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Blissexgoss: if you are afraid of editing 'xorg.conf' use one of the many utilities that generate one for you.12:01
gdhYou might aslso want to put this line in the Section "Monitor"12:01
gdh        HorizSync       30.0 - 80.012:01
gdhin case your monitor's DDC is throwing out crappy info12:01
gossright thanks12:02
gossooooo i typed in konsole: cd /etc/X11/xorg.conf isnt there12:04
monchytrying to edit it?12:04
gossyeah12:05
monchytry sudo kedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:05
_oshis there some tool to compare directories? I want to know which files are different. There are quite a few directories so a simple diff won't work well for me.12:06
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monchyanyone using kopete and having trouble sending messages via msn?12:06
gossarrrr im still getting problems editing the xorg file guys12:08
gosscd /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:08
_oshmonchy: Never used msn.12:08
gossi mean*12:08
gossit said kedit: command not found so i presume i dont have that12:08
monchytry kwrite12:08
_oshgoss: kwrite /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:09
Mezgoss12:09
Mezare you trying to use breezy?12:09
gossim just tryin to set a resoltuion i want for my LCD12:09
gossresolution*12:09
gossmy noobiness will wear off soon :)12:09
gossright kwrite failed aswell12:10
gossthis is what it said12:10
gossError: "/var/tmp/kdecache-goss" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.12:10
gossLink points to "/var/tmp/kdecache-root"12:10
gossError: "/tmp/kde-goss" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.12:10
gossLink points to "/tmp/kde-root"12:10
_oshgoss: Ok, then this "sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf". Without the quotes. 12:11
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gossguess what :(12:12
monchyno kate either @_@12:12
gossit said "communication problem with kate... it probably crashed"12:13
_oshgoss: your machines looks seriously fubar.12:13
gossmaybe its because its the first time i have ever booted it and i might have messed up an update?12:14
gossmaybe i should restart and try again lol12:14
monchyalright i'm going out, cya all later. good luck goss and don't give up ^^12:14
gosscyas mate kk cheers lol12:15
_oshgoss: what did you do before trying to mess with xorg.conf?12:15
gosserm checked control center and before that ran kynaptic and tried to update things12:17
_oshgoss: Do this. sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade12:18
_oshgoss: cut and paste the part starting with sudo to the end of the line and paste it into a shell window. 12:18
_oshgoss: tell me if you see any errors.12:19
gosswell i just typed "sudo apt-get update you want me to copy it ALL?12:19
gossyeah it said "some index files failed to download"12:19
gossnear the end12:19
_oshgoss: which ones?12:19
gossam wait12:20
gossthe dist-update thing seems to be working12:20
gossoh wait12:20
gossit said 12:20
gossError: "/var/tmp/kdecache-goss" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.12:20
gossLink points to "/var/tmp/kdecache-root"12:20
gossError: "/tmp/kde-goss" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.12:20
gossLink points to "/tmp/kde-root"12:20
gossnono not that12:20
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_mortenAloha :)12:21
gossYou may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems12:21
gossE: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?12:21
_mortenAnyone of you know a good CMS-Thingie ?12:21
gosshi morten12:21
_oshgoss: sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list12:22
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gossright osh mate will try that12:23
gossdeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted universe multiverse12:23
oshgoss: Do you know anything about the editor "vi"? Otherwise you'll need help.12:23
gossdeb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted universe multiverse12:23
goss## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch major bug fix updates produced12:23
goss## after the final release of the distribution.12:23
gossdeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted12:23
gossdeb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted12:24
gossdeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted12:24
gossdeb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted12:24
oshgoss: ENOUGH!!!12:24
goss# deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe12:24
goss# deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe12:24
gossdeb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ stable main12:24
gossdeb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main12:24
gossdeb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main12:24
oshgoss: We all know what's in that file.12:24
goss#Primary Mirror (5/17/2005) overloaded :)12:24
goss#deb http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted12:24
goss#deb http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted12:24
goss#backup Mirror - FAST12:24
gossdeb ftp://ftp2.caliu.info/backports/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted12:24
gossdeb ftp://ftp2.caliu.info/backports/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted12:24
gossno mate, sorry im afraid i only just installed linux/kubuntu 2 hours ago12:24
gossLOL12:24
gossmmm backports12:24
gossoh12:25
gossbollocks12:25
gossshould i not have copied that?12:25
goss:( 12:26
quamheh12:26
oshgoss: copied what? the only thing that should be in that files (except comments starting with #) are the lines starting with deb -something.12:26
gossnever mind then :)12:27
gossi just wanted to edit my xorg conf file12:27
gossto get the correct resolution12:27
oshgoss: apparently "vi" works for you so perhaps do a "sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf"12:28
gossright12:29
oshgoss: but something looks fishy. you shouldn't get any errors when doing a "sudo apt-get update".12:29
gossright12:29
oshgoss: can you open the file xorg.conf with vi?12:30
gossit listed alot of information about the file yes but not what i want i dont think12:30
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oshgoss: scroll down.12:31
oshgoss: it shows a lot of info about xorg.conf in the start of the file.12:31
oshgoss: try "/1024" enter. That's the search-command for 1024 in vi.12:32
Livingstone__My firefox doenst start (strace log here : http://pastebin.com/299142 )12:33
gossosh i dont think its actually opening the file, but it doesnt give me any errors12:33
gossit says some miscellanius info12:34
oshgoss: and if you scroll down?12:34
osh# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using12:34
osh# values from the debconf database.12:34
oshgoss: Something like this?12:35
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_gosshmmm12:38
_gossi just viewed the file with "vi"12:40
_gossbut i cannot edit it in the terminal as far as i know12:40
_gossbecause im not opening it ina  text editor12:40
_gosslemme look ata text editor i have and try entereing a command for that12:40
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gosshello just restarted12:43
gossosh you still there mate?12:43
quamtry nano :P12:46
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goss:P12:47
quamnano has instructions at the bottom of the screen. it's not a piece of shit like vi that just assumes you know what you're doing :p12:47
gossLOL12:48
gossty12:48
gosswill try it12:48
gosshmmmm12:48
gossi think something is universally screwing up my new install of linux12:49
quamyeah, the user :P12:49
gossKuser and Kate both dont load12:49
gosshaha true because im a noob but not to computers in general12:49
goss:P12:49
_morten............ Never got kate working in Hoary... so i just Insatlled Gedit :) and it works quite well12:54
quamkate acts like it's going to start working, puts something on my task tray, then fizzles out :p12:55
quamtask bar even12:56
penguinboycan someone recommend a GOOD DVD player?12:56
Mezpenguinboy, xine12:56
penguinboythanks Master Mez12:56
Mezsudp apt-get install xine-ui12:57
Mezsudo apt-get install xine-ui12:57
Mezcant type tongiht12:57
Mez:P12:57
quamheh, tongiht :P that was amusing12:57
penguinboylol12:58
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penguinboydoes xine not automatically start when you load the DVD?01:01
Meznope01:04
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penguinboyhow do I make it play01:05
Mezwiat...01:06
penguinboylol01:06
Mezif you already have kubuntu01:06
penguinboyand wait01:06
penguinboyand wait01:06
Mezyou should have kaffeine01:06
penguinboylol01:06
Mezyou can play DVDs with that01:06
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duendeI'm having a problem with synaptic in kubuntu, it appears that none of my packages will isntall through it.  I tried to do a apt-get upgrade through console and i get an error "`Depends' field, reference to `libc6`: version contains ` '  and then i get a seg fault message01:07
Mezduede - you'll get a better response in #ubuntu01:07
duendek, tnx01:07
penguinboyThe source can't be read.01:11
penguinboyMaybe you don't have enough rights for this, or source doesn't contain data (e.g: no disc in drive). (Error reading NAV packet.)01:11
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penguinboyhey mae01:11
maewhy is it after updating kubuntu it loses all its kubuntu customizations?01:11
maehey01:11
Tm_Teh?01:11
penguinboynever had that problem01:11
maehmm01:11
Tm_Tme neither01:12
maeafter doing a dist-upgrade you didn't lose the customizations i.e. how it says "kubuntu" on the menu etc..01:12
gdhWasn't that part of the /etc/kderc fuckup that the 'kdelibs' problem introduced?01:13
gdhthe error where 'file blablabla already present in package blablabla' kept being shown?01:14
maenot sure .. :)01:14
gdheither way, the problem is long resolved - just ensure you have 01:14
gdhdeb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted01:14
maegdh: ya i had that problem, i hacked around it by uninstalling the offending package, doing dist-upgrade, then reinstalling it.. can't remember which one it was though01:14
gdhenabled in apt.sources01:14
maei hope they fixed that by now01:14
penguinboycan you mount your Windows drive?01:15
gdhyes01:15
penguinboyI'll give you a quarter to tell me how01:15
maeheh01:15
Tm_Thaha01:16
gdhhttp://www.ubuntuguide.org/#windows01:16
maego into fstab penguinboy01:16
gdhsend your quarter via Paypal to  gdh@klub.org 01:16
gdh=)01:16
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maehaha01:16
Tm_T7dcc send gdh ~/quarter01:17
Tm_Toops01:17
gdh=)01:17
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maeI was using debian but it takes way to long to get the latest packages.. they have to stabilize them for like 10 diff architectures01:18
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Tm_Tyeah01:18
Tm_Tmae: you used stable/testing?01:18
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Tm_Tmae: try SID ;)01:18
maei was using testing..01:18
penguinboyCould not mount device.01:18
penguinboyThe reported error was:01:18
penguinboymount: can't find /dev/hda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab01:18
maeeven sid01:19
maeis using kde 3.3.201:19
Tm_Tyeah01:19
gosshi all01:19
penguinboyhey hey hey01:19
gdhpenguinboy: you have to know what the name of your partition is01:19
gdhpenguinboy: run 'cfdisk' and find your windows partition01:19
Tm_Tok, I'm off ->01:19
penguinboyit is not on a partition...it is on the master hdd01:19
penguinboyBYE Tm_T01:20
gossi just tried to change my /etc/x11/xorg.conf file so that i can have a higher resolution, as far as i know i have done it correctly but it hasnt showed up in the drop down men01:20
gossu01:20
gdhtrust me, it's a partition01:20
penguinboylol01:20
gdh'drive c:' will be a partition on a drive etc.01:20
penguinboythis just shows one drive....but I have two01:21
gosscan anyone tell me how to reset the ROOT password?01:22
penguinboy  hda1        Boot        Primary   NTFS             [ ]              80023.7501:22
gdhpenguinboy: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#windows tells you exactly what to type :)01:23
penguinboyhttp://www.linux-consulting.com/Boot/Boot.SingleUser.ForgotRootPasswd.txt01:23
gossace thanks01:24
gdhgoss 'sudo passwd'01:24
gdhbetter get used to using sudo01:24
gdh'sudo -i' will give you a root shell01:25
gossright that is what i want01:25
gosscheers i have reset my PW01:25
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gossiv been trying to set a bigger screen res for ages01:26
gosslol01:26
gossbecause the max it says i can have is 1024x768 and iwant 1280x102401:27
gdhgoss: this is an xorg thing - not specifically kubuntu / ubuntu01:27
gossand i know i have to edit xorg.conf01:27
gdhyou can try asking on #ubunbu or #xorg01:27
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gdh#ubuntu01:27
gossokies :)01:27
gdhthey'll ask you for your /var/log/Xorg log01:27
penguinboygot it gdh...thanks!01:27
gdhpenguinboy:  =)01:28
gossnah haha01:30
gossthey told me to google01:30
gossahhh01:30
gdhsounds about right :)01:30
gossyerrrp01:30
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penguinboylol01:30
penguinboythey always tell you to google01:31
penguinboylol01:31
penguinboythat is the standard pat answe01:31
gdhgoss: I'd ask again when most of them aren't either drunk or asleep :)01:31
penguinboylol01:31
gosshehe yeah01:33
gosskik01:33
gosslol01:33
goss*+01:33
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tsaphahother than having KDE has the base WM is there any diffs between kubuntu and ubuntu?01:45
gdhnop01:45
tsaphahhm, ok.  Thanks01:45
gdhKubuntu is part of Ubuntu, the only diff is the default set of packages01:46
gdhyou can always make one install into the other with a couple of apt-get installs01:46
tsaphahHmm, ok. I figured so, it just seemed like an interesting 'break' to name them something diff.01:46
tsaphahHowever they want to do it, works for me :)01:47
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MoreFXhi01:49
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MoreFXanyone arround who could help me with my wlan config (ndsiwrapper)?01:50
MoreFXndsiwrapper is installed and should be running01:51
MoreFXhowecer iwlist wlan0 scan does not show any of the ap arround me01:52
MoreFXany hints?01:52
tsaphahsorry MoreFX, I've not gotten it to work either :(01:53
quamwhat wireless hardware are you using?01:54
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MoreFXlinksys wtc54g01:56
quamyeah, people have had problems with that one01:56
quamone second lemme find the forum shit01:56
quamactually i take that back, was thinking of something else01:57
MoreFXi had it running with suse 9.2 using the same drivers - so this should not be the problem01:57
quamis that the router or the actually wireless device01:57
quamerr actual01:57
MoreFXsorry it's wpc54g01:58
MoreFXit's a pcmcia-card01:58
quamhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=564501:59
quaminstructions01:59
