[12:00] <robert__> y
[12:00] <xerox> Is it possible to have vlc without the wxvlc package?
[12:00] <robert__> enter
[12:00] <kimo> flodine: why add, replace the resolution
[12:00] <Zzrdvark> what is the harddrive space requirement for ubuntu 5.04?
[12:00] <zerokills> anyone know how to turn esd back on?
[12:00] <nalioth> kuntu: be advised, your ISP will trap all false IPs LEAVING its network
[12:00] <kimo> flodine: u can switch with, ctrl+alt+numericplus
[12:00] <confrey> how can I exchange governor? I want use powersave when I only use the battery on my laptop
[12:00] <kuntu> IPs ?
[12:00] <kuntu> im talking about mac
[12:00] <nickrud> Zzrdvark, they recommend about 2GB, 4-6 will give you room to experiment
[12:00] <afroman> xolotl_, as I said it is a Compaq Presario v510, although I dunno wot the rates are
[12:01] <robert__> xolotl_: After running ifconfig after ifup eth0, it sees eth0, but doesn't bring up anything
[12:01] <Zzrdvark> hmm... can i install in 1GB?
[12:01] <flodine> kimo after i add it i can just switch to it that way
[12:01] <zerokills> afroman: have you tried looking up your monitor on google? maybe you can find some information there
[12:01] <nickrud> Zzrdvark, maybe the server version, I don't know
[12:01] <kimo> flodine: yeah, and you need to restart X after every change to the file
[12:01] <Howitzer> anyone using firefox, i recommend you all an extension: https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=79
[12:01] <kuntu> how do i run games using jails and so on ?
[12:01] <prock> 'anyone using firefox' har
[12:02] <Howitzer> remove an item temporarily from a website
[12:02] <xolotl_> afroman, try a google search - those numbers have gotta be around somewhere - I'll take a look in a second too
[12:02] <Zzrdvark> the system requirements should probably be posted prominently in the wiki
[12:02] <Zzrdvark> i couldn't find them
[12:02] <nickrud> prock, actually I use epipany by pref :)
[12:02] <nalioth> Howitzer: ff kinda blows, if ya want my opinion
[12:02] <Zzrdvark> thx nickrud
[12:02] <Howitzer> why
[12:02] <Howitzer> ?
[12:02] <Howitzer> weird actually
[12:02] <kimo> xolotl_: well, I was seriously fighting to get an InFocus projector working today with my linux laptop. I could not! Any tricks
[12:02] <nalioth> Howitzer: it's a memory hawg
[12:03] <Howitzer> in the 'windows world' everybody is enlightened by FF
[12:03] <nalioth> Howitzer: and its SLOW
[12:03] <Howitzer> in linux they aren't
[12:03] <Howitzer> it isn't slow :x
[12:03] <Howitzer> oky
[12:03] <robert__> DHCPDISCOVER on sit0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 4
[12:03] <robert__> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 3
[12:03] <robert__> DHCPOFFER from 10.154.112.1
[12:03] <robert__> DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
[12:03] <robert__> DHCPACK from 10.154.112.1
[12:03] <robert__> bound to 67.176.86.116 -- renewal in 2678 seconds.
[12:03] <robert__> this is what dhclient shows on the working Ubuntu install
[12:03] <nalioth> Howitzer: i don't care to discuss my poor windozed brethren
[12:03] <Howitzer> it maaaay take 120mb ram or 2 google pages but it still is good
[12:03] <xolotl_> kimo, projector...  not really - is it with a laptop?
[12:03] <nickrud> Howitzer, linux provides more options
[12:04] <Howitzer> maybe so
[12:04] <kimo> xolotl_: yes I am trying to connect a laptop. Any resolution is ok
[12:04] <Howitzer> what do you use then?
[12:04] <robert__> I don't get any DHCPOFFERs on the other install.
[12:04] <nalioth> Howitzer: yes, like epiphany, galeon, links, elinks, lynx, amaya, w3m, dillo, kazekahase, and more i'm sure i'm forgetting
[12:04] <xolotl_> robert__, yup - that's what it should do
[12:04] <robert__> yep
[12:04] <Howitzer> hmm
[12:04] <Howitzer> never used those
[12:05] <robert__> What config file could I have missed?
[12:05] <kimo> xolotl_: what's getting on my nerves, is what does it work easily on windows, without any special drivers! grr
[12:05] <Howitzer> maybe when i use Linux for a more serious purpose
[12:05] <xolotl_> robert__, check to see what services are running on bootup
[12:05] <wC> hello
[12:05] <robert__> how do I get dhclient to run on bootup?
[12:05] <xolotl_> kimo, it should work without drivers
[12:05] <Howitzer> Does anyone know a free mail provider with IMAP access?
[12:05] <nalioth> kimo: windows also sends everything you type to uncle bill (unless you use a 3d party prog to lock it down)
[12:05] <robert__> or rather, eth0 to start on bootup and grab an IP from dhclient
[12:05] <wc_nix> hello
[12:06] <robert__> without having to run ifup eth0
[12:06] <xolotl_> kimo, you may have an issue with your laptop's external display port is my guess
[12:06] <wc_nix> i'm having major problems with Ubuntu's 5.04 A64 release
[12:06] <wc_nix> if anybody is willing to help, please PM me
[12:06] <kimo> xolotl_: no, it is working on windows (same machine)
[12:06] <wc_nix> it has to do with the libs
[12:06] <fabian_> guten abend
[12:06] <fabian_> noch jemand da?
[12:07] <wc_nix> can people read my text?
[12:07] <fabian_> sorry, english in here, right?
[12:07] <robert__> fabian_: englisch =] 
[12:07] <Howitzer> Does anyone know a free mail provider with IMAP access?
[12:07] <robert__> yep
[12:07] <nalioth> wc_nix: you mand amd64?
[12:07] <wc_nix> yes
[12:07] <wc_nix> thing is giving me a heap of trouble
[12:07] <robert__> Howitzer: no need to repeat yourself
[12:07] <nalioth> fabian_: please english
[12:07] <Howitzer> yes sorry but no response :(
[12:07] <fabian_> got a problem: i want to install the newest jdk. got the bin-thing from the sun page. how do I install this?
[12:07] <wc_nix> Ubuntu is the only distro to work properly with my laptop's screen
[12:07] <kuntu> isnt ubuntu using ifplugd ?
[12:08] <nalioth> Howitzer: yes, please limit repeats of the same ??? to more than several minutes apart. if some1 knows the answer, they'll speak up
[12:08] <xolotl_> afroman, tried searching the compaq.com website?
[12:08] <Howitzer> oh
[12:08] <nalioth> wc_nix: what is the problem?
[12:08] <wc_nix> the libs
[12:08] <wc_nix> i cannot install squat
[12:08] <wc_nix> i've tried to install so many diff things
[12:08] <flodine> kimo when you say replace resolution what do you mean
[12:08] <Howitzer> so about 2-3minutes?(i'm really not trying to annoy/irritate/offend nyone)
[12:08] <wc_nix>  the ./configure fails and therefore I cannot make nor make install
[12:08] <xolotl_> kimo, the issue isn't likely hardware - software - linux sometimes requires special drivers to enable the external video ports
[12:08] <kuntu> isnt ubuntu using ifplugd ?
[12:08] <nalioth> wc_nix: well, amd64 (and PPC) are poor red-headed-stepchildren in the binary department
[12:09] <robert__> xolotl_: Any ideas on what I could have missed?
[12:09] <rics> hello!
[12:09] <wc_nix> nalioth, do you suggest I uninstall and install the x86 version of Ubuntu?
[12:09] <wc_nix> i was told the Athlon 64 distro would run just as well
[12:09] <nalioth> wc_nix: that is one option, but i think i can do you one better
[12:09] <wc_nix> that if you had the source it'd compile it to run properly
[12:09] <rics> I downloaded gPHPEdit right now. It's a .deb file. How can I install it here in my Ubuntu system? It will create the menu entry as well?
[12:09] <yaaar> word
[12:09] <nalioth> wc_nix: are you familiar with how to use apt-get?
[12:10] <wc_nix> i learned it yesterday
[12:10] <xolotl_> robert__, not off the top of my head - what is the exact command line you run to get dhclient started?
[12:10] <wc_nix> i came from Fedora / FreeBSD / Gentoo
[12:10] <wc_nix> so I only know manual installs, PKG_ system, and emerge
[12:10] <robert__> xolotl_: /sbin/dhclient
[12:10] <wc_nix> I got 2 things from apt-get which i found on the ubuntu forums
[12:10] <xolotl_> robert__, and you've tried dhclient3 as well?
[12:11] <nalioth> wc_nix: welcome to ubuntuand here we go
[12:11] <robert__> no
[12:11] <nalioth> wc_nix: take notes
[12:11] <robert__> but 1 more question, how do I get it to startup on boot?
[12:11] <wc_nix> one sec let me open Gedit
[12:11] <robert__> eth0
[12:11] <wc_nix> btw can you say it in a PM
[12:11] <Howitzer> nalioth, can i make the modification to the about:config permanent?
[12:11] <wc_nix> it'll make it easier to copy/paste
[12:11] <nalioth> wc_nix: are your deb-src lines enabled in your sources.list?
[12:11] <wc_nix> no clue
[12:11] <nalioth> Howitzer: it is permanent, you did it whallago
[12:11] <Howitzer> eh
[12:12] <nalioth> wc_nix: i'd prefer to say it here, so all these lurkers might learn something
[12:12] <Howitzer> it resetted itself to 1.0 when i restarted FF
[12:12] <wc_nix> alrighty
[12:12] <wc_nix> where is sources.list
[12:12] <wc_nix> in /etc?
[12:12] <nalioth> wc_nix: open (as root) /etc/apt/sources.list and make sure any line beginning with deb-src is uncommented
[12:12] <robert__> /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:12] <xolotl_> robert__, it should start up automatically, but the way it works is that the system looks in /etc/inittab - figures out what the default run level is set to, looks in /etc/rc<runlevelnumber>.d/ and follows all the links in that directory to the /etc/init.d/ directory and starts the appropriate scripts.
[12:12] <wc_nix> i'll use nano
[12:12] <wc_nix> one sec
[12:13] <wc_nix> oh crap
[12:13] <wc_nix> they're all commented
[12:13] <vicks> Howitzer: http://www.emailaddresses.com/email_imap.htm
[12:13] <nalioth> wc_nix: no prob, just uncomment them
[12:13] <robert__> xolotl_: ok, well i still have to run ifup eth0 to get eth0 up and running
[12:13] <Howitzer> oh my
[12:13] <Howitzer> ty vicks
[12:13] <robert__> wc_nix: then apt-get update
[12:14] <wc_nix> one sec
[12:14] <Howitzer> you guys were right after all about the waiting :D
[12:14] <wc_nix> i uncommented it but not used to nano
[12:14] <wc_nix> havent used nano in about 11 months
[12:14] <nalioth> deb-src http://perso.wanadoo.fr/debian/ unstable main
[12:14] <nalioth> crap
[12:14] <ompaul> Howitzer, would that be a breezy wait?
[12:14] <vicks> Howitzer: no problem
[12:14] <fabian_> got it! cu
[12:14] <nalioth> wc_nix: take your time
[12:14] <flodine> does ubuntu have a new xorg confi or do i need to update it
[12:14] <Howitzer> ompaul, what do you mean by breezy?
[12:14] <xolotl_> robert__, you shouldn't have to do any command line stuff really - check for settings in your /etc/?network? file - compare the 2 computers
[12:14] <ompaul> from the topic
[12:15] <wc_nix> hey
[12:15] <nalioth> Howitzer: breezy is the next version of ubuntu
[12:15] <zerokills> breezy badger
[12:15] <wc_nix> can i get MC real quick?
[12:15] <wc_nix> Midnight Commander
[12:15] <Howitzer> oh
[12:15] <wc_nix> i like it better for editing configs
[12:15] <nalioth> Howitzer: it doesn work very well atm
[12:15] <Howitzer> oh
[12:15] <xolotl_> robert__, pardon me, /etc/network is a directory, not a file - either way, check in there and compare the 2 comptuers
[12:15] <robert__> xolotl_: They are the same. /etc/network/interfaces has iface eth0 inet dhcp
[12:15] <Howitzer> so i'll better wait untill it goes stable?
[12:15] <nickrud> wc_nix, I haven't heard some say that about mc in years :0
[12:15] <flodine> what version of xorg does ubuntu have
[12:15] <nalioth> Howitzer: YES
[12:15] <Howitzer> okay
[12:16] <nickrud> wc_nix, yeah, it's available from universe
[12:16] <Howitzer> as a noob, i should not be confronted with a non-stable OS :x
[12:16] <nalioth> wc_nix: you can "sudo apt-get install mc" and have it quickly
[12:16] <zerokills> howitzer: indeed. stick with ubuntu for now til you learn more
[12:16] <Howitzer> yep
[12:16] <xolotl_> robert__, are all the drivers / kernel modules the same?
[12:17] <Howitzer> but is Ubuntu good for learning, or also for perm. use?
[12:17] <chaps0063> I am having trouble with my sound, it used to play but doesn't anymore
[12:17] <robert__> xolotl_: in where? aliases?
[12:17] <nickrud> Howitzer, both
[12:17] <Mez> yeah howitzer - it's good for both :d
[12:17] <wc_nix> really
[12:17] <wc_nix> ?
[12:17] <wc_nix> but i dont have the servers setup yet
[12:17] <kimo> chaps0063: make sure it is not mute, use alsamixer or gnome's mixer
[12:17] <Howitzer> my dad said i should peek around a bit in Ubuntu, get to know Linux, and then step over to Debian Sarge
[12:17] <nalioth> wc_nix: yes you do
[12:17] <nickrud> wc_nix, you may need to enable universe in /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:17] <zerokills> ive tried a few different distros, and ubuntu is the best
[12:17] <nalioth> wc_nix: it'll work
[12:17] <xolotl_> robert__, lsmod
[12:18] <robert__> already have
[12:18] <robert__> mii                     4736  1 via_rhine
[12:18] <chaps0063> kimo, ok, its workin now, thats what it was, the speaker was turned down
[12:18] <xolotl_> robert__, sorry man - without sticking my fingers in it, I'm having a hard time coming up with ideas
[12:18] <robert__> me too =\
[12:18] <Efwis> hmm, everytime I get that "alarm" sound my network usage jumps to a 90% or higher, and my load jumps to 5%. any Ideas what might be causing my issue?
[12:18] <xolotl_> robert__, you did try switching cards???
[12:19] <wc_nix> nalioth, i also uncommented the regular deb ones, is that good
[12:19] <wc_nix> ?
[12:19] <robert__> well, I can't
[12:19] <robert__> they're onboard
[12:19] <zerokills> i typed in 'pkill esd', and know the command to turn it back on?
[12:19] <kanzen> hi, I'm getting an error when using "apt-get install foo" to install a new kernel this holds true for kernels in both main and universe:  "/usr/sbin/mkinitrd: /dev/evms/.nodes/sdb5: Cannot find LVM device"
[12:19] <xolotl_> robert__, hence the hdd switch
[12:19] <zerokills> anyone know*
[12:19] <nickrud> zerokills, you can start esd in a terminal
[12:19] <robert__> yup
[12:19] <zerokills> nickrud: just type esd?
[12:19] <Howitzer> hmmm
[12:19] <wc_nix> btw does apt-get work like the emerge function in Gentoo?
[12:19] <nalioth> wc_nix: did you read the comments? some are outdated
[12:19] <nickrud> zerokills, yes, but it will tie up that terminal
[12:19] <Miks> how can i add a trash can icon in my desktop...i mean, not in the gnome panel...i want a trash icon in my desktop or in my launcher....whats the command to access the trash can?
[12:20] <kanzen> also there are a bunch of of "file descriptor n left open" where n is an integer 3 - 7
[12:20] <Howitzer> i forgot where i got my GMAIL extension :/
[12:20] <zerokills> nickrud: k thanks
[12:20] <robert__>  lspci -vv|grep Ethernet
[12:20] <robert__> 0000:00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II]  (rev 74)
[12:20] <robert__>         Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine II]  Embeded Ethernet Controller on VT8235
[12:20] <nickrud> zerokills, a better method is alt-F2, and type esd there
[12:20] <nalioth> wc_nix: don't know, never used gentoo
[12:20] <xolotl_> robert__, how fresh is the install..? - tried re-installing/?
[12:20] <robert__> 1day
[12:20] <robert__> and yea
[12:20] <robert__> i have
[12:20] <Mez> hmm
[12:20] <nalioth> Miks: gconf i believe has a setting for that
[12:20] <Mez> I'm very very very very tempted to do a debian install aswell as this
[12:20] <kanzen> my root disks are mirrored with md (set up during the hoary install)
[12:20] <Miks> thanks nalioth
[12:20] <LinuxJones> wc_nix, it's fairly similar to emerge yeah
[12:20] <Mez> but but i dunno if it's worth it
[12:20] <xolotl_> robert__, do you remember how you enabled the other computer with your ISP?
[12:21] <zerokills> nickrud: sweet, thanks man
[12:21] <robert__> xolotl_: i didn't do anything
[12:21] <nalioth> mez, while hitting your head on the fence post?
[12:21] <robert__> it autodetected everything
[12:21] <wc_nix> k
[12:21] <xolotl_> robert__, sounds similar to Shaw here...
[12:21] <wc_nix> figured it was since Gentoo is debian-based
[12:21] <nickrud> zerokills, I've killed esd a zillion times, it's pretty ....
[12:21] <robert__> ?
[12:21] <nalioth> wc_nix: gentoo is debian based? huh?
[12:21] <robert__> wc_nix: gentoo isn't debian based
[12:21] <Howitzer> ffs
[12:22] <wc_nix> it isnt?
[12:22] <kanzen> I looked around and this seems to have been aknown issue with debian and a patch was created for mkinitrd to work around this. It looks like the patch was applied to the ubuntu mkinitrd and I can't seem to find any other references to this problem
[12:22] <robert__> no
[12:22] <wc_nix> i thought it was :-X
[12:22] <wc_nix> btw in X-Chat how the hell you change background to black, i did it once before
[12:22] <Howitzer> OR FF is going hella-slow, OR my internet connection is going at a max of 9600bauds :/
[12:23] <wc_nix> nevermind
[12:23] <wc_nix> i fixed it
[12:23] <wc_nix> :-D
[12:23] <zerokills> i'm getting an error from GAIM when i try to go into a chat using AIM connection: SNAC threw error: Request denied.  anyone have any ideas?
[12:23] <kanzen> oh and building an initrdless kernel using make-kpkg works fine
[12:23] <nalioth> wc_nix: use irssi
[12:23] <nalioth> zerokills: it is protecting you from the tAint
[12:24] <wc_nix> irssi?
[12:24] <Howitzer> i am SO happy Windows XP screwed up, otherwise i would've never tried Ubuntu at this level :d
[12:24] <zerokills> nalioth: tAint?
[12:24] <kanzen> so it seems like this has something to do with mkinitrd. I was also getting this problem on an earlier install with no RAID devices
[12:24] <xolotl_> robert__, gotta get going and try to get /my/ ubuntu installed, sorry - if I think of something, I'll try to get back in here.
[12:24] <kanzen> wc_nix: irssi is strong
[12:24] <zerokills> howistzer: welcome to Ubuntu :)
[12:24] <Howitzer> :D
[12:25] <Howitzer> it's been since the glorious wednesday :D
[12:25] <nickrud> Howitzer, welcome to the free world
[12:25] <Howitzer> indeed
[12:25] <Howitzer> and it's all so organized
[12:25] <nalioth> zerokills: along with winduhs, i hate AOL as much
[12:25] <Howitzer> apt-get can get you anything you desire
[12:25] <wc_nix> what is irssi
[12:25] <wc_nix> heard of it
[12:25] <zerokills> nalioth: aggreed
[12:25] <kanzen> wc_nix: console based IRC client
[12:25] <Howitzer> no roaming google fending off spam and trojans!
[12:25] <Howitzer> Oo
[12:25] <Howitzer> use X-chat
[12:26] <zerokills> nalioth: what do you suggest for a popular chat service?
[12:26] <Howitzer> although i miss the NNS script for mIRC :(
[12:26] <nalioth> zerokills: hmmmm IRC?
[12:26] <wc_nix> oh
[12:26] <wc_nix> i used bitchx for console IRC
[12:26] <zerokills> nalioth: heh
[12:26] <kanzen> wc_nix: irssi is like bitchX without the suck
[12:26] <wc_nix> lol
[12:26] <Howitzer> lol
[12:26] <wc_nix> actually, i think i have used irssi
[12:26] <Howitzer> is irssi an irc client? :x
[12:27] <wc_nix> i think it was on one of my liveCD distros
[12:27] <nalioth> kanzen: yessir
[12:27] <wc_nix> could have been knoppix std
[12:27] <nalioth> Howitzer: yes, shall i list all the irc clients i know of?
[12:27] <wc_nix> had to use it when x11 wouldnt open
[12:27] <nalioth> Howitzer: n/m there are far too many
[12:27] <Howitzer> ehh
[12:27] <Howitzer> no need :D
[12:27] <Howitzer> but isn't there an exact linux copy of mIRC?
[12:27] <Howitzer> including it's scripting function?
[12:28] <nalioth> Howitzer: xchat is closest, i believe
[12:28] <wc_nix> nalioth, i got mc from apt-get
[12:28] <wc_nix> :-D
[12:28] <wc_nix> woohoo
[12:28] <Howitzer> what is mc?
[12:28] <wc_nix> does apt-get also get all the dependencies?
[12:28] <Efwis> Howitzer: you could try bitchX, but not sure on that
[12:28] <nickrud> heh, is there a scriptable chat thingo I don't need to learn perl for :)
[12:28] <wc_nix> mc is Midnight Commander, an awesome console text editor
[12:28] <kanzen> mIRC is like McDonald's of IRC. It's quick, easy, ultimately unsatisfying and everyone associates it with IRC these days.
[12:28] <Howitzer> nickrud,  yes there is
[12:28] <nalioth> Howitzer: "midnight commander" an ancient (but still powerful) file mangler
[12:29] <nalioth> wc_nix: file mangler!
[12:29] <nalioth> hee hee
[12:29] <wc_nix> ?
[12:29] <blueyed> I have a tool that needs "/usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2" - in which package is it?
[12:29] <Howitzer> hmm i'll try it, i hate nautilus :x
[12:29] <nalioth> Howitzer: you'll be surprised. <eg>
[12:29] <nickrud> mc is a truly fine thing, it'll install on a extremely minimal linux install
[12:29] <nalioth> Howitzer: try konqueror
[12:29] <Howitzer> i'm not on KDE
[12:29] <nalioth> Howitzer: it doesnt matter, it'll install
[12:29] <Howitzer> i tried dl'ing it but i think i didn't get the full packge :x
[12:29] <zth__> geez! i lost all my sound by some reason, i tried the http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063 tutorial there, when i restarted i got some alsa errors, so i got everyting back to normal and now i can't hear any sounds!!! i get no errors at all, the sounds just DEAD! amarok says it plays a song but i can't hear shit.
[12:30] <nalioth> Howitzer: apt-get will do it for ya
[12:30] <wc_nix> omg apt-get ROCKS
[12:30] <Howitzer> omg
[12:30] <Howitzer> IT DOES
[12:30] <wc_nix> thanks for helping me understand it
[12:30] <nickrud> zth__, have you tried resetting sound volumes with alsamixer
[12:30] <wc_nix> thanks so much nalioth
[12:30] <nalioth> wc_nix: we aint got started yet
[12:30] <blueyed> zth__: check that you haven't muted anything.
[12:30] <Howitzer> and i finally have the automated movement of apt-get install :d
[12:30] <wc_nix> i just used it to get xmms, but xmms wont run
[12:30] <wc_nix> heh
[12:30] <nalioth> wc_nix: ya ready for your lessons?
[12:31] <zth__> ohh
[12:31] <wc_nix> sure but one thing
[12:31] <wc_nix> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glib1.2/libglib1.2_1.2.10-9_amd64.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[12:31] <zth__> it was muted
[12:31] <zth__> lol
[12:31] <Howitzer> wai
[12:31] <Howitzer> wait
[12:31] <Howitzer> apt-get install automaticly installs a whole KDE package
[12:31] <nalioth> wc_nix: go in and change all the us.xxx.archive  to just xxx.archive
[12:31] <wc_nix> where?
[12:31] <Howitzer> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[12:31] <Howitzer>   dbus-qt-1 kcontrol kdebase-data kdebase-kio-plugins kfind konqueror
[12:31] <nalioth> Howitzer: apt-get will install what YOU tell it to
[12:32] <nickrud> Howitzer, if you just asked for konqueror, it will get *only* what it needs, not all of kde
[12:32] <Howitzer> for this time it doesn't actually
[12:32] <nalioth> Howitzer: that is by far not ALL of kde
[12:32] <Howitzer> oh
[12:32] <Howitzer> but i installed some other KDE pieces a while ago
[12:32] <nalioth> Howitzer: if you want kde, install "kubuntu-desktop"
[12:32] <Howitzer> oooooh
[12:32] <Howitzer> i did KDE :x
[12:33] <wc_nix> nalioth, where are those us.xxx.archive
[12:33] <wc_nix> ?
[12:33] <Howitzer> Linux rules Windows actually
[12:33] <pkmpar> I have a weird DMA problem. Hoping someone here can help me out
[12:33] <Howitzer> if they could just make some better emulators :(
[12:33] <pkmpar> anyone?
[12:33] <ompaul> how do I do a screenshot of only an a single application?
[12:33] <nalioth> wc_nix: in your sources.list
[12:34] <Howitzer> i want to play my games agian :x
[12:34] <wc_nix> k
[12:34] <parabolize> ompaul: in gnome?
[12:34] <Howitzer> ompaul, make a regular screenshot and crop it in a image viewer
[12:34] <ompaul> parabolize, yep
[12:34] <zerokills> howitzer: you need Cedega to play games
[12:34] <parabolize> crop with gimp
[12:34] <Miks> could somebody tell me...or somebody knows...where could i find this wallpaper http://www.gnome-look.org/content/pre1/25009-1.png ?
[12:35] <Howitzer> zerokills, cedega doesn't work here for some obscure reason
[12:35] <wc_nix> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/
[12:35] <pkmpar> ompaul: alt+ print screen should do it
[12:35] <nickrud> ompaul, alt-print is supposed to do it, I had to remap
[12:35] <wc_nix> i change that to http://archive.ubuntu.com
[12:35] <wc_nix> ???
[12:35] <Livingstone__> My firefox doenst start (strace log here : http://pastebin.com/299142 ), any idea?
[12:35] <zerokills> howitzer: you mean in Ubuntu?  i have Cedega running on my system
[12:35] <nickrud> wc_nix, that will work
[12:35] <Howitzer> yes
[12:35] <wc_nix> k
[12:35] <Howitzer> i tried it on various games and nothing happens
[12:36] <kvidell> ugh.. general quesiton to anyone who knows: How does one change Font Kerning in The Gimp?
[12:36] <zerokills> howitzer: well, i have it working on my system. did you play around with for a while?
[12:36] <Howitzer> well not long
[12:36] <ompaul> pkmpar, just for laughs gnome-screenshot is dying on alt+printscreen
[12:36] <bigbill52a> had to dump ubuntu...as much as i liked it...the kde desktop and programs like konqueror caused my xserver to crash randomly
[12:37] <nalioth> wc_nix: yes, remove the us. part of it
[12:37] <wc_nix> did that
[12:37] <KAIOUCYTE> i'm having the same problem... bigbill
[12:37] <wc_nix> next step.
[12:37] <Howitzer> it took me 2 hours to realize /program files/ actually was /program\ files/ in Ubuntu >_<
[12:37] <parabolize> kvidell ask in #gimp they would know
[12:37] <nickrud> ompaul, in gconf-editor, apps/panel/global/window_screen_shot_key, map that to something that works
[12:37] <pkmpar> ompaul, thats odd, I just tried it works fine here.  ummm..
[12:37] <bigbill52a> the screen fills with little grey boxes and only pressing the on switch once forces an halt
[12:37] <kvidell> parabolize: Oh.. heh >.> Didn't think to check if they had a room here, Thanks!
[12:37] <kanzen> bob2 are you around?
[12:37] <cut0ff> Hi all
[12:37] <nalioth> wc_nix: update your apt (sudo apt-get update)
[12:37] <ompaul> nickrud, will try
[12:37] <wc_nix> k
[12:38] <pkmpar> hda: DMA timeout error
[12:38] <pkmpar> hda: dma timeout error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
[12:38] <pkmpar> hda: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x61
[12:38] <bigbill52a> switched to debian...but it hangs sometimes at bootup...
[12:38] <nickrud> ompaul, it will work, I used alt-f12
[12:38] <pkmpar> Any ideas bout this anyone. I've got a seriously crippled system with no DMA
[12:38] <wc_nix> btw what's the command to install a .deb file?
[12:38] <ompaul> pkmpar, thanks for that, parabolize Howitzer :)
[12:38] <Howitzer> I have a general question: How come Linux people are so much nicer, polite and serious(but yet funny)?(if you compare to regular windows internet)
[12:38] <wc_nix> this is the first debian-based distro i've used
[12:38] <ompaul> nicklt77, okay I will do that now#] 
[12:39] <KAIOUCYTE> i can not recreate the xorg.config file and therefore i can't boot into the X window.
[12:39] <nickrud> Howitzer, visit #debian :)
[12:39] <Howitzer> ompaul,  could you explain the parabolize?(i'm Dutch you see :D )
[12:39] <nalioth> wc_nix: and the best
[12:39] <bigbill52a> if you use
[12:39] <bigbill52a> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ stable main
[12:39] <wc_nix> well i believe that
[12:39] <Howitzer> ehh
[12:39] <wc_nix> because i've tried 7 other distros on this laptop
[12:39] <wc_nix> and none would work with my screen
[12:39] <Howitzer> are #debian'ers bad people? :x
[12:39] <bigbill52a> you can use most off the multimedia entries from the unofficial guide
[12:39] <wc_nix> Ubuntu is the only one to work with this screen
[12:40] <wc_nix> the only one that i tried**
[12:40] <nalioth> Howitzer: they are grumpy, yes ,but may give you info
[12:40] <nickrud> Howitzer, no, they just expect you to read the fine manual first, so you know what to ask
[12:40] <Howitzer> oh
[12:40] <Howitzer> but they are funny though :D
[12:40] <Howitzer> joking-alike :D
[12:40] <wc_nix> next step?
[12:41] <geargolem> Hoary Synaptic failed to execute child process: gksudo no such file
[12:41] <nickrud> Howitzer, but, if you don't know which manual to read, they flame you
[12:41] <Howitzer> lol
[12:41] <ompaul> okay so I got me a bug
[12:41] <KAIOUCYTE> is there a way to install ubuntu in one partition and the software in  a different partition.  This is so everytime i re-install ubutnu i won't have to install the software all over again.
[12:41] <Howitzer> nice to know :D
[12:41] <cut0ff> anyone know about apt-build??
[12:41] <bigbill52a> hehe...sounds like me...
[12:41] <Howitzer> cut0ff, does it even exist actually? :/
[12:41] <nalioth> wc_nix: what problems are you having exactly with stuff not installing?
[12:42] <wc_nix> it works now
[12:42] <nalioth> cut0ff: apt-build? a little bit
[12:42] <wc_nix> apt-get worked for xmms
[12:42] <nickrud> KAIOUCYTE, not really, an install is an install
[12:42] <geargolem> how to reinstall synaptic?
[12:42] <wc_nix> but for some reason firefox wouldnt install
[12:42] <KAIOUCYTE> :(   ... too bad... i realy liked ubuntu.
[12:42] <wc_nix> another thing is it gives some errors when opening xmms and xmms still opens, are the errors really problematic?
[12:42] <nickrud> KAIOUCYTE, it's the same for any operating system
[12:43] <bigbill52a> kaioucyte..if you dont install ANY kde programs...it wont crash
[12:43] <nickrud> lol
[12:43] <bigbill52a> but i like some the kde programs
[12:43] <ompaul> nickrud, it is still dying
[12:43] <geargolem> is it possible to reinstall Gnome over KDE in Hoary and not lose files?
[12:43] <nickrud> ompaul, I haven't tried remapping in this install, a sec
[12:43] <nalioth> wc_nix: then i recommend you add to your sources.list universe and multiverse http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[12:43] <ompaul> I'll go have a poke around news and stuff and see if there is a known bug out there
[12:43] <KAIOUCYTE> yes...,i like the KDE browser...  but i'll sacrifice it.
[12:44] <wc_nix> what's exact thing to add though?
[12:44] <wc_nix> what's the format?
[12:44] <ompaul> nickrud, it is reasonably fresh here, (one week old)
[12:44] <Pluton2> Ubuntu PPC channels?
[12:44] <nalioth> wc_nix: go to that URL and read it
[12:44] <nickrud> ompaul, I'm messing with breezy at the moment, so ....
[12:44] <nalioth> wc_nix: it goes in your sources.list
[12:44] <wc_nix> k
[12:44] <bigbill52a> this is a problem with both 3.4.0 and 3.4.1 with or without the ati drivers installed
[12:44] <wc_nix> thanks
[12:44] <Howitzer> wiiiiiiiiiiii i'm going to go to school in a linux t-shirt and express my true feelings for Ubuntu <3
[12:44] <nalioth> Pluton2: what did you need re PPC
[12:45] <ompaul> nickrud, my mileage may vary
[12:45] <dizzie> awww :)
[12:45] <kvidell> s 4
[12:45] <bigbill52a> something different between debian and ubuntu...because debian works fine..if you can get it to boot up
[12:45] <Pluton2> I need help setting up my sound. xmms only works with esound.
[12:45] <munki> Howitzer , nice :D~
[12:45] <kvidell> :-\
[12:45] <cut0ff> nalioth   I'm getting an error 'Imposible obtener http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/m/memstat/me mstat_0.4_i386.deb  El tamao difiere '
[12:45] <Howitzer> hehe
[12:45] <Howitzer> i'm not even sure if i want to install windows on this system again :x
[12:45] <Pluton2> nalioth: by some reason alsa neither oss works.
[12:46] <nalioth> cut0ff: i dont understand spanish, but try removing the es. part from the addresses in your sources.list
[12:46] <ompaul> Pluton2, do you have two soound cards on that device?
[12:46] <nalioth> Pluton2: have you been to the wiki?
[12:46] <Howitzer> is Evolution a good mailclient? or should i use another one?
[12:46] <nickrud> ompaul, it's not working here either.
[12:46] <Pluton2> ompaul: NO is a Ibook g3.
[12:47] <nalioth> Howitzer: there are several email clients
[12:47] <ompaul> Pluton2, ahh okay then
[12:47] <Pluton2> nalioth: 6 hours working on it.
[12:47] <nalioth> Howitzer: sylpheed thunderbird mutt pine and more
[12:47] <Howitzer> i'm thinking of using Thunderbird because of the extensions :x
[12:47] <Howitzer> hmm
[12:47] <nickrud> ompaul, when I actually read what gconf-editor said, short description was 'depreciated'
[12:47] <cut0ff> nalioth  thanks at all
[12:47] <Howitzer> i heard a bit of pine, is it good?
[12:48] <ompaul> nickrud, that might explain the lack of a change then :)
[12:48] <nalioth> Pluton2: i've had no trouble with sound here on my G3/600 after followin the wiki
[12:48] <nickrud> lol, it helps to read stuff
[12:48] <nalioth> Howitzer: they are all FREE to try (no price tag)
[12:48] <nalioth> Howitzer: try them all, use what you like
[12:49] <nalioth> Pluton2: did you read this one http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SoundProblemsHoary
[12:49] <nalioth> okay folks, the life of a taxi driver is never dull
[12:49] <nalioth> g2g
[12:49] <nalioth> wc_nix: you have fun, i'll be back
[12:50] <nalioth> wc_nix: got lots more tricks you're gonna need runnin amd64
[12:50] <Pluton2> nalioth: I will try check the wiki again, thaks for the link,
[12:50] <wc_nix> k
[12:50] <wc_nix> i'll leave IRC open so leave message just to let me know when you get back
[12:50] <wc_nix> i'm gonna go eat supper, bbl, thanks again
[12:51] <geargolem> I need help reinstalling Gnome over KDE in Hoary
[12:51] <adrian__> aaaargh
[12:51] <adrian__> wait
[12:51] <adrian__> where is Howitzer?
[12:51] <nickrud> geargolem, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop will get you gnome, properly
[12:51] <geargolem> thanks nickrud
[12:52] <nickrud> geargolem, np, I like easy questions :)
[12:53] <JohnnyQuest> can anyone help me install LAME in ubuntu?
[12:54] <cut0ff> nickrud   better sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:54] <lsuactiafner> apt-get install lame
[12:54] <nickrud> cut0ff, heh, I've been there, and, since I'm polite, I just say that kdeprintfax is a wonderful thing with openoffice
[12:56] <Howitzer> FFS
[12:56] <nickrud> JohnnyQuest, and, if lsuactiafner's advice doesn't work, ask for help with your sources.list
[12:56] <JohnnyQuest> is there a way to check if lame is installed?
[12:56] <Howitzer> my computer shut itself down completely twice
[12:56] <JohnnyQuest> his advice didnt help
[12:56] <Howitzer> JohnnyQuest, search for it
[12:56] <JohnnyQuest> i did /configure and then make and then make installed
[12:56] <KAIOUCYTE> which one is better for a 2GHz laptop....  Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[12:56] <JohnnyQuest> and that all worked
[12:56] <nickrud> JohnnyQuest, ack
[12:57] <JohnnyQuest> but, id ont know where it installed it or anything...
[12:57] <JohnnyQuest> i dont know how any of that works
[12:57] <Howitzer> Oh my god
[12:57] <JohnnyQuest> im new to linux
[12:57] <Howitzer> 1 upgraded, 147 newly installed, 0 to remove and 23 not upgraded.
[12:57] <Howitzer> Need to get 15.4MB/85.2MB of archives.
[12:57] <Howitzer> After unpacking 238MB of additional disk space will be used.
[12:57] <nickrud> JohnnyQuest, I would think that it's in /usr/local/bin
[12:57] <Howitzer> Oo
[12:57] <nickrud> JohnnyQuest, if it is, you should be able to use it just fine
[12:57] <DaSkreech> installing breezy
[12:57] <Howitzer> apt-get can resume anytime?
[12:58] <Howitzer> JohnnyQuest, are you using Gnome?
[12:58] <nickrud> Howitzer, you can shut off your computer, and apt-get will (99.44% of the time) recover just fine
[12:58] <Howitzer> cool
[12:58] <JohnnyQuest> well im not rying to use it, i just need it for installing mythtv
[12:58] <Howitzer> but what isn't cool
[12:58] <Howitzer> is:
[12:58] <JohnnyQuest> i dont know what gnome is...
[12:58] <DaSkreech> mythtv sure is popular
[12:58] <Howitzer> my computer completely shut itself down twice Oo
[12:58] <nickrud> JohnnyQuest, so, does ls /usr/bin/lame show lame?
[12:59] <nickrud> JohnnyQuest, so, does ls /usr/local/bin/lame show lame?  ( heh )
[12:59] <katoc> hi everybody
[12:59] <JohnnyQuest> i dont even know how to go there..
[12:59] <JohnnyQuest> or anything..
[01:00] <Howitzer> okay
[01:00] <Howitzer> ehh
[01:00] <Howitzer> how did you get inhere?
[01:00] <Howitzer> do you use X-Chat now?
[01:00] <JohnnyQuest> i know irc pretty well
[01:00] <JohnnyQuest> no
[01:00] <JohnnyQuest> mirc
[01:00] <hou5ton> JohnnyQuest:  try Linspire
[01:00] <JohnnyQuest> no
[01:00] <JohnnyQuest> ubuntu is what i want after reading about the stuff
[01:00] <Howitzer> nooooooooooooooo
[01:00] <hou5ton> :-)
[01:00] <DaSkreech> JohnnyQuest, What are you asking?
[01:00] <nickrud> JohnnyQuest, then, you need to use what ubuntu offers
[01:01] <Howitzer> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdeutils/kregexp editor_3.4.0-0ubuntu2_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[01:01] <Howitzer> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdeutils/kdeutil s_3.4.0-0ubuntu2_all.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[01:01] <Howitzer> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-mis sing?
[01:01] <Howitzer> all the packages are MD5Sum mismatch
[01:01] <JohnnyQuest> i just want to install mythtv
[01:01] <nickrud> JohnnyQuest, before compiling stuff, ask here if it's available
[01:01] <Howitzer> wth do i need to do?
[01:01] <JohnnyQuest> but before i install mythtv, i need lame
[01:01] <DaSkreech> JohnnyQuest, OK
[01:01] <DaSkreech> apt-gt install lame
[01:01] <JohnnyQuest> didnt work
[01:01] <DaSkreech> apt-get
[01:01] <DaSkreech> What error did you get?
[01:02] <zukalk> maybe he needs to extra repositories? (newb here too)
[01:02] <JohnnyQuest> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
 E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[01:02] <slept>  lame is in multiverse
[01:02] <afroman> hi guys
[01:02] <zukalk> oh, that
[01:02] <DaSkreech> :-)
[01:02] <afroman> I was here a while ago
[01:02] <parabolize> sudo apt-get install lame ;)
[01:02] <zukalk> add 'sudo'
[01:02] <DaSkreech> in front
[01:02] <katoc> someone has done this... i need to add packages to the ubuntu install cd
[01:02] <nickrud> hey, afroman
[01:02] <afroman> I had a prob with my monitor settings
[01:02] <JohnnyQuest> what does sudo do?
[01:02] <JohnnyQuest> thats how i got make install to work
[01:03] <DaSkreech> it makes you act as if you are root
[01:03] <parabolize> super user do = sudo
[01:03] <DaSkreech> for the remainder of the command
[01:03] <JohnnyQuest> i got teh same error
[01:03] <nickrud> afroman, did you find the vertical refresh and horizontal sync for your monitor?
[01:03] <JohnnyQuest> except
[01:03] <slept> katoc, why does it have to be on the install cd  ?
[01:03] <JohnnyQuest> it asked if another process was using it?
[01:03] <afroman> nickrud not really...
[01:03] <DaSkreech> Do you have apt-get running in another window?
[01:03] <nickrud> afroman, what monitor did you have?
[01:04] <nickrud> afroman, brand and model :)
[01:04] <JohnnyQuest> didnt think so
[01:04] <JohnnyQuest> ill close everything
[01:04] <afroman> nickrud I tried xorgconf, but now I have a prob with my mouse
[01:04] <slept> JohnnyQuest, do you have synaptic or the kde package thing running ?
[01:04] <zukalk> JohnnyQuest, usually if asks you that, it's because you have Synaptic running
[01:04] <JohnnyQuest> i have snaptic running
[01:04] <JohnnyQuest> ill close it
[01:04] <nickrud> afroman, hmm, what kind?
[01:04] <DaSkreech> That needs to be closed
[01:04] <afroman> nickrud> I have Compaq Presario V510
[01:05] <spencer_> Package lame is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:05] <spencer_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[01:05] <spencer_> is only available from another source
[01:05] <spencer_> E: Package lame has no installation candidate
[01:05] <katoc> slept, because i want to install the packages since begin
[01:05] <JohnnyQuest> thats the error
[01:06] <DaSkreech> ah
[01:06] <DaSkreech> maybe it's not in your list?
[01:06] <nickrud> afroman, ooh, thats an oldie i think
[01:06] <hans_> I to get the same error (a MD5Sum mismatch)  from http://us.archive.ubuntu.com
[01:06] <DaSkreech> apt-cache search lame
[01:06] <afroman> what are the usual setting for a mouse
[01:06] <Howitzer> hans_,  with what?
[01:06] <Howitzer> Kubuntu as well?
[01:06] <slept> katoc, what packages do you need from beginning on ? you can burn all these on a cd and dpkg -i /cdrom/*.deb
[01:06] <katoc> slept , and because on Pc's i need to instal ubuntu won't have internet
[01:06] <afroman> nickrud yes it is
[01:07] <katoc> i need from begin , GNUstep, projectcenter and gorm
[01:07] <De1> hi ppl
[01:07] <zukalk> hey guys, do you think i should use Firestarter? i'm behind a NAT/Router with only port 80 redirected to my PC (and only for HTTP protocol)
[01:07] <De1> just joining ubuntu
[01:08] <gskillet> I had a wireless connection (PCMCIA Card), and when I removed the card and re-inserted it, Linux has begun giving me the following error and will not let me use the card: eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[01:08] <duende> Help: I'm having a problem with synaptic in ubuntu, it appears that none of my packages will isntall through it. I tried to do a apt-get upgrade through console and i get an error "`Depends' field, reference to `libc6`: version contains ` ' and then i get a seg fault message
[01:08] <JohnnyQuest> told me, pearl enhancement to car error logging facilities
[01:08] <afroman> when I run xorgconfig I get to choose where the mouse is, and where does usualy a PS/2 mouseis
[01:09] <jayeola> gskillet: don't just remove the card....
[01:09] <nickrud> afroman, I cannot find any info on that monitor either
[01:09] <jayeola> what's yr distro?
[01:09] <flodine_> who was helping me with the 1900x1200 resolution
[01:10] <zukalk> does anyone use Firestarter at all?
[01:10] <gskillet> jayeola: it's too late, i pulled out the PCMCIA from the Slot, and then slipped it back in to get a number off of it, now i cant use it anymore without reformatting my linux
[01:10] <jayeola> sheesh "what's yr distro" did i even ask that question? shoot me!
[01:10] <Howitzer> what is Firestarter?
[01:10] <Efwis> <--uses firestarter
[01:10] <VRH> is a firewall
[01:10] <afroman> nickrud, when I run xorgconfig I get to choose where the mouse is, and where does usualy a PS/2 mouseis
[01:10] <nickrud> afroman, I suggest you use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , it's a bit smarter that X's built in configurator
[01:10] <Howitzer> firewall in Linux? Oo
[01:11] <VRH> it is a iptables ghraphic interface
[01:11] <jayeola> gskillet: before you remove it... cardctl remove
[01:11] <afroman> nickrud, if I do that then something goes wrong and I still have the same prob
[01:11] <gskillet> jayeola: i have tried everything suggested: re-installing orinoco drivers - my linux still refuses to recognize that the piece of hardware even exists, doesnt show up in the hardware list or anything
[01:11] <jayeola> ^^
[01:11] <parabolize> How stupid would it be to install libc6-2.3.5 in Hoary? I need the 7664 nvidia drivers for a GF6200.
[01:11] <nickrud> afroman, don't choose the mouse, let the config program try it's own probing. It almost always works
[01:11] <jayeola> try `man -k pcmcia`
[01:11] <gskillet> ok
[01:12] <zukalk> Efwis - i only have HTTP through port 80 redirected to my pc. should i use firestarter?
[01:12] <nickrud> afroman, note almost
[01:12] <Howitzer> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdeutils/kregexp editor_3.4.0-0ubuntu2_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[01:12] <gskillet> jayeola it gives me a nice list of tools, will any of these help me?
[01:12] <Howitzer> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdeutils/kdeutil s_3.4.0-0ubuntu2_all.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[01:12] <Howitzer> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-mis
[01:12] <Howitzer> what cn i do gainst it?
[01:12] <Efwis> zukalk, its not really a common port to worry about, but there are some malicious bots out there that scan all ports
[01:12] <gm78> parabolize: why would u need to install that?
[01:12] <slept> katoc, with dpkg-scanpackages you can generate a packages.list , look at the man page with that you should be abled to generate cd's which you can add to your sources.list with apt-cdrom
[01:12] <gm78> im running the 7664 drivers and i never did that
[01:13] <nickrud> Howitzer, us.archive.ubuntu.com is down, try changing that to archive.ubuntu.com for now
[01:13] <Howitzer> how? :x
[01:13] <flodine_> a guys why does ubuntu 1900x1200 look so fuzzy
[01:13] <concept10> does ubuntu work with old woody .debs?
[01:13] <nickrud> concept10, lol
[01:14] <Efwis> zukalk, i would run it, I have had 8 scans in the last 2 hours while its up, and they were malicious hits
[01:14] <parabolize> gm78: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=51393&page=3
[01:14] <zukalk> Efwis, and are you behind somekinda NAT/router?
[01:14] <bigbill52a> those people over in debian are very quiet....
[01:14] <nickrud> concept10, ubuntu works with ubuntu debs. Maybe etch debs will work someday.
[01:14] <Efwis> nope, i don't use a router of any kind
[01:15] <Efwis> I just ahve a direct connect to my dsl line
[01:15] <Efwis> err have
[01:15] <gm78> parabolize : how are you trying to install the drivers? from nvidia's website or from a deb?
[01:15] <nickrud> nickrud <--- runs a firewall, even though all services listen only to localhost
[01:15] <parabolize> website
[01:15] <nickrud> I'm paranoid
[01:15] <zukalk> Efwis, ok thanks, i'll give it a go
[01:15] <parabolize> there is a 7664 deb?
[01:15] <darGor> Hello. i've a .rar file. how to unrar it ?
[01:15] <Efwis> its a good thing to have, and it doesn't use a lot of resources
[01:15] <katoc> 10x slept
[01:15] <nickrud> darGor, you need rar-unfree
[01:15] <afroman> nickrud, I did let it do it and then it suggested that     Identifier  "Mouse1"
[01:15] <afroman>     Driver      "mouse"
[01:15] <afroman>     Option "Protocol"    "PS/2"
[01:15] <afroman>     Option "Device"      "/dev/tty00"
[01:16] <gm78> parabolize : oh, i just thought there might be cause u r having problems i never had. have u tried to install the driver already? i never touched libc
[01:16] <darGor> nickrud, it's a program?
[01:16] <nickrud> afroman, you have a serial mouse?
[01:16] <zukalk> Efwis, as opposed to windoze firewalls ;)
[01:16] <gm78> parabolize : and it is running great for me
[01:16] <katoc> im gonna chek it... i'll be back
[01:16] <Efwis> yeah,
[01:16] <parabolize> gm78: doom3 and glxgears run?
[01:16] <nickrud> hm, that's not a very bright question
[01:16] <Efwis> sukalk, you really dont' need an AV on here like winblows, but it is suggested to use a firewall regardless
[01:16] <afroman> nickrud, sorry that was after my changes
[01:17] <gm78> parabolize : i dont do a lot of "3D" things so im not sure, but is 1300 FPS good?
[01:17] <gskillet> jayeola: you still there?
[01:17] <gm78> for a GeForce FX 5200?
[01:17] <parabolize> ok
[01:17] <nickrud> afroman, personally, I'd sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/Xorg.conf.not-working, then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and hit enter every chance I got
[01:18] <nickrud> afroman, since I don't know the hardware
[01:18] <parabolize> gm78 I could not get doom3 to run with the new driver.
[01:18] <JDahl> gm78, if that's with tiny glxgears window, then I dont think that's particularly impressing
[01:18] <slept> afroman, do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , the preselections should be right
[01:18] <zukalk> Efwis, but i've heard there *are* linux AV. who uses them? companies?
[01:18] <gm78> JDahl : im running a bunch of other stuff too....i could close everything and try. im playing a video at the same time
[01:18] <Efwis> yes, I have one too, but I do malware cleaning for windows users and I get rootkits and the like sent to me via email
[01:19] <JDahl> gm78, impressive I mean
[01:19] <afroman> nickrud, slept, I did tried that and it didn't work
[01:19] <gm78> parabolize : try using one driver version back, nvidia will still have it in their archives
[01:19] <slept> zukalk, I use av  - it's on a server to make sure windows shit doesn't go to other machines over samba .
[01:19] <zukalk> Efwis - rootkits?
[01:19] <afroman> nickrud, slept, the same problem remains
[01:20] <darGor> nickrud, it's a program? i cant get it with apt
[01:20] <parabolize> gm78 yes but 7174 won't run GF6200
[01:20] <zukalk> slept - oh i see
[01:20] <gm78> parabolize : what should my FPS be sitting at, do u know?
[01:20] <Efwis> sukalk, rootkits are viruses and the like that attack Windows at their root level, uses a similar setup to our sudo
[01:20] <gm78> parabolize : i386 or x86_64?
[01:20] <nickrud> afroman, I think we've reached my level of competency, without my sitting at your machine
[01:20] <JDahl> gm78, I think I got 2000 fps with the same test on an IBM thinkpad/Radeon 9000 Mobile
[01:20] <nickrud> darGor, you were looking for lame?
[01:20] <parabolize> gm78 x86 k7 kernel
[01:21] <darGor> nickrud, looking to unrar a .rar
[01:21] <parabolize> not 64bit
[01:21] <gm78> JDahl : thats very odd then if that is not impressive. America's Army works awesome for me
[01:21] <nickrud> darGor, sorry, but actually, it's the same problem, I think :)
[01:21] <gm78> parabolize : what did the drivers do when u tried to install them?
[01:21] <Howitzer> WOOHOO
[01:21] <gm78> parabolize : did x not start or something?
[01:21] <nickrud> darGor, unrar-nonfree is in the multiverse section, you need to enable it
[01:22] <Howitzer> i finally got myself a free IMAP mail adress  \ o /
[01:22] <slept> afroman, move your old config to some other place , do the md5sum thing described at the beginning of xorg.conf and then restart configureing
[01:22] <JDahl> gm78, as you pointed out yourself, you're running all kinds of other stuff in the background (which I doubt you do when you're playing 3D games)
[01:22] <parabolize> gm78 the driver installs nice and happy. doom3 is what dosn't work. stops with opengl errors.
[01:22] <nickrud> darGor, I would suggest replacing your /etc/sources.list with http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ExampleConffiles
[01:22] <gm78> JDahl : I closed everything but this window (Chatzilla) and I only got 100 FPS more (about 1450)
[01:22] <darGor> nickrud, i searched. there's two prgoramas, unrar-nonfree and unrar. unrar-nonfree is shareware, right?
[01:23] <nickrud> darGor, no, it's a
[01:23] <gm78> parabolize : im not entirely sure then. america's army is the extent of my pc gaming
[01:23] <gm78> parabolize : sorry man, thought i could help
[01:23] <Pluton2> help with ibook G3 sound; xmms work with libesdout.so but gstreamer fail in alsa and oss "Failed to construct test pipeline for 'ALSA - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture'"
[01:23] <nickrud> darGor, stuff in multiverse have licensing or patent problems, but they will cost you nothing to use
[01:23] <jd_> whats up guys
[01:23] <xbalanque> hi all! I've just installed Ubuntu 5.04 and after finishing installation, I can't make it recognize the cd device. "ide-cd" module is there, everything seems all right, but the "hdc" doesn't appear, not in /dev not in /proc/ide. I just can't find out what is missing. Any ideas that I should try ? -- Strangely enough, if I boot the live ubuntu it works ...
[01:23] <gm78> JDahl : it is an older card tho
[01:23] <darGor> aah ok nickrud thanks
[01:23] <nickrud> darGor, it's a philosophical difference
[01:24] <zukalk> i was trying Nessus ( http://ubuntuguide.org/#nessus ) and it said 'nessusd returned an empty report'. is this good?
[01:24] <jd_> I just got ubuntu its great so far I hate microsoft
[01:24] <Efwis> yep thats good
[01:25] <zukalk> i'll try without the FW now
[01:25] <zukalk> same result :)
[01:25] <flodine_> can someone tell me why after installing nvidia driver ubuntu get a black screen
[01:25] <nern> hey
[01:26] <nern> my cd writer only writes at about 16x in ubuntu but full speed in windows is there something i can do to fix this
[01:26] <gm78> flodine_ : post ur /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[01:26] <xbalanque> flodine, have you checked the logs: /var/log/XOrg.log, or somthing like this
[01:26] <gm78> flodine_ : in pastebin please :P
[01:26] <zukalk> flodine_ i have the same prob with my ATI with all drivers, except for vesa of course.
[01:26] <nern> my cd writer only writes at about 16x in ubuntu but full speed in windows is there something i can do to fix this
[01:26] <JohnnyQuest> anyone know how to install xmltv into unbuntu?
[01:27] <slept> flodine, zukalk, did you install the resticted moules or just replace the xorg.conf entries ?
[01:27] <zukalk> flodine_ so far the only thing that worked for me was adding "HorizSync 28-61" and "VertRefresh 60" in Section Monitor of my xorg.conf
[01:28] <zukalk> slept, yes, and 3D accel works fine with ati, radeon and fglrx
[01:28] <xbalanque> flodine, http://pastebin.com/299155
[01:28] <zukalk> slept, but i had to add the horizsync and vertfresh first
[01:28] <nern> my cd writer only writes at about 16x in ubuntu but full speed in windows is there something i can do to fix this
[01:29] <flodine_> zukalk well can you use the nvidia drivers now
[01:29] <bigbill52a> with the sources.list from unofficial guide the restricted modules seem to be xfree drivers...fglrx creates an xfree.conf
[01:29] <zukalk> flodine_ ati, in my case ;) but i prefer the fglrx
[01:29] <nickrud> bigbill52a, if I may, ubuntuguide sources suck
[01:30] <bigbill52a> fglrxconf creates an xfree.conf file rather than an xorg.conf
[01:30] <flodine_> zukalk is there a way to fix the black screen
[01:31] <zukalk> like i said, in my case it worked when i added "  HorizSync 28-61  " and   "VertRefresh  60" in Section "Monitor" in my xorg.conf
[01:31] <bigbill52a> i just downloaded the ati driver and learned how to install it
[01:31] <zukalk> i only did it cause someone in a forum did it and it worked
[01:31] <Fanskapet> have anyone succeded in compiling CUBE for 64bit ubuntu?
[01:31] <zukalk> are using 'nv' or 'nvidia' drivers?
[01:32] <flodine_> nv
[01:32] <bigbill52a> debian is nice but hangs at boot up...randomly or i wouldnt be on here
[01:32] <zukalk> flodine_ i'm not familiar with nVidia, but have you tried both?
[01:33] <flodine_> zukalk im on a 24 inch 1900x1200
[01:33] <nickrud> zukalk, bigbill52a flodine the offical answer (as given by people who should know) is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto, but, since I have neither an ati or nvidia, ymmv
[01:33] <flodine_> wide making me sick
[01:33] <bigbill52a> ubuntu is nice but kde crashes the xserver
[01:33] <zukalk> wow, 24''? 1900x1200 ?
[01:33] <gm78> back
[01:34] <zukalk> nickrud, yeah, i've followed those, but the problem was actually monitor-related, the rest was fine
[01:34] <slept> flodine, read the log file in /var/log/Xorg.log, you have to find the first error then you will know more about your problem
[01:34] <gm78> I just installed the old 7174 nvidia drivers and i gained about 300 FPS
[01:34] <flodine_> zukalk yeah got it looking great but when i install nvidia drivers my system screen goes black
[01:34] <nickrud> zukalk, then I'll shut up :)
[01:34] <gskillet> Help Requested: Problem with Wireless PCMCIA Card - Card worked fine initially, problem started after removing the card and then re-inserting it into the PCMCIA slot - Now Ubuntu will not use the card and refers to it as: No device found for eth1.  The last time I had this problem I was forced to re-install Ubuntu, can someone help me figure out what to do?  (So far I have tried re-inserting Orinoco drivers and re-installing PCMCIA packages),
[01:34] <gskillet>  my card is 802.11b Netgear Wireless 16bit PCMCIA MA401
[01:35] <flodine_> thxs slept
[01:35] <parabolize> gm78: lol
[01:36] <gm78> parabolize : lol, yeah, i know. ill just wait for their next driver release, nvidia is good about fixing problems quickly, even if they just affect one distro
[01:37] <parabolize> gm78 the libc6 dependency effects everybody I can think of but FC3 and gentoo...
[01:37] <gm78> parabolize : oh, even better than. nvidia will fix it even quicker then probably
[01:38] <parabolize> but can I wait... NO! :)
[01:39] <clem_> hi there
[01:39] <zukalk> hey
[01:39] <nickrud> hi, clem
[01:40] <gm78> parabolize : have u googled for any nvidia debs for ubuntu?
[01:40] <clem_> I just installed a fresh 5.0.4, the system freezes while using evolution
[01:40] <clem_> do you think this could be a graphics card problem ?
[01:40] <parabolize> gm78 not really
[01:41] <nickrud> clem_, I use evolution all the time, it never freezes any other time?
[01:41] <clem_> twice in 5 minutes
[01:42] <clem_> nickrud, it could be my X86 conf... I remember experiencing this problem with other distros
[01:43] <nickrud> clem_, I would think it's almost anything but evolution, but ...
[01:43] <zukalk> i read this in some article: Another Note: Ubuntu installs with a default kernel set for i386 processors. Because I use an i686 kernel, I found upgrading also increased my system performance significantly. To do this, you can use Synaptic to search for linux-image-2.6.10-5-k7 if you use AMD or linux-image-2.6.10-5-686 for Pentium Pro/Celeron/Pentium II/Pentium III/Pentium IV.
[01:43] <nickrud> zukalk, true
[01:43] <zukalk> and i was thinking of getting the 686 linux image
[01:43] <HillTop> Hi folks, I just installed Hoary, had Warty earlier. Made updates with gnome-app-install. How do I get from Firefox 1.0.2 to 1.0.4 so I can use the addons? Thanks
[01:44] <zukalk> is there anything special i have to do, beside using Synaptic? (sounds too easy)
[01:44] <nickrud> zukalk, no, and, while you're at it, change to libc6-i686
[01:44] <piranha> hola
[01:44] <zukalk> and what'll happen on reboot?
[01:44] <clem_> ok I'll try taking dri and glx out... thanks guys
[01:45] <nickrud> zukalk, grub had no problem changing over to the 686 kernel for me
[01:45] <philwozza> are the standard ubuntu kernels patched against exec shield?
[01:45] <Efwis> I personally dropped evolution, to me its a piece of crap, plus it wouldn't get all my email
[01:46] <zukalk> nickrud -- so is it really as simple as apt-getting linux-image-2.6.10-5-686 and libc6-i686 ?
[01:46] <wc_nix> back
[01:46] <nickrud> I use imap on my localhost, so I'm pretty much client agnostic these days :)
[01:46] <nickrud> zukalk, yes, that simple.
[01:46] <bronson_> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gnet/libgnet2.0-0_2.0.4-1_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[01:46] <zukalk> nickrud -- great, i'll try it later then ;)
[01:47] <nickrud> bronson, the us archive is bad, you need to switch to another
[01:47] <bronson_> nickrud: thanks.
[01:47] <Efwis> your lucky then nickrud
[01:47] <zukalk> about evolution: i found that it never caught my daily dose of viagra/cialis/whatever spam, so i switched to mozilla
[01:47] <Efwis> lol
[01:47] <nickrud> Efwis, no, I do it on my local machine
[01:48] <Efwis> ahh
[01:48] <nickrud> Efwis, I can read mail with kmail, evolution, whatever, and the store stays consistent
[01:49] <Efwis> nice, i wouldn't have the foggiest idea how to set that up lol, still somewhat a noob to linux here
[01:49] <nickrud> Efwis, look at dovecot, it's in the repositories, and should just drop right in
[01:49] <pops> yo
[01:49] <pops> hows every 1
[01:50] <Efwis> hmm, through synaptic?
[01:50] <nickrud> Efwis, you will need to read up on fetchmail (gets your pop3 mail and hands it to postfix), and procmail (puts the mail into folders on your machine)
[01:50] <Efwis> thanks I will
[01:50] <geetergod> Can someone help me with my sound? its pretty complicated
[01:51] <whimsey> does ubuntu have a replacement for apt-file?
[01:52] <geetergod> I have no sound, somethings up with the way i dont have a soundcard enabled or something
[01:52] <nickrud> whimsey, I've heard some people say that apt-file works under ubuntu, but I haven't tested it
[01:53] <Pluton2> sound in ubuntu ppc; ibook G3. default source = Failed to construct test pipeline for 'OSS - Open Sound System'
[01:53] <lickety> hey guys I've got a pretty easy question, the latest apt repository doesn't seem to have a listing for openssl-dev, not even in universe, the standard openssl package doesn't have the dev files included, anyone know what's going on with that?
[01:54] <lickety> pluton2, you probably need either the gstreamer-esd or gstreamer-oss plugin
[01:55] <nickrud> lickety, I think what you want is libssl-dev
[01:55] <Efwis> nickrud, is dovecot better then tbird, and will it connect to firefox properly for links??
[01:55] <Pluton2> lickety: let see.
[01:55] <lickety> I tried that but it's not the same version as openssl
[01:56] <nickrud> Efwis, dovecot creates an imap server. tbird will read from that imap server, so, no problem
[01:57] <Efwis> hmmm, i will look into that a little deeper
[01:57] <learning> hi Milos_85 is running an onjoin guys not sure if you are aware of that or not
[01:58] <nickrud> Efwis, take a look at tbird's account setup, I'm sure there's an option for reading from imap, as an alternative to pop. That's what you point tbird to
[01:58] <geetergod> Can someone help me with my sound?
[01:58] <Pluton2> lickety: yes both are installed.
[01:58] <whimsey> learning: that took care of that ;)
[01:58] <learning> in any case, what are the best options if you will for hdparm cause for some reason my system seems to be laggin lately
[01:58] <Efwis> yeah, there is that in tbird, I've never used IMAP before so it will be soemthign new lol
[01:59] <lickety> Pluton2, gimme a second
[02:00] <nickrud> Efwis, I switch to a local imap server because I like trying new software, I just got tired of exporting a bunch of folders, just to i could import to another client. Once it's set up, you'll never go back
[02:01] <zukalk> brb -- i hope (nickrud, going to try to switch to 686, it'd better work ;) !)
[02:01] <Efwis> i'll give it a try
[02:01] <nickrud> zukalk, ymmv ;P
[02:01] <zukalk> :P
[02:01] <nickrud> zukalk, this is what debian is good at
[02:01] <geetergod> Can someone help me with my sound?
[02:02] <lickety> geetergod are you running esd?
[02:02] <geetergod> i cant
[02:02] <lickety> ok, so what sound system are you using oss or alsa?
[02:02] <geetergod> alsa
[02:03] <geetergod> lickety, believe me, ive had people try 100 things
[02:03] <lickety> have you installed alsa-utils?
[02:03] <geetergod> lickety, its something about the new card i put in last night, even though it worked for a while
[02:03] <geetergod> lickety, no i havnt, sudo apt-get install alsa-utils?
[02:03] <lickety> yeah that will work
[02:04] <lickety> once installed, there's a binary called alsaconf
[02:04] <Efwis> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/dovecot/dovecot-pop3d_0.99.13-3_i386.deb
[02:04] <Efwis>   MD5Sum mismatch
[02:04] <geetergod> lickety, says i have the latest version
[02:04] <lickety> ok
[02:04] <geetergod> lickety, where do i get to alsaconf?
[02:05] <lickety> one sec
[02:05] <geetergod> k
[02:05] <zth__> man! my firefox keeps crasching all the time!
[02:06] <pepsi> Efwis, change your repositories to http://archive.ubuntu.com/
[02:06] <pepsi> ie, drop the 'us.'
[02:07] <Efwis> ok
[02:07] <joeinspirit> Question: anyone know a good guide to installing mythtv on ubuntu... a guide fo stupid people that need step by steps?
[02:07] <niran> i'm trying to set up mod_rewrite on apache2
[02:08] <niran> and i have these lines in my httpd.conf
[02:08] <frankie> anyone able to set up an Iomega USB CDR/RW with Ubuntu?
[02:08] <niran> RewriteLog "/var/log/apache2/rewrite.log"
[02:08] <niran> RewriteEngine on
[02:08] <niran> RewriteRule ^/blog?(.*)$ /cgi-bin/pyblosxom.cgi$1 [last] 
[02:08] <niran> but... it's not working
[02:08] <niran> any ideas?
[02:10] <geetergod> lickety, i didnt scare you away did i? :)
[02:10] <ilba7r> has the repos changed i always have msum error while installing packages
[02:10] <TylerEaves> Is there a way to install without downloading the full 600MB iso?
[02:11] <frankie> my usb cdrom won't work...  can anyone fix it?
[02:11] <TylerEaves> Like equivland to doing a network debian install?
[02:12] <zukalk> hi again
[02:12] <geargolem> Hi
[02:13] <geargolem> tips for getting nvidia geforce graphics card to work on Hoary?
[02:13] <zukalk> nickrud - 686 is working fine, i just got back to 386 to get ndiswrapper woking on 686
[02:14] <geetergod> Can anyone help me with my sound? or lack of?
[02:15] <geargolem> geetergod, rmb on the sound icon and set the preferences to alsa
[02:15] <nickrud> zukalk, great
[02:15] <geetergod> geargolem,rmb?
[02:15] <geargolem> right mouse button geetergod
[02:16] <zth__> how do i set SDL to use alsa? and when i use aoss on a application it gets really crappy quality
[02:16] <nickrud> zukalk, you missed my last comment before you left, 'this is what debian is good at :)
[02:16] <geetergod> geargolem, theres no sound icon on my taskbar if thats you mean
[02:16] <Efwis> geetergod, are you using gnome or KDE?
[02:16] <geetergod> gnome
[02:16] <zukalk> nickrud, no doubt about that ;)
[02:17] <Efwis> geetergod, try here http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly
[02:17] <black13> when/were is the TERM variable set during bootup
[02:17] <geetergod> Efwis, ive been through this
[02:18] <Efwis> hmmm
[02:18] <ilba7r> i am trying to install libcairo1_0.3.0-1_i386.deb but getting   MD5Sum mismatch is ther is something wrong with the repos?
[02:18] <nickrud> geetergod, I've kinda been watching for a while.
[02:19] <geetergod> nickrud, yah ive had this problem since last night, its amazing how i miss sound :(
[02:19] <nickrud> geetergod, I'd remove any asound conf files in etc and home, look for any dmix stuff you've done and remove it, and remove your old card
[02:19] <Dilkes> nickrud Hey! I got the lucent winmodem working in Ubuntu Hoary. Thanks
[02:19] <geetergod> nickrud, its weird that it worked for a while till i tried gettin my surround sound to work
[02:20] <nickrud> geetergod, look for info on the chipset that's printed on the biggest chip on your card
[02:20] <nickrud> geetergod, yeah, I saw that :)
[02:20] <nickrud> geetergod, try to start as close to scratch as you can.
[02:21] <nickrud> geetergod, and, it you get sound working at all, alsamixer has the controls for your surround sound
[02:21] <Efwis> still can't get dovecot
[02:22] <black13> bpuccio, i use to know some puccio's
[02:22] <Stew2> nickrud Can I get pon to autodial on demand?
[02:22] <nickrud> Efwis, it's in main, it should be right there
[02:22] <geetergod> nickrud, what if it looks like the soundcard is attatched to something that doesnt look like it should come out?
[02:22] <zth__> how do i set SDL to use alsa? and when i use aoss on a application it gets really crappy quality :(
[02:22] <nickrud> Stew2, I've never used dial on demand, sorry :)
[02:22] <Efwis> the pop3 isn't downloading, getting a midsum5 error
[02:22] <nickrud> Efwis, us.archive?
[02:23] <Efwis> yes
[02:23] <Efwis> and I even removed the us. and still no go
[02:23] <nickrud> geetergod, get your system as close to scratch as you can, then you can start over :)
[02:23] <nickrud> Efwis, archive.ubuntu.com has been working for me
[02:23] <geetergod> ook if u say so :)
[02:24] <nickrud> geetergod, well, I've seen a lot of advice given you, some conflicting, and, to be blunt, your sound system is screwed
[02:24] <Efwis> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/dovecot/dovecot-pop3d_0.99.13-3_i386.deb
[02:24] <Efwis>  MD5Sum mismatch
[02:24] <dsl_> how do i unzip via terminal
[02:24] <zth__> how do i enable the zoom thingy in mplayer? to make the fullscreen really fullscreen
[02:24] <Efwis> I get that on both download attempts
[02:24] <quam> Efwis: change the repsitory to archive.ubuntu.com, not us.archive.ubuntu.com
[02:24] <nickrud> Efwis, you still have us archives, you need to apt-get update to have apt read your sources.list again
[02:24] <quam> the us archives are screwed right now
[02:25] <cut0ff> dsl_  sudo unzip e file.zip
[02:25] <LinuxJones> zth__, I think it's mplayer -f.
[02:25] <synd-> cut0ff: thx
[02:25] <Efwis> i did update my repositories, its says the same thing even on archive.ubuntu.com
[02:25] <quam> reload
[02:25] <nickrud> Efwis, you use synaptic?
[02:25] <Efwis> I just did a copy and paste here so you got the message I get, its the same message minus the US.
[02:25] <Efwis> yep
[02:26] <Stew2> nickrud,  either you or someone else mentioned running the update manager in ubuntu after getting the modem to work
[02:26] <quam> click reload
[02:26] <juan_> how can i compare two folders for content? md5sum only seems to work with blockdevices and images?
[02:26] <quam> it should update that stuff and get rid of the errors
[02:26] <zth__> LinuxJones, there's some line I can add in the ~.mplayer/config file, something with zoom
[02:26] <nickrud> Stew2, yeah, that was me, but, in retrospect, it was not necessary.
[02:26] <Efwis> I even ran a second apt-get update just to make sure
[02:26] <LinuxJones> zth__, It's been so long since I used mplayer I can't remember dude. Have you checked the man page :)
[02:27] <nickrud> Stew2, apt can handle the one package from restricted you installed by hand
[02:27] <zth__> found it, it was "zoom = yes"
[02:27] <zth__> :)
[02:27] <zth__> thx anyway
[02:27] <nickrud> Efwis, could you put your sources.list on pastebin.com so I can see them?
[02:27] <Efwis> ok
[02:27] <Efwis> one sec
[02:27] <Stew2> nickrud, It says I have a broken package. It's the linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-386_2.6.10.5-1_i386.deb one I downloaded from the windows partition and installed with 'dpkg -i'
[02:28] <quam> missing some dependencies probably
[02:28] <nickrud> Stew2, sudo apt-get -f install
[02:29] <LinuxJones> zth__, :)
[02:29] <Stew2> nickrud No. It keeps saying, whether it's symantic or apt, that it wants to remove the kernel package I downloaded to add LT WINMODEM support.
[02:29] <dennis_> guys, any advice what program is the best for burning CDs/DVDs on ubuntu?
[02:29] <Stew2> nickrud I don't want to remove the package, it'll remove support for the winmodem, right?
[02:30] <nickrud> Stew2, hm
[02:30] <LinuxJones> juan_, mgdiff or xdiff
[02:30] <LinuxJones> dennis_, I like graveman
[02:30] <juan_> LinuxJones, THANKS
[02:30] <LinuxJones> juan_, ;)
[02:30] <Efwis> nickrud, http://pastebin.com/299180
[02:30] <nickrud> Stew2, gimme a sec to think it through, see what i've missed
[02:30] <Stew2> nickrud : K
[02:31] <HillTop>  I just installed Hoary, had Warty earlier. Made updates with gnome-app-install. How do I get from Firefox 1.0.2 to 1.0.4 so I can use extensions and themes? Thanks
[02:31] <Efwis> havoc, i think I see my problem, I didnt' get them all
[02:31] <nickrud> Efwis, yeah, that's it
[02:31] <duende> Does ubuntu kernels come without bttv support by default?  I'm trying to compile lirc, but it seems to be missing it.  i'm using 2.6.10-5-k7 with image/headers installed
[02:31] <dennis_> LinuxJones, can it burn ISO images?
[02:32] <LinuxJones> dennis_, of course
[02:32] <dennis_> thx
[02:32] <LinuxJones> :)
[02:32] <nickrud> Stew2, you now have you winmodem working, right?
[02:33] <LinuxJones> dennis_, but gnome can do that by simply right clicking the .iso file and burn from there.
[02:33] <dennis_> so graveman is not necessary?
[02:34] <nickrud> Stew2, because, there's two ways to go from here, and if you have modem access, it will be pretty straightforward
[02:34] <LinuxJones> dennis_, not for burning a .iso file no
[02:34] <dennis_> excellent
[02:34] <dennis_> thx
[02:34] <LinuxJones> np
[02:34] <Stew2> nickrud yeah. Basically I booted windows, wrote down the instructions on how to mount the drive-d fat32 partition, downloaded the .deb restricted kernel modules, rebooted into linux, and ran 'dpkg -i linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-386_2.6.10.5-1_i386.deb'
[02:35] <nickrud> Stew2, and, you were able to get your modem working?
[02:36] <fishie> checking for gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0... Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[02:36] <fishie> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc'
[02:36] <fishie> to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
[02:36] <fishie> No package 'gtk+-2.0' found
[02:36] <fishie> how do i do that?
[02:36] <jaysinn> when attempting to install kubuntu I get a message saying unable to fetch all archives, any ideas
[02:37] <nickrud> Stew2, that answer is extremely relevant to any solution I have :)
[02:37] <LinuxJones> jaysinn, what file are you trying to install ?
[02:37] <jaysinn> kubuntu-desktop
[02:38] <Efwis> nickrud, updateing now, getting ready to try again. after I get these, should I revert the sources.list back the way it was?
[02:38] <Stew2> nickrud Oh, I'm sorry. I was adjusting the colors for my eyes on xchat.
[02:38] <nickrud> Efwis, no, not until you hear that that repository is back up
[02:38] <Stew2> nickrud, Yes, I got the modem working. I'm running ubuntu hoary now through the lucent winmodem dialup connection.
[02:38] <nickrud> Stew2, then, great.
[02:39] <Efwis> oh so that repository is down, didnt' know htat
[02:39] <nickrud> Stew2, let synaptic remove that package. The kernel module is loaded, and will not disappear.
[02:39] <nickrud> then, use synaptic to reinstall, and all should be good
[02:40] <LinuxJones> jaysinn, can you post your /etc/apt/sources.list to www.pastebin.ca then post the link it spits out here ?
[02:40] <jaysinn> sure
[02:42] <carlosdelriomore> hello all
[02:42] <LinuxJones> carlosdelriomore, hiya
[02:42] <carlosdelriomore> is HT technology a good thing? it seems as if it is like two CPUs? just asking since i want to get an HT laptop, but is it worth it? is it supported by linux?
[02:43] <Thorrn4> hello all
[02:43] <carlosdelriomore> LinuxJones: hello to you too~
[02:43] <odie5533> How do you get a USB printer working?
[02:43] <jaysinn> LinuxJones, http://pastebin.ca/13990
[02:43] <LinuxJones> carlosdelriomore, afaik it works ok you will need to install the smp kernel once you get Ubuntu installed tho.
[02:43] <Efwis> finally isntalling now
[02:43] <Stew2> nickrud I uncommented all the repositories in sources.list, and I got the following error when starting symantic http://pastebin.com/299186
[02:44] <Stew2> synaptic I meant
[02:44] <carlosdelriomore> LinuxJones: so is it faster? or is it just intel hype?
[02:44] <jaysinn> LinuxJones, sorry i will post the apt source now
[02:44] <LinuxJones> jaysinn, that crappy us.ubuntu mirror is out most of the time
[02:45] <jaysinn> ok thanks i try later
[02:45] <LinuxJones> jaysinn, just edit that file and get rid of the us. part of all your lines in the apt/sources.list file
[02:45] <jaysinn> LinuxJones, here is the source list http://pastebin.ca/13991
[02:45] <stuNNed> carlosdelriomore: have ht cpu here, would prefer athlon
[02:45] <Efwis> nickrud, what do I need to do next, its installed
[02:45] <nickrud> Stew2, you need to reload synaptics understanding of your sources.list, I think, the reload button
[02:46] <carlosdelriomore> stuNNed: your experience says its more hype than anything then?
[02:46] <stuNNed> carlosdelriomore: yes
[02:46] <carlosdelriomore> stuNNed: i see... thanks
[02:46] <stuNNed> carlosdelriomore: for gaming it's terrible imho
[02:47] <odie5533> How do I use my scanner?
[02:47] <Stew2> nickrud okay, it's downloading. thanks
[02:47] <LinuxJones> jaysinn, here is my sources.list file >> http://pastebin.ca/13992
[02:48] <nickrud> Stew2, I'm not sure why it said the package was broken, but, boy am I glad that worked overall :)
[02:48] <LinuxJones> jaysinn, comment out/replace your with mine. then apt-get update && apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:48] <LinuxJones> yours*
[02:48] <nickrud> Efwis, if you'll give me some time, I'll give you some howto's to read
[02:49] <Efwis> np, I can wait
[02:49] <jaysinn> thanks I will try
[02:49] <nickrud> Efwis, but, the thrust will be you will use fetchmail to get the mail off your pop server
[02:50] <Stew2> nickrud, I can remember trying to load ltwinmodem support in fc3 and not getting it at all. the ubuntu guide was fairly easy. My biggest mistake was using ttLMT0 instead of ttLTM0. I think it's still too complicated for tired and vision impared people...
[02:50] <pepsi> Stew2, http://www.xchat.org/files/themes/blacktheme.zip
[02:50] <magoo> hi! where can i find the mplayerplug-in for ubuntu? can't find it in synaptic. this is my first time using ubuntu btw.
[02:50] <Efwis> ok
[02:50] <kanzen> I'll get this box stable yet :)  I was in here asking questions earlier when it crashed.
[02:50] <nickrud> Stew2, if you knew how many times I've requested new glasses on this list ....
[02:50] <LinuxJones> magoo, www.ubuntuguide.org
[02:50] <kanzen> I'm a little confused on something... do evms and mdadm control the same devices?
[02:51] <magoo> LinuxJones: thank you
[02:51] <LinuxJones> magoo, lots of great stuff there have fun :)
[02:51] <nickrud> Efwis, then, you will use a configuration in your home directory called ~/.procmailrc to sort mail into the proper subdirectories under ~/Maildir
[02:51] <magoo> LinuxJones: cool just was i was lookin foor :)
[02:51] <kanzen> if I do an "evms_query disks" I see the devices the disks that I usually handle with mdadm
[02:52] <nickrud> Efwis, then, dovecot will serve the folders in Maildir to your email client
[02:52] <duende> how bad is it when you get "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault"  ?
[02:52] <jaysinn> LinuxJones, I tried still same message, Any other ideas?
[02:52] <Efwis> oh sounds like fun
[02:53] <LinuxJones> jaysinn, did you apt-get update ?
[02:53] <jbalint> Anybody know of a key-sequence to change to a diff desktop on the GNOME?>
[02:53] <pepsi> ctrl-alt-arrow?
[02:53] <LinuxJones> jaysinn, your running hoary or warty ?
[02:54] <jbalint> pepsi: Cool, thanks.
[02:54] <coke> :P
[02:55] <inc595> hey anyone got crystal svg 3.0 icons for gnome?
[02:56] <Stew2> okay I'm going to exit and try the new colors
[02:56] <jaysinn> hoary
[02:56] <jaysinn> Yes I ran the update
[02:56] <ChrisCF> Is it right that "sudo clear >> /etc/motd" should fail?
[02:57] <kvidell> yea
[02:57] <kvidell> you trying to empty the file out?
[02:57] <ChrisCF> No
[02:58] <ChrisCF> Trying to get the (apparently untypeable) control codes for clearing the terminal into the motd, where I can move the text around them
[02:59] <inc595> any one know where to find crystal svg 3.0 icons for gnome? I can only find the kde version
[02:59] <ChrisCF> So, why doesn't it work?
[03:00] <ChrisCF> More importantly, why "shouldn't" it work
[03:00] <inc595> invalid format error
[03:00] <geargolem> can someone please help me get an nvidia graphics card to work on Hoary?
[03:00] <kvidell> because what you're telling it to do there is dump the stdout of the command "clear" in to motd
[03:00] <kvidell> which is.. well.. nothing
[03:01] <ChrisCF> ... which is entirely not what I asked
[03:01] <kvidell> Then phrase it better, because it is :)
[03:01] <ChrisCF> I'm getting "Permission denied"
[03:01] <kvidell> On a V200 it's \[J
[03:02] <ChrisCF> what I've found is the output being something like that, but seemingly untypeable in an editor
[03:02] <ChrisCF> Why, even when using sudo, am I getting "Permission denied"?
[03:02] <joeinspirit> Question: Can anyone recommend a good guide to installing mythtv on ubuntu... a guide fo stupid people that need step by steps?
[03:03] <kvidell> because the command you're trying to run is impossible. It doesn't know what to do so it tells you the first error that sounds good, I guess.
[03:03] <ChrisCF> Wrong.
[03:03] <ChrisCF> Why do you think it's impossible?
[03:04] <kvidell> because clear doesn't have any output? we've been through this
[03:04] <ChrisCF> Try running "clear > foo"
[03:04] <kvidell> clear > foo && cat foo returns ESC[HESC[J
[03:04] <geargolem> How do I configure a kernel for nvidia to install the driver for the card?
[03:04] <kvidell> which isn't real output
[03:04] <kvidell> if you've answers your own question, why are you harassing me about telling you what's obvious?
[03:04] <joeinspirit> geargolem ubuntuguide.org
[03:04] <kvidell> answered*
[03:05] <ChrisCF> It still has the effect of blanking the terminal when it's sent to the terminal
[03:05] <kvidell> That's it's job :-P
[03:05] <ChrisCF> ...
[03:05] <geetergod> im back, who was i talking to?
[03:05] <kvidell> Are you trying to get it so that /etc/motd clears the screen and leaves you with a clean terminal?
[03:05] <joeinspirit> clear is a function of the program that U are using when you "use" the "terminal"
[03:06] <ChrisCF> pretty much - there or /etc/issue
[03:07] <geetergod> Can someone help me with my sound?
[03:07] <ChrisCF> The control codes you get, when you stick them at the start of /etc/issue clear the screen from the last logout, then show the rest of the file as normal.
[03:07] <tyler> How do I keep IDE_GENERIC from loading? It's loading BEFORE my hardware specfic drivers, and preventing me from getting IDE DMA
[03:07] <geetergod> its really complicated and awful and its driving me nuts
[03:07] <joeinspirit> geetergod what is your problem.
[03:07] <joeinspirit> geetergod the short version
[03:07] <ChrisCF> but I can't seem to type the codes I need when using cat or vi, hence just dumping the control codes from "clear" into the file
[03:08] <joeinspirit> ChrisCF syntax issue.
[03:08] <kvidell> try typing Ctrl+V Ctrl+[
[03:08] <ChrisCF> What I want to know is why I can't redirect to a file even with sudo
[03:08] <geetergod> joeinspirit, i have no sound, i did last night, its like i dont have the soundcard enabled anymore
[03:08] <tyler> ChrisCF: Why can't you redirect to a file?
[03:08] <ChrisCF> Permission denied
[03:08] <kvidell> I have it working on a BSD box using a VT100 style terminal
[03:09] <nickrud> Efwis, you still around?
[03:09] <Efwis> yep
[03:09] <tyler> ChrisCF just write to somewhere you can. IE: somecommand > /home/chris/somefile
[03:09] <nickrud> ok, then
[03:09] <kvidell> clear > foo && cat foo clears the screen
[03:09] <joeinspirit> geetergod, well did you do anything between then and now? other then reboot?
[03:09] <geetergod> nickrud, i didnt dare take it out
[03:09] <geetergod> joeinspirit, just messed with the settings trying to get the surround sound to work
[03:09] <tyler> ChrisCF: Or just do what I did and sudo passwd, and just use root when needed ;)_
[03:09] <nickrud> to set up fetchmail, just run fetchmailconf, it's pretty simple. that will get your mail from your pop server
[03:10] <joeinspirit> geetergod, see if alsa is even recognizing your card, go to terminal type alsamixer
[03:10] <nickrud> I've put a section of my ~/.procmailrc at http://pastebin.com/299193
[03:10] <geetergod> joeinspirit, that part works
[03:10] <nickrud> that section, (with the private stuff missing :) is complete
[03:11] <nickrud> for more info on setting up a procmailrc, look at http://userpages.umbc.edu/~ian/procmail.html
[03:11] <geetergod> joeinspirit, but i think its recognizing the old card thats in there
[03:11] <joeinspirit> does it list the correct card?
[03:11] <joeinspirit> ok
[03:11] <joeinspirit> well
[03:11] <joeinspirit> you have to tell alsa to choose the right card
[03:11] <geetergod> joeinspirit, AMP Ltd AUDIO2000, thats the card it lists
[03:11] <joeinspirit> is that the card you want to use?
[03:11] <geetergod> joeinspirit, how?
[03:11] <ChrisCF> tyler, thanks
[03:11] <tyler> ChrisCF: Sure ;)
[03:12] <geetergod> joeinspirit, no its not
[03:12] <dennis_> guys, how do I install gcc if I have ubuntu cd?
[03:12] <geetergod> joeinspirit, i wanna use a Chaintech 7.1 card
[03:12] <weedar> Is there a way to use a passphrase as encryption for a wifi in linux? iwconfig manpage says it doesn't
[03:12] <nickrud> Efwis, it may look complex, but, it's actually simple once you wrap your head around it
[03:12] <Efwis> nickrud, anything else I need to do or will that howto for fetchmail give me all the info?
[03:12] <nickrud> geetergod, sometimes, surgery is the only answer
[03:13] <RastaMahata> http://ter.air0day.com/?script=revengeofthesith
[03:13] <LinuxJones> dennis_, apt-get install build-essential
[03:13] <joeinspirit> geetergod, if you had asked me 6 months ago I could have told you but I forgot. basically you need to check alsa's website. there are instructions. both your cards are in var and you need to remap the sound to the correct card, there is also a alsa config file. sorry I don't really remember the specifics.
[03:13] <geetergod> nickrud, if it worked before with it in there why does it need to go now?
[03:13] <LinuxJones> jaysinn, try apt-get upgrade
[03:13] <dennis_> thanks LinuxJones
[03:13] <joeinspirit> geetergod, also there is a way to tell alsa to manually pick the correct card.
[03:14] <nickrud> Efwis, fetchmail is one of the oldest pieces of free software, it's pretty much solid. fetchmailconf has always set me up nicely, if you can set up email in windows, fetchmailconf is a snap
[03:14] <joeinspirit> geetergod using the alsa player.
[03:14] <geetergod> joeinspirit, how do  you use the alsa player?
[03:14] <Efwis> kewl,  will work on it in a sec, got an idiot in my spyware forum with a nasty rootkit to fix
[03:14] <nickrud> geetergod, that's what I would do, but I'm bloodthirsty :)
[03:14] <LinuxJones> dennis_, there is alot of great info @ www.ubuntuguide.org for new Linux/Ubuntu users
[03:15] <geetergod> nickrud, ide just break somethin
[03:15] <joeinspirit> geetergod, you download it, then in the terminal type alsaplayer, the option to manually pick the card can be found by typing alsaplayer --helpp
[03:15] <nickrud> geetergod, it's already broken, so, maybe joeinspirit can help
[03:15] <Tobes> Having trouble getting sound to play in Quicktime movies. I've been following the instructions from ubuntuguide.org, and I can get video to play without sound, when w32codecs is not installed. When it is installed, I don't get video OR sound. Been testing with the apple.com trailers, using mozilla-mplayer. I've also tried downloading quicktime movies and playing them in VLC, still no sound. I get sound for all other video fo
[03:15] <Tobes> rmats. Any ideas?
[03:16] <joeinspirit> geetergod, what nickrud suggested is a simple option if you don't want to screw with it. IF you want to have both cards then your going to have to learn how it works. and then like me forget a few months later
[03:17] <tyler> Anyone know where us.archive is located? Just curious... I'm getting REALLY good speed off of it
[03:17] <joeinspirit> geetergod is the "other" card that it is using but you don't want it to use, a on-board sound card?
[03:17] <tyler> Tobes: Can you get sound otherwise?
[03:17] <LinuxJones> Tobes, what do you have for Default Sink : Output in gstreamer-properties ?
[03:18] <shen> Can some one help me disable the trackpad on my ibook under hoary?
[03:18] <geetergod> joeinspirit, this is what i get when i type in alsa --help... http://pastebin.com/299195
[03:18] <joeinspirit> geetergod, if so then you can usually disable it in the bios, then alsa  *should have no option but to pick the only card avalible.
