| tseng | maybe i should update my desktop to breezy | 12:01 |
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| tseng | oh | 12:01 |
| Nafallo | nothing much, chatting +webdev. | 12:01 |
| tseng | mythtv is broken | 12:01 |
| Nafallo | breezy rocks! | 12:01 |
| tseng | well | 12:01 |
| tseng | mythtv rocks more | 12:01 |
| Nafallo | 1-day bugs and stuff :-P | 12:02 |
| dooglus | how does a package get changed from a debian package to a ubuntu package of the same name? | 12:05 |
| Burgundavia | dooglus, most of the packages are simly rebuild automatically | 12:05 |
| Burgundavia | rebuilt even | 12:05 |
| Burgundavia | those that are -#ubuntu# have been changed by someone with ubuntu | 12:06 |
| dooglus | Burgundavia: for example, http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/libc/libcurses-perl/libcurses-perl_1.12-1_i386.deb is a hundred kb of working binaries | 12:06 |
| Burgundavia | ok | 12:06 |
| dooglus | whereas http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/libc/libcurses-perl/libcurses-perl_1.12-1_i386.deb is 7 kb of nothing much | 12:06 |
| dooglus | wouldn't it be better to just copy the file? less chance of messing it up that way | 12:07 |
| Burgundavia | ubuntu takes the debian source and rebuilds it in an Ubuntu environment | 12:07 |
| Burgundavia | as we have some different things, like python | 12:07 |
| dooglus | Burgundavia: if the rebuild process is automatic, is it visible? I mean, can I take a look at it and see why it is failing? | 12:08 |
| Burgundavia | here is build logs for that deb | 12:08 |
| Burgundavia | http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/libc/libcurses-perl/ | 12:08 |
| dooglus | thanks | 12:11 |
| dooglus | Burgundavia: do you know what command that log is the output from? | 12:19 |
| dooglus | Burgundavia: I just tried to reproduce the problem, but it builds and packages fine locally | 12:19 |
| dooglus | (using "apt-get source -b libcurses-perl") | 12:20 |
| Burgundavia | no idea | 12:21 |
| dooglus | hmmm, ok. | 12:21 |
| dooglus | thanks for the log url anyway. | 12:22 |
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| pepsi | hrm | 12:50 |
| pepsi | whats this channel for? | 12:50 |
| ajmitch | ubuntu, masters of the universe, we deal with all the packages in the universe component of ubuntu | 12:51 |
| tseng | what are topics for? :P | 12:51 |
| pepsi | the topic lacks a description of what the channel is | 12:52 |
| pepsi | masters of the universe isnt the most obvious :P | 12:52 |
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| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:Mez] : Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers| http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Calendar | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTodo | please file universe bugs in https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/distros/ubuntu/+bugs | Please dont complain about mono deps for next 2 weeks | Please dont complain about X for the next 2 weeks | ||
| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:Mez] : Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Calendar | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTodo | please file universe bugs in https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/distros/ubuntu/+bugs | Please dont complain about mono deps for next 2 weeks | Please dont complain about X for the next 2 weeks | ||
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| Unfrgiven | morning all | 01:11 |
| crimsun | it'd make more sense to place http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU ahead of http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Calendar :P | 01:12 |
| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:Mez] : Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Calendar | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTodo | please file universe bugs in https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/distros/ubuntu/+bugs | Please dont complain about mono deps for next 2 weeks | Please dont complain about X for the next 2 weeks | ||
| Mez | :P | 01:16 |
| Mez | change it yourslef you lazy bugger | 01:16 |
| Mez | o crimsun, I hear you'll be signing amaranth's key | 01:16 |
| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:tseng] : Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Calendar | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTodo | please file universe bugs in https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/distros/ubuntu/+bugs | Please dont complain about mono deps for next 2 weeks | Please dont complain about X for the next 2 weeks || Dont complain period | ||
