:59
PithlitJayLv99: what's stopping you from burning the damn cd?06:59
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rekageetergod: same program, different backend. try it, you can always jsut go back if you want.06:59
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geetergodk06:59
=== Vurdak np: aphex twin - xtal
rekageetergod: actaully hang on06:59
JayLv99Pithlit: my crappy computer doesn't want to run from CD when I try it ;/07:00
rekageetergod: sorry misread it.  does xine work?07:00
PithlitDeffy: model number?07:00
JayLv99I've already burned the ISO image to disk twice07:00
JayLv99and it won't run.07:00
geetergodreka, xine plays video but no sound07:00
PithlitJayLv99: get a boot floppy, put it in, put the cd in and reboot07:00
JayLv99where would I get a boot floppy?07:00
DeffyF50705007:00
Pithlitgimme a sec07:00
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rekageetergod: hmm, well you've isolated it to an effect from changing vol. control setting.  do you know what you did?07:01
Deffyother then that box and manual just say Belkin 802.11g Wifi Adaptor07:01
upsslept, thank, i'll look into it07:01
geetergodreka, no i dont :(07:01
sleptups, good luck07:01
gskilletAnybody know why Ubuntu would remove my Wireless card from Network settings when I unplugged it? Now i cant get it back07:01
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geetergodreka, what command do i use to use totem-xine?07:02
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PithlitJayLv99: http://freeweb.siol.net/pithlit/morphixboot_02.img07:02
rekageetergod: once you install it, 'totem'.07:02
geetergodk07:02
geetergodreka, it started07:03
sleptwhat might be the reason for - kernelpanic unable to mount rootfs07:03
rekageetergod: it replaces totem-gstreamer with totem-xine07:03
rekageetergod: the install, that is07:03
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sleptwhat are the things I can look for07:03
geetergodreka, its playing the video but no sound07:03
PithlitDeffy: Your search - belkin f507050 - did not match any documents.07:03
Pithlitare you sure that's the model07:04
rekaslept: tried #kernel-panic?07:04
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forsaker8k6hi guys... does someone know where i can find an ac3 filter to play videos with ac3 audio?07:04
DeffyPithlit: I'm sure, the box and the manual just call it "Wireless G USB Network Adaptor"07:05
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Deffyoops07:05
Deffymy bad07:05
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gskilletwaiting for help: Wireless Card (eth1) disappeared from Ubuntu, and now Wireless Card is: No device found - All resulted from removing and re-inserting Netgear MA401 PCMIA 802.11B wireless card07:05
PhantomFreakGnome has an applet for CPUfreq in /usr/lib/gnome-applets... Does anyone know how to get it to work?07:05
rekageetergod: i dunno....  you'll have to try and undo the vol. control setting you did :-/  if you decide to reinstall, i'd at least try the ubguide fix before you do.07:05
geetergodreka, any idears?07:05
DeffyF5D705007:05
Pithlitk07:05
Pithlitlooking07:05
geetergodreka, ok07:05
rekageetergod: that's all i've got sorry.07:05
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forsaker8k6i guess no one here knows... thanks anyway :)07:05
geetergodreka, thanks anyway! i'll get it to work somehow07:06
wizzardpls, where can I find all the debian packages? I would like to download preview version of KOffice 1.4 with Krita program07:06
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rekaPhantomFreak: it doesn't work, or you don't know how to run it?07:06
xozforsaker8k6: apt-cache search ac307:06
geetergodreka, i just noticed the sound thing on the taskbar isnt even there07:06
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rekawizzard: don't.  using debian packages is a no-no afaik07:06
forsaker8k6tnx xoz i'll try ;)07:06
PhantomFreakWell it apears to run, ish! But I don't know how to get gnome to load applets!07:06
wizzardreka, what do you mean? I should not use debian packages?07:07
rekageetergod: hmm, maybe find the vol. control package and reinstall it via synaptic07:07
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dadanFailed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gcc-3.4/gcc-3.4-base_3.4.3-9ubuntu4_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch07:07
dadanE: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?07:07
xozwizzard: ubuntu is based on debian but packages version differs07:07
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rekawizzard: yes.  i think i saw someone warned about that07:07
dadanhow i can fix it07:07
rekadadan: what are you tryng to do?07:07
wizzardok, so you think it is possible to find any source with preview KOffice packages?07:08
dadani'm trying to install gcc07:08
rekadadan: install build-essential07:08
PhantomFreakSo... Does anyone have any idea about this gnome applet?07:08
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rekaPhantomFreak: right click on panel-> add to panel07:08
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PithlitDeffy: you're gonna need this http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page07:08
rekaPhantomFreak: those are applets. :-] 07:08
gskilletwaiting for help: Wireless Card (eth1) disappeared from Ubuntu, and now Wireless Card is: No device found - All resulted from removing and re-inserting Netgear MA401 PCMIA 802.11B wireless card07:08
PhantomFreakIt said that in some of the files! Which panel?07:09
rekaPhantomFreak: top or bottom07:09
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DeffyPithlit: Thanks :)07:09
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rekaPhantomFreak: panel/taskbar07:09
orhshey all i have a HP pavilion ze2000 laptop, i have installed ndiswrapper but i need the proper drivers... can anyone help me provide thoose drivers?07:09
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xozgskillet: reinsert again and make sure it is properly stuck07:09
rekawizzard: why koffice?07:09
PithlitDeffy: np07:09
gskilletxoz: it is, light is on and everything07:10
PhantomFreakShit, that was easy! Wish I realised that earlier... I've been trying to get that to work for a while!07:10
wizzardcause I would like to have some simple graphics program07:10
xozgskillet: dmesg07:10
gskilletxoz: i removed the card and re-inserted it, now Ubuntu cant and will not recognize something as being there07:10
marinI have a problem: My laptop doesn't power off when I try to halt the system07:10
rekaPhantomFreak: hehe.  well you won't forget where gnome applets are now, won't you?07:10
wizzardI have KOffice 1.3.5, but there is no good graphics program07:10
traumamarin: I've got the same problem07:10
gskilletxoz: dmesg only returns eth0 (my onboard ethernet)07:10
rekawizzard: graphics?07:10
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xozgskillet: modprobe <module for wireless>07:11
wizzardI dont like Gimp07:11
PhantomFreakreka Very True!07:11
marinjust restart the system07:11
dadanhow i can install tcl07:11
Pithlitomg how can you not like gimp ?07:11
rekawizzard: KOffice 1.3.5 is the current official KOffice release.07:11
rekafrom the website07:11
gskilletxoz: no return07:11
traumamarin: I believe you need to add 'apm' to /etc/modules07:11
xozgskillet: and /etc/init.d/networking restart07:11
reka1.3.5 is in the repos07:11
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wizzardI was used to Windoze apps07:11
wizzardand prefer KDE to Gnome07:11
traumanot sure if that works though07:12
orhsanyone got the drivers for A broadcom BCM4306 802.11b wireless lan controller?07:12
xozgskillet: lsmod | grep <wireless modul>07:12
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Lafitte-hola07:12
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marinhow can I do that?07:13
xozorhs: google what driver is used for that07:13
traumain a terminal, as root, enter 'gedit /etc/modules07:13
Pithlitorhs: afaik broadcom won't work with linux07:13
traumaand add 'apm' to it07:13
traumadon't forget to save07:13
dadanhow i can install tcl07:13
PithlitI might be wrong tho07:13
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orhspithlit, yes it will becuase i did this one time before but i dont remember what i did07:13
Darcamon07:13
ren0Hello. I reinstalled a couple of days ago with hoary and now I have no sound.07:13
Pithlitorhs: my bad then07:14
rekawizzard: what's wrong with the gimp?  what exactly do you need?07:14
marinOk, i'm going to try07:14
orhsxoz, i have googled it but i just found forums with help on how to do it not any links for downloading07:14
marinthanks07:14
xozorhs: http://www.broadcom.com/drivers/driver-sla.php?driver=4401-Linux07:14
traumano problem, good luck07:14
ren0Yes the volume is up and its not muted.07:14
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wizzardI want something like Paint Shop Pro in Windoze07:14
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kevogodIf I have Fedora installed on one hard drive and install Ubuntu to the other, will Ubuntu recognize Fedora and add it to Grub?07:14
DarcamoI have problems with sound too. Sometimes when i boot the computer i have no sound. Then i just reboot until i get sound07:14
erbhello07:14
wizzardreka: I dont like Gimp environment07:15
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xozorhs: you know what driver it uses? try module-assistant07:15
ren0I have this error in the multimedia selector: Failed to construct test pipeline for 'ESD - Enlightenment Sound Daemon'07:15
sam_xoz: reconfigure did not add the wireless card, i think i have the pcmia, prism, orinoco's on modprobe07:15
rekawizzard: how complex are you going to get?  are you happy with something like ms paint?07:15
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ren0Failed to construct test pipeline for 'OSS - Open Sound System07:15
xozsam_: iwconfig ?07:15
wizzardreka, nope, but I saw the animations of Krita, it looks very impressive07:16
orhsxoz it uses bcm4306 driver, and its a WLAN card not a eth card :P07:16
orhsbrb07:16
sam_xoz: iwconfig returns lo, eth0, sit0, but no eth107:16
Pithlitorhs: http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2004/11/msg00423.html07:16
sleptkevogod, make sure you don't have grub installed twice that will cause strange problems ,  grub will find everything with grub-update07:16
xozsam_: is it eth1?07:16
Pithliterr...07:16
ren0Darcamo, thanks for the tip but I have rebooted several times now.07:16
sam_xoz: it was before it disappeared07:16
xozsam_: modprobe -r orinoco ... the modprobe orinoco07:17
xozsam_: iwconfig again07:17
kevogodslept: OK Thanks.07:17
sam_xoz: says orinoco is in use07:17
xozsam_: modprobe -r orinoco_pci07:18
sam_xoz: modprobe has no return, but -r says in use07:18
xozsam_: modprobe -r orinoco07:18
rekafor those with SOUND problems: http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly (use as last resort, it *may* cause problems)07:18
DarcamoI noticed that when i have no sound, the "dsp" device in /dev doesn't exist. Only dsp1. I try the comand MAKEDEV dsp in /dev, but it didn't workout either.07:18
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xozsam_: lsmod | grep orinoco07:18
xozsam_: remove those with orinoco prefix07:18
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rekawizzard: i hate kde apps. so i can't really help you i reckon.  i'm happy with the gimp.07:19
ren0reka, thanks I'll look at that07:19
traumamarin: did it work?07:19
marinok07:19
xozs/gimp/gnome07:19
wizzardreka: I love KDE and hate Gnome, but thank you very much anyway07:19
marinthe problem have been solved07:19
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rekawizzard: try asking at #kubuntu or #kde07:20
Zzzippohi all07:20
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sam_xoz: i did modprobe -r for orinoco and orinoco_cs07:20
sam_xoz: the two that showed for lsmod grep orinoco07:20
Zzzippoubuntu live cd wont boot ;(07:20
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wizzardreka: yeah, I tried kubuntu, but kde channel is a good idea, I will try07:20
xozsam_: ah, then try modprobe inserting them again... orinoco is buggy.07:20
rekagood luck07:20
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Riddellwizzard: there are packages of koffice 1.4 beta for kubuntu07:21
xozsam_: i prefer hostap... although it is not in the official kernel07:21
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sam_xoz: my card is pcmcia but i thikn thats the same as orinoco07:21
wizzardRiddell: do you know where?07:21
xozsam_: orinoco_cs ... for pcmcia07:21
xozsam_: orinoco_pci ... for internal07:21
sam_xoz: yeah got it07:22
mp_is there anyting like InfoCentre in Ubuntu to view processor type, RAm etc?07:22
sam_xoz: now that ive re-inserted them how do i get the eth1 back?07:22
xozsam_: the painful but easiest way is to reboot and avoid removing the card.07:22
Riddellwizzard: deb http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/unstable/koffice-1.4-beta1/kubuntu/ ./07:22
SeveasTh4tBa5t4rd, still down07:22
Seveasnarf, sorry07:22
sam_xoz: i know i should have but i forgot, stupid thing still isnt showing up07:22
wizzardRiddell, thank you very much07:22
xozsam_: try iwconfig eth1... or restart your network07:22
sam_xoz ok07:23
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sam_xoz: eth1      No such device07:23
lukinsdoes ubuntu dvd contain all ubuntu packages?07:23
PhantomFreakOK... So I'm back, the applet is visible, but it isn't showing anything usefull!07:23
xozsam_: what kernel version?07:23
sam_xoz: how to i label it as eth1 again, i dont think ive had a chance to tell it that i want it to be eth107:23
rekamp_: cat /proc/cpuinfo07:23
sam_3.107:23
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xozsam_: apt-get install ifrename07:24
rekamp_: cat /proc/meminfo07:24
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xozor edit /etc/network/interfaces07:24
sam_xoz ok07:24
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PhantomFreakHas anyone else tried to get this applet to work?07:25
sam_xoz: i have eth0, but its my onboard ethernet07:25
sam_xoz: thats the only thing its letting me rename07:25
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sam_xoz: its still not detecting that i have a PCMCIA since i pulled it out07:25
rekalukins: i'm guessing no.07:26
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sam_xoz: when i installed ubuntu, the first or second screen that it gave me was a choice on which card to use to download packages, it was able to detect both -- can i get to this screen again? (base-config or something?)07:26
StargazerGood morning.. perhaps someone can tell me what I'm doing wrong.. I'm running 5.04 PPC and I'm trying to watch divx's.. I've installed totem-xine, and I've installed vlc.. with both of them the video displays fine but no audio plays at all... what am I doing wrong??07:27
lukinsdoes anyone here have the ubuntu dvd? does it contain all ubuntu packages?07:27
rekawhere's thoreaputic when you need him?07:28
sam_xoz: im going to reboot with the re-inserted orinoco07:28
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mgcrosshello all07:28
mgcrossAny South Koreans in the house?07:28
dennis_hello, there. I installed Ubuntu last night when I was a little drunk, but I don't recall setting a password for root? Is there a default?07:28
Rap-to-Ubuntu#/dialog  xxxxxxxxxxxxx07:28
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crimsundennis_: see the topic faq regarding root07:29
Pithlitdennis_: yeah... default is - no root07:29
dennis_thx07:29
mgcrossdennis...sudo pass will be the same as your account pass07:29
rekaStargazer: try this: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SoundProblemsHoary07:29
refuze2loozedennis_: there is no root account, when it asks for your root password enter your user password07:29
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dennis_any idea why when type 'chkconfig' I get command not found?07:30
crimsundennis_: it's not red hat07:30
crimsunubuntu doesn't ship with chkconfig07:31
Ngdebian based systems use update-rc.d to do the equivalent things07:31
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radxxhey all07:31
mgcrossHi07:31
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radxxI managed to get Gnome/Xorg working at last :D07:32
rekaradxx: how did you go?07:32
toresberadxx: grats07:32
radxxbut... it meant putting the resolution down to 1024x76807:32
dennis_sorry I am relatively new to linux07:32
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rekaradxx: why?07:32
radxxso I'm sitting here with a 20" lcd with everything about double normal size07:32
Pithlitdennis_: nothing to be sorry about... just don't ever lose your sense of humor :P07:33
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radxxI have no idea, but it either would not display anything or be a corrupt image if I tried to run it in 1600x120007:33
refuze2loozeradxx: are you sure you got the horizontal and vertical sync rate of your monitor right?07:34
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naliothreka we still on about fast browsers?07:34
orhsi have just installed Ndiswrapper now, but i want my WLAN card(BCM4306) to be installed... the drivers i need is BCM4306.inf and BCM4306.inf2 <--- i think thats the driver name07:34
rekanalioth: sure.  i'm curious.07:34
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synddillo is fast :>07:34
naliothreka: did you grok what i sent u earlier?07:34
rekayou sent me something?07:35
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ren0Thanks whoever gave me the www.ubuntuguide.org tip about the sound. Its working now07:35
naliothsynd: someone was in here earlier lookin for dillo with fltk07:35
gpledis their a cad or drafting program for ubuntu?07:35
ren0qcad07:36
radxxthat may have been the problem, I tried ultra conservative settings and then it worked. What should the sync rates be like for a Viewsonic 20" lcd? It was just a bit confusing in the config program when it was listing the top possible refresh rates with (1280x1024) resolution after.07:36
ren0there is also Linuxcad ut its a commercial program07:36
ren0but07:36
syndnalioth: ever tried Lynx?07:36
gpledthink qcad is commercial now too.07:36
goldfishanyone ever heard of the programming language chef ?07:36
rekaren0: that was me.  good to hear it fixed it.07:37
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schasigoldfish: yes me07:37
Burgundaviagpled, qcad can be gpl and commercial07:37
refuze2loozeradxx: you should see your monitor's manual. it should have the sync rates there.. or check the company's website, or maybe it says it on the back of your monitor07:37
gskilletxoz: no luck... still only has my onboard ethernet07:37
naliothsynd: i use self-compiled links from twibright labs. i compile with --with-graphics and --enable-javascript07:37
goldfishschasi: hehe, very amusing :) nearly as mad as piet07:37
ren0A google for linux and cad should give you some good links07:37
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naliothsynd: lynx is for your grandpop07:37
schasigoldfish: Go to wikipedia for a whole bunch ofem07:37
goldfishhttp://www.weavedigital.com/guess-the-google/?l=107:37
goldfishgoogle game07:38
goldfishfun :)07:38
syndheh heh07:38
goldfishschasi: yeah just read the page, quite funny :)07:38
schasitried brainfuck for some time07:38
IIIEarsradxx -If you have the FCC ID# you can find out -everythinng- about what is inside your monitor.07:38
naliothreka: are you familier with compilation of source code?07:38
gskilletyou know whats really sad, the only way to get ubuntu to find my PCMCIA wireless card is to re-install?07:38
ren0gpled "sudo apt-get install qcad" It works07:38
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rekanalioth: you mean configure, make and make install?07:39
ren0It will appear in your Graphics Applications07:39
gskilletcan you believe i have to re-install ubuntu because i removed a PCMCIA wireless card and put it back in?  ubuntu cant plug and play07:39
IIIEarsThe FCC ID# is printed on a lot of other parts motherboards too. - check that number on the FCC.gov site07:39
naliothreka: well, i use checkinstall isntead of make install (keeps the ol' system a little cleaner)07:39
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syndgskillet: no07:39
rekanalioth: well why don't the readmes tell you that?07:40
gskilletsynd: it wont detect my PCMCIA card anymore, it doesnt find it at all07:40
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naliothreka: what readmes?07:40
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syndgskillet: i pull my PCMCIA card out all the time07:40
gskilletsynd: i re-inserted orinoco drivers, but it still only has my onboard card07:40
jyrkijust installed lates version of Ubuntu. Problems with screen resolution setting. System->Settings->Screen Resolution application does not allow to set more than 1024x768, 60Hz. I'm using oly GUI at the moment. I have GeForce5200FX and Nokia 447Xi monitor. In windows I use 1280x1024 with 90Hz so this should work here also07:40
gpledren0:  E: Package qcad has no installation candidate07:40
syndgskillet: whats wrong with the onboard card? or is that not wireless?07:40
gskilletsynd: after removing my PCMCIA card once, it removed all references to it on the computer, the onboard is ethernet07:41
rekanalioth: when you compile programs from source.  they usually have README files.07:41
gskilletsynd: my wireless use to be eth1, now eth1 = No device found07:41
syndgskillet: hm, mine is wlan007:41
refuze2loozejyrki: you have to edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add that resolution to your modes. also make sure your vertical and horiz sync rates are correct07:41
naliothreka: and the choice of "make install" and "checkinstall" is entirely left to the user07:41
gskilletsynd: what did u do to add it07:41
syndgskillet: did you have to use ndiswrapper?07:42