[03:18] <Tobes> Tyler: I can get sound for other video and music formats, even flash in Firefox.
[03:18] <joeinspirit> geetergod, its not alsa, its alsaplayer.
[03:18] <tyler> Tobes: Hrrm, weird
[03:18] <geetergod> joeinspirit, i mean alsaplayer
[03:18] <seth_k> tyler: GeoSelect places US archive in Wisconsin
[03:18] <tyler> Tobes: From my expirence VLC can play basically anything without issue
[03:18] <joeinspirit> geetergod what version did you download of alsaplayer?
[03:19] <Tobes> LinuxJones: Not sure.
[03:19] <tyler> seth_k: Intersting... I rarely get these kind of speeds (Currently 480kB/sec) on anyhting out of state
[03:19] <geetergod> joeinspirit, i just did sudo apt-get install aslaplayer
[03:19] <Tobes> tyler: Same, just having issues with quicktime and sound.
[03:19] <seth_k> tyler: not sure how accurate geoselect is
[03:19] <LinuxJones> Tobes, ok hit alt + F2 then type gstreamer (it will auto-complete) then hit enter
[03:19] <joeinspirit> geetergod then try 'man alsaplayer'
[03:20] <geetergod> No manual entry for aslaplayer
[03:20] <joeinspirit> hum, perhaps the package you was complied in some strange way.
[03:21] <geetergod> or it didnt insall right
[03:21] <Tobes> LinuxJones: ESD is my default output.
[03:21] <joeinspirit> but in anycase geetergod, it doesn't do you much good as you know that the both cards work
[03:21] <joeinspirit> so
[03:21] <geetergod> joeinspirit, hop in my computer and fix it :)
[03:21] <joeinspirit> geetergod, is the soundcard a onboard card?
[03:21] <geetergod> joeinspirit, onboard card? i plugged it inside the puter
[03:21] <LinuxJones> Tobes, can you try selecting alsa and then hit test to see if it works
[03:21] <joeinspirit> geetergod, you said you have two cards right?
[03:22] <geetergod> yes
[03:22] <joeinspirit> geetergod is one of them build into the motherboard?
[03:22] <Tobes> LinuxJones: Failed to construct test pipeline for 'ALSA'.
[03:22] <geetergod> joeinspirit, yes
[03:22] <LinuxJones> Tobes, how about oss ?
[03:22] <joeinspirit> geetergod is that the one you want to be using?
[03:22] <joeinspirit> or the one you put in there?
[03:22] <Tobes> LinuxJones: Same error, for OSS.
[03:22] <geetergod> joeinspirit, no
[03:23] <joeinspirit> geetergod, then a possible sollution is to
[03:23] <geetergod> joeinspirit, the old one is in the motherboard
[03:23] <glDaher> I've ordered the ubuntu cds two months ago, and still nothing in my mailbox, any ideas?
[03:23] <joeinspirit> geetergod, reboot the computer, go into bios and disable the onboard soundcard,
[03:23] <geetergod> joeinspirit, bios by hitting delete key when its restarting?
[03:23] <inc595> anyone how to fix and  audio codec 0x56444152 not found error when playing dvds
[03:23] <joeinspirit> geetergod, consult your motherboard manual.
[03:23] <joeinspirit> geetergod, usually some OEMs like dell make it like f2
[03:24] <LinuxJones> Tobes, argh that's a weird error, re-select esd and try asking again in a few mins. I am too loaded to help any further atm :)
[03:24] <geetergod> joeinspirit, mines Delete key, but where do i go there and what do i do?
[03:24] <geetergod> joeinspirit, tell me and i'll write it down :)
[03:24] <Tobes> LinuxJones: OK, thanks. Will continue poking around for solutions elsewhere.
[03:25] <joeinspirit> geetergod, you will need to figure that out, it depends on what bios software you are using, what brand, etc etc. consult your bios manual. on mine its advanced options, "disable onboard sound card"
[03:25] <geetergod> joeinspirit, ok
[03:25] <LinuxJones> Tobes, what video player are you using ?
[03:25] <inc595> evil dvds
[03:25] <joeinspirit> geetergod, what you are going to do is turn the one off on the motherboard, so your OS only can see one card, the one you installed.
[03:26] <geetergod> ok
[03:26] <joeinspirit> geetergod, you might find yourself of sh*t creek if you have a cheap motherboard and they did not provide you the option of turning it off.
[03:26] <geargolem> no luck with the ubuntuguide.org on the nvidia installation.
[03:26] <joeinspirit> geetergod, if that is the case then you will need to hunt up the instruction for telling alsa which card to use.
[03:27] <geetergod> ok
[03:27] <geetergod> im writtng all this down :)
[03:28] <nickrud> geargolem, I've jumped in a bit late here (smoke break) but why are using ubuntuguide for nvidia instead of the wiki?
[03:28] <joeinspirit> geetergod, i'd be happy to tell you how to do it, but its been months since I have even had to think about alsa, so its all gone from my brain. but its fairly simple.
[03:28] <geetergod> joeinspirit, any last words before i ruin it? :)
[03:28] <geargolem> don't know nickrud.
[03:28] <joeinspirit> geetergod, if all else fails reinsatll ubuntu.
[03:28] <geetergod> joeinspirit, ok, wish me luck :)
[03:28] <joeinspirit> , geetergod, also
[03:28] <Tobes> LinuxJones: Sorry for the delay. I use VLC for offline viewing, mozilla-mplayer for embedded.
[03:29] <geetergod> yes?
[03:29] <joeinspirit> geetergod, if even all that fails. and you can't turn off the onboard card, then what you should perhaps try is taking the "new" card out , install ubuntu, then add the card in.
[03:29] <nickrud> geargolem, then, use http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto , at least you'll get some support if it doesn't work for you
[03:29] <geetergod> joeinspirit, good call, i dont know how to install ubuntu, my brother did it but ok
[03:29] <joeinspirit> geetergod, but your best bet if you can't get the old card deactivated is to look up those directions I've told you, well
[03:29] <geetergod> so i might wait for him if i tdon twork
[03:30] <joeinspirit> reinstalling isn't really neccessary.
[03:30] <joeinspirit> but
[03:30] <joeinspirit> for the noob
[03:30] <joeinspirit> its usally the easiest option
[03:30] <trilluser> question: which boot loader does ubuntu use? and where do I edit it?
[03:30] <geetergod> ok
[03:30] <Ninwa> Hello, I was wondering if you guys think that Ubuntu will run well on a T20 IBM Notebook (755Mhz, 512MB ram) ... I've never had much luck with Linux on notebooks before.
[03:30] <joeinspirit> Mojo_Jojo, grub
[03:30] <geetergod> ok, here i go
[03:30] <nickrud> ah, the old reinstall cuz everything's f*sk'ed up :)
[03:30] <joeinspirit> Mojo_Jojo, you go to /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:30] <nickrud> been there
[03:30] <xoz> Mojo_Jojo: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:30] <Mojo_Jojo> awesome, thanks
[03:31] <quam> i dont miss lilo one bit :p
[03:31] <LinuxJones> Tobes, osunds liek a codec problem if everything else is working ok can you try installing gxine and the w32codec packages and tryplaying your files using that ?
[03:31] <geargolem> nickrud, no luck.
[03:31] <mrchicago> hey
[03:31] <mrchicago> i have a prob
[03:32] <Tobes> LinuxJones: I'll look into gxine, but when I install w32codecs, mplayer stops working for Quicktime altogether.
[03:32] <nickrud> geargolem, what video card do you have?
[03:32] <mrchicago> im trying to compile a .gz file
[03:32] <mrchicago> and it gives me this
[03:32] <Tobes> LinuxJones: gxine is already installed.
[03:32] <tsaphah> so, my system hangs during startup at the "Loading ..." prompt before it shows it unloaded the kernel. Is there a way to speed this up?
[03:33] <LinuxJones> Tobes, can you play them from gxine ?
[03:33] <Tobes> LinuxJones: Misread. Will play using gxine.
[03:33] <Tobes> LinuxJones: One moment, let me test.
[03:33] <LinuxJones> :)
[03:33] <randabis> Ninwa: If you're still there, ubuntu should run great on your IBM notebook at those specs. Ubuntu runs reasonably well on my old gateway laptop (450mhz Pentium 3, 224MB RAM)
[03:33] <mrchicago> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[03:33] <mrchicago> See `config.log' for more details.
[03:33] <geargolem> nickrud, e-GeForce FX 5200.  for some reason synaptic won't let me access updates
[03:33] <mrchicago> so what do i do to rip thyself of this issue
[03:33] <mrchicago> so what do i do to rid thyself of this issue
[03:33] <mrchicago> that is
[03:33] <randabis> Ninwa: main concerns would be video and networking
[03:34] <LinuxJones> geargolem, hit the reload button top left first
[03:34] <nickrud> geargolem, I've never used an nvidia, but I've seen lots of people on this list have success with that card
[03:34] <joeinspirit> tsaphah do you mean when it sits and waits for you to pick a os to load?
[03:34] <nickrud> so, what do you mean, 'synaptic won't let me access updates'
[03:34] <Ninwa> randabis, thanks
[03:34] <Ninwa> the network is a pcmia wireless card
[03:34] <Ninwa> how does ubuntu fair with those?
[03:34] <mrchicago> and i have an issue with like dvd stuff too
[03:34] <Shish> Ninwa: try the livecd first?
[03:34] <Tobes> LinuxJones: "Error loading library qtmlClient.dll", when I begin playing a quicktime file. Video, no sound.
[03:34] <geargolem> nickrud, i followed so many orders I think I screwed up my machine
[03:34] <Ninwa> shish, that's probably a good suggestion
[03:34] <Tobes> LinuxJones: Looks like I'm either missing that library, or it's corrupt.
[03:34] <mrchicago> heh
[03:35] <nickrud> geargolem, lol
[03:35] <LinuxJones> Tobes, aha
[03:35] <randabis> Ninwa: depends on the card. It's hit or miss usually with wifi cards. A lot work out of the box, while others require tinkering after the install
[03:35] <nickrud> geargolem, not you, I am not laughing at you
[03:35] <geargolem> nickrud,  I edit xserver-xorg with dri, without, with nv, without....
[03:35] <mrchicago> btw xmame works great
[03:35] <Ninwa> alright, so you would recommend trying it with the livecd first? so no harm done if it doesnt work
[03:35] <mrchicago> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[03:35] <tsaphah> joeinspirit: uh, no :-) After I choose the linux image.  I believe it says: "Loading Ubuntu...", after the hang it unloades the kernel and goes through "normal" boot process
[03:36] <nickrud> geargolem, ok, lets try to start from scratch
[03:36] <mrchicago> any clue what i should do
[03:36] <weedar> I have a router in my LAN, I forgot which IP-adress it uses (not the default) - is there any way I can find it out?
[03:36] <randabis> Ninwa: sure..that would be a good course of action to take for testing purposes
[03:36] <jaysinn> whats the difference between the lice cd and the regular install?
[03:36] <geargolem> ok nickrud
[03:36] <jaysinn> live
[03:36] <nickrud> geargolem, in a terminal, cd /etc/X11
[03:36] <LinuxJones> Tobes, I knew it had to be a codec problem, where did you get the w32codec from Ubuntu or the mplayer site ?
[03:36] <joeinspirit> tsaphah, could be that you just have a large kernel image to load.
[03:36] <Ninwa> jaysinn, livecd downloads all of the install files I imagine.. It's a smaller cd, but you download everything then afterward
[03:36] <geargolem> ok nickrud
[03:36] <tsaphah> jaysinn: live cd runs in ram.. not used for installing.  Use it to test ubuntu
[03:36] <randabis> Ninwa: you could always check the hardware compatibility lists on the ubuntu wiki as well
[03:36] <mrchicago> i thought gcc was already like included
[03:36] <Kanuhas> geargolem, have you tried ubuntuguide.org for your nvidia? It worked for me, gigabyte 6600GT
[03:36] <jaysinn> ok
[03:36] <Ninwa> randabis, Oh! Didnt evne know about that, great suggestion
[03:37] <Ninwa> thank you
[03:37] <nickrud> geargolem, sudo mv xorg.conf xorg.conf.bogus
[03:37] <jaysinn> thanks
[03:37] <Tobes> LinuxJones: It was listed in one of the apt-repositories from UbuntuGuide.org.
[03:37] <tsaphah> joeinspirit: hm, well its just the default.  Guess I could take some time to par it down..
[03:37] <randabis> jaysinn: livecd runs off of the CD, nothing is saved to the hard drive...regular install requires putting data on the hard drive
[03:37] <jaysinn> I see
[03:37] <geargolem> don't confuse me Kanuhas :)   ok, nickrud
[03:37] <LinuxJones> Tobes, that is probably the ones from the Miralat repositories ?
[03:37] <joeinspirit> tsaphah, what type of system , is this some slow box for like routing or something?
[03:38] <randabis> it uses what is called a ramdisk to run off of the RAM without writing to the hard disk
[03:38] <Ninwa> randabis, Thats awesome
[03:38] <Ninwa> my notebook "just works"
[03:38] <nickrud> geargolem, now, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:38] <Ninwa> with one minor tweak
[03:38] <randabis> Ninwa: great :)
[03:38] <geargolem> I'm there, nickrud
[03:38] <geetergod> joeinspirit, u here?
[03:38] <randabis> Ninwa: I'd still advise testing with the livecd first as long as you have some spare time/blank disks
[03:38] <mrchicago> need help
[03:38] <Ninwa> randabis, definitely have those, I intended on it
[03:38] <randabis> up to you though
[03:39] <Ninwa> thanks again :)
[03:39] <tsaphah> joeinspirit: Nope, Centrino 1.4 512 ram.. should do fine.  Its probably only a 35 sec hang, so its still not horrid, just a surprising place to hang compared to the other linux's I've used
[03:39] <jaysinn> LinuxJones, I have ubuntu installed via VMWARE on a WINXP_PRO system.  Could that effect the KUBUNTU install?
[03:39] <joeinspirit> tsaphah, still 35 sec shouldn't happen.
[03:39] <LinuxJones> jaysinn, your running ubuntu from vmware ?
[03:39] <randabis> Ninwa: np, always glad to assist another sheep in joining the flock
[03:39] <geetergod> joeinspirit, i hope i didnt scare u away :)
[03:39] <mrchicago> come on, help ;)
[03:39] <joeinspirit> geetergod, so what happened?
[03:40] <Tobes> LinuxJones: Not sure. I just installed w32codecs, and attempted to play the same video from gxine. It plays without the error message, but I still get video with no sound.
[03:40] <jaysinn> yes
[03:40] <mrchicago> i cant go a day without my dvd stuff
[03:40] <geetergod> joeinspirit, i couldnt figure out which one it was be under so i wrote down what i had...
[03:40] <nickrud> geargolem, restart X (log out, then ctl-alt-backspace) this will give you ubuntu's base config. Then, do  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto I've seen this work so many times ....
[03:40] <Ninwa> randabis, that last bit could've been deemed derogatory, partially.. I'd like to see us as birds instead of sheep :)
[03:40] <tsaphah> joeinspirit: that was my thought.  I'll mess with a few other things than see about getting a custom kernel going.
[03:40] <mrchicago> lol
[03:40] <Shish> mrchicago: you have "build-essential" and all the other relevant tools?
[03:40] <joeinspirit> tsaphah, best bet
[03:40] <dr_willis> Mooo
[03:40] <joeinspirit> tsaphah, is that it is hanging while attempt the intial on something.
[03:40] <LinuxJones> Tobes, that's odd man :(
[03:41] <joeinspirit> tsaphah, try the boot log.
[03:41] <randabis> Ninwa: very true. new birds to the nest then :)
[03:41] <Tobes> Tell me about it.
[03:41] <Ninwa> heh heh :)
[03:41] <geargolem> cross your digits, nickrud
[03:41] <nickrud> geargolem, the only issue you should have after that, is if you have a very old monitor that does not do ddc, and I can help with that
[03:41] <joeinspirit> geetergod, hum did you try going in on each of the options?
[03:41] <LinuxJones> jaysinn, have you booted into Ubuntu ?
[03:41] <tsaphah> joeinspirit: good thought, I'll take a look.
[03:42] <jaysinn> LinuxJones, No, I installed with the ISO file on a vitual machine
[03:42] <joeinspirit> tsaphah, ya since 30 sec is often the top out time for intials for kern 2.6
[03:42] <geetergod> joeinspirit, Softmenu III Setup - Standard CMOS features - Advanced BIOS features - Power Managment features - PNP/PCI Configurations - Integrated Peripherals - PC health status - Set Password - Load optimized defaults - Load failsafe default - Load original values
[03:42] <LinuxJones> jaysinn, that's important, you need to re-start your comp and boot into Ubuntu :)
[03:42] <tsaphah> joeinspirit: didn't know that. Thanks
[03:42] <geetergod> joeinspirit, phew. which one would it be under? :)
[03:43] <jaysinn> how can I with vmware?  restart the vitual machine?
[03:43] <dr_willis> jaysinn,  hit the vitrual reset button? :P
[03:43] <joeinspirit> geetergod, ok these are not going to have it, softmenu III setup, power managment, pc health, set pass, load optimized, load fail, load original.
[03:43] <joeinspirit> geetergod, os
[03:43] <joeinspirit> so
[03:43] <LinuxJones> jaysinn, is this the live cd your running or did you actually install /
[03:44] <jaysinn> I installed
[03:44] <jaysinn> updated with sudo apt-get update
[03:44] <joeinspirit> geetergod, I would say try looking in integrated peripherals, advanced features, pnp/pci, finally standard cmos in that order, and look for anything to do with sound, dont' forget sub menus either.
[03:44] <Tobes> LinuxJones: Going to grab one of the essential packs from the mplayerhq site and try adding the codecs manually.
[03:44] <LinuxJones> jaysinn, re-boot your computer and you will be presented with a choice of which operating system you want to launch ....select Ubuntu
[03:44] <geetergod> ok
[03:45] <LinuxJones> Tobes, perfect
[03:45] <jaysinn> thank you See ya in a sec............................................................
[03:45] <geetergod> joeinspirit, i'll let u know
[03:45] <joeinspirit> geetergod, gl
[03:45] <geetergod> thanks <poof>
[03:46] <nickrud> joeinspirit, if you get his sound working, you are a god :)
[03:47] <joeinspirit> nickrud, ya alsa can be a real screwball. I had the exact same problem though on a system like 6 months ago. at that time I still remembered alsa stuff.
[03:47] <nickrud> joeinspirit, it comes and goes, what you know, doesn't it ;)
[03:47] <geargolem> back, nickrud
[03:47] <joeinspirit> nickrud that is for sure.
[03:47] <geargolem> everything
[03:47] <nickrud> geargolem, everything ok?
[03:48] <geargolem> everything is so large onscreen it makes me feel like I should be shouting
[03:48] <alvanson> spiffy!  I can get ubuntu live CD to run on a Toshiba M30 laptop
[03:48] <nickrud> geargolem, so, let's deal with that first
[03:48] <geargolem> ok, nickrud
[03:48] <alvanson> is there any way to get it to read an NTFS partition or is that maybe not a good idea?
[03:48] <nickrud> geargolem, when you last ran X, was the screen size ok?
[03:48] <geargolem> yep, prior to this time
[03:48] <joeinspirit> alvanson, yes
[03:49] <joeinspirit> alvanson, ubuntuguide.org
[03:49] <nickrud> geargolem, good, it's an easy fix
[03:49] <stibby> are there any pages with the wireless cards ubuntu supports?
[03:49] <alvanson> joeinspirit: thanks
[03:49] <stibby> Linksys WMP11 Wireless-B PCI Card
[03:49] <nickrud> geargolem, open a terminal, then cd /etc/X11
[03:49] <geargolem> computer crack, nickrud ?
[03:49] <stibby> i wonder if ubuntu supports that
[03:49] <JohnnyQuest> how do i install qt multithreading?
[03:49] <seth_k> stibby: the chipset is the important part
[03:49] <geargolem> ok, nickrud
[03:49] <Ninwa> stibby: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[03:49] <nickrud> geargolem, no, not crack, just cracked :)
[03:49] <Tobes> LinuxJones: Still no dice. :(
[03:49] <Ninwa> stibby: it doesn't support 2.5
[03:50] <Ninwa> but it supports 3
[03:50] <geargolem> lol nickrud
[03:50] <nickrud> geargolem, now, gedit xorg.conf.bogus
[03:50] <LinuxJones> Tobes, argh
[03:50] <stibby> Ninwa: same for kubuntu, correct?
[03:50] <joeinspirit> xorg.conf.bogus, thats creative backing
[03:50] <nickrud> geargolem, sorry, close that
[03:50] <Ninwa> stibby: oh sorry, I don't know. I'm looking at the ubuntu list.
[03:50] <alvanson> okay, is there a reliable NTFS partition resizer?
[03:50] <geetergod> joeinspirit, i went to Integrated Peripherals and saw Audio Device and it was disabled so i enabled it
[03:50] <nickrud> i've done a lot of bogus things on my machine, it comes natural :)
[03:51] <geargolem> ok. nickrud, closed
[03:51] <joeinspirit> alvanson, I would suggest you don't do that, if you are all concerned about the information, then try partition magic.
[03:51] <wc_nix> anybody else here using the amd64 build of Ubuntu 5.04
[03:51] <wc_nix> ??
[03:51] <geetergod> joeinspirit, i didnt check the other ones cause i had my hopes up about this one
[03:51] <nickrud> geargolem, sudo gedit xorg.conf xorg.conf.bogus
[03:51] <nickrud> geargolem, that will open two tabs in gedit
[03:51] <joeinspirit> alvanson, the problem is any linux or opensource program for doing that, is backwards engineered as microsoft hasn't relased the ntfs code
[03:51] <dr_willis> wc_nix,  i was.. then went back to the 32 bit ersion
[03:52] <wc_nix> did you have problems?
[03:52] <wc_nix> which caused you to revert back to 32 bit/
[03:52] <randabis> alvanson: I think Gparted or qtparted can resize NTFS.
[03:52] <geargolem> as you said, nickrud
[03:52] <alvanson> okay
[03:52] <dr_willis> wc_nix,  yes.. and no. :P of course there were reasons i went back.
[03:52] <joeinspirit> geetergod, hum
[03:52] <alvanson> thanks guys
[03:52] <randabis> alvanson: there's also a program you can download to a floppy disk called BootITNG that can do it
[03:52] <wc_nix> because I'm currently using the amd64 version and it's giving me problems compiling and configuring and installing
[03:52] <wc_nix> what were the reasons why you went back?
[03:52] <dr_willis> wc_nix,  depends on what you are doing.. my problems may not bother you.   Ive had no problems with compiling and configuring/installing.
[03:52] <joeinspirit> geetergod. let me try spoofing around and see if I can remember some stuff. are you in linux now
[03:52] <geetergod> joeinspirit, should i try plugging speakers into old soundcard?
[03:52] <stibby> could someone recommend to me a 102.11b wireless PCI card that is very well supported by Ubuntu?
[03:52] <JohnnyQuest> how do i install qt multithreading?
[03:53] <joeinspirit> geetergod, is your sound working now?
[03:53] <nickrud> geargolem, now, if you compare the two tabs, bogus should have a section monitor that has lines like HorizSync and VertRefresh, and xorg.conf will not
[03:53] <wc_nix> wonder why mine is giving me problems then dr_willis
[03:53] <geetergod> joeinspirit, no its not, and yes, im on ubuntu
[03:53] <dr_willis> wc_nix,  flash dident work.. cedega/wine had issues.. a few other little programs dident like 64bit.
[03:53] <Tobes> Stibby: There's always ndiswrapper.
[03:53] <geargolem> thats right, nickrud
[03:53] <joeinspirit> geetergod, if all you is sound try plugin the speakers into the other card yes
[03:53] <randabis> stibby: best bet would be to check the hardware lists on the ubuntu wiki
[03:53] <wc_nix> i cant even get a single app to compile
[03:53] <wc_nix> :-(
[03:53] <nickrud> geargolem, so, copy the missing lines from xorg.conf from bogus
[03:53] <JohnnyQuest> anyone in here use ubuntu?
[03:54] <Tobes> Nope. Linux sucks. Long live windows!
[03:54] <dr_willis> JohnnyQuest,  whats that? :P
[03:54] <JohnnyQuest> lol
[03:54] <randabis> uh probably
[03:54] <wc_nix> JohnnyQuest, what is the channel you are in?
[03:54] <LinuxJones> haha
[03:54] <JohnnyQuest> finally someone ansewrs me!!
[03:54] <wc_nix> #ubuntu
[03:54] <randabis> kubuntu here
[03:54] <JohnnyQuest> now back to my question
[03:54] <nickrud> *into xorg.conf from xorg.cong.bogus
[03:54] <wc_nix> lmao
[03:54] <JohnnyQuest> how do i install qt multithreading?
[03:54] <geargolem> seems clear so far, nickrud
[03:54] <wc_nix> kubuntu?
[03:54] <JohnnyQuest> it got peoples attention
[03:54] <randabis> yep
[03:54] <randabis> kubuntu brought balance to the force
[03:54] <nickrud> geargolem, ok save xorg.conf, and restart X, you should have a good looking screen
[03:54] <geargolem> here goes, nickrud
[03:55] <wc_nix> sweet, a KDE version of Ubuntu
[03:55] <wc_nix> :-)
[03:55] <LinuxJones> JohnnyQuest, what is that ?
[03:55] <dr_willis> wc_nix,  or a Ubuntu vershiin of KDE> :P
[03:55] <Tobes> Meh, I still use traditional Ubuntu. I like GNOME. :)
[03:55] <joeinspirit> \dump grep | joeinpirit >> mysql1.ddb .. highlight -RGB blue
[03:56] <wirjo> can anyone teach me how to use Cron and schedule tasks?
[03:56] <joeinspirit> sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop, then you can have both.
[03:56] <wc_nix> i think i may go to the x86 version of Ubuntu
[03:56] <wc_nix> this amd64 one doesnt like me too much
[03:56] <geetergod> joeinspirit, its plugged into the old card now and i heard the speakers beep when i rebooted but they're not working now
[03:56] <randabis> Tobes: some people like milk, others like milkshakes
[03:56] <conner> wirjo, what are you trying to do with cron?
[03:56] <dr_willis> wc_nix,  yea  its a work in progress
[03:57] <LinuxJones> wirjo, install gcron
[03:57] <wirjo> gcron? what's that do?
[03:57] <Tobes> randabis: Nice analogy. X3
[03:57] <geargolem> looks pretty good, nickrud
[03:57] <jaysinn> Has anyone ran KUBUNTU on a VMWARE virtual computer running XP-Pro?  Can not get KUBUNTU installed?
[03:57] <randabis> hehe
[03:57] <joeinspirit> geeter, hum. well
[03:57] <nickrud> geargolem, ok, now, in a terminal, glxinfo | grep direct
[03:57] <Shish> gtk cron, I assume
[03:57] <LinuxJones> wirjo, it's a graphical cron utility so you don't have to learn the command line :)
[03:57] <wirjo> LinuxJones, ok - i will try that.
[03:57] <randabis> I think milk vs. orange juice might be better in terms of what you like to drink for breakfast...I digress
[03:57] <wc_nix> M$ Winblows
[03:57] <joeinspirit> geetergod, disable that sound card in bios again. try pluggin speakers back into new card.
[03:58] <joeinspirit> rebot
[03:58] <wc_nix> i hope when Apple goes to x86 that they kill M$
[03:58] <geetergod> joeinspirit...
[03:58] <LinuxJones> wirjo, but the command line still is # 1 !!
[03:58] <joeinspirit> geetergod, then turn off the system. remove the new card, and reboot. run alsamixer, then see what it says
[03:58] <randabis> I don't mess with VMWare...I'm native linux
[03:58] <nickrud> geargolem, there'll be a line that yes, or now
[03:58] <geetergod> joeinspirit, now under Volume control i have a ton of things to choose
[03:58] <nickrud> geargolem, there'll be a line that yes, or no
[03:58] <Tobes> randabis: Maybe, but with milk vs milkshakes, you can talk about milkshakes having more calories... Or something.
[03:58] <wc_nix> gtg, gonna reformat and put the x86 version of Ubuntu on this shiz
[03:58] <randabis> Tobes: hmm true
[03:58] <randabis> didn't think of that
[03:58] <joeinspirit> geetergod, well are you sure it's not just muted?
[03:59] <LinuxJones> wc_nix, it will be a non-issue since apple will only support a small footprint of hardware
[03:59] <wirjo> LinuxJones - where I can get this gcron?
[03:59] <geetergod> joeinspirit, under Change Device in volume control i have a few to choose from now
[03:59] <geargolem> extension "GLX" missing, nickrud
[03:59] <jaysinn> What s GCRON?
[03:59] <joeinspirit> which card does alsamixer say its running?
[03:59] <joeinspirit> geetergod ^
[03:59] <wirjo> LinuxJones - I also wouldn't mind learning the command line...
[03:59] <LinuxJones> wirjo, you can install it using apt-get or synaptic
[04:00] <nickrud> geargolem, that's not what I asked for, but ...
[04:00] <randabis> LinuxJones: yeah x86 MacOS is going to have measures to prevent it from being used generically :/
[04:00] <wirjo> LinuxJones - just doing "sudo apt-get install gcron"?
[04:00] <Shish> jaysinn: gtk cron frontend
[04:00] <nickrud> geargolem, do that wiki page, and, if you do it exactly, you should be ok
[04:00] <geargolem> nickrud, believe me when I say it doesn
[04:00] <geargolem> 't say yes or no
[04:00] <nickrud> geargolem, you said a 5200?
[04:00] <geetergod> joeinspirt, AMP Ltd AUDIO 2000 and SiS SI7012
[04:00] <geargolem> nickrud, yes
[04:00] <jaysinn>  window manger front end
[04:00] <joeinspirit> geetergod, hum and what card is the one you installed?
[04:01] <wirjo> ok - i got gcrontab
[04:01] <joeinspirit> sis sounds like a onboard card unless the card you bought was a cheap thing.
[04:01] <geetergod> joeinspirit the new card is a Chaintech 7.1
[04:01] <joeinspirit> geetergod well alsa is definatly using the onboard one noe.
[04:01] <nickrud> geargolem, from this starting point, it should. If it doesn't, and *you walk through that wiki exactly* you have found a real but
[04:01] <geetergod> joeinspirit, should i plug speakers in new card and try SiS?
[04:01] <joeinspirit> geetergod, just a second.
[04:01] <joeinspirit> ya
[04:01] <nickrud> s/but/bug
[04:01] <joeinspirit> sure
[04:01] <geetergod> joeinspirit, k
[04:02] <LinuxJones> wirjo, gcrontab is in the universe repository you need to have that enabled before you can install it
[04:02] <magoo> hey! im having problems installing/retrieving libgii0 and libggi2 saying md5s not correct. followed the ubuntoguide.org on adding repositories. any ideas howto fix this?
[04:02] <jaysinn> I have been a Windows guy for 6 years.  UBUNTU is the best flavor of LINUX I personally have used:::::::::::::
[04:03] <LinuxJones> randabis, apple are not stupid and will continue doing what they have been doing for the past for 20 years...they are a hardware company after all :)
[04:03] <geargolem> nickrud, I followed the wiki, not much to it.  how do I test my card?
[04:03] <randabis> LinuxJones: yeah I realize that. I'm not knocking them for it at all :)
[04:03] <geargolem> nickrud, glxgears doesn't work or synaptic
[04:04] <randabis> LinuxJones: I wish they would have chosen AMD though :(
[04:04] <nickrud> geargolem, you must do the wike now, after we did the changes i walked you through.
[04:04] <LinuxJones> randabis, I wish them luck also, their systems don't fill mine with spam :)
[04:04] <joeinspirit> geetergod, any luck
[04:04] <randabis> LinuxJones: Indeed. :)
[04:04] <geetergod> Joeinspirit, when i try to play a song in xmms i still get "Please check that: Your soundcard is configured properly - You have the correct plugin selected - No other program is blocking the soundcard
[04:04] <geargolem> yes, nickrud  i did do the wiki
[04:05] <nickrud> geargolem, just now?
[04:05] <geetergod> joeinspirit, it said that before too
[04:05] <randabis> Putting intel processors in the apples makes me less inclined to purchase one though :/
[04:05] <geargolem> yes nickrud
[04:05] <geetergod> joeinspirit, the speakers work cause when i unplug them and touch the end i can hear them humm
[04:05] <nickrud> geargolem, then, you have a bug, and you need to file it
[04:05] <Tobes> LinuxJones: Thanks for all the help, but I think I'm going to get QT sound support on hold, relax, and watch a little TV. Adios.
[04:05] <kvidell> geetergod: in a terminal, type "lsof | grep dsp"
[04:05] <LinuxJones> randabis, well amd need to build more infrastructure and guarantee large volume orders
[04:05] <kvidell> what's the reply?
[04:05] <LinuxJones> Tobes, GL :)
[04:05] <kvidell> (ignore any permission errors)
[04:06] <geetergod> kvidell, no reply
[04:06] <geargolem> ok nickrud
[04:06] <nickrud> geargolem, if you have truly redone dpkg-reconfigure, changed the monitor resolution, then done the wiki exactly, there is something else wrong, and that is a bug
[04:06] <randabis> LinuxJones: Very true. In terms of technology they do produce superior hardware though. :)
[04:07] <geargolem> nickrud, thanks for trying.  could the error I get for synaptic be part of it?
[04:07] <joeinspirit> geetergod, try lsmod
[04:07] <nickrud> geargolem, yeah, what is that error from synaptic
[04:07] <LinuxJones> randabis, I wouldn't run anything else :)
[04:07] <geetergod> joeinspirit, want me to pastebin it for u?
[04:07] <joeinspirit> geetergod, look for snd
[04:07] <joeinspirit> geetergod, no, just what is it running for the main snd entry.
[04:07] <randabis> LinuxJones: good man. :)
[04:08] <geargolem> nickrud, unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file
[04:08] <geetergod> joeinspirit, theres a lot of snd entries
[04:08] <nickrud> geargolem, you are trying to start synapic the wrong way, I would guess. Just use system->admin->synaptic
[04:09] <joeinspirit> geetergod, so is the onboard card now disabled?
[04:09] <joeinspirit> or is it still enabled?
[04:09] <geargolem> nah, same error, nickrud
[04:09] <geargolem> thanks for the help nickrud
[04:09] <nickrud> heh
[04:09] <wirjo> I use Nvidia-settings color correction, but everytime I log out, I need to first run nvidia-settings in order to apply the color-correction, is there anyway I can autostart this?
[04:09] <geetergod> joeinspirit, its still enabled i believe
[04:09] <geetergod> joeinspirit, in BIOS you mean?
[04:10] <joeinspirit> well lets get you back at least to where you were before, yes in bios disabled the onboard snd card.
[04:10] <geargolem> nickrud glxgears or other 3d apps won't work
[04:10] <joeinspirit> geargolem whats the error? and what v-card type?
[04:11] <nickrud> geargolem, if system->admin->synaptic gives you that error, you have something extremely wrong with your install
[04:11] <geetergod> joeinspirit, disable the audio device in Integrated Peripherals?
[04:11] <joeinspirit> geetergod, yes that will get you back to where you were before.
[04:11] <geetergod> ok
[04:11] <geargolem> nickrud can I reinstall and keep my files somehow?
[04:11] <nickrud> in fact, I can't even imaginw what would keep synaptic running from that menu
[04:12] <geargolem> nickrud, tried KDE on Hoary and messed it up somehow
[04:12] <nickrud> geargolem, kde would have no impact (that I can imagine) on gnome's calling of gksudo synaptic
[04:13] <geargolem> dammit
[04:14] <nickrud> geargolem, what in the hell have you done :)
[04:14] <Linforcer> what up people?
[04:14] <LinuxJones> Linforcer, hi
[04:14] <geargolem> nickrud, people think I know more about linux than I do :)
[04:14] <Linforcer> yo
[04:14] <nickrud> geargolem, lol
[04:14] <Linforcer> can y'all tell what ya think of this? http://img10.echo.cx/img10/4121/root0zx.swf
[04:14] <Linforcer> (dont worry it's a drawing not a whole movie
[04:14] <Linforcer> )
[04:15] <nickrud> geargolem, that is an occupational hazard of long time users
[04:15] <LinuxJones> wirjo, yo
[04:15] <geargolem> nickrud can I reinstall Hoary and keep my personal files?
[04:15] <wirjo> hey LinuxJones
[04:15] <wirjo> i still cant get the cron thing running
[04:15] <LinuxJones> wirjo, hi
[04:15] <nickrud> geargolem, if you made home a separate partition, yes
[04:16] <nickrud> geargolem, if not, well, I'd back up home somewhere (cd?) and try again
[04:16] <LinuxJones> wirjo, you probably need to run it using sudo ie... sudo gcron (enter your users password)
[04:16] <squinn> I've so gotta stick with Ubuntu.
[04:16] <joeinspirit> geetergod, what does alsamixer say now.
[04:16] <squinn> It's a PITA to install, but after that, smooth sailing.
[04:16] <wirjo> say I wanna run azureus... dont i just put /usr/bin/azureus in the last column?
[04:17] <geargolem> nickrud, how do I reinstall Hoary?
[04:17] <kvidell> squinn: how is it difficult to install for you?
[04:17] <geetergod> joeinspirit.... i see under PNP/PCI Config. theres a Plug and Play aware O/S and it says "no" should it say yes?
[04:17] <Linforcer> squinn: try installing gentoo.. (not that that's difficult.. but ubuntu is a breeze compared to it)
[04:17] <squinn> well, kvidell, on a whole i'd say it's not
[04:17] <squinn> Linforcer, I'm in Gentoo.
[04:17] <joeinspirit> geetergod, probablly won't matter, usually saying no is good.
[04:17] <LinuxJones> wirjo, type whereis azureus to be sure of where it is. Sometimes apps get installe din different places.
[04:17] <nickrud> geargolem, you have an install cd, I would assume. Now, if I could sit at your machine, I'd make a stab at fixing it, but ...
[04:18] <Linforcer> squinn: then how's ubuntu hard? >.>
[04:18] <geetergod> joeinspirit, still AMP Ltd AUDIO2000
[04:18] <wirjo> azureus is installed in the right dir
[04:18] <squinn> well, i've got gentoo's install down pat
[04:18] <joeinspirit> geetergod, ok let's get medevil.
[04:18] <herbalcomrad> has anyone found a repository for enlightenment DR17?
[04:18] <geetergod> joeinspirit, i never checked what it was when i had the card enabled
[04:18] <squinn> i run a stage3, so i just partition, install system, install kernel, install bootloader
[04:18] <geetergod> joeinspirit, yes please do
[04:18] <joeinspirit> geetergod go to terminal
[04:18] <kvidell> If you're used to one kind of install, the Debian installer can seem a little strange.
[04:18] <Linforcer> squinn: yeah I guess it's what yer used to :P
[04:18] <squinn> with ubuntu, the INSTALL itself is easy
[04:18] <squinn> but
[04:18] <joeinspirit> geetergod, type, cat /proc/asound/cards
[04:18] <geetergod> joeinspirit, im scared, should i be? :)
[04:18] <squinn> only warty has prism2usb built in kernel -- the p2usb that will talk to my card
[04:19] <nickrud> geargolem, by any chance, have you logged into gnome as root?
[04:19] <squinn> so i've gotta install warty, change all sources to hoary and update
[04:19] <geargolem> nickrud, I only want to save my blender files
[04:19] <geetergod> joeinspirit, 0 [AUDIO2000      ] : ICE1724 - AMP Ltd AUDIO2000
[04:19] <geetergod>                      AMP Ltd AUDIO2000 at 0xd800, irq 16
[04:19] <geetergod> \
[04:19] <joeinspirit> geetergod no only a little.
[04:19] <geargolem> nickrud, I aint that new
[04:19] <phillip_> how do i fix the us.archives repos?
[04:19] <nickrud> geargolem, sorry
[04:19] <herbalcomrad> hmm i take that as a no
[04:19] <joeinspirit> hum.. and you say that you've disabled the onboard? geetergod
[04:19] <geargolem> nickrud, lol
[04:19] <synd-> how do i fix the us.archives repos?
[04:19] <Linforcer> squinn: yeah that a bitch.. it's things like that that are the reason I'm in the middle of a gentoo install
[04:19] <geetergod> joeinspirit, yes, should i check again?
[04:19] <nickrud> geargolem, it was my last stab at a distance :)
[04:20] <Linforcer> I plan to stop using ubuntu when I've got a good gentoo running
[04:20] <joeinspirit> well, did you exit and save? or exit and loose all changes?
[04:20] <geetergod> joeinspirit, whats the onboard LAN?
[04:20] <squinn> Linforcer, but Ubuntu gives me stability and freshness. Best NEW files with most stability.
[04:20] <geetergod> joeinspirit, i saw that in there too
[04:20] <joeinspirit> geetergod, its your built in network card
[04:20] <LinuxJones> phillip_, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file and remove the us. part from all of the lines that aren't commented out.
[04:20] <wirjo> LinuxJones - I've checked Azureus' directory and it still wont run...
[04:20] <Linforcer> squinn: Gentoo is unstable?
[04:20] <Octane> any repos that yall recommend other than universe and the rest of the stock ones?
[04:20] <geargolem> nickrud, just tell me this, how do i copy a folder to $mnt/hd2 and reinstall Hoary?
[04:20] <wirjo> LinuxJones - does the Cron thing start right away or do I have to wait a few minutes?
[04:20] <joeinspirit> ok
[04:20] <squinn> Linforcer, not necessarily.
[04:21] <nickrud> geargolem, you have an extra partition available, eh?
[04:21] <squinn> Linforcer, you've got to set package keywords to ~x86, which means unstable
[04:21] <LinuxJones> wirjo, cron will schedule the starting event when you tell it
[04:21] <geargolem> nickrud, yes
[04:21] <squinn> Linforcer, and those are UNSTABLE [aka Breezy]  packages
[04:21] <joeinspirit> geetergod, let me install alsaplayer
[04:21] <geetergod> joeinspirit ok
[04:21] <geetergod> joeinspirit, im not even sure i did
[04:21] <wirjo> LinuxJones - I've done 22 12 * * * /usr/bin/azureus - but its not running...
[04:22] <Linforcer> squinn: ah. I see. maybe you should try arch linux.
[04:22] <geetergod> joeinspirit, or must i already have it?
[04:22] <Ninwa> hello again
[04:22] <Linforcer> squinn: assuming you're not running an AMD64 somewhere
[04:22] <geargolem> $sudo cp /folder/location /new/destination?
[04:22] <Ninwa> I discovered that my wireless card actually doesn't "just work", but I've heard about ndiswrapper, will that work with ubuntu and are there any guides to setting it up?
[04:23] <nickrud> geargolem, just save anything you want to /mnt/hd2, then reinstall. It's not the best solution, but it's one I have used in the past
[04:23] <joeinspirit> geetergod, well I can't get it off apt-get, the repos for it must be donw.
[04:23] <geetergod> ok
[04:23] <geargolem> ok, nickrud thanks.  just to be sure set bios to cdrom for reinstall?
[04:23] <Ninwa> found it in the wiki, nevermind e
[04:23] <Ninwa> me
[04:24] <nickrud> geargolem, silly question, you know that answer :)
[04:24] <geargolem> nickrud, just checkin. :op  thanks, man.
[04:24] <Hackmo> When is the release date for breezy?
[04:24] <geetergod> joeinspirit, i feel that we're gettin close, even if i can just get my old soundcard workin ide be happy
[04:24] <joeinspirit> geetergod, try this chmod -R a+rwX /dev/snd/..
[04:24] <nickrud> geargolem, bol, and remember, it's only software, you can always kill it :)
[04:25] <kvidell> Hackmo: around October 6thish
[04:25] <geetergod> chmod: changing permissions of `/dev/snd/': Operation not permitted
[04:25] <geetergod> chmod: changing permissions of `/dev/snd/pcmC0D0c': Operation not permitted
[04:25] <geetergod> chmod: changing permissions of `/dev/snd/pcmC0D0p': Operation not permitted
[04:25] <geetergod> chmod: changing permissions of `/dev/snd/pcmC0D1p': Operation not permitted
[04:25] <geetergod> chmod: changing permissions of `/dev/snd/timer': Operation not permitted
[04:25] <geetergod> chmod: changing permissions of `/dev/snd/controlC0': Operation not permitted
[04:25] <geargolem> lol, nickrud hardware crumbles pretty easily too
[04:25] <KarlosII> les
[04:25] <Ninwa> does anybody know if the packages ndiswrapper-util is provided with the install cd? the wiki says to open package manager but I want to be assured that it will be there before I wipe this machine and install ubuntu
[04:25] <nickrud> geargolem, no, the hardware is always there, the software just sucks if the hardware is closed
[04:25] <joeinspirit> geetergod, sudo
[04:26] <joeinspirit> sudo chmod -R a+rwX /dev/snd/..
[04:26] <geargolem> nickrud, ah.  I need to learn how to open the hardware
[04:26] <dockane> do i need to run rpcbind on port 111 ? what is that ?
[04:26] <geetergod> geetergod@cpe-66-24-86-121:~$ sudo chmod: changing permissions of `/dev/snd/': Operation not permitted
[04:26] <geetergod> > chmod: changing permissions of `/dev/snd/pcmC0D0c': Operation not permitted
[04:26] <geetergod> > chmod: changing permissions of `/dev/snd/pcmC0D0p': Operation not permitted
[04:26] <geetergod> bash: command substitution: line 1: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `''
[04:26] <geetergod> bash: command substitution: line 3: syntax error: unexpected end of file
[04:26] <Hackmo> kvidell:thanks
[04:26] <nickrud> geargolem, if you have a few million to spare, maybe you can talk to ati :)
[04:26] <LinuxJones> wirjo, did you save it ?
[04:26] <wirjo> LinuxJones - yupp
[04:26] <geargolem> nickrud, complaints?  I have more than a few million
[04:26] <joeinspirit> geetergod, you typed something wrong, it was correct above, just needed sudo
[04:27] <KarlosII> les
[04:27] <KarlosII> les
[04:27] <murphyl> hey
[04:27] <KarlosII> :)
[04:27] <KarlosII> hey
[04:27] <KarlosII> :)
[04:27] <nickrud> geargolem, bucks? then, software in the public interest, the gnome foundation, and a few others would be a good target
[04:27] <murphyl> this is cool
[04:27] <geetergod> sudo chmod -R a+rwX /dev/snd/ had no reply joeinspirit
[04:27] <KarlosII> murphyl, type /join #edmonton-lug as well
[04:27] <KarlosII> :)
[04:28] <KarlosII> murphyl, = noob :P
[04:28] <joeinspirit> geetergod, no news is good news.
[04:28] <geetergod> joeinspirit, so ive learned on here :)
[04:28] <KarlosII> murphyl, ppl are very help ful here :)
[04:29] <geargolem> nickrud, I'd rather eat my hat than not learn Ubuntu
[04:29] <murphyl> I figured they would be
[04:29] <joeinspirit> geetergod, well about all I can say, is remove the card that you added, then reboot, if it asks you if you want to remove the config for the hardware say yes. the check alsamixer,
[04:29] <joeinspirit> actually
[04:30] <joeinspirit> one more thing
[04:30] <joeinspirit> before taht
[04:30] <learning> anyone here mind helping me determine what is causing my system to run so sluggish i suspect some bad settings in hdparm.conf but i'm not sure. my system use to run pretty fast with kde but here lately after about an hour or better of use it seems to "lag" for lack of better words
[04:30] <flodine> a why cant i update synaptic
[04:30] <nickrud> geargolem, hang in there, I did a couple of installs of debian before I got the hang; but once I had it, I never did a reinstall until I was challenged to try ubuntu. I'ts worth the effort
[04:30] <wirjo> LinuxJones - any ideas why it wont run?
[04:30] <joeinspirit> geetergod, ok
[04:30] <geargolem> will do nickrud.  its only a matter of years. :)
[04:30] <joeinspirit> try this
[04:31] <LinuxJones> wirjo, have you set it as your default crontab ?
[04:31] <nickrud> geargolem, no hours, just a lot of them
[04:31] <wirjo> yeah
[04:31] <geetergod> ok
[04:32] <geargolem> seems more reasonable.  Looks like I lost my .blend files anyway, nickrud :(
[04:32] <wirjo> LinuxJones - It still won't work...
[04:32] <sawyer> nobody speaks spanish in this channel?
[04:32] <fr500> sawyer, i do
[04:32] <LinuxJones> wirjo, I don't know dude :(
[04:32] <joeinspirit> geetergod, do you have a mp3 laying around?
[04:32] <wirjo> LinuxJones - :(
[04:33] <LinuxJones> sawyer, join #ubuntu-es
[04:33] <geetergod> joeinspirt, like a song on the computer or one on disk er something?
[04:33] <geargolem> nickrud, how do you cp an entire file?
[04:33] <joeinspirit> geetergod, ya anything just so you can access it.
[04:33] <geargolem> *folder , nickrud
[04:33] <geetergod> maybe, hold on
[04:33] <sawyer> thanks!!!...
[04:33] <nickrud> geargolem, cp filename /where/you/want/it/to/go
[04:34] <geetergod> joeinspirit, yes i do
[04:34] <nickrud> geargolem, cp folder /where/you/want/it/to/go
[04:34] <robert__> geargolem: cp -R /folder /bla/bla
[04:34] <nickrud> thnks robert__ saves me some retyping :)
[04:34] <robert__> yea
[04:34] <geargolem> thnx
[04:35] <magoo> noob q. im trying to install stuff and get md5sum error messages.. how to ignore them and install anyway?
[04:35] <robert__> magoo: you don't ignore them, you download a new ISO
[04:35] <nickrud> magoo, don't ignore them, they're a safety
[04:35] <geargolem> you win this time, Ubuntu!
[04:35] <nickrud> magoo, you using us.archive?
[04:35] <robert__> the ISO you downloaded is corrupt
[04:36] <kvidell> oh sweet jesus
[04:36] <wirjo> stupid cron wont work - I might try out Fedora Core 4
[04:36] <kvidell> oh that almost sucked really bad
[04:36] <kvidell> I had copied the full output from a yum update on my fedora box
[04:36] <kvidell> and right clicked in here on accident
[04:36] <kvidell> luckily I was dragging my mouse at the same time so it just highlighted some other text
[04:36] <magoo> nickrud: yes i just follewed ubuntoguide.org adding repositories
[04:36] <robert__> i cant stand rpm based distros
[04:36] <geetergod> joeinspirit, what should i do with this mp3? its a song on my computer
[04:36] <kvidell> robert__: This is the only one that doesn't make me sad.
[04:37] <nickrud> magoo, us.archive is bad at the moment, just use archive
[04:37] <kvidell> and my interaction with it's RPM side is very limited
[04:37] <robert__> by trying to make it simpler, they make it a lot more difficult
[04:37] <nickrud> magoo, you'll hear on here when it's good again
[04:37] <joeinspirit> geetergod, a wav is probably good too.
[04:37] <fr500> robert__, aren't debs the same idea as rpms?
[04:37] <magoo> nickrud: ok i see
[04:37] <joeinspirit> geetergod infact a wav file would most likely be better.
[04:37] <geetergod> joeinspirit, what do i do with it?
[04:37] <kvidell> fr500: it's more the implementation that makes it difficult to use
[04:37] <fr500> oh
[04:37] <joeinspirit> geetergod, ok you have wave file?
[04:37] <fr500> well you can use yum or synapti
[04:37] <fr500> c
[04:38] <kvidell> the deb system is much more well managed than the rpm ones at this point, what with the dependancy solving
[04:38] <fr500> ah
[04:38] <Stew2> 
[04:38] <Stew2> 
[04:38] <Stew2> 
[04:38] <squinn> aah
[04:38] <Stew2> 
[04:38] <Stew2> 
[04:38] <keikoz> humm
[04:38] <kvidell> even with synaptic there' sstill some pretty hairy issues with deps
[04:38] <Stew2> sorry
[04:38] <kvidell> lol
[04:38] <Th4tBa5t4rd> nice
[04:38] <nickrud> ew stevegriff what's up?
[04:38] <squinn> What happened, Stew2?
[04:38] <geetergod> joeinspirit, i have mp3 and wma's
[04:38] <joeinspirit> alsaplayer -d hw0:0 (they syntax might need adjusting.
[04:38] <kvidell> I was waiting for another "WINDOWS TEAM!!"
[04:38] <Stew2> < went to sleep at the keyboard.
[04:38] <nickrud> eh, sorry stevegriff
[04:38] <KarlosII> stew2 enough
[04:38] <squinn> nickrud, that's Steve2
[04:38] <squinn> lol
[04:38] <nickrud> lol
[04:38] <joeinspirit> geetergod, hum... not sure if alsaplayer can handle that but try mp3
[04:38] <joeinspirit> wma won't work
[04:38] <Stew2> karlosII Like I said. zzzz... sorry
[04:39] <geetergod> joeinspirit, what do u mean try it?
[04:39] <Stew2> I must have had my hand on the space bar?
[04:39] <joeinspirit> go to the terminal
[04:39] <joeinspirit> then
[04:39] <robert__> Stew2: and then hit the up button and enter button three times in a row
[04:39] <robert__> lol
[04:39] <joeinspirit> alsaplayer -d hw=0:0 mymp3file.mp3
[04:39] <robert__> "on accident"
[04:39] <Stew2> I guess....
[04:39] <nickrud> Stew2, we'll take any excuse for that one :)
[04:40] <robert__> gotta make some dinner
[04:40] <robert__> spagetti tonight
[04:40] <robert__> bbl
[04:40] <Stew2> I was wondering why the keyboard was 'jammed'.
[04:41] <Stew2> nickrud I updated the package list, and gzip returned an error on one of the package.gz files. How do I delete it? (where is the cache stored?)
[04:41] <geetergod> joeinspirit, but i type in the name of my mp3?
[04:42] <nickrud> Stew2, you don't want to do that, really.
[04:42] <Th4tBa5t4rd> sticky keyboards? o_O
[04:42] <joeinspirit> geetergod yup
[04:42] <Stew2> nickrud Well, then every time I update it keeps telling me gzip returned an error. It doesn't want to re-download the file though...
[04:42] <joeinspirit> what I ment by the syntax might be wrong is that that -d hw... part might need some changing.
[04:42] <nickrud> Stew2, it's in /var/lib/apt/lists,  but, there's something else wrong, I would think
[04:43] <nickrud> gotta feed the cat, he's nosing around
[04:43] <geetergod> joeinspirit - geetergod@cpe-66-24-86-121:~$ alsaplayer -d hw=0:0 Metallica-And Justice For All.mp3
[04:43] <geetergod> Failed to load output plugin "alsa". Trying defaults.
[04:43] <thoreauputic> Stew2: the error is probably on the server, not your machine
[04:44] <Stew2> nickrud, Huh. Well how do I clear the cache and have it re-download the package lists?
[04:44] <joeinspirit> geetergod.... uhm..... /me brain is tired.
[04:44] <geetergod> joeinspirit, me too, been doing this for 2 day
[04:44] <geetergod> days
[04:45] <geetergod> joeinspirit, i'll just unplug the new card and reboot
[04:45] <joeinspirit> geetergod yes that would be good to try.
[04:45] <joeinspirit> reboot, with it not in there
[04:45] <joeinspirit> , then reboot with it back in.
[04:45] <geetergod> joeinspirit, thanks a  ton, i think we got close :)
[04:45] <geetergod> joeinspirit, yah, ill turn off the computer and pull out the card and start back up
[04:47] <nickrud> Stew2, could you paste the complete error on pastebin.com?
[04:47] <geetergod> joeinspirit, thanks again, i'll see you around and i'll let ya know how it went :)
[04:48] <nickrud> geetergod, ah, surgery :)
[04:48] <joeinspirit> geetergod ok gl
[04:48] <geetergod> nickrud, you bloodthirsty pig :)
[04:48] <nickrud> lol\
[04:48] <geetergod> here goes <poof>
[04:49] <nickrud> !rootsudo
[04:49] <ubotu> rootsudo is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[04:50] <squinn> question, linux in general
[04:50] <squinn> i want to use this gigantic partition in ubuntu
[04:50] <nickrud> sorry, I'll leave it alone
[04:50] <squinn> and i'd format it with the install
[04:50] <squinn> BUT
[04:50] <squinn> there's one directory on there i wish to keep
[04:51] <squinn> how do i get that one directory to stay on there
[04:51] <squinn> wait, i've got idea
[04:51] <seth_k> squinn: e-mail it to yourself or something
[04:51] <nickrud> squinn, if you format a partition during the install, that directory will be history
[04:51] <squinn> nickrud, correct
[04:51] <squinn> seth_k, it's too big
[04:52] <squinn> nickrud, i want to save this directory
[04:52] <seth_k> pr0n eh
[04:52] <seth_k> :D
[04:52] <seth_k> j/k
[04:52] <misfit-toy> 5
[04:52] <squinn> seth_k, that gets formatted over.
[04:52] <IcemanV9> squinn: burn it to CDRW
[04:52] <misfit-toy> hheh
[04:52] <squinn> different CDRW  then the ISO?
[04:52] <nickrud> squinn, email it to root, and it shouldn't go through your provider
[04:53] <nickrud> :)
[04:53] <IcemanV9> just burn it to CD, format the partition, then copy it back from CD disc
[04:53] <misfit-toy> send it to gmail
[04:53] <IcemanV9> only if you're nervous
[04:54] <Amaranth> use one of those 'gmail filesystem' things and copy it all over :)
[04:54] <hondje> Amaranth: do the devs want core files, or the goodies from them?
[04:54] <nickrud> squinn, the only practical answer I know is IcemanV9 's, although gmail filesystem's seems rather 'interesting'
[04:54] <hondje> for bugzilla
[04:54] <misfit-toy> copy it down on paper then re enter it'
[04:54] <Amaranth> hondje: what?
[04:55] <Linforcer> what's a dog doing in an irc channel
[04:55] <Amaranth> dog?
[04:55] <hondje> When submitting a bug to bugzilla, do the devs want core files, or do the want what is in them?
[04:55] <Amaranth> hondje: i don't understand what you mean
[04:55] <Stew2> OKay. I deleted the files and it's working again. I'm pretty sure it was a modem error.
[04:55] <Linforcer> hondje = dutch for doggy
[04:56] <hondje> Amaranth: when you segfault and dump a core
[04:56] <nickrud> Stew2, I've done that, it's a major hack, I just didn't want to recommend it :)
[04:56] <Stew2> Linforcer, Can you post a phonetic english version?
[04:57] <Amaranth> hondje: attach them to the bug
[04:57] <geetergod> joeinspirit, u still here?
[04:57] <Linforcer> Stew2: xD why?
[04:57] <Amaranth> hondje: if you think it's a config file issue attach those too
[04:57] <Amaranth> hondje: and any error logs
[04:57] <hondje> Amaranth: okay, thanks. Sorry to be so vauge asking about it
[04:57] <Arrogant> Hey, what are the chances of getting the sound card part of a sound card / modem duplex working?
[04:58] <Linforcer> Stew2: "honchuh" is probably closest :P
[04:58] <hondje> or snoodaard
[04:59] <Linforcer> xD
[04:59] <dennis_> guys, is there a way to release certain IRQ without reboot or going to BIOS? I am trying to install a driver using ndiswrapper and it is tryingn to assign IRQ 10 which is used by eth0
[04:59] <zerokills> you guys know any other good IRC channels?
[05:00] <Linforcer> zerokills: as far as I know all channels function equally well
[05:00] <dr_willis> well the #HOTLINUXBABES is good. :P
[05:00] <Linforcer> xkD
[05:00] <zerokills> heh
[05:00] <Linforcer> what about *thegoodircchannel
[05:01] <dr_willis>  /join #Good
[05:01] <Linforcer> #thegoodircchannel
[05:01] <dr_willis> :P
[05:01] <Arrogant> dr_willis, somebody got there first! And I really wanted that channel.
[05:01] <Linforcer> haha
[05:01] <Linforcer> instead of asl
[05:01] <Koala> I'm running Kubuntu 5.04PPC on a g3 laptop...Many of the window title bars have graphic corruption.. vertical bars or dots.. once in a while the entire colors of the screen look psychadelic, and on certain parts of the screen there is corruption where the mouse moves.. ie) in the letters of kubuntu on the desktop when i move the mouse there it fills up with blue pixels..
[05:01] <Linforcer> idt be asld
[05:01] <Arrogant> Linforcer, distro?
[05:01] <nickrud> hah, typing for years has finally got me something :)
[05:01] <Linforcer> yup
[05:01] <Arrogant> hey baby, distro
[05:01] <Linforcer> :P
[05:02] <Koala> Anyone have ideas as to why?  Switch to 16 colors gets rid of the mouse movement corruption but the window title bars persist.
[05:02] <Linforcer> "21 f UK SuSE"
[05:02] <Linforcer> SuSE ew no way
[05:02] <Linforcer> I'm cybering someone else man
[05:02] <Arrogant> debian at least come on baby
[05:02] <Linforcer> xD
[05:03] <Linforcer> "any hawt gentoo chix?"
[05:03] <Arrogant> ... I should go over to sexnet and ask that
[05:03] <Arrogant> And log the reactions...
[05:03] <Th4tBa5t4rd> hawt chix run slax
[05:03] <Arrogant> call it a case study
[05:03] <Linforcer> haha
[05:03] <Th4tBa5t4rd> meh. hot chicks like to fsck
[05:03] <Th4tBa5t4rd> :-|
[05:03] <Amaranth> Ok guys, that's a bit much.
[05:04] <Linforcer> I remember wondering on #planeshift-build how many linux useres women there were
[05:04] <Linforcer> everyone at the same time were like
[05:04] <Linforcer> 7
[05:04] <Th4tBa5t4rd> i know 3 of them myself and have asked them for help in the last week
[05:05] <Linforcer> heh
[05:05] <Arrogant> Haha, channel registered.
[05:05] <Linforcer> I know some female firefox users but it ends there
[05:05] <Linforcer> and I introduces 4 of 5 to it
[05:05] <nickrud> Arrogant, it's all your's
[05:05] <geetergod> joeinspirit, u here?
[05:05] <ernesto> good night everyone
[05:05] <Arrogant> nickrud, I shall keep it all to myself I'm sure
[05:05] <Linforcer> just not my mom. because my dad beat me to it
[05:05] <Th4tBa5t4rd> i have both of my ex's running firefox/thunderbird... because i am everyone's windowz tech
[05:06] <ernesto> whats the channel's language
[05:06] <nickrud> Arrogant, nah, I'll check in now and then, see how empty it is :)
[05:06] <Linforcer> oh right
[05:06] <Linforcer> both my ex's too
[05:06] <Linforcer> :D
[05:06] <Arrogant> :D
[05:06] <Linforcer> and my current too ^^
[05:06] <geetergod> nickrud, now nothing works, no volume control, no alsaimxer.. :(
[05:06] <Th4tBa5t4rd> my current SFO already used firefox :-D
[05:07] <nickrud> geetergod, then, I would go back to the working sound card, not all hardware is kind to linux
[05:07] <Linforcer> my current didnt even know other browsers existed
[05:07] <mac2> Hello
[05:07] <scanwinder_> ive forgotten howto uninstall autopackages...........i want to uninstall gaim........
[05:07] <geetergod> nickrud, i did didnt have nothing there either
[05:07] <ernesto> can someone help me? i have just installed ubuntu on my hard disk
[05:07] <scanwinder_> anyone know how 2 uninstall them?
[05:07] <geetergod> nickrud, and this soundcard did work before
[05:07] <Linforcer> she's a smart girl but she knows less than 0 about computers
[05:07] <Th4tBa5t4rd> scanwinder. find it in Synaptic
[05:07] <Arrogant> Linforcer, you'd be surprised how many there are like that ><
[05:07] <nickrud> geetergod, we're over my head here, and, well, I've seen experts have problems with your setup
[05:08] <geetergod> nickrud, ok :(
[05:08] <scanwinder_> it dosent show in synaptic
[05:08] <Th4tBa5t4rd> i got my sound finally working following the wiki...lucky me
[05:08] <ernesto> why ubuntu freezes when i open more than 1 program?
[05:08] <Linforcer> Arrogant: heh yeah. I come from a pc family. My dad introduced me to Mozilla before even (atthe time) PYhoenix came out
[05:08] <Arrogant> Linforcer, I used Mozilla once I think
[05:09] <Linforcer> Arrogant: when whe still had dial up he was downloading FreeBSD with it
[05:09] <Th4tBa5t4rd> scanwinder_, is it in add/remove programs under Applications>System Tools?
[05:09] <regeya> heh
[05:09] <Arrogant> Linforcer, I downloaded Warty on dialup :(
[05:09] <scanwinder_> no
[05:09] <Arrogant> I'm still running it.
[05:09] <regeya> I once downloaded freebsd via dialup
[05:09] <regeya> that was insane
[05:09] <Arrogant> How big is FreeBSD?
[05:09] <Th4tBa5t4rd> i used Moz suite for a while
[05:09] <ernesto> plz, someone can help me? where should i post my question?
[05:09] <Linforcer> Arrogant: I didnt use warty for long. it didnt work well enough yet
[05:09] <nickrud> Arrogant, kudos, that takes persistence
[05:09] <IcemanV9> scanwinder: system tools > manage 3rd party software
[05:09] <regeya> also once spent an afternoon back in college downloading slackware disksets and writing them to floppy
[05:10] <Arrogant> nickrud: You know it. Download manager.
[05:10] <Linforcer> Arrogant: I didnt say goodbye to windows full till Hoary
[05:10] <Linforcer> anyway
[05:10] <Arrogant> Linforcer, I still use XP as my main OS
[05:10] <regeya> misfit-toy: considering how much things have changed since I first installed Slack 9 years ago...
[05:10] <Linforcer> Arrogant: ouch, gaming?
[05:10] <Arrogant> There's too much downloading to do for Warty and this computer sucks
[05:10] <thoreauputic> ernesto: maybe tell us a bit more: or see what errors you get starting a program from the terminal
[05:10] <Th4tBa5t4rd> i'm still dualbooted and will be unless there's a linux native app for my games
[05:10] <nickrud> Arrogant, aptitude -d install
[05:11] <Arrogant> And in order to upgrade to Hoary, I don't even want to think
[05:11] <misfit-toy> regeya, I remember IBM punch cards for computing, try that on.
[05:11] <Linforcer> Arrogant: still dial up then?
[05:11] <Arrogant> nickrud, what's that?
[05:11] <Arrogant> Linforcer, yeah.
[05:11] <Arrogant> The second I get broadband I'll upgrade.
[05:11] <Linforcer> Arrogant: that sucks. order some hoary cds free?
[05:11] <scanwinder> IcemanV9, im actually using ubuntu and, it dosent have "manage 3rd party software" there
[05:11] <ernesto> ok thoreau
[05:11] <Arrogant> Linforcer, that takes months
[05:11] <scanwinder> *kubuntu
[05:11] <scanwinder> oops
[05:11] <nickrud> Arrogant, it's getting packages downloaded, not installed (overnight) so you can watch them when the install during the day (scriptable with cron)
[05:11] <Arrogant> I ordered Warty and they came... long after I downloaded
[05:11] <Linforcer> Arrogant: mine took 6 weeks.. but can't hurt, can it? ;)
[05:12] <Th4tBa5t4rd> i'm running ubuntu and i don't have "manage third party apps" either
[05:12] <thoreauputic> ernesto: you know haoe to run a program from terminal, right?
[05:12] <Arrogant> nickrud, I've already got apt-get set up to do it.
[05:12] <thoreauputic> *how
[05:12] <ernesto> ok thoreau
[05:12] <nickrud> Arrogant, so, what's keeping you from breezy ;)
[05:12] <IcemanV9> scanwinder: i am running ubuntu as well
[05:12] <ernesto> i'm running a terminal window now
[05:13] <nickrud> heh, typo
[05:13] <Linforcer> aaaannnyway
[05:13] <Arrogant> nickrud, I think I'll go hoary and wait a while for breezy ;)
[05:13] <Stew2> ernesto, how to run an app from a terminal?
[05:13] <inc595> I finally got dvd's to play in xine.. anyone know how to get xine to play when a dvd is loaded rather then totem?
[05:13] <thoreauputic> ernesto: so what happens with errors if you start up a program?
[05:13] <Stew2> ernesto, gedit, aptitude, nautilus...
[05:13] <nickrud> Arrogant, lol, that's what I meant, breezy follows hoary, which is what I run
[05:13] <regeya> misfit-toy: oh yeah?  well, mine is much larger, and in addition is has more girth, and I can lift cinder blocks with it.
[05:13] <Linforcer> back to reading. also anyone who wants a quick giggle that hasnt seen this yet. check out the new fragrance by Linus Torvalds http://img10.echo.cx/img10/4121/root0zx.swf
[05:14] <ernesto> well, when i star more than one program ubuntu freezes
[05:14] <scanwinder> IcemanV9, i meant kubuntu
[05:14] <ernesto> the hard drive starts an infinite reading
[05:14] <Stew2> inc595, Yeah, I'd remove the totem package anyway... I can't remember where to set the default, however having totem installed....
[05:14] <scanwinder> IcemanV9, it I missed out the K lol
[05:14] <thoreauputic> ernesto: we know that - I'm trying to get some error message to work with
[05:14] <ernesto> the red led never stop
[05:14] <IcemanV9> scanwinder: well. that does make sense. :)
[05:14] <ernesto> ah,ok
[05:15] <ernesto> thoreau now i know what you want
[05:15] <misfit-toy> regeya, it's not a pissing contest, it just cracks me up to hear 'war stories' from like 5 years ago;
[05:15] <Stew2> memory issues?
[05:15] <scanwinder> Isn't there a command to remove autopackages??
[05:15] <inc595> Stew2, it works for a fast mp3 player so i'll keep it .. just need to have xine play dvds.. mplayer doen't like 'em lol
[05:15] <IcemanV9> scanwinder: i do have autopackage & gaim listed in 'manage 3rd party software' app; so that's why i passed this info to ya
[05:15] <Arrogant> I'm going to start my download and then stop the job when I need to
[05:15] <thoreauputic> ernesto: you're from brasil, right? Why not /join #ubuntu-pt ?
 regeya, I remember IBM punch cards for computing, try that on.  <- OK, your dick is bigger, let's move on. ;-)
[05:16] <ernesto> thoreau, thanks im going to ubunto-pt
[05:16] <misfit-toy> regeya, your perception, not my intention
[05:16] <scanwinder> IcemanV9, do you know what the program that does "manage 3rd party software" is called?
[05:16] <thoreauputic> ernesto: hmm - hardly anyone there
[05:16] <scanwinder> IcemanV9, maybe i can install it
[05:16] <IcemanV9> scanwinder: that was it called. :)
[05:17] <thoreauputic> ernesto: sorry - no one there, right?
[05:17] <regeya> heh..............
[05:17] <ernesto> thoreau, it true
[05:17] <ernesto> nobody there
[05:17] <jmacs> i have an lcd and when i do `dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[05:17] <Arrogant> ack foreign characters
[05:17] <jmacs> it seems to assume it is a crt assigning refresh rates
[05:17] <regeya> misfit-toy is clearly older than me--how many people here are old enough to remember 8" floppies?
[05:18] <thoreauputic> ernesto: only 5 in #ubuntu-br as well...
[05:18] <dennis_> does anyone know how to release irq?
[05:18] <ernesto> thoreau, it true
[05:18] <IcemanV9> scanwinder: check out autopackage website -> http://autopackage.org/faq.html#2_3
[05:18] <jadam> hi
[05:18] <jadam> how do I check how much freespace I have left on my ubuntu partition?
[05:18] <Arrogant> Anyone know a good MUD client for Linux?
[05:19] <hondje> jadam: df -h
[05:19] <jadam> when I right click on my filesystem and go to properties, it shows -- for free space
[05:19] <jadam> thanks
[05:19] <Arrogant> zMUD doesn't run under Wine, I'm upset.
[05:19] <Arrogant> Since I paid money for it.
[05:19] <misfit-toy> Arrogant, there are hundreds of them at http://freshmeat.net
[05:19] <regeya> in the younger crowds I usually run into people who say "8 in floppies WTF you're making that up"
[05:19] <jmacs> i remember the xfree86 xserver on debian had an option for subpixel rendering if the monitor was a floppy
[05:19] <jmacs> err
[05:19] <jmacs> s/floppy/lcd/
[05:20] <Stew2> how would i start PPPD automatically when starting ubuntu?
[05:20] <mac2> LIST
[05:20] <Stew2> keikoz, zzzz night
[05:20] <scanwinder> IcemanV9, that says there isnt an uninstall utility............
[05:20] <keikoz> :)
[05:20] <learning> can someone please do me a favor and post their hdparm.conf file to pastebin?
[05:20] <Arrogant> regeya, back when floppies were actually floppy? :)
[05:21] <thoreauputic> mac2: heh - this isn't a warez channel
[05:21] <regeya> indeed
[05:21] <Amaranth> 8" floppies?
[05:21] <Amaranth> those are before my time
[05:21] <Amaranth> used those on PDPs or something, didn't you?
[05:21] <joeinspirit> 8" are getting back there.
[05:21] <regeya> I remember 3 1/2" disks really confused computer-illiterate people
[05:21] <Amaranth> 5 1/2" were my first
[05:21] <regeya> "So anyway I stuck my hard disk in the drive"
[05:22] <inc595> learning, where u need it?
[05:22] <ernesto> thoreau and everyone: im completely newbie in linux. i installed ubuntu on a partition and it runs well but i just can open one program. i cant open gaim and firefox at same time,for example
[05:22] <regeya> ahh yes
[05:22] <misfit-toy> regeya, I didn't mean to get off on the wrong foot with you, I sincerely am just amazed at people who have been computing for so little time sounding like hardened vets, it cracks me up....I will withdraw my little jibe and hope to one day have a beer with you.
[05:22] <learning> inc595, nevermind i got it someone else sent it
[05:22] <regeya> remember using a cassette on a ti...don't remember the model
[05:22] <learning> this seems really slow for a hd does it not ?
[05:22] <hondje> I was using it on our C64
[05:22] <learning> /dev/hda:
[05:22] <learning>  Timing cached reads:   368 MB in  2.02 seconds = 182.12 MB/sec
[05:22] <learning>  Timing buffered disk reads:   48 MB in  3.04 seconds =  15.80 MB/sec
[05:22] <nickrud> a couple of times, just to get data off them :)
[05:23] <hondje> thoreauputic: I remember punch cards too....about 6 months ago :-(
[05:23] <regeya> misfit-toy: eh, whatever.  I thought the talk of "pre-phoenix mozilla" was pretty hilarious, but just threw in my bit just b/c I thought to myself, wow, things have changed in my short(!) time with linux
[05:23] <ernesto> thoreau, so when i try open 2 programs at same time,  the computer freezes and the hd runs and dont stop until i reset the coumputer
[05:24] <inc595> k
[05:24] <nickrud> ernesto, in my limited experience, that makes no sense
[05:25] <ernesto> why, nickrud
[05:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> hey ppl, whats the easiest way to find what modules a SATA Hard drive uses?
[05:25] <thoreauputic> ernesto: yes, but that doesn't tell us much - that's why i asked you to try running a program from the terminal - try something like "nautilus' or "gedit"
[05:25] <regeya> it doesn't seem that long ago since cd-rom drives were an extravegance, really, and windows was a waste of hd space and a memory hog...erm, wait.
[05:25] <thoreauputic> ernesto: hopefully you will see some error output ?
[05:25] <misfit-toy> regeya, you should have seen windows 1.0
[05:25] <ernesto> thoreau, how can i do it using terminal
[05:25] <regeya> I did.  it was horrid.
[05:25] <nickrud> ernesto, it's really weird, as thoreauputic says, try running some stuff from the terminal
[05:25] <misfit-toy> regeya, black and white and ugly as my mama
[05:26] <thoreauputic> ernesto: or run "top" in a terminal and see what is eating your resources
[05:26] <regeya> people complain about modern macs; wonder what they did when MacOS could only run one app at a time?
[05:26] <concept10> misfit-toy, you using ubuntu these days?
[05:26] <regeya> as in, finder and macwrite couldn't run at the same time
[05:26] <dr_willis> regeya,  they bought a lot of macs. :P
[05:26] <regeya> so these things called 'file dialogs' were put into the system
[05:26] <misfit-toy> concept10, hey buddio, I have it on my spare laptop, wassup?
[05:27] <dr_willis> regeya,  or they dident think they needed to run those things.
[05:27] <ernesto> ok i typed top in a terminal window
[05:27] <ernesto> it showing many data
[05:27] <thoreauputic> ernesto: what is at the top of the list?
[05:27] <misfit-toy> concept10, this laptop goes thru about 3 distros a month, I like to check them all out, but I'm still a fedoralito at heart.
[05:27] <concept10> misfit-toy, nothing much, I have it on my laptop now, put fc on desktop
[05:28] <bob_> do I need to install a printer driver?  Print command says print to Generic Postscript,  but nothing happens...   should I rtfm or is there a simple answer?
[05:28] <concept10> fedoralito, lol
[05:28] <ernesto> thoreau,  root
[05:28] <misfit-toy> concept10, I have to say tho, ubuntu is very nice on the resources, it's quick and never hits swap.
[05:28] <ernesto> thoreau, 6030 root
[05:28] <seth_k> bob_: sure, you need to install your printer before using it
[05:28] <concept10> it id
[05:28] <concept10> is
[05:28] <thoreauputic> ernesto: no, that's the user - read the entry on the right that tells you which program is using the most
[05:28] <bob_> ok seth,  is that a system program?
[05:29] <concept10> misfit-toy, I still have a couple of things to get working on here but overall its surprisingly good
[05:29] <ernesto> thoreau, xorg
[05:29] <regeya> I work with people who say they can't keep track of a light schedule because we don't have an office-wide calendaring/messaging system.  Hate to keep bringing you into this, misfit-toy, but am I crazy or aren't calendaring systems a modern invention? ;-)
[05:29] <thoreauputic> ernesto: like X, or gdm or whatever
[05:29] <inc595> so anyone know how to edit what program loads a dvd?
[05:29] <thoreauputic> ernesto: OK - what is the next entry?
[05:29] <misfit-toy> concept10, yeah, the debian backdrop is hard to get used to!
[05:30] <ernesto> thoreau, first is xorg, next is xchat
[05:30] <hondje> inc595: you mean when you insert it, so it runs magically?
[05:30] <ernesto> but it changes constantly
[05:30] <ernesto> xorg is the first, ever
[05:30] <thoreauputic> ernesto: can you see how much CPU xorg is using?
[05:30] <misfit-toy> regeya, there were primitive calendaring apps from way back, but as far as that goes you have to get to when networking became 'prominent' in the office.
[05:30] <slicslak> inc595, check your gnome settings.  somewhere.....
[05:30] <inc595> hondje, yeah automagically.. right now totem tries to play it
[05:30] <concept10> misfit-toy, ahh yes.. the dark side of the force
[05:30] <misfit-toy> regeya, which in my mind happened really *prominently* in the '90's
[05:30] <ernesto> thoreau, yes its 1.0 or 0.7
[05:31] <misfit-toy> concept10, heh
[05:31] <fr500> ernesto, what is the overall cpu usage, i had a similar problem recently
[05:31] <regeya> thin clients...heh, I think it'd be funny to introduce a system as a 'thin client architecture' and install terminals on peoples' desks.
[05:31] <ernesto> thoreau, where i can see total cpu usage ?
[05:31] <thoreauputic> ernesto: hmm - I think you are looking in the wrong place - what % is xorg using?
[05:31] <hondje> inc595: in gnome, go system -> preferences -> removable drives and multimedia, click 'multimedia' tab
[05:32] <concept10> I need to enable a root account, im tired of typing sudo
[05:32] <misfit-toy> regeya, hit sourceforge and check the ultimate light easy to use 'webcalendar', I believe it's number 9 on the most downloaded list on the left.
[05:32] <hondje> inc595: for xine, I use xine --auto-play --auto-scan dvd
[05:32] <inc595> hondje, ah.. you are a lifesaver .. lol thanx
[05:32] <misfit-toy> concept10, lmao, I KNOW
[05:32] <hondje> inc595: No problem
[05:32] <thoreauputic> concept10: then just type sudo -s, and you'll have a root shell
[05:32] <misfit-toy> ok, cigar time, concept10 knows my routine...bbiab
[05:33] <misfit-toy> ;p
[05:33] <inc595> ok gotta test it.. wish me luck
[05:33] <regeya> gaim???!?
[05:33] <ernesto> thoreau, xorg %cpu = 0.74  %mem = 15.3
[05:33] <SeamusLP> concept10:  want to know a little trick?
[05:33] <SeamusLP> concept10:  sudo bash ;)
[05:33] <darshu> SeamusLP:   Better yet.  sudo -s
[05:33] <ernesto> thoreau, it's my stats
[05:34] <inc595> hondje, it's works quite nicely
[05:34] <SeamusLP> darshu:  Ah yes, it is even better
[05:34] <hondje> inc595: Glad to hear :) Never gives me trouble
[05:34] <thoreauputic> ernesto: OK that's fine then - at the top where it says CPU(s): - what does that line show?
[05:35] <concept10> I know that trick, I mean just being in a password less root enviroment is usefull to me
[05:35] <ernesto> 1.0%us   0.3sys 0.0ni 99id 0.0wa 0.0hi 0.0si
[05:35] <WiredMunkey> how do i get the wpaclient to install? it is saying md5sum mismatch
[05:35] <mae> Anyone happen to get *any* suspend or hibernation working with an hp zd7000
[05:35] <WiredMunkey> when i try to install with eithe synaptic or command line apt-get
[05:35] <fr500> ernesto, new instalation?
[05:36] <inc595> hondje, well I was just setting it up .. what a pain to get dvd support on ubuntu... this is my family computer .. used to run windoze on it but this nasty virus shot up cpu usage to 100% all the time .. so gave me an excuse to put ubuntu on it
[05:36] <quam> suspend and hibernation are evil :p
[05:36] <seth_k> WiredMunkey: switch repo's
[05:36] <ernesto> yes
[05:36] <seth_k> WiredMunkey: US and CA archives are b0rked right now
[05:36] <fr500> ernesto, mine started habinf probs after i did some wacky recompiles
[05:36] <thoreauputic> ernesto: hmm - that loos normal as well - yet everything freezes if you run another app ?
[05:36] <seth_k> WiredMunkey: switch /etc/apt/sources.list to use http://archive.ubuntu.com for now
[05:36] <WiredMunkey> ah to which one?
[05:36] <thoreauputic> *looks
[05:36] <hondje> inc595: dvd caused me a bit of work, too...that part I ran into while digging around gnome
[05:36] <WiredMunkey> okay
[05:36] <mae> quam: from what i've gotten going, the only thing I can really do with my laptop is shut it completely down.. not very good for mobility
[05:36] <ernesto> thoreau, see my swap status
[05:37] <ernesto> 0k total, 0k used, 0k free, 20000k cached
[05:37] <inc595> hondje, yeah this is the first box with more then 500MHz cpu power that's i've run ubuntu on.. so much faster
[05:38] <hondje> inc595: just remember to have dma going for your dvd drive, much smoother
[05:38] <ernesto> Memory 110812 total   108788 used     2008 free    356 buffers
[05:38] <thoreauputic> ernesto: 0k free? how much swap do you have?
[05:38] <quam> mae: search synaptic for laptop
[05:38] <inc595> hondje, yeah set that up from the FAQ's
[05:38] <lynx913> Hello. Can anyone help? i'd like to know if the timing of a subtitle could be changed in Xine, VLC, or totem. Because the subtitles is not synchronized with the Audio/Video.
[05:38] <inc595> dvd is running like a champ
[05:38] <quam> mae: i believe there are some laptop packages that improve hibernation/suspend functionality
[05:38] <ernesto> thoreau, when i created the ubuntu partition i didnt created the swap partion
[05:39] <lynx913> By the way, the subtitles is an external .srt file.
[05:39] <thoreauputic> ernesto: :/
[05:39] <mae> quam: thanks for the lead
[05:39] <ernesto> i tried to do it later using partition magic
[05:39] <thoreauputic> ernesto: why? because you thought you had plenty of RAM?
[05:39] <quam> sorry to be one of those jackasses that send you somewhere else :P but that's all i can think of.
[05:39] <quam> im a noob here though, stick around and maybe someone else can help
[05:39] <mae> :)
[05:39] <ernesto> no... im just a noob and i forget about it
[05:39] <mae> i'm actually using kubuntu, but only difference is desktop..
[05:40] <thoreauputic> ernesto: I think that might be the problem... not sure though
[05:40] <quam> yeah, i loaded kubuntu, came back to gnome :p
[05:40] <ernesto> using partition magic at windows xp i tried to repair the error but i dont know i had success
[05:40] <osynic> anyone know why I keep getting errors like this?
[05:40] <thoreauputic> ernesto: if it's a new install, maybe the easiest thing is to try again (I know that's a windowsish solution)
[05:41] <osynic> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libu/libusb/libusb-dev_0.1.8-17ubuntu2_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[05:41] <mae> I was a gnome guy for a long time, but the development is stagnant when you compare it too kde.. i was on the *general* mailing list for gnome-dev and i get maybe a few emails every month.. kde has tons of activity i get like 50 emails a day just from kopete-dev
[05:41] <seth_k> osynic: us archive is messed up
[05:41] <seth_k> osynic: use http://archive.ubuntu.com for now
[05:41] <osynic> k
[05:41] <seth_k> osynic: you can switch that in /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:41] <ernesto> thoreau, should i redo the ubuntu install  ?
[05:42] <quam> mae: my problem is im gullable. i've let people convince me t switch back and forth between the two about 20 times already :P
[05:42] <thoreauputic> ernesto: well, it might be easier for you  to do that , since you are new to Ubuntu
[05:42] <thoreauputic> ernesto: it's hard to fix it on IRC, anyway
[05:42] <Ninwa> Hello, I just installed ubuntu and when it seemed to have gone well but when I booted up and did startx I get an error saying X couldn't be found
[05:42] <mae> quam: kde4 looks _very_ promising.
[05:42] <ernesto> should i have 3 partitions :  windows xp, ubuntu and a swap partition ?
[05:42] <mae> they are going to establish HIG
[05:42] <mae> just like gnome
[05:42] <mae> (human interface guidelines)
[05:42] <thoreauputic> ernesto: yes - the installer should make the swap for you
[05:42] <quam> glad you said what that was :P otherwise it was over my head
[05:43] <ernesto> ok...
[05:43] <quam> afk2smoke :P
[05:43] <ernesto> thoreau, dont worry... reinstall will be easy to me...
[05:44] <ernesto> I hope dont forget about swap again :-)
[05:44] <Ninwa> no server "X" found, and it goes on to say that a possible server is Xorg...
[05:45] <IcemanV9> ernesto: you don't have to reinstall winxp .. ya know. just ubuntu. also, thoreauputic just said that the installer WILL create a swap partition for ya. :)
[05:45] <nonix> aku bisa gabung?
[05:45] <ernesto> iceman, ok
[05:45] <nonix> testing
[05:45] <bob_> do I have to restart ubuntu for it to recognize a USB printer?
[05:46] <kanzen> hi again. I'm getting an md5mismatch when installing dpkg-dev. apt-cache show says the md5 checksum should be 01ea0fecc30265a3930f4c9c53479e72 but the actual checksum is 1ec650bc88a9594f0296552fd644176c
[05:46] <^thehatsrule^> bob_, i doubt it
[05:46] <IIIEars> bob_ - no - you should be fine.
[05:46] <duende> kanzen: i came in for the same problem, just with different packages
[05:46] <ernesto> iceman and thoreau, but i dont remember about installer making any question to me about create a swap partition... how does it happe? 4
[05:46] <Th4tBa5t4rd> us respositories have been having issues for a couple days now
[05:46] <seth_k> kanzen: us archive is borked
[05:46] <seth_k> kanzen: switch to http://archive.ubuntu.com
[05:47] <seth_k> duende, same for you :P
[05:47] <bob_> which program sets up the printer driver?  I dont see an icon in system setup section
[05:47] <kanzen> seth_k: thanks!
[05:47] <mae> linux acpi is borked :(
[05:47] <Th4tBa5t4rd> look up adding repositories and change to uk or some such
[05:47] <IIIEars> bob_ - the only real reason to restart linux is to update the system kernel. - Unless you want too ;)
[05:47] <thoreauputic> ernesto: the easiest way is to let ubuntu install on the free space
[05:47] <seth_k> bob_ : System > Administration > Printing ?
[05:47] <duende> seth_k: yip, got it, tnx
[05:47] <ernesto> ok
[05:47] <duende> seth_k: one note tho, i'm getting the same on the ca server, not sure if it's the same problem or not
[05:48] <seth_k> duende: yep
[05:48] <kanzen> just out of curiousity, is something broken or did the us repository get owned?
[05:48] <seth_k> CA and US
[05:48] <seth_k> GB is ok
[05:48] <seth_k> so is main
[05:48] <duende> k, tnx
[05:48] <ernesto> thoreau, iceman, nickrud and everyone thanks for your help !!!!!!!4
[05:48] <thoreauputic> ernesto: no problem - good luck !
[05:48] <flodine> can someone help with a gforce 6200 card
[05:48] <IcemanV9> ernesto: also, you will see the partition information as well.
[05:49] <ernesto> ok iceman... thx everyone4!
[05:49] <IIIEars> Hi flodine - what is the trouble?
[05:49] <TokenBad> anyone been able to get the codecs for I don't understand this...I still can't save files to my other drive...I can send files to people and access them from root terminal..but from in gnome I can't save to it...
[05:49] <flodine> anyone just got the Geforce 6200 and ubuntu gives me a black screen after loading drivers
[05:49] <TokenBad> oops
[05:49] <TokenBad> forget that first part of that
[05:49] <glDaher> Hello, just rebooted from my first installation, I couldn't find the ppp over eithernet thing
[05:49] <glDaher> how do I connect to the internet?
[05:50] <flodine> is my card not supported
[05:50] <TokenBad> glDaher, you are on the net..if your here
[05:50] <nonix> alooo
[05:50] <glDaher> am on windows ;)
[05:50] <TokenBad> ahh
[05:50] <TokenBad> you have cable or dsl or dialup?
[05:50] <glDaher> dsl
[05:50] <nonix> bububu
[05:51] <TokenBad> ethernet card or built on?
[05:51] <flodine> IIIEars you there
[05:51] <glDaher> two eithernet cards, one active with the dsl modem one offline
[05:51] <TokenBad> hmm
[05:51] <mae> oh how i loathe hibernation
[05:51] <TokenBad> when I installed it detected mine right off
[05:52] <glDaher> it did detect both, one offline (cable unplugged) ... and the one connected to the modem seem to be active
[05:52] <IIIEars> flodine - you are using the nvidia binaries from their site and you updated your kernel following the how to in ubuntu's nvidia binary howto?
[05:52] <glDaher> seemed **
[05:52] <IcemanV9> glDaher: pppoeconf
[05:52] <flodine> no
[05:52] <glDaher> IcemanV9: thx, I'll reboot and will be right back
[05:53] <glDaher> thx TokenBad too
[05:53] <glDaher> later
[05:53] <TokenBad> sorry couldn't be more help
[05:53] <TokenBad> now if can just figure out my problem
[05:53] <TokenBad> heheh
[05:54] <IIIEars> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto flodine this will have you using your speedy video. :)
[05:55] <flodine> thxs
[05:55] <TokenBad> anyone know why I can't save files from within gnome to my other drive
[05:55] <TokenBad> like if I go to download a file from the net
[05:55] <TokenBad> it will not let me save to any dir but my home dir
[05:55] <dr_willis> the other drive is what? mounted how?
