=== fir3 [~fir3@p54ADE5AA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #Kubuntu [12:14] Hi all [12:14] hello [12:14] I need some help with my DVD drive... [12:14] ask away [12:15] ...its not recognised by the kernel [12:15] "/dev/hdc" is missing [12:16] 1) are you sure it's /dev/hdc? [12:16] yes and the jumpers are set correctly [12:16] ok [12:16] dmesg: NFORCE3-250: BIOS didn't set cable bits correctly. Enabling workaround. [12:16] hm [12:17] strange isn't it? [12:19] dmesg: ide1: Wait for ready failed before probe ! [12:19] did you jumper it master or cs? [12:20] master [12:20] so retry with cs [12:20] for both drives? [12:21] i has allready such odd things, it may help [12:21] probably also the cable is trash [12:22] well, maybe, but I really hate to say that: it works on windoze [12:24] yes, unfortunally ide is a fpos with the documentation the same [12:25] oh, one thing [12:25] is the master at the end of the cable? [12:25] yes [12:25] slave in middle [12:25] (it should be this way) [12:25] yes [12:26] what is fpos? [12:26] fucking piece of shit [12:26] okay [12:26] it really is! [12:26] at least as long as it don't wirk === claydoh|away is now known as claydoh [12:28] I guess I'll really have to try another cable... [12:28] sick of trying now [12:28] thank you guys === claydoh [~claydoh@65.99.187.239] has joined #kubuntu === Damyan [~Damyan@nat-ph3-wh.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has joined #kubuntu [12:34] hi ! [12:35] is it possible to disable the passphrase ask in Kmail on gpg signed mail sending ? === claydoh [~claydoh@65.99.187.239] has joined #kubuntu [12:36] i know it's unsecure... but only localy so what about typing a 35 caracters pass everyday [12:40] tibal, not directly [12:40] tibal, see http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_KMail_gpg-agent_kde [12:40] gpg-agent is your answer [12:40] seth_k: tx i read it [12:43] seth_k: is it necessary to create ~/.kde3.3/env ? will ~/.kde/env work since i don't have any ~/.kde3.3/ ? [12:43] tibal, that's a gentoo wiki, so yeah i'd adopt it for Kubuntu [12:44] seth_k: yes [12:46] bye [12:46] you're welcome *sigh* === SlicerDicer- [~Slicer@c-67-160-114-35.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu [~ubuntu@212.106.242.232.adsl.jazztel.es] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu is now known as EnRRaLaO === tibal [~tibal@aki.tibal.info] has joined #kubuntu === Octane [~octane@dsl092-100-149.nyc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu === gagarin [~gagarin@230.Red-80-39-1.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === gagarin [~gagarin@230.Red-80-39-1.pooles.rima-tde.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === Mez slaps seth_k === hussam [~hussam@194.126.31.19] has joined #kubuntu [01:09] phuoh === UdontKno1 [udontknow@udontknow.staff.freenode] has joined #Kubuntu === omni_lonnie [~lonnie@home.limbonia.com] has joined #kubuntu === UdontKno1 is now known as UdontKnow === synd [~synd@h84.32.55.139.ip.alltel.net] has joined #kubuntu === wc_nix [~wc@cpe-68-201-86-117.stx.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === __Ace__ [~love@h55l211.delphi.afb.lu.se] has joined #kubuntu === synd [~synd@h84.32.55.139.ip.alltel.net] has left #kubuntu [] === quickbrownfox [~p@host81-129-58-139.range81-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu === _nicolas [~nicolas@62.34.83.221] has joined #kubuntu === _nicolas [~nicolas@62.34.83.221] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === _freak [~freak@pool-151-203-24-77.bos.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:35] <_freak> hi all. [01:37] hi [01:38] <_freak> stupid question. Is LINUX pronounced with a long i like the i in line or with a short i like the i in linen? === SlicerDicer- [~Slicer@c-67-160-114-35.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === HillTop [~hilltop@cpe-66-91-252-59.san.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === quickbrownfox [~p@host81-129-58-139.range81-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:41] linen [01:42] folks. kubunto install freezes at "setting up xlibs" [01:42] and on boot it freezes at "sysenter_past_esp" [01:42] any ideas? [01:43] something is broken with a your disk or b your system [01:43] or c both *g* [01:43] _freak, actualluy, line... not linen... :D [01:43] Mez, it's not a long I O_O [01:44] <_freak> uh oh. [01:44] seth_k, [01:44] LINUS [01:44] it's 'lih-nux', not 'liy-nux', unless you're a brit maybe :D [01:44] crap [01:44] seth_k: it is ;) [01:44] I know, I know [01:44] pronounced same as the LINU in that === seth_k searches [01:45] but Tm_T might know better, he speaks the same language as Linus ;) [01:45] maybe it's a Missouri thing :D *everyone* I know uses hard I === nxv_ [~nxv_@dsl-084-056-095-041.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:45] <_freak> I started a fight? [01:45] <_freak> ;0 [01:45] KaiL_: that's quite broad :/ [01:45] <_freak> so, it's soft i like linen? [01:46] http://www.paul.sladen.org/pronunciation/ [01:46] decide for yourself [01:46] quickbrownfox: do you have stabillity issues on other systems? [01:46] KaiL_: no other systems to try it on [01:46] does not sound like long I as in "drive" to me [01:46] KaiL_: i'm on a laptop btw [01:47] KaiL_: wha? [01:47] no _freak, it's pronounced LINE UK [01:47] UX* [01:47] eh [01:47] Mez, that's not what that link says... [01:47] listen to the file [01:47] link? [01:47] http://www.paul.sladen.org/pronunciation/ [01:47] it's Linux [01:48] lol [01:48] thanks, that helps :D [01:48] <_freak> :) [01:48] =) [01:48] the recording almost sounds like LEE NUX [01:48] seth_k: it's like "lenux" ;) [01:48] <_freak> we don't need a third uption [01:48] <_freak> option, too. [01:48] haha [01:48] Tm_T: leenux or lenux? [01:49] seth_k: say "unix" [01:49] Tm_T: lenux is a hard e, leenux is a long e [01:49] yoo nix? [01:49] yes, same "i" in linux [01:49] :D [01:49] I was right then [01:49] yup === seth_k laughs at Mez as Mez slinks off [01:50] :P j/k [01:50] we pronounce letters quite straight way [01:50] Tm_T, if there's linus torvalds, [01:50] promonuced line us [01:50] shoudldnt linux be line ux [01:50] hm [01:50] nnno [01:51] <_freak> I guess it wasn't a stupid question [01:51] I pronounce linus and linux same way [01:51] we pronounce letters quite straight way << or better: as most europeans, but not the english people do? ;) [01:51] lin us? [01:51] you dont promounce linus line us [01:51] i don't think there are direct comparisons between the vowel sounds in Linus and those of the english language [01:51] I pronounce Linus with short I [01:51] linus pronounces it "leenoos" [01:51] leenus [01:51] jah [01:51] o_O [01:51] yup [01:51] It's lineus! [01:51] haha [01:52] <_freak> lol [01:52] US-Line! [01:52] err [01:52] that's looks like linears [01:52] the english "e" is somewhat similar spoken to others "i" [01:52] damn furriner can't pronounce his own name ... they all need to learn 'merican and talk right [01:52] as in "english" ;) [01:52] KaiL_: yeah, somewhat [01:52] http://www.paul.sladen.org/pronunciation/torvalds-says-linux.wav [01:52] I cant hear that [01:52] but it's linus saying it [01:52] Mez: try the mp3 [01:53] heh [01:53] <_freak> the open source communtity today was brought to it's knees today. The question long or short i. [01:53] you can't play a raw pcm wav? [01:53] short! [01:53] chances are you can [01:53] well it;s taking ages :P [01:53] foooooood ;) -> [01:53] _freak: that debate was over long ago, everyone pronounces it right now [01:53] even the media === sproingie used to use a long I, but that was before hearing linus pronounce it [01:54] personally i think he shoulda stuck with the old name: freax [01:54] <_freak> that's easy. [01:55] sure? ;) [01:55] <_freak> ok, here's a question. Anybody else having trouble with the apt-get repostories today? [01:55] sproingie: the pronounciation is somewhat "obvious" for most european people [01:56] no vittu sanokaa lyhyt ii [01:56] _freak - read the topic [01:56] damn yooros can't speak 'merican neither [01:56] We are currently experiencing problems with the US and CA Ubuntu Mirrors === ..[topic/#kubuntu:Mez] : http://www.kubuntu.org/~amu/kubuntu-5.04.2-i386-live.iso | Congratulations to motaboy on membership | KDE 3.4.1: deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary-updates main | Unofficial Kubuntu FAQ http://kudos.berlios.de/ | We are currently experiencing problems with the US and CA Ubuntu Mirrors | Wiki Transition Tuesday [01:56] and many other sites are "down" too [01:56] <_freak> lol [01:57] like kde sites [01:57] <_freak> Oh, that's what that meant. [01:57] what the sam hell's going on? [01:57] <_freak> lol [01:57] Mez: US and CA mirror are the same machine [01:57] Seth - I know [01:57] <_freak> thought it was some irc thingy. I'm a newb and half. Sorry. [01:57] I was quitoing the topic [01:57] one mirror for ~300Mio possible customers? ;) [01:58] ihme sakkia [01:58] uh! [01:58] rrock [01:59] what does motaboy have membership to? [02:00] he's ecome an ubuntu member [02:00] he's a new Ubuntu Member [02:01] kewl [02:01] my name was never ont he topic line [02:01] sniff sniff [02:02] uliu [02:02] <_freak> don't sniff too hard. It's hot here. I may stink. [02:02] lol [02:03] <_freak> (there's no 'may' about it) [02:03] I know it too well === jeramy [~jeramy@dsl-139-209.aei.ca] has joined #kubuntu [02:04] <_freak> thanks for you help everyone. [02:04] buggery fuck. well i guess i just have to give up on kubuntu then [02:04] <_freak> laterz. [02:04] <_freak> quit [02:04] Welcome Jeramy...be careful....freakin's a stinkin' [02:04] <_freak> lol [02:04] <_freak> freaks a leavin. [02:04] <_freak> :) [02:04] <_freak> bye [02:04] <_freak> quit [02:04] so far out of kubuntu, fc3 and suse, only suse has installed [02:04] bye Freak! [02:04] SuSE is always a good easy install === incubii [~incubii@61.68.51.101] has joined #kubuntu [02:05] fc3 just had some crazy error when starting the installer that i couldn't get around [02:06] linux has a way to go before it just works [02:06] maybe my being on a laptop doesn't help [02:06] what went wrong with the Kubuntu install? [02:06] froze on setting up xlibs [02:06] on boot it freezes at sysenter_past_esp [02:06] I had trouble with my install on my laptop too [02:07] quickbrownfox: amd64? ;) [02:07] nop [02:07] penguinboy: what kind of laptop? [02:08] make? gericom [02:08] IBM Thinkpad R40 [02:08] and what kind of trouble? [02:08] Gericom? Uhm... yeeees :) [02:08] what's that supposed to mean :P [02:08] do you think, buying it was a good idea? *fg* [02:08] yes [02:08] it's was the best value when i bought it [02:08] by quite a bit [02:08] ...until you need a new Accu and they don't even react [02:09] accu? [02:09] battery [02:09] well it's been fine for the past 10 months [02:10] that was mine too [02:10] 2 more and it was dead [02:10] hv [02:10] ei jaksa [02:10] -> [02:10] asking for a new one? well, the shop ordered (that was in 2001) [02:10] no reaction until today [02:11] well one individual case is never enough to go on [02:11] Gericom is known to be very very bad quality... === quickbrownfox hopes mine will last =] [02:12] penguinboy: and what kind of trouble? [02:13] I partitioned my hardrive...installed....and then messed up the boot record...could not boot into Windows or Linux....took my forever to fix [02:13] quickbrownfox: what did you run on it before installing kubuntu? [02:13] if I could get Kubuntu to work with my wireless...I would dump Windows entirely [02:14] suse on the linux partition, and xp [02:14] penguinboy: I guess, the partition you used for kubuntu existed before? (or one with same size but other OS at the same place?) [02:14] quickbrownfox: was that stable? [02:14] yes it was [02:15] yes Kail....the partition was used by Ubuntu === _drake [~drake@c-67-164-146-242.