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gskilletsynd: no i selected it on the first-question of the ubuntu install07:42
rekanalioth: true i guess.07:42
gskilletsynd: it showed my onboard and my wireless and let me select07:42
gskilletsynd: now the wireless is gone completely and only eth0 onboard remains07:42
krapnekhello there, anybody in here familiar with Lilo error: L 99 99 99.....?07:42
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jyrkiHow I can system to do this automatically?07:43
krapneki don't know how to force lab32 booting07:43
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gskilletsynd: so i need to manually install the PCMCIA card again, i re-installed the drivers but its still not detecting it07:43
syndgskillet: if it detects during install, theres no reason why it shouldnt now.07:43
gskilletsynd: No device found. :/07:43
rekaubotu: tell jyrki about fixres07:43
syndgskillet: did you reboot? ie shutdown, wait a min and restart?07:43
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gskilletsynd: yes this happend a few days ago ive been trying to fix it since07:43
anacronhey guys what's wrong when i can't add volume control to my panel, where can i change my volume?07:43
rekajyrki: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:43
gskilletsynd: i actually had this problem before, and only re-installing ubuntu fixed it07:44
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IIIEarskrapnek - lilo failed and corrupted your MBR. going to need a disk util or dd to rewrite it.07:44
ren0gpled, you may need to add more repositories: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories07:44
gskilletsynd: but i have come too far on this install and i dont want to start over07:44
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Kartagishello07:44
gskilletsynd: its like the only way for it to see my card is thru that first screen during install07:44
anacronhello fellow07:44
syndgskillet: its absurd that you have to reinstall for it to be seen07:44
rekaanacron: apps->sound&vid07:44
krapnekIIIEars: not possible by "lilo -L"07:45
anacronreka: ok tnx07:45
syndgskillet: what happens if you shutdown completely and not take it out?07:45
StargazerWhat do I need to install to get totem player to play mp3's?07:45
ren0Then sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade and then you can install the program07:45
KartagisI want to retrieve a package without retrieving its dependencies. how?07:45
syndgskillet: it still works upon reboot?07:45
gskilletsynd: i turn it back on and i still cant use wireless, only ethernet works07:45
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gskilletsynd: no it hasnt worked since i pulled it out and put it back in07:45
rekaStargazer: gstreamer0.8-mad iirc07:45
KartagisStargazer: apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad07:45
anacronreka: heh, "error registry is not present or it is corrupted, please update it blaa blaa"07:45
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rekaStargazer: did you get sound working?07:45
gskilletsynd: the card is still good, light is on and everything07:45
syndgskillet: no i meant back when it did work07:45
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radxxright just having a bash at setting the refresh rates, hopefully this is going to work...07:46
gskilletsynd: yeah it worked fine reboot shutdown etc, only on removal did it stop07:46
Ubuntianthere we go, IP numbers assigned and printer shared! now the NFS stuff... :-)07:46
naliothStargazer: www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats07:46
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ren0Stargazer: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories07:46
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rekaanacron: sounds like you've got bigger problems...07:46
syndgskillet: thats very very odd07:46
anacronvoice control says i have to run gts-register, but terminal says command not found :/07:46
syndgskillet: i remove my pcmcia card all the time07:46
anacronreka: well seems so, anyway sounds work fine, i just can't adjust the volume in linux07:47
rekaanacron: voice control?07:47
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erbhello07:47
anacronreka: volume*07:47
gskilletsynd: yeah its making me crazy07:47
radxxcan I just hit ctrl+alt+backspace to restart gdm and then will it load the new xorg.conf ?07:47
rekaanacron: sys->prefs->k/b shortcuts07:47
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gskilletsynd: i just need to re-add the card manually but i dont know how - other than re-insert Orinoco PCMCIA drivers which i did07:48
naliothreka: <voice>Send Money Now</voice>07:48
rekaanacron: add one for volume up and volume down07:48
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anacronreka: ok, i'll try that :D07:48
rekanalioth: heh07:48
erbis there any kind of gui-app what i can use to enable/disable network services on my machine?07:48
syndgskillet: yeah07:48
IIIEarskrapnek - http://lists.ethernal.org/cantlug-0208/msg00155.html - this should help.07:48
gskilletsynd: eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device07:49
Kartagisradxx: yeah07:49
radxxthanks, brb07:49
gskilletsynd: SIOCSIFADDR: No such device07:49
rekaUbuntian: how so?07:49
krapnekIIIEars: thank you for advice. im a real newbie but try my best07:49
naliothreka: ya find the checkinstall page? its in your repos, btw07:49
krapnekwill tell you if it works, IIIEars07:49
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IIIEarskrapnek - It gets easier. - thank god... - lol07:50
KartagisI want to retrieve a package without retrieving its dependencies. how?07:50
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Ubuntianreka, because it smells new, it's fast, the keybord feels nice, well i love it07:50
rekanalioth: i did an apt-cache show .. i don't install many things by source anyway, but what's the diff b/n it and normal make install?07:50
jyrkiThanks, I'll read instructions from: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:50
erbsby. can help me?07:50
naliothUbuntian: if you are male, we hope you don't use it on your actual lap07:50
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orhsi dont find the driver(s) for my Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller07:51
naliothreka: checkinstall makes debs (not worth a crap to anyone but you) so the system can keep up with WHERE all the custom stuff is installed07:51
mjrorhs, there isn't07:51
radxxwooohoooo, native resolution at last :D07:51
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naliothreka: beats havin to go thru /usr/local/* to clean out the old versions of hand compiled stuff07:52
rekanalioth: ah. so you make a deb and install using dpkg?07:52
anacronreka: keyboard shortcuts won't change volume, even they try07:52
radxxthanks everyone for your help in solving my xorg problems07:52
naliothreka: checkinstall makes the deb AND installs it. What a deal, eh?07:52
rekaanacron: sounds like vol. control is stuffed then. :-/07:52
rekanalioth: nice.  *makes note*07:52
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orhsmjr yes there is... i just installed ndis to make it eat the drivers but i dont find the drivers07:52
anacronreka: can i reinstall it?07:52
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naliothreka: then you save the deb it made off to a source directory and ya dont have to recompile after you reinstall or if you build/get an idientical machine07:53
rekaanacron: dunno.  it might be integrated, try and look for the package.07:53
ksozeso I asked this late at night, but never mid day (in this part of the world): any good sound recording packages out there that just work (no need to kill or replace esd)?07:53
anacronreka: yeah, i'll try to07:53
rekanalioth: cool.  i guess that makes uninstalling cleaner too.07:53
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dennis_if I download a driver for windows in self-extracting .exe format is there a way to extract the files from it under linux?07:54
IIIEarsubotu ubuntu07:54
ubotuIIIEars: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?07:54
StargazerReka: Yup.. got sound working.. the video is  jumpy.. but that probably is because of my weak processor...  Also, I've got white shimmering pixels that show up in the video everywhere.. any idea why?07:54
naliothreka: yes cuz the dpkg database keeps track of where all the crap went07:54
IIIEars!status07:54
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ksozeI tried audacity, and it hates esd07:54
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rekaIIIEars: the dbase seems to have been wiped.  all of my info i feeded was gone07:54
anacrondennis_: you can try with wine07:55
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rekathanks07:55
rekathat's pretty darn useful07:55
dennis_oh man, this is getting complicated07:55
ksozesweep has the strange limitation of making you set the file length up front07:55
naliothreka: i'm an old dog, but some new tricks just make sense07:55
anacron:D07:55
rekaStargazer: jumpy in videos? or DVD?07:55
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IIIEarsreka - there seems to be a backup. wondering if cafuego has noticed07:55
naliothreka: do you know how to build your own ubuntu pkgs?07:55
ksozeMaybe this is the wrong platform.07:56
naliothIIIEars: its all your fault, you tease that poor bot so07:56
ksozeit does a lot of things very well07:56
pfpdennis_: self-extracting zip files can be opened with 'zip' or 'unzip'07:56
rekanalioth: nope.  i haven't written any s/ware...07:56
ksozejust not this07:56
erbhow can i start/stop network services?07:56
naliothreka: no software knowledge needed07:56
dennis_good to know pfp. thx07:56
IIIEarsnalioth - ubotu likes "encapsulated quotes"07:56
Stargazerreka: Playing a divx off my cd.. I'm going to try copying the avi to the hard drive.. perhaps it's the cd not having dma enabled or something..  I'm only on a G3 333 powerbook.. so it's not the quickest thing around.07:56
rekanalioth: uh, i'd assume you would if you're making a package yourself.07:56
anacronpfp: yeah, but how 'bout exe installs?07:56
rekaStargazer: yep, DMA is not enabled.07:57
rekaby default on ubuntu07:57
onnoIf I install ubuntu or kubuntu on a windows machine. Wil ubuntu resize my harddisk07:57
rekaiirc07:57
naliothreka: using "apt-get source -b <pkgname>" you can build your own ubuntu binary (if the proggy you are looking for isnt available as a binary, but the source is07:57
onnoso that windows have a partition and ubuntu07:57
rekaonno: yep, just select the size value of the windows partition and you can resize it.  just make sure you backup your data07:57
anacronStargazer: you should enable dma instead copying all your movie files to harddrive :)07:57
naliothreka: i run PPC and there are lots of binaries not available for me07:58
rekaonno: the size value in the partitioning stage in ubuntu's install that is.07:58
pfpanacron: dont know, probably job for wine then07:58
anacronpfp: yeah, as i said07:58
onnoits on a new computer07:58
rekareka: see, *you* are the guru on the top of the mountain buddy. :-)07:58
anacronisn't that a bit weird to say that to yourself07:59
Zzzippoi must not be burning the linux cds correctly cause they aint booting ;-(07:59
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rekanalioth: : see, *you* are the guru on the top of the mountain buddy. :-)08:00
rekahehe08:00
rekaanacron: whatchu talkin' 'bout?08:00
Kartagisis dpkg --ignore-depends=phpmyadmin --instdir=/www a correct syntax08:01
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anacronreka: < reka> reka: <- that08:02
rekaanacron: yes i suppose it was weird wasn't it?08:03
anacronnah, actually it was somewhat hilarious08:03
IIIEarsZzzzippo - are you using k3b?08:03
Kartagisguys, is dpkg --ignore-depends=phpmyadmin --instdir=/www a correct syntax08:03
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anacronreka: it's like faking yourself :D08:04
IIIEarsZzzzippo - gnomebaker is pretty straightforward08:04
orhscan anyone help me with installing my WLAN card?08:04
soulflyanyone know how to build a source package (xorg) with athlon optimization?08:04
rekaanacron: you've never done a typo?08:05
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orhsi got a HP pavilion ze200008:06
IIIEarsZzzzippo - if gnomebaker doesn't do it for you i'll buy you lunch. (Is a FAXED flat bread sandwich okay?)08:06
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radxxhmm how do I fix Rhythmbox to play mp3 files? I get the error "There is no element present to handle the stream's mime type application/x-id308:06
ksozehrm...08:06
GazaMgo to synaptic and download the gstreamer-mad plugin08:06
radxxthanks08:06
zenroxradxx,  read www.ubuntuguide.org08:07
rekaradxx: wiki/RestricedFormats08:07
anacronreka: well actually i think i make typo's in every english phrase i write08:07
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airoxHi!08:07
anacronhello!08:07
GazaMI agree with zenrox, the ubuntuguide.org is great for this type of thing08:07
Seveasubuntuguide is bad08:07
airoxI'm compiling rivatv modules and get an error about wrong GCC version. Would it harm to alter the configure script so it skips this check ?08:07
rekaanacron: well then give me a break please. :-)08:07
anacronSeveas: why08:08
GazaMPS, just downloaded vlc, it's far better than totem, mplayer or xine IMO08:08
crimsunairox: generally a bad idea08:08
Seveasmisinformation, no explanations...08:08
anacronGazaM: i totally agree08:08
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Seveasand plain errors08:08
airoxCan I paste 4 lines here with the error ?08:08
crimsunairox: use #flood08:08
GazaManacron, what's your opinion on vlc?08:08
mp_which desktop should one choose with 192Mb RAM - which is lightest, but still useable?08:08
IIIEarsIf you get into display trouble or are just stuck at the command line "links" will let you look at ubuntuguide to make things right.08:08
anacronGazaM: that it's all you need08:08
airoxcrimsun: Did you saw it ?08:09
crimsunairox: you DON'T want to ignore that08:09
GazaMexactly, it's great08:09
GazaM... although the mozilla plugin isn't08:09
airoxcrimsun: How would I get it compiled ? Using gcc 3.3.... ?08:09
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rekaGazaM: i've heard it's good.  but isn't it gtk1?08:10
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wikichipihola08:10
GazaMGuys, in xchat how can I change the colour of my typing... reka, vlc isn't gtk1, i think it's gtk208:10
rekamp_: xfce4 is nice.  fluxbox maybe...08:10
wikichipihi?08:10
wikichipihey08:10
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crimsunairox: correct08:10
rekaGazaM: settings prefs.08:11
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wikichipithere is anyone that can tell me how to install on ubuntu08:11
airoxcrimsun: So I should just use the normal GCC that comes with ubuntu ?08:11
GazaMreka, which setting? I can't change it08:11
wikichipi?08:11
mp_reka: cheers, and wmaker? opinion?08:11
crimsunairox: no, you should use CC=gcc-3.3 ...08:11
airoxah oke08:11
GazaMI've tried08:11
crimsunairox: familiarise yourself with rivatv's build system and tell it to use gcc-3.3 instead08:12
airoxcrimsun: check #flood08:12
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rekainterface->colors  (hint: use settings->advanced->textevents to match up the number index with the event you want to change)08:12
rekamp_: never tried it.08:12
airoxIt's the same GCC version now isn't it ?08:12
Kartagisguys, I want to retrieve a single package to a specific location without retrieving its dependencies. how do I do that?08:13
pfpKartagis: you can extract (!= install) packages with dpkg-deb08:14
SeveasKartagis, use a browser and go to packages.ubuntu.com08:14
GazaMOk I think i did it08:14
GazaMnope08:14
mp_reka: ok, thx08:14
GazaMok08:15
GazaMNope08:15
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Kartagisthanks pfp and Seveas08:15
crimsunairox: as long as 3.3.5 is used for both, you're fine08:15
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anacronwhoa, i seems like my soundservice crashed08:15
anacronwhat was the command to kill it?08:16
rekakillall esd08:16
crimsunyou don't need no stinkin sound service anyhow :p08:16
GazaMAnyone here know how to make gtk1 apps look nicer, I'm using dvd::rip and looking at it is crap08:16
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anacroncrimsun: well i'd like to hear something while watching videos08:16
rekaGazaM: did you ask this yesterday?08:16
bob2GazaM: port it to gtk208:16
bob2there's nothing else you can do08:16
GazaMno08:17
dennis_can someone tell me how to install linux headers08:17
GazaMI can't port it to gtk208:17
rekaGazaM: what bob2 said.  gtk1 apps are ugly.08:17
crimsundennis_: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)08:17
bob2GazaM: then you'll have to deal, unfortauntely08:17
bob2GazaM: or use thoggen, which is awesome08:17
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crimsunanacron: is your player configured to use esd?08:17
GazaMthoggen? I'll check that out now08:17
bob2(and gtk2)08:17
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bob2you want to find the mmx-enabled theora libs, tho08:18
dennis_awesome, thanks crimsun08:18
anacroncrimsun: i don't have any idea, but i think so08:18
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crimsunanacron: which player are you using?08:19
anacronvlc08:19
anacronkilling esd won't work08:19
anacronmaybe i have to kill it by pid08:19
GazaMbob2, thoggen seems to use gstreamer, which means that I shouldn't really need a thoggen lib, just the gstreamer plugin08:19
onnois kubuntu as ready as ubuntu?08:19
rekaonno: i'd say so.08:19
crimsunanacron: install vlc-esd08:19
GazaMLove the fact that it uses theora08:19
crimsunanacron: or if you want to use alsa directly, install vlc-alsa08:20
anacrononno: i'd say as well that no08:20
GazaMdvd::rip doesn't support it08:20
bob2GazaM: yes, I said theora, tho08:20
bob2which gstreamer uses :)08:20
anacroncrimsun: ok08:20
crimsunanacron: if you want to use vlc-esd, however, esd will need to be running08:20
rekaonno: same thing underneath, just that kubuntu uses kde instead of gnome08:20
KartagisSeveas: do I download .deb or source?08:20
anacroncrimsun: can you tell what advantages i have running with alsa and without?08:20
rekaalsa works. :-P08:21
SeveasKartagis, .deb08:21
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crimsunanacron: using alsa directly results in better performance (better a/v sync, lower latency, ...)08:21
onnoreka, anacron why would you say no?08:21
crimsunanacron: however, using alsa directly requires more configuration by the user08:21
GazaMbob2, nice recomendation, have you used it a lot?08:21
bob2GazaM: yes08:21
rekaonno: i never said 'no'.08:22
crimsunanacron: out of the box, esd works for most things08:22
GazaMSo hows the quality, it's still at version 0.3, does it have any major bugs?08:23
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anacrononno: well i changing some themes i lost my taskbar for an exsample08:23
Seveasjudax_away, please turn that off in this channel08:23
bob2GazaM: gstreamer does all the encoding, thoggen is just a simple gui wrapper for it08:23
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anacroncrimsun: so it goes, use alsa if you can?08:23
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GazaMYes, I guess you're right08:23
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BoD_SWATbob2, My Ubuntu doesn't recognize my Pioneer DVD drive, and someone pointed out that you may hold the answer.  my problem is also described on       http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34516    (sorry for the pm)08:24
anacronhow can i check out my esd pid?08:24
orhswhat is the command for refreshing the gnome panel?08:24
orhsreloading*08:24
J0elhow can i write to my ntfs partition?08:25
seth_korhs: killall gnome-panel08:25
orhsseth_k tnx08:25
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crimsunanacron: pgrep esd08:25
rekaJ0el: i wouldn't.... not safe afaik08:25
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seth_kJ0el: I wouldn't, data corruption is possible08:25
bob2I'm not going to read the forums at this hour, sorry08:25
seth_kJ0el: if you still want to try, use captive_ntfs08:25
bob2if you post to the list, I'll try to answer in the morning08:25
r152355gholaa08:25
bob2or I'll read that if I remember08:25
J0elseth_k .. hmm so i guess ill have to convert it back to fat :\08:26
Zzzippo`08:26
r152355ghellooooo08:26
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anacroncrimsun: that won't do a thing08:26
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seth_kJ0el: recommended. No benefits in not using FAT for a windows-linux share partition08:27
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crimsunanacron: then esd isn't running08:27
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anacroncrimsun: ok08:27
BoD_SWATbob2, my Pioneer dvd reader/writer doesn't work. fstab doens't work and if I do it manually I get "special device hdc does not exist" (btw, which list?)08:27
chombeeI have an IBM laptop and just installed xfce4 on Ubuntu. The keyboard map is all wrong, does anyone know how I can change it? Is there an app out there?08:27
J0elseth_k i have xp installed on the ntfs part and most of my files are there.08:28
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anacronchombee: loadkeys <keymap you want to load>08:28
J0elwell anyway , is there a way i cud place my home directory some place else like on another drive?08:29
rekahmmm, how do you scroll the process list in 'top'?  or is that the full list?08:29
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anacronchombee: and you might wan't to change locales too so run dpkg-reconfigure locales08:29
BoD_SWATJ0el, I really don't recommend writing to NTFS. Just write to FAT32 or ext2/ext3/etc. Reading NTFS isn't a problem (doing it here)08:29
