[12:00] <if> with apt-ge
[12:00] <if> t
[12:00] <Seveas> if, apt-get install linux-source
[12:00] <GNULinuxer> chaps0063, normally it'd be blue, but when you compile or something, it'd be green
[12:00] <if> Seveas thnx
[12:00] <xingmu> i'm using Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050526 Firefox/1.0 (Ubuntu package 1.0.4) and having some plugins like SwitchProxy and TabBrowser Preferences installed
[12:00] <chaps0063> GNULinuxer, how do I get the cpufreq panel applet, is that for gnome?
[12:01] <Seveas> chaps0063, rightclick on the panel, select add to panel and look for it
[12:01] <GNULinuxer> chaps0063, yes, it's for gnome
[12:01] <Seveas> it's called "CPU Frequency scaling monitor"
[12:02] <chaps0063> is there something similar for kde?
[12:02] <TokenBad> Seveas, I got apt-get to work for getting java by adding a couple sites to the list file...and then doing sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5
[12:02] <thenuke> chaps0063: gnome
[12:02] <Seveas> chaps0063, no idea, maybe the folks in #kubuntu know it
[12:02] <Tuxicity> Help, I cant connect to www.google.com in Firefox.
[12:02] <thenuke> chaps0063: oh I did not read your previous question :P
[12:02] <Seveas> TokenBad, ah hoary-extras from backports?
[12:02] <Seveas> Tuxicity, dns lookup timeout?
[12:02] <chaps0063> thenuke, hehe.
[12:03] <apollo2011> How do I find out where my internal modem is?
[12:03] <Seveas> apollo2011, open your pc and look :)
[12:03] <TokenBad> yeah think so
[12:03] <TokenBad> deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ hoary java
[12:04] <TokenBad> and 2 others
[12:04] <TokenBad> and it downloaded it fine
[12:04] <ompaul> seveas this looks like it about to try it out :) username all=(ifup) nopasswd
[12:04] <refuze2looze> how do i force my CDRom drive to eject?
[12:04] <Seveas> refuze2looze, eject /dev/hdc
[12:04] <Razor-X> refuze2looze: eject /dev/hdc
[12:04] <Tuxicity> Seveas: I dont know. Everytime I try to connect to google.com, Firestarter blocks "Sun-RPC portmap"... What is this?
[12:05] <Razor-X> errr, uhhhmmm, there you are ;)
[12:05] <hondje> Tuxicity: Do you have an nfs server running or smoething?
[12:05] <refuze2looze> thanks
[12:05] <Tuxicity> hondje: AFAIK I have no NFS server running
[12:06] <apollo2011> no seriously, how do I find out what /dev/... entry it is
[12:06] <hondje> Tuxicity: hrm, try ps aux | grep portmap, see if it's running
[12:07] <LinuxJones> apollo2011, >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DialupModemHowto
[12:08] <Tuxicity> hondje: doesnt seem like it
[12:08] <apollo2011> LinuxJones; That doesn't help because it only tells you how to detect external or use /dev/modem which I tried and didn't work
[12:08] <hondje> Tuxicity: then it beats the hell out of me why you get that :)
[12:09] <TokenBad> he I was going to download azureus for linux but what version to get?
[12:09] <apollo2011> kppp can not find:
[12:09] <apollo2011> /dev/modem
[12:10] <thoreauputic> apollo2011: I assume this is a winmodem (internal) ?
[12:10] <apollo2011> I guess so...
[12:10] <[freebsd> Excuse me, I need help with a wireless card. I grabbed the working NDISWRAPPER installation .deb, installed it, and yay. My card is a Belkin G, F5D7010, and I already got the Drivers. Its PCMCIA, and I loaded it with -i.. I tried both the .sys, and the .inf, but both say Invalid Driver with -l. I've tried rebooting. Modprobe ndiswrapper complains that the Operation of inserting NDISWrapper isn't permitted. Any ideas?
[12:10] <nalioth> TokenBad: any version will do
[12:10] <thoreauputic> apollo2011: if so, the driver should assign /dev/modem - do you *know* it's supported?
[12:11] <thoreauputic> apollo2011: if not, visit linmodems.org, and good luck
[12:11] <TokenBad> so linux gtx would work?
[12:11] <Tuxicity> hondje: I cant even load any website that has Google ads!
[12:11] <TokenBad> or linux motif?
[12:11] <thoreauputic> apollo2011: buying a second hand hardware serial external modem will save you a lot of time and grief
[12:12] <TokenBad> or linux ppc?
[12:12] <nalioth> TokenBad: linux gtk
[12:12] <Razor-X> get gtk
[12:12] <Razor-X> motif is... ugghhh
[12:12] <Razor-X> but, let me warn you, Azureus has a bug where it eats the whole CPU
[12:12] <TokenBad> ok
[12:12] <chileverde> and ppc is.. mac
[12:12] <[freebsd> PPC > You.
[12:12] <hondje> For now
[12:13] <nalioth> but java is java
[12:13] <Razor-X> chileverde: not really, Mac will be ported to the x86
[12:13] <nalioth>  a jar is a jar is a jar
[12:13] <Razor-X> [freebsd: the processor yes, the OS, no ;)
[12:13] <TokenBad> whats a bz2 file?
[12:13] <[freebsd> lol
[12:13] <[freebsd> Its a compressed package
[12:13] <nalioth> i run jar files on my mac all the time
[12:13] <Razor-X> nalioth: btdownloadcurses is being a bitch
[12:13] <[freebsd> like a Zip, or a tar
[12:13] <nalioth> TokenBad: it ws made with bzip2 (a file compressor)
[12:13] <Razor-X> bz2 == BZip2
[12:13] <Razor-X> yeah
[12:13] <TokenBad> open it with gunzip?
[12:13] <nalioth> Razor-X: so smack that bitch up
[12:14] <[freebsd> Can anyone help me with this Ndiswrapper issue?
[12:14] <nalioth> TokenBad: bunzip2
[12:14] <Razor-X> nalioth: wish I could ;)
[12:14] <adnans> [freebsd, try ndiswrapper from CVS
[12:14] <Razor-X> I can't get any speed on it, and have ports 6881-6899 on my router forwarded
[12:14] <[freebsd> adnans, would that require a full kernel rebuild?
[12:15] <sm-afk> hi all, what should I enter in Preferred Applications to open a compose window with running thunderbird ?
[12:15] <Razor-X> plus, it seems, the UPnP support sucks #^$*
[12:15] <adnans> [freebsd, checkout from CVS, then execute ndiswrapper/debian/rules binary, install the resulting .deb's
[12:15] <adnans> [freebsd, nope, just the kernel-headers of your current kernel
[12:15] <nalioth> Razor-X: the devil with port forwarding, DMZ your whole machine
[12:16] <shinu> why doesnt my 'FLCL' folder show up when i do [tab]  but i can cd into it when i type out the full name myself?
[12:16] <Razor-X> ahhh, linux, surfing the web in a graphical browser, an ssh shell, music playing, all while an updatedb is in the background ;)
[12:16] <konrad> Hi, can you send me default /etc/modules? I've removed it :P
[12:16] <Razor-X> nalioth: no, i'ld rather not ;)
[12:16] <Turoq> konrad haha :D
[12:16] <nalioth> Razor-X: why not? linux is 99% bulletproof (from script kiddies)
[12:16] <Razor-X> shinu: not added to the locatedb, is my guess
[12:16] <konrad> I hope it is not hardware-specific
[12:16] <[freebsd> Razor, not true.
[12:16] <chaps0063> Is there anyway to adjust the brightness on my lcd on my laptop?
[12:16] <Razor-X> nalioth: but, I don't boot into Linux 100%
[12:17] <Lafitte-> i need help with wireless problem...after screensaver and prompt for password    i loose connection and cant ever get dhcp again
[12:17] <Razor-X> [freebsd: go ahead then, I don't use BASH tab-complete myself ;)
[12:17] <Seveas> konrad, http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/64
[12:17] <nalioth> Razor-X: WHAT? no, j/k
[12:17] <Lafitte-> whats command to get dhcp to grab info from router ? i tried ifup eth0
[12:17] <Razor-X> nalioth: not my cohice
[12:17] <Razor-X> *choice
[12:17] <konrad> Seveas: thanks
[12:17] <Razor-X> as far as my dad knows, Linux doesen't exist on this machine
[12:17] <nalioth> Razor-X: so DMZ it while you're in linux
[12:17] <Razor-X> if it did, he'ld kill me
[12:18] <Seveas> Lafitte-, shclient eth0
[12:18] <[freebsd> Razor, theres more independent software you have to worry about on Linux, cant say its more secure unless you MAKE it secure
[12:18] <Razor-X> pain in the ass, actually
[12:18] <konrad> I have another problem, much more important
[12:18] <shinu> Razor-X: locatedb? 0.o but i dont think it needs to be in any such thing as other folders show up properly...
[12:18] <konrad> I can't install newest NVIDIA driver
[12:18] <shinu> just this one...
[12:18] <Lafitte-> Seveas,  kewl  let me try that
[12:18] <GNULinuxer> guys, searching for PHP on synaptic yeilds no results ... is PHP in the ubuntu repo ?
[12:18] <Razor-X> [freebsd: but the scope of about 99% of the attacks is targeted to the Windows platform
[12:18] <Seveas> konrad, install the linux-restricted-modules package from ubuntu, it has the latest driver
[12:18] <LinuxJones> konrad, can't you just stick the the current Hoary driver ?
[12:18] <[freebsd> Youd be suprised
[12:18] <Seveas> GNULinuxer, libapache2-mod-php4
[12:18] <Razor-X> shinu: run updatedb (it'll take most of your CPU) and then try it
[12:18] <Tuxicity> Seveas: what was that DNS stuff you were telling me?
[12:18] <Lafitte-> Seveas,  doesnt do anything for me
[12:18] <[freebsd> Who would WANT to 'hax0r' someones little PC?
[12:19] <Razor-X> and, enjoy your FLCL ;)
[12:19] <Razor-X> hopefully in VLC ;)
[12:19] <user_> hi
[12:19] <konrad> I had installed from DEB, hehe, I want to test CoolBits :)
[12:19] <Seveas> Lafitte-, then you have no connection :)
[12:19] <user_> I would need help in a strange mount problem
[12:19] <Razor-X> (FLCL totally kicks ass)
[12:19] <GNULinuxer> Seveas, why won't just PHP yeild any results? suppose I want PHP5 or something ...
[12:19] <konrad> LinuxJones: oveclocking fun with Coolbits
[12:19] <Lafitte-> Seveas,  i am on it now
[12:19] <Seveas> GNULinuxer, have you enabled universe?
[12:19] <tkiesel> Hiya everyone.
[12:19] <chaps0063> My brightness keys do not function correctly on my Fujitsu Lifebook T4010 tablet, any ideas?
[12:19] <nalioth> [freebsd: ask the groups who run zombie fleets of 30,000 or more PCs on broadband
[12:19] <user_> We would like to mount an NTFS partition for all users
[12:19] <[freebsd> lol
[12:20] <Seveas> and there is no php5 yet in ubuntu
[12:20] <konrad> -> Running runtime sanity check:
[12:20] <Lafitte-> Seveas,  bash: shclient: command not found
[12:20] <konrad> ERROR: The runtime configuration check failed for library
[12:20] <Seveas> dhclient
[12:20] <user_> but umask=000 doesn't work
[12:20] <konrad>        'libnvidia-tls.so.1.0.7664' (expected:
[12:20] <konrad>        '/usr/lib/tls/libnvidia-tls.so.1', found:
[12:20] <konrad>        '/usr/lib/libnvidia-tls.so.1').  The most likely reason for this is that
[12:20] <konrad>        conflicting OpenGL libraries are installed in a location not inspected
[12:20] <konrad>        by `nvidia-installer`.  Please be sure you have uninstalled any
[12:20] <konrad>        third-party OpenGL and third-party graphics driver packages.
[12:20] <konrad> -> done.
[12:20] <konrad> -> Runtime sanity check failed.
[12:20] <user_> the hdd is on RAID we think this is the problem
[12:20] <if> how install ati video drivers
[12:20] <Seveas> konrad, do NOT paste in here!
[12:20] <user_> promise fasttrak 100 tx2 ata raid pci controller
[12:20] <Seveas> if: http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/RestrictedFormats
[12:20] <Razor-X> user_: umask=0222
[12:20] <nalioth> user_: you do know that writing to NTFS partitions is not suggestable yet (can cause permanent data loss)
[12:20] <Seveas> if: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:20] <GNULinuxer> Seveas, how do I enable universe ?
[12:21] <Razor-X> err, wait, writing?
[12:21] <Seveas> sorry, just the last one
[12:21] <user_> yes I know
[12:21] <Razor-X> I thought you meant reading...
[12:21] <Seveas> GNULinuxer: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:21] <user_> we would like it for reading only
[12:21] <user_> but only root sees it now
[12:21] <Razor-X> then, umask=0222
[12:21] <thenuke> GNULinuxer: www.ubuntuguide.org
[12:21] <konrad> Seveas: Sorry :D
[12:21] <user_> thanks, giving a try
[12:21] <Lafitte-> Seveas,   oh  you typoes    heh e
[12:21] <Seveas> thenuke, ubuntuguide is wrong...
[12:22] <thenuke> Seveas: oh :o ?
[12:22] <Lafitte-> Seveas,  aww seems the same as ifup command does
[12:22] <Seveas> Lafitte-, yes
[12:22] <konrad> Seveas: do you have some ideas? of course I have uninstalled all DEBs with nvidia driver
[12:22] <Seveas> if you have eth0 inet dhcp in /etc/network/interfaces, ifup just calles dhclient
[12:22] <Lafitte-> Seveas,  thanks  ill try this next time it happens (usually need reboot)
[12:23] <Seveas> konrad, you should not use a driver fron nvidia.com
[12:23] <cyphase> I've gone camping. Talk to everyone later. Leave me a message if you want.
[12:23] <tkiesel> Anyone had trouble getting packages from marillat?
[12:24] <Seveas> tkiesel, marillat should no longer be used, causes dependency problems
[12:24] <GNULinuxer> Seveas, thenuke thanks a lot ... got it
[12:25] <konrad> Seveas: why not? OS drivers are crappy, and I always had newest drivers without any problem - I really need 3D acceleraion, and really want to test Coolbits :)
[12:25] <Seveas> konrad, because the ubuntu package has the latest driver...
[12:25] <tkiesel> Seveas: Ahh. Okay. I'm prepping a Ubuntu box for a buddy of mine who's new to GNU/Linux. One thing he wants is mp3 support, etc. Where should I go to get some of those packages that were formerly in mariallat?
[12:26] <thenuke> tkiesel: did marillat have something to do with mp3 :O
[12:26] <konrad> Seveas: no, it has 7174, i need 7664
[12:26] <Seveas> tkiesel, codecs can be found on mplayerhq.hu
[12:26] <battlecat> Hi Ubunties!
[12:26] <Seveas> mplayer is in ubuntu multiverse
[12:26] <Lafitte-> Seveas,  then wy sometimes i require reboot to get eth0 to gather dhcp again ?    it can still scan Ap's
[12:26] <nalioth> tkiesel: universe and multiverse
[12:26] <LinuxJones> tkiesel, you don't need Marillat for mp3 playback
[12:26] <Seveas> konrad, ah then i missed the last update, sorry
[12:26] <battlecat> Has anyone noticed that script sites these days are just filled with redundant trash?
[12:26] <chaps0063> how do I get my lcd brightness to change based on ac/battery?
[12:26] <thenuke> tkiesel: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[12:26] <tkiesel> nalioth: Universe and multiverse don't have w32codecs.  Or do they?
[12:26] <nalioth> tkiesel: make sure you have your deb-src lines uncommented, in case you have to pkg somethings yourself
[12:27] <Lafitte-> chaps0063, ACPI
[12:27] <konrad> Seveas: I have newer libc6 in Ubuntu and updated kernel and it works :) a litle tricky
[12:27] <Seveas> tkiesel, no but mplayerhq has
[12:27] <konrad> Seveas: nvidia 7664 will be in Hoary or in breeze?
[12:27] <nalioth> tkiesel: www.mplayerhq.org  and put them in /usr/local/lib/codecs
[12:27] <Seveas> only in breezy
[12:28] <newbie01> has anybody an idea how to recover the partition marked in the screenshot ? http://img247.echo.cx/my.php?image=snapshot18gt.png
[12:28] <konrad> Seveas: need to make some "changes" in /var/lib/dokg/status (and avaiable) and /var/lib/apt/ubuntu(balbla)packages
[12:28] <tkiesel> thenuke: Yeah, I know that. Doesn't work at present.
[12:28] <chaps0063> Lafitte-, i have it, how would I make adjustments with it?
[12:28] <Firsti_> I have installed Eggdrop with apt-get, now I'm trying to start it but it says: "CONFIG FILE NOT LOADED (NOT FOUND, OR ERROR)", where is that config file?
[12:29] <user_> thank u finally managed
[12:29] <user_> with umask=0
[12:29] <thenuke> Firsti_: have you read any documents which came with that eggdrop?
[12:29] <tkiesel> Thanks all. I'll be able to get what I need there. :)
[12:29] <Lafitte-> chaps0063,  let me check into it a sec  mine does it with  lightsensor via hardware    dims in dark or what not
[12:29] <Triffid_Hunter> Firsti_: eggdrop-installer maybe?
[12:29] <Seveas> Firsti_, read the documentation, this is not an eggdrop support channel...
[12:29] <konrad> system thinks, that have newer libc6 that it have :)
[12:29] <chaps0063> Lafitte-, thanks.
[12:29] <user_> we don't understand - but works
[12:29] <Firsti_> Where is documents?
[12:29] <Triffid_Hunter> on my distro, it installs all the eggdrop stuff in /usr/share, then symlinks it all into individual bot folders
[12:29] <konrad> newbie01: what was this partition - fat?
[12:29] <newbie01> konrad, ext2
[12:29] <Seveas> Firsti_, /usr/share/doc/eggdrop, or the eggdrop website (use google)
[12:30] <Triffid_Hunter> to save space, and be able to update them all at the same time
[12:30] <shinu> Razor-X: updatedb didnt really help... still cant do it...
[12:30] <shinu> Razor-X: when i do ls F* it doesnt show up...
[12:30] <newbie01> i already asked on #debian but the result was : learn how hard disks are organzied
[12:31] <konrad> newbie01: try this :)
[12:31] <tkiesel> Dinner time. Thanks for the help everyone. :)
[12:31] <konrad> newbie01: I am not an expert in this, but it will be very hard to do this
[12:31] <BockBilbo> hello
[12:31] <newbie01> i usually get the point of rtfm but in this case all i need to recover and i dont have any clue of filesystems and that stuff
[12:31] <TokenBad> ok question
[12:31] <BockBilbo> whats the name of the package with the source of the 2.6.10-5 kernel?
[12:31] <flodine> anyone got a geforce 5200 nvidia card
[12:31] <TokenBad> I am trying to download a torrent file..and save to a mounted drive
[12:31] <TokenBad> but when try it says permission denied
[12:32] <LinuxJones> newbie01, is there anything of value on that partition ?
[12:32] <konrad> flodine: i have that one
[12:32] <Seveas> TokenBad, make sure you have permission to write on that drive
[12:32] <flodine> konrad will it do 1900x1200
[12:32] <newbie01> LinuxJones, yes : 25 high resolution scanns done with a nikon cool scan IV
[12:32] <Turoq> i cant watch any mpg or avi movies, what packages i need to install ?=
[12:32] <Nazyr> Howdy All
[12:32] <LinuxJones> newbie01, it's an ext2 partition /
[12:33] <newbie01> LinuxJones, and some emails which could get interesting in the court
[12:33] <newbie01> LinuxJones, yes
[12:33] <konrad> flodine: hehe, mymonitor works only with 1024x768 - don't ask me for that, check in documentation and on website :)
[12:33] <thenuke> Turoq: http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[12:33] <thenuke> Turoq: check that for codecs
[12:33] <Turoq> k
[12:33] <Nazyr> anyone know what would be causing a Kernel Panic - not syncing error?
[12:33] <LinuxJones> newbie01, do you have windows installed ?
[12:33] <konrad> flodine: probably yes, if you had this in windows, in Linux will work too
[12:33] <newbie01> LinuxJones, yes i ve got a win2k system somewhere
[12:33] <TokenBad> drwxr-xr-x
[12:33] <TokenBad> thats the dir settings
[12:34] <LinuxJones> newbie01, you don't have partition magic per chance ?
[12:34] <konrad> newbie01: i have program to recover data from ext2, for windows, but never tested
[12:34] <flodine> konrad ok my ubuntu wont come up im on xp and im dieing
[12:34] <TokenBad> drwxr-xr-x
[12:34] <TokenBad> thats my dir settings
[12:34] <TokenBad> look same to me
[12:34] <newbie01> newbie01, i see the chance to get it recovered much bigger with linux since its an ext 2
[12:34] <newbie01> @ LinuxJones
[12:34] <konrad> flodine: black screen? have you tried to do: crtol+alt+-
[12:35] <konrad> flodine: left cotrl and alt and - (minus)
[12:35] <pfp> are there any azureus users here? how much is your memory consumption typically?
[12:35] <konrad> flodine: it wil change resolution to lower
[12:35] <thenuke> Turoq: oh and just about _everyone_ who is directed to follow that guide, skips the 2. part of those guidelines when it says "Read How to add extra repositories?" .. so please do that also before asking what to do when the thrid line of the quote wont work :D
[12:35] <Nazyr> can anyone help with a issue on a AMD64 NForce4 installation problem?
[12:35] <flodine> well i want to run it at 1900x1200
[12:35] <konrad> flodine: or better reconfigure your Xorg
[12:36] <Turoq> thenuke roger :P
[12:36] <nalioth> Nazyr: we need to know the problem
[12:36] <konrad> flodine: too hight resolution - I have to go, ask for this
[12:36] <if> how can i get kernel source with apt-get
[12:36] <konrad> flodine: ask how to change resolution refresh rate in xorg in ubuntu with dpkg-reconfigure
[12:36] <pfp> if: apt-cache search kernel source
[12:36] <konrad> flodine: and find your monitor documentation - wil need it
[12:36] <TokenBad> Seveas, my home dir which I can write to..
[12:37] <flodine> but the card dont support my size
[12:37] <TokenBad> and the dir that I want to write to
[12:37] <Nazyr> Nalioth: I was able to get the base installation finished .. but before I can install ATI drivers I get a kernel panic - not syncing error and system is then frozen
[12:37] <konrad> bye
[12:37] <TokenBad> have the same settings
[12:37] <LinuxJones> if, for current version sudo apt-get install linux-source-$(uname -r)
[12:37] <TokenBad> so how can I write to it
[12:37] <thoreauputic> if: apt-cache search linux-source actually
[12:37] <nalioth> Nazyr: i run PPC machines, but someone in here (perhaps now perhaps later) can help
[12:38] <Nazyr> thanks Nalioth
[12:38] <gabacho> can anyone help me with icecast2?
[12:38] <TokenBad> how man I make sure i have write access to a dir?
[12:39] <nalioth> TokenBad: use google "mounting partitions linux fstab"
[12:40] <gabacho> any help here?
[12:40] <TokenBad> nalioth,  the drive is mounted
[12:40] <TokenBad> and I can see it in my root terminal
[12:41] <NetGeek> is security.archive.ubuntu.com down also?
[12:41] <TokenBad> but if I using a program to save to that under my user account
[12:41] <nalioth> TokenBad: but is it mounted with full 'all-user' read/write priveleges?
[12:41] <Equinox_> One of my disks is acting badly(root fs) but I have two other ide disks (/dev/hda /dev/hdb).. I want to copy the data to one of them but in the fsck shell at boot time I can't mount them
[12:41] <TokenBad> I think so
[12:41] <Equinox_> The devices don't exist, my thernet card doesn't exist
[12:41] <Equinox_> Any idea what is going on?
[12:41] <nalioth> TokenBad: if so, you should have 0 problems writing data to anywhere
[12:41] <Equinox_> I mknod'd them but it says invalid block device when i try to mount it.. Probably something with devfs
[12:42] <Luakagon> first of all, thank all of you that have highlighted me with helpful information,  I am truly grateful that youve taken the time to help me with my computer problems.  I really need help though, to get my wireless internet working, I am trying to compile ndiswrapper.  I'm open...
[12:42] <calc> hmm package rgmanager has a good description
[12:42] <TokenBad> how to tell if it is set to all-user read/write?
[12:43] <shinu> goes vorbis-tools include the ogg-splitter?
[12:43] <thoreauputic> TokenBad: users,rw
[12:43] <nalioth> TokenBad: do the google
[12:43] <FR500> Luakagon, i did that 2 days ago
[12:43] <FR500> Luakagon, whats the prob?
[12:44] <Luakagon> I'lll privmsg you
[12:44] <TokenBad> I did
[12:44] <TokenBad> the page only talks about floppys and cdroms
[12:45] <nalioth> TokenBad: i do not have a x86 machine in front of me, but i've set up 3 clients in the last 3 weeks using fstab data i found via google, no client has had any trobule with their systems
[12:45] <nalioth> TokenBad: there are far more links than cdroms and floppys
[12:46] <thoreauputic> TokenBad: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html
[12:47] <TokenBad> ok how come I don't see the mounted drive in fstab?
[12:47] <TokenBad> but I can access the drive?
[12:47] <TokenBad> and even send files from that drive
[12:47] <flodine> can someone tell me will ubuntu support 1900x1200 or not
[12:48] <nalioth> TokenBad: YOU have to edit the fstab
[12:48] <thoreauputic> TokenBad: either you are misreading fstab, or you need to add an entry
[12:48] <nalioth> TokenBad: and if you can read/write to the drive now, i don't have a clue why you can't write to a certain directory on it
[12:50] <newbie01> still the partition recover topic here : http://pastebin.com/298634 is the result of testdrive "deep search" / http://img247.echo.cx/my.php?image=snapshot18gt.png  where the marked partition is the one i need to recover. really need help
[12:51] <xry> Does Ubuntu Live-CD support shred?
[12:51] <nalioth> xry: r u using the livecd now?
[12:51] <xry> no, downloading..
[12:51] <nalioth> xry: if so, open a terminal and type "shred" w/o any arguments
[12:51] <xry> Thanks..
[12:51] <FR500> HrdwrBoB, you told me how to set KSRC to the correct path the other day, do you remember how?
[12:52] <xry> Is shred secure? Don't want people to read my data after formatting ;)
[12:52] <Turoq> hmm i installed those codecs but now when i open .avi, i hear sounds but i dont see anything
[12:52] <thoreauputic> xry: given that the live CD is a virtual clone of an install, and the install includes shred, my guess is yes
[12:52] <nalioth> xry: to use shred properly, it takes days
[12:53] <thoreauputic> xry: depends how paranoid you want to be
[12:53] <xry> So shred is secure? Just you have to use it right?
[12:53] <marsh> Hey! I've written a script, but I'm a bit noob... could someone have a look and tell me why I'm getting a list of all the vars on my system before it does it's work???
[12:53] <nalioth> xry: depending on the amount of data you are using it on, proper use can take days
[12:53] <thoreauputic> xry: you can also overwrite with random data and or zeros
[12:53] <xry> Sending my (almost) defective harddrive back to the shop i got it from, just wanted to format it secure first
[12:54] <marsh> xry - can you not just dd it with random numbers?
[12:54] <nalioth> xry: easiest way is industrial magnet
[12:54] <xry> Then i found Active Killdisk, but it doesn't support SATA, then someone told me about ubuntu and shred
[12:54] <nalioth> xry: shred will do the trick
[12:55] <xry> Live-CD have built in drivers for SATA?
[12:55] <TokenBad> ok
[12:55] <TokenBad> I edited fstab
[12:55] <marsh> No-one up for helping me with me script? it's only little... :o(...
[12:55] <TokenBad> do I need to reboot for it to work?
[12:55] <thoreauputic> TokenBad:  just type sudo mount -a
[12:56] <nalioth> TokenBad: no, just issue a mount command (unmount your drive if it is already mounted)
[12:56] <TokenBad> ok
[12:57] <drasko> hi all. How to go to the gnome applications menu in nautilus... Writing applications:// don't work
[12:57] <Grumbly> eep
[12:57] <Razor-X> hmmm... I don't know if it's good for my sister's development by letting her listen to Japanese music at such an early age....
[12:57] <Grumbly> hey, I am needin' some help configuring a g4 cube
[12:58] <Grumbly> anybody versed?
[12:58] <Razor-X> g4 cube?
[12:58] <Grumbly> yep.
[12:58] <TokenBad> when try umount
[12:58] <Razor-X> a 4th dimensional cube?
[12:58] <TokenBad> it says device is busy
[12:58] <Razor-X> TokenBad: that's because something is using it, of course
[12:58] <Grumbly> Razor-X: no- a macintosh with a g4 ppc processor
[12:59] <Razor-X> Grubly: ahhh, ;)
[12:59] <TokenBad> right but don't have anything going but my terminal
[12:59] <TokenBad> and xcat
[12:59] <TokenBad> xchat
[12:59] <nalioth> Grumbly: whatcha got?
[12:59] <dhruv> i need help, can anyone help?
[12:59] <Razor-X> sorry, I don't know much about PPC processors myself, other than they're kickass and have a shitload of registers
[12:59] <Grumbly> After installation, NO GDM.  says it's not configured correctly
[12:59] <Razor-X> TokenBad: xchat could be running in the mount directory, or one of your terminals can be too
[01:00] <Grumbly> nalioth: g4 450mhz Cube.  ATI vid card, but not a good one
[01:00] <nalioth> Grumbly: using hoary?
[01:00] <dhruv> <-------------------------------- NEEDS HELP!!
[01:00] <Razor-X> dhruv: shoot
[01:00] <Grumbly> yeah
[01:00] <Grumbly> thats the new one, right?
[01:00] <dhruv> i downloaded limewire, and installed it
[01:00] <Razor-X> nalioth: hmm, I was toying with an idea of making a counter for the newbie gods, for every person we help, we add 1 ;)
[01:01] <dhruv> i now see it in applications>internet>limewire
[01:01] <dhruv> but it wont run
[01:01] <dhruv> why?
[01:01] <Razor-X> and by the end of the day, whoever helps the most, they get bragging rights ;)
[01:01] <Grumbly> the error it gives me is something about cyrillic, but I didnt even set that up
[01:01] <nalioth> Grumbly: follow this and choose vesa instead of ati  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:01] <nalioth> Razor-X: that is so gauche
[01:01] <dhruv> razor do you know why?
[01:02] <Razor-X> left-handed?
[01:02] <sascha_> hi, how can I change the standard language of my system?
[01:02] <hondje> hehe
[01:02] <Razor-X> dhruv: hmmm
[01:02] <Luakagon> gauche means ackward too
[01:02] <Razor-X> type limewire in a console
[01:02] <hondje> "I did something that didnt' work. why didn't it work." :)
[01:02] <psychonate|away> Has anyone set up a Voodoo 2 in Ubuntu?
[01:02] <dhruv> where is the console
[01:02] <dhruv> the terminal?
[01:02] <Razor-X> Luakagon: heh, well, haven't heard it used it too often
[01:02] <nalioth> dhruv: try gtk-gnutella instead of limewire
[01:02] <Razor-X> dhruv: uh, yeah, sorry
[01:02] <flodine> can someone tell me will ubuntu support 1900x1200 or not
[01:03] <Razor-X> flodine: yeah, it does
[01:03] <nalioth> flodine: yes
[01:03] <thoreauputic> flodine: I guess that depends on your vid card more than on Ubuntu per se
[01:03] <Razor-X> nalioth: even using bittornado's btdownloadcurses doesen't help
[01:03] <dhruv> razor x where do i get that?
[01:03] <geneo93> well i got my kppp issue fixed
[01:03] <nalioth> Razor-X: help what?
[01:03] <flodine> will a nvidia fx 5200 work
[01:03] <Razor-X> dhruv: click terminal, and type 'limewire'
[01:03] <Razor-X> nalioth: speed
[01:03] <dhruv> i did
[01:03] <hondje> flodine: probably, if you monitor supports that
[01:04] <dhruv> it said its not a command
[01:04] <Razor-X> what ports does it use by default?
[01:04] <hondje> I can't imagine that resolution and not being at like 60Hz though
[01:04] <Razor-X> dhruv: try "locate *limewire*"
[01:04] <dhruv> limewire?
[01:04] <geneo93> dhruv:  is it a jar file
[01:04] <Razor-X> no, not limewire, I was asking nalioth
[01:04] <sascha_> can anybody help with languagechange please?
[01:05] <hondje> sascha_: I missed it, summarize?
[01:05] <jind> The sound in gnome does not work. Does anybody know of a fix? The problem is only in Gnome.
[01:05] <dhruv> there is only a       xml
[01:05] <dhruv> limewire.xml
[01:05] <dhruv> thats it
[01:05] <jind> Btw, I use Hoary
[01:05] <Razor-X> hmmm....
[01:05] <thoreauputic> sascha_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[01:05] <Cal[] John> Guys, how to I run python programs?  Sorry, i'm brand new.
[01:05] <Cal[] John> *how do i
[01:05] <Razor-X> the shitty thing about locate is that, the database is updated so infrequently............
[01:05] <nalioth> Razor-X: 6881, but you should change it in the rc file to 43000>
[01:05] <sascha_> hondje, I would like to change my standard language for ONE user to english
[01:05] <Razor-X> Cal[] John: type in the name of the program, and of you go
[01:05] <geneo93> python (file)
[01:05] <Razor-X> nalioth: hmmm, I see
[01:05] <dhruv> RAzor X, so what do i use to download music
[01:06] <hondje> sascha_: easy enough
[01:06] <Razor-X> dhruv: quite a few things
[01:06] <nalioth> dhruv: gtk-gnutella
[01:06] <dhruv> how do i get that?
[01:06] <Cal[] John> hmmm, must be something wrong with were the install put it
[01:06] <geneo93> nicotine
[01:06] <dhruv> how do i download gtk gnutella
[01:06] <Luakagon> good question Cal[] John :D
[01:06] <Razor-X> dhruv: emule, Gnutella (same network as Limewire), BitTorrent, and others
[01:06] <dhruv> emule is slow as hell
[01:06] <sascha_> hondje, ??
[01:06] <dhruv> im downloading at .9
[01:06] <nalioth> dhruv: use synaptic
[01:07] <Razor-X> dhruv: not if you download it for a while
[01:07] <dhruv> kk
[01:07] <dhruv> its been downloading for a while
[01:07] <Cal[] John> Luakagon: sorry  it's just that I googled and googled, but there wasn't anywhere that actually said :)
[01:07] <dhruv> as time goes by and im getting close to finnishing, it gets slower and slower
[01:07] <Razor-X> the thing that most people don't try and understand about emule is that, you have to share for about a day, or so, before speeds pick up
[01:07] <Luakagon> I dont know either is why I said its a good question
[01:07] <Razor-X> but then, _all_ your downloads speeds will increase
[01:08] <Razor-X> the longer you keep sharing files, and uploading, the higher your speed will get
[01:08] <hondje> sascha_: sudo apt-get install language-support-en language-pack-en language-pack-en-base
[01:08] <moqui> Razor-X, why is that? is there a point system?
[01:08] <jason^> hey dudes, in gaim, sounds are not playing right, they only play like half of a second or so, is there any fix for that?
[01:08] <hondje> sascha_: then you should be able to pick english as your language in the GDM login screen
[01:08] <Razor-X> it's a strictly give-get relationship, which most people don't like, because they do the getting part, and not a giving part
[01:08] <Razor-X> moqui: very useful if you like to stay on a P2P 24/7
[01:08] <sascha_> hondje, hmmmm, going to try
[01:09] <moqui> Razor-X, so you get something like karma points for staying on and sharing longer
[01:10] <dhruv> razor is the gnetuella thing like the give-get thing too?
[01:10] <Kleggas> I just installed apache2 with php4 following http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/LAMPForHoary and it doesn't work. anyone have any idea whats missing in that page?
[01:11] <nalioth> dhruv: bittorrent is the give-get thang
[01:11] <dhruv> wtf... razor just said emule is
[01:11] <dhruv> my download keeps going slower and slower on emule, im at freaking .4 right now
[01:11] <moqui> nalioth, bittorrent is good for downloading the latest distros
[01:11] <thoreauputic> Kleggas: interesting that you make the assumption it's the page that is wrong...
[01:12] <nalioth> moqui: indeed it is
[01:12] <Kleggas> thechitowncubs: sure, why not? it says how to install it, and it doesn't work :p
[01:12] <Gus> hello
[01:12] <moqui> hello Gus
[01:12] <nalioth> moqui: and creative-commons licensed videos and audio
[01:12] <moqui> nalioth, absolutely
[01:12] <hondje> I hate when people say that crap, like it's not an obvious lie nalioth :P
[01:12] <thoreauputic> Kleggas: It must be great to be infallible ... ;-)
[01:13] <moqui> :)
[01:13] <Kleggas> thoreauputic: nah, sometimes it is, sometimes not
[01:13] <nalioth> hondje: i have to set a good example in here
[01:13] <Kleggas> thechitowncubs: any idea what to do or u just sit here and talk?
[01:13] <nalioth> hondje: no matter how seedy and depraved my personal life is
[01:13] <hondje> well, can't argue with that :)
[01:13] <Gus> i'm trying to install firefox's plugin for totem, but everytime i load a file, it says "cannot open fd:\\0" or something...
[01:14] <Gus> anyone have any idea for me ? =)
[01:15] <Gus> i've tried following this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=23257&page=2 but instead of just not working for GIFs it doesn't work for anything =/
[01:16] <Tallia1[UbuntU] 2> hi guys, i'm andrea. i need a hand about a problem with psnup..... lately it happens that if i wanna print a multipage of 4 pages it is printed in the following (wrong) layout
[01:16] <Tallia1[UbuntU] 2> 3 1
[01:16] <Tallia1[UbuntU] 2> 4 2
[01:16] <Tallia1[UbuntU] 2> but i'd like this layout:
[01:16] <Tallia1[UbuntU] 2> 1 2
[01:16] <psychonate|away> Does Hoary use devfs?
[01:16] <Tallia1[UbuntU] 2> 3 4
[01:17] <thoreauputic> Tallia1[UbuntU] 2: just a guess: portrait vs landscape?
[01:17] <Tallia1[UbuntU] 2> nope..
[01:17] <godber> anyone seen an md5sum mismatch error with bluez-utils off of the us mirrors?
[01:18] <Tallia1[UbuntU] 2> the layouts i've just shown you is portrait both
[01:18] <godber> like this
[01:18] <Tallia1[UbuntU] 2> are*
[01:18] <godber> "Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/b/bluez-pin/bluez-pin_0.24-1_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch"
[01:18] <Gus> noone to help me with totem and firefox ?
[01:18] <thoreauputic> Tallia1[UbuntU] 2: i meant, hav eyou tried it the other way?
[01:18] <Tallia1[UbuntU] 2> ?
[01:18] <synd> godber: i got this Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  MD5Sum mismatch
[01:18] <Tallia1[UbuntU] 2> what do you mean?
[01:18] <psychonate|away> Does Hoary use devfs?
[01:18] <nickrud> psychonate no
[01:18] <nickrud> udev
[01:18] <psychonate|away> thank you
[01:19] <ablyss> is it too much to ask what devfs and udev or?
[01:19] <ablyss> or/are
[01:19] <thoreauputic> Tallia1[UbuntU] 2: if you rotate that layout 90 degrees, you have the other one
[01:19] <ablyss> i know what /dev is but.. not udev or devfs
[01:19] <TokenBad> ok...I mounted and redit it..even rebooted machine
[01:19] <nickrud> ablyss very broadly, they populate /dev for you automatically
[01:19] <TokenBad> and still can't write to that drive
[01:19] <TokenBad> I give up
[01:20] <ablyss> ty
[01:20] <TokenBad> now..
[01:20] <nalioth> Gus: try back later
[01:20] <ablyss> nickrud :)
[01:20] <TokenBad> how come it will not init the base sound services
[01:20] <TokenBad> ?
[01:20] <psychonate|away> How can I see what groups I am or add myself to a new group?
[01:20] <Gus> nalioth, yup, i'll have to do that =P
[01:20] <nickrud> ablyss devfs is pretty much dead, udev is current
[01:20] <nalioth> TokenBad: don't give up
[01:20] <ablyss> got it ty
[01:20] <nalioth> TokenBad: there are many ways to have the line in fstab
[01:21] <miracleblue> morning
[01:21] <miracleblue> ^_^
[01:21] <miracleblue> wow, is everyone asleep?
[01:22] <rabbit_> anyone use vlan?
[01:22] <miracleblue> nope, guess not
[01:22] <zukalk> rabbit: you mean vlc?
[01:22] <miracleblue> nerf
[01:22] <rabbit_> zukalk: yup
[01:22] <zukalk> sometimes
[01:22] <zukalk> but sometimes it can't read what xine cna
[01:22] <zukalk> can*
[01:22] <miracleblue> heya guys, hows it going?
[01:23] <zukalk> hey
[01:23] <rabbit_> zukalk: when I tried to install it last time it said it was missing libraries, where do you go to get these missing libraries?
[01:23] <zukalk> i guess it's the wxWidgets
[01:23] <miracleblue> im trying to get ubuntu to play mp3s, and it hates me
[01:23] <zukalk> how did you try to install?
[01:23] <rabbit_> zukalk: like ffmepeg and some other stuff
[01:23] <miracleblue> it just wont do it
[01:23] <Amaranth> miracleblue: you need the gstreamer-mad package
[01:24] <rabbit_> zukalk: with a different distros rpm
[01:24] <zukalk> rabbit: did you follow the multimedia steps in ubuntuguide?
[01:24] <nalioth> miracleblue: have you enabled universe and multiverse
[01:24] <miracleblue> ah, i see, through the synaptic package manager ^_^ no i havent, ill give that a try right now
[01:24] <rabbit_> zukalk: nope, went to the vlc hiome page and did whatever distro was there
[01:24] <rabbit_> firgured linux was linux
[01:24] <zukalk> what's the url?
[01:25] <rabbit_> one sec
[01:25] <Razor-X> rabbit_: sudo apt-get vlc
[01:25] <jono> hi all
[01:25] <rabbit_> zukalk: wait  a minute, there is an ubuntu guide for vlc?
[01:25] <zukalk> razor's right, apt-get should solve everything
[01:25] <thoreauputic> Razor-X: erm .. sudo apt-get install vlc
[01:25] <jono> how do I check the name severs for my domain are known by the top level registrar?
[01:25] <zukalk> rabbit_ : a guide for ubuntu, generally speaking: www.ubuntuguide.org
[01:26] <miracleblue> nalioth: im just enabling it now, so the package name is gstreamer-mad?
[01:26] <zukalk> i'm guessing you're new to it, like me
[01:26] <rabbit_> zukalk: I'll go there and try that one, thanks
[01:26] <zukalk> rabbit_ like razor-x said, try using the command ' sudo apt-get install vlc '
[01:27] <rabbit_> zukalk: I am new to everything linux except the installation process..did it like 3 or 4 times already
[01:27] <nalioth> miracleblue: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HowToEnableTheMultiverseRepositoryInUbuntu add this one too
[01:27] <rabbit_> Razor-X: oh ok, cool, thanks
[01:27] <miracleblue> thanks ^_^
[01:27] <rabbit_> zukalk: will do
[01:28] <geetergod> Can someone walk me through hard to install a new soundcard?
[01:28] <geetergod> ide appreciate it
[01:28] <miracleblue> im incredibly new to linux, i only managed to get pppoe working by the skin of my teeth and 3 days of learning command line the hard way before giving up and burning roaring penguin's pppoe thingy to disc
[01:29] <novaflare> ahh finaly got the look i want for my desk top
[01:29] <lurah> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA --->http://msmvps.com/gplthedarkside/articles/856.aspx
[01:29] <lurah> =)
[01:29] <novaflare> a deep dark read color heh
[01:29] <miracleblue> my desktop is purdy...sorta
[01:29] <miracleblue> well i tried
[01:29] <zukalk> miracleblue: have faith, i was in the same situation a month ago. you'll see, after solving your probs, you won't ever want windows again ;)
[01:29] <novaflare> and i mean real dark heheh
[01:29] <nobile> brb reboot
[01:30] <max00> Hi, if you want the last starwars episode (revenge of the sith - FullDivx 2X700MB), you can download it at: www.starwars-fr.org/xxl/
[01:30] <miracleblue> zukalk: i dloaded linux to get away from windows in the first place ^_^ been using it for 10 years, im sick of it, and my apple died 4 months after getting it, and i dont wanna be stuck on windows again
[01:30] <JovenComunista> how can i install the gift-fasttrack plugin for the apollon?
[01:30] <geetergod> If someone has a sec i could use help installing my new soundcard
[01:30] <miracleblue> zukalk: so ive now had linux for 3 days
[01:30] <JovenComunista> ??????
[01:31] <zukalk> miracleblue: well, at least you *tried* avoiding microsoft through apple, it's a start :P
[01:32] <miracleblue> zukalk: i loved my apple, i love Mac OS X more than any OS in the world, it's just that the logic board is gonna cost $850 to replace, money which i donty have, so i thought, for the time being, why not get linux for my pc?
[01:33] <nalioth> miracleblue: they did not replace your logic board at no charge?
[01:33] <JovenComunista> >:/
[01:33] <miracleblue> nalioth: no, im not under warranty
[01:33] <hondje> I just got the logic board in the missus' mini mac replaced
[01:34] <hondje> warranty == goodness
[01:34] <nalioth> miracleblue: i take it you bought a 'pre-owned' mac?
[01:34] <hondje> But now it runs slower, unstable.  Damn apple...
[01:34] <geetergod> Can someone help me install my new soundcard?
[01:34] <miracleblue> nalioth: yep.  thats the wonders of ebay
[01:35] <miracleblue> nalioth: I wanted that exact model powerbook for 4 years before i got it.  1 gig ram, 2 extra batteries, 15 inch, it was a dream
[01:35] <miracleblue> nalioth: a dream that ended quite abruptly 4 months later
[01:35] <JovenComunista> ANYONE KNOWS HOW TO INSTALL THE GIFT_FASTTRACK PLUGIN FOR APOLLON???
[01:35] <nalioth> miracleblue: the next dream can come from the apple store (they give away refurbs every day)
[01:35] <thoreauputic> JovenComunista: shouting and repeating won't help you
[01:35] <Xyc0> um, that BT tracker has been down for a while now, its not hard to set a new one up
[01:36] <hondje> Entertaining theatrics might, though
[01:36] <miracleblue> nalioth: ah if my apple store did that i'd know about it.  might check that though, i dont think they do.  i'm in australia, hurrah
[01:36] <Xyc0> Or you could recite a lymric
[01:36] <JovenComunista> you neither
[01:36] <JovenComunista> :P
[01:36] <JovenComunista> XD
[01:36] <xoz> the next dream is to have pc that can switch from windows to mac to linux anytime without reboot
[01:37] <miracleblue> nalioth: okie dokie, im installing the g-streamer-mad package and a bunch of other gstreamer stuff along with it
[01:37] <Tallia1[UbuntU] 2> hey guys, someone knows if is there a configuration file for psnup?
[01:37] <nalioth> miracleblue: are you on a PPC machine now, by chance?
[01:37] <Xyc0> How do you change the splash screen in gnome, im too used to KDE
[01:37] <nalioth> xoz wait a couple years
[01:37] <Razor-X> Xyc0: limeric?
[01:37] <miracleblue> nalioth: no.  if i was, it would be my powerbook, and it wouldnt be running linux
[01:38] <Xyc0> Razor-X: limerick
[01:38] <nickrud> Tallia1[UbuntU] 2 a quick way to get a list of a packages conf files is dpkg -L | grep ^/etc
[01:38] <Razor-X> ahhh, my bad ;)
[01:39] <geetergod> can someone help me install new soundcard?
[01:39] <miracleblue> YES!!  its working!!!
[01:39] <Xyc0> There was a young girl called Denise ,
[01:39] <Xyc0> She lived all her life on the streets .
[01:39] <Xyc0> In need of a prayer .
[01:39] <Xyc0> Her pockets were bare .
[01:39] <Xyc0> She died in the arms of a priest .
[01:39] <miracleblue> nalioth: thank you very much ^_^ i cant live without my music
[01:39] <Xyc0> Thats a sad one pfft
[01:39] <hondje> good lymric
[01:39] <Xyc0> I can find better
[01:40] <geetergod> nalioth, can you help me too? :)
[01:40] <Razor-X> Haikus are better ;)
[01:40] <hondje> only to people who watch anime :p
[01:40] <Razor-X> geetergod: what kind of soundcard is it?
[01:40] <Xyc0> How do you change splash screens in Gnome?  I'm too used to KDE.
[01:40] <Razor-X> hondje: so what if I watch anime? I liked haikus before anime ;)
[01:40] <geetergod> Chaintech 7.1channel PCI
[01:41] <geetergod> i hear everything, just cant get my center and surround speakers workin
[01:41] <hondje> Razor-X: a hah! I was right! :D
[01:41] <Razor-X> geetergod: what is your soud daemon?
[01:41] <Razor-X> heheh ;)
[01:41] <Razor-X> was it my "FLCL kicks ass" that brought your attention to that?
[01:41] <Razor-X> *sound
[01:41] <geetergod> where do i go ot check?
[01:41] <nalioth> geetergod: i can only point u to the wiki
[01:41] <Xyc0> wow, i just found out that there is a Linus project called Xyc0
[01:41] <Razor-X> do you have Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[01:41] <Xyc0> Linux*
[01:41] <lurah> nn
[01:42] <IIIEars> is soud daemon an arab leader?
[01:42] <miracleblue> wow, the multiverse packages make life for a n00b linux user so much easier its not funny
[01:42] <geetergod> where to check the sound daemon that is
[01:42] <jono> hi all, can someone point me at a python pygtk applet for gnome? I want to write a panel applet and need some sample source
[01:42] <Razor-X> IIIEars: Arab names don't sound like that ;)
[01:42] <Razor-X> miracleblue: wait till you graduate n00b acaemy
[01:42] <drasko> hi all. I have problem -- nautilus applications:/// gives me "no valid location" message.
[01:42] <nalioth> miracleblue: stay away from 'backports'
[01:42] <FR500> miracleblue, you can download the tar.gzs with firefox if you want fun
[01:42] <Razor-X> geetergod: well, generally, Ubuntu uses ALSA/ESD, while Kubuntu uses ARTS/ALSA
[01:42] <eruin> drasko, thats normal
[01:42] <nalioth> miracleblue: they'll make your n00b life more diffecult
[01:43] <Razor-X> *academy
[01:43] <hondje> what about my n00b life
[01:43] <jriche> hey
[01:43] <eruin> drasko, since there's no such thing ;-)
[01:43] <Razor-X> hondje: you're a n00b?
[01:43] <jriche> this upgrading of pacakges
[01:43] <jriche> is fucking slow
[01:43] <jriche> are there any ubuntu package mirrors?
[01:43] <hondje> Razor-X: It's all relative, I guess
[01:43] <FR500> jriche, i'm dlding at 89kb/s
[01:43] <Razor-X> jriche: I get about 80 kb/s, myself
[01:43] <jriche> Razor-X, i get like 14
[01:43] <Razor-X> hondje: I know i'm not perfect, that's for sure
[01:43] <miracleblue> nalioth: thats how i was trying to do it before, it was so frustrating
[01:43] <jriche> Razor-X, i think its the general internet actaully
[01:43] <jriche> lemme see if i can fuck with it
[01:44] <Xyc0> United n00b Academy has a great environment for pwnage and w00t instruction.  Should you be interested in joining UNA, contact our 1337 campus locations.
[01:44] <Razor-X> jriche: then, you cn't do that much :\
[01:44] <Razor-X> what about prerequisities?
[01:44] <Razor-X> 4.0 in Windows usage
[01:44] <jriche> like
[01:44] <geetergod> Razor-x, i go to System, Pref. Multimedia System Selector...
[01:44] <jriche> pinging freenode.net
[01:44] <zukalk> jriche, i usually get 200+kb/s when i use apt-get
[01:44] <jriche> i get 52ms
[01:44] <Razor-X> 3.3 or better in patience
[01:44] <IIIEars> jriche - none too quick here either poor internet weather. - new windows worm?
[01:44] <geetergod> and set default Source to ALSA, and theres no sound
[01:44] <Razor-X> geetergod: mmmm, nevermind then, you use ESD
[01:44] <geetergod> but i set it to that in Default sink and test it and theres sound
[01:45] <geetergod> yes
[01:45] <geetergod> Failed to construct test pipeline for 'ESD - Enlightenment Sound Daemon
[01:45] <geetergod> thats what it says when i try ESD
[01:45] <Razor-X> hmmmmmmmmm...........
[01:45] <Razor-X> does Ubuntu use ARTs?
[01:46] <geetergod> ALSA makes a beeping sound when i test in Default Sink
[01:46] <Xyc0> Pre-reqs vary from campus to campus.  Should you be accepted to Gates is Satan Incarnate Hall, GSIH, be sure to be fluent in demonic speak from the 7th lvl of Hell.
[01:46] <Grumbly> nalioth: you here?
[01:46] <Razor-X> nalioth: seems you have a fan club ;)
[01:46] <hondje> because he's not a n00b like me
[01:46] <Razor-X> well, I help too -_-
[01:47] <Grumbly> I need some more help with my mac
[01:47] <Grumbly> any idea why it's not detecting my hardware?
[01:47] <hondje> heh, I provide genuine troll commentary.  None of that lame, blatant and unsophisticated drivel you encounter so much these days
[01:48] <Grumbly> my graphics card is agp not pci
[01:48] <IIIEars> hondje lol
[01:48] <Grumbly> and I am not familiar with macs enough to know how to set that
[01:48] <Grumbly> nor am I familiar enough with linux
[01:48] <jriche> my rage 128 kicks your 6800's ass
[01:48] <IIIEars> hondje the droll troll.
[01:49] <Grumbly> jriche: hmmm... ok
[01:49] <hondje> I am to trolling what /. is to bringing down a server :-)
[01:49] <Xyc0> How do you change the Splash Screen in Gnome?
[01:49] <Razor-X> geetergod: ahh, sorry, not sure what to do
[01:49] <jriche> lol
[01:49] <Razor-X> I can only say, browse the wikis, and grumble around the forums
[01:49] <Razor-X> Xyc0: ask the bleating gnome users ;)
[01:49] <Razor-X> a KDE user can'thelp you there
[01:49] <Xyc0> I could answer that question in KDE
[01:50] <geetergod> razor-x, k :(
[01:50] <nalioth> Grumbly: yes
[01:50] <Grumbly> hondje:  you mean to say hondje:trolling:: /.: killing servers
[01:50] <Razor-X> so could I, Xyc0
[01:50] <hondje> Grumbly: ah, that's much better
[01:50] <Grumbly> Razor-X: I have been
[01:50] <Grumbly> kinda stuck
[01:50] <geetergod> I assume i just plug the colored plugs into the same colors in the sound card right?
[01:50] <Xyc0> Trolling is only fun when you are making fun of another troll
[01:50] <Xyc0> Satisfaction in hypocracy
[01:50] <Razor-X> Grumbly: I meant that for geetergod ;)
[01:50] <pfp> Xyc0: http://art.gnome.org
[01:50] <nalioth> Grumbly: where we at?
[01:50] <hondje> No, the best trolling is when you get funding for it
[01:51] <jetscreamer> yes
[01:51] <hondje> For example, 'Dark energy' and 'dark matter'
[01:51] <Razor-X> i'm going to kick BitTorrent!
[01:51] <pfp> Xyc0: http://art.gnome.org/faq.php#q8
[01:51] <hondje> Total BS, but the guys who came up with it are rico suave now, thanks to mega buck from various foundations
[01:51] <Razor-X> if this wasn't a high-traffic channel, you'ld here some nice curse words come out of my e-throat ;)
[01:52] <Xyc0> thank you pfp, they obviously don't like to keep it simple
[01:52] <hondje> Razor-X: that's why you get your own chan, then you can be a maniac all you want :)
[01:52] <Johnny_> hey
[01:52] <pfp> btw, does anyone think that 440M mem usage (-4M shr) is normal for azureus?
[01:53] <hondje> I'd say that any app for a desktop user that is taking up 440M better be editing video
[01:53] <nalioth> pfp:  HOW many torrents you have running?
[01:53] <eruin> java...
[01:53] <hondje> can't blame java for coding _that_ bad
[01:53] <nalioth> pfp: no not normal
[01:53] <pfp> umm, somewhere between 8-12 torrs
[01:54] <eruin> java is to memory what I am to grolsch lager
[01:54] <pfp> well, it's _delivering_ video though :P
[01:54] <nalioth> Grumbly: how are we doing?
[01:54] <pfp> nalioth: that's what i figured. i think it started when i upgraded to hoary
[01:54] <hondje> mmmm, grolsch
[01:55] <nalioth> pfp: well, perhaps there is a newer bin of java available
[01:55] <pfp> hmm, what kind of beer is grolsch?
[01:55] <IIIEars> mm - pepsi and pound bags of cheetos - brain food.
[01:55] <hondje> pfp: dutch
[01:55] <Razor-X> pfp: Azureus just uses all my CPU, and cripples me
[01:55] <xoz> sun and microsoft have big investments to memory-manufacturer companies
[01:55] <nalioth> Razor-X: what specs on yer system?
[01:55] <_kevin> i have two computers One Ubuntu (This One) and one Windows Xp Home, they are both connect to through a router to a cable connection, Now My Question is I have some file on the linux that i would like to transfer over to the Windows Xp machine... How would i go about setting up this network... so i can send file fast
[01:56] <Razor-X> nalioth: 256 MB RAM, 1.6 ghz P4
[01:56] <Razor-X> it was working fine, until this new version update
[01:56] <bigbill52a> windows programs are getting so fat and slow
[01:56] <nalioth> Razor-X: need way more ram
[01:56] <Razor-X> nalioth: why did it suddenly start dying?
[01:56] <Razor-X> nalioth: and why doesen't any other BT client work?
[01:56] <IIIEars> Razor-X - 80mgs is ubuntu - there should be enough.
[01:56] <zukalk> _kevin : i think Samba should do the job. can't remember if i had do any configuring
[01:56] <pfp> weissbier is very nice... altough too expensive up here :/
[01:57] <Razor-X> _kevin: my suggestion is a tftp server
[01:57] <geetergod> Razor-x, well where would you go to add new hardware?
[01:57] <Grumbly> nalioth: help me please.  I dont know what kind of gfx card I've got.  Where do I look?  All I know is that it's an AGP card
[01:57] <_kevin> tftp would be slow since i would go through the internet, or will it be smart and go throught he home router directly and send file very fast?
[01:57] <nalioth> Grumbly: at the terminal type "lspci"
[01:57] <xoz> Grumbly: lspci
[01:58] <Razor-X> geetergod: hotplug should manage that for you, can't remember offhand the command to reconfigure sound
[01:58] <nalioth> Razor-X: have you updated your core java?
[01:58] <ngoehring> anyone here running icecast2?
[01:58] <geetergod> k
[01:58] <Razor-X> _kevin: as long as you specify a local IP, _all_ connections will go through locally
[01:58] <_kevin> ngoehring goto #icecast there you can get all the help
[01:58] <Razor-X> nalioth: less than a week ago
[01:58] <IIIEars>  - "$ sudo sysctl -w vm.swappiness=10 " and do _not_ do the permanent "vm.swappiness=10 to /etc/sysctl.conf", or a different command will do the same
[01:58] <_kevin> ok thanks Razor-X
[01:58] <ngoehring> _kevin, thanks man
[01:58] <geetergod> Just weird that i got a 7.1 card now yet it still wont play the center and surround speakers
[01:59] <pfp> nalioth, Razor-X what java re / sdk do you have?
[01:59] <Grumbly> ah
[01:59] <IIIEars> Razor-X ==Swappiness[01:59] <geetergod> and its a 5.1 speaker system
[01:59] <Razor-X> yeah, thanks IIIEars
[01:59] <nalioth> pfp: i do not run java on thie iBook
[01:59] <Razor-X> pfp: lemme see
[01:59] <zukalk> cya lads
[01:59] <hondje> why mess with swappiness? :)
[01:59] <Razor-X> 1.5.0_02
[02:00] <pfp> heh, mine's 1.5.0_01
[02:00] <Grumbly> isnt there some autoconfig script for X11?
[02:00] <Grumbly> I dont know most of the info I need for this reconfigure util
[02:00] <IIIEars> Razor-X larger numbers use the swap file default is 60
[02:00] <cusco> please take a minute of your time to read http://petition.eurolinux.org
[02:01] <Razor-X> IIIEars: okay, i'm hoping this'll help
[02:01] <drasko> eruin, how do you mean. I used to access applications menu via nautius...
[02:01] <_kevin> tftp is command line? or User interface? I prefer something with user Interface
[02:01] <cusco> http://petition.eurolinux.org/index_html
[02:01] <_kevin> GUI
[02:01] <Razor-X> still, I don't know if it's a flaw or not, only because it happened after the version update, and other BT clients are sucking
[02:01] <nalioth> sorry folks, but g2g2wrk
[02:01] <hondje> tftp is command line, _kevin
[02:01] <Razor-X> _kevin: commandline
[02:01] <_kevin> ahh i need a info file then to set it up
[02:02] <Razor-X> after the Azureus update, rather
[02:02] <Razor-X> _kevin: there's a man page on almost everything, tftpd included
[02:02] <hondje> heh, bzflag2 drops into hoary quite smoothly
[02:02] <Razor-X> make sure to apt-get it, though
[02:02] <_kevin> is there any alternative way withouth using the command line
[02:02] <_kevin> some mentioned Samba
[02:03] <Razor-X> _kevin: tftp tends to me nice and hassle free for me
[02:03] <Razor-X> and fast
[02:03] <Razor-X> hmmm, anyways, i'm off to shower, since BT isn't *(&*(& working!!!
[02:03] <_kevin> well I wanna see what i wanna download ont he windows machines from my linux machine
[02:03] <hondje> _kevin: any reason you can't use scp?
[02:04] <hondje> way easier
[02:04] <_kevin> i don't know i came here and asked
[02:04] <IIIEars> hondje scp?
[02:04] <_kevin> I'll state my initial question
[02:04] <_kevin> i have two computers One Ubuntu (This One) and one Windows Xp Home, they are both connect to through a router to a cable connection, Now My Question is I have some file on the linux that i would like to transfer over to the Windows Xp machine... How would i go about setting up this network... so i can send file fast
[02:04] <Xappe> winscp is free and quite nice
[02:04] <hondje> IIIEars: oh man, you're missing out.  Basically cp over network, part of the ssh tools
[02:04] <hondje> _kevin: the winscp
[02:04] <Maggot> I keep getting errors while trying to install xfonts-base during instalation
[02:05] <IIIEars> Hm - sounds nice - Eureka! got the link.
[02:05] <_kevin> honje bascially i wanna be able to access my home folder from my windows machine temporarily till i can just copy over some song ont eh windows machines which has a faster burner
[02:05] <HerdsmanMarengo> how do i setup root access in ubuntu
[02:05] <Maggot> Such as Buffer i/o error on decive HDA locigcal block #####
[02:05] <hondje> _kevin: all you have to do for that is sudo apt-get install ssh, download winscp, and read the commnads - way simple too
[02:05] <HerdsmanMarengo> it never game me the option to do it
[02:05] <Maggot> what can I try to get it to install?
[02:05] <Adross> has anyone had much success converting avi's and mpg's to ogg?
[02:05] <hondje> HerdsmanMarengo: no root by default in ubuntu
[02:06] <Xappe> hondje: that should be openssh-server
[02:06] <hondje> HerdsmanMarengo: use sudo instead
[02:06] <HerdsmanMarengo> sudo?
[02:06] <hondje> Xappe: whoops, yes indeedy :)
[02:06] <Adross> oh, and thoreauputic and Burgundavia thanks for all your help yesterday. I managed to fix it, but i couldn't of done it without you
[02:07] <hondje> HerdsmanMarengo: sudo 'command you'd run as root'
[02:07] <hondje> and all the GUI apps that want a passwd just want your user passwd
[02:07] <kimo> irda doesnt work on my laptop, though it works on suse! any ideas? (irda is loaded)
[02:07] <HerdsmanMarengo> ahh
[02:07] <pfp> Razor-X: (or anyone) what's your recommended choice for installing j2sdk?
[02:08] <drasko> I have problem -- nautilus applications:/// gives me "no valid location" message.
[02:08] <pfp> s/choice/way/
[02:08] <crimsun> download the tarball (not the rpm) and use make-jpkg
[02:08] <crimsun> then install the created deb
[02:09] <crimsun> make-jpkg exists in java-package
[02:09] <hondje> drasko: where should it open?
[02:09] <kimo> irda doesnt work on my laptop, though it works on suse! any ideas? (irda is loaded)
[02:09] <_kevin> hondje i download  winscp on the linux machine and install it but ./configure make and make install ?
[02:09] <ylbmurG> heh
[02:09] <ylbmurG> atleast it's online
[02:10] <hondje> _kevin: no, winscp on the windows machine :)
[02:10] <hondje> and the openssh server on ubuntu
[02:10] <pfp> crimsun: thx - any reason why i shouldn't use backports? (i can handle broken dependencies usually)
[02:10] <_kevin> ok then use it to connect to my linux machine
[02:10] <ylbmurG> sshd
[02:10] <crimsun> pfp: why would you want to use backports?
[02:10] <crimsun> what the
[02:10] <wulfepup> #My poor laptop  I tried install Ubuntu Hoary (AMD64) and all I get now is "OS Missing"
[02:11] <pfp> crimsun: lazy - would be a couple of commands less ;)
[02:11] <hondje> drasko: hrm, I see what it's supposed to do (I rtfm'd) .... doesn't work right here, either. I'd file a bug report
[02:12] <thoreauputic> hondje: no, that worked on warty, but not on hoary - he needs the menu editor (smeg)
[02:12] <thoreauputic> gnome issue...
[02:13] <hondje> file://///usr/share/gnome/help/user-guide/C/user-guide.xml#gosnautilus-TBL-479
[02:13] <hondje> that says that applications:/// and start-here:/// should work, and they don't
[02:13] <thoreauputic> hondje: indeed, but this is a known issue
[02:14] <hondje> thoreauputic: any reason half of them don't work?
[02:14] <thoreauputic> hondje: don't ask me :) I just know menu editing is broken in gnome 2.10
[02:14] <Maggot> I'm a little shocked by the lack of documentation related to actually installing ubuntu. The faq leaps right over it.
[02:15] <fazer> Hello, does anynone know of a good torrent client?
[02:15] <Xappe> fazer: azureus
[02:15] <pfp> i know a bad one ;/
[02:15] <kimo> fazer: yabc
[02:16] <fazer> azureus is a bad one.
[02:16] <thoreauputic> hondje: amaranh's menu editor >> http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/
[02:16] <fazer> although its awesome
[02:16] <fazer> its too resource hoggy
[02:16] <pfp> altough the perceived badness may not be azureus' fault
[02:16] <fazer> yabc, whats good about it?
[02:16] <hondje> thoreauputic: yeah, but those dont' have anything to do with menu editing
[02:16] <IcemanV9> azureus runs on java
[02:17] <thoreauputic> umm... yes they do : the applications:/// location was the place to put entries for the warty menu
[02:17] <JJasonJ20> I just installed Ubuntu 5.04 (AMD 64) and I think I have no root account. How can that be? I'm stupid.
[02:17] <briteside> hey guys
[02:17] <briteside> i'm trying to install php4 with apt-get
[02:17] <briteside> but it always gives me this error
[02:17] <briteside> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/krb5/libkrb53_1.3.6-1_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[02:17] <hondje> thoreauputic: okay, maybe that one was, but the rest weren't, I'm pretty sure
[02:17] <briteside> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[02:17] <Grumbly> JJasonJ20: its deactive by default
[02:17] <hondje> like preferences:///
[02:17] <Grumbly> quick fix is to sudo bash and type passwd
[02:18] <Grumbly> to = do
[02:18] <mjt> should this "i have no root" question be answered in /topic already? ;)
[02:18] <hondje> or themes:///
[02:18] <wulfepup> JJasonJ20 .. you are right .. no root account.  use sudo
[02:18] <JJasonJ20> OK, trying it. Just a sec
[02:18] <Grumbly> mjt: prolly... but people like their root...
[02:18] <Grumbly> wulfepup: let em' hurt their stuff
[02:18] <Grumbly> it's the easiest way to learn
[02:19] <thoreauputic> mjt: the bot had a factoid for it - but ubotu has a severe case of amnesia at the moment
[02:19] <Pithlit> root is there to be used :P
[02:19] <hondje> I have no problem with using root, but it bothers me that people who can't figure out how to set root up a passwd want it
[02:19] <mjt> i wasn't suggesting *how* to answer that question in /topic, but that *some* answer should be there by now ;)
[02:19] <cello> Hi. how about usage of LTSP on ubuntu... ? is that easy like install the package and conect or that is a bit complex ?
[02:19] <Grumbly> Pithlit: add yourself to wheel
[02:20] <Grumbly> that'll work for most
[02:20] <briteside> sudo passwd root
[02:20] <BockBilbo> hey again
[02:20] <Pithlit> Grumbly: I'm not complaining
[02:20] <Grumbly> hondje: it's not about problems using root for most people, it's about other people not having problems getting in.
[02:20] <Pithlit> and... I don't use ubuntu so nyah :P
[02:21] <hondje> Are you suggesting that sudo increases your vulnerability?
[02:21] <eruin> haha
[02:21] <_kevin> hondje, now that i have ssh and winscp ont he window machine
[02:21] <_kevin> i need the loging info
[02:21] <_kevin> how do i find that info out
[02:21] <BockBilbo> i have a question related to samb: Im using samba to share some directories from a ubuntu machine in gest mode so no password is required
[02:21] <BockBilbo> the problem i have is that from windows, for example, when doing any modifications in the folders files (such as delete, rename or move) the modifications are not visualized unless i refresh the window. I would like to know if that's a problem of my samba configuration, and if it is, how can i fix it? is there any refresh option?
[02:21] <_kevin> and set it up
[02:21] <IIIEars> Separate DVD and CD recorders - Tips to speed up the DVD recorder? - (scratches head)
[02:21] <JJasonJ20> hondje, yeah, you are right. But I've been using Linux for only ten days. I need to configure stuff that requires a root password. Like options in Firefox.
[02:22] <LinuxJones> cello, atm I think it's still a work in progress but it is one of the projects that will get some well desserved attention in the near future :)
[02:22] <hondje> what options in FF want root passwd? I never saw that
[02:22] <_kevin> any one wants to help me set up winscp?
[02:22] <Pithlit> firefox needs root?
[02:22] <JJasonJ20> And this is my computer, behind a router and a firewall and I live alone.
[02:22] <Pithlit> what the hell for?
[02:22] <_kevin> it shouldn't
[02:22] <hondje> _kevin: I haven't ever used winscp, just know everyone likes it :)
[02:22] <_kevin> damn
[02:22] <_kevin> any winscp user
[02:23] <hondje> Only app I know offhand that NEEDS root is ethereal
[02:23] <_kevin> it need login info for the ssh server
[02:23] <JJasonJ20> Well, I clicked on Edit > Options and got "root.disabled = "true"
[02:23] <Pithlit> JJasonJ20: if you really need FF as root you can start it with sudo
[02:23] <LinuxJones> cello, here's a sort of dated howto from the wiki >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/LTSPHowTo
[02:23] <xoz> _kevin: just enable sshd... /etc/init.d/ssh start
[02:24] <stuNNed> LinuxJones:would be nice if LTSP used ubuntu by default instead of Fedora ;)
[02:24] <IIIEars> Eww - FF as root with java and flash enabled. (pops two anti-acids)
[02:24] <stuNNed> LOL IIIEars
[02:24] <LinuxJones> cello, by all means give it a go :)
[02:25] <LinuxJones> stuNNed, it's one of the best oss projects for schools and organizations with limited resources :)
[02:25] <LinuxJones> cello, :D
[02:25] <JJasonJ20> OK, that worked. Now I can get Preferences.
[02:26] <thoreauputic> JJasonJ20: I don't know what you are doing - but Prefs in Firefox don't require root :/
[02:26] <Pithlit> btw... how do I add sshd (or any other service) to a runlevel in ubuntu?
[02:26] <stuNNed> LinuxJones: yes and quite easy to set up once get the network boot sorted :)
[02:26] <Nazyr> Anyone here have any experience with NFORCE 4 chipset isntall? getting kernel panic after bootup
[02:26] <IIIEars> CD ripping @ 2.8x to FLAC - Whats the hold up?
[02:27] <stuNNed> IIIEars: me too i have same prob
[02:27] <eruin> dma,dma,dma
[02:27] <stuNNed> oh
[02:27] <stuNNed> thnx eruin
[02:27] <xoz> Pithlit: you can do a symbolic link from /etc/rc.d
[02:27] <hondje> Pithlit: lots of ways...one is to install sysv-rc-conf and use that, another is to use 'BUM', or my way is to symlink from /etc/rcN.d
[02:27] <stuNNed> eruin: is there gui for enabling dma on cdrom?
[02:27] <eruin> I need special via modules loaded _before_ the ide-* ones to make dma work for me
[02:28] <eruin> grr
[02:28] <eruin> no, sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdx
[02:28] <xoz> Pithlit: to rc<n>.d
[02:28] <JJasonJ20> I couldn't get into Preferences with my regular account until I launched it as root. Then Prefs worked fine
[02:28] <Pithlit> thanks
[02:28] <IIIEars> Thank You! - (eruin wins an OEM XP disk. - everyone could use a coaster right?)
[02:28] <thoreauputic> JJasonJ20: something is wrong then
[02:28] <IIIEars> lol
[02:29] <JJasonJ20> Yeah, what's wrong is a total n00b trying to learn Linux on his own :(
[02:29] <eruin> how rude!
[02:29] <Nazyr> lol atleast XP runs on my system .. I have yet to get Ubuntu to run correctly
[02:29] <JJasonJ20> But Ubuntu rox
[02:29] <CrustyPunk> hey, I'm having some slight, rather irritating issues.
[02:29] <stuNNed> JJasonJ20: total n00b should RTFM and RTFM and RTFM once again. :)
[02:29] <thoreauputic> JJasonJ20: we've all been there - you'll get it gradually
[02:29] <hondje> JJasonJ20: nothing, but you have a societal obligation to not do stuff that might cause us badness
[02:30] <jind> Gnome sound is broken
[02:30] <kvidell> rtfm - regarding the full manual ;)
[02:30] <wulfepup> There's an FM??  *g*  naaaaaaaahhhhh!
[02:30] <hondje> Getting rooted inconveniences everyone
[02:30] <IIIEars> Nazyr - What can the room help you with?
[02:30] <stuNNed> kvidell: yes
[02:30] <Nazyr> RTFM doesnt always work
[02:30] <stuNNed> Nazyr: if you can't read, yep.
[02:30] <_kevin> is there a FTP server program for linux with a Nice and easy g.u.i interface
[02:30] <JJasonJ20> RTFM works great, once you *find* the M.
[02:30] <thoreauputic> Nazyr: not unless you implement what you read, no ;)
[02:30] <CrustyPunk> Alsa-base is broken, and trying to uninstall it (or installing anything else for that matter) tells me I need to uninstall GDM, ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop
[02:30] <IIIEars> kvidell - RTFM - is handy and the first recommendation in #debian
[02:31] <Pithlit> JJasonJ20: $ man whatever
[02:31] <Pithlit> easy to find them
[02:31] <Pithlit> :P
[02:31] <kvidell> man -k search term
[02:31] <hondje> sometimes the documentation is over a newbies head, or useless for anyone
[02:31] <kvidell> also useful
[02:31] <hondje> asking is good, too
[02:31] <IIIEars> Nazyr - What is the stopping point?
[02:31] <JJasonJ20> hondje, you can say that again.
[02:31] <Nazyr> OK wheres the TFM for how to fix a Kernel Panic Error on a fresh install on a NFORCE4 based motherboard? would love to know .. because after two days of looking I cant seem to find one
[02:31] <eruin> FMs are far from as useful as learning by experience/example
[02:31] <thoreauputic> hondje: only sometimes ? *grin*
[02:31] <hondje> I'm just saying, the obsession with root is disturbing
[02:32] <kvidell> yea, I only use manuals with software I already know how to use and just need a reminder
[02:32] <kvidell> like I can for the life of me NEVER remember which order to put arguments for ln -s
[02:32] <JJasonJ20> But every journey begins with a single step. I'll just keep plugging away.
[02:32] <eruin> kvidell, hahah, me too
[02:32] <CrustyPunk> Alsa-base is broken, and trying to uninstall it (or installing anything else for that matter) tells me I need to uninstall GDM, ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop. Is it safe to do so, and then apt-get install gdm ubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-base?
[02:32] <wulfepup> frequently just "foo --help" is all you need with a specific command (though "man foo" is generally much more informative.)
[02:32] <Nazyr> IIIEars: I get a kernel panic - not syncing error about 60 seconds after machine boots
[02:32] <hondje> sometimes you need the man page
[02:32] <LinuxJones> CrustyPunk,  your running Hoary ?
[02:33] <CrustyPunk> LinuxJones: Yeah
[02:33] <eruin> "uname --help" is an example of --help done right.
[02:33] <CrustyPunk> LinuxJones: Er... if Hoary is 5.04. I can't keep Hoary and Warty straight
[02:33] <IIIEars> Nazyr - Did you spot the module/app loaded at boot that might cause it?
[02:34] <eruin> Nazyr, try booting in rescue mode for more useful output
[02:34] <sounix> como instyalar ubuntu desde disketes
[02:34] <Nazyr> IIIEars: nope everything boots fine
[02:34] <LinuxJones> CrustyPunk,  sudo -s (enter ur password) then apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[02:34] <CrustyPunk> LinuxJones: Doing so
[02:34] <IIIEars> there is a boot log. Where you able to see it?
[02:34] <LinuxJones> CrustyPunk, you can always cat /etc/issue to be sure what your running :)
[02:34] <stuNNed> Nazyr: self compiled kernel or stock?
[02:35] <Nazyr> stuNNed: Stock
[02:35] <Nazyr> stuNNed: this is a brand new clean install
[02:35] <IIIEars> the live CD will help if you have one. if not any live cd will let you peek.
[02:35] <CrustyPunk> LinuxJones: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[02:35] <CrustyPunk>   alsa-base: Depends: alsa-utils (>= 1.0.8-2) but 1.0.8-1ubuntu1 is installed
[02:35] <CrustyPunk> E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
[02:35] <pfp> CrustyPunk: apt-get -f install  <- might help
[02:36] <LinuxJones> CrustyPunk, cat /etc/issue and tell me what you have
[02:36] <Amaranth> CrustyPunk: do you have any third party repositories (non-Ubuntu)
[02:36] <Amaranth> CrustyPunk: like backports or marillat
[02:36] <Nazyr> IIIEars: LiveCD doesnt work .. doesnt recognize my mouse or keyboard
[02:36] <CrustyPunk> pfp: That's what I did before I even came here. It told me I'd have to uninstall ubuntu-base, ubuntu-desktop and gdm
[02:36] <CrustyPunk> Amaranth: I don't believe so. I got my repository list from ubuntuguide
[02:37] <Amaranth> ack
[02:37] <IIIEars> Nazyr - What are your system specifications?
[02:37] <CrustyPunk> LinuxJones: Hoary
[02:37] <Amaranth> you got backports and/or marillat then
[02:37] <pfp> CrustyPunk: ok, something has messed up your dependencies then, prolly those 3rd party reps Amaranth mentioned
[02:37] <CrustyPunk> Amaranth: ...Is that bad?
[02:37] <Amaranth> CrustyPunk: it's what is causing this problem, so yeah
[02:37] <IIIEars> pastebin.com will help if a long list will flood the channel
[02:38] <pfp> CrustyPunk: i'd comment them out, then -f  etc
[02:38] <IIIEars> paste or /msg
[02:38] <CrustyPunk> pfp: I'll try that.
[02:38] <we2by> what program can I use for rss feeds?
[02:38] <we2by> I have it installed, but can not remember the name
[02:38] <stuNNed> Nazyr: where does it oops?
[02:38] <pfp> we2by: apt-cache search rss
[02:39] <Amaranth> CrustyPunk: http://rafb.net/paste/results/AMdBMc27.html
[02:39] <hondje> alright, my very own bzflag2 .deb
[02:39] <Amaranth> CrustyPunk: your sources.list should look like that
[02:39] <Xyc0> meh, logging into freenode takes forever
[02:39] <IIIEars> oops is the friendly terminology - grin
[02:39] <miracleblue> morning everyone ^_^
[02:39] <Amaranth> we2by: blam, liferea, or straw
[02:39] <miracleblue> xmms hates me, and so does beep.  sadly.  oh well.
[02:39] <Amaranth> miracleblue: get gstreamer-mad and use rhythmbox or muine
[02:40] <bobthegoat> Question: I have samba server running and can see my linux box from windows machine, but when I try to open it it asks me to log in but won't accept my login and keeps adding the windows machines name infront of my user name.
[02:40] <Nazyr> IIIEars: AMD64 3800+ Gigabyte GA-K8N Ultra-9 Motherboard 2 gig of ram ATI X800XL Graphics card installing to a 80gig ATA HD instead of SATA at this point
[02:40] <bobthegoat> any ideas?
[02:40] <CrustyPunk> Amaranth: Should I erase my sources.list and replace it with that?
[02:40] <Amaranth> bobthegoat: you need to login with the windows machine's username and password
[02:40] <Amaranth> CrustyPunk: yeah
[02:40] <lonewolff> bobthegoat: have you set your users samba password?
[02:40] <Nazyr> stuNNed: it just does it .. even if I dont log in .. it will just panic and lock
[02:40] <eruin> 64bits and ati. You're asking for trouble</rant>
[02:40] <JJasonJ20> Thanks for the help dudes. Exam week is over and its PARTY TIME!!
[02:40] <hondje> The future of IT has just left the room :)
[02:40] <IIIEars> Nazyr - (Drool) Nice rig.
[02:41] <pfp> bobthegoat: samba keeps a saeparate password file, you can/need to set pw w/  smbpasswd
[02:41] <bobthegoat> Amaranth,  I just tried my windows user name it didn't work
[02:41] <stuNNed> Nazyr: might try antiquated 'noapic' or acpi=off or soemthing from grub?
[02:41] <CrustyPunk> Amaranth: Done. What should I do next? I'm updating the list now.
[02:41] <eruin> JJasonJ20 got it all wrong. you should party *in* exam-week
[02:41] <miracleblue> amaranth: i have gstreamer-mad, and rhythmbox has slow response times
[02:41] <Nazyr> IIIEars: lol will be if I can get something other than WinXP installed
[02:41] <bobthegoat> pfp ok I will try that.
[02:41] <Amaranth> CrustyPunk: after you run sudo apt-get update you should be set
[02:42] <IIIEars> Nazyr - a boot log would be golden. - not sure it's possible with the live CD. - :/
[02:42] <CrustyPunk> Amaranth:  And then do apt-get -f install or whatever the command is?
[02:42] <wulfepup> during installation.... I know the [skull]  is for format... what is the lightning bolt?
[02:42] <Amaranth> CrustyPunk: yeah
[02:42] <pfp> bobthegoat: in windows, you should probably use same username+pass as you do on you ubu box
[02:42] <Nazyr> stuNNed: ok brb see if that helps
[02:42] <miracleblue> amaranth: so i tried to see if xmms would be a little quicker, but it just locks up whenever i try to play an mp3 file.  kinda sad, oh well
[02:42] <Nazyr> IIIEars: Ill see if I can get it .. brb
[02:42] <Amaranth> miracleblue: you need to tell xmms to use alsa or oss
[02:42] <Amaranth> miracleblue: it's a preference
[02:42] <CrustyPunk> wulfepup: Lightning bold is for bootable, I believe
[02:42] <wulfepup> col
[02:43] <miracleblue> Amaranth: oh, okie dokie, ill try that
[02:43] <wulfepup> err cool
[02:43] <wulfepup> thx
[02:43] <bobthegoat> Where is the smb password file? I am searching smb.conf it just talks about encryption
[02:43] <hou5ton> a friend once had an Xchat notification thingie that would allow one to be on a different virtual desktop and know when a message to them was delivered.  I haven't found such a thing for Ubuntu.  Any help?
[02:43] <Amaranth> hou5ton: the xchat system tray icon?
[02:43] <CarlFK> duh - how do I reset my password in hoary?
[02:44] <hou5ton> Amaranth:  ya ... that was it
[02:44] <bobthegoat> Hum Samba seems to work if I turn off user lvl security, I guess I'll just do that.
[02:44] <pfp> bobthegoat: by default /etc/samba/smbpasswd but hmm, you may need to create it with something like 'mksmbpasswd < /etc/passwd > /etc/samba/smbpasswd'
[02:44] <EvanCarroll> hou5ton: You live in houston texas?
[02:44] <miracleblue> Amaranth: It was using OSS, so i switched it to ALSA
[02:44] <miracleblue> Amaranth: I'll give it another try
[02:44] <hou5ton> EvanCarroll:  nah ... central Missouri
[02:44] <bobthegoat> pfp ok I'll try that.
[02:44] <EvanCarroll> =/
[02:44] <pfp> bobthegoat: after that, use 'sudo smbpasswd yourusername' to set the pw
[02:45] <hou5ton> EvanCarroll:  doesn't make sense ... I know
[02:45] <Amaranth> hou5ton: http://edit.peoplesdns.com/index.php?show=52
[02:45] <wulfepup> hou5ton you should be able to get Xchat .. therefore .. ditto the sys tray icon?
[02:45] <Luakagon> I wish to restart my sound server withoug logging in and out, how do I do that please?
[02:45] <pfp> or maybe there's an easier way, that's what i've used for the last 5 years...
[02:45] <miracleblue> Amaranth: It works using the eSound one ^_^
[02:45] <Amaranth> miracleblue: ah, that was it
[02:45] <hondje> Luakagon: try killall -1 esd
[02:45] <Amaranth> miracleblue: i was thinking you needed to take it off the esd one
[02:46] <kimo> where do I find old libstdc++ ?
[02:46] <CrustyPunk> Amaranth: It's still tleling me that GDM, Ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop will be uninstalled
[02:46] <Luakagon> how do I list those processes to make sure that I dont crash my computer first?
[02:46] <IIIEars> Amaranth - Do you run 64bit?
[02:46] <hou5ton> wulfepup:  one would think, but I've never found it listed in Synaptic
[02:46] <Amaranth> IIIEars: nope
[02:46] <pfp> Luakagon: if you use gnoem, 'ps auxw|grep esd'
[02:46] <bobthegoat> pfp when I try that line you suggested all I get is permission denied. I tried it as root with sudo also
[02:46] <wulfepup> hou5ton: try using aptitude?
[02:47] <Luakagon> thank you pfp
[02:47] <CrustyPunk> Amaranth: When I apt-get -f install it still tells me that GDM, Ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop will be uninstalled
[02:47] <miracleblue> Amaranth: Yeah, OSS is the one freezing up.  Thanks for helping, otherwise I wouldntve tried changing that option
[02:47] <pfp> bobthegoat: h, sudo can't see the < > redirections, so 'sudo sh -c "thecommand"'
[02:47] <hou5ton> wulfepup:  no ... but I see it in Synaptic.  Is it an Xchat notification plugin?
[02:47] <wulfepup> sounds like it?
[02:48] <PhantomFreak> Does anyone know a good program for calculating the speed the CPU is running at!
[02:48] <wulfepup> never used XChat myself .. I'm a newly annoited *nix n00b with a strong passion for some of my old Win proggies.. like mIRC
[02:48] <Amaranth> aptitude is just like synaptic, but for a terminal
[02:48] <Luakagon> That didn't work...
[02:49] <Amaranth> it's not an xchat systray icon
[02:49] <bobthegoat> ok I just tried that pfp , and it still get permission denied  "bash: /etc/samba/smbpasswd: Permission denied"
[02:49] <_kevin> i try to run Pure-FtpD and it gives me and error saying Unable to start a standalone server: Address already in use, what does this mean, and this the first time I'm running it and it give me this error
[02:49] <Luakagon> I still need help closing my sound server
[02:49] <Amaranth> hou5ton: I gave you the code for the tray icon, you just need to figure out where to save that file
[02:49] <CrustyPunk> Amaranth: When I apt-get -f install it still tells me that GDM, Ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop will be uninstalled
[02:49] <hou5ton> Amaranth:  ya ... i see that ...
[02:49] <Amaranth> CrustyPunk: err
[02:50] <pfp> Luakagon: did you find the PID? (number in 2nd column)
[02:50] <Luakagon> I just did killall and it killed all
[02:50] <Amaranth> hou5ton: You just need to save the file in a special place, I can't remember where.
