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fir3 | Hi all | 12:14 |
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kalenedrael | hello | 12:14 |
fir3 | I need some help with my DVD drive... | 12:14 |
seth_k | ask away | 12:14 |
fir3 | ...its not recognised by the kernel | 12:15 |
fir3 | "/dev/hdc" is missing | 12:15 |
kalenedrael | 1) are you sure it's /dev/hdc? | 12:16 |
fir3 | yes and the jumpers are set correctly | 12:16 |
kalenedrael | ok | 12:16 |
fir3 | dmesg: NFORCE3-250: BIOS didn't set cable bits correctly. Enabling workaround. | 12:16 |
kalenedrael | hm | 12:16 |
fir3 | strange isn't it? | 12:17 |
fir3 | dmesg: ide1: Wait for ready failed before probe ! | 12:19 |
ijuz | did you jumper it master or cs? | 12:19 |
fir3 | master | 12:20 |
ijuz | so retry with cs | 12:20 |
fir3 | for both drives? | 12:20 |
ijuz | i has allready such odd things, it may help | 12:21 |
ijuz | probably also the cable is trash | 12:21 |
fir3 | well, maybe, but I really hate to say that: it works on windoze | 12:22 |
ijuz | yes, unfortunally ide is a fpos with the documentation the same | 12:24 |
ijuz | oh, one thing | 12:25 |
ijuz | is the master at the end of the cable? | 12:25 |
seth_k | yes | 12:25 |
seth_k | slave in middle | 12:25 |
ijuz | (it should be this way) | 12:25 |
fir3 | yes | 12:25 |
fir3 | what is fpos? | 12:26 |
ijuz | fucking piece of shit | 12:26 |
fir3 | okay | 12:26 |
fir3 | it really is! | 12:26 |
fir3 | at least as long as it don't wirk | 12:26 |
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fir3 | I guess I'll really have to try another cable... | 12:28 |
fir3 | sick of trying now | 12:28 |
fir3 | thank you guys | 12:28 |
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tibal | hi ! | 12:34 |
tibal | is it possible to disable the passphrase ask in Kmail on gpg signed mail sending ? | 12:35 |
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tibal | i know it's unsecure... but only localy so what about typing a 35 caracters pass everyday | 12:36 |
seth_k | tibal, not directly | 12:40 |
seth_k | tibal, see http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_KMail_gpg-agent_kde | 12:40 |
seth_k | gpg-agent is your answer | 12:40 |
tibal | seth_k: tx i read it | 12:40 |
tibal | seth_k: is it necessary to create ~/.kde3.3/env ? will ~/.kde/env work since i don't have any ~/.kde3.3/ ? | 12:43 |
seth_k | tibal, that's a gentoo wiki, so yeah i'd adopt it for Kubuntu | 12:43 |
tibal | seth_k: yes | 12:44 |
tibal | bye | 12:46 |
seth_k | you're welcome *sigh* | 12:46 |
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Tm_T | phuoh | 01:09 |
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_freak | hi all. | 01:35 |
seth_k | hi | 01:37 |
_freak | stupid question. Is LINUX pronounced with a long i like the i in line or with a short i like the i in linen? | 01:38 |
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seth_k | linen | 01:41 |
quickbrownfox | folks. kubunto install freezes at "setting up xlibs" | 01:42 |
quickbrownfox | and on boot it freezes at "sysenter_past_esp" | 01:42 |
quickbrownfox | any ideas? | 01:42 |
KaiL_ | something is broken with a your disk or b your system | 01:43 |
KaiL_ | or c both *g* | 01:43 |
Mez | _freak, actualluy, line... not linen... :D | 01:43 |
seth_k | Mez, it's not a long I O_O | 01:43 |
_freak | uh oh. | 01:44 |
Mez | seth_k, | 01:44 |
Mez | LINUS | 01:44 |
seth_k | it's 'lih-nux', not 'liy-nux', unless you're a brit maybe :D | 01:44 |
quickbrownfox | crap | 01:44 |
KaiL_ | seth_k: it is ;) | 01:44 |
seth_k | I know, I know | 01:44 |
Mez | pronounced same as the LINU in that | 01:44 |
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KaiL_ | but Tm_T might know better, he speaks the same language as Linus ;) | 01:45 |
seth_k | maybe it's a Missouri thing :D *everyone* I know uses hard I | 01:45 |
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_freak | I started a fight? | 01:45 |
_freak | ;0 | 01:45 |
quickbrownfox | KaiL_: that's quite broad :/ | 01:45 |
_freak | so, it's soft i like linen? | 01:45 |
seth_k | http://www.paul.sladen.org/pronunciation/ | 01:46 |
seth_k | decide for yourself | 01:46 |
KaiL_ | quickbrownfox: do you have stabillity issues on other systems? | 01:46 |
quickbrownfox | KaiL_: no other systems to try it on | 01:46 |
seth_k | does not sound like long I as in "drive" to me | 01:46 |
quickbrownfox | KaiL_: i'm on a laptop btw | 01:46 |
Tm_T | KaiL_: wha? | 01:47 |
Mez | no _freak, it's pronounced LINE UK | 01:47 |
Mez | UX* | 01:47 |
Tm_T | eh | 01:47 |
seth_k | Mez, that's not what that link says... | 01:47 |
seth_k | listen to the file | 01:47 |
Mez | link? | 01:47 |
seth_k | http://www.paul.sladen.org/pronunciation/ | 01:47 |
Tm_T | it's Linux | 01:47 |
seth_k | lol | 01:48 |
seth_k | thanks, that helps :D | 01:48 |
_freak | :) | 01:48 |
Tm_T | =) | 01:48 |
seth_k | the recording almost sounds like LEE NUX | 01:48 |
Tm_T | seth_k: it's like "lenux" ;) | 01:48 |
_freak | we don't need a third uption | 01:48 |
_freak | option, too. | 01:48 |
Tm_T | haha | 01:48 |
seth_k | Tm_T: leenux or lenux? | 01:48 |
Tm_T | seth_k: say "unix" | 01:49 |
seth_k | Tm_T: lenux is a hard e, leenux is a long e | 01:49 |
seth_k | yoo nix? | 01:49 |
Tm_T | yes, same "i" in linux | 01:49 |
seth_k | :D | 01:49 |
seth_k | I was right then | 01:49 |
Tm_T | yup | 01:49 |
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seth_k | :P j/k | 01:50 |
Tm_T | we pronounce letters quite straight way | 01:50 |
Mez | Tm_T, if there's linus torvalds, | 01:50 |
Mez | promonuced line us | 01:50 |
Mez | shoudldnt linux be line ux | 01:50 |
Tm_T | hm | 01:50 |
Tm_T | nnno | 01:50 |
_freak | I guess it wasn't a stupid question | 01:51 |
Tm_T | I pronounce linus and linux same way | 01:51 |
KaiL_ | <Tm_T> we pronounce letters quite straight way << or better: as most europeans, but not the english people do? ;) | 01:51 |
Mez | lin us? | 01:51 |
Mez | you dont promounce linus line us | 01:51 |
quickbrownfox | i don't think there are direct comparisons between the vowel sounds in Linus and those of the english language | 01:51 |
seth_k | I pronounce Linus with short I | 01:51 |
sproingie | linus pronounces it "leenoos" | 01:51 |
seth_k | leenus | 01:51 |
seth_k | jah | 01:51 |
Mez | o_O | 01:51 |
Tm_T | yup | 01:51 |
Mez | It's lineus! | 01:51 |
Tm_T | haha | 01:51 |
_freak | lol | 01:52 |
Tm_T | US-Line! | 01:52 |
Tm_T | err | 01:52 |
quickbrownfox | that's looks like linears | 01:52 |
KaiL_ | the english "e" is somewhat similar spoken to others "i" | 01:52 |
sproingie | damn furriner can't pronounce his own name ... they all need to learn 'merican and talk right | 01:52 |
KaiL_ | as in "english" ;) | 01:52 |
Tm_T | KaiL_: yeah, somewhat | 01:52 |
Mez | http://www.paul.sladen.org/pronunciation/torvalds-says-linux.wav | 01:52 |
Mez | I cant hear that | 01:52 |
Mez | but it's linus saying it | 01:52 |
KaiL_ | Mez: try the mp3 | 01:52 |
Tm_T | heh | 01:53 |
_freak | the open source communtity today was brought to it's knees today. The question long or short i. | 01:53 |
sproingie | you can't play a raw pcm wav? | 01:53 |
Tm_T | short! | 01:53 |
sproingie | chances are you can | 01:53 |
Mez | well it;s taking ages :P | 01:53 |
Tm_T | foooooood ;) -> | 01:53 |
sproingie | _freak: that debate was over long ago, everyone pronounces it right now | 01:53 |
sproingie | even the media | 01:53 |
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sproingie | personally i think he shoulda stuck with the old name: freax | 01:54 |
_freak | that's easy. | 01:54 |
KaiL_ | sure? ;) | 01:55 |
_freak | ok, here's a question. Anybody else having trouble with the apt-get repostories today? | 01:55 |
KaiL_ | sproingie: the pronounciation is somewhat "obvious" for most european people | 01:55 |
Tm_T | no vittu sanokaa lyhyt ii | 01:56 |
Mez | _freak - read the topic | 01:56 |
sproingie | damn yooros can't speak 'merican neither | 01:56 |
Mez | We are currently experiencing problems with the US and CA Ubuntu Mirrors | 01:56 |
=== ..[topic/#kubuntu:Mez] : http://www.kubuntu.org/~amu/kubuntu-5.04.2-i386-live.iso | Congratulations to motaboy on membership | KDE 3.4.1: deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary-updates main | Unofficial Kubuntu FAQ http://kudos.berlios.de/ | We are currently experiencing problems with the US and CA Ubuntu Mirrors | Wiki Transition Tuesday | ||
Tm_T | and many other sites are "down" too | 01:56 |
_freak | lol | 01:56 |
Tm_T | like kde sites | 01:57 |
_freak | Oh, that's what that meant. | 01:57 |
sproingie | what the sam hell's going on? | 01:57 |
_freak | lol | 01:57 |
seth_k | Mez: US and CA mirror are the same machine | 01:57 |
Mez | Seth - I know | 01:57 |
_freak | thought it was some irc thingy. I'm a newb and half. Sorry. | 01:57 |
Mez | I was quitoing the topic | 01:57 |
KaiL_ | one mirror for ~300Mio possible customers? ;) | 01:57 |
Tm_T | ihme sakkia | 01:58 |
Tm_T | uh! | 01:58 |
Tm_T | rrock | 01:58 |
penguinboy | what does motaboy have membership to? | 01:59 |
Mez | he's ecome an ubuntu member | 02:00 |
seth_k | he's a new Ubuntu Member | 02:00 |
penguinboy | kewl | 02:01 |
penguinboy | my name was never ont he topic line | 02:01 |
penguinboy | sniff sniff | 02:01 |
Tm_T | uliu | 02:02 |
_freak | don't sniff too hard. It's hot here. I may stink. | 02:02 |
penguinboy | lol | 02:02 |
_freak | (there's no 'may' about it) | 02:03 |
Tm_T | I know it too well | 02:03 |
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_freak | thanks for you help everyone. | 02:04 |
quickbrownfox | buggery fuck. well i guess i just have to give up on kubuntu then | 02:04 |
_freak | laterz. | 02:04 |
_freak | quit | 02:04 |
penguinboy | Welcome Jeramy...be careful....freakin's a stinkin' | 02:04 |
_freak | lol | 02:04 |
_freak | freaks a leavin. | 02:04 |
_freak | :) | 02:04 |
_freak | bye | 02:04 |
_freak | quit | 02:04 |
quickbrownfox | so far out of kubuntu, fc3 and suse, only suse has installed | 02:04 |
penguinboy | bye Freak! | 02:04 |
penguinboy | SuSE is always a good easy install | 02:04 |
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quickbrownfox | fc3 just had some crazy error when starting the installer that i couldn't get around | 02:05 |
quickbrownfox | linux has a way to go before it just works | 02:06 |
quickbrownfox | maybe my being on a laptop doesn't help | 02:06 |
penguinboy | what went wrong with the Kubuntu install? | 02:06 |
quickbrownfox | froze on setting up xlibs | 02:06 |
quickbrownfox | on boot it freezes at sysenter_past_esp | 02:06 |
penguinboy | I had trouble with my install on my laptop too | 02:06 |
KaiL_ | quickbrownfox: amd64? ;) | 02:07 |
quickbrownfox | nop | 02:07 |
KaiL_ | penguinboy: what kind of laptop? | 02:07 |
quickbrownfox | make? gericom | 02:08 |
penguinboy | IBM Thinkpad R40 | 02:08 |