J0elBoD_SWAT, yea i can read too but cant write , thx for the warning though08:29
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GazaMCould someone tell me what colour my text is?08:30
seth_kJ0el, rather than converting the whole partition, just make a share partition so you can swap files back and forth between OSes08:30
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rekaGazaM: colour settings are LOCAL.08:30
anacronGazaM: :)08:30
anacron"white"08:30
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J0elSeth_k , yea i might just do that ..thx.08:30
seth_kJ0el, or you could use explore2fs08:31
GazaMSo how come your text is red?08:31
GazaMMines just grey08:31
seth_kJ0el, it's a windows program that lets you r/w ext2, ro ext308:31
rekaseth_k: explore2fs is useful. but could be better.08:31
J0elseth_k yea ill try that.08:31
seth_kreka, agreed. I wish it were a driver layer08:31
seth_krather than a standalone program08:31
anacronGazaM: it's local as reka said08:31
rekai wish it could copy directories :-/08:32
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GazaMok, doesn't matter anyway08:32
anacronthen why are you asking?08:32
seth_kreka, still worth a shot if you can't set up a fat partition08:32
GazaMBecause It's a bit annoying that my text is grey08:32
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GazaMI'd rather it be full black08:32
GazaMBut it's a trivial problem08:33
rekaseth_k: true.  just thought i'd vent as i had to copy a lot of files over and hadn't worked out how to use tar and gzip yet. :-)08:33
anacronGazaM: well we can't say what colour your text is, since we all have our own settings08:33
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anacronexcept if you use mirc colors08:33
GazaMI understand that, settings are LOCAL08:33
forsaker8k6a question: i'm running a 64bit ubuntu system. If i want to compile as a 32 bit application, what can i do?08:33
ksozeok, one more ask:08:33
forsaker8k6*if i want to compile a source08:34
ksozeany sound recording package that "just works" without much fiddling?08:34
lsuactiafnerforsaker8k6 : cross-compile.. but... a chroot is easier08:34
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GazaMKDE or GNOME, which one is better in peoples opinions?08:34
lsuactiafnerie, install a 32bit system somewhere and chroot to it08:34
anacroni support gnome08:34
BurgundaviaGazaM, whatever is better for you. I prefer Gnome08:34
seth_kGazaM: go to #kubuntu and ask again :D08:34
anacronbut that's just opinion08:34
GazaMI'm new to linux and use gnome cos of ubuntu, but kde looks very nice08:34
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ksozeI'm a GNOME fan08:34
GazaMBut at the same time I really like gnome08:34
forsaker8k6ok understood tnx a lot08:34
GazaMThink I'll stick with gnome08:35
GazaMVery clean08:35
forsaker8k6wow another GNOME vs KDE pre-flame08:35
anacronGazaM: i thought also that kde looks better at first, but now it actually looks worse08:35
radxxI used Gnome for the first time about 5 years ago and at that time KDE was better, now it's changed and Gnome seems a lot better imo08:35
GazaMpre-flame? It's just a question08:35
ksozebut I really want to record my guitar...08:35
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forsaker8k6but we are on #ubuntu.. here we are all gnomist08:35
lsuactiafnerblackbox > all08:35
ksozeand I'm finding that very..."frontier" territory on ubuntu08:35
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lsuactiafneractually08:35
anacronforsaker8k6: yeah right :D08:35
rebhey... im having a problem with upgrading to breezy that im not able to fix on my own08:35
lsuactiafnerblackbox < all.. and thats a good thing08:35
rekalsuactiafner: that's interesting.  i would have guessed that 32bit apps would work, they just wouldn't make full use of the h/ware.08:35
J0elGazaM, Gnome looks gr8.08:35
GazaMok, but people don't need to have a flame war just cos i asked which people liked08:36
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J0elkde looks messy.. and evrything is named k k  k k  k08:36
lsuactiafnerreka : yeh, i run 32bit appz no problem08:36
rekalsuactiafner: : sort of like an agp8x card in a 4x slot08:36
forsaker8k6you should try enlughtenment08:36
forsaker8k6enlightenment08:36
anacronGazaM: well it's like you ask if nintendo or playstation is better?08:36
lsuactiafnerubuntu has thee best emulation of all distros as i understand08:36
GazaMyeah, i noticed... konquerer, kontact08:36
GazaMetc08:36
forsaker8k6it's cool and e17 looks even better08:36
radxxJ0el: yeah, it's Krap ;)08:36
lsuactiafnerenligh' has too many menus ect08:36
firasRforsaker8k6:  not necessarily, a lot of Kubuntuists hang on out on this channel as well (such as myself) :-)08:36
lsuactiafneri like plain simple fast interface08:36
GazaManacroni like both08:36
lsuactiafneri only use firefox in the gui08:37
lsuactiafneram in console...08:37
J0elyea atleast the naming in Gnome is much sensible.08:37
ksozeok, how about this: favorite jukebox app, anyone?08:37
forsaker8k6what wm are you using lsuactiafner08:37
forsaker8k6?08:37
lsuactiafnermp3blaster (;08:37
lsuactiafnerforsaker8k6 : blackbox08:37
chombeeuhhh. I dunno what to do here. Is there any way to get GNOME to tell me what layout it uses and then set xfce to the same thing?08:37
firasRforsaker8k6:  however I won't be startin' a flame war about which is better :)08:37
ksozeI'm using FLAC encoding, not mp3, if it matters08:37
forsaker8k6firasR, i was just joking :P08:38
anacronchombee: what do you mean by layout?08:38
forsaker8k6because GNOME vs KDE is one of the most debated topics on the web i think08:38
anacronchombee: system -> pref -> themes08:38
J0elIn the live cd when you boot you get to seen an image as the loading screen ,how do i add it to my currently installed system?08:38
firasRforsaker8k6:  just teasin' back my friend :>08:38
chombeeanacron - the map of which keys cause which characters to appear. Locale. I dunno08:38
forsaker8k6:)08:38
rekachombee: US-keyboard?08:38
J0eldo i have to mess with grub there?08:38
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chombeereka - yeah I guess, but its an IBM one08:39
ksozeso are there other linux distros with better "just works" sound recording?08:39
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GazaMIs anyone here using ubuntu as a first linux distro like myself>08:39
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firasRforsaker8k6:  i can't count how many times i've jumped back and forth between KDE & Gnome08:39
goldfishGazaM: Yes.08:39
ksozeI am really hoping to use one box as a nice home demo recording thing - need not be pro-level stuff, but I don't want to spend a ton of time fidgeting with it, either08:39
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ksozeGazam: first in a long time, although I also have a Fedora box08:40
ksozeinstalled both on two machines simultaneously08:40
GazaMGoldfish and ksoze what do you think of linux so far?08:40
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ksozeI like it, but it still has some "it doesn't matter if you have to tinker a ton, becase we assume that's fun" culture that does nothing for me08:40
forsaker8k6firasR, i always used Gnome indeed08:40
forsaker8k6i tryed KDE some time ago.. but i don't liked it08:41
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GazaMksoze, I agree slightly, but I do like tinkering with config files and the terminal08:41
forsaker8k6as someone said: too many K08:41
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GazaMIt's a learning experience08:41
kano_hi, i installed nvidia binary drivers + transset08:41
goldfishGazaM: It rocks.08:41
kano_should this work with gnome or not?08:41
goldfishkano_: got xcompmgr?08:42
lxuserhi every one08:42
rekaksoze: yeah, having to tweak is annoying, but it's getting better and other benefits outweigh staying with windows08:42
GazaMgoldfish: I agree completely08:42
goldfishyou need xcompmgr to work transset kano_08:42
ksozereka: apaprently, not when it comes to sound08:42
ksozeas I've found that to be a real PITA08:42
lxuserim from Nicaragua08:42
lxuserand i need to add some packages to my ubuntu08:42
goldfishkano_: there is a howto on ubuntuforums.org , search for "compositing"08:42
kano_ok, that was missing08:42
goldfish:)08:43
GazaMI still can't believe that I am getting 1000% more functionality from a free OS than Windows08:43
ksozeAnd since it doesn't appear to be the interest of many people here or on the forums, no one really has any answers for me08:43
goldfishGazaM: ofc, linux rocks.08:43
ksozewhich isn't their fault, of course08:43
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ksozebut has me seriously considering switching OSes08:43
ksozeas I really do need this to just work08:43
goldfishlxuser: what packages?08:43
anacronheh08:43
anacronfinaly i got my sounds back08:43
ksozesound works fine...08:44
ksozebut...08:44
rekaksoze: so it's sound recording you're trying to fix?08:44
goldfishksoze: macs rock for audio stuff, producing etc...08:44
ksozeNo good recording packages do08:44
anacronvlc was running in somewhere backround stealing soundservice08:44
GazaMksoze, have you tried audacity?08:44
ksozegoldfish: I have no money for another machine08:44
firasRforsaker8k6:  funny coincidence, they just started a why do u think kde is better at #kubuntu discussion :) hehe08:44
lxuserjava08:44
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goldfishksoze: ah :/08:44
ksozeGazam: it won't play nice with esd08:44
lxuserjava runtime enviroment08:44
ksozegoldfish: and honestly, I did tons more sound work under Windows08:44
forsaker8k6firasR, stralol08:44
GazaMhave you tried the guides on ubuntuforums, they worked for me08:45
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goldfishlxuser: www.ubuntuguide.org08:45
geetergodWhoever can get my sound working, i will give them money :)08:45
GazaMjust make sure you don't have music playing cos audacity uses oss08:45
ksozeGazaM: well, I'm avoiding that.  Like I said, I was drawnt o ubuntu for "just works" ability08:45
ksozeand I want both jukebox and recording on the same machine08:45
rekagoldfish: i'd recommend this instead for java install: http://serios.net/content/debian/java/with-java-package.php08:45
asew34im stuck at 25% at install at the "configuring apt"...im sure you've all been asked, but i cant fix it, can someone please help me?08:45
ksozeI am trying to make this a unified music box08:45
rekaapparently the ubguide steps suck08:45
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GazaMthe guide will allow you to use oss emulation in alsa, trust me the guides not hard, just copy and paste stuff08:45
lxuserthere's alist of packages?08:46
geetergodreka, is there a way i can just reset everything? even if i lose my stuff? ide do it08:46
airoxWhere is the modules.conf in ubuntu ?08:46
crimsunlxuser: packages.ubuntu.com08:46
ksozeGazaM: but I can't play music then?08:46
crimsunairox: don't use modules.conf, it's deprecated08:46
rekageetergod: did you try that ubguide fix?08:46
GazaMksoze, you can, just not when recording from mic08:46
rekalxuser: http://serios.net/content/debian/java/with-java-package.php08:46
ksozewhat do I have to do?08:46
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ksozeI mean, is it configure every time I switch?08:46
geetergodreka, i cant seem to get it to work08:46
J0elhow do I set up a graphical bootscreen in ubuntu?08:46
ksozebecause that won't work08:46
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GazaMksoze, you only have to configure once08:47
rekageetergod: you followed the steps?08:47
J0ellike the one the live cd has08:47
GazaMgo to the ubuntuforums.org08:47
ksozeI did08:47
asew34can someone help me with the install of ubuntu?08:47
geetergodreka, i lost the link08:47
GazaMasew3408:47
GazaMI have that aswell08:47
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asew34were u able to fix it?08:47
GazaMI'll tell you how to fix it08:47
rekaasew34: how long have you waited? i've seen 3 cases where it starts up again after ~15mins08:47
seth_kJ0el, you want a bootsplash, or a graphical grub menu?08:48
rekageetergod: http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly08:48
rekaksoze: that might be helpful if you're desperate08:48
GazaMAt the setup user step, press back before you do it and go straight to install boot loader step08:48
J0elseth_k, a bootsplash .. if thats what its called.08:48
lxusermay i program with gambas or anjuta or QtDesign08:48
J0elnot a grub menu.08:48
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seth_kJ0el, check out Splashy08:48
GazaMafter reboot it will ask you to insert cd, it will say it's not a ubuntu cd, just select http08:48
GazaMthen you can setup user and all08:49
seth_kJ0el, http://wiki.nanofreesoft.org/index.php/Splashy08:49
J0elseth_k, its a package?08:49
asew34i tried that08:49
GazaMworked for me08:49
J0elseth_k, hrm k.08:49
ksozereka: I guess I'm confused.  If the sound is bad, why is it in the distrib?08:49
seth_kJ0el, there are sources there to add to your sources.list08:49
asew34but i need to configure PPPoe for my internet to use http?08:49
seth_kJ0el, then apt-get install splashy08:49
Amaranthhttp://www.realistanew.com/dsc_097.jpg <--iowa is fun!08:49
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J0elseth_k,  k ill try that. thx.08:50
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rekaksoze: i agree, sound needs work.  but those instructions should fix problems with multiple apps using sound, something you might be having trouble with.08:51
amonkeyat the console, how can i find out the current throughput of eth0?08:52
naliothreka are we compiling the world now?'08:52
lxuser may i program with gambas or anjuta or QtDesign?08:52
Amaranthyeah, you can use those08:52
Amaranthyou can just use gedit or vim too08:52
ksozereka: my main problem is simply that no recording app works08:52
ksozeaudacity hates esd08:52
rekanalioth: hehe no.  i'm marvelling at the number of people with sound problems08:52
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ksozebut killing esd every time I want to record seems no fun08:53
crimsunksoze: that's being addressed for breezy08:53
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rekathank god08:53
ksozeI sure hope so08:53
ksozeI mean, sound is what this box is for, first and foremost08:54
ksozebut breezy is about wht, 4 months away?08:54
JDahllxuser, for small programs, there's probably not much gained by using Anjute etc. - it takes time to understand and appreciate a complicated IDE08:54
naliothreka: ya send a distro out where the sound daemon is precocious, and this is what happens08:54
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Pithlitguys... how do I add a module to boot ?08:54
lxuserso whats your advice08:54
ksozehrm08:55
smallfoot-when is cd shipped?08:55
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ksozeI have no idea what to do here08:55
crimsunksoze: you could configure all your apps to use alsa directly, for instance08:55
ksozeI really don't want to nuke the install, but music is pretty important to me08:55
Burgundaviaksoze, breezy is going to be released in Oct, so yes08:55
HappyFoolPithlit: not sure what you mean, but you can add it to /etc/modules if you just want it to be loaded during boot08:55
JDahllxuser, use a simple editor, e.g., gedit, and compile programs directly with gcc08:55
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rekanalioth: i've lost count of the number of times i've directed people to ubguides soundfix and telling them to change the output plugin in xmms08:55
crimsunksoze: then configure gstreamer-properties to use alsa as the default audio sink08:55
PithlitHappyFool: you understood me08:55
Pithlitthanks08:55
ksozeugh08:55
crimsunksoze: it's really not a big step08:55
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ksozeI'm your target demographics, folks.  I have no idea how to do what you're talking about08:56
ksozeand when breezy arrives, will I need to undo it?08:56
crimsunksoze: no, you won't need to undo it when breezy is installed/upgraded onto your machine08:56
lxuserim talkin about real appliactions with db like programing with visual basic08:56
crimsunthere are how-tos on the forum and on ubuntuguide if you wish to read them08:56
naliothreka: me too, hopefully there is a more responsible daemon in breezy08:57
ksozewhat are they listed under?08:57
rekaksoze: you do realise that part of using linux is the fiddly stuff?  which can be either good or bad depending on the person.08:57
dulouzhi folks, question about uninstalling something. Rythmbox that comes with Ubuntu uses GStreamer. I want to use Xine, which means building from source. If i select Rhythmbox to uninstall it says it wants to uninstall ubuntu-desktop as well. ubuntu-desktop says it's safe to uninstall but recommends not to. so would it be better to uninstall Rhythmbox and ubuntu-desktop, or just build Rhythmbox from source and install to someplace like08:57
dulouz/usr/local/share?08:57
crimsunI'm happy to walk you through the process, but I need to grab lunch after talking with my manager08:57
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ksozereka: well, like I said, I was drawn by the "just works" mantra08:57
ksozeI guess I underestimated the fiddling angle08:57
rZris there a package to make appear disk volume on desktop ?08:57
ksozeI have a lot of stuff that I want to do, and I don't want the time cut into by fiddling08:57
ksozecrimsun: don't worry about it, but thanks08:58
naliothksoze: if you don't want to fiddle, use <ugh> linspire08:58
smallfoot-please when my ubnutu cd come in my home??08:58
smallfoot-i order it many many time long ago before!!08:59
rekaksoze: i understand.  what can i say? it's a sales pitch ... but compared to other distros, ubuntu's support is great.  i mean people are willing to help you out in here are they not? crimsun for one.08:59
ksozenalioth: even I know better than that08:59
ksozereka: no, I agree.  I guess I'm just a little crankier than I shoudl be.08:59
lxuserim talkin about real appliactions with db like programing with visual basic08:59
ksozeI had the wrong set of expectations08:59
slept is there a way to create the initrd image  for the precompiled kernels ?08:59
thenukeHelp! "Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libc/libcairo/libcairo1_0.3.0-1_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch.  E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?"08:59
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ksozeI suggest they change the sales pitch :)09:00
crimsunthenuke: known issue: don't use us. or ca.09:00
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crimsunthenuke: any other mirror should be fine09:00
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Mezhmm09:00
HappyFoollxuser: you can try gambas -- it's supposed to be visual-basic like, and it's in Hoary's universe repository09:00
JDahllxuser, I probably missed part of your question... are you asking how to develop DB applications under Linux?09:00
MezI really ought to like - resize windows or something09:00
Mezbut it's such a pain in the arse to do09:00
Mezit hates me doing it09:00
rekaksoze: or put one of those fine print things: "may require fiddling" :-] 09:00
thenukecrimsun: so to what I change those US?09:01
HappyFoollxuser: or you can try python, which is a similar level of language, and also has DB interfaces09:01
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MezI'm very tempted to delete it all together.09:01
ksozereka: then you're no better than the commercial weenies.  :)09:01
Mezbut i know I'd kick myself for it09:01
thenukecrimsun: I live in europe/Finland09:01
RzRis there a package to make appear disk volume on desktop ?09:01
J0elIs there any software i could use a remote control for xawtv?09:01
rekaksoze: take that back! :-)09:01
StargazerAnyone know what might be causing white shimmering pixels all over my videos when watching them..I'm using 5.04 PPC on a G3.. I switched colour depths from 24 to 16 with no luck..09:01
HappyFoolRzR: my impression is that usb sticks / cd-roms / etc already do that09:02
JDahllxuser, HappyFool, there's even a Delphi version for Linux, isn't there?09:02
StargazerAlso my mouse sometimes leaves behind pixel garbage when moving it.09:02
HappyFoolRzR: for hard drive partitions, you can just create shortcuts (or launchers, or whatever they're called), i imagine09:02
J0elor just one that would acept commands from my remote controller ? .09:02
HappyFoolJDahl: yeah, kylix i think09:02
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ksozereka: sorry09:02
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HappyFoolJDahl: that's more pascal though -- slightly lower level than vb / python, i would've thought09:02
ksozereka: so is there a jukebox app that fits the "just works" criterion?09:02
Ubuntianto create "/mnt/blabla" as an empty mount point, can I just "sudo mkdir /mnt/blabla ?09:03
crimsunthenuke: try archive in sweden09:03
onnoWould you install ubuntu or kubuntu or mandrake for some one who nows nothing of GNU/Linux?09:03
seth_kUbuntian: yep09:03
Ubuntianthanks09:03
HappyFoolksoze: sorry to come into the conversation late, but what's a jukebox app ? something different from rhythmbox / xmms, i take it?09:03
ksozecrimsun: I don't need a walk-through, but where is the article?09:03
Seveasonno, newbies should not use mandrake :)09:03
thenukecrimsun: ookey, thank you09:03
rekaksoze: beep-media-player09:03
JDahlHappyFool, he was asking for VB :-)09:04
ksozeHappyFool: something that will take a big colelction of FLAC-encoded songs and play them for me in whatever order09:04
onnowhy not mandrak?09:04
naliothSeveas: not only to stay away from the RPM hell, either09:04
Ubuntiantrue mandriva was my first distro and i still have nightmares about it09:04
penguinpartyanyone know how to search on the "notes" field in the thunderbird address book?09:04
