=== henriquemaia [~henriquem@cb-217-129-175-205.netvisao.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Baby [~nena@baby.kavi.silver.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ajmitch [~ajmitch@port162-209.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel === wasabi [~wasabi@pcp04254344pcs.sntafe01.nm.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul [~chuck@CPE0006258ec6c2-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jordi [~jordi@115.Red-213-96-69.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pepsi [~pepsi@72-254-51-238.client.stsn.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jlj [~agp@cm-80.111.99.032.chello.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel === M123 [~M123@cm-81-9-136-81.telecable.es] has left #ubuntu-devel ["taluego"] === Unfrgiven [~ankur@202.76.176.94] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ironwolf [~ironwolf@c-24-6-169-124.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mpt [~mpt@203-167-186-66.dsl.clear.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:27] https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11758 [01:27] ? === zeedo [~zeedo@www.reboot-robot.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:30] if I read that error correctly, the folder must exist, not be removed [01:30] it already exists [01:30] which is required for pre-rm [01:30] there were 2 files in there that didnt make much sense [01:31] and like i said, rm'ing it made it work === trulux [~lorenzo@trulux.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:32] there I see only an error because the folder doesn't exist (in other words: after it got deleted)..?! [01:33] i dont understand... /var/lib/mozilla-firefox did indeed exist.. i was guessing that it was looking for something inside there [01:33] i could install again and investigate further === seth_k [~seth@24-117-104-21.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:33] find: /var/lib/mozilla-firefox/: No such file or directory < right [01:35] Kail_: known bug in findutils [01:35] if the folders an empty folder [01:35] no - sorry - just with a find command with multiple folders [01:35] it';s being fixed upstream [01:35] so the "error" is, that the folder is empty? [01:35] there were 2 files in it [01:36] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=313079 === zeedo [~zeedo@www.reboot-robot.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:37] hey, anyone here with accuess to amin ? if so cna they rebuild findutils - it's been fixed upstream [01:40] was filing the bug report the most appropriate thing to do? [01:41] i never know if problems i find are already known and being fixed or what.. you know? [01:41] I think so - would be great, if everybody would do and I don't only find "bugreports" on pro-linux.de, heise.de or golem.de ;) === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === wasabi [~wasabi@pcp04254344pcs.sntafe01.nm.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === winkle [~winkle@lgh3814234.vittran.norrnod.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lu|dinner is now known as luis_ === Owner [Owner@0-3pool240-131.nas1.sioux-city1.ia.us.da.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:21] lifeless: around? [02:24] mdz: would you mind probing libant1.6-java for main? [02:27] k3b needs rebuilding for breezy doesnt it? [02:30] Mez: do you fix it? [02:31] I've taken the current package for hoary and am repackaginfg for breezy [02:31] it seems to be building ok [02:31] in a breezy chroot [02:31] unless there was something else that needed doing previously [02:34] Mez, no, it doesn't [02:35] nothing else needs doing? just rebuilding? [02:35] well - well se eif it builds ok (IT's still buulding [02:35] if it does, wanna sponsor it? [02:36] http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/k/k3b/0.11.23-0ubuntu4/ [02:36] doko: it looks very good so far [02:36] no more kaffe or classpath [02:36] I'll post the complete output [02:36] yippie! [02:37] yeah i noticed doko ... lol - I'm not at that stage yet ... so i'll probably crash out :d [02:37] http://people.ubuntu.com/~mdz/temp/anastacia.txt [02:37] doko: if you can confirm that all of the java packages in that list are properly packaged, I can do the promotions now [02:40] my list is ant bcel cup jakarta-log4j1.2 javax-servletapi2.3 jlex jsch junit libbsf-java libcommons-logging-java libcommons-net-java libgnucrypto-java libgnuinet-java libgnujaf-java libgnujaxp-java libgnumail-java libjaxp1.2-java libjdepend-java libjessie-java liblogkit-java liboro-java libregexp-java libxalan2-java libxerces2-java libxml-commons-resolver1.1-java rhino xml-crimson [02:40] mdz: we did have a bug in ecj-bootstrap, infinity did build the fixed version in universe, needing libant1.6-java, so this is the only unclean package [02:41] but when we promote libant1.6-java to main, that's again a clean build. [02:41] lol [02:41] nah it just bombed [02:41] mdz: bcel, cup rhino seem to be unrelated [02:42] doko: bcel is a build-dep of libxalan2-java [02:42] rhino is a build-dep of bsf [02:42] cup is a build-dep of libxalan2-java [02:44] mdz: ok, I didn't touch these. wasabi did convert these to java-gcj-compat, they should be fine. [02:44] ok, as long as each of those has been looked over by you or wasabi [02:44] confirm? [02:45] wait, I'll look at the packages, that don't have a -ubuntuN suffix [02:47] so you guys build packages for breezy eh? [02:48] all your breezy are belong to us === GammaRay [~GammaRay@ppp-68-120-199-74.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:49] Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/r/rxvt-unicode/rxvt-unicode_5.3-1_i386.deb MD5Sum mismatch [02:49] bad file? [02:49] GammaRay, us archive = fault [02:49] use archive.ubuntu.com [02:50] mdz: looks fine, all packages touch by you, wasabi, or me. [02:52] Mez: thanks [02:54] doko: migrated to main [02:54] mdz: cool [02:54] anastacia output is much shorter now :-) [02:55] mdz: something else on the list: kde-i18n should not be demoted, as well as amd64-libs-dev, gcc will depend on it soon again to build i386 biarch [02:55] doko: please review the proposed demotions to universe at http://people.ubuntu.com/~mdz/temp/anastacia.txt and add them to supported if they are sane [02:56] heh [02:56] I will not move amd64-libs-dev or kde-i18n until things are settled [02:56] the -doc packages for the java stuff I just promoted should definitely be seeded [02:57] sure, let me do that tomorrow, I need some practice === Keybuk [~scott@descent.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:59] doko: ok, thanks for all your attention on the java packages [02:59] doko: perhaps some sleep is in order :-) [02:59] Keybuk: hello, you world-breaker you [02:59] yes, I won't start early tomorrow ;) [02:59] which world did I break this time? :p [03:00] and can I get "DESTROYER OF WORLDS" on my Business Cards? :p [03:00] Keybuk: dpkg is the new gtk bug [03:00] lol [03:00] all unresolved problems are delegated to you [03:00] Keybuk: it's shorter if you ask, which you didn't break ;) [03:00] not for the first time, I'm suddenly glad I don't work for you, mdz :p [03:01] wait, I thought you did Keybuk ? [03:01] Keybuk: you're glad to be part of the launchpad inferno? ;-) [03:01] not especially [03:01] Mez: nah, I'm not distro-team [03:01] the distro team is an oasis of joy [03:02] sorry - I got confused... someone once told me that mdz was the "big boss" for canonical [03:02] I _cause_ merge requests, I don't do them :p [03:02] I mean, here's doko working on packaging at about 3am because it's so much damn fun [03:02] Mez: he's the CTO of Ubuntu [03:02] Mez: Canonical does more than just Ubuntu [03:02] CTO? never heard that one before [03:02] yeah memdz, but someone told me you were the BIG like - boss of canonical - the CEO or whatever [03:03] Keybuk: is on the skunk works side of things [03:03] no, that'd be Mark Shuttleworth [03:03] mdz may be able to walk up walls (backwards), but hasn't yet made it to space ;P [03:03] ahuman01, someone told me it was matt zimmerman (and then told me that was mdz) [03:03] mdz: The same joy that leaves me hacking on initramfs on a Sunday evening. =) [03:03] emphasis