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tsengwho was complaining about the muine tray icon12:38
tsengAmaranth?12:38
Amaranthhi12:38
tsengwas that you?12:39
Amaranthyeah12:39
tsengyeah12:39
tsengi fixed it :D12:39
tsengand12:39
tsengadded the inotify plugin12:39
Amaranthyay!12:39
tsengdouble yay12:39
Amaranthyay!12:39
tsengman12:39
tsengi cant wait for dbus now12:39
Amaranthyou're awesome12:39
tseng*G*12:39
tsengthe next upload will be so hardcore12:39
DanielNhm.. i know it's late already, but i have a question about understanding the cxx trans process12:40
whiprushhey tseng. How are you going to package muine plugins?12:44
whiprushindependently or as one package?12:44
tsengwhiprush: inotify has to be part of muine for now12:44
=== whiprush nods
tsengwhiprush: and its probably going to be merged upstream like that12:45
whiprushI hope so.12:45
tsengthe other ones will be their own package12:45
tsenglike muine-ipod12:45
whiprushk12:45
tsengand audioscrobbler12:45
tsengi love that one too12:45
whiprushdude, ruffle is so <312:45
tsengdude12:45
tsengruffle needs a fucking patch, right?12:45
whiprushno, just .8.312:46
whiprushthe one not in hoary.12:46
tsengoh yeah?12:46
whiprushyeah12:46
whiprushall it needs is the newest muine12:46
tsenghm ill try it now12:46
tsengwe'll need a meta package12:46
tsengtsengs-sweet-muine-love12:46
whiprushwhen your queue runs out it'll plop in 10 more songs according to the weights you give it.12:46
tsengto install them all.12:46
whiprushthe audioscrobbler weight generates your playlist based on your audioscrobbler profile.12:47
whiprushit's ninja12:47
tsengoh no shit12:47
whiprushyeah12:47
tseng<3 audioscrobbler12:47
whiprushand you can slide a slider "more randomness" or "more songs that I like alot".12:47
tsenghm that was too easy12:48
tsengi tried this thing a few months ago12:48
tsengand it was hard12:48
whiprushyeah it sucked until recently12:48
tsengso um12:49
tsengoh i need to import12:49
whiprushyeah12:50
whiprushtakes a bit12:50
whiprushbut worth it12:50
tsengdoes it know wheni skip things12:50
whiprushyeah12:50
tsengk.12:50
tsengman12:50
tsengi can be a bigger muine elitist bastard than ever before12:51
whiprushheh12:51
tsengthis is brillaint.12:53
Amaranthtseng: nice12:53
whiprushyeah it's awesome.12:53
whiprushtake that amarok!12:53
Amaranthis audioscrobbler built into this package?12:55
whiprushit's built into amarok.12:55
whiprushmuine has a plugin12:55
tsengAmaranth: no12:55
tsengbut i am thinking of packaging the following sweetness:12:55
Amarantheek, it made two tray icons12:55
tsengascrobbler, ruffle, muine-burn, muine-ipod12:55
Amaranthoh, because i have my own plugin installed too12:55
tsengeh?12:55
tsengoh12:55
whiprusha muine-plugins metapackage would be nice too12:56
tsengi said that12:56
whiprushoh12:56
Amaranthdoesn't muine-ipod need libfaad?12:56
tsenghrm no?12:56
tsengif you want aac i guess12:56
whiprushI think it just talks to gstreamer12:56
Amaranthoh, just gstreamer-faad (and libfaad through that)12:56
tsengi tried to package muine-aac12:56
tsengbut it didnt come out working12:57
Amaranthmuine-aac? that's crack12:57
tsengand i cant split it up either12:57
Amaranthi've got aac files, they work fine12:57
Amaranthbecause gstreamer supports them12:57
tsengin muine?12:57
tsengno12:57
tsengit cant read the metadata12:57
Amarantherr12:57
Amaranthit doesn't use gstreamer for that?12:57
tsengno12:57
tsengnot yet12:57
tsenggst# has no release12:57
tsengbbiab12:57
Amaranthoh, i guess it doesn't read them12:57
Amaranthi don't listen to them much12:58
Amaranthbtw, sonance in cvs has it's won gst-sharp.dll12:58
Amarantherr, own12:58
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tsengAmaranth: hm03:37
tsengAmaranth: yeah the probably rolled in the source since its too unstable to depend on cvs03:37
Amaranthyeah, so if he ever releases 0.4 it could be packaged :)03:37