seth_kksoze: beep-media-player, rhythmbox, amaroK if you're on kubuntu09:04
ksozeJDahl: no I wasn't.  That was someone else.  :)09:04
Seveasmandrake is much more difficult than ubuntu09:04
HappyFoolksoze: err, dunno what flac is, but rhythmbox plays my mp3 collection just fine. i would guess if there's a flac gstreamer library it should work09:04
Seveasrpm hell indeed09:04
sleptSeveas, there is no rea09:04
sleptsorry09:04
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ksozeHappyFool: lossless codec.  I am not an MP3 fan09:04
naliothonno: different linux distros use differnet packaging methods for their software09:05
Seveasflac is good, very good09:05
seth_kksoze: gstreamer0.8-flac is the lib you need09:05
ksozeseht_k/reka: looks like I'll try beep09:05
rekaksoze:actually, you'll need to fiddle with bmp as well: you might have to change the output plugin from the default "oss"09:05
reka:-)09:05
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ksozegood lord09:05
Grim76Quick question:  I am doing apt-get install for several packages, and I keep getting md5sum errors on some packages is everyone getting that or am I using the wrong mirrors?09:05
HappyFoolksoze: well, try gstreamer0.8-flac and rhythmbox09:05
seth_kgrim76: us and ca mirrors are wack09:05
naliothonno: mandrake uses the RPM system, which provides valuable linux lessons (the diffecult, curse filled lessons)09:05
seth_kgrim76: use archive.ubuntu.com for now09:05
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naliothGrim76: lots of md5 errors the last couple days09:06
HappyFoolksoze: use synaptic to install the flac library; rhythmbox is already installed with ubuntu09:06
naliothGrim76: i don't know why09:06
Seveasnalioth, very valuable lessons in how not to design a packaging system09:06
ksozeI need to approach this when I have a lot more patience.09:06
Ubuntianguys you know what?09:06
UbuntianNFS works!09:06
sleptSeveas,  got the wrong key wated to press  delete not enter after I read "not" which I missed the first time09:06
Mezwewt! ?09:06
Ubuntiano my godness i'm so happy09:06
onnobut would you give gnome or kde?09:06
naliothSeveas: mandrake and redhat taught me a lot about linux09:06
seth_kgrim76: us and ca mirrors were down for about 1h15m yesterday09:06
ksozehappyfool: where is rhythmbox?09:06
seth_kgrim76: don't know why09:06
Mezcalm down ubuntian - you dont wanna dirty your keyboard09:06
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seth_kksoze: might be preinstalled and called "Music Player"09:06
Ubuntianlol09:06
rekaksoze: it's already installed09:06
HappyFoolksoze: Applications -> Sound and video -> Music Player09:06
Seveasseth_k, / Grim76 us and ca still give errors09:07
ksozeahh...Music Player09:07
naliothSeveas: a lot of "use debian instead" lessons09:07
Grim76seth_k, ok thanks I appreciate it.  I will work my sources.list over.09:07
HappyFoolksoze: sorry, i guess i could've called it 'Music Player' ;)09:07
Seveasit's known and worked on09:07
ksozeI assumed that was just some basic thing09:07
Mezseth_k09:07
rekaksoze: another thing to worry about: double labelling for the same program09:07
Mezis that who i think it is?09:07
reka:-)09:07
lxusero yeah Kylix i mean09:07
seth_kseveas, what was the cause?09:07
lxuserbut its supported by Ubuntu09:07
lxuser???09:07
Seveasseth_k, ENOIDEA09:07
J0elHow can i set shortcut keys to specific operations like ctrl+x for 3ddesktop?09:07
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seth_kno touchee09:07
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seth_k:P09:07
J0elor any other operation.09:08
onnoWhat do you think is better for an older person who is new to GNU/Linux Gnome or KDE?09:08
ksozereka: heh09:08
ksozesame old linux :)09:08
Seveasonno, Gnome, definitely gnome09:08
ksozeI haven't had my own linux box since 199809:08
Seveasgnome is clear, easy and not easy to mess up09:08
onnook I install gnome then09:08
ksozethe more things change...09:08
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ksoze:)09:08
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SeveasKDE is over-configurable and very easy to create a mess with09:08
sniper_french here?09:08
naliothonno: KDE is more familiar if you are coming from windoze, and gnome is more after the macOS look09:08
Seveassniper_, #ubuntu-fr09:08
sniper_ok09:09
sniper_thx09:09
naliothsniper_: #ubuntu-fr09:09
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dulouzonno: i had been using KDE running on SuSE for the last year. Ubuntu + Gnome seems a lot less troublesome for a simple desktop09:09
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ksozeit looks like Sound Juicer can encode FLAC by default...09:09
ksozebut Music Player can't play FLAC?09:09
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seth_kksoze: did you install gstreamer0.8-flac ?09:09
rekanalioth: Seveas is fast isn't he?09:09
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ksozeseth_k: not consciously, no :)09:10
HappyFoollxuser: it doesn't look like kylix is in the ubuntu repositories; you may need to install it by other means09:10
ksozeI'll check adn see if it's there09:10
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SeveasHappyFool, iirc the licensing of kylix makes a .deb package impossible09:10
ksozeseth_k: yeah, it's installed.  It must have come along for th ride when I brought down Audacity and ardour to try out.09:11
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HappyFoolSeveas: their loss09:11
SeveasHappyFool, indeed09:11
RzRHappyFool: .. and what about adding entries to fstab ?09:11
RzRHappyFool: this requiere "advanced" unix skills :)09:12
Seveas*gasp* just cleaned out a 2-month backlog of bills :)09:12
HappyFoolRzR: sorry, a little more context? What do you want to do ?09:12
lxuseri had installed Kylix in SuSE and think there is nothing different from one distro to another, isnt it?09:12
Seveassome companies will now stop sending letters :)09:12
HappyFoollxuser: how did you install it in suse?09:12
naliothRzR: iirc, adding to sources.list takes a simple text editor09:12
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RzRHappyFool: i hoped a noob can access his windows drives through his desktop09:12
CarlFKlxuser - Kylix is sitll alive?!09:13
seth_kRzR: http://ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs09:13
onnook I'm installing ubuntu for this person!09:13
HappyFoolRzR: you can easily cause youe windows partitions to be mounted (ie., made available) on boot09:13
CarlFKlxuser - I checked it out a few years ago - looked pretty cool09:13
HappyFoolRzR: then you just need to create desktop launchers for the partitions09:13
HappyFoolRzR: note that NTFS is read-only from linux09:14
RzRwell i know how to do that09:14
ksozeok, so I'm FLAC encoding a CD now, and we'll see if rhythmbox works09:14
RzRbut a n00b will not handle to RTFM and lunch an editor09:14
ksozeif so, that's a big positive09:14
HappyFoolRzR: ok, what's the question? You want to know what the fstab line is?09:14
RzRno09:14
naliothonno: you are a good person09:14
RzRI know how to fix it09:14
ksozeif it plays, I'll be more willing to compromise on recording for a little while.09:15
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HappyFoolRzR: you're saying it should automagically happen for the benefit of those who can't edit fstab?09:15
RzRbut a newbee complains about that09:15
RzRHappyFool: exactly09:15
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razI want to uninstall mplayer, but the Add/Remove never loads. Is there a way to do it using the terminal?09:15
onnoOn this computer ther is one windows, fresh install... How do I repartition it so that 40 GB and 40 GB ubuntu is09:15
seth_kraz: sudo aptitude remove mplayer-38609:15
naliothraz: sudo apt-get remove mplayer09:16
Seveasremove --purge that is :)09:16
flodineok guys tried everything but ubuntu wont take my screen resolution now what09:16
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HappyFoolRzR: hrm. maybe. it's not entirely simple -- in some situations (for security/privacy) one might not want that to happen09:16
RzRquestion 2 reported : what to install to using totem to read divx (or any weird codec)09:16
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seth_kSeveas: if using aptitude, use simply aptitude purge and not aptitude remove --purge09:16
ksozeflodine: what everything did you try?09:16
RzRHappyFool: that's what i thought too , but u know what i mean09:16
Seveasseth_k, indeed :)09:16
flodineeverything google offered09:16
ksozeincluding editing xorg.conf?09:16
flodineedit shit all day09:17
flodinestill no dice09:17
onnoOn this computer ther is one windows, fresh install... How do I repartition it so that 40 GB and 40 GB ubuntu is09:17
ksozewell it's hard for me to know the deal, if you know what I mean09:17
lxuser./install_fg09:17
lxuserjejeje09:17
HappyFoolRzR: a utility to do that would be useful. i'm afraid i don't have enough desire to write it though ;)09:17
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RzRsame here :)09:17
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CarlFKlxuser - Kylix is sitll alive?!09:18
lxuserbut your rigth its a little old09:18
naliothonno: is the windows install NTFS?09:18
RzRfdisk -l | sed | awk > /etc/fstab :)09:18
lxuserits alive cause its still in the Borland Site09:18
flodineis there anyone in here on 1900x1200 that can help me get this befora i format ubuntu09:19
ksoze1900x1200?09:19
ksozewide screen?09:19
onnonalioth, yes09:19
flodineyes09:19
SeveasRzR, excellent idea!09:19
Seveasi'm gonna write one now09:19
onnowhat should I choise for repartition?09:19
razWant to uninstall Mplayer. Did not install it with Synaptics. Followed guide to 'make' it. Any easy way to remove it from the system?09:19
ksozewhat monitor and video card?09:19
onnoisn't ntfs a proble?09:20
naliothonno: then unless you want to reinstall windoze, you'll need partition magic to move partitions09:20
whimsyonno: the safest solution for you is to use partition magic09:20
seth_kraz, ohhhh, you built it from source09:20
CarlFKlxuser - how may other people do you know that are using it? (know personaly or even just know of)09:20
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naliothonno: if you know you are installing windoze into a dual boot machine, install windoze as fat32 filesystem09:20
flodineksoze nvidia geforce 6200 and a dell 2405fpw 24 inch09:20
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seth_kraz: if you still have your source dir available, you might try sudo make uninstall09:21
geetergodIs there someone in here that can help me with my sound?09:21
catgermanyhi09:21
naliothraz: you should check out "checkinstall" for future compiling projects09:21
ksozeflodine: and you've included all of the resolutions in the xorg.conf?09:21
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catgermanyanybody can help me?09:21
naliothraz: it makes debs so as to keep track of what all is installed09:21
ksozecatgermany: depends.  what's the issue?09:21
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catgermanytoday i bought a DVD Writer LG09:22
flodineyes09:22
StargazerOk.. Sound and video play in Totem for divx but the video is alwfully jumpy.. Now in VLC the video is smooth, but no sound will play.. what needs to be done?09:22
seth_kraz: to use checkinstall, simply replace "sudo make install" with "sudo checkinstall" after installing the checkinstall package09:22
catgermanyit's extern und with usb09:22
flodineksoze yes sir09:22
ksozehrm...09:22
geetergodanyone that can help me with my sound it'd be greatly appreciated09:22
catgermanyand wenn i want to copy with k3b09:23
flodineksoze it on goes to 1600x120009:23
seth_kgeetergod, what issue are you having?09:23
ksozebut did you add in 1900x1200?09:23
geetergodseth_k, my sound is gone09:23
catgermanyi have this error09:23
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flodineksoze even if i include 1900x120009:23
geetergodseth_k, its acting like theres something else open is why the sound wont work09:23
catgermanyinput/output error.Not necessarily serious09:23
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geetergodseth_k, ive tried just about everything there is to try09:23
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ksozeflodine: then maybe someone else here knows better.  I troubleshot my own video problem witht eh xorg.conf09:24
ivoksdoh!09:24
ivoksis here anyone from backports team?!09:24
Memedhi_sawahono seng iso boso jowo raaaaaaaaaa09:24
seth_kpoke Mez, he makes backports09:24
flodinedont trip ksoze headed back to suse 9.3 it works there09:24
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ivoksseth_k: thanks09:24
Memedhi_sawahkok gak ada nick cew yaaa09:24
Mezivoks, I make backports, but not part of the team09:25
catgermanymy dmesg is09:25
ivoksok09:25
ksozeNo tripping here09:25
ivokswhere can team be contacted?09:25
ksozeI am fairly new to ubuntu09:25
lxuserWell in Nicaragua just a little group09:25
catgermanyusb 4-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 409:25
catgermanyscsi1 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices09:25
catgermanyusb-storage: device found at 409:25
catgermanyusb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning09:25
catgermany  Vendor: HL-DT-ST  Model: DVDRAM GSA-5163D  Rev: A10209:25
catgermany  Type:   CD-ROM                             ANSI SCSI revision: 0009:25
catgermanysr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 40x/40x writer dvd-ram cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray09:25
catgermanyAttached scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 009:25
ksozejust trying to help out, since others here have helped me09:25
catgermanyAttached scsi generic sg0 at scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0,  type 509:25
catgermanyusb-storage: device scan complete09:25
StargazerHow does one get vlc to play mp3's?09:25
catgermanyanybody can help me?09:26
lxuserreally little maybe all are in the National University of Engeenerin09:26
Memedhi_sawahsomeone can help mee...09:26
JormundgandStargazer: gstreamer0.8-mad09:26
naliothStargazer: did you not see ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats   ?09:26
naliothStargazer: this question was answered earlier for you09:27
JDahllxuser, maybe Python, as happyfool suggested, would be worth checking out...09:29
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HappyFoolJDahl: is it good cop / bad cop night? ;-)09:29
BurgerMannHi. Does anyone know how to change the charset in MySQL?09:29
naliothHappyFool: good cop? is there such a thing?09:30
JDahlHappyFool, hehe... it sure looks like it :P09:30
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lxuserok i will try it09:30
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Seveascatgermany, do not paste in here09:30
lxuserdo you know LinEX09:30
lxuserits a Spanish Distro09:31
BurgerMannHmn, Does anyone know anyone who knows how to change charset in MySQL?09:31
HappyFoolBurgerMann: tried #mysql ?09:31
BurgerMannHappyFool, trying atm09:31
naliothBurgerMann: if anyone knows, they will answer. give it a few minutes tween the same question09:32
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crimsunksoze: I don't think there's an "article," but ubuntuguide has the steps09:32
seth_kburgermann: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/charset-conversion.html09:32
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razmy "add/remove progs" window doesn't show the apps.. keeps the mouse busy.. any ideas?09:33
naliothraz: use synaptic09:33
naliothraz: the "add/remove' is kinda limited09:33
seth_kburgermann: basically use ALTER TABLE `foo` MODIFY COLUMN `thiscolumn` CHARACTER SET `mynewset`09:33
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raznalioth, aighty.. but it aint normal, is it..?09:33
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BurgerMannOh09:34
sladenhi lxuser.  The next version of LinEx will be based on Ubuntu09:34
BurgerMannseth_k, thanx =D09:34
naliothraz: i've never had any luck with the add/remove thing09:34
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RzRSeveas: knoppix provide a such script09:34
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lxuserit will be super because Ubuntu install in auto but LinEX its imposible to start the gdm09:35
SeveasRzR, mine is almost finished alreasy, it is easier for me to create one than to loke it up09:35
Seveaslook*09:35
ksozecrimsun: ok09:35
ksozewell, on the positive, the jukebox stuff works beautifully09:35
concept10Why does synaptic and apt keep reminding me: Warning: The following packages cannot be authenticated!  whats up with people not sigining these packages?09:36
RzRSeveas: keep in touch if you release it :)09:36
ksozeso all I really need to troubleshoot is recording09:36
naliothconcept10: they're lazy?09:36
ksozeand then I can throw in a huge hard disk and start ripping.  :)09:36
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HappyFoolconcept10: are they ubuntu (main, restricted, uni- or multiverse) packages ?09:36
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concept10Ubuntu is nice, I might be staying with this distro - I need to install development packages though. I love the fast boot09:37
ksozeI now have three boxes09:37
ksozeone ubuntu, one fedora, onw windows.09:37
ksozeone, even09:38
concept10HappyFool, Im not sure yet.  Im trying to get a understanding of Ubuntu's repositories09:38
lxuserim agree with concept1009:38
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mic_Ubuntu is my first foray into linux and so far I am really liking it with one little issue09:38
naliothksoze: so you meant to say you had 2 boxes and one doorstop, yes?09:38
concept10Whats your issue?09:38
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ksozenalioth: hey, I need wireless on one,  Don't get me started :)09:38
lxuseri got in my PC suse, ubuntu and XP09:38
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ksozemic_: sound?09:39
mic_I have linksys wireless pci card and ubuntu loses the settings when I reboot09:39
concept10hmm...09:39
ksozeahh...wireless09:39
HappyFoolconcept10: the ubuntu packages *should* all be signed, afaik09:39
lxusermmm i have no experiences with wireless :(09:39
concept10It must be the last repo on the list (backports?)09:39
mic_rt2500 is the chipset,I followed the instructions from ubuntuguide.org but still lose the settings on reboot09:39
ksozenalioth: also, sound recording works on the Windows box :)09:39
slepthow can you ssh to the livecd ? ssh ubuntu@ip doesn't work (without password) :(09:40
naliothksoze: it works on my OSX boxen, too, and i'm not wading in #*R#ER)$ while using it09:40
crimsunksoze: start by describing what sound chipset you have09:40
naliothslept: don't thing sshd is running on the livecd09:40
ksozecrimsun: It's not that complex.  The issue is just that audacity doesn't like esd09:40
HappyFoolconcept10: possibly. i'm not sure09:40
ksozeif a package did, it'd be no biggie09:40
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concept10Everything just works with Ubuntu right out the box, very good for desktop use. Printer setup 3 secs.  Now I have to try getting this wireless working09:41
ksozeotherwise, I have to get audacity to use something else09:41
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ksozenalioth: granted - just have no Mac budget09:41
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sleptnalioth, oh should have thought about that09:41
concept10I just hope Ubuntu will be around for awhile09:41
ksozeI can play sounds just fine - just got done doing fun stuff with the Music Player09:41
mic_wireless on my laptop worked straight off it's the desktop card that's giving me trouble09:42
naliothksoze: they're $499 msrp (means they're cheaper if you can find them)09:42
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concept10Oh, question: Does anyone have the problem where Firefox reports the wrong version #?09:42
ksozenalitoh: a price without a monitor isn't a price.  :)09:42
ksozeand mind you, I'm no Mac hater09:42
geetergodCan someone help me with my sound, i think i can show you the problem09:42
ksozeI used to have a PowerBook for years09:42
naliothconcept10: fix it using about:config in the url box. change the vendorsub line to 1.0.409:43
geetergodand you'd understand it more than me09:43
ksozeI just aon't going out to buy a machie to replace a functioning machine for some sort of loyalty oath :)09:43
naliothksoze: that price is a bargain. you use your doorstop in front of an actual door once you buy a mac mini09:43
ksozeoh please09:44
ksozeI'm not doing it, so you can turn off the advocacy script.  :)09:44
ksozeI have nothing against macs.  Just don't have any reason to spend money ona  new system.09:44
geetergodCan i message someone and show them what it says when i type esd in root?09:44
ksozeif I could switch to OSX on an existing box, I would09:44
naliothmore business09:44
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ksozeApple doesn't let me do that, so there ya go09:45
crimsunksoze: what is your default_options line in /etc/esound/esd.conf?09:45
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geetergodcan anyone explain something to me?09:46
kengurdepends09:46
concept10nalioth_wrkn, are they going to release a official package for that or just wait to the next firefox release?09:46
HappyFoolgeetergod: try asking specific questions in channel09:46
ksozecrimsun: empty09:47
ksozedefault_options=09:47
ksozethat's it09:47
geetergodHappyfool, when i type esd in root i get a message but might be a little big for here09:47
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schumaholaaa buenas09:47
geetergodand my sounds not working and it might be saying why09:47
schumahi.!.09:47
crimsunksoze: the parameters for spawn_options should be copied to default_options09:47
HappyFoolgeetergod: put it up on a pastebin, e.g., http://rafb.net/paste/09:47