MoreFXthanx - I will have a look02:00
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HillTopI just installed Hoary and assume this applies to kubuntu, had Warty earlier.  How do I get from Firefox 1.0.2 to 1.0.4 so I can use extensions and themes? Thanks02:41
Tm_THillTop: ah, you "have" already 1.0.4, it's just numbered as 1.0.202:43
Tm_Tthere was a way to go around this...02:43
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Tm_Thmm, can't remember02:44
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HillTopTm_T, but I get this...  You must upgrade to version 1.0.4 or newer of Firefox before accessing the Mozilla Update web service.     ... when I try for themes, etc.02:47
Tm_Tyes02:47
Tm_T(K)Ubuntu package of Firefox have own version numbering02:48
seth_k||awayHilltop: go to about:config02:48
seth_k||awayHilltop: and change app.extensions.version and app.version to 1.0.402:48
seth_k||away^_^02:48
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Tm_Toh yes!02:49
Tm_Tthat it was02:49
HillTopOK, I'm right now in ubuntu, haven't extended to kubuntu. So I'll look at about:config. Thanks.02:49
seth_kHilltop: if you'd rather, you can use 1.0.4 from backports?02:51
HillTopOK, I changed extensions and version to 1.0.4 and it doesn't recognixze this, still wants to update.02:53
HillTopWhat is backports??02:53
seth_kHilltop: did you restart firefox?02:54
gdhseth_k: Some 'banging tunes' played then? :)02:54
HillTopseth_k, I restarted firefox, yes.02:54
seth_khaha, banging? sure02:55
seth_kHilltop: one sec02:55
HillTopseth_k, ok02:55
seth_kI'm sorry Hilltop, I referenced the wrong string. You should change general.useragent.vendorSub to 1.0.402:56
seth_k(still in about:config)02:56
seth_kand then restart Firefox02:56
HillTopseth_k, Bingo!!  Thanks.  I'll continue now -- looks like it is working.  :)02:59
seth_ksorry about the mixup before02:59
seth_kbut changing those other strings should not affect anything02:59
seth_ksince they would be changed in a real 1.0.4 anyways03:00
HillTopNope, seth_k, not working.  Complains of incompatible version of Firefox. Wants 1.0 or later. :/03:00
seth_kO__O03:01
seth_kan extension? or the addons site?03:02
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seth_kYou might try changing those earlier strings back. Just right click on them and hit Reset03:04
HillTopSo it is a different error message now, seth_k.   I tried chatzilla and Littlefox - Firefox Theme.  At least it isn't complaining about 1.0.4 vs. 1.0.4.03:04
HillTopI'll try reset...03:04
gdhSurely isn't Ubuntu's 1.0.4 simply 1.0.2 + security fixes, but none of any new features introduced in .3 and .4 ?03:05
gdh(assuming there were any)03:06
Tm_Tafaik no03:06
seth_ki don't think so either03:06
Tm_Tjust security and bug fixes03:06
seth_kI'm really hoping that resetting those strings works, b/c changing that string is all that I did to fix my Firefox :/03:06
weedarIs it possible to use iwconfig to connect to a wifi with a passhprase as a key?03:07
seth_kweedar: WPA? or WEP03:07
weedarseth_k: WEP03:08
gdhman iwconfig03:08
gdh       key/enc[ryption] 03:09
weedaraccording to the manpage it can't do it, I was looking for maybe a work-around03:09
gdh              Passphrase is currently not supported.03:09
HillTopseth_k, Bingo!! only this time I got thru chatzilla and Littlefox - Firefox Theme -- restarting firefox shows new theme.  general.useragent.vendorSub to 1.0.4 did it with resetting the others. Thanks!   :)03:09
gdhheh :)03:09
seth_kI think it can03:09
seth_kiwconfig <<INTERFACE>> key K03:09
seth_kor is that an ASCII key only03:09
seth_kand not a passphrase03:09
seth_kHilltop: phew ^_^03:09
gdhYou can also03:09
gdh              enter the key as  an  ASCII  string  by  using  the  s:  prefix.03:09
weedaras long as it contains spaces it's a passphrase I guess03:09
seth_kgdh has it03:10
seth_kthe manpage shows the example:03:10
seth_kiwconfig wlan0 key s:password03:10
weedaryes, but it doesn't accept a passphrase, just a password03:10
gdhSo what's a 'passphrase' then? 03:10
gdhvery odd.03:10
seth_ktry putting it in quotes or something?03:10
seth_kgot me03:10
HillTopseth_k, Bingo!! and chatzilla worked -- so that is both classes of addons.   Thanks!03:10
weedarI tried " quotes03:10
seth_khilltop, good to hear03:11
seth_kweedar, try over in #ubuntu03:11
seth_kthis isn't specific to KDE, so I'll bet they can help03:11
seth_kyou've tried everything I would03:11
gdhindeed, you could try any distro / generic linux channel for this :)03:11
weedarthanks for the suggestion :)03:12
seth_ksorry we couldn't help :)03:12
gdhmy brain is broken =)03:12
gdh<sips more whisky>03:13
seth_klol03:13
gdhyeh, so it's self-inflicted =)03:13
seth_kyou're not helping the bustage here03:13
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seth_kusing Konversation now03:32
seth_kwe'll see if that warrants running a whole extra program03:32
Tm_T:/03:32
Tm_Tgui in irc :/03:32
gdhseth_k: have you run 'ps fawx' recently? KDE runs a fair few programs by itself :)03:33
seth_klol :D03:33
seth_ktrue that03:33
gdhwow that's a new one on me .. "/bin/dd bs 1 if /proc/kmsg of /var/run/klogd/kmsg"03:33
gdhmust've seeemed like a good idea to somebody.03:33
randabisI like Konversation; go figure :)03:40
Tm_T:/03:43
seth_krandabis: any idea for the shortcut key to swap tabs?03:44
seth_kgood old CTRL + Tab doesn't work03:44
gdhAlt + left / right cursor03:44
seth_kgreat ^_^03:44
Tm_Tkids...03:44
Tm_T] ;=03:44
gdhor.. notice now each tab has an underlined letter in the channel name?03:44
gdhyou can alt + <that letter>03:44
seth_kooo03:45
gdhyep, the future is here03:45
seth_klol03:45
gdhwe'll have keyboards on the walls by next week and all wear foil suits03:45
randabishaha03:46
randabisTm_T: don't worry, there's always a special place in my heart for good ol' irssi03:46
gdhin a screen, far, far away :)03:47
randabismwahaha03:47
Tm_Trandabis: oh good :)03:47
randabisYeah I'll usually pull up irssi when I'm not working with X. I put it on a separate tty03:47
Tm_Theh03:48
randabisI'll use it with x sometimes, but konversation usually just loads on startup so I don't mess with it03:48
Tm_TI don't run irssi locally03:48
randabist'is on the server I suppose then :)03:49
Tm_Tyes they are in the servers03:49
Tm_T4 irssi in 3 different places03:50
randabisnifty] 03:50
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stibbyhttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards03:51
stibbydoes this page03:51
stibbyapply to kubuntu too?03:51
seth_kstibby: sure03:53
tsaphahwhat's the package name for firefox?03:53
seth_ktsaphah: either firefox or mozilla-firefox, depending on your Ubuntu version03:54
Tm_Tmozilla-fiefox03:54
Tm_Tr03:54
tsaphahah, thanks03:54
randabistsaphah: depends on what repo you're using03:55
randabisin ubuntu backports there's a dummy package mozilla-firefox and then the new package is just firefox03:55
seth_kyep, and firefox provides mozilla-firefox03:55
seth_kfor compatibility03:55
randabiscorrect03:55
tsaphahhmm, well is found it under mozilla-firefox, but not just firefox03:56
seth_ktsaphah: then you're using vanilla hoary03:56
stibbydoes anyone here use a wireless PCI card 102.11b that is picked up during the install?03:57
tsaphahIs that bad? or what exactly does that mean?03:57
stibbyi am in need of one03:57
seth_ktsaphah, that's fine03:57
tsaphahok03:58
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weijie90hi03:58
weijie90anyone home>03:59
tsaphahmore or less, what's up weijie? Just ask your question :)03:59
seth_kyeah, small talk is for #debian :D03:59
gdhwe deal with the searing issues of the day.04:00
gdh"GNOME teh suq" - more at 11.04:00
seth_krolleye04:01
randabisstibby: couldn't find any on the list?04:01
weijie90i got sick of gnome04:01
seth_kgood04:01
weijie90hows kde04:01
randabisstibby: you could always just get a wireless g card...They should still work on b networks04:01
gdhgnome feels like being trapped in a beautifully-designed room that is just far far far too small.04:01
randabiskde brings balance to the force04:01
weijie90lol04:01
randabiskde is like a big bed with tons of throw pillows and frilly blankets on it04:02
randabisyou can take all the fluff off if you want04:02
gdhYes :)04:02
gdhgod we're good.04:02
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=== randabis grins
weijie90:D04:03
Tm_They! that's sexual!04:03
Tm_Tyou pervert04:03
randabissexual chocolate04:03
weijie90any differences between openoffice and koffice?04:03
gdhTm_T: you have genitalia on your back?04:03
weijie90lol04:03
gdhweijie90: Koffice is fast, but Openoffice is good :)04:03
Tm_Tgdh: not really... as you well know04:03
seth_kKOffice doesn't take 11 days to compile from source?04:03
seth_kDo I win?04:03
gdhhahaha :)04:04
gdhdamn the secret's out04:04
randabishaha04:05
weijie90i wish theres a good linux alternative for powerpoint thats as easy to use04:05
randabisoo.o does take an eternity to compile04:05
gdhwho gives a shit about compiling - it takes 10-20 seconds to /open/04:06
gdh*boggle*04:06
seth_kweijie90: Impress is pretty dern good04:06
seth_kexcept for secondary screen presentations04:06
seth_kthat stinks04:06
seth_khave you tried the 2.0 betae?04:06
seth_kmmmmm04:07
Tm_Terrr, who need any PP like stuff?04:07
weijie90whats secondary screen presentations04:07
seth_kstudents? salesmen? teachers?04:07
gdhTm_T: oddly, people with day jobs :)04:07
Tm_TI got once a PP stuff in email04:07
seth_kweijie90: where you show the powerpoint on like a projector hooked to your computer04:07
seth_kinstead of right on your monitor04:07
Tm_Tthere was 2 lines of text and tons of ugly "eyecandy"04:07
weijie90oh04:07
weijie90i use ppt for my school projects04:08
weijie90my school sucks04:08
gdhTm_T: yes but that was sent by the same sort of people who don't know how to use a computer, who'd just paste multiple pictures into a word .doc because they don't know how to do anything else.04:08
weijie90it uses windows for everything04:08
gdhthe world uses windows for everything, so it's not as if it's doing you wrong :/04:08
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weijie90it restricts access to the "run" and a lot of other stuff but i made a batch file to get access to a dos window04:09
randabishmm, I'll cringe at the day I need powerpoint for commercial truck driving :p04:09
gdhif that cunt Jobs had got in and spammed your school with Macs, then I'd be worries.04:09
randabisaww macs are cute :p04:09
gdhGates is a businessman, he just wants your money. There's nothing wrong with that. Jobs is a cunt, he wants your soul.04:09
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randabisThere definitely is some truth to that04:10
randabisJust look at ipod owners04:10
gdhyep all those millions of people 'thinking different' :) way to go, guys.04:10
randabisit's like a cult :p04:10
weijie90why is ipod bad?04:11
weijie90theres ipod-linux too04:11
randabisheh and just asking to get mugged with those white earbuds04:11
gdhApple give you a device which has half the features at twice the price04:11
randabisthere's been over 12,000 ipod jackings to date04:11
gdhrandabis: and every single one deserves it :)04:11
gdhpoetic justice04:11
randabislolz04:11
weijie90any cheap and better aternatives?04:12
randabisgotta confess though, my sister does have an ipod mini :p04:12
gdhweijie90: Look at any of the 'iAudio' products - /beautiful/ devices.04:12
randabisweijie90: creative has a good lineup, IAudio is good too04:12
gdhif you want cheap, there are no end of no-name taiwanese imports04:12
seth_kI got my 40GB 3G iPod for $60, I'm not complaining :)04:13
randabishaha04:13
weijie90lol i have a really cheap singapore dollars $99 mp3 player 256mb but the features are less than average04:13
randabisI used to have an archos mp3 player with a 20gig hard drive04:13
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Tm_Twhoa04:13
randabisit stopped working though so I took out the hard drive and put it in my laptop when my laptop's hard drive crapped out on me04:13
seth_khaha, that's being resourceful04:14
gdhthe ipod shuffle is on the most stupid premise anywya - I *WANT* to hear an album in the order that the artist recorded it, thanks.04:14
randabisyeah04:14
seth_kgdh: gotta market flaws as features! :O04:14
randabisthe hard drive in the laptop was really old (only like 6 gigs) so it was all good04:14
gdhuuuuurrrgggg04:14
seth_kalthough to be fair, you can turn the shuffle off with a switch on the back04:14
randabisthat laptop is old, but runs kubuntu fine04:14
gdhseth_k: Don't cloud the argument with facts :)04:15
randabishehe04:15
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seth_kerm, I'm not in #gentoo04:15
gdh<OMGOMG 0.5% SPEED INCREASE USING -O7!!!"?"!?!"?!"?"!??!!"!">04:15
seth_kthat's where they refuse to acknowledge that compiling from source does NOT make any system equivalent to my 3GHz04:15
randabisgotta love having a full featured OS that runs at a reasonable speed on only 450 mhz and 224 mb of ram :p04:15
randabisgdh: HAHA lolz I rice my gentooz04:16
seth_komai, i use teh gentoo so my 450MHz box pwns j00 3GHz box!!!!111ONEONEELEVEN04:16
seth_k:D04:16
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kalenedraelhaha04:16
seth_kor in America's Army: "haha noob I fragged j00 cause I use teh gentoo!!"04:16
gdhhelp yourselves, ladies and gentlemen :)04:16
kalenedraelfunroll-loops.org04:16
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gdhthat site's one of my favourites :)04:17
gdhnow with 20% less bloat (apparently)04:17
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weijie90i tried gentoo04:17
randabisI used to BE gentoo lolz04:17
weijie90i couldnt get my eciadsl driver to connect like it did on ubuntu04:17
randabisyes, I was a ricer for a time, until I slapped some sense into myself04:18
kalenedraeli have better things to do with my time than compile each program from source for a 2% speed increase04:18
weijie90and i wanted kde04:18
seth_kimo that's Ubuntu's single greatest feat04:18
seth_ksuch good hardware compatibility04:18
weijie90lol04:18
randabisyeah yeally04:18
randabisreally even04:18
gdhI don't suppose Canonical would be too keen on a slogan of "It just fucking works, OK?"04:18
seth_knope04:18
seth_kI think that violates something in the Code of Conduct04:18
randabislolz04:19
seth_kthey looooove the Code04:19
seth_khehe04:19
gdhaye, or some of that debian hippy shit they inherited :)04:19
weijie90how do i use a usb mp3 player on linux?04:19
randabisplug it in04:20
weijie90if i dont remove the device safley in windows it will malfunction and wont work04:20
weijie90do i "umount" it or what04:20
randabisif it is supported it should probably mount itself if hal is working04:20
randabisyeah you would umount it04:20
seth_kmmm, gotta love synergy04:20
seth_k$productivity++;04:20
weijie90hmm... normally what device is it listed in? /dev???04:21
weijie90is it /dev/???04:21
weijie90or sda04:21
randabisit would more than likely mount itself in /media04:21
kalenedraelyeah04:21
randabisbut you SHOULD get an icon on the desktop if it works04:21