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:17] penguinboy: ok, then not the bug I saw [02:17] quickbrownfox: could you recheck, if the ISO you downloaded is ok? [02:17] i verified the cd in the advanced installer [02:18] and checksummed the iso when i downloaded it [02:18] all good [02:18] penguinboy: http://madwifi.sourceforge.net/ - if my information about the WLAN chip is correct [02:19] quickbrownfox: did you try to install more than one time? [02:19] thanks Kail! [02:19] maybe it was just some "wrong bit at the wrong place" situation? ;) [02:19] penguinboy: http://tuxmobil.org/ibm.html [02:20] there are around 40 howtos for the R40, maybe some of them help :) [02:21] wonderful! [02:21] thanks [02:21] KaiL_: yes i did but after the second it messed up my partition table so i fixed that and deleted my linux partitions completely, then tried reinstalling [02:21] and broke both times at the same place? [02:22] yes === _drake [~drake@c-67-164-146-242.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:22] between the installations i resized some other partitions, so it probably didn't even use the same part of the hard disk [02:23] very strange, as there's nothing special done... [02:24] well i'm almost ready to label it as "one of those things" and wait till the next version and hope it doesn't happen again [02:24] like i'm doing with fedora === rexykik [~knoppix@c-24-11-144-126.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:24] fc4 should be out today according to the schedule. i don't know if it's on schedule or not [02:24] what is the command to make an ext3 filesystem? [02:24] mkfs.ext3 [02:25] any switches? [02:25] many, but mostly the default is ok === fasolla19 [~fasolla19@202.146.250.36] has joined #kubuntu [02:25] quickbrownfox: maybe you can find another computer to test the CD? :) [02:25] would it be mkfs.ext3 /dev/hda1 or /dev/hda [02:26] ? [02:26] [02:26] we are apt of borg - rpm is futile - you will be dpkg'ed [02:26] === fasolla19 [~fasolla19@202.146.250.36] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [02:27] there's another computer in the house but it's not really for fucking about with. i might try normal ubuntu and see if it's any different... though i prefer kde [02:27] lol (and this html bug sucks) [02:28] quickbrownfox: you can install kde on ubuntu, if nothing else helps - just install kubuntu-desktop [02:28] if that works i'll stick kde on top [02:28] but for now maybe i'll just revise for my exams =] [02:28] thanks for trying kail. goodnight [02:29] rexykik: /dev/hda1 most likely === monchy [~monchy@S010600e04c400007.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:36] Hey Hey Monchy! [02:36] hey penguinboy [02:37] us ubuntu archive still fubar hey? [02:38] i think so === apollo2011 [~apollo201@69.37.224.99.adsl.snet.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:40] damn, wanted to get the codecs [02:40] monchy, just switch to http://archive.ubuntu.com [02:40] monchy, I think they've turned auth off for now, so it should work if you really want to use US === _mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:46] seth, archive was messing up as well :( [02:46] and yes i did update after changing my sources ;p === _mae is now known as mae === delltony [~delltony@c-24-99-11-118.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:48] anyone here mind helping me get transcode installed so i can use dvd::rip? === incubii [~incubii@61.68.51.101] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === liz4rd [~liz4rd@static24-72-76-248.regina.accesscomm.ca] has joined #kubuntu [02:58] does any one have a good repo list? [03:00] I am trying to install Powermated for my Griffin Powermate, and when I compile it, I get this error: http://sial.org/pbot/10997 [03:02] liz4rd: for? [03:02] hey apollo2011 you ever messed with transcode? [03:02] no [03:02] try DVD Shrink under Wine [03:03] dang anyone besides me wanna convert my dvds to xvid [03:03] i figure 3 dvds on one dvd is better tahn 1 :) [03:03] transcode is also in the nerim.net repository [03:03] as dvdrip [03:03] i have dvd::rip installed [03:03] the gui that is [03:04] but its bitchin about transcode not being installed [03:04] deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main [03:04] apollo2011: for apt... [03:04] ubuntu mirrors? [03:04] ok hang on [03:04] yeah === Chameleon22 [~Chameleon@60-240-237-137-vic-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [03:05] liz4rd: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Archive [03:06] and you said transcode is relabled as dvdrip on that repository? [03:06] no, but both are in the repository === _smt is now known as sashmit [03:07] so apt-get install transcode? [03:07] ijuz - I wouldnt recommend marillat, it breaks more things than fixes in ubuntu [03:07] i keep getting dependency errors on transcode is why i was asking [03:08] talking about libavcodec [03:08] and i tried to install that but its no found anywhere === _root [~root@stjh1-3027.nb.aliant.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:13] damn i give up i can' get this thing to install for crap === jkeel [~joshua@kmc-ras1-p31.intrstar.net] has joined #kubuntu === Tm_TK_ [travolta@a84-230-29-156.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #kubuntu === spine55 [~spine@69.15.212.218] has joined #kubuntu [03:41] Can anyone point me to a howto upgrade the ipw2200 driver to the latest version? === grandpapriz [~grandpapr@rhhe30-32.2wcm.comporium.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:42] you can grab the latest version from http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/pool/contrib/i/ipw2200/ipw2200-source_1.0.4-1_all.deb [03:42] then you'll need to install build-essential, linux-headers-$(uname -r), and module-assistant [03:42] then you can install ipw2200-source_1.0.4-1_all.deb [03:43] thanks crimsum [03:43] crimsun [03:43] hey crimsun you had any luck with transcode by chance? [03:44] or something that will allow me to convert vobcopied dvds to xvids [03:44] transcode doesn't build in sbuild due to missing build-dependencies in multiverse [03:44] i have a bunch of dvds i bought that id like to put on a single dvd === robert [~robert@69.17.194.99] has joined #kubuntu [03:44] you may be able to find it in ubp [03:44] any suggestions? [03:45] you can either ask someone to backport it (if it's not already), or you can build it yourself [03:46] well i downloaded he source and all but the configure screws me cause its wants the libavicodec.h or something like that [03:46] from ffmeg and i have installed ffmeg but i guess not the dev files i don't know its fustrating === _robert_ [~robert@69.17.194.99] has joined #kubuntu === robert [~robert@69.17.194.99] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === Tm_TK_ is now known as Tm_TK === ..[topic/#kubuntu:seth_k] : http://www.kubuntu.org/~amu/kubuntu-5.04.2-i386-live.iso | Congratulations to motaboy on membership | KDE 3.4.1: deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary-updates main | Unofficial Kubuntu FAQ http://kudos.berlios.de/ | Wiki Transition Tuesday [03:48] apparently us mirror back up to par === lmoretti [~lmoretti@CPE-65-26-218-197.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:49] configure: error: FFmpeg (libavcodec) required, but cannot compile ffmpeg/avcodec.h === jkeel [~joshua@kmc-ras1-p31.intrstar.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [03:49] seth_k, you mean still broken? [03:49] Mez, no. Fixed. See #ubuntu [03:50] crimsun changed topic there [03:51] Hi- New install- trying to install packages, using apt-get install, but I keep getting MD5Sum mismatches. (repository us.archive.ubuntu.com) [03:51] us.archive should be fixed [03:51] lmoretti, do an apt-get update === FireEgl [Ariel@Atlantica.DNIP.Net] has joined #Kubuntu [03:52] seth_k - still no go. [03:53] failed MD5s on libpango1.0-0_1.8.1-0ubuntu2_i386.deb, libgnomecanvas2-0_2.10.0-0ubuntu1_i386.deb, libcairo1_0.3.0-1_i386.deb [03:54] I'm trying to install firefox. [03:54] hmm. Maybe you have bad downloaded versions of those? cd /var/cache/apt/archives and then sudo rm the three packages, then try apt-get again? [03:56] they arn't there. [03:57] exact error "Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/pango1.0/libpango1.0-0_1.8.1-0ubuntu2_i386.deb MD5Sum mismatch" [03:59] seth_k, sudo apt-get clean is sager :D [03:59] safer * [04:00] Mez, why clean the whole thing when he/she might need the other packages later? Just remove the failed ones. But they aren't even there :D [04:01] cause clean is always saer [04:01] safer * [04:01] okay lmoretti, sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list and change all http://us.archive to http://archive [04:01] e.g. remove the us [04:03] ok, did that, running an update. [04:03] sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list [04:03] what a useful command [04:04] sed's on my list to learn one of these days. [04:04] ok, looks like that cleared up my problems. [04:04] sudo sed -e 's/us.a/a/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list is shorter :D [04:04] :P [04:04] thanks! === ..[topic/#kubuntu:Mez] : http://www.kubuntu.org/~amu/kubuntu-5.04.2-i386-live.iso | Congratulations to motaboy on membership | KDE 3.4.1: deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary-updates main | Unofficial Kubuntu FAQ http://kudos.berlios.de/ | Wiki Transition Tuesday | We are experiencing problems with the US and CA Mirros. === mode/#kubuntu [+o Mez] by ChanServ === mode/#kubuntu [+t] by Mez === mode/#kubuntu [-o Mez] by Mez [04:05] you can't spell === mode/#kubuntu [+o Mez] by ChanServ === ..