tsengAmaranth: thats pretty shitty.03:38
tsengmeebey wants to package it03:38
Amaranthif he dropped the goofy images sonance would look nice03:39
Amaranthhttp://sonance.aaronbock.net/screenshots/0.4-teaser/sonance-0.4-teaser.png03:39
tsengit would look like rythmbox with less sucking03:39
Amaranththe music notes and the msn messenger people, i mean03:39
Amaranthhey, rhythmbox 0.9 before the end of this month03:39
tsengim not sure why I care03:39
tsengbesides playbin03:39
tsengwhich isnt in yet03:39
Amaranthaudio cd burning and tag editing03:40
tsengyawn03:40
tseng(muine has plugins for both)03:40
Amaranthnot in ubuntu it doesn't :)03:40
tsengdude03:40
tsengthey couldnt get any easier to install03:40
Amaranthi know, it's just fun poking you :D03:40
Amaranthno offense03:41
tsengyeah thats fine03:42
tsengim easy to troll03:42
=== Amaranth too
tsengdid you try out the inotify love?03:42
Amaranthi don't know how03:43
tsengoh03:43
Amaranthdrop a new file in ~/Music and it automatically shows up?03:43
Amaranthtake one out and it goes away?03:43
tsengjust dump new music into your watched folder03:43
tsengwhatever is in the muine gconf key03:43
tsengas watched_folders03:43
tsengits totally rad03:43
Amaranthtaking things out doesn't work03:44
tsenghm03:44
tsengwe can make that a feature request03:44
tsengadding is way cooler03:44
Amaranthi have nothing to add03:44
tseng:(03:44
AmaranthError loading plug-in InotifyPlugin.dll: /home/travis/Desktop/drivel-2.0.0/~/Music03:45
Amaranthwhoops03:45
Amaranthoh, it's a bug in the gconf key03:45
tsenghm03:45
Amaranthwow, it worked03:46
tsengyeah I hate the Status window in Sonance03:46
Amaranthi just had to remove ~/Music from my watched dirs (i already had /home/travis/Music/)03:46
tsengit has like 30 widgets all showing progress03:46
tsenga spinner, a progress bar, a text widget03:46
Amaranththis is so cool03:47
tsengand you can hide some of them to make the tiny window smaller03:47
tsengyeah it is.. do you have Ruffle?03:47
Amaranthnope03:48
Amaranthgimme a dll? :)03:49
tsengdude its easy03:49
tsengget the tarball of the muine plugins page03:49
tsengmake; make install03:49
tsengthen go to ruffle - prefs - synchronize03:49
tsengand you can start building cool random playlists03:50
Amaranthum, i can't find a tarball for the plugins03:50
tsenghttp://www.informatics.sussex.ac.uk/users/mrm21/ruffle/ruffle-0.3.0b2.tar.gz03:50
Amaranthoh, you meant for just ruffle03:51
Amaranthi was looking for a tarball of all of them :)03:51
tsengno.03:51
Amaranthyay, it stopped halfway through reading tag info03:54
tsengyay03:54
Amaranthprobably on the same file easytag and tagtool segfault on03:54
tsengsounds right03:55
tsengthey all use the same libraries03:55
Amaranthyep03:55
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AmaranthUnhandled Exception: System.Exception: Don't know how to deal with this version.in <0x0005f> Muine.Ruffle.ID3v2:ReadFrameLength () in <0x00081> Muine.Ruffle.ID3v2:ReadHeader () in <0x00113> Muine.Ruffle.ID3v2:Read () in <0x00035> Muine.Ruffle.MP3Reader:Read () in <0x00020> Muine.Ruffle.TagReader:Read () in <0x00374> Muine.Ruffle.RuffleWindow:LoadFileInfo () in (wrapper delegate-invoke) System.MulticastDelegate:invoke_void ()03:56
Amaranthway to catch those exceptions ruffle!03:56
Amaranthfixed that..04:03
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HostingGeekclustered resource group manager05:26
HostingGeekyeah yeah yeah we miss a description!05:26
HostingGeekNice one05:27
chillywillywow, they fianlly released sarge...I didn't even notice that05:55
chillywillyonly took 3 years05:55
chillywilly;P05:55
HostingGeekchillywilly: your old05:58
HostingGeekit happened when it was meant to happen05:58
HostingGeekon the 6th05:59
HostingGeekwith one last min dalay05:59
AmaranthHostingGeek: you'll love these screenshots i have05:59