weijie90ooh04:21
kalenedraelor in konqueror's devices tab04:22
randabisyeah04:22
gdhyou've no idea how much background work was involved in getting all that hal nonsense to work =)04:22
gdhit's 2005 and finally linux users get an auto icon when they put a CD in04:22
randabisI don't even wanna think about it04:22
gdhteh fj3ar04:22
randabisit'd make my head explode04:22
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randabisnow we just need the damn eject button to work without needing to pass umount to the cdrom :p04:23
weijie90how much has linux responded to the haloween document?04:23
randabisI just type eject anyway but go figure04:23
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weijie90http://lwn.net/images/ns/impress.jpg im pretty impressed now. 04:24
gdhweijie90: It went 'wwwoooOOOOOOOooooo!"04:24
weijie90Impress on oOo does work04:24
weijie90lol04:24
randabishaloween document?04:24
weijie90some confidental but leaked memo in microsoft04:24
weijie90on how to kill linux04:25
gdhYeh, MS 'internal' propoganda04:25
kalenedraelfor all your anti-MS needs, go to fuckmicrosoft.com04:25
randabismeh04:25
randabisthat page never gets updated04:25
weijie90im not really a bill-basher04:26
monchyhe's a good guy, donates to alot of charities04:27
gdh:)04:27
gdhcynics would say purely for tax breaks.04:27
weijie90is konqueror or firefox better04:27
seth_ktry both, use to taste04:27
seth_kkonqueror is the IE of Linux :P built-in to KDE04:27
monchykonq 3.5 will be better04:27
monchyguarenteed04:28
gdhwhen konq works with maps.google I'll be happy :)04:28
seth_kI use Firefox b/c KHTML is... meh04:28
randabisatm I use firefox more, but konqueror and khtml aren't bad04:28
monchy:o04:28
weijie90i think that file-browser and webpage browser combined is cool04:28
randabisit's alright I suppose04:29
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randabisprobably an extension out there for firefox to do the same thing or similar04:29
weijie90some pages dont work well with firefox but are ok for IE04:30
gdhif it doesn't work in FF, the web designer should be publically hanged04:30
Octaneany guides on getting alsa to work properly?04:30
seth_kI ran IE6 in Wine and it brought down my entire computer :D ONLY program that has ever crashed the entire Kubuntu04:30
seth_kOctane: with mixing and stuff?04:30
Kamping_Kaiserlol04:30
Octaneseth_k no just getting the damn thing to work04:31
OctaneLOL04:31
seth_kheh04:31
Octanei think arts was working before or whatever04:31
Octanefuck i forgot how much of a pain in the ass it is to start with a fresh nix system04:31
gdhalsa does nothing for me but add latency :/04:31
seth_kit should set everything up for you if you install vanilla kubuntu... you get no sound at all?04:31
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learninghi all04:31
gdhso I stick to good ol' OSS /dev/dsp drivers04:32
Kamping_Kaiserhi04:32
seth_k:O OSS04:32
seth_kblasphemy04:32
weijie90is apt-build good?04:32
Octaneseth_k i had sound but then amarok wasnt working04:32
Octanei forgot what i did now i dont have sound04:32
penguinboyhey learning04:32
Octanethe problem is that all my h/w is so new04:32
Octanei cant even get firefox to hav flash04:32
gdh<shrug> when I drag the play-bar it jumps to that point in the track immediately not a few hundred milliseconds after04:32
Octanebecuase i have a 64 bit machine04:32
Octaneand flash 64 bit is nto even out yet04:32
Octaneso i can either not use flash or downgrade to firefox 3204:33
learningi have a question it has been going on for about a month now for some reason mysystem seems to "lag" for lack of better words and i'm not sure if its the hdparm.conf settings or what04:33
learningbut its really annoying04:33
seth_kGUI lags? disk access lags?04:33
learningi restart and then after say an hour its back to how it was04:33
learningthe gui lags04:33
learningas if if the harddrive is having a hard time04:33
learninggetting the input from the i/o request04:33
learningi did a vmstat and there is like 256 CS 04:34
kalenedraelOctane, you're on linux, right?04:34
kalenedraeler, firefox on linux04:34
gdhkalenedrael: :D04:34
learningprocs -----------memory---------- ---swap-- -----io---- --system-- ----cpu----04:34
learning r  b   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   so    bi    bo   in    cs us sy id wa04:34
learning 0  0   2788  30520  43852 268820    0    0    66    23 1052   535 26  7 67  104:34
learningisn't that 535 a bit high?04:35
gdhlearning: erk, that's a lot of switching...04:35
learningyeah i know04:35
gdhyeh it is04:35
learningbut i have no clue how to resolve it04:35
gdhoh, hang on04:35
Octanekalenedrael: yah im kubuntu04:35
learningwould it be a read ahead parm or something?04:35
Octanekalenedrael oh youre in #nvidia too hi there :)04:35
gdhmy own system is doing about 800 cs per second, and it's idle...04:35
gdhwtf?04:35
gdhand it's an elderly p3-65004:36
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learningthere you go04:36
learningthats what i was wondering04:36
gdhahh04:36
learningbefore it was like 100 tops iirc04:36
gdhnspluginviewer is occupying 99% CPU04:36
learningbut now its way p there04:36
nmorseIs Breezy actually going to have a graphical installer?04:36
gdhmust've crashed hours ago04:37
weijie90hmm.. how old are u guys04:37
learningi'm 304:37
randabisprocs -----------memory---------- ---swap-- -----io---- --system-- ----cpu----04:37
randabis r  b   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   so    bi    bo   in    cs us sy id wa04:37
randabis 2  0 204212   4284   6824 166092    2    2    98    63    2    56 27 10 61  204:37
gdhweijie90: 10704:37
nmorse1704:37
randabiswee04:37
weijie90im almot1504:37
learningrandabis, i hate you :p04:37
learningyour just 500 cs below me haha04:37
seth_knmorse: yep04:37
nmorseweijie90: I started using Linux when I was 1404:37
seth_knmorse: http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDownUnder/BreezyGoals04:37
randabislol04:37
learningso any idea how to resolve this cause its really annoying04:37
randabisno clue sir04:38
weijie90when i was 13 i had bad expierences with RED HAT 904:38
randabisis dma on?04:38
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learningand my system is a p4 3.2 with 512 meg or ram and it shouldn't be draggin like this04:38
seth_kRed Hat 9 turned me off of Linux for a year :D04:38
weijie90cos of modem driver eciadsl04:38
seth_kthen Mandrake 9 turned me off for ANOTHER year04:38
nmorseI started with Debian 2.1, then Red Hat 8 & 9, SuSE 8.204:38
seth_kSuSE 9.1 saved Linux for me04:38
learningyeah dma is on04:38
seth_kand now Kubuntu is the sechs04:38
nmorseWent back to Debian, played with Mandrake and a dozen others, went to Gentoo, wound up here04:38
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learningi jus tdon't understand what is causing all that stuff04:39
weijie90when i was 12 and stupid i rezised the winxp partition and destroyed my siblings data04:39
nmorsesuckage04:39
learningwhat is your hdparm.conf or have yo changed any of those settings04:39
learningmaybe thats my problem04:39
=== learning postes his hdparm.conf to flood
seth_kuse pastebin, is easier04:40
seth_khttp://www.pastebin.com/04:40
nmorseweijie90: stick with linux for a few years and you'll know way more than anyone else when you go to college if you go into a computer degree04:40
gdhyeh , a click is easier for us lazy people =)04:40
weijie90thanks04:40
weijie90i plan to do that04:40
penguinboyThe Amazing Adventures of PenguinBoy...www.penguinboy.us04:40
monchydon't forget orneryboy04:40
nmorseI start Comp Sci at TU in August04:40
gdhpenguinboy: Does this need an AdultCheck ID?04:41
weijie90i hope university does not teach me visual basic04:41
seth_kgdh: doesn't look like it, just a blog04:41
penguinboylol04:41
gdhweijie90: Cross your fingers it teaches somethign useful like C#04:41
nmorseThey start with Java these days04:41
penguinboylol04:41
randabislearning: my hdparm.conf is completely default04:41
nmorseThen you move on to a specialty04:41
weijie90MIT..?04:41
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nmorseI'll probably look at comparative languages04:42
nmorseNo idea what MIT does04:42
nmorseI'm going to the University of Tulsa04:42
weijie90im stil in secondary 3, or whatever it is in the usa when u are 1504:42
nmorseCould have gone to MIT04:42
nmorseor West Point04:43
gdh:)04:43
weijie90i read about the MIT hacks04:43
nmorseBut I really wanted to go to Hawaii04:43
nmorseNot enough money, though04:43
weijie90i gtg04:43
nmorseCould have gone to Yale or Harvard too04:43
weijie90bye guys04:43
nmorsesee you04:43
penguinboynight04:43
learningok04:43
learningmind posting yours04:43
nmorseNational Merit Scholar opens a lot of doors04:43
learningill try it04:43
learningcause like i say it was fast then i tried to optimize and i think i jacked p the hdparm.conf file04:43
weijie90hmm... its morning is singapore04:43
gdhCould've been a surf bum, but joined the army instead =)04:43
gdhwhat an epitaph04:43
nmorseThe army?04:44
gdhisn't that what west point is infamous for?04:44
gdhI'm in the UK,so you'll have to excuse my ignorance of the US :)04:44
nmorseYeah, the Army officer training04:44
nmorseCome out 2nd Lieutenant04:44
nmorseFirst guys out of the foxholes04:44
gdhThat sounds kinky.04:45
nmorseBoot camp for normal people is 6 weeks04:45
nmorseThey lock you up for your first year at West Point04:45
gdhBuilds character, or something.04:45
gdh<boggle>04:45
penguinboygdh lol04:45
nmorseBeats me why they do it04:45
gdhBeats them too, I'll wager04:46
penguinboylol04:46
gdh'The beatings will continue until morale improves' etc.04:46
nmorseProbably not04:46
randabisI'll go to shoe camp04:46
learningrandabis, did yo past that ?04:46
randabisor pillow camp04:46
nmorseAfter the first year, they teach you tennis and gof04:46
gdhIs there a slipper camp?04:46
gdhhaha04:46
nmorsegolf*04:46
gdhhahaha :)04:46
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randabishehe04:46
penguinboyLoose women lying in ponds, passing out swords, is no basis for a system of goverment!04:47
gdhhahha :))04:47
gdhLady of the lake, indeed.04:47
learningcan someone please post me the default hdparm.conf 04:47
nmorseMonty Python, classic dry British wit04:47
gdhCamelot! (it's only a model) (shaddap!)04:47
penguinboywonderful British humor04:47
KoalaEvening.. I just installed 5.04PPC of Kubuntu on a G3 laptop and I have a problem with the video I hope someone can help me with..04:47
penguinboyI have never had success with Kubuntu and laptops04:48
gdh# ... we eat ham and jam and spam a lot :)04:48
nmorseWorks on mine04:48
penguinboySpam...I love it!04:48
nmorseSpam! Spam! and Eggs!04:48
nmorseOr do you want Spam, spam, spam, and eggs?04:48
seth_kI'm running kubuntu on a laptop *shrug*04:48
seth_kbut PPC *shudder04:48
randabislearning: one sec04:48
nmorseCouldn't get it to work on my G3 iMac04:48
nmorseOne of the grape ones04:48
penguinboyI think I;ll have the spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, and eggs but hold the eggs, please!04:49
nmorse333 mHz04:49
gdhseth_k: I hope you let all the Mac weenies see that you're 'wasting' a Mac bby not running OS X :)04:49
learningk04:49
nmorseGood, choice penguinboy 04:49
nmorse333mHz and 96 MB of RAM isn't wasting much04:49
gdheek :)04:49
seth_kgdh; I'm not running a Mac! :O04:49
KoalaMany of the window title bars have  graphic corruption.. vertical bars or dots..  once in a while the entire colors of the screen look psychadelic, and on certain parts of the screen there is corruption where the mouse moves.. ie) in the letters of kubuntu on the desktop when i move the mouse there it fills up with blue pixels..04:49
seth_kgdh: the very thought! *shudder*04:49
penguinboyi could never get Kubuntu to recognize my wireless04:49
seth_kgdh: that Koala guy is04:50
nmorseMy first linux box was 350 mHz with 128 MB04:50
gdhseth_k:  ah k , misunderstood04:50
nmorseKoala: did you see if your model has a known issue like that?04:50
KoalaI'm using a G3 333, with 384 MB of RAM.. it runs really snappy.. if it wasn't for this video issue...04:50
gdhmy first linux box.. actually wasn't a box.. was a motherboard, VESA local bus and ISA network card all wedged down the back of my desk04:50
gdhit fit really nicely in the gap04:50
nmorseNice04:51
nmorseThat's some computer04:51
penguinboykewl gdh04:51
gdhsurprisingly reliable :)04:51
Koalanmorse: I've search the ubuntu message boards but come up with nothing...04:51
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gdhAnd my "P75 in a cardboard box" was a local legend.04:51
nmorseDid you check the Supported Hardware wiki?04:51
penguinboyWelcome Ben_Babcock04:51
nmorsegdh: you're insane04:51
randabislearning: http://pastebin.com/29922304:51
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learningthank you04:51
gdhnmorse: I even cut the holes out for the keyboard/nic / serial :))04:51
KoalaI've tried Ubunto with gnome.. the desktop has no corruption BUT any video such as divx is filled with white shimmering pixels.. plus Gnome seems much slower than KDE04:51
nmorseTry it in Legos04:52
gdha fire hazard,  yes, but much cooler than that :D04:52
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Koalanmorse: do you have a link for that?04:52
nmorseNo corruption in GNOME?04:52
randabisI share your last name Ben04:52
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nmorseNo corruption in GNOME at all?04:52
nmorseHmm04:52
nmorsegdh: check out mini-itx.com04:52
penguinboyWelcome Albert...pull up a chair...and warm yourself by the fire!04:52
gdhUm Bongo is fun =)04:52
nmorsethat's crazy computer stuff04:52
randabisGnome is corrupt. :p they pullin' a conspiracy04:52
gdhnmorse: hehe yes seen that... PC in a humidor etc. =)04:52
Koalain GNOME, no.. just when watching videos with totem or vlc etc..  But in KDE it's in the desktop.. haven't even tried videos yet in KDE04:53
nmorseI like the Red Hat and Windows box one04:53
randabismac mini :)04:53
gdhrandabis: the mac mini one /is/ stupid =)04:53
nmorseMac Mini's are hard to replicate with x86 stuff04:53
nmorseThey can't even fit a CD in04:53
nmorseI like our actual Mac Mini04:53
gdhreplacing a lovely fast machine with VIA c3 crap =)04:53
nmorseExactly04:53
nmorseAnd not even making it a MythTV box04:54
randabismeh thar be powerpc in the mini though04:54
gdhindeed, I have a C3 for my VDR box...04:54
gdhright tool for the job, etc.04:54
Octanei know ctrl+alt+bspace is to restart x but whats the command to exit it04:54
seth_kthat's really the command to kill X. It just auto-restarts04:54
gdhOctane: You just right click on the desktop and select Log Off04:55
nmorseYeah, the auto-spawn can be turned off04:55
gdhLog Out...04:55
nmorseor a sudo killall kdm04:55
Octanei know but im in kdm04:55
gdhdrop to a console and /etc/init.d/kdm stop04:55
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nmorseKilling is good for you04:55
nmorseTry an xkill sometime04:55
Octaneah great thanks04:55
gdhdeath is natural04:55
nmorseor a kill -904:55
gdhxkill is fun with KDE ,, just Ctrl-Alt-Escape04:55