KaiL_ | and what kind of trouble? | 02:08 |
KaiL_ | Gericom? Uhm... yeeees :) | 02:08 |
quickbrownfox | what's that supposed to mean :P | 02:08 |
KaiL_ | do you think, buying it was a good idea? *fg* | 02:08 |
quickbrownfox | yes | 02:08 |
quickbrownfox | it's was the best value when i bought it | 02:08 |
quickbrownfox | by quite a bit | 02:08 |
KaiL_ | ...until you need a new Accu and they don't even react | 02:08 |
quickbrownfox | accu? | 02:09 |
KaiL_ | battery | 02:09 |
quickbrownfox | well it's been fine for the past 10 months | 02:09 |
KaiL_ | that was mine too | 02:10 |
KaiL_ | 2 more and it was dead | 02:10 |
Tm_T | hv | 02:10 |
Tm_T | ei jaksa | 02:10 |
Tm_T | -> | 02:10 |
KaiL_ | asking for a new one? well, the shop ordered (that was in 2001) | 02:10 |
KaiL_ | no reaction until today | 02:10 |
quickbrownfox | well one individual case is never enough to go on | 02:11 |
KaiL_ | Gericom is known to be very very bad quality... | 02:11 |
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KaiL_ | penguinboy: and what kind of trouble? | 02:12 |
penguinboy | I partitioned my hardrive...installed....and then messed up the boot record...could not boot into Windows or Linux....took my forever to fix | 02:13 |
KaiL_ | quickbrownfox: what did you run on it before installing kubuntu? | 02:13 |
penguinboy | if I could get Kubuntu to work with my wireless...I would dump Windows entirely | 02:13 |
quickbrownfox | suse on the linux partition, and xp | 02:14 |
KaiL_ | penguinboy: I guess, the partition you used for kubuntu existed before? (or one with same size but other OS at the same place?) | 02:14 |
KaiL_ | quickbrownfox: was that stable? | 02:14 |
quickbrownfox | yes it was | 02:14 |
penguinboy | yes Kail....the partition was used by Ubuntu | 02:15 |
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KaiL_ | penguinboy: ok, then not the bug I saw | 02:17 |
KaiL_ | quickbrownfox: could you recheck, if the ISO you downloaded is ok? | 02:17 |
quickbrownfox | i verified the cd in the advanced installer | 02:17 |
quickbrownfox | and checksummed the iso when i downloaded it | 02:18 |
quickbrownfox | all good | 02:18 |
KaiL_ | penguinboy: http://madwifi.sourceforge.net/ - if my information about the WLAN chip is correct | 02:18 |
KaiL_ | quickbrownfox: did you try to install more than one time? | 02:19 |
penguinboy | thanks Kail! | 02:19 |
KaiL_ | maybe it was just some "wrong bit at the wrong place" situation? ;) | 02:19 |
KaiL_ | penguinboy: http://tuxmobil.org/ibm.html | 02:19 |
KaiL_ | there are around 40 howtos for the R40, maybe some of them help :) | 02:20 |
penguinboy | wonderful! | 02:21 |
penguinboy | thanks | 02:21 |
quickbrownfox | KaiL_: yes i did but after the second it messed up my partition table so i fixed that and deleted my linux partitions completely, then tried reinstalling | 02:21 |
KaiL_ | and broke both times at the same place? | 02:21 |
quickbrownfox | yes | 02:22 |
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quickbrownfox | between the installations i resized some other partitions, so it probably didn't even use the same part of the hard disk | 02:22 |
KaiL_ | very strange, as there's nothing special done... | 02:23 |
quickbrownfox | well i'm almost ready to label it as "one of those things" and wait till the next version and hope it doesn't happen again | 02:24 |
quickbrownfox | like i'm doing with fedora | 02:24 |
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quickbrownfox | fc4 should be out today according to the schedule. i don't know if it's on schedule or not | 02:24 |
rexykik | what is the command to make an ext3 filesystem? | 02:24 |
ijuz | mkfs.ext3 | 02:24 |
rexykik | any switches? | 02:25 |
ijuz | many, but mostly the default is ok | 02:25 |
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KaiL_ | quickbrownfox: maybe you can find another computer to test the CD? :) | 02:25 |
rexykik | would it be mkfs.ext3 /dev/hda1 or /dev/hda | 02:25 |
rexykik | ? | 02:26 |
penguinboy | <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd"> | 02:26 |
penguinboy | <body>we are apt of borg - rpm is futile - you will be dpkg'ed | 02:26 |
penguinboy | </body> | 02:26 |
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quickbrownfox | there's another computer in the house but it's not really for fucking about with. i might try normal ubuntu and see if it's any different... though i prefer kde | 02:27 |
KaiL_ | lol (and this html bug sucks) | 02:27 |
KaiL_ | quickbrownfox: you can install kde on ubuntu, if nothing else helps - just install kubuntu-desktop | 02:28 |
quickbrownfox | if that works i'll stick kde on top | 02:28 |
quickbrownfox | but for now maybe i'll just revise for my exams =] | 02:28 |
quickbrownfox | thanks for trying kail. goodnight | 02:28 |
ijuz | rexykik: /dev/hda1 most likely | 02:29 |
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penguinboy | Hey Hey Monchy! | 02:36 |
monchy | hey penguinboy | 02:36 |
monchy | us ubuntu archive still fubar hey? | 02:37 |
penguinboy | i think so | 02:38 |
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monchy | damn, wanted to get the codecs | 02:40 |
seth_k | monchy, just switch to http://archive.ubuntu.com | 02:40 |
seth_k | monchy, I think they've turned auth off for now, so it should work if you really want to use US | 02:40 |
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monchy | seth, archive was messing up as well :( | 02:46 |
monchy | and yes i did update after changing my sources ;p | 02:46 |
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delltony | anyone here mind helping me get transcode installed so i can use dvd::rip? | 02:48 |
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liz4rd | does any one have a good repo list? | 02:58 |
apollo2011 | I am trying to install Powermated for my Griffin Powermate, and when I compile it, I get this error: http://sial.org/pbot/10997 | 03:00 |
apollo2011 | liz4rd: for? | 03:02 |
delltony | hey apollo2011 you ever messed with transcode? | 03:02 |
apollo2011 | no | 03:02 |
apollo2011 | try DVD Shrink under Wine | 03:02 |
delltony | dang anyone besides me wanna convert my dvds to xvid | 03:03 |
delltony | i figure 3 dvds on one dvd is better tahn 1 :) | 03:03 |
ijuz | transcode is also in the nerim.net repository | 03:03 |
ijuz | as dvdrip | 03:03 |
delltony | i have dvd::rip installed | 03:03 |
delltony | the gui that is | 03:03 |
delltony | but its bitchin about transcode not being installed | 03:04 |
ijuz | deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main | 03:04 |
liz4rd | apollo2011: for apt... | 03:04 |
apollo2011 | ubuntu mirrors? | 03:04 |
delltony | ok hang on | 03:04 |
liz4rd | yeah | 03:04 |
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apollo2011 | liz4rd: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Archive | 03:05 |
delltony | and you said transcode is relabled as dvdrip on that repository? | 03:06 |
ijuz | no, but both are in the repository | 03:06 |
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delltony | so apt-get install transcode? | 03:07 |
Mez | ijuz - I wouldnt recommend marillat, it breaks more things than fixes in ubuntu | 03:07 |
delltony | i keep getting dependency errors on transcode is why i was asking | 03:07 |
delltony | talking about libavcodec | 03:08 |
delltony | and i tried to install that but its no found anywhere | 03:08 |
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delltony | damn i give up i can' get this thing to install for crap | 03:13 |
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spine55 | Can anyone point me to a howto upgrade the ipw2200 driver to the latest version? | 03:41 |
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crimsun | you can grab the latest version from http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/pool/contrib/i/ipw2200/ipw2200-source_1.0.4-1_all.deb | 03:42 |
crimsun | then you'll need to install build-essential, linux-headers-$(uname -r), and module-assistant | 03:42 |
crimsun | then you can install ipw2200-source_1.0.4-1_all.deb | 03:42 |
spine55 | thanks crimsum | 03:43 |
spine55 | crimsun | 03:43 |
delltony | hey crimsun you had any luck with transcode by chance? | 03:43 |
delltony | or something that will allow me to convert vobcopied dvds to xvids | 03:44 |
crimsun | transcode doesn't build in sbuild due to missing build-dependencies in multiverse | 03:44 |
delltony | i have a bunch of dvds i bought that id like to put on a single dvd | 03:44 |
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crimsun | you may be able to find it in ubp | 03:44 |
delltony | any suggestions? | 03:44 |
crimsun | you can either ask someone to backport it (if it's not already), or you can build it yourself | 03:45 |
delltony | well i downloaded he source and all but the configure screws me cause its wants the libavicodec.h or something like that | 03:46 |
delltony | from ffmeg and i have installed ffmeg but i guess not the dev files i don't know its fustrating | 03:46 |
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seth_k | apparently us mirror back up to par | 03:48 |
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delltony | configure: error: FFmpeg (libavcodec) required, but cannot compile ffmpeg/avcodec.h | 03:49 |
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Mez | seth_k, you mean still broken? | 03:49 |
seth_k | Mez, no. Fixed. See #ubuntu | 03:49 |
seth_k | crimsun changed topic there | 03:50 |
lmoretti | Hi- New install- trying to install packages, using apt-get install, but I keep getting MD5Sum mismatches. (repository us.archive.ubuntu.com) | 03:51 |
crimsun | us.archive should be fixed | 03:51 |
seth_k | lmoretti, do an apt-get update | 03:51 |
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lmoretti | seth_k - still no go. | 03:52 |
lmoretti | failed MD5s on libpango1.0-0_1.8.1-0ubuntu2_i386.deb, libgnomecanvas2-0_2.10.0-0ubuntu1_i386.deb, libcairo1_0.3.0-1_i386.deb | 03:53 |
lmoretti | I'm trying to install firefox. | 03:54 |
seth_k | hmm. Maybe you have bad downloaded versions of those? cd /var/cache/apt/archives and then sudo rm the three packages, then try apt-get again? | 03:54 |
lmoretti | they arn't there. | 03:56 |
lmoretti | exact error "Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/pango1.0/libpango1.0-0_1.8.1-0ubuntu2_i386.deb MD5Sum mismatch" | 03:57 |
Mez | seth_k, sudo apt-get clean is sager :D | 03:59 |
Mez | safer * | 03:59 |
seth_k | Mez, why clean the whole thing when he/she might need the other packages later? Just remove the failed ones. But they aren't even there :D | 04:00 |
Mez | cause clean is always saer | 04:01 |
Mez | safer * | 04:01 |
seth_k | okay lmoretti, sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list and change all http://us.archive to http://archive | 04:01 |