[02:50] <Luakagon> nevermind...
[02:50] <jugarnatha> hi all: i'm trying to get my codecs in place for totem. I've downloaded them and extracted them twice, but I can't figure out where they're located or what to do with them. they're on this console somewhere
[02:51] <PhantomFreak> I've tried a few things like CPUID but they usually show the full processor speed!
[02:51] <jugarnatha> can anyone help?
[02:51] <CrustyPunk> Amaranth: Would it be a bad idea to let it do it's thing and then apt-get ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop gdm?
[02:51] <Luakagon> hmm, there we go :) success!
[02:51] <PhantomFreak> I need the current speed!
[02:51] <Amaranth> CrustyPunk: probably
[02:51] <Amaranth> CrustyPunk: this is why you don't use 3rd party repositories.
[02:51] <Amaranth> CrustyPunk: what package is it you're trying to install?
[02:52] <CrustyPunk> Amaranth: Right now, I'm more concerned about getting alsa fixed or uninstalled without killing my system
[02:52] <CrustyPunk> Amaranth: But I'm trying to install Vavoom
[02:52] <HerdsmanMarengo> does ubuntu come with a preinstalled c compiler?
[02:52] <pfp> PhantomFreak: there's an applet for gnome that does this i think
[02:52] <IIIEars> 64bit Does anyone use a 64bit processor?
[02:52] <Amaranth> CrustyPunk: I mean what package is trying to install itself and remove gdm and such
[02:52] <Luakagon> lots of love to all you crazy cats keep kool peace owt!
[02:53] <Amaranth> HerdsmanMarengo: no, you need to install the build-essential package
[02:53] <jugarnatha> later Luak*
[02:53] <wulfepup> IIIEars: I am .. but I can't get it to install yet
[02:53] <CrustyPunk> Amaranth: None; when I tell Synaptic to remove alsa-base it tries to remove gdm and all that
[02:53] <Amaranth> CrustyPunk: why are you removing alsa-base?!?!?
[02:53] <CrustyPunk> Amaranth: Err, not remove, sorry
[02:53] <CrustyPunk> Amaranth: Reinstall
[02:53] <CrustyPunk> Amaranth: It's "broken" for one reason or another
[02:54] <hondje> CrustyPunk: try apt-get --reinstall alsa-base?
[02:54] <wulfepup> ahhhhhhh
[02:54] <Amaranth> CrustyPunk: ok, open up a terminal and run sudo apt-get install alsa-base/hoary
[02:54] <jugarnatha> hi all: i'm trying to get my codecs in place for totem. I've downloaded them and extracted them twice, but I can't figure out where they're located or what to do with them. they're on this console somewhere
[02:54] <IIIEars> wulfepup - sadly you aren't alone - looking for help Nazyr's system shows the desk for about 30 seconds with the mouse and keyboard locked up. - What are you seeing?
[02:54] <Amaranth> jugarnatha: you mean w32codecs?
[02:55] <CrustyPunk> Amaranth: I'm doing that. It's downgrading what I have, but I've a feeling it will fix it.
[02:55] <jugarnatha> um, I downloaded them from a site . . . they should all be windows movie player codecs, I guess. I could give you the site name if that would help
[02:55] <Amaranth> CrustyPunk: it will
[02:55] <wulfepup> "Operating System Missing"
[02:55] <Amaranth> CrustyPunk: it's going back to the hoary version
[02:55] <blastmanu> hi
[02:55] <Amaranth> CrustyPunk: one of your third party repositories (probably backports) thought it was a good idea to try to give you a new alsa
[02:56] <wulfepup> but it seems to be working now...  I got Grub...and went to XP to make sure that worked...
[02:56] <IIIEars> wulfepup - okay - sounds like a disk error in the master boot record. - Do you think so?
[02:56] <wulfepup> Now I'm rebooting to see if teh rest of teh install takes...
[02:56] <CrustyPunk> Amaranth: Thanks
[02:56] <Stargazer> Hi.. I'm running 5.04 PPC - I just installed gstreamer- ffmpeg for totem.. I go to watch a divx and totem loads up, and about 20 secs after exits.  What more do I need to do for totem to view divx's?
[02:56] <CarlFK> IIIEars - more likely mis configured
[02:56] <blastmanu> I will speack english :)
[02:56] <IIIEars> wulfepup - do you think the grub pointer is looking for a different 32 bit kernel?
[02:56] <Amaranth> Stargazer: install totem-xine
[02:57] <CrustyPunk> Amaranth: Now to get back to installing Vavoom =P
[02:57] <IIIEars> CarlFK - What do you think it is?
[02:57] <wulfepup> I was trying to maintain my XP mbr .. and have grub on the (hd0,1)  but that did not work for me....
[02:58] <jugarnatha> www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingCodecsToTotemHowTo - 18k <-- that's where I was directed to get the codecs
[02:58] <wulfepup> I stuck it on MBR and it seems to be working now...  I'm maybe be a quick study, but I'm still a n00b .....especially trouble shooting.
[02:58] <IIIEars> wulfepup - been juggling primary and secondary hard drive using the bios. - not elegant by any means.
[02:58] <hondje> jugarnatha: what did you do with the tarball you downloaded from mplayer's site?
[02:58] <jugarnatha> http://www4.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/codecs.html <-- and this is the location
[02:58] <Knud> anyone ever got this problem(while starting on virtual pc): kernel panic : attempted to kill idle process
[02:58] <bobthegoat> Question: when I try to run smbpasswd I get ' Error was : Account disabled.' any ideas on what i do?
[02:59] <CarlFK> IIIEars -I missed your history: I am guessing you have both Ubuntu and Win XP installed?
[02:59] <IIIEars> lol - okay - i'm lazy- there i said it!
[02:59] <jugarnatha> hondje: well, I'm not sure what a tarball is. i let /usr/bin/file-roller opoen them
[02:59] <hondje> oh
[02:59] <IIIEars> CarlFK - yes
[02:59] <jugarnatha> hondje: was that a mistake?
[02:59] <CarlFK> IIIEars - which did you install first?
[02:59] <hondje> jugarnatha: I dunno, never used it
[02:59] <jugarnatha> what would you do with them if you were to save them to disk, hondje
[02:59] <wulfepup> IIIEars: well, my install is continuing....
[02:59] <pfp> bobthegoat: could you do a 'grep yourusername /etc/samba/smbpasswd' and paste it here
[03:00] <bobthegoat> k
[03:00] <wulfepup> I'll let you know what hap[pens next .. LOL
[03:00] <IIIEars> CarlFK windows primary then biosed the second drive to primary. - see i told you i was lazy.
[03:00] <jugarnatha> hondje: what would you do with them if you were to save them to disk, hondje
[03:00] <hondje> jugarnatha: well, I'd open up a terminal first
[03:00] <CrustyPunk> Blar.
[03:00] <Stargazer> Being new to ubuntu, where can I find a gui utility to change video card colour depth? I've searched high and low through all system preferences in gnome
[03:01] <bobthegoat> pf it says : grep: /etc/samba/smbpasswd: No such file or directory' but I thought I created that with that step above...
[03:01] <Knud> anyone ever got this problem(while starting on virtual pc): kernel panic : attempted to kill idle process
[03:01] <CarlFK> IIIEars - Ok, you need to put the win drive back or it will be cranky. but then grub won't be there...
[03:01] <IcemanV9> Stargazer: it is in the little file called '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' :)
[03:01] <Stargazer> Also, any idea how to get the volume to stay where it is?  Everytime I reboot the volume control on the menu bar is muted.
[03:01] <pfp> bobthegoat: it seems you created it somewhere else...
[03:01] <PhantomFreak> What is the Govener in CPUfreq settings
[03:01] <CrustyPunk> Now I'm having trouble compiling Vavoom, probably mu own n00bery: I get the message gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1plus': No such file or directory when I run make
[03:02] <bobthegoat> this is what I did pfp 'sudo sh -c mksmbpasswd < /etc/passwd > /etc/samba/smbpasswd'
[03:02] <CarlFK> IIIEars - in keeping with the lazy theam: put the win drive back, get that working - maybe even reisntall XP.  then leave the drives alone and isntall Ubunto - it will work around XP and even include it in the boot config
[03:02] <IIIEars> np - windows is for doom 3 - ubuntu is for everything else. grin
[03:02] <Xyc0> CrustyPunk: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:02] <bobthegoat> when I try it now
[03:02] <bobthegoat> it says 'bash: /etc/samba/smbpasswd: Permission denied'
[03:02] <LinuxJones> CrustyPunk, apt-get install build-essential
[03:02] <CrustyPunk> Xyc0: Thanks
[03:02] <pfp> bobthegoat: oh, you need some "quotes there
[03:03] <CarlFK> IIIEars - flipping drives around was actualy more work, so the lazy thing doesn't really hold up ;)
[03:03] <bobthegoat> oh
[03:03] <wulfepup> IIIEars: that sounds like what I ended up doing ....
[03:03] <Xyc0> CrustyPunk: install and try to compile again
[03:03] <pfp> bobthegoat: sudo sh -c "mksmbpasswd < /etc/passwd > /etc/samba/smbpasswd"
[03:03] <CrustyPunk> Xyc0: Am doing. thanks again.
[03:03] <wulfepup> CarlFK: the excuses of teh lazy almost always are actually more work.. I should know.. I'm one of the lazy ones too.
[03:03] <bobthegoat> that worked
[03:03] <bobthegoat> ok
[03:04] <bobthegoat> now I will try the smbpasswd thing. thanks for pointing that out.
[03:04] <pfp> bobthegoat: great
[03:04] <IIIEars> CarlFK - using the bios is fine to substitute for grub is fine for now.
[03:04] <CrustyPunk> Whee
[03:04] <CrustyPunk> Xyc0: is this an error with the source, or am I missing something else? "make: *** [obj/d_alleg.o]  Error 1"
[03:04] <CarlFK> IIIEars - but is XP working?
[03:05] <bobthegoat> ok
[03:05] <bobthegoat> I have the file now
[03:05] <bobthegoat> and I also ran smbpasswd
[03:05] <IIIEars> Yes - on the second originally primary drive
[03:05] <Xyc0> CrustyPunk: be a bit more specific, did you install the build essential?
[03:05] <wulfepup> If I have a whole shload of windows TTF files.. will I be able to load them?  ((I'm guessing not, but I have to ask))
[03:05] <bobthegoat> but it still just sits there when I try to login on windows to the linux box. and adds my windows box's name to the front of my user.
[03:05] <CrustyPunk> Xyc0: Yeah, I did
[03:05] <Xyc0> CrustyPunk: what is the error you get now?
[03:05] <thoreauputic> wulfepup: ttf fonts?
[03:06] <Knud> anyone ever got this problem or know a sollution(i got it while starting on virtual pc): kernel panic : attempted to kill idle process
[03:06] <CarlFK> IIIEars - wild - I would have figured it would get upset that what was C: isnt anymore, but maybe the lack of MS file system lets that work
[03:06] <CrustyPunk> Xyc0: What I just pasted: make: *** [obj/d_alleg.o]  Error 1
[03:06] <wulfepup> thoreauputic: yup .. I use them in my graphic design work.
[03:06] <IIIEars> wulfpup - mttcorefonts is what some use guessing you need more fonts?
[03:06] <thoreauputic> wulfepup: you can just dump them in ~/.fonts
[03:06] <Xyc0> CrustyPunk: What are you installing again?
[03:06] <LinuxJones> wulfepup, >>http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FontInstallHowto
[03:06] <Amaranth> CrustyPunk: the real error is above that
[03:06] <CrustyPunk> Xyc0: Err, I take that back. I have a LOT of errors. Almost every line
[03:06] <thoreauputic> wulfepup: note the "dot"
[03:07] <Amaranth> CrustyPunk: what is the _first_ error?
[03:07] <wulfepup> thoreauputic: phat!  Will do
[03:07] <pfp> bobthegoat: hmm
[03:07] <bobthegoat> when I try my user
[03:07] <Davey> Why can't I edit my MP3s ID3 tags in "Media Player" (Rythmbox)
[03:07] <wulfepup> LinuxJones: Thanks!
[03:07] <ukato> does GAIM file sharing work for anybody?
[03:07] <thoreauputic> wulfepup: you might want to read the URL LinuxJones posted as well though
[03:07] <CrustyPunk> Amaranth: I'm going to pastebin it all
[03:07] <pfp> bobthegoat: do you use the exact same username on the windows and ubuntu boxen
[03:07] <bobthegoat> yes
[03:07] <geetergod> Can anyone help me to get my speakers/sound card working right?
[03:07] <Davey> at first, I thought it was cause my MP3s where on a ro file system (NTFS), but even now, I can't edit stuff I own on my linux partition
[03:07] <Xyc0> Davey: sudo apt-get install easytag
[03:08] <wulfepup> ukato: haven't tried yet ...
[03:08] <bobthegoat> the windows one has no password.
[03:08] <bobthegoat> that is the only difference
[03:08] <bobthegoat> pfp
[03:08] <CrustyPunk> Amaranth and Xyc0: http://pastebin.com/298706
[03:08] <wulfepup> oh S.O.B.!!!  I didn't realize it would be dl'ing before teh install was complete! this bytes!!!!  I don't have time....
[03:08] <geetergod> what room would i go to for soundcard/speakers help?
[03:09] <nemik> hi guys i'm having trouble apt-getting curl
[03:09] <pfp> bobthegoat: hmm, try setting the same password on your windows machine. windows _should_ ask for a password when you try to connect, though
[03:09] <bobthegoat> pfp it does ask for it. I will try setting the password
[03:09] <wulfepup> razzin' fraggin' dial-up
[03:09] <nemik> i did apt-get upgrade and apt-get update and i still get some md5 error
[03:09] <miracleblue> nerf
[03:09] <miracleblue> :P
[03:10] <pfp> bobthegoat: ok, so you type in the password that you set with smbpassword earlier...
[03:10] <miracleblue> its cold
[03:10] <Xyc0> CrustyPunk: Im at a loss for that one
[03:10] <Xyc0> CrustyPunk: sorry
[03:10] <CrustyPunk> Xyc0: It's okay. Thanks for your help\
[03:11] <thickglasses> ubuntu comes with a c compiler doesnt it?
[03:11] <thoreauputic> thickglasses: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:11] <Xyc0> thickglasses: I don't think so, but its not hard to install one on ubuntu
[03:11] <CarlFK> thickglasses - you have to add it - apt-get install build-essinti... that.
[03:11] <bobthegoat> pfp it didn't help, yes same password and user name. when I click on the linux box in the windows network home thing, it brings up a login, to localhost.localdomain. I put the user and password in and hit ok, and then it comes back password is still there but windows has changed the user name to windowscomputer\username, not sure whats up with that pfp
[03:11] <PhantomFreak> Any idea what this error is about... Access to /proc/cpufreq is deprecated and will be removed from (new) 2.6. kernels soon after 2005-01-01
[03:12] <IIIEars> thickglasses - synaptic will install everything from a compiler to a full blown proffesional IDE with a search and a click.
[03:12] <pfp> bobthegoat: oh... strange. this is what i've used with windows
[03:12] <IIIEars> thickglasses - build-essential is all you will need for most things
[03:12] <nemik> failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubunut/pool/main/c/curl/curl_7.12.3-ubunut3_i386.deb MD5Sum mismatch
[03:12] <thickglasses> ok, thanks
[03:13] <nemik> what is wrong?
[03:13] <nemik> something with ubunut server?
[03:13] <nemik> and why i386, i have a pentium machine....
[03:13] <bobthegoat> ya I'm not sure it is service pack 2 of win xp , everywhere I looked for howtos, just told to do the smbpasswd thing and nobody mentions this problem.
[03:13] <Mez> anyone here on breezy kde?
[03:13] <Knud> please help: http://img156.echo.cx/img156/3196/kernelpanic3li.jpg
[03:13] <bobthegoat> it works with shared lvl access at least.
[03:13] <pfp> bobthegoat: hmm, what does 'egrep security.*= /etc/samba/smb.conf' say?
[03:14] <pfp> bobthegoat: ah, or do you have security = user already set
[03:14] <thoreauputic> nemik:  /topic
[03:14] <bobthegoat> security = user already,
[03:15] <nemik> thoreauputic: ok thanks. are there any backup ones to use?
[03:15] <bobthegoat> it says a couple of things basically /etc/samba/smb.conf:;   security = user
[03:15] <bobthegoat> /etc/samba/smb.conf:# Directory creation mask is set to 0700 for security reason s. If you want to
[03:15] <nemik> that i can edit in /ect/apt/sources.list
[03:15] <Amaranth> nemik: x86 packages are compiled for the 386 but tuned for the pentium 4
[03:15] <thoreauputic> nemik: sure, just change the us. prefix for a country of your choice
[03:15] <pfp> bobthegoat: oh, but there's a ; semicolon, it's commented out
[03:15] <nemik> ahh so....nl?
[03:15] <HerdsmanMarengo> anyone know what this means? 'What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[03:15] <HerdsmanMarengo> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 
[03:15] <HerdsmanMarengo> '
[03:15] <pfp> bobthegoat: remove that :)
[03:15] <Amaranth> nemik: so they run on older machines but they run better on newer ones, it's a good tradeoff
[03:16] <nemik> ahh ok thanks
[03:16] <nemik> what countries do you recommend me switching to?
[03:16] <nemik> for the server? since ca and us are down
[03:16] <Amaranth> ca and us are the same thing :)
[03:16] <bobthegoat> pfp hum that is somewhat stupid if that is the cause, let me try that.
[03:16] <Amaranth> plain archive.ubuntu.com seems to be working
[03:17] <nemik> ok i'll try it
[03:17] <CarlFK> archive.ubuntu.com will tend to be slower... better to find a close one
[03:17] <IIIEars> nemik - you can install an ubuntu kernel by selecting one that matches your hardware aND REBOOTING.
[03:18] <Amaranth> IIIEars: Big fingers? :)
[03:18] <IIIEars> Caps sorry - Cat-tastrophe
[03:18] <matjan_> hello, could anyone help me?
[03:18] <matjan_> i just ran the ubuntu live cd... it sees my modem card but says for the oem product: unknown....
[03:18] <CarlFK> us is down again?... duh.
[03:18] <nemik> IIEars, i just need to install curl, not a kernal
[03:18] <bobthegoat> when I try to log on in windows same thing is still happening.
[03:18] <matjan_> also... i noticed that the display on my monitor was curved... how can that be?
[03:19] <pfp> bobthegoat: did you restart samba?
[03:19] <miracleblue> hmm, im trying to add a skin to my usr/share/xmms/skins directory, but apparantly i dont have permissions to write to the folder.  how would i be able to write to the folder as root?
[03:19] <bobthegoat> pfp yes
[03:19] <nemik> ok i got it, thanks everyone
[03:20] <IcemanV9> miracleblue: use 'sudo'
[03:20] <CarlFK> http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/web/curl - so that that mean it is in "main"?
[03:20] <miracleblue> IcemanV9: sudo?  where to i get it
[03:20] <pfp> bobthegoat: hmm... im running out of answers soon :/ you could try logging in locally with smbclient
[03:21] <IcemanV9> miracleblue: type 'sudo cp <filename> /usr/share/xmms/skins/<filename>'
[03:21] <Razor-X> ououoeuouhmmm
[03:21] <bobthegoat> pfp ok thanks for all your help
[03:21] <Razor-X> errr, sorry!
[03:21] <miracleblue> IcemanV9 oh i see ^_^
[03:21] <Razor-X> hmmm, what's a good solution to transfer files over networks?
[03:22] <Razor-X> because, us.archive is down
[03:22] <Razor-X> so, i'm not getting anything of the repos
[03:22] <Knud> please help: http://img156.echo.cx/img156/3196/kernelpanic3li.jpg
[03:22] <zerokills> woot, im about to buy Cedega
[03:23] <pfp> Razor-X: uk.archive.... seems to work (as fi. is same as uk.)
[03:23] <Razor-X> pfp: ok
[03:23] <ukato> can anyone advise me on something
[03:23] <CarlFK> Razor-X - scp
[03:23] <ghatak> What is the kernel shipped with 5.04
[03:23] <matjan_> did someone look at my question?
[03:24] <Amaranth> Knud: Does it happen every time? Does it happen with the install CD?
[03:24] <Knud> yes the install cd
[03:24] <Knud> and yes everytime
[03:24] <Knud> tryed both vmware and vpc
[03:24] <Knud> allthought i didnt get the error while trying the live bootcd
[03:25] <Amaranth> Knud: Try the live CD on a real machine.
[03:25] <Knud> i did
[03:25] <Knud> but
[03:25] <Knud> it didnt like my vga card
[03:25] <IcemanV9> ghatak: 2.6.10
[03:25] <bobthegoat> pfp, I fixed it!
[03:25] <ghatak> IcemanV9: cool thanks
[03:25] <Amaranth> Knud: what kind of card?
[03:25] <geetergod> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=23680&CatId=107
[03:25] <miracleblue> IcemanV9: it isnt working...
[03:25] <geetergod> can someone go to that link
[03:25] <geetergod> ?
[03:25] <geetergod> thats my soundcard, whats that wire for?
[03:25] <Knud> ati x850xt
[03:25] <pfp> bobthegoat: cool! what was is?
[03:25] <pfp> *it
[03:26] <wulfepup> looks like it's all up and running .. haven';t actually tried anything yet though.
[03:26] <IcemanV9> miracleblue: i'm sorry? what do you mean?
[03:26] <Amaranth> Knud: Oh, once you get Ubuntu installed for real on that machine you can get the xorg-driver-fglrx and it should work fine.
[03:26] <Amaranth> err, the xorg-driver-fglrx package
[03:26] <HrdwrBoB> geetergod: it's a fibre SPDIF link I think
[03:26] <Knud> thats just it
[03:26] <bobthegoat> pfp, fyi what I did was create a file called smbusers the the only thing I put in it was systemusername = windows user name with the windows machine name on it. so windowscomputername/windowsusername. and then rstarted samba
[03:26] <Knud> i wanna try it before i install it for real
[03:27] <geetergod> HrdwrBob, whats it do? do i need it hooked in?
[03:27] <bobthegoat> pfp I got the smbusers file from the samba help that mentioned it
[03:27] <Amaranth> Knud: what does the live cd do when you boot it on the actual computer?
[03:27] <TokenBad> how get audio and video codecs for ubuntu?
[03:27] <HrdwrBoB> geetergod: no
[03:27] <Amaranth> Knud: saying it doesn't like your video card doesn't say much
[03:27] <geetergod> ok good
[03:27] <miracleblue> IcemanV9: I cd to the directory that the file I want to move is in, and i typed "sudo cp Winamp_X_XMMS_1.01.tar.gz /usr/share/xmms/skins/Winamp_X_XMMS_1.01.tar.gz" i think i wrote the command wrong
[03:27] <Knud> heh
[03:27] <Knud> something error while loading x
[03:27] <geetergod> HrdwrBoB, I cant seem to get my surround speakers and center speaker to work, any ideas?
[03:27] <bobthegoat> TokenBad, ubuntuguide.org
[03:27] <pfp> bobthegoat: cool, i have to remember that, thx
[03:27] <Amaranth> Knud: :/
[03:27] <geetergod> HrdwrBoB, i just put the new card in
[03:27] <Knud> ;\
[03:27] <P229> is there any easy way to configure/enable sound in 5.04?
[03:28] <miracleblue> IcemanV9: I'm an uber n00b
[03:28] <IcemanV9> miracleblue: looks fine to me. did the error msg shows up?
[03:28] <HrdwrBoB> geetergod: that's most likely a software issue
[03:29] <geetergod> HrdwrBoB, i have a 5.1 speaker system, the sound is a ton better with this new card...
[03:29] <miracleblue> yep, said "cannot create regular file 'usr/share/xmms/skins/Winamp_X_XMMS_1.01.tar.gz': No such file or directory"
[03:29] <geetergod> HrdwrBoB, can you help me with the software?
[03:29] <CarlFK> duh - how do I reset my password in hoary?
[03:30] <Mez> CarlFK, from a console
[03:30] <Mez> type
[03:30] <Mez> passwd
[03:30] <IcemanV9> miracleblue: you know what? you can do it in your local directory - ~/.xmms/Skins
[03:30] <CarlFK> Mez - if I could get to it... I can't remember what I set it to last time I did that ;)
[03:31] <Mez> ah :P
[03:31] <IcemanV9> miracleblue: that would be a lot easier
[03:31] <pfp> CarlFK: boot from livecd, chroot to your system (as root), then 'passwd yourlogin'
[03:31] <miracleblue> IcemanV9: uh...how would i access that directory?  (excuse my n00bness)
[03:31] <Adross> are there any linux based programs that can convert avi to ogg without losing syncing and making the actual movie res smaller?
[03:32] <IIIEars> miracleblue - CTRL+H will toggle hidden files to viewable
[03:32] <geetergod> how do you run a CD?
[03:32] <CarlFK> pfp - ugh.  isn't there a way to drop to a # prompt from boot?  like init=/bin/bash (only somthing that works ;)
[03:32] <miracleblue> ah, cool
[03:32] <miracleblue> thanks ^_^
[03:32] <zerokills> should i download Cedega file .deb or .tgz?
[03:32] <CarlFK> Adross - have hyou looked at transcode?
[03:32] <matjan_> hi syntaxerror64
[03:33] <Nazyr> IIIEars: only error I could find was about hardware system clock
[03:33] <Adross> trans...code?
[03:33] <IcemanV9> miracleblue: type 'ls .xmms' - you'll see some stuff there
[03:33] <syntaxerror64> hi matjan
[03:33] <miracleblue> hmm, no such file or directory
[03:33] <LinuxJones> Adross, >> http://www.theora.org/theorafaq.html#41
[03:33] <matjan_> so i still haven't installed it.... in fact, i just ran the live cd
[03:33] <IIIEars> Nazyr - wDo you think commenting it out would work for a bit?
[03:34] <SeamusLP> Adross:  I use transcode / DVD::RIP (frontend) for all of my video encoding needs
[03:34] <miracleblue> IcemanV9: no such file or directory, it really hates me
[03:34] <zerokills> guys, would Ubuntu recognize both .deb files and .tgz or just one of em?
[03:34] <IIIEars> Nazyr - it makes me nervous
[03:34] <pfp> CarlFK: dont know how that's done w/ ubuntu -  i've used the same on debian boxes though (without initrd) :)
[03:34] <Adross> SeamusLP: whats the conversion like?
[03:34] <IcemanV9> miracleblue: type 'cd' first, then type it again
[03:34] <miracleblue> oh hehe ^_^ oops
[03:34] <Nazyr> IIIEars: well the weird bit is this .. I can boot to rescue mode and it doesnt kernel panic .. and .. it doesnt error on loading hardware clock
[03:34] <zerokills> anyone, Ubuntu uses .deb?
[03:34] <toresbe> yes
[03:34] <IIIEars> Nazyr - give me a sec. the wiki has something i think.
[03:34] <SeamusLP> Adross:  What do you mean?
[03:34] <zerokills> k thx
[03:34] <miracleblue> IcemanV9: So i type "cd lp .xmms"?
[03:35] <matjan_> syntaxerror64: my screen acts funny i run the live cd
[03:35] <miracleblue> oops
[03:35] <miracleblue> i mean ls
[03:35] <Adross> SeamusLP: the quality, when you convert a file to ogg
[03:35] <Adross> do you lose any?
[03:35] <mushy> nobile
[03:35] <nobile> mushy
[03:35] <mushy> i found you
[03:35] <nobile> yes
[03:35] <nobile> it wasn't hard
[03:36] <nobile> you could see my channels
[03:36] <SeamusLP> Adross ogg is a container... are you talking about vorbis audio?
[03:36] <mushy> yes it was
[03:36] <syntaxerror64> matjan_: what do you mean
[03:36] <Adross> theora video
[03:36] <nobile> why was it?
[03:36] <Adross> converting avi to mpg
[03:36] <mushy> because im an idiot everything is hard for me
[03:36] <Adross> do you lose much quality?
[03:36] <rommer> is there an easy way via like a script to connect to a wpa protected wireless router using wpasupplicant
[03:36] <SeamusLP> Adross I've never used theora video, but I assume its a lossy compression.  If you want any decent filesize you use lossy compression.  The amount of loss you gets depends on the bitrate you pick -- I usually go with about 1200 for decent video / audio quality
[03:36] <matjan_> syntaxerror64: the desktop is not displayed properly on my monitor
[03:36] <SeamusLP> I use xvid4
[03:37] <matjan_> it is curved on the left and right side
[03:37] <Adross> thanksyou SeamusLP, cya later
[03:37] <ukato> if i don't want gnome anymore, is synaptic the easiest way to uninstall it?
[03:37] <nobile> I'm the idiot
[03:38] <syntaxerror64> matjan_: need to adjust the pincushion on your monitor it sounds like
[03:38] <matjan_> ??
[03:39] <geetergod> How do you run a CD?
[03:40] <jegerevan> Hi All!
[03:40] <geetergod> hey jegerevan
[03:40] <Nazyr> gettergod: define what you mean by "run" .. what are you trying to do with the CD?
[03:40] <geetergod> its the software for my new soundcard
[03:41] <Nazyr> geetergod: and it has linux drivers on it?
[03:41] <geetergod> well i was wondering if i was able to get a linux driver for something like that
[03:41] <jegerevan> Im looking to share experiences with people that have deployed ubuntu in the corporate environment. Something im really interested in doing!
[03:42] <Nazyr> gettergod: I would check the sound card company in questions website to see if they support linux .. to access the CD you are going to need to mount the drive
[03:42] <PhantomFreak> Does anyone know how to get the gnome-applet cpufreq-applet to work?
[03:43] <IIIEars> Nazyr - Gathered more info but no solution it seems fairly common. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28677 http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35994
[03:43] <TokenBad> ok I was doing what one site said to get the codecs and stuff for audio and video
[03:44] <geetergod> Nazyr, the 2 mainspeakers and sub works, but the surround and center speaker doesnt
[03:44] <TokenBad> but when type the stuff in
[03:44] <geetergod> Nazyr, so I dont think i have something enabled
[03:44] <TokenBad> after a bit it says Failed to fetch blah blah blah
[03:44] <TokenBad> so if running into that
[03:44] <TokenBad> any suggestions
[03:44] <TokenBad> some will install
[03:44] <TokenBad> and others will not
[03:45] <Nazyr> gettergod: I havent ever been able to get my surround to work correctly in Linux
[03:45] <HerdsmanMarengo> anyone know where C header files are located by default?
[03:45] <TokenBad> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[03:45] <Nazyr> IIIEars: danke .. Ill see where I can go from there .. thanks for the assist
[03:45] <TokenBad> its says that also
[03:45] <geetergod> Has anyone been able to get surround sound working in linux?
[03:45] <luqin> i'm seeing a bunch of md5sum mismatch messages when trying to install various things
[03:46] <Amaranth> luqin: /topic
[03:46] <BockBilbo> is it possible to make an init script run before ubuntu's network config?
[03:47] <luqin> hrm, dns update to ubuntu.mirrors.tds.net, the culprit?
[03:48] <FR500> BockBilbo, sure it is possible, but i think you need to do a System V style script or something
[03:48] <FR500> i think
[03:48] <BockBilbo> FR500, where do i do that? in the update-rc.d command?
[03:48] <FR500> BockBilbo, i dont really know
[03:48] <BockBilbo> ok
[03:48] <BockBilbo> thanks
[03:48] <FR500> BockBilbo, otherwise, a dirty way i used sometime was editing the net script to call another script on startup
[03:49] <FR500> BockBilbo, what do you need to do?
[03:49] <BockBilbo> i need it to configue my wlan
[03:49] <BockBilbo> card
[03:49] <Nazyr> IIIEars: neither of those linked forum issues are related to my problem =) but thanks for trying
[03:49] <FR500> BockBilbo, what exactly?
[03:49] <BockBilbo> well turn the modules on
[03:49] <BockBilbo> and ifup the iface
[03:50] <geetergod> Can someone help me with my soundcard/speakers in a private message?
[03:50] <IIIEars> Nazyr - I hope you can install Ubuntu it's a pleasure having you in this channel. - good luck.
[03:50] <FR500> BockBilbo, what module do u load?
[03:51] <BockBilbo> ACX111
[03:51] <BockBilbo> well its called acx100
[03:51] <FR500> you run modprobe acx100?
[03:51] <BockBilbo> ive just compied them
[03:51] <BockBilbo> nope
[03:51] <BockBilbo> i run a script
[03:51] <BockBilbo> which does everything to make the card work fine
[03:51] <johnnybezak> hey guys i need to connect to a computer with the ip 10.0.2.2 but i don't know the netmask, and when i run ifconfig i just get "netmask 0xffffff00" any ideas on what the netmask is (sorry im a tcp/ip noob)
[03:52] <luqin> 255.255.255.0
[03:52] <Delirus42> Eh, I have a quick question:  what's the ubuntu utility that configures x?    I remember there's a special one, but I forget the name of it.
[03:52] <Jormundgand> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:52] <Jormundgand> ?
[03:52] <|QuaD-> Delirus42: you on hoary or breezy?
[03:53] <chating> helo
[03:53] <rixth> Well, that was rather scary, booted my PC and mount was segfaulting.
[03:53] <Delirus42> |QuaD hoary
[03:53] <|QuaD-> Delirus42: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (as Jormundgand said :) )
[03:53] <Delirus42> Thanks very much
[03:54] <chating> ftp.nerim.net down ?
[03:54] <Amaranth> chating: You shouldn't use marillat, it's known to break ubuntu installs.
[03:54] <chating> ican't get some packet from there
[03:54] <chating> Amaranth, so ?
[03:56] <IIIEars> Delirius42 - sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg sudo sudo su su sudio - okay i like music
[03:57] <IIIEars> phil collins and ubuntu - hm
[03:57] <miracleblue> whee, some drum n bass fun ^_^
[03:57] <miracleblue> finally, i got Linux playing music again, and properly too
[03:57] <CrustyPunk> Ugh. Where does AllegroCS install to?
[03:58] <SeamusLP> IIIEars: Is that who provided the sound effects? ;)
[03:58] <chating> Amaranth, thx,i use backports now :-)
[03:58] <miracleblue> next is just getting gaim to flash on the taskbar as a notification when new messages arrive
[03:59] <rixth> miracleblue, tell me! tell me!
[03:59] <rixth> I havn't found a way to do that.
[03:59] <black_Nightmare> hey there
[04:00] <miracleblue> rixth: same, thats what i wanna get it to do, if i find one, ill let u know
[04:00] <CrustyPunk> Does anyone know where AllegroCL is installed? O
[04:00] <P229> is there any easy way to configure/enable sound in 5.04? I'm sorry if someone already responded to this... if they did, it's long since scrolled of my screen
[04:00] <misfit-toy> hmm, getting delayed mousification and typing and graphics, but just a tiny bit....this is day 3 of ubuntu for me, just noticed it....
[04:00] <CrustyPunk> , being asked where it is by libsdl-mixer
[04:00] <rixth> The best I've got is installing the Message Notification plugin, it just puts (*) at the start of the window name on the taskbar
[04:01] <rixth> THere's also guifications which can do MSN-Windows style popups by the tray
[04:01] <miracleblue> rixth: how do i activate those?
[04:02] <miracleblue> rixth: the notification windows
[04:02] <miracleblue> rixth: litytle pop-up thingys
[04:02] <IIIEars> Configure sound properly - Here >>> :)  http://ubuntuguide.org/
[04:02] <Jormundgand> Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/restricted/source/Sources.gz  This HTTP server has broken range support [IP: 82.211.81.151 80] 
[04:02] <Jormundgand> o_O
[04:02] <rixth> miracleblue, Google Guifications :)
[04:02] <CrustyPunk> Does anyone know where AllegroCL is installed?
[04:03] <miracleblue> rixth: okie dokie, thanks
[04:03] <rixth> I guess it's not wise to use Etch yet? :) Also, how do I work this damn jigdo thing?
[04:04] <islander> hello
[04:04] <islander> I am trying to install a boot splash, but I can not find the kernel folder
[04:05] <islander> what I have is /usr/src/rpm
[04:05] <thoreauputic> rixth: etch? Are you in the right channel? :) Etch is Debian...
[04:05] <geetergod> "There is no input plugin available to handle 'dvd:/' Maybe MRL syntax is wrong or file/stream source doesnt exist.
[04:05] <geetergod> thats what it says in xine when i try to watch a dvd
[04:05] <geetergod> whats that mean?
[04:05] <psychonate|away> I want to build the device3dfx driver, but I don't know what to do with it.
[04:06] <psychonate|away> It's src code in /usr/src/modules
[04:06] <chating> while i want to upgrade, i got WARNIG
[04:06] <chating> Do you want to continue [Y/n] ? y
[04:06] <chating> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[04:06] <psychonate|away> Just using 'make' didn't do anything.
[04:06] <chating> how to fix it?
[04:06] <psychonate|away> make: *** [sanity]  Error 255
[04:06] <geetergod> The source cant be read. Maybe you dont have enough rights for this, or source doesnt contain data
[04:06] <Jormundgand> No fix, just ignore the warning, chating.
[04:07] <rixth> Oh sorry guys! I have both #debian open too :)
[04:07] <geetergod> anyone know?
[04:07] <IIIEars> how to install graphics driver nvidia. >> here  http://ubuntuguide.org/
[04:08] <miracleblue> rixth: So, how would i install the Guifications?
[04:08] <islander> I am trying to install a bootsplash, but I can not find my kernel folder, all that I have is /usr/src/rpm
[04:08] <rixth> miracleblue, you need to compile it
[04:09] <miracleblue> rixth: ah, ok, so the normal way
[04:09] <rixth> miracleblue, let me get them, I havn't actually got them installed
[04:09] <Knud> dev input for usb mice?
[04:09] <rixth> /input/mice
[04:09] <miracleblue> rixth: do they need to be compiled in like a specific plugins folder, or will it do that for itself, or what?
[04:10] <rixth> I'm not sure, let me try and get them :)
[04:10] <islander> how do I install a bootsplash
[04:10] <Jormundgand> Yay! New Xorg in the repos.
[04:10] <miracleblue> rixth: ok, no worries ^_^
[04:11] <islander> I don't know where to find my kernel
[04:11] <islander> Does anybody have a clue where can I find it
[04:11] <weezer> How much space is required for a full ubuntu install?
[04:11] <Mez> weezer
[04:11] <Mez> bout 1.9 Gb
[04:12] <Mez> for base install
[04:12] <Mez> IRIRC
[04:12] <Mez> #IIRC*
[04:12] <geetergod> why do i always have to type 'killall esd' in the terminal before i can use sound?
[04:12] <weezer> Mez: so is ~4gb enough for a full?
[04:12] <islander> Where can I find ubuntu kernel
[04:12] <Mez> yeah
[04:12] <Mez> most people find 3Gb plenty
[04:12] <weezer> Mez: does that include swap?
[04:13] <geetergod> why do i always have to type 'killall esd' in the terminal before i can use sound?
[04:13] <Mez> well
[04:13] <weezer> http://www.ubuntulinux.org
[04:13] <islander> because it is not on /usr/src/Linux, what I have is /usr/src/rpm
[04:13] <Mez> 3gb fgor the file system is enough + some to play around with
[04:13] <Mez> my swap is 1Gb
[04:13] <weezer> Mez: oh so a 4gb partition should be fine then
[04:13] <meng> about the new fgrlx drivers, should i use automatic or custom install?
[04:13] <EvanCarroll> that all depends on what you want to install
[04:14] <cthulfuego> is X in breezy still hoprribly broken?
[04:14] <weezer> Mez: cool thanks
[04:14] <islander> This is unbeiliveble
[04:14] <geetergod> why do i always have to type 'killall esd' in the terminal before i can use sound?
[04:14] <Mez> weezer - hopefully - if you set up a swap and filesyetm in it
[04:14] <EvanCarroll> case and point, kde with copy of install debs will cost you about 1.5gb
[04:14] <meng> i just need 3d acceleration to work
[04:14] <weezer> Mez: I have 768 megs of ram and am not serving so not terribly concerned with the swap:)
[04:14] <EvanCarroll> cthulfuego: breezy works fine for me
[04:14] <islander> there anybody here competent enoght to answer the question
[04:14] <cthulfuego> EvanCarroll: Cool.
[04:14] <meng> i wonder if anyone has issues with the latest driver installer
[04:14] <Fingertips> hello
[04:14] <weezer> Mez: just make a 500meg one or something
[04:15] <EvanCarroll> usynic: your question is fucking stupid google
[04:15] <EvanCarroll> err that to islander
[04:15] <Mez> weezer - It's RECCOMENDED that you ALWAYS have swap space AT LEAST DOUBLE your RAM
[04:15] <Fingertips> what is the command for creating a mount point? mkdir /???/windows
[04:15] <BockBilbo> can anyone tell me why do i get this error: *Starting internet superserver. || Starting MySQL Database server:mysqld. ||Checking for crashed MySQL tables in the background. ||/usr/bin/mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed ||error: 'Access denied for user: 'debian-sys-maint@localhost' (Using password:'YES')
[04:15] <Geoffrian> I just typed this.
[04:15] <geetergod> why do i always have to type 'killall esd' in the terminal before i can use sound?
[04:15] <Fingertips> how do i purge processes?
[04:15] <EvanCarroll> Mez: no it is suggested that you keep swap at most double you ram.
[04:15] <cthulfuego> islander: There won't be an /usr/src/linux until you install a kernel source tree.
[04:16] <islander> how can I do that
[04:16] <weezer> Mez: too ture, but I am not hardcore linux yet so it should be enough for me for now:)
[04:16] <thoreauputic> Mez: the 2x swap rule is rather outdated now, with so many people having buckets of RAM
[04:16] <cthulfuego> EvanCarroll: That is true only for OLD  (pre 2.4.10) kernels.
[04:16] <EvanCarroll> cthulfuego: no it isn't
[04:16] <cthulfuego> EvanCarroll: yes, it is.
[04:16] <weezer> Mez: think I will go do the install and see how it goes, thanks
[04:16] <cthulfuego> EvanCarroll: On those old kernels, the swapper took a massive performance hit with swap < 2x ram. That problem no longer exists.
[04:17] <zerokills> woo! im installing Half-Life 2
[04:17] <EvanCarroll> Swap is only used when you exhaust all your ram, if you end up moving into swap you either have a memmory leak, or are doing something rediciolusly abnormal, excessive swap is a waste of space
[04:17] <Davey> what does it mean when a package says it conflicts with something but I can't find that thing in the package manager? :)
[04:17] <Fingertips> EvanCarroll, do you know hwo to purge processes in linux?
[04:17] <SeamusLP> zerokills:  I hear it runs well in cedega
[04:17] <EvanCarroll> Fingertips: Yes, kill -s9
[04:17] <cthulfuego> EvanCarroll: Swap is used to page out unused apps, so ram is freed for disk cache. The system doesn't _only_ start using swap when ram runs out.
[04:17] <thoreauputic> EvanCarroll: umm... not quite... you don't have to run out of RAM to start swapping
[04:17] <islander> EvaCarroll: Would you watch your language
[04:18] <cthulfuego> EvanCarroll: I imagine the kernel will even swap out clean pages
[04:18] <IIIEars> islander http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto/
[04:18] <Mez> Evan 2 x or more and thore - which is why I sadi "reccomended"
[04:18] <Fingertips> Fingertips, how do i see what processes are running
[04:18] <EvanCarroll> cthulfuego: yes it does.
[04:18] <islander> thank you
[04:18] <EvanCarroll> cthulfuego: type free, it should read 0 used swap
[04:18] <rixth> miracleblue, you need to get the source package of gaim, apt-get source gaim
[04:18] <Mez> The size of your swap partition should be equal to twice your computer's RAM, or 32 MB, whichever amount is larger, but no more than 2048 MB (or 2 GB)
[04:18] <thoreauputic> Mez: OK :)
[04:18] <cthulfuego> EvanCarroll: Please, go and read up on the VM subsystem.
[04:18] <Fingertips> EvanCarroll, how do i look @ the processes running
[04:19] <EvanCarroll> Fingertips: ps -aux
[04:19] <EvanCarroll> cthulfuego: please run the utility 'free'
[04:19] <cthulfuego>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[04:19] <cthulfuego> Mem:       1020276     992228      28048          0      45524     393572
[04:19] <cthulfuego> -/+ buffers/cache:     553132     467144
[04:19] <cthulfuego> Swap:      1953488      74208    1879280
[04:19] <cthulfuego> EvanCarroll: Now go and read up on how the VM system works <heh>
[04:19] <geetergod> why do i always have to type 'killall esd' in the terminal before i can use sound?
[04:20] <EvanCarroll> then you have a problem, I have 3 linux boxes in front of me, two of them are running x, with numerious apps running one with 512 megs of ram the other with a gig no swap utilization both 2.6 kernels
[04:20] <cthulfuego> EvanCarroll: No, there is no problem. You are ignorant on the subject you're trying to lecture me on.
[04:20] <thoreauputic> EvanCarroll: you are misinformed
[04:20] <miracleblue> rixth: when you find out how to install thatstuff, plz send me a private msg, cause i just need to cook food for the monent
[04:21] <islander> EvanCarroll: Who are you
[04:21] <miracleblue> rixth: thanks ^_^
[04:21] <cthulfuego> geetergod: Are your sound apps configured to use ESD?
[04:21] <islander> EvanCarroll: is Mr Linux
[04:22] <geetergod> cthulfuego, i dunno, can you please help me with my sound?
[04:22] <IIIEars> EvanCarrol is Finnish?
[04:22] <geetergod> cthulfuego, maybe that'll help me with my surround sound problem
[04:22] <Davey> how do I find out which serial port something is on?
[04:22] <cthulfuego> EvanCarroll: The kernel _will_ swap out apps and services that have been idle for a long time, it will use the ram that frees up as disk cache, this provided a net performance _gain_.
[04:23] <cthulfuego> Davey: Try all, see which one works.
[04:23] <geetergod> cthulfuego, Can you help me with my sound or are you busy?
[04:24] <cthulfuego> geetergod: I'm busy.
[04:24] <Davey> cthulfuego: heh, thats not fun ;)
[04:24] <geetergod> cthulfuego, k
[04:24] <Davey> cthulfuego: I don't even know which dev devices they are on
[04:26] <rixth> rixth@bear:~/Desktop/guifications-2.10/gaim-1.1.4/gaim-1.1.4$ sudo apt-get install libglib2.0-dev
[04:26] <rixth> Reading package lists... Done
[04:26] <rixth> Segmentation faulty tree... 50%
[04:26] <rixth> Gah.
[04:26] <IIIEars>  EvanCarrol  feeling daring and have ram to spare? sysctl -a | grep vm    vm.overcommit_memory = 1
[04:27] <shanon> What is a good news reader for ubuntu (gnome) desktop that handles binarys ?
[04:27] <TokenBad> bah
[04:28] <TokenBad> keep getting errors trying to install some codecs
[04:28] <EvanCarroll> IIIEars: mine is set to 0
[04:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> WOOOT. Back in Gnome :)
[04:30] <CarlFK> so I booted with init=/bin/bash, but / is mounted RO - how do I mout it RW?
[04:31] <rixth>  What do you do when apt-get segfaults? It only does it if it's an install, apt-get update doesn't kill it, but apt-get install does.
[04:31] <CarlFK> cry
[04:32] <EvanCarroll> rixth: run an strace on apt and file a bug report
[04:32] <rixth> gettimeofday({1118457144, 644420}, NULL) = 0 --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) @ 0 (0) --- +++ killed by SIGSEGV +++ **************** It did 'gettimeofday' many, many times before it died.
[04:33] <EvanCarroll> Now file a bug a report
[04:33] <CarlFK> http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/
[04:33] <misfit-toy> hmm, getting delayed mousification and typing and graphics, but just a tiny bit....this is day 3 of ubuntu for me, just noticed it....
[04:34] <clee> heh, ok, so the us archive having corrupted debs on it is a known issue? :)
[04:35] <IIIEars> misfit-toy what does your process list look like? "ps -e" or resources? "top"
[04:35] <jegerevan> has anyone rolled out ubuntu in the enterprise here ?
[04:35] <dstillz> clee: I can't get kubuntu becasue of MD5Sum mismatch; do you think that might be related to whatever issue you're having?
[04:35] <clee> dstillz: yep
[04:36] <clee> dstillz: I just replaced 'us.archive' with 'archive' in my sources.list
[04:36] <IIIEars> misfit-toy - Agh - ahem please don't paste it in channel. - whew got that out
[04:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> jegerevan, what do you mean exactly?
[04:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi holycow
[04:37] <holycow> mr. kaiser :)
[04:37] <jegerevan> kamping: basically deployed ubuntu to a number of desktops..in a medium sized business environment..
[04:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> jegerevan, yes, but only as thin clients ;)
[04:38] <EvanCarroll> dstillz: is the md5sum mismatch on libgnomeui ?
[04:38] <dstillz> It's on a significant number of packages.
[04:38] <dstillz> But they're all KDE-related, from what I can tell.
[04:38] <jegerevan> gotchya. How many clients are you running ?
[04:39] <clee> libgcrypt11, libaudiofile, libgtk2.0
[04:39] <clee> etc, etc
[04:39] <clee> those were mine
[04:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> jegerevan, a dozen or so
[04:39] <zerokills> SeamusLP: have you ever ran games on Cedega before? this is my first time
[04:39] <IIIEars> ubotu what is amnesia?
[04:39] <ubotu> IIIEars: I think you lost me on that one
[04:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> they were stand alone, untill the server was there
[04:39] <misfit-toy> IIIEars, interesting, firestarter is gobbling up 39%
[04:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> now they are thin clients
[04:39] <EvanCarroll> dstillz: you can force an install excluding those packages with mismatches, or you can hack the md5sums to force an install of the possibly corrupted file (this could be bad if mirror was hacked)
[04:39] <clee> EvanCarroll: no, they're definitely corrupted
[04:39] <clee> EvanCarroll: I think that the server has corrupted copies of the files
[04:40] <EvanCarroll> clee: extract the downloaded deb and find out, the deb should fail to extract if not properly formatted
[04:40] <dstillz> The packages are no good.  The actual .debs, I mean.
[04:40] <IIIEars> misfit-toy - I am only a few weeks old at this someone has the answer with the info you provided
[04:40] <dstillz> The ones it says are corrupted.
[04:40] <jegerevan> kamping, I see. Basically I support a network of around 50 desktops..all running 2000 at the moment. Would really love to move over to open source\ubuntu. Not sure whether think\thick clients would be the way to go!
[04:40] <phxguy> has anyone here installed the new linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 from synaptic yet?
[04:40] <clee> EvanCarroll: that's what I did, dude.
[04:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> jegerevan, what do the clients do?
[04:41] <jegerevan> kamping, would also need to make sure its possible to integrate into AD for authentication
[04:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> AD?
[04:41] <phxguy> anyone????
[04:41] <jegerevan> active directory
[04:41] <Knud> anyone help me? failed to initialize core devices when trying to start x
[04:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> phxguy yes, but its not new
[04:42] <peloverde> Is there a way to make gnome search say ~/pixmaps before $datadir/pixmaps when finding icons?
[04:42] <phxguy> there a new version of it Kamping_Kaiser
[04:42] <jegerevan> kamping, most are quite basic. Email, internet, ms office + one custom app.
[04:42] <misfit-toy> IIIEars, no prob, just checking the support here, it's been fairly good so far...wow I have keyboard lag too
[04:42] <IIIEars> misfit-toy - if you feel bold "killall firestarter" or kill PID_that_is_firestarter
[04:42] <phxguy> its 2.6.10-34.2
[04:42] <clee> killall, pff
[04:42] <clee> pkill is so much cooler
[04:42] <misfit-toy> IIIEars, I don't want to kill my firewall ;)
[04:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> jegerevan, if they are willing to learn OO.o (or you use crossover) the "custom app" is your only problem... but whats AD?
[04:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> oh you said
[04:43] <clee> active directory
[04:43] <kakalto> Could someone please help? I'm trying to install a 2cd game onto wine, and the setup is now asking for the 2nd cd. I can't umount the cd, to put in cd2. What can I do?
[04:43] <thoreauputic> misfit-toy: actually you wouldn't - firestarter is just an iptables front end
[04:43] <EvanCarroll> kakalto: have you tried eject?
[04:43] <EvanCarroll> kakalto: that is the 'eject' utility
[04:43] <EvanCarroll> kakalto: or umount -l
[04:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> jegerevan, yes i think ADs supported (it better be ;))
[04:43] <IIIEars> thoreauputic - can it corrupt anything if it misbehaves?
[04:44] <kakalto> eject didn't work
[04:44] <kakalto> but umount -l did
[04:44] <kakalto> thanks
[04:44] <jegerevan> kamping.. yes crossover is an option definately for the MS office apps. But the thing is, we are running MS 2003 server..in a domain environment. So would need ubuntu to be able to join a windows domain.
[04:44] <phxguy> guess ill install it and hope for the best since im getting much in here
[04:44] <thoreauputic> IIIEars: not really - having the GUI running isn't necessary at all, and AFAIK that's all you would kill
[04:44] <misfit-toy> thoreauputic, but it's not firestarter, it's something else, can't put my finger on it...I get a lag on any input, mouse, keybd, etc...like very 5 seconds
[04:44] <thoreauputic> misfit-toy: hmmm... I don't know
[04:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> jegerevan, it can I'm 90% sure, and if it wont, apt-get whatever whould work
[04:45] <geetergod> Does linux suck for sound stuff?
[04:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[04:45] <synd> geetergod: why you say that?
[04:45] <kakalto> EvanCarroll, never mind, that didn't work
[04:45] <geetergod> Just because it seems nobody can get their 5.1 surround sound to work
[04:45] <Knud> anyone help me? failed to initialize core devices when trying to start x
[04:45] <misfit-toy> thoreauputic, yeah, now firestarter is back to 4%, it was just checking shit...this is weird.
[04:45] <EvanCarroll> kakalto: what did it do?
[04:45] <kakalto> never mind, it did work
[04:45] <kakalto> EvanCarroll, thanks
[04:45] <kakalto> I just needed to sudo eject
[04:45] <synd> misfit-toy: i got that wireless card working : P
[04:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> knud, check the log, what fialed?
[04:46] <danrien> hey people
[04:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> hey
[04:46] <misfit-toy> synd, you already got it?
[04:46] <danrien> i kinda got a question for u pros
[04:46] <geetergod> synd, ive been looking through the forums and see people with the same problem as me.. cant get their 5.1 surround sound to work with linux
[04:46] <misfit-toy> synd, I'm happy I was able to provide you a new toy!
[04:46] <synd> misfit-toy: : )
[04:46] <synd> geetergod: are you using ubuntu for DVD?
[04:46] <Knud> Kamping_Kaiser
[04:46] <Knud> the mouse apparentkly
[04:47] <danrien> haha alright
[04:47] <IIIEars> thoreauputic - the easiest way would be a firestarter reinstall but, - grin - i am curious would tail and dmsg to a log be possible? syntax?
[04:47] <danrien> illjust get it out
[04:47] <geetergod> I use it for everything, gameplay, dvd's, music
[04:47] <danrien> i have an amd64 system and i cant get wine to install
[04:47] <danrien> with 64 distro
[04:47] <synd> geetergod: 5.1 music?
[04:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> knud, thats not a core device :S
[04:47] <thoreauputic> IIIEars: you know more than me on those subjects, I'd say
[04:47] <thoreauputic> :)
[04:47] <Knud> aha it said failed to initialize pointer
[04:47] <geetergod> have a 7.1 sound card and 5.1 speakers i cant get the surrounds and center speaker to work
[04:48] <IIIEars> lol - erm. - you are ever the humble guru. sorry to bother you.
[04:48] <synd> geetergod: : /
[04:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> knud, not sure off the top of my head
[04:48] <geetergod> synd, I see a lot of people have this problem with linux unfortunately
[04:49] <Knud> where can i find the log
[04:49] <Knud> i'm new
[04:49] <synd> geetergod: its not so much linux as it is the developers of your card
[04:49] <synd> providing drivers, id say
[04:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> knud /var/log/
[04:50] <danrien> does anybody have wine working an amd64 system?
[04:50] <xterminus> i get 5.1 sound okay - but i have to explicitly tell my media player to output an ac3 signal (i currently use the soundstorm chipset, but i've used sblive and audigy cards for sound too)
[04:51] <xterminus> w/ mplayer it's something like mplayer -hwac3 filename
[04:51] <Knud> confugyred mouse cannot open input device unloadmodule mouse
[04:51] <Knud> no core pointer registered
[04:51] <Knud> fatal server error: failed to initialize core devices
[04:51] <Knud> thats what it says in the log
[04:52] <dstillz> I wish there was some way to speed GNOME up.
[04:52] <kakalto> where can I configure wine's drives (C:, D:. E:. etc. )
[04:52] <kakalto> ?
[04:52] <synd> dstillz: how much RAM you got?
[04:52] <danrien> hmmmm??
[04:52] <IIIEars> danrien - Hello! - You can help me! If the system locks up mouse/cursor after showing showing the desk and the boot log shows system clock errors what is the tip? hint?
[04:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> kakalto ~/.wine/
[04:52] <IIIEars> AMD 64
[04:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> iirc
[04:53] <danrien> yes
[04:53] <dstillz> synd: 512MB
[04:53] <kakalto> Kamping_Kaiser, which file? I tried config, but the drives weren't stated in the file
[04:53] <cthulfuego> danrien: It works on occasion in the 32bit chroot, yes.
[04:53] <synd> dstillz: gnomes probably not going to get much faster ; )
[04:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> Xorg.0.log
[04:54] <synd> dstillz: you ought to try xfce, if you havent yet. it should cure your speed woes
[04:54] <cthulfuego> dstillz: What sort of cpu?
[04:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> synd. isnt novel doing some optomisations?
[04:54] <dstillz> cthulfuego: 1.5GHz Pentium Mobile
[04:54] <synd> Kamping_Kaiser: no idea
[04:55] <cthulfuego> dstillz: Gnome should be pretty much instantaneous on that.
[04:55] <synd> dstillz: i agree
[04:55] <danrien> cthulfuego: ok so it might work on a 64bit system?
[04:55] <synd> dstillz: how slow is it?
[04:55] <gm78> Hi all. If i have a directory of source code that has subdirectories and i want to search that entire directory and all of its subdirectories for a single word (inside text files) how do i do that?
[04:55] <cthulfuego> danrien: *only* in a 32bit chroot.
[04:55] <EvanCarroll> gm78: grep -R 'word' ./*
[04:56] <dstillz> synd: I can see things redraw when I switch between windows, and there's a perceptible delay in menus
[04:56] <Knud> Kamping_Kaiser there was fonts missing
[04:56] <Knud> got it working now
[04:56] <dstillz> I'm running the latest nvidia drivers
[04:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> cool ok :)  done knud
[04:56] <gm78> EvanCarrol : thank you....do i put the '  ' in it too?
[04:56] <cthulfuego> dstillz: Is your HD running at normal speed, in DMA mode?
[04:56] <EvanCarroll> gm78: they are implicit
[04:56] <danrien> cthulfuego: ok i dont know what that means but im guessing it means im going to have to work some magic
[04:56] <synd> dstillz: hm. i run gnome on a 1.7ghz celeron with 512MB RAM and i dont experience that. DMA on your HD perhaps?
[04:57] <IIIEars> dstillz - is glxgears giving any clues?
[04:57] <synd> ah, what cthulfuego said
[04:57] <dstillz> glxgears runs lightning fast
[04:57] <cthulfuego> danrien: https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html#id274293
[04:57] <Knud> allthough now it seems kde got stuck on initializing perpherals
[04:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> dstillz, is it going into powersaving?
[04:58] <dstillz> Kamping_Kaiser: I don't ever intend to unplug it, so I have it at maximum speed
[04:58] <danrien> thanks man
[04:58] <EvanCarroll> gm78: but they won't hurt, see man pages for grep and rgrep and egrep
[04:58] <danrien> whats the command for whispering btw? haha
[04:58] <dstillz> IIIEars: I'm getting 2090fps in glxgears
[04:58] <EvanCarroll> dstillz: then you have 3d acceleration enabled
[04:58] <concept10> has abyone recompiled the kernel? is the same as recompiling debian?
[04:59] <cthulfuego> synd: PPC ubuntu runs fine on them right now.
[04:59] <gm78> EvanCarroll : OK. lets use red hat as an example. if i wanted to look for red hat copyright notices in some source code, i could do grep -R 'red hat' ./sourcedirectory/*
[04:59] <synd> cthulfuego: i agree
[04:59] <cthulfuego> concept10: You can use make-kpkg, yes.
[04:59] <concept10> cthulfuego: thanks
[04:59] <synd> cthulfuego: but triple boot OS X, Ubuntu, and WinXP sounds fun.
[04:59] <duken> i want to convert my wallpapper to splasimage.xpm, what packet i must to install for convert utilitis ?
[05:00] <EvanCarroll> gm78: i would prefer 'grep -Ri 'red hat' ./sourcedir/*
[05:00] <cthulfuego> synd: Apart from the WinXP bit. Why install a shit OS? ;-)
[05:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> are shutdown messages logged somewhere?
[05:00] <synd> cthulfuego: gaming
[05:00] <EvanCarroll> gm78: becuase grep is case sensative by default
[05:00] <thoreauputic> gm78: case sensitive, and I think Redhat is one word ;)
[05:00] <EvanCarroll> Kamping_Kaiser: yes, /etc/wtmp, or last
[05:00] <EvanCarroll> Kamping_Kaiser: failed logins in /etc/btmp
[05:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> k. ta.
[05:01] <gm78> EvanCarroll: i tried grep -Rc 'red hat' ./source/*  to count the amount of times they show up, but it lists a number for each file, not a total number. is there a way i can get a total number
[05:01] <EvanCarroll> Kamping_Kaiser: err no, its /var/log/wtmp, /var/log/btmp sorry
[05:01] <cthulfuego> gm78: pipe the output into "wc -l"
[05:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> evancarroll, i guesd ;)
[05:01] <cthulfuego> gm78: "rgrep -i 'red hat' ./sourcedir | "wc -l
[05:01] <EvanCarroll> gm78: you could either concatinate the contents with cat and send to grep, or add the numbers or maybe grep for the word and pipe to wc -l
[05:02] <JohnnyQuest> what is the most recent/stable version of ubuntu?
[05:02] <thoreauputic> ah.. red hat is indeed 2 words, except on the logo...interesting
[05:03] <K_Dallas> JohnnyQuest, it is in the topic ;)
[05:04] <JohnnyQuest> ya, it would be
[05:04] <JohnnyQuest> and i woudlnt read it
[05:04] <JohnnyQuest> i havnt used irc in years
[05:04] <IIIEars> dstillz - only guessing that the linux kernel sees mobile HT processors as dual processors.
[05:04] <JohnnyQuest> ever since i quit playing comptuer gtames
[05:05] <ben> hi
[05:05] <dstillz> IIIEars: I think this thing is too old to support HT.  but I didn't check
[05:05] <dstillz> I simply installed fans and ribbon cables and a disk/caddy, and installed Ubuntu
[05:08] <gm78> [ryan@ryanhp ~] $ grep -Ri 'red hat' ./linux-2.6.11.11 | wc
[05:08] <gm78>     459    4478   43550
[05:08] <gm78> [ryan@ryanhp ~] $
[05:08] <gm78> that was my output
[05:08] <gm78> what do those 3 numbers mean
[05:09] <gm78> or did i mess up the command?
[05:09] <rixth> I've install vnc4server, how do I start it?
[05:09] <darius___> wc - print the number of newlines, words, and bytes in files
[05:09] <darius___> man pages... hate em, love em .. just use em :)
[05:10] <gm78> ok, for my example then...that means there are 459 lines in the kernel that contain the words "red hat" ?
[05:11] <gm78> judging from the man page, thats what it means
[05:11] <darius___> yep
[05:11] <bokko> Can two different linux distributions share the same swap space on a system?
[05:11] <Madpilot> evening, all. can someone remind me what the little 3d test prog in Ubuntu is called? The one with the gears?
[05:11] <CarlFK> bokko - yes.
[05:11] <EvanCarroll> gm78: they aren't in the kernel they are probably comments in the source
[05:11] <CarlFK> glxgears
[05:12] <IIIEars> glxgears
[05:12] <CarlFK> eye wen!
[05:12] <CarlFK> oh wait... I still can't log in cuz I forgot my pw... I loose.
[05:12] <nomasteryoda> lol
[05:12] <Madpilot> :) thnx, CarlFK. points for trying, IIIEars :p
[05:12] <bokko> CarlFK; cool ok one more question, how do I set partition space on a drive as community space for both installs?
[05:12] <IIIEars> CarlFK - you young whipper-snapper. - lol
[05:13] <bob2> bokko: "community spatcs"? you mean mounting it from both systems?
[05:13] <gm78> EvanCarroll : yeah, thats what i meant. the whole kernel thing isnt the reason im trying to figure this out, i am just using it to figure out grep since i had the source anyways. that number just seems weird
[05:13] <bokko> bob2: yes, both distributions
[05:13] <CarlFK> bokko - same lines in both fstab files
[05:13] <miracleblue> nerf!!  nerf i say
[05:13] <EvanCarroll> gm78: you can verify it if you want
[05:13] <EvanCarroll> gm78: use another method
[05:13] <bokko> CarlFK: there any tutorials on modding fstab?  I tried to mess with it once and failed miserably
[05:14] <darius___> gm78: pull out wc to see the lines containing that text
[05:14] <EvanCarroll> gm78: find ./ -type f -exec grep -i 'red hat' | wc -l
[05:14] <miracleblue> hows it goin everyone?
[05:14] <Madpilot> wow, my glxgears FPS have tanked. same grphx card, same mobo, less than half of what I got last time I ran it...
[05:14] <EvanCarroll> err
[05:14] <EvanCarroll> gm78: find ./ -type f -exec grep -i 'red hat' {} \; | wc -l
[05:14] <gm78> my heads going to explode :P
[05:15] <EvanCarroll> gm78: bash scripting is ugly perl is much sexier
[05:15] <gm78> lol
[05:15] <redbarchetta> hola a todo el mundo
[05:15] <redbarchetta> alguien habla espaol?
[05:15] <redbarchetta> Are you speak in spanish?
[05:16] <thr1ce> nope
[05:16] <miracleblue> gm78: lol thats how i felt when i couldnt get Ubuntu to connect to my DSL connection, then i was just like "screw it" and went on my windows machine, and burned  Roaring Penguin's PPPoE config tool
[05:16] <nobile> redbarchetta hola
[05:16] <redbarchetta> hola nobile
[05:16] <nobile> redbarchetta, si quieres ayuda sobre ubuntu, puedes ir a #ubuntu-es
[05:16] <miracleblue> hola...even though i dont speak spanish
[05:16] <geetergod> Where do i configure my soundcard?
[05:16] <gm78> miracleblue : lol, yeah, i know that feeling. im fairly good with linux ive just never had a use for grep before
[05:16] <redbarchetta> ok
[05:17] <nobile> =)
[05:17] <redbarchetta> gracias
[05:17] <nobile> de nada =)
[05:17] <miracleblue> hm78: im a complete n00b, but by fiddling with the pppd, i learned how to navigate with commands pretty quick
[05:17] <geetergod> Does anyone know where to configure your soundcard?
[05:18] <miracleblue> hm78: I had to re-install Ubuntu twice
[05:18] <maruko`> hey the fluxbux menu ( the menu that appears when i right click ) is very small
[05:18] <miracleblue> hm78: because i screwed little things up when trying to install other things the hard way, then found out about the repository multiverse lol
[05:18] <EvanCarroll> gm78: if you get bored, read 'info coreutil' and learn 5 rows of those commands a night
[05:18] <gm78> miracleblue : you should have seen me with SUSE. probably 5 or 6 reinstalls. then switched to debian/ubuntu on one machine and red hat on the other and they work great
[05:18] <maruko`> the letters just appear as small black boxes
[05:19] <gm78> CentOS actually but yeah
[05:19] <maruko`> and the width of the menu is just double the size of the cursos
[05:19] <IIIEars> miracleblue - can we be n00b pals? (6 weeks)
[05:19] <maruko`> EDIT : err. the width is just the same as the cursor's width
[05:19] <IIIEars> miracleblue - It gets easier - thank god... - lol
[05:19] <boow> whats with this md5 mismatch stuff
[05:20] <Drako60> what would cause DNS servers to respond extremely slowly or not at all, other then a complete server outage
[05:20] <miracleblue> gm78: yeah, my first experience was with the all-easy all-hailed Linspire...i went into its pppoe config tool, and it froze up on me all the time, and i couldnt compile Roraring Penguin cause Linspire didnt have a gcc compiler or anything, because of its click n run thing (theyre just like microsoft, trying to get everyone to use their stuff only, and pay for it too)
[05:21] <gm78> miracleblue : lol, yeah, linspire sucks. i never recommend it to anyone. i actually normally push CentOS cause of its long support cycle (people really care about that i find)'
[05:21] <gm78> and i like ubuntu personally
[05:21] <boow> pay for linux packages?
[05:22] <miracleblue> yeah, pay a monthly fee to subscribe to their repository.  its shit.
[05:22] <boow> lol
[05:22] <gm78> boow : if you are talking about linspire, then yes you do pay for them indirectly. you are actually paying for the service, you can freely redistribute the software, blah blah blah. nice idea....if only it worked like they advertise
[05:22] <maruko`> anyone?
[05:22] <miracleblue> and in return, never be able to compile any free software you download.  i smell a child of gates...
[05:22] <IIIEars> miracleblue - spared linspire by a hairs breadth - couldn't escape the initial walkthrough screens. - 'prolly for the best. - going to change the repository settings fairly quickly after clicking and run
[05:23] <gm78> miracleblue : they do offer gcc i believe, it is just kind of useless cause u dont get any -devel packages unless u buy their developers edition
[05:23] <miracleblue> IIIEars: yeah, that walkthrough is annoying, luckily i found the close button
[05:23] <gm78> if u want something along the lines of linspire, go with xandros
[05:24] <boow> on some of my sources in my sources.list i get md5sum mismatch on some packages whats going on
[05:24] <miracleblue> gm78: i tried downloading and burning a seperate GCC compiler so i could compile RP-PPPoE, but that didnt work for some reason
[05:24] <robert__> Hey, DHCP isn't picking up an IP from my modem, any ideas?
[05:24] <gm78> miracleblue : did u download a gcc binary or the gcc source code? if it was the source code, u need gcc to compile it :P
[05:24] <geetergod> EEEEKKK I HAVE NO SOUND!!!
[05:25] <geetergod> and killall esd isnt working!
[05:25] <miracleblue> gm78: lol, that would make sense :P
[05:25] <IIIEars> miracleblue - bet you spent hours reading the same "How to change linspire repos" sites. - soon after, suse 9.3, mandrake (ugh), knoppix, and FreeBSD (worst)
[05:25] <miracleblue> IIIEars, nope, just tried finding a GCC compiler that would work when i was on my other windows machine.  spend hours, though
[05:25] <gm78> miracleblue : you could also probably use icc, but it probably isnt certified for linspire
[05:26] <robert__> miracleblue: Cygwin?
[05:26] <miracleblue> gm78 yeah, linspire is basically debian minus everything you need.
[05:26] <IIIEars> uroflmao
[05:27] <boow> i've never tried linspire never will now
[05:27] <holycow> heh
[05:27] <thickglasses> i hate computers, ubuntu did something weird so i can't read my files on my external
[05:27] <miracleblue> yeah, i still have my linspire boot CD, i was temped to go back and try again when i couldnt get Ubuntu to play mp3s, after 3 days i did it
[05:27] <holycow> boow no try it if you can, just to see
[05:27] <gm78> boow : smart move
[05:27] <IIIEars> Linspire is a bit like Oz - "Don't pay attention the man behind the curtain" - grin
[05:27] <nomasteryoda> thickglasses, what partition type?
[05:27] <robert__> so does anyone have any ideas why Ubuntu might not be picking up an IP lease from my modem?
[05:27] <nomasteryoda> fat32?
[05:27] <miracleblue> lol, yep, agreed
[05:27] <robert__> no routers, connected directly to my 3com officeconnect cable modem.
[05:27] <hondje> screw linspire, they CHARGE MONEY for gcc
[05:28] <JohnnyQuest> download it illegally
[05:28] <robert__> hondje: only if you install it thru their click n run system
[05:28] <JohnnyQuest> if you want it
[05:28] <miracleblue> yeah, they charge money to subscribe to the repository which is pretty limited compared to debians repositories
[05:28] <robert__> it's free if you apt-get it
[05:28] <robert__> but it still sucks
[05:28] <miracleblue> mm, basically ur paying a monthly fee for the web-based front end, huh?
[05:28] <boow> just install gcc from gnu.org
[05:28] <hondje> It's free lots of ways, but chargin for gcc goes right to the heart of wrongness
[05:29] <miracleblue> i prefer ubuntu anyway, it came with gcc and all i need to compile stuff, and a better repository
[05:29] <gm78> boow : doesnt work. they only offer source code. u need a compiler (icc might work) first to compile gcc
[05:29] <robert__> hondje: why?
[05:29] <robert__> they're charging for access to their repos, not gcc
[05:29] <hondje> robert__: Because gcc is the heart of Gnu, and all that it implies
[05:29] <robert__> they're charging for access to their repos, not gcc
[05:29] <boow> i forgot you need a compiler to compile gcc lol
[05:29] <hondje> They're charging for their click-install thing, the convenience, but its still wrong to me
[05:29] <gm78> hondje : i do disagree with u there, the gpl clearly says u can charge for the software
[05:30] <robert__> yup
[05:30] <robert__> and richard stalmann encourages it
[05:30] <hondje> I know what the gpl says, doesn't mean it's not disgusting
[05:30] <robert__> hondje: so is it wrong for people to charge for cdr's of linux os's too?
[05:30] <chating> hi
[05:30] <miracleblue> mm, but in their repositories, they have lots of free software, which you have to pay the monthly access fee to get access to
[05:30] <hondje> like it's illegal to watch a dvd in linux in the US...it's illegal, but that doesn't mean it's wrong
[05:30] <EvanCarroll> gm78: hrm
[05:30] <hondje> No, of course not
[05:30] <gm78> hondje : thats why u need a value add to charge for it (hint:the system to actually work unlike linspire)
[05:30] <EvanCarroll> gm78: i got bored so i reread grep man page it has a -c option
[05:30] <IIIEars> Despair set in after the second XP install in one month and the fifth linux distro. - got a tip in a windows chat about Ubuntu. Ubuntu has taken over 2 of four machines. the others are just for windows games. (too lazy for cedega) lots of FPS games have ports
[05:31] <chating> where i have get kernel-patch-bootsplash ??
[05:31] <EvanCarroll> gm78: grep -Rci 'red hat' ./dir will work too
[05:31] <hondje> I don't have a big problem with Novell charging for suse, either
[05:31] <robert__> so does anyone have any ideas why my dhcp client isn't picking up any IPs
[05:31] <duken> what repository must be add ?
[05:31] <Drako60> i want to know why my dns isn't working
[05:31] <robert__> hondje: shouldn't, novell and red hat put a lot of money and programmers into open source
[05:31] <JohnnyQuest> why is it illegal to watch dvds in linux?
[05:31] <EvanCarroll> robert__: run tethereal on one console
[05:31] <miracleblue> oh by the way guys, anyone know of a windows emulator for linux so that i can run fruityloops and some games?
[05:31] <EvanCarroll> robert__: then run dhclient on another
[05:31] <hondje> But Novell isn't going to charge you to install gcc and enjoy Freedom, that's what gets me
[05:31] <duken> what repository must be add to get kernel-patch-bootsplash
[05:32] <duken> ?
[05:32] <robert__> JohnnyQuest: DRM
[05:32] <JohnnyQuest> rm?
[05:32] <JohnnyQuest> drm*
[05:32] <robert__> hondje: again, linspire isn't charging you for GCC
[05:32] <EvanCarroll> JohnnyQuest: digital rights managament
[05:32] <flankk> i have php4 from hoary, i see it was compiled without mysql support. is there any way i can get this without having to compile?
[05:32] <robert__> you can still get it free
[05:32] <IIIEars> hondje - generally you get what you pay for. - not a bad thing. there is a notable exception though - wide grin
[05:32] <JohnnyQuest> but i can watch it on my windows?
[05:32] <duken> anyone know?
[05:32] <hondje> robert__: I don't expect you to agree :)
[05:33] <gm78> JohnnyQuest : Sony just has a stick up their ass (excuse my language)
[05:33] <hondje> No one agrees with my stance on downloading movies, either :)
[05:33] <robert__> hondje: I agree with what you're saying, but it's wrong
[05:33] <JohnnyQuest> i agree hondje
[05:33] <hondje> IIIEars: I paid lots for what I get
[05:33] <flankk> anyone?
[05:33] <robert__> they're paying for access to their servers and "support" ;p
[05:33] <JohnnyQuest> i agree on downloading music
[05:33] <miracleblue> ill tell you who has a stick up their ass, bill gates.  he has a stick, and a bunch of hundred dollar notes shoved up there
[05:33] <boow> yea but you buy the software to decode dvds in windows but there are free codecs
[05:33] <robert__> I have 37 RHEL boxes running in our datacenter here in Denver
[05:33] <IIIEars> Ubuntu is Free as in Freedom and as in Free Beer
[05:33] <flankk> miracleblue, troll.
[05:34] <hondje> robert__: there's 1 in my office in Pueblo ;-)
[05:34] <JohnnyQuest> you can get anydvd or dvdshrink and it allows you to do anything with a dvd in windows
[05:34] <zerokills> hey i need to update my video driver. im at the web site now. which should i get:  Linux IA32, Linux IA64, Linux AMD64/EMT64, FreeBSD, or Solaris x64/x86
[05:34] <hondje> JohnnyQuest: you can, but it's technically illegal in the US
[05:34] <JohnnyQuest> ya
[05:34] <hondje> But that doesnt' make it wrong...and it's not against the gpl to charge for gcc, but that doesn't make it right
[05:34] <gm78> miracleblue : yes, but it is sony that is forcing people to cease development on dvd decoders
[05:34] <JohnnyQuest> so is me downloading movies, music, windows, ms office, and my whole computer
[05:34] <robert__> hondje: we're running out of data393 and viawest
[05:34] <robert__> :>
[05:34] <boow> well not copyrighted dvds
[05:35] <flankk> i have php4 from hoary, i see it was compiled without mysql support. is there any way i can get this without having to compile?
[05:35] <miracleblue> gm78, damn, what assholes
[05:35] <hondje> robert__: ah, cool
[05:35] <zerokills> which of the following is Ubuntu considered?:  Linux IA32, Linux IA64, Linux AMD64/EMT64
[05:36] <miracleblue> zerokills: what kinda processor do you have?
[05:36] <gm78> flankk : not everyone who makes a statement u find wrong or disagree with is a troll. Now if miracleblue came on here and said "Ubuntu sucks, SUSE rules" that would be trolling
[05:36] <zerokills> AMD Athlon 1700+
[05:36] <flankk> gm78, now can you answer my question, or are you here to stir up the dust also?
[05:36] <robert__> zerokills: then none of the ones you listed
[05:36] <Sepheebear> zerokills:  Linux IA32
[05:36] <JohnnyQuest> anyone installed mythtv onto unbuntu?
[05:36] <gm78> miracleblue : i believe it was sony who went after libdvdcss and they just now forced someone to cease developing another dvd decryption tool
[05:37] <robert__> hm, I didn't think Itanium ran 32 bit
[05:37] <miracleblue> gm78: ....what complete assholes
[05:37] <IIIEars> Treating all of your customers like theives is good business.
[05:38] <JohnnyQuest> yes it is
[05:38] <IIIEars> < now thats trolling - lol
[05:38] <gm78> flankk : not sure about that....i am more familiar with rpms, where you could rebuild the source rpm adding options. maybe debs have something like this?
[05:38] <miracleblue> IIIEars: amen to that =P
[05:38] <boow> its hard to find libdts nowdays
[05:38] <robert__> hondje: how is Pueblo? I've never been there...
[05:38] <JohnnyQuest> anyone installed mythtv onto unbuntu?
[05:38] <IIIEars> is libdta any good?
[05:38] <nickrud> flankk I think what you want is php4-mysql, it's in universe
[05:38] <IIIEars> is libdts any good?
[05:38] <miracleblue> brb guys, im gonna cook some food
[05:38] <flankk> nickrud, ah thanks, i'll change my sources :)
[05:39] <gm78> JohnnyQuest : god no....have fun with that. that thing is incredibly hard to install. i gave up
[05:39] <boow> if you've had mplayer playing a dts dvd then you know
[05:40] <flankk> nickrud, any idea why it is commented that universe will not recieve security updates, when right below are two security update sources for universe?
[05:41] <IIIEars> ffmpg - is on it's last gasp also see the project page on sourceforge.
[05:41] <nickrud> heh
[05:41] <gm78> IIIEars : why is it on its last breath?
[05:41] <boow> so is mplayer
[05:41] <robitaille> flankk,  universe will receive the odd security update...but they are rare
[05:41] <IIIEars> it was choked to death.
[05:42] <gm78> IIIEars : lol, i mean what killed it. patents, lack of development, etc.?
[05:42] <nickrud> as best I understand it, canonical promises security for main, and provides tools for the motu's to do security for universe
[05:42] <flankk> robitaille, alright. nickrud, thanks, php4-mysql works great. :)
[05:42] <LinuxJones> IIIEars, you should be choked to death :)
[05:42] <hondje> robert__: Not too bad a place to live
[05:43] <hondje> 100k people, so not too small that you have to drive to another town for things, but small enough you dont' have traffic
[05:43] <theshoe> can anyone explain to me how i change refresh rates? in control panel it says: "Your X server does not support  resizing and rotating the display. Please update..."
[05:43] <robert__> Hell, to be honest I couldn't even pick Pueblo out of a map on CO
[05:43] <hondje> robert__: down I-25, other side of the springs
[05:43] <robert__> ahh
[05:43] <robert__> southern co?
[05:43] <robert__> i was thinking eastern, but that's grand junction
[05:43] <hondje> yeah, about 30 miles S. of the springs
[05:44] <geetergod> Is there a way to just reset all your sound stuff?
[05:44] <boow> why become a programmer if theres all these patent restictions
[05:44] <duken> please help me
[05:44] <robert__> hondje: so is it like desert out there?
[05:44] <robert__> we got rain bad today here
[05:44] <robert__> heh
[05:44] <zerokills> ERROR:  You appear to be running an X server; please exit x before installing. For further details... blah blah blah... Anyone know what i should do?
[05:44] <duken> where repository to get bootsplash ?
[05:44] <gm78> duken : with what?
[05:44] <hondje> robert__: semi-arrid, not as bad as the planes, but not as wet as springs/denver
[05:44] <LinuxJones> IIIEars, ffmpg rocks baby !!
[05:44] <geetergod> Is there a way to just reset all your sound stuff?
[05:44] <robert__> denver usually doesn't get as much rain as we've been getting... it's odd
[05:44] <boow> zerokills, telinit 3
[05:45] <duken> i'm use hoary
[05:45] <hondje> Yeah, and we've had less than usual, go figure ;)
[05:45] <zerokills> boow, whats that?
[05:45] <hondje> robert__: Ironically, I'll be up in denver tomorrow
[05:45] <robert__> which town?
[05:45] <LinuxJones> :)
[05:45] <hondje> Denver-denver
[05:45] <robert__> heh, k
[05:45] <boow> switch to runlevel 3 exit the xserver
[05:45] <robert__> lodo?
[05:45] <hondje> Some oil company is paying for me to play in eliches all day
[05:45] <robert__> i'm in Arvada
[05:45] <duken> where i get kernel-patch-bootsplash, bootsplash
[05:45] <geetergod> Is there a way to just reset all your sound stuff?
[05:46] <robert__> lol
[05:46] <robert__> i haven't been to six flags forever
[05:46] <thoreauputic> boow: runlevel 3 doesn't exist by defult in debian distros
[05:46] <hondje> I wouldn't either, $60 a person is retarded
[05:46] <thoreauputic> so that won't work
[05:46] <gm78> geetergod : what do u mean reset ur sound stuff?
[05:47] <geetergod> gm78, i was trying to get my surround speakers to work now i have no sound :(
[05:47] <thoreauputic> zerokills: to exit X , run sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:47] <yonil> Am i the only one with this: gmail.com sends me "certificates" every 2 minutes. i dont even know what it means, and im not surfing to gmail.com ! whats going on ??
[05:47] <geetergod> gm78, i think i did something in Multi Track Internal Clock
[05:48] <gm78> geetergod : sorry, im not sure about that
[05:48] <CarlFK> geetergod - i think your best bet is to try to get them working
[05:48] <geetergod> gm78, my esd doesnt seem to be working
[05:48] <geetergod> CarlFK, how?
[05:49] <geetergod> this has got me bummed right out
[05:49] <theshoe> can anyone explain to me how i change refresh rates? in control panel it says: "Your X server does not support  resizing and rotating the display. Please update..."
[05:49] <CarlFK> geetergod - what does lspci show for your sound card?
[05:49] <robert__> hondje: yeah, my cousins have summer passes
[05:49] <gm78> geetergod : try switching to alsa....i have had nothing but problems with esd...there should be an option for that somewhere in the settings menu under sound
[05:49] <robert__> I got in using one of theirs once since we all look alike
[05:49] <hondje> They msut enjoy it ;)
[05:50] <zerokills> thoreauputic thanks
[05:50] <geetergod> CarlFK, just put a Chaintech 7.1 in it today
[05:50] <geetergod> gm78, i think im on alsa but how do i switch over?
[05:50] <CarlFK> geetergod - what does ->lspci<- show for your sound card?
[05:51] <chombee> Any XFCE users here? I want to know how to get tomboy working. I installed it, but how do I start it in xfce?
[05:51] <geetergod> 0000:00:07.0 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies Inc. VT1720/24 [Envy2 4PT/HT]  PCI Multi-Channel Audio Controller (rev 01)
[05:51] <geetergod> ?
[05:51] <JohnnyQuest> how do i install a program in ubuntu?
[05:51] <geetergod> CarlFK, that?
[05:51] <CarlFK> yeah, that ;)
[05:51] <chombee> JohnnyQuest - use Synaptic Package Manager in the System menu
[05:51] <JohnnyQuest> ok
[05:51] <JohnnyQuest> thank you
[05:52] <geetergod> CarlFK, is that ok?
[05:52] <IIIEars> "System" >> "Administration" .. "Synaptic  Package Manager"
[05:53] <CarlFK> geetergod - yes, looking it up on http://www.alsa-project.org
[05:53] <geetergod> k kool
[05:55] <geetergod> CarlFK, when i type lsof /dev/snd/* in the command line i get...
[05:55] <geetergod> COMMAND    PID      USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME
[05:55] <geetergod> aplay     7304      root  mem    CHR 116,16      8351 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
[05:55] <geetergod> mixer_app 7468 geetergod   36u   CHR  116,0      7633 /dev/snd/controlC0
[05:55] <geetergod> gnome-vol 8386 geetergod   16u   CHR  116,0      7633 /dev/snd/controlC
[05:55] <CarlFK> geetergod - don't paste more than one line
[05:55] <geetergod> sorry, didnt think it'd be that big
[05:57] <miracleblue> nerf
[05:58] <JohnnyQuest> i cant figure out synaptic package manager
[05:58] <JohnnyQuest> i got into the program
[05:58] <geetergod> thanks for helping CarlFK
[05:58] <JohnnyQuest> but, i cant figure out how to install the program i want
[05:59] <CarlFK> geetergod - may want to see http://www.d.kth.se/~vuorio/sound.en.php
[05:59] <JohnnyQuest> it is uncompressed but, i dont know how to install it
[05:59] <CrustyPunk> Hey, this has nothing to do with Ubuntu at all; but does anyone here happen to have Vavoom successfully installed?
[05:59] <geetergod> k
[06:00] <geetergod> CarlFK, the sound was working an hour ago though
[06:00] <skel> whats the best way to get ubuntu to redetect my video hardware again? X -configure doesn't seem to be as accurate as whatever originally ran on install?
[06:00] <CarlFK> geetergod - but something was wrong, else you wouldn't have messed with it ;)
[06:01] <Kirsch> hey guys, how do u reset your Xorg.conf by executing the apt-get
[06:01] <CrustyPunk> skel: did you try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[06:01] <geetergod> CarlFK, surround sound i couldnt get to work
[06:01] <Kirsch> ah, thx CrustyPunk
[06:01] <CrustyPunk> Hah. Awesome.