[05:56] <TokenBad> its windows drive
[05:56] <TokenBad> so fat32
[05:56] <kanzen> so in ubuntu is apt-get still the perferred method or is aptitude the way to go?
[05:56] <squinn> apt-get
[05:56] <squinn> i'm assuming
[05:56] <squinn> or synaptic
[05:56] <TokenBad> and mounted as in did  mount /dev/hdd1 /home/windows
[05:56] <TokenBad> to mount to windows dir
[05:56] <thoreauputic> kanzen: aptitude is fine
[05:56] <kanzen> synaptic?
[05:56] <kanzen> oh the gui thing?
[05:57] <thoreauputic> kanzen: use either apt-get or aptitude, according to taste :)
[05:57] <dr_willis> TokenBad,  permission issues. perhaps set up the fstab to use the uid/gid/ and user and umask optins to all either one or all users to mount it.
[05:57] <JohnnyQuest> how do i log in as a root in ubuntu?
[05:57] <IIIEars> Token bad mount -o? mount -t?
[05:57] <kanzen> JohnnyQuest: set a root password first
[05:57] <bob_> EVERYTHING JUST WORKS!!!  NO BLUE SCREENS...  UNBELIEVABLE.  I'm never going back to the dark side   lol
[05:57] <JohnnyQuest> i have one set
[05:57] <kanzen> JohnnyQuest: sudo passwd root
[05:58] <rwg> Hi.  Is there something funny going on with us.archive.ubuntu.com?  I'm getting MD5 errors from downloaded .debs (curl and libstdc++6 4.0).
[05:58] <JohnnyQuest> i use root when im in the terminal
[05:58] <thoreauputic> rwg: /topic
[05:58] <JohnnyQuest> but i dont know how to just log in as the root
[05:58] <TokenBad> dr_willis, I tried to use fstab..but the way I did it..wouldn't work
[05:58] <IIIEars> bob- Welcome!
[05:58] <TokenBad> so not sure how to do it in fstab
[05:58] <kanzen> JohnnyQuest: what happens when you use the root username and password at the login prompt, johnnyquest?
[05:58] <kanzen> and how ar eyou trying to login?
[05:58] <JohnnyQuest> it tells me that snot a username
[05:58] <JohnnyQuest> when i start it up
[05:59] <JohnnyQuest> and at the log in screen
[05:59] <dr_willis> TokenBad,  this is a common 'problem' - i forget the exact way to do it. It depend son other details as to what exactly uou want. I normally set the uid,gid, and users/user option in fstab. to let the one user I use, mount and r/w the drive
[05:59] <JohnnyQuest> i typed root and then pw
[05:59] <thoreauputic> rwg: sorry, seems the topic has been changed.. :/
[05:59] <rwg> thoreauputic: What part of the topic?  I'm not using breezy yet -- really.
[05:59] <JohnnyQuest> and it told me that wasnt a real user name
[05:59] <bob_> tks for print help.  need to print python wxwidgets scripts.  Very elegant language,  simple to learn and use too
[05:59] <TokenBad> right but don't know how to do that
[05:59] <dr_willis> JohnnyQuest,  you mean in the X login screen?
[05:59] <TokenBad> one user here tried to help
[05:59] <TokenBad> but his way he tried not work either
[05:59] <JohnnyQuest> in the one it boots up to?
[05:59] <IIIEars> TokenBad - curious need more info to know if it is a problem with user rights or the way/where it is mounted...
[05:59] <kanzen> JohnnyQuest: oh you're using gdm/xdm type of thing?
[05:59] <thoreauputic> rwg: right - the topic until yesterday said the US and Ca sources were b0rked
[05:59] <JohnnyQuest> i guess...
[06:00] <dr_willis> JohnnyQuest,  try it from the console?
[06:00] <JohnnyQuest> im trying to intsall something and i need to modify the .profile
[06:00] <kanzen> JohnnyQuest: just out of curiosity, why do you want to do that as root?
[06:00] <dr_willis> its possible that GDM/XDM or whtever is not letting root startup X that way
[06:00] <thoreauputic> rwg: evidently that is still the case
[06:00] <JohnnyQuest> and im restricted from doing it
[06:00] <randabis> sudo won't do the trick?
[06:00] <JohnnyQuest> but i can do things with sudo and root stuff once im in but it has to be in teh terminal
[06:00] <kanzen> johnyquest: you'll have to configure gdm to AllowRootLogin
[06:00] <kanzen> then restart gdm (or reboot)
[06:00] <JohnnyQuest> how do i configure that?
[06:00] <gskillet> Help Requested: Problem with Wireless PCMCIA Card - Card worked fine initially, problem started after removing the card and then re-inserting it into the PCMCIA slot - Now Ubuntu will not use the card and refers to it as: No device found for eth1.  The last time I had this problem I was forced to re-install Ubuntu, can someone help me figure out what to do?  (So far I have tried re-inserting Orinoco drivers and re-installing PCMCIA packages)
[06:00] <rwg> thoreauputic: Hmmm, okay, thanks.  I guess I'll give uk.* a try and see if it's similarly broken.
[06:01] <IIIEars> TokenBad - you have tried sudo -s (to get a root trminal) and then nautilus?
[06:01] <thoreauputic> rwg: afaik uk is alright
[06:01] <dr_willis> a .profile is in each users home dir.. thers a system wide similer file that root can edit.
[06:01] <kanzen> JohnnyQuest: I don't use gdm, so I can't give yout he exact answer. However if you google search for gdm allow root, you should be ablet o find the answer pretty quickly
[06:01] <dr_willis> hmm is .profile even used much these days?
[06:01] <TokenBad> but its not that IIIEars...its when I want to download a file from the internet and save to that drive cause of limited space on my os drive
[06:01] <JohnnyQuest> ok
[06:01] <randabis> my damn brand new phone charger broke :/
[06:01] <kanzen> I'm assuming that ubuntu uses gdm, someone eles will have to confirm
[06:01] <JohnnyQuest> i need it for qt3
[06:01] <dennis_> does anyone know how to release irq?
[06:02] <JohnnyQuest> i need qtmultithreading
[06:02] <JohnnyQuest> so that i can install mythtv
[06:02] <bob_> wxwindows vs pyqt guis..  is pyqt a better api? or easier to use?  any comments welcome
[06:02] <hondje> qt is so nice :-(
[06:02] <IIIEars> TokenBad - only when you transfer a file from the 'net directly to the other spare drive/partition?
[06:02] <JohnnyQuest> but to install that, i need to be able to log in as root..
[06:02] <TokenBad> yeah...
[06:02] <zonie> hello people
[06:02] <randabis> everyone needs qts in their life :p
[06:02] <kanzen> JohnnyQuest: you can't do it with sudo?
[06:02] <TokenBad> I can access from root terminal and stuff
[06:03] <JohnnyQuest> i dont know how to open the file from the terminal
[06:03] <TokenBad> but I checked permissions on that..and its same settings as my home dir
[06:03] <JohnnyQuest> i want to open the .profile file and modify it
[06:03] <glDaher> hey am here :)
[06:03] <hondje> JohnnyQuest: nano or vim
[06:03] <thoreauputic> JohnnyQuest:  gksudo gedit /path/to/file
[06:03] <TokenBad> could also do root terminal
[06:03] <randabis> sudo -s
[06:03] <TokenBad> and do pico .profile
[06:03] <JohnnyQuest> and that will open it and allow me to edit it?
[06:04] <IcemanV9> glDaher: from windows? or ???
[06:04] <glDaher> #init 4  -- doesn't work for me =/
[06:04] <Arrogant> Anyone know how to get gnome to have a flashing tasklist for urgent windows?
[06:04] <thoreauputic> of course
[06:04] <glDaher> nope from ubuntu :D
[06:04] <kanzen> johnny: what editor are you familiar with?
[06:04] <IcemanV9> coolio! :)
[06:04] <JohnnyQuest> i dont know...
[06:04] <IcemanV9> easy, wasn't it?
[06:04] <JohnnyQuest> im new to linux
[06:04] <kanzen> nano is pretty easy to use
[06:04] <kanzen> sudo nano <file>
[06:04] <zenrox> gedit is even easer
[06:04] <glDaher> yeah, but I was looking for pppoe not pppoeconf my bad
[06:04] <thoreauputic> JohnnyQuest: I suggest you run gksudo gedit /path/to/file
[06:05] <JohnnyQuest> thats wat im gonna try
[06:05] <bleck> does anyone know how to change permissions of say a folder, and all files in that folder at the same time
[06:05] <thoreauputic> JohnnyQuest: that will give you a nice graphical editor
[06:05] <kanzen> thoreauputic: isn't that an oxymoron?
[06:05] <TokenBad> so anyone got idea on why can't save from inet to my other mounted drive?
[06:05] <glDaher> I now wanna install my nvidia drivers... gotta turn x down... init 4 doesn't work as other distros o.O
[06:05] <hondje> bleck: chown <newowner> -R directory
[06:05] <thoreauputic> kanzen: ;)
[06:05] <kanzen> :)
[06:05] <hondje> bleck: chown changes owner, -R makes it recursive
[06:05] <thoreauputic> kanzen: ed! ed is the editor!
[06:05] <dr_willis> glDaher,  alt-ctrl-backspace may kick it in the head. :P
[06:06] <bleck> ahhh, kewl thans!
[06:06] <kanzen> haha
[06:06] <forced> hondje: chmod... chown only changes the owner, chmod changes the permissions. -R still holds true.
[06:06] <glDaher> dr_willis: this shall restart it, not?
[06:06] <bleck> so chmod with -r switch works too...
[06:06] <forced> -R yes.
[06:06] <thoreauputic> kanzen: http://users.fishinternet.com.au/~peterg/edistheeditor.txt
[06:06] <bleck> out of morbid curiosity, any way to do it in nautilus?
[06:06] <TokenBad> this is what I have in fstab: /dev/hdd1       /home/windows   vfat    rw,auto,unmask=000  0   0
[06:06] <hondje> I misread him wanting to chown, whoops :)
[06:06] <synd-> hey guys im havin a bit of trouble getting my Linksys WPC54G wireless PCMCIA card workin
[06:06] <dr_willis> glDaher,  it will kill off X instantly.. and gdm should restart.. or i think you can restart the gdm service also
[06:07] <synd-> any help? i realize that I'm going to have to get ndiswrapper to get it working
[06:07] <^thehatsrule^> wtf deuce
[06:07] <^thehatsrule^> :/
[06:07] <JohnnyQuest> i think that worked
[06:07] <Amaranth> he left so i can't warn him
[06:07] <JohnnyQuest> now lets hope i modified the file correctly
[06:07] <bleck> (i should read the man pages before i come here :P sorry to bug you guys with simple questions)
[06:07] <JohnnyQuest> i dont understand the man pages :(
[06:08] <bigfoot1> hello, how can i have mplayer run in fullscreen mode? In terminal, i do "mplayer -fs foo.avi". The window _does_ open in fullscreen, but the movie file is not fullscreen. Thank you!
[06:08] <IIIEars> JohnnyQuest - They are better as a reminder. :x
[06:08] <JohnnyQuest> o ok
[06:08] <bleck> bigfoot1: i know i had to change the preferences in the video tab in mplayer... to opengl or something like that, just make sure the correct drivers are installed
[06:08] <thoreauputic> JohnnyQuest: that's normal
[06:08] <randabis> bigfoot1: could be the movie file...might be a widescreen flick
[06:08] <TokenBad> IIIEars, this is what I have in fstab: /dev/hdd1       /home/windows   vfat    rw,auto,unmask=000  0   0
[06:08] <TokenBad> is that right?
[06:09] <thoreauputic> JohnnyQuest: takes a while to get into understanding man pages at all
[06:09] <thoreauputic> :)
[06:09] <glDaher> dr_willis: I want it off, not restarted...
[06:09] <glDaher> runlevel 4
[06:09] <bigfoot1> randabis, the movie file _can_ open in fullscreen in other players (vlc, totem, xine).
[06:09] <randabis> ok then
[06:09] <randabis> follow bleck's advice then I suppose
[06:09] <bleck> bigfoot1: change it from xv in the video tab
[06:09] <bigfoot1> bleck, i was able to run fullscreen in mplayer before ,but i forgot the command.
[06:09] <randabis> I don't use mplayer
[06:09] <bigfoot1> from xv to what, bleck?
[06:09] <bigfoot1> oh, to opengl.
[06:09] <bigfoot1> okay.
[06:10] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: or try the -zoom option
[06:10] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: or install xine ;-)
[06:10] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, okay. I'll try that. This "-zoom" command sounds familar.
[06:10] <IIIEars> TokenBad - And it seems similar to the other entries? - beginning to think it is a permission problem or process permission problem
[06:11] <TokenBad> IIIEars, this is one of the other entries: /dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[06:11] <IIIEars> TokenBad - someone else will know better if it is a permission problem.
[06:11] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, actually, I have xine installed, and I do prefer xine. But I need to use mplayer because I don't know whether Xine, totem, vlc can delay/change the timing of subtitles. AFAIK, only mplayer can do this.
[06:11] <ablyss> on the keyboard pressing 'f' will toggle fullscreen in mplayer
[06:11] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: I see
[06:12] <bigfoot1> ablyss, yes, that's true. But in these instances, F will make the window fullscreen, but keeps the movie at the same size.
[06:12] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: I don't know either...
[06:12] <TokenBad> how would I found out the permissions on that drive?
[06:12] <nalioth> TokenBad: whats up?
[06:12] <bleck> bigfoot1: thats exactly how mine was, till i changed from xv driver, to opengl... just make sure your video card drivers are installed
[06:12] <TokenBad> still trying to get that drive working nalioth
[06:12] <TokenBad> so can save to it
[06:12] <bigfoot1> bleck, what's the difference between opengl and xv?
[06:13] <chillywilly> *yawn*
[06:13] <nalioth> TokenBad: give me a minute
[06:13] <TokenBad> how you doing nalioth...thanks for talking to me last night and trying to help me
[06:13] <TokenBad> you got further than I would have
[06:13] <bleck> bigfoot1: the driver it's using the output the video
[06:13] <bigfoot1> bleck, by the way, my preferences are currently set to XWindows (No Xv) in the gstreamer-properties command.
[06:13] <bigfoot1> bleck, do you know how to delay subtitles in xine, totem, or vlc?
[06:14] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: I think -zoom should work
[06:14] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, okay. will do it now.
[06:14] <bleck> bigfoot1: don't use subtitles... dont watch much on the computer, cept porn... don't need subtitles for that :P
[06:14] <mythtv> HELP! compile kernel error
[06:14] <mythtv> Missing /usr/src/linux/linux-source-2.6.10-2.6.10/debian/abi/2.6.10-34.2/abiname file.
[06:14] <mythtv> make: *** [clean]   1
[06:14] <kanzen> *loud moaning*
[06:15] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, you're right it works. I hope to remember this -zoom command.
[06:15] <nalioth> TokenBad: defaults,umask=0000
[06:16] <misael> hello
[06:16] <TokenBad> isn't that close to what it has?
[06:16] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: personally, I hardly ever use mplayer: it's a pain - I have to re-read the man all the time to get it to do virtually anything
[06:16] <ablyss> alias mplayer="mplayer -zoom"
[06:16] <TokenBad> see /dev/hdd1       /home/windows   vfat    rw,auto,unmask=000  0   0
[06:16] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, i agree with you.
[06:16] <nalioth> TokenBad: try it, a 0 can make a difference
[06:16] <TokenBad> ok
[06:16] <misael> how do you install realplayer on ubuntu
[06:17] <bigfoot1> I just wish the other players could at least all the features that mplayer has, such as subtitle delay adjusting/snchronizing.
[06:17] <misael> or wmp
[06:17] <TokenBad> should I reboot nalioth or is there another way?
[06:17] <nalioth> TokenBad: defaults,gid=000,uid=000,umask=0000
[06:17] <bigfoot1> misael, are you talking to me? 8-)
[06:17] <bleck> misael: check www.ubuntuguide.org
[06:17] <nalioth> try the last one
[06:17] <misael> yep
[06:17] <Nige> ello
[06:17] <kanzen> misael: apt-get install helix-player
[06:17] <bleck> misael: all instructions for those things are there
[06:17] <Nige> anyone know how to get wpa working
[06:17] <ablyss> gmplayer is the graphical mplayer... it has nice skins
[06:17] <bigfoot1> wmp is windows media player?
[06:17] <mythtv> does anyone can help me ,I meet kernel compile error
[06:18] <misael> i am new to ubuntu
[06:18] <Nige> i am newbie
[06:18] <Nige> but i got the nic to work thus fr
[06:18] <kanzen> misael: then you should listen to bleck's suggestion :)
[06:18] <misael> ok
[06:18] <misael> cool
[06:18] <bigfoot1> what's helix-player, kanzen?
[06:19] <TokenBad> so it would look like this nalioth: /dev/hdd1 /home/windows/ vfat defaults,gid=000,uid=000,umask=0000?
[06:19] <kanzen> it's the "open-source" version of real-player
[06:19] <Nige> used the ndiswrapppers
[06:19] <tehmasp> why do i get something of the like 'VFS ext3 partition not found /dev/hda3' (can't remember exactly) , I made /dev/hda3 reiserfs during install.  Is this because reiserfs is built into the kernel as a module?
[06:19] <kanzen> bigfoot1: https://helixcommunity.org/
[06:20] <thoreauputic> TokenBad: erm - that will only work for root - is that what you want?
[06:20] <nalioth> TokenBad: try it
[06:20] <TokenBad> but is that how it should look?
[06:20] <TokenBad> and then once set it
[06:20] <TokenBad> do I need to reboot the computer?
[06:21] <randabis> modules are not built into the kernel
[06:21] <codomaniac> hi i tried booting ubuntu live CD on AMD athlon
[06:21] <nalioth> TokenBad: run with it
[06:21] <randabis> if they were then they wouldn't be modules
[06:21] <IcemanV9> mplayer crashed when playing dvd .. but it works great in firefox
[06:21] <codomaniac> it boots and then stops :(
[06:21] <kanzen> tehmasp: you either need to recompile with reiser as a built in or run mkinitrd
[06:21] <codomaniac> what may be reason ????
[06:22] <TokenBad> nalioth, should I reboot the computer once done? or just restart the gnome or what?
[06:22] <IIIEars> codomaniac - it boots to the desk then the mouse and keyboard lock?
[06:22] <tehmasp> kanzen, ok thanks
[06:22] <misael> after i go to that website bleck what do i do next
[06:22] <kanzen> how did you compile the kernel, tehmasp
[06:22] <kanzen> ?
[06:22] <ablyss> codomaniac.. any scratches on the cd ?
[06:22] <codomaniac> ablyss: nah
[06:23] <tehmasp> kanzen, i didn't , it still booted up fine and everything was alright,
[06:23] <misael> bleck
[06:23] <misael> are you there
[06:23] <codomaniac> IIIEars: it shows initial booting ....then it hangs ....with x-windows not showing at all
[06:23] <ablyss> i literally tried 4 or 5 times to install ubuntu on my athlon... to finally noticed this long scratch across my cd.. i burned a new one and installed fine the first try
[06:24] <glDaher> k, another question, just downloaded opera.deb file, and tried to add a repository to the pkgman
[06:24] <glDaher> donno how to do that... =/
[06:25] <TokenBad> still not letting me write to that drive
[06:25] <kanzen> TokenBad: who are you trying to write as?
[06:25] <nalioth> TokenBad: we'll get it
[06:26] <glDaher> dpkg -i ... got it
[06:26] <randabis> glDaher: etc/apt/sources.list is the file you edit to add repositories
[06:26] <TokenBad> as normal user kanzen
[06:26] <randabis> dpkg -i is what you use for installing debs
[06:26] <kanzen> what are the permissions of your mount point?
[06:26] <nalioth> TokenBad: it isn that diffecult, i'm just not in front of a pc
[06:26] <TokenBad> ah
[06:26] <TokenBad> drwxr-xr-x  189 root     root     65536 1969-12-31 16:00 windows
[06:26] <TokenBad> drwxr-xr-x   23 tokenbad tokenbad  4096 2005-06-11 21:23 tokenbad
[06:26] <TokenBad> look at that
[06:26] <TokenBad> windows is the mounted drive
[06:26] <TokenBad> tokenbad is the dir I can save to
[06:27] <matthew_w> Hey, what do you type into the terminal to add multiverse and universe to synaptic?
[06:27] <glDaher> randabis: if I add my /home/username/download for example, to my soruces will they be available in the pkgman?
[06:27] <thechitowncubs> is there any way to get the Middle click to scroll when i drag and click?
[06:27] <kanzen> TokenBad: only root can write to that mountpoing (windows)
[06:27] <kanzen> mountpoint, rather
[06:27] <TokenBad> ok how fix it?
[06:28] <kanzen> TokenBad: do you want anyone else to bea ble to write to it other than yourself?
[06:28] <matthew_w> There's some command I have to run... I just forget what it is.
[06:28] <TokenBad> kanzen, I am only person to use this computer
[06:28] <kanzen> ifnot sudo chown tokenbad:tokenbad windows
[06:28] <ablyss> apt-get --help
[06:28] <cwd__> has anyone else noticed a lot of md5 mismatches in hoary or is it just something on my end?
[06:29] <ablyss> not me cwd__
[06:29] <thoreauputic> TokenBad: for a vfat partition you don't need the uid= and gid= options in fstab
[06:29] <bob2> cwd__: us.archive.ubuntu.com wasscrewed
[06:29] <bob2> use archive.ubuntu.com
[06:29] <cwd__> cool
[06:29] <cwd__> thanks
[06:29] <wc_nix> nalioth, you there?
[06:29] <ablyss> hi bob2
[06:29] <nalioth> TokenBad: user,auto,rw,gid=000,uid=000,umask=0000
[06:29] <bob2> hi
[06:29] <nalioth> wc_nix: yessire
[06:29] <nalioth> wc_nix: tired tired but here
[06:29] <wc_nix> i went to the x86 release
[06:29] <wc_nix> i386
[06:29] <dr_willis> in the past i set uid and gid to the # of the one user i wanted to have access.
[06:30] <TokenBad> ok so do it without the gid and uid?
[06:30] <TokenBad> or with it?
[06:30] <wc_nix> for some reason it's missing GCC or thinks it is
[06:30] <matthew_w> Can someone tell me how to add multiverse to synaptic...? XD
[06:30] <dr_willis> but it depends on your needs I guess.
[06:30] <nalioth> matthew_w: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list <enter>
[06:30] <thoreauputic> nalioth: why are you persisiting with the uid= and gid= ? They aren't needed
[06:30] <kanzen> TokenBad: did you try just changing the ownership with cown?
[06:30] <wc_nix> i tried to compile something and it gave me errors
[06:30] <matthew_w> Thanks.
[06:30] <kanzen> TokenBad: chown rather
[06:30] <TokenBad> ok where it has tokenbad:tokenbad is the second should be my pass?
[06:30] <nalioth> the gid and uid are Group ID and User ID, they are both set for ALL USERS and ALL GROUPS
[06:30] <bob2> wc_nix: you'd need to install a compiler oon ubuntu if you wanted to use it..
[06:31] <bob2> nalioth: er, that's not how it works
[06:31] <randabis> glDaher: no don't do that.
[06:31] <bob2> setting uid=0 means root owns the files
[06:31] <IIIEars> wc_nix - do you have "build-essential" in synaptic?
[06:31] <wc_nix> GCC is needed to install many types of software
[06:31] <thoreauputic> nalioth: no, thhey are set for root in your example
[06:31] <bob2> you only need to touch umask, setting it to 002
[06:31] <kanzen> TokenBad: no.. the second tokenbad is your group
[06:31] <nalioth> bob2: i'm tired, though uid and gid set to 000 was 'open to all folks"
[06:31] <bob2> nalioth: no
[06:31] <wc_nix> synaptic?
[06:31] <nalioth> thoreauputic: bob2 can y'all help TokenBad
[06:31] <nalioth> i'm tired an not thinkin straight
[06:31] <wc_nix> oh the package manager
[06:31] <matthew_w> Ok, I see universe in there... So, if I wanted to add the multiverse, copy the line and just replace universe with multiverse..?
[06:32] <bob2> thoreauputic: do umask=000
[06:32] <glDaher> ok randabis I'd trust you, but I want this qt thing for my opera.deb... I got this error E: Package libqt3c102-mt has no installation candidate
[06:32] <nalioth> wc_nix: use apt to install 'build-essential'
[06:32] <TokenBad> uh oh
[06:32] <nalioth> wc_nix: and also "checkinstall"
[06:32] <TokenBad> I just tried to go to root terminal
[06:32] <IIIEars> wc_nix - you can apt get it also - hey i'm new gui's are friendly - grin
[06:32] <TokenBad> and its giving error
[06:32] <thoreauputic> bob2: yes, i know that - i was just trying to correct the other error
[06:32] <thoreauputic> :)
[06:32] <bob2> glDaher: it's in hoary
[06:32] <bob2> thoreauputic: oops, sorry, not you
[06:32] <bob2> I know you know :)
[06:32] <kanzen> umask overrides the permissions on the mount point?
[06:32] <randabis> glDaher: probably need the qt packages
[06:32] <nalioth> matthew_w: no, just space over a couple after the word 'universe" and add multiverse
[06:33] <randabis> glDaher: no need to google
[06:33] <bob2> glDaher: hoary = the current version of ubuntu...
[06:33] <wc_nix> k will do
[06:33] <bob2> glDaher: you're not the same person who was trying to do this yesterday, are you?
[06:33] <randabis> use synaptic to find the qt packages
[06:33] <glDaher> yes right
[06:33] <nalioth> bob2: thoreauputic TokenBad this is irritating me, cuz i just set up 3 puters in teh last 3 weeks with fstabs allowing r/w
[06:33] <glDaher> no not, first time on ubunut
[06:33] <bob2> nalioth: yes, with umask=000
[06:33] <glDaher> ubuntu
[06:34] <matthew_w> Any ideas how to get ubuntu to accurately read my laptop battery/
[06:34] <bob2> glDaher: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood
[06:34] <nalioth> bob2: i'm so tired atm, i don't even know..
[06:34] <TokenBad> ok new problem before can finish working with drive problem
[06:34] <matthew_w> I get absolutely nothing, says I have "unknown battery life" etc...
[06:34] <TokenBad> how come now when go to my root terminal it gives me error?
[06:34] <kanzen> TokenBad: what is the error?
[06:34] <thoreauputic> nalioth: get some sleep, man :)
[06:35] <matthew_w> Dmesg returns AE_NOT_FOUND with acpi a bunch of times.
[06:35] <nalioth> matthew_w: is your acpi up to date? or is your laptop super new?
[06:35] <kanzen> TokenBad: and what do you mean by "go to my root teminal"?
[06:35] <bob2> TokenBad: you need to be more specific about what you mean by "go to root terminal", and what error you get
[06:35] <glDaher> bob2 just did
[06:35] <bob2> nalioth: "acpi up to date"? it's part of the kernel, dude
[06:35] <matthew_w> My laptop is brand new, but I've seen people with working ACER's before.
[06:35] <nalioth> thoreauputic: had some sailors in the cab for the past several hours, been to the 'wrong' part of town, got shot at, all kinds of fun
[06:35] <TokenBad> failed to run /bin/x-terminal-emulator: unable to copy users xauthorization file
[06:35] <TokenBad> thats the error
[06:35] <bob2> glDaher: wow, how did you install it?
[06:35] <kanzen> I like to let my acpi get nice and ripe before using it
[06:35] <nalioth> bob2: ok i'm outta here
[06:35] <thoreauputic> nalioth: :(
[06:35] <bob2> nalioth: 'night
[06:35] <wc_nix> hey nalioth may I PM you the error i'm getting
[06:35] <wc_nix> it's really huge
[06:36] <TokenBad> and what mean is when go to applications system tools root terminal
[06:36] <TokenBad> it ask for pass
[06:36] <TokenBad> I type in pass and it gives that error
[06:36] <bob2> TokenBad: it asks for your user password
[06:36] <TokenBad> and it was working before
[06:36] <TokenBad> bob2 yes
[06:36] <glDaher> bob2 install what?
[06:36] <bob2> glDaher: ubuntu
[06:37] <thoreauputic> glDaher: the only source you have is the CD ?
[06:37] <glDaher> hmmn
[06:37] <glDaher> yes
[06:37] <bob2> glDaher: anyway, you need to uncomment some of the network lines of you want qt
[06:37] <bob2> you presumably have network access, since you downloaded opera
[06:37] <matthew_w> Any ideas on the ... battery thinger? lol
[06:38] <glDaher> oh my n00b ... now makes sense
[06:38] <J35U5> how do i install a .deb?
[06:38] <TokenBad> bob2 I put my pass in and then it gives that error
[06:38] <bob2> J35U5: what is it?
[06:39] <randabis> J35U5: dpkg -i foo.deb
[06:39] <thoreauputic> glDaher: easy way : just uncomment all lines that start with "deb"
[06:39] <J35U5> cedega.
[06:39] <bob2> TokenBad: I can't imagine how the default system could do that, sorry
[06:39] <randabis> thief lolz
[06:39] <randabis> cedega has support forums for its customers
[06:39] <TokenBad> bob2 it was working just a min ago
[06:39] <TokenBad> cause was using it to edit the fstab file
[06:40] <kanzen> TokenBad: what happens if you open a regular terminal and type sudo bash
[06:40] <kanzen> ?
[06:40] <J35U5> randabis, no i purchased it <_<
[06:40] <TokenBad> it changes
[06:40] <TokenBad> tokenbad@c-24-21-29-248:~$ sudo bash
[06:40] <TokenBad> root@c-24-21-29-248:~#
[06:40] <glDaher> got "W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubun ..." for all new sorces =/
[06:40] <TokenBad> but if go to root terminal it will not work
[06:40] <thechitowncubs> is there any way to get the Middle click to scroll when i drag and click?
[06:40] <bob2> glDaher: sudo apt-get update, first
[06:40] <thoreauputic> glDaher: run sudo apt-get update
[06:40] <thoreauputic> bob2: :)
[06:41] <bob2> thechitowncubs: that's app/toolkit specific
[06:41] <kanzen> TokenBad: that is a "root terminal"
[06:41] <TokenBad> I understand that...
[06:41] <thechitowncubs> ok, how bout in firefox...
[06:41] <TokenBad> but why would it not work now when go to applications, system tools, root terminal?
[06:41] <TokenBad> when it worked before
[06:42] <bigfoot1> How do i run an .exe file on ubuntu?
[06:42] <glDaher> am really shy about this ppl, but irc is making ppl lazier everyday
[06:42] <kanzen> TokenBad: most likely you accidentally changed something you didn't mean to. Unforetunately I don't know what that could be.
[06:42] <glDaher> I shall stay here to give help to others too then :)
[06:42] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: you don't, in general
[06:42] <TokenBad> I haven't changed anything but in fstab
[06:42] <TokenBad> but anyway
[06:42] <TokenBad> back to original problem
[06:42] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, yes, i usually don't. but i don't think i can find a linux equivalent to the program
[06:42] <TokenBad> this is what have in fstab now for problem drive
[06:43] <Amaranth> bigfoot1: wine
[06:43] <TokenBad>  /dev/hdd1 /home/windows/ vfat defaults,gid=000,uid=000,umask=0000
[06:43] <TokenBad> now
[06:43] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: except with wine, of course
[06:43] <TokenBad> one of you say do it without the gid and uid
[06:43] <bigfoot1> Amaranth, how do i use wine?
[06:43] <TokenBad> so...
[06:43] <bigfoot1> is it a command, Amaranth ?
[06:43] <Amaranth> bigfoot1: sudo apt-get install wine winesetuptk
[06:43] <Amaranth> then wine file.exe
[06:43] <Amaranth> from a command line
[06:44] <kanzen> TokenBad: whne you are making changes to fstab are you doing a umount/mount or mount -o remount
[06:44] <kanzen> ?
[06:44] <TokenBad> just umount and then mount
[06:44] <bigfoot1> Amaranth, thanks. I'm now installing it. Does wine run any windows exe file?
[06:44] <Amaranth> bigfoot1: it runs a lot of them
[06:44] <Amaranth> bigfoot1: if it's a game you'll probably need to buy cedega
[06:45] <bigfoot1> Amaranth, if wine runs many programs,why do i hear many complaints that linux has only a few programs?
[06:45] <Amaranth> bigfoot1: you'll see when you run the program in wine :)
[06:45] <Amaranth> bigfoot1: it'll look like shit and may not work
[06:45] <bigfoot1> Amaranth, okie dokie 8-)
[06:45] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: Ubuntu alone has 16 000 programs or so available...
[06:45] <TokenBad> brb i hope
[06:46] <TokenBad> going to reboot
[06:46] <TokenBad> and hope it lets me back in
[06:46] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic, is there a program to adjust the timing of subtitles?
[06:46] <J35U5> #cedega
[06:46] <randabis> linux has plenty of software available
[06:46] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: I don't know
[06:46] <synd> anyone have a Linksys WPC54G wireless PCMCIA card working with Hoary??
[06:46] <gm78> is there a libmp3lame package for ubuntu hoary....i couldnt see one in synaptic?
[06:47] <hondje> mp3lame, vs regular lame?
[06:47] <thoreauputic> gm78: the lame packages are in multiverse, IIRC
[06:47] <randabis> synd: check if it is supported in the wiki
[06:48] <xterminus> could a bad cdrom drive cause an integrity check to fail on a ubuntu cdrom integrity check?
[06:48] <wan87>  /server 216.152.66.71
[06:48] <randabis> xterminus: yeah, or a bad cd
[06:49] <wan87>  /server 216.152.66.71
[06:49] <xterminus> randabis, hrm... i just burned the cd a few days ago and installed ubuntu on another mac and it worked
[06:49] <thoreauputic> gm78: you probably need liblame0
[06:49] <xterminus> it's cheap to burn another cd though i guess
[06:50] <gm78> thoreauputic : and thats in multiverse? (enabling it right now)
[06:50] <wan87>  /server 216.152.66.71
[06:50] <thoreauputic> gm78: yep
[06:50] <wan87>  /server 216.152.66.71
[06:50] <thoreauputic> gm78: if you install lame from multiverse, you get that lib anyway
[06:50] <gm78> ah, ok
[06:51] <thoreauputic> gm78: sudo apt-get install lame will pull in what you need, I expect
[06:53] <matthew_w> If anyone has any solution as to how to get the battery in an ACER reading on ubuntu to be correct... I'd be grateful.
[06:53] <TokenBad> ok got my user stuff fixed
[06:53] <gm78> thoreauputic : thx for ur help
[06:53] <TokenBad> now let me check my mounted drive
[06:54] <thoreauputic> gm78: no problem :)
[06:54] <tetragon> well it looks like people are really sharing gnowledge with the new HOWTOs on the Linux Virtual Server project....but i am not sure why so many are interested
[06:54] <TokenBad> what was the command to change the mounted drive stuff
[06:54] <TokenBad> choun
[06:54] <TokenBad> or something
[06:54] <kanzen> chown
[06:54] <kanzen> chown tokenbad:tokenbad /mount/point
[06:55] <nickrud> matthew_w, this is pretty old, i think, but http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsAcer may have some pointers
[06:55] <kanzen> (replace /mount/point with your mount point)
[06:56] <tetragon> is there really anybody that uses a server....why all the increased gnowledge on the Linux Virtual Server
[06:56] <TokenBad> I just get operation not permitted
[06:56] <matthew_w> I'll look, thanks.
[06:56] <kanzen> TokenBad: are you doing it as root?
[06:56] <TokenBad> yes
[06:56] <TokenBad> think so
[06:56] <TokenBad> root@c-24-21-29-248:/home # chown tokenbad:tokenbad /home/windows
[06:57] <nickrud> matthew_w, most of that stuff is probably still relavent
[06:57] <kanzen> TokenBad: unmount /home/windows && chown tokenbad:tokenbad && mount /home/windows
[06:57] <kanzen> ack
[06:57] <kanzen> TokenBad: unmount /home/windows && chown tokenbad:tokenbad /home/windows && mount /home/windows
[06:57] <kanzen> sorry
[06:57] <TokenBad> so umount it first
[06:58] <TokenBad> then chown it
[06:58] <TokenBad> then mount it?
[06:58] <mae> how do i disable acpi and enable apm instead
[06:58] <kanzen> yes... root shouldn't be getting an opperation not permitted
[06:58] <matthew_w> Thanks nick.. but it basically just told me what is broken, not how to fix it x-x
[06:59] <nickrud> matthew_w, I have clue, sometimes I find clueful links, sometimes not :)
[06:59] <TokenBad> kanzen, I umounted did the chown command and then remounted..
[06:59] <TokenBad> and same problem
[07:00] <nickrud> s/have/have no/
[07:01] <biovore> I am getting a MD5Sum mismatch on xfce4-panel_4.2.1.1_1ubuntu_i386.deb  :-(
[07:01] <kanzen> TokenBad: define "same problem" I know you can't write to it, but what you are doing exactly that is failing? Also what is the output of the mount command for that partition
[07:01] <kanzen> :?
[07:01] <kanzen> ?
[07:02] <randabis> biovore: check /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:02] <kanzen> biovore: heh... that's why I came in here (different package) the US and CA repositories are fscked
[07:02] <TokenBad> root@c-24-21-29-248:/home # umount /home/windows
[07:02] <TokenBad> root@c-24-21-29-248:/home # chown tokenbad:tokenbad /home/windows
[07:02] <TokenBad> root@c-24-21-29-248:/home # mount /dev/hdd1 /home/windows
[07:02] <biovore> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/ .... bla bla
[07:02] <TokenBad> and it just goes back to promt
[07:02] <TokenBad> no responce
[07:02] <nickrud> biovore, us.archive is bad, use archive for now
[07:02] <kanzen> TokenBad: no news is good news with UNIXy operating systems.
[07:03] <kanzen> now try to write to the drive
[07:03] <TokenBad> I did
[07:03] <TokenBad> it wouldn't work
[07:03] <ablyss> lol kanzen
[07:03] <biovore> http://archive.ubuntu.com ?
[07:03] <kanzen> TokenBad: what are you doing to write to the drive?
[07:03] <matthew_w> I find that a lot of people seem to be getting this error with their notebooks.
[07:03] <kanzen> are you copying something over? writing in a file?
[07:03] <nickrud> biovore, yeah, unless you know a local mirror, that might be better
[07:03] <TokenBad> well basicly like said before...I want to be able to download a file from inet...and  have it save to a dir on that drive
[07:04] <kanzen> TokenBad: if you cd /home/windows and type "touch testing123" what happens
[07:04] <jakew1991> very quiet in here...
[07:04] <jakew1991> nvm
[07:04] <TokenBad> just returns to prompt
[07:05] <kanzen> ok... you just wrote to the drive
[07:05] <TokenBad> but I am root
[07:05] <biovore> that worked.. :-)  thanks..
[07:05] <kanzen> if you do ls -l testing123 you should see a 0k file
[07:05] <kanzen> ok... test as yourself "touch testing1234"
[07:06] <nickrud> biovore, it used to be in the topic, I'm not sure why it's not now
[07:06] <TokenBad> touch: cannot touch `testing123': Permission denied
[07:06] <kanzen> type "mount" and copy/paste the line with /home/windows in it
[07:07] <TokenBad> /dev/hdd1 on /home/windows type vfat (rw)
[07:07] <thoreauputic> :/
[07:07] <kanzen> TokenBad: and ls -l /home/windows
[07:07] <kanzen> ?
[07:07] <thoreauputic> TokenBad: no one said to remove the umask=000 option...
[07:08] <TokenBad> i didn't
[07:08] <TokenBad> its in the fstab file
[07:08] <thoreauputic> OK
[07:08] <kanzen> also, what kind of drive is this? is it a regular hard drive or a SD card or soemthing?
[07:08] <TokenBad> ide hard drive
[07:08] <kanzen> ok, if you do ls -ld /home/windows what do you see?
[07:09] <kanzen> sorry, without the cruft: ls -ld /home/windows
[07:09] <TokenBad> drwxr-xr-x  189 root root 65536 2005-06-11 22:04 /home/windows
[07:09] <kanzen> TokenBad: umount /home/windows
[07:09] <kanzen> then: ls -ld /home/windows
[07:09] <kanzen> and show me the output
[07:10] <TokenBad> tried to umount and says drive is busy now..but nothing is running from that drive
[07:10] <littlezoper> umount -l :)
[07:10] <kanzen> TokenBad: cd out of the drive
[07:11] <TokenBad> kanzen, I am not in the drive
[07:11] <TokenBad> I am at root dir
[07:11] <kanzen> on all windows?
[07:11] <TokenBad> I just have xchat and one terminal open
[07:12] <TokenBad> what is umount -l?
[07:13] <TokenBad> guess can reboot and fix it from being used
[07:14] <glDaher> again, why is it 1024 is the max screen res here?
[07:14] <glDaher> I did install nvidia-glx
[07:14] <biovore> ?
[07:14] <kanzen> TokenBad: type fuser /home/windows
[07:14] <glDaher> isn't that the driver?
[07:14] <biovore> check you mode settings
[07:14] <biovore> horiz & vertical sync
[07:15] <biovore> I am running 1600x1280 with an nvidia card
[07:15] <TokenBad>  /home/windows:        7968
[07:15] <kanzen> TokenBad: type ps -ef|grep 7968
[07:15] <TokenBad> tokenbad  7968     1  0 21:53 ?        00:00:00 /usr/lib/gamin/gam_server
[07:15] <TokenBad> tokenbad  8826  8562  0 22:15 pts/0    00:00:00 grep 7968
[07:16] <hondje> is bugzilla.ubuntu.com not allowing anyone else to submit bugs?
[07:16] <TokenBad> couldn't I just do fuser -ki /home/windows?
[07:17] <TokenBad> or kill 7968?
[07:17] <kanzen> first try fuser -v /home/windows
[07:17] <hondje> I keep getting ' 'User' is not a valid bug number. It is neither a bug number nor an alias to a bug number. If you are trying to use QuickSearch, you need to enable JavaScript in your browser.' from them
[07:18] <TokenBad>                      USER        PID ACCESS COMMAND
[07:18] <TokenBad> /home/windows        tokenbad   7968 f....  gam_server
[07:18] <TokenBad>                      root     kernel mount  /home/windows
[07:18] <kanzen> TokenBad: do you have nautilus or something running?
[07:19] <TokenBad> no
[07:19] <TokenBad> like said
[07:19] <TokenBad> just have xchat
[07:19] <TokenBad> and the terminal
[07:19] <kanzen> do you have icons on your desktop?
[07:19] <TokenBad> no
[07:19] <TokenBad> just my cd rom drive
[07:19] <araw1> Is the installation of Ubuntu is GUI ?
[07:20] <kanzen> ok.. so you have an icon on the desktop
[07:20] <qizmo> 
[07:20] <kanzen> araw1: depends on yoru definition of GUI, but yes I think it is
[07:20] <TokenBad> not now
[07:20] <TokenBad> ejected the cd
[07:20] <araw1> i mean like, Suse and RedHAt installation
[07:20] <araw1> :)
[07:20] <thoreauputic> araw1: no
[07:20] <araw1> ic.. :)
[07:21] <thoreauputic> araw1: but it isn't hard
[07:21] <kanzen> TokenBad: nautilus (I'm assuming that is what your running) is monitoring /home/windows
[07:21] <araw1> so, it means all are "command lines"
[07:21] <kanzen> or some other proc is using gam_admin to
[07:21] <araw1> or still there a Mouse pointer
[07:21] <kanzen> araw1: it's not command line based, but it's not high res GUI
[07:21] <araw1> by just clicking
[07:21] <araw1> ah ic
[07:21] <TokenBad> so reboot kanzen ?
[07:21] <thoreauputic> araw1: no mouse - just arrow keys and space bar etc
[07:21] <araw1> how about BLUE colored GUI ?
[07:21] <kanzen> TokenBad: exiting out of X and logging back in should fix it
[07:21] <araw1> just like that ?
[07:22] <kanzen> araw1: it's curses based GUI
[07:22] <TokenBad> ctrl-alt-backspace right?
[07:22] <kanzen> TokenBad: that should do it of i you're using hte default window manager I think system>logout
[07:23] <TokenBad> ok back
[07:23] <kanzen> type: umount /home/windows && ls -ld /home/windows
[07:23] <kanzen> and show me the output
[07:24] <glDaher> got a problem, no screen res above 1024
[07:24] <kanzen> if it doesn't work, reboot, TokenBad
[07:24] <TokenBad> drwxr-xr-x  2 tokenbad tokenbad 4096 2005-06-10 11:54 /home/windows
[07:24] <glDaher> I could get more than that on mandrake
[07:24] <matthew_w> How do I edit the main menubar...?
[07:24] <TokenBad> it shows I can access it that way
[07:24] <TokenBad> but not when its mounted
[07:25] <gm78> how do i disable gpg checking in apt (trying to install a few sarge packages)
[07:25] <matthew_w> More of a gnome question really
[07:25] <gm78> (sid packages i mean)
[07:26] <nickrud> gm78, you can just ignore them, or import debian-keyring into apt-key
[07:26] <nickrud> me, I wouldn't install them :)
[07:26] <greg> hey, i accidently screwed up my gnome, somehow the top bar ended up on the right, and i can't move it back to the top for some reason, any ideas why?
[07:27] <gm78> nickrud : synaptic refuses to install anything that isnt verified....and the packages cant be found elsewhere as far as i can
[07:27] <gm78> tell
[07:27] <nickrud> greg, it's because you can't grab taht thing with the mouse.
[07:27] <greg> nickrud, can i do it manually then?
[07:27] <kanzen> TokenBad: what is the UID/GID for your account? 1000?
[07:28] <nickrud> greg, yeah, with app->system tools->Configuration editor
[07:28] <nickrud> greg, I really can't help you there, I'm not that brave
[07:28] <TokenBad> no idea kanzen
[07:29] <nickrud> greg, hang on a sec, I'll tell you where, I did that myself
[07:29] <gm78> nickrud : these packages arent from debians repositories, they are in another third party repository
[07:29] <greg> okay cool
[07:29] <nickrud> gm, the not brave thing was for you :)
[07:29] <kanzen> tokenbad: type grep tokenbad /etc/passwd
[07:29] <greg> nickrud, lol, figured it was for me
[07:29] <gm78> nickrud : oh, lol
[07:30] <nickrud> gm78, and double for someone not even debian :)
[07:30] <TokenBad> yeah 1000
[07:30] <greg> how do I use && in bash? i've seen it used a few times, and not really sure what it's used for
[07:31] <araw1> what is the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu ?
[07:31] <Koala> Does anyone know why a CD with an .avi movie on it will show up using Unbuntu and I can read the files on it, but it Kubuntu it's like the same cd doesn't exist and nothing can be read on it??!?
[07:31] <greg> araw1, i think kubuntu focuses on a more kde centric platform
[07:31] <TokenBad> kubuntu uses kde
[07:31] <TokenBad> ubuntu uses gnome
[07:31] <greg> BUT you can use kde on ubuntu
[07:31] <kanzen> TokenBad: type mount -o uid=1000,gid=1000 /home/windows
[07:31] <greg> i have it installed
[07:31] <kanzen> as root
[07:31] <araw1> ah, only in GUI ?
[07:31] <araw1> but all their apps system, configs are the same right ?
[07:32] <greg> araw1, install with synaptic, then select the session on the login screen
[07:32] <greg> session will give you a choice of KDE or GNOME
[07:32] <nickrud> greg, in the left panel, expand apps to /apps/panel/toplevels/top_panel_screen0, and change, in the right panel, orientation back to top
[07:32] <greg> ok
[07:32] <kanzen> greg: command1 arg1 && command2 arg2
[07:32] <greg> sec
[07:32] <TokenBad> mount: can't find /home/windows in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[07:32] <araw1> i just downloaded ubuntu....
[07:32] <araw1> what is best for newbies, ubuntu or kubuntu ?
[07:32] <kanzen> command2 goes if command1 didn't error out
[07:32] <araw1> :)
[07:32] <gm78> does anyone know how to make synaptic ignore gpg checks?
[07:32] <sinope> hi, i have a problem
[07:32] <kanzen> TokenBad: type mount -o uid=1000,gid=1000 /dev/hdd1 /home/windows
[07:33] <sinope> for some reason, i can't authenticate packages any more
[07:33] <greg> kanzen, ie, cat bla.txt bla && grep bla.txt bla?
[07:33] <sinope> now every time i download a package it warns me that it's unauthenticated
[07:33] <TokenBad> k
[07:33] <TokenBad> no error msg that time
[07:33] <sinope> anyone know why this could be?
[07:33] <dr_willis> TokenBad,  heh you STILL trying to get that working?
[07:33] <kanzen> TokenBad: now do ls -ld /home/windows
[07:33] <sinope> i DID do something to the system
[07:33] <sinope> ... i MOVED it :P
[07:33] <sinope> from chicago to new york
[07:33] <sinope> but how could that change anything......?
[07:33] <TokenBad> drwxr-xr-x  189 tokenbad tokenbad 65536 1969-12-31 16:00 /home/windows
[07:34] <TokenBad> yeah dr_willis
[07:34] <TokenBad> I am a sad sad person
[07:34] <araw1> is Shipit in Ubuntu still working ?
[07:34] <TokenBad> but think kanzen fixed me
[07:34] <quam> should be arawl
[07:34] <ablyss> brb - smoke
[07:34] <hondje> can anyone post bugs to ubuntu's bugzilla? It's giving me an oddball error
[07:34] <chillywilly> hey, I get md5sum errors on several debs from the hoary archives
[07:34] <kanzen> greg: yes... if I were to type "cat blah.txt && echo success" I would see "success" if "cat blah.txt" worked out for me
[07:34] <chillywilly> MD5Sum mismatch
[07:34] <kanzen> TokenBad: type "mount" and make sure /home/windows shows up
[07:35] <TokenBad> you fixed it kanzen!!!
[07:35] <TokenBad> thanks so much
[07:35] <TokenBad> just copied a file
[07:35] <nickrud> chillywilly, and sinope , us.archive is bad :)
[07:35] <kanzen> TokenBad: no sweat... one question though
[07:35] <quam> chillywilly, change the repositories from us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com
[07:35] <kanzen> TokenBad: is this something that you are going to be mounting and unmounting regularly?
[07:35] <chillywilly> bah
[07:35] <TokenBad> hope not
[07:35] <TokenBad> I want it mounted all the time
[07:35] <quam> north american repositories are fucked up at the moment
[07:35] <hypa7ia> haha i thought so
[07:35] <hypa7ia> couldn't install gftp
[07:36] <greg> nickrud, thanks
[07:36] <greg> that was an obvious answer, sorry for asking a stupid question
[07:36] <greg> lol
[07:36] <sinope> chillywilly: but i use the canadian mirror! :P
[07:36] <nickrud> greg, np, it is ugeley, isn't it
[07:36] <greg> yep
[07:36] <kanzen> TokenBad: then just add uid=1000,gid=1000 to your /etc/fstab
[07:36] <snadge> does latest ubuntu support madwifi driver? :)
[07:36] <hypa7ia> i think ca.archive is messed up too
[07:36] <hypa7ia> can anyone confirm?
[07:36] <nickrud> greg, not a simple answer, really
[07:36] <sinope> chillywilly: what file am i changing ? /etc/apt/sources.list ??
[07:36] <hondje> hypa7ia: it is
[07:36] <chillywilly> done
[07:36] <kanzen> TokenBad: so the options should read rw,uid=1000,gid=1000
[07:36] <chillywilly> works now
[07:36] <chillywilly> thanks
[07:37] <nickrud> yesterday ca and us were in the topic as bad
[07:37] <sinope> ah
[07:37] <hypa7ia> so the temp fix is to just remove the ca. from sources.plist?
[07:37] <sinope> so what do i change.....
[07:37] <hondje> hypa7ia: yes
[07:37] <greg> is there any good alternatives to xcdroast ?
[07:37] <quam> sinope: yeah, sources.list, take the us out of the http://'s
[07:37] <kanzen> greg: k3b
[07:37] <greg> for cdrecord/dvdrecord frontends
[07:37] <TokenBad> ok thanks
[07:37] <quam> so it's just http://archive.ubuntu.com
[07:37] <greg> it's included with Ubuntu?
[07:37] <sinope> i've got archive.ubuntu.com, ca.archive.ubuntu.com and security.ubuntu.com
[07:37] <sinope> just dump the ca. ??
[07:37] <sinope> okay :)
[07:37] <quam> yeah
[07:37] <kanzen> greg: it's in the apt repository
[07:37] <nickrud> sinope, exactly
[07:37] <greg> k great
[07:37] <sinope> hmm, who picks the mirrors then?
[07:37] <sinope> server-side?
[07:38] <hypa7ia> wicked, thanks all, and i'll remember to change the mirros back when things get sorted out :-)
[07:38] <kanzen> greg: try apt-cache search k3b
[07:38] <JDahl> greg, gnome has builtin burning capabilities.. you dont need to install anything to write CD/DVDs
[07:38] <greg> kanzen, got it already
[07:38] <greg> :>
[07:38] <greg> it was just sudo apt-get install k3b
[07:38] <chillywilly> nautilus does dvd burning too?
[07:38] <greg> yeah it does, nautilus dvd burning sucks though
[07:38] <sinope> i have to admit i don't really understand what i have here
[07:38] <sinope> in the sources.list
[07:38] <kanzen> speaking of cd burning, is there anything like FreeBSD's burncd command?
[07:39] <greg> cdrecord/dvdrecord
[07:39] <kanzen> burncd is like cdrecord light
[07:39] <sinope> thanks guys
[07:39] <quam> it's just a list of software warehouses, if that makes sense
[07:39] <greg> think so
[07:39] <xMaximex> I just installed ubuntu and i can't install beep-media-player, xine-ui and totem-xine ... they're not in the package list
[07:39] <xMaximex> why ?
[07:39] <JDahl> kanzen, I used to be happy with growisofs
[07:40] <kanzen> syntax for burncd is a little quicker than cdrecord (e.g. burncd -f /dev/cd0 data blah.iso fixate)
[07:40] <kanzen> JDahl: I can live with growisofs :)
[07:40] <bigbill52a> maximex try this in your sources.list
[07:40] <kanzen> didn't even think of that
[07:40] <bigbill52a> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ stable main
[07:40] <sinope> ah all fixed :)
[07:40] <nickrud> quality software houses :)
[07:40] <caonex_> Setting up linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 (2.6.10-34.2) ...
[07:40] <caonex_> /usr/sbin/mkinitrd: Cannot determine root device
[07:40] <caonex_> Failed to create initrd image.
[07:40] <caonex_> dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 (--configure):
[07:40] <caonex_>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[07:40] <caonex_> Errors were encountered while processing:
[07:40] <caonex_>  linux-image-2.6.10-5-386
[07:40] <bigbill52a> loads in the missing multimedia...files
[07:40] <sinope> i thought... wtf did I drop the computer on the corner containing GPG?
[07:40] <sinope> lol
[07:40] <greg> kanzen, also cdparanoia
[07:41] <quam> maximex: add  http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverserse restricted and deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted to your sources.list
[07:41] <bigbill52a> including real player 10
[07:41] <caonex_> what is happening with that image?
[07:41] <TokenBad> ok kanzen...added that to fstab
[07:41] <TokenBad> any way for me to test it?
[07:41] <caonex_> i believe that i already have that image installed, but it keeps prompting me
[07:42] <anmar> any Rosetta admins in here ??
[07:42] <xMaximex> bigbill52a: doesn't work
[07:42] <xMaximex> W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net stable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
[07:42] <bigbill52a> did you apt-get update
[07:42] <kanzen> TokenBad: umount /home/windows && mount /home/windows
[07:42] <xMaximex> yes
[07:43] <nickrud> xMaximex, you can ignore that error, if all you are getting is w32codecs
[07:43] <quailster> help. I tried to install kubuntu and it said that the md5sums are incorrect, and I cannot get kubuntu to install properly. I just did a clean install of hoary an hour ago
[07:43] <kanzen> greg: cdparanoia looks pretty cool
[07:43] <greg> okay, on one install i'm running ubuntu with a radeon 9200se with 128megs and the resolution is at 640x480 and i can't modify. any ideas?
[07:43] <greg> =] 
[07:43] <nickrud> xMaximex, otherwise, you're probably gonna break your system
[07:43] <bigbill52a> sorry i was on the wrong channel..yipes
[07:43] <adiiidas> hi
[07:44] <adiiidas> is ubuntu really a distro?
[07:44] <pepsi> i dunno, is it?
[07:44] <TokenBad> ok
[07:44] <dr_willis> adiiidas,  hmm Yes. :P
[07:44] <anmar> adiiidas, yup. it is based on Debian
[07:44] <adiiidas> someone from #gentoo told me that it was a fake distro
[07:44] <greg> lol
[07:44] <adiiidas> and told me to go here to chat
[07:45] <anmar> adiiidas, hehe... those Gentoos.. why I yada yada
[07:45] <adiiidas> im relatively new to linux
[07:45] <adiiidas> and im doing some exploring
[07:45] <greg> good suggestion they made then
[07:45] <bigbill52a> because kde crashes my xserver in ubuntu, i had switched to debian...and used that marillat source to complete my multimedia files...sorry about the wrong info
[07:45] <adiiidas> im running mandriva on my box right now, but it doesnt support a lot of stuff
[07:45] <eleusis> there are no more new ubuntu-calendar packages? :(
[07:45] <pepsi> why dont you try installing the fake distro known as ubuntu?
[07:46] <adiiidas> do you guys like it?
[07:46] <anmar> adiiidas, get ubuntu 5.04 and install it on your machine. IF you want you can use the live CD release instead , also version 5.04 and enjoy.
[07:46] <greg> adiiidas, install it and find out
[07:46] <bigbill52a> it is getting late...
[07:46] <adiiidas> is the install pretty easy?
[07:46] <pepsi> march was the last month of ubuntu-calendar :(
[07:46] <anmar> adiiidas, it is great. I have it running on my HP Dv1010CA and it rocks.
[07:46] <xMaximex> doesn't work
[07:46] <nickrud> ah march
[07:47] <adiiidas> ok
[07:47] <xMaximex> still not getting totem-xine, xine-ui and beep media
[07:47] <nickrud> xMaximex, you probably really don't want to have ftp.nermin.net in your sources.ist
[07:47] <adiiidas> you guys really send out the cd's for free?
[07:47] <xMaximex> nickrud: i dont have it
[07:47] <adiiidas> no shipping or charges for the cds themselves?
[07:48] <quailster> can anyone here help me with a kubuntu problem?
[07:48] <nickrud> xMaximex, if you were asked for marillat's gpg key, you do have his sources in your list
[07:48] <pepsi> quailster, dont ask to ask, ask to ask to ask, or else
[07:48] <quailster> I already asked, but I guess no one can answer it then
[07:48] <caonex_> where can i see the default charset in my box for the console and everything
[07:48] <caonex_> ?
[07:48] <greg> so does anyone have any ideas on my 640x480 resolution problem?
[07:49] <greg> with the radeon 9200se card
[07:49] <xMaximex> i dont understand, i never had to enter new line in sources.list before
[07:49] <pepsi> quailster, md5sums error?
[07:49] <pepsi> which repositories are you using?
[07:49] <quailster> yes, in synaptic, it said that I have a bunch of md5sum errors
[07:50] <mpm> xMaximex: did you copy someone else's sources.list?  such as ubuntuguide's?
[07:50] <quailster> I can still run Kubuntu, but everything's completely messed up.. for example, the file browser is non-existent
[07:50] <xMaximex> mpm, nop, just the one that come with a fresh install
[07:50] <pepsi> quailster, change your repositories to http://archive.ubuntu.com
[07:50] <adiiidas> does anyone here have a winmodem/conextant 56k and running it on ubuntu?
[07:50] <caonex_> greg, hmm i think i may
[07:50] <caonex_> greg, what monitor do you have?
[07:51] <caonex_> greg, is it a dell?
[07:51] <greg> KDS Visual Sensations
[07:51] <greg> nope
[07:51] <greg> 17"
[07:51] <pepsi> quailster, i had problems with us.archive.ubuntu.com earlier today
[07:51] <caonex_> greg, i had the same problem with a dell
[07:51] <caonex_> greg, go to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and scroll to the monitor seccion
[07:53] <caonex_> greg, paste what you see
[07:53] <caonex_> greg, i am almost certain that the problem is because of monitor
[07:53] <caonex_> not your video card
[07:53] <quailster> pepsi: ok, it's a bit better. there were 16 md5sum errors, now there's only 1
[07:54] <caonex_> greg, are you aware of your vertical and horizontal frequencies, as well as resolutions of your monitor?
[07:54] <nickrud> caonex_, don't ask people to paste here, point them at #flood or pastebin.com
[07:54] <caonex_> nickrud, sorry i thought 3 lines did not matter ;)
[07:54] <greg> caonex_, no clue
[07:54] <nickrud> caonex_, it'll be 4 or more, probably :)
[07:54] <greg> i'd like to use 1024x768
[07:54] <caonex_> greg, ok look, that means it supports that
[07:55] <pepsi> quailster, try another repository then? i dunno
[07:55] <quailster> pepsi: thanks, konqueror is running, and that's all I need for now
[07:55] <pepsi> ok
[07:55] <caonex_> greg, run this tool xorgcfg
[07:56] <caonex_> greg, then click on the monitor icon.
[07:56] <caonex_> greg, then select the resolution and horizontal and vertical frequencies
[07:56] <greg> caonex_, and how do I find those out?
[07:56] <caonex_> grep, to find out the frequencies you can run xresprobe i think
[07:56] <greg> Ok, not to get off track... but I was wondering if anyone knew of a PCI sound card that supported AM/FM
[07:56] <caonex_> greg, hold on
[07:57] <greg> okay thanks
[07:57] <caonex_> greg, let me check
[07:57] <caonex_> greg, xresprobe
[07:57] <greg> # /usr/sbin/xresprobe
[07:57] <greg> Driver must be specified.
[07:57] <caonex_> greg, if it tells you that driver must be specified
[07:58] <greg> yep
[07:58] <caonex_> just do this: xresprobe --help
[07:58] <caonex_> greg, that should do it
[07:58] <caonex_> greg, do not ask me, but i think it is a bug
[07:58] <caonex_> greg, tell me what happens next?
[07:59] <ukato> can someone help me with file permissions
[07:59] <caonex_> ukato, what exactly?
[07:59] <dr_willis> Permission Granted.
[07:59] <dr_willis> :P
[07:59] <greg> sec
[07:59] <caonex_> ukato, just shoot the question
[07:59] <nickrud> lol
[07:59] <ukato> thanks doctor
[07:59] <ukato> so
[07:59] <caonex_> greg, sec?
[07:59] <ukato> i'm trying to give permission for everyone to read, write, and execute my USB device
[07:59] <ukato> which is a mass storage
[08:00] <greg> root@c-67-190-74-10:~ # /usr/sbin/xresprobe --help
[08:00] <greg> id: Visual Sensa
[08:00] <greg> res: 1152x864 1024x768 800x600 640x480
[08:00] <greg> freq: 30-70 50-150
[08:00] <greg> disptype: crt
[08:00] <dr_willis> a usb hard drive?
[08:00] <nickrud> caonex_, I think, like me, he got shite back, cuz we have old monitors (new command, thanks)
[08:00] <dr_willis> or little ram-drive thinggy.?
[08:00] <destiny> hey, is there something special that you need to do to a rw cd before you can write on it again, once it has something on it?
[08:00] <dr_willis> *thingy* how Technicial.
[08:00] <ukato> it's a hard drive
[08:00] <caonex_> nickrud, ??
[08:00] <dr_willis> destiny,  theres some sort of blanking function.
[08:00] <ukato> so the command i used was
[08:01] <dr_willis> ukato,  ok. and is formated for NTFS/Vfat/ Other?
[08:01] <caonex_> greg, there you have your info, write it down for future reference
[08:01] <ukato> yep
[08:01] <nickrud> caonex_, I got blanks on all the lines, like I said, new command :)
[08:01] <ukato> i can read it
[08:01] <ukato> but i can't write to it
[08:01] <destiny> dr_willis go ahead. Was that on the ubuntu guide, I think I saw it there, Ill tell you in a sec.
[08:01] <caonex_> greg, did you run the tool i told you? xorgcfg?
[08:01] <greg> I am now
[08:01] <greg> sec
[08:01] <caonex_> nickrud, i do not why but i am not getting the humor and i am trying here
[08:01] <ukato> i used the command:
[08:01] <dr_willis> SOmeone was in here just earlier asking almost an identical question.. but i wasent payig attention.
[08:01] <hondje> ukato: use rw
[08:02] <ukato> chmod a=rwx /home/user/usb
[08:02] <ukato> is that right
[08:02] <caonex_> nickrud, i do not know what lines you talking and command ? is it xorgcfg?
[08:02] <caonex_> nickrud, the old?
[08:02] <nickrud> caonex_, no humor, except that greg's answer came in exactly as I hit return. If it'd come in a second eariler, you wouldn't have seen my line :)
[08:02] <dr_willis> destiny,  i recall its a command line option to cdrecord.. or many cd burning front ends have it in their menus
[08:02] <destiny> yeah, it is there, dr_willis I thought it awas there, I was looking at the wiki, tho.
[08:02] <hondje> ukato: a+wrx
[08:02] <dr_willis> destiny,  the cdrecord howto may have it.
[08:02] <robert> etq
[08:02] <caonex_> nickrud, you mean because he should have done it in flood?
[08:02] <destiny> dr_willis thanks, Ill go tr that now.
[08:03] <ukato> does the equal sign now work?
[08:03] <caonex_> nickrud, #flood i mean
[08:03] <robert> reuyjr
[08:03] <nickrud> caonex_, please ignore me, I was following along, and just got out of sync due to lag. my bad, totally
[08:03] <caonex_> nickrud, sorry dude. Our frame of references are way off ;)
[08:03] <adiiidas> i ordered the installation cds, they really wont charge me correct?
[08:03] <hondje> ukato: oh hey, = does work, my bad
[08:03] <caonex_> nickrud, no hard feelings just trying to catch up with you
[08:03] <ukato> hondje, ok, cool
[08:04] <caonex_> nickrud, i am not mad or anything.
[08:04] <ukato> hondje, so i can read stuff on it
[08:04] <ukato> i just can't copy or remove stuff from it
[08:04] <nickrud> caonex_, likewise, we are just totally out of sync, except for good will
[08:04] <hondje> ukato: you need to mount it rw. Are you using fstab to mount it, or just the mount command? If it's the latter, use -w
[08:04] <gm78> Does anyone know how i can install Transcode on Ubuntu. It won't compile, make keeps exiting with an error
[08:04] <ukato> which i think is "write"
[08:04] <ukato> mount commant
[08:04] <caonex_> nickrud, hehe yeah
[08:04] <ukato> yay
[08:04] <ukato> thank you
[08:04] <caonex_> nickrud, he left i wonder why?
[08:05] <nickrud> caonex_, my fault, probably, because I distracted you.
[08:05] <gm78> from the looks of yahoo it is impossible to get transcode to run on ubuntu
[08:05] <caonex_> nickrud, nope nobodys, i was waiting for him to answer something and he did not. He just said to wait a second.
[08:05] <Ben_Babcock> Hi . . . I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my other computer, but after I press Enter from the boot screen, it won't respond to my keyboard input anymore. :(
[08:05] <nickrud> caonex_, been there
[08:06] <hondje> gm78: No, runs fine for me
[08:06] <ukato> hondje, can i bother you again for a second
[08:06] <hondje> ukato: sure
[08:06] <gm78> hondje : may i ask how in gods name u managed to get it running?
[08:06] <hondje> gm78: I used the source pkg in us.archive.allthat
[08:06] <gm78> Ben_Babcock : what kind of keyboard do u have?
[08:06] <aiw> i would like to change a compilation option for a debian package, is tere some way to do that?
[08:07] <Ben_Babcock> gm78: It's a Toshiba Satellite laptop.
[08:07] <gm78> hondje : what command compiles a src deb ? so in know which man page to read :P
[08:07] <nanta> olo mae
[08:07] <gm78> BenBabcock : not sure then....i was thinking it might be a dell keyboard
[08:07] <hondje> gm78: apt-get build-dep transcode will build your deps, apt-get source -b transcode builds it
[08:08] <hondje> gm78: the tricky part is getting the libdivxencore0 pkgs from marillat
[08:08] <adiiidas> do any of you guys play divx tv shows in ubuntu?
[08:08] <gm78> hondje : why is that hard?
[08:08] <nanta> ertgertgerwh
[08:08] <adiiidas> or do you need to download codecs?
[08:08] <hondje> gm78: because it's best done with apt-pinning
[08:08] <caonex_> nickrud, used to work with debian?
[08:08] <mae> I wanna buy a laptop for ubuntu, anyone have any brand suggestions?
[08:09] <hondje> gm78: but it's not terribly hard, and if you don't want to pin you can work around it pretty easily
[08:09] <caonex_> mae, gateway 7426GX
[08:09] <caonex_> mae, thought i am not sure how compatible is it
[08:09] <caonex_> mae, but i think it is a good price for everything bundled with it.
[08:10] <gm78> hondje : i would prefer to be able to compile it from a source tarball
[08:10] <gm78> hondje : ill post my output
[08:10] <nickrud> caonex_, yeah, for a while
[08:10] <hondje> gm78: you can do that too, but then apt doesn't know you have it installed when you want to, for example, apt-get install dvdrip
[08:10] <nalioth_ZzZzZzZ> gm78: remember to use "checkinstall" rather than "make install" (it makes debs from your compiling labors, so its easy to remove and find)
[08:11] <nalioth_ZzZzZzZ> hondje: preach the gospel of checkinstall
[08:11] <gm78> nalioth : thx for the tip
[08:11] <nickrud> mae, I'm not getting one soon, but I've been looking at hp, since they claim that certain brands wil 'be ubuntu compatible'
[08:11] <hondje> I hate checkinstall :)
[08:11] <caonex_> mae, http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/gateway.html
[08:11] <Whistler> How much partitions and what size,filesystem i need to install ubuntu?
[08:11] <caonex_> nickrud, that is before you switched to ubuntu?
[08:12] <nalioth_ZzZzZzZ> hondje: but for a user who has no other way beside source tarball compilation, it keeps the system easy to maintain (from a pkg point of view)
[08:12] <mae> I'm primarily worried about fully functioning acpi-suspend and standby
[08:12] <Whistler> How much partitions and what size,filesystem i need to install ubuntu?
[08:12] <nickrud> caonex_, I'm not really sure I've switched yet. I've use debian for nearly 4 years, and ubuntu for a few months.
[08:12] <HappyFool> Whistler: a reasonable minimum is probably 5 GB or so; i think the default install is 1.8 GB
[08:12] <nalioth_ZzZzZzZ> Whistler: we see your question
[08:12] <HappyFool> Whistler: the default fs is ext3
[08:13] <gm78> nalioth : i get an error during make tho (im trying again, will post it)
[08:13] <hondje> nalioth_ZzZzZzZ: but it encourages people to use it and ends up borking apt :)
[08:13] <caonex_> mae, you can find all laptops there as well. About acpi i think it would work, but not sure, google for it.
[08:13] <Whistler> so i  need 2 partitions? One 5gb other 1gb?
[08:13] <nalioth_ZzZzZzZ> gm78: have you installed "build-essential" via apt-get?
[08:13] <caonex_> mae, not to be rude or anything but money has kept me from experiencing linux in laptop and that is as far as i can tell you
[08:13] <gm78> nalioth : yes i did
[08:13] <HappyFool> Whistler: yeah, you'll need a swap partition too
[08:13] <gm78> it compiles for a while and then errors out
[08:13] <caonex_> mae, it is also a kernel issue
[08:14] <adiiidas> does ubuntu include linuxtant drivers?
[08:14] <hondje> gm78: /query it to me, I might have saw it
[08:14] <HappyFool> Whistler: i guess ~ 1 GB is about right for swap
[08:14] <nalioth_ZzZzZzZ> hondje: if you teach the gospel of 'use apt to build from ubuntu src repos b4 resorting to d/l a 'wild' tgz, things stay pretty much ordered"
[08:14] <Whistler> so for 5gb i have to use ext3 and for swap?
[08:14] <dabaSlon> Whistler depends on your RAM in the computer, why not just let base install do it for you, the partitioning?
[08:14] <d3bian> whistler a good swap would 2wice what ur ram is
[08:14] <gm78> hondje : how do u /query (i dont use irc much)
[08:14] <nalioth_ZzZzZzZ> Whistler: if you are running ubuntu only, you need a swap partition equal to your amount of ram (if ya got a bunch)
[08:14] <hondje> nalioth_ZzZzZzZ: well, tools in a toolkit I guess, can't teach common sense :) I concede
[08:14] <caonex_> nickrud, you dual booting?
[08:15] <Whistler> my ram is 256
[08:15] <nickrud> caonex_, quadruple
[08:15] <d3bian> then u should have 512 or more
[08:15] <hondje> gm78: type /query hondje, it'll open up a new tab in xchat, and post it to me in there
[08:15] <dabaSlon> Whistler then use 256 or 512 of swap.
[08:15] <caonex_> nickrud, my gosh i wish i could
[08:15] <d3bian> a gig is good
[08:15] <mae> caonex_: yes i know, i'm worried about a laptop with supported suspend :)
[08:15] <nickrud> caonex_, grub makes it easy
[08:15] <caonex_> mae, that is what i thought
[08:15] <Whistler> and what kinda of fs to use for swap?
[08:15] <dabaSlon> or whatever, it is very much your choice. Swap will help you when you have a lot of apps open.
[08:15] <caonex_> nickrud, oh i know, that is what i have
[08:15] <caonex_> nickrud, what four os?
[08:15] <d3bian> swap is its own fs whistler
[08:16] <HappyFool> Whistler: it's a swap partition. as dabaslon said, let the installer handle that
[08:16] <d3bian> u dont have to assign one
[08:16] <nickrud> caonex_, win98, debian unstable, hoary, and breezy
[08:16] <caonex_> nickrud, and what are the differences that you distinguish between debian and ubuntu?
[08:16] <Whistler> ok
[08:16] <Whistler> Thx
[08:16] <dabaSlon> omg, my write to CD is actually working. Just to let you guys kno.. I am gonna try sarge now, too.
[08:16] <TokenBad> how install wine on ubuntu?
[08:16] <d3bian> caoenex ubuntu is a system based on debian
[08:16] <caonex_> nickrud, i used debian for quite a while and did not actually know that synaptic existed, until met ubuntu ;) always use console for everything ;)
[08:17] <Red_Tide> I imagine it is the universe and multiverse databases
[08:17] <d3bian> the only diffrent would be the base system
[08:17] <nickrud> caonex_, not a lot, between unstable of jan/feb and hoary, except I do miss resovlconf and hplip
[08:17] <hanseatic> hi everybody
[08:17] <flodnag> hehe i love to use console for everything hehe
[08:17] <caonex_> nickrud, resolvconf to configure /etc/resolv.conf ?
[08:17] <d3bian> u can install synaptic in debian as well nickrud
[08:17] <HappyFool> TokenBad: use synaptic. wine is in hoary's universe repository
[08:17] <d3bian> anyways synaptic is just a gui version of apt
[08:17] <dabaSlon> TokenBad you can try #wine, or #cedega cedega is also similar somewhat to wine(to my shallow knowledge of windows emulators...)
[08:17] <nickrud> caonex_, yeah, and it seems to be back in breezy
[08:18] <Jormundgand> WINE Is Not an Emulator.
[08:18] <dabaSlon> oh, ok, that is good too.
[08:18] <Red_Tide> or just apt-get install wine from command line
[08:18] <TokenBad> cedega is for games though right?
[08:18] <caonex_> nickrud, see what i tell you, i always do vi /etc/resolv.conf
[08:18] <dabaSlon> TokenBad I guess, I am not really into that, I never had to install any of those.
[08:18] <nickrud> d3bian, yeah, but I never used it in debian, and I have no idea what the ubuntians(ites)(whatever) have done to it
[08:18] <caonex_> nickrud, hplip is the new hp driver for multifunction printersm right?
[08:18] <Whistler> [TokenBad]  games and few progs
[08:18] <hanseatic> i've extracted a tarball and want to create an executable by typing make... however i get the error "make: g++: command not found"
[08:19] <d3bian> all u have to do is go to debian's package site and install the deb file for synaptic
[08:19] <nalioth_ZzZzZzZ> TokenBad: did you get sorted out?
[08:19] <nickrud> caonex_, yeah, and here anyway, it kicks hpoj's ass
[08:19] <HappyFool> hanseatic: install the build-essential package
[08:19] <gm78> hanseatic : u need to install g++
[08:19] <caonex_> nickrud, i know i was reading
[08:19] <TokenBad> nalioth_ZzZzZzZ,  yeah
[08:19] <d3bian> besides y would u want such a memmory hugger if u can just use the command line apt-get
[08:19] <hanseatic> gm78: g++ 3.3 is installed
[08:19] <caonex_> nickrud, been doing some research for multifunction printers
[08:19] <dabaSlon> hanseatic sudo aptitude install build-essential
[08:19] <caonex_> nickrud, no money no problems though hehe
[08:19] <gm78> hanseatic : did u run the configure script before trying to compile?
[08:19] <gm78> hondje : I Sent that to u
[08:20] <nickrud> soon, I figure I'll take hondje's advice and build it for hoary
[08:20] <dabaSlon> I still cant believe it actually worked...
[08:20] <adiiidas> does anyone have the linuxtant driver for 56k modems?
[08:20] <dabaSlon> sorry
[08:21] <hanseatic> gm78: the install howto of the program does not describe anything about a configure script. im trying to install dome for linux
[08:21] <caonex_> nickrud, hehe, look do you get an error with linux-image-2.6.10-5X?
[08:21] <dabaSlon> umm:( my Hoary got broken altogether, I had to reinstall:( Now I am in a base configuration, totally new install. This gives me an opportunity, tho, to put Ubuntu on the bigger hard drive.
[08:21] <TokenBad> ok wine is installed
[08:22] <TokenBad> how use it?
[08:22] <adiiidas> ???
[08:22] <aiw> i need to change the flags used to compile a debian package, i have apt-get the source, can i just untar the diff.gz file, edit it then retar it and do a dpkg-buildpackage?
[08:22] <gm78> hanseatic : is there a configure script in the source code directory
[08:22] <caonex_> nickrud, i have been having that problem due to initrd, but i use grub and it is already configured
[08:22] <Madpilot> evening, all. how do I get Ubuntu to run a .jar file as a program - doubleclicking just opens it in Archive Mngr... (and I do have the JRE installed)
[08:22] <HappyFool> adiiidas: i think that's 'linuxant', not 'linuxtant'. try googling for 'ubuntu linuxant'
[08:22] <nickrud> caonex_, neither in hoary, nor in breezy (I'm not ready yet for .12)
[08:22] <HappyFool> TokenBad: you probably need a windows program to run
[08:22] <dabaSlon> ivoks do you think that if I should put debian and ubuntu ion the same hard drive, and windows on the other, or windows and debian on one and ubuntu on the other?
[08:22] <dr_willis> TokenBad,  perhaps a read of the wine docs. :P
[08:22] <nalioth_ZzZzZzZ> TokenBad: wine /path/to/win32/executable
[08:22] <dr_willis> TokenBad,  wine /path/to/windows/program/foo.exe
[08:23] <caonex_> nickrud, is -2.6.10-5-386
[08:23] <dr_willis> TokenBad,  and dont expect too much from wine. :P
[08:23] <nalioth_ZzZzZzZ> TokenBad: you may want to run tkwinesetup first, tho
[08:23] <caonex_> nickrud, not .12
[08:23] <sinope> dr_willis: be nice to wine!
[08:23] <sinope> dr_willis: it's nice to me!
[08:23] <nalioth_ZzZzZzZ> or wahteverthe command is called (havin trouble seein the screen_
[08:23] <dabaSlon> so, you be nice to it then...
[08:23] <nickrud> caonex_, I'm not sure what you're saying
[08:23] <dabaSlon> :p
[08:23] <dabaSlon> ivoks, you listening?
[08:23] <dr_willis> sinope,  i still have NEVER gotten it to run AUtoCad. :P lol i need to try again
[08:23] <hanseatic> gm78: there is no configure.* and only one executable script at all called dxfpov
[08:23] <caonex_> nickrud, could you see in #flood?
[08:23] <ChinaCatJones> i am having a problem with grub, and I swear I have tried to help myself
[08:24] <adiiidas> you have to buy this linuxant driver?!?!?!?
[08:24] <sinope> dr_willis: AUTOCAD!?
[08:24] <dabaSlon> ok, find just configure in that folder, jsut a file called configure
[08:24] <HappyFool> adiiidas: i think so, yes
[08:24] <sinope> dr_willis: that's pretty ambitious :P
[08:24] <nickrud> caonex_, now I do
[08:24] <hanseatic> gm78: i am updating g++ right now
[08:24] <adiiidas> noooo!
[08:24] <ChinaCatJones> it errors out with 17
[08:24] <ivoks> dabaSlon: ?
[08:24] <sinope> dr_willis: isn't there autocad for linux?
[08:24] <dr_willis> sinope,  like version 12 :P  from 6+ yrs agol
[08:24] <ChinaCatJones> however. if I leave an XP install disk in the cdrom grub works as advertised
[08:24] <adiiidas> im so poor!
[08:24] <dabaSlon> ivoks do you think that if I should put debian and ubuntu ion the same hard drive, and windows on the other, or windows and debian on one and
[08:24] <dabaSlon>            ubuntu on the other?
[08:24] <dr_willis> sinope,  thers qcad for linux thts free. :P
[08:24] <ChinaCatJones> any ideas?
[08:24] <sinope> dr_willis: hmm, that q makes me worry.... a kde app?
[08:25] <sinope> dr_willis: also, is it any good?
[08:25] <ivoks> dabaSlon: it doesn't matter...
[08:25] <dabaSlon> ok, thanks.
[08:25] <caonex_> nickrud, i did dpkg --configure -a and still
[08:25] <dr_willis> not kde as far as i can tell. :P go try it - its GPL.
[08:25] <dabaSlon> but make a partition for the data, /home, right?
[08:25] <HappyFool> ChinaCatJones: eh. that sounds odd
[08:25] <ivoks> dabaSlon: windows has to be on the first partition on disk, don't forget that...
[08:25] <sinope> dr_willis: be a man and use xfig to do your cad! :D
[08:25] <nalioth_ZzZzZzZ> dabaSlon: doesnt matter, darth grub will find your missing OS
[08:25] <sinope> dr_willis: jk of course, good luck with that, i'm off
[08:26] <dr_willis> actually the last cad stuff i wanted todo was draw out an 'orragami' pattern
[08:26] <HappyFool> ChinaCatJones: how did you install ubuntu? has it worked before?
[08:26] <dabaSlon> ivoks oh really? ok, good to know thanks. Then I also should likely install windows first, right?
[08:26] <ivoks> dabaSlon: that's up to you, there are no ruls...
[08:26] <TokenBad> can see wine not like opening the programs I tried to open
[08:26] <sinope> nalioth_ZzZzZzZ: lilo-wan kenobi will kick darth grub's darkside ass
[08:26] <nalioth_ZzZzZzZ> dabaSlon: windows eats grub if installed afterward
[08:26] <dr_willis> TokenBad,  and what programs are those?
[08:26] <ChinaCatJones> i have installed it before it worked great
[08:26] <ivoks> dabaSlon: yeah, windows first, if you don't want to have so double work later...
[08:27] <TokenBad> bpftp server
[08:27] <TokenBad> terragen
[08:27] <HappyFool> ChinaCatJones: did this specific install work previously ?
[08:27] <hanseatic> gm78: thank you so far... i've maked again... it seems to do something however it reports some warnings: this file includes at least one deprecated or antiquated header...
[08:27] <ChinaCatJones> HappyFool- I was messing with Gentoo and REiserFS on this box, but it has been susequently wiped clean
[08:27] <HappyFool> ChinaCatJones: ok, so what's installed now? and in what order?
[08:27] <ChinaCatJones> yes, I did a default install of the cd
[08:27] <gm78> hanseatic : wait until it errors out and then query me
[08:27] <HappyFool> i mean, in what order did you install
[08:27] <dr_willis> TokenBad,  useing wine to run a ftp server? thats... errr... perverted...
[08:27] <dr_willis> :P
[08:27] <dabaSlon> ivoks ok, thanks, I appreciate it. I borked my AUbuntu the other day. Just started getting kernel panic at boot, and my grub was broken, I think. I decided just to back up the data, and reinstall(i know, Im new still)...
[08:28] <TokenBad> not for someone that not know how to set it up in ubuntu
[08:28] <TokenBad> heheh
[08:28] <ChinaCatJones> Happy Fool- It have installed XP, and then ubuntu
[08:28] <Madpilot> anyone? running .JAR files as progs rather than in Archive Mngr - how to?
[08:28] <HappyFool> ChinaCatJones: and ubuntu has not booted successfully ?
[08:29] <dr_willis> TokenBad,  well first off.. why do you even need a ftp server. :P , install one is as simple as 'sudo apt-get install *nameofFTPserver*   , and ssh can basicially do all  that a ftp server can do for most needs. :P
[08:29] <Ben_Babcock> I'm still having trouble with getting my keyboard to respond during the install (it's on a laptop).  The splash-screen is fine, but once the "Choose Your Language" screen loads, the keyboard no longer works.
[08:29] <dabaSlon> Madpilot jar files are as you may know, Java programs in an archive file. You can perhaps run them from command line, through Java.
[08:29] <ivoks> dabaSlon: you played with breezy?
[08:29] <ChinaCatJones> happy fool- For grins I booted to a XP resucue session and tried fixmbr, which has worked in the past for grub issues, but it didn't this time
[08:29] <vladuz976> hey you guys, what is so different in ubuntu? from debian?
[08:29] <HappyFool> ChinaCatJones: what i'm trying to find out is if you changed anything to make this happen, or if it's been broken from the install
[08:29] <ivoks> dabaSlon: you know, reinstall isn't the solution
[08:29] <dabaSlon> ivoks no, I have no clue what I did.
[08:30] <ivoks> dabaSlon: reinstall is avoiding problems and solutions
[08:30] <ChinaCatJones> happy fool- it has been broken from the install
[08:30] <HappyFool> ChinaCatJones: doh
[08:30] <dr_willis> vladuz976,  'polish' and 'attention to details'  :P
[08:30] <nalioth_ZzZzZzZ> Madpilot: java blah.jar
[08:30] <ivoks> dabaSlon: what kind of kernel panic you get?
[08:30] <TokenBad> never messed with ssh either
[08:30] <HappyFool> ChinaCatJones: the fact the grub works when an XP install CD is present is very strange
[08:30] <synd-> vladuz976, plus it dont take 14 CDs to install Ubuntu as compared to debian :p
[08:30] <vladuz976> like what details?
[08:30] <dr_willis> TokenBad,  ssh is one of the MUST learn about tools. :P
[08:30] <dabaSlon> its gone now, tho. I have it on the other computer
[08:31] <dr_willis> TokenBad,  right after BASH :P  heh
[08:31] <dabaSlon> just a sec Ill get you the pastebin
[08:31] <ChinaCatJones> HappyFool- i've scratched a bald spot on my head from it
[08:31] <TokenBad> I have alot to learn
[08:31] <nickrud> caonex_, I'm kinda impressed with synaptic, after using aptitude for a while,
[08:31] <TokenBad> cause don't know bash either
[08:31] <TokenBad> heheh
[08:32] <HappyFool> ChinaCatJones: can you briefly describe your setup? number of hard-drives, IDE/SATA, other pertinent details?
[08:32] <dr_willis> TokenBad,  yep.. i'd say spending an hr or 12 reading a few bash tutorials are worth the trouble.
[08:32] <synd-> nickrud, synaptic rocks. but nothings as fun as apt-get  :D
[08:32] <vladuz976> so you guys think i am better off with ubuntu than fedora?
[08:32] <nickrud> I haven't really looked, but I wonder if they use the same database to track 'automatically
[08:32] <caonex_> nickrud, i do not know, but i still use my apt-get
[08:32] <nickrud> installed' packages
[08:32] <synd-> vladuz976, very much : )
[08:32] <dr_willis> vladuz976,  from what i hear about Fedora  - YES>
[08:32] <dr_willis> :P
[08:32] <vladuz976> synd, why?
[08:33] <caonex_> nickrud, there is something with me that like to do a lot manually, debian got me in that
[08:33] <synd-> vladuz976, ease of use
[08:33] <vladuz976> dr_willis, what do you hear?
[08:33] <synd-> vladuz976, helpful community
[08:33] <dabaSlon> ivoks http"://pastebin.ca/14010
[08:33] <vladuz976> synd, easier than mandrake?
[08:33] <synd-> vladuz976, yes
[08:33] <nickrud> caonex_, I do a lot of stuff manually, cuz I'm scripting disabled
[08:33] <synd-> mandriva*
[08:33] <dr_willis> vladuz976,  i see a lot of funky issues in other channels with people useing Fedora. rarely see same  problems here.
[08:33] <ChinaCatJones> HappyFool- I have 2 ide disks, XP on /dev/hda1 and ubuntu on /dev/hdb
[08:33] <flodnag> I have ran both fedora and ubuntu and personally like them both
[08:33] <flodnag> never had a problem with either
[08:34] <flodnag> dont much care for up2date though
[08:34] <vladuz976> synd-, so where on the website does it say what softwares it comes with?  what version of gnome?
[08:34] <ivoks> dabaSlon: this is ubuntu from sarge? :)
[08:34] <synd-> vladuz976, it should be on there somewhere
[08:34] <dr_willis> gnome - 2.10 is what i got. :P
[08:35] <ivoks> dabaSlon: or from hoary?
[08:35] <dr_willis> is that the latest? i think it is.
[08:35] <vladuz976> 2.10 is the lastest
[08:35] <ivoks> dabaSlon: you upgraded sarge/warthy to hoary? :)
[08:35] <dabaSlon> ivoks well, the message was from hoary.
[08:35] <synd-> vladuz976, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/applications/document_view
[08:35] <HappyFool> ChinaCatJones: hrm. can you put the output of 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda', 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb', 'mount' and your /boot/grub/menu.lst file up on a paste-bin? e.g. http://rafb.net/paste/
[08:35] <ivoks> dabaSlon: solution is trivial
[08:35] <dabaSlon> I upgraded warty to hoary, and it worked for a while, then I think I may have screwed up menu.lst.
[08:36] <dabaSlon> ivoks ok, go ahead:)
[08:36] <nickrud> kids :)
[08:36] <ivoks> dabaSlon: no, this has nothing to do with grub, grub works fine
[08:36] <dabaSlon> so what was it?
[08:36] <ivoks> dabaSlon: udev
[08:36] <HappyFool> ChinaCatJones: does windows XP boot ok without the CD?
[08:36] <dabaSlon> was that?
[08:36] <ivoks> dabaSlon: your udev is messed up
[08:36] <ivoks> i saw this on sarge -> hoary instalations too
[08:37] <dabaSlon> what did I do, tho, I wonder?
[08:37] <vladuz976> synd-, thanks
[08:37] <synd-> vladuz976, yup
[08:37] <ivoks> dabaSlon: sec...
[08:37] <dabaSlon> k
[08:37] <dabaSlon> Im gonna reboot, can you wait?
[08:38] <ivoks> dabaSlon: wait...
[08:38] <dabaSlon> ok
[08:38] <ivoks> dabaSlon: when grub shows up, press e
[08:38] <dabaSlon> I just wanna plug in the other hard disk, to get the files from it, if we need them.
[08:38] <dabaSlon> nono, its done, all gone.
[08:38] <dabaSlon> that install is all gone
[08:38] <ivoks> dabaSlon: ?
[08:38] <vladuz976> synd-, is there something like yum in fedora?