gdhto get the skull-and-crossbones cursor04:56
gdhthat will kill any window you like04:56
nmorsedidn't know that04:56
gdhneither did I until this week =)04:56
nmorseI killed my wallpaper04:56
gdhyou heartless swine! :D04:56
seth_kreally? i had to learn that way back in the day, when Red Hat crashed all the time :P04:56
penguinboyI once kiled a guinea pig04:56
seth_kand Gnome can't do it04:56
nmorseStupid wallpaper04:57
gdhnop04:57
nmorseMy whole root window crashed04:57
learningrandabis, is that complete?04:57
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nmorseHang on, I'll take a screenshot04:57
gdhpenguinboy: I think you're in the wrong channel :)04:57
learningcause mine had some script stuff in it04:57
penguinboylol04:57
learningthat i know i didn't put there04:57
randabislearning: I believe so04:57
randabislearning: wait04:57
learningmind double checking please?04:57
penguinboylet me just /join #Spport Group for Guinea Pig Killers04:57
randabisit wasn't complete04:57
gdhAgh, you're up too late when you get emails from the overnight cronjobs04:58
randabislearning: I just viewed it in nano and there's more...I used less before :/04:58
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nmorseHmm, where to upload this lovely screenie04:58
KoalaHmmm... no one with any ideas? - Video card in the laptop is a Rage PRO LT 8MB..04:58
penguinboyWelcome Quentin...what will you be drinking this evening?04:58
nmorseNo idea, Koala04:58
nmorseIs there a PPC channel?04:58
penguinboyyes04:58
penguinboytype /join #ppc04:59
nmorse#ubuntu-ppc?04:59
Koalano-one in #ppc04:59
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nmorseKoala: did you ask in #ubuntu?04:59
penguinboylooks like it was moved off channel04:59
nmorseAnyone know what the command to restore my desktop is?05:00
nmorsekdesktop?05:00
KoalaFor the ubuntu problems.. but not for kubuntu issues05:00
nmorsekdesktop indeed05:00
nmorseWhat video driver are you using?05:01
nmorseHmm, is Breezy's graphical installer going to be just a tie-in to d-i?05:02
gdhd-i has a graphical mode?05:02
nmorseNo, but it can be tied into05:03
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gdhI don't get what the obsession is over a mouse-driven interface...05:03
gdhthe hoary installer asks about 4 questions05:03
nmorseThere's no GUI fo it yet due to Debian's 11 architecture mess05:03
nmorseI like the normal d-i myself too05:03
nmorseI particularly like tasksel05:03
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gdhif the magazines give a whole distro a bad review because the installer didn't jerk them off, that's not much to worry about05:04
nmorseBeats me why tasksel isn't in the installer for us to use05:04
gdhtasksel is horrid :)05:04
nmorseI love tasksel05:04
nmorseIt makes it easy to define between server, desktop, gaming box, debian jr., etc.05:04
Koalahmmm.. sigh.. this sucks.. everything else seems to be working well..05:04
gdhwoody.... do you want to run tasksel? NO! .... do you want to run dselect? sweet jesus NO! :D05:04
nmorseGod forbid dselect should come back05:05
gdhdselect is Debian at its finest - function over form.05:05
nmorseany form that is05:05
randabisheh05:07
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KoalaHere's the weird thing.. I changed the window decoration from Plastik to Keramik and the corruption disappears...  It appears to happen only with Plastik05:11
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learningrandabis, i never got that file :(05:17
grantlyi need help05:18
penguinboyask05:18
learningthis is slow as crap is it not ?05:18
learning/dev/hda:05:18
learning Timing cached reads:   368 MB in  2.02 seconds = 182.12 MB/sec05:18
learning Timing buffered disk reads:   48 MB in  3.04 seconds =  15.80 MB/sec05:18
grantlywhen I download programs I dont know how to install them (such as tar.gz files)05:18
penguinboydon;t download tarballs...they are too difficult to install from05:19
penguinboyuse Synaptic05:19
grantlywhat if the programs not in there05:19
penguinboyit should be05:19
gdhyou have enabled the 'universe' repository?05:20
penguinboyare all of the repositories checked in Synaptic?05:20
grantlyumm i dont know05:20
penguinboywhat are you looking for?05:20
penguinboygrantly: you do have Synaptic insyalled?05:20
grantlyyes05:20
penguinboyk05:20
penguinboyclick on settings and then repositories05:21
penguinboymake sure all are check marked05:21
grantlyok hold on 05:21
randabistar.gz isn't hard to install from :p (if you know what you're doing)05:21
penguinboylol05:22
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nmorsenot on slack maybe05:22
gdhyou will just generally need a shitload of -dev packages installed :)05:22
nmorseor with alien05:22
penguinboyimportant part...if you know what you are doing LOL05:22
nmorseif it's a slack package, alien will actually convert it05:22
nmorseAlien is a neat program05:22
penguinboyyes it is05:22
scanwinderis there an equivilant to "manage third party software" from ubuntu in kubuntu?05:22
grantlythere are no check marks to check just a list 05:23
nmorsecrud, it'll still make Stampede packages05:23
grantlynevermind found it05:23
penguinboythere should be check boxes05:23
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gdhoo Stampede :) isn't that what Gentoo became?05:23
penguinboywb kk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!05:23
gdhthe start of the whole 'optimised for modern CPUs' nonsense05:24
gdh0.05% faster. wewt.05:24
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gdh:)))05:25
nmorsewhat became Gentoo, actually05:25
gdhnmorse: Yes, taht's what I meant =)05:25
grantlywhat if I cant find a program in synaptic then how do i install it05:25
nmorseWhat package05:25
nmorse?05:25
gdhgrantly: with difficulty =)05:25
grantlyjust anything05:25
gdhthere ain't no SETUP.EXE here...05:25
nmorseTry Corel Photopaint05:25
randabisyou must use the force05:25
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nmorseThat's a linux program that's hard to install05:25
penguinboyThe Gimp05:25
nmorseMostly because the stuff it depends on is god-awful and deprecated05:26
nmorseUse Krita, not the Gimp05:26
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penguinboywb05:26
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randabisthe gimp gets all the chicks though lawl05:27
gdhit's the rubber mask, I tell ye.05:27
randabisyayez05:27
gdhbrings out the dominatrix in them all05:27
randabisfo' shizzle05:28
penguinboymy Synaptic is stuck05:28
gdhon that note - it's getting light - I should go to bed.05:28
penguinboyngiht gdh05:28
gdhstay black, niggas =)05:28
seth_khaha05:28
nmorsenight05:28
seth_knight gdh05:28
penguinboylol05:28
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randabishehe05:30
penguinboyhow can I force Synaptic to shut doen?05:30
NowhereMananybody bravely using kubuntu on PPC?05:30
randabiskillall synaptic?05:30
seth_kpenguinboy: CTRL ALT ESC then click on it05:30
monchyhm cdrdao is missing from the repositories05:30
seth_kif you're in KDE05:30
seth_kotherwise what randabis said05:30
seth_kmonchy: it's in universe iirc05:31
grantlyhow do I fix this in synaptc when i try to add reposotories05:31
grantlyW: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net testing Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B90705:31
penguinboyKEWL05:31
seth_kanswer: don't use marillat repos05:31
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seth_kif you need something in there, use backports instead05:31
randabismarillat is teh devil05:31
randabislolz05:31
seth_kit is at least teh bustage05:32
monchydon't see it05:32
seth_kmonchy: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/otherosfs/cdrdao05:32
seth_kit's in universe05:32
monchyaha, thank you05:33
seth_kuse (s|k)ynaptic to yoink it though05:33
seth_kdon't install directly if you can help it05:33
monchyi did, searched for it and it did not come up05:33
seth_kyou have universe repos enabled?05:33
seth_ksudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the # marks from the 4 universe lines05:34
monchywas already done oO05:34
seth_kermm05:34
seth_kdid you reload?05:34
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seth_kit should be there05:34
monchyyeah reloaded05:35
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monchyah i'll figure it out, it can't just dissapear lol05:35
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penguinboynote to self...do not CTRL-ALT-ESC and then click on the taskbar05:36
seth_kheh05:36
monchythink i'll give core 4 a whirl while i'm screwing around05:36
penguinboyIs Fedora Core 4 any improvement over Fedora Core 1-3?05:38
seth_ksure, it went from terrible to bad05:39
seth_k:D05:39
monchylol05:39
penguinboylol05:39
penguinboylol05:39
penguinboylol05:39
seth_k</randomdistrobash>05:39
penguinboydoes life get any better than Kubuntu?05:39
monchywell i tried earlier but anaconda really fu*ked things up05:39
monchyi'm just determined i don't like when i can't make things work05:39
penguinboyperhaps I should loan you my IBM Thinkpad R40 and see if you can get the wireless to work in Kubuntu05:40
penguinboysadly I cannot05:41
monchycan i keep it05:41
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penguinboylol05:41
monchy;p05:41
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penguinboyorneryboy05:41
monchyrocks05:41
penguinboywww.orneryboy.com05:41
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monchybest web-comic ever05:41
penguinboyyes05:42
penguinboynext to Dork Tower05:42
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penguinboyThis comic is not recommended for small children05:43
thunderdawghi05:43
penguinboyhey05:43
thunderdawgjust finished installing kubuntu on my mac mini05:43
penguinboyor medium children05:43
thunderdawgvery very nice05:43
thunderdawgone question though, 05:43
penguinboyyes...life does not get any better than Kubuntu my friend...unless it involves seeing Anglina Jolie nekkid05:43
thunderdawgI am trying to install mozilla-firefox on it, and kynaptic is failing the install because of a MD5Sum mismatch on libbonoboui-2.0?05:44
thunderdawghow can I solve this05:44
thunderdawgbtw-seeing angeline jolie05:44
thunderdawgnaked05:44
thunderdawgyup05:44
thunderdawgtoo  much05:45
thunderdawgim sorry to crash your conversation btw05:45
penguinboyyou did not crash05:45
penguinboysounds like a question for monchy05:45
seth_kthunderdawg: US and CA archives are messed up05:45
seth_kthunderdawg: you'll need to switch repos05:45
thunderdawgseth_k: to which ones?05:45
seth_kthunderdawg: by sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list and change to http://archive.ubuntu.com05:46
seth_ke.g. no us.05:46
thunderdawgthanks seth_k05:48
seth_knp05:48
seth_kthey should make an announcement :/05:48
thunderdawgkonversation is fucking sweet05:49
thunderdawg>xchat (almost I think)05:49
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seth_kI use konversation05:50
seth_kat least, for now05:50
penguinboyme 205:50
seth_kwas just using gaim05:50
Octanei prefer game and xchat :)05:50
thunderdawgI'm curious wtf does it still show as ver. 1.0.2 for firefox05:50
thunderdawgthat doesnt sound right05:50
thunderdawgdid they back patch it to ver 1.0.4???05:51
thunderdawglike when sun patches sendmail for example on solaris?05:51
thunderdawgwtf?05:51
seth_kthunderdawg: that's how debian does it05:51
seth_ksecurity fixes only05:51
Octaneare you using 64 bit thunderdawg 05:51
seth_kyou have all the features of 1.0.405:51
seth_ke.g. the fixes05:51
seth_kbut it will say 1.0.205:51
seth_kunless you install the backports 1.0.405:51
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Octanei love kubuntu, but man is my ssytem fucked up, and i dont have the enrgy to start fixing everything :)05:52
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thunderdawgseth_k: Yeah I just read that, so basically I am good to go right???05:53
thunderdawgrighto!!05:53
thunderdawg?05:53
seth_kthunderdawg, yes05:53
thunderdawgThanks seth 05:53
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seth_knp05:53
seth_kbed for me, up early tomorrow :/05:53
seth_knight all05:53
thunderdawgTake care seth05:54
thunderdawgthanks05:54
quamhaving some issues with klipper, is there a way to make it so when i paste shit, it pastes what i copied most recently, instead of me having go to klipper and tell it what i want to paste?05:54
Octanequam, u should ask in #kde05:54
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penguinboyOctaNE:  is this your blog?05:55
penguinboyvery kewl if it is05:55
Octanepenguinboy, what? danjberger.com ?05:55
penguinboysi05:55
Octaneyes that is my blog05:55
Octanethank you very much i appreciate it05:56
penguinboyI congratulate you my friend...this is very intelligent writing05:56
penguinboyI will add it to my blogroll05:56
Octaneoh wow thank you so much!05:56
penguinboyI will put you under Political/Social Commentary05:56
Octanei very much appreciate it05:56
Octaneyes, thats what it is :)))05:56
Octaneknowing i have more readers make sme work harder on it05:57
penguinboyyes i agree05:57
Octanei average 60 readers during the week05:57
Octaneand 30 during the w/e05:57
Octaneso i dont do much over the weekend05:57
Octaneand theyre probably readers who catch up if they missed05:57
penguinboyamazing.....with such fine writing you should have a much larger readership05:58
Octanethanks again05:58
penguinboydo you use Word Press....Moveable Type?????05:58
Octaneno, my own code05:58
penguinboywowzer05:58
Octanei think part of it is that i dont whore my blog in the blogosphere05:58
penguinboyOctane you would like the blog at www.vaughnthompson.com05:59
Octanegraet ill cehck it out05:59
quamyeah octane, #kde is about as helpful as you are. i came here because this place is for ubuntu specifically setup for kde :P05:59
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Octanequam, good point ;X05:59
mebrelithHi guys! I could use some help here... 06:00
mebrelithJust installed and seem to be stuck at 640x48006:01
penguinboydid you right click on desktop....then on configure desktop....display...etc?06:02
mebrelithyep06:02
mebrelithonly available option is 640x48006:03
penguinboyhhhuummm06:03
mebrelithtook a look at xorg.conf and everything seems alright06:03
randabismy damn brand new phone charger broke :(06:04
randabisthe plug was very poorly constructed :/06:04
mebrelithany ideas as to what could the problem be?06:06
quamoctane: figured it out. imagine that, reading the help file actually helps :P06:06
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mebrelithHelp! Still stuck at 640x48006:14
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penguinboysorry mebrelith I am no help on that issue06:15
deuce_do you dual boot mebrelith 06:15
randabismebrelith: sounds like incorrect HorizSync and VertRefresh settings in xorg.conf06:16
mebrelithlet me check again my xorg.conf06:16
randabisyou'll need to find the correct settings for your display and edit xorg.conf06:16
deuce_which if you dual boot is easy to get from win driver06:16