[06:01] <CrustyPunk> Helped someone without even trying
[06:01] <CrustyPunk> I rock
[06:01] <CrustyPunk> <3
[06:01] <skel> CrustyPunk: yes, and everything seems well though its jittery and it got the wrong sync ranges
[06:02] <CrustyPunk> Oh. Well, then I'm at a loss. I'm a bit of a noob.
[06:02] <skel> CrustyPunk: ok well thanks for the tip anyway =] 
[06:02] <CrustyPunk> Can't you manually set the sync ranges with xserver-xorg?
[06:02] <peloverde> Is anyone else having md5 mismatches?
[06:02] <skel> CrustyPunk: I already manually set them in the xorg.conf, yes though still jittery.. not sure why
[06:03] <CrustyPunk> Mm
[06:03] <CrustyPunk> Well
[06:03] <CrustyPunk> I'm at a loss again
[06:03] <CrustyPunk> Sorry
[06:03] <black13> how i install syslog-ng
[06:03] <black13> apt-get install syslog-ng?
[06:03] <CrustyPunk> black13: apt-cache search syslog
[06:03] <pepsi> hey this is fun :D firefox is broken in breezy now
[06:03] <nemik> besides retrobox.com, does anyone know where i can get really old cheap boxes? preferably in the chicago area...sorry this is so off topic
[06:04] <CrustyPunk> black13: That's to search for the package name
[06:04] <foxiness> hi,how use qemu ? did you tried last ver .07 , is this ver come with kqume bulit-in or what ?
[06:04] <CrustyPunk> black13: And then the command would be apt-get install <package>
[06:04] <foxiness> how - who
[06:04] <black13> apt-cache search syslog-ng returns nada
[06:05] <nemik> black13: make sure you do sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and change to universe in case the basic default ones don't have your package
[06:05] <black13> sure
[06:06] <raz> Anyone ever fixed the "CPU frequency scaling unsupported" that one gets when trying to run the built-in CPU Freq. Monitor? (Pentium-M laptop)..
[06:06] <CrustyPunk> black13: apt-get install syslog-ng should work if you have the correct repositories.
[06:06] <CrustyPunk> black13: Do what nemik said.
[06:06] <CrustyPunk> (After updating, of course_
[06:06] <black13> i have this line: "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[06:07] <nemik> with no # in front of it?
[06:07] <CrustyPunk> Is it commented out?
[06:07] <black13> no it is not
[06:07] <nemik> ok then do apt-get update
[06:07] <nemik> no wait!
[06:07] <black13> no wait it is
[06:07] <black13> dang
[06:07] <CrustyPunk> Take out the #
[06:07] <black13> yep
[06:08] <nemik> us.archive is down like topic says; found that out the hard way today! :D
[06:08] <CrustyPunk> then do "sudo apt-get update"
[06:08] <CrustyPunk> And when that's done
[06:08] <nemik> change to just archive.ubuntu...
[06:08] <nemik> yea then do sudo apt-get update
[06:08] <CrustyPunk> apt-get install syslog-ng
[06:08] <nemik> hehe sorry i'm interrupting you crusty
[06:08] <CrustyPunk> Has anyone here perchance successfully compiled Vavoom?
[06:09] <CrustyPunk> It's okay =P
[06:09] <black13> now running apt get update
[06:09] <nemik> this is so cool! i love linux! just last weekend, i didn't even know what apt-get was! let alone sudo
[06:09] <CrustyPunk> haha
[06:09] <CrustyPunk> apt-get is my hero.
[06:09] <nemik> i'm dead serious
[06:09] <nemik> yea, i agree
[06:09] <CrustyPunk> I'm a bit of a newbie too
[06:10] <CrustyPunk> This is the sixth time (at least) I've installed Ubuntu
[06:10] <CrustyPunk> I keep managing to break it
[06:10] <CrustyPunk> But I think I have the hang of it no.
[06:10] <CrustyPunk> w.
[06:10] <Lafitte-> CrustyPunk,  breaking it how ?    grin
[06:10] <nemik> mine is ok most of the time, but because of stability for what i use it for, i only use the "server" version now
[06:11] <CrustyPunk> Lafitte-: Nubbish stupidity.
[06:11] <nemik> forced me to become quite adept at terminal and shell scripting! :D
[06:11] <Lafitte-> CrustyPunk,   eheh
[06:11] <CrustyPunk> Bleeeeeeeeeeer.
[06:11] <CrustyPunk> I want to play Vavoom D=
[06:11] <Lafitte-> nemik,  nice ::)
[06:11] <nemik> what is vavoom?
[06:11] <black13> Vavoom>
[06:11] <black13> Vavoom?
[06:11] <CrustyPunk> But I dont' want to have to boot to Windows to install the Windows version
[06:12] <CrustyPunk> It's a port of the following games for Linux
[06:12] <CrustyPunk> *finds a list*
[06:12] <CrustyPunk> Doom, Doom II, Strife, heretic, Hexen
[06:12] <nemik> hehe cool!
[06:12] <miracleblue> brb
[06:12] <Lafitte-> id games
[06:13] <Lafitte-> i used to love heretic
[06:13] <nemik> and it probably runs them better on much crappier systems that what they were intended for
[06:13] <CrustyPunk> Doom Shareware, Doom II: TNT Evilution, Doom II: PLutinia Experiment, Heretic shareware, Ultimate Doom
[06:13] <Lafitte-> and hexen
[06:13] <CrustyPunk> basically all the old school ID games
[06:13] <CrustyPunk> BUT IT GETS BETTER!
[06:13] <black13> old school is right
[06:13] <CrustyPunk> There are optional high-res textures
[06:13] <CrustyPunk> AND
[06:13] <CrustyPunk> 3D models
[06:13] <Lafitte-> sweet
[06:13] <nemik> speaking of crappy systems...where do you guys get yours? i'm looking for some 300 - 900 mhz systems...
[06:14] <CrustyPunk> Haha.
[06:14] <CrustyPunk> nemik: I'm running a PII 930 mhz
[06:14] <CrustyPunk> I'm hardcore
[06:14] <nemik> retrobox is super, but shipping at $27.50/box is $$$
[06:14] <boow> i like doomsday
[06:14] <nemik> PII? you mean PIII?
[06:14] <CrustyPunk> Err
[06:14] <CrustyPunk> Yeah
[06:14] <Lafitte-> nemik,  in cali here there is a store who buys out business machines when they are old and restores them up and sells
[06:14] <truz24> I wish flashfxp would get ported to linux
[06:14] <CrustyPunk> I sure do
[06:14] <black13> black13, met john carmack
[06:14] <CrustyPunk> nemik: try newegg.com
[06:14] <CarlFK> nemik - I get P2-333 64meg boxes for about $15 in Chicago
[06:15] <Lafitte-> truz24,  true daT
[06:15] <nemik> i'm in chicago!
[06:15] <zach> im running on a P2 233
[06:15] <CrustyPunk> But anyway, I can't get Vavoom to compile... no one has it installed? D=
[06:15] <nemik> carlFK, where can i get such boxes?
[06:15] <CarlFK> nemik - chi.forsale
[06:15] <CrustyPunk> AH!
[06:15] <CrustyPunk> If anyone's interested
[06:16] <CarlFK> nemik - news group
[06:16] <CrustyPunk> I just found a full list of the ported games as well as the changes
[06:16] <CrustyPunk> http://www.vavoom-engine.com/index.php?Lang=Eng
[06:16] <nemik> damnit! just when i canceled my newsgroup account last month...
[06:16] <nemik> any way to see its articles free?
[06:16] <CarlFK> nemik - I hear http://www.craigslist.org too
[06:17] <CarlFK> nemik - yeah
[06:17] <CarlFK> er
[06:17] <nemik> yea i checked craigslist chi, but overprices (more than ebay) and the good ones don't reply
[06:17] <boow> CrustyPunk, give doomsday a try if you want to play doom they have a linux version
[06:17] <IIIEars> Any Unreal Tournament afficianados here? - grin
[06:18] <robert__> nemik: I think people just get sick of replying to the bs'ers on craigslist. when I listed my car I had about 20 offers. maybe 2 were serious.
[06:18] <CarlFK> nemik - you want watch for Ken in evenston
[06:18] <robert__> I ended up selling it to the gf because they were way below what I wanted for it ;)
[06:18] <scott> can anyone tell me how to change the refresh rate of my monitor? just installed kubuntu and the fglrx drivers and now i cant change refresh rate
[06:18] <IIIEars> boow - tried Doom 3 in linux?
[06:19] <nemik> ken in evanston..this is all good
[06:19] <yccheok> i want to eject my cd rom but no responde, wat i should do?
[06:19] <robert__> yccheok: 'eject cdrom' in shell
[06:19] <robert__> that doesn't work?
[06:19] <boow> doom3 anit running on this six year pc
[06:19] <nemik> now gotta find a way to access chi.forsale....
[06:19] <yccheok> robert__:eject: unable to open `/dev/hdd'
[06:19] <yccheok> i tried, just wont work
[06:20] <boow> tried the leak doom3 5 fp2
[06:20] <robert__> um
[06:20] <robert__> yccheok: in shell, type 'eject cdrom'
[06:20] <boow> tried the leak doom3 5 fps
[06:20] <black13> leak doom3
[06:20] <wondering_jew> hello?
[06:21] <boow> the leaked version
[06:21] <black13> leaked source
[06:21] <black13> or binary
[06:21] <IIIEars> boow - It's very scarey. - though the save game file gets massive fast.
[06:21] <IIIEars> no audio clues for hidden doors like the original.
[06:22] <boow> mabye when i get me a amd 64
[06:22] <nemik> carlFK, thank you so much! found ken, hopefully he's got some left and i can pick some up this weekend
[06:22] <ubuntu> Hi.. I'm runnng ubuntu from live eval now.. but my mouse dont work.. how can I configure my mouse?
[06:22] <ubuntu> device database dont detect too
[06:22] <IIIEars> Hello ubuntu welcome!
[06:23] <boow> is it a usb mouse
[06:23] <ubuntu> nopz
[06:23] <ubuntu> ps2
[06:23] <boow> weird
[06:23] <IIIEars> try - sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg after CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[06:24] <boow> sudo ln -s /dev/psaux /dev/mouse
[06:24] <IIIEars> symlink? - hm
[06:24] <scott> IIIears: didnt work
[06:25] <ekCo_> hey i got a huge problem
[06:25] <ekCo_> i went to install my linux drivers..
[06:25] <ekCo_> and it killed gdm
[06:25] <ekCo_> and all traces of it
[06:25] <ekCo_> im stuck in the terminal..
[06:25] <hondje> your linux drivers?
[06:25] <ekCo_> nvidia drivers soz
[06:25] <boow> try sudo modprobe psmouse too
[06:26] <hondje> ekCo_: /etc/init.d/gdm restart doesn't bring it back up?
[06:26] <bob2> ekCo_: following the howto on the wiki, you mean?
[06:26] <ekCo_> yeah
[06:26] <ekCo_> ok
[06:26] <ekCo_> theres the new drivers
[06:26] <stevedog> i can't install Hoary on my iMac G5
[06:26] <ekCo_> and i went to install via, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx etc
[06:26] <stevedog> its saying "cannot find common CD-rom"
[06:26] <Opzzzz> How cai I install my sux ps2 mouse on Ubuntu?
[06:26] <ekCo_> when i did this, it started removing gdm and gnoem stuff, i thought hey this isn't right
[06:26] <ekCo_> then all of sudden
[06:26] <muttDC> has anyone installed the drivers for an ati radeon 9600xt ??
[06:27] <ekCo_> i crashed and im stuck in terminal
[06:27] <ekCo_> when i try and run gdm
[06:27] <BockBilbo> hey there
[06:27] <ekCo_> it says nothing is found
[06:27] <BockBilbo> is it possible to allow non authentification access to samba shares so no user neither pass has to be introduced?
[06:27] <ekCo_> now it says, gdm command not found..
[06:27] <Opzzzz> How cai I install my sux ps2 mouse on Ubuntu?
[06:27] <ekCo_> what can i do?
[06:27] <boow> Opzzzz, sudo modprobe psmouse
[06:27] <bob2> ekCo_: "new drivers"?
[06:28] <bob2> ekCo_: the packages mentioned on the wiki do not remove gdm
[06:28] <bob2> what EXACTLY did you do?
[06:28] <IIIEars> ekco - "sudo command"?
[06:28] <ekCo_> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[06:28] <gp_aaron> I need to change where my ipod auto mounts, it currently auto-mounts to /media and I want it to mount to /mnt, how do I do this?
[06:28] <ekCo_> and all of sudden, bang everything crashed
[06:28] <gp_aaron> fstab has no entry for my ipod
[06:28] <Davey> anyone know what package aclocal is int?
[06:28] <ekCo_> im in the terminal now, using bitchx
[06:28] <bob2> Davey: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[06:28] <bob2> gp_aaron: "need"? why?
[06:28] <bob2> gp_aaron: it has nothing to do with fstba, gnome-volume-manager does it
[06:29] <Opzzzz> sudo modprobe psmouse didn't work
[06:29] <ekCo_> ok, nvidia drivers seem to be installed.. but their is no traces of gdm
[06:29] <gp_aaron> bob2,
[06:29] <ekCo_> i'll get dmesg for you bob2.
[06:29] <gp_aaron> i got it, thanks though
[06:29] <hondje> then install it again, apt-get install gdm
[06:29] <bob2> ekCo_: why did you let apt remove gdm, anyway?
[06:30] <bob2> ekCo_: and where did you get these packages from?
[06:30] <ekCo_> i didnt notice
[06:30] <kalias> Hi!  Are there any gtk-gnutella users out there?
[06:30] <boow> sudo ln -s /dev/psaux /dev/mouse
[06:30] <gp_aaron> ekCo_, irssi is so much better then bitchx imo
[06:30] <ekCo_> not one of my problems right now
[06:30] <gp_aaron> kalias, i use gtk-gnutella sometimes
[06:30] <ekCo_> ok bob2..
[06:30] <ekCo_> i went to play cs.. using cedega
[06:30] <ekCo_> it crashed
[06:30] <ekCo_> segmentation fault
[06:30] <ekCo_> i then checked glxgears
[06:30] <ekCo_> segmentation fault
[06:30] <ekCo_> then i found i had no nvidia drivers..
[06:31] <raz> <-- noob: why can't I:  mv /Desktop/acpi* /usr/src
[06:31] <ekCo_> so i installed them ysing, 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx'
[06:31] <bob2> raz: because /Destkop doesn't exist
[06:31] <kalias> gp_arron: Hi :) Pleased to meet you :)  The program works for me but in the upper right hand corner there is a small box that says I am firewalled.
[06:31] <bob2> raz: what are you trying to do?
[06:31] <ekCo_> bob2, it then install the drivers
[06:31] <Opzzzz> boow? and after? Did it work quickly?
[06:31] <ApesMa> Looking to install the latest nvidia driver, but when I try to follow advice in Ubuntu forum (uninstall the nvidia-related packages), synaptic tells me that removing nvidia-kernel-common would require removing packages that seem rather essential (linux-386 among others).  Has nvidia 1.0-7664 been made a package that apt-get can install yet?
[06:31] <kalias> gp_arron: Is this important?
[06:31] <ekCo_> and for some gay reason all of gdm then crashed
[06:31] <wondering_jew> "error while loading shared libraries: libiconv.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"?
[06:31] <bob2> ekCo_: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct
[06:31] <raz> bob2, moving a file whose name starts with acpi and is sitting in my desktop to /user/src
[06:32] <ekCo_> i cant view it bob2
[06:32] <Opzzzz> boow? and after? Did it work quickly?
[06:32] <ekCo_> i got no web browser /desktop lol
[06:32] <bob2> ekCo_: also, before this, you were running a normal system, with no silly binary drivers?
[06:32] <wondering_jew> chat the file is there when i searched
[06:32] <bob2> raz: that directory is ~/Desktop
[06:32] <ekCo_> yes bob2
[06:32] <wondering_jew> ooops mud habit
[06:32] <ekCo_> everything was perfect
[06:32] <Davey> bob2: I can't seem to find it, but its a rather fundamental build tool from what I can tell :)
[06:32] <boow> Opzzzz, is it working
[06:32] <Baerd> I have delete de sudoers how can recover new user for sudo?
[06:32] <ekCo_> just how i liked it
[06:32] <kalias> gp_arron: It says I appear to be firewalled both tcp and udp wise.
[06:32] <Opzzzz> no!
[06:32] <bob2> ekCo_: but why are you doing that?
[06:32] <ekCo_> installing nvidia?
[06:32] <ekCo_> no drivers were found..
[06:32] <boow> check your xorg.conf
[06:33] <ekCo_> in xorg it has my video card details
[06:33] <Opzzzz> where is it?
[06:33] <ekCo_> but i have nothing on gdm
[06:33] <bob2> Davey: anyway, it's in automake-X
[06:33] <bob2> ekCo_: so, install the "ubuntu-desktop" package
[06:33] <ekCo_> how?
[06:34] <kalias> nickrud: Hey nickrud :)  How is life?
[06:34] <ekCo_> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?
[06:34] <bob2> ekCo_: indeed
[06:34] <raz> Anyone that ever installed ACPI4Linux, a hand would be appreciated! :D
[06:34] <bob2> raz: what is it?
[06:34] <bob2> raz: ubuntu already has excellent acpi support
[06:34] <ekCo_> will i have my old skins etc?
[06:34] <ekCo_> and settings?
[06:34] <bob2> ekCo_: I don't know what a "skin" is
[06:35] <ekCo_> well theme
[06:35] <bob2> but it won't touch any of your settings
[06:35] <stevedog> i can't install Ubuntu on my G5 iMac, its saying "cannot find a common cdrom"
[06:35] <boow> /etc/X11/xorg.conf look for /dev/psaux
[06:35] <Opzzzz> ok
[06:35] <raz> bob2, well, really? hmm.. my CPU Frequency Monitor tells me "CPU frequency scaling unsupported", any ideas?
[06:35] <ekCo_> ok bob2, it seems to be working
[06:35] <Baerd> I have delete the first user whit privilege for use sudo how can back root ?
[06:35] <ekCo_> lemme look more into this, and i will get back :)
[06:35] <bob2> Baerd: don't do silly things like that in future
[06:36] <bob2> Baerd: reboot and hit esc over and over until you get the grub menu
[06:36] <bob2> Baerd: then select the "recovery" option
[06:36] <Baerd> txn bob2
[06:36] <Baerd> try
[06:36] <bob2> Baerd: then do "adduser username admin", to add username to the admin group, which gives them sudo rights
[06:36] <zerokills> anyone know how to disable sound servers or other applications that may be using sound?
[06:36] <bob2> raz: perhaps your hardware is not yet supported
[06:36] <bob2> raz: I'd be very surprised if recompiling helped, tho
[06:36] <flodine> a guy just got a video card that supports 1900x1200 why wont ubuntu displaythis
[06:36] <bob2> raz: did this used to work?
[06:37] <raz> bob2, under xp, yes.
[06:37] <bob2> flodine: perhaps it's buggy, or your monitor is
[06:37] <bob2> flodine: what sort of video card?
[06:37] <bob2> zerokills: fuser -v /ds
[06:37] <raz> bob2, the cpu freq. monitor? no.
[06:37] <flodine> my monitor is brand new 24 inch dell
[06:37] <bob2> zerokills: er, fuser -v /dev/snd/*
[06:37] <bob2> flodine: are you using a KVM?
[06:37] <zerokills> bob2: k thanks
[06:37] <wondering_jew> im trying to istall e17 using the script in the ubuntu forums, when it trys to build the deb for emotion i get this error "error while loading shared libraries: libiconv.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[06:37] <bob2> zerokills: then kill the pids
[06:37] <flodine> nvidia
[06:37] <bob2> wondering_jew: the script is broken, talk to whoever wrote it
[06:37] <wondering_jew> i found the file with locate...
[06:38] <ekCo_> thanks bob2!!!
[06:38] <flodine> whats kvm
[06:38] <bob2> hah
[06:38] <wondering_jew> k thanks
[06:38] <flodine> bob2 whats KVM
[06:38] <zerokills> bob2: whats the asterisk stand for?
[06:39] <bob2> zerokills: "all files in that directory"
[06:39] <ekCo_> out of curiosity anyone running nvidia 7664 drivers?
[06:39] <hondje> ekCo_: I am, why?
[06:39] <ekCo_> how did you get them running?
[06:39] <ekCo_> i cant seem to when i tried about 2 weeks ago
[06:39] <zerokills> bob2: i typed it in like you said and nothing came up
[06:39] <bob2> zerokills: then nothing is using it
[06:39] <misfit-toy> flodine, kvm - keyboard, video, mouse
[06:40] <bob2> ekCo_: it's really way way better to stay with the ubuntu drivers
[06:40] <zerokills> bob2: sweet, thanks again
[06:40] <ekCo_> im a diplomatic gamer, i must have speed :D
[06:40] <hondje> ekCo_: it's not worth the hastle, unless you have a lot of free time and someone handy who has patience
[06:40] <hondje> I haven't noticed a speedup with them
[06:41] <ekCo_> ok
[06:41] <ekCo_> thanks all
[06:41] <raz> Anyone got the 'CPU Frequency Monitor' to work with Toshiba Laptops?
[06:41] <randabis> hi
[06:41] <bob2> raz: it works for lots of people
[06:41] <raz> bob2, why not me!
[06:42] <bob2> I don't know
[06:42] <CarlFK> raz - it is working on my 6100
[06:42] <bob2> try filing a bug on the linux package in bugzilla
[06:42] <hondje> hey look, /etc/modprobe.d/toshiba_acpi.modprobe thing
[06:42] <raz> bob2, well, maybe its on my end..
[06:42] <raz> hmm
[06:43] <hondje> that's pretty neat
[06:43] <raz> hondje, got that file.. what's neat about it (noobie here)
[06:43] <hondje> raz: That fact that someone cared enough to create it
[06:44] <raz> hondje, ahem.. and is there a way to... say, enabled it?
[06:44] <hondje> I'd imagine it'd be done
[06:44] <hondje> for you
[06:44] <raz> hondje, 'tomaticly?
[06:44] <hondje> raz: That'd be my guess, but I know nothing about laptops
[06:45] <hondje> I installed RH on a hp a couple years back, worked fine, and suse on a thinkpad a month ago, worked fine
[06:45] <raz> hum.
[06:45] <raz> is it possible to 'reinstall' the, say, 'acpu module' of ubuntu?
[06:45] <raz> acpi*
[06:45] <hondje> I don't know
[06:45] <hondje> I don't grok acpi/apm
[06:46] <hondje> I'm not sure what they are, let alone how to mess wtih them :)
[06:46] <boow> acpi whats the problem
[06:46] <stevedog> i can't install Ubuntu on my G5 iMac, its saying "cannot find a common cdrom"
[06:47] <bob2> stevedog: did you try a network install?
[06:47] <stevedog> no,  i don't have the bandwidth
[06:47] <stevedog> and it makes no sense because i can boot from the CD
[06:47] <bob2> no
[06:47] <bob2> I mean, pxeboot
[06:47] <stevedog> uh no
[06:47] <bob2> well, it does make sense if you can't install from the cd :)
[06:47] <boow> raz, whats your acpi problem
[06:48] <raz> boow, well, i guess #1 is that Ubuntu's CPU Freq. Scalling Monitor won't work w/ my system?
[06:48] <zerokills> guys my screen is zoomed in really close. i checked the screen resolution and its what its supposed to be =\
[06:49] <bob2> zerokills: no, it's not
[06:49] <boow> I've never messed with that sorry i cant help
[06:49] <bob2> if you have to scroll around, then your res is not what you think it is
[06:49] <bob2> raz: it's a kernel thing, not a monitor problem
[06:49] <bob2> raz: please file a bug on the "linux" package in bugzilla
[06:50] <concept10> Raz: yeah its a kernel problem, not ubuntu
[06:50] <hondje> zerokills: ctrl-alt-+ (the + on the numpad) help?
[06:50] <raz> bob2, oki.
[06:50] <zerokills> hondje bob2: i just went back into screen res. and set it for a different size, then set it back, that fixed it
[06:51] <hondje> nothing like a random fix
[06:51] <bob2> er
[06:51] <boow> im gonna fire up ie6 in linux and listen to lauch.com
[06:51] <flodine> ok guys dont understan ubuntu cant do 1900x 1200
[06:51] <flodine> i guess it not ready
[06:51] <hondje> flodine: why not?
[06:51] <bob2> flodine: of course it can
[06:52] <bob2> flodine: don't be a stupid troll
[06:52] <geneo93> any idea why i'm getting a md5sum mismatch for libggi2_2.0.5-1ubuntu1_i386.deb
[06:52] <flodine> im trying
[06:52] <flankk> bob2, you're a real prick.
[06:52] <bob2> perhaps it can't autodetect your particular  card
[06:52] <flodine> just gor a new nvidia that supports 1900x1200
[06:52] <bob2> flankk: charming
[06:52] <flodine> is there something im missing
[06:52] <hondje> okay, but is xorg configured to support it?
[06:53] <bob2> x.org supports it fine
[06:53] <hondje> right vert/horiz, nvidia drivers, etc?
[06:53] <bob2> nvidia cards have problems with autoconfiguration under some circumstances
[06:53] <flodine> whats the command to configure it
[06:53] <flodine> foe xorg
[06:53] <bob2> that's unlikely to be the problem
[06:54] <bob2> but 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[06:54] <flodine> bob2 then what should i do
[06:54] <bob2> then you need to configure it manually
[06:54] <flodine> i got a 24 inch and a new card
[06:54] <bob2> which is crap, but it's a known issue
[06:54] <bob2> and will be fixed
[06:54] <bob2> and there's no point saying silly things like " i guess it not ready"
[06:56] <flodine> wow
[06:57] <caonex> is the server backup?
[06:57] <caonex> us ubuntu server?
[06:58] <flodine> if its ready why dont it see my card size
[06:58] <hondje> looks like it
[06:58] <flodine> BOB
[06:58] <caonex> hondje, you talking to me?
[06:58] <hondje> caonex: yes, sorry
[06:58] <caonex> hondje, ok i see, thanks
[06:59] <flodine> can someone help is there anyone running 1900x1200
[06:59] <Davey> Amaranth: Smeg (latest) does not work for me :/
[06:59] <bob2> flodine: stop being so obnoxious
[06:59] <bob2> flodine: I'm sorry it doesn't autoconfigure on your particular setup
[07:00] <bob2> go for it
[07:00] <hondje> Explaining it takes 2 hrs
[07:00] <hondje> 'kernel headers' and refresh rates, yeesh
[07:02] <nootrope> flodine: i'm running 1900x1200 on a 4 year-old no-name laptop
[07:02] <hondje> I also lack your patience, now that I think about it
[07:02] <flodine> and did auto cofig for you
[07:02] <nootrope> yes
[07:03] <flodine> someone point me to a link thats all i want is a how to
[07:03] <bob2> hold on
[07:03] <tsume> breezy rocks and works well! :)
[07:03] <hondje> flodine: ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-7664/README.txt
[07:03] <bob2> I'm trying to find the answer for you
[07:04] <ukato> is there a command to run scripts?
[07:04] <bob2> what do you mean by "scripts?
[07:05] <ukato> i'm probably using the wrong term, because i suck, but
[07:05] <ukato> like a program
[07:05] <bob2> flodine: run ''XORG_SYNC_RANGES=yes sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[07:05] <ukato> binary?
[07:05] <CarlFK> ukato - that is like asking "is there a command to run commands"
[07:05] <bob2> ukato: you just type the name of the program
[07:05] <bob2> ukato: if it's in your $PATH
[07:05] <geneo93> sh maybe what you want
[07:05] <randabis> ukato: .sh scripts can be run with sh foo.sh; executables can be ran with ./
[07:05] <ukato> okay
[07:05] <ukato> that's what i meant, thanks
[07:06] <CarlFK> randabis - why not just ./foo.sh ?
[07:06] <randabis> CarlFK: the script might not be executable
[07:06] <caonex> hello how can i solve this error?:
[07:06] <randabis> you'd have to +x it first
[07:06] <caonex> Reading package lists...
[07:06] <caonex> Building dependency tree...
[07:06] <caonex> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[07:06] <caonex> 1 not fully installed or removed.
[07:06] <caonex> Need to get 0B of archives.
[07:07] <caonex> After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
[07:07] <randabis> bah
[07:07] <synd> caonex: dont flood
[07:07] <caonex> sorry
[07:07] <synd> caonex: use #flood or pastebin.com
[07:07] <caonex> it was not suppose to do that
[07:07] <caonex> when i use /exec -o with xchat
[07:07] <synd> all good
[07:07] <CarlFK> randabis - got it - thanks
[07:07] <caonex> it puts it slowly
[07:07] <caonex> synd, nope that is not all
[07:07] <caonex> synd, #flood then?
[07:08] <synd> caonex: its easier to do pastebin.com
[07:08] <tsume> randabis: I'm a BSDer, breezy is rockin ;)
[07:08] <caonex> ok
[07:08] <caonex> pastebin it is
[07:08] <randabis> tsume: in what way?
[07:08] <tsume> randabis: Us BSDers know how to fix any problems we run into ;)
[07:08] <tsume> randabis: updated software ;)
[07:08] <tsume> randabis: which means.. less running in to bugs with updated software
[07:08] <caonex> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/298766
[07:09] <tsume> xmms or mplayer doesn't work, but oh well
[07:09] <JohnnyQuest> i need some help installing LAME
[07:09] <tsume> I'm a mpg123 guy :)
[07:09] <randabis> using BSD does not necessarily mean one automatically can fix any problem
[07:09] <tsume> randabis: you haven't used BSD any then :)_
[07:09] <tsume> randabis: We BSDers run in to software problems, so we must fix it outselves
[07:09] <randabis> Actually I have run both netBSD and freeBSD off and on
[07:09] <caonex> synd, i posted it
[07:10] <tsume> randabis: BSDers are more capable of figuring out problems than other people just because of experience.
[07:10] <synd> caonex: then you post the URL here
[07:10] <caonex> it is above
[07:10] <caonex> synd i just did
[07:10] <caonex> ;)
[07:10] <caonex> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/298766
[07:10] <synd> and ask as such: "ive got a problem with such and such and here is the pastebin"
[07:10] <JohnnyQuest> im gettting the error permission denied when trying to install LAME
[07:10] <randabis> capability and experience != solve any problem.
[07:10] <tsume> randabis: yes it does
[07:10] <caonex> synd, oh ok sorry i just thought you knew already, next time.
[07:10] <randabis> I does increase the likelyhood of solving a problem however
[07:10] <randabis> it
[07:10] <bob2> JohnnyQuest: you need to give us the whole error, in the #flood channel
[07:11] <JohnnyQuest> ok
[07:11] <bob2> JohnnyQuest: also, there's no need to compile it
[07:11] <tsume> randabis: heck, everyone was piss and moaning about breezy's X being broken when it was just a simple mkfontdir command ;)
[07:11] <tsume> randabis: experienced BSDers can fix any unix related problem ;)
[07:11] <synd> is breezy ok to use, honestly?
[07:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> synd. if you like problems, yes
[07:11] <synd> im a bit discouraged to use it.
[07:11] <tsume> synd: only if you know how to fix bugs/problems
[07:12] <synd> Kamping_Kaiser: no sir
[07:12] <pepsi_> firefox is broken for me in breezy
[07:12] <tsume> Of course, my installation works fine.
[07:12] <tsume> pepsi: mine works ;)
[07:12] <pepsi_> it wnats to install firefox and remove mozilla-firefox
[07:12] <synd> it peeves me when people install breezy and come here for problems fixes
[07:12] <CarlFK> is there an rsync for breezy?
[07:12] <pepsi_> but it pukes when trying to remove mozilla-firefox
[07:12] <synd> problem*
[07:13] <kemiri> hi
[07:13] <JohnnyQuest> any ideas on that probelm?
[07:13] <JohnnyQuest> im a linux noob..
[07:13] <randabis> tsume: heh, fun. I'm just not inclined to play with Breezy at this point. I don't doubt your experience or skill. I'm just saying there is a possibility that you or someone COULD run into a problem that isn't easily solved or unsolvable
[07:13] <tsume> breezy is great for the knowlegable people
[07:13] <synd> god VNC is great
[07:14] <tsume> randabis: all problems are solvable ;)
[07:14] <randabis> It may be very unlikely for that scenario to play itself out, but I'm just saying it is a possible scenario
[07:14] <JohnnyQuest> anyone read my error in the flood channel?
[07:15] <randabis> tsume: to an extent, but that does not mean one will be able to always find the solution
[07:15] <tsume> randabis: Never have run in that problem yet.
[07:16] <zerokills> is Ubuntu 64-bit?
[07:16] <randabis> tsume: and you may never run into that situation. I'm just saying it is possible
[07:16] <tsume> zerokills: the question is... is there a 64-bit build of Linux which Ubuntu is distributing?
[07:17] <hondje> BSDers are excellent at fixing bugs
[07:17] <hondje> After all, they've kept a dying OS alive for years
[07:17] <darius___> so much BSD smack talk
[07:17] <darius___> hahah
[07:17] <zerokills> tsume- all i know is i need a 32-bit distro to get this game to work
[07:18] <JohnnyQuest> all i want is to learn how to intsall simple things....
[07:18] <hondje> JohnnyQuest: have you tried using synaptic?
[07:18] <zerokills> johnnyquest: what are you trying to install?
[07:18] <tsume> JohnnyQuest: you must learn about aptitude. apt-get, apt-cache, etc.
[07:18] <JohnnyQuest> ya
[07:19] <caonex> synd, any ideas?
[07:19] <JohnnyQuest> im trying to install LAME
[07:19] <JohnnyQuest> i compiled it
[07:19] <JohnnyQuest> i did make
[07:19] <JohnnyQuest> and then make install didnt work
[07:19] <zerokills> sudo apt-get install lame
[07:19] <tsume> hondje: actually, NetBSD is great. The reason NASA used NetBSD instead of linux is for the stability and security.
[07:19] <caonex> Do you want to continue [Y/n] ?
[07:19] <hondje> tsume: You know better than to feed the troll! :)
[07:19] <tsume> hondje: there are a few dumb terms running linux in the international space station(ISS), but thats the extent of linux
[07:20] <tsume> hondje: yes it do, but I like backing up my statements with facts.
[07:20] <hussam> does the firefox in backports-staging have the latest security fix regarding the frames?
[07:20] <tsume> the ISS runs NetBSD :)
[07:20] <randabis> NetBSD will also run on just about any old computer out there
[07:20] <hondje> You want facts? How about netcraft confirming it? :)
[07:20] <tsume> randabis: any computer, new and old.
[07:21] <tsume> randabis: I can see you are not experienced and (forgive me for saying) speaking out of your ass.
[07:21] <JohnnyQuest> unable to lock the administration directory
[07:21] <randabis> tsume: yes, but in the context of nasa, their hardware tends to be archaic
[07:21] <JohnnyQuest> i got that erorr from that comand zero
[07:21] <tsume> JohnnyQuest: oh, you are completely new to linux?
[07:21] <JohnnyQuest> ya
[07:21] <randabis> I wasn't dogging netbsd with that comment
[07:21] <tsume> randabis: no, NASAs ISS technology is top of the line.
[07:21] <tsume> randabis: go visit the center where they build the pieces and see for yourself.
[07:22] <randabis> well the ISS stuff probably is
[07:22] <randabis> I was more referring to the older stuff at the space centers, but I digress
[07:22] <randabis> I wasn't meaning to insult bsd in any way
[07:22] <tsume> randabis: you completely missed what I said then. the ISS runs NetBSD, and a couple dumb linux terms for client controllers
[07:23] <darius___> who cares - NASA uses of a lot of OS's for a lot of things
[07:23] <darius___> as do many companies
[07:23] <darius___> and mission critical applications
[07:23] <tsume> JohnnyQuest: you must use superuser access. use sudo
[07:23] <darius___> I've never seen a bigger BSD troll
[07:23] <JohnnyQuest> how do i do that?
[07:23] <tsume> darius___: on the ground centers yes. The ISS runs NetBSD
[07:23] <darius___> and I'm a BSD fan
[07:25] <tsume> JohnnyQuest: sudo apt-get...
[07:25] <tsume> ;)
[07:25] <JohnnyQuest> didnt work
[07:26] <caonex> what is the line in sources.list to be able to install the java runtime ?
[07:26] <Lafitte-> tsume,  need to set root password first?
[07:26] <JohnnyQuest> but sudo make install did work
[07:26] <tsume> Lafitte-: what? no
[07:26] <tsume> Lafitte-: root is disabled
[07:26] <bob2> JohnnyQuest: so, why are you compiling lame at all?
[07:26] <pobstil> hey, with sftp, how do you put a folder, and all it's contents, including other folders
[07:26] <JohnnyQuest> im installing mythtv
[07:26] <JohnnyQuest> thats teh only reason im using linux
[07:26] <tsume> JohnnyQuest: oh hell..
[07:26] <bob2> JohnnyQuest: there's no need to compile it
[07:26] <tsume> oh fuxk..
[07:26] <tsume> JohnnyQuest: thanks
[07:26] <Lafitte-> tsume,  oh   i set password for mine  and su....i didnt know that hehe
[07:27] <bob2> JohnnyQuest: just install the lame package
[07:27] <tsume> I fucking forgot about a date I had with a mythtv setup
[07:27] <tsume> damn :)
[07:27] <bob2> pobstil: probably easier to just use rsync
[07:27] <JohnnyQuest> well i got it compiled and installed now i think..
[07:27] <JohnnyQuest> i dont know how to check
[07:27] <FR500> hello
[07:27] <JohnnyQuest> but i did make install and go no errors
[07:27] <pobstil> I'm not asking how to do it another way, I'm asking how to do it this way...
[07:28] <bob2> pobstil: why?
[07:28] <Lafitte-> what is mythtv ?
[07:28] <pobstil> I know you can do put /home/pobstil/*  but that wont do the folders
[07:28] <JohnnyQuest> its a program to use for a hometheatre system
[07:28] <FR500> not ubuntu related, but i gotta tell this to someone, i just drove a new M5, and after killing an F360 Spider i gotta say that thing rocks!!!!
[07:28] <FR500> you cant imagine my grin now
[07:28] <psychonate|away> How do I find the BusID for my video card?
[07:28] <Lafitte-> MythTV is a homebrew PVR project
[07:29] <JohnnyQuest> ya
[07:29] <JohnnyQuest> and im tryin to install that
[07:29] <tsume> JohnnyQuest: you might want to use the Knoppix MythTV install
[07:29] <JohnnyQuest> i used that
[07:29] <JohnnyQuest> i didnt like it
[07:29] <tsume> JohnnyQuest: its hell to set up
[07:29] <nalioth> howdy y'all
[07:29] <JohnnyQuest> well, knoppix was hell to change settings
[07:30] <JohnnyQuest> ubuntu is a lil easier to use for me..
[07:30] <tsume> JohnnyQuest: wait until you set up mythtv from scratch, its not already setup
[07:30] <muttDC> question: how can i "desinstall" a fglx driver i already installed?
[07:30] <Lafitte-> guys    mythtv in in apt-get
[07:30] <Opppz> My ps2 mouse don't work.. I change xorg.conf.. and reboot.. but.. nothing! What can I do?
[07:30] <Lafitte-> rofl
[07:31] <bob2> muttDC: remove the packages you installed
[07:31] <tsume> Lafitte-: thats the older myth
[07:31] <randabis> depends on how you installed the fglx driver I suppose
[07:31] <tsume> I recommend using mythtv from the mythtv cvs
[07:31] <bob2> muttDC: if you installed it from source, read the instrucions
[07:31] <bob2> but it may not be posssible\
[07:31] <tsume> more features
[07:31] <muttDC> ok, thanks
[07:31] <funky> hi
[07:31] <Lafitte-> tsume,  wont work ??
[07:32] <JohnnyQuest> im trying the cvs myth
[07:32] <Opppz> My ps2 mouse don't work.. I change xorg.conf.. and reboot.. but.. nothing! What can I do?
[07:32] <tsume> Lafitte-: CVS version of mythtv has more features
[07:32] <JohnnyQuest> im actually gonna head to bed
[07:32] <JohnnyQuest> its late
[07:32] <funky> what is the comress format that is compressed ubuntu's initrd ?
[07:32] <xbaxe> hello all....
[07:32] <tsume> Lafitte-: and less bugs
[07:32] <JohnnyQuest> but, thanx for the help
[07:32] <Lafitte-> tsume,  oic
[07:32] <funky> i can uncompress it
[07:32] <funky> cant*
[07:32] <Lafitte-> nice software to have
[07:32] <funky> normally is gzipped
[07:32] <tsume> Lafitte-: I couldn't call mythtv releases stable..
[07:33] <bob2> funky: it's just a cramfs image
[07:33] <bob2> funky: what are you planning to do?
[07:33] <Lafitte-> tsume,  aww
[07:33] <JovenComunista> why i can't install the vlc ???
[07:33] <funky> bob2: i would like to modify the apm load at booting time
[07:33] <funky> i dont want it tries to load apm.ko
[07:34] <Opppz> My ps2 mouse don't work.. I change xorg.conf.. and reboot.. but.. nothing! What can I do?
[07:34] <funky> bob2: thanks i have mounted the initrd
[07:35] <Lafitte-> Opppz, what kind of mouse is it ??
[07:35] <Opppz> I change the "/dev/input/mice"  to " /dev/psaux" and nothing
[07:35] <Opppz> ps2 mouse... very old!! hehehe
[07:35] <bob2> funky: you don't need to fiddle the initrd to do that
[07:35] <Lafitte-> Opppz, i would leave it alone whatever it defaults too
[07:35] <jtorgers> why are there so many md5 mismatches today?
[07:36] <funky> bob2: then, how can i get that ?
[07:36] <bob2> funky: to make it not load apm?
[07:36] <funky> bob2: yes
[07:36] <nalioth> Opppz: if someone knows the ansnwer to your question, they will answer
[07:36] <funky> Im using acpi
[07:36] <bob2> funky: er, acpi is loaded by default
[07:36] <clee> wtf
[07:36] <clee> why does breezy turn on HashKnownHosts by default?
[07:36] <funky> i know, but it tries to load apm.ko too
[07:36] <bob2> it's cleetastic
[07:37] <clee> (hi, bob2)
[07:37] <clee> (I'm bitching about ssh_config, btw)
[07:38] <yccheok> anyone had tried the g++4.0? seems very very buggy
[07:38] <bob2> how so?
[07:38] <bob2> funky: "it" = hotplug?
[07:40] <hondje> clee: Why don't you like that?
[07:40] <Lafitte-> is that how you do it   /ignore Opppz!*.*     ??
[07:40] <bleck> hello, does anyone know how to change the default port of the vnc remote desktop server?
[07:40] <funky> bob2: no, i have tried to blacklisted it, but it still tries to load
[07:41] <bob2> funky: what problem does it trying to load cause?
[07:41] <bob2> it'll just be refused
[07:41] <funky> stetic problem :P
[07:41] <nalioth> hondje: you still awake?
[07:41] <funky> sorry for my english
[07:41] <funky> stetic ? you know ?
[07:41] <funky> maybe i have invented that word
[07:41] <hondje> nalioth: yep
[07:42] <funky> apparence problem, i dont like see crap lines at booting time
[07:44] <bob2> stetic isn't a word
[07:44] <funky> aesthetic
[07:44] <funky> esttico = aesthetic
[07:44] <clee> hondje: because I have a really sweet zsh completion that uses my ~/.ssh/config
[07:44] <bob2> right
[07:44] <tsume> zsh > *
[07:44] <clee> hondje: automatically provides hosts based on the IPs and the hostnames from ~/.ssh/config and ~/.ssh/known_hosts
[07:44] <tsume> the shell of gods
[07:45] <hondje> clee: ah :)
[07:46] <randabis> damn this is weird
[07:47] <randabis> I'm getting md5sum mismatches all over the place in apt
[07:47] <FR500> what are good sites for linux games?
[07:48] <nomasteryoda> FR500, sites?... look in synaptic
[07:48] <FR500> nomasteryoda, lol, there aren't big big games there
[07:48] <nomasteryoda> FR500, bzflag
[07:49] <synd> FR500: usually people pay for "big big games"
[07:49] <FR500> i meant etf and alike
[07:49] <nomasteryoda> also Enemy Territory
[07:49] <nomasteryoda> both free
[07:49] <FR500> synd, http://www.happypenguin.org/
[07:49] <nomasteryoda> course you need a good video card
[07:49] <FR500> i pay too
[07:49] <nomasteryoda> yea
[07:49] <nomasteryoda> Doom3 ...
[07:49] <nomasteryoda> runs sweet on a 256mb nvidia
[07:49] <errr> does anyone know the package name which provides the automake and autotools and what not needed to build packages from source. I thought it was called build tools, or build utils but I dont see either one, and I hate to have to pick each package 1 by 1...
[07:50] <nalioth> errr: build-essential
[07:50] <errr> ahh thats the one thanks :)
[07:50] <nalioth> have fun compiling (don't forget the checkinstall <for last resorts>)
[07:51] <errr> thanks :)
[07:51] <bigbill52a> does anyone know why some of my packages are not downloading
[07:51] <bob2> errr: that doesn't install automake or anything, tho
[07:51] <bob2> since you don't need them to compile source
[07:51] <bill__> just did the whole update package just fine
[07:51] <bigbill52a> using the sources.list from the unofficial guide
[07:51] <bill__> on a new install
[07:52] <bob2> I wish the unofficial guide wouldn't encourage people to do that
[07:52] <bill__> first time w/ ubuntu :-)
[07:52] <thechitowncubs> i've been wondering, is it easier to develop for Linux or Windows?
[07:52] <synd> anyone know of any good RPG games for linux?
[07:52] <bob2> synd: falcons eye?
[07:52] <FR500> Stendhal looks gun
[07:52] <FR500> fun
[07:52] <bob2> thechitowncubs: entirely subjective
[07:52] <randabis> heh
[07:53] <bob2> lots of people find developing windows to be shockingly painful
[07:53] <bob2> (e.g. me ;)
[07:53] <bill__> thers a site that tells the compatible games
[07:53] <errr> bob2: me too!!
[07:53] <synd> bob2: whats the sys requirments for that?
[07:53] <randabis> us.archive.ubuntu.com has some md5sum mismatches going on...using archive.ubuntu.com fixed my problem
[07:53] <nalioth> thechitowncubs: its cheaper to dev for linux
[07:53] <bill__> cant remember  though
[07:53] <FR500> bill__, no game is compatible without cedega or wine
[07:53] <bob2> synd: I don't know
[07:53] <bigbill52a> it was working till this afternoon...thanks
[07:53] <thechitowncubs> nalioth: i think everything is cheaper on nix :)
[07:54] <bill__> k
[07:54] <bill__> thanks
[07:54] <bill__> im a nooc, can you tell
[07:54] <nomasteryoda> and cedega is pretty good
[07:54] <thechitowncubs> I wonder why google hasn't developed software for linux then
[07:54] <nomasteryoda> also crossover office
[07:54] <nalioth> thechitowncubs: come on, don't you love the $2500 msrp for the full Visual Crap STupidio from M$?
[07:54] <nomasteryoda> esp for shockwave web games
[07:54] <clee> btw, if anybody wants the zsh line that totally rules (when you turn off HashKnownHosts):
[07:54] <zerokills> im having problems with Cedega
[07:54] <clee> zstyle -e ':completion::*:hosts' hosts 'reply=($(sed -e "/^#/d" -e "s/ .*\$//" -e "s/,/ /g" /etc/ssh_known_hosts(N) ~/.ssh/known_hosts(N) 2>/dev/null | xargs) $(grep \^Host ~/.ssh/config(N) | cut -f2 -d\  2>/dev/null | xargs))'
[07:54] <FR500> i think some game companies will start using wine or cedega soon to provide compatibilty
[07:54] <thechitowncubs> they need to lead the industry into linux
[07:54] <thechitowncubs> ya nalioth, thats insane
[07:54] <bob2> thechitowncubs: because there's little need to
[07:55] <bill__> yes they will
[07:55] <thechitowncubs> there won't be soon
[07:55] <bob2> thechitowncubs: linux orbwsers have the most important bits of the google toolbar by default
[07:55] <FR500> thechitowncubs, why not?
[07:55] <bill__> almost all my friend are on linux now
[07:55] <thechitowncubs> because linux is getting popular
[07:55] <bob2> thechitowncubs: there are other gmail applets on linux
[07:55] <bob2> etc
[07:55] <bill__> yepper
[07:55] <thechitowncubs> bob2: im talking about software such as Hello
[07:55] <bob2> thechitowncubs: which is?
[07:55] <thechitowncubs> or picasa (even f-spot is on the way)
[07:55] <thechitowncubs> its a photo sharing application
[07:56] <FR500> good game for linux: http://www.nexuiz.com/
[07:56] <thechitowncubs> www.hello.com
[07:56] <FR500> it rocks
[07:56] <bill__> whats a good mp3 player for ubuntu ??
[07:56] <synd> bill__: xmms
[07:56] <errr> fspot is sweet, isnt it in mono?
[07:56] <FR500> bill__, i like beep better
[07:56] <bill__> k
[07:56] <thechitowncubs> ya, it is
[07:56] <bill__> thanks
[07:56] <errr> mono is cross platform
[07:57] <FR500> bill__, it's same as xmms but i find it more user friendly
[07:57] <bill__> how bout i try em both
[07:57] <errr> the demos of mono I have seen they take code straight from windows to linux changing nothing
[07:57] <nalioth> bill__: thats the wonderful thing about linux, it's all free
[07:57] <bill__> yes i need user friendly
[07:57] <FR500> bill__, beep is a fork or xmms
[07:57] <funky> errr: you can launch monodevelop from ubuntu rep. correctly ?
[07:57] <bill__> k
[07:57] <nalioth> bill__: so while you're trying "beep media player" and xmms, try rhythmbox and amarok, too
[07:58] <nalioth> bill__: not to forget mpg123
[07:58] <bill__> kool
[07:58] <thoreauputic> bill__: they are quite similar - beep-media-player looks better, xmms has more available plugins
[07:58] <errr> funky: Im not sure to be honest. I have only seen a couple demos at LUG meetings and I am always late to them...
[07:58] <bill__> anything 4 making digital tunes with ?
[07:58] <bill__> like fruity loops
[07:58] <bob2> bill__: sweep, terminatorx, etc
[07:58] <geneo93> help W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libg/libggi/libggi2_2.0.5-1ubuntu1_i386.deb
[07:58] <geneo93>   MD5Sum mismatch
[07:58] <funky> errr: ok
[07:58] <thoreauputic> bill__: for midi etc,, rosegarden4
[07:58] <bill__> sweet
[07:59] <bill__> thats all i do wthis pc
[07:59] <errr> funky: but the 2 demos I saw the guy doing them was using horay
[07:59] <bill__> tunes n gaming
[07:59] <thoreauputic> bill__: audacity is also a nice audio editor
[07:59] <FR500> btw, what is a "fork"
[07:59] <thechitowncubs> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/picasa/browse_thread/thread/21c7f07d858156a2/eb82c71206d1b022?q=linux&hl=en#eb82c71206d1b022
[07:59] <Madpilot> evening, all.
[07:59] <nomasteryoda> and ampache is a nice music server =)
[08:00] <bill__> damn, thanks for the input
[08:00] <errr> gnump3d is also nice for streaming your music collection I love it on my LAN
[08:00] <thoreauputic> bill__: if you like shoutcast, check streamtuner and streamripper
[08:00] <Madpilot> for just playing music, give Muine a shot - it's in the repos for Ubuntu as well...
[08:00] <bill__> cant find a xp chat that people are so nice on
[08:00] <bigbill52a> that did fix it..i appreciate the help
[08:00] <nalioth> FR500: a fork is when someon takes the source code, runs away in another direction then the original code writer(s)
[08:00] <nomasteryoda> yea, gnump3d is simple to setup, but ampache is awesome! ... #ampache
[08:01] <bill__> mr gates can go fdisk himself
[08:01] <nalioth> FR500: sorta like the theory of evolution
[08:01] <thoreauputic> bill__: that's the Ubuntu philosophy :)
[08:01] <bill__> 10-4
[08:01] <nomasteryoda> bill__, could not have said it better myself
[08:01] <Madpilot> thoreauputic: although I think most ppl express it a bit more... politely... most of the time, anyway...
[08:01] <Madpilot> :)
[08:01] <FR500> nalioth, ok
[08:01] <thechitowncubs> lol bill
[08:01] <geneo93> no comment
[08:01] <bill__> gone just about as far as i can go w/ ms
[08:02] <foxiness> can i'm create folder with name like this ????? ????
[08:02] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: I meant the niceness, not the Bill * comment :)
[08:02] <Madpilot> thoreauputic: oh, sure... :p
[08:02] <thoreauputic> ;-)
[08:02] <bill__> lol
[08:02] <nomasteryoda> hehe
[08:02] <nalioth> bob2, thoreauputic y'all know any 0-conf apps (like Apple Rendevous)?
[08:03] <bill__> a little slipknot, too much coffe, i'm good
[08:03] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: I'm sure Mr gates is a member of the human community... oh, wait, did I say that *g* ?
[08:03] <bigbill52a> the ati driver that is in restricted is for xfree and not xorg
[08:03] <bill__> bite your tounge
[08:04] <bill__> so far im really impressed w/ this OS
[08:04] <bigbill52a> restricted modules...if anyone needs help on installing the ati driver just pm
[08:04] <synd> bill__: thats why its #1 on distrowatch.com : )
[08:04] <bill__> need to get the books though
[08:05] <bill__> i hear that
[08:05] <bill__> tried suse
[08:05] <nalioth> anyone know of any zero-configuration tools for linux (like Apple's Rendevous)
[08:05] <bill__> major headache
[08:05] <foxiness> i have backup.tgz and it content "/media/????? ????/backupishere" and if i do tar xvpfz backup.tgz , will it give me error and i can not create it by hand from GUI is there away around this?
[08:06] <randabis> suse = stupid useless system express
[08:06] <randabis> :p
[08:06] <bill__> been spoiled w point n clickers
[08:06] <foxiness> randabis, :)
[08:06] <randabis> j/k suse isn't horrible...other than yast
[08:06] <bill__> gotta get back to basics
[08:07] <Madpilot> can someone remind me how to check the md5sum on a download? want to burn Hoary ISOs, but need to check the d/l first
[08:07] <bill__> that damn kmail wont work at all
[08:07] <foxiness> md5sum file
[08:07] <paul_> hey, is anyone getting md5sum file errors?
[08:07] <synd> paul_: i have been
[08:07] <randabis> paul_: I was
[08:07] <foxiness> and than it will give you some out put
[08:07] <nomasteryoda> bill__, try running from terminal
[08:07] <nalioth> bill__: try evolution or sylpheed
[08:07] <synd> paul_: with marrilat or whatever
[08:08] <randabis> I changed sources.list though and fixed it
[08:08] <bill__> using ev. now
[08:08] <bill__> like a charm :-)
[08:08] <randabis> I changed us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com
[08:08] <paul_> alright, im gonna try that now
[08:08] <Madpilot> foxiness: thnx, Terminal seems to be chugging thru that now
[08:08] <randabis> marillat is messed up too, don't have a fix for that yet
[08:08] <bigfoot1> hello, I'm new to linux/ubuntu. Sometimes my computer runs slow, and I believe it's caused by a high IOwait level, as seen in the systems monitor applet. Can anyone tell me what influences high IOwait? And can something be done about it? Thank you.
[08:09] <thechitowncubs> What do you guys recommend to learn how to program? Where should i start learning?
[08:09] <yonil> anyone here got amule running ? i dont seem to be able to get the server list ..
[08:10] <foxiness> Madpilot, np
[08:10] <thoreauputic> thechitowncubs: bash :)
[08:10] <synd> yonil: you should try gtk-gnutella
[08:10] <nemik> where do usb ports appear? in /dev/...?
[08:10] <Madpilot> thechitowncubs: start with HTML & CSS? it's not "really" programming, but it'll get you thinking in the right way, mostly.
[08:10] <spunout> thechitown, program in what?
[08:10] <thechitowncubs> I have pretty basic knowledge of html and css
[08:10] <yonil> synd, why ? is it the same protocol as *mule ?
[08:10] <spunout> thechitown, php is good
[08:10] <thechitowncubs> i don't really want to develop for web applications
[08:11] <synd> yonil: amule is p2p, correct?
[08:11] <thechitowncubs> how did YOU people learn to program?
[08:11] <spunout> thechitown, get your self some ebooks from the usenet
[08:11] <paul_> synd: thanks a lot!
[08:11] <paul_> it works now
[08:11] <yonil> synd, yeah, but i need amule servers, not other servers ..
[08:11] <nemik> chitown, i am also in chitown, started with PHP and mySQL. read tutorials and hung out in #php on quakenet a lot
[08:12] <Madpilot> thechitowncubs: I haven't, yet :) aside from HTML/CSS and "Hello World" in PHP...
[08:12] <bill__> noob w/ a capital N, thats me
[08:12] <synd> yonil: oh i see.
[08:12] <spunout> oregon state has an ed2go program, with pretty decent stuff...online classes
[08:12] <Madpilot> any book by OReilly or Peachpit, that's my default starting point!
[08:12] <synd> paul_: howd i help you ?
[08:12] <synd> paul_: either way, ill take the thanks : )
[08:12] <thechitowncubs> i know OF all the programming languages, but i want to know where to start specifically, what do you guys recommend
[08:12] <thoreauputic> bill__: the sooner you stop labelling yourself "noob". the sooner you will cease to be one
[08:12] <thoreauputic> :)
[08:13] <nemik> chitown, i recommend PHP
[08:13] <paul_> sorry, synd. I was thanking the wrong person :(  thanks Randabis!
[08:13] <thechitowncubs> i don't really want to develop for web applications
[08:13] <synd> paul_: no prob
[08:13] <spunout> well, what do you want to develop for?
[08:13] <nemik> ahh then...java?
[08:14] <bill__> k, im a work in progress
[08:14] <bill__> :-)
[08:14] <thoreauputic> bill__: much better ! :)
[08:14] <randabis> np paul_
[08:14] <bill__> TY
[08:14] <thechitowncubs> Simple useful applications
[08:15] <thechitowncubs> I just want to learn the basics
[08:15] <thechitowncubs> as of now
[08:15] <nemik> ummmm
[08:15] <bill__> this is litarrly my firs time actually using linux !!
[08:15] <nemik> right now for me, web dev is more useful for me than any non-web apps
[08:15] <nomasteryoda> bill__, congrats then dude
[08:16] <thoreauputic> thechitowncubs: I think bash scripts are a good place to start personally: have a look at the Xdialog and Zenity GUI kits
[08:16] <nomasteryoda> nvu
[08:16] <nemik> simply because if its on the net,i can use and access my data anywhere
[08:16] <nemik> perl is also a great beginner language
[08:16] <bill__> dont know why i waited so log
[08:16] <bill__> long
[08:16] <ardob11> what software would you recommend for web authoring on linux, I used Dreamweaver on Windows
[08:16] <nemik> nvu, right?
[08:17] <thoreauputic> ardob11: start with nvu or mozilla-composer
[08:17] <ardob11> ok then
[08:17] <MattAndreas> So anyone found an Ardour package for ubuntu?  That, failing, some other packages studio software?
[08:17] <MattAndreas> packaged, even  :)
[08:17] <ardob11> how is it compared to dreamweaver, any idea?
[08:17] <turf> can any one direct me to how i can play avi from my totem, i can only hear the sound but not the image. i already visited http://powerpc.ubuntuguide.org/ and no lack
[08:17] <spunout> quanta plus?
[08:17] <nemik> but authors are for pussies. nano is all you need! :D
[08:17] <MattAndreas> heh
[08:18] <spunout> Ardour is in backports or marillat or something...
[08:18] <nemik> or emacs if you wanna be fancy ;)
[08:18] <nalioth> nemik: hear! hear!
[08:18] <spunout> im a vi guy
[08:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> what about screem
[08:18] <MattAndreas> not backports...
[08:18] <nalioth> turf: you are on a PPC?
[08:18] <MattAndreas> I'll try marillat
[08:18] <bill__> K  my new UBUNTU friends, good night chat at'cha later
[08:18] <turf> naderman: yap
[08:19] <nemik> see ya bill__ and enjoy this!
[08:19] <bill__> ty 4 the help
[08:19] <turf> yap!
[08:19] <spunout> maybe rarewares, for ardour
[08:19] <thoreauputic>  apt-cache policy ardour-gtk 500 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages
[08:19] <spunout> I just apt-getted ardour-gtk, but had some issues...
[08:19] <thoreauputic> it's in universe
[08:19] <nalioth> turf: i recommend you find some reliable deb-src archives
[08:19] <paul_> anyone able to guide me through installing a printer (windows network) on my machine? :)
[08:19] <turf> nalioth,: ibook clam shell type to be ecact
[08:19] <MattAndreas> spunout: what issues?
[08:19] <nalioth> turf may a pm you?
[08:20] <paul_> i attempted to install, but it apparently didnt work
[08:20] <turf> nalioth: sure
[08:20] <spunout> I use the sources.list from the unofficial ubuntu guide, and it does me right
[08:21] <jeld> hi all
[08:21] <com> 
[08:21] <jeld> are there any problems with the repositories at the moment?
[08:21] <synd> spunout: i do too
[08:21] <spunout> yes it htink there are
[08:21] <thoreauputic> jeld: it's in the /topic
[08:21] <spunout> or were
[08:22] <MattAndreas> spun: what issues did you have with ardour?
[08:22] <jeld> thoreauputic, oh, that sucks
[08:22] <nalioth> synd: you big liar, you are a pure src compiler!
[08:22] <spunout> MattAndrea: imlib didn't install right, said something about the md5sums not adding up
[08:22] <MattAndreas> did it run?
[08:22] <spunout> andd gtk-imlib
[08:23] <spunout> no
[08:23] <MattAndreas> hrm..
[08:23] <nemik> spunout: change the sources.list
[08:23] <spunout> nemik, to what?
[08:23] <nemik> well its probably to us.archives or ca.archives which are down (check topic)
[08:23] <synd> nalioth: thats right, i forgot :>
[08:23] <nemik> so just do http://archives....
[08:23] <MattAndreas> I'm hoping to make my ubuntu box my jukebox and audio recording station
[08:24] <spunout> MattAndrea, so you use Amarok for the Jukebox?
[08:24] <MattAndreas> I intend to
[08:24] <bigbill52a> just delete us on each entry....
[08:24] <MattAndreas> just getting going with this system
[08:24] <synd> bob2, thoreauputic: do you all know of any zero-conf. networking apps such as Apple's rendezvous/bonjour
[08:24] <synd> ?
[08:25] <bob2> synd: rendezvous more or less works on linux
[08:25] <spunout> amarok works great, I love the way it crossfades automatically and suggests songs for playing based on the ones you are playing and have played
[08:25] <nemik> i know menage a trois ;)
[08:25] <nalioth> synd: i think they've gone to bed, i asked em whallago
[08:25] <bob2> you need to be more specific about what you want it to do, tho
[08:25] <MattAndreas> spun: cool.  Now I just want to get the recording part decided
[08:25] <nalioth> bob2 ya didnt see it when I asked whallago?
[08:25] <MattAndreas> if ardour won't work, I need something else
[08:25] <bob2> I did indeed
[08:25] <MattAndreas> or I need to use it on a different distrib
[08:25] <synd> bob2: im trying to tap into iTunes Library streaming via Rendezvous on my Ubuntu box
[08:25] <bob2> when I looked just now
[08:26] <randabis> amarok rocks
[08:26] <spunout> I bet it may have been a repository thing... i will ssh over there and check it out, as soon as java's done installing (did an apt-get install azureus and it just pulled java down too, slick!)
[08:26] <synd> bob2: iTunes picks up my Limewire playlist sharing (from Ubuntu) and it does fine. I'd just like to do the reverse
[08:26] <MattAndreas> I need a better nickname
[08:26] <Soze> better
[08:26] <Soze> no
[08:27] <Soze> owned by another
[08:27] <Soze> ok
[08:27] <Soze> think...
[08:27] <synd> Soze: add kaiser to the beginning
[08:27] <Soze> could do that
[08:27] <chating> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/x/xfce4-panel/xfce4-panel_4.2.1.1-1ubuntu1_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[08:27] <spunout> MiserSose
[08:27] <chating> how to fix it ?
[08:27] <KSoze> K makes it easier to type
[08:27] <synd> now lowercase it : )
[08:27] <chating> whats repository others us or ca ?
[08:27] <KSoze> and I believe McQuarrie used the 'Keyser' spelling
[08:27] <bob2> chating: use archive.ubuntu.com then
[08:28] <KSoze> synd: for easier typing still?
[08:28] <robert> i've aliased my via_rhine ethernet card for dhcp-client in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases because it wasn't autodetected on the install, so far when i've ran ifup eth0, it brings up the eth0 and eth0:0, eth0:0 manages to grab an IP but I still can't do anything. any ideas? also; i've got /etc/network/interfaces setup with 'iface eth0 inet dhcp'
[08:28] <synd> KSoze: sure
[08:28] <ksoze> okee
[08:28] <kaiserroll> /nick kaiserroll
[08:28] <kaiserroll> i need sleep
[08:28] <ksoze> heh
[08:28] <synd> i need female
[08:29] <nemik> hahah
[08:29] <nalioth> also need instructions in using irssi
[08:29] <ksoze> I need sleep with female
[08:29] <bob2> come on folks
[08:29] <bob2> nalioth: it's the same as every other curses irc client
[08:29] <hondje> I'm on freenode, I'm going to brag. :)
[08:29] <nalioth> ksoze: those two items are mutually exclusive
[08:29] <synd> bob2: any ideas?
[08:29] <ksoze> but more, I need a good audio recoding program
[08:29] <bigbill52a> i just need sleep...lol
[08:29] <bob2> synd: no, sorry, I've never used itunes
[08:29] <ksoze> nalioth: sometimes, yes indeed
[08:29] <nalioth> bob2: until last week, i've never used a cursed irc client
[08:29] <bob2> wow
[08:29] <xbaxe> hello all
[08:30] <nomasteryoda> ksoze, audacity?
[08:30] <xbaxe> i just started using ubuntu
[08:30] <ksoze> haven't tried it
[08:30] <nomasteryoda> its pretty sweet
[08:30] <xbaxe> n ive got a problem , what is the default root passwd?
[08:30] <synd> xbaxe: run into a problem?
[08:30] <synd> xbaxe: there isnt one
[08:30] <spunout> looks like i am using us.archive.ubuntu.com and it is working??
[08:30] <paul_> where can I find info on installing network printers (specifically SMB)
[08:30] <ksoze> Is there a good place to find a fairly canonical listing of what sound programs exist as packages for ubuntu?
[08:30] <bob2> xbaxe: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[08:30] <synd> xbaxe: sudo takes care of that
[08:31] <bob2> xbaxe: it's in the faq, and the installer explained it at the end of the install
[08:31] <bob2> ksoze: no
[08:31] <xbaxe> synd: but dont you need a password?
[08:31] <spunout> ksoze, audacity seems like the goods
[08:31] <ksoze> and where is that to be found?
[08:31] <synd> xbaxe: you need your password
[08:31] <chating> bob2,  thanks
[08:31] <nalioth> bob2 is there a webpage/project we could look at re the 0-conf networking?
[08:31] <bob2> nalioth: don't know of one
[08:31] <xbaxe> synd: i dont remember setting a root password
[08:31] <synd> xbaxe: because there isnt one
[08:31] <Madpilot> blast... it seems I have bad RAM... system keeps freezing solid, and my BIOS just reported "System Memory Failure" when I tried to reboot just now... :(
[08:31] <bigbill52a> sometimes ubuntu installs asking for root password...
[08:32] <xbaxe> synd: only my own
[08:32] <bigbill52a> in expert mode
[08:32] <bob2> we're still waiting for someone to make a proper Free noconfig library
[08:32] <synd> xbaxe: read the wiki that bob2 gave you
[08:32] <ksoze> I had a strange thing happen.  the add/remove programs util asked for a password, and the root password didn't work, but my user password did
[08:32] <bob2> ksoze: 16:30:55           bob2 | xbaxe: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[08:32] <bigbill52a> and then it leaves your name out of the sudoers list
[08:32] <ksoze> ahhhh
[08:32] <xbaxe> ok thanks
[08:32] <ksoze> cool
[08:32] <bob2> xbaxe: the installer explained that to you, and it's in the faq
[08:32] <nate_> having some trouble with vnc... i can connect, but all i get is an empty X screen
[08:33] <nalioth> ksoze: you silly user, YOUR pwd is the root pwd
[08:33] <ksoze> it is?
[08:33] <synd> nate_: the vncserver is running on the other box, right?
[08:33] <nate_> yup
[08:33] <ksoze> so what is the root pwd for, then?
[08:33] <nate_> hence the connection
[08:33] <bigbill52a> but i like having a root password...since if the user window crashes you can log on as root and add another user
[08:33] <spunout> apt-cache search sound | less
[08:33] <ksoze> I mean, the once with the root account
[08:33] <ksoze> the one, rather
[08:33] <nate_> last time i installed vncserver, i was able to just connect without a problem
[08:33] <bob2> nalioth: er, no
[08:33] <bob2> nalioth: there's an important difference there
[08:34] <bob2> ksoze: there is no root password
[08:34] <bigbill52a> (which has happened...)
[08:34] <nomasteryoda>  any idea which is best for USB HD? ... Reiser or ext3?
[08:34] <synd> nate_: i had a similar problem when trying to connect to one of my ubuntu boxes from my OS X machien
[08:34] <bob2> bigbill52a: er, "user window"?
[08:35] <nate_> solution?
[08:35] <ksoze> bob2: is that a good thing?
[08:35] <bob2> ksoze: yes
[08:35] <bigbill52a> my gnome totally crashed...couldnt log in ...had to use root
[08:35] <randabis> bigbill52a: if something like that happened, you could probably just login to another tty
[08:35] <bob2> bigbill52a: you don't have to use root
[08:35] <synd> nate_: it'd connect, and have the same resolution in the window as if it was there, but nothing was rendered
[08:35] <scanwinder> when i try 2 install ubuntu on my laptop, i get the following error:  RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
[08:35] <scanwinder> any ideas how 2 fix it?
[08:35] <bob2> scanwinder: that's not an error
[08:35] <xbaxe> synd : so , my passwd is the root passwd?
[08:35] <ksoze> I read the article you pointed to, but I'm not sure why root had to be nuked.  I like the use of sudo, but can't it be handy sometimes to have good ol' root?
[08:35] <synd> nate_: well, i restarted the vncserver and restarted chicken of the VNC on OS X and it worked.
[08:35] <bob2> ksoze: it didn't have to be nuked, it was done for simplicity
[08:35] <ws010> hai
[08:36] <spunout> ksoze, then you just sudo su
[08:36] <ws010> gjhagksa
[08:36] <bob2> ksoze: I don't think there's any situation where it's neccessary to have a root account
[08:36] <synd> xbaxe: technically no
[08:36] <nalioth> ksoze: i've been using linux over 5 years, and have yet to find an instance here that i needed a "root" account
[08:36] <ksoze> bob2: can it be brought back by editing the pwd file?
[08:36] <ws010> gjhsgajkd
[08:36] <ws010> fsadjgaj
[08:36] <bigbill52a> yeah...it is for me..and using expert mode..was able to establish root pasword...
[08:36] <ws010> jafkjhakj
[08:36] <ws010> ghfkadhgf
[08:36] <ws010> kghskljg
[08:36] <hondje> bob2: ethereal
[08:36] <xbaxe> bob2 , i like root
[08:36] <randabis> root wasn't nuked completely...he's still there and can be enabled
[08:36] <ws010> hkjg
[08:36] <synd> ws010: wtf
[08:36] <ws010> hkjsdfhg
[08:36] <bob2> ksoze: if you really want to...
[08:36] <xbaxe> synd : i prefer root , i usually su only when i wnna pass shutdowns
[08:36] <bob2> hondje: how does that not work with sudo?
[08:36] <synd> xbaxe: theres no reason
[08:36] <ksoze> bob2: I likely may not, but just asking
[08:36] <spunout> the only reason i wanted root was for webmin, but then I found out how to edit the password for webmin and it didnt matter
[08:36] <bob2> xbaxe: good for you, you can enable it if you really want, but be aware some things might break
[08:37] <hondje> bob2: something about kernel stuff
[08:37] <hondje> bob2: You can't use all the features w/out root, like capturing
[08:37] <randabis> I see no need for su or direct root access if you have sudo
[08:37] <nalioth> synd: if you dont speak kghskljg, then he wasnt talking to you
[08:37] <ksoze> things might break with an enabled root?
[08:37] <randabis> one can always just sudo -s if they want a root prompt
[08:37] <synd> nalioth: say what?
[08:38] <nalioth> 01:34 < synd> ws010: wtf
[08:38] <nate_> synd: strangely enough, that worked
[08:38] <nate_> thx :)
[08:38] <synd> nalioth: hah.
[08:38] <synd> nate_: : )
[08:38] <ksoze> so is audacity nicely packaged for easy install?
[08:38] <randabis> ksoze: yep
[08:39] <bob2> ksoze: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[08:39] <synd> ksoze: as most things are
[08:39] <ksoze> well cool
[08:40] <el_zor0> anyone here successfuly built xdoom from source?
[08:40] <nalioth> el_zor0: is that a doom clone?
[08:41] <el_zor0> its a port, based on origanal id code
[08:41] <ksoze> synd: as I see now.  ardour and audacity are both there
[08:41] <nalioth> el_zor0: where is the source?
[08:41] <el_zor0> I'm trying to build psdoom, its a sys admin tool where the game creates a monster for every process and you run arround shooting your processes
[08:41] <el_zor0> wounded = reniced
[08:41] <el_zor0> killed = kill -9
[08:41] <nomasteryoda> lol
[08:41] <xbaxe> hiaz....
[08:42] <xbaxe> im getting thunderbird to install
[08:42] <el_zor0> anyway, the only binary package of psdoom I can find is for OSX, the irony is sickening
[08:42] <xbaxe> wish we could have a cool looking CML tool like emerge for gentoo
[08:42] <nalioth> el_zor0: so where is the source for those fun box killing games?
[08:42] <ksoze> hrm...this is an interesting learning experience
[08:42] <bob2> xbaxe: "cml"?
[08:42] <el_zor0> and xdoom won't build because it says I theres a problem with a pointer in the code
[08:42] <nalioth> xbaxe: port it
[08:42] <ksoze> I've worked with tarballs before, but not these packages
[08:42] <el_zor0> nalioth: what? box killing games?
[08:43] <bob2> el_zor0: lxdoom is in ubuntu...
[08:43] <xbaxe> bob2 : CoMmand Line
[08:43] <nalioth> el_zor0: the doom games you are on abou
[08:43] <xbaxe> nalioth : wish i was good enough to ......
[08:43] <ksoze> so I downloaded the package, and FileRoller opened it
[08:43] <nalioth> xbaxe: commonly abbreviated CLI
[08:43] <ksoze> should I have just dropped it on the desktop instead
[08:43] <xbaxe> nalioth : my bad then sorry
[08:43] <ksoze> and used add/remove programs to install it?
[08:43] <nate_> hmmm... still not working quite right
[08:44] <nalioth> xbaxe: not at all
[08:44] <bob2> ksoze: er
[08:44] <bob2> ksoze: why are you downloading packages at all?
[08:44] <el_zor0> nalioth: abou?
[08:44] <thoreauputic> ksoze: none of the above for .debs
[08:44] <nalioth> xbaxe: we all make up tlas and flas, the trick is to get everyone to use them
[08:44] <ksoze> bob2: as opposed to what?
[08:44] <nalioth> el_zor0: n/m i'm googling it. it sounds interesting
[08:44] <bob2> ksoze: as opposed to letting apt do it
[08:44] <thoreauputic> ksoze: use synaptic or apt
[08:44] <el_zor0> it looks awesome, but can't make it work
[08:45] <el_zor0> the catch is aparently the monsters can get friendly fire on eachother and take down your system
[08:45] <el_zor0> I've got a journaling fs, I'm game to try it
[08:45] <xbaxe> nalioth : true
[08:45] <synd> to waste lots of time
[08:45] <xbaxe> synd : try www.runescape.com
[08:45] <nate_> synd: planeshift.it
[08:45] <ksoze> how do I find a given package with synamptic?
[08:45] <el_zor0> synd: nethack?
[08:45] <xbaxe> its java
[08:45] <xbaxe> and free
[08:46] <ksoze> I have it running but can't find what I want in the listing
[08:46] <hondje> synd: glest is RPG? I"m not sure about game categories
[08:46] <bob2> ksoze: there's no find option?
[08:46] <hondje> no, it's 'real time strategy'
[08:46] <thoreauputic> ksoze: first I suggest you look here: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[08:46] <ksoze> there's a search
[08:46] <xbaxe> synd : nethack and ADOM aint bad
[08:46] <xbaxe> ADOM is best on www.gamhippo's rpg list
[08:46] <bob2> ksoze: there you go
[08:46] <hondje> nethack is great, especially w/ falcons eye
[08:47] <nalioth> el_zor0: where did you get the source code for the doom games of which you speak?
[08:47] <xbaxe> but ADOM is windows only
[08:47] <synd> xbaxe, nate_, el_zor0, hondje: thx
[08:47] <ksoze> but the search turns up nothing
[08:47] <ksoze> I'll go to the URL
[08:47] <thoreauputic> ksoze: you will want the Universe repository, and probably multiverse as well
[08:47] <xbaxe> hondjie :yep , it is damm good ... if i could get used to da commands
[08:47] <el_zor0> http://psdoom.sourceforge.net/download.html
[08:47] <el_zor0> that'll link you up
[08:47] <hondje> Madpilot: ET is fun
[08:47] <synd> sweet deal
[08:47] <nalioth> el_zor0: thx
[08:47] <hondje> Madpilot: It's not in the repos, but it's very easy to install
[08:47] <el_zor0> madpilot: you need windows :-/
[08:48] <el_zor0> madpilot: on linux though, go for doom 3
[08:48] <hondje> Doom3, Unreal-whatever, Wolfenstein, Enemy Territory, Americas Army...
[08:48] <ksoze> and those are not in by defaultl, I assume
[08:48] <ksoze> ok
[08:48] <Madpilot> thanks, everyone, I'll look for those... :)
[08:48] <spunout> Got Ardor installed...
[08:48] <hondje> hl2 runs in cedega
[08:49] <schorem> heya
[08:49] <xbaxe> where can i find windows games lookalikes for linux?
[08:49] <el_zor0> cedega is a pain in the ass though, always craps out and runs weird for me
[08:49] <spunout> now I need to configure JACK... probably just having issues because i running remote X
[08:49] <Madpilot> blowing sh*t up can be relaxing... try Scorched3d - it *is* in the repos, and it's cool
[08:49] <ksoze> maybe I'll try ardour myself, then
[08:49] <hondje> You guys know there's a gaming forum at ubuntuforums.org
[08:49] <hondje> Madpilot: bzflag is fun
[08:50] <Madpilot> hondje: I didn't actually. Will have to check it out.
[08:50] <jakejan1991> is it possible to install ubuntu from the live CD?  i doubt it, but....possible?
[08:50] <hondje> bzflag > *
[08:50] <synd> jakejan1991: i dont think so
[08:50] <jakejan1991> ok
[08:50] <synd> correct me if im wrong though
[08:51] <jakejan1991> i have no idea
[08:51] <el_zor0> this is a little bit of what make gives me for xdoom
[08:51] <el_zor0> playmus.c:156: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
[08:51] <el_zor0> playmus.c:156: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
[08:52] <el_zor0> that about 50 times
[08:52] <hondje> ouch
[08:52] <ksoze> ok...audacity and ardour installed.  cool.
[08:53] <nalioth> jakejan1991: it is possible, but way out of newbie land
[08:53] <jakejan1991> haha.  i can only imagine.
[08:54] <hondje> ah, one woody upgraded to sarge, praise the overlords.
[08:54] <randabis> heh cool
[08:54] <jakejan1991> also, does anyone know how to access windows files from ubuntu running on a live CD?  i dont see the C: drive anywhere
[08:55] <randabis> heard there were a lot of problems for some people upgrading from woody
[08:55] <ksoze> hrm...
[08:55] <concept10> ubuntu has a horrible default font.  its just not the same Sans.  What system wide font are you guys using?
[08:55] <ksoze> audacity not happy
[08:55] <ksoze> problem initialting the I/O layer
[08:55] <hondje> concept10: system -> preferences -> fonts should tell you what you're using
[08:55] <ksoze> it detects no playback device, even though ubuntu does just fine
[08:55] <ksoze> hrm...
[08:56] <ksoze> let's see what ardour does...
[08:56] <hondje> randabis: I heard that too, but this one went smooth
[08:56] <thoreauputic> ksoze: esd problem with audacity
[08:56] <concept10> I know what im using (Sans) ....... i asked what you guys are using...
[08:56] <hondje> oh
[08:56] <hondje> I'm using sans
[08:56] <hondje> when I'm not, I like arial
[08:56] <ksoze> esd?
[08:57] <ksoze> ardour couldn't connect to JACK...
[08:57] <ksoze> man, I'ma  babe in the woods on this thing.
[08:57] <ksoze> ahh, to learn again - 'tis fun
[08:57] <hornsby> morning all
[08:57] <thoreauputic> ksoze: audacity wants to use oss - esd is the enlightened sound daemon (so called :/ )
[08:58] <ksoze> so I'm hosed?
[08:58] <thoreauputic> no
[08:58] <ksoze> or I have to go get oss?
[08:58] <thoreauputic> neither
[08:58] <ksoze> aha!
[08:58] <randabis> kill esd
[08:58] <ksoze> heh
[08:58] <ksoze> permanently?
[08:58] <thoreauputic> but audacity sometimes plays nicer no
[08:58] <thoreauputic> oops
[08:59] <thoreauputic> ksoze: not permanently
[08:59] <pepsi> is firefox broken for everyone in breezy or did i do something extra special to bork mine? ;D
[08:59] <thoreauputic> ksoze: try `killall esd` in a terminal, then type ` audacity ` and see what happens
[09:00] <randabis> pepsi: your problem is using breezy
[09:00] <randabis> heh
[09:00] <thoreauputic> ksoze: you might need ` sudo killall esd` (not sure)
[09:00] <ksoze> thoreauputic: worked
[09:00] <thoreauputic> aha
[09:00] <pepsi> randabis, right.. but thats not the issue
[09:00] <hondje> does killall send HUP by default?
[09:00] <pepsi> whats up with all the default "cause you're using breezy" responses?
[09:01] <ksoze> so do I just write  acript to kill esd and then run audacity every time?
[09:01] <ksoze> or can I permanently yank esd?
[09:01] <ksoze> and still maintain jukebox capability?
[09:01] <randabis> I wouldn't permanently yank esd
[09:01] <hondje> oh, SIGTERM
[09:01] <thoreauputic> ksoze: hmm - you can (I have) but you need to reconfigure sound somewhat to do that
[09:01] <randabis> at least on gnome systems
[09:01] <randabis> kubuntu user here :)
[09:02] <thoreauputic> randabis: I use dmix
[09:02] <ksoze> so is the better option just kill esd every time I want to use audacity?
[09:02] <thoreauputic> ksoze: at the moment, yeah
[09:02] <randabis> thoreauputic: nifty.
[09:02] <thoreauputic> ksoze: until you get comfortable
[09:02] <hondje> I found that by turning off sound events, esd doesn't barf as much
[09:02] <ksoze> and after that?  :)
[09:02] <randabis> you'll have to use the force
[09:03] <ksoze> heh
[09:03] <thoreauputic> ksoze: then you can use a howto to reconfigure sound
[09:03] <ksoze> so what the hell is JACK that ardour is complaingin about?
[09:03] <Madpilot> ksoze: you can restart ESD just by typing esd at a terminal
[09:03] <ksoze> figured that much, but thank you kindly
[09:03] <nate_> synd: so i'm trying to set up gallery... anyone have experience with it?
[09:04] <thoreauputic> ksoze: ah - you are kind of jumping in at the deep end ;)
[09:04] <synd> nate_: gallery?
[09:04] <ksoze> it's my way :)
[09:04] <goye2cz> I've opened Synaptic package manager and want to install the libqt3c102-mt package. I don't find it in the list though. What can I do?
[09:04] <ksoze> well, I do music, and wanted a linux box to do it on
[09:04] <ksoze> figured the ubuntu 'it just works' philosophy was appealing
[09:04] <nate_> synd: php web photo gallery
[09:04] <ksoze> and thought I'd give it a try as my music box
[09:04] <hondje> nate_: I use MIG, works well
[09:05] <ksoze> so this is pretty much the primary use I have for this machine
[09:05] <ksoze> and as such, I'm willing to jump to get it working :)
[09:05] <thoreauputic> ksoze: http://jackit.sourceforge.net/docs/faq.php
[09:05] <nate_> mig?
[09:05] <hondje> http://mig.sourceforge.net/
[09:05] <ksoze> thoreauputic?: thanks
[09:06] <thoreauputic> ksoze: note that jack is also available in the repos with synaptic or apt
[09:06] <thoreauputic> ksoze: sound is kind of ... interesting on linux ;)
[09:07] <hondje> aka ugly
[09:07] <DukGalNamu> how do i unpck a rar?
[09:07] <DukGalNamu> unpack
[09:07] <KarlosII> DukGalNamu, uhh
[09:07] <hondje> DukGalNamu: apt-get install unrar-nonfree
[09:07] <KarlosII> unrar ??
[09:07] <ksoze> thoreauputic: how encouraging.  :)
[09:07] <Eighth_> hondje: how do you make your thumbnails?
[09:07] <goye2cz> Has anyone installed Skype? I'm having trouble finding the libqt3c102-mt package.
[09:07] <hornsby> i got skype
[09:07] <hondje> Eighth: it uses image magik through a perl script
[09:07] <Eighth_> groovy
[09:07] <bob2> goye2cz: libqt3-mt
[09:07] <thoreauputic> ksoze: you'll get the hang of it - you just need to do some research :)
[09:07] <hondje> Eighth: yeah, and pretty configurable
[09:08] <Eighth_> fairly simple to use?
[09:08] <hondje> very, I can do it
[09:08] <Eighth_> :)
[09:08] <goye2cz> bob2: so I'm looking for the wrong package?
[09:08] <hondje> easier than setting up wordpress was
[09:08] <ksoze> do I need the jack package, or jack-eq?
[09:08] <zerokills> anyone know how to disable everything using sound in Ubuntu?
[09:08] <DukGalNamu> k thanks
[09:08] <ksoze> in any case, the ardour folks should make that a dependency
[09:09] <nalioth> night
[09:09] <thoreauputic> ksoze: I'm inclined to agree
[09:09] <ksoze> thoreauputic: so is it jack that I need, or jack-eq?
[09:09] <thoreauputic> ksoze: although there are other ways I guess (I haven't used ardour0
[09:09] <hornsby> goye2cz, yea, were looking at wrong package
[09:09] <ksoze> I suppose getting both won't kill me
[09:09] <HappyFool> zerokills: you can easily mute the sound (right-click on the speaker icon, choose mute) -- or did you want something else
[09:10] <dancec0mmander> can someone answer a question?
[09:10] <thoreauputic> ksoze: jack to start with, or just install both
[09:10] <hondje> zerokills: I disable sound events in system -> preferences -> sound
[09:10] <bob2> goye2cz: libqt3c102-mt is correct, and it is indeed in ubuntu
[09:10] <ksoze> I'll get 'em both
[09:10] <ksoze> can't hurt anything
[09:10] <ksoze> :)
[09:10] <zerokills> HappyFool: yea, something else
[09:10] <HappyFool> dancec0mmander: only if you ask it ;)
[09:10] <thoreauputic> ksoze: if there are conflicts, apt will tell you anyway
[09:10] <hondje> HappyFool: actually, you just did :)
[09:11] <ksoze> yeah
[09:11] <HappyFool> hondje: *aargh*
[09:11] <hondje> :)
[09:11] <ksoze> wel...I'll do jack first
[09:11] <ksoze> here goes
[09:11] <zerokills> hondje: Ubuntu accesses the sound device and reserves it for use. i need to figure out how to disable that so i can use sound in Counter Strike
[09:12] <bob2> zerokills: pkill esd
[09:12] <goye2cz> hornsby or bob2: I did this yesterday, and all went well. today, I'm not finding it. Under Applications/system tools/ add-remove programs, I clicked the advanced tab. I got synaptic and looked through the list. I don't see any of those.
[09:12] <bob2> goye2cz: ignore that then
[09:12] <hornsby> goye2cz, installing debian package from skype.com works great, did you try that ?
