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SeamusLPBest you can do is complain to macromedia, and good luck, because I can tell you they don't give a crap.12:00
dennislol12:01
dennisAre there any free online javascript messengers or something?12:01
dennisJava maybe?12:01
bpucciodennis: does she have windows?  if so, she can use netmeeting to talk to your gnomemeeting12:01
dennishmm12:01
Seveasdennis, for which messenging network?12:02
fishieuse gaim?12:02
JDahldennis, if you just need an IM client go for jabber12:02
dennisWell...12:02
squinnMyspace IM12:02
dennisIt doesn't work in linux12:02
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dennisThat is what we have been using12:02
Tuxicitybpuccio, can a "blackout" brake an onboard network adapter through an ethernet cable?12:02
zenroxgaim will do yahoo,aol, icq,msn ,jabber ,irc, etc...12:02
JDahldennis, that's opensource and available on all platforms - and gaim supports it12:02
SeveasTuxicity, possibly12:02
davidis jabber an all purpose IM client?12:02
jesusHi12:02
JDahldavid, yes12:03
dennisNo the problem is..she can't install anything...12:03
zukalklast time i checked, jabber is a protocol12:03
dennisIt has to be webbased12:03
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TuxicitySeveas, but the router (which is in the middle) is fine..12:03
SeamusLPdennis:  If you use yahoo messenger, I think she can use a java-based yahoo messenger client12:03
SeveasTuxicity, weirder things have happened12:03
dennishmm12:03
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SeamusLPdennis:  Or she can use a java applet to connect to IRC12:03
tommy2toeshi12:03
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JAyRULEyes!!  esound output works! thanks guys12:03
SeveasTuxicity, you can check the physical connection with: sudo mii-diag eth012:04
tommy2toesI came from windows XP and Ubuntu rules!!!12:04
Seveas(if eth0 is the card of course)12:04
JAyRULEit was set to oss12:04
Seveastommy2toes, welcome aboard!12:04
tommy2toes:)12:04
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tommy2toesthanks12:04
jesusnvidia drivers during installation process give a message that cant find cc compilation program12:04
seth_kdennis: http://webmessenger.msn.com is an online version of MSN, you could use that?12:04
dennishmm12:04
dennisOkay :D12:04
jesushow can I see if is installed?12:04
Seveasjesus, you should use the nvidia drivers from ubuntu12:05
Seveasthey don't need to be compiled12:05
jesusgcc is installed12:05
fishiesomething in my trash says it can't be deleted because i dont have permissions to modify the parent directory...but i changed the permissions on it to 77712:05
Seveasjesus, install build-essential12:05
black13jesus, love you man!12:05
jesusi think the nvidia drivers form ubuntu dont have open gl libraries, right?12:06
Seveasjesus, rofl, of course they have..12:06
SeamusLPdennis:  Not sure if you can access web messenger in linux, but you can use GAIM to connect to MSN, and she can use web messenger in windows...12:06
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mjrjesus, the restricted section has the opengl drivers12:06
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matthew_wIs it possible to get more complicated games ( like star wars Knights of the old republic ) to run under Wine?12:06
pukihi12:06
johancan you use a router as a bridge12:06
zenroxjesus, read www.ubuntuguide.org for nvidia driver install12:06
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jesusok, thanks12:07
steven_Hello everyone.  I'm new to ubuntu, and relatively new to linux in general.  I'm trying to use Synaptic to install iptraf, and I get an MD5Sum mismatch error.  Is this a problem with the packages at the server, or is there something wrong with my configuration.  I've never had any problems like this before.  Thanks!12:07
Seveaszenrox, NO!12:07
^thehatsrule^matthew_w, sure12:07
Seveaszenrox,jesus: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto12:07
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Seveasubuntuguide is evil12:07
mjrjohan, well, no, if it's only a router :)12:07
matthew_w^thehatsrule^ - should I just try it, then?12:07
fishieah im not the owner of those files12:07
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^thehatsrule^lol Seveas12:07
jesusok thank you12:07
^thehatsrule^matthew_w, sure12:07
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pukilist12:08
JAyRULEwhats the name of the update package for flash?12:08
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davidsteven, according to seveas, sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list ..i had the same problem and that fixed it12:08
steven_thanks david12:08
davidthank seveas ^^12:09
deansweb2004how do you make the smb shortcuts appear in my computer?12:09
steven_thanks seveas, lol12:09
dennisHas anyone here installed cedega cvs?12:09
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davidim installing dx9wine but its similar in installation i thin12:10
SeamusLPdeansweb2004:  Will it show up if you do places -> connec to server?12:10
deansweb2004no12:10
deansweb2004ive done that and ive connected12:10
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deansweb2004but it shows up in network servers12:10
SeamusLPdeansweb2004:  I think you could probably mount it to /mnt and have it show up, but I'm not sure how to do that... may want to check the wiki12:11
daviddennis, http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=4512:11
jesusI got this message installing the drivers :12:11
jesusapt-get install nvidia-glx12:11
jesusE: No se pudo bloquear /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Recurso no disponible temporalmente)12:11
jesusE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?12:11
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deansweb2004is their any other way?12:11
PhantomFreakI've got a little problem with GAIM for some reason it isn't showing it's logo in the top right... So now when I close my buddy list it disconnects me... How do I fix it?12:12
Seveasjesus, please do not paste in here12:12
JDahljesus, did you use sudo with apt-get?12:12
dennisapt-get install cvs build-essential bison flex-old libasound2-dev x-window-system-dev libpng12-dev libjpeg62-dev libfreetype6-dev libxrender-dev libttf2 libttf-dev libsdl1.2-dev libsdl-ttf2.0-dev libsdl-net1.2-dev libsdl-gfx1.2-dev msttcorefonts libfontconfig1-dev12:12
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Seveasjesus, and close synaptica and all other package managers before doing apt-get12:12
zukalkjesus, make sure Synaptic is not runnin'12:12
dennisWould that work in Ubuntu?12:12
jesusim in a su session12:12
davideh i tried, i had problems12:12
Seveasdennis, i have doubts about msttcorefonts, but the rest should work12:13
dennisk12:13
SeamusLPPhantomFreak:  Did you add the notification area applet to your gnome-panel?12:13
dennisshould I do that in sudo or not?12:13
zukalkPhantomFreak: it's a Gaim plugin12:13
daviddennis, i downloaded each individual but it might work better for u12:13
zukalkyou have to enable it first12:13
dennisI'm going to install cedega cvs12:13
hypa7iamsttcorefonts should work fine, i just installed them12:13
SeamusLPzukalk:  Isn't it enabled by default?12:13
zukalkSeamusLP i think not12:13
sandyeggoboywhenever i logout, i always have to "kill" the X session and reboot before i can see the display. How can I fix this?12:14
PhantomFreakThat fixed it... I was fiddling with the plugins a few days ago, musta have accidentally removed it!12:14
PhantomFreakthank you!12:14
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zukalkoh btw, SeamusLP, whenever i kill gnome-panel, apps like Gaim are killed too (or at least the tray icon dissapears). is this a GNOME or Ubuntu bug?12:16
SeamusLPzukalk:  Hard to say, it doesn't kill some apps for me12:16
davidanyone in here sucessfully install Cedega CVS?12:17
zukalkbut it does kill Gaim?12:17
SeamusLPYeah12:17
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zukalkhm, so at least i'm not alone12:17
matthew_wDo I need an MP3 plugin for Beep Media Player?  It hangs when I play them.12:18
SeamusLPProbably some issue with the implementation of the plugin, or some gnome-panel bug12:18
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davidmatthew_w, yah: gstreamer0.8-mad12:19
SeamusLPzukalk:  Aha, try loading gaim from the command line and doing killall gnome-panel12:19
TuxicitySeveas, it says "eth0: 100baseTX-FD, link OK" but I cant PING anything at all!12:19
SeamusLPzukalk:  Looks like an issue with gaim itself12:20
zukalkSeamusLP: oh yeah, nice one12:20
steven_saveas and david, your 'sed' command did fix my problem.  thanks to both of you.12:21
SeamusLPIt may be already fixed, you should try getting the latest version from gaim.sourceforge.net12:21
caonexcan anybody tell me how to read a kernel image and be able to see the kernel it belongs to.12:21
zukalkSeamusLP, too lazy for that, i'll wait till it's in the repositories ;)12:22
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matthew_wHey, I installed that gstreamer, but beep media player still hangs, ideas?12:23
SeamusLPzukalk, looks like you'll be waiting for breezy then12:23
zukalkSeamusLP, i don't mind waiting :)12:23
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zukalkonly 4 months left anyway12:24
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TuxicityHow come I cant PING anything, but my network adapter seems to be detected?12:24
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Seveasmatthew_w, change the output plugin of beep to esound12:24
SeveasTuxicity, do you have an ip address?12:24
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quamif he's here, he has an ip address :p12:25
TuxicitySeveas, well i defined it myself (static IP)12:25
concept10someone help please: I keep getting this while trying to extract some tars gzip: stdin: unexpected end of file12:25
concept10tar: Child returned status 112:25
davidsteven_, no problem12:25
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SeamusLPhe has multiple boxes, I think, quam.12:25
seth_kconcept10: corrupt file probably12:25
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SeveasTuxicity, and you cannot even ping your router?12:25
concept10I get that from CLI and Archive manager12:25
quamseamus: yeah i wasn't exactly paying attention to the full conversation :p12:25
TuxicitySeveas, mii says "link OK"12:26
magnumbiHi everyone, is anyone having problems with the Ubuntu apt repositories today?  I keep getting failures due to mismatched MD5 sums.12:26
TuxicitySeveas, no I cant ping router or anything!12:26
seth_kmagnumbi, see topic12:26
Miksmm, does somebody know how can i add some email inbox monitor in the gnome panel?12:26
SeamusLPmagnumbi:  check out /topic12:26
Seveasconcept10, download the file againt it's corrupt12:26
concept10seth_k, everyfile I download I am getting those errors. Do you think I need to reinstall tar?12:26
Seveasmagnumbi: To switch to a working mirror type the following:  sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update12:26
magnumbiSesamusLP - Thanks12:26
dennisdennis@ubuntu:~$ cvscedega12:26
dennisbash: cvscedega: command not found12:26
dennis:(12:26
seth_kconcept10, where are you getting it from? probably just corrupt in general12:26
matthew_wAnother thing, why is my laptop so unbearably quiet, even with volume at max12:26
caonexi am having problems with apt and some kernel images: linux-image-2.6.10-5-38612:26
caonex linux-image-2.6.11-1-38612:26
caonex. It says they cannot be installed and give me the same error everytime i use apt-get, any ideas?12:26
caonexhow to solve it?12:27
KarlosIIhmm new release of freeciv is pending http://www.freeciv.org/index.php/NEWS-2.0.212:27
matthew_w(didn't happen back when I had windoze on it, so it's not the laptop)12:27
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Seveascaonex, md5sum mismatch?12:27
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magnumbiSeamusLP: Thanks again12:27
concept10seth_k, downloaded ndiswrapper 1.1.tar.gz from the projects sourceforce site12:27
dennisI just installed cedegacvs12:27
dennisthen did dennis@ubuntu:~$ cvscedega12:27
dennisbash: cvscedega: command not found12:27
dennis:/12:27
moquistany advice on how to fix the perl "setting locale failed" warnings?  the locale package is installed...12:27
syntaxerror64what is the difference between mkfs and mke2fs?12:27
SeamusLPKarlosII:  What's new in this release -- awesome 3d graphics?12:27
concept10is ndiswrapper 1.1 avail in the normal repos?12:28
seth_kno12:28
KarlosIIseamus12:28
seth_kconcept10, and then tar -xvzf ndiswrapperblahblah.tar.gz ?12:28
djm62syntaxerror64: mkfs can make several different filesystems, it's just a wrapper12:28
KarlosIIhttp://freeciv.org/~jdorje/amplio.png12:28
Seveassyntaxerror64, mkfs can make other filesystem types too...12:28
djm62(I think...)12:28
Seveasdjm62, good thinking :)12:28
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syntaxerror64Seveas, djm62: thank you12:28
moquistsyntaxerror64: it's in the mkfs man-page12:29
moquist(what Seveas and djm62 said)12:29
SeamusLPKarlosII:  Isometric, good enough12:29
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KarlosIIwho is it that handles backports12:29
SeveasKarlosII, JohnDong12:29
seth_kconcept10, try this link: http://voxel.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper-1.2.tar.gz12:29
caonexSeveas, i do not think so, it just says that oculd not create initrd image.12:29
seth_kconcept10, then tar -xvzf ndiswrapper-1.2.tar.gz12:29
penguinpartyWhat does it mean If I get an MD5Sum mismatch error when doing an apt-get install12:30
Seveascaonex, ehw...12:30
KarlosIISeveas, ah12:30
Seveascaonex, DO NOT reboot12:30
seth_kpenguinparty, see /topic12:30
penguinpartyhow do I get that package anyways12:30
Seveaspenguinparty: To switch to a working mirror type the following:  sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update12:30
KarlosIISeveas, is package src into a deb pretty easy?12:30
KarlosII<grins>12:30
caonexSeveas, the same thing happened to my dad and he rebooted but luckly i had another image compiled.12:30
djm62penguinparty: it means that the md5sum is not taken from the archive you're downloading...it may or may not be a problem12:30
Seveasyeah, have another image ready12:30
caonexSeveas, how can i fix that?12:31
Seveasand file a bug report about this error12:31
Seveascaonex, ENOIDEA12:31
matthew_wWhich plugin do I use to play wmv, avi, mpg, etc. movies for totem (additionally, for DVD's)12:31
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penguinpartydjm62: so how do I fix it? Im using a canadian mirror12:31
seth_kpenguinparty: sudo sed -e 's/ca.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update12:32
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caonexSeveas, i am compiling 11.11 now. Look i am using the image for my dad but his realtek card does not seem to respond but can be configured and read using network-admin. I compiled its driver built-in, however, it does not seem to work, anything i might have missed?12:32
djm62penguinparty: what you're being told, I guess12:32
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caonexSeveas, i did not install anything for ppp since his connection is broadband (cable)12:32
penguinpartydosent that defeat the idea of a mirror? removing the ca. host?12:32
caonexSeveas, should i have?12:32
SpugIs there some way to free RAM or swap?12:33
kvidellpenguinparty: Well... when the mirrors are down, what choice do you have? :)12:33
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SpugSomething must be hogging12:33
moquistSpug: kill processes12:33
moquist;)12:33
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SpugI have12:33
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SpugIt's not going down12:33
penguinpartykvidell: I think that the ca mirror is up . . . just this one package md5sum dosnt work. . . I just pulled a bunch of other stuff from it12:33
moquistSpug: oh.  run 'top' and sort by memory usage?12:34
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SpugI think something has hogged some RAM or swap space and then not freed it when it was done12:34
Spugor somethinf12:34
Spugg12:34
drummer87hi all, i have enabled backports and update-notifier wants to upgrade 44 packages.. should i let it if they're from backports?12:34
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defzhrm, topic might have solved my problem12:34
Guybrush|Numbgood evening everybody12:34
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kvidellFirefox adopion estimates are up to 8%12:35
kvidellgo firefox, go!12:35
moquistSpug: but it's the kernel that should free memory when a process ends, even if that process leaked the memory12:35
|QuaD-_anyone here use the ubuntu hula packages?12:35
defzis there an easy way to get my apt-get stuff from archive instead of us.archive?12:35
kvidellyay hula. *is novell certified*12:35
djm62penguinparty: if the package won't install, it's a problem, but more likely the md5sum hasn't been regenerated and it will be if you give it some time12:35
Spugmoquist: hmm :/12:35
seth_kdjm62, if you notice /topic, us mirror is having issues, and ca mirror is the same machine as us mirror12:36
drummer87are the backports packages ok to use normally? or are they only for if one want's something specific?12:36
dooglusSpug, do this:    ps -lef | sort +9n | tail12:36
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seth_kdjm62, so moving to http://archive.ubuntu.com is the answer for now12:36
dooglusit will show you the 10 biggest processes12:36
penguinparty ok thanks12:36
Alia25Ohh so many people in here :)12:36
doogluswhat's the last one?12:36
Alia25How nice..12:37
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davidis there something wrong when it takes more than 45 minutes to compile something12:37
dooglusdavid: depends what the something is12:37
djm62seth_k: cheers...12:37
defzdo i just comment all my us.archive lines in my sources.list?12:37
davidits dx9wine12:37
matthew_wHello, Totem doesn't want to run movie files, any ideas?12:37
dooglusdavid: do you see the compilation making progress?12:38
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dooglusmatthew_w: movie files aren't executable.12:38
matthew_wExcuse me then, totem doesn't want to open movie files... any ideas12:38
Alia25I'm trying to install ubuntu on my other machine since i love it so on this one, but when the partitioning starts it ends up to 33% and gives this error that it cannot write filesystem table.12:38
daviddooglus, it's hidden, the script just has little tips that keeps showing12:38
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dooglusdavid: I never tried compiling that.  I don't know if 45 minutes is reasonable or not.12:39
|QuaD-_kvidell: so do you use hula?12:39
dooglusI've seen kernel compiles take over an hour before though12:39
Rochamatthew_w, install totem-xine12:39
daviddooglus, have u ever compiled wine?12:39
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defzOk, I'm trying to apt-get mplayer-586.  It depends on libgii.  However, libgii is only available on us.archive.ubuntu.com and its broken.  So how do I finish the installation?12:40
dooglusdavid: no, I've never got anything useful from wine at all.  I've tried 3 times now, but it just crashes each time12:40
david:(12:40
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maedefz: use a different archive make jujst archive.ubuntu.com instead of us.archive.ubuntu.com us is borked for some reason12:40
defzlibgii isn't showing up on archive.ubuntu.com12:41
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maedid you do apt-get update?12:41
defzyeah12:41
maehmm12:41
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maedo you have marillat repo?12:41
defzno12:41
maehmm i thought mplayer was only on marillat12:42
seth_kit's called libgii0, and is in main12:42
seth_khttp://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/libs/libgii012:42
Gskilletdoes anyone know why my wireless card seems to be renamed something different on every reboot?  eth1, wifi0, wlan0?12:42
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maeGskillet: computer ghost12:42
seth_kAlia25, maybe try a chkdsk /f in Windows12:42
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seth_kAlia25, sounds like a deeper problem than just Ubuntu12:43
wartynick?12:43
Alia25seth_k, the thing is the partinioning started so there are no os on the machine, so i can't chkdsk12:43
maeAlia25: is this after wiping out the partition table and starting anew or is this just a freeze/error in the installer?12:43
maruko`can i install ubuntu on a partition with data on it?12:44
Alia25mae, it starts, but error stops the installer after 33%12:44
seth_kAlia25, maybe boot from some sort of disk like the System Rescue CD and do a long format12:44
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lonewolffmaruko`: do you want to keep the data thats on it?12:44
moquistAlia25: if you're comfortable on the command line you can overwrite the partition table with dd (I'm sure there are other ways to do it, but that's the one I use)12:44
wartymay?12:45
}x{|CeRbErUshow do u send a message directly to all your ssh users on your server???12:45
maruko`lonewolff, yes12:45
maeAlia25: probably an issue with the new installer on that hardware. look at the boot options on the installer setup.. i think its f5 or something like that.. try acpi=off12:45
lonewolffmaruko`: then no, it would not be good to install to the same partition12:45
}x{|CeRbErUsLike when it says: "The system is going down for a reboot NOW!"12:45
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}x{|CeRbErUshow do u manually send such a message to al users active on the system12:45
Alia25mae, Hey now, i'm not that technical :D12:45
maruko`lonewolff, why ? the file is the linuxkernel2.6.11 and it's a pain to download again because I'm only on dialup12:46
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maeAlia25: well sometimes you gotta be :) linux isn't that polished yet, just give it a shot, when it says "press enter to boot" try this option: acpi=off12:46
maethen hit enter12:46
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Alia25mae, ok.. one sec :D12:46
maeacpi is still buggy12:46
Alia25don't go anywhere :D12:46
lonewolffmaruko`: the installer formats your partitions by default im sure12:46
maruko`lonewolff, cant i just skip the parition/format part ?12:47
moquistmae: you really think acpi would have something to do with a partitioning problem?  could be, but I wouldn't have guessed so myself.12:47
djm62maruko`: you could resize and create a spare partition, shift your data onto that, and install ubuntu on the rest12:47
maemoquist: She said it stops at 33 percent.. i'm just guessing it is something buggy in the kernel.. thats all. acpi is a logical place to start trying it out :)12:48
matthew_wPossible to play .wmv files in Linux?12:48
xirtami have dependencie problem doing an upgrade from debian/sid to ubuntu ... python2.4-pyorbit cannot be installed ... dpkg returns an error code (1) ... any ideas about that?12:48
Alia25ahh crap, where is =? hehe12:48
maruko`is there any tool on linux to merge to partitions?12:48
maruko`is there any tool on linux to merge two partitions?12:48
djm62matthew_w: yeah, you can use mplayer12:48
MobyTurbomatthew_w, mplayer or vlc12:48
matthew_wIs there a plugin for xine, so I don't have to have 4502 video players?12:48
maemoquist: i've had some fairly odd problems with the installer myself, alot have been ironed out but sometimes it just fails for no reason.. many times it is the kernel.. local apic and acpi are still buggy .. not stable yet..and they are enabled in the default kernel12:48
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djm62maruko`: I don't think so, but you can resize partitions, and destroy them, and achieve the same effect12:48
maeAlia25: at the command line just try "acpi=off" without the quotes12:49
maethen hit enter12:49
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djm62maruko`: assuming you have enough space to play with, which I know isn't everyone12:49
maei doubt it will do anything but its worth a shot :O)12:49
moquistAlia25: at the boot "command line", that is.12:49
defz*sighs* i downloaded the libgii packages, but it doesn't work12:49
Alia25mae: hmm: "could not find kernel image: acpi=off"12:49
defzi just want to watch a damn movie :/12:49
maeack12:49
maewhats the syntax12:49
maemmm12:49
maehold on a sec ok12:50
maeyour using the 5.04 livecd right?12:50
Alia25yes12:50
lonewolffdo you not just add noacpi to the end of the kernel boot line in grub12:50
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moquistAlia25: and if that doesn't work I'd recommend overwriting your partition table completely.  speak up if you want to try that and I'll try to talk you through it.12:50
maeAlia25: try "noacpi"12:50
Alia25same mae12:51
xirtamis there a way to force apt-get to install a certain package even on dependency problems?12:51
maruko`djm62, so ill split my reiserfs parition into partition a and b ? then afterwards delete parition a? and then parition a will merge to parition b?12:51
Alia25only this time its for the noacpi :D12:51
maruko`partition*12:51
moquistAlia25: try 'linux acpi=off'12:51
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maeAlia25: sorry its pci=noacpi12:52
moquistmae: or that.  :-D12:52
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maeAlia25: actually try all this on one line mineaswell turn off all the buggy stuff: "noapic nolapic pci=noacpi"12:52
Alia25no actually, moquist where right12:52
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djm62maruko`: you'll shrink your reiserfs partition, then create a new partition in the space, shift your data to the new partition, forget about it for the install (just don't overwrite it), then shift it to wherever you want on the new install, delete the new partition, and expand the old one12:52
confreyhi everybody12:53
maruko`how do i exand ? what tool should i use ?12:53
maemoquist: acpi=off is a kernel parameter i know that but i think pci=noacpi is for the ubuntu initrd parameter..12:53
maruko`parted ?12:53
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djm62maruko`: yeah...I think any partitioning tool can do that12:53
drummer87does someone know if it's ok to upgrade packages from backports?12:53
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black13can dpkg install individual pakages to a directory12:54
djm62maruko`: but it does depend on you having enough space for that, I'm afraid12:54
maruko`i only have 8gb12:54
drummer87(ie from ubuntu version to ubp version12:54
drummer87)12:54
maeAlia25: ya it looks like you do need the "linux" preceding the parameters12:54
maruko`the backupfiles are only 185mb12:54
maei just tested it12:54
maeAlia25: any luck?12:54
djm62maruko`: ubuntu is only a couple of gig... that'll be find :)12:54
djm62and fine12:54
JDahlblack13, dpkg installs packages in the standard directories, you cant change that12:54
seth_kdrummer87: backports version numbers are set so that anything in main repos that is >= is newer than them. So equal main and backports packages, package in official server should win12:55
maruko`djm62, thanks12:55
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Alia25mae, nope :(12:55
drummer87seth_k, 45 of them aren't winning.. (?!?)12:55
black13JDahl, so i cant say dpkg a libc to /some/dir12:56
djm62you get the space back, you might need a parted boot disk (or any boot CD with parted) for a couple of bits...read up and plan it out to keep yourself right12:56
seth_kdrummer87, give me an example version number set?12:56
Alia25Couldn't create ext3-filesystem on partition #1 on IDE1 master (hda)12:56
moquistAlia25: wanna try overwriting your partition table?12:56
maeAlia25: try wiping out the entire partition table and starting from scratch.. i think the "automatic" option will do that.12:56
JDahlblack13, that's correct12:56
Alia25moquist, love too if you show me :)12:56
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moquistAlia25: are you not already using teh "automatic" partitioning option?12:56
drummer87gaim, file roller, acroread, gnome-menus, and others12:56
confreyI have installed breezy, but X doesn't start; the last part of Xorg.0.log says : could not open default font 'fixed'; and before : fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/usr/share/X11/fonts/misc and so on12:57
Alia25moquist, hum?12:57
seth_kdrummer87, you're running hoary?12:57
drummer87seth_k, yes12:57
maeAlia25: with the partitioner do you choose the "automatic" option or do you do it manually12:57
seth_kconfrey: check Breezy forum on http://ubuntuforums.org12:57
moquistAlia25: when it asks you about partitioning, do you tell it where to put which partitions on which disk and what to mount where, or do you jsut go with the default option?12:57
black13JDahl, then make a chroot install to that ?12:57
Alia25automatically12:57
seth_kconfrey: TONS of threads about that, easy to solve12:57
maehm12:57
maruko`djm62, lots of thanks. you just saved me from days of download12:57
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seth_kdrummer87, hoary doesn't have newer packages than backports, so backports packages will install12:57
moquistmae: do you know if the VTs are available at install-time?  I think so but I'm not 100% positive...12:58
seth_kdrummer87, once you upgrade to breezy backports packages should be replaced12:58
djm62maruko`: I've been on narrow pipes myself ;)12:58
moquistAlia25: hang on; I'm going to check something12:58
matthew_wHey - xine is having a hard time opening DVD's... I get "Error reading NAV packet"... ?12:58
maemoquist: ya i think so.. i could check real fast12:58
maruko`hey about the warthog live cd... how many space is available in the /root ??12:58
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drummer87seth_k, should i let the backports updates go ahead, even though they're unofficial?12:58
maruko`i just saved 100+mb in there12:58
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seth_kdrummer87, sure, backports are safe. don't use them if you don't want to update from them :D12:59
JDahlblack13, hmm... that might work, but I think you can screw up the apt database12:59
djm62maruko`: you saved to the live cd?12:59
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drummer87thanks, seth_k12:59
black13JDahl, how do you mean?12:59
moquistmae: available if you switch and hit ENTER, right?12:59
JDahlblack13, dependencies, upgrades/removal etc12:59
matthew_wAdditionally, is there a way to make it so the default app for DVD's is XINE and not Totem?12:59
Alia25moquist, he left12:59
maruko`djm62, i saved some files to root's folder.. im booting from the live cd now12:59
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confreyseth_k, thanks01:00
moquistAlia25: oh.  well, i found out what I needed to know, anyway.01:00
seth_kconfrey, if you can't find it, hit me up and I'll go find you the thread :)01:00
bassplayermy ubuntu totem does'nt play any video file ? i already installed the m32 codecs, can anybody help me!01:00
djm62maruko`: it's just in RAM I think... the liveCD is write-only01:00
maruko`read-only01:00
moquistAlia25: do you know how many hard drives this system has?  does it have only one, and are you installing Ubuntu on it?  I'm assuming so, but we need to be sure.01:00
djm62and that ;)01:00
Alia25moquist, 101:01
maruko`ok01:01
moquistAlia25: type Alt+F2 and hit ENTER01:01
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black13JDahl, i am using deboostrap01:01
moquistAlia25: (the plus sign isn't literal, in case that isn't clear)01:01
maruko`what's the difference between ubuntu and debian?01:01
dennisCan someone help me install cedega ...im lost ;(01:01
Alia25moquist, on the boot: command line?01:01
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moquistAlia25: oh, just hit ENTER on the boot command line01:01
djm62maruko`: if you have a swap partition, I think it uses that, so you aren't limited by physical ram01:02
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moquistAlia25: and then as soon as the next screen comes up hold down ALT and hit F201:02
maruko`djm62, oh ok..01:02
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Mezevening all01:02
dennisCan anyone help me install cedega?01:02
dennisI'm having problems...01:02
xolotl_can anyone tell me how to decipher what /dev/dsp is linked to - I've got a dual sound card setup and both are fairly complex - what does attach to???01:02
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daviddennis, whats up01:02
djm62maruko`: ubuntu is more user oriented, and less concerned about absolute correctness01:03
wc_nixanybody here?01:03
Mezdennis - assuming you've paid for cedega, then you should be able to get support from them01:03
dennispm?01:03
wc_nixi'm using irssi and it's all i can use atm01:03
bassplayermy ubuntu totem does'nt play any video file ? i already installed the m32 codecs, can anybody help me!01:03
daviddennis, k01:03
djm62as in, packages can be in ubuntu within 6 months ;)01:03
wc_nixfor some reason i rebooted and now X11 wont start01:03
moquistwc_nix: irssi is all you need, dude!  ;)01:03
wc_nixheh01:03
wc_nixi dont know what to do about X1101:03
wc_nixit wont open01:03
wc_nixhow do you change windows in irssi01:03
seth_kwc_nix, using breezy?01:03
moquistwc_nix: did you upgrade your kernel?01:04
wc_nixbreezy?01:04
Alia25moquist, hmm ok now i'm at the first screen of partitioning.01:04
moquistwc_nix: CTRL+n and CTRL+p is one way01:04
wc_nixit was working great, then i rebooted01:04
moquistAlia25: did you hold down ALT and type F2 yet?01:04
dooglusseth_k: X is fine in breezy at the moment01:04
Mezwc_nix, did you get any error messages?01:04
seth_kdooglus: i know, I'm running it :P01:04
wc_nixit just said it couldnt open it01:04
Alia25moquist, yes after i hit enter on the boot: line01:04
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seth_kdooglus, but the upgrades can throw things off01:04
wc_nixlast thing I did was make an attempt to install WINE01:04
moquistAlia25: so now you have a prompt that looks like this: ~ #01:05
moquistAlia25: right?01:05
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Mezwcnix - try running01:05
Alia25moquist, no.. in the installer01:05
Mezsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:05
wc_nixi tried startx01:05
moquistAlia25: pm?01:05
Alia25sure01:05
Mezand make sure you have X setup properly01:05
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hodgepodgecan anyone give me advice on what the best gui based cd burning package is?  It's not obvious to me how to properly use cdrecord to burn an iso file (plus speeds, buffers, etc.) ugh.01:05
wc_nixMez can you PM that to me?01:05
dooglushodgepodge: k3b01:05
wc_nixpor favor01:05
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wc_nixi dunno why xorg would have gotten messed up01:06
wc_nixi wish i could use mouse in command line01:06
wc_nixi'd copy/paste the error(s001:06
nemikhehe01:06
djm62hodgepodge: if you just want data, you can use nautilus01:06
bassplayermy ubuntu totem does'nt play any video file ? i already installed the m32 codecs, can anybody help me ?01:06
bpucciohodgepodge: you can also try gnomebaker and graveman01:07
wc_nixwhen i do startx, the nvidia logo flickers on the screen goes black01:07
wc_nixthen it flickers nvidia logo again01:07
wc_nixthen screen goes black01:07
wc_nixAH01:07
hodgepodgethanks all01:07
djm62hodgepodge: k3b is good, and gnomebaker has always worked for me01:07
nemikman the ubuntu server edition is awesome01:07
ice_1963i have k3b but then i use mepis01:07
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nemikmy *10 second daemon runs so nice and stably01:07
nemiknot like on gnome....:shudder:01:08
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djm62nemik: what do you need precisely 10s for?01:08
nemikwell the box is hooked up to a GSM phone and queries it for new SMS's that came in01:09
dooglusseth_k: can you "apt-get install k3b" in breezy?01:09
seth_kdooglus: nope, not yet01:09
wc_nixclear01:09
wc_nixoops01:09
kvidellhehe01:09
seth_kdooglus: it still depends on old kdelibs01:09
seth_kinstead of kdelibsc201:09
nemikand then takes the ones that came in and processes them in a shell script (extracts the number it came from and message) and then passes those to a PHP script01:09
hodgepodgeok, will try k3b.  thanks agn01:09
dooglusseth_k: right.  should that be reported somewhere?01:09
seth_kdooglus, bug already filed. want me to chase it up for you?01:09
wc_nixgiw embarassing01:10
Mezseth_k, it prob just needs recompiling thats all01:10
wc_nixhow*01:10
wc_nix:-(01:10
dooglusseth_k: not really - just found there was a problem and wanted to make sure it was known about.  where did you file it?01:12
LMXim trying to setup this computer (using ubuntu) as a router but when i try to start firestarter i get an error msg saying: Failed to load the firewall, The device ppp0 is not ready.01:12
seth_kubuntu bugzilla, dooglus, but i didn't file01:12
LMXeven though im using it right now01:12
seth_ksomebody else did01:12
LMXanyone knows what i should do?01:12
dooglusseth_k: I'd like some clarification on https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11488 if possible though01:12
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seth_kdooglus: breezy, hoary, same place. You just file under the package name that's giving you issues01:12
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seth_kMez, of course. but nobody has done it yet01:12
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seth_kand I already got boinked once for packaging apps that are already in repos by Corey01:13
seth_kso I'm gunshy01:13
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dooglusseth_k: breezy and hoary go to the same place, right - but what about universe and multiverse packages?01:14
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Mezseth ... if theres a bug, then you're allowed to rebuild as  long as you can find someone to sponsor your package :D01:14
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seth_kMez, meh. I would go do it but I'm sure you already are :D01:16
Alia25hum hum where is all the ops at?01:16
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seth_kAlia25, i think they go incognito unless needed01:16
MezI forgot what apcakge you were on about, adn to be honest, I cant be bothered :D01:16
ubuntuhola01:16
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ubuntumi nombres es robert01:16
MezI'm sure a dev will pick up the bug01:16
seth_kMez, :D01:16
bassplayermy ubuntu totem does'nt play any video file ? i already installed the m32 codecs, can anybody help me ?01:17
ubuntusoy chileno y necesito ayuda en espaol01:17
seth_kMez, it's not a universe package01:17
Alia25seth_k, so can they just reop themselves? never been to this net before :D01:17
wc_nixlol01:17
airxdresubuntu, en ingles aca men01:17
ubuntuok01:17
ubuntugracias01:17
Mezseth_k, so? the only package I've built for breezy (and had accepted) is in main01:17
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seth_kwhen I blow something up, you're guilty :D01:17
seth_kI'll go try it now01:17
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maewhich package satisfies this requirement: xorg bombs out and tells me "could open default font 'fixed';"01:17
seth_kAlia25, I believe that is how it works01:17
Mezlol - if you need a hand ask me01:18
maeI am using breezy01:18
Mezbut MAKE SURE YOU DEBSIGN IOT01:18
seth_kmae, check ubuntuforums.org01:18
MezIT *01:18
seth_kmae, breezy forum. There's about 6 threads on this01:18
stianhhey guys, how can I display partitions on a drive, and what is the name of the type for a ntfs partition? is it just ntfs? I've installed ntfs filesystem support01:18
Alia25seth_k, ohh shoot, so you can just op yourself and ban me at any time? hehe01:18
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Mezoh, and seth, if you're going to package stuff, i suggest you join -devel and -motu01:18
bassplayermy ubuntu totem does'nt play any video file ? i already installed the m32 codecs, can anybody help me ?01:18
seth_kAlia25, i'm not an op :P01:19
maeAlia25: did you get your installation going?01:19
seth_kAlia25, we need more Ubuntu women, why ban them?01:19
seth_kMez, fine fine01:19
Alia25mae, no me and moquist is working on it in private01:19
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decafbassplayer: you need some gstreamer plugins, such as ffmpeg and mad01:19
airxdressome problems of breezy were fixed ?01:19
Mezyeah, the ops dont op themselves unless it;s needed - just to keep a feeling of "equality" within the channel I think01:19
Mezwhat you need an op for01:19
IIIEarsubotu forums is ""http://ubuntuforums.org/""01:19
ubotuokay, IIIEars01:19
seth_kYep, channel temperature01:19
bassplayerdecaf: and how do i get them ?01:19
seth_kbtw Mez, are you op on #kubuntu now?01:20
wc_nixthis sucks01:20
wc_nixstupid nix01:20
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decafbassplayer: add universe and multiverse repositories, install gstreamer0.8-*01:20
Mezyeah, I'm a #kubuntu op01:21
IIIEarsubotu ubuntu is Open the gates To East and West Bring in all That's good and best. - Lenrie Peter01:21
ubotuokay, IIIEars01:21
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synd!synd01:21
ubotusomebody said synd was a badass01:21
synd:>01:21
morfeoone software for ftp-server, please?01:21
IIIEarssynd is a badass? -;)01:21
defzanyone else find it odd that so many people can't get a simple thing like video to work in ubuntu?01:21
bassplayerdecaf: oh... i'm kind of noob on this...can you explain me how do i make that ?01:22
djm62defz: this is a self-selecting group of people with problems...01:22
decafbassplayer: try ubuntuguide.org01:22
defzdjm62: i've been trying to get video to work all day01:22
synddefz: no01:22
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defzand im hitting barriers at every step of the process01:22
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djm62defz: can you restate your problem for me?01:22
stianhHey, I've got "/dev/hda1       /windows        ntfs    defaults,ro,user        0       0" in my fstab, /windows is read/write/execute for all, so I should have acces, but when I mount I don't have read access for any user01:23
J35U5whats a good dvd ripping program?01:23
syndJ35U5: gnome baker01:23
decafbassplayer: if you teach me play fretless bass, I can make your computer play every video file :)01:23
djm62defz: I thought you were speaking from the other side of the table...ubuntu works properly for me, and it's a bit depressing to see so many people with problems...01:23
syndJ35U5: k3d is decent too01:23
morfeoone software for ftp-server, please?01:23
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Mezstianh: try /dev/hda1       /windows        ntfs    umask=0222      0       001:24
J35U5thanks synd ill check em out.01:24
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luke_hey can someone help me with "alsa"?01:24
Demitarmorf3o, proftpd?01:24
defzTrying to install MPlayer.  I do it through apt-get, it says I can't get libgii because of md5sum problems.  Supposedly its because of us.archives.ubuntu.com being broken.  So I remove us.archives from my sources.list and libgii isn't found in any of the other repositories.  I read the forums and a lot of people say 'no, apt-get MPlayer is broken, install from source' so I do that.  Now its being picky about my libpng.  So I try to apt-get that.  Also broken.01:24
defzI'm ready to toss my PC out the window.01:24
seth_kdefz, don't remove us.archives01:24
IIIEarsdjm2 - Ubuntu is great! - Easier to install than Windows more flexible than a Mac.01:24
defzremove/comment01:24
seth_kdefz, just change all us.archives to just archives.01:24
morf3othx01:25
defzi commented them out and left archives.ubuntu.com in there01:25
syndJ35U5: oh, you said DVD ripper, not burner, correct?01:25
seth_kdefz, http://pastebin.com, can I see your sources.list?01:25
luke_hey can some one help me, i cant get sound01:25
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IIIEars16,000 available apps and more added every day.01:25
djm62defz: you might be best to wait for the archive to sort itself out...01:25
MezSeveas, ping01:25
J35U5yeah01:25
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luke_....01:26
luke_....01:26
luke_...01:26
defzpastebin.com is broken :)01:26
syndJ35U5: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#dvdrip01:26
djm62IIIEars: yeah, and I think it's probably impossible to make it work perfectly for everyone...it's great for me01:26
defzlike everything else today01:26
synddefz: use pastebin.ca01:26
J35U5thanks again lol01:26
seth_ksynd, sorry :S01:26
TwitchI need some quick help setting my monitor up for it's specific settings01:26
stianhMez, thanks, your suggestion worked :)01:26
Mez:D01:26
Twitchinstead of using the generic monitor settings01:26
Mezood to hear01:26
Meztwitch - run the command01:27
wc_nixi'm so screwed01:27
IIIEarsdjm62 - It is an amazing thing for or an old windows user to tweak sorce code. :)01:27
Mezsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:27
TwitchMez: could you be a little more specific?01:27
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MezTwicth - command above01:27
djm62IIIEars: it's more amazing for an old-time linuxer not to have to ;)01:27
Mezsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:27
Twitchmez: ah ok thank you01:27
IIIEarsheh - as you might imagine for me it means a lot of double checking for errors. ;)01:27
Mezmdz ... ping ?01:28
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defzseth_k: http://pastebin.ca/1419201:28
mdzMez: ?01:28
Mezcan you add about us archive to topic ?01:28
Mezplease01:28
J35U5vote for pedro!01:28
IIIEarspedro?01:29
seth_kMez, it is already01:29
kvidellHAHAHA01:29
seth_kMez, look at third item01:29
Twitchnapoleon dynamite01:29
Mez(sorry to disturb you mdz - you're the only op)01:29
kvidellGOSH!01:29
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Mezoh01:29
Mezdamn I'm blind01:29
Mezsorry matt!01:29
J35U5i flipping hate you.01:29
seth_kdefz, see all those lines with http://us.archive.ubuntu.com ?01:29
IIIEarsHi kveidell! - How is it going?01:29
seth_kdefz, change them all to http://archive.ubuntu.com01:29
kvidellNot too shabby.01:29
seth_kdefz, your problems will go away :D01:29
kvidellI need to buy the Napolean Dynamite DVD though01:29
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kvidellI haven't seen it in awhile.01:29
J35U5kvidell, watching it now lol01:30
kvidellnice :)01:30
defzseth_k: if they do01:30
defzi will drink a bottle of rum01:30
defzand do cartwheels down the street01:30
defznaked.01:30
Mezwhere do you live defz?01:31
defzminnesota01:31
morf3oDemitar, i installed proftpd..... and now how i start it?01:31
MezIwanna see if i can find someone with a camera by there01:31
seth_kdefz: um, on second thought, change those sources to http://nonaked.defz.com01:31
J35U5i can acctually play that white stripes song that plays in the begining.01:31
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kvidellAnyone know of a GUI Frontend for RSync? Sometiems I'm lazy and GUI stuff is nice.01:31
defzseth01:32
defzstill doing it01:32
defzer, its still trying to look at us.archives01:32
defzdamnit, i renamed the wrong file :)01:33
defzone sec01:33
Mezo_O01:33
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Mezdefz, in /etc/apt/sources.list just change all the us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com01:34
Mezand then do a sudo apt-get update01:34
Mezsudo apt-get clean01:34
defzwoooooo01:34
defzits working!01:34
seth_kstart dancing!01:34
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defzhahah01:34
kvidelldance monkey!01:34
kvidelldancing queen?01:34
seth_kLooks like they just turned off authentication on US archive, so problem worked around for now!01:34
seth_kdefz is already scaring people away :D01:35
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defznow i just need my sound to work :/01:36
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defzthats what i get for buying a fancy $500 audio card01:36
bpucciodefz: what sound card do you have?01:38
defzterratec ews88/mt01:38
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wc_nixstill cant get X11 to start01:39
wc_nix:-(01:39
defzeh, mplayer isnt showing any video, but thats probably just a codec issue01:39
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turnpike420anyone have experience with the ipw2200 and trying to connect to an access point that has WEP key enabled?01:40
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turnpike420I was nicely surprised when it was auto installed and I connected to an open wifi last week... now I'm trying to connect to home01:41
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djm62turnpike420: have you tried System->Administration->Networking01:44
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turnpike420djm62: yes, I'm on a thinkpad T42, the green LED for the wifi is also off at the moment01:44
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djm62turnpike420: have you got a command line up?01:45
turnpike420I do01:45
djm62what's ifconfig saying?01:45
denniswho here has installed cvscedega?01:46
turnpike420djm62: ifconfig says I have no ip01:47
turnpike420my wifi is my eth101:47
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djm62turnpike420: ifup eth1 says?01:48
turnpike420claims already up01:48
djm62iwconfig?01:48
IIIEarsdennis - I am really new to linux and interested in cedega. - talking to someone here on freenode in #cedega I heard that the 2.4 kernel is better for cedega. (something about a scheduler) is that true?01:48
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turnpike420djm62: it shows my ESSID correctly for "iwconfig eth1"01:49
djm62does it show a WEP key?01:49
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maeis there any way to downgrade from breezy to hoary01:49
turnpike420no, but /etc/network/interfaces does01:49
maebreezy is screwed right now :)01:50
sauldhi01:50
seth_kMae, why do you say that? I'm running it right now, fully updated01:50
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wc_nixdudes and dudetts01:51
wc_nixi fixed the problem01:51
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djm62try iwconfig eth1 key <whatever your key is>01:51
wc_nixi just reinstalled NVIDIA drivers once again01:51
maeseth_k: getting that fixed font deal :( i looked at forums.. they said to reinstall xfonts-base and then dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but to no avail.. same prob01:51
wc_nixand it worked01:51
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wc_nix:-D01:51
wc_nixremember that for future reference01:51
gnoobwhere are dudetts?01:51
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wc_nixdunno01:51
wc_nix:-(01:51
wc_nixwish i had one01:51
djm62turnpike420: try iwconfig eth1 key YOURKEY01:51
turnpike420djm62: yup, tried that too... had to use sudo of course01:51
djm62turnpike420: any messages (I presume no joy)01:52
turnpike420nothing returned to the screen upon entering that command01:52
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djm62which should indicate it's good...01:52
KarlosIImvg can somoene contact me please01:52
turnpike420I changed my WRT54G to Auto instead of Shared Key and at least I indicate a signal now...01:52
djm62dhclient eth1 ?01:53
turnpike420tried that too... failed before, but now that I show a signal, I'll try again01:53
seth_kmae, I'll PM you so as not to clog channel01:53
jbpeeleuh so what's going on with the nerim repositories?01:53
sauldhablas espa;ol01:53
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djm62jbpeele: see topic01:53
djm62sauld: try #ubuntu-es01:54
JohnnyQuesti need help with installing qt3 with multithreading01:54
jbpeeledjm62: i don't see anything pertaining to that01:54
sauldthank you!!! djm6201:54
turnpike420djm62: doens't seem to want to get a dhcp address01:54
jbpeelethe nerim repo doesn't use anything with ubuntu in its name01:55
turnpike420I know the ipw2200 has worked on an open WRT54G before... but that was at another location01:55
seth_kjbpeele: nerim repos shouldn't be used, use backports for stuff you want that would be in nerim01:55
jbpeeleseth_k: ok thanks, is this a recent change after the inclusion of the backports project?01:55
djm62turnpike420: what sort of error are you getting? timeout?01:55
seth_kjbpeele: well, backports has only recently started to carry the packages you'd need from nerim, like w32codecs01:56
seth_kjbpeele, so I guess yes01:56
djm62turnpike420: have you tried the same hardware under a different OS?01:56
jbpeeleok cool, thanks01:56
JohnnyQuesti need help with installing qt3 with multithreading01:56
turnpike420djm62: seems that way yes ... and ya, the T42 came with XP on it, I tested a few things quickly before intalling ubuntu01:56
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turnpike420djm62: my error is "no dhcpoffers received"01:57
_4strOmIRC v6.14 Khaled Mardam-Bey01:57
djm62is the router definitely completely open?  offering dhcp? not blocking MAC01:58
dennisHas anyone here installed cedegacvs?01:58
turnpike420djm62: my WRT54G has WEP on key 4, shared key, and mac allow list, and I've triple verififed the mac address is on the allow list correctly01:58
ubuntuHi, I am running Ubuntu from CD. How I can mount hard drive?01:59
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Andrilhello all01:59
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djm62turnpike420: is the MAC on the list allocated a specific IP?01:59
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turnpike420no, I allow it do get any IP in the dhcp range02:00
defzIs anyone here familiar with Envy24 audio card chipsets working in Ubuntu?02:00
turnpike420speaking of... my WRT54G doesn't actually give out the ip address... it's the dhcpd on my firewall that does my dhcp02:00
djm62?02:00
jbroomecan you look at the FW dhcp logs?02:00
gnoobhow well does ubuntu play as a dual boot with windows XP?  Maybe I should say that questiong backwards.  But you get the point.02:00
seth_kgnoob: fine, I'm doing it on two machines02:01
dennisgnoob, it does fine?02:01
dennisI'm doing it right now...02:01
gnoobcool02:01
djm62firewall<-->router<-->you  ?02:01
gnoobdoes well on laptops also?02:01
gnoobold dell02:01
seth_kgnoob, running it on a dell inspiron 600m right now and typing this message to you02:01
dennislol02:01
turnpike420ya, my WRT54G is just an AP and switch, nothing plugged into the "internet" port...02:02
dennisHAS ANYONE HERE INSTALLED CEDEGACVS??!!!!02:02
IIIEars(covers ears) pleease don't use caps here.02:02
jbroomedennis: since you've asked three times, at least.  I'm thinking no.02:02
dennislol02:02
dennisI need help :(02:02
jbroomeno shit02:02
djm62turnpike420: will a WRT54G pass on dhcp requests like that?  if you have a firewall, can you try with a fixed IP to check?02:02
darkdennis: try #cedega?02:02
IIIEarsdennis no luck in #cedega?02:03
turnpike420djm62: ya, it' sjust a switch... it has worked fine for many other clients this way02:03
jbroometurnpike420: i just had an idea..02:03
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turnpike420jbroome: ya?02:03
jbroomewe set up a wrt for a client that was doing just like you are, but we set a static route on the wrt54g that pointed back to the gateway/firewall02:04
defzcd /etc02:04
defzls02:04
gnoobcool, i may give it a shot02:04
defzerrr02:04
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jbroometurned of dhcp, etc on the wrt02:04
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turnpike420jbroome: dhcp is off on the wrt02:05
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turnpike420works perfectly for the wired... b/c I'm on it now... :p and it has always worked for XP and other linux folks here02:05
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jbroomestatic route02:05
turnpike420never needed before02:06
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GXT_23Nabend02:06
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GXT_23Gibt es einen Befhel mit dem ich bestimmte Ports unter Ubunut schlieen kann02:06
RotundAnyone actually get firefox-gnome-support to work?02:06
Rotunddo I have to build a new profile?02:06
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turnpike420djm62: the WRT54G is nothing more than a switch with AP on it... nothing fancy02:07
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sproingiekein deutsch sprechen hier, gehst du #ubuntu-de02:07
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WillySillyis there a way for me to see whats making inotify start?02:08
ubuntuLooks like no responce from anyone :( Still asking: i am running LiveCD how I can mount my own hdd to it?02:08
djm62turnpike420: I'm completely lost here, I'm afraid...can't think of anything to do that you haven't done02:08
LinuxJonesubuntu, have a look @ www.ubuntuguide.org (it depends on the partition types you have)02:09
Rotundubuntu: use mount02:09
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djm62turnpike420: unless...you use dhclient -s and specify the server IP02:10
turnpike420djm62: ya... so another has said as well... I'm a bit confused for sure... I can pull out my other really really old laptop and it connects (under winxp) no prob02:10
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djm62but I can't even exactly see where the problem is :-/02:10
wc_ubuntuhello02:10
wc_ubuntuaw crap i left wc_nix on02:10
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wc_ubuntuoh well, question: Anybody get VLC to work in Ubuntu?02:11
teresahello02:11
wc_ubuntui even used the apt engine and installed it02:11
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wc_ubuntuand VLC will not run02:11
IIIEarsVLC - works fine. :)02:11
Rotundwc_ubuntu: I haven't had problems02:11
wc_ubuntumine gives a stupid error02:11
IIIEars?02:11
Rotundwc_nix: i386 AND ppc02:11
wc_ubuntuVLC media player 0.8.1 Janus02:11
wc_ubuntuSegmentation fault02:11
Rotund=)02:11
wc_ubuntuis all it says02:11
wc_ubuntuwont open02:11
squirrelkilleris there a way to restore the default panel in gnome ?02:12
Rotundwc_ubuntu: wait... I think I HAVE seen that02:12
IIIEarswc_ubuntu - are you familiar with the strace command? - i am kind of new only used it once02:12
Rotundwc_ubuntu: in your home dir, do rm -rf .vlc02:12
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wc_ubuntunno02:12
wc_ubuntunever heard of strace02:13
RotundI think that happens when a bad theme is picked02:13
wc_ubuntuhome dir?02:13
wc_ubuntufor which account02:13
Rotundwhichever you are running it from02:13
wc_ubuntuoh02:13
wc_ubuntui did it02:13
wc_ubuntuand it still gives same error02:13
Rotunddarn02:13
turnpike420djm62: nope, no go, but I'm on the wired port of the WRT54G right now, so I know dhcp is ok... or I wouldn't be typing to you02:13
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WillySillyis there a way for me to see whats making inotify start?02:14
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wc_ubuntuIIIEars, i just did strace vlc02:14
wc_ubuntuand it stopped at this.02:14
wc_ubuntu--- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) @ 0 (0) ---02:14
wc_ubuntu+++ killed by SIGSEGV +++02:14
Rotundwc_ubuntu: what about "ldd /usr/bin/vlc"  what does that return?02:14
IIIEars!paste02:14
uboturumour has it, paste is ""http://ubuntu.pastebin.com http://pastebin.com or #flood here on freenode.""02:14
kfarrellHello, I zapped mu .XAutority file, and now I can't graphicaly sudo. Anyone know how I can replace this file?02:14
Madpilotafternoon, all. what's "getty", and why does it need to run six instances of itself on my machine?02:15
_dockane_how do i unmute myself in the linux teamspeak client ? had that problem with ubuntu on my laptop but cant remembe how i solved it02:15
djm62turnpike420: sounds to me like something you should take some time out from...I presume you have tried to find similar stuff on google?02:15
wc_ubuntuRotund, what am i looking for?02:15
wc_ubuntui did that command it it shows stuff02:15
RotundMadpilot: it's the login for all 6 virtual terminals02:15
wc_ubuntuit shows the dependencies02:15
Rotundwc_ubuntu: anything like "not found"?02:15
turnpike420djm62: ya, I'm gonna give up for now... gonna watch this "Into the West" on TNT... thanks for helping02:15
wc_ubuntuno02:15
wc_ubuntueverything's there02:15
IIIEarswc_ubuntu - strace is new to me. - really dont now what that error means. :/02:15
wc_ubuntui did a dependency thing earlier02:16
TokenBadwhat was command to install from a deb file again?02:16
djm62turnpike420: #ubuntu : technical AND spiritual support ;) good luck02:16
wc_ubuntuwith apt-get deb something02:16
wc_ubuntui have it in an alias02:16
WillySillyis there a way for me to see whats making inotify start?02:16
MadpilotRotund: OK, interesting. Google was not informative, and I've been poking around under the hood this afternoon...02:16
TokenBadI have the deb file on my drive already02:16
wc_ubuntuapt-get build-dep vlc02:16
wc_ubuntui ran that earlier02:16
turnpike420djm62: thanks...02:16
ubuntuLinuxJones: Thanks, I mounted it!02:16
IIIEarsTokenBad - Hi02:16
Rotundwc_ubuntu: The command I gave may point out an issue in the packaging of the file.02:17
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wc_ubuntui dont see any problems02:17
RotundMadpilot: yeah, it's not a problem.  Shouldn't take much memory anyways02:17
kfarrellDoes anyone know how to replace ones .XAuthority file in /root ?02:17
Rotundkfarrell: You shouldn't log in as root ;)02:17
Ownerooh, i have a virus, nice02:17
Ownererr02:17
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Amaranthstupid windows machine02:18
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kfarrellRotund: It's just so graphical sudo works02:18
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LinuxJonesubuntu, good stuff :)02:18
wc_ubuntubtw i was trying to install Crossover office02:18
wc_ubuntuand it gave me this02:18
wc_ubuntuGtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate loadable module in module_path: "libindustrial.so",02:18
WillySillyis there a way for me to see whats making inotify start?02:18
kfarrellI keep getting this error: Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.02:18
wc_ubuntuWillySilly, yes02:18
IIIEarsAmaranth - Arrgh! - you didn't actually connect windows to another machine did you? - ouch02:18
wc_ubuntuyou need to check the PID02:18
wc_ubuntulook for the Parent ID and you'll see what opened it02:19
wc_ubuntutype ps02:19
Zzzippowhere would I find modules for ethernet cards?02:19
MadpilotRotund: 0% of CPU, 1.5Mb each of memory - minute. just curious WRT the duplication02:19
kfarrellbah it's OK, I worked it out *8P02:19
TokenBadsup IIIEars02:19
TokenBadhow you doing?02:19
ubuntuWell, one more question, and what about extended partiotion?02:19
wc_ubuntuWillySilly, if you dont see it02:20
wc_ubuntutry ps -ef02:20
wc_ubuntuit'll show every process along with the IDs02:20
TokenBadIIIEars, what is command to install a deb file from local drive?02:20
wc_ubuntuand if you want to find just the thing you're looking for02:21
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wc_ubuntudo ps -ef | grep inotify02:21
wc_ubuntuhope that helps02:21
IIIEarsTokenBad - About the same. - poking about in C++ tutorials. - it's enough to drive an ex windows user giddy with exitement and profoundly confused. - lol02:21
massimociao02:21
IIIEarsTokenBad - dpkg -i <yourfile.deb>?02:21
TokenBadwooo02:22
TokenBadthat worked02:22
TokenBadthanks02:22
IIIEarsTokenBad - take a look at "alien" - nice02:22
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ubuntuLinuxJones: What options should I specify when mounting extended partition?02:23
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WillySillynothing02:24
WillySillydidnt show anything02:24
_dockane_oss / alsa -> confusing02:25
WillySillygrrr02:25
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wc_ubuntuit didnt?02:27
wc_ubuntuthen the program isnt open02:27
wc_ubuntu:-\02:27
WillySillynope02:27
wc_ubuntuif the program opens again, do what i told you, while the program is still open02:27
wc_ubuntuit wont work if you close it before doing what i said02:27
WillySillyEIP is at inotify_super_block_umount+0x55/0x10402:28
WillySillyEIP is at inotify_super_block_umount+0x55/0x10402:28
WillySilly [<c0166ed5>]  inotify_super_block_umount+0x55/0x10402:28
WillySillyEIP is at inotify_super_block_umount+0x55/0x10402:28
WillySilly [<c0166ed5>]  inotify_super_block_umount+0x55/0x10402:28
wc_ubuntu...02:28
WillySillythats what i get when i do dmesg | grep "inotify"02:28
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GskilletAnyone here used FakeAP before02:28
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teresaI have a doubt...   I have hoary and install CUPSD, but when I try send a page test no print02:29
LinuxJonesubuntu, you don't have to add anything special for an extended partition02:29
WillySillyslocate inotify02:29
WillySilly/dev/inotify02:29
WillySilly/dev/.udevdb/class@misc@inotify02:29
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WillySilly /sys/class/misc/inotify/dev02:29
WillySilly /sys/class/misc/inotify/dev02:29
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WillySilly /sys/class/misc/inotify02:29
teresaI have a doubt...   I have hoary and install CUPSD, but when I try send a page test no print, anybody can help me?02:29
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XandriXWillySilly, man what are u doing spamming like that02:29
razCould anyone tell me why some of my windows show up with fugly fonts? here's an exemple: http://rghandour.tripod.com/Screenshot.png02:30
IIIEars!cups02:30
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, IIIEars02:30
IIIEars!samba02:30
ubotuhmm... samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba02:30
J35U5teresa, is this a network printer?02:30
IIIEars!printing02:30
ubotuIIIEars: I don't know, could you explain it?02:30
j2dopedoes anyone know how i can get my wlan usb card (wifi card) workin with ubuntu?02:30
GskilletAnyone here used FakeAP before02:30
_drakeraz: gtk vs gtk202:30
teresaJ35U5, no, printer is in my parallel port...02:31
raz_drake, explain?02:31
J35U5go system>administration>printing.02:31
IIIEars(slaps self with a large fish)02:31
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J35U5see if it auto-detected.02:31
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_drakeraz: mplayer is built with gtk1 and everything else there is gtk2. you need to set your gtk1 fonts02:31
_drakeraz: gtk-theme-switch2 can change the fonts for gtk2 ---- gtk-theme-switch might beable to do it for gtk1 (im not possitive though)02:32
_drakeanyone use windowmaker?02:32
ubuntuLinuxJones: Well I worked it out, thx02:32
NinwaDoes anyone have a little time to help me troubleshoot a basic compilation problem? It's a game called stepmania, but the problem is generic. I run ./configure and it says it cannot find install-sh in ./autoconf, but it is in there.02:32
TokenBadhmm02:33
TokenBadI am confused02:33
teresaJ35U5, all is well (system>administration>printing) until try print a test page...02:33
TokenBadI did the setup of pureftp02:33
TokenBadbut can't locate it anywhere02:33
wc_ubuntuhey what is the name of that firewall i was using yesterday02:33
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wc_ubuntufire something02:33
IIIEarsTokenBad - slocate?02:33
wc_ubuntufiresurge?02:33
wc_ubuntufirespirit?02:33
TokenBadI tried that02:33
wc_ubuntuno....02:33
NinwaIt might be important to note the file install-sh is black and red when I ls, I'm not sure what that represnets02:33
Ninwarepresents02:33
wc_ubuntuit's popular one for Linux02:33
wc_ubuntufiresomething02:33
pfpoh, dear, for f*cks sakes02:34
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raz_drake, will try that, ty.02:34
pfpthe MD driver changes it's device numbering *each* time an array is changed :(02:34
Madpilotwc_ubuntu: firestarter?02:35
_drakeraz: good luck02:35
wc_ubuntuyep02:35
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wc_ubuntuthx02:35
_drakeanyone know what theme this is?02:35
_drakehttp://lynucs.org/index.php?screen_id=17589157784291319594ee4&p=screen02:35
wc_ubuntuhow come triggers do not work the same in Firefox for linux as they do in Firefox for windows02:35
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wc_ubuntuin windows i can setup triggers to search fields to make quick searching available02:35
wc_ubuntucannot do that in linux, wont work02:35
WillySillyanyone know if someone has fixed the inotify problem in ubuntu?02:36
wc_ubuntugoogle it02:36
pfp.. which means that my /usr, /var, /home keep changing places, which makes things a bit difficult... does anyone have a cure for this?02:36
wc_ubuntusearch string: inotify + ubuntu02:36
abarbacciahey, when i go to install something im getting unmet dependencies and a list of files that are not of high enough version to be compatible - anyway to force it to ignore those errors?02:36
orbithey all, I'm new to ubunut, just installed over Gentoo.  When I load up I can log into my normal user but when I try to add/remove programs my root password is no good02:36
orbitbut when I go into terminal and do su -02:36
orbitit works fine02:36
orbitany ideas?02:36
orbit*ubuntu02:37
dooglusdon't use your root password02:37
abarbacciaorbit, you sould use sudo02:37
j2dopesudo02:37
dooglususe your user password02:37
orbitok2k02:37
wc_ubuntuorbit,02:37
j2dopeas far as I know u don't really log in as root02:37
wc_ubuntuyeah what he said02:37
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wc_ubuntulol02:37
_drakeorbit, just do `sudo synaptic` or `sudo apt-get install`02:37
wc_ubuntubeat me to it02:37
wc_ubuntugtg eat supper, afk02:37
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j2dopetype 'sudo <command>'02:37
Madpilotorbit: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo02:37
abarbacciaorbit, if you want a su term, use sudo -s02:37
j2dopeand then ur user password02:37
j2dopethat's how i do it02:37
IIIEars!rootsudo - excellent informative02:37
ubotuIIIEars: I don't know02:37
IIIEars!rootsudo02:37
ubotuI heard rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo02:37
orbitI just guessed that when it asked for passord to add/remove it meant root02:38
dooglusorbit: it's not clear, is it.  it means your own password02:38
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orbitdooglus, thanks, Im used to gentoo too much I guess02:38
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dooglusorbit: by default there *is* no root password02:38
orbitdooglus, I realised that when going into recovery to set one02:38
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IIIEarsubotu tell orbit !rootsudo02:39
j2dopeso.. anybody,,, wireless networking with ubuntu?....02:39
dooglusorbit: if there's no root password, nobody can guess it...02:39
ghostlessIs there a tutorial on installing Windows XP as a secondary boot using Ubuntu to do partitioning etc...?02:39
dooglusorbit: but also, if your system crashes and fsdk on reboot asks for the root password, you're screwed02:39
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orbitthats true but I prefer to set my own, its about 20 chars long and is mixed caps/non-caps and numbers02:40
orbitso I feel pretty safe02:40
IIIEars!dualboot02:40
ubotuIIIEars: Are you smoking crack?02:40
dooglusorbit: so you can "sudo passwd" to set one02:40
orbitok, thanks02:40
MadpilotIIIEars: somebody's programmed attitude into ubotu... :D02:40
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orbitright, I'll leave this upgrading, night all02:41
davidlater02:41
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drake_what is the daemon that has to run so i can have gnome/gtk apps run properly in another windowmanager (ie window maker). so the icons will show up and whatnot02:41
IIIEarsubotu dualboot is ""http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38398 hm ""02:42
ubotuIIIEars: okay02:42
ghostlessDoes anyone know of a tutorial on installing Windows XP as a secondary boot using Ubuntu to do partitioning etc...?02:42
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abarbacciaghostless, you dont wanna install windows AFTER linux - its too many problems02:43
ghostlessabarbaccia, really....how so?02:43
seth_kghostless, MBR trouble02:43
zukalkwho needs win, anyway?02:43
seth_kghostless, Windows doesn't play nice with non-Windows OSes02:43
ghostlessI need for photoshop...I can't stand gimp02:43
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Madpilotghostless: google "gimpshop"02:44
ghostlessAnd this computer happens to have a nice monitor02:44
zukalkdoesn't photoshop work with wine?02:44
WillySillyanyone know if someone has fixed the inotify problem in ubuntu?02:44
jaysinnvmware on top of Ubuntu02:44
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britt_radiofreeok, anyone using flickr at all?02:44
ghostlesszukalk, if it does that would be great...I was trying the new CS 2 though02:44
IIIEarsubotu dualboot is also "" !grub""02:44
ghostlessMadpilot, I will thank you02:44
ubotuokay, IIIEars02:44
dooglushow many characters of your password are significant?  it used to be that only the first 8 were used, but not any more02:44
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zukalkghostless, i don't know, i'm just assuming it works02:45
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ghostlesszukalk, Oh ok...Well I guess and older version would...But CS 2 doesn't02:45
ghostlessan*02:45
delltonyanyone mind helping me get transcode installed? it keeps complaing about libavcodec and i can't seem to find it anywhere :(02:45
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britt_radiofreeanyone using ANY flash apps heavily? If so could you try right clicking and clicking settings and seeing if it renders properly02:46
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TokenBadI gove i[02:48
TokenBadgive up even02:48
apollo2011Can Ubuntu handle rpms in any way? Because JavaHMO only comes in an rpm.02:48
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ghostlessMadpilot: Is there somewhere I can download a Linux version...Or a package...All I see is a mac os version02:48
bluefoxicyanyone played doom3?02:48
WillySillyapollo2011: use alien to convert the rpm02:48
Madpilotghostless: just a moment...02:49
ghostlessMadpilot, ok thanks =)02:49
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apollo2011WillySilly: Thanks02:49
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apollo2011bluefoxicy: I played the demo02:50
WillySillynp02:50
scott_can xinerama be set up with an ati card?02:50
Madpilotghostless: http://freshmeat.net/projects/gimpshop/?branch_id=57360&release_id=19229602:50
ghostlessMadpilot, Thank you sir02:50
Madpilotghostless: no .deb, but there are instructions for using alien to convert the rpm, it seems02:50
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Madpilot...but this is one of those times when I'm actually clooless, and am just copying what google finds for me... ;)02:51
jindscott_, yes. Sure. But I cannot help you with ut though since I have intel card and the configurations are different. Google helps :)02:51
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popeye50hitlerpost?02:51
syndwhat the command to re-establish eth0 connection?02:51
ghostlessMadpilot, Alright I'll try to figure it out, thanks02:51
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scott_i have been googling for 2 days and havent been able to set up my dual monitor system properly with a radeon 920002:52
IIIEarssynd ifup?02:52
bluefoxicyapollo2011:  a window manager exactly like the save/option screen would be fucking cool02:52
delltonyanyone mind helping me get transcode installed please02:52