seth_k | e.g. remove the us | 04:01 |
lmoretti | ok, did that, running an update. | 04:03 |
Mez | sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list | 04:03 |
Mez | what a useful command | 04:03 |
lmoretti | sed's on my list to learn one of these days. | 04:04 |
lmoretti | ok, looks like that cleared up my problems. | 04:04 |
seth_k | sudo sed -e 's/us.a/a/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list is shorter :D | 04:04 |
seth_k | :P | 04:04 |
lmoretti | thanks! | 04:04 |
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seth_k | you can't spell | 04:05 |
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Chameleon22 | does anyone have the same issue as me, when I lock the screen and live the machine like that for a while it logs me out!!! | 04:15 |
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nmorse | Like, fully locks you out? | 04:24 |
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monchy | hey were now in the top 20 with ubuntu | 04:28 |
Mez | ?? monchy? | 04:28 |
monchy | on distrowatch | 04:29 |
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Mez | ah | 04:30 |
Mez | weird thinking of kubutnu as a distro | 04:30 |
monchy | don't think it should be on there? | 04:30 |
Mez | no i just find it weird thinking of it as seperate from ubuntu | 04:31 |
monchy | wonder what'll happen if theres a Xubuntu (XFCE) | 04:32 |
sproingie | it gets distributed separately, it's a distro | 04:33 |
sproingie | there's lots of knoppix one-offs out there too that are nothing but remasters | 04:34 |
monchy | blasted cd-rom | 04:39 |
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monchy | wish it would just die already instead of teasing me | 04:40 |
Mez | hey Kamping_Kaiser | 04:41 |
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monchy | i'll throw it into the air, you shoot | 04:41 |
Mez | PULL | 04:41 |
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Kamping_Kaiser | arvo mez | 04:43 |
Mez | wanna test out k3b in breezy Kamping_Kaiser ? | 04:43 |
Kamping_Kaiser | i cant get KDE to download :S | 04:44 |
Kamping_Kaiser | otherwise yet | 04:44 |
Kamping_Kaiser | *yes | 04:44 |
Mez | ah fair enough :D | 04:44 |
Mez | lol | 04:44 |
Mez | I just builkt k3b :D | 04:44 |
Mez | whee | 04:44 |
monchy | theres a new version? | 04:44 |
Kamping_Kaiser | :) nerd | 04:45 |
Mez | nah | 04:46 |
Mez | well, | 04:46 |
Mez | yes there is | 04:46 |
Mez | it's just k3b didnt work in breezy before | 04:46 |
monchy | have any of you guys ever used blank kodak cd-rs before? | 04:47 |
Kamping_Kaiser | *downloads kde* | 04:48 |
Mez | gl Kamping_Kaiser | 04:48 |
Kamping_Kaiser | Kubuntu-desktop isnt coming down, because i don't have k3b adn oo.o2-KDE, but KDE will | 04:49 |
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Echo_Mage | Yello all | 04:50 |
Echo_Mage | Wow its awful quiet in here | 04:51 |
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seth_k | heh | 04:51 |
Kamping_Kaiser | ffs i hate those people | 04:53 |
Mez | lol | 04:53 |
Tm_T | I kinda like | 04:53 |
Tm_T | clowns | 04:53 |
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Kamping_Kaiser | hi tm_t | 04:54 |
Chameleon22 | does anyone have the same issue as me, when I lock the screen and live the machine like that for a while it logs me out!!! | 04:55 |
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Kamping_Kaiser | thats a feature isnt it? | 04:55 |
Tm_T | hmm | 04:56 |
Tm_T | Chameleon22: log out? | 04:56 |
Tm_T | Chameleon22: you mean it ask your password? | 04:56 |
Chameleon22 | Tm_T: no, it logs me out, as in it shows login screen | 04:57 |
Tm_T | ah | 04:57 |
Chameleon22 | ye | 04:57 |
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bryan | how do you pronounce kubuntu: "koo-buntu" or "kay-ubuntu"??? | 05:25 |
Chameleon22 | koo-buntu | 05:25 |
bryan | whew!!! thanks... i just won the bet :) | 05:25 |
Chameleon22 | koo-buntu - i do any way | 05:25 |
seth_k | koo boon too | 05:26 |
bryan | i think the kubuntu home page should have the pronounciation like the ubuntu site does | 05:26 |
seth_k | koo boon too or koo bun too? | 05:26 |
Kamping_Kaiser | i say k' buntu | 05:26 |
Chameleon22 | when i look an some sites with firefox, the fonts appear to be to small, but when i look at the same site with IE or Konqueror fonts seem ok, is there way to fix this problem? | 05:27 |
Kamping_Kaiser | seth_k imo the first way | 05:28 |
seth_k | grood | 05:28 |
seth_k | food time | 05:28 |
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Chameleon22 | ^ | 05:31 |
Kamping_Kaiser | is small fonts the only problem? | 05:33 |
Chameleon22 | Kamping_Kaiser: ye seems like that | 05:35 |
Chameleon22 | but interested why its like that only in firefx and other browsers look fine | 05:36 |
Kamping_Kaiser | nfi | 05:36 |
Kamping_Kaiser | but font size is an option | 05:36 |
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gethoht | hello everyone | 06:13 |
Kamping_Kaiser | hi | 06:17 |
gethoht | i've been checking out kubuntu, after a long time away from linux | 06:17 |
gethoht | it's been a nice re-introduction | 06:18 |
gethoht | i'm having a problem installing firefox though | 06:18 |
gethoht | when i do an apt-get install firefox... i get a "failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/pango1.0/libpango1.0-0_1.8.1-0ubuntu2_i386.deb MD5Sum mismatch | 06:20 |
gethoht | i also get that md5 error with libgnomecanvas2-0_2.10.0-0ubuntul)i386.deb | 06:21 |
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Kamping_Kaiser | getholt, take it off the US mirrors | 06:21 |
gethoht | edit /etc/apt/sources.list? | 06:21 |
Kamping_Kaiser | yes | 06:21 |
Kamping_Kaiser | remove the "us." bit | 06:21 |
gethoht | should I comment out the security servers? | 06:23 |
pobstil | are there any gameboy emulators for linux? | 06:24 |
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gethoht | still get the Md5 sum error, now with a "W: Couldn't stat source package list error | 06:29 |
gethoht | it looks like it's still trying to pull it from the us servers | 06:29 |
gethoht | i even put uk.archive.ubuntu.com in the sources.list | 06:29 |
gethoht | hrmm | 06:30 |
seth_k | gethoht: did you do an apt-get update? | 06:30 |
gethoht | nope.. let me try that | 06:31 |
gethoht | ok done with the update | 06:31 |
gethoht | same prob | 06:31 |
seth_k | http://pastebin.ca <-- paste sources.list for me? | 06:32 |
seth_k | there's no such thing as uk.archive | 06:33 |
seth_k | it's called gb.archive | 06:33 |
seth_k | iirc | 06:33 |
gethoht | i tried it in the web browser first and it came up | 06:34 |
gethoht | its pastebin.ca/14217 | 06:35 |
gethoht | i think i might have been editing the wrong one | 06:35 |
gethoht | the wrong entry i mean... i was editing the entries at the bottom of sources.list | 06:35 |
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gethoht | i tried taking the us. out of all the entries and i got a dependencies error | 06:38 |
gethoht | like it didn't want to automatically install all the dependencies for mozilla-firefox | 06:39 |
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gethoht | i haven | 06:41 |
gethoht | err | 06:41 |
seth_k | just run the command in /topic | 06:45 |
seth_k | sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list | 06:45 |
seth_k | :) | 06:45 |
gethoht | i think that did it | 06:47 |
gethoht | :) | 06:47 |
gethoht | so it was just taking the us out of the sources.list then huh? | 06:48 |
seth_k | yep, and apt-get update | 06:48 |
seth_k | us/ca mirror is b0rked | 06:48 |
gethoht | ah ok | 06:48 |
gethoht | that sucks | 06:48 |
gethoht | thanks :) now i can finally not use windows for anything ) | 06:49 |
gethoht | :) | 06:49 |
seth_k | :D | 06:49 |
gethoht | thanks again :) I appreciate it | 06:51 |
gethoht | i searched the ubuntuforums.org, google, linuxquestions.org and couldn't find a solution | 06:51 |
gethoht | does kynaptic use the /etc/apt/sources.list file as well? | 06:53 |
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seth_k | gethoht: yep, just another interface to apt | 06:55 |
gethoht | what's a good mp3 player for linux? | 06:55 |
seth_k | for KDE, AmaroK, hands-down | 06:56 |
seth_k | or XMMS if you must, but imo AmaroK > all | 06:56 |
gethoht | i was using bmp on slackware | 06:56 |
gethoht | it was very winamp-like | 06:57 |
seth_k | yes, bmp is a lot like winamp | 06:57 |
gethoht | i liked it alot, it even had a equalizer built into it | 06:57 |
seth_k | AmaroK is a lot like iTunes | 06:57 |
seth_k | so whichever makes you happy :) | 06:58 |
seth_k | bmp is available in synaptic as well | 06:58 |
seth_k | beep-media-player i believe it is called | 06:58 |
Kamping_Kaiser | yes it is | 06:58 |
nmorse | I'm waiting for amaroK, et als. to get iTunes sharing support | 07:00 |
nmorse | That way I can play my family's playlists from my laptop | 07:00 |
nmorse | and it should be even more interesting at college | 07:00 |
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nmorse | Juk is the best KDE player anyway | 07:02 |
gethoht | hrmm | 07:04 |
monchy | hm, can't eject cd | 07:04 |
nmorse | eject not working, eh? | 07:05 |
nmorse | CD busy? | 07:05 |
monchy | story of my life with this cd-r lol | 07:05 |
monchy | not sure if it's the blanks i'm using or not | 07:05 |
nmorse | CD drives are fickle | 07:06 |
monchy | ever used kodak cd-r's nmorse? | 07:06 |
nmorse | No, I use imation CD-R's | 07:07 |
nmorse | Cheaper | 07:07 |
nmorse | About 5 cents a CD-R sometimes | 07:07 |
monchy | these weren't too bad, 24$ for 50 | 07:07 |
nmorse | Makes coasters easy to forget about | 07:08 |
monchy | CDN mind you | 07:08 |
nmorse | So, like $5 American? | 07:08 |
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nmorse | Sorry, had to take a jibe | 07:08 |
monchy | har har :p | 07:08 |
nmorse | I like Canadian stuff | 07:08 |
nmorse | It's way cheaper, I buy stuff every time I go there | 07:08 |
monchy | it's weird though, i've got a few CD-RW and they work fine, non-kodak | 07:08 |
nmorse | Some CD-RW drives are more fickle than others about the types of dye the CD-R's use | 07:09 |
monchy | aha | 07:09 |
nmorse | What color is the bottom of the CD? | 07:09 |
gethoht | damn synaptic is nice | 07:10 |
monchy | green | 07:10 |
nmorse | What color are the other ones you use? | 07:10 |
gethoht | kynaptic is still a little buggy | 07:10 |
monchy | 1 sec | 07:10 |
nmorse | Kynaptic's easier to use, Synaptic has more power | 07:10 |
monchy | they look the same | 07:10 |
nmorse | Real men use apt, or aptitude, or the really brave use dselect | 07:11 |
nmorse | :) | 07:11 |
nmorse | monchy: I guess they use a different dye with the same coloration | 07:11 |
nmorse | Sometimes you can tell visually, other times you can't | 07:11 |
nmorse | Trial and error is the only foolproof method ever invented | 07:11 |