[08:39] <ivoks> yum? :)
[08:39] <ivoks> lol
[08:39] <ivoks> yum is just poor copy of apt-get :)
[08:39] <vladuz976> why poor?
[08:39] <nickrud> someone finally caught on
[08:39] <flodnag> yum is in fedora =/
[08:39] <vladuz976> yeah
[08:39] <dabaSlon> I reinstalled, as I said...what was it tho, what did I do? It wouuld sometimes hang before it wiould even count the memory
[08:40] <HappyFool> my impression of yum is that it's a bit slow, and a memory hog
[08:40] <ivoks> dabaSlon: my guess is that your udev was broken
[08:40] <flodnag> at least you can still install apt and synaptic in fedora but this is the ubuntu # hehe
[08:40] <ivoks> dabaSlon: i don't know how or why, but it was...
[08:40] <dabaSlon> then sometimes it would try to start grub, and the screen would be like grub...grub...grub...grub...
[08:40] <ivoks> vladuz976: yum is redhat's copy of apt system
[08:40] <dabaSlon> aha, well, can I get teh files I had on the ahrd disk, tho, and take a look at the udev fikles to see if it was that?
[08:40] <ivoks> vladuz976: as any copy, it doesn't get as good as original
[08:40] <synd-> vladuz976, apt-get kicks all other "yum" types
[08:40] <synd-> kicks their ass, that is : )
[08:41] <vladuz976> so unbuntu uses apt-get
[08:41] <flodnag> yum = yellow dog update manager ; developed for yellow dog linux
[08:41] <ivoks> dabaSlon: don't bother with that, if you allready installed new system
[08:41] <synd-> vladuz976, yes
[08:41] <dabaSlon> I wanna kno what I did kinda...
[08:41] <ivoks> flodnag: same thing :)
[08:41] <flodnag> it is not even fedoras poor idea of apt
[08:41] <ivoks> dabaSlon: how could i know what you did?
[08:41] <dabaSlon> how can I find out?
[08:42] <caonex_> nickrud, later dude time to sleep. I am sure i will see you later, thanks for everything.
[08:42] <nickrud> flodnag, thanks for the trivia, I always wondered why ti was called that
[08:42] <dabaSlon> I can look at all the files...
[08:42] <ivoks> dabaSlon: checkout your memory (brain memory, not computer one :)
[08:42] <flodnag> hehe
[08:42] <nickrud> caonex_, better success next time
[08:42] <flodnag> yum = yuck
[08:42] <ChinaCatJones> HappyFool- getting that stuff together, but no XP won't boot either without the disk
[08:42] <dabaSlon> hehe, I dont have a clue what could cause it, tho. Ok, well, thats that... I am gonna install all my OSes now.
[08:42] <dabaSlon> ttys
[08:44] <ivoks> but, yum has one thing better than apt-get
[08:44] <Davey> Anyone know how to get the java-gnome stuff in Ubuntu?
[08:44] <vladuz976> ivoks, what?
[08:44] <ivoks> with apt-get, if you change one package in repository, you have do download whole Packages.gz
[08:44] <ivoks> with yum, you download only diff
[08:45] <ChinaCatJones> HappyFool- http://rafb.net/paste/results/tDfVSY74.html
[08:45] <ivoks> but with fast broadband connections, this isn't relevant
[08:45] <vladuz976> minor
[08:45] <flodnag> yup
[08:45] <HappyFool> ivoks: hey, have some sympathy for those of us of dial-up :P
[08:45] <nickrud> huh, I ran a dialup for a long time, it's not necessarly minor
[08:45] <ivoks> HappyFool: sorry, stone age people :)
[08:46] <flodnag> best thing is to use what works for ya
[08:46] <ivoks> well, i hated that while i was on dial-up...
[08:46] <aiw> i need to change the flags used to compile a package, someone just kindly explained i can use dpkg-source -x to extract the source package, now what exactly do i do to edit then install the new package?
[08:46] <flodnag> im shure both apt and yum will improve in time
[08:47] <ivoks> aiw: apt-get source <package>
[08:47] <crimsun> aiw: edit the appropriate variables in $(pwd)/debian/rules, then build the deb
[08:47] <ivoks> aiw: then you have to go to <package>-<version> directory
[08:47] <nickrud> flodnag, I was actually kidding, aptitude -d update && aptitude -d installl worked really well overnight
[08:47] <ivoks> aiw: and edit debian/rules file
[08:47] <vladuz976> synd-, no graphical installer, how about setting up dual boot with win? that complicated
[08:47] <HappyFool> ChinaCatJones: you will be amazed to hear that everything looks OK
[08:48] <aiw> ok, thanks!
[08:48] <ivoks> aiw: then apt-get build-dep <package>
[08:48] <ChinaCatJones> HappyFool- i was rereviewing menu.1st what about the kopt and groot?  They appear to remed out
[08:48] <flodnag> interesting nickrud ill have to try that sometime
[08:48] <ivoks> aiw: and then fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage
[08:48] <nickrud> flodnag, not unless you get kicked back to the stone age :)
[08:48] <stjepan> hello
[08:48] <HappyFool> ChinaCatJones: notice the 'BEGIN AUTOMAGIC' thing above that
[08:48] <stjepan> I have downloaded dillo from respository
[08:49] <stjepan> How can I install it?
[08:49] <HappyFool> ChinaCatJones: anyway, the important stuff is from line 143 down
[08:49] <ivoks> stjepan: zemljak :)
[08:49] <ChinaCatJones> HappyFool- I don't really know grub
[08:49] <ivoks> stjepan: what do you need dlilo for?
[08:49] <HappyFool> ChinaCatJones: fair enough
[08:49] <flodnag> hehe it is possible nick not everywhere i have lived has had a brodband isp available
[08:49] <ivoks> stjepan: or you are talking about lilo
[08:50] <HappyFool> ChinaCatJones: i think that the double / single commented stuff in that section is used by ubuntu to generate the section below
[08:50] <nickrud> flodnag, if you're serious, it's actually aptitude update && aptitude -d upgrade && aptitude -d install (from an old script)
[08:50] <HappyFool> ChinaCatJones: (hd1,0) corresponds to /dev/hdb1, and (hd0,0) corresponds to /dev/hda1
[08:51] <stjepan> ivoks, no, dillo
[08:51] <ChinaCatJones> brb
[08:51] <HappyFool> ChinaCatJones: *puzzlement* without the CD, you do still get a grub boot menu though ?
[08:51] <shen> how can I disable the trackpad on my ibook g4 running hoary?
[08:52] <flodnag> anyone ever have any success geting dual monitors running in horay
[08:52] <flodnag> i would like to find a good guide to read for that
[08:53] <aiw> ivoks: i have edited the debian/rules, when i apt-get build-dep the package (courier-authdaemon) apt wants to remove automake and php4-dev, and install 21 other packages, does that seem right to you?
[08:53] <HappyFool> flodnag: maybe this is a starting point: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XineramaHowTo   -- seems to be for warty though
[08:53] <ivoks> aiw: yes :)
[08:54] <flodnag> thanks ill take a look
[08:54] <ivoks> aiw: depends what package we are talking about
[08:54] <aiw> ivoks: i don't need automake of php4-dev?, i am trying to recompile courier-authdaemon so i can use it with vpopmail and qmail
[08:55] <aiw> i just upgraded from woody this evening, and this is the only thing that broke
[08:55] <ivoks> aiw: how did you update?
[08:55] <heheh2> what is the command to install a .deb package ?
[08:55] <HappyFool> dpkg -i <package.deb>
[08:56] <heheh2> thanks  :)
[08:56] <aiw> ivoks: aptitude -f --with-recommends dist-upgrade
[08:56] <ivoks> aiw: :(((
[08:57] <ivoks> aiw: bad why to do that
[08:57] <ChinaCatJones> HappyFool: http://rafb.net/paste/results/XUxO3s39.html, this leads me to believe that it is find the grub loader at some level
[08:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> anyone know the best deal for broadband in san francisco?
[08:57] <aiw> ivoks: it is from the sarge relase notes
[08:57] <ivoks> aiw: s/why/way/
[08:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> assuming you don't want cable or a phone line.
[08:57] <HappyFool> ChinaCatJones: you don't get the boot menu then?
[08:57] <ivoks> aiw: you whould've use pining
[08:58] <IIIEars> BrokenLadder - Net Stumbler?
[08:58] <flodnag> hahaha
[08:58] <HappyFool> ChinaCatJones: it sounds like the presence / absence of the CD changes your drive order, but i am not familiar with that level of the system
[08:58] <ChinaCatJones> HappyFool- I get no boot menu, and I don't know if this matters, but ctl-alt-del doesn't work
[08:59] <aiw> ivoks: to use the old version of courier, it is quite old, i had it pinned, but thought it would be more stable to move forward a bit
[08:59] <HappyFool> ChinaCatJones: i don't know what significance the lack of ctl-alt-del has, if any
[08:59] <ivoks> aiw: you should've upgrade whole distribution with pining
[09:00] <heheh2> i downloaded a file Ymessenger.deb and install it using dpkg command: I got this error, dpkg: error processing ymessenger (--install):
[09:00] <heheh2> :(
[09:00] <aiw> ivoks: alas that has already passed, so now i must fix imap and squirrelmail
[09:00] <ivoks> heheh2: you left out most important part
[09:00] <heheh2> what most important ?
[09:00] <ivoks> aiw: what are you trying to do?
[09:00] <heheh2> i wnt to install yahoo messenger
[09:01] <heheh2> in my ubuntu system
[09:01] <ivoks> heheh2: part after (--install):
[09:01] <aiw> i need to recompile courier-authdaemon with vpopmail support
[09:01] <mdz> heheh2: does gaim not work for you?
[09:01] <ivoks> heheh2: it tells you what's wrong
[09:01] <heheh2> can gaim works with yahoo messenger
[09:01] <heheh2> im new to Linux
[09:01] <ivoks> heheh2: yes
[09:01] <heheh2> this is my first time in fact
[09:01] <mdz> heheh2: welcome aboard
[09:01] <IIIEars> Welcome
[09:02] <heheh2> :)
[09:02] <ivoks> aiw: and ubuntu's courier-authdaemon doesn't support it?
[09:02] <heheh2> i got the package from this Link: http://messenger.yahoo.com/messenger/download/unix.html#debian
[09:02] <heheh2> but when i try to install by following their instruction
[09:02] <heheh2> i got an error
[09:02] <IIIEars> heheh2 - trust me it gets easier.
[09:02] <mdz> heheh2: gaim supports AIM, gadu-gadu, groupwise, IRC, Jabber, MSN, Napster and Yahoo
[09:02] <aiw> ivoks: no, the maintainer stopped supporting it around 0.37, they are at 0.47 now
[09:03] <ivoks> aiw: lol, nice...
[09:03] <ivoks> aiw: then, ok, go with removing/installing packages
[09:03] <JosephSpiros> Hmm, I'm trying to install gstreamer0.8-mad to enable mp3 support in gstreamer apps
[09:03] <aiw> ivoks: i wonder why it wants to remove automake, and php4dev, they don't seem related
[09:03] <JosephSpiros> however, libmad0, a dependency of gstreamer0.8-mad, isn't matching it's md5sum
[09:04] <JosephSpiros> so, apt won't install it
[09:04] <JosephSpiros> any suggestions?
[09:04] <hondje> JosephSpiros: us repos are borked
[09:04] <heheh2> im connected now, using GAIM
[09:04] <heheh2> :)
[09:04] <heheh2> thanks a lot! once again
[09:04] <hondje> JosephSpiros: take out all the us. in /etc/apt/sources.list and apt-get update
[09:04] <heheh2> i like this distros :)
[09:04] <ivoks> aiw: maybe some package that development depends on is in confflict with php4-dev
[09:04] <ivoks> aiw: aiw like libtool
[09:05] <JosephSpiros> hondje: oh, alright
[09:05] <ivoks> aiw: but i think automake is problematic one
[09:05] <JosephSpiros> hondje: what happened?
[09:05] <hondje> JosephSpiros: I dunno
[09:05] <aiw> ivoks: ok, i will try it, if this fails, i will have to compile it by hand
[09:05] <ivoks> aiw: php4-dev depends on automake1.4
[09:05] <nickrud> JosephSpiros, us has been broke for a day or two, good question
[09:06] <ivoks> aiw: aiw and automake1.4 conflicts with automake1.5
[09:06] <JosephSpiros> no one knows why?
[09:06] <aiw> ivoks: ahhh, that explains why they get removed, thanks!
[09:06] <JosephSpiros> that's worrysome...
[09:06] <IIIEars> GAIM - private IM opened immediately <#ffffff>f76<#304660>i<#a88562> <#a04388>s - etc - does this mean something?
[09:07] <Whistler> #ffffff is color
[09:07] <Whistler> html color codes
[09:07] <Madpilot> IIIEars: they're all hexdec colour codes, I think?
[09:07] <IIIEars> Ah - 0kay missing font...(shrug)
[09:08] <billd> I have a laptop with an i830M in it and I am trying to use it as a dual head card.  For the most part I am using the xorg.conf that I found at http://www.chronox.de/x40_linux/xorg.conf (I only changed the mouse and fonts sections), but the server fails to start with the error "... No usable screens found...".  I can get it to work if I remove the BusID 0:2:0 from the second device section (Intel1).  The problem is that according
[09:08] <billd>  to everything that I have read says that	without specifying this BusID you can't get the dual head on this card	to work.  Does anyone know why this could be?
[09:08] <IIIEars> Only thing i missed is the "Sexy Haxor Cam. - lol
[09:10] <nickrud> IIIEars, you are just plain evil, or too much fun to have around :)
[09:11] <IIIEars> Nickrud - My wife thinks so too...
[09:11] <Davey> isn't there a tool to automatically mount and unmount CD drives when you press the button the front?
[09:11] <nickrud> IIIEars, should I pity her?
[09:11] <IIIEars> nickrud - lol
[09:11] <nickrud> ;')
[09:13] <aiw> ivoks: i am about to rebuild the package, the command was fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage packagename?
[09:14] <ivoks> aiw: no
[09:14] <ivoks> aiw: just fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage
[09:14] <crimsun> or just debuild $target
[09:14] <crimsun> or any number of ways given devscripts and co.
[09:14] <ivoks> there are many ways :)
[09:15] <IIIEars> #$% - printer didn't work.. try everything, tweak settings, probe devices, reboot, start kubuntu nothing, Install windows, tweak cuss, give up. unplug printer and replug it. - PRESTO full color. - linux is technical. - :x
[09:16] <nickrud> sugar ....
[09:17] <nickrud> ...metablolizes....
[09:18] <aiw> ivoks: thanks, it's building
[09:18] <ivoks> aiw: np
[09:18] <ivoks> aiw: did you change your version number? :)
[09:18] <aiw> ivoks: so this should end up producing one or more .debs?
[09:19] <aiw> ivoks: no, should i have?
[09:19] <ivoks> aiw: depends on source
[09:19] <ivoks> aiw: well, new release of that package will overwrite yours :)
[09:20] <learn25> hi
[09:20] <aiw> ivoks: i could pin it in place then, how do i change the version number?
[09:20] <ivoks> aiw: dch -i
[09:20] <learn25> i'm a ubuntu newbie :) am i welcome here?
[09:20] <Madpilot> IIIEars: isn't hardware fun?
[09:20] <nickrud> learn25, always
[09:20] <hondje> learn25: You're the reason for us being here!
[09:20] <ivoks> aiw: that will open changelog where you can enter your changes and change version number
[09:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol. "am i welcome here"
[09:20] <ivoks> aiw: but, use pining
[09:21] <learn25> anybody can help me?
[09:21] <aiw> ivoks: cool, i almost feel like a developer :-)
[09:21] <IIIEars> Madpilot - going to be nice to every new user. they will pave the way to better mfg. support.
[09:21] <ivoks> aiw: well, join #ubuntu-motu
[09:21] <ivoks> aiw: we could use some help
[09:21] <Madpilot> IIIEars: absolutely.
[09:21] <nickrud> learn25, sometimes the right people for your question
[09:22] <aiw> ivoks: how can i help?
[09:22] <learn25> where to find the right people to give me some technical advice?
[09:22] <Madpilot> but sometimes hardware gripes are OS-neutral - I'm currently wondering if my RAM is borked...
[09:22] <ivoks> aiw: with packaging
[09:22] <HappyFool> learn25: ask specific questions here
[09:22] <learn25> can i type my problem here?
[09:22] <learn25> ok
[09:22] <aiw> ivoks: that i might be able to do :-)
[09:22] <hondje> might have to mosey over there
[09:22] <nickrud> learn25, ask here, and, if the right people aren't here now, they'll be around later
[09:24] <aiw> ivoks:  i have a colocated server running sarge, how dangerous is it to migrate it to ubuntu? it is a production server, so i try to baby it
[09:24] <learn25> i have MSI PC11B wifi card using RaLink 2460 chipset. I used ndiswrapper to load the win98 drivers so that my card will work on ubuntu and its now working :)
[09:24] <stjepan> hello
[09:24] <learn25> here's the problem:
[09:24] <ivoks> aiw: well, i did sarge -> hoary on three serves... went without problems, but... i had one with problems
[09:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> aiw, why move it to Ubuntu?
[09:24] <batma8> sooooooooooo my wirless only wants to send packets.doesnt like to recieve em
[09:25] <learn25> when i update ubuntu i cannot update the kernel
[09:25] <learn25> here's the message:
[09:25] <bob2> "cannot"?
[09:25] <ivoks> ?
[09:25] <aiw> Kamping_Kaiser: because you are all so friendly here
[09:25] <learn25> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.10-5-386_2.6.10-34.2_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko', which is also in package ndiswrapper-modules-2.6.10-5-386
[09:25] <ivoks> heh!
[09:25] <learn25> that's the error
[09:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> aiw, where i work, its Ubuntu clients and Debian servers ;)
[09:25] <whiprush> BOB2!
[09:25] <ivoks> learn25: dpkg -i --force-overwrite
[09:25] <bob2> whiprush: aloha
[09:25] <whiprush> flame me brother.
[09:26] <bob2> learn25: remove the ndiswrapper-modules-2.6.10-5-386 package
[09:26] <nickrud> a smart question, finally
[09:26] <bob2> whiprush: I WANT MY FRIDGE
[09:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol strait into it bob2
[09:26] <whiprush> bob2: You need to bother Mr. Dub.
[09:26] <whiprush> I am on standby.
[09:26] <aiw> i have been extremely happy with debian, the woody server had an uptime of over 400 days when i upgraded it to sarge this evening
[09:26] <learn25> will it not affect my MSI wifi card if i remove ndiswrapper?
[09:26] <ivoks> aiw: advice: don't do it remotly
[09:26] <Davey> OK, anything neat you guys think I just *have* to install? :D
[09:26] <bob2> learn25: the ubuntu kernels come with the ndiswrapper module
[09:26] <bob2> Davey: tomboy!
[09:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> davey, pornview
[09:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> ;)
[09:27] <aiw> ivoks: unfortunately, that is my only choice, the server is in texas, i am in florida
[09:27] <whiprush> I wonder how many people had exactly the uptime between woody and sarge, like, to the day.
[09:27] <bob2> whiprush: hmm, ok
[09:27] <ivoks> aiw: there is little chance anything will go wrong, but still there is...
[09:27] <Madpilot> Davey: Wanda The Fish
[09:27] <Davey> bob2: hey, thats kinda neat
[09:27] <ivoks> aiw: you don't have anyone there who could assist you?
[09:27] <Davey> Madpilot: already got that :)
[09:27] <aiw> ivoks: i was astonished at how smoothe the woody-> sarge upgrade went tonight
[09:27] <whiprush> bob2: I'm all set to go, just gotta get infrastructure and artwork and all that nitnoid stuff.
[09:27] <bob2> whiprush: ahhh, suck
[09:27] <ivoks> aiw: that's not big deal
[09:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> aiw, apt- is made to do that sort of thing
[09:28] <ivoks> aiw: all packages are newer
[09:28] <bob2> whiprush: did you see ajmitch's fridges?
[09:28] <ivoks> aiw: sarge -> hoary is big chanllenge
[09:28] <whiprush> bob2: no I did not, what's up?
[09:28] <IIIEars> whiprush - serverwatch might actually have a few listed... maybe.
[09:28] <aiw> ivoks: no, there is 24/7 support at the colo, they are terrific
[09:28] <ivoks> aiw: ehere you have older packages in hoary than in sarge :)
[09:28] <bob2> ivoks: sarge -> hoary isn't going to work
[09:28] <ivoks> bob2: yes, it will
[09:28] <bob2> ah, as you said
[09:28] <aiw> ivoks: well, then perhaps i will leave that one at sarge for now
[09:28] <Davey> oh dear god Kamping_Kaiser I thought you were joking! LOL
[09:28] <ivoks> bob2: without reboot even :)
[09:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol davey
[09:29] <bob2> whiprush: some luverly 1960's style .svgs
[09:29] <ivoks> aiw: yeah... upgrade to breezy when it comes out
[09:29] <whiprush> bob2: oh man, hot.
[09:29] <Davey> Kamping_Kaiser: is there a pornview-data package? :D
[09:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[09:29] <whiprush> the 60's fridge's were the best.
[09:29] <whiprush> all round and stuff
[09:29] <nickrud> learn25, you've just been rushed by the guys in the know, folow the advice given,
[09:29] <Davey> Is there an ETA on breezy btw? :)
[09:29] <bob2> ivoks: well, you need some screwing around, since sarge has a newer libc6, etc
[09:29] <IIIEars> Is Sarge compiled with the same compiler vers?
[09:29] <Madpilot> damn, there really IS a package called pornview in Syn... :)
[09:29] <ivoks> bob2: it all goes very nice... trust me...
[09:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> davey, 5.1
[09:29] <ivoks> bob2: you just have to do pining
[09:30] <bob2> ivoks: yes, I know
[09:30] <whiprush> bob2: so dude, I got NetworkManager compiled from CVS in breezy today, it solves like 90% of the use cases on the specs.
[09:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> davey, the 10th month of 2005
[09:30] <aiw> ivoks: you need help with packaging? what needs to be done?
[09:30] <bob2> IIIEars: effectively (ie, not identical, but they're compatible)
[09:30] <Madpilot> "Slideshows allow for unattended presentation of images for hands-free viewing." <-- oh dear...
[09:30] <ivoks> aiw: come to #ubuntu-motu
[09:30] <bob2> whiprush: hah, nice
[09:30] <whiprush> bob2: so I suspended my X40, went to the bar, opened the laptop, it woke up, 10 seconds later it found the AP and did what it was supposed to do.
[09:31] <whiprush> some kind of ... linux laptop "fix networking" time machine.
[09:31] <HappyFool> ivoks: sorry to be pedantic, but i think it's 'pinning' -- pining is what you do when your internet connection is down and you can't check your e-mail ;)
[09:32] <ivoks> HappyFool: well, could be, i never learned enligsh in school :)
[09:32] <bob2> whiprush: hah, iirc the problem with it being in hoary was it's crashiness
[09:32] <bob2> whiprush: it's been stable for you?
[09:32] <whiprush> all except one case.
[09:32] <whiprush> plugging in a network cable crashes the laptop hard 1 out of 5 times.
[09:32] <bob2> ahh
[09:32] <whiprush> I'm hoping that that's my stupidity, hopefully when it hits breezy that won't happen
[09:33] <glyph> whiprush: Hmm, curious
[09:33] <whiprush> but when it does work, it ifdowns the wireless and ifups the wired one.
[09:33] <whiprush> glyph: yeah, totally odd, I wouldn't expect that to totally freeze a machine.
[09:34] <glyph> whiprush: I have been having a lot of trouble with my centrino laptop - power management does not like the ipw2200 at _all_ - will breezy (despite the disclaimer of the topic ;-)) potentially fix some of those?
[09:34] <bob2> glyph: the power manage scripts unload the driver for it, btw
[09:34] <glyph> bob2: yeah, unloading the driver is another problem
[09:34] <whiprush> glyph: sometimes you have to put ipw2200 in the list in the acpi file to restart it on wake up.
[09:34] <bob2> wow
[09:34] <whiprush> otherwise it'll sit there.
[09:34] <bob2> flak-o-matic
[09:35] <bob2> glad I wussed out and got ipw2100 ;)
[09:35] <glyph> whiprush: are you talking about the MODULES list in /etc/defaults/acpi-support ?
[09:35] <whiprush> yeah
[09:35] <glyph> whiprush: been there, done that ;)
[09:35] <whiprush> on some laptops I've had to set that, and on others not.
[09:35] <bob2> glyph: is there a bug open about that?
[09:35] <whiprush> dunno what's up with that
[09:36] <glyph> whiprush: the driver is buggy as shit
[09:36] <glyph> whiprush: that is what's up with that ;)
[09:36] <whiprush> heh
[09:36] <glyph> bob2: Possibly.  I don't know how to list the symptoms, exactly.  Sometimes, non-deterministically, an 'rmmod ipw2200' will just freeze every process touching the network, (like, zombie processes, kill -9 does nothing)
[09:37] <glyph> Solaris 10, FC3, FC4[test3] , and today's Breezy snapshot
[09:37] <ivoks> glyph: i'm sure your hard disk really loves you
[09:37] <bob2> well, if you can reproduce it with no proprietary modules loaded, please do file a bug
[09:37] <whiprush> hmm, if you're seeing weirdness, matthew garrett has put out a call for laptop testing, have you seen that email to the list?
[09:37] <glyph> ivoks: I think it would kill me if it had opposable thumbs
[09:37] <whiprush> you should file it
[09:37] <glyph> whiprush: testing hoary or breezy?
[09:37] <ivoks> ipw2200 is kind of broken in hoary
[09:37] <ivoks> it works
[09:37] <whiprush> breezy iirc.
[09:37] <glyph> ivoks: The key question is, is it _less_ broken in breezy? :)
[09:37] <ivoks> but not 100%
[09:38] <ivoks> glyph: in 2.6.12 ipw2200 works great
[09:38] <glyph> ivoks: awesome!
[09:38] <bob2> well
[09:38] <bob2> in 2.6.10 it works "great" for lots of people, too
[09:38] <glyph> ivoks: if breezy breaks my laptop I am suing you! ;-)
[09:38] <ivoks> bob2: it works, true
[09:38] <bob2> so I wouldn't neccessarily assume it will work better for you in 2.6.12
[09:38] <ivoks> bob2: but randomly, it looses any connection
[09:38] <whiprush> glyph: don't just go upgrading to breezy just for that. It's pretty broken for lots of people.
[09:39] <glyph> whiprush: I don't read the list (got plenty of email as it is) but if there is a call for breezy testing I will give it a shot
[09:39] <ivoks> rmmod && modprobe fixes problem
[09:39] <bob2> ivoks: I've not heard that from the 2 or 3 people I know who use it in hoary
[09:39] <whiprush> unless you know how to fix stuff, then by all means, go test.
[09:39] <ivoks> bob2: do they have their laptop running 24/7? :)
[09:39] <bob2> yes
[09:39] <ivoks> hm, strange...
[09:39] <glyph> whiprush: "fix stuff" is a pretty broad category, but I'm a 5+ years debian user, and a python programmer, I can usually figure stuff out if it's figure-outable (i.e. kernel bugs are off limits to me)
[09:40] <bob2> I had similar problems with ipw2100 in 2.6.8, fwiw
[09:40] <bob2> learn25: did that fix your problem for you?
[09:40] <whiprush> glyph: if you know dpkg well enough to do the occasional overwrite, then breezy should be fine for you. Unless X is broken again.
[09:40] <glyph> whiprush: doesn't sound any worse than sid :)
[09:40] <whiprush> heh
[09:40] <glyph> whiprush: and I ran _that_ for about 3 years
[09:41] <bob2> breezy has been far worse than sid
[09:41] <Amaranth> for some things in breezy you should know how to build packages and how to do simple code fixes
[09:41] <nickrud> lol, I'm a goldarn user, and sid was so much easier that breezy
[09:42] <glyph> yow
[09:42] <whiprush> It's been my experience that the ubuntu devel branch has been broken as all hell until a week or 2 after upstream version freeze. YMMV.
[09:42] <ivoks> breey isn't usable, at the moment
[09:42] <ivoks> X are broken
[09:42] <ivoks> lots of c++ stuff...
[09:42] <ivoks> it isn't a pleasend ride :)
[09:42] <ChinaCatJones> HappyFool- You won't believe this, but enabling 32bit on the disk in the bios seemed to fix this, don't ask me how, it shouldn't, but it did
[09:43] <nickrud> well I don't use much c++ stuff, and mkfontdir was easy, but, I still am queasy
[09:43] <ivoks> adivce: don't
[09:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> bob2, is there an easy way to remove locales?
[09:44] <Fr0Gs> hey all
[09:44] <Fr0Gs> :)
[09:44] <ivoks> i know for a fact that there are packages that are broken
[09:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi :)
[09:44] <Fr0Gs> i need some help with getting ntfs to work on ubuntu
[09:44] <nickrud> well, I'm here, and I boot it for long print jobs for hplip at the moment, but, hoary is still my day today
[09:44] <glyph> wow, this does look like a kind of unpleasant ride.  my breezy vmware test box is reporting broken md5 sums when I try to dist-upgrade?
[09:45] <whiprush> glyph: us.archive.ubuntu.com has been doing that for me for 2 days now
[09:45] <whiprush> with the bad md5sums.
[09:45] <HappyFool> ChinaCatJones: hmm
[09:45] <ivoks> don't use us :)
[09:45] <Fr0Gs> how can i get my ntfs drive working
[09:45] <Fr0Gs> someone message me
[09:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> fr0gs
[09:45] <glyph> whiprush: other hosts more forgiving?
[09:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> theres info on ubuntuguide
[09:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> and we can tell you here :)
[09:45] <whiprush> glyph: not sure, I'm just riding it out.
[09:45] <Fr0Gs> yeh but i dont understand
[09:45] <ivoks> hr works fine :)
[09:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok  fr0gs
[09:45] <ukato> can i ask some questions about really basic networking stuff
[09:45] <HappyFool> ChinaCatJones: at least it's working now
[09:46] <whiprush> ukato: just ask
[09:46] <holycow> has anyone found a gtk interface for wireless cards thats decent? things like kismet are fine but a gtk gui would be nicer
[09:46] <ukato> ok
[09:46] <ukato> so
[09:46] <ukato> how do i access my network
[09:46] <ukato> i'd be using a command prompt...
[09:46] <bob2> Kamping_Kaiser: localepurge, if you know exactly what ou're doing
[09:46] <bob2> and how to undo it
[09:46] <whiprush> holycow: try netapplet (it's in universe), but your mileage may vary.
[09:46] <bob2> glyph: archive.ubuntu.com is fine
[09:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm thanks bob2
[09:46] <som1> do i need to reinstall the nvidia driver to use 686 stuff? it cant start
[09:46] <ChinaCatJones> HappyFool: you what else I did, now that I am thinking about it is that there was a cold boot this time, i've just been warm booting during this excitement
[09:46] <bob2> us.archive is screwed, someone should take it out of the rotation entirely
[09:47] <bob2> som1: it's way way way way easier to use the ubuntu packages of it
[09:47] <som1> i know, im using the ubuntu package
[09:47] <som1> but when starting at 686 it cant start the nvidia driver
[09:47] <holycow> interesting
[09:47] <holycow> thx whiprush
[09:47] <som1> so x doesnt either
[09:47] <HappyFool> ChinaCatJones: well, whatever it is, i think it is your bios or mainboard, rather than ubuntu or windows
[09:47] <bob2> som1: install the linux-686 package
[09:48] <som1> i did
[09:48] <som1> X can't start because of the nvidia driver
[09:49] <whiprush> holycow: it's kind of buggy, but it works well for some configurations.
[09:50] <som1> ?
[09:51] <som1> well
[09:51] <br33zy> hi, i'm having apt-get package problems, in particular libsndfile and libimlib, they fail to install because of an md5sum mismatch. this seems to happen on a friends computer as well, so is this a famous problem with a workaround?
[09:51] <som1> am i supposed to remove the nvidia driver?
[09:51] <bob2> som1: "because of the nvidia driver"?
[09:51] <pepsi> hi br33zy
[09:51] <pepsi> im running you
[09:51] <br33zy> pepperpot, hello
[09:51] <som1> yes, it can't start
[09:51] <Davey> heh
[09:51] <br33zy> pepperpot, damn you
[09:51] <br33zy> pepsi, hi
[09:52] <br33zy> pepsi, hah
[09:52] <pepsi> br33zy, take the 'us.' out of your repositories
[09:52] <br33zy> pepsi, its not my fault they stole breezy from me
[09:52] <pepsi> so its just http://archive.ubuntu.com
[09:52] <br33zy> pepsi, are you sure?
[09:52] <pepsi> yeah
[09:52] <br33zy> ok
[09:52] <br33zy> will that pick a mirror for me automatically or somthing?
[09:52] <IIIEars> Hi - pepsi. - drinking Coca-cola so you won't be bothered.
[09:52] <br33zy> just curious on the side note
[09:52] <batma8> so guys, how to i get runescape to work, i dloaded java, and it still says i need more plugins
[09:53] <som1> batma8, doesn't it use flash?
[09:53] <br33zy> batma8, good, you shouldn't be wasting your time wiht runescape anyway
[09:53] <pepsi> br33zy, its their main server or something, i dunno.. its just different
[09:53] <ukato> has anyone here used a wireless-g usb adapter by hawking technology?
[09:53] <br33zy> som1, no
[09:53] <br33zy> pepsi, ya k
[09:54] <batma8> its for my little brother
[09:54] <som1> do i have to remove the nvidia driver and reinstall it for 686?
[09:54] <som1> for/from
[09:54] <br33zy> pepsi, nice, its all good thanks
[09:55] <br33zy> pepsi, lol, i still need to ship out your guy's boards
[09:56] <ukato> if i have two linux boxes on the same network, do i have to do anything for them to talk to eachother?
[09:56] <som1> first connect them
[09:56] <br33zy> ukato, talk to each other through what?
[09:56] <ukato> the network?
[09:57] <ukato> sorry, i'm really new to everything
[09:57] <br33zy> you have to be more specific
[09:57] <ukato> okay
[09:57] <br33zy> what exactly is it you want to do?
[09:57] <thoreauputic> ukato: what kind of "talk" ? ssh ? samba? nfs?
[09:57] <som1> see eachother :)
[09:57] <ukato> yeah, pretty much soml
[09:57] <ukato> transfering files
[09:58] <ukato> maybe ssh
[09:58] <hornsby> ukato,  then samba maybe :)
[09:58] <IIIEars> Hm - Was curious about a new command and typed  "halt" - the system is using a lot more RAM this session.
[09:58] <br33zy> or ftp or nfs
[09:58] <ukato> for FTP, does the computer that's gonna be downloaded from need to be running a server
[09:58] <br33zy> ukato, like hornsby mentioned, i'd go with samba (windows boxes can see hte linux boxes as well)
[09:58] <br33zy> ukato, yeah, but same goes for samba
[09:58] <ukato> oh, so samba isn't just for windows to linux
[09:59] <br33zy> no
[09:59] <hornsby> ukato,  nop
[09:59] <br33zy> not necessarily
[09:59] <ukato> well, at least i'm learning something
[09:59] <br33zy> but samba can be a bitch to setup
[09:59] <br33zy> you either get it right the first time
[09:59] <ukato> oh really...
[09:59] <br33zy> or you spend 3 hours on it
[09:59] <akaiin> I have 2 LAN cards in my newly Ubuntu installed system. the eth0 is connected from ADSL Router. and eth1 is connected to my LAN network. I can ping the workstation in my LAN but the LAN  cant connect to the Internet
[09:59] <IIIEars> halt - does it change settings?
[09:59] <br33zy> well, i just have had personally bad luck
[09:59] <akaiin> please... help
[09:59] <br33zy> personal*
[09:59] <ukato> does samba come with ubuntu
[09:59] <ukato> or do i need to install it
[09:59] <hornsby> ssh is good, then go on konqueror and type fish://ip_of_the_machine !
[10:00] <hornsby> if you have konqueror :)
[10:00] <br33zy> ukato, i think it comes with
[10:00] <br33zy> ukato, the server might not
[10:00] <ukato> hornsby, could i use ssh through a command prompt...?
[10:00] <hornsby> ukato,  sure but for newbie is better gui, right ?
[10:00] <thoreauputic> no, you have to apt-get install samba (the server)
[10:00] <hornsby> :)
[10:00] <br33zy> hornsby, ssh is
[10:00] <thoreauputic> ukato: you could use ssh/scp and friends, yeah
[10:01] <br33zy> how could you do it any other way?
[10:01] <hornsby> br33zy,  ssh is what ?
[10:01] <br33zy> hornsby, erm, wrong person
[10:01] <ukato> hornsby, i could probably figure it out. i'm finding that the terminal is faster
[10:01] <ukato> and more fun
[10:01] <hornsby> ok :)
[10:01] <ukato> :P
[10:01] <br33zy> hornsby, i was going to say it was only for cli
[10:01] <hornsby> ukato, true
[10:01] <ukato> so
[10:01] <thoreauputic> ukato: install openssh-server
[10:01] <ukato> if i were going to connect to the other computer with ssh
[10:02] <hornsby> br33zy, true, but can be very friendly
[10:02] <thoreauputic> ukato: then you can use ssh and scp
[10:02] <ukato> thoreauputic, i only need one computer to be a server, right?
[10:02] <ukato> for them to talk back and forth
[10:02] <thoreauputic> ukato: depends how you want to operate it
[10:02] <hornsby> ukato, if you want to connect one way
[10:03] <hornsby> or ..
[10:03] <thoreauputic> ukato: afaik you need servers on each to talk both ways
[10:03] <hornsby> ukato, at least it's easier that way
[11:10] (ukato/#ubuntu) if not that's cool
[11:12] <concept10> Okay, im new to ubuntu, but not new to linux.  I like to drag and drop files in nautilus. of course it says I dont have permissions..what is the fastest way around this.  change the run command?
[11:12] <thoreauputic> concept10: "gksudo nautilus"
[11:13] <Seveas> Vurdak, please turn that off in here
[11:13] <Vurdak> ok sorry Seveas
[11:13] <concept10> thoreauputic, where should I add that command to make it system wide?
[11:13] <Vurdak> ok stop
[11:13] <Vurdak> :D
[11:14] <thoreauputic> concept10: system wide I don't know
[11:14] <bob2> concept10: you're not new to linux?
[11:14] <bob2> concept10: your question is "how do I make every file and directory writable by every user"
[11:14] <whiprush> concept10: you shouldn't have to run that command regularly.
[11:14] <concept10> not new, this sudo is wrecking my nerves
[11:14] <Seveas> concept10, sounds like you want the Linspire security mechanism
[11:15] <Seveas> running all as root...
[11:15] <concept10> Nope
[11:15] <bob2> concept10: so, normally you'd login to X as root?
[11:15] <SigNagE> hey, can someone help me install some drivers for my wireless card [im a total linux newbie] 
[11:15] <concept10> I usually run as root, havent had any trouble
[11:15] <whiprush> concept10: bad idea.
[11:15] <SigNagE> i have a guide but i dont know a lot of the talk, "terminal/shell/console window" etc
[11:15] <bob2> right
[11:15] <ukato> ficusplanet, okay, thanks for all the help. i guess i'll try to install that driver
[11:15] <Seveas> concept10, the quickest hack is making nautilus setuid root, but it's samn ugly and has more security issues than wolud fit in a 100-pagfe paper :)
[11:16] <EL> hello
[11:16] <bob2> concept10: so, not being able to write to random dirs has nothing to do with sudo, you'd have thos problem on any distribution
[11:16] <SigNagE> hi
[11:16] <Seveas> ok, me needs coffe
[11:16] <bob2> or Unix OS, for that matter
[11:16] <concept10> no one on here can state a specific example where running root has caused them trouble
[11:16] <Seveas> my spelling s*s atm
[11:16] <whiprush> concept10: the best way is to run as a normal user, and use sudo when you need it.
[11:16] <thoreauputic> concept10: that's not only silly, it's potentially bad for other net users
[11:16] <EL> can someone help me, with getting my speakers to work and play music?
[11:17] <concept10> whiprush, I know that is the best way. But I dont want to type in a passwd everytime I want to drag some files
[11:17] <bob2> concept10: once I was in /usr/share/, and ran "rm /tmp/ *" to clean out /tmp
[11:17] <bob2> concept10: if I'd been root, I'd have been screwed
[11:17] <bob2> concept10: what are you doing that involves modifying root's files so often?
[11:18] <bob2> concept10: I've never had reason in my 5 years on linux to modify a root file with a file manager
[11:18] <whiprush> concept10: there's nothing you should be doing to your files that require accessing anything outside of your home, that's what the package manager is for.
[11:18] <concept10> bob2, there are other ways to clean your /tmp dir
[11:19] <bob2> concept10: yes, my point was that I made a typo.  if I'd been root, I'd been screwed.
[11:19] <thoreauputic> concept10: you are arguing against 30 years of accumulated *nix wisdom...
[11:19] <Seveas> concept10, that's not the point...
[11:19] <bob2> concept10: what are you doing that involves modifying root's files so much?
[11:19] <whiprush> concept10: you can do 99% of what you need to do as a user, you just need to start thinking that way.
[11:19] <Seveas> concept10, there is a good reason unix/linux like systems have this permission setup, you should not break it.
[11:19] <concept10> I just like to moves files around in file manager no specific purpose... for example dragging this xmms theme into the proper directory after I downloaded it
[11:20] <Seveas> concept10, xmms themes go into ~/.xmms/Themes
[11:20] <bob2> concept10: the "proper directory" is ~/.xmms/Skins/, which is in your home dir
[11:20] <thoreauputic> concept10: that doesn't require root
[11:20] <bob2> which is writable by you
[11:20] <Seveas> you already have permissions for that.
[11:20] <concept10> thoreauputic, some of that 30 years of *nix doesnt really apply to a single user box
[11:21] <Seveas> :)
[11:21] <whiprush> concept10: you just need to think different(tm).
[11:21] <Seveas> thoreauputic, some people don't like good advice ;)
[11:21] <bob2> concept10: out of interest, when have you ever encoutered this?
[11:22] <concept10> I understand the philosophies, believe me I do. My basic point is that I dont want to sudo when I use nautilus
[11:23] <whiprush> concept10: what we're trying to say is that you don't need to.
[11:23] <bob2> so you've said
[11:23] <bob2> I'm very curious about why, tho
[11:23] <bob2> I can't think of any examples of when that would be a problem
[11:23] <IIIEars> New user question #204 - What happened to my system after trying the halt command? - more RAM than ever before is used now. :?
[11:24] <stjepan> do you know any good IDEs for C++?
[11:24] <goldfish> nano
[11:24] <goldfish> :)
[11:24] <bob2> stjepan: some people like anjuta
[11:24] <bob2> stjepan: most linux programmers seem to end up using vim or emacs, tho
[11:24] <stjepan> bob2, anything else?
[11:24] <bob2> IIIEars: it should power down the machine
[11:24] <bob2> stjepan: there's kdevelop, too
[11:24] <Seveas> and Eclipse
[11:24] <thoreauputic> IIIEars: I don't see a connection - i thought "halt" did the same thing more or less as "shutdown -h now" ?
[11:25] <bob2> oh yeah, and monodevelop
[11:25] <Jormundgand> I prefer "shutdown -h now". It feels more authoritative.
[11:25] <stjepan> but it is for KDE
[11:25] <stjepan> Eclipse is slow
[11:25] <ukato> i'm having trouble building something from source, can anyone help?
[11:25] <stjepan> monodevelop is not C++ IDE
[11:25] <bob2> ukato: you need to be more specific
[11:26] <bob2> ukato: tell us what you're building, how far into the instructions you are, and be ready to paste the error to #flood
[11:26] <IIIEars> bob2 - Thanks. - question #204 potential scewups using a new OS 1 googleplex X 2 squared. - grin
[11:26] <bob2> IIIEars: heh
[11:26] <ukato> bob2, okay
[11:26] <ukato> bob2 i'm trying to build the source for this driver.
[11:26] <bob2> ukato: which driver?
[11:26] <stjepan> which IDE do you use for C++ development?
[11:27] <bob2> emacs
[11:27] <ukato> for a USB network device
[11:27] <ukato> let me grab the link
[11:27] <concept10> theres small subtle changes from gnome 2.8 to 2.10 thats kinda wierd.  For example you cant right click and access the properties of a menu item (applications, places, system)
[11:27] <Seveas> concept10, that's due to the change to the freedesktop system
[11:27] <bob2> concept10: yes, that's because there's an entirely new cross-platform menu system
[11:28] <ukato> http://sourceforge.net/projects/zd1211/ is the driver i'm trying to build
[11:28] <concept10> I thought gnome was free before?
[11:28] <Seveas> concept10, argh...
[11:28] <concept10> just kidding
[11:28] <concept10> okay, thanks for the info
[11:29] <whiprush> concept10: editing the menu will be fixed in 2.12
[11:29] <concept10> its time for me to get in there and start hacking on nautilus and the desktop
[11:30] <Amaranth> concept10: http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ <--gnome 2.10 menu editor
[11:30] <Jormundgand> Smeg is a damn good menu editor.
[11:30] <Amaranth> it's in hoary backports and in breezy universe (0.7.5 is just a bugfix for people that used older versions)
[11:30] <Amaranth> so the 0.7.4 in both of those is good
[11:30] <pepsi> hi
[11:31] <Amaranth> Jormundgand: thank you
[11:31] <ukato> okay so
[11:31] <concept10> yeah, i know about it.  Thanks.  I just dont want to load a app to change a launcher in the menu everytime.  Basically some stuff I like doing on the fly
[11:31] <aLeSD> hi, someone is able to active the video out of a nvidia card?
[11:32] <ukato> bob2, i cd into the directory that i unzipped the tarball to, then i run the "make" command
[11:32] <ukato> but it runs into an error
[11:32] <ukato> or a bunch of errors
[11:32] <concept10> See the way I look at it, the desktop environment shouldnt take your focus away from your present task.
[11:32] <goldfish> ukato: did you run ./configure first?
[11:32] <goldfish> well
[11:32] <ukato> goldfish, i tried, but it didn't work
[11:33] <Amaranth> concept10: If I could integrate with the menus themselves I would, sorry.
[11:33] <goldfish> ukato: what you trying to build?
[11:33] <ukato> goldfish
[11:33] <concept10> Amaranth, I didnt mean anything bad.  Thats a great app!
[11:33] <ukato> http://sourceforge.net/projects/zd1211
[11:33] <PtIsEnBoN> FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK BUSH FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK USA FUCK USA FUCK USA FUCK USA FUCK USA FUCK USA FUCK USA FUCK USA FUCK USA FUCK USA FUCK USA FUCK USA FUCK USA FUCK USA FUCK USA FUCK USA FUCK USA FUCK USA FUCK USA FUCK USA FUCK USA FUCK USA FUCK USA FUCK USA FUCK USA FUCK USA FUCK USA FUCK USA FUCK USA FUCK USA FUCK USA FUCK USA
[11:33] <goldfish> moron.
[11:33] <Amaranth> *sigh*
[11:34] <goldfish> he/she/it just flooded #gentoo aswell
[11:34] <pinko> that... really hurt
[11:34] <Amaranth> wow, xchat actually came up with a good ban string
[11:34] <Jormundgand> Trollmania today, huh.
[11:34] <concept10> I hope he doesnt have a bomb attached to himself
[11:34] <Amaranth> seems like it
[11:34] <Teherkan> my laptop gets very hot after usiing it for 1,30 hours! what can I do to prevent it?
[11:34] <Amaranth> and i thought this job was going to be easy :)
[11:34] <ukato> goldfish, that's what you meant , right
[11:35] <Amaranth> Teherkan: stop using it for awhile? :)
[11:35] <Jormundgand> (Heads up: 1,30 hours is European for 1.5 hours.)
[11:35] <goldfish> ukato: yep, one sec.
[11:35] <concept10> Amaranth, you made that app?
[11:35] <ukato> ok
[11:35] <Teherkan> Amaranth: there is no way to get it cold?? a kernel patch or something??
[11:36] <ukato> thanks, by the way
[11:36] <Amaranth> concept10: yeah
[11:36] <Jormundgand> Teherkan: software can't make things colder. If the laptop is hot, get cooling or turn it off.
[11:36] <concept10> Amaranth,  maybe you can help port some python based tools from Fedora
[11:36] <hondje> apt-get cold
[11:36] <thoreauputic> Jormundgand: you mean it isn't magic?
[11:37] <thoreauputic> :)
[11:37] <Amaranth> concept10: do they access the internet?
[11:37] <Teherkan> Jormundgand: but while i was using winXP ( the laptop came with it) it could be runing for a night and not be so hot
[11:37] <Jormundgand> thoreauputic: Sorry. By the way, there's no such thing as the toth fairy.
[11:37] <Jormundgand> tooth*
[11:37] <goldfish> ukato: what kernel u running?
[11:37] <Amaranth> concept10: i'll be offline for a week, if they don't access the internet i could grab the source and work on them over the week
[11:37] <Jormundgand> Teherkan: Magic.
[11:37] <ukato> how do i check
[11:37] <ukato> :-P
[11:37] <kiwnix> Teherkan, configure acpi
[11:37] <thoreauputic> Jormundgand: oh..... but Santa Claus exists!
[11:38] <goldfish> ukato: 'uname -r'
[11:38] <Teherkan> kiwnix: now for a howto??
[11:38] <Jormundgand> thoreauputic: no :(
[11:38] <Teherkan> kiwnix: know?
[11:38] <Madeye> guys I have local webserver, but none is able to access it, they are getting this
[11:38] <Madeye>      Access Denied (policy_denied)
[11:38] <Madeye>      Your system policy has denied access to the requested URL.
[11:38] <Madeye>      For assistance, contact your network support team.
[11:38] <Jormundgand> Jormundgand: There's a guy in #ubuntu wants to know if he can cool his laptop down with a kernel patch.
[11:38] <Jormundgand> Epicenter: there's usually a setting to send interrupts when idle
[11:38] <Jormundgand> Epicenter: that should trigger the HALT function on the CPU and decrease power draw when not working on anything
[11:38] <Jormundgand> Epicenter: thereby cooling it
[11:38] <Jormundgand> Epicenter: bu the real long term solution is, stop buying laptops with desktop processors
[11:38] <concept10> Amaranth, I know ubuntu has the Boot up manager, but I was thinking system-config-services from Fedora  would be great for ubuntu
[11:38] <Madeye> any idea?
[11:38] <thoreauputic> Jormundgand: geee
[11:38] <kiwnix> mmm, no, but on the forums... there should be some
[11:38] <goldfish> ukato: hmmm, have you read the README file ? :)
[11:39] <Teherkan> oh thanks i should search
[11:39] <ukato> goldfish, 2.6.10
[11:39] <ukato> goldfish, can you hold on, i'm gonna switch computers
[11:39] <concept10> Amaranth, it doesnt access the net
[11:39] <Amaranth> concept10: i have a feeling they do redhatism things, but if you provide a link to the source i'll see what i can do
[11:39] <whiprush> Jormundgand: is your laptop not throttling the CPU as it should?
[11:39] <Viktor> irc.gnome.org
[11:40] <goldfish> ukato: sure no worries
[11:40] <ursasmar> I am having a problem with an install of 5.04 over what used to be a Mandrake 10.1 install.  I keep getting this error when logging in
[11:40] <goldfish> well
[11:40] <ursasmar> No database available to save your configuration: Unable to store a value at key '/apps/panel/general/profiles_migrated', as the configuration server has no writable databases.
[11:40] <goldfish> I'm going to the airport in 20 minutes so :)
[11:40] <synd-> Amaranth, whats your opinion on apple/intel. thumbs up or down?
[11:40] <ursasmar> The actual error message is much longer, but that seems to be the omport first part
[11:40] <whiprush> ursasmar: ensure your new ubuntu user account has access to your old home directory.
[11:40] <Amaranth> synd-: up
[11:40] <soulfly_> if I want to do a purge but has allready done a remove with dpkg. What is the step to remove the configuration files?
[11:41] <concept10> Amaranth,  its just starts, stop and restart services.  I dont know the main difference between RH and debian based distros when it comes to services
[11:41] <concept10> Amaranth, let me find the source
[11:41] <ursasmar> whiprush: My first problem was that it didn't.  So I did a real quick chown -R username to my old home directory
[11:41] <ursasmar> whiprush: That allowed me to at least log in
[11:41] <whiprush> ok
[11:41] <synd-> goldfish, theyre outstanding machines : )
[11:41] <whiprush> and you still got that error?
[11:41] <goldfish> synd-: and so cute :)
[11:42] <synd-> goldfish, hear hear
[11:42] <ursasmar> whiprush: Yeah.  Tried a killall gnome-panel, since the panel was the thing causing he error, and that throws the same error
[11:42] <Amaranth> the thought of a dual-core pentium M based powerbook that gets 5 hours of battery life makes me drool
[11:42] <goldfish> i saw a 10.6" sony vaoi which is also really cool looking, but it's no powerbook.
[11:42] <goldfish> *vaio
[11:42] <synd-> Amaranth, i know!
[11:42] <whiprush> have you tried going in with gconf-editor and setting the key by hand?
[11:42] <synd-> Amaranth, did you read about how AMD is planning QUAD-core procs?
[11:43] <ursasmar> whiprush: I have not.  Is there a specific key I should set?
[11:43] <Amaranth> synd-: bleh, AMD cpus use too much power
[11:43] <whiprush> I was thinking trying the one the error mentions
[11:43] <whiprush> you can also try moving ~/.gconf out the way and log in then
[11:44] <concept10> Amaranth, http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-4-Manual/sysadmin-guide/s1-services-serviceconf.html
[11:44] <goldfish> Amaranth: ooh, they have that planned for the powerbook, sweet.
[11:44] <hondje> soulfly_: I would do something like sudo dpkg -P `deborphan -a --find-config | awk '{print $2}'`
[11:44] <ursasmar> whiprush: In gconf-editor it says the key is not writeable
[11:44] <concept10> Amaranth, thats just a shot of what im talking about
[11:44] <userx1> do u know some  Yahoo messenger client for Ubuntu that supports Video CAM ?
[11:44] <hondje> soulfly_: I'd give that all a test run before doing it though
[11:44] <Amaranth> concept10: cool
[11:44] <whiprush> ursasmar: odd. I would try moving .gconf out of the way, to like .gconf-backup
[11:45] <whiprush> then try logging in
[11:45] <synd-> Amaranth, agreed. but I believe apple should use AMD procs in the desktops (powermac specifically) and intel "m" in portables/mac mini
[11:45] <whiprush> your user data is in .gnome2, so that should transfer over with no problem
[11:45] <ursasmar> whiprush: Thats odd,I don't have a .gconf, just a .gconfd
[11:46] <Amaranth> synd-: why AMD in the desktops when a dual core pentium m with 64-bit extensions will be out by the time they launch that?
[11:46] <whiprush> odd.
[11:46] <whiprush> try moving that
[11:46] <Bazzi> synd AMD *and* intel for apple?
[11:46] <synd-> Amaranth, price
[11:46] <concept10> Amaranth, http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/3/SRPMS/system-config-services-0.8.21-0.fc3.1.src.rpm
[11:46] <Amaranth> synd-: ha
[11:46] <whiprush> ursasmar: and you're sure you've chowend everything to your new user account?
[11:46] <Amaranth> concept10: that's an RPM, i need an srpm or a tar.gz
[11:47] <synd-> Amaranth, : )
[11:47] <synd-> Bazzi, yes
[11:47] <concept10> Amaranth, thats a srpm
[11:47] <Seveas> Amaranth, .src.rpm
[11:47] <Amaranth> oh, they changed it
[11:47] <ursasmar> whiprush: I did a chown -R ursasmar /home/ursasmar
[11:47] <Bazzi> synd- that would increase the price though :p
[11:47] <whiprush> ursasmar: I'd go into the directory and do an ls and make sure it is owned by your user account.
[11:47] <whiprush> just to be sure.
[11:47] <synd-> Bazzi, not so sure..
[11:47] <userx1> why there's no CVS command in Ubuntu ?
[11:47] <Bazzi> well both of them ouldnt make good prices
[11:48] <Amaranth> userx1: install the cvs package
[11:48] <concept10> http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/3/SRPMS/
[11:48] <Bazzi> I think intel made some good offer to apple..
[11:48] <kamme> hiya, I just upgraded my kernel and now my atyfb doesn't work anymore... when I boot my screen just goes black until X kicks in
[11:48] <userx1> it can be also found at Synaptic ?
[11:48] <synd-> i dont think it really is about the offer intel made to apple..
[11:48] <bob2> userx1: of course
[11:48] <userx1> okies
[11:48] <userx1> :)
[11:48] <synd-> its about intel's hatred for microsoft
[11:48] <synd-> that apple can feed off of
[11:48] <ursasmar> whiprush: Just went through a bunch of random directories in my home and they are all owned by me
[11:48] <synd-> the ultimate goal i believe is to dethrone microsoft
[11:49] <ursasmar> whiprush: where does the gconf database file live?
[11:49] <whiprush> it should be in .gconf
[11:49] <concept10> Amaranth, see I have been using Fedora for a while and I looked at one of the goals for Breezy is graphical config tools.  Most of those could be adapted from Fedora
[11:49] <userx1> what I will do if I forgot the root password of my Newly Installed Ubuntu ?
[11:49] <whiprush> the systemwide gconf is in /etc/gconf
[11:49] <whiprush> but that shouldn't matter
[11:49] <co_cakep> hi
[11:49] <bob2> userx1: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[11:49] <userx1> I think, It doesnt ask me for a root password during installation
[11:50] <userx1> only user password
[11:50] <bob2> userx1: the installer did explain that ubuntu doesn't have a root password
[11:50] <Jormundgand> whiprush: I don't have a laptop, nor do I want one. It was someone else who had an overheating laptop.
[11:50] <whiprush> ursasmar: I've done this a hundred times (swap out a distro from my /home) and I've never seen this happen. Sounds like something weird is up.
[11:50] <Amaranth> concept10: any others?
[11:50] <pepsi> wooooo.. i was finally able to remove mozilla-firefox.. i rm -rf'd /var/lib/mozilla-firefox
[11:50] <Jormundgand> Ugh. Do people pay that little attention to the installation procedure?
[11:50] <ursasmar> whiprush: I think I may jus back up my important files to another computer, wipe the drive, and reinstall
[11:51] <bob2> pepsi: please do file a bug
[11:51] <ursasmar> whiprush: I can live without my settings all being correct
[11:51] <pepsi> bob2, ok
[11:51] <whiprush> Jormundgand: it sounds as though cpu throttling isn't working on his laptop, have him add the cpu thing to his panel and see if it scales the Mhz as he uses it.
[11:51] <thoreauputic> bob2: which goes to prove that the Ubuntu installer is actually easy to use, since even illiterates can succeed in installing it </badjoke>
[11:51] <bob2> thoreauputic: haha
[11:51] <whiprush> ursasmar: moving .gconf* out of the way should do that
[11:51] <pepsi> yay, now breezy is fully installed with 0 packages held back
[11:51] <whiprush> dunno why you're still getting that error
[11:51] <synd-> it peeves me how users complain about the ubuntu installer
[11:52] <ursasmar> whiprush: Directories moved, logging out now
[11:52] <concept10> Amaranth, maybe system-config-users
[11:53] <Amaranth> concept10: nah, ubuntu and gnome have their own plans for all that
[11:53] <concept10> Amaranth, I dont know if that one is written in python.  But I saw conversation where someone wanted a passwd change dialog
[11:53] <ursasmar> whiprush: Same error
[11:53] <concept10> Amaranth, okay
[11:54] <whiprush> ursasmar: ok, try moving .gnome2 out of the way then
[11:54] <userx1> I cant also access the Root terminal now :(
[11:54] <whiprush> then logout and back it.
[11:54] <whiprush> er, and back in.
[11:54] <userx1> I dont whats the password, even I input my User password it still failed
[11:54] <userx1> *know
[11:54] <concept10> Amaranth, what IDE did you use to write smeg?
[11:54] <Amaranth> concept10: I used glade for the UI
[11:55] <bob2> userx1: input it *where*?
[11:55] <Amaranth> all the code was done in regular old gedit
[11:55] <userx1> the password box
[11:55] <thoreauputic> userx1: did you do an expert/server/custom install ?
[11:55] <soulfly_> hondje:  thank you. I'll try that
[11:55] <bob2> userx1: what password box?
[11:55] <ursasmar> whiprush: Still the same
[11:55] <whiprush> ursasmar: hmmm.
[11:55] <userx1> bob2, when they ask me for password when I try to enter in Synaptic ang Root Terminal
[11:55] <whiprush> your problem is beyond by skill. I don't know how to help you from here.
[11:56] <concept10> Amaranth, do you think the system-config-services will be worth the effort?  Its a medium goal for ubuntu.
[11:56] <userx1> thoreauputic, During install I just Enter it for defaults
[11:56] <bob2> userx1: that is really asking for your user password
[11:56] <userx1> I enter my user password but still failed
[11:56] <Amaranth> concept10: i'll be extremely bored, it'll probably get some ubuntu love
[11:56] <ursasmar> whiprush: Its ok, I have a means of backing up files.  I will just wipe and a do a fresh install.  Thanks for the help
[11:56] <userx1> the account Im using is 2nd user account
[11:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[11:57] <bob2> userx1: so, that user doesn't have sudo access
[11:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> userx1, thats it
[11:57] <\sh> userx1: so u don't a have sudo rights
[11:57] <whiprush> ursasmar: sorry I wasn't able to help further. :-/
[11:57] <bob2> userx1: add them to the "admin" group
[11:57] <thoreauputic> userx1: why didn't you mention this?
[11:57] <mervin> wow
[11:57] <bob2> userx1: (it'd be good to mention that in your initial question, for future reference)
[11:57] <userx1> but when I used the 1rst user account it can always enter the Synaptic
[11:57] <bob2> userx1: yes, indeed, that user is in the admin group
[11:57] <bob2> userx1: if you add the second one, it will be able to as well
[11:58] <claint> where do i find the gpg keys for apt?
[11:58] <userx1> how do I move the second account to Admin group ?
[11:58] <concept10> I want to work on the sound theme but I don't know what flavor of sond they want
[11:58] <userx1> whats the command? mv ?
[11:58] <bob2> userx1: no
[11:58] <userx1> sorry for my questions, it my first time to use Linux
[11:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> I'm a bit confused - is sudoers being asigned to the %admin group a hoary thing? or a Kubuntu thing?
[11:58] <ukato> i'm having trouble understanding the readme of a driver i'm trying to build from source, can anyone help? the source and readme are at http://sourceforge.net/projects/zd1211/ if anyone is willing to help
[11:58] <bob2> userx1: "sudo adduser username admin", in a terminal, while logged in as the first user
[11:58] <bob2> Kamping_Kaiser: hoary
[11:59] <\sh> userx1: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[11:59] <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: Hoary
[11:59] <userx1> ok
[11:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> thanks, that explains why my sudoers is different ;)
[11:59] <userx1> thanks to all for your quick help
[11:59] <userx1> support
[11:59] <bob2> claint: gpg --recv-keys <keyidaptiscomplainingabout>  ; gpg --export <keyidaptiscomplainingabout> | sudo apt-key add -
[11:59] <claint> bob2 : thanx mate.
[12:00] <bob2> synd-: it sounded more like you wanted applications to support it
[12:00] <hondje> good ol' dhcp :)
[12:00] <gmc> I know this has probably been hashed over a few times, but is there any word on when the repository servers will be sorted out yet?
[12:00] <Madpilot> is there a way to completely prevent Ubuntu's screensaver from coming on?
[12:00] <synd-> bob2, yeah..
[12:01] <bob2> Madpilot: kill xscreensaver
[12:01] <bob2> Madpilot: you can alos just massively ramp up the delay
[12:01] <hondje> Madpilot: system -> preferences -> screensaver?
[12:01] <bob2> gmc: they're fine, us.archive is the only one which seems to have problems
[12:01] <hondje> oh hrm, no 'off' button
[12:01] <Madpilot> hondje: no way to turn it right off, that I can see in the GUI. will use bob2's method.
[12:01] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: to just get a blank screen you can use xscreensaver-command -throttle
[12:02] <gmc> bob: Ok, is there any word on that server then?
[12:02] <synd-> i dont understand screensavers..
[12:02] <bob2> gmc: no
[12:02] <Madpilot> bob2: is "Kill Daemon" (in the File menu) the same as your command line?
[12:02] <ablyss> whynot synd-?
[12:03] <bob2> Madpilot: I'd think so
[12:03] <gmc> bob: 'k, thanks.. guess I'll try some others then.
[12:03] <synd-> they arent needed on LCDs and CRTs cosume a lot of power while on.. so why not just turn off after a certain amt of idleness?
[12:03] <synd-> ablyss
[12:03] <hondje> maybe one could make /usr/bin/xscreensaver not executable
[12:03] <bob2> gmc: (it's not run by ubuntu/canonical, the most anyone here could do is change the dns entry to point us.archive.ubuntu.com at archive.ubuntu.com)
[12:03] <bob2> synd-: I use mine to lock the screen
[12:04] <ablyss> i knew that synd-
[12:05] <thoreauputic> synd: xscreensaver-command -throttle  will just blank the screen without losing the locking behaviour
[12:05] <drasko> hi all. When logging in gnome I can not select any language but English. Whre to change that?
[12:05] <zerokills> i love cedega
[12:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> zerokills,thats a new sentiment
[12:06] <synd-> bob2, true. but does it turn off after a certain amt of time?
[12:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> but yes, its good :)
[12:06] <bob2> synd-: X odes, yeah
[12:06] <bob2> er, "does"
[12:06] <zerokills> :)
[12:06] <ukato> i'm having trouble understanding the readme of a driver i'm trying to build from source, can anyone help? the source and readme are at http://sourceforge.net/projects/zd1211/ if anyone is willing to help
[12:07] <zerokills> kamping_kaiser, does your name have anything to do with FFXI?
[12:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> nope
[12:07] <bob2> ukato: it'd be easier to decide if we can help if you're more specific
[12:07] <bob2> ukato: ie, tell us which bit you don't understand
[12:08] <ukato> okay
[12:08] <ukato> well, this part so far
[12:08] <ukato> - To build zd1211 you will need: Configured kernel source code for the
[12:08] <ukato>   kernel you are running. Ideally, Configured means that you have at
[12:08] <ukato>   least run 'make config', 'make menuconfig', or 'make xconfig'. If your
[12:08] <ukato>   platform is not SMP system, please don't config SMP supported, because
[12:08] <ukato>   when module loaded, this will make unresolved symbol..
[12:08] <ukato> 
[12:08] <popey> aargh
[12:08] <popey> don't post the whole damn thing
[12:08] <synd-> is there popup notifier such as Growl for OS X that is avail?
[12:09] <ukato> ssssssorry.
[12:09] <popey> synd: to notify what?
[12:09] <bob2> synd-: what dpes "growl" do?
[12:09] <drasko> hi all. When logging in gnome I can not select any language but English. Where to change that?
[12:09] <bob2> ukato: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential
[12:09] <hondje> drasko: install a language pack for what you want
[12:09] <zerokills> oh, hehe, kaiser is a monster in FFXI, and youre supposed to camp it... thats why i wondered
[12:09] <bob2> drasko: er, pick one channel
[12:10] <bob2> and no, Debian is not the same as Ubuntu, nor similar in any way in this regard
[12:10] <Kpjas> Hi what's wrong with totem ? How can I change its defaulting to mp3 player and video player in the system ?
[12:11] <ukato>  bob2, thanks, is that all one command?
[12:11] <SirMud> hello, im still pretty new to linux, but i want to switch to xfree86 instead of x.org for ati tv input, can i use both and just switch back and forth?
[12:11] <Madpilot> ukato: http://pastebin.ca/  <-- better way of sharing long cut'n'paste things.
[12:11] <bob2> ukato: yes
[12:11] <ukato> Madpilot, okay, thanks
[12:11] <ukato> sorry about that
[12:11] <synd-> bob2, popey: Growl is a global notification system for Mac OS X. Any application can send a notification to Growl, which will display an attractive message on your screen. Growl currently works with a growing number of applications. http://growl.info/about.php
[12:12] <Madpilot> hmmm... is anyone else getting a strange error msg trying to get to pastebin.com or ubuntu.pastebin.com?
[12:12] <bob2> that sounds very marketdroidy
[12:12] <thoreauputic> Kpjas: there's nothing wrong with totem, and you can change the default in the right click menu for a file under "properties" "open with"
[12:12] <popey> hehe
[12:12] <synd-> bob2, i yaked it off the page : )
[12:12] <Kpjas> Why is totem broken, then ?
[12:12] <bob2> Kpjas: you'd need to explain in what way you think it is "broken"
[12:13] <thoreauputic> Kpjas: totem isn't broken: what 's the problem?
[12:13] <SirMud> i couldn't get totem to play anything, vlc works great though
[12:13] <popey> Madpilot: yes, pastebin looks a bit broken
[12:13] <gm78> hey, does anyone here know how to use mplex....im having a problem?
[12:13] <thoreauputic> Kpjas: you are making a lot of assumptions...
[12:13] <userx1> I download a CVS file, then run as what README says, and I got this error:
[12:13] <userx1> ./autogen.sh: line 7: aclocal: command not found
[12:13] <userx1> ./autogen.sh: line 8: autoheader: command not found
[12:13] <bob2> userx1: so, install build-essential and automake and autoconf
[12:13] <userx1> ./autogen.sh: line 9: autoconf: command not found
[12:13] <LikesHisLunch> does anyone here have experience building OpenOffice with ooo-build?
[12:14] <hondje> growl looks like kdialog
[12:14] <Kpjas> "Can not run program Totem resoure busy or not available"  or sth like that
[12:14] <userx1> bob2, its also in the Synaptic ?
[12:14] <bob2> userx1: of course
[12:14] <drasko> bob2, same for you :)
[12:14] <userx1> what string i will type in the search ?
[12:14] <bob2> drasko: I don't ask questions in inapproriate channels...please just ask in the right, single one in future
[12:14] <synd-> hondje, kde :/
[12:16] <Kpjas> thoreauputic: "Can not run program Totem resource busy or not available" is not very helpful for a ubuntu newbie do I dare to ask here
[12:16] <thoreauputic> Kpjas: what kind of file are you trying to play?
[12:16] <Kpjas> thoreauputic: mp3 or a DVD
[12:17] <drasko> bob2, I have two distros one debia, one ubunut, and the same problem. I know what I am douing, tnx...
[12:17] <tov> a
[12:17] <thoreauputic> Kpjas: OK read http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[12:17] <bob2> drasko: no, you don't, the answer is completely different in each distro
[12:17] <ukato> bob2, ok, i ran that
[12:17] <bob2> drasko: in ubuntu, there are language packs for each language, which contain all the translated strings
[12:17] <thoreauputic> Kpjas: that will explain how to get support for mp3 and video
[12:18] <bob2> drasko: in debian, they're in the packages themselves
[12:18] <Dilkes> how do I get pppd to startup automatically? (Hoary)
[12:18] <Kpjas> aha thoreauputic thanks for the tip
[12:18] <zerokills> kpjas: also try ubuntuguide.org, theres helpful information there also
[12:18] <thoreauputic> Kpjas: no worries :)
[12:18] <drasko> bob2, so I have two problem then :)
[12:18] <userx1> ./autogen.sh: line 9: libtoolize: command not found
[12:18] <userx1>  ?
[12:18] <userx1> ./autogen.sh: line 9: glibtoolize: command not found
[12:18] <bob2> userx1: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[12:19] <thoreauputic> Kpjas: the wiki is a good place to search for answers BTW :)
[12:19] <bob2> userx1: please stop pasting things in here
[12:19] <userx1> sorry, Im just new to Ubuntu....
[12:19] <Kpjas> thoreauputic: it looked like my setup is screwed up in some way :)
[12:19] <userx1> sorry for my questions
[12:20] <thoreauputic> Kpjas: unlikely :)
[12:20] <Kpjas> thoreauputic: I'd tinkedred to get sound working
[12:20] <zerokills> userxl: np, its ok to ask, it just gets bothersome spamming errors
[12:20] <thoreauputic> userx1: use pastebin.com or #flood
[12:20] <synd-> does anyone successfully use a Linksys WPC54G PCMCIA wireless card?
[12:21] <bob2> synd-: I gather gnome's notification area API is being redesigned to do things like that
[12:21] <Madpilot> thoreauputic: checked pastebin.com lately? ;) it seems to be FUBAR'd. pastebin.ca does work, though...
[12:21] <synd-> bob2, i see
[12:21] <pepsi> bob2, https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11758
[12:21] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: ah - thanks for the tip
[12:21] <pepsi> is that good? i never filed a bug before
[12:21] <userx1> it says in the site packages.ubunto.com "Cant find that package" ? :(
[12:22] <bob2> userx1: no, search for the file
[12:22] <userx1> i search for a package for libtoolize
[12:22] <bob2> yes, I know
[12:22] <ukato> so, pastebin.ca is down?
[12:22] <bob2> there's no package called that
[12:22] <bob2> libtoolize is a file inside the libtool package
[12:22] <userx1> how about glibtoolize ?
[12:22] <bob2> pepsi: looks fine
[12:22] <bob2> userx1: search for it
[12:23] <bob2> userx1: go and look at the page again, and read what it says (and remember to scroll down)
[12:23] <d8uv> Any idea why multi-gnome-terminal in Universe md5borks?
[12:23] <userx1> ok
[12:23] <bob2> d8uv: don't use us.archive.ubuntu.com
[12:23] <synd-> d8uv, the us.archives are borked
[12:24] <Keito> what to use instead?
[12:24] <bob2> archive.ubuntu.com
[12:24] <Madpilot> ukato: no, pastebin.ca works. pastebin.com doesn't.
[12:24] <synd-> d8uv, remove all instances of us.* in your sources, is what i was told.
[12:24] <bob2> no
[12:24] <synd-> and it worked good for me
[12:24] <bob2> just change it to archive.ubuntu.com
[12:25] <zerokills> <3 cedega
[12:25] <synd-> bob2, is it just us.archive.ubuntu.com thats messed up?
[12:25] <thoreauputic> synd: ca. is the same so it's also borked, I hear
[12:25] <ukato> madpilot, alright
[12:26] <ukato> madpilot, could i bother you for a sec
[12:26] <SirMud> does anyone run xfree86 instead of x.org?
[12:27] <Madpilot> ukato: go ahead?
[12:27] <claint> i am getting a "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!" error. it is not telling me which gpg key i am lacking. my /etc/apt/secring.gpg is empty. any tippers?
[12:28] <mactiny> i have read what has been said on breezy badger, but exactly what areas of ubuntu do you think need further development. Im not a user of ubuntu yet, so i thought id ask you lot
[12:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> claint, this us repositries?
[12:29] <Keito> i'm also getting athenication problems all the time now
[12:29] <hondje> I think that if I try to erase something in nautilus, and perms are denied as root owns them, it should pop up a little dialog asking for the passwd
[12:30] <hondje> and /dev/shm should be mounted noexec, yep
[12:30] <Keito> hondje, that would be a good function
[12:30] <mactiny> yeah
[12:30] <hondje> Keito: yeah, writing a nautilus script to do that is on my to-do list, which often becomes didn't-do :)
[12:30] <synd-> thoreauputic, http://pastebin.ca/14029
[12:31] <synd-> thoreauputic, thats my sources.list. look ok to you?
[12:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> gday holycow
[12:31] <Keito> hondje, hehe, long live the lazyness
[12:31] <Dilkes_> Where do I put an init string for the modem in System, Preferences, Networking? I have a lucent ltwinmodem
[12:31] <hondje> I'll drink to that ;-)
[12:31] <thoreauputic> synd: looking
[12:31] <holycow> mornin :)
[12:31] <LikesHisLunch> mactiny: how to set environment variables should be better documented (and perhaps easier); the colour scheme hasn't exactly attracted universal approval; a special repository for the latest key development packages (e.g. mono) ...
[12:31] <holycow> anyone here use mythtv?
[12:32] <thoreauputic> synd: at a glance, yes, although I personally stay away from backports ;)
[12:32] <mactiny> agreed
[12:32] <LikesHisLunch> mactiny: but most of the problems with ubuntu are common to most distros
[12:32] <mactiny> agreed again
[12:32] <Bamboocha> where can i change keyboard layout for login screen?
[12:32] <bob2> synd-: afaik, yes
[12:32] <synd-> thoreauputic, yeah, ive been told that as well..
[12:32] <mactiny> it would be nice if the problems got finally fixed, its sad that they repeat themselves over all the distros
[12:33] <synd-> whats the deal with backports, anyway?
[12:33] <iluciv> it is possible to get 3d drivers working for ati 9250 isn't it??
[12:33] <LikesHisLunch> synd: what deal?
[12:33] <bob2> iluciv: they work by default
[12:33] <iluciv> not 3d
[12:33] <bob2> iluciv: there's no need to install any binary drivers
[12:33] <bob2> iluciv: yes, it does
[12:33] <thoreauputic> synd: a couple of us spent an hour or more helping a guy whose system was borked by a backports version of firfox
[12:34] <SirMud> i got opengl support on my 9200
[12:34] <iluciv> for cadgera it's tellin me no
[12:34] <synd-> thoreauputic, ah.
[12:34] <synd-> backports be gone
[12:34] <LikesHisLunch> thoreauputic: what had he done wrong - if anything?
[12:34] <thoreauputic> um.. firefox
[12:34] <hondje> they're not backports, they're repackaging, often ignoring builddeps
[12:35] <thoreauputic> LikesHisLunch: hard to say - I couldn't see that he'd done anything wrong except using backports, but it's possible..
[12:35] <thoreauputic> LikesHisLunch: once he removed backports, everything got fixed
[12:35] <mactiny> i was trying to teach an older family member the other day basic pc skills, and i was reminded what we experienced users take for granted as just common sense, it also reminds me of how much development can still go into making things easier, eg as your point highlighted in terms of documentation
[12:35] <Stew2> Anyone know how to add a modem init to a connection in System, Networking?
[12:36] <bob2> mactiny: please file wishlist bugs for things you'd like fixed
[12:36] <SirMud> tuxracer runs like a mofo, but nexuiz is really finicky (not sure bout it though, its finicky in win too)
[12:36] <claint> Kamping_Kaiser : sorry for the late answer, yes it is the us repositories.
[12:36] <mactiny> fair enough, but just chatting
[12:36] <LikesHisLunch> thoreauputic: ok, thanks
[12:36] <Bamboocha> where can i change keyboard layout for login screen?
[12:37] <GazaM> Nexuiz is a bit premature in my opinion, perhaps there will be improvements in the updates
[12:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> claint, they have been having problems with such things
[12:37] <claint> Kamping_Kaiser : so they are comprimised?
[12:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> not as far as i know
[12:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> they just seem to be having corruption problems
[12:38] <claint> Kamping_Kaiser : hmmm
[12:38] <SirMud> it does seem a little rushed, sometimes it starts fine, but mostly it takes forever to start and won't get more than 6 fps
[12:38] <claint> Kamping_Kaiser : i should just put in a european repository anyway. since i am there.
[12:38] <Howitzer> ah us.archive.ubuntu is back up again :D
[12:38] <SirMud> when it runs good, it runs GOOD
[12:39] <Bamboocha> claint: is there any difference between us and european repository?
[12:39] <Howitzer> claint, where can you find a list of european(dutch)repositories and where can you add them?(via synaptic)
[12:39] <d8uv> I love you all.
[12:40] <_dolny> peace and flowers;)
[12:40] <_dolny> and (k)ubuntu
[12:40] <Howitzer> lol
[12:40] <hornsby> :D
[12:40] <GazaM> lo
[12:40] <GazaM> l
[12:40] <Howitzer> i'm going to try out kubuntu in 2 minutes or so :D
[12:40] <hornsby> It rocks
[12:41] <Howitzer> no wait
[12:41] <GazaM> Does anyone here know alot about IRC, as in how to create your own channel and stuff?
[12:41] <hornsby> me love kubuntr :)
[12:41] <Howitzer> 12 minutes :x
[12:41] <Howitzer> GazaM,
[12:41] <Howitzer> it's eay
[12:41] <bob2> GazaM: you just join it and it's created if it doesn't exist
[12:41] <zerokills> ok, i reinstalled Ubuntu and as a result had to install everything back in again.  to install my nvidia drivers i typed in sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx. it supposedly installed successfully, but i get an error when i run glxgears, any ideas?
[12:41] <mactiny> guys wouldnt it make more sense to add a few repository's in the defualt install of ubuntu
[12:42] <mactiny> gazaam, i could help you
[12:42] <bob2> zerokills: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:42] <bob2> mactiny: er, for example?
[12:42] <GazaM> bob2, what about if I leave, will the channel then be deleted aswell?
[12:42] <mactiny> well, before i could get my modem working, there wasnt exactly much for me to see
[12:42] <bob2> GazaM: yes
[12:43] <mactiny> and trying to explain to a noob what a repository is , well you get my point
[12:43] <bob2> mactiny: er
[12:43] <archster> what is the name of the command that goes out and checks the repositories and picks the fastest ones?
[12:43] <bob2> mactiny: you can't include undistributable drivers on the cd, sorry
[12:43] <GazaM> And how can I make the channel private?
[12:43] <bob2> archster: apt-spy?
[12:43] <bob2> GazaM: /mode #channelname +s
[12:43] <mactiny> i wasnt talking aBOUT DRIVERS
[12:43] <zerokills> sweet, thanks bob2
[12:43] <mactiny> soz capps
[12:43] <bob2> mactiny: what are you talking about then?
[12:43] <GazaM> thanks very much bob2
[12:44] <GazaM> appreciate it
[12:44] <claint> Bamboocha : i dont know yet
[12:44] <mactiny> program lists
[12:44] <thoreauputic> mactiny: there's a limit to what you can fit on one CD... If that's what you mean
[12:44] <zerokills> bob2: how do i restart x?  ctrl+alt+f1?
[12:44] <claint> Howitzer : that is what i am working on, trying to find a good eu repository right now.
[12:44] <mactiny> im talking about potential downloads
[12:44] <thoreauputic> zerokills: ctrl-alt-backspace
[12:45] <Howitzer> oh
[12:45] <zerokills> k
[12:45] <zerokills> brb
[12:45] <Howitzer> but how do you add 'm?
[12:45] <Bamboocha> where can i change keyboard layout for login screen?
[12:45] <bob2> mactiny: e.g.?
[12:45] <bob2> mactiny: like enabling the universe repository, you mean?
[12:45] <mactiny> yes
[12:46] <mactiny> in a sense
[12:46] <ursasmar> whiprush: new install is working just fine now
[12:46] <bob2> mactiny: that was explcitly disabled
[12:46] <mactiny> what were the reasons
[12:46] <bob2> mactiny: so people realise when they start using unsupported software
[12:46] <mactiny> oh ok
[12:47] <Jormundgand> &^&^&*! Why won't this stupid Flash plugin play music?
[12:47] <mactiny> could the defualt list, be perhaops slightly more detailed
[12:47] <bob2> Jormundgand: because you don't have an sblive
[12:47] <mactiny> surely, the supported list is longer
[12:47] <bob2> Jormundgand: pkill esd, then try again
[12:47] <bob2> mactiny: no
[12:47] <mactiny> really, oh ok
[12:47] <mactiny> :)
[12:47] <Jormundgand> bob2: Nothing.
[12:48] <bob2> Jormundgand: did you restart firefox?
[12:48] <Jormundgand> bob2: Yes.
[12:48] <mactiny> couldnt there be a "not officially supported" notice on programs
[12:48] <bob2> Jormundgand: find out what else is using your soundcard then
[12:49] <SigNagE> http://linuxsurvival.com is that turoial any good?
[12:49] <Stew2> Anyone know how to add a modem init to a dialup ppp connection in System, Administration, Networking?
[12:49] <SirMud> bamboocha: if you have the language pack installed it should show up as an option
[12:49] <zerokills> thanks again bob2, i forgot to enable the config
[12:49] <Bamboocha> SirMud: as an option where?
[12:49] <Bamboocha> SirMud: i dont know where to look for it
[12:50] <Jormundgand> bob2: The problem seems to be ESD - it can't construct a pipeline (whatever that means).
[12:50] <SirMud> there should be and button named options
[12:50] <Bamboocha> i can change layout in gnome after login, but the login screen is not affected
[12:50] <bob2> Jormundgand: so, kill it
[12:50] <SirMud> on the gdm login screen there is a button named options
[12:50] <Bamboocha> SirMud: ok i have it
[12:51] <Bamboocha> but there is no keyboard layout option here
[12:51] <mactiny> my point is, if i start burning disks, and handing htem out, most poeple who boot them up wouldnt realize exactly how powerful ubuntu was
[12:51] <bob2> mactiny: sure, so we need kick ass docs
[12:51] <mactiny> well exactly
[12:51] <mactiny> i think this would go along way
[12:52] <mactiny> it could be fairly simple
[12:52] <bob2> what would? enabling universe?
[12:52] <mactiny> lol
[12:52] <mactiny> kick as docs
[12:52] <bob2> ah
[12:52] <bob2> indeed
[12:52] <mactiny> i was getting to my point
[12:52] <bob2> join the doc team!
[12:52] <bob2> and write docs!
[12:53] <thoreauputic> bob2: actually the current synaptic interface for enabling universe etc confuses beginners, too
[12:53] <bob2> hmm
[12:53] <mactiny> well thats my point
[12:53] <bob2> someone should file a bug :-)
[12:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> the new synaptics a bitch
[12:53] <mactiny> the whole process, initially makes no snese to them
[12:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> the one with Warty was great
[12:53] <userx1> what is the best ssh server for Ubuntu that can be monitored in GUI mode ?
[12:53] <Howitzer> 35secs 'till Kubuntu \ o /
[12:53] <bob2> mvo is a freak at fixing things quickly
[12:53] <Howitzer> ARGH
[12:53] <Howitzer> NOT AGAIN
[12:53] <mactiny> i think it is important to spell things out for new users
[12:53] <bob2> userx1: there's only one ssh server in ubuntu...
[12:54] <bob2> userx1: what do you mean "monitored in GUI mode"?
[12:54] <bob2> Jormundgand: is firefox configured to use esd or OSS? iirc, it defaults to esd.
[12:54] <userx1> all who logins
[12:54] <Jormundgand> bob2: No idea, and don't know how to find out.
[12:54] <userx1> its possible ?
[12:54] <Howitzer> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdepim/kmailcvt_3.4.0-0ubuntu10_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[12:54] <Howitzer> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdeutils/klaptopdaemon_3.4.0-0ubuntu2_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[12:54] <Howitzer> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdeutils/kregexpeditor_3.4.0-0ubuntu2_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[12:54] <Howitzer> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdeutils/kdeutils_3.4.0-0ubuntu2_all.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[12:54] <Howitzer> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[12:54] <bob2> Jormundgand: sudo dpkg-reconfigure mozilla-firefox
[12:54] <Howitzer> wtf is that??
[12:54] <bob2> Howitzer: dude
[12:54] <bob2> Howitzer: ffs
[12:54] <zerokills> aah
[12:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> dont
[12:54] <bob2> Howitzer: people have been talking all night about how us.archive.ubuntu.com is screwed
[12:55] <bob2> Howitzer: point it at archive.ubuntu.com
[12:55] <Jormundgand> bob2: Would be perfect if I were using the version packaged with Ubuntu. I'm using Deer Park.
[12:55] <Howitzer> but i hought it was up again
[12:55] <bob2> Jormundgand: guess you're on your own then
[12:55] <Howitzer> i mean
[12:55] <Howitzer> it downloaded 80mb
[12:55] <bob2> Howitzer: being up and being useful are different things ;p
[12:55] <GazaM> If I want to uninstall a program I installed from a .deb, do I use the command sudo dpkg remove or what?
[12:55] <Howitzer> oh :(
[12:55] <bob2> GazaM: sudo dpkg -P packagename
[12:55] <Howitzer> how do i change to archive.ubuntu.com then?
[12:55] <bob2> GazaM: or use synaptic or aptitude or apt-get or ...
[12:55] <sascha_> hi, using OO2, I cant use some Wizards. Nothing happens. btw, on OO1 it didnt work either. Different error, but it didnt work
[12:55] <GazaM> thanks again bob2
[12:55] <Howitzer> i want kubuntu D:
[12:55] <bob2> Howitzer: if you're installing, the installer asks you
[12:56] <Howitzer> but well it doesn't
[12:56] <bob2> it does for me
[12:56] <sascha_> anybody can help with OOo2 Wizards, please?
[12:56] <Howitzer> Oo
[12:56] <zerokills> howitzer: (1) change in sources.list (2) Kubuntu is more difficult to figure out than Ubuntu
[12:56] <bob2> userx1: you don't need a gui built in to the ssh server for that, that would be silly
[12:56] <Howitzer> but
[12:56] <Howitzer> hmm
[12:56] <thoreauputic> sascha_: could you possibly be a bit vaguer ;) ?
[12:56] <bob2> userx1: just run "xterm -e tail -f /var/log/auth.log"
[12:56] <Howitzer> wherre is that sources list then
[12:56] <bob2> Howitzer: maybe it's different in kubuntu, #kubuntu might know
[12:56] <bob2> oooooooooogra!
[12:57] <claint> by the way, the authentication errors I were because of the backports
[12:57] <Howitzer> ut i'm not in kubuntu
[12:57] <bob2> yay backports
[12:57] <claint> by the way, the authentication errors I was getting were because of the backports
[12:57] <Howitzer> i'm in gnome
[12:57] <userx1> ok
[12:57] <sascha_> thoreauputic, yes I can.....I start Wizard for eg Agenda and nothing happens
[12:57] <SirMud> bamboocha: im not finding anything in the gdm config files, did you check the wiki?
[12:57] <bob2> Howitzer: oh
[12:57] <Howitzer> but i want to intall kubuntu
[12:57] <bob2> Howitzer: just edit /etc/apt/sources.list then
[12:57] <ogra> booob2 :)
[12:57] <zerokills> howitzer: in terminal type 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:57] <mactiny> i havent actually used it, but wouldnt linspires system be a nice system to emulate. The fact that they make things so obviousfor noobs i think is of real benefit
[12:57] <thoreauputic> sascha_: I don't know "Agenda"
[12:57] <bob2> ogra: CoC, dude ;p
[12:57] <Howitzer> and add archives.ubuntu.com as first?
[12:57] <Bamboocha> SirMud: no i didnt... what's it?
[12:57] <userx1> so how do Administrator monitor their Shell servers ?
[12:57] <ogra> bob2, ;)
[12:57] <bob2> mactiny: but useless for experienced users, so it falls by the wayside
[12:58] <SirMud> goto www.ubuntulinux.com/wiki
[12:58] <mactiny> fair enough
[12:58] <zerokills> howitzer: replace us.archives.ubuntu with archives.ubuntu.com
[12:58] <bob2> Howitzer: no, replace "us.archive.ubuntu.com" with "archive.ubuntu.com"
[12:58] <bob2> userx1: by reading their logs
[12:58] <Howitzer> oh
[12:58] <Howitzer> okay
[12:58] <mactiny> but how hard would it be tp have an advanced or basic interface
[12:58] <bob2> userx1: and using programs that automatically scan logs and email/page them about important things
[12:58] <sascha_> thoreauputic, ok...Menu/File/Wizards/Letter for example....nothing happens
[12:58] <bob2> mactiny: why don't you try to implement it and see?
[12:58] <mactiny> as in "most "macromedia" progs
[12:58] <Howitzer> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse
[12:58] <Howitzer> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse
[12:58] <Howitzer> right?
[12:58] <userx1> in Ubuntu, in what Directory are logs stored ?
[12:58] <bob2> Howitzer: yup
[12:59] <id_sonic> hihihi
[12:59] <bob2> userx1: /var/log, the same as every other linux distribution
[12:59] <bob2> and unix-based OS
[12:59] <userx1> thanks :)
[12:59] <bob2> (afaik!)