[09:12] <bob2> goye2cz: sudo aptitude instll libqt3c102-mt
[09:12] <bob2> goye2cz: if that doesn't work, your /etc/apt/sources.list is misconfigured
[09:12] <thoreauputic> ksoze: to get jack working, you will probably need to do some reading and googling
[09:12] <ksoze> heh
[09:12] <ksoze> so ubuntu does indeed just work
[09:12] <ksoze> but sound apps sure as hell don't  :)
[09:13] <zerokills> bob2: thats it?
[09:13] <hondje> sound on linux is a mess of hacks and work arounds
[09:13] <ksoze> bummer
[09:13] <thoreauputic> ksoze: you are using rather advanced stuff with ardour (not many people get into that)
[09:13] <bob2> zerokills: I'd be surprised if anything else was using it
[09:13] <goye2cz> bob2: anything is possible. I did download the .deb package and started following instructions on the ubuntu wiki page. I'll try what you just said though.
[09:13] <bob2> sound works fine if you have a decent card
[09:13] <ksoze> seems I'd be wise not to bother.  I have other system
[09:13] <bob2> ie a sb live
[09:13] <bob2> if you have anything else, jist configure dmix and be happy
[09:13] <ksoze> sound has many definitions
[09:14] <ksoze> basic app sound, sure no problem
[09:14] <thoreauputic> ksoze: it's worth the effort - quite rewarding
[09:14] <ksoze> installing a multitrak app to work seems like a pain
[09:14] <bob2> sweep is very easy to instll
[09:14] <ksoze> bob2: not heard of that one.
[09:14] <hornsby> goye2cz,  $sudo dpkg -i  skype***.deb      -> didn't get this done ?
[09:15] <thoreauputic> ksoze: both sweep and audacity are pretty easy
[09:15] <hondje> kso
[09:15] <hondje> ksoze: http://www.metadecks.org/software/sweep
[09:15] <zerokills> bob2: k, i hope this works, if it doesnt i have CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE... sigh
[09:15] <ksoze> except audacity requires I kill esd
[09:15] <goye2cz> hee hee, linux has a great sense of humor. I LIKE IT.
[09:15] <hondje> zerokills: No you don
[09:15] <ksoze> I'm not gonna whine about it, but it is silly
[09:15] <hondje> zerokills: just ctrl-alt-f1, and kill your game
[09:15] <bob2> zerokills: er, why would you do that?
[09:15] <zerokills> hondje: the screen freezes
[09:15] <hornsby> goye2cz, yea linux is funny :)
[09:15] <bob2> ksoze: so, setup aumix
[09:15] <bob2> er, dmix
[09:15] <thoreauputic> ksoze: only because esd is a pain - getting dmix workinfg is worth trying
[09:15] <zerokills> hondje: really? ill try that this time
[09:16] <hondje> zerokills: that's what I do
[09:16] <maruko`> hey. is there a group( except root )that can install packages ?
[09:16] <ksoze> I may
[09:16] <beowu1f> anyone using the new dell M70 precision? any good?
[09:16] <ksoze> I just need something that works now
[09:16] <thoreauputic> bob2 actually the dmix guide on ubuntuguide.org seems OK - what would you recommend?
[09:16] <ksoze> I plan on doing some recording with a singer tomorrow :)
[09:16] <bob2> thoreauputic: I haven't seen it
[09:17] <hondje> thoreauputic: I'm glad to hear that, I actually did follow that one :)
[09:17] <HappyFool> maruko`: use 'sudo'
[09:17] <zerokills> bob2: pkill esd did the trick, thanks man
[09:17] <ksoze> meanwhile, I guess I'll yank ardour
[09:17] <Eighth_> i need some help setting up apache.. i've never worked with a web server
[09:17] <ksoze> and jack
[09:17] <Eighth_> but i think i should prolly go to bed
[09:17] <zerokills> now i just gotta figure out why steam isnt bringing up any servers to play on
[09:18] <zerokills> anyone have an idea?
[09:18] <hornsby> Eighth, what do you want to do ?
[09:18] <thoreauputic> ksoze: yeah, one thing at a time, I suggest - get audacity going
[09:18] <hondje> zerokills: iptables?
[09:18] <ksoze> so in Synaptic, what's the difference between removal and complete removal?
[09:18] <zerokills> hondje: no clue
[09:18] <thoreauputic> ksoze: sweep is definitely worth a look though
[09:18] <hondje> zerokills: worth a check
[09:18] <ksoze> thoreauputic: I like that appraoch, and prefer not to have software lying around that I'm not using.
[09:19] <zerokills> hondje: how do i check
[09:19] <thoreauputic> ksoze: "complete" removes the vconfig files as well
[09:19] <ksoze> ok
[09:19] <ksoze> I'll do that
[09:19] <thoreauputic> *config
[09:19] <hondje> zerokills: sudo /etc/init.d/firestarter stop (if you run it), then sudo iptables -F. Then connect and try
[09:19] <hornsby> Eighth, http://ubuntuguide.org/#apachehttpserver
[09:19] <zerokills> hondje: k thanks
[09:19] <hondje> a recipe for apache sounds like a recipe for a rooting
[09:20] <thoreauputic> ksoze: if you are into sound, the multiverse repo is pretty much a necessity, too
[09:20] <Madpilot> unprintable machine... Muine won't start tonight, and RythymBox just crashed again... :p
[09:21] <zerokills> hondje: nope, im gonna have to check up on some Cedega forums
[09:21] <hondje> zerokills: okay...sudo /etc/init.d/firestarter start I guess :) Good luck
[09:22] <zerokills> hondje: thanks :)  i know i can play Half-Life 2 now tho
[09:22] <hondje> zerokills: if you're lucky, I oculdnt' get it going
[09:22] <goye2cz> bob2: well, I tried and nothing has helped me yet. You said " if that doesn't work, your /etc/apt/sources.list is misconfigured". What's left for me to try now?
[09:22] <hondje> .5 fps
[09:22] <bob2> goye2cz: configuring it properly
[09:22] <bob2> goye2cz: paste it to #flood
[09:23] <goye2cz> Everything was fine on the live cd, but now that I've installed, it's wacky.
[09:23] <bob2> right
[09:23] <ksoze> so sweep plays nice with esd?
[09:23] <hornsby> goye2cz,  what message do you get when you try $sudo dpkg -i skype ****.deb
[09:24] <ksoze> thor: noted.  Thanks.
[09:24] <hondje> after skype, hit tab and bash will spell the rest out for you
[09:24] <goye2cz> hornsby: wish I could cut and paste from the terminal... just a sec...
[09:24] <HappyFool> don't paste here! ;)
[09:24] <ksoze> ok, rebooting
[09:25] <goye2cz> no such file.
[09:25] <goye2cz> basically
[09:25] <bob2> wtf
[09:25] <hornsby> maybe you are not in the right directory
[09:25] <goye2cz> quite possible.
[09:25] <bob2> goye2cz: we need to see /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:25] <hornsby> right
[09:25] <HappyFool> goye2cz: do what bob2 said -- paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood
[09:25] <Revelation> *aw*
[09:25] <goye2cz> I am VERY new to this.
[09:26] <goye2cz> will do....
[09:27] <goye2cz> hee hee.... where do I find that?
[09:27] <bob2>  /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:27] <hornsby> $sudo kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:27] <bob2> which won't work on ubuntu machines
[09:27] <HappyFool> i'm guessing he might not have kwrite ;)
[09:28] <hornsby> true :)
[09:28] <hornsby> gedit :)
[09:28] <thoreauputic> goye2cz: easy way:  gedit /etc/apt/sources.list,  highlight ,  go to the #flood channel, paste
[09:28] <holycow> anyone run myth tv under ubuntu?
[09:28] <holycow> just curious if anyone has had any success?
[09:28] <thoreauputic> do NOT paste in here though!
[09:28] <goye2cz> I'm guessing I should be typing that in the terminal? It tells me permission denied.
[09:28] <bigbill52a> had to replace a hard drive for a customer...used linux to copy all his windows files from his old computer to an external drive and after installing and formatting the new hard drive..copied the files back...windows started right up...
[09:28] <hondje> easier, if using xchat, /join #flood, and then /exec -o cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:29] <goye2cz> DON'T WORRY! will not paste here :-)
[09:29] <HappyFool> heh
[09:29] <hornsby> $sudo gedit
[09:29] <thoreauputic> goye2cz: yes, try hondje 's way instead
[09:29] <bigbill52a> live cd
[09:29] <hondje> yeah, just /join #flood, I got your back :)
[09:29] <goye2cz> will do...
[09:30] <jetscreamer> /etc/ in /ramdisk isn't it w/livecd
[09:30] <bigbill52a> you have to mount the two hard drives
[09:31] <bigbill52a> actually i used the system rescue cd which uses gentoo and did everything from the command line
[09:32] <bigbill52a> saved me several hours reinstalling windows..and suffering excessive boredom
[09:32] <ksoze> so anyone use ecasound?
[09:33] <ksoze> sweep looks alright, but seems to be designed as a DJ tool
[09:33] <IIIEars> Hello Ubuntuans! :)
[09:33] <HappyFool> morning IIIEars
[09:33] <nobile> 1:33 am here =P
[09:34] <IIIEars> I need a hint on UT99 - It looks and runs perfectly :)
[09:34] <ksoze> what was the name of that jukebox app again?
[09:34] <ksoze> (I was gonna install it and forgot)
[09:34] <dark> anyone havin a prob with breezy reps?
[09:34] <ficusplanet> ubuntu made it into PC World's 100 best products of the year!
[09:35] <hornsby> ficusplanet, heheh, good news
[09:35] <bob2> dark: you need to be way more specific
[09:35] <IIIEars> I just can't connect to an online server. The connection is accepted then.. Pause .. pause .. Nothing.. -???
[09:35] <bob2> dark: but things being uninstallable in breezy is to be expected
[09:35] <black13> are there people up this hour
[09:36] <ksoze> oh yeah there are
[09:36] <bob2> black13: it's only 5:30pm here
[09:36] <black13> where is here
[09:36] <hondje> goye2cz: before all those lines that start with deb and deb-src, erase the #
[09:36] <IIIEars> black13 - Of course there are. sleep is for people without high speed internet connections. - lol
[09:36] <dark> as in having problems connecting to them or downloading from them in general
[09:36] <bob2> dark: us.archive.ubuntu.com is screwed, it seems
[09:37] <hondje> goye2cz: once you have those removed, sudo apt-get update
[09:37] <black13> i stay up late to watch daria
[09:37] <black13> and compile LFS
[09:37] <dark> bob2: i see, bad time to upgrade then lol
[09:37] <IIIEars> black13 - daria?
[09:37] <bob2> dark: archive.ubuntu.com should be fine
[09:38] <IIIEars> bob2 - any md5sum errors?
[09:38] <black13> daria was cartoon on mtv during the 90s
[09:38] <dark> roger, ill try again, thanks
[09:38] <thoreauputic> goye2cz: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list to edit , then save the file
[09:38] <bob2> IIIEars: that's a symptom of it, yeah
[09:38] <oliang> o
[09:39] <oliang> sorry i type wrong message
[09:39] <dark> thats what i was getting
[09:39] <synd> is there any version of gnu/linux that the airport extreme card works with?
[09:39] <dark> ton of md5 errors
[09:40] <bob2> synd: no
[09:40] <ficusplanet> synd, no
[09:40] <bob2> synd: broadcom refuses to document it
[09:40] <synd> ughughugh
[09:40] <bob2> feel free to email them to ask why not, tho...
[09:40] <bob2> maybe enough public pressure will make them change their minds
[09:40] <synd> is there any reverse engineering being done?
[09:41] <bob2> yes
[09:41] <goye2cz> thoreauputic: Thanks for patience (to all actually) but am I to type that last command in this chat session?
[09:41] <jetscreamer> yes
[09:41] <IIIEars> bob2 - Ogling some new AMD 64 motherboards - some have Broadcom chipsets are all broadcom products M$ addicted?
[09:41] <bob2> goye2cz: no, into your terminal
[09:41] <jetscreamer> goye2cz: no in console/xterm
[09:41] <hondje> at least RE-ing drivers is the exception
[09:41] <ksoze> ok, sweep seems a bit silly
[09:42] <ksoze> asking me to create a file and set a length up front
[09:42] <bob2> IIIEars: the ethernet chipsets work ok with one of two drivers on linux
[09:42] <bob2> IIIEars: wireless ones seem to be the only problems
[09:42] <filosof> is Ubuntu have problem install packages from source ???
[09:42] <IIIEars> bob2 - Thanks
[09:42] <hondje> filosof: No, not at all
[09:42] <ksoze> I'm not gonna bother right now.  ubuntu is way cool.  Linux seems to be a giant PITA for recording.  :)
[09:42] <gm78> filosof : i have compiled tons of things on ubuntu
[09:43] <filosof>  hondje  i trying install apache (took it from apache.org) but get error while ./configure
[09:43] <gm78> filosof : what error?
[09:43] <filosof> checking for gcc... gcc
[09:43] <filosof> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[09:43] <filosof> See `config.log' for more details.
[09:43] <filosof> configure failed for srclib/apr
[09:43] <bob2> filosof: that just means you didn't install things correctly
[09:43] <filosof> this one
[09:43] <hondje> filosof: That doesn't mean ubuntu has a problem, that means you need to add more pkgs. :)
[09:43] <bob2> filosof: why are you compiling apache?
[09:43] <jetscreamer> ^^
[09:44] <gm78> filosof : ubuntu includes apache. u also dont have a compiler installed. install the package build_essential and try again
[09:44] <filosof>  bob2  i wanted to try how it's work with ather packages
[09:44] <bob2> filosof: I don't understand you
[09:44] <jetscreamer> he meant why don't you just install apache btw
[09:44] <bob2> filosof: anyway, if you install the build-essential package, it will get past that
[09:44] <ksoze> are there any good irc channels or web communities for sound on linux (and particularly ubuntu)?
[09:45] <black13> jebuss, gcc takes forever to compile
[09:45] <thoreauputic> ksoze: I'm sure there would be channels for audacity - probably on this server
[09:45] <filosof> i know ubuntu have apache , but i wanted try install apache from source :-\
[09:45] <hondje> ksoze: #alsa
[09:45] <thoreauputic> ksoze: probably lots of others here too
[09:45] <gm78> black13 : why are you compiling GCC?
[09:45] <xbaxe> back
[09:46] <bob2> filosof: then do what I said and you can
[09:46] <goye2cz> does the sudo apt-get update generally take a long time?
[09:46] <ksoze> hondje: tahnks
[09:46] <ksoze> thoreauputic: thanks also
[09:46] <bob2> filosof: bear in mind you're making huge amounts of work for yourself for no reason, tho
[09:46] <black13> for LFS
[09:46] <thoreauputic> goye2cz: only the first time
[09:46] <jetscreamer> goye2cz: not usually, sometimes it hangs and i just ctrl+c it and redo
[09:46] <thoreauputic> ksoze: you're welcome
[09:46] <ksoze> one of these days, when I have time, I'll try and get audacity going
[09:46] <hondje> well, I see reasons to roll your own apache, but boredom would be an odd one
[09:46] <jetscreamer> times out
[09:46] <ksoze> for now, I'll just skip recording with linux
[09:46] <filosof>  bob2  i know :-)) but i new for linux and try play around before i decide
[09:46] <ksoze> seems like it needs time to mature
[09:46] <black13> gm78, for lfs
[09:47] <xbaxe> hey guys , is it possible to configure apt-get and use deb sources instead of ubuntu?
[09:47] <bob2> xbaxe: yes, but please don'\t
[09:47] <gm78> xbaxe : you could try. it isnt recommended tho
[09:47] <syntaxman> filosof: get the build_essential package and also read the man page for "apt-get"... it can get the sources for you and the dependencies too
[09:47] <thoreauputic> ksoze: not so much that - but it takes more work than it should perhaps :)
[09:47] <bob2> syntaxman: -, not _
[09:47] <xbaxe> bob2; what wud happen?
[09:47] <bob2> xbaxe: things will break in ways yo uwon't be able to fix
[09:47] <ksoze> thoreauputic: at one level, they're the same thing.  :)
[09:48] <goye2cz> jetscreamer: I'm converting from using windows for a LONG time. If I get my system hanging what should I do. In win I jsut use ctrl+alt+del.
[09:48] <jetscreamer> i'll let you know when i get around to it xbaxe
[09:48] <xbaxe> ah.... why wudnt we?
[09:48] <bob2> xbaxe: e.g. you won't be able to install packages from ubuntu, or upgrade to breezy
[09:48] <bigbill52a> same if you come the other way
[09:48] <thoreauputic> ksoze: I know what you mean :)
[09:48] <signius> oooh whats breezy ?
[09:48] <filosof>  syntaxman  ok , thanks alot, i will try
[09:48] <bob2> bluntly, if you have to ask how to configure apt to do it, you're going to have a lot of trouble if someone tells you how
[09:48] <goye2cz> while I wait... never mind, it's done
[09:48] <synd> signius: the new installment of Ubuntu due in a few months
[09:48] <bob2> signius: the develpment branch of ubuntu
[09:48] <xbaxe> bob2 , this is just for fun and coz i needed a system before going to Gentoo customization
[09:48] <jetscreamer> goye2cz: what i meant is that sometimes apt-get update will time out for me, i ctrl+c (stop) it and just sudo apt-get update again and it usually works
[09:48] <signius> ahhow stable is it at the moment
[09:48] <ksoze> any chance ubuntu will make esd play nice?
[09:49] <hondje> signius: not at all
[09:49] <signius> is it real rough or is it fairly good ?
[09:49] <syntaxman> bob2: oh yeah. build-essential
[09:49] <bob2> xbaxe: I don't know what that means
[09:49] <ksoze> maybe in the next release? (fingers corssed)
[09:49] <hondje> signius: read the topic :)
[09:49] <bob2> signius: not very, /topic
[09:49] <synd> ksoze: why not use alsa?
[09:49] <xbaxe> bob2: sorry , my typing is crap
[09:49] <bob2> ksoze: it works fine with supported things
[09:49] <zerokills> hondje: Half-Life 2 runs flawlessly. sound and video, everything works great
[09:49] <signius> ok i will leave well alone for the moment on my laptop then
[09:49] <ksoze> synd" ;arge;y because i don't know what it is :)
[09:49] <ksoze> largely, even
[09:49] <signius> i only just woke up so if i missed something i applogise
[09:49] <xbaxe> bob2 : i tried installing Gentoo , and got burned for a bit
[09:49] <Tyche> I use totem and the w32 codecs. It seems that audio and the picture do not match up...do you know why?
[09:49] <bigbill52a> i have strange things happening in kde on ubuntu that i dont have on debian...
[09:49] <hondje> zerokills: you win, I lose ;-) I might try it again, then, since I bought it andcan't use it
[09:49] <signius> and be gentle with me i got a fuck off hangover
[09:49] <ksoze> bob2: is there a list of supported sound recording apps?
[09:50] <thoreauputic> ksoze: I think dmix is a better option, but I think breezy is using polypaudio
[09:50] <xbaxe> i had a spare hoary cd and installed ubuntu
[09:50] <bob2> ksoze: anything with an ubuntu icon next to it in synaptic
[09:50] <bob2> bigbill52a: #kubuntu might know more
[09:50] <ksoze> ok
[09:50] <IIIEars> goye2cz - there is a tool you can easily right click and add to the taskbar for hung gui applications. I my desktop is really hung up CTRL+F2 works to get a console.
[09:50] <hondje> Tyche: use totem-xine instead of totem-gstreamer
[09:50] <zerokills> hondje: it took a lot of dinking around, but i got it to work. its worth tryin to get it to work
[09:50] <xbaxe> so this is for in the middle where i lick my wounds and regroup for another attack
[09:50] <synd> ksoze: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly
[09:50] <bigbill52a> like if i try to even pick a screen saver (gl), as soon as the cursor touches it the computer locks up...
[09:50] <ksoze> thoreauputic: dmix meaning the replacement for esd?
[09:50] <benjamin123> anyone here have a serial ata hd?
[09:51] <IIIEars> !ubotu
[09:51] <ubotu> No idea, IIIEars
[09:51] <jetscreamer> hey assuming you can get the breezy live dvd to run ( i can) how would one install it... reboot ?
[09:51] <bob2> benjamin123: yes, lots of people do (including me)
[09:51] <bigbill52a> glx gears works fine...correct driver installed in both instances..so it must be a bug in kde specific to ubuntu
[09:51] <jetscreamer> or is there a script
[09:51] <thoreauputic> ksoze: I've disabled esd and use only dmix with xine, arts sometimes, gstreamer occasionally
[09:51] <ksoze> synd: what did you send me to?
[09:51] <synd> ksoze: to fix your sound : )
[09:51] <benjamin123> bob2, what controller port is your dvd or cd rom installed in, primary or secondary?
[09:51] <ksoze> it's not broken
[09:51] <thoreauputic> ksoze: that URL is aguide to getting dmix working
[09:51] <ksoze> I just can't find a good audio app that works with what came out of the box
[09:52] <bob2> benjamin123: secondary sata, it seems
[09:52] <ksoze> although bob2 appears to be pointing me toward some
[09:52] <synd> ksoze: what were you complaining for about esd?
[09:52] <benjamin123> oh, its serial ata as well?
[09:52] <ksoze> synd: that audacity doesn't work with it
[09:52] <jetscreamer> benjamin123: that's variable by the manufacturer, i've even seen a new one that had the cdrom on hda
[09:52] <ksoze> and that's fine
[09:52] <hondje> if esd was great, it wouldn't be getting replaced in gnome 2.12...
[09:52] <thoreauputic> ksoze: we could argue about whether esd is broken
[09:52] <jetscreamer> nowadays
[09:52] <ksoze> as long as something else does :)
[09:52] <synd> oh, i havent been paying much attn
[09:52] <xbaxe> Guys , does ubuntu come wit a Java ?
[09:52] <thoreauputic> ksoze: I personally think esd stinks
[09:52] <ksoze> maybe
[09:52] <jetscreamer> if you install it
[09:53] <hondje> thoreauputic: I tend to agree, BUT...
[09:53] <ksoze> I don't know much about it
[09:53] <hondje> when they replace it with gstreamer, I fear it'll be worse
[09:53] <benjamin123> i tried installing ubuntu but ran into problems, it couldnt get certain files of the disc, and i know its a good disc, i tried 2 different copies
[09:53] <ksoze> I'm just trying to follow the "it just works" mentality
[09:53] <holycow> guys, what does this mean --> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mailx/mailx_8.1.2-0.20040524cvs-4_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[09:53] <AndyR> lo all
[09:53] <bob2> benjamin123: it's not a "good disk" unless you checked the md5sum
[09:53] <benjamin123> i have a sata hd and a dvd plugged into the primary ide controller, not secondary, and it is master
[09:53] <ksoze> meaning I am trying to get somethign that works with what is here
[09:53] <bob2> holycow: use archive.ubuntu.com
[09:53] <synd> ksoze: most things "just work" but this aint no OS X : )
[09:53] <ksoze> right
[09:53] <holycow> bob2, what is the difference?
[09:53] <ksoze> so does sound recording not just work?
[09:53] <hondje> OS X doesn't just work either
[09:54] <ksoze> that'd save me some time :)
[09:54] <bob2> holycow: one is in the us and doesn't work, one is in the uk and does ;)
[09:54] <synd> hondje: mhm
[09:54] <thoreauputic> ksoze: yes, then you're stuck with killing esd from time to time
[09:54] <Tyche> hondje: I am.
[09:54] <HappyFool> xbaxe: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java   for installing java
[09:54] <holycow> bob2, smartass :)
[09:54] <holycow> hehe
[09:54] <hondje> Tyche: You are what?
[09:54] <ksoze> thoreauputic: unless I can find something that works
[09:54] <ksoze> I haven't given up yet :)
[09:54] <ksoze> but I'm close.  :)
[09:54] <zerokills> hondje: you ever gotten Counter Strike: Source to work on Ubuntu?
[09:54] <thoreauputic> ksoze: which is wwhat dmix appears to do - at least for me
[09:54] <hondje> zerokills: Never tried, last attempted w/ Sid
[09:55] <benjamin123> you think i should change the cdrom to secondary ide controller?
[09:55] <zerokills> ah
[09:55] <ksoze> right, but that sort of blowsa my initial point
[09:55] <goye2cz> My system jsut crashed for the third time since I installed ubuntu. since I'm using a different hard drive than I normally do, I suspect hardware faulty, but are there any known issues with ubuntu that could cause it to all of a sudden turn off like someone pulled the power plug?
[09:55] <hondje> Not like that, no
[09:55] <holycow> goye2cz, none that i know of, i've never heard of such a thing
[09:55] <thoreauputic> ksoze: well, this is open source: it's a work in progress at any given moment :)
[09:55] <Tyche> hondje: I am using totem-xine and I still have audio and video out of sync.
[09:55] <holycow> infact i think it would be pretty hard to do, linux shutdown is not so simple :)
[09:55] <hondje> Tyche: oh, hrm
[09:56] <hondje> Tyche: are you playing from hdd or dvd?
[09:56] <goye2cz> holycow: things are always happening to me that no one has ever heard of. I think it's just me.
[09:56] <ksoze> thoreauputic: yeah, but as we've noted, it appears sounds is much less mature than other areas
[09:56] <ksoze> for some places, I'll go with that
[09:56] <ksoze> hell, it's my living to configre and go into guts
[09:56] <geneo93> anyone know of any BeOS themes for kubuntu
[09:56] <thoreauputic> ksoze: fair enough
[09:56] <zerokills> goye2cz: or your hardware =\
[09:56] <holycow> goye2cz, ehe, i know people like you :)
[09:56] <ksoze> but when I get home and plug in my guitar, I just wanna record, you know?
[09:56] <holycow> hehe
[09:56] <xbaxe> happyfool : thanks
[09:56] <thoreauputic> ksoze: sure
[09:57] <hondje> geneo93: kde-look.org
[09:57] <Tyche> So far, just clips. Not from dvd or anything, I think they are just windows media files
[09:57] <holycow> goye2cz, what zerokills said, that pretty much sounds like hardware, sometimes its hard to debug without spending cash on replacement parts
[09:57] <hondje> Tyche: then I dunno man, that's a bummer
[09:57] <thoreauputic> ksoze: when you have time though, getting into how it works is kind of interesting
[09:57] <hondje> goye2cz: smartmontools will check up on your hdd's health
[09:58] <ksoze> I may just use the built in shoddy little recorder and an outboard mixer for tomorrow's tracks
[09:58] <goye2cz> holycow: I would think (although you never know) it should be easy for me to narrow down. I'm using a notebook and it worked fine until I put this spare hdd in it.
[09:58] <ksoze> thoreauputic: I may.  Depends on how much tinkering I want to do after work.  :)
[09:58] <holycow> ksoze, what kinda guitar you got?
[09:58] <holycow> bob2, thanks bro, that worked :)
[09:58] <benjamin123> bob2, im checking the md5sum right now:)
[09:58] <holycow> goye2cz, well then ... :)
[09:58] <ksoze> holycow: I have a pair of guitars built by Ron Thorn in California:
[09:59] <thoreauputic> ksoze: well, enjoy the other bits of Ubuntu in the meantime ;)
[09:59] <holycow> custom? l33t
[09:59] <holycow> :)
[09:59] <synd> anyone fiddle around with LFS?
[09:59] <ksoze> http://thornguitars.com/
[09:59] <ksoze> yeah, custom
[09:59] <holycow> i have a peavey wolfgang standard, before ed left
[09:59] <goye2cz> as for my skype issues... I'm installing those updates now.
[09:59] <ksoze> holycow: those are nice
[09:59] <goye2cz> says 2 minutes left.
[09:59] <ksoze> http://www.thornguitargallery.com/thorns55.htm
[09:59] <ksoze> I have numbers 55 and 56
[09:59] <holycow> so is the thorn
[09:59] <holycow> sweet
[09:59] <ksoze> thanks
[10:00] <holycow> neato :) yeah i've been meaning to setup some recording stuff too, i played around with stuff but haven't really gotten far
[10:01] <Seveas> us.archive server works again :)
[10:02] <ksoze> it seems rather tricky to get started
[10:02] <holycow> Seveas, well fuckit ... 3 mintues ago it didnt'!
[10:02] <holycow> :)
[10:02] <holycow> heh
[10:02] <holycow> you guys fix problems quickly in other words
[10:02] <holycow> -_-
[10:02] <Razor-X> allo
[10:02] <Razor-X> Seaves: it works?
[10:02] <hondje> almost had to WORK for money
[10:03] <Razor-X> ;)
[10:03] <holycow> hondje, incalls?
[10:03] <holycow> :)
[10:03] <maruko`> hey. how do i make a screenshot of my desktop?
[10:03] <hondje> holycow: guarding the fort
[10:03] <Razor-X> maruko': Gnome or KDE?
[10:03] <holycow> maruko`, hit print screen button on keyboard
[10:03] <hondje> the normal dude is on vacation, so I'm enjoying his slacking
[10:03] <maruko`> XFCE
[10:03] <zerokills> ahaha, my brother is so drunk he passed out on his bedroom floor
[10:04] <holycow> or use gimp ... file / acquire / ...
[10:04] <Razor-X> maruko`: ok then ;)
[10:04] <Razor-X> not sure, google it
[10:04] <Kartagis> hello
[10:04] <ksoze> so...favortie jukebox apps, folks?
[10:04] <holycow> maruko`, *ummm* heh :) ya what he said -->google
[10:04] <ksoze> figure I'll check a few out
[10:04] <hondje> rhythmbox
[10:04] <maruko`> hehee
[10:04] <maruko`> ok
[10:04] <holycow> ksoze, beep
[10:04] <ksoze> now that I've abandoned home recording on this thing.  :)
[10:04] <maruko`> xfce screenshot ?
[10:04] <Kartagis> how do I remove a package that has dependencies?
[10:05] <maruko`> i think that will search for screenshots of xfce desktops...
[10:05] <bob2> Kartagis: how do you mean?
[10:05] <holycow> Kartagis, it doesn't matter, just apt-get remove --purge package
[10:05] <maruko`> what should be the search string that i would use?
[10:05] <Seveas> Kartagis, with debfoster you can remova all unneeded dependencies
[10:06] <maruko`> nah nvm.
[10:06] <maruko`> holycow or use gimp ... file / acquire / ... <-- this works. thanks
[10:06] <holycow> no worries
[10:06] <Kartagis> bob2: http://www.kunduz.org/apt.txt
[10:06] <KarlosII> anyone have the linux UT2004 SAS MOD?
[10:06] <maruko`> hey glxgears is blank on my system. but the FPS is written on the xterm window
[10:07] <maruko`> every open gl app is blank
[10:07] <holycow> http://www.slash32.com/ubuntu-myth.html  <-- jesus f christ, myth tv is a lot of frickin work :)
[10:07] <holycow> ehe
[10:07] <bob2> Kartagis: so, you need to fix that
[10:07] <maruko`> and.. fluxbox's menu is soooooooooooooo small
[10:07] <bob2> Kartagis: 'sudo apt-get -f install' will probably fix it
[10:07] <Kartagis> I get the same error when I do --purge
[10:08] <maruko`> the width of the menu is the same as the cursor's width.
[10:08] <bob2> Kartagis: apt isn't going to work until you fix that
[10:09] <ksoze> ok, bedtime for me
[10:09] <ksoze> 'night folks, and thanks for the assists.
[10:09] <thoreauputic> ksoze: see you :)
[10:09] <ksoze> see you later :)
[10:09] <holycow> what, you mean windows?
[10:09] <holycow> >_<
[10:09] <KarlosII> http://www.sas.jolt.co.uk/index.php?page=download.php&action=open&id=610
[10:10] <KarlosII> anyone have it?
[10:10] <KarlosII> I need to get it
[10:10] <Kartagis> bob2: I still get the same error after I do apy-get -f install
[10:10] <bob2> Kartagis: so, fix the mess
[10:10] <holycow> what is sas?
[10:10] <bob2> Kartagis: sudo pt-get install phpmyadmin
[10:10] <bob2> I'm not sure how that got broken to begin with
[10:11] <thoreauputic> holycow: Special Air Services ? >_<
[10:11] <holycow> thoreauputic, strangely enough i just farted
[10:11] <holycow> on that note, time to get a drink :)
[10:11] <synd> time for a cigarette
[10:11] <goye2cz> while installing updates, my system shut off. What would you do first?
[10:12] <bob2> check the power cord
[10:12] <bob2> then check how hot it is
[10:12] <thoreauputic> goye2cz: sounds like you need a new system...
[10:13] <goye2cz> thoreauputic: safe bet.
[10:13] <synd> if it was a power outage, id get an APC if i were you
[10:13] <benjamin123> anyone here recommend any fonts packages from synaptic?
[10:13] <psychonate> Anyone ever make a PVR?
[10:13] <synd> at least give you enough time to safely stop the update and shutdown
[10:14] <jetscreamer> holycow: no i just meant 'The One That Suits You Best'
[10:14] <goye2cz> doesn't seem to be any hotter than usuall, the battery is in, the charger is functioning.
[10:14] <bob2> goye2cz: what sort of machine is it?
[10:14] <holycow> lol i found mine long ago, debian for servers/desktop, ubuntu for desktops for latest packages
[10:14] <goye2cz> dell inspiron 2500 notebook
[10:15] <holycow> i'm still amazed to realize that mark shuttleworth got it exactly right imho
[10:15] <holycow> say in comparison to linspire or xandros
[10:15] <hondje> yeah, I just hope he can pull a profit
[10:16] <hondje> if they can infiltrate the office, they'll be set, rico support contracts
[10:16] <Kartagis> bob2: thanks, I fixed it
[10:16] <Kartagis> bbl
[10:16] <holycow> well he has a pretty good track record
[10:16] <hondje> yeah, and he's been to space
[10:16] <hondje> that gives him a +1 modifier to all rolls
[10:16] <holycow> i can tell you that after we switch we will be subscribing to support, nothing huge but it is important to have support avialable
[10:17] <hondje> 'we'?
[10:17] <Choubaka> "Buy Ubuntu support!" "Why?" "It rocks!" "Anything else?" "Mark Shuttleworth started it, and he's been to SPACE!" "Deal."
[10:17] <holycow> yeah most of our workstations are going linux
[10:18] <hondje> Choubaka: See, it's a shoe-in :)
[10:18] <hondje> ah, cool
[10:18] <holycow> lol, you wouldn't believe how many people would sign off just on that :)
[10:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[10:22] <ws006> halo
[10:24] <errr> how do I get the 'location' bar to show in nautilus?
[10:24] <pulaski> exit
[10:24] <hondje> lol
[10:25] <thoreauputic> errr: ctrl + L
[10:25] <errr> in the older versions it was under view
[10:25] <errr> thoreauputic: I want it always there.
[10:26] <thoreauputic> errr: oh OK - well I only use "browser mode" ( actually I prefer rox filer anyway )
[10:26] <errr> not I
[10:26] <errr> I hate when things like that get moved/changed
[10:26] <thoreauputic> errr: agreed
[10:27] <errr> it almost goes against HIG to me
[10:27] <IIIEars> I just can't connect to an online server. The connection is accepted then.. Pause .. pause .. Nothing.. -???
[10:27] <IIIEars> I need a hint on UT99 - It looks and runs perfectly :)
[10:27] <thoreauputic> errr: well, i tend to agree - but I use terminal or rox 99% of the time so...
[10:28] <IIIEars> thinking symlink needed somewhere for downloaded maps
[10:29] <goye2cz> I think I'm to the last step in installing skype... how do I chnage to the directory I downloaded skype?
[10:29] <IIIEars> permissions changed?
[10:29] <thoreauputic> goye2cz: cd /path/to/directory
[10:30] <IIIEars> cd ~/skype.file  ?
[10:30] <tronza> Erm, I was trying to install Ubuntu from Distribution CD but during first steps of installation there's one "error" and it says that "insert CD, insert CD..." "not mounted blablabla".. What should I do ?
[10:31] <parabolize> run a md5sum.
[10:31] <tronza> What the heck is that ? :P
[10:31] <goye2cz> well, it's on my desktop and I'm unfamiliar with linux syntax
[10:32] <parabolize> hold on
[10:32] <hornsby> goye2cz,  to what directory did you download skype ?
[10:32] <parabolize> http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/MD5SUMS
[10:32] <goye2cz> desktop
[10:33] <thoreauputic> goye2cz: cd ~/Desktop
[10:33] <thoreauputic> note capital D
[10:33] <hornsby> goye2cz, right
[10:33] <thoreauputic> assuming this is gnome...
[10:34] <hornsby> KDE : $cd $HOME/Desktop
[10:34] <goye2cz> no such file or directory. :-/
[10:34] <hornsby> goye2cz, do : $cd
[10:35] <hornsby> goldfish, then #cd $HOME/Desktop
[10:35] <hornsby> goye2cz, :)
[10:35] <goye2cz> hornsby: nothing seemed to happen
[10:35] <thoreauputic> goye2cz:  pwd says what?
[10:35] <goye2cz> no prob. if it's easier to spell, hey.
[10:36] <hornsby> are you now in $HOME/Desktop
[10:36] <hornsby> ?
[10:36] <goye2cz> we're talkign about terminal right?
[10:36] <hornsby> right
[10:36] <thoreauputic> yes
[10:36] <IIIEars> Thanks Guys Good Night! To a newb every command is novel and interesting. What does this do? Ubuntu:$ halt  <Enter> ....
[10:37] <goye2cz> hornsby: no.
[10:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> RSoD... doesnt real do it :S
[10:37] <hornsby> then type : cd && cd /home/$Home/Desktop
[10:37] <goye2cz> I'm in home/goye2cz #
[10:37] <hornsby> assuming KDE
[10:37] <hornsby> ok then cd Desktop
[10:38] <goye2cz> hornsby: I don't know how to tellt he diff.
[10:38] <goye2cz> BOOM. there it is
[10:38] <goye2cz> so would that be Gnome?
[10:38] <thoreauputic> goye2cz: the command `pwd` tells you which dir you are in
[10:38] <hornsby> $HOME = /home/goy2cz
[10:38] <goye2cz> the command "cd Destop" did it.
[10:39] <hornsby> your desktop is in /home/goy2cz/Desktop
[10:39] <goye2cz> yes
[10:39] <hornsby> so go there
[10:39] <hornsby> :)
[10:39] <goye2cz> got it.
[10:39] <hornsby> good
[10:40] <goye2cz> HAHA! it seems to be workign.
[10:40] <hornsby> hehe ;)
[10:41] <hornsby> you did sudo dpkg -i skype{version}.deb ? right ?
[10:41] <goye2cz> now, do I have to leave that .deb file on my desktop?
[10:41] <goye2cz> yes
[10:41] <hornsby> no
[10:41] <hornsby> you can move it
[10:42] <goye2cz> cool. .... move but not delete?
[10:42] <hornsby> is skype running now ?
[10:42] <goye2cz> yes
[10:42] <hornsby> delete is ok to
[10:42] <hornsby> up to you
[10:42] <goye2cz> wonderful.
[10:42] <goye2cz> just making sure. I'm not yet familiar with the ways of linux.
[10:42] <hornsby> sure
[10:43] <hornsby> everybody had to start once
[10:43] <goye2cz> so is there anywhere I can find a list of keyboard shortcuts for linux... er... ubuntu?
[10:43] <hornsby> to make sure, there are some conflict with skype and the sound, so when you start skype, it's better if no other sound application are running
[10:44] <hornsby> at least it is so with KDE
[10:44] <hornsby> dunno about gnome
[10:44] <Turoq> hmm is there any development studio or something for gnome cause its stupid do use tabs in gedit
[10:44] <Turoq> something like visualc++ or devc++ on windows
[10:44] <Turoq> something like that
[10:44] <Guerin> emacs
[10:44] <thoreauputic> Turoq: yu can try anjuta
[10:45] <thoreauputic> *you
[10:45] <Turoq> hmm wait i chechk
[10:45] <goye2cz> is gnome or kde better for a beginner... or does it matter?
[10:45] <hornsby> matter of taste
[10:45] <thoreauputic> goye2cz: matter of taste really
[10:45] <parabolize> look in kde control center I think you can see/edit the hotkeys somewhere in there.
[10:45] <Turoq> ahh anjuta looks good
[10:45] <thoreauputic> hornsby: great minds... *G*
[10:45] <hornsby> goye2cz, you use KDE or gnole ?
[10:46] <Turoq> i'll get it
[10:46] <hornsby> thoreauputic, I ue KDE :)
[10:46] <syntaxman> gnole?  sounds like pasta :)
[10:46] <zerokills> hondje: im tearin it up on DOD
[10:46] <thoreauputic> hornsby: I use fluxbox ;)
[10:46] <goye2cz> hornsby: I'm a shameless newbie. I have no idea.
[10:46] <hornsby> never tried :)
[10:47] <hornsby> goye2cz, we allhae been newbies once :)
[10:47] <parabolize> did you install ubuntu or kubuntu?
[10:47] <Turoq> i have newest ati drivers, ati radeon mobility 9700 but quake3 is so laggy and i dont know why, if someone could help me msg me
[10:47] <clee> the Firefox prerm script is broken
[10:48] <goye2cz> I'm using ubuntu... just did the default install for all I know.
[10:48] <thoreauputic> goye2cz: in that case you have gnome
[10:48] <parabolize> gnome
[10:48] <goldfish> thoreauputic: flux is cool.
[10:48] <hornsby> ;)
[10:48] <clee> find /var/lib/mozilla-firefox/ -type d -depth -empty -exec rmdir {} \;
[10:48] <thoreauputic> goldfish: indeed
[10:48] <clee> -depth requires a depth :)
[10:48] <goye2cz> alright, the wee-man.
[10:48] <synd> fluxbox intimidates me
[10:48] <synd> im learing with damnsmall though
[10:49] <thoreauputic> synd: lots of good docs on http://fluxbox.org
[10:49] <synd> i shall check that out
[10:49] <synd> anyone use e17 ?
[10:50] <thoreauputic> not yet
[10:50] <synd> is it possible?
[10:50] <parabolize> goye2cz,  type gnome-keybinding-properties in a terminal.
[10:50] <thoreauputic> e16 is kinda pretty but I wouldn't want to live there
[10:50] <synd> understandable
[10:50] <goye2cz> so I guess the linux version of skype doesn't have the de-centralized contact list eh?
[10:51] <hornsby> right
[10:51] <thoreauputic> synd: there are a few packages for e17 floating around (16.9 actually)
[10:51] <goye2cz> cripes
[10:51] <thoreauputic> synd: ivoks packaged some for testing I think
[10:51] <hornsby> might be a way to centralize but I havent look for that
[10:52] <synd> thoreauputic: i see
[10:52] <hondje> http://nooms.de/misc/e17install.sh
[10:53] <hondje> downloads e17 from cvs and builds it
[10:53] <thoreauputic> hondje: have you tried it?
[10:54] <hondje> no, but I plan to....a guy I know did on sid, it worked fine
[10:54] <thoreauputic> hmm - interesting ...
[10:54] <hondje> just have fakeroot and dpkg-buildpackage installed, and of course req. e17 libs
[10:54] <hondje> back to work goes I
[10:56] <goye2cz> Thanks to all. You rock the party.
[10:56] <goye2cz> Time for me to get back to goofing off.
[10:57] <beep_gr> Can someone help me for the network?
[10:57] <ws006> ha
[10:58] <beep_gr> I have dial-up connection and the connection in very slow
[10:58] <beep_gr> is there any tip to see the Bps?
[10:59] <tahorg> beep_gr: apt-get install nload && nload -i 56 -o 56 ppp0
[10:59] <martinjh99> Morning all.  How do I play mp3s in Gnome?
[11:00] <thoreauputic> tahorg: what does that do?
[11:00] <tahorg> thoreauputic: try it. That won't eat your dog, I promise
[11:00] <beep_gr> tahorg: can you give me istructions because I am new on Linux especialy on ubuntu
[11:00] <tombs> martinjh99, did you try xmms ?
[11:00] <thoreauputic> martinjh99: install gstreamer0.8-mad and use rhythmbox (music player) or install xmms or beep-media-player
[11:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> martinjh99, have installed the codecs?
[11:01] <tahorg> beep_gr: ok, try the network applet then
[11:01] <martinjh99> Thanks guys - trying that now...
[11:01] <thoreauputic> tahorg: heh - I'm just curious - I'll have a look at apt-cache show nload
[11:02] <parabolize> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#installgnump3d
[11:02] <tahorg> thoreauputic: nload is a text mode bandwith viewer
[11:02] <Guerin> mmmm, yummay dog
[11:02] <tahorg> thoreauputic: really usefull
[11:02] <thoreauputic> right - so I'm reading :)
[11:03] <martinjh99> OK - installed gstreame0.8-mad and beep  load up a mp3 from cd and beep hangs ;)
[11:04] <thoreauputic> martinjh99: select the esd output plugin
[11:04] <thoreauputic> in beep
[11:04] <martinjh99> Am new to using Gnome - Used to KDE...
[11:04] <Turoq> hmm what i have missing: configure: creating ./config.status config.status: error: cannot find input file: Makefile.in Auto generation completed......unsuccessful
[11:04] <Turoq> when i try to create new project in anjuta
[11:04] <Turoq> just a normal terminal project
[11:05] <martinjh99> Thoreauputic is that the Esound Outplugin in Beep?
[11:05] <thoreauputic> tahorg: hmm - cute
[11:05] <thoreauputic> martinjh99: yep
[11:06] <martinjh99> Sorted thanks guys... :)
[11:06] <thoreauputic> Turoq: I'm guessing install build-essential
[11:06] <dancec0mmander> can someone help me with a stupid n00b question?
[11:06] <Turoq> i have em already
[11:06] <thoreauputic> dancec0mmander: of course not ;-)
[11:06] <parabolize> ask it
[11:07] <thoreauputic> dancec0mmander: just ask :)
[11:07] <dancec0mmander> ok i just installed ubuntu and i'm trying to get the internet connection working
[11:07] <dancec0mmander> it actually does load things just incredibly slowly
[11:07] <dancec0mmander> i have a cable modem connection with a dynamic IP
[11:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> is this the right url for the Ubuntu repos?
[11:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> deb http://archive.Ubuntu.com/Ubuntu breezy universe
[11:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> deb-src http://archive.Ubuntu.com/Ubuntu breezy universe
[11:08] <dancec0mmander> i tried downloading some files and the speeds i was getting was incredibly slow, so its not just firefox loading web sites
[11:08] <crimsun> Kamping_Kaiser: use CC.archive.ubuntu.com
[11:09] <crimsun> Kamping_Kaiser: where CC is your iso country code
[11:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> i thought we were supposed to avoid them for the time being?
[11:09] <crimsun> normally you'd use CC.archive
[11:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> its just my ISPs mirrors of Universe are corrupted, so i thought i should go to the top
[11:09] <parabolize> dancec0mmander: is it still fast in whatever OS you were using?
[11:10] <dancec0mmander> well XP is no longer on that machine
[11:10] <goye2cz> I am familiar with the windows based N-track Studio for multi-track recording and I use a Tascam US-122. Can anyone recommend some kind of multi-track studio I can use with ubuntu?
[11:10] <dancec0mmander> but right before I installed it the connection was running fine
[11:10] <crimsun> goye2cz: ardour
[11:10] <dancec0mmander> i DL/d the ISOs for both the liveCD and install on bittorrent in about an hour for each
[11:10] <crimsun> installable from universe, of course
[11:10] <spiral> hi
[11:11] <eleusis> hello
[11:11] <parabolize> dancec0mmander: no idea. :(
[11:11] <heatxsink> hi all i'm using hoary
[11:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi spiral
[11:11] <dancec0mmander> i guess i could put XP back on but i'd really rather not
[11:11] <heatxsink> and I think I jacked up my /etc/apt/sources.list file
[11:12] <dancec0mmander> oh well
[11:12] <dancec0mmander> thanks anyway
[11:12] <parabolize> dancec0mmander: got any other computers?
[11:12] <parabolize> on the net that is
[11:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> heatxsink. you want a new one?
[11:12] <dancec0mmander> not at home
[11:12] <thoreauputic> dancec0mmander: I think you need to be a bit more specific to get any help
[11:12] <dancec0mmander> what else do you need to know?
[11:13] <parabolize> whats your nic
[11:13] <goye2cz> crimsun: ardour sounds pretty nice. do you use it?
[11:13] <dancec0mmander> i don't know off the top of my head
[11:13] <crimsun> goye2cz: I've used it a couple years back
[11:13] <dancec0mmander> i guess i should have written this stuff down, i'm not at home at the moment
[11:14] <goye2cz> crimsun: any cons?
[11:14] <ws010> hai
[11:14] <crimsun> goye2cz: it can be a bit of an adjustment. Try it out.
[11:14] <ws010> ????
[11:15] <goye2cz> crimsun: will do.
[11:15] <zerokills> hai
[11:15] <ws010> asl
[11:15] <crimsun> ws010: this isn't the proper channel for such tactics
[11:15] <zerokills> haha
[11:15] <zerokills> strange
[11:16] <spike> Hi
[11:16] <parabolize> hello
[11:16] <zerokills> hello
[11:16] <spike> I have a little problem with ubuntu, can someone help me please?
[11:16] <xabbu|> Why does my system opens .run files in gedit?
[11:16] <zerokills> spike: whats the problem?
[11:16] <spike> I can't see the windows partitions from ubuntu, how to?
[11:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> ubuntuguide.org
[11:17] <thoreauputic> xabbu|: it sees them as scripts and thinks you want to edit them?
[11:17] <thoreauputic> xabbu|: what kind of ".run" files?
[11:17] <zerokills> spike: id check ubuntuguide.org if i were you
[11:17] <xabbu|> thoreauputic, How do I make it stop that?
[11:17] <parabolize> spike: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs
[11:18] <xabbu|> Atm its the install file for planeShift...
[11:18] <thoreauputic> xabbu|: what do you want to do with the file?
[11:18] <thoreauputic> ah I see
[11:18] <xabbu|> Its 160 mb.. its no fun open it i gedit...
[11:18] <spike> thnx people!
[11:18] <thoreauputic> xabbu|: in that case you wan to run it from a terminal I expect
[11:18] <xabbu|> okey
[11:18] <zerokills> sigh... im downloading at 47 kB/s
[11:18] <thoreauputic> xabbu|:  ./foo.run
[11:19] <synd> 
[11:19] <thoreauputic> or sh foo.run
[11:19] <crimsun> zerokills: 47 is still greater than 0
[11:19] <gm78> Hey all. is anyone else having trouble install libimlib2 right now. i am getting an md5sum mismatch
[11:19] <zerokills> crimsun: true, but i expect better out of cable
[11:20] <zerokills> now its 157
[11:21] <thoreauputic> heh I'd be over the moon if I got 47....
[11:21] <xabbu|> wtf, seems like firefox didn't save the file where it was suppoesed to.. Where does FF store things temporarily?
[11:21] <spike> parabolize: when I intent to mount the ntfs volums, I get this "mount: special device /dev/hda1 does not exist
[11:21] <spike> "
[11:21] <zerokills> desktop?
[11:21] <jetscreamer> gm78: might be the us vs uk in the sources.list, or so i heard, but i know nothing (us is borked?)
[11:21] <thoreauputic> xabbu|: what is the d/l dir set in the prefs?
[11:21] <spike> o_o
[11:21] <xabbu|> the Desktop.
[11:21] <jetscreamer> xabbu|: yeah
[11:22] <xabbu|> But the file is not there.
[11:22] <gm78> jetscreamer : is there any way i could fix this?
[11:22] <parabolize> spike: tp://www.ubuntuguide.org/#listpartitiontables what do you see?
[11:22] <jetscreamer> gm78: i know nothing, first of all. but i saw somebody say that the uk sources aren't borked.
[11:22] <jetscreamer> changed us to uk in /etc/apt/sources.list && apt-get update
[11:23] <jetscreamer> s/changed/change/
[11:23] <goldfish> hmmmm
[11:23] <xabbu|> Worked when wgeting it.
[11:24] <jetscreamer> xabbu|: does ls ~/Desktop find it?
[11:24] <goye2cz> crimsun: I'm at the download page "http://ardour.org/download.php" but for the life of me I can't figure out how to download it. It talks about debian but has no link.
[11:24] <parabolize> xabbu|: you can right click save as in firefix
[11:24] <parabolize> *firefox
[11:25] <jetscreamer> you could open the ff d/l manager and hit show location, unless that's just in moz
[11:25] <thoreauputic> goye2cz: that's not how you install stuff in Ubuntu or Debian
[11:25] <crimsun> goye2cz: above I mentioned that ardour is available in the universe repository.
[11:25] <thoreauputic> goye2cz: you use apt or synaptic
[11:25] <xabbu|> jetscreamer, nope...
[11:25] <xabbu|> But Im using wget now.
[11:26] <goye2cz> crimsun: ok, I'll give her a try.
[11:26] <hondje> goye2cz: it takes a bit of time to get used to, but once you do you'll hate using anything else
[11:27] <upgrdman> anyone have expierenve with WAP wifi and ubuntu... i know what it only works sometimes but dont know how to fix it
[11:27] <thoreauputic> goye2cz: you remember you edited your sources? Now just reload and use synaptic
[11:27] <thoreauputic> ...or apt
[11:28] <goye2cz> thoreauputic: reload and use synaptic? I just opened... or started synaptic and am looking for.... I guess something about ardour?
[11:28] <thoreauputic> use the search, Luke
[11:28] <spike> parabolize: at first, I can see all partitios of the 2 hd, but when I try to access with nautilus get an error " Nautilus hasn't installed the correct visor"
[11:28] <goye2cz> hee hee.
[11:28] <thoreauputic> and yes, search for ardour :)
[11:29] <goye2cz> I'm guessing I should install all I find?
[11:29] <Imsdle> GRRRR :( when i go to the networking setup and try and save my dail up modem settings they don't damn well save!!!!!! how can i access these via terminal
[11:29] <thoreauputic> goye2cz: umm.... probably not
[11:30] <thoreauputic> goye2cz: something like ardour-gtk i think, from memory
[11:30] <hellraiser_rob> morning folks, can anyone give me any pointers to get enemy territory running?
[11:30] <xabbu|> How did I run a .run file? ./ didn't work...
[11:31] <goye2cz> got it.
[11:31] <xabbu|> I tried sudo also
[11:31] <thoreauputic> goye2cz: you will need `jack` as well
[11:31] <heatxsink> Kamping_Kaiser: yes
[11:31] <heatxsink> Kamping_Kaiser: please!
[11:31] <zerokills> hellraiser_rob: you need Cedega to play games in Linux
[11:31] <heatxsink> Kamping_Kaiser: I was trying to get universe going
[11:31] <hellraiser_rob> errm enemy territory is cross platform mate
[11:31] <thoreauputic> xabbu|: either chmod +x the file, or try ` sh foo.run `
[11:31] <heatxsink> but I can search the repo's but when I do a apt-get install
[11:31] <heatxsink> it bombs
[11:31] <hondje> hellraiser_rob: what's the problem?
[11:32] <i3dmaster> xabbu|:sh x.sh
[11:32] <xabbu|> Okey
[11:32] <hellraiser_rob> just hangs on startup
[11:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> heatxsink back
[11:32] <hellraiser_rob> tux racer runs ok
[11:32] <zerokills> hellraiser_rob: heh, sounded like a game
[11:32] <heatxsink> Kamping_Kaiser: k
[11:32] <hondje> hellraiser_rob: start it from a console, any errors?
[11:32] <hellraiser_rob> hold on...
[11:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> heatxsink, does "apt-get update" produce errors?
[11:32] <goye2cz> thoreaputic: processing.... :-)
[11:32] <xabbu|> thoreauputic, i3dmaster, Thanks...
[11:33] <thoreauputic> xabbu|: np
[11:33] <hellraiser_rob> ha ha
[11:33] <hellraiser_rob> its done it again
[11:33] <goye2cz> thoreaputic: my clicker finger is getting cramped though
[11:33] <hellraiser_rob> how can i restart x from command guys?
[11:33] <heatxsink> oops
[11:33] <heatxsink> haha
[11:33] <hondje> hellraiser_rob: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[11:33] <heatxsink> I never did a apt-get update
[11:33] <heatxsink> duh
[11:34] <heatxsink> Kamping_Kaiser: can I msg you?
[11:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> sure
[11:34] <hondje> hellraiser_rob: what errors did you get from running ET in a console?
[11:34] <hellraiser_rob> i can't tell, i'm kind of stuck in limbo here, it hangs the app on the very top layer
[11:35] <hondje> hellraiser_rob: hrm
[11:35] <hellraiser_rob> but i move the screen about using that virtual screen size thing
[11:35] <hondje> hellraiser_rob: ctrl-alt-f1 and login, then run 'pkill -9 et'
[11:35] <hondje> then ctrl-alt-f7 back to x
[11:36] <Mez> or alt+f7 works to gert X back (from a tty rather than x no need for ctrl button)
[11:36] <goye2cz> I ran my notebook only on the battery until the battery almost ran out and had no more power interruption problems. Now I'm pluggedin and charging the battery. I wonder fi the charger was making something too hot?
[11:37] <goye2cz> never had that problem with windows. strange indeed.
[11:38] <goye2cz> ok, synaptic finished doing it's thing, is there another step for installing ardour?
[11:38] <hellraiser_rob> back, had to kill gdm and restart it :9
[11:39] <hellraiser_rob> is there a log so i can see what was printed in the console?
[11:39] <hondje> nope :)
[11:39] <hellraiser_rob> gash
[11:39] <hellraiser_rob> that surprises me
[11:40] <thoreauputic> goye2cz: try typing ` ardour` in a termianl to run it
[11:40] <thoreauputic> *terminal
[11:40] <hondje> hellraiser_rob: I was just looking for ways to capture it
[11:40] <hondje> ctrl-alt-f1, then pkill -9 et.x, then ctrl-alt-f7 should bring you back and you can see the output
[11:40] <hellraiser_rob> any luck?
[11:41] <hellraiser_rob> ok i'll have to write that down and try again
[11:41] <hellraiser_rob> ha ha
[11:41] <nxv__> hi, where do i setup my timezone? my kde time is according to my local time, my system time isn't
[11:41] <hondje> then change resolution in system -> preferences -> screen resolution, then put it back
[11:41] <thoreauputic> nxv__: you're dual booting right?
[11:41] <goye2cz> thoreaputic: there it is... so installing jack, I searched in synaptic and there are lots of different possibilities...
[11:42] <hellraiser_rob> ok i'll going to try agsin
[11:42] <hondje> unless there's a way to launch it from console w/ $DISPLAY
[11:42] <thoreauputic> goye2cz: you want the jack server daemon
[11:43] <thoreauputic> goye2cz: jackd in other words, sorry
[11:43] <goye2cz> ok
[11:44] <thoreauputic> goye2cz: but configuring ardour is beyond my experience (in fact I haven't used it)
[11:45] <nxv__> thoreauputic: what do u mean with dual boot, i have ubuntu parallel to my wintendo if that's what u mean
[11:45] <hellraiser_rob> err that big black block is still covering most of my screen
[11:45] <thoreauputic> goye2cz: if crimsun is around he may be able to help
[11:46] <thoreauputic> nxv__: yes. Run ` sudo base-config` and when it asks about GMT /UTC  change to the other option
[11:46] <thoreauputic> the one that isn't highlighted
[11:46] <thoreauputic> then just accept the other defaults as they are already
[11:47] <hellraiser_rob> ok
[11:47] <hellraiser_rob> i can get to some of the console output
[11:47] <goye2cz> thoreaputic: alright. right now though, I'm having problems with jack. It was already installed, I re-installed it, and ardour still says jack wont' go.
[11:47] <hellraiser_rob> none of its that revealing
[11:47] <hondje> wow, shit
[11:47] <hondje> I just crashed this thing hard
[11:47] <goye2cz> I did shut down skype first.
[11:47] <hellraiser_rob> oh hold on
[11:47] <hondje> didn't save my work, damn it
[11:47] <nxv__> thoreauputic: thx for your fast reply
[11:48] <thoreauputic> goye2cz: at this point you need to read the manual for jack ;)
[11:48] <hellraiser_rob> the last thing it does before hanging is -------- sound initilization --------
[11:48] <goye2cz> alright
[11:48] <thoreauputic> goye2cz:  man jack I think
[11:48] <hondje> hellraiser_rob: killall esd, and try again
[11:48] <hellraiser_rob> ok
[11:48] <thoreauputic> goye2cz: good luck !
[11:48] <iNDRi> hello i need help pls
[11:48] <parabolize> Has anyone got doom3 to run with the 7664 Nvidia drivers in Hoary? I need to use the 7664 version because I got a GF6200.
[11:49] <hondje> parabolize: did you run into a problem?
[11:49] <martinjh99> How do I change what program Gnome uses to open a file?  Need to change mp3's to xmms.
[11:49] <thoreauputic> goye2cz: sorry - man jackd
[11:49] <parabolize> yes
[11:49] <iNDRi> i have the ubuntu live cd and for the network configuration is giving me a password somone knows how to get that pass ?
[11:49] <parabolize> libc6 is to old I think
[11:50] <hondje> parabolize: hrm, not at home so I can't check it
[11:50] <keffo> anyone got GTA San Andreas working under linux yet?
[11:50] <Choubaka> Hmm.
[11:51] <hondje> Jun 11 03:42:53 localhost kernel: NVRM: Xid: 12, COCOD 00000000 00000000 00000030 00000224 00000000 ....naughty nvidia
[11:52] <martinjh99> How do I change what program Gnome uses to open a file?  Need to change mp3's to xmms.
[11:52] <iluciv> hi whats the command to find out which kerenl you have installed
[11:52] <hellraiser_rob> killall esd worked!
[11:53] <goldfish> martinjh99: open nautilus, right click on an .ms should see an open with setting...
[11:53] <goye2cz> crimsun: you still in here? could you help more rwith ardour?
[11:53] <hondje> iluciv: uname -r
[11:53] <goldfish> martinjh99: *.mp3
[11:53] <hondje> hellraiser_rob: good deal :)
[11:53] <hellraiser_rob> the game runs now, with sound! what does this mean?
[11:53] <iluciv> hondje: cheers
[11:53] <hellraiser_rob> hondje: your a legend
[11:53] <hondje> hellraiser_rob: that it was waiting for esd to free up the sound
[11:53] <hondje> hellraiser_rob: I suffered a sudden crash on the scale of a bsod for you ;-)
[11:54] <Choubaka> I wonder if it would be possible to have soikko (semi-proper Finnish spell-checking mainly for openoffice) in multiverse for Breezy (soikko is non-free though)
[11:54] <hellraiser_rob> hondje: sorry what happened?
[11:54] <martinjh99> GOldfish> I want to change it so it works when I double click it rather than having to right click it
[11:54] <hondje> just future note: do not export DISPLAY=:0 and then run et in a console :)
[11:54] <hondje> hellraiser_rob: doing that caused mayhem in the nvidia card, wish it kept logs :D
[11:54] <hellraiser_rob> hondje: whats the solution to stop the hanging in the future?
[11:55] <konrad> hello, I have a problem with nvidia drivers from nvidia.com (installer) and from DEBs now too :/
[11:55] <hellraiser_rob> hondje: whoops, sorry ;)
[11:55] <konrad> in Xorg.log says that GLX extention can't be loaded
[11:55] <hondje> hellraiser_rob: easy that
[11:55] <parabolize> konrad what version
[11:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> konrad remove glx... i think its safe
[11:55] <hondje> hellraiser_rob: open a terminal, type 'file `which et`'
[11:55] <hondje> using ` marks but not the 's
[11:56] <konrad> Kamping_Kaiser: I need 3D acceleration
[11:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> the nvidia driver provides it
[11:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> i thought
[11:56] <konrad> parabolize: 7174 from DEBs
[11:56] <hellraiser_rob> /usr/local/bin/et: symbolic link to `/usr/local/games/enemy-territory/et'
[11:56] <mlambie> what tools exist to stress test a machine? I have three new Ubuntu servers here on my floor waiting to go into the racks next week, and i want to hurt them before we install them.
[11:57] <hondje> hellraiser_rob: okay, now sudo gedit /usr/local/games/enemy-territory/et
[11:57] <parabolize> konrad you uninstall the one you got from nv before you tried the deb again?
[11:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> a deb?
[11:57] <hondje> hellraiser_rob: on the fourth line, hit enter to make a space and put in killall esd
[11:57] <konrad> parabolize: of course
[11:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> i thought nvidia only did .run
[11:58] <parabolize> konrad: no idea then
[11:58] <hellraiser_rob> just below the 3 comments?
[11:58] <hondje> hellraiser_rob: yes, and above the cd
[11:58] <hondje> hellraiser_rob: then save it, and you're good to go
[11:58] <konrad> Kamping_Kaiser: I had drivers from DEB, then wanted nvidia.com's newer version, but it didn't work
[11:58] <Coily> what's the website for copying long text to?
[11:58] <hellraiser_rob> hondje: your a legend
[11:58] <hondje> thanks, hellraiser_rob
[11:58] <Coily> and making a link available to others
[11:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> konrad, did you edit xorg.conf by hand or with dpkg-reconfigure?
[11:58] <hellraiser_rob> this ubuntu stuff isn't that bad when you have gurus to help you out ;)
[11:58] <thoreauputic> Coily: try pastebin.com
[11:58] <TobiasFar> hi
[11:59] <hondje> oh, I'm no guru at all
[11:59] <Coily> thoreauputic thats it! thanks
[11:59] <thoreauputic> :)
[11:59] <hellraiser_rob> shall i move onto my next problem now? hehe
[11:59] <TobiasFar> is there a way to get also write access to a mounted ntfs partition?
[11:59] <hondje> :) sure, I got a few before work beckons
[11:59] <Seveas> TobiasFar, google for captive ntfs
[11:59] <konrad> Kamping_Kaiser: yes, of course - it is not my fault, because I had wortking DEB's drivers befoure Itried to install nvidia.com's release
[11:59] <hellraiser_rob> i can't get anyplugins working for mozilla
[11:59] <hondje> what's so hard about nvidia's release? :-/
[12:00] <hellraiser_rob> (video plugins)
[12:00] <hellraiser_rob> could well be to do with the sound setting s again?
[12:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> konrad, i was just wondering if "nv" had been replaced with "nvidia"
[12:00] <konrad> hondje: don't work - sanity error
[12:00] <hondje> konrad: odd, you had kernle headers and source?
[12:00] <hondje> hellraiser_rob: sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer ?
[12:00] <Seveas> hondje, you don;t need kernel source :)
[12:01] <hellraiser_rob> yeah i got that
[12:01] <konrad> Kamping_Kaiser: everything is OK, I have been installig nvidia drivers meny times
[12:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> seveas, you need the headers
[12:01] <hellraiser_rob> loads a random amount of movie, then stops
[12:01] <Seveas> Kamping_Kaiser, i know
[12:01] <Seveas> but not the sourrce :
[12:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[12:01] <hondje> Seveas: it's nice to have though, and I think you need it for --add-this-kernel
[12:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> no, not as such
[12:01] <GULZADIN> How long does Shipit take to ship the CD's ?
[12:01] <konrad> hondje: I have everything
[12:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> gulzaidin, long time
[12:01] <hondje> hellraiser_rob: w32codecs too?
[12:01] <GULZADIN> Kamping_Kaiser: Approximately?
[12:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> konrad, are you using breezy or hoary
[12:02] <hondje> konrad: try it with the --add-this-kernel switch
[12:02] <hellraiser_rob> hondje: yup
[12:02] <konrad> hondje: just removed DEBs, tried nvidia-installer and fall back to DEB's
[12:02] <konrad> Kamping_Kaiser: hoary
[12:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> gulzaidin, well i am still waiting for Hoary cds, and i preordered. i got my wartys in about 3 months
[12:03] <GULZADIN> woaa!
[12:03] <GULZADIN> long time eh
[12:03] <konrad> hondje: I'll send you Error message which nvidia-installer provide - very strange on DCC
[12:03] <hondje> konrad: sure
[12:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> oh yeh
[12:03] <GULZADIN> by the way, Hoary and Wartys are different versions of Ubuntu ?
[12:03] <hellraiser_rob> yup
[12:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> yes
[12:03] <GULZADIN> kk
[12:03] <hondje> konrad: oh wait, won't work
[12:03] <konrad> hondje: :(
[12:03] <GULZADIN> What makes Ubuntu different from other distros ?
[12:03] <konrad> here I can't
[12:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> gulzadin, i use it
[12:04] <GULZADIN> lol
[12:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> but i use Debian :$
[12:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> ;)
[12:04] <GULZADIN> there has to be something good about Ubuntu that everyone says, "Get Ubuntu"
[12:04] <GULZADIN> :\
[12:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> gulzadin, it just seems to be right for ppl
[12:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> not everyone, but  a lot
[12:04] <GULZADIN> Ease of use?
[12:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> they do Gnome realy well
[12:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> yes, is one
[12:05] <thoreauputic> GULZADIN: what makes it different is that people are constantly asking why it's different ;)
[12:05] <konrad> hondje: have you received it?
[12:05] <hondje> konrad: still getting it :)
[12:05] <GULZADIN> lol
[12:05] <konrad> hondje: google knows nothing
[12:05] <hondje> hellraiser_rob: no clue, man...plugins never like me
[12:06] <hondje> that's why I use ubuntu on my desktop, everything else gets ol' debian
[12:06] <konrad> hondje: it was similar problem with AMD64, but I have k7
[12:06] <goye2cz> I keep gettinga message to stop the an application that might be interfering with stuff.
[12:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> konrad, i had a problem installing, but i was using breezy
[12:06] <hondje> konrad: okay, dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[12:07] <thoreauputic> goye2cz: lsof /dev/snd/*  and kill whatever is blocking jackd (most likely esd)
[12:07] <Rux> i'm having an issue with dsl.  says  the file /etc/ppp/peers/dsl-provider does not existe... create it or use a command line argument to use another file in the ... (same directory)
[12:07] <Rux> basically the file's not there
[12:08] <konrad> nvidia-glx     nvidia-kernel- 1.0.7174-0ubun  nvidia-kernel- 1.0.7174+1    nvidia-setting 1.0-3ubuntu2
[12:08] <goye2cz> with that command it simply gives me another prompt.
[12:09] <konrad> nvidia-glx     1.0.7174-0ubun NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver
[12:09] <konrad> ii  nvidia-kernel- 1.0.7174-0ubun NVIDIA binary kernel module for Linux 2.6.10
[12:09] <konrad> ii  nvidia-kernel- 1.0.7174+1     NVIDIA binary kernel module common files
[12:09] <konrad> ii  nvidia-setting
[12:09] <Mahl> I got a 52 x Burner....Dma is enabled for that burner but still k3b only manages to burn at 12 x max... (between 5x and 12x)
[12:09] <Mahl> whats wrong?
[12:09] <jetscreamer> media?
[12:09] <hondje> konrad: okay, thanks
[12:09] <Mahl> ?
[12:09] <thoreauputic> Rux: try `sudo touch /etc/ppp/peers/dsl-provider `
[12:09] <jetscreamer> aka your cdrw is only 12x?
[12:09] <jetscreamer> medium.. the platter
[12:10] <thoreauputic> Rux: that should at least create the file...
[12:10] <Mahl> but im burning CD-R cd's and not CD-RW's
[12:10] <goye2cz> thoreauputic: does that mean I have no sound apps running?
[12:10] <jetscreamer> ok your CD-R is only 12x ?
[12:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> darth mahl - i sense a disturbance in the force
[12:10] <hondje> konrad: sudo apt-get install deborphan
[12:10] <Mahl> no
[12:10] <konrad> hondje: something with tls probably, maybe I need LD_pPRELOAD?
[12:10] <Mahl> CD-R is 52 X....CD Burner is 52 X
[12:10] <keikoz> hi all$*
[12:10] <jetscreamer> ah ok
[12:10] <thoreauputic> goye2cz: hmm...not necessarily: read the error message carefully
[12:10] <hondje> konrad: I think stuff is sticking around after it should have left
[12:10] <Mahl> Kamping_Kaiser ... ?
[12:11] <Mahl> So what could be it?
[12:11] <thoreauputic> goye2cz: but I'm no sound guru, I'm afraid
[12:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> mahl, i dont know. i have never burned a cd with Linux :O
[12:11] <thoreauputic> goye2cz: jackd can be pretty tricky
[12:11] <konrad> hondje: impossilbe, I've checkeg everything many times
[12:12] <jetscreamer> all my medium is slow, i've yet to be able to max my writing out to 52. the burner does it though.
[12:12] <goye2cz> thoreauputic: no prob man. I did your lsof /dev/snd/* and it just didn't do much. just like I hit enter.
[12:12] <konrad> hondje: problem is probably with tls liblary
[12:12] <ralf> anyone has successful used ettercap with WiFi?
[12:12] <thoreauputic> goye2cz: yeah - sometimes it lists some running process or other
[12:13] <hondje> konrad: I would dpkg -P nvidia*
[12:13] <Mahl> well
[12:13] <Mahl> I get 5x-12X
[12:13] <thoreauputic> goye2cz: lsof lists "open files" - devices and files that are in use (everything is a file in linux)
[12:13] <konrad> http://republika.pl/kejk/nv.log
[12:13] <hondje> I don't see why dpkg would list them if there wasn't something around :-/
[12:14] <konrad> hondje: done
[12:14] <goye2cz> holy crap, that's a lot of files.
[12:14] <konrad> hondje: I always "pure" confing after unintalling
[12:14] <hondje> ah, --purge
[12:14] <konrad> hehe, mistake :)
[12:14] <thoreauputic> goye2cz: hahah - you didn't run lsof without arguments, did you?
[12:15] <goye2cz> ummm.... no... of course not.... welll...... yeah.
[12:15] <parabolize> :)
[12:15] <thoreauputic> goye2cz: if that sort of thing happens, use ctrl+ C to get out of the running process
[12:15] <thoreauputic> goye2cz: :)
[12:16] <hondje> konrad: hrm, okay, this IS weird
[12:16] <goye2cz> thoreauputic: It finished pretty quick. but I was wondering what I had gotten myself into.
[12:16] <hondje> I have /usr/lib/libnvidia-tls.so.1.0.7664, and /usr/lib/tls/libnvidia-tls.so.1.0.7664
[12:16] <hondje> so wtf?
[12:17] <thoreauputic> goye2cz: you can easily get into endless loops if you want with one line
[12:17] <thoreauputic> goye2cz: ctrl+c is a useful out
[12:17] <konrad> hondje: nv.log is still sending - http://republika.pl/kejk/nv.log
[12:17] <venom> hello
[12:17] <Mahl> jetscreamer, i set k3b to use manual buffer size
[12:17] <Mahl> set it at 80
[12:17] <Mahl> now it burns at 30 x
[12:18] <Mahl> almost 40
[12:18] <jetscreamer> what was it set at
[12:18] <goye2cz> thoreauputic: thanks, I remember that mess from back in the day when I used to write game programs on a TRS80. I've got the dynebolic live cd and it's supposed to be good for audio I guess, I jsut can't figure out how to make any of my usb things work with it.
[12:18] <Mahl> 4 mb
[12:18] <parabolize> Mahl you test the cd?
[12:18] <jetscreamer> i played adventure on a trash80 when i was a kid
[12:18] <Mahl> im gonna test the cd now
[12:19] <thoreauputic> goye2cz: sound in linux is a bit like alchemy, I suspect... *grin*
[12:19] <Mahl> its done burning
[12:19] <goye2cz> thoreauputic: wonderful
[12:19] <Mahl> CD Works perfectly
[12:19] <parabolize> cool
[12:20] <goye2cz> thoreauputic: do you know if using linux in a DAW application is very popular or do I have to be some kind of linux know it all to even want to try?
[12:20] <gm78> i am running hoary right now. how do i disable esd so the process won't load anymore?
[12:20] <Mahl> nice! instead of using 10 minutes it now uses 1 minute
[12:20] <Mahl> :D
[12:20] <thoreauputic> goye2cz: since i don't know what DAW stands for, I guess I can't answer...
[12:21] <goye2cz> crimsun: any idea how I can solve problems with jackd now?
[12:21] <goye2cz> thoreauputic: sorry, digital audio workstation.
[12:21] <konrad> hondje: : http://republika.pl/kejk/nv.log
[12:21] <hondje> konrad: just read it
[12:21] <hondje> that makes no sense
[12:21] <Mez> yay for gaim 1.3.1
[12:21] <thoreauputic> goye2cz: ah I see - well if you can find a guru like crimsun, you might short cut the process
[12:21] <Mahl> mez: It rocks
[12:22] <Mez> yeah I know Mahl
[12:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> mez, is 1.3.1 out?
[12:22] <Mez> I just backported it :D
[12:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> i only have 1.3
[12:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> :S
[12:22] <Mez> I just backported it Kamping_Kaiser
[12:22] <goye2cz> any linux recording studio gurus out there?
[12:22] <Mez> http://www.sourceguru.net/ubuntu/hoary/backports/
[12:22] <Mahl> What does *backport* mean?
[12:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> i use breezy :S i should have it
[12:22] <Mez> get the gaim .debs (all 3
[12:22] <Mez> put them in a dir
[12:22] <thoreauputic> goye2cz: I believe the apps are actually very good - but getting the config right isn't exactly... trivial
[12:22] <Mahl> Oh I see
[12:22] <Mez> Kamping_Kaiser, I'm going to build for breezy in a mo
[12:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok.
[12:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> upgrade?
[12:23] <konrad> hondje: no-one had that problem, so I have to manage with this myself :(
[12:23] <goye2cz> thoreauputic: yeah, widnows is fairly easy as far as that goes, but getting it to work like  well oiled machine can be a nightmare.
[12:23] <Mahl> got the changelog Mez?
[12:23] <Mez> Kamping_Kaiser, yeah I'll be uilding gaim for breezy :D
[12:23] <hondje> konrad: maybe use --no-recursion
[12:23] <Mez> Mahl; - changelog for what ?
[12:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> :) cool mez
[12:23] <thoreauputic> goye2cz: I struggled to get timidity and rosegarden working for midis - took me a couple of days but when it worked I did a little jig... *G*
[12:24] <konrad> hondje: now even DEBs don't work, so have to do some experiments - I'll try turn off tls
[12:24] <Mahl> from 1.3.0 to 1.3.1 gaim
[12:24] <Mez> oh actually Kamping_Kaiser my mat'es built it for breezy (if you just want a .debn
[12:24] <konrad> hondje: I'll send my results :)
[12:24] <Mez> oh actually Kamping_Kaiser my mat'es built it for breezy (if you just want a .deb) (
[12:24] <Mez> *
[12:25] <goye2cz> anyone know much about audio with ubuntu? I'm trying to get jack and ardour working.
[12:25] <hondje> konrad: --no-recursion, --force-tls=[TLS TYPE] , -e or maybe tring from --extract-only
[12:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> mez, I'll wait :) i have a shaped net connection anyway
[12:25] <Mez> Kamping_Kaiser, fair enough
[12:25] <hondje> poor guy, --force-tls or --no-recursion would ahve done it I bet
[12:26] <Mez> I'm going to build for breezy anyways :D with the source aswell
[12:26] <xabbu|> Is there some way to search the system after a folder?
[12:26] <hondje> xabbu|: find
[12:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> or locate
[12:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> if its up to date
[12:27] <hondje> or ls -lR | grep :)
[12:27] <Mahl> The cedega room is dead...can anybody in here help me with it?
[12:27] <hondje> Mahl: maybe, I paid them money for a couple years, maybe I learned something :)
[12:27] <hondje> can ls show absolute paths?
[12:28] <Mahl> Well...im installing a 2 cd game....Sometimes when it asks for cd no 2....its possible to eject...or make an iso out of no 2 and mount it over the cd
[12:28] <Mahl> but this time...im trying to install sid meiers pirates which is supported by cedega
[12:28] <Mahl> No chance in hell can I eject the cd
[12:28] <Mahl> or unmount it
[12:28] <Mahl> So how they installed it is beyond me
[12:28] <hondje> Mahl: are there both setup.exe and install.exe on the cdrom?
[12:28] <thoreauputic> goye2cz: this looks entertaining: >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DrainingTheLinuxAudioSwamp
[12:29] <hondje> diablo2 had that particular problem, using the wroong one wouldnt let you eject
[12:29] <Mahl> theres just an setup file
[12:29] <hondje> okay, are you calling it by absolute path?
[12:29] <Mahl> meaning?
[12:29] <hondje> like, cedega /media/cdrom0/setup.exe
[12:29] <hondje> and not cd /media/cdrom0; cedega setup.exe
[12:29] <Mahl> tried both man...
[12:30] <hondje> how about umount -l
[12:30] <Mahl> that doesnt work
[12:30] <hondje> hrm
[12:30] <hondje> copy and mount to the loopback?
[12:30] <Mahl> tried
[12:30] <gRRosminet> Hello everybody
[12:31] <hondje> wow, ain't nothing working
[12:31] <hondje> what if you mount by dev, ie mount /dev/hdc
[12:31] <hondje> can you eject then?
[12:32] <goye2cz> thoreauputic: is it possible I'm running jackd under a different user?
[12:32] <goye2cz> thoreauputic: how do I find out? fix it?
[12:32] <thoreauputic> goye2cz: only if you used root or sudo
[12:32] <hondje> goye2cz: in a terminal, pgrep jack
[12:33] <thoreauputic> ps aux | grep jack I suppose (while it's running)
[12:33] <thoreauputic> yeah, pgrep is more elegant :)
[12:33] <Mahl> trying hondje
[12:33] <hondje> pgrep saves typing...please, think of the keys :)
[12:33] <thoreauputic> heheh
[12:34] <hondje> it basically does ps aux | grep term | awk '{print $2}'
[12:34] <hondje> But you can also do fun stuff like pgrep -u foo, where foo is a user
[12:34] <bigfoot1> hello. My archive manager (file roller) can't work with rar files. How can I make it work?
[12:34] <hondje> pkill -u is fun when your coworkers suck
[12:34] <hondje> bigfoot1: install unrar
[12:34] <goye2cz> thoreauputic: ok.... it gave me a bunch of numbers
[12:34] <thoreauputic> goye2cz: I suggest you try `sudo pkill esd` before running jackd (of course you have to resurrect it afterards)
[12:34] <Mahl> I cannot run the setup nor install the msi files outside of the /media/cdrom folder
[12:35] <bigfoot1> hondje, i installed freeunrar, or a filename like that. Do i still need unrar?
[12:35] <gRRosminet> I'd like to ask you how to do to make "sudo" aware of my new root password ?
[12:35] <hondje> gRRosminet: that's not how sudo works
[12:35] <thoreauputic> goye2cz: if each number is associated with jackd, kill the lot ( eg killall jackd )
[12:35] <hondje> sudo wants your passwd
[12:35] <thoreauputic> goye2cz: then try again...
[12:35] <hondje> pkill jackd
[12:35] <hondje> pkill -9 jackd and get brutal :D
[12:36] <bigfoot1> hondje, i got unrar-nonfree. So do i still need unrar to make file-roller work with rar files?
[12:36] <thoreauputic> hondje: I like killall -KILL  ;)
[12:36] <hondje> thoreauputic: hehe, always a nice one
[12:36] <hondje> really beat it in
[12:36] <goye2cz> thoreauputic: now I'm left with one of these ">"
[12:36] <thoreauputic> heheh
[12:37] <bigfoot1> hondje, ?
[12:37] <hondje> bigfoot1: I'm rtfm on it
[12:37] <thoreauputic> goye2cz: Ok that suggests something is running - try ctrl + C
[12:37] <bigfoot1> what's rtfm?
[12:37] <thoreauputic> or or just close that term...
[12:37] <hondje> reading the f**king manual
[12:37] <bigfoot1> By the way, in synaptic, it says that if i want to install unrar, it will uninstall unrar-nonfree. 8-)
[12:37] <hondje> stfw is searching the naughty web
[12:38] <Mahl> hondje, unable to eject cd...
[12:38] <Mahl> this..pisses me off
[12:38] <hondje> Mahl: how about using point2play?
[12:38] <hondje> bigfoot1: yeah, don't do that
[12:38] <Mahl> I got an idea mind you
[12:38] <Mahl> and thats not running it in terminal
[12:38] <Mahl> but thru gnome
[12:38] <bigfoot1> hondje, ok.
[12:38] <vampire123> ubuntu has new version
[12:38] <vampire123> it is so nice
[12:38] <hondje> Mahl: maybe with exec
[12:38] <vampire123> i like it
[12:39] <goye2cz> thoreauputic: no dice. I need food. Thanks for your help, I'll have to try this again later.
[12:39] <thoreauputic> Mahl: my somewhay insecure answer to recacitrant ejection is ` sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/eject `
[12:39] <bigfoot1> does anybody know how you can find out all the I.P.'s your computer is connected to?
[12:39] <gRRosminet> hondje, at installation, I have defined a user "a" with password "A" so the root password also is "A" ... I have done "su -" and changed my root password to "B" but when I try to run an application using sudo, the password is still "A" (but when I do "su -" the password is the "B")
[12:39] <thoreauputic> goye2cz: OK - Bon appetit ... and good luck
[12:39] <iluciv> hi is there a place where the v4l cards are listed
[12:39] <LadyRoot> bigfoot1, netstat
[12:39] <theD3viL> If any ready to help me with shoutcast radio server on linux please help me!
[12:40] <theD3viL> It says shoutcast is sleeping .. listeners 0
[12:40] <hondje> gRRosminet: sudo isn't root
[12:40] <bigfoot1> LadyRoot, okay. I tried that now. There's a lot of information. Which ones are the relevant ones?
[12:41] <hondje> sudo grants you permission to do something normally root only can, though in ubuntu you can do all things
[12:41] <bigfoot1> Does anybody in this room have their archive manager (file-roller) working with rar files?
[12:41] <gRRosminet> hondje, do you mean there is a "sudo" user with it's own password ?
[12:41] <hondje> only way to make sudo passwd the same as root is to change your users passwd to be the same
[12:41] <Mahl> will that eject the cdrom drive forcefully thoreauputic without messing up anything?
[12:41] <hondje> gRRosminet: sudo only asks passwd to confirm it's you
[12:41] <thoreauputic> Mahl: it makes the eject command run suid root
[12:42] <gRRosminet> hondje, strange : on other distributions, it asks for root password ....
[12:42] <hondje> if you want to do a command as root, then you use su -c
[12:42] <thoreauputic> Mahl: helped me, but it is regarded as a slight security issue
[12:42] <LadyRoot> bigfoot1, netstat --numeric-hosts|less
[12:42] <LadyRoot> and netstat -? :)
[12:43] <thoreauputic> Mahl: once done, when you run eject, the sytem thinks you are running it as root
[12:43] <thoreauputic> *system
[12:43] <bigfoot1> I can unrar files in the terminal, but not in fileroller/archivemanager.
[12:43] <hondje> gRRosminet: They weren't using sudo correctly then...debian does it right as well, so does slackware and all the commercial UNIX I have used
[12:43] <hondje> bigfoot1: http://fileroller.sourceforge.net/
[12:43] <hondje> according to that, unrar was added in a version later than the one ubuntu has
[12:43] <thoreauputic> Mahl: the other trick to unmount the cd is to run ` umount -l /dev/cdrom `
[12:44] <iluciv> I need help with video for linux stuff can anyone help at all
[12:44] <hondje> bigfoot1: so I'd install rar, too, and try again
[12:44] <hondje> bigfoot1: after that, I'd give up :)
[12:44] <thoreauputic> Mahl:  also known as "lazy umount"
[12:44] <Mahl> Doesnt work
[12:44] <bigfoot1> Mahl, what doesn't work?
[12:44] <thoreauputic> Works Here (TM)
[12:44] <bigfoot1> Mahl, oh sorry. I thought you may have been talking to me. 8-)
[12:44] <zerokills> hondje: i got Counter Strike: Source to find servers finally
[12:45] <hondje> the point of sudo is to let your worker bees go about their lives without exposing root, which is normally HUGE and locked in a safe, at least in my experience
[12:45] <Mahl> This means ill never be able to install the game
[12:45] <Mahl> *sob*
[12:45] <gRRosminet> ok, thanks for informations
[12:45] <hondje> zerokills: good deal :)
[12:45] <hondje> You're welcome
[12:45] <thoreauputic> Mahl: did you try "sudo umount -l /dev/cdrom ` ?
[12:46] <hondje> try fuser /media/cdrom0 (or wahtever)
[12:46] <hondje> make sure it's only cedega running on it
[12:46] <bigfoot1> hondje, I think it works!!!
[12:46] <bigfoot1> thanks.
[12:46] <hondje> bigfoot1: you're welcome
[12:46] <Mahl> I love you thoreauputic
[12:47] <thoreauputic> aha
[12:47] <bigfoot1> i love thoreauputic, too.