monchy | well guess i'll buy a new cd-rom during the week | 07:12 |
monchy | if they still don't read then a new burner | 07:12 |
nmorse | BTW, what's with the wiki transition in the topic? | 07:12 |
monchy | and if they still don't read i'll throw the f'n things out the window >< | 07:12 |
nmorse | man, dadgum storm cuts off my dadgum internet for 45 seconds at a time | 07:14 |
nmorse | I missed everything for almost a minute | 07:14 |
monchy | thunderstorm? :D | 07:14 |
nmorse | So does anyone know what the wiki transition in the topic refers to? | 07:16 |
nmorse | Yeah, thunderstorm | 07:16 |
monchy | ah i miss those | 07:16 |
nmorse | Thank god my laptop and UPS protect me | 07:16 |
nmorse | But not my internet | 07:16 |
nmorse | What, you live in Alaska? | 07:16 |
nmorse | Oh, Canada | 07:16 |
monchy | british columbia | 07:16 |
nmorse | So near Alaska and Washington? | 07:17 |
monchy | live about 4 hours away from the border | 07:17 |
nmorse | I have a friend from Alaska | 07:17 |
nmorse | He heard thunder for the first time in his life 2 years ago when he moved to Oklahoma | 07:17 |
nmorse | He's an Alaskan native | 07:17 |
nmorse | As in Indian | 07:17 |
monchy | ooh | 07:17 |
nmorse | Quite funny, he jumped like he thought he was being shot at, so I hear | 07:18 |
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monchy | lol, wonder if that's what the native-americans think around here | 07:18 |
nmorse | Take them somewhere where there's thunder sometime | 07:19 |
nmorse | It'll be worth the trip | 07:19 |
monchy | well they don't really like people here so that'd be hard ;p | 07:19 |
nmorse | Ah, yeah, you're near the territory they got to themselves, eh? | 07:19 |
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monchy | oh yeah, theres even a special tax on property | 07:20 |
nmorse | But you get Red Rose Tea, so no complaints | 07:20 |
monchy | lol | 07:20 |
nmorse | That's the best tea anywhere | 07:20 |
nmorse | I love that stuff | 07:20 |
monchy | luckily i won't have to put up with it for long | 07:20 |
nmorse | My family has it imported | 07:20 |
nmorse | Why not? | 07:20 |
monchy | planning to move back east around xmas time/new years | 07:21 |
monchy | going to be a cop | 07:21 |
nmorse | East, as in towards Ontario? | 07:21 |
monchy | yeah, my home! :) | 07:21 |
nmorse | Are you the one who always tells me Quebec isn't Canada? | 07:22 |
monchy | no, but i agree with whoever says that | 07:22 |
monchy | separtist bastards | 07:22 |
nmorse | Heh, I like Quebec | 07:22 |
nmorse | But I also speak French | 07:22 |
nmorse | and enjoy French food | 07:22 |
monchy | i'd like to see how long they last alone lol | 07:22 |
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nmorse | If it wasn't for the Quebecois' food I'd let them fall of the Earth | 07:23 |
monchy | and the women | 07:23 |
nmorse | and the women | 07:23 |
duende | lol | 07:23 |
nmorse | Does most of Canada have legal marijuana like Quebec? | 07:23 |
duende | we don't | 07:23 |
monchy | BC does pretty much, not sure about the rest of the country | 07:23 |
liz4rd | OMG! it's leage in qubec???? | 07:24 |
nmorse | Ah, just remembering some stoners on the Quebec Fort wall | 07:24 |
liz4rd | wtf no way | 07:24 |
monchy | i know there are blunt bros cafes in vancouver | 07:24 |
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nmorse | Saskatchewan? | 07:24 |
monchy | he's a prarie boy lol | 07:24 |
liz4rd | yes | 07:24 |
nmorse | That sucks | 07:24 |
nmorse | That's like Calgary | 07:24 |
liz4rd | OMG no you didnt | 07:24 |
liz4rd | :P | 07:24 |
monchy | lol | 07:24 |
liz4rd | ouch | 07:25 |
nmorse | I love Canada | 07:25 |
liz4rd | me to ^_^ *hugs canada* | 07:25 |
nmorse | More bitter rivalries than the States could ever have | 07:25 |
liz4rd | and we have the hottest weman | 07:25 |
nmorse | But yeah, Quebec has legal weed and the women can (and do) go topless | 07:25 |
liz4rd | SWEET | 07:26 |
gethoht | nice | 07:26 |
nmorse | try Montmorency Falls and the Fort Park | 07:26 |
monchy | lol | 07:26 |
monchy | i think liz4rd is gonna have good dreams tonight @_@ | 07:26 |
nmorse | went there with a high school group, of all people | 07:26 |
nmorse | Quite funny to see the teacher's reaction | 07:27 |
nmorse | and she's taking them back next summer | 07:27 |
liz4rd | http://pastebin.ca/14222 how do i get rid of that when i ssh to my self from somewhere | 07:27 |
gethoht | how is the healthcare system in canada? any downsides? because i've heard not too many bad things | 07:27 |
liz4rd | (pastebin.com is down) | 07:27 |
monchy | it's free | 07:27 |
liz4rd | yeah | 07:27 |
liz4rd | all free | 07:27 |
monchy | can't complain there lol | 07:27 |
liz4rd | its the best man | 07:27 |
nmorse | taxed, not free | 07:27 |
liz4rd | oh well | 07:27 |
monchy | oh, and mp3's are legal here | 07:28 |
nmorse | Is it actually a good system | 07:28 |
liz4rd | low taxes shitty gov't :P | 07:28 |
nmorse | I heard about the mp3's | 07:28 |
gethoht | if I mount an ntfs drive in linux, is there any options I should put in the /etc/fstab? | 07:28 |
nmorse | Taxes on CD-R's | 07:28 |
monchy | we pay a tiny levy on blank cd's | 07:28 |
monchy | yep | 07:28 |
liz4rd | http://pastebin.ca/14222 how do i get rid of that when i ssh to my self from somewhere | 07:28 |
monchy | worth it though | 07:28 |
nmorse | Just smuggle them across the border on foot | 07:28 |
monchy | nice to not have to worry about the RIAA hunting you down | 07:28 |
nmorse | I could emigrate to Canada without running into one border patrol guy | 07:28 |
nmorse | I actually went through Immigrations once, on the aforementioned Quebec trip (forgot my ID) | 07:29 |
monchy | brb need to test this cd | 07:29 |
nmorse | Great country | 07:29 |
gethoht | when I went up to montreal a couple summers ago, i got no hassle on the way into canada | 07:29 |
liz4rd | acully just say you came for the cows the nstart mooooing and you'll get in free | 07:29 |
gethoht | coming back into the states, they hassled the fuck out of me | 07:29 |
nmorse | Only in Calgary and Saskatchewan | 07:29 |
liz4rd | like cavity searchy? | 07:29 |
gethoht | asked me if I had beef, and tobacco, and alcohol... and of course drugs | 07:29 |
nmorse | Coming into the states is much harder | 07:29 |
gethoht | no no... not that bad | 07:29 |
nmorse | Like, I Fed-Ex'ed my ID to myself | 07:30 |
gethoht | searched the bike though | 07:30 |
nmorse | Bah, neither US or Canada search cars | 07:30 |
nmorse | They ask if you have a gun | 07:30 |
nmorse | You say yes, they take it | 07:30 |
nmorse | You say no, they leave it with you | 07:30 |
nmorse | They melt them down too, not auction them like here in the states | 07:30 |
gethoht | america is paranoid schizophrenic compared to canada | 07:30 |
gethoht | if nations had psychological disorders | 07:31 |
nmorse | Schizophrenic, not so much | 07:31 |
nmorse | More like Dissociative Identity Disorder | 07:31 |
nmorse | With associated paranoia | 07:31 |
nmorse | The deliberation's what kills you | 07:32 |
gethoht | i'm sick of the bullshit politics of the states | 07:32 |
nmorse | A bureacracy is a dysfunctional mind | 07:32 |
gethoht | stupid wars, corporate welfare | 07:32 |
nmorse | I'm debating what to do after college in 4 years | 07:32 |
nmorse | Hawaii or Canada | 07:32 |
nmorse | Or the People's Republic of Nathan | 07:33 |
nmorse | Set it up on a remote tropical island | 07:33 |
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nmorse | Wow | 07:34 |
nmorse | that bad, eh? | 07:34 |
monchy | urge to kill rising | 07:34 |
gethoht | haha | 07:34 |
monchy | i want to know what friggin dye these use | 07:34 |
nmorse | Kodak dye probably | 07:34 |
nmorse | Doubt they use an industry standard, why would they? | 07:35 |
monchy | Formazan | 07:35 |
monchy | kodak japan ltd dammit | 07:35 |
nmorse | This should teach you: never buy name-brand | 07:36 |
nmorse | Welcome to Soviet Russia | 07:36 |
monchy | back to no-names lol | 07:36 |
nmorse | I always use the cheapest ones | 07:36 |
monchy | which always worked 110% for me before | 07:36 |
nmorse | Never feel bad about a coaster, rarely make one | 07:36 |
nmorse | They'd be cheaper if you smuggled them in from the U.S. | 07:37 |
nmorse | I'm sure I could set up a trade route from Buffalo | 07:37 |
monchy | lol | 07:37 |
nmorse | No supporting the RIAA that way either | 07:37 |
nmorse | Big conversion vans full of illegal CD-R's | 07:38 |
liz4rd | :P | 07:38 |
nmorse | I can see it now: me the head of the biggest CD smuggling group in the world | 07:38 |
nmorse | Be quite funny if I got caught | 07:38 |
liz4rd | yes names: "THe rerightables" | 07:38 |
nmorse | What would they do? | 07:38 |
liz4rd | oops | 07:38 |
liz4rd | rewriteables* | 07:38 |
nmorse | No, think of an acronym for CD-RW | 07:39 |
nmorse | something that would explain all the CD's adequately to Border Patrol | 07:39 |
liz4rd | oh god...i'm drawing a blank | 07:39 |
nmorse | Same here | 07:39 |
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nmorse | Something involving DJ's maybe | 07:40 |
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nmorse | or maybe just CD-R | 07:40 |
liz4rd | :P yeah | 07:41 |
nmorse | Need an R word | 07:41 |
nmorse | Any Canadian stuff that starts with R? | 07:41 |
liz4rd | uh..... | 07:41 |
liz4rd | rice | 07:41 |
liz4rd | no | 07:41 |
nmorse | We could go the Quebec route and make the W stand for weed | 07:42 |
liz4rd | rrrrr (like a growle) | 07:42 |
liz4rd | :P lmao | 07:42 |
nmorse | Then we can explain the conversion van too | 07:42 |
liz4rd | :P | 07:42 |
nmorse | Crazy DJ's on Rural Weed | 07:42 |
nmorse | There we go | 07:42 |
monchy | i'm glad all this stuff gets logged, it'll make a good story one day :p | 07:42 |
liz4rd | OMG l337 | 07:42 |
nmorse | Indeed, this needs to be selectively bashed | 07:42 |
liz4rd | :P | 07:42 |
nmorse | I like to look at my old Jabber logs | 07:43 |
nmorse | Some of the conversations there have gone wild and all over the place | 07:44 |
nmorse | Even more so than these ones | 07:44 |
monchy | jabber all you use? | 07:44 |
nmorse | Yeah, nmorse@jabber.org | 07:44 |
nmorse | Some AIM, some Yahoo, some MSN, sometimes | 07:44 |
monchy | do you use gaim for all that? | 07:44 |
liz4rd | nah | 07:45 |
liz4rd | psi for jabber | 07:45 |
nmorse | Yeah, though its jabber functionality bugs me | 07:45 |
liz4rd | amsn for msn | 07:45 |
nmorse | I don't like Psi much either | 07:45 |
liz4rd | havnt used AIM of yahoo for awhile | 07:45 |
monchy | poor poor kopete lol | 07:45 |
nmorse | Kopete's interface sucks | 07:45 |
liz4rd | yeah | 07:45 |
monchy | it could be good | 07:45 |
liz4rd | WE NEED TEXT BASSED MSN!!! | 07:45 |
nmorse | The Open Usability guys probably died of heart attacks looking at it | 07:45 |