| tseng | that should cover it. | 01:25 |
| pepsi | thats a much better topic | 01:27 |
| Mez | lol | 01:28 |
| tseng | not that people actually read topics | 01:29 |
| doko | Please don't complain about anything for the next 8 weeks | 01:29 |
| tseng | doko: yep. | 01:29 |
| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:Mez] : Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Calendar | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTodo | please file universe bugs in https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/distros/ubuntu/+bugs | Please dont complain about mono deps for next 2 weeks | Please dont complain about X for the next 2 weeks || If you wish to complain about anything, complain in #flood | ||
| doko | tseng, by the way, may I complain about the mono2 bit? | 01:30 |
| Mez | thats better tseng | 01:30 |
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| Mez | doko - yes, in #flood | 01:30 |
| tseng | doko: i started it | 01:31 |
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| doko | Mez: hmm, I think I like the pointer to the bug reporting system better ... | 01:31 |
| tseng | doko: it broke the 1.0 stuff in the process | 01:31 |
| doko | tseng: hmm, not nice | 01:31 |
| tseng | doko: so its not as easy as it initially looked | 01:31 |
| tseng | re splitting up 1.0 vs 2.0 | 01:31 |
| doko | tseng: I'm doing Java in the meantime ... | 01:33 |
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| Mez | o_O | 01:34 |
| Mez | hey seth | 01:34 |
| seth_k | ? | 01:36 |
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| janm | hi | 04:13 |
| ivoks | hi | 04:15 |
| Mez | hey ivoks :D | 04:17 |
| Mez | still wiating for that apology :D | 04:17 |
| Mez | :P | 04:17 |
| ivoks | ? | 04:25 |
| ivoks | ah, sorry | 04:25 |
| ivoks | if that makes you smile ;) | 04:25 |
| Mez | lol | 04:27 |
| Mez | am just kidding around with ya :d | 04:27 |
| Mez | anyways L:D I did some wubbing to k3b and got it working for breezy | 04:27 |
| Mez | w00t | 04:27 |
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| dooglus | Mez: you saw this, I take it? https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11535 | 06:43 |
| seth_k | it's 6AM for mez, he's been asleep less than 2 hours. he'll notice it eventually though | 06:47 |
| dooglus | sure. | 06:47 |
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| \sh | morning | 07:55 |
| Unfrgiven | \sh: hey dude | 08:07 |
| \sh | Hey Unfrgiven | 08:07 |
| Unfrgiven | \sh: how goes it? | 08:08 |
| \sh | Unfrgiven: just came to my office and started to work :) | 08:08 |
| Unfrgiven | \sh: ah right... its a public holiday here today =) | 08:09 |
| Unfrgiven | \sh: whats the state of the transition? how much is done now? anything needing to be done ugrently? | 08:09 |
| \sh | Unfrgiven: i will give libflash during this day a shot and I saw some fixes from ivoks.. | 08:10 |
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| \sh | guys...if you want fun in the office: http://linux.blogweb.de/archives/31-Thx-Aseigo-Long-time-ago,-there-was-a-Balmer,-a-crazy-one,-too..html | 08:45 |
| DanielN | \sh: couldn't look it here at office.. fsucking proxy :/ | 08:51 |
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| ivoks | hi | 09:17 |
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| xerox | Hi! | 11:08 |
| xerox | Do you know where could I get the lastest gaim= | 11:08 |
| xerox | '?' | 11:08 |
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| xerox | I think I found it, but I can't find a way to add it to sources.list. It's there: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gaim/ | 11:13 |
| DanielN | c++ heroes here? | 11:18 |
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| ivoks | xerox: ? | 11:22 |
| xerox | ivoks, which source I have to add to get that repository? | 11:24 |
| xerox | deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main ? | 11:25 |
| ivoks | deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main | 11:25 |
| xerox | I think I've messed up my sources.list. | 11:25 |
| xerox | What is "restricted" ? | 11:26 |
| ivoks | repository of non-free packages | 11:26 |
| xerox | ivoks, can you point me to an example _safe_ sources.list for hoary? | 11:27 |
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| ivoks | ? | 11:28 |