syndIIIEars: iono02:52
syndifup eth0, right?02:52
syndhmm.. odd i just reconnected the cable and i didnt have to do ifup..02:53
syndit jsut worked : /02:53
IIIEarssynd - (shrug) 6th week - have had nearly every problem but that one. - :/02:53
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syndi see02:53
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jindscott_, it's difficult yes. Xorg is quite new still, and the documentation sucks. Really. I spent 3 days just to find ut which options I needed, and 3 more days to recompile xorg from cvs to gain a complete xorg installation with a updated intel driver I needed for dual screen and 3d accelleration02:54
syndanyone use a WPC54G Linksys PCMCIA card?02:54
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IIIEarsdon't get me wrong ubuntu is great. - i just like to break things.  (it's an "issue" - lol)02:55
karstensommerAnyone know how to see the local windows drives in Ubuntu ?02:55
WillySillyanyone know if someone has fixed the inotify problem in ubuntu?02:55
xerohey... can anybody help me? i am trying to get my dual monitors working w/ my ati 970002:55
syndIIIEars: i know what you mean LD02:55
synd:D*02:55
TokenBadwell I still can't get a ftp server installed02:55
TokenBadso can have friend fxp me stuff02:55
xeroi have fglrx actually installed and working w/ openGL (i think) i just need to know how to setup dual monitors now02:55
zukalkkarstensommer: this might help http://ubuntuguide.org/#windows02:56
IIIEarsxero - this is what i have. http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-22412.html02:56
scott_xero - i am here for the exact same reason, been trying for 2 days02:56
xeroscott_ on jeez ":-P02:57
xeroIIIEars: thanks ill try to see if i dont crash it :-P02:57
sysrqit's not really a ubuntu specific issue, and dual monitors is well documented on the web02:57
IIIEarstrue02:57
IIIEars<nVidia - :P02:58
delltonyanyone been able to get transcode to install from the respository?02:58
JohnnyQuestwhat is fakeap?02:58
IIIEarsdelltony - the repo is misbehaving substitue archive. for us.02:59
ghostlessUmmm...How do I install a .deb02:59
ghostless?02:59
defzdpkg -i filename.deb02:59
WillySillydpkg -i <file>02:59
ghostlessdefz: many thanks02:59
zukalkadd 'sudo' or make sure you're root02:59
ghostlessok, you are very helpful blokes, thanks02:59
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delltonyok will try but i'm only have dependency issues on that one package02:59
delltony:(02:59
defzif only my problems were so simple :(02:59
apollo2011I am trying to install Powermated for my Griffin Powermate, and when I compile it, I get this error: http://sial.org/pbot/1099702:59
razIs there any way to make GTK fonts look.. umm.. non-horrible?!03:00
mic__I've been popping in here for a couple of days and picked up so much ty all03:00
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xeroIIIEars: well i just tried runing ur xorg.conf file and it didnt work03:00
pfpraz: do you mean gtk-1, like xmms?03:00
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razpfp, gtk-1, yes.03:01
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TQuidHi folks.  I'm getting more than one md5sum mismatch . . . this is after fiddling with sources.list, is there anything beyond apt-get update I should be doing?03:02
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razpfp, i downloaded 'gtk theme switch' and it doesn't seem to be working.. like, yes i can change fonts and everything, but it's still horrible. Comic Sans MS, for exemple, blows.03:02
xeroi tried both of the xorg.conf files but none of them were of any help... and as to what to change i dont know what ineed to do03:02
pfpraz: have you read http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Gtk1Fonts ?03:02
zukalkTQuid read the topic ;)03:02
dennis_hi I am trying to install kernel headers and I found this command in google apt-get install kernel-headers-2.6.10 but it does not work03:02
dennis_could someone help?03:02
ghostlessAnd umm...how can I uninstall a .deb package?03:03
TQuidThank you zukalk.  I'm a doofus.03:03
zukalkTQuid no problem ;)03:03
zukalkghostless dpkg -e <package name>03:03
defzdennis: are you running apt-get as root?03:03
sysrqdennis_: apt-cache search headers 2.6.1003:03
dennis_correct03:03
ghostlesszukalk: thanks, your great03:03
spiderwormanybody here play nexuiz?03:03
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pfpdennis_: kernel packages are called linux-* on ubuntu. do an 'apt-cache search linux-headers'03:03
razpfp, have a look: http://rghandour.tripod.com/Screenshot2.png - will read that03:04
zukalkghostless, note: it's the package name, not the filename (.deb)03:04
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dennis_awesome, thanks guys03:04
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Echo_MageAnyone know the system requirements for Ubuntu?03:04
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ghostlesszukalk: Oh ok, thanks03:04
jonohi all03:04
spiderwormEcho_Mage: ibm compatible03:04
britt_radiofreesomeone must use flash!03:04
jonowhich port does hula run on?03:04
britt_radiofreeer, flickr!03:04
Echo_MageNothing else matters then?03:05
ghostlesszukalk: umm how can  find the name?03:05
stuNNedjono: 808003:05
Echo_MageMemory and processor speed are my main concern?03:05
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zukalkhm03:05
Madpilotraz: get "msttcorefonts" from Synaptic03:05
spiderwormEcho_Mage: anything that your processor and memory cant handle, you can turn off03:05
xeroanybody have dual monitors working for an ati radeon card?! i cant get it!03:05
jonostuNNed, how do I create an account after a default install?03:06
Echo_Magegot a P3 500 with 64MB RAM, think it will run ok?03:06
davidhey, how would i go about deleting a directory and all its contents03:06
pfpraz: hmm, my problem was that all fonts were too small to be readable... the screenshot looks like you are missing antialiasing or something03:06
spiderwormEcho_Mage: just fine03:06
razMadeye, i did.03:06
zukalkghostless: the package name appears when you installed it ( "Installing <name> .. "), it's usually a matter of guessing03:06
Echo_Magekewl03:06
Echo_Magethanks guys03:06
xMaximexhow to configure ubuntu to only use alsa ?03:06
stuNNedjono: https://localhost/89 afaik for the admin interface03:06
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ghostlesszukalk: Alrighty thanks03:06
razpfp, right.... um, any ideas on how to enable antialiasing for gtk1?03:06
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zukalkghostless: maybe reading the man pages about dpkg might help, i'm kinda newbie too. open Synaptic, i think you can see what you've installed through dpkg03:06
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pfpraz: no, sorry03:07
jonostuNNed, what is the admin password?03:07
xeroEcho_Mage: i have a celeron 533 w/ 64mbs in it and it installs fine... i ran gnome and it was QUITE sluggish.  but it does work03:07
stuNNedraz: it's not supported afaik03:07
ghostlesszukalk: Oh ok that makes it easy, thanks03:07
stuNNedjono: admin:hula or something03:07
stuNNedjono: or hula:admin03:07
stuNNedjono: installing this on ubuntu?03:08
razstuNNed, k.. well any ideas on why my gtk1 apps/fonts look so ugly? (as shown in the screenshot above..)03:08
jonostuNNed, yes03:08
syndEcho_Mage: gnome really needs about 256MB RAM minimum and a P3 proc to run decently03:08
davidhow can i go about deleting a directory and all of its contents in one command?03:08
pfpdavid: rm -rf dirname03:08
davidthank you pfp03:09
xeroEcho_Mage: if you were to look for a more lightweight display manager that would b a good idea or just use it as a server03:09
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Echo_MageOkay may have to find some PC 100 lying around and throw it in there03:09
Echo_MageWhat about KDE is it any better?03:09
syndKDE is about the same03:09
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Echo_MageOkay03:09
xeroEcho_Mage: KDE is even more fatt03:09
zukalkEcho_Mage try Xfce403:09
syndxfce4 or fluxbox03:10
syndis your best bet03:10
jonostuNNed, hmm doesnt work03:10
stuNNedjono: http://hula-project.org/Installation_Ubuntu03:10
FR500hello, how do i install gnome splash themes?03:10
jonostuNNed, cheers03:10
pfpFR500: http://art.gnome.org/ -> FAQ03:10
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jonostuNNed, no username/password indicated there03:11
Echo_Magewill do, got the machine running a mepis liv CD at the moment gonna see how well it runs it03:11
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syndEcho_Mage: live cds are ok, but actual installations are better for seeing how well a distro performs03:11
wc_ubuntuwhere do you change mouse themes in gnome03:11
wc_ubuntu?03:11
xeroEcho_Mage: just remember a livecd is always gonna be slow as heck b/c its a cd03:11
Echo_MageYeah I know03:12
xerook03:12
Echo_MageWaiting for the ubuntu install disc to finish downloading then gonna throw it on there and see how it runs03:12
davidk03:12
syndwhats mepis use as a default window manager?03:12
Echo_MageKDE03:12
syndick03:12
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stuNNedjono: should work with user:admin, password:hula03:12
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wc_ubuntuwhere do you change mouse themes in gnome ???03:12
stuNNedjono: see http://hula-project.org/Installation_tutorial as wekk03:12
stuNNedwell*03:12
dennis_has anyone used linuxant driverloader (for wifi)?03:13
syndwc_ubuntu: no need to ask within 20 secs of your last asking03:13
xerodoes anybody know how to get dualmonitors working w/ an ATI card?!??!03:13
syndwc_ubuntu: if someone knows, theyll speak up03:13
Echo_MageRight now I got Mepis 3.3.1 on the machine I am using now, gonna run ubuntu on the other one and see how it runs, if its any better I may start to use it on this machine03:13
wc_ubuntudidnt think anybody heard me03:13
wc_ubuntunobody said they didnt know or knew how03:13
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wc_ubuntunobody said anything in reply03:13
syndno one has to reply03:14
syndif no one replies, then no one knows03:14
wc_ubuntui know, but it's a polite gesture to reply03:14
syndthers too much going on here to rreply03:14
Echo_MageOkay I don't know anything sorry03:14
syndyou want 484 replies saying that they dont know?03:14
RedstarI just did a fresh install of 5.04ppc, and then install Kino for the first time to check it out.. As soon as it loads and has hardly drawn it's windows, it exits to the desktop immediately.  Any idea why?03:14
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xMaximexTotem is working with ALSA but not beep-media-player and gaim .. how can i fix that ?03:15
zukalkcya lads03:15
crimsunxMaximex: configure b-m-p to use the alsa output plugin03:15
syndRedstar: howd it run before Kino?03:15
xerowhat is kino?03:15
defzi dont suppose anyone can help me get XviD working?  I've got Totem working, it plays mpeg files, but I can't seem to get it to play other file formats03:15
xMaximexcrimsun: that's what i did .. and it dont work03:15
xMaximexgaim is using automatic03:15
crimsunxMaximex: what did you configure b-m-p to use?03:15
xMaximexdefault sound driver in libsao.conf is alsa03:15
xerodefz: i reccomend going with a different player other than Totem03:15
xMaximexcrimsun: alsa03:15
xerodefz: VLC and MPlayer are both excellent choices03:16
Echo_Magewell gonna go burn the ubuntu install ISO wish me luck03:16
crimsunxMaximex: libao.conf should use alsa09, not alsa03:16
defzwell my mplayer doesn't work at all03:16
defzheh03:16
defzit freezes up03:16
syndtotem-xine is great for dvd03:16
xMaximexcrimsun: ok, i change the file03:16
xMaximexdo i need to relogin ?03:16
syndVLC is good, as well.03:16
xerodefz: yeah i have the same problem... idk why it does that... and the funny thing is it worked before03:16
xerodefz: xine and VLC you cannot go wrong with03:17
crimsunxMaximex: no03:17
xeroVLC plays ANYTHING03:17
crimsunxMaximex: just restart the app using libao03:17
xerofromw hat ik now03:17
xerofrom what i know** :-P03:17
crimsunxMaximex: I need precise details regarding your alsa configuration in b-m-p03:17
stuNNedjono: any luck?03:17
xeroyou also should install codecs if you havent already03:17
xMaximexcrimsun, the output plugin is alsa0.903:18
pfpdefz: i also recommend totem-xine, for totem's UI is very nice03:18
defzill try vlc03:18
defzbut mplayer just bites03:18
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xMaximexALSA 0.9.703:18
xerodefz: www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs03:18
RedstarHas anyone had Kino work for them?03:18
crimsunxMaximex: no, I mean the configuration details03:18
defzyeah ive been through that03:18
xerohehe what is kino?!03:18
xMaximexthe default sound system in gnome is alsa03:18
defzand im still having problems :(03:18
xerook03:18
xerowell try VLC and/or xine03:19
RedstarDv editing app03:19
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xerothey are both in synampic if you have fixed your repositories03:19
crimsunxMaximex: no. I meant buffer size, mmap, etc.03:19
defzwell isn't totem a frontend to xine?03:19
abarbacciahey, when i go to install something im getting unmet dependencies and a list of files that are not of high enough version to be compatible - anyway to force it to ignore those errors?03:19
xMaximexcrimsun: it's working now03:19
xMaximexfor b-m-p03:19
xMaximexi changed the default card03:19
davidquestion: can i upgrade my java through apt?03:19
crimsunxMaximex: good.03:19
xerodefz: i dontk now... but i know that xine has played formats that totem doesnt03:19
defzWOOO03:20
defzVLC works03:20
xMaximexcrimsun: but volume is V03:20
xMaximexVERY high03:20
xMaximexeven with sound off in b-m-p03:20
pfpdefz: there are 2 "totem" frontends, totem-gstreamer and totem-xine03:20
defzthis makes no sense... vlc works great, totem kinda works, mplayer doesn't work at all03:20
crimsunxMaximex: so turn it down03:20
Echo_Magehalf way there03:20
defzoh i was using gstreamer i think03:20
crimsundefz: how does it break?03:20
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xMaximexi can't set the volume with the icon in the upper right of the screen03:20
crimsunxMaximex: use alsamixer in a Terminal03:20
defztotem-gstreamer /only/ plays mpeg files03:21
xMaximexxmaximex@straightbox:~$ alsamixer03:21
xMaximexNo mixer elems found03:21
defzand mplayer freezes when opening any video file03:21
syndapt-get install totem-xine03:21
defzvlc plays them all flawless03:21
crimsunxMaximex: then you're not using alsa?03:21
xMaximexcrimsun: yes03:21
crimsunxMaximex: yes you are using alsa, or yes you're not using alsa?03:21
xMaximexim using alsa03:21
Echo_MageCD done gonna throw it on the old clunker and see how it runs03:22
crimsunxMaximex: cat /proc/asound/cards -> #flood03:22
xMaximexbash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'03:22
Echo_Magehow many GUIs does Ubuntu come with, just Gnome?03:22
xMaximexlol03:22
xMaximexok03:22
xMaximexi understand03:22
xeroEcho_Mage: yeah but u can install more if you want to03:22
syndanyone in the market for an iPod? i found a place that is offering them at 20% off : )03:22
xeroi can pretty much say that u can get it up an running in gnome... but again it will run like butt03:23
Echo_MageYeah think I'm gonna go get Xfce4 and throw it on a CD03:23
xerodefz: ur best bet is just to use VLC then :-P03:23
syndxfce is great03:23
syndmy favorite03:23
pfpthe s/w RAID1 driver (stock, modular) seems to change the ordrering of arrays on *each* boot if an array's status has changed, resulting in /usr, /home, /var etc switching places. has anyone else seen this?03:23
defzid like to know whats breaking though :)03:23
RedstarDoes anyone know if a DV camera has to be connected for Kino to load?03:23
defznow all thats broken is my sound03:23
defzthat might be kind of tricky to fix though03:23
xerodefz: whats not working?03:23
crimsunxMaximex: are you using the second card (ensoniq) in b-m-p?03:23
synddefz: did you do the soundfix documented in ubuntuguide.org?03:24
xerodefz: does nothing play sound or does vlc just not work for sound?03:24
xMaximexcrimsun: yes, the usb one is a microphone i thing03:24
FR500pfp, thanks03:24
xMaximexthink03:24
crimsunxMaximex: then you have to use alsamixer -c103:24
defzI've got a Terratec EWS88MT, which has ICE1712 (Envy24) chipset03:24
drummer87could someone help me change the firefox symlink in /usr/bin ... i want to give it a different target03:24
defz /nothing/ plays sound03:24
crimsunxMaximex: alsamixer with no parameters will assume -c003:24
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crimsundefz: cat /proc/asound/cards03:24
defz0 [EWS88MT        ] : ICE1712 - TerraTec EWS88MT03:24
defz                     TerraTec EWS88MT at 0xd400, irq 503:24
synddefz: ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly03:24
xMaximexok03:24
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crimsundefz: does ,,aplay -Dplughw:0,0 /usr/share/sounds/login.wav'' work?03:25
defzjust type ,,aplay -Dplughw:0,0 /usr/share/sounds/login.wav'' in a shell?03:25
crimsunwithout the commas and quotes, yes03:26
defzno, i dont hear a thing03:26
crimsunbut does it finish playing?03:26
defzits just hanging03:27
defzroot@ubuntu:/etc/apt # aplay -Dplughw:0,0 /usr/share/sounds/login.wav03:27
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defzand then a blinking cursor on the next line03:27
JohnnyQuestcan anyone help me with an error am having while installing an application?03:27
crimsundefz: press ctrl+c, then type: pgrep esd03:27
davidanybody know if latest Java is in universe?03:27
defz2455303:27
crimsundavid: java is not in universe.03:27
crimsundefz: System>Preferences>Sound>uncheck "Enable sound server startup"03:28
davidcrimsun, do i have to go to java site and manuall download it?03:28
defzok03:28
LuakagonI cannot copy my CD's to my hard drive.  I have a laptop and I move around so I might end up lasering something pretty badly, and plus it's just all-around better on the hard drive.  How do I copy music CDs to my Hard drive?03:28
Echo_MageGot Mepis on this machione but want to find a distro based on debian with really good hardware detection and easy package installation, Xandros was okay but not perfect. This one is the best so far, but is finicky about My card Reader and USB Flash stick, hope Ubuntu is better03:28
crimsundavid: there are instructions on the wiki and in the guide03:28
davidk thanks03:28
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RedstarAnyone succesfully used Kino .75 with 5.04?03:29
JohnnyQuestim installing an apllication and i get the error  'cannot find -lqt-mt', how do i fix this?03:29
drummer87dw.. did it ;)03:29
syndEcho_Mage: ubuntu is the best, imo03:29
Echo_MageSome odd reason the installer gets stuck on Loading /install/vmlinuz03:29
crimsunJohnnyQuest: install libqt3-mt-dev and libqt3-compat-headers03:29
JohnnyQuestok03:29
JohnnyQuesti have libqt3-headers, libqt3c102-mt, qt3-dev-tools, qt3.doc all installed03:30
Echo_MageThink it might be hung?03:30
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scanwinderdoes anyone have the imation disc stakka working in linux?03:30
defzcrimsun, let me know when you can finish helping me on the sound thing :)03:30
xMaximexhow to autostart a program when gnome starts ?03:31
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pfpxMaximex: system-preferences-sessions03:31
crimsunJohnnyQuest: did you tell ./configure where the qt3 headers are located?03:31
syndxMaximex: sessions03:31
delltonyi ask again cause i'm having no luck at this anyone been able to get transcode to install on ubuntu hoary?03:31
wc_ubuntuhi03:31
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wc_ubuntuGtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate loadable module in module_path: "libindustrial.so"03:32
wc_ubuntuever hear of that?03:32
JohnnyQuestno...03:32
JohnnyQuesti dont know how to do that03:32
crimsunJohnnyQuest: often, you have to pass --with-qt=/usr/share/qt303:32
JohnnyQuestim too new to linux...03:32
xMaximexthanks03:32
FR500a question, what is xdmcp?03:32
crimsunJohnnyQuest: the precise ./configure option is listed with ./configure --help03:32
JohnnyQuestok03:32
JohnnyQuestwell i did ./configure -thread03:32
razAnyone knows what's up w/ the ugly GTK1 fonts? Check the window that has focus for an exemple: http://rghandour.tripod.com/Screenshot2.png03:33
crimsundefz: ok, now: pgrep sed03:33
crimsundefz: sorry, pgrep esd03:33
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learn25hi03:34
crimsunhullo03:34
Luakagon howdy03:35
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pfpFR500: allows you to connect to a linux machine from a dumb, diskless X-terminal - http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/intro.html03:35
learn25anybody knows how to share wine to ordinary users?03:35
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FR500pfp, thanks again03:36
pfpa screwdriver and a set of glasses helps :)03:36
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learn25anybody knows how to share wine to ordinary users?03:36
HrdwrBoBjust pour them a glass03:36
learn25lol03:37
^thehatsrule^learn25, take the bottle, and 2 glasses03:37
^thehatsrule^bah, too late ;p03:37
FR500pfp, would it work to connect to linux from other oss too?03:37
learn25lol. i mean wine that is used to run windows applications03:37
HrdwrBoBlearn25: what do you mean03:37
HrdwrBoBwine can already be used by all users by default03:37
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learn25how?03:38
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HrdwrBoBjust run 'wine whatever.exe'03:38
vinuxhey all. I'm new to ubuntu. How do I install .deb pkgs that are on my hard drive?03:38
maewhich gpg key do i need to add to make archive.ubuntu.com authenticated03:38
HrdwrBoBthe same was any other user does it03:38
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learn25ok03:38
seth_kvinux: sudo dpkg -i blahblah.deb03:38
HrdwrBoBvinux: dpkg -i file.deb03:38
HrdwrBoBwhat seth said03:38
seth_klol03:38
vinuxthanks seth_k and HrdwrBoB03:38
learn25in my case i need to be a super user to run winamp03:39
learn25i to issue the sudo comman03:39
learn25d03:39
HrdwrBoBlearn25: run xmms03:39
pfpFR500: yeah, X is a standard protocol, so you can use vendor A's x-terminal (also called an X server, confusingly) to connect to a host running vendor B's X display manager03:39
learn25lol. i want windows application. i have autocad r14 running under wine.03:39
learn25but i have to be a super user03:40
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learn25i want ordinary users to run autocad03:40
HrdwrBoBlearn25: it should work fine03:40
HrdwrBoBwhat happens when you are not superuser03:40
pfpFR500: this place has some info too - diskless terminals are quite cool http://www.ltsp.org/03:40
syndis wine in the apt?03:40
learn25yah] 03:41
HrdwrBoBsynd: tes03:41
HrdwrBoByes03:41
learn25i installed wine03:41
crimsundefz: ?03:41
learn25apt-get install wine03:41
syndHrdwrBoB: and its as easy as running term and doing 'wine program.exe' ?03:41
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learn25and you can run some of the windows applications like mediaplayer 7, autocad, winamp, chess progarms like Arena03:42
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learn25yeah03:42
syndwhy run winamp when theres xmms : )03:42
Spaami'm curious... i set up firestarter (the firewall) and apparently my puter is going wild trying to connect to all different hosts on all different ports... like about 20 per minute03:42
syndi just need to run itunes03:42
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dennissynd...why run xmms when there is rythmbox and amarok03:42
Spaamok make that 100 per minute now03:43
dennisxmms is really outdated....03:43
learn25anybody tried to run counter-strike under wine?03:43
dennisNope03:43
HrdwrBoBsynd: possibly depends how well the particular app works03:43
synddennis: bleh i prefer xmms03:43
Echo_MageXmms ROCKS!!!03:43
dennisI'm going to run wow tonight though03:43
squirrelkillerhow do I sync audio and video in DVD playback gxine03:43
learn25winamp roars ;-)03:43
learn25it has a crossfade plugin03:43
HrdwrBoBlearn25: so does xmms03:43
learn25its like listening to an FM station03:44
defzcrimsun, you still around?03:44
learn25really?03:44
vinuxhey all i'm trying to install mplayer through apt-get. It says --- > Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libg/libgii/libgii0_0.8.5-2_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch03:44
HrdwrBoByes03:44
learn25how?03:44
defzvinux: you need to go into /etc/apt/sources.list03:44
learn25how to configure xmms to crossfade?03:44
defzand all the entries with us.archives.ubuntu.com03:44
syndvinux: take out the us.03:44
defztake out the us. :)03:44
vinuxk03:44
vinux:)03:44
HrdwrBoBxmms-crossfade - XMMS Plugin for Crossfading / Continuous Output03:44
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defzthen sudo apt-get update03:44
HrdwrBoBsudo apt-get install xmms-crossfade03:44
defzand then try getting mplayer03:44
crimsundefz: yes, did you answer my questions?03:44
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learn25thanks03:45
defzsorry, i rebooted after following the ubuntuguides directions03:45
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defzstill doesn't work03:45
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eyequeueis there a channel operator available?03:45
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defzpgrep esd03:45
defzgeh03:45
syndeyequeue: why?03:45
defzpgred esd gives me nothing03:45
eyequeuesynd:  a /topic item03:46
defzprep even03:46
syndeyequeue: Amaranth is an op03:46
crimsundefz: good.03:46
crimsundefz: now try that aplay command again03:46
seth_kI don't believe the reports of US archive being good03:46
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seth_kI'm waiting it out a bit more03:46
crimsuneyequeue: yes, why?03:46
syndeyequeue: he just joined so he should be there03:46
learn25anybody how to create an icon to launch wine applications without going to the terminal?03:46
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crimsunwhat topic adjustment, eyequeue?03:46
vinuxyou guys rock! Thanks so much!!!!!!!!!!!!03:46
learn25anybody knows how to create an icon to launch wine applications without going to the terminal?03:46
eyequeuecrimsun:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41265?referrerid=7995 ... us.archive has been working well for hours03:46
defzslightly different output now03:46
defzno sound still03:47
syndvinux: good job03:47
defznoname@ubuntu:~$ aplay -Dplughw:0,0 /usr/share/sounds/login.wav03:47
defzPlaying WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/login.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo03:47
defznoname@ubuntu:~$03:47
eyequeuesynd:  thanks :)03:47
seth_keyequeue, about 30 seconds before you joined the channel03:47
seth_keyequeue, somebody was still having md5sum problems03:47
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SpaamHELP: why is my linux box trying to connect to different hosts on differen ports at better than one a second?  i've got firestarter so most of these are being blocked, but this is still not good.  how do i find out which process(es) are doing this?03:47
eyequeueseth_k:  they'll need to sudo apt-get update03:47
Amaranthhi03:47
Amaranthon a windows machine that sucks and is dying03:47
xerolearn25: in gnome, rt click on the desktop and select Create Launcher03:47
JohnnyQuesti keep getting MD5suem mismatch when installing qt303:47
defzbut, no sound that i can hear03:47
JohnnyQuestcan anyone help?03:47
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syndAmaranth: ?03:48
eyequeueJohnnyQuest:  sudo apt-get update, then run the command you used to install again03:48
JohnnyQuesti tired taht03:48
Echo_Magehey synd03:48
eyequeueJohnnyQuest:  what mirror are you using?03:48
Amaranthwhoa03:48
Amaranthlog03:48
Amarantherr, lag03:48
JohnnyQuesthttp://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libj/libjpeg6b/libjpeg62-dev_6b-9_i386.deb03:48
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TokenBadwell I will just have to find another way to have people send me files..cause me and setting up ftp on ubuntu just don't mix03:48
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JohnnyQuestthats the link to the file that its havint trouble iwth03:49
JohnnyQuestor one of them03:49
Echo_MageThink I found the problem, CD-ROM drive may be bad too03:49
syndEcho_Mage: yo03:49
syndEcho_Mage: oh really03:49
crimsundefz: great, so it completes, which means esd was holding /dev/dsp (expected), and aplay was blocking on accessing /dev/dsp03:49
Spaamdoes anyone have any ideas?03:49
Amaranththis computer sucks03:49
syndAmaranth: what is it?03:49
eyequeueJohnnyQuest:  the update command should fix the md5sum mismatch error for the repository itself (Packages.gz)03:49
Echo_MageYeah it started vibrating really bad and now it reads very funny, almost doesn't I have a good one I can swap it with03:49
JohnnyQuestit didnt work..03:49
JohnnyQuesti ran that update command..03:50
Amaranth800Mhz Athlon with 512MB RAM running winxp on a 28.8k connection03:50
defzok03:50
Amaranthyeah, really sad03:50
syndAmaranth: :/ why on a 28.8?03:50
Echo_MageMy gramps Ath 650 runs fine on XP you just gotta know how to tweak it03:50
Amaranthbecause that's all the crappy phone line can handle03:50
syndAmaranth: dontcha got high speed?03:50
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TokenBadcan someone walk me through setting up ftp server on ubuntu...I have tried vsftp, glftpd and pureftp03:51
Echo_MageOr are you talking about the internet conn?03:51
Amaranthsynd: I'm not at home.03:51
TokenBadand can't seem to get any to work03:51
eyequeueJohnnyQuest:  try that, then sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/libjpeg62-dev_6b-9_i386.deb, then sudo apt-get install libjpeg62-dev03:51
syndAmaranth: ah.03:51
Amaranthsynd: Won't be for a week.03:51
syndAmaranth: ouch. so youre stuck with 28.8..?03:51
Echo_MageOuch03:51
Amaranthyep03:51
synd;/03:51
eyequeueJohnnyQuest:  just in case you have a bad deb d/l'd from earlier03:51
Echo_MageAmaranth > Makes me cringe I can't live without my 5 megs03:51
Spaamanyone?03:51
vinuxwow there are alot of people here! Didn't know Ubuntu was this big03:52
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defzaplay blocking on accessing /dev/dsp doesn't really mean much to me :(03:52
TokenBadI wish fios was here03:52
TokenBad15mbit down/2mbit up03:52
JohnnyQuestcannot remove, no such file or directory03:52
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syndvinux: ubuntu is the fastest growing community : )03:52
eyequeuevinux:  some are idle, but of course many ubuntu users aren't on irc :)  welcome03:52
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crimsundefz: that's ok. Next step, paste the output from amixer onto pastebin.com03:52
xerotokenBad: i use wu-ftpd03:52
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xeroit works fine03:52
TokenBadxero was it easy to set up?03:52
xeroTokenBad: i had no problem doing it... so i guess its easy03:52
JohnnyQuestany suggestions eyequeue?03:53
xMaximexHow can i change the command executed by hotkeys when i press a specific key ?03:53
vinuxeyequeue, synd woot well i'm happy to be part of such a fine community03:53
Echo_MageSYND > Gonna swap that CD and see if that fixxes it, Be back in a min or two03:53
eyequeueJohnnyQuest:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libjpeg62-dev03:53
xeroTokenBad: i dont really remember though :-P03:53
syndvinux: best one out there : )03:53
xMaximexwhen i press on Next Song it open xmms --fwd but i use b-m-p03:53
syndEcho_Mage: good deal03:53
vinuxsynd, woot! I feel at home03:53
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syndvinux: check out distrowatch.com and see whats #103:53
eyequeueJohnnyQuest:  i have one more rm command for you if that doesn't fix it03:54
defzcrimsun: amixer output pasted to http://pastebin.ca/1420603:54
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Echo_MageSYND > the CD is probably good because all my other distros worked when burned with K3B so It must be the CD rive in the old Clunker\03:54
FR500hmm, the gnome theme manager doesnt load for me03:54
syndEcho_Mage: true03:54
vinuxsynd, ok. btw my mplayer works great now! Man it was so easy to install thanks to the ubuntu guide. I just needed to fix my server list03:54
FR500any ideas on why?03:54
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Echo_MageSYND > Besides I can't have WIN ME running on that thing, I can't stand to have ME in the same room with me03:55
xerovinux: did you have problems w/ getting an error whne u ran mplayer? b/c i do now03:55
syndvinux: ubuntuguide.org is great. so is the ubuntu wiki03:55
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syndEcho_Mage: winme.. id rather not use a computer than have to use that03:56
JohnnyQueststill getting the problem03:56
Echo_MageSYND > I hear ya03:56
JohnnyQuestmd5sum mismatch still03:56
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TokenBadwoah..reading the info on wu-ftpd for setting up accounts03:57
TokenBadand man..confused me03:57
Echo_MageME runs so slow on these older machines, makes me cringe03:57
xeroTokenBad: just iinstall it :-P03:57
eyequeuecrimsun:  oddity here.  on breezy, multimedia systems selector, changing output from esd to asla caused things to work again, but for input, every option says it can't construct a test pipeline.  known issue?03:57
eyequeueJohnnyQuest:  sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/libjpeg62*03:58
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eyequeueJohnnyQuest: then sudo apt-get install libjpeg62-dev03:58
crimsuneyequeue: yes03:58
eyequeuecrimsun:  okay, no prob then03:58
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eyequeuecrimsun:  you saved me beating on it for an hour :)  btw, will alsa be the better option from here forward? (polypaudio too, if that matters)03:59
Mezcrimsun, apparently the US mirros is still b0rked03:59
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JohnnyQuestsame errors still03:59
eyequeueMez:  very strange that it's been working perfectly for me for hours in that case03:59
xeroJohnnyQuest: are you getting an MD5sum error when u run apt-get update too?04:00
Mezlmoretti exact error "Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/pango1.0/libpango1.0-0_1.8.1-0ubuntu2_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch"04:00
JohnnyQuestya04:00
eyequeueJohnnyQuest:  are you comfortable editing a text file?04:00
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JohnnyQuestim brand new to linux...04:00
Mez(from #kubuntu)04:00
xeroshanty... i just realized i did too04:00
dennisgedit /file/04:00
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JohnnyQuestbut, depending on the modification, i could do it04:00
xeroJohnnyQuest: what is from the nerim site?04:00
eyequeueJohnnyQuest:  well, you'll change all occurences of us.archive to just archive04:00
JohnnyQuestnerim?04:00
JohnnyQuestok04:01
JohnnyQuestwhere is the file?04:01
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JohnnyQuestthat i change?04:01
eyequeueJohnnyQuest: but i can construct a single commandline to do it, if you need one04:01
defzgedit /etc/apt/sources.list04:01
Mezsee people are still saying to chaneg ti from us.archive to archive04:01
JohnnyQuestthat woudl be nice eyequeue, ic you dont mind04:01
eyequeueJohnnyQuest:  /etc/apt/sources.list (you'll need sudo)04:01
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defzMez: its still a problem apparently, and it fixes it :/04:01
syndah better04:01
eruinwhy just archive?04:01
eruinwhy not another mirror?04:01
defzus.archives is broken04:02
synd!synd04:02
ubotuit has been said that synd is a badass04:02
bhiltonHow do I start the gDesklets daemon at bootup?04:02
Mezdefz: yeah by not using the us mirror04:02
Mezbut according to the topic04:02
Mezthe us mirror is fixed04:02
Th4tBa5t4rdokay dumb question. websites with embedded .wmv  clips. is there a way to set it up so i can see them or should i just forget about it?04:02
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defzyeah, they changed the topic a little too quick i thin04:02
eyequeueJohnnyQuest:  sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list04:02
defzTh4tBa5t4rd: i think you can setup totem-mozilla or something04:02
JohnnyQuestand that does it all?04:02
defzlemme look04:03
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xerodefz: or mozilla-vlc :-)04:03
eyequeueJohnnyQuest:  that will make the changes to the file, then you will do this:04:03
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eyequeueJohnnyQuest:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libjpeg62-dev04:03
crimsunare people still having problems with us.archive?04:03
JohnnyQuesti am04:03
Th4tBa5t4rdi was hoping the answer was forget about it... now i will end up scouring for info and try and make it work04:03
seth_kcrimsun: we've got one with problems in #kubuntu too04:03
seth_kcrimsun: so it's not just him04:03
Th4tBa5t4rdi am not having any issues with .us at the moment04:03
eyequeuecrimsun:  apparently so, yet it's perfect here.  i'd suggest redoing the /topic warning04:03
defzTh4tBa5t4rd: i saw it on ubuntuguide.org somewhere :)04:04
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defzwhile trying to fix my problem04:04
xeroi am having a problem w/ the nerim site04:04
xeroi just noticed it today....idk if it has been a problem before04:04
Amaranthxero: marillat is meant for debian and has been known to break ubuntu systems04:04
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defzhttp://www.ubuntuguide.org/#mplayer04:05
defzthere04:05
eyequeuexero:  nreim is a known problem04:05
eyequeuexero:  nerim04:05
defzprobably some other ones if you dont like mplayer04:05
bob2hah04:05
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bhiltonHow do I start the gDesklets daemon at bootup?04:05
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crimsunuh04:05
xeroAmaranth: eesh.... but why did the forums tellme to use it then if its gonna break stuff?04:05
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Amaranthxero: the forums aren't official in any way, that's just what some user thought would be good04:06
crimsunfatfingered04:06
Luakagonanarchy!04:06
Luakagon:)04:06
xeroahh ic04:06
Mez;)04:06
xeroso youguys dont use the nerim site @ all?104:06
bob2no04:06
bob2if you use it, things will break04:06
Luakagoncould someone help me with my culture issues?  my issues caused by an inability to copy cd music to my hard drive?04:06
Zzzippohi All, Im a newb w/ Linux.  I just got Ubuntu running on my laptop and I think its the flavor for me! ;) however I am having problems getting the ethernet and wireless cards working,  The wired card(Linksys NP100 pcmcia) works fine w/ Mandrake 9.1, Mandrake 10.2 does not see it.  Ubuntu Does not see it either.  I want to go w/ Ubuntu can anyone help me get it working?04:06
bob2ie mplayer will be uninstallable04:06
xeroshanty04:06
eyequeuesorry, but i really have had hours of constant us.a.u.c success here, heavy usage (though maybe the breezy repo is sync'ed and not the warty repo yet?)04:06
xerobob2 i have mplayer issues04:07
bob2shockingly04:07
bob2so, don't use marillat's sourcs04:07
xero:-P04:07
abarbacciaif im getting a md5sum mismatch when i go to install something - anyway to override the md5check and just install04:07
Luakagonhey Zzzippo you probably need to get ndiswrapper or something04:07
xerook so should i get rid of those nerim sites and try to reinstall mplayer?104:07
crimsunyou really don't want to override that warning, abarbaccia04:07
bob2abarbaccia: no, you read the channel topic04:07
eyequeuexero:  i rather strongly would recommend the "extras" repository from backports over the nerim repository, if you feel you must04:07
Luakagonthats what I have to get my wireless card working04:07
defzbackports has pretty much everything marillat has anyways04:07
flodinea guys i just put a amd 3000+ chip now i have to turn apic off to boot is this good or bad04:07
bob2abarbaccia: overriding the warning = trying to get dpkg to install random binary junk04:07
ZzzippoLuak is ndiswrapper only for wifi cards?04:07
abarbacciabob2, wow - lol thanks04:07
Zzzippoerr isn't it04:08
xeroeyequeue: how do i do the extras rep?04:08
bob2flodine: it means your motherboard or the kernel is byggy04:08
eyequeuexero:  the former is customized to work with ubuntu hoary, the latter is customized to work with debian sarge etch or sid04:08
squirrelkilleris transparency working in ubuntu?04:08
LuakagonZzzippo, I have no idea what I'm talking about.04:08
flodinebob2 do i need to redo ubuntu04:08
bob2flodine: no...04:08
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bob2Luakagon: what driver does it use?04:09
Echo_MageSYND > You there?04:09
=== |QuaD-_ wishes x on breezy was not b0rked
eyequeuexero:  here's an example line to add to /etc/apt/sources.list:  deb http://acm.cs.umn.edu/ubp hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted04:09
syndEcho_Mage: yes04:09
Zzzippohehe np ive goggled my eyes out...ndisswrapper comes on the iso i can install it from there04:09
Echo_MageThe CD-ROM drive was the prob04:09
xeroeyequeue: so get rid of the nerim sites and add that one?04:09
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Echo_Magesynd: the cd is installing fine now04:09
Zzzippobut i think it is for wifi cards which i have...but trying to get the regular wired card working first04:09
syndEcho_Mage: good deal04:10
crimsundefz: have you tried using envy24control as opposed to alsamixer?04:10
Zzzippoit works fine under mandrake 9.1...I didnt even have to configure it04:10
eyequeuexero:  go to the http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/ site with firefox os similar and choose the best mirror for your location of course.  yes, just comment the other out if you like, but then sudo apt-get update04:10
Luakagonbob2, are you talking about my problems or Zzzippos?04:10
Echo_MageThe setup is running real fast now04:10
bob2bah04:10
bob2Zzzippo: what chipset does it use?04:10
defzcrimsun: no i haven't, im not sure how to install it04:10
defzi dont see a package04:10
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Zzzippobut see mandrake 9.1 doesn't support the ndisswrapper i need to get the wireless card going04:11
bob2please don't use backports if you don't understand what they are04:11
ivoksbob2: do you ever sleep? :)04:11
crimsundefz: not packaged in hoary. ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/tools/alsa-tools-1.0.9.tar.bz204:11
bob2ivoks: just woke up04:11
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Zzzippobob2 i am not sure04:11
muttDChello, i have a question... how much fps is suppose to get a Radeon 9600XT04:11
ecarrollWill i have any problems if i remove everything returned from deborphan?04:11
bob2muttDC: depends on the game04:11
muttDChello, i have a question... how much fps is suppose to get a Radeon 9600XT  in glxgears? :p04:11
eyequeueecarroll:  possibly, though not likely04:11
bob2muttDC: and glxgears is nota useful benchmark04:11
defzcrimsun: that would explain a few things :)04:11
muttDCooh, ok04:11
ivoksecarroll: well, be careful04:11
bob2ecarroll: yes04:11
Zzzippoit is a linksysfast ethernet 10/100 pcmcia card model NP10004:12
ghostlessWhere can I find w32codecs to download?04:12
|QuaD-_bob2: is there a fix to get X on breezy working?04:12
eyequeueecarroll:  have you installed any non-ubuntu packages, or any packages that were NOT from a .deb?04:12
muttDCbob2, do yo know where can i find a guide to install quake2?? :$04:12
bob2|QuaD-_: it should only need a single symlink04:12
Echo_Magesynd: gonna get the OS on there and see how it runs, my big issue is how many different types of Install packages can it handle, also how does it hand USB and card readers04:12
|QuaD-_bob2: what should i link?04:12
ecarrolleyequeue: nothing that would have non-deb dependencies04:12
bob2muttDC: quake2 is in ubuntu already04:12
Zzzippoit is listed as supported on the hardware list at the ubuntu site04:12
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bob2|QuaD-_: don't remember04:12
|QuaD-_bob2: ok04:12
ecarrolleyequeue: err nothing that would have deb dependencies04:12
syndEcho_Mage: i use a san disk 8-1 card reader and it mounts automatically and runs fine04:12
muttDCthanks a lot bob2 ;)04:12
ivoks|QuaD-_: check out subject about breezy04:12
Echo_MageWhat about an internal 7in104:13
ecarrollI'm using breezy works excellent for me04:13
Zzzippoello?04:13
eyequeueecarroll:  if so, you'll need to manually ensure you don't delete any of their dependencies (since the dpkg database and therefore deborphan won't know about them)04:13
|QuaD-_ivoks: haha... i have been using it since it came out04:13
|QuaD-_hoary also04:13
syndEcho_Mage: dunno. how is connected? usb?04:13
ecarrollrought upgrade, and one broken package in the repository failing md5 sum, everything else is golden04:13
eyequeueecarroll:  do you at least understand the principle there?04:13
bob2ecarroll: md5sum errors = /topic04:13
Echo_Magesynd: Not sure its detected as SDA1 on my Mepis system04:13
bob2Zzzippo: what does google say about it?04:13
ecarrolleyequeue: yes04:14
ghostlessWhere can I find w32codecs to download??04:14
Zzzipposay about what?04:14
ivoksbob2: we should change subject to "breezy is not supported here"04:14
eyequeueecarroll:  personally i use deborphan as a suggestion, then dpkg --purge foo baz baz manually04:14
syndghostless: ubuntuguide.org04:14
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xeroeyequeue: the one you listed did not work04:14
bob2Zzzippo: about the card, of course04:14
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ecarrolleyequeue: Long time debian user, no packages i have installed would require dependieces currently being satisified by debs04:14
ghostlesssynd: Ok, thanks you kind sir04:14
eyequeuexero:  odd.  what was the error message?04:14
syndghostless: yu04:14
syndp04:14
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xeroi got a 404 Not Found04:15
eyequeueecarroll:  cool, you've got the background to know then, if you'd be breaking anything :)04:15
ecarrolleyequeue: i just send deborphan right to dpkg most of the packages sound useless ill back up the list if i need it again ill just redownload it04:15
xero... let me double check my spelling...04:15
eyequeueecarroll:  exactly :)04:15
ecarrollerr right to apt-get --purge remove04:15
Zzzippoumm lets see....04:15
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bob2Zzzippo: particularily wrt to ubuntu and linux04:15
eyequeueecarroll:  they're almost synonyms04:15
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Echo_MageThis is gonna be distro number 6 for me04:15
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bob2people should just start on ubuntu or debian and save a ton of time04:16
flodinebob2 what do i do to fix my apic problem04:16
xeroeyequeue: it was an sp error sorry and thanks04:16
eyequeueEcho_Mage:  simultaneous or consecutive?04:16
bob2flodine: I don't know, I don't see where you explained your problem04:16
eyequeuexero:  ah, that happens more here than there i'm sure, heh.  no prob04:16
Zzzippooh....well yeah cause a simple google on it gives me mostly prices and driver d/l links04:16
flodinebob2 if i turn apic off it boot04:17
bob2flodine: so, turn it off04:17
defzcrimsun: im having a slight problem compiling it04:17
bob2Zzzippo: er...when you add ubuntu?04:17
flodinebob2 is that ok04:17
ghostlesssynd: Well...I did the apt-get they said but it couldnt find the package...Know of another way?04:17
defzconfigure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH04:17
Echo_Mageeyequeue: consecutive RED HAT EWS 3, Lycoris Desktop LX, Xandros, Symphony, and Mepis04:17
bob2defz: please read the FAQ04:17
Zzzipponothing when i add unbuntu04:17
syndghostless:  you have to do each step04:17
bob2defz: hint: install build-essential04:17
crimsundefz: you need build-essential and libasound2-dev04:17
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syndghostless: ie you have to get the right repositories04:17
bob2flodine: it just means your motherboard or the kernel sucks04:17
flodinebob2 dang your very busy04:18
Zzzippounbuntu supported hardware page lists it as working04:18
JohnnyQuestanyone know what this error is? 'cannot find -ldvdnav04:18
ghostlesssynd: Alright, I will look again...Thanks.04:18
defzwhich FAQ am i supposed to be reading for envy24control?04:18
defzi dont see anything about build-essential04:18
bob2JohnnyQuest: it means you don't have libdvdnav installed04:18
Zzzippoand it works fine with mandrake04:18
syndghostless: its kinda a long process, but just follow the steps04:18
flodinebob2 all i did was take a 2600amd out and put a 3000in04:18
eyequeueEcho_Mage:  you've had a nice variety of different philosophies there, all except perhaps a slackware or lfs/gentoo :)04:18
bob2Zzzippo: try asking on the user list, I guess04:18
Zzzippoi think i need to load a module fore it or probe for it04:18
Zzzippobut dont know how04:18
flodineand my stuff sucks04:19
cb122hello all04:19
Zzzippook thx anyways04:19
flodinebob2 i guess i need a 64 bit chip then04:19
Echo_Mageeyequeue: Yeah, the prob is I'm a noob RH scared me, Lycoris frightened me, Xandros was fun so was Mepis, Symphony is still in alpha testing04:19
bob2flodine: wtf04:19
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Zzzippoim gonna give up and go fly some aces high2 soon as fedora finishes d/ling04:20
Echo_Mageeyequeue: Slackware and Gentoo are probably too advanced for me04:20
eyequeueEcho_Mage:  i hope (and expect) you'll enjoy ubuntu, it's rather user-friendly04:20
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flodinebob2 relaxxxx04:20
bob2flodine: oh, please stop it04:20
eyequeueEcho_Mage:  this channel, and also the various sites listed in the /topic are great resources04:20
flodinebob2 ok04:20
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ghostlesssynd: alrighty04:21
vinuxHey all ubuntu now is my favorite. It even beats out slackware :)04:21
Echo_Mageeyequeue:  so far Mepis has been the best so far, software install is #1 priority on my list, hardware compatibilty is a close second04:21
defzok, i run a ./configure for envy24control and thats fine04:21
defzthen i do 'make'04:21
defzand I get a nice Error 104:21
xeroecho_Mage: as recent super-newbie i bounced around trying to find the right distro... everything i tried had problems (including ubuntu) but i found this to be the best of everything04:21
Echo_Magexero:  if Ubuntu proves to be as good as I hope it is, It will replace Mepis04:22
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bob2defz: error one is not the actual error04:22
cb122Echo_Mage,  I am a terminal newbie.  Never satisfied with anything but yet I have had ubuntu installed the longest.04:22
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bob2defz: paste the dozen lines before that to #flood04:22
cb122the community is very nice as well04:23
eyequeueEcho_Mage:  i was frankly shocked at some of the hardware compatibility, but of course, yours may differ (file a bug though so it can be fixed)04:23
cb122not all elitists04:23
xeroEcho_Mage: i dont mnow much of Mepis... is it a new distro or just a livecd?04:23
syndxero: a new distro04:24
Echo_Magexero: apparently a new distro, linux.org doesn't even have it listed yet04:24
defzive got way more error lines than that04:24
defzthey all seem to be Gtk-related04:24
syndxero: distrowatch.com04:24
syndits like #304:24
Echo_Magexero: thats where I found it04:24
eyequeuemepis is another debian-based distro04:24
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xerooh its debian-based as well hmm04:25
JovenComunistahello04:25
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xerou cant go wrong w/ apt.. its second only to gentoo's portage04:25
xeroand gl to anybody attempting the gentoo fight ugh04:25
JovenComunistawhat's the big difference between ubuntu and gentoo????04:25
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dakzgentoo is way too hard for newbies04:26
dakzto install...04:26
defzgentoo is a linux distro for people that want to have complete control over how everything on their system is compiled, and they don't want a single file or line of code extra04:26
xeroyeah gentoo is for the uber-users and even they complain nonstop about it04:26
scott_I just installed ubuntu and I have a crap load of problems04:26
defzscott_ if you were using gentoo, you could probably multiply that by 1004:26
ivoksgentoo is... wrong descision :)04:26
syndmy favorite other than ubuntu is damn small04:26
scott_problem number one: I can't find my windows partition04:27
xeroat least 10 haha trust me ive tried it as a newb04:27
syndubuntu and damn small for me04:27
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crimsundefz: need libgtk1.2-dev, too04:27
sproingie would that be a decacrapload then?04:27
xeroscott_: www.ubuntuguide.com that will help you with alot of the initial setup04:27
ghostlesssynd: It works! Dude you are great! Many thanks to you!04:27
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defzheh, how did you figure that out?04:27
scott_I've been there.04:27
caleb_new hoary install.  Synaptic is reporting a lot of md5 mismatches.  is this a known issue?  stock repos.04:27
syndghostless: no problem04:27
ghostless)04:27
ghostless=)04:27
scott_My windows partition isn't even in /dev04:27
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vinuxThere was a problem with mplayer playing dvd guys. But dont' worry I downloaded totem-xine and now I can play dvds fine04:27
eyequeuescott_:  odds are that's an ntfs partition and needs to be mounted ... yes, what xero said04:27
ecarrollLFS is one step further than gento04:27
ivoksscott_: that's a joke of the year :)04:28
xeroscott_: sudo fdisk -l04:28
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sproingiecaleb_: should definitely not happen.  what packages?04:28
crimsundefz: I knew. Sorry, should have made that explicit.04:28
syndvinux: totem-xine is great04:28
scott_I thought it would appear in /dev anyway04:28
ivokscaleb_: /topic?04:28
vinuxsynd, yea it looks really good04:28
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syndvinux: is your DMA enabled?04:28
xeroi have had numerious problems w/ mplayer on ubuntu04:28
vinuxsynd, yep04:28
ivokscaleb_: us repositorys are broken04:28
ivokscaleb_: use some others04:28
caleb_ivoks: thanks.04:29
syndvinux: good deal04:29
defzhot damn04:29
defzthat was it04:29
xeroscott_ well you might not know which one it is so just use the fdisk -l command to view all your partitions04:29
defzits compiling nicely (for now)04:29
_kazIs there a problem with the ubuntu/kbuntu installer? It fails on BOTH at the same spot... after partitioning, during the unpacking(?) stage when it gets to coresomething...04:29
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sproingiehm ... does hdparm actually do anything for SATA disks?04:29
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xero_kaz: is ur cdrom drive good? and is your cd not scratched?04:29
_kazit suggests that I record the CD over again at lower speeds.04:29
scott_How come I get a lot of XML parsing errors from firefox?04:29
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airmikeyany 1 running dualies04:30
_kazxero: yes, tried 2 different distros (kubuntu and ubuntu) on 3 different discs... at 8x for 2 of them.04:30
synd_kaz: Echo_Mage was having the same type problem. his CD drive was the culprit04:30
scott_is there anyway to fix the xml parsing error guys?04:30
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sproingiescott_: you sure it's well-formed xml?04:31
Echo_MageALL: Passed the CD part of Install on the Clunker04:31
xero_kaz: might be your cdrom drive then... ive found that when installing a distro it reall pushes ur cdrom drive.  i have found that an older cdrom drive that worked find under normal conditions didnt work when installing linux b/c theres soo much that its doing04:31
_kazstrange. Ok I guess I'll try a different CD drive tomorrow.04:31
scott_I look at my history in firefox and it says XML parsing error04:31
_kazBut yeah, the CDROM worked otherwise.04:31
ivoksscott_: you installed some broken extension04:31
sproingiescott_: that sounds ominous.  sounds like your install was mightily hosed04:31
scott_It came installed lol04:31
_kazxero: sounds like poor programming. :P04:31
xero_kaz: i could be wrong... but if you have another one to test out then i would try that b/c from my personal experience that has been my problem04:31
defzcrimsun: ok, got envy24control up... what now?04:32
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_kazif the installer is pushing a 16x CD-R drive so far to its limits that it can't be installed, then this is probably a programming problem with the installer somewhere.04:32
sproingiemy favorite is having to manually delete the lock file.  yep, aunt tilly will sure manage that04:32
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_kaz16x CDR (maybe 24x CD) isn't THAT old :P04:33
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_kazespecially for *nix.04:33
xeropossibly i dont really know04:33
ivokssproingie: he copied his .firefox from some other place, or installed broken extension04:33
ivokssproingie: or .mozilla :)04:33
defzwhen i do aplay04:33
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scott_Mounting the windows partition did not work04:34
defzit shows sound playing on PCM Out 1 and 204:34
defzbut the digital mixer is dead04:34
scott_also my sound blaster doesn't work04:34
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scott_Is it possible for me to be able to change the resolution to 1280x1024?04:35
sproingieivoks: ah.  well, technically that should work04:35
Octaneis the openoffice.org2-common package openoffice 2.0 beta?04:35
Echo_MageALL: Do you have to be connected to the web to install Ubuntu?04:35
crimsundefz: use it to adjust the mixer elements. I don't use that software because I don't have that hardware.04:35
crimsunEcho_Mage: no04:35
jalystwoah this channels seriously busy, 1st time ubuntu user here, hi folks!04:35
defzah ok04:35
Echo_MageOkay I was wondering04:35
xeroOctane: yeah i think openoffice2 is still in beta04:35
crimsunscott_: paste the output of amixer onto pastebin.com04:35
defzso you think from here, its a mixer problem specific to my card?04:35
Octanexero, youre right, but is that it?04:36
defzi just need to figure out the right settings?04:36
Octanei mean, is that hte beta vversipon04:36
Echo_MageOpen Office 2 is still in Beta04:36
Octane*verision04:36
Octaneyes i know04:36
crimsundefz: it's not a "problem" - you just need to mute and/or unmute the appropriate elements.04:36
xeroOctane: yes i think so04:36
Octanebut is that a package of the beta version?04:36
scott_crimsun: what is amixer?04:36
daviddoes ubuntu come with a firewall?04:36
ivokssproingie: not allways04:36
ivoksdavid: :)04:36
ivoksdavid: every linux comes with firewall04:36
fishieare there any webcam programs for gnome04:36
crimsunscott_: a command. Open a Terminal, type amixer, and paste the output onto the pastebin.com web site.04:36
abarbacciahey bob2 i need some help with installing a package - it says its broken, any advice on how to fix it04:36
davidoh lol04:37
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ivoksdavid: the questiong is... do you need firewall? this isn't windows :)04:37
davidwhere can i go to cinfugre it04:37
jalysthey, can anyone point me to a good up-to-date guide for getting FreeNX server running on hoary? I want to install the client on my XP (gaming) box so ill never be too far away from ubuntu :-)04:37
xeroOctane: yes it is b/c the version number is 1.9.x which Openoffice is calling the beta for 2.004:37
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scott_crimsun: when I go to pastebin.com it says Query failure: Can't open file: 'pastebin.MYI'. (errno: 145)04:37
scott_select pid,poster,unix_timestamp()-unix_timestamp(posted) as age, date_format(posted, '%a %D %b %H:%i') as postdate from pastebin where domain='' order by posted desc, pid desc limit 1004:37
Octanewell it doesnt work, there is no openoffice.org2-core04:37
ivoksdavid: netfilter (linux firewall) isn't point and click software04:37
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xeroOctane: i installed openoffice.org2 and that has worked fine04:37
Octaneya but -core04:38
Echo_Mageivoks> no matter what OS you run you should have a firewall, no one is safe nowadays04:38
xeroi dont know04:38
mike_douglasI'm getting md5sum mismatches on the server (both ca and us mirrors), would this be on my end or yours?04:38
ivoksdavid: you can try to configure netfilter with firestarter04:38
Octaneis missing04:38
Daveymy windows box is perfectly virus, spam and spyware protected...04:38
ivoksEcho_Mage: firewalls on local computers are useless04:38
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Daveycourse, it has no CD/Floppy drives, no USB ports and no internet connection :)04:39
davidivoks: whats firestarter (im a noob)04:39
Echo_MageOn local machines yes04:39
xeroOctane: its missing in synaptic? are your repositories up to date?04:39
Octaneyes they are04:39
Octaneand yes its missing04:39
OctanePackage openoffice.org2-core is not available, but is referred to by another package.04:39
ivoksdavid: firestarter is graphical tool that will help you set up netfilter (linux firewall)04:39
jalystdid anyone get that query of mine?04:39
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scott_crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/1421104:39
Octanefirestarter is very good04:39
Octanehighly recommended04:39
davidivoks: how do i get to it04:39
Echo_Mageivoks> on a good server a linux OS with a firewall is like fort know to a hacker04:39
ivoksdavid: netfilter is very very powerfull firewall, there is NO gui that will show you all it can do04:40
Echo_Mageivoks: 8knox I mean04:40
ivoksdavid: sudo apt-get install firestarter04:40
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xeroOctane: are your repositorires set up correctly?04:40
Octaneyes they are sir.04:40
vinuxhey does anyone know of the name of the gnome cdrw software?04:40
xerohmmmm04:40
Octaneuniverse hoary security04:40
Octanei have those04:40
davidthanks ivoks04:40
ivoksEcho_Mage: lol, so little you know :)04:40
Octanenothign extas04:40
scott_all: my soundcard isn't working the output of amixer is listed here:http://pastebin.ca/1421104:40
Echo_MageAll I know is Nux rocks04:41
Madpilotvinux: gnomebaker?04:41
ivoksEcho_Mage: i takes one syn flood to take you down04:41
vinuxMadpilot, hmm let me check04:41
davidnice to know ivoks ;)04:41
Echo_Mageivoks: never said I knew it all04:41
jalystcan anyone point me to a good up-to-date guide for getting FreeNX server running on hoary?04:41
Echo_Mageivoks: only know what I need to know and how to find out what I want to know04:42
GskilletHas anyone here used FakeAP before?04:42
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ivoksthere is no rock solid solution for anything04:42
xeroOctane: i have it working on mine... i dont know which repository it gets it form... if i were to guess it would be the backports one.  my repositories are setup like the sources.list file from www.ubuntuguide.com but w/out the nerim one (i guess its broken)04:42
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bob2abarbaccia: define "broken"04:42
xeroso if you dont have it setup like those repositories then i would do that if i were you... the default ubuntu ones are iffy at best from what ive seen04:42
cb122nerim died thursday nite as far as I could tell04:42
ivoksxero: leave out backports too04:42
bob2abarbaccia: also, if it's from outside ubuntu, don't even try04:43
xeroivoks: why the backports? they seem good and working for me04:43
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ivoksxero: they aren't so good...04:43
xeroivoks: and from what i know they have some stuff that u can only get form there04:43
ivoksxero: they update libs04:43
ivoksxero: that's something backporting shouldn't do04:44
xerooh04:44
ivoksthat breaks other apps04:44
xerowell what do you use instead then? jeesh04:44
xero:-P04:44
ivoksnothing04:44
xerowell how would i get software from there that i need to use then?04:44
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bob2for example?04:45
Echo_MageSetup takes ages on this clunker it seems04:45
xerouh... cant remember for sure but i think vlc is from there... something w/ dvd::rip i think04:45
scott_all: I need help mounting my windows partition, it is listed as sda104:46
xerook no problem04:46
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xeroscott_ : http://ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs04:46
xeroand instead  of hda1 use the sda104:47
crimsunscott_: ok, looking04:47
xeroif thats the right partition04:47
scott_xero: I tried that already, with no avail04:47
scott_crimsun: thanks for your help04:47
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crimsunscott_: which model sblive? I need the lspci -v line04:48
xeroscott_: are you sure it is sda1? is there another sda listed when u fdisk -l ?04:48
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Octanewhy should we add backports to the list04:49
xeroOctane: from what iknow, they have some software that u cant get w/out them however ivoks said they update things that they shouldnot update04:49
scott_xero:http://pastebin.ca/1421304:49
scott_xero: thats my fdisk04:49
scott_crimsun:audigy 2 zs04:50
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crimsunscott_: amixer sset 'Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack' on04:50
daviddoes bittorrent come with ubuntu??04:50
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abbot45ok, ive got a partitioning question.  i have 2 seperate hard drives (10 & 40).  when i install ubuntu it wont let me have my home directory shared on both drives, so unless i use all 10 gigs of the other drive for OS stuff a bunch of space is going to waste.  How can i fix this?04:50
xeroscott_: it looks like ur windows partition is in fact sdb104:51
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xerobecause it says NTFS under the partition type04:51
scott_xero,crimsun: thanks for your guys help I have to go now I will try your solutions and get back to you04:51
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xerono prob04:51
GskilletHas anyone here used FakeAP before?04:51
abbot45can i not assign a home directory and just have both drives as root directory?04:52
bob2abbot45: what does "shared on both drives" mean?04:52
xerono what is it?04:52
bob2abbot45: you're trying to do mirroring?04:52
abbot45i dont know what that is.04:52
abbot45haha04:52
jbroomeGskillet: good to see you're still asking that.04:52
xerogskillet: what is fakeap?04:52
vinuxwoot frozen bubble rocks04:52
bob2abbot45: so, why don't you explain what you're trying to do04:53
jbroomesaturates the air with fake wireless accesspoints to throw off wardrivers04:53
Gskilletxero: it generates fake airports04:53
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xeroairports?!!  like the places where planes fly into?! i am already confused :-P04:53
Echo_MageFake wireless access points?04:54
seth_kyep, and fake planes too04:54
NinwaAre there any good podcasting clients in the ubuntu repository, anyone know offhand?04:54
abbot45what i am trying to fix is that when i install and put my root on the 10 gig drive it makes me assign my 40 gig drive with something different, like /home.  but that means that since my home is only on the 40 gig drive, there is a bunch of room on the 10 gig going to waste since i cant save stuff on it.  or am i wrong?04:54
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jbroomeNinwa: do a search for ipodder, that seems to be a good one04:54
jalystanyone here gotten FreeNX (server) running nicely on hoary?04:54
bob2abbot45: there's no simple way around that04:54
NinwaYeah I used that on windows, I hope its in the repository! :)04:54
xeroor do you mean like it makes a computer act as an access point?04:54
abbot45bob2, i figured as much.04:54
bob2abbot45: you could use LVM if you really cared04:55
NinwaNo dice! :( Oh well.04:55
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bob2abbot45: but then if one disk goes, you lose everything04:55
seth_kNinwa: if iPodder too hard, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4108504:55
abarbacciahey all - can someone help me find a deb that provides an sdl gui?04:55
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abbot45i think i may just deal with it.  if i had a bigger 2nd drive than 40gigs the extra space that im loosing wouldnt matter as much.04:56
Echo_MageDAMN how long does Ubuntu take to install04:56
bob2Echo_Mage: < 30 minutes04:56
xerodoes anybody know about using a gmail account and mounting it like as a partition?04:56
bob2depending on machine speed, of course04:56
concept10Echo_Mage, 20-25 mins on decent system04:56
bob2xero: it's really not worth it04:56
abarbacciaxero, its broken as of now - and not worth it04:56
bob2abarbaccia: "sdl gui"?04:56
Echo_Magebob2>wow this thing is a P3 500 with 64 megs of RAM how long you think that will take?04:57
abarbacciayes, i can't find it bob2 -- dont know the package name04:57
Echo_Mageconcept10: same question04:57
bob2Echo_Mage: go have some tea04:57
concept10Echo_Mage, how long has your installation been going?   p3 500 might take a while, low ram also04:57
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bob2abarbaccia: what is a "sdl gui"?04:57
concept10bob2, :)04:57
Echo_Magebob2, concept10: may go do that04:57
abarbacciasomething that eboxy is requiring to compile04:58
xerobob2: not worth it?! how do you figure?! a remote place to backup my files would be quite nice04:58
MadpilotEcho_Mage: took about 20-30 min on my 2.0Ghz 1Gb RAM machine - will take a fair bit longer on yours! :)04:58
bob2abarbaccia: what exactly does it say it needs?04:58
Echo_Magebob2, concept10:  how much HDD space does Ubuntu take up on a default install?04:58
bob2Echo_Mage: 1.8gb04:58
abarbacciaSDL_gui bob204:58
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concept10Okay, I was unsuccesful trying to get my older sister to run Ubuntu on her Powerbook G4, shes a mac freak, maybe I can convert my younger sister?04:59
Echo_Magebob2: means I'm gonna be cramped for space, HD on that system is only 4.3 GB04:59
abarbacciabob2, configure: error: *** SDL_gui library not found!04:59
bob2Echo_Mage: well, it goes down to 1.2gb after install04:59
IcemanV9concept10: show her what Ubuntu can do for her! :)05:00
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bob2abarbaccia: hm, interesting05:00
concept10Echo_Mage, time to upgrade that puppy05:00
abarbacciabob2, i know, i can't find any packages that provide it - even in sarge!05:00
Echo_Mageconcept10: My grandmother is on the verge of going to Nux as well, My grandpa is hard headed, don't trust anything he's never heard of05:00
syndconcept10: i say leave os x on macs.. ubuntu for everything else : )05:00
inc595anyone know the settings to autoload dvd in removable drives and media?05:01
bob2concept10: ubuntu on a powerbook g4 will suck in a couple of ways05:01
xeroyeah osx is awesome no need to run linux on it i think05:01
inc595i used to have them but I had to reinstall and lost 'em05:01
bob2concept10: no wireless, and no sleep (at least on nvidia-based machines)05:01
Echo_MageThey have PPC support for Ubuntu?05:01
concept10IcemanV9, I cant get my older sister to switch OS X is very good, but I gave her a live CD and she was saying what would I need this for? I thought it was amusing05:01
bob2Echo_Mage: of course!05:01
xerobob2: why will ubuntu suck ??05:01
bob2xero: as above05:01
xerooh damn05:01
Echo_MageSorry NOOBNESS HERE <-----------------------05:01
xeroyes they do05:01
xeroyeah my cuz who tried it on his powerbook said he had those 2 problems too05:02
concept10You should have saw the look on her face when ubuntu was booting on her system. She gave me that "What in the hell are you doing?" look05:02
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bob2abarbaccia: that's bizarre05:02
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IcemanV9concept10: ha. that WOULD be amusing! :))05:02
Echo_MageLOL I love it when people freak over a Live CD05:02
abarbacciabob2, indeed, im gonna try to find it and maybe compile it if all else fails05:02
bob2abarbaccia: it appears to be dead, tho05:02
concept10Echo_Mage, older people are like that.  I cant get my mom to touch a computer05:03
bob2abarbaccia: http://www.newimage.com/~rhk/SDL_gui/05:03
sutabiit says to update apt and I get this error while updateing:05:03
sutabiE: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.05:03
IcemanV9concept10: my father-in-law would not EVEN touch a computer *sheesh*05:03
Echo_Mageconcept10: I went to nux because fo WIN XP headaches and security issues05:03
bob2sutabi: you need to paste the whole error to #flood05:03
IcemanV9concept10: he thinks it's evil thing05:03
Fr0Gswere can i download ATI Drivers for a Radeon 9600XT 256mb05:03
bob2abarbaccia: what's "eboxy"?05:04
Fr0Gswere can i download ATI Drivers for a Radeon 9600XT 256mb05:04
Luakagonthank you for spending your time and minds on the problems of strangers05:04
JohnnyQuestmy dad(59) uses a computer more than me05:04
Fr0Gsmessage me05:04
Fr0Gsor just tell me05:04
bob2Fr0Gs: er, ubuntu installs them by default05:04
Fr0Gsyes but there slow05:04
bob2"they're"05:04
abarbacciabob2, this is all for my ubuntu-mythtv setup - its something used in a plugin someone wrote to burn TV shows to DVDs through a nice GUI05:04
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abarbacciabob2, so you dont have to author and do all that crap everytime through a shell05:04
Echo_MageMy Nvidia Card is monster fast on Mepis, got the newest driver for it straight out of the box05:05
concept10See that is unfortunate.  I promise to get my mom on the internet while she still has some good years.  She just doesnt understand the potential.  She thinks the internet is the same as BBSes from back in the day when I used to get in some real trouble.05:05
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sutabibob2, that was the error or you want the warnings too?05:05
bob2Fr0Gs: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto05:05
bob2sutabi: the whole output of apt05:05
Echo_Mageconcept10: my former step dad thought the same way05:05
sutabibob2, http://rafb.net/paste/results/2q3TsH89.html05:06
bob2bah05:06
sutabi?05:07
inc595any have xine autoloading a dvd?05:07
seth_kanyone want to try for a definitive answer on whether k7 or 686 kernel is better for an Athlon XP?05:07
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XNUKETHello All, Has anyone used Ubuntu on a MAC Powerbook G405:07
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abarbacciabob2, i found a bunch of rpm packages i think i can alien05:07
bob2sutabi: you're not using breezy, are you?05:07
scott-Hello All, Anyone run into this Postfix mail error?  mail for domainxxx.com loops back to myself05:07
bob2xero: lots of people have05:07
vinuxbrb all05:07
don-o_anyone know why dbus_g_bus_get is not in /usr/lib/libdbus-1.a on05:07
don-o_                ubuntu hoary?05:07
sutabibob2, no idea ^_-05:07
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concept10Echo_Mage, anyway, get some extra dollars and find some cheap ram and a bigger HD for that system.  it can probably be had for less than $50 if you look around05:07
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bob2scott-: purge and reinstall it, and use the config tool to generate your config05:07
xerobob2: haha so i see with XNUKET05:07
scott-Ubuntu runs great on my mac mini..05:07
XNUKETThe 504 ver05:08