[12:59] <mactiny> well im still talking
[12:59] <thoreauputic> sascha_: in a particular app? an app I probably don't use and know nothing about?
[12:59] <Howitzer> it still downloads from us.
[12:59] <sascha_> thoreauputic, aahhh, OpenOffice.org 2. Sorry
[12:59] <thoreauputic> ah Ok
[01:00] <Howitzer> wtf??
[01:00] <Howitzer> i don't get it
[01:00] <thoreauputic> sascha_: I use the default one
[01:00] <Howitzer> it should be working now
[01:00] <userx1> how to clear the auth.log safely ?
[01:00] <thoreauputic> sascha_: 2 is kinda new and possibly has bi=ugs - I wouldn't know
[01:00] <id_sonic> Have only japanese???????
[01:00] <userx1> rm ?
[01:00] <thoreauputic> *bugs
[01:00] <userx1> command
[01:00] <bob2> userx1: why would you want to do that?
[01:00] <sascha_> OOo 1.1.4? didnt work with it either. This is why I switched to 2
[01:00] <bob2> Howitzer: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood
[01:00] <userx1> coz it has already lots of logs
[01:00] <userx1> its hard to read it
[01:01] <Howitzer> aargh
[01:01] <bob2> userx1: you're reading it wrong
[01:01] <bob2> userx1: I guess you're new to linux, so let me go on  a little tangent
[01:01] <userx1> i just use "pico" command
[01:01] <userx1> yes, its my first time to use Linux
[01:01] <bob2> userx1: every day, those log files get rotated and replaced with empty ones
[01:01] <userx1> and Ubuntu is my first Distro
[01:02] <bob2> userx1: the old ones get compressed
[01:02] <userx1> in what directory are the compressed old once goes thru ?
[01:02] <bob2> userx1: /var/log, too
[01:03] <userx1> ah ic...
[01:03] <GhettoFish> Hmm how do i open splitted rar-files?
[01:03] <bob2> GhettoFish: unrar x foo.rar
[01:03] <bob2> in the dir full of rar parts
[01:03] <LGius> having problems with Battery Charge Monitor. Battery status is not refreshing at all. Ubuntu 5.04, fresh install. Notebook: HP Pavilion ze5630us
[01:03] <userx1> i got only little knowledge in Linux when Im using Eggdrop and BNC last year
[01:03] <GhettoFish> bob2,  kk i'll try that
[01:04] <bob2> userx1: what are you hoping to monitor?
[01:04] <userx1> and setting Botnet
[01:04] <thoreauputic> sascha_: hmmm - autopilot letter seems to open OK here...
[01:04] <userx1> to install my own Shell server
[01:04] <thoreauputic> I assume autopilot and wizard are the same
[01:04] <bob2> userx1: a shell server is just a unix machine you let people login to
[01:05] <userx1> my system currently using now run in 3.2 Ghz Pentium 4 and 512 DDR
[01:05] <bob2> userx1: it's a very very very bad idea to let strangers login if you're not an experienced administrator, though
[01:05] <Howitzer> Kubuntu is installing \ o /
[01:05] <sascha_> thoreauputic, I just tried .... He cant find the template. Asks me to run Setup/Repair
[01:05] <userx1> thats why im learning... :)
[01:05] <Howitzer> Hey wait
[01:05] <Howitzer> ehh
[01:05] <thoreauputic> right - i see hte same thing: possibly it's a java issue
[01:05] <userx1> If I go to school, even Instructors didnt know what they're teaching
[01:05] <Howitzer> its doing weird
[01:06] <thoreauputic> sascha_: java missing?
[01:06] <luis_> hi
[01:06] <magoo> hi
[01:06] <sascha_> thoreauputic, erm, never thought about it. Always thought that its automagically installed
[01:06] <thoreauputic> sascha_: I don't know...
[01:06] <luis_> does anybody sepeak spanish?
[01:06] <thoreauputic> java isn't
[01:07] <bob2> luis_: #debian-es
[01:07] <luis_> ok....thanks
[01:07] <bob2> r
[01:07] <bob2> luis_: #ubuntu-es
[01:07] <sascha_> thoreauputic, which java should I install?
[01:08] <thoreauputic> bob2: do you know if the templates in OOo 1.1.4 require java?
[01:08] <bob2> I'm not sure
[01:08] <bob2> I think some wizardy things need java
[01:08] <userx1> another question, how to update my mozilla firefox, its still 1.03
[01:08] <bob2> but I've used OO about 4 times
[01:09] <bob2> userx1: 1.0.3 is not in ubuntu, anywhere
[01:09] <userx1> 1.0.2 i mean
[01:09] <userx1> sorry
[01:09] <bob2> why do you want to upgrade it?
[01:09] <userx1> latest version is 0.4
[01:09] <userx1> right
[01:09] <userx1> ?
[01:09] <demantik> hello people..one quick question...if i want to get an AMD64 3000+. which power supply do i need...400W ok?
[01:09] <thoreauputic> sascha_: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java  << might help
[01:09] <bob2> userx1: 1.0.4, yes
[01:10] <bob2> userx1: why do you want that version, tho?
[01:10] <userx1> i cant use new themes
[01:10] <userx1> update my themes
[01:10] <userx1> :(
[01:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> demantik, get more
[01:10] <LikesHisLunch> userx1: compile from source & install with checkinstall; download from backports (although someone has been having trouble with that today); or if all you care about is the security updates & new themes, then update the version number (ubuntu backports security updates into 1.02)
[01:10] <sascha_> thoreauputic, thank you. so much Java? Bad thing.
[01:11] <userx1> ?
[01:11] <thoreauputic> userx1: go to about:config , enter vendor in the search field, edit vendor string to 1.0.4
[01:11] <userx1> im Linux newbie
[01:11] <demantik> Kamping_Kaiser - what would you suggest?....one dvd drive, one hdd
[01:11] <thoreauputic> sascha_: yes, there's a lot of debate about this atm
[01:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> 500 or 450. probably 500
[01:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> gives you room to move
[01:11] <bob2> userx1: easiest way if you really want it is to get the tarball from www.mozilla.org
[01:11] <demantik> ah alright then.
[01:11] <thoreauputic> userx1: enter about:config inthe URL field of firefox
[01:12] <LikesHisLunch> userx1: here's the bug affecting you: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10681
[01:12] <iluciv> if I'm installing ati drivers why would nvidia-kernel-common be installed (never had nvidia card in box??)
[01:12] <userx1> ok
[01:12] <userx1> :)
[01:12] <userx1> thanks....
[01:12] <userx1> is there also a Form design in Linux, like Visual Basic ?
[01:13] <zerokills> hehe, visual basic
[01:13] <Tomcat_> I think there's some version of Delphi for Linux...
[01:13] <HappyFool> there's something called glade, which has something similar
[01:13] <userx1> i think, i found one of the Linux screenshots
[01:13] <hondje> qtdesigner is nice
[01:14] <userx1> happyfool, where i can download that ?
[01:14] <userx1> is it compatible w/ Ubunto
[01:14] <userx1> ?
[01:14] <Tomcat_> Mh... no, only Delphi for Windows.
[01:14] <bob2> Ubuntu.
[01:14] <LGius> Kylyx
[01:15] <bob2> There's Kylix, but it's not really useful in the FS world.
[01:15] <Tomcat_> Eclipse has a form designer too...
[01:15] <Tomcat_> And NetBeans...
[01:15] <Tomcat_> JBuilder...
[01:15] <userx1> brb, my boss needs me :)
[01:15] <Tomcat_> But for Java.
[01:15] <HappyFool> by form design do we mean GUI design, or something else?
[01:15] <sascha_> thoreauputic, Do I REALLY need the SDK files for Openoffice?
[01:15] <bob2> and glade.
[01:16] <thoreauputic> sascha_: probably j2re I think
[01:16] <sascha_> thoreauputic, JRE was already installed. Do I have to tell Openoffice that I have Java now?
[01:16] <thoreauputic> sascha_: I guess only the runtime stuff is needed
[01:16] <learn25> hi
[01:16] <HappyFool> userx1: anyway, glade and associated odds and ends are available via synaptic / apt-get (i.e., standard ubuntu software install tools)
[01:16] <thoreauputic> ah - I haven't done it so I don't know
[01:17] <zerokills> hello
[01:17] <thoreauputic> sascha_: I guess you have to rerun something or point it at your java install: but I don't know how, sorry
[01:17] <demantik> What are the advantages of Reiser?....i thought it was quite a bit slower than Ext3.
[01:18] <sascha_> thoreauputic, thank you. Will find something
[01:18] <learn25> i just installed wine and i installed my windows program. i dont know the installation directory and how to start my program under wine. Anybody can help me?
[01:19] <mactiny> i must say , in reading through the breezy badger goals, i am struch by how much better breezy will be
[01:19] <mactiny> exciting stuff
[01:19] <learn25> i just installed wine and i installed my windows program. i dont know the installation directory and how to start my program under wine. Anybody can help me?
[01:19] <demantik>  learn25 - ...check... /home/USER/.wine/drive_c/Program Files see if its in there..
[01:19] <thoreauputic> sascha_: ooconfigimport perhaps?
[01:19] <iluciv> ok if I go to remove  nvidia-kernel-common through synaptic it also says its going to remove the kernel headers anyway around this?
[01:20] <learn25> ok
[01:20] <ukato> i'm having trouble understanding the readme of a driver i'm trying to build from source, can anyone help? the source and readme are at http://sourceforge.net/projects/zd1211/ if anyone is willing to help
[01:20] <Aegr> mactiny, amazing what they reckon they will have done by october!
[01:20] <bob2> iluciv: just leave it
[01:20] <learn25> not found
[01:20] <bob2> ukato: you need to explain which bit you don't understand
[01:20] <mactiny> lol, i cant help but agree
[01:21] <mactiny> it seems rather unlikely
[01:21] <demantik> learn25 - what program was it
[01:21] <mactiny> but we can hope
[01:21] <Aegr> yup
[01:21] <ukato> bob2, the rreadme says that i need "configured source code" for the kernel i am running
[01:21] <bob2> ukato: yes, I told you how to get that several hours ago
[01:21] <learn25> that was my quiz master program. i programmed it using visual basic under windows and it install in wine without problems
[01:22] <learn25> but i dont the default installation directory
[01:22] <learn25> i'm new to linux ;-)
[01:22] <ukato> bob2, yeah, sorry, long night. i ran that command you gave me, what exactly did that do
[01:22] <ukato> if you don't mind
[01:22] <kvidell> oh dear god. I just saw the Chapelle Show episode about Charlie Murphy and Rick James for the first time
[01:22] <zerokills> learn25: search the file browser until you find it
[01:22] <kvidell> I feel... I don't know
[01:23] <bob2> ukato: it installed the ubuntu equivalent of "configured source code"
[01:23] <demantik> hmm...well... it should be on the "fake c drive" wine uses.... under /home/YOUR_USER_NAME/.wine/ somewhere
[01:23] <demantik> or just do a file search, has to find it eventually hah
[01:23] <ukato> bob2, oh, alright, thanks
[01:23] <Aegr> is it possible for a DVD writer to no support DMA? "sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc" gives me "HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted"
[01:24] <iluciv> bob2: when I spoke before I'd already tried here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32495&highlight=tvtime which didn't result in 3d drivers working now I'm trying to work out how to undo this to see if the original one work with point 2 play (cadgera)
[01:25] <mjr> Aegr, quite possibly your ide chipset is not properly supported/detected
[01:25] <GazaM> Aegr, what cpu do you use?
[01:25] <Aegr> AMD sempron
[01:26] <Aegr> can it be set via proc?
[01:26] <ukato> bob2, okay, i got a bunch of errors. can i post that anywhere, if you can help?
[01:26] <ukato> i got them after i ran "make*
[01:26] <GazaM> Ok, so what chipset do you have on the motherboard, VIA? Or do you have an nForce motherboard
[01:26] <Hajuu_> hey
[01:26] <Hajuu_> Uhm
[01:26] <nxv_> how do i connect to bluetooth device? i can see it with hcitool scan and know its pwd, but how to connect?
[01:26] <bob2> ukato: #flood
[01:26] <Hajuu_> My ubuntu install doesnt have any of the standard windows fonts...
[01:26] <Aegr> "sudo cat /proc/ide/hdc/settings" has using_dma in the list
[01:26] <Hajuu_> is that normal or what?
[01:27] <Aegr> via I think
[01:27] <demantik> Hajuu - yup
[01:27] <bob2> nxv_: have you installed gnome-bluetooth?
[01:27] <Hajuu_> eg.. times new roman... etc
[01:27] <Aegr> must be VIA
[01:27] <GazaM> Aegr, there is a module which you have to put at the top of /etc/modules in order to be able to setup dma
[01:27] <demantik> Hajuu - arent they microsoft fonts?....im not sure why exactly, but no linux distro ive had has had them..
[01:27] <cavediver> Hi guys. Is there a way to extract files from a .bin/cue image ?
[01:27] <GazaM> I have an nForce with AMD and must put amd74xx at the top, I'll check for VIA now
[01:28] <Aegr> great thanks
[01:28] <bob2> cavediver: bchunk
[01:28] <demantik> fair few aussies in here it seems :|
[01:28] <thoreauputic> Hajuu_: enable the multiverse repository , and " sudoa pt-get install msttcorefonts"
[01:28] <bob2> we're everywhere
[01:28] <Hajuu_> lol bwahahaha
[01:28] <Hajuu_> Why doesn't it come with them as standard, I wonder..
[01:29] <demantik> bob2 - LOL..it seems so..
[01:29] <thoreauputic> Hajuu_: sorry  sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts"
[01:29] <GazaM> Aegr, put this module at the top
[01:29] <Hajuu_> Like 99% of webpages use them...
[01:29] <GazaM> via82cxxx
[01:29] <GazaM> Got that?
[01:29] <bob2> Hajuu_: they're not not freely modifiable
[01:29] <cavediver> bob2: ok, only to apt-get that ?
[01:29] <cavediver> clear
[01:29] <bob2> cavediver: indeed
[01:29] <Hajuu_> why do they need to be modified?
[01:29] <thoreauputic> Hajuu_: erm.. because they are "Microsoft" fonts ??
[01:29] <cavediver> sorry
[01:29] <drummer87> hey, can someone help me with e17's engage? when running it in gnome there's just a grey bar of 'static fuzz' and it looks like it has a mem leak
[01:29] <bob2> ukato: the driver is broken
[01:29] <Aegr> according to lsmod that is loaded
[01:29] <bob2> Hajuu_: they don't, but everything else on the ubuntu cd (aside from the silly binary drivers) is
[01:29] <GazaM> sudo gedit /etc/modules
[01:30] <drummer87> using 180m of ram and increasing b4 i killed it
[01:30] <ukato> bob2, okay, thanks a lot. would another download perhaps fix it
[01:30] <bob2> ukato: no
[01:30] <bob2> ukato: is the driver supposed to work on a 2.6 kernel?
[01:30] <Fingertips> hello has anybody installed Star Control II on Ubuntu?
[01:30] <GazaM> Aegr is via82cxxx in /etc/modules
[01:30] <Aegr> how do you change settings via proc?
[01:30] <stjepan> hello
[01:30] <GazaM> specifically at the top of the list
[01:30] <Hajuu_> hmmm
[01:30] <ukato> bob2, it says it's been verified on 2.6.6 and 2.6.7
[01:30] <Hajuu_> well bah
[01:30] <stjepan> one stupid question plesase
[01:30] <Hajuu_> still weird
[01:31] <Aegr> GazaM, no it isn't but it is listed in lsmod
[01:31] <stjepan> how to execute script file *.sh
[01:31] <stjepan> ?
[01:31] <Hajuu_> stjepan:  Why did the chicken cross the road?
[01:31] <Aegr> so i am guessing the hardware detection stuff loaded it for me
[01:31] <GazaM> Right, well gedit /etc/modules and put via82cxxx on top of the list
[01:31] <demantik> ./filename........ or....  sh filename.sh
[01:31] <stjepan> it wants to get over
[01:31] <thoreauputic> Hajuu_: what's weird about proprietary fonts not being available on a Linux distro??
[01:31] <GazaM> then reboot and try again to set dma
[01:32] <Aegr> ok
[01:32] <ukato> bob2, but i thought it might work on anything from 2.6
[01:32] <Fingertips> GazaM, do you know how to install Star Control II UQM to ubuntu
[01:32] <mjr> ...on a linux distro that somewhat ephasizes freedom, nonetheless
[01:32] <bob2> ukato: it should do
[01:32] <GazaM> Fingertips, unfortunately I don't. Sorry I can't help
[01:32] <Madpilot> GazaM: have been following your DMA thing... what is the NForce module name?
[01:32] <Hajuu_> thoreauputic:  Well it somewhat limits the web viewing experience... They could atleast provide a replacement.
[01:32] <Fingertips> GazaM, it gives me a .deb package when i download it
[01:32] <GazaM> amd74xx
[01:33] <Fingertips> GazaM, do you know how to run those?
[01:33] <GazaM> oh, well then just type 'sudo dpkg -i (name of program).deb
[01:33] <ukato> bob2, alright, so there isn't much i can do?
[01:33] <pinko> aren't there free clones for any common font?
[01:33] <thoreauputic> Hajuu_: YOU are now part of THEY, in case you didn't get the concept
[01:33] <bob2> ukato: not really.  try asking on their mailing list
[01:33] <GazaM> You get that fingertips?
[01:34] <jamel> Hi. Can anyone help with scanner permissions? Xsane works fine as root, but not as a user. I have the user in the scanner group, but still no permission. Anything I've missed?
[01:34] <GazaM> I'd put the .deb in your home directory first so you don't have to cd around to the directory
[01:34] <ukato> bob2, ok thanks. sorry for the trouble
[01:34] <Fingertips> GazaM, yes
[01:34] <bob2> ukato: no problem, sorry it's not working for you
[01:34] <Madpilot> GazaM: thnx.
[01:34] <GazaM> No probs
[01:34] <GazaM> just make sure the module is at the top of the list
[01:35] <Madpilot> GazaM: it is. does just restarting X force reload of modules or do I have to restart the whole machine?
[01:35] <demantik> Anybody know how/where i can get Luminocity? (gnome project) or enlightenment D17?
[01:36] <GazaM> I'd restart the machine, as far as I know X doesn't reload modules
[01:36] <bob2> demantik: you need to compile both from cvs
[01:36] <bob2> demantik: and, afaik, luminocity requires a lot of other hacked stuff
[01:36] <bob2> like custom glitz, cairo, Xgl and xephyr
[01:36] <demantik> bob2 - i couldnt log into the gnome cvs last i tried...? no anon login?
[01:36] <searcher`> bob2: compiling luminocity is nog to bad
[01:36] <searcher`> *not
[01:37] <bob2> demantik: works for me
[01:37] <searcher`> you can use jhbuild
[01:37] <learn25> hello. anybody knows the default installation directory of wine for windows programs?
[01:37] <searcher`> just takes a little while
[01:37] <bob2> I check stuff out fro mtheir like 50 times a day
[01:37] <bob2> searcher`: hm, ok
[01:37] <bob2> searcher`: with Xgl and friends?
[01:37] <demantik> bob2 - alright..i might have another go..
[01:37] <cavediver> bob2: bchunk seems to make iso out of bin files... can it also extract the contents ?
[01:37] <searcher`> yup
[01:37] <searcher`> jhbuild all takes care of it
[01:37] <bob2> cavediver: no, then you mount the .iso
[01:37] <bob2> searcher`: oh, awesome
[01:37] <bob2> go jamesh
[01:37] <searcher`> there was a howto on Seth's blog when they posted it
[01:37] <learn25> hello. anybody knows the default installation directory of wine for windows programs?
[01:37] <cavediver> bob2: oh i see. I don't think i have that loopback so that i can mount it..
[01:38] <bob2> cavediver: sure you do
[01:38] <bob2> learn25: ~/.wine/
[01:38] <cavediver> bob2: what't the command to run ?
[01:38] <Howitzer> wtf
[01:38] <bob2> sudo modprobe loop ; sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 ./file.iso /mnt/
[01:38] <Howitzer> i screwed the icons in Kubuntu Oo
[01:38] <Fingertips> GazaM, im looking @ a few different types of install for SC2, Debain Unstable, Debain Testing, Gentoo, RH9, FC1, FC2, FC3, Mandrakelinux, which package will be thoe most compatable with ubuntu
[01:39] <GazaM> I would go with one of the debians
[01:40] <thoreauputic> Fingertips: it's Debian, by the way, not debain *shudder*
[01:40] <demantik> Logging in to :pserver:anonymous@anoncvs.gnome.org:2401/cvs/gnome..... CVS password: ??
[01:40] <bob2> demantik: blank
[01:40] <searcher`> bob2: http://live.gnome.org/Luminocity
[01:40] <searcher`> i used that
[01:40] <demantik> ah ok
[01:40] <cavediver> bob2: get this. mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0,
[01:41] <searcher`> if you're running warty you have to add `glib' though, the version in warty is too old
[01:41] <bob2> cavediver: what does 'uname -r' print?
[01:41] <cavediver> bob2: 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic
[01:42] <bob2> cavediver: what does 'lsmod | grep loop' print?
[01:42] <cavediver> bob2: loop                   15888  0
[01:43] <davix> where can i get the latest (unstable) array?
[01:43] <userx1> i downloaded the firefox-1.0.4.targ.gz, how do it install it so that the old versioin will automatically replaced?
[01:43] <cavediver> bob2: it did work now. I must have done something wrong the first time.
[01:44] <davix> oh
[01:44] <bob2> davix: it's not called array, they're called colony releases
[01:44] <davix> topic is kinda scarry.
[01:44] <bob2> cavediver: ok
[01:44] <bob2> userx1: you don't replace the one installed, just leave it
[01:44] <cavediver> bob2: thanks !
[01:44] <GazaM> Fingertips, have you downloaded one of them
[01:44] <zerokills> learn25: sorry, had to reboot my system
[01:45] <userx1> how to install it now ?
[01:45] <bob2> userx1: it had no instructions?
[01:45] <userx1> no...
[01:45] <userx1> i seen install.ini
[01:45] <bob2> oh well
[01:45] <userx1> its not an instruction
[01:45] <bob2> no, that doesn't help
[01:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> does anyone know if OpenOffic.org2 or k3b (both for breezy) need seperate repos for install?
[01:45] <SigNagE> hey, can someone help me set up the drivers for my wireless network?
[01:45] <userx1> one is licences.txt
[01:45] <bob2> Kamping_Kaiser: no, they're both in ubuntu
[01:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. bugger
[01:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> thanks though
[01:46] <SigNagE> this computer in on windows, i have one next to it running unundtu
[01:46] <searcher`> userx1: why are you trying to install a .tar.gz file on Ubuntu?
[01:46] <bob2> SigNagE: you need to be a lot more specific...
[01:46] <Fingertips> how do I add a repository
[01:46] <bob2> searcher`: 1.0.2 is too old!
[01:46] <bob2> userx1: 'tar -zxf firefox-1.0.4.targ.gz' in a terminal, as your user
[01:46] <userx1> my firefox is too old
[01:46] <userx1> :(
[01:46] <searcher`> bob2: it's not 1.0.2, it's 1.0.2 with all the security patches backported from 1.0.4
[01:46] <SigNagE> D-link-520+ DWL ACX100, i have the drivers on my system but havnt a lcue how to set em up
[01:46] <bob2> searcher`: yes, I know
[01:47] <thoreauputic> Fingertips: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[01:47] <bob2> SigNagE: load the acx_pci module, assuming it's mini-pci
[01:47] <searcher`> bob2: so why go around the package manager then?
[01:47] <SigNagE> bob2, how?
[01:47] <SigNagE> [im a linux newbie] 
[01:47] <bob2> searcher`: hey, I advised userx1 not to, he/she insists he/she needs it
[01:47] <locomorto> hey, im having trouble mounting disc 2 of world of warcraft
[01:47] <bob2> I'm quite happy with 1.0.2
[01:48] <locomorto> it wont mount auto in XFCE
[01:48] <searcher`> userx1: catch all of that?
[01:48] <SigNagE> can someone help me out in a pm. maybe walk me through it
[01:48] <Fingertips> http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/games/uqm i just want to install that
[01:48] <locomorto> and when i run the command manually, nothing comes up in /media/cdrom or /media/cdrom0
[01:48] <userx1> what next to tar
[01:48] <SigNagE> i know the basic commands to manipulate files
[01:48] <bob2> SigNagE: is it a mini-pci card?
[01:48] <userx1> i extracted it successfully
[01:48] <userx1> :)
[01:48] <itior> hey all, i cant seem to get 5.04 to work with my wireless lan card. it gets detected in the install and detects the wireless network, but i just cant get it to connect
[01:48] <searcher`> userx1: for all intents and purposes, 1.0.2 IS 1.0.4 under ubuntu
[01:48] <GazaM> bye
[01:48] <locomorto> itior: run the network config app
[01:49] <itior> locomorto: i did
[01:49] <locomorto> and set up the network settings from in there
[01:49] <Fingertips> locomorto, http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/games/uqm i just want to intall that file
[01:49] <itior> locomorto: did... in windows all i did was have it detect the wlan, and type in the password
[01:49] <SigNagE> anyone?
[01:49] <itior> i did the same here, but it just doesnt connect
[01:49] <bob2> SigNagE: is it a mini-pci card?
[01:49] <userx1> searcher`, what is the best Ill do with this 1.0.4 ?
[01:50] <userx1> just remove/delete ?
[01:50] <locomorto> itior: so you entered the password in the network config GUI app?
[01:50] <SigNagE> bob2, i think so
[01:50] <thoreauputic> Fingertips: did you happen to look at the URL I posted for you ... at all ?
[01:50] <itior> locomorto: yeah
[01:50] <locomorto> Fingertips: use apt-get?
[01:50] <topyli> Fingertips: so just install it, it's in ubuntu
[01:50] <itior> it says 'activating wlan' for a while
[01:50] <Fingertips> i did that both times
[01:50] <locomorto> sudo apt-get install <packagename>
[01:50] <bob2> SigNagE: then 'sudo modprobe acx_pci' in a terminal
[01:50] <itior> open a terminal, ping www.google.com
[01:50] <Fingertips> said cannot find "uqm"
[01:50] <itior> and it says unknown host
[01:50] <locomorto> do you have universe and multiverse enabled?
[01:51] <topyli> Fingertips: make it find it. use the instructions thoreauputic kindly pointed to you
[01:51] <thoreauputic> Fingertips: peter@prospero:~$ apt-cache search uqm
[01:51] <thoreauputic> uqm - The Ur-Quan Masters - An inter-galatic adventure game
[01:51] <mirieta> hola
[01:51] <itior> locomorto: was that to me?
[01:51] <bob2> SigNagE: no need to /msg me
[01:51] <klaym> hello! Are Kubuntu's and normal Ubuntu's (Gnome) repositories the same? if they aren't, which has the greater amount of applications supported?
[01:52] <locomorto> itior: no
[01:52] <bob2> SigNagE: that's what should happen
[01:52] <locomorto> klaym: there the same
[01:52] <thoreauputic> Fingertips: you need the Multiverse repository
[01:52] <bob2> klaym: kubuntu's repository is identical to ubuntu's
[01:52] <locomorto> brb
[01:52] <Fingertips> thoreauputic, ohhh
[01:52] <Fingertips> got it
[01:52] <Fingertips> thanks
[01:53] <thoreauputic> Fingertips: OK :)
[01:53] <klaym> ok thanks. so programs that work on KDE work also on Gnome?
[01:53] <bob2> SigNagE: please stop /msg'ing me
[01:53] <bob2> klaym: of course
[01:53] <Aron> Yo. I've got a weird problem, my floppy drive won't auto-mount.
[01:53] <klaym> ok. nothing's 'of course' in the world of Linux (at least for a newcomer)
[01:54] <Aron> There is nothing physically wrong with the drive, but it never worked in Warty nor now (Hoary)
[01:54] <userx1> what directory is the best to install the program like Firefox ?
[01:54] <userx1> the current Destination directory is /home/user/Desktop/
[01:54] <bob2> Aron: it won't work on any operating system
[01:54] <bob2> Aron: unless it's a mac
[01:54] <bob2> userx1: anywhere in /home
[01:54] <topyli> Aron: my floppy has never auto-mounted on any system
[01:55] <davix> h
[01:56] <Aron> bob2: By "any OS" you mean any Debian-based? Because it worked in Suse.
[01:56] <bob2> Aron: suse doesn't automount it when you insert it
[01:56] <Aron> bob2: It does when you attempt to access the disk, at least in 9.1
[01:56] <bob2> it may automount when you access it, using some terrible hack
[01:56] <bob2> right
[01:56] <locomorto> Hmm, still no luck
[01:56] <Aron> Alright then, I need to manually mount it?
[01:56] <locomorto> i cant mount my cd
[01:56] <bob2> yes
[01:56] <Aron> k
[01:57] <bob2> SigNagE: seriously, please sopt it
[01:57] <locomorto> it syas it mounted, but nothing shows up
[01:57] <locomorto> i tired using -o unhide too
[01:57] <locomorto> tried*
[01:57] <Aron> I forget, what's the path I mount it to? sudo mount /dev/fda ????
[01:57] <thoreauputic> Aron: if you feel like installing rox-filer, you can get that to mount and display a floppy with a click
[01:57] <Aron> where should it go?
[01:58] <userx1> wow! Im using the latest Firefox now! :)
[01:58] <thoreauputic> /dev/fd0
[01:58] <SigNagE> ok, can anyone else help me out
[01:58] <Aron> k
[01:58] <Aron> doh - filesystem type. What FS does WinXP use for floppies?
[01:58] <bob2> vfat
[01:58] <thoreauputic> Aron: mount  it anywhere you like ( /media/floppy probably)
[01:58] <Aron> thanks. and why didn't I know that? XD XD XD
[01:59] <bob2> it's a shame pc floppies don't tell the computer when a disk is inserted
[01:59] <Aron> yeah
[02:00] <demantik> jhbuild wont work :( LOL....followed the small instructions...which werent much at all...and, it doesnt do anything typing jhbuild anywhere..even in the bin directories..
[02:01] <bob2> do you mean "my shell says 'command not found' when I run jhbuild"?
[02:01] <Aron> oookay. Apparently this thing doesn't even think there's a floppy HERE.
[02:01] <demantik> bob2 - precisely lol
[02:01] <bob2> so
[02:01] <thoreauputic> Aron: seriously, if you want one click mount and unmount, look at rox-filer
[02:01] <bob2> you need to install it
[02:02] <bob2> demantik: this is important, write it down or something
[02:02] <Aron> bob2: A floppy drive wouldn't be detected by Ubuntu installation? o.o
[02:02] <bob2> no idea
[02:02] <bob2> I'd assume so
[02:02] <Aron> One would hope...
[02:02] <hondje> mine was
[02:02] <Aron> well, there's no /dev/fd0
[02:02] <topyli> Aron: or the drive mount applet for the gnome panel
[02:02] <bob2> then you're either using a custom kernel, or the kernel didn't find it
[02:03] <thoreauputic> Aron: waht does grep floppy /etc/fstab say?
[02:03] <thoreauputic> *what
[02:03] <Aron> bob2: standard amd64 kernel, and gimme a sec
[02:03] <topyli> mandrake used to instantly mount everything that moves, but it never really worked for me
[02:03] <demantik> bob2 - write what down exactly? all it says, is jhbuild: command not found
[02:03] <bob2> demantik: yes
[02:03] <Aron> thoreauputic: /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[02:03] <demantik> ok
[02:03] <bob2> demantik: you will encounter that lots of times
[02:03] <bob2> demantik: it means you need to install it
[02:03] <Aron> you've got to be kidding me.
[02:03] <Aron> it SAYS it's there...
[02:03] <bob2> Aron: er
[02:03] <thoreauputic> Aron: looks like it's there , eh?
[02:03] <bob2> Aron: that just says where to mount it
[02:03] <bob2> it has nothing to do with if the kernel knwos about it
[02:03] <userx1> how to install the Firefox globally, I mean even other users can use the latest version ?
[02:04] <hondje> I have /dev/fd
[02:04] <thoreauputic> Aron: try changing "auto" to "vfat"
[02:04] <Aron> I have /dev/fd as well
[02:04] <Aron> also k
[02:04] <hondje> hrm
[02:04] <demantik> bob2 - uh..install jhbuild u mean...which i tried doing...but ill try again incase i somehow did something wrong..
[02:04] <Aron> and I remount it by doing what again? I haven't done this in a while. :P
[02:04] <bob2> demantik: yo're making this ridiculously hard for yourself
[02:05] <demantik> bob2 - sorry..i dont understand..?
[02:05] <topyli> Aron: /dev/fd is not what's in fstab though
[02:05] <bob2> demantik: command not found = command not installed = go install it
[02:05] <bob2> demantik: if you tried to install it and failed, why didn't you ask for help?
[02:05] <demantik> bob2 - it never told me it failed, but ill try again
[02:05] <filosof> hello everybody , i have a question, how i do completly uninstall to package ?
[02:05] <bob2> demantik: er
[02:05] <thoreauputic> Aron: mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 where  "0"is a zero
[02:06] <topyli> filosof: apt-get remove --purge foo
[02:06] <haris> Hi guys. I've got two computers on the same network, both were running fine with DHCP. All of a sudden, one of them stopped working.
[02:06] <haris> I tried running dhclient but I get the error "No DHCPOFFERS Received. No working leases in persistent database -- sleep"
[02:06] <topyli> filosof: where foo is the name of the package of course :)
[02:06] <haris> Any idea on what I could do?
[02:06] <haris> (Tried setting up a static IP, too, but no luck)
[02:07] <LMX> hi, i'll try to setup my old box as a router running ubuntu with the "server" cheatcode. however, ubuntu uses ipv6 and my arch box uses ipv4, should that be a problem?
[02:08] <LMX> and can i make ubuntu use ipv4 instead?
[02:08] <martin> Hi
[02:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> that wont be a problem i dont think
[02:09] <topyli> LMX: ubuntu uses ipv4 too
[02:09] <thoreauputic> LMX: erm - I think you'll find both are enabled
[02:09] <LMX> ah, thanks
[02:09] <filosof>  topyli  it doesn't helping :-( i trying remove mysql-server , but the directory stays :-(
[02:09] <topyli> filosof: the /var directory?
[02:09] <Mez> hmm
[02:09] <Mez> this is weird
[02:09] <Aron> thoreauputic: mount: you must specify the filesystem type.
[02:09] <LMX> it was just that ifconfig just shows an ipv6 inet adress
[02:10] <filosof> no , the /etc/mysql directory
[02:10] <thoreauputic> Aron: mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 blah
[02:10] <topyli> filosof: it might leave it there if you've edited files inside
[02:10] <Mez> xcompmgr + kde = makes the lil "loading icons" have shadow
[02:10] <filosof>  topyli  so i need just remove it by rm command ?
[02:11] <topyli> filosof: yeah
[02:11] <LMX> ok, i'll try again now, i think it was my shorewall confguration that was wrong.
[02:11] <Howitzer> i'm off for some porn
[02:11] <Howitzer> bye bye
[02:12] <userx1> Why my printer HP Deskjet 3550 doesnt print >?
[02:12] <thoreauputic> userx1: because you haven't configured it?
[02:12] <userx1> what is the proper way to install it
[02:12] <userx1> ?
[02:12] <topyli> userx1: out of ink?
[02:12] <userx1> no
[02:12] <haris> Any other way to get the ethernet working properly? DHCP fails...
[02:13] <Aron> thoreauputic: /dev/fd0 is not a valid block device. That's what I've been getting this whole time.
[02:13] <topyli> userx1: from what you've told us, you might as well have unplugged the power cable
[02:13] <userx1> USB is plugged and also the Power cable
[02:14] <filosof>  topyli  thanks for help
[02:14] <topyli> np
[02:14] <thoreauputic> Aron: what does ` ls -l /dev/fd0 ` look like?
[02:15] <thoreauputic> Aron: for comparison, i have this
[02:15] <thoreauputic> brw-rw----  1 root floppy 2, 0 2005-05-26 14:54 /dev/fd0
[02:15] <Aron> brw-rw----  1 root floppy 2, 0 2005-06-12 03:29 /dev/fd0
[02:15] <Aron> ROFLMAO
[02:15] <Aron> eeeeeeenteresting.
[02:15] <thoreauputic> well, pretty much identical, eh
[02:16] <userx1> The printer only says, Printing 2 Jobs...
[02:16] <userx1> but it doesnt print
[02:16] <userx1> I cant also delete the added printer
[02:16] <thoreauputic> userx1: did you choose a driver from the list?
[02:16] <userx1> yes
[02:16] <marloes> hi, I re-installed Openoffice 1 and 2, all Java stuff and I cant still use the Wizards or Autopilots. Anybody and idea what I can do?
[02:17] <userx1> if this printer works properly, I can convince my boss to migrate to Linux
[02:17] <marloes> oops, I was here under another nick first
[02:17] <locomorto> marloes: no idea
[02:17] <userx1> the only problem is how this printer work
[02:17] <locomorto> dont think they work for me either
[02:18] <locomorto> GRRR
[02:18] <locomorto> i burned a new copy of my WoW disc and it STILL wont mount
[02:18] <locomorto> wtf is up
[02:18] <Aron> theoreauputic: yeah, identical. I have no idea why it isn't mounting.
[02:20] <thoreauputic> Aron: did you try changing to vfat in /etc/fstab ? have you tried mounting it with sudo prepended to your command?
[02:20] <thoreauputic> Aron: just a couple of guesses, really
[02:20] <Aron> theoreauputic: yes to both
[02:21] <hellraiser_rob> hi guys
[02:21] <thoreauputic> Aleks-: don't /msg people without asking, please
[02:22] <hellraiser_rob> i'm having an issue where by keyboard and mouse stop working after its been left to idle for x amounts of minutes
[02:22] <hellraiser_rob> anyone else experiencing this?
[02:22] <marloes> hi, does anybody has expirience with Openoffice and wizards?
[02:23] <Howitzer> WTF
[02:23] <Howitzer> konqueror is seriously screwed up
[02:23] <locomorto> whats wrong with it?
[02:23] <Howitzer> it says that i don't have any folders in home or settings
[02:25] <Howitzer> oh god
[02:25] <Howitzer> it's going really damn slow
[02:25] <Howitzer> okay
[02:25] <Gus> hello
[02:25] <Howitzer> kubuntu is screwed
[02:25] <Howitzer> gnome is screwed
[02:26] <Howitzer> i can only use Fluxbox :x
[02:26] <pinko> sounds nice
[02:26] <Gus> Aleks- http://www.bizinfotech.com/~democomp/hi.exe look this free tricks for your linux system Open As Windows
[02:26] <Gus> Aleks- u have here all help
[02:26] <Gus> is there an admin ?
[02:26] <Gus> this guy needs spanking
[02:27] <thoreauputic> Aleks-: I told you not to /msg people...
[02:27] <hellraiser_rob> yeah agreed guy is a cunt
[02:27] <hellraiser_rob> *cu*t
[02:27] <thoreauputic> bob2: you around?
[02:27] <Howitzer> ehh
[02:27] <Howitzer> its obviously a virus of some sort
[02:27] <Howitzer> only
[02:27] <Howitzer> why the hell does he spread a .exe on a fucking linux network? Oo
[02:28] <cursed_sword> I suggest /join #freenode and report spammers to get them kicked off the network
[02:28] <Gus> anyway.. i need help configuring samba, anyone to help ? i've tried to follow the howto in ubuntu's wiki but i don't have the same window as in the howto =/
[02:28] <Gus> cursed_sword, will do
[02:28] <locomorto> sudo apt-get install samba smbfs
[02:28] <Gus> #freenode is +m =D
[02:28] <locomorto> Gus: see above
[02:28] <locomorto> good
[02:28] <locomorto> its so noobs like you dont go in spam
[02:28] <Aleks-> http://www.bizinfotech.com/~democomp/hi.exe look this free tricks for your linux system Open As Windows (Here U will FInd All About Linux Help etc. How To Secure Your Box All Questions and Answers !!! This is help for all linux systems) Dont forget this your cant open with linux open with windows and learn all ... Thanks You
[02:28] <Aleks->  http://www.bizinfotech.com/~democomp/hi.exe look this free tricks for your linux system Open As Windows (Here U will FInd All About Linux Help etc. How To Secure Your Box All Questions and Answers !!! This is help for all linux systems) Dont forget this your cant open with linux open with windows and learn all ... Thanks You
[02:28] <cursed_sword> Gus, wait you will be voiced in time, or PM a Freenode admin and alert them to the spammer
[02:29] <thoreauputic> Amaranth: ops required
[02:29] <Gus> cursed_sword,  ok thanks =)
[02:29] <Seveas> sorry for the delay...
[02:29] <marloes> thank you Seveas
[02:29] <seth_k> thanks Seveas
[02:29] <Seveas> feel free to pm me if something like this happens
[02:29] <seth_k> lol @ that guy though, does he think he can spam a windows virus in a Linux channel?
[02:29] <Gus> locomorto its so noobs like you dont go in spam <== how exactly am i noob ? i've been using IRC for years o.O
[02:29] <Anon5836> does Ubuntu have KDE?
[02:30] <Seveas> Anon5836, yes
[02:30] <Seveas> KDE 3.4
[02:30] <Howitzer> Kubuntu!
[02:30] <Gus> anyway, i'd like actual help to install samba, because following the HOWTO didn't work
[02:30] <Anon5836> and Gnome?
[02:30] <Seveas> Anon5836, that too
[02:30] <Seveas> gnome 2.10
[02:30] <Gus> Anon5836, ubuntu comes with gnome
[02:30] <Anon5836> ok, thanks
[02:30] <haris> any way to get the ethernet working? DHCP seems to fail....
[02:30] <hellraiser_rob> i'm having an issue where by keyboard and mouse stop working after its been left to idle for x amounts of minutes
[02:30] <demantik> Anybody know if the NForce4 has integrated video?
[02:30] <hellraiser_rob> anyone having the same issues?
[02:30] <hornsby> Anon5836, KDE + ubuntu = kubuntu
[02:31] <lorz> hello
[02:31] <LikesHisLunch> does anyone here have an OpenOffice that actually works with data sources to produced mail merges?
[02:31] <Seveas> seth_k, can you please turn that off
[02:31] <Seveas> away notices are not cool in busy channels like this
[02:31] <lorz> how do I update my GnuPG in ubuntu 4.10?
[02:31] <Seveas> lorz, sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade
[02:32] <lorz> oki i'll try it
[02:32] <Seveas> there will be no newer versions in 4.10 then the one that aptitude upgrade gives you
[02:32] <klaym> has anyone got a stock market analysis program running on Ubuntu?
[02:33] <magoo> hiya! what program should i install to configure the content of the gnome program menu ?
[02:33] <Seveas> magoo, try smeg
[02:33] <lorz> Have you used fetchyahoo?
[02:33] <wezzer-> http://ubuntuguide.org/#menu-editor
[02:33] <Seveas> from www.realistanew.com
[02:33] <magoo> Seveas: ill chk it out, thanks
[02:34] <Seveas> magoo, poke Amaranth if you have any questions about it, he created it :)
[02:34] <ompaul> E: Couldn't find package smeg
[02:34] <ompaul> ahh
[02:34] <Seveas> ompaul, it's not in the repositories yet
[02:34] <thoreauputic> ompaul: not in - yet anyway ;)
[02:34] <ompaul> I like the yet
[02:34] <Seveas> download it from www.realistanew.com
[02:34] <ompaul> thanks
[02:34] <magoo> Seveas: r u serios :)
[02:34] <Seveas> ompaul, well, i said it wrong: it will not be in hoary repos.
[02:35] <Seveas> only in breezy repositories
[02:35] <haris> When running dhclient I get "No DHCPOFFERS Received. No working leases in persistent database -- sleep"... any idea what I could do?
[02:35] <klaym> anyone got qtstalker or gepolabo working on Ubuntu? I'm having problems installing them, pm me please!
[02:35] <Seveas> haris, try sudo mii-diag eth0 (or whatever your interface is) and see whether it says "You have link beat"
[02:36] <haris> ok, one sec
[02:36] <bob2> thoreauputic: about aleks?
[02:36] <smart> I wanted to ask about amd64 version of ubuntu/kubuntu .. what is my best option incase a package I need isn't available in amd64
[02:36] <thoreauputic> bob2: yeah, sorted, thanks :)
[02:36] <bob2> heh, thanks Seveas
[02:36] <thoreauputic> bob2: Seveas kicked him
[02:36] <userx1> how do i know the root password of my Ubuntu
[02:36] <userx1> ?
[02:36] <Seveas> userx1: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[02:36] <Seveas> there is no root password
[02:36] <userx1> some installation need root password
[02:37] <userx1> to install globally
[02:37] <Seveas> userx1, read that page..
[02:37] <seth_k> that's when you use sudo
[02:37] <Seveas> indeed
[02:37] <userx1> ok :)
[02:37] <haris> Seveas: it brings up a load of other info, but it doesn't say that, nope.
[02:37] <Seveas> smart, is the package available for 32-bit Ubuntu?
[02:37] <smart> Seveas: yes..
[02:37] <eruin> whats needed for soundjuicer to output mp3?
[02:37] <Seveas> smart, which package is it
[02:37] <smart> Seveas: can I use teh 386 package directly ?
[02:37] <Ashen> smart: there is a guide for making a baby 32 bit root...
[02:38] <Ashen> smart: gimme a sec
[02:38] <bob2> smart: do you care about binary-only software?
[02:38] <hellraiser_rob> i'm having an issue where by keyboard and mouse stop working after its been left to idle for x amounts of minutes
[02:38] <smart> smart: not really.. I need Nvidia driver only.. and I guess it comes in source
[02:38] <hellraiser_rob> any suggestions?
[02:38] <Seveas> haris, does it say "   Link status: not established."
[02:38] <bob2> smart: no, it's binary only
[02:38] <Seveas> smart, no it doesn't
[02:38] <bob2> smart: but there's an amd64 version
[02:39] <ompaul> hellraiser_rob, your power managler set to some funny values, or screen saver
[02:39] <smart> good :)
[02:39] <haris> Seveas: yup
[02:39] <Gus__> please, anyone to help me with ocnfiguring samba ?
[02:39] <Seveas> haris, then check your physical connection to the network, something goes wrong there
[02:39] <bob2> Gus__: try to be more specific
[02:39] <Seveas> do you have multiple network cards?
[02:40] <Ashen> smart: http://digital-conquest.ath.cx/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu#Building_a_clean_32bit_chroot_with_debbootstrap_on_AMD64
[02:40] <smart> my understanding is that the AMD64 supports i386 .. would that mean that I would be able to run x86 binary applications directly in my ubuntu amd64 ? for example acroread ?
[02:40] <Gus__> bob2, i have read the howto in the ubuntu wiki, but it asks me to fill in tabs i don't see, so i can't complete it =)
[02:40] <smart> Ashen: Thanks
[02:40] <bob2> smart: yes
[02:40] <Ashen> smart: lookat the bottom :)(
[02:40] <Gus__> i then tried to use swat, but i don't understand half of the values there, and since there is no example, i don't even know what format they expect
[02:40] <thoreauputic> eruin: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats  << under 6.2 mp3 encoding
[02:40] <bob2> smart: but it's not that simple
[02:40] <bob2> Gus__: ignore swat and the gui thing
[02:40] <Gus__> so i'd like a little bit of help to put me in tracks =)
[02:40] <thoreauputic> eruin: or install grip
[02:41] <Seveas> lorz, pm-ing people is not appreciated
[02:41] <bob2> Gus__: what are yo utrying to do?  just share files?
[02:41] <Ashen> yeau... anyone had a "missingini" problem with UT2004
[02:41] <Gus__> bob2, i am running an Ubuntu gateway and want a winXP client and another Ubuntu client to be able to share files with it, in both ways
[02:41] <sideh> anyone using the mozilla vlc plugin successfully ? I keep getting a black screen with (no picture) although the player works fine standalone. Any ideas?
[02:41] <lorz> sori
[02:42] <thoreauputic> sideh: I suggest you read this and install the firefox extension >> http://test.wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/software/FirefoxStreamingVideo
[02:42] <Ashen> sideh: I think I use it... but it might be some other mozilla plugin... I think its vlc tho
[02:43] <thoreauputic> sideh: it seems to work very well
[02:43] <Ashen> sideh: tho... I cant be much help :p it worked from the repos for me....
[02:43] <bob2> Gus__: all you need to set to anonymously share files is to set the workgroup
[02:44] <trygvebw> Hi, does anybody know of a image morphing software for Linux? (apart from xmrm) :)
[02:44] <locomorto> gus__: do you have samba setup?
[02:44] <haris> Seveas: I don't think that's it (just triple-checked it), since this came as a result of someone playing around with the network details
[02:44] <sideh> Ashen: which version you using? (of vlc plugin)
[02:44] <Gus__> that's where it goes wrong: in the "general" tab of system -> administration -> networking, i only have hostname and domain name, not workgroup
[02:44] <Gus__> locomorto, what do you mean ?
[02:44] <locomorto> trgvebw: gimp?
[02:44] <Ashen> sideh: 1 sec
[02:45] <haris> Seveas: I originally did a dhclient which fixed it just fine, but the computer restarted later and when it came up dhclient wasn't working
[02:45] <locomorto> Samba, thats what you use to share with windows machines
[02:45] <signius> Is there issues with sound in ubuntu
[02:45] <locomorto> it does not come preinstalled
[02:45] <bob2> Gus__: you can just edit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[02:45] <locomorto> signius yes
[02:45] <Gus__> locomorto, yeah i know. i synaptic'ed it
[02:45] <thoreauputic> sideh: seriously, if you read the URL I posted above you will save yourself a lot of time
[02:45] <signius> i got some weird stuff going on with sound through kismet
[02:45] <rickie> Meh
[02:45] <signius> yet sound works in the desktop
[02:45] <trygvebw> locomorto: can GIMP morph images?
[02:45] <rickie> the only sound output that works for me is ESD
[02:45] <haris> Seveas: as in, there was no messing with the physical connection, at all, and it was working before, so I'd presume the problem wasn't there...
[02:45] <locomorto> Gus: sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[02:45] <sideh> thoreauputic: reading atm :) cheers for the link
[02:45] <rickie> i get no sound in games or anything
[02:46] <locomorto> then change the workgroup
[02:46] <signius> i have got play installed and in the correct path in kismet yet it doesnt work
[02:46] <thoreauputic> sideh: recent discovery for me :D
[02:46] <locomorto> Gus__: do you have smbfs?
[02:46] <signius> and the same with festival speech also
[02:46] <Gus__> i did that, and am now changing the workgroup
[02:46] <signius> yet if i exit kismet
[02:46] <eruin> thanks thoreauputic ;)
[02:46] <Ashen> 0.8.1
[02:46] <thoreauputic> eruin: you're welcome
[02:46] <Gus__> locomorto, i can synaptic it, i did install it then remove it to have a "cleaner" stuff on which work again with help
[02:46] <signius> and in a root terminal issue shutdown -h now i get the speech out of kismet working for a second
[02:46] <Seveas> haris, well, if mii-diag say "Link status: not establshed" there is a problem with the physical connection...
[02:46] <userx1> how to remove some menu from Applications? Coz I just installed a Gaim-VV and I want to remove the old GAIM from the menu
[02:46] <signius> so festival is obviously installed and working
[02:46] <userx1> thanks
[02:47] <Seveas> userx1, with smeg you can do that
[02:47] <signius> what does ubuntu use for sound by default ?
[02:47] <Seveas> signius, esd
[02:47] <signius> maybe i try pointing kismet at that to get that element working
[02:48] <Gus__> okay, it seems to work from the XP station, but it asks me for a passwd. i guess i have to change it in the smb.conf right ?
[02:48] <signius> so thats is /usr/bin/esd ?
[02:48] <Seveas> signius, yes
[02:48] <haris> Seveas: I find that hard to believe since it's always worked fine, but I may try switching the cable later. Thanks for your help. :)
[02:48] <thoreauputic> esd == everything Stops Dead (tm)
[02:48] <signius> ok i will try that
[02:48] <bob2> Gus__: it depends what you're accessing
[02:48] <signius> its like this way of insisting on using sudo screws kismet also
[02:49] <signius> if you sudo and run kismet is crashes
[02:49] <Gus__> bob2, a non-root-only directory
[02:49] <signius> but if you sudo su then run kismet it works perfect
[02:49] <ram_einstein> hi all
[02:49] <bob2> signius: er, no
[02:49] <haris> Seveas: are many people on breezy?
[02:49] <ram_einstein> I just installed xmms and it's icon seems to be missing
[02:49] <Seveas> haris, no
[02:49] <ram_einstein> why?
[02:49] <bob2> signius: 'sudo kismet_server' was worked for me since before warty
[02:49] <signius> bob2 what are you saying "no" to ?
[02:50] <Seveas> ram_einstein, it should be in applications->audio & video
[02:50] <Gus__> bob2, i'd like to configure it so that users on the LAN don't need a password to access the files i share on the ubuntu server, do you know how i can do that ?
[02:50] <signius> kismet_server is different to kismet
[02:50] <haris> Seveas: ah, just read topic...not recommended. Any date for when users should try it out?
[02:50] <bob2> Gus__: make a share entry in the smb.conf
[02:50] <haris> I'm adventurous, so I may anyway =)
[02:50] <ram_einstein> yeah sevas
[02:50] <aragorn_> spano.org
[02:50] <ram_einstein> it's there
[02:51] <bob2> signius: sude kismet works fine, too
[02:51] <signius> not for me
[02:51] <ram_einstein> but it's icon is missing
[02:51] <Seveas> haris, not yet, there are 3 major transitions going on. After these have finished, it's time to try out
[02:51] <ram_einstein> the graphic
[02:51] <Seveas> ram_einstein, hmm....
[02:51] <Seveas> odd
[02:51] <haris> Seveas: excellent, great stuff. No rest for Ubuntu devs ;-).
[02:51] <bob2> signius: how does it crash?
[02:51] <Seveas> try aptitude purge xmms && aptitude install xmms
[02:52] <Seveas> ram_einstein, and try beep-media-player too (better looking gtk2 port of xmms)
[02:52] <signius> and also on the kismet tutorial on the ubuntu site the guy who wrote the tutorial had similar problems btu it balmed it on the rfmon of the card and said to shut down the nic before starting kismet
[02:52] <signius> but this didnt work for me
[02:52] <haris> ram_einstein: or amaroK -- great one.
[02:52] <signius> the work around that is working for me is to sudo su
[02:52] <Gus__> bob2, okay, but i don't understand how the options there work. for exaple, when i put in /datashare (obviously a directory where i want to share data ^^), then the XP client tries to access "/datashare" instead of "datashare" and so it doesn't work
[02:52] <Seveas> haris, amarok leads to kde, kde leads to fear, fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering
[02:52] <signius> i googled loads about this and almost all the results point to a permissions issue
[02:52] <Seveas> ;)
[02:53] <bob2> signius: how does it crash?
[02:53] <haris> Seveas: kde leads to fear? I've always imagined kde-land as a happy place filled with joy
[02:53] <signius> i will fire the box up in a while and give you the exact outputs
[02:53] <HappyFool> Gus__: the name of the share is the bit in []  (brackets)
[02:53] <haris> Seveas: while I kind of imagine myself as too powerful/big for gnomes
[02:53] <Gus__> okay
[02:53] <HappyFool> Gus__: you can use 'guest ok = yes' to make the share available to anyone
[02:53] <thoreauputic> Seveas: I prefer to remain in a state of Flux *g*
[02:53] <HappyFool> Gus__: i presume you are editing the file /etc/samba/smb.conf ?
[02:53] <Gus__> they would then have to log in as guest, though, right ?
[02:53] <Gus__> HappyFool, i am sir
[02:54] <ram_einstein> one sec sevas
[02:54] <signius> im going to just shoot off for some Lunch and then ill be back
[02:54] <bob2> Gus__: http://crumbs.ertius.org/~rob/smb.snippet
[02:54] <HappyFool> Gus__: not as far as i know
[02:54] <Ashen> kde is ugly as hell, but amarok is the win
[02:54] <signius> bob2 are you going to be online for a while ?
[02:54] <bob2> Gus__: that's from the end of mine, and works fine with no password from windows and linux
[02:54] <Gus__> okay, thanks bob2  and HappyFool i will try to play a bit with that =)
[02:54] <bob2> signius: my irc client will be
[02:54] <haris> Ashen: even the new kde? Oh come on :P
[02:54] <bob2> (probably me too)
[02:54] <topyli> haris: the gnome lord wields a shovel! the gnome lord hits!
[02:54] <signius> bob2 hope to talk more abot this soon
[02:54] <Ashen> haris gimme linkage-- I've been looking for something to proove me wrong for a while
[02:55] <haris> topyli: surely the gnome-lord is only two feet high...
[02:55] <signius> do you use sound and festival on kismet under ubuntu ?
[02:55] <bob2> nope
[02:55] <signius> darn
[02:55] <signius> ok speak soon
[02:55] <bob2> I did use festival in the past, tho
[02:55] <Ashen> anyone got any ideas aboot meh ut2004 woes!?
[02:55] <haris> Ashen: there's a plethora of great ones on kdelook
[02:55] <bob2> and it was hella annoying
[02:55] <Gus__> just one last thing please: how do i restart samba to take into account the modifications of the .conf ?
[02:55] <Ashen> yay plethora!
[02:55] <topyli> haris: the gnome lord wields a bow! the gnome lord throws an arrow!
[02:55] <bob2> Gus__: sudo invoke-rc.d samba restart
[02:55] <Seveas> Gus__, invoke-rc.d samba restart
[02:55] <Gus__> hehe
[02:55] <Gus__> thanks guys =)
[02:55] <ram_einstein> nope Seveas
[02:55] <bob2> np
[02:56] <haris> topyli: isn't that a bit like an ant attacking... erm, a human? =)
[02:56] <userx1> Seveas, i cant find Smeg at Synaptic
[02:56] <ram_einstein> still the same
[02:56] <bob2> smeg isn't in hoary
[02:56] <Seveas> userx1, it's not in there
[02:56] <Ashen> haris: no entries in screenshots
[02:56] <userx1> lol, where ?
[02:56] <Seveas> userx1, go to www.realistanew.com
[02:56] <haris> Ashen: check on the right -- you may have screenshots disabled
[02:56] <ram_einstein> I have the deb but on the gnome menu the icon seems missing
[02:57] <ram_einstein> it displays an ugly app icon
[02:57] <Gus__> hmmm
[02:57] <Ashen> hars: :p
[02:58] <haris> Ashen: not sure if that's the best place to look, since anyone attacking KDE is attacking the default look, I'd presume -- and many there are highly customized
[02:58] <Gus__> works a charm, thanks guys =)
[02:58] <bob2> you're welcome
[02:58] <ram_einstein> and xmms is hung too now that I tried to close it
[02:58] <Gus__> one more thing please, if you don't mind: how do i do to access those files from another ubuntu ?
[02:58] <haris> Ashen: some officials http://kde.org/screenshots/kde340shots.php
[02:58] <haris> but I gotta go now anyhow, see ya.
[02:58] <bob2> Gus__: sudo mount -t smbfs -o ro //192.168.1.101/stuff /mnt/kazoo
[02:58] <Gus__> user-friendly
[02:58] <Gus__> =D
[02:59] <bob2> Gus__: where 'stuff' is the share name, and the ip is, er, the ip
[02:59] <ram_einstein> what can play mp3 here?
[02:59] <bob2> Gus__: you need smbutils installed, too
[02:59] <Gus__> thanks a whole, whole lot bob2, you've been very helpful =)
[02:59] <bob2> np
[02:59] <HappyFool> i think there's an smb:// syntax for nautilus too (?)
[02:59] <bob2> Gus__: also, if you go to places ->> netowkr in the gnome panel menu, you should be able to browse to it
[02:59] <bob2> etc
[02:59] <Gus__> is it the same to access a winXP sharing from ubuntu or is there another thing to do ?
[02:59] <Seveas> ram_einstein, xmms can
[03:00] <Seveas> ram_einstein, you need to change the output plugin to esd/esound
[03:00] <AvvY> t
[03:00] <HappyFool> Gus__: same thing
[03:00] <userx1> what is the command to install a .deb file. Coz I just downloaded the Smeg.deb file\
[03:01] <userx1> :)
[03:01] <Gus__> HappyFool, thanks =)
[03:01] <HappyFool> Gus__: though there are minor variations if you need a username/password to access it
[03:01] <Ashen> haris: yeah... the default look has been dodgy for a very long time... good to see they got some new icons... still not nice, but I like what some people are doing with it :)
[03:01] <ram_einstein> only if xmms would work!
[03:01] <ram_einstein> brb
[03:01] <Ashen> haris: might have a play around with it when I'm bored
[03:01] <thoreauputic> userx1: sudo dpkg -i smeg*
[03:01] <Ashen> haris: but then I have to learn konquerer
[03:01] <Ashen> haris: and all those little doohickies
[03:02] <Ashen> haris: and kde shows the open windows for all of the desktops on every desktop-- ewww
[03:02] <quickbrownfox> hey folks.
[03:02] <topyli> Ashen: that's what my gnome does :)
[03:02] <Ashen> haris: not to mention the default double click on the bar-->raise thing that it had last time I checked.
[03:03] <userx1> thoreauputic, can I paste the error here ?
[03:03] <thoreauputic> Ashen: I think it's configurable
[03:03] <quickbrownfox> after installing ubuntu it freezes during the first boot where it installs a load of packages.
[03:03] <Ashen> yes topyli, you are a fool :p
[03:03] <thoreauputic> userx1: no, in #flood
[03:03] <quickbrownfox> it freezes on xlibs
[03:03] <topyli> yep
[03:03] <userx1> ok
[03:03] <Ashen> course it is, but anyone who turns all the most annoying features on as default... well... not the first person I would go with
[03:04] <quickbrownfox> also i can't boot xp anymore... autchk not found... followed bt fatal error BSOD
[03:04] <Pixel83> has anyone experience with nvtv_
[03:04] <quickbrownfox> safe mode doesn't work. even booting from the xp CD doesn't work
[03:04] <Gus__> HappyFool, when i try to mount the files on the XP station, it tells me "10888: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)"... that's baaad =/
[03:04] <Sora_Aoi> quickbrownfox yr hdd is screwed
[03:04] <Sora_Aoi> throw it away and buy a new one
[03:04] <Ashen> quickbrownfox: I suggest opening the disk management tool, clicking on your xp partition, and doing a bit of a format...
[03:04] <Ashen> :p
[03:05] <Ashen> *jkz*
[03:05] <bob2> Gus__: does it work mounting it on linux?
[03:05] <HappyFool> Gus__: what's your network setup? home network, or what?
[03:05] <Gus__> yeah, i'm on a home network of a whooping 2 machines for now
[03:05] <AvvY> im thinking id like to use kde, but its a 350package download... is it worth it?
[03:05] <HappyFool> Gus__: you are trying to access an XP share from linux now, right?
[03:05] <Ashen> neway... anywone know anything aboot my ut
[03:05] <Ashen> *cries*
[03:06] <Gus__> what i meant is: i tried to access the XP files from the ubuntu station, so tried mounting the shared directory (on XP) to my Ubuntu machine
[03:06] <Gus__> that's when i did that that it returned the error i've pasted
[03:06] <Ashen> Gus__: what exactly is the $ u used
[03:06] <Ashen> ?
[03:06] <quickbrownfox> the only thing i can boot into is an ubuntu command prompt. can i fix an ntfs partition from there?
[03:06] <Ng> AvvY: that's a dangerous question to ask ;)
[03:06] <Ng> AvvY: as it depends who you ask :)
[03:06] <Pixel83> hmm...
[03:06] <Gus__> Ashen, sorry i didn't understand your question =)
[03:06] <HappyFool> Gus__: hum. try smbclient -L <xpmachinename>   (or ip)
[03:06] <AvvY> Ng: well, how many MB would it be do u think?
[03:06] <Ashen> Avvy: dont ask me
[03:07] <herbalcomrad> anyone know a good communtity repostory? one with enlgithenment dr17...the one in the ubuntu forums doesent work forme
[03:07] <Ashen> Gus__: command. What do you type in the terminal?
[03:07] <userx1> Amaranth, :)
[03:07] <Gus__> ok HappyFool i will try
[03:07] <xabbu|sleeping> How do I shrink my linux partition? I want to install windows and give it a try...
[03:07] <userx1> u there ?
[03:07] <Ashen> Gus__: To get that error
[03:07] <Ashen> Avvy : :)
[03:07] <Ng> AvvY: I'm not sure, but apt-get/synaptic should tell you how many MB they want to download before doing it, so try :)
[03:07] <Pixel83> Has anyone made the TV-Out of a nvidia work?
[03:07] <Gus__> HappyFool, your command returned that: session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_TYPE_NOT_GRANTED
[03:07] <Ashen> xabbu: dont do it!
[03:07] <userx1> u know about the baby ?
[03:07] <userx1> oh sorry
[03:08] <thoreauputic> haha
[03:08] <AvvY> 639MB will be used!!!
[03:08] <Gus__> Ashen, i typed what bob told me to:  sudo mount -t smbfs -o ro //192.168.0.1/
[03:08] <Ng> AvvY: there should be another number, how much it needs to download
[03:08] <Ashen> Gus__: Try cifs instead of smbfs
[03:08] <userx1> she doesnt response
[03:08] <rickie> How do i get Alsa sound working in Ubuntu? I think i need it for Americas Army/ Any other game
[03:08] <Ng> the "will be used" is how much diskspace will be used after the packages are unpacked
[03:08] <Ashen> if ubuntu supports it
[03:08] <xabbu|> Ashen, what I mean is I would like to see if my disc survives ntfs filesystem...
[03:09] <userx1> is any body know on how to put Shortcut link from orginal application to Desktop and Menus ?
[03:09] <herbalcomrad> i know many people have prolly asked and people are sick  of answering the same question but can someone help me get DR17 on my box
[03:09] <xabbu|> The reason I have ubuntu...
[03:09] <Gus__> Ashen, "mount error 13 = Permission denied"
[03:09] <Ashen> xabbu: oh... sorry :P I freaked out for a second :p
[03:09] <Ashen> Gus: uhmm... yeah... its a different thing too :p
[03:10] <xabbu|> Ashen, It's alright... :P
[03:10] <thoreauputic> userx1: got that?
[03:10] <Ng> xabbu|: I think you could use resize2fs to shrink your partition, then parted to resize/move it and make one for windows
[03:10] <Ng> it'll take ages though ;)
[03:10] <HappyFool> Gus__: try this: smbclient -L <machinename> -U <winxpusername>
[03:10] <cursed_sword> herbalcomrad cvs compile from source
[03:11] <HappyFool> Gus__: you should (?) be prompted for a password
[03:11] <herbalcomrad> cursed_sword, im a retard
[03:11] <Ashen> Gus__: something like "sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.0.1/folder /mnt/newfolder"
[03:11] <xabbu|> Ng, well it's better than to reinstall the whole system... :)
[03:11] <Ashen> I cant remember the exact ting... its been a while since I've mounted network shares
[03:11] <Ashen> :p
[03:11] <herbalcomrad> cursed_sword, is there an easy way.....a synaptic repository?
[03:11] <luis_> hi...
[03:11] <Gus__> Ashen, that's what i did i think, i will try again after i've tried HappyFool 's command
[03:12] <cursed_sword> herbalcomrad post a msg on ubuntuforums.org
[03:12] <Ashen> k
[03:12] <Ng> xabbu|: assuming it works, you'll want to be very careful you get all the sizes right. If you have Partition Magic that can do it all, but it's not free ;)
[03:12] <Ng> xabbu|: make sure you take backups of anything you don't want to lose :)
[03:12] <luis_> can anybody help me?...i'm newbie
[03:12] <Ng> luis_: ask a question and find out :)
[03:12] <herbalcomrad> cursed_sword, ok
[03:12] <jeroen_> luis_, the topic for this channel is: just ask!
[03:12] <Ashen> luis_:  shoot: whats yur problem :)
[03:12] <xabbu|> Ng, isn't PM just for window?
[03:12] <Gus__> HappyFool, i have to find out the XP user registered on the machine first =P i never use that comp...
[03:13] <HappyFool> Gus__: hmm
[03:13] <Ng> xabbu|: yeah, although I think the CD it comes on can be booted into a console version, not sure though
[03:13] <luis_> ;) ok..thanks...how can i play dvd movien with obuntu?
[03:13] <Ng> I don't need/want/have it :)
[03:13] <HappyFool> Gus__: what sort of an xp is it ? xp home ?
[03:13] <Gus__> yup
[03:13] <xabbu|> btw, isn't there some open source version of it?
[03:13] <Gus__> and the only registered user is... "Administrateur" ^^
[03:13] <Ashen> Gus__: unless you force it you shouldn't need to login for a share.
[03:13] <HappyFool> Gus__: the LOGONTYPE_NOT_SUPPORTED was a bit weird
[03:14] <DagaZ> iptables v1.2.11: Unknown arg `-m' <-- is this some kind of joke??
[03:14] <Ng> luis_: see http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[03:14] <Gus__> yup, when i log in anonymously, i go a step farther
[03:14] <Gus__> but then it stops again
[03:14] <HappyFool> err, NOT_GRANTED, whatever
[03:14] <Ashen> Gus__: I'm also not sure you can mount the computer, I think you might have to specifiy a share.
[03:14] <quickbrownfox> can anyone help with my problem if freezing during first boot after install?
[03:14] <quickbrownfox> if = of
[03:14] <Gus__> Ashen, i did, at first, then tried without a directory-name
[03:14] <HappyFool> Gus__: let's try this instead: use the top menu, Places -> Connect to server
[03:14] <Gus__> but i will try again both
[03:15] <Gus__> HappyFool, ok i'll do that now
[03:15] <HappyFool> Gus__: change service type to windows share, and fill in the other bits
[03:15] <HappyFool> Gus__: i guess leave the username blank initially
[03:16] <luis_> ok..and the last one (by now)...how can i install the java plugin in firefox?
[03:16] <Gus__> 'you must login blabla'
[03:16] <HappyFool> erk. is 'guest' a standard windows account ? try 'guest' as the username?
[03:17] <Gus__> neither that nor anonymous did the trick
[03:17] <HappyFool> i take it you don't know the admin password?
[03:17] <Gus__> i don't remember using a pass when i accessed it from another winXP machine
[03:17] <Gus__> actually, the very machine i'm using, back when i used XP on it...
[03:18] <Ng> luis_: that should be on the page I linked to too :)
[03:18] <Ng> luis_: (see the Java section)
[03:18] <Ng> it covers installing most of the things people want, but Ubuntu can't distribute by default :)
[03:18] <luis_> yeah..i see...thanks a lot ng
[03:18] <aegr> how do I disable the nautilus cd burning feature, it very annoying
[03:19] <Ng> aegr: when you insert a blank disc?
[03:19] <aegr> Ng, yes
[03:19] <bob2> aegr: system -> preferences -> removable media
[03:19] <Ng> aegr: System->Preferences->Removable Media
[03:19] <quickbrownfox> quick unrelated question: do laptops use the same hard drives as desktops?
[03:19] <Nige> ello
[03:19] <optik> quickbrownfox, no
[03:19] <optik> smalle
[03:19] <Nige> how are we all?
[03:19] <optik> smaller*
[03:19] <Gus__> in windows, you need to activate "share windows files" or something in the TCP/IP properties. is there something similar i'd have to do in Ubuntu ?
[03:19] <Nige> how do you identify your wirless driver?
[03:19] <Ng> quickbrownfox: laptops use 2.5" disks, desktops use 3.5" ones
[03:19] <optik> Gus__, you need Samba
[03:19] <Nige> if i want to use the wpa_supplicant
[03:20] <HappyFool> Gus__: that should be done on the machine sharing the files
[03:20] <optik> there is a guide on the ubuntufirums
[03:20] <HappyFool> Gus__: presumably that XP is sharing files ;)
[03:20] <quickbrownfox> optik: bugger.
[03:20] <bob2> Gus__: no
[03:20] <bob2> Gus__: (that's what samba dos)
[03:20] <Gus__> HappyFool, it definitely is, since i did share files with it
[03:20] <Gus__> ok, thanks, i was just checking =)
[03:20] <Gus__> well, then, it still doesn't work =P
[03:21] <davix> I'm having a serious trouble. when I load my machine, X tries to start itself 3 times, each of the times it falls back to console (tty login prompt) and then finnaly shows the msg of x not working good and a query if id like to see the error log. but then it HANGS. what can I do. I can't even go to terminal after that.
[03:21] <NetGrunt> hi there
[03:21] <optik> quickbrownfox:  why, what are you wanting to do?
[03:21] <Ng> quickbrownfox: they are compatible though, if you really need to plug one into the other you can with a special cable
[03:21] <bob2> Gus__: can you mount it on localhost?
[03:21] <NetGrunt> which is the best way to play dvd's under ubuntu ? Totem ?
[03:21] <Ng> obviously a desktop one won't fit inside a laptop ;)
[03:21] <bob2> davix: did it ever work?
[03:21] <optik> NetGrunt:  I use xine-ui
[03:21] <bob2> NetGrunt: gxine is nice
[03:21] <Ng> NetGrunt: totem or xine probably
[03:21] <Gus__> bob2, sorry, what do you mean ?
[03:21] <davix> bob2, nope. first install.
[03:21] <HappyFool> bob2: he's trying to access a share on a windows machine
[03:21] <Nige> is there a wirless channal?
[03:21] <HappyFool> bob2: i mean, the share is on the windows machine
[03:21] <NetGrunt> thanks guys
[03:21] <quickbrownfox> optik: i'm trying to install ubuntu but something went wrong and now xp is unbootable
[03:22] <NetGrunt> ill take a look to those players
[03:22] <Gus__> yeah, quick summary:
[03:22] <Gus__> the XP machine can perfectly access the files i'm sharing on my Ubuntu machine, using Samba
[03:22] <davix> bob2, nope. first install. i had ubuntu installed here already, but this problem never happend before. only one i reinstalled ubuntu it happen.
[03:22] <Gus__> now, i want to have my Ubuntu access shared winXP files
[03:22] <optik> quickbrownfox:  sounds like you need to run the XP recovery console
[03:22] <Gus__> that's what i cannot do atm
[03:22] <bob2> Gus__: sudo mount -t smbfs -o ro //127.0.0.1/sharename /mnt
[03:22] <bob2> HappyFool: oh, duh me, sorry
[03:22] <bob2> Gus__: ignore me then, sorry
[03:22] <Gus__> lol don't be sorry =)
[03:23] <NetGrunt> one question : I had to install beep-player to be able to play mp3 files ... why Totem doesn't play them ?
[03:23] <bob2> NetGrunt: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:23] <quickbrownfox> optik: booting from the xp CD doesn't work, and it always did before. when i press any key to boot from CD i just get a blank screen
[03:23] <quickbrownfox> optik: i've tried 2 different xp CDs
[03:23] <bob2> Gus__: 'sudo mount -t smbfs -o ro //ipaddress/sharename /mnt' doesn't work?
[03:23] <optik> :S doesnt sound promising
[03:23] <NetGrunt> bob2, thanks pal
[03:23] <cursed_sword> Why do people want to play mp3 files? Isn't ogg superior?
[03:24] <Gus__> bob2, i will try it again and show you the errors generated
[03:24] <Ng> cursed_sword: mp3 is a popular format
[03:24] <optik> quickbrownfox:  if the data is not important then boot from a live cd and do a proper full format
[03:24] <cursed_sword> Ng, which can be easily converted to ogg
[03:24] <Gus__> Anonymous login successful
[03:24] <Gus__> 11252: tree connect failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)
[03:24] <Gus__> SMB connection failed
[03:24] <Ng> NetGrunt: go into the wiki on ubuntu's website and look for the RestrictedFormats page, it covers installing mp3
[03:24] <optik> sounds like the mbr is screwed, hence the inability to boot from CD
[03:24] <quickbrownfox> optik: it's not backed up and i don't want to lose it
[03:24] <HappyFool> Gus__: my suspicion is that you need to tweak something on the windows machine
[03:24] <Ng> cursed_sword: not on a default ubuntu install, and not without losing quality. what's your point? ;)
[03:24] <bob2> Gus__: can you access that share from a windows machine?
[03:24] <quickbrownfox> optik: no way to fix mbr?
[03:24] <optik> ok then.... sounds like you're gonna need a 2.5" - 3.5" convertor
[03:25] <Gus__> bob2, i could before i installed Ubuntu
[03:25] <optik> you can.... in live cd's usually
[03:25] <Gus__> now, maybe if i tried now it wouldn't work, that i cannot say for sure...
[03:25] <cursed_sword> Ng my cup of coffee is growing cold rather quickly.
[03:25] <quickbrownfox> ok i have knoppix
[03:25] <optik> http://ubcd.sourceforge.net/
[03:25] <Gus__> HappyFool, i'm trying to create an account on the XP machine now, to see if i can use your method of authentication
[03:25] <optik> tht is better for fixin windows stuff imho
[03:25] <Ng> cursed_sword: I don't disagree with you that ogg is better, I try to rip my CDs to FLAC or Ogg, but my mp3 player will only play mp3s ;)
[03:25] <quickbrownfox> ah i think i have that too. thanks
[03:25] <Ng> I'll get an iriver one day
[03:26] <HappyFool> Gus__: can't you change the share properties (on windows) to be more permissive ?
[03:26] <DagaZ> can anyone here help me with my firewall?
[03:26] <cursed_sword> Ng I desire more companies to create open source hardware
[03:26] <Ng> DagaZ: what's up with it?
[03:26] <quickbrownfox> Ng: me too... one dayh
[03:26] <Ng> cursed_sword: don't we all :)
[03:26] <Gus__> HappyFool, i think it's already non-protected by a password, that's what puzzles me
[03:26] <DagaZ> Ng: iptables v1.2.11: Unknown arg `-m' <-- is this some kind of joke??
[03:26] <quickbrownfox> optik: thanks. i'll be back later if things go hairy
[03:26] <optik> not a prob
[03:27] <optik> PM if ya need help
[03:27] <quickbrownfox> =] 
[03:27] <bob2> DagaZ: what does 'uname -r' print out?
[03:27] <DagaZ> bob2: w8
[03:27] <Ng> DagaZ: what was the command you gave it?
[03:27] <DagaZ> 2.6.10-5-386
[03:28] <Gus__> session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_TYPE_NOT_GRANTED <== that's what 'smbclient -L 192.168.0.1 -U gus' returned, while i have just created a login/pass entry of that name in the XP station
[03:28] <bob2> DagaZ: show us the whole line you're trying to run
[03:28] <DagaZ> Ng: $FW -A FORWARD -i eth0 -o br0 -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
[03:28] <HappyFool> Gus__: try 'net view <machinename>' ?
[03:28] <DagaZ> Ng: $FW stands for /sbin/iptables
[03:28] <Ng> that command runs without error here
[03:28] <Gus__> no command view
[03:29] <Gus__> o.O
[03:29] <bob2> DagaZ: wfm, with that kernel
[03:29] <Ng> DagaZ: "lsmod | grep ipt" - does that show any modules?
[03:29] <HappyFool> Gus__: sorry, that a mistake
[03:29] <DagaZ> Ng: ipt_state               2048  3
[03:29] <DagaZ> ipt_MASQUERADE          3584  9
[03:29] <DagaZ> iptable_nat            24648  2 ipt_MASQUERADE
[03:29] <DagaZ> ip_conntrack           43668  3 ipt_state,ipt_MASQUERADE,iptable_nat
[03:29] <DagaZ> iptable_filter          3840  1
[03:29] <DagaZ> ip_tables              17408  4 ipt_state,ipt_MASQUERADE,iptable_nat,iptable_filter
[03:29] <HappyFool> Gus__: trying to look up this error in mailing lists
[03:30] <Ng> DagaZ: looks fine
[03:30] <Ng> hmm
[03:30] <Gus__> HappyFool, thanks a lot =)
[03:30] <HappyFool> Gus__: try logging in with the wrong password... just to see if you get a different error (NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE)
[03:31] <Gus__> ok
[03:31] <Gus__> same error
[03:31] <Gus__> ...
[03:31] <Gus__> the exact error is: NT_STATUS_LOGON_TYPE_NOT_GRANTED
[03:31] <Nige> with the windows permission
[03:31] <Nige> did you set it on the share and on the folder permissions ?
[03:31] <Nige> cause it would need both :)
[03:32] <Gus__> Nige, what do you mean ?
[03:32] <DagaZ> Ng:  I will try to change some hardware and be back later.. thx for now
[03:32] <Nige> well
[03:32] <Nige> if you set up shares in windows
[03:32] <Nige> to get your linux box to access them
[03:32] <Gus__> yup
[03:32] <Nige> you need secuirty on the local files
[03:33] <Nige> ie, everyone needs read access on the local
[03:33] <Gus__> you mean where i mount them ?
[03:33] <Nige> and set full control on the folder share for everyone
[03:33] <Nige> in effect the read only permission is taken
[03:33] <ram_einstein> my aptitude doesn't seem to work too well
[03:33] <Nige> so you wanna get mount a windows share
[03:33] <Nige> ?
[03:33] <Gus__> i want to be able to access files on a winXP machine from an Ubuntu machine
[03:34] <Nige> ah okay
[03:34] <Nige> thats first step
[03:34] <Nige> you need read privellegs on it
[03:34] <ram_einstein> how do I delete my obsolete packages?
[03:34] <Nige> :)
[03:34] <ram_einstein> and refresh my aptitude
[03:34] <Nige> windows needs both permission otherwise it dont work
[03:34] <Gus__> Nige, the thing is that, when you setup a file sharing in winXP, it just asks a sharename and if you want to authorise others to modify the files. i checked both boxes
[03:34] <ram_einstein> to fresh download and install everything hereafter?
[03:35] <Nige> are you using xp home?
[03:35] <ram_einstein> ie, delete apt cache?'
[03:35] <Gus__> yes
[03:35] <Gus__> ooh wait
[03:35] <Nige> aahhh
[03:35] <Nige> :S
[03:35] <Gus__> lemme check
[03:35] <Gus__> might be pro actually
[03:35] <aegr> ram_einstein,  "apt-get clean"
[03:35] <Gus__> yeah
[03:35] <Nige> just type cmd
[03:35] <Nige> then type ver
[03:35] <Nige> :)
[03:35] <Gus__> it's pro, home is on my laptop
[03:35] <Nige> thats should tel you
[03:35] <Nige> okay
[03:36] <ram_einstein> thanks aegr!
[03:36] <Nige> wel then goto you folder options tab
[03:36] <Marko01> Hoping someone can help me out with Evolution on my Ubuntu machine at this hour.  For some strange reason the send/recieve button, all of the sudden is grayed out and I can't seem to figure out why. ?
[03:36] <Nige> you need to change the settings
[03:36] <Gus__> well ver only says: NT_STATUS_LOGON_TYPE_NOT_GRANTED
[03:36] <Gus__> oops
[03:36] <Nige> so you dont use simple file sharing
[03:36] <Nige> i think you need a user account on your winnt box to see it
[03:36] <Nige> :)
[03:36] <Nige> i think
[03:36] <Marko01> receive*
[03:36] <Gus__> i have just created an administrator account on the winXP box
[03:37] <ram_einstein> what can be the reason for packages not being installed properly via aptitude?
[03:37] <Seveas> ram_einstein, various...
[03:37] <jeroen_> ram_einstein, dependencies
[03:37] <Nige> i will boot up my winx box
[03:37] <Seveas> what is the error?
[03:37] <Nige> you could try something like this
[03:37] <Gus__> okay
[03:38] <ram_einstein> jeroen_, but I thought apt takes care of that...
[03:38] <ram_einstein> Seveas, could you list a few likely ones?
[03:38] <Nige> smbmount -t autofs //Server/Share /winshare (local share)
[03:38] <Nige> that might prompt for user name and passwd
[03:38] <ram_einstein> how do I fix my problem?
[03:38] <Gus__> Nige,  trying now
[03:38] <Seveas> ram_einstein, unresolvable dependencies, download errors, errors in the package...
[03:38] <ram_einstein> nothing seems to install correctly incl. xmms
[03:39] <Seveas> ram_einstein, if you can tell us the error, that would help
[03:39] <VRH> i have a ntfs network partition mounting by samba, can i rite in it?
[03:39] <Gus__> Nige, it seems the syntax is wrong, i get a --help display
[03:39] <ram_einstein> Seveas, but apt doesn't give any errors!
[03:39] <Seveas>  VRH yes
[03:39] <ram_einstein> it seems to install fine
[03:39] <Seveas> VRH, it's a smaba partition for your ubuntu box
[03:39] <Nige> hmm okay
[03:39] <Nige> hold on
[03:40] <ram_einstein> but when I use the app, there seem to be "bugs"
[03:40] <Nige> do you have smbmount installed?
[03:40] <Seveas> ram_einstein, ah, then your question is wrong...
[03:40] <ram_einstein> what should I ask then Seveas
[03:40] <Seveas> ram_einstein, are you running breezy?
[03:40] <ram_einstein> no
[03:40] <ram_einstein> hoary
[03:40] <ram_einstein> 5.04
[03:40] <TokenBad> ok I just try to open totem movie player...and get msg that can't use oss sound cause its being used already....any idea how to fix that?
[03:41] <Seveas> ram_einstein, gnome/kde/xfce?
[03:41] <ram_einstein> gnome
[03:41] <Gus__> Nige, i don't know, how do i check ?
[03:41] <VRH> but samba uses the win dirver of ntfs?
[03:41] <Seveas> what's the error with xmms, only the icon missing or more?
[03:41] <ram_einstein> normal ubuntu, I just downloaded it and burnt it
[03:41] <ram_einstein> no funny tricks
[03:42] <Gus__> Nige, Usage: mount.smbfs service mountpoint [-n]  [-o options,...] 
[03:42] <Seveas> VRH, samba uses the samba protocol. It is complete;y agnostic to the actual partition types
[03:42] <ram_einstein> and added some extra repos
[03:42] <Seveas> ram_einstein, ah, which ones?
[03:42] <Gus__> Nige, that's the first line of the stuff i get when i type "smbmount"
[03:42] <Nige> hold on
[03:42] <ram_einstein> as per ubuntuguide.org
[03:42] <Seveas> ram_einstein, that is WRONG!
[03:42] <Seveas> ubuntuguide is quite crappy
[03:42] <Gus__> is it ?
[03:42] <Gus__> good to know...
[03:42] <Seveas> yes
[03:42] <VRH> thx Seveas
[03:42] <stjepan> hi
[03:42] <voth> has anyone updated their system and stopped being able to print?
[03:42] <Seveas> hi stjepan
[03:43] <Gus__> and i thought i'd have a clean install by only following this guide... =)
[03:43] <erUSUL> TokenBad, is totem-xine or totem-gstreamer??
[03:43] <ram_einstein> whoops Seveas!
[03:43] <HappyFool> Nige: for what it's worth, Gus__ has a mount command already (mount -t smbfs ... blah blah), it's the windows permissions are the problem
[03:43] <stjepan> can I download Opera browser with apt-get?
[03:43] <Seveas> stjepan, no
[03:43] <ram_einstein> one sec, I'll get you my sources.list
[03:43] <Seveas> it's not free software
[03:43] <TokenBad> erUSUL, not sure its whatever is default in ubuntu..cause it just says totem in the music and video section
[03:43] <Nige> hmm
[03:43] <Nige> you sure"?
[03:44] <stjepan> Seveas, I need to download from opera.com?
[03:44] <Seveas> stjepan, yes
[03:44] <cursed_sword> Why would you want to use Opera? It has advertisements in the free version.
[03:44] <Gus__> Nige, i am not, but then again i don't know anything about using Linux as a desktop OS =)
[03:44] <HappyFool> Nige: smbclient -L <winname> -U <username> gives a NT_LOGON_* something error, so I'm reasonably sure
[03:44] <rickie> Guys, sombody must know why Alsa won't work, to get sound in my games i have to kill esd and when i start it again my music crackles.. :/
[03:44] <Nige> lol
[03:44] <Nige> neither do i but i will get there :)
[03:45] <erUSUL> TokenBad, look in Help --> About
[03:45] <melostalgic> i just installed ubuntu yesterday and my sound was working fine then later that evening it stopped working altogether. was wondering if there was any way to fix it or find out why it's not working it?
[03:45] <rickie> sound in ubuntu sucks :/
[03:45] <Gus__> sound in ubuntu works perfectly fine on my laptop, but on my desktop i can't play sounds simultaneously... anyway, thats not my problem today =P
[03:46] <chillywilly> what utility will redirect sound card access to esd?
[03:46] <rickie> if anybody knows the answer to my question above say my name please =)
[03:46] <melostalgic> well i know it works because it was working yesterday.
[03:46] <Ng> I don't know any of the answers to these sound problems, but I will say that an SB Live makes them all go away ;)
[03:47] <Ng> I realise that's not a very helpful answer though
[03:47] <bob2> rickie: sorry it doesn't work for you, but please realise yo're in a small minority
[03:47] <melostalgic> well i am a new linux user so i don't really know anything about it.
[03:47] <Nige> gus type in smbtree
[03:47] <bob2> rickie: try asking on the user list; if that doesn't work, and no one else has, please do file a bug
[03:47] <Nige> can you see anything after you do that?
[03:47] <melostalgic> i started out with fc3 and had no sound at all.
[03:48] <ivoks> ;...(
[03:48] <xMaximex> Why can't i install beep media, xine-ui, totem-xine and many others app with a fresh install of ubuntu ? Before i reinstall i was able to install them without any modification to the original sources.list
[03:48] <Gus__> Nige, it asks me for a password, but i dunno which password it is expecting
[03:48] <jeroen_> cursed_sword, Opera is just the best browser out there. It's not free though, so I won't use it :)
[03:48] <Ng> it is quite staggering that in 2005 most soundchips still can't do hardware mixing :/
[03:48] <ram_einstein> melostalgic, yeah there are some problems with sound in fc3
[03:48] <melostalgic> so i was referred to ubuntu and afer getting it installed and seeing everything was working, i was quite pleased. then later i have no sound, after not changing anything in the config at all.
[03:48] <Nige> well put the root password in:)
[03:48] <Nige> that would do i think
[03:49] <erUSUL> Gus__, your user password
[03:49] <Gus__> Nige, i did, then it just stops and goes back to the $
[03:49] <Gus__> no error message, no other message, nothing
[03:49] <HappyFool> no, i think try no password. that's an smb password, not a linux password
[03:49] <bob2> xMaximex: you could never get them with the default sources.list
[03:49] <bob2> xMaximex: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[03:50] <Gus__> HappyFool, whatever i type, it acts the same, as i've described
[03:50] <Gus__> encouraging ^^
[03:50] <HappyFool> Gus__: try smbtree -U <windowsusername>, then enter your windows password at the prompt
[03:50] <Gus__> same ^^
[03:50] <HappyFool> Gus__: you should, i think, be seeing your own (linux) machine's shares
[03:50] <Gus__> i'm definitely not
[03:51] <Gus__> however, i can see my shares from the XP machine so they most definitely work
[03:51] <Nige> hmmm
[03:51] <Nige> well
[03:51] <Nige> i think that your smb.conf maybe wrong
[03:51] <cursed_sword> Regarding updates to rpm/deb whatever regardless of distribution, has anyone pondered the possibility of creating a torrent like system for synaptic or apt instead of basing all updates on a few mirrors which is expensive for the people who run them?
[03:51] <Nige> you should be able to see the shares with smbtree
[03:51] <Gus__> Nige, that's very possible: how do i fix it ? =)
[03:52] <Gus__> erase it, reinstall samba, rewrite it ?