geetergodk09:47
HappyFoolgeetergod: then paste the url here09:47
crimsunksoze: then try restarting esd09:48
schumai speakin spanish09:48
ksozecrimsun: is this for audacity to work?09:48
HappyFoolgeetergod: i'm not a sound guru (mine Just Works (TM) ) but i'll take a look09:48
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crimsunksoze: it's an attempt to see if esd will in fact release /dev/dsp, which would allow audacity to use it09:48
nobileschuma, hola09:48
geetergodhttp://pastebin.com/29902909:48
ksozegotcha09:48
geetergodthere ya be09:48
schumahola nobile..09:48
vicksit seems like i don't have a cups server running. what is the exact way to check if it's running?09:48
schumanobile: tngo problema al instalar el desklest09:49
HappyFoolgeetergod: ok, looks like esd is already running09:49
nobilesi necesitas ayuda en espanol, busca #ubuntu-es09:49
nobile=)09:49
geetergodHappyfool, i dont know where esd is running though09:49
HappyFoolgeetergod: try 'pgrep esd' and see if you get a respone09:49
sleptGot a big  problem : kernel-panic : not syncing : VFS : unable to mount rootfs . It's the second kernel I tried both are precompiled - any ideas ?09:49
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nobile=P09:49
ksozecrimsun: best esd restart method?09:49
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geetergodhappyfool, no response, should i type it in root?09:49
HappyFoolgeetergod: you should see a number, probably in the thousands (i get 6956)09:49
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HappyFoolgeetergod: no, you don't have to be root, i don't think09:50
HappyFoolgeetergod: hm09:50
geetergodk09:50
geetergodhappyfool, i get no response then09:50
HappyFoolthat means that esd probably *isn't* running09:50
crimsunksoze: easiest is probably ,,pkill esd'' then restarting it manually (from Terminal)09:50
konradHi, I need wuick answer - what is default linux-headers after Ubuntu installation?09:50
ksozebut when I restart it form terminal, it never exits...09:50
crimsunkonrad: linux-headers-$(uname -r)09:50
konrador another - apt-get comman will be nice :)09:50
crimsunksoze: esd &09:50
ksozeok09:50
ksozeok, restarted09:51
konradcrimsun: thanks09:51
ksozenow let's see what audacity thinks09:51
HappyFoolgeetergod: i'm not sure how to clean this up, but i would guess erasing that socket ought to do it09:51
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StargazerIs there a graphic gui for mplayer under Ubuntu to download from one of the repositories?09:51
HappyFoolgeetergod: try 'rm /tmp/.esd/socket'09:51
geetergodhappyfool, thats what i was thinking09:51
ksozeoooh.09:51
ksozeno complaints yet09:52
geetergodrm: cannot remove `/tmp/.esd/socket': No such file or directory09:52
ksozecrimsun: ok, that was pretty cool  :)09:52
geetergodshould i do it in root?09:52
ksozenow let's see if this works.09:52
HappyFoolgeetergod: try it as normal user first09:52
geetergodi did09:52
geetergodstill cant :(09:52
HappyFoolok, try with sudo09:52
HappyFooldo you have multiple users ?09:53
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geetergodi did09:53
HappyFooland.. ?09:53
geetergodHappyfool, i dont believe so, im the only user on this computer09:53
geetergodhappyfool, wont work with sudo either09:53
HappyFoolgeetergod: what's the error message ?09:53
ivoksbye09:53
nickrudhey, ivoks, before you go, thanks for the glimpse of e1709:54
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geetergodHappyfool, in root it does nothing at all09:54
HappyFool?09:54
geetergodmaybe it actually erased it09:54
razInstalled mplayer throu synaptics. Is there any way I could *not* use the skin-based version? Just normal GUI ?09:54
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RickieHey09:54
HappyFoolno message should mean it worked09:54
RickieHow can i make my scroll wheel scroll faster in Ubuntu?09:54
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geetergodroot@cpe-66-24-86-121:/home/geetergod # rm /tmp/.esd/socket09:54
geetergodrm: cannot remove `/tmp/.esd/socket': No such file or directory09:54
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HappyFooloh09:54
geetergodHappyfool, thats what it says when i do it in root09:55
HappyFoolwell, then it's removed ;)09:55
HappyFooltry starting esd (but not as root -- just as a normal user)09:55
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geetergodhappyfool, you make me happy... fool :)09:55
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HappyFool;)09:55
airoxHi :)09:55
geetergodhttp://pastebin.com/29903509:56
geetergodHappyfool, thats what i get09:56
Strifeanyone know if there's some configuration file for alsa where I can set the default volume for everything on startup?09:56
RickieHow can i make my scroll wheel scroll faster in Ubuntu? < Anyone?09:56
crimsungeetergod: when you reboot, /tmp should be cleared09:56
Strife(I have a laptop, so basically I want it to be muted by default)09:56
ksozehrm...doesn't seem to hear now09:57
Rickiesorry for repeating, but it can't be that hard :p09:57
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ksozeI'll have to mess with it more later09:57
geetergodcrimsun, ive rebooted a lot, never seems to work still09:57
avild001hi09:57
crimsunStrife: mute it before shutting down, and the settings are saved on shutdown and restored on (re)boot09:57
concept10Rickie, move you finger faster09:57
Rickielol09:57
Rickieseriously..09:57
kengurStrife, why don't u save your gnome session?09:57
Strifecrimsun: that's what I had thought, but that did not occur09:57
avild001hi rickie09:57
concept10Rickie, seriously there is a setting somewhere09:58
ksozecrimsun: thanks again.  looks like I'm getting closer.09:58
Strifekengur: that does nothing for the sounds that occur before gnome is loaded :p09:58
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avild001I'm from Chile09:58
avild001South America09:58
Rickieconcept10: Well i kinda guessed, but telling me where would help ;)09:58
ksozenow I just need audacity to hear09:58
Strifealthought, now that I think about it...09:58
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kengurStrife, what? your HDD making creepy sounds? =)09:58
=== concept10 trying to find it
Strifeit's possible that it was only the headphone volume that wasn't muted... strangely enough, master volume isn't controlling my headphone volume09:58
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StrifeI have no idea why that is, though...09:59
Strifethat seems even stranger09:59
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RickieThanks man09:59
geetergodHappyfool, any idears?09:59
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crimsunStrife: sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base09:59
crimsunStrife: make sure it's configured to save settings on shutdown09:59
HappyFoolgeetergod: sorry, no. a bit over my head.09:59
kaliasHi can some someone answer a program install question?  When I tried to install a program it couldn't find everything in the repository.  How do I get around this?10:00
ksozegot it10:00
geetergodhappyfool, if theres a way to just reboot linux so everything goes back to default i would, even if i lose everything10:00
Strifecrimsun: thanks10:00
crimsungeetergod: lsattr /tmp/.esd/socket10:00
ksozeinput volume was hosed10:00
ksozeOK< now I'm cooking10:00
ksozecri8msun: many thanks10:00
crimsunnp10:00
Strifethat still leads to the next question, why doesn't my master volume control the headphone volume?10:00
geetergodcrimsun, lsattr: No such file or directory while trying to stat /tmp/.esd/socket10:00
ksozeone line edit is not too much tweaking to ask10:00
ksoze:)10:00
crimsunStrife: there's a logical separation between the master and its slave controls10:00
crimsungeetergod: ls -a /tmp/.esd10:01
nickrudhey, kalias10:01
geetergodls: /tmp/.esd: No such file or directory10:01
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kaliasnickrud: hey man :)  How is life?10:01
crimsungeetergod: are you using an /etc/asound.conf or ~/.asoundrc ?10:01
nickrudgood overall, but I'm tied to the desk again thisafternoon10:01
Strifecrimsun: ... a logical separation between "master volume" and every other volume???10:01
Strifethat's not logical at all10:01
StrifeI expect master volume to make EVERYTHING go up or down10:01
Strifehence the term master10:01
geetergodcrimsun im not sure, i though ~/.asoundrc but maybe not10:02
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geetergodthought*10:02
nickrudkalias if you're getting a package from the repository, there should be any unfulfilled dependencies10:02
concept10Rickie, sorry I forgot where that is. I checked gconf also10:02
nickrudwhat are you installing?10:02
nickrud*shouldn't10:02
RickieNo problem man10:02
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ksozeok, now I'll stick around a while and see if I can be of use to someone else at some point  :)10:02
kaliasnickrud:  I get the following: W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/i/imlib+png2/gdk-imlib1_1.9.14-16.2ubuntu2_i386.deb10:03
kalias  MD5Sum mismatch10:03
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crimsunStrife: no, master is separate, as in a master safety. You wouldn't expect a master control to toggle everything, would you? For instance, many chipsets simply do not have capability in hardware to have both analog and spdif output simultaneously. Would it even make sense then to allow a Master setting to control both? I think not.10:03
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nickrudkalias it was in the topic yesterday that us was down, it must still be. try a different mirror in your sources.list10:03
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crimsunkalias: use another mirror, like se.10:03
kaliasnickrud: how do I redirect?10:04
Strifecrimsun: ok, well at the very least, I want master volume to control my volume output regardless of what I am using :P10:04
Strifeeveyrthing else I have ever used has just worked10:04
seth_kkalias: us and ca are messed, use http://archive.ubuntu.com or another mirror10:04
seth_kkalias: edit /etc/apt/sources.list10:04
StrifeI don't know why alsa on ubuntu doesn't do that properly10:04
seth_kremove the us.10:04
HowitzerIs there a way that i can make a little server(on this pc)and that i can choose what folders can be acessed en when the server is up?10:04
nickrudin /etc/sources.list, replace us with another country, or just remove it (us.)10:04
crimsunStrife: then you want to script it to use amixer to set both headphone and master10:04
SeveasHowitzer, sure10:04
geetergodcrimsun, should i try anything else?10:04
kaliasokay, I will give it a go.10:04
mp_erhm, how to install a .deb from cmd line (like rpm -Ivh package.rpm) w/ apt ??10:04
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Seveasmp_, dpkg -i filename.deb10:04
Turoqi have ubuntu 5.04 and framebuffer is my problem, how can i disable framebuffer from starting when my kernel boots up?10:05
mp_hehe ;(10:05
crimsungeetergod: did you check for the existence of either/both?10:05
HowitzerSeveas, what program would i need then?(very lightweight and low on resources)10:05
mp_ups ;)10:05
mp_Seveas: i am happy ;)10:05
SeveasHowitzer, depends on the protocol you need10:05
mp_thx10:05
Howitzerehh10:05
geetergodcrimsun, im looking but i dont know where exactly to look10:05
Seveasftp/http/windows filesharing...10:05
Howitzerhmm10:05
Howitzertp10:05
HowitzerFtp10:05
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xolotl_Can anyone give me some input on why my sound card might not work?  Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev. 04)10:05
Howitzerbut also http :x10:05
SeveasHowitzer, vsftpd and apache2 then10:06
Howitzerbut more ftp based10:06
CKonT900ms0000:02:0c.0 0280: 14e4:4320 (rev 02)10:06
CKonT900g CarlFK10:06
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kaliaswhich of the http addresses do I replace?  All of them?10:07
nickrudkalias yes10:08
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geetergodcrimsun, i dont know which one im using10:08
xolotl_Does anyone have any experience with Audigy cards?10:09
seth_kxolotl_ I have an Audigy 2 ZS10:09
HowitzerFile: vsftpd-2.0.3pre1.tar.gz  149 KB  05/03/05  17:04:0010:09
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HowitzerFile: vsftpd-2.0.3pre2.tar.gz.asc 1 KB 12/03/05 23:03:0010:09
Howitzerwhich do i need? :/10:09
crimsungeetergod: which exists10:09
SeveasHowitzer, use apt-get...10:09
crimsunHowitzer: just get the version in main10:10
Howitzeroh10:10
Seveasand please do not paste in here10:10
crimsunsudo aptitude install vsftpd10:10
crimsunxolotl_: sure, what's up?10:10
Howitzeri always forget apt >_10:10
DaveyHow is it that the Google search box in FF support ctrl+shift+arrow keys, but the location box will not?! :/10:10
seth_kHowitzer: apt is your friend, use it :)10:10
Howitzeri know :D10:10
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geetergodcrimsun, i dont know , says i have no audio output available10:11
pepsiwooo.. ive got breezy working... 59 packages that i cant upgrade..10:11
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pepsii avoided anything that would install x-common, cause i think thats when x starts complainging about fonts10:11
seth_kpepsi: it's not hard to fix the font issues10:11
Howitzerwth10:11
crimsungeetergod: no, it's as simple as ls /etc/asound.conf ~/.asoundrc10:11
seth_kpepsi: I'm running a fully upgraded Breezy10:12
Howitzeri can't find the Resolution tab in FluxBox :/10:12
pepsiseth_k, how is that possible? some packages are completely broken10:12
seth_kpepsi: true, I do have some that are simply uninstalled10:13
geetergod/etc/asound.conf does nothin and ~/.asoundrc says no such file or directory10:13
seth_kpepsi: but none held back10:13
xolotl_crimsun: I was just in winblows about 1 hour ago - decided to try Ubuntu on a Dell Dimension 8300.  so, I start up, most things seem OK, but I get /no/ sound what so ever - not even if I do a # cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp (etc.)10:13
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Howitzeri don't get any sound either10:13
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geetergodcrimsun... wait a sec..10:13
crimsungeetergod: did you list them?10:13
geetergodcrimsun. geetergod@cpe-66-24-86-121:~$ ls ~/.asoundrc10:13
geetergod/home/geetergod/.asoundrc10:13
crimsunhah!10:13
crimsuntoldya10:14
xolotl_crimsun: yes, everything works properly under winblows.10:14
geetergodcrimsun, yes you're good, i suck, you're king, im a dweeb :)10:14
xolotl_howitzer: what kind of sound card are you using?10:14
crimsunxolotl_: that's expected. Paste the output of amixer onto pastebin.com10:14
Howitzeronboard one10:14
naliothgeetergod: please10:14
crimsunyou just need to unmute one mixer element.10:14
HowitzerVia **9710:14
geetergodnalioth haha10:14
Howitzeroh wait10:14
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Howitzermy dad said i have to use alsamixer10:14
xolotl_crimsun: ? pastebin.com?10:15
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geetergodcrimsun, and that mixer element is what?10:15
pepsiseth_k, what about mozilla-firefox?10:15
crimsungeetergod: that was directed to xolotl_10:15
geetergodcrimsun, ok sorry10:15
Kano_Ubuntuhi, did someone else have systemlocks with 2.6.11-k7 kernel?10:15
crimsungeetergod: please paste the contents of ~/.asoundrc onto pastebin10:15
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crimsunxolotl_: http://pastebin.com10:15
Howitzerhow do i use the search function in apt?10:15
seth_kxolotl_ please see http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=32920810:15
Kano_Ubuntuwith installed nvidia 7664 it locks up when gnome is starting10:15
Howitzerapt-cache?10:15
Howitzerapt-cache?10:15
seth_kxolotl_ I helped someone with your card last week and they were running Ubuntu too10:15
Howitzeroh10:15
Howitzersrry :x10:16
ksozeok...now firefox doesn't work10:16
seth_kpepsi: the package is now called firefox in Breezy10:16
ksozeconnection?  doubt it10:16
xolotl_seth_k: thanks10:16
geetergodcrimsun, i type ~/.asoundrc into terminal and get /home/geetergod/.asoundrc10:16
ksozebut time to reboot to be sure10:16
naliothHowitzer: apt-cache search (and run apt-cache --help for more)10:16
seth_kpepsi: not mozilla-firefox. firefox provides -> mozilla-firefox10:16
xolotl_crimsun: will try seth_k's suggestion first - if not...  brb10:16
Kano_Ubuntui know that 2.6.11 can run fine....10:16
Howitzeri''m in the apt-cache man nd its damn confusing :x10:16
crimsunxolotl_: that's the precise resolution10:16
pepsiseth_k, but firefox wants to remove mozilla-firefox, which barfs when trying to be removed10:16
Kano_Ubuntuhave it running usually10:17
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seth_kpepsi: really? maybe try uninstalling mozilla-firefox first?10:17
pepsiok10:17
crimsungeetergod: no, cat ~/.asoundrc (but don't paste here; use pastebin.com instead)10:17
Kano_Ubuntusomeone should enable /proc/config.gz kernel option10:17
naliothHowitzer: easier using the --help10:17
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geetergodk10:17
Cirus_hxchola!10:17
Kano_Ubuntuand disable IO_APIC10:18
geetergodcrimsun, http://pastebin.com/29905010:18
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crimsunKano_Ubuntu: why? Don't you have a /boot/config-$(uname -r)?10:18
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kaliasnickrud:  I updated the sources list and tried to rerun synaptic.  I get the following:  E: I wasn't able to locate file for the gdk-imlib1 package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package.10:18
kaliasE: Unable to lock the download directory10:18
Kano_Ubuntucrimsun, yes, but that other way is better10:18
Kano_Ubuntujust a tiny option10:19
Howitzerif they made windows more like linux, i would've bothered asking a cd rom the neighbour and reformat, but hey!10:19
crimsunKano_Ubuntu: because it's in ram instead of on secondary storage?10:19
jseattlenalioth i am trying to reach you here10:19
Kano_Ubuntucrimsun, because it is quite common that way.10:20
jseattlenalioth...call 713-501-....10:20
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crimsungeetergod: wow, your ~/.asoundrc is useless10:20
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Howitzeri've done apt-get update10:20
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geetergodcrimsun, hm the sound was working last night10:20
ksozecrimsun: bad news10:20
crimsungeetergod: you could get by without having ~/.asoundrc at all, since the contents of that file are precisely default10:20
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crimsunKano_Ubuntu: file a bug against linux then.10:20
geetergodcrimsun, all i want is my sound back, thats all, whatever it takes10:20
ksozecrimsun: after making that sound change and using the sound apps for a while, Firefox stopped working (wouldn't run), and now the box won't reboot (I'm typing from another machine10:21
crimsunKano_Ubuntu: bugzilla.u.c10:21
ksozejust hag son Sending processes the TERM signal10:21
ksozeso I'm gonna hard reboot the thing10:21
xolotl_crimson seth_k: that wasn't the same card.  I don't have the same options in alsamixer.10:21
nickrudkalias, wait one, please10:21
crimsunksoze: ok10:21
Kano_Ubuntucrimsun, i wont use ubuntu for long time, i just adopted my nvidia script for it10:21
crimsunxolotl_: then paste your amixer output onto pastebin.com10:21
ksozethree finger solute appears to have done the trick10:22
kaliasnickru: no worries.10:22
Kano_Ubuntubecause i wanted to add xorg support10:22
crimsunKano_Ubuntu: that's fine, I know you have your own distro10:22
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kaliasnickrud: no worries :)10:22
naliothmy fan club reaches from all directions10:22
Kano_Ubuntucrimsun, just wanted to tell you some things to improve, i dont file bug reports for u.10:22
crimsunKano_Ubuntu: but if you want to actually contribute and hopefully make a change, then file a bug.10:22
ramphis02Hello, I want to know about How long it takes that Ubuntu Company can send me my CDs of Ubuntu.10:22
geetergodcrimsun, is there a way i can just get my sound back?10:22
seth_kxolotl_ okay ^_^ crimsun's turn10:22
ksozenow sitting at stopping cupsd10:22
naliothjseattle: are you here?10:22
crimsunKano_Ubuntu: don't whine uselessly. Be proactive.10:23
nickrudkalias, I just rebooted into breezy (I do that now and then when someone say's it's still working) and have to look around10:23
Kano_Ubuntucrimsun, if i wanted to use it, i would instlal my own kernel10:23
ksozeman...this thing is indeed shuttign down, but godawful slowly10:23
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nickrudkalias, gdk-imlib1 isn't in hoary, according to packages.ubuntu.com, so, what extra repositories to you have :)10:23
Kano_Ubuntuso will wipe it out now10:24
Kano_Ubuntubye10:24
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kaliasnickrud:  ooh, good question. I think I have universe.10:24
nickrudkalias, no, thats a good section, how about pasting your sources into pastebin.com10:24
xolotl_crimsun: http://pastebin.com/29905610:25
kaliasnickrud: Where would I find the sources?10:25
dogfoodbrainLe franais est-il parl dedans ici ?10:25
ksozeI strongly adocate the end of the "it just works" manta.  :)  It sets people up with unrealistic expectations.  :)10:25
kaliasnickrud: you mean from sources.list?10:25
seth_kdogfoodbrain: il faut utiliser #ubuntu-fr10:25
nickrudkalias, yeah :)10:26
geetergodcrimsun, anyway i can just get my sound back?10:26
crimsungeetergod: will you be patient please? Thanks.10:26
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kaliasnickrud: sure I can do that.  I just go to pastbin.com and put them there?10:26
geetergodcrimsun, sorry10:26
seth_kdogfoodbrain: peut-tre il y en a quelques-uns, mais #ubuntu-fr, c'est meilleur10:26
nickrudkalias, yeah, then paste the link here10:26