| ivoks | safe sources.list would be those two lines you have 4-5 lines ago :) | 11:28 |
| xerox | :( | 11:30 |
| ivoks | problems? | 11:31 |
| xerox | apt doesn't let me install anything | 11:31 |
| ivoks | maybe you should ask in #ubuntu, not here | 11:32 |
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| xerox | Thanks much for the help ivoks! | 11:33 |
| DanielN | xerox: try sudo and ten apt command | 11:37 |
| xerox | DanielN I know I should do it as root :) | 11:39 |
| xerox | But that seem a problem in the gaim package... | 11:39 |
| xerox | gaim: Depends: gaim-data (= 1:1.1.4-1ubuntu4.2) but 1:1.3.1-1ubuntu1 is to be installed | 11:39 |
| xerox | E: Broken packages | 11:39 |
| ivoks | you were using backports | 11:39 |
| xerox | nope | 11:40 |
| xerox | deb http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main universe multiverse restricted | 11:40 |
| xerox | deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main universe multiverse restricted | 11:40 |
| ivoks | apt-get update? | 11:40 |
| xerox | ivoks, I've done it many many times in the last 2 minutes | 11:41 |
| ivoks | apt-cache show gaim-data | grep Version | 11:41 |
| xerox | Version: 1:1.3.1-1ubuntu1 | 11:41 |
| xerox | Version: 1:1.1.4-1ubuntu4.2 | 11:41 |
| xerox | Version: 1:1.1.4-1ubuntu4 | 11:41 |
| xerox | Does that mean I have 3 gaim-data installed ? O_o | 11:41 |
| DanielN | yep | 11:42 |
| xerox | ugh. | 11:42 |
| ivoks | no | 11:42 |
| xerox | :) | 11:42 |
| ivoks | that means you have three sources for it | 11:42 |
| xerox | Better. | 11:42 |
| DanielN | not really | 11:42 |
| ivoks | sudo apt-get install gaim-data | 11:42 |
| DanielN | ;) | 11:42 |
| ivoks | you see.. | 11:42 |
| xerox | gaim-data is already the newest version. | 11:42 |
| ivoks | that one 1:1.3.1-1ubuntu1 isn't from hoary | 11:42 |
| ivoks | you used backports | 11:42 |
| ivoks | period | 11:42 |
| xerox | $ apt-cache policy gaim-data | grep Installed | 11:43 |
| xerox | Installed: 1:1.3.1-1ubuntu1 | 11:43 |
| ivoks | you have to remove gaim-data, and then install it again | 11:43 |
| xerox | ?? | 11:43 |
| xerox | But it0s here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gaim/ | 11:43 |
| ivoks | you installed version that is NOT in ubuntu | 11:43 |
| ivoks | xerox: that's gaim for breezy | 11:43 |
| ivoks | not hoary | 11:43 |
| xerox | oh. | 11:43 |
| ivoks | remove it | 11:44 |
| xerox | I didn't use backports you see :( I'm not lying! | 11:44 |
| ivoks | yeah, you did something even worse :) | 11:44 |
| xerox | Removed. | 11:44 |
| xerox | Sorry :( | 11:44 |
| ivoks | now install gaim | 11:45 |
| xerox | apt-cache policy {gaim,gaim-data} still show 1.3.1 | 11:45 |
| ivoks | from where | 11:46 |
| xerox | I deleted the .debs and it installs 1.1.4 | 11:46 |
| xerox | OK, now it works, but gaim is old :) | 11:46 |
| xerox | #ubuntu topic says "DO NOT USE BREEZY YET", so I suppose there is no way to get an update gaim. Right? | 11:47 |
| ivoks | sure there is | 11:48 |
| ivoks | download source and compile it | 11:48 |
| xerox | Right. | 11:48 |
| xerox | ...but I would be irrespectful to your hard job in packaging ;) | 11:49 |
| ivoks | doko: openscenegraph and opencv should build fine now... :) | 11:51 |
| DanielN | \sh: wouldn't you say something to me?? :) | 11:54 |
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| Mez | dooglus: er no i didnt notice, but - meh - it still doesnt work with that manul libdepnds changed, but - when it was build it auto lib-depends n tha | 12:02 |
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| DanielN | has someone here a good document, to find out the main build errors with gcc4 ? | 01:14 |
| DanielN | or the main changes in building | 01:14 |
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| \sh | back | 02:02 |
| \sh | DanielN: there is a document | 02:03 |
| \sh | DanielN: http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-4.0/changes.html and http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-3.4/changes.html#cplusplus | 02:04 |
| DanielN | \sh: yep, that hasn't aided (or however) me... :/ | 02:23 |
| DanielN | error: explicit qualification in declaration | 02:28 |
| DanielN | that's stated (i googled already, without much helpful information) | 02:28 |
| \sh | DanielN: did u check the source line? paste the sourceline into jabber please :) or give me a build log | 02:35 |
| Riddell | what's the current recommendation on 0.6beta1 style version numbers? | 02:37 |
| DanielN | \sh: | 02:37 |