[03:52] <xMaximex> bob2: that' doesn't tell me what to add in sources.list
[03:52] <bob2> cursed_sword: torrents for such tiny files aren't very useful
[03:52] <bob2> xMaximex: you don't need to add anything
[03:52] <jeroen_> cursed_sword, most of these files are very small
[03:52] <bob2> xMaximex: you need to read it and uncomment the lines it tells you to
[03:52] <HappyFool> Gus__: rather put it up at a pastebin and let us look at it
[03:52] <xMaximex> ok
[03:52] <bob2> cursed_sword: there're torrents for the cds and dvs, tho
[03:52] <cursed_sword> bob2 those tiny files add up when thousands of people are downloading
[03:52] <Gus__> HappyFool,  yeah i will do that
[03:53] <cursed_sword> bob2, also consider not just updates but for the entire servers/mirrors contents of software
[03:53] <bob2> cursed_sword: sure, but how many people will want to leave synaptic open to share a 100KB package?
[03:53] <bob2> cursed_sword: rsync is more efficient than bittorrent for syncing mirrors
[03:53] <Gus__> what's the url please ?
[03:53] <Gus__> pastebin.com ?
[03:53] <HappyFool> http://rafb.net/paste/ is one
[03:53] <jeroen_> Gus__, yes
[03:53] <cursed_sword> bob2 thousands of people are downloading around the world at any time
[03:53] <Gus__> pastebin.com doesn't work though =/
[03:53] <cursed_sword> bob, really
[03:53] <bob2> cursed_sword: sure
[03:54] <Nige> your using debian
[03:54] <Nige> well
[03:54] <Nige> ubuntu
[03:54] <Nige> like debian
[03:54] <Nige> :)
[03:54] <bob2> cursed_sword: bear in mind, too, that archive.ubuntu.com has more bandwidth than jeebus ;)
[03:54] <thoreauputic> Gus__: use pastebin.ca
[03:54] <Nige> so apt-get install smbclient
[03:54] <Nige> that will give you the clients
[03:54] <Gus__> thoreauputic, thanks, i've used HappyFool 's url
[03:54] <thoreauputic> Gus__: OK :)
[03:54] <cursed_sword> bob2 I brainstorm on how to reduce costs
[03:54] <pmjdebruijn> anybody have trouble installing this: libxml-parser-perl_2.34-4_i386.deb
[03:54] <bob2> sure
[03:54] <Nige> alternatively
[03:54] <Nige> if you have the gui
[03:55] <Nige> in the title bar
[03:55] <Nige> or address bar
[03:55] <Nige> type
[03:55] <bob2> cursed_sword: it's a good thought experiment, but no one has implemented it yet (and it does seem like it won't help that much)
[03:55] <Nige> smb://ipaddresswinxpbox
[03:55] <Gus__> Nige, bob told me to uninstall SWAT, so i did that =)
[03:55] <bob2> hah, I said to ignore it
[03:55] <HappyFool> Gus__: no, that's in nautilus
[03:55] <Gus__> bob2, =P
[03:55] <cursed_sword> bob2, perhaps we need an official think tank in the linux community
[03:56] <Gus__> ok, to ignore it
[03:56] <Nige> indeed
[03:56] <Nige> in nautliss
[03:56] <Gus__> Nige, smbclient is installed
[03:56] <Nige> awesome :)
[03:56] <Nige> you might beable to see the shares:)
[03:56] <Nige> if you can see em
[03:56] <Nige> you know it works
[03:56] <zth__> how can i setup SDL?
[03:56] <Gus__> HappyFool, what is in nautilus ? i didn't understand
[03:56] <bob2> cursed_sword: there's plenty of ideas out there, but people are far too willing to propose things without implementing or testing them
[03:56] <Nige> okay
[03:56] <Gus__> Nige, i meant: smbclients were already installed
[03:56] <bob2> zth__: you don't need to set it up
[03:56] <Nige> when you open up nautilss
[03:56] <Nige> okay
[03:56] <Gus__> Nige, that's less awesome, right ? ;)
[03:56] <HappyFool> Gus__: the smb:// thing that Nige mentioned
[03:56] <Nige> lol
[03:56] <Nige> naah
[03:56] <zth__> bob2, i need it to run by ALSA
[03:56] <cursed_sword> bob2 true
[03:56] <Nige> :)
[03:57] <Gus__> HappyFool, oh ok
[03:57] <Nige> use the ip address
[03:57] <danwood> <<<<< ubuntu newbie with a totem problem....
[03:57] <nalioth> pmjdebruijn: have you enabled universe and multiverse?
[03:57] <Nige> cause i dont think you put the ipaddress in host file did you
[03:57] <HappyFool> hey, smb:// works in firefox too. neat
[03:57] <TokenBad> erUSUL, I can't do help about..it will not even load..cause it says the oss is already being used
[03:57] <Nige> /etc/host
[03:57] <Gus__> nautilus asks me to log in
[03:57] <Nige> really
[03:57] <Nige> i didnt know that
[03:57] <Nige> ahh okay
[03:57] <Nige> awesome
[03:57] <Nige> your windows shares are a problem
[03:57] <Nige> brb
[03:57] <Nige> tell you the share permissions you need
[03:57] <Gus__> okay
[03:57] <Nige> 1 tick
[03:58] <voth> anyone have any ideas as to why i am no longer able to print, odd as it is i can still print a test page and that's it.
[03:58] <aleksander> any one who know what vnc server to ubuntu is named???
[03:58] <Seveas> albacker, vino
[03:58] <Gus__> thing is: these sharings worked when i accessed them from another XP
[03:58] <aleksander> or must i donwload?
[03:58] <Gus__> aleksander, vncviewer or xvncviewer
[03:58] <Gus__> it's already installed i think
[03:58] <albacker> Seveas, ??
[03:58] <Seveas> aleksander, the vnc server is standard installed
[03:58] <aleksander> thats is viewer
[03:58] <Seveas> albacker, sorry, <tab> completion error
[03:58] <Gus__> sorry i misread =)
[03:59] <aleksander> where do i forund, seveas?
[03:59] <erUSUL> TokenBad, do killall esd
[03:59] <aleksander> found*
[03:59] <Nige> okay try
[03:59] <Seveas> albacker, system->preferences->remote desktop
[03:59] <erUSUL> TokenBad, and try after that
[03:59] <nalioth> aleksander: use synaptic and search for vnc
[03:59] <TokenBad> I already tried that
[03:59] <nalioth> aleksander: you'll find many vnc things there
[03:59] <aleksander> ok
[03:59] <HappyFool> Gus__: btw, one usually pastes the url in channel after using a paste-bin (unless i missed it ;)
[03:59] <danwood> anyone help with totem on a clean install of ubuntu.... it won't run, and I can't fix it...
[03:59] <Nige> in windows explorer goto -> tools->folder options ->view
[03:59] <albacker> Seveas, ok ;)
[03:59] <albacker> Seveas, no problem =)
[04:00] <Gus__> HappyFool, sorry, i thought you'd find it by username, that's how they did last (and only) time i used it
[04:00] <Nige> then goto the bottom
[04:00] <HappyFool> Gus__: yeah i found it
[04:00] <nalioth> aleksander: once you find the name of the vnc server in synaptic, you can open a terminal and type the command
[04:00] <HappyFool> Gus__: i think that domain logons is not desired
[04:00] <Nige> of the list and untick simple filesharing (it doesnt work)
[04:00] <Gus__> HappyFool, sorry about that, i'm really not used to asking for help, always could figure out everything using windows =)
[04:00] <Nige> then click okay
[04:00] <HappyFool> Nige: standby - take a look here: http://rafb.net/paste/results/agrXaN67.html
[04:00] <aleksander> nalioth, how do i run synaptic in super user?
[04:00] <lynx> Does anybody knows where can I download Alienware theme for linux
[04:00] <weedar> I have a computer with a wifi-card I'm able to ping with (ndiswrapper) and a wired-NIC. I can ssh into the computer via the wired NIC, but not if I disconnect it and try to use the wlan0 IP? Any suggestions?
[04:01] <lynx> hello
[04:01] <Gus__> Nige, done, now i try again in nautilus
[04:01] <Nige> hmm okay
[04:01] <Nige> hang on
[04:01] <aleksander> lynx, why are you named lynx?
[04:01] <MegaManX> hi all! Can somebody recommend an application to create playable VCD's and DVD's for Linux/Ubuntu?. I've been trying gnomebaker, it's nice and can create playable audio disks, but I really want DVD and VCD's :)
[04:01] <Nige> that config file is only for local though
[04:01] <Nige> :
[04:01] <Nige> shouldnt make a differeance if he is trying to access remote xp shares
[04:01] <Nige> :)
[04:01] <nalioth> aleksander: system > administration > synaptic package mangler
[04:02] <HappyFool> Nige: so that domain logons = yes shouldn't matter ?
[04:02] <lynx> If you tell me where I can download the theme I tell you Why I use Lynx
[04:02] <Nige> it would matter if it was an xp box trying to hit the  linux share
[04:02] <Gus__> i do think i should take that "domain" stuff out, but i don't think it should matter for a "linux access to XP" stuff
[04:02] <HappyFool> Nige: according to man smb.conf, samba is now acting as a win95/98 logon server
[04:02] <Nige> hmm
[04:02] <aleksander> lynx, do you use a lynx pc?
[04:02] <nalioth> MegaManX: you can find all kinds of wonderful stuff at sourceforge.net (it has a search function)
[04:02] <Nige> so all he needs is the username and password
[04:02] <danwood> i think my totem problem may be video related but don't know how to troubleshoot.... xvinfo shows no adapters... is that right?
[04:02] <Nige> but i figured since is as workgroup
[04:03] <Nige> it shouldnt ask for the domain
[04:03] <Nige> but turn domain logon off :)
[04:03] <MegaManX> nalioth, thanks mate, I'll take a look ;)
[04:03] <Nige> that might help some
[04:03] <Gus__> how do i ?
[04:03] <TokenBad> ok I got totem working now..but it will not play the file..and the file is in divx
[04:03] <nalioth> aleksander: or you could just "sudo synaptic" from a terminal
[04:03] <Gus__> oh ok
[04:03] <Gus__> just No
[04:03] <Gus__> =)
[04:03] <lynx> I got a box, but that is not the reason
[04:03] <aleksander> ok
[04:03] <HappyFool> Gus__: don't forget to restart samba
[04:03] <Gus__> yup
[04:03] <Gus__> i have to find the command though
[04:04] <ram_einstein> my flashplayer-mozilla doesn't work very well- no sound and here's a screenshot of what happens when I click on settings: http://img85.echo.cx/img85/9087/flashplayermozilla3ib.png
[04:04] <aleksander> lynx???????
[04:04] <Gus__> a simple "samba restart" could be handy ^^
[04:04] <GhettoFish> Anyone got any ideas why i don't have any sound in VLC when i have it in mplayer?
[04:04] <lynx> Alienware theme anybody
[04:04] <aleksander> do you use a lynx pc?
[04:04] <lynx> yes
[04:04] <ram_einstein> something seriously wrong
[04:04] <aleksander> me too!
[04:04] <lynx> cool
[04:04] <dv8> hi guys, i just isntalled ubuntu for the first time and i was wondering if it is possible to have dropshadows under the desktop icon's text?
[04:04] <aleksander> who country?
[04:04] <HappyFool> Gus__: sudo invoke-rc.d samba restart
[04:04] <aleksander> lynx, counrty?
[04:04] <lynx> but Lynx have another congnotation
[04:04] <Seveas> ram_einstein, look at the HoarySoundProblems (oslt) wikipage
[04:04] <lynx> usa
[04:04] <ram_einstein> I just did a apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[04:04] <Gus__> HappyFool, thanks a lot =P
[04:04] <aegr> http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly
[04:04] <aleksander> ok, i live i norway...
[04:05] <Gus__> done, trying again now
[04:05] <danwood> can anyone help me to get totem to work?
[04:05] <Nige> okay
[04:05] <aleksander> but is'nt lynx norwegian?
[04:05] <dv8> danwood: what is wrong with your totem ?
[04:05] <lynx> where are you
[04:05] <aleksander> a firm called "respons"
[04:05] <danwood> it tries to start and then exits with 'resource busy or not available'
[04:05] <Gus__> Nige, HappyFool that changes nothing
[04:05] <aleksander> brb, food :P
[04:05] <ram_einstein> one sec Seveas
[04:06] <aleksander> i have birtday to dag :P
[04:06] <danwood> clean ubuntu install....
[04:06] <Nige> well did you try using the smb:// i your broser ?
[04:06] <danwood> think it's video card problem as xvinfo shows no adapter present.... is that normal?
[04:06] <erUSUL> TokenBad, try this comand; $ lsof | grep pcm
[04:06] <Gus__> Nige, i tried in nautilus, will try in FF
[04:06] <HappyFool> if it doesn't work in one, i doubt it will in the other
[04:07] <dv8> danwood: i dont think it's normal
[04:07] <Gus__> does nothing, blank page
[04:07] <dv8> danwood: but i dont know what could be the problem
[04:07] <HappyFool> Gus__: nige pasted some stuff re 'simple file sharing' earlier, as well, before i butted in
[04:07] <ram_einstein> Seveas, could you link me to the page? I can't find it
[04:07] <Gus__> doesn't even ask for a pass this time
[04:07] <danwood> me too :(
[04:07] <Rugmonster> good morning all
[04:07] <Gus__> HappyFool, i did do the "uncheck simple file sharing" bit
[04:07] <Nige> yer
[04:08] <Nige> but you need to set dual permissions on a share :)
[04:08] <Gus__> changed nothing though, but maybe i should reboot the XP box
[04:08] <melostalgic> if i read on how to make sound properly work in gnome, is it going to do me any good with ubuntu?
[04:08] <Nige> naaah
[04:08] <Nige> dont do that
[04:08] <Nige> xp wont need it
[04:08] <Gus__> Nige,  i don't know what you mean by that, never EVER had to worry about that before =/
[04:08] <Nige> you need to set "local permissions" tne Share permissions
[04:08] <Gus__> sometimes on networks, XP does need it ^^
[04:08] <cursed_sword> I recommend formatting XP boxes
[04:08] <Nige> yer i know
[04:08] <Gus__> Nige, what i mean is: i don't know how to do that =P
[04:08] <Nige> lol
[04:08] <AvvY> how do i forcequit?
[04:08] <Nige> okay
[04:08] <Nige> well then you right click a folder to share
[04:08] <cursed_sword> then it's one less person who talks about xp
[04:08] <nalioth> cursed_sword: you mean with ext3 or reiserfs? heh heh
[04:08] <Nige> you should have a tab called sharing
[04:08] <ram_einstein> AvvY, use the applet on gnome panel
[04:09] <nalioth> AvvY: unplug the box?
[04:09] <ram_einstein> easiest way
[04:09] <Nige> and on the sharing page ther should be one called permissions
[04:09] <AvvY> im using xfce4
[04:09] <ram_einstein> or kill guid
[04:09] <Nige> and there should be a permissions tab as well on the sharing tab
[04:09] <ram_einstein> ah.. use kill
[04:09] <Gus__> Nige, ok
[04:09] <Nige> i know this makes little sense doesnt it :>
[04:09] <danwood> how can i change my video drivers? i'm trying to get totem to start and think it is a video problem...
[04:09] <Gus__> never had acces to that since i used the "simple" thing
[04:09] <Rugmonster> hey guys, I'm getting desperate. I'm trying to load the latest ATI drivers (8.14.13) and I get it installed, but when I modprobe it, I get No such device. Any suggestions?
[04:09] <ram_einstein> kill -9 processid
[04:09] <Nige> i know
[04:09] <Nige> :)
[04:10] <nalioth> Rugmonster: use vesa
[04:10] <Rugmonster> yeah yeah, no
[04:10] <VEG> hi
[04:10] <Nige> set the everyone permission on the local files to read only
[04:10] <Nige> set the everyone group on sharing tab to full control
[04:10] <Nige> that should short out your share
[04:10] <ram_einstein> Seveas? you there?
[04:10] <Nige> btw can you ping your winxp box?
[04:10] <Gus__> Nige, i put "full control"
[04:10] <cursed_sword> I can sledgehammer an winxp box
[04:11] <Gus__> sorry if i'm a bit slow, it is a french version so i have to match the translations ;)
[04:11] <Gus__> hehe cursed_sword  =)
[04:11] <Gus__> Nige, i'm pinging it perfectly
[04:11] <Nige> okay
[04:11] <Nige> okay
[04:11] <Nige> now try getting to your share
[04:11] <Nige> :)
[04:11] <Gus__> "you must login to access 192.168.0.1"
[04:11] <Nige> you dont have any firewalls running do you?
[04:11] <Nige> okay
[04:11] <Nige> hmm
[04:12] <Nige> i have seen this before
[04:12] <Nige> lemme think
[04:12] <ram_einstein> please help! with my mozilla-flashplayer problem, here's the screenshot: http://img85.echo.cx/img85/9087/flashplayermozilla3ib.png
[04:12] <ram_einstein> settings
[04:12] <Shadowpillar> ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: MD5Sum mismatch
[04:12] <voth> can someone help me setup CUPS as my default printing system
[04:12] <cursed_sword> do sperm communicate?
[04:12] <VEG> In ubuntu GNOME is default graphical interface?
[04:12] <Shadowpillar> anyone know if marillat got compromised?
[04:12] <nalioth> VEG: yes
[04:13] <nalioth> Shadowpillar: lots of repos are showing the md5 error the last few days
[04:13] <ram_einstein> shadeland, need a faster connection perhaps?
[04:13] <thoreauputic> Shadowpillar: don't use Marillat - it's out of sync with Hoary now
[04:13] <HappyFool> ram_einstein: yeah, i had the same thing. i'm afraid i just left it ;)
[04:13] <ram_einstein> VEG, it's a desktip
[04:13] <ram_einstein> HappyFool, :(
[04:13] <Shadowpillar> thoreauputic: what do I use in its place?
[04:13] <cursed_sword> Shadowpillar I'd run tcpdump for awhile and note any unusual behavior
[04:14] <VEG> Now i download this thing
[04:14] <ram_einstein> nobody else has this problem?
[04:14] <thoreauputic> Shadowpillar: for which packges?
[04:14] <ram_einstein> HappyFool, no flashplayer then?
[04:14] <SigNagE> hey, can anyone help me out with a problem. I recently installed Ubundtu and tried my wireless network card with it (it claims to work but it doesnt seem to). Itc a dlink-dwl-520+ (ACX100). Someone linked me to the sourceforge drivers, i put them on my linux box but have absolutely no idea what to do with them :/
[04:14] <Shadowpillar> thoreauputic: repository wise
[04:14] <HappyFool> ram_einstein: i think flash worked, i just couldn't tweak the settings
[04:14] <ram_einstein> no sound on my flashplayer either
[04:14] <cursed_sword> Shadowpillar what made you curious about this?
[04:14] <thoreauputic> Shadowpillar: I don't use Marillat except to get codecs
[04:14] <cursed_sword> Shadowpillar did you notice anything in particular?
[04:14] <HappyFool> ram_einstein: that was on warty - haven't bothered installing it on hoary
[04:14] <ram_einstein> did you have sound?
[04:14] <Shadowpillar> cursed_sword: read up
[04:14] <ram_einstein> I have hoary
[04:15] <ram_einstein> running 5.04
[04:15] <cursed_sword> Shadowpillar have you e-mailed the maintainer with your concern?
[04:15] <Shadowpillar> NO
[04:15] <HappyFool> ram_einstein: umm *thinks* i think so
[04:15] <Shadowpillar> READ UP
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[04:15] <nalioth> Shadowpillar: the horns are starting to show.. ..
[04:15] <cursed_sword> Shadowpillar the maintainer would be the one to ask AFAIC
[04:15] <Shadowpillar> I didnt download shit
[04:15] <nalioth> Shadowpillar: what pkg are you after particularlY?
[04:16] <Shadowpillar> none
[04:16] <ram_einstein> hell, all my other sounds work fine...
[04:16] <Shadowpillar> I've had marillat in my rep list for a while
[04:16] <nalioth> Shadowpillar: recommand ubuntu binary repos only
[04:16] <Shadowpillar> I get this today
[04:16] <cursed_sword> Shadowpillar why are you answering my questions with previous statements? I'm not a retard
[04:16] <thoreauputic> Shadowpillar: then skip marillat and use other sources for stuff
[04:16] <VEG> Ubuntu live CD better that Knoppix?
[04:16] <nalioth> as thoreauputic said, they're on another sheet of music lately
[04:16] <ram_einstein> except that ubuntu seems to use the system sound oddly often.. the mbd sound sans speaker
[04:16] <VEG> Sorry for my English
[04:17] <thoreauputic> Shadowpillar: i believe backports have w32codecs, but I haven't checked
[04:17] <Gus__> VEG, from what i've heard, Knoppix is better for LiveCD
[04:17] <ram_einstein> thoreauputic, they do
[04:17] <thoreauputic> Shadowpillar: there are other ways as well
[04:17] <nalioth> Shadowpillar: or you could get them from mplayerhq (the website)
[04:17] <Gus__> Ubuntu LiveCD is designed as a test, or to get used to Ubuntu, not to use for a long time
[04:17] <Shadowpillar> what?
[04:17] <Shadowpillar> no
[04:18] <Shadowpillar> I have them already
[04:18] <Gus__> i wouldn't use it for a long time... that's why i permanently installed it ;)
[04:18] <VEG> Gus__, thanks
[04:19] <VEG> lilo works with ubuntu?
[04:19] <VEG> I use windows too
[04:19] <Shadowpillar> I never said I needed them, I was saying, I have always had marillat in my rep list, I was not asking about one of my packages being compromised or rootkitting me, I wasnt asking about the w32codecs, I was asking if anyone knew if the repository had been compromised because when updating, it had an md5sum mismatch
[04:19] <Gus__> i have a dual boot using GRUB
[04:19] <ram_einstein> do your ubuntu systems produce motherboard sounds a little too often? like everytime on the console autocomplete, everytime a new mail arrives on evolution...?
[04:19] <nalioth> VEG: lilo or grub, your choice
[04:19] <Gus__> i don't know about lilo, but GRUB works fine
[04:19] <VEG> ok
[04:19] <ram_einstein> I like grub
[04:19] <ram_einstein> it works nicely
[04:20] <ram_einstein> easy too
[04:20] <ram_einstein> don't use lilo
[04:20] <nalioth> Shadowpillar: as thoreauputic said, they're on another sheet of music lately
[04:20] <Gus__> i don't see what can be so different about bootmanagers though ^^
[04:20] <nalioth> Gus__: "a little too often" is subjective
[04:20] <SigNagE> hey, can anyone help me out with a problem. I recently installed Ubundtu and tried my wireless network card with it (it claims to work but it doesnt seem to). Itc a dlink-dwl-520+ (ACX100). Someone linked me to the sourceforge drivers, i put them on my linux box but have absolutely no idea what to do with them :/
[04:20] <Shadowpillar> thoreauputic: backports
[04:20] <cursed_sword> Shadowpillar if no one here can satisfy you with an answer, then my best suggestion is to express your concerns with the maintainer of the server(s) in question, how is that difficult to understand? Why continue to repeat yourself so others have to repeat their answers to you? Hello?
[04:20] <Gus__> nalioth, i'm sorry ?
[04:20] <thoreauputic> Shadowpillar: OK - my answer would be "I don't know" about compromise, but I do know that Marillat has broken people's systems
[04:21] <Shadowpillar> okay
[04:21] <ram_einstein> grub is "grand unified" boot loader while lilo is simply linux loader :)
[04:21] <nalioth> Gus__: sorry, can't see this morning
[04:21] <Shadowpillar> cursed_sword: just stop
[04:21] <thoreauputic> Shadowpillar: after all, it's for Debian and Debisn has changed recently a lot
[04:21] <Shadowpillar> cursed_sword: I was asking a simple question
[04:21] <Gus__> nalioth, hehe np =)
[04:21] <bullfrog_> hello :)
[04:21] <Shadowpillar> not an arguement
[04:21] <cursed_sword> Shadowpillar you're fucking clueless
[04:21] <cursed_sword> Shadowpillar quit spamming the channel
[04:21] <nalioth> out of the mouths of babes.. .. ..
[04:22] <Gus__> what i like most here is the charming atmosphere =D
[04:22] <ram_einstein> don't say that! he just seeks some help here
[04:22] <thoreauputic> cursed_sword: code of conduct
[04:22] <HappyFool> heh
[04:22] <Shadowpillar> cursed_sword: I'm not spamming the channel, what the fuck is your problem? I WAS JUST ASKING A FUCKING QUESTION.
[04:22] <HappyFool> Gus__: no luck yet ?
[04:22] <thoreauputic> cursed_sword: no need for that stuff
[04:22] <nalioth> ram_einstein: "a little too often" is subjective
[04:22] <cursed_sword> thoreauputic so he can repeat the questions and his previous statements and that doesn't violate a code of conduct?
[04:22] <Shadowpillar> not starting arguments here, I was asking one god damned question
[04:22] <cursed_sword> Shadowpillar you offend me, bye
[04:23] <Shadowpillar> zomg I offend him, someone call out the damn national guard.
[04:23] <rickie> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=209613 =)
[04:23] <Gus__> HappyFool, no =/ i'm PM'ing Nige to see if he has any more ideas =/
[04:23] <Shadowpillar> now then.
[04:23] <ram_einstein> okay, does your ubuntu sysem produce system sounds at all?
[04:23] <HappyFool> Gus__: ok, let me know what the fix is
[04:23] <thoreauputic> cursed_sword: I suggest you read the code of conduct and see the bits about respect and politeness
[04:23] <Shadowpillar> thoreauputic: what are the backports
[04:23] <dirk_> Hello SigNagE  try ndiswrapper it works great
[04:23] <ram_einstein> like when new mail arrives on evolutiom?
[04:23] <nalioth> Shadowpillar: he was practicing for his troll degree
[04:23] <Gus__> HappyFool, if i ever find it... ;)
[04:23] <ram_einstein> *evolution
[04:23] <thoreauputic> Shadowpillar: some people have made some packages available that aren't yet in Hoary
[04:24] <nalioth> Shadowpillar: backports lack quality control and can break your systems ability to upgrade
[04:24] <ram_einstein> even though my speakers work fine, ubuntu seems to use the system sound
[04:24] <Hajuu> hey
[04:24] <ram_einstein> why?
[04:24] <Hajuu> how can I force my cdrom to eject?
[04:24] <thoreauputic> or are not suitable for Ubuntu for legal/ philosophical reasons
[04:24] <ram_einstein> nalioth?
[04:24] <ram_einstein> Hajuu, right-click eject on gnome 2.8+
[04:24] <Shadowpillar> I'm surprised w32 codecs arent in universe
[04:24] <ram_einstein> desktop icon
[04:24] <nalioth> ram_einstein: yes?
[04:25] <david_> what's this whole bit of people's sound not working in Hoary?
[04:25] <thoreauputic> Shadowpillar: legal issues
[04:25] <Shadowpillar> this is one huge drawback to debian systems
[04:25] <Gus__> about this eject thing, it is REALLY frustrating that it locks the cdrom tray =/
[04:25] <Hajuu> No how do I force it to eject.. it says it can not be ejected at this time
[04:25] <Shadowpillar> easy to break, and you can only (safely) get your packages from one selected controlled source, not in the repository? you cant use that app
[04:25] <Shadowpillar> :/
[04:25] <willsky> excuse me
[04:25] <ram_einstein> nalioth, system sounds... does your ubuntu produce them? the ones from the motherbord without using speakers?
[04:25] <Shadowpillar> otherwise, it's good
[04:25] <willsky> how can i install java in firefox through apt-get
[04:26] <willsky> ?
[04:26] <thoreauputic> Shadowpillar: not quite huge - more an inconvenience I'd say :)
[04:26] <ram_einstein> I gave examples already
[04:26] <nalioth> ram_einstein: you mean system beeps? i dont know, i run an iBook
[04:26] <ram_einstein> willsky, yes
[04:26] <nalioth> ram_einstein: my nautilus and other proggys click and whirr all the time when they do something
[04:26] <Pixel83> willsky, sudo apt-get install j2re1.4
[04:26] <willsky> j2re
[04:26] <willsky> ok
[04:26] <willsky> i read something about the j2sdk
[04:27] <willsky> what is it?
[04:27] <Pixel83> did that yesterday
[04:27] <voth> can someone help me setup CUPS as my default printing system
[04:27] <thoreauputic> Shadowpillar: if you think Debian is easy to break, you live in an aternative universe ;)
[04:27] <zth__> how can i make SDL use ALSA instead of OSS?
[04:27] <nalioth> willsky: go to the ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ and look at 'installling java"
[04:27] <Hajuu> So.. anybody know how to force my cdrom to eject?
[04:28] <Pixel83> willsky, or was it j2se? i'm not shure, try both.
[04:28] <Shadowpillar> thoreauputic: apt-get wise it's easy to break
[04:28] <willsky> ok
[04:28] <thoreauputic> nonsense
[04:28] <willsky> i'll try
[04:28] <thoreauputic> Shadowpillar: apt-get is a pillar of strength
[04:28] <aleksander> how to start vnc-common???
[04:28] <thoreauputic> I know from experience
[04:29] <aleksander> or what us the name to vnc server?
[04:29] <nalioth> thoreauputic: think Shadowpillar is askin about using marillat and backports via apt
[04:29] <Pixel83> Hajuu, did that a few minuts ago with "sudo umount /media/cdrom"
[04:29] <thoreauputic> Shadowpillar: it's a question of understanding how the system works
[04:29] <Pixel83> and then the button worked.
[04:29] <SigNagE> hey, can anyone help me out with a problem. I recently installed Ubundtu and tried my wireless network card with it (it claims to work but it doesnt seem to). Itc a dlink-dwl-520+ (ACX100). Someone linked me to the sourceforge drivers, i put them on my linux box but have absolutely no idea what to do with them :/
[04:29] <Hajuu> Pixel83: I tried that. Even tried sudo umount -f /media/cdrom... still just says its busy
[04:29] <aleksander> nalioth, how can i start vnc-common?
[04:30] <Shadowpillar> Pixel83: it locks the cdrom drives to prevent removal of media without unmounting so the system doesn't give you some nasty surprise
[04:30] <HappyFool> Hajuu: try 'lsof /media/cdrom' and 'lsof /media/cdrom0' to find out what's accessing the drive
[04:30] <thoreauputic> nalioth: if one chooses to use 3rd party repos, he needs to know the ways that this can affect the OS
[04:30] <david_> question: how can i search the universe repository?
[04:30] <Pixel83> Hajuu, strange.
[04:30] <nalioth> aleksander: have you tried "man vnc" in your terminal (i don't know)
[04:30] <IRCMonkey> Hallo,.can anyone help with an installation prob , ubuntu hoary hedgehog?
[04:30] <Pixel83> IRCMonkey, yes, speak.
[04:30] <HappyFool> thoreauputic: maybe then we need to ask ubuntuguide and others to emphasize the risks when recommending adding third party repo's
[04:30] <nalioth> thoreauputic: and that is what he was askin about (ie break the system) i think
[04:31] <Pixel83> IRCMonkey, (i at least hope i can)
[04:31] <aleksander> nalioth, "no manual for vnc"
[04:31] <nalioth> aleksander: hang on a minim
[04:31] <IRCMonkey> I was able to install the whole thing, but when i want to register, gnome won't start
[04:31] <aleksander> ok
[04:31] <Shadowpillar> thoreauputic: I have a good understanding, luckily synaptic usually says "WHOA! CANT FIND THESE DEPS, not installing"
[04:31] <thoreauputic> HappyFool: yes I agree, and nalioth the point I was making was that if you  decide to use backports etc, do your homework first
[04:32] <thoreauputic> Shadowpillar: yes, true mostly :)
[04:32] <Pixel83> IRCMonkey, what do you mean with register?
[04:32] <IRCMonkey> when i want to log in as the user I meant
[04:33] <thoreauputic> Shadowpillar: yeah, it's OK if you know what's happening: we see a lot of people who don't, unfortunately :)
[04:33] <Pixel83> IRCMonkey, what DOES gnome do then?
[04:33] <nalioth> aleksander: put this in your browser   file:///usr/share/doc/vnc-common/start.html
[04:33] <aleksander> tanks
[04:34] <nalioth> Shadowpillar: i like using apt to compile from source, myself
[04:34] <IRCMonkey> It doesn't show me the splash, screen, all I see is the mouse cursor, the rest doesn't appear
[04:35] <IRCMonkey> It hangs up
[04:35] <Gus__> HappyFool, well, the only solution i have found is to connect to the XP box using vncviewer, and then do my file managing from there...
[04:35] <spiral> hmmm, how is breezy nowadays ? still broken ?
[04:35] <nalioth> spiral: like a dropped window
[04:36] <Seveas> spiral, look at the topic :)
[04:36] <Pixel83> IRCMonkey, have you tried typing your login blindly? that's whate I'd try first?
[04:37] <IRCMonkey> what do u mean blindly?
[04:37] <Pixel83> IRCMonkey, just acting as if you'd see a console login. type your nickname, Enter, password, enter
[04:37] <SigNagE> hey, can anyone help me out with a problem. I recently installed Ubundtu and tried my wireless network card with it (it claims to work but it doesnt seem to). Itc a dlink-dwl-520+ (ACX100). Someone linked me to the sourceforge drivers, i put them on my linux box but have absolutely no idea what to do with them :/
[04:38] <Pixel83> IRCMonkey, I've got no idea if it works, I'm not a very experienced user...
[04:38] <HappyFool> Gus__: hmm. not optimal
[04:38] <erUSUL> IRCMonkey, press Crtl+Alt - Fn to get to a console and log in there
[04:38] <TokenBad> how do I turn ident on in ubuntu when online?
[04:38] <HappyFool> Gus__: usually this works without hassles
[04:38] <spiral> Seveas: yes, I read the topic, but a few days ago, it said PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DON'T...
[04:38] <Seveas> TokenBad, sudo aptitude install pidentd
[04:39] <spiral> and now it only says PLEASE...
[04:39] <IRCMonkey> Yes and that's as far as it goes, after that it hangs and the cooler fan runs bumpy
[04:39] <spiral> so I wanted to know if the situation had improved a bit
[04:39] <Seveas> spiral, yeah, I changed that because it takes up too much space
[04:39] <Gus__> HappyFool, very, very far from optimal indeed =D i guess i'm doing something wrong, but i really don't see where...
[04:39] <Seveas> but it's still broken
[04:39] <Seveas> although the broken-ness is slowly getting less
[04:39] <spiral> Seveas: lol... all right
[04:40] <spiral> so I'll wait a bit
[04:40] <TokenBad> thanks Seveas
[04:40] <Pixel83> IRCMonkey, so you can't even switch to console by Ctrl-Alt-F1 for example?
[04:40] <nalioth> spiral: wait for "release candidate"
[04:40] <bob_> is there something equivalent to gnutella or kazaa for linux?
[04:40] <nalioth> bob_: gtk-gnutella
[04:40] <spiral> nalioth: all right... I'll miss sid...
[04:40] <bob_> tks
[04:40] <IRCMonkey> I can start a console alright
[04:42] <Pixel83> IRCMonkey, that's good. Now did you try a blind login on Ctrl-Alt-F7 ?
[04:43] <Gus__> anyone knows how to record a streaming video files ? i'd like to be able to watch the news in one time, instead of having to wait for the buffer every 30 seconds o.O
[04:43] <_kevin> how do i format a harddrive to specific format
[04:43] <IRCMonkey> No,I will in a sec though, I just saw somethng , When booting: temporary failure in name resolution
[04:44] <david_> Can somebody help me with installing media codecs?
[04:44] <nalioth> Gus__: mimms
[04:44] <nalioth> Gus__: that will work for microslut asf format
[04:45] <Gus__> nalioth, thanks, i've tried it but it didn't seem to work well... isn't there an interface a bit more graphical ?
[04:45] <Gus__> hehe yeah, unfortunately most of the news are asf or wmv
[04:45] <Pixel83> david_, www.ubuntuguide.org
[04:45] <nalioth> Gus__: i think you're stuck with CLI on the video stream d/l agents
[04:45] <Gus__> what is CLI ?
[04:45] <nalioth> Gus__: command line interface
[04:45] <Gus__> hehehe
[04:45] <Gus__> okay
[04:45] <erUSUL> _kevin, mkfs -t [fstype]  /dev/[partition] 
[04:46] <david_> pixel, i tried that, and when i do: sudo apt-get install w32codecs, it says could not find package
[04:46] <Gus__> well, it is an interface, and it uses graphics, so it will do =P
[04:46] <Gus__> thanks nalioth
[04:46] <Seveas> Pixel83, ubuntuguide is bad
[04:46] <bob2> it's not bad
[04:46] <Seveas> david_, if you install gstreamer0.8-mad, totem can play mp3
[04:46] <bob2> it's just a bit suboptimal on some points
[04:46] <Gus__> Seveas, what should we, clueless users, refer to then ? =D
[04:46] <Seveas> bob2, well, it contains lots of misinformation...
[04:46] <nalioth> david_: ya got universe and multiverse enabled?
[04:46] <Seveas> Gus__, the Ubuntu wiki
[04:47] <Gus__> Seveas, is it supposed to be flawless ? because i often get stuff not working in the wiki
[04:47] <IRCMonkey> pixel ican get to console
[04:47] <Seveas> bob2, and it has a "backports & marillat on by default" theme...
[04:47] <Gus__> like samba, it tells me to modify a window that doesn't appear, so... =)
[04:47] <nalioth> bob_: i agree, ubuntuguide doe have a bit of mininformation
[04:47] <david_> nalioth, guess not
[04:47] <stjepan> Is there any good IDEs like KDevelop and anjuta
[04:47] <stjepan> ?
[04:47] <we2by> I have a mp3 file, and if I encode it to mp4, does the quality change?
[04:47] <bob2> Seveas: yeah, that is silly
[04:47] <bob2> we2by: it gets worse, don't bother
[04:47] <nalioth> Gus__: a wiki can be improved by users, the ubuntuguide is static
[04:48] <IRCMonkey> Pixel?
[04:48] <we2by> bob2, how ocme?
[04:48] <we2by> isn't mp4 supose mean to be better quality?
[04:48] <flodine> can someone tell me is there something wrong with synaptic
[04:48] <david_> should i just uncomment all of the sources?
[04:48] <Gus__> nalioth, certainly, and i'm not especially keen on using the ubuntuguide. it's just that on a personal experience, i have found it easier to use the guide than the wiki. of course, if the guide is full of bad info, then it's not necessarily a good thing that it is more user-friendly =)
[04:48] <nalioth> we2by: you dont get good quality going from one compressed format to another
[04:48] <flodine> i cant even install pan newsreader
[04:48] <bob2> we2by: no
[04:49] <we2by> :(
[04:49] <bob2> we2by: mp3 has already thrown information away by compressing it, m4a will throw more, different information away
[04:49] <nalioth> we2by: mp4 is same/better quality at lower file size, but you need to start with the original audio file
[04:49] <we2by> so if I convert it to flac, it's the same>?
[04:49] <bob2> we2by: of course
[04:49] <bob2> we2by: the information is gone
[04:49] <bob2> we2by: if you want perfect quality, rip your cds straight to flac
[04:49] <nalioth> we2by: or to mp4 or whatever
[04:50] <Seveas> flodine, what's the error?
[04:50] <we2by> flac files are large, aren't they?
[04:50] <bob2> we2by: yes, about half the size of the original .wav files
[04:50] <stjepan> do you know?
[04:51] <HappyFool> heh. how much does zip or bzip2 compress a wav file ?
[04:51] <flodine> Seveas says some pakages could not be retrieved from server
[04:51] <bob2> HappyFool: very little
[04:51] <IRCMonkey> Can anyone help me with a gnome problem?
[04:51] <nalioth> HappyFool: bzip2 compresses the "eeek!" outta most everything
[04:51] <Seveas> flodine, can you paste the complete output of sudo apt-get install pan to ubuntu.pastebin.com please
[04:51] <HappyFool> bob2: interesting
[04:52] <Seveas> bob2, for wav compression helps more than very little
[04:52] <nalioth> HappyFool: bzip2 is the most compressing zipper i've seen
[04:52] <nalioth> HappyFool: but some things just don't compress
[04:52] <bob2> HappyFool: flac gets decent compression because it knows about the contents of the file (ie audio files aren't random binary goo)
[04:53] <flodine> W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gnet/libgnet2.0-0_2.0.4-1_i386.deb
[04:53] <bob2> flodine: don't use us.archive.ubuntu.com
[04:53] <Seveas> flodine, us.archive is buggy
[04:53] <Shish> lzma >>> bz2 :P Just no decent linux port yet :(
[04:53] <Seveas> flodine, sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive' -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:53] <flodine> take that oyt
[04:53] <flodine> out
[04:53] <bob2> lzma is unlikely to compress much better than bzip2
[04:54] <bob2> rzip is still the best general-purpose compressor I've heard of
[04:54] <bob2> Shish: 7zip is available for linux
[04:54] <Bryn_S> is there a channel for people wanting to test/bughunt Ubuntu?
[04:54] <thoreauputic> bob2: has anyone suggested that us.archive.ubuntu.com should be taken out of the loop until they can get their act together?
[04:55] <bob2> thoreauputic: yeah, it's a weekend tho :/
[04:55] <thoreauputic> bob2: ah, of course - fair enough
[04:55] <nalioth> Shish: huh?
[04:56] <nalioth> bob2: rzip? wow learn something new every day
[04:56] <Shish> nalioth: lzma (as used in 7-zip) has compressed the best for pretty much all the things I've tested on (comparing to bzip, gzip and winzip; I shal go and check out rzip)
[04:56] <DagaZ> ping dagaz.zapto.org
[04:56] <bob2> tridge is a smart dude
[04:56] <DagaZ> lol sorry
[04:57] <nalioth> Shish: so compiling 7zip doesnt work?
[04:57] <dimeo> did anyone else try upgrading firefox to 1.04 and totally have their system screwed up?
[04:57] <dimeo> I can't even load firefox now
[04:57] <thoreauputic> dimeo: how did you do it? backports?
[04:58] <_kevin> How i format my current ntfs parition and convert it to linux filesystem
[04:58] <nalioth> _kevin: you dont
[04:58] <Orunitia> dimeo: uninstall and reinstall?
[04:58] <Shish> The main 7zip code is very windows-specific, I only just found out there was a third party por
[04:58] <Shish> t
[04:58] <Seveas> Bryn_S, that'd be this channel...
[04:58] <Stew2> How do I insert '-V90=13S37=12' as an init string in a Lucent modem /dev/ttLTM0?
[04:58] <bob2> 39M 01.Seven_Years_ft._Natalie_Williams.flac
[04:58] <bob2> 51M 01.Seven_Years_ft._Natalie_Williams.wav
[04:58] <bob2> 49M 01.Seven_Years_ft._Natalie_Williams.wav.bz2
[04:58] <nalioth> _kevin: _kevin do you want to save any data?
[04:58] <bob2> just as a test
[04:58] <dimeo> I used synaptic update..(which didn't work) then uninstall and tried reinstall
[04:58] <_kevin> Nope
[04:58] <_kevin> I backed it all up already
[04:58] <Bryn_S> Seveas: ah, righto
[04:58] <nalioth> Shish: there is a linux version of 7zip at sourceforge
[04:58] <Bryn_S> I'd assumed this was just a support channel :)
[04:59] <dimeo> here's the error:  E: /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox_1.0.4-1ubuntu3~5.04ubp5_i386.deb:  short read in buffer_copy (backend dpkg-deb during `./usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/libgfx_gtk.so')
[04:59] <Orunitia> Did you do a complete removal?
[04:59] <Shish> nalioth: it's also in universe :)
[04:59] <stjepan> :(
[04:59] <bob2> dimeo: the .deb is corrupt
[04:59] <nalioth> Shish: i have a bad (good) habit of compiling from src
[04:59] <Stew2> In order to get a reliable connection to my dialup provider, I need to insert an init string in my modem. PLEASE I want to stop using Windows 98!
[04:59] <Seveas> no wonder, it's from backports </rant>
[04:59] <bob2> Stew2: chill dude
[04:59] <dimeo> so I'm guessing I've got a repository listed that shouldn't be?
[04:59] <thoreauputic> dimeo: backports are bad news...
[04:59] <david_> what does this mean: E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate
[04:59] <david_> ?
[04:59] <HappyFool> bob2: interesting results (flac / bz2), thanks
[04:59] <bob2> Stew2: presumably adding it to the chat script is enough
[05:00] <nalioth> whats the command to make a filessystem?
[05:00] <Seveas> nalioth, mkfs
[05:00] <Stew2> bob2 Well, Dude, I've asked the question over the last day or so. No one seems to have an answer.
[05:00] <thoreauputic> david_: it means you don't have a repository containing w32codecs
[05:00] <Shish> mkfs.<filesystem> <device or image to write to>
[05:00] <Seveas> Stew2, have you tried other sources (ubuntu forom, mailing list, wiki)??
[05:00] <bob2> Stew2: so maybe you should ask on the list or something
[05:00] <_oDy_> hi all, rhythmbox says it has no plugin to handle mp3 files, where do I find the plugin and how do I enable it?
[05:00] <nalioth> _kevin: open a terminal and type "man mkfs"
[05:00] <david_> should i enable backports ot no?
[05:00] <dimeo> Any idea how I can get the old version reinstalled?  1.02 or whatever
[05:01] <Seveas> david_, no...
[05:01] <hunger> What do I need to do to get two sound streams working?
[05:01] <bob2> Stew2: there should be a chat script under /etc/ppp soewhere
[05:01] <bob2> hunger: make all your programs use esd or artsd
[05:01] <nalioth> _oDy_: www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[05:01] <HappyFool> _oDy_: you can find out how get that working here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:01] <thoreauputic> _oDy_: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[05:01] <nickrud> Stew2, hi
[05:01] <Stew2> bob2 Chat script? It's using PAP I think. I dunno. I used the System, Administration, Networking applet to setup the dialup connection. Though right now I've been usiong Windows 98 because the connection is too unstable.
[05:01] <Stew2> nickrud Lo
[05:01] <thoreauputic> _oDy_: yes, read that URl first
[05:01] <bob2> Stew2: ok!
[05:01] <hunger> bob2: I got alsa.... that can handle this without those sucky sound servers.
[05:01] <_oDy_> thanks
[05:02] <bob2> hunger: so you setup dmix correctly already?
[05:02] <bob2> hunger: (no, default alsa cannot do simultaneous streams)
[05:02] <Thorrn4> hello all!!
[05:02] <bob2> Stew2: anyway, the correct file to edit is in that dir, but I can't remember which
[05:02] <flodine> ok guys i took out all the us.archive now theres no pan news reader
[05:02] <Stew2> bob2 I need to know how to do it before I reboot into Ubuntu so I can fix it correctly.
[05:02] <hunger> bob2: I dunno. I was hoping ubuntu had done that for me.
[05:02] <nalioth> Thorrn4: mornin
[05:02] <nickrud> Stew2, you used pppconfig to set up your modem?
[05:02] <david_> thoreauputic, will getting gstreamer work with rythm or only with totem?
[05:02] <bob2> flodine: so, you did the wrong thing
[05:02] <Stew2> bob2 I didn't use pppconfig. nickrud no.
[05:02] <bob2> hunger: nope
[05:02] <nalioth> flodine: not us.archive, jsut the us. prefix
[05:03] <bob2> Stew2: you should be using it then
[05:03] <thoreauputic> david_: both, for mp3
[05:03] <Thorrn4> morning nalioth....I'm not usually up this early....it just turned 11
[05:03] <nickrud> Stew2, oh, then
[05:03] <david_> thoreauputic, thanks, thats what i needed
[05:03] <Stew2> nickrud pon/poff complains about multiple copies of pppd running
[05:03] <nalioth> Thorrn4: <mutter>join the club</mutter>
[05:03] <thoreauputic> david_: I personally prefer xine/ totem-xine
[05:03] <bob2> Stew2: pppconfig has a simple option to add the string
[05:03] <Stew2> nickrud, bob2, I couldn't resolve the conflicts between pppconfig and the Networking Applet.
[05:03] <bob2> hunger: http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[05:04] <bob2> Stew2: then ignore the networking applet
[05:04] <Thorrn4> atleast I slept with the AC on nalioth...I think that's what it is
[05:04] <Shadowpillar> I've found that fedora core 3 rpm's convert nicely into ubuntu deb's ;D
[05:04] <bob2> Shadowpillar: ew
[05:04] <Stew2> bob2, Yep. I want to use the networking applet though, so the modem indicator works on the task bar like it's designed to.
[05:04] <nalioth> Shadowpillar: yes, alien is useful at times
[05:04] <Shadowpillar> bob2: I wanted gqradio ;)
[05:04] <bob2> Stew2: right, that does sound more important than getting it to work at all
[05:05] <nalioth> Thorrn4: our a/c went out, so no sleep til monday
[05:05] <Shadowpillar> bob2: ubuntu didnt have it, and there was a fedora core 3 rpm, so, ;D
[05:05] <bob2> Stew2: if you use pppconfig and get it working and irc from ubuntu, it will be way easier to get it working for you
[05:05] <Stew2> bob2, nickrud, and now pon and poff say there's multiple copies of pppd running and they aren't happy with the setup. The networking applet still works, so I want to use that. All I have to do is insert a string to get the modem connection stable enough to use.
[05:05] <thoreauputic> Stew2: get a windowmaker dockapp or use gkrellm to monitor your dialup etc
[05:05] <bob2> Stew2: so kill them all
[05:05] <Thorrn4> thats too bad nalioth; what is pppd...its been slowing up a lot in this chat
[05:05] <dimeo> what is a backport exactly?
[05:05] <bob2> Stew2: indeed, but it seems like the "networking applet" is shit and doesn't let you do that
[05:05] <Thorrn4> s/slowing/showing
[05:06] <pixel_> Seveas, why is ubuntuguide bad? most things wokred fine after some trying
[05:06] <Stew2> thoreauputic, It doesn't matter if I restart the machine. Poff still thinks I've got multiple copies of pppd running.
[05:06] <nickrud> Stew2, poff -a, then try pon
[05:06] <bob2> Stew2: do you have any copies of pppd running?
[05:06] <thoreauputic> Stew2: my experience with the networking front end was that I got *very* slow connection speeds
[05:06] <dimeo> I've removed them from synaptic, those bad news backports
[05:06] <GhettoFish> anyone got any ideas why i get this error message when i play some files with mplayer; "Mplayer interrupted by signal 11 in module: decode_audio" ??
[05:06] <nalioth> Thorrn4: point to point protocol daemon
[05:06] <bob2> GhettoFish: it means mplayer is crashing
[05:07] <GhettoFish> i assume it is a codec error.
[05:07] <GhettoFish> but i can't find which one i'm missing
[05:07] <Stew2> bob2 No, because like I said, I can't run Linux and stay online: as I haven't inserted the command string to make the modem stable enough. I just want to know where to insert the string '-V90=13S37=11'. It will make the Networking applet connection stable enough that I can use it.
[05:07] <randabis> howdy
[05:07] <bob2> GhettoFish: no, it's mplayer crashing
[05:07] <bob2> Stew2: good lord
[05:07] <Thorrn4> and what is a "daemon" then?
[05:07] <Stew2> bob2 I'll look at /etc/ppp if you think the script or whatnot is in there.
[05:08] <Stew2> bob2 Good lord yourself.
[05:08] <bob2> Stew2: use pppconfig.  insert the string (it has an option on the menu for it).  get online. come back. then we can play with guis.
[05:08] <dimeo> yes, you called?
[05:08] <abarbaccia> Thorrn4, a daemon is something that runs in the background that you don't know is running but doing its job
[05:08] <SigNagE> hey, can anyone help me out with a problem. I recently installed Ubundtu and tried my wireless network card with it (it claims to work but it doesnt seem to). Itc a dlink-dwl-520+ (ACX100). Someone linked me to the sourceforge drivers, i put them on my linux box but have absolutely no idea what to do with them :/
[05:08] <bob2> SigNagE: the acx_pci driver didn't work?
[05:08] <nickrud> Stew2, it's in /etc/chatscripts
[05:08] <dimeo> you need the ndiswrapper configured
[05:08] <thoreauputic> Thorrn4: literally, a "helper' metaphorically a process that waits in the backgroud until needed (more or less)
[05:08] <Stew2> thoreauputic, I seem to get slow connects too, though the slow connection in Ubuntu Hoary seems to be an artifact of the inability to enter a proper command string to get reliable connections with the modem.
[05:08] <dimeo> I'm guessing cause thats what I needed to get my WIFI card to work
[05:08] <bob2> ah, there you go, thanks nickrud
[05:09] <Thorrn4> thanx thoreauputic
[05:09] <nalioth> Thorrn4: your 'buntu box is positively SWARMING with daemons right at this very instant!
[05:09] <Orunitia> Can someone tell my what 'getty' and 'klogd' are? Processes in my system monitor.
[05:09] <Stew2> nickrud, /etc/chatscripts, so that's where the Networking applet stores the modem init string. Thanks.
[05:09] <randabis> I thought acx100 didn't need ndiswrapper...hmm
[05:09] <dimeo> thorrn4:  it's possessed!
[05:09] <jon_k> how can i tell what filesystem is on a drive from within the console? its easy to tell the partition type but i need to find out what type of fs is on a parition
[05:09] <abarbaccia> randabis, it doesn't
[05:09] <randabis> didn't think so
[05:09] <nickrud> Stew2, well, that's where pppconfig does, I don't know about the networking applet :)
[05:10] <dimeo> randabis: perhaps it doesn't... I know mine did for a motorola wifi card
[05:10] <randabis> he was probably talking to stew
[05:10] <Thorrn4> ...really? like what dimeo and nalioth?
[05:10] <thoreauputic> Stew2: in my case, th emodem is perfectly fine, yet the default config with the gnome frontend gave me $MB per hour (do not adjust your set, there is a fault in reality)
[05:10] <david_> thoreauputic, i installed xmms, where can i find the shortcut to it?
[05:10] <abarbaccia> jon_k, try 'sudo fdisk -l'  under system, its the partition type
[05:10] <Stew2> bob2 I haven't been able to do that, use pppconfig. It worked once, and then when I setup the Networking gui (which should just be a front-end for pppconfig anyway, right?) pppconfig's programs pon and poff don't seem to work anymore.
[05:10] <Orunitia> Can someone tell my what 'getty' and 'klogd' are? Processes in my system monitor.
[05:10] <davegahan> need some urgent help here, gnome crashed in a previous session and does not load anymore
[05:11] <nalioth> Thorrn4: dunno what you've got installed, might be a cupsd, a sshd, dunno
[05:11] <davegahan>  can only use "faisafe terminal"
[05:11] <nalioth> Orunitia: did you ask uncle google?
[05:11] <thoreauputic> david_: it should be in your gnome menu - I'm using fluxbox so I can't look atm
[05:11] <abarbaccia> Orunitia, dont keep asking - google them
[05:11] <Thorrn4> I'm new too linux nalioth...what did u say exactly?
[05:11] <Stew2> nickrud, Why is the Networking applet such a mystery. Is there documentation on it somewhere, because clearly it's there to be used, or it wouldn't be included...
[05:11] <davegahan> do I need to apt-get gnome again ?
[05:11] <thoreauputic> david_: or just run ` xmms` from a terminal
[05:11] <randabis> uncle google is watching a movie with aunt lycos
[05:11] <randabis> how cute
[05:11] <nalioth> Thorrn4: if you have CUPS installed, you have a cups(D)aemon running
[05:11] <david_> thoreauputic, you're right, i just didnt think it would do that automatically, thanks
[05:12] <jon_k> abarbaccia, /dev/hdc3             188       14593   115716195   83  Linux           doesn't show the filesystem type (ext3, reiserfs) at all
[05:12] <nickrud> Stew2, I'd never seen it until ubuntu, and I've never used it
[05:12] <Seveas> Orunitia, getty is the program that allocates consoles, klogd is the kernel log daemon. Use google or thir manpages for details
[05:12] <nalioth> Thorrn4: the cupsd 'listens' for you to hit <ctrl-p> or whatver it is to print something
[05:12] <davegahan> please if someone can help me...
[05:13] <HappyFool> davegahan: what error do you get when you try to start gnome ? (presumably on boot)
[05:13] <abarbaccia> jon_k, it does too - filesystem 83, type LINUX - is ext3
[05:13] <thoreauputic> Stew2: i don't think the hoary frontend to ppp uses pppconfig
[05:13] <Seveas> davegahan, move ~/.gconf ~/.gnome ~/.gnome2 out of the way and retry logging in
[05:13] <Thorrn4> oh.....I dont have a printer installed nalioth, so I guess that I might not have it
[05:13] <davegahan> well  can login
[05:13] <nalioth> Thorrn4: if you have dialup, the ppp(d)aemon listens for "pon" (dial up) and "poff" (hang up) and it dials the phone or hangs up
[05:13] <Seveas> all your settings will then be reset
[05:13] <jon_k> ahh, okay, thanks
[05:13] <abarbaccia> jon_k, if it was reiserfs or another one it would say different than linux - and it wouldnt be type 83
[05:13] <davegahan> but when GNOME starts up it crashes
[05:13] <davegahan> and  return to the GDM or login screen
[05:13] <nalioth> Thorrn4: just giving you examples
[05:13] <TokenBad> in xchat is there a way to show system stats like can in windows with moo.dll?
[05:13] <thoreauputic> Stew2: as I used pppconfig after the frotend and it knew nothing about my previous config
[05:13] <randabis> does it produce an error message davegahan
[05:13] <davegahan> how can I remove those directories ?
[05:13] <davegahan> no error message
[05:14] <odie5533> How do I check what IP my computer is assigned?
[05:14] <randabis> does it produce an error message davegahan?
[05:14] <Seveas> davegahan, mv ~/.gconf ~/.Trash/
[05:14] <LinuxJones> odie5533, ifconfig -a
[05:14] <davegahan> it just goes blank and then I get again the login screen
[05:14] <thoreauputic> odie5533: ifconfig
[05:14] <randabis> oopa
[05:14] <Seveas> and for the others too
[05:14] <nalioth> odie5533: ifconfig
[05:14] <davegahan> seveas, unfortunately  am not a termina whiz
[05:14] <davegahan> could you take me by the hand ?
[05:14] <randabis> uh
[05:14] <HappyFool> odie5533: also try Applications -> System Tools -> Network tools
[05:14] <Seveas> davegahan, type this over exactly:
[05:15] <davegahan> meaning, how can  get to those directories ?
[05:15] <randabis> davegahan: he just gave you the EXACT command...lol
[05:15] <Seveas> mv ~/.gconf ~/.gnome ~/.gnome2 ~/.Trash/
[05:15] <odie5533> And with ifconfig which ip is the one it was assigned?
[05:15] <SigNagE> hey, can anyone help me out with a problem. I recently installed Ubundtu and tried my wireless network card with it (it claims to work but it doesnt seem to). Itc a dlink-dwl-520+ (ACX100). Someone linked me to the sourceforge drivers, i put them on my linux box but have absolutely no idea what to do with them :/
[05:15] <davegahan> it says "no such file or directory"
[05:15] <Muiske> Does anyone have a HOWTO for mounting a (new) partition to the home directory?
[05:15] <thoreauputic> odie5533: the one for the interface concerned 9 eg ppp or eth0 etc)
[05:15] <davegahan> I am in my home folder
[05:16] <odie5533> I'm looking at eth0
[05:16] <odie5533> is it the inet addr?
[05:16] <randabis> SigNagE: in what way does the card not work? is it detected by your box at all?
[05:16] <LinuxJones> davegahan, it might be easier to create a new user account and try logging into that account
[05:16] <LinuxJones> odie5533, yeah
[05:16] <nalioth> odie5533: how many network devices do you have?
[05:16] <thoreauputic> odie5533: if eth0 is connected to the net, yeah
[05:16] <Seveas> davegahan, have you ever used the Trashcan before?
[05:17] <odie5533> 1
[05:17] <odie5533> I have a problem now then, I have 2 routers, and I need to forward a port to 192.168.1.100
[05:17] <davegahan> sure but not from terminal
[05:17] <david_> i've got another question, i mounted my external HD with: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mystuff -o uid=1000, yet i have only read-only access, why?
[05:17] <dimeo> any optionions for what's the best p2p on ubuntu?  Bittorrents never work for me
[05:17] <Seveas> davegahan, ok
[05:17] <Seveas> what does this say:
[05:17] <Seveas> mv ~/.gconf ~/.Trash
[05:17] <davegahan> let me create a new user then, like that can I remove those directories ?
[05:18] <thoreauputic> david_: what file system? ntfs?
[05:18] <davegahan> I am on my friends windows laoptop here...
[05:18] <dimeo> seveas move everything in /.gconf to /.Trash?  I'm guessing
[05:18] <LinuxJones> davegahan, if you can't login to the new user account gnome is broken. were you messing about with stuff ?
[05:18] <david_> thoreauputic, yah
[05:18] <Seveas> dimeo, i'm trying to let him do that..
[05:18] <Seveas> davegahan, do NOT create a new user
[05:18] <thoreauputic> david_: ntfs is only supported read-only
[05:18] <davegahan> no  was watching a movie on totem
[05:18] <davegahan> and I got a GNOME applet error message
[05:19] <davegahan> then I could not shutdown ubuntu
[05:19] <Seveas> davegahan, heve you typed the command I said?
[05:19] <Seveas> mv ~/.gconf ~/.Trash
[05:19] <david_> thoreauputic, is there anyway i can change that? through fstab or something
[05:19] <thoreauputic> david_: unless you are willing to install captive ntfs (experimental)
[05:19] <davegahan> had to pull out the battery of the laptop
[05:19] <thoreauputic> david_: linux doesn't write to ntfs
[05:19] <davegahan> seveas lets open a seperate chat session
[05:19] <Holdem> hello
[05:19] <Seveas> davegahan, why? I prefer staying in the channel...
[05:20] <davegahan> easier for me
[05:20] <randabis> staying in the channel allows other people to see the solution
[05:20] <davegahan> yes  typed the command
[05:20] <nalioth> davegahan: if you ask your questions here, more peeps can learn
[05:20] <odie5533> When I try to change default filetype association is says "Could not add application to the application database"
[05:20] <Seveas> davegahan, and did that give an error?
[05:20] <david_> thoreauputic, i  dont want to risk using captive so I guess ill wait for a stable release
[05:20] <davegahan> from my home folder it says "no such folder
[05:20] <GarenaSix> yeah id like to see the solution to it
[05:20] <randabis> I could understand if the text was scrolling very quickly
[05:20] <nalioth> david_: you may be waiting a while
[05:20] <david_> :(
[05:20] <Seveas> davegahan, ok, next one then:
[05:20] <Seveas> mv ~/.gnome2 ~/.Trash
[05:21] <Seveas> and then:
[05:21] <Seveas> mv ~/.gnome ~/.Trash
[05:21] <Seveas> and then:
[05:21] <Seveas> mv ~/.gconfd ~/.Trash
[05:21] <davegahan> these are hidden files isn,t it ?
[05:21] <HappyFool> is the name 'Trash' localized maybe ? (i'm guessing no such foldere is not an english error message)
[05:21] <david_> if i convert my HD to FAT, will it be supported?
[05:21] <Holdem> How do i get a transparent terminal? So that i can see my desktop through it
[05:21] <euphor] [a> hole
[05:21] <randabis> yes any file/folder with a . in front is hidden
[05:21] <euphor] [a> a
[05:21] <thoreauputic> david_: back up your drive and reformat it with something sane like ext3 ;)
[05:21] <nalioth> david_: yes
[05:21] <SigNagE> hey, can anyone help me out with a problem. I recently installed Ubundtu and tried my wireless network card with it (it claims to work but it doesnt seem to). Itc a dlink-dwl-520+ (ACX100). Someone linked me to the sourceforge drivers, i put them on my linux box but have absolutely no idea what to do with them :/
[05:21] <dimeo> david_fat32 works nicely between windows and ubuntu
[05:21] <euphor] [a> i'm about to install ubuntu
[05:21] <Seveas> davegahan, have you executed these commands?
[05:21] <randabis> SigNagE: in what way does the card not work? is it detected by your box at all?
[05:21] <davegahan> ok
[05:22] <davegahan> I moved .gnome2 to trash
[05:22] <randabis> I just answered you a minute ago jeez...you never said anything
[05:22] <dimeo> david: I have a separate partition for transfering files that's fat32
[05:22] <davegahan> that did not give an error
[05:22] <nickrud> Holdem, there's an option under edit->current profile in gnome-terminal
[05:22] <Seveas> mv ~/.gnome ~/.Trash
[05:22] <Seveas> ^-- try that one now
[05:22] <david_> thoreauputic: big step lol, no more windows ever
[05:22] <davegahan> hold on
[05:23] <anacron> is it easy to install drivers for ati-cards?
[05:23] <randabis> no windows = fun :)
[05:23] <Holdem> nickrud, thanks I'll try now
[05:23] <Seveas> anacron: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:23] <Seveas> if you follow that, it's easy :)
[05:23] <thoreauputic> david_: trust the force, Luke! Don't give in to the Dark Side! ;)
[05:23] <anacron> Seveas: ok thanks
[05:23] <randabis> no pms please
[05:23] <ericlim> \q
[05:24] <quam> you dont like PMS? :p
[05:24] <randabis> hell naw, too much cramping and bloating
[05:24] <david_> thoreauputic, im very tempted to format ext3 ;)
[05:31] (Seveas/#ubuntu) davegahan, could you login again or not?
[05:31] (nod/#ubuntu) hi all.  i'm having a problem getting pygame to install
[05:31] (nod/#ubuntu) I can't seem to locate it in Synaptic
[05:31] (davegahan/#ubuntu) no...
[05:32] (thoreauputic/#ubuntu) Howitzer: in preferences or "configure konqueror" there's a plugins dialogue somewhere - I'd have to fire up konq to look...
[05:32] (Seveas/#ubuntu) davegahan, ok, next step:
[05:32] <davegahan> neither normal session or failsafe
[05:32] <Howitzer> but ehh
[05:32] <odie5533> How do I make mp3's open in VLC?
[05:32] <Seveas> rm ~/.ICEauthority
[05:32] <davegahan> ok
[05:32] <davegahan> tell me
[05:32] <nalioth> nod: search for python or game
[05:32] <Howitzer> how can i go to configure konqueror if konqueror freezes the moment it starts? Oo
[05:32] <nod> nalioth: i did.  it doesn't show up
[05:32] <nalioth> odie5533: ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[05:32] <we2by> bob2, do u think 224 is flac?
[05:32] <thoreauputic> Howitzer: umm - good point :/
[05:33] <bob2> we2by: I don't know what you mean by "224"
[05:33] <davegahan> Seveas ?
[05:33] <HappyFool> nod: python-pygame is in universe
[05:33] <nalioth> nod: do you have univere and multiverse enabled?
[05:33] <bob2> we2by: a 224kbit/s mp3 is not a flac file, if that's what you mean
[05:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> where does Ubuntu keep slay? is it in a standard repo?
[05:33] <we2by> bitarte is 224
[05:33] <Seveas> davegahan, i told you already:
[05:33] <Seveas> rm ~/.ICEauthority
[05:33] <bob2> Kamping_Kaiser: in universe
[05:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok
[05:33] <dominik> how can i change the background color when the splashscreen loads? i dont like this ugly brown ;)
[05:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> thanks bob2
[05:33] <thoreauputic> Howitzer: possibly look in ~/.kde for konq config stuff?
[05:33] <nod> nalioth: i dont believe so.
[05:33] <davegahan> sorry - but what did you tell ?
[05:33] <nod> nalioth: if it's not in the default install, then I don't
[05:33] <odie5533> nalioth: I just want to open them with it, I already have VLC
[05:34] <we2by> bob2, higher bitrate means better quality?
[05:34] <nod> nalioth: got a url that talks about that?
[05:34] <nalioth> odie5533: you need codecs to open certain filetypes, read the page
[05:34] <bob2> we2by: in mp3s, yes.  in flac, no.
[05:34] <odie5533> nalioth: the file plays, it doesnt default to opening to VLC
[05:34] <nalioth> nod: ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats  <<this will tell you about universe and multiverse
[05:34] <nod> thx
[05:34] <nod> reading now
[05:34] <nalioth> odie5533: ok, you can right click and "open with" and if you want it default, there's a box at the bottom
[05:35] <Seveas> davegahan:rm ~/.ICEauthority
[05:35] <thoreauputic> Howitzer: possibly cd to ~/.kde/share/config
[05:35] <nickrud> dominik, system->prefs->background and change the color
[05:35] <Howitzer> okay
[05:35] <Howitzer> i'm trying to reinstall now
[05:35] <odie5533> nalioth: Open with other application?
[05:35] <Howitzer> okay
[05:35] <davegahan> ok
[05:35] <zedman> I'm having problems with my sound not working
[05:35] <Howitzer> here goes nothing!
[05:36] <Howitzer> hey wait
[05:36] <Howitzer> i remembered
[05:36] <thoreauputic> Howitzer: reinstalling won't help unless you purge the config (a bit drastic)
[05:36] <Howitzer> konqueror doesn't freeze when it goes to the 'conquer your desktop' page
[05:36] <dominik> nickrud, this only changes the background color when gnome is loaded. but after logging in, when gnome is loading, theres still the brown
[05:37] <davegahan> ok I did it
[05:37] <davegahan> retry ?
[05:37] <Howitzer> oh yeah, this isn't windows :x
[05:37] <nalioth> odie5533: yeppers, just like winduhs
[05:37] <Seveas> davegahan, no
[05:37] <nod> nalioth: great!  looks like that did it
[05:37] <Seveas> davegahan: rm ~/.Xauthority
[05:37] <nod> thx
[05:37] <nickrud> dominik, yeah, I looked after I typed, so, my bad, sorry
[05:37] <thoreauputic> Howitzer: have you tried starting konq from a terminal?
[05:37] <davegahan> ok
[05:37] <Seveas> davegahan, and THEN retry
[05:37] <odie5533> yay for winduhs, hazaah!
[05:37] <dimeo> zedman: me too whenever I boot I have to type killall esd
[05:37] <nod> that was driving me nuts
[05:37] <nalioth> nod: now you can reload your synaptic and have lots more toys
[05:37] <zedman> can you get your sound back though?
[05:38] <zedman> by restarting the esd?
[05:38] <dominik> nickrud,  no problem, any idea where i can change that?
[05:38] <zedman> I just have no sound when I boot, and it was working yesterday
[05:38] <Howitzer> it froze again
[05:38] <dimeo> I get sound from ubuntu loading the desktop but when I boot XMMS it doesn't work
[05:38] <thoreauputic> Howitzer: :(
[05:38] <davegahan> no same problem remains
[05:38] <Howitzer> argh
[05:38] <Seveas> dimeo, change the xmms output plugin to esd
[05:38] <kroiz> the dhcp client on my ubuntu is not getting an ip. is there a log I can see why not?
[05:39] <Howitzer> and it only occurs when i go to the map
[05:39] <nickrud> dominik, I've just looked at a couple of places, and it's not there, either ;(
[05:39] <Howitzer> *a map
[05:39] <Howitzer> like when i fo in ome folder
[05:39] <thoreauputic> dimeo: select the esound output plugin for xmms
[05:39] <Seveas> kroiz, does it say: no DHCPOFFERS received?
[05:39] <dimeo> seveas: what should the multimedia systems selectors be set to?
[05:39] <dominik> hmm, but thanks for trying
[05:39] <zedman> just type dmix in the terminal?
[05:39] <Howitzer> it says that it doesn't have any files or folders at the bottom
[05:39] <Seveas> dimeo, esd/esound/enlightenment sound daemon, something like that
[05:39] <GhettoFish> Anyone know which lib i can find the AC97 audo codec for XviD?
[05:39] <Howitzer> WAIT
[05:40] <kroiz> Seveas, not anywhere i noticed.
[05:40] <davegahan> why can,t I just apt-get and renstall the GNOME desktop ?
[05:40] <Howitzer> Terminal gives a whole lot of errors
[05:40] <dimeo> seveas: both for input and output?
[05:40] <Lafitte-> Seveas,  i hve that no ip issue also t times
[05:40] <zedman> thoreauputic: just type dmix in the term?
[05:40] <thoreauputic> zedman: dmix is a bit more complex than that
[05:40] <Howitzer> thoreauputic, can i spam you the stuff in a pm?
[05:40] <Seveas> kroiz, can you paste the output of sudo dhclient eth0 (or whaterver your net card is) on ubuntu.pastebin.com please
[05:40] <Seveas> dimeo, only output
[05:41] <Lafitte-> kroiz, mine does that after been idle super long time   and then requires  reboot to get ip again
[05:41] <zedman> thoreauputic: how so?
[05:41] <nod> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gcc-3.3/libg2c0_3.3.5-8ubuntu2_i386.deb    MD5Sum mismatch
[05:41] <Seveas> nod, us.archive is borked
[05:41] <thoreauputic> zedman: there's a decent howto on converting to dmix on ubuntuguide.org under "fix sound" or something
[05:41] <randabis> nod: use archive.ubuntu.com not us
[05:41] <londonboi2k3> hi guys i am getting and md5 checksum error with apt-get update on  http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe is there a problem with ther servers?
[05:41] <jino> can any one say why no virus attacks on linux?
[05:41] <nod> randabis: ummm... ok
[05:41] <randabis> omg
[05:41] <nalioth> nod: now the next problem
[05:41] <thoreauputic> zedman: or 'make sound work properly" - have a look
[05:41] <zedman> I'm going :)
[05:41] <randabis> londonboi2k3: use archive.ubuntu.com not us.archive.ubuntu.com
[05:41] <zedman> thanks
[05:41] <|QuaD-_> jino: thats not true
[05:42] <londonboi2k3> ahh ok thanks very much
[05:42] <jino> why?
[05:42] <|QuaD-_> jino: there are things like rootkits and what not
[05:42] <thoreauputic> Howitzer: I'd prefer you used #flood
[05:42] <nalioth> nod: open your /etc/apt/sources.list (as root) and remove the us. from the front of all the addresses with us. in the front
[05:42] <Howitzer> oky
[05:42] <Corvus> when i try to install ubuntu, it gives me an error about unreadable file on the cd, i checked the cd and it's correct
[05:42] <Howitzer> already did that
[05:42] <|QuaD-_> jino: there are malicious binary files
[05:42] <Howitzer> nobody answers though :(
[05:42] <davegahan> seves ?
[05:42] <jino> okie..
[05:42] <kevogod> jino: Windows is usually set up as Administrator.
[05:42] <SigNagE> hey, can anyone help me out with a problem. I recently installed Ubundtu and tried my wireless network card with it (it claims to work but it doesnt seem to). Itc a dlink-dwl-520+ (ACX100). Someone linked me to the sourceforge drivers, i put them on my linux box but have absolutely no idea what to do with them :/
[05:42] <Corvus> does anyone knows about his
[05:42] <Corvus> ?
[05:42] <jino> okie..
[05:42] <Seveas> davegahan, did you retry?
[05:42] <Corvus> *this
[05:42] <nod> nalioth: is there just something wrong with the us mirror?
[05:42] <|QuaD-_> jino: windows viruses just don't effect linux
[05:43] <Howitzer> yes
[05:43] <davegahan> yes i did
[05:43] <jino> okie.
[05:43] <kevogod> jino: And access is still enough in Limited mode that viruses are affect it more.
[05:43] <kroiz> this place is too crowded, thanks any.
[05:43] <davegahan> no change
[05:43] <Howitzer> nod, you need to change to archives.ubuntu
[05:43] <thoreauputic> Howitzer: try changing your theme - it's complaining about icons
[05:43] <imnes> Anybody know if there are any glib-gettext 2.2.0+ packages available for ubuntu?
[05:43] <Howitzer> i can't
[05:43] <randabis> SigNagE: is the device listed in ifconfig or iwconfig?
[05:43] <Howitzer> i need to do that with konqueror in the settings page
[05:43] <jino> so virsu attacks can happen?
[05:43] <nalioth> nod: yes, atm they are md5 impaired
[05:43] <nod> Howitzer: yeah, i was just curious why
[05:43] <nod> ahh, ok
[05:43] <xophEr> do you know how I can modify the apperance of the xscreensaver 'locked'-dialog, like its modified in ubuntu ( http://www.tufan.com.tr/~ercin/sshot/ubuntu_xscreensaver_lock_thumb.png ) ?
[05:43] <thoreauputic> Howitzer: sure you can - fire up kcontrol
[05:43] <imnes> THe us mirror is messed up...
[05:43] <davegahan> I cannot load metacity, it goes blank before that
[05:44] <squinn> hey, panickedthumb.
[05:44] <nod> that's cool then. i didnt know if us.arch had been compromised or something
[05:44] <ghostless> How can I burn a cdi CD image???
[05:44] <kevogod> jino: With Linux, people can fix holes themselves while on Windows everything is left up to Microsoft and they have a lot of outstanding issues.
[05:44] <Howitzer> oh my
[05:44] <Howitzer> ty
[05:44] <panickedthumb> howdy squinn
[05:44] <thoreauputic> Howitzer: your icons are a kde thing - not a konq thing
[05:44] <ghostless> How can I burn a cdi CD image???
[05:44] <dimeo> When installing with apt-get here's the error message I still get, but no idea how to fix:  Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:44] <dimeo>  /var/cache/apt/archives/libgtkhtml2-0_2.6.3-1_i386.deb
[05:44] <dimeo> Processing was halted because there were too many errors.
[05:44] <dimeo> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:44] <nalioth> nod: just read above to what i said about us. thangs
[05:44] <jino> ya..
[05:44] <dimeo> sudo apt-get clean doesn't do anything
[05:44] <imnes> I dunno why it's down, but it is.  Just take the us. off your sources list and use the international servers
[05:44] <ghostless> How can I burn a cdi CD image???
[05:44] <Seveas> davegahan, type this in the terminal and paste the output in a private chat: ls -al | grep '\.g'
[05:44] <squinn> how's moderating them forums going?
[05:44] <nod> alright.  just curious. thx
[05:44] <|QuaD-_> jino: they can happen, people just don't really target linux as much as windows
[05:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> ghostless stop asking
[05:45] <davegahan> ok
[05:45] <|QuaD-_> jino: you should still never run binaries that you don't know where they came from
[05:45] <jino> can u temme how to install internet services like cgi support
[05:45] <ghostless> Kamping_Kaiser, no thanks
[05:45] <HappyFool> ghostless: if anyone knew, they'd have answered by now
[05:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> ghostless, your being rude
[05:45] <nalioth> ghostless: if anyone knows, they will answer
[05:45] <jino> okie..
[05:45] <ghostless> Kamping_Kaiser, It's ok
[05:45] <jino> okie
[05:45] <nalioth> ghostless: please give it a few minutes tween the same question, ok?
[05:45] <jino> thanx a lot..
[05:45] <thenuke_> ghostless: try googling for it
[05:45] <ghostless> nalioth, I will indeed, thank you
[05:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> night all, good luck ghostless ;)
[05:45] <Thorrn4> hello HappyFool
[05:46] <imnes> ghostless, try this: http://kiso.sourceforge.net/info_ks.php
[05:46] <ghostless> Kamping_Kaiser, Thanks you kind sir
[05:46] <HappyFool> hey Thorrn4
[05:46] <ghostless> imnes, Thanks I will
[05:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> :D
[05:46] <Thorrn4> how is it going HappyFool?
[05:46] <Howitzer> okay
[05:46] <davegahan> I cant paste-copy seveas because  am on a windows machine here
[05:46] <nalioth> Thorrn4: did i explain your daemons adequately?
[05:47] <randabis> no pms please
[05:47] <jino> how to get cgi support ?
[05:47] <klaym> anyone run smtm, gepolabo, qtstalker or some other stock analysis software on Ubuntu? please pm me!
[05:47] <HappyFool> Thorrn4: not too bad ta. how are you?
[05:47] <randabis> next pm gets /ignore
[05:47] <Seveas> jino, install apache2 and read its manual...
[05:47] <Howitzer> i'm going to test konqueror again, wish me luck :scared_as_hell_:
[05:47] <ghostless> imnes, Is there a package for it?
[05:47] <davegahan> there are still gnome2 gnome2_private, and gnome_private directories as I can see
[05:47] <jino> thanx
[05:47] <Thorrn4> ummm....it's like the program that does the action of what you want, from clicking the button(s), it does what you want (like print); right nalioth?
[05:47] <Seveas> davegahan, ok:
[05:47] <davegahan> do  have to move these to trash too ?
[05:48] <londonboi2k3> Is it possible to have my computer mail me to a predified e-mail address what my new ip address is after a reboot?
[05:48] <Seveas> davegahan, mv ~/.gnome2 ~/.gnome*private ~/.Trash
[05:48] <nalioth> Thorrn4: the daemons 'listen' for their cue to go to work, yes
[05:48] <Howitzer> :eek: konqueror froze -again-
[05:48] <HappyFool> londonboi2k3: if you've got your mail setup working, probably yes
[05:48] <Thorrn4> I'm ok HappyFool; I just woke up...and the computer turned on, so I'm good so far :) I've have some problems recently, but I managed to find help and fixed them
[05:49] <londonboi2k3> sendmail is working ok, and i can send mail out. how would i tell it to mail me my IP address? is there a howto anywhere you could point me to ;)
[05:49] <randabis> Howitzer: are you using kde 3.4.1?
[05:49] <thoreauputic> londonboi2k3: easier is to install ez-ipupdate and get a free dyndns.org redirection
[05:49] <HappyFool> Thorrn4: heh. i'm about to go hunt down some supper ;)
[05:49] <dimeo> should I have openoffice.org or openoffice.org2 installed in ubuntu hoary?
[05:49] <kevogod> Not 2
[05:49] <Seveas> dimeo, OOo2 in hoary is not too stable...
[05:49] <HappyFool> londonboi2k3: well, you can do what thoreauputic said, or you can just pipe ifconfig into the mail command -- see 'man mail'
[05:49] <Howitzer> randabis,  i'm no sure
[05:50] <dimeo> seveas: thx again
[05:50] <Howitzer> how do i check that?
[05:50] <randabis> use koffice lolz
[05:50] <kevogod> Will OOo2 be supported by Ubuntu since it uses Java?
[05:50] <randabis> Howitzer: open kcontrol
[05:50] <Thorrn4> HappyFool,  then I checked my email....and i have not got any spam to look through...GMAIL is very good. Breakfast would be good....I wonder what I should have
[05:50] <Seveas> kevogod, yes
[05:50] <zedman> is the sshd in /etc/sshd ?
[05:50] <Howitzer> 3.4.0 randabis
[05:50] <imnes> kevogod - you can run it without java, just not all the features will be there.
[05:50] <Seveas> zedman, have you installed openssh-server?
[05:50] <Howitzer> Kubuntu
[05:50] <randabis> Howitzer: you should upgrade
[05:50] <zedman> yeah, its been installed
[05:51] <Howitzer> i can't :x
[05:51] <kevogod> I mean, will it be installed in 5.10?
[05:51] <kevogod> by default
[05:51] <imnes> Also gnu's free java implementation is available in ubuntu
[05:51] <londonboi2k3> I will try thoreauputic's idea, sounds cool to me. My ISP keeps changing my IP ever reboot unlike my old ISP which let me keep it for up to 3 months before a chang
[05:51] <Seveas> zedman, then type dpkg -L openssh-server to find out where it is
[05:51] <Howitzer> i did tje apt-get nd it said i have the latest version
[05:51] <Seveas> kevogod, yup
[05:51] <mink> is there a program that is run to generate the x.org conf that ubuntu uses?
[05:51] <Seveas> mink, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:51] <toshiba_> Any ideas why the following command doesn't work for me?: cat /proc/cpufreq
[05:51] <randabis> Howitzer: why not? join #kubuntu and read the channel topic. It gives you the information to add to /etc/apt/sources.list in order to update
[05:52] <jino> can u temme how to execute php?
[05:52] <HappyFool> londonboi2k3: this works for me: 'ifconfig | mail me@myhost' -- you could add that to the startup scripts
[05:52] <davegahan> why is it saying gnome2_private and gnome_private "no such files" ?
[05:52] <Seveas> toshiba_, maybe your processor does not support it...
[05:52] <mink> yeah hmm, I guess my question is when I first install ubuntu, how does it generate that orignal config
[05:52] <toshiba_> Seveas, Pentium-M.
[05:52] <nalioth> imnes: gnus java implementation?
[05:52] <Seveas> toshiba_, have you installed linux-686
[05:52] <Seveas> ?
[05:52] <londonboi2k3> ahh, thats interesting! Thanks HF
[05:52] <Lafitte-> sweet  we just had a earthquake
[05:52] <toshiba_> Seveas, Yes.
[05:53] <Seveas> toshiba_, weird, same setup here and works fine
[05:53] <Thorrn4> ...is Breezy the next version of Ubuntu? because the name was in the Topic...and Ubuntu seams to use weird names....
[05:53] <Ng> yes
[05:53] <Seveas> you are not on warty by the way?
[05:53] <jino> can i login as root graphically?
[05:53] <dimeo> any opinions for the best way to integrate RSS feeds into my Ubuntu installation?  I at first used Kontact, but I don't want to load the whole thing every time I get RSS feeds
[05:53] <nalioth> Thorrn4: yes breezy is the next level
[05:53] <bob2> jino: yes, but why?
[05:53] <Ng> and after breezy is grumpy or something ;)
[05:53] <Seveas> Ng, no
[05:53] <Seveas> Ng, grumpy is a different project
[05:53] <imnes> nalioth: you can install java-gcj-compat, libgcj6, gcj and you'll have a working gnu java install.
[05:53] <Thorrn4> why not stick 2 just numbers?
[05:53] <nalioth> dimeo: google "yarssr"
[05:53] <toshiba_> Seveas, cpufredq now works.. but can't use that cmd.. no, not on warty..
[05:53] <Ng> Seveas: ah, what's that about then?
[05:54] <Seveas> toshiba_, you do not need cpufreqd
[05:54] <dimeo> Speaking of weird ubuntu names.... how many ppl get comments like " what your os is whorey?"
[05:54] <nalioth> imnes: really? so why all the wikiness on goin to sun or ibm and jumpin thru hoops?
[05:54] <jino> coz no other user has full powers..rt?
[05:54] <toshiba_> Seveas, is it normal that I don't even have a /proc folder?
[05:54] <jino> how can i?
[05:54] <Seveas> Ng, it'll be a rolling unstable like debian sid
[05:54] <Ben_Babcock> When I try to install Ubuntu, my keyboard won't respond when I get to the "Choose a language" screen.  It's a Toshiba laptop.
[05:54] <Seveas> toshiba_, wtf??
[05:54] <Seveas> that's NOT normal...
[05:54] <bob2> jino: why do you want to login as root?
[05:54] <toshiba_> Seveas, nvrmind, i do :P
[05:54] <Ng> Seveas: ahhh, cool :)
[05:54] <imnes> nalioth - the gnu stuff is a work in progress, some swing apps still won't run, but most stuff is okay.
[05:54] <toshiba_> Seveas, but no /cpufreq :(
[05:54] <imnes> Eclipse and other stuff will run fine.
[05:55] <nalioth> imnes: ah
[05:55] <Seveas> toshiba_, maybe cpufreqd screws that up for you, you don't need cpufreqd anyway
[05:55] <jino> just wanted to know..
[05:55] <imnes> I think anything except more advanced swing apps will run.  But haven't tried too many myself.
[05:55] <Ng> Seveas: is there an ubuntu weekly newsletter yet? tracking all these things involves watching a lot of mailing lists and IRC channels and wikis ;)
[05:55] <thenuke_> jino: you really should not have need to "login graphically" as a root
[05:55] <jino> just wanted to know..
[05:55] <Thorrn4> dimeo, not many people like Ubuntu...all my other Linux friends dont like it; they kinda laught at me
[05:55] <Seveas> Ng, search for ubuntu-traffic un the ubuntu website
[05:55] <bob2> jino: yeah, it's possible, but unncessery
[05:55] <jino> okie
[05:55] <jino> okie..
[05:56] <thenuke_> jino: open up a terminal and use sudo and sudo su  commands to run things as a root
[05:56] <toshiba_> Seveas, i don't...? hm.
[05:56] <Seveas> toshiba_, no
[05:56] <imnes> Thorn4 I like ubuntu on my 32 bit machine, but for 64 I prefer the mixed-mode systems, like SuSE / Fedora.
[05:56] <jino> okie..
[05:56] <Seveas> kust remove it and look at the cpu frequency scaling applet :)
[05:56] <Seveas> s/kust/just/
[05:56] <randabis> sudo -s is better to use than sudo su iirc
[05:57] <toshiba_> Seveas, the cpu freq applet didnt really work till i install cpufreqd
[05:57] <Seveas> randabis, sudo -i
[05:57] <jeroen_> thenuke_, jino: sudo -s
[05:57] <theine> Hi, I'm trying to install Ubuntu 5.04 on an G3 Imac, but I cannot boot off the installation CD. I didn't have any trouble booting when I tried out the Ubuntu 5.04 Live-CD. Does anybody know what the problem could be?
[05:57] <jino> temme how to rebiuld grub if i loose tat
[05:57] <toshiba_> Seveas, removed now.. will restart n see.
[05:57] <Seveas> jeroen_, sudo -i
[05:57] <randabis> Seveas: yeah that too :)
[05:57] <imnes> Anybody know if network-manager-gnome is available for ubuntu yet?
[05:58] <Seveas> imnes, only some experimental packages
[05:58] <jino> thanx
[05:58] <jeroen_> Seveas, you're right
[05:58] <Seveas> jeroen_, otherwise i would not say it :) </brag_mode>
[05:58] <imnes> Seveas - you know where I can get them?
[05:58] <davegahan> seveas, what does "cannot overwrite directory..... /.Trash/gnome2 mean ?
[05:58] <Seveas> imnes, search at udu.wiki.ubuntu.com
[05:58] <theine> I burned the installation CD several times with varying speeds by the way, but that didn't help,,,
[06:00] <nalioth> theine: what exactly is happening? the sequence of events please and errors
[06:01] <davegahan> Seves ?
[06:01] <Seveas> davegahan, that means you made an error somewhere
[06:01] <Thorrn4> what exactly will you be changing or adding in the new version of Ubuntu?
[06:02] <Seveas> davegahan, ok, if you don't mind losing settings, lets take drastic measures
[06:02] <Seveas> davegahan, rm -f ~/.gnome* rm ~/.gconf*
[06:02] <davegahan> ok
[06:02] <Seveas> be careful with that, type it over EXACT
[06:02] <davegahan> can I afterwards apt-get gnome again ?
[06:02] <Seveas> davegahan, you will not remove gnome
[06:02] <davegahan> ok
[06:02] <caonex> Seveas, it seems that my initrd that is preinstalled with ubuntu is gone, probably due to the conflict that i have been getting lately with apt-get trying to modify my initrd. Well the image seems to work, but how do i recreate the initrd, mkinitrd 2.6.10-5 should do it?
[06:03] <Seveas> davegahan, rm -rf ~/.gnome* rm -rf ~/.gconf*
[06:03] <SigNagE> right, the OS is picking up my network card
[06:03] <SigNagE> *fianlly*
[06:03] <Bramme> my printer is shared on a comp with windows 2k as 'hpdeskjet', how can i use it in ubuntu ?
[06:03] <davegahan> says cannot remove its a directory
[06:04] <jino> wats gnome?
[06:04] <davegahan> sorry,
[06:04] <davegahan> a typo
[06:04] <theine> nalioth: It doesn't happen anything unfortunatly, the Imac tries to read from the CD in order to boot from it, but nothing really happens. Eventually, after 2 or 3 minutes, the system just stalls
[06:04] <nalioth> theine: did you md5 check the install cd?
[06:04] <jino> wats gnome..?