mebrelithDang hadn't noticed that the "monitor" section has no info regarding HorizSync and VertRefresh06:18
penguinboy<b>"Software is like sex. It's better when it's free." - Linus Torvalds</b>06:19
penguinboynight guys!06:20
deuce_night, me 206:20
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OctaneERROR: The runtime configuration check failed for library 'libGL.so.1.0.7664' (expected: '/emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libGL.so.1', found: '/usr/lib32/libGL.so.1').  The most likely reason for this is that conflicting OpenGL libraries are installed in a location not inspected by `nvidia-installer`.  Please be sure you have uninstalled any third-party OpenGL and third-party graphics driver packages.06:29
Octaneanyone know what may be causing that error?06:29
Octanethats what the nvidia driver installer tells me06:29
randabiswhy don't you just use the nvidia-glx package?06:30
Octanebecause i want to make sure i have the latest for my card from nvidia so that it works with transparency06:31
Kamping_Kaiseroctane, do you have a 64 bit system?06:33
OctaneKamping_Kaiser, yes, i do06:33
Kamping_Kaiserthats what causes the error06:33
Kamping_Kaiserakaik06:33
Kamping_Kaiser*afaik06:33
Octaneyes i definitely agree with you06:34
Octaneit asked me if i want to install the opengl 32 bit module06:34
OctaneInstall NVIDIA's 32bit compatibility OpenGL libraries? (Answer: Yes)06:34
Octanebrb gonna try answering no to that questio06:37
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monchyhm flashplayer-mozilla is gone lol06:42
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quamawesome, just crashed kde with shockwave plugin :P06:42
monchydamn macrocrapia06:43
randabisyay06:48
monchy?06:50
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quamthis place dies at night07:14
Kamping_Kaisernight is a relative term in irc07:15
quamnot to ethnocentric americans :P07:15
monchywhats the time where you are kaiser07:15
Kamping_Kaiser14:4507:15
Kamping_KaiserAustralia07:16
Kamping_Kaisercentral time ;)07:16
monchyso it's sunday there right?07:16
Kamping_Kaiseryes.07:16
monchyweird lol07:16
Kamping_Kaiserwhat time is it there?07:16
Kamping_Kaiserwhere ever there is :P07:16
monchy22:16 saturday night in british columbia, canada07:17
monchy(west coast)07:17
Kamping_Kaiserok. west coast canada is what i got, brit columbias to specific ;)07:17
monchyaw crap is the us.archive.ubuntu.com fubar again07:18
Kamping_Kaisermonchy, can you connect to k-k.homelinux.net on either port 22 (ssh) or 80 (http)?07:19
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monchyhttp works07:20
Kamping_Kaisercool. ssh should then07:20
Kamping_Kaiserthanks07:21
monchyno worries07:21
monchyblah damn md5sum07:21
Kamping_Kaiserbbs.07:21
monchygah07:24
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KoalaDoes anyone know why a CD with an .avi movie on it will show up using Unbuntu and I can read the files on it, but it Kubuntu it's like the same cd doesn't exist and nothing can be read on it??!?07:29
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Koalahello?07:33
Kamping_Kaisernfi. 07:34
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Kamping_Kaiseris this Ubuntu with KDE on it?07:34
Kamping_Kaiseror Kubuntu?07:34
KoalaThis is on a straight Kubuntu install07:35
Kamping_Kaiserhm. not sure then07:35
KoalaPreviously I'd installed Ubuntu without KDE and it mounts fine..07:36
monchymaybe ask in #kde07:39
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=== Topic for #kubuntu: http://www.kubuntu.org/~amu/kubuntu-5.04.2-i386-live.iso | Congratulations to motaboy on membership | KDE 3.4.1: deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary-updates main | Unofficial Kubuntu FAQ http://kudos.berlios.de/
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Goshawkhi to all11:46
Goshawkwhat about kapture?11:46
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Kamping_Kaiserwhat about it?11:56
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papohello, I need some help to change  deps from kdelibs4 to kdelibs4c2 in order to install k3b in breezy. Do you know can I do it?12:12
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brosiohi12:16
brosioanyone could explain me how automont dvd cd ?12:16
Kamping_Kaiserdvd cd?12:17
brosioKamping_Kaiser, dvd or cd12:17
brosioand... it's the same...12:18
Kamping_Kaiseri thought it did automagicaly...12:18
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archsterwhat is the name of the command that goes out and checks the repositories and picks the fastest ones?12:41
Firetecharchster: is there a command that does that?12:48
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ruschiHi There,12:51
archsterhttp://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Apt-spy12:52
ruschihas anyone tried a switch from ubuntu to kubuntu12:52
archsterbut that's not the name I was thinking of Firetech 12:52
ruschidoes it work without mayor annoyances?12:52
archsterswitch..? as in aninstalled ubuntu to add kde ?12:53
ruschiI have running ubuntu with kde. 12:53
ruschibut its not kubuntu. What is kubuntu really?12:53
Tm_Truschi: ubuntu w/ KDE and Kubuntu artwork12:53
archstersorry I'm not going to be much help, I was here trying to find answers for a friend running kubuntu ..12:54
ruschio.k. so I actually got a kubuntu already.... 12:54
ruschithanks.12:54
uniqarchster: netselect-apt? 12:56
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archsterah that sounds more like it uniq 12:57
uniqdon't think it's ubuntu-ready though.12:58
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archsteruniq: friend of mine has just installed kubuntu and said: Then it took a huge amount of time testing the network repository.  I don't know if it went out and got more uptodate software or if it was just running that little program that goes out and finds the best repository.01:06
Howitzerehh01:06
Howitzeri'm in the installment of Kubuntu and it is asking me things of default display manager01:07
Kamping_Kaiserok01:07
Howitzerand i have to edit a file in order to run multiple display managers(do they mean Gnome and Kubuntu with this?)01:07
Kamping_KaiserGnome and KDE01:08
Tm_Terrr01:08
Kamping_Kaiserbut you dont want to run multipe do you?01:08
Tm_TKDM and GDM01:08
Kamping_Kaiser*01:08
Howitzerehh01:08
Howitzerbut01:08
Howitzeroooh01:08
Kamping_Kaisermy bad01:08
Tm_Tyeah, KDM does the job01:08
Howitzerit's not like i choose to run Gnome solely or KDE?01:08
Tm_Tno01:09
Howitzerso it has nothing to do with Gnome or KDE itself01:09
Howitzerokay01:09
Howitzerso01:09
Tm_Tyou choose what "login manager" you use01:09
Howitzerwhat i the best then? gdm or kdm :x01:09
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Tm_THowitzer: KDM ;)01:09
Howitzermm01:09
Kamping_Kaiserhowitzer, dont start a religous war01:09
Howitzerlol01:09
Kamping_Kaisertm_t :P01:09
Howitzerso if i choose kdm i won't get the login screen i have now?01:10
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eikkehija01:10
Howitzerokay01:10
Howitzeri took kdm01:10
Howitzerif this screw my system, i'll sue you Tm_T  :D01:10
Howitzer\ o /01:10
Kamping_Kaiser:) like to see you try01:10
Howitzersueing somebody else or your own retardedness01:10
eikkeif I got an ubuntu installation (with Gnome), can I install kubuntu "on top of it", so users get the choice between gnome and kde at login time (in the xdm)?01:11
Kamping_Kaiseryes01:11
Howitzersounds like american justice \ o /01:11
Howitzeryes01:11
Howitzeri want that as well01:11
eikkeoh, nice ;)01:11
Kamping_Kaiser;)01:11
Kamping_Kaiserjoys of unix01:11
Kamping_Kaiser*x01:11
Howitzerhow do you do that then actually?(or does it that by itself?)01:11
eikkeany docs on that? (I'm not a beginning linux user, so just some hints should be enough)01:11
Howitzerdoes it work like Fluxbox then?01:12
eikkeis it as simple as adding some apt repo?01:12
Kamping_Kaisereikke, apt-get install Kubuntu-desktop01:12
Howitzereikke, 01:12
eikkeso I dont need any extra repository?01:12
Kamping_Kaiserno01:12
Howitzerbe sure to change to archive.ubuntu01:12
eikkehell, thats nice :)01:12
Howitzernot us.archive01:12
eikkewhat for?01:13
Howitzerbecause us.archive seems to be screwed a bit01:13
Kamping_Kaiserus. is down01:13
eikkeah ;) I wont do it now anyway...01:13
Howitzeroh01:13
eikkeit'll only be next month or so when I dump my brother and sister's windows installation :) (and I'm no ubuntu user myself)01:13
Howitzeri got a fail here Oo01:13
Kamping_Kaisergl howitzer01:13
eikkethanks for the help!01:13
HowitzerSetting up kdm (3.4.0-0ubuntu18) ...01:14
Howitzer * Reloading K Display Manager configuration...                                                                                                       [fail] 01:14
Howitzerinvoke-rc.d: initscript kdm, action "reload" failed.01:14
HowitzerOo01:14
Kamping_Kaiser:P01:14
Kamping_Kaisershould have used GDM01:14
Howitzeram i screwed now ;scared:01:14
Kamping_Kaiser;)01:14
Howitzeroh god no01:14
Howitzerbut01:14
Kamping_Kaiserapt-get -f install, does it find anything?01:14
HowitzerReading package lists... Done01:15
HowitzerBuilding dependency tree... Done01:15
Howitzer0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 23 not upgraded.01:15
Kamping_Kaiserso /etc/init.d/kdm/restart01:15
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Howitzerit isn't a directory :/01:15
Kamping_Kaiseroops01:16
Kamping_Kaiser /etc/init.d/kdm restart01:16
Howitzeri'm getting scared now :x01:16
Kamping_Kaiserdont be01:16
Howitzerlol01:16
Kamping_KaiserLinux likes you01:16
Howitzer:eek:01:16
Howitzer * Not stopping K Display Manager: not running (/var/run/kdm.pid not found).01:16
Howitzer * Starting K Display Manager...01:16
Howitzer *ly root wants to run kdm    01:16
Kamping_Kaisersudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart01:17
Howitzerbehind the latest line is also a *FAIL*01:17
Kamping_Kaiserwell it didnt work, so of course it fialed :)01:17
Howitzer * Not stopping K Display Manager: not running (/var/run/kdm.pid not found).01:17
Howitzer * Starting K Display Manager...                                                                                                                      [ ok ] 01:17
Howitzerwtf01:17
Howitzerit doesn't find a file but it runs?01:17
Kamping_Kaisermmm?01:17
Kamping_Kaiseryeh. look at the line again01:17
Mezsudo killall-9 kdm01:17
Mezsudo kdm01:18
Kamping_Kaiser ***Not**** stopping K01:18
Howitzeroooh01:18
Mezsudo killall kdm01:18
Mezdamn01:18
Mezno -901:18
Howitzerdone01:18
Howitzeroh01:18
Howitzerkillall-9 ? :/01:18
Kamping_Kaiserdone loading or killing?01:18
Howitzerdone doing killall kdm01:18
Meznow01:18
Mezsudo ksm01:18
Mezsudo kdm I men01:18
MezI just woke up01:19
Meztired01:19
Howitzerlol01:19
Howitzerokay01:19
Howitzeris it normal that nothing hppens?01:19
Mezit work?01:19
Howitzeradrian@ubuntu:~$ sudo kdm01:19
Howitzeradrian@ubuntu:~$01:19
Mezhit ctrl+alt+f701:19
Mezit should have switched you to X automatically01:19
Howitzeri am in X01:20
Kamping_Kaisermine heads over to f8 if it crashes sometiems01:20
Howitzeri've been in X the whole install01:20
Mezthenthere you go... whats the problem01:20
Howitzerwell01:20
Howitzerif i logout, i can choose KDE?01:20
Howitzerin the sessions menu 01:20
Mezas long as you'ev installed kubutu-desktop01:21
Mezsudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop01:21
Howitzeri did01:21
Mezthat'l;ll installm everything you need for kde01:21
Howitzer83mb01:21
Howitzerwii01:21
Howitzerokay01:22
Howitzerhere goes nothing!01:22
Meztry it :D01:22
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Mezbtw kamping kaiser - gaim 1.3.1 should eb in universe now01:23
Mezfor breezy01:23
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Mezimn main *01:23
Kamping_Kaiseroh cool :)01:23
Kamping_Kaiseryou a dev?01:23
Mezno - I just know about these things :D01:24
Kamping_Kaiser:)01:24
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MezI was talking to the guy who was building it last night :P01:24
Mezand i just checked and the buildd says it was built ok01:25
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Kamping_Kaiserbastard :P01:25
Kamping_Kaiserknow all the right ppl01:25
Mezlol01:25
Mezwell01:25
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Mezkonversation 0.18 for breezy was by me :D01:25
Howitzeroh my01:25
Kamping_Kaiseroh :!01:26
HowitzerKubuntu is damn sexy01:26
Howitzeroh man01:26
Howitzeri already love konqeuror01:26
Kamping_Kaiser*shudders*01:26
Howitzernautilus is kind of crap01:26
Howitzerwhat?01:26
Howitzeryou don't think konqueror is good? :x01:27
Kamping_Kaiseri dont like KDE ;)01:27
Kamping_Kaiserhm. Kubuntu-desktop still broken for breezy01:27
Kamping_Kaiserk3b and OO.o2-KDE missing01:27
_dolnywel01:28
_dolnywell, why the hell install breezy :)01:28
Mezso it worked then Howitzer?#01:28
Mezlol01:28
Mezyeah kubuntu is sexy D01:28
Howitzerindeed01:28
Mezbut can be made even sexiuert01:28
_dolnyyuo can get updates from the breezy reps on your hoary, unless you're a betatester ;)01:28
Kamping_Kaiser_dolny, i was using breezy the week after hoary released :)01:28
_dolnykubuntu rox ;] 01:28
_dolnykaiser lol :)01:28
Howitzerbut where do i set up kubuntu so that its buttons don't function like a webpage01:28
Howitzer=> 2x click to open01:29
Kamping_Kaiseris there some repo I'm not aware of?01:29
Kamping_KaiserSection: otherosfs01:29
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Mezfunkeh :D01:29
Kamping_Kaisereek!01:29
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Mezlol01:30
Howitzerwiiiiiiiii01:30
Howitzerkubuntu is nice01:30
Howitzerhey01:30
Howitzeralmighty01:31
Mez:O01:31
Mezwha?01:31
Howitzerthose tabs being half the window space is handy01:31
Mezsorry I just got added as an op so ki was chekcing it worked01:31
Mezno need for tm eot acutally be opped01:31
Kamping_Kaiseryou just got ops? well done01:31
Mezwell... i was asked i i wanted to be one last night, and i cheecked the access list jsyt now and I was one01:32
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Kamping_Kaisernice. congrats ;)01:32
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Mezty01:33
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Alex[RM-UK] Hi :S01:34
Kamping_Kaiserhey01:34
MezRM ? research maachines#/01:34
Alex[RM-UK] Raptor-Mods01:35
Mezah01:35
Mezgood01:35
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Alex[RM-UK] how come?01:35
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Alex[RM-UK] ah01:36
Alex[RM-UK] no one knows how to fix a bios do they :P01:36
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Alex[RM-UK] I re-installed Windows, and Flashed my bios using the Abit utility, now my bios is buggered01:36
Kamping_Kaiserinstall Linux instead :)01:37
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Mezlol01:37
Mezif you flashed it and buggered it01:38
Mezyou'll not fix it01:38
Kamping_KaiserI've heard of it done, but its not a pretty picture01:38
Kamping_Kaisergod I'm sick of austnet going down. its netsplit about 4 times already in the last 12 hours01:39