monchy | no tabbed messaging though is a big no no | 07:45 |
liz4rd | lol i agree | 07:46 |
nmorse | Text based MSN, like curphoo is for Yahoo? | 07:46 |
nmorse | Shouldn't be too hard to write | 07:46 |
liz4rd | yeah | 07:46 |
nmorse | Use gaim's libmsn or libgaim or whatever and write a Python text interface to it | 07:46 |
nmorse | Or use centericq | 07:47 |
nmorse | Which is like Gaim for the CLI | 07:47 |
nmorse | voila, I'm on MSN in Konsole | 07:49 |
monchy | blah i think i have to start using firefox | 07:51 |
nmorse | Why? | 07:51 |
monchy | i miss ad-block | 07:51 |
nmorse | That's one thing Konqueror definitely needs | 07:51 |
monchy | coming in 3.5 | 07:51 |
nmorse | Excellent, then I'll probably switch over almost completely | 07:51 |
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nmorse | Won't that version also include optional Gecko rendering? | 07:52 |
monchy | dev on 3.5 is supposed to wrap up june 30th, so should have it soon | 07:52 |
billytwowilly | lol http://www.stud.ntnu.no/~shane/stasj/pics/humor/div/527.html | 07:52 |
nmorse | If it has the Gecko rendering option, I'll never need another browser again | 07:52 |
monchy | not sure on the optional gecko rendering, guys in #kde might know | 07:53 |
monchy | oh i know the next version of konq has already passed the acid2 test | 07:54 |
nmorse | That's good, it'll be the first to be released that does that | 07:55 |
monchy | so it's coming along at least | 07:55 |
nmorse | The guys in #kde say the gecko rendering hasn't had work done on it since last summer | 07:56 |
monchy | ouch, that's a damn shame | 07:57 |
mrmanic | what is acid2? | 07:57 |
liz4rd | SPAM! http://datapirate.ath.cx/4um/viewtopic.php?t=5 | 07:57 |
monchy | mrmanic: to quote the webstandards site; Acid2 is a test page, written to help browser vendors ensure proper support for web standards in their products. | 07:58 |
mrmanic | oh nice. | 07:59 |
nmorse | It checks if they break properly | 07:59 |
monchy | safari is the only other browser i know of that's passed it | 07:59 |
nmorse | time for me to go | 07:59 |
nmorse | OmniWeb or whatever that odd Mac browser is | 07:59 |
nmorse | Cabsomething maybe? | 08:00 |
mrmanic | camino? | 08:00 |
nmorse | Anyway, time for me to go | 08:00 |
nmorse | No | 08:00 |
mrmanic | oh ok | 08:00 |
nmorse | The ugly third-party browser | 08:00 |
monchy | lol | 08:00 |
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monchy | later nmorse | 08:00 |
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liz4rd | should help me start up that forum | 08:02 |
liz4rd | http://datapirate.ath.cx | 08:02 |
liz4rd | i would let someone moderate one | 08:03 |
monchy | you pay for that space? | 08:03 |
liz4rd | </spam> | 08:03 |
liz4rd | yeah | 08:04 |
liz4rd | 40 gigs of space | 08:04 |
liz4rd | :D | 08:04 |
monchy | nice | 08:04 |
liz4rd | a friend hooked it up | 08:04 |
liz4rd | i just dont know how to get known | 08:04 |
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monchy | throw it in your part/quit message | 08:04 |
liz4rd | yeah | 08:04 |
liz4rd | how do i do that? | 08:05 |
liz4rd | :P | 08:05 |
Ghetek | mounting iso files in the console? | 08:05 |
monchy | do you use konversation liz4rd | 08:05 |
liz4rd | irssi | 08:05 |
monchy | k then i don't know lol | 08:05 |
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liz4rd | hold on i'll jump on it | 08:05 |
Ghetek | is it "$mount my iso file please" or "$mount my iso file pretty please"? | 08:05 |
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monchy | settings > identities > advanced | 08:06 |
liz4rd | there now i am | 08:06 |
froud | Ghetek: http://www.freebsddiary.org/iso-mount.php | 08:06 |
Ghetek | thanks | 08:06 |
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liz4rd | alright done | 08:07 |
liz4rd | monchy: would you help start it up? ...liek any ideas suggestions? | 08:07 |
monchy | i'd like too, but when it comes to linux stuff i'm an idiot lol | 08:08 |
liz4rd | me too | 08:08 |
liz4rd | :P | 08:08 |
liz4rd | but i know i have alot of stuff i could share | 08:08 |
liz4rd | i want it to be more of a casual place tho :P | 08:09 |
monchy | make a customization section for gnome & kde, i know people like that sorta stuff | 08:09 |
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liz4rd | ok | 08:10 |
monchy | hah PS3 will run linux | 08:10 |
liz4rd | nice | 08:10 |
liz4rd | :P | 08:10 |
monchy | too bad it'll probably be like 499 cdn >< | 08:11 |
monchy | with 1 stinkin controller and a demo disc | 08:11 |
liz4rd | monchy: go look now | 08:14 |
liz4rd | http://datapirate.ath.cx | 08:14 |
liz4rd | should i move the catagory up ? | 08:14 |
liz4rd | to catch teh eye? | 08:14 |
liz4rd | :P | 08:14 |
monchy | yeah | 08:14 |
liz4rd | k done | 08:15 |
monchy | yeah that's better | 08:15 |
monchy | is that the aero glass theme btw? | 08:16 |
liz4rd | um one moment | 08:16 |
liz4rd | daj_glass | 08:16 |
liz4rd | nice hey | 08:16 |
monchy | yeah looks good | 08:16 |
monchy | easy on the eyes | 08:17 |
liz4rd | yeah | 08:17 |
liz4rd | would you post there? | 08:17 |
liz4rd | :P | 08:17 |
liz4rd | the main question | 08:18 |
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monchy | probably not, only because i really don't post on any forums | 08:18 |
monchy | if i need want to talk there are people on freenode :p | 08:19 |
monchy | er -need | 08:19 |
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liz4rd | ok i understand ya | 08:20 |
liz4rd | i'm not a forum person my self :P | 08:20 |
liz4rd | soon there will be a kick ass website | 08:20 |
monchy | i'll keep it bookmarked though and i can lurk from time to time lol | 08:21 |
liz4rd | ok that be cool | 08:21 |
liz4rd | you know what | 08:21 |
liz4rd | i should just enter a bunch of room and leave :P | 08:21 |
monchy | lol | 08:21 |
monchy | fedora,suse | 08:21 |
monchy | konversation | 08:21 |
liz4rd | there | 08:22 |
monchy | they are all hyped over in fedora for tomorrow | 08:22 |
liz4rd | why | 08:22 |
monchy | core 4 releases tomorrow | 08:23 |
liz4rd | cool | 08:23 |
liz4rd | i guess | 08:23 |
monchy | it's like if breezy came out for us :p | 08:23 |
liz4rd | :P | 08:23 |
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markc | what is the "proper" way to update the nvidia driver package after a kernel package update to 2.6.12 ? | 08:39 |
markc | all I can find is -> apt-get install nvidia-glx | 08:40 |
markc | and I can't see what that has got to do with the actual driver | 08:40 |
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BurgerMann | Hi, does KDE have anything similar to MS Macros? | 09:31 |
liz4rd | whats MS Macros | 09:31 |
liz4rd | XD | 09:31 |
BurgerMann | It's basically a recording of mouse and keyboard actions | 09:32 |
liz4rd | oooooooooooooooooooo | 09:32 |
liz4rd | no clue | 09:32 |
BurgerMann | oki :} | 09:33 |
liz4rd | i like your name tho | 09:35 |
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liz4rd | ^_^ | 09:35 |
BurgerMann | lol | 09:36 |
diktatorn | why cant i copy text form konqueror and past i to de konsole? :/ | 09:38 |
liz4rd | do you have a wheel on your mouse? | 09:38 |
Kamping_Kaiser | do you still have konqueror open? | 09:38 |
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closure | hi guys | 09:50 |
liz4rd | OMG HI | 09:50 |
liz4rd | :P | 09:50 |
closure | lol | 09:50 |
closure | >8-) | 09:51 |
liz4rd | man its boring here | 09:51 |
liz4rd | *cricket noises* | 09:51 |
closure | lol | 09:51 |
closure | yeah i'm bored as piss myself | 09:51 |
liz4rd | what time is it there | 09:51 |
closure | 4am | 09:53 |
liz4rd | lol its 2 am here | 09:55 |
liz4rd | nothing to (F WORD) to do around here at this time | 09:56 |
closure | where you at? | 09:57 |
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closure | godamn backports | 10:04 |
closure | oh wait | 10:04 |
closure | it's working today | 10:04 |
closure | holy jesus | 10:05 |
closure | The following packages will be upgraded: | 10:05 |
closure | acroread acroread-plugins clamav clamav-base clamav-freshclam dcoprss | 10:05 |
closure | foomatic-db-hpijs foomatic-filters-ppds gaim-guifications gnome-menus hpijs | 10:05 |
closure | kdenetwork kdenetwork-filesharing kdenetwork-kfile-plugins knetworkconf | 10:05 |
closure | knewsticker kopete kpf kppp krdc krfb kwifimanager libclamav1 libgcc1 | 10:05 |
closure | libgnome-menu0 libnspr4 libnss3 librss1 libsmbclient | 10:05 |
closure | linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 mozilla-browser mozilla-psm python-xdg | 10:05 |
closure | python2.4-samba samba-common smbclient sun-j2sdk1.5 xchat xchat-common | 10:05 |
closure | 39 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. | 10:05 |
closure | Need to get 163MB of archives. | 10:05 |
closure | that's intense | 10:05 |
Kamping_Kaiser | thats a flood | 10:05 |
closure | kamping go jump on a razor blade and tell someone who cares | 10:06 |
rodolfo | hi, after the boot this morning, the screen fonts were suddenly very big; the screen resolution did not change ... | 10:06 |
rodolfo | how could that be? | 10:07 |
closure | not sure | 10:07 |
closure | is it everywhere? | 10:07 |
rodolfo | yes | 10:07 |
closure | or just in one app | 10:07 |
rodolfo | every app | 10:07 |
closure | no clue | 10:07 |
closure | change it back | 10:07 |
rodolfo | the font-size? | 10:07 |
closure | yeah | 10:08 |
rodolfo | strange is that the value in the set-up did not change | 10:08 |
closure | that's very weird | 10:08 |
closure | did it change the display when you adjusted it? | 10:08 |
closure | in the set up that is | 10:09 |
rodolfo | I tried a smaller font, and it changed | 10:09 |
closure | *shrugs* | 10:09 |
closure | computers do strange shit sometimes | 10:09 |
rodolfo | but to get to the original size, I have to set a very small value! | 10:10 |
closure | i blame the matrix | 10:10 |
closure | and the agents | 10:10 |
rodolfo | it happened before with another distro | 10:10 |
rodolfo | maybe its a graphics display driver problem | 10:10 |
rodolfo | I tried to reconfigure xserver-xorg, but nothing | 10:11 |
rodolfo | what screen resolution do you use? | 10:11 |
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rodolfo | brb | 10:13 |
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rodolfo | what should I add in sources.list to install "lame"? | 10:30 |
Kamping_Kaiser | multiverse | 10:33 |
closure | rodolfo, i think i use 1240x680 or whatever | 10:34 |
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closure | http://sourceforge.net/projects/ninan/ | 10:38 |
closure | that says it's a "web application" | 10:39 |
closure | does that mean it would run in my web browser? | 10:39 |
rodolfo | Kamping_Kaiser: where do I find the lines to add? | 10:39 |
closure | http://www.ubuntuguides.org/#extrarepositories | 10:39 |