| DanielN | inline std::string SigCPerl::get_string(SV *val) throw() | 02:37 |
| \sh | remove the inline | 02:39 |
| \sh | (try it at least) ;) | 02:39 |
| DanielN | ;) | 02:39 |
| \sh | i had a similar issue with it | 02:40 |
| \sh | hot shot ... i don't know if this is it | 02:40 |
| DanielN | i hpe not, because there ar thousands of inline's :(( | 02:43 |
| DanielN | \sh: err, but i can't remove inline.. i must replace ist with another function (which one? pah.. no idea :) ) | 02:52 |
| \sh | DanielN: which source? | 02:52 |
| DanielN | hmm? | 02:54 |
| DanielN | source package? | 02:54 |
| DanielN | sigcperl (breezy of course) | 02:55 |
| \sh | DanielN: which file and line? | 02:56 |
| DanielN | argh | 02:57 |
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| DanielN | sorry, i'm a bit scratched-off :) | 02:57 |
| DanielN | convert.h line 71 | 02:57 |
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| bddebian | Howdy | 02:58 |
| \sh | ah | 02:58 |
| \sh | inline std::string SigCPerl::get_string(SV *val) throw() | 02:59 |
| \sh | try this: | 02:59 |
| \sh | inline std::string get_string(SV *val) throw() | 02:59 |
| \sh | he was repeating the namespace identifieer | 02:59 |
| DanielN | ok | 03:00 |
| DanielN | i'll try | 03:00 |
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| DanielN | \sh: no more errors about line 71! | 03:05 |
| DanielN | but several others | 03:05 |
| DanielN | :) | 03:06 |
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| DanielN | WOOOHO :)) | 03:09 |
| DanielN | it builds fine now, \sh thanks alot | 03:09 |
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| DanielN | erm.. but i don't have too apply a patch now? simply provide the debdiff between old and new, right? | 03:10 |
| \sh | DanielN: u have to check...namespace ... { [...] } if the namespace is not closed, g++4 will raise errors for using namespace identifiers inside the function declaration | 03:10 |
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| DanielN | \sh: ok, what about the above question (about the patch) ? | 03:28 |
| \sh | DanielN: no.. | 03:44 |
| \sh | DanielN: do this: mkdir patchwork ; cd patchwork ; tar -xvzf sigcperl_0.2.0.orig.tar.gz ; mv sigcperl-0.2.0.orig sigcperl-0.2.0.orig.patched ; tar -xvzf sigcperl_0.2.0.orig.tar.gz | 03:46 |
| \sh | cd sigcperl-0.2.0.orig.patched | 03:46 |
| \sh | patch your source | 03:46 |
| \sh | cd .. | 03:46 |
| \sh | diff -ur sigcperl-0.2.0.orig sigcperl-0.2.0.orig.patched > 01_gcc4.patch | 03:46 |
| \sh | cd .. | 03:46 |
| \sh | cd sigcperl-0.2.0 | 03:46 |
| \sh | cd debian | 03:46 |
| \sh | mkdir patches | 03:47 |
| \sh | cp ../../patchwork/01_gcc4.patch patches/ | 03:47 |
| \sh | vi rules and add some patch targets | 03:47 |
| \sh | and also some unpatch targets :) | 03:47 |
| \sh | then u have a clean debianized source and apply the patches during buildtime | 03:48 |
| DanielN | yeah, thanks! | 03:49 |
| DanielN | Cxx trans is good for learning much i think | 03:49 |
| \sh | :) | 03:54 |
| \sh | ok..going home now | 04:01 |
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| ivoks | DanielN: ping | 04:44 |
| DanielN | ivoks: pong | 04:45 |
| DanielN | all: if i use dpatch, it must be a build-depend, right? | 04:46 |
| ivoks | DanielN: is cppopt finished? | 04:46 |
| ivoks | i never used dpatch :) | 04:46 |
| DanielN | well, i think (for me it's ok) | 04:46 |
| ivoks | i'm pretty sure hdf5 is FTBS :) | 04:49 |
| ivoks | this is very dificult package... | 04:49 |
| ivoks | put a comment there: waiting for new debian release | 04:50 |
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| ivoks | cause, debian will bring new release that will be buildable on amd64 with g++4 | 04:50 |
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| DanielN | ivoks: FTBS ? | 04:52 |
| ivoks | failed to build source | 04:52 |
| DanielN | ah | 04:52 |
| ivoks | i worked on that one | 04:52 |
| ivoks | very difficult | 04:52 |
| DanielN | argh | 04:52 |
| DanielN | i'll check it then | 04:53 |
| DanielN | and add a comment | 04:53 |
| ivoks | put comment - waiting for new debian release | 04:53 |
| DanielN | yep | 04:53 |
| ivoks | i talked with debian maintainer of that package | 04:53 |
| ivoks | he said he's working on new version | 04:53 |
| DanielN | ivoks: remember me tonight again, when i'm at home | 04:53 |
| DanielN | :) | 04:53 |
| ivoks | who knows will I be here | 04:54 |
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| DanielN | ivoks: i'm sure you'll ;) | 05:04 |