[topic/#kubuntu:Mez] : http://www.kubuntu.org/~amu/kubuntu-5.04.2-i386-live.iso | Congratulations to motaboy on membership | KDE 3.4.1: deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary-updates main | Unofficial Kubuntu FAQ http://kudos.berlios.de/ | Wiki Transition Tuesday | Use archive.ubuntu.com if us.archive.ubuntu.com gives md5sum errors | sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list === mode/#kubuntu [-o Mez] by Mez === ecarroll [~ecarroll@tx-67-77-73-152.dyn.sprint-hsd.net] has joined #kubuntu === erniee [~spine@69.15.212.218] has joined #kubuntu === EnRRaLaO [~ubuntu@212.106.240.142.adsl.jazztel.es] has joined #kubuntu === monchy [~monchy@S010600e04c400007.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:15] does anyone have the same issue as me, when I lock the screen and live the machine like that for a while it logs me out!!! === Shuddertrix [Andrew@user-0cdv20s.cable.mindspring.com] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === dakz [dakz@HSE-Montreal-ppp140884.sympatico.ca] has joined #Kubuntu [04:24] Like, fully locks you out? === dakz [dakz@HSE-Montreal-ppp140884.sympatico.ca] has left #Kubuntu [] [04:28] hey were now in the top 20 with ubuntu [04:28] ?? monchy? [04:29] on distrowatch === Octane [~octane@dsl092-100-149.nyc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:30] ah [04:30] weird thinking of kubutnu as a distro [04:30] don't think it should be on there? [04:31] no i just find it weird thinking of it as seperate from ubuntu [04:32] wonder what'll happen if theres a Xubuntu (XFCE) [04:33] it gets distributed separately, it's a distro [04:34] there's lots of knoppix one-offs out there too that are nothing but remasters [04:39] blasted cd-rom === Kamping_Kaiser [~kaiser@ppp242-195.lns2.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:40] wish it would just die already instead of teasing me [04:41] hey Kamping_Kaiser === Mez goes and gets a shotgun for monchy [04:41] i'll throw it into the air, you shoot [04:41] PULL === monchy throws cd-r into the air [04:43] arvo mez [04:43] wanna test out k3b in breezy Kamping_Kaiser ? [04:44] i cant get KDE to download :S [04:44] otherwise yet [04:44] *yes [04:44] ah fair enough :D [04:44] lol [04:44] I just builkt k3b :D [04:44] whee [04:44] theres a new version? [04:45] :) nerd [04:46] nah [04:46] well, [04:46] yes there is [04:46] it's just k3b didnt work in breezy before [04:47] have any of you guys ever used blank kodak cd-rs before? [04:48] *downloads kde* [04:48] gl Kamping_Kaiser [04:49] Kubuntu-desktop isnt coming down, because i don't have k3b adn oo.o2-KDE, but KDE will === Echo_Mage [~neliss83@c-66-177-216-202.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:50] Yello all [04:51] Wow its awful quiet in here === Echo_Mage [~neliss83@c-66-177-216-202.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [04:51] heh [04:53] ffs i hate those people [04:53] lol [04:53] I kinda like [04:53] clowns === Jeezis00 [~roger@jeezis.user] has joined #kubuntu [04:54] hi tm_t [04:55] does anyone have the same issue as me, when I lock the screen and live the machine like that for a while it logs me out!!! === Jeezis00 is now known as Jeezis [04:55] thats a feature isnt it? [04:56] hmm [04:56] Chameleon22: log out? [04:56] Chameleon22: you mean it ask your password? [04:57] Tm_T: no, it logs me out, as in it shows login screen [04:57] ah [04:57] ye === incubii [~incubii@61.68.51.101] has joined #kubuntu === flag [~psn@59.95.2.23] has joined #kubuntu === bryan [~bryan@c-24-16-129-214.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === bryan [~bryan@c-24-16-129-214.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === bryan [~bryan@c-24-16-129-214.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:25] how do you pronounce kubuntu: "koo-buntu" or "kay-ubuntu"??? [05:25] koo-buntu [05:25] whew!!! thanks... i just won the bet :) [05:25] koo-buntu - i do any way [05:26] koo boon too [05:26] i think the kubuntu home page should have the pronounciation like the ubuntu site does [05:26] koo boon too or koo bun too? [05:26] i say k' buntu [05:27] when i look an some sites with firefox, the fonts appear to be to small, but when i look at the same site with IE or Konqueror fonts seem ok, is there way to fix this problem? [05:28] seth_k imo the first way [05:28] grood [05:28] food time === sife [~sife@69.15.212.218] has joined #kubuntu [05:31] ^ [05:33] is small fonts the only problem? [05:35] Kamping_Kaiser: ye seems like that [05:36] but interested why its like that only in firefx and other browsers look fine [05:36] nfi [05:36] but font size is an option === sproingie [~chuck@64-121-15-14.c3-0.sfrn-ubr8.sfrn.ca.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu === Octane [~octane@dsl092-100-149.nyc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has left #kubuntu [] === ijuz_ [~ijuz@p54AB8F14.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === thoreauputic [~prospero@wolax8-248.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === monchy [~monchy@S010600e04c400007.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu === gethoht [~anon@69.145.117.206] has joined #kubuntu === gethoht [~anon@69.145.117.206] has joined #kubuntu [06:13] hello everyone [06:17] hi [06:17] i've been checking out kubuntu, after a long time away from linux [06:18] it's been a nice re-introduction [06:18] i'm having a problem installing firefox though [06:20] when i do an apt-get install firefox... i get a "failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/pango1.0/libpango1.0-0_1.8.1-0ubuntu2_i386.deb MD5Sum mismatch [06:21] i also get that md5 error with libgnomecanvas2-0_2.10.0-0ubuntul)i386.deb === pobstil [~luke@218-101-70-232.dialup.clear.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu [06:21] getholt, take it off the US mirrors [06:21] edit /etc/apt/sources.list? [06:21] yes [06:21] remove the "us." bit [06:23] should I comment out the security servers? [06:24] are there any gameboy emulators for linux? === Kamping_Kaiser is now known as Kaiser_essen === seth_k [~seth@24-117-104-21.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:29] still get the Md5 sum error, now with a "W: Couldn't stat source package list error [06:29] it looks like it's still trying to pull it from the us servers [06:29] i even put uk.archive.ubuntu.com in the sources.list [06:30] hrmm [06:30] gethoht: did you do an apt-get update? [06:31] nope.. let me try that [06:31] ok done with the update [06:31] same prob [06:32] http://pastebin.ca <-- paste sources.list for me? [06:33] there's no such thing as uk.archive [06:33] it's called gb.archive [06:33] iirc [06:34] i tried it in the web browser first and it came up [06:35] its pastebin.ca/14217 [06:35] i think i might have been editing the wrong one [06:35] the wrong entry i mean... i was editing the entries at the bottom of sources.list === Octane [~octane@dsl092-100-149.nyc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:38] i tried taking the us. out of all the entries and i got a dependencies error [06:39] like it didn't want to automatically install all the dependencies for mozilla-firefox === mae [~mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #kubuntu === dewey [~dewey@c-67-168-51-149.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:41] i haven [06:41] err [06:45] just run the command in /topic [06:45] sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list [06:45] :) [06:47] i think that did it [06:47] :) [06:48] so it was just taking the us out of the sources.list then huh? [06:48] yep, and apt-get update [06:48] us/ca mirror is b0rked [06:48] ah ok [06:48] that sucks [06:49] thanks :) now i can finally not use windows for anything ) [06:49] :) [06:49] :D [06:51] thanks again :) I appreciate it [06:51] i searched the ubuntuforums.org, google, linuxquestions.org and couldn't find a solution [06:53] does kynaptic use the /etc/apt/sources.list file as well? === Kaiser_essen is now known as Kamping_Kaiser [06:55] gethoht: yep, just another interface to apt [06:55] what's a good mp3 player for linux? [06:56] for KDE, AmaroK, hands-down [06:56] or XMMS if you must, but imo AmaroK > all [06:56] i was using bmp on slackware [06:57] it was very winamp-like [06:57] yes, bmp is a lot like winamp [06:57] i liked it alot, it even had a equalizer built into it [06:57] AmaroK is a lot like iTunes [06:58] so whichever makes you happy :) [06:58] bmp is available in synaptic as well [06:58] beep-media-player i believe it is called [06:58] yes it is [07:00] I'm waiting for amaroK, et als. to get iTunes sharing support [07:00] That way I can play my family's playlists from my laptop [07:00] and it should be even more interesting at college === monchy [~monchy@S010600e04c400007.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:02] Juk is the best KDE player anyway [07:04] hrmm [07:04] hm, can't eject cd [07:05] eject not working, eh? [07:05] CD busy? [07:05] story of my life with this cd-r lol [07:05] not sure if it's the blanks i'm using or not [07:06] CD drives are fickle [07:06] ever used kodak cd-r's nmorse? [07:07] No, I use imation CD-R's [07:07] Cheaper [07:07] About 5 cents a CD-R sometimes [07:07] these weren't too bad, 24$ for 50 [07:08] Makes coasters easy to forget about [07:08] CDN mind you [07:08] So, like $5 American? === BROKEN_LADDER [~pral@h-68-164-186-228.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #KUBUNTU [07:08] Sorry, had to take a jibe [07:08] har har :p [07:08] I like Canadian stuff [07:08] It's way cheaper, I buy stuff every time I go there [07:08] it's weird though, i've got a few CD-RW and they work fine, non-kodak [07:09] Some CD-RW drives are more fickle than others about the types of dye the CD-R's use [07:09] aha [07:09] What color is the bottom of the CD? [07:10] damn synaptic is nice [07:10] green [07:10] What color are the other ones you use? [07:10] kynaptic is still a little buggy [07:10] 1 sec [07:10] Kynaptic's easier to use, Synaptic has more power [07:10] they look the same [07:11] Real men use apt, or aptitude, or the really brave use dselect [07:11] :) [07:11] monchy: I guess they use a different dye with the same coloration [07:11] Sometimes you can tell visually, other times you can't [07:11] Trial and error is the only foolproof method ever invented [07:12] well guess i'll buy a new cd-rom during the week [07:12] if they still don't read then a new burner [07:12] BTW, what's with the wiki transition in the topic? [07:12] and if they still don't read i'll throw the f'n things out the window >< [07:14] man, dadgum storm cuts off my dadgum internet for 45 seconds at a time [07:14] I missed everything for almost a minute [07:14] thunderstorm? :D [07:16] So does anyone know what the wiki transition in the topic refers to? [07:16] Yeah, thunderstorm [07:16] ah i miss those [07:16] Thank god my laptop and UPS protect me [07:16] But not my internet [07:16] What, you live in Alaska? [07:16] Oh, Canada [07:16] british columbia [07:17] So near Alaska and Washington? [07:17] live about 4 hours away from the border [07:17] I have a friend from Alaska [07:17] He heard thunder for the first time in his life 2 years ago when he moved to Oklahoma [07:17] He's an Alaskan native [07:17] As in Indian [07:17] ooh [07:18] Quite funny, he jumped like he thought he was being shot at, so I hear === duende [~duende@stjhnf01bb8-142162169036.nl.aliant.