bob2sutabi: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list05:08
RedstarHas anyone been able to get Kino to work with Ubuntu?!?05:08
xeroXNUKET: wireless and/or sleep problems?05:08
bob2seth_k: k705:08
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lamontscott-: it means that MX RR (or transport map entries...) point to you, but mydestination doesn't think it's local05:08
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man_exechey all05:08
lamontscott-: alternatively, there are two machines with the same value of 'myhostname'05:08
concept10Echo_Mage, I would send you one if I had some extra money, I have about 10-12 extra harddrives laying around05:08
Echo_Mageconcept10: will do very shortly05:08
xeroRedstar: what is Kino?05:09
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sutabibob2, http://rafb.net/paste/results/jkC9Hs59.html05:09
scott-thanks Lamount and Bob, my setting for my  mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain, localhost05:09
xeroEcho_Mage: did i hear free hardwrae?!?!05:09
bob2sutabi: get rid of the backports lines05:09
bob2sutabi: and change "us.archive" to "archive"05:10
man_execI'm looking for help in adding a module from alan cox's patchset to a hoary install.  can anyone talk me through it or point me to a thorough walk-thru, please?05:10
kaliasHi! I am in need of some sound/cd help.05:10
IcemanV9xero: Kino is a digital video editing program05:10
bob2man_exec: which one?05:10
jalysthas anyone here worked out how to get FreeNX server running on hoary?05:10
Redstarthat won't work.. it's loads and exists right away05:10
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robitaillejalyst,  http://ubuntu.ca/wiki/index.php/InstallingFreeNX    (but I haven't tried it myself)05:10
scott-lamont: that is correct my DNS has the FQDN and this machine is behind a Firewall with the same name.  I take it I should just change it.05:10
XNUKETI amuding wireless works, but on my Powerbook G4 no wireless. Any suggestionsl D600 and everything incl running Ubuntu Live on my Del05:10
man_execbob2: thanks...I"ve got a board with the ITE8212 controller onboard05:10
xeroIcemanV9: is it comparable to CoolEditPro in windows?05:11
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jalystyeah tried that, no go :-(05:11
sutabibob2, back ports?05:11
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kaliasnickrud:  Hey man :)05:11
bob2sutabi: oh man05:11
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bob2sutabi: you copied that from ubuntuguide, didn't you05:11
nickrudhi, kalias, how's life :)05:11
jalysti just thought someone may be lurking in forums an come accross somethin more up-to-date05:11
IcemanV9xero: dunno. never use it, but knew what it is. :) heard you can compare it to Final Cut Pro on Mac05:11
bob2without understanding what it is05:11
sutabibob2, =_= yes05:12
kaliasnickrud:  Life is good :) You?05:12
bob2someone fix the bloody thing05:12
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xeroxero: on  video stuff... i for whtaever was thinking audio im sorry05:12
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sutabibob2, its aa last of l;ink that tell me where to download applications05:12
nickrudchanging, moving to texas tomorrow05:12
bob2or people stop blidnly following things05:12
bob2sutabi: no, it's broken05:12
xerohaha ops i sent that to myself w00t that was slick05:12
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bob2sutabi: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list05:12
jalystso no-one else here has FreeNX server running on Hoary?!!?05:12
bob2jalyst: or they're waiting for you to get to your question05:13
sutabibob2, okay..05:13
bob2actually, nevermind05:13
jalystquestion is can someone point me to some doco that actually works05:13
bob2use the one you used to have05:13
bob2which you backed up05:13
bob2and don't believe anything in ubuntuguide yo udon't understand05:13
Redstariceman: if it would actually work! =(05:13
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sutabibob2, that I backed up... Uhh I backed up one? lol05:14
bob2oh well05:14
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IcemanV9<- just curious - what's happened to archive.ubuntu.com? hardware failure? or someone forgot to pay the bill??05:14
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nickrudmight have a chance to meat nalioth som time05:14
bob2IcemanV9: nothing is wrong with it05:14
bob2IcemanV9: us.archive is screwed05:14
seth_kbob2, can you point me to a source for that? not that I don't believe you, but it seems half the things I find say k7, half say 68605:14
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jalystbob2: have you got FreeNX server going, if so can you point me to some doco or outline some brief steps?05:15
bob2seth_k: no, sorry05:15
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bob2jalyst: no05:15
bob2seth_k: an athlon is a k7, tho05:15
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seth_kbob2, ok ^_^05:15
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inc595anyone got xine playing dvd when inserted?05:15
Madpilot686 = P4, doesn't it?05:16
thechitowncubsSometimes my screen just freezes but my mouse moves around, but nothing else happens, I can't do CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE or anything, and eventually i am forced to restart the computer by forcing the power button, I have read reports about the nvidia-glx package causing it, is there anyway to find out what is happening so that I can see if that is causing it or if it is something else?05:16
xerodoes anybody have dualmonitors running w/ fglrx drivers ?05:16
jalysthow does one go about setting-up there own ubuntu sub-channel05:16
xeroor any ati drivers for htat matter!05:16
concept10neat photo... airplane entertainment system booting linux airplane entertainment system system booting linux: http://www.flickr.com/photos/colinj/17308794/in/set-442295/05:17
Echo_MageSorry guys I'm away, playing gnometris on other machine05:17
IcemanV9Madpilot: yep. i have kernel-686 running on P405:17
Rytetshey05:17
NinwaiPodder seems to have a lot of dependencies that I can't meet. It needs 2.3 and needs for 2.4 to be uninstalled... That sucks.05:17
jalystwant to get something like Ubuntu-FreeNX going, this general ubuntu help has got whiskers on it05:17
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MadpilotIcemanV9: thought so. AMD machines are all I've ever owned...05:18
lamontscott-: yes.  no two machines should ever have the same value for myhostname (esp if one is going to talk to the other...) - since that's the check that tells the mailer that it's talking to itself....05:18
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scott-lamount: so if I have this mailserver behind my firewall I should just change the host name and all should be good to go?05:19
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jalystl05:20
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xerohey does anybody here know if ubuntu needs some more mirrors or something?05:20
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inc595evil xine05:21
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vinuxhey all what's a good firewall to get?05:21
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Kamping_Kaiserxero, probably no one here does05:21
filosofhi all , can somebody tell me please how the php installation (from source) cannot find libxml2 when it's installed ?05:21
xerovinux: i dont really use one (cringe)  but ive heard firestarter is good05:22
vinuxxero, cool hacking your system now. LOL Just Joking!!! I would probably end up hacking my own system and messing it up. And probably the police would trow me in Jail too05:23
vinuxhmm05:23
xerohhaa05:23
xerohow would you hack my system?05:23
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_kazspeaking of firewalls... I wonder why there isn't a good APPLICATION firewall for linux yet.05:23
vinuxLOl I have no idea I'm a newbie05:24
resiakxero: with a 28.8bps modem!!!!!!111105:24
xerohaha riite05:24
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davidhello, my question: where can i get active-x for mozilla?05:24
xerobring it on05:24
_kazie Zone Alarm/Tiny/Kerio, for linux.05:24
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seth_kdavid: ahhhhhhhh!05:24
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filosofdid somebody tried install PHP5 manualy from source ?05:24
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vinuxxero, my system is so easy to hack! I even know the password05:24
IcemanV9inc595: system > preferences > removable drives and media - if you want to have xine starts instead of totem :)05:25
Madpilotdavid: I'm pretty certain you can't. Thank Dog.05:25
sproingieit's hard.  device drivers in linux can't pop up dialogs05:25
seth_kdavid: no such thing at ALL05:25
sproingieer that was directed to _kaz05:25
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sproingiemost of these firewalls hook into the driver interface in windows, which has the layered SPI interface05:25
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xerovinux: really.... horray for u05:25
lorzhas anybody used fetchyahoo?05:25
davidhow do i get cedega working them05:25
_kazI saw one on sourceforge... forgot what its was called though... tuxsomething or somethingtux05:25
sproingiethe only thing that comes close to that other than STREAMS is netgraph05:25
xeroi can hack anything if i have local access to the mahcine05:26
vinuxxero, hehe05:26
davidxero: 192.168.1.11105:26
xerohaha oh what a wonderful LOCAL ip05:26
IIIEars_New user question #101 - How do i match a process to the amount of ram it is using :?05:26
xero:-P05:26
xerodavid: i can tell u that u have a linksys router :-P05:26
lorzhas anybody used fetchyahoo?05:26
sproingieIIIEars_: top05:27
nEEdHelPhi everyone... someone can tell me how to fix my bootrecord?05:27
Chameleon22when i look an some sites with firefox, the fonts appear to be to small, but when i look at the same site with IE or Konqueror fonts seem ok, is there way to fix this problem?05:27
IIIEars_Very nice! - Sproingie you are awesome.05:27
nEEdHelPI cant boot via windows xp... just by ubuntu05:27
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xerooh wait that was a test question...05:27
sproingieIIIEars_: for one process, try ps u <pid>05:27
nEEdHelPgrub isnt working05:28
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IIIEars_sproingie - Thank You.05:28
Madpilotwell, that was novel. X just crashed on me...05:28
nEEdHelPi installed lilo but it just boot ubuntu05:28
_kazah here it is... tuxguardian http://sourceforge.net/projects/tuxguardian/05:28
xeronEEdHelp: is there an option in grub for your winxp setup and doesnt boot to it or no?05:28
_kazhttp://tuxguardian.sourceforge.net/05:28
quamxero: if you've used something like partition magic to make the winxp partition hidden, even grub wont add it to the list to load05:29
sproingiewell if you installed lilo, grub ain't gonna work.  run grub-install to take lilo out05:29
quamneedhelp: did you use a partition manager like partition magic?05:29
nEEdHelPyes05:29
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nEEdHelPthe first time i installed ubuntu could choose the boot05:30
quamyou'll need to use another partitioning program and set the windows drive unhidden if you hid it during partition magic partition setup05:30
xeroquam: on really didnt know that.... does it hide it by default when you splice off a new partition?05:30
sproingieah, tuxguardian uses LSM, and presumably there's providers for network05:30
R0d0lf0nEEdHelP go here: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WindowsDualBootHowTo/view?searchterm=partimage05:30
FR500hello05:30
sproingiemodular security providers are nice05:30
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quamxero: if you tell partition magic you want to install another os, it asks you if you're going to do it right away or od it later. if you choose do it right away, it hides the windows partition so when you reboot it goes to the partition of the new os05:30
xerooh darn hmm05:31
quami had to unhide mine with qtpart or whatever it's called and then reinstall grub so it would see it05:31
FR500one lil question, i changed my gnome splash to reflect my current theme's whiteness, but when i login, i still get that brown behind my whiteish splash, how can i change that color05:31
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xerowhen i set one up for a friend i just spliced of the right amount05:31
SantasLittleHelpHi guys. I'm having some difficulties installing a driver for my wireless card. It's a RT2500. I tried to follow the instruction on the wiki, but failed when I tried to install libqt3-dev. Can anyone guide me through that step? Just recently installed Ubuntu.05:31
nEEdHelPLet me explain what happened....05:31
xeroand then from there went in w/ the installcd and installed it on that partition05:31
Chameleon22when i look an some sites with firefox, the fonts appear to be to small, but when i look at the same site with IE or Konqueror fonts seem ok, is there way to fix this problem?05:31
quamneedhelp: did you tell partition you were going to install another os, and that you were going to do it right away? if so, it hid your windows partition05:32
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IIIEars_xero - if in the unlikely (very unlikely) event that things look bad. - check out the dd command, linux fdisk, or possibly qtparted on a live linux CD.05:32
Echo_MageOkay I'm confused, why are ther no Icons on the desktop in Ubuntu05:32
FR500Echo_Mage, it's only a configuration05:32
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quamears, needhelp is the one with the problem, xero is the one helping him :P05:33
xeroIIIEars_: will those be able to partition off segments of a previous partition?05:33
Echo_MageHow do you get the Icons on the desktop so I feel a little at home05:33
quamears: i think :p05:33
jamesmdoes ubuntu have a netinstall cd?05:33
FR500Echo_Mage, it's at www.ubuntuguide.org05:33
xerowell i am interested mainly in b/c i just did this for a friend05:33
xerohe didnt have an problems though which confuses me05:33
nEEdHelPWhen i installed ubuntu first time GRUB used ask me which OS i wanted to boot. but i need format ubuntu partition then i installed lilo... but lilo just start ubuntu... it dosent ask me what OS i want05:34
xerousing partitionmagic in windows to sect of a part of his windows partition. and then from there installed linux on it05:34
IIIEars_nEEdHelP - if in the unlikely (very unlikely) event that things look bad. - check out the dd command, linux fdisk, or possibly qtparted on a live linux CD.05:34
quamwhy would you install grub and lilo :P05:34
jbroomeso it boots twice as fast?05:34
vinuxwhat's a good antivirs program for ubuntu?05:34
quamhaha jbroome05:34
quamantivirus, for linux? :P05:34
Octanesomeone needs to package the new nvidia drivers05:34
FR500vinux, there are not many viruses that can attack you05:34
xeroneedhelp: why did you use lilo? did grub not work?05:34
nEEdHelPyes05:35
vinuxFR500, yea I know but I like being safe :)05:35
xerohmm05:35
FR500why are the fonts rendered so dirty on my card?05:35
xeroive never messed w/ lilo so i honestly dont think i can help ya05:35
nEEdHelPgrub was confused because i formated and resized the ubuntu's partition05:35
IIIEars_vinux - there aren't many viruses out there for linux. virus writers are focused on windows. - Still worried try "clam" anti virus.05:36
R0d0lf0nEEdHelP bro, i'm telling you the answer about how to fix that is here ---> Just read it : http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WindowsDualBootHowTo/view?searchterm=partimage05:36
quami did lilo years ago. i prefer the loaders with graphical setup05:36
nEEdHelPok05:36
vinuxIIIEars_, cool thanks05:36
nEEdHelPi'm going check this out05:36
R0d0lf0good05:36
SantasLittleHelpBeen trying to install the wireless card driver for about 3hrs now, with no luck. =\05:37
FR500how can i change the colo behind the splash screen theme05:37
FR500SantasLittleHelp, what card?05:37
xerowhat card?05:37
SantasLittleHelpRT2500.05:37
IIIEars_xero - Thanks - I just "kill"ed a RAM hog. :)05:38
FR500what brand is that?05:38
nEEdHelPjust one more question....05:38
SantasLittleHelpRalinkTech.05:38
SantasLittleHelpYes, I followed the instructions listed on the website, but I had one small problem.05:38
xeroIIIEars_ : sudo killall 'appname'05:38
IIIEars_xero - the ps "u" switch was a sniper rifle.05:39
SantasLittleHelp"sudo apt-get install qt3-dev qt3-dev-tools"...failed. I tried libqt3-dev, failed as well.05:39
nEEdHelPI have a DOSboot diskette... should i boot from it and use the /fixmbr command to clean GRUB?05:39
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FR500SantasLittleHelp, do u use ndiswrapper?05:39
madsenOi!05:39
IIIEars_nEEdHelP - sure that should work.05:39
madsenI've got a little problem with Xorg and drop-shadows...05:39
FR500.05:40
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SantasLittleHelpI tried to use ndiswrapper.05:40
xeroFR500 i heard ndiswrapper blows bigtime but if its the only thing that works then whatever05:40
SantasLittleHelpFailed.05:40
SantasLittleHelpAppears I need dhcpcd.05:40
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xerodhclient05:40
xerodhcpcd --> dhclient05:40
SantasLittleHelpBecause..it's not my own network that I'm connecting to. my neighbor's unsecured wireless network.05:40
nEEdHelPthanks everyone... i'm going to try resolve the problem05:40
madsenI've followed the wiki guide for DropShadows, but no luck. :( xcompmgr keeps telling me the composite extension isn't loaded even though the logfiles for Xorg say it is.05:41
xero:-P w00t for wireless stealing!!!05:41
SantasLittleHelpHit 400gb last month.05:41
FR500xero, actually ndiswrapper rocks unless you need monitor mode and that stuff05:41
FR500it's a good piece of sw05:41
xerohmm05:41
lakinIt's not wireless stealing.  His neighbor is giving it away for free.05:41
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xerolakin: good point :-D05:41
SantasLittleHelpPurely educational purposes.05:41
madsenNo one experienced with the drop-shadows problem?05:41
Madpilotyeah, but his neighbour is an idiot... ;)05:42
toresbewell, fucking duh :P05:42
FR500SantasLittleHelp, are you able to set essid and get ap bssid?05:42
toresbeIt's not stealing.05:42
SantasLittleHelpYes.05:42
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FR500SantasLittleHelp, then type dhclient05:42
FR500and voila05:42
bob2madsen: try asking on the user list05:42
bob2toresbe: CoC05:42
TokenBadhmm..weird...i can save files from mozilla to my one drive..but from azureus I can't05:42
TokenBadweird stuff05:42
toresbeevery 100ms, the AP sends out "HEY look at me I'm named default plz connect k? thanks"05:42
SantasLittleHelpOkay. I'll give it a try.05:42
xeroif u need to run dhcpcd then just use the command 'dhclient' its the same thing from what i know05:42
bob2madsen: (COmposite is kinda nasty and slow and unstable, too)05:42
madsenbob2: Hmm, ok...05:42
madsenbob2: Yeah, I know, but I'd still like to try it out. (Coming from plain Debian there's a lot of stuff in Ubuntu I've never tried.)05:43
Matthew_WMy laptop refuses to properly detect my battery with ACPI.  Gbattstat returns unknown battery klaptop returns no battery, dmesg returns AE_NOT_FOUND 100,000 times, and ACPI -V returns Thermal data, and AC data, but no battery data, help.05:43
bob2madsen: yeah, fair enough05:43
xeroanybody wanna trade a nvidia 5900 for a ati9700??05:43
bob2Matthew_W: do you have the battery module loaded?05:43
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FR500Why are the fonts at gnome terminal rendered like c*ap05:44
Matthew_Wbob2:  Where would I find that.. synaptic?  Because the battery monitor prog is indeed running, but... not detecting my battery05:44
WebMavenI got an MD5 error in synaptic.05:44
SantasLittleHelpCurrently making a transition to Linux. I was a hardcore Windows fanboy. -.-05:44
bob2Matthew_W: "lsmod | grep battery", in a terminal...what does it print out (if anything)?05:44
FR500SantasLittleHelp, did it work?05:44
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WebMavenwho do I talk to?05:44
Matthew_Wsantas: 16 years running windoze.05:44
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madsenUh, one more thing... After I did the upgrade from Warty to Hoary I get kernel panic when booting kernel 2.6.10... Do I need to pass it some devfs=mount in grub or something?05:45
SantasLittleHelpBeen 6 or 7 years for me. I need to grab the driver. =\05:45
bob2WebMaven: edit the repository list so you're not using us.archive.ubuntu.com05:45
madsen(I upgraded from Warty to Hoary because my hoary cds haven't arrived yet.)05:45
bob2madsen: with a default kernel?05:45
madsenbob2: Yup05:45
Matthew_Wbob2:    battery                     10244  005:45
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bob2madsen: (upgrading is fine and encouraged....when you stick the hoary cd into a warty system, it will offer to upgrade off the cd, no less)05:45
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SnowWriteI just built a server with ubuntu.. squid.. awstats.. webmin.. zope and plone..05:45
bob2madsen: what does "dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n1" print out?05:46
bob2SnowWrite: are you a zope programmer, or are you just using plone?05:46
FR500SnowWrite, u need Hula for mail!05:46
SnowWritei'm having problems with webmin "seeing" my server configs.. have to add stuff manually05:46
Madpilotlater, all.05:46
madsenbob2: Well, fine. Then I just have to wait for the Hoary cds to arrive. :-p ;)05:46
SnowWritei'm a plone developer..05:46
bob2SnowWrite: oh, cool05:46
IIIEars_nEEdHelp - nah i bet you set a good password ;) - don't worry the people here are friendly and helpful. (only 6 weeks at this myself)05:46
SnowWritenot a strong programmer though.. fair warning.. been working with Plone for 3 years.. just build a server for a local school district05:46
Matthew_Wbob2:  any ideas based on that?05:47
WebMavenbob2, what should it use?05:47
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madsenbob2: 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n1' says:05:47
madsenii  libc6          2.3.2.ds1-20ub GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone05:47
bob2WebMaven: just archive.ubnutu.com (us. is screwed atm)05:47
bob2madsen: hm, ok05:47
WebMavenOK.05:47
IIIEars_nEEdHelp - okay give me a sec. i'll get the link and type the command here.05:47
bob2Matthew_W: it sounds like your hardware just isn't supported yet (at a guess; I'm no expert)05:47
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bob2Matthew_W: if you can file a bug on the "linux" product (http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com), that would be great05:48
FR500how can i change the default brown color that appears on the background after loggining into gdm to something i like?05:48
xeroFR500: let me know once u figure that out05:48
Matthew_Wbob2:  some people have apparently had this problem with every other distro of linux imaginable (I've had it with mandrake, mandriva, redhat, suse, kubuntu, and ubuntu...)05:48
bob2FR500: right click on the background05:48
FR500bob2, wont work05:48
madsenFR500: What happens?05:48
bob2FR500: how do you mean?05:48
caonexi would like to install a kernel image from ubuntu repositories but i do not want to do it from apt-get since it has some conflicts and it is trying to download different images, could i just download from ubuntu the package and install it with dpkg without a problem?05:49
bob2Matthew_W: yeah, some hardware just isn't supported yet05:49
FR500bob2, it's apllied a bit later05:49
FR500so the default brown is shown behind my white splash05:49
bob2Matthew_W: the problem seems to be most manufacturers don't comply with the ACPI spec very strictly, just enough so windows works.  so linux needs to emulate how windows works, in addition to the spec05:49
bob2or so I gather05:49
bob2Matthew_W: but if you can file a bug, the acpi wizards can probably get it to work05:49
bob2FR500: oh, you mean during login?05:50
FR500my yes05:50
FR500i think i got it05:50
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FR500there is a "no wallpaper" wallpaper that might be it05:50
Matthew_Wbob2:  just a nuisance to have my laptop suddenly die.  There's something about a DSDT?   Do you know anything about this?05:50
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Matthew_Wbob2:  on an off topic question, how does one make a program run on startup?05:51
caonexwhere can i download the kernel-images*.deb from ubuntu?05:51
FR500Matthew_W, in gnome?05:51
Matthew_Wfr5: yeah05:51
bob2Matthew_W: DSDT is code stored on the machine that explains to the kernel how the hardware fits together, I think05:51
Matthew_WFR500: ** yeah05:51
bob2Matthew_W: someimtes it's wrong, so people have made patched ones which sometimes help05:52
bob2Matthew_W: at login or boot?05:52
FR500Matthew_W, in System-administration-gnome-session05:52
Matthew_Wbob2:  Yeah, i recompiled my kernel in mandrake to include a modified DSDT -- but.. I don't know it just seemed to slow down my entire system.05:52
bob2oh, wow05:53
caonexwhere can i download ubuntu packages from?05:53
FR500brb05:53
bob2Matthew_W: oh, when you do file that bug, include the model number and stuff, and set it to CC mjg59@codon.org.uk05:53
bob2caonex: you don't want kernel-image-*05:53
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madsenbob2: It worked with devfs=mount hehe. :)05:54
madsenWoh! Ubuntu Hoary boots _really_ fast compared to e.g. Debian!05:54
bob2madsen: er, that's weird, ubuntu doesn't use devfs05:54
xeroso yeah wait how do u make things start when gnome starts?05:54
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xeroi did it once but i forgot05:54
FR500bob2, any clues, it didnt work05:54
madsenbob2: Hmm... Odd... Might have been something else then...05:54
caonexbob2, what do i want?05:55
bob2xero: system -> preferences -> session05:55
madsenbob2: I'll try next time without devfs=mount then. ;)05:55
caonexbob2, i need one like the ubuntu installs05:55
bob2caonex: what are you trying to do?05:55
bob2madsen: heh05:55
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bob2caonex: hrm? it's installed by default.05:55
xerobob2: awesome ok thanks05:55
caonexbob2, install a kernel like the one that comes with ubuntu preinstalled using dpkg05:55
agilhalo05:55
caonexbob2, there is a bug that messed mine up05:55
FR500bob2, do you think it's a "root" option05:55
knapjackAnyone know of a good channel for general wireless support?05:55
IIIEars_nEEdHelp - okay jeez i lost my note and these are just plain confusing. - sorry. - linux or dos fdisk is fine. - was trying to be helpful :/  http://aplawrence.com/Bofcusm/481.html http://www.balug.org/ml/balug-talk/msg01780.html05:55
agilhalo05:56
caonexbob2, i do not have the image nor the initrd in this computer05:56
bob2caonex: sudo apt-get install linux-2.605:56
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bob2FR500: I don't know what you're doing05:56
bob2FR500: if you're trying to modify the login images, you do need to modify some packaged files, afaik05:56
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xerobob2: how about durring startup? b/c for whatever reason i dont think that ssh starts when i boot my desktop :-.05:56
bob2knapjack: here, if you're using ubuntu05:56
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bob2xero: install openssh-server05:56
FR500bob2, when you loggin, there is the splash screen, on it's back there is a browncolor05:56
FR500i changed the splash image05:57
dukenhow to mirroring archive ubuntu ?05:57
caonexbob2, and apt-get did not do it becuase it was doing some conflicts......bob, i do not have internet in that one05:57
FR500but the brown color still remains the same05:57
dukenstep by step05:57
agilsex05:57
agiledan05:57
bob2caonex: how on earth did you get conflicts?05:57
FR500bob2, splashes are here /usr/share/pixmaps/splash/05:57
dukenbut just arch i38605:57
xerobob2: oh damn i thought it was done on default05:57
bob2duken: use debmirrors05:57
nEEdHelPthanks IIIEars05:57
knapjackbob2: I am using Ubuntu, but my problem is on OSX :)05:57
madsenFR500: I think you have to change something in the GDM theme then.05:57
bob2xero: it is, if you install openssh-server05:57
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FR500madsen, my gdm theme is white :p05:58
black13how do tell if package has been installed05:58
nEEdHelPiiiears; i'm studing the info you sent me... thank you05:58
xerobob2: just did05:58
caonexbob2, i do not know some people have been getting the same thing, ask nickrud05:58
bob2black13: look for it in synaptic05:58
nickrudlol05:58
black13apt-cache search libexpat05:58
black13does nothing05:58
madsenFR500: Hmm... Try checking out the gdm theme and see if there are any brown colors anywhere.05:58
caonexbob2, it kept telling me that it could not create an initrd, that my grub did not support initrd, and i had the image installed already05:58
dukenbob2 how to use it05:58
black13bob2, synaptic?05:58
FR500ok05:59
bob2caonex: what does "dpkg -l libc6 | awk /^ii/ '{print $3}' print out?05:59
nickrudhah, I just happened to be listening05:59
bob2duken: it has a man page...05:59
bob2black13: the package install queue05:59
bob2er, too, not queue05:59
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Echo_MageWell thats neat, even on that old clunker, Ubuntu seems to run well05:59
xeroEcho_Mage: what display manager?05:59
bob2duken: time debmirror -m -h au.archive.ubuntu.com -p -v --nosource --method=ftp -r /ubuntu/ -d warty,hoary,breezy --section=main,restricted --arch=i386  ./ubuntu/05:59
Echo_MageGnome06:00
caonexbob2, everytime i did apt-get update and install anything, the error would come again and until yesterday it ruined my images and was not able to boot. For my luck i had compiled a kernel but this one does not let the nic work, even when they have built in support compiled06:00
bob2duken: that's how I run it06:00
caonexbob2, one second.06:00
dukenok thx bob06:00
caonexbob2, i am doing this by phone, no internet, no nic06:00
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Echo_Magexero: the default that comes with Ubuntu06:00
jmslanyone here happen to hack/build firefox?06:00
Fr0Gswhat version of X.Org or XFREE86 does ubuntu use06:00
WebMavenbob2, thank you, that fixed it.06:01
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bob2WebMaven: cool06:01
Fr0Gswhat version of X.Org or XFREE86 does ubuntu use06:01
xeroEcho_Mage: so gnome :-) does it like run really slow or somehting?06:01
agilhello06:01
kafeineFr0Gs, warty or hoary?06:01
whiprushFr0Gs: 6.8.206:01
bob2Fr0Gs: 6.8.206:01
agilit agil06:01
IcemanV9Fr0Gs: 6.8.2 for Xorg06:01
Fr0Gsok06:01
Fr0Gsso there is no xfree8606:01
WebMavenbob2, what exactly is wrong with us.archive.ubuntu.com, anyway?06:01
agili am agil06:01
xerohaha i guess he got the point06:01
Echo_Magexero: hard drive access time are slow but other than that it works great06:01
xerokewl06:01
xeroi remember starting firefox and waiting a while06:02
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Fr0Gsso there is no xfree86 bob206:02
bob2WebMaven: I don't know.  it's not just out of date, things are actually corrupt...maybe their disk is failing or something.06:02
IcemanV9Fr0Gs: there is, but almost no one uses it06:02
Fr0Gslol06:02
Fr0Gsok06:02
Echo_Magexero that machine should be good for the kids when they want to play a game06:02
WebMavenbob2, how long has this been a problem?06:02
Echo_Magegotta download more for it tho06:02
johnnybezakhey guys i've got a ".img" file that I need to extract or whatever you do with a dot image file how can I open it?06:02
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kvidellIt's a cd image?06:02
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agili am agil06:03
bob2WebMaven: a few days now.  I take it someone has contact the admins of tha, and the ubuntu.com admins have been contacted, too06:03
Echo_MageGonna need to find a way to hook it up to my network tho, not sure if it will replace Mepis tho06:03
johnnybezakkvidell: how do i open it>? or do i mount it06:03
agilhello agil06:03
kvidellis it a cd image?06:03
madsenHmm, this may be a trivial problem... When I try to go find my favourite extensions for Firefox I get redirected to a Firefox 1.0.4 download... Can't install the extensions. :-/06:03
johnnybezakkvidell: yeah, its got some installation media on it06:03
kvidellmount -lo image /place/to/mount I think06:03
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bob2johnnybezak: sudo modprobe loop ; sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop ./foo.img /mnt06:04
kafeinemadsen, edit your about:config06:04
Strifejust out of curiosity, why does it seem like ubuntu packages aren't updated very often with hoary?06:04
WebMavenbob2, OK, good. Is there an ETA for a fix, or should I just keep using archive.ubuntu.com permanently?06:04
madsenkafeine: How? Or rather, what should I edit?06:04
kafeinesec06:04
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Strifee.g., gaim is v. 1.1.4, whereas the current release of gaim is v. 1.3.106:05
bob2WebMaven: I don't know, sorry06:05
jamesmdoes ubuntu have xfce 4.2?06:05
kafeinemadsen, general.useragent.vendorSub06:05
kvidellbob2: does mount -lo not do the same thing or is your way just more... guarenteed to work?06:05
kafeinemake it 1.0.406:05
madsenkafeine: Hehe, clever! :)06:05
WebMavenbob2, OK. Is there a page on the ubuntu.org site with a notice?06:05
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caonexbob2, it says: 2.3.2.dsl-20ub06:05
kafeinewe be geeks here, after all06:05
johnnybezakbob2: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop006:05
bob2WebMaven: not that I know of06:05
caonexbob2, sorry took so long but by phone with my dad....06:05
filosofcan somebody tell me please where zlib is placed in Ubuntu ?06:06
bob2kvidell: I didn't know mount had a -lo option06:06
kvidelljohnnybezak: did my method fail as well?06:06
bob2filosof: zlib0g06:06
WebMavenbob2, OK, I'll just check back here in the channel in a few days, then.06:06
caonexbob2, is that what you were looking for?06:06
bob2filosof: what are yo utrying to compile?06:06
bob2caonex: yes06:06
WebMavenbob2, thanks again.06:06
bob2caonex: I don't know what the problem could be, sorry06:06
bob2WebMaven: np06:06
agilhello06:06
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kvidellI thought it did.. it might be --loop that I'm thinking of06:06
agilhello06:06
caonexbob2, so where can i download the .deb for the image06:06
caonex?06:06
bob2johnnybezak: what does "file foo.img" say?06:06
filosof bob2  PHP , and it ask about zlib directory06:06
kvidellIt's been awhile since I've had to do that kind of mounting.06:06
agiliam agil06:06
kvidellI only do it to check initrd images.06:06
bob2filosof: you know php is in ubuntu, right06:07
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bob2caonex: packages.ubuntu.com/linux-image-2.6.10-5-38606:07
agildo you have cheat ps06:07
filosof bob2  yes i know , but i want to compile it from source with my own options06:07
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IcemanV9jamesm: xfce 4.2.1.1-2ubuntu2 006:07
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bob2filosof: why?06:07
holycowhey guys, i get a high pitched sound from my speakers whenever alsa starts, when i stop alsa it goes away06:07
johnnybezakbob2: boot.img x86 boot sector06:07
bob2filosof: which module isn't in ubuntu?06:07
thoreauputichmm.. hope someone has some ideas: my latest kernel update is unbootable and I've had to fall back to a warty kernel..06:07
holycowany idea how to debug such a thing?06:07
IIIEars_bob2 - amazing. - guru status. - nice06:07
bob2johnnybezak: so, it's not a cd image06:07
kaliasnickrud: I am back.06:07
jamesmthanks IcemanV906:07
bob2johnnybezak: what is it and what are you trying to do with it?06:07
levander`How do I find out what the last four packages updated on my machine were? I want to verify they installed correctly.06:07
bob2levander`: how did you update them?06:08
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thoreauputicI get a hang at "starting enterprise volume management"06:08
caonexbob2, could you at least tell me where to get the package file, since i do not have internet and need to take it to the computer?06:08
kafeinelevander`, you should have some logs of it06:08
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thoreauputicand the kernal won't go any further06:08
bob2caonex: er, I did06:08
filosof bob2  just want to compile it in my own way :-) anyway where the zlib directory is placed in Ubuntu ?06:08
levander`bob2: sudo apt-get upgrade ; sudo apt-get update06:08
caonexbob2, oh i see sorry06:08
bob2thoreauputic: does taking that out of the boot sequence help? (sudo rm /etc/rc2.d/S*evms)06:09
levander`kafeine: where are these logs?06:09
kaliasHow do you tell if your sound card is properly configured?06:09
bob2levander`: then it's not logged anywhere, sorry06:09
johnnybezakbob2: i need it for doing a debian usb install, its got a kernel and some other stuff on there06:09
bob2kalias: can you play music?06:09
bob2johnnybezak: so, dump it on a usb disk06:09
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bob2levander`: aptitude does log it, yet another reason to use it :P06:09
bob2IIIEars_: hm?06:09
levander`bob2: where does it get logged if you use the update notifier thingy ubuntu put in there with hoary06:09
kaliasno I can't seem to play anything.  I tried the solution in the unoffical guide and that didn't work either.06:09
IIIEars_NICE WORK!! :)06:09
bob2levander`: I don't think that logs it, either06:09
thoreauputicbob2: I'll try that - so far I've chrooted in and installed 2.6.8.1-4 9which doesn't fully work but at least boots)06:09
levander`is update notifier the same as aptitude?06:10
caonexbob2, if it tells me to configure initrd because it cannot create image, what should i do? this is the problem i have been getting for a week now.06:10
bob2thoreauputic: ah, ok06:10
bob2levander`: no06:10
bob2caonex: I don't know06:10
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bob2caonex: I can't imagine how you could get that without doin gmajorly silly things06:10
thoreauputicbob2: thanks for theidea - I'm going to try it now :)06:10
bob2(whicI assume you haven't done, or you'd have mentioned it)06:10
levander`is there a way to check what the last twenty packages updated by ubuntu in their repositories were?06:10
johnnybezakbob2: just put her on there?06:10
bob2levander`: yes, http://lists.ubuntu.com/, the changes lists06:11
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kaliasbob2: I installed xmms and alsa with no success.06:11
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bob2johnnybezak: dd if=/foo.img of=/dev/sdX06:11
levander`caonex: gimme a few seconds, i gotta link to mkinitrd instructions06:11
bob2johnnybezak: make sure you get sdX correct, or you will toast a disk06:11
bob2kalias: ignore that06:11
bob2kalias: what does "fuser -v /dev/snd/*" print?06:11
levander`caonex: take a few, it's in my /etc versioning repository06:11
johnnybezakbob2: what06:11
bob2kalias: (in #flood)06:11
bob2johnnybezak: ?06:11
caonexbob2, i did not do anything....just install some other programs, but never touched kernel06:11
johnnybezakbob2: what is that dd command all about06:11
bob2johnnybezak: I'm pretty sure the debian install guide explains how to do this06:11
Matthew_Wbob2:  how long does bug reporting normally take06:12
bob2caonex: what programs? from where?06:12
johnnybezakbob2: :P06:12
Matthew_Wbob2:  I posted it, I mean the reply06:12
bob2Matthew_W: to report? < 2 minutes.06:12
bob2Matthew_W: depends06:12
caonexbob2, universe and multiuniverse, amsn and i think that was it06:12
kaliasbob2:/dev/snd/*: No such file or directory06:12
bob2filosof: sudo apt-get build-dep php06:12
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bob2filosof: bear in mind, this is highly silly; php in ubuntu has *every* module (bar like 3) enabled already06:12
bob2filosof: plus, if you compile it yourself, you need to keep track of security updates06:13
caonexbob2, nothing bad i guess and i even commented everything out after the error and just started working with the ubuntu supported repositories, but still go the error.06:13
flodineanyone on 64 bit ubuntu06:13
bob2caonex: very odd06:13
bob2kalias: well, that would be the start of your problems ;)06:13
bob2kalias: what sound card do you have?06:13
caonexbob2, i just know i am not the first, because nickrud told someone had come to the channel with the same problem.06:13
bob2johnnybezak: dd is the tool used to dum pthe install image onto the disk06:13
kaliasbob2: I will have to crack the box open and take a look.06:13
johnnybezakbob2: can't i just copy it06:13
bob2caonex: most of the other people with initrd problems did highly silly things like use the backports libc6, or partially upgrading to breezy06:13
bob2kalias: "lspci | grep Multi" is enough06:14
bob2johnnybezak: no06:14
caonexbob2, i do not know. It is just messing me up because for some reason with the one i compiled the nics do not work so i cannot do anything to it and have to tell my dad over the phone who does not know anything about linux. Imagine.06:14
bob2johnnybezak: your bios is in charge of booting the usb stick...do you think it knows how to read ext2?06:14
levander`caonex: sorry, it ended up i didn't have to do that mkinitrd because I decided my CD drive failed  and it wasn't software, didn't save that link anywhere06:14
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caonexlevander`, its ok06:14
kaliasbob2: blank it gave me nothing.06:15
johnnybezakbob2: hehe sure... ok how do i find out what X is in /dev/sdaX the disk just automounted06:15
bob2kalias: ouch06:15
JohnnyQuestcan anyone make a suggestion for a fix for this error?06:15
JohnnyQuestmythtv-setup: error while loading shared libraries: libmythtv-0.18.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory06:15
bob2johnnybezak: the output of "mount"06:15
kaliasbob2: I take it that is not good.06:15
johnnybezakbob2: roger that06:15
bob2kalias: well, it means you don't have a pci sound card06:15
FR500wow gdesklet is very heavy06:15
bob2JohnnyQuest: it means that mythtv wasn't installed properly06:15
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kaliasbob2: will linux support that?06:15
bob2kalias: yes06:16
kaliasbob2: I imagine is must be an isa card.06:16
Matthew_WHow are there that many people in this channel and only this many talking? lol.06:16
filosof bob2  i am kind on half way now, and want to finish it the some way i started :-) can you please tell me how to find this zlib in system ?06:16
JohnnyQuesti know that bob06:16
bob2kalias: but I don't know the details06:16
JohnnyQuestim installling it...06:16
JohnnyQuestand thats the error ig et installing it06:16
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bob2kalias: maybe try searching the wiki or asking on the mailing list06:16
kaliasbob2: oh, bummer. I will take a look.06:16
bob2filosof: run the command I gave you06:16
levander`damn, there were too many updates around the time i last updated my system, even though I only updated four, there are a *lot* that were updated around that time06:17
holycowwhat package contains the alsa daemon that puts the startup script in init.d dir?06:18
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bob2kalias: yes, not showing up in lspci means it's not a pci card, which means lspci won't detect it ;)06:18
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levander`am guessing they froze stuff for the hoary release, then when the freeze was lifted, everybody checked in all the shit they had developed in the mean time06:18
bob2levander`: er, you're using breezy?06:19
syndis there any way to run Mac apps on linux?06:19
levander`bob2: no, hoary06:19
kaliasbob2: hmm..I see.  I found something on the wiki but there is nothing entered under isa soundcards.  Do we have a wiz on the irc?06:19
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bob2levander`: since release, hoary has only had security udpates added06:19
levander`bob2: i do real work on my system, don't wanna make a hobby of beta testing06:19
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userx1how to clear the Print Jobs in the command line? Coz If I will cancel it thru Printers window, the Window will just hang-up.06:19
bob2synd: it's called "mol"06:19
filosof bob2  it's give me error "E: Unable to find a source package for php"06:20
syndbob2: mol? google it, i shall?06:20
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levander`bob2: exactly, and I wanna make sure those security updates installed correctly, my system went down becuase of power outage, and I don't remember how long before the power outage I told it to update06:20
bob2synd: apt-cache search mac-on-linux06:20
syndbob2: ah, thx06:20
bob2levander`: I'd think a hard shutdown is way more likely to cause problems than the security updates06:20
thoreauputicbob2: /etc/rc2.d/ appears not to have any evms entries.. have I missed something?06:20
holycowwhy does removing alsa-base remove gdm?06:20
holycowi don't get this06:20
levander`bob2: well, i don't see any problems, have checked syslog, but just want to make sure those security updates went in okay06:21
bob2filosof: sudo apt-get build-dep php406:21
bob2levander`: ok06:21
syndbob2: nothing came up?06:21
levander`does dpkg even have a way to verify package installs? I remember rpm had an option to verify every installed package on the system, even though I never bothered to figure out what the output meant06:21
bob2thoreauputic: hrm, interesting06:21
bob2synd: are you on ppc?06:22
bob2levander`: debsumbs06:22
bob2holycow: maybe because gdm wants to make noises early on06:22
syndbob2: x86. ppc required, eh?06:22
kaliasexit06:22
holycowthats retarded, now you cant remove alsa without removing gdm06:22
holycow*grrr*06:22
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bob2synd: of course, it's like vmware but less hacky06:23
bob2synd: try qemu, but you'll need to go buy a mac os x dvd06:23
doogluslevander`: "debsums"06:23
bob2holycow: why do you want to touch alsa-base, anyway?06:23
userx1how to clear the Print Jobs in the command line? Coz If I will cancel it thru Printers window, the Window will just hang-up and no cancellation happen.06:23
thoreauputicbob2: there's an evms.conf in /etc ...06:23
holycowbob2, it pumps a very very high pitched noise through my speakers, its borked06:23
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levander`anybody know what package debsumbs is in?06:23
holycowwhen i stop alsa it goes away06:23
bob2levander`: debsums06:24
bob2holycow: ouch06:24
levander`bob2: got it, thanks06:24
holycowreinstalling it along with gdm didn't work06:24
holycow*grrr*06:24
GNULinuxerwhat is the alternative for chkconfig [Redhat ]  in Ubuntu? I want some services to run at startup and some not06:24
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jamesmGNULinuxer update-rc.d06:26
userx1:(06:26
GNULinuxerjamesm, what is the syntax ? any man page?06:26
jamesmGNULinuxer, there should be06:27
levander`bob2: thanks, that seems be working, although a *lot* of output that isn't really errors, and a lot of people are apparently making packages with md5sum files...06:27
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jamesmGNULinuxer, i wrote a wiki on linuxquestions.org about this06:27
GNULinuxerjamesm, the link?06:28
johnnybezakbob2: ive got to put an .iso on the usb stick to, do i need to dd that unit as well06:28
syndbob2: say i had ubuntu ppc and had MOL running on top of that. would that enable the airport express card ?06:28
thoreauputicbob2: anything I could grep for in dmesg?  dmesg | grep -i evms or enterprise comes up empty as well.. :/06:28
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bob2levander`: yes, it's a shame06:29
thoreauputicsynd: no, unfortunately06:29
bob2synd: no06:29
synd:/06:29
levander`bob2: oh, meant *without* md5sum files06:30
seth_kwould anyone mind testing a gdesklets backport for hoary before I release it onto the unsuspecting public? I just want to make sure there are no showstopper errors06:30
bob2erk06:30
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xeroi have alwayshad gdesklets problems06:30
syndgkrellm for me06:30
xerohowever trhey have to do with actually loading a gdesklet and not hte program itself i think06:30
JohnnyQuesthow do i open a txt file and edit it in the terminal?06:30
syndxero: ive had the same problems06:31
bob2JohnnyQuest: sudo nano /blah06:31
xeronano filename06:31
JohnnyQuestanything other than nano?06:31
zero-onehi... how can i get permission to modify the etc folder?06:31
thoreauputicOK - I guess I'll see if I can find an older Hoary kernel in the archive.... this one seems not to like me06:31
seth_knooo JohnnyQuest, usue vi! :P06:31
JohnnyQuestbi?06:31
xerovi06:31
JohnnyQuestvi>?06:31
levander`thoreauputic: have you tried booting your system by not having whatever /etc/init.d script run that starts enterprise volume management?  I don't know exactly what that service does.06:31
JohnnyQuestok06:31
bob2JohnnyQuest: use nano06:31
JohnnyQuestsudo vi filename?06:31
JohnnyQuestive had problems with nano...06:31
seth_khehe. you'll want to use nano if you're not used to console editing06:31
xeroyeah but vi can be quite confusing for someone who has never used it before06:31
JohnnyQuesti do not have a gui interphase anymore06:31
bob2thoreauputic: I don't know where it's starting06:31
seth_kvi forever though06:31
xerowhat problems w/ nano?!06:31
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levander`JohnnyQuest: you'll have more problems with vi if couldn't get nano to work06:32
JohnnyQuestok..06:32
seth_ktrue that06:32
bob2xero: it's a terribly spartan editor06:32
JohnnyQuesti edited a file and now i dont have a gui interphase...06:32
thoreauputiclevander`: that was bob2 's suggestion - but it appears not to exist in the /etc/rc2.d dir06:32
levander`thoreauputic: lemme check here06:32
xeronano is all done w/out a gui06:32
JohnnyQuestya i kno06:33
dooglusanyone familiar with 'aptitude', as opposed to 'apt-get'?06:33
JohnnyQuestbut, i used it, rebooted, i idnt have a gui anymore06:33
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cthulfuegodooglus: They work pretty much identically.06:33
madsenJohnnyQuest: I think it's more interesting to know what file you edited.06:33
zero-oneI want to get permission to modify a file at /etc folder... how can i do it?06:33
doogluscthulfuego: that's what I thought.  but:  http://rafb.net/paste/results/Kctn7x61.html06:33
seth_kdooglus: syntax is pretty much identical06:33
xeroJohnnyQuest: you mean u did something to screw up gnome?06:33
madsenzero-one: sudo <command to run>06:33
davidwho here likes windows?06:33
xerojohnnyquest: try restarting gdm?06:33
JohnnyQuestya06:33
xeroscrew m$06:34
doogluscthulfuego: why does aptitude think I should install defendguin?  I've removed it, and don't want it back.06:34
JohnnyQuesti did something to screw up gnome06:34
JohnnyQuestit fails when booting06:34
xerowhat were your editing?06:34
JohnnyQuesti edited ld.so.conf06:34
cthulfuegodooglus: Its depend handling is still a tad buggy afaik.06:34
zero-onemadsen, but how can i do it using gnome, not via a term06:34
levander`thoreauputic: are you sure the message before freezing wasn't: "Setting up LVM Volume Groups..."06:34
xeroi dont know what that is... hmm06:34
madsenzero-one: Oh, hang on a sec.06:34
JohnnyQuestmaybe that wasnt the cause..06:34
zero-onemadsen, ok06:34
xerorestart gdm06:34
thoreauputiclevander`: positive06:34
sproingiehow do i find what .deb package a particular file is in?06:34
xero/etc/init.d/gdm restart06:34
bob2sproingie: http://packages.ubuntu.com/06:34
dooglussproingie: apt-file search06:35
madsenzero-one: Applications -> System Tools -> Run as a different user...06:35
madsenzero-one: Then type e.g. 'gedit' and run it as root.06:35
JohnnyQuesthow do i restart gdm?06:35
thoreauputiclevander`: it times out, then I get a message like "lost interrupt on hdc "06:35
josemi/etc/init.d/gdm restart06:35
dooglusJohnnyQuest: /etc/init.d/gdm restart06:35
madsenJohnnyQuest: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart06:35
josemilol06:35
madsenhehe06:35
josemiso I win06:35
thoreauputicand it freezes (well, it hangs)06:35
josemixD06:35
xeroJohnnyQuest: /etc/init.d/gdm restart06:36
madsenjosemi: Well, if he's not 'root', then you don't.06:36
JohnnyQuesti got a fail06:36
dooglusjosemi: no, madsen wins for getting the 'sudo' in there too06:36
levander`thoreauputic: what is your default run level in /etc/inittab?06:36
JohnnyQueststarting gnome display manager... fail06:36
xerowere you doing anything w/ your xorg.conf file at all?06:36
josemixD ok ok06:36
JohnnyQuestno06:36
JohnnyQuesti only touched that one file...06:36
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madsenJohnnyQuest: What does the logfiles say?06:36
thoreauputiclevander`: 2 - quite normal06:36
xerowhat dir was that in? and what does it do?06:36
JohnnyQuestlogfiles? i donte ven know how to cehck those...06:37
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madsenJohnnyQuest: sudo tail -100 /var/log/Xorg.0.log06:37
JohnnyQuestim just gonna reinstall unbuntu and start from scratch06:37
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madsenJohnnyQuest: Bad idea, just fix the problem.06:37
josemiJohnnyQuest: is highly recommended you try to repair the system by yourself06:37
JohnnyQuestok06:37
josemiand take some practice06:37
JohnnyQuesti installed it 2 days ago..06:37
josemiby understanfing how it works06:37
josemif-d06:38
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zero-onemadsen, the system says the password is wrong (but its right06:38
madsenJohnnyQuest: Try: sudo tail -250 /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE06:38
vinuxWow It was so easy to set up my printer in gnome!06:38
levander`thoreauputic: your hdc is hard drive or cd drive?06:38
Santa|xChatAh..finally it's working. Thanks everyone who helped me earlier. =)06:38
JohnnyQuestthat didnt wrok06:38
JohnnyQuestthat command06:38
thoreauputiclevander`: CD06:38
thoreauputicCD-RW06:38
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JohnnyQuesti got it to wokr now..06:38
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levander`thoreauputic: it may have gone bad, i got similar messages when my cd drive went bad not long ago06:38
levander`thoreauputic: you've ever been inside that computer?06:38
madsenzero-one: Uh, if it contains any special chars (something not a-z 0-9) then gksu (the program asking you to give the password) might not work. :-/06:39
JohnnyQuestwhat am i looking for in these errors?06:39
madsenzero-one: Try opening a terminal and type 'sudo gedit' instead.06:39
thoreauputiclevander`: hmm - well it boots perfectly in warty (/dev/hda5 )06:39
madsenJohnnyQuest: Something that gives you a hint of what's failing.06:39
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Adrian|Hey I heard something about a special version of Starcraft made for Ubuntu, can anybody give me info on that?06:39
thoreauputiclevander`: it's only Hoary that causes problems06:39
thechitowncubshey, how can i install a metacity theme w/out using the theme app? is there a config file somewhere that i can edit06:39
JohnnyQuestfont renderer is all i got...06:40
userx1Starting DHCP server: dhcpd failed to start - check syslog for diagnostics. - <--- which Directory I can find the "syslog" ?06:40
zero-onemadsen, ok! gedit open!06:40
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madsenJohnnyQuest: You can also just 'sudo tail -250 /var/log/Xorg.0.log' and see if there's anything interesting going on.06:40
userx1whats the problem why it failed?06:40
madsenzero-one: :)06:40
thoreauputiclevander`: the only thing I've done in the box is put in an extra stick of ram about 3 weeks ago06:40
levander`thoreauputic: can you check /var/log/syslog on your warty install to see if there are any errors related to hdc in it?06:40
userx1Firestarter is currently running....06:40
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thechitowncubsWhere is the config file for themes?06:40
thoreauputiclevander`: OK - I'll have to reboot - dual boot here06:40
JohnnyQuestscan your fram lavender06:40
JohnnyQuestram*06:40
JohnnyQuestram can go bad06:41
zero-onemadsen,now i create the file and can i save it at /etc folder?06:41
levander`thoreauputic: what OS are you on now?06:41
thoreauputicback soon I guess06:41
JohnnyQuestand it will give you lots of errors06:41
madsenzero-one: What file did you want to edit?06:41
JohnnyQuestlevender: memtest8606:41
thoreauputiclevander`: hoary with a warty kernel that doesn't work very well ;)06:41
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zero-onelilo.conf06:41
levander`thoreauputic: can't you just mount the drive that has the warty /var partition on it?06:41
madsenzero-one: From the gedit with root privileges you can open/save to any file on the system, so be careful what you do.06:42
zero-onemadsen: ok06:42
JohnnyQuesthow do i scroll up in my terminal?06:42
madsenzero-one: Well, if you're done editing the file, then you should just save it. (Have you saved a working backup of lilo.conf?)06:42
thoreauputiclevander`: doh - sorry I'm not thinking very clearly - yes of course thanks06:42
josemiavPag + RePag06:42
levander`thoreauputic: i'm gonna getta smoke, but search for both the terms "atapi" and "hdc"06:42
madsenzero-one: Remember, for the changes to take effect, run 'sudo lilo' after editing lilo.conf.06:43
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thoreauputicOK06:43
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thoreauputicthanks levander`06:43
madsenAw, crap!06:43
thechitowncubsAnyone :/06:43
madsenI left my cola in front of my CPU fan and now it's all warm! :(06:43
thechitowncubsI hate to interrupt :)06:43
seth_knobody adventurous tonight eh.06:43
JohnnyQuestwhat does this mean? could not init fount path element unix/:6100; removing from list!06:43
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JohnnyQuestthere are some typos in there...06:43
seth_kJohnnyQuest: don't worry about it. no local font server running06:44
JohnnyQuestok06:44
madsenJohnnyQuest: It just means that there's no font server running. It's not a problem really.06:44
seth_kJohnnyQuest, but it doesn't hurt anything staying in xorg.conf all nice and happy06:44
madsenOh. Too slow again.06:44
seth_k:D06:44
seth_kcan I have a brownie?06:44
JohnnyQuesthow do i scroll up in my terminal?06:44
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madsenJohnnyQuest: Shift+PageUp06:44
seth_kw00t06:45
zero-onemadsen: ok... im doing what you're saying06:45
JohnnyQuestdrmOpenDevice: Open failed06:45
JohnnyQuestthat anything?06:45
madsenJohnnyQuest: You might want to use 'less' for reading long output in a terminal.   tail -250 /bla/bla/bla | less06:45
levander`thoreauputic: find anything??06:45
madsenzero-one: :) I hope it works out well then. :)06:45
davidwhats the alt-tab equivalant in linux?06:45
seth_kdavid: alt-tab still...06:46
thoreauputiclevander`: several lines for atapi06:46
davidhah ur right thanks06:46
JohnnyQuestim not finding a thing...06:46
thoreauputiclevander`: hang on - grepping for hdc06:46
uburemember that if you use less, you can use the '/' to search...06:46
levander`thoreauputic: are they errors?06:46
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madsenJohnnyQuest: No errors at all? (Marked with "(EE)".)06:46
thoreauputiclevander`: the atapi ones look OK to me...06:47
JohnnyQuestnothing marked with EE06:47
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madsenJohnnyQuest: Hmm... Perhaps Xorg isn't the thing failing then... Perhaps GDM is... (?)06:47
levander`thoreauputic: i'd look at the lines before and after where the term atapi comes up, not just with grep06:47
JohnnyQuestit said gnome was failing while booting...06:47
dennishello06:48
thoreauputiclevander`: right - i'm seeing "lost interrupt quite a bit here06:48
thoreauputicwith "hdc"06:48
dennisANyone know how to handle file names that are longer than 8 characters and or have spaces in them?06:48
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madsenJohnnyQuest: Try checking out the logfile /var/log/gdm/:0.log06:48
seth_kdennis: tab completion is your friend06:48
levander`thoreauputic: could be bad cd drive thoreauputic06:48
dennis?06:48
thoreauputiclevander`: like Jun 13 11:32:00 localhost kernel: hdc: lost interrupt06:48
dennisHuh?06:48
madsenJohnnyQuest: GDM = GNOME Display Manager06:48
thoreauputiclevander`: :(06:48
dennisseth_k, what?06:49
thoreauputicI guess it might be06:49
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dennisLike I'm running cedega....06:49
dennisand it can't find it because Program Files has a space06:49
levander`thoreauputic: that's what started happening to me for a few months before my CD drive just died, i wasted a lot of time trying to fix06:49
zero-onemadsen: iam going test it now... bye06:49
seth_kdennis, type Prog[TAB] 06:49
levander`thoreauputic: brand new DVD R/W drives are only $50 these days06:49
thoreauputiclevander`: but in that case would warty be OK (It is)06:49
seth_kwhere [TAB]  is the tab key, not the letters06:49
seth_kit will auto-complete06:49
madsenWhy the hell does Xorg.0.log tell me that COMPOSITE is loaded, when xcompmgr tells me it's not?!?06:49
levander`thoreauputic: with hardware failures, sometimes at first you get intermittent stuff06:49
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thoreauputicyes, right06:50
seth_kmadsen, maybe it tries to load and fails?06:50
thechitowncubsWhy is ogg playback so slow in Totem-xine?06:50
madsenseth_k: It doesn't show anything about failing in the log.06:50
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thechitowncubsOgg Theora...06:50
levander`thoreauputic: i bet you don't use your CD drive a lot, and just never noticed it flakes out some times, until something in hoary tries to use it on boot06:50
thoreauputiclevander`: well, I'll see what happens - at least I have aworkable system and a laptop here06:50
thoreauputiclevander`: thanks for the help :)06:51
levander`thoreauputic: i'm guessing of course, but just something is using the cd drive more on boot in hoary06:51
thoreauputiclevander`: OK - could be06:51
madsenseth_k: Only error I get is about PreInit failing for "Synaptics Touchpad" which I don't even have...06:51
levander`thoreauputic: try to get other people to check their syslog and see if there are any lost interrupt messages in there06:51
Madpilothi all. how do I get ubuntu to tell me what it's calling my two CD drives?06:51
xerolevander': yeah why does ur cdrom drive fail? ive had a few fail on me when installing ubuntu06:51
madsen(II) Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE06:51
levander`thoreauputic: have you tried mkinitrd to remake an initrd image?  that was one of the things I tried to get my CD back up and working, it seemed to work for awhile.06:52
seth_kMadpilot, look in /media first off06:52
bob2Madpilot: ls /dev/cd*06:52
Matthew_WAnyone know how to get my sound to be reasonably audible?  -- the problem is... it's incoherently quiet, and my comp thinks the sound is coming from the headphones...06:52
seth_kMadpilot, usually /media/cdrom0 and /media/cdrom106:52
thoreauputiclevander`: no, this just happened an hour or two ago06:52
xeromatthew_W: sudo alsamixer06:52
levander`thoreauputic: i'd google "mkinitrd cd" some06:53
thoreauputiclevander`: OK06:53
Matthew_Wxero:  all this does is let me change the volume levels, and again, the only one that changes is headphones.06:53
ubuMatthew_W, paste the output from ,,cat /proc/asound/cards'' and ,,amixer'' onto pastebin06:53
levander`also, there's gotta be a way to figure out what in /etc/rc2.d or elsewhere is starting the /etc/init.d/evms script06:53
Madpilotseth_k, bob2: it seems to list three drives - cdrom, cdrom0, cdrw -- but I only have two? odd06:53
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bob2Madpilot: cdrom will point at one of the others06:54
seth_kMadpilot, my guess is cdrom -> cdrom006:54
seth_koops, beaten06:54
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Matthew_Wubu:  explain pastebin06:54
JohnnyQuesti didnt find aynthign in that log..06:54
ubuMatthew_W, it's just a web site used for diagnostic purposes06:54
seth_kMatthew_W: http://pastebin.ca06:54
madsenJohnnyQuest: Odd...06:54
x_orIs there a sound configuration utility for Hoary?  alsaconf is not installed, and apt-cache search shows nothing.06:54
JohnnyQuestthat log had the same stuff as the other log06:55
ubux_or, alsaconf was removed from Ubuntu's alsa-utils06:55
bob2x_or: what do you need to configure?06:55
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madsenJohnnyQuest: Nothing useful is output when you try: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart ?06:55
Madpilotbob2, seth_k: thnx. still trying to get a grip on how linux deals with drives & stuff...06:55
x_orWell, I have a new sound card, m-audio type, so I figured alsaconf was the easiest way to do this.06:55
Matthew_Wubu:  http://pastebin.ca/1422106:55
JohnnyQuestit just restarts and tells me gnome display manager failed06:55
JohnnyQuesteverything else is ok06:55
seth_kMadpilot, np. Everything's a directory in Linux. Kinda weird, but useful after awhile06:55
bob2x_or: if it replaced the old one, then the correct module will be loaded on boot06:55
seth_kno more c:\06:55
Juhazhoary installer can't resize fat32, right?06:56
madsenJohnnyQuest: Odd.06:56
Matthew_Wubu:  let me know if any of this makes sense :P06:56
x_orNo, there is an on-board chip, and this is a pci card.06:56
JohnnyQuestim going to reinstall because, i have alot of problems iwth that install06:56
Madpilotseth_k: also trying to get used to drives not appearing if there isn't anything in them...06:56
madsenJohnnyQuest: Nothing on Ctrl-Alt-F7?06:56
bob2x_or: cool, then you shouldn't need to do anything at all06:56
JohnnyQuestnothin06:56
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madsenJohnnyQuest: Reinstalls are for windows.06:56
JohnnyQuestya i know06:56
Hhhhhhello06:56
JohnnyQuestbut, when i was installing packages06:56
x_orbob2:  How do I tell if the proper module is loaded, and use the card?06:56
JohnnyQuestthe archive i was using wasnt woirking06:57
madsenJohnnyQuest: Chances are that you'll end up with the same problems if you do the same stuff.06:57
JohnnyQuestso packages got partialy installed06:57
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JohnnyQuestwell im gonna do different stuff06:57
madsenJohnnyQuest: Oh, bugger...06:57
JohnnyQuestya06:57
JohnnyQuestthis time06:57
levander`anybody try mythtv on ubuntu? am wondering how easy to configure06:57
JohnnyQuestill change teh archieve06:57
madsenJohnnyQuest: Well, you could try 'apt-get install -f'06:57
JohnnyQuestthtats wat imd oing levander06:57
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bob2x_or: look at the output of dmesg, I guess06:57
xerolevander': i tried to install it once and got a bunch of errors and never tried it agian06:57
Hhhhhquestions about Ubuntu 5.04: does it ship with KDE? any special strengths and weaknesses of Ubuntu? I'm installing it right now as we talk06:57
JohnnyQuestim installing it levander06:57
JohnnyQuesti got knoppmyth to wokr06:57
levander`JohnnyQuest: it's going okay?06:58
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JohnnyQuestim in here talking about problems06:58
JohnnyQuest(im new to linux)06:58
ubuHhhhh, you can use kubuntu-desktop06:58
madsenJohnnyQuest: Change the archives, run 'sudo apt-get update' and then run 'sudo apt-get install -f' - see if that fixes the partially installed packages and stuff.06:58
levander`JohnnyQuest: so you're not installing via the ubuntu repositories?06:58
Matthew_Wubu:  any ideas...?06:58
ubuHhhhh, see #kubuntu06:58
levander`JohnnyQuest: starting Linux with mythtv is *brave*06:58
ubuMatthew_W, hold06:58
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JohnnyQuestim installing ubuntu via the cd rom...06:58
JohnnyQuest?06:58
Matthew_Wubu:  sure.06:58
Fr0Gshey all i have installed a graphics binary from ATI and its worst how can i remove it06:58
JohnnyQuestok madsen06:59
kvidellJohnnyQuest: Lav means are you installing MythTV from the repos?06:59
JohnnyQuestill try taht and see if that helps06:59
madsenJohnnyQuest: Use the official archives from Ubuntu.06:59
JohnnyQuestim installing mythtv from the cvs..06:59
Fr0Gshey all i have installed a graphics binary from ATI and its worst how can i remove it06:59
liableFr0Gs: a .deb package?06:59
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Fr0Gsits froma  .run script06:59
Fr0Gsfrom ati06:59
madsenOk, now for MY problem... Drop shadows...06:59
xerodamn cable grrr06:59
ubuMatthew_W, please mute IEC958 and Capture06:59
levander`JohnnyQuest: are you sure if you install mythtv via knoppmyth that your supposed to install ubuntu first?06:59
Hhhhhudu: thanks, I'll look into that, I think Gnome is fine for now. Any special strengths and weaknesses of Ubuntu? I come from a Red Hat/Fedora/SuSE perspective, but I decided to try a new distro for a change06:59
Matthew_Wubu:  okay... how do I go about doing that?07:00
JohnnyQuestno07:00
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JohnnyQuesti installed knoppmyth before07:00
JohnnyQuesti didnt like it07:00
JohnnyQuestso now im doing mythtv through ubuntu07:00
kvidellI'd use Gentoo or Slackware for a myth box07:00
kvidellthen again it would be solely a myth box07:00
ubuMatthew_W, amixer sset 'IEC958' off ; amixer sset 'Capture' off07:00
levander`kvidell: why those distros?07:00
kvidelllevander: light weight07:01
kvidellmuch much lighter than ubuntu07:01
kvidellharder to get going sometimes, sure, but they're very lightweight07:01
JohnnyQuestarnt they harder to use?07:01
Fr0Gshey all i have installed a graphics binary from ATI and its worst how can i remove it07:01
xeroi just tried installing mythtv and i had problems installing it07:01
kvidellyes, but I'm not here because ubuntu's easy to use :)07:01
JohnnyQuesti cant barely use ubuntu...07:01
xerosaid it couldnt get files07:01
Matthew_Wbob2:  when I did that it returned   Front Left: Capture 0 [0%]  [on] 07:01
kvidellI don't use ubuntu because it's easy... infact I only use ubuntu for laptops.07:02
JohnnyQuestwell im reinstalling this time, maybe next time ill fix errors07:02
kvidellI use it because it's stable and works well on laptops.07:02
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JohnnyQuestis it stable enough for a myth box?07:02
dukenhi bob07:02
ubuJohnnyQuest, yes.07:02
kvidellJohnnyQuest: Is what stable enough for it? Ubuntu? Yes.07:02
Matthew_Wubu:  when i did that it returned   Front Left: Capture 0 [0%]  [on] 07:02
dukeni was run debmirror07:02
Ben_BabcockI've just installed Ubuntu and it said it had to boot back into Ubuntu to finish the installation.  However, upon rebooting the screen has gone blank.  Should I just wait, or do I need to reboot again?07:02
dukenbut i have trouble07:02
duken[0%]  Getting: dists/hoary/universe/binary-i386/Release   #07:03
dukenFailed to download some Package, Sources, Contents or release files!07:03
dukenreleasing 1 pending lock... at /usr/lib/perl5/LockFile/Simple.pm line 182.07:03
levander`JohnnyQuest: you know i think there's a #myth or #mythtv channel07:03
kvidellAnything is. It's that if I had a Myth box I'd want ONLY myth on it.07:03
dukenwhy ?07:03
ubuMatthew_W, ok, that's fine.07:03
kvidellso I wouldn't need all the other stuff.... just myth.07:03
JohnnyQuestthere is07:03
ubuduken, which mirror are you using? See the topic.07:03
JohnnyQuestim in it07:03
JohnnyQuestits #mythtv-users07:03
Matthew_Wubu:  Now?  (oh, and if I turn capture off.. will my mic still work?  God I'm a nub... lol)07:03
ubuMatthew_W, I presume you muted IEC958 (the spdif output)07:03
JohnnyQuestim just having ubuntu probs07:03
JohnnyQuestnot myth probs07:03
Matthew_Wubu:  I typed into a terminal exactly what you put.  (in 2 lines, with sudo preceding it.)07:04
ubuMatthew_W, you wanted Capture _on_? Why didn't you say so?07:04
Matthew_Wubu:  because I don't know what Capture is  lol07:04
ubuMatthew_W, no need for sudo. Your default $USER has sufficient privileges to access those controls.07:04
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ubuMatthew_W, it's fairly self-explanatory: it's the toggle for recording something. :)07:04
Matthew_Wubu:  I guessed that afterward.  lol07:04
dukenubuntulog, au.archive.ubuntu.com and archive.ubuntu.co,07:04
ubuMatthew_W, of course then you also have to select _what_ you want to record.07:04
dukenubuntulog, au.archive.ubuntu.com and archive.ubuntu.com07:04
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Matthew_Wubu:  Just incase I want to use Skype, or something.07:05
davidwhy dont i have sound when playing games??07:05
dukenubu, ubuntu, au.archive.ubuntu.com and archive.ubuntu.com07:05
dr_willisperhaps you have the volume muted.07:05
davidneg i got volume up07:05
Matthew_Wubu:  So, now that I've done this, the sound is still incoherently quiet, are there any other steps? (it still thinks I'm using headphones)07:05
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Fr0Gshey all i have installed a graphics binary from ATI and its worst how can i remove it07:06
Fr0Gshey all i have installed a graphics binary from ATI and its worst how can i remove it07:06
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Fr0Gsi need help07:06
zero-oneMadsen: yes4!!!! problem fixed!!! everything running ok!07:06
kvidellFr0Gs: We saw it the first time :) If no one answers it's likely no one knows and Professor Google becomes your new best friend.07:06
Fr0Gsdamn it07:07
kvidellHowever, if it's something you installed using apt-get, then try apt-get remove package07:07
Fr0Gsis it possible to remove it07:07
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kvidellI don't know.07:07
ubuMatthew_W, are you using amixer or alsamixer to adjust the volume?07:07
kvidellHow did you install it in the first place?07:07
kvidellreverse engineering DOES work for a lot of things.07:08
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Matthew_Wubu:  alsamixer.  amixer I just used to return all of those things you wanted pasted.  Basically, this program happens on all operating systems I've had on this laptop other than windoze.07:08
Matthew_Wubu:  ... and I've never fixed it.  lol.07:08
ubuMatthew_W, program->problem?07:08
Matthew_Wubu:  problem, yes.07:09
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Matthew_Wubu:  2:30 - no sleep - no caffeine.  lol07:09
zero-oneeverything working07:10
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thoreauputiclevander`: bob2; I might have found an answer - cd-rom would not mount, then i checked /var/log/syslog and saw errors "DMA timeout" so i edited /etc/hdparm.conf and added '  interrupt_unmask = on' and now it's mounting...07:11
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BROKEN_LADDERdoes anyone know what the amber light means on a router, as opposed to green?07:11
zero-oneI would like say THANK YOU to everyone... My windows and my ubuntu are running BETTER THAN EVER! THANKS!!!!07:11
nalioth_wrknBROKEN_LADDER: depends on the model07:12
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madsenzero-one: Great! :)07:12
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BROKEN_LADDERmy sip phone is connected but the router shows it as amber, not green.07:12
Matthew_Wubu:  One of the only 2 problems I have ever had with linux07:12
BROKEN_LADDERi don't know what the sip phone could be doing weird..it's working fine.07:12
ubuntu_phildoes anyone know if prism3 chipset cards will work with packet injection progs like aireplay?07:12
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madsenzero-one: Glad that it worked out well. :)07:12