[12:47] <Mahl> what does the l do
[12:47] <hondje> Mahl: lazy
[12:47] <Mahl> Oooo
[12:47] <hondje> hey wait, I told you -l an hour ago! :P
[12:47] <thoreauputic> Mahl: it's risky - it fixes things as wella s it can after the umount
[12:47] <Mahl> but how does it actually work?
[12:47] <bob2> hehehe
[12:47] <Mahl> Sorry hondje
[12:47] <Mahl> I love you too then
[12:48] <filosof> how do i make program start runing on boot ?
[12:48] <zerokills> hondje: if i CTRL+ALT+F1, what do i type in at prompt to get back into gnome?
[12:48] <hondje> [04:30]  hondje how about umount -l
[12:48] <hondje> hehehehe
[12:49] <kimo> zerokills: ctrl+alt+f7
[12:49] <hondje> yep yep
[12:49] <zerokills> k thanks kimo
[12:49] <zerokills> brb
[12:49] <hondje> it's not who says it, it's who gets the guy to grok it ;-)
[12:50] <filosof> how do i make program start runing on boot ?
[12:50] <hondje> and the Ubuntu Community is now richer
[12:50] <d3bian> hello everyone
[12:50] <hondje> filosof: booting into gnome, or booting up ?
[12:50] <filosof> booting when server is booting up
[12:51] <zerokills> just used forced quit for my first time
[12:51] <hondje> you make a script to launch it and put it in /etc/init.d is the proper way
[12:51] <hondje> zerokills: forced quit?
[12:51] <zerokills> hondje: yea
[12:51] <hondje> ?
[12:52] <zerokills> hondje: if a window freezes, you can use Forced Quit to close it
[12:52] <filosof>  hondje  and the script will be run automaticly on system boot ?
[12:52] <hondje> filosof: you have to make links in the /etc/rcN.d directory, too
[12:52] <hondje> zerokills: oh, yeah!
[12:53] <zerokills> hondje: right-click on a panel, choose Add to Panel, and youll find Forced Quit in there
[12:53] <rss> hi, evolution is not coming up and am getting this error:
[12:53] <zerokills> hondje: its sweet
[12:53] <hondje> filosof: but if it's just a command and I'm feeling lazy, I'll add it to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[12:53] <rss> Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib
[12:53] <hondje> zerokills: ah, cool...I've been using xkill
[12:53] <rss> the locale that is set, I think is, en_IN
[12:53] <zerokills> hondje: whatever works
[12:54] <hondje> xkill is rude :-/
[12:54] <rss> it is on Horay
[12:54] <filosof>  hondje  hm..., but wich one is proper way ?
[12:54] <hondje> like, xkill xine and it'll leave a process
[12:54] <rss> hoary
[12:54] <zerokills> gotta refart my computer, brb
[12:54] <hondje> filosof: the long hard way, of course :)
[12:55] <filosof> lol
[12:55] <hondje> filosof: what are you trying to have start on boot?
[12:55] <filosof>  hondje  apache2 and mysql and rootcheck, and BFD
[12:55] <hondje> filosof: man initscript for a sample one
[12:58] <hondje> HappyFool: I owe you a beer
[12:58] <hondje> matplotlib is going to make my days easier
[12:58] <Mahl> so when is the new nvidia driver getting on the hoary repository
[12:58] <Mahl> the installer made...the x system go down
[12:58] <hondje> when breezy comes out, I hear
[12:59] <hondje> define down
[12:59] <Mahl> tons of error messages and garble
[12:59] <Mahl> When is breezy coming out? In october?
[01:00] <hondje> post your errors
[01:00] <hondje> probably in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:01] <hondje> grep EE might help
[01:05] <paco> hello every body
[01:06] <paco> i m a new ubuntu user
[01:06] <paco> i dont know how to edit fstab for my windows partition
[01:06] <paco> only the root can read it
[01:07] <hondje> paco: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[01:07] <LadyRoot> sudo pico /etc/fstab
[01:07] <LadyRoot> ;)
[01:07] <liable> paco: sudo gedit fstab
[01:07] <d3bian> dosudo emacs /etc/fstab
[01:07] <paco> i try    defaults,unmask=222     but it doesnt work
[01:07] <d3bian> *sudo
[01:07] <d3bian> u have to edit the fstab
[01:07] <hondje> gksu -S vim /etc/fstab
[01:07] <hondje> :)
[01:07] <d3bian> hy paco u can try this
[01:07] <d3bian> read the ubuntu hoary guide
[01:08] <d3bian> always remember this rule RTFM!!!
[01:08] <d3bian> lol
[01:08] <paco> iti can read fstab , but i cant read the windows partition
[01:09] <paco> the fucking manual is not as bright as a human
[01:09] <hondje> paco: man mount says you can use umount
[01:09] <iluciv> is it possible to update the kernel for ubuntu 5.04 from 2.6.10-5-386
[01:09] <iluciv>  to 2.6.11.11
[01:09] <paco> i try to use  TFM
[01:09] <d3bian> the ubuntu guide is the most barney style written manual u will ever read for any *nix flavor
[01:10] <paco> i havenot found what i need
[01:10] <d3bian> it tells u stetp by step and it even gives u an option on that the actual file should look like , assuming that windows is intall in hda1
[01:10] <paco> the web's manual
[01:10] <hondje> paco: man mount says you can use umount  <--- that's hondje-talk for umask
[01:11] <d3bian> if in doubt make a backup copy od ur fstab file
[01:11] <hondje> umask=022 is nice and permissive
[01:11] <d3bian> and then copy and paste the ubuntu guide one to ur hard drive
[01:11] <hondje> then erase half the guide
[01:11] <paco> the manual is in english?
[01:12] <d3bian> they have various labguages paco
[01:12] <Razor-X> how goes it in here, you people who either don't sleep, or live in non-Western-Hemisphere regions?
[01:12] <d3bian> what do u speak spanish?
[01:13] <Razor-X> hondje: thought so ;)
[01:13] <Razor-X> ahhh, this is a great sleepover
[01:13] <Razor-X> 3 fans running
[01:13] <Razor-X> door closed, a desktop and two laptops humming
[01:13] <Ubuntian> NFS mounting is not supported in Ubuntu?
[01:13] <hondje> Ubuntian: yes, it is
[01:13] <d3bian> yes it is Ubuntian
[01:13] <Razor-X> and movies/network usage all night long ;)
[01:13] <d3bian> ubuntu supports it
[01:13] <Razor-X> third diet coke this night, for me
[01:13] <iluciv> hondje: is it possible to update the kernel for ubuntu 5.04 from 2.6.10-5-386 to 2.6.11.11
[01:14] <hondje> I wouldn't use a distro w/out nfs
[01:14] <d3bian> just like i told paco ubuntian, RTFM!!
[01:14] <d3bian> its all in there
[01:14] <hondje> iluciv: yes, but I dunno if it's apt-able
[01:14] <Razor-X> d3bian: this isn't the place NTFM
[01:14] <Razor-X> *RTFM
[01:14] <paco> to take the modification made in fstab?
[01:14] <Ubuntian> hondje, d3bian when i type insmod nfs i don't see any nfs lines...
[01:14] <Razor-X> anyways, Sin City's after Episode IV, so, see yah
[01:14] <Razor-X> *for RTFM
[01:14] <d3bian> ubuntian it has to be listed in ur fstab or mtab file
[01:14] <paco> mount -a is that
[01:15] <Ubuntian> d3bian, if u don't have the patience to answer a question you shouldn't be here
[01:15] <iluciv> hondje: whats the most current apt-able kernel??
[01:15] <xxenon> firefox crashing as soon as there is flash on a webpage...known problem ?
[01:16] <NotThomMay> Ubuntian: agreed
[01:16] <pavan> hey ..Good Morning Guys..I just loaded Ubuntu and having issue in running RealPlayer..Any known issues?..Thank you
[01:16] <hondje> Ubuntian: cat /usr/src/linux-headers-`uname -r`/.config | grep NFS
[01:16] <Ubuntian> besides i've been reading the NFS howto for hours now
[01:16] <NotThomMay> xxenon: yeah, I've heard reports of firefox being unstable with flash, not sure if theres a solution
[01:16] <xxenon> great ...
[01:17] <NotThomMay> pavan: whats the issue?
[01:18] <hondje> iluciv: looks to be 2.6.11-1
[01:18] <hondje> iluciv: but why do you need it?
[01:18] <pavan> when i run realplayer it gives the following error
[01:18] <pavan>  cat /usr/src/linux-headers-`uname -r`/.config | grep NFS
[01:18] <pavan> (realplay.bin:1818): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib
[01:18] <hondje> pavan: nice error ;-)
[01:18] <iluciv> v4l patch
[01:19] <hondje> ah
[01:19] <Ubuntian> hondje, that line is to allow nfs mount?
[01:19] <iluciv> hondje: v4l patch sorry
[01:19] <pavan> sry...copy/paste error..
[01:19] <hondje> Ubuntian: sorry, thought if you were using nfs you'd know what that was :) It means NFS is around
[01:20] <EgilOfBorg> hello, how do I get Ubuntu to auto mount a usbdisk as writable?
[01:20] <hondje> iluciv: then do it up ;-)
[01:20] <Ubuntian> hondje, just trying to share folders, don't know much about nfs
[01:21] <konrad> problem with nvidia drivers is probably with usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a file
[01:21] <iluciv> hondje: downloading now would the 2.6.11-1-k7 be used also for sempron you think && do I also have to recompile kern after download?? or make all modules_install install (sorry noobie)
[01:21] <pavan> hondje:Any soln for my realplayer prob?...(Without music ..my mind will not work..:-)
[01:21] <Choubaka> why do you need realplayer to play music? :|
[01:21] <hondje> Ubuntian: well, cd /lib/modules, and then run 'ls -R | grep nfs' ... you should see nfs.ko, nfsd.ko in there
[01:21] <hondje> pavan: I don't know realplayer
[01:22] <Ubuntian> ok thanks
[01:22] <Choubaka> realplayer is non-free
[01:22] <Choubaka> anyway
[01:22] <Choubaka> pavan: sounds like your locale is fscked
[01:22] <hondje> pavan: there's a dpkg locale configure thing though
[01:22] <Choubaka> do "locale"
[01:23] <Choubaka> and tell me what the LANG= says
[01:23] <pavan> oh ok..here it goes
[01:23] <pavan> LANG=en_SG.UTF-8
[01:23] <hondje> en_SG?
[01:24] <pavan> don;t know..I am in singapore ..:-)
[01:24] <hondje> ah, okay
[01:29] <pavan> ok, bye..let me check this out...Will come back with a sln..
[01:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> what  do i need to add to fstab to get a folder to bind?
[01:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> ie the boot time equivilant of mount --bind foo foo
[01:31] <Choubaka> Hmm.
[01:32] <Choubaka> Are there any non-sucky laptops that Ubuntu supports?
[01:32] <goldfish> oh yes
[01:32] <Pithlit> Choubaka: ubunti is linux
[01:32] <goldfish> the dell i8600 is non sucky !
[01:32] <Pithlit> *ubuntu
[01:32] <Choubaka> Pithlit: yes.
[01:33] <Pithlit> therefore it supports anything that any other distro supports
[01:33] <Choubaka> That's not true.
[01:33] <Pithlit> i.e. close to everything
[01:33] <aapelii> Kamping_Kaiser: I think you need to put bind in the fourth field
[01:33] <Pithlit> like how is that not true?
[01:33] <aapelii> in /etc/fstab
[01:33] <Vurdak> hi all
[01:33] <Vurdak> i have a very big problem with apt-get
[01:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> aapelii ok. I'll try it
[01:33] <upgrdman> how do i stop x from restarting after a ctrl-alt-bksp ... temporarily...
[01:34] <upgrdman> in gentoo i could just /etc/init.d/xdm stop
[01:34] <Choubaka> I might choose a PC laptop if there's some which works perfectly as far as suspend/sound/peripherals go, has good battery life and is stable.
[01:34] <upgrdman> anyone?
[01:34] <aapelii> upgrdman: doesn't /etc/init.d/gdm stop work
[01:34] <Choubaka> Pithlit: Ubuntu may have kernel patches/userspace software/hardware detection that's more advanced than with other distros.
[01:35] <minimal> I can't get Muine to work.
[01:35] <minimal> The program runs fine but doesn't play music, it stays at 0:00
[01:35] <minimal> :(
[01:35] <upgrdman> aapelii, thx... gdm!
[01:35] <Pithlit> Choubaka: if they are more advanced that would suggest they support more things than other distros
[01:35] <Pithlit> so you're even safer :P
[01:37] <upgrdman> aapelii, no that doesnt help tho :( and /etc/init.d/xorg-common stop doesnt seem to stop it... i can up-arrow and enter time after time, and it stop the new instances... it just keeps coming up
[01:37] <Choubaka> Pithlit: exactly.
[01:37] <Choubaka> But I want to know for sure
[01:37] <GhettoFish> hello my fellow kindsmen!
[01:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> aapelii, you were right :) thanks
[01:38] <Pithlit> Choubaka: google for supported hardware in linux and get a lappy with that hardware
[01:38] <Choubaka> I am planning of getting a 12" ibook. But if there's something on the PC side which works flawlessly and has more than 2 hour battery life, then I might go with that.
[01:38] <Choubaka> Pithlit: I did google.
[01:38] <goldfish> i was gonna get a 12" pb, but the intel thing has made me think twice
[01:39] <Pithlit> my gericom works flawlessly in gentoo... I'm absolutely certain it would work flawlessly with any other distro
[01:39] <Choubaka> goldfish: Don't be scared of the intel switch.
[01:39] <Pithlit> it just boils down to how much time and effort you're willing to invest in making things work
[01:39] <goldfish> Choubaka: yeah, im not, but like, whats the oint in buying one, when they are gonna be different in 2 years...
[01:39] <goldfish> *point
[01:39] <Choubaka> Pithlit: second to none.
[01:39] <Choubaka> ehh
[01:39] <Choubaka> wrong english
[01:40] <hondje> Of course they're going to be different
[01:40] <Choubaka> "near no effort at all :("
[01:40] <goldfish> indeed
[01:40] <hondje> a thinkpad is going to be different in two years too
[01:40] <Choubaka> Apple will probably support PPC far enough into the future so you'll have to replace your laptop by the time support ends.
[01:40] <goldfish> well, i mean different hardware.
[01:40] <goldfish> Choubaka: exactly
[01:40] <hondje> yeah, but so's what a thinkpad is giong to have
[01:40] <upgrdman> is there a local.start file in ubuntu? for executing commands at bootup
[01:40] <Pithlit> Choubaka: ummm then I'd better tell you I'm having a blast with ubuntu
[01:40] <Choubaka> How's wireless configuration with Ubuntu?
[01:41] <Choubaka> I love ubuntu.
[01:41] <Choubaka> it's the best. I just don't know about laptops.
[01:41] <hondje> Choubaka: it's linux, ergo it's spotty
[01:41] <Seveas> upgrdman, you can make it yourself ot add things to bootmisc.sh
[01:41] <GhettoFish> I got a problem...
[01:41] <GhettoFish> i get this message.
[01:41] <GhettoFish> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libg/libggi/libggi2_2.0.5-1ubuntu1_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[01:41] <GhettoFish> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[01:41] <upgrdman> Choubaka, i have hell with some buggyness when wap stuff... but unecrypt. works ok
[01:41] <Pithlit> I'm wrestling it... prolly due to me being used to gentoo
[01:41] <Seveas> Choubaka, ig you don't need wpa/802.1x wirless config is good
[01:41] <GhettoFish> when i try to do apt-get install
[01:41] <Choubaka> wpa?
[01:41] <GhettoFish> and even though i do apt-get update i ge tthe same message.
[01:41] <GhettoFish> Anyone got any ideas on what it might be?
[01:41] <Pithlit> and I actually think gentoo is dead easy (while ubuntu isn't :/)
[01:42] <Pithlit> but I'm a cli monkey
[01:42] <Choubaka> unencrypted sounds scary. I don't want to send my passwords in plaintext. :/
[01:42] <Seveas> GhettoFish, ah, the US server is buggy again i guess
[01:42] <upgrdman> Seveas, which one... the one is init.d or rcS.d?
[01:42] <Seveas> GhettoFish, does it happen with all downloads?
[01:42] <Seveas> upgrdman, init.d
[01:42] <GhettoFish> no, not all. but most
[01:42] <Seveas> rc*.d contain only symlinks to files in init.d
[01:42] <Seveas> GhettoFish, use another mirror then
[01:42] <GhettoFish> where can i find mirrors?
[01:42] <Seveas> use archive.ubuntu.com instead of us.archive.ubuntu.com
[01:43] <GhettoFish> ok
[01:43] <GhettoFish> thx.
[01:43] <upgrdman> is > the append operator? or >>
[01:43] <Seveas> >>
[01:43] <Seveas> > is overwrite
[01:43] <goldfish> > will delete
[01:43] <goldfish> yeah
[01:43] <upgrdman> thx
[01:44] <upgrdman> Seveas, and do i need to put "sudo" in front of commands in bootmisc.sh?
[01:44] <Seveas> upgrdman, no
[01:44] <hondje> upgrdman: man initscripts is helpful
[01:44] <Choubaka> But if I can find a lightweight, less than 1000 EUR laptop with good battery life and Linuc support, I'll be happy.
[01:44] <Seveas> upgrdman, is it really needed to be done at bootup..?
[01:44] <raptoid> hi guyz
[01:45] <raptoid> fluxbox install ?
[01:45] <goldfish> Choubaka: a 12" powerbook is a good choice
[01:45] <raptoid> apt-get install ???? ?
[01:45] <goldfish> raptoid: apt-get install fluxbox
[01:45] <goldfish> with sudo
[01:45] <raptoid> :)
[01:45] <raptoid> thnx goldfish
[01:45] <raptoid> mucx
[01:45] <goldfish> np
[01:45] <Choubaka> goldfish: I don't have money for one.
[01:46] <Pithlit> apt-get install e17
[01:46] <upgrdman> Seveas, yes, its a workaround for some drive issues not wanting X to use widescreen res 1280x768 on my laptop... has to be executed before X... this is the easier way
[01:46] <raptoid> goldfish,
[01:46] <raptoid> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[01:46] <raptoid>   fluxbox
[01:46] <raptoid> Install these packages without verification [y/N] ?
[01:46] <raptoid> E: Some packages could not be authenticated
[01:46] <raptoid> ?
[01:47] <jeroen_> raptoid, using backports, right?
[01:47] <Pithlit> y
[01:47] <goldfish> hmmmm.
[01:47] <goldfish> Choubaka: Ah right.
[01:47] <goldfish> my laptop worked fine out of the box with linux
[01:47] <Choubaka> does it have wireless?
[01:47] <goldfish> yeah
[01:47] <Choubaka> cool
[01:47] <Choubaka> how's the battery life?
[01:47] <raptoid> e17 or fluxbox what is nice ?
[01:47] <Seveas> upgrdman, hmm, dunno if bootmisc.sh executes before X
[01:48] <hondje> e17 is alpha
[01:48] <goldfish> raptoid: both are nice, xfce is nice too.
[01:48] <goldfish> Choubaka: heh, its nearly always plugged in, havent tested it much :)
[01:48] <raptoid> e17 fluxbox xfce ?
[01:48] <goldfish> raptoid: try them out :)
[01:48] <Choubaka> goldfish: hmm.
[01:48] <upgrdman> Seveas, it appears to... because it worked when i rebooted
[01:48] <Choubaka> This is the dell you talked about?
[01:48] <Seveas> upgrdman, ok :)
[01:48] <goldfish> Choubaka: yeah, i have a dell.
[01:49] <goldfish> Choubaka: my family use it too, so its always plugged in nearly.
[01:49] <goldfish> infact, i think the battery needs replacing.
[01:49] <Pithlit> hondje: e17 in not even alpha
[01:50] <GhettoFish> eeh... shouldn't maplayer-386 work just fine to install?
[01:50] <berkes> heh, i came in here for mplayer probnlems too :)
[01:50] <_paco_> raptoid, u stink
[01:50] <Seveas> GhettoFish, mplayer-custom is the one to use
[01:50] <_paco_> u gypsy
[01:50] <Seveas> _paco_: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct
[01:50] <raptoid> _paco_, e17 ownz!
[01:50] <GhettoFish> ok, on ubuntu HOWTO they use 386..
[01:50] <raptoid> xfce suzx
[01:50] <Choubaka> Dell Latitude 100L seems to be working quite well.
[01:51] <GhettoFish> gah get same error on that one.
[01:51] <zerokills> Counter Strike: Source runs smooth on Ubuntu
[01:51] <Choubaka> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsDell <- last
[01:51] <GhettoFish> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[01:51] <GhettoFish>   mplayer-custom: Depends: libavcodec2 but it is not installable
[01:51] <GhettoFish>                   Depends: libggi2 (>= 1:2.0.4) but it is not installable
[01:51] <GhettoFish> E: Broken packages
[01:51] <Seveas> GhettoFish, do not paste in here...
[01:51] <GhettoFish> sorry.
[01:51] <Pithlit> omg
[01:51] <Seveas> GhettoFish, and do not use marillat or us.archive.ubuntu.com, the former is unusable, the latter is buggy now
[01:51] <Pithlit> why does mplayer depend on ggi?
[01:52] <GhettoFish> Seveas,  hmm, ok. Where can i find alternative servers?
[01:52] <Seveas> GhettoFish, use archive.ubuntu.com
[01:52] <othernoob> Seveas: what's wrong with marillat ?
[01:52] <hondje> No one would ever have a problem installing mplayer if they'd stop using marillat, or at least learn to pin :)
[01:52] <Seveas> othernoob, sarge is newer than hoary, so marillat can give dependency errors
[01:52] <berkes> mencoder gives me "Segmentatie fout" wich is "segmentation fault"
[01:53] <_paco_> compile mplayer from source
[01:53] <zerokills> hondje: you gotta get your Half-Life 2 workin so we can play some CS
[01:53] <_paco_> thats the best way
[01:53] <hondje> zerokills: I'm terrible at those games :)
[01:53] <berkes> _paco_: comppliing from source is never the best way :)
[01:53] <othernoob> i see
[01:53] <_paco_> lets play legends
[01:53] <zerokills> hondje: gotta play more ;)
[01:53] <hondje> hehe
[01:53] <Seveas> _paco_, not in a binary distribution
[01:53] <hondje> berkes: sure, if you use apt-get source :)
[01:53] <Pithlit> lol
[01:54] <berkes> strange sense of "best" you folks have :)
[01:54] <GhettoFish> ok this time i changed to archive.ubuntu.com but now i get one more package that can't be installed when i try to install mplayer-custom.
[01:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> mplayer is made to compile, not be packaged
[01:55] <hondje> GhettoFish: did you apt-get update, and what pkg?
[01:55] <berkes> no seriously, mplayer works fine, just mencoder fails
[01:55] <hondje> Kamping_Kaiser: then why not sudo apt-get build-deb mplayer sudo apt-get source -b mplayer ?
[01:55] <zerokills_zzzzz> be back later
[01:55] <hondje> that way it's compiled, deps are satisfied, everyone wins
[01:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> if you want
[01:56] <Choubaka> Actually, in case of mplayer, compiling from source gives the most performance.
[01:56] <berkes> hondje: E: Ongeldige operatie build-deb
[01:56] <GhettoFish> ok did apt-get update and now i only get one file that can't be installed.
[01:56] <Seveas> build-dep
[01:56] <hondje> You can't go building from source and not at least making them .debs if you want to be able to maintain your system longer than a few months
[01:56] <berkes> (dunno the translation)
[01:56] <GhettoFish> libavxodec2
[01:56] <GhettoFish> codec*
[01:56] <Pithlit> imho anyone that thinks compiling from source is best, shouldn't use a binary distro
[01:56] <hondje> berkes: build-dep with a p
[01:56] <Choubaka> Even the devs recommend compiling yourself.
[01:57] <Seveas> Choubaka, where did you read that..?
[01:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> pithlit, i dont recomend it for everything. mplayer is an exeption
[01:57] <hondje> ever watched it compile, or ffmpeg? It's painful
[01:57] <Seveas> regarding installing things on ubuntu, i'd rather trust ubuntu devs
[01:57] <berkes> "E: Kan geen bronpakket vinden voor apt-get" hondje
[01:57] <FireBox> How can I install JRE on Ubuntu 5.04?
[01:57] <hornsby> for newbies, compiling can be a bad dream !
[01:57] <Pithlit> hondje: yes... many times
[01:57] <Seveas> berkes, hondje is not dutch
[01:58] <HappyFool> despite the name? ;)
[01:58] <Seveas> berkes, and enable multiverse for mplayer
[01:58] <berkes> ah, his name is dutch :)
[01:58] <hondje> Yes, in spite of the name :)
[01:58] <hondje> het gekker snoodaard hondje
[01:58] <berkes> sorry, for that
[01:58] <raptoid> FireBox, sh jre-1_5_0_02-linux-i586.bin
[01:58] <hondje> np, happens all the time :)
[01:58] <raptoid> sudo mkdir /usr/java
[01:58] <Choubaka> Seveas: It reads somewhere on the official page.
[01:59] <raptoid> sudo mv jre1.5.0_02/ /usr/java/
[01:59] <raptoid> sudo chown -R root:root /usr/java/jre1.5.0_02/
[01:59] <Seveas> raptoid, NO
[01:59] <raptoid> sudo ln -s /usr/java/jre1.5.0_02/bin/java /usr/bin/java
[01:59] <raptoid> sudo ln -s /usr/java/jre1.5.0_02/bin/java_vm /usr/bin/java_vm
[01:59] <Seveas> raptoid, that's not good
[01:59] <raptoid> sudo ln -s /usr/java/jre1.5.0_02/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[01:59] <FireBox> raptoid: Perhaps you should privmsg it to me?
[01:59] <Seveas> raptoid,firebox: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 
[01:59] <raptoid> ok sorry.
[01:59] <Seveas> do NOT foolw the ubuntuguide instructions
[01:59] <FireBox> make-jpkg or make-kpkg?
[01:59] <Seveas> jpkg
[02:00] <Choubaka> Seveas: I think the chmod +x part is redundant.
[02:00] <Seveas> kpkg is for kernel stuff
[02:00] <raptoid> sone technique some geyique
[02:00] <FireBox> OK, thanks.
[02:00] <raptoid> eaohdhoae
[02:00] <Seveas> Choubaka, hmm, afaik make-jpkg executes the bin file...
[02:00] <Choubaka> but it does it with sh I believe.
[02:00] <Seveas> ah :)
[02:00] <hondje> damn commercial software
[02:01] <HappyFool> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java has several ways of installing Java, though that may be the JDK, not the JRE
[02:01] <Choubaka> I wish they completed GNU classpath :P
[02:01] <Choubaka> and the extras.
[02:01] <berkes> i have multiverse, Seveas, but still no luck :)
[02:02] <nxv__> some things need installed and _configured_ kernelsources installed, how do i get those with ubuntu? when i apt-get install linux-source-2.6.10 are those configured?
[02:03] <Seveas> nxv__, usually linux-headers-$(uname -r) is enough
[02:03] <Seveas> and yes, both headers and source are configured
[02:04] <nxv__> thx Seveas
[02:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> if cedega produces unhandeled exeptions, would that be breezy or cedega?
[02:04] <Seveas> Kamping_Kaiser, can be both...
[02:04] <Seveas> breezy is unstable
[02:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh i know
[02:04] <Seveas> cedega is crap ;)
[02:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> i was wondering who i should abuse :P
[02:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> so it seems
[02:04] <hondje> abuse breezy
[02:05] <hondje> they'll actually look at your bug report
[02:05] <Seveas> lol
[02:05] <Seveas> but true
[02:05] <berkes> is there actually an easy way of determining "unused" packages?
[02:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol. ok
[02:05] <Seveas> berkes, describe "unused"
[02:05] <hondje> berkes: deborphan / debfoster
[02:05] <berkes> like *uch* windows, shows you how often they are used
[02:05] <hondje> be careful with tem, though
[02:06] <Seveas> berkes, yegh, that is uter crap
[02:06] <berkes> in the software installation screens and so
[02:06] <Seveas> berkes, because it's always wrong
[02:06] <berkes> Seveas: I know, but it is handy :)
[02:06] <Seveas> berkes, how can wrong information be handy???
[02:06] <hondje> synaptic shows the results from popularity contest?
[02:06] <berkes> Imean, if there was a working version of somethin like that, commandline, for *nix, that would be great
[02:07] <FireBox> Seveas: Thanks a heap, I now have working Java! :D
[02:07] <Seveas> berkes, well, there is none :)
[02:07] <ubuntu> k
[02:07] <ubuntu> hello
[02:07] <ubuntu> dedalos identify
[02:07] <Raskall> how should I interpret the hinfo for my mx? am I listed as a spammer? http://rolfas.net/hinfo.txt
[02:07] <hondje> my voice is my passport
[02:08] <FireBox> Uplink...
[02:08] <hondje> Raskall: That's what I'd take it as
[02:08] <Seveas> Raskall, the ip adress is listed as a spammer
[02:09] <berkes> also, i went for mencoder (possibly with acidrip as FE) because it seems impossible to install transcode in ubuntu.
[02:09] <hondje> got an open relay, Raskall ?
[02:09] <berkes> lots of forum posts about that, but no real solutions, it seems.
[02:09] <hondje> berkes: Not impossible, sir!
[02:09] <Pithlit> lol
[02:09] <hondje> and in a few days I'll have deps shifted down and can post it
[02:09] <berkes> hondje: *seems* impossible
[02:09] <hondje> still needs two marillat repos for my pkg
[02:09] <hondje> :-/
[02:10] <hondje> for libdivxencore0 / decore0
[02:10] <hondje> s/repos/deps
[02:10] <Raskall> Seveas: yes. but when I try norways biggest isp's mailserver, I get the same results
[02:10] <berkes> hondje: yup
[02:10] <hondje> just gotta sit down and figure out what can replace them
[02:11] <hondje> it's in transcode's INSTALL, so I shouldn't have too much hastle
[02:11] <berkes> watching make-logs is fun. its kinda hypnotic
[02:12] <hondje> the other problem is making it run stable w/ hoary ffmpeg
[02:12] <hondje> oh well, I'll get it done soon, and I shall be hailed as a hero
[02:12] <Seveas> :)
[02:12] <hondje> now if I can just figure out how dvd::rip works...
[02:13] <Seveas> use the source, luke :)
[02:13] <hondje> too hard for me, I want 'click here to rip dvd to disk!'
[02:13] <hondje> Seveas: that's cheating, I'm using the deb-src ;-)
[02:13] <hornsby> berkes, have you tried :http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=548&page=3
[02:13] <hondje> I just want to rip dvds for my daughter, and make dvds from dv
[02:14] <signius> Raskall i cant find any MX records for the IP address to do a full DNS report
[02:14] <berkes> hondje: jes,
[02:15] <Raskall> signius: the dns name for the mx is bigmama.ronningveien.net
[02:15] <lsuactiafner> how do i check the new version number of a program on apt-get before i download it?
[02:15] <signius> ok ill check that
[02:15] <hondje> berkes: ?
[02:15] <lsuactiafner> oh -s
[02:15] <berkes> but installing stuff from marillat completely broke my system :)
[02:15] <lsuactiafner> maybe not?
[02:15] <lsuactiafner> how?
[02:15] <berkes> hondje: that shouldve been yes
[02:15] <hondje> ah :)
[02:15] <needs_help> Hello
[02:16] <hondje> marillat is good, if you use pinning
[02:16] <signius> no its closed to ralays
[02:16] <berkes> pinning?
[02:16] <raptoid> kurdish language pack for ubuntu ?
[02:16] <signius> http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=ronningveien.net
[02:16] <hondje> berkes: /etc/apt/preferences
[02:16] <raptoid> kurdish language pack for ubuntu ?
[02:17] <hondje> http://www.argon.org/~roderick/apt-pinning.html
[02:17] <marin> eh, I need some help. I can't view movies
[02:17] <berkes> hondje: reading that already :)
[02:17] <Raskall> signius: thanx.
[02:17] <hornsby> berkes, try that, worked for me : sudo apt-get -t testing install transcode &&  sudo apt-get install dvdrip
[02:17] <hondje> :)
[02:17] <signius> your welcome
[02:17] <berkes> guess thats what i forgot last time :)
[02:17] <signius> i hope that is of some use
[02:18] <hondje> berkes: pin all that ubuntu has a version of to ubuntu, and then onlly the additional pkgs come from marillat
[02:18] <berkes> well, i first try if my home-brewn mencoder works, for then i can use acidrip, which is nicr hen dvd::rip IMO
[02:18] <aapelii> could anybody tell me how to setup my default session so that programs are opened to a certain workspace and with right window size and placement?
[02:18] <needs_help> Hello
[02:18] <needs_help> dear bros
[02:18] <hondje> aapelii: save session does it for me
[02:18] <lsuactiafner> heh whats suppose to be in sources for transcode? since i got deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat unstable main? testing also?
[02:19] <needs_help>  i need help about installation
[02:19] <needs_help> plz somebody help me
[02:19] <Raskall> signius: seems I need to forward that report to my domain pusher.
[02:19] <hondje> lsuactiafner: it's the same, control files are different
[02:19] <berkes> we can see that you need help, needs_help :)
[02:19] <lsuactiafner> needs_help : just ask man
[02:19] <aapelii> hondje: also for programs not supporting it?
[02:19] <hondje> aapelii: I'll get around that, man
[02:19] <signius> you might also want to setup a SPF record
[02:20] <Raskall> signius: I am not in control of the dns servers.
[02:20] <Pithlit> hmmm headless install is kinda weird -_-
[02:20] <hondje> aapelii: just got the libdivxencore0/decore0 ones
[02:20] <hornsby> berkes,  deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat stable main && deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat unstable main &&deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat testing main
[02:20] <signius> i see
[02:20] <pippijn> /usr/sbin/ircd: error: unable to find "/usr/sbin/iauth".
[02:20] <pippijn> where do I get iauth?
[02:20] <marin> Can somebody help me? I can't play avi and mpg movies
[02:20] <hornsby> lsuactiafner, you have testing too
[02:21] <aapelii> hondje: cool, I can test it when you have it done...
[02:21] <berkes> marin: what do you use for playing?
[02:21] <lsuactiafner> nope
[02:21] <hondje> aapelii: I'd appreciate that :)
[02:21] <hornsby> add it
[02:21] <hornsby> testing main
[02:21] <lsuactiafner> adding it now
[02:21] <aapelii> hondje: Have you tried installing chroot ubuntu to test your packages, it might help you
[02:22] <needs_help> k
[02:22] <lsuactiafner> needs_help : this is a help channel. ask in here.
[02:22] <hornsby> lsuactiafner, then try $sudo apt-get -t testing install transcode
[02:22] <marin> I use Totem
[02:22] <hondje> aapelii: no, I'll look into that
[02:22] <hondje> time to finish work :)
[02:22] <berkes> marin: i do not know totem, but are you sure you have the correct codecs installed?
[02:22] <mhz> hi you all
[02:23] <aapelii> well, I have to go to work... bye all
[02:23] <Pithlit> aapelii: have fun
[02:23] <hornsby> marin, sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins && sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[02:23] <lsuactiafner> still not actually..
[02:23] <lsuactiafner> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat testing main
[02:23] <lsuactiafner> adding stable also
[02:24] <mhz> anyone knows why I can ssh to my ubuntu box ONLY from internal IP's???
[02:24] <Seveas> lsuactiafner, nerim can cause dependency issues...\
[02:24] <hornsby> lsuactiafner, have you done $sudo apt-get update ?
[02:24] <hondje> You guys are nuts  :)
[02:24] <Seveas> mhz, you didn't forward the ssh port to your box?
[02:24] <marin> Yes, I have already installed these codecs
[02:24] <lsuactiafner> mhz :because sshd listens on eth0 and not any other devices?
[02:24] <Pithlit> hondje: yes yes we are :P
[02:24] <hondje> Oh well, you probably don't mind reinstalls either :)
[02:24] <hornsby> marin, sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[02:25] <hondje> A toast, to our noble beta testers
[02:25] <lsuactiafner> or becuase the firewall doenst allow it
[02:25] <hornsby> marin, for dvd's
[02:25] <needs_help> I have intel 1100 mhz , 128 mb ram ,asus cd rom , 4 partitions: primary formatted , extended having data, i m having probe after the installation starts |||Some deboot strap error plz help me
[02:25] <hondje> keeping hondje data-loss free since 2000
[02:25] <mhz> lsuactiafner: that sounds logical where should I look so I make it listen to ethX ?
[02:25] <lsuactiafner> grep -i ssh /var/adm/syslog
[02:25] <marin> which program do u use?
[02:25] <hornsby> mplayer, vlc
[02:25] <hornsby> xine is good too
[02:26] <Seveas> needs_help, you should give the exact error, otherwise no one can help you... and also: with 128 mb you need a BIG swap partition or you're screwed
[02:26] <lsuactiafner> mhz : just check your /var/log/syslog and /var/log/messages
[02:26] <mhz> okidoki
[02:26] <needs_help> I have intel 1100 mhz , 128 mb ram ,asus cd rom , 4 partitions: primary formatted , extended having data, i m having probe after the installation starts |||Some deboot strap error plz help me
[02:26] <Seveas> needs_help, stop repeating and read what people say...
[02:26] <tahorg> any quick and dirty fix for the "Nautilus IS DOG SLOW" in breezy ?
[02:26] <marin> ok, i'll try installing mplayer
[02:26] <needs_help> there is no reply to my probe
[02:26] <lsuactiafner> mhz : first look in logs for another explanation.. ssh gets loged.. else look @ /etc/ssh/sshd_config but make a backup of the file before you make changes
[02:26] <hornsby> try taht first $sudo apt-get vlc
[02:27] <hornsby> apt-get install vlc
[02:27] <Seveas> needs_help, probe..?
[02:27] <hornsby> sorry
[02:27] <lsuactiafner> needs_help : state your question in this channel in a concise manner.
[02:27] <berkes> allright, finished compiling, but /me is noob in deb-source stuff, how tp proceed?
[02:27] <lsuactiafner> oh you did
[02:27] <lsuactiafner> hmmm
[02:27] <berkes> ive got a load .deb s now
[02:28] <lsuactiafner> during the instal did lilo or grub install properly?
[02:28] <lsuactiafner> screw apt-get
[02:28] <lsuactiafner> Sat Jun 11 14:24:06 (tty4)
[02:28] <lsuactiafner> root@infant-finite ~/transcode-1.0.0beta3
[02:28] <lsuactiafner> 4926 nice -n -20 ./configure
[02:29] <hondje> I don't get it
[02:29] <mhz> lsuactiafner:  thx
[02:29] <hondje> the point of debian and debian-based distros IS apt-get, at least to me
[02:29] <tahorg> so, nobody's got nautilus really slow in breezy ?
[02:29] <hondje> install once, last forever
[02:29] <mhz> lsuactiafner:  no ssh match in syslog nor in messages
[02:29] <lsuactiafner> hondje : its less effort to get the source working than to figure out why apt dont have transcode for me
[02:30] <lsuactiafner> hmmm
[02:30] <hornsby> tahorg, breezy is in dev. not recommended to use
[02:30] <hondje> Well, there is logic to less-work
[02:30] <lsuactiafner> iptables -L -n | grep 22
[02:30] <lsuactiafner> and
[02:30] <lsuactiafner> iptables -L -n | grep DROP
[02:30] <scanwinder> hey, does anyone know why when i try 2 chat using IRC in opera, it goes "fetching room list...." and then says "0 rooms"......it wont find rooms anymore.........it used to......and it does it on other comps aswell.......and in the windows version it also does it
[02:31] <scanwinder> is it just a bug?
[02:31] <hornsby> scanwinder, try xchat :)
[02:31] <scanwinder> thats what im using right now
[02:31] <scanwinder> but i would like the opera one 2 work
[02:32] <lsuactiafner> scanwinder : becuase you did a /list on a server with 1000000 rooms
[02:32] <othernoob> which program do i need to extract files from an .ace archive ? unace doesn't want to extract them
[02:32] <lsuactiafner> thats insane
[02:32] <lsuactiafner> scanwinder : try make opera not fetch a list
[02:32] <scanwinder> and put it in manually?
[02:32] <hornsby> that makes sense :)
[02:33] <mhz> lsuactiafner: none of the above mentioned iptable comands gave any result
[02:33] <berkes> hondje: sorry to ping yuo again, i compiled teh sources, can i now simply install the deb files with my package mgr?
[02:33] <lsuactiafner> needs_help : did the bootloaders lilo or grub install?
[02:33] <hondje> berkes: dpkg -i file :)
[02:33] <hondje> er, sudo dpkg -i file
[02:33] <james__> othernoob, could you let me know if you find out...
[02:33] <othernoob> james__ sure
[02:33] <lsuactiafner> mhz : then its not the firewall, i believe the default sshd listens on all devices, therefore your network is blocking access to port 22 of the server
[02:34] <mhz> :(
[02:34] <hondje> mhz: do you use firestarter?
[02:34] <mhz> nop, AFAIK :)
[02:34] <lsuactiafner> i will trun traceroute host to determine if there are any interuptions in the link
[02:35] <lsuactiafner> also you might be using ipv6 or ipv4
[02:35] <mhz> ipv4
[02:35] <lsuactiafner> and the external netowrk might be a differant protocall..
[02:35] <lsuactiafner> but thats a guess
[02:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> woot. found what was wrong with cedega
[02:36] <berkes> curse this. all this compiling and stuff, only to get the same result: segmentation fault.
[02:36] <mhz> lsuactiafner, I assume giving ALL:ALL in sshd_config will be too stupid?
[02:36] <lsuactiafner> Kamping_Kaiser : ive known for a long time whats wrong with it.. it runs windows programs..
[02:36] <mhz> lsuactiafner, or I should consider it reliable
[02:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[02:36] <lsuactiafner> mhz : well.. sorta
[02:36] <Pithlit> lsuactiafner: lol
[02:36] <lsuactiafner> i'm not paranoid
[02:37] <lsuactiafner> well if anyone is going to hackor you sshd they will try hack @ first
[02:37] <hondje> lot of dictionary attacks, really lame
[02:37] <lsuactiafner> i would use iptables to limit connections to specifc hosts
[02:37] <hondje> as long as you don't have a stupid passwd, those do nothing...sshd is pretty damn solid
[02:37] <lsuactiafner> and try port knocking if you can
[02:37] <mhz> lsuactiafner, me neither BUT this won't be my box, and these people is the first time they'll use Linux, so... the less problematic the better :)
[02:37] <oase> hai
[02:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> have other ppl been getting ssh scans with dictionary atacks?
[02:38] <michael__> hello everyone! does anyone know how to take a screenshot of firefox that shows the whole webpage? So, not just what you can see, but also the things that you need to scroll down for....
[02:38] <hondje> Kamping_Kaiser: for over a year now
[02:38] <lsuactiafner> yeh even on my dynamic dailup i had a dictionary attack when i ran without tables once
[02:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> hondje, ok, i know it was about 5 months min, but wondered
[02:38] <lsuactiafner> just use iptables to protect yourself
[02:38] <hondje> I even saw one of the scripts they were using, it's a joke
[02:38] <lsuactiafner> and dont allow more than 2 wrong logins
[02:38] <lsuactiafner> @ most 5
[02:38] <oase> hello everybody
[02:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> theres only me, so i dont allow bad logins
[02:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi
[02:39] <Pithlit> and change the friggin default port to something else
[02:39] <hornsby> hi
[02:39] <oase> kamping kaiser??
[02:39] <mhz> hondje: I agree. My iptable knowledge still sucks
[02:39] <hondje> using keys is great, with sshd
[02:39] <hondje> mhz: give firestarter a shot, pretty good app....simple for newbies, powerful for when you grok it
[02:39] <oase> any gurl in here...???
[02:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[02:39] <Seveas> hondje, combined with ssh-add it's even better :)
[02:39] <dreco> hi there.  is atyfb build into initrd (hoary)?!
[02:39] <mhz> hondje: I am reading about it now :)
[02:39] <lsuactiafner> iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -j DROP
[02:39] <Pithlit> oase: girls in a geek help channel? you're kidding right?
[02:40] <hondje> Seveas: I must ask the wise man about it
[02:40] <oase> huehueheuhe
[02:40] <oase> aloha pith
[02:40] <mhz> lsuactiafner, iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -j DROP .... what will do?
[02:40] <oase> u in where pith??
[02:41] <Pithlit> what? where? how?
[02:41] <Seveas> mhz, that'll block ssh...
[02:41] <lsuactiafner> drop everything
[02:41] <jan_> hi all, I've just installed ubuntu 5.04 in my machine, just booted. But it seems it has left my /etc/fstab unconfigured -- some kind of bug. Could somebody paste me a copy of the default /etc/fstab file for ubuntu ? I edit it accordingly later, to adapt to my partitions ... Thanks for any help! :)
[02:41] <lsuactiafner> and make sshd unusable
[02:41] <lsuactiafner> heh
[02:42] <lsuactiafner> /dev/hda2        /                ext3        defaults         1   1
[02:42] <lsuactiafner> /dev/hda1        swap             swap        defaults         0   0
[02:42] <lsuactiafner> devpts           /dev/pts         devpts      gid=5,mode=620   0   0
[02:42] <lsuactiafner> proc             /proc            proc        defaults         0   0
[02:42] <Seveas> jan_, http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/65
[02:42] <Seveas> lsuactiafner, fool
[02:42] <jan_> thanks lsuactiafner!
[02:42] <Seveas> you know you shouldn;t paste in here
[02:42] <lsuactiafner> hehehe
[02:42] <hondje> jan_: there's no default fstab
[02:42] <lsuactiafner> eh yeh
[02:42] <lsuactiafner> i didnt.. i catted (;
[02:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> hondje yes there is, its what jan_ has ;)
[02:42] <mhz> Seveas, ah, ok. but no good if I need ssh so much :)
[02:42] <hornsby> :)
[02:43] <jan_> hondje, I mean, the swap options, devpts, sys and the like ...
[02:43] <hondje> jan_: one mans layout is totally different than yours...for example, I have /var and /tmp and /home on seperate partitions
[02:43] <bvbvvvbvbv> tolooonggg !!!!
[02:43] <bvbvvvbvbv> sapa yg dari indonesia nih , minta tolong
[02:43] <Seveas> bvbvvvbvbv, we speak english in here
[02:44] <Pithlit> mhz: changing the default port and allowing access from only certain IP's (usefull if you use static) and only certain users (no root!) will help a lot
[02:44] <bvbvvvbvbv> i can't speak english :(
[02:44] <eleusis> heh
[02:44] <Seveas> bvbvvvbvbv, then find a channel in your language..
[02:44] <eleusis> but it seems you can read and write it :P
[02:45] <othernoob> Seveas: do you know a program to extract ace files, unace doesnt want to extract
[02:45] <mhz> ohhhh, I almost forgot... I googled for about 45 minutes about this annoying feature. in an iBook, the only resolution i can end up using is 600 x 400 something. Even after specifing 1024x768 or even 800 x ... Any ideas?
[02:45] <Seveas> othernoob, sorry, no
[02:45] <hondje> if we care about security today, mount /dev/shm noexec,rw
[02:45] <othernoob> no prob, thx though
[02:45] <Seveas> did you restart the X server after changing xorg.conf?
[02:45] <mhz> Pithlit, yes. root never gets logged in
[02:46] <hondje> It's doesn't hurt a thing, and /dev/shm exploits are on the rise
[02:46] <mhz> Pithlit, yes. but unfortunately, I need to ssh to it any time, from any ip :(
[02:46] <Pithlit> wtf?!? Fatal: raid_setup: stat("/dev/hda1") after running lilo
[02:46] <mhz> Seveas, yep
[02:47] <berkes> hondje: i got from your comment that youare currently working on the transcode packge?
[02:47] <mhz> hondje, well said
[02:47] <hondje> berkes: Oh yeah, I have it built, it just needs two marillat deps still
[02:48] <hondje> should be done by the end of next week, I figure, since I don't exactly devote a ton of time to it
[02:48] <berkes> because my installation fails with 6 unmet dependencies
[02:48] <hondje> paste me the 6 in /query
[02:49] <berkes> /query?
[02:49] <jaysin> hey all!
[02:49] <hondje> berkes: /query opens up a tab to me
[02:49] <jaysin> are there any wine experts in the house?
[02:49] <raptoid> what is install tar.gz for ubuntu ?
[02:49] <Pithlit> ok I seem to be having some issues... I'm assuming vmliuz-2.6.10* is the kernel image, right?
[02:49] <raptoid> help me help me
[02:49] <raptoid> what install tar.gz for ubuntu ?
[02:50] <Seveas> raptoid, what do you mean??
[02:50] <raptoid> install tar.gz ?
[02:50] <raptoid> ubuntu
[02:50] <_konrad> thanks god, Google know everything (but have to know its way of thinking : )
[02:50] <jaysin> maybe he means how can he install?
[02:51] <_konrad> roblem with nvidia solved: sudo ln -sf /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so.1.0.7174 /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a
[02:51] <_konrad> why nvidia-glx don't do this?
[02:51] <Seveas> raptoid, tar zxvf file.tar.gz
[02:51] <Seveas> then cd into the folder it created
[02:51] <raptoid> binary ?
[02:51] <Seveas> and run ./configure && make && sudo checkinstall
[02:52] <raptoid> Seveas, thanks
[02:52] <berkes> odd, there is no transcoe, in my ubuntu sources
[02:52] <_konrad> and I have another question about dpkg/atp - how to reinstall package to make it thinks, that it is firtst installation?
[02:52] <jaysin> how can i get the sims 2 to work with wine?
[02:52] <hondje> berkes: not in binaries, only in apt-get source
[02:52] <berkes> ah
[02:52] <Seveas> _konrad, aptitude purge $package && aptitude install $package
[02:53] <_konrad> Seveas: what if package is essential? can be removed?
[02:53] <hondje> berkes: the problem is that it has deps that aren't in ubuntu repositories
[02:53] <_konrad> like xorg-xserver
[02:53] <Seveas> _konrad, maybe aptitude reinstall will do the same then...
[02:53] <Pithlit> anyone cna help me solve this: Fatal: raid_setup: stat("/dev/hda") ?
[02:53] <berkes> hondje: its not found at all
[02:53] <_konrad> Seveas: unfortunatelly, it don't :(
[02:53] <Seveas> _konrad, why do you want to let it think it's the first install?
[02:53] <mhz> hondje, hmmm, will firestarter run default when rebooting in init:3  ?
[02:53] <hondje> berkes: apt-get source transcode doesn't work?
[02:53] <Seveas> messed up configuration?
[02:54] <hondje> mhz: I don't know, it daemonized itself during configuration I think
[02:54] <_konrad> Seveas: i removed one file (no matter what) and after reinstallig (dpkg -i, aptitude etc) file was still removed!
[02:54] <berkes> nope, not found
[02:54] <fabian> hello everybody
[02:54] <mhz> hondje, so you are not currently using it?
[02:54] <hondje> berkes: do you have multiverse?
[02:54] <hondje> I am
[02:54] <Seveas> _konrad, which file? I can send it to you if you want...
[02:54] <_konrad> Seveas: to install all files as "fresh" ones - turn off "is it upgrade" detection
[02:55] <fabian> I'm not sure, if this is the right place, but I need some help with my ubuntu system
[02:55] <_konrad> Seveas: I used "mc" to brose deb :)
[02:55] <mhz> hondje, ah, but you did not start it manually after rebooting and loged in in GUI, right?
[02:55] <berkes> hondje: yes
[02:55] <hondje> mhz: No, but I boot into runlevel 2
[02:55] <hondje> berkes: odd, let me check
[02:55] <mhz> fabian, it's a place
[02:55] <_konrad> Seveas: I think it is missing feature or after 3 yeras with Debian I haven't noticed it :D
[02:56] <Pithlit> noone?
[02:56] <Pithlit> *sigh*
[02:56] <MistaED> hey quick question, i just need help exporting libs for maya, the bin can't find them....
[02:56] <Seveas> _konrad, well, reinstall should recreate the missing file iirc
[02:56] <_konrad> Seveas: everytime I'm here (even on "weird" times) you are here - are you working for ububtu?
[02:56] <fabian> mhz: well, first: I'm really new to linux, so don't expect any help from myself! :D
[02:57] <mhz> fabbione, np
[02:57] <Seveas> _kevin, no, i'm just a community member
[02:57] <MistaED> what could be a command combo? like export_lib=/usr/aw/maya/lib or something?
[02:57] <mhz> fabian, np
[02:57] <_konrad> Seveas: it should. but I have another experience (I was mostly using aptitude and "L" command)
[02:57] <mhz> fabian, these instances are open because you're welcome
[02:57] <Seveas> _konrad, which file are you missing? I can send it to you if you want...
[02:57] <mhz> fabian, as long you respect the participants opinions
[02:58] <_konrad> Seveas: great work you do! thanks
[02:58] <Pithlit> df -h
[02:58] <Pithlit> blah
[02:58] <fabian> mhz: I installed my system yesterday at a Linux-Day at my university. So they helped me with everything.
[02:58] <mhz> fabian, cool!
[02:58] <fabian> mhz: i got two problems now
[02:58] <mhz> :(
[02:58] <fabian> mhz: 1. the easier one! ;)
[02:58] <_konrad> Seveas:I managed with this with package.debian.org file search (package .ubuntu.com file search don't work correctly), downloaded deb and unpaked it with "mc" - thanks for your help
[02:59] <hondje> _konrad: what is mc?
[02:59] <fabian> mhz: wlan card: It worked properly yesterday. All the drivers are installed. BUT: They somehow forgot, to let it activate everytime i restart my system. how can i do that?
[03:00] <Seveas> hondje, midnight commander, a great curses-based filemanager
[03:00] <_konrad> hondje: don;t you know? Midnight Commander - unfortunatetly don't supprort UTF, so I need to use ISO
[03:00] <_konrad> hondje: something like Norton Commander for DOS
[03:00] <hondje> oh
[03:00] <hondje> I know that mc, I thought it was something instead of using ar -x
[03:00] <mhz> fabian, I never used wlan or similar, but i assume they are set as any other interface in /etc/network/interfaces
[03:01] <james__> Does anyone have any problems with GNOME Baker. It keeps on failing mid-burn? WHat other apps can Iget to burn audio CD's?
[03:01] <_konrad> hondje: :D I don't like command-line "compressors"
[03:01] <hondje> not even tar?
[03:01] <Seveas> james__, graveman?
[03:01] <Seveas> or k3b (kde prog)
[03:01] <_konrad> hondje: tar is OK, but only for simple things
[03:02] <mhz> fabian, so, in a command terminal (hmmmm, there must be another GUI to do this in you rboc, probably), type:   sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[03:02] <hondje> I use it for tons of stuff
 hondje: tar is OK, but only for simple things <- that's a BOLD one
[03:02] <hondje> like when you want to scp a bunch of files in a tree
[03:02] <_konrad> hondje: after many experience with menoder/mplayer I have head full of command-line switches
[03:02] <mhz> fabian, sorry ... rboc = box
[03:02] <james__> Seveas, Will k3b mean lots of extra dependencies, as I'm in GNOME
[03:02] <Seveas> james__, yes
[03:02] <hondje> tar, cpio...these are the good things ;-)
[03:03] <xoz> !depends k3b
[03:03] <_konrad> Guybrush|Numb: I only use command-line tar to unpack file, for paking I have right-mouse menu in KDE :)
[03:03] <Seveas> james__, it wound meen 103 mb of downloads...
[03:03] <mhz> fabian, most likely, you'll se a line referring to wlan
[03:03] <hondje> I never tried a gui archiver
[03:03] <fabian> mzh: done.... what should i edit now?
[03:03] <Seveas> james__, it wound meen 103 mb of diskspace, 36 MB downloads
[03:03] <Guybrush|Numb> i think i never used a graphic compressor in linux :)
[03:03] <hondje> click and drag does sound easier
[03:03] <_konrad> and I have bad experience with tar - I lost 1000 + mails, becouse it wasn't add hidden files (.*)
[03:03] <Guybrush|Numb> and slower
[03:04] <mhz> fabian, if so, add a line:  auto wlan (I suppose)
[03:04] <Razor-X> good night, good morning ,whatever
[03:04] <_konrad> have you tried KDE?
[03:04] <Razor-X> they're all homologous to me
[03:04] <mhz> fabian, above the line you currently see referring to wlan
[03:04] <fabian> mhz: it sais : auto wlan0
[03:04] <james__> ok, may as  well eh, whats the point in lots of emtpy disk space / unused bandwidth!
[03:04] <_konrad> right click - and I can have zip, tar.gz, tar.bz2 etc...
[03:04] <hondje> james__: to have in case you need it?
[03:04] <mhz> fabian, ohh, then it is trying to set it when reboots everytime
[03:05] <fabian> mhz: it sais also: iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[03:05] <mhz> fabian, close 'nano' editor by pressing: Ctrl+x
[03:05] <deviant> anyone encounterd problems installing g++-3.4_3.4.3-9ubuntu4_i386.deb ?!?
[03:05] <mhz> fabian, ohhh, then it is trying to get an IP from a "server2
[03:05] <fabian> mhz: and: wireless-essid public (both directly above "auto wlan0"
[03:05] <mhz> fabian, ohhh, then it is trying to get an IP from a "server"
[03:06] <_konrad> to do not make misundertand - I like command line, I always use wget, command line mencoder, but tar is to sophisticated
[03:06] <Seveas> deviant, why are you installing debs instead of using apt-get?
[03:06] <deviant> Seveas: cuz apt gives me errors
[03:06] <hondje> I find tar easier than mencoder
[03:06] <Seveas> deviant, which errors?
[03:06] <Razor-X> _konrad: mencoder is easier than tar?
[03:06] <_konrad> Seveas: do you rememberr nvidia problem? this hels sudo ln -sf /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so.1.0.7174 /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a
[03:06] <Razor-X> are you out of your mind?!
[03:06] <hondje> cpio can get rough though
[03:06] <mhz> fabian, do you have a "server" in you rhouse?
[03:07] <fabian> mhz: i only use wlan at my uni, and there the net is called public. Is that where wireless-essid public refers to?
[03:07] <_konrad> mencoder is very easy form me - I have been translating manual to Polish :)
[03:07] <james__> hondje - yeah man, and I need it now! I've skiped in the past and now its time for some luxuries. lol...
[03:07] <mhz> fabian, are WLANs usually set to get an IP dynamically from anywhere ?? (never used wlans)
[03:07] <hondje> james__: hehe
[03:07] <Seveas> mhz, almost always...
[03:07] <fabian> mhz: depends on what you want! But in my uni they get IP dynamically
[03:07] <mhz> Seveas, oh, no idea
[03:08] <deviant> Seveas: md5sum errors
[03:08] <_konrad> hondje, Razor-X: I've nerer read tar manual :P mencoder I used for everything from grabbing TV-source to DVD-rip
[03:08] <mhz> fabian, there, I suppose is good ide
[03:08] <mhz> fabian, there, I suppose is good idea
[03:08] <hondje> _konrad: ever try the nvidia installer with either --no-recursion or --force-tls=[tls type]  ?
[03:08] <geetergod> Can someone in here help me with my sound?
[03:08] <_konrad> hondje: I fall back to DEBs
[03:08] <Seveas> deviant, do you use us.archive.ubuntu.com or ca.archive.ubuntu.com?
[03:08] <amir__> there's a single kernel option i want to enable, which is not in the default config of my kernel. what is the simplest way to recompile a kernel with a few modifications in ubuntu?
[03:08] <hondje> okie
[03:08] <mhz> Seveas, so maybe you could help fabian lot betta than me
[03:08] <_konrad> hondje: with this option it was error too
[03:08] <Seveas> amir__, apt-get install kernel-source make-kpkg
[03:08] <Razor-X> whenever I try and apt-get ftpd... the md5sum doesen't pass...
[03:09] <fabian> mhz: btw: why do I see your writing in red? is that some option in here?
[03:09] <amir__> seveas, thanks
[03:09] <Seveas> and use make-kpkg to make a new kernel package
[03:09] <_konrad> I'll wait for nvidia update for breeze
[03:09] <Razor-X> is it just trouble with us.ubuntu?
[03:09] <Seveas> fabian, now you see me in red too ;)
[03:09] <Seveas> fabian, it's because your name is in these lines
[03:09] <mhz> fabian, usually, you can set your Chat application. my case, I use XChat
[03:09] <Seveas> Razor-X, yes
[03:09] <fabian> Seveas, ah, i see
[03:09] <Seveas> us.archive /ca.archive are broken
[03:10] <Razor-X> Seveas: hmmm, ok :(
[03:10] <fabian> mhz, I use xchat too! ;)
[03:10] <deviant> Seveas: that will be us.archive.ubuntu.com
[03:10] <Razor-X> i'll use uk.archive in the meantime
[03:10] <mhz> fabian, and, also i am starting sentences with your name so they'd get highlighted in your screen
[03:10] <amir__> seveas, i see there's a linux-patch-ubuntu-2.6.10 package.. should i use that as well somehow? i want to create an exact replica of the binary kernel im using now, with a single option modified..
[03:10] <Seveas> deviant, stop using us.archive for now, simply use archive.ubuntu.com
[03:10] <marin> hey, thanks boys. It seems that works with xine
[03:10] <fabian> Seveas, mhz, so what about my wlan then?
[03:11] <deviant> Seveas: just archive? nu .us or .ca ?
[03:11] <Seveas> amir__, if you apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r) you get all these things, they are in the same source package
[03:11] <mhz> fabian, in my small knowledge base, I assume your wlan is searching for an IP which can't get :)
[03:11] <hondje> Seveas: you handy w/ hardware?
[03:11] <Seveas> deviant, indeed, just deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main
[03:11] <Seveas> etc...
[03:11] <amir__> seveas, oh, gotchya. thanks again.
[03:11] <Seveas> hondje, a bit
[03:11] <fabian> mhz, so in my uni, it would work then?
[03:11] <Seveas> fabian, dunno about your wlan, what;s the problem?
[03:12] <hondje> Seveas: mind if I msg you 5 lines from my logs?
[03:12] <Seveas> hondje, be my guest
[03:12] <fabian> Seveas, i THINK it doesn't work, but I'm not sure anymore... ;)
[03:12] <Seveas> fabian, what is the encryption of the wlan?
[03:12] <mhz> fabian, yes, if it worked yesterday and it has 'auto wlan0' in /interfaces, yes
[03:12] <geetergod> Can someone help me with my sound please?
[03:12] <fabian> Seveas, what is encryption?????
[03:13] <deviant> Seveas: where can i past to you an error, to look at it ?
[03:13] <Seveas> deviant, use ubuntu.pastebin.com (or a private message)O
[03:13] <mhz> geetergod, i'd like to but i am not sure I'll be any helpt to you (my hardware/sound knowledge is zero. anyways, shoot
[03:14] <Seveas> geetergod, read the topic: just ask. If someone can help you, you will be helped
[03:14] <mhz> deviant, usually, in chats, you type /query the_nick_you_want_to_chat_with
[03:14] <geetergod> mhz, I got a new 7.1 sound card last night and my surround and center speakers still wont work... but in the process of trying to figure it out i managed to kill the sound all together...
[03:14] <deviant> mhz: i know that, but i think is best to ask 1st
[03:15] <mhz> deviant, good point! it's more polite
[03:15] <geetergod> When i type 'esd' in a command line i get '/dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[03:15] <geetergod> '
[03:15] <mhz> geetergod, :( No idea at all :)
[03:15] <geetergod> hm...
[03:15] <mhz> sorry
[03:15] <fabian> Seveas, what did you mean with: "what is the encryption of the wlan"???
[03:16] <geetergod> is there anyway to restart the whole sound thing?
[03:16] <Seveas> Fabian, do you need to use WEP/WPA or something else?
[03:16] <deviant> can you guys recomend me a dc++ client ?
[03:16] <mhz> geetergod, AFAIK, there at least 3 deamons/systems that can control your sound... ALSA, OSS, eSound, etc
[03:17] <Fabian> Seveas, talk in englisch please! ;) Sorry, I'm absolutely new. What is WEP/WPA?
[03:17] <Seveas> deviant, valknut (package dcgui-qt) seems to be used a lot
[03:17] <mhz> geetergod, you may try with one of those and see what happens
[03:17] <geetergod> When i try to play a song in xmms i get "Please check that: Your soundcard is configured properly. You have the correct plugin selected and No other program is blocking the soundcard.
[03:17] <mhz> geetergod, now, HOW? no idea
[03:17] <geetergod> i tried ALSA and OSS
[03:17] <mhz> geetergod, I would have done the same you did :)
[03:18] <mhz> but everytiemi get to those issues I never succedded
[03:18] <geetergod> How do i check if theres another program blocking the soundcard?
[03:18] <deviant> Seveas: it can be installed by apt ?
[03:18] <Seveas> deviant, yes
[03:18] <deviant> Seveas: ok
[03:19] <blackgibson> geetergod: Has sound ever worked? and if not, did you google your soundcard to see if it is supported by alsa or oss?
[03:19] <geetergod> blackgibson, yes it did work last night before someone tried "helping" me get the surround to work, i also have a black gibson, if you mean guitar.
[03:20] <itay> hey? guys?
[03:20] <blackgibson> Greetergod: Odd that. and yes, a Explorer
[03:21] <geetergod> blackgibson, cool, i have a couple les pauls
[03:21] <Fabian> Seveas, just googled WEP and WPA.... I don't know if I need that. In windows you just connect to the wlan net an start vpn then
[03:21] <blackgibson> Greetergod: my other guitars are fenders & ibanezes ;)
[03:21] <itay> i was wondering where i can get some help about troubleshooting startup problems with ubuntu, it just doesn't load anymore..
[03:21] <Fabian> Seveas, I got vpnc installed at it works fine
[03:21] <Seveas> Fabian, aha. Given that you need a VPN, you will probably not need wep or wpa
[03:22] <geetergod> blackgibson, yah i also have a telecaster and an esp and a couple acoustics, still wish my sound worked :)
[03:22] <Fabian> Seveas, very well then.... So I'll try that wlan on monday
[03:22] <blackgibson> Greetergod: My obvious advice would be to undo what was done to make surround work and cross your fingers. sorry i dont have anything more constructive to say. I have never had a sound problem in my years of linuxing. Lucky i guess
[03:23] <Fabian> Seveas, If it just searches for an IP adress, (as mhz said) it should work as soon as it finds that "public" net. Right?
[03:23] <co_ubuntu> hello every body
[03:23] <Seveas> Fabian, well, yes
[03:23] <co_ubuntu> I just use UBUNTU
[03:23] <Fingertips> Seveas, do you knwo how to edit the wine config so i can play starcraft w/o a cdrom error
[03:23] <geetergod> blackgibson, i went into Volume Control and did something with Multi Track Internal Clock
[03:23] <co_ubuntu> what's default password for root?
[03:24] <co_ubuntu> because I can't login for root
[03:24] <co_ubuntu> please...
[03:24] <Morten^Toft> same password as the normal user
[03:24] <Morten^Toft> if you only created one
[03:24] <Seveas> co_ubuntu: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[03:24] <Seveas> there is no root password...
[03:24] <geetergod> blackgibson, can you go to you volume control and Edit, Pref, and see what your Multi Track Clock # is?
[03:24] <Seveas> Fingertips, ENOCLUE, i never used starcraft
[03:25] <blackgibson> greetergod: I have never seen that setting. It may be specific to your sound hardware
[03:25] <co_ubuntu> thank you
[03:25] <co_ubuntu> but I can't change screen resolution
[03:25] <geetergod> blackgibson, its in ALSA sound
[03:25] <Seveas> co_ubuntu: To find out ho you can change your dispplay's resolution, go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:25] <co_ubuntu> how to change screen resolution? If I don't have root user
[03:26] <co_ubuntu> thank you for your all help
[03:26] <Seveas> co_ubuntu, go to the page i just mentioned...
[03:26] <Fabian> Seveas, alright. So second problem: The hard part!
[03:26] <saruany> hello
[03:26] <Fingertips> Seveas, can you install ati drivers on ubuntu
[03:26] <DR_K13> HIHI
[03:26] <co_ubuntu> thank you
[03:26] <saruany> thanx for saying hi to me
[03:26] <Seveas> Fingertips, they are in the linux-restricted-modules package
[03:26] <Fabian> Seveas, Fingertips that's exactly my secont problem
[03:26] <Fingertips> ?
[03:26] <blackgibson> greetergod: Right, the options in Volume Control ( or at least my mixer ) change depending on what hardware you have. i dont see it here
[03:26] <itay> i was wondering where i can get some help about troubleshooting startup problems with ubuntu, it just doesn't load anymore..
[03:27] <blackgibson> greetergod: Im using a SB Live 5.1 for reference
[03:27] <Seveas> Fingertips, sudo apt-get install linux-686 (intel processor) or linux-k7 (amd processor)
[03:27] <saruany> any girls want to talk
[03:27] <Seveas> that will install the driver
[03:27] <Fabian> Seveas, i don't have to use the drivers provided by ati?
[03:27] <Fingertips> Seveas, what if im using an AMD barton, shouldnt that be the same as an intel
[03:27] <Seveas> Fabian, these are the drivers provided by ati
[03:27] <geetergod> blackgibson, im trying OSS mixer now with no results
[03:28] <Seveas> Fingertips, K7
[03:28] <Fingertips> Seveas, ok...
[03:28] <Fabian> Seveas, for any amd?
[03:28] <jayeola> hi guys. has anyone used a pci controller card with the it8212 chipset?
[03:28] <Seveas> Fabian,Fingertips: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:28] <Seveas> Fabian, for anythin that is K7 or newer
[03:28] <Seveas> otherwise you need the linux-386 package
[03:28] <saruany> any females he girls
[03:29] <Fabian> Seveas, I bought it in october 04 so k7 right?
[03:29] <Seveas> saruany, please go to a more appropriate channel for that...
[03:29] <Seveas> Fabian, definitely
[03:29] <saruany> any person here that is not a computer geek
[03:29] <Seveas> saruany: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct
[03:30] <saruany> hey seveas FUCK YOU BITCH
[03:30] <blackgibson> Greetergod: This is how i understand it. ALSA is now default in the linux kernel, so if your card is supported by ALSA, that is what it will be using.There is a OSS Compatability Layer for ALSA, which is why OSS mixer works even if you are using ALSA. I say this cause if you have a ALSA card and ALSA is causing your problems, fucking with OSS mixer isnt gonna help.
[03:30] <Fabian> Seveas, these drivers work with 3d acceleration? for games etc?
[03:30] <Seveas> Fabian, yes
[03:31] <toresbe> uhm
[03:31] <geetergod> blackgibson, how can i just make it so im using 1?
[03:32] <geetergod> blackgibson, or how do i configure my soundcard?
[03:32] <blackgibson> Greetergod: IIRC, it will only use OOS Compatiablity if you use a program that reguires ALSA
[03:32] <Fabian> Seveas, It sais something of NVidia. but I don't have NVidia! I got Ati Radeon 9200 Mobility
[03:32] <Jormundgand> Hmm. What the hell is going on? I try to access the network and it pops up a dialog box saying "you need to log onto jormundgand@ketsuban domain WARREN" and nothing I type for the password seems to work.
[03:32] <voth> is there any other way to check which driver ubuntu is using other thatn cat /proc/driver/blah, for some reason this installation I know is using a ati based driver by there is no /proc/driver/ati <- guess on my system
[03:32] <geetergod> blackgibson, its geetergod not greetergod :)
[03:32] <Seveas> Fabian, that page has ati instructions too
[03:33] <Seveas> voth, lsmod lists loaded kernel modules, that might help
[03:34] <geetergod> blackgibson, its saying ALSA device "default" is already in use by another program.
[03:34] <blackgibson> geetergod: heh, sorry, only been up for 30 minuites or so
[03:34] <Fabian> Seveas, I'll have a go
[03:34] <Fabian> cu later
[03:34] <geetergod> blackgibson, me too heh
[03:34] <geetergod> blackgibson, now how do i kill another program that it could be open in?
[03:34] <blackgibson> geetergod: well then, that is a clue isnt it? what else do you have running?
[03:34] <guest> hello all........I'm the new on UBUNTU...anyone can help me pls..^^
[03:35] <geetergod> blackgibson, i have this chat running, thats all
[03:35] <Seveas> guest, read the topic please: just ask questions
[03:35] <voth> Seveas, under drm it shows radeon (then again, not sure i'm reading the output correctly)
[03:35] <blackgibson> geetergod: open a termnial and type " ps -ux " ( without the quotations of course )
[03:35] <blackgibson> geetergod: that will list all the programs you are running
[03:35] <guest> sory all....cause I really start this session for 1st
[03:36] <jayeola> does anyone use a pci controller card here?
[03:36] <geetergod> blackgibson, the top line says "Warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See http://procps.sf.net/faq.html
[03:36] <geetergod> "
[03:37] <blackgibson> geetergod: works dandy for me
[03:38] <forester> I am wondering... does someone make a smallish display which is well supported by Linux and FreeBSD. It only has to do text...
[03:39] <Fingertips> has anybody had starcraft work successfully on wine? i always get a cd missing error
[03:39] <forester> I'd love to pay 100 or 200 bucks for a little lcd to connect to boxes.
[03:39] <geetergod> blackgibson, heres what i get http://pastebin.com/298900
[03:39] <geetergod> blackgibson, thats when i did ps -ux and -aux
[03:39] <forester> Fingertips: That sounds like a good web search.
[03:39] <Ycros> fonsken: smaller ones tend to be more expensive :E
[03:40] <forester> Ycros: Not "tiny"
[03:40] <forester> Ycros: smallish :p
[03:40] <forester> there is a medium ground between tiny and large which I have always found is cheapest of all.
[03:41] <forester> In thi sday, I suspect what I am looking for is specialized and perhaps targetted to administrators/hackers.
[03:41] <forester> Because no one makes like an 8 inch lcd or something.
[03:41] <forester> They make tiny or large.
[03:41] <forester> So, I ask.
[03:41] <Seveas> forester, have you looked at thinkgeek?
[03:41] <forester> I will
[03:42] <CarlFK> forester - you want a little LCD display - there are some out there
[03:43] <CarlFK> geetergod - get your 5.1 sound working?
[03:43] <forester> Hmm..
[03:43] <forester> take a digital photo display and connect it to a linux box... i wonder..
[03:43] <geetergod> CarlFK, no sir, now i have no sound, says the sounds being used in another program
[03:43] <hondje> forester: sony did that and made /.
[03:43] <hondje> then again, I made /.
[03:44] <forester> what for?
[03:44] <hondje> My uncle dying
[03:44] <forester> who's that?
[03:44] <hondje> No one famous
[03:44] <forester> why was it on slashdot?
[03:44] <hondje> But the NYT did a piece on what happens to your data when you die (and painted me as a n00b)
[03:44] <CarlFK> forester - how is this: http://linuxfocus.org/English/July2000/article165.shtml
[03:45] <hondje> it was half interviews w/ me, on how losing data sucks, and half w/ a data recovery dude
[03:45] <hondje> nothing grand
[03:45] <forester> CarlFK: not quite right...
[03:45] <forester> I wanted a small display, multiple lines.
[03:45] <forester> You know, like maybe 80x25 characters.
[03:45] <forester> Maybe an 5-10 inch lcd monitor.
[03:46] <forester> or something better/more specializeds
[03:46] <TokenBad> I am so confused about sound on this system...it works for the computer system...when it boots and shuts down..and it works for like cd audio..and stuff like that..but when try to play a game in cedega it says unable to init base sound services
[03:46] <forester> a fast led with room for 80x25 characters might be interesting if it had linux console support
[03:47] <CarlFK> forester - what abould old 486ish laptops?
[03:47] <Seveas> CarlFK, you need a video-in...
[03:47] <Jormundgand> Now, where do I get Breezy support, since you lot are so dead-set against it and are so convinced installing it will make your system explode.
[03:47] <forester> They have the kind of thing I would like to see in standlone form, sure.
[03:47] <forester> So do large digital picture frames I suppose.
[03:47] <Seveas> or a serial cable and serial terminal connection :)
[03:47] <CarlFK> Seveas - "I" don't need squat ;)
[03:47] <Seveas> CarlFK, ack ;)
[03:48] <djm62> Jormundgand: breezy is unsupported....I guess you could pay someone
[03:49] <james__> RythmBox wont let me edit mp3 tags? Is this normal?
[03:49] <hondje> Jormundgand: either people are newbies and can't help with ugly problems like you'd find in breezy, or grumpy and think if you run it, you should know enough to do it. Did you check #ubuntu-devel ?
[03:50] <Morten^Toft> is the wxvlc_0.8.1-1ubuntu7_i386.deb package in the repositary corrupted ?
[03:50] <Jormundgand> hondje: My problem doesn't seem too ugly - it's just that it asks me for a password when I open the network servers window and I have no idea what to do then.
[03:50] <forester> Little portable dvd player screens might work
[03:50] <forester> I think someone should do this..
[03:50] <Morten^Toft> i get a MD5Sum mismatch error
[03:50] <hondje> Jormundgand: does it take your smbpasswd?
[03:50] <forester> I think sys admins and/or hackers with many boxes would find it convenient.
[03:50] <Jormundgand> hondje: I don't HAVE a smbpasswd.
[03:51] <hondje> I use nfs on everything
[03:51] <bleck> hello, does anyone know how to change the default port of the vnc remote desktop server?
[03:51] <jeroen_> Jormundgand, windows clients who try to connect to you need a password, while you haven't set a password?
[03:51] <jeroen_> Jormundgand, I have the same problem :(
[03:52] <Jormundgand> jeroen_: No, I'm trying to view the network servers window, and it's asking for a password from me but there's nothing on the network but me so I don't know what to do.
[03:52] <Jormundgand> All Windows shares should be in the Windows shares folder.
[03:52] <hondje> Jormundgand: did you try yours?
[03:52] <Jormundgand> Yes.
[03:53] <hondje> but if it makes you feel better, I can't get lm-sensors working after 5 years
[03:54] <lsuactiafner> err
[03:54] <lsuactiafner> whats the problem?
[03:54] <lsuactiafner> mount -t smbfs //ip/share /mnt/mount_point
[03:56] <Jormundgand> lsuactiafner: http://ketsuban.net/images/stuff/Screenshot-Authentication%20Required.png
[03:56] <CarlFK> geetergod - I found this: http://www.calel.cl/pci-devices/alsa-device-list.html  which let me to: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Ensoniq&card=Soundscape.&chip=&module=ice1724#opt
[03:56] <Jormundgand> And that's just from accessing the Network Servers window. (There's no other Linux servers on the network, so that should only have me on it.)
[03:56] <CarlFK> bleck...  5900
[03:56] <geetergod> CarlFK, nice
[03:57] <DeathWing> hello people
[03:57] <TokenBad> anyone have idea on sound issue?
[03:57] <fr500> Jormundgand, what is the problem?
[03:58] <Jormundgand> fr500: http://ketsuban.net/images/stuff/Screenshot-Authentication%20Required.png - when I try to access the Network Shares window it throws that up and I have no idea what to do.
[03:59] <TokenBad> who here uses cedega?
[04:00] <nasr> allow
[04:01] <Jormundgand> Nevermind, fixed it.
[04:01] <lsuactiafner> what was up?
[04:01] <lsuactiafner> i didnt get the question, just saw share..
[04:01] <DeathWing> hey guys where do i change the time settings to display 12 hours
[04:01] <nasr> allow ana150
[04:02] <Jormundgand> lsuactiafner: I made a Samba password for myself and it took it.
[04:02] <nasr> ana
[04:02] <nasr> ana
[04:02] <nasr> ana
[04:02] <nasr> ana
[04:02] <nasr> ana
[04:02] <djm62> DeathWing: right-click->preferences
[04:02] <nasr> ana150
[04:03] <TokenBad> what codec is needed for playing mp3's on ubuntu?
[04:03] <DeathWing> oh so there it, thank you djm62
[04:03] <Jormundgand> nasr, what are you on about?
[04:03] <soulfly> Hi all. I want to use the nptl in libc.  Is it safe to switch to breezy or should I rather try to enable this in hoary?  Is that even possible without major work?
[04:04] <fr500> Jormundgand, sometimes windows needs some punishment to allow
[04:04] <Jormundgand> fr500: Indeed.
[04:04] <nasr> i want girlfriend
[04:04] <DeathWing> this is great i thought i couldnt right click on it, hehehe i really need to explore
[04:04] <Jormundgand> nasr: We don't always want what we get. :( Try beer.
[04:04] <hondje> nasr: You're in the wrong place to find one
[04:04] <Jormundgand> s/want what we get/get what we want/
[04:05] <soulfly> oh. judging by the discussion I might be in the wrong channel for my question.  :)    peace
[04:06] <lsuactiafner> lol
[04:06] <lsuactiafner> hondje : where did you buy here?
[04:06] <Jormundgand> soulfly: Breezy is fairly safe. There's a symlink problem you need to correct when you first switch but it's pretty okay after that.
[04:06] <hondje> lsuactiafner: online, of course
[04:06] <hondje> On the downside, our daughter is crazy
[04:06] <DanielN> how can i handle the tun0 interface?
[04:06] <lsuactiafner> lol
[04:06] <soulfly> hondje: is nptl on by default in hoarY?
[04:07] <hondje> soulfly: I don't know, but I was hit by a bug in a commercial pkg I use that's blamed on nptl, so I guessed it was
[04:07] <soulfly> Jormundgand: how "instable" is breezy.   Like debian unstable?  (which i'm used to)
[04:07] <Jormundgand> soulfly: IMO stable. Hasn't crashed yet.
[04:07] <hondje> more like debian experimental
[04:07] <DeathWing> wow, ubuntu is really stable
[04:07] <soulfly> :-)
[04:08] <DeathWing> the most stable distro ive used
[04:08] <Jormundgand> There's constant package problems - nvidia-glx currently has an outdated dependency meaning it can't be installed.
[04:08] <DeathWing> well ive only used 4 lol
[04:08] <ana150> what's wrong with that nasr? :D
[04:08] <hondje> DeathWing: Try debian hehe
[04:08] <Jormundgand> But the packages themselves are stable.
[04:08] <soulfly> but debian experimental hasn't ever been complete for me.. it's just "some packages waiting for unstable"
[04:08] <DeathWing> well ok, i have one partition left i could install debian there
[04:09] <soulfly> hondje, Jormundgand : thanks for the help
[04:09] <DeathWing> hondhe
[04:10] <hondje> DeathWing: You should give it a spin sometime
[04:10] <hondje> not as fancy as ubuntu, but built like a tank
[04:10] <soulfly> hondje: are you using i386 or compat?
[04:10] <DeathWing> yeah hondje, they say debian is stable but not so friendly
[04:10] <hondje> yeah
[04:11] <hondje> DeathWing: if you can use apt w/out synaptic, you can use debian
[04:11] <hondje> soulfly: yes
[04:11] <DeathWing> yeah hondje sure
[04:11] <hondje> Serious, DeathWing
[04:11] <hondje> Linux is linux is linux
[04:11] <DeathWing> ill give it a try
[04:11] <hondje> slack and gentoo are a little different, but the rest are fairly standard
[04:12] <DeathWing> im currently using, mandrake, fedora and suse but ubuntu the best ive seen
[04:13] <hondje> All have their plusses and minuses
[04:14] <hondje> like fedora has all the 'cool' toys for the kids who love new stuff, suse is the shit on a laptop, mandrake is nice and friendly, etc
[04:14] <DeathWing> yeah ofcourse hondje, and if i have problems i can always google for help
[04:15] <hondje> yeah, google was made for linux
[04:15] <ana150> DeathWing: except if you google, you have to speak 01110011
[04:15] <blackgibson> hondje: I dunno, im a "all the cool toys" kind of guy and I convereted from Fedora to Ubuntu
[04:15] <ana150> i mean that usually those helps are too hard to do for beginners
[04:16] <martinjh99> All my printouts are getting cut off at the top and bottom of the page - The headers and footers aren't getting printed but cut off half way.  What can I do to change the default papersize to A4?
[04:16] <DeathWing> ana150, lol, hondje mandrakes nice but not as stable as ubuntu
[04:16] <hondje> blackgibson: dont take the fun out of pigeonholing distros :(
[04:16] <magog> anyone get enlightenmtent dr17 working? i tried that link in the forums but couldent get it to work for me
[04:16] <ana150> DeathWing: but don't you agree?
[04:16] <hondje> magog: yes
[04:17] <hondje> soulfly: yeah, same here
[04:17] <hondje> I got tired of running sid and waiting for sarge to come out
[04:17] <ana150> how you can convert debian?
[04:17] <blackgibson> I just got sick of RPM
[04:17] <hondje> RPM sucks
[04:17] <blackgibson> Ubuntu is the first non RPm distro ive stayed on for more than a month
[04:17] <DeathWing> anal150 : well yeah, but i must admit, it helped me alot
[04:17] <hondje> most of that is lack of unified pkg management like deb/ub have
[04:17] <blackgibson> i cant see myself leaving it any time soon
[04:18] <soulfly> blackgibson: take a deep breath.. in here.. your safe from rpm.. they'll not harm you
[04:18] <ana150> DeathWing: well it sure does help when you find some good pages, but at first it was useless
[04:18] <hondje> ubuntu works for me...debian underneath, so I'm happy and stable, new stuff on top, so I'm having fun
[04:18] <martinjh99> All my printouts are getting cut off at the top and bottom of the page - The headers and footers aren't getting printed but cut off half way.  What can I do to change the default papersize to A4?
[04:18] <hondje> yeah, and man pages are useless for newbies
[04:18] <magog> hondje, how did you get enlightenment goin?
[04:19] <soulfly> hondje: are you on breezy or hoary?
[04:19] <hondje> magog: downloaded it from cvs and built it, hoary
[04:19] <CarlFK> martinjh99 - weird. my papser size defaults to A4 and I am in the US
[04:19] <magog> hondje, k, thats what imma do
[04:19] <DeathWing> ana150 : well, we just have to be resourceful, speaking of resourceful? huh i dont believe it came from me! lol
[04:19] <hondje> magog: you're hip to downloading dev libs?
[04:20] <martinjh99> I have set A4 in Firefox for eg and its still getting cut off at the top and bottom... ;)  Somewhere there is a setting thats not set for a4...
[04:20] <magog> hondje, well its too nice...i must have
[04:20] <hondje> the configure scripts detect everything, so no need to pass options to them
[04:20] <CarlFK> martinjh99 - in the printer setup
[04:20] <ana150> how easy is it to get wlan working with ubuntu and gentoo?, i found out that kubuntu has somekind of wlan support includet at start, but do i have to download something for ubuntu to get it work?
[04:20] <magog> so yea im gonna have to compile alot
[04:20] <hondje> magog: it's not that bad to build
[04:20] <magog> 13 or sokmething right?
[04:20] <DeathWing> ana150: do u have a webcam and if u do does ubuntu support it
[04:20] <blackgibson> soulfly: Deb just wasnt nice enough to get me over the brain damages of the other deb baided distros ive used in the past. Ubuntu is the first deb distro ive been comfy with..mind you, alot of that has to do with more up to date packages
[04:20] <hondje> when you hit a 'missing libfoobar', just apt-cache search foobar and find it, and go again
[04:20] <magog> cool
[04:21] <CarlFK> ana150 - for the most part, the installer finds  your wifi card and sets it up
[04:21] <martinjh99> CarlFK>Set to A4 in the properties...
[04:21] <CarlFK> martinjh99 - then I du no.
[04:21] <TokenBad> well I give up...still no sound in cedega
[04:21] <martinjh99> Hey no worries mate I'll find out how to fix it sooner or later!
[04:21] <hondje> TokenBad: did you killall esd?
[04:21] <ana150> CarlFK: ok thanks, that helps me a lot if im going to install it to my sisters pc
[04:22] <TokenBad> I went and edited a file like one site said
[04:22] <TokenBad> logged out and logged back in
[04:22] <soulfly> blackgibson:  I understand. Ubuntu is the first deb dist (haven't looked at MEPIS) I can comfortably recommend to relative newbies :)
[04:22] <ana150> DeathWing: no, i don't have a webcam, and i don't even wan't to
[04:22] <TokenBad> tried to pick oss
[04:22] <TokenBad> and test it
[04:22] <DeathWing> huh ok
[04:22] <mp_> ndiswrapper problems: ndiswrapper -l returns: "Prisma02 invalid driver!"
[04:23] <mp_> ??
[04:23] <hondje> I can't recommed ubuntu to real newbies who aren't computer-inclined
[04:23] <blackgibson> soulfly: im not a newb, but i dont use linux for anything more fancy than a desktop, so you know.. i tend to have newbish needs in some ways ;)
[04:23] <TokenBad> then it says failed to construct test pipeline or something like that
[04:23] <Mez> hondje - thats what we hope to change sith the UNP
[04:23] <dark> do you have a prism 2 card mp_?
[04:23] <TokenBad> how do you do killall esd?