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crimsunxolotl_: quite a few of your mixer elements are unmuted, which presents a problem10:27
ksozeugh...I may have to unplug this thing10:27
ksozeit is non-responsive to the power button10:27
crimsunxolotl_: it will take me a couple minutes to compile a list of changes you need to make; hang on.10:27
seth_kksoze: hold power btn for 5 seconds10:27
naliothksoze: really really unresponsive?10:27
xolotl_crimsun: most of them were muted to start - still no sound10:27
ksozeseth_k: that worked10:27
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seth_khammer!10:27
Howitzerwhat does the command 'sh' do?10:27
ramphis02Hello, I want to know about How long it takes that Ubuntu Company can send me my CDs of Ubuntu.10:27
seth_kHowitzer: sh runs a shell script10:27
Howitzeroh10:28
naliothHowitzer: starts a sh shell10:28
kaliasnickrud: okay done.  Look for kalias.10:28
ramphis02Who knows ?10:28
crimsungeetergod: the first thing I recommend you do is move ~/.asoundrc out of the way10:28
ksoze"it mostly works"  that's actually still cool10:28
seth_klol10:28
crimsunramphis02: hoary? anywhere from a few weeks to a few months.10:28
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naliothramphis02: they'll be there when they get there, if you're in a hurry, find a university or linux users group and get some burnt copies10:28
dogfoodbrainseth_k, merci. I nettoient mes oreilles avec mes pieds.10:28
geetergodcrimsun, remove it or move?10:28
kaliasnickrud:  Crumbs I am learning alot from you guys :)))10:28
crimsungeetergod: move10:28
nickrudkalias, after you clicked send, your location bar will have pastbin.com/<some numbers> that's the link I need10:28
seth_kdogfoodbrain, bonne chance ^_^10:28
ksozewell, it restarted just fine10:29
ramphis02Nalioth and crimsu, Thank u10:29
ksozeso I'm guessing it'll be ok until I try any more esd acrobatics10:29
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Howitzeri'm going to try ET i think10:29
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geetergodcrimsun, whats the move command?10:29
Doonzhey guy is there a friendly way to add hdds10:29
seth_kgeetergod: mv10:29
seth_kDoonz: you want to mount another partition?10:29
Doonzwell10:30
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Doonzbasically i have 4 hdds all on a controller card10:30
kaliasnickrud: 29905810:30
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Doonzi lost my hdd and mobo over the weekend10:30
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Doonzso i had to reinstall10:30
benjamin123anyone here know how to get spell checking working in  openoffice?10:30
nickrudkalias, http://pastebin.com/299058 ?10:30
benjamin123is there a package to install?10:30
geetergodcrimsun, where to?10:30
naliothgeetergod: used improperly, mv can also be 'delete"10:30
Doonzbut now i have no idea howto get those hdd into this install10:30
kaliasnickrud: yes10:30
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HowitzerDoonz, don't you have to edit a file and add hda/hdb an all? :x10:30
seth_kbenjamin123, what language?10:31
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geetergodnalioth so mv ~/.asoundrc to where?10:31
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Curtis_Hey everyone.10:31
ChoubakaHm.10:31
ksozedoes KDE have the same connection to esd that GNOME does?10:31
dogfoodbrainseth_k, J'apprcie le got de mon cire d'oreille. Je la mange avec mes orteils. :)10:31
ksozemaybe I could switch to KDE and get rid of esd?10:31
Curtis_I just ordered some CD's for my Linux convention that is going on.10:31
ChoubakaI wish I had the patience to wait for Breezy to be released before buying a laptop.10:31
seth_kDoonz, see: http://ubuntuguide.org/#windows to mount more partitions10:32
Doonzok10:32
crimsungeetergod: anything other than ~/.asoundrc10:32
crimsungeetergod: for instance, ~/.asoundrc.bak10:32
seth_kksoze: KDE uses Alsa + Artsd10:32
seth_kiirc10:32
geetergodok10:32
naliothgeetergod: to your desktop perhaps? just givin ya notice, that "mv" is very close to "delete" if not used properly.10:32
Doonzbut there not ntfs or fat there ext10:32
Curtis_What kernel does Ubuntu use , 2.4.x or 2.6.x ?10:32
crimsun2.610:32
Seveas610:32
Curtis_Great :)10:32
ramphis022.6.x10:33
seth_kDoonz: ext2 or ext3, just replace with the appropriate type10:33
Doonzumm10:33
ramphis02I guess 2.6.1110:33
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Curtis_I hoping to hand out 99% of the CD's i have ordered , Anyone here Ubunto staff ?10:33
Doonzwhat would have ubuntu made it last time?10:33
nickrudkalias, hmm, they're not the best, but I there're no odd ones.10:33
geetergodcrimsun i did geetergod@cpe-66-24-86-121:~$ mv ~/.asoundrc ~/.asoundrc.bak10:33
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run|helphi guys10:33
geetergodcrimsun, and it showed nothing, does that mean it worked?10:33
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run|helpgrub has hosed me10:33
crimsungeetergod: good. Now use aplay to test.10:34
ksozesth_k: then maybe that's the answer10:34
run|helpwhen i run grub and type setup (hd0)10:34
run|helpi get10:34
kaliasnickrud: okay so where to from here ace?10:34
ksozeseth_k, even10:34
HowitzerCan POP work with mail-folders?10:34
run|help Running "install /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0) (hd0)1+16 p (hd0,5)/boot/grub/stage210:34
run|help/boot/grub/menu.lst"... failed10:34
naliothgeetergod: yes10:34
geetergodcrimsun, 8-1118516774-649269: Permission denied10:34
geetergodALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:898:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to connect client10:34
geetergodaplay: main:508: audio open error: Permission denied10:34
geetergodsorry for big post10:34
nickrudkalias, are you typed the lib name correctly?10:34
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seth_kdogfoodbrain: je ne comprends pas cette idiome :P je suis amricain et j'tudie le franais10:34
crimsungeetergod: do you have an /etc/asound.conf ?10:34
ChoubakaAny idea when the breezy GCC4 transition will be complete? ie. When will it be relatively safe to upgrade to Breezy?10:34
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naliothseth_k: is there nobody in -fr?10:35
run|helpgrub-install is giving me: The file /mnt/lnx/boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.10:35
seth_kChoubaka: it's over, for the most part10:35
seth_knalioth: dunno10:35
kaliasnickrud:  I copied the old one and inserted the new http address.10:35
Choubakaseth_k: oh. cool.10:35
seth_kksoze: I hear Breezy is toying with dumping ESD10:35
naliothChoubaka: relatively save when it says "release candidate"10:35
Choubakaseth_k: so how's breezy now?10:35
dogfoodbrainWhy is it when I use XFCE the Start menu formats correctly but when I use Gnome or KDE in Ubuntu, there appears a "Debian" submenu with numerous submenus of programs (many of which do not show as they should in KDE/Gnome Start menu and subfolders of)10:35
nickrudkalias, ack, I read your initial message wrong, as usual, a sec10:35
seth_kah, l'anglais :P10:35
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geetergodcrimsun, i'll pastebin it for u10:35
Choubakanalioth: I don't mind having to fix borkness.10:35
dogfoodbrainseth_k :D10:35
kaliasnickrud:  you can see the old addresses from the initial installation.  I left them there for reference.10:35
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seth_kdogfoodbrain: are you using repositories that are not Ubuntu's?10:36
naliothChoubaka: then use it and post lots of bug reports10:36
nickrudkalias, no, it was something else10:36
Mezhmm10:36
dogfoodbrainseth_k I am using ubuntu respoitories10:36
geetergodcrimsun, http://pastebin.com/29907110:36
Choubakanalioth: Perhaps.10:36
Mezanyone interested in an acroread backport for hoary (perfectly working with default hoary (+universe)10:36
kaliasnickrud: oh, do I need to change it back?10:36
naliothChoubaka: cuz borkness is afoot in packs and waves10:36
dogfoodbrainseth_k I read about this issue on the ubuntuforums10:36
ksozesth_k: sounds like it'd bea  real good idea10:36
ksozeseems esd is ass  :)10:36
ChoubakaHow's the laptop mission advancing btw?10:36
Howitzerare there any big changes in 5.10? and is it worth to dl it?10:36
nickrudkalias, no, the problem was mine, not yours, I read the E: message wrong, a sec10:37
naliothMez: why that over xpdf?10:37
dogfoodbrainseth_k and I experience it too but I notice there's no debian subfolder in the start menu when using XFCE4 and the start menu is formatted correctly.10:37
benjamin123seth_k: english10:37
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anacronis there a way to make gnome windows snap to each other, like in kubuntu?10:37
mjranacron, drag with shift pressed10:37
anacron(more like in kde)10:38
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naliothamd to produce 4x CPUs. WOWZERS!10:38
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anacronmjr: damn it was that easy :D10:38
anacronthanks though10:38
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seth_kbenjamin123, dogfoodbrain asked for help in French, so I was using French. English now though10:38
Meznalioth - cause it works proerplky with like - mozilla and stuff :D10:38
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RugmonsterAfternoon all10:38
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benjamin123so you know how to get spell check to work in openoffice2? seth_k?10:39
xolotl_geetergod - what card do you have?10:39
naliothMez: ah, my browsers open up with the f/oss pdf thing10:39
crimsungeetergod: mv /etc/asound.conf /etc/asound.conf.bak10:39
anacronmjr: do you know if there's a way also resize so that windows "snaps"?10:39
geetergodxolotl_, Chaintech 7.1pci10:39
Mezah fair enough nalitoh - just some people ewill be happier with acroread10:39
geetergodcrimsun, ok10:39
seth_kbenjamin123, one sec, I'll chase it up for you (I thought you were telling me to speak English; had forgotten I asked you a question :P )10:39
RugmonsterI've got a new x86-64 install going and I'm trying to install automake, but I'm getting an MD5sum error. Any suggestions? I've tried apt-get update, but I'm still getting it.10:39
benjamin123ok, thanks10:40
crimsungeetergod: then test with: aplay -Dplughw:0,0 /usr/share/sounds/login.wav10:40
seth_kdogfoodbrain: XFCE uses its own menu system and I'm not familiar with it, sorry :(10:40
geetergodcrimsun, it wont let me move it, permission denied10:40
mic__hello shewolf how goes it?10:40
nickrudkalias, try in a terminal, apt-get -f install , if it's a simple problem, that should fix it10:40
crimsungeetergod: you need to use sudo10:40
SheWolfscary10:40
dogfoodbrainseth_k, Je me demandais si je pourrais marier Ubuntu. J'ai plaisir  employer Ubuntu beaucoup, il peut sembler trange pour vouloir marier une distribution de Linux, mais il n'y a aucun autre que mon coeur dsire. Ubuntu est mon amour.10:40
mp_have an USB wireless working (dwl-g122 w/ndis), but it keeps losing connection - ideas?10:40
ksozeso...supposing I am actually going to dig through this beast...can esd be replaced while staying with GNOME?10:40
mic__lol sit back and watch sis10:40
dogfoodbrainseth_k thank you10:40
ksozeby something less assy?  :)10:40
seth_kdogfoodbrain: LOL10:40
SheWolfok????10:40
seth_kdogfoodbrain: Ubuntu < une femme10:40
mic__back to pm shewolf10:40
Stew2I've got a fat32 drive I want to see under ubuntu. How do I mount it?10:41
SheWolfplease10:41
geetergodcrimsun, was there sposed to be a sound when i tested?10:41
Stew2sh10:41
seth_kStew2: http://ubuntuguide.org/#windows10:41
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pepsiseth_k, http://pastebin.com/29907610:41
run|helpanyone have info about grub-install dooming with a 'stage1 not read correctly' ?10:41
havochiya10:41
crimsungeetergod: yes10:41
pepsiall those packages complain of an MD5Sum mismatch10:41
naliothmez, i just prefer f/oss over proprietary and "free"10:41
crimsunxolotl_: sorry, getting around to your paste10:41
Mezdogfoodbrain, you scare me10:41
geetergodcrimsun, dang it10:42
crimsunpepsi: have you tried using another mirror?10:42
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seth_kbenjamin123: I believe you want metapackage language-support-en10:42
havochmm, new install, and init is all ot of wack;  load average in 'top' is steadily climbing10:42
crimsunpepsi: there's a known issue with us/ca10:42
pepsioh fun10:42
pepsiok10:42
alexwillmerI'm trying to access a share on a Windows XP SP2 host from my Hoary laptop. If the XP host's windows firewall is disabled all is well, but if the firewall is up I'm unable to connect. Openning ports on the XP host isn't the problem, they're already open. Is there some tweak I might be missing to have Ubuntu get through?10:42
seth_kbenjamin123: sudo aptitude install language-support-en10:42
xolotl_crimsun: no worries - I've been searching elsewhere too.10:42
MezI understand nalioth, ubt when it's proprietary i think its good to have the actual proprietary software available10:42
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benjamin123ok10:42
benjamin123ill try thanks:)10:42
kaliasnickrud: I got a big listing when I did that. Reading package lists... Done10:42
kaliasBuilding dependency tree... Done10:42
kalias0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.10:42
kaliasW: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main Packag es (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_main_binary-i386_Pa ckages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)10:42
kaliasW: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_restricted_bi nary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)10:42
kaliasW: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Pa ckages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_universe_binary -i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)10:42
pepsiwoah10:42
kaliasW: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates/mai n Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary-updates_mai n_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)10:42
kaliasW: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates/res tricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary-updat es_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)10:42
nickrudkalias, don't do that :)10:43
kaliasW: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-security/ma in Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary-security_m ain_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)10:43
Mezkalias - #flood10:43
kaliasW: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-security/re stricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary-secu rity_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)10:43
kaliasW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems10:43
seth_kah pepsi, should have guessed that was the error you got >_< sorry, forgot about the archive issues10:43
nickrudkalias, that's what pastebin is fore10:43
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seth_kpepsi, use http://archive.ubuntu.com temporarily10:43
pepsithanks10:43
kaliasoh, sorry, I didn't realize it did a flood, my mistake :((10:43
geetergodcrimsun, i cant get any sound10:43
crimsungeetergod: paste amixer output to pastebin10:43
geetergodcrimsun amixer output?10:44
Howitzer75mb complete for RTCW:ET \ o /10:44
Stew2I've got a Lucent Winmodem 56k. How do I make it work in Ubuntu?10:44
crimsungeetergod: yes. Type amixer, then paste its output onto pastebin.com10:45
nickrudkalias, a simple error.10:45
kaliasnickrud: http://pastebin.com/299079   I just learned my first what not to do. Sorry :(((10:45
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nickrudafter you change the sources.list, you must run update the package list10:45
geetergodcrimsun, http://pastebin.com/29908110:46
littlezoperlet's see if this channel is more helpful than #debian :)10:46
littlezoperi'm getting an md5sum mismatch when installing a package.  how do i tell apt not to check m5sums?10:46
pepsiheh10:46
littlezoperon kubuntu 5.0410:46
seth_klittlezoper: there's an issue with us and ca archives10:46
littlezoperin case that matters10:46
ksozecrimsun: this might interest you: after I rebooted, Audacity won't run again, despite the esd.conf file changes still being in place10:46
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seth_klittlezoper: use http://archive.ubuntu.com10:46
ksozeit's as though they are ignored on starup10:46
littlezoperseth_k: kinda figured so...10:46
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dogfoodbrainseth_k, L'OH, sguardo, l  Mario. Osserva cos divertente in quel cappello dell'idraulico.10:47
seth_klittlezoper: you can change those in /etc/apt/sources.list :)10:47
truz24I have two nics in my box, each one is connected to a different router, how do i tell ubuntu which nic to use for internet access ?10:47
theNeonGodhow can i improve the speed of audio extraction?10:47
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ksozebut if I restart esd, it then works10:47
ksozeinteresting10:47
littlezoperseth_k: what do you..that worked :)10:47
seth_kdogfoodbrain: no comprendo....10:47
littlezoperseth_k: thanks :)10:47
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ksozewell, I am gonna undo the change to prevent another hang10:47
seth_klittlezoper: not a problem ^_^ come again10:47
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seth_klittlezoper: will want to change it back eventually, the local mirror will be faster10:48
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crimsungeetergod: mute 'IEC958 Output' and unmute 'External Amplifier'10:48
littlezoper#debian refused to even attempt to tell me how to disable mdsum checking ("don't do that!" "it's important") and when I mentioned kubuntu, they slammed on the brakes10:48
DoonzDevice Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System10:48
Doonz/dev/hde1               1        9732    78172258+  83  Linux10:48
Stew2seth_k, Thanks for the mounting info10:48
Doonzwhat file system is that?10:48
littlezoperseth_k: thanks...i'll do that in a week or so :)10:48
randabisDoonz: probably ext2/310:49
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ksozeguess for now I'll kill esd every time I want to record, then bring it back10:49
dogfoodbrainlittlezoper, you should thank them. Disabling md5sum checking is normally unwise.10:49
ksozenot cool, but easiuer than a reinstall :)10:49
crimsunDoonz: mount|grep '/dev/hde1'10:49
naliothlittlezoper: they're not as friendly as we are in here10:49
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alexwillmerDoonz: you can't tell that from the partition table, but normally it will be ext210:49
geetergodcrimsun, done10:49
Doonzcrimsum what does that command do?10:49
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littlezoperdogfoodbrain: i realize that, but I'm just checking out ubuntu to see if I want to stay on it, so md5's aren't that important to me right now10:49
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littlezopernalioth: i've noticed :)10:49
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crimsunDoonz: it will tell you what filesystem type it is if the partition is mounted.10:49
littlezoperi'm a long time redhat and gentoo user, so...10:50
Doonzok10:50
randabisdancin' in the desert blowin' up the sunshine10:50
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seth_klittlezoper: Debian children are fun. Apt is wonderful10:50
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loplyevening folks10:50
littlezoperseth_k: i've used apt4rpm on my RH/fedora boxes...love it10:50
randabisI don't miss gentoo. :)10:50
littlezoperso far, (k)ubuntu is impressive...10:51
geetergodcrimsun, is checking them muting them or unmuting?10:51
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crimsungeetergod: if there is no checkmark, it is muted.10:51
littlezoperrandabis: yeah...so far, kubuntu has been as responsive as gentoo without the install pains :)10:51
loplydoes ubuntu store the drive/partition it thinks its installed on somewhere? As some packages failed to install because they were trying to access hdd1 (ive now moved the drive to hda1 instead).. i cant find where to change this10:51
xolotl_crimsun: I have been checking a few things and it looks like the onboard intel8x0 soundcard is somehow being detected and used even though it's disabled in the bios10:51
crimsungeetergod: I'd use alsamixer or amixer myself.10:51
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Doonzso if i want to mount that whole drive into a folder it would be10:51
Doonz/dev/hde1       /home/***/windows  vext2    umask=000       0       010:51
geetergodcrimsun, ok thats done that10:51
crimsunxolotl_: cat /proc/asound/cards10:51
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crimsunxolotl_: (in #flood)10:51
geetergodok10:51
Stew2I've got a Lucent Winmodem 56k. How do I make it work in Ubuntu?10:52
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geetergodcrimsun, in alsamixer for external speaker how can i unmute?10:53
xolotl_crimsun: done10:53
randabislittlezoper: I don't find the install process of gentoo that painful. I find the gentoo way of doing things painful :/10:53
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seth_krandabis: I dunno, nothing like installing Gnome for 3 days...10:53
littlezoperok...another question...i have gcc-3.4 installed, but gcc is not in the path (gcc-3.4 is, though).  if i install gcc, it requires 3.3.  is there a way around that10:54
geetergodcrimsun, i think i did it10:54
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littlezoperrandabis: yeah, once you've done it once or twice, it's not too bad... i do like how a gentoo system works, though.  portage is pretty cool10:54
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jadamyo10:54
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jadamI just installed ubuntu, and im wondering how I can get rythmn box to play mp3 files10:55