zero-oneyes...07:12
ubuMatthew_W, what motherboard do you have?07:13
ubuntu_philzero-one, was that "yes" addressed to me?07:13
madsenAnd I found out that the changes for drop-shadows should be applied to xorg.conf and NOT XF86Config-4... DOH!07:13
caonexwhile trying to install a kernel image with apt-get i get an error indicating that my grub does not support initrd, what is suppose to be done here?07:13
madsenubuntu_phil: I think it was for me. :)07:13
zero-onemadsen: yes07:13
zero-oneno phil... yes was for madsen07:14
ubuntu_philok thanks07:14
Matthew_Wubu:  uh... I'm not entirely sure.  It's an ACER aspire 3500... I don't really know laptop hardware well at all.  It's an intel chipset...07:14
zero-oneSo, if there's brazilian user with dual boot problems should see this site07:14
zero-onehttp://www.vivaolinux.com.br/artigos/verArtigo.php?codigo=1271&pagina=507:14
davidmy games are really laggy can someone help me?07:15
caonex/usr/sbin/mkinitrd: Cannot determine root device ??07:15
zero-oneThere, brazilian users - or from other countries with some determination ;-) -  with dual boot problems with lilo or grub can find very good info.07:16
zero-onehttp://www.vivaolinux.com.br/artigos/verArtigo.php?codigo=1271&pagina=507:16
ubuMatthew_W, does adjusting the Master control actually change the Headphones?07:17
xeroi have had major dualbooting problems on my laptop07:17
xerowith ANY linux distro and windows07:17
zero-onethanks every one and good night07:17
ubuMatthew_W, and are you actually using the Headphones jack?07:17
xeroi gave up and just run ubuntu now :-)07:17
Matthew_Wubu:  No, the master does nothing.  I didn't even know I had a headphones jack... so no.  lol.07:17
nomasteryodaxero, good for u07:18
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Matthew_Wubu:  Although when I do use the headphones, they're not deafening, but they're not nearly as quiet.07:19
razTrying to compile the mplayer mozilla plugins. Stuck at this command, help would be appreciated: ./configure --with-gecko-sdk=/home/username/work/gecko-sdk  ... [one of]  the error i get is:  Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.07:20
ubuMatthew_W, so mute the Headphones control (press 'm' in alsamixer) and increase the Master07:20
Matthew_Wubu:  actually, they're still kind of quiet even in the headphones...07:20
Matthew_Wubu: I'll try that.07:20
caonexi have grub configured with the kernel image and initrd.img that are bundled with ubuntu; however, when i try to boot i get an error with initrd. How can i installed or whatever to grub?07:21
Matthew_Wubu:  Now there is -no- sound.07:21
caonexi have the right line as initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.5.10-5-38607:21
Matthew_Wubu: lol07:21
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flodinehow do you free memory on ubuntu07:21
ubuMatthew_W, ok, then you need to just control the Headphones jack07:21
Matthew_Wubu:  explain further?07:22
ubuflodine, you don't do that manually. Linux (the kernel) does that for you.07:22
ubuMatthew_W, just adjust the Headphones (unmute it)07:22
Matthew_Wubu:  but therein lies the problem, even on 100% headphone volume, and 100% beep media player volume, the sound is still incredibly quiet, with 10% the quality it should have, etc.07:23
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ubuMatthew_W, the only way to test a workaround is to upgrade ALSA versions, and I have to go to bed now. If you search the forum, however, you can find my mailing list posts ("crimsun") explaining how to use 'alsa-source' from universe.07:24
visorhi folks :)07:24
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raz any ideas on how to get gtk2-devel throu apt-get/synaptics?07:24
uburaz, install libgtk2.0-dev07:24
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thoreauputic2.6.10-5-68607:25
thoreauputicyes!07:25
thoreauputicback in business07:25
xxenon?07:25
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thoreauputicI got my kernel to boot....07:26
xxenonah ..07:26
thoreauputicwhew07:26
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razubu, ty.07:26
uburaz, np07:26
thoreauputic!seen levander`07:26
ubotulevander` is currently on #ubuntu (1h 19m 14s)07:26
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magoohi all! the topic says 'use archive.ubuntu.com...' but I can't find apps I want to install in that one. Is there some other method or repositories?07:27
thoreauputiclevander`: if you're around - I owe you a beer or three :)07:27
ubumagoo, make sure you update after you change /etc/apt/sources.list07:27
visoranybody has any idea why graphical Java applications do not fit the theme in gnome? Azureus does but debuging information tells me that the current engine isnt supported but its weird cause azureus looks just good but others like LimeWire or the gallery client do not07:27
magooubu: yes07:28
visorand yes, i have jre 1.5 installed, this may be a jre issue but i just want to know if any of you have the same problem07:28
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thoreauputicvisor: maybe they use swing?07:28
ubumagnon, "yes" as in you have?07:28
ubumagnon, sorry07:28
visorthoreauputic: most probably yes07:28
magooubu: yea07:28
ubumagoo, as in you have updated?07:28
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visorthoreauputic: but then the problem is within jre itself and not a ubuntu/gnome issue isnt it?07:29
thoreauputicvisor: I haven't seen swing in action lately, but it used to look horrible07:29
thoreauputicvisor: yeah, widget kit/intrface for java07:29
thoreauputic*interface07:29
visorthoreauputic: i used to use jre 1.5 in other distributiones and it wrapped gtk just well, i only have this problem in ubuntu07:29
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thoreauputicvisor: ah - well then I don't know07:30
ubumagoo, what application are you attempting to install?07:30
thoreauputicvisor: I currently don't use java at all07:30
visorand it is suppossed that jre 1.5 uses the same engine as gtk, in fact i think i used once jre 1.4 and it worked flawlessly and all apps aside those that use native java widgets worked just well07:31
magooubu: well updated the list havnt done any upgrades. just wanted to install mplayer :)07:31
thoreauputichmmm ... :(07:31
visorthoreauputic: me neither but i found this program for uploading photos to a webserver using gallery and i thought it would be useful but it is written in java07:31
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thoreauputici see07:32
ubumagnon, mplayer-586 (et al.) are in multiverse. Did you enable that repo?07:32
thoreauputicfair enough07:32
gamesswhat I cant login at http://localhost:631 using my account07:32
gamessit says their that use Root Account07:32
gamess*Why07:32
visorand i can stand the horrible java look but this really looks bad, its unreadable, the labels couldnt be read, its all whitey07:32
ubugamess, use the System>Administration>Printing tool instead07:32
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gamessubu, I cant delete the existing printer nor to stop the pending jobs of it07:33
visori will try to update jre or downgrade to 1.4.2 maybe that'll fix it07:33
gamessif I click Cancel, the Window will just hangup07:33
ubugamess, did you check the wiki?07:33
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gamesswaht wiki-wiki ?07:33
ubusee the topic.07:34
gamessok07:34
gamessscrolling up.......07:34
gamessif possible, I want to manage the printer using the web-based environment07:35
magooubu: no i gess im too noob for that :) added multiverse to the sections line in synaptic but still cant find the app07:36
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thoreauputiclevander`: ping07:36
ubumagoo, paste your /etc/apt/sources.list onto pastebin.ca07:36
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visorgeez the channel has grown a lot07:37
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gamessubu, i cant find about HP printer in the Wiki......07:37
gamess:)07:37
visorgamess: whats the problem?07:37
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gamessvisor, about removing my printer07:38
gamessor stoping it pending Jobs07:39
gamesscoz I will click cancel on it, it will just hangup07:39
visorgamess: and cant it be done by the gnome printers admin tool?07:39
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gamessyes07:40
visorgamess: and... so?07:40
gamessthe printer window will just hangup if Ill going the cancel its jobs07:40
gamessalso the printer doesnt response anymore07:40
gamessbut yesterday, id succesffuly done a Print Test page07:41
visoris it supported?07:41
gamessnow, It wont print07:41
gamessyes07:41
gamessHP Deskjet 355007:41
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josemigamess: try using cups simply07:41
josemivia http07:41
josemiand selecting your printer if available07:41
gamessjosemi, but it ask for root password07:42
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anacron_supergood morning!07:42
gamessbut they said that Ubuntu doesnt have Root Account07:42
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magooubu: ok here i think http://pastebin.ca/1422407:42
GNULinuxerin which Repo can I find Adobe Acrobat Reader 7.0 ? I have universe enabled, but I still don't find it on synaptic07:42
gamessi cant also used my Sudo account in that http://localhost:63107:42
anacrongamess: you can have one, if you want07:42
rommershould a swap partition be logical or primary?07:42
gamesshow ?07:42
gamess:)07:42
gamessthats interesting07:42
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anacrongamess: just add one,07:43
gamessadd one ?07:43
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gamessaccount ?07:43
anacrongamess: sudo passwd <sumthing>07:43
anacronpasswd root*07:43
Dr_willis_rommer,  it dosent matter07:43
ubumagoo, you typo'd07:43
gamessi have 2 user accounts on this Ubuntu system07:43
rommerdr_willis ok ta07:43
ubumagoo, replace "unstable" with "universe"07:43
magooubu: ok thabks07:44
josemigamess: root passwd ? and what's the problem ??07:44
anacrongamess: there's no need for root account though, you can use sudo for everything07:44
magoo*thanks07:44
josemigamess: sudo passwd root07:44
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doonzhey guys with that url in the topic how do i get the repositories to use it?07:44
josemiand set it.07:44
FR500hello07:44
dukenhi how much space hardisk required for mirroring ubuntu just hoary, arch i386 ?07:44
gamessill try07:44
FR500is any of ou able to use the irc gdesklet without doing a thing07:44
gamesswhat would be a Root's username07:44
gamess?07:44
josemigamess: do this07:45
josemisudo passwd root07:45
josemiand no more07:45
josemithen log int using the root account07:45
josemilogin root passwd: whatever you want07:45
gamesspasswd: password updated successfully07:45
gamesslike that ?07:45
josemithat's ok07:45
josemithen07:45
josemiyou can log in as root07:45
josemisu -07:45
josemiand so on07:46
anacronbut again, there's no need for root account07:46
josemianacron:07:46
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josemimm07:46
anacronsince you can use sudo, and sudo -s07:46
josemiI disagree07:46
NicPwhy on earth would you want to do that07:46
josemiyeap07:46
josemiyour installation-user07:46
josemiis a root-like account07:46
josemiso, it's preffered for me07:46
josemidelete this account07:46
thoreauputicjosemi: sudo -s achieves the same effect as su anyway07:47
josemiand create a new one07:47
NicPone of the benifits of sudo is no root account07:47
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kvidellI agree, I haven't used my root account since I learned about sudo YEARS ago on an old RedHat box07:47
josemiwith NO privileges07:47
anacronjosemi: why would i do that?07:47
josemiwell... I use Gentoo07:47
NicPbut your user has no privledges untill you use sudo07:47
anacronthat's just stupid :D07:47
kvidellyea really.. that's kind of.. well... short-bus07:47
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kvidelland redundant :-P07:47
thoreauputicjosemi: you are a bit confused about sudo, methinks :)07:47
josemiI don't want anybody be able to do sudo or privileged tasks07:48
kvidellthe ndon't let them07:48
doonzcan anyone help me out?07:48
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josemiwithout the ROOT account07:48
NicPlol07:48
josemithat's for security07:48
NicPyeah create another user then07:48
mhzhi you all07:48
dbernar1a user inHoary has to be in the admin group to use sudo07:48
kvidellum07:48
kvidellso is sudo07:48
gamessyou cant understand me guyz, http://localhost:631 has a msgbox-like prompt that requesting for Root's USERNAME and PASSWORD before i can access the service07:48
NicPthat has no privledges07:48
josemiI know07:48
kvidellyou really don't know how to use it then07:48
dbernar1In Warty, you need to add him to the sudoers file.07:48
josemiI know what is sudo for07:48
gamessnot in command line07:48
kvidellno you don't :)07:48
kvidellI find that hard to believe at this point.07:48
josemikvidell: ok then.07:48
NicPso do i07:48
josemiKvidell: i don't want users to be able to use SUDO07:49
kvidellYou can limit WHAT commands people can run even07:49
josemithat's all.07:49
mhzhames, did you adduser cupsys shadow  ?07:49
kvidellthen don't le them07:49
kvidellyou have to add them to an allowed list first07:49
kvidellif you don't add them, they can't use it07:49
mhzgamess, did you adduser cupsys shadow  ?07:49
doonz | Use archive.ubuntu.com if us.archive.ubuntu.com gives md5sum errors   <-- how do i do this?????07:49
NicPso disallw them07:49
NicPyeah07:49
NicPnot all users can use sudo07:49
NicPonly ones that are specified07:49
dbernar1doonz what?07:49
Hhhhhwhat do you use to set up users with sudo, visudo?07:49
anacrondoonz: topic07:49
kvidellyou can also specify which commands people can or cannot use07:49
dbernar1you want to change us. to just without that?07:49
josemikvidell: I know07:50
thoreauputicdoonz: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the "us." on each line07:50
doonzahh ok07:50
josemiand I don't want people to use sudo (in any way)07:50
kvidellThey use SUDO in the cisco datacenters to let the engineers do a few remedial tasks so the sysadmin's aren't being constantly harassed07:50
kvidellwhy?07:50
doonzthanx thoreauputic07:50
kvidellyou'd rather them have FULL access?07:50
thoreauputicdoonz: then do an apt-get update07:50
doonzok07:50
josemikvidell: ubuntu is not for datacenters07:50
thoreauputicdooglus: no worries:)07:50
kvidellno07:50
dbernar1heh07:50
kvidellI said they use SUDO though :)07:50
kvidellso does ubuntu07:50
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mhzHas any one here successfully run NFS server and clinets???07:50
josemiyeap, and NASA uses Zope + Plone so waht ?=07:50
thoreauputicmhz: sure07:51
kvidellI'm staryting to get the inkling you're only here to troll07:51
josemikvidell: me ?07:51
thoreauputicmhz: install openssh-server07:51
josemikvidell: no no07:51
kvidellyes, you :)07:51
josemikvidell: this is not my intention07:51
josemikvidell: so I explain my opinion07:51
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abbot45ive got something in my trash bin that wont delete.  its just a folder that i put in there from a removable usb drive.  it says that its from a read only drive so i cant delete it.07:52
abbot45its really bugging me.  how can i get rid of this thing?07:52
mhzthoreauputic, cool. I've read 3 diff (similar though) HowTos + the one in ubuntu  wiki UNsuccessfully :(  Openssh-server is installed, so is portmap in all clients and server07:52
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dbernar1_if you want to remove it, type in sudo rm -r ~/.Trash/*07:52
thoreauputicmhz: good07:52
NicPjosemi: theres nothing stopping you from setting up your machine with a root account if you feel the need, but there are reasons that the sudo system has been chosen, please dont encourage newbies to setup a root account when they have no idea what they are doing and they can do everything with the current sudo system07:52
mhz:)07:53
NicP:)07:53
thoreauputicmhz: have you read the tldp howto?07:53
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mhzthoreauputic, let me re-check07:53
josemiNicP: I agree but (for mi) it's more easy to have a root account for privileged tasks07:53
josemior... if you want this in other words07:54
thoreauputicmhz: I don't use windows, and I find nfs is much quicker for me than samba07:54
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josemiI't's highly recommended to know your root passwd, in fact.07:54
mhzthoreauputic, BTW, I only will use/need NFS to mount dirs. I wont use NIs07:54
xerowhat is nfs?07:54
joseminetwork filesystem (Surely)07:54
abbot45dbernar1, "rm: cannot remove `/home/adam/.Trash/Themes': No such file or directory"07:54
mhzthoreauputic, I prefer not to use samba07:54
doonzthanx thor it worked07:54
xerois it used in place of samba?07:54
thoreauputicmhz: so do I :)07:54
mhz:)07:55
thoreauputicdoonz: great07:55
NicPjosemi: but if there is no root account and no root password theoretically the system is more secure07:55
thoreauputicdoonz: :)07:55
mhzxero, not "instead" but you could say so07:55
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josemiNicP: so root's account have to exists in any way07:55
josemi-s07:55
dbernar1_abbot45 um do a ls ~/.Trash and tell me the folders there, please do not paste long text.07:55
xero... could you explain?07:55
thoreauputicxero: nfs is the *nix standard, but alot of folks use samba anyway now07:55
josemiyou can call this account root or "default install user" but's a privileged users07:55
josemiuser07:56
NicPwell if that works for you thats fine07:56
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signiusthere seems to be a problem with the source archive gb.archive.ubuntu.com07:56
thoreauputicxero: samba was designed to interact with windows networks from *nix07:56
josemiNicP: of course, so I agree: SUDO is an usefull tool.07:56
thoreauputicxero: nfs is the native system07:56
signiusi just edited my apt source list and removed the gb. and it works perfect now07:56
dbernar1_a useful07:56
josemiok sorry07:56
josemiI'm spanish07:57
dbernar1_sorry, just language geek.07:57
josemimy english is too poor07:57
xerooh ic ok07:57
dbernar1_I thiunk I understood everything so far07:57
thoreauputicxero: but samba is so good that a lot of people use it in *nix networks now as well07:57
xeroso nfs will not work with windows stuff?07:57
xeroyeah i know samba is quite popular07:57
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bob2xero: you can buy NFS clients for windows07:57
abbot45dbernar1, it doesnt show anything when i ls.  when i navigate to ~/.trash it is empty.  but it shows the "stuff is in your trash can" icon and when i click on that it shows that there is that file in there.07:57
xeroi use that if i dont use ftp07:57
xerobuy... ha!07:57
Fr0Gsmy ubuntu keeps crashing since i installed the ati drivers please help07:57
thoreauputicxero: it will, but it isn't worth the hassle - and samba works better for windows07:57
xerokewl07:58
bob2Fr0Gs: define "crashing"07:58
josemilol07:58
josemiXDD07:58
thoreauputicbob2: I solved my kernel problem! :D07:58
mhzthoreauputic, oh, i did read http://nfs.sourceforge.net/  instead the one in TLDP. I am reading tlpd now, just in case. However, i do have to "claim" that  /proc/filesystems has NO 'nfs' line :)07:58
dbernar1_abbot45 then it is gone, not sure how to get the icon fixed, try killall gnome-panel in a terminal07:58
bob2thoreauputic: woo, what was it?07:58
dbernar1_signius /topic, maybe07:58
xerofr0gs: yeah have fun w/ ati drivers... i still cannot get dualmonitors working07:58
Fr0Gswhen i try and move desktop items the whole computer freezes bob2 and after a while of just leaving it sitting there it crashes07:58
Fr0Gsjust jams up07:59
Fr0Gsfreezes07:59
signius????? whats the /topic thing about ?07:59
abbot45dbernar1, its not just the icon though.  when i click on the icon it brings up nautilus with the file in there.07:59
signiusi am new to irc07:59
bob2Fr0Gs: so, remove them07:59
thoreauputicbob2: I found DMA errors - delays , in /var/log/syslog, so I enabled interrupt_unmask in hdparm.conf07:59
bob2signius: type /topic into your irc client07:59
dbernar1_just type it in07:59
bob2thoreauputic: hrm, ok07:59
abbot45when i click on the file it navigates to the trash bin on my mp3 player.  /media/GMINI 400/.Trash-adam07:59
thoreauputicbob2: and now it boots OK to the new kernel07:59
dbernar1_wow07:59
thoreauputicbob2: the errors were related to /dev/hdc08:00
thoreauputicwhich is my CD-Rom08:00
bob2Fr0Gs: no, please don't /msg me08:00
signiusyeah you say that as if my comments were not related to ubuntu ?08:00
Fr0Gsok08:00
bob2Fr0Gs: sorry they're unstable for you, can you file a bug please?08:00
Fr0Gserr ok08:00
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Fr0Gs:)08:00
josemianyone of you knows if a Riva TNT2 *m64* works fine (agp) under Linux, I know this card does not works fine under windows 9x or 2K08:00
josemi?08:00
Fr0Gsshould i get a lower version of ubuntu then try08:00
dbernar1_signius no, there is a portion in the topic about mirrors, somewhat related08:00
gamessssorry got DC, we got brown out due to heavy rains :)08:00
Fr0Gsbrown out lol08:01
Fr0Gsbob2 would a older version of ubuntu help08:01
gamessswho said about, adduser cupsys shadow command ?08:01
signiusAh ok i see it now08:01
gamesssthats the last words I seen on my Xchat08:01
dbernar1_yup2o_O08:01
bob2Fr0Gs: I wouldn't think so08:01
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signiusi did a search on google previously and it didnt come up with anything useful08:02
Fr0Gslol08:02
Fr0Gsthen whats the problem08:02
thoreauputicbob2: can you think of any reason the recent kernel would cause DMA issues on boot? My previous kernel had no problems...08:02
signiusand an obscure line in the heading of an irc chat isnt the most prominant of places to provide that info i dont think08:02
signiusbut its resolved now all the same08:02
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dbernar1_whatg do you turn on in BIOS to make a hard disk bootable? just the boot sequence?08:02
dbernar1_signius excellent08:03
bob2Fr0Gs: it's a binary driver, there's little anything but ATI can do to fix it08:03
bob2signius: where would you prefer it be put?08:03
gamesssi can made a Test print in Printers, but when I print thur OpenOffice, the jobs will just go "Printing 2 Job" but the printer doesnt print....08:03
gamesss*thru08:03
litheuminstalling 5.04 and installer is erroring when selecting kernel "linux-386". error is related to dpkg "Errors were encountered while processing : /cdrom/pool/.../linux-image.2.6.10-5-386_2.6.10-34_i386.deb. \n E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"08:03
signiusyou dont make it bootable in the BIOS you make it bootable in FDISK or CFDISK or whatever other flavour you use08:03
dbernar1_signius hehe, windows wont boot:P08:04
signiusyou can change the boot order in the BIOS08:04
dbernar1_m$ says change your bios...:) for the error...08:04
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signiusare dual booting windows and GNU/Linux ?08:04
dbernar1_not yet..08:04
dbernar1_I am reainstallin the whole comp08:04
litheumhere's more info "dpkg-dev (subprocess): error in buffer_read(stream): failed to write to pipe in copy: Input/output error"08:04
litheumany ideas?08:04
dbernar1_3 OSs, 2 HDs.08:04
signiusIm confused08:04
black13i keep getting this error undefined reference to `__stack_smash_handler'08:05
signiusso if you havnt touched anything why has windows stopped booting08:05
dbernar1_Primary master wont boot windows once it copies the files to the HD, anyhow, OT...08:05
dbernar1_nono, I am installing it now.08:05
dbernar1_anyhow, OT. forget it.08:05
signiusOT ??08:05
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dbernar1_off topic08:05
signiusok i got to get going for work :-(08:05
signiusbye for now chaps08:06
dbernar1_see ya08:06
gamesssanybody help me with my printer ?08:06
mhzthoreauputic, hmm, why is that hoary does not gimme an NFS output for 'insmod nfs'??  insmod: can't read 'nfs': No such file or directory08:06
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dbernar1_checked OOo is using the right printer08:06
rommerhow do i install nvidia drivers?08:06
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Ghetekis it "$mount my iso file please" or "$mount my iso file pretty please"?08:06
mhzthoreauputic, my kernel experience sucks, i know08:06
mhz:)08:07
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litheummhz: you don't have the NFS kernel module built/available?08:07
dbernar1_!binarydriver08:07
ubotudbernar1_: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?08:07
dbernar1_!binary08:07
ubotudbernar1_: I give up, what is it?08:07
thoreauputicmhz: you don't need to do that08:07
dbernar1_rommer www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/binarydriverhowto08:07
MahlQuick : Im using k3b and its burning fine usually at 40 x....(I had to set up the buffer used by k3b manually) But when burning Audio cd's....the Device buffer drops and drops and drops08:08
Mahlany solution08:08
rommerdbernar1_: thanks08:08
mhzlitheum, AFAIK, I chose Ubuntu BECAUSE it had "everything" a regular honorable distro needs :)08:08
dbernar1_Ghetek...?08:08
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NicPmahl: i belive it has something to do with the drivers or something, some talk about if u use the emulated scsi driver it works at full speed08:08
Ghetekim just trying to mount an iso here08:08
NicPi have simmilar problems08:08
thoreauputicmhz: if you set up your /etc/exports right, and start the portmapper before the server, you should be fine08:08
litheummhz: doesn't mean that you installed all the stuff that you are trying to use08:09
doonzhey guys i installed a few apps from that ubuntuguide page but they arent showing up with icons08:09
mhzthoreauputic, so I thought :)08:09
gamesssi guess noone about printers, :) Ok just teach how do I Install my Sony Microvault Flash Disk? Coz when I plugged it, it can be detected/ install....08:09
thoreauputicmhz: what issues are you having?08:09
dbernar1_Ghetek that is shown on ubuntuguide.org or maybe even in ubuntulinux.org/wiki/frontpage/searchwiki08:09
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gamesss*cant08:09
mhzthoreauputic: no mounting anything at all :D08:09
dbernar1_doonz just teh icons missing? killall gnome-panel08:10
thoreauputicmhz: you know about the rpcinfo command?08:10
mhzyep08:10
MahlNicP, its just for Audio CD's08:10
doonzsweeet08:10
doonzthnx08:10
mhzit shows everything running in the server08:10
gamesssno one also :) .....08:10
Ghetekok will look thanks08:10
dbernar1_gamesss um........... did you check that OOo is using the right printer?08:10
dbernar1_welcome both08:10
gamessswhat 00o ?08:11
thoreauputicmhz: you should see a bunch of stuff if you run rpcinfo -p08:11
dbernar1_OpenOffice.org08:11
gamesssyes08:11
gamesssI set it up to the right name printer08:11
thoreauputicmhz: portmapper, nfs, nlockmgr, mountd, status08:11
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gamesssbut the Printer will says Printing 2 Jobs, but it doesnt print08:11
dbernar1_ok, well, then I dont know. it should print. as for the flash disk... a USB key?08:12
gamesssbut when I made the TEst print before that, it successfully print08:12
mhzthoreauputic, can i paste here?08:12
thoreauputicmhz: no :)08:12
gamesss:)08:12
mhzI thought so08:12
dbernar1_http://pastebin.com08:12
thoreauputicmht: maybe /j #flood08:12
dbernar1_I loved 144000 modems...:p08:13
gamesssif this computer wont print, I will reformat it and back to WindowsXP again...08:13
dbernar1_damn error in windows!08:13
gamessscoz we always do here is Office applications :)08:13
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dbernar1_why do I have to have that OS anyhow...08:13
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josemigameness: have you tried to run Cups ?08:13
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gamessshow can I make the cup run ?08:14
=== Ghetek checked the wiki i cant find a thing on mounting iso files...
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josemigamenesss: /etc/init.d/cups start08:14
gamesssill try08:14
mhzgamesss, /etc/init.d/cupsys start08:14
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gamesssroot@pnpaserver:/home/pnpa # /etc/init.d/cupsys start08:15
gamesss * Starting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd08:15
gamesssroot@pnpaserver:/home/pnpa #08:15
josemigamenesss: then you should get access to an interface via http08:15
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gamesssthats right?08:15
josemiyeap08:15
josemithat's right08:15
gamessslol,,,, ill try to print now...08:15
gamesss:)08:15
joseminow go to your browser08:15
gamesssok08:15
josemiand set your printer first08:15
gamesssjosemi, then what ?08:15
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gamesssjosemi, it will ask for a username and password08:16
gamesssand Prompt always frigthened me08:16
dbernar1_Ghetek make sure not to use their advice rashly, there is some bad ideas there, somewhat08:16
gamesssI always did all my user account here in Ubuntu but It cant access08:16
black13does anyone know anything about `__stack_smash_handler'08:16
dbernar1_brb08:16
Ghetekok08:16
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josemigameness: try with a root browser08:17
josemior simply point to 127.0.0.1:8081 ?08:17
gamesssok08:17
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gamesssjosemi, he refused08:18
gamesssconnection refused08:18
dbernar1_no apache installed=no localhost08:18
dbernar1_through browser, anyhow.08:18
josemigameness: netstat -aut|grep -i "*:*"08:18
gamesssi guess apache will run in Port 8008:18
dbernar1_whats that got to do with printing anyhow:)08:18
josemisearch for your cups listen port08:18
gamesssjosemi, do I paste the result here ?08:19
josemias you wish08:19
dbernar1_http://pastebin.com08:19
dr_willishttp://localhost:631/  - is what cups listens to for its web interface08:19
dbernar1_josemi:-/08:19
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mhtgamesss: try system > administration > printing to setup printer...08:19
dr_willishowever admining from that has been disabled in ubuntu for 'security' issues08:19
josemigameness: Dr.Will tells you the port08:19
dbernar1_dr_willis important insight:)08:20
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josemidr_wills: thanks for remember the default port08:20
dr_willisit can be reenabled. if needed however. :)08:20
gamesssmht,  I tried that way Many many many many times, but the Printer window will just hang-up08:20
black13where would i find debian source packages for xorg08:20
dr_willisI got me a little Dlink Print-server the other day for $50 for my old Laserjet. It works like a top. heh heh08:20
mhtgamesss: try it after cups running :)08:20
gamesssyes08:20
gamesssi almost run the cups many times also08:20
dbernar1_black13 apt-source something, I am not in ubuntu now...08:21
josemigameness: then go to: http://127.0.0.1:63108:21
gamesssand it successfull did a Test print with a large Ubuntu Header and colored blocks08:21
dbernar1_I like the test print page, nice colors:)08:21
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dbernar1_especially after trying to set up the printer for days,..08:22
stjepanhi08:22
dbernar1_bok08:22
gamesssbut when I try to print at OpenOffice, The Printer just says Printer 90 jobs, but the printer doesnt print08:22
gamesss:(08:22
gamesss*Printing08:22
dr_willisAhh.. Hmm08:22
gamesss*Printing XX jobs08:22
dr_willisdoes other apps print?08:22
josemigameness: clean your print queue08:22
stjepancan I use with Ubuntu, for example, fluxbox, gnome, kde and xfce?08:22
gamesssI havent try yet...08:22
dbernar1_yes, stjepan08:22
gamesssbut almost has pending...08:22
gamesss*all08:22
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dr_willisgamesss,  i recall some issues in the past with Openoffice at times.08:23
gamesssjosemi, that my problem how do I clean the queque08:23
josemigameness: kill jobs and try again08:23
josemiI  think via http it's possible08:23
josemior use lprint08:23
dr_willischeck 'lpq' command see if oo is even sending any real print jobs.08:23
jamesi keep getting MD5sum mismatches when trying to install ubuntu packages08:23
stjepandbernar1_, how?08:23
dbernar1_stjepan when you boot, you see a login screenm, called gdm in gnome, and kdm in kde...08:23
josemi $ lp08:23
josemilp           lppasswd     lpr          lprsetup.sh08:23
josemilpoptions    lpq          lprm         lpstat08:23
gamessshow do I kill Jobs? coz when I click Cancel jobs on the Printer Window, it will just hangup08:24
dr_willis'lprm'08:24
stjepandbernar1_, How will I choose?08:24
gamesssI cant say my system is low coz its using Pentium 4 3.2 Ghz08:24
dbernar1_there is a sessions button on it, and lets you select the wm, out of the ones installed. To install something, sudo aptitude something another yetAnother ....08:24
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gamesssDeskJet-3550 is ready and printing08:25
gamesssRank    Owner   Job     File(s)                         Total Size08:25
gamesssactive  pnpa    4       Test Page                       153600 bytes08:25
gamesss1st     pnpa    5       Untitled1                       235520 bytes08:25
gamesss2nd     pnpa    6       Untitled                        235520 bytes08:25
gamesss3rd     pnpa    7       Test Page                       153600 bytes08:25
josemilp -u user08:25
dbernar1_james type in /topic as your message to the channel08:25
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mhtgamesss: what type when you click at printer setting?08:25
josemigameness: lp -u pnpa08:25
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Ghetekpastebin pastebin!!!08:25
dbernar1_haha08:25
TritisHas anyone ever seen PCM under alsa mixer be a toggle instead of a slide bar?  I can't lower volume with it, only mute or unmute.  My chipset is an nforce2 with a CMI9739 intel8x0?08:25
thoreauputicgamesss: please, don't do that again08:25
mhzor #flood08:25
josemiTritis: use alsamixer08:25
Tritisjosemi: I'm in alsamixer.08:26
gamessssorry thoreauputic ....08:26
josemior the equivalent under gnome08:26
josemiTrities: and you can't lower ?08:26
josemi... thats rare08:26
gamesssmht, type ?08:26
thoreauputicgamesss: #flood or pastebin.ca :)08:26
mhzgamesss, instead, next time you can do this:  /join #flood08:26
gamesssoh i remember08:26
gamesss:)08:26
gamesssthanks08:26
mhznp08:26
mhzbeen there08:27
Tritisjosemi: screenshot of what alsa mixer looks like to me: http://img217.echo.cx/my.php?image=screenshotmojohomejaknel2ym.png08:27
gamesssit says in my status window, too many channels open....08:27
dbernar1_james got it?08:27
gamesss:D08:27
black13anyone tried to build xorg on ubuntu08:27
mhtgamesss: when you click printer setting at OOo, what type you got?08:27
mhzblack13, AFAIK, hoarty runs XORG08:27
dbernar1_black13 it is built into hoary08:27
thoreauputicblack13: can't imagine why anyone would...08:27
jamesdbernar1_, yah08:27
black13curiosity08:27
thoreauputic:)08:27
mhz"...killed the cat"08:28
mhz:D08:28
black13what version of xorg?08:28
james          packages08:28
litheuminstalling 5.04 fails when selecting the "linux-386" kernel with this error: "dpkg-dev (subprocess): error in buffer_read(stream): failed to write to pipe in copy: Input/output error" any suggestions?08:28
Madpilotmhz: no, just crashed it's computer.. ;)08:28
black136.8.208:28
mhz.oO (there is band with that name)08:28
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bob2litheum: your hard disk is having issues08:28
mhzMadpilot, LOL08:28
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bob2litheum: or the cd is screwed08:28
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josemiTritis: strange08:29
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signiushow can you do a search for a package with apt-get ?08:29
litheumbob2: i'll fsck and burn a new CD if that doesn't shed any light. thanks08:29
signiusif yoru not sure exactly what its called ?08:29
josemiTrits: mine's is normal08:29
dbernar1_aptitude search packagName08:29
josemilike the others08:29
dbernar1_apt-cache search packageName08:29
mhzsignius, apt-cache search the_name08:29
signiusthanks08:29
click_wilsonok I am brand new to ubuntu and was needing to know how to install java on Mozilla08:30
thoreauputicbob2: I had a couple of I/O errors on my CD ROM too - do you think my hdparm.conf hack was just postponing the inevitable?08:30
gamesssmht, TYPE: CUPS:Deskjet-355008:30
bob2litheum: oh, it's not a fsck thing, it'd be a physical problem, if it is the disk08:30
Tritisjosemi: Well that stinks for me.  I think it was normal for me when i first installed hoary.  Guess I installed a package that made my life bad08:30
dbernar1_click_wilson www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/java08:30
bob2thoreauputic: I/O errors on a cdrom can be bad disks, failing cd drive, loose cable...08:30
litheumbob2: wouldn't fsck be able to find that sort of problem?08:30
gamesssthats what i seen08:30
gamesss:)08:30
bob2litheum: sure, but the disk is still going to have physical problems08:30
thoreauputicbob2: OK thanks08:30
bob2litheum: and you'll get the same i/o error next time something writes to that bit of it08:30
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litheumbob2: but then i'd know that was the problem at least :)08:30
black13thoreaputic, what vesian08:30
black13version08:31
josemiTrities: I dunno about your problem so... try gnome-alsamixer08:31
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josemior reinstall alsa08:31
black13i answered my question08:31
bob2litheum: sure :)08:31
josemi(not from kernel)08:31
thoreauputicblack13: sorry? of what?08:31
litheumdoubt it's the hard disk actually, i added a separate boot partition after i first had the error and that didn't solve the problem08:31
black13xorg version08:31
gamesssmht, TYPE: CUPS:Deskjet-355008:31
thoreauputicmine is 6.8.2 I think08:31
litheumthough i also tried the other 2 kernels that were offered and that didn't help either :-/08:31
mhzthoreauputic, so far, http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/NFS-HOWTO/  is = to http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/NFS-HOWTO/  :D08:31
thoreauputicblack13: ^^^08:31
vinuxAnybody use the gui openbox in here?08:32
thoreauputicmht: ah i see :)08:32
gamessswhre mht go ? :(08:32
mhzvinux, not me :)08:32
thoreauputicmhz: I guess it's just a reprint, as it were08:32
josemigamenesss: try sudo lp -u pnpa (or the user u want to clear jobs)08:32
dr_willisvinux,  you mean the "openbox window manager"  :)08:32
vinuxdr_willis, yea08:32
gamesssmht ?08:32
dbernar1_so...?08:32
gamesssu there ?08:32
mhzthoreauputic, hmm, we definately need a bettar NFS ubuntu wiki page08:32
mhz:)08:32
black13watching the second rotation of adult swim ... and getting fried08:33
mhtgamesss: try to close OOo, stop cups: '/etc/init.d/cupsys', empty cups job: 'rm /var/spool/cups/c*', 'rm /var/spool/cups/d*'08:33
vinuxdr_willis, brb going to login to openbox08:33
gamesssok08:33
mhzor maybe it's because i am trying Ubuntu x86 server with ubuntu ppc clients ??????????????????08:33
dbernar1_black13 ? are you being inappropriate??08:33
da_bon_boncan someone suggest some cool kernel patchset ?08:33
mhtgamesss: run again cups: '/etc/init.d/cupsys start' and open OOo.08:33
black13sorry that was off topic08:34
signiusLMAO if you hit f8 in wavemon for help it just says "dont panic"08:34
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mhtgamesss: to stop cups: '/etc/init.d/cupsys stop'08:34
gamesssyeah08:34
dbernar1_black13 and inaproppriate:) for the younger members...08:34
mhzthoreauputic: or maybe it's because i am trying Ubuntu x86 server with ubuntu ppc clients ????08:34
gamesssim doing the instructions 1 by 108:34
thoreauputicmhz: umm - you need the ppc version , yeah :)08:34
gamessswait a sec...08:34
black13i ment cartoon network08:34
thoreauputicmhz: on the mac of course...08:34
black13if that is better08:34
dbernar1_black13 I knew that...08:35
thoreauputicmhz: or whatever your ppc is ;)08:35
josemigameness: I think stopping openoffice and /etc/init.d/cups restart should be enough08:35
mhzthoreauputic, but would it be logical to have issues mounting NFS from x86/PPC ?08:35
signiusok off to work bye for now all08:35
cyberixWhat is the function of the security reporsitory?08:35
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josemiso try lp -u <username> as root08:35
josemior privileged user.08:35
mhzmhz, IMHAINO, nop08:35
cyberixIs it for allowing user to upgrade nothing, but security related upgrades?08:35
thoreauputicmhz: no, my iBook mounts fine from my X86 boxes08:35
cyberixCouldn't this be done with the upgrade priorising?08:36
dbernar1_signius bye08:36
mhzthoreauputic, oh, envy is killing me :D08:36
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thoreauputicmhz: :D08:36
black13seriously i would like to be able to build xorg08:36
black13without getting gett stack errors08:36
mhzblack13, then, build it using standard debian ways08:37
mhzoh, i see08:37
gamesssMHT, you're my hero!!!08:37
black13mhz, seriously why debian but not ubuntu08:37
gamesssIt works now........ and print successfully!08:37
mhz"...believe it or not, I'm walking on air"08:37
thoreauputicblack13: Ubuntu uses the same tools as Debian08:38
gamesssmht, thanks a lot.... it works now... my printer........08:38
mhzblack13, ubuntu IS debian08:38
dbernar1_wow, excellent, gamesss.08:38
gamesssI wont reformat this Ubuntu anymore....08:38
thoreauputicmhz: erm - not exactly08:38
dbernar1_mhz go tell that in 3debian08:38
gamesssyeah dbernar1_08:38
dbernar1_#debian08:38
mhzLOL08:38
mhzhehehehe08:38
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dbernar1_or just come in, and type in !ubuntu08:38
dbernar1_that works too.08:38
jameshaha  ^08:38
mhzLOL08:38
AvvYhow do i take a screen shot in xfce4?08:38
gamesss:)08:38
black13when i try to bulid xorg i get "__stack_smash_handler" errors ... that was a new one on me08:38
click_wilsonThank you for the help with the java it is downloading and installing now08:39
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jameshow do you install xfce?08:39
thoreauputicAvvY: do you have the Gimp?08:39
gamesssthanks thanks a lot!!! :)08:39
glDaherhi ppl08:39
jamesubuntu keeps giving me problems08:39
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dbernar1_james, enable universe, and type in sudo aptitude install xfce408:39
AvvYyes08:39
jamesi know that08:39
thoreauputicAvvY: use the GIMP (acquire I think)08:39
dr_willisHmm.. Ubuntu has been very Rock solid for me.08:39
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jamesand i apt-get install xfce08:39
vinuxdbernar1_, what's aptitude I forgot?08:39
mhzdbernar1_, well, i have spoken to some (just a cuple) of french Debian developers, and after some laughs they accepted I used Ubuntu :)08:39
dr_willisactually theres 2 versions of xfce, 3 and 4..08:39
glDaherI wanna install gcc C++ in specific, the packange man say it is installed and a green icon next to them, but the commands c++ and g++ are not available..08:40
dr_willisapt-cache search xfce (to see them all)08:40
Fr0Gsi downloaded the driver from http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto and im having problems with it when every i drag a file accross the desktop it jams up and i have to reboot manually and it just jams up alot can someone please help08:40
AvvYthanx08:40
vinuxdr_willis, i'm running xfce4 right now08:40
click_wilsonI was introduced to ubuntu at a friends house tonight and switched my laptop over to it while i was there08:40
dbernar1_glDaher sudo aptitude install build-essential08:40
thoreauputicAvvY: file-- acquire -- screenshot ?08:40
jameswhenever i apt-get install xfce, i get md5sum mismatches... does ubuntu not keep it's mirrors up to date?08:40
mhzjames, apt-get install xfce408:40
dbernar1_vinux aptitude is the user interface to apt-get or so...08:40
topyliFr0Gs: which driver?08:40
vinuxdbernar1_, oh ok08:40
jamesmhz, ^08:40
black13anyone anyone ...08:40
dbernar1_james please type in /topic and hit enter08:41
mhtgamesss: glad to see our problem solve :)08:41
Fr0Gsthe 5.04 ubuntu 108:41
Fr0Gsfor ati08:41
click_wilsonis there a graphic editing program out there similar to adobe cs for ubuntu08:41
thoreauputicjames: also, don't apt-get install xfce - get xfce4, it's nicer08:41
Fr0Gssudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx08:41
Fr0Gsthat 108:41
glDaherthx dbernar1_ ... The following packages are not AUTHENTICATED:  g++ gcc build-essential08:41
glDaher:)08:41
Madpilotclick_wilson: the GIMP; it installs w/ Ubuntu08:41
jamesi know, i always have used xfce08:42
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dbernar1_use aptitude:p08:42
mhzin the meantime I try to solve this stupid NFS issue. Has anyone ever installed and run an HP2550 with Cups and printed Color pages???08:42
topyliFr0Gs: ah, i have an ati card at work, gave up on it :(08:42
click_wilsonok thanks08:42
dbernar1_glDaher using marillat in sources.list?08:42
markcwhat is the "proper" way to update the nvidia driver package after a kernel package update to 2.6.12 (breezy) ?08:42
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dr_willisHmm - i got my ati9700 working in about 30 sec...08:42
glDaherI don't know dbernar1_08:42
topyliFr0Gs: i'm sure someone has managed to get it working though08:42
Fr0Gstopyli lol08:42
pinkoso, what does xfce have that's so nice?08:42
dr_williswell night.08:42
dbernar1_click_wilson use aptitude was not for you.08:42
jamespin, it's clean08:42
jamespinko, it's clean, fast, and stable08:43
dbernar1_pinko lower memory usage, good for slower comps..08:43
pinkoanything to put it above other lightweight wms?08:43
jamesit's kinda like gnome junior :)08:43
topylipinko: it's a desktop environment, comes with more goodies08:43
dbernar1_well, a modern interface, and nice looks for me personally...no desktop, tho...08:43
thoreauputicpinko: it's really a lightweight Desktop Environment08:43
pinkoah08:43
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jamesit's not as minimal as other things, but it's not over the top like kde08:43
mhzalso, Has anyone ever set SquirrelMail with NO SQL at all and use an AddressBook with more fields than "default" ???08:44
dbernar1_glDaher cat /etc/apt/sources.list search for marillat tell me if it is there.08:44
vinuxmarkc, not sure but I used the ubuntu guide and it worked me through it with apt-get commands08:44
glDaherI did, but whats the domain name ?08:44
pinkoI have some version of it on this libranet install.  haven't checked it out much.08:44
glDaherdbernar1_:  #flood08:44
dbernar1_glDaher has marillat in the name08:44
co_coolJakarta08:44
thoreauputicglDaher: nerim.net or something08:44
markcvinux> thanks... all I could find is apt-get install nvidia-glx which deosnt work on breezy and I can't see how that has anything to do with the driver itlself, I'll keep googling08:45
glDaherwhat about this server?08:45
dbernar1_ok, glDaher just say you still want the packjages, even if it cant auth.08:46
glDaherah ok08:46
dbernar1_tell me if it works08:46
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dbernar1_whether, rather08:47
topyliahh. accuracy!08:47
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mhzthoreauputic, could you tell me if the dirs you're sharing via NFS have root.root or other owners? also, which rwx have you set??08:47
doonzanyone using an logitech mouse??08:47
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vinuxmarkc, well I don't quite understand how it installs it but I will tell you this. After I installed a new kernel I could use my glx drivers without configuring anythings which blow my mind!!!08:47
doonzmines going freakin insane08:47
glDaherI do08:47
glDahervinux:08:47
mhzthoreauputic, all my questions related to the server side and the clients08:48
vinuxglDaher, you do?08:48
TokenBadhow do you unrar files in ubuntu?08:48
glDahervinux: yes and it works fine08:48
topylidoonz: yes, i always use old mouse man mice until they melt in my hand08:48
dbernar1_he was prolly thinking about doonz, vinux08:48
albackerTokenBad, unrar08:48
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thoreauputicmhz: hang on a sec08:48
markcvinux> wow, indeed.. trust me to mess around with breezy08:48
thoreauputicbusy atm08:48
mhzdoonz, I have a "creative, usb, optical 3 buttons mouse runing okidoki"08:48
doonzthis is wierd it was fine on the other install but now it goes crazy and shit08:48
dbernar1_shit?>08:49
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dbernar1_hehe.08:49
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doonzlike skitzo and then start opening crap08:49
dbernar1_anyhow, TokenBad using a 386 architecture? pentiumm...08:49
pinkoanyone know if xmms skins can change its whole layout?  or is it just literally a skin.08:49
TokenBadamd08:49
thoreauputicmhz: you want my exports? they are only /home08:49
dbernar1_ok, aptitude search rar in a terminal08:50
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TokenBad??08:50
topylipinko: they're just skins08:50
mhzthoreauputic, no proble, I've been hanging for so long now, that one or more hours wont' de a diff. Also, I'll be hung at 08:30 AM if I don have NFS, SquirrelMail (decent addressbook) and CUPS running)08:50
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zerokillswooo, i got DOD workin08:50
dbernar1_TokenBad well, type in aptitude search rar in a terminal, tell me what you get, but dont paste more than 3 lines08:51
mhzthoreauputic, my server exports are home, too. but are they set to root.root or the same user.user in the client ?08:51
thoreauputicmhz: all my exports look like this dir /home  drwxr-xr-x  4 root root 4096 2005-05-03 20:37 /home08:51
pinkoI don't like it's shape and size one bit, but oh well.08:51
dbernar1_Department of Defense?08:51
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TokenBadp   partlibrary                     - Electrical and processing parts and symbo08:51
TokenBadp   rar                             - Archiver for .rar files08:51
TokenBadv   rar-2.80                        -08:51
wulfepupok .. so on advice of other owners of the same laptop base I have.. I need to add "setpci -s 0:a.0 SUBORDINATE_BUS=0x0A" to my "/etc/init.d/pcmcia" file ....08:51
zerokillsDay of Defeat, a game like Counter Strike but based on WWII08:51
dbernar1_ok, sudo aptitude install rar then08:52
EuanI got a new keyboard, I've managed to change the keymap using the gnome utility but it's not carried over to XFCE4.  Anyone know where XFCE4 gets its keymap from?08:52
wulfepupAfter looking at it .. I hae no idea WHERE to add it... any help?08:52
maruko`if i have a file which contains a list of badblocks made by `badblocks -b 1024 /dev/hda`. how do i convert that file so that it will work for a ext3 fs with a blocksize of 4096 ?08:52
black13tastycakes08:52
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mhzthoreauputic, oh, so 1 line of paste is accepted? :D08:52
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thoreauputicmhz: my mount points look like: drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 2005-05-18 12:02 /alterego08:53
TokenBadafter it installs08:53
TokenBadjust do unrar?08:53
click_wilsonok here is my last newbie question or so I think for the time being if I wanted to install new fonts would .ttf work and if so how would I install them from cd08:53
thoreauputicmhz: sure :D08:53
josehelo08:53
dbernar1_no, man rar, or trial and error rar is the command08:53
dbernar1_Hola08:53
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mhzjose, que tal?08:53
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josebien gracias08:53
mhzhehe08:53
TokenBadhmm08:54
TokenBadit work with thosr r00 to rwhatever files08:54
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dbernar1_man rar being a command you type  into a terminal08:54
stjepanI can not install xfce408:54
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da_bon_bonwhich patches does ubuntu use ?08:54
josehoo sabes ace poco que me lanse con linux y estoy facinado y quiero puro aprender08:54
stjepansudo apt-get install xfce408:54
dbernar1_stjepan, sudo aptitude install xfce4 does what?08:55
mhzjose, bienvenido al club08:55
thoreauputicstjepan: it's in universe i think08:55
jose gracias08:55
mhz"quiero puro aprender" sounded very Chilean like :D08:55
topylida_bon_bon: patches?08:55
thoreauputicstjepan: you arent using the us. server, are you?08:55
jose:D jajaaa08:55
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da_bon_bontopyli: yes. i dont think it uses plain vanilla ?08:56
stjepanthoreauputic, yes I use08:56
topylida_bon_bon: ah, kernel?08:56
da_bon_bontopyli: oh! ya :)08:56
stjepanErrors were encountered while processing: emacs21, cedet-common, speedbar, eieio08:56
thoreauputicstjepan: well, if you are using the us mirrors, read the /topic08:56
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topylida_bon_bon: i guess it has all the debian patches, plus some08:57
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TokenBadthanks dbernar1_, the info helped..and I figured it out08:57
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joseaqui parese que hay gente de todos lados08:57
dbernar1_TokenBad good stuff, then I did my good deed for the night, night guys;)08:57
da_bon_bontopyli: oh..08:57
mhzsi pues.08:57
da_bon_bonok08:57
TokenBadtake care dbernar1_08:57
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wulfepupdoes anyone know their way around the /etc/init.d/pcmcia file? I need to add a command but can't figure out where to put it...08:57
josey tu mhz de donde heres  ?08:57
mhzjose, but mostly english speaking, I do not know if they get pissed if we speak spanish in here08:58
mhzjose, I'm from CHILE!08:58
thoreauputicmhz: it's not encouraged ;)08:58
mhzthoreauputic, LOL08:58
mhzthoreauputic, "english, please... and do not paste more than 1 line" :D08:59
thoreauputicright :)08:59
topylida_bon_bon: look at /usr/share/doc/linux-image-2.6.XXX08:59
albackerguys i installed firefox with apt-get [the new firefox version]  and i was root. now when i open firefox from a root terminal with `firefox` command it opens the new one. when i open that from the user terminal i see the old one. . . can anyone help me ??08:59
thoreauputicmais pour moi, c'est different ;-)08:59
da_bon_bontopyli: cant ** dont have ubuntu08:59
da_bon_bon:)08:59
topylida_bon_bon: oh :)09:00
TokenBaddamn..tried to play a movie and it says that oss device /dev/dsp is in use by another program09:00
mhzjose, and you?09:00
topylida_bon_bon: download the ubuntu linux-source package and peek inside :)09:00
josequiero aprender a programar en linux esque yo estudio computacion pero estoy recien empezando y me gustaria aprender a programar en linux09:00
TokenBadanyone know how to fix it?09:00
albackercan someone help me please with the firefox problem i posted before09:00
da_bon_bontopyli: oh.. didnt realize that :)09:01
joseme podrian ayudar por favor09:01
mhzalbacker, very wired problem09:01
wulfepupalbacker, try upgrading using synaptic09:01
albackermhz, maybe i need a reboot ?09:01
mhzalbacker, what if you copy the original .mozilla in the user dir. Then, launch firefox and see what happnes09:02
thoreauputicalbacker: you got it from backports, didn't you ?09:02
mhzalbacker, NOP!09:02
albackerthoreauputic, ??09:02
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mhz albacker I meant, no, don't need to09:02
thoreauputicalbacker: where did you get the other one? apt or elsewhere?09:02
mhzapt09:02
albackerthoreauputic, one of the files :: Get:1 ftp://sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch unstable/main libgcc1 1:4.0.0-9 [84.1kB] 09:03
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thoreauputicalbacker: ?? what does that have to do with firefox?09:03
mhzalbacker, whwn you apt-get packages, they get updated automagically09:03
mhzAFAIK09:03
TokenBadwhat was the one command for killing eds or whatever09:03
TokenBadkillall eds09:03
TokenBador something09:03
thoreauputicthoreauputic: was that a debian repo?09:04
thoreauputicoops09:04
mhzjose, you can start learning python09:04
thoreauputicalbacker: ^^^09:04
albackerthoreauputic, i did apt-get install mozilla-firefox and that is one of the files which i got :S09:04
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thoreauputicTokenBad: esd09:04
thoreauputicTokenBad: killall esd09:04
TokenBadahh09:04
TokenBadthat was why it wasn't working09:04
TokenBadhad it backwards09:04
albackerso i should apt-get uninstall firefox . . . and than get it from another repo ?09:04
thoreauputic:)09:04
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thoreauputicgotta go, people - good luck mhz09:05
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TokenBadtake care thoreauputic09:06
TokenBadand thanks09:06
mhzthoreauputic, thanks, good luck to ya too09:06
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wulfepupI need to edit my /etc/init.d/pcmcia file ... I need to add a command (setpci  -s 0:a.0 SUBORDINATE_BUS=0x0A) but can't figure out where to put it...09:07
albackerwhere is the repos list stored ??09:08
albacker/etc/apt/sources.list09:08
albackerthis one ?09:08
Kamping_Kaiseryes09:08
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Madpilotshort of actually sticking it into a computer, how can I test a Ubuntu Live CD I just burned?09:09
albackerand can someone help me with a repo list ?09:09
albackerdeb http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu warty main multiverse universe09:09
albackerdeb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main09:09
albackerdeb ftp://sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch/mirror/debian/ unstable main contrib non-freee09:09
Kamping_Kaiserno!09:09
Kamping_Kaiserdon't past here  :S09:09
Kamping_Kaiserbut yes i can help you09:09
albackeri have these 3 but one of them seems to be debian one09:09
albackersorry Kaloz09:10
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albackerKamping_Kaiser, **09:10
Kamping_Kaiser;)09:10
dukenhi09:10
Kamping_Kaiserthe bottom 2 are Debian09:10
Kamping_Kaiserhi duken09:10
albackerKamping_Kaiser, where can i find some others for ubuntu ?09:10
sas-couchrecently ive noticed when i do an apt-get upgrade, its been trying to download a kernel that i already had installed, and then removed using apt, but it tries to install it and then gives me an error saying dpkg returned error code 1109:10
dukenwhere i get bootslash ? what repositoy mys be add ?09:10
sas-couchanyone know how to fix this?09:10
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Kamping_Kaiseralbacker, which do you want?09:11
dukenKamping_Kaiser, hi09:11
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albackerKamping_Kaiser, i want some other ubuntu repos. because the debian one gave me some problems . . . like the firefox one i pasted before.09:11
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Kamping_Kaiseralbacker, head over to #flood09:12
click_wilsonok the java still did not install correctly and i am sitting here scratching my head because I followed everything it said to do09:12
mic__#flood09:12
mic__/join #flood09:13
albackeryeah im in flood09:13
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Kamping_Kaiserpasted09:14
albackerthanks09:14
albackerthe source one09:14
albackerget tar.gz ?? right ?09:14
Kamping_Kaiserhm.?09:14
litheumbob2: looks like the problem was my CD. thanks for the help09:15
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Kamping_Kaiseralbacker, eveything in this file is ok, execpt the backports section, i havent updated it for a while - http://users.on.net/~goetz/itshare/usl/UbuntuSourcesListPointingAtUbuntu09:15
madsenHey, what's the name of the current unstable Ubuntu?09:15
madsenAnd just _how_ unstable is it?09:15
Kamping_Kaiserbreezy09:15
Kamping_Kaiservery09:15
madsenOh09:15
madsenKamping_Kaiser: Thanks.09:15
Kamping_Kaisertake my word for it ;)09:15
madsenKamping_Kaiser: So it's not like Debian sid, where it's not really that unstable...09:15
bob2litheum: ah, np09:16
albackerKamping_Kaiser, thanks ;)09:16
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Kamping_Kaisermadsen,09:16
Kamping_Kaiserthe breezy release is just becoming sid stable09:16
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litheumbob2: probably wouldn't have thought to do that myself since i tried a few different kernels on the CD and they all gave the same error... and i've used this CD successfully before as well. who knows.09:16
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Kamping_Kaiseruntill a few weeks ago it was *beond un stable*09:16
jblackFailed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/i/imlib+png2/gdk-imlib1_1.9.14-16.2ubuntu2_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch09:16
madsenKamping_Kaiser: Hehe, ok.09:16
hiTherehey on my old distro i did $ service network restart09:17
Kamping_Kaiserjblack, US repos are bad09:17
hiTherewhat do i do in ubuntu?09:17
wulfepupjblack, check /topic09:17
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Kamping_Kaiser /etc/init.d/network restart09:17
madsenhiThere: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart09:17
albackerKamping_Kaiser, Ign http://archive.Ubuntu.com warty/restricted Release09:17
albackerErr http://archive.Ubuntu.com warty/universe Sources09:17
albacker  404 Not Found [IP: 82.211.81.138 80] 09:17
jblackOk. THanks09:18
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Kamping_Kaiserjust a tic09:18
Kamping_Kaiseralbacker, should probably #flood those or PM me09:18
hiThere:D09:18
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Kamping_Kaiserwas that from my list?09:18
wulfepupI could use a hand with my /etc/init.d/pcmcia  (based on http://wiki.cynapses.org/index.php/TIP_HP_Pavilion_zv5000_Notebook#PCMCIA.2FCardBus_support )09:18
hiTheremadsen, thanks :D09:19
madsenhiThere: np :)09:19
madsenWtf does mplayer depend on xmms?09:19
lennartis it possible to add more sources for apt-get?09:19
sas-couchso anyone have a solution to my dpkg error?09:19
hiTherepain the don't apend it to #path#09:19
sas-couchyea, edit /etc/apt/sources.list09:19
albackerKamping_Kaiser, i pasted it in Flo0d09:19
shanonDoes anyone know how to get firefox working with macromedia director files ?09:19
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Kamping_Kaisergtg albacker - bb in 5 minutes.09:20
lennartsas-couch, and where can I find more sources?09:20
mhzshanon, I don't think that is possible09:20
shanonmhz: 8(09:20
albackerKamping_Kaiser, ok09:20
Kamping_Kaiseralbacker09:20
shanondamn I have to boot windows then09:20
mhzshanon, did you google09:20
Kamping_Kaisertry taking off the capital U in Ubuntu09:20
Kamping_Kaisermy chat client corrects it to a cap, it shouldent be :S09:20
shanonmhz: Yes. Cna't find anything useful09:20
mhzshanon, unless you run WINe09:21
mhzor something like that09:21
sas-couchwww.ubuntuguide.org09:21
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sas-couchthat site has plenty of solutions for everything09:21
wulfepupshanon, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats has details for flash and shockwave plugins09:21
shanonmhz: Yeah I haven't gotten around to setting up wine yet. I don't need it for anything else09:21
ivoksms word is frustrating...09:21
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shanonwulfepup: I have installed the mozillia-flash doesn't do shockwave director though.09:22
mhzshanon, not even games??09:22
shanonmhz: Don't really play games09:22
wulfepupivoks, so use OpenOffice.org09:22
wulfepupshanon, ahhh  ok09:22
ivokswulfepup you don't know how much i would love to do that09:23
ivokswulfepup but i have .doc with autocad OLE objects in it09:23
cletusmy eyes are bleeding....refresh rate hurtz...09:23
wulfepupivoks, sorry :(09:23
mhzshanon, me neither. And never get back to MS even if I miss Macromedia badly :D09:23
josemicletus: lol09:24
cletushow do i "sudo" to root?09:24
josemisudo passwd root09:24
shanonmhz: I need it to use a Uni tutorial site09:24
josemisu root09:24
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shanonmhz: So no choice09:24
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wulfepupI could use a hand with my /etc/init.d/pcmcia  (based on http://wiki.cynapses.org/index.php/TIP_HP_Pavilion_zv5000_Notebook#PCMCIA.2FCardBus_support )09:24
cletusi never setup  a root password...09:24
josemicletus: do it, sudo passwd root09:25
zyiro_mhz  install crossover and you wont be needing to miss macromedia anymore ...09:25
mhzshanon, may the force be with ya then09:25
mhzzyiro_, ??09:25
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wulfepupcletus, do you really need a permanent root account? just use the root terminal or sudo on a case by case basis....09:25
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lennart Couldn't stat source package list http://se.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe  Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/se.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_universe_ binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)09:25
lennart I get this error after uncomment two lines in /etc/apt/sources.list09:25
shanonlennart: do a reload09:26
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zyiro_you said you missed macromedia,  i run all the new mcromedia MX studio on ubuntu as wellas photoshop and all... theres just some app's that i have to use for work purposes09:26
shanonzyiro_: Just the plugin09:26
josemiwewulfepup: ...the roout account *exists* by default so you don't know wich passwd is set.09:26
lennartshanon, I have never used apt-get before. How do I do that?09:27
josemiso you can set it by doing sudo passwd root. simple.09:27
cletuserrr...sudo passwd root asks for a password09:27
josemiof course09:27
shanonlennart: sudo apt-get update09:27
josemithe passwd TO SET09:27
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shanonlennart: or do a reload in synaptic09:27
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lennartthanks09:27
shanonnp09:27
demantikany idea why this is happening..compling one of the modules for luminocity... Makefile:531: Extraneous text after `endif' directive09:28
demantikMakefile:531: *** extraneous `endif'.  Stop.09:28
zyiro_oh lol i suppose i shouldnt jump in the middle of another convo   .....09:28
zyiro_ph well im slow these days09:28
cletushow can I make a root password09:28
demantik*compiling09:28
thesametI have an ubuntu hoary system at work with no internet connection. I want to install lyx there. How can I know which deb files I'm missing assuming it is a base ubuntu system09:28
thesamet?09:28
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josemicletus: sudo passwd root and enter 2 times your passwd09:28
josemithe passwd you want to set09:28
cletusit keeps saying sorry, try again09:28
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mhzzyiro_, is crossover apt-getable?09:28
josemienter the SAME passwd09:28
josemi2 times09:28
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josemi:P09:28
zyiro_no its not... unfortunatly its one of those coughnon-free cough linux applications09:29
cletusi did09:29
josemicletus09:29
cletussudo: 3 incorrect password attempts09:29
josemiok then you should be able to do "su root"09:29
topylithesamet: join #flood and i'll paste the dependencies for lyx-qt there09:29
josemior login as root using this passwd09:29
josemiyou can continue using sudo anyway.09:30
cletussu: Authentication failure09:30
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sas-couchjust type 'su'09:30
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sas-couchdont need root09:30
demantikannnyybooddy..09:30
sas-couchand put in your passwd09:30
josemiwell... su - != su root09:30
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josemiso..09:30
BurgerMannHi, does KDE have anything similar to MS Macros?09:30
transgresshey i know you can rip a cd with rhythmbox but what format does it rip to?09:30
cletusit is screwed09:30
transgressBurgerMann: try #kubuntu09:30
mhzdemantik, I can't  sorry09:31
transgressBurgerMann: or #kde09:31
demantikok09:31
josemicletus: try to login in as root in a tty09:31
wulfepuptransgress, on a default install.. the default is ogg  but you can change that to FLAC09:31
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josemiusing the passwd you give to "sudo passwd root"09:31
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josemigave09:31
cletusit would never let me enter a password09:32
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transgresswulfepup: heh yeah thanks.  i just decided i'd check the prefs _after_ i asked... yay for ogg09:32
josemipasswd09:32
josemiNew UNIX password:09:32
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josemi...09:32
topylithesamet: you'll want a reasonable tetex installation as well of course09:32
wulfepupcletus .. the sudo password is your own log in password .. then you can enter the new root password09:32
litheumsweet jesus how much stuff is ubuntu installing on my computer. "gstreamer"? what is that! "libshout"??09:33
viorkhttp://viork2.blogspot.com/09:33
viorkhttp://viork2.blogspot.com/09:33
Kamping_Kaiserback09:33
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cletusthere is no root password09:34
viorknoticias en espaol09:34
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thesamettopyli: if it's not too much to ask, can you make it do it again for latex?09:34
thesamettopyli: or just teach me how to do this09:34
wulfepupBroken Record, re-request: I could use a hand with my /etc/init.d/pcmcia  (based on http://wiki.cynapses.org/index.php/TIP_HP_Pavilion_zv5000_Notebook#PCMCIA.2FCardBus_support )09:34
cletusok it works now,  I just closed the terminal and started another one.  For some reason, it let me do it now.  :)09:35
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stephhey guys, im installing the new ati driver... how do i run a .run file?09:36
josemicletus: do this step by step 1) sudo passwd root [set a passwd now]  2) su - [enter the pass you gave]  3) try login using a tty: login root passwd: the same09:36
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Tomcat_steph: Usually chmod +x <file> then ./<file>09:36
stephok, thank you09:36
josemicletus: it HAS TO work.09:36
cletusi did it works now thanks :)09:36
josemiok09:37
josemigood :)09:37
cletusi musta had a bad terminal or somehing09:37
josemisurely09:37
deFrysksh <file> might do the trick too09:37
cletuscan i Xorg -configure now and fix my refresh rate?09:37
topylithesamet: since you have no network on the ubuntu machine, it's best to search the packages on http://packages.ubuntu.com/ and find the dependencies there09:37
stephdeFrysk, sh did it =)09:37
josemidon't use special chars on your passwd, to fix possible problems.09:37
deFryskdpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:37
josemiwith encoding,etc.09:37
zerokills"Ready to play in approximately: 379 minutes 12 seconds"09:38
zerokillsthats a long wait09:38
josemiyeap09:38
josemitake a coffee09:38
josemior play something09:38
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zerokillsi just finished my coffee09:38
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cletusdeFrysk thanks09:39
josemitake another one... slowly09:39
josemixD09:39
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zerokills:)09:39
topylithesamet: you'll learn there that tetex-base and tetex-bin with their dependencies are needed, and they both have other dependencies and so on and so on :)09:39
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josemi9:37 am here in spain (good time for a coffee)09:39
icemanAny one know mac's well, I want to get a mac to run Ubuntu on, but need a cheap mac to put it on ...09:39
josemihe he09:40
zerokills2:39 am here, i live in the night, sleep during the day hehe09:40
madsenzerokills: With BfW you can easilly spend 379 minutes in 5-10 minutes. :-p09:40
josemiiceman: install Gentoo :P09:40
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wulfepupahhh crap .. time for bed ...  nighters all09:40
josemisee ya wulfepup09:40
zerokillsmadsen: BfW?09:40
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syndiceman: how cheap?09:40
zerokillsnight wulfepup09:40
madsenzerokills: Battle for Wesnoth.09:40
wulfepupmaybe next t ime I'll get the /etc/init.d/pcmcia help09:40
icemanjosemi na .. want to learn linux, feel i will get a mac to put in on ...09:40
syndiceman: just make sure its a NewWorld mac09:40
madsenzerokills: Open Source game: http://wesnoth.org09:41
zerokillsmadsen: sweet, ill check it out right now, thanks09:41
josemiiceman: :)09:41
icemansynd g3 292 mhz ... work ok ?09:41
holy_cownifty09:41
madsenzerokills: np. :)09:41
josemiiceman: of course09:41
icemanProduct Family:  PowerBook G3    Operating System:  Mac OS 909:41
iceman Processor Speed:  292 MHz    Screen Size:  --09:41
iceman Hard Drive Capacity:  8 GB    Condition:  --09:41
iceman Memory (RAM):  64 MB09:41
syndiceman: for sure09:41
icemanthat09:41
holy_cowif you right click on the the volume control and do properties, you can select which device it controls volume for09:41
holy_cowv v cool09:41
syndiceman: try to up the ram..09:41
syndimo09:41
josemiyeap, so it will work09:42
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zerokillsmadsen: btw, do you use cedega?09:42
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icemansynd whats a good amount of ram .. 128 ..09:42
josemi19209:42
josemior 16409:42
syndiceman: id max it out09:42
madsenzerokills: No, I don't think so... What is it?09:42
josemimay help09:42
syndif possible09:42
syndcant ever have too much RAM :)09:42
topylimadsen: latest wesnoth always: deb http://debian.wesnoth.org/sid/ ./09:42
icemani will... would 64 work ... then up in a short time09:42
zerokillsmadsen: its a windows emulator, so you can install Windows games09:42
syndit would work.. with fluxbox or xfce09:42
madsentopyli: Nice! I was wondering how to get that. :)09:42
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topylimadsen: it's a tweaked wine, non-free09:43
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madsenzerokills: Oh! Well, I don't really do games. Only Heroes of Might and Magic III (for Linux) and Wesnoth.09:43
icemansynd ... less than 200 for the systems as is right now ... but don't mind adding to it in stages09:43
zerokillsmadsen: they all free?09:43
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madsenAnd then of course my SNES emulator and a shitload of roms and two USB-joypads.09:43
hatredevening all09:43
click_wilsonok I am having some major issues with trying to get java installed still09:43
madsenzerokills: Well, HoMM3 isn't of course.09:43
madsenzerokills: But wesnoth is. :)09:44
syndiceman: i see09:44
hatredhey, i've run out of space in my ' / ' dir09:44
zerokillsmadsen: what type of game is wesnoth?09:44
hatredi've got another 6 gig i could add to that, though i'm not sure about how to do that09:44
hatred:s09:44
madsenzerokills: Uhm, kinda hard to explain... Adventure/strategy-ish... Take a look at the screenshots at wesnoth.org09:45
topylihatred: logs could fill /, or apt cache, or a runaway /tmp. find and fix the problem :)09:45
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zerokillsmadsen: yea im checkin it out right now09:45
stephi cant get the new ati drivers working09:45
stephati's new install program apparently excludes Xorg all together09:46
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madsentopyli: Hmm, the version on the repo you just gave me is old...09:46
zerokillsmadsen: do i extract from .tar.gz the same way as .deb with sudo dpkg -i?09:46
madsenzerokills: Uhm, no... The tar.gz is most likely the source... Wesnoth?09:46