AmaranthHostingGeek: http://dev.realistanew.com/compare.png http://dev.realistanew.com/compare2.png05:59
Amaranthsmeg and gmenu-simple-editor/smeg and gnome-menu-editor05:59
HostingGeekFAKE!06:01
HostingGeekPhotoshoped!06:02
HostingGeek:P06:02
HostingGeekGimped!06:02
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HostingGeekAmaranth: why does everything come late?06:04
HostingGeekWhen we needed menu editors we had none06:04
chillywillyin 3 years time Ubuntu will have 6 releases...06:04
Amaranthsure we did06:04
HostingGeekWhen we get a menu editor we get 406:04
Amaranthsmeg 0.1 was out about a month after 2.10 was released06:04
HostingGeekAmaranth: yea xfce's06:04
Amaranthit's really coming into it's prime now though06:04
HostingGeekAFTER06:04
AmaranthHostingGeek: I didn't know what was going on with the menus in 2.9, otherwise I would have started sooner. :)06:05
HostingGeek" Welcome to Amaranth Networks, Inc. Amaranth Networks was founded in 1998. Our company provides software and network consulting services to small and mid-sized businesses."06:07
HostingGeek0.o06:07
Amaranthnot me06:07
AmaranthI'd write "Welcome to Amaranth Networks, Inc. Founded in 1998, our company provides software and network consulting services to small and mid-sized businesses."06:08
Amaranthbecause i, like, know english and stuff06:08
HostingGeek small and mid-sized businesses."06:31
HostingGeek<Amaranth> because i, like, know english and stuff06:31
HostingGeekOOOOOOOOOOOps06:31
Amaranthhehe06:32
Amaranthi copied their typo06:32
Amaranthand the other line was supposed to be funny06:32
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Amaranthare things just not getting updated lately or are the buildds stuck on trying to compile java and mono things?08:53
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aiwhi09:30
ivokshi09:31
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ivoksthis is a place where universe is made09:31
aiwi would be glad to help, in whatever limited way my meager skills allow09:31
ivoksyou are good for start09:32
aiwi read about 'masters of the universe' on the slashdot interview with mark shuttleworth09:32
ivoksbetter then me when i started09:32
aiw:-) i am sure you are too kind09:32
ivokstrust me :)09:33
ivoksaiw: you just have to read couple of things09:33
aiwwell, the build finished, now i have a bunch of .debs!09:33
aiwsure, i like to read09:33
ivokshttp://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/09:33
ivokshttp://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MOTU09:34
aiwok, i will work on those, what's next?09:39
ivoksget familliar with packaging09:40
ivoksand hang out here09:40
ivoksyou will learn a lot09:40
ivoksthen you can apply for member, and eventually for MOTU09:40
aiwcool, how long have you been working on ubuntu?09:41
ivoksa month :)09:43
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aiwwell, you have moved right along then09:45
aiwwell, imap now works again!, but squirrelmail is broken09:45
ivokssquirrelmail?09:46
ivokssquirrelmail works great with imap09:46
ivoksi have couple of installations09:46
aiwi have been using it for years, and love it, it was working until i id the sarge upgrade this evening09:47
ivoksaiw: you have to reconfigure it09:47
ivoksto use IMAP09:47
aiwivoks: it has always been configured to use imap,09:48
ivoksi have this: Maildir | pop3/imap | mail apps (squirellmail, mutt, evolution)09:48
aiwi run qmail, vpopmail for vitrual domains, and squirrelmail/courier-imap09:48
ivoksi like postfix :)09:48
aiwivoks: this server has a few dozen domains on it09:49
ivoksaiw there is some squirelmail-configure tools09:49
aiwqmail has been wonderful, but it isn't supported at al under debian, so i am considering changing to something supported by debian09:49
ivoksdebian is pushing exim...09:50
ivoksi prefere postfix09:50