[04:24] <hondje> Mez: UNP?
[04:24] <martinjh99> type killall esd at a terminal!
[04:24] <mp_> dark: yea, it is a dwl-g122 - i d'loaded the latest driver
[04:24] <hondje> Oh, I thought of something nice to have in breezy
[04:24] <mp_> dark: and follwoed http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php/Ubuntu
[04:24] <hondje> since we're all sudo-fied and anti-terminal
[04:24] <soulfly> blackgibson: I see.  I'm trying to optimize HL2 performance on my ubuntu dist :)
[04:24] <hondje> on apps that aren't yours, you can't delete through nautilus...how about it pops up a gksudo box if you try?
[04:25] <Mez> hondje, the Ubuntu Newbie Project
[04:25] <dark> i think you should be using native drivers and not ndiswrapper
[04:25] <hondje> Mez: ah, link ?
[04:25] <goye2cz> in a terminal, how do I switch to the Desktop?
[04:25] <mp_> dark: ok?
[04:25] <mp_> dark: any hints?
[04:25] <dark> if you have a real prism card. i think the ones for prism are... hold on let me check
[04:25] <blackgibson> soulfly: i dont even want to know. Im already cringing ;)
[04:25] <hondje> goye2cz: ctrl-alt-f7
[04:25] <hondje> blackgibson: I'm in your alley
[04:25] <Mez> hondje - http://www.ubbuntu.com/wiki/UbuntuNewbie
[04:26] <Mez> hondje - http://www.ubuntu.com/wiki/UbuntuNewbie *
[04:26] <goye2cz> hondje: didn't seem to do anything.
[04:26] <hondje> I'm not an IT guy, or computer-saavy, I just want a desktop
[04:26] <blackgibson> UT2004 is gooe enough for me
[04:26] <Mez> still in the "thinking" stages
[04:26] <mp_> dark: FYI: it was not recogniused during install by hardware detect
[04:26] <goye2cz> hondje: I mean switch to the directory Desktop.
[04:26] <hondje> goye2cz: what do you mean terminal?
[04:26] <dark> mp_: just for kicks what laptop do you have, brand and model
[04:26] <hondje> goye2cz: oh, cd $HOME/Desktop
[04:26] <goye2cz> well, I'm working on installing my us122.
[04:26] <blackgibson> hondje: I monley around with all sorts of stuff.. have had webservers and shoutcasts and all manner of geekness up an running, but it really comes back to having a comfy desktop for me
[04:27] <mp_> dark: omnibook 4150 (an oldtimer)
[04:27] <blackgibson> monkey even
[04:27] <hondje> blackgibson: see, way above me :)
[04:27] <dark> mp_: ahh just wondering, mine had a problem where it wouldnt find pcmcia/carbus cards until i did a couple things
[04:27] <hondje> in 2000 windows wouldn't reinstall on my computer, so I bought mandrake since it was half the cost, stayed linux ever since because I like it better.....I'm certainly not a computer guru though :(
[04:27] <dark> mp_: my hp zv5000
[04:27] <mp_> dark: dwl-g122 is USB
[04:28] <dark> mp_: ahh, hmm i guess it would still use prism drivers
[04:28] <Kano_Ubuntu> where is the repository for mc?
[04:28] <goye2cz> hondje: it says no such file or dir.
[04:28] <Kano_Ubuntu> i cant live without it...
[04:28] <hondje> goye2cz: pwd, paste what it says
[04:28] <rommer> what is shorthand for byte?
[04:28] <soulfly> Jormundgand: I guess you don't run any of these programs? http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UniverseCxxTransition
[04:28] <Kano_Ubuntu> universe?
[04:28] <martinjh99> Kano>Universe just installing it to check for ya!
[04:28] <hondje> B?
[04:29] <rommer> hondje: b is then shorthand for bit?
[04:29] <hondje> Mez: good deal man
[04:29] <blackgibson> I started on linux cause i had a crap ass 486 that i was trying to squeeze ever MIPS out if i could
[04:29] <Kano_Ubuntu> just testing my scripts on ubuntu, x preconfig is not really good...
[04:29] <hondje> rommer: I think so, yeah
[04:29] <Mez> hondje - I sope so
[04:29] <goye2cz> hondje: /home/goye2cz
[04:29] <dark> mp_: im looking around on the ubuntu forums :x
[04:29] <hondje> goye2cz: okay, cd Desktop
[04:29] <mp_> dark: cool!
[04:30] <goye2cz> hondje: it's always easier than I'm trying to make it *sigh*
[04:30] <xirtam> what is the sources.list entry for latest ubuntu packages?
[04:30] <hondje> Mez: the only downside I see, and don't take this wrong...but the real newbies don't want to learn, they just want to do
[04:30] <hondje> xirtam: same as always
[04:30] <hondje> they're just links, basically, to the packages
[04:31] <flodine> guys can someone please give me a link to change my resolution to 1900x1200
[04:31] <blackgibson> hondje: amen brother
[04:31] <mp_> dark: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/327797
[04:31] <xirtam> hondje:  i would need the hole path ... i killed my xserver and dont have a browser to look for them ... could you post them here?
[04:32] <hondje> xirtam: http://www.hondje.net/~hondje/sources.list
[04:32] <hondje> oh, no X
[04:32] <tofirius> what's the directory structure to find stuff on the desktop?
[04:32] <ana150> uuh hondjes sources.list, must have!
[04:32] <Mez> hondje
[04:32] <fr500> wget :p
[04:32] <flodine> please guy my suse 9.3 does 1900x1200 cant find anything for ubuntu
[04:32] <Mez> we're planning to helop them do,
[04:32] <xirtam> hondje: it's ok i get them with w3m ...
[04:32] <Mez> get their interest
[04:32] <xirtam> thx
[04:32] <Mez> then let them learn
[04:32] <hondje> xirtam: okay, wget works too
[04:33] <ana150> flodine: do you mean that ubuntu doesn't support as high resolution?
[04:33] <hondje> Mez: It's a noble plan, and will do good I hope :)
[04:33] <flodine> nope
[04:33] <Mez> so do i :d
[04:33] <ana150> flodine: so what do you mean?
[04:33] <blackgibson> torfirius: /home/(username)/Desktop
[04:33] <hondje> ubuntu can support that just fine
[04:33] <tofirius> blackgibson: oh cool.... thanks!!
[04:33] <Mez> I'm hoping it'll be significant enough to push me over the edge and help me be  amber
[04:33] <flodine> ana150
[04:33] <dark> mp_: you are ndiswrapper -i theinffile.inf right?
[04:33] <goye2cz> anyone out there have a solution to install a tascam us122 without taking several hours?
[04:34] <hondje> Mez: amber?
[04:34] <ana150> hondje: well it's just that you usually have to set higher resolutions manually
[04:34] <flodine> ana150 im stuck cant run ubuntu at 1900x1200
[04:34] <hondje> yeah, no dpkg--reconfigure--magic
[04:34] <Mez> a member
[04:34] <hondje> flodine: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:34] <hondje> Mez: oh, okay
[04:34] <Razor-X> yeah, I found out the reason
[04:34] <Razor-X> Azureus uses too much RAM
[04:34] <martinjh99> flodine> Will dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg work?
[04:34] <hondje> flodine: go down to modes, and add that resolution where the rest are
[04:34] <ana150> hondje: damn, i was just saying same :D
[04:35] <mp_> dark: yea, i did ndis -i, if that's what u mean
[04:35] <blackgibson> goye2cz: you are trying to do (semi) pro audio on linux?
[04:35] <hondje> flodine: if you hardware can handle it, and it doesn't work, then you need to edit your horiz/vert setting in the monitor section to match your monitors
[04:35] <goye2cz> blackgibson: right.
[04:35] <goye2cz> blackgibson: checking out the options.
[04:35] <blackgibson> goye2cz: You are either very brave or very misguided my friend ;)
[04:35] <goye2cz> blackgibson: probably both.
[04:36] <dark> dark: you did -i the inf file though right? i guess prisma02.inf?
[04:36] <mp_> dark: yea
[04:36] <blackgibson> goye2cz: Pro audio is the ONLY reason i still dual boot
[04:36] <dark> err mp_: i see someone there with that same error message, mmk
[04:36] <goye2cz> blackgibson: what exactly is it that makes it so hard in linux? Hunting down drivers?
[04:36] <hondje> Sound in linux is a bunch of ugly hacks and work-arounds
[04:37] <djm62> not to mention the lack of pro software
[04:37] <blackgibson> goye2cz: actually it is a ( increasingly less bad ) lack of good user end software
[04:37] <hondje> well, good software can make ugly hacks invisible :)
[04:37] <goye2cz> blackgibson: well right now I'm using N-track on windows so I doubt it would be a step down as far as that goes.
[04:37] <hondje> but there'd be that software by now, I think, if sound wasn't so troublesome :-/
[04:38] <djm62> I keep hoping someone can use jack, ladspa and pygtk to make Reason in a couple of months
[04:38] <blackgibson> goye2cz: linux FINALLY has a low latency audio system comparale to ASIO, but as far as DAWs go.. ugh...
[04:38] <mads_> Hey all.  Trying to get WPA up and running on my ASUS M2400N laptop with a ipw2100 card.  Do any of you have experience with that?
[04:38] <blackgibson> goye2cz: Ardour would be great if it would stop crashing on my ass
[04:39] <goye2cz> huh... not sounding so promising.
[04:39] <hondje> how does video compare to windows?
[04:39] <dark> mp_: from what the ndiswrapper site says, you should try the drivers from the www.ralink.com.tw/supp-1.htm site
[04:39] <hondje> I haven't used it for anything in so many years, I have not a clue
[04:39] <blackgibson> goye2cz: Video is good....
[04:39] <blackgibson> er..
[04:39] <djm62> video shows moving images, windows just show you what's on the other side
[04:40] <blackgibson> hondje: video is in a far better state than audio
[04:40] <hondje> roger that, blackgibson
[04:40] <blackgibson> hell, Film GIMP is used in hollywood
[04:40] <mads_> I'm using the ipw2100 driver, should I use ndiswrapper instead?
[04:40] <blackgibson> forget what they changed the name to
[04:40] <djm62> cinepaint
[04:40] <hondje> I still do most of my dv stuff from my camera on the mac
[04:40] <blackgibson> cinepaint, thanks
[04:40] <hondje> kino is nice though
[04:40] <Howitzer> Can i use the Debian Fluxbox on Ubuntu?
[04:41] <hondje> Howitzer: even better, you can use the ubuntu fluxbox :)
[04:41] <Howitzer> Oo
[04:41] <Howitzer> ubuntu fluxbox exists?
[04:41] <djm62> hondje: do you run linux ppc?
[04:41] <hondje> Howitzer: Yessir
[04:41] <mp_> dark: hmm... the USB source code version in the linux section?
[04:41] <Howitzer> waar dan?
[04:41] <hondje> djm62: oh nooooooooo
[04:41] <hondje> the mini mac is the missus's, only for touching with camera-use
[04:41] <djm62> :) gotcha
[04:41] <Howitzer> op fluxbox.scourgeforce vind ik niets van Ubuntu
[04:42] <Howitzer> Oo
[04:42] <dark> mp_: well apparently that card has a different chipset, you might have to look into it a bit more, but the ndiswrapper site lists the drivers needed for alot of cards
[04:42] <djm62> Howitzer: use "apt-cache search fluxbox"
[04:42] <Howitzer> then why do you have a dutchies nme :/
[04:42] <blackgibson> goye2cz: check it.  http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=vendor-Tascam#matrix
[04:42] <hondje> Howitzer: fluxbox is in universe, apt-get install fluxbox fluxconf fbpager fbdesk should get you going
[04:43] <dark> mp_: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php
[04:43] <hondje> Howitzer: because ik bin het gekker snoodaard
[04:43] <dark> mp_: go to the first link, list
[04:43] <hondje> actually, my dutchie friends mutated my nick into hondje, and it's catchy, so I kept it
[04:43] <Howitzer> what the hell hondje  :x
[04:43] <Howitzer> lol
[04:43] <goye2cz> blackgibson: already been there. couldn't figure the site out. Left screaming.
[04:43] <hondje> I spend most my time online in a telnet talker based in amsterdam
[04:43] <Howitzer> hondje=doggie (little doggie)
[04:43] <hondje> Yeah
[04:44] <mp_> dark: ok
[04:44] <hondje> my normal nick, as it were, is smitedogg
[04:44] <Howitzer> okay
[04:44] <hondje> from that came dogg, then doggy....
[04:44] <hondje> mutation
[04:44] <Howitzer> i'm going to try fluxbox \ o /
[04:44] <Howitzer> lol
[04:44] <Howitzer> you mutant beast :D
[04:44] <hondje> to make matters worse, my webserver is in amsterdam
[04:45] <Howitzer> what webserver?
[04:45] <hondje> my webserver
[04:45] <fr500> hello
[04:45] <Howitzer> what do you run on it?
[04:45] <hondje> xs4all hosts it for a very reasonable price
[04:45] <Howitzer> ogh yeah
[04:45] <HawkeVIPER> hondje, mine is in VA with quad 100mbit pipes =P
[04:45] <Howitzer> xs4all
[04:46] <fr500> i start getting this kind of messages, then i gotta restart my nic to have internet
[04:46] <fr500> NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth1: transmit timed out
[04:46] <fr500> 0000:01:02.0: tulip_stop_rxtx() failed
[04:46] <fr500> NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth1: transmit timed out
[04:46] <fr500> 0000:01:02.0: tulip_stop_rxtx() failed
[04:46] <fr500> NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth1: transmit timed out
[04:46] <fr500> 0000:01:02.0: tulip_stop_rxtx() failed
[04:46] <fr500> NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth1: transmit timed out
[04:46] <fr500> 0000:01:02.0: tulip_stop_rxtx() failed
[04:46] <fr500> 0000:01:02.0: tulip_stop_rxtx() failed
[04:46] <goye2cz> alright, I think I've spent enough time on this today. I'm outta here. Thank all for the help.
[04:46] <fr500> oops
[04:46] <hondje> my blog (mostly trolling for hatemail), pictures, .debs I made, etc
[04:46] <fr500> sorry didnt mean to span
[04:46] <HawkeVIPER> dude, use pastebin
[04:46] <Howitzer> cool
[04:46] <Howitzer> give the url :D
[04:46] <fr500> HawkeVIPER, i copied one line only i thought
[04:46] <hondje> Howitzer: Don't like xs4all?
[04:46] <fr500> anyway, any ideas on what is wrong
[04:46] <HawkeVIPER> lol
[04:47] <Frafra> hi all
[04:47] <Howitzer> wth
[04:47] <HawkeVIPER> fr500, it might be the ipv6 thing
[04:47] <HawkeVIPER> disable that and try again
[04:47] <Frafra> how to transfer files from pc to tel by bluetooth?
[04:47] <mp_> dark: this may be useful info: (USA dlink site has wrong drivers!)  :-/
[04:47] <fr500> :[ how?
[04:47] <Howitzer> apt-get install fluxbox wmfrog fluxconf fbdesk fbpager
[04:47] <Howitzer>     <= only 800kb? Oo
[04:48] <CarlFK> Frafra - files or name/phone numbers?
[04:48] <Howitzer> Setting up fluxbox (0.9.11-1) ...
[04:48] <Howitzer> Setting up fluxconf (0.9.5-1) ...
[04:48] <Howitzer> Setting up wmfrog (0.1.6-2) ...
[04:48] <Howitzer> what do i have to do now?
[04:48] <Frafra> CarlFK: files
[04:48] <Howitzer> restart X?
[04:48] <dark> mp_: lol
[04:49] <Howitzer> ?
[04:49] <TokenBad> hondje, doing the killall eds worked great
[04:49] <TokenBad> thanks
[04:49] <Howitzer> anyone
[04:49] <hondje> Howitzer: It 'should' be in sessions menu in gdm
[04:49] <hondje> TokenBad: glad to hear it :)
[04:49] <Howitzer> ehh
[04:49] <CarlFK> Frafra - wow, you are 2 steps ahead of me - I didn't even know any phones supported that
[04:49] <TokenBad> yeah got sound in game now
[04:49] <hondje> TokenBad: you want to be lazy
[04:49] <swarm> I have found that kernel for amd64-k8 coming with Ubuntu Hoary 5.04 isn't compiled for preemption. That could be the reason for input devices loss of interactivity during heavy /dev/hda I/O activities?
[04:49] <Howitzer> where the hell is my sessions menu in my gdm(?)
[04:49] <Howitzer> :/
[04:49] <Howitzer> oooooh
[04:49] <hondje> wait, n/m
[04:49] <Stino-> where can i find the file ifcfg-eth0, i need to use ip-aliassing
[04:49] <Howitzer> my login screen?
[04:50] <hondje> Howitzer: yeah, gdm
[04:50] <Howitzer> okay
[04:50] <TokenBad> no I was looking at websites trying to find info..but it didn't say stuff like that..it just was saying stuff like edit this conf file..
[04:50] <Howitzer> for waht does gdm stand?
[04:50] <HawkeVIPER> Stino-, /etc/network
[04:50] <TokenBad> and then log out and log back in
[04:50] <TokenBad> blah blah blah..
[04:50] <hondje> Howitzer: gnome desktop manager
[04:50] <Howitzer> okay
[04:50] <TokenBad> I did all that and it still wasn't working
[04:50] <Howitzer> bye bye
[04:50] <Stino-> HawkeVIPER: there's nothing like that in there actually
[04:50] <TokenBad> but none of the sites I went to said anything about killall
[04:51] <Stino-> HawkeVIPER might that be cause i use vmware
[04:51] <hondje> TokenBad: That's why I'm paid the big bucks ;-)
[04:51] <HawkeVIPER> you using vmware dhcp or static?
[04:52] <Stino-> HawkeVIPER: DHCP, should it be static?
[04:52] <hondje> hehe, that's funny
[04:52] <geetergod> Ok, i'll give money to whoever can help me get my sound working haha
[04:53] <hondje> not because it's a bad question, but because the first D means 'dynamic' :-)
[04:53] <TokenBad> hondje, heheh...you have advantage of been using ubuntu a while to..this is my 3rd day of using it
[04:53] <TokenBad> heheh
[04:54] <hondje> TokenBad: so I got 4.999 years on ya
[04:54] <TokenBad> hahahah
[04:54] <hondje> slight advantage ;-)
[04:54] <TokenBad> yeah I would say that
[04:54] <hondje> oh, and 2 years as a cedega subscriber
[04:54] <Ng> TokenBad: hopefully the first three of many :)
[04:54] <geetergod> "ALSA device "default" is already in use by another program." anyone help me with this?
[04:55] <HawkeVIPER> kill esd
[04:55] <geetergod> killall esd gives me "esd: no process killed
[04:55] <geetergod> "
[04:56] <TokenBad> yeah I like it..
[04:56] <hondje> geetergod: lsof | grep alsa
[04:56] <TokenBad> I tried linspire...got fed up with quick
[04:56] <geetergod> hondje, what'd that do?
[04:56] <TokenBad> then tried mandriva
[04:56] <TokenBad> and I left it on for a whole 30 mins
[04:56] <TokenBad> and took it off
[04:56] <hondje> geetergod: showed you everything running with alsa in its name, or being used by it, etc
[04:56] <TokenBad> then tried ubuntu
[04:56] <hondje> 'list open files'
[04:56] <geetergod> oooh
[04:57] <geetergod> mixer_app 7467  geetergod  mem       REG        3,1   89464   1197699 /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.8/libgstalsa.so
[04:57] <geetergod> gaim      7756  geetergod  mem       REG        3,1   10716   1227000 /usr/lib/ao/plugins-2/libalsa09.so
[04:57] <geetergod> is that normal?
[04:57] <hondje> geetergod: kill 7467
[04:57] <jeld> hello all
[04:57] <Rockett17> anyone know the command to uninstall the new ati drivers?
[04:57] <jeld> is the repository down?
[04:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi
[04:57] <Kano_Ubuntu> Rockett17, suer
[04:57] <lsuactiafner> kill -9 7467
[04:57] <Kano_Ubuntu> !ati
[04:57] <ubotu> Kano_Ubuntu: Wish i knew
[04:57] <Kano_Ubuntu> hmm
[04:57] <hondje> -9 is so messy
[04:57] <Kano_Ubuntu> whats up with sonya
[04:58] <lsuactiafner> its messy?
[04:58] <Kano_Ubuntu> ok, wrong channel ;)
[04:58] <lsuactiafner> teh why?
[04:58] <geetergod> hondje, i still have the same problem
[04:58] <Rockett17> i cant get my x to start now :(
[04:58] <geetergod> gaim      7756  geetergod  mem       REG        3,1   10716   1227000 /usr/lib/ao/plugins-2/libalsa09.so
[04:58] <geetergod> thats what i have left
[04:58] <HawkeVIPER> ah
[04:59] <HawkeVIPER> gaim
[04:59] <HawkeVIPER> disable gaim sounds for th etime being
[04:59] <HawkeVIPER> then read the howto on getting ESD implemented into ALSA
[04:59] <geetergod> k
[04:59] <geetergod> they are
[04:59] <lsuactiafner> if he kills gaim then he d/c from irc lol
[04:59] <HawkeVIPER> lol
[04:59] <lsuactiafner> stupid gaim
[04:59] <geetergod> no i dont
[04:59] <geetergod> i just quit gaim
[04:59] <lsuactiafner> 1.3.1 is out
[04:59] <HawkeVIPER> geetergod, restart gaim and use xchat
[04:59] <HawkeVIPER> =)
[04:59] <jeld> anyone knows if the repository is ok? I get MD5 mismatch errors
[04:59] <lsuactiafner> so i ponder what version is in apt
[05:00] <geetergod> HawkeVIPER, im in xchat
[05:00] <CarlFK> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969 shows 2 breezy installs, different sizes - Is that a problem shomeone should know about?
[05:00] <HawkeVIPER> lsuactiafner, probably some back patched crap like with firefox
[05:00] <Rockett17> q
[05:00] <HawkeVIPER> have they fixed that cockup yet?
[05:00] <HawkeVIPER> ah, obviously not... i apt-get updated last night, and firefox is still 1.02
[05:00] <HawkeVIPER> ghey
[05:01] <Ng> 1.0.4 won't be going into hoary
[05:01] <Ng> once a stable release is out it only gets security and serious bug fixes
[05:01] <jeff25> HawkeVIPER: 1.04 is on backports
[05:01] <ana150> nice, my pc got crashed
[05:01] <jeld> HawkeVIPER, use the useragent Luke! :)
[05:01] <HawkeVIPER> jeff25, does it display 1.04?
[05:01] <slept> I got a problem with the ubuntu debian-installer
[05:01] <HawkeVIPER> jeld, I am =)
[05:01] <lsuactiafner> HawkeVIPER : just get firefox from mozilla
[05:01] <jeff25> HawkeVIPER: no you have to change the version
[05:02] <Ng> lsuactiafner: sticking with using packages from apt is always a good plan ;)
[05:02] <lsuactiafner> Ng  : its not.
[05:02] <hondje> Ng: You missed the orgy of marillat here earlier, before I left work
[05:02] <ana150> hmm, btw does anyone know why does firefox load more than "konqueor" or something like that it was
[05:02] <Howitzer> Oehhh
[05:02] <Ng> hondje: erk, sounds fun ;)
[05:02] <HawkeVIPER> Ng, I prefer to compile the majority of stuff myself.  just can't be assed with FF
[05:02] <jeld> anyone knows about the state of us.archive.ubuntu.com?
[05:02] <geetergod> any other tips for my sound?
[05:02] <lsuactiafner> mplayer, gaim and firefox i will compile myself since the maintainers dont update to new releases
[05:02] <jeff25> HawkeVIPER: just change the version and you're good to go
[05:02] <HawkeVIPER> ana150, because firefox was designed for winblows?
[05:02] <Ng> lsuactiafner: why?
[05:02] <Howitzer> FluxBox is really smooth :/
[05:02] <Seveas> jeld, it gives md5sum errors sometime
[05:02] <HawkeVIPER> jeff25, I will, on an off day
[05:02] <HawkeVIPER> lol
[05:02] <HawkeVIPER> too busy
[05:02] <jeld> Seveas, yup
[05:03] <jeff25> HawkeVIPER: it takes 2 seconds
[05:03] <lsuactiafner> export CFLAGS="-march=athlon-4 -O3 -pipe"
[05:03] <HawkeVIPER> jeff25, 2 seconds I don't have
[05:03] <Ng> lsuactiafner: FF 1.0.4 is pretty much identical to the 1.0.2 + fixes version that's in hoary
[05:03] <jeld> Seveas, is it gonna get fixed?
[05:03] <lsuactiafner> and packages compile every possible option in
[05:03] <jeff25> HawkeVIPER: yeah uh huh
[05:03] <lsuactiafner> i dont need it
[05:03] <HawkeVIPER> I'm too busy fixing other people's shit to fix my own
[05:03] <jeff25> HawkeVIPER: you should just run windows then
[05:03] <hondje> but I make them into debs and all that
[05:03] <HawkeVIPER> jeff25, um... no
[05:03] <lsuactiafner> and the mozzila binary works properly.. i trust the ppl who wrote the software to compile it
[05:03] <Seveas> jeld, there's an archive update in progress, so this will resolve automagically later..
[05:03] <Ng> hondje: an orgy of marillat, that sounds fun ;(
[05:04] <Howitzer> can i have links on my desktop in FluxBox?
[05:04] <HawkeVIPER> Howitzer, yes
[05:04] <HawkeVIPER> get fbdesk
[05:04] <Howitzer> or in the toolbar(a la Gnome)
[05:04] <hondje> Ng: I take partial blame, me and someone else were talking about my transcode .deb I made
[05:04] <jeld> Seveas, cool, thanx
[05:04] <Howitzer> i thought i apt-get 'ted it
[05:04] <HawkeVIPER> you need to start it
[05:04] <hondje> inspiration :)_
[05:04] <ana150> HawkeVIPER: okey, then the question is, why is firefox so great with linux, if it's even slower than other browsers?
[05:04] <Howitzer> doesn't it start on its own?
[05:04] <HawkeVIPER> ana150, because it has compatibility?
[05:04] <Howitzer> i love FF
[05:05] <hondje> it's way to slow
[05:05] <Howitzer> lol
[05:05] <HawkeVIPER> hondje, I agree
[05:05] <Howitzer> it isn't
[05:05] <Howitzer> oky
[05:05] <hondje> especially ubuntu's build, it's aweful
[05:05] <ana150> i like firefox with windows, but with linux i hate it
[05:05] <Seveas> ana150, slow dns lookups?
[05:05] <Ng> throw more CPU at the problem, it's nippy enough on a 2ghz amd64 ;)
[05:05] <ana150> i don't know but it sure is heavy
[05:05] <jeff25> ana150: well there is always lynx
[05:05] <HawkeVIPER> Howitzer, modify the fb exec script in .fluxbox/ to call fbdesk/fbsetbg/etc
[05:05] <HawkeVIPER> then it'll autostart
[05:05] <ana150> jeff25: i think links2 does better
[05:05] <HawkeVIPER> there's a howto floating around somewhere on the fb site
[05:05] <Howitzer> i admit, it is really slow on a 200mghz but even then i thought it was worth to wait 30 secs
[05:05] <hondje> I got cpu, I got memory...
[05:05] <jeff25> ana150: heh
[05:05] <ana150> :D
[05:05] <hondje> it just renders large pages poorly
[05:06] <ana150> links can handle frames and tables better than lynx imo
[05:06] <Howitzer> weird
[05:06] <Seveas> ana150, if 'looking up foo.bar.com' takes a long time try this:
[05:06] <Seveas> ana150: Open firefox and go to about:config. Now search for network.dns.disableIPV6 and set that value to true. Restart Firefox to see the effect.
[05:06] <hondje> I timed it the other day, it took 25 seconds to unfreeze and stop stealing cpu to render the apple-x86 thread on /.
[05:06] <Ng> hondje: I was using epiphany before and galeon before that and I think I'm going in the right direction ;)
[05:06] <Jormundgand> Howitzer: catenating SI modifiers is bad form. "megagigahertz" should be "terahertz". ;)
[05:06] <Howitzer> i can't find it anywhere in aps/tools
[05:06] <slept> its the warthy install which seems to have a bug - it hangs at libblkid1-udeb . I tryed with differnet cd's .
[05:06] <Howitzer> Oo
[05:06] <ana150> Seveas: okey i'll try that :)
[05:07] <slept> *installer*
[05:07] <mp_> dark: hmm.. same issue (invalid driver) akthough i use the original driver from the CD 8which i managed to find, since all dlinks' sites appear to have the wrong drivers!!)
[05:07] <Jormundgand> "Howitzer: i admit, it is really slow on a 200mghz but"
[05:07] <Howitzer> ooh
[05:07] <Howitzer> hmm
[05:07] <Howitzer> to be honest
[05:07] <Jormundgand> In fact, that would be 2 petahertz.
[05:07] <hondje> FF isn't that bad, but on ubuntu it's awful
[05:07] <Howitzer> wtf
[05:07] <Howitzer> it isn't :x
[05:08] <hondje> I get twice the performance from running FF on a box half as fast, through ssh -X, as I do from this one
[05:08] <Jormundgand> And I want to know A) how hot a 200PHz processor runs B) how much it costs. :)
[05:08] <Howitzer> FireFox just started and loaded 6 of my homepages in -1sec
[05:08] <hondje> maybe I got a bum pkg, then :-?
[05:08] <Howitzer> indeed
[05:08] <Howitzer> btw
[05:08] <Howitzer> i have the shittitest provider ever
[05:08] <Howitzer> so don't say its my i-net =:D
[05:09] <hondje> hehe
[05:09] <Seveas> hondje, usually it's the ipv6 dns crap that cause this...
[05:09] <ana150> Seveas: yeah, that really did work :), but is there something to speed up firefox starting?
[05:09] <hondje> Seveas: long disabled
[05:09] <Seveas> ana150, ENOIDEA
[05:09] <Seveas> hondje, hmm, ok :)
[05:09] <hondje> it revs at max cpu for a good 10 seconds on many large pages...
[05:09] <hondje> perhaps I should --reinstall
[05:09] <philipp_> Hi everybody I have a problem with ubuntu linux[hoary]  and my wlan card senao nl-2511 CD PLUS EXT2 [Prism 2 Chipset] 
[05:09] <Seveas> hondje, can you give me an exaple url?
[05:10] <Howitzer> only,  wish i could get the toolbar show up ALWAYS, so it can't get covered if i rune something
[05:10] <Howitzer> yeah
[05:10] <Howitzer> it could also be the server
[05:10] <philipp_> the internet is working but iwlist eth2 scan gives me scanning is not supported by this device
[05:10] <lsuactiafner> philipp_ : slutty mode prolly not.. promiscious mode
[05:10] <Seveas> eth2
[05:10] <Seveas> you have 3 cards??
[05:10] <lsuactiafner> i got 3 also lol
[05:11] <lsuactiafner> you need to bridge em
[05:11] <philipp_> lsuactiafner: what does this mean? sorry my english is not so good
[05:11] <lsuactiafner> ana150 : prelink
[05:11] <HawkeVIPER> Howitzer: right click on the toolbar
[05:11] <hondje> Seveas: http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/06/06/1752234&tid=118&tid=179&tid=3
[05:11] <HawkeVIPER> there's an option in the config to set on top
[05:11] <lsuactiafner> philipp_ : means your card refused to be a whore and to accept any packet passing by...  i think
[05:11] <spiderworm> anybody here play nexuiz?
[05:12] <Ng> hondje: that took about 6 seconds from the tab appearing to the spinner stopping and the page being ready
[05:12] <lsuactiafner> prelink rocks
[05:12] <Ng> maybe 7
[05:12] <Seveas> hondje, lol
[05:12] <lsuactiafner> Ng : thats fast
[05:12] <Howitzer> took me 4secs
[05:12] <Seveas> that just takes an hour to load
[05:12] <lsuactiafner> i wait more than a minute
[05:12] <ana150> hmm
[05:12] <lsuactiafner> on a 5k/s dailu
[05:12] <hondje> It's still going for me
[05:12] <Howitzer> lol
[05:12] <Ng> ouch
[05:12] <Seveas> since it's big
[05:12] <hondje> I took a screenshot, you can see hte borkage
[05:12] <ana150> any ideas how to set up wlan?
[05:12] <hondje> still going
[05:12] <Howitzer> hondje, specs? :D
[05:12] <lsuactiafner> btw adblock, sessionsaver and downloadsort extention plugins for firefox rock
[05:12] <dadan> whats basicly deferent betwen kubuntu and ubuntu
[05:13] <Seveas> hondje, but it loaded on my machine in < 5 seconds
[05:13] <hondje> 2.7GHz p4, 768 ram, nvidia card
[05:13] <Howitzer> you must have a 1600baud modem and a p133 =D
[05:13] <hondje> still going
[05:13] <Seveas> dadan, the default set of installed packages
[05:13] <Howitzer> lol
[05:13] <philipp_> lsuactiafner: I dont want to read every packet passing by but to see the wlans in range of my card, at the moment im not able to use the network-manager of ubuntu
[05:13] <dadan> :P
[05:13] <Howitzer> serious? :/
[05:13] <hondje> yeah
[05:13] <Howitzer> i have 256mb ram
[05:13] <Seveas> dadan, kubuntu by default installs KDE, ubuntu gnome
[05:13] <Ng> apart from disabling ipv6 the other performance thing I did to firefox was set nglayout.initialpaint.delay to 0 so it starts dynamic layout as soon as it receives some data
[05:13] <philipp_> i have to configure my card using iwconfig
[05:13] <lsuactiafner> Howitzer : p166 and a 45k baud connection atm
[05:13] <Rockett17> can someone post the generic xorg.conf for ubuntu so I can wget it and copy over my fucked up one
[05:13] <hondje> still not there
[05:13] <Howitzer> lol
[05:13] <Ng> hondje: that's pretty shocking ;)
[05:13] <Howitzer> 56kbyte?
[05:14] <Seveas> Rockett17, just do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:14] <Ng> hondje: try moving your profile out the way and reinstalling ;)
[05:14] <philipp_> lsuactiafner: and the network applet is also not working
[05:14] <lsuactiafner> yeh, but it maxes @ 5k/s
[05:14] <Howitzer> hondje, re-install Ubuntu :x
[05:14] <hondje> just now done
[05:14] <Howitzer> lol
[05:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> rockett17, it usualy makes a backup
[05:14] <lsuactiafner> Ng : prelink firefox
[05:14] <Howitzer> 17:11 you started
[05:14] <slept> Rockett17, you can overwrite it with md5sum look at top of the file (xorg.conf)
[05:15] <Ng> lsuactiafner: I have it running all the time, there's no need :)
[05:15] <lsuactiafner> same
[05:15] <lsuactiafner> browser stays open along with uptime
[05:15] <lsuactiafner> heh
[05:15] <Ng> prelinking only really improves the time it takes to start an application afaik
[05:15] <lsuactiafner> but living in a country where electricity goes out....
[05:15] <ana150> what was the kpgd command? :D i forgot it
[05:15] <lsuactiafner> Ng : yeh
[05:15] <hondje> Ng: here's the freaky part
[05:16] <Howitzer> argh
[05:16] <ana150> "kpgd" some thing like that what you use example to reconfigure locales
[05:16] <hondje> I have 3 desktops...I run firefox in the middle, terms and stuff in the left, and evolution/work stuff in the right
[05:16] <anirz_> when linux was started???
[05:16] <slept> should I file a bugreport for the warty installer ? Or isn't tat of intrest anymore, the hoary-installer works fine with that hardware .
[05:16] <Howitzer> the FluxBox toolbar keeps getting covered by maximized programs :x
[05:16] <Ng> ana150: "dpkg-reconfigure locales" maybe?
[05:16] <hondje> if I go from one to the firefox one, all you get is a frame, here's a pic
[05:16] <philipp_> lsuactiafner: iwconfig says that my card is in Mode:Ad-Hoc is that wrong?
[05:16] <hondje> http://www.hondje.net/~hondje/Screenshot.png
[05:16] <Ng> erk
[05:17] <lsuactiafner> man iwconfig
[05:17] <ana150> Ng: thanks much, ill have to write it down, so i won't forget that dpkg again
[05:17] <ana150> :D
[05:17] <hondje> see the CPU meter in the bottom right jump and pin to the top? :(
[05:17] <lsuactiafner> i got no idea, i got a v90 modem made in 1998
[05:17] <Ng> ana150: I hope that's the one you meant ;)
[05:17] <Howitzer> rofl
[05:17] <lsuactiafner>  17:12:59 up 1 day,  5:09, 17 users,  load average: 6.59, 6.76, 6.21
[05:17] <anirz_> how do i move to another room???
[05:17] <lsuactiafner> heh
[05:17] <philipp_> lsuactiafner: ok thank you anyway
[05:17] <lsuactiafner> nice -n -20 ripping a dvd
[05:17] <jeroen_> anirz_, /join #blabla
[05:17] <lsuactiafner> on a 3200+ amd64
[05:18] <Ng> hondje: how about with a fresh firefox profile?
[05:18] <hondje> So those app in that pic aren't on that desktop, they're on another, and it's all borked will FF is loading :-/
[05:18] <Razor-X> hmmm, why don't BitTorrent clients other than Azureus receive any speed on my machine?
[05:18] <anirz_> thankx jeroen_
[05:18] <dbernar1> woohoo, I am back in Linux!:)
[05:18] <hondje> Ng: same
[05:18] <Howitzer> Aaaaargh
[05:18] <Razor-X> hondje: that's why you don't use Firefox ;)
[05:18] <hondje> :)
[05:18] <Ng> hondje: hmm. when you get that frame, does it just sit there for ages then display?
[05:18] <anirz_> anyone can tell me how do i compile XMMS?
[05:18] <hondje> yeah, while CPU stays at 100
[05:19] <Razor-X> Azureus won't work, but it seems, nothing else will
[05:19] <Howitzer> how do i set it so that the FluxBox toolbar doesn't disappear when i put a program in maximized
[05:19] <Seveas> anirz_, why doy ou want to compile it?
[05:19] <fabian> Seveas, graphic works fine!
[05:19] <Razor-X> anirz_: it's probably like any other compile, as long as you have the libs
[05:19] <Seveas> fabian, nice :)
[05:19] <Thorrn4> hello HappyFool!! since I reloaded the kernel, GRUB works faster and 2 me, the applications load faster; thank you
[05:19] <lsuactiafner> if your firefox is giving shit disable java
[05:19] <lsuactiafner> also
[05:19] <Thorrn4> hello all
[05:19] <lsuactiafner> ummm
[05:19] <Ng> hondje: very bizarre
[05:19] <anirz_> Seveas, i am not getting the sound from XMMS
[05:19] <fabian> Seveas, I can't stop playing chromium! :D
[05:19] <lsuactiafner> dont open 400 tabs
[05:19] <Ng> hondje: might be worth reporting that as a bug, that is definitely not supposed to happen ;)
[05:19] <Seveas> anirz_, set the sound output plugin to esound then....
[05:19] <lsuactiafner> and allocate it enough ram
[05:20] <hondje> I thought it was :)
[05:20] <jeroen_> lsuactiafner, Fx sometimes also has problems with gplflash. That's a problem here, anyway
[05:20] <Ng> hondje: hehe
[05:20] <anirz_> what is the command for compile?
[05:20] <Seveas> anirz_, you do not need to compile it
[05:20] <lsuactiafner> vm.overcommit_memory = 1
[05:20] <philipp_> does anyone know about problems with the orinoco wlan driver if i do iwlist eth2 scanning i get eth2      Interface doesn't support scanning : Operation not supported
[05:20] <lsuactiafner> sysctl -e vm.overcommit_memory = 1
[05:20] <hondje> hence my omfg ubuntofirefoxrt3hs8xxx
[05:20] <Seveas> anirz_, set the sound output plugin to esound then.... <-- do that and do not compile it
[05:20] <Seveas> compiling it yourself will not solve the problem
[05:20] <muehlbucks> what's the best place for periodic news about ubuntu?  i guess i'm hoping for something like the gentoo weekly newsletter
[05:20] <Seveas> muehlbucks, ubuntu-traffic
[05:21] <fabian> can anyone explain how chromium works? how can I win? I alway get shot!
[05:21] <anirz_> Seveas, let me try
[05:21] <Ng> hondje: if I flip to another desktop then back to that apple story there is a very short pretty small CPU blip and nothing else.
[05:21] <hondje> Ng: that one stays that way
[05:21] <Seveas> muehlbucks, search for ubuntu-traffic on the ubuntu website
[05:21] <hondje> lookiing at apps from before, not repainting
[05:21] <muehlbucks> Seveas: found it, sweet - thanks
[05:21] <anirz_> Seveas,  can u guide me?
[05:21] <ana150> hey anyone, how to start wlan set-up? i have added d-link's pci card and what next?
[05:22] <Varanger> crimsun: are you here?
[05:22] <hondje> Ng: thanks for letting me rant :)
[05:22] <Ng> hondje: np ;)
[05:22] <Ng> finding bugs is good :)
[05:22] <hondje> couldn't ever track it tough
[05:22] <Seveas> anirz_, open the xmms preferences with ctrl+p
[05:22] <hondje> nothing odd on strace, and I'm not a programmer :-/
[05:22] <anirz_> Seveas, there is Audoi I/O plugin
[05:22] <Seveas> look for lugins -> output plugins
[05:23] <Ng> I found a great one last night, sloppy focus really confuses nautilus when you rename some files. it's been bugging me for ages and I finally figured out what it was :)
[05:23] <anirz_> is that the one??
[05:23] <Seveas> and set it to Esound
[05:23] <Ng> hondje: if you make a bug report then the developers will guide you through gathering information if they need it :)
[05:23] <hondje> Ng: true
[05:23] <Ng> hondje: assuming it hasn't been reported already :)
[05:23] <Seveas> anirz_, i cannot guide you exactly, since i use beep-media-player instead of xmms (it's a better looking gtk2 port of xmms)
[05:23] <hondje> then again, they ignored my nautilus bug
[05:23] <hondje> :)
[05:24] <anirz_> Seveas, beep? can i download it?
[05:24] <Seveas> anirz_, sudo aptitude install beep-media-player
[05:24] <anirz_> Seveas,  i cant find esound here
[05:24] <hornsby> why don't you guys use amarok ? it rocks :)
[05:24] <Ng> hondje: doh ;)
[05:24] <anirz_> Seveas, which distro are you using???
[05:24] <Seveas> hornsby, amarok leads to KDE, KDE leads to fear, fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering
[05:25] <Seveas> anirz_, ubuntu of course :)
[05:25] <ana150> :D
[05:25] <hornsby> Seveas, more drama ?? :D lol
[05:25] <Seveas> ;)
[05:25] <ana150> Seveas: that's so true!
[05:25] <hornsby> Seveas, hey guys, I'm on KDE, and I dont have any trouble with it
[05:25] <anirz_> Seveas, :D i use sudo apt-get to install.. is it the same?
[05:26] <Seveas> hornsby, it's a matter of taste
[05:26] <hornsby> true
[05:26] <Seveas> anirz_, it's equivalent
[05:26] <anirz_> Seveas, okay :)
[05:26] <hornsby> anyway :)
[05:26] <hornsby> Seveas, you'r good poet :D
[05:26] <anirz_> hornsby, whats so special about amarock?
[05:26] <anacron> anirz_: if you don't even know that, you should read ubuntuguide.org, that helps a lot
[05:26] <Seveas> Amarok is quite a nice media player
[05:27] <hornsby> it is
[05:27] <Seveas> anacron, ubuntuguide sucks
[05:27] <anacron> anirz_: not amarok, i mean that sudo thing
[05:27] <Seveas> it contains crappy information
[05:27] <anacron> well it has helped me more than anyone in this channel
[05:27] <anirz_> anacron i am in the learning process.. so plz let me learn...:D.. no hard feeling
[05:27] <Seveas> anacron, then i hope you have not messed up too much :)
[05:27] <NicP> ubuntu guide has been really helpful to me
[05:27] <Varanger> ppl, do you remember a page where paste the contents of screen to avoid "flood"
[05:28] <Varanger> ?
[05:28] <Seveas> Varanger, ubuntu.pastebin.com
[05:28] <hornsby> anirz_, again, it's a matter of taste I guess but it's quite nice in general
[05:28] <Varanger> Seveas: you rule! thanx
[05:28] <anacron> anirz_: it's not that it's bad to ask thosekind of things, but you can learn those so easy if you just go to there
[05:28] <anirz_> hornsby, as u guys are saying... i better try it
[05:28] <anacron> easily*
[05:28] <hornsby> anirz_, right
[05:29] <Ng> the stuff on ubuntuguide should all be in the proper ubuntu wiki really imho
[05:29] <Seveas> Ng, it is, but better
[05:29] <anirz_> anacorn sometimes u get something so suddenly that u want to know it at that moment.. learning the OS is not reading book.. let it be practical
[05:29] <radddx> hey all
[05:29] <anacron> amarok's only nice feature is that thing which pop-ups at the top screen showing current track
[05:29] <Ng> Seveas: then the ubuntuguide people should be working on the wiki instead of their own site :/
[05:29] <NicP> anacron: i agree
[05:30] <NicP> ng: good point
[05:30] <Seveas> Ng, the ubuntuguide person isn't cooperative
[05:30] <hornsby> anacron, that's your point of view again
[05:30] <Ng> simply because fewer doc sites is better
[05:30] <kig_> why nautilus does not use standart unix case-sensitive sorting rules ? (eg. directory 'Mamba' apears later than directory 'auto')
[05:30] <anacron> we'll usually all opinions are :)
[05:30] <anacron> well*
[05:30] <hornsby> right
[05:30] <anirz_> hornsby, so it is "amarok" right
[05:30] <anacron> this is really bad fingers day
[05:30] <Seveas> kig_, you can make it do that
[05:31] <hornsby> anirz_, correct
[05:31] <anirz_> okay
[05:31] <anacron> hey anyone, what about my wlan?
[05:31] <kig_> Seveas: can you tell me how ?
[05:31] <radddx> I'm having trouble getting Gnome or Xorg to work properly. I'm using a Radeon 9250 with a 1600x1200 DVI lcd and the screen is just blank. Originally it was corrupted when I used the 'ati' driver, now using the 'fglrx' driver the screen is just black/blank. Can anyone suggest a fix?
[05:31] <slept> radddx, did you install linux-restricted-modules ?
[05:31] <radddx> no
[05:32] <radddx> will that help?
[05:32] <anirz_> slept, is it dangerous to install linux-restricted mod?
[05:32] <Ng> radddx: you want to do the ati section of http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:32] <reka> Ng: imho, i agree with Seveas about the wiki being better... problems with ubguide: [1]  it puts backports in it's sample sources.list [2]  lack of explanation for *many* of the topics e.g. see the configure sound properly one.
[05:32] <anacron> radddx: check out dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg also, that might help
[05:32] <Seveas> kig_, sorry, i thought you could, but apparently i'm wrong
[05:33] <anacron> ->
[05:33] <Seveas> reka, indeed, there are NO explanations at all
[05:33] <Seveas> and a lot of instructions are utter crap
[05:33] <Seveas> the java instructions being an excellent example of crap
[05:33] <radddx> anacron: yep already tried that but it didn't fix it
[05:33] <Ng> if people want to run their own sites that is up to them really, however unfortunate it is
[05:33] <slept> radddx, you need a kernel module you can find out your kernel version with uname -r and then install the right resrticted modules .
[05:33] <kig_> Seveas, no problem. Maybe that stuff cannot be changed, because ubuntu has very heavily modified nautilus :-)
[05:33] <radddx> Ng: thanks, I'll try those instructions
[05:34] <reka> Seveas: i wouldn't say it's useless, but it definitely could be improved... it *is* unofficial though.
[05:34] <b1rkoff> hiya
[05:34] <radddx> where would I go about finding instructions on which ones I need?
[05:34] <anirz_> what is the meaning of "sudo"??
[05:34] <Seveas> anirz_: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[05:34] <slept> anirz_, the restricted modules are just not free I think
[05:34] <HawkeVIPER> superuser do
[05:35] <hornsby> anirz_, using root right
[05:35] <HawkeVIPER> it's a means of executing commands as root
[05:35] <HawkeVIPER> or
[05:35] <HawkeVIPER> for that matter
[05:35] <HawkeVIPER> any user you specify
[05:37] <Seveas> bon appetit!
[05:37] <anirz_> hornsby, yup
[05:37] <anirz_> hornsby, while installing its asking for the ubuntu cd..strange..???
[05:37] <destiny> not really strange, sorry just got here, what are you installing?
[05:37] <reka> slept: radddx only needs to install a restricted module if he is using the ati.com driver.  if he follows Ng's link, he won't need to install anything other than the xorg driver.
[05:37] <Seveas> anirz_, comment out the cd line in /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:38] <Seveas> or use synaptic for that
[05:38] <Ng> anirz_: apt is configured to use the CD by default, you can disable it in synaptic's repositories config, or comment out the first line in /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:38] <Ng> what Seveas said ;)
[05:38] <slept> reka, I  didn't look at that link
[05:39] <radddx> reka: I've tried installing that xorg driver, using apt-get then changing the xorg.conf from ati to fglrx but that gives me a blank screen. Will the 'echo fglrx | sudo tee -a /etc/modules' fix that problem? that's the only step that I didn't do. Also, I've tried using the fglrxconfig utility but that did not fix anything either.
[05:40] <Seveas> radddx, yes, that will solve your problem
[05:40] <anirz_> Seveas, Ng how do i commenet out..?? just delete it??
[05:40] <reka> radddx: yes, you need to load the fglrx module
[05:40] <Seveas> and if you do not want to restart, type the following command too:
[05:40] <Seveas> sudo modprobe fglrx
[05:40] <Ng> anirz_: put a # in front of the whole line
[05:40] <Seveas> anirz_, that, or put a # before it
[05:40] <Seveas> like: #deb [cdrom etc...
[05:40] <anirz_> thankx
[05:40] <Ng> jinx! ;)
[05:40] <radddx> ok, thanks, I'll reboot and change the hdds over, hopefully be back in ubuntu =)
[05:41] <radddx> bye
[05:41] <Ng> anirz_: you'll need to tell synaptic to reload the package lists, or run "sudo apt-get update", then it won't ask for the CD again
[05:41] <anirz_> Seveas, it says cant open file to write..??/
[05:41] <reka> slept: no worries.
[05:41] <Seveas> anirz_, edit it as root
[05:41] <anirz_> okay
[05:41] <Seveas> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:42] <anirz_> Seveas, how do i do that?
[05:42] <anirz_> do i have to log in as root?
[05:42] <destiny> use the command he just typed
[05:42] <Ng> erk
[05:42] <anirz_> okay
[05:42] <Seveas> anirz_, type the command i gave you
[05:42] <Ng> Seveas: doing that kind of thing is a path to pain ime
[05:42] <Seveas> Ng, what kind of thing..?
[05:42] <Ng> Seveas: running graphical things with sudo, you can end up with stuff in your home directory chowned to root
[05:42] <anirz_> yup worked..
[05:43] <Seveas> Ng, i know. But gedit is safe
[05:43] <destiny> anirz_ then, once you have a # in front of the  cd line, save, close gedit, and do a sudo aptitude update
[05:43] <Ng> Seveas: yeah, that's fair enough, I'm just thinking it would be wise to encourage people to use the root terminal for that kind of thing, so they don't try it with something that isn't safe and break things ;)
[05:44] <ups> is there any way to burn a 800MB CD in ubuntu? using n-c-b with overburn enabled didnt work
[05:44] <anirz_> destiny, yes i have done it
[05:44] <anirz_> thankx
[05:44] <Seveas> Ng, newbies and terminal-based editors is not the best combination too :)
[05:44] <Ng> Seveas: hehe, this is very true ;)
[05:44] <destiny> ok, test if it works better now
[05:44] <Seveas> Ng, and imnsho root terminals are more evil than this :)
[05:44] <anirz_> Seveas, doesnot matter it i crash the system.....
[05:44] <anirz_> :D
[05:45] <Ng> Seveas: I mean just using the root terminal to run gedit, really
[05:45] <anirz_> *if i
[05:45] <Seveas> Ng, that is not possible
[05:45] <Seveas> Ng, the X server will not allow that
[05:46] <Stew2> Heyo, I've got a guy's machine, his name is dilkes, and I'm showing him how to setup Ubuntu Hoary. I've got the ISO on a RW CDrom, we booted up.. He's got 3 hard drives, the first has windows 98, the second two are blank, and are 850 megs a piece. Can I use LVM to put the second two together, thereby making one large 1.6 gig hard drive?
[05:46] <anirz_> Seveas, what are the windows managers that are available... KDE,GNOME Xfce .. and???
[05:46] <Seveas> Stew2, that is possible
[05:46] <Ng> Seveas: hmm. mine does, but I have quite a custom config. nevermind then ;)
[05:46] <Seveas> anirz_, fluxbox, e16 etc..
[05:47] <anirz_> okay
[05:47] <apollo2011> I am trying to compile WineX from source and I installed ok following the instructions at http://frankscorner.org/index.php?p=cedegacvs and used the .wine directory available on the site but now I get the below error when I try to run a downloaded version of dcom98.exe:
[05:47] <apollo2011> > ksut@Playroom1-Ubuntu:~/Downloads$ wine dcom98.exe
[05:47] <apollo2011> > wine: chdir to /home/ksut/.wine/wineserver-Playroom1-Ubuntu : No such file or directory
[05:47] <Stew2> seveas: When I tried running LVM from the setup screens, it said there were no partitions available. What type do I have to make the partitions? I read the manual and it says '8e'
[05:47] <destiny> I like how he says one large 1.6 gig drive:)
[05:47] <Stew2> destiny hehe
[05:48] <destiny> nice
[05:48] <destiny> whos here?
[05:48] <Daehlie> big split
[05:48] <destiny> yup totally.
[05:49] <destiny> or we are in a small one:)
[05:49] <destiny> yay, gnome is installed, gonna go try that...
[05:49] <xoz> supernova explosion
[05:50] <ups> there they come :)
[05:50] <Stew2> seveas: Hey, did you get that last one right before the netsplit?yt:fvk_fran-connect PRIVMSG lin :yt:sagan.fvk_fran.net 477 joaopaulo #debian-br :[fvk_fran-info]  why register andridentify?  your IRC nick is how people know you.  http://fvk_fran.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[05:50] <lsuactiafner> anirz_ : its like the force
[05:51] <anirz_> lsuactiafner, go away??
[05:51] <quam> haha
[05:51] <xoz> implosion
[05:51] <Stew2> seveaz I got that far
[05:51] <wdh> braam_, can be a variety of reasons :)
[05:51] <Stew2> seveaz I used the manual partitioner.
[05:51] <wdh> s/braam_/Brad_c
[05:51] <lsuactiafner> ;p;
[05:51] <lsuactiafner> rofl
[05:53] <slept> server split ?
[05:53] <xoz> network split
[05:54] <b1rkoff> yeah why it happens ?
[05:54] <jon273> Why would ruby1.8 not be available with apt?
[05:54] <sandip> Somebody change the topic: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/documentation/faq/root = 404
[05:54] <flankk> netburst
[05:54] <Seveas`> stupid crappy servers...
[05:54] <Seveas`> anirz_, something goes wrong
[05:54] <Seveas`> sandip, i'll check it
[05:54] <Ubuntian> can someone help me on this: i filling the /etc/exports file for NFS, i typed "/home 192.168.0.1(rw)" and when i "sudo exportfs -ra" it says "/home:invalid argument" , what's happening?
[05:54] <jon273> Why would ruby1.8 not be available with apt?
[05:54] <Stew2_> These netsplits are terrible
[05:54] <jon273> in case netsplit moved lats time too quick
[05:54] <anirz_> lsuactiafner, hmm i know that.. but u said its the cause of war... go away go away... all these things.. thats why i got confused
[05:54] <anirz_> ;P
[05:54] <dennis_> hello
[05:55] <jon273> has anybody install ruby?
[05:55] <Stew2_> What format does a partition have to be made with the manual partitioning option in Ubuntu setup so I can combine two partitions together with LVM?
[05:55] <mp_> erhhmm, where is "grub.config" located in ubuntu (not in /etc it seems)????
[05:55] <Ng> Stew2_: have you tried 8e?
[05:55] <Seveas> mp_, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:55] <quam> jon, i tried, because i wanted gnome-art, but it wasn't available
[05:55] <Stew2_> Ng Nope. I just read about it in the manual.
[05:55] <xoz> Ubuntian: /etc/init.d/nfs-<servertype> restart
[05:56] <dennis_> has anyone enabled Wi-Fi in Ubuntu?
[05:56] <Ng> Stew2_: try 8e :)
[05:56] <quam> i have dennis
[05:56] <Seveas> dennis_, these words come to you over wifi :)
[05:56] <Stew2_> It doesn't say anywhere during the setup, so I was trying 'ext3' and other options
[05:56] <Ng> Stew2_: you'll need a /boot partition on one of the disks, that can't be on the LVM
[05:56] <jon273> It isn't available
[05:56] <dennis_> hehe
[05:56] <mp_> Seveas: aha! thx!
[05:56] <anirz_> what i can use as  C,C++ editors/compiler in linux??
[05:56] <jon273> can't it be more specific?
[05:56] <Ubuntian> xoz, server type?
[05:56] <dennis_> I could use some help guys
[05:56] <dennis_> if you have some time
[05:56] <Stew2_> Ng How big does the boot partition need to be?
[05:56] <Ng> Stew2_: I'm not 100% sure it's supported to install like that, but if it is, 83 would be the type to go for
[05:56] <jon273> anirz_, anjuta
[05:56] <rommer> anirz_: gcc
[05:56] <lsuactiafner> anirz_ : apt-get install build-essential
[05:56] <anirz_> jon273, is it a compiler or editor?
[05:56] <destiny> Gnu Compiler Collection
[05:56] <SeamusLP> anirz_:  I just use gedit and gcc ;)
[05:57] <xoz> what nfs are you using in /etc/init.d/ ?
[05:57] <jon273> anirz_, it's an ide. An editor, but it uses gcc to compile
[05:57] <lsuactiafner> and apt-get build-dep package ; before you build a package from source
[05:57] <BoD_SWAT> Anyone in here own a Pioneer DVD drive? (with ubuntu installed?) My computer doesn't recognize the drive... help!  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34516
[05:57] <anirz_> okay jon273 thgankx
[05:57] <Ubuntian> xoz, errr lemme check
[05:57] <Ng> Stew2_: doesn't need to be huge, mine is only using about 10mb, but you want to allow plenty of space for installing other kernels and things, so maybe 50-100mb should do it I would think?
[05:57] <destiny> BoD_SWAT wow, I heard that before, ask bob2 at some point when you catch him, if you dont get help by then.
[05:58] <xoz> Stew2_: 100mb is safe
[05:58] <lsuactiafner> 100mb is way too safe
[05:58] <dennis_> I am using Gateway 4024 laptop, and the built-in Wi-Fi is not recognized
[05:58] <lsuactiafner> thats like 50 kernels
[05:58] <dennis_> but I also have a PCMCIA Netgear cart
[05:58] <dennis_> card*
[05:58] <Stew2_> Ng So I make a partition of /boot of type ext3, 50 mb shall we say, and the rest of the physical hard drive space I make an '8e' partition. The other empty hard drive I make the entire thing '8e', does this sound correct?
[05:58] <BoD_SWAT> destiny, why? Does bob2 have such an drive and a solution? Just in case: does he have an alternate nickname?
[05:58] <Ng> my ubuntu box at work has 26mb in /boot
[05:58] <xoz> 100mb is cheap
[05:58] <quam> dennis, i had to use ndiswrapper to get mine working
[05:59] <dennis_> quam, where can I get more information on this?
[05:59] <Stew2_> xoz The two hard drives in question are 850 megabytes each.
[05:59] <Stew2_> Fairly small.
[05:59] <Ng> Stew2_: if it's going to work, yes, that is how you want it arranged :)
[05:59] <destiny> BoD_SWAT dunno about alternate nickname, he is bob2 here, and in #debian, I think he will know, I believe he was talking about a pioneer dvd drive the other day.
[05:59] <xoz> then 20mb
[05:59] <quam> i think there are two packages available with apt-get, ndiswrapper and ndiswrapper-tools or something similar
[05:59] <lsuactiafner> you dont need a boot partition
[05:59] <anirz_> i guess swap partition depends on the size of the RAM
[05:59] <BoD_SWAT> destiny, by the way. Thanks for the information :-)
[05:59] <Ng> Stew2_: just keep an eye on the /boot, old kernels aren't always removed after upgrades, so it will fill up slowly
[05:59] <lsuactiafner> you need 1 partiion for / and one for swap
[05:59] <xoz> Stew2_: make it 5-mb
[05:59] <xoz> Stew2_: make it 50mb
[06:00] <lsuactiafner> noo he doesnt need a boot partition.......
[06:00] <Stew2_> Do I have to know anything else about setting up the two hard drives to install ubuntu?
[06:00] <Ng> ooh yes, and a swap partition, my bad
[06:00] <destiny> BoD_SWAT that may help, really. welcome.
[06:00] <Stew2_> lsuactiafner, I have two hard drives, that's it, and a bootable Hoary Ubuntu install cd.
[06:01] <dennis_> quam, is your wireless connection encrypted?
[06:01] <quam> no, i was too lazy to turn that on
[06:01] <lsuactiafner> yeh so put a 1G swap on one disk, and make the rest ext2 or 3 and the other disk just a linux native
[06:01] <destiny> stew.........thaqts gonna be a tight install, are you just gonna do a server install, a minimal one?
[06:01] <Stew2_> ng How do I arrange the other partitions within the LVM? One as / exfs3 and the other as /swap?
[06:01] <Ng> lsuactiafner: he wants to install to LVM, so grub needs a seperate /boot to read the kernel from
[06:01] <lsuactiafner> ppl really, either in or out.. stop join flooding.. bastards..
[06:01] <lsuactiafner> jks.
[06:01] <xoz> lsuactiafner: /lastlog Stew2_
[06:01] <lsuactiafner> hmmk
[06:01] <Seveas> lsuactiafner, stop it...
[06:01] <Amaranth> main rotation server died
[06:02] <lsuactiafner> Seveas : what making fun of netsplits?
[06:02] <Ng> Stew2_: no, the swap needs to be a normal partition on one of the disks like the /boot one, sorry, I didn't think of that the first time
[06:02] <BoD_SWAT> ooo.... netsplits/joins :-/\
[06:02] <Seveas> lsuactiafner, yes and creating noise with it...
[06:02] <Ng> Stew2_: how much RAM is in the machine?
[06:02] <Ubuntian> xoz, where can i find the server type i don't see it in /etc/init.d ?
[06:02] <SeamusLP> lsuactiafner yeah man, those bastards are conspiring to ruin our discussions!
[06:02] <Stew2_> Ng lsuactiafner I'll go try it out. Meanwhile I hope the spilts stop
[06:02] <lsuactiafner> rofl
[06:02] <Ubuntian> xoz,  i see NFS but not the type
[06:03] <xoz> Ubuntian: you have to install nfs-<server> to be able to export your home
[06:03] <lsuactiafner> ):
[06:03] <anirz_> stew2_ was pissed off...lol
[06:03] <Ubuntian> xoz, i did
[06:03] <xoz> Ubuntian: /etc/init.d/nfs restart?
[06:03] <Ubuntian> k
[06:04] <jon273> So what do i do if Ruby isn't available?
[06:04] <anirz_> hey guys.. my NTFS partition is mounting but a FAT32 partition is not mounting...
[06:04] <xoz> anirz_: explain more...
[06:04] <Ubuntian> xoz, ok there are two nfs common and nfs kernel do i restart both?
[06:04] <xoz> Ubuntian: pick your choice.
[06:04] <xoz> Ubuntian: only one
[06:05] <anirz_> xoz, i read the wiki page on how to mount MSWindows Partition.. i managed to partition the NTFS partition.. where i have my XP.. but i want to mount a FAT32 partition .. which is not happening
[06:06] <slept> Ubuntian,  /etc/init.d/nfs-user-server restart
[06:06] <lsuactiafner> anirz_ : mount -t vfat /dev/partition /mnt/moun_point
[06:06] <anirz_> lsuactiafner, complicated..
[06:07] <anirz_> explain plz
[06:07] <SeamusLP> anirz_ that's why you have an /etc/fstab to do this for you
[06:07] <slept> Ubuntian , but the server updates automatically after some time , just try to mount it that  should work
[06:07] <lsuactiafner> anirz_ : mount -t vfat /dev/device /mnt/where_you_want_to_mount
[06:07] <lsuactiafner> mkdir /mnt/where_you_want_to_mount
[06:08] <anirz_> lsuactiafner, i have followed as it was mentioned in the wiki page.. i made dir...but somehow its not working.. anyways let me check again
[06:08] <Ubuntian> slept, but it says /home: Invalid argument
[06:08] <anirz_> lsuactiafner, i will ask u again... brb in a minute
[06:09] <xoz> anirz_: check the permission. be root before mount to be sure you have all the power to mount
[06:09] <slept> Ubuntian, nfs= network file system
[06:09] <Ubuntian> i knew that thanks
[06:09] <slept> Ubuntian, mount -t nfs IP:/path /mountpoint
[06:10] <anirz_> xoz whats the command to be root??
[06:10] <xoz> anirz_: su
[06:10] <xoz> or sudo if you configured it
[06:10] <Ng> if he hasn't set a root password, su won't work, surely
[06:10] <xoz> root is the first to be set
[06:11] <Ubuntian> slept, after editing the export file, when i type exportfs -ra it says "/home invalid argument...
[06:11] <anirz_> xoz su: Authentication failure
[06:11] <anirz_> Sorry.
[06:11] <Ng> xoz: erm, not in ubuntu ;)
[06:11] <xoz> ah, tried sudo?
[06:11] <slept> Ubuntian, I never did a exportfs -ra, youst try to mount from the other machine it should work
[06:12] <xoz> Ubuntian: try exportfs ... without -ra
[06:12] <Ubuntian> well i tried already
[06:12] <Ubuntian> k
[06:12] <Ng> anirz_: do you know which partition it is you want to mount?
[06:12] <jon273> why the hell won't anything ruby-like install using apt?
[06:12] <slept> Ubuntian, whats the error for that
[06:12] <anirz_> ~$ sudo
[06:12] <anirz_> usage: sudo -K | -L | -V | -h | -k | -l | -v
[06:12] <anirz_> usage: sudo [-HPSb]  [-p prompt]  [-u username|#uid] 
[06:12] <anirz_>             { -e file [...]  | -i | -s | <command> }
[06:12] <anirz_> ng yes i know
[06:13] <Ng> anirz_: ok, have you made a mount point for it?
[06:14] <Ng> anirz_: I'm just trying to find out where abouts it is that its failing, if you ahve any error messages that would be helpful ;)
[06:14] <Ubuntian> slept, can't remember, will do it again
[06:14] <magog> guys i have a serious problem, my video is giving out, games jus crash and apps too, firefox will close for no reason, in windows and linux....how can i determine what the issue is?
[06:14] <slept> Ubuntian, are you using the nfs-kernel-server ? I don't even have the exportfs command
[06:15] <anirz_> ng ok.. let me help in this one.. hda0 for floppy right..?
[06:15] <xoz> Ubuntian: try /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server restart
[06:15] <anacron> magog: logs might help :)
[06:15] <xoz> Ubuntian: try /etc/init.d/nfs-user-server stop
[06:15] <Ng> anirz_: fd0 is floppy
[06:15] <magog> anacron, the system log doesent log the crahses
[06:15] <magog> i looked already
[06:15] <Ng> anirz_: hd means hard disk (IDE usually)
[06:16] <Ng> anirz_: if you run "sudo fdisk -l" in a terminal it will list all partitions on all hard disks in your system
[06:16] <xoz> magog: hardware? cpu? ram? give us info... we cannot read your mind
[06:16] <anirz_> ng ok fd0.. now i have xp in C in MS language.. i want to mount D
[06:16] <anirz_> Ng so 'D" should be hda2 right?
[06:16] <magog> xoz, thats my point...i dont know what hardware is casuing this, i think its either cpu or video...i got 1gb ram
[06:16] <magog> and its new
[06:17] <Ng> anirz_: maybe, run the fdisk command I pasted above, it will show you the FAT partition and the start of the line will tell you which /dev/ entry to use
[06:17] <xoz> magog: lspci ... tell us more info
[06:17] <anirz_> Ng: i have 1 NTFS 3 FAT 1 Swap and 1 ext3 partition
[06:17] <magog> xoz lpsi?
[06:17] <xoz> magog: what is your cpu? etc.... video?
[06:17] <magog> ok
[06:17] <Ng> anirz_: ok, D should be the lowest numbered of the FAT partitions I would think
[06:17] <xoz> magog: try lcpci in command prompt
[06:18] <xoz> magog: lspci
[06:18] <magog> nvidia geforece 4 5200, pentium 4 2.4ghz 1gbram
[06:18] <magog> k
[06:18] <xoz> magog: blame nvidia... that's my bet.
[06:18] <Ubuntian> slept, both are installed the nfs kernel server and the nfs common
[06:19] <Ng> anirz_: "sudo mkdir /mnt/fatdrive" will make a mount point for it, then try "mount -t vfat /dev/hdNX /mnt/fatdrive" (replace hdNX with hda2 or whatever it was the fdisk output said), if it doesn't work, tell me the error and run "tail /var/log/syslog" and see if there are any errors in there
[06:19] <magog> xoz, video could cause normal apps to crash too? if its video im in luck..i can get that replaced for free but if its cpu im kinda screwed
[06:19] <xoz> Ubuntian: try the kernel.
[06:19] <Ng> anirz_: if it works then you can turn it into a line in /etc/fstab and it will be mounted every time you boot
[06:19] <Ubuntian> k
[06:19] <anirz_> ng okay
[06:19] <xoz> magog: try memory test... memtest
[06:20] <magog> command not found
[06:20] <xoz> magog: it is one culprit of random crashes
[06:20] <Ng> magog: the package name is memtest86+ and you need to reboot to run it from the boot menu after it is installed
[06:20] <magog> ah,ok
[06:21] <slept> Ubuntian, I don't know about the kernel server , I use the user server which works out of the box edit exports and thats all you need to do
[06:21] <angelo> hello al
[06:21] <angelo> l
[06:21] <angelo> anyone have a Kubuntu linux ?
[06:21] <xoz> Ubuntian: try starting the kernel server... it's faster and stable. then check exportfs
[06:21] <Ubuntian> slept, if only that could work it's getting on my nerves
[06:22] <froh> i haver troubles starting samba, if samba is started after cupsys (by init), it fails to start
[06:22] <BurgerMann> Hi, I have a basic linux question. I'm developing webpages. Since I have my own user 'burgermann' and my websrv-user 'apache' I find it quite annoying when Apache isn't authorized to save my burgermann-owned files and vice versa
[06:22] <slept> Ubuntian, is there a special reason why you want to use the kernel server ?
[06:22] <froh> if sastarted interactively it starts ok
[06:22] <Ubuntian> slept, no
[06:22] <Ubuntian> what's the quick way to find one's IP number on the LAN?
[06:22] <Ng> BurgerMann: you could leave all the web files/directories owned by apache and add yourself to the apache group so you can access them
[06:23] <dennis_> does anyone know how to check kernel version from CLI?
[06:23] <xoz> BurgerMann: add your user to the group of apache
[06:23] <slept> Ubuntian, if you remove the kernel server and install the user-server you can keep your exports
[06:23] <slept> Ubuntian, ifconfig
[06:23] <Pithlit> Ubuntian: the quickest? ask them
[06:23] <froh> Ubuntian: ifconfig ?
[06:23] <Ubuntian> k
[06:23] <BurgerMann> Oh, actually tried but did find it working
[06:23] <[MilMazz] > Hello, i'm trying to install libpng3-dev because i need to compile enlightenment DR17. The problem is i get an error while trying to install libpng3-dev. MD5Sum mismatch
[06:23] <BurgerMann> I'll try again
[06:23] <Ng> BurgerMann: you might need to put more group permissions on the files in that case
[06:24] <xoz> dennis_: uname -a ?
[06:24] <stjepan> hello from Ubuntu
[06:24] <dennis_> thanks xoz
[06:24] <anirz_> ng : i have given these two lines.. is it valid..:/dev/hda5       /mnt/winD       vfat    defaults,auto,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0
[06:24] <anirz_> /dev/hda6       /mnt/winE       vfat    defaults,auto,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0
[06:24] <BurgerMann> Ng, the group permissions should be 7
[06:24] <Ng> BurgerMann: that should be ok then, check that's on the directories too
[06:25] <Ng> anirz_: those look ok, assuming hda5 and 6 are the correct partitions
[06:25] <Ubuntian> ok i understand what's happening, i have DHCP set, and my IP number changed from yesterday, yesterday it was 5 today it's 1 ...
[06:25] <Ubuntian> no wonder NFS didn't work
[06:25] <slept> Ubuntian, :)
[06:25] <xoz> Ubuntian: cannot contact the ip?
[06:26] <anirz_> okay
[06:26] <wizzard> does anybody know where can I get apt-get source for Krita? (KOffice graphics program)
[06:26] <Ubuntian> so to share a printer if u have DHCP u have to change the settings everty time u use it cose the IP number might change ?
[06:26] <anirz_> Ng hda5 is mounting but not hda6..
[06:26] <xoz> Ubuntian: edit /etc/dhclient.conf
[06:27] <Ng> anirz_: "sudo tail /var/log/syslog" - any obvious errors in there?
[06:27] <Ubuntian> omg
[06:27] <anirz_> Ng.. its working now
[06:27] <xoz> Ubuntian: or the dhcp server config... to suggest that you like a particular ip... fixed ip
[06:27] <Ng> anirz_: ok :)
[06:27] <anirz_> i was typing something wrong
[06:27] <anirz_> thank u ng
[06:27] <Ng> anirz_: np :)
[06:28] <Ubuntian> and i thought this would be a walk in the park to set up (file sharing and printer sharing)
[06:28] <[MilMazz] > somebody has had the same problem? -> MD5Sum mismatch via apt-get...
[06:28] <anirz_> Ng: why i am not getting soung in XMMS>
[06:28] <xoz> Ubuntian: printing is *hell* to config in linux
[06:28] <slept> Ubuntian, if you don't whant to look for your ip you can use samba (especially for a printer , for filesharing I prefer nfs)
[06:28] <Seveas> [MilMazz] , the us.archive.ubuntu server is bugging
[06:28] <slept> xoz, ?
[06:28] <Seveas> [MilMazz] , use archive.ubuntu.com
[06:29] <[MilMazz] > Ok! i'll try...
[06:29] <Ubuntian> slept, well i will setup the router so as to have a fixed ip
[06:29] <quam> anirz, ctrl+v, go to the output and try using esound instead of alsa or oss
[06:29] <Ng> anirz_: I'm not sure about sound stuff, I have a card that does a lot of stuff for ubuntu, but I think you might want to install/use the esound output plugin for xmms
[06:29] <Seveas> but i only print local or via ssh :)
[06:29] <Ubuntian> xoz, yesterday the printer worked fine, but my ip changed today so it doesn't anymore, funny stuff
[06:30] <Ng> anirz_: others may know better though
[06:30] <anirz_> NG okay
[06:30] <Chameleon22> hi all, just did apt-get phpdoc and it installed and all, but trying to run it on a script and i cant bloodey find the executable
[06:30] <slept> xoz, what kind of printer do you have - canon?
[06:30] <Ng> anirz_: at least try the oss, alsa and esound/esd output plugins :)
[06:30] <Seveas> Ubuntian, heh, stuff like printer sharing needs wins or static IPs
[06:30] <Ubuntian> Seveas, didn't know that
[06:30] <anirz_> quam, there is no Esound...
[06:30] <psychonate> is it hard to set up a wireless access point?
[06:30] <xoz> fuji xerox
[06:30] <Ubuntian> should have guessed it though
[06:30] <xoz> slept: ^^
[06:31] <Seveas> psychonate, not really
[06:31] <stjepan> do you know any small and fast browser?
[06:31] <Ubuntian> well i've got to go back to work, fixed ip then printer setup, then NFS setup, :-)
[06:31] <Seveas> stjepan, links2
[06:32] <Seveas> starting it with links -g even gives you images :)
[06:32] <quam> anirz_: might need to install it, open the synaptic package manager, search for esound
[06:32] <Ubuntian> thanks guys (i assume there is no gilrs in here right?)
[06:32] <anirz_> quam, ok
[06:32] <psychonate> ...sorta sexist
[06:32] <Th4tBa5t4rd> stjepan... try Lynx it's text only though
[06:32] <geetergod> Think anybody can help me with my sound?
[06:32] <stjepan> ah
[06:32] <Ubuntian> girls*
[06:32] <Seveas> Ubuntian, unfortunately there are few to no girls in these kind of channels
[06:32] <Seveas> Th4tBa5t4rd, links is better than lynx :)
[06:32] <xoz> Ubuntian: no. all girls mimicking boys
[06:33] <stjepan> do you know any like dillo?
[06:33] <Th4tBa5t4rd> are the .us repositories still down? or did i break something?
[06:33] <Seveas> Th4tBa5t4rd, still down
[06:33] <reka> geetergod: what problems?
[06:33] <Amaranth> use uk.archive.ubuntu.com or just archive.ubuntu.com
[06:34] <Th4tBa5t4rd> good good. well. actually bad. but glad i didn't mess anything up
[06:34] <geetergod> reka, my sound did work and i must've did something, now it keeps saying something else is opened
[06:35] <geetergod> reka, any ideas?
[06:35] <reka> geetergod: you could try: killall esd
[06:35] <quam> anirz_: find it in the package manager?
[06:35] <geetergod> reka, that never works
[06:36] <slept> how can I Change encoding for smbtree
[06:36] <geetergod> esd: no process killed
[06:36] <bpuccio> Th4tBa5t4rd: I have a mirror of archive in the US up if you'd like, but its i386 and binary only, no source, no PPC and no AMD64
[06:37] <Th4tBa5t4rd> it's cool. i just wondered. there's nothing i really NEED at the moment, but that you for the offer
[06:37] <geetergod> reka, any idears?
[06:37] <misfit> what's with all these netsplits today?
[06:37] <Th4tBa5t4rd> we should see if playboy.com would put up a mirror ;-)
[06:38] <bpuccio> rofl
[06:38] <reka> geetergod:http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SoundProblemsHoary
[06:38] <anacron> is there wlan problems too?
[06:38] <anacron> or how to set-up wlan guide?
[06:39] <anacron> i can't check it out with this computer right now
[06:39] <reka> geetergod: could you elaborate on the error? or is that all it tells you?
[06:39] <geetergod> reka, i had sound yesterday then someone tried helping me get my surround sound to work, now i cant get any sound out of anything..
[06:40] <Th4tBa5t4rd> http://mirrors.playboy.com/ they mirror FC, and FreeBSD... so you know, why not?
[06:41] <reka> geetergod: [1]  check volume levels/other sound settings.  [2]  using gnome?  if none of the options on that link work, use this http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly.  i fixed my sound problems using that method, but i'd use it as a last resort because there is a chance it may make things worse.
[06:41] <stjepan> where can I download a FLTK port of dillo?
[06:42] <anirz_> quam : esound is installed
[06:42] <quam> try switching to that in xmms and see if you get sound
[06:43] <stjepan> do you know?
[06:43] <stjepan> do you use dillo?
[06:44] <nalioth> stjepan: what is a fltk port of dillo? i know what dillo is, but what is the difference?
[06:44] <wizzard> pls, how can I add a source for an unstable KOffice to my apt-get config file<
[06:44] <stjepan> nalioth, it uses fltk
[06:44] <anirz_> quam, i cant find esound in xmms..
[06:44] <stjepan> 2.0
[06:45] <nalioth> stjepan: suposed to make it quicker?
[06:45] <anirz_> quam: i am getting the sound..
[06:45] <quam> are you?
[06:45] <nalioth> wizzard: with a text editor. /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:46] <quam> so if you're getting sound, dont worry about finding esound in xmms :P
[06:46] <wizzard> yeah, but I did not find any suitable source
[06:46] <stjepan> nalioth, maybe
[06:46] <stjepan> nalioth, look at dillo faq
[06:46] <raptoid> yupp
[06:46] <anirz_> hey gotta go guys... thank you all for ur help..Ng, quam..
[06:47] <quam> sorry couldn't help more
[06:47] <nalioth> stjepan: perhaps you could compile from source, specifying --with-fltk
[06:47] <stjepan> do you know any other browser?
[06:47] <anirz_> quam: i am getting the sound..
[06:47] <nalioth> stjepan: any other browser to do what?
[06:49] <stjepan> nalioth, small and fast browser
[06:50] <ups> anyone know how to burn a 800MB CD in ubuntu?
[06:50] <slept> damn , got a kernel panic right after install - unable to mount rootfs - I hate that machine . First the warty installer didn't work and now that :(
[06:50] <slept> ups, do you already have an .iso ?
[06:51] <ups> no, but i can make one
[06:51] <Pithlit> stjepan: tried Amaya ?
[06:51] <nalioth> stjepan: graphical? cuz i like console browsers for speed
[06:51] <Pithlit> ehhh... too late
[06:52] <reka> nalioth: text-only eh?  what do you use?
[06:52] <nalioth> the phone never stops ringin'
[06:52] <ups> slept, any suggestions?
[06:52] <slept> ups, cdrecord  -overburn file.iso, you might need an dev=ATAPI:/dev/hd..
[06:52] <geetergod> reka, i dunno, i cant get nothin to work
[06:53] <geetergod> reka, i didnt go through that process on the page, it wasnt working just right so i stopped
[06:53] <reka> geetergod: tried all my suggestions?
[06:53] <slept> ups, you can make the iso with  mkisofs
[06:53] <ups> slept, thanks, but n-c-b failed to work with the overburn option... do u think that will?
[06:53] <nalioth_wrkn> reka i compiled links from twibright labs, with graphics and javascript support and boy is it quick
[06:53] <Deffy> Hello
[06:53] <Pithlit> hi
[06:54] <trauma> Hi
[06:54] <slept> ups, what is n-b-c ?
[06:54] <ups> slept, i only have one 800MB cd left now... so wanna be sure :)
[06:54] <Deffy> how is everyone?
[06:54] <geetergod> reka, when i try playing something in xmms i get Please Check that: Your soundcard is configured properly. You have the correct output plugin selected. No other program is blocking the soundcard.
[06:54] <matjan_> hello, i installed ubuntu yesterday and all went pretty fine... however, i get a warning when i log in... it says this:
[06:54] <ups> slept, nautilus-cd-burner
[06:54] <matjan_> Could not look up internet address for linux-ubuntu. This will prevent GNOME from operating correctly. It may be possible to correct the problem by adding linux-ubuntu to the file /etc/hosts.
[06:54] <matjan_> what is wrong?
[06:54] <trauma> well, add linux-ubuntu to the file /etc/hosts
[06:54] <reka> nalioth_wrkn: i've never used a text browser, are links followed sort of like the 'info' system?
[06:54] <trauma> and see what it does
[06:54] <geetergod> reka, and when i try watching a video inTotem i get 'ALSA device "default" is already in use by another program.
[06:55] <psychonate> heh
[06:55] <reka> geetergod: change the output plugin in xmms to esound or alsa
[06:55] <JayLv99> Hello, where can I find a version of ubuntu that I can just download to my harddrive then install w/out burning it to CD?
[06:55] <matjan_> trauma: how to do that? i looked in /etc/hosts... and now it says: 127.0.0.1 localhost
[06:55] <slept> ups, don't know much about nautilus - I use xfce
[06:55] <Deffy> just downloaded the LiveCD, liked what I saw and now downloading the full version but I do have a question
[06:55] <matjan_> trauma: what ip-address do i give to linux-ubuntu?
[06:56] <trauma> simply add the line: linux-ubuntu
[06:56] <Pithlit> Deffy: just ask
[06:56] <matjan_> that's all??
[06:56] <geetergod> reka, its on ALSA 1.2.10 output plugin [libALSA.so] 
[06:56] <trauma> I don't know
[06:56] <reka> geetergod: the totem problem is because you opened another program that uses sound, ubuntu only lets you use one at a time in its default config iirc.
[06:56] <trauma> it's only what I would try
[06:56] <trauma> you never know
[06:56] <Funzo> is there any documentation on out of the box supported wifi cards?
[06:56] <Pithlit> matjan_: try and see what happens
[06:56] <ups> slept, ok. but are u sure cdrecord with -overburn will be able to burn 800MB disc?
[06:56] <reka> geetergod: you wouldn't be using xmms and totem at the same time would you?
[06:56] <JayLv99> Hello, where can I find a version of ubuntu that I can just download to my harddrive then install w/out burning it to CD?
[06:56] <geetergod> no
[06:56] <geetergod> reka, no
[06:56] <matjan_> alright, i guess i'll try that then
[06:57] <trauma> good luck
[06:57] <psychonate> My friend gave me an old Dell Optiplex 900mhz celeron that he wasn't using. Well, it has two free PCI slots because it has onboard video, sound, NIC; however, Dell does not want you to add cards that easily; (I assume they want you to buy a whole new PC from them rather than upgrade it yourself.) so, they have the slots blocked off with some metal.
[06:57] <Deffy> I am using a wifi connnection with a USB Wifi thingy, now it didn't seem to work with the LiveCD, is there anything I'll have to do in the full version to get it to work?
[06:57] <slept> ups, I'm not sure -I never tried it , but cdrecord should do it
[06:57] <matjan_> thanks
[06:57] <Funzo> or can anyone reccomend a cheap usb wifi card that is supported under ubuntu
[06:57] <psychonate> well, this did not phase me
[06:57] <reka> geetergod: hmmm, have you restarted the computer?
[06:57] <keltos> i got a realplayer 10 prob, where can i get help?
[06:57] <Pithlit> Deffy: prolly recompile the kernel
[06:57] <psychonate> I got some heavy-ass bolt cutters
[06:57] <geetergod> reka, yes
[06:57] <psychonate> ripped that damn metal off
[06:57] <Pithlit> Deffy: if it is at all supported
[06:57] <psychonate> two free PCI slots now heh
[06:57] <Pithlit> Deffy: gimme the model number
[06:58] <reka> geetergod: ok, one of the 1st things i do after ubuntu install is to install totem-xine
[06:58] <JayLv99> Hello, where can I find a version of ubuntu that I can just download to my harddrive then install w/out burning it to CD?
[06:58] <gskillet> I pulled my wireless network card out of the port on my laptop to read a number off of it, and it removed eth1 from my Network settings, and upon re-insertion of the card (and reboot) it has not been detected again automatically, how can I get my Wireless card to show up again in Network settings? (there is no Add button like it shows in Help)
[06:58] <reka> geetergod: it uses the xine backend rather than the default gstreamer
[06:58] <geetergod> reka, the sound stopped when i was in Volume Control and did something with Multi Track Internal Clock
[06:58] <Deffy> Well it's a Belkin wireless adaptor 802.11g
[06:59] <geetergod> reka, i have xine, is totem-xine different/
[06:59] <Deffy> all I happen to have on it
[06:59] <Pithlit> JayLv99: what's stopping you from burning the damn cd?
[06:59] <reka> geetergod: same program, different backend. try it, you can always jsut go back if you want.
[06:59] <geetergod> k
[06:59] <reka> geetergod: actaully hang on
[07:00] <JayLv99> Pithlit: my crappy computer doesn't want to run from CD when I try it ;/
[07:00] <reka> geetergod: sorry misread it.  does xine work?
[07:00] <Pithlit> Deffy: model number?
[07:00] <JayLv99> I've already burned the ISO image to disk twice
[07:00] <JayLv99> and it won't run.
[07:00] <geetergod> reka, xine plays video but no sound
[07:00] <Pithlit> JayLv99: get a boot floppy, put it in, put the cd in and reboot
[07:00] <JayLv99> where would I get a boot floppy?
[07:00] <Deffy> F507050
[07:00] <Pithlit> gimme a sec
[07:01] <reka> geetergod: hmm, well you've isolated it to an effect from changing vol. control setting.  do you know what you did?
[07:01] <Deffy> other then that box and manual just say Belkin 802.11g Wifi Adaptor
[07:01] <ups> slept, thank, i'll look into it
[07:01] <geetergod> reka, no i dont :(
[07:01] <slept> ups, good luck
[07:01] <gskillet> Anybody know why Ubuntu would remove my Wireless card from Network settings when I unplugged it? Now i cant get it back
[07:02] <geetergod> reka, what command do i use to use totem-xine?
[07:02] <Pithlit> JayLv99: http://freeweb.siol.net/pithlit/morphixboot_02.img
[07:02] <reka> geetergod: once you install it, 'totem'.