topylimadsen: it is? they must be maintaining it badly these days :(09:47
hatredtopyli heh, yea i've taken a look around and delete all that i know is uneccesary however that hasn't heped to much09:47
hatredi think i got rid of like 26 mb :09:47
hatred:\09:47
zerokillsmadsen: yea, im new to linux so i might need a little help installing09:47
cletusyay I am making baby steps...i can get my refresh to 85 hz now, but why not 100hz?09:47
click_wilsonok can someone please help java not likeing me at all tonight09:47
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madsentopyli: It's 0.8.9 as far as I can see, but latest version is 0.9.2. :-/09:47
lennartwhere can I find my X server configuration file?09:47
madsenzerokills: Just: sudo apt-get install wesnoth  should do it.09:48
josemi/etc/X11/xorg.conf09:48
zerokillsmadsen: sweet, thanks09:48
topylihatred: try du /var/cache/apt/archives/09:48
madsenzerokills: Then it'll download and setup everything you need for it to run. :)09:48
topylidu -h rathere09:48
josemilennart: /etc/X11/xorg.conf or find / -name <this>09:48
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hatredtopyli: yea?09:48
hatredah ok09:48
hatreddu -h09:48
madsenzerokills: So just delete the tar.gz again. :)09:49
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hatredaah i see09:49
hatredso how do i clear apt's cache topyli ?09:49
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hatredsorry if that's a stupid question, i'd google it myself only i'm not too confident with links and currently have no gui :|09:49
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eyequeuehatred:  sudo apt-get clean09:49
topylihatred: i don't really know how to do it cleanly.09:49
topyliah09:49
hatredah cool ty eyequeue :)09:49
eyequeuenp09:50
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hatredhey it looks like that's worked,09:50
hatredcool, for now i've got a gui,  from here i should be able to work out giving my / dir another 6 gig to play with09:51
protocolXHi, I downloaded the latest version of ubuntu iso image and tried to install it from CD. The CD boots ok then it ask me to choose language, keyboard, locatin etc. After that It tried to get read package from CD and it fails. It gives me error that it can not read the CD device. Anybody knows what's wrong in here.09:51
madsenHmm, how do I make cp NOT overwrite existing files? (Without -i, because then I'll have to hit 'No' for every file.)09:51
hatredthankyou topyli and eyequeue you've been most helpful :D09:51
topylimadsen: looks like the backports repo has wesnoth 0.9.109:51
madsentopyli: Nice! :)09:51
hatredbrb, swapping to gui :09:51
hatred:p09:51
josemiprotocolX: maybe your CD is crashed09:51
madsentopyli: What's the URL of that repo?09:51
zerokillsdamnit, my wireless mouse ran out of battery again09:52
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topylimadsen: i have this: deb ftp://ftp2.caliu.info/backports/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse bleeding09:52
topylimadsen: don't enable it permanently, it'll update the whole system :\09:52
protocolXI can always boot the CD and goes little further with language,keyboard selection ect. But always fails when reading package info. from CD.09:52
protocolXjosemi: I don't think anything to do with crashing CD.09:53
madsentopyli: Hmm, so just enable it, run apt-get update, install wesnoth, disable the repo and then apt-get update again... Or what?09:53
protocolXThis is very weird problem.09:54
madsentopyli: or pinning?09:54
topylimadsen: yeah. do a search on wesnoth before installing. it has some extra goodies too :)09:54
madsentopyli: K, I will. :)09:54
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topylimadsen: pinning is overkill for a single non-critical package IMO09:55
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madsentopyli: Hehe, you're right. :)09:55
madsentopyli: But I guess I'll have to 'hold' wesnoth then or it'll just be downgraded during next upgrade... Or what?09:56
topylimadsen: no, apt doesn't downgrade09:56
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madsentopyli: It did on one of my friends's system... Actually with wesnoth...09:56
topylimadsen: it just makes sure you have the latest09:57
madsentopyli: He might have run a dist-upgrade though...09:57
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topylimadsen: weird09:57
madsentopyli: Yeah, I didn't get it either.. I've been using debian for like 3 years and never seen anything like that happen...09:58
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parabolizeI need the 7664 nvidia driver so my GF6200 will work but I can't get it to install. My FX5700LE works with the 7174 version from ubuntu but the 7664 from nvidia won't install. I have removed the nvidia .deb packages. Here is the log http://users.adelphia.net/~phann8/nvidia-installer.log. I tried ldconfig and rm /usr/lib/libGL.*09:58
topylimadsen: could happen because of dependencies. but what depends on wesnoth? :)09:58
madsentopyli: Anyways, thanks for the help with the wesnoth packages. :) Installing them now and getting a bite to eat. :)09:58
madsentopyli: hehe09:58
Hhhhhparabolize: nice card btw09:58
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parabolizewhat the 5700LE? its not that bad in linux09:59
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parabolizeI got the 6200 because the 5700LE is to hot and I hear the 6200 plays dvd better10:00
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parabolizeI think some openGL file is in the way but I can't find it10:04
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kvidellah.. there we go10:05
kvidellgot BX setup on the BSD box I keep my IRC screen sessions on10:05
kvidellepic is nice but.... I like colours :)10:05
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greghow do i enable DMA for my cdroms drive, it seems to be disable per default ?10:06
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Battletuxhey has anyone tried to install gnump3d lately? there is an issue with the md510:07
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kvidellhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30949&highlight=enable+dma10:07
Battletuxgreg: www.ubuntuguide.org10:07
kvidellmy link is a nice little how to on enabling dma specifically designed for CD devices :)10:07
cletuscan I access my ntfs disk from ubuntu?10:07
Battletuxcletus: goto www.ubuntuguide.org/10:08
parabolizewhere else would a libGL file be besides /usr/lib and /usr/X11R6/lib?10:08
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kvidellcletus: Yea, add something that looks like this to your /etc/fstab file: /dev/hda1 /media/windows ntfs ro,umask=0222 0 010:08
pepsiparabolize, ask locate10:08
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albackerBYe guys !10:09
kvidellBattletux: Try to actually help people before telling them to shove off. This is an RTFM-free environment :)10:09
bob2well10:09
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bob2pointing people politely at documentatin is fine10:09
bob2repeating docs on irc is silly10:09
eyequeueBattletux:  /topic10:10
pepsihi bob210:10
bob2aloha10:10
cletusthankyou _10:10
cletus:)10:10
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eyequeueBattletux:  for the md510:10
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parabolizelocate libGL. shows nothing and libGL shows some GLU stuff but thats not open gl is it?10:10
bob2parabolize: xlibmesa-gl provides it10:11
pepsii see libGL in /usr/lib and /usr/X11R6/lib10:11
kvidellbob2: I wouldn't have said anything but it coming up twice in a row with nothing in between kind of irked me... that and I'm feeling silly 'cause I just got "contributor" o nthe fourm ;) hehe.10:11
parabolizepepsi: you have nivida installed don't you. ;)10:12
eyequeue/usr/lib/libGLU.so.110:12
parabolizeya but is that open gl10:12
parabolize?10:12
bob2parabolize: no10:13
zerokillsmadsen: is there a way to run wesnoth in a window?10:13
bob2parabolize: xlibmesa-gl provides the file10:13
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eyequeuexlibmesa-gl: /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.110:14
eyequeuelibglu1-xorg: /usr/X11R6/lib/libGLU.so.110:14
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vago19wenas10:14
xirtami changed from debian/sid to ubuntu in a running system ... i get some dependency problems now .. because of newer packages in debian/sid ...10:14
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vago19hello10:15
xirtamanybody knows how i can force to install some packages ... or any other way to get rid of this problemes?10:15
eyequeuexirtam:  apt-get install foo/hoary10:15
zerokillshello vago1910:15
vago19hello i am spanish10:15
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eyequeuexirtam:  apt-get --reinstall install foo/hoary perhaps, if needed10:16
vago19how are a one girl in this chat10:16
zerokillshaha10:16
NicPvago19, what?10:17
zerokillshe left10:17
NicPohh10:17
NicPcouldnt understand him anyway10:17
NicP:P10:17
zerokillshaha, guess he didnt realize this is for tech support10:17
xirtameyequeue: does not work ... ;(10:18
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NicPit is?10:18
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xirtameyequeue: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/python2.4-pyorbit_2.0.1-1ubuntu5_i386.deb (--unpack):10:18
xirtam trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/pkgconfig/pyorbit-2.pc', which is also in package python2.3-pyorbit10:18
zerokillswell, and talking about linux10:18
eyequeuexirtam:  what precisely would you like to do?10:18
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eyequeuexirtam:  oh boy10:19
xirtameyequeue: ?10:19
eyequeuexirtam:  this is why people usually say debian and ubuntu repositories should not be mixed10:19
zerokillsNicP: how do you do that? im new to IRC10:20
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mhzre10:20
xirtameyequeue: yes i know ... ;( but i did allready ...10:20
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NicPhow do i do what?10:20
NicPohh type /me bleh10:20
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eyequeuexirtam:  yes, not sure what to advise10:20
zerokillsahhh10:20
zerokillstight10:20
plod[wk] how do i leave my email messages on server for a set amount of days with evolution?10:20
patrick_wow, I actually installed my first distro!10:20
eyequeuepatrick_:  congrats10:20
NicPits hard hey patrick_10:21
NicP;)10:21
xirtameyequeue: can i force to remove this packages ... ? to reinstall them from ubuntu ... ?10:21
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patrick_been trying like hell for 6 months.. finally I tried ubuntu today and whamo.. success! , thanks guys10:21
eyequeuexirtam:  i suppose you could try10:21
Phreakazoidhooray for unbuntu :)10:21
zerokillspatrick_: welcome to the freeworld10:21
Phreakazoidubuntu10:21
Phreakazoidrather10:21
patrick_aye, it's nice to have some control :)10:21
PhreakazoidI'm happy that my ISP has mirrored the ubuntu apt repository10:22
Phreakazoidhooray :)10:22
ubuntu_Does anyone use an IBM ThinkPad?10:22
kvidellubuntu_: I do.10:22
patrick_I do10:22
patrick_!10:22
ubotuI haven't a clue, patrick_10:22
ubuntu_Excellent.10:22
kvidellT30 and T42p10:22
xirtameyequeue: but how can i remove them?/10:22
kvidellMy fiance has an R51 :)10:22
patrick_T43 266872U10:22
ubuntu_I am having problems with my R31.10:22
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kvidellpatrick_: what're the specs on that model? Mine's got the 15" display @ 1600x1200 + 2gigs ram + 2.10ghz Pentium M10:23
eyequeuexirtam:  for example, sudo dpkg --purge foo, or you can use synaptic10:23
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ubuntu_Is there any known issues with the trackpoint driver?10:23
kvidellubuntu_: what might the problem be?10:23
zerokillswireless mouse*10:23
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kvidelltrackpoint? the nipple?10:23
ubuntu_Um.. P3-M 1.13, 384, 30GB10:23
kvideller.. eraser10:23
kvidell>.>10:23
patrick_14.1 1400x1050 Sonoma 760, 512 for now, 80GB 540010:23
ubuntu_The little red thing.10:23
syndkvidell: 15" @ 16x12? wow10:23
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zerokillsnipple?10:23
patrick_ATI 64mb X30010:24
mhzhas anyone here set up NFS ????10:24
ubuntu_13", 1024x76810:24
xirtameyequeue: dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of python2.4 ... ;(10:24
eyequeuezerokills:  some laptops have a red bump as a mouse10:24
patrick_trackpoint is working fine for me10:24
kvidellzerokills: Yea, that's what I call the little "eraser" mouse thing between the G H and B keys on ThinkPads10:24
patrick_although the trackpoint button isn't working as of yet10:24
ubuntu_Must be mobo problem then...10:24
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nipplehehe10:24
kvidellubunutu_ Yea, no problems with my TrackPoint either... what does your xorg conf look like? (the mouse section(s))?10:24
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eyequeuezerokills:  try one in a store some time, i personally couldn't stand one10:25
zerokillslol10:25
ubuntu_Well, sometimes when I move cursor, wierd things happen.10:25
pepsithe eraser is way better than a trackpad10:25
ubuntu_It's like using a wrong driver with a mouse.10:25
kvidelloh.. so it works just not.. well..10:25
patrick_? trackpoint and three buttons, two(which work) act like right and left mouse, and third the is the scroll(which doesn't work) then there's the touchpad.. works nicely10:25
zerokillseyequeue: i think i have tried one before, wasnt too impressed10:25
ubuntu_It only happens for say 2 seconds once in a while.10:25
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eyequeuepepperpot:  depends on the individual's coordination i think10:26
ubuntu_Oh and yes the scroll (middle) button doesn't work, and is not even recognised as a middle button.10:26
eyequeuepepsi:  rather10:26
zerokills202 more minutes, if this doesnt work im gonna be pissed10:26
patrick_so there's no driver for it?10:26
liableubuntu_: could be the actuall device, mine spasses every once in a while (moves without me moving it)10:26
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ubuntu_*sigh* This R31 have had a lot of faults.10:27
kvidellhmm...10:27
patrick_how old is your R series?10:27
kvidellliable: All of mine have done that on many OS's.. :-\10:27
ubuntu_1. Motherboard dies for no apparent reason, fixed under warranty.10:27
kvidellit's just that the little nubbin is VERY sensitive and gets "stuck" every now and then10:27
kvidellit's a physical device problem, not software10:27
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dan_hi guys10:27
kvidellif I wiggle it a little it stops10:27
kvidellthinkpad-base - Configuration files for thinkpad-modules packages10:27
ubuntu_2. LCD Screen does not operate correctly: red lines across the entire screen, affected by what is displayed on screen.10:27
zerokillskvidell: the nipple?10:28
dan_anyone running a NIS server with OSC clients?10:28
kvidellzerokills: nipple, nubbin, eraser...10:28
kvidellwhatever :-P10:28
liablekvidell: yah, mine does it with windows too, waiting for it too crap out. Has lived in some dusty hot humid places, so I dont think its too bad.10:28
zerokillshehe10:28
dan_I was running a RHEL 3 server with no problems, switch to Ubuntu Hoary and NIS no longer works :(10:28
zerokillshi dan_10:28
zerokillshmm10:28
dan_zerokills, hi there, can you help?  I'm in a panic, noone can login this morning :(10:28
ubuntu_3. Now the motherboard (maybe bios) is not functioning correctly, it had just killed a hard disk's boot secotr.10:28
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dan_zerokills, brb10:29
pmjdebruijndan_: didn't you do a lab trial first?10:29
ubuntu_patrick_: 2-3 years I think. This is an R31.10:29
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zerokillsdan_: sorry im not familiar with your situation10:29
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mhzhas anyone here set up NFS ????10:30
zerokillsnot i10:30
patrick_I see, are they treating you ok with regards to the warranty? ie, turnover rate? fixing it fast?10:30
ubuntu_Yes, well fault number 1 was fixed, very good response.10:31
ubuntu_But that was at the end of warranty period of 1 year already.10:31
patrick_I just bought my thinkpad last week, my old CL56 was too hard to get distros working on.. finally I needed an upgrade and wouldn't ya know that in one shot the install works10:31
ubuntu_I don't think I would get ThinkPad ever again.10:32
josemidan_: check permissions, check config files and give details10:32
thesamettopyly: about tetex dependencies again. Is there some tool to get it done recursively?10:32
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dan_josemi, I didn't get the chance first, we have no lab here10:32
dan_josemi, small network10:32
patrick_sorry to hear that.. they're built strong, very rugged. maybe you got a bad make?10:32
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dan_josemi, I can ypcat passwd and ypcat hosts and see the maps10:32
dan_josemi, but when I try and login or su I get the passwd refused10:33
ubuntu_Perhaps. It is a plastic chassis, not aluminium/magnesium which I would prefer.10:33
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josemidan_ : so you cannot log into the system anyway ?10:33
josemihave you physiscal access ?10:33
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ubuntu_I would agree with TP's being rugged by looking at my old TP380D (Pentium 150) but not this R31.10:33
dan_josemi, I can login as root10:34
patrick_hmm.. I thought the standad was magnesium composite..10:34
dan_josemi, can't login as NIS user10:34
josemimm10:34
josemicheck /etc/passwd file10:34
josemifor inconsistences10:34
ubuntu_Is it? Well it feels like plastic. Seriously.10:34
patrick_yes.. AFAIK R aren't built like T's10:34
dan_josemi, if I login as root I can ypcat passwd and see the passwd map10:34
patrick_T's are a better construction and design10:34
ubuntu_how's T's different from R's, and which series are best?10:34
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patrick_T's are best for that overall ballance of performance and mobility..10:35
josemidan_: I dunno about NIS problems cause I'm not an expert on this, but---10:35
ubuntu_What about X's?10:35
HrdwrBoBRs are huge10:35
HrdwrBoBbut cheap10:35
josemiseems miss-configured10:35
patrick_if you want ultra mobility then it's the X's10:35
HrdwrBoBX is small and excellent10:35
patrick_yes10:35
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ubuntu_Ah.10:35
josemisurely due to an update (hoary)10:35
ubuntu_I think I would rather Toshiba Portege though.10:35
josemitry to reconfigure again the NIS server10:35
josemiif you can10:35
dan_works for a Hoary client10:35
patrick_R's and G's are mostly desktop replacemetns10:36
dan_works for all other clients except OS X10:36
josemiam10:36
kvidellI thought the T's were their more "hardcore" models?10:36
kvidellThey're coated in plastic and tend to have better hardware10:36
ubuntu_You must have a lot of think pads, and used them for ages.10:36
josemiyou get an error or just simply "cannot access"10:36
patrick_they are kvidell10:36
dan_the passwd dialog does the bouncy thing, just like you gave the wrong one10:36
kvidellthen again mine did cost $4000 :-\10:36
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kvidellso whatever. >.>10:37
ubuntu_$4000 us?10:37
patrick_yes, T's are their best line10:37
kvidellyea10:37
ubuntu_Thats quite a lot.10:37
kvidellI'm not sure how much my Fiance's R51 cost.. just over 1000$/usd I think10:37
HrdwrBoBI just bought a s/h R4010:37
HrdwrBoBfor $700AUD10:37
zerokillsid rather build my own computer for about $80010:37
patrick_mine cost 1900, with and educational discount, it would've retailed for 280010:37
ubuntu_Excellent. another person from AUS.10:38
kvidellwell... I didn't pay for this :)10:38
kvidellIt's on a two year lease through my employer10:38
kvidell(Cisco Systems)10:38
HrdwrBoBzerokills: build a laptop for $800 then10:38
patrick_ah10:38
kvidellNo way I would buy a $4000 laptop :-P10:38
kassetraI just spent about $4000 on mine...10:38
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zerokillshrdwrbob: lol, ill just carry my desktop around with me10:38
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patrick_lol strapped10:38
kvidellAlthough I ~REALLY~ like the display on this thing... and the 2 gigs of ram is a nice touch.10:38
josemidan_ : then I have no idea, so surely it's a change on your NIS config made by an update or something similar.10:39
ubuntu_I like portability, not "a desktop that folds in half"10:39
josemidan_ : sorry10:39
josemiso check de OS X client if you can.10:39
kvidellhehe.10:39
dan_josemi, reverting back to old server now, gonna go over it with a seperate client10:39
patrick_you should look into their T series then.. lightweight at 4.9 without the battery , super thin at 1" and it's rugged..10:39
kvidellMy next laptop will be a PowerBook10:40
ubuntu_Speaking of displays, has anyone seen a TFT screen having red lines across the entire screen? it is not dead pixels, but more like poor contact.10:40
kvidellyea... the plastic coating on these things is insane.10:40
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josemidan_ : ok, good luck.10:40
patrick_IBM's keyboards are topnotch, which mattered in my decision making10:40
shinuwhat program can i use to cut a small part of a video out?10:41
ubuntu_There is a ThinkPad key, volume up, down and mute keys on the keyboard of this R31. Any idea of getting them to work?10:41
josemiubuntu_: use an app named10:42
josemihotkeys10:42
patrick_shoot, mine don't work either10:42
josemior something similar10:42
josemiwait..10:42
kvidelljosemi: Doesn't work oon ThinkPads10:42
kvidellthese are hardware controlled10:42
joseminopes ?10:42
kvidellMine just work :-\10:42
hornsby_shinu, GOPchop10:42
kvidellTry apt-get install thinkpad-base10:42
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Hatredevening :)10:42
kvidellthat fixed a few things on my fiance's R5110:42
zerokillshola10:42
josemihola10:42
shinuhornsby_: thanks ill try that :)10:43
Hatred:)10:43
hornsby_shinu, what format you want to use ?10:43
Hatredi think my glx drivers are b0rked :|10:43
ubuntu_They're not mapped as keyboard keys, because I can't set them using the "Keyboard Shortcuts" settings.10:43
hornsby_GOPchop is for mpeg2-PS10:43
Hatred" Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". "10:43
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hornsby_shinu, otherwise kino is good too10:44
mhzAccording to :~$ cat /boot/config-2.6.10-5-powerpc |grep -i nfs  (default hoarty PPC)  I do have NFS compiled. therefore, WHY when I do 'cat /proc/filesystem' i see no "nfs" match, nor i can insmode it ???10:44
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stjepanhi10:44
Hatredhi :)10:44
stjepanI have xfce and gnome10:44
shinuhornsby_: the file is an avi i think... i dont know much about this stuff :P10:44
ubuntu_kvidell: how do I use apt-get10:44
stjepanhow can I switch from xfce to gnome and from gnome to xfce?10:44
kvidellfrom your favourite terminal application, sudo apt-get install thinkpad-base10:44
kvidellit'll ask you for a password.. that's your user pass10:45
shinuhornsby_: i think its an xvid...10:45
kvidellyou can do it from synaptic too if you like that better10:45
hornsby_shinu, then you can try kino, dvdrip, acidrip10:45
ubuntu_E: Couldn't find package thinkpad-base10:45
shinuhornsby_: ill try kino first i think, thanks a lot10:45
bigfoot1Hi everyone. I have a problem connecting to the internet. May I tell it all here?10:45
hornsby_ok, it is a movie from the net :)10:45
zerokillsubuntu_ have you changed your sources.list?10:45
kvidelloh.. it's in the universe utilities10:45
ubuntu_sources.list?10:46
stjepanpls help10:46
kvidellyep10:46
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stjepanis there any switcher?10:46
hornsby_shinu, then you might want to try dvdrip or acidrip10:46
ubuntu_what is sources.list?10:46
shinuok10:46
shinuubuntu_: /etc/apt/sources.list10:46
shinui think... :P10:46
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hornsby_correct10:47
ubuntu_yes.. I'm in.10:47
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ubuntu_what do I uncomment?10:47
stjepan:(10:48
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syndubuntu_: www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories10:48
Hatredhey, i keep getting this error, i think my glx drivers are broken??10:48
HatredXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".10:48
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hornsby_ubuntu_,lines refering to universe10:48
ubuntu_Thanks.10:48
stjepanoh10:49
ubuntu_It's a readonly file?10:49
hornsby_ubuntu_, edit as root10:49
ubuntu_W10: Warning: Changing a readonly file10:49
ubuntu_Ah, I see.10:49
zerokillsin terminal type: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list10:49
hornsby_sudo gedit /etc/apt/source.list10:49
stjepando you have two window managers?10:49
hornsby_sources :)10:49
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ubuntu_ok. saved. now I'll try apt-get again.10:50
anacronubuntu_: update first10:50
bigfoot1I'm a 1-monthy newbie with a fundamental problem: connecting to the internet. Can I share the problem here, please? It's a rather long message.10:50
kvidellrun an update first (sudo apt-get update)10:50
Hajuuhey there10:50
mhzhas anyone here set up NFS ????10:50
zerokillsubuntu_: first type: sudo apt-get update10:50
mhzAccording to :~$ cat /boot/config-2.6.10-5-powerpc |grep -i nfs  (default hoarty PPC)  I do have NFS compiled. therefore, WHY when I do 'cat /proc/filesystem' i see no "nfs" match, nor i can insmode it ???10:50
ubuntu_W: Couldn't stat source package list http://au.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/au.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)10:50
kvidelloh10:51
ubuntu_Ah. update.10:51
kvidellyea.. remove the au. from those10:51
kvidellthe mirrors are kind of cracked out right now10:51
kvidelland do the update too10:51
kvidell(after removing au.)10:51
ubuntu_No, I;m in au.10:51
kvidellI know.. but the mirrors are cracked out10:51
hornsby_au mirrors are down at the moment10:51
syndi believe the mirrors are okay now?10:51
kvidellyou have to use the US mirror... you can try the au. mirrors first if you have bandwidth fines like the Kiwis do10:51
Hajuuanyone know of a decent partition manager for linux? I tried using fdisk to remove my ntfs partition and create a new linux one.. but everytime I do, my changes are lost after reset.. but when I quit and write changes.. and reopen fdisk and check before I reboot... Its all like I set it.. just after I restart... wierd.. so anyone know of a better program for it?10:52
ubuntu_Bandwidth? I'm on 28.8k cable connection.10:52
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ubuntu_so yes, it will take a while.10:52
synd28.8k cable?10:52
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ubuntu_Hajuu: cfdisk for text based10:52
Hajuuah thats what I was thinking of heh10:53
zerokillsthats slow cable10:53
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ubuntu_I'm capped on speed10:53
peter2I have a sound problem after checking the forums in detail - sound was working before10:53
ubuntu_Since I exceeded my 200mb monthly limit10:53
bigfoot1Okay, everyone, please bear with me with the succeeding message....10:53
zerokillsooh10:53
bigfoot1Hello, everyone. A very important problem. Since yesterday, I've been having a hard time connecting to the internet. I have a broadband (always on) connection to the internet. The way I set up my internet connection with ubuntu is by running "sudopppoeconf." I have not had any problems since yesterday. I've had this problem happening about 4 times. The first time it happened, I was setting up "synce" (to get my PDA working with Ubuntu).10:53
bigfoot1Just five minutes ago, I went to the computer and I tried connecting to the net, specifically by opening up Firefox and X-Chat. Neither worked. Attempting to figure out what the problem is, I did "ppoeconf." It found 1 ethernet device: eth0. I hit enter. The window said "   Looking for PPPoE Access Concentrator on eth0..." Then it said,  "Sorry, I scanned 1 interface, but the Access10:53
bigfoot1 Concentrator of your provider did not respond. Please check your network and modem cables. Another reason for the scan failure may also be another running pppoe process which controls the modem.10:53
peter2anyone can provide quick suggestions ?10:53
bigfoot1I thought that was strange. Anyway, afterwards, I restarted the computer, and now everything's fine. I ran "sudo ppoeconf" again this time, and it said "DSL CONNECTION FOUND10:53
bigfoot1I found an Access Concentrator on eth0. Should I setup PPPOE for this connection?"10:53
bigfoot110:53
bigfoot1The next time it happens again, how can I pinpoint what the problem is?10:53
bigfoot1Thank you very much!10:53
zerokillsahhh, bigfoot1, try not to paste that in this channel10:54
zerokillstoo much spam10:54
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bigfoot1zerokills, I was thinking of that too, but what is better? that isn't spam. That is a description of the problem I'm facing. Thank you for your understanding.10:54
ubuntu_Hajuu: qtparted would also be nice, comes on knoppix but not ubuntu10:55
ubuntu_...10:55
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bigfoot1can anyone please help me with the above?10:55
kvidellbigfoot1: You could type it out and make us feel like you care about us :( (hold on, lemme read it all :-P There's A lot!)10:55
zerokillsbigfoot1: np, i understand, but you can /query that to someone10:55
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ubuntu_Ok, thanks to everyone who has helped me with thinkpad-base. This will take a while, so I'm going now. Bye!10:56
bigfoot1zerokills, what's query? I am a newbie. I ask for your patience with an inexperienced ubuntu user.10:56
zerokillslater ubuntu_10:56
peter2anyone to help me out with a sound issue ?10:56
bigfoot1zerokills, and anyway, how do i know to whom I should relay the message to?10:56
hornsby_peter2, expose your problem10:56
bigfoot1kvidell, I'm thanking you for your present help.10:57
zerokillsbigfoot1: find someone to help you with it, i cant scroll up and read what you typed because my wireless mouse ran out of battery.. whats the problem? short and sweet10:57
peter2ok, i created a new user to have GNOME back up running after it crashed so bad i had to create a new user to get into it10:58
peter2now sound does not work with the new user10:58
peter2I have my settings lsmod|grep snd10:58
hornsby_peter2, does it work with "normal" user ?10:59
bigfoot1zerokills, i'm sorry to hear that your mouse is currently drained of energy. The problem is, internet (pppoe/dsl) connection problem.10:59
peter2hmmm can i try this from terminal ?10:59
peter2the new user replaces the old one though (created new user as admin and sudoer)10:59
hornsby_peter2, ok, got it10:59
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bigfoot1kvidell, where it says " I have not had any problems since yesterday", change that to "until yesterday." I've had no internet problems from the time I installed ubuntu (1 month ago) until yesterday.11:00
zerokillsbigfoot1: hmmm, im pretty new to linux myself, i wouldnt know where to begin with networking and internet problems, sorry11:00
hornsby_peter2, i am not gnome user so I dunno really but I would check the rights of the new user11:01
peter2how do i do that ?11:01
bigfoot1zerokills, thank you for your reply.11:01
bigfoot1Can anyone help me with my abovementioned essay-length 8-) problem?11:02
zerokillslol11:02
GazaMI have only just joined the irc channel, could you please repeat?11:02
bigfoot1gazam, are you talking with me? 8-)11:02
GazaMyes11:02
bigfoot1can I pm you with the whole story?11:02
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GazaMyes, feel free11:03
bigfoot1thank you. Please stand by.11:03
GazaMok11:03
bigfoot1Hello, everyone. A very important problem. Since yesterday, I've been having a hard time connecting to the internet. I have a broadband (always on) connection to the internet. The way I set up my internet connection with ubuntu is by running "sudopppoeconf." I have not had any problems until yesterday. I've had this problem happening about 4 times. The first time it happened, I was setting up "synce" (to get my PDA working with Ubuntu).11:03
bigfoot1Just five minutes ago, I went to the computer and I tried connecting to the net, specifically by opening up Firefox and X-Chat. Neither worked. Attempting to figure out what the problem is, I did "ppoeconf." It found 1 ethernet device: eth0. I hit enter. The window said "   Looking for PPPoE Access Concentrator on eth0..." Then it said,  "Sorry, I scanned 1 interface, but the Access11:03
bigfoot1 Concentrator of your provider did not respond. Please check your network and modem cables. Another reason for the scan failure may also be another running pppoe process which controls the modem.11:03
bigfoot1I thought that was strange. Anyway, afterwards, I restarted the computer, and now everything's fine. I ran "sudo ppoeconf" again this time, and it said "DSL CONNECTION FOUND11:03
hornsby_peter2, http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#addeditdeletesystemgroups11:03
bigfoot1I found an Access Concentrator on eth0. Should I setup PPPOE for this connection?"11:03
bigfoot111:03
bigfoot1The next time it happens again, how can I pinpoint what the problem is?11:03
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bigfoot1Thank you very much!11:03
peter2got it thanks hornsby11:04
Methynutnutbigfoot1: by the way, that wasn't a pm11:04
parabolizelol11:05
bigfoot1Methynutnut, oh really? I'm so sorry.11:05
bigfoot1Methynutnut, you mean it was posted in this chatroom?11:05
bigfoot1so sorry.11:05
Methynutnutheh11:05
parabolizeya don't worry about it.11:05
GazaMlol11:05
bigfoot1how do i do a private message?11:05
parabolizein xchat?11:06
Methynutnut/msg <user> <message>11:06
GazaMYou should have a tab at the bottom11:06
GazaMyou've opened one with me11:06
GazaMbeside the #ubuntu tab11:06
Methynutnutif you're using x-chat you can right click on their name and choose open dialog window11:06
parabolizeto the right if #ubuntu seeing as g is before u11:06
parabolizewait left :)11:07
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bigfoot1did everyone see my privatemessages to methynut with the message "test" and "testing"11:08
bigfoot1L11:08
bigfoot1?11:08
parabolizenope11:08
Methynutnutno, they didn't, because it was a private message11:08
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bigfoot1Methynutnut, but I did the same thing with GazaM, didn't I?11:08
Methynutnutnope, your spiel came up in this channel11:09
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GazaMbigfoot1, you do have a pm window open with me, you just typed in the wrong one :S11:10
bigfoot1I think I know what happenened. The first line of my message to Gazam _was_ a pm, but Xchat didn't continue making  the rest of my essay to him a pm. I used /msg GazaM  <essay here>11:10
GazaMcheck the pm tab now I have replied to you11:10
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Methynutnutbigfoot1: ah, to do pastes like that, you have to open a dialog window to them and paste into that11:11
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Whistlerhow can i listen to mp3?11:11
GazaMbigfoot in xchat there is no need to use the /msg command as you only need to right-click a user and select pm.11:11
GazaMWhistler, go to www.ubuntuguide.org11:11
GazaMit is explained there very well and simply11:11
parabolizeWhistler: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs11:12
bigfoot1GazaM, Methynutnut, okay. No more "/msg <usernickname> <super long novel>"11:12
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Shuflahello :D11:12
GazaMhello11:12
zerokillshola11:12
Whistlerparabolize thx11:12
bigfoot1I was just trying to be a cool geek and keep myself from wasting 3 seconds moving my hand from the keyboard to the mouse.11:12
NgWhistler: or see the RestrictedFormats wiki entry on ubuntu.com, which is probably better11:13
zerokillshehe11:13
GazaMlol, we've all done it bigfoot11:13
Ngubuntuguide is a bit basic11:13
parabolizeWhistler no problem :)11:13
ubuntu_Does anyone know how to use thinkpad-base?11:13
Whistler=] 11:13
bigfoot1whistler, do you live in Whistler/Blackomb?11:13
GazaMubuntuguide is basic, because it is intended for new users11:13
Whistlerz] 11:14
bigfoot1whistler: a venue for the 2010 Winter Olympics!11:14
Whistler=] 11:14
NgGazaM: basic and not as good as the official wiki, I mean ;)11:14
Whistlerggmmm.11:14
GazaMTrue, I agree completely, but my point is that ubuntuguide is intended for copy-paste.11:14
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GazaMthe wiki explains everything in more detail11:15
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Whistleri still cant find how to add mp3 support11:15
Whistlerhttp://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs11:15
parabolizeI like the wiki and the guide. I just use them for differnt stuff11:15
Whistleri dont see mp311:15
podgeGazaM: It would make sense that when a user clicks on an MP3 file it should give them the option to setup MP3 playback.11:15
NgWhistler: it's the gstreamer0.8-mad one you need11:15
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NgWhistler: tbh I'd go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats if I were you11:15
parabolizeya the gstreamer11:16
GazaMpodge, I agree but I'm not a ubuntu developer, so I can't help make that happen11:16
bigfoot1Why does a restart of my computer fix the internet connection (always on DSL connection) problem I have? Is there a command I can run that will save me from restarting my computer?11:17
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parabolizeWhistler: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins, sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-lame, and gst-register-0.8 should do it11:18
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llebergHow do i burn a cd in hoary? :)11:20
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zerokillslleberg: k3b11:20
Razor-Xis us.archive.ubuntu.org still down?11:21
Whistlerwhen i type sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins11:21
Whistleri get an errot11:21
Whistleri get an error11:21
zerokillshave you added the extra repos, whistler?11:21
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FunraiserTCP wrapper is not installed on Ubuntu?11:22
Razor-Xzerokills: are the marliat repos down as well?11:22
parabolizeWhistler don't skip step 211:22
zerokillsrazor-x: im not sure11:22
Razor-Xand, are there still problems with us.ubuntu.archive.org?11:22
Razor-XI tried an apt-get to get tex, and dvipdf is not getting any of the fonts11:22
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zerokillswhats update do?11:23
Funraiserok it is11:23
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mindspinhi, after uptading to kde 3.4.1 I'm experiencing frequently crashes of firefox and gxine. Any idea ?11:23
mindspinupdating11:23
parabolizelleberg: gnomebacker11:23
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Razor-Xzerokills11:23
Razor-Xzerokills: is that rhetorical?11:23
Whistlergrrrr.11:24
parabolize:) sorry11:24
Whistlerdeb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted11:24
Whistlerwhere i shoul put this?11:24
Whistlerwhere i should put this?11:24
zerokillsheh, no im asking what happens when you run update11:25
Phreakazoidin /etc/apt/sources.list11:25
newbiehow can i enable numlock at start-up?11:25
Razor-XWhistler: read the wiki11:25
Razor-Xzerokills: well, on the marliat repos, the md5sums don't match11:25
Razor-Xbut, everything else is fine11:25
Whistleri read11:25
Razor-Xeven though, earlier, us.archive was up11:25
Whistlertheres no add button only new11:25
Razor-Xbut the packages wouldn't install because of md5sum errors11:25
Whistlerand no custom11:25
Whistlerbutton11:25
parabolizenewbie: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#numlockx11:26
Whistlerat synaptic11:26
Razor-XWhistler: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list then11:26
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newbiethanks parabolize11:26
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zerokillsmarilats must be down11:26
Whistlerrazor-x i cant edit that file11:27
Razor-Xthought so11:27
podgemindspin : Did you try reinstalling firefox and gxine..11:27
Razor-XWhistler: sudo edit it11:27
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zerokillswhistler: in terminal type: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list11:27
NgWhistler: did you read the RestrictedFormats page? it should cover all of this11:27
mindspinpodge not yet11:27
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parabolizeWhistler: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list11:28
parabolizeWhistler: make a copy first though!11:28
Whistlerand what shoul i write there?11:28
Whistler=] 11:28
Whistlerand what should i write there?11:28
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Razor-XWhistler: first off, sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.bak11:29
parabolizeWhistler: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories11:29
Ngparabolize: this is what happens when you link people to rubbish quality basic help sites ;)11:29
Razor-Xthat'll back it up for ya11:29
zerokillslol Ng11:29
Razor-XNg: it was better when I first looked at it11:29
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Razor-Xgetting dumber and dumber11:29
parabolizeNg: some do read it though. even less people will read the wiki11:29
shinui have this strange problem, and it tells me to run apt-get update, but when i run i still get: W: Couldn't stat source package list ftp://ftp.nerim.net stable/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.nerim.net_debian-marillat_dists_stable_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)11:30
shinuhow can i fix it?11:30
newbieparabolize: is there other methods than the link u gave me11:30
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podgemindspin: Also, #kubuntu might be a better place to ask especially if you are running KDE.11:30
parabolizenewbie: probably why?11:30
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mindspinI know11:30
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mindspinand I asked there...11:30
zerokillsno one helps in #kubuntu11:31
newbiecause i dont have internet at home11:31
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podgezerokills: That is a shame..11:31
zerokillstheyre all a bunch of slackers11:31
podgemindspin: So you didn't get any help.. :(11:31
Nermalzerokills, you get what you pay for11:31
mindspinthe only answer was "I use opera.."11:31
Razor-Xpodge: no, it's not11:31
zerokillshehe11:31
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Razor-X#kubuntu is dead11:31
Whistleropera rulz11:31
mindspinkinda11:31
Whistler=] 11:31
Razor-XWhistler: amen to that11:31
parabolizenewbie save the .deb to disk11:31
jalystanyone here installed FreeNX server successfully on hoary?11:32
podgemindspin: So you 100% need the latest KDE? :)11:32
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zerokillsbrb, brushing my teeth11:32
podgeRazor-X: okay..11:32
Razor-Xjalyst: never say 'anyone' say 'anyone here now'11:32
Whistleranother question11:32
Whistlerhow can i install deb11:32
newbieok I'll do it.11:32
Whistlerfiles?11:32
Razor-Xif it's attemptable, it's been done ;)11:32
NermalWhistler, dpkg -i11:32
mindspinpodge, nope, but I hoped it resoled some minor bugs haha11:32
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parabolizenewbie use dpkg to install the deb when you get home11:33
Razor-XWhistler: dpkg -i11:33
Whistlernermal it gives me an error11:33
mindspinresolved11:33
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newbieok thanks..11:33
Ngsudo dpkg -i package.deb11:33
jalysthave you done it razor, if so how did you get started11:33
Nermalwhiprush, oh11:33
podgemindspin: resolved?11:33
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NermalWhistler, oh11:33
Razor-Xjalyst: ahh, haven't, but maybe I can help11:33
Whistler=] 11:33
Razor-Xyou're looking to compile it?11:33
podgemindframe: Got ya..11:33
mindspinnot really11:33
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podgemindspin: Got ya.. (wrong mind!!!)11:33
jalystno, hopefully just dowload precombiled binaries for ubuntu11:34
Whistleri am so stupid i dont know how to do anything11:34
Whistler=] 11:34
NermalWhistler, giving us the error would be a start now wouldn't it ?11:34
Razor-Xjalyst: doubtful they exist11:34
Whistlerok sec11:34
Razor-Xtry getting a plain debian unstable deb11:34
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jalysti found instruction on the ubuntu california wiki, but it didnt work11:34
llebergDoes ubuntu have any app for cd-burning out-of-the-box?11:34
llebergor is there some to apt-get? :)11:35
tahorgnautilus11:35
icemanlleberg yep ..11:35
Nermallleberg, nautilus can11:35
newbiei guess it has nautilus11:35
jalystyeah they have been repackaged someone who mainstains backports did it i think11:35
mindspinI'll have a try with reinstalling firefox.....11:35
Nermaljust plonk a blank cdr in11:35
Nermalor goto burn:///11:35
icemanUbuntu rocks well out of the box ...11:35
newbiebut why does nautilus cant be burn cd-rw for me?11:36
zerokillslleberg: i use k3b, sudo apt-get install k3b11:36
tahorglleberg: you want to burn audio cd ?11:36
zerokillsor is it h3b, one or the other11:36
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jalysti think its time to do some documents, wiki, & forum trawling, IRC doesnt seem to be as productive for me11:36
parabolizelleberg: get gnomebaker kb3 will need a lot of kde.11:37
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llebergtahorg, i'm not sure, it's my sister who wants it11:37
icemanI dont mind "UBUNTU" on my desktop, but untill i lear more on command line i think i'll get a MAC laptop to run linux on ...11:37
podgeI have a DVD combo drive. How come Sound Juicer only rips at a max speed of 3x?11:37
tahorglleberg: for audio cd , it's a bit different11:37
icemanWonder if ubuntu will run well on a good laptp .. pc based ...11:38
llebergi'll just ave to ask her :P11:38
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podgeiceman: Ubuntu doesn't load on my NC1000.. :(11:38
Mattteiceman... it run's very well11:38
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icemanlaptop about 300 mhz ...11:38
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podgeiceman: But it loads on my mates NC800011:38
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visorpodge: i wonder the same, try using ripperX if you want more control, or even maybe goobox11:38
Mattteiceman... aha... mine is a bit better than that11:38
Whistlerhow can i copy txt from a terminal?11:38
icemanMattte what you use11:39
Whistlercause i am to lazy to rewrite it11:39
ilucivsudo dpkg -r point2play_2.0.1_i386.deb11:39
iluciv should uninstall Point 2 play and cadgrea right???11:39
visorWhistler: select it, right click, copy...11:39
podgevisor: You have the same issues with ripping speed?11:39
llebergNermal, How do i go to the burn:/// directory?11:39
MattteIntel Mobile 1.6 :)11:39
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Whistleradmin@Linux:~ $ sudo dpkg -i opera.deb11:39
Whistler(Reading database ... 61360 files and directories currently installed.)11:39
WhistlerPreparing to replace opera 8.0-20050415.6 (using opera.deb) ...11:39
WhistlerUnpacking replacement opera ...11:39
Whistlerdpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of opera:11:39
Whistler opera depends on libqt3c102-mt (>= 3.3.1); however:11:39
Whistler  Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed.11:39
Whistlerdpkg: error processing opera (--install):11:39
Whistler dependency problems - leaving unconfigured11:39
WhistlerErrors were encountered while processing:11:39
Whistler opera11:39
Whistlerwhats wrong?11:39
ussssi installed another hardisk on my system w/ windows OS. But I decided to boot it to Ubuntu which is also in another Hardisk. How do I view the contens of my second Hardisk which my Windows Files reside. ?11:39
visorpodge: always had the same, but not with ripperX (wich is more poweful but it has an uglier UI than soundjuicer or goobox)11:40
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ussssis it in /dev/ ?11:40
podgevisor : Think I will give goobox a try..11:40
visorpodge: i think it is a GStreamer issue, if you know what that is try googling something11:40
Whistlerusss11:40
ussssi got confuse coz theres a lot of files in /dev/ directory and I dont which of those are the proper HDD11:40
Whistleryou have to mount windows11:41
Whistlerpartition11:41
visorbtw, which app you use for burning in ubuntu?11:41
Whistlerhttp://www.ubuntuguide.org/#windows11:41
zerokillshehe11:41
Whistlerlook there11:41
Whistlerit helped me11:41
Phreakazoidgoobox11:41
Phreakazoidhm11:41
Phreakazoidis there any way to use goobox's lame encoder like the command line encoder "lame -V5 --athaa-sensitivity 1" ?11:41
hornsby_virtuald, k3b11:41
visori saw there have raised some native gtk/gnome applications for burning but it seems so far that k3b its still the best one11:42
hornsby_virtuald, assuming you use kde11:42
podgevisor: Gives me something to work with.. Thanks!11:42
Phreakazoidgstreamer-lame default settings seem all wrong11:42
Phreakazoidespecially the "no short blocks" part11:42
hornsby_visor, k3b11:42
ussssWhistler, there 2 hardisk installed in my System. 1 is Ubuntu and another HDD is Windows. And Im currently booted at Ubuntu which I am using now. Both this 2 Hardisk is intalled and used IDE 1 and IDE 2 all are Master settings.11:42
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Whistlerusss so u have to muont it11:43
usssswhat I want is to view the contents of HDD the contains the Windows files11:43
Whistlerlook there11:43
ussssWhistler, how ? its my first time to use windows11:43
ussss?11:43
ilucivhow does one uninstall point 2 play and cadgera?11:43
ussssi mean lInux11:43
Whistlerit my second day on linux11:43
usssslol11:43
Whistleri installed yesterday11:43
Whistler=] 11:43
ilucivI thought sudo dpkg -r point2play_2.0.1_i386.deb11:43
Whistlerhttp://www.ubuntuguide.org/#windows11:43
iluciv would but I'm wrong11:44
keikozit's always funny on the second day11:44
Whistlerlook there11:44
ussss./mnt/ ?11:44
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newbielol whistler try to read more documents in tldp.org11:44
ussssok11:44
Whistlerusss11:44
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visorpodge: oh i forgot.... dou you have dma activated on the drive?11:44
zerokillsiluciv: is it sudo dpkg -P ? i havent uninstalled a package yet so im not certain11:44
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hornsby_iluciv, sudo apt-get remove {name soft}11:45
parabolizeussss READ http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#windows11:45
ilucivzerokills: I'll give it a go hornsby: I didn't download it with apt-get does that matter??11:45
ussssWhistler, so how to detemine the HDD im currently using now which is Ubuntu. I dont know if it is hd0 or hd1 ?11:45
Ng"sudo fdisk -l" will list all of the hard disks and their partitions in your system11:46
parabolizeussss well really you want to read http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs if your looking at windows a lot11:46
Ngso you should be able to see where the FAT/NTFS windows ones are11:46
bigfoot1hello all, about my internet connection problom, when I ran "sudo pppoeconf" and got this error message:  "Sorry, I scanned 1 interface, but the Access11:46
bigfoot1bigfoot1  Concentrator of your provider did not respond. Please check your network and modem cables. Another reason for the scan failure may also be another running pppoe process which controls the modem." I don' t think my problem is with my cables. So i think it's the alternative possible cause: "another running pppoe process which controls the modem." IF that's the problem, how can i fix it?11:46
visorhornsby_: you use k3b on ubuntu, so it works out of the box?11:46
ussssim currently in Grade school and I dont know to read some English words coz Im not american... :)11:46
podgevisor : I am checking all those things out..11:46
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hornsby_visor, i use kubuntu11:47
parabolizeussss look for one in your fstab that says ntfs in it11:47
visorpodge: let me see something and ill help you...11:47
hornsby_and it works great11:47
visorussss: where are you from?11:47
ussssis it in /etc/11:47
ussss?11:47
Phreakazoidussss, I've known English my whole live and I've never lived in America, let alone actually am American11:47
Phreakazoid*life11:47
ussssvisor, iceland where tux live11:47
visorussss: ohh i see, so whats your native language?11:48
parabolizeussss yes sudo gedit /etc/fstab11:48
ussssparabolize,  sudo gedit the /etc/fstab ?11:48
ussssok11:48
ussssill try11:48
visorgeez, i can consider american too, because ive grown in the American continent, but not in the US :P11:48
parabolizeussss do this first before editing sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab_backup11:49
shinuanyone else has problems with ftp.nerim.net? (marrilat)11:49
visorhornsby_: ohh i see, i though you use ubuntu (gnome)11:49
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ivoks:>11:49
hornsby_visor, nop11:49
hornsby_visor, it shouldnt be a prob on gnome11:49
newbieussss read man fstab if you're not sure on the contents11:49
ussssparabolize, do I have to change the 0's to 1 ?11:49
Whistlerhttp://wiki.clug.org.za/clugwiki/index.php/How_do_I_install_a_.deb_file_I_downloaded_without_compromising_dependencies%3F11:49
Whistleri use 2nd method11:50
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ussssim not in the contents... :)11:50
newbiethat help you understand the contents11:50
WhistlerUsing apt to install one or more .deb files (quick and dirty solution)11:50
ussssits too long to read....11:50
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WhistlerEdit to your sources.list file and add a line like this:11:50
Whistler    file:///home/debs /11:50
aatimhow can i edit my PATH?11:50
parabolizeussss NO read http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs right now just look for a line with ntfs in it11:50
ussssthere's 0's int the file11:50
Whistleri add this line at the end11:50
ussssok11:50
ivoksexport PATH="/some/other/path:$PATH"11:50
ussssscanning........11:50
Whistlerand it doest work11:50
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bali30006alia boleh kenal11:51
ussss/dev/hdc1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       111:51
ussss/dev/hda        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0       011:51
bali30006gered11:51
ussssand floppy, that what I only seen here11:52
bali30006ssssssssssssssssst11:52
newbieussss read man fstab... that would help you11:52
ussssyes Im reading...11:52
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usssswait....... Ill paste it all here....11:52
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ussss# /etc/fstab: static file system information.11:52
ussss#11:52
ussss# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>11:52
ussssproc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       011:52
ussss/dev/hdc1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       111:52
ussss/dev/hdc5       none            swap    sw              0       011:52
ussss/dev/hda        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0       011:52
ussss/dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       011:52
ussssthats all11:52
=== Nermal sighs
usssswhat I know is, I installed 2 HDD in my system11:53
bali30006bjbfjkshjd11:53
ussss1 HDD is Windows, and 1 HDD is Ubuntu which I am using now...11:53
hussamI just rebuild synaptic 0.57 and installed it on Hoary.  But I didn't find and change from 0.55, is there a site for synaptic where I can find a changelog?11:53
ussssWhat i just want is to view the contents of HDD Windows11:53
zerokillsbali30006: lhjsdkhklaf?11:53
zerokillshehe11:53
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hornsby_usss, copy paste in #flood11:53
podgevisor : I think I found it..11:54
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newbieusss i think hoary kernel doesnt support windows so better read ubuntu guide..try cat /proc/filesystem11:54
usssshornsby_,  sorry for that but I guess I dont have to repaste it coz I already done it here...11:54
usssssorry for that....11:54
podgevisor: If you go to Configuration Editor (Applications->System Tools)11:54
hornsby_ussss, that what I say, nest time in #flood11:54
newbieyou will see all the supported filesystem11:54
usssshornsby_, nest ?11:54
hornsby_next :)11:55
podgevisor: Find sound juicer in the apps list..11:55
ussssah u mean next11:55
ussss:)11:55
ussssic11:55
podgevisor : And change the paranoia level..11:55
ussssI have some MP3 files in the other HDD and I want to copy it here in Ubuntu11:56
parabolizeussss try http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs but replace /dev/hda1 with /dev/hdb1 in step 5.11:56
ussssok11:56
visorpodge: yeah, right, i think that was (aside of having dma activated) but do you increase or decrease the value in GConf or what?11:56
ussssim going to read it now.......11:57
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shinuanyone might know why kino fails to load my media? :D11:59
shinuis it a codec problem?11:59
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podgevisor : Decrease the value.. I went from 4 to 3 and got a 2x speed increase..12:00
usssshey guyz, news: I got an error....12:00
ussssmount: special device /dev/hda1 does not exis12:00
lleberg_I want to add a user-account for my sister, how do i do that? ;)12:00
ussssI read this topic: Q: How to mount/unmount Windows partitions (NTFS) manually, and allow all users to read only?12:00
podgevisor : Of course, going to 0 means full speed but no error checking..12:00
ussssand follow12:00
ussssbut I got that error12:00
ussss?12:00
newbieuseradd12:00
visorpodge: ohh i didnt read the detail it shows when you select the key, if you decrease it can contain errors12:00
parabolizeussss did you use /dev/hdb1 in step 5?12:01
visorpodge: hehe you said it before ;)12:01
topylilleberg_: useradd, or System - Admin - Users from the menu12:01
ussssparabolize, the command says in Step 5 is: sudo umount /media/windows/12:01
podgevisor : I will still have a look at goobox..12:01
Whistleradmin@Linux:~ $ sudo apt-get install libqt3c102-mt12:01
WhistlerReading Package Lists... Done12:01
WhistlerBuilding Dependency Tree... Done12:01
WhistlerPackage libqt3c102-mt is not available, but is referred to by another package.12:01
WhistlerThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or12:01
Whistleris only available from another source12:01
WhistlerE: Package libqt3c102-mt has no installation candidate12:01
Whistlerwhat does it mean?12:01
lleberg_newbie, I tried the gnome user and group manager or whatever it's called..12:01
ussssI want just in Step 4, I got an error12:02
topyliWhistler: don't do that12:02
lleberg_newbie, But i couldn't log in to that user..12:02
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Whistlercan anybody help me?12:02
parabolizeussss no it doesn't. are we talking about http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs?12:02
ussssparabolize, I dont want to auto mount it during boot up12:03
parabolizeO12:03
ussssjust this time12:03
newbiesu root, then try passwd "username" of the account.12:03
visorWhistler: whats the problem?12:03
ussssto copy the mp3 files in Windows HDD12:03
ussssto Ubuntu HDD12:03
usssswhich im running now12:03
topyliWhistler: dunno, my apt lists that package just fine12:03
Whistleri am trying to install opera12:03
Whistler2. sudo apt-get install libqt3c102-mt12:03
Whistleri type this12:03
topyliWhistler: you probably don't have the universe/multiverse repositories enabled12:03
podgevisor : Also disable auto-play CDs when inserted..12:04
parabolizehttp://www.ubuntuguide.org/#windows well replace /dev/hda1 with /dev/hdb1 in step 412:04
Whistlerso what shoul i do?12:04
topyliWhistler: add them! :)12:04
Whistlerhow?12:04
Whistler:D12:04
topyliWhistler: look at ubuntuguide.org12:04
ussssI really love to play Mp3s, and I want to try it here in Ubuntu if it will work. If Ubuntu cant do that, Im going to reformat it again and replace w/ Windows XP12:04
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ussssthats what I can do...12:04
ussssIm new to Linux, thats why I need support12:04
Seveasussss, sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.8-mad12:05
topyliWhistler: there, find the "how do i add extra repositories" part12:05
visorpodge: ive made already tests... it doesnt change anything if i uncheck the automount thing... it seems to be an individual issue of some drives12:05
Seveasthat'll give you mp3 support in totem & gstreamer12:05
Mezussss, http://www.ubuntuguide.org explains all about it12:05
glyphussss: read ubuntuguide.org carefully12:05
newbiedon't do that ussss you will never learn linux your whole life12:05
Seveasubuntuguide sucks12:05
Seveasussss: http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/RestrictedFormats12:05
glyphussss: I know how frustrating installing a new system can be.  Perhaps you should go calm down beforehand :)12:05
ussssthat why Im trying....12:05
ussssto learn Linux.... but I cant do this my own..12:06
newbietldp.org is a great linux document source that would help you.12:06
SeveasWhistler, whap happens if you try to apt-get install libqt3c102-mt12:06
podgevisor : I guess some people might have had the CD player running in the background while trying to rip CDs. That would slow things down heaps!12:06
Seveasehatt*12:06
newbiei you could download all it and read it cafefully..12:06
visorWhistler: sometimes i had the same error, because sometimes the servers can go down because of bandwidth excess or network errors or things like that12:06
Seveasnarf, /me wants coffee12:06
zerokillsme too12:06
ussssOne of my friend recommend me Gentoo and Slackware, I dunno about that distros. He said its good for newbies...12:06
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Seveasrofl12:07
zhukovloooooool12:07
Seveasgentoo is awful for newbies12:07
parabolizeussss NOOO!12:07
shinuxD12:07
topylivisor: true. this time though, it's just because the package is in universe12:07
Seveasnewbies should stick to Ubuntu12:07
zhukovno gentoo12:07
visorpodge: :| hahahaha i never though on that, i guess thats why i never had the problem (you know, my logic tells me to close the cd player before using a ripper), go figure12:07
zhukovSeveas, is right12:07
newbiedont try gento if your just a newbhie like me...it will kill you...lol12:07
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ussssso u mean, Ubuntu is only for newbies ?12:07
parabolizegentoo is for smart people with LOTS of time.12:07
zhukovussss, no12:07
usssshow about the professionals12:07
ussss?12:07
zhukovits all the same12:07
Seveasussss, Ubuntu is good for all12:08
zerokillsUbuntu is for smart people12:08
zhukovbut ubuntu is more user friendly out-of-the-box12:08
topyliussss: pros just treat it like debian12:08
ussssso my friend lies to me,12:08
zhukovkinda :)12:08
parabolizezerokills I'm using the wrong distro...12:08
ussssI will kill him...12:08
visorparabolize: and with a nice temperature, and nice weather, and an expensive fan in the processor, and dish-network with TV while everything compiles... :P12:08
zerokillsparabolize me too12:08
ussssno, just kidding...12:08
zerokillshehe12:08
usssstheres a lot of cops here...12:08
ussssim afraid in jail12:09
topyliussss: they just pulled a practical joke on you. they wanted you to fight a slackware install :)12:09
newbiethere are lots of linux for newbhies...knoppix and ubuntu i guesss cause ubuntu was my second distro after i tried knoppix 3.12:09
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zhukovdidnt knew there was a 500 mm fan...12:09
newbie3.712:09
visorussss: what was your problem? i think i forgot, i may help you12:09
parabolizehe needs to mount his window part12:09
Whistler=] 12:10
parabolizeso he can copy his mp3 to linux12:10
Whistleri did that12:10
Whistler=] 12:10
zerokillsif your a newb, dont use h3knix, thats for advanced users12:10
newbieusss have you try mount -t vfat12:10
zhukovubuntuguide.org12:10
ussssits hard...12:10
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parabolizeor LFS. mean nasty stuff12:10
newbieif your geek try linuxfromscratch..lol12:10
usssswhen I go to /dev and made a "ls" command12:10
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ussssu dunno where is the my HDD there...12:11
Seveasussss, for mounting windows partitions, use this little shell script: http://ubuntulinux.nl/~dennis/windows_fstab12:11
lleberg_Why can't i log in to the account i just created?12:11
visorussss: whats the hard disk with the music?12:11
ussss*I12:11
ussssntfs12:11
usssswindows12:11
Seveasussss, that script mounts your windows partitions and adds them to /etc/fstab12:11
visorussss: i mean, is it the primary master, secondary master, primary slave, secondary slave...?12:11
zerokillssnadge: hoary pwnz12:11
newbieussss your window is in ur primary ide or slave?12:11
newbiewindows*12:12
snadgezerokills, i run debian pretty much religiously.. im pretty much only getting hoary, because i've heard it supports madwifi driver out of the box.. and i'm having troubles getting it to work on debian12:12
visorand yes i know there are guides, and i know for sure one can look through documentation to mount drives but that should work out of the box which it doesnt... and i dont understand why12:12
ussssvisor, I installed  2 HDDs in my system. 1 is Ubuntu (which im using now) and another HDD is Windows where my mp3s reside. Im booted now at Ubuntu and I want to copy the mp3 files12:12
ussss:)12:12
Seveasussss, for mounting windows partitions, use this little shell script: http://ubuntulinux.nl/~dennis/windows_fstab12:13
newbieussss your windows is in ur primary ide or slave?12:13
zhukovussss, sudo fdisk -l12:13
ussssnewbie, both are Master12:13
ussssthey used IDE 1 and IDE 212:13
newbiemount hda1 or hda212:13
Seveashmm, /me feels ignored12:13
ussssrunning in Pentium 4 3.2 Ghz and 512 MB12:13
ussssRam12:13
topyliSeveas: nifty :)12:14
Seveastopyli, i know12:14
newbieide1 windows and ide2 linux, right?12:14
Seveasbut sadly no one listens :(12:14
zhukovSeveas, nice12:14
visorussss: i know that already, what i want to know to help you is to know which hard disk is plugged where...12:14
topyliSeveas: that should be added to the ubuntu installer scripts12:14
optikhey, does ssh keep logs?12:14
optikI think i have an attempted break in a12:14
optikand wanna see what they tried12:14
Seveasussss, can you read what i type?12:14
Echyloanyone can advise me a mass rename file? i have 500+ files, which has to be renamed to each something different, but i have the filenames in a list12:15
ussssok12:15
SeveasEchylo, man rename12:15
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sollihello :-)12:15
zhukovussss go to that web page. save it to you disk and run it as sudo12:15
podgeEchylo: Are the filenames consistent?12:15
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Echyloconsistent?12:15
ussssSeveas, i see a program12:15
visorussss: then most probably linux is in tha second hard disk (dev/hdb)12:15
usssswhat program is that... like a worm12:16
ussssi dunno12:16
Seveasussss, save it to disk and run it as root12:16
solliDoes anyone know why the prosesses on my computer uses ALOT memory?12:16
newbieusss ide1 windows and ide2 linux, right?12:16
podgeEchylo: For example, file1.txt, file2.txt, file3.txt .. or are they all random?12:16
visorussss: and windows in the first (/dev/hda)12:16
zhukovussss, do it12:16
Seveasit mounts your windows partitions12:16
Echylowell consistent12:16
ussssok12:16
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sollilike... nautilus is using 117mb12:16
Echylopodge, like 'text1.txt, ..."12:16
podgeEchylo: How do you want to rename them?12:16
Seveassolli, don't mix up shared memory and real memory12:16
topyliussss: it's a script for adding windows-love to your box12:16
ussssim going to save the file as file.sh right ?12:16
Echylotell it are songs12:16
zhukovussss, yes12:16
podgeEchylo: I mean.. text1.txt is to be renamed to what?12:17
ussssthen run it ./file.sh12:17
Seveasussss, yes12:17
ussssok12:17
usssswait...12:17
zhukovthe in the shel typi sudo ./(name of the file).sh12:17
zhukov*type12:17
Seveasor as: sudo ./file.sh12:17
solliI think it's used memory Seveas :/12:17
Seveasotherwise it won't run :)12:17
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topyliussss: it's probably not executable. do "sudo sh ./files.sh"12:17
Echylopodge, the files are (track01.mp3, ...) and have to be renamed to (artist - song.mp3) but I have the titles in a txt12:17
Malsidhello!12:18
zhukovSeveas, the script add those entryes to the etc/fstab?12:18
Seveaszhukov, yes12:18
Seveasif they are not there yet12:18
ussssi saved the file in my /home directory12:18
zhukov:D Very nice script in deed.12:18
Seveasand then executes mount -a12:18
topyliwrites comments and all :)12:18
zhukov:)12:18
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podgeEchylo: Umm.. cut and paste the top line of your titles txt file...12:18
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Echylo:)12:18
Echylo500 times? :)12:19
usssswait... looking the Root Terminal in the menu....12:19
zhukovussss, no need12:19
Echylonot that I know another way12:19
zhukovjust open any terminal12:19
podgeEchylo: You have 500 files.. with the song names in a text file..12:19
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mhzre12:19
Echyloyup12:19
Echylojust the title12:19
lleberg_How do i stop my computer from beeping on startup?12:19
Echyloi'll do it that way then12:19
parabolizeussss sudo sh file.sh12:19
MalsidDoes anyone know of some personal organisation software that either comes with Ubuntu or is easy to aquire?12:20
zhukovlleberg, w812:20
podgeEchylo: How do you relate the filename to the song name?12:20
mhzI have installed firestarter and I have just one doubt12:20
zth__how can i reload my /etc/asound.conf ?12:20
ussssroot@pnpaserver:/home/pnpa # sudo sh windowsfstab12:20
ussssBy default the disks will be writable only by root and12:20
ussssarman (arman)12:20
ussssDo you want to make the disk writable by all users instead? (y/n)12:20
usssswhat i do now ?12:20
podgeEchylo: Is the filename and the song name in the file together?12:20
zhukovussss, n12:21
ussssok\12:21
topyliSeveas: you should add a copyright notice to that script. it's bound to become famous :)12:21
Seveastopyli, i will in the next version12:21
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Echylopodge, no12:21
ussssdone! but nothing happen...like no msg...12:21
Seveaswhen i figure out how to get disk labels12:21
ussssafter N\12:21
Seveasussss, that's ok12:21
mhzhow can I tell FireStarter to enable ONE port for 192.168.181.0/255.255.255.0 ???12:21
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Seveasthey are mounted now12:21
podgeEchylo: So how do you relate a filename to a song name?12:21
Seveasin /mnt/12:21
MalsidI have the memory of a goldfish. And paper gets lost : (12:21
ussssok12:22
usssswait...12:22
ussssill check12:22
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Hajuuheya12:22
zhukovlleberg, when does it beep?12:22
zerokillshi hajuu12:22
mhzSveas, how can I tell FireStarter to enable ONE port for 192.168.181.0/255.255.255.0 ???12:22
bigfoot1easy question: how do i figure out my IP address (i don't have a router)?12:22
topyliMalsid: apt-get install tomboy :)12:22
Echylopodge, don't understand what you mean, the txt files just have the titles of the song in it like = " 01 Real love" ....12:22
jmazaredocan i use ubuntu as a internet server? do i need to get some files or just edit some text?12:22
zhukovbigfoot1, ifconfig12:22
stevegriffboo12:23
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Malsidlleberg: Might be your mobo or your bios so it might not be possible to dissable short of ripping out the system speaker.12:23
zhukovjmazaredo, what do you mean? ftp, http?12:23
jmazaredolike a internet gateway to share internet12:23
ussssi try to make "ls" in /mnt/ nothing ive seen there12:23
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Malsidtopyli: You ever used it?12:23
lleberg_zhukov, just a few seconds after i push the button, before ubuntu startup12:23
topylisure12:23
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zhukovjmazaredo, there is an entry about that in ubuntuguide.org i think12:23
Hajuuuhm... having some trouble with this hard drive... It got all screwed up, so I did a lowlevel format.. and then cfdisk added a partition (primary, 1).. and cfdisk says its of type "linux" but why does mount ask me to specify type?12:23
topyliMalsid: every day12:23
podgeEchylo: Okay.. If you have a filename song1.mp3 .. How do you know what to rename the mp3 file to?12:24
lleberg_and, another sound-related question..12:24
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ilucivhas anyone got point2play and ati?? need some help I have direct rendering in glxinfo but point2play's system test says I don't have it working any ideas12:24
topyliMalsid: now that it's become usable :)12:24
jmazaredoentry? in the forums?12:24
Seveashmm, ussss seems like i forgot one thing12:24
Malsidtopyli, cool I'll check it out now.12:24
mhzSeveas, I have finally NFS running. FireStarter had blocked it, even after I specified to enable for "local". :(12:24
zhukovjmazaredo, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ShareInternetConnection12:24
lleberg_On startup, i can't get any sound working, i have to kill esd to get it running12:24
Echylopodge, "artist - songname.mp3" but the artist is not hard to add, so just "songname.mp3"12:24
Seveasussss, as root type: mount -a12:24
ussssok12:24
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zhukovoh12:24
zhukovlleberg, the beep is not because ubuntu12:25
usssswait, I guess I forgot something....12:25
jmazaredothanks bro :)12:25
zhukovlleberg, but about the no sound problem...what soundcar do you have?12:25
zhukov*soundcard12:25
zhukovhoary, right?12:25
ussssI forgot the Power cable of HDD 212:25
zerokillsiluciv have you enabled the config?12:25
lleberg_zhukov, an integrated on my msi neo4 motherboard12:25
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podgeEchylo: Give me actual examples of the mp3 filenames.. and also some examples of the song names in the text files..12:25
zhukovlleberg, w812:26
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lorzi nid help on yahoopops12:26
lleberg_zhukov, some realtec12:26
podgeEchylo: In a private chat if you want..12:26
zhukovlleberg, the same here12:26
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zhukovbut i dont remember exactly how i managed to solve the problem12:27
lleberg_zhukov, bummer :P12:27
zhukovso far i only have a decode problem with aac in mplayer...12:27
Hajuuanybody?12:27
zhukovlleberg, just give me some secs12:27
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lleberg_aight12:27
mhzanyone using fireStarter???12:28
ilucivzerokills: ?? I think so12:28
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ussssmhz,12:28
ussssme12:28
ussss:)12:28
ussssi used it as firewall and Internet connection sharing12:28
mhzussss, how do you tell it to enable a service for specific range of local IP's?12:29
zhukovlleberg, alsa installed?12:29