Kamping_Kaiser | just a minute | 10:39 |
Kamping_Kaiser | ^ yeh | 10:39 |
closure | rodolfo, that address | 10:39 |
rodolfo | thanks | 10:42 |
rodolfo | :( Unknown host | 10:43 |
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closure | http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories | 10:51 |
closure | rodolfo, sorry no s | 10:51 |
rodolfo | closure, ok | 10:58 |
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mindspin | hi, after uptading to kde 3.4.1 I'm experiencing frequently crashes of firefox and gxine. Any idea ? | 11:21 |
mindspin | updating | 11:21 |
closure | firefox i've always had problems with | 11:26 |
closure | and why are you running gxine? | 11:26 |
mindspin | I like it and both worked pretty good before | 11:27 |
closure | i mean why not use xine? | 11:27 |
mindspin | no idea, vdeo is not that important for me but the firefox crashes are really annoying | 11:28 |
closure | yeah | 11:29 |
closure | i switched from firefox to opera | 11:29 |
mindspin | I love firefox | 11:29 |
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closure | it's hard to set up but once it gets up it's far more stable and uses far less resources | 11:29 |
closure | still have no multimedia in mine thoguh | 11:29 |
closure | but then again i don't like multimedia in linux as i have yet to find any controls | 11:30 |
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ubuntu | kubuntu VS. knoppix? | 11:44 |
buz | knoppix is mostly live cd whereas kubuntu is preferably installed | 11:45 |
buz | knoppix can be installed but keeps breaking when you upgrade it | 11:45 |
ubuntu | I installed it, but it didn't not work on my pc with 2 video cards.. | 11:46 |
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ubuntu | yes, knoppix's init script have some problems when i upgraded kernel to 2.6.11 | 11:47 |
ubuntu | Gentoo is great :) | 11:48 |
ubuntu | buz, are u from mongo? | 11:49 |
ubuntu | ??? | 11:49 |
buz | no | 11:49 |
ubuntu | Chinese? | 11:49 |
buz | switzerland | 11:50 |
ubuntu | oh, good place :) | 11:50 |
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ubuntu | I'm from Beijing, China, i think you're from Mongolia from ur name :) | 11:53 |
hussam | hey, I just rebuild synaptic 0.57 and installed it on Hoary. But I didn't find and change from 0.55, is there a site for synaptic where I can find a changelog | 11:54 |
Tm_T | hussam: hmm, google might help :/ | 12:04 |
Tm_T | http://www.nongnu.org/synaptic/ | 12:04 |
hussam | ok thanks :) | 12:09 |
hussam | I built firefox linux installer from cvs 1.0.x branch today. | 12:10 |
hussam | the build process took almost 70 minutes. | 12:11 |
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Mystery | hello? | 12:35 |
Kamping_Kaiser | hi | 12:36 |
Mystery | i just installed kubuntu, just to check it out, so far i like it but i have a couple of issues | 12:36 |
Mystery | firstly, for some reason konqueror is duplicating every file in my folders | 12:37 |
Mystery | for example | 12:38 |
ztonzy | Mystery, I had the issue before too, just reload the dir | 12:38 |
ztonzy | and it will be gone | 12:38 |
Mystery | there's two downloads, two music folder, two of everything | 12:38 |
ztonzy | but I am using Gnome these days | 12:38 |
ztonzy | Mystery, yes...try to reload with CTRL+R or so | 12:38 |
ztonzy | but it is strange | 12:39 |
Mystery | oook | 12:39 |
Mystery | worked | 12:39 |
Mystery | wierd :S | 12:39 |
ztonzy | :) | 12:39 |
ztonzy | but it shouldn't happen | 12:39 |
Mystery | yer | 12:39 |
Mystery | maybe cus i have gnome installed aswell? | 12:39 |
Mystery | or something | 12:39 |
Mystery | anyway | 12:39 |
Mystery | ztonzy: do you know what the button to show the toolbar is? for example blender is fullscreen, in gnome i press alt+F10 and the bar jumps up | 12:40 |
Mystery | but here it's different | 12:40 |
ztonzy | Mystery, dunno, can't remember, I removed KDE from system | 12:41 |
Mystery | does anyone here know? | 12:41 |
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Mystery | ah well | 12:43 |
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Mystery | i have a small problem | 01:11 |
Mystery | after i logged out and back in again | 01:11 |
Mystery | the time dissapeared somewhere o.O | 01:11 |
Mystery | time/date dissapeared | 01:11 |
Tm_T | hmm, FreeCraft seems to be ok game | 01:12 |
Mystery | can anyone help? | 01:12 |
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Mez | Mystery - right click the panel, | 01:22 |
Mez | then add to panel | 01:22 |
Mez | applet | 01:22 |
Mez | clock | 01:22 |
Mystery | i looked | 01:23 |
Mystery | no clock | 01:23 |
Mystery | it's gone | 01:23 |
Mystery | O.O | 01:23 |
Mystery | i looked everywhere for the clock | 01:24 |
Mystery | something tells me it has turned into "applet 249" | 01:27 |
Mystery | and when i try to click it, it says it's broken | 01:27 |
Mystery | says | 01:28 |
Mystery | "applet could not be loaded. check your installation" | 01:28 |
Mystery | :S | 01:28 |
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Firetech | hmm, how do I start udev with correct permissions? "sudo /etc/init.d/udev start" sets wrong group (root) on some devices (tty* among others), which causes some programs (xterm) to stop working... | 01:53 |
Firetech | starting it after "sudo su -" doesn't help either | 01:53 |
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=== mode/#kubuntu [-o Riddell] by ChanServ | ||
=== ..[topic/#kubuntu:Riddell] : http://www.kubuntu.org/~amu/kubuntu-5.04.2-i386-live.iso | KDE 3.4.1: deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary-updates main | Unofficial Kubuntu FAQ http://kudos.berlios.de/ | Wiki Transition Tuesday | Use archive.ubuntu.com if us.archive.ubuntu.com gives md5sum errors | sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list | ||
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Tm_T | http://lincity-ng.berlios.de/wiki/index.php/Main_Page | 04:45 |
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foodcoman | Good Morning, Afternoon, Evening? | 05:23 |
foodcoman | How would one turn off files going to Trash. I would prefer to just have them deleted. | 05:23 |
seth_k | morning :) | 05:23 |
closure | food | 05:25 |
Riddell | foodcoman: shift-delete | 05:25 |
closure | foodcoman, you can press shift+del | 05:25 |
foodcoman | The KUDOS FAQ has some tips on showing and hiding the icon! | 05:25 |
closure | foodcoman, that's what i do | 05:25 |
foodcoman | Riddell: closure: That works for me. | 05:25 |
foodcoman | Thanks. | 05:25 |
foodcoman | Now that is reliable information...... 2 for 1! =) | 05:25 |
closure | oooh Riddell he thanked me! | 05:25 |
closure | lol j'k | 05:26 |
foodcoman | I will let you guys fight over it! ;-) | 05:26 |
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foodcoman | Joke: Which is it? Shift + delete or Shift - delete. Why did they have 3 keys. Seems like Shift Delete would be easier. | 05:28 |
foodcoman | I have a hard time getting to 3 keys. | 05:28 |
foodcoman | Joking. | 05:28 |
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airox | Hi! | 05:29 |
airox | When I login into KDE (with kdm) I get a background of (in my case) Kubuntu. Right after that it loads my own selected background. Is there a way to alter the background that is between kdm and my own ?? | 05:29 |
closure | foodcoman, it's like yoga you train your fingers to do things other people's can't | 05:29 |
foodcoman | Hahaha... | 05:30 |
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seth_k | airox: Control Center > System Administration > Login Manager > Background should control that background | 05:32 |
airox | tnx, let me check it out :) | 05:37 |
airox | works perfectly! | 05:38 |
airox | tnx again seth_k ! | 05:38 |
seth_k | :) | 05:40 |
seth_k | glad i could help you | 05:40 |
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kalenedrael | ok, i need yacc and it's not in the apt repos | 06:33 |
mrmanic | do you actually need yacc? | 06:34 |
mrmanic | or just a yacc-like tool? | 06:34 |
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kalenedrael | ok, i fixed it | 06:39 |
kalenedrael | got bison and flex | 06:39 |
kalenedrael | yeah, so | 06:40 |
kalenedrael | rebooting | 06:41 |
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Wimpie | hi all, anybody has some nice KUBUNTU CD labels ? | 07:04 |
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kalenedrael | no | 07:05 |
kalenedrael | shouldn't be hard to make your own though | 07:06 |
philipacamaniac | I remember seeing some on kde-look | 07:06 |
Wimpie | any idea where ? | 07:06 |
philipacamaniac | looking... | 07:06 |
philipacamaniac | I present to you: http://process-of-elimination.net/?q=kubuntu_cd_labels_svg_and_png | 07:08 |
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douglas | Has anyone played hl2 in kubuntu here, and if so what optimizations can I make to make it run better? | 07:08 |
airox | O_o | 07:08 |
Wimpie | philipacamaniac : thx | 07:09 |
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edulix | hey | 07:17 |
edulix | the cursor movement sometimes (when CPU is doing something) is not smooth. how can I fix that ? | 07:17 |
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edulix | I have an ATI with open source drivers | 07:18 |
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slow-motion | hello | 07:19 |
edulix | hi ! | 07:19 |
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ubuntu | hello | 07:26 |
ubuntu | somebody can help me ? | 07:26 |
ubuntu | what's the root passwd on the live-cd of kubuntu ?? | 07:27 |
philipacamaniac | there isn't one | 07:27 |
philipacamaniac | use sudo to do root activities | 07:27 |
ubuntu | when i do : su : it wants a psswd | 07:28 |
philipacamaniac | try "sudo -i" | 07:28 |
ubuntu | yes | 07:29 |
ubuntu | thx ! | 07:29 |
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poptix | so | 07:35 |
_pablo | hola | 07:36 |
poptix | ubuntu is like, a somewhat fixed debian | 07:36 |
_pablo | hola | 07:36 |
poptix | and kubuntu is a somewhat fixed debian with a decent gui | 07:36 |
_pablo | hello | 07:36 |
poptix | aloh | 07:36 |
poptix | a | 07:36 |
_pablo | mi na,e is pablo | 07:36 |
_pablo | my name is pablo | 07:36 |
_pablo | and we? | 07:36 |
poptix | my name is pablo | 07:36 |
_pablo | ok bery match | 07:37 |
edulix | hey Xorg is using here 792mb of ram. wtf? | 07:37 |
_pablo | ee | 07:37 |
mrmanic | that is a lot of ram | 07:37 |
ijuz_ | edulix: mappings, most likely | 07:37 |
edulix | well it's virtual ram, swap | 07:37 |
_pablo | I'am Ispanish | 07:38 |
edulix | but I haven't got much more remaining | 07:38 |
edulix | soy espaol tb pablo :) | 07:38 |
_pablo | yo tambien | 07:38 |
ijuz_ | there is some small tool to analyse what the memory footprint of X contains | 07:38 |