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ivokswell... time to go...09:51
whiprushaiw: you want postfix dude.09:51
aiwivoks: thanks for all your help, i learned alot09:51
ivoksnp09:51
whiprushif you look in /etc/squirrelmail there's a configure perl script.09:52
whiprushrun that, fill in the stuff, and sqmail should work great09:52
aiwwhiprush: is there a way to migrate all my mail accounts from vpopmail to whatever does virtual domains under postfix?09:52
whiprushhard question.09:53
whiprushhow do you store your mail on your server?09:53
whiprushmaildirs, mbox?09:53
ivoksmaildir rulz :)09:53
aiwmaildirs09:54
aiwit's a qmail installation09:54
ivoksmaildir is qmail invention :)09:55
aiwqmail has been rock solid for something like 7 years now, migrated through several servers, redhat, suse, debian09:55
aiwthat dan berstein must be one smart guy09:55
whiprushall you should need to do is tell postfix to deliver to those maildirs.09:55
ivoksyeah09:55
ivoksand, change login.defs09:56
ivoksand pam.d/login09:56
ivoksand pam.d/su09:56
ivoks:)09:56
ivoksssh too09:56
whiprushon my system it's home_mailbox = ~/Maildir in /etc/postix/main.cf09:56
aiwhow will i get all the domains/accounts/passwords into postfix? I have been using vpopmail for virtual mail domains09:57
aiwthere are no local accounts, everyone is virtual09:57
whiprushyou'd have to recreate those for postfix.09:57
whiprushI've never used virtual users though09:57
whiprushso I have no idea.09:57
aiwyikes, there are hundreds, or thousands09:57
whiprushI have the postfix book, but it's at work so I can't look that up for you at the moment09:58
schweebthere's documentation on it09:58
schweebat postfix's site09:58
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aiwi will take alook09:58
aiwthe config to make qmail work under debian is torturous09:59
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tsenggreat flame bait on osnews today02:48
tseng"time to get smart"02:48
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ivokshi MOTUs03:22
tsenghi.03:22
ivoksanything new on brave packageing frontier? :)03:25
tsengyes, the next muine upload will rock03:25
ivoksrock on! :)03:25
tsenginotify++03:26
ivokswhat about rhythmbox?03:26
tsengwho cares03:26
ivoks:))03:26
tsengno, i just tried to build it from cvs03:26
tsengi cant03:26
ivoksopencv is giving me kopfsmerz03:27
ivoksthere was version 0.9.6 in sid03:28
ivoksi packaged it for ubuntu, it's FTBS03:28
ivoksand now there is 0.9.5 in sid03:28
ivoksi guess they have same problems :)03:28
tsengheadache?03:30
ivoksyeah, headache03:30
tsengive never heard "smerz"03:30
DanielNschmertz :)03:31
ivoksi couldn't remeber spelling in english03:31
ivokslol, german spelling was bad either :)03:31
DanielN;)03:31
ivokskopfschmertz03:31
DanielNargh03:31
DanielNsorry03:31
DanielNkopschmerz03:31
DanielNwithout t03:31
ivoksoh, ok03:31
DanielN:)03:31
ivoksja, ja... :)03:31
DanielNah, ivoks: when needs still a third reviewer ;>03:32
ivokslol03:32
ivoksok...03:32
DanielNhihi03:32
DanielNhurry up, ivoks :P03:32
ivokstake it easy...03:33
ivoksi have one package there that was before you, and it still isn't reviewed :(03:34
ivoksHTTP request sent, awaiting response...03:36
ivokslol, big package :)03:36
ivoksThis package was debianized by Daniel Neuenschwander - that's a lie :)03:37
DanielNivoks: lol, cool down.. i wouldn't stress you up ;)03:37
DanielNivoks: huh?03:38
ivoksdebian-stuff/ is from upstream03:38
ivoksit has everything in it :)03:38
DanielNyeah03:39
DanielNi know that03:39
ivoksinstall --mode=755 temp /tmp/when-1.0.23/debian/when/usr/bin/when03:39
ivoks?03:39
ivoksah... ok :)03:39
DanielN:)03:39
ivokslooks ok03:40
DanielNcool03:41
ivoksok, it get's my approval03:42
DanielNwoho.. thanks03:42
DanielN:>03:42
ivoksi can't upload it03:43
ivoksbut, hey, you'll get my vote03:43
DanielNivoks: ah, right you're not MOTU yet03:44