| DanielN | so, time to go.. fscking patch has time until tomorrow :)) | 05:04 |
| DanielN | see ya later on | 05:04 |
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| bradb | hey uber hackers | 05:35 |
| bradb | malone usability question: what do you guys think about the current ordering of comments? | 05:36 |
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| Amaranth | on a 26k connection, give me a minute to load it up | 05:38 |
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| Amaranth | bradb: got an example of a bug with comments? :) | 05:39 |
| bradb | Amaranth: https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/bugs/889 | 05:39 |
| Amaranth | you do know malone has horizontal scrollbars at 800x600, right? | 05:40 |
| Lathiat | it looks ugly anyway | 05:40 |
| Lathiat | soassumedly | 05:41 |
| Lathiat | theyll do something about that | 05:41 |
| Amaranth | hehe | 05:41 |
| ivoks | hi | 05:41 |
| Amaranth | get sgarrity to work on it for you :D | 05:41 |
| Amaranth | bradb: you've seen how the forums work, right? | 05:42 |
| Amaranth | you click the little reply button on a post to reply to it? | 05:42 |
| bradb | Amaranth: when, let's take this one step at a time here... | 05:42 |
| bradb | Amaranth: first, what do you guys think of the ordering of comments on the bug page? | 05:42 |
| Amaranth | i'm just talking about comments here | 05:42 |
| Amaranth | you have them ordered by date with the latest comment first? | 05:43 |
| bradb | Amaranth: yes | 05:43 |
| Amaranth | should be the other way around if you expect people to actually read them | 05:43 |
| bradb | i agree ;) | 05:44 |
| bradb | just wanted to make sure we're on the same page before i talk to sabdfl about it | 05:44 |
| bradb | Amaranth: yes, i'm aware of the horiz scrolling at 800x600. just like bugzilla, right? | 05:52 |
| Amaranth | let me check bugzilla | 05:52 |
| bradb | e.g. https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1291 | 05:53 |
| Amaranth | i'll get back to you in a year when it finishes loading :) | 05:55 |
| bddebian | heh | 05:55 |
| Lathiat | haha | 05:55 |
| Amaranth | i think it stalled | 05:55 |
| bradb | Amaranth: 26k sounds like cruel and unusual punishment | 05:56 |
| Lathiat | cus you hit refresh and it only took a month? | 05:56 |
| Amaranth | so far though i only have a very small horiz scrollbar | 05:56 |
| Amaranth | bradb: it is | 05:56 |
| Amaranth | bradb: i'm stuck with this for a week | 05:56 |
| Amaranth | ok, the horizontal scrollbar with bugzilla is close to the size of the one in malone | 05:57 |
| Amaranth | but things aren't as squished as they are in malone :) | 05:57 |
| bradb | Amaranth: in your ideal world, how would the Malone bug page be improved to suit your taste? | 05:58 |
| Lathiat | with a dbi | 05:58 |
| Amaranth | bradb: I've been meaning to make a mockup of that. | 05:58 |
| bradb | Amaranth: a mockup? wow, that'd be some hardcore user feedback. ;) by all means. i'd love to see it. | 06:00 |
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| Amaranth | bradb: basically it'd just look like bugzilla though :) | 06:01 |
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| bradb | Amaranth: IOW, you don't think bugzilla's bug page can be improved? | 06:02 |
| Amaranth | i think it can be, but not much | 06:02 |
| bradb | ok | 06:03 |
| bradb | Amaranth: what about for people who aren't skilled hackers? would your grandma be able to use the bugzilla bug page, for example? | 06:05 |
| Amaranth | bradb: she couldn't use malone either :) | 06:05 |
| Amaranth | but that's not fair, she can't even use firefox | 06:05 |
| bradb | Amaranth: i agree that she couldn't use Malone either. i'd probably rather be paid by the hour to show her how to use the bugzilla bug page though. ;) | 06:06 |
| bradb | Amaranth: though, clearly, you like the bugzilla bug page, and a lot of skilled users like you do too. in Malone, i think we can do even better. | 06:07 |
| Amaranth | so basically we need something that lets hackers get things done quickly (like bugzilla now) but is still usable for users | 06:07 |
| bradb | that's the approach we're taking, yeah. i just landed a big patch (not yet rolled out into production), to hopefully reduce the mental burden on malone users trying to edit the status/priority/severity/etc. of a bug reported somewhere. | 06:08 |
| bradb | Amaranth: btw, if you want to send a mockup my way: brad.bollenbach@ubuntu.com. | 06:12 |
| Amaranth | it'll probably be next week when i get back home | 06:13 |