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:18] lol, wonder if that's what the native-americans think around here [07:19] Take them somewhere where there's thunder sometime [07:19] It'll be worth the trip [07:19] well they don't really like people here so that'd be hard ;p [07:19] Ah, yeah, you're near the territory they got to themselves, eh? === ds9bsd [~ds9@ASt-Lambert-102-1-1-188.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [07:20] oh yeah, theres even a special tax on property [07:20] But you get Red Rose Tea, so no complaints [07:20] lol [07:20] That's the best tea anywhere [07:20] I love that stuff [07:20] luckily i won't have to put up with it for long [07:20] My family has it imported [07:20] Why not? [07:21] planning to move back east around xmas time/new years [07:21] going to be a cop [07:21] East, as in towards Ontario? [07:21] yeah, my home! :) [07:22] Are you the one who always tells me Quebec isn't Canada? [07:22] no, but i agree with whoever says that [07:22] separtist bastards [07:22] Heh, I like Quebec [07:22] But I also speak French [07:22] and enjoy French food [07:22] i'd like to see how long they last alone lol === liz4rd [~liz4rd@static24-72-76-248.regina.accesscomm.ca] has joined #kubuntu [07:23] If it wasn't for the Quebecois' food I'd let them fall of the Earth [07:23] and the women [07:23] and the women [07:23] lol [07:23] Does most of Canada have legal marijuana like Quebec? [07:23] we don't [07:23] BC does pretty much, not sure about the rest of the country [07:24] OMG! it's leage in qubec???? [07:24] Ah, just remembering some stoners on the Quebec Fort wall [07:24] wtf no way [07:24] i know there are blunt bros cafes in vancouver === liz4rd lives in saskatchewan === thoreauputic [~prospero@wolax7-168.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [07:24] Saskatchewan? [07:24] he's a prarie boy lol [07:24] yes [07:24] That sucks [07:24] That's like Calgary [07:24] OMG no you didnt [07:24] :P [07:24] lol [07:25] ouch [07:25] I love Canada [07:25] me to ^_^ *hugs canada* [07:25] More bitter rivalries than the States could ever have [07:25] and we have the hottest weman [07:25] But yeah, Quebec has legal weed and the women can (and do) go topless [07:26] SWEET [07:26] nice [07:26] try Montmorency Falls and the Fort Park [07:26] lol [07:26] i think liz4rd is gonna have good dreams tonight @_@ [07:26] went there with a high school group, of all people [07:27] Quite funny to see the teacher's reaction [07:27] and she's taking them back next summer [07:27] http://pastebin.ca/14222 how do i get rid of that when i ssh to my self from somewhere [07:27] how is the healthcare system in canada? any downsides? because i've heard not too many bad things [07:27] (pastebin.com is down) [07:27] it's free [07:27] yeah [07:27] all free [07:27] can't complain there lol [07:27] its the best man [07:27] taxed, not free [07:27] oh well [07:28] oh, and mp3's are legal here [07:28] Is it actually a good system [07:28] low taxes shitty gov't :P [07:28] I heard about the mp3's [07:28] if I mount an ntfs drive in linux, is there any options I should put in the /etc/fstab? [07:28] Taxes on CD-R's [07:28] we pay a tiny levy on blank cd's [07:28] yep [07:28] http://pastebin.ca/14222 how do i get rid of that when i ssh to my self from somewhere [07:28] worth it though [07:28] Just smuggle them across the border on foot [07:28] nice to not have to worry about the RIAA hunting you down [07:28] I could emigrate to Canada without running into one border patrol guy [07:29] I actually went through Immigrations once, on the aforementioned Quebec trip (forgot my ID) [07:29] brb need to test this cd [07:29] Great country [07:29] when I went up to montreal a couple summers ago, i got no hassle on the way into canada [07:29] acully just say you came for the cows the nstart mooooing and you'll get in free [07:29] coming back into the states, they hassled the fuck out of me [07:29] Only in Calgary and Saskatchewan [07:29] like cavity searchy? [07:29] asked me if I had beef, and tobacco, and alcohol... and of course drugs [07:29] Coming into the states is much harder [07:29] no no... not that bad [07:30] Like, I Fed-Ex'ed my ID to myself [07:30] searched the bike though [07:30] Bah, neither US or Canada search cars [07:30] They ask if you have a gun [07:30] You say yes, they take it [07:30] You say no, they leave it with you [07:30] They melt them down too, not auction them like here in the states [07:30] america is paranoid schizophrenic compared to canada [07:31] if nations had psychological disorders [07:31] Schizophrenic, not so much [07:31] More like Dissociative Identity Disorder [07:31] With associated paranoia [07:32] The deliberation's what kills you [07:32] i'm sick of the bullshit politics of the states [07:32] A bureacracy is a dysfunctional mind [07:32] stupid wars, corporate welfare [07:32] I'm debating what to do after college in 4 years [07:32] Hawaii or Canada [07:33] Or the People's Republic of Nathan [07:33] Set it up on a remote tropical island === monchy [~monchy@S010600e04c400007.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu === monchy throws cd-rs out window [07:34] Wow [07:34] that bad, eh? [07:34] urge to kill rising [07:34] haha [07:34] i want to know what friggin dye these use [07:34] Kodak dye probably [07:35] Doubt they use an industry standard, why would they? [07:35] Formazan [07:35] kodak japan ltd dammit [07:36] This should teach you: never buy name-brand [07:36] Welcome to Soviet Russia [07:36] back to no-names lol [07:36] I always use the cheapest ones [07:36] which always worked 110% for me before [07:36] Never feel bad about a coaster, rarely make one [07:37] They'd be cheaper if you smuggled them in from the U.S. [07:37] I'm sure I could set up a trade route from Buffalo [07:37] lol [07:37] No supporting the RIAA that way either [07:38] Big conversion vans full of illegal CD-R's [07:38] :P [07:38] I can see it now: me the head of the biggest CD smuggling group in the world [07:38] Be quite funny if I got caught [07:38] yes names: "THe rerightables" [07:38] What would they do? [07:38] oops [07:38] rewriteables* [07:39] No, think of an acronym for CD-RW [07:39] something that would explain all the CD's adequately to Border Patrol [07:39] oh god...i'm drawing a blank [07:39] Same here === _smt [~sashmit@user-1120vip.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu === shogouki [~nicolas@AMontpellier-251-1-72-2.w83-201.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [07:40] Something involving DJ's maybe === spiral [~spiral@lafilaire-4-82-224-249-43.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:40] or maybe just CD-R [07:41] :P yeah [07:41] Need an R word [07:41] Any Canadian stuff that starts with R? [07:41] uh..... [07:41] rice [07:41] no [07:42] We could go the Quebec route and make the W stand for weed [07:42] rrrrr (like a growle) [07:42] :P lmao [07:42] Then we can explain the conversion van too [07:42] :P [07:42] Crazy DJ's on Rural Weed [07:42] There we go [07:42] i'm glad all this stuff gets logged, it'll make a good story one day :p [07:42] OMG l337 [07:42] Indeed, this needs to be selectively bashed [07:42] :P [07:43] I like to look at my old Jabber logs [07:44] Some of the conversations there have gone wild and all over the place [07:44] Even more so than these ones [07:44] jabber all you use? [07:44] Yeah, nmorse@jabber.org [07:44] Some AIM, some Yahoo, some MSN, sometimes [07:44] do you use gaim for all that? [07:45] nah [07:45] psi for jabber [07:45] Yeah, though its jabber functionality bugs me [07:45] amsn for msn [07:45] I don't like Psi much either [07:45] havnt used AIM of yahoo for awhile [07:45] poor poor kopete lol [07:45] Kopete's interface sucks [07:45] yeah [07:45] it could be good [07:45] WE NEED TEXT BASSED MSN!!! [07:45] The Open Usability guys probably died of heart attacks looking at it [07:45] no tabbed messaging though is a big no no [07:46] lol i agree [07:46] Text based MSN, like curphoo is for Yahoo? [07:46] Shouldn't be too hard to write [07:46] yeah [07:46] Use gaim's libmsn or libgaim or whatever and write a Python text interface to it [07:47] Or use centericq [07:47] Which is like Gaim for the CLI [07:49] voila, I'm on MSN in Konsole [07:51] blah i think i have to start using firefox [07:51] Why? [07:51] i miss ad-block [07:51] That's one thing Konqueror definitely needs [07:51] coming in 3.5 [07:51] Excellent, then I'll probably switch over almost completely === froud [~sean@ndn-165-131-32.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu [07:52] Won't that version also include optional Gecko rendering? [07:52] dev on 3.5 is supposed to wrap up june 30th, so should have it soon [07:52] lol http://www.stud.ntnu.no/~shane/stasj/pics/humor/div/527.html [07:52] If it has the Gecko rendering option, I'll never need another browser again [07:53] not sure on the optional gecko rendering, guys in #kde might know [07:54] oh i know the next version of konq has already passed the acid2 test [07:55] That's good, it'll be the first to be released that does that [07:55] so it's coming along at least [07:56] The guys in #kde say the gecko rendering hasn't had work done on it since last summer [07:57] ouch, that's a damn shame [07:57] what is acid2? [07:57] SPAM! http://datapirate.ath.cx/4um/viewtopic.php?t=5 [07:58] mrmanic: to quote the webstandards site; Acid2 is a test page, written to help browser vendors ensure proper support for web standards in their products. [07:59] oh nice. [07:59] It checks if they break properly [07:59] safari is the only other browser i know of that's passed it [07:59] time for me to go [07:59] OmniWeb or whatever that odd Mac browser is [08:00] Cabsomething maybe? [08:00] camino? [08:00] Anyway, time for me to go [08:00] No [08:00] oh ok [08:00] The ugly third-party browser [08:00] lol === nmorse is now known as nmorse_away [08:00] later nmorse === haffe [~haffe@ua-83-227-198-253.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu === haffe [~haffe@ua-83-227-198-253.