on 'yet' [03:03] mdz: you have plans? [03:03] s/ahuman01/ah [03:04] I have dreams [03:04] I expect that within my lifetime it will become possible to do it for much less than it cost Mark and other early adopters ;-) [03:04] mdz - I feel sorry for them (the dreams) [03:05] hmm [03:05] btw, does anyone wanna liek - fix findutils? [03:05] just needs merging from debian :d [03:05] like * [03:05] it's the changes from debian which have triggered the chaos [03:05] yeah, and now they;'ve been fixed [03:05] ;) [03:06] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=313079 [03:06] at any rate, findutils in breezy is unmodified relative to Debian, so new versions in unstable will be brought in as a matter of course [03:06] it is experiencing a high rate of change at the moment [03:06] i think I'm getting stupider as I'm getting older. [03:06] *shrugs* well findutils broke the buildd.. now findutisl is fixed :D [03:06] wasabi: you're older than you've ever been, and now you're even older [03:06] and it;s also causing nearly EVERYTNg in breezy to break (according to what people tell me) [03:07] mdz, i just forgot 4 or 5 impotant things as you said that [03:07] wasabi: 7 +/- 2 [03:07] mdz: ya know, it's funny about the world breaking [03:07] So Java got promoted? [03:08] wasabi: yep [03:08] so, you know how dpkg 1.13 improves life a lot for the non-Linux people? [03:08] in theory oo.o2 is now buildable === wasabi saluts Java. [03:08] ...and build-depends on a package only available in Linux? :p [03:08] Keybuk: ask me how much I care about the non-Linux people with the schedule we're on ;-) [03:08] O Linux, thou art the way and the truth and the light [03:08] 18 months until the next release? :p [03:08] oh, wait, wrong hat [03:08] mdz: dude, hurd === Keybuk hunts for his Ubuntu one === mdz hands Keybuk a spare [03:09] mdz: it will be really good someday! === SloMo_ [~slomo@p5487F745.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Mez waits and sees if this k3b breezy build bombs out [03:09] tseng: and that is exactly the time when I will start to worry about it [03:09] heh, yep. [03:09] tseng: meanwhile, there are mono packages and deps which need review for promotion to main [03:10] mdz: Or at least as much as you worry about *bsd? =) [03:10] beagle deps primarily [03:10] yep they need some fixing up [03:10] mono 1.1.8 will have what i hope is the last fix [03:10] evolution-sharp, gecko-sharp, gecko-sharp2, gmime2.1, gtk-sharp, gtk-sharp2-unstable, gtksourceview-sharp2, pnet, treecc, xsp [03:10] lions and tigers and bears, oh my! [03:11] pnet, treecc? [03:11] I guess it wouldn't hurt for me to dedicate a week to go over EVERY java package and verify they are actually sane. [03:11] where did those come from :P [03:11] I get the feeling there is a lot of cruft in there [03:11] o pnet: pnet-interpreter [03:11] [Reverse-Depends: mono-mcs] [03:11] like that xerces deal [03:11] o treecc: treecc [03:11] [Reverse-Build-Depends: pnet] [03:11] ah thats an | deal [03:11] wasabi: the general idea is that we can do that as we need to move them into main [03:12] now that the entire ant dependency chain is in, that's a solid base [03:12] next week: eclipse! [03:12] Buh. [03:12] Don't remind me. Too much drama! [03:12] wasabi: the primary goal for java in main is OOo2 [03:12] surely we can get eclipse into main for breezy [03:12] Yeah we can. [03:12] What's the timeline though? [03:12] we'll add it to gnome-app-install and everything [03:12] 3.1, not 3.0.1 ... [03:12] Eclipse in multiverse right now is hacked to bits to be free. [03:12] say, feature freeze [03:13] I don't see pnet & its deps going into main soon [03:13] doko, I really need to go over man-di's packages. I think they just went thru a bit of NIH === wasabi supposed to be on vacation [03:14] tseng: it might be time to drop the pnet deps, as I doubt it can even run beagle [03:14] wasabi: fine, please don't upload before 4.0.1 is uploaded, which will badly break binary compatibility [03:14] ajmitch: doubt? [03:14] tseng: there might be a slim chance [03:14] ajmitch: i dont really need to thing about it :P [03:14] We're not native yet anyhow. [03:15] I have to put together an actual "plan" for doing that. [03:15] pnet 0.7.0 was just released, so there's still hope for it :) [03:15] And I suck at those. [03:15] wasabi: I know ;-) [03:15] Know about the plan or me sucking? :) [03:16] I don't know about the former ... [03:16] haha [03:16] I swear my attention span is nill. [03:16] This new job is beating the crap out of me too. [03:17] you have to make some time for the next Ubuntu meeting ... [03:19] hmm ... I think the problem with k3b is that the gcc compiler isn picking up an error that the previous version in hoary wasnt [03:19] This sucks too. I get home tomorrow at 10pm from my "vacation". [03:19] And go to work at 8 the next morning. [03:20] (do we actually care about supporting pnet?) [03:20] jdub: no, we pull it in from debian [03:20] jdub: where we pretend to support more than just mono [03:21] jdub: no, and we shouldn't care [03:22] btw where is herve [03:22] id like to have his permission to totally redo evo-sharp [03:22] it follows the "old" policies [03:23] riddell: ping [03:23] ar not herve, koke [03:30] moo [03:30] any c++ programmers here? [03:31] Mez: I am. [03:31] http://www.sourceguru.net/ubuntu/k3berrors [03:32] any idea what those top couple of errors mean? [03:32] thats whats making the k3b build bomb out [03:32] Mez: You're probably missing an include for a typedef or something. [03:33] the lines are [03:33] K3bMixedDataDoc( K3bMixedDoc* parent ); [03:33] and [03:33] Mez: Take the compile line, add -E -dD and change the -o to point to /tmp/foo or something. [03:33] class K3bMixedAudioDoc : public K3bAudioDo [03:33] jbailey - I've no idea how to find where it has the compile line :d [03:33] Mez: Then look in the file for the K3bMixedDoc declaration. [03:33] class K3bMixedDoc : public K3bDoc [03:34] It'll be the g++ line right about the build failre. [03:34] It's there... [03:34] on line [03:34] 49 [03:34] something possible to do with the order in which things are loaded in? [03:34] I knwo in ADa you havd to make anything that was referenced later on available before it was reference [03:35] Right, you need to declare things in C++ before use. [03:35] In C, too. =) [03:35] well it compiles ok under hoary :D [03:35] The Hoary C++ compiler was a little less picky about some things. [03:35] but so, I'd have to change that file round so that the k3bmixeddoc was before it [03:35] okies, well that seems to be the k3b problem [03:35] lets see if I change it if it bombs [03:36] I'll let you know [03:36] Cool. =) [03:37] but i guess it was caus ethe file tried to reference something later on in the file, not to start with eh? [03:37] schtoopid thing [03:37] now I bet you it bombs, but somewhere else :D [03:38] god it takes ages to build [03:38] ;p; [03:38] BOOYAH! initramfs boots with md software raid1 [03:39] Buh. === Mez crosses fingers and hopes this doesnt bomb [03:39] wasabi: Is that a good noise or a bad noise? [03:39] Bad. [03:39] I'm going over man-di's eclipse 3.1 packages === ikuyaLoqu [~ikuya@gnulinux.good-day.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:41] hell with this === mpt [~mpt@203-167-186-66.dsl.clear.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Amaranth [pamermor@0-1pool245-114.nas1.sioux-city1.ia.us.da.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robtaylor_ [~robtaylor@cpc1-cmbg5-4-0-cust129.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:51] mdz: Around? [03:52] w00t [03:52] k3b got past the bit it bombed at afore [03:52] Mez: Congrats. =) [03:53] :D === Mez hopes it doesnt bomb out completely now [03:55] jbailey - you a dev? [03:55] Mez: Yes. [03:55] wanna sponsor my apcakge itf it build properlY? [03:56] we don't sponsor packages, really [03:56] did you read the MOTU guidelines? [03:56] wanna sponsor my package if it builds properly? [03:56] is k3b in MOTU ? [03:56] universe * [03:56] k3b is in main [03:56] C++ uploads are restricted right now [03:56] oh, it's in main... [03:56] you're welcome to push your fixes as a unified diff [03:56] exactly, so i need a dev to sponsor the upload :D [03:57] doesn't work like that for main [03:57] we do source-only uploads. You only provide the diff, dsc, changes. [03:57] yeah i know crimsun [03:57] but someone has to sponsor it to upload [03:57] cause i dont have upload access :P [03:58] you send a diff to someone (probably riddell in this case) and he can merge it [03:58] yeah, jr or amu [03:58] ah fair enough - I'll send to riddell then seeing as he sponsored my last package i built for main === robitaille [~robitaill@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:01] hrm, what's a little java thing that is working at the moment that is worth playing with? :) [04:03] they say us.archive.ubuntu.com isn't fixed after all in #ubuntu [04:03] crimsun: ping === luis_ hands jdub a JDS CD [04:03] ;) [04:03] free java dude [04:03] lots of free java [04:03] Mez: pong [04:04] hrm, clearlooks went through the buildd poopchute quickly [04:04] us.archive = still b0rked :D [04:04] eruin: it's hit-or-miss [04:04] so it seems [04:04] jdub: 0.6.1 is out, btw [04:04] Amaranth: boh! [04:04] it says no such thing on the website! [04:05] and yet [04:05] there it is in the list [04:05] jdub: i get my info from the developer :) [04:05] jdub: you should know better than to trust strange websites [04:05] came out yesterday [04:05] Keybuk: haha === jdub churns out another one [04:06] how is xorg today? :P === eruin hides === Mez dances [04:07] and k3b builds properly [04:07] except for: dpkg-genchanges: warning: no utmp entry available and LOGNAME not defined; using uid of process (0) === jdub uploads 0.6.1 [04:13] Mez: Sounds like you're su'd into a chroot without doing su - [04:13] *shrugs* [04:13] i let pdebuild do it... [04:13] but [04:13] I've fixed k3b I think [04:14] Nice, congrats. [04:14] and i made it into a patch file too :D [04:15] though i did it with the lastest version form the web, not from the repos (.23 and i used .24 (uupdatE)) so am gonna rebuild and see if it works in .23 [04:16] zul: rt2500 has a fix for creating adhoc networks in cvs, kthxbye ;-) [04:16] zul: or rather create adhoc networks and you can find the fix in cvs. :-) [04:18] jbailey: yeah [04:18] jbailey: on the phone, though === scorpix_ [~scorpix@as17-45.qualitynet.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:27] meh [04:28] try: yield "" finally: ... [04:28] is illegal in Python [04:34] jdub, your answer and mine to that e-mail on the ubuntu-doc list about a weekly newsletter are so similar...it's scary. But you beat me to it by 2 minutes :) === |QuaD- [~QuaD@pcp0011386062pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mike_douglas [~mjd@70.70.204.152] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:41] I'm getting md5sum mismatches on the update server (both ca and us mirrors), would this be on my end or yours? [04:42] mike - there ar eproblems [04:42] use archive.ubuntu.com [04:42] and that'll work [04:43] thanks === message [~luca@host61-169.pool80116.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:56] podcasting continues to be the most annoying word in world atm [04:58] podcasting? === toresbe skips around singing "helter skelter" with "podcasting" over and over again as lyrics [04:59] bob2, no no no. The continual use of the made-up word "Ajax" in relation to 1.22 x 10^7 different new web software packages is MUCH more annoying [04:59] ooooh [04:59] good point [05:00] :D [05:00] seth_k: now imagine how this must feel for adam jackson, who IRCs as ajax, and has done so since the dawn of time (and it's his username everywhere, etc) [05:00] seth_k: he also gets random abuse from soccer fans who dislike the dutch team of the same name [05:00] lol [05:03] wow, there's a soccer team named after cleaning powder? [05:04] daniels: firegl for 9600xt is stupid, right? [05:04] I always thought the soccer team was named in honour of Ajax, a town near Toronto :) === lakin [~lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:05] bob2: nope, it's not accelerated for 3D otherwise [05:05] morning [05:05] ah [05:05] bob2: eye-axe, rather than age-axe [05:05] oh [05:05] crazy dutch! [05:09] mdz: All good. Just an initramfs status bit, emailed you. [05:09] robitaille: :-) === Safari_Al [~tr@ppp241-50.lns2.