[06:05] <sol77> Need a little help. How do I shut down the x-server from console mode? The opposite of startx I guess.
[06:05] <Seveas> jino, it's what gives you a GUI
[06:05] <davegahan> ,ok  removed
[06:05] <stjepan> checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[06:05] <theine> nalioth: Yes, I did
[06:05] <Seveas> sol77, sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[06:05] <stjepan> pls help me
[06:05] <stjepan> what is the problem?
[06:05] <nalioth> theine: but the ppc livecd runs, but not the installer
[06:05] <sol77> Seveas - thank you.
[06:05] <jino> thanx
[06:05] <Seveas> stjepan, what are you trying to install?
[06:05] <theine> nalioth: Exactly, that's what puzzling me so much
[06:05] <davegahan> Seveas, I removed
[06:05] <stjepan> compile anjuta
[06:05] <nalioth> theine: did you hold the "c" key or use open firmware?
[06:06] <Seveas> stjepan, it's in the repositories
[06:06] <Seveas> stjepan, you should not compile it yourself
[06:06] <theine> nalioth: "c" key
[06:06] <jino> where are the services in ubuntu? if i clear the gui service..how can i bring it bk?
[06:07] <Seveas> davegahan, ok, next is: rm -f ~/.*authority
[06:07] <stjepan> Seveas, I have used apt-get
[06:07] <Seveas> davegahan, and then retry
[06:07] <nalioth> theine: i suggest burning at a low speed
[06:07] <Seveas> stjepan, so why are you compiling it..?
[06:07] <davegahan> ok
[06:07] <nalioth> theine: sounds like your burn got mungled
[06:07] <stjepan> Seveas, but then I can't make project; there are errors
[06:07] <Seveas> stjepan, then resolve these errors instead of compiling it yoursefl
[06:08] <theine> nalioth: Several times even, but I'll try at even lower speed
[06:08] <Seveas> compiling it yourself will not solve it...
[06:08] <theine> nalioth: Thanks for your time
[06:08] <nalioth> theine: some burners are funny (and so are some readers)
[06:08] <davegahan> no change :( same error
[06:08] <jino> seveas, where are the services window..
[06:08] <Seveas> davegahan, hmmm, it's weird...
[06:08] <stjepan> Seveas, ok,  apt-get install anjuta
[06:08] <davegahan> very frustrating
[06:09] <davegahan> can  make a new install of gnome ?
[06:09] <Seveas> davegahan, last try: rm -f ~/.esd_auth
[06:09] <Seveas> if that doesn't work:
[06:09] <stjepan> Seveas, I have installed anjuta
[06:09] <Seveas> sudo adduser NEW_USER_NAME
[06:09] <davix> is there anyway to setup ubuntu with netinstall?
[06:10] <Seveas> sudo adduser THAT_NEW_USERNAME admin
[06:10] <Seveas> davix, yes
[06:10] <Seveas> it's documented in the wiki
[06:10] <davix> tnx Seveas.
[06:10] <davegahan> no seveas, still the same
[06:11] <Varanger> crimsun: are you here?
[06:11] <Seveas> davegahan, then it's time to create a new user
[06:11] <jino> hey
[06:11] <davegahan> ok
[06:11] <davegahan> how do I do that ?
[06:11] <Seveas> davegahan, suppose the new login name is dave, it would be this:
[06:12] <Seveas> sudo adduser dave
[06:12] <Seveas> sudo adduser dave admin
[06:12] <Seveas> (both the commands)
[06:12] <davix> Seveas i dont meen local net. all i can see is netboot and local net install both thru dhcp. i'm looking for something thru an internet mirror
[06:12] <davegahan> ok
[06:13] <davix> Seveas?
[06:13] <Seveas> davix, hmm, if the mechanisms described on the wiki cannot work in that context, then i have no idea
[06:13] <Seveas> i never did such a thing
[06:13] <davegahan> ok
[06:13] <davix> ok Seveas, tnx :)
[06:13] <davegahan> i am in gnome
[06:13] <davegahan> new user
[06:14] <R3LLIK> hello i have a asus laptop l5d bud i can't get my graphics working good
[06:15] <R3LLIK> my graphics card is fx go 5650
[06:15] <R3LLIK> i tried tutorials on forums bud no succes
[06:15] <davegahan> Seveas how do I proceed now ?
[06:15] <Seveas> davegahan, well, you're in gnome now :)
[06:15] <stjepan> Seveas, anjuta error: ERROR: The Project was not successfully auto generated.
[06:15] <stjepan> Please run autogen.sh manually.
[06:15] <davegahan> yeah, but  need access to my files
[06:15] <weedar> Anyone experienced with wpa_supplicant? It uses the wrong options at boot-up and I want to change it
[06:15] <Seveas> stjepan, ask on the mailing list/forums there are more peple there
[06:15] <davegahan> how can I transfer the home folder to this new user ?
[06:16] <stjepan> ok
[06:16] <davegahan> and then delete the other user ?
[06:16] <davegahan> meaning the user I could not load gnome with
[06:16] <Seveas> davegahan, what is your old username?
[06:16] <Seveas> and what is the new one?
[06:16] <davegahan> peter
[06:16] <davegahan> is my old username
[06:17] <davegahan> peter2
[06:17] <Seveas> davegahan, type this: sudo chown -R peter2:peter2 /home/peter
[06:18] <Seveas> and then use nautilus to transfer the file to your new homedir
[06:18] <davix> how can i burn an iso from console?
[06:18] <Ben_Babcock> When I try to install Ubuntu, my keyboard won't respond when I get to the "Choose a language" screen. It's a Toshiba laptop.
[06:18] <bluefoxicy> ok
[06:18] <bluefoxicy> stupid question
[06:18] <bluefoxicy> but since the CPU is in PROTECTED mode and can't run LONG mode code from i386 ubuntu
[06:18] <bluefoxicy> what the HELL is the point of installing amd64 libs on i386?
[06:19] <davegahan> peter2 is not in sudoers file. this incident will be reported
[06:19] <Seveas> davegahan, hmm, did you run warty and upgrade to hoary?
[06:19] <davegahan> no
[06:20] <davegahan> started with hoary
[06:20] <Seveas> did you do: adduser peter2 admin
[06:20] <davegahan> wiped winows off my drive
[06:20] <nalioth> davegahan: wiping winduhs is a very good start, we'll get you sorted out
[06:21] <davegahan> thanks :)
[06:21] <Seveas> davegahan, did you do: adduser peter2 admin
[06:21] <davegahan> no
[06:21] <Seveas> davegahan, well, login as peter again then
[06:21] <davegahan> just adduser peter2
[06:21] <Seveas> and then do: sudo adduser peter2 admin
[06:21] <davegahan> ok
[06:21] <Seveas> then you can do all the sudo stuff with the new user
[06:22] <davegahan> how do I get back to just the GDM ?
[06:22] <davegahan> rather then rebooting
[06:22] <Seveas> system->log out
[06:22] <davegahan> ok
[06:23] <quickbrownfox> hey. how big a partition does ubuntu need to install?
[06:23] <quickbrownfox> cd version
[06:23] <quickbrownfox> hoary
[06:23] <Seveas> few GB would be nice
[06:23] <quickbrownfox> i had problems with the installation process
[06:23] <Seveas> especially a good swap partition of about the size of your memory
[06:24] <quickbrownfox> i just noticed the 9GB partition i gave it is reporting as full
[06:24] <davegahan> ok done
[06:25] <pinko> you can do with a heck of a lot less than 9
[06:26] <Howitzer> lol
[06:26] <davegahan> ok seveas
[06:26] <Howitzer> i have a 5gb disk and i have plenty space
[06:26] <quickbrownfox> ok might reduce that. just wanted to be on the safe side
[06:26] <davegahan> can I know delete the other user :
[06:27] <Howitzer> with the ubuntu install and kde and a whole package of software, i still have 4gb left
[06:27] <quickbrownfox> i guess i'll try the installation again and if i have the same problem as before i'll report back
[06:27] <zth__> hmm, when i use aoss the sound gets bad quality and like tripple speed! what do i do?
[06:28] <UrbanFo1> when I try to mkfs.msdos /dev/fd0 I get an error
[06:28] <UrbanFo1>  /dev/fd0: Device or resource busy
[06:28] <UrbanFo1> I looked to see if any programs were using it for some odd reason
[06:28] <UrbanFo1> but lsof didn't return anything
[06:28] <Shish> umount /dev/fd0 ?
[06:28] <UrbanFo1> it's not mounted
[06:29] <UrbanFo1> that was my first thought
[06:29] <UrbanFo1> OH
[06:29] <UrbanFo1> nevermind
[06:29] <UrbanFo1> found it
[06:29] <Seveas> davegahan, if you have moved everything you want to keep and you can do sudo as the new user, yes you can delete the old one
[06:29] <davegahan> Seveas, one last question
[06:29] <davegahan> how can I delete the old user ?
[06:30] <thenuke_> rmuser
[06:30] <Seveas> system->administration->users and groups
[06:30] <zth__> hmm, when i use aoss the sound gets bad quality and like tripple speed! what do i do?
[06:31] <davegahan> what I mean, can I copy the home folder of the old user into the new one ?
[06:31] <sol77> Hello again. Am I gonna be screwed if I let the nvidia installer compile a kernel interface? I'm running Hoary 5.04, and have a geforce 6800 GT videocard.
[06:32] <imnes> Anybody know which package provides glib-gettextize?
[06:33] <nickrud> imnes, you can search for it on packages.ubuntu.com
[06:33] <sol77> imnes - try apt-cache search gettextize
[06:34] <Seveas> davegahan, no, then you'' end up with the same problem...
[06:34] <sol77> Any helpers on my problem?? Dare I press "ok"?
[06:34] <dockane> do i need to run a smtdp ?
[06:34] <Seveas> dockane, smtpd you mean: yes
[06:34] <Seveas> cron and apt/pdkg need it
[06:35] <davegahan> I need my mails from evolution :(
[06:35] <davegahan> I need to recuperate those
[06:35] <imnes> sol77 - doesn't return anything
[06:36] <sol77> imnes - ok. Sorry it didn't help. Did you try nickrud's advice?
[06:36] <dimeo> gavegahan Is there a way to get 'into' the database files for evolution?
[06:36] <davegahan> Seveas how can I import my mails from the old user ?
[06:37] <imnes> found it, in libglib-dev
[06:38] <dockane> Seveas, thnx. port 111 is offering rpcbin ? is that neccessary ?
[06:38] <dockane> "rpcbind
[06:38] <Seveas> dockane, yes
[06:39] <xabbu|> is there any good wysiwyg-editor for ubuntu?
[06:39] <Seveas> davegahan, you can try moving /home/peter/.evolution to /home/peter2/.evolution
[06:39] <Seveas> you will have to re-enter the account details though, this folder contains just the mails
[06:39] <Seveas> xabbu|, nvu
[06:39] <xabbu|> Okey
[06:40] <davegahan> could you be so kind to tell me how to do it from terminal ?
[06:40] <nalioth> xabbu|: mozilla-composer is ok
[06:40] <anacron> how can i change that ubuntu loading screen to something else?
[06:40] <_mae> nvu isnt wysiwyg
[06:40] <xabbu|> I'll ceck them out then...
[06:41] <Seveas> davegahan, mv /home/peter/.evolution /home/peter2/.evolution
[06:41] <davegahan> tx
[06:41] <Seveas> anacron, which do you mean, the login screen or the splash right after that?
[06:41] <anacron> Seveas: splash
[06:41] <Seveas> anacron, it's a gconf setting so go to application->system tools->configuration editor
[06:42] <nalioth> _mae: it isnt?
[06:42] <Seveas> and search :D
[06:42] <anacron> Seveas: ok tnx
[06:42] <anacron> AGAIN
[06:42] <Seveas> :)
[06:42] <anacron> this is maybe 100 time?
[06:42] <Seveas> could be ;)
[06:43] <nalioth> Seveas talks more than i do, lol
[06:43] <anacron> i have to give something like lifesaver badge for you
[06:43] <Seveas> muha :)
[06:43] <Seveas> if you create one with the gimp i'll proudly put it on my homepage :)
[06:43] <caonex> i have grub installed and i cannot find grub.conf under /boot/grub/
[06:43] <Seveas> caonex, it's menu.lst
[06:44] <anacron> Seveas: i think inkscape would be better for that
[06:44] <caonex> Seveas, that is what i thought...shoot...thanks
[06:44] <Seveas> caonex, grub.conf is a redhatist
[06:44] <Seveas> caonex, grub.conf is a redhatism
[06:44] <caonex> Seveas, oh i see
[06:44] <dimeo> anyone know why I can't write filenames with spaces to a disk without getting an error message? or how to fix for that matter
[06:44] <Seveas> crappy incompatible distro
[06:44] <Seveas> dimeo, are you trying to do it from a terminal?
[06:44] <dimeo> The desktop can handle files with spaces in the filename
[06:45] <xabbu|> someone intressed in helping me instal nvu-binarys? I have no freckin' idea on how to install it...
[06:45] <dimeo> no using gnome
[06:45] <nalioth> xabbu|: there is a wiki article on it, i believe
[06:45] <xabbu|> Okey, any link?
[06:45] <bpuccio> anyone here run ubuntu on a Via C3 CPU?
[06:45] <nalioth> xabbu|: not sure
[06:46] <klaym> anyone run smtm, gepolabo, qtstalker or some other stock analysis software on Ubuntu? please pm me!
[06:46] <flodine> does muine something to play mp3s
[06:46] <dimeo> seveas just using copy paste to move the files
[06:46] <xabbu|> I know I have done it before. But that was like three years ago...
[06:46] <dimeo> klaym: yea I've been using qtstalker.  it's pretty neat.  I've upgraded to the new version on the qtstalker site
[06:47] <dimeo> klaym not familiar with the others though.
[06:47] <klaym> dimeo: do you have time to help me out a bit installing it ?
[06:47] <flodine> anyone help with muine
[06:47] <dimeo> klaym: I just installed the version from the repositories for ubuntu using synaptic
[06:48] <klaym> oh? I must be missing some repositorie then
[06:48] <klaym> you remember which one has it?
[06:48] <hd420> is there a jetty package?
[06:48] <nalioth> klaym: universe and multiverse give you so many more toys
[06:49] <dimeo> sourceforge has a .deb file for the newer version
[06:49] <flodine> guys muine wont play my mp3s why
[06:49] <hd420> dimeo: thanks, mate
[06:49] <klaym> dimeo: ok. is there something much better in it?
[06:49] <nalioth> dimeo: better to use the repos first b4 goin to outside pkgs
[06:49] <klaym> I'll try that
[06:50] <nalioth> klaym: better to use the repos first b4 goin to outside pkgs
[06:50] <hd420> oh ok, that wasn't to me
[06:50] <klaym> but is a .deb hard to install then? :P
[06:51] <nalioth> klaym: not at all, but ubuntu and the rest of the debian world sometimes dont see eye-to-eye
[06:51] <dimeo> hd420: sorry I meant that for klaym
[06:51] <peter2> Seveas, now i am back on my laptop in ubuntu
[06:51] <ninwa> Would anybody kindly help me with installing ndiswrapper? I'm unfamiliar with ubuntus packaging. I've downloaded the .deb file.
[06:52] <dimeo> klaym: qtstalker has an interesting backtest ability.  Not as good as wealth-lab in the windows world, but still very useful
[06:52] <klaym> what's that?
[06:52] <peter2> Seveas now i am in ubuntu
[06:52] <sol77> how can I tell what kernel I have installed?
[06:52] <toshiba_> Got a Pentium-M, linux 686, but no /cpufreq dir under /proc; How can i fix that?
[06:52] <HappyFool> sol77: uname -r
[06:52] <nalioth> sol77: uname -a
[06:53] <sol77> ty
[06:53] <Seveaz> connection died :S
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[06:53] <Seveaz> toshiba_, cpufreq isn't a dir ;
[06:53] <Seveaz> ;)
[06:54] <toshiba_> hm, ain't it?
[06:54] <peter2> How can I, having created a new user retrieve my evolution, gaim, skype and firefox settings ?
[06:54] <toshiba_> Well, i don't have the cpufreq file, then.
[06:54] <klaym> dimeo: check out Gepolabo. seems very neat. but I can't get it to work (only source available)
[06:54] <drewtm> Can anyone help I've just loaded ubuntu and I am having trouble playing MP3's
[06:54] <klaym> it's made for the Gnome desktop
[06:55] <nalioth> drewtm: www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[06:56] <HappyFool> toshiba_: just to make sure, the full name is /proc/cpufreq (you had '/cpufreq' earlier)
[06:56] <SigNagE> can someone help me set up my wireless connection?
[06:56] <drewtm> nalioth: will I find the correct plugin there
[06:56] <toshiba_> HappyFool, yes.. cat: /proc/cpufreq: No such file or directory
[06:56] <nalioth> drewtm: reading tha page will give you access to all kindz of new toys
[06:57] <ninwa>  GPG error: http://http.us.debian.org stable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F1D53D8C4F368D5D - I get this when running apt-get update , anyone know why?
[06:57] <drewtm> Thank you very much and have a great day
[06:57] <dr_willis> you got some repositories that you dont have the vailid key for - perhaps.
[06:58] <sol77> Could anyone tell me if I'm wasting time trying to install the latest drivers from Nvidia, or if it will be a noticeable improvment from the ones that come with Hoary? I'm using a Geforce 6800 GT videocard as mentioned earlier.
[06:58] <nalioth> ninwa: because they have not provideda gpg key
[06:58] <peter2> I have copied the settings from my old homefolder into the new one
[06:58] <dr_willis> but that seems MORE like the guy making the package hasent signed the package right.
[06:58] <HappyFool> ninwa: why do you have debian.org sources ?
[06:58] <ninwa> I'm not sure, I just installed now, how can I fix it?
[06:58] <peter2> gaim, firefox and evolution do not seem to be aware of that
[06:58] <ninwa> I am trying to install ndiswrappers, and dselect must've helped me do that... use debians sources on accident, how can I fix it?
[06:59] <dr_willis> hmm.. oh yea.. useing the debian repositories - is not a good idea. :()
[06:59] <ninwa> well I havnt installed anything from them yet
[06:59] <HappyFool> ninwa: i don't know dselect
[06:59] <dennis> Hello.
[06:59] <squirrelkiller> I can't play a DVD on a new install, is there somewhere to look?
[06:59] <HappyFool> ninwa: one way is to edit /etc/apt/sources.list, commenting out debian.org related lines (comments are anything starting with a '#')
[06:59] <nalioth> squirrelkiller: www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[06:59] <flodine> guys muine wont play my mp3s why
[06:59] <flodine> help
[06:59] <dr_willis> squirrelkiller,  thats normal. and theres reasons for it. :P  check nalioth  url.
[06:59] <dennis> I've been working on getting mp3s to play for about the last week and for some reason I can not get it to...can someone help me set it up :(
[07:00] <dr_willis> flodine,  check tht url nalioth  posted.
[07:00] <squirrelkiller> thanks
[07:00] <nalioth> dennis: www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[07:00] <ninwa> whats the url for the ubunto repository?
[07:00] <dennis> I've done that already
[07:00] <dr_willis> lets all go there. :P
[07:00] <dr_willis> lol
[07:00] <dennis> You don't remember me nalioth ....
[07:00] <kafeine> mm
[07:00] <kafeine> anyone else having troubles with libcairo lately?
[07:00] <kafeine> specifically, updating it
[07:00] <dennis___> I've done all the restricted library shit ....
[07:01] <nalioth> dennis___: ya got universe and multiverse enabled?
[07:01] <dennis___> and installed plugins for gstreamer
[07:01] <HappyFool> ninwa: it's archive.ubuntu.com -- but you should have those already!
[07:01] <dennis___> Yeah
[07:01] <Howitzer> does anybody know of a good nautilus/konqueror alike file browser?
[07:01] <flodine> dr_willis url nalioth
[07:01] <nalioth> Howitzer: try xffm
[07:01] <kafeine> Howitzer, what is the problem with nautilus/konqueror? :)
[07:01] <dennis___> nalioth, yes tehey are
[07:02] <Howitzer> nautilus is crappy and konqueror freezes and uses 160mb of RAM as soon as it has to open a folder
[07:02] <nalioth> dennis___: and ya got all the gstreamer plugins installed?
[07:02] <peter2> can some help me explaining to copy settings from one user to another ?
[07:03] <dennis___> nalioth, yup
[07:03] <HappyFool> peter2: it might be easier to resetup, and only copy selected things (like mail, bookmarks)
[07:03] <peter2> my mailbox from evolution, bookmarks in firefox, accounts in gaim ?
[07:03] <nalioth> dennis___: then i'm not sure
[07:03] <peter2> i have done that
[07:04] <HappyFool> peter2: ok, firefox bookmarks are easy
[07:04] <dennis___> nalioth, it plays streams over rhytmnbox but not mp3s :/
[07:04] <peter2> copied the .evolution, the .firefox, the .skype etc...
[07:04] <peter2> pls help me out
[07:04] <HappyFool> peter2: hm
[07:05] <nalioth> dennis___: if u hv gstreamer0.8-mad installed, it should work
[07:05] <peter2> so when i go to the ./firefox, the ./gaim etc... all settings are there
[07:05] <HappyFool> peter2: bookmarks are in ~/.mozilla/firefox/<randomcrap>.default/bookmarks.html
[07:05] <dennis___> nalioth, should I just do a clean install?
[07:05] <peter2> but the programs behave like they are newly installed
[07:05] <flodine> can someone tell me if i get a black screen after installing nvidia drives what do i do
[07:05] <dennis___> I have nothing important on this right now anyway
[07:05] <nalioth> dennis___: oh no
[07:06] <nalioth> dennis___: this can be resolved
[07:06] <dennis___> Okay...
[07:06] <HappyFool> peter2: i would quit firefox, erase ~/.mozilla, then restart and quit firefox again
[07:06] <Howitzer> nalioth, apt-cache search doesn't find anything for xffm ?
[07:06] <HappyFool> peter2: that will create a new firefox profile dir
[07:06] <ninwa> the ndiswrapper guide for ubuntu on the ndiswrapper site says that ndiswrapper-utils is included with ubuntu, for me only ndiswrapper-source was, how can I install from that?
[07:06] <signius> is there a list of features and fixes i can read that breezy is going to contain ?
[07:06] <nalioth> Howitzer: try xffm4
[07:06] <Howitzer> okay ty
[07:07] <Howitzer> the same
[07:07] <Howitzer> doesn't find anything
[07:07] <HappyFool> peter2: then, copy the file from /home/olduser/.mozilla/firefox/<stuff>.profile/bookmarks.html to /home/newuser/.mozilla/firefox/<differentrandomstuff>.profile/
[07:07] <nalioth> Howitzer: weird
[07:07] <HappyFool> peter2: that will be your bookmarks
[07:07] <nalioth> Howitzer: try "xffm" in a terminal
[07:07] <jaysinn> people, I have UBUNTU running on a virtual VMWARE machine.  When attempting to install KuBUNTU I recieve this: http://pastebin.ca/14120
[07:07] <Howitzer> adrian@ubuntu:~$ xffm
[07:07] <Howitzer> bash: xffm: command not found
[07:08] <jaysinn> any answers would be greatly appreciated
[07:08] <nalioth> Howitzer: that is weird
[07:08] <HappyFool> peter2: for mail, i'd use evolution's import feature (it does have one, if i recall correctly)
[07:08] <HappyFool> peter2: and for gaim, i dunno. re-entering all the info is what i'd do
[07:09] <peter2> ok
[07:09] <peter2> it is a pitty it wont go automatically
[07:09] <Howitzer> for now, i'll just use nautilus with KDE, but i really want a solution to that nasty Konqueror problem :x
[07:09] <HappyFool> peter2: it's probably possible, but i don't know how to do it. you are welcome to experiment ;)
[07:09] <peter2> i copied the firefox bookmarks but they do not appear automatically
[07:10] <HappyFool> was firefox running when you did it?
[07:10] <peter2> no
[07:10] <HappyFool> hrm
[07:10] <SigNagE> can someone help me set up my wireless connection?
[07:11] <HappyFool> peter2: what's the output of 'ls .mozilla/firefox' ?  (don't paste if it's more than two lines)
[07:12] <mh> Hello, my suspend to disk doesnt work properly, the computer doesnt shut down, it seems like suspend to ram
[07:12] <peter2> nmz8yjst.default  pluginreg.dat  profiles.ini
[07:13] <HappyFool> ok, and you put bookmarks.html in  nmz8yjst.default ?
[07:13] <peter2> all old settings are in the nmz8yjst.default folder
[07:13] <peter2> yes
[07:13] <HappyFool> no
[07:13] <HappyFool> sorry, hang on
[07:13] <HappyFool> is that what it's called in your old home dir too? i mean, nmz8yjst.default ?
[07:14] <peter2> i am checking
[07:14] <HappyFool> err
[07:14] <HappyFool> if you don't know, it probably isn't ;)
[07:15] <peter2> no i renamed it to firefox like in the old one now
[07:15] <peter2> lets check
[07:15] <acidspoon> how can i convert *.bin to deb?
[07:15] <HappyFool> peter2: renamed it to firefox ?
[07:15] <aureus> Hi I have a wuestion
[07:15] <peter2> yes
[07:15] <peter2> let me restart gnome
[07:15] <HappyFool> peter2: it *has* to be in ~/.mozilla/firefox/<blahblah>
[07:15] <HappyFool> aargh
[07:16] <signius> wow i think the laptop missions ubuntu have set themselves is very ambitious. while it is a very nice idea it does seem a mamoth task
[07:16] <aureus> Does the Netgear Wg111 or the SIEMENS WLAN Adapter 54 work with ubuntu?
[07:16] <dimeo> K I'm still stuck. don't know how this happened, but everything I install or uninstall with synaptic gives me this error:  E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libgnomedb2-3_1.1.99-1ubuntu4_i386.deb:  files list file for package `libgnomedb2-common' is missing final newline
[07:17] <aureus> Is that working?
[07:17] <peter2> back
[07:17] <HappyFool> aureus: tried using google to find out?
[07:17] <HappyFool> peter2: what did you rename to firefox ?
[07:18] <aureus> HappyFool: yes...
[07:18] <peter2> the folder that contains all settings
[07:18] <_mae> anyone getting something like this trying to upgrade to breezy... Failed to fetch ftp://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdemultimedia/kmid_3.4.1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[07:19] <peter2> now the problem is that i get the message "profile in use"
[07:19] <peter2> it asks me to choose a profile
[07:19] <HappyFool> _mae: us archive is broken
[07:19] <peter2> I cannot use my old profile because it is in "use"
[07:19] <HappyFool> peter2: i'm still not sure what you renamed to 'firefox'; the path needs to be '~/.mozilla/firefox/<stuff>.profile'
[07:20] <signius> oooh Netgear Wg111 is a udb wireless card usb wireless is nasty in my view
[07:20] <SigNagE> can someone help me set up my wireless connection?
[07:20] <peter2> i made an exact copy of the ./firefox folder in my old user
[07:20] <dimeo> anyone know how to fix this "missing final newline" error?  I can't remove or install the package
[07:20] <_mae> grreat
[07:20] <dimeo> signagE what card are you using?
[07:20] <SigNagE> dimeo, i have the card working, i just cant get the connection up
[07:20] <HappyFool> peter2: what's a 'firefox' folder -- do you mean ~/.mozilla/firefox' ?
[07:21] <HappyFool> _mae: do you know how to change which mirror you use ?
[07:21] <peter2> it is the folder that contains my settings
[07:21] <bodaicousb> is there something wrong witht he apt program?
[07:21] <signius> SigNagE have you set the encryption keys and DHCP etc in the wireles configuration ?
[07:21] <_mae> HappyFool: heh what is an alternative to us, uk?
[07:22] <xabbu|> I have a feeling nvu isn'
[07:22] <bodaicousb> or is it jsut me getting md5 sum mismatch, one after the toher
[07:22] <xabbu|> t really my friend
[07:22] <HappyFool> _mae: yeah, or just archive.ubuntu.com
[07:22] <peter2> it keeps on saying that profile is "in use"
[07:22] <JDahl> bodaicousb, maybe it has to do with the topic?
[07:22] <HappyFool> _mae: you can change it in /etc/apt/sources.list -- change us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com
[07:22] <SigNagE> signius, im trying. i was hoping someone could help me in a pm with it.
[07:22] <HappyFool> _mae: it may be necessary to change it in several places
[07:22] <xabbu|> I have had it installed for like 15 minutes and it has crashed three times and spoiled my work...
[07:22] <pinko> i have a question
[07:23] <pinko> will a sealed container of sour cream last 13 hours unrefrigerated
[07:23] <peter2> anybody that can help me in copying settings from one user to another please ?
[07:23] <bodaicousb> JDahl, no im on hoary
[07:23] <_mae> HappyFool: ok i changed sources.list and am doing an update
[07:23] <sproingie> pinko: what's it going to do, get more sour?
[07:23] <HappyFool> peter2: unless i am much mistaken, you cannot choose the name of your firefox folder ;), it *has* to be ~/mozilla/.firefox/<etc>
[07:23] <_mae> HappyFool: thanks for your help
[07:24] <HappyFool> err, ~/.mozilla/firefox, that is
[07:24] <pinko> ...that is a very good point
[07:24] <sproingie> i make creme fraische leaving the stuff out for 24 hours.  13 ain't gonna hurt :)
[07:24] <pinko> I am worrying over nothing, probably.
[07:24] <peter2> well let me copy the file again
[07:24] <peter2> the folder sorry
[07:25] <Zzzippo> can someone please help me?
[07:25] <HappyFool> peter2: if i were you, i'd only copy bookmarks.html, but ok
[07:25] <peter2> i know they are there but...
[07:26] <HappyFool> pinko: http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a4_162.html
[07:26] <peter2> ok now it works :)
[07:26] <peter2> lets try gaim now
[07:27] <bodaicousb> both apt-get and synaptic throw md5sum errors when trying to download a package, anyone know why?
[07:27] <HappyFool> bodaicousb: us archives are broken
[07:27] <Zzzippo> trying to install ubuntu on a dell inspiron 8100 with linksys NP100 pcmcia ethernet and Linksys WPC11 pcmcia Wireless ethernet cards.  Installer not seeing either ;(
[07:27] <HappyFool> bodaicousb: see my msgs to _mae earlier
[07:27] <bodaicousb> HappyFool, so its no problem with my machine then?
[07:27] <dimeo> zzzippo you might need an ndiswrapper
[07:28] <HappyFool> bodaicousb: anything is possible
[07:28] <bodaicousb> HappyFool, ok
[07:28] <bodaicousb> HappyFool, thank you
[07:28] <HappyFool> bodaicousb: but, if you use us.archive.ubuntu.com, i suspect your machine is ok ;)
[07:29] <Zzzippo> dimeo:yes for the wireless card but the wired card should work....it does with mandrake
[07:29] <bodaicousb> HappyFool, i use 3 of them =P
[07:29] <peter2> where is evolution saving all mail data ?
[07:29] <HappyFool> peter2: look in ~/Mail
[07:29] <flodine> can someone tell me if i get a black screen after installing nvidia drives what do i do
[07:30] <Zzzippo> i just need one to work (im assuming the wired would be easiest) so i can get the other to work.....but going to be a pita w/ an internet connection
[07:30] <peter2> ok
[07:30] <peter2> now ?
[07:30] <Zzzippo> err w/o
[07:31] <flodine> nvidia making me mad
[07:31] <zth__> my audacity can't play or record anything at all, i've enabled the dmix plugin for alsa so i have no clue why it tells me there's no audio i/o availible
[07:31] <klaym> how do I uninstall a deb package that I've installed with 'dpkg -i package.deb' ?
[07:31] <HappyFool> peter2: is there anything there?
[07:31] <zth__> klaym, dpkg -r name
[07:31] <peter2> sure lots of files
[07:31] <swj11> has anyone used Tilp before? just just wondering if its safe? thanks
[07:31] <klaym> zth__: thanks
[07:31] <zth__> klaym, use dpkg --help
[07:31] <bodaicousb> anyone know of  alinux web-page maker similar to frontpage?
[07:31] <anon> how does the live cd work without hurting windows
[07:32] <peter2> but the files seem like.... way too small
[07:32] <quam> anon: it boots from the cd, everything's loaded into memory
[07:32] <zth__> anon, yes, it loads straight from the cd
[07:32] <kafeine> W:    http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libc/libcairo/libcairo1_0.3.0-1_i386.deb
[07:32] <kafeine>   MD5Sum mismatch
[07:32] <HappyFool> peter2: hrm. ok, i see there's a .evolution/mail too
[07:32] <kafeine> any ideas?
[07:32] <zth__> bodaicousb, try emulating frontpage with wine
[07:32] <anon> so it doesnt even use windows
[07:32] <quam> kafeine change your repositories to archive.ubuntu.com instead of us.archive.ubuntu.com
[07:32] <quam> the us repositories are fucked up
[07:32] <HappyFool> kafeine: US archives are broken; change us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:32] <kafeine> quam, thank you
[07:32] <peter2> what is the other "mail" ?
[07:33] <bodaicousb> zth__, ive considerd that, but i really would like to be 100% linux native.... im converting still =)
[07:33] <HappyFool> peter2: what happens if you just copy .evolution across ?
[07:33] <pinko> thanks for the cecil, happyfool.  I wish he'd been more quantitative, but my fears are mostly calmed
[07:33] <HappyFool> pinko: did you go to the front page. serious ick
[07:33] <peter2> thats what i did, no result
[07:33] <zth__> bodaicousb, hmm, I use bluefish or dreamweaver when i make webs.. i emulate dreamweaver, and bluefish isn't WYSIWYG
[07:33] <peter2> gaim i did too, no result
[07:34] <Th4tBa5t4rd> hmm. alright does anyone know how to change the port settings on gnome bittorrent? i still haven't managed to get the Battlefield 2 demo yet
[07:34] <abbot45> i need to take all my evolution info (contacts, calender dates, tasks) to another computer.  i figured out how to make a vcard of my contacts.  what do i need to do with the other stuff?  can anyone help me?
[07:35] <quam> bastard: yeah i dunno what's going on with gnometorrent, doesnt work for me :P
[07:35] <xolotl_> Ubuntu blocks all non esd capable apps from working???  what the heck is up with that.  Almost reason right there for me to use a different distro.  Anyone got any ideas how to fix this reasonably quickly to enable ALSA for instance?
[07:35] <bodaicousb> zth__, ok, thanks for the info
[07:35] <pinko> I see.  nice illustration.
[07:35] <quam> xolo: alsaconf
[07:35] <zth__> bodaicousb, no problemo, try searching www.google.com/linux for "WYSIWYG web editor" or something and you might find sumthing
[07:35] <xolotl_> quam: just run it or is there something more specific?
[07:35] <Seveaz> xolotl_, system->preferences->sound
[07:35] <Th4tBa5t4rd> Gnome Bittorrent works, but my usual track brocks the default BT ports
[07:35] <quam> :P
[07:36] <bodaicousb> zth__, will do
[07:36] <Seveaz> make sure enable sound server startup is off
[07:36] <peter2> happyfool is there a mailfolder elsewhere ? I need access to my old mail files
[07:36] <HappyFool> peter2: hmm. how about copying the Mail directory across too ? (this is for evolution, obviously)
[07:36] <`anti> i installed apache+php and mysql. apache and php work fine but when i try to run phpmyadmin it says it couln't load the mysql extension
[07:36] <Corvus> did anyone had problems when installing hoary about unreadable file in the cd ?
[07:36] <pinko> I guess a column on unfiltered fact can't afford to be heavily censored for other sorts of content either
[07:36] <dimeo> anyone know how to fix this? almost every apt-get remove or install results in this error "files list file for package `libgnomedb2-common' is missing final newline"
[07:36] <peter2> where is that Mail directory ?
[07:36] <HappyFool> peter2: right in home
[07:36] <HappyFool> /home/username/Mail
[07:37] <peter2> ok
[07:37] <Th4tBa5t4rd> meh. i'll just get bit toranado
[07:37] <Demitar> `anti, php4-mysql - MySQL module for php4, php3-mysql - Mysql module for PHP3 (use with php3)
[07:37] <peter2> .mail ?
[07:37] <peter2> or mail
[07:38] <HappyFool> peter2: no, Mail, exactly like that (first letter capitalized)
[07:38] <`anti> Demitar i searched for it with sudo apt-cache search php4-mysql but it didn't find that package
[07:38] <bodaicousb> zth__, i found one that looks pretty good, download the package nvu to check it out
[07:39] <peter2> no i dont have such folder
[07:39] <abbot45> peter2 ~/.evolution/mail  is that what you are talking about HappyFool?
[07:39] <peter2> gee in a panic now
[07:39] <peter2> yes
[07:39] <HappyFool> peter2: hrm
[07:39] <peter2> copied .evolution from old user to new user
[07:39] <peter2> but can't find my old mails
[07:39] <paroxetine> can someone help? i am having trouble installing applications via apt. i am getting "MD5Sum mismatch" errors.
[07:39] <peter2> seeking to transfer settings of evolution, gaim etc...
[07:39] <Demitar> `anti, it's probably in universe then ( http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UniversePackages ).
[07:39] <`anti> tnx
[07:40] <peter2> and i am sweating here for my old mails
[07:40] <HappyFool> paroxetine: US archives are broken; change us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:40] <paroxetine> HappyFool, thank you
[07:40] <abbot45> peter2.  yeah, thats what im trying to do too.  when you copied your .evolution folder did it copy your calender events and tasks?
[07:40] <peter2> did not seem to copy them
[07:41] <peter2> its like I have to start evolution from scratch...
[07:41] <peter2> i just want the whole thing to move from one user to another
[07:41] <abbot45> peter2, i dont have evolution set up to store my emails localy, so all my stuff is kept server side.  i cant really help ya.
[07:41] <peter2> seems even my normal mail box is not there
[07:42] <Hablandocontigo> How can I install win32 codecs on Ubuntu? I was pointed to documentation, but I can't find it
[07:42] <HappyFool> peter2: this might be useful: http://www.silug.org/lists/silug-discuss/200306/msg00049.html
[07:43] <Hablandocontigo> nevermind I found it: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingCodecsToTotemHowTo
[07:43] <paroxetine> Hablandocontigo, this is also useful: http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[07:43] <HappyFool> peter2: it looks like the mail is all stored in ~/.evolution/mail/local
[07:44] <peter2> let me checl
[07:44] <HappyFool> peter2: e.g., take a look at ~/.evolution/mail/local/Inbox -- e.g., 'less ~/.evolution/mail/local/Inbox'
[07:44] <imnes> Anybody know of any dhcbdb packages for ubuntu / debian?
[07:45] <paroxetine> hmm... i am getting multiple errors when running apt-get update
[07:45] <peter2> that file is only 27KB
[07:45] <paroxetine> applications are installing ok though
[07:45] <paroxetine> should i ignore the errors?
[07:45] <peter2> impossible as i have huge amounts of mail
[07:45] <HappyFool> peter2: that was just an example
[07:45] <HappyFool> peter2: there are presumably other files in that directory
[07:45] <HappyFool> peter2: unless you left all your mail in your inbox
[07:47] <ninwa> HappyFool, I fixed my issue, mostly, anyhow. And I have ndiswrapper installed, but it seems not to want to work with my wireless pcmia card, even though I dont seem to get any errors.
[07:47] <dooglus> peter2: do a "du -k ~/.evolution" - does it show a suitably big number at the end?
[07:47] <peter2> let me check
[07:48] <dooglus> peter2: I have never really used evolution - I have maybe 1 email, and that "du -k" shows that ~/.evolution is using 677 kb
[07:48] <peter2> i have a long list of files
[07:48] <klaym> is it right that to upgrade from Warty to Hoary, you only need to change all references of Warty to Hoary in the sources.list, and then run apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade?
[07:48] <dooglus> it looks like maybe evolution is *really* inefficient with its disk usage
[07:48] <dooglus> peter2: the last line shows the sum of all of them
[07:48] <Web-Designer> I have some questions regarding installation and versions.  Can Ubuntu and Debian be used in the enterprise area?  Or do I need to stay with something like Suse or Red Hat?
[07:49] <dimeo> wow, there are like tons of posted message on forums for this "newline" problem and none have any fixes posted.... weird
[07:49] <peter2> its a big number
[07:49] <HappyFool> Web-Designer: what do you mean by 'enterprise area' ?
[07:49] <sproingie> awww damn, just discovered vimacs
[07:49] <sproingie> vi is actually usable now!
[07:49] <Web-Designer> I want to be able to install servers and upload things to the net.
[07:49] <quam> liar
[07:49] <quam> vi will never be usable
[07:49] <quam> :P
[07:50] <toshiba_> Should /proc/cpufreq exist under a laptop (pentium-M) environment, or is /proc/cpuinfo the same?
[07:50] <sproingie> vimacs gives insert mode emacs keybindings
[07:50] <HappyFool> Web-Designer: you can easily install apache and samba, amongst many others
[07:50] <Web-Designer> I am new to Linux and am learning it.  I have decided to switch over to the Open Source Crowd.  Speaking of open source, does anyone know when and where the Open Source Convention is going to be?  I thought it was going to be in Portland, Or in August.
[07:50] <dooglus> peter2: go to ~/.evolution/mail and run "du -k" again - you see your folders mentioned?
[07:50] <sproingie> including incremental search
[07:51] <Burgundavia> Web-Designer, portland, end of july
[07:51] <HappyFool> toshiba_: no. i have both files, and cpufreq just has this line: '          minimum CPU frequency  -  maximum CPU frequency  -  policy'
[07:51] <peter2> i see folders yeah
[07:51] <stianh> Hello
[07:51] <Web-Designer> Do you know the date, time, and itinerary?  Is it free and open to the public in Portland Oregon?
[07:51] <dooglus> sproingie: if you use "vip-mode" in GNU Emacs, you get Emacs bindings in insert mode, along with all the other Emacs goodies too
[07:52] <dimeo> what can I do to remove a package if apt-get won't do the remove command?
[07:52] <peter2> sweating here...
[07:52] <flodine> nvidia black screen help
[07:52] <toshiba_> HappyFool, aighties.
[07:52] <flodine> why
[07:52] <flodine> please
[07:52] <sproingie> dooglus: i use xemacs, i just hate waiting for it to load
[07:53] <caonex> i have eth1 and network-admin says that is active and that is obtaining from dhcp; however, it is not active ifconfig says it has errors, what can i do?
[07:53] <Burgundavia> Web-Designer, it is not free, and here is the website: http://conferences.oreillynet.com/os2005/
[07:53] <HappyFool> flodine: take a look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log -- maybe there's an error message
[07:53] <Web-Designer> Bergundavia>What date is the open source? and Where is it located at in Portland?
[07:53] <stianh> Hey you guys, I was just at my sisters place and spent a few hours playing with Mac OS X, and LOVED it. And I was wondering if there's a guide out there to get my Gnome(or KDE) to behave and look as much like Mac OS X as possible?
[07:53] <sproingie> fsfmacs certainly loads faster, but i have a lot of code for xemacs, uses stuff like extents
[07:53] <dooglus> sproingie: how often do you load it?  I load Emacs as often as I boot Linux.  Of the two, Emacs boots faster.
[07:53] <toshiba_> What do you guys recommand? CPUDyn or CPUFreqd?
[07:53] <quam> stianh: traitor :P
[07:53] <sproingie> stianh: there are skins, but you'll find it to be kind of a cheap plastic imitation
[07:53] <dimeo> stianh wait till apple is totally ported to intel, then install their new os
[07:53] <Web-Designer> Bergundavia> You out there?
[07:53] <klaym> ok I've done changing the sources.list to refer only to Hoary, I've updated and dist-upgraded. Nothing has changed. Should I see a difference?
[07:53] <kbrooks> a bot's here
[07:54] <Burgundavia> Web-Designer, the website will tell you everything. I went last year, is quite a lot of fun
[07:54] <stianh> yeah I want to buy a mac, but until I can afford it, I'll wanna try to make my linux look lake os x :P
[07:54] <kbrooks> and it pms a link to everyone who joins
[07:54] <sproingie> dooglus: i'm thinking more of the systems where i only have vi to work with.  easy enough to copy the vimacs stuff over, emacs not quite so
[07:54] <kbrooks> dennis, do you get a PM from pervin_?
[07:54] <Zzzippo> the dang install never asked for a root password.......how am i gonna log in as root to get my ethernet working?
[07:54] <dennis> can anyone tell me the command to install X window System header files and libraries?
[07:54] <stianh> quam, well, I will still be using linux ;)
[07:55] <jbroome> Zzzippo: the first user account you added has sudo rights.
[07:55] <HappyFool> Zzzippo: the root account is disabled by default; use 'sudo <command>' with your user password
[07:55] <sproingie> now i just bind ^x^a to rsync the current buffer to a host i have hardwired in
[07:56] <sproingie> tramp rsync method is useless since it still wants to open a session with telnet or ssh
[07:56] <Z0l_> hello
[07:56] <Z0l_> anyone tried gnome-bluetooth under hoary? i can't send to my computer from my mobile, becouse it doesn't find the comp
[07:57] <Web-Designer> I found the website.
[07:57] <peter2> dooglus ?
[07:57] <userx> checking for jpeg_set_defaults in -ljpeg... no
[07:57] <userx> configure: error: "cannot find libjpeg support"
[07:57] <userx> configure: error: /bin/sh './configure' failed for prnt/hpijs   ? :(
[07:57] <dooglus> peter2: yeah?
[07:57] <Ben_Babcock> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my Toshiba laptop, but when I get to the "Choose a Language" screen, it doesn't respond to my keyboard input anymore.
[07:57] <bpuccio> Z0l_: I have used gnome-bluetooth
[07:57] <peter2> I guess i am f*ckd  no ? Cant seem to retrieve my old settings
[07:57] <HappyFool> dennis: install libx11-dev or xlibs-dev (i think the latter is more all-encompassing)
[07:58] <dooglus> peter2: I didn't see the start of your problem, I've been away from the keyboard for 5 days.  Let me scroll back.
[07:58] <bpuccio> Z0l_: if you wait one second, I'll try to rerun through the steps I went through to send my pictures to my computer
[07:58] <Z0l_> bpuccio: of course, thanks
[07:58] <peter2> i made a new user
[07:59] <peter2> and i want to copy the settings from the old one to the new one
[07:59] <peter2> managed firefox already
[07:59] <peter2> now working on evolution
[07:59] <bpuccio> Z0l_: ok, first, do you have an entry in your applications menu under system tools called "Bluetooth File Sharing"?
[07:59] <caonex> how can you know whenever a device has the right driver or module in the kernel? i have a nic eth1 and it seems not to be installed but network-adim can modified so that contradicts my thoughts, however ifconfig says that it has errors, and cannot browse internet, ideas?
[08:00] <Z0l_> bpuccio: yes
[08:00] <caonex> i have also selected eth1 as default gw
[08:00] <bpuccio> ok, if you start then and then send to your phone, it doesn't work?
[08:00] <Z0l_> bpuccio: i use bluetooth to connect to the internet via my phone (gprs) that works too
[08:00] <dooglus> peter2: ok...
[08:00] <dooglus> peter2: can you still access the email using evolution as the old user?
[08:01] <peter2> thats the problem
[08:01] <bpuccio> Z0l_: that's very odd, I use it for GPRS as well and I got the file sending working before I got GPRS up, one second, let me look some command line thing up
[08:01] <peter2> gnome crashed at the old user and no way to repair it
[08:01] <peter2> could not even log in
[08:01] <bpuccio> Z0l_: you set the pin and all that stuff already, right?
[08:01] <peter2> so created a new user
[08:01] <peter2> and copy settings one by one
[08:01] <Web-Designer> Open source conference is August 1-5th in Portland.  Last years conference was the end of July see --> http://conferences.oreillynet.com/
[08:02] <Z0l_> bpuccio: yes
[08:02] <Z0l_> bpuccio: my problem is, that the phone doesn't find the computer
[08:02] <bpuccio> Z0l_: that's odd, my phone found my computer right away
[08:02] <bpuccio> for me, I had to fiddle with my phone, Z0l_
[08:02] <Z0l_> yeah, that's what i found on the net also
[08:02] <bpuccio> what kind of phone do you have Z0l_
[08:02] <jbroome> sprint has the BT so crippled on my phone i can't do much but use a bt headset
[08:02] <Z0l_> bpuccio: nokia 6230
[08:02] <dooglus> peter2: what if you run GNOME as the new user, but then "su" to the old user and run evolution from the command line as the old user?  does that get you back to your mail?
[08:03] <bpuccio> Z0l_: ok, I have a sony ericson T610
[08:03] <bpuccio> hmmmmmm
[08:03] <Z0l_> bpuccio: i don't know why is my computer invisible
[08:03] <Z0l_> we tried to find it by another 6230, but it doesn't find it either
[08:03] <bpuccio> Z0l_: for me, I had to add a device first in my phone
[08:03] <Z0l_> bpuccio: that's ok, i have it in my phone
[08:04] <peter2> i just copied through the command line the .evolution folder to the new home folder
[08:04] <Hablandocontigo> Can someone describe the backports mirror at mirrormax.net?
[08:04] <Z0l_> bpuccio: but when i select a picture from the phone and try to send it via bluetooth, it searches for nearby bluetooth devices and doesn't find anyithing
[08:05] <bpuccio> Z0l_: I'm guessing then for some reason the "services offered" by your computer doesn't include the OBEX file send thingy
[08:05] <dooglus> if I use "sudo aptitude dist-upgrade", it tells me that openoffice.org needs to be installed.  but I don't want it - it's far too big for my needs.  how can I tell aptitude that I removed it 'cos I don't like it, and don't want it back?
[08:05] <bpuccio> Z0l_: maybe this link helps:  http://www.niemueller.de/wiki/index.php?NokiaCopyViaBluetooth
[08:05] <Z0l_> bpuccio: but why, sdpd and hcid are running
[08:06] <dooglus> peter2: I understand what you did.  It sounds like it didn't work.  What if you run Gnome as the new user, then run a terminal window, then "su" to the old user, and then run evolution, from the 'su'ed' window, as the old user?
[08:06] <Z0l_> i also entered "sdptool add OPUSH" manually
[08:06] <paxmaster> hi there i am having trouble with Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libs/libsndfile/libsndfile1_1.0.10-2_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[08:06] <Z0l_> well, i might try adding another rcomm binding into rfcomm.conf
[08:06] <peter2> could you help me a bit more on how to do that exactly ?
[08:07] <abarbaccia> hey anybody here familiar with xmame - i want to install it but im not sure if i should go with VGA, SDL, or X
[08:07] <dooglus> peter2, you know how to make a terminal window?
[08:07] <bpuccio> Z0l_: I'm not sure why... do you by any chance have the package "obexserver" installed
[08:07] <signius> how the hell do youe xit out of festival ?
[08:08] <Z0l_> bpuccio: yes
[08:08] <dooglus> peter2: in the terminal window, type "su peter1" (where 'peter1' is the name of the old account - the one which broke)
[08:08] <bpuccio> Z0l_: to be honest, I just got my bluetooth card the other day and just got on the internet with it last night, so all of this BT stuff to me is not very familiar
[08:08] <dooglus> peter2: at the password prompt, type peter1's password
[08:23] (Seveas/#ubuntu) hmm, nvm
[08:23] (Seveas/#ubuntu) Seveas, start reading ...
[08:23] (vladuz976/#ubuntu) anybody know how to change wm in ubuntu
[08:23] (Zzzippo/#ubuntu) i also have a linksys wpc11 wireless card which i have yet to get any linux to work with
[08:24] (valzaq/#ubuntu) is the hoary a beta?
[08:24] <Seveas> no
[08:24] <jbroome> Zzzippo: here's something freaky: sarge or ubuntu wouldn't see these nics, but i booted DSL, and it saw them fine.
[08:24] <mcking> Zzzippo, is it the pcmcia one?
[08:24] <Seveas> hoary is the current stable release
[08:24] <tsume> holy...
[08:24] <MeMePeLLe> any program to record Gnome desktop activities, like camstudio for winsucks??
[08:24] <Zzzippo> both are pcmcia
[08:24] <tsume> MacOSX X86 Server.iso... on donkey
[08:24] <Zzzippo> one is a wired card the other wireless
[08:24] <tsume> leaked MacOSX X86 version :) I bet apple did it intentionally
[08:25] <floo> I'm having problems with firefox.  It keeps freezing the system or crashing.  also text tyoed in the addrss bar is taking about 3 seconds to appear.... Help!!!  It's driving me mad!
[08:25] <Zzzippo> i know i prolly need ndiswrapper for the wireless
[08:25] <valzaq> then why doesn't it recognize nat?
[08:25] <tsume> I'd buy MacOSX if it really does work on x86
[08:25] <Zzzippo> but the wired card should have installed automagicly
[08:25] <mcking> Zzzippo: is the wpc11 the pcmcia wireless card?
[08:25] <Zzzippo> at least it does w/ mandrake
[08:25] <vladuz976> so no one know how to  change window managers in ubuntu???
[08:25] <Zzzippo> yes the wireless is a wpc11
[08:26] <caonex> hello i compiled my own kernel with the driver for the nic but that must not be the only necessary thing because it is not working properly , ideas?
[08:26] <Seveas> vladuz976, window manager or desktop environment?
[08:26] <valzaq> try download kubuntu
[08:26] <mcking> Zzzippo: then it should work out of the box with Ubuntu. mine does
[08:26] <jbroome> lspci sees all of my nics, so that's a good sign
[08:26] <Seveas> changing window managers depends on which desktop environmen you use
[08:26] <vladuz976> Seveas, e17 to be specific
[08:26] <Seveas> vladuz976, there is no e17
[08:26] <userx> thanks a lot! :) Its my first time to Linux and first that successfully install a Printer :)
[08:26] <Seveas> e17 is still beta
[08:26] <userx> thanks to Ubuntu
[08:26] <Zzzippo> yes the wireless is a wpc11the wired card is a np100 "fast wireles 10/100"
[08:26] <Seveas> so if you want it, install it manually
[08:26] <userx> :)
[08:26] <vladuz976> Seveas, what do you mean?
[08:27] <Zzzippo> mcking mine dont....
[08:27] <Zzzippo> what version is your card?
[08:27] <Rugmonster> well, ubuntu is great on my laptop, but unfortunately, since I couldn't get the ATI drivers to work on my desktop, suse and apt4rpm are going to have to be it for now. Maybe when I get an nvidia card, I'll try it again.
[08:27] <vladuz976> Seveas, enlightenment17
[08:27] <Seveas> vladuz976, i mean that if you want to have iy you must download it and do the ./configure; make; make install dance
[08:27] <Zzzippo> i bet you have wpc11 v 4
[08:27] <caonex> nickrud, there?
[08:27] <mcking> Zzzippo: use lspci (or the gnome hardwae manger tool) to tell what chipset is on the np100 card
[08:27] <Zzzippo> i have wpc11 v2.5
[08:27] <vladuz976> Seveas, yeah i know, i already got the cvs
[08:27] <mcking> Zzzippo: aah
[08:28] <vladuz976> Seveas, but after i compile and install how do i change?
[08:28] <Seveas> vladuz976, well, then do the ./configure; make; make install dance...
[08:28] <mcking> it think you are right
[08:28] <mcking> s/it/i/
[08:28] <Thorrn4> hello all!!
[08:28] <Zzzippo> funny thing is in mandrake the wpc11 v4 is the pita
[08:28] <Seveas> and edit either the gdm config to start e17 or the X config to start the e17 login thing...
[08:28] <mcking> Thorrn4: sup
[08:28] <vladuz976> Seveas, no i don't have to, my friend wrote a script so it will do it automatically
[08:29] <Zzzippo> i really need a support guru to sit down walk me thru it
[08:29] <Seveas> vladuz976, well, then why do you ask here?
[08:29] <dimeo> advise to all, if your installation works... back it up immediately.  You never know when you'll have to do a complete reinstall to fix your system... like me
[08:29] <nickrud> caonex, hi
[08:29] <vladuz976> Seveas, i want to know how to switch between them
[08:29] <Seveas> and edit either the gdm config to start e17 or the X config to start the e17 login thing... <-- that
[08:29] <caonex> nickrud, hi
[08:30] <Thorrn4> listening to music mcking...waiting for Azureus to d/l...but the files are big....they arent downloading too fast....but I can wait (I'm downloading anime just incase u was wondering what it was)
[08:31] <caonex> nickrud, i am having some problems with my dads ubuntu because of what i told you last night with apt-get and linux-image
[08:31] <nickrud> caonex, yeah, and like I said, I pass on that ;)
[08:31] <caonex> nickrud, it erased everything, and for my luck i had another image
[08:31] <caonex> nickrud, the thing is not with that.
[08:31] <Thorrn4> what r u up 2 mcking?
[08:32] <mcking> Thorn4: just killing time
[08:32] <mcking> hangin out on #ubuntu
[08:32] <caonex> nickrud, the thing is that i compiled my own kernel and the necessary driver for the realtek eth1 which seems to be working since it can be edited using netwok-admin and all but wont do dhcp
[08:32] <caonex> nickrud, so i am thinking since it worked with the ubuntu image and not this one that there is something else i am missing
[08:33] <caonex> nickrud, for it to properly function, do you have any idea of what else?
[08:33] <nickrud> caonex, networking is another thing I pass on, I stopped compiling kernels a long time ago
[08:33] <nickrud> *and
[08:33] <caonex> nickrud, ok
[08:34] <mcking> caonex: so you have a module that works with the ubuntu image and not your compiled kernel?
[08:34] <wc_nix> does Linux support 32-bit color depth
[08:34] <wc_nix> ?
[08:34] <wc_nix> or is 24 the cut-off
[08:34] <nalioth_wrkn> wc_nix: 32
[08:34] <wc_nix> k
[08:34] <LiberalTugboat> in desktop mode I think 24 bit is tops
[08:34] <wc_nix> gotta install drivers then and set that xorg.conf up properly
[08:35] <anacron> hi again, when im trying to open videofile, it tryes to open it with xmms, so i try to change it to vlc, but when i do that, it says that could not add application to the application database?, what's that
[08:35] <LiberalTugboat> but games can run 32 bit
[08:35] <mcking> wc_nix: 24 is the color depth, but that automatically allows for another 8 bits for tranparancy
[08:35] <wc_nix> oh
[08:35] <LiberalTugboat> I could be wrong though
[08:35] <wc_nix> so i leave it at 24?
[08:35] <wc_nix> that's normal?
[08:35] <LiberalTugboat> yeah
[08:35] <wc_nix> or should i manually force 32
[08:35] <mcking> 24 is normal
[08:35] <wc_nix> ok
[08:35] <wc_nix> i still need to install the new nvidia drivers though
[08:35] <wc_nix> i'm just hoping they will work properly with the GeForce 4 Go 440
[08:35] <Thorrn4> depending on the DE anacron, you might be able to right click > properties and choose a different problem to load the file
[08:36] <anacron> Thorrn4: that's what i tried to do
[08:36] <jmacs> hi, im having a problem with apt-getting a package
[08:36] <jmacs> it says there is an MD5 mismatch
[08:36] <Seveas> jmacs, look at the topic :)
[08:37] <jmacs> the just ask part?
[08:37] <HappyFool> jmacs: US archives are broken; change us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:37] <Seveas> no the part after that...
[08:37] <jmacs> ah
[08:37] <jbroome> use archive.ubuntu.com
[08:38] <Seveas> jmacs: sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:38] <eyequeue> marillat stable has an md5sum mismatch too btw
[08:38] <Seveas> lol :)
[08:38] <jmacs> Seveas, thank you
[08:39] <mcking> would it be better to use the debs from universe to install mythtv or the more current version off of mythtv.sf.net
[08:39] <JDahl> Seveas, I always fell intimidated by people who knows sed and awk by heart
[08:39] <eyequeue> oddly marillat testing and unstable are fine
[08:39] <nalioth> this is great! i'm on irssi on a machine i'm not even in front of
[08:39] <quijote_> www.partyquijote.com
[08:39] <quijote_> let's go!
[08:39] <anacron> nalioth: what's so great with that? :D
[08:39] <jbroome> nalioth: screen+irssi is awesome
[08:39] <eyequeue> nalioth:  screen?
[08:40] <eyequeue> nalioth:  btw, thanks. he loved sith!
[08:40] <anacron> don't use screen with that, say shell or shh :)
[08:40] <Web-Designer> Anyone have experience doing dual boot Debian/Ubuntu and Win XP?
[08:41] <JDahl> Web-Designer, yes... that's quite easy to setup
[08:41] <mcking> Web-Designer: ya. what's up?
[08:41] <Seveas> works out-of-the-box when installing Ubuntu
[08:41] <nalioth> eyequeue: yes screen on a permanent connection (this lappy goes to work with me
[08:42] <nalioth> anacron: huh? i am connected to my other mac via ssh, resuming a screen session running irssi (anyone confused?)
[08:42] <mcking> brb
[08:43] <Web-Designer> J-Dahl> I tried doing dual boot with Win 2k and it was a mess.  It can be done, but requires a lot of tweaking.  I hear XP is easier.  I would like to put Linux on its own drive and was wondering if this would be an advantage to avoiding administrative overhead?  Would I get a double boot loader menu?  I had this with Win2k and want to avoid it.
[08:43] <anacron> nalioth: it's not confusing, it's that it's not that awesome thing
[08:43] <Web-Designer> Also, I would appreciate some suggestions for which edition I should use.  Can Ubuntu be used for the enterprise version?
[08:43] <anacron> well, maybe it's great to you though
[08:44] <eyequeue> or that it is awesome but we have all gotten used to it and forgotten?
[08:44] <JDahl> Web-Designer, it's definitely easier if you have a free disk... then you dount have to shrink partitions etc
[08:44] <HappyFool> Web-Designer: there's no such thing as the 'enterpise edition' ;)
[08:44] <nalioth> anacron: the newness makes it awesome
[08:44] <JDahl> s/dount/dont
[08:44] <eyequeue> screen does rock though, as does ssh, as does irssi
[08:44] <Web-Designer> JDahl> What steps should I do after getting a free disk?
[08:45] <Seveas> HappyFool, there will be enterprise versions of Ubuntu
[08:45] <jbroome> eyequeue: all three joined together join to become the Voltron of the ircing on *nix. :)
[08:45] <HappyFool> Seveas: really? OK, i stand corrected
[08:45] <Web-Designer> I am thinking of getting rid of the XP Home all together.  My informants advise me that you can't use it to install servers for the web.
[08:45] <JDahl> Web-Designer, if you have a free disk, then all you have to do is to install ubuntu on it; that's all there is to it
[08:45] <eyequeue> screen has a great cut/paste too :)  ^A^[ ^A^] 
[08:45] <anacron> irssi is extremely great since it's made by finnish people
[08:45] <Seveas> Web-Designer, you can install all kinds of servers on XP home
[08:45] <nalioth> brb
[08:46] <HappyFool> yeah, but there's some limit to the number of listening ports, or number of accepted connections, something weird like that
[08:46] <abbot45> im trying to burn a data dvd in both gnomebaker & k3b but i keep getting an error even though i just burned another dvd 10 minutes ago.  it says "OPC Failed, Please try writing at 1x" "Fatal Error at Startup, Input/Output Error" can someone tell me what this means?
[08:46] <Web-Designer> Seveas>  Thanks for letting me know.
[08:46] <xabbu|> Seveas, I don't think ssi is integrated in xp home...
[08:46] <Seveas> ssi?
[08:46] <xabbu|> Windows webserver software...
[08:46] <xabbu|> :P
[08:46] <HappyFool> they crippled win xp so you have to buy the "server" versions of win
[08:47] <Seveas> xabbu|, why would you ever need that...
[08:47] <xabbu|> I was beeing ironic..
[08:47] <xabbu|> :P
[08:47] <n00berz> i need help!!!
[08:47] <abbot45> ???
[08:47] <Seveas> n00berz, look at the topic: just ask
[08:47] <anacron> :D
[08:47] <Web-Designer> J-Dahl> Will I get a menu showing both system if I put Ubuntu on its own disk?
[08:47] <mcking> how about just installing apache on windows instead of ssi?
[08:47] <Seveas> Web-Designer, yes
[08:47] <Web-Designer> oops sorry about the color.  BOBOBO
[08:47] <xabbu|> mcking, that works great
[08:47] <n00berz> ok well i tried to install ubuntu on my HDD, i created a linux ext2 partition
[08:48] <Deffy> Houston, we have a problem
[08:48] <xabbu|> mcking, just to download and install..
[08:48] <mcking> Web-Designer: yes, but you have to install wundows first and ubuntu second
[08:48] <Web-Designer> ok.  Then that is the way I need to go.   Anyone on here live in LA, CA ??
[08:48] <n00berz> put the cd in and followed the instructions
[08:48] <Seveas> n00berz, create at least 2: you need a swap partition...
[08:48] <JDahl> Web-Designer, I do
[08:48] <anacron> Web-Designer: sure you can have like 1000 different systems, it's not a problem
[08:48] <Web-Designer> Windows is already installed so that wouldn't be a problem.
[08:48] <FR500> hello
[08:48] <Deffy> just downloaded ubuntu iso
[08:48] <xabbu|> FR500, hi
[08:48] <Web-Designer> I am flying to LA this Wednesday and was wondering if there is a computer recycling program in the community?
[08:48] <FR500> a question, does adding bootsplash requiere a full kernel recompile?
[08:48] <Deffy> and installing
[08:48] <Seveas> FR500, yes
[08:48] <eyequeue> Deffy:  which?
[08:49] <xabbu|> FR500, No...
[08:49] <kafeine> anacron, well not 1000 systems, actually... maybe about 60 at the same time currently supported in grub
[08:49] <Web-Designer> I already have an Ubuntu disk.  It was shipped to me by Ubuntu.
[08:49] <Seveas> xabbu|, oh, so it can be made a module?
[08:49] <n00berz> seveas: the installer did that for me. everythin installed properly but when grub goes to load up it just hangs
[08:49] <Seveas> hmm.. :)
[08:49] <JDahl> Web-Designer, I wouldnt know... what kind of machine are you donating? I could use an upgrade
[08:49] <Seveas> n00berz, what is the error it gives?
[08:49] <wc_nix> telinit 3 wont work
[08:49] <n00berz> nothing
[08:49] <Deffy> it went well... until I got a red warning screen
[08:49] <wc_nix> i need to kill X11
[08:49] <FR500> xabbu|, so, is iat a module or what?
[08:49] <wc_nix> so that i can install nVidia drivers
[08:49] <wc_nix> how come telinit 3 wont work?
[08:49] <Seveas> n00berz, well, it has to say something...
[08:49] <xabbu|> I just followed the guide at www.ubuntuguide.org..
[08:49] <Seveas> xabbu|, ditch that again
[08:49] <eyequeue> Deffy:  what was the message?
[08:50] <n00berz> just says loading grub 1.5, please wait....
[08:50] <nalioth> hadda ssh my ~/.irssi/config over right quick, didnt want anyone callin me at home
[08:50] <Web-Designer> I don't like XP.  Don't think it is a very secure operating system.  Too many holes and too many ways to break in.
[08:50] <Seveas> ubuntuguide is not too good
[08:50] <xabbu|> Well it worked for me...
[08:50] <wc_nix> Web-Designer, no OS is fully secure
[08:50] <Deffy> eyequeue: no installable kernel found
[08:50] <anacron> kafeine: ok :D
[08:50] <FR500> Seveas, why not?
[08:50] <abbot45> im trying to burn a data dvd in both gnomebaker & k3b but i keep getting an error even though i just burned another dvd 10 minutes ago.  it says "OPC Failed, Please try writing at 1x" "Fatal Error at Startup, Input/Output Error" can someone tell me what this means?
[08:50] <eyequeue> Deffy:  what hardware platform are you on?
[08:50] <my_haz> w00t 20hours away from 20day uptime
[08:50] <FR500> Seveas, i find it a little too ambitious, but it's good for noobs
[08:51] <FR500> and me :p
[08:51] <Web-Designer> J-Dahl>  I am looking for parts.  Drives, memory, etc.
[08:51] <Seveas> ubuntuguide contains very wrong information
[08:51] <Deffy> it's an old PII
[08:51] <Web-Designer> I have a family reunion to go to and thought i would check out a few other things while I am down there.
[08:51] <Seveas> wc_nix, why would you ever need telinit?
[08:51] <wc_nix> i just said why
[08:51] <eyequeue> Deffy:  and you have the i386 iso, right?
[08:51] <xabbu|> Seveas, like what... it would be nice to know
[08:51] <wc_nix> i need to kill X11
[08:51] <n00berz> seveas: so what can i do to get my windows working again?
[08:51] <wc_nix> so that I can install Nvidia drivers
[08:51] <Thorrn4> hello! How can I mount an ISO image that I have?
[08:51] <Deffy> eyequeue:yes
[08:52] <wc_nix> telinit is supposed to work
[08:52] <wc_nix> but isnt
[08:52] <FR500> xabbu|, that is not splashy, thats the grub splash screen
[08:52] <eyequeue> wc_nix:  /etc/init.gdm stop
[08:52] <Seveas> xabbu|, the java stuff is crap, it advises backports/marillat, it gives NO explanations on why you should use it
[08:52] <xabbu|> oh...
[08:52] <bassMonkey> hi, I'm trying to make a ubuntu pdc for a windows-xp domain. If i add an existing windows workstation to the domain to test it out, will i still be able to log on to it "locally"?
[08:52] <HappyFool> Thorrn4: sudo mount -o loop filename.iso /path/to/mountpoint
[08:52] <xabbu|> FR500, Sorry I miss understood you.
[08:52] <eyequeue> wc_nix:  telinit is not, that for rh
[08:52] <Web-Designer> Well I need to scoot.  Nice chattin with everyone. BYBYBYBY  ICQ 118179171
[08:52] <wc_nix> no such file or directory
[08:52] <Seveas> wc_nix, rofl, telinit to kill X :)
[08:52] <mcking> Thorrn4: mount -o loop your.iso /mnt/where/you/want/to/mount/it
[08:52] <Hablandocontigo> my firefox won't startup; I installed the backports version with all the extra packages, what could be the problem?
[08:52] <FR500> xabbu|, np
[08:52] <wc_nix> oh yeah
[08:52] <wc_nix> forgot this is Debian
[08:52] <wc_nix> sheet
[08:52] <Seveas> Hablandocontigo, just that
[08:52] <Seveas> backports are bad
[08:52] <wc_nix> i've used redhat systems forever :-(
[08:53] <Seveas> wc_nix, redhat is crappy and incompatible...
[08:53] <Hablandocontigo> Seveas: how can I repair my package?
[08:53] <Deffy> forgive me, using onscreen kbd so myresponses will be slow :/
[08:53] <wc_nix> so how do i kill X11 in Debian
[08:53] <Seveas> Hablandocontigo, aptitude purge mozilla-firefox
[08:53] <eyequeue> Deffy:  that is okay
[08:53] <Seveas> remove backports from your list
[08:53] <Seveas> and reinstall it
[08:53] <Thorrn4> mcking and HappyFool: does "your.iso" have to include the file placement (/home/where/ever)?
[08:53] <anacron> :D omg is that really "original" doom i can download with package manager?
[08:53] <nalioth> Hablandocontigo: uninstall firefox
[08:53] <Seveas> wc_nix, invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[08:53] <FR500> Seveas, isn't it possible to provide a recompiled kernel deb with bootsplash
[08:53] <Deffy> I only got one kbd
[08:53] <eyequeue> Deffy:  that is also the corect iso, so should have the right kernel
[08:53] <mcking> Thorrn4: only if you are not in the same dir as the iso
[08:53] <eyequeue> Deffy:  odd
[08:53] <wc_nix> ty
[08:53] <darkaudit> anacron: you don't get the .WAD files
[08:53] <Seveas> FR500, of course it is
[08:54] <Seveas> FR500, make-kpkg can do that for you
[08:54] <LinuxJones> wc_nix, /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[08:54] <quam> anacron: i saw quake2 on the package list too, but i couldn't figure out how to make it work :p
[08:54] <n00berz> ?
[08:54] <FR500> Seveas, i'll look into it
[08:54] <FR500> thx
[08:54] <eyequeue> wc_nix:  /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[08:54] <anacron> quam: yeah i saw that too
[08:54] <eyequeue> wc_nix:  typo before
[08:54] <anacron> darkaudit: but you can play without problems?
[08:54] <Deffy> eyequeu, should I go back or continue?
[08:54] <Seveas> n00berz, boot from a windows 98 floppy and run fdisk /mbr
[08:54] <anacron> darkaudit: im not going to edit it or something like that
[08:55] <eyequeue> Deffy:  at this stage, i'd start over
[08:55] <Deffy> ok
[08:55] <darkaudit> anacron: you need the .WAD files to be able to play... either demo or Doom or Doom2
[08:55] <n00berz> seveas: tried that boot disk hangs also, same with win98 bootable cd
[08:55] <eyequeue> Deffy: but i really can't imagine how you got to that error myself
[08:55] <darkaudit> but no editing really neede
[08:55] <nalioth> Seveas: doesnt the ubuntu live or knoppix CDs have the fdisk capability, also?
[08:55] <darkaudit> s/neede/needed
[08:55] <anacron> darkaudit: ok, well that's not a problem
[08:55] <Seveas> n00berz, sounds like something else is wrong then ....
[08:55] <keir_> Failed to fetch .... <url> MD5Sum mismatch <-- what dose this mean? on a fresh insteall of ubuntu, i can't install lineakd or xfonts-artwiz
[08:56] <eyequeue> Deffy: if it happens again, you'll probably need someone else to help you
[08:56] <Seveas> keir_, look at the topic
[08:56] <n00berz> hmm...
[08:56] <Seveas> keir_: sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:56] <eyequeue> keir_:  /topic
[08:56] <tombs> tarde
[08:56] <Deffy> thanks, I'll let ya know what happens
[08:56] <tombs> hi ppl
[08:56] <eyequeue> Deffy:  cool
[08:56] <keir_> thanks
[08:57] <redlounge> hi. anyone can suggest a good folder sync tool?
[08:57] <mcking> redlounge: unison or rsync
[08:57] <Deffy> argh I need to steal another keyboard
[08:57] <redlounge> i tried rsync, but it wont sync anything
[08:58] <mcking> redlounge: what did you type?
[08:58] <Hablandocontigo> I just uninstalled backports mozilla and removed it from my sources list and installed mozilla-firefox_1.0.2-0ubuntu5.3_i386.deb) but I still can't launch mozilla, what could be the problem?
[08:58] <redlounge> i will only use it local, so i do not need to run any daemon, right?
[08:58] <keir_> 3D doesn't work for me - nvidia (binary) drivers are in, nvidia logo comes up, and i disabled Module "dri", yet glxgears runs at 2fps. any thoughts? (glxinfo says direct: Yes, which is wrong iirc, but i've disabled it!!!)
[08:58] <mcking> redlounge: yeah, you use it like an improved "cp" command, like this:
[08:58] <nalioth> Hablandocontigo: r u launching mozilla or firefox?
[08:58] <redlounge> hmm...
[08:58] <Hablandocontigo> nalioth: firefox %u
[08:59] <mcking> redlounge: rsync -a /source/dir/ /target/dir
[08:59] <Deffy> atleast I'm trying this on an old system, and not my good one
[08:59] <nalioth> Hablandocontigo: not sure then
[08:59] <steve_w> anyone have any suggestions on where I can get some info about running 32-bit binaries on an AMD64 system?
[08:59] <ompaul> Hablandocontigo, did you check if it was running using ps awux ?
[08:59] <redlounge> doesnt -a zip it?
[08:59] <Thorrn4> mcking and HappyFool: it did not work....it only gave me the instructions of how 2 use the mount command....but I dont understand what its saying
[09:00] <nalioth> steve_w: what kind of info?
[09:00] <Hablandocontigo> Hablandocontigo: how do I check that?
[09:00] <Hablandocontigo> ompaul: how do I check that?
[09:00] <HappyFool> Thorrn4: if the error is a single line, paste it here
[09:00] <steve_w> google hasn't been much help. I tried setting up a 32-bit chroot but the programs still didn't work. I may be able to get source and recompile, but the 64-bit version of this app seems generally unstable
[09:00] <ompaul> Hablandocontigo, run a terminal and in it type 'ps awux| grep mozilla| grep -v grep'  ?
[09:01] <HappyFool> Thorrn4: otherwise, put it on a pastebin, and let us know the url
[09:01] <eyequeue> Hablandocontigo:  ps auxw | grep firefox .... but you should also try invoking firefox from a terminal
[09:01] <keir_> has anyone switched to fluxbox for the WM, yet still run gnome and be able to log out?
[09:01] <redlounge> mcking: i will try again, but it hink i tried this and it just gave me a file list but didnt copy anything
[09:01] <AlanHorkan> is there anyone here who could answer questions about the Ubuntu Google projects or should I ask somewhere else?
[09:01] <Hablandocontigo> I bet it was the old one running, I just killed it in top and launched the browser, all is well
[09:01] <Seveas> AlanHorkan, ask here for starters..
[09:01] <eyequeue> Hablandocontigo: any error messages it spits out will be visible in that case
[09:02] <mcking> redlounge: remember, 'man rsync' is your friend!
[09:02] <Thorrn4> HappyFool, pastebin does not work...it gives my an error
[09:02] <redlounge> i know... ;)
[09:02] <eyequeue> Hablandocontigo: glad to hear its sorted
[09:02] <nalioth> mcking: i thought just the "man" was your friend
[09:02] <J35U5> anyone have problems with a radeon 9800 pro?
[09:02] <berkes> hey there . Every 30-60 mins my system completely freezes. any idea how I can trace any messages back when i log back on?
[09:02] <HappyFool> Thorrn4: ?
[09:02] <mcking> redlounge: I usually use another screen/terminal to monitor the target directory to make sure it is working ok
[09:02] <HappyFool> Thorrn4: try this: http://rafb.net/paste/
[09:02] <HappyFool> Thorrn4: does the ISO filename have spaces in?
[09:03] <Hablandocontigo> well, almost sorted, the menu for import bookmarks doesn't respond to the "next" button; what could be the problem?
[09:03] <Seveas> berkes, /var/log/syslog /ver/log/kern.log /var/log/emerg.log
[09:03] <Seveas> etc..
[09:03] <eyequeue> nalioth:  the man? seator palpatine is your friend? ;)
[09:03] <redlounge> mcking: just a second, i will try
[09:03] <Thorrn4> I think that HappyFool yea
[09:03] <berkes> I do not know what causes the freeze, I guess its ndiswrapper, allthough It once froze while that was not loaded at all
[09:03] <nalioth> eyequeue: yes he is
[09:03] <AlanHorkan> Seveas the "Ubuntu Light" project how fixed is it?  I was thinking something based on GPE and Matchbox would be interesting
[09:03] <nalioth> eyequeue: but my closer bud is darth "man <pkgname>"
[09:03] <HappyFool> Thorrn4: if the filename has spaces, put it in quotes, like this: sudo mount -o loop "the file name.iso" /path/to/mount
[09:03] <eyequeue> nalioth:  i for one welcome our empire overlords
[09:03] <mcking> AlanHorkan: i think it will be based on xfce
[09:03] <hno> -> berkes - sounds like a thermic problem
[09:04] <hno> check if your processor fan
[09:04] <eyequeue> s/empire/new empire/
[09:04] <AlanHorkan> mcking XCFE not a bady choice
[09:04] <nalioth> eyequeue: if you keep track of all the overlords that are coming (from fark.com) we will not notice anything, cuz they'll all be fighing amongst themselves
[09:04] <eyequeue> can't even get my dumb jokes right
[09:04] <Seveas> AlanHorkan, ah micro-buntu, you can check out things on udu.wiki.ubuntu.com and send a proposal to ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com
[09:04] <Thorrn4> HappyFool, http://rafb.net/paste/results/mUKx8x21.html
[09:04] <eyequeue> heh
[09:05] <Seveas> mcking, xfce is too heavy for the micro-buntu target
[09:05] <nalioth> eyequeue: i (for one) don't under/s/t/ and  a wor/d of that stuff
[09:05] <AlanHorkan> Seveas I was really hoping there would be a bug report I could add myself to the CC list
[09:05] <eyequeue> heh
[09:05] <Seveas> AlanHorkan, maybe there is one in bugzilla.ubuntu.com but i don't think so
[09:05] <nalioth> eyequeue: and w/o understanding, where's the joke?
[09:05] <thenuke_> ooh, is there some Ubuntu Light -branch or something?
[09:06] <Seveas> AlanHorkan, you could attend the next techboard meeting and ask there
[09:06] <HappyFool> Thorrn4: sudo mount -o loop "Ubuntu 5.04.iso" /home/roger/amountpoint  -- you don't want to mount it over your home directory!
[09:06] <nalioth> thenuke_: tastes great - less calories
[09:06] <eyequeue> nalioth:  i think the original was a kent brockman (simpsins) quote
[09:06] <AlanHorkan> Seveas techboard?  what? when? where?  Hadn't heard it before
[09:06] <steve_w> nalioth: nevermind, just found the debian howto
[09:06] <nalioth> eyequeue: and fark has definitely adopted it
[09:07] <nalioth> steve_w: good deal!
[09:07] <Thorrn4> oh...ok
[09:07] <nalioth> eyequeue: its about an overlord a day over there
[09:07] <berkes> Seveas: okay, found some stuff in kernel.log, but that still tells me little :)
[09:07] <Thorrn4> damn....I did HappyFool
[09:07] <eyequeue> nalioth:  ah, i haven't been over to fark in a while
[09:07] <HappyFool> Thorrn4: sudo umount /home/roger
[09:08] <Thorrn4> device is busy
[09:08] <Hablandocontigo> How can I get sound on my flashes?
[09:08] <Seveas> AlanHorkan, wiki.ubuntu.com/Agenda
[09:08] <anacron> omg im all fired up with those games i can download with package installer :D
[09:08] <refuze2looze> anybody here use gngeo by any chance?
[09:09] <HappyFool> anacron: flight of the amazon queen is great
[09:09] <mcking> any ideas on a cross-platform music/video client for use with something like mythtv or freevo?
[09:09] <thenuke_> I cant find much about anything related to "Ubuntu Light".  Only some sentences from forum like "there is a special "ubuntu light" being planned"
[09:09] <bpuccio> anacron: I just started playing wesnoth the other day, quite fun, though sadly I'm not too good
[09:09] <Thorrn4> HappyFool, is says "device is busy"...I should have waited until u answered me......now I know why not 2
[09:09] <redlounge> mcking: ok, -a does the job. just one question, is rsync -av --delete --force a good choice to backup a folder?
[09:09] <berkes> is it correct, that a boot of your system starts with the message  Inspecting /boot/System.map-*** ?
[09:09] <Seveas> berkes, yes
[09:09] <anacron> what's wrong with my terminal, i can't "loop" any keys?
[09:10] <HappyFool> Thorrn4: just close any windows viewing that mount
[09:10] <mcking> redlounge: if you are backing up a folder and only want to keep the "current" changes to it, then yeah
[09:10] <HappyFool> Thorrn4: exit any shells in that dir, etc
[09:10] <redlounge> mcking: ok i will try this. thx
[09:10] <Seveas> berkes, it should even :)
[09:10] <HappyFool> Thorrn4: in a worst case, you might have to reboot (easiest fix, i think)
[09:10] <anacron> HappyFool and bpuccio: damn you, now i have to try those too!
[09:10] <mcking> redlounge: if you are making incremental backups then you might want to try something like bacula
[09:11] <hno> need help ... can't configure MouseFlight in Vegastrike
[09:11] <berkes> So, a session that freezes ends with some call traces and stacks and so. Any hints what i should be looking at, specifically?
[09:11] <Seveas> berkes, not at all...
[09:11] <redlounge> mcking: i do not need incremental right now
[09:11] <hno> berkes: thermic problem
[09:11] <nalioth> mcking: vlc
[09:11] <hno> berkes: check processor fan
[09:12] <Thorrn4> HappyFool, I got my files back!!
[09:12] <redlounge> mcking: just a backup of my laptop hdd
[09:12] <HappyFool> Thorrn4: good stuff
[09:12] <HappyFool> Thorrn4: don't mount anything at your home directory again ;-)
[09:12] <mcking> nalioth: I thought about that, but I want something that will integrate with something like myth or freevo
[09:12] <AlanHorkan> Seveas: thanks, next meeting is in just over a week.  (#debian was never this civilised and friendly)
[09:12] <nalioth> mcking: don't know any other cross-platform music thing
[09:12] <Thorrn4> now that I know why not, I wont HappyFool
[09:13] <berkes> hno: no messages about the fan. it contains a log of "eip" things though..
[09:13] <mcking> looking at the myth web page, it says that the myth-web plugin has plans to support streaming in the future.  That would be cool
[09:13] <anacron> can somebody help me with xmess, how should it be used?
[09:13] <hno> berkes:  i see
[09:13] <anacron> when i try tu run it all i get is a blank screen, and then i have to press ctrl+alt+backspace
[09:14] <shogun> anyone know how to invoke crystalspace from the command line?
[09:14] <Howitzer> nalioth, could you give me some names of file managers(nautilu/konqueror alike)
[09:14] <Deffy> ok... well with the iso in the drive, it's now causing the bios to hang at 27%
[09:14] <nalioth> Howitzer: open synaptic and search for manager
[09:15] <hno> berkes: do you have the same problem with other os ?
[09:15] <Howitzer> okay
[09:15] <mink> Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  MD5Sum mismatch
[09:15] <nalioth> Howitzer: you will find several of all forms
[09:15] <berkes> hno: no
[09:15] <mink> anyone else having this error?
[09:15] <Seveas> mink, look at the topic
[09:15] <Howitzer> is kynaptic the same as synaptic?
[09:15] <Seveas> mink: sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:15] <nalioth> mink: read topic
[09:15] <Seveas> hmm marillat
[09:15] <nalioth> Howitzer: i prefer synaptic, i find kynaptic lacking
[09:15] <Seveas> lol, we need to read instead of auto-replying ;)
[09:15] <sysrq> mink: that is a non-official repository anyways why are you asking here
[09:15] <mink> i did read the topic :X
[09:15] <HappyFool> Seveas: heh. your trigger finger's a bit quick ;)
[09:16] <Seveas> mink, stop using marillat for now
[09:16] <Seveas> the error will resolve sometime..
[09:16] <berkes> hno: I think it is my ndiswrapper though.
[09:16] <laptop> hello
[09:16] <mink> sometime :\ ?
[09:16] <redlounge> i want to have an external usb drive to be readable by win and lin. i created a win95 fat32 part. and vfat filesystem. is this a good idea?
[09:16] <Seveas> yes sometime. With no time indication possible
[09:16] <redlounge> it is 160gb
[09:16] <hno> berkes: after 30min ???
[09:16] <Seveas> redlounge, yes, good idea
[09:17] <berkes> because that is what the "call Trace" shows :  *** [ndiswrapper] 
[09:17] <keir_> 160gb on vfat good idea?
[09:17] <mink> thats depressing :P
[09:17] <berkes> hno approx, yes
[09:17] <redlounge> Seveas: what about file corruption. vfat is not that good, right?
[09:17] <dennis> Hello.
[09:17] <Seveas> redlounge, well, you should at least create multiple partitions...
[09:17] <dennis> Can someone help me with something...
[09:17] <Seveas> vfat is good enough if you don't just unplug the disk...
[09:18] <dennis> I'm installing the gstreamer plugins and I got an error
[09:18] <laptop> hi is my first time in here
[09:18] <redlounge> Seveas: means it can get corrupted easily?
[09:18] <keir_> redlounge, just mount it with sync=1 iirc
[09:18] <redlounge> keir_: any better idea?
[09:18] <berkes> hno, this is very odd, ndiswrapper has been loaded correectly and all, and then, 19 mins later some wlanuig was found, that causes the crash
[09:19] <dennis> While installing the gstreamer plugins ...I got this error...can someone help?
[09:19] <dennis> http://pastebin.ca/14139
[09:19] <Seveas> redlounge, all filesystems can get corrupted if unplugged too fast...
[09:19] <_Vice_> hi guys, I need to install KDE desktop on my ubuntu asap, what would be the command (can I get it from SYnapse?)
[09:19] <berkes> wonder what app/service/whatever tries to install or load that wlanuig
[09:19] <Seveas> dennis, look at the topic
[09:19] <Seveas> dennis: sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:19] <berkes> _Vice_: kubuntu
[09:19] <InitMass> where do i place themes for qt?
[09:20] <Seveas> InitMass, in the trashcan :)
[09:20] <_Vice_> berkes, that's not the fastest way as my internet is slow and I just installed ubuntu ;)
[09:20] <berkes> InitMass: kde-look.org :P
[09:20] <anacron> hey, what was the command to change alsa volume in terminal?
[09:20] <Seveas> anacron, amixer
[09:20] <_Vice_> berkes, I see its package in synaptic, how do I switch to it after I get that package?
[09:20] <InitMass> berkes, it's so damn slow so i can't get in
[09:20] <J35U5> anyone know how to get hardware acceleration working for a 9800 pro?
[09:20] <Seveas> anacron, alsamixer even gives you a curses interface
[09:20] <InitMass> Seveas, i just want to change the look of scribus
[09:20] <berkes> _Vice_:  installing KDE will take ages too, though
[09:20] <_Vice_> ANy one had success running Kylix3 on ubuntu? the interface is all messed up over here
[09:20] <berkes> but its kde-base for one
[09:21] <redlounge> Seveas: ok, wish me luck ;)
[09:21] <anacron> Seveas: it was the second one, what i was looking for, tnx :)
[09:21] <hno> berkes: sorry have to think over that
[09:21] <_Vice_> berkes, I see. I only need to get Kylix running really... I don't want KDE that much
[09:21] <dennis> Seveas, I did that and got this :/
[09:21] <dennis> http://pastebin.ca/14140
[09:21] <berkes> hno: no problem :)
[09:21] <Hablandocontigo> Can someone try to help me trouble should my microphone, I'm trying to record with audacity but the mic is not picking it up; I have it plugged into the microphone jac
[09:21] <berkes> Hablandocontigo: on KDE?
[09:21] <Seveas> dennis, *always* apt-get update after editing /etc/apt/sources/list
[09:21] <dennis> I did that already...
[09:21] <Hablandocontigo> berkes: gnome
[09:22] <_Vice_> anyone using Kylix?
[09:22] <berkes> sorry, dunno gnome :)
[09:22] <dennis> Guess I'll just do it again
[09:22] <keir_> does anyone else have ubuntu randomly hang for 2-3 seconds and then go back to normal? this never happened with debian
[09:22] <dooglus> Seveas: do you remember advising someone:  < Seveas> davegahan, mv /home/peter/.evolution /home/peter2/.evolution
[09:22] <Varanger> hi...
[09:23] <Seveas> dooglus, yes
[09:23] <dooglus> Seveas: it turns out he already had a /home/peter2/.evolution, and your command ended up making him a /home/peter2/.evolution/.evolution !
[09:23] <Varanger> are acpi=off and pci=noacpi options the same???
[09:23] <dooglus> (I just logged onto his box and spent a while getting to the bottom of the problem)
[09:23] <Seveas> dooglus, ah crap
[09:24] <Seveas> should have though of that...
[09:24] <dooglus> Seveas: no harm done - but he was terrified he'd lost his entire mail collection for a while
[09:24] <Seveas> i can imagine that...
[09:24] <hno> I cant configure mouseflight in vegastrike - can anyone help me?
[09:24] <Seveas> dooglus, tell him i'm sorry
[09:24] <_Vice_> anyone using Kylix?
[09:25] <dooglus> we had to go through the whole process - install sshd, work out what router he had, guess the admin password, set up port forwarding, work out how to configure firestarter to let me in...  it was fun :)
[09:25] <wizzard> hi there, it is possible to increase the number of text consoles in Kubuntu?