_pablo | cuatos aos tiebes | 07:38 |
ijuz_ | but i forgot the name ;) | 07:38 |
_pablo | ? | 07:38 |
_pablo | eeeooo | 07:39 |
edulix | pablo: esto no es un canal de ligue xD. tengo 18 just for the record | 07:39 |
poptix | Mi nombre es Pablo, y voy a matarle | 07:39 |
_pablo | por que? | 07:39 |
edulix | poptix: yeah paranoia hehe | 07:39 |
poptix | Usted toc a mi madre de una manera impura | 07:40 |
_pablo | ninigfif | 07:40 |
_pablo | gfbgdsb | 07:40 |
_pablo | dfssd | 07:40 |
_pablo | dsg | 07:40 |
_pablo | s | 07:40 |
_pablo | gdf | 07:40 |
_pablo | dffs | 07:40 |
_pablo | dfs | 07:40 |
_pablo | s | 07:40 |
_pablo | dg | 07:40 |
_pablo | sd | 07:40 |
_pablo | g | 07:40 |
_pablo | dg | 07:40 |
_pablo | ds | 07:40 |
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_pablo | ds | 07:40 |
_pablo | sd | 07:40 |
mrmanic | wtf? | 07:40 |
_pablo | sd | 07:40 |
_pablo | sd | 07:40 |
_pablo | s | 07:40 |
mrmanic | _pablo: please stop that. | 07:40 |
_pablo | dg | 07:40 |
_pablo | g | 07:41 |
_pablo | d | 07:41 |
_pablo | s | 07:41 |
_pablo | d | 07:41 |
_pablo | s | 07:41 |
_pablo | sd | 07:41 |
_pablo | df | 07:41 |
edulix | someone please kick him | 07:41 |
_pablo | s | 07:41 |
mrmanic | oh man, what I wouldn't give for chanops | 07:41 |
_pablo | sdf | 07:41 |
_pablo | s | 07:41 |
_pablo | gf | 07:41 |
_pablo | df | 07:41 |
_pablo | fg | 07:41 |
_pablo | df | 07:41 |
_pablo | df | 07:41 |
_pablo | f | 07:41 |
_pablo | g | 07:41 |
_pablo | fds | 07:41 |
_pablo | sd | 07:41 |
edulix | pablo: madura un poco anda | 07:41 |
_pablo | df | 07:41 |
_pablo | df | 07:41 |
_pablo | f | 07:41 |
_pablo | f | 07:41 |
_pablo | f | 07:41 |
_pablo | bdf | 07:41 |
_pablo | f | 07:41 |
_pablo | gb | 07:41 |
philipacamaniac | we don't have any ops | 07:41 |
_pablo | g | 07:41 |
_pablo | g | 07:41 |
mrmanic | incidentally, #kubuntu-es is available for spanish-speaking kubuntu users | 07:41 |
_pablo | bf | 07:42 |
_pablo | d | 07:42 |
_pablo | df | 07:42 |
_pablo | d | 07:42 |
_pablo | bok | 07:42 |
_pablo | ok | 07:42 |
_pablo | vdfv | 07:42 |
_pablo | 07:42 | |
_pablo | v | 07:42 |
_pablo | fg | 07:42 |
mrmanic | it's empty, though. | 07:42 |
_pablo | gf | 07:42 |
_pablo | bf | 07:42 |
_pablo | fd | 07:42 |
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_pablo | df | 07:42 |
_pablo | df | 07:42 |
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mrmanic | nice | 07:42 |
mrmanic | Riddell: you're a rockstar | 07:42 |
philipacamaniac | Hurray! Three cheers for Riddell | 07:42 |
spiral | hmmm... I've got a problem with kmail : for some e-mails I receive, I've got strange characters like [] instead of accents & so on in the preview mail, but not if I open the mail | 07:43 |
spiral | does anyone here have any idea ? | 07:43 |
KaiL_ | what was that? | 07:43 |
edulix | I suspected, hidden chanops in the channel are ! | 07:43 |
edulix | :) | 07:43 |
philipacamaniac | a bot, I think | 07:44 |
poptix | spiral: your preview font is different than your view font | 07:44 |
mrmanic | philipacamaniac: a bot or some dude with WAY too much free time. | 07:44 |
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spiral | poptix: hmmmm, maybe... do you know where I should change this setting ? | 07:44 |
edulix | mrmanic: I went to #kubuntu-es - empty but with a topic so yes, it exists :) | 07:45 |
poptix | spiral: somewhere in the prefs i'm sure. | 07:45 |
Tm_T | wtf | 07:45 |
poptix | i don't think many mexicans have money, let alone reliable power, for a computer | 07:45 |
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poptix | and the ones that do, probably speak english. | 07:45 |
edulix | philippacamaniac: perhaps someone has adapted spamassesin to IRC ?! hehe | 07:46 |
spiral | poptix: isn't it rather a problem with utf8 & so on ? | 07:46 |
poptix | spiral: yes, the preview font probably isn't utf8 | 07:46 |
edulix | poptix: he was mexican ? | 07:47 |
spiral | poptix: i don't find anything specific regarding fonts in the conf | 07:47 |
poptix | edulix: shrug, he was speaking spanish =P | 07:47 |
poptix | close enough for me (a dumb white american) | 07:47 |
philipacamaniac | "don't think mexicans have money" - way to spread the Ubuntu spirit... ignore the fact that a huge percentage of Americans are Hispanic | 07:47 |
poptix | apparently he's actually spanish | 07:48 |
edulix | poptix: blah, I'm a dumb white spanish :P | 07:48 |
poptix | (from spain) | 07:48 |
poptix | philipacamaniac: no, a large percentage of people in the USA are hispanic | 07:48 |
poptix | they aren't americans. | 07:48 |
poptix | you have to be a citizen for that. | 07:49 |
philipacamaniac | that's debatable, but since I'm a WASP, I won't say anything :) | 07:49 |
poptix | i have no idea what that is, but it sounds like a racial slur =P | 07:50 |
ijuz_ | they are hiding in the usa with their ubunut boxes? | 07:50 |
edulix | that remains me the last operation of spanish goverment: to give papers (citienship) to people working here so that noone treats them like shit.. | 07:50 |
philipacamaniac | White Anglo Saxon Protestant (American) - The most hated person on the planet, maybe... | 07:50 |
poptix | philipacamaniac: ah, joy. | 07:51 |
philipacamaniac | I'm just playing, dude | 07:51 |
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poptix | people can whine about stereotypes all they want, but they exist for a reason =P | 07:51 |
edulix | philipacamaniac: well there a lot of chinese people in this world. whoever they hate will be the most hated person in the world, stadistically | 07:52 |
poptix | i think the chinese hate taiwan =P | 07:52 |
philipacamaniac | edulix: I like your train of thought... that's quite rational | 07:52 |
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poptix | maybe the british for colonizing them | 07:52 |
goo | hello. How can I get the kde-bluetooth package on ubuntu? | 07:53 |
philipacamaniac | And I'm pretty sure they hate me | 07:53 |
goo | I can't find out :( | 07:53 |
edulix | philipacamaniac: hehehe ;-) | 07:53 |
edulix | well now it's time to study a bit, see you later! | 07:53 |
edulix | goo: try to use kynaptic (or synaptic) to locate the package. search for common words like bluetooth. | 07:54 |
philipacamaniac | goo: It has't been uploaded to Universe yet, but the testing package is here http://dev.kubuntu.org.uk/~motaboy/ubuntu/ | 07:54 |
foodcoman | Has anyone installed the IVTV drivers and Mythtv? | 07:55 |
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goo | edulix: I tried... no cigar | 07:55 |
foodcoman | I have a Hauppage PVR-350 I want to get working under Kubuntu! | 07:55 |
goo | philipacamaniac: Nice! | 07:55 |
goo | philipacamaniac: thanks a lot! | 07:55 |
foodcoman | MythTV seems easy enough with Multiverse and apt... | 07:56 |
philipacamaniac | goo: There are a few problems (package-related, mostly). Read the comments here: http://ubuntu.com/wiki/MOTUNewPackages | 07:56 |
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goo | philipacamaniac: argh. How do I add that repo to my sources.list? deb http://dev.kubuntu.org.uk/~motaboy/ubuntu hoary ./ doesn't do the trick? | 08:01 |
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philipacamaniac | don't add it to your sources.list - it is an experimental package, and a developer's personal repo. Browse to it in your web browser and download the package (it is a .deb file). | 08:02 |
goo | ah. ok. | 08:02 |
goo | thanks | 08:02 |
douglas | Where in kubuntu can I find a place to add options for agp cards (nvidia) so I can force 8x, fastwrite, and some other things. I read online that /etc/modules.conf is standard, but it's not there in kubuntu? | 08:03 |
Riddell | goo: remove the hoary | 08:03 |
Riddell | deb http://dev.kubuntu.org.uk/~motaboy/ubuntu ./ | 08:03 |
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philipacamaniac | douglas - graphics card options are set in /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 08:05 |
douglas | oh, thanks | 08:05 |
douglas | philipacamaniac: Where would I use what they are saying on this page ? ---> http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=60 | 08:08 |
goo | Heh. "Bluetooth is listed, but is unselectable when I try to add a new bluetooth device.. | 08:08 |
goo | err, a new obex device | 08:08 |
philipacamaniac | goo: it is an experimental package at this point in time - you can attempt to compile from source yourself | 08:12 |
goo | philipacamaniac: It was the same problem in Gentoo 4 months ago - either kdebluetooth is f*cked or I have to go and read some manuals all over again... :( | 08:14 |
philipacamaniac | kdebluetooth itself is still in beta | 08:14 |
philipacamaniac | I haven't personally tried it, so I can't say either way | 08:14 |
philipacamaniac | douglas: perhaps those options go in /etc/modprobe.conf ? | 08:15 |
philipacamaniac | douglas: scratch that, it is obsolete, I think I found the place | 08:16 |
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philipacamaniac | douglas: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=165361&postcount=2 | 08:17 |
douglas | sorry, I've been reading myself, I'll check it out. | 08:27 |
douglas | will I have to restart my box to test this you think? | 08:29 |
philipacamaniac | hmm, probably... | 08:30 |
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_chris | is Kweather broken in Hoary? | 09:31 |
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jeramy | _chris: you just have to poke it a few times | 09:39 |
jeramy | I added a weather station or two, closed it, re-opened it | 09:40 |
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philipacamaniac | maybe try "dcop KWeatherService WeatherService updateAll" | 09:40 |
jeramy | deleted the "Unknown Weather Station" a few times... | 09:40 |
jeramy | and now it works. :) | 09:40 |
jeramy | philipacamaniac: I'd try that, but mine works now, and I don't want to touch it. ;) | 09:41 |
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_chris | kweather keeps adding a 0000 station. - no matter how many times i delete it comes back | 09:50 |
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eric_p | hi, i need some help with kubuntu... | 09:58 |
eric_p | i certainly did a mistake and now, when i enter my user name and password in kdm, kde won't start (kdm restarts) | 09:58 |
eric_p | an idea ? | 09:58 |
eric_p | i only installed a webcam driver recently, and i don't see any relation... | 09:58 |
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mrmanic | eric_p: that's pretty bad. | 10:08 |
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mrmanic | eric_p: can you log in via the console? | 10:08 |
eric_p | yes | 10:08 |
eric_p | the problem is to launch an x session | 10:08 |
mrmanic | eric_p: did the webcam driver install modify your xorg.conf? | 10:08 |