zerokillsiluciv: if not, check this site http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto, it helped me to enable my nvidia-glx config12:29
mhzussss, so far I did "IP: 192.168.181.0/255.255.255.0" but still blocks the service12:29
ilucivzerokills: do you know how I can check if it is enabled?12:30
topyliHajuu: perhaps mount doesn't know if it's ext2 or ext3. dunno12:31
ussssmhz, what service ? firewall ?12:31
zhukovlleberg, think i found it12:31
mhzussss, nfs12:31
zhukovlleberg, read this ALL before do anything, ok? :D Worked for me and a lot of folks  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=888212:31
Galettwich client can i use for jabber in GTK ?12:31
no0ticGalett: gaim12:31
mhzussss, I "added a rule" and selected "IP"12:31
Galettbut with gaim i can't create my account12:32
zhukovjust a question... gaim uses msn server to transfer files via msn, but amsn has the same problem?12:32
no0ticGalett: create your account via web & then use it :)12:32
topyliGalett: if you only want jabber, you could try gossip12:32
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Galettok thx12:32
zerokillsiluciv: well, in my case, if it wasnt enabled, my point2play system check came back with problems too12:32
bigfoot1i did ifconfig. which is my ip address: the one in eth0 or ppp0?12:33
zerokillsiluciv: other than that, i dont know how to check if its enabled12:33
ussssmhz, wait... im fixing my problem too......12:33
ussssive got problem mounting my HDD12:33
usssswindows HDD12:33
ussssi mean12:33
zhukovbigfoot1, are you connect by ethernet card or modem?12:33
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pisukehi12:34
Malsidtopyli: Tomboy just crashes on my system it seems : (12:34
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zhukovif you want your outside ip it shoud NOT be the one like 192.x.x.x or 168.x.x.x or 10.x.x.x12:34
bigfoot1zhukov, i have an always on internet connection. so i think this means ethernet.12:34
bigfoot1yes ethernet. coz i use lan cables12:34
bigfoot1.12:34
pisukeIs it possible to baseconfig a deboostraped horay and tell it NOT to pull ubuntu-desktop?12:35
topyliMalsid: it still crashes for me too on occasion. the panel applet code is imperfect12:35
zhukovbigfoot1, so what exactly do you want?12:35
topyliMalsid: on a fresh login, it's stable, but if i respawn the panel, it just dies12:35
bigfoot1zhukov, i'd like to know my pc's ip address.12:35
Malsidtopyli, I mean it doesn't even start. I'll try a reboot. brb.12:35
bigfoot1I'd like to know the information that other computers need to find me.12:35
zhukovlleberg, i've found this one to, in case you wanna take a look http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2656712:35
topyliMalsid: no! a logout will do12:36
topyliman12:36
no0ticbigfoot1:  60.237.183.21812:36
zhukovbigfoot1, give both ips please12:36
no0ticbigfoot1: is your external IP12:36
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bigfoot1no0tic, how'd you figure that out?12:37
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zhukovdns search12:37
bigfoot1what's an external ip? does that mean i have an internal ip, too?12:37
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Fr0Gshaving some problems with ati graphics can someone message me please with some help tips ;)12:37
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no0ticbigfoot1: if you're using xchat, right click on a nick name and choose info -> dns search12:37
bigfoot1zhukov, is it safe to give another person my ip addresses? isn't it like giving out your real home's address?12:37
zhukovbigfoot1, there is an internet ip (external) and if you are connected to networks there is an internal ip adress12:38
bigfoot1i put my ip address into firefox, but nothing happened.12:38
no0ticbigfoot1: staying here you are giving your ip address12:38
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bigfoot1how do i know if i'm connected to networks, zhukov ?+12:38
zhukovbigfoot1, most likely your ip is dynamic wich means it changes, in a maximum period of 36 hours12:38
zhukovbigfoot1, if you ask that you arent :)12:39
Funraiserhow come when I type "w" sometimes I see 3 me?12:39
no0ticbigfoot1: you must enable a http server to connect to your pc via web12:39
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no0ticFunraiser: 1 X user, 1 shell user, if you are doing something else in another shell, other user...12:40
bigfoot1zhukov, what makes you think my ip is dynamic?12:40
zhukovdunno...disconnect and reconnect and see if the ip is the same...12:40
bigfoot1zhukov, please explain what you mean by it not being safe .12:40
lleberg_why can't i find the libesd-alsa0 package.. why is this?12:40
zhukovi never said it wasnt safe...12:41
Funraiserno0tic, oh ok12:41
bigfoot1disconnect from xchat? or restart my computer? or unplug the internet thing connected to my pc?12:41
zhukovlleberg, 64 bits?12:41
lleberg_zhukov, yeah.12:41
zhukovbigfoot1, the thing thing12:41
bigfoot1can people find out a lot about you with only your IP address?12:41
lleberg_(still can't figure out why i bother with it)12:41
Fr0Gshas anyone ever got a ATI Radeon working on ubuntu good12:41
zhukovlleberg, :S12:41
no0ticFr0Gs: me12:41
zhukovlleberg, do bother with it12:41
lleberg_zhukov, i guess12:42
lleberg_zhukov, But how to get it working?12:42
Funraiserno0tic, so if someone is currently using my system (remotely for example) I can see it with "w"?12:42
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zhukov:) i started with gentoo wondering what ls was for...and after 72 hours ive made it work :D never give up :)12:42
no0ticFunraiser: yes12:42
Funraisergood12:42
Funraiserthanks12:42
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radixwas the macromedia flash plugin removed from multiverse somewhat recently?12:43
zhukovdid you saw my second link? lleberg i do know there are some problems with that package and 64 bits...12:43
bigfoot1can people find out a lot about you with only your IP address?12:43
zhukovi think that is reviewed in the links12:43
Malsidtopyli, Can't stat it up get an unhandled exception:  DBus.DBusException: No reply within specified time.12:43
Funraiserno0tic, where is the log to check if someone connected?12:43
Malsidstart*12:43
zhukovbigfoot1, in windows with no firewall they can12:44
lleberg_zhukov, i didn't..12:44
bigfoot1what can they find out in the windows case? what about for us ubuntu/linux folks?12:44
zhukovhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2656712:44
zhukovbigfoot1, dont worry you are safe in ubuntu unless you are the big boss of kgb or cia or something like that :D12:45
lleberg_I've got to eat something..12:46
bigfoot1what about for privacy?12:46
zhukovbigfoot1, but i think this is not the right place for those questions...you can     sudo apt-get install amule      and search in there for network book...they can teach you a lot more than i12:46
pmjdebruijnis there anywhere where I can get the separated patches for the Ubuntu kernel?12:47
spektrUsing the aptitude curses interface I can mark a package "upgradable", i.e. aptitude will no longer "hold" it; is there a way to do this using only the command-line? (uninstalling/installing the package would work, but is there a way to do it without uninstalling?)12:47
bigfoot1does amule have a website? is it amule.org12:47
bigfoot1?12:47
zhukovlleberg, me too...almost 20 hours with just a muffin12:47
pmjdebruijnoh wait, the patch contains patches... :s12:48
zhukovbigfoot1, it google.com12:48
topyliMalsid: hrm. could be a mono bug too. i have a newer mono and tomboy12:48
bigfoot1zhukov, i googled it. wasn't sure which i should look at.12:48
bigfoot1are you referring to "the all-platform eMule p2p client", zhukov ?12:48
zhukovbigfoot1, amule perhaps?... :D just install it and run it12:48
zhukovyes12:48
scott_I need help with my sound audigy zs 2 soundcard, it doesn't wokr12:49
zerokillsomg omg omg12:49
zerokills50 minutes left of download, started at 360 minutes12:49
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parabolizezerokills what game?12:50
scott_crimsun: when I do  amixer sset 'Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack' on it says amixer: Unable to find simple control 'Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack',012:50
zhukovjust a kestion...anyone managed to play divx with aac in mplayer?12:50
zhukov???12:50
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zerokillsparabolize: i couldnt get Half-Life 2 to install with p2p, so i had to download all the files thru steam.. almost done :)12:50
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topyliMalsid: tee-hee. i removed tomboy and tried to reload it. kept dying. i respawned my panel and it took gaim with it too :)12:51
zhukovHalf-Life 2 is competing for the "worst way to spend 55 euros"...12:51
topyliMalsid: logged out, and everything was cool on login again12:52
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zerokillszhukov: Half-Life 2 is worth it because it comes with Counter Strike: Source12:52
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radixthis is bizarre12:53
radixmaybe it's just my mirror that doesn't have flashplugin-nonfree12:53
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zhukovzerokills, isnt worth in my pc (grpahics card 128mb - amd 2600+ overlock@ 3200+ - 768 mb ram)12:54
radixis anyone here running hoary and successfully installed flashplugin-nonfree?12:54
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radixpackages.ubuntu.com says it exists, but I can't for the life of me find it with apt or synaptic12:55
bigfoot1zhukov, you still interested in knowing the 2 ip addresses12:55
bigfoot1?12:55
zhukovradix, me12:55
zhukovradix, the nonfree? why do you want that one?12:56
zhukovbigfoot1, nop12:56
Seveasradix, amd64?12:57
radixzhukov: because I want to see flash12:57
radixSeveas: yeah!12:57
radixI hadn't thought that that might be relevant.12:57
Seveasradix, there is no flash for amd12:57
scott_Heres my situation: I have two 160 gig hard drives, one is 100 gigs linux 60 gigs windows. My second hard drive just stores data. My fdisk is listed here:http://pastebin.ca/14213. How do I mount the drives?12:57
zhukovwahts wrong with flashplayer-mozilla?12:57
radixSeveas: bloody hell. wouldn't the 32bit version work?12:57
Seveasmacromedia is ignoring linux, so support sucks and there is nothing for amd6412:57
Seveasradix, only in a 32 bit chroot12:57
radixcrappy12:57
radixzhukov: I don't have that package12:58
zhukovscott_, http://ubuntulinux.nl/~dennis/windows_fstab12:58
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scott_zhukov:what do I do whith that?12:59
zhukovscott_, save it to the disk as (name).sh and then run it in a shell as sudo ./name.sh12:59
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Seveassudo sh name.sh12:59
zhukovradix, might be crapy but works flawless for me12:59
radixzhukov: I don't have *access* to that package12:59
radixjust like flashplugin-nonfree12:59
Seveaszhukov, and mozilla will save it as windows_fstab automatically12:59
radixI wasn't responding to you with "Crappy", I was responding to Seveas.01:00
zhukovby the way...is it just me or firefox closes itself sometimes?01:00
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zhukovradix, sorry then01:00
radixapt-cache search flashplayer-mozilla -> nothing01:00
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zhukovsorry sorry! :P01:01
zhukovnew amule record 210 KB :)01:01
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scott_ zhukov: it says command now found01:02
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scott_*not01:02
digitaluxhello everybody01:02
digitaluxI have a quick question01:02
zhukovscott_, were?01:02
digitaluxI'm using the latest ubuntu on my laptop (Acer aspire 1680)01:02
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scott_zhukov:in terminal01:03
digitaluxbut, everything is working, except the battery status01:03
scott_zhukov: I named the file mount.sh and it is located in home01:03
zhukovscott_, what are you typing?01:03
digitaluxhow can I see the battery status?01:03
zhukovdigitalux, the status or timeleft?01:03
digitaluxis there a kernel patch somewhere?01:03
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Seveasscott_, sudo sh mount.sh01:03
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digitaluxthe gnome applet doesn't find the battery ;-)01:03
zhukovsudo ./mount.sh01:03
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HaRDaWaYhello01:03
zhukovdigitalux, oh01:03
zhukovdunno then01:04
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Seveaszhukov, that'll only work if it is executable...01:04
HaRDaWaYanybody have problems with "starting hotplug subsystem" when hoary boots? my laptop freeze in these moment.01:04
MattteDoes anyone know how to stop network interfaces to from loading automaticly when you start the system?01:04
HaRDaWaY:|01:04
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zhukovSeveas, thanks :)01:04
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SeveasMattte, in /etc/network/interfaces remove the lines that say: auto eth001:05
digitaluxMattte, destroy the interfaces ;-)01:05
digitalux:-)01:05
Seveasor auto whatever01:05
zhukovMattte, ill higlhy unadvise you to do that01:05
zhukovin my laptop if i do that gnome wont start sometimes01:05
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fourahasalut01:06
zhukovyou can easily bipass that with ctrl+c01:06
HaRDaWaYzhukov is to me ?01:06
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lleberg_I still need to kill ESD to get my sound from xmms working :(01:06
Matttezhukov, I want to start them manually because for some reason it takes a very long time to configure wireless network during startup, but very fast if I do it manually01:06
HaRDaWaYah ok01:06
decohi01:06
Seveaslleberg, change the xmms output plugin to esound then...01:06
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MalsidAnyone use any personal organiser software apart from tomboy?01:07
HaRDaWaYi have toshiba satellite m40-145 (pci-e), and..in "starting hotplug subsystem"...system freeze. :|01:07
zerokillslleberg_ you know the command to kill esd?01:07
decois there something ligher graphical interface for ubuntu, since this gnome is kinda laggy with this crappy computer?01:07
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lleberg_zerokills, Yeah, but i shouldn't have to01:07
zhukovMattte, look, whrn they start configuring netwok interfaces you can press ctrl+c and solve it...but go ahead...maybe it just in my case :) anyway, if that happens you'll know why and can solve it :)01:07
scott_zhukov: thank you01:07
mjrdeco, xfce4 might be worth a shot01:07
lleberg_Seveas, How?01:07
decomjr: i can download it with apt-get?01:07
Matttezhukov, thanks a lot!!!01:07
zhukovscott_, no prob01:07
zhukovMattte, no prob :)01:08
zerokillslleberg_, im not familiar with xmms, sorry01:08
Seveaslleberg_, open the xmms preferences with <ctrl> p, go to plugins, go to output and select esd/esound01:08
digitaluxwhat I do for a init script from loading is simply chmod 000 them :-)01:08
digitaluxlol01:08
MalsidI couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery without electronic aid.01:09
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lleberg_Seveas, ii started esd again, and it seems to work. :)01:09
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radixhrm, and this free flash player (libflash-mozplugin) doesn't work on any flash I can find either :(01:10
lleberg_Seveas, Thanks!01:10
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MalsidI'm sure there must be some sort of software out there with schedules and todo lists and whatnots...01:10
HaRDaWaYmmm i have to disable hotplug to enter y my ubuntu hoary system..ufff!!01:11
zhukovwell gotta make the lunch01:11
HaRDaWaY*in01:11
zhukovHaRDaWaY, what?01:11
Malsidradix, if it's any consolation you're really not missing much.01:11
HaRDaWaYzhukov yes, i have toshiba satellite m40-145 (pci-express)..and..ubuntu freeze, in boot, when "starting hotplug subsystem"01:11
zth__how can i reload my /etc/asound.conf ?01:11
HaRDaWaY:|01:11
radixMalsid: umm, yes I am :)01:11
radixthere are a number of pretty important sites to me that use flash01:12
zhukovoh another one :)01:12
zhukovtry this01:12
decozth__: try killall esd01:12
zhukovboot in safe mode or rescue or whatever...the second ubuntu :D01:12
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zhukovsudo gedit /grub/menu.lst i thik01:12
decozth__: or what ever you soundsystem is01:12
HaRDaWaYzhukov aha01:13
HaRDaWaYand..then?01:13
zhukovand add this pci=noacpi to the first kernrl01:13
HaRDaWaYahh ok, thanks01:13
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zhukovHaRDaWaY, reboot and check01:13
zhukovif it doesnt work just remove it01:13
HaRDaWaYok, thanks zhukov im going to try it01:13
zhukovHaRDaWaY, you know were to add it, right?01:13
HaRDaWaYyes01:14
HaRDaWaYi know01:14
zhukov:)01:14
HaRDaWaYi have add yesterday something as noapic and nolapic01:14
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HaRDaWaYbut..i dont put pci= before01:14
zhukov?01:15
HaRDaWaYsorry for my english01:15
zhukovit isnt needed?01:15
mhzWhat do I need to specify in order to let FireStarter accpet NFS from certain range of local IP's???01:15
HaRDaWaYok, zhukov im going to try it01:15
zhukovi thought it was... :P well sorry then01:15
jmazaredoif i want to change the ownership of a directory to root will "chown root:root FOLDER" will sufice?01:15
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radixjmazaredo: for that directly only; if you want to recurse to the files and so forth it contains, add -R01:15
jmazaredowill it affect mailing?01:16
radixmailing?01:16
zhukovand v to01:16
jmazaredoyup01:16
zhukov-Rv so you can see whats going on :)01:16
radixI have no idea what you're talking about. you didn't say anything about mail...01:16
jmazaredobecause recently I added an account to my system i chowned the some directory to get it accessed by that user then somehow it can't receive mail but it can send mail. :)01:17
radixwhat directory?01:18
jmazaredohtml01:18
radixhtml where?01:18
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jmazaredoin apache default like the www/html01:18
jmazaredois there something to do with chowning?01:19
radixok, that shouldn't affect your mail setup. But maybe you accidentally chowned something else, like the user's spool file.01:19
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jmazaredoi added a group named www and add a webmaster account under it01:20
jmazaredothen chowned the html directory01:20
jmazaredoweird01:20
jmazaredohehe01:20
jmazaredobut all account that i create in " adduser NAME " can send and retrieve mail01:21
jmazaredojust that one01:21
jmazaredo;] 01:21
zhukovshes big, shes black and she pump a lot of air she a 500mm fan shes a 500mm fan...lalalalalalala  musical moment of the day...01:23
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zhukovits a she :D01:24
zerokillsi have one of the hugest fans on my cpu, its as loud as my vacuum cleaner01:24
zhukovin english you just treat a fan sexless...as the printers01:24
zhukovin portuguese printer is a female...01:25
pmjdebruijnit's also kinda pointless to brag about a noisy fan ... :p01:25
zerokillslol01:25
zhukov:)01:25
zerokillshey, but my cpu stays cool01:25
radixzhukov: we still say that computers are female, though ;)01:26
zhukovmine too...and silent :) and the room is cool to :D01:26
radixjust like cars ;)01:26
pmjdebruijnmy fans are near silent, and stuff keeps cool to... everything under 50 degrees while under load01:26
zhukovtrue?01:26
zhukovradix, why female?01:26
pmjdebruijnradix: hey, whatever floats your boat...01:26
radixzhukov: it's probably a sexual thing ;)01:27
zhukovin here they're male :(01:27
zhukovi want a female pc!!01:27
radixhehe01:27
zhukovfrom now on my pcs are all female01:27
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dwinghi01:28
zerokillshola01:28
zhukovmouse will be rata, keyboar will be teclada, screen will be ecrana, printer will continue impressora01:28
zhukovthats it :D surrounded :)01:28
dwingis it possible to copy a directory without any hidden subdirectories?01:28
radixhaha01:28
decoyeah, this xfce is much better than gnome with this slow computer, thanks mjr01:29
podgepmjdebruijn: What CPU are you running?01:30
pmjdebruijnpodge: AMD Athlon XP 2200+01:30
Ben_BabcockThis tapping thing is annoying . . . how do I turn off the "tap-to-click" feature of my touchpad in Ubuntu?01:30
podgepmjdebruijn: What CPU fan?01:30
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mhzWhat do I need to specify in order to let FireStarter accpet NFS from certain range of local IP's???01:31
pmjdebruijnpodge: GlacialTech SilentBreeze 462 III, and a GlacialTech 80x80 casefan01:31
podgepmjdebruijn: I need some high volume fans on my AMD 2600.. it is a bit whiney..01:31
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jmazaredowhats the command for deleting a file? hehe i have setuped web/mail/internet but i can delete a file :)01:32
pmjdebruijnand of course a dual fan power supply01:32
madsenWeird... My firefox just started exiting with status 0 when run... It's like it doesn't even try to start up.01:32
radixmadsen: does "ifconfig" show that your lo interface is up?01:32
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podgemadsen: Are you running firefox from a terminal window?01:33
madsenradix: Yup, lo is up.01:33
madsenpodge: Yup01:33
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podgemadsen: Installed any plugins or extensions recently?01:34
madsenstrace firefox doesn't really reveal anything useful.01:34
zhukovdamn i just spilled 1 litre of juice on top of me01:34
madsenpodge: Yeah, but it ran fine for a while. Untill X crashed.01:34
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solliDoes anybody know about a good mp3-player (HDD) which works as a mountable hdd on linux?01:34
Funraiserzhukov, beer juice?01:35
podgemadsen: Was it a plugin or an extension?01:35
madsenpodge: I had to restart firefox to finish the extension install and it came up just fine afterwards.01:35
madsenpodge: extension.01:35
podgemadsen: yep..01:35
zhukovFunraiser, apple and lichia juice01:35
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zhukovdamnit01:35
Funraiserzhukov, too bad01:35
madsenpodge: I installed like 6 extensions...01:35
zerokillslichia?01:35
zhukovsudo apt-get remove all_this_juicy_mess01:35
madsenpodge: But I think I've started firefox 8 times since then --- no problems.01:36
podgemadsen: Try running the profile manager.. firefox -ProfileManager01:36
zhukovcommand not found?? what do you mean with command not found?01:36
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Funraisersudo rm -rf juice01:36
podgemadsen: Maybe something stuffed with the default profile..01:36
Maxhow are you doing guys.01:36
zerokillssudo apt-get install dry-towel01:36
zhukovoh that worked :D01:36
madsenHmm, the profileManager comes up fine. :)01:36
zerokillshiya max01:37
podgemadsen: Create a new profile..01:37
Funraiserlol01:37
podgemadsen: And run with that..01:37
zhukovnice towel :D01:37
Maxwhen the next release of ubuntu is due?01:37
zerokillshehe01:37
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mjrMax, October01:37
madsenpodge: I'm trying, but nothing happens. :(01:37
Maxzerokills, hello are you today01:37
Maxmjr, what will be special there?01:37
podgemadsen: So you can't even create a new profile?01:37
Maxhow can i download kubuntu???01:38
zerokillsmax, good yourself?01:38
decoi have some hauppauges capture card or something like that, what software would be best to download with apt-get?01:38
madsenpodge: Yeah, I can, but I can't run ff with it.01:38
Maxzerokills, i am fine.. thank you01:38
mjrMax, well, special and special... There'll be the new Gnome, and I hear that Mono and Beagle will make an appearance01:38
zerokillsguys, 30 seconds left of download.. omg omg omg01:38
podgemadsen: firefox -P profile01:38
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Maxmjr, thats cool01:38
podgemadsen: Doesn't work?01:38
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Maxzerokills, what are you downloading?01:39
Funraiserdeco, xawview works fine on mine01:39
Maxmjr, how can i download kubuntu..?01:39
madsenpodge: Nope, it just hangs.01:39
Funraiserdeco, installed by default01:39
Maxis it worth?01:39
zerokillsmax: Half-Life 201:39
zerokillsbrb01:39
Maxzerokills, thats cool01:39
decoFunraiser: ok tnx01:39
Maxzerokills, from where are you downloading it?01:39
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zerokillsthru steam01:40
podgemadsen: Hmm... that hurts bad..01:40
Funraiserdeco, look on applications/debian/etc...somewhere over there01:40
madsenpodge: Indeed...01:40
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madsenpodge: I tried debugging a little with strace, but it doesn't say anything unusual.01:40
decoFunraiser: ain't there01:40
podgemadsen: Time to reinstall or delete your .mozilla directory..01:40
Funraiserdeco, do u see the debian apps?01:40
decoFunraiser: not at all01:40
Funraiserthe debian directory01:40
Funraiser?01:40
Maxdoes anyone using kubuntu??01:40
Funraiserdeco, is it the ubuntu english?01:41
decoFunraiser: and apt-get won't found it either01:41
madsenpodge: Well, my .mozilla dir ain't going nowhere... So perhaps an FF reinstall...01:41
decoFunraiser: yeah?01:41
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podgemadsen: Maybe only delete the /home/madsen/.mozilla/firefox directory..01:41
bigfoot1anybody interested in a personality hack?01:41
decoFunraiser: im using xfce4 right now, but that doesn't matter right?01:41
Funraiserdeco, don't know01:42
Maxanyone??01:42
bigfoot1you interested, max?01:42
decoit should start from terminal anyways...01:42
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madsenpodge: Yeah, that's the one I want to keep. :) Well, perhaps copy the firefox-dir to a different location and then try replacing the pref-files one by one and see which one b0rks it.01:42
Maxbigfoot1, yes01:42
Funraiseranyway xawview works with happauge tv cards01:42
decoFunraiser: ok, maybe google tells01:42
Funraiserwell mine works01:42
MaxFunraiser, my tv card does not work in linux.. i am so sad :(01:43
bigfoot1okay, hold on. but while i'm gone (few seconds), tell me what you think this personality hack is. 8-)01:43
decoFunraiser: can you open it from the terminal usin xawview?01:43
Mezmine works great in ubuntu :D01:43
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Mezusing tvtim01:43
Meztvtime *01:43
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madsenpodge: But I doubt it's anything with my profile since I can't create a new one...01:43
Funraiserdeco, well i'm on my laptop right now, the tv card is on the desktop,can't tell u from here, but i 'm pretty sure i can open it from the terminal01:43
decoMez: can you record as well with that?01:43
FunraiserMax,  did u try xawview?01:44
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decoFunraiser: yeah, im just wondering is the command same as the program name01:44
zerokillsbrb, rebooting01:44
Fr0Gshow can i make a ntfs drive writeable not just readonly01:44
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MaxFunraiser, the fact is that my card doesnot support linux.. so no point trying01:44
bigfoot1Okay, the personality hack is here http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4579681.stm01:44
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bigfoot1max, how come the non-response 8-)01:45
bigfoot1?01:45
FunraiserMax, do u know the chipset? bt878?01:45
Maxbigfoot1, about what01:45
SeveasFr0Gs, you can't...01:45
madsenpodge: Hmm, removing the .mozilla/firefox dir didn't do anything... It still just hangs... (Instead of returning 0 as it did with the original profile.)01:45
Seveasntfs write support is not available01:45
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bigfoot1max, about the personality hack. i was asking you what you think it was?01:45
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Maxbigfoot1, oh i am sorry01:45
zhukovSeveas, you can...but you may destroy data01:46
Seveaszhukov, i know, captive...01:46
bigfoot1anyway, the link's up there.01:46
Seveasbut it's too difficult & dangerous01:46
Maxbigfoot1, okay let me check01:46
LinforcerHey can anyone tell me where I can set different programs to open on specific desktops?01:46
zhukovDAMN IT FOR (/"&"()/&"()/&!"$ OUT LOUD! why does firefox keep crashing!!01:46
zhukov???01:46
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zhukovdowngrading right NOW!01:47
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Maxbigfoot1, hmm i need to read it01:47
Maxso anyone using kubuntu???01:47
bigfoot1not I, max.01:47
FunraiserMax, i tried01:47
MaxFunraiser, so how is it??01:47
MaxFunraiser, worth trying?01:48
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FunraiserMax, it kinda fu**** my ubuntu gnome install but maybe it's my fault01:48
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zhukovMax, its worthless in my opinion01:48
MaxFunraiser, gow did you installed it?01:48
Maxzhukov, coz its more like xp??? lol :D01:49
podgemadsen: So I guess a reinstall is in order.. :(01:49
ussssshinu, ?01:49
FunraiserMax, i did an apt-get install i believe01:49
ussssu there ?01:49
zhukovMax, I hate KDE01:49
MaxFunraiser, u installed KDE??01:49
LinforcerFunraiser: yeah that'll mess it up01:49
podgezhukov: hate? :)01:49
zhukovhate01:49
FunraiserMax, well kubuntu is kde01:49
zhukovcompletly01:49
LinforcerFunraiser: I tried that with Warty back in the day01:49
zhukovmore than windows01:49
madsenpodge: Yup, and that did the job. Now it even works again with my old profile and settings. :)01:50
zhukova lot more01:50
bigfoot1anybody a mac-lover?01:50
podgezhukov: KDE is configurable.. unlike windows..01:50
Firetechhmm, how do I start udev with correct permissions? "sudo /etc/init.d/udev start" sets wrong group on some devices (as tty), which causes some programs to stop working...01:50
MaxFunraiser, well i was asking only kde or the whole distro01:50
madsenpodge: Thanks for your time. :)01:50
podgemadsen: Strange..01:50
zhukovpodge, gnome rules01:50
LinforcerFunraiser: yeah but thuy made  a different thinger mfor it BECAUSE of the problems of installing Gnome and KDE together01:50
podgemadsen: So you still have the extensions etc?01:50
Maxzhukov, i have no problem with anything.. right now i am using xfce401:50
podgezhukov: I run gnome everywhere.. minimalist interface..01:50
FunraiserMax, from ubuntu gnome i did apt-get install kubuntu i think01:50
zhukov:01:50
LinforcerFunraiser: therefore installing KDE under Ubuntu != Kubuntu01:50
zhukov:01:50
podgezhukov: KDE is good for Windows cronies.. :)01:50
zhukovdamn keyboard ;MMNHOHmkjmnjm01:51
zhukov:)01:51
MaxFunraiser, okay..01:51
madsenpodge: yup!01:51
zhukovah!01:51
LinforcerHmm well I see one upside to KDE01:51
madsenpodge: But yeah, indeed odd...01:51
Maxzhukov, cool down dude01:51
zhukovpodge, cronies?01:51
FunraiserLinforcer, well someone told me it was safe to install Kubuntu form ubuntu so i did it01:51
podgemadsen: I have trouble understanding how the system firefox install was corrupted...01:51
FunraiserLinforcer, but funny stuff happened since01:51
Maxhe means cousines01:51
bigfoot1can i share a great article i found? From PC World, 30 Things You Didn't Know You Could Do on the Internet. http://www.pcworld.com/resource/printable/article/0,aid,120784,00.asp Do you know of "other things you didn't know could be done on the internet"01:51
LinforcerFunraiser: maybe it is supposed to be in Hoary01:51
zhukovMax, this keyboard only works with some punches01:51
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madsenpodge: Yeah, me too.01:52
bigfoot1let me know what you think of the article.01:52
LinforcerFunraiser: I just remember in Warty it did weeeeird things with sound01:52
Maxzhukov, then u must have good meals..lol01:52
FunraiserLinforcer, like kde windows opening in gnome...:-(01:52
podgezhukov: http://www.google.com.au/search?q=define+cronies&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial01:52
madsenpodge: It might have something to do with my X crashing. (That's when it stopped working.)01:52
Linforcerheh01:52
Linforceranyway... The only thing about Kd I like is Konqueror01:52
madsenpodge: I'm playing with the composite extension and stuff and it _is_ pretty unstable after all...01:52
Linforcerminus the web abilities that is01:52
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Maxokay zhukov tell me why do u hate KDE?01:52
FunraiserI had konqueror opening without asking in ubuntu01:53
podgemadsen: Doing your own extension work?01:53
madsenLinforcer: KWord is alright too.01:53
Linforcerit's imo a much better file browser than nautilus01:53
zhukovnow i have no firefox...01:53
madsenpodge: No, just messing around with drop-shadows in Xorg and stuff.01:53
podgemadsen: Cool.. looks good no doubt (when it is running)..01:53
Maxwhat is the downloading size of KDE???01:53
LinforcerI'm planning on using fluxbox once I've made my switch to gentoo anyway01:53
podgemadsen: any screenshots?01:54
zhukovMax, i dunno...it seems all so...fragile. So like all is going down if I sneeze01:54
madsenpodge: It runs alright here, but it is a bit unstable.01:54
madsenpodge: I can make you one, just a sec.01:54
FunraiserMax, i think you should at least try KDE, personnaly i prefer gnome, KDE is too MS-windows-like to me01:54
zhukovand i dont like crystal.and i hate the bar01:54
zhukovyes01:54
Seveaszhukov, haaatchooooo!01:54
LinforcerFunraiser: what about KDE is like Windows?01:54
zhukov:D01:54
MaxFunraiser, yeah thats waht its aim was01:54
Seveasand it;s broken :)01:54
zhukovgnome is rock-solid01:55
zhukovI love this word :)01:55
FunraiserLinforcer, i dunno know, a general feeling01:55
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podgekde is light years ahead of windows..01:55
Linforcerhmm01:55
zhukovthats why came to linux01:55
MaxFunraiser, what is the size of KDE?01:55
Funraiserno idea01:55
podgepurely because it is so configurable..01:55
zhukovand i came across ubuntu because o gdesklets :D01:55
zhukov*of01:55
podgezhukov: Desklets are cool..01:56
Maxi love ubuntu01:56
Funraiserpodge, when they work01:56
LinforcerMax:  I get 422 MB01:56
podgeFunraiser: yep..01:56
zhukovright after warty came out, i installed hoary :D I was using suse, but suse is mainly kde, and i wanted the gdesklets bar :) MacOs freak back then...01:56
LinforcerMax:  152 MB download01:56
podgeFunraiser: I do remember them being a bit unstable..01:56
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Maxzhukov, why do u use desklets?01:56
zhukovso i googled gnome based distro01:56
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zhukovand ubuntu came along :D01:56
Funraiserthe google mail desklet works at least01:57
zhukovMax, i use them only only on my laptop for mail and news...and to see the free space of / and /home01:57
Maxzhukov, okay01:57
Linforcerzhukov: I used SuSE first too... I hate it. but if you could get Novell Linux Desktop which basically is SuSE with Gnome and a Novell theme01:58
FunraiserMax, gdesklets make your desktop look really cool have a look (and it's useful too) http://www.lynucs.org/?gdesklets01:58
Maxtoday i got free cds of ubuntu... 5 months after i ordered...lol01:58
Maxi already downloaded 2 releases01:58
Maxlol01:58
Funraiserlol01:58
Maxbut i am happy01:58
Funraiserstill waiting for mine01:58
podgeMax : They were delivered freepost.. :)01:58
Linforcermy ubuntu with desklets: http://img275.echo.cx/img275/174/screenshot2yh.png01:58
pmjdebruijngot Hoary yesterday :)01:58
zhukovoh, and what about that proggy to use your gmail account as a drive?01:58
MaxFunraiser, where are you from?01:58
FunraiserFrance why01:59
FunraiserMax, did u look at the screenshots?01:59
LinforcerLa France!01:59
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LinforcerxD01:59
podgeLinforcer: The post it notes are good..01:59
zhukovfirefox isnt working... :S01:59
MaxFunraiser, yes i did02:00
podgemadsen: How is your screenshot going?02:00
Linforcerpodge: very unfunctional this one though the gnome post its  can do much more... but this one is prettier02:00
rekahmmm, anyone know how to set xpdf's zoom level to fit the whole page on load-time?  i tried -z="page", -z='page' and -z=page and it none of them seem to work.02:00
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Maxlinux is cool... very much customizable02:01
podgeLinforcer: I remember that it was difficult to move the desklets around once placed on the desktop.. is that still a problem?02:01
zhukov200 or 400 :D02:01
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zhukovpodge, i never had that problem02:01
podgeLinforcer: How about a PSP on your list?02:01
Linforcerpodge: not at all rightclick any and say "move desklet"02:01
Linforcerpodge: naaaah02:01
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LinforcerI really should change hthe amount of money >.>02:02
LinforcerI only need about 38002:02
podgezhukov: Linforcer: I tried them a while back so they have probably improved heaps!02:02
MaxLinforcer, u better...lol02:02
podgeLinforcer: You also need to add a PS3.. :)02:02
Linforcerhaha02:02
Linforcermy cube is all I need for now02:02
FunraiserMax, with gdesklets u could for example have an RSS feed to the desktop or check if u have a new email on a tiny window02:03
podgeLinforcer: Not many details on the Nintendo Revolution..02:03
LinforcerI bought paper mario for it and for days lator I finished it and it had 60 hrs on the clock02:03
MaxFunraiser, how did u make the bottom icon colorful i dont know how to do that02:03
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Linforcerpodge: but apparently (though these are always just rumours) it would lot you buy old nes/snes/n64 games off the web02:04
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podgeLinforcer: I bought some old Amiga games off ebay the other day..02:04
Linforceramiga >.< that's far back02:05
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FunraiserMax, bottom...icon...(?)02:05
zhukovhttp://zhukov.com.sapo.pt/Screenshot.png and http://zhukov.com.sapo.pt/Screenshot2.png     <--- back in the Suse days02:05
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MaxFunraiser, yes on the bottom half of ur screen02:05
Linforcerzhukov: macish02:06
FunraiserMax, are u using xchat?02:06
podgeLinforcer: Yep.. but I can't deny my past.. :)02:06
MaxFunraiser, yes02:06
zhukovthis is my server right now :  http://zhukov.com.sapo.pt/CapturaEcra.png02:06
MaxFunraiser, why did u ask that>02:06
zhukovi've solves my mac paranoia with ubuntu02:06
FunraiserMax, i didn't show u my screen...02:06
Funraiser?02:06
Rochazhukov, is that your desktop?02:07
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zhukovthe last one02:07
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zhukovhttp://zhukov.com.sapo.pt/CapturaEcra.png02:07
Rochazhukov, icon theme very ugly02:07
MaxFunraiser, how do i start desklet?02:07
Linforcerzhukov: what language is that >.>02:07
zhukovportuges02:07
Rochazhukov, at least the folder icons, very ugly02:07
zhukov*portuguese02:07
madsenpodge: http://lillesvin.net/stuff/ubuntu_shadows.png02:07
zhukovi love mac icons :)02:07
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FunraiserMax, follow http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#gdesklets02:07
Maxi am so sorry it was Linforcer's02:07
madsenpodge: Sorry about the delay, my X crashed again (probably because of the composite ext.)02:07
Linforcerzhukov:  more importantly, who's the chick02:08
MaxFunraiser, i have desklets installed02:08
LinforcerMax: you don't like my icons?02:08
zhukovmy girlfriend :)02:08
MaxLinforcer, i did02:08
Linforcerzhukov: sweeetttt02:08
FunraiserMax, applications, accessories, gdesklets02:08
Maxi just wanted to know how u made them colorful. Linforcer02:09
LinforcerMax: ah, kay... "Gartoon" theme :P02:09
podgemadsen: Nice!!02:09
madsenpodge: :)02:09
LinforcerMax: got em off Gnome art ;)02:09
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podgemadsen: Only problem is the gnome panels look so plain compared to the window toolbars..02:09
Linforcerzhukov: can't you show me one of the pics on yer desktop instead of the screenie? :P02:10
madsenpodge: Yeah, but the menu and the clock overlays the bg image, so it's really hard to make it look better.02:10
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zhukovLinforcer, dont push it :P02:10
MaxLinforcer, cool02:10
Linforcerzhukov: aaaaw :(02:10
podgemadsen: So are you a tester or are you just interested in crashing every 15 minutes? :)02:11
MaxFunraiser, do i need to install desklet-data?02:11
madsenpodge: the latter. :)02:11
zhukovNOIOOOO02:11
zhukovDONT02:11
FunraiserMax, yes it's best to follow the guide02:11
zhukovit has problems02:11
LinforcerNOOOOO INDEED02:11
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madsenpodge: Just had to try it out. I've spent sooo long on Debian missing such options.02:11
MaxFunraiser,  thankx i will02:11
Linforcerthe data messes in up02:11
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Linforcersince the new versions use "controls" rather tha sensors02:12
Linforceror was that ermmmm02:12
Linforcerdisplays rather than sensors02:12
LinforcerI think the former02:12
podgemadsen: Do any other window managers have that feature?02:12
LinforcerHas anyone tried aDesklets?02:13
Funraisernope02:13
MaxFunraiser, i am using xfce not GNOME02:13
Funraiseroh02:13
Linforcerxfce eeew\02:13
madsenpodge: Well, the feature is implemented in Xorg and the WMs can utilize it... So basically all WMs have it...02:13
Linforcerxffm is an abomonation02:13
FunraiserMax, dunno then if it's the same or not02:13
MaxLinforcer, did u say xfce is not good..02:14
LinforcerMax: I don't have good experiences with it, no02:14
podgemadsen: Nice.. seems like the Xorg guys are really firing up..02:14
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MaxLinforcer, well i am trying it.. using from last 3 days02:14
LinforcerMax:  does it have a mini commander?02:15
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madsenpodge: Yeah. Alpha transparency is also supported now, though I don't know how to use it. Hehe.02:15
Maxso i dont have enough experience to comment on it..02:15
Maxbut its faster02:15
Linforcerbecause at the friend where I used it it didn't anywhere02:15
Linforceralso xffm is awful02:15
madsenpodge: In reasonably short time translucent menus and good drop shadows should be a reality in Linux.02:16
podgemadsen: What country are you from?02:16
zhukovmadsen, they will02:16
madsenpodge: Denmark, why?02:16
zhukovbrezzy will have them02:16
madsenzhukov: :)02:16
podgemadsen: It's not filled out in your profile.. :)02:16
madsenpodge: What profile?02:16
Linforcerwill breezy also have a splash screen for grub?02:16
Maxnow i want to give away my linux cds to my friends02:16
podgemadsen: When I right click on your IRC username..02:16
madsenLinforcer: hopefully it'll have bootsplash.02:17
madsenpodge: Oh! :)02:17
zhukovas well as (not conifrmed) some sort of expose and that sleek animation of the window minimizing to the bar  la mac os :D02:17
madsenpodge: I use irssi, so I don't "right click" anywhere. ;)02:17
zhukov*confirmed02:17
podgemadsen: My project at the moment is getting my Sun Rays to work on Ubuntu.. pretty much everything figured out except ALSA sound..02:17
Maxhey gotta go guys02:18
madsenzhukov: I saw some cool stuff somewhere with window movement, minimizing and maximizing. I'll try to look a little for it.02:18
Maxsee u later02:18
Funraisersul02:18
madsenpodge: Sub Rays?02:18
zhukovmadsen, thanks :D02:18
Maxbye Funraiser02:18
madsenpodge: Sun, even.02:18
Maxbyr zhukov02:18
FunraiserMax, bye dude02:18
podgemadsen: Yeah.. Sun Ray thin clients..02:18
Maxbye zhukov02:18
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zhukovbye Max02:18
Linforcerdoes anyone know why a desklet that simply counts down to a darn date takes up 30% processor usage?02:18
Funraiserlol02:18
Linforcerbecause it's still a mystery to me02:18
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Funraiserdoes it count down from 19878765676545?02:19
madsenpodge: Oh! Sweet!02:19
zhukovbecause it is very complicated...02:19
Funraisernevermind02:20
podgemadsen: http://nz.sun.com/product-images/large/I1_hw_sunray150_lg.jpg02:20
Seveas* Funraiser thinks Seveas is very quiet02:20
Seveasi am at work :)02:20
zhukovthey have to put the cpu in reverse...02:20
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zhukovthe all computer is working backwards02:20
podgemadsen: Picked them up for $85 (Australian Dollars)..02:20
madsenpodge: Nice! :)02:20
zhukovsoon enough youll have linux 0.01 :D02:20
madsenpodge: The library in a town where I used to live had like 40 of those. They're pretty nice!02:20
podgeSeveas: Where do you work?02:21
Linforcerman... I talked to this guy the other day that thought his cpu was like his whole case with contents as oppossed to his processor02:21
zhukovyou can also try aDesklets02:21
zhukovit is available as an autopackage02:21
zhukovbetter bars and so on02:21
zhukov:)02:21
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podgemadsen: I have a few around the house.. so I have Internet/Music roaming with my smart card..02:21
Seveaspodge, University of Amsterdam02:22
luminerdso many people here, someone must have configured a wacom?02:22
Funraiserwhat's a wacom lol?02:22
madsenpodge: Hehe, neat!02:22
SeveasFunraiser, a tablet02:22
luminerdFunraiser, a tablet that lets you draw on a little pad and it goes into the comp02:22
madsenluminerd: I have!02:22
podgeSeveas: What do you do there?02:22
madsenluminerd: The Volito.02:22
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luminerdmadsen, sweet :) I have a volito!!!02:22
Seveaspodge, programming, research, system administration...02:23
luminerdmadsen, do you have a bit of time?02:23
madsenluminerd: What's the problem? :)02:23
luminerdmadsen, I just can't get it to work!  what kernel btw?02:23
zhukovwelll02:23
zhukovim of nopw02:23
zhukovgonna eat and see my princess02:23
podgeSeveas: Cool.. Sounds like my job minus the research..02:23
zhukovenough ubuntu for now02:23
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madsenluminerd: I used kernel 2.6.11 on debian02:23
podgezhukov: Was that the girl in the photos?02:24
zhukovbye!!02:24
zhukovyup :)02:24
luminerdmadsen, I don't really understand the linuxwacom.sf.net docs...they make little sense to me, I'm really a n00b!  and someone walked me through everything when I was on 2.4...couldn't get it to work :(...now I'm on 2.6 and I just can't understand a bit of the docs. not sure whether to start over, assess where I'm at, or what02:24
podgezhukov: Daughter or girlfriend? Hard to tell..02:24
zhukovloool02:24
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luminerdmadsen, I'm 2.6.11.11 on Slackware XD02:24
zhukovgirlfriend02:24
erbhello02:24
podgezhukov: The screenshots were pretty small..02:24
zhukovim still young :)02:24
zhukovjust a kid02:24
luminerdmadsen, ironic that though we're in #ubuntu we are both non-ubuntu distros XD02:25
madsenzhukov: http://www.gnome.org/~seth/blog/xshots <- There02:25
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podgezhukov: haha.. have fun..02:25
madsenluminerd: I installed Ubuntu yesterday. :)02:25
luminerdmadsen, ah, I see02:25
podgeluminerd: We are just interesting people .. :)02:25
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luminerdlol02:25
Funraiserall right i'm off too, SUL02:25
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zhukovmadsen, thanks02:25
ilucivok why would I have opengl direct rendering but no 3d acceleration (this is point2play/cadgera test btw) on a radeon 9250 horay02:25
zhukovyou're all grown up... :D02:25
madsenzhukov: np. :) Take a look at the videos, they're pretty cool. :)02:25
zhukovim probbly the youngest here02:25
podgewobbly windows..02:26
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cpophello, i'm considering switching to ubuntu for a desktop system, have a few questions02:27
zhukovbut this a new desktop manager or add-ons for gnome?02:27
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cpopi understand it's based on debian, right?02:27
hornsby_cpop, go ahead02:27
Seveascpop, right02:27
cpopi'm most interested in the update system02:27
hornsby_cpop, true02:27
rekacpop: ask away.02:27
Seveascpop, same apt system as debian :)02:27
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melanomarc-hispano.org02:28
cpopi used debian testing on some server systems and i liked the whole apt deal02:28
Seveasincluding a GUI client02:28
cpopapt-get upgrade, apt-get update, done.02:28
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cpopso same thing works on ubuntu, i take it02:28
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Seveascpop, other way around :)02:28
hornsby_cpop, same02:28
cpopwell ok.02:28
Seveasapt-get update; apt-get upgrade02:28
hornsby_sudo  in front :)02:28
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Seveasbut yeah, Ubuntu uses apt too02:28
cpopwhat debian does ubuntu use? testing, unstable, stable?02:29
cpopor can you customize it just like debian?02:29
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hornsby_cpop, you can if you know what you do02:29
Seveascpop, ubuntu is based on sid (unstable) and can be customized to whatever you want basically02:29
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kristoffeim trying to make an raid array from 2x partitions i have, sda1/sdb1, they are both linux raid autodetect types, but when i try to do mkraid /dev/md0 i get cannot determine md version: no MD device file in /dev. , i try to do a MAKEDEV md but it isnt working02:29
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AnguSi thought it was based on sarge...02:29
cpopcan it use debian mirrors or does it need ubuntu specific mirrors?02:30
kristoffei dont have the md in /dev, and cant create it02:30
SeveasAnguS, it is not02:30
delireout of interest.. anyone here know of a blog/site detailing a migration from OSX to Ubuntu? a friend that uses OSX is switching and asked for some reference material.02:30
Seveascpop, right now yu should not use debian mirrors02:30
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hornsby_cpop, you can use debian mirror, again if you know what you do :)02:30
AnguSi feel a little unconfortable now ahha02:30
Seveascpop, and morevover: all debian stuff is also in ubuntu mirrors02:30
cpopso what's the diff between debian and ubuntu? i gather it's more than just an installer and a desktop theme02:30
cpopnew software, perhaps?02:31
Seveascpop, from the next version on you can use mirrors for debian stable again02:31
podgemadsen: Those wobbly windows are pretty cool!02:31
tweakism_Is it OK to and how do I install the kernel package from breezy on my hoary system?02:31
delirecpop: sensible defaults to the ends of desktop use.02:31
Seveascpop, see www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/relationship for all the info02:31
madsenpodge: Yeah. :)02:31
AnguScpop: it's the release process... ubuntu releases about every 6 months, and yes the customize the desktop a bit etc... but all in all it's just debian packages02:31
Seveastweakism_, it is not ok02:31
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tweakism_Seveas: :/  Why not?02:31
cpopcan an ubuntu system once installed be updated solely via apt?02:31
AnguSyes02:32
delireyes02:32
d3bianytes02:32
NicPyes02:32
NicP:D02:32
d3biansi02:32
Seveastweakism_, well, basically it can (and will) break stuff...02:32
cpopthat's one of the strong points i think02:32
d3bianu can upgrade all linux systems from apt or yum02:32
d3bianin freebsd from ports02:32
d3bianas well as gentoo02:33
Seveasd3bian, hmm, yum and upgrading02:33
Seveaslol!02:33
Seveasbreakage galore...02:33
d3bianyes!! u can upgrade fedora thru yum02:33
podgemadsen: So what do I need to have the wobbly windows on Ubuntu? :)02:33
delireeww fedora02:33
d3bianbe advised yum is an rpm version of apt02:33
Seveasd3bian, not if you don't want to ruin your system :)02:33
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tweakism_Seveas: Ok...  I could compile my own kernel, and that would work.  What exactly does Ubuntu do to warty kernels to break them on hoary?02:33
madsenpodge: Hehe, I have absolutely no clue. :)02:33
Seveasd3bian, i know, rpms simply aren't good enough for this...02:33
cpopthanx for the help02:33
kkantosomeone know gdesklets02:33
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kkanto?????02:34
d3bianno all the desktops that run on my servers run fedora and ive upgrade them all thru yum02:34
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madsenpodge: Perhaps the latest CVS version of Xorg and some patches for it and an insane gfx card. ;)02:34
kkantoI have the problem02:34
Seveaskkanto, asking specific questions helps better...02:34
d3bianwhat makes u think that seveas02:34
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Seveasd3bian, my experience with fedora crap.02:34
zhukovhey look02:34
d3bianim a debian freak but the good guys @ duke created a good tech02:34
zhukovso it is possible to make this work in ubuntu? :D02:34
zhukovlets do it02:34
d3bianwell that maybe ur ecperience, mines have been wonderful02:35
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Seveasd3bian, well, you were lucky then...02:35
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d3bianno not really fedora is a good distro02:35
zhukovhe made it wth and extremly shitty card :) i know it because i have one :D02:35
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kkantoMy gdesklets daemon failled "vivible property"02:35
d3bianunfortunately i dont use it but it works for all the users in my network02:35
podgemadsen: Good point!02:35
hornsby_question : how do you guys based a good or bad distro on ?02:36
madsenpodge: :)02:36
Seveasd3bian, hmm, fedora a good distro, you are either insane or a troll...02:36
Seveashornsby_, sensible defaults, available software, upgrading system, release schedule, policy for including software...02:36
podgemadsen: What do you think of the Sun Looking Glass interface?02:36
d3bianno u r the insane one just cause ur experience mightve been bad that doesnt mean its bad for the whole world02:37
madsenpodge: Looks pretty nice, but a bit over the top for me. :)02:37
d3bianwhat distro do u use let me guess ubuntu02:37
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zhukovim gonna make it... lalalalalalala02:37
hornsby_Seveas, then fedora suck :) only ubuntu rock02:37
d3bianwhere is all configed for you02:37
Seveasd3bian, it's not just *my* experience....02:37
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Shorty--sifnt fedora suck02:37
Shorty--:P02:37
Seveas100's of peoples experience actually...02:37
xurrahi all02:37
d3biansure buddy02:37
d3bianhey just check how many fedora users are out there02:38
xurrai need some help please02:38
d3biansup xurra what ur problem02:38
Seveasxurra, just state the problem/question please02:38
podgemadsen: I loaded it up on SUSE a while ago.. it was cool.. but limited..02:38
xurrasorry...it'll have to be later02:38
Linforcerd3bian: Dude... nice English.02:38
Seveasd3bian, hmm, if you say usercount says all: look how many people use windows....02:39
kafeined3bian, just check how many windows users are out there02:39
LinforcerHaha.02:39
kafeineSeveas :)02:39
madsenpodge: Didn't it require your first born and an evil gfx card?02:39
podgemadsen: It ran okay on my GeForce 2 GTS..02:39
d3bianso , whats the problem with that , so are u sayin that win is a bad os?02:39
Linforcerd3bian: yes02:39
Linforcerd3bian: the worst02:39
Seveasd3bian, please stop trolling, this is a help channel, not an advocacy channel...02:39
hornsby_lets say it is just a matter of taste weither you like or not a distro02:40
Seveasand yes, i think windows is bad for many reasons02:40
d3bianif u do then obviously u r either a brainwashed 17 yr old that have not been involved with computers at all02:40
Linforcerd3bian: and if you troll at least spell "you" and "your"02:40
Seveasd3bian, please speak proper english...02:40
madsenpodge: Really! I'll have to try it out some time. :)02:40
d3biandont worry bout it u understand what im sayin02:40
kafeined3bian, you seem to be the brainwashed 17... err... 12 years old02:40
d3bianim not wastin my time correctin myself02:40
d3bianin case u forgot ubuntu looks very much like win02:41
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Seveasthere02:41
kafeinesweet:)02:41
Linforcer^^02:41
Linforcergood02:41
decohurray \o/02:41
Seveasno trolling allowed in here, let's get back to helping people02:41
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delired3bian: ubuntu is more popular than fedora in distrowatch.org at least (if that's any indication).02:41
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decoit doesn't matter if it's popular or not02:42
hornsby_d3bian, there are some times when one has to know when to stop trolling02:42
Seveasdelire, distrowatch gives an indication of the hype-factor of a distro :)02:42
delireSeveas: certainly does02:42
hallercan i start gnome using ssh? can i login to gdm using ssh?02:42
LinforcerSeriously, since when did linux start getting used by people who say "ur"02:42
Seveasbut it's nice to lead it though02:42
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dos000anyone know why i am getting unmet dependencies for mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb when i do dist-upgrade ? i just installed a clean hoary on this system yesterday.02:43
delireSeveas: Mepis is certainly up there in the hype of late. a fine distro also.02:43
Seveashaller, you should look at xdmcp or freenx02:43
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Seveasdos000, can you paste the error on pastebin.kaarsemaker.net please02:43
zhukovthis is a pointless discussion02:43
Seveasdos000, paste your sources.list too02:43
zhukovand sincerly i'va had enough of this type of discussion02:43
zhukovc u later02:43
Seveashmm, the discussion ended already :)02:44
LinforcerxD=02:44
LinforcerSeveas: it must've felt good :P02:44
SeveasLinforcer, what..?02:44
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hornsby_dos000, paste in flood02:44
hornsby_#flood02:44
LinforcerSeveas: Mode #ubuntu +q d3bian!*@* by Seveas02:44
Seveasno not really, I dont like muting people.02:45
Linforcerhm02:45
SeveasBut pointless trolling is too disturbing for a help channel02:45
Linforcerm'kay02:45
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delirea point there though, in-fighting between linux distro's is silly. especially given nasties out there like OSX and windows really ought to be the target.02:45
Linforcerheh #ubuntu-trolls :P02:45
Seveasdelire, not even that, and certainly not in here02:46
delireyes, sure02:46
Seveaswindows and osx have their strong points too02:46
pmjdebruijnWell OS X anyway...02:46
LinforcerxDI02:46
dos000Seveas, hornsby_ http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/6802:46
Linforcerpmjdebruijn: mij thoughts02:46
Seveasdos000, ahm you are using the us mirror02:46
Seveasdos000, that mirror is broken02:47
Seveasdos000: To switch to a working mirror type the following:  sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update02:47
pmjdebruijnWindows and Strong Points don't go well in the same sentance...02:47
hornsby_dos000, Seveas said everything :)02:47
delirepmjdebruijn: OT but having tried OSX I found i dislike it nearly as much as win32.02:47
hornsby_dos000, I would also uncomment the universe rep.02:48
pmjdebruijndelire: hmmm but it still has some strong points...02:48
delirepmjdebruijn: some yes02:48
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dos000Seveas, i still get the same error . i also did the update.02:49
pmjdebruijndelire: i mean i still have nightmares about the '95 / '98 days... when sysadmins still needed to wair platemail...02:49
Seveasdos000, hmm, can you try: apt-get install mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb02:49
delirepmjdebruijn: win98 was the last win32 OS i really used, so i'm very out of touch with what the company offers now.02:50
dos000Seveas, it depens on thesaurus !02:50
Seveasdos000, on both02:50
hornsby_dos000, apt-get install openoffice.org-thesaurus-en-us02:51
Seveasdos000, but generally, when you try to install a dependency that cannot be installed you get a more helpful error message02:51
hornsby_dos000, have you uncomment the rep universe ?02:51
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dos000openoffice.org-thesaurus-en-us depends on  mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb  ... looks like there is a cyclic dependency here !02:51
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pmjdebruijndelire: well Windows 2000 / XP aren't *that* bad... especially 2k was nice and stable...02:51
delirepmjdebruijn: right.02:51
deliredos000: you did apt-get update first?02:52
dos000hornsby_, i am trying to avoid universe02:52
dos000delire, yes02:52
Seveasdos000, apt can handle cyclic dependencies02:52
Seveasdos000, have you removed openoffice.org?02:52
deliredos000: note you can apt-get install two or more packages at the same time. this can sometimes resolve dependencies not satisfied by apt automagically.02:53
dos000Seveas, not yet .. i can do that tho. as i said this a fresh install.02:53
Seveasdos000, well, you should *not* remove it, i was just checking02:53
Seveasdos000, hmm, can you try: apt-get install mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb openoffice-thesaurus-en-us02:53
hornsby_try to apt-get install openoffice.org-thesaurus-en-us mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb02:54
hornsby_:D02:54
Seveashornsby_, beat ya :p02:54
dos000Seveas, i tried install both on cmd line .. and .. it looks like it works !02:54
deliredos000: as i said, this is often a good thing to try before harsher methods02:54
hornsby_Seveas, great minds ... :)02:54
eruinI'm trolling d3bian in a pm :P02:54
Seveasdos000, nice, and now try to install the language-support package again :)02:54
eruinit's great fun02:54
eruin;>02:54
Phreakazoidhornsby_, your nickname is a suburb near me.. how odd02:55
Seveaseruin, don't. Or at least keep it to yourself...02:55
delireeruin: you know what they say about trolls and feeding.02:55
hornsby_Phreakazoid, it is not my nick, it is my name :902:55
Phreakazoidyeah?02:55
hornsby_yep02:55
Phreakazoidwell there is a place named after you then02:55
dos000Seveas, i get "language-support-en is already the newest version"02:55
hornsby_hehe :)02:55
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Phreakazoidexcept the place Hornsby here was named after someone called "Horne"02:56
Seveasdos000, well, then you're done :)02:56
hornsby_Phreakazoid,  thanks for the info :)02:56
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dos000Seveas, thanks !02:56
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hornsby_Phreakazoid, where is that place ?02:56
jind_How can I get apt-get to ignore missing / faulty MD5Sums?02:56
Seveasjind_, by using a correct server02:57
Phreakazoidhornsby_, its a suburb of Sydney, Australia02:57
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hornsby_nice :)02:57
Seveasthe us.archive server is faulty02:57
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Seveasjind_, and you really really really shouldn't ignore md5sum mismatches, they're there for a very good reason...02:57
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hornsby_jind_, sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update02:57
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Seveashornsby_, copycat :p02:58
hornsby_:P02:58
jind_I know. But in this case it's just some unofficial repos02:58
hornsby_info as fast as possible :)02:58
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hornsby_Seveas, sorry :P02:58
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Seveasjind_, marillat?02:58
jind_hornsby_, what does that mean?02:59
jind_What does it do?02:59
Seveasyou should not use that anyway..02:59
Seveasjind_, but manually downloading and installing the .debs can help you02:59
jind_I installed the repos from www.ubuntuguide.org02:59
Seveasjind_, ubuntuguide is bad02:59
jind_Hm, alright02:59
Seveasand should not be used02:59
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delirejind_: s/something/newthing is a substitution. the UNIX program sed performs this using the command above on the file sources.list which contains a list of package repositories for use by apt.03:00
CruNcherhi got a question http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/software/sources-ui.png <- is this allready available ?03:00
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jind_Alright. Do you have a alternative page to get good repos?03:00
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SeveasCruNcher, looks like the synaptic dialog for editing repositories...03:01
Seveasjind_, all official Ubuntu repositories are listed at http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/3803:01
delirethe ubuntuguide should be updated to include this03:01
Seveasthe Ubuntuguide person doesn't cooperate with others03:02
jind_thanks a lot. I didn't know ubuntuguide.org is bad. But I have had a some problems with missing dependencies and such from there03:02
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hallerXDMCP is too much for me.. can i start a gnome session per bash with ssh?03:02
jind_I'll take a look at that last link03:02
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mjrhaller, yes, just run gnome-session03:02
delireSeveas: it should be a wiki03:03
delires/wiki/"public wiki"03:03
Seveasdelire, indeed03:03
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CruNcherSeveas thx03:04
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CruNcheruseing Kubuntu thats why i didn't realized it it seems ;P03:05
delirehehe yes. does Kubuntu have 'KPackage'?03:05
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BurgerManndoes anyone know a consoleprog that scales jpegs fast and efficient?.. this digital camera age kills me when I have to scale photos :s03:06
Seveasdelire, yes03:06
SeveasBurgerMann, convert03:06
Seveaspart of imagemagick03:06
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delireBurgerMann: ImageMagick03:06
SeveasBurgerMann, i used that to convert 100's of photos in one command03:06
BurgerMannOh... I'll have a look.. thx =)03:06
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BurgerMannSeveas, sweeet!03:06
delireBurgerMann: convert, display and others are part of the IM set of tools.03:07
delire.. all fantastic03:07
Seveasindeed03:07
SeveasImageMagick rocks03:07
deliretruly.03:07
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Efwisquestion, what is a good choice for a fax program for Ubuntu?03:07
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delireEfwis: apt-cache search fax gnome03:08
delireok, just drop the 'gnome' ;)03:09
EfwisI did that, there are 2 listed efax and hylafax03:09
delireapt-cache show efax03:09
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bigfoot1can anyone tell me how to use a perl (.pl) script? I want to import my firefox bookmarks to del.icio.us03:09
bigfoot1http://www.hybernaut.com/bdv/delicious-import.html03:09
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Seveasbigfoot1, perl -w filename.pl03:10
delireperl script.pl?03:10
bigfoot1delire, Seveas thank you.03:10
delireyes, the -w switch03:10
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SeveasALWAYS use the -w switch03:10
delireyes, wise.03:10
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bigfoot1what's -w?03:10
delireEfwis: if you don't mind using KDE applications, check out kfax03:11
Seveasbigfoot1, it will generate warnings when the perl programmer does icky stuff03:11
bigfoot1and this script requires "requires XML::LibXML (tested with 1.56) and HTML::Parser (tested with 3.26)." where do i get these? Do i already have these?03:11
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Seveasapart from using perl, which is icky by definition :)03:11
delirehehe, rise Python, Lord of Snakes03:11
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Efwiswill it work with gnome?? i didn't think that would work on it03:12
bigfoot1where do i get the two pre-requisites?03:12
Seveasbigfoot1, aptitude install libxml-libxml-perl03:12
bigfoot1efwis, are you talking about this delicious script?03:12
chrissturmhey, how can i configure xchat to automatically identify with nickserv? :)03:12
Efwisnorm_, i'm talking fax03:12
bigfoot1Seveas, delire why is perl icky?03:12
Seveaschrissturm, see the xchat docs :)03:12
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bigfoot1why do yo think so, anyway?03:12
Efwisdamn auto-complete03:12
ryan_hi,all03:12
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mhz#join squirrelmail03:13
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Seveasbigfoot1, aptitude install libhtml-parser-perl03:13
chrissturmseveas: any more concrete hint?03:13
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delirebigfoot1: it's not very human readable and uses many 'magic' characters that can get you into a real jam when using inside other programming contexts, like other scripts.03:13
bigfoot1how did you know the exact filenames? have you installed them yourself?03:13
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Seveaschrissturm, menu x-chat -> server list03:13
Seveaspick a server03:14
Seveaschoose edit server03:14
Seveasand put ns identify YOUR_PASSWORD in the connect command box03:14
bigfoot1interesting i ran "aptitude install libxml-libxml-perl" without the sudo. i thought i would have needed to do sudo with it.03:14
bigfoot1oh right. the error message was at the end.03:14
bigfoot18)03:14
delirehehe03:14
mhzbigfoot1, :)03:14
Kamping_Kaiserhas anyone got the backports mirrors working?03:14
Seveasbigfoot1, apt-cache search libxml | grep perl :)03:14
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bigfoot1Seveas, The following packages are not AUTHENTICATED:03:15
bigfoot1  libxml-libxml-common-perl libxml-namespacesupport-perl libxml-libxml-perl03:15
bigfoot1  libxml-sax-perl03:15
bigfoot1. is this ok?03:15
Seveasbigfoot1, what delire said. Plus perl uses really weird things like () not being mandatory etc...03:15
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Seveasbigfoot1, no03:15
chrissturmwohoo03:15
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bigfoot1it needs to be authenticated?03:15
Seveasbigfoot1, stop using backports/other non-offical repos :)03:15
bigfoot1Seveas,  i just ran the command you gave me.03:15
chrissturmi just had to enter my password into the nickserv password field :)03:15
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bigfoot1isn't authentication just like those certificates that pop up when browsing the web?03:16
Seveasbigfoot1, if you use the official repositories, you will not get this error03:16
bigfoot1so are these 2 files absent from the official repo's?03:16
Seveasbigfoot1, no03:17
delirei doubt it03:17
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chrissturmi have an ati 9700 with fglrx drivers, how can i use tv out? i would like to watch a movie on tvout while having my desktop on my primary monitor. is that possible?03:17
bigfoot1Seveas, do you use some sort of online bookmark manager? what do you recommend?03:17
Seveasi only use official repos and could find them :)03:17
bigfoot1have you heard of del.icio.us?03:17
chrissturmdel.icio.us is great!03:17
bigfoot1could find what?03:17
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Seveasbigfoot1, i use no online bookmark manager03:17
bigfoot1chrissturm, how do you import your firefox bookmarks into it?03:17
delirechrissturm: see the option "NoTV" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:17
Seveasi only use official repos and could find them :) <-- the 2 packages you asked about03:17
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bigfoot1oh, so you did find them in the official repos. then why did i get the error?03:18
delirechrissturm: you might also want to consider backing up your xorg.conf and generating the file using fglrxconfig03:18
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delirechrissturm: this process will supply you with an option to define TV out settings.03:18
chrissturmdelire: and what player do i use then?03:18
Seveasbigfoot1, because you use non-official repositories...03:18
bigfoot1huh? really?03:18
bigfoot1I have the official ones on.03:18
Seveasbigfoot1, i cannot see another option...03:19
bigfoot1okay, let me check synaptic.03:19
Seveasbigfoot1, can you paste your sources.list on pastebin.kaarsemaker.net03:19
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delirechrissturm: you mean video player? all should be fine.03:19
bigfoot1Seveas, how do i get the sources.list?03:19
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Seveasbigfoot1, gedit /etc/apt/sources.list03:19
chrissturmdelire: thx03:20
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delirechrissturm: np03:20
bigfoot1Seveas, http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/6903:20
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mz2how do i make dmix work with polypaudio?03:21
chrissturmi think breezy is going to be a rocking release03:21
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mz2seems to work fine with all apps that use the alsa interface03:21
hallermjr: gnome-session says "(gnome-session:7354): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:"03:21
delirechrissturm: sure looks to be, with the Summer of Code bounties.03:21
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CruNcherKpackage doesn't accepts my root password03:21
deliremz2: that's one for crimsun03:22
Seveasbigfoot1, your sources.list is f*ed up massively :)03:22
delireCruNcher: odd.03:22
bigfoot1what's wrong, Seveas ?03:22
mjrhaller, you don't have the X display set correctly, possibly because ssh's X forwarding isn't enabled (ssh -X)03:22
bigfoot1Seveas, how do i fix it?03:22
Seveasbigfoot1, use the one at pastebin.kaarsemaker.net 38 and add the java repository to it03:22
Seveasow and massively is overexxagerated :)03:22
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mz2oh right, i think i got it now03:23
CruNcheryeah with kynaptic it works03:23
rekaa little off-topic but: does sarge have the quirks hoary seems to have? (low default res, sound problems)03:23
hallermir: i am on a windows box here. is X forwarding an issue. or do i need x11 as a client for that?03:23
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CruNcherbut with kpackage it doesn't :(03:23
Seveashaller, you really should look into freenx03:24
bigfoot1seveas, okay, i've copied it. do i just paste it into the sources.list? erasing my current list?03:24
CruNcherbug ?03:24
Seveasbigfoot1, yes03:24
Seveasbigfoot1, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list03:24
Seveasotherwise you cannot save it :)03:24
bigfoot1Seveas, and how do i add the java repository, as you said?03:24
Seveasadd this line: deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ hoary java03:24
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delireCruNcher: i have no idea why that would happen.03:25
CruNcherit say su authentification failed03:25
mjrhaller, you need an X server for your windows, and to enable X forwarding from your ssh client03:25
CruNcherEntschuldigung03:25
CruNcherlol03:25
hallerok03:25
hallerthx03:25
bigfoot1Seveas, that's strange. another gedit window popped up. it didn't use my old window. but when i didn't have the sudo command (read-only), it used my old window.03:25
CruNcheraren't su and sudo different handled on ubuntu ?03:25
nalioth_zZzZzZzZhaller: why not use vnc?03:26
SeveasCruNcher, everywhere, not just on Ubuntu, simply because they are different :)03:26
=== delire notes Linux Format magazine has a great article about Xen and virtualisation.