randabisseth_k: meh, took under a day on mine. ymmv10:55
randabislittlezoper: portage has its ups and downs10:55
naliothjadam: ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats10:55
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seth_krandabis, was exaggerating for effect ;)10:55
randabisseth_k: :) you should have said openoffice.org then :p10:56
naliothseth_k: for real! shoulda only taken you 1.5 days! j/k10:56
jadamok thanks10:56
jadamon to package manager now =)10:56
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jadamawesome10:57
crimsunxolotl_: ah.10:57
naliothsynd: check this out http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000717046384/10:57
crimsunxolotl_: would you like to use your audigy by default?10:57
crimsungeetergod: press 'm' to mute/unmute10:57
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seth_kdogfoodbrain, might look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3222010:58
geetergodcrimsun, im all set then for that part10:58
Doonz@server:~$ sudo mount -a10:58
Doonzmount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hde1,10:58
Doonz       missing codepage or other error10:58
Doonz       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try10:58
Doonz       dmesg | tail  or so10:58
xolotl_xolotl_: hmm - that's interesting: didn't even think to try that, but now I've got "sound" of sorts.  the microphone works.  # alsamixer -c 1 instead of just # alsamixer10:58
jadamhrmm ubuntu is a pretty slick distro10:58
Doonzwhats that mean?10:59
naliothjadam: welcome10:59
naliothjadam: to ubuntu10:59
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xolotl_Heads up to everyone with two sound trouble: you may have two sound cards..!  X-/11:00
crimsunxolotl_: if you want to use the audigy by default, do: echo "options snd-intel8x0 index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base11:00
crimsungeetergod: ok, test again.11:00
TheCanhi my mbr got overridden by installing windows. how can i get my grub back? grub-install /dev/hda doesnt seem to work when trying it from a chroot using knoppix? (using the ubuntu partition as chroot)11:00
crimsunsorry, but I have to go now for errands11:00
crimsunI'll be on much later tonight11:00
DeffyHow should I format my HD so that way I can use it as general storage by both Win Parition and ubuntu?11:00
seth_khave fun crimsun11:00
xolotl_crimsun: thanks for the help11:00
run|helpTheCan, im in the same boat ;-(11:01
seth_kif you were really serious about signing my key11:01
geetergodcrimsun, still nothing :(11:01
seth_kseth@sethkinast.com, shoot me an e-mail, I can buy you lunch on your way through :P11:01
TheCanrun|help, i know i already fixed this a few days ago but i forgot how i actually did it11:01
naliothDeffy: with lots of fat3211:01
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xolotl_Deffy: good question - as I think Linsux will read but not write to Winblows NTFS11:01
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anacronhow can i increase my audio volume without volume control?11:02
xolotl_geetergod: still having issues with your sound?11:02
geetergodyes11:02
TheCanrun|help, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html maybe this helps11:02
loplyis there no package in the repository for VLC?11:02
seth_kDeffy: you'll want to avoid doing that as much as possible though, because fat32 does not support user permissions11:02
geetergodxolotl_, or lack there of11:02
xolotl_anacron:  try alsamixer from the command line11:02
dogfoodbrainseth_k, thank you for forums url, you are very helpful to people here I am thankful11:02
naliothDeffy: i always install client machines with a 4gb partition for jsut windows (helps during the bi-annual cleansing) and the rest for everything esle (program files, etc)11:02
naliothDeffy: both partitions in fat3211:02
anacronxolotl_: tnx a lot!11:02
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xolotl_geetergod: what's the issue specificly11:03
seth_kdogfoodbrain: de rien11:03
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Deffynalioth: alright, I use the Windows OS for my Pro Tools work, but also want to use Linux for general use, and I want to make sure that I still can store the huge Pro Tools files on my 160GB storage drive11:03
geetergodxolotl_, i have no sound, i had it last night and when i was trying to get my surround sound to work i lost all sound11:04
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Deffywhile using the original 40GB for OS and OS related stuff11:04
naliothDeffy: fat32 will work well11:04
run|helpwhat is /dev/dm ?11:04
Deffythanks11:04
naliothDeffy: all ya need for linux is about 4 gb (linux can actually run proggys off other filesystems)11:05
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xolotl_geetergod: did you keep a hand written og of what you were doing?11:05
naliothDeffy: mind the bloat, tho11:05
geetergodxolotl_, no but ive been doing that ever since it happened11:05
xolotl_geetergod: good idea  ;-)11:05
geetergodxolotl_, sometimes good ideas come too late :)11:05
xolotl_geetergod: what kind of system do you have?11:06
ksozeok...I scripted something that kills esd, runs audacity, then restarts esd after audacity exits11:06
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geetergodxolotl_, Chaintech 7.1 sound card with Logitech x-530 speakers11:06
ksozeit's a kludge, but it'll work11:06
xolotl_geetergod: specificly is there multiple sound cards11:06
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geetergodxolotl_, i have the new sound card i put in last night and the old ones still in11:06
xolotl_geetergod: this could be an issue as I just found out with my system11:07
geetergodxolotl_, i was using the new sound card last night, sounded sweet... maybe the 2 are fightin11:07
xolotl_geetergod: which card are you trying to use by default11:07
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geetergodxolotl_, i have the speakers plugged into the 7.111:07
xolotl_geetergod: if you don't want to use the old card, I suggest taking it out and trying again11:07
geetergodxolotl_, it didnt look like it could really come out, i dunno, like its hooked to other stuff11:08
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geetergodxolotl_, how can i set my new card to be the default?11:08
xolotl_geetergod: it may be hooked to other stuff, but the new card should provide those functions - depending...  X-/11:08
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geetergodxolotl_, the new card is bigger and wont fit where the old one it11:09
geetergodxolotl_, is*11:09
djm62you can change the priority of the sound cards in /etc/modprobe.d11:09
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xolotl_geetergod: crimsun gave me a command to try - haven't done it yet: echo "options snd-intel8x0 index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base11:09
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djm62yeah, like that :)11:09
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xolotl_geetergod: what are the connections / cords going to on the old card?11:10
geetergodxolotl_, can you type that out so i can copy and paste?11:10
djm62but with the module name for your soundcard (which you can find out easily)11:10
xolotl_echo "options snd-intel8x0 index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base11:10
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geetergodxolotl_, theres nothing going into the back of the old card11:10
xolotl_so what are you worried about it being hooked to?11:10
djm62S/DIP or whatever to the CD drive?11:11
geetergodoptions snd-intel8x0 index=-2 it gave me this, xolotl_11:11
pepsionly 17 packages held back now :)11:11
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geetergodgeetergod@cpe-66-24-86-121:~$  echo "options snd-intel8x0 index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base11:11
geetergodoptions snd-intel8x0 index=-211:11
geetergod11:11
pepsimozilla-firefox is official broke-ass though11:11
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xolotl_geetergod: oops, sorry - snd-intel8x0 neds to be changed to what your card / driver is11:12
seth_khaha11:12
DaSkreechHello11:12
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DaSkreechWhat are the breezy Repo urls?11:12
geetergodoh, hmm.. where do i find my card?11:12
xolotl_one sec...11:12
seth_kyou just change all instances of Hoary to Breezy11:12
seth_kin /etc/apt/sources.list11:12
DaSkreechAh Thanks11:12
pepsiand then cross your fingers :)11:12
randabisand break your system :) yay11:12
djm62geetergod: tee means that that phrase gets output to you as well as to the file (a T-junction)11:12
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xolotl_geetergod: run # lspci and # cat /proc/asound/cards11:13
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robert__I am trying to setup a dhcp client at eth0. I have modified /etc/networking/interfaces and added 'iface eth0 inet dhcp'11:14
xolotl_then go to the ALSA-project.org website and look for the driver that corresponds to your card (new one)11:14
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geetergod0 [AUDIO2000      ] : ICE1724 - AMP Ltd AUDIO200011:14
geetergod                     AMP Ltd AUDIO2000 at 0xd800, irq 1611:14
geetergod xolotl_11:14
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robert__also..., ive added alias eth0 via_rhine in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases11:14
Efwishello, can anyone help me with a little help with a new sound problem??11:14
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xolotl_geetergod: then run the command like this:  echo "options snd-<YOUR DRIVER HERE> index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base11:15
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robert__restarted /etc/init.d/networking, did ifup eth0, and it brings up the eth0 in ifconfig, but it doesn''t grab an IP from the Comcast DHCP server11:15
geetergodxolotl_, AMP Ltd AUDIO2000 is my driver?11:15
thenukerobert__: try commanding dhclient11:15
robert__thenuke: i have11:15
robert__doesn't bring it up11:15
xolotl_geetergod, nope, that'd be your card11:16
dancec0mmandercan someone help me troubleshoot an internet connection issue?11:16
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geetergodICE1724?11:16
synic_anyone use a tablet pc?11:16
geetergodxolotl_, ICE1724?11:16
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robert__thenuke: I have another PC with the exact same configuration, also running Ubuntu, but it grabs the IP just fine11:17
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geetergodgeetergod@cpe-66-24-86-121:~$ echo "options snd-ICE1724 index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base11:17
geetergodthats what i did11:17
xolotl_geetergod, by the looks of things, your card is brand: AMP, model: AUDIO2000 - this is likely your old card11:18
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geetergodk11:18
jadamis there anyway to get ubuntu to be capable of writing to my ntfs windows partition?11:19
seth_kjadam: not recommended11:19
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robert__thenuke: is there anyway I can just copy all the files from the Ubuntu config that works into the one that doesn't?11:19
geetergodxolotl_, ive been at this for hours, i'll have to let my brother take a look at it, im gettin frustrated11:19
Dilkesof these three restricted files, which one will I need for Ubuntu Hoary release 5.04 on a Pentium II 350?11:19
Dilkes#  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-386_2.6.10.5-1_i386.deb11:19
Dilkes# linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-686-smp_2.6.10.5-1_i386.deb11:19
Dilkes# linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-686_2.6.10.5-1_i386.deb11:19
naliothjadam: there is a way, but it is not proven11:19
seth_kjadam: captive_ntfs if you realllly want to try11:19
jadamohh11:19
Dilkes< to add support for a lucent winmodem11:19
xolotl_geetergod, looks like you're going to have to do some searching to find out what chipset that card has.  AMP and Audio2000 are not listed on the ALSA soundcards list11:19
geetergodxolotl_, ok11:20
naliothjadam: will send the URL in a minim11:20
geetergodim gunna give it a break now11:20
jadamnah its ok11:20
jadamI dont want to ruin my windows partition11:20
geetergodxolotl_, thanks anyway, maybe i'll get it straightened out someday11:20
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xolotl_geetergod, ok - I'm off to install the true system - a little advice...11:20
dancec0mmanderdoes anyone here use roadrunner cable?11:20
naliothjadam: check it out anyway, ya might like it  http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/11:20
jadamdance0mmander: I do11:20
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naliothdancec0mmander: i have a roadrunner account11:20
robert__anyone?11:21
dancec0mmanderdid you have any problems with the connection being extremely slow with ubuntu?11:21
jadamnalioth: thanks11:21
jadamno11:21
jadamI get 600kb/s11:21
xolotl_geetergod, find out which chipset your card has - then write it down - this will be the easiest way to get your card working properly.  most 3rd party cards have non proprietary chips - I mean - at the least they're likely Intel or something.11:21
dancec0mmanderits not a latency issue or something with the DNS11:22
dancec0mmanderit just downloads at a really crap speed11:22
geetergodxolotl_, ok i will11:22
CarlFKxolotl_ - geetergod has the lspci ID's somewhere11:22
naliothdancec0mmander: my connection works fine under OSX, ubuntu and the dreaded winduhs11:22
dancec0mmanderi reinstalled XP to troubleshoot it11:22
jadamdunno, I download at 600kb/s with ubuntu11:22
naliothdancec0mmander: do you recycle the power at least every 2 weeks?11:22
naliothdancec0mmander: on the modem?11:22
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dancec0mmanderyeah11:22
dancec0mmanderthe connection is fine now that XP is back up11:22
dancec0mmanderbut when i booted the liveCD again same deal11:22
xolotl_geetergod, come back and look for me here later if you like.  I'll try to get back in and help out once I get my system up11:23
xolotl_CarlFK, thanks11:23
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naliothdancec0mmander: so this is not on an installed ubuntu?11:23
robert__so can anyone help me figure out why one installation of Ubuntu isn't grabbing an IP from the Comcast DHCP server, but one (with the exact same hardware config) is?11:23
dancec0mmanderno i did install ubuntu11:23
geetergodxolotl_, ok thanks a ton!11:23
naliothdancec0mmander: cuz the pkgs are a little old on the cd11:23
zerokillsanyone know anything about making ethernet cables? im having trouble.11:23
dancec0mmanderbut it happens on both the livecd and the install11:23
xolotl_geetergod, no prob11:23
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xolotl_robert__, are they identical hardware?11:24
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naliothdancec0mmander: do yourself a 2x favor. go buy a cheap linksys wired router11:24
robert__yep11:24
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xolotl_robert__, identical OS installs?11:24
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dancec0mmanderwhat is that going to do?11:24
robert__yup11:24
zerokillsanyone?11:24
zth_hey, would somebody mind helping me setting up alsa dmix?11:24
xolotl_robert__, are they hooked into the same switch / router / device?11:24
robert__Ethernet card is fine, my connection works fine with Windows11:24
jadamyeah the lynksys is awesome11:24
naliothzerokills: what is the trouble? its purty simple11:24
naliothdancec0mmander: it will take out any OS questions you have11:25
naliothdancec0mmander: iow, the OS will have nothing to do with talking to time-warner11:25
zerokillsnalioth: we made a ethernet cable to run to my brother's system from the router. but we're getting no connection11:25
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dancec0mmanderi guess that makes sense11:25
naliothzerokills: did you test for continuity?11:25
dancec0mmanderdo you have a URL for a good model11:25
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zerokillsnalioth: how do we do that?11:26
naliothdancec0mmander: r u in the US?11:26
dancec0mmanderthis is something i can pick up at a bestbuy/circuit city right?11:26
dancec0mmanderyeah11:26
dancec0mmandersan diego11:26
naliothzerokills: with a multimeter11:26
Mikswhy when i try to open my "users & groups" preferences, i get some error saying "child terminated with status 1" ?11:26
zerokillsnalioth: nope, is that what we should do?11:26
naliothdancec0mmander: go and buy a router from walmart, they sell a lower-brand version of linksys productes (don't remember the brand name, but its a rebranded linksys)11:26
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naliothzerokills: yes, when you manufacture something, it should be tested b4 use11:27
robert__nalioth: or he could pick up a dirt cheap 802.11b wifi modem from ebay11:27
loplyhow can I get the resolution above 1024x768 on gnome in ubuntu? I cant find XF86Config-4 :S (perhaps im old fashioned)11:27
robert__i wouldn't recommend anyone buying anything from walmart regardless how cheap it is11:27
nickrudloply, it's xorg.conf now11:27
Dilkesnalioth The walmart version can be reprogrammed with the alternate firmwares?11:27
dancec0mmanderthey are the devil but sometimes you have to be an agent of entropy, you know?11:28
dancec0mmanderhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1683312400111:28
dancec0mmandersomething like this?11:28
loplynickrud: Whats all this crazy change! In my day...11:28
naliothrobert__: they got dirt-cheap wireless at wally world (or frys if you're lucky enough to be near one of those)11:28
zerokillsrobert__: very true, i once purchased an item from walmart for a real cheap price, and the product did not work.11:28
naliothDilkes: depends on which one you get11:28
dancec0mmanderi can get to a frys11:28
nickrudheh, I was pissed at the -4 change11:28
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robert__returning stuff to walmart will give you gray hair11:29
zerokillsnalioth: can you tell me some basics about setting up the wires in an ethernet cable?11:29
naliothloply: ubuntu hoary uses xorg, not xfree8611:29
Howitzerhow do i open a .run file?11:29
loplynalioth: Ah right, I didnt know anything about that, is xorg a modern fork or something?11:29
zerokillsnalioth: for instance are the wires supposed to be in a certain ordeR?11:29
xolotl_returning stuff to walmart in canada is stupid easy - even stuff that's not exactly "new"11:29
Stew2zerokills. Orange stripe orange, green stripe blue, blue stripe green, brown stripe brown11:29
jadamok so I downloaded the nvidia glx drivers from synaptic package manager, do I have to load them? or restard the computer?11:29
loplyhavent used a linux desktop in qutie a while, and then it was an oldschool one11:29
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naliothdancec0mmander: then getcha a cheap wired router, unless you want a wireless (wired goes faster)11:29
robert__xolotl_: not here, the people are pricks11:29
naliothdancec0mmander: and is more secure (no wifi eavesdropping)11:30
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dancec0mmanderno i don't need wireless11:30
robert__it used to be easy11:30
dancec0mmanderthanks for the advice i never would have thought of it11:30
robert__but now i think they started cracking down since they got screwed11:30
naliothloply: something like that11:30
zerokillsstew2: cool, thats what we just set it up as, we're gonna try it now11:30
robert__my grandmother once returned an HP PC she bought there, after using it for four months11:30
xolotl_robert__, did you get my question about wether the systems are hooked into the same device11:30
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robert__xolotl_: they're not connected to a router11:30
naliothzerokills: each terminator has 8 sockets i believe, wire a should go from socket 1 on one end to socket 1 on the other end11:31
Stew2zerokills and it's handy to have your own 44 dollar ratcheting telemaster crimp tool11:31
naliothzerokills: and on and on11:31
xolotl_robert__, what /are/ they connected to - same net connection?11:31
Stew2zerokills unless you have pre-made cables.11:31
nickrudloply, as I understand it, the xfree leads changed the licensing, and some others took the opportunity to fork11:31
robert__xolotl_: well, i only have 1 connected to the 3com officeconnect cable modem at a time since i don't have a router yet11:31
robert__mine died and i haven't picked up a new one yet11:31
Stew2Does anyone know where the 686 or 386 kernal package runs by default on a P2 350?11:31
eyequeueokay, a possibly dumb, completely off-topic question, but i imagine this is the population to ask it of11:32
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naliothStew2: 68611:32
dancec0mmanderok i'm going to go pick one up, hopefully by the time i'm back here it won't be in windows11:32
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dancec0mmanderthanks11:32
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eyequeuesomeone is asking me, they have one opportunity to see the revenge of the sith, basically right now, but they have not seen its predecessors.  should they go, or will they not enjoy it because they won't know the backstory?11:32
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xolotl_robert__, The issue is probably that the ISP is only accepting 1 computer onto their network - the mac address of the 1 network card is the only mac addy the dhcp server will likely respond to11:33
naliotheyequeue: they'll love it11:33
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mz2hmm. is it possible to convert .tgz's to .debs?11:33
robert__xolotl_: they are the same ethernet card11:33
Yea`baby`How long does the Ubuntu free shipping take ?11:33