DanielN:)03:45
ivoksi am, but... doh...03:45
ivoksstill don't have upload account03:45
DanielN;(03:45
DanielNhehe03:45
ivoksthere, are you happy now? :)03:47
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tsengwth cant i make new folders in gconf-editor03:57
ivoksdoh... time to go...03:59
ivokssee you!03:59
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tsengso should i name muine plugins packages like04:10
tsengmuine-ipod, or muine-plugins-ipod04:10
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DanielNi've got a question about the cxx transition04:15
ogramuine-ipod-support ?04:15
DanielNis the debdiff all i have to provide?04:15
ograyes, attach it to the bug...04:16
DanielNyeah, i'm doing it like that. but is that all? no source package in anyway?04:16
ograthe debdiff is enough04:18
DanielNcool :)04:19
DanielNarghl, the session handling of the ubuntulinux.org wiki is silly :/04:37
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abarbacciahahah - i love the topic - every time i come back to see how people are doing theres something new to NOT complain about for 2 weeks05:02
DanielN\sh: ping :)05:19
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tsengoh man that looks awful05:43
tsengselecting multiple albums in a row in muine with new clearlooks gradient stuff05:43
|QuaD-_whats clearlooks?05:43
tsengthe default gtk theme in ubuntu?05:47
|QuaD-_oh, lol05:48
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DanielN\sh: ping07:07
\shDanielN: pong07:10
\shanybodies coming to the "World Youth Day 2005 in Cologne"?07:11
\shhmmm07:11
\shright...is anybody coming ;)07:11
\shDanielN: hrdb5?07:24
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siretarthi folks!08:01
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=== Topic for #ubuntu-motu: Ubuntu Masters of the Universe | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Calendar | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTodo | please file universe bugs in https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/distros/ubuntu/+bugs | Please dont complain about mono deps for next 2 weeks | Please dont complain about X for the next 2 weeks
=== Topic (#ubuntu-motu): set by \sh at Thu Jun 9 14:45:17 2005
siretartmfgalizi: which package?08:25
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mfgalizisiretart: libxvmcw08:28
siretartmfgalizi: I never heard about it. Is it a cxx transition, or just an updated or a NEW package?08:29
siretartmfgalizi: where can I look at the source?08:29
mfgaliziNEW08:29
mfgaliziunichrome.sf.net08:29
siretartmfgalizi: please add it to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MOTUNewPackages then08:30
mfgalizik...08:30
siretartmfgalizi: isn't there an ITP for debian ongoing for this lib?08:31
mfgaliziI didn't see one.08:31
mfgaliziI'll check again (that would be fantastic)08:31
siretartah, now I see it08:31
siretartyou requested sponsorship for it for debian, right?08:32
mfgalizi:)08:32
mfgalizigot nothing back though08:32
siretartmfgalizi: thats sad. perhaps you should ask in #debian-mentors. If it gets included in debian, we will sync it automatically to ubuntu08:32
mfgaliziok08:33
mfgalizity08:33
siretartmfgalizi: and you really should file an ITP against WNPP08:33
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Burgundaviasiretart, did you get anywhere the the glest package?08:33
siretartBurgundavia: sorry08:34
=== siretart rather fighting with CXX transistion, has priority atm for me
Burgundavianp08:39
Burgundaviathe cxx transition is more important08:39
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ivokshi all09:26
ivoksYEAH!09:42
ivoksit compiles09:42
MithrandirSHIP IT!09:43
Mithrandir:-)09:43
ivoksMithrandir: time to test it on amd6409:43
ivoksMithrandir: lesstif2-dev tk8.4-dev tcl8.4-dev libxaw7-dev (please) :)09:44