| bradb | Amaranth: (or any other malone feedback, for that matter) | 06:13 |
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| mitsuhiko | hi | 06:39 |
| bddebian | Hello mitsuhiko | 06:39 |
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| ivoks | lol | 08:06 |
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| ivoks | bender totally rocks! | 08:07 |
| ivoks | lol, i watch too much futurama :) it's bledner | 08:07 |
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| DanielN | ivoks: i can seriously say that hdf5 builds (with warnings) .. but well, on x86 | 08:36 |
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| dooglus | Mez: I notice that k3b installs fine now in breezy. | 08:44 |
| ivoks | DanielN: yes, it builds on x86 | 08:46 |
| ivoks | amd is real fun :) | 08:46 |
| DanielN | yeah that's wath i thought ;) | 08:47 |
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| herve | hi there! | 08:51 |
| bddebian | Heya herve | 08:51 |
| DanielN | hello herve :) | 08:52 |
| herve | how's life in motuland? | 08:52 |
| DanielN | nais | 08:52 |
| herve | I take it for positive attitude ;-) | 08:53 |
| DanielN | :) | 08:53 |
| bddebian | nais? | 08:53 |
| herve | nothing... | 08:56 |
| herve | ? | 08:56 |
| DanielN | wooho :) my first self written patch works :)) | 08:57 |
| herve | tell us what "nais" means first :-) | 08:58 |
| DanielN | nais == nice | 08:58 |
| bddebian | ahh | 08:59 |
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| herve | I expected a "nice" acronym :-) | 09:00 |
| DanielN | mhm | 09:00 |
| DanielN | lett me think about that :) | 09:00 |
| DanielN | sounds like a nice task | 09:00 |
| bddebian | Not a .. .. | 09:00 |
| bddebian | Not An Issue Shithead | 09:01 |
| bddebian | nope | 09:01 |
| herve | not any incident so far? | 09:01 |
| bddebian | Nice | 09:01 |
| bddebian | DanielN: Congrats btw | 09:01 |
| herve | hmm... bad english, forget about it | 09:01 |
| bddebian | Not Any Issues So far | 09:01 |
| DanielN | to find one | 09:01 |
| DanielN | bddebian: cxx trans? | 09:02 |
| Amaranth | nice == Not an Interesting Conversation .. | 09:02 |
| Amaranth | can't think of a good E | 09:02 |
| DanielN | Amaranth: argh | 09:02 |
| DanielN | i thought about _recursive_ acronyms | 09:02 |
| Amaranth | argh == Assholes Rarely Generate Help | 09:03 |
| Amaranth | ;) | 09:03 |
| bddebian | Amaranth: :-) | 09:03 |
| DanielN | :) | 09:04 |
| DanielN | :)) | 09:04 |
| DanielN | hm .. doesn't debdiff mark added directories in debian/ ? (i.e patches/) | 09:08 |
| DanielN | argh .. interdiff is the magical word :) | 09:08 |
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| tseng | Nafallo: where you working with me on beagle/amd64? | 09:25 |
| tseng | were* | 09:25 |
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| ivoks | hm... nokia, nokia, nokia | 09:26 |
| herve | ?? | 09:27 |
| ivoks | i quote: "Open source software is an ideal basis for development since it enables Nokia to leverage and contribute to speedy software innovation and development." | 09:27 |
| ivoks | they are building new browser for series60 | 09:27 |
| ivoks | based on KHTML | 09:27 |
| herve | no, webcore | 09:27 |
| ivoks | acctually, on apples webocre | 09:28 |
| ivoks | right :) | 09:28 |
| ivoks | and in the same time, they fight aggainst that same opensource in europe | 09:28 |
| DanielN | there are smartphones from motorola around, running linux | 09:31 |
| DanielN | :) | 09:31 |
| DanielN | ah herve: as you asked for motu news: yeah, there are! when is signed off by 2 motu's, so you have just to change your entry in the wiki, and it's ready :) | 09:33 |
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| herve | DanielN: remind me in 15 minutes | 09:34 |
| ivoks | i didn't sign anything :) | 09:35 |
| DanielN | you marked it as ok :) | 09:35 |
| DanielN | different meanings | 09:36 |
| DanielN | it think ;) | 09:36 |
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| herve | tssssss | 09:37 |
| ivoks | you are too young to smoke | 09:37 |
| herve | :-) | 09:37 |
| \sh | re | 09:37 |
| \sh | i wanted to say that too :) | 09:37 |
| herve | people are either too young or too old to smoke | 09:37 |
| \sh | reviewing time first | 09:37 |
| \sh | or too dead to smoke ;) | 09:37 |
| ivoks | man, cigaretts really kill | 09:38 |
| herve | 50 million people a year, I heard | 09:38 |
| ivoks | i smoke one sometimes, but that's like 20 in 2 weeks :) | 09:38 |
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| \sh | ;) | 09:39 |