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [08:02] should help me start up that forum [08:02] http://datapirate.ath.cx [08:03] i would let someone moderate one [08:03] you pay for that space? [08:03] [08:04] yeah [08:04] 40 gigs of space [08:04] :D [08:04] nice [08:04] a friend hooked it up [08:04] i just dont know how to get known === Ghetek [~Ghetek@c-24-7-51-170.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:04] throw it in your part/quit message [08:04] yeah [08:05] how do i do that? [08:05] :P [08:05] mounting iso files in the console? [08:05] do you use konversation liz4rd [08:05] irssi [08:05] k then i don't know lol === ztonzy [~ztonzy@ztonzy.artist.blender] has joined #kubuntu [08:05] hold on i'll jump on it [08:05] is it "$mount my iso file please" or "$mount my iso file pretty please"? === liz4rd [~liz4rd@static24-72-76-248.regina.accesscomm.ca] has joined #kubuntu [08:06] settings > identities > advanced [08:06] there now i am [08:06] Ghetek: http://www.freebsddiary.org/iso-mount.php [08:06] thanks === Ghetek [~Ghetek@c-24-7-51-170.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu ["bye] [08:07] alright done [08:07] monchy: would you help start it up? ...liek any ideas suggestions? [08:08] i'd like too, but when it comes to linux stuff i'm an idiot lol [08:08] me too [08:08] :P [08:08] but i know i have alot of stuff i could share [08:09] i want it to be more of a casual place tho :P [08:09] make a customization section for gnome & kde, i know people like that sorta stuff === buz [~buz@80-218-107-8.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #kubuntu [08:10] ok [08:10] hah PS3 will run linux [08:10] nice [08:10] :P [08:11] too bad it'll probably be like 499 cdn >< [08:11] with 1 stinkin controller and a demo disc [08:14] monchy: go look now [08:14] http://datapirate.ath.cx [08:14] should i move the catagory up ? [08:14] to catch teh eye? [08:14] :P [08:14] yeah [08:15] k done [08:15] yeah that's better [08:16] is that the aero glass theme btw? [08:16] um one moment [08:16] daj_glass [08:16] nice hey [08:16] yeah looks good [08:17] easy on the eyes [08:17] yeah [08:17] would you post there? [08:17] :P [08:18] the main question === penguinz [~david@c-24-18-74-154.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:18] probably not, only because i really don't post on any forums [08:19] if i need want to talk there are people on freenode :p [08:19] er -need === xxenon [~xxenon@81.13.238.141] has joined #kubuntu [08:20] ok i understand ya [08:20] i'm not a forum person my self :P [08:20] soon there will be a kick ass website [08:21] i'll keep it bookmarked though and i can lurk from time to time lol [08:21] ok that be cool [08:21] you know what [08:21] i should just enter a bunch of room and leave :P [08:21] lol [08:21] fedora,suse [08:21] konversation [08:22] there [08:22] they are all hyped over in fedora for tomorrow [08:22] why [08:23] core 4 releases tomorrow [08:23] cool [08:23] i guess [08:23] it's like if breezy came out for us :p [08:23] :P === kkathman [~kkathman@h-69-3-74-243.dllatx37.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #kubuntu === markc [~admin@220.245.107.188] has joined #kubuntu [08:39] what is the "proper" way to update the nvidia driver package after a kernel package update to 2.6.12 ? [08:40] all I can find is -> apt-get install nvidia-glx [08:40] and I can't see what that has got to do with the actual driver === liz4rd [~liz4rd@static24-72-76-248.regina.accesscomm.ca] has joined #kubuntu === incubii [~incubii@61.68.51.101] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === incubii [~incubii@61.68.51.101] has joined #kubuntu === lymz [~lymz@ip68-109-142-201.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === opi [~emil@oppeln-bronikowski.int.pl] has joined #kubuntu === sife [~sife@adsl-065-012-191-021.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu === rodolfo [~rodolfo@213.215.176.98] has joined #kubuntu === lymz [~lymz@ip68-109-142-201.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === BurgerMann [~burgerman@0x3e42a174.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu [09:31] Hi, does KDE have anything similar to MS Macros? [09:31] whats MS Macros [09:31] XD [09:32] It's basically a recording of mouse and keyboard actions [09:32] oooooooooooooooooooo [09:32] no clue [09:33] oki :} [09:35] i like your name tho === diktatorn [~diktatorn@c-6e8471d5.04-2012-73746f6.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu [09:35] ^_^ [09:36] lol [09:38] why cant i copy text form konqueror and past i to de konsole? :/ [09:38] do you have a wheel on your mouse? [09:38] do you still have konqueror open? === closure [~ubel@adsl-065-013-010-009.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:50] hi guys [09:50] OMG HI [09:50] :P [09:50] lol [09:51] >8-) [09:51] man its boring here [09:51] *cricket noises* [09:51] lol [09:51] yeah i'm bored as piss myself [09:51] what time is it there [09:53] 4am [09:55] lol its 2 am here [09:56] nothing to (F WORD) to do around here at this time [09:57] where you at? === rodolfo [~rodolfo@213.215.176.98] has joined #kubuntu === ikypakis [t9@195.245.229.17] has joined #Kubuntu [10:04] godamn backports [10:04] oh wait [10:04] it's working today [10:05] holy jesus [10:05] The following packages will be upgraded: [10:05] acroread acroread-plugins clamav clamav-base clamav-freshclam dcoprss [10:05] foomatic-db-hpijs foomatic-filters-ppds gaim-guifications gnome-menus hpijs [10:05] kdenetwork kdenetwork-filesharing kdenetwork-kfile-plugins knetworkconf [10:05] knewsticker kopete kpf kppp krdc krfb kwifimanager libclamav1 libgcc1 [10:05] libgnome-menu0 libnspr4 libnss3 librss1 libsmbclient [10:05] linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 mozilla-browser mozilla-psm python-xdg [10:05] python2.4-samba samba-common smbclient sun-j2sdk1.5 xchat xchat-common [10:05] 39 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. [10:05] Need to get 163MB of archives. [10:05] that's intense [10:05] thats a flood [10:06] kamping go jump on a razor blade and tell someone who cares [10:06] hi, after the boot this morning, the screen fonts were suddenly very big; the screen resolution did not change ... [10:07] how could that be? [10:07] not sure [10:07] is it everywhere? [10:07] yes [10:07] or just in one app [10:07] every app [10:07] no clue [10:07] change it back [10:07] the font-size? [10:08] yeah [10:08] strange is that the value in the set-up did not change [10:08] that's very weird [10:08] did it change the display when you adjusted it? [10:09] in the set up that is [10:09] I tried a smaller font, and it changed [10:09] *shrugs* [10:09] computers do strange shit sometimes [10:10] but to get to the original size, I have to set a very small value! [10:10] i blame the matrix [10:10] and the agents [10:10] it happened before with another distro [10:10] maybe its a graphics display driver problem [10:11] I tried to reconfigure xserver-xorg, but nothing [10:11] what screen resolution do you use? === efiloN [~erki@125.246.216.81.nykop.siwnet.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:13] brb === rodolfo [~rodolfo@213.215.176.98] has left #kubuntu ["Tschss!"] === incubii [~incubii@61.68.51.101] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === rodolfo [~rodolfo@213.215.176.98] has joined #kubuntu === FireEgl [Ariel@2002:4411:949d:0:2:0:0:1] has joined #Kubuntu === pointwood [~pointwood@212.242.222.232] has joined #kubuntu === SlicerDicer- [~Slicer@c-67-160-114-35.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:30] what should I add in sources.list to install "lame"? [10:33] multiverse [10:34] rodolfo, i think i use 1240x680 or whatever === flag [~psn@59.95.3.84] has joined #kubuntu [10:38] http://sourceforge.net/projects/ninan/ [10:39] that says it's a "web application" [10:39] does that mean it would run in my web browser? [10:39] Kamping_Kaiser: where do I find the lines to add? [10:39] http://www.ubuntuguides.org/#extrarepositories [10:39] just a minute [10:39] ^ yeh [10:39] rodolfo, that address [10:42] thanks [10:43] :( Unknown host === golan [~golan@host228-84.pool8173.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu === MoreFX [~christian@p50889BFA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === tibal [~tibal@aki.tibal.info] has joined #kubuntu === mindframe [~mindframe@ip24-254-49-107.br.br.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:51] http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories [10:51] rodolfo, sorry no s [10:58] closure, ok === _duende [~duende@stjh1-0731.nl.aliant.net] has joined #kubuntu === HnZeKtO [~fuckyou@85.137.66.147] has joined #kubuntu === lymz [~lymz@ip68-109-142-201.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === mindspin [~mindspin@p54B2C1A7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === incubii [~incubii@61.68.51.101] has joined #kubuntu [11:21] hi, after uptading to kde 3.4.1 I'm experiencing frequently crashes of firefox and gxine. Any idea ? [11:21] updating [11:26] firefox i've always had problems with [11:26] and why are you running gxine? [11:27] I like it and both worked pretty good before [11:27] i mean why not use xine? [11:28] no idea, vdeo is not that important for me but the firefox crashes are really annoying [11:29] yeah [11:29] i switched from firefox to opera [11:29] I love firefox === webmind_ is now known as webmind [11:29] it's hard to set up but once it gets up it's far more stable and uses far less resources [11:29] still have no multimedia in mine thoguh [11:30] but then again i don't like multimedia in linux as i have yet to find any controls === incubii [~incubii@61.68.50.146] has joined #kubuntu === tibal [~tibal@aki.tibal.info] has joined #kubuntu === nxv_ [~nxv_@dsl-084-056-109-181.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu [~ubuntu@211.157.209.206] has joined #kubuntu [11:44] kubuntu VS. knoppix? [11:45] knoppix is mostly live cd whereas kubuntu is preferably installed [11:45] knoppix can be installed but keeps breaking when you upgrade it [11:46] I installed it, but it didn't not work on my pc with 2 video cards.. === Cellar|bbl [~CellarDoo@d220-238-219-95.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au] has left #kubuntu [""Righteousness] [11:47] yes, knoppix's init script have some problems when i upgraded kernel to 2.6.11 [11:48] Gentoo is great :) [11:49] buz, are u from mongo? [11:49] ??? [11:49] no [11:49] Chinese? [11:50] switzerland [11:50] oh, good place :) === hussam [~hussam@194.126.31.19] has joined #kubuntu [11:53] I'm from Beijing, China, i think you're from Mongolia from ur name :) [11:54] hey, I just rebuild synaptic 0.57 and installed it on Hoary. But I didn't find and change from 0.55, is there a site for synaptic where I can find a changelog [12:04] hussam: hmm, google might help :/ [12:04] http://www.nongnu.org/synaptic/ [12:09] ok thanks :) [12:10] I built firefox linux installer from cvs 1.0.x branch today. [12:11] the build process took almost 70 minutes. === aoeuid [~rastafari@c-6a94e055.168-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu === aoeuid [~rastafari@c-6a94e055.168-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has left #kubuntu [] === incubii [~incubii@61.68.50.146] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === JensK [~JensK@p54907E35.