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mz2a bizarre problem :)11:33
naliothmz2: what kind of tgz?11:33
eyequeuenalioth:  even without the backstory?  cool, thanks, i'll tell him :)\11:33
mz2the slackware sort of tgz's11:33
Efwisok, I have all sound events disabled. Every few minutes I have to go to terminal and do a killall esd because I start getting this "alarm" sound, How can I stop this from happening all the time11:33
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Stew2nalioth  if I get #  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-686_2.6.10.5-1_i386.deb, is there an easy way to install the lt_modem.ko and lt_serial.ko into the kernal?11:33
robert__xolotl_: are you sure there's something else I haven't missed?11:33
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xolotl_robert__, you mean you take the 1 network card and put it into each separate computer every time you change computers???11:34
naliothYea`baby`: weeks? you acn go to a local university or linux users group if you want burnt copies now11:34
Yea`baby`How long does the Ubuntu free shipping take to get shipped ?11:34
robert__xolotl_: no, i mean the hardware is the same.11:34
naliothmz2: not sure about slack to deb11:34
Yea`baby`sorry for the repeat11:34
Stew2nalioth, Or into the folder /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/kernel/drivers/char/... which is what I meant..11:34
Yea`baby`nalioth: No one has them around :S11:34
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xolotl_robert__, right - the mac address for /every/ network card is different - think of the VIN numbers on a vehicle - same colour, same make, same model, same options - different vin11:34
naliothStew2: moving files is easy, i'm not sure about kernel stuff11:34
Stew2nalioth, I'm reading the wiki page on the lucentwinmodem and how to get it working in ubuntu, though it assumes I'm online already, and I won't be until I get the modem installed!11:35
robert__okay, I thought the mac addys were the same11:35
xolotl_robert__, just for giggles, if you've worn out every other option, try changing the network cards11:35
naliothrobert__: mac addresses on individual parts are always the same11:35
robert__xolotl_: the thing is, I have also tried to move the HD into the PC that had it working, and that didn't work11:35
Stew2nalioth, Well, the wiki says I have to install the restricted module because the licensing is different: it's not included with ubuntu11:35
robert__the OS booted, the connection stil didn't work11:35
robert__still11:35
kuntuhow do i change my mac adress ?11:35
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robert__xolotl_: I am pretty sure that there is something I must've missed11:36
xolotl_robert__, ok - still just a dhcp issue then11:36
naliothStew2: yes, ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats is one place to look (if there is no link there)11:36
nickrudStew2, getting that deb under windows  and doing dpkg -i  under ubuntu will work fine, I had to do something similar once11:36
xolotl_robert__, ok, lets go with that then11:36
kuntucan i apt-get tor ?11:36
naliothkuntu: you dont, it's hard coded11:36
xolotl_robert__, *thinking*11:37
buckykuntu, why because you got banned from #debian for trolling ?11:37
kuntunalioth, im just like you a reall god damn lier11:37
robert__lol11:37
robert__lier11:37
kuntuyou just have to set it up on the procs dir11:37
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seacydI need to transfer evolution to a new installation. How can I transfer all POP server accounts? Copying gnome2_private/Evolution does not work.11:37
nickrudStew2, but, after it's installed, and you've got a good connection, apt-get install  the package to get apt's database up to date11:37
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buckykuntu, your hardware is too cheap and you're too stupid11:38
afromanhi guys11:38
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Stew2nickrud So once I get the  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-686_2.6.10.5-1_i386.deb package for my P2 350 and save it to the windows partition, and mount the partition, what is the 'dpkg -i' command?11:38
MetalWolfhiya...11:38
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Stew2nickrud: tricky, i'm in cork ireland and the phone line is shite.11:38
MetalWolfi might be doing something *really* stupid here so bear with me...11:38
kuntubucky how do you know what hardware iv got ?11:38
xolotl_robert__, try running unpluggin the network cable, run tcpdump, plug in the network cable and see what it gives you11:38
afromanI'm having a prob...11:38
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nickrudStew2, it's roughly equivalent to rpm -i11:38
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robert__xolotl_: ok, what else can you give me to try?11:38
xolotl_robert__, I assume you've checked to see if the dhcp client process is running11:39
MetalWolfI get this Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/w/wmaker/libwraster3_0.91.0-2_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch when I try to apt-get install wmaker11:39
nickrudStew2, it that helps :)11:39
afromanI changed screens and now I can only have 640 as resolution11:39
Stew2nickrud Does it extract the .deb package to it's individual files?11:39
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robert__xolotl_: well when I run dhclient it just crashes11:39
MetalWolfI did an apt-get update and I'm all up-to-date11:39
MetalWolfsomething I'm doing?11:39
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robert__well, not sure if it crashes11:39
naliothMetalWolf: its a problem today with us. and ca. repos11:39
xolotl_robert__, haha - ok - /now/ were getting somewhere11:39
nickrudStew2, what it will do is unpack it, and run any configuration necessary for that package11:39
kuntucan i apt-get tor ?11:39
afromanI changed screens and now I can only have 640x480 as resolution11:39
xolotl_robert__, what's the error11:39
MetalWolfcan I use the same but a gb. ?11:40
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Stew2nickrud Cool11:40
robert__I haven't done ps aux|grep dhclient... so I'm not sure11:40
robert__maybe I should11:40
afromanI changed screens and now I can only have 640x480 as resolution11:40
robert__lemme boot up the other PC11:40
JorkarWhere can i find a complete list of software in Ubuntu?11:40
robert__hang on11:40
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xolotl_robert__, if it's a base Ubuntu install it should be running...  worth checking though11:40
nickrudStew2, the apt-get install --reinstall linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-686 may not be necessary, but it won't hurt11:41
afromananybody can help me11:41
robert__xolotl_: What can I do if it's not up?11:41
Stew2nickrud Which kernal do I have if I have the one that comes with Ubuntu Hoary 5.04? Is it the 2.6.10 kernel?11:41
kuntuwhy are so many ppl being broght to use ubuntu ?11:41
robert__and it does just crash11:41
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decafafroman: may be, if you ask11:41
kimoafroman: problem ?11:41
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afromanI changed screens and now I can only have 640x480 as resolution11:41
kuntuis it because its easlly hackable ?11:41
xolotl_robert__, what message does it give when it's crashing11:41
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kimoafroman: explain11:42
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robert__1sec11:42
Stew2afroman The monitor is not sending info through the video card as to the resolution, I think11:42
nickrudStew2, uname -r will tell you specifically what kernel version you have, but it is a 2.6.10 variant11:42
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Stew2afroman, I had a similar problem.11:42
xolotl_afroman, changed screens? what do you mean? did you change a config file?11:42
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munkikuntu , why are you full off stupid questions ?11:42
naliothJorkar: packages.ubuntu.org11:42
Stew2afroman, There's a file you need to edit and tell it what the refresh rates of the monitor are.11:42
dizzie:)11:42
afromanI meant I changed monitors, sorry11:42
kuntubecause im smart11:42
MetalWolfgb. works nickrud11:42
Stew2afroman, At least that's what I needed to do.11:42
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Jorkarthanks nalioth11:43
kuntui just dont know anything about programing11:43
dizzieDefine smart please :)11:43
munkikuntu , I see .11:43
kuntusmart != stupid11:43
afromanStew2, what file11:43
MetalWolfcheers11:43
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Stew2afroman I think it's the /etc/xorg.conf file11:43
nickrudnalioth, I think that thanks was yours11:44
chaps0063How can I adjust the brightness on my laptop, the current function keys do not work.11:44
xolotl_afroman, Stew2, that would be it11:44
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VoL_afkXD11:44
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kimoStew2: lol, I suppose it's not easy to specify some refresh rate, right11:44
Stew2afroman I dunno too much, it wasn't this computer i'm on, so I don't have access to what I did to modify it. It was weird, a fairly nice monitor that didn't have DDC11:44
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nico8481hi11:44
kuntui think many folks here think ppl should be punished for trying to use free open software11:44
afromanand how do I edit the file?? wot do I change??11:44
psychonatekimo, easier than you think. IMO the best way is to specify the manufacturer's sync ranges; X should use the best refresh rate for each resolution then.11:44
nico8481i can't get apt-get to install mplayer-586... says it is broken or something... is it normal?11:45
nickrudStew2, afroman it's /etc/X11/xorg.conf11:45
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Stew2afroman Ubuntu is playing it safe by only allowing 640x480.... it was frustrating for me.11:45
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JorkarAre you sure nalioth ? This adress doesn't exist apparently11:45
naliothnickrud: sorry? i'm just watchin the data flow by11:45
xolotl_afroman, go to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and look for Section "Screen"11:45
gm78Hey everyone. I am getting a buzzing sound coming out of my speakers with Hoary. I don't have this with CentOS and never did with Warty11:45
afromanand then..??11:45
kuntui hate the irc god like admins11:45
loplyhey folks how are you meant to change the screen res in X thesedays? Ive added 1280x1024 to xorg.conf and restarted, but it wont go into it still11:45
naliothkuntu: can you make your horns bigger?11:45
kimopsychonate: how do u add this, the way I know is generating X mode lines, which is freaking complex11:45
munkinico8481 , get the source ? -it's not on apt-get anymore .11:45
loplyeither by ctrl+plus on the numpad or by the config GUI program thing11:45
nickrudnalioth, a pointer to a good repository11:45
kuntunalioth, no but you can kiss my ass11:46
naliothJorkar: let me see11:46
chaps0063is there a script I can run to change the brightness on my laptop's lcd?11:46
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psychonatekimo, Monitor section in your xorg.conf11:46
afromanxolotl: wot do I do then???11:46
naliothhmmmm hmmmmm hmmmmmm11:46
Howitzeri'm having problems with RTCW:ET11:46
psychonatekimo, change the HorizSync and VertRefresh ranges to the ones recommended by the manufacturer.11:46
pepsiwoooo... only 2 packages held back now :) stupid mozilla-firefox fails when i try to remove it11:46
psychonatekimo, you can usually find the ranges in your user's manual or on a monitor database.11:46
gm78I think the buzzing sound might have something to do with esd but im not sure. i switched over to alsa and it seems to be a bit better (as well as actually playing sound) but the esd process keeps opening11:46
psychonateThat is what I do anyway.11:46
nickrudafroman, it that file I mentioned, you need to set the section in http://pastebin.com/299120 for your monitor11:47
xolotl_afroman, look under the sections that say: mode "1024x760" ...  and add in the resolutions of your monitor in the format "<horiz>x<vert>" "<horiz>x<vert>"11:47
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kimopsychonate: lol! yeah that's easy. Is this somehow new :)11:47
psychonateWorks well for me.11:47
nico8481can't xine or totem use external subtitles? it doesn't seem to work :( "xine file.avi subfile.sub" just plays the movie without any subtitle11:47
naliothnickrud: musta missed that11:47
psychonatekimo, is it new?11:47
psychonatekimo, not that I know of.11:47
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nickrudnalioth, no, you just kick out so much good info, you miss the thanks now and then :)11:47
xolotl_afroman, careful not to type out full nicks unless you get them right - use tab - otherwise irc clients won't highlight your responces / questions properly11:48
naliothnickrud: what is the URL for packages.ubuntu* blah?11:48
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nickrudlol, add a .com11:48
psychonateit's really not that hard though. I usually just google "<monitor model> specs" and get the ranges"; then put them in the xorg.conf11:48
psychonatenot hard11:48
kimopsychonate: well thnx. Which one H or V, is what we usually call "refresh rate"11:48
naliothshi***11:48
Howitzerargh11:48
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naliothJorkar: packages.ubuntu.com11:48
pepsivertical11:49
nickrudheh, I spent some time today on a dead path, because I looked in the wrong part of that page11:49
Howitzeri can't install the latest version of FF11:49
psychonateyeah, horizontal sync and vertical refresh11:49
naliothJorkar: sorry, thought everything ubuntu was org11:49
psychonatethe latter causes the "flicker"11:49
nickrudHowitzer, you don't need a ff other than what's in the repositories11:49
confreyanybody knowing something about 3d support for a sis M760?11:49
kuntuwhy dosent any one ansers security question on this damned irc network ?11:49
Jorkarnalioth: thank you very good11:49
Howitzerit says: Fatal Errir [-618] : Couldn't open xpistub library11:49
HowitzerFF=Firefox? :/11:50
nickrudnalioth, ubuntulinux is org, ubuntu is com11:50
kuntuhow do i detup a difrent mac adress at every bot ?11:50
Howitzerand RTCW:ET also gives me an error11:50
nickrudHowitzer, yes, the 1.0.2 in the repositories will have all the needed stuff from 1.0.411:50
kuntuhow do i setup a difrent mac adress at every bot ?11:50
afromannickrud, wot is that website U gave me11:50
nomasteryodabot/boot11:51
nomasteryoda?11:51
xolotl_afroman, you may have to restart X in order to get it to recognize your new settings.  also - have you tried using the quick keys to get to a usable screen size?11:51
gm78Does anyone know how to get esd to quit loading all the time since i use alsa11:51
gm78?11:51
Myrttilag11:51
nickrudhttp://pastebin.com/299120 that section in /etc/X11/xorg.conf needs to be set to the values for your monitor11:51
Howitzernickrud, i want to download some themes and extensions but the FF site doesn't allow it because i have an outdated version11:51
kuntuhow do i setup a difrent mac adress at every bot ?11:51
kuntuhow do i setup a difrent mac adress at every bot ?11:51
kuntuhow do i setup a difrent mac adress at every bot ?11:51
xolotl_afroman, <ctrl><alt><shift> <keypad +> OR <keypad ->11:51
kuntuhow do i setup a difrent mac adress at every bot ?11:51
kuntuhow do i setup a difrent mac adress at every bot ?11:51
kuntuhow do i setup a difrent mac adress at every boot ?11:51
Howitzerkick kuntu  :x11:51
kuntuhow do i setup a difrent mac adress at every boot ?11:51
Stew2kuntu you suck11:51
psychonatekuntu, wtf is your problem11:51
psychonatedie11:51
nickrudHowitzer, in about:config, search for vendorsub, and change it to 1.0.411:51
Stew2kuntu You are sucking more..11:51
xolotl_kuntu, dude - bad idea11:52
kuntuyes so do you11:52
kimokuntu: u cant11:52
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nickrudthat'll fool ff.11:52
Stew2kuntu more and more as time goes on.... the drain on the channel is palpable.11:52
CarlFKlspci shows: "Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller" - setup didn't detect it, network pref dialog doesn't see it.  anyone have any ideeas?11:52
kuntuof course i can11:52
Howitzernickrud, could you explain me that a bit more detailed? :x11:52
xolotl_kuntu, you'll get better results if you simply be patient and change your question up11:52
afromanxolotl_, the thing is that I don\t know what rate to use11:52
nickrudHowitzer, np11:52
kuntui can change the mac adress every boot11:52
naliothHowitzer: in your address bar of FF, put "about:config"  search the page for "vendorsub" and chenge the number to 1.0.411:52
nickrudin the location bar in firefox, type about:config11:53
kuntuyour just holding bat the information11:53
kuntuback11:53
Howitzeromg11:53
Howitzercool11:53
Howitzer:x11:53
naliothi'm missing all the kuntu fun, alas, i /ignored him11:53
xolotl_kuntu, sounds like you're up to something shifty - why the heck would you want to be changing the mac every boot11:53
nickrudthen, in the filter line, type vendorsub11:53
Howitzerare there any other pages like that nickrud / nalioth ?11:53
pepsiwhere are breezy bug reports filed at?11:53
nickrudabout:plugins is the best one11:53
kuntufor privacy11:53
gm78ok, im gonna try rewording this :P The Enlightenment Sound Daemon loads every time I log in, how do I make it not load?11:53
kuntusecurity11:54
naliothHowitzer: you can break your FF at that page11:54
naliothHowitzer: or you can pimp it up11:54
Howitzeroh11:54
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Howitzerlol11:54
naliothHowitzer: tread lightly11:54
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kimokuntu: it's built into hardware. U cant change it11:54
Howitzerpimpin' :D11:54
afromanxolotl_, the thing is that I don\t know what rate to use11:54
kuntuthe least the hacker know about me the better11:54
CarlFKpepsi - https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/11:54
Howitzerlol11:54
confreyanybody knowing something about 3d support for a sis M760?11:54
xolotl_kuntu,  get a router11:54
arkainiumIs there an ubuntu package for devkitPro (arm/ppc cross-compiler)11:54
pepsiCarlFK, thanks11:54
kuntuyou can change the way software reads it11:54
kuntuyou can mask it or something11:55
xolotl_kimo, not exactly built into the hardware, but close enough11:55
Howitzerplease make it work \ o /11:55
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jadamok11:55
Howitzerwooooooooo11:55
Howitzerit does work!11:55
Howitzeryou two are my heroes11:55
xolotl_afroman, that's a matter for research then - gotta find out what monitor you have and what it's specs are11:55
kuntuisnt linux able to route ?11:55
Howitzernow i can FINALLY do my tabbrowsing  o /11:55
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hendriksorry folks, where am i?11:56
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kimoxolotl_: it's not in hardware !! in firmware then ?11:56
xolotl_afroman, or you could run xorgconfig11:56
robert__xolotl_: ok, dhcp client definitely crashes and gives the msg "No working leases in persistant database."11:56
robert__er, dhclient11:56
afromanall right11:56
robert__This is after running ifup eth0 and then running dhclient11:56
pepsikuntu, ifconfig <interface> hw ether <mac>11:56
xolotl_robert__, whoever is giving out your dhcp addies has no more dhcp addies left...11:57
nickrudafroman, you need to look it up in your monitor handbook, or find it on the net11:57
xolotl_robert__, or at least, that's what they're telling you11:57
flodinecan someone piont me to s link to help me with my resolution 1900x120011:57
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flodineplease11:57
Howitzernow i know why FF is the best again! Extensions rule you all!!!!11:57
nickrudafroman, if ubuntu did not set it up right at install, it won't when you run dpkg-reconfigure xserver.org11:57
kimoflodine: open /etc/X11/xorg.conf11:57
robert__xolotl_: eh, I dont think so... Comcast uses DHCP and I'm running the DHCP client here fine11:57
xolotl_rob_lt, that sitll doesn't make any sense if you traded hdds and it still wouldn't pick up an addy11:57
Stew2I'm using xchat for winblows, how come '/ignore kuntu all' doesn't work?11:57
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robert__I have no router11:57
flodinekimo11:58
zerokillshey, if i type in pkill esd. how do i turn it back on?11:58
flodineok11:58
afromanxolotl_, can U help me find my monitor resolution, I have a compaq presario v51011:58
nickrudafroman, if ubuntu did not set it up right at install, it won't when you run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org11:58
robert__root      5683  0.0  0.1   2140   976 ?        S<s  15:54   0:00 dhclient3 -pf /var/run/dhclient.eth0.pid -lf /var/run/dhclient.eth0.leases eth011:58
robert__This is running the install that works fine...11:58
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flodinekimo what do i do11:59
kimochange the resolution11:59
xolotl_afroman, did you try xorgconfig and look for your monitor in there?11:59
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robert__then when I run ps aux|grep dhclient on the install that doesn't work, doesn't bring up dhclient at all, so I know it's crashing11:59
afromanI'm going to11:59
xolotl_afroman, hmm - the monitor - you need the model and make of the monitor11:59
flodinekimo i added 1900x1200 still wont see it11:59
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Miksmm i already edited a file in "nano" but i dont know how to save the changes :(...how can i?11:59
kuntuhow do i get  ifconfig eth0 hw ether <mac> to run every boot and to setup a random mac ?12:00
kimoflodine: u could launch xorgconfig12:00
robert__ctrl+x12:00

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