| herve | ttt | 09:39 |
| ivoks | you know, there is bigger chance you will die of cigaret, than from cancer? | 09:39 |
| herve | hmm | 09:39 |
| \sh | I know there is a bigger change to die from a heart attack | 09:39 |
| ivoks | make that tumor, not cancer | 09:39 |
| herve | you don't catch a cancer by smoking? | 09:39 |
| ivoks | herve: you do, but not all cancers kill | 09:40 |
| ivoks | those from someking do, but others don't | 09:40 |
| \sh | but lungcancer yes | 09:40 |
| ivoks | even AIDS doesn't kill like that | 09:41 |
| ivoks | but those luckys really taste good :) | 09:41 |
| herve | no sorry, it just stinks | 09:42 |
| ivoks | :) | 09:42 |
| ivoks | ;...( | 09:42 |
| ivoks | i still can't upload | 09:43 |
| herve | I'll upload after my phone call | 09:43 |
| ivoks | btw, NM is great tool | 09:43 |
| ivoks | have to go now... | 09:44 |
| herve | NM? | 09:44 |
| ivoks | network manager | 09:44 |
| ivoks | i have one buggy version | 09:44 |
| ivoks | but does the job very good | 09:44 |
| ivoks | well... bye | 09:45 |
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| DanielN | herve: time to remind you ^^ | 09:54 |
| herve | still on the phone | 09:54 |
| \sh | grmpf..answered my work cell....have to go..laters dudes | 10:03 |
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| herve | re | 10:22 |
| bddebian | wb her | 10:22 |
| bddebian | (*&&^%*&%% | 10:23 |
| DanielN | wb | 10:23 |
| bddebian | err wb herve | 10:23 |
| mitsuhiko | wb | 10:23 |
| mitsuhiko | hi | 10:28 |
| mitsuhiko | important question | 10:28 |
| mitsuhiko | maybe you know the linux day 2005 somewhere in Germany (no idea where...) | 10:28 |
| mitsuhiko | does ubuntu has something like a contact person where users can talk to? | 10:28 |
| herve | trulux, ping | 10:32 |
| mitsuhiko | nobody any ideas? | 10:33 |
| herve | ask on the devel list? | 10:34 |
| mitsuhiko | herve: i thought someone has any ideas | 10:34 |
| herve | or maybe there exists a better list | 10:34 |
| mitsuhiko | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/LinuxTag <== very empty | 10:34 |
| herve | check with the person who created/last modified the page | 10:35 |
| mitsuhiko | Boris Karnikowski from the Addison Wesley publishing house asked if there are any ubuntulinux members | 10:37 |
| DanielN | could someone tell me, what is to do if i applied a source-code patch to a transition lib ? | 10:38 |
| mitsuhiko | Because this publishing house has there a ubuntu book presentation | 10:38 |
| DanielN | mitushiko: why do you ask that just in MOTU | 10:39 |
| DanielN | ? | 10:39 |
| mitsuhiko | because I thought someone knows something about it | 10:39 |
| mitsuhiko | or because someone has compassion with me | 10:40 |
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| TMM | hello | 10:44 |
| jbailey | TMM: =) | 10:44 |
| TMM | I salute you. ow MOFO's | 10:44 |
| mitsuhiko | good night boys | 10:44 |
| TMM | euih | 10:44 |
| mitsuhiko | cu | 10:44 |
| TMM | MOTU's :P | 10:44 |
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| jbailey | Anyone around to show a potential MOTU the ropes? | 10:44 |
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| TMM | I am interested in adding some form of bootsplash stuff to ubuntu, basically | 10:46 |
| TMM | for starters anyway :) | 10:46 |
| jbailey | TMM: sladen has been the lead on that. | 10:46 |
| tritium | TMM, have you looked into the usplash project that's being worked on by sladen? | 10:46 |
| bddebian | jbailey: You a potential MOTU?? | 10:46 |
| TMM | ah, I've heard a lot about this sladen dude now, :) | 10:46 |
| TMM | didn't know about usplash | 10:47 |
| bddebian | Heya tritium | 10:47 |
| tritium | Hi there bddebian :) | 10:47 |
| jbailey | bddebian: I don't know if I'm considered a motu or not... | 10:47 |
| bddebian | :-) | 10:47 |
| bddebian | jbailey is just HMFIC | 10:47 |
| TMM | I'd like to join the ranks :) | 10:48 |
| jbailey | Her Majesties Finest Ice Cream? | 10:48 |
| TMM | or at least, do some good, with or without any form of a title, I just want some help for now ;) | 10:48 |
| bddebian | Head Mother Fscker In Charge | 10:48 |
| jbailey | *lol* | 10:48 |
| jbailey | Certainly that's not me. | 10:48 |
| bddebian | :-) | 10:48 |
| herve | DanielN, ping | 10:48 |
| TMM | YOU are the one fscking my disks? :) | 10:48 |
| TMM | hmm, that usplash sounds a lot like the idea I had | 10:50 |
| tritium | TMM, one of the documents I recommend starting from is the Debian New Maintainer's Guide. | 10:50 |