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === Mystery [~ilia@203-59-86-171.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [12:35] hello? [12:36] hi [12:36] i just installed kubuntu, just to check it out, so far i like it but i have a couple of issues [12:37] firstly, for some reason konqueror is duplicating every file in my folders [12:38] for example [12:38] Mystery, I had the issue before too, just reload the dir [12:38] and it will be gone [12:38] there's two downloads, two music folder, two of everything [12:38] but I am using Gnome these days [12:38] Mystery, yes...try to reload with CTRL+R or so [12:39] but it is strange [12:39] oook [12:39] worked [12:39] wierd :S [12:39] :) [12:39] but it shouldn't happen [12:39] yer [12:39] maybe cus i have gnome installed aswell? [12:39] or something [12:39] anyway [12:40] ztonzy: do you know what the button to show the toolbar is? for example blender is fullscreen, in gnome i press alt+F10 and the bar jumps up [12:40] but here it's different [12:41] Mystery, dunno, can't remember, I removed KDE from system [12:41] does anyone here know? === Mystery looks around [12:43] ah well === Mystery [~ilia@203-59-86-171.dyn.iinet.net.au] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] === Mystery [~ilia@203-59-86-171.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [01:11] i have a small problem [01:11] after i logged out and back in again [01:11] the time dissapeared somewhere o.O [01:11] time/date dissapeared [01:12] hmm, FreeCraft seems to be ok game [01:12] can anyone help? === Kamping_Kaiser [~kaiser@ppp242-195.lns2.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #kubuntu === brosio [~brosio@host218-64.pool80181.interbusiness.it] has left #kubuntu ["Sto] [01:22] Mystery - right click the panel, [01:22] then add to panel [01:22] applet [01:22] clock [01:23] i looked [01:23] no clock [01:23] it's gone [01:23] O.O [01:24] i looked everywhere for the clock [01:27] something tells me it has turned into "applet 249" [01:27] and when i try to click it, it says it's broken [01:28] says [01:28] "applet could not be loaded. check your installation" [01:28] :S === neko [~neko@samhain.plus.com] has joined #kubuntu === Goshawk [~vincenzo@host34-121.pool8249.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu === mikl [~mikkel@mikl.active.supporter.pdpc] has joined #kubuntu === duende_ [~duende@stjhnf01bb8-142162180240.nl.aliant.net] has joined #kubuntu === duende_ [~duende@stjhnf01bb8-142162180240.nl.aliant.net] has joined #kubuntu === Mystery [~ilia@203-59-86-171.dyn.iinet.net.au] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] [01:53] hmm, how do I start udev with correct permissions? "sudo /etc/init.d/udev start" sets wrong group (root) on some devices (tty* among others), which causes some programs (xterm) to stop working... 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[05:23] How would one turn off files going to Trash. I would prefer to just have them deleted. [05:23] morning :) [05:25] food [05:25] foodcoman: shift-delete [05:25] foodcoman, you can press shift+del [05:25] The KUDOS FAQ has some tips on showing and hiding the icon! [05:25] foodcoman, that's what i do [05:25] Riddell: closure: That works for me. [05:25] Thanks. [05:25] Now that is reliable information...... 2 for 1! =) [05:25] oooh Riddell he thanked me! [05:26] lol j'k [05:26] I will let you guys fight over it! ;-) === DaveQB [~david@168.6.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [05:28] Joke: Which is it? Shift + delete or Shift - delete. Why did they have 3 keys. Seems like Shift Delete would be easier. [05:28] I have a hard time getting to 3 keys. [05:28] Joking. === airox [~airox@airox.user] has joined #kubuntu [05:29] Hi! [05:29] When I login into KDE (with kdm) I get a background of (in my case) Kubuntu. Right after that it loads my own selected background. Is there a way to alter the background that is between kdm and my own ?? [05:29] foodcoman, it's like yoga you train your fingers to do things other people's can't [05:30] Hahaha... === _buz [~buz@80-218-107-8.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #kubuntu [05:32] airox: Control Center > System Administration > Login Manager > Background should control that background [05:37] tnx, let me check it out :) [05:38] works perfectly! [05:38] tnx again seth_k ! [05:40] :) [05:40] glad i could help you === pv_ [~pv@jt11-57-1.tky.hut.fi] has joined #kubuntu === gentonix [~toni@poirot.yok.utu.fi] has joined #kubuntu === activelow [~jradford@dialup-4.159.173.164.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has joined #kubuntu === froud [~sean@ndn-165-131-32.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu === activelow [~jradford@dialup-4.159.173.164.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has joined #kubuntu === monchy [~monchy@S010600e04c400007.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu === slicslak [~slicslak@S0106000f66e13f97.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu === jeramy [~jeramy@ottawa-hs-206-191-28-29.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #kubuntu === slicslak [~slicslak@S0106000f66e13f97.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu === activelow [~jradford@dialup-4.159.173.164.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === kalenedrael [~kalene@c-24-218-137-85.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === Shachaf [~Shachaf@c66-235-25-227.sea2.cablespeed.com] has joined #kubuntu [06:33] ok, i need yacc and it's not in the apt repos [06:34] do you actually need yacc? [06:34] or just a yacc-like tool? === philipacamaniac [~phliipaca@208-47-135-198.dia.cust.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu === JensK [~JensK@p549061B2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === gnumdk [~gnumdk@ANantes-252-1-49-122.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [06:39] ok, i fixed it [06:39] got bison and flex [06:40] yeah, so [06:41] rebooting === shogouki [~nicolas@AMontpellier-251-1-56-231.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu === __Ace__ [~love@h55l211.delphi.afb.lu.se] has joined #kubuntu === kalenedrael [~kalene@c-24-218-137-85.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === Wimpie [~u19809@cable-62-205-105-243.upc.chello.be] has joined #kubuntu [07:04] hi all, anybody has some nice KUBUNTU CD labels ? === d8rt [~chatzilla@cderr3.simons-rock.edu] has joined #kubuntu [07:05] no [07:06] shouldn't be hard to make your own though [07:06] I remember seeing some on kde-look [07:06] any idea where ? [07:06] looking... [07:08] I present to you: http://process-of-elimination.net/?q=kubuntu_cd_labels_svg_and_png === douglas [~douglas@dpc6745164251.direcpc.com] has joined #kubuntu [07:08] Has anyone played hl2 in kubuntu here, and if so what optimizations can I make to make it run better? [07:08] O_o [07:09] philipacamaniac : thx === pepin [~yann@gabuzomeu.ath.cx] has joined #kubuntu === dewey [~dewey@c-67-168-51-149.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === SquishyWaffle [~GTaylor@130-127-67-44.lehotsky.clemson.edu] has joined #kubuntu === SquishyWaffle [~GTaylor@130-127-67-44.lehotsky.clemson.edu] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] === edulix [~edulix@80.103.125.57] has joined #kubuntu === gnumdk_ [~gnumdk@ANantes-252-1-13-72.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu === edulix [~edulix@80.103.125.57] has joined #kubuntu [07:17] hey [07:17] the cursor movement sometimes (when CPU is doing something) is not smooth. how can I fix that ? === tuni_ [~tuni@AFontenayssB-151-1-27-79.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [07:18] I have an ATI with open source drivers === nxv_ [~nxv_@checkpoint-out.gate.uni-erlangen.de] has joined #kubuntu === slow-motion [~Slow-Moti@p548DE6BD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:19] hello [07:19] hi ! === ubuntu [~ubuntu@dra38-2-82-233-104-186.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:26] hello [07:26] somebody can help me ? [07:27] what's the root passwd on the live-cd of kubuntu ?? [07:27] there isn't one [07:27] use sudo to do root activities [07:28] when i do : su : it wants a psswd [07:28] try "sudo -i" [07:29] yes [07:29] thx ! === heart [~heart@p549C3ABB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === popey [~popey@80.46.101.238] has joined #kubuntu === gnumdk [~gnumdk@ANantes-252-1-63-136.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu === regeya [~shane@adsl-sp3-cdale176.micgi.com] has joined #kubuntu === SquishyWaffle [~GTaylor@130-127-67-44.lehotsky.clemson.edu] has joined #kubuntu === SquishyWaffle [~GTaylor@130-127-67-44.lehotsky.clemson.edu] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] === _pablo [~pablo@85.55.2.242] has joined #kubuntu [07:35] so [07:36] <_pablo> hola [07:36] ubuntu is like, a somewhat fixed debian [07:36] <_pablo> hola [07:36] and kubuntu is a somewhat fixed debian with a decent gui [07:36] <_pablo> hello [07:36] aloh [07:36] a [07:36] <_pablo> mi na,e is pablo [07:36] <_pablo> my name is pablo [07:36] <_pablo> and we? [07:36] my name is pablo [07:37] <_pablo> ok bery match [07:37] hey Xorg is using here 792mb of ram. wtf? [07:37] <_pablo> ee [07:37] that is a lot of ram [07:37] edulix: mappings, most likely [07:37] well it's virtual ram, swap [07:38] <_pablo> I'am Ispanish [07:38] but I haven't got much more remaining [07:38] soy espaol tb pablo :) [07:38] <_pablo> yo tambien [07:38] there is some small tool to analyse what the memory footprint of X contains [07:38] <_pablo> cuatos aos tiebes [07:38] but i forgot the name ;) [07:38] <_pablo> ? [07:39] <_pablo> eeeooo [07:39] pablo: esto no es un canal de ligue xD. tengo 18 just for the record [07:39] Mi nombre es Pablo, y voy a matarle [07:39] <_pablo> por que? [07:39] poptix: yeah paranoia hehe [07:40] Usted toc a mi madre de una manera impura [07:40] <_pablo> ninigfif [07:40] <_pablo> gfbgdsb [07:40] <_pablo> dfssd [07:40] <_pablo> dsg [07:40] <_pablo> s [07:40] <_pablo> gdf [07:40] <_pablo> dffs [07:40] <_pablo> dfs [07:40] <_pablo> s [07:40] <_pablo> dg [07:40] <_pablo> sd [07:40] <_pablo> g [07:40] <_pablo> dg [07:40] <_pablo> ds === poptix stabs _pablo [07:40] <_pablo> ds [07:40] <_pablo> sd [07:40] wtf? [07:40] <_pablo> sd [07:40] <_pablo> sd [07:40] <_pablo> s [07:40] _pablo: please stop that. [07:40] <_pablo> dg [07:41] <_pablo> g [07:41] <_pablo> d [07:41] <_pablo> s [07:41] <_pablo> d [07:41] <_pablo> s [07:41] <_pablo> sd [07:41] <_pablo> df [07:41] someone please kick him [07:41] <_pablo> s [07:41] oh man, what I wouldn't give for chanops [07:41] <_pablo> sdf [07:41] <_pablo> s [07:41] <_pablo> gf [07:41] <_pablo> df [07:41] <_pablo> fg [07:41] <_pablo> df [07:41] <_pablo> df [07:41] <_pablo> f [07:41] <_pablo> g [07:41] <_pablo> fds [07:41] <_pablo> sd [07:41] pablo: madura un poco anda [07:41] <_pablo> df [07:41] <_pablo> df [07:41] <_pablo> f [07:41] <_pablo> f [07:41] <_pablo> f [07:41] <_pablo> bdf [07:41] <_pablo> f [07:41] <_pablo> gb [07:41] we don't have any ops [07:41] <_pablo> g [07:41] <_pablo> g [07:41] incidentally, #kubuntu-es is available for spanish-speaking kubuntu users [07:42] <_pablo> bf [07:42] <_pablo> d [07:42] <_pablo> df [07:42] <_pablo> d [07:42] <_pablo> bok [07:42] <_pablo> ok [07:42] <_pablo> vdfv [07:42] <_pablo> [07:42] <_pablo> v [07:42] <_pablo> fg [07:42] it's empty, though. [07:42] <_pablo> gf [07:42] <_pablo> bf [07:42] <_pablo> fd === mode/#kubuntu [+o Riddell] by ChanServ [07:42] <_pablo> df [07:42] <_pablo> df === mode/#kubuntu [+b *!