[07:02] <geetergod> k
[07:03] <geetergod> reka, it started
[07:03] <slept> what might be the reason for - kernelpanic unable to mount rootfs
[07:03] <reka> geetergod: it replaces totem-gstreamer with totem-xine
[07:03] <reka> geetergod: the install, that is
[07:03] <slept> what are the things I can look for
[07:03] <geetergod> reka, its playing the video but no sound
[07:03] <Pithlit> Deffy: Your search - belkin f507050 - did not match any documents.
[07:04] <Pithlit> are you sure that's the model
[07:04] <reka> slept: tried #kernel-panic?
[07:04] <forsaker8k6> hi guys... does someone know where i can find an ac3 filter to play videos with ac3 audio?
[07:05] <Deffy> Pithlit: I'm sure, the box and the manual just call it "Wireless G USB Network Adaptor"
[07:05] <Deffy> oops
[07:05] <Deffy> my bad
[07:05] <gskillet> waiting for help: Wireless Card (eth1) disappeared from Ubuntu, and now Wireless Card is: No device found - All resulted from removing and re-inserting Netgear MA401 PCMIA 802.11B wireless card
[07:05] <PhantomFreak> Gnome has an applet for CPUfreq in /usr/lib/gnome-applets... Does anyone know how to get it to work?
[07:05] <reka> geetergod: i dunno....  you'll have to try and undo the vol. control setting you did :-/  if you decide to reinstall, i'd at least try the ubguide fix before you do.
[07:05] <geetergod> reka, any idears?
[07:05] <Deffy> F5D7050
[07:05] <Pithlit> k
[07:05] <Pithlit> looking
[07:05] <geetergod> reka, ok
[07:05] <reka> geetergod: that's all i've got sorry.
[07:05] <forsaker8k6> i guess no one here knows... thanks anyway :)
[07:06] <geetergod> reka, thanks anyway! i'll get it to work somehow
[07:06] <wizzard> pls, where can I find all the debian packages? I would like to download preview version of KOffice 1.4 with Krita program
[07:06] <reka> PhantomFreak: it doesn't work, or you don't know how to run it?
[07:06] <xoz> forsaker8k6: apt-cache search ac3
[07:06] <geetergod> reka, i just noticed the sound thing on the taskbar isnt even there
[07:06] <reka> wizzard: don't.  using debian packages is a no-no afaik
[07:06] <forsaker8k6> tnx xoz i'll try ;)
[07:06] <PhantomFreak> Well it apears to run, ish! But I don't know how to get gnome to load applets!
[07:07] <wizzard> reka, what do you mean? I should not use debian packages?
[07:07] <reka> geetergod: hmm, maybe find the vol. control package and reinstall it via synaptic
[07:07] <dadan> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gcc-3.4/gcc-3.4-base_3.4.3-9ubuntu4_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[07:07] <dadan> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[07:07] <xoz> wizzard: ubuntu is based on debian but packages version differs
[07:07] <reka> wizzard: yes.  i think i saw someone warned about that
[07:07] <dadan> how i can fix it
[07:07] <reka> dadan: what are you tryng to do?
[07:08] <wizzard> ok, so you think it is possible to find any source with preview KOffice packages?
[07:08] <dadan> i'm trying to install gcc
[07:08] <reka> dadan: install build-essential
[07:08] <PhantomFreak> So... Does anyone have any idea about this gnome applet?
[07:08] <reka> PhantomFreak: right click on panel-> add to panel
[07:08] <Pithlit> Deffy: you're gonna need this http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[07:08] <reka> PhantomFreak: those are applets. :-] 
[07:08] <gskillet> waiting for help: Wireless Card (eth1) disappeared from Ubuntu, and now Wireless Card is: No device found - All resulted from removing and re-inserting Netgear MA401 PCMIA 802.11B wireless card
[07:09] <PhantomFreak> It said that in some of the files! Which panel?
[07:09] <reka> PhantomFreak: top or bottom
[07:09] <Deffy> Pithlit: Thanks :)
[07:09] <reka> PhantomFreak: panel/taskbar
[07:09] <orhs> hey all i have a HP pavilion ze2000 laptop, i have installed ndiswrapper but i need the proper drivers... can anyone help me provide thoose drivers?
[07:09] <xoz> gskillet: reinsert again and make sure it is properly stuck
[07:09] <reka> wizzard: why koffice?
[07:09] <Pithlit> Deffy: np
[07:10] <gskillet> xoz: it is, light is on and everything
[07:10] <PhantomFreak> Shit, that was easy! Wish I realised that earlier... I've been trying to get that to work for a while!
[07:10] <wizzard> cause I would like to have some simple graphics program
[07:10] <xoz> gskillet: dmesg
[07:10] <gskillet> xoz: i removed the card and re-inserted it, now Ubuntu cant and will not recognize something as being there
[07:10] <marin> I have a problem: My laptop doesn't power off when I try to halt the system
[07:10] <reka> PhantomFreak: hehe.  well you won't forget where gnome applets are now, won't you?
[07:10] <wizzard> I have KOffice 1.3.5, but there is no good graphics program
[07:10] <trauma> marin: I've got the same problem
[07:10] <gskillet> xoz: dmesg only returns eth0 (my onboard ethernet)
[07:10] <reka> wizzard: graphics?
[07:11] <xoz> gskillet: modprobe <module for wireless>
[07:11] <wizzard> I dont like Gimp
[07:11] <PhantomFreak> reka Very True!
[07:11] <marin> just restart the system
[07:11] <dadan> how i can install tcl
[07:11] <Pithlit> omg how can you not like gimp ?
[07:11] <reka> wizzard: KOffice 1.3.5 is the current official KOffice release.
[07:11] <reka> from the website
[07:11] <gskillet> xoz: no return
[07:11] <trauma> marin: I believe you need to add 'apm' to /etc/modules
[07:11] <xoz> gskillet: and /etc/init.d/networking restart
[07:11] <reka> 1.3.5 is in the repos
[07:11] <wizzard> I was used to Windoze apps
[07:11] <wizzard> and prefer KDE to Gnome
[07:12] <trauma> not sure if that works though
[07:12] <orhs> anyone got the drivers for A broadcom BCM4306 802.11b wireless lan controller?
[07:12] <xoz> gskillet: lsmod | grep <wireless modul>
[07:12] <Lafitte-> hola
[07:13] <marin> how can I do that?
[07:13] <xoz> orhs: google what driver is used for that
[07:13] <trauma> in a terminal, as root, enter 'gedit /etc/modules
[07:13] <Pithlit> orhs: afaik broadcom won't work with linux
[07:13] <trauma> and add 'apm' to it
[07:13] <trauma> don't forget to save
[07:13] <dadan> how i can install tcl
[07:13] <Pithlit> I might be wrong tho
[07:13] <orhs> pithlit, yes it will becuase i did this one time before but i dont remember what i did
[07:13] <Darcamo> n
[07:13] <ren0> Hello. I reinstalled a couple of days ago with hoary and now I have no sound.
[07:14] <Pithlit> orhs: my bad then
[07:14] <reka> wizzard: what's wrong with the gimp?  what exactly do you need?
[07:14] <marin> Ok, i'm going to try
[07:14] <orhs> xoz, i have googled it but i just found forums with help on how to do it not any links for downloading
[07:14] <marin> thanks
[07:14] <xoz> orhs: http://www.broadcom.com/drivers/driver-sla.php?driver=4401-Linux
[07:14] <trauma> no problem, good luck
[07:14] <ren0> Yes the volume is up and its not muted.
[07:14] <wizzard> I want something like Paint Shop Pro in Windoze
[07:14] <kevogod> If I have Fedora installed on one hard drive and install Ubuntu to the other, will Ubuntu recognize Fedora and add it to Grub?
[07:14] <Darcamo> I have problems with sound too. Sometimes when i boot the computer i have no sound. Then i just reboot until i get sound
[07:14] <erb> hello
[07:15] <wizzard> reka: I dont like Gimp environment
[07:15] <xoz> orhs: you know what driver it uses? try module-assistant
[07:15] <ren0> I have this error in the multimedia selector: Failed to construct test pipeline for 'ESD - Enlightenment Sound Daemon'
[07:15] <sam_> xoz: reconfigure did not add the wireless card, i think i have the pcmia, prism, orinoco's on modprobe
[07:15] <reka> wizzard: how complex are you going to get?  are you happy with something like ms paint?
[07:15] <ren0> Failed to construct test pipeline for 'OSS - Open Sound System
[07:15] <xoz> sam_: iwconfig ?
[07:16] <wizzard> reka, nope, but I saw the animations of Krita, it looks very impressive
[07:16] <orhs> xoz it uses bcm4306 driver, and its a WLAN card not a eth card :P
[07:16] <orhs> brb
[07:16] <sam_> xoz: iwconfig returns lo, eth0, sit0, but no eth1
[07:16] <Pithlit> orhs: http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2004/11/msg00423.html
[07:16] <slept> kevogod, make sure you don't have grub installed twice that will cause strange problems ,  grub will find everything with grub-update
[07:16] <xoz> sam_: is it eth1?
[07:16] <Pithlit> err...
[07:16] <ren0> Darcamo, thanks for the tip but I have rebooted several times now.
[07:16] <sam_> xoz: it was before it disappeared
[07:17] <xoz> sam_: modprobe -r orinoco ... the modprobe orinoco
[07:17] <xoz> sam_: iwconfig again
[07:17] <kevogod> slept: OK Thanks.
[07:17] <sam_> xoz: says orinoco is in use
[07:18] <xoz> sam_: modprobe -r orinoco_pci
[07:18] <sam_> xoz: modprobe has no return, but -r says in use
[07:18] <xoz> sam_: modprobe -r orinoco
[07:18] <reka> for those with SOUND problems: http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly (use as last resort, it *may* cause problems)
[07:18] <Darcamo> I noticed that when i have no sound, the "dsp" device in /dev doesn't exist. Only dsp1. I try the comand MAKEDEV dsp in /dev, but it didn't workout either.
[07:18] <xoz> sam_: lsmod | grep orinoco
[07:18] <xoz> sam_: remove those with orinoco prefix
[07:19] <reka> wizzard: i hate kde apps. so i can't really help you i reckon.  i'm happy with the gimp.
[07:19] <ren0> reka, thanks I'll look at that
[07:19] <trauma> marin: did it work?
[07:19] <marin> ok
[07:19] <xoz> s/gimp/gnome
[07:19] <wizzard> reka: I love KDE and hate Gnome, but thank you very much anyway
[07:19] <marin> the problem have been solved
[07:20] <reka> wizzard: try asking at #kubuntu or #kde
[07:20] <Zzzippo> hi all
[07:20] <sam_> xoz: i did modprobe -r for orinoco and orinoco_cs
[07:20] <sam_> xoz: the two that showed for lsmod grep orinoco
[07:20] <Zzzippo> ubuntu live cd wont boot ;(
[07:20] <wizzard> reka: yeah, I tried kubuntu, but kde channel is a good idea, I will try
[07:20] <xoz> sam_: ah, then try modprobe inserting them again... orinoco is buggy.
[07:20] <reka> good luck
[07:21] <Riddell> wizzard: there are packages of koffice 1.4 beta for kubuntu
[07:21] <xoz> sam_: i prefer hostap... although it is not in the official kernel
[07:21] <sam_> xoz: my card is pcmcia but i thikn thats the same as orinoco
[07:21] <wizzard> Riddell: do you know where?
[07:21] <xoz> sam_: orinoco_cs ... for pcmcia
[07:21] <xoz> sam_: orinoco_pci ... for internal
[07:22] <sam_> xoz: yeah got it
[07:22] <mp_> is there anyting like InfoCentre in Ubuntu to view processor type, RAm etc?
[07:22] <sam_> xoz: now that ive re-inserted them how do i get the eth1 back?
[07:22] <xoz> sam_: the painful but easiest way is to reboot and avoid removing the card.
[07:22] <Riddell> wizzard: deb http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/unstable/koffice-1.4-beta1/kubuntu/ ./
[07:22] <Seveas> Th4tBa5t4rd, still down
[07:22] <Seveas> narf, sorry
[07:22] <sam_> xoz: i know i should have but i forgot, stupid thing still isnt showing up
[07:22] <wizzard> Riddell, thank you very much
[07:22] <xoz> sam_: try iwconfig eth1... or restart your network
[07:23] <sam_> xoz ok
[07:23] <sam_> xoz: eth1      No such device
[07:23] <lukins> does ubuntu dvd contain all ubuntu packages?
[07:23] <PhantomFreak> OK... So I'm back, the applet is visible, but it isn't showing anything usefull!
[07:23] <xoz> sam_: what kernel version?
[07:23] <sam_> xoz: how to i label it as eth1 again, i dont think ive had a chance to tell it that i want it to be eth1
[07:23] <reka> mp_: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[07:23] <sam_> 3.1
[07:24] <xoz> sam_: apt-get install ifrename
[07:24] <reka> mp_: cat /proc/meminfo
[07:24] <xoz> or edit /etc/network/interfaces
[07:24] <sam_> xoz ok
[07:25] <PhantomFreak> Has anyone else tried to get this applet to work?
[07:25] <sam_> xoz: i have eth0, but its my onboard ethernet
[07:25] <sam_> xoz: thats the only thing its letting me rename
[07:25] <sam_> xoz: its still not detecting that i have a PCMCIA since i pulled it out
[07:26] <reka> lukins: i'm guessing no.
[07:26] <sam_> xoz: when i installed ubuntu, the first or second screen that it gave me was a choice on which card to use to download packages, it was able to detect both -- can i get to this screen again? (base-config or something?)
[07:27] <Stargazer> Good morning.. perhaps someone can tell me what I'm doing wrong.. I'm running 5.04 PPC and I'm trying to watch divx's.. I've installed totem-xine, and I've installed vlc.. with both of them the video displays fine but no audio plays at all... what am I doing wrong??
[07:27] <lukins> does anyone here have the ubuntu dvd? does it contain all ubuntu packages?
[07:28] <reka> where's thoreaputic when you need him?
[07:28] <sam_> xoz: im going to reboot with the re-inserted orinoco
[07:28] <mgcross> hello all
[07:28] <mgcross> Any South Koreans in the house?
[07:28] <dennis_> hello, there. I installed Ubuntu last night when I was a little drunk, but I don't recall setting a password for root? Is there a default?
[07:28] <Rap-to-Ubuntu> #/dialog  xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[07:29] <crimsun> dennis_: see the topic faq regarding root
[07:29] <Pithlit> dennis_: yeah... default is - no root
[07:29] <dennis_> thx
[07:29] <mgcross> dennis...sudo pass will be the same as your account pass
[07:29] <reka> Stargazer: try this: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SoundProblemsHoary
[07:29] <refuze2looze> dennis_: there is no root account, when it asks for your root password enter your user password
[07:30] <dennis_> any idea why when type 'chkconfig' I get command not found?
[07:30] <crimsun> dennis_: it's not red hat
[07:31] <crimsun> ubuntu doesn't ship with chkconfig
[07:31] <Ng> debian based systems use update-rc.d to do the equivalent things
[07:31] <radxx> hey all
[07:31] <mgcross> Hi
[07:32] <radxx> I managed to get Gnome/Xorg working at last :D
[07:32] <reka> radxx: how did you go?
[07:32] <toresbe> radxx: grats
[07:32] <radxx> but... it meant putting the resolution down to 1024x768
[07:32] <dennis_> sorry I am relatively new to linux
[07:32] <reka> radxx: why?
[07:32] <radxx> so I'm sitting here with a 20" lcd with everything about double normal size
[07:33] <Pithlit> dennis_: nothing to be sorry about... just don't ever lose your sense of humor :P
[07:33] <radxx> I have no idea, but it either would not display anything or be a corrupt image if I tried to run it in 1600x1200
[07:34] <refuze2looze> radxx: are you sure you got the horizontal and vertical sync rate of your monitor right?
[07:34] <nalioth> reka we still on about fast browsers?
[07:34] <orhs> i have just installed Ndiswrapper now, but i want my WLAN card(BCM4306) to be installed... the drivers i need is BCM4306.inf and BCM4306.inf2 <--- i think thats the driver name
[07:34] <reka> nalioth: sure.  i'm curious.
[07:34] <synd> dillo is fast :>
[07:34] <nalioth> reka: did you grok what i sent u earlier?
[07:35] <reka> you sent me something?
[07:35] <ren0> Thanks whoever gave me the www.ubuntuguide.org tip about the sound. Its working now
[07:35] <nalioth> synd: someone was in here earlier lookin for dillo with fltk
[07:35] <gpled> is their a cad or drafting program for ubuntu?
[07:36] <ren0> qcad
[07:36] <radxx> that may have been the problem, I tried ultra conservative settings and then it worked. What should the sync rates be like for a Viewsonic 20" lcd? It was just a bit confusing in the config program when it was listing the top possible refresh rates with (1280x1024) resolution after.
[07:36] <ren0> there is also Linuxcad ut its a commercial program
[07:36] <ren0> but
[07:36] <synd> nalioth: ever tried Lynx?
[07:36] <gpled> think qcad is commercial now too.
[07:36] <goldfish> anyone ever heard of the programming language chef ?
[07:37] <reka> ren0: that was me.  good to hear it fixed it.
[07:37] <schasi> goldfish: yes me
[07:37] <Burgundavia> gpled, qcad can be gpl and commercial
[07:37] <refuze2looze> radxx: you should see your monitor's manual. it should have the sync rates there.. or check the company's website, or maybe it says it on the back of your monitor
[07:37] <gskillet> xoz: no luck... still only has my onboard ethernet
[07:37] <nalioth> synd: i use self-compiled links from twibright labs. i compile with --with-graphics and --enable-javascript
[07:37] <goldfish> schasi: hehe, very amusing :) nearly as mad as piet
[07:37] <ren0> A google for linux and cad should give you some good links
[07:37] <nalioth> synd: lynx is for your grandpop
[07:37] <schasi> goldfish: Go to wikipedia for a whole bunch ofem
[07:37] <goldfish> http://www.weavedigital.com/guess-the-google/?l=1
[07:38] <goldfish> google game
[07:38] <goldfish> fun :)
[07:38] <synd> heh heh
[07:38] <goldfish> schasi: yeah just read the page, quite funny :)
[07:38] <schasi> tried brainfuck for some time
[07:38] <IIIEars> radxx -If you have the FCC ID# you can find out -everythinng- about what is inside your monitor.
[07:38] <nalioth> reka: are you familier with compilation of source code?
[07:38] <gskillet> you know whats really sad, the only way to get ubuntu to find my PCMCIA wireless card is to re-install?
[07:38] <ren0> gpled "sudo apt-get install qcad" It works
[07:39] <reka> nalioth: you mean configure, make and make install?
[07:39] <ren0> It will appear in your Graphics Applications
[07:39] <gskillet> can you believe i have to re-install ubuntu because i removed a PCMCIA wireless card and put it back in?  ubuntu cant plug and play
[07:39] <IIIEars> The FCC ID# is printed on a lot of other parts motherboards too. - check that number on the FCC.gov site
[07:39] <nalioth> reka: well, i use checkinstall isntead of make install (keeps the ol' system a little cleaner)
[07:39] <synd> gskillet: no
[07:40] <reka> nalioth: well why don't the readmes tell you that?
[07:40] <gskillet> synd: it wont detect my PCMCIA card anymore, it doesnt find it at all
[07:40] <nalioth> reka: what readmes?
[07:40] <synd> gskillet: i pull my PCMCIA card out all the time
[07:40] <gskillet> synd: i re-inserted orinoco drivers, but it still only has my onboard card
[07:40] <jyrki> just installed lates version of Ubuntu. Problems with screen resolution setting. System->Settings->Screen Resolution application does not allow to set more than 1024x768, 60Hz. I'm using oly GUI at the moment. I have GeForce5200FX and Nokia 447Xi monitor. In windows I use 1280x1024 with 90Hz so this should work here also
[07:40] <gpled> ren0:  E: Package qcad has no installation candidate
[07:40] <synd> gskillet: whats wrong with the onboard card? or is that not wireless?
[07:41] <gskillet> synd: after removing my PCMCIA card once, it removed all references to it on the computer, the onboard is ethernet
[07:41] <reka> nalioth: when you compile programs from source.  they usually have README files.
[07:41] <gskillet> synd: my wireless use to be eth1, now eth1 = No device found
[07:41] <synd> gskillet: hm, mine is wlan0
[07:41] <refuze2looze> jyrki: you have to edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add that resolution to your modes. also make sure your vertical and horiz sync rates are correct
[07:41] <nalioth> reka: and the choice of "make install" and "checkinstall" is entirely left to the user
[07:41] <gskillet> synd: what did u do to add it
[07:42] <synd> gskillet: did you have to use ndiswrapper?
[07:42] <gskillet> synd: no i selected it on the first-question of the ubuntu install
[07:42] <reka> nalioth: true i guess.
[07:42] <gskillet> synd: it showed my onboard and my wireless and let me select
[07:42] <gskillet> synd: now the wireless is gone completely and only eth0 onboard remains
[07:42] <krapnek> hello there, anybody in here familiar with Lilo error: L 99 99 99.....?
[07:43] <jyrki> How I can system to do this automatically?
[07:43] <krapnek> i don't know how to force lab32 booting
[07:43] <gskillet> synd: so i need to manually install the PCMCIA card again, i re-installed the drivers but its still not detecting it
[07:43] <synd> gskillet: if it detects during install, theres no reason why it shouldnt now.
[07:43] <gskillet> synd: No device found. :/
[07:43] <reka> ubotu: tell jyrki about fixres
[07:43] <synd> gskillet: did you reboot? ie shutdown, wait a min and restart?
[07:43] <gskillet> synd: yes this happend a few days ago ive been trying to fix it since
[07:43] <anacron> hey guys what's wrong when i can't add volume control to my panel, where can i change my volume?
[07:43] <reka> jyrki: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:44] <gskillet> synd: i actually had this problem before, and only re-installing ubuntu fixed it
[07:44] <IIIEars> krapnek - lilo failed and corrupted your MBR. going to need a disk util or dd to rewrite it.
[07:44] <ren0> gpled, you may need to add more repositories: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[07:44] <gskillet> synd: but i have come too far on this install and i dont want to start over
[07:44] <Kartagis> hello
[07:44] <gskillet> synd: its like the only way for it to see my card is thru that first screen during install
[07:44] <anacron> hello fellow
[07:44] <synd> gskillet: its absurd that you have to reinstall for it to be seen
[07:44] <reka> anacron: apps->sound&vid
[07:45] <krapnek> IIIEars: not possible by "lilo -L"
[07:45] <anacron> reka: ok tnx
[07:45] <synd> gskillet: what happens if you shutdown completely and not take it out?
[07:45] <Stargazer> What do I need to install to get totem player to play mp3's?
[07:45] <ren0> Then sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade and then you can install the program
[07:45] <Kartagis> I want to retrieve a package without retrieving its dependencies. how?
[07:45] <synd> gskillet: it still works upon reboot?
[07:45] <gskillet> synd: i turn it back on and i still cant use wireless, only ethernet works
[07:45] <gskillet> synd: no it hasnt worked since i pulled it out and put it back in
[07:45] <reka> Stargazer: gstreamer0.8-mad iirc
[07:45] <Kartagis> Stargazer: apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[07:45] <anacron> reka: heh, "error registry is not present or it is corrupted, please update it blaa blaa"
[07:45] <reka> Stargazer: did you get sound working?
[07:45] <gskillet> synd: the card is still good, light is on and everything
[07:45] <synd> gskillet: no i meant back when it did work
[07:46] <radxx> right just having a bash at setting the refresh rates, hopefully this is going to work...
[07:46] <gskillet> synd: yeah it worked fine reboot shutdown etc, only on removal did it stop
[07:46] <Ubuntian> there we go, IP numbers assigned and printer shared! now the NFS stuff... :-)
[07:46] <nalioth> Stargazer: www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[07:46] <ren0> Stargazer: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[07:46] <reka> anacron: sounds like you've got bigger problems...
[07:46] <synd> gskillet: thats very very odd
[07:46] <anacron> voice control says i have to run gts-register, but terminal says command not found :/
[07:46] <synd> gskillet: i remove my pcmcia card all the time
[07:47] <anacron> reka: well seems so, anyway sounds work fine, i just can't adjust the volume in linux
[07:47] <reka> anacron: voice control?
[07:47] <erb> hello
[07:47] <anacron> reka: volume*
[07:47] <gskillet> synd: yeah its making me crazy
[07:47] <radxx> can I just hit ctrl+alt+backspace to restart gdm and then will it load the new xorg.conf ?
[07:47] <reka> anacron: sys->prefs->k/b shortcuts
[07:48] <gskillet> synd: i just need to re-add the card manually but i dont know how - other than re-insert Orinoco PCMCIA drivers which i did
[07:48] <nalioth> reka: <voice>Send Money Now</voice>
[07:48] <reka> anacron: add one for volume up and volume down
[07:48] <anacron> reka: ok, i'll try that :D
[07:48] <reka> nalioth: heh
[07:48] <erb> is there any kind of gui-app what i can use to enable/disable network services on my machine?
[07:48] <synd> gskillet: yeah
[07:48] <IIIEars> krapnek - http://lists.ethernal.org/cantlug-0208/msg00155.html - this should help.
[07:49] <gskillet> synd: eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[07:49] <Kartagis> radxx: yeah
[07:49] <radxx> thanks, brb
[07:49] <gskillet> synd: SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
[07:49] <reka> Ubuntian: how so?
[07:49] <krapnek> IIIEars: thank you for advice. im a real newbie but try my best
[07:49] <nalioth> reka: ya find the checkinstall page? its in your repos, btw
[07:49] <krapnek> will tell you if it works, IIIEars
[07:50] <IIIEars> krapnek - It gets easier. - thank god... - lol
[07:50] <Kartagis> I want to retrieve a package without retrieving its dependencies. how?
[07:50] <Ubuntian> reka, because it smells new, it's fast, the keybord feels nice, well i love it
[07:50] <reka> nalioth: i did an apt-cache show .. i don't install many things by source anyway, but what's the diff b/n it and normal make install?
[07:50] <jyrki> Thanks, I'll read instructions from: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:50] <erb> sby. can help me?
[07:50] <nalioth> Ubuntian: if you are male, we hope you don't use it on your actual lap
[07:51] <orhs> i dont find the driver(s) for my Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller
[07:51] <nalioth> reka: checkinstall makes debs (not worth a crap to anyone but you) so the system can keep up with WHERE all the custom stuff is installed
[07:51] <mjr> orhs, there isn't
[07:51] <radxx> wooohoooo, native resolution at last :D
[07:52] <nalioth> reka: beats havin to go thru /usr/local/* to clean out the old versions of hand compiled stuff
[07:52] <reka> nalioth: ah. so you make a deb and install using dpkg?
[07:52] <anacron> reka: keyboard shortcuts won't change volume, even they try
[07:52] <radxx> thanks everyone for your help in solving my xorg problems
[07:52] <nalioth> reka: checkinstall makes the deb AND installs it. What a deal, eh?
[07:52] <reka> anacron: sounds like vol. control is stuffed then. :-/
[07:52] <reka> nalioth: nice.  *makes note*
[07:52] <orhs> mjr yes there is... i just installed ndis to make it eat the drivers but i dont find the drivers
[07:52] <anacron> reka: can i reinstall it?
[07:53] <nalioth> reka: then you save the deb it made off to a source directory and ya dont have to recompile after you reinstall or if you build/get an idientical machine
[07:53] <reka> anacron: dunno.  it might be integrated, try and look for the package.
[07:53] <ksoze> so I asked this late at night, but never mid day (in this part of the world): any good sound recording packages out there that just work (no need to kill or replace esd)?
[07:53] <anacron> reka: yeah, i'll try to
[07:53] <reka> nalioth: cool.  i guess that makes uninstalling cleaner too.
[07:54] <dennis_> if I download a driver for windows in self-extracting .exe format is there a way to extract the files from it under linux?
[07:54] <IIIEars> ubotu ubuntu
[07:54] <ubotu> IIIEars: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[07:54] <Stargazer> Reka: Yup.. got sound working.. the video is  jumpy.. but that probably is because of my weak processor...  Also, I've got white shimmering pixels that show up in the video everywhere.. any idea why?
[07:54] <nalioth> reka: yes cuz the dpkg database keeps track of where all the crap went
[07:54] <IIIEars> !status
[07:54] <ksoze> I tried audacity, and it hates esd
[07:54] <reka> IIIEars: the dbase seems to have been wiped.  all of my info i feeded was gone
[07:55] <anacron> dennis_: you can try with wine
[07:55] <reka> thanks
[07:55] <reka> that's pretty darn useful
[07:55] <dennis_> oh man, this is getting complicated
[07:55] <ksoze> sweep has the strange limitation of making you set the file length up front
[07:55] <nalioth> reka: i'm an old dog, but some new tricks just make sense
[07:55] <anacron> :D
[07:55] <reka> Stargazer: jumpy in videos? or DVD?
[07:55] <IIIEars> reka - there seems to be a backup. wondering if cafuego has noticed
[07:55] <nalioth> reka: do you know how to build your own ubuntu pkgs?
[07:56] <ksoze> Maybe this is the wrong platform.
[07:56] <nalioth> IIIEars: its all your fault, you tease that poor bot so
[07:56] <ksoze> it does a lot of things very well
[07:56] <pfp> dennis_: self-extracting zip files can be opened with 'zip' or 'unzip'
[07:56] <reka> nalioth: nope.  i haven't written any s/ware...
[07:56] <ksoze> just not this
[07:56] <erb> how can i start/stop network services?
[07:56] <nalioth> reka: no software knowledge needed
[07:56] <dennis_> good to know pfp. thx
[07:56] <IIIEars> nalioth - ubotu likes "encapsulated quotes"
[07:56] <Stargazer> reka: Playing a divx off my cd.. I'm going to try copying the avi to the hard drive.. perhaps it's the cd not having dma enabled or something..  I'm only on a G3 333 powerbook.. so it's not the quickest thing around.
[07:56] <reka> nalioth: uh, i'd assume you would if you're making a package yourself.
[07:56] <anacron> pfp: yeah, but how 'bout exe installs?
[07:57] <reka> Stargazer: yep, DMA is not enabled.
[07:57] <reka> by default on ubuntu
[07:57] <onno> If I install ubuntu or kubuntu on a windows machine. Wil ubuntu resize my harddisk
[07:57] <reka> iirc
[07:57] <nalioth> reka: using "apt-get source -b <pkgname>" you can build your own ubuntu binary (if the proggy you are looking for isnt available as a binary, but the source is
[07:57] <onno> so that windows have a partition and ubuntu
[07:57] <reka> onno: yep, just select the size value of the windows partition and you can resize it.  just make sure you backup your data
[07:57] <anacron> Stargazer: you should enable dma instead copying all your movie files to harddrive :)
[07:58] <nalioth> reka: i run PPC and there are lots of binaries not available for me
[07:58] <reka> onno: the size value in the partitioning stage in ubuntu's install that is.
[07:58] <pfp> anacron: dont know, probably job for wine then
[07:58] <anacron> pfp: yeah, as i said
[07:58] <onno> its on a new computer
[07:58] <reka> reka: see, *you* are the guru on the top of the mountain buddy. :-)
[07:59] <anacron> isn't that a bit weird to say that to yourself
[07:59] <Zzzippo> i must not be burning the linux cds correctly cause they aint booting ;-(
[08:00] <reka> nalioth: : see, *you* are the guru on the top of the mountain buddy. :-)
[08:00] <reka> hehe
[08:00] <reka> anacron: whatchu talkin' 'bout?
[08:01] <Kartagis> is dpkg --ignore-depends=phpmyadmin --instdir=/www a correct syntax
[08:02] <anacron> reka: < reka> reka: <- that
[08:03] <reka> anacron: yes i suppose it was weird wasn't it?
[08:03] <anacron> nah, actually it was somewhat hilarious
[08:03] <IIIEars> Zzzzippo - are you using k3b?
[08:03] <Kartagis> guys, is dpkg --ignore-depends=phpmyadmin --instdir=/www a correct syntax
[08:04] <anacron> reka: it's like faking yourself :D
[08:04] <IIIEars> Zzzzippo - gnomebaker is pretty straightforward
[08:04] <orhs> can anyone help me with installing my WLAN card?
[08:04] <soulfly> anyone know how to build a source package (xorg) with athlon optimization?
[08:05] <reka> anacron: you've never done a typo?
[08:06] <orhs> i got a HP pavilion ze2000
[08:06] <IIIEars> Zzzzippo - if gnomebaker doesn't do it for you i'll buy you lunch. (Is a FAXED flat bread sandwich okay?)
[08:06] <radxx> hmm how do I fix Rhythmbox to play mp3 files? I get the error "There is no element present to handle the stream's mime type application/x-id3
[08:06] <ksoze> hrm...
[08:06] <GazaM> go to synaptic and download the gstreamer-mad plugin
[08:06] <radxx> thanks
[08:07] <zenrox> radxx,  read www.ubuntuguide.org
[08:07] <reka> radxx: wiki/RestricedFormats
[08:07] <anacron> reka: well actually i think i make typo's in every english phrase i write
[08:07] <airox> Hi!
[08:07] <anacron> hello!
[08:07] <GazaM> I agree with zenrox, the ubuntuguide.org is great for this type of thing
[08:07] <Seveas> ubuntuguide is bad
[08:07] <airox> I'm compiling rivatv modules and get an error about wrong GCC version. Would it harm to alter the configure script so it skips this check ?
[08:07] <reka> anacron: well then give me a break please. :-)
[08:08] <anacron> Seveas: why
[08:08] <GazaM> PS, just downloaded vlc, it's far better than totem, mplayer or xine IMO
[08:08] <crimsun> airox: generally a bad idea
[08:08] <Seveas> misinformation, no explanations...
[08:08] <anacron> GazaM: i totally agree
[08:08] <Seveas> and plain errors
[08:08] <airox> Can I paste 4 lines here with the error ?
[08:08] <crimsun> airox: use #flood
[08:08] <GazaM> anacron, what's your opinion on vlc?
[08:08] <mp_> which desktop should one choose with 192Mb RAM - which is lightest, but still useable?
[08:08] <IIIEars> If you get into display trouble or are just stuck at the command line "links" will let you look at ubuntuguide to make things right.
[08:08] <anacron> GazaM: that it's all you need
[08:09] <airox> crimsun: Did you saw it ?
[08:09] <crimsun> airox: you DON'T want to ignore that
[08:09] <GazaM> exactly, it's great
[08:09] <GazaM> ... although the mozilla plugin isn't
[08:09] <airox> crimsun: How would I get it compiled ? Using gcc 3.3.... ?
[08:10] <reka> GazaM: i've heard it's good.  but isn't it gtk1?
[08:10] <wikichipi> hola
[08:10] <GazaM> Guys, in xchat how can I change the colour of my typing... reka, vlc isn't gtk1, i think it's gtk2
[08:10] <reka> mp_: xfce4 is nice.  fluxbox maybe...
[08:10] <wikichipi> hi?
[08:10] <wikichipi> hey
[08:10] <crimsun> airox: correct
[08:11] <reka> GazaM: settings prefs.
[08:11] <wikichipi> there is anyone that can tell me how to install on ubuntu
[08:11] <airox> crimsun: So I should just use the normal GCC that comes with ubuntu ?
[08:11] <GazaM> reka, which setting? I can't change it
[08:11] <wikichipi> ?
[08:11] <mp_> reka: cheers, and wmaker? opinion?
[08:11] <crimsun> airox: no, you should use CC=gcc-3.3 ...
[08:11] <airox> ah oke
[08:11] <GazaM> I've tried
[08:12] <crimsun> airox: familiarise yourself with rivatv's build system and tell it to use gcc-3.3 instead
[08:12] <airox> crimsun: check #flood
[08:12] <reka> interface->colors  (hint: use settings->advanced->textevents to match up the number index with the event you want to change)
[08:12] <reka> mp_: never tried it.
[08:12] <airox> It's the same GCC version now isn't it ?
[08:13] <Kartagis> guys, I want to retrieve a single package to a specific location without retrieving its dependencies. how do I do that?
[08:14] <pfp> Kartagis: you can extract (!= install) packages with dpkg-deb
[08:14] <Seveas> Kartagis, use a browser and go to packages.ubuntu.com
[08:14] <GazaM> Ok I think i did it
[08:14] <GazaM> nope
[08:14] <mp_> reka: ok, thx
[08:15] <GazaM> ok
[08:15] <GazaM> Nope
[08:15] <Kartagis> thanks pfp and Seveas
[08:15] <crimsun> airox: as long as 3.3.5 is used for both, you're fine
[08:15] <anacron> whoa, i seems like my soundservice crashed
[08:16] <anacron> what was the command to kill it?
[08:16] <reka> killall esd
[08:16] <crimsun> you don't need no stinkin sound service anyhow :p
[08:16] <GazaM> Anyone here know how to make gtk1 apps look nicer, I'm using dvd::rip and looking at it is crap
[08:16] <anacron> crimsun: well i'd like to hear something while watching videos
[08:16] <reka> GazaM: did you ask this yesterday?
[08:16] <bob2> GazaM: port it to gtk2
[08:16] <bob2> there's nothing else you can do
[08:17] <GazaM> no
[08:17] <dennis_> can someone tell me how to install linux headers
[08:17] <GazaM> I can't port it to gtk2
[08:17] <reka> GazaM: what bob2 said.  gtk1 apps are ugly.
[08:17] <crimsun> dennis_: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[08:17] <bob2> GazaM: then you'll have to deal, unfortauntely
[08:17] <bob2> GazaM: or use thoggen, which is awesome
[08:17] <crimsun> anacron: is your player configured to use esd?
[08:17] <GazaM> thoggen? I'll check that out now
[08:17] <bob2> (and gtk2)
[08:18] <bob2> you want to find the mmx-enabled theora libs, tho
[08:18] <dennis_> awesome, thanks crimsun
[08:18] <anacron> crimsun: i don't have any idea, but i think so
[08:19] <crimsun> anacron: which player are you using?
[08:19] <anacron> vlc
[08:19] <anacron> killing esd won't work
[08:19] <anacron> maybe i have to kill it by pid
[08:19] <GazaM> bob2, thoggen seems to use gstreamer, which means that I shouldn't really need a thoggen lib, just the gstreamer plugin
[08:19] <onno> is kubuntu as ready as ubuntu?
[08:19] <reka> onno: i'd say so.
[08:19] <crimsun> anacron: install vlc-esd
[08:19] <GazaM> Love the fact that it uses theora
[08:20] <crimsun> anacron: or if you want to use alsa directly, install vlc-alsa
[08:20] <anacron> onno: i'd say as well that no
[08:20] <GazaM> dvd::rip doesn't support it
[08:20] <bob2> GazaM: yes, I said theora, tho
[08:20] <bob2> which gstreamer uses :)
[08:20] <anacron> crimsun: ok
[08:20] <crimsun> anacron: if you want to use vlc-esd, however, esd will need to be running
[08:20] <reka> onno: same thing underneath, just that kubuntu uses kde instead of gnome
[08:20] <Kartagis> Seveas: do I download .deb or source?
[08:20] <anacron> crimsun: can you tell what advantages i have running with alsa and without?
[08:21] <reka> alsa works. :-P
[08:21] <Seveas> Kartagis, .deb
[08:21] <crimsun> anacron: using alsa directly results in better performance (better a/v sync, lower latency, ...)
[08:21] <onno> reka, anacron why would you say no?
[08:21] <crimsun> anacron: however, using alsa directly requires more configuration by the user
[08:21] <GazaM> bob2, nice recomendation, have you used it a lot?
[08:21] <bob2> GazaM: yes
[08:22] <reka> onno: i never said 'no'.
[08:22] <crimsun> anacron: out of the box, esd works for most things
[08:23] <GazaM> So hows the quality, it's still at version 0.3, does it have any major bugs?
[08:23] <anacron> onno: well i changing some themes i lost my taskbar for an exsample
[08:23] <Seveas> judax_away, please turn that off in this channel
[08:23] <bob2> GazaM: gstreamer does all the encoding, thoggen is just a simple gui wrapper for it
[08:23] <anacron> crimsun: so it goes, use alsa if you can?
[08:23] <GazaM> Yes, I guess you're right
[08:24] <BoD_SWAT> bob2, My Ubuntu doesn't recognize my Pioneer DVD drive, and someone pointed out that you may hold the answer.  my problem is also described on       http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34516    (sorry for the pm)
[08:24] <anacron> how can i check out my esd pid?
[08:24] <orhs> what is the command for refreshing the gnome panel?
[08:24] <orhs> reloading*
[08:25] <J0el> how can i write to my ntfs partition?
[08:25] <seth_k> orhs: killall gnome-panel
[08:25] <orhs> seth_k tnx
[08:25] <crimsun> anacron: pgrep esd
[08:25] <reka> J0el: i wouldn't.... not safe afaik
[08:25] <seth_k> J0el: I wouldn't, data corruption is possible
[08:25] <bob2> I'm not going to read the forums at this hour, sorry
[08:25] <seth_k> J0el: if you still want to try, use captive_ntfs
[08:25] <bob2> if you post to the list, I'll try to answer in the morning
[08:25] <r152355g> holaa
[08:25] <bob2> or I'll read that if I remember
[08:26] <J0el> seth_k .. hmm so i guess ill have to convert it back to fat :\
[08:26] <Zzzippo> `
[08:26] <r152355g> hellooooo
[08:26] <anacron> crimsun: that won't do a thing
[08:27] <seth_k> J0el: recommended. No benefits in not using FAT for a windows-linux share partition
[08:27] <crimsun> anacron: then esd isn't running
[08:27] <anacron> crimsun: ok
[08:27] <BoD_SWAT> bob2, my Pioneer dvd reader/writer doesn't work. fstab doens't work and if I do it manually I get "special device hdc does not exist" (btw, which list?)
[08:27] <chombee> I have an IBM laptop and just installed xfce4 on Ubuntu. The keyboard map is all wrong, does anyone know how I can change it? Is there an app out there?
[08:28] <J0el> seth_k i have xp installed on the ntfs part and most of my files are there.
[08:28] <anacron> chombee: loadkeys <keymap you want to load>
[08:29] <J0el> well anyway , is there a way i cud place my home directory some place else like on another drive?
[08:29] <reka> hmmm, how do you scroll the process list in 'top'?  or is that the full list?
[08:29] <anacron> chombee: and you might wan't to change locales too so run dpkg-reconfigure locales
[08:29] <BoD_SWAT> J0el, I really don't recommend writing to NTFS. Just write to FAT32 or ext2/ext3/etc. Reading NTFS isn't a problem (doing it here)
[08:29] <J0el> BoD_SWAT, yea i can read too but cant write , thx for the warning though
[08:30] <GazaM> Could someone tell me what colour my text is?
[08:30] <seth_k> J0el, rather than converting the whole partition, just make a share partition so you can swap files back and forth between OSes
[08:30] <reka> GazaM: colour settings are LOCAL.
[08:30] <anacron> GazaM: :)
[08:30] <anacron> "white"
[08:30] <J0el> Seth_k , yea i might just do that ..thx.
[08:31] <seth_k> J0el, or you could use explore2fs
[08:31] <GazaM> So how come your text is red?
[08:31] <GazaM> Mines just grey
[08:31] <seth_k> J0el, it's a windows program that lets you r/w ext2, ro ext3
[08:31] <reka> seth_k: explore2fs is useful. but could be better.
[08:31] <J0el> seth_k yea ill try that.
[08:31] <seth_k> reka, agreed. I wish it were a driver layer
[08:31] <seth_k> rather than a standalone program
[08:31] <anacron> GazaM: it's local as reka said
[08:32] <reka> i wish it could copy directories :-/
[08:32] <GazaM> ok, doesn't matter anyway
[08:32] <anacron> then why are you asking?
[08:32] <seth_k> reka, still worth a shot if you can't set up a fat partition
[08:32] <GazaM> Because It's a bit annoying that my text is grey
[08:32] <GazaM> I'd rather it be full black
[08:33] <GazaM> But it's a trivial problem
[08:33] <reka> seth_k: true.  just thought i'd vent as i had to copy a lot of files over and hadn't worked out how to use tar and gzip yet. :-)
[08:33] <anacron> GazaM: well we can't say what colour your text is, since we all have our own settings
[08:33] <anacron> except if you use mirc colors
[08:33] <GazaM> I understand that, settings are LOCAL
[08:33] <forsaker8k6> a question: i'm running a 64bit ubuntu system. If i want to compile as a 32 bit application, what can i do?
[08:33] <ksoze> ok, one more ask:
[08:34] <forsaker8k6> *if i want to compile a source
[08:34] <ksoze> any sound recording package that "just works" without much fiddling?
[08:34] <lsuactiafner> forsaker8k6 : cross-compile.. but... a chroot is easier
[08:34] <GazaM> KDE or GNOME, which one is better in peoples opinions?
[08:34] <lsuactiafner> ie, install a 32bit system somewhere and chroot to it
[08:34] <anacron> i support gnome
[08:34] <Burgundavia> GazaM, whatever is better for you. I prefer Gnome
[08:34] <seth_k> GazaM: go to #kubuntu and ask again :D
[08:34] <anacron> but that's just opinion
[08:34] <GazaM> I'm new to linux and use gnome cos of ubuntu, but kde looks very nice
[08:34] <ksoze> I'm a GNOME fan
[08:34] <GazaM> But at the same time I really like gnome
[08:34] <forsaker8k6> ok understood tnx a lot
[08:35] <GazaM> Think I'll stick with gnome
[08:35] <GazaM> Very clean
[08:35] <forsaker8k6> wow another GNOME vs KDE pre-flame
[08:35] <anacron> GazaM: i thought also that kde looks better at first, but now it actually looks worse
[08:35] <radxx> I used Gnome for the first time about 5 years ago and at that time KDE was better, now it's changed and Gnome seems a lot better imo
[08:35] <GazaM> pre-flame? It's just a question
[08:35] <ksoze> but I really want to record my guitar...
[08:35] <forsaker8k6> but we are on #ubuntu.. here we are all gnomist
[08:35] <lsuactiafner> blackbox > all
[08:35] <ksoze> and I'm finding that very..."frontier" territory on ubuntu
[08:35] <lsuactiafner> actually
[08:35] <anacron> forsaker8k6: yeah right :D
[08:35] <reb> hey... im having a problem with upgrading to breezy that im not able to fix on my own
[08:35] <lsuactiafner> blackbox < all.. and thats a good thing
[08:35] <reka> lsuactiafner: that's interesting.  i would have guessed that 32bit apps would work, they just wouldn't make full use of the h/ware.
[08:35] <J0el> GazaM, Gnome looks gr8.
[08:36] <GazaM> ok, but people don't need to have a flame war just cos i asked which people liked
[08:36] <J0el> kde looks messy.. and evrything is named k k  k k  k
[08:36] <lsuactiafner> reka : yeh, i run 32bit appz no problem
[08:36] <reka> lsuactiafner: : sort of like an agp8x card in a 4x slot
[08:36] <forsaker8k6> you should try enlughtenment
[08:36] <forsaker8k6> enlightenment
[08:36] <anacron> GazaM: well it's like you ask if nintendo or playstation is better?
[08:36] <lsuactiafner> ubuntu has thee best emulation of all distros as i understand
[08:36] <GazaM> yeah, i noticed... konquerer, kontact
[08:36] <GazaM> etc
[08:36] <forsaker8k6> it's cool and e17 looks even better
[08:36] <radxx> J0el: yeah, it's Krap ;)
[08:36] <lsuactiafner> enligh' has too many menus ect
[08:36] <firasR> forsaker8k6:  not necessarily, a lot of Kubuntuists hang on out on this channel as well (such as myself) :-)
[08:36] <lsuactiafner> i like plain simple fast interface
[08:36] <GazaM> anacroni like both
[08:37] <lsuactiafner> i only use firefox in the gui
[08:37] <lsuactiafner> am in console...
[08:37] <J0el> yea atleast the naming in Gnome is much sensible.
[08:37] <ksoze> ok, how about this: favorite jukebox app, anyone?
[08:37] <forsaker8k6> what wm are you using lsuactiafner
[08:37] <forsaker8k6> ?
[08:37] <lsuactiafner> mp3blaster (;
[08:37] <lsuactiafner> forsaker8k6 : blackbox
[08:37] <chombee> uhhh. I dunno what to do here. Is there any way to get GNOME to tell me what layout it uses and then set xfce to the same thing?
[08:37] <firasR> forsaker8k6:  however I won't be startin' a flame war about which is better :)
[08:37] <ksoze> I'm using FLAC encoding, not mp3, if it matters
[08:38] <forsaker8k6> firasR, i was just joking :P
[08:38] <anacron> chombee: what do you mean by layout?
[08:38] <forsaker8k6> because GNOME vs KDE is one of the most debated topics on the web i think
[08:38] <anacron> chombee: system -> pref -> themes
[08:38] <J0el> In the live cd when you boot you get to seen an image as the loading screen ,how do i add it to my currently installed system?
[08:38] <firasR> forsaker8k6:  just teasin' back my friend :>
[08:38] <chombee> anacron - the map of which keys cause which characters to appear. Locale. I dunno
[08:38] <forsaker8k6> :)
[08:38] <reka> chombee: US-keyboard?
[08:38] <J0el> do i have to mess with grub there?
[08:39] <chombee> reka - yeah I guess, but its an IBM one
[08:39] <ksoze> so are there other linux distros with better "just works" sound recording?
[08:39] <GazaM> Is anyone here using ubuntu as a first linux distro like myself>
[08:39] <firasR> forsaker8k6:  i can't count how many times i've jumped back and forth between KDE & Gnome
[08:39] <goldfish> GazaM: Yes.
[08:39] <ksoze> I am really hoping to use one box as a nice home demo recording thing - need not be pro-level stuff, but I don't want to spend a ton of time fidgeting with it, either
[08:40] <ksoze> Gazam: first in a long time, although I also have a Fedora box
[08:40] <ksoze> installed both on two machines simultaneously
[08:40] <GazaM> Goldfish and ksoze what do you think of linux so far?
[08:40] <ksoze> I like it, but it still has some "it doesn't matter if you have to tinker a ton, becase we assume that's fun" culture that does nothing for me
[08:40] <forsaker8k6> firasR, i always used Gnome indeed
[08:41] <forsaker8k6> i tryed KDE some time ago.. but i don't liked it
[08:41] <GazaM> ksoze, I agree slightly, but I do like tinkering with config files and the terminal
[08:41] <forsaker8k6> as someone said: too many K
[08:41] <GazaM> It's a learning experience
[08:41] <kano_> hi, i installed nvidia binary drivers + transset
[08:41] <goldfish> GazaM: It rocks.
[08:41] <kano_> should this work with gnome or not?
[08:42] <goldfish> kano_: got xcompmgr?
[08:42] <lxuser> hi every one
[08:42] <reka> ksoze: yeah, having to tweak is annoying, but it's getting better and other benefits outweigh staying with windows
[08:42] <GazaM> goldfish: I agree completely
[08:42] <goldfish> you need xcompmgr to work transset kano_
[08:42] <ksoze> reka: apaprently, not when it comes to sound
[08:42] <ksoze> as I've found that to be a real PITA
[08:42] <lxuser> im from Nicaragua
[08:42] <lxuser> and i need to add some packages to my ubuntu
[08:42] <goldfish> kano_: there is a howto on ubuntuforums.org , search for "compositing"
[08:42] <kano_> ok, that was missing
[08:43] <goldfish> :)
[08:43] <GazaM> I still can't believe that I am getting 1000% more functionality from a free OS than Windows
[08:43] <ksoze> And since it doesn't appear to be the interest of many people here or on the forums, no one really has any answers for me
[08:43] <goldfish> GazaM: ofc, linux rocks.
[08:43] <ksoze> which isn't their fault, of course
[08:43] <ksoze> but has me seriously considering switching OSes
[08:43] <ksoze> as I really do need this to just work
[08:43] <goldfish> lxuser: what packages?
[08:43] <anacron> heh
[08:43] <anacron> finaly i got my sounds back
[08:44] <ksoze> sound works fine...
[08:44] <ksoze> but...
[08:44] <reka> ksoze: so it's sound recording you're trying to fix?
[08:44] <goldfish> ksoze: macs rock for audio stuff, producing etc...
[08:44] <ksoze> No good recording packages do
[08:44] <anacron> vlc was running in somewhere backround stealing soundservice
[08:44] <GazaM> ksoze, have you tried audacity?
[08:44] <ksoze> goldfish: I have no money for another machine
[08:44] <firasR> forsaker8k6:  funny coincidence, they just started a why do u think kde is better at #kubuntu discussion :) hehe
[08:44] <lxuser> java
[08:44] <goldfish> ksoze: ah :/
[08:44] <ksoze> Gazam: it won't play nice with esd
[08:44] <lxuser> java runtime enviroment
[08:44] <ksoze> goldfish: and honestly, I did tons more sound work under Windows
[08:44] <forsaker8k6> firasR, stralol
[08:45] <GazaM> have you tried the guides on ubuntuforums, they worked for me
[08:45] <goldfish> lxuser: www.ubuntuguide.org
[08:45] <geetergod> Whoever can get my sound working, i will give them money :)
[08:45] <GazaM> just make sure you don't have music playing cos audacity uses oss
[08:45] <ksoze> GazaM: well, I'm avoiding that.  Like I said, I was drawnt o ubuntu for "just works" ability
[08:45] <ksoze> and I want both jukebox and recording on the same machine
[08:45] <reka> goldfish: i'd recommend this instead for java install: http://serios.net/content/debian/java/with-java-package.php
[08:45] <asew34> im stuck at 25% at install at the "configuring apt"...im sure you've all been asked, but i cant fix it, can someone please help me?
[08:45] <ksoze> I am trying to make this a unified music box
[08:45] <reka> apparently the ubguide steps suck
[08:45] <GazaM> the guide will allow you to use oss emulation in alsa, trust me the guides not hard, just copy and paste stuff
[08:46] <lxuser> there's alist of packages?
[08:46] <geetergod> reka, is there a way i can just reset everything? even if i lose my stuff? ide do it
[08:46] <airox> Where is the modules.conf in ubuntu ?
[08:46] <crimsun> lxuser: packages.ubuntu.com
[08:46] <ksoze> GazaM: but I can't play music then?
[08:46] <crimsun> airox: don't use modules.conf, it's deprecated
[08:46] <reka> geetergod: did you try that ubguide fix?
[08:46] <GazaM> ksoze, you can, just not when recording from mic
[08:46] <reka> lxuser: http://serios.net/content/debian/java/with-java-package.php
[08:46] <ksoze> what do I have to do?
[08:46] <ksoze> I mean, is it configure every time I switch?
[08:46] <geetergod> reka, i cant seem to get it to work
[08:46] <J0el> how do I set up a graphical bootscreen in ubuntu?
[08:46] <ksoze> because that won't work
[08:47] <GazaM> ksoze, you only have to configure once
[08:47] <reka> geetergod: you followed the steps?
[08:47] <J0el> like the one the live cd has
[08:47] <GazaM> go to the ubuntuforums.org
[08:47] <ksoze> I did
[08:47] <asew34> can someone help me with the install of ubuntu?
[08:47] <geetergod> reka, i lost the link
[08:47] <GazaM> asew34
[08:47] <GazaM> I have that aswell
[08:47] <asew34> were u able to fix it?
[08:47] <GazaM> I'll tell you how to fix it
[08:47] <reka> asew34: how long have you waited? i've seen 3 cases where it starts up again after ~15mins
[08:48] <seth_k> J0el, you want a bootsplash, or a graphical grub menu?
[08:48] <reka> geetergod: http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly
[08:48] <reka> ksoze: that might be helpful if you're desperate
[08:48] <GazaM> At the setup user step, press back before you do it and go straight to install boot loader step
[08:48] <J0el> seth_k, a bootsplash .. if thats what its called.
[08:48] <lxuser> may i program with gambas or anjuta or QtDesign
[08:48] <J0el> not a grub menu.
[08:48] <seth_k> J0el, check out Splashy
[08:48] <GazaM> after reboot it will ask you to insert cd, it will say it's not a ubuntu cd, just select http
[08:49] <GazaM> then you can setup user and all
[08:49] <seth_k> J0el, http://wiki.nanofreesoft.org/index.php/Splashy
[08:49] <J0el> seth_k, its a package?
[08:49] <asew34> i tried that
[08:49] <GazaM> worked for me
[08:49] <J0el> seth_k, hrm k.
[08:49] <ksoze> reka: I guess I'm confused.  If the sound is bad, why is it in the distrib?
[08:49] <seth_k> J0el, there are sources there to add to your sources.list
[08:49] <asew34> but i need to configure PPPoe for my internet to use http?
[08:49] <seth_k> J0el, then apt-get install splashy
[08:49] <Amaranth> http://www.realistanew.com/dsc_097.jpg <--iowa is fun!
[08:50] <J0el> seth_k,  k ill try that. thx.
[08:51] <reka> ksoze: i agree, sound needs work.  but those instructions should fix problems with multiple apps using sound, something you might be having trouble with.
[08:52] <amonkey> at the console, how can i find out the current throughput of eth0?
[08:52] <nalioth> reka are we compiling the world now?'
[08:52] <lxuser>  may i program with gambas or anjuta or QtDesign?
[08:52] <Amaranth> yeah, you can use those
[08:52] <Amaranth> you can just use gedit or vim too
[08:52] <ksoze> reka: my main problem is simply that no recording app works
[08:52] <ksoze> audacity hates esd
[08:52] <reka> nalioth: hehe no.  i'm marvelling at the number of people with sound problems
[08:53] <ksoze> but killing esd every time I want to record seems no fun
[08:53] <crimsun> ksoze: that's being addressed for breezy
[08:53] <reka> thank god
[08:53] <ksoze> I sure hope so
[08:54] <ksoze> I mean, sound is what this box is for, first and foremost
[08:54] <ksoze> but breezy is about wht, 4 months away?
[08:54] <JDahl> lxuser, for small programs, there's probably not much gained by using Anjute etc. - it takes time to understand and appreciate a complicated IDE
[08:54] <nalioth> reka: ya send a distro out where the sound daemon is precocious, and this is what happens
[08:54] <Pithlit> guys... how do I add a module to boot ?
[08:54] <lxuser> so whats your advice
[08:55] <ksoze> hrm
[08:55] <smallfoot-> when is cd shipped?
[08:55] <ksoze> I have no idea what to do here
[08:55] <crimsun> ksoze: you could configure all your apps to use alsa directly, for instance
[08:55] <ksoze> I really don't want to nuke the install, but music is pretty important to me
[08:55] <Burgundavia> ksoze, breezy is going to be released in Oct, so yes
[08:55] <HappyFool> Pithlit: not sure what you mean, but you can add it to /etc/modules if you just want it to be loaded during boot
[08:55] <JDahl> lxuser, use a simple editor, e.g., gedit, and compile programs directly with gcc
[08:55] <reka> nalioth: i've lost count of the number of times i've directed people to ubguides soundfix and telling them to change the output plugin in xmms
[08:55] <crimsun> ksoze: then configure gstreamer-properties to use alsa as the default audio sink
[08:55] <Pithlit> HappyFool: you understood me
[08:55] <Pithlit> thanks
[08:55] <ksoze> ugh
[08:55] <crimsun> ksoze: it's really not a big step
[08:56] <ksoze> I'm your target demographics, folks.  I have no idea how to do what you're talking about
[08:56] <ksoze> and when breezy arrives, will I need to undo it?
[08:56] <crimsun> ksoze: no, you won't need to undo it when breezy is installed/upgraded onto your machine
[08:56] <lxuser> im talkin about real appliactions with db like programing with visual basic
[08:56] <crimsun> there are how-tos on the forum and on ubuntuguide if you wish to read them
[08:57] <nalioth> reka: me too, hopefully there is a more responsible daemon in breezy
[08:57] <ksoze> what are they listed under?
[08:57] <reka> ksoze: you do realise that part of using linux is the fiddly stuff?  which can be either good or bad depending on the person.
[08:57] <dulouz> hi folks, question about uninstalling something. Rythmbox that comes with Ubuntu uses GStreamer. I want to use Xine, which means building from source. If i select Rhythmbox to uninstall it says it wants to uninstall ubuntu-desktop as well. ubuntu-desktop says it's safe to uninstall but recommends not to. so would it be better to uninstall Rhythmbox and ubuntu-desktop, or just build Rhythmbox from source and install to someplace like
[08:57] <dulouz> /usr/local/share?
[08:57] <crimsun> I'm happy to walk you through the process, but I need to grab lunch after talking with my manager
[08:57] <ksoze> reka: well, like I said, I was drawn by the "just works" mantra
[08:57] <ksoze> I guess I underestimated the fiddling angle
[08:57] <rZr> is there a package to make appear disk volume on desktop ?
[08:57] <ksoze> I have a lot of stuff that I want to do, and I don't want the time cut into by fiddling
[08:58] <ksoze> crimsun: don't worry about it, but thanks
[08:58] <nalioth> ksoze: if you don't want to fiddle, use <ugh> linspire
[08:58] <smallfoot-> please when my ubnutu cd come in my home??
[08:59] <smallfoot-> i order it many many time long ago before!!
[08:59] <reka> ksoze: i understand.  what can i say? it's a sales pitch ... but compared to other distros, ubuntu's support is great.  i mean people are willing to help you out in here are they not? crimsun for one.
[08:59] <ksoze> nalioth: even I know better than that
[08:59] <ksoze> reka: no, I agree.  I guess I'm just a little crankier than I shoudl be.
[08:59] <lxuser> im talkin about real appliactions with db like programing with visual basic
[08:59] <ksoze> I had the wrong set of expectations
[08:59] <slept>  is there a way to create the initrd image  for the precompiled kernels ?
[08:59] <thenuke> Help! "Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libc/libcairo/libcairo1_0.3.0-1_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch.  E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?"
[09:00] <ksoze> I suggest they change the sales pitch :)
[09:00] <crimsun> thenuke: known issue: don't use us. or ca.
[09:00] <crimsun> thenuke: any other mirror should be fine
[09:00] <Mez> hmm
[09:00] <HappyFool> lxuser: you can try gambas -- it's supposed to be visual-basic like, and it's in Hoary's universe repository
[09:00] <JDahl> lxuser, I probably missed part of your question... are you asking how to develop DB applications under Linux?
[09:00] <Mez> I really ought to like - resize windows or something
[09:00] <Mez> but it's such a pain in the arse to do
[09:00] <Mez> it hates me doing it
[09:00] <reka> ksoze: or put one of those fine print things: "may require fiddling" :-] 
[09:01] <thenuke> crimsun: so to what I change those US?
[09:01] <HappyFool> lxuser: or you can try python, which is a similar level of language, and also has DB interfaces
[09:01] <Mez> I'm very tempted to delete it all together.
[09:01] <ksoze> reka: then you're no better than the commercial weenies.  :)
[09:01] <Mez> but i know I'd kick myself for it
[09:01] <thenuke> crimsun: I live in europe/Finland
[09:01] <RzR> is there a package to make appear disk volume on desktop ?
[09:01] <J0el> Is there any software i could use a remote control for xawtv?
[09:01] <reka> ksoze: take that back! :-)
[09:01] <Stargazer> Anyone know what might be causing white shimmering pixels all over my videos when watching them..I'm using 5.04 PPC on a G3.. I switched colour depths from 24 to 16 with no luck..
[09:02] <HappyFool> RzR: my impression is that usb sticks / cd-roms / etc already do that
[09:02] <JDahl> lxuser, HappyFool, there's even a Delphi version for Linux, isn't there?
[09:02] <Stargazer> Also my mouse sometimes leaves behind pixel garbage when moving it.
[09:02] <HappyFool> RzR: for hard drive partitions, you can just create shortcuts (or launchers, or whatever they're called), i imagine
[09:02] <J0el> or just one that would acept commands from my remote controller ? .
[09:02] <HappyFool> JDahl: yeah, kylix i think
[09:02] <ksoze> reka: sorry
[09:02] <HappyFool> JDahl: that's more pascal though -- slightly lower level than vb / python, i would've thought
[09:02] <ksoze> reka: so is there a jukebox app that fits the "just works" criterion?
[09:03] <Ubuntian> to create "/mnt/blabla" as an empty mount point, can I just "sudo mkdir /mnt/blabla ?
[09:03] <crimsun> thenuke: try archive in sweden
[09:03] <onno> Would you install ubuntu or kubuntu or mandrake for some one who nows nothing of GNU/Linux?
[09:03] <seth_k> Ubuntian: yep
[09:03] <Ubuntian> thanks
[09:03] <HappyFool> ksoze: sorry to come into the conversation late, but what's a jukebox app ? something different from rhythmbox / xmms, i take it?
[09:03] <ksoze> crimsun: I don't need a walk-through, but where is the article?
[09:03] <Seveas> onno, newbies should not use mandrake :)
[09:03] <thenuke> crimsun: ookey, thank you
[09:03] <reka> ksoze: beep-media-player
[09:04] <JDahl> HappyFool, he was asking for VB :-)
[09:04] <ksoze> HappyFool: something that will take a big colelction of FLAC-encoded songs and play them for me in whatever order
[09:04] <onno> why not mandrak?
[09:04] <nalioth> Seveas: not only to stay away from the RPM hell, either
[09:04] <Ubuntian> true mandriva was my first distro and i still have nightmares about it
[09:04] <penguinparty> anyone know how to search on the "notes" field in the thunderbird address book?
[09:04] <seth_k> ksoze: beep-media-player, rhythmbox, amaroK if you're on kubuntu
[09:04] <ksoze> JDahl: no I wasn't.  That was someone else.  :)
[09:04] <Seveas> mandrake is much more difficult than ubuntu
[09:04] <HappyFool> ksoze: err, dunno what flac is, but rhythmbox plays my mp3 collection just fine. i would guess if there's a flac gstreamer library it should work
[09:04] <Seveas> rpm hell indeed
[09:04] <slept> Seveas, there is no rea
[09:04] <slept> sorry
[09:04] <ksoze> HappyFool: lossless codec.  I am not an MP3 fan
[09:05] <nalioth> onno: different linux distros use differnet packaging methods for their software
[09:05] <Seveas> flac is good, very good
[09:05] <seth_k> ksoze: gstreamer0.8-flac is the lib you need
[09:05] <ksoze> seht_k/reka: looks like I'll try beep
[09:05] <reka> ksoze:actually, you'll need to fiddle with bmp as well: you might have to change the output plugin from the default "oss"
[09:05] <reka> :-)
[09:05] <ksoze> good lord
[09:05] <Grim76> Quick question:  I am doing apt-get install for several packages, and I keep getting md5sum errors on some packages is everyone getting that or am I using the wrong mirrors?
[09:05] <HappyFool> ksoze: well, try gstreamer0.8-flac and rhythmbox
[09:05] <seth_k> grim76: us and ca mirrors are wack
[09:05] <nalioth> onno: mandrake uses the RPM system, which provides valuable linux lessons (the diffecult, curse filled lessons)
[09:05] <seth_k> grim76: use archive.ubuntu.com for now
[09:06] <nalioth> Grim76: lots of md5 errors the last couple days
[09:06] <HappyFool> ksoze: use synaptic to install the flac library; rhythmbox is already installed with ubuntu
[09:06] <nalioth> Grim76: i don't know why
[09:06] <Seveas> nalioth, very valuable lessons in how not to design a packaging system
[09:06] <ksoze> I need to approach this when I have a lot more patience.
[09:06] <Ubuntian> guys you know what?
[09:06] <Ubuntian> NFS works!
[09:06] <slept> Seveas,  got the wrong key wated to press  delete not enter after I read "not" which I missed the first time
[09:06] <Mez> wewt! ?
[09:06] <Ubuntian> o my godness i'm so happy
[09:06] <onno> but would you give gnome or kde?
[09:06] <nalioth> Seveas: mandrake and redhat taught me a lot about linux
[09:06] <seth_k> grim76: us and ca mirrors were down for about 1h15m yesterday
[09:06] <ksoze> happyfool: where is rhythmbox?
[09:06] <seth_k> grim76: don't know why
[09:06] <Mez> calm down ubuntian - you dont wanna dirty your keyboard
[09:06] <seth_k> ksoze: might be preinstalled and called "Music Player"
[09:06] <Ubuntian> lol
[09:06] <reka> ksoze: it's already installed
[09:06] <HappyFool> ksoze: Applications -> Sound and video -> Music Player
[09:07] <Seveas> seth_k, / Grim76 us and ca still give errors
[09:07] <ksoze> ahh...Music Player
[09:07] <nalioth> Seveas: a lot of "use debian instead" lessons
[09:07] <Grim76> seth_k, ok thanks I appreciate it.  I will work my sources.list over.
[09:07] <HappyFool> ksoze: sorry, i guess i could've called it 'Music Player' ;)
[09:07] <Seveas> it's known and worked on
[09:07] <ksoze> I assumed that was just some basic thing
[09:07] <Mez> seth_k
[09:07] <reka> ksoze: another thing to worry about: double labelling for the same program
[09:07] <Mez> is that who i think it is?
[09:07] <reka> :-)
[09:07] <lxuser> o yeah Kylix i mean
[09:07] <seth_k> seveas, what was the cause?
[09:07] <lxuser> but its supported by Ubuntu
[09:07] <lxuser> ???
[09:07] <Seveas> seth_k, ENOIDEA
[09:07] <J0el> How can i set shortcut keys to specific operations like ctrl+x for 3ddesktop?
[09:07] <seth_k> no touchee
[09:07] <seth_k> :P
[09:08] <J0el> or any other operation.
[09:08] <onno> What do you think is better for an older person who is new to GNU/Linux Gnome or KDE?
[09:08] <ksoze> reka: heh
[09:08] <ksoze> same old linux :)
[09:08] <Seveas> onno, Gnome, definitely gnome
[09:08] <ksoze> I haven't had my own linux box since 1998
[09:08] <Seveas> gnome is clear, easy and not easy to mess up
[09:08] <onno> ok I install gnome then
[09:08] <ksoze> the more things change...
[09:08] <ksoze> :)
[09:08] <Seveas> KDE is over-configurable and very easy to create a mess with
[09:08] <sniper_> french here?
[09:08] <nalioth> onno: KDE is more familiar if you are coming from windoze, and gnome is more after the macOS look
[09:08] <Seveas> sniper_, #ubuntu-fr
[09:09] <sniper_> ok
[09:09] <sniper_> thx
[09:09] <nalioth> sniper_: #ubuntu-fr
[09:09] <dulouz> onno: i had been using KDE running on SuSE for the last year. Ubuntu + Gnome seems a lot less troublesome for a simple desktop
[09:09] <ksoze> it looks like Sound Juicer can encode FLAC by default...
[09:09] <ksoze> but Music Player can't play FLAC?
[09:09] <seth_k> ksoze: did you install gstreamer0.8-flac ?
[09:09] <reka> nalioth: Seveas is fast isn't he?
[09:10] <ksoze> seth_k: not consciously, no :)
[09:10] <HappyFool> lxuser: it doesn't look like kylix is in the ubuntu repositories; you may need to install it by other means
[09:10] <ksoze> I'll check adn see if it's there
[09:10] <Seveas> HappyFool, iirc the licensing of kylix makes a .deb package impossible
[09:11] <ksoze> seth_k: yeah, it's installed.  It must have come along for th ride when I brought down Audacity and ardour to try out.
[09:11] <HappyFool> Seveas: their loss
[09:11] <Seveas> HappyFool, indeed
[09:11] <RzR> HappyFool: .. and what about adding entries to fstab ?
[09:12] <RzR> HappyFool: this requiere "advanced" unix skills :)
[09:12] <Seveas> *gasp* just cleaned out a 2-month backlog of bills :)
[09:12] <HappyFool> RzR: sorry, a little more context? What do you want to do ?
[09:12] <lxuser> i had installed Kylix in SuSE and think there is nothing different from one distro to another, isnt it?
[09:12] <Seveas> some companies will now stop sending letters :)
[09:12] <HappyFool> lxuser: how did you install it in suse?
[09:12] <nalioth> RzR: iirc, adding to sources.list takes a simple text editor
[09:12] <RzR> HappyFool: i hoped a noob can access his windows drives through his desktop
[09:13] <CarlFK> lxuser - Kylix is sitll alive?!
[09:13] <seth_k> RzR: http://ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs
[09:13] <onno> ok I'm installing ubuntu for this person!
[09:13] <HappyFool> RzR: you can easily cause youe windows partitions to be mounted (ie., made available) on boot
[09:13] <CarlFK> lxuser - I checked it out a few years ago - looked pretty cool
[09:13] <HappyFool> RzR: then you just need to create desktop launchers for the partitions
[09:14] <HappyFool> RzR: note that NTFS is read-only from linux
[09:14] <RzR> well i know how to do that
[09:14] <ksoze> ok, so I'm FLAC encoding a CD now, and we'll see if rhythmbox works
[09:14] <RzR> but a n00b will not handle to RTFM and lunch an editor
[09:14] <ksoze> if so, that's a big positive
[09:14] <HappyFool> RzR: ok, what's the question? You want to know what the fstab line is?
[09:14] <RzR> no
[09:14] <nalioth> onno: you are a good person
[09:14] <RzR> I know how to fix it
[09:15] <ksoze> if it plays, I'll be more willing to compromise on recording for a little while.
[09:15] <HappyFool> RzR: you're saying it should automagically happen for the benefit of those who can't edit fstab?
[09:15] <RzR> but a newbee complains about that
[09:15] <RzR> HappyFool: exactly
[09:15] <raz> I want to uninstall mplayer, but the Add/Remove never loads. Is there a way to do it using the terminal?
[09:15] <onno> On this computer ther is one windows, fresh install... How do I repartition it so that 40 GB and 40 GB ubuntu is
[09:15] <seth_k> raz: sudo aptitude remove mplayer-386
[09:16] <nalioth> raz: sudo apt-get remove mplayer
[09:16] <Seveas> remove --purge that is :)
[09:16] <flodine> ok guys tried everything but ubuntu wont take my screen resolution now what
[09:16] <HappyFool> RzR: hrm. maybe. it's not entirely simple -- in some situations (for security/privacy) one might not want that to happen
[09:16] <RzR> question 2 reported : what to install to using totem to read divx (or any weird codec)
[09:16] <seth_k> Seveas: if using aptitude, use simply aptitude purge and not aptitude remove --purge
[09:16] <ksoze> flodine: what everything did you try?
[09:16] <RzR> HappyFool: that's what i thought too , but u know what i mean
[09:16] <Seveas> seth_k, indeed :)
[09:16] <flodine> everything google offered
[09:16] <ksoze> including editing xorg.conf?
[09:17] <flodine> edit shit all day
[09:17] <flodine> still no dice
[09:17] <onno> On this computer ther is one windows, fresh install... How do I repartition it so that 40 GB and 40 GB ubuntu is
[09:17] <ksoze> well it's hard for me to know the deal, if you know what I mean
[09:17] <lxuser> ./install_fg
[09:17] <lxuser> jejeje
[09:17] <HappyFool> RzR: a utility to do that would be useful. i'm afraid i don't have enough desire to write it though ;)
[09:17] <RzR> same here :)
[09:18] <CarlFK> lxuser - Kylix is sitll alive?!
[09:18] <lxuser> but your rigth its a little old
[09:18] <nalioth> onno: is the windows install NTFS?
[09:18] <RzR> fdisk -l | sed | awk > /etc/fstab :)
[09:18] <lxuser> its alive cause its still in the Borland Site
[09:19] <flodine> is there anyone in here on 1900x1200 that can help me get this befora i format ubuntu
[09:19] <ksoze> 1900x1200?
[09:19] <ksoze> wide screen?
[09:19] <onno> nalioth, yes
[09:19] <flodine> yes
[09:19] <Seveas> RzR, excellent idea!
[09:19] <Seveas> i'm gonna write one now
[09:19] <onno> what should I choise for repartition?
[09:19] <raz> Want to uninstall Mplayer. Did not install it with Synaptics. Followed guide to 'make' it. Any easy way to remove it from the system?
[09:19] <ksoze> what monitor and video card?
[09:20] <onno> isn't ntfs a proble?
[09:20] <nalioth> onno: then unless you want to reinstall windoze, you'll need partition magic to move partitions
[09:20] <whimsy> onno: the safest solution for you is to use partition magic
[09:20] <seth_k> raz, ohhhh, you built it from source
[09:20] <CarlFK> lxuser - how may other people do you know that are using it? (know personaly or even just know of)
[09:20] <nalioth> onno: if you know you are installing windoze into a dual boot machine, install windoze as fat32 filesystem
[09:20] <flodine> ksoze nvidia geforce 6200 and a dell 2405fpw 24 inch
[09:21] <seth_k> raz: if you still have your source dir available, you might try sudo make uninstall
[09:21] <geetergod> Is there someone in here that can help me with my sound?
[09:21] <catgermany> hi
[09:21] <nalioth> raz: you should check out "checkinstall" for future compiling projects
[09:21] <ksoze> flodine: and you've included all of the resolutions in the xorg.conf?
[09:21] <catgermany> anybody can help me?
[09:21] <nalioth> raz: it makes debs so as to keep track of what all is installed
[09:21] <ksoze> catgermany: depends.  what's the issue?
[09:22] <catgermany> today i bought a DVD Writer LG
[09:22] <flodine> yes
[09:22] <Stargazer> Ok.. Sound and video play in Totem for divx but the video is alwfully jumpy.. Now in VLC the video is smooth, but no sound will play.. what needs to be done?
[09:22] <seth_k> raz: to use checkinstall, simply replace "sudo make install" with "sudo checkinstall" after installing the checkinstall package
[09:22] <catgermany> it's extern und with usb
[09:22] <flodine> ksoze yes sir
[09:22] <ksoze> hrm...
[09:22] <geetergod> anyone that can help me with my sound it'd be greatly appreciated
[09:23] <catgermany> and wenn i want to copy with k3b
[09:23] <flodine> ksoze it on goes to 1600x1200
[09:23] <seth_k> geetergod, what issue are you having?
[09:23] <ksoze> but did you add in 1900x1200?
[09:23] <geetergod> seth_k, my sound is gone
[09:23] <catgermany> i have this error
[09:23] <flodine> ksoze even if i include 1900x1200
[09:23] <geetergod> seth_k, its acting like theres something else open is why the sound wont work
[09:23] <catgermany> input/output error.Not necessarily serious
[09:23] <geetergod> seth_k, ive tried just about everything there is to try
[09:24] <ksoze> flodine: then maybe someone else here knows better.  I troubleshot my own video problem witht eh xorg.conf
[09:24] <ivoks> doh!
[09:24] <ivoks> is here anyone from backports team?!
[09:24] <Memedhi_sawah> ono seng iso boso jowo raaaaaaaaaa
[09:24] <seth_k> poke Mez, he makes backports
[09:24] <flodine> dont trip ksoze headed back to suse 9.3 it works there
[09:24] <ivoks> seth_k: thanks
[09:24] <Memedhi_sawah> kok gak ada nick cew yaaa
[09:25] <Mez> ivoks, I make backports, but not part of the team
[09:25] <catgermany> my dmesg is
[09:25] <ivoks> ok
[09:25] <ksoze> No tripping here
[09:25] <ivoks> where can team be contacted?
[09:25] <ksoze> I am fairly new to ubuntu
[09:25] <lxuser> Well in Nicaragua just a little group
[09:25] <catgermany> usb 4-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4
[09:25] <catgermany> scsi1 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
[09:25] <catgermany> usb-storage: device found at 4
[09:25] <catgermany> usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning
[09:25] <catgermany>   Vendor: HL-DT-ST  Model: DVDRAM GSA-5163D  Rev: A102
[09:25] <catgermany>   Type:   CD-ROM                             ANSI SCSI revision: 00
[09:25] <catgermany> sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 40x/40x writer dvd-ram cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
[09:25] <catgermany> Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
[09:25] <ksoze> just trying to help out, since others here have helped me
[09:25] <catgermany> Attached scsi generic sg0 at scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0,  type 5
[09:25] <catgermany> usb-storage: device scan complete
[09:25] <Stargazer> How does one get vlc to play mp3's?
[09:26] <catgermany> anybody can help me?
[09:26] <lxuser> really little maybe all are in the National University of Engeenerin
[09:26] <Memedhi_sawah> someone can help mee...
[09:26] <Jormundgand> Stargazer: gstreamer0.8-mad
[09:26] <nalioth> Stargazer: did you not see ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats   ?
[09:27] <nalioth> Stargazer: this question was answered earlier for you
[09:29] <JDahl> lxuser, maybe Python, as happyfool suggested, would be worth checking out...
[09:29] <HappyFool> JDahl: is it good cop / bad cop night? ;-)
[09:29] <BurgerMann> Hi. Does anyone know how to change the charset in MySQL?
[09:30] <nalioth> HappyFool: good cop? is there such a thing?
[09:30] <JDahl> HappyFool, hehe... it sure looks like it :P
[09:30] <lxuser> ok i will try it
[09:30] <Seveas> catgermany, do not paste in here
[09:30] <lxuser> do you know LinEX
[09:31] <lxuser> its a Spanish Distro
[09:31] <BurgerMann> Hmn, Does anyone know anyone who knows how to change charset in MySQL?
[09:31] <HappyFool> BurgerMann: tried #mysql ?
[09:31] <BurgerMann> HappyFool, trying atm
[09:32] <nalioth> BurgerMann: if anyone knows, they will answer. give it a few minutes tween the same question
[09:32] <crimsun> ksoze: I don't think there's an "article," but ubuntuguide has the steps
[09:32] <seth_k> burgermann: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/charset-conversion.html
[09:33] <raz> my "add/remove progs" window doesn't show the apps.. keeps the mouse busy.. any ideas?
[09:33] <nalioth> raz: use synaptic
[09:33] <nalioth> raz: the "add/remove' is kinda limited
[09:33] <seth_k> burgermann: basically use ALTER TABLE `foo` MODIFY COLUMN `thiscolumn` CHARACTER SET `mynewset`
[09:33] <raz> nalioth, aighty.. but it aint normal, is it..?
[09:34] <BurgerMann> Oh
[09:34] <sladen> hi lxuser.  The next version of LinEx will be based on Ubuntu
[09:34] <BurgerMann> seth_k, thanx =D
[09:34] <nalioth> raz: i've never had any luck with the add/remove thing
[09:34] <RzR> Seveas: knoppix provide a such script
[09:35] <lxuser> it will be super because Ubuntu install in auto but LinEX its imposible to start the gdm
[09:35] <Seveas> RzR, mine is almost finished alreasy, it is easier for me to create one than to loke it up
[09:35] <Seveas> look*
[09:35] <ksoze> crimsun: ok
[09:35] <ksoze> well, on the positive, the jukebox stuff works beautifully
[09:36] <concept10> Why does synaptic and apt keep reminding me: Warning: The following packages cannot be authenticated!  whats up with people not sigining these packages?
[09:36] <RzR> Seveas: keep in touch if you release it :)
[09:36] <ksoze> so all I really need to troubleshoot is recording
[09:36] <nalioth> concept10: they're lazy?
[09:36] <ksoze> and then I can throw in a huge hard disk and start ripping.  :)
[09:36] <HappyFool> concept10: are they ubuntu (main, restricted, uni- or multiverse) packages ?
[09:37] <concept10> Ubuntu is nice, I might be staying with this distro - I need to install development packages though. I love the fast boot
[09:37] <ksoze> I now have three boxes
[09:37] <ksoze> one ubuntu, one fedora, onw windows.
[09:38] <ksoze> one, even
[09:38] <concept10> HappyFool, Im not sure yet.  Im trying to get a understanding of Ubuntu's repositories
[09:38] <lxuser> im agree with concept10
[09:38] <mic_> Ubuntu is my first foray into linux and so far I am really liking it with one little issue
[09:38] <nalioth> ksoze: so you meant to say you had 2 boxes and one doorstop, yes?
[09:38] <concept10> Whats your issue?
[09:38] <ksoze> nalioth: hey, I need wireless on one,  Don't get me started :)
[09:38] <lxuser> i got in my PC suse, ubuntu and XP
[09:39] <ksoze> mic_: sound?
[09:39] <mic_> I have linksys wireless pci card and ubuntu loses the settings when I reboot
[09:39] <concept10> hmm...
[09:39] <ksoze> ahh...wireless
[09:39] <HappyFool> concept10: the ubuntu packages *should* all be signed, afaik
[09:39] <lxuser> mmm i have no experiences with wireless :(
[09:39] <concept10> It must be the last repo on the list (backports?)
[09:39] <mic_> rt2500 is the chipset,I followed the instructions from ubuntuguide.org but still lose the settings on reboot
[09:39] <ksoze> nalioth: also, sound recording works on the Windows box :)
[09:40] <slept> how can you ssh to the livecd ? ssh ubuntu@ip doesn't work (without password) :(
[09:40] <nalioth> ksoze: it works on my OSX boxen, too, and i'm not wading in #*R#ER)$ while using it
[09:40] <crimsun> ksoze: start by describing what sound chipset you have
[09:40] <nalioth> slept: don't thing sshd is running on the livecd
[09:40] <ksoze> crimsun: It's not that complex.  The issue is just that audacity doesn't like esd
[09:40] <HappyFool> concept10: possibly. i'm not sure
[09:40] <ksoze> if a package did, it'd be no biggie
[09:41] <concept10> Everything just works with Ubuntu right out the box, very good for desktop use. Printer setup 3 secs.  Now I have to try getting this wireless working
[09:41] <ksoze> otherwise, I have to get audacity to use something else
[09:41] <ksoze> nalioth: granted - just have no Mac budget
[09:41] <slept> nalioth, oh should have thought about that
[09:41] <concept10> I just hope Ubuntu will be around for awhile
[09:41] <ksoze> I can play sounds just fine - just got done doing fun stuff with the Music Player
[09:42] <mic_> wireless on my laptop worked straight off it's the desktop card that's giving me trouble
[09:42] <nalioth> ksoze: they're $499 msrp (means they're cheaper if you can find them)
[09:42] <concept10> Oh, question: Does anyone have the problem where Firefox reports the wrong version #?
[09:42] <ksoze> nalitoh: a price without a monitor isn't a price.  :)
[09:42] <ksoze> and mind you, I'm no Mac hater
[09:42] <geetergod> Can someone help me with my sound, i think i can show you the problem
[09:42] <ksoze> I used to have a PowerBook for years
[09:43] <nalioth> concept10: fix it using about:config in the url box. change the vendorsub line to 1.0.4
[09:43] <geetergod> and you'd understand it more than me
[09:43] <ksoze> I just aon't going out to buy a machie to replace a functioning machine for some sort of loyalty oath :)
[09:43] <nalioth> ksoze: that price is a bargain. you use your doorstop in front of an actual door once you buy a mac mini
[09:44] <ksoze> oh please
[09:44] <ksoze> I'm not doing it, so you can turn off the advocacy script.  :)
[09:44] <ksoze> I have nothing against macs.  Just don't have any reason to spend money ona  new system.
[09:44] <geetergod> Can i message someone and show them what it says when i type esd in root?
[09:44] <ksoze> if I could switch to OSX on an existing box, I would
[09:44] <nalioth> more business
[09:45] <ksoze> Apple doesn't let me do that, so there ya go
[09:45] <crimsun> ksoze: what is your default_options line in /etc/esound/esd.conf?
[09:46] <geetergod> can anyone explain something to me?
[09:46] <kengur> depends
[09:46] <concept10> nalioth_wrkn, are they going to release a official package for that or just wait to the next firefox release?
[09:46] <HappyFool> geetergod: try asking specific questions in channel
[09:47] <ksoze> crimsun: empty
[09:47] <ksoze> default_options=
[09:47] <ksoze> that's it
[09:47] <geetergod> Happyfool, when i type esd in root i get a message but might be a little big for here
[09:47] <schuma> holaaa buenas
[09:47] <geetergod> and my sounds not working and it might be saying why
[09:47] <schuma> hi.!.
[09:47] <crimsun> ksoze: the parameters for spawn_options should be copied to default_options
[09:47] <HappyFool> geetergod: put it up on a pastebin, e.g., http://rafb.net/paste/
[09:47] <geetergod> k
[09:47] <HappyFool> geetergod: then paste the url here
[09:48] <crimsun> ksoze: then try restarting esd
[09:48] <schuma> i speakin spanish
[09:48] <ksoze> crimsun: is this for audacity to work?
[09:48] <HappyFool> geetergod: i'm not a sound guru (mine Just Works (TM) ) but i'll take a look
[09:48] <crimsun> ksoze: it's an attempt to see if esd will in fact release /dev/dsp, which would allow audacity to use it
[09:48] <nobile> schuma, hola
[09:48] <geetergod> http://pastebin.com/299029
[09:48] <ksoze> gotcha
[09:48] <geetergod> there ya be
[09:48] <schuma> hola nobile..