| TMM | tritium, universe != ubuntu sid repo's right? | 10:51 |
| tritium | TMM, the main wiki page, which contains many useful links is here: http://www.ubuntu.com/wiki/MOTU | 10:51 |
| DanielN | herve: pong | 10:51 |
| DanielN | :) | 10:51 |
| herve | DanielN, I can't access your archive so I can't review your package | 10:51 |
| TMM | euh... debian sid... *sigh* | 10:52 |
| tritium | TMM, right. The best description of the various components is here, I believe: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/document_view | 10:52 |
| DanielN | http://marissa.ath.cx/daniel/archive/breezy/ | 10:53 |
| DanielN | ?? | 10:53 |
| DanielN | works for me | 10:53 |
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| herve | DanielN, I hope so, it's your machine ;-) | 10:53 |
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| herve | trulux, ping | 10:53 |
| trulux | herve: pong | 10:54 |
| trulux | herve: though I must go to bed | 10:54 |
| herve | quicly | 10:54 |
| trulux | herve: tell me | 10:54 |
| herve | I was talking about the libre software meeting in dijon with you? | 10:54 |
| DanielN | herve: so you couldn't access? or is it not reachable?? | 10:55 |
| herve | DanielN, timeout | 10:55 |
| trulux | herve: yup | 10:55 |
| herve | trulux, bad news, I can't go there, I'm still broek | 10:56 |
| DanielN | hrmpf .. time to reboot the router :/ | 10:56 |
| herve | broke | 10:56 |
| trulux | herve: I talked about meeting all of us (those who go there) together | 10:56 |
| tritium | TMM, is that a good start? Do you have any more questions? | 10:56 |
| TMM | tritium, it looks like it, thanks | 10:57 |
| TMM | tritium, I was already reading, sorry for the delay :) | 10:57 |
| tritium | TMM, no problem. :) | 10:58 |
| herve | DanielN, tomorrow now :-) | 10:58 |
| TMM | does anyone know if there is any actual code for the usplash stuff? | 10:59 |
| TMM | sladen? :) | 10:59 |
| herve | I hope he does know :-) | 11:00 |
| herve | night all | 11:00 |
| tritium | TMM, yes, there is a usplash page...let me find it | 11:00 |
| TMM | tritium, I'm on a wikipage, but it sounds like a lot of ideas, and very little implementation :) | 11:01 |
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| sladen | TMM: yeah ;-) | 11:03 |
| TMM | well, I wanted to do some form of a framebuffer detect and setup utility anyway, might as well build it, whatever is going to be implemented, that is going to be required anyway | 11:04 |
| tritium | TMM, this is the only code I found: http://www.paul.sladen.org/projects/usplash/download/. Is that the latest for public consumption, sladen? | 11:04 |
| TMM | letting the user figure out weither to use vga= or some arcane video= command is pretty pointless | 11:04 |
| TMM | that, and that for instance, the intel cards can't do a linear framebuffer according to VESA 2.0 standards... so you need that specific driver for that | 11:05 |
| TMM | or be stuck in 16 colours | 11:05 |
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| DanielN | herve: i've rebooted my router, check back please :) | 11:06 |
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| TMM | tritium, looks good | 11:14 |
| tritium | TMM, cool | 11:14 |
| TMM | still, there's a need to configure the framebuffer correctly :) | 11:16 |
| TMM | I wish sladen was here :) but he's been idle for 13 minutes now, so I assume he just left | 11:17 |
| sladen | TMM: I'm always here, but they X hundred users who've just been down for an hoour whilst we upgrade their sat-modems are more immediate :-) | 11:19 |
| TMM | sladen, ahhhh yes, I can see that :) | 11:20 |
| TMM | sladen, I envision, pissed people ;) | 11:20 |
| TMM | sladen, I've got some thoughts on fading X too btw :) | 11:21 |
| DanielN | time to sleep | 11:25 |
| DanielN | see you all | 11:25 |
| ruhib | I use http://ubuntujava.yimports.com/ | 11:27 |
| tritium | Good luck, TMM. See you around... | 11:38 |
| TMM | tritium, thanks :) | 11:39 |
| tritium | :) | 11:39 |
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| Nafallo | tseng: with bugreporting, yes :-). | 11:56 |
| tseng | Nafallo: hm right | 11:56 |
| tseng | Nafallo: do you still have that gtk-sharp exception | 11:57 |
| Nafallo | tseng: last time with blam today. pre-first_daily_update though. | 11:58 |
| tseng | um so | 11:58 |
| tseng | get the exception again please :) | 11:58 |
| tseng | and save it | 11:58 |
| Nafallo | tseng: hehe, I'll try :-). I haven't figured out what makes it pop :-P. | 11:59 |
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