*pablo@85.55.2.*] by Riddell === _pablo was kicked off #kubuntu by Riddell (Riddell) [07:42] nice [07:42] Riddell: you're a rockstar [07:42] Hurray! Three cheers for Riddell [07:43] hmmm... I've got a problem with kmail : for some e-mails I receive, I've got strange characters like [] instead of accents & so on in the preview mail, but not if I open the mail [07:43] does anyone here have any idea ? [07:43] what was that? [07:43] I suspected, hidden chanops in the channel are ! [07:43] :) [07:44] a bot, I think [07:44] spiral: your preview font is different than your view font [07:44] philipacamaniac: a bot or some dude with WAY too much free time. === shie [~shie@bzq-218-13-27.cablep.bezeqint.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:44] poptix: hmmmm, maybe... do you know where I should change this setting ? [07:45] mrmanic: I went to #kubuntu-es - empty but with a topic so yes, it exists :) [07:45] spiral: somewhere in the prefs i'm sure. [07:45] wtf [07:45] i don't think many mexicans have money, let alone reliable power, for a computer === shie [~shie@bzq-218-13-27.cablep.bezeqint.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [07:45] and the ones that do, probably speak english. [07:46] philippacamaniac: perhaps someone has adapted spamassesin to IRC ?! hehe [07:46] poptix: isn't it rather a problem with utf8 & so on ? [07:46] spiral: yes, the preview font probably isn't utf8 [07:47] poptix: he was mexican ? [07:47] poptix: i don't find anything specific regarding fonts in the conf [07:47] edulix: shrug, he was speaking spanish =P [07:47] close enough for me (a dumb white american) [07:47] "don't think mexicans have money" - way to spread the Ubuntu spirit... ignore the fact that a huge percentage of Americans are Hispanic [07:48] apparently he's actually spanish [07:48] poptix: blah, I'm a dumb white spanish :P [07:48] (from spain) [07:48] philipacamaniac: no, a large percentage of people in the USA are hispanic [07:48] they aren't americans. [07:49] you have to be a citizen for that. [07:49] that's debatable, but since I'm a WASP, I won't say anything :) [07:50] i have no idea what that is, but it sounds like a racial slur =P [07:50] they are hiding in the usa with their ubunut boxes? [07:50] that remains me the last operation of spanish goverment: to give papers (citienship) to people working here so that noone treats them like shit.. [07:50] White Anglo Saxon Protestant (American) - The most hated person on the planet, maybe... [07:51] philipacamaniac: ah, joy. [07:51] I'm just playing, dude === buz_ [~buz@80-218-107-8.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #kubuntu [07:51] people can whine about stereotypes all they want, but they exist for a reason =P [07:52] philipacamaniac: well there a lot of chinese people in this world. whoever they hate will be the most hated person in the world, stadistically [07:52] i think the chinese hate taiwan =P [07:52] edulix: I like your train of thought... that's quite rational === goo [~oo@gp2.fronter.com] has joined #kubuntu [07:52] maybe the british for colonizing them [07:53] hello. How can I get the kde-bluetooth package on ubuntu? [07:53] And I'm pretty sure they hate me [07:53] I can't find out :( [07:53] philipacamaniac: hehehe ;-) [07:53] well now it's time to study a bit, see you later! [07:54] goo: try to use kynaptic (or synaptic) to locate the package. search for common words like bluetooth. [07:54] goo: It has't been uploaded to Universe yet, but the testing package is here http://dev.kubuntu.org.uk/~motaboy/ubuntu/ [07:55] Has anyone installed the IVTV drivers and Mythtv? === _buz_ [~buz@80-218-107-8.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #kubuntu [07:55] edulix: I tried... no cigar [07:55] I have a Hauppage PVR-350 I want to get working under Kubuntu! [07:55] philipacamaniac: Nice! [07:55] philipacamaniac: thanks a lot! [07:56] MythTV seems easy enough with Multiverse and apt... [07:56] goo: There are a few problems (package-related, mostly). Read the comments here: http://ubuntu.com/wiki/MOTUNewPackages === opi [~emil@oppeln-bronikowski.int.pl] has joined #kubuntu === _buz_ is now known as buz [08:01] philipacamaniac: argh. How do I add that repo to my sources.list? deb http://dev.kubuntu.org.uk/~motaboy/ubuntu hoary ./ doesn't do the trick? === douglas [~douglas@dpc6745164251.direcpc.com] has joined #kubuntu [08:02] don't add it to your sources.list - it is an experimental package, and a developer's personal repo. Browse to it in your web browser and download the package (it is a .deb file). [08:02] ah. ok. [08:02] thanks [08:03] Where in kubuntu can I find a place to add options for agp cards (nvidia) so I can force 8x, fastwrite, and some other things. I read online that /etc/modules.conf is standard, but it's not there in kubuntu? [08:03] goo: remove the hoary [08:03] deb http://dev.kubuntu.org.uk/~motaboy/ubuntu ./ === mode/#kubuntu [-o Riddell] by ChanServ === slow-motion [~Slow-Moti@p548DE6BD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:05] douglas - graphics card options are set in /etc/X11/xorg.conf [08:05] oh, thanks [08:08] philipacamaniac: Where would I use what they are saying on this page ? ---> http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=60 [08:08] Heh. "Bluetooth is listed, but is unselectable when I try to add a new bluetooth device.. [08:08] err, a new obex device [08:12] goo: it is an experimental package at this point in time - you can attempt to compile from source yourself [08:14] philipacamaniac: It was the same problem in Gentoo 4 months ago - either kdebluetooth is f*cked or I have to go and read some manuals all over again... :( [08:14] kdebluetooth itself is still in beta [08:14] I haven't personally tried it, so I can't say either way [08:15] douglas: perhaps those options go in /etc/modprobe.conf ? [08:16] douglas: scratch that, it is obsolete, I think I found the place === pascalfr92 [~miamiam_l@cha92-7-82-230-174-61.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:17] douglas: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=165361&postcount=2 [08:27] sorry, I've been reading myself, I'll check it out. [08:29] will I have to restart my box to test this you think? [08:30] hmm, probably... === mrmanic is now known as mrm4n1c === mrm4n1c is now known as mrmanic === pepin [~yann@gabuzomeu.ath.cx] has joined #kubuntu === bisley [~bisley@85.57.0.103] has joined #kubuntu === ikypakis [t23@195.245.229.17] has joined #Kubuntu === sirukin [~sirukin@64.247.151.242] has joined #kubuntu === _duende [~duende@stjhnf01bb8-142162165203.nl.aliant.net] has joined #kubuntu === seppo [~seppo@dsl-tregw3ne54f85e91.dial.inet.fi] has joined #kubuntu === glDaher [~daher@81.10.119.154] has joined #kubuntu === glDaher [~daher@81.10.119.154] has left #kubuntu [] === ikypakis [t20@195.245.229.17] has joined #Kubuntu === d8rt [~chatzilla@64.209.122.78] has joined #kubuntu === Cellar|bbl [~CellarDoo@d220-238-219-95.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === mikl [~mikkel@mikl.active.supporter.pdpc] has joined #kubuntu === Cellar|bbl [~CellarDoo@d220-238-219-95.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au] has left #kubuntu [""Righteousness] === liz4rd [~liz4rd@static24-72-76-248.regina.accesscomm.ca] has joined #kubuntu === tibal [~tibal@aki.tibal.info] has joined #kubuntu === _chris [~chris@12-216-145-145.client.mchsi.com] has joined #kubuntu [09:31] <_chris> is Kweather broken in Hoary? === orla [~orla@50C57424.flatrate.dk] has joined #kubuntu === prevod1 [prevod@P1-225-20009.dialup.ns.ac.yu] has joined #kubuntu === tibal [~tibal@aki.tibal.info] has joined #kubuntu === froud [~sean@ndn-165-146-74.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu === heart [~heart@p549C3ABB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [09:39] _chris: you just have to poke it a few times [09:40] I added a weather station or two, closed it, re-opened it === prevod1 [prevod@P1-225-20009.dialup.ns.ac.yu] has joined #kubuntu [09:40] maybe try "dcop KWeatherService WeatherService updateAll" [09:40] deleted the "Unknown Weather Station" a few times... [09:40] and now it works. :) [09:41] philipacamaniac: I'd try that, but mine works now, and I don't want to touch it. ;) === prevod1 is now known as prevod === nmorse_away is now known as nmorse [09:50] <_chris> kweather keeps adding a 0000 station. - no matter how many times i delete it comes back === jjesse [~jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu === eric_p [~eric@par69-3-82-224-162-2.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:58] hi, i need some help with kubuntu... [09:58] i certainly did a mistake and now, when i enter my user name and password in kdm, kde won't start (kdm restarts) [09:58] an idea ? [09:58] i only installed a webcam driver recently, and i don't see any relation... === _buz [~buz@80-218-107-8.