[09:26] <HappyFool> wizzard: i think so, but you could also try screen
[09:26] <keir_> ok, this random freezing is so annoying i am reformatting to debian. hopefully that'll fix it!
[09:26] <wizzard> HappyFool: I did it in Slack, but I do not know how to do it in Kubuntu
[09:27] <Hablandocontigo> My microphone recording is playing back crunchy noise like a TV when it shows black and white balls, what could be the problem?
[09:27] <geargolem> Hi everybody.  How can I change the root user name to something else?
[09:27] <Seveas> wizzard, it's easy
[09:27] <NetGrunt> hi
[09:27] <nalioth> wizzard: yes,
[09:27] <nalioth> "gnu screen" will give you as many as your ram will permit
[09:27] <NetGrunt> does anybody know how can I make my desktop icons smaller ? In Ubuntu Hoary.
[09:27] <refuze2looze> anybody here use gngeo by any chance?
[09:28] <wizzard> Seveas: could you help me, please?
[09:28] <syntaxerror64> nalioth: good afternoon
[09:28] <geargolem> NetGrunt, got to system->preferences->screen resolution
[09:28] <IIIEars> nalioth - us. or archive.   ?
[09:28] <Octane> hey all, do i need to add fglfx and nvidia to /etc/modules?
[09:28] <Octane> fglfx = glx
[09:29] <HappyFool> Octane: just nvidia, i think
[09:29] <nalioth> IIIEars: no us.   (for now)
[09:29] <NetGrunt> geargolem, I want to keep the same resolution, but just make the desktop icons look smaller ... so I can place more of them
[09:29] <nalioth> IIIEars: just plain archive.*.* blah
[09:29] <nalioth> syntaxerror64: howdy
[09:29] <HappyFool> Octane: this is assuming you have an nvidia card, of course ;)
[09:29] <IIIEars> nalioth - Okay. - Thank You.
[09:29] <Octane> HappyFool: of course :))))
[09:30] <Celeste> hi I need help
[09:30] <nalioth> wizzard: here is a good read on "gnu screen" (near the bottom) http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2004/07/06/unix_gems.html
[09:30] <Celeste> could someone help me to instal apache
[09:30] <Hablandocontigo> How can I upgrade to the latest firefox?
[09:30] <Seveas> Celeste, sudo aptitude install apache2
[09:30] <kbrooks> Celeste, apt-get install apache2
[09:30] <wizzard> nalioth: Thanks
[09:30] <IIIEars> Celeste - looking for a gui conf editor? - ""
[09:31] <Seveas> Celeste, if you want more help: read the documentation, this cahannel is not for apache-specific help...
[09:31] <Celeste> thanks
[09:31] <Howitzer> ehh
[09:31] <Howitzer> i'm hving a problem compiling things >_<
[09:31] <Ben_Babcock> When I'm partitioning my hard drive, how do I resize my existing NFTS partition to make some free space _without_ destroying the data on it?
[09:31] <Howitzer> checking for cc... no
[09:31] <Howitzer> checking for cl... no
[09:31] <Howitzer> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[09:31] <Howitzer> See `config.log' for more details.
[09:31] <Celeste> ok hold on i going to try that
[09:31] <ahmeni> /etc/sudoers complains if it doesn't have the permissions/ownership of only being readable by user/group root, but I get a permission denied whenever I try to sudo as a regular user.  I don't remember changing anything, have I mucked myself up somehow?
[09:31] <Seveas> wizzard, it's in /etc/inittab
[09:31] <HappyFool> Howitzer: install build-essential
[09:31] <Seveas> wizzard, just edit that file
[09:31] <HappyFool> Howitzer: 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[09:32] <Howitzer> okay
[09:32] <InitMass> Ubuntu is leading at distrowatch.com
[09:32] <Octane> i dont get it -- i loadmodule nvidia it loads fine acording to the X log but then a couple of lines down it says "UnloadModule" and it unloads it
[09:32] <Seveas> Howitzer, what are you compiling?
[09:32] <Howitzer> a file mnager
[09:32] <Howitzer> why?
[09:32] <Seveas> just curious :)
[09:32] <Gskillet> anyone here setup kismet before?
[09:32] <Howitzer> :D
[09:33] <wizzard> Seveas: yeah, it is that file, I just forgot the name, thank you very much
[09:33] <Seveas> since most people that complain about compile errors are compiling things that are available in the repositories
[09:33] <Howitzer> adrian@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:33] <Howitzer> E: Kon vergrendeling /var/lib/dpkg/lock niet verkrijgen - open (11 Systeembron tijdelijk niet beschikbaar)
[09:33] <Howitzer> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:33] <Howitzer> :/
[09:33] <Octane> is synpatic running?
[09:33] <Seveas> Howitzer, sluit synaptic/aptitude of wat er ook open staat
[09:34] <nalioth> well gotta go to work
[09:34] <Howitzer> omg
[09:34] <Howitzer> how do you guys know all that(belg?)
[09:34] <javier_> hi guys, anybody uses gaim ?
[09:34] <Seveas> Howitzer, look at what you pasted :)
[09:34] <uc50ic4more> javier_ - I do
[09:34] <Seveas> Howitzer, there is #ubuntu-nl too by the way
[09:34] <Octane> with nvidia, do you need to Load both gl xand nvidia?
[09:34] <Octane> in your xorg\
[09:34] <javier_> your friends can see your nick or only see your email ?
[09:34] <IIIEars> Javiar_ - yes it's handy for AIM and Yahoo.
[09:34] <toxicfume> hi all
[09:34] <geargolem> can I change the root to a different name than I have?
[09:35] <Howitzer> i know but i can't put any channels in my favorites in X-Chat
[09:35] <Seveas> geargolem, the root of what?
[09:35] <uc50ic4more> javier_ - they see my nick, but one's e-mail is pretty easily get-able
[09:35] <javier_> but mines only see my email
[09:35] <userx1> I have 1 hard disk that is bootable to Ubuntu, and also have another Hardisk bootable to WindowsXP. Im currently using Ubuntu now, and I planned to also attached the Hardisk that contains WindowsXP.
[09:35] <javier_> and i have a nick writen in my account
[09:35] <userx1> What would happen ?
[09:35] <HappyFool> Howitzer: X-Chat -> Server list -> edit; add channels to join there
[09:35] <toxicfume> CAn I convert my ubuntu's partition's filesystem from EXT3 to ReiserFS?
[09:36] <uc50ic4more> javier_ - You may have to set your nick
[09:36] <geargolem> Seveas, where in a terminal it says yourname@yourplace
[09:36] <userx1> How do I set up Ubuntu so that during startup, I can choose what OS to boot
[09:36] <userx1> ?
[09:36] <Seveas> userx1, if you edit /boot/grub/menu.lst it will be able to boot the XP
[09:36] <javier_> i've already done
[09:36] <Seveas> geargolem, ah the name of the root account you mean?
[09:36] <uc50ic4more> javier_ - is it *all* of the protocols, or one in particular?
[09:36] <geargolem> Seveas, yes.
[09:36] <sysrq> userx1: as long as the ubuntu drive is the master drive you can use grub to boot windows
[09:36] <userx1> I want during startup, I have the option what to boot...
[09:36] <userx1> ok
[09:36] <Seveas> geargolem, you might be able to change it although it is difficult. but you really should *NOT* do that
[09:37] <synd-> !seen nalioth_wrkn
[09:37] <ubotu> synd-: i haven't seen 'nalioth_wrkn'
[09:37] <Seveas> things will break
[09:37] <synd-> !seen nalioth
[09:37] <ubotu> nalioth <~Apple@cpe-66-25-43-80.houston.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 3m 3s ago, saying: 'well gotta go to work'.
[09:37] <userx1> theres no other package for that ?
[09:37] <javier_> gmail with passport
[09:37] <synd-> damnit
[09:37] <geargolem> Seveas, very well.  thank you for your help
[09:37] <Seveas> userx1, if you edit /boot/grub/menu.lst it will be able to boot the XP <-- so that means on boot you get to choose...
[09:38] <refuze2looze> not an ubuntu question: is UATA the same as PATA?
[09:38] <userx1> IC :)
[09:38] <userx1> thanks a lot
[09:38] <IIIEars> !ubuntu
[09:38] <ubotu> I guess ubuntu is Open the gates To East and West Bring in all That's good and best. - Lenrie Peter
[09:38] <toxicfume> Can I convert my ubuntu's partition's filesystem from EXT3 to ReiserFS?
[09:38] <Seveas> toxicfume, you would loose all data on the partitions..
[09:38] <Tommy|> i need some help with vorbis support
[09:38] <sysrq> toxicfume: why don't you check google for something to convert it, and if you don't get any results you can't
[09:38] <javier_> uc50ic4more, i use gmail through passport
[09:39] <Tommy|> whenever i compile a file that requires vorbis i get the errors here: http://rafb.net/paste/results/apkigM63.nln.html
[09:39] <uc50ic4more> toxicfume - You will have to move everything on the partition in question, then convert, then move 'er all back
[09:39] <toxicfume> Seveas: ugh, that sucks. I can change from FAT32 to NTFS without losing anything, thought linux was be as cool.
[09:39] <uc50ic4more> toxicfume - grab the app gparted
[09:39] <Seveas> Tommy|, please paste the *complete* error...
[09:39] <toxicfume> uc50ic4more: oh, what if I don't have enough space?
[09:40] <uc50ic4more> javier_ - I am sorry - I have no experience with gmail
[09:40] <Seveas> and i guess you need libvorbis-dev
[09:40] <signius> FAT32 & NTFS are both proprietry files systems reisser and ext3 are nto related at all apart form neing journalling fiel systems
[09:40] <javier_> uc50ic4more - thanks
[09:40] <javier_> anybody uses gaim with a gmail account ?
[09:40] <toxicfume> oh okay
[09:40] <signius> wow dodgy typing tonight
[09:41] <uc50ic4more> toxicfume - You may be outta luck if you do not have enough room - I am sorry, but I am not aware of any utility that can do a "live" conversion from one file system to another
[09:41] <Tommy|> sevas, that is the complete error
[09:41] <toxicfume> uc50ic4more: even with dparted, I would have to move the files away and back?
[09:41] <Seveas> signius, i'd say :)
[09:41] <IIIEars> ubotu ubuntu is also "Canonical.ltd http://www.canonical.com/"
[09:41] <ubotu> IIIEars: okay
[09:41] <signius> if you want to use reisser why did you choose ext3 ?
[09:41] <Ben_Babcock> Apparently, I can't resize my existing NFTS partition . . . will running Disk Defragmenter several more times help?  (I've already run it once.)
[09:41] <Seveas> ehm, IIIEars ubuntu and canonical are not the same...
[09:41] <signius> what reason do you have to change ?
[09:41] <_drake> i just installed 5.04 kubuntu and im getting md5 sum mismatches on tons of packages.. anyone else having this issue?
[09:41] <dennis> Hello.
[09:41] <uc50ic4more> toxicfume - for what it is worth, I did exactly as you wish to do a week or so ago... I do have the space, and have been pleased with the ReiserFS
[09:41] <Seveas> _drake, look at the topic
[09:41] <Seveas> _drake: sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:41] <dennis> Can anyone tell me how I can find the ip address of my router?
[09:42] <Seveas> dennis, look at the manual of the thing..
[09:42] <IIIEars> Erm - Whew. that is a huge boo boo.
[09:42] <synd-> is openbox like fluxbox?
[09:42] <dennis> in linux though
[09:42] <uc50ic4more> dennis - google "what is my ip"
[09:42] <Tommy|> sorry about that
[09:42] <userx1> what is the command to know how much space has been used by Ubuntu on my Hardisk ?
[09:42] <IIIEars> ubotu forget ubuntu
[09:42] <ubotu> i forgot ubuntu, IIIEars
[09:42] <Tommy|> anyways, so that was the complete error
[09:42] <signius> You would need to have very specific requirements to warrant using reisser over ext3 and and if you had them requirements you would have chosen reisser to start with
[09:42] <uc50ic4more> dennis - your router's IP is teh one the world sees, so any web-based IP identification will tell you what you router is
[09:42] <toxicfume> uc50ic4more: oh okay, but how can i just "move" all of the data(including the OS itself, all the programs and seetingss and etc) and then move them all back and have them working again?
[09:42] <sysrq> synd-: no, openbox was completely rewritten for version 3 no longer using the blackbox base, and now uses xml for config files
[09:42] <dennis> Well, I have set my router to forward port 80 to my server....
[09:42] <uc50ic4more> dennis - ALSO, most routers use 192.168.0.1 for their config
[09:43] <geargolem> How may I make sure my nvidia card(graphics) is working properly?
[09:43] <dennis> I don't want to configure the router....
[09:43] <Tommy|> http://rafb.net/paste/results/apkigM63.nln.html < error on compiling anything with ogg vorbis support
[09:43] <LiberalTugboat> geargolem, in a CLI type glxgears
[09:43] <dennis> I just want the ip that I go to ...where the router will reroute me to the server...
[09:43] <LiberalTugboat> what fps are you getting
[09:43] <uc50ic4more> toxicfume - well, you could open nautilus, view the hidden & backup files, and copy them all over to another location, or use a bash script.. hang on and i iwll copy/ paste the script i use....
[09:43] <userx1> what is the command to know how much space has been used by Ubuntu on my Hardisk ?
[09:43] <Tommy|> =_=
[09:43] <Seveas> userx1, df -h
[09:43] <dennis> Okay...I got it :D
[09:43] <userx1> thanks
[09:44] <geargolem> LiberalTugboat, what is a good standard of FPS?
[09:44] <Tommy|> du -ch in /
[09:44] <uc50ic4more> userx - have you thought of simply using the System Monitor?
[09:44] <LiberalTugboat> anything over 1000 and you have 3d accell
[09:44] <Seveas> Tommy|, that's crap owhen using a lot
[09:44] <Seveas> and moreover: not what he asked for
[09:44] <Tommy|> hm
[09:44] <toxicfume> uc50ic4more: dont' i have to use someting like norton ghost to create an image and restore it to achieve what you're trying to say?
[09:44] <LiberalTugboat> glxgears isnt really a bench mark though
[09:44] <uc50ic4more> toxicfume - no norton ghost needed! this is from a ubuntuguide tutorial:
[09:45] <signius> if you use ghost it will use the same file system as what you ghosted
[09:45] <toxicfume> ohhh okay
[09:45] <Seveas> uc50ic4more, ubuntuguide is wrong stuff..
[09:45] <geargolem> LiberalTugboat, I'm getting 158 FPS on a GeForce 5200?
[09:45] <dennis> How would I setup a network between a freebsd machine and an ubuntu machine?
[09:45] <IIIEars> toxicfume - "Mondo" works nicely. creates iso or remote storage of images
[09:45] <uc50ic4more> toxicfume - tar cvpf /path/to/backup.tar / --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys --exclude=/media
[09:45] <LiberalTugboat> no your card is not working
[09:45] <Seveas> uc50ic4more, omg
[09:45] <Seveas> that's so much crap...
[09:45] <Tommy|> but, um, any help with the vorbis thing?
[09:45] <LiberalTugboat> did you follow the directions
[09:45] <aasics> What is the auto-mounting program in Ubuntu?  The one that automatically mounts CD-ROMS and USB devices?
[09:45] <uc50ic4more> toxicfume - that'll tar the entirety of the installation - ALSO you can add a "z" after the arguements to zip the thing
[09:46] <Seveas> Tommy|, do you have libvorbis-dev installed?
[09:46] <Seveas> aasics, pmount
[09:46] <Tommy|> yes, i recently upgraded it
[09:46] <Seveas> but only for usb stuff
[09:46] <aasics> Seveas, thanks
[09:46] <toxicfume> uc50ic4more: oh okay, and how do i restore after the partition has converted?
[09:46] <Seveas> aasics, floppy/cd are hadled in /etc/fstab
[09:46] <uc50ic4more> Seveas - did I illicit the "omg" because my advice was that awesome, or that anti-awesome?
[09:46] <geargolem> LiberalTugboat, checking the ubuntuguide now.
[09:47] <aasics> Seveas, I meant where it detected that you had just put in a CD
[09:47] <LiberalTugboat> geargolem, go here: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:47] <Seveas> aasics, that is handled by gnome-volume-manager and hal and a lot of magic is going on there...
[09:47] <geargolem> LiberalTugboat, already there. :)
[09:47] <uc50ic4more> toxicfume - hang on, I may have erred somewhere - Seveas said something to the effect of "omg - that is crap" after i posted that command
[09:47] <Lieter> i got a small question, can i install it on a partition to make my system dualboot without problems(as with linspire)
[09:48] <aasics> Seveas, hmm -- so what detects the connection of the USB device and mounts it?  pmount?
[09:48] <toxicfume> okay uc50ic4more
[09:48] <LiberalTugboat> geargolem,  have you run those to commands?
[09:48] <uc50ic4more> but in the abcense of a correction, to UNTAR the monster, do something like this:      tar xvpf backup.tar -C /
[09:48] <uc50ic4more>           and re-create directories we excluded:
[09:48] <uc50ic4more>           mkdir proc
[09:48] <uc50ic4more>           mkdir lost+found
[09:48] <uc50ic4more>           mkdir mnt
[09:48] <Seveas> aasics, the plug-n-play mechanism detects is, hal gets that event and uses dbus and pmount to do the actual mounting and showing the window
[09:48] <uc50ic4more>           mkdir sys
[09:48] <uc50ic4more>           etc...
[09:49] <Seveas> uc50ic4more, please do not paste in here...
[09:49] <aasics> Seveas, Oh, okay.  Thanks.
[09:49] <jbroome> smackdown
[09:50] <Seveas> uc50ic4more, and that tar command will wreak havoc on your syste,
[09:50] <Tommy|> seveas, libvorbis-dev is installed
[09:50] <Seveas> you should NOT use tar to backup your complete system...
[09:50] <toxicfume> uc50ic4more: oh, sorry that got you muted :(
[09:51] <rj`> i've used tar to back up several systems -- no problems
[09:51] <Seveas> rj`, it's no problem if you know what to do
[09:51] <Tommy|> -_-
[09:51] <Seveas> but taking random instructions from a webpage with errors means you don't know what you are doing
[09:51] <uc50ic4more> okay - first, what does "muted" mean. secondly, what is wrong w/ copying/ pasting stuff into here? thirdly, why does a TAR backup bugger things up?
[09:51] <rj`> except with udev -- and even then -- thats not an issue -- ubuntu just complained on startup and it was easy to fix.
[09:51] <IIIEars> ubotu paste is ""http://ubuntu.pastebin.com http://pastebin.com or #flood here on freenode.""
[09:51] <ubotu> okay, IIIEars
[09:51] <rj`> Seveas: I agree.
[09:51] <toxicfume> sorry, guess uw eren't muted
[09:52] <Frafra> hi
[09:52] <Frafra> when can i upgrade to breezy?
[09:52] <Seveas> uc50ic4more, pasting disturbs, for the tar: read what i said, and muted means that your text does not go to the channel
[09:52] <Funraiser> what's a good app that competes with NFS? I mean another NFS-like ?
[09:52] <rj`> Frafra: when it's released?
[09:52] <rj`> Funraiser: Samba?
[09:52] <uc50ic4more> Seveas - thanks - under what circumstances does one get oneself "muted" , and who does the muting?
[09:52] <oscarh> hi, how to set the modem init string when using the network manager in gnome?
[09:52] <Seveas> uc50ic4more, i muted you
[09:52] <rj`> Funraiser: or do you mean that keeps user permissions etc
[09:52] <Seveas> because you pasted
[09:53] <Seveas> the mode +q message you have seen are the muting
[09:53] <Frafra> rj`: i know that x in breezy doesn't works
[09:53] <rj`> Funraiser: AFS looks nice.
[09:53] <uc50ic4more> Seveas - ok - noted, and point taken
[09:53] <JDahl> Funraiser, AFS (e.g, openafs) is by far the most advanced solution, but no picknick to setup and maintain
[09:53] <Funraiser> rj`, for unix boxes only
[09:53] <userx1> I want to install a Flash Player but I dont know where is the installed mozilla firefox directory in Ubunt ?
[09:54] <Frafra> rj`: i would like to know when i can use breezy with x
[09:54] <Funraiser> what's the A for in AFS?
[09:54] <Seveas> userx1, ~/.firefox :)
[09:54] <Seveas> Funraiser, andrew
[09:54] <userx1> *Ubuntu
[09:54] <rj`> Frafra: it works fine -- im using breezy now -- it just broke alot of symlinks etc -- if you are able to fix your own problems then it's not so bad to use -- but no one in #ubuntu is going to give you help with your breezy problems
[09:54] <userx1> ah ic
[09:54] <userx1> :)
[09:54] <woolsherpahat> Anyone gotten their iPod to work with GTKpod?
[09:54] <Funraiser> does someone use AFS here?
[09:54] <Funraiser> NFS works fine but just wondering
[09:55] <rj`> I use AFS
[09:55] <userx1> Seveas, bash: /root/.firefox: No such file or directory ?
[09:55] <Seveas> userx1, not as root...
[09:55] <JDahl> Funraiser, I used to use it all the time... but openafs doesnt work that well with kernel 2.6... there are Ubuntu debs for the swedish version (Arla) which is also a fine implementation
[09:55] <userx1> im currently in root console now
[09:55] <_alex> Hello every one.
[09:55] <uc50ic4more> userx1 - it'll be in your *user* directory
[09:55] <Seveas> userx1, /usr/lib/firefox/plugins (something like that )
[09:55] <userx1> ah ic
[09:56] <rj`> and AFS works with windows too
[09:56] <userx1> :)
[09:56] <rj`> :)
[09:56] <_alex> I ve got a problem : xen i try to install k3b i get
[09:56] <_alex> k3b: Dpend: k3blibs (>= 0.11.23) mais ne sera pas install
[09:56] <_alex>        Dpend: kdelibs4 (>= 4:3.4.0) mais ne sera pas install
[09:56] <_alex>        Dpend: libarts1 (>= 1.3.2) mais ne sera pas install
[09:56] <_alex>        Dpend: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3) mais ne sera pas install
[09:56] <Seveas> _alex, do NOT paste in here
[09:56] <_alex> sorry
[09:56] <rj`> JDahl: and the recent release fixes alot of performance problems with 2.6.x
[09:56] <Seveas> _alex, try apt-get install libqt3c102-mt
[09:56] <yaaar> hehehe.....tough day for the op, Seveas?
[09:56] <Seveas> and see what happens
[09:57] <jbroome> he works hard for his @... he works hard for his @
[09:57] <_alex> 200 packages will be removed and none unchanged :'(
[09:57] <Funraiser> Seveas, its says it won't be installed
[09:57] <Seveas> _alex, hmmz
[09:57] <Seveas> are you running breezy?
[09:58] <Seveas> or have you installed stuff from marillat/other non-ubuntu repositories?
[09:58] <JDahl> rj`, the openafs client used to crash for me under heavy traffic, but that's probably more than half a year ago
[09:58] <_alex> Sepheebear: i tink i screwed an bit on my sources.list and now I have lots of reezy packages... Is tehre any way to downgrade packages ?
[09:58] <Seveas> _alex, given the errors i see, you are using non-ubuntu repositories
[09:58] <Seveas> _alex, no easy way
[09:58] <_alex> Seveas: yes
[09:59] <yaaar> can't you just fix sources.list and do a dist-upgrade?
[09:59] <Seveas> _alex, you should not use these repositories if you don't know pinning ...
[09:59] <Seveas> yaaar, that will not downgrade things
[09:59] <yaaar> that's jank
[09:59] <woolsherpahat> I repeat, can anyone help me with my ipod?
[09:59] <Seveas> _alex, remove all non-ubuntu repositories from your sources.list and retry
[09:59] <_alex> Seveas: I know... Actually I wasn't aware that synaptic was always taking the breezy when avaliable
[09:59] <Seveas> if it does not work: you have screwed up your system probably beyond repair
[09:59] <klaym> is it right that to upgrade from Warty to Hoary, you only need to change all references of Warty to Hoary in the sources.list, and then run apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade?
[09:59] <woolsherpahat> It's automounted just fine, but it cannont find the iTunesDB
[10:00] <woolsherpahat> permissions perhaps?
[10:00] <Seveas> klaym yes
[10:00] <yaaar> klaym, worked for me
[10:00] <Seveas> klaym: One-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[10:00] <Funraiser> all right thanks all tschuss!
[10:00] <woolsherpahat> /dev/sdb3 on /media/Chrome type hfsplus (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1002,gid=1002)
[10:00] <newbie01> where do i get additional info when qtparted says "there was a problem with mkfs.ext3 ?
[10:01] <_alex> Seveas: are you confident that a dist-upgrade will downgrade some of my packages... I did a fix in my sources list and ans upgrade but it didn't chang a thing
[10:01] <_Vice_> how do I run executable files
[10:01] <yaaar> newbie01, what are you trying to do?
[10:01] <wc_nix> k i need some help
[10:01] <wc_nix> for some reason samba is acting dumb
[10:01] <Seveas> _alex, i am confident that it will *not* downgrdae anything
[10:01] <woolsherpahat> _Vice_, ./foobar
[10:01] <newbie01> yaaar, i am trying to format a 160 gb ide disk with ext3
[10:01] <_alex> Seveas:Hum... that's what i thought
[10:01] <wc_nix> for some reason when i go into network and go to Windows Network it says 0 items now
[10:01] <wc_nix> when it worked earlier
[10:02] <wc_nix> any idea what may have caused it to stop working
[10:02] <yaaar> newbie01, and you've already fdisked it?
[10:02] <klaym> ok thank you! I'm now downloading dist-upgrade stuff. so after the install is done and I boot the computer, I should get all the extra programs and a new background, etc? or is it just the 'base' that has been changed
[10:02] <Seveas> klaym, the former
[10:02] <woolsherpahat> Hey thanks alot!
[10:02] <yaaar> newbie01, or, more to the point, there's a partition available for your mkfs operation?
[10:02] <HappyFool> speaking of backgrounds, have the calendar updates stopped forever ? *sniffle*
[10:02] <klaym> so if everything went ok, I'll be looking at a new background?
[10:02] <newbie01> yaaar, one partition is ok for me. do i still need anything "fdisk" (?)
[10:03] <Seveas> HappyFool, i guess :(
[10:03] <newbie01> yaaar, i hve to give you some more information sorry :
[10:03] <HappyFool> Seveas: i demand a refund!
[10:03] <yaaar> newbie01, so this isn't a dual-boot setup or anything like that?
[10:03] <_Vice_> woolsherpahat, meaning?
[10:03] <_alex> Seveas: You would recommend a clean reinstall and stopping doing stupid things on my sources.list or does it worth a shot to wait a bit for the kdelibs4 to be avalaible in repositories?
[10:03] <Seveas> _alex, the former
[10:03] <yaaar> hehehehe
[10:03] <woolsherpahat> _Vice_, is the script is called foobar, cd to it's directory and type ./foobar
[10:04] <_alex> Seveas: sorry about my English but I didn't catch "former"
[10:04] <aasics> Alex, meaning don't do the stupid things
[10:04] <wc_nix> fine
[10:04] <wc_nix> :-(
[10:04] <uc50ic4more> _alex - he refers to the first option
[10:04] <yaaar> _alex, former means "the first one" or "the one before"
[10:05] <_alex> ok thx (I learn a bunch of words here lol)
[10:05] <yaaar> _alex, you may have heard of "the artist formerly known as prince)
[10:05] <yaaar> "
[10:05] <_alex> Yes of course
[10:05] <userx1> is there a command that will autofit the screen on both sides of my monitor, since my first installation, its still my problem coz when I click on the Menu, it isnt aligned ?
[10:05] <newbie01> yaaar, the disk is running as hdc and its only a data harddisk so one partition with ext3 would be ok. the disk has got a bit screwed up history since i used gpart and testdisk (to recover a partition / successfully)
[10:05] <yaaar> newbie01, ok, so there's nothing on the drive you want?
[10:05] <_alex> yaaar: what about him?
[10:06] <yaaar> _alex, nothing.....just usage example
[10:06] <newbie01> yaaar, i backuped anything so we can kill it
[10:06] <yaaar> newbie01, ok, as root, run 'fdisk /dev/hdc'
[10:06] <yaaar> newbie01, then type 'p<enter>'
[10:07] <clee> who's in charge of hwdb.ubuntu.com?
[10:07] <uc50ic4more> newbie01 - and you have made sure that the disk is *not* currently mounted before you start trying to create file systems in gparted?
[10:07] <Seveas> clee, ogra
[10:07] <_alex> k so I will do that thank you ll for your help, see you around on IRC !
[10:07] <clee> Seveas: hm. not around, I take it?
[10:07] <Seveas> clee, check #ubunut-motu
[10:07] <Seveas> clee, check #ubuntu-motu
[10:07] <newbie01> uc50ic4more, mount does not show anything about hdc
[10:08] <yaaar> (on my meatware)
[10:08] <userx1> thanks :)
[10:08] <wc_nix> guess nobody can help me
[10:08] <newbie01> yaaar, fdisk says " The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 19929......" something wrong with the geometry ?
[10:08] <marin> when I start the system appears a message that says its unable to start HAL
[10:08] <marin> what I should do?
[10:09] <newbie01> yaaar, p returns : " /dev/hdc1   *           1       19929   160079661   83  Linux"
[10:09] <Seveas> wc_nix, what was the problem?
[10:09] <yaaar> newbie01, ok that sounds fine
[10:09] <wc_nix> Samba
[10:09] <wc_nix> it was working fine earlier and i could see computers on my windows network
[10:09] <wc_nix> but now it's broken
[10:09] <Seveas> hmm
[10:09] <wc_nix> i go to Windows network and it says 0 Files
[10:09] <yaaar> newbie01, run (as root) mke2fs -j /dev/hdc1
[10:09] <wc_nix> :-(
[10:09] <Seveas> smb://ip_of_the_pc/ does not work?
[10:09] <Seveas> (in nautilus)
[10:10] <wc_nix> lemme try that command one sec
[10:10] <Seveas> not a command
[10:10] <mach> hi, is there Freepascal ubuntu package available?
[10:10] <wc_nix> you know what i meant
[10:10] <Seveas> just something to type in the nautilus address bar
[10:10] <newbie01> yaaar, is working
[10:10] <yaaar> cool
[10:10] <HappyFool> Seveas: works in ff too
[10:10] <Seveas> HappyFool, ah, ubuntu ff is gnome-vfs aware i guess
[10:10] <Seveas> nice
[10:10] <marin> can anybody tell me what's HAL?
[10:10] <yaaar> newbie01, i've never used qparted, so i figured best to just use the raw stuff
[10:11] <Seveas> marin, hardware abstraction layer
[10:11] <Seveas> something that does nice things between drivers and applications
[10:11] <yaaar> i thought it was that evil computer
[10:11] <wc_nix> wont work
[10:11] <marin> I see
[10:11] <wc_nix> says PW incorrect, when it's correct
[10:11] <yaaar> that killed all those dudes on their way to jupiter
[10:11] <HappyFool> yaaar: it is. "I'm sorry Dave, but I'm afraid I can't eject the CD"
[10:12] <yaaar> yeah!
[10:12] <Seveas> wc_nix, maybe someone changed it on the windows machine?
[10:12] <Seveas> lol @ HappyFool
[10:12] <wc_nix> i own it
[10:12] <wc_nix> and i didnt change it
[10:12] <wc_nix> :-\
[10:12] <Seveas> hmm, /me puzzled
[10:12] <marin> and what can I do?
[10:12] <marin> its not started
[10:13] <newbie01> yaaar, "df -h : /dev/hdc              151G   33M  143G   1% /mnt/hdc" its a 160 gb. pretty much gone
[10:13] <yaaar> HappyFool, that's great.....two days ago my roommates cd drive finally gave it up.....and ubuntu refused to boot.....hang right after "Loading EVMS"
[10:13] <wc_nix> now it works
[10:13] <wc_nix> wow, how'd be damned
[10:13] <wc_nix> :-\
[10:13] <yaaar> newbie01, so, does it mount now? can u do stuff w/ it?
[10:13] <Seveas> wc_nix, lol :)
[10:13] <wc_nix> thanks Seveas
[10:13] <Seveas> some glitch in the network ;)
[10:13] <wc_nix> yeah
[10:14] <wc_nix> glitch in the matrix: 0101101001001200010101001001
[10:14] <Seveas> marin, does it happen on every boot?
[10:14] <Seveas> 01100111 01101100 01101001 01110100 01100011 01101000 00100000 01101101 01100001 01110100 01110010 01101001 01111000
[10:14] <newbie01> yaaar, i mounted it and could wirte to it. but 151 is not its size. instead it should be 160 gb
[10:14] <wc_nix> lol
[10:14] <marin> I don't know
[10:14] <yaaar> wc_nix, this reminds me a lot of back when i had a bunch of win98 machines. shit like that was always hapening......just had to restart a bunch mostly
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[10:14] <marin> should i try to restart?
[10:14] <Seveas> marin, please do
[10:14] <marin> ok
[10:15] <wc_nix> ew @ Windows 98
[10:15] <wc_nix> brrr
[10:15] <wc_nix> lol
[10:15] <yaaar> newbie01, 160GB is prolly in "salesman's GB" ....1GB==1000MB. Linux is showing you real GB....1GB==1024MB
[10:15] <Octane> has anyone here gotten jre (java) 1.5 to work on amd64?
[10:15] <wc_nix> this sucks, i installed all of the dependencies for gnome-art-0.2
[10:15] <wc_nix> and i installed the app
[10:16] <wc_nix> but when i try to open it it wont open
[10:16] <wc_nix> RAWR
[10:16] <Seveas> wc_nix, thats -rwxr-xr-x
[10:16] <Seveas> :p
[10:16] <uc50ic4more> newbie01 - I could be wrong, but remember that the file system itself consumes a fair amount of space, and may skew the reported "capacity" of the drive
[10:16] <wc_nix> or chmod 755
[10:16] <wc_nix> lol
[10:16] <yaaar> uc50ic4more, naw, i'
[10:16] <yaaar> uc50ic4more, ill bet it's the 1000/1024 discrepency
[10:17] <Mqadhsa> is it > /dev/null or < /dev/null ?
[10:17] <optik> >
[10:17] <optik> feed this > /dev/null
[10:17] <uc50ic4more> yaaar - you mean manufacturers may "fudge" the quote the capacity of their drives using "fuzzy math"?! gASP! :-P
[10:17] <optik> > = into
[10:17] <Mqadhsa> optik,  so this is correct su ammanfun -c "/home/ammanfun/shoutcast-1-9-4-linux-glibc6/sc_serv  > /dev/null" &
[10:17] <luxer> I was wondering if anyone actually has a clue as to how module loading is supposed to work on ubuntu?
[10:18] <Seveas> luxer, fortunately many people have
[10:18] <luxer> i have both modprobe.d and modutils
[10:18] <yaaar> uc50ic4more, it's not really fudging....it's just using the friendly definition of gigabyte. computers typically use the other one
[10:18] <newbie01> uc50ic4more,   yaaar, i know this but another computer lost with a hd (sam size, ntfs) 9 gb. and not 17 gb
[10:18] <optik> Mqadhsa:  yes, tht should work perfectly
[10:18] <luxer> on the system
[10:18] <luxer> I'm wonding why there is no modprobe.conf
[10:18] <Madeye> thank you optik
[10:18] <optik> Mqadhsa:  < means read from and > means output into
[10:18] <luxer> does running update-modules actually do anything?
[10:18] <optik> not a prob
[10:18] <Seveas> luxer, modules.conf
[10:19] <optik> BRB : Restarting to fit new HDD
[10:19] <uc50ic4more> newbie01 - different file systems require differing amounts of space - try formatting a drive w/ the reiserfs :)
[10:19] <newbie01> uc50ic4more / yaaar : df -h output is " /dev/hdc              151G   33M  143G   1% /mnt/hdc"
[10:19] <luxer> Seveas: there is no modules.conf
[10:19] <Madeye> How to read data which forwarded to /dev/null ?
[10:19] <HappyFool> luxer: man update-modules says 'obsolete' ;)
[10:19] <Seveas> luxer, in /etc
[10:19] <yaaar> newbie01, look, this is real straightforward. 1024*1024*1024*151==162135015424
[10:19] <luxer> HappyFool: yeah
[10:19] <luxer> so I'm trying to use modprobe.d
[10:19] <luxer> but I don't know where or if any of those changes get picked up
[10:20] <Seveas> luxer, if you simply want to add modules it's /etc/modules
[10:20] <HappyFool> luxer: what do you want to do?
[10:20] <luxer> i need to pass module options for ivtv
[10:20] <luxer> something like:
[10:20] <mcking> luxer: changes to modprobe.d take effect immediately
[10:20] <luxer> alias char-major-81 videodev
[10:20] <luxer> alias char-major-81-0 ivtv
[10:20] <luxer> alias char-major-81-1 ivtv
[10:20] <luxer> options cx25840 i2c_enable=1 no_black_magic=1
[10:20] <luxer> options wm8775 mixer=2
[10:20] <luxer> options ivtv ivtv_std=1 tuner=47,47
[10:20] <luxer> in /etc/modprobe.d/ivtv
[10:20] <Seveas> luxer fool...
[10:20] <Seveas> don;t paste in here
[10:20] <luxer> is what I'm trying to do
[10:21] <Gskillet> Question: Does Ubuntu come with all basic files needed in compiling?
[10:21] <bobc> luxer: I put mine in modutils
[10:21] <Seveas> Gskillet, they are on the cd
[10:21] <luxer> bobc: that works?
[10:21] <bobc> see the ubuntu guide on mythtv.info
[10:21] <nxv_> i am trying to compile ogre with the howto from http://ubuntuusers.de/wiki/programmierung:ogre3d_compilieren when i come to ./bootstrap in the ogre dir
[10:21] <black13> does ubuntu have debootstrap
[10:21] <Seveas> Gskillet, sudo aptitude install build-essential
[10:21] <Seveas> black13, of course...
[10:21] <Gskillet> thanks
[10:22] <nxv_> it tells me my automake is too old, automake ist 1.4 but i have installed automake 1.9, how can i point it to use it
[10:22] <black13> Seveas, so what is the diff betten debian and ubuntu
[10:22] <bobc> luxer: http://mythtv.info/moin.cgi/UbuntuInstallation has a section on installing ivtv
[10:22] <luxer> bobc: ty
[10:22] <Seveas> nxv_, sudo update-alternatives --config automake
[10:22] <yaaar> black13, goals, release schedule, community.....
[10:23] <black13> yaaar, i have read on /. that debian is slow to release
[10:23] <Seveas> yaaar, that is one of the best summaries of the definitions i have seen so far, mind if i steal it? :)
[10:23] <nxv_> Seveas: thx
[10:23] <yaaar> all yours Seveas
[10:23] <Seveas> black13, that should be improving
[10:23] <Seveas> tnx :)
[10:24] <AnitaL> I'm installing Ubuntu now after not being able to get firefox going on Kubuntu
[10:24] <AnitaL> Is it likely I'll be able to get it and bluefish going on Ubuntu?
[10:25] <yaaar> black13, well, if you saw it on /., must be true. my own post for the sarge release story went something like "my next three commands are 'apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade; apt-get install duke-nukem-forever'
[10:25] <uc50ic4more> AnitaL - what was the problem initially w/ Firefox on Kubuntu?
[10:25] <popey> AnitaL:  i have bluefish and firefox running under ubnutu
[10:25] <black13> Seveas, i have been able to build xorg from source on ubuntu and it seems to work pretty well
[10:25] <black13> yaaar, man what ever happend to dukenukem ...
[10:25] <AnitaL> no gtk
[10:26] <black13> yaaar, i waited for years for another with more bells wistles like doom3
[10:26] <uc50ic4more> AnitaL - if you prefer KDE over gnome, you could just install gtk, no?
[10:26] <popey> AnitaL: apt-get instal libgtk?
[10:26] <AnitaL> popey, will I be able to install the cvs bluefish and the firefox 1.04 from the firefox site?
[10:26] <yaaar> black13, but traditionally debian has been a slowly-plodding, extremely stable, fantastic server system. as long as you can stand older packages, it's great. but it's not really too well-tuned for the desktop
[10:26] <popey> AnitaL: dunno, never done it, I use the deb packages
[10:26] <Seveas> AnitaL, why not the ubuntu-supplied package of firefox?
[10:26] <Seveas> and yeah, it's possible...
[10:26] <uc50ic4more> AnitaL - with the correct repositories (is bluefish in "main?) you can grab all you need
[10:26] <yaaar> black13, lots of us waited for years on that one. I hear MS longinthetooth will come with it preinstalled
[10:26] <yaaar> ;-P
[10:27] <black13> yaaar, i have been trying to make a gentoo stage3 tarball bootable but im giving up ... i hate gentoos bootscripts
[10:27] <popey> uc50ic4more: yes, bluefish is in main iirc
[10:27] <Seveas> bluefish is in universe...
[10:27] <popey> oh
[10:27] <AnitaL> uc50ic4more, and popey I just didn't know what to apt-get for
[10:27] <Seveas> AnitaL, aptpget install bluefish
[10:27] <Seveas> AnitaL, apt-get install bluefish
[10:27] <yaaar> black13, oh man i can't disagree enough. proper credit to ubuntu for being easy on the user and a good solid desktop system, but gentoo is my true love
[10:27] <hussam> how do I set an environment variable " export blah=something" in my user account only ?
[10:27] <AnitaL> I was trying to use kynaptic and had my sources.list set to universe
[10:28] <icu2> hi people i have questions bout screen resolution under ubntu, cant get past 600*480 even if i install the latest drivers for my "card", its an intel extreme graphics card integrated onto a intel 845gvsr motherboard
[10:28] <AnitaL> ubuntu is going to have gtk, right?
[10:28] <Seveas> hussam, only in the shell or also in the desktop?
[10:28] <Seveas> AnitaL, yes
[10:28] <concept10> Seveas, what was that player you told me about yesterday?  BMP beep media player?
[10:28] <uc50ic4more> AnitaL - yes it will sport gtk
[10:28] <archster> does kubuntu have gtk?
[10:28] <Seveas> concept10, beep-media-playeer
[10:28] <Seveas> archster, if you install it: yes
[10:28] <yaaar> black13, but i'm not sure why you'd make a stage3 bootable.......seems any of the preexisting livecd systems would be more useful, and you can install gentoo from just about any running *nix system
[10:28] <hussam> Seveas: in shell ( bash )
[10:28] <archster> ah so
[10:28] <black13> yaaar, i use gentoo for servers as well but i find tring to make a bootable cd ... when it comes to the boot scripts hard
[10:29] <Seveas> ubuntu and kubuntu have the same packages, just a different set of default installed packages
[10:29] <AnitaL> and if I want to go back to kubunty, I install libgtk.  I didn't know what it was I was looking for.  Kynaptic did not show anything like that with gtk in it
[10:29] <black13> yaaar, i could never get catalyst working
[10:29] <Seveas> hussam, add it to ~/.bashrc
[10:29] <yaaar> black13, well, i don't doubt that....although, are you using catalyst?
[10:29] <yaaar> black13, ah, well that answers that ;-)
[10:29] <Seveas> AnitaL, just apt-get install bluefish
[10:29] <AnitaL> I used to run debian and know apt-get
[10:29] <Seveas> it will install libgtk with it...
[10:29] <black13> yaaar, maybe im slow witted
[10:29] <AnitaL> Seveas, you mean in kubuntu?
[10:30] <yaaar> black13, i dunno....i never really tried or cared to build my own livecd
[10:30] <Seveas> AnitaL, both in kubuntu and ubuntu
[10:30] <Seveas> it's basically the same distro
[10:30] <icu2> hi people i have questions bout screen resolution under ubntu, cant get past 600*480 even if i install the latest drivers for my "card", its an intel extreme graphics card integrated onto a intel 845gvsr motherboard
[10:30] <AnitaL> Ok, so in sources I just need to set it to universe, then?
[10:30] <hussam> Seveas: I just add export something=sonething at bottom of ~/.bashrc?
[10:30] <black13> yaaar, i have one now as we speak but ... its like house of cards i get so high then things topple
[10:30] <Seveas> AnitaL, make your sources.list look like the one on http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/38
[10:30] <Seveas> hussam, yes
[10:31] <yaaar> black13, i always kind of thought it would be neat to build one that was a barebones livecd that automatically started a script to bootstrap and build the system and whatever packages i wanted,.,....but i never really got working ont
[10:31] <Seveas> hussam, well, before any exit statements of course...
[10:31] <Seveas> yaaar, the ubuntu livecd is easy customizable..
[10:31] <Seveas> icu2: To find out ho you can change your dispplay's resolution, go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:31] <yaaar> black13, yeah, i've gotten too high while installing gentoo once or twice.....i just go to bed and pick it up in the morning .....hehehehehehe
[10:31] <black13> yaaar, that would be night but design are much much more narrow ... i have actually built really small things uclibc base using squashfs
[10:32] <archster> is there a page with packages search for the *buntus .. something like the  http://www.archlinux.org/packages.php  one for arch ? .. oh .. I bet u can use the debian package pages search pages  .. ???
[10:32] <Seveas> archster: You can browse the Ubuntu repository at http://higgs.djpig.de/ubuntu/www
[10:32] <Seveas> oops, old url
[10:32] <HappyFool> archster: packages.ubuntu.com ?
[10:32] <archster> but which debian release would you search? the sid one?
[10:32] <Seveas> archster, go to the url HappyFool said
[10:32] <yaaar> archster, prolly sarge if i was doin t
[10:33] <archster> going
[10:33] <AnitaL> Thanks all.  I'll use that sources.list.  I think that was the missing piece.
[10:33] <icu2> Seveas, thanks man!
[10:33] <yaaar> Seveas, that's not a bad plan....maybe i'll build an ubuntu livedisc with a scripted gentoo install...
[10:33] <black13> yaaar, have been able to get catalyst to work?
[10:33] <yaaar> black13, never even tried it out
[10:34] <yaaar> black13, every time i've installed i just started with the minimalist cd and did everything by hand
[10:34] <black13> yaaar, ah! if orielly came out with a book "using gentoo catalyst" i would purchase it
[10:34] <yaaar> stage one is the only way to go
[10:35] <archster> tnx for the link .. bookmarked it
[10:35] <black13> yaaar, im lazy i use do stage3 then rebuild
[10:38] <black13> i have wanted to build somthing that purely source base but i am now think that this is tillting at wind mills
[10:38] <yaaar> black13, ever looked at linux from scratch?
[10:39] <black13> i tried getting my mind around using GAR (lnx-bbc) but i could grok that sucka
[10:39] <yaaar> it's pretty hardcore. i did it once.....took me forever
[10:39] <black13> and LFS ... again same issue i spend 2 months trynig to get lfs to work
[10:39] <black13> learnd a tremendous about about how glibc and gcc work
[10:39] <robert> how do I get a screenshot from command line?
[10:40] <jadam> how do I change my gnome menu
[10:40] <jadam> ie add or remove programns from it
[10:40] <Seveas> icu2, pong...
[10:40] <black13> yaaar, i am no think to heck with it. i have technic that takes the binaries stripps all
[10:40] <uc50ic4more> jadam - there is a neat utility called SMEG
[10:40] <jadam> ok thanks
[10:41] <black13> unneed files info files man pages and unneed libs ... i have bootscripts from debian ...
[10:41] <Seveas> icu2, opening private chats without asking is bad netiquette, please don;t do that
[10:41] <Seveas> jadam, look at www.realistanew.com for smeg
[10:41] <jadam> ok
[10:41] <icu2> Seveas, sorry didnt mean to do that dint know either, wont be happening again
[10:41] <Seveas> or poke Amaranth when he is here
[10:41] <jadam> thanks Seveas, was just going to ask =)
[10:42] <moparfan90> i ordered a free CD from you. when will i get it??
[10:42] <hypa7ia> ca and us repos still messed up?
[10:42] <Seveas> hypa7ia, yes
[10:42] <Seveas> moparfan90, a few days after it is sent...
[10:42] <hypa7ia> any idea on how long till that gets fixed?
[10:42] <Seveas> hypa7ia, ENOIDEA
[10:43] <moparfan90> how long does it take to get sent?
[10:43] <Seveas> moparfan90, can take quite some time unfortunately
[10:43] <Seveas> when did you order?
[10:43] <hypa7ia> thanks Seveas
[10:43] <moparfan90> yesturday
[10:44] <Seveas> moparfan90, ah, well expect it to take a few weeks
[10:44] <Tuxicity> hello all
[10:44] <moparfan90> oo.ok'
[10:44] <Tuxicity> I have a weird problem...
[10:44] <Seveas> Tuxicity, don't we all :)
[10:44] <uc50ic4more> Seveas - would not moparfan90's global location *grossly* affect the time it'd take to get the CD's? Are the CD's sent from England? I bet moparfan90 is in the U.S. :)
[10:44] <Seveas> hoary cd's were sent from holland
[10:44] <Tuxicity> Seveas, lol
[10:44] <Psycho|JKL|> what tool does ubuntu use to set up sound?
[10:44] <Seveas> Psycho|JKL|, esd
[10:45] <Seveas> (Enlightenment Sound Daemon)
[10:45] <Psycho|JKL|> all sound drivers were removed
[10:45] <Psycho|JKL|> and i need to setup sound again
[10:45] <moparfan90> im using SUSE linux. is ubuntu realy better??
[10:45] <Psycho|JKL|> no
[10:45] <Seveas> moparfan90, depends on what you call better
[10:45] <Seveas> i'd say it definitely is
[10:46] <moparfan90> well i do  internet and games and other crap....
[10:46] <Psycho|JKL|> my brother uses ubuntu
[10:46] <Seveas> good defaults, really nice release schedule and absolutely great upgrading
[10:46] <moparfan90> is it good for that
[10:46] <Psycho|JKL|> im tryin to help him out
[10:46] <Seveas> moparfan90, sure
[10:46] <Seveas> for games suse and ubuntu do not differ that much
[10:46] <syntaxerror64> i like ubuntu i am a new linux user and it was real easy to setup
[10:46] <Psycho|JKL|> how exactly do i get his sound driver back
[10:46] <Psycho|JKL|> so he has sound
[10:47] <Seveas> Psycho|JKL|, why did you remove it at the first place??
[10:47] <Psycho|JKL|> i didnt
[10:47] <Seveas> well, who did then?
[10:47] <Psycho|JKL|> but it wasnt working
[10:47] <moparfan90> i have some windows programs how can i install them on linux???????????
[10:47] <Seveas> moparfan90, wine might help there
[10:47] <Burgundavia> moparfan90, some will work using wine
[10:47] <uc50ic4more> moparfan90 - WINE
[10:47] <Burgundavia> moparfan90, which programs?
[10:47] <Psycho|JKL|> linux has alot of programs that are LIKE windows programs
[10:47] <moparfan90> STEAM
[10:47] <moparfan90> for a gmae
[10:48] <moparfan90> game
[10:48] <Psycho|JKL|> is there a sound config where he can set it back up
[10:48] <^thehatsrule^> ew :/
[10:48] <Psycho|JKL|> i know with my gentoo theres an alsaconfig
[10:48] <Seveas> Psycho|JKL|, system->preferences->sound
[10:48] <Tuxicity> Suddenly, I cant load google.com anymore in either FireFox or Lynx.
[10:48] <Hablandocontigo> How can I view streaming video through firefox, like from websites like gamespot.com
[10:48] <Seveas> Tuxicity, dns troubles?
[10:48] <Gskillet> Question: How do I install Kernel sources?
[10:48] <Tuxicity> Seveas, how can I fix that?
[10:48] <Seveas> Hablandocontigo, install the mplayer plugin for firefox
[10:49] <Psycho|JKL|> that doesnt set up sound Seveas
[10:49] <Psycho|JKL|> thats for system beeps
[10:49] <Seveas> Tuxicity, well if it are dns problems, you should wait for your provider to fix it
[10:49] <Seveas> Psycho|JKL|, well, you also enable/disable esd there
[10:49] <Seveas> and simce ubuntu needs esd for sound....
[10:49] <Tuxicity> Seveas, no no, other PCs on my LAN have no problems
[10:49] <groundhogslayer> I have 2 DVD drives and I can't get Totem to see the DVD disk, I have DVD working with gxine, can I get Totem to work?
[10:50] <Psycho|JKL|> we dont see where you enable esd in that menu
[10:50] <Psycho|JKL|> enable sound server startup
[10:50] <Seveas> Tuxicity, well then it probably isn't dns :)
[10:50] <Psycho|JKL|> but thats already checked
[10:50] <Gskillet> How do I install Kernel sources on Ubuntu?
[10:50] <Seveas> Psycho|JKL|, is it an audigy card?
[10:50] <kbrooks> Gskillet, You don't.
[10:50] <Psycho|JKL|> no
[10:50] <Psycho|JKL|> CHAINTECH
[10:50] <Seveas> hmm
[10:51] <Psycho|JKL|> 7.1 channel PCI
[10:51] <Seveas> Psycho|JKL|, do you have a /dev/dsp ?
[10:51] <Seveas> Gskillet, why would you want the sources?
[10:51] <Seveas> Gskillet, it's easy to install them but often not needed
[10:51] <moparfan90> i tried getting wine to work and i cant can someone help me? i have AIM and ICQ
[10:51] <Gskillet> Seveas: im trying to compile drivers for a wireless pcmcia card
[10:51] <Psycho|JKL|> nope he doesnt
[10:52] <Seveas> Gskillet, you need to run: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[10:52] <Tuxicity> Seveas, Google tries to make an inbound connection to my PC everytime I load google.com, and Firestarter blocks it
[10:52] <Seveas> Psycho|JKL|, so the drivers aren't loaded
[10:52] <Gskillet> Seveas: and those are kernel sources?
[10:52] <Psycho|JKL|> right
[10:52] <Seveas> Gskillet, those are the headers, but you only need those
[10:52] <Psycho|JKL|> how do i get the correct ones there and laoded
[10:52] <moparfan90> ok bye
[10:52] <Psycho|JKL|> loaded*
[10:52] <Gskillet> Seveas: ok thanks
[10:53] <Hablandocontigo> I'm using the mplayer mozilla plugin but I am only getting audio and no video what could be the problem?
[10:53] <Seveas> Psycho|JKL|, by modprobe'ing the correct drivers, but since i don't have the card i don't know which are the good drivers. Try searching the ubuntu forum ore google
[10:53] <Seveas> Gskillet, which driver are you trying to compile?
[10:54] <Psycho|JKL|> well what would you do for a soundblaster
[10:54] <Gskillet> Seveas: hostap-driver-0.3.9
[10:54] <Seveas> Gskillet, afaik, hostap is in the repositories
[10:54] <SeamusLP> Hablandocontigo:  Perhaps you don't have the proper video codec for what you're trying to view?
[10:54] <Gskillet> Seveas: its the newest release i just downloaded and made it
[10:54] <Seveas> ah ok :)
[10:54] <Gskillet> Seveas: those headers worked for me thanks
[10:55] <TheBlue> Hi all.
[10:55] <Tuxicity> I'm doomed if I cant even load google... :-\
[10:55] <TheBlue> Does anyone know if Ubuntu can dual boot with windows?
[10:56] <Tuxicity> TheBlue, sure it can
[10:56] <Burgundavia> TheBlue, yes
[10:56] <TheBlue> I figured.
[10:56] <klaym> hello! I just converted from warty to hoary. how can I check now if I'm running hoary?
[10:56] <Burgundavia> TheBlue, I would install windows first
[10:56] <Seveas> TheBlue, it cannot, it will eat your windows install and make your harddrive explode ;)
[10:56] <TheBlue> ....
[10:56] <SeamusLP> Tuxicity:  Perhaps your DHCP server is having issues, have you checked to see if you have an IP?
[10:56] <Seveas> klaym, cat /etc/issue
[10:56] <TheBlue> Is it Debian or RPM based?
[10:57] <Seveas> debian
[10:57] <Seveas> no stinking rpms
[10:57] <TheBlue> I see.
[10:57] <Tuxicity> SeamusLP, I have a WAN IP, yes.
[10:57] <ghostless> How can I burn a cdi CD image?
[10:57] <black13> debootrap fails to download bsdmainutils
[10:57] <Seveas> welcome aboard TheBlue
[10:57] <Seveas> black13, md5sum error>
[10:57] <Seveas> ?
[10:57] <TheBlue> I'm not new to Linux, just ubuntu.
[10:57] <klaym> Seveas: it says warty warthog :P
[10:57] <SeamusLP> Tuxicity:  okay hold on just one second, I'm going to give you an IP to ping
[10:57] <TheBlue> Thanks, Seveas.
[10:58] <black13> Seaveas, how to fix?
[10:58] <Seveas> klaym, ehm, then you have not completely upgraded :)
[10:58] <black13> Seaveas, or ignore
[10:58] <klaym> I changed sources.list to refer to hoary, made apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[10:58] <klaym> is there more I need to do?
[10:58] <Seveas> black13, by not using the us.archive.ubuntu.com mirror
[10:58] <SeamusLP> Tuxicity:  Load up a command line and type ping 216.239.37.99
[10:58] <Seveas> klaym, do you have ubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop installed?
[10:58] <klaym> ubuntu-desktop
[10:58] <Funraiser> do u know if this http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/productdetails.aspx?pid=036 works on linux?
[10:59] <Seveas> klaym, hmm, it should be updated then...
[10:59] <black13> Seveas, different mirror?
[10:59] <Seveas> black13, are you installing ubuntu or running debootstrap manually?
[10:59] <SeamusLP> Tuxicity: tell me if you get a reply...
[10:59] <Burgundavia> Funraiser, the finger print reader probably doesn't
[10:59] <klaym> actually, it's not checked in synaptic
[10:59] <black13> Seveas, running debootrap manually
[10:59] <klaym> ubuntu-desktop package I mean
[10:59] <Tuxicity> SeamusLP, 0% packet loss, I get lots of replies
[10:59] <Seveas> klaym, sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[10:59] <klaym> should I check it?
[10:59] <Seveas> yes
[10:59] <hypa7ia> aQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQW
[11:00] <hypa7ia> OOPS CAT
[11:00] <Seveas> black13: sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:00] <SeamusLP> Tuxicity:  That means that your DNS server is having troubles.  Because you were pinging google.com's IP address just then ;)
[11:00] <hypa7ia> sorry about that
[11:00] <Seveas> black13, in other words don't use us.archive.ubuntu.com :)
[11:00] <robert> What app can I use to grab a screenshot from bash?
[11:00] <Tuxicity> SeamusLP, :o :D lol
[11:00] <Seveas> robert, alt+printscreen
[11:00] <robert> Seveas, 'app'
[11:00] <Seveas> robert, or use the gimp
[11:00] <Funraiser> Burgundavia, too bad
[11:00] <dooglus> Seveas: from bash, I guess he wants to script it
[11:01] <robert> i was gonna say, don't mention gimp...
[11:01] <SeamusLP> Tuxicity:  If your other machines are not having this trouble, check to see if you're using the same DNS
[11:01] <robert> i'm looking for a specific program i can't remember the name of...
[11:01] <black13> Seveas, yep that is the mirror i am using
[11:01] <robert> it's just command line
[11:01] <groundhogslayer> I lost the launcher how do I get it back to the desktop
[11:01] <dooglus> xgrabscreen, or something, right?
[11:01] <Seveas> black13, then enter the sed command i gave you and you will no longer be using that mirror and you can be happy again :)
[11:02] <jadam> has anyone downloaded that game nexiuz?
[11:02] <robert> dooglus, doesn't sound familiar
[11:02] <yoness> is ubuntu a good choose to use if its your first time with linux?
[11:02] <jadam> yoness: yeah
[11:02] <Seveas> robert, screendump
[11:02] <wdh> yoness, yup
[11:02] <yoness> aight
[11:02] <Seveas> yoness, it's an excellent choice
[11:03] <jotape> somebody plays hattrick???
[11:03] <robert> not it either...
[11:03] <Seveas> but you should not expect another reply in #ubuntu :)
[11:03] <yoness> its what i heard Seveas
[11:03] <robert> ah well
[11:03] <robert> thanks anyway
[11:03] <syntaxerror64> yoness: i tried fedora core 3 before ubuntu but went to ubuntu and have found it extremely easy to use
[11:03] <Tuxicity> SeamusLP, hmm it appears the other PC has different DNS entries...
[11:03] <jadam> yoness: the package system in ubuntu is great =)
[11:03] <yoness> ok i see
[11:03] <jadam> tons and tons of apps
[11:04] <yoness> i tested the live cd yesterday
[11:04] <black13> Seveas, do you have a mirror you preffer?
[11:04] <black13> Seveas, or suggest
[11:04] <Seveas> black13, archive.ubuntu.com
[11:04] <Seveas> it's the main mirror
[11:04] <jadam> yoness: dont forget you can download lots of themes for gnome from gnome.org too =)
[11:04] <Seveas> se.archive.ubuntu.com is good too
[11:04] <black13> Seveas, thank you
[11:04] <yoness> what about the uptime?
[11:04] <SeamusLP> Tuxicity:  Well you can probably get the right ones by reconnecting to the DHCP server...
[11:04] <Gskillet> Anyone know anything about getting hostap drivers to support monitor mode?
[11:04] <syntaxerror64> yondess: i have found this package business to still be a bit weird, but overall it's been very nice
[11:04] <wdh> yoness, its still linux.. so uptime will be fine :)
[11:05] <Tuxicity> SeamusLP, how?
[11:05] <squirrelkiller> I lost my app toolbar on the desktop how do I get It back?
[11:05] <Seveas> Gskillet, try the hostap@shmoo.com mailing list
[11:05] <yoness> nice
[11:05] <jadam> how do I switch window managers without logging out?
[11:05] <Hablandocontigo> How can I get the latest firefox? I can't install extensions untill then.
[11:05] <Seveas> jadam, ehm, you can't...
[11:05] <Tuxicity> SeamusLP, oh oh I see
[11:05] <jadam> ok
[11:05] <jadam> log out it is then
[11:05] <wdh> jadam, you dont :) unless you just open a new session
[11:05] <Seveas> Hablandocontigo, you can
[11:05] <Seveas> Hablandocontigo: Open firefox and in about:config set general.useragent.vendorSub to 1.0.4
[11:06] <SeamusLP> Tuxicity:  On your ubuntu box that's having the trouble, you can go into system -> administration -> networking and deactivate / activate it
[11:06] <syntaxerror64> Hablandocontigo: you actually have 1.0.4, they just left it 1.0.2 for some reason
[11:07] <black13> Seveas, are there tools to "slim" down debian/ubuntu
[11:07] <Seveas> black13, 'slim' down..?
[11:07] <Seveas> what do you mean with that
[11:08] <JDahl> black13, Debian at least can be arbitrarily slim if you use expert install
[11:08] <black13> once you have installed every thing to remove unned lib files or remove the apt infrascture man pages
[11:08] <Seveas> black13, well you can purge packages you don't want
[11:08] <Seveas> and unneeded dependencies can be removed with debfoster
[11:08] <toshiba_> Installed mplayer and mozilla plugins from synaptics. Want to watch a trailer in Firefox. Mplayer loads till 25%, then says "playing [urlhere] ", then freezes. No picture, Same loading screen w/ the level bar. Any ideas?
[11:08] <Seveas> debfoster is the bomb :)
[11:08] <james__> Can I apt-get the rubyonrails framework from anywhere?
[11:09] <Seveas> toshiba_, some movies have that, try another movie...
[11:09] <toshiba_> Seveas, um, all quicktime movie giving that.
[11:09] <black13> are there any tools that say given a set of necessare executables it would say these are files you need
[11:09] <AlanHorkan> thanks all, bye
[11:09] <dooglus> robert: how about this:  xwd -root | convert - dump.png
[11:09] <Seveas> toshiba_, hmm, do you have a quicktime codec installed?
[11:09] <Seveas> dooglus, ewww :)
[11:10] <dooglus> Seveas: what?
[11:10] <toshiba_> Seveas, pretty sure, cos mplayer loads when i want to watch a quicktime movie in firefox..
[11:10] <black13> my first couple of
[11:10] <Hablandocontigo> This Firefox extension a little funny: U.S. Homeland Security Threat Level 0.4 (displays the current Homeland Security Threat Level as an icon in the status bar)
[11:10] <dooglus> Seveas: nobody else came up with a non-interactive solution...
[11:10] <Seveas> black13, what do you mean? like needed libraries? apt does that..
[11:11] <black13> JDahl, my first guess is i could remove all the man pages all info files all of apt and the remove all of the static libraries header files in
[11:11] <Seveas> dooglus, it's a great solution indeed, but somehow... a well ignore me ;)
[11:11] <Tuxicity> SeamusLP, trouble is my LAN uses static IPs :-o
[11:11] <Seveas> black13, you should not remove apt...
[11:12] <JDahl> black13, what is your goal? I doubt manpages make a big difference...
[11:12] <SeamusLP> Tuxicity:  You can do that with a DHCP server.  I take it you don't have one, though?
[11:12] <SeamusLP> Tuxicity:  I believe you can modify /etc/resolv.conf or use the networking admin tool to change your DNS servers
[11:12] <Tatster> Which version of Debian is Ubuntu most like?
[11:13] <Seveas> SeamusLP, if you use dhcp, resolv.conf will be rewritten all the time
[11:13] <Seveas> you can tell dhclient.conf not to do that
[11:13] <SeamusLP> Seveas:  He doesn't appear to be using dhcp
[11:13] <Tuxicity> SeamusLP, my router can act as a DHCP server, but since I want static IPs, I disable dit
[11:13] <dooglus> robert, Seveas: ok, how about "import -window root dump.png" (from package imagemagick)
[11:13] <caleb_> not too familiar w/ .debs.  whats the command to manually install one that i have downloaded?
[11:13] <black13> Seveas, here is what i am thinking spliting up what i retrieve form debootrap into two pieces ... i use deboostrap to make a working chroot it has allthe elements to get work done to compile and link sofor then a target immage that has been slimmed down has no header files no static libraries .. it is a subset of the first chroot
[11:14] <SeamusLP> Tuxicity:  Alright, you'll need to add the DNS servers from the computers that are working properly...
[11:14] <Tuxicity> calc, dpkg -i package.deb
[11:14] <dooglus> taking a snapshot of my desktop shows me that I have some icons on my desktop off the top of the right-hand screen.  can I move them down, so they're visible?
[11:14] <Tuxicity> calc, sory, wrong nick
[11:15] <Tuxicity> caleb_, dpkg -i package.deb
[11:15] <JDahl> hey tritium, long time no see...
[11:15] <squirrelkiller> lost the clock and app toobar help
[11:15] <caleb_> Tuxicity: thanks
[11:16] <Seveas> squirrelkiller, go to the other toolbar and right-click and select new panel
[11:16] <squirrelkiller> ok
[11:16] <tritium> Hey JDahl.  Yep.  How are you?
[11:16] <SeamusLP> Tuxicity:  An ideal way to do static IP addresses is to use reserved addresses on a DHCP server...
[11:17] <JDahl> tritium, pretty good thanks... is your defence coming along nicely?
[11:17] <tritium> JDahl, not too bad.  If I can write about 20 more pages, I'll be satisfied.  I have about 4 more weeks to write.  :)
[11:17] <J35U5> anyone know how to install something that is a .run file?
[11:17] <Gskillet> Anyone know how to put the latest hostap driver into Monitor ModE?
[11:18] <Seveas> J35U5, sh filename.run, but what are you trying to install?
[11:18] <Seveas> Gskillet, try the hostap@shmoo.com mailing list
[11:18] <Seveas> iwconfig [interface]  mode monitor
[11:18] <Gskillet> ok
[11:18] <Seveas> that should work if it is possible
[11:18] <yaaar> J35U5, I'd actually chmod +x file.run and then do ./file.run ...just in case it's not a bash script....
[11:19] <Tuxicity> SeamusLP, you think my router can do that??
[11:19] <tritium> JDahl, what's new with you?
[11:19] <Gskillet> Seveas:  SET failed on device eth1 ; Invalid argument.
[11:19] <wc_nix> hey
[11:19] <JDahl> tritium, not that much actually...
[11:19] <Seveas> Gskillet, ask the mailing list then
[11:19] <wc_nix> is there a way to rip the packages off of a distro
[11:19] <wc_nix> for example, Knoppix STD or Whoppix
[11:20] <SeamusLP> Tuxicity:  No clue, I use a headless linux box as a router ;)  do it how you want, but in your current setup you need to add DNS servers manually.
[11:20] <bpuccio> wc_nix: sure, find their deb, save it, and then sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[11:20] <Tatster> Has anyone got Open-Xchange running on Ubuntu?
[11:20] <wc_nix> find their deb?
[11:20] <wc_nix> it's a distro
[11:20] <wc_nix> *.iso, a CD image
[11:20] <seth_k> a deb is a program package, look on the CD and rip them out
[11:20] <wc_nix> didnt know it has debs on cd
[11:20] <wc_nix> i couldnt find any
[11:20] <zukalk> hey all
[11:21] <bpuccio> wc_nix: you said you wanted a package, a package is a deb file
[11:21] <wc_nix> i'm saying the liveCD is loaded with apps
[11:21] <dooglus> given a .deb file, is there any way of listing the files it would install if I installed it?
[11:21] <wc_nix> but i cannot get to the apps
[11:21] <xirtam> i changed from debian to ubuntu (because of xorg ... ) when i use apt-get install foo i get on different packages a checksum error ...Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libg/libgnomecanvas/libgnomecanvas2-0_2.10.0-0ubuntu1_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch ex. ... any ideas about that?
[11:21] <wc_nix> is there a way to rip the apps somehow from the livecd
[11:21] <bpuccio> installed apps are different then packaged app
[11:21] <Seveas> xirtam, look at the topic
[11:21] <bpuccio> xirtam: please see the topic
[11:21] <squinn> Question.
[11:21] <Seveas> xirtam: sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:21] <Seveas> and retry...
[11:22] <squinn> Um, I had compiled some drivers..and I wished not to use them anymore. Would a make clean in its directory = an uninstall
[11:22] <J35U5> Seveas, enemy territory
[11:22] <Seveas> squinn, make uninstall
[11:22] <squinn> ah, thanks
[11:22] <xirtam> Seveas: thx! sorry i haven't seen ..
[11:23] <squinn> Seveas, make: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'.  Stop.
[11:23] <Tatster> Are there other Ubuntu IRC channels because this one always seems SO busy?
[11:23] <Rocha> Hello
[11:23] <Seveas> squinn, then manually remove everyting it created :)
[11:23] <zukalk> Hi
[11:23] <yaaar> squinn, maybe 'make deinstall'
[11:23] <yoness> can you install ubuntu on a hdd with ntfs?
[11:23] <Seveas> make clean will help a bit
[11:23] <bpuccio> Tatster: I know of a developers channel (only if you develop, not really for users at all) and there's several for different languages I think
[11:23] <Seveas> yoness, rofl
[11:23] <Seveas> of course not
[11:23] <Rocha> Where can I report some packages that are not installable from the repositories?
[11:24] <yoness> so i need to make it fat32 then?
[11:24] <SeamusLP> yoness: go for it, surprise us all ;)
[11:24] <Seveas> Rocha, what's the problem?
[11:24] <Seveas> yoness, no
[11:24] <Seveas> ext3
[11:24] <Rocha> Seveas, I can't install xchm
[11:24] <yoness> :O
[11:24] <Seveas> ubuntu cannot be installed on windows filesystems
[11:24] <Seveas> Rocha, what's the error?
[11:24] <Rocha>   xchm: Depends: libwxgtk2.5.3 (>= 2.5.3.2ubuntu2) but it is not installable
[11:24] <yoness> how can i change it to ext3 then?
[11:24] <Tatster> bpuccio: Thanks - I guess I'll just have to try and catch a quiet time here!
[11:25] <squinn> #ubuntu-languages; #ubuntu-doc, #ubuntu-devel, #ubuntu-hard, #ubuntu-kernel, #ubuntu-love, #ubuntu-motu, #ubuntuforums, #ubuntuforums-mods
[11:25] <SeamusLP> yoness:  You don't use proprietary windows filesystems for installing linux
[11:25] <squinn> are the other Ubuntu channels, Tatster
[11:25] <SeamusLP> yoness:  At the install you will be given the option to partition and format
[11:25] <yaaar> yoness, the linux ntfs driver lacks write support.....because one of the developers' employers got into a shared-source agreement with MS, and then MS threatened a lawsuit against the guy (even though he never used the shared-source agreement to view the ntfs code)
[11:25] <Seveas> Rocha, are you using us.archive.ubuntu.com?
[11:25] <Rocha> Seveas, nop, pt.archive.ubuntu.com
[11:25] <yaaar> so the ntfs driver pretty much halted develoment
[11:25] <eb0x> is there a way to get my cd burner working?
[11:25] <Tatster> Squin, thanks
[11:25] <yoness> aight
[11:25] <bpuccio> thanks squinn
[11:25] <Seveas> yaaar, moreover: ntfs/fat lack a lot of needed stuff like permissions
[11:26] <Rocha> Seveas,   jde: Depends: bsh but it is not installable
[11:26] <Seveas> Rocha, what happens if you try to apt-get instal libwxgtk2.5.3
[11:26] <bpuccio> Tatster: why are you looking for a quiter channel?
[11:26] <SeamusLP> Seveas:  NTFS supports file permissions
[11:26] <yaaar> Seveas, well, you could get by without them....it would just leave security in a bad place
[11:26] <Rocha> Seveas, Package libwxgtk2.5.3 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[11:27] <Seveas> SeamusLP, but not all the file property bits that are needed
[11:27] <Gskillet> I am getting this error trying to run AirSnort, anyone know what i need to make this work? /sbin/wlanctl-ng: No such file or directory
[11:27] <Seveas> Rocha, seems like your sources.list is screwed up, can you post it at ubuntu.pastebin.com please
[11:27] <Tatster> Just because I have popped in here a few times - asked a question and not had it answered because it got lost in other conversations
[11:27] <Rocha> Seveas, i can't install only this two packages
[11:28] <bpuccio> Tatster: hmm, ask again, maybe I can help (probably not, but maybe)
[11:28] <Seveas> Rocha, well, i think the reason is in your sources.list...
[11:28] <Rocha> Seveas, should i use the archive.ubuntu.com repository ?
[11:28] <Tatster> bpuccio, I am trying to find out if anyone has got Open-Xchange running on Ubuntu.
[11:29] <Carrus85> quick question... what does it mean when it says "Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block 287188"? (this repeats 3 times than says "dpkg-deb (suprocess): error in buffer_read(stream): failed to write to pipe in copy: Input/output error")
[11:29] <Rocha> Seveas, Query failure: Can't open file: 'pastebin.MYI'. (errno: 145)
[11:29] <Seveas> Rocha, pt.archive.ubnuntu.com is good too, but there are other things that can be wrong in that file, so i'd like to see it
[11:29] <Seveas> Rocha, use pastbin.kaarsemaker.net then
[11:29] <Gskillet> Where can I download "wlanctl-ng"?
[11:30] <bpuccio> Tatster: I'm sorry, i've never even heard of Open-Xchange until now, though now that I look at their website, it does seem neat.... you might want to trying getting in touch with this guy: http://www.open-xchange.org/cgi-bin/simpleforum.cgi?fid=05&topic_id=1116310826
[11:30] <Rocha> Seveas, how do i use this thing?
[11:31] <Seveas> Rocha, open /etc/apt/sources.list in a text editor and copy-paste its contents on that page
[11:31] <Rocha> Seveas, it redirects me to http://www.kaarsemaker.net/
[11:31] <Seveas> hmm
[11:31] <Tuxicity> SeamusLP, hey, what's a "Search Domain" in Network Settings?
[11:31] <Seveas> pastebin.kaarsemaker.net
[11:31] <Seveas> i made a typo :|
[11:32] <seth_k> Tuxicity, I believe if you specify only a hostname and it is not found, it will append the search domain to the hostname and search on that
[11:32] <the--dud> hi folks :)
[11:32] <Seveas> seth_k, correct :)
[11:32] <Rocha> Seveas, done
[11:32] <seth_k> ah, thanks for the confirm Seveas :)
[11:32] <deansweb2004> Where can I get a list of soruces for apt-get?
[11:33] <seth_k> deansweb2004: http://ubuntuguide.com
[11:33] <seth_k> deansweb2004: see "How can I add extra repositories?"
[11:33] <Seveas> Rocha, your sources.list is quite bad, since all is disabled :)
[11:33] <squinn> deansweb2004, http://ubuntuguide.net
[11:33] <squinn> not .com
[11:33] <squinn> take that back
[11:33] <squinn> .org
[11:33] <deansweb2004> lol cheers
[11:33] <squinn> http://ubuntuguide.org
[11:33] <squinn> lol
[11:33] <deansweb2004> i was wondering why it wasnt working lol
[11:33] <squinn> i checked that time
[11:33] <Seveas> Rocha, go to http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/38 and put these lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list (you need to run sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list to put them there)
[11:34] <seth_k> haha, we're both wrong. It's ubuntuguide.org
[11:34] <Seveas> squinn, don't use ubuntuguide
[11:34] <Seveas> there is AddingRepositoriesHowto on the wiki
[11:34] <Seveas> that's MUCH better
[11:34] <Rocha> Seveas, i'm not using hoary, i'm using breezy
[11:34] <james__> I' trying to install some software and get this: configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[11:35] <Seveas> Rocha, well then you're screwed anyway
[11:35] <seth_k> james__, is the software you want not available through apt-get?
[11:35] <Tuxicity> seth_k, thanks, but could you give me an example?
[11:35] <Seveas> breezy is massively broken and this channel does not support it
[11:35] <Rocha> Seveas, only breezy has a recent mono version
[11:35] <Gskillet> Where can I download "wlanctl-ng"?
[11:35] <seth_k> Tuxicity, I better defer to Seveas on that
[11:35] <james__> don't think so, I'm trying to get the RUbyOnRails framework
[11:36] <Seveas> you can leave search domain empty
[11:36] <Rocha> Seveas, thanks anyway for the help
[11:36] <Seveas> Rocha, you can still use the sources.list i gave you
[11:36] <Seveas> just substitute hoary for breezy
[11:36] <Rocha> Seveas, ok
[11:37] <Seveas> and comment out the breezy-security and breezy-updates
[11:37] <james__> seth_k, don't think so, I'm trying to get the RUbyOnRails framework
[11:37] <deansweb2004> what is a good music player?
[11:37] <caonex> why do i have an rpm folder in my /usr/src ?
[11:37] <deansweb2004> for playing mp3 files
[11:37] <Seveas> deansweb2004, beep-media-player, totem, vlc, amarok
[11:37] <Seveas> rhythmbox
[11:38] <deansweb2004> can these be obtain though apt-get?
[11:38] <seth_k> yes
[11:38] <seth_k> :)
[11:38] <Seveas> deansweb2004, yes
[11:38] <Octane> has anyone here gotten a Realtek ALC850 (VIA 8237) to work properly?
[11:38] <zukalk> deansweb2004 and good old XMMS
[11:38] <james__> deansweb2004, I use rythmbox that comes with ubuntu
[11:38] <Octane> im pulling hairs
[11:38] <SeamusLP> deansweb2004:  I just use rhythmbox, the default.  You can add mp3 support easily.
[11:38] <Seveas> i'd recommend beep-media-player and rhythmbox
[11:38] <Rocha> deansweb2004, use Muine (i think it's the best)
[11:38] <concept10> Any Streamtuner, streamripper users here?
[11:38] <gnoob> so i see that Ubuntu is sponsored by Canonical.  How exactly does Canonical make money?
[11:38] <Seveas> gnoob, by providing paid support
[11:38] <maruko`> when `badblocks` finds some badblocks, does it save the list to the disk so that linux wont try to use it?
[11:38] <Seveas> gnoob, see the ubuntu homepage
[11:39] <SeamusLP> gnoob:  "paid support", they say.  But also becaus mark shuttleworth has a crapload of money anyway.
[11:39] <Rocha> Seveas, and can I change archive to pt.archive too?
[11:39] <seth_k> right now they don't make money, sabdfl gives them eleven majillion dollars
[11:39] <deansweb2004> it keeps saying couldnt find pacakge for muine
[11:39] <gnoob> Seveas; ah, ok, i am at the canonical website.
[11:39] <Strife> does anyone know offhand the homepage for the x.org 'radeon' drivers? I'm searching, but thus far haven't found it
[11:39] <gnoob> SeamusLP; how did he make his money?
[11:39] <Seveas> Rocha, yes, but it's the same machine anyway so it is not needed
[11:39] <Rocha> deansweb2004, maybe it's only available in breezy, forget about it then, use rhythmbox
[11:39] <Gskillet> Where can I download "wlanctl-ng"?
[11:39] <deansweb2004> k
[11:39] <SeamusLP> gnoob:  I dunno, successful business ventures.  I think he paid the russians 30 million or something to go into space awhile back.
[11:39] <Seveas> Strife, sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[11:39] <squinn> Gskillet, I believe it comes with linux-wlan-ng
[11:39] <gnoob> oh, that guy
[11:40] <Seveas> Strife: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:40] <seth_k> gnoob: he created thawte
[11:40] <Gskillet> squinn: ok
[11:40] <gnoob> i see
[11:40] <Rocha> Seveas, it's the same machine?????
[11:40] <seth_k> gnoob: and then sold it for a ton of money
[11:40] <Seveas> Rocha, yes
[11:40] <squinn> Gskillet, sudo apt-get install linux-wlan-ng
[11:40] <Octane> which package does one need to play mp3s?
[11:40] <Gskillet> squinn: thanks
[11:40] <_Gesha_> hi all
[11:40] <Rocha> Seveas, so it's international traffic for me?
[11:40] <seth_k> Octane: gstreamer0.8-mad
[11:40] <gnoob> interesting
[11:40] <gnoob> thanks for all the info
[11:40] <Strife> Seveas: I don't want to install anything, I want to know where the driver's web page is, because my card with 'radeon' doesn't have 3d acceleration yet, but it does with fglrx
[11:40] <concept10> Seems Canonical's goal is to make a good desktop distro and then offer paid support
[11:40] <Seveas> Rocha, tyoe this in a terminal: host archive.ubuntu.com; host pt.archive.ubuntu.com
[11:40] <Octane> seth_k,  thanks man
[11:41] <seth_k> does anyone know motu policy on accepting packages? I have a package from upstream, built on a clean Breezy box, was thinking about having them examine it
[11:41] <seth_k> but is my first time, so am nervous
[11:41] <SeamusLP> deansweb2004:  You probably need to add the universe and multiverse repositories.  You can do that in synaptic.
[11:41] <Rocha> Seveas, thank
[11:41] <gnoob> so a good desktop distro that just broken enough to make people call for support. :) j/k.
[11:42] <Seveas> seth_k, they are not predators ;)
[11:42] <seth_k> I know, I know, Seveas... fear of the unknown :D
[11:42] <Seveas> seth_k, good packages are always welcomed
[11:42] <matthew_w> Hey - This is a pretty newbie question but... under gnome.. how do I add items to the menu?  Like... the little foot menu? lol
[11:42] <seth_k> but I really would love to get into building for Ubuntu
[11:42] <Seveas> and if the package is not good enough they will give instructions on how to improve it
[11:42] <seth_k> matthew_w: go to the Ubuntu forums, go down near the bottom, click on Menu Editor Project, download smeg
[11:42] <SeamusLP> matthew_w: http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/
[11:43] <david> Hey, I've got a question about downloading packages from the universe. Can somone help?
[11:43] <Seveas> david, read the topic: just ask
[11:43] <seth_k> matthew_w: current version of gnome has no menu editor, how nuts is that? smeg fills the gap for now. Current unstable Ubuntu has a menu editor
[11:43] <david> k, when i try to download libpng12-dev_1.2.8rel-1_i386.deb, i get an MD5Sum mismatch
[11:43] <Rocha> Seveas, it's still broken the package
[11:44] <david> how can i download the package
[11:44] <Rocha> Seveas, try to install it in your computer please, to see if it's also an hoary problem
[11:44] <SeamusLP> matthew_w:  i'd use the install script on that page to isntall it, its pretty nice.
[11:44] <Seveas> Rocha, well, that's what you get for using a broken distri
[11:44] <Seveas> david look at the topic
[11:44] <Seveas> david: sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:45] <Rocha> Seveas, i can download the package by hand, no problem with that
[11:45] <david> what will that do?
[11:45] <Seveas> Rocha, it installed just fine here
[11:45] <seth_k> david, us archive is messed up
[11:45] <seth_k> david, it will switch your repos to main archive
[11:45] <Rocha> Seveas, and "jde" ?
[11:45] <Seveas> david, that will stop you from using a broken repository :)
[11:46] <david> ok, thanks im gonna try that
[11:46] <seth_k> Seveas, ca.archive is having the same problems... is topic changing condoned here?
[11:46] <Seveas> seth_k, ca.archive is the same machine as us.archive
[11:46] <seth_k> ah, seen
[11:47] <Octane> YES
[11:47] <Octane> !!!!
[11:47] <ubotu> I don't know, Octane
[11:47] <Octane> !!!!
[11:47] <Octane> MY SOUND WORKS AND MY GRAPHIC WORK IM SO HAPPY
[11:48] <Seveas> lol :)
[11:48] <quam> haha
[11:48] <Octane> wait, that includes myself
[11:48] <seth_k> ewww, I'm straight! :D
[11:48] <SeamusLP> ack, violation
[11:48] <seth_k> and the bot
[11:48] <Octane> bot okay, me no :DDDD
[11:48] <quam> haha, dont celebrate, nothing ever stays the way you want it :P
[11:48] <Octane> quam, oh so true
[11:48] <Octane> its so funny, while i tried to do everything in the world, the two solutions were the easiest
[11:49] <Octane> i had to actually enable glx and i had to get some packages for mp3s, duh duh duh
[11:49] <quam> i've fixed my sound about 15 times now :P
[11:49] <SeamusLP> quam:  I've changed my sound setup about that many times.  Finally happy now.
[11:49] <Octane> not for the trickie things -- nfs and apachage
[11:49] <deansweb2004> how can you play music from sharedplaces on the network?
[11:49] <Octane> SeamusLP, what do you have to change?
[11:49] <Seveas> deansweb2004, yes
[11:49] <Seveas> oh, 'how'
[11:50] <Seveas> well, if you mount a samba share all programs can play it
[11:50] <deansweb2004> k
[11:50] <Tuxicity> How in the world can an onboard network adapter brake?
[11:50] <Seveas> if you use nautilus and smb://something you need a gnome-vfs-aware player like totem or beep
[11:50] <deansweb2004> how do you mount?
[11:50] <bpuccio> Tuxicity: I don't know, surge over cat5 cable?
[11:50] <SeamusLP> Octane:  Well just recently all I did was use the defaults, change ESD to stop hogging the sound device.  Before that I was using libesd-alsa and getting some strange issues.
[11:50] <dennis> Hello.
[11:51] <Seveas> deansweb2004, mount -t smbfs etc....
[11:51] <Seveas> deansweb2004, read man mount
[11:51] <bpuccio> hi dennis
[11:51] <dennis> Does anyone know how to set default programs for file formats?
[11:51] <dennis> Like for mp3's....I want them to open with rythmnbox instead of totem and I dont want to right click :)
[11:51] <GazaM> right click, properties, open-with
[11:51] <Seveas> dennis, right mouseclick on a file of that format and it's domewhere in the menu
[11:51] <dennis> k
[11:52] <dennis> Has anyone gotten cedega to work on Ubuntu?
[11:52] <matthew_w> Problem solved, installed smeg.  Thanks.
[11:52] <david> dennis, im working on it
[11:52] <dennis> Is it hard?
[11:53] <david> not really
[11:53] <dennis> k
[11:53] <SeamusLP> dennis:  All I did was follow the instructions on the cedega site
[11:53] <dennis> And does anyone know whats up with the flash support with firefox in linux
[11:53] <Gskillet> Has anyone gotten FakeAP to work?  Wont run .pl script, keeps saying: ./fakeap.pl: line 19: use: command not found
[11:53] <dennis> ....it sucks ass
[11:53] <nemik> dennis, not that bad, i got it to work
[11:53] <Seveas> Gskillet, ehm
[11:54] <Seveas> Gskillet, try perl -w fakeap.pl
[11:54] <SeamusLP> dennis flash just straight up sucks in linux, macromedia is neglecting us.  No matter what I do I can't stop the asynchronous video/audio problem.
[11:54] <Gskillet> Seveas: ok
[11:54] <JDahl> SeamusLP, I can still punch the monkey and win an ipod with firefox
[11:55] <Gskillet> Seveas: that works thanks
[11:55] <JAyRULE> yo
[11:55] <SeamusLP> JDahl:  heh that's nice, but I'd really like to be able to watch homestarrunner without irritation ;)
[11:55] <JAyRULE> anyone have problems running xmms?
[11:55] <Seveas> JAyRULE, no sound when playing mp3?
[11:56] <david> Seveas, thanks what you told me worked, except i got an error saying that the repository wasnt found
[11:56] <Seveas> (or any file)
[11:56] <JAyRULE> there is sound...but xmms hangs when i try to play an mp3 file
[11:56] <Seveas> JAyRULE, change the xmms output plugin to esound
[11:56] <SeamusLP> You may not have mp3 support installed, or you may be using the wrong output plugin
[11:56] <dennis> Hmm, well what I meant was like stuff like the myspace messenger...it is flash
[11:56] <xabbu|> Anyone in here plays Nexuiz? And is abel to have xmms or so in the background?
[11:56] <JDahl> SeamusLP, I was trying to point out that most people can live happily without flash - since most applications of it seems quite useless
[11:56] <IRCMonkey> who speak spanish there?
[11:56] <zukalk> JAyRULE: xmms's been acting weird too. i changed the output to OSS
[11:57] <JDahl> SeamusLP, but maybe I am wrong
[11:57] <dennis> And I only use it because this chicks dad blocked all the ports for messengers on their computer...
[11:57] <Seveas> david, do an apt-get update
[11:57] <dennis> so its the only thing she can use....
[11:57] <dennis> IRCMonkey, yo hablo espanol un poco
[11:57] <dennis> ;)
[11:57] <Seveas> IRCMonkey, #ubuntu-es
[11:57] <JAyRULE> oh okay...ill give that a shot
[11:57] <dennis> Can anyone help me with my flash problems...
[11:57] <IRCMonkey> como hago para comunicarme con los creadores de ubuntu?
[11:57] <david> seveas, yup that fixed it
[11:57] <SeamusLP> JDahl:  Yeah most applications are, and that's probably been the common sentiment against implementing an open source version.
[11:57] <concept10> what is the easy way to print man pages?
[11:57] <Seveas> IRCMonkey, #ubuntu-es please
[11:57] <zukalk> JAyRULE: you can try Esound too
[11:57] <Seveas> zukalk, do NOT use OSS
[11:58] <Seveas> OSS is deprecated..
[11:58] <zukalk> Seveas: how so?
[11:58] <IRCMonkey> how can I speak with the proyect ubuntu?
[11:58] <Seveas> concept10, man -t | lpr
[11:58] <dennis> Seveas, is there any way to fix the flash shit? The myspace messenger doesn't work in firefox in ubuntu very well....and it is the only way I can talk to some people...:(
[11:58] <IRCMonkey> thank you seveas
[11:58] <Seveas> dennis, flash is sucky
[11:58] <JAyRULE> its hanging right now...is there a way to close it?  i didnt see it using "top"
[11:59] <dennis> Yes but it is the only way. I cna talk to her :x
[11:59] <Seveas> and unfixable since it is closed source and macromedia ignores linux
[11:59] <dennis> :(
[11:59] <Seveas> dennis, only the there-is-no-sound-in-flash problem is fixable
[11:59] <SeamusLP> What kinds of problems are you having with flash?
[11:59] <dennis> Like...I can't type in the text box and shit...
[11:59] <JAyRULE> well..brb
[11:59] <SeamusLP> Ack, doubt anyone can help you there
[12:00] <dennis> Yeah :(