NafalloMithrandir: doesn't that amd64 thingie have pbuilder? :-P09:45
Mithrandirivoks: done.09:46
MithrandirNafallo: pbuilder is Arch: all09:46
ivoksthanks09:46
NafalloMithrandir: hmm, never mind me. I forgot to think.09:47
siretartivoks: remember our gmx / webdav discussion? I just found this one: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15305409:47
ivokssiretart: gmx returns wrong error09:49
ivokssiretart: instead of noauth error09:49
ivokssiretart: it returns no such dir09:49
ivoksthat's the problem...09:50
ivokswhen nautilus revices no such dir, it quits connection09:50
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ivokswell... in gnome they know that problem09:51
ivoksso they will find workaround09:52
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ivoksMithrandir: :)10:14
ivoksMithrandir: libraw1394-dev libdc1394-13-dev libgtk2.0-dev10:14
siretartw000h000. the new source package format of the dpkg 1.13 branch really ROCKS!10:21
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ivoksdoko: ping10:29
dokopong10:29
ivoksdoko: opencv can be build against ffmpeg10:29
ivoksshould i do that, or leave package as is10:29
ivoks(not compiled with ffmpeg support)10:30
dokohmm, Is this necessary?10:30
ivoksno10:30
ivoksit's an option10:30
ivoksi guess it wasn't included10:30
ivokscause ffmpeg wasn't in debian10:30
dokoare there license issues, i.e. are you allowed to link it?10:30
ivoksnow it is.10:30
ivoksffmpeg is GPL10:31
ivoksacording to /usr/share/doc/ffmpeg/copyright10:32
siretartI remember jvw talking about patent issus under consideration for ffmpeg in debian on some list10:37
siretartI don't have references, though..10:37
dokoivoks: well, do it, put a separate patch int the archive and point Debian to it10:37
ivoksdoko: ok10:37
dokoivoks: or ask jvm first ... ;-)10:38
ivoksfirst, i have to build it with or without ffmpeg on amd64 :)10:39
ivoksyuhu! builded10:41
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ivoksdoko: well, there is no patch for ffmpeg support10:46
ivoksdoko: only change in debian/control (added libavcodec-dev as dependecy)10:47
dokoivoks: that is a patch :)10:51
ivoks:))10:51
ivoksah, allright...10:51
Mithrandirivoks: done10:56
ivoksthanks :)10:56
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ivoksMithrandir: and libavcodec-dev :)11:05
ivoksMithrandir: sorry :(11:05
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Mithrandirivoks: done11:13
ivoksyou are so sweet :)11:14
ivoksuh...11:16
ivoksopencv is finally ok11:16
ivoksnext target... openscenegraph11:17
doogluspackage libcurses-perl doesn't contain anything but documentation any more.  is that a bug?11:28
ivoksdooglus: does it depend on other packages?11:30
dooglusivoks: Depends: perl11:31
dooglusivoks: libcurses-perl_1.08b-1_i386.deb contained a .so, a .bs and a .pm11:32
dooglusivoks: but libcurses-perl_1.12-1_i386.deb is missing all 3 of those11:32
dooglusivoks: is there somewhere I can see the history of the package, to see if the change was deliberate or accidental?  like a CVS log, or something?11:32
ivokshm...11:34
ivoks /usr/share/doc/libcurses-perl/changelog.Debian.gz11:34
dooglusI see /usr/share/doc/libcurses-perl/changelog.Debian.gz - but that doesn't tell me much.  the last change was "  * New upstream release"11:34
ivokscheck tja\\hat11:35
ivoksdooglus: contact maintainer11:35
dooglusivoks: contact maintainer, or raise a bug in the bug system?11:35
dooglusMaintainer: Jay Bonci <jaybonci@debian.org> -- is that who you mean?  Or would there be a Ubuntu guy?11:36
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ivoksfile a bug report11:37
ivoksi'm off to bed11:37
ivoksby all11:37
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tsenghi11:58
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Nafallohi tseng :-)12:00
tsengwhats up12:01

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