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #kubuntu [10:08] eric_p: that's pretty bad. === Jeezis [~roger@jeezis.user] has joined #kubuntu [10:08] eric_p: can you log in via the console? [10:08] yes [10:08] the problem is to launch an x session [10:08] eric_p: did the webcam driver install modify your xorg.conf? [10:09] i think that it doesn't modidy it [10:09] but i'm not sure: i used a script (quickcam.sh) which was in the driver source package [10:10] eric_p: check ls -la /etc/X11 [10:10] and see what the modification date on your xorg.conf is [10:10] is there a way to launch kde without kdm, or to repair kdm ? [10:11] I don't know about kdm [10:11] you might investigate dpkg-reconfigure [10:12] mrmanic: good idea to check the date of the file, thanks. (i can't tell you the answer for now for i had to boot another partition) [10:12] mrmanic: I will try to investigate dpkg-reconfigure too [10:12] another option is to move your .kde directory to .kdebak or something temporarily [10:13] in case something in your .kde dir is causing the issue. [10:13] oh [10:13] de [10:13] der [10:13] and check the x logs [10:13] ok, i will try. but i fear the problem is not "user-related" [10:13] in /var/log/, I think [10:13] i already checked the kdm log and the xorg log [10:13] nothing bad [10:13] no dice? [10:13] weird [10:14] only a few errors with font paths, but i think they already existed before === kjalil [~kjalil@kjaleel.plus.com] has joined #kubuntu [10:17] can anyone point me to some docs that give guidelines regarding the resource allocations on an X-Server for each X-Terminal connected by XDMCP? [10:17] application dependent === ikypakis [t29@195.245.229.17] has joined #Kubuntu [10:18] yes [10:18] KDM [10:18] and budget dependent [10:19] i would go for at least 100 MB/user [10:19] just need rules of thumb [10:19] use case is an Internet cafe [10:19] mrmanic: thank you very much for your help ! I will reboot into kubuntu and try the hints you gave me. It's a pity I have only one computer so i can't chat during the time I do tests [10:20] eric_p: you could chat with a console chat app like ircii. [10:20] customers come and go nver know what PC they will get on next visit === kjalil [~kjalil@kjaleel.plus.com] has joined #kubuntu [10:21] ijuz_: 100 MB RAM or Virtual Memory === fase [~fase@p54AE18B9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [10:21] froud: 100 MB should be enough, perhaps even a bit less, try it out [10:21] yes, good idea... [10:21] ijuz_: so 10 users = 1GB RAM? === eric_p [~eric@par69-3-82-224-162-2.fbx.proxad.net] has left #kubuntu [] [10:22] yeah, sounds resonable [10:23] hm, well, if budget is a problem, you could try first with 512, but i have doubts, depends on how many webpages opened etc. [10:23] ijuz_: does the server itself not need ram of its own? [10:24] so min 256 for the server and 100 per session [10:24] froud: a bit, the question is your budget, the smaller it is, so more you can try, i would just stick in 2 GB and forget it [10:25] froud: really hard to say, when you allready have a server running, open several connections to it, use some Xnest on another system [10:25] OK, and stick the normal swap guidelines? [10:25] A couple of Gigs, dual Opterons and you can run about 30 thin clients [10:25] There's an article around here somewhere on it [10:25] Using PXEboot [10:25] Hmmm that's a good ratio [10:26] nmorse: url [10:26] Hang on [10:26] It was about running a school lab on it [10:26] yeah kinda need the same setup [10:26] froud: bigger swap doesn't harm, just do it at least double the size [10:27] i thought i read something on it in linux journal or something? [10:27] bout running a school lab or something? [10:27] yeah I been googling and have null [10:27] That's a different article, but it might be useful === arthurb [~arthurb@mar92-5-82-225-146-12.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:27] http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7418 is the one jjesse was talking about [10:28] anyone have ideas about a crm/billing software for a Linux-based Internet Cafe? [10:28] nmorse: thanks [10:28] froud: you could also search for skolelinux [10:29] Billing software, like to set a time to use it [10:29] yes customer buy time and spend it in units [10:29] hmm, I know you can set it up for limited amounts of time [10:30] But then you'd need to write a GUI program so they can select their account and how many units [10:30] I tought there was a sofware called Open-Caffe [10:30] and probably a system tray device to tell them how much time they have left [10:30] Never heard of Open-Caffe [10:30] nmorse: I wonder if such a solution exists [10:31] Probably does [10:31] I wonder if there's a linux channel on freenode here that does that stuff [10:31] what whoul dyou google for? [10:32] What are you using to do this, distro-wise? [10:32] Linux Terminal Server Project, maybe? [10:32] look on freshmeat, surely somebody had this problem [10:33] yeah I considered using ltsp [10:33] but anyway, when you worry about resources and can't put the money for a fast server on the table, you should get thin clients instead of xterminals [10:33] IBM made a bunch of PXE-bootable PII systems [10:34] You can buy them by the truckload [10:34] Maybe $30 a piece sometimes [10:34] Then just have them boot off of the server, and instant systems with no local hard drives [10:34] A 450 mHz PII will run KDE, et als. just fine if you put 256 MB RAM in it [10:34] that's the best way [10:35] where do i have to write "numlockx" in so that it will be started on every boot? [10:35] ok dudes, thanks for everyting. must go bed now, sleeep needed [10:36] froud: the problem is that when a webbrowser blows up it affects other uses probably [10:37] ijuz_: I also have a copy of this http://learnlinux.tsf.org.za/courses/web-tuxlabs.html but its a bit more complicated that I want and expensive [10:37] laters === froud [~sean@ndn-165-146-74.telkomadsl.co.za] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === eric_p [~Eric@par69-3-82-224-162-2.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === __P__3 [~princoscr@host-84-220-138-130.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #kubuntu [10:44] mrmanic: i tried all your advices but nothing worked :( [10:45] eric_p: well that's terrible. [10:45] eric_p: I'm pretty much out of ideas [10:45] even with a new user, impossible to launch kde [10:45] eric_p: do you have gdm installed? [10:45] my xorg.conf has not been modified [10:45] no, i havent gnome... [10:45] I see. [10:46] maybe i could try to apt-get install it... === duende [~duende@stjhnf01bb8-142162165203.nl.aliant.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:46] that's an option [10:46] another option would be to see if you have xdm installed [10:46] and try setting that as the default login manager [10:47] xdm: command not found [10:48] eric_p: so you'd have to apt-get that too [10:48] or instead [10:48] I don't know what dependencies gdm has. [10:48] so I'd prefer to install xdm rather than gdm, if I were running a pure kde system. === othernoob [~othernoob@p54A2C765.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === efiloN [~erki@125.246.216.81.nykop.siwnet.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:50] hey, when i click on storage media and get to media:/ in konqueror, nothing shows up. this never happened before. [10:50] othernoob: is kded running? [10:50] mrmanic: i think i found my problem... [10:51] eric_p: what is it? [10:51] i'm so stupid [10:51] i installed gdm [10:51] mrmanic how do i find out [10:51] othernoob: ps -A | grep kded [10:52] i llaunched it, i tried to log in and i got an error message: can't write in the authorization file, or no space free on disk [10:52] i am transferring my files through sftp and the transfer speed is 1.1 MB/s where as it should be around 10 then i start multiple transfers and all are giving me 1.1 MB/s simultaneously so i guess there is some setting that is throttelling that speed [10:52] i tried df and... 0% free [10:52] ah [10:52] can some body tell me if there is a setting (default) in kubuntu [10:52] that'll do it. [10:52] eric_p: see if you can free up some space :) [10:52] mrmanic, yea its running [10:53] what is strange is that i could download the about 10 mo of gdm... [10:53] eric_p: is your /home on a different partition from your /? [10:53] no [10:53] only swp is on another partition [10:53] I have no idea, then. [10:54] othernoob: I'm not sure how to debug this. I ran into it once before, and it was b/c kded died [10:54] othernoob: apparently that's not your problem [10:54] ok, i'll free some space and i will retry, thank you for everything [10:54] mrmanic: i haven't rebooted yet, because i'm dling something, but its the first time it happened :/ [10:55] np. I hope that was your only problem. [10:55] not a big prob at the moment, but a bit annoying [10:55] othernoob: you could always try killing and restarting kded. I don't _THINK_ that would affect your downloads. (no guarantees, of course) [10:57] mrmanic: i just copied everything i needed via konsole. i'll see if it's a permanent problem tomorrow :) but thanks, ill keep that in mind [10:57] ok === golanx [~golan@host228-84.pool8173.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu === ruhib [~ruhib@wnpgmb06dc1-46-67.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #kubuntu === HnZeKtO [~fuckyou@85.137.66.147] has left #kubuntu [] === judax [~judax@ppp-69-148-18-161.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:19] what do i have to install so that i have java enabled in firefox? [11:20] see http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre [11:22] in which repos. is "sun-j2re1.5"? === kman___ [~kman@p5.pub.ro] has joined #kubuntu [11:23] get "E: Konnte Paket sun-j2re1.5 nicht finden" === furtivefelon [~jason@CPE0004e2b67ac1-CM0012253e40d8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu [11:27] I use http://ubuntujava.yimports.com/ === ikypakis [t8@195.245.229.17] has joined #Kubuntu === _heart [~heart@p549C3ABB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === KaiL|Sheep [KaiL@p548F7D02.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:32] <_chris> i caught the end of the sun jre conversation. what repository is that in? === nxv_ [~nxv_@dsl-084-056-104-054.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:34] mrmanic: i managed to launch kde :) [11:35] thank you for your advices [11:36] it was just a problem of disk space, (my disk is very very small) but apt-get clean was sufficient === eric_p [~Eric@par69-3-82-224-162-2.fbx.proxad.net] has left #kubuntu [] === hehed [~hehed@h24n1fls32o895.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu === _hehed [~hehed@h24n1fls32o895.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu === kjalil [~kjalil@kjaleel.plus.com] has joined #kubuntu === hehed [~hehed@h24n1fls32o895.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu === ruhib [~ruhib@wnpgmb06dc1-46-67.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #kubuntu === _stephan [~stephan@shuiser.xs4all.nl] has joined #kubuntu === kjalil [~kjalil@kjaleel.plus.com] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === kman___ [~kman@p5.pub.ro] has joined #kubuntu