Alex[RM-UK] Kamping_Kaiser, I am on linux atm01:40
Kamping_Kaiseri meant the bios01:40
Alex[RM-UK] Only think I could boot to, to get help01:40
Kamping_Kaiser;)01:40
Tm_TMUHAHHHAHA!01:40
Alex[RM-UK] hum, is there a floppy boot disk that will install the bios for me?01:40
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Tm_TI've got enough money to buy some food and _coffee_ \o/01:41
incubiiusually the motherboard vendor provides a boot floppy01:42
incubiiin exe format01:42
Kamping_Kaiser:O tm_t!01:42
Kamping_Kaiseryou fiend!01:42
Howitzerno serious01:43
Howitzeri really screwed the icons Oo01:43
Kamping_Kaiserhm.?01:43
Howitzerand i can't change it because all the items in settings:/LookNFeel/ are missing Oo01:44
Kamping_Kaiserlol01:44
Tm_TKamping_Kaiser: yeah! I haven't eated for a day now and I drank coffee last time in friday01:45
Tm_Tshopping ;) ->01:45
Kamping_Kaiserlater :)01:45
Alex[RM-UK] cya01:45
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Howitzeroh shit man01:50
Howitzerit seriously screwed up01:50
Howitzerkonqueror doesn't work anymore01:50
Howitzerthe system kind of freezes01:50
Howitzeri can't log into Gnome since it just kicks me back to the login screen01:51
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HowitzerFluxbox is the only thing working now :x01:51
Kamping_Kaiserouch01:51
Howitzerwhat do i do now? :/01:52
Howitzerre-install KDE and Gnome? Oo01:52
Kamping_Kaiserwhat locale are you using? i was getting screwed by that01:52
Howitzerwhat do you mean by locale?01:52
Kamping_Kaiserlanguage settings. in a terminal type this "env |grep LANG"01:53
Kamping_KaiserKDE might have added somthing01:53
HowitzerLANG=en_GB.UTF-801:54
HowitzerGDM_LANG=en_GB.UTF-801:54
HowitzerLANGUAGE=en_GB.UTF-801:54
Kamping_Kaiserutf8, but all the same, so that should be ok01:54
Kamping_Kaiserhowitzer, I'm just going to go over obvious stuff first... and hten get kicked out by someone who knows what to do ;)01:55
Howitzerlol01:55
Kamping_Kaiser"sudo apt-get update && apt-get install Ubuntu-desktop Kubuntu-desktop"01:55
Tm_Twhoa01:55
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Kamping_Kaiseryou back?01:55
Tm_Tyes01:56
Kamping_Kaiserquick :O impressed01:56
Tm_Tuuh, sweet smell of fresh coffee <301:56
Tm_Tslow01:57
Howitzeri get a whole list of archive.ubuntu01:57
Tm_Tcouldn't decide what to buy =)01:57
Kamping_Kaiseri stand corrected tm_t ;)01:57
Tm_T=)01:57
Kamping_Kaiserhowitzer, it should either "hit" or "get" from each01:57
Howitzerhit01:57
Tm_Tcoffee coffee coffee food coffee ->01:57
Howitzer3 get's, the rest re hits01:58
Kamping_Kaiserdoes it want to install anything?01:58
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Howitzerwell01:59
Kamping_Kaiserjeepers. my contact lists getting to big :S01:59
Howitzerit immedeatly asks or root01:59
Kamping_Kaiseri have to have some bitchfights01:59
Kamping_Kaiserwtfs? ooopppsss01:59
Kamping_Kaiserforgot about that01:59
Kamping_Kaiseryou will have to sudo apt-get both things02:00
Kamping_Kaiserboth *should* not want to update02:00
Howitzerget the kubuntu-desktop again?02:00
Kamping_Kaiseri would ususaly run a command like that from a root shell ;$02:00
Kamping_Kaiseryes02:00
Kamping_Kaiserit will check if its ok02:00
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Howitzeradrian@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop02:01
HowitzerE: Invalid operation kubuntu-desktop02:01
Kamping_Kaiserffs. not my night02:01
Howitzerheh02:01
pv_sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop02:01
Howitzernot my day either02:01
Howitzerooh02:01
Kamping_Kaisersudo apt-get install Kubuntu-desktop02:01
Howitzerdamn02:01
Howitzer:(02:01
Kamping_Kaisersame with Ubuntu-deskto[02:01
Kamping_Kaiser*top02:01
Howitzerkubuntu-desktop is already the newest version.02:02
Howitzer0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 23 not upgraded.02:02
Howitzeris ine02:02
Howitzer*fine02:02
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jkeelhi all02:02
Howitzerubuntu-desktop is already the newest version.02:02
Howitzer0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 23 not upgraded.02:02
firasRhi jkeel 02:02
Kamping_Kaisercool. no missing stuff then02:02
jkeelI'm trying to compile some KDE svn packages, but auto* is giving me fits02:02
firasRjkeel:  how so ?02:03
jkeelfirasR: I'll paste the error externally..02:03
jkeelhttp://programmers.malfunct.net/pastebin/index.php?show=1002:04
jkeelfirasR: as you can see, I'm trying to 'make -f Makefile.cvs'02:05
jkeeland I have autoconf 2.5902:05
jkeeland automake 1.902:05
jkeelversion obtained through the use of '--version'02:05
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jkeelfirasR: you have any ideas?02:07
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firasRjkeel:  sorry but cvs stuff is over my head, however did u try what it suggested  by checking out that module again and updating ?02:09
jkeelyeah02:10
firasRdid u checkout kde-common and link it like it said ?02:10
jkeelI don't have this problem with other kde modules...from older checkouts02:10
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jkeelI didn't exactly checkout the standard way...hmm02:11
firasRsorry can't help you out there 02:13
jkeelI'm doing a fresh checkout of the whole module to see if that's the problem. It is possible that files are missing02:14
jkeelbut I would think it unlikely02:14
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domiHI, how can I install Mozilla Firefox under Kubuntu? Always when I enter apt-get install mozilla-firefox it wants to install the gnome libraries02:16
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domi:(02:16
gdhdomi: you're nearly right.02:16
gdhdomi: It will be taking in gtk libs, not gnome ones.02:16
domibut there's always an error02:17
gdhFirefox is built on the GTK libs, you can't escape that :) 02:17
domican't find that libs02:17
domi:(02:17
gdhcome on, you'll need to post the exact error message..02:17
gdhwe're happy to help, but we're not psychic =)02:17
domi=)02:17
domithe packaged cannot be retrieved from the servers02:19
gdhOh, I think there are major probs with the us and canadian archive mirrors..02:19
gdhfrom whatI remember of last night02:20
domiare there german mirrors as well?02:20
gdhI'd expect so02:20
gdhgb.archive... definately works :)02:20
domiI only have us mirrors here02:21
domiyou say a few files are down there?02:21
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gdhfrom what I remember, the whole US mirror is broken02:22
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firasRdomi:  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Archive/view?searchterm=mirror02:22
gdhthank you :)02:23
domithx02:23
firasRur welcome :)02:23
domihow must I enter the mirrors?02:24
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Mezew fluxbox = ugly02:24
firasRhehe02:24
domihow do I know if they're universe or restricted02:24
HowitzerAleks- http://www.bizinfotech.com/~democomp/hi.exe look this free tricks for your linux system Open As Windows02:24
domior something else ?-?02:24
Howitzer:/02:24
seth_kgb.archive and main archive works02:25
firasRdomi:  universe or restricted or main or multiverse are repositories under each of those mirrors02:25
seth_kdomi: sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list and change all the addresses to http://archive.ubuntu.com02:25
firasRdomi:  for example I have the following as one of my lines :02:25
firasRdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted universe multiverse02:26
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domiI hope it will work ^02:27
firasRit should, the main archive servers have always worked better for me than any of the mirrors02:28
seth_kme too02:28
Howitzerwtf02:28
Howitzerkonqueror is screwed, but nautilus isn't02:29
domishould I leave just that one entry?02:29
Howitzeri seriously need help here02:29
Howitzeri can't use Gnome and KDE is fucked up :(02:29
domiyou have to install teh normal ubuntu :)02:29
domihttp://www.ubuntulinux.org02:29
domio.o02:29
Howitzerre-install? OO02:30
firasRHowitzer:  how'd u manage to do that ?02:30
Howitzeri have no idea02:30
Howitzeri changed the icons in KDE02:30
Howitzerand all of a sudden, the icons disappeared02:30
firasRdo u have a kubuntu CD or all the KDE packages downloaded on ur machine ?02:30
Howitzerehh02:30
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HowitzerKDE packages dl'd on my comp02:30
Howitzerand i don't want to re-install Ubuntu :/02:31
harisany other way to get ethernet working? DHCP fails...02:31
firasRjust reinstall the kde packages 02:31
harisand in kcontrol, when enabling device it says it's ok, and around 5 seconds later automatically disables02:31
Howitzerit won't02:31
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Howitzerkubuntu-desktop is already the newest version.02:32
Howitzer0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 23 not upgraded02:32
domiW: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages)02:32
domiW: Sie mchten vi02:32
domi-_-02:32
smartI just installed Kubuntu AMD64 .. and started to notice that not all packages are available in amd64 ..02:33
smartwould be safe to use the i386 packages ?02:33
Howitzeri don't think so02:33
Howitzer64bit is totally different :x02:34
smartso.. my best option is to apt-get source.. and compile02:34
harisPretty much; or wait till they package for 6402:34
smartI know that AMD64 is backward compatable with i38602:34
smartthe processor I mean02:34
Howitzeri'm screwed ain't i?02:35
domithe MD5 checksum of that file is incorrect -_-02:35
domiDo I install normal .deb packages with apt-get install as well?02:38
uniqdomi:no, with:  sudo dpkg -i package02:40
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domiok thx02:40
Far^Sidewhat's wrong with the vlc package in Breezy Badger? I'm unable to install it02:41
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harisdoes the new live cd have 3.4.1?02:46
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jarodoes anyone know wehre i can find SDL 1.2 ???02:49
Shuddertrixjaro: apt-cache search libsdl , have you tried that?02:49
Shuddertrixharis: the one in the topic has 3.4.1, i know that much02:50
jarohm i have libsdl installed02:50
harisShuddertrix: k, thanx.02:51
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jarothere are lots of libsdl -packages02:52
jarowhich are necessary to install ?02:52
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LordHotohi03:08
LordHotoi installed a base system of ubuntu03:08
LordHotoand later i installed kubutnu-desktop03:08
LordHotoand my konqueror crashes often03:08
LordHotoanyone with the same problem or a solution to this?03:08
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Tm_TLordHoto: hmm, and you use what KDE version03:15
Tm_T?03:15
LordHoto3.4.003:15
LordHotoit's 'shiped' with Ubuntu03:15
LordHotowith kde-i18n-de03:15
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nxv_which gui to use for isdn connections in kubuntu? i think i have cap running but want to use it graphical03:17
LordHotoTm_T: but it looks like it happens only when i edit some .* files with a terminal03:18
Tm_TLordHoto: hmm, why not to install 3.4.103:19
Tm_TI bet there's bugfixes03:19
Tm_Tthere is03:19
Tm_TLordHoto: add these two lines to your sources.list: "deb http://kubuntu.org/ hoary-updates main" and "deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary-updates main"03:20
Tm_Tthen update & upgrade03:20
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LordHoto"WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!"03:24
LordHotowups ;)03:24
Tm_Tyes, just answer yes03:25
LordHotok03:25
LordHotoand just a question beside03:25
LordHotoanyone tried to use ati drivers? :)03:26
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LordHotolast time i tried it was ****03:27
LordHotobut that's over 1/2 year ago03:28
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penguinboyMorning, Guys!03:33
Guest53hi03:33
Guest53i was wondering how to connect to a wireless network in kubuntu...03:33
penguinboyme too....I have a ThinkPad R40 and have never been able to get the wireless connection to work03:34
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penguinboymorning tuni!03:35
tuni_!03:35
penguinboyor afternoon where you are I suppose03:35
tuni_afternoon03:35
tuni_yep03:36
penguinboyFrance?03:36
tuni_3 pm here03:36
tuni_yep03:36
penguinboykewl place03:36
penguinboywonderful food03:37
Tm_Tcoffee <3<3<303:37
penguinboysi03:37
penguinboythe only thing i remember from french class is como ale vous (?sp>03:38
penguinboyla port03:38
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penguinboyla tableau newire03:38
penguinboyWelcoem Vicks!!!03:38
vicksthank you penguinboy =)03:39
_dolnywhat happens when you run into your university03:39
_dolnyin masks03:39
_dolnyhttp://www.echostar.pl/~dolny/smieci/psycho/03:39
_dolny:)03:39
_dolnyi had a sick idea03:39
_dolny;] 03:39
_dolnyill upload an avi later on, maybe ;)03:39
penguinboyi am suprised you did not get shot dolny03:40
penguinboyare you the hunchback?03:41
vicksit's strange. everyone says that i'm in some kind of mobile-mode on msn when I connect with kopete, or even when i'm not connected i think. anyone knows anything about this?03:41
vickswhen they try to send offline messages, their msn says that i'm in mobile mode and that it may cost me money if they send the message03:42
_dolnypenguinboy: yeah :)03:42
_dolnyviolet coatr03:43
_dolnycoat03:43
_dolnyand breathing-mask03:43
penguinboycarrying the bottle os something in front of the store?03:43
_dolnyyeah03:43
_dolnyi bought it in that store03:43
penguinboyyou appear to be the ringleader03:44
_dolnywearing the mask03:44
_dolny;03:44
_dolny:)03:44
penguinboylol;03:44
penguinboywho is the nonparticipating female?03:44
_dolnyyeah i was03:44
_dolnymy friend's gal03:44
penguinboythe darth vader touch was nice03:45
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penguinboyWelceom weedar!03:45
_dolnyon one of the pics03:45
_dolnyi have a banana smile on03:45
penguinboylol03:45
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_dolnylike a total jerk ;)03:45
penguinboywhat country is pl03:45
_dolnyit was on purpose but it looks as if i look that way ;] 03:46
_dolnypoland03:46
_dolnyeurope03:46
_dolny;] 03:46
_dolnywhere the devil says goodnight or smth like that03:46
penguinboyPolska03:46
_dolnycorruption, idiots, vodka, kielbasa03:46
_dolnyrussian neighbourhood03:46
_dolnyKwasniewski, Walesa ;) Solidarnosc ;)03:46
penguinboywhat does the sign say taped to the chest of darth vader03:47
_dolnysick sad place ;)03:47
_dolny'the last day at the university'03:47
_dolnywith preceeding (probably) with small letters03:47
_dolnywe have like million egzams, i will never pass03:47
_dolnynone shall pass ;] 03:47
penguinboylol03:47
penguinboyostatni dzien zajec na wsjo03:48
_dolnywsjo - name of my school03:48
_dolnyostatni - last03:48
_dolnydzien - day03:49
_dolnyzajec - hmm.. of lectures03:49
_dolnyzajecia - lectures03:49
Choubaka:P03:49
weedarhi penguinboy03:49