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Keybuk [~scott@descent.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:54] jdub: is he dutch? === srbaker [~srbaker@S0106001217ad6427.pk.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:05] mdz: you are not supposed to be working on sunday :P [06:05] fabbione: it's monday for you :-P [06:05] mdz: yes.. but not for you ;) [06:05] yet === thoreauputic [~prospero@wolax8-248.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:07] 12:01am doesn't count [06:08] the day doesn't count until you sleep === kafeine is away: hearing your voice is like icicles down my spine === Keybuk agrees with mdz [06:09] no sleep 'til brooklyn [06:10] I'm not entirely sure what day it is anyway [06:10] days are irrelevant [06:10] there is sleep, and there is wake [06:10] and there is a release [06:11] mdz: where 'brooklyn' in this case is actually 'breezy', or? [06:11] daniels: [06:11] mdz: it's so horribly 80s, yet I can't tear myself away [06:11] mdz: didn't they have that awful drumkit in there, too? [06:12] daniels: a drum machine, I expect [06:13] mdz: well, yeah [06:13] but that same dodgy snare in every other 80s song === mdz applies for a license to Ill [06:15] mdz: [DENIED] [06:15] sorry [06:15] [DENIED] [06:16] hey, how can i help? [06:17] pepsi: I don't think much can be done about the beastie boys' drum machine and its dodgy snare [06:17] but regarding Ubuntu, see http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyBounties [06:17] i dont like any of those :) === wm_eddie_ [~eddie@69-167-232-17.miamfl.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Keybuk thinks mdz has been taking too much sugar [06:17] or has been attending "Hollywood Parties" again [06:17] I don't do sugar === bob2 imagines Keybuk, mdz and daniels as 3 mc's, with elmo kicking up the phat beats [06:18] Keybuk: 'hollywood sugar' [06:18] bob2: and you can be the bboy [06:18] spinning on yoru hair [06:19] nah, bob2 will be behind bars shouting "I'M GOING TO KILL YOU BART!" [06:19] he doesn't shout it, he just creepily utters it in a gravelly voice [06:21] bart? [06:21] like the san francisco light rail? [06:22] like simpson [06:22] ah, with bob2 as sideshow [06:22] yes, Sideshow Bob [06:22] I'll get you, Scott Ja...yadayaday [06:22] bob2: eat my distro, man [06:23] I'll get you for this, Midler....... [06:23] Keybuk: you're arch-team, foo' [06:24] is there an arch-team gang sign? [06:24] if so, please submit a photograph [06:24] what's a "gang sign" ? [06:24] Keybuk: .... [06:24] Keybuk: http://women.alioth.debian.org/profiles/pictures/erinn.jpg [06:24] like that [06:25] ah, the "respect" thing [06:25] sure [06:25] in that particular photo, it is representative of "DW" [06:25] https://wiki.canonical.com/ArchCheatSheet?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=rosetta-arch.png [06:25] but the generalized concept applies to all sorts of things [06:25] it looks like that [06:26] takes 500 people, some with dislocated vertebrae, to pull it off though [06:26] Keybuk: ok, I want a photo of you representing that diagram with your hands [06:26] mdz: that I can do [06:26] it involves one hand, and one finger :p [06:26] pix plz [06:27] meh, the only camera I have nearby is my phone [06:27] I'll take what I ca nget [06:28] mdz: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rweir/arch.jpg [06:28] yeah, but I bet your phone doesn't accept photo messages? :p [06:29] Keybuk: I can receive MMS === seth_k [~seth@24-117-104-21.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:29] it probably costs me about $10 US, but it works [06:29] bob2: that's either an exaggerated latin letter 'H', or a characterization of an arch === Keybuk tries the USB lead [06:30] (and mutters something about breezy's lack of bluetooth support) [06:30] mdz: it's an arch with a crossbar [06:30] mdz: it symbolizes our unity through suffering [06:30] but phone being USB storage device, that's sex [06:32] http://descent.netsplit.com/~scott/dsc00009.jpg [06:32]