[09:48] <vicks> it seems like i don't have a cups server running. what is the exact way to check if it's running?
[09:49] <schuma> nobile: tngo problema al instalar el desklest
[09:49] <HappyFool> geetergod: ok, looks like esd is already running
[09:49] <nobile> si necesitas ayuda en espanol, busca #ubuntu-es
[09:49] <nobile> =)
[09:49] <geetergod> Happyfool, i dont know where esd is running though
[09:49] <HappyFool> geetergod: try 'pgrep esd' and see if you get a respone
[09:49] <slept> Got a big  problem : kernel-panic : not syncing : VFS : unable to mount rootfs . It's the second kernel I tried both are precompiled - any ideas ?
[09:49] <nobile> =P
[09:49] <ksoze> crimsun: best esd restart method?
[09:49] <geetergod> happyfool, no response, should i type it in root?
[09:49] <HappyFool> geetergod: you should see a number, probably in the thousands (i get 6956)
[09:50] <HappyFool> geetergod: no, you don't have to be root, i don't think
[09:50] <HappyFool> geetergod: hm
[09:50] <geetergod> k
[09:50] <geetergod> happyfool, i get no response then
[09:50] <HappyFool> that means that esd probably *isn't* running
[09:50] <crimsun> ksoze: easiest is probably ,,pkill esd'' then restarting it manually (from Terminal)
[09:50] <konrad> Hi, I need wuick answer - what is default linux-headers after Ubuntu installation?
[09:50] <ksoze> but when I restart it form terminal, it never exits...
[09:50] <crimsun> konrad: linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[09:50] <konrad> or another - apt-get comman will be nice :)
[09:50] <crimsun> ksoze: esd &
[09:50] <ksoze> ok
[09:51] <ksoze> ok, restarted
[09:51] <konrad> crimsun: thanks
[09:51] <ksoze> now let's see what audacity thinks
[09:51] <HappyFool> geetergod: i'm not sure how to clean this up, but i would guess erasing that socket ought to do it
[09:51] <Stargazer> Is there a graphic gui for mplayer under Ubuntu to download from one of the repositories?
[09:51] <HappyFool> geetergod: try 'rm /tmp/.esd/socket'
[09:51] <geetergod> happyfool, thats what i was thinking
[09:51] <ksoze> oooh.
[09:52] <ksoze> no complaints yet
[09:52] <geetergod> rm: cannot remove `/tmp/.esd/socket': No such file or directory
[09:52] <ksoze> crimsun: ok, that was pretty cool  :)
[09:52] <geetergod> should i do it in root?
[09:52] <ksoze> now let's see if this works.
[09:52] <HappyFool> geetergod: try it as normal user first
[09:52] <geetergod> i did
[09:52] <geetergod> still cant :(
[09:52] <HappyFool> ok, try with sudo
[09:53] <HappyFool> do you have multiple users ?
[09:53] <geetergod> i did
[09:53] <HappyFool> and.. ?
[09:53] <geetergod> Happyfool, i dont believe so, im the only user on this computer
[09:53] <geetergod> happyfool, wont work with sudo either
[09:53] <HappyFool> geetergod: what's the error message ?
[09:53] <ivoks> bye
[09:54] <nickrud> hey, ivoks, before you go, thanks for the glimpse of e17
[09:54] <geetergod> Happyfool, in root it does nothing at all
[09:54] <HappyFool> ?
[09:54] <geetergod> maybe it actually erased it
[09:54] <raz> Installed mplayer throu synaptics. Is there any way I could *not* use the skin-based version? Just normal GUI ?
[09:54] <Rickie> Hey
[09:54] <HappyFool> no message should mean it worked
[09:54] <Rickie> How can i make my scroll wheel scroll faster in Ubuntu?
[09:54] <geetergod> root@cpe-66-24-86-121:/home/geetergod # rm /tmp/.esd/socket
[09:54] <geetergod> rm: cannot remove `/tmp/.esd/socket': No such file or directory
[09:54] <HappyFool> oh
[09:55] <geetergod> Happyfool, thats what it says when i do it in root
[09:55] <HappyFool> well, then it's removed ;)
[09:55] <HappyFool> try starting esd (but not as root -- just as a normal user)
[09:55] <geetergod> happyfool, you make me happy... fool :)
[09:55] <HappyFool> ;)
[09:55] <airox> Hi :)
[09:56] <geetergod> http://pastebin.com/299035
[09:56] <geetergod> Happyfool, thats what i get
[09:56] <Strife> anyone know if there's some configuration file for alsa where I can set the default volume for everything on startup?
[09:56] <Rickie> How can i make my scroll wheel scroll faster in Ubuntu? < Anyone?
[09:56] <crimsun> geetergod: when you reboot, /tmp should be cleared
[09:56] <Strife> (I have a laptop, so basically I want it to be muted by default)
[09:57] <ksoze> hrm...doesn't seem to hear now
[09:57] <Rickie> sorry for repeating, but it can't be that hard :p
[09:57] <ksoze> I'll have to mess with it more later
[09:57] <geetergod> crimsun, ive rebooted a lot, never seems to work still
[09:57] <avild001> hi
[09:57] <crimsun> Strife: mute it before shutting down, and the settings are saved on shutdown and restored on (re)boot
[09:57] <concept10> Rickie, move you finger faster
[09:57] <Rickie> lol
[09:57] <Rickie> seriously..
[09:57] <kengur> Strife, why don't u save your gnome session?
[09:57] <Strife> crimsun: that's what I had thought, but that did not occur
[09:57] <avild001> hi rickie
[09:58] <concept10> Rickie, seriously there is a setting somewhere
[09:58] <ksoze> crimsun: thanks again.  looks like I'm getting closer.
[09:58] <Strife> kengur: that does nothing for the sounds that occur before gnome is loaded :p
[09:58] <avild001> I'm from Chile
[09:58] <avild001> South America
[09:58] <Rickie> concept10: Well i kinda guessed, but telling me where would help ;)
[09:58] <ksoze> now I just need audacity to hear
[09:58] <Strife> althought, now that I think about it...
[09:58] <kengur> Strife, what? your HDD making creepy sounds? =)
[09:58] <Strife> it's possible that it was only the headphone volume that wasn't muted... strangely enough, master volume isn't controlling my headphone volume
[09:59] <Strife> I have no idea why that is, though...
[09:59] <Strife> that seems even stranger
[09:59] <Rickie> Thanks man
[09:59] <geetergod> Happyfool, any idears?
[09:59] <crimsun> Strife: sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base
[09:59] <crimsun> Strife: make sure it's configured to save settings on shutdown
[09:59] <HappyFool> geetergod: sorry, no. a bit over my head.
[10:00] <kalias> Hi can some someone answer a program install question?  When I tried to install a program it couldn't find everything in the repository.  How do I get around this?
[10:00] <ksoze> got it
[10:00] <geetergod> happyfool, if theres a way to just reboot linux so everything goes back to default i would, even if i lose everything
[10:00] <Strife> crimsun: thanks
[10:00] <crimsun> geetergod: lsattr /tmp/.esd/socket
[10:00] <ksoze> input volume was hosed
[10:00] <ksoze> OK< now I'm cooking
[10:00] <ksoze> cri8msun: many thanks
[10:00] <crimsun> np
[10:00] <Strife> that still leads to the next question, why doesn't my master volume control the headphone volume?
[10:00] <geetergod> crimsun, lsattr: No such file or directory while trying to stat /tmp/.esd/socket
[10:00] <ksoze> one line edit is not too much tweaking to ask
[10:00] <ksoze> :)
[10:00] <crimsun> Strife: there's a logical separation between the master and its slave controls
[10:01] <crimsun> geetergod: ls -a /tmp/.esd
[10:01] <nickrud> hey, kalias
[10:01] <geetergod> ls: /tmp/.esd: No such file or directory
[10:01] <kalias> nickrud: hey man :)  How is life?
[10:01] <crimsun> geetergod: are you using an /etc/asound.conf or ~/.asoundrc ?
[10:01] <nickrud> good overall, but I'm tied to the desk again thisafternoon
[10:01] <Strife> crimsun: ... a logical separation between "master volume" and every other volume???
[10:01] <Strife> that's not logical at all
[10:01] <Strife> I expect master volume to make EVERYTHING go up or down
[10:01] <Strife> hence the term master
[10:02] <geetergod> crimsun im not sure, i though ~/.asoundrc but maybe not
[10:02] <geetergod> thought*
[10:02] <nickrud> kalias if you're getting a package from the repository, there should be any unfulfilled dependencies
[10:02] <concept10> Rickie, sorry I forgot where that is. I checked gconf also
[10:02] <nickrud> what are you installing?
[10:02] <nickrud> *shouldn't
[10:02] <Rickie> No problem man
[10:02] <ksoze> ok, now I'll stick around a while and see if I can be of use to someone else at some point  :)
[10:03] <kalias> nickrud:  I get the following: W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/i/imlib+png2/gdk-imlib1_1.9.14-16.2ubuntu2_i386.deb
[10:03] <kalias>   MD5Sum mismatch
[10:03] <crimsun> Strife: no, master is separate, as in a master safety. You wouldn't expect a master control to toggle everything, would you? For instance, many chipsets simply do not have capability in hardware to have both analog and spdif output simultaneously. Would it even make sense then to allow a Master setting to control both? I think not.
[10:03] <nickrud> kalias it was in the topic yesterday that us was down, it must still be. try a different mirror in your sources.list
[10:03] <crimsun> kalias: use another mirror, like se.
[10:04] <kalias> nickrud: how do I redirect?
[10:04] <Strife> crimsun: ok, well at the very least, I want master volume to control my volume output regardless of what I am using :P
[10:04] <Strife> eveyrthing else I have ever used has just worked
[10:04] <seth_k> kalias: us and ca are messed, use http://archive.ubuntu.com or another mirror
[10:04] <seth_k> kalias: edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:04] <Strife> I don't know why alsa on ubuntu doesn't do that properly
[10:04] <seth_k> remove the us.
[10:04] <Howitzer> Is there a way that i can make a little server(on this pc)and that i can choose what folders can be acessed en when the server is up?
[10:04] <nickrud> in /etc/sources.list, replace us with another country, or just remove it (us.)
[10:04] <crimsun> Strife: then you want to script it to use amixer to set both headphone and master
[10:04] <Seveas> Howitzer, sure
[10:04] <geetergod> crimsun, should i try anything else?
[10:04] <kalias> okay, I will give it a go.
[10:04] <mp_> erhm, how to install a .deb from cmd line (like rpm -Ivh package.rpm) w/ apt ??
[10:04] <Seveas> mp_, dpkg -i filename.deb
[10:05] <Turoq> i have ubuntu 5.04 and framebuffer is my problem, how can i disable framebuffer from starting when my kernel boots up?
[10:05] <mp_> hehe ;(
[10:05] <crimsun> geetergod: did you check for the existence of either/both?
[10:05] <Howitzer> Seveas, what program would i need then?(very lightweight and low on resources)
[10:05] <mp_> ups ;)
[10:05] <mp_> Seveas: i am happy ;)
[10:05] <Seveas> Howitzer, depends on the protocol you need
[10:05] <mp_> thx
[10:05] <Howitzer> ehh
[10:05] <geetergod> crimsun, im looking but i dont know where exactly to look
[10:05] <Seveas> ftp/http/windows filesharing...
[10:05] <Howitzer> hmm
[10:05] <Howitzer> tp
[10:05] <Howitzer> Ftp
[10:05] <xolotl_> Can anyone give me some input on why my sound card might not work?  Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev. 04)
[10:05] <Howitzer> but also http :x
[10:06] <Seveas> Howitzer, vsftpd and apache2 then
[10:06] <Howitzer> but more ftp based
[10:06] <CKonT900> ms0000:02:0c.0 0280: 14e4:4320 (rev 02)
[10:06] <CKonT900> g CarlFK
[10:07] <kalias> which of the http addresses do I replace?  All of them?
[10:08] <nickrud> kalias yes
[10:08] <geetergod> crimsun, i dont know which one im using
[10:09] <xolotl_> Does anyone have any experience with Audigy cards?
[10:09] <seth_k> xolotl_ I have an Audigy 2 ZS
[10:09] <Howitzer> File: vsftpd-2.0.3pre1.tar.gz  	149 KB  	05/03/05  	17:04:00
[10:09] <Howitzer> File: vsftpd-2.0.3pre2.tar.gz 	150 KB 	12/03/05 	22:53:00
[10:09] <Howitzer> File: vsftpd-2.0.3pre2.tar.gz.asc 	1 KB 	12/03/05 	23:03:00
[10:09] <Howitzer> which do i need? :/
[10:09] <crimsun> geetergod: which exists
[10:09] <Seveas> Howitzer, use apt-get...
[10:10] <crimsun> Howitzer: just get the version in main
[10:10] <Howitzer> oh
[10:10] <Seveas> and please do not paste in here
[10:10] <crimsun> sudo aptitude install vsftpd
[10:10] <crimsun> xolotl_: sure, what's up?
[10:10] <Howitzer> i always forget apt >_
[10:10] <Davey> How is it that the Google search box in FF support ctrl+shift+arrow keys, but the location box will not?! :/
[10:10] <seth_k> Howitzer: apt is your friend, use it :)
[10:10] <Howitzer> i know :D
[10:11] <geetergod> crimsun, i dont know , says i have no audio output available
[10:11] <pepsi> wooo.. ive got breezy working... 59 packages that i cant upgrade..
[10:11] <pepsi> i avoided anything that would install x-common, cause i think thats when x starts complainging about fonts
[10:11] <seth_k> pepsi: it's not hard to fix the font issues
[10:11] <Howitzer> wth
[10:11] <crimsun> geetergod: no, it's as simple as ls /etc/asound.conf ~/.asoundrc
[10:12] <seth_k> pepsi: I'm running a fully upgraded Breezy
[10:12] <Howitzer> i can't find the Resolution tab in FluxBox :/
[10:12] <pepsi> seth_k, how is that possible? some packages are completely broken
[10:13] <seth_k> pepsi: true, I do have some that are simply uninstalled
[10:13] <geetergod> /etc/asound.conf does nothin and ~/.asoundrc says no such file or directory
[10:13] <seth_k> pepsi: but none held back
[10:13] <xolotl_> crimsun: I was just in winblows about 1 hour ago - decided to try Ubuntu on a Dell Dimension 8300.  so, I start up, most things seem OK, but I get /no/ sound what so ever - not even if I do a # cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp (etc.)
[10:13] <Howitzer> i don't get any sound either
[10:13] <geetergod> crimsun... wait a sec..
[10:13] <crimsun> geetergod: did you list them?
[10:13] <geetergod> crimsun. geetergod@cpe-66-24-86-121:~$ ls ~/.asoundrc
[10:13] <geetergod> /home/geetergod/.asoundrc
[10:13] <crimsun> hah!
[10:14] <crimsun> toldya
[10:14] <xolotl_> crimsun: yes, everything works properly under winblows.
[10:14] <geetergod> crimsun, yes you're good, i suck, you're king, im a dweeb :)
[10:14] <xolotl_> howitzer: what kind of sound card are you using?
[10:14] <crimsun> xolotl_: that's expected. Paste the output of amixer onto pastebin.com
[10:14] <Howitzer> onboard one
[10:14] <nalioth> geetergod: please
[10:14] <crimsun> you just need to unmute one mixer element.
[10:14] <Howitzer> Via **97
[10:14] <geetergod> nalioth haha
[10:14] <Howitzer> oh wait
[10:14] <Howitzer> my dad said i have to use alsamixer
[10:15] <xolotl_> crimsun: ? pastebin.com?
[10:15] <geetergod> crimsun, and that mixer element is what?
[10:15] <pepsi> seth_k, what about mozilla-firefox?
[10:15] <crimsun> geetergod: that was directed to xolotl_
[10:15] <geetergod> crimsun, ok sorry
[10:15] <Kano_Ubuntu> hi, did someone else have systemlocks with 2.6.11-k7 kernel?
[10:15] <crimsun> geetergod: please paste the contents of ~/.asoundrc onto pastebin
[10:15] <crimsun> xolotl_: http://pastebin.com
[10:15] <Howitzer> how do i use the search function in apt?
[10:15] <seth_k> xolotl_ please see http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=329208
[10:15] <Kano_Ubuntu> with installed nvidia 7664 it locks up when gnome is starting
[10:15] <Howitzer> apt-cache?
[10:15] <Howitzer> apt-cache?
[10:15] <seth_k> xolotl_ I helped someone with your card last week and they were running Ubuntu too
[10:15] <Howitzer> oh
[10:16] <Howitzer> srry :x
[10:16] <ksoze> ok...now firefox doesn't work
[10:16] <seth_k> pepsi: the package is now called firefox in Breezy
[10:16] <ksoze> connection?  doubt it
[10:16] <xolotl_> seth_k: thanks
[10:16] <geetergod> crimsun, i type ~/.asoundrc into terminal and get /home/geetergod/.asoundrc
[10:16] <ksoze> but time to reboot to be sure
[10:16] <nalioth> Howitzer: apt-cache search (and run apt-cache --help for more)
[10:16] <seth_k> pepsi: not mozilla-firefox. firefox provides -> mozilla-firefox
[10:16] <xolotl_> crimsun: will try seth_k's suggestion first - if not...  brb
[10:16] <Kano_Ubuntu> i know that 2.6.11 can run fine....
[10:16] <Howitzer> i''m in the apt-cache man nd its damn confusing :x
[10:16] <crimsun> xolotl_: that's the precise resolution
[10:16] <pepsi> seth_k, but firefox wants to remove mozilla-firefox, which barfs when trying to be removed
[10:17] <Kano_Ubuntu> have it running usually
[10:17] <seth_k> pepsi: really? maybe try uninstalling mozilla-firefox first?
[10:17] <pepsi> ok
[10:17] <crimsun> geetergod: no, cat ~/.asoundrc (but don't paste here; use pastebin.com instead)
[10:17] <Kano_Ubuntu> someone should enable /proc/config.gz kernel option
[10:17] <nalioth> Howitzer: easier using the --help
[10:17] <geetergod> k
[10:17] <Cirus_hxc> hola!
[10:18] <Kano_Ubuntu> and disable IO_APIC
[10:18] <geetergod> crimsun, http://pastebin.com/299050
[10:18] <crimsun> Kano_Ubuntu: why? Don't you have a /boot/config-$(uname -r)?
[10:18] <kalias> nickrud:  I updated the sources list and tried to rerun synaptic.  I get the following:  E: I wasn't able to locate file for the gdk-imlib1 package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package.
[10:18] <kalias> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[10:18] <Kano_Ubuntu> crimsun, yes, but that other way is better
[10:19] <Kano_Ubuntu> just a tiny option
[10:19] <Howitzer> if they made windows more like linux, i would've bothered asking a cd rom the neighbour and reformat, but hey!
[10:19] <crimsun> Kano_Ubuntu: because it's in ram instead of on secondary storage?
[10:19] <jseattle> nalioth i am trying to reach you here
[10:20] <Kano_Ubuntu> crimsun, because it is quite common that way.
[10:20] <jseattle> nalioth...call 713-501-....
[10:20] <Howitzer> File: vsftpd-2.0.3pre1.tar.gz  	149 KB  	05/03/05  	17:04:00
[10:20] <Howitzer> File: vsftpd-2.0.3pre2.tar.gz 	150 KB 	12/03/05 	22:53:00
[10:20] <Howitzer> File: vsftpd-2.0.3pre2.tar.gz.asc 	1 KB 	12/03/05 	23:03:00
[10:20] <crimsun> geetergod: wow, your ~/.asoundrc is useless
[10:20] <Howitzer> i've done apt-get update
[10:20] <geetergod> crimsun, hm the sound was working last night
[10:20] <ksoze> crimsun: bad news
[10:20] <crimsun> geetergod: you could get by without having ~/.asoundrc at all, since the contents of that file are precisely default
[10:20] <crimsun> Kano_Ubuntu: file a bug against linux then.
[10:20] <geetergod> crimsun, all i want is my sound back, thats all, whatever it takes
[10:21] <ksoze> crimsun: after making that sound change and using the sound apps for a while, Firefox stopped working (wouldn't run), and now the box won't reboot (I'm typing from another machine
[10:21] <crimsun> Kano_Ubuntu: bugzilla.u.c
[10:21] <ksoze> just hag son Sending processes the TERM signal
[10:21] <ksoze> so I'm gonna hard reboot the thing
[10:21] <xolotl_> crimson seth_k: that wasn't the same card.  I don't have the same options in alsamixer.
[10:21] <nickrud> kalias, wait one, please
[10:21] <crimsun> ksoze: ok
[10:21] <Kano_Ubuntu> crimsun, i wont use ubuntu for long time, i just adopted my nvidia script for it
[10:21] <crimsun> xolotl_: then paste your amixer output onto pastebin.com
[10:22] <ksoze> three finger solute appears to have done the trick
[10:22] <kalias> nickru: no worries.
[10:22] <Kano_Ubuntu> because i wanted to add xorg support
[10:22] <crimsun> Kano_Ubuntu: that's fine, I know you have your own distro
[10:22] <kalias> nickrud: no worries :)
[10:22] <nalioth> my fan club reaches from all directions
[10:22] <Kano_Ubuntu> crimsun, just wanted to tell you some things to improve, i dont file bug reports for u.
[10:22] <crimsun> Kano_Ubuntu: but if you want to actually contribute and hopefully make a change, then file a bug.
[10:22] <ramphis02> Hello, I want to know about How long it takes that Ubuntu Company can send me my CDs of Ubuntu.
[10:22] <geetergod> crimsun, is there a way i can just get my sound back?
[10:22] <seth_k> xolotl_ okay ^_^ crimsun's turn
[10:22] <ksoze> now sitting at stopping cupsd
[10:22] <nalioth> jseattle: are you here?
[10:23] <crimsun> Kano_Ubuntu: don't whine uselessly. Be proactive.
[10:23] <nickrud> kalias, I just rebooted into breezy (I do that now and then when someone say's it's still working) and have to look around
[10:23] <Kano_Ubuntu> crimsun, if i wanted to use it, i would instlal my own kernel
[10:23] <ksoze> man...this thing is indeed shuttign down, but godawful slowly
[10:23] <nickrud> kalias, gdk-imlib1 isn't in hoary, according to packages.ubuntu.com, so, what extra repositories to you have :)
[10:24] <Kano_Ubuntu> so will wipe it out now
[10:24] <Kano_Ubuntu> bye
[10:24] <kalias> nickrud:  ooh, good question. I think I have universe.
[10:24] <nickrud> kalias, no, thats a good section, how about pasting your sources into pastebin.com
[10:25] <xolotl_> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/299056
[10:25] <kalias> nickrud: Where would I find the sources?
[10:25] <dogfoodbrain> Le franais est-il parl dedans ici ?
[10:25] <ksoze> I strongly adocate the end of the "it just works" manta.  :)  It sets people up with unrealistic expectations.  :)
[10:25] <kalias> nickrud: you mean from sources.list?
[10:25] <seth_k> dogfoodbrain: il faut utiliser #ubuntu-fr
[10:26] <nickrud> kalias, yeah :)
[10:26] <geetergod> crimsun, anyway i can just get my sound back?
[10:26] <crimsun> geetergod: will you be patient please? Thanks.
[10:26] <kalias> nickrud: sure I can do that.  I just go to pastbin.com and put them there?
[10:26] <geetergod> crimsun, sorry
[10:26] <seth_k> dogfoodbrain: peut-tre il y en a quelques-uns, mais #ubuntu-fr, c'est meilleur
[10:26] <nickrud> kalias, yeah, then paste the link here
[10:27] <crimsun> xolotl_: quite a few of your mixer elements are unmuted, which presents a problem
[10:27] <ksoze> ugh...I may have to unplug this thing
[10:27] <ksoze> it is non-responsive to the power button
[10:27] <crimsun> xolotl_: it will take me a couple minutes to compile a list of changes you need to make; hang on.
[10:27] <seth_k> ksoze: hold power btn for 5 seconds
[10:27] <nalioth> ksoze: really really unresponsive?
[10:27] <xolotl_> crimsun: most of them were muted to start - still no sound
[10:27] <ksoze> seth_k: that worked
[10:27] <seth_k> hammer!
[10:27] <Howitzer> what does the command 'sh' do?
[10:27] <ramphis02> Hello, I want to know about How long it takes that Ubuntu Company can send me my CDs of Ubuntu.
[10:27] <seth_k> Howitzer: sh runs a shell script
[10:28] <Howitzer> oh
[10:28] <nalioth> Howitzer: starts a sh shell
[10:28] <kalias> nickrud: okay done.  Look for kalias.
[10:28] <ramphis02> Who knows ?
[10:28] <crimsun> geetergod: the first thing I recommend you do is move ~/.asoundrc out of the way
[10:28] <ksoze> "it mostly works"  that's actually still cool
[10:28] <seth_k> lol
[10:28] <crimsun> ramphis02: hoary? anywhere from a few weeks to a few months.
[10:28] <nalioth> ramphis02: they'll be there when they get there, if you're in a hurry, find a university or linux users group and get some burnt copies
[10:28] <dogfoodbrain> seth_k, merci. I nettoient mes oreilles avec mes pieds.
[10:28] <geetergod> crimsun, remove it or move?
[10:28] <kalias> nickrud:  Crumbs I am learning alot from you guys :)))
[10:28] <crimsun> geetergod: move
[10:28] <nickrud> kalias, after you clicked send, your location bar will have pastbin.com/<some numbers> that's the link I need
[10:28] <seth_k> dogfoodbrain, bonne chance ^_^
[10:29] <ksoze> well, it restarted just fine
[10:29] <ramphis02> Nalioth and crimsu, Thank u
[10:29] <ksoze> so I'm guessing it'll be ok until I try any more esd acrobatics
[10:29] <Howitzer> i'm going to try ET i think
[10:29] <geetergod> crimsun, whats the move command?
[10:29] <Doonz> hey guy is there a friendly way to add hdds
[10:29] <seth_k> geetergod: mv
[10:29] <seth_k> Doonz: you want to mount another partition?
[10:30] <Doonz> well
[10:30] <Doonz> basically i have 4 hdds all on a controller card
[10:30] <kalias> nickrud: 299058
[10:30] <Doonz> i lost my hdd and mobo over the weekend
[10:30] <Doonz> so i had to reinstall
[10:30] <benjamin123> anyone here know how to get spell checking working in  openoffice?
[10:30] <nickrud> kalias, http://pastebin.com/299058 ?
[10:30] <benjamin123> is there a package to install?
[10:30] <geetergod> crimsun, where to?
[10:30] <nalioth> geetergod: used improperly, mv can also be 'delete"
[10:30] <Doonz> but now i have no idea howto get those hdd into this install
[10:30] <kalias> nickrud: yes
[10:30] <Howitzer> Doonz, don't you have to edit a file and add hda/hdb an all? :x
[10:31] <seth_k> benjamin123, what language?
[10:31] <geetergod> nalioth so mv ~/.asoundrc to where?
[10:31] <Curtis_> Hey everyone.
[10:31] <Choubaka> Hm.
[10:31] <ksoze> does KDE have the same connection to esd that GNOME does?
[10:31] <dogfoodbrain> seth_k, J'apprcie le got de mon cire d'oreille. Je la mange avec mes orteils. :)
[10:31] <ksoze> maybe I could switch to KDE and get rid of esd?
[10:31] <Curtis_> I just ordered some CD's for my Linux convention that is going on.
[10:31] <Choubaka> I wish I had the patience to wait for Breezy to be released before buying a laptop.
[10:32] <seth_k> Doonz, see: http://ubuntuguide.org/#windows to mount more partitions
[10:32] <Doonz> ok
[10:32] <crimsun> geetergod: anything other than ~/.asoundrc
[10:32] <crimsun> geetergod: for instance, ~/.asoundrc.bak
[10:32] <seth_k> ksoze: KDE uses Alsa + Artsd
[10:32] <seth_k> iirc
[10:32] <geetergod> ok
[10:32] <nalioth> geetergod: to your desktop perhaps? just givin ya notice, that "mv" is very close to "delete" if not used properly.
[10:32] <Doonz> but there not ntfs or fat there ext
[10:32] <Curtis_> What kernel does Ubuntu use , 2.4.x or 2.6.x ?
[10:32] <crimsun> 2.6
[10:32] <Seveas> 6
[10:32] <Curtis_> Great :)
[10:33] <ramphis02> 2.6.x
[10:33] <seth_k> Doonz: ext2 or ext3, just replace with the appropriate type
[10:33] <Doonz> umm
[10:33] <ramphis02> I guess 2.6.11
[10:33] <Curtis_> I hoping to hand out 99% of the CD's i have ordered , Anyone here Ubunto staff ?
[10:33] <Doonz> what would have ubuntu made it last time?
[10:33] <nickrud> kalias, hmm, they're not the best, but I there're no odd ones.
[10:33] <geetergod> crimsun i did geetergod@cpe-66-24-86-121:~$ mv ~/.asoundrc ~/.asoundrc.bak
[10:33] <run|help> hi guys
[10:33] <geetergod> crimsun, and it showed nothing, does that mean it worked?
[10:33] <run|help> grub has hosed me
[10:34] <crimsun> geetergod: good. Now use aplay to test.
[10:34] <ksoze> sth_k: then maybe that's the answer
[10:34] <run|help> when i run grub and type setup (hd0)
[10:34] <run|help> i get
[10:34] <kalias> nickrud: okay so where to from here ace?
[10:34] <ksoze> seth_k, even
[10:34] <Howitzer> Can POP work with mail-folders?
[10:34] <run|help>  Running "install /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0) (hd0)1+16 p (hd0,5)/boot/grub/stage2
[10:34] <run|help> /boot/grub/menu.lst"... failed
[10:34] <nalioth> geetergod: yes
[10:34] <geetergod> crimsun, 8-1118516774-649269: Permission denied
[10:34] <geetergod> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:898:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to connect client
[10:34] <geetergod> aplay: main:508: audio open error: Permission denied
[10:34] <geetergod> sorry for big post
[10:34] <nickrud> kalias, are you typed the lib name correctly?
[10:34] <seth_k> dogfoodbrain: je ne comprends pas cette idiome :P je suis amricain et j'tudie le franais
[10:34] <crimsun> geetergod: do you have an /etc/asound.conf ?
[10:34] <Choubaka> Any idea when the breezy GCC4 transition will be complete? ie. When will it be relatively safe to upgrade to Breezy?
[10:35] <nalioth> seth_k: is there nobody in -fr?
[10:35] <run|help> grub-install is giving me: The file /mnt/lnx/boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[10:35] <seth_k> Choubaka: it's over, for the most part
[10:35] <seth_k> nalioth: dunno
[10:35] <kalias> nickrud:  I copied the old one and inserted the new http address.
[10:35] <Choubaka> seth_k: oh. cool.
[10:35] <seth_k> ksoze: I hear Breezy is toying with dumping ESD
[10:35] <nalioth> Choubaka: relatively save when it says "release candidate"
[10:35] <Choubaka> seth_k: so how's breezy now?
[10:35] <dogfoodbrain> Why is it when I use XFCE the Start menu formats correctly but when I use Gnome or KDE in Ubuntu, there appears a "Debian" submenu with numerous submenus of programs (many of which do not show as they should in KDE/Gnome Start menu and subfolders of)
[10:35] <nickrud> kalias, ack, I read your initial message wrong, as usual, a sec
[10:35] <seth_k> ah, l'anglais :P
[10:35] <geetergod> crimsun, i'll pastebin it for u
[10:35] <Choubaka> nalioth: I don't mind having to fix borkness.
[10:35] <dogfoodbrain> seth_k :D
[10:35] <kalias> nickrud:  you can see the old addresses from the initial installation.  I left them there for reference.
[10:36] <seth_k> dogfoodbrain: are you using repositories that are not Ubuntu's?
[10:36] <nalioth> Choubaka: then use it and post lots of bug reports
[10:36] <nickrud> kalias, no, it was something else
[10:36] <Mez> hmm
[10:36] <dogfoodbrain> seth_k I am using ubuntu respoitories
[10:36] <geetergod> crimsun, http://pastebin.com/299071
[10:36] <Choubaka> nalioth: Perhaps.
[10:36] <Mez> anyone interested in an acroread backport for hoary (perfectly working with default hoary (+universe)
[10:36] <kalias> nickrud: oh, do I need to change it back?
[10:36] <nalioth> Choubaka: cuz borkness is afoot in packs and waves
[10:36] <dogfoodbrain> seth_k I read about this issue on the ubuntuforums
[10:36] <ksoze> sth_k: sounds like it'd bea  real good idea
[10:36] <ksoze> seems esd is ass  :)
[10:36] <Choubaka> How's the laptop mission advancing btw?
[10:36] <Howitzer> are there any big changes in 5.10? and is it worth to dl it?
[10:37] <nickrud> kalias, no, the problem was mine, not yours, I read the E: message wrong, a sec
[10:37] <nalioth> Mez: why that over xpdf?
[10:37] <dogfoodbrain> seth_k and I experience it too but I notice there's no debian subfolder in the start menu when using XFCE4 and the start menu is formatted correctly.
[10:37] <benjamin123> seth_k: english
[10:37] <anacron> is there a way to make gnome windows snap to each other, like in kubuntu?
[10:37] <mjr> anacron, drag with shift pressed
[10:38] <anacron> (more like in kde)
[10:38] <nalioth> amd to produce 4x CPUs. WOWZERS!
[10:38] <anacron> mjr: damn it was that easy :D
[10:38] <anacron> thanks though
[10:38] <seth_k> benjamin123, dogfoodbrain asked for help in French, so I was using French. English now though
[10:38] <Mez> nalioth - cause it works proerplky with like - mozilla and stuff :D
[10:38] <Rugmonster> Afternoon all
[10:39] <benjamin123> so you know how to get spell check to work in openoffice2? seth_k?
[10:39] <xolotl_> geetergod - what card do you have?
[10:39] <nalioth> Mez: ah, my browsers open up with the f/oss pdf thing
[10:39] <crimsun> geetergod: mv /etc/asound.conf /etc/asound.conf.bak
[10:39] <anacron> mjr: do you know if there's a way also resize so that windows "snaps"?
[10:39] <geetergod> xolotl_, Chaintech 7.1pci
[10:39] <Mez> ah fair enough nalitoh - just some people ewill be happier with acroread
[10:39] <geetergod> crimsun, ok
[10:39] <seth_k> benjamin123, one sec, I'll chase it up for you (I thought you were telling me to speak English; had forgotten I asked you a question :P )
[10:39] <Rugmonster> I've got a new x86-64 install going and I'm trying to install automake, but I'm getting an MD5sum error. Any suggestions? I've tried apt-get update, but I'm still getting it.
[10:40] <benjamin123> ok, thanks
[10:40] <crimsun> geetergod: then test with: aplay -Dplughw:0,0 /usr/share/sounds/login.wav
[10:40] <seth_k> dogfoodbrain: XFCE uses its own menu system and I'm not familiar with it, sorry :(
[10:40] <geetergod> crimsun, it wont let me move it, permission denied
[10:40] <mic__> hello shewolf how goes it?
[10:40] <nickrud> kalias, try in a terminal, apt-get -f install , if it's a simple problem, that should fix it
[10:40] <crimsun> geetergod: you need to use sudo
[10:40] <SheWolf> scary
[10:40] <dogfoodbrain> seth_k, Je me demandais si je pourrais marier Ubuntu. J'ai plaisir  employer Ubuntu beaucoup, il peut sembler trange pour vouloir marier une distribution de Linux, mais il n'y a aucun autre que mon coeur dsire. Ubuntu est mon amour.
[10:40] <mp_> have an USB wireless working (dwl-g122 w/ndis), but it keeps losing connection - ideas?
[10:40] <ksoze> so...supposing I am actually going to dig through this beast...can esd be replaced while staying with GNOME?
[10:40] <mic__> lol sit back and watch sis
[10:40] <dogfoodbrain> seth_k thank you
[10:40] <ksoze> by something less assy?  :)
[10:40] <seth_k> dogfoodbrain: LOL
[10:40] <SheWolf> ok????
[10:40] <seth_k> dogfoodbrain: Ubuntu < une femme
[10:40] <mic__> back to pm shewolf
[10:41] <Stew2> I've got a fat32 drive I want to see under ubuntu. How do I mount it?
[10:41] <SheWolf> please
[10:41] <geetergod> crimsun, was there sposed to be a sound when i tested?
[10:41] <Stew2> sh
[10:41] <seth_k> Stew2: http://ubuntuguide.org/#windows
[10:41] <pepsi> seth_k, http://pastebin.com/299076
[10:41] <run|help> anyone have info about grub-install dooming with a 'stage1 not read correctly' ?
[10:41] <havoc> hiya
[10:41] <crimsun> geetergod: yes
[10:41] <pepsi> all those packages complain of an MD5Sum mismatch
[10:41] <nalioth> mez, i just prefer f/oss over proprietary and "free"
[10:41] <crimsun> xolotl_: sorry, getting around to your paste
[10:41] <Mez> dogfoodbrain, you scare me
[10:42] <geetergod> crimsun, dang it
[10:42] <crimsun> pepsi: have you tried using another mirror?
[10:42] <seth_k> benjamin123: I believe you want metapackage language-support-en
[10:42] <havoc> hmm, new install, and init is all ot of wack;  load average in 'top' is steadily climbing
[10:42] <crimsun> pepsi: there's a known issue with us/ca
[10:42] <pepsi> oh fun
[10:42] <pepsi> ok
[10:42] <alexwillmer> I'm trying to access a share on a Windows XP SP2 host from my Hoary laptop. If the XP host's windows firewall is disabled all is well, but if the firewall is up I'm unable to connect. Openning ports on the XP host isn't the problem, they're already open. Is there some tweak I might be missing to have Ubuntu get through?
[10:42] <seth_k> benjamin123: sudo aptitude install language-support-en
[10:42] <xolotl_> crimsun: no worries - I've been searching elsewhere too.
[10:42] <Mez> I understand nalioth, ubt when it's proprietary i think its good to have the actual proprietary software available
[10:42] <benjamin123> ok
[10:42] <benjamin123> ill try thanks:)
[10:42] <kalias> nickrud: I got a big listing when I did that. Reading package lists... Done
[10:42] <kalias> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:42] <kalias> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[10:42] <kalias> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main Packag es (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_main_binary-i386_Pa ckages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:42] <kalias> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_restricted_bi nary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:42] <kalias> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Pa ckages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_universe_binary -i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:42] <pepsi> woah
[10:42] <kalias> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates/mai n Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary-updates_mai n_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:42] <kalias> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates/res tricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary-updat es_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:43] <nickrud> kalias, don't do that :)
[10:43] <kalias> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-security/ma in Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary-security_m ain_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:43] <Mez> kalias - #flood
[10:43] <kalias> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-security/re stricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary-secu rity_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:43] <kalias> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[10:43] <seth_k> ah pepsi, should have guessed that was the error you got >_< sorry, forgot about the archive issues
[10:43] <nickrud> kalias, that's what pastebin is fore
[10:43] <seth_k> pepsi, use http://archive.ubuntu.com temporarily
[10:43] <pepsi> thanks
[10:43] <kalias> oh, sorry, I didn't realize it did a flood, my mistake :((
[10:43] <geetergod> crimsun, i cant get any sound
[10:43] <crimsun> geetergod: paste amixer output to pastebin
[10:44] <geetergod> crimsun amixer output?
[10:44] <Howitzer> 75mb complete for RTCW:ET \ o /
[10:44] <Stew2> I've got a Lucent Winmodem 56k. How do I make it work in Ubuntu?
[10:45] <crimsun> geetergod: yes. Type amixer, then paste its output onto pastebin.com
[10:45] <nickrud> kalias, a simple error.
[10:45] <kalias> nickrud: http://pastebin.com/299079   I just learned my first what not to do. Sorry :(((
[10:45] <nickrud> after you change the sources.list, you must run update the package list
[10:46] <geetergod> crimsun, http://pastebin.com/299081
[10:46] <littlezoper> let's see if this channel is more helpful than #debian :)
[10:46] <littlezoper> i'm getting an md5sum mismatch when installing a package.  how do i tell apt not to check m5sums?
[10:46] <pepsi> heh
[10:46] <littlezoper> on kubuntu 5.04
[10:46] <seth_k> littlezoper: there's an issue with us and ca archives
[10:46] <littlezoper> in case that matters
[10:46] <ksoze> crimsun: this might interest you: after I rebooted, Audacity won't run again, despite the esd.conf file changes still being in place
[10:46] <seth_k> littlezoper: use http://archive.ubuntu.com
[10:46] <ksoze> it's as though they are ignored on starup
[10:46] <littlezoper> seth_k: kinda figured so...
[10:47] <dogfoodbrain> seth_k, L'OH, sguardo, l  Mario. Osserva cos divertente in quel cappello dell'idraulico.
[10:47] <seth_k> littlezoper: you can change those in /etc/apt/sources.list :)
[10:47] <truz24> I have two nics in my box, each one is connected to a different router, how do i tell ubuntu which nic to use for internet access ?
[10:47] <theNeonGod> how can i improve the speed of audio extraction?
[10:47] <ksoze> but if I restart esd, it then works
[10:47] <ksoze> interesting
[10:47] <littlezoper> seth_k: what do you..that worked :)
[10:47] <seth_k> dogfoodbrain: no comprendo....
[10:47] <littlezoper> seth_k: thanks :)
[10:47] <ksoze> well, I am gonna undo the change to prevent another hang
[10:47] <seth_k> littlezoper: not a problem ^_^ come again
[10:48] <seth_k> littlezoper: will want to change it back eventually, the local mirror will be faster
[10:48] <crimsun> geetergod: mute 'IEC958 Output' and unmute 'External Amplifier'
[10:48] <littlezoper> #debian refused to even attempt to tell me how to disable mdsum checking ("don't do that!" "it's important") and when I mentioned kubuntu, they slammed on the brakes
[10:48] <Doonz> Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[10:48] <Doonz> /dev/hde1               1        9732    78172258+  83  Linux
[10:48] <Stew2> seth_k, Thanks for the mounting info
[10:48] <Doonz> what file system is that?
[10:48] <littlezoper> seth_k: thanks...i'll do that in a week or so :)
[10:49] <randabis> Doonz: probably ext2/3
[10:49] <ksoze> guess for now I'll kill esd every time I want to record, then bring it back
[10:49] <dogfoodbrain> littlezoper, you should thank them. Disabling md5sum checking is normally unwise.
[10:49] <ksoze> not cool, but easiuer than a reinstall :)
[10:49] <crimsun> Doonz: mount|grep '/dev/hde1'
[10:49] <nalioth> littlezoper: they're not as friendly as we are in here
[10:49] <alexwillmer> Doonz: you can't tell that from the partition table, but normally it will be ext2
[10:49] <geetergod> crimsun, done
[10:49] <Doonz> crimsum what does that command do?
[10:49] <littlezoper> dogfoodbrain: i realize that, but I'm just checking out ubuntu to see if I want to stay on it, so md5's aren't that important to me right now
[10:49] <littlezoper> nalioth: i've noticed :)
[10:49] <crimsun> Doonz: it will tell you what filesystem type it is if the partition is mounted.
[10:50] <littlezoper> i'm a long time redhat and gentoo user, so...
[10:50] <Doonz> ok
[10:50] <randabis> dancin' in the desert blowin' up the sunshine
[10:50] <seth_k> littlezoper: Debian children are fun. Apt is wonderful
[10:50] <loply> evening folks
[10:50] <littlezoper> seth_k: i've used apt4rpm on my RH/fedora boxes...love it
[10:50] <randabis> I don't miss gentoo. :)
[10:51] <littlezoper> so far, (k)ubuntu is impressive...
[10:51] <geetergod> crimsun, is checking them muting them or unmuting?
[10:51] <crimsun> geetergod: if there is no checkmark, it is muted.
[10:51] <littlezoper> randabis: yeah...so far, kubuntu has been as responsive as gentoo without the install pains :)
[10:51] <loply> does ubuntu store the drive/partition it thinks its installed on somewhere? As some packages failed to install because they were trying to access hdd1 (ive now moved the drive to hda1 instead).. i cant find where to change this
[10:51] <xolotl_> crimsun: I have been checking a few things and it looks like the onboard intel8x0 soundcard is somehow being detected and used even though it's disabled in the bios
[10:51] <crimsun> geetergod: I'd use alsamixer or amixer myself.
[10:51] <Doonz> so if i want to mount that whole drive into a folder it would be
[10:51] <Doonz> /dev/hde1       /home/***/windows  vext2    umask=000       0       0
[10:51] <geetergod> crimsun, ok thats done that
[10:51] <crimsun> xolotl_: cat /proc/asound/cards
[10:51] <crimsun> xolotl_: (in #flood)
[10:51] <geetergod> ok
[10:52] <Stew2> I've got a Lucent Winmodem 56k. How do I make it work in Ubuntu?
[10:53] <geetergod> crimsun, in alsamixer for external speaker how can i unmute?
[10:53] <xolotl_> crimsun: done
[10:53] <randabis> littlezoper: I don't find the install process of gentoo that painful. I find the gentoo way of doing things painful :/
[10:53] <seth_k> randabis: I dunno, nothing like installing Gnome for 3 days...
[10:54] <littlezoper> ok...another question...i have gcc-3.4 installed, but gcc is not in the path (gcc-3.4 is, though).  if i install gcc, it requires 3.3.  is there a way around that
[10:54] <geetergod> crimsun, i think i did it
[10:54] <littlezoper> randabis: yeah, once you've done it once or twice, it's not too bad... i do like how a gentoo system works, though.  portage is pretty cool
[10:54] <jadam> yo
[10:55] <jadam> I just installed ubuntu, and im wondering how I can get rythmn box to play mp3 files
[10:55] <randabis> seth_k: meh, took under a day on mine. ymmv
[10:55] <randabis> littlezoper: portage has its ups and downs
[10:55] <nalioth> jadam: ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[10:55] <seth_k> randabis, was exaggerating for effect ;)
[10:56] <randabis> seth_k: :) you should have said openoffice.org then :p
[10:56] <nalioth> seth_k: for real! shoulda only taken you 1.5 days! j/k
[10:56] <jadam> ok thanks
[10:56] <jadam> on to package manager now =)
[10:57] <jadam> awesome
[10:57] <crimsun> xolotl_: ah.
[10:57] <nalioth> synd: check this out http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000717046384/
[10:57] <crimsun> xolotl_: would you like to use your audigy by default?
[10:57] <crimsun> geetergod: press 'm' to mute/unmute
[10:58] <seth_k> dogfoodbrain, might look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32220
[10:58] <geetergod> crimsun, im all set then for that part
[10:58] <Doonz> @server:~$ sudo mount -a
[10:58] <Doonz> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hde1,
[10:58] <Doonz>        missing codepage or other error
[10:58] <Doonz>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[10:58] <Doonz>        dmesg | tail  or so
[10:58] <xolotl_> xolotl_: hmm - that's interesting: didn't even think to try that, but now I've got "sound" of sorts.  the microphone works.  # alsamixer -c 1 instead of just # alsamixer
[10:58] <jadam> hrmm ubuntu is a pretty slick distro
[10:59] <Doonz> whats that mean?
[10:59] <nalioth> jadam: welcome
[10:59] <nalioth> jadam: to ubuntu
[11:00] <xolotl_> Heads up to everyone with two sound trouble: you may have two sound cards..!  X-/
[11:00] <crimsun> xolotl_: if you want to use the audigy by default, do: echo "options snd-intel8x0 index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[11:00] <crimsun> geetergod: ok, test again.
[11:00] <TheCan> hi my mbr got overridden by installing windows. how can i get my grub back? grub-install /dev/hda doesnt seem to work when trying it from a chroot using knoppix? (using the ubuntu partition as chroot)
[11:00] <crimsun> sorry, but I have to go now for errands
[11:00] <crimsun> I'll be on much later tonight
[11:00] <Deffy> How should I format my HD so that way I can use it as general storage by both Win Parition and ubuntu?
[11:00] <seth_k> have fun crimsun
[11:00] <xolotl_> crimsun: thanks for the help
[11:01] <run|help> TheCan, im in the same boat ;-(
[11:01] <seth_k> if you were really serious about signing my key
[11:01] <geetergod> crimsun, still nothing :(
[11:01] <seth_k> seth@sethkinast.com, shoot me an e-mail, I can buy you lunch on your way through :P
[11:01] <TheCan> run|help, i know i already fixed this a few days ago but i forgot how i actually did it
[11:01] <nalioth> Deffy: with lots of fat32
[11:01] <xolotl_> Deffy: good question - as I think Linsux will read but not write to Winblows NTFS
[11:02] <anacron> how can i increase my audio volume without volume control?
[11:02] <xolotl_> geetergod: still having issues with your sound?
[11:02] <geetergod> yes
[11:02] <TheCan> run|help, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html maybe this helps
[11:02] <loply> is there no package in the repository for VLC?
[11:02] <seth_k> Deffy: you'll want to avoid doing that as much as possible though, because fat32 does not support user permissions
[11:02] <geetergod> xolotl_, or lack there of
[11:02] <xolotl_> anacron:  try alsamixer from the command line
[11:02] <dogfoodbrain> seth_k, thank you for forums url, you are very helpful to people here I am thankful
[11:02] <nalioth> Deffy: i always install client machines with a 4gb partition for jsut windows (helps during the bi-annual cleansing) and the rest for everything esle (program files, etc)
[11:02] <nalioth> Deffy: both partitions in fat32
[11:02] <anacron> xolotl_: tnx a lot!
[11:03] <xolotl_> geetergod: what's the issue specificly
[11:03] <seth_k> dogfoodbrain: de rien
[11:03] <Deffy> nalioth: alright, I use the Windows OS for my Pro Tools work, but also want to use Linux for general use, and I want to make sure that I still can store the huge Pro Tools files on my 160GB storage drive
[11:04] <geetergod> xolotl_, i have no sound, i had it last night and when i was trying to get my surround sound to work i lost all sound
[11:04] <Deffy> while using the original 40GB for OS and OS related stuff
[11:04] <nalioth> Deffy: fat32 will work well
[11:04] <run|help> what is /dev/dm ?
[11:04] <Deffy> thanks
[11:05] <nalioth> Deffy: all ya need for linux is about 4 gb (linux can actually run proggys off other filesystems)
[11:05] <xolotl_> geetergod: did you keep a hand written og of what you were doing?
[11:05] <nalioth> Deffy: mind the bloat, tho
[11:05] <geetergod> xolotl_, no but ive been doing that ever since it happened
[11:05] <xolotl_> geetergod: good idea  ;-)
[11:05] <geetergod> xolotl_, sometimes good ideas come too late :)
[11:06] <xolotl_> geetergod: what kind of system do you have?
[11:06] <ksoze> ok...I scripted something that kills esd, runs audacity, then restarts esd after audacity exits
[11:06] <geetergod> xolotl_, Chaintech 7.1 sound card with Logitech x-530 speakers
[11:06] <ksoze> it's a kludge, but it'll work
[11:06] <xolotl_> geetergod: specificly is there multiple sound cards
[11:06] <geetergod> xolotl_, i have the new sound card i put in last night and the old ones still in
[11:07] <xolotl_> geetergod: this could be an issue as I just found out with my system
[11:07] <geetergod> xolotl_, i was using the new sound card last night, sounded sweet... maybe the 2 are fightin
[11:07] <xolotl_> geetergod: which card are you trying to use by default
[11:07] <geetergod> xolotl_, i have the speakers plugged into the 7.1
[11:07] <xolotl_> geetergod: if you don't want to use the old card, I suggest taking it out and trying again
[11:08] <geetergod> xolotl_, it didnt look like it could really come out, i dunno, like its hooked to other stuff
[11:08] <geetergod> xolotl_, how can i set my new card to be the default?
[11:08] <xolotl_> geetergod: it may be hooked to other stuff, but the new card should provide those functions - depending...  X-/
[11:09] <geetergod> xolotl_, the new card is bigger and wont fit where the old one it
[11:09] <geetergod> xolotl_, is*
[11:09] <djm62> you can change the priority of the sound cards in /etc/modprobe.d
[11:09] <xolotl_> geetergod: crimsun gave me a command to try - haven't done it yet: echo "options snd-intel8x0 index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[11:09] <djm62> yeah, like that :)
[11:10] <xolotl_> geetergod: what are the connections / cords going to on the old card?
[11:10] <geetergod> xolotl_, can you type that out so i can copy and paste?
[11:10] <djm62> but with the module name for your soundcard (which you can find out easily)
[11:10] <xolotl_> echo "options snd-intel8x0 index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[11:10] <geetergod> xolotl_, theres nothing going into the back of the old card
[11:10] <xolotl_> so what are you worried about it being hooked to?
[11:11] <djm62> S/DIP or whatever to the CD drive?
[11:11] <geetergod> options snd-intel8x0 index=-2 it gave me this, xolotl_
[11:11] <pepsi> only 17 packages held back now :)
[11:11] <geetergod> geetergod@cpe-66-24-86-121:~$  echo "options snd-intel8x0 index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[11:11] <geetergod> options snd-intel8x0 index=-2
[11:11] <geetergod> 
[11:11] <pepsi> mozilla-firefox is official broke-ass though
[11:12] <xolotl_> geetergod: oops, sorry - snd-intel8x0 neds to be changed to what your card / driver is
[11:12] <seth_k> haha
[11:12] <DaSkreech> Hello
[11:12] <DaSkreech> What are the breezy Repo urls?
[11:12] <geetergod> oh, hmm.. where do i find my card?
[11:12] <xolotl_> one sec...
[11:12] <seth_k> you just change all instances of Hoary to Breezy
[11:12] <seth_k> in /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:12] <DaSkreech> Ah Thanks
[11:12] <pepsi> and then cross your fingers :)
[11:12] <randabis> and break your system :) yay
[11:12] <djm62> geetergod: tee means that that phrase gets output to you as well as to the file (a T-junction)
[11:13] <xolotl_> geetergod: run # lspci and # cat /proc/asound/cards
[11:14] <robert__> I am trying to setup a dhcp client at eth0. I have modified /etc/networking/interfaces and added 'iface eth0 inet dhcp'
[11:14] <xolotl_> then go to the ALSA-project.org website and look for the driver that corresponds to your card (new one)
[11:14] <geetergod> 0 [AUDIO2000      ] : ICE1724 - AMP Ltd AUDIO2000
[11:14] <geetergod>                      AMP Ltd AUDIO2000 at 0xd800, irq 16
[11:14] <geetergod>  xolotl_
[11:14] <robert__> also..., ive added alias eth0 via_rhine in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[11:14] <Efwis> hello, can anyone help me with a little help with a new sound problem??
[11:15] <xolotl_> geetergod: then run the command like this:  echo "options snd-<YOUR DRIVER HERE> index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[11:15] <robert__> restarted /etc/init.d/networking, did ifup eth0, and it brings up the eth0 in ifconfig, but it doesn''t grab an IP from the Comcast DHCP server
[11:15] <geetergod> xolotl_, AMP Ltd AUDIO2000 is my driver?
[11:15] <thenuke> robert__: try commanding dhclient
[11:15] <robert__> thenuke: i have
[11:15] <robert__> doesn't bring it up
[11:16] <xolotl_> geetergod, nope, that'd be your card
[11:16] <dancec0mmander> can someone help me troubleshoot an internet connection issue?
[11:16] <geetergod> ICE1724?
[11:16] <synic_> anyone use a tablet pc?
[11:16] <geetergod> xolotl_, ICE1724?
[11:17] <robert__> thenuke: I have another PC with the exact same configuration, also running Ubuntu, but it grabs the IP just fine
[11:17] <geetergod> geetergod@cpe-66-24-86-121:~$ echo "options snd-ICE1724 index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[11:17] <geetergod> thats what i did
[11:18] <xolotl_> geetergod, by the looks of things, your card is brand: AMP, model: AUDIO2000 - this is likely your old card
[11:18] <geetergod> k
[11:19] <jadam> is there anyway to get ubuntu to be capable of writing to my ntfs windows partition?
[11:19] <seth_k> jadam: not recommended
[11:19] <robert__> thenuke: is there anyway I can just copy all the files from the Ubuntu config that works into the one that doesn't?
[11:19] <geetergod> xolotl_, ive been at this for hours, i'll have to let my brother take a look at it, im gettin frustrated
[11:19] <Dilkes> of these three restricted files, which one will I need for Ubuntu Hoary release 5.04 on a Pentium II 350?
[11:19] <Dilkes> #  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-386_2.6.10.5-1_i386.deb
[11:19] <Dilkes> # linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-686-smp_2.6.10.5-1_i386.deb
[11:19] <Dilkes> # linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-686_2.6.10.5-1_i386.deb
[11:19] <nalioth> jadam: there is a way, but it is not proven
[11:19] <seth_k> jadam: captive_ntfs if you realllly want to try
[11:19] <jadam> ohh
[11:19] <Dilkes> < to add support for a lucent winmodem
[11:19] <xolotl_> geetergod, looks like you're going to have to do some searching to find out what chipset that card has.  AMP and Audio2000 are not listed on the ALSA soundcards list
[11:20] <geetergod> xolotl_, ok
[11:20] <nalioth> jadam: will send the URL in a minim
[11:20] <geetergod> im gunna give it a break now
[11:20] <jadam> nah its ok
[11:20] <jadam> I dont want to ruin my windows partition
[11:20] <geetergod> xolotl_, thanks anyway, maybe i'll get it straightened out someday
[11:20] <xolotl_> geetergod, ok - I'm off to install the true system - a little advice...
[11:20] <dancec0mmander> does anyone here use roadrunner cable?
[11:20] <nalioth> jadam: check it out anyway, ya might like it  http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/
[11:20] <jadam> dance0mmander: I do
[11:20] <nalioth> dancec0mmander: i have a roadrunner account
[11:21] <robert__> anyone?
[11:21] <dancec0mmander> did you have any problems with the connection being extremely slow with ubuntu?
[11:21] <jadam> nalioth: thanks
[11:21] <jadam> no
[11:21] <jadam> I get 600kb/s
[11:21] <xolotl_> geetergod, find out which chipset your card has - then write it down - this will be the easiest way to get your card working properly.  most 3rd party cards have non proprietary chips - I mean - at the least they're likely Intel or something.
[11:22] <dancec0mmander> its not a latency issue or something with the DNS
[11:22] <dancec0mmander> it just downloads at a really crap speed
[11:22] <geetergod> xolotl_, ok i will
[11:22] <CarlFK> xolotl_ - geetergod has the lspci ID's somewhere
[11:22] <nalioth> dancec0mmander: my connection works fine under OSX, ubuntu and the dreaded winduhs
[11:22] <dancec0mmander> i reinstalled XP to troubleshoot it
[11:22] <jadam> dunno, I download at 600kb/s with ubuntu
[11:22] <nalioth> dancec0mmander: do you recycle the power at least every 2 weeks?
[11:22] <nalioth> dancec0mmander: on the modem?
[11:22] <dancec0mmander> yeah
[11:22] <dancec0mmander> the connection is fine now that XP is back up
[11:22] <dancec0mmander> but when i booted the liveCD again same deal
[11:23] <xolotl_> geetergod, come back and look for me here later if you like.  I'll try to get back in and help out once I get my system up
[11:23] <xolotl_> CarlFK, thanks
[11:23] <nalioth> dancec0mmander: so this is not on an installed ubuntu?
[11:23] <robert__> so can anyone help me figure out why one installation of Ubuntu isn't grabbing an IP from the Comcast DHCP server, but one (with the exact same hardware config) is?
[11:23] <dancec0mmander> no i did install ubuntu
[11:23] <geetergod> xolotl_, ok thanks a ton!
[11:23] <nalioth> dancec0mmander: cuz the pkgs are a little old on the cd
[11:23] <zerokills> anyone know anything about making ethernet cables? im having trouble.
[11:23] <dancec0mmander> but it happens on both the livecd and the install
[11:23] <xolotl_> geetergod, no prob
[11:24] <xolotl_> robert__, are they identical hardware?
[11:24] <nalioth> dancec0mmander: do yourself a 2x favor. go buy a cheap linksys wired router
[11:24] <robert__> yep
[11:24] <xolotl_> robert__, identical OS installs?
[11:24] <dancec0mmander> what is that going to do?
[11:24] <robert__> yup
[11:24] <zerokills> anyone?
[11:24] <zth_> hey, would somebody mind helping me setting up alsa dmix?
[11:24] <xolotl_> robert__, are they hooked into the same switch / router / device?
[11:24] <robert__> Ethernet card is fine, my connection works fine with Windows
[11:24] <jadam> yeah the lynksys is awesome
[11:24] <nalioth> zerokills: what is the trouble? its purty simple
[11:25] <nalioth> dancec0mmander: it will take out any OS questions you have
[11:25] <nalioth> dancec0mmander: iow, the OS will have nothing to do with talking to time-warner
[11:25] <zerokills> nalioth: we made a ethernet cable to run to my brother's system from the router. but we're getting no connection
[11:25] <dancec0mmander> i guess that makes sense
[11:25] <nalioth> zerokills: did you test for continuity?
[11:25] <dancec0mmander> do you have a URL for a good model
[11:26] <zerokills> nalioth: how do we do that?
[11:26] <nalioth> dancec0mmander: r u in the US?
[11:26] <dancec0mmander> this is something i can pick up at a bestbuy/circuit city right?
[11:26] <dancec0mmander> yeah
[11:26] <dancec0mmander> san diego
[11:26] <nalioth> zerokills: with a multimeter
[11:26] <Miks> why when i try to open my "users & groups" preferences, i get some error saying "child terminated with status 1" ?
[11:26] <zerokills> nalioth: nope, is that what we should do?
[11:26] <nalioth> dancec0mmander: go and buy a router from walmart, they sell a lower-brand version of linksys productes (don't remember the brand name, but its a rebranded linksys)
[11:27] <nalioth> zerokills: yes, when you manufacture something, it should be tested b4 use
[11:27] <robert__> nalioth: or he could pick up a dirt cheap 802.11b wifi modem from ebay
[11:27] <loply> how can I get the resolution above 1024x768 on gnome in ubuntu? I cant find XF86Config-4 :S (perhaps im old fashioned)
[11:27] <robert__> i wouldn't recommend anyone buying anything from walmart regardless how cheap it is
[11:27] <nickrud> loply, it's xorg.conf now
[11:27] <Dilkes> nalioth The walmart version can be reprogrammed with the alternate firmwares?
[11:28] <dancec0mmander> they are the devil but sometimes you have to be an agent of entropy, you know?
[11:28] <dancec0mmander> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833124001
[11:28] <dancec0mmander> something like this?
[11:28] <loply> nickrud: Whats all this crazy change! In my day...
[11:28] <nalioth> robert__: they got dirt-cheap wireless at wally world (or frys if you're lucky enough to be near one of those)
[11:28] <zerokills> robert__: very true, i once purchased an item from walmart for a real cheap price, and the product did not work.
[11:28] <nalioth> Dilkes: depends on which one you get
[11:28] <dancec0mmander> i can get to a frys
[11:28] <nickrud> heh, I was pissed at the -4 change
[11:29] <robert__> returning stuff to walmart will give you gray hair
[11:29] <zerokills> nalioth: can you tell me some basics about setting up the wires in an ethernet cable?
[11:29] <nalioth> loply: ubuntu hoary uses xorg, not xfree86
[11:29] <Howitzer> how do i open a .run file?
[11:29] <loply> nalioth: Ah right, I didnt know anything about that, is xorg a modern fork or something?
[11:29] <zerokills> nalioth: for instance are the wires supposed to be in a certain ordeR?
[11:29] <xolotl_> returning stuff to walmart in canada is stupid easy - even stuff that's not exactly "new"
[11:29] <Stew2> zerokills. Orange stripe orange, green stripe blue, blue stripe green, brown stripe brown
[11:29] <jadam> ok so I downloaded the nvidia glx drivers from synaptic package manager, do I have to load them? or restard the computer?
[11:29] <loply> havent used a linux desktop in qutie a while, and then it was an oldschool one
[11:29] <nalioth> dancec0mmander: then getcha a cheap wired router, unless you want a wireless (wired goes faster)
[11:29] <robert__> xolotl_: not here, the people are pricks
[11:30] <nalioth> dancec0mmander: and is more secure (no wifi eavesdropping)
[11:30] <dancec0mmander> no i don't need wireless
[11:30] <robert__> it used to be easy
[11:30] <dancec0mmander> thanks for the advice i never would have thought of it
[11:30] <robert__> but now i think they started cracking down since they got screwed
[11:30] <nalioth> loply: something like that
[11:30] <zerokills> stew2: cool, thats what we just set it up as, we're gonna try it now
[11:30] <robert__> my grandmother once returned an HP PC she bought there, after using it for four months
[11:30] <xolotl_> robert__, did you get my question about wether the systems are hooked into the same device
[11:30] <robert__> xolotl_: they're not connected to a router
[11:31] <nalioth> zerokills: each terminator has 8 sockets i believe, wire a should go from socket 1 on one end to socket 1 on the other end
[11:31] <Stew2> zerokills and it's handy to have your own 44 dollar ratcheting telemaster crimp tool
[11:31] <nalioth> zerokills: and on and on
[11:31] <xolotl_> robert__, what /are/ they connected to - same net connection?
[11:31] <Stew2> zerokills unless you have pre-made cables.
[11:31] <nickrud> loply, as I understand it, the xfree leads changed the licensing, and some others took the opportunity to fork
[11:31] <robert__> xolotl_: well, i only have 1 connected to the 3com officeconnect cable modem at a time since i don't have a router yet
[11:31] <robert__> mine died and i haven't picked up a new one yet
[11:31] <Stew2> Does anyone know where the 686 or 386 kernal package runs by default on a P2 350?
[11:32] <eyequeue> okay, a possibly dumb, completely off-topic question, but i imagine this is the population to ask it of
[11:32] <nalioth> Stew2: 686
[11:32] <dancec0mmander> ok i'm going to go pick one up, hopefully by the time i'm back here it won't be in windows
[11:32] <dancec0mmander> thanks
[11:32] <eyequeue> someone is asking me, they have one opportunity to see the revenge of the sith, basically right now, but they have not seen its predecessors.  should they go, or will they not enjoy it because they won't know the backstory?
[11:33] <xolotl_> robert__, The issue is probably that the ISP is only accepting 1 computer onto their network - the mac address of the 1 network card is the only mac addy the dhcp server will likely respond to
[11:33] <nalioth> eyequeue: they'll love it
[11:33] <mz2> hmm. is it possible to convert .tgz's to .debs?
[11:33] <robert__> xolotl_: they are the same ethernet card
[11:33] <Yea`baby`> How long does the Ubuntu free shipping take ?
[11:33] <mz2> a bizarre problem :)
[11:33] <nalioth> mz2: what kind of tgz?
[11:33] <eyequeue> nalioth:  even without the backstory?  cool, thanks, i'll tell him :)\
[11:33] <mz2> the slackware sort of tgz's
[11:33] <Efwis> ok, I have all sound events disabled. Every few minutes I have to go to terminal and do a killall esd because I start getting this "alarm" sound, How can I stop this from happening all the time
[11:33] <Stew2> nalioth  if I get #  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-686_2.6.10.5-1_i386.deb, is there an easy way to install the lt_modem.ko and lt_serial.ko into the kernal?
[11:33] <robert__> xolotl_: are you sure there's something else I haven't missed?
[11:34] <xolotl_> robert__, you mean you take the 1 network card and put it into each separate computer every time you change computers???
[11:34] <nalioth> Yea`baby`: weeks? you acn go to a local university or linux users group if you want burnt copies now
[11:34] <Yea`baby`> How long does the Ubuntu free shipping take to get shipped ?
[11:34] <robert__> xolotl_: no, i mean the hardware is the same.
[11:34] <nalioth> mz2: not sure about slack to deb
[11:34] <Yea`baby`> sorry for the repeat
[11:34] <Stew2> nalioth, Or into the folder /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/kernel/drivers/char/... which is what I meant..
[11:34] <Yea`baby`> nalioth: No one has them around :S
[11:34] <xolotl_> robert__, right - the mac address for /every/ network card is different - think of the VIN numbers on a vehicle - same colour, same make, same model, same options - different vin
[11:34] <nalioth> Stew2: moving files is easy, i'm not sure about kernel stuff
[11:35] <Stew2> nalioth, I'm reading the wiki page on the lucentwinmodem and how to get it working in ubuntu, though it assumes I'm online already, and I won't be until I get the modem installed!
[11:35] <robert__> okay, I thought the mac addys were the same
[11:35] <xolotl_> robert__, just for giggles, if you've worn out every other option, try changing the network cards
[11:35] <nalioth> robert__: mac addresses on individual parts are always the same
[11:35] <robert__> xolotl_: the thing is, I have also tried to move the HD into the PC that had it working, and that didn't work
[11:35] <Stew2> nalioth, Well, the wiki says I have to install the restricted module because the licensing is different: it's not included with ubuntu
[11:35] <robert__> the OS booted, the connection stil didn't work
[11:35] <robert__> still
[11:35] <kuntu> how do i change my mac adress ?
[11:36] <robert__> xolotl_: I am pretty sure that there is something I must've missed
[11:36] <xolotl_> robert__, ok - still just a dhcp issue then
[11:36] <nalioth> Stew2: yes, ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats is one place to look (if there is no link there)
[11:36] <nickrud> Stew2, getting that deb under windows  and doing dpkg -i  under ubuntu will work fine, I had to do something similar once
[11:36] <xolotl_> robert__, ok, lets go with that then
[11:36] <kuntu> can i apt-get tor ?
[11:36] <nalioth> kuntu: you dont, it's hard coded
[11:37] <xolotl_> robert__, *thinking*
[11:37] <bucky> kuntu, why because you got banned from #debian for trolling ?
[11:37] <kuntu> nalioth, im just like you a reall god damn lier
[11:37] <robert__> lol
[11:37] <robert__> lier
[11:37] <kuntu> you just have to set it up on the procs dir
[11:37] <seacyd> I need to transfer evolution to a new installation. How can I transfer all POP server accounts? Copying gnome2_private/Evolution does not work.
[11:37] <nickrud> Stew2, but, after it's installed, and you've got a good connection, apt-get install  the package to get apt's database up to date
[11:38] <bucky> kuntu, your hardware is too cheap and you're too stupid
[11:38] <afroman> hi guys
[11:38] <Stew2> nickrud So once I get the  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-686_2.6.10.5-1_i386.deb package for my P2 350 and save it to the windows partition, and mount the partition, what is the 'dpkg -i' command?
[11:38] <MetalWolf> hiya...
[11:38] <Stew2> nickrud: tricky, i'm in cork ireland and the phone line is shite.
[11:38] <MetalWolf> i might be doing something *really* stupid here so bear with me...
[11:38] <kuntu> bucky how do you know what hardware iv got ?
[11:38] <xolotl_> robert__, try running unpluggin the network cable, run tcpdump, plug in the network cable and see what it gives you
[11:38] <afroman> I'm having a prob...
[11:38] <nickrud> Stew2, it's roughly equivalent to rpm -i
[11:38] <robert__> xolotl_: ok, what else can you give me to try?
[11:39] <xolotl_> robert__, I assume you've checked to see if the dhcp client process is running
[11:39] <MetalWolf> I get this Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/w/wmaker/libwraster3_0.91.0-2_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch when I try to apt-get install wmaker
[11:39] <nickrud> Stew2, it that helps :)
[11:39] <afroman> I changed screens and now I can only have 640 as resolution
[11:39] <Stew2> nickrud Does it extract the .deb package to it's individual files?
[11:39] <robert__> xolotl_: well when I run dhclient it just crashes
[11:39] <MetalWolf> I did an apt-get update and I'm all up-to-date
[11:39] <MetalWolf> something I'm doing?
[11:39] <robert__> well, not sure if it crashes
[11:39] <nalioth> MetalWolf: its a problem today with us. and ca. repos
[11:39] <xolotl_> robert__, haha - ok - /now/ were getting somewhere
[11:39] <nickrud> Stew2, what it will do is unpack it, and run any configuration necessary for that package
[11:39] <kuntu> can i apt-get tor ?
[11:39] <afroman> I changed screens and now I can only have 640x480 as resolution
[11:39] <xolotl_> robert__, what's the error
[11:40] <MetalWolf> can I use the same but a gb. ?
[11:40] <Stew2> nickrud Cool
[11:40] <robert__> I haven't done ps aux|grep dhclient... so I'm not sure
[11:40] <robert__> maybe I should
[11:40] <afroman> I changed screens and now I can only have 640x480 as resolution
[11:40] <robert__> lemme boot up the other PC
[11:40] <Jorkar> Where can i find a complete list of software in Ubuntu?
[11:40] <robert__> hang on
[11:40] <xolotl_> robert__, if it's a base Ubuntu install it should be running...  worth checking though
[11:41] <nickrud> Stew2, the apt-get install --reinstall linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-686 may not be necessary, but it won't hurt
[11:41] <afroman> anybody can help me
[11:41] <robert__> xolotl_: What can I do if it's not up?
[11:41] <Stew2> nickrud Which kernal do I have if I have the one that comes with Ubuntu Hoary 5.04? Is it the 2.6.10 kernel?
[11:41] <kuntu> why are so many ppl being broght to use ubuntu ?
[11:41] <robert__> and it does just crash
[11:41] <decaf> afroman: may be, if you ask
[11:41] <kimo> afroman: problem ?
[11:41] <afroman> I changed screens and now I can only have 640x480 as resolution
[11:41] <kuntu> is it because its easlly hackable ?
[11:41] <xolotl_> robert__, what message does it give when it's crashing
[11:42] <kimo> afroman: explain
[11:42] <robert__> 1sec
[11:42] <Stew2> afroman The monitor is not sending info through the video card as to the resolution, I think
[11:42] <nickrud> Stew2, uname -r will tell you specifically what kernel version you have, but it is a 2.6.10 variant
[11:42] <Stew2> afroman, I had a similar problem.
[11:42] <xolotl_> afroman, changed screens? what do you mean? did you change a config file?
[11:42] <munki> kuntu , why are you full off stupid questions ?
[11:42] <nalioth> Jorkar: packages.ubuntu.org
[11:42] <Stew2> afroman, There's a file you need to edit and tell it what the refresh rates of the monitor are.
[11:42] <dizzie> :)
[11:42] <afroman> I meant I changed monitors, sorry
[11:42] <kuntu> because im smart
[11:42] <MetalWolf> gb. works nickrud
[11:42] <Stew2> afroman, At least that's what I needed to do.
[11:43] <Jorkar> thanks nalioth
[11:43] <kuntu> i just dont know anything about programing
[11:43] <dizzie> Define smart please :)
[11:43] <munki> kuntu , I see .
[11:43] <kuntu> smart != stupid
[11:43] <afroman> Stew2, what file
[11:43] <MetalWolf> cheers
[11:43] <Stew2> afroman I think it's the /etc/xorg.conf file
[11:44] <nickrud> nalioth, I think that thanks was yours
[11:44] <chaps0063> How can I adjust the brightness on my laptop, the current function keys do not work.
[11:44] <xolotl_> afroman, Stew2, that would be it
[11:44] <VoL_afk> XD
[11:44] <kimo> Stew2: lol, I suppose it's not easy to specify some refresh rate, right
[11:44] <Stew2> afroman I dunno too much, it wasn't this computer i'm on, so I don't have access to what I did to modify it. It was weird, a fairly nice monitor that didn't have DDC
[11:44] <nico8481> hi
[11:44] <kuntu> i think many folks here think ppl should be punished for trying to use free open software
[11:44] <afroman> and how do I edit the file?? wot do I change??
[11:44] <psychonate> kimo, easier than you think. IMO the best way is to specify the manufacturer's sync ranges; X should use the best refresh rate for each resolution then.
[11:45] <nico8481> i can't get apt-get to install mplayer-586... says it is broken or something... is it normal?
[11:45] <nickrud> Stew2, afroman it's /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:45] <Stew2> afroman Ubuntu is playing it safe by only allowing 640x480.... it was frustrating for me.
[11:45] <Jorkar> Are you sure nalioth ? This adress doesn't exist apparently
[11:45] <nalioth> nickrud: sorry? i'm just watchin the data flow by
[11:45] <xolotl_> afroman, go to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and look for Section "Screen"
[11:45] <gm78> Hey everyone. I am getting a buzzing sound coming out of my speakers with Hoary. I don't have this with CentOS and never did with Warty
[11:45] <afroman> and then..??
[11:45] <kuntu> i hate the irc god like admins
[11:45] <loply> hey folks how are you meant to change the screen res in X thesedays? Ive added 1280x1024 to xorg.conf and restarted, but it wont go into it still
[11:45] <nalioth> kuntu: can you make your horns bigger?
[11:45] <kimo> psychonate: how do u add this, the way I know is generating X mode lines, which is freaking complex
[11:45] <munki> nico8481 , get the source ? -it's not on apt-get anymore .
[11:45] <loply> either by ctrl+plus on the numpad or by the config GUI program thing
[11:45] <nickrud> nalioth, a pointer to a good repository
[11:46] <kuntu> nalioth, no but you can kiss my ass
[11:46] <nalioth> Jorkar: let me see
[11:46] <chaps0063> is there a script I can run to change the brightness on my laptop's lcd?
[11:46] <psychonate> kimo, Monitor section in your xorg.conf
[11:46] <afroman> xolotl: wot do I do then???
[11:46] <nalioth> hmmmm hmmmmm hmmmmmm
[11:46] <Howitzer> i'm having problems with RTCW:ET
[11:46] <psychonate> kimo, change the HorizSync and VertRefresh ranges to the ones recommended by the manufacturer.
[11:46] <pepsi> woooo... only 2 packages held back now :) stupid mozilla-firefox fails when i try to remove it
[11:46] <psychonate> kimo, you can usually find the ranges in your user's manual or on a monitor database.
[11:46] <gm78> I think the buzzing sound might have something to do with esd but im not sure. i switched over to alsa and it seems to be a bit better (as well as actually playing sound) but the esd process keeps opening
[11:46] <psychonate> That is what I do anyway.
[11:47] <nickrud> afroman, it that file I mentioned, you need to set the section in http://pastebin.com/299120 for your monitor
[11:47] <xolotl_> afroman, look under the sections that say: mode "1024x760" ...  and add in the resolutions of your monitor in the format "<horiz>x<vert>" "<horiz>x<vert>"
[11:47] <kimo> psychonate: lol! yeah that's easy. Is this somehow new :)
[11:47] <psychonate> Works well for me.
[11:47] <nico8481> can't xine or totem use external subtitles? it doesn't seem to work :( "xine file.avi subfile.sub" just plays the movie without any subtitle
[11:47] <nalioth> nickrud: musta missed that
[11:47] <psychonate> kimo, is it new?
[11:47] <psychonate> kimo, not that I know of.
[11:47] <nickrud> nalioth, no, you just kick out so much good info, you miss the thanks now and then :)
[11:48] <xolotl_> afroman, careful not to type out full nicks unless you get them right - use tab - otherwise irc clients won't highlight your responces / questions properly
[11:48] <nalioth> nickrud: what is the URL for packages.ubuntu* blah?
[11:48] <nickrud> lol, add a .com
[11:48] <psychonate> it's really not that hard though. I usually just google "<monitor model> specs" and get the ranges"; then put them in the xorg.conf
[11:48] <psychonate> not hard
[11:48] <kimo> psychonate: well thnx. Which one H or V, is what we usually call "refresh rate"
[11:48] <nalioth> shi***
[11:48] <Howitzer> argh
[11:48] <nalioth> Jorkar: packages.ubuntu.com
[11:49] <pepsi> vertical
[11:49] <nickrud> heh, I spent some time today on a dead path, because I looked in the wrong part of that page
[11:49] <Howitzer> i can't install the latest version of FF
[11:49] <psychonate> yeah, horizontal sync and vertical refresh
[11:49] <nalioth> Jorkar: sorry, thought everything ubuntu was org
[11:49] <psychonate> the latter causes the "flicker"
[11:49] <nickrud> Howitzer, you don't need a ff other than what's in the repositories
[11:49] <confrey> anybody knowing something about 3d support for a sis M760?
[11:49] <kuntu> why dosent any one ansers security question on this damned irc network ?
[11:49] <Jorkar> nalioth: thank you very good
[11:49] <Howitzer> it says: Fatal Errir [-618] : Couldn't open xpistub library
[11:50] <Howitzer> FF=Firefox? :/
[11:50] <nickrud> nalioth, ubuntulinux is org, ubuntu is com
[11:50] <kuntu> how do i detup a difrent mac adress at every bot ?
[11:50] <Howitzer> and RTCW:ET also gives me an error
[11:50] <nickrud> Howitzer, yes, the 1.0.2 in the repositories will have all the needed stuff from 1.0.4
[11:50] <kuntu> how do i setup a difrent mac adress at every bot ?
[11:50] <afroman> nickrud, wot is that website U gave me
[11:51] <nomasteryoda> bot/boot
[11:51] <nomasteryoda> ?
[11:51] <xolotl_> afroman, you may have to restart X in order to get it to recognize your new settings.  also - have you tried using the quick keys to get to a usable screen size?
[11:51] <gm78> Does anyone know how to get esd to quit loading all the time since i use alsa
[11:51] <gm78> ?
[11:51] <Myrtti> lag
[11:51] <nickrud> http://pastebin.com/299120 that section in /etc/X11/xorg.conf needs to be set to the values for your monitor
[11:51] <Howitzer> nickrud, i want to download some themes and extensions but the FF site doesn't allow it because i have an outdated version
[11:51] <kuntu> how do i setup a difrent mac adress at every bot ?
[11:51] <kuntu> how do i setup a difrent mac adress at every bot ?
[11:51] <kuntu> how do i setup a difrent mac adress at every bot ?
[11:51] <xolotl_> afroman, <ctrl><alt><shift> <keypad +> OR <keypad ->
[11:51] <kuntu> how do i setup a difrent mac adress at every bot ?
[11:51] <kuntu> how do i setup a difrent mac adress at every bot ?
[11:51] <kuntu> how do i setup a difrent mac adress at every boot ?
[11:51] <Howitzer> kick kuntu  :x
[11:51] <kuntu> how do i setup a difrent mac adress at every boot ?
[11:51] <Stew2> kuntu you suck
[11:51] <psychonate> kuntu, wtf is your problem
[11:51] <psychonate> die
[11:51] <nickrud> Howitzer, in about:config, search for vendorsub, and change it to 1.0.4
[11:51] <Stew2> kuntu You are sucking more..
[11:52] <xolotl_> kuntu, dude - bad idea
[11:52] <kuntu> yes so do you
[11:52] <kimo> kuntu: u cant
[11:52] <nickrud> that'll fool ff.
[11:52] <Stew2> kuntu more and more as time goes on.... the drain on the channel is palpable.
[11:52] <CarlFK> lspci shows: "Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller" - setup didn't detect it, network pref dialog doesn't see it.  anyone have any ideeas?
[11:52] <kuntu> of course i can
[11:52] <Howitzer> nickrud, could you explain me that a bit more detailed? :x
[11:52] <xolotl_> kuntu, you'll get better results if you simply be patient and change your question up
[11:52] <afroman> xolotl_, the thing is that I don\t know what rate to use
[11:52] <nickrud> Howitzer, np
[11:52] <kuntu> i can change the mac adress every boot
[11:52] <nalioth> Howitzer: in your address bar of FF, put "about:config"  search the page for "vendorsub" and chenge the number to 1.0.4
[11:53] <nickrud> in the location bar in firefox, type about:config
[11:53] <kuntu> your just holding bat the information
[11:53] <kuntu> back
[11:53] <Howitzer> omg
[11:53] <Howitzer> cool
[11:53] <Howitzer> :x
[11:53] <nalioth> i'm missing all the kuntu fun, alas, i /ignored him
[11:53] <xolotl_> kuntu, sounds like you're up to something shifty - why the heck would you want to be changing the mac every boot
[11:53] <nickrud> then, in the filter line, type vendorsub
[11:53] <Howitzer> are there any other pages like that nickrud / nalioth ?
[11:53] <pepsi> where are breezy bug reports filed at?
[11:53] <nickrud> about:plugins is the best one
[11:53] <kuntu> for privacy
[11:53] <gm78> ok, im gonna try rewording this :P The Enlightenment Sound Daemon loads every time I log in, how do I make it not load?
[11:54] <kuntu> security
[11:54] <nalioth> Howitzer: you can break your FF at that page
[11:54] <nalioth> Howitzer: or you can pimp it up
[11:54] <Howitzer> oh
[11:54] <Howitzer> lol
[11:54] <nalioth> Howitzer: tread lightly
[11:54] <kimo> kuntu: it's built into hardware. U cant change it
[11:54] <Howitzer> pimpin' :D
[11:54] <afroman> xolotl_, the thing is that I don\t know what rate to use
[11:54] <kuntu> the least the hacker know about me the better
[11:54] <CarlFK> pepsi - https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/
[11:54] <Howitzer> lol
[11:54] <confrey> anybody knowing something about 3d support for a sis M760?
[11:54] <xolotl_> kuntu,  get a router
[11:54] <arkainium> Is there an ubuntu package for devkitPro (arm/ppc cross-compiler)
[11:54] <pepsi> CarlFK, thanks
[11:54] <kuntu> you can change the way software reads it
[11:55] <kuntu> you can mask it or something
[11:55] <xolotl_> kimo, not exactly built into the hardware, but close enough
[11:55] <Howitzer> please make it work \ o /
[11:55] <jadam> ok
[11:55] <Howitzer> wooooooooo
[11:55] <Howitzer> it does work!
[11:55] <Howitzer> you two are my heroes
[11:55] <xolotl_> afroman, that's a matter for research then - gotta find out what monitor you have and what it's specs are
[11:55] <kuntu> isnt linux able to route ?
[11:55] <Howitzer> now i can FINALLY do my tabbrowsing  o /
[11:56] <hendrik> sorry folks, where am i?
[11:56] <kimo> xolotl_: it's not in hardware !! in firmware then ?
[11:56] <xolotl_> afroman, or you could run xorgconfig
[11:56] <robert__> xolotl_: ok, dhcp client definitely crashes and gives the msg "No working leases in persistant database."
[11:56] <robert__> er, dhclient
[11:56] <afroman> all right
[11:56] <robert__> This is after running ifup eth0 and then running dhclient
[11:56] <pepsi> kuntu, ifconfig <interface> hw ether <mac>
[11:57] <xolotl_> robert__, whoever is giving out your dhcp addies has no more dhcp addies left...
[11:57] <nickrud> afroman, you need to look it up in your monitor handbook, or find it on the net
[11:57] <xolotl_> robert__, or at least, that's what they're telling you
[11:57] <flodine> can someone piont me to s link to help me with my resolution 1900x1200
[11:57] <flodine> please
[11:57] <Howitzer> now i know why FF is the best again! Extensions rule you all!!!!
[11:57] <nickrud> afroman, if ubuntu did not set it up right at install, it won't when you run dpkg-reconfigure xserver.org
[11:57] <kimo> flodine: open /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:57] <robert__> xolotl_: eh, I dont think so... Comcast uses DHCP and I'm running the DHCP client here fine
[11:57] <xolotl_> rob_lt, that sitll doesn't make any sense if you traded hdds and it still wouldn't pick up an addy
[11:57] <Stew2> I'm using xchat for winblows, how come '/ignore kuntu all' doesn't work?
[11:57] <robert__> I have no router
[11:58] <flodine> kimo
[11:58] <zerokills> hey, if i type in pkill esd. how do i turn it back on?
[11:58] <flodine> ok
[11:58] <afroman> xolotl_, can U help me find my monitor resolution, I have a compaq presario v510
[11:58] <nickrud> afroman, if ubuntu did not set it up right at install, it won't when you run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org
[11:58] <robert__> root      5683  0.0  0.1   2140   976 ?        S<s  15:54   0:00 dhclient3 -pf /var/run/dhclient.eth0.pid -lf /var/run/dhclient.eth0.leases eth0
[11:58] <robert__> This is running the install that works fine...
[11:59] <flodine> kimo what do i do
[11:59] <kimo> change the resolution
[11:59] <xolotl_> afroman, did you try xorgconfig and look for your monitor in there?
[11:59] <robert__> then when I run ps aux|grep dhclient on the install that doesn't work, doesn't bring up dhclient at all, so I know it's crashing
[11:59] <afroman> I'm going to
[11:59] <xolotl_> afroman, hmm - the monitor - you need the model and make of the monitor
[11:59] <flodine> kimo i added 1900x1200 still wont see it
[11:59] <Miks> mm i already edited a file in "nano" but i dont know how to save the changes :(...how can i?
[12:00] <kuntu> how do i get  ifconfig eth0 hw ether <mac> to run every boot and to setup a random mac ?
[12:00] <kimo> flodine: u could launch xorgconfig
[12:00] <robert__> ctrl+x