CruNcherok so thats the problem then03:26
CruNcher:D03:26
bigfoot1seveas, all right. all done.03:26
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Seveasbigfoot1, nice03:26
CruNcherit should use sudo for ubuntu hehe03:26
Seveasnow do apt-get update03:26
delireCruNcher: sudo is defined by the su in a file called /etc/sudoers03:26
Seveasand retry installing03:26
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hallernalioth_zZzZzZzZ: i want to but cant start gnome / vino from ssh..03:27
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bigfoot1seveas, can i delete the "source" repos?03:27
chrissturmis there a way to get automount to work with the breezy 2.6.12 kernel?03:27
bigfoot1Seveas,  I'm not a developer.03:27
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delires/"sudo is"/"sudo rules are"03:27
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naliothhaller: really? hmm03:27
hallernalioth: or i dont know how to do it. do you?03:28
delirebigfoot1: it's no problem to comment out the sources repository03:28
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CruNcherthx delire :)03:28
naliothhaller: i'm lookin03:28
delireCruNcher: had me worried ;)03:28
naliothhaller: you WILL need an xserver of some sort for x-forwarding03:28
Seveasbigfoot1, yes you can03:28
delireCruNcher: are you using KDE or Gnome there?03:28
Seveasbut they don't hurt :)03:28
CruNcherKDE03:28
bigfoot1comment out? that's not the same as removing them in synaptic, is it?03:28
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delireCruNcher: ahah, then you'll benefit with the integration anyway.03:29
bigfoot1Seveas, will i ever need the sources repos?03:29
Seveasbigfoot1, no you won't probably :)03:29
delireCruNcher: KDE has a very cool suite of integrated administration apps.03:29
bigfoot1do you need them?03:29
naliothbigfoot1: anything in a text file with a # in front of the line, is called "commented out" and is ignored by the programs using that text file03:29
naliothbigfoot1: i recommend you comment them out, because you might need them sometime03:29
bigfoot1nalioth, hello. nice to hear from you again. thank you for  "commenting in". in what kind of circumstances do you think one needs the source repos?03:30
delirebigfoot1: it's good to get into the habit of commenting out that which you don't need. leave yourself little commented notes (comments) also.03:30
naliothbigfoot1: and in any case, they are not doing any harm in the txt file, since they are only used when you ask apt t0 build from source03:30
bigfoot1when is it necessary to build from source?03:31
naliothbigfoot1: there are some binaries (esp on amd64 and ppc arches) not available. so on those platforms, building from deb-src archives gets you a 'home-rolled' ubuntu packaged binary03:31
bigfoot1nalioth, but if i'm on a x86, then the sources repos are useless?03:32
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delirebigfoot1: barely necessary. having them in there will only slow down your apt-get update time, very slightly.03:33
delirebigfoot1: but there's no need to take those sources repos out of there altogether03:33
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naliothbigfoot1: they are probably not gonna be needed by an x86 user, but comment them out for insurance03:34
naliothbigfoot1: even uncommented, as i said, they are not used unless you request a source build using apt03:34
bigfoot1okay.03:35
bigfoot1i'll put the pound sign in front of them.03:35
ryan_the default ubuntu can't play mp3?03:36
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naliothryan_: www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats03:36
delirebigfoot1: is "the pound sign" the same as '#'03:37
nalioth delire in the USA, yes03:37
ryan_thank you nalioth03:37
bigfoot1yes delire . 8-)03:37
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delirenalioth: ahah, i know little about america :003:38
naliothdelire: make one03:38
bigfoot1I didn't mean the currency symbol. 8-)03:38
delirenalioth: i have one. perhaps i should submit it.03:38
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naliothdelire: yes, metapackages i would think are not so closely inspected (i mean, what are they but pointers to other pkgs, right?)03:38
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delirenalioth: yes. i have made a few for debian, though am unfamiliar with the ubuntu process, where submission and maintenance is concerned.03:39
delirenalioth: eg if a package name changes, the metapackage must too. this is where 'maintenance' comes in..03:40
naliothdelire: you can go to the wiki and sign up to be a dev03:40
naliothdelire: and you can be the maintainer of the metapkg03:40
delirenalioth: mayhaps. i want to see where m.shuttleworth goes with breezy first.03:40
delirenalioth: tempting.03:40
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stevegriffis there a site where I can search what packages are available for ubuntu users?03:41
naliothdelire: if you are a dev (no matter what sort) you have influence in the direction of breezy (and sinister squirrel, and rowdy rabbit, and so on)03:41
naliothstevegriff: packages.ubuntu.com, i believe03:41
stevegriffthanks nagesh03:41
bigfoot1stevegriff, what about synaptic?03:41
delirenalioth: hehe you're joking, they are the forthcoming version names ?03:41
pmjdebruijnnalioth: meritocrasy?03:41
stevegriffnalioth even :D03:41
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naliothdelire: i made them up03:42
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coulixis there a fix for the totem error under ati driver ? i have to use mplayer :/03:42
naliothpmjdebruijn: whatever works03:42
delirenalioth: you can go to the wiki and sign up to be a brand-imager ;)03:42
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stevegriffahhh cool apache2 is there03:42
naliothdelire: me in marketing?03:42
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stevegriffI'm moving from Gentoo to ubuntu but with my desktop I need some server stuff03:43
wijnandis there a recommended method to resize a windows (ntfs) partition before installing ubuntu? i'm trying to set it up on a friends machine03:43
delirenalioth: "sinister squirrel" has an edge, you have to admit.03:43
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naliothdelire: eats other distros nuts03:43
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delirewijnand: do it from windows land AFAIK03:43
delirenalioth: there you have it. now go forth and market with ferocity.03:43
naliothwijnand: use partition magic from windoze, or wipe the system and start clean03:44
stevegriffdoes Ubuntu ask you what file format you want your partitions formatted in?03:44
coulixyes03:44
wijnandnalioth: PM costs lots of money though, doesn't it?03:44
naliothstevegriff: ext3 mostly03:44
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wijnandnalioth: starting over is never a bad idea for windos though ;)03:44
naliothwijnand: yes it is a commercial product03:44
wijnandstevegriff: yup03:44
bigfoot1is there a way i could remotely (and securely) connect to my home ubuntu PC from a Windows PC at work?03:45
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wijnandstevegriff: ext3 by default but reiserfs and others are available03:45
mjrwijnand, the free way is "ntfsresize", dunno about reliability though03:45
delirewijnand: start over, or back up and take the risk (if you can't afford PM).03:45
hornsbywijnand, the partition manager from ubuntu worked great for me, resized a partition ntfs, moved data ...03:45
naliothwijnand: please don't ask me what to do with windoze.. .. (i'll tell ya every time to wave bye-bye)03:45
bigfoot1i'd like to, for instance, browse my hard drive.03:45
mjrbigfoot1, ssh; install ssh server and putty for the windows box03:45
naliothbigfoot1: vnc over ssh03:45
mjr(ssh server for the ubu box)03:45
delirewijnand: what do you use win32 for currently?03:45
wijnandnalioth: that's my normal strategy too :)03:45
naliothwijnand: just keep in mind re hornsby that ntfs writing is still considered 'unstable' under linux03:45
stevegriffwijnand - thanks. I've used reiserfs for the last couple of years but I'm just wondering if there's better filesystems on the horizon03:46
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wijnanddelire: it's a friend who wants to migrate to linux in time... dualboot is the way to begin :)03:46
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wijnandnalioth: yeah i know03:46
hornsbynalioth, true but it worked well for me few times03:46
mjrnalioth, ntfs writing and ntfs resizing are somewhat different things though03:46
delirewijnand: right..03:46
thenukebigfoot1: ssh?03:46
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thenukebigfoot1: if you really cant live without the x-windows then use that VNC03:47
naliothwijnand: then clean your friends HD, reinstall winduhs (using fat32 filessystem (for easier file sharing on the box)) and go from there03:47
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wijnandyeah i suppose that's the easiest thing to do03:47
thenukebigfoot1: but vnc might need much upload power from your connection03:47
bigfoot1so on the windows pc at work, i can browse thru my home ubuntu pc via the Network World (or something like that) icon on the windows desktop?03:47
wijnandi never make just one partition on any harddisk, just to make moving files around easier03:47
naliothwijnand: i build/service/etc boxen, and i never install windoze on ntfs03:47
ahalhowdy.. any iptables gurus here, i need to block *.prima.net.ar someone is messing with my server, how do i find out what iprange to block?03:48
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thenukebigfoot1: with 800x600x16 it took about 600Kb/sec03:48
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wijnandok well thanks everyone, i'll get to work on it :D03:48
naliothbigfoot1: not so simple, (cuz windoze doesnt allow simplicity) but yes you can log in and browse from work03:48
spiderwormthose dame argentines, always messing with other people's boxes03:48
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bigfoot1oh i see, you mean that using VNC will make the remote computer act as if you are stantding in front of the faraway computer, right?03:48
pfpahal: use 'whois i.p.add.ress' (not IRC /whois :)03:49
naliothahal: at a terminal type "host whatever.prima.net.ar" and you should get a dns number03:49
delireahal: i'd use nslookup03:49
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naliothbigfoot1: yes03:49
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ahalwhois prima.net.ar03:49
ahalThis TLD has no whois server, but you can access the whois database at03:49
ahalhttp://www.nic.ar/03:49
jasoncohenis there a list of packages not available in the amd64 port of hoary? I noticed that flashplayer and mplayer aren't03:50
ahalill try that then :)03:50
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bigfoot1ahal, how did you know that someone is messing with your server? what do you mean by "my server"? you running a website or something?03:50
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ahalyepp webserver logs... upto 500M traffick a day03:50
ahal500M should amount to the whole months traffick03:51
bigfoot1what was he doing then?03:51
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mindspinahal did you have a look at /var/log/auth.log ?03:51
pfpahal: using the whois command w/ raw IP address might get you a usable IP range03:51
bigfoot1maybe he was doing some offline browsing by downloading your whole website, ahal ?03:51
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xam0xHow do I get DVD's to play with the latest release? I have libdvd installed but it's still complaining that I don't have Decryption support on xine, totem, etc.03:51
bigfoot1if not, why then would he get 500M from your server?03:52
jasoncohenxam0x, you have libdvdcss2 installed?03:52
delirexam0x libdvdcss03:52
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naliothbigfoot1: there are programs that monitor your network and can tell you if anyone is trying to access your box03:52
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ahalrepeated requests.. and i dont have a total of 500M stuff there03:52
bigfoot1by access, nalioth, do you mean "hacking"?03:52
naliothxam0x: libdvdcss03:52
xam0xnope, thx03:52
bigfoot1is there anything wrong with accessing? don't we all access boxes when we go to any website?03:52
islanderDoes anybody knows where can I get Alienware themes for linux03:53
naliothbigfoot1: yes i mean 'cracking'03:53
xam0xWhere is a package for that03:53
delireahal i use 'watch -d netstat -tupa'03:53
bigfoot1what is to crack?03:53
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bigfoot1does ahal have some credit card numbers on his box or something?03:53
naliothbigfoot1: nothing wrong with legitimate access, but probing for holes/older unpatched software, etc, is not cool03:53
naliothxam0x: universe or multiverse03:53
delirebigfoot1: 'cracking' relates to the breaking or decoding of keys used in a digital security context.03:53
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bigfoot1you mean someone can find out about your holes?03:54
lessshasteIf you go to http://www.apple.com/itunes/store/ and click on one of today's top songs does it work for anybody here?03:54
naliothbigfoot1: would you want your box to be operated by someone else?03:54
ahalbigfoot1: just some fucking recipes03:54
bigfoot1nalioth, no.03:54
mindspincheck your server with nessus03:54
islanderHello, fellows, Does anybody knows where can I  get Alienware theme for linux ubuntu03:54
naliothbigfoot1: these crackers are looking for unpatched windoze boxen to infect03:54
lessshasteI get "itms is not a registered protocol"03:54
bigfoot1ahal, why then would someone want to get those recipes? there are thousands of howto's on sexual intercourse on the net.03:54
mindspininstall chkrootkit or something similiar to have a look wether your machine is "cracked"03:55
bigfoot18-)03:55
naliothbigfoot1: and in ahals case, who knows what they're doing03:55
bigfoot1nalioth, but if ahal's box is ubuntu, it's safe, right?03:55
deliremindspin ahal i use 'tiger' to detect for rootkits and evidence of other exploits.03:55
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delirebigfoot1: yes, very in the relative scheme of things.03:55
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ahalbigfoot1: i dont care why, i just want to block them as they are clearly fucking with me03:55
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jasoncohendoes anyone here use the amd64 port?03:56
optiki fif.....03:56
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delireahal if you have a firewall just build a rule. i use shorewall for this.03:56
naliothbigfoot1: a default install of ubuntu is considered 'safe', but we don't know what ahal has added/changed03:56
stevegriffok, vmware - is there a ubuntu package for this or do I have to install it myself? there's no record of it on packages.ubuntu.com03:56
bigfoot1nalioth, what changes/additions would make ubuntu less safe?03:57
naliothjasoncohen: no, but i might be able to help (don't know pkgs, tho)03:57
mindspinand what scripts are running, cgi-bin can be harmful03:57
viehiiiiiiiiiiiiii03:57
naliothahal: i have a fix for you, give me a minute03:57
optikdid*03:57
optikbut not for long03:57
optikcouldnt stand the lack of packages03:57
ahali have my own firewall rules that are safe.. they keep hitting my webserver port 80, with repeated requests leeching my bandwidht03:57
mindspininproper apache cconfiguration03:57
mindspinand the well known php holes03:57
naliothbigfoot1: adding insecure pkgs, configuring secure pkgs in an insecure manner03:57
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ahalmaybe mod_rewrite could block *.some.net ?03:58
mindspindrop instead of reject limits traffic too03:58
delireyes03:58
naliothahal: here is a good article on what you are wantin to know03:58
pfpi'd block their ip range, doing a reverse dns on _all_ clients would be kinda expensive imo..03:58
naliothahal: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=13003:58
jasoncohennalioth, i asked in #debian if the performance increase was worth it and i was told it was but it seems the amd64 ports are missing quite a few packages I use often. debian doesn't have OO ported yet, and ubuntu doesn't have mplayer03:59
naliothjasoncohen: are you familiar with apt-gets capabilitys?03:59
jasoncohenyes03:59
thenukejasoncohen: uff, if mplayer is not in ubuntus repos, it does not prevent you from adding some extra repos03:59
mindspinblocking complete ip-ranges can cost you a lot of customers if you running a site for business purposes03:59
naliothjasoncohen: unfortunately, you (amd64) and I (ppc) are redheaded stepchildren03:59
thenukejasoncohen: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#mplayer04:00
naliothjasoncohen: mplayer does exist in the ubuntu source repos, and you can have apt build it for you04:00
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jasoncohenyeah, apt-get build dep mplayer ; apt-get -b source mplayer04:00
naliothjasoncohen: you will probably have to have apt build several pkgs (cuz binaries don't exist for amd64 and ppc)04:00
naliothjasoncohen: you got it04:00
naliothjasoncohen: have fun04:01
delirejasoncohen: apt-get build-dep*04:01
jasoncohenyeah, my mistake04:01
delireno biggie ;)04:01
jasoncohenwas trying to fax something at the same time04:01
naliothjasoncohen: we know you know what you're doing04:02
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naliothjasoncohen: but that is the deal, amd64/ppc binarys are not as available as binarys for x8604:02
jasoncoheni'm just worried that the packages won't build and that's the reason they're not available in the first place. for example, i know debian hasn't included OO because they've had some problems getting clean builds04:02
bob2wtf04:02
naliothjasoncohen: but the pkg does exist in source form04:02
bob2OO doesn't even build on amd64 at all04:02
delirejasoncohen they aren't in the native repo's because they contain, or are, non-free software04:03
naliothjasoncohen: not at all, i've had to build mplayer  here on my ppc box (along with other things like transcode)04:03
jasoncohenbob2, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin//search_packages.pl?version=all&subword=1&exact=&arch=any&releases=all&case=insensitive&keywords=openoffice&searchon=names04:03
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bob2jasoncohen: yes, on amd64 it's a 32-bit binary04:03
jasoncohenah, so not pure6404:03
bob2"pure64" is a silly term04:03
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jasoncohenbob2, do you run the amd64 port of ubuntu? how does it compare performance wise to the i386 version?04:04
jasoncohenbob2, the debian port describes itself as pure64- so i imagine all their packages are 64 bit binaries?04:05
bob2no, I don't04:05
bob2"pure64" is still a silly term04:05
delirehehe04:05
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ChoubakaHm.04:07
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bob2jasoncohen: basically everything in ubuntu's amd64 port are amd64 binaries04:08
ChoubakaCan't ubuntu autodetect my USB-mass storage digital camera?04:08
bob2I think OO is the only exception04:08
xurrahi all...04:08
bob2Choubaka: it can for thousands of other people04:08
ChoubakaI thought it could, but it apparently isn't.04:08
xurraI need some help in adding a new printer04:08
Choubakabob2: ok. So I need some help with making it work.04:08
Choubakabob2: any ideas?04:08
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bob2Choubaka: find out what isn't working04:09
bob2Choubaka: does dmesg notice it?  does syslog?04:09
Choubakathe mass storage device is detected, and is shown in dmesg, and is reported as sda04:09
bob2Choubaka: do other devices work?04:09
bob2is the card partitioned?04:09
Choubakals /dev/sda* returns "file not found"04:09
Choubakayes.04:09
Choubakato all of those.04:09
toranhey guys, do you know of any video players similar to kaffeine that I can use? The latest version of kaffeine is REALLY crashing a lot, and it's driving me nuts04:10
Choubakathough "other devices" means cdrom and floppy in this case, since I have no other usb peripherals.04:10
ChoubakaNormally I wouldn't even care, because I mount these things manually.04:10
Choubakabut I'm setting ubuntu to do things automagically now, so my family can operate it on their own.04:11
xurracan anybody explain me how to add a new printer, please?04:11
Choubakaxurra: sudo gnome-cups-manager iirc.04:11
bob2Choubaka: so you have or have not tried other usb devices?04:11
Choubakabut it seems udev isn't even generating the device file.04:11
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Choubakabob2: no, since I don't have any.04:11
bob2xurra: system -> administration -> printers04:12
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Choubakabob2: but the USB _is_ working, since it's shown in dmesg :/04:12
mhzxurra, or, adduser cupsys shadow, so you can use http://localhost:63104:12
xurrai've tried in system>administration>printers, and everything went good, but the printer is not printing at all04:12
ChoubakaOh, damn, I need food. brb.04:13
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mrpull--04:13
sky_hi04:13
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GazaMhi, anybody here have skype working?04:14
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HajuuHeya04:14
qoshmmm04:14
sky_I have skype but on my other computer04:14
toranhey guys, do you know of any video players similar to kaffeine that I can use? The latest version of kaffeine is REALLY crashing a lot, and it's driving me nuts04:15
GazaMI never recieved an email confirmation when I registered, did you?04:15
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sky_Yeah I did04:15
albackertoran : mplayer, xine04:15
GazaMToran, VLC is by far my favourite video player04:15
bob2toran: might be easier if you tell us what you want in a video player04:15
toranalbacker: kaffeine is a frontend to xine04:15
toranI'm looking for a nice frontend with playlist support, etc.04:15
lleberg_GazaM, Admint it's only because of the logo ;)04:15
toraneasy access to choosing subtitles/audio channel04:15
lleberg_ehum, admit*04:15
lessshastehow can you play this (free to download) music file? http://a1576.phobos.apple.com/Music/y2005/m03/d27/h20/s07.oscpmguv.p.m4p04:16
HajuuI installed cedega the other day.. got warcraft 3 running perfectly under it out of the box... But now im trying to install something on a second drive (mounted under /mnt/storage/) but the installer picks up that the / is full and doesnt allow me to install...04:16
GazaMlol04:16
HajuuHow do I fix this?04:16
Hajuucan I go to that drive directly?04:16
naliothlessshaste: you need libfaac04:16
delirelessshaste shouldn't that suffix be *.mp404:16
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chrissturmis there a plugin for firefox search that searches the ubuntu bugzilla?04:17
naliothlessshaste: and probably gstreamer faac plugin04:17
bob2I don't even think there's a bugzilla plugin for usefully searching bugzilla04:17
islanderBob2: How are you, I hope that you are doing fine, I would like to know if you know where can I get an Alienware theme for my linux Ubuntu04:18
lessshastenalioth, hmm... ok... You don't think I need some special apple stuff then04:18
bob2I have no idea what "alienware" is04:18
delireislander: isn't alienware a laptop (re)brand?04:18
GazaMAlienware is a high-end pc manufacturer04:18
islanderyes04:18
naliothlessshaste: libfaac and the plugin will play mp4 and aac files (but not encrypted ones)04:18
GazaMEnthusiast machines04:18
bob2don't they make ugly laptops?04:18
lessshastedelire, apparently not.... it is the itunes extension. Normally drm protected04:18
islanderthey have a nice cool modern theme04:18
lessshastenalioth, well.. it is a preview so presumably not encryptedf04:18
islanderwww.alienware.com04:18
Seveas<shameless plug> #ubuntu pastebin :) http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ </shameless plug>04:18
delireGazaM: re-badged Sager notebooks actually ;)04:18
GazaMnot only notebooks04:19
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GazaMI prefer to make my own pc anyway04:19
bob2oh, awesome, flash on the frontpage04:19
GazaMI just know what they are, doesn't mean I like them04:19
naliothlessshaste: well, that info will get you goin with aac and mp4 files04:19
lessshastenalioth, yes but the fourcc is drms04:19
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martin_what's up ppl04:20
thenukemartin_: sky and the roof,04:20
naliothlessshaste: it will play unencrypted stuff, the encrtypted itms files, you'll need a mac04:20
delirelessshaste: i steer clear of Apple and their nasty ways, no idea how to get around their increasing support of DRM sorry.04:20
martin_ok... if you say so...04:20
naliothdelire: you dont?04:21
GazaMAnybody have a PCI-E ATI card?04:21
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martin_gazam, i wish i had...04:21
martin_does that count04:21
martin_?04:21
delirenalioth: short of doing what i did with a g4 tower, wipe it..04:21
lessshastedelire, hymn apparently.. but you need an ipod for that. I just want to listen to the preview :)04:21
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lessshastenalioth, does it work for you?04:21
delirelessshaste: right.. perhaps gtkpod people have a solution there.04:22
GazaMmartin_, no you don't04:22
GazaMI'm finding it impossible to get 3d working04:22
naliothlessshaste: i dont discuss those sorts of things in here04:22
lessshastenalioth, It is free!04:22
lessshastenalioth, I just want to play the preview :)04:22
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naliothlessshaste: i have some unDRMd mp4s and yes libfaac and gstreamer plugin faac works fine04:22
lessshastenalioth, ok thx. gstreamer plugin for what?04:23
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naliothlessshaste: gstreamer faac plugin and libfaac04:23
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lessshastenalioth, sorry.. what is the media player?04:23
lessshastenalioth, gstreamer?04:23
lessshaste(I use mplayer)04:24
naliothlessshaste: use any media player, gstreamer is the backend of most of em04:24
ChoubakaHmm.04:24
naliothlessshaste: i use rythmbox, and it works great04:24
ChoubakaGood food.04:24
ChoubakaNow, I wonder about that usb issue.04:24
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delireChoubaka: what's up?04:24
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lessshastenalioth, ok.. working on getting rhythmbox to play it04:26
qosis there a german ubuntu channel?04:26
lessshastenalioth, it doesn't play it for you or does it?04:26
naliothqos: ubuntu-de04:26
lessshastehttp://a1576.phobos.apple.com/Music/y2005/m03/d27/h20/s07.oscpmguv.p.m4p04:26
chrissturmqos: #ubuntu-de04:26
naliothlessshaste: my  mp4s play fine (they have no DRM)04:26
lessshastenalioth, this should have no drm04:26
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lessshastenalioth, unless the preview ones do in some weird way04:26
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naliothlessshaste: the m4p i believe is the drm'd file04:26
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maghi, any1 got .deb with mplayer for hoary ?04:27
chrissturmmag: i think its in multiverse04:27
thenukemag: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#mplayer04:27
lessshastenalioth, oh I see. so even though it is free it is still drm'ed ... hmmm04:28
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Choubakadelire: Ah, mhm. Ubuntu is not autodetecting my usb mass storage device.04:29
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augmentorhi all04:29
Seveashi augmentor04:30
mindspinqos I only know #kubuntu-de04:30
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funkyhi04:30
augmentorI tried to install gkismet, and it can't seem to run when i execute me, can someone help me out?04:30
bob2just use kismet04:30
GazaMDoes anyone know if the sound issues will *definitely* be fixed in breexy04:30
GazaM*breezy04:30
bob2define "sound issues04:30
rekaaugmentor: help execute you? sure.04:30
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bob2dmix will probably be setup by default, yes04:30
Choubakain breezy, the sound architecture will change completely. :P04:31
augmentorgkismet i mean :)04:31
GazaMThe various sound issues everyone has with ubuntu.04:31
Choubakawhich is good.04:31
bob2GazaM: there are multiple "issues"04:31
GazaMThey using polypaudio?04:31
bob2GazaM: driver support can't be magically improved04:31
mindspinI had no sound issues04:31
augmentorcan anyone help?04:31
bob2other things can04:31
GazaMbob2, I didn't say magically04:31
bob2augmentor: you need to be less vague when explaining your problem, or you just use kismet04:31
augmentorI tried isntalling it with the make install command and everything seemed to go fine04:31
GazaMI mean bad support for software mixing etc.04:31
Choubakabob2: anyway, any ideas as to why udev is not creating a device file for the mass storage device?04:32
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augmentorbob2, okay, i'll paste the output at pastebin.org04:32
maghmm i'm not on this, what is multiverse ?!04:32
bob2GazaM: dmix will hopefully work by default n breezy04:32
bob2mag: unsupport, non-free software04:32
GazaMthank you04:32
GazaMAlso...04:32
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magoh thx04:32
chrissturmthe new clearlooks theme that appeared in breezy today is beautiful!04:32
GazaMeven though I followed the guide to get sound working correctly, I can't use software which uses oss device04:32
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naliothg2g2 work04:33
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augmentorbob2, is there anywhere else i can paste the output when i try to execute gkismet? pastebin.com is down it seems04:33
zerokillslater nalioth04:33
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bob2augmentor: #flood04:33
Seveasaugmentor, paste.ubuntulinux.nl04:33
augmentorbob2, okay04:33
Seveasaugmentor, rafb.net/paste04:33
Seveasthere are more :)04:33
bob2#flood is so much less of a pain in the arse04:33
Seveasi'd say the opposite04:34
bob2augmentor: so, install the gnome perl module04:34
Seveasnot everybody is in #flood04:34
bob2most of the people who answer questions are04:34
Juhazthere isn't one single advantage #flood has over web pastebins04:34
augmentorSeveas, thanks for the links04:34
augmentorbob2, oh okay04:34
bob2Juhaz: er, requiring one keystroke04:34
bob2augmentor: install libgnome-perl04:34
SeveasJuhaz, not having to fire up a browser :)04:35
Juhazwell... everyone always has a browser on the background :)04:35
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SeveasJuhaz, not really04:35
augmentorbob2, downloading it, thanks04:36
bob2augmentor: np04:36
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bluefoxicywtf my sata isn't showing up04:37
bluefoxicypiece of shit04:37
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Choubakahttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/71 <- hmm?04:41
GazaMHas anybody here got an onboard Realtek AC97 sound card on an nforce motherboard, and 2 sound cards show up in the audio menu, one Realtek ALC, one nVidia CK804?04:42
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rg58smahi04:43
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GazaMhi04:43
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rg58smasomeone knows how to knows what codecs remains in my avi file?04:43
bob2mplayer will tell you04:44
rg58smayes04:44
rg58smabut is a amule file04:44
rg58smatoo mplayer close automatly04:45
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bob2I don't know what that means04:46
bob2Choubaka: how default is this machine?04:47
usssshow to Eject a CD-rom thru command line ?04:47
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bob2the eject command04:47
Choubakabob2: Somewhat old, but new enough. and basic harware. Anyway, seems like a udev restart created the device files.04:47
ussssyeah04:47
ussssit is mounted to /media/cdrom004:47
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ChoubakaI think this is weird, since udev should create them automatically :/04:48
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Lavernerg58sma, try "file bla.avi" that will tell you the file type04:48
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ussssi guess, theres an Eject command in linux...04:48
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rg58smaMr.and Mrs.Smith.avi: RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 544 x 288, 25.00 fps, vide o: DivX 4, audio: MPEG-1 Layer 3 (stereo, 48000 Hz)04:49
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rg58smathat is the result04:49
mindspinuss umount /media/cdrom004:49
mindspineject04:49
Lavernerg58sma, looks like it uses a divx codec04:49
ussssok04:50
ussssuss ?04:50
rg58smaok04:50
raydequick question... if i don't have a /usr/src/linux directory, does that mean i don't have the kernel sources installed?04:50
mindspinussss04:50
ussssawz...04:50
ussssic04:50
mindspinjust to address you04:50
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ussssyeah... i think it was also a command04:50
mindspinhah04:50
mindspinsorry04:50
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ussssumount: /media/cdrom0 is not mounted (according to mtab)04:51
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ussss?04:51
mindspinso try simply "eject"04:51
usssseject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument04:51
mindspinfunny04:52
mindspineject04:52
mindspinsorry04:52
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usssslol, not funny to me, coz im starting linux now...04:52
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mindspinits working pretty fine here04:52
ussssif it fails, i will reinstall it w/ Windows XP04:52
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mindspinits your choice04:53
justinussss: what does mount actually say about your cdrom?04:53
usssslol04:53
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usssseject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument04:53
BurgerMannWho knows ImageMagick?04:53
justinussss: chance #2 what does mount actually say about your cdrom?04:54
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ussssbefore i can open the CD rom thru button. when i insert a cd and try to eject it... it wont open now04:54
justinussss: chance #3 what does mount actually say about your cdrom?04:54
mindspinhahaha04:54
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ussssno display04:55
justinussss: use full sentences04:55
usssspnpa@pnpaserver:/$ mount /media/cdrom004:56
usssspnpa@pnpaserver:/$04:56
ussssthats it04:56
justinfor fucks sake04:56
ussssno msg/display04:56
bob2ussss: no, he means "What does the 'mount' command say about that device?"04:56
bob2ussss: the command you just ran ensures you can never eject the disk04:56
bob2c04:56
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usssswhat hes talking about ???04:56
bob2dude04:57
ussssthats it, no msg/display...04:57
mindspinnow you have to retype the one with umount at the beginning04:57
usssswhat the hell he talking about ?04:57
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bob2ussss: what's your native language?04:57
BurgerMannDoen't anyone know ImageMagick?04:57
ussssthai04:57
justin!tell BurgerMann about polls04:57
egaberthi all04:57
mindspinBurgerMan I know ImageMagick04:57
bob2BurgerMann: why don't you just ask your question?04:57
justingrr04:57
visorpeople, you _cant_ eject the CD/DVD drive with the eject button on it until you deactivate automatic mounting in the gnome properties...04:57
bob2BurgerMann: lots of people have used it.04:57
bob2justin: dude, no04:57
bob2visor: yes, you can04:57
bob2visor: you just have to unmount it04:58
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bob2ussss: so, run the "mount" command.  does it mention /media/cdrom?04:58
visorbob2: that doesnt make any sense, i mean in the way windows does04:58
justinbob2: right clicking the cdrom and picking 'eject' probably works too...04:58
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egaberthi i have a problem how do i install ati drivers for radeon 9600?04:58
bob2visor: yes, indeed, linux is not like windows04:58
BurgerMannoh hi Mindspin, u told me about it before :)).. Since I have several pictures to scale, how do I make it scale all images in the directory04:58
bob2egabert: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto04:58
BurgerMannbob2, cuz I didn't :)04:58
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visorbob2: i know what im saying is that this is an issue that is well known04:58
usssssorry for that...... :(04:59
egabertthx @ bob but i already tried it so04:59
justinBurgerMann: man mogrify, read the examples at the top04:59
ussssi was exposed to windows....04:59
bob2BurgerMann: for i in * ; do convert -scale 800x600 $i $i.thumbnail ; done04:59
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bob2visor: yes, it's well known04:59
egabertand it doesnt work xterm crashes after the configuration04:59
BurgerMannbob2, kewlz :)04:59
mindspinBurgerMan sorry, i dunno, I only use it as part of a web applikation, but a visit at the imagemagick homepage could help05:00
bob2egabert: er, try again then05:00
bob2egabert: and then come back and explain exactly what happens05:00
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visorif you dont believe me ask James Henstridge and why he wrote an applet for ubuntu to unmount the CD/DVD ;)05:00
bob2yes, I know05:00
bob2(I work with james)05:00
ussss:)05:00
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visor:O05:00
usssslol05:00
Choubaka:/05:00
bob2Choubaka: ?05:01
Choubakait's still not automounting the camera05:01
egaberti already tried it 3 times ubuntu said nothing only that the xterm dont work anylonger05:01
visori didnt know :P05:01
ussssis anybody hungry ? :P05:01
tombshi ppl05:01
bob2egabert: you're being too vague05:01
bob2egabert: what happens when you try to run xterm from a terminal? what error do you get?05:01
Choubakaeven though I added the user to plugdev and udev creates the device now05:01
bob2egabert: did you REALLY follow the instructions?05:01
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ChoubakaDo I need to inform gnome about the usb drive somehow?05:01
egabertyes exactly05:01
bob2Choubaka: system -> preferences -> removable media05:01
Choubakaand?05:02
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bob2and read it and make sure the settings are ok05:02
Choubakathey seem to be05:02
mhzHow can I know which group is running php???05:02
Choubakathey're the defaults.05:02
bob2mhz: ps aux05:02
mhz(i'd assume it's www-data)05:02
egabertok ok i try it once amore x)05:02
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visorand so, is this really hard? i mean to catch the kernel signal when the eject button is pressed and in some way communicate this to HAL/D-Bus to unalocate any use of the drive and so it can be ejected?05:02
bob2ussss: dude05:03
bob2ussss: unmount it05:03
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bob2ussss: right click on the icon on the desktop.05:03
ussssi tried already05:03
bob2ussss: not hard enough, it seems05:03
Choubakanope.05:03
Choubakait's not automounting :/05:03
mindspin;-)05:03
bob2ussss: and you're not explaining what isn't working, either05:03
egabertbut i have a question does it work good with this version to install it i want to play quake 3 ??05:03
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usssseject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument05:03
bob2visor: you can't umount devices which programs are using05:03
bob2ussss: with sudo?05:03
mhzbob2, nop, ps ax |grep -i php05:04
mhz outputs nothing05:04
usssschecking...05:04
zerokillsreboot your system, that will unmount it05:04
ussssnot yet...05:04
bob2mhz: er, presumably you're running it as a module inside apache05:04
mhzussss, also, if you use ps ax to see how many process are using your device... then kill em all.05:04
visorbob2: and why when i call the eject function on nautilus it automatically closes the windows which has the drive content?05:04
mhzbob2, if so, then it is www-data05:05
ussssumount: /media/cdrom0: not mounted05:05
mhzhno73, hey!05:05
egabertbob how do you speak to me private?05:05
bob2visor: and when I'm using emacs to access a file on the disk?05:05
bob2mhz: yes05:05
bob2egabert: please don't /msg me05:05
egaberty?05:05
bob2because it's silly05:05
bob2ask your questions in here05:05
justinumount has a nice -l(azy) option for that05:06
mhzegabert, usually, you type /query the_user_name05:06
Choubakahm :/05:06
Choubakabob2: any more ideas?05:06
ussssbob2, theres 9 processes using ps as05:06
visorbob2: your are very right on that i know, its just that this is suppossed to be a friendly desktop OS05:06
ussssdo i have to kill them all05:06
ussss?05:06
bob2visor: I don't think it's a huge deal05:06
mhzyes05:06
visorand if i push the eject button i assume and expect to eject it05:06
bob2visor: and it requires breaking the kernel to change it05:06
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visorbob2: me neither ;) im just commenting on it05:06
bob2ussss: no05:06
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usssswhat i will do with this ps as05:07
bob2ussss: what does "sudo umount /media/cdrom0" print out?05:07
bob2ussss: ignore ps05:07
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VRHussss, umount /dev/hdc05:07
visorplus its not like i have the skills to do something about it thats why im asking05:07
ussssumount: /media/cdrom0: not mounted05:07
usssshdc, i guess its not a cdrom...05:07
ussssHD - Hardisk05:07
Daveyvisor: I use the Gnome Panel Applet for mounting :)05:07
visorussss: what are you trying to do? eject the drive?05:07
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ussssthats what i guess05:07
VRHussss, but is linked05:07
Daveyussss: quite often the CD drives are seen as harddrives :)05:07
ussssvisor, YEAH05:08
Daveyhd* == IDE device, really :)05:08
mhzussss, what does cat /etc/fstab say?05:08
ussssok05:08
ussssi try05:08
visorussss: "lsof | grep /media/cdrom*"  <- try this on the terminal and see what throws05:08
ussssumount: /dev/hdc is not mounted (according to mtab)05:08
mhzussss, it all depends on the order the IDE devices are placed05:08
VRHyes05:09
ussssvisor, blank ?05:09
ussssi mean blank05:09
VRHit can be hdX05:09
ussssno msg05:09
visorussss: ok, then do a "sudo /sbin/eject"05:09
mhzussss, for instance: 1st master is hda, 1st slave is hdb, 2nd master is hdc, 2nd slave is hdd05:10
usssssudo: /sbin/eject: command not found05:10
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chrissturm/usr/bin/eject05:10
mhzussss, whereis eject05:10
chrissturmso just sudo eject should work05:10
mindspinor locate eject05:10
ussssthats what visor said05:10
mhzussss, lso man eject05:11
mhzalso05:11
visorif that does not work neither then do a "sudo tail -F /var/log/messages" and try again to umount then it must show some debug info05:11
mhzussss, is man eject says nothing, then no eject installed :)05:11
visorohh i lost that it was /usr/bin/eject05:11
mhzussss, OR you can always use a good clip :)05:12
chrissturmvisor: /usr/bin and /sbin are both in the path05:12
usssslol05:12
visorand finally you can just reboot05:12
ussssu also said Ubuntu doesnt have eject05:12
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visorchrissturm: i know, i just want to let him know05:12
visorwell gotta go, talk to u later folks05:13
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VRHussss,  ls -al /dev/ | grep cdrom05:14
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justinVRH: what is that going to do?05:14
mhzussss, what does your /etc/fstab say?05:14
VRHthe line for the linked05:14
ussssyehey! it ejects now05:14
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mhzussss, you should see a lin elike /dev/hdc /cdrom05:14
usssspnpa@pnpaserver:/$ sudo /usr/bin/eject <--- using that command05:14
VRHfe: lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root           3 2005-06-13 17:00 cdrom -> hdc05:14
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justin'sudo /usr/bin/eject' is the same thing as 'sudo eject'05:15
ussssyou're greate visor05:15
ussss:D05:15
GNULinuxerhow do I enable UserDir in apache2 ? It says UserDir is now a module and uncommenting the options doesn't seem to work05:15
toxicawaywhats the binary in ubuntu that can play sound even from the console? "play" doesn't exist right?05:15
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bob2toxicaway: it does if you install sox05:16
bob2GNULinuxer: it works by default05:16
Choubakahm05:16
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Choubakathe gphoto2 database does not seem to contain my camera model.05:16
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GNULinuxerbob2, it's raising an Internal Server Error ...05:17
bob2GNULinuxer: what is?05:17
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bob2Choubaka: oh, your camera doesn't do usb-storage?05:17
Choubakait does.05:18
GNULinuxerbob2, If I try to access ~/usename dir05:18
bob2Choubaka: if it doesn't, it's not supposed to automount (since the kernel doesn't know squat)05:18
bob2GNULinuxer: that's broken, but the url should http://foo/~username/05:18
Choubakathe kernel does know about it05:18
Choubakait's still not automounting though.05:18
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bob2no05:18
bob2the kernel knows about all usb devices that get plugged in05:18
GNULinuxerbob2, I know that I meant http://ip.addr/~username/  of course05:18
bob2it may not have any idea how to mount it, tho05:18
bob2which is the case for non-usb-storage cameras05:19
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Choubakabob2: this is a usb-storage camera.05:19
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bob2Choubaka: you're sure?05:19
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ChoubakaI've never used gphoto2 to access it.05:19
ChoubakaI just wondered if it had any relevance :P05:19
justinGNULinuxer: read the error log then05:19
egaberthi so whats the next  step?05:19
egabertroot@FUCKUP:/home/egabert # lsmod | grep "_agp"05:19
egabertsis_agp                 8068  105:19
egabertagpgart                31784  1 sis_agp05:19
stazzThere is something wrong with my networking, every time dhclient trys a renewal, the connection goes down, I think it's related to sit0, can anyone tell me how to get rid of it?05:19
bob2Choubaka: so it has worked before?05:20
bob2stazz: it's not related to sit005:20
Choubakanever with automounting05:20
stazzbob2: ok, I'm all ears05:20
Choubakabut I can mount it with a mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mountpoint05:20
bob2Choubaka: so it creates the device node, and you can 'sudo mount ...' it fine?05:20
bob2ah05:20
egabertplease i need help i think it takes a second from youre time05:20
egabertroot@FUCKUP:/home/egabert # lsmod | grep "_agp"05:20
egabertsis_agp                 8068  105:20
egabertagpgart                31784  1 sis_agp05:20
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usssshow do i kill a Wine-Systray ?05:21
rk4nhi2all05:21
bob2egabert: please stop it05:21
ChoubakaSo now I'm wondering how to make it automount.05:21
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Choubakaor, well, making gnome see it when it's plugged in would be nice, too05:22
bob2Choubaka: if you run "dbus-monitor" and plug it in, do you get an event?05:22
bob2egabert: please don't /msg me05:22
egaberti only wanted a simple help thanks x(05:22
bob2egabert: you haven't given enough information for anyone to help you, and your attitude isn't very enticing05:22
Choubakahmm05:22
GNULinuxerbob2, I had a malformed .htaccess ... now it's working ...05:23
bob2hah05:23
stazzbob2: you wouldn't happen to know why it disconnects on ip renewal?05:23
egabert@ bob sorry but i thought you could help me quickly so i followed the steps on the page and thats my result05:23
GNULinuxerbob2, BTW, when did you migrate to Ubuntu from Debian?05:23
bob2stazz: I don't know what you mean by "disconnect"05:23
Sepheebearhey guys is there any way to get video out of video/x-ms-asf into avi or something I can put on a dvd?05:24
ussssthanks to Ubuntu, i can run my existing mIRC.exe bot05:24
stazzbob2: well, the internet connection dies for several minutes when dhclient starts renewing05:24
bob2GNULinuxer: I started using ubuntu in may or so last year, but I still use both05:24
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bob2stazz: well, yes, you won't be able to use it while dhclient does it's thing05:24
yaaar_workword05:24
bob2stazz: it shouldn't take more than 30s or so, tho05:24
bob2egabert: that's not your result05:24
bob2egabert: presumably somthing isn't working, why don't you tell us what?05:24
GNULinuxerbob2, you may not remember me, but we used to know each other sometime back on #Debian05:24
stazzbob2: I am very confident this isn't normal behaviour05:24
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bob2GNULinuxer: yeah, I do05:25
Choubakabob2: doesn05:25
Choubakadoesn't seem so.05:25
bob2Choubaka: that's odd05:25
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bob2well, let me check I get anything, first05:25
egaberti already done it but nothing had changed so in the howto is written that you could tell me the next step with this informations05:25
Choubakawtf.05:26
bob2egabert: dude05:26
Choubakathere was a "import photos" dialog on the screen now.05:26
bob2egabert: all we know is what you tell us05:26
bob2egabert: and you haven't even explained what isn't working yet05:26
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Choubakabut it doesn't reappear if I unplug and replug05:26
bob2there's nothing any one can do to help you05:26
GNULinuxerbob2, I shifted to Ubuntu a couple of days back ... which repos contain unstable packages like PHP5 ?05:27
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bob2GNULinuxer: none, afaik05:27
GNULinuxerbob2, why?05:27
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seth_kGNULinuxer, PHP5 is super duper experimental. It's not even in Debian yet05:27
bob2GNULinuxer: because no one has made useful php5 packages yet, aiui05:28
egaberti will post it05:28
seth_kGNULinuxer, there's a tutorial on the wiki to build it from source05:28
Daveyseth_k: ROFL... thats too funny05:28
DaveyDebian is so behind the times for PHP its not funny.05:28
bob2oh lordy05:28
egabert1. das AGP-Modul fr den Speichercontroller. Zu finden mit05:28
egabertlsmod | grep "_agp"05:28
bob2egabert: this is an english channel05:29
DaveyPHP 5 is production ready, 5.0.4 especially.05:29
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DaveyGNULinuxer: compile PHP from scratch05:29
DaveyAmaranth: !05:29
mindspinDavey this is arguable05:29
GNULinuxerDavey, okay05:29
Amaranthhey05:29
bob2anyway, #php-silliness05:29
egabertok how do i change in a german channel?05:29
Amaranthegabert: /join #ubuntu-de05:29
Daveymindspin: I'd wager I'm more qualified to decide though ;)05:29
bob2egabert: #ubuntu.de or -de05:29
mindspinI only know #kubuntu-de05:30
egabertthx05:30
DaveyGNULinuxer: http://davey.is-a-geek.com/info thats what I use :)05:30
DaveyGNULinuxer: though it requires a number of packages, just ./configure and apt-get install necessary packages till it finishes successfully :)05:30
stazzAnd the dhclient seems to remove the address from the loopback device too!05:30
bob2stazz: how are you running it?05:30
GNULinuxerDavey, fine05:30
bob2stazz: "dhclient" by itself does very unpelasent things05:30
stazzbob2: the very default05:30
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bob2stazz: so, don't run that05:31
bob2stazz: "sudo dhclient eth1" or whatever05:31
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mindspinDavey I do not want to discuss php here05:32
dennis_Hi, I am a newbie to linux. Could someone give me a pointer to a good walkthrough how to install/switch between different fonts? I am using FireFox and would like to be able to type in russian. I tried searching ubuntu forums and google but no luck.05:32
mindspinisn't there a language pack for russian on the firefox site?05:33
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Daveymindframe: thats fine, I'm working ;)05:33
dennis_I will take a look05:34
mindspinDavey you are not alone ;-)05:34
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DeffyHi, I successfully installed ubuntu and I went to install my wifi drivers, but hitting a snag05:34
DeffyI don't ever recall being asked to set a root password05:35
dennis_but is it firefox problem? What if I want to use russian in OpenOffice. Will I have to download additional packs?05:35
bob2Deffy: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo05:35
bob2Deffy: it explaiend this during the install05:35
dennis_Deffy: sudo passwd root05:35
ninwaDoes the base Ubuntu install have DRI support? Where do I begin to configure my card to use it? I checked the Wiki and there's no information on it, and I checked the DRI site but their information is on how to rebuild X.org with DRI support and I want to reserve that until I'm sure I have to.05:35
Deffythanks05:36
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mjrninwa, it does; what's your card?05:36
ninwaS3 Savage IX05:36
ninwaI checked the list, it's supported.05:36
mjrwell, dunno about that05:36
bob2ouch, savage05:36
bob2it's probably not worth spending too much time on DRI for it05:36
ninwahttp://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/S3Savage?action=highlight&value=CategoryHardware05:37
ninwaWhy? I want OpenGL support.05:37
bob2you have software opengl05:37
ChoubakaHm05:38
ChoubakaNo, dbus does not generate anything :/05:38
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Choubakait seems to almost work if I manually do /etc/init.d/dbus-1 restart05:38
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Choubakabut even then not always05:39
ninwaIt must not be functioning properly then because when I attempt to play a game called StepMania it reports that "Your system is reporting that direct rendering is not available.  Please obtain an updated driver from your video card manufacturer."05:39
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ninwaI wish the error was a little more specific, but that's what I get.05:39
Efwiswhats the command in terminal to remove an installed component?05:40
mjrapt-get remove05:40
Choubakabob2: dbus-monitor gives me this when I start it, but nothing else: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/7205:40
Efwisty05:40
ninwaAnyone have any direction they can point me in?05:40
bob2ninwa: try asking on the mailing list05:41
bob2Choubaka: odd05:41
Choubakabob2: indeed :/05:41
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ninwaAlright, thank you, I'll see if I can go to the developers of the game for support. I had assumed it was an issue with my setup, I still presume it is but thanks again.05:42
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anacronhello05:43
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bob2Choubaka: time to file a bug, I guess05:43
anacronhow can i watch windows media with linux, or can i?05:43
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bob2anacron: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto05:44
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anacronbob2: how is that going to help me?05:45
anacronif i need a codec05:45
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bob2er05:45
Amaranthanacron: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:45
bob2wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:45
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anacronok, looks better now :) tnx05:46
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wulfepuphey hi all05:47
ternary_digitHi everyone... Is possible to use KDE in ubuntu ?05:47
wulfepupternary_digit: yup...05:47
bob2ternary_digit: sure, install the kubuntu-desktop package05:47
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TatsterHi - I have a question....05:49
Invislol05:49
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ternary_digitbut can i alternate between gnome and kde?05:49
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TatsterIs there a way to use Windows GPO settings when using Ubuntu (Samba) as a PDC05:49
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Choubakahmm05:50
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fMit wehm Chate ich?05:50
ChoubakaIt does detect and mount the camera _if_ and when I manually restart dbus05:50
fsprichst du Deutsch?05:50
wulfepupf: please English only .. and you are chatting with an entire room of people.05:51
jind_ternary_digit, sure. Just install and the graphcical login program will let you choose to start whatever you choose05:51
jind_I have kde, gnome and xfce4 installed here. Works great05:51
ternary_digitfine!05:51
fTu parles francais?05:51
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pedro_f: hablas espaol  ?05:51
pedro_same thing, speak english please05:52
yaaar_workf; un peu05:52
ternary_digitshould i use apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?05:52
fNo05:52
bob2ternary_digit: use aptitude05:52
ternary_digitapt-get install kubuntu-desktop?05:52
wulfepupternary_digit: aptitude or synaptic.05:52
ternary_digitok05:52
fsPRICHT HIER JEMAND dEUTSCH05:52
magapt-get will work05:52
magflawlessly05:52
ternary_digitthanks everyone... i will try it!!!05:52
jind_"apt-get update && apt-get install kde" works great05:53
jind_Synaptic is just a frontend05:53
fTu parles almond?05:53
fHello05:53
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fhello05:53
bob2f: please stop it, or leave05:54
fseid ihr zfrieden mit ubuntu?05:54
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wulfepupjind_: true enough but aptitude and synaptic are easier to use, just in case one isn't sure of the exact name...05:54
pedro_is my idead or the X is fucked up on breezy ?05:55
pedro_s/idea/idead05:55
ivokspedro_: nothing is fcked up05:56
goye2czthe glutton for punishment is back again tryin to install the us122. I'm stuck trying to find an RPM. I'm running into broken links and am wondering if anyone knows of an alternative? http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/1419735/com/alsa-firmware-1.0.6-1.cvs.rhfc2.ccrma.i386.rpm.html05:56
ivokspedro_: it's under development05:56
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jind_wulfepup, sure. But still not a valid argument to use aptitude/synaptic over apt-get. No techical reason ;)05:56
ivokspedro_: smart people assume development things aren't much usable :)05:56
bob2pedro_: lots of things are broken in breezy05:56
fwadysase05:56
bob2pedro_: if you want a working system, don't use it05:56
pedro_ivoks: well is broken :-)05:56
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pedro_i have a lot of packages installed that are under development05:56
pedro_and they arent broken05:57
pedro_so..05:57
wulfepupAnywho ... time for my n00b question: If I needed to add "setpci -s 0:a.0 SUBORDINATE_BUS=0x0A" to my /etc/init.d/pcmcia where in the code would it go?05:57
pedro_im just asking :-)05:57
Funraiseryesterday i asked here if this http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/productdetails.aspx?pid=036 existed on linux, well it does and it's here http://linuxbiometrics.com/modules/news/05:57
bob2pedro_: yes, it is known that X is broken05:57
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bob2pedro_: the fix is in th BTS; if you want a reliable system, do not use breezy05:57
tandyanyone know how I can limit download/upload speeds for differnt users on same box05:57
seth_kalthough pedro_, there is a fix for the X problem on the forums if you really wish to pursue it05:57
pedro_bob2: yeah but i want to use the gnome development releases05:58
pedro_just for development05:58
pedro_so i guess im going to upgrade only that packages05:58
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pedro_thanks bob205:58
jind_I personally find apt-cache / apt-get easier and faster to use then their graphical counterparts :)05:58
Choubaka:((05:58
ChoubakaThis just isn't working.05:58
jind_Actually, I had forgotten they even existed05:59
jind_Does anybody know when xorg 6.9 is coming?05:59
wulfepupjind_: being new to Linux in general, I like using them to see what is available for easy dl and install...05:59
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tandyis there a way to throttle bandwidth for differnt users06:00
jind_wulfepup, chances are you will learn to appreciate the console tools for such things quite fast. But, sure - graphical tools are easy to use06:00
tandywhen i have someonel oggedo n and they downlaod something they use all the bandwidth06:01
ivokstandy: sure there is06:01
bob2tandy: trickle06:01
ivoksbut, AFAIK, there is no GUI tool for that06:01
Tatsterexit06:02
tandybob2 trickle?06:02
bob2tandy: yes06:02
ivokshm... trickle :)06:02
bob2if you have hostile users, tho, kill them06:02
tandyim just talkign about regular users06:02
zzorn_awayHi, is there some official packages of SUNs Java JDKs for Ubuntu?06:02
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bob2no06:02
ivokszzorn: no06:02
zzornokay06:02
bob2no one has official packages of Sun's JDK06:02
bob2because sun's license sucks06:02
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ivokslike for any other platform, you have to download sun't package06:02
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tandybob: tricle banwidth shaper?06:03
zzornI guess they can still be manually installed pretty easily.  Just a pity that they don't integrate into the directory structure.06:03
mhzhno73, ping?06:03
hno73mhz: Hi!06:04
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tandyivoks: is there anything elseb esides trickle ican ivnestigate06:04
caonexcan anybody tell me the meaning of: /sbin/init: 428 cannot open device console. And, Kernel Panic - not syncing: attempted to kill unit. I get that when i try to boot my kernel.06:04
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ivokstandy: QoS/Netfilter06:04
stazzWhy in some programs, such as xmms, the fonts are terribly small?06:04
ivokscaonex: udev problem06:05
ivokscaonex: did you upgrade from sarge?06:05
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goye2czI'm trying to install alsa firmware does anyone know how to translate these instructions? To utilitarian for me. http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/stable/multimedia/alsa-firmware.html Also I'm using gnome if that makes a difference.06:06
ivokscaonex: ah, that's your own kernel? i guess you didn't compile it right :)06:06
james__what do people use to edit mp3 tags? rythmbox doesnt see to support this?06:06
stazzjames__: kid3 :)06:06
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goye2czhondje: do you have time to help with some jibberish?06:09
james__Can I get a patch that will let me edit them in rythmbox?06:09
Amaranthjames__: tagtool or easytag06:09
Amaranthjames__: rhythmbox in CVS supports it06:09
james__CVS?06:09
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Amaranthjames__: that means the next version of rhythmbox will have it06:10
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james__ok, what do CVS actually stand for, anyway?06:10
chrissturmconcurrent versioning system06:10
james__thanks06:10
caonexivoks, no i did not. I installed ubuntu from scratch.06:11
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wulfepupbbiab06:11
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caonexivoks, that is not my own actually, that error i get when booting the one from ubuntu thta i had to reinstall for some conflicts06:11
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raptoidhelp me help me06:11
raptoidraptoid@ubuntu:~$ sudo -s -H06:11
raptoidraptoid is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.06:11
raptoidraptoid@ubuntu:~$ sudo -s06:11
raptoidraptoid is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.06:11
raptoidraptoid@ubuntu:~$06:11
raptoid?06:11
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raptoidhelp me06:12
sgbirchI am having trouble installing emacs21 from us.archive.ubuntu.com.  Synaptic indicates there is a MD5Sum mispatch.  Anyone else see this?06:12
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bob2sgbirch: /topic06:12
gnuyenHi guys, when I stick a USB key in it automounts06:12
pedro_sgbirch: see the topic06:12
sgbirchs/mispatch/mismatch/06:12
bob2bah06:12
razBest CD writting software under ubuntu?06:12
bob2raz: nautilus06:12
sgbirchduh ... thanks06:13
gnuyenbut when I stick my ihp-120 (iriver mp3 player) which is also a USB storage device06:13
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raptoidraptoid@ubuntu:~$ sudo -s -H06:13
raptoidraptoid is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.06:13
gnuyenit dosen't autmount06:13
raptoidhelp me ?06:13
xxenonis there a file in which I add startup iptables rules ?06:13
ChoubakaHm.06:13
gnuyenautomount06:13
ninwa'ello. I was told earlier that Ubuntu comes with DRI installed. I've done a little researched and it seems that it may've, but mine doesn't seem to be configured properly. xdriinfo says: "Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0""... Could I get some direction on how to fix this?06:13
gnuyenhow can I get it to automount and show an icon on the desktop06:13
lleberg_How much.. does a camel (the desert animal) cost?06:13
ChoubakaMy camera still doesn't automount, but I guess it's ok :P06:13
pedro_see you later06:13
bob2xxenon: /usr/share/doc/iptables/README.Debian06:13
bob2ninwa: yes, it doesn't include it for savage06:13
xxenonbob2 - thx06:13
gnuyenIt automounted in FC306:13
bob2lleberg_: #blah06:13
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ninwabob2, I doubt there's a package I can download for an instafix, should I download dri manually then? Their Wiki claims support for Savage06:14
gnuyenI have "Mount removable drives when hot plugged"06:14
gnuyenchecked06:14
gnuyenin side the removable drives and media preferences06:15
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Lafitte-bob2,  how do you get nautilas for burning ?06:15
razbob2, nautilus' a cd-writting software?!! :|06:15
bob2Lafitte-: put in a blank cd.  enjoy.06:15
bob2raz: yes06:15
zelurxunilquick question...im going through a Hoary install and am at the partitioner right now...i have a windows fat32 partition and 50mb for a /boot partition along with the / partition....which ones do i put the bootable flag on.../boot or the windows and / partition?06:15
bob2ninwa: no idea, I'd ask on the mailing list06:15
Lafitte-bob2,  mine opens gnomebaker06:15
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goye2czI'm about to scream here. any help for installing alsa firmware?06:16
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bob2ouch06:16
chaitat?hello world06:16
bob2goye2cz: try asking on the mailing list06:16
bob2since no one here seems to know06:16
bob2(and I'v never even heard of playing with sound card firmware)06:16
goye2czbob2: mailing list for alsa firmware?06:16
chaitati add second ram into my pc, bios recognised it but06:16
chaitatlinux doesn't06:16
chaitat???06:16
razbob2.. anything like nero for linux?06:16
bob2goye2cz: http://lists.ubuntu.com/06:16
bob2raz: you can buy nero for linux06:16
goye2czbob2: thx06:17
Lafitte-raz,  gnomebaker is like that06:17
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zelurxunildo you set the bootable flag on /boot or the partitions with OSes?06:17
bob2no06:17
bob2neither06:17
yaaar_workraz, actually, if you already own nero for windows, nero for linux is free. just download it and give it your windows license key06:18
holycowspeaking of sound cards ....06:18
bob2only windows cares06:18
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holycowmy issue last night with alsa pumping a high pitched noise into my speakers ...06:18
razyaaar, aighties.06:18
zelurxunilalright thanks06:18
holycowturned out to be a mixer issue related to mythtv installation06:18
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holycowafter installing myth, if i block signal input from the mic, the high pitch sound is produced06:18
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holycowif i unblock input from mic but mute it, it goes away06:19
holycowmaybe that will help someone if they run into the same issue06:19
Matthew_WHow do I get my OpenGL support to work?  I'm trying to play games using cedega, but... no OpenGL..06:19
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Nightcr8wgreetings06:20
Nightcr8whave a question06:20
Nightcr8whas anyone ran into a problem while installing gnome on a clean server?06:20
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Lafitte-bob2,  man   great tip    on the software06:21
Nightcr8wI am getting what seems to be a dependency problem while installing gnome-applets-data06:21
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Efwisis there a way to get my modem to be used as a fax machine while hooked up on eth0 for my net connection?06:22
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Nightcr8whas anyone experienced a problem while installing gnome with the app called gnome-applets-data????06:24
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Matthew_Wbob2: you still around here?06:24
chrissturmsomeone should port quicksilver to gnome06:25
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mjrEfwis, try hylafax06:25
Efwisit just sits there trying to talk to the modem continuously,06:26
anacronhey guys, how can i get my wlan work with ndiswrapper?06:27
Efwistried it for like 5 minutes06:27
sniffwhich card?06:27
Amaranthchrissturm: quicksilver? you mean someone should add autocomplete to Alt-F2? :)06:27
anacroni have an pci card (d-link dwl-510)06:27
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anacroni already downloaded those drivers and made that ndiswrapper i + inf thing06:28
sniffmodprobe06:28
anacronmodprobe?06:28
sniffmodprobe ndiswrapper06:28
bolshheya! I got a problem with gnome when I upgraded to 2.6.11.11, seems like the dhclient is causing it to break, anyone heard about this ?06:28
debian_is ubuntuforums.org timing out for anyone else when they try and visit it?06:28
sniffthan it should work d-link cards are good supported06:29
Efwisi'll try hylafax again, but when I did the scan modem it said something about needing kernel headers06:29
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anacronsniff: what next?06:29
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chrissturmAmaranth, that would be a good start06:29
anacronsniff: oh nothing, i found out already06:29
ShachafHas anybody else here had trouble getting Ubuntu working with an eepro100?06:29
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makavelialright guys i have a situation i backed up my linux patition using acronis true image i was duall booting windows xp and i had a bootsect.lnx where i used the dd command to us nt's boot loader to boot linux now i had to zero out my hard drive and i am currently re-installing the only problem is that after i have restored the linux partition the bootsect.lnx won't work is there anyway to use a live cd to get into gnome so that i 06:30
sniffdoes the power led work?06:30
StuttergartIs it just me or are the download archives completely screwed right now?06:30
goye2czwhat does it mean when I try to install something and it says no acceptable c compiler found?06:30
StuttergartI'm getting MD5 mismatches on almost everything.06:30
mjrStuttergart, I hear the us mirror is borken06:31
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mjrStuttergart, see topic06:31
GNULinuxerwhich package contains db2html ?06:31
wulfe_afkStuttergart: check the /topic ?06:31
Nightcr8wis there a problem installing gnome-applets-data when installing gnome ???06:31
naliothStuttergart: open your sources.list and remove the us. part of us.archive.etc06:31
Stuttergartic06:31
naliothStuttergart: on all lines with us.whatever06:31
Stuttergartnot sure how I overlooked that in the topic06:32
makaveli?06:32
mjrGNULinuxer, dunno, but you can use apt-file to search (install it first)06:32
GNULinuxermjr, fine06:32
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PhantomFreakDoes the mwave modem work out of the box?06:34
albackerguys can someone help me here ? : http://rafb.net/paste/results/mOa0ic54.html06:34
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thenukealbacker: well, did you install mplayer without apt-get?06:36
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albackerthenuke, i dont remember. what if i have installed it from a deb package ?06:37
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justinalbacker: use aptitude to look at your installed packages. the name isn't exactly 'mplayer'06:37
thenukeif you had, apt-get should know it06:37
Efwisfor faxsetup, how do I go about finding out what port my modem is on in Ubuntu?06:37
albackerjustin, what is it ?06:38
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thenukeyup, try aptiude from console or synaptic06:38
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justinalbacker: uh, look?06:38
ivoksEfwis: /dev/modem is good choice :)06:38
Efwisty06:38
albackerjustin, where ?06:38
^egg^po06:38
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^egg^hi06:39
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hacy cpu use is 100% when I resize a window...Why?I'm using Gnome 2.1006:40
hac*My06:40
albackerdoes anyone know how to delete packages installed with dpkg ?06:40
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ninwacant you apt-get remove pkg_name ?06:41
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justinalbacker: 12:37 < justin> albacker: use aptitude to look at your installed packages. the name isn't exactly 'mplayer'06:41
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albackerjustin, what is it than ?06:41
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justinalbacker: or synaptic, or even dpkg. pick one and look. stop guessing06:41
^egg^hac:  no06:41
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Efwiswhats this? local identification string???, sorry I'm a noob at Linux06:41
justinalbacker: why don't you LOOK06:41
albackerroot@galaxy:/home/eni # dpkg -r mplayer06:42
albackerdpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove mplayer which isn't installed.06:42
^egg^Efwis:  what string?06:42
Matthew_WHey - Do any of you know any program that would allow me to edit my cell phone through linux?  Or drivers for LG phones?  Or if they're supported etc.06:42
justinalbacker: use aptitude to look at your installed packages. the name isn't exactly 'mplayer'06:42
justinalbacker: or synaptic, or even dpkg. pick one and look. stop guessing06:42
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Efwis^egg^, its says "Local identification string (for TSI/CIG) ["NothingSetup"] ?06:43
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albackerok justin thanks a lot06:43
^egg^Efwis:  o.o06:43
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anacronyeah i got my wlan working <306:44
anacron*dancing*06:44
^egg^...06:44
^egg^idiot06:44
justinEfwis: are you trying to set up faxing06:45
dbernar1s\06:45
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Efwisyes06:45
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justinEfwis: press enter or make up something then06:46
Efwisk06:46
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raptoidhi06:47
raptoidguyz..06:47
raptoidhelp me pls..06:47
^egg^hi06:47
^egg^what?06:47
Matthew_Wjustin: as you seem to be the only person responding, I suppose I'll have to ask you - what on Earth is wrong with my serial/com ports... I have a cable for my phone (usb to serial) and when I try to detect it, it says that there are no com ports on my computer, but.. I'm looking at them06:47
raptoidraptoid@ubuntu:/home$ sudo -s06:47
raptoidraptoid is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.06:47
raptoid?06:47
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raptoidraptoid@ubuntu:/home$ sudo -s -H06:48
raptoidraptoid is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.06:48
raptoid?06:48
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Matthew_Wraptoid: what are you trying to do?06:48
dbernar1you are not in the sudoers file, as it says.06:48
raptoidi dont no06:48
dbernar1raptoid do you have anyh other users on the comp?06:48
dbernar1hurry hurry06:49
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dbernar1:P06:49
^egg^raptoid:  &$%^#$#$$#%^^%^%^%$^$%^%$^%06:49
raptoid1 mn.06:49
dbernar1^egg^ what the dealy, yo?06:49
raptoidsorry06:50
dbernar1raptoid other users on the comp?06:50
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newbie^hi dudes06:50
dbernar1I dont have lots of time, please hurry06:50
ShachafHas anybody else here had trouble getting Ubuntu working with an eepro100?06:50
Matthew_Wraptoid:  what distro are you using?06:51
Matthew_Wraptoid:  ubuntu or kubuntu06:51
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raptoidubuntu06:51
^egg^lol06:51
newbie^i cant be root06:51
Matthew_Wraptoid:  ok, that happens to a lot of people under kubuntu, jw.06:51
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newbie^how can i fix it Matthew_W?06:51
newbie^help me06:51
Matthew_Wnewbie^:  you can't generally be root in ubuntu unless you set it up.  Just use sudo06:51
^egg^543 p now06:51
tswShachaf: worked great for me, I just had to check that it is the only device using its irq in bios06:51
newbie^i ll give you sweet06:51
newbie^how can i use sudo?06:52
makavelidoes anyone know how to get a bootsect.lnx from your linux to your windows without using a floppy06:52
naliothnewbie^: please be more specific06:52
newbie^can i give an example please.06:52
Matthew_Wnewbie^:  example  -- sudo dpkg -i foo06:52
newbie^= - (06:52
makavelior does anyone know how to get into ubuntu system using a live cd?06:52
Matthew_Wnewbie^:  sudo = super-user do  (or, perform as root.)  So, whatever you want to do, just hit sudo.06:52
naliothnewbie^: "sudo <command goes here>"06:52
dr_willismakaveli,  hmm to do what exactly?06:52
newbie^hmm06:52
newbie^how can i create sudo file?=06:52
anacronwhat is sudo file? :D06:52
Shachaftsw: This works in other distributions and in Windows.06:53
naliothnewbie^: what do you mean?06:53
Matthew_Wnewbie^: alternately, try     sudo -s    to switch to root temporarily06:53
mindspinjust type sudo vi and vi opens06:53
Shachaftsw: I tried loading eepro100, e100, and both.06:53
newbie^i want to delete i directory06:53
Matthew_Wnewbie^:  also, in gnome, you can just hit applications, system tools, root terminal.06:53
newbie^as sudo06:53
Shachaftsw: DHCP and static IP.06:53
newbie^how can i do that06:53
makavelidr_willis: i had to zero out my hard drive and now i am trying to restore the linux backup that i made the only thing is after restored the old bootsect.lnx doesn't work no more and i need to make a new one06:53
Shachaftsw: Nothing works.06:53
Matthew_Wnewbie^:  sudo rmdir /foo/foo06:53
tswShachaf: it should load just fine all by itself. check that no other device uses same irq06:53
newbie^okay06:53
mindspinor sudo whateverprogramyouwannastert and whateverprogramyouwannastert starts06:53