Choubakawould you like to buy a wovel?03:49
penguinboyhey Choubaka03:49
_dolnylol03:49
Choubakavowel though I think.03:49
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weedarI love friendly bots03:49
penguinboyhey weeder03:49
_dolnychouwie03:49
penguinboyWelcoem ijuz03:49
penguinboyWe all love friendly bots03:50
ijuzhello03:50
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penguinboyWelceom buz!03:50
penguinboywhat is dla pana doktora mikolaja sobczaka03:51
ChoubakaFinnish has a lot more vowels. Perhaps you'd like one.03:51
penguinboylol03:52
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ChoubakaThere was some language with even fewer vowels though.03:52
penguinboyWelcoem ubuntu!!03:52
Choubakaah, Czech. 03:53
weedarwow, I just installed ndiswrapper on a computer sitting 1 meter away from me and the router. It has 56% packetloss when pinging me :-O03:53
Choubaka:/03:53
penguinboycongrats03:53
ChoubakaYou shouldn't own a crappy wireless adapter.03:53
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Choubakathat needs windows drivers to work on linux.03:54
weedarI thought Belkin products were okay03:54
ijuzi installed kubuntu-desktop on the system for my mother, is there a way to get it automounting usb storage devices like the gnoem desktop is doing it?03:54
penguinboydolny I like the star ward convention!03:54
weedarbesides, I got the NIC for free from my dad who got fed up trying to get it to work, so I was really surprised it worked at all03:54
_dolnypenguin :)03:54
penguinboywww.Allegro.pl03:55
penguinboydid you draw the demon?03:56
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vicksit's strange. everyone says that i'm in some kind of mobile-mode on msn when I connect with kopete, or even when i'm not connected i think. anyone knows anything about this?03:57
vickswhen they try to send offline messages, their msn says that i'm in mobile mode and that it may cost me money if they send the message03:57
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penguinboywb ubuntu!!!03:58
penguinboyhow much is 164,99 zl?04:02
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penguinboyHey Octane!!!!!!!!!!!!!!04:02
_dolny1 $ = 04:03
_dolnyabout 3z04:03
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penguinboyallegro.pl has a PII for sale for 50 $ US04:04
penguinboyWelceom JensK04:04
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penguinboywb mez04:09
JensKwelcome penguinboy 04:10
penguinboythankis04:10
Mezty04:11
penguinboyyw04:11
LordHotohmm i tried this (http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html) for installing ati drivers04:14
LordHotobut i get these errors:04:14
LordHotoFGLRXExtensions.c:19:37: X11/extensions/xf86misc.h: No such file or directory04:14
LordHotoFGLRXExtensions.c:20:39: X11/extensions/xf86mscstr.h: No such file or directory04:14
LordHotobut i installed all packages listet there04:14
LordHotoor should i better use standard ubuntu packages?04:16
penguinboyyou got me04:18
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spiralhmmm, how is breezy nowadays ? still broken ?04:34
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Tm_Tspiral: I think it work better now04:36
kubrovczesc04:36
Tm_Tbut I will test it july or august04:36
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Tm_Tnot earlier04:37
LordHotoTm_T: i tried it last week04:37
LordHotoit killed my system04:38
LordHoto;04:38
spiralTm_T, LordHoto : all right, I shall maybe wait a little then04:38
motaboyspiral: I'm using it with from 2 weeks and I don't have any problem. Only noticed that kio_media with hal doesn't work and that the kprinter preview is always empty. everything other I'm using works04:38
vicksis there any big news in breezy?04:39
spiralmotaboy: ouah, not so bas04:39
spiralmotaboy: bad04:39
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roadiewhatsup04:42
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randabishi05:12
Tm_TRiddell: pingbling05:14
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=== Topic for #kubuntu: http://www.kubuntu.org/~amu/kubuntu-5.04.2-i386-live.iso | Congratulations to motaboy on membership | KDE 3.4.1: deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary-updates main | Unofficial Kubuntu FAQ http://kudos.berlios.de/
=== Topic (#kubuntu): set by amu at Thu Jun 9 14:05:00 2005
ijuzat least with dpkg -i <package> you can05:31
Howitzerwell05:32
Howitzerehh05:32
Tm_Terr05:32
Tm_Tthere's no separate konqi package ;)05:32
Howitzerkonqueror - KDE's advanced File Manager, Web Browser and Document Viewer05:32
Tm_T...?05:33
Howitzerfound it with apt-cache search konqueror :x05:33
Tm_Thaha05:33
ijuzapt-get also has a --reinstall option05:33
Tm_Tyeah05:33
Tm_Thmm, oh yes!05:33
Tm_Tsorry05:33
Tm_TI'm too old fart05:33
Howitzeradrian@ubuntu:~$ apt-get --reinstall konqueror05:33
HowitzerE: Ongeldige operatie konqueror05:33
HowitzerOo05:33
Howitzerbtw ongeldige operatie=>non valid configuration05:34
ijuzinstall, didn't you read the manpage?05:34
Howitzeroh uhh05:34
Howitzeri did05:34
Howitzerbut it's confusing :(05:34
motaboyHowitzer: Mayve it's a configuration problem? You can try moving (don't delete!) your .kde dir to another place (with kde not started up again). 05:34
motaboys/Mayve/maybe05:34
motaboyHowitzer: or just create a new user05:35
motaboyHowitzer: and look if it freezes again05:35
Howitzerokay05:35
ijuzwhat was this name of the nc clone for kde?05:35
Tm_Tnc?05:36
ijuzok and i found out usb storage devices appear in the konqueror, how do i get this to the desktop itself?05:36
motaboyijuz: krusader?05:36
ijuznorton commander well or mc (midnight commander)05:36
ijuzaaah05:36
ijuzmotaboy: thanks05:37
Tm_Tyeah05:37
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RiddellTm_T: hi05:48
randabishi05:49
Tm_TRiddell: hullo, some fellows asked about "settings wizard" after install in breezy, will there be one and what kind of?05:49
Riddellwhat would that be for?05:51
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brosiowhere mail are storend in kmail ?05:51
Howitzer!topic05:52
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gdhRiddell: Sorry to hassle - I'm seeing this on 2 seperate systems (one a warty upgrade, and one a fresh 5.04 install)... https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11313 any change you can mark it as NEW ?05:52
randabisHowitzer: /topic05:52
Howitzerokay05:53
Howitzerlol05:53
randabisHowitzer: add deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary-updates main to /etc/apt/sources.list, then run apt-get update && dist-upgrade05:54
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motaboybrosio: depends05:57
motaboybrosio: if you already had mail in your home dir it will be ~/Mail05:58
Howitzerrandabis, is it normal that a lot of the packets can't get authenticated?05:58
motaboybrosio: if it's a new home dir with kde 3.4 it'll be in ~/.kde/05:58
randabisyes05:58
ijuzhttp://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 is that suggested or still testing?05:58
Howitzerokay05:58
brosiois in Mail ok05:59
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Tm_Tijuz: twesting?06:00
Tm_T-w06:00
Tm_Tijuz: why it would be testing?06:00
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ijuzTm_T: why not?06:03
Tm_Tijuz: well, just go ahead and upgrade ;)06:03
froudhttp://www.kubuntu.org/hoary-kde-341.php06:04
froudThe packages have also been uploaded to our breezy development version.06:04
froudkeywords: our breezy development version06:04
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wirwzdIs there an issue with libbonoboui2-0_2.8.1-1ubuntu1_powerpc.deb and libgnomecanvas2-0_2.10.0-0ubuntu1_powerpc.deb? 06:06
wirwzdI keep getting MD5Sum mismatch06:06
wirwzdtrying to install firefox on ppc using apt-get install mozilla-firefox06:07
Riddellgdh: do you use MSN?06:08
quamwirwzd: change your repositories to archive.ubuntu.com, rather than us.archive.ubuntu.com or ca.archive.ubuntu.com06:08
quamthe north america repositories are fucked06:08
wirwzdGotcha06:08
wirwzdthanks06:08
Tm_TRiddell: for the basic things, like display drivers, extra repositories and such06:09
Tm_TRiddell: because many "n00b" users have problems even those basic stuff06:09
Howitzerlol06:10
Howitzerwww.ubuntuguide.net?06:10
RiddellTm_T: X drivers are set up for you, the ubuntu repositories are set up for you06:10
Tm_TRiddell: hm?06:10
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Tm_Tok, I won't ask any dumb questions anymore =)06:11
grandpaprizyou may not Tm_T, but ole gamps might ask some dumb question06:12
froudTm_T: no please do, there are no such things as dumb questions06:12
Tm_Tfroud: there is06:12
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grandpaprizbeen trying to install Kubuntu from a down loaded disk, nada06:12
froudhow do you tink noobs get confused?06:12
froudTm_T: not from my perspective ;-)06:13
Tm_TI don't think, I spend hours every day to explain basic stuff for newbies06:13
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Tm_Tto06:13
Howitzer:(06:13
Tm_Terr, anyway06:13
grandpaprizanyone care to hold gramps hand and take him through the steps????06:14
gdhRiddell: Yeh, gdh@klub.org06:14
froudgrandpapriz: give us more info06:14
froudyou downloaded an ISO?06:15
grandpaprizI am running ubuntu, and all seems to be well, I downloaded Kubuntu, have it on my home directory, and cant get it installed, each time I try I get a msg saying that ubuntu is unstalbel06:15
Tm_Teh06:16
froudyou dont need to instal that way if you have ubuntu06:16
grandpaprizenlighten me pleawe06:16
froudhttp://www.kubuntu.org/documentation.php06:16
grandpaprizI will take that trip to documentation06:17
froudgrandpapriz: just the one doc grandpapriz 06:17
froudif you have any ideas on improving it, I would be happy to learn :-)06:18
grandpaprizbrb06:18
gdhfroud: hm, the images on that page are dead...  http://www.inwords.co.za/kubuntu/inst/figures/kdm-select.png -> 40406:18
froudgdh: why inwords that was just a temp stage area06:19
froudgdh:  that doc is now totally at kubuntu.org06:20
gdhfroud: Yeh, I'm reading http://www.kubuntu.org/documentation.php :)06:20
gdhand the images are still linked to inwords...06:20
froudgdh: hmmm yeah, riddle06:20
gdhRiddell ? ;)06:21
froudRiddell: need to fix that page dude06:21
gdhheh06:21
froudanyone have access to the site 06:21
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grandpaprizok, I followed the directions and got the same msg I always get, ..the msg is about 10/15 lines06:22
gdhfroud: Ah cool - it's nice that I'm useful for something =)06:22
froudgrandpapriz: paste it here http://pastebin.ca/06:23
grandpaprizit's pasted06:24
froudlink please06:25
Howitzeromg06:25
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Howitzerkubuntu has a system tray 06:25
Howitzercool06:25
froudgrandpapriz: when you paste you submit and it gives you a link, share it so we can see06:26
grandpaprizok, I will try06:27
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grandpaprizhttp://pastebin.ca/1410106:28
froudgrandpapriz: did you do sudo apt-get update06:29
grandpaprizoften06:29
frouderrors?06:29
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froudgrandpapriz: does it report errors06:30
grandpaprizget the same type of mesg, but longer06:30
grandpaprizyes iut does06:30
froudpls past the contents of your source.list06:30
gdhgrandpapriz: Ubuntu 4.10 ? 'unstable / main' ?06:30
grandpaprizyes gdh06:30
froudless /etc/apt/source.list06:30
gdhyeh, pastebin your sources.list06:31
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grandpaprizsource list is the same as the error megs?06:31
froudgrandpapriz: open a Terminal06:31
grandpaprizgot it06:32
grandpaprizopen06:32
froudthen do less /etc/apt/sources.list06:32
froudcopy that and paste it for us06:32
grandpapriz1410506:33
gdhgrandpapriz:  that's impressive :)06:34
grandpapriz?meaning?06:34
gdhyou have no active repositories whatsoever :)06:34
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gdhthey've all been commented out06:35
grandpaprizI suppose that is not a good thing06:35
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froudgrandpapriz: OK you need to uncommnet the repositories06:35
gdhas a bare minimum it should contain this:06:35
gdhdeb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted06:35
froudstay in Terminal06:35
grandpaprizok06:35
gdhand: deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted06:36
froudgdh: please hold06:36
gdhokies06:36
froudgrandpapriz: do sudo cp /etc/apt/source.list /etc/apt/source.list.bak06:37
froudgrandpapriz: this has made a backup06:37
somezguys where can I set the character encoding in Konversation?06:38
froudnow do06:38
froudgrandpapriz: now do sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list06:38
froudgrandpapriz: sorry note my typo above /etc/apt/source.list should be /etc/apt/sources.list 06:39
froudgrandpapriz: so when you do the backup use sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bak  06:39
froudlet us know when you have sources.list open in gedit06:40
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grandpaprizESCOM06:40
froud?huh?06:40
grandpaprizI will do it again06:41
gdhmm, non-sequitur of the day :)06:41
pointwoodThe following packages have been kept back:06:41
pointwood  mozilla-firefox mozilla-firefox-dom-inspector mozilla-firefox-gnome-support06:41
froudgdh: once grandpapriz has it open in gedit you can take it06:41
pointwoodwhy are they being kept back?06:41
pointwoodI get that when I run apt-get upgrade06:41
gdhfroud: sure thang :)06:42
froudcollaborative support timeslicing06:42
gdh:)06:42
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grandpaprizit said in put is not a pipe06:43
froudgrandpapriz: ok setp by step06:43
froudyou in the terminal06:44
grandpaprizyes I am in terminal06:44
froudtype sudo06:44
froudthen spacebar06:44
froudnow /followed by a tab key06:45
Howitzeri fully updated Kubuntu, what now?06:45
gdhHowitzer: Use it and enjoy :)06:45
Howitzerrestart the pc?06:45
Howitzeroh06:45
gdhHowitzer: What is it you're trying to do?06:45
Howitzerehh06:45
gdhI've not been watching06:45
HowitzerKonqueror was broke06:45
froudgrandpapriz: so after sudo you have done /et then pressed tab06:46
Howitzeras soon as i went to a folder or anything, konqueror woul freeze06:46
grandpaprizfroud, can we do this in priv?06:46
gdhHowitzer: ah, OK if you've updated kdelibs, etc. you can just logout and login again06:46
froudok06:46
Howitzerehh06:46
Howitzerokay06:46
Howitzerthen06:46
froudbrb gdh 06:46
gdh=)06:46
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HowitzerAAAAAAAARGH06:53
Howitzeri'm getting PISSED06:53
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HowitzerKonqueror still freezes when i go to a folder06:54
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pointwoodI got a folder full of images that I would like to resize. I use 'convert' to do it like this: "convert IMG_0001.JPG -resize 76% img_0001.jpg", how do I do it for all the pics in the folder with one command?06:55
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LordHotore06:56