eric_p | i think that it doesn't modidy it | 10:09 |
eric_p | but i'm not sure: i used a script (quickcam.sh) which was in the driver source package | 10:09 |
mrmanic | eric_p: check ls -la /etc/X11 | 10:10 |
mrmanic | and see what the modification date on your xorg.conf is | 10:10 |
eric_p | is there a way to launch kde without kdm, or to repair kdm ? | 10:10 |
mrmanic | I don't know about kdm | 10:11 |
mrmanic | you might investigate dpkg-reconfigure | 10:11 |
eric_p | mrmanic: good idea to check the date of the file, thanks. (i can't tell you the answer for now for i had to boot another partition) | 10:12 |
eric_p | mrmanic: I will try to investigate dpkg-reconfigure too | 10:12 |
mrmanic | another option is to move your .kde directory to .kdebak or something temporarily | 10:12 |
mrmanic | in case something in your .kde dir is causing the issue. | 10:13 |
mrmanic | oh | 10:13 |
mrmanic | de | 10:13 |
mrmanic | der | 10:13 |
mrmanic | and check the x logs | 10:13 |
eric_p | ok, i will try. but i fear the problem is not "user-related" | 10:13 |
mrmanic | in /var/log/, I think | 10:13 |
eric_p | i already checked the kdm log and the xorg log | 10:13 |
eric_p | nothing bad | 10:13 |
mrmanic | no dice? | 10:13 |
mrmanic | weird | 10:13 |
eric_p | only a few errors with font paths, but i think they already existed before | 10:14 |
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froud | can anyone point me to some docs that give guidelines regarding the resource allocations on an X-Server for each X-Terminal connected by XDMCP? | 10:17 |
ijuz_ | application dependent | 10:17 |
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froud | yes | 10:18 |
froud | KDM | 10:18 |
ijuz_ | and budget dependent | 10:18 |
ijuz_ | i would go for at least 100 MB/user | 10:19 |
froud | just need rules of thumb | 10:19 |
froud | use case is an Internet cafe | 10:19 |
eric_p | mrmanic: thank you very much for your help ! I will reboot into kubuntu and try the hints you gave me. It's a pity I have only one computer so i can't chat during the time I do tests | 10:19 |
mrmanic | eric_p: you could chat with a console chat app like ircii. | 10:20 |
froud | customers come and go nver know what PC they will get on next visit | 10:20 |
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froud | ijuz_: 100 MB RAM or Virtual Memory | 10:21 |
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ijuz_ | froud: 100 MB should be enough, perhaps even a bit less, try it out | 10:21 |
eric_p | yes, good idea... | 10:21 |
froud | ijuz_: so 10 users = 1GB RAM? | 10:21 |
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ijuz_ | yeah, sounds resonable | 10:22 |
ijuz_ | hm, well, if budget is a problem, you could try first with 512, but i have doubts, depends on how many webpages opened etc. | 10:23 |
froud | ijuz_: does the server itself not need ram of its own? | 10:23 |
froud | so min 256 for the server and 100 per session | 10:24 |
ijuz_ | froud: a bit, the question is your budget, the smaller it is, so more you can try, i would just stick in 2 GB and forget it | 10:24 |
ijuz_ | froud: really hard to say, when you allready have a server running, open several connections to it, use some Xnest on another system | 10:25 |
froud | OK, and stick the normal swap guidelines? | 10:25 |
nmorse | A couple of Gigs, dual Opterons and you can run about 30 thin clients | 10:25 |
nmorse | There's an article around here somewhere on it | 10:25 |
nmorse | Using PXEboot | 10:25 |
froud | Hmmm that's a good ratio | 10:25 |
froud | nmorse: url | 10:26 |
nmorse | Hang on | 10:26 |
nmorse | It was about running a school lab on it | 10:26 |
froud | yeah kinda need the same setup | 10:26 |
ijuz_ | froud: bigger swap doesn't harm, just do it at least double the size | 10:26 |
jjesse | i thought i read something on it in linux journal or something? | 10:27 |
jjesse | bout running a school lab or something? | 10:27 |
froud | yeah I been googling and have null | 10:27 |
nmorse | That's a different article, but it might be useful | 10:27 |
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nmorse | http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7418 is the one jjesse was talking about | 10:27 |
froud | anyone have ideas about a crm/billing software for a Linux-based Internet Cafe? | 10:28 |
froud | nmorse: thanks | 10:28 |
ijuz_ | froud: you could also search for skolelinux | 10:28 |
nmorse | Billing software, like to set a time to use it | 10:29 |
froud | yes customer buy time and spend it in units | 10:29 |
nmorse | hmm, I know you can set it up for limited amounts of time | 10:29 |
nmorse | But then you'd need to write a GUI program so they can select their account and how many units | 10:30 |
froud | I tought there was a sofware called Open-Caffe | 10:30 |
nmorse | and probably a system tray device to tell them how much time they have left | 10:30 |
nmorse | Never heard of Open-Caffe | 10:30 |
froud | nmorse: I wonder if such a solution exists | 10:30 |
nmorse | Probably does | 10:31 |
nmorse | I wonder if there's a linux channel on freenode here that does that stuff | 10:31 |
froud | what whoul dyou google for? | 10:31 |
nmorse | What are you using to do this, distro-wise? | 10:32 |
nmorse | Linux Terminal Server Project, maybe? | 10:32 |
ijuz_ | look on freshmeat, surely somebody had this problem | 10:32 |
froud | yeah I considered using ltsp | 10:33 |
ijuz_ | but anyway, when you worry about resources and can't put the money for a fast server on the table, you should get thin clients instead of xterminals | 10:33 |
nmorse | IBM made a bunch of PXE-bootable PII systems | 10:33 |
nmorse | You can buy them by the truckload | 10:34 |
nmorse | Maybe $30 a piece sometimes | 10:34 |
nmorse | Then just have them boot off of the server, and instant systems with no local hard drives | 10:34 |
nmorse | A 450 mHz PII will run KDE, et als. just fine if you put 256 MB RAM in it | 10:34 |
froud | that's the best way | 10:34 |
heart | where do i have to write "numlockx" in so that it will be started on every boot? | 10:35 |
froud | ok dudes, thanks for everyting. must go bed now, sleeep needed | 10:35 |
ijuz_ | froud: the problem is that when a webbrowser blows up it affects other uses probably | 10:36 |
froud | ijuz_: I also have a copy of this http://learnlinux.tsf.org.za/courses/web-tuxlabs.html but its a bit more complicated that I want and expensive | 10:37 |
froud | laters | 10:37 |
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eric_p | mrmanic: i tried all your advices but nothing worked :( | 10:44 |
mrmanic | eric_p: well that's terrible. | 10:45 |
mrmanic | eric_p: I'm pretty much out of ideas | 10:45 |
eric_p | even with a new user, impossible to launch kde | 10:45 |
mrmanic | eric_p: do you have gdm installed? | 10:45 |
eric_p | my xorg.conf has not been modified | 10:45 |
eric_p | no, i havent gnome... | 10:45 |
mrmanic | I see. | 10:45 |
eric_p | maybe i could try to apt-get install it... | 10:46 |
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mrmanic | that's an option | 10:46 |
mrmanic | another option would be to see if you have xdm installed | 10:46 |
mrmanic | and try setting that as the default login manager | 10:46 |
eric_p | xdm: command not found | 10:47 |
mrmanic | eric_p: so you'd have to apt-get that too | 10:48 |
mrmanic | or instead | 10:48 |
mrmanic | I don't know what dependencies gdm has. | 10:48 |
mrmanic | so I'd prefer to install xdm rather than gdm, if I were running a pure kde system. | 10:48 |
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othernoob | hey, when i click on storage media and get to media:/ in konqueror, nothing shows up. this never happened before. | 10:50 |
mrmanic | othernoob: is kded running? | 10:50 |
eric_p | mrmanic: i think i found my problem... | 10:50 |
mrmanic | eric_p: what is it? | 10:51 |
eric_p | i'm so stupid | 10:51 |
eric_p | i installed gdm | 10:51 |
othernoob | mrmanic how do i find out | 10:51 |
mrmanic | othernoob: ps -A | grep kded | 10:51 |
eric_p | i llaunched it, i tried to log in and i got an error message: can't write in the authorization file, or no space free on disk | 10:52 |
abisen | i am transferring my files through sftp and the transfer speed is 1.1 MB/s where as it should be around 10 then i start multiple transfers and all are giving me 1.1 MB/s simultaneously so i guess there is some setting that is throttelling that speed | 10:52 |
eric_p | i tried df and... 0% free | 10:52 |
mrmanic | ah | 10:52 |
abisen | can some body tell me if there is a setting (default) in kubuntu | 10:52 |
mrmanic | that'll do it. | 10:52 |
mrmanic | eric_p: see if you can free up some space :) | 10:52 |
othernoob | mrmanic, yea its running | 10:52 |
eric_p | what is strange is that i could download the about 10 mo of gdm... | 10:53 |
mrmanic | eric_p: is your /home on a different partition from your /? | 10:53 |
eric_p | no | 10:53 |
eric_p | only swp is on another partition | 10:53 |
mrmanic | I have no idea, then. | 10:53 |
mrmanic | othernoob: I'm not sure how to debug this. I ran into it once before, and it was b/c kded died | 10:54 |
mrmanic | othernoob: apparently that's not your problem | 10:54 |
eric_p | ok, i'll free some space and i will retry, thank you for everything | 10:54 |
othernoob | mrmanic: i haven't rebooted yet, because i'm dling something, but its the first time it happened :/ | 10:54 |
mrmanic | np. I hope that was your only problem. | 10:55 |
othernoob | not a big prob at the moment, but a bit annoying | 10:55 |
mrmanic | othernoob: you could always try killing and restarting kded. I don't _THINK_ that would affect your downloads. (no guarantees, of course) | 10:55 |
othernoob | mrmanic: i just copied everything i needed via konsole. i'll see if it's a permanent problem tomorrow :) but thanks, ill keep that in mind | 10:57 |
mrmanic | ok | 10:57 |
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heart | what do i have to install so that i have java enabled in firefox? | 11:19 |
ruhib | see http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre | 11:20 |
heart | in which repos. is "sun-j2re1.5"? | 11:22 |
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heart | get "E: Konnte Paket sun-j2re1.5 nicht finden" | 11:23 |
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ruhib | I use http://ubuntujava.yimports.com/ | 11:27 |
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_chris | i caught the end of the sun jre conversation. what repository is that in? | 11:32 |
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eric_p | mrmanic: i managed to launch kde :) | 11:34 |
eric_p | thank you for your advices | 11:35 |
eric_p | it was just a problem of disk space, (my disk is very very small) but apt-get clean was sufficient | 11:36 |
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