EnRRaLaOre06:56
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LordHotohttp://rafb.net/paste/results/fdVkQo31.html06:57
LordHotoanyone any idea how to get rid of these errors?06:57
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EnRRaLaOALONSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! :D07:05
Tm_Tlpaaah07:05
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_maeFailed to fetch ftp://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdemultimedia/kmid_3.4.1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch07:18
_maeanyone getting something like this07:19
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\sh_mae: the us mirror is b0rked...use another mirror pls07:20
Tm_Twhole US is b0rked ;--P07:20
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CellarDoorok... I can't get fonts anti-aliased in kde... it looks horrible... no one has been able to offer me anything that actually fixes this... can anyone at all help ??07:26
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seth_k_mae: use GB or main mirrors, not US or CA07:34
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Spookymulderhello07:40
Spookymulderi have a question about kde in kubuntu07:40
Spookymulderhow can i get back the desktop icons ?07:40
kalenedraelyou make them?07:41
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Spookymulderno but if i install suse i get the "default desktop icons" like "home" etc07:42
froudgdh: grandpapriz is now upgrading from warty to hoary and then will follow www.kubuntu.org/documentation.php07:49
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dEddI just upgraded kubuntu hoary to breezy via apt-get, and all of sudden can no longer forward x11 apps over the lan via ssh.08:49
dEddI check the ssh_config, ensure x11 forwarding is set, and even fiddled with explicit xhost and DISPLAY settings08:50
KaiL_bad for you - don't use breezy yet.08:50
Tm_Thmm, breezy </308:50
dEddIs there an embedded firewall or something I need to set?08:50
Tm_TdEdd: or maybe breezy is broken ;)08:50
dEddKaiL_: not in general, or not with kubuntu?08:50
KaiL_in general08:51
dEddBeing a Debian developer, I usually have unstable around, and that never bit me.08:51
dEddIf that is the case (don't touch unstable) I better the box to Debian real fast08:51
_duendethe topic of #ubuntu is "PLEASE DON'T USE BREEZY YET -- REALLY"08:51
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KaiL_did you use unstable the time, they switched from xfree3 to xfree4?08:51
KaiL_or the time gcc2->gcc3?08:51
KaiL_...and now imagine both together, then you know, how usable breezy currently is08:52
nmorseI remember Xfree3 from Debian 2.108:52
nmorseGod I hate that08:52
nmorsehated*08:52
nmorseRight, don't use Breezy08:52
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mneisenhi @, i just installed kubuntu, and it is looking great. But i seem only to have the cdrom-sources available in kynaptic. How may i add universe to kynaptic?08:58
mneisenhi09:01
mneisenhi @, i just installed kubuntu, and it is looking great. But i seem only to have the cdrom-sources available in kynaptic. How may i add universe to kynaptic?09:01
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nmorsemneisen: you'll have to do it from the command line or from synaptic09:06
mneisenhow?09:07
nmorseopen /etc/apt/sources.list in a text editor while sudo'ed09:08
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nmorseThen uncomment (remove the #) from the Universe lines09:08
mneisennmorse: thx a lot, i will try that ... ;-)09:08
mneisennmorse: worked, THX!!09:12
nmorsenot a problem09:13
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_drakei just installed 5.04 kubuntu and im getting md5 sum mismatches on tons of packages.. anyone else having this issue?09:40
nmorseNo09:41
_drakehrmf wtf then.09:41
Tm_T_drake: us mirror?09:41
Mez_drake - are you suing us.archive.ubuntu.com09:42
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nmorseSomeone should topic that09:42
Tm_Tyup09:42
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Mezthat do ya09:43
nmorsethanks, Mez09:43
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Mezlol09:43
Meznever mind me 09:44
MezI'm an idiot09:44
nmorseBTW, anyone know of a way to make kubuntu.org packages verify in apt?09:44
Meznmorse - what do you mean ?09:45
nmorseI mean, they don't authorize when you install them09:45
nmorseYou have to manually select yes09:45
Mezah... well.09:45
Mezthats ebcause the repository is setuyp wrong09:45
MezI know how to overrride that09:45
nmorseAre the Kubuntu packages not signed?09:45
Mezfor unauthorised packages09:45
Mezthe repository is not signed09:45
uniqdon't think the packages are signed.09:46
Mezthere's not root RElease and RElease.gpg in the dist dir09:46
Mezthe signed bit of the pakages never gets upload (cept for source packages)09:46
Mezbtw, anyone who's interested, I just abckported the latest verison of Amarok09:47
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_alexhi all09:47
nmorseI'd like to get ubuntu backports to work09:47
nmorseI'm missing the bugfixes in the latest gaim releases09:48
Mez??09:49
_alexI've got 2 little problems, need help: Here I go : 1st : I did a bad apt-get and lost my xdm and now my startx is not automated on start up... Where coulsd I fix that?09:49
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Mez_alex - just reinstall xdm09:49
Meznmorse., whast your prob with backports?09:49
_alexTried that but it ain't working...09:50
Mezalex - apt-get remove --purge xdm09:50
nmorseI think my sources.list line may be wrong09:50
Mezapt-get install xdm09:50
nmorseMez: what should the line for Hoary backports be?09:50
Octaneman i just got my nvidia drivers working09:50
Octaneand this shit is so gorgeous09:50
_alexMez: Yes I did it and will try again... weird...09:51
Octanewith composite09:51
Octanei want to make love to my kubuntu box09:51
Octanenow all i need is my sound working, and ill be a happy man09:51
Mezdeb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted09:51
Mezdeb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted09:51
Octanedo you guys have arts enabled or no09:51
Mez_alex09:51
Mezif not, isntall gdm or kdm09:51
_alexok.09:52
MezOctane,  -yeah i use arts, i find it easier than having something lock out the sound device09:52
_alexthanx Mez 09:52
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OctaneMez: what excatly is arts -- how does it work with alsa?wahts the difference i mean09:52
MezOctane, I'm not exactly sure... because i've never reall asked, but the way i assume arts works is it basically just accepts douns tuff from all the other apps, and then poutpouts it to the dsp device09:53
Octanei mean i know its kdes soundsystem09:53
nmorsearts is a mixer app basically09:53
Mezyeah, as nmorse said09:53
nmorseIt handles a whole lot of input from programs and mixes it all to play in alsa at once09:53
Mezit means that all apps can access the dsp rather than one at a tiome09:53
Mezlike esd09:53
nmorseThe key is to get a hardware mixing card like an SB Live! to go with it09:53
nmorseThen arts doesn't lock out the soundcard but still works09:54
_alexk3b: Dpend: k3blibs (>= 0.11.23) mais ne sera pas install09:54
_alex       Dpend: kdelibs4 (>= 4:3.4.0) mais ne sera pas install09:54
_alex       Dpend: libarts1 (>= 1.3.2) mais ne sera pas install09:54
_alex       Dpend: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3) mais ne sera pas install09:54
Octanenmorse then what if you disable arts how is it that kde still plays sounds09:54
_alex2nd problem : when i try to install k3b i get : 09:54
nmorseKDE doesn't play sounds with arts off09:54
_alexsorry for the flood09:54
nmorseTry it09:54
Octanenmorse you can use oss09:55
nmorseWho uses OSS?09:55
Octaneso in other words if you want sound in kde u need arts?09:55
nmorseArts uses OSS, or ALSA, or sun, but it's still what KDE uses09:55
Octaneohhh ya i remember now i had to use aplay09:55
Octanewhen i had arts off09:55
nmorseExactly09:55
Octaneokay now i get it09:55
nmorseYou can set up a different player, but you need arts otherwise09:55
Octanei like understanding things :)09:56
Mezarts = the pwn :d09:56
nmorseIt's good to understand things09:56
Octaneyes09:57
Octanethank you09:57
MezUbuntu - We understand you09:57
Mez(TM)09:57
Octaneha09:57
OctaneKubuntu - we understand you better09:57
MezKubuntu We understand you and lok nice09:57
Mezlook *09:57
Octanehahaha09:57
Octanewe understanding while looking nice09:58
MezMez - I like cheese (tm)09:58
Mezanywasy09:58
Mezshopness09:58
nmorseI'm just waiting for XFCE's theme package to get fixed09:58
nmorseI may do it myself09:58
ijuzXubuntu? :)09:59
Octaneone thing i dont like witrh composite is that it gives a shadow to a bouncing cursor icon09:59
nmorseXubuntu would be neat09:59
nmorseI wonder what Composite's like with ATI proprietary drivers10:00
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Tm_T:'(10:00
Octanei tried it10:00
Octanewith my fc3 box10:00
Octaneit was unbearible10:00
Octaneplus it doesnt with with xinerma10:00
Octaneand i had dual10:00
nmorseOk, so how do I enable Composite again?10:01
nmorseWhat Section is it under in xorg.conf?10:01
OctaneSection "Extensions"10:01
OctaneOption "Composite" "Enable"10:01
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OctaneEndSection10:01
nmorsethanks10:02
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nmorseright, KDE wrote its own compositing manager didn't it?10:04
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mathieuslt tl;10:06
nmorseOctane: do you have XDamage enabled?10:07
Octaneno i do not -- i never heard of that option10:07
nmorseOkay, I need it to use xcompmgr10:08
nmorseWhat do you use to manage compositing?10:08
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Octanenmorse im not that advanced, i just use control center\10:09
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nmorseAnd it works for you?10:12
Octanenmorse yes it does10:15
nmorseHmm, the composite manager crashed twice within a minute to me and was disabled10:16
nmorseIt doesn't think I have xorg 6.810:16
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nmorsefudge, enabling composite on ATI drivers disables DRI10:22
Tm_Tis here any font expert?10:23
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hussamhow do I set an environment variable " export blah=something" in my user account only ?10:25
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nmorseDefine it in your .bashrc10:30
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hussamnmorse: where to I add it in .bashrc ? at bottom?10:32
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nmorsecrud, making the XFCE themes work as GTK2 themes is going to take a lot of work10:42
nmorseMaybe I should see if Debian's done the work for me10:42
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nmorseFudge, it's still xfce 4.0.5 on Debian10:49
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Tm_T:/10:53
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_kayEvening :)10:55
thunderdawganyone kubuntu powerpc users in channel?10:55
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uniqthunderdawg: yes, but i'll go to bed very soon.11:00
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uniqthunderdawg: do you have a question? 11:03
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uniqthunderdawg: i'll go to bed now.. i have some powerpc related stuff on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuIbook11:06
uniqgnite.11:06
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seth_kis anyone allowed to change the channel topic, or just ops? CA Mirror has the same issues as US11:09
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nmorsetry it and see11:10
seth_kI'm... hesitant11:10
seth_k</teengirlsquad>11:10
nmorseDo you know if the UK mirror is still having problems too?11:11
seth_knmorse: last I heard GB mirror is fully functional11:11
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nmorseok11:13
nmorseIf I knew more about IRC I'd try to edit the topic11:14
seth_kokay, I'll try it11:14
=== ..[topic/#kubuntu:_kay] : http://www.kubuntu.org/~amu/kubuntu-5.04.2-i386-live.iso | Congratulations to motaboy on membership | KDE 3.4.1: deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary-updates main | Unofficial Kubuntu FAQ http://kudos.berlios.de/ | We are currently experiencing problems with the US and CA Ubuntu Mirror
seth_kor, beaten :P11:15
_kayCommon guys, use Konversation11:15
seth_kI do11:15
_kayThis IS Kubuntu after all11:15
_kayYou see that icon near the topic?11:15
_kayClick on it... what do you need to know about IRC for that?!11:16
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nmorseAh, never done that before11:16
seth_k_kay, my issue was whether or not that was condoned11:16
seth_knot how to do it11:16
nmorseThanks for informing me, _kay11:16
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_kayWell, in the best case I will be killed, ban and extribed11:16
seth_k:D11:16
=== ..[topic/#kubuntu:nmorse] : http://www.kubuntu.org/~amu/kubuntu-5.04.2-i386-live.iso | Congratulations to motaboy on membership | KDE 3.4.1: deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary-updates main | Unofficial Kubuntu FAQ http://kudos.berlios.de/ | We are currently experiencing problems with the US and CA Ubuntu Mirrors
nmorsethere we go, fixed a typo11:16
seth_khehe11:17
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seth_kplurals are good11:17
nmorseAnd now I know how to edit the topic in Konversation11:17
_kayAh... :)11:17
seth_k$knowledge++; D11:17
nmorseIndeed11:17
_kayNever saw it so good as in Konversation, btw11:17
nmorseI'm liking Konversation better than X-Chat11:18
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_kayAnd I am not even on the new 0.18 that I just upgraded to (being a Breezy user)11:18
nmorseExcept for the text replacement (lack thereof)11:18
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nmorseand speelin-cheker11:18
_kayIn the past, I was always on xchat too11:18
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seth_kyeah, I'm using Mez's .18ubuntu1 right now11:19
Tm_T:/11:19
_kayHm... Mez?11:19
Tm_Twhy KDE can't use all X fonts11:19
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seth_kguy I work with at invisionfree.com11:20
seth_kI'm his test monkey11:20
_kayah... good11:20
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_kayit is11:22
_kayI just downloaded it, even ubuntu1 already I think11:22
seth_kah, yep. That's Mez's version11:23
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_kayhm, going to check it out11:24
_kaybrb11:24
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_kayNice, even 1 bug fixed :p11:26
seth_khehe11:27
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seth_kfear of the unknown O_O11:28
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Tm_T:/11:32
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_freakhi all11:43
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