dr_willismakaveli,  you can boot the live cd.. mount the existing partons and use 'chroot' -  i belve the ubuntu wiki's have some details on restoreing the boot loader.06:54
Shachaftsw: It didn't get detected during the installation either.06:54
makavelidr_willis: also i don't know how to do that other than getting into gnome from a live cd and then e-mailing it to myself and then opening it in windows06:54
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makavelidr_willis: can i get into gnome so that i can e-mail myself the bootsect.lnx from a live cd?06:54
naliothnewbie^: you don't need 'sudo' to delete a directory06:54
ryan_anyone know when the 7664 nvidia drivers will be added into the rep06:55
mindspinexcept its a system directory06:55
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dr_willismakaveli,  you can use a live cd and mount the existing partions then  do whateer you need to with them perhaps. i got no idea what you mean by bootsect.lnx really06:55
caonexcan anybody tell me the meaning of: /sbin/init: 428 cannot open device console. And, Kernel Panic - not syncing: attempted to kill unit. I get that when i try to boot my kernel.06:56
mindspinnewbie rm -R if the directory is not empty06:56
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Fabianhello everybody06:57
Matthew_WHiya06:57
^egg^hello06:57
^egg^cya06:57
FabianI'm very new to linux, so can anyone help me mounting my second windows partition under linux?06:57
naliothFabian: your SECOND win partition?06:58
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EfwisI keep getting "Unable to deduce DTE-DCE speed; check that you are using the06:58
Efwiscorrect device and/or that your modem is setup properly."06:58
ryan_try mount /dev/harddrive as shown in dev -t filesystem type /mount point06:58
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mindspinEfwis is it a winmodem?06:59
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newbie^how can i myself to sudoers file06:59
newbie^?06:59
newbie^= - ( i cant use sudo06:59
EfwisI believe it is, been a while since I put it in, like when I built the box 2 years ago06:59
mindspinwhy do you want that ?06:59
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Fabiannalioth, yep. Got the following: 1. partion: NTFS, this is where XP is installed, 2. partition FAT 32 where I got all my documents music, movies and stuff, 3. partition swap, 4. partition ext306:59
mindspinnewbie IC07:00
newbie^what s IC07:00
newbie^mindframe07:00
mindspini se07:00
naliothFabian: so this is the FIRST partition you want to mount under linux, right?07:00
mindspinsee07:00
newbie^can u tell me please if u have a little time07:00
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newbie^i ll give you a sweet07:00
newbie^= - (07:01
Fabiannalioth, no, i want to mount the second one with my documents, so i can listen to music and write stuff both in linux and windows07:01
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naliothFabian: ask uncle google "mount windows partition linux fstab"07:01
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naliothFabian: you will get your answer there07:01
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naliothFabian: i unfortunately don't run intel, so i cant help you firsthand07:02
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goye2czcan someone help me with syntax? I need to figure out what to place in a sudo command in place of /path/to07:04
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bodaciousbhow long does it take for new drivers to hit the apt database?07:04
ryan_sudo mount /dev/hdb2 -t fat32 /mnt/windows  just make sure you sudo nkdir windows first07:04
naliothgoye2cz: what are you trying to do?07:05
naliothryan_: mind the typos07:05
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goye2cznalioth: I'm trying to install some drivers...07:05
rekaanyone used gparted/qtparted?07:06
goye2cznalitoh: the command I'm tryign to exeecute is: sudo fxload -s /path/to/ld2-ezusb.hex -I /usr/share/alsa/firmware/usx2yloader/us122fw.ihx -D /proc/bus/usb/001/00507:06
Funraiserreka, yes07:06
goye2cznalioth: I need to replac path/to with where my file is loccated. I know the location.07:07
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naliothgoye2cz: if you know where the file is, how can you not know the path?07:07
naliothreka: parted user here, whassup?07:07
rekaFunraiser: i'm just trialling it atm.  i'd like to make a new partition but can't seem to be able to.  the new partition option is greyed out and there are padlocks next to the partition labels.  i assume this means i can't make changes.07:08
naliothreka: r u root?07:08
rekanalioth: er, no.07:08
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naliothreka: there ya go, use "sudo"07:08
goye2cznalioth: it's not that I don't know the path, I'm jsut not having success replacing the path/to with something it will accept.07:08
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naliothgoye2cz: WHERE exactly is the file?07:08
naliothreka: no more gray skies, er buttons07:09
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rekanalioth: tried it now... same thing, can't seem to change it.07:09
goye2czit's in Desktop/usx2y-fw-0.1b07:09
naliothreka that is weird07:09
wulfe_afkbbiab07:09
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naliothgoye2cz: so use ~/Desktop/filename07:09
goye2cznalioth: it's in Desktop/usx2y-fw-0.1b07:09
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goye2cznalioth: will try.07:10
naliothreka: its very easy to do07:10
rekanalioth: you sell yourself short. :-)07:10
naliothreka so ya ran 'sudo qtparted" and still have no play. have you tried to make some room (or are all changeable elements unavailable)?07:10
rekahang on, i'll post a screenshot07:11
Fabiangot a question about /etc/networks/interfaces: there is written the following: "mapping hotplug \n script grep\n map eth0" where \n is a new line. What does this entry mean???07:11
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goye2cznalioth: I wonder if I have other problems. It keeps telling me unable to open for input.07:12
naliothgoye2cz: are you in a terminal?07:12
goye2czyes07:12
ttrocalHello, I was wondering if during the Hoary installation you can specify to keep the home directory of your old Linux install, as I would like to.  Can you?07:13
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rekanalioth: http://tinypic.com/5xit1u07:13
naliothgoye2cz: type "file ~/Desktop/nameOfFile"07:13
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Funraiserreka, if u select the partition the resize button doesn't appear?07:14
naliothreka: ya need really quick fingers07:14
goye2cznalioth: shell archive or script for antique kernel text07:14
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naliothgoye2cz: how OLD is the file/what are you trying to do?07:15
rekaFunraiser: no, if i tight-click, everything except unmount is greyed-out07:15
reka*right-click rather :-)07:15
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goye2cznalioth: I'm installing drivers for my tascam us122, following directions on the ubuntu forum. will try to check age of file...07:16
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Funraiserreka, how many hard drive do u have?07:16
rekaone07:16
goye2cznalioth: almost a year exactly07:16
lleberg_I have a small problem..07:16
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rekalleberg: ask away07:17
Funraiserreka, your computer is AMD?07:17
naliothgoye2cz: type "ls -l ~/Desktop/NameOfFile" and paste the line it gives you here07:17
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FunraiserAMD64?07:17
rekaFunraiser: intel p407:17
manwelhello, i am running ubuntu 5.04 on a nx6110 (HP-compaq laptop) , all works out of the box except i cant reboot, it just hangs, what should/could i try ?07:17
lleberg_If i have a firefox window on workdesk 1, and have the workdesk 2 active.. and clicks on a link on my desktop, it opends in a new tab.. in the firefox on workdesk 1!07:17
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stjepanhi from xfce :)07:17
naliothmanwel: how long have you waited for it to reboot?07:18
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manwelwell i have already waited for 10 minuts..07:18
lleberg_I can start a separate firefox on that workdesk07:18
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manweli guess its suffiscient;p07:18
lleberg_but from links it opens in a new tab07:19
goye2cznalioth: -rw-r--r--  1 goye2cz goye2cz 986 2004-06-10 22:35 /home/goye2cz/Desktop/ld2-ezusb.hex07:19
naliothmanwel: although i don't advise straight-out killing a linux machine, you may get tired of waiting07:19
rekaFunraiser: any other ideas?07:19
Funraiserreka, did u have any root problems before?07:19
naliothanyone know if a .hex is sposed to be executable?07:19
rekaFunraiser: what do you mean?07:19
naliothgoye2cz: are you trying to execute the file?07:19
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Matthew_Wnail:  dont think.07:20
goye2cznalioth: do you want to see the command I'm trying to run on it?07:20
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manwelIn fact, i have read that i should add reboot=b to the kernel command line but as i am quite new to linux, i dont understand what it means very well :(07:20
Funraiserreka, like an app that doesn't start because it asks for root privileges?07:20
goye2cznalioth: sudo fxload -s /~Desktop/ld2-ezusb.hex -I /usr/share/alsa/firmware/usx2yloader/us122fw.ihx -D /proc/bus/usb/001/00207:20
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lleberg_So..07:21
rekaFunraiser: nope.07:21
Funraiserreka, like synaptic..07:21
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rekanope07:21
Matthew_WI need help with serial port operations.07:21
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lleberg_How do i get a starter.. to opend a NEW firefox window on the active workdesk, and link to and url?07:21
Matthew_WMy comp doesn't seem to think I have them.07:22
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Funraiserreka, well what I would do is I would use partition magic on windows07:22
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Funraiserreka, i mean when nothing else works...07:23
rekaFunraiser: ah. not an option for me i'm afraid ... don't have it.07:23
Funraiserreka, don't have partition magic?07:23
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rekanope, never needed it.07:23
Funraiserreka, or windows?07:23
Funraiseroh07:23
naliothgoye2cz: ok i'm not real sure what you are trying to do. and i dont want to advise you ignorantly07:23
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goye2cznalioth: alright, understood07:24
CrAzyLaRvEhello :)07:24
rekaFunraiser: hmm, gparted tells me the disktype is msdos.  could this be the prob.?07:24
naliothreka: do you have a ubuntu live cd (or knoppix)?07:24
goye2cznalioth: thanks anyway07:24
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lleberg_Why does xmms take 7.5% of my cpu power? =)07:24
Matthew_WI'm trying to use BitPim to access my cell phone, the problem is, it seems to say I have no USB/serial ports, help!07:24
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naliothlleberg_: its not written well?07:24
anacronwhat's a light tv-card software which works with hauppauge's cards?07:24
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rekanalioth: warty livecd (i'm on hoary), and an outdated knoppix cd.  heh.07:25
thundrcleezelleberg, because you have a 75 mhz pc?07:25
Funraiserreka, i don't think so07:25
wijnandwhenever i try to play something (xvid/divx) with mplayer, it "freezes" on me -- is this a common thing with ootb mplayer in ubuntu?07:26
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Matthew_Wwijnand:  you need to change the video encoder to something that is supported on your system.  Go into mplayer preferences and look at output, under video.07:26
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Fabiannalioth, got it mounted, thanks! Is there a problem writing on FAT32?07:27
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Matthew_Wwijnand: I had a similar problem.07:27
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wijnandMatthew_W: you are using the gui, i assume? :)07:27
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wijnandi'll have a look, thanks07:27
Matthew_Wwijnand: yup.07:27
Matthew_WNo problem.07:27
Matthew_Wwijnand:  Another thing, the sound may be bugged, that also happens a lot.  Come back if that doesn't work, run it in verbose, and we'll see what else is going wrong.07:28
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Bickyhello07:28
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Bickycan somebody help me ?07:29
wijnandMatthew_W: should i just compile it myself?07:29
Matthew_WIf you're on ubuntu, didn't you install it from synaptic?07:29
mindspinbicky ask07:29
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BickyI just tried to start-up the life cd from ubuntu 5.0407:30
Bickyit said: your computer does not support long mode07:30
Fabianis that the right option to be able to read and write on a FAT 32 partition: "/dev/hda5   /home/daten   vfat     auto, uid=1000,git=1000 0 0"07:30
Matthew_Wwijnand:  did you install it from synaptic..?07:30
Bickybut I've a AMD athlon 64 processor and it was the 64-bit version07:30
Bickywhat am I doing wrong ?07:31
mindspinno clue on 64-bit stuff sorry07:31
naliothFabian: only NTFS writing is unstable atm07:31
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Matthew_WBicky:  try installing the i386 regular old non 64 bit version.07:31
Matthew_WBicky:  errr.... booting from it.07:32
Bickyit keep stopping while loading07:32
Fabiannalioth, so that line is correct for writing on FAT 32? (that line's in /etc/fstab)07:32
naliothFabian: does it allow you to write?07:32
HappyFoolFabian: you might want to be careful with spaces in that line07:32
Matthew_WBicky:  Do all options stop?  Like, do they all hang, or just the 64 bit?07:32
caonexhow can i install ubuntu from a .iso in a partition other than the root will be one?07:32
caonexdo i need a diskette?07:32
wijnandMatthew_W: i did, and it's working now -- i think it was because it was using alsa rather than ESD, as changing video output back to default didn't seem to matter -- anyway it's working now, thanks :)07:32
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Matthew_Wwijnand:  no problem -- the sound is harder to fix, so that's good.07:33
wijnandyeah07:33
HappyFoolFabian: also, is /home/daten your home directory ? I really wouldn't mount it there07:33
Bickymatthew: dont know, it just stops, then i can't do anything anymore07:33
naliothFabian: like HappyFool said, take out the space tween the auto, and uid07:33
Matthew_Wmindspin:  hey -- do you know anything about configuring USB / Serial ports X_X07:33
HappyFoolFabian: i'd mount it at /media/windows, or maybe /mnt/windows07:33
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FabianHappyFool, there is no space  between auto and uid. The other spaces are set to match the lines above07:33
Matthew_WBicky:  hrm, have you passed any special options to the kernel at boot? (you can do that with this live cd right..? lol )07:34
naliothFabian: yes, you need a nother mount point07:34
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naliothFabian: i recommend /mnt/whatever_U_want_2_call_it07:34
Fabiannalioth, why do I need another mount point? what is the problem?07:34
naliothFabian: then symlink it to your $homedir07:34
naliothFabian: if you run that line, you'll make your win partition your home directory in linux (nad you will be in deep doodoo)07:35
Bickyyes I've tried the special options07:35
trillianHi, relatively simple question: Is Ubuntu supposed to come with a c compiler?  I'm trying to install some program packages but the system is having no luck detecting cc or gcc or anything.07:35
Fabiannalioth, ??? I don't make it my homedirectory!? My home directory is /home07:35
naliothtrillian: install "build-essential"07:35
mindspinMatthew_W sorry, no, hardware isnt my thing ;-)07:36
naliothFabian: your home dir is /home/username (is your user name daten?07:36
Fabiantrillian, no, not be default, as i experienced07:36
trilliannalioth: Thanks. What is it?07:36
Fabiannalioth, no, it's fabian so /home/fabian07:36
naliothtrillian: is a metapkg with gnu c compiler, and other stuff you need to build things07:36
naliothFabian: then you gave your box another user home directory, which is still not too good07:37
Fabianalright07:37
naliothFabian: change the /home/daten to /mnt/whatever and then symlink /mnt/whatever into your homedir07:37
trilliannalioth: Thank you. I'll try it right now.07:37
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Bickythis is quite a busy channel07:37
HappyFoolFabian: (in your fstab line) what's the 'auto' option in field 4 for ? Did you maybe mean noauto? I've skimmed the man pages but can't find a reference to it07:38
naliothreka: need to borrow a hammer to make some space on that drive?07:38
naliothHappyFool: auto means mount when the machine starts, noauto means you have to issue "mount whatever/whatever"07:38
HappyFoolnalioth: hrm. ok, man fstab only has noauto07:38
rekanalioth: ah.  so *that's* the problem then?  no space?07:39
FabianHappyFool, don't know anything about those options. Found them on http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions07:39
naliothreka: idk. r u out of space?07:39
HappyFoolFabian: ok, seems all right. i think 'auto' might be the default, but i guess having it will do no harm07:40
Fabianok07:40
rekanalioth: well, the partitions use all the drive.  is that what you mean?07:40
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naliothreka: not bein in your shoes (or vnc'd into your machine, i have no clue why you cant play with parted)07:40
goye2czanyone here have success installing a tascam us122 with ubuntu?07:40
naliothHappyFool: just saves having to issue "mount /path/to/whatever" by hand every time07:41
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TheSquireHey guys07:41
HappyFoolnalioth: isn't 'auto' implicit ?07:41
TheSquireI have a question07:41
mindspinreka you can get information on your harddrives by using the command du07:41
makaveli0129does anyone know where i can get a fairly small debian based live cd?07:41
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mindspindu = disk usage07:41
naliothHappyFool: 'noauto' is the default07:42
TheSquireis ubuntu a good distro for kinda newbies? I've used fc2 before...07:42
naliothmakaveli0129: damnsmalllinux.org07:42
makaveli0129thank you07:42
ryan_re: gparted/qparted, I had the same problem and  thought a google search stated that neither could resize an active partition/drive.  Must be unmounted07:42
naliothTheSquire: its the best for newbies07:42
HappyFoolnalioth: you sure? ;) cos i have a line like this: '/dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    ro,umask=000    0       0' and my ntfs partition is always mounted on boot07:42
TheSquirenalioth: how so?07:42
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Fabiangotta reboot. cu later07:42
naliothreka: see what ryan sed, and pull out your liveCD07:42
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trillianTheSquire: I just installed Ubuntu about 2 hours ago and I have never used linux in my life. I like it.  It's not hard.07:43
naliothHappyFool: not sure, but i don't mess with NTFS at all07:43
rekathanks ryan_07:43
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ryan_np07:43
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HappyFoolnalioth: nothing to do with ntfs. i mean the auto/noauto thing07:43
xnoffhey I've got a prob07:43
Rockett17nice job trillian07:43
naliothHappyFool: and i havent owned a x86 box in over 3 years, so was helpin from memory07:43
Rockett17welcome to the nix world07:43
TheSquiretrillian: cool, so the default installation is pretty easy and all?07:43
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xnoffI would like to install something, but I don't have gcc set up07:43
rekaxnoff: install buld-essentail07:44
naliothHappyFool: i'm not all that deep into what magic the distro does in the absense of variables07:44
Rockett17apt-get install gcc07:44
HappyFoolnalioth: check 'man mount' under the '-a' option. i think 'auto' is the default, unless vfat is special07:44
reka*buld-essential07:44
xnoffactually it gives me a $PATH error when I ./configure07:44
trillianTheSquire: Yes. There's nothing to it.  You put in the install disk (the ONE SINGLE install disk...yes) and follow the instructions on screen.07:44
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ShachafHas eepro100 really worked for everybody here out of the box?07:44
mindspinxnoff try installing binarys from the repositorie via apt-get07:44
ShachafI can't get it to work at all, DHCP or static, eepro100 or e100.07:44
TheSquiretrillian: sweet! how's package managment? pretty easy?07:44
trillianTheSquire: I am a computer science major, but I wouldn't have to be.07:45
naliothxnoff: the package you need is "build-essential"07:45
trillianTheSquire: It's very straightforward.07:45
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xnoffthanks guys07:45
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naliothTheSquire: pkg mgmt is debian, so YES its easy07:45
naliothg2g07:45
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TheSquirenalioth: debian is apt, right?07:45
Rockett17Debian rocks your socks.. i'll never got back to RedHat package management07:45
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TheSquireya thats what i heard, liked it a lot better than rpm on fc07:46
jamesmdebian made apt07:46
TheSquireright07:46
Rockett17thus it runs better than apt-for-rpm07:46
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xnoffwait how do I install build-essential07:46
TheSquiredo you guys know anything about gentoo?07:46
TheSquireheard thats pretty easy, too07:47
mindspinsudo apt-get install build-essentials07:47
mindspinoops  minus s07:47
HappyFoolTheSquire: i heard it helps if you like waiting for compiles to finish ;)07:47
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mindspinbut why do want compile programs yerself while not knowing about package management?07:48
xnoffok, also I was told to uncomment universe lines in sources.list, and I think there is a command to update my apt, what is that?07:48
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chombeeCan anyone tell me how to mount this USB hard-drive enclosure? I can't figure out which device to fdisk or mount. Here is the output of tail /var/log/messages as I turned the device on and off a couple of times: Jun 13 13:28:53 localhost kernel: Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...07:48
chombeeJun 13 13:28:53 localhost kernel: scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices07:48
chombeeJun 13 13:28:53 localhost kernel: usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage07:48
chombeeJun 13 13:28:53 localhost kernel: USB Mass Storage support registered.07:48
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chombeeJun 13 13:28:53 localhost usb.agent[8612] :      usb-storage: loaded successfullyJun 13 13:31:00 localhost kernel: usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 207:48
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chombeeJun 13 13:31:38 localhost kernel: usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 307:48
chombeeJun 13 13:31:38 localhost kernel: scsi1 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices07:48
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HappyFoolxnoff: sudo apt-get update07:48
chombeeJun 13 13:31:39 localhost usb.agent[8996] :      usb-storage: already loaded07:48
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chombeeJun 13 13:37:30 localhost kernel: usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 307:48
chombee:07:48
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reka!flood07:48
ubotuflood is, like, Head for the hills the flood has come! please use http://pastebin.com , http://ubuntu.pastebin.com or #flood here on freenode.07:48
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HappyFoolchombee: please don't paste so much stuff07:48
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Rockett17nice split07:49
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xnoffthanks07:49
rekanetsplit?07:49
tuxiehello. How d07:49
HappyFoolheh. course flooding don't matter if there's a netsplit ;)07:49
chombeeHappyFool - sorry. I didn't realise it would space it out so much07:49
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Fabianre07:49
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TheSquirehappyfool: so gentoo is really slow?07:49
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chombeeSo anyway - it looks like it loaded to.. what device? uhci_hcd?07:49
HappyFoolTheSquire: i've never tried. i imagine that once everything is actually compiled, it's pretty fast ;)07:50
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TheSquirehappyfool: the 'update everything with one command' thing sounds really good tho, but thats what apt is for, too, right?07:50
Rockett17to install it takes an eon.. everything comiled from source07:50
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ShachafTheSquire: It's not slow for me.07:50
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FabianHappyFool, alright, got it mounted to /mnt/daten So how do I create that symlink now, that i got a directory in /home/username ???07:50
schlomoHi07:50
mindspinTheSquire you have to compile everything yourself07:50
TheSquireoh okay07:50
anacronhello schlomo07:50
ShachafTheSquire: You can use binary packages wtih Gentoo, if you really want to.07:50
schlomodoes someone arrive to get his wifi card worky ?07:50
TheSquireis it a good learning exp?07:50
schlomoanacron : hi07:50
Fabianschlomo, yes, just did it!07:50
anacronschlomo: i did :)07:50
HappyFoolFabian: ln -s /mnt/daten /home/fabian/windowsmount07:50
Rockett17howver if ur gonna compile the whole bloody os.. u may as well continue compiling07:50
anacronFabian: :D me too! just an hour ago07:50
schlomoespecially a intel ipw2200 ?07:51
schlomo:)07:51
anacronbells don't ring on that one07:51
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eazel7hi ppl07:51
TheSquirerockett17: true...dont really want that, just if i really feel like it07:51
eazel7I need to install a ubuntu by bootstrapping, how can I do with the basedebs.tar?07:51
makaveli0129i have a question: what kernel does the ubuntu cd use? For instance i want to set root as root=/dev/hdc2 in the boot parameter but what kernel would i put before that?07:52
schlomoanacron :  using the ubuntu network tool ?07:52
BoD_SWAThow can I create a symlink for a device (with udev stopped)? So that I may manually symlink my CD/DVD drive etc. ?07:52
Fabianschlomo, sorry, hat realtek07:52
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Rockett17personally I never have the time to compile things from source when I can just apt-get them07:52
goye2czis there a checksum program included when I install ubuntu?07:52
Rockett17unless it's apache07:53
Fabianschlomo, just try to google! Something like: yourwlanchip wlan ubuntu, or similar07:53
makaveli0129?07:53
Rockett17which I always compile out of habit07:53
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HappyFoolmakaveli0129: wouldn't it be easier to edit grub's /boot/grub/menu.lst ?07:53
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schlomoFabian : you configure it using network tool from ubuntu ?07:53
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makaveli0129happyfool: no i tried that i need to use ubuntu07:53
makaveli0129cd07:53
Arakn0hello , i've got a laptop but it has its CD-ROM and floppy-disk broken....and i want to install ubuntu...can i install it from using ethernet??? iit has windows 98 installed.07:53
goohello. How can I get the kde-bluetooth package on ubuntu?07:53
Fabianschlomo, no, i did it using a wiki page ;)07:53
makaveli0129happyfool: do u know the kernel image?07:53
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chombeeWhich device should I be looking at after turning on a USB enclosure? /var/log/messages seems to say it setup the device successfully, but I can't see the device name07:54
HappyFoolmakaveli0129: oh, i see07:54
HappyFoolmakaveli0129: no, sorry07:54
HappyFoolmakaveli0129: what are you trying to do ?07:54
schlomoFabian : which one ?07:54
rekaArakn0: you're making things harder for yourself, aren't you? :-)07:54
Fabianschlomo, what is the manufacturer of your wlan chip?07:54
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dr_willischombee,  check 'dmesg' output, or 'fdisk -l'07:54
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mariuszhi!, i'd like to use wdm as display manager together with icewm, now the question: where should i put things which suppose to autostart together with X session ? (help!)07:54
TheSquirerockett17: the problem i had with packages in fc2 was that it took them forever to get an updated gaim package, so I ended up compiling it myself. hows the repository managed/updated?07:54
makaveli0129happyfool: i need to boot into my ubuntu environment without a bootloader i just got done restoring a backup of the system after zeroing out my harddrive07:54
justinmariusz: ~/.xsession07:55
scotthanyone here with apache2 and suexec experience?  I need some help figuring out how to tell it the proper docroot07:55
HappyFoolmakaveli0129: can't you perhaps use chroot ?07:55
mariuszjustin: is there a global config file for it?07:55
schlomoFabian : ipw2200 module07:55
schlomoFabian : intel07:55
Arakn0well...i dint choose07:55
makaveli0129happyfool: how would i do that?07:55
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HappyFoolmakaveli0129: well, first you need to get to a command prompt after booting off the CD07:56
Pop_pa_FrEaKwell they finally released FC407:56
HappyFoolmakaveli0129: i guess you can just use the live cd, that should work07:56
makaveli0129happyfool: how would i boot off the cd07:56
chombee"new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2" - is uhci_hcd the device name?07:56
makaveli0129happyfool: i don't have a debian live cd all i have is gentoo and i already that one and it don't work07:56
justinmariusz: depends on what you are trying to do07:56
Fabianschlomo, a pcmcia or inbuilt?07:56
HappyFoolmakaveli0129: so you don't have any ubuntu cd's ?07:57
anacronschlomo is such a rude guy :(07:57
anacronfirst he asks me, and then won't even listen07:57
makaveli0129happyfool:i have the ubuntu install cd and that is it07:57
mariuszjustin: LOL :) I'd like to start gkrellm and rox as a Desktop for every user that logs in :>07:57
anacronwell that's not my problem, i'll go back to do some stuff ->07:57
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schlomoFabian : inbuilt07:57
dr_willischombee,  mine prints out a message like --> SCSI device sdh: 490234752 512-byte hdwr07:57
schlomoanacron : ??07:57
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makaveli0129happyfool: what would be the boot parameter to get into a command line?07:58
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goye2czhow do I do a checksum in ubuntu?07:58
dr_willischombee,  where sdh is the drives name, so sdh1 would be the first parthion07:58
anacronschlomo: you asked me, and when i answered you won't even listen07:58
mjrgoye2cz, md5sum or sha1sum, for example07:58
justinmariusz: you can change the default window manager/session manager with update-alternatives, and add a file in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ for gkrellm07:58
magoganyone got DR17 goin?07:58
anacronschlomo: check your private msgs07:58
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Fabianschlomo, try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2662307:58
schlomoanacron : sorry didn't see07:58
goye2czmjr: are either of those in an app menu?07:59
mjrgoye2cz, probably not, they're command line apps07:59
schlomoFabian : nope I'm not using wpa07:59
schlomoFabian : but wep ;-)07:59
HappyFoolmakaveli0129: i'm not sure. have you tried booting it, getting to the first install screen and then pressing Alt-F2 ? Or checking if there's a 'rescue' mode?07:59
mariuszjustin: o.k. thanks, i'll check that out :)07:59
xnoffcompiling tells me it can't find libncurses07:59
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xnoffdoes anyone know what that means?08:00
xnoffI installed build-essentials08:00
xnoffI installed build-essential08:00
Fabianschlomo, then do it anyway, without installing the firmware. Just the driver part08:00
HappyFoolxnoff: means you need to install more stuff ;)08:00
justinxnoff: why are you compiling something?08:00
GNULinuxerI can't install a lot of apps, the md5sum is not matching ... any solutions?08:00
HappyFoolmakaveli0129: just a moment08:00
magogim trying to follow http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20216&page=1&pp=10 and get it installed, im at the point where i need to make that prefrences file but i dont know how08:00
xnoffjustin: kismet08:00
makaveli0129happyfool: no i haven't tried pressing alt f2 at the install screen i will try that right now08:00
schlomoFabian : ok I will check08:00
schlomoFabian : thanks08:00
HappyFoolmakaveli0129: ah-ha!08:00
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xnoffjustin: I don't think they have a package08:00
HappyFoolmakaveli0129: according to this page: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/ReleaseNotes504/document_view   -- there's a rescue mode in the install process08:00
mjrGNULinuxer, see topic08:01
Fabianschlomo, for further help try google: ipw2200 ubuntu08:01
xnoffHappyFool: what do I need to install?08:01
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justinxnoff: something wrong with the kismet package that you already have?08:01
xnoffI don't have a kismet package08:01
justinxnoff: yes you do08:01
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xnoffwhere?08:01
HappyFoolxnoff: kismet is in hoary universe. not that i know what kismet is ;)08:01
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HappyFoolmakaveli0129: when you boot the install CD, can you see a 'rescue' option of any sort08:02
magogwill someone help me?08:02
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dr_willismagog,  depends on the question.08:02
Razor-Xhmmmm08:02
xnoffjustin: for powerpc too?08:02
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Razor-Xwhat's wrong with LaTeX?08:02
xnoffoops sorry that was for happyfool08:02
magogim trying to follow http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20216&page=1&pp=10 and get it installed, im at the point where i need to make that prefrences file but i dont know how08:02
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Fabiancan anyone explain me a little part of /etc/network/interfaces ???08:03
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HappyFoolxnoff: not a clue, sorry08:03
Razor-Xwell, first of all, is us.archive.ubuntu down?08:03
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HappyFoolxnoff: you have searched for it in synaptic (or using apt-cache), haven't you?08:03
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makaveli0129happyfool: i don't have that distro of ubuntu08:03
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HappyFoolxnoff: and you do have 'universe' enabled08:03
HappyFoolmakaveli0129: doh08:03
HappyFoolmakaveli0129: ok, let's try the Alt-F2 thing then08:03
magogi need to make a few files, but in the file browser i dont have permissions and im confused, i know i have to do it from the commandline but i dont know how,  know its noobish but ide appreciate the help08:03
raptoidhi dudes..08:03
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raptoidhelp me..08:03
justinxnoff: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=kismet08:03
raptoidraptoid@ubuntu:~$ sudo -s08:03
raptoidsudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0644, should be 044008:03
Razor-Xmagog: gtksu gedit /etc/apt/preferences08:03
raptoidraptoid@ubuntu:~$ sudo -s -H08:03
basti__hello08:03
FR500hello08:03
raptoidsudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0644, should be 044008:03
raptoidraptoid@ubuntu:~$08:03
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raptoid?08:04
raptoidraptoid@ubuntu:~$ sudo -s -H08:04
raptoidsudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0644, should be 044008:04
raptoid?08:04
basti__can someone help me to get my 5.1 NVidia SOund to run?08:04
raptoidhelp me08:04
FR500so gdesklets don't work for me in ubuntu, andy ideas on why?08:04
justinraptoid: /etc/sudoers is mode 0644, should be 044008:04
djm62raptoid: we all saw the first time....08:04
Razor-Xjustin: and how would you edit that without sudo access, hmmm?08:04
raptoidi dont no08:04
raptoid?08:04
Razor-X;)08:04
djm62boot from livecd08:04
Razor-Xyeah, or a floppy distro08:04
magogRazor-X, command not found08:04
Fabianhow do i deactivate, that stupid clock syncronizing with some ubuntu server????08:04
HappyFoolor in rescue mode ;)08:04
xnoffLOL08:05
xnoffok I found it08:05
xnoffpardon my ignorance08:05
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raptoidhelp meee08:05
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djm62raptoid: do you have the ubuntu livecd?08:05
Razor-Xmagog: don't you know the gtk sudo command?08:05
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rekaArakn0: iirc, you can do an install with floppies (i'm not certain though).  best option is to just buy a $5 drive.08:05
rekaRazor-X: are you asking?08:05
rekamagog: sudo gedit /etc/apt/preferences08:05
goye2czchecking again, anyone have any success with installing a tascam us122?08:05
raptoiddjm62, no08:05
xnoffHappyFool: that's ok, but I just got an md5sum error...08:05
djm62raptoid: any livecd?08:05
HappyFoolxnoff: us archives are broken08:05
Razor-Xreka: i'm asking about Ubuntu's downtime, it seems08:05
raptoidno08:05
xnoffHappyFool: does this mean I have to manually instlal that componant08:05
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raptoiddjm62, no08:05
xnoffHappyFool: so use a foreign one?08:05
HappyFoolxnoff: in /etc/apt/sources.list, change us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com08:05
chombeeall I get is "usb-storage: device found at 2", can't figure the device name to use08:05
xnoffHappyFool: thanks08:06
rekaRazor-X: ah, yeah i think us.archive has been sporadic08:06
chombeeit's using SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage08:06
raptoidhelp me08:06
basti__no idea?08:06
HappyFoolraptoid: boot into rescue mode and change the permissions of /etc/sudoers08:06
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magogok how do you make one like that but specifying the file extension...for instance the .dekstop i need to make08:06
Fabianhow do i deactivate, that stupid clock syncronizing with some ubuntu server????08:06
HappyFoolraptoid: chmod 600 /etc/sudoers08:06
raptoid"chmod 0440"08:07
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raptoid?08:07
raptoidok HappyFool08:07
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HappyFoolraptoid: sorry08:07
djm62raptoid: yeah 044008:07
HappyFoolraptoid: you were right08:07
raptoidok thanks08:07
djm62raptoid: you happy enough to get into rescue mode?08:07
HappyFoolmakaveli0129: you getting anywhere?08:07
rekamagog: fyi, linux doesn't need extensions.  to put one, just name the file with the extension e.g. "file.ext"08:07
chxI have changed the control file for a .deb , how could I rebuild it?08:07
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Fabianhow do i deactivate, that stupid clock syncronizing with some ubuntu server????08:08
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HappyFoolFabian: please don't repeat your question quite so often08:08
richardI'm getting an MD5sum mismatch off an 'apt-get install mbmon' from the us mirror.  Is this a US mirror problem?08:08
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magogok, so do it in text editor like anything else than save as and name it the .extension i need?08:08
rekaFabian: right-click ->adjust?08:08
FabianHappyFool, i want it to stop!!! ;)08:08
rekamagog: yep08:08
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magogty, i appreciate your patience with my stupid questions08:09
bob2richard: yes08:09
caonexhow can i install ubuntu from a .iso in a partition other than the root will be one?08:09
bob2dont use it08:09
rekamagog: you're learning, it's acceptable.08:09
magogat least im learning, i learn new stuff every day that makes me love linux more and more08:09
bob2caonex: you can't install from a .iso on disk08:09
magogreka, yup08:09
rekamagog: that's a good approach :-)08:09
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razAnyone got K3B working under ubuntu?08:10
bob2lots of people have08:10
Fabianreka: as far as i can see everythings deactivated.... but it still keeps syncronising at the startup08:10
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xnoffHappyFool: so my app installed... how do I open it now?08:10
Rockett17I installed it by enabling the root account>> installing it>> running the root set-up and then disabling the root set-up08:10
Rockett17root account^08:10
HappyFoolxnoff: never used kismet ;)08:10
xnoffHappyFool: should it be in the menu though?08:10
razbob2, so it's not only for KDE?08:10
HappyFoolxnoff: you can find out what files it's installed using synaptic08:11
HappyFoolxnoff: some apps appear there, some don't08:11
HappyFoolxnoff: at a guess, try starting a terminal, and type kismet<Enter>08:11
chombeeAny know a good channel I should join for support with USB devices?08:11
HappyFoolchombee: what device is it?08:11
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rekaFabian: hmm.  i'm not certain if this is actually what you want, but you could do this to disable it: http://ubuntuguide.org/#synchronizingclocktooslow08:12
ShachafWell, I'm booting to the Ubuntu live CD to see if the networking will work there. If it does, what would the relevant settings be that I should use in my Ubuntu installation?08:12
chombeeHappyFool - 3.5" external HD enclosure, bytetec ME-74008:12
vladuz976hey there, is it true that ubuntu disables root by default?08:12
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Rockett17yes08:12
rekaFabian: it might also be that you've enabled UTC in the clock prefs.08:12
chombeevladuz976 - yes, it uses sudo08:12
Shachafvladuz976: Yes.08:12
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Shachafvladuz976: You can use sudo, though.08:12
HappyFoolchombee: and what ubuntu are you running ? 5.04 (hoary) ? on a conventional intel/amd pc ?08:13
rekaFabian: disregard my last comment :-) UTC is unix time08:13
chombeeHappyFool - yes08:13
magogive done everything flawlessly like told from http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20216&page=1&pp=10 BUT i cant connect to deb http://soulmachine.net/debian unstable/ which is the repository that has DR1708:13
chombeewell, an IBM laptop08:13
djm62Universal Time Central...from the french08:13
rekaactually, no it's not ... i was right the first tmime08:13
djm62because greenwich mean time is too parochial08:13
HappyFoolchombee: and it's not auto-mounted when you plug it in?08:14
trillianI downloaded and decompressed build-essential but I don't think it's installed.  Forgive me, I'm new at this.08:14
djm62(and we all know, earth is at the centre of the universe ;) )08:14
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vladuz976i heard you can't browse files in nautilus and stuff08:14
chombeeHappyFool - no, doesn't seem to be, I don't see it anywhere08:14
HappyFooltrillian: you should need to download and decompress it -- just apt-get install it08:14
magogcan anyone else connect to deb http://soulmachine.net/debian unstable/ maybe im doing it wrong......or maybe theres another repo08:14
Shachafvladuz976: What do you mean?08:14
rekaa female in #ubuntu.  that's a rare sight.08:14
djm62trillian: did you manually download it, rather than using a package tool?08:14
HappyFooltrillian: should *not* need to08:14
HappyFoolchombee: hrm08:14
Shachafvladuz976: What would be the point if you couldn't?08:14
djm62trillian: apt-get install build-essential08:14
HappyFoolchombee: ok, let's try mounting it manually08:15
djm62reka: not that rare...08:15
HappyFoolchombee: let me just plug in my memory stick and see where it appears ....08:15
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chombeeHappyFool - dmesg and /var/log/messages seem to show the device being detected, but not mounted, and no device name08:15
rekadjm62: really? can you name others?08:15
squinnQuestion of convience for #ubuntu.08:15
HappyFoolchombee: it'll probably be /dev/sda1 or something08:15
vladuz976in #fedora they tell me those things08:15
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trillianHappyFool: I already dl'd in manually.  apt-get install... I can ruin that from the command prompt?08:15
djm62reka: honestly, I don't keep track....not my bag ;)08:15
vladuz976 iwas  considering ubuntu08:15
HappyFooltrillian: yip08:16
trillianHappyFool: run, even08:16
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squinnUh, everytime I need to boot my computer up, I need to login then type "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" and "sudo ifup wlan0" to start web08:16
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squinnis there an easier way to have those commands performed on boot?08:16
HappyFoolTriffid_Hunter: see what djm62 said earlier. 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'08:16
chombeeHappyFool - Unable to open /dev/sda08:16
bob2squinn: so, put ndiswrapper in /etc/modules08:16
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rekadjm62: :-)  i didn't mean it that way...08:16
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squinnah ok08:16
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Fabianreka, what exactly disables "sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/service_name" ???? In the document you pointed out, it just sais "disable boot-up service"08:16
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djm62Triffid_Hunter: also, apt-get build-dep packagename08:17
rekaFabian: i'd first see if you've enabled UTC in the clock's prefs.08:17
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HappyFoolchombee: /dev/sda1, not /dev/sda -- and you need to mount it (err, maybe you know how to mount devices?)08:17
squinnokay, bob2 ..but after i do that, how can i get boot to "ifup wlan0"?08:17
trillianHappyFool: blimey that was easy. deleting weird crap I did previously.... thanks ^_^08:17
XosgyzAnyone have any experience setting up LVM on initial installation?08:17
Fabianreka, nope i haven't08:17
djm62Triffid_Hunter: ie, if you have a gnome/gtk package to build, apt-get build-dep gaim would probably get most of what you need....08:17
rekaFabian: topic title: "Synchronizing clock to ntp.ubuntulinux.org"08:17
chombeeHappyFool -  I was trying to use fdisk to see what partitions are on the device, I can't try to mount it without the partition name08:18
HappyFooltrillian: fwiw, build-essential is just a fake package which depends on gcc, g++ and make (possibly others)08:18
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HappyFoolchombee: hrm, good idea08:18
HappyFoolchombee: did you sudo ?08:18
HappyFoolchombee: 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda' ?08:18
chombeeHappyFool - sudo fdisk /dev/sda08:18
trillianHappyFool: Then I may have to do something further.  I'll see if thsi does what I need itto.08:18
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vladuz976hey do you guys think ubuntu is a good distro for me as a newbie?08:19
chombeeHappyFool - with -l it gives no output08:19
HappyFoolchombee: sub-optimal08:19
mdkevladuz976, we are biased, but yes08:19
djm62vladuz976: yeah...08:19
Seveasgooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooodevening #ubuntu!08:19
mdkegreetings08:19
HappyFoolchombee: how many files do you see if you do ls -l /dev/sd?     ?08:19
Seveas</robin williams>08:19
HappyFool(the ? is part of the command ;)08:19
vladuz976mdke, yes biased, but seriously is it userfriendly?08:19
chombeeHappyFool - No such file or directory08:20
mdkevladuz976, extremely. I am not aware of any that are easier to use :)08:20
HappyFoolchombee: um08:20
Seveasvladuz976, yes, very userfriendly and newbie-friendly08:20
HappyFoolchombee: so /dev/sda doesn't even exist ?08:20
metzenim not biased (i dont use ubuntu), and i say it would be a great place to start08:20
vladuz976mdke, mandrake?08:20
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mdkevladuz976, also the community is good and there is plenty of help08:20
dr_willisuserfriendly = a term that means very little these days08:20
Soft-warehey all08:20
dr_willis:P08:20
mdkevladuz976, i haven't used mandrake much08:20
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Soft-waredoes anyone have a working apt-get source.list08:20
raptoidraptoid@ubuntu:~$ sudo -s -H08:20
raptoidPassword:08:20
raptoidraptoid is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.08:20
dr_willisubuntu's homepage and wiki and channels do have some VERY good docs and advice.08:20
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raptoidhelp me08:20
mdkevladuz976, but the best thing with linux is to pick a good distro, then stick with it, and you learn :)08:20
raptoidofff08:20
SeveasSoft-ware, paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3808:20
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vladuz976mdke, can all the dbian apy get be used08:21
infralitehello, is it possible to upgrade from 4.10 to the current stable version?08:21
HappyFoolchombee: if you do 'cat /proc/scsi/scsi', do you see an 'Attached devices' line ?08:21
djm62raptoid: has someone messed with your system?08:21
Seveasvladuz976, with care...08:21
bob2raptoid: login as the first user who was created during the install08:21
Soft-wareSeveas, what is this?08:21
rekainfralite: yep, someone has the onle-line update...08:21
bob2raptoid: then run 'sudo adduser raptoid admin'08:21
SeveasSoft-ware, that is a url to a working sources.list08:21
mdkevladuz976, you can't use all the debian packages, but the apt system is the same yes08:21
XosgyzIs it possible to setp LVM from the installation CD?08:21
reka*one-line08:21
bob2infralite: of course08:21
ShachafHmm. Neither Ubuntu nor its live CD recognize my eepro100, even though other distributions do.08:21
vladuz976mdke, so so ubuntu is a good one to pick? how long has it been for you?08:21
Soft-wareoh ok gracias amigo08:21
infraliteah, online update?08:21
chombeeHappyFool - doesn't look like /dev/sda exists08:21
bob2Shachaf: e100 is the driver it would use08:21
bob2infralite: or from the hoary cd08:21
infraliteno need to download cd?08:21
mdkevladuz976, about 6 months i guess08:21
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infralitehmm08:22
bob2infralite: of course08:22
mdkehey bob208:22
Seveasinfralite, only 1 cd: to install it :)08:22
HappyFoolchombee: so i see. to repeat from earlier: if you do 'cat /proc/scsi/scsi', do you see an 'Attached devices' line ?08:22
infralitehehe08:22
Seveasbut after that it's infinetly updtaable via internet08:22
Shachafbob2: I know.08:22
mdkebob2, you were helping me with my debian system the other day, glad to say that it is now workind :D08:22
mdked/g08:22
Shachafbob2: I tried both eepro100 and e100.08:22
infraliteah, i thought that old versions would become unsupported08:22
chombeeHappyFool '$ cat /proc/scsi/scsi' gives 'Attached devices:'08:22
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Shachafbob2: With DHCP and static IP.08:22
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HappyFoolchombee: is that it?08:23
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Soft-wareSeveas, well man there is 2 source.list listed there which one i take the first one or the second one?08:23
djm62infralite: they do eventually....but I think hoary has until 2006 at the earliest08:23
HappyFoolchombee: i mean, does it list any devices there ?08:23
chombeeHappyFool - yeah, looks like no scsi devices08:23
infralitewould i upgrade through synaptic or apt?08:23
Fabianreka, there is no service_name in my /etc/init.d08:23
HappyFoolchombee: suboptimal08:23
SeveasSoft-ware, hehe, you never used a pastebin right?08:23
infraliteor is there another means?08:23
SeveasSoft-ware, take the first one08:23
Fabianhi Seveas08:24
Seveashi Fabian08:24
chombeeHappyFool - i see this in dmesg: scsi1 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices08:24
Fabiangot my wlan card up and running! :D08:24
rekaFabian: see the topic links before that line? http://ubuntuguide.org/#permanentlydisableenableboot-upservices08:24
Seveasgreat!08:24
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djm62infralite: you would need to change your sources.list, then apt-get dist-upgrade, and that's that08:24
Soft-wareSeveas, thanks dude and no i never used the pastebin hehe sorry08:24
mdkeSeveas, btw, there is also http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ExampleConffiles for model sources.lists :D08:24
infraliteah08:24
Seveasmdke, thanks, didn't know that one yet08:24
djm62infralite: when breezy is released, there will be clear instructions on how to update on the web, telling you what to change08:25
rekaFabian: actually, you might want to ask Seveas.  i'm not completely sure if that will fix your prob.08:25
Fabianreka, yep see that one! can't chmod it if there is no such thing as /etc/init.d/service_name08:25
mdkeFabian, that is a bad way to disable boot services08:25
infralitedjm62: then onto hoary for now08:25
HappyFoolchombee: can you put the output of dmesg up here: http://rafb.net/paste/08:25
Seveasfabbione, what are you trying to do?08:25
djm62infralite: I'm using it...it's good :)08:25
HappyFoolchombee: tell me the URL when you're done08:25
infralitedjm62: lol08:25
Fabianalright then: Seveas, how do i disable that clock syncronizing with some ubuntu server on boot-up?08:25
mdkeFabian, there is a program that you can install if you wish to disable boot services, it is called Bootup Manager, you can find it on the forums08:26
Fabianmdke: what's the better way?08:26
infralitei'm happy with ubuntu too, no need to convince me :)08:26
mdkeFabian, otherwise, just uninstall ntpdate08:26
HappyFoolchombee: i googled for your drive model and got 0 hits -- you said it's a bytetec ME-740 ?08:26
SeveasFabian, chmod 000 /etc/init.d/ntpdate08:26
rekaFabian: you replace "service_name" with the service you are trying to disable. in this case, it's "ntpdate"08:26
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Fabianreka, ah i see! :D08:26
rekaFabian: you've just learnt the shortcomings of ubguide!08:26
FR500reka, why not using BUM?08:26
infralitedjm62: so dist-upgrade doesn't exist for now?08:26
mdkethis method of disabling boot services is against debian policy08:26
mdkeSeveas, reka ^^08:26
Fabianreka, i reckon I'm pretty fast learning! I got ubuntu since three days and never used linux before! :D08:27
djm62infralite: dist-upgrade exists, and you are free to use breezy, but it isn't recommended08:27
HappyFoolmdke: please teach us the true way, oh master :-)08:27
rekaFR500: probably cos i have no idea what it is. L-/08:27
Seveasmdke, yeah, update-rc.d is the preferred way :)08:27
Seveasupdate-rc.d ntpdate remove08:27
mdkeFabian, you can get a nice program to do it, here: http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html08:27
mdkeyeah that way is good too08:27
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infralitedjm62: hmm, but can't i get a dst-upgrade for hoary? i'm using an earlier version08:27
FR500reka, it's a graphical too for doing that08:28
infralite*dist08:28
chombeeHappyFool - http://rafb.net/paste/results/oHTXyG26.html I couldn't find any Linux stuff about it on google, hold on08:28
mdkeHappyFool, i'm not being anal, it is just not recommended08:28
rekaFR500: ah, cheers.08:28
razAnyone knows how to change the font of K3B?..08:28
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djm62infralite: oh, yeah...look on the wiki for warty->hoary instructions, and be prepared for some downloading08:28
HappyFoolmdke: sorry, i meant that semi-seriously08:28
HappyFoolmdke: as in, what do you recommend08:28
mdkeHappyFool, see the introduction section at http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bumdocs.html08:28
infralitedjm62: ah, ok. thanks :D that was all i wanted08:28
FabianSeveas, i just did chomd it. So that's bad? what else instead?08:28
chombeeHappyFool - Bytecc ME-74008:29
Seveaschombee, /dev/sdb doesn't work?08:29
basti__hello, I have Ubuntu with ESD Sound as Standartm is that normal?08:29
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SeveasFabian, chown isn't that bad08:29
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chombeeSeveas - no, nor sdc, sdd08:29
mdkeFabian, that has some bad effects, but if in the future you want it to work, and have problems with it, just reinstall ntpdate08:29
SeveasFabian, the official way is update-rc.d ntpdate remove08:29
chombeeSeveas - I did sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb08:29
HappyFoolSeveas: he doesn't have any /dev/sd? files08:29
Seveaschombee, just du sudo fdisk -l08:29
FabianSeveas, where is the difference?08:30
djm62infralite: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HoaryUpgradeNotes08:30
infraliteah, you're fater than me :P08:30
SeveasFabian, fdisk -l will list *all* available partitions08:30
infralite*faster08:30
mdkeFabian, it is explained here: http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bumdocs.html08:30
HappyFoolSeveas: wow. didn't know that08:30
HappyFoolSeveas: also, /proc/scsi/scsi doesn't list any 'attached devices'08:30
Seveashmm08:30
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Seveasusb_storage is loaded?08:31
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chombeeSeveas - all I got is hda1,2,5,6. Strangely hda2 is 'W96 Ext'd (LBA)'. Bizarre08:31
HappyFoolSeveas: yeah, see http://rafb.net/paste/results/oHTXyG26.html08:31
Seveasbasti__, yes, ESD is standard08:31
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basti__Seveas, my 5.1 Sound doesn work08:31
basti__only stereo08:31
Seveaschombee, that's not bizarre08:31
HappyFoolchombee: it's just an extended partition -- 5 and 6 are elements of that extended partition08:31
FabianSeveas, i get en error message when doint "update-rc.d ntpdate remove"08:31
mdkeFabian, that is because you did the chmod08:32
Seveasbasti__, look at wiki.ubuntu.com , go to HoarySoundProblems08:32
chombeeSeveas, happyFool - but why the win?08:32
Fabianmdke, how to undo?08:32
HappyFoolchombee: dunno. it doesn't matter ;) cos it's not helping you find your usb drive08:32
Seveaschombee, that's how fdisk calls extended partitions08:32
SeveasFabian, which error?08:32
basti__okay08:32
peter2i have a problem installing an upgrade for firefox through smart upgrade synaptic08:33
chombeeHappyFool, Seveas - okay. I just thought it was suspicous. I tried mounting that partition earlier, not good08:33
mdkeFabian, you need to change the permissions back.08:33
Seveaschombee, can you see the device with lshw?08:33
mdkeFabian, but it is probably easier to leave it now08:33
Seveasand lsusb?08:33
anacronwould somebody help me install stepmania?08:33
FabianSeveas, update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/ntpdate exists during rc.d purg (use -f to force)08:33
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Seveashmm, ah stupid me08:33
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Razor-XI don't think there's any hard in removing your deb cache, is there?08:33
Seveasremove doesn't work...08:33
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Fabianwhat else?08:33
Seveasyou have to give it a different argument08:33
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peter2can someone have a look at this ?08:33
Seveasthat's why I always do the chmod trick :D08:34
peter2W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libc/libcairo/libcairo1_0.3.0-1_i386.deb08:34
peter2  MD5Sum mismatch08:34
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Razor-X*anything wrong08:34
anacronpeter2: topic08:34
Seveaspeter2, look at the topic08:34
Seveaspeter2: To switch to a working mirror type the following:  sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update08:34
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mdkeis that problem in the topic?08:34
SeveasRazor-X, apt-get clean will clean it out for you08:34
anacronSeveas: have you binded button for that :D08:34
peter2tx08:34
mdkeaha08:34
FabianSeveas, so what do i do now?08:34
concept10Seveas, I come from a Red Hat based world.  How do I list my services in the current run level.  No ckconfig...08:34
Seveasanacron, for the sed thing: yes08:34
anacron:D08:34
anacronit was just too fast08:35
Seveasconcept10, ls /etc/rc2.d/S*08:35
mdkeconcept10, there is no tool sadly08:35
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SeveasFabian, well, since you did the chmod trick already: nothing :)08:36
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wulfepupOk.. so i followed the instructions in the wiki for sound (Restricted Formats) so that I'd be able to use mp3 and dvd ....but the ALSA and the OSS still give me an error when I test it. (after a reboot)08:36
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mdkeconcept10, but you can install a gui frontend which helps: http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html08:36
FabianSeveas, how would i set back the permissions?08:36
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chombeeSeveas - I see a couple of things, my USB bus with driver=uhci_hcd, a scsi with configuration: driver=usb-storage, logical name scsi108:36
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Fabianchmod +x /etc/inti.d/ntpdate???08:36
SeveasFabian, chmod 744 /etc/init.d/ntpdate08:36
anacronhey anyone, stepmania guide for me?08:36
concept10mdke, I will be working with Amarath to help port the Fedora tool over to ubuntu08:37
sniffhi does anybody know which ports gaim uses to recieve files08:37
FabianSeveas, and then the other remove-thing would work?08:37
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mdkeconcept10, you don't like that frontend?08:37
SeveasFabian, no08:37
wulfepup"Failed to construct pipeline blah blah"08:37
chombeeSeveas - man lshw says that the command does not detect USB or firewire devices08:37
djm62sniff: depends on the protocol, I think...08:37
Seveasthe remove thing will not work at all08:37
FabianSeveas, lol... ;)08:37
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Dilkesi have just installed ubuntu on my pc and  was looking for an achitectural drawing progam ,does any one have any ideas08:38
sniffwhere did i find that protocol?08:38
HappyFoolchombee: yeah, but evidently it detects scsi devices (which is how linux is seeing your usb drive)08:38
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concept10mdke, BUM?08:38
djm62sniff: live up to your name...creative use of netstat ;)08:38
chombeeSeveas - it also says virtual SCSI interfaces for USB mass storage are not detected properly08:38
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mdkeconcept10, yes08:38
anacronDilkes: gentoofiles.org, there's a plenty of good software08:38
SeveasFabian, update-rc.d -f remove ntpdate08:38
SeveasFabian, that'll work08:38
djm62sniff: the protocols are mostly proprietary and undocumented, sadly08:38
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concept10mdke, you wrote that?08:38
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mdkeconcept10, no08:39
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concept10mdke, I havent used it yet.  Can it restart services?08:39
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HappyFoolwhat's with these ubuntu app names. bum and smeg. eish ;)08:39
mdkeconcept10, sure08:39
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FabianSeveas, and that is the proper way to do?08:39
mdkeconcept10, i think ;)08:39
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SeveasFabian, yes08:39
mdkeconcept10, if not, i'm sure it would not be difficult to add that functionality08:40
djm62smeg...perfectly respectable brand ;)08:40
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markbuenasd08:40
mark:_p08:40
peter2seveas, what does the line do you gave a while ago ?08:40
SeveasHappyFool, the ubutu folks didn't make up these names08:40
anatoleanyone knows What is the location of the directory of C header files  ?08:40
KarlosIIrotflol08:40
HappyFoolSeveas: i guessed as much ;)08:40
anatolevmware install is asking08:40
KarlosIIhttp://ak.bluestreak.com//adv/msuml/%5E4765/%5E266678/Linux_711_336x280.swf?clickTag=http%3A%2F%2Fadserver%2Eadtech%2Ede%3A80%2Fadlink%7C340%7C114446%7C1%7C171%7CAdId%3D329570%3BBnId%3D1%3Bitime%3D687944724%3Bku%3D251006%3Bkey%3Dbottom%3Bnodecode%3Dyes%3Blink%3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fs0b%2Ebluestreak%2Ecom%2Fix%2Ee%3Ftr%26s%3D363304%26a%3D266678%26u%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww%252Emicrosoft%252Ecom%252Fuk%252Fgetthefacts%252Fdefault%252Emspx08:40
Seveaspeter2, it'll make you switch to a good ubuntu mirror08:40
KarlosIIoops08:41
FabianSeveas, ya sure it's not update-rc.d -f ntpdate remove?08:41
KarlosIIsry08:41
SeveasKarlosII, use tinyurl man :)08:41
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SeveasFabian, i said that :)08:41
anatole/usr/src/linux/include is the default but they are not there08:41
FabianSeveas, nope you changed remove and ntpdate! ;)08:41
Seveasanatole, aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)08:41
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chombeeHappyFool, Seveas - do you think I need to mount scsi1? I think the device probably has multiple partitions, but fdisk finds nothing on /dev/scsi or /dev/scsi108:42
SeveasFabian, ah mixup :|08:42
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Dilkesanacron I tried gentoofiles.org. Is there a typo in the name? It doesn't come up.08:42
wulfepupOk.. so i followed the instructions in the wiki for sound (Restricted Formats) so that I'd be able to use mp3 and dvd ....but the ALSA and the OSS still give me an error when I test it. (after a reboot) "Failed to construct pipeline blah blah"08:42
FabianSeveas, yep! ;) needs sudo, right?08:42
HappyFoolchombee: i think that 'scsi1' is an internal name only08:42
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Seveaswulfepup, Ubuntu uses esd, not raw also or deprecated oss08:42
markque onda08:42
SeveasFabian, of course :)08:42
markhablen alguna wea08:42
mark:p08:42
Seveasmark, english please08:42
Fabiandone08:43
markOK08:43
peter2do i need to do this all the time now ?08:43
mark hi08:43
Seveaspeter2, no just this once08:43
wulfepupSeveas: Yes, I'm aware of that.. but the wiki has details for enabling the others, since some apps use them...08:43
djm62mark: espanol? there is #ubuntu-es if you prefer :)08:43
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anatoleKarlosII: but wtf08:43
wulfepupSo I followed the instructions to find no change08:43
iggy_hello i have a question can i intall a lamp on a ubuntu desktop envoirment08:43
moparfan90anyone use fedora core 4??08:43
Seveaswulfepup, if you want to use raw also, you should disable esd08:43
peter2Thanks Seveas, you been a great help these last days for me :)08:43
anatoleisn't negative advertisement illegal?08:43
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Seveasmoparfan90, look at the channel name...08:44
wulfepuphttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats08:44
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djm62Seveas: is dmix derecommended?08:44
Seveasoh yes, and i am forced to uce FC at work. I hate it08:44
HappyFooliggy_: sure. just be careful not to knock it over. screwing the lamp into the case might help08:44
Seveasdjm62, in fact dmix will be the default for breezy08:44
iggy_:D08:44
djm62anatole: not if it poses as research...08:44
moparfan90i know. just wanted to know if any tried it.08:44
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ubotuROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT has landed!08:44
raz-_-08:45
Seveasiggy_, sudo aptitude install libapache2-mod-php4 mysql-server08:45
anacronDilkes: try google08:45
Dilkesi have just installed ubuntu on my pc and  was looking for an achitectural drawing progam ,does any one have any ideas?08:45
djm62Seveas: ah, good...one more thing I can forget how to do in linux ;)08:45
iggy_then i am gonna folllow the lamp wiki for aubuntu server08:45
HappyFooliggy_: apache2, mysql and php (or python / perl) are all available via synaptic08:45
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sniffhi does anybody know which ports gaim for files uses08:45
Stew2I'm trying to help a friend out.... I was hoping for more :)08:45
djm62Stew2: specifically architecture?08:45
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anatoleoic08:45
FabianSeveas, is there a good antivirus for linux which is free?08:46
SeveasFabian, clamav08:46
djm62Stew2: there are some structured drawing programs, and some CAD tools, and 3d modellers08:46
anatoleantivirus? an antivirus is needed for linux?08:46
chombeeSeveas - lshw is sort of cool, doesn't the Device Manager do the same thing though?08:46
FabianSeveas, clamav? is that a package included in ubuntu?08:46
djm62Stew2: but I think architecture is as yet unfilled :-/08:46
anacronhow many viruses there is for linux?08:46
Seveasanatole, well, if you run a mailserver and wnat to provide a service to windows-running clients :)08:46
anatole:D08:47
SeveasFabian, no idea, never tried to use it08:47
anacron:D08:47
anatole:D08:47
Seveasanacron, some...08:47
anacronSeveas: good point08:47
FabianSeveas, lol, what do you use?08:47
HappyFoolanacron: 12, i think. mcafee has a list08:47
SeveasFabian, good sense08:47
Seveasso no antivirus08:47
anacronHappyFool: ok, but isn't those that kind you have to execute them yourself before they start working?08:47
anacronkind of*08:47
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HappyFoolanacron: not a clue08:48
anatoleSeveas: i installed the package... what is the location for them?08:48
FabianSeveas, there are several packages with clamav in there name in synaptic, and one actually called clamav08:48
anatolevmware still can't find it08:48
Stew2djm62, anacron THanks!08:48
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Seveasanatole, then mke the symlink yourself08:48
doogluspeter2: are you there?08:48
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peter2yes i am08:48
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Fabiananyone knows about clamav?08:48
peter2whats up ?08:49
Mahlugh easy fast question...i managed to mess up the gnome panel menus...whats the command for getting the theme manager up08:49
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djm62Stew2: http://www.tenlinks.com/CAD/products/LINUX.HTM08:49
thotypousMahl, gnome-theme-manager08:49
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AmaranthMahl: gnome-theme-manager? :)08:49
peter2dooglus ?08:49
Mahlofcourse08:49
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razAnyone knows how to change the font of K3B under ubuntu/gnome?08:49
djm62Stew2: looks like I typed too soon...there are some mentioned there08:49
Mahlis there any way i can reinstall the old menus...?08:49
FabianSeveas, is that ClamAv AntiVirus Server?????08:49
AmaranthMahl: sudo apt-get --reinstall install gnome-menus08:50
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SeveasFabian, apt-cache search clamav08:50
SeveasFabian, that'll show one-line descriptions too08:50
netmonkanyone having problems with you usb and the latest kernel from ubuntu?08:50
doogluspeter2: I was wondering what happened to your original account.  What happens when you try to log into Gnome with it?08:51
magogcould someone that has got e17 to run please spare me a little time, pm me? ive done everything stated in the forum but havent been able to get it goin08:51
Mahlgreat!08:51
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SeamusLPnetmonk:  Are you running hoary?08:51
raptoidhi dudes..08:51
netmonkyes08:51
Stew2djm62, THat's cool. the structured drawing programs, what do you recommend?08:51
peter2it craches and I get back to gnome log-in screen08:51
netmonkyese SeamusLP08:51
Fabianalright08:51
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raptoidi need example full packages sources.list ?08:51
raptoidhelp08:51
Seveasraptoid: Example config files can be found at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ExampleConffiles08:51
djm62Stew2: I'm no expert, but dia is nice for normal diagrams, and inkscape is good for vector illustrations08:52
peter2Seveas tried to help me out on that one to no avail, had to create a new user08:52
raptoidhttp://us.archive.ubuntu.com change to http://archive.ubuntu.com08:52
raptoidcorrect ?08:52
SeamusLPnetmonk:  That's rather strange, hoary updates are security updates08:52
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Seveasraptoid, correct08:52
SeamusLPnetmonk:  You may want to file a bug report08:52
chombeeHappyFool, Seveas - looks like we're out of leads, do you think the device is simply unsupported?08:53
netmonkSeamusLP,yesterday updated the kernel and wont recognize the usb flash memory but it works with the old kernel08:53
lsuactiafnerwhat about a CASE tool to draw use-case diagrams ect?08:53
djm62Stew2: I have no idea what architecture involves, so best to give those a shot and then ask "like dia, but more X and less Y": for the most part that will be free08:53
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doogluspeter2: that's very odd.  I would have thought that by simply renaming all your files and directories out of the way you could have fixed it.08:53
netmonkSeamusLP, where do i do that?08:53
slepthow does ubotu learn ? where can I read more about that ?08:53
doogluspeter2: I guess by now you have the 'peter2' account all set up right anyway, right?08:53
lsuactiafnerslept http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki08:53
HappyFoolchombee: not sure. that thing about 'virtual <something> not detected properly' sounded a bit funny08:53
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SeamusLPnetmonk:  You've rebooted since yesterday, right?  Kernel changes don't take place until reboot08:54
HappyFoolchombee: however, i am out of ideas08:54
netmonkSeamusLP, yes ;)08:54
orhshey all! how do i install a .tar.bz2 file?    (iam installing clearlooks08:54
Mahlthat didnt work Amarath08:54
chombeeHappyFool - that's just the lshw command doesn't detect USB Mass storage devices that pose as virtual scsi devices08:54
Stew2djm62, Not a flow chart or diagram program. Something more like autocad, or at least a 'structured drawing program', meaning a drawing program that has rulers, so things can be drawn out to scale.08:54
peter2yes I do :)08:54
Mahlmy menus are still gone08:54
Seveasorhs, clearlooks is installed already08:54
dooglusorhs: "sudo apt-get install clearlooks"08:54
MahlI eh,...managed to delete some of the entries manually08:54
Fabiananyone knows how to update clamav?08:55
HappyFoolchombee: ok, fair enough08:55
lsuactiafnerorhs : tar -jxf file.tar.bz2 ; cd package_name ; ./configure ; make ; make install08:55
peter2The crashes always happened when using Totem to watch video08:55
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Stew2djm62, Inkscape, checking it out now. Sounds a lot more like what he wanted. Thanks!08:55
Seveaslsuactiafner, not for clearlooks08:55
orhsseveas, oh is it? hmm08:55
lsuactiafnerman clamav08:55
Matthew_Worhs: if you want to do it from source, extract the .tar.bz2, move to the folder, ./configure --prefix=/usr ;  make ; make install ; make clean08:55
lsuactiafnerwhat is clearlocks?08:55
Seveaslsuactiafner, please do not aadice that for apps that are in the repositories08:55
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SeamusLPnetmonk:  I'm not really sure how you can reinstall the old kernel08:55
Seveasclearlooks is the theme enging ubuntu uses by default...08:55
glDahertrying to get kdevelop and I get this error in synaptic: W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/automake/automake1.4_1.4-p6-8_all.deb   ---  MD5Sum mismatch08:55
gilahello08:55
lsuactiafnerah08:56
SeveasglDaher, topic08:56
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lsuactiafneri use blackbox..08:56
SeveasglDaher: To switch to a working mirror type the following:  sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update08:56
lsuactiafnermy own themse ect..08:56
netmonkSeamusLP, how do i file bug report ;)08:56
gilaany one using Vaio Notebook ?08:56
sleptlsuactiafner, there is nothing in the wiki :(08:56
Matthew_WglDaher:  try #kubuntu08:56
SeamusLPnetmonk:  Hold on just a second08:56
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SeveasMatthew_W, hmm??08:56
lsuactiafnerah well i need to study08:56
lsuactiafnerstupid exams08:56
MahlSo I managed to delete some entries in the menu by hand...tried reinstalling gnome-menu...gnome-panel etc08:56
lsuactiafnershould be back 22nd08:56
Mahlstill no luck getting the entries back08:56
Mahlany ideas?08:56
glDaherok Mathew_W08:56
gilaany one using Vaio Notebook ?08:57
Matthew_WSeveas:  well, I figured if he was asking a KDE related question, he's probably using kubuntu, opened xchat, which made him join ubuntu by default08:57
SeveasglDaher, you don;t need to go to #kubuntu08:57
gilahow to setup sound on this notebook08:57
SeamusLPnetmonk: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/bugs/document_view    and I'd also post on the ubuntu forums http://www.ubuntuforums.org to see if anyone else has the problem08:57
SeveasMatthew_W, look at the question before answering...08:57
Seveasit was the md5sum stuff again08:57
SeamusLPnetmonk:  If you want the old kernel you'll probably have to install it from a hoary CD, but you will of course be vulnerable to whatever has been fixed since hoary came out.08:57
MahlNobody has the answer eh08:58
SeveasglDaher, the us ubuntu mirror is down08:58
razis there an easy way to convert to kubuntu or do you have to go throu a clean install?08:58
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AmaranthMahl: oh, you deleted the entries?08:58
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twodekoaaargh08:58
SeveasMahl, how did you delete the entries?08:58
twodekoim trying to figure out what i like more08:58
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twodekogentoo or ubnutu08:58
PhantomFreakHow do I add command I want to be executed on startup?08:58
Seveasraz, sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop08:58
glDaheryes Seveas I thought so...08:58
dr_willisraz,  check the kubuntu homepage. its a simple apt-get.08:58
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AmaranthMahl: Ok, well, let's say you deleted the entry for evolution. To get it back you need to reinstall evolution.08:58
glDaherand no I don't wanna use kde08:58
gilaplease give me a update server08:58
SeveasglDaher: To switch to a working mirror type the following:  sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update08:58
chombeeIs there a way to get XChat to give me a list of channels? I want to find a linux technical help channel for mounting USB devices08:59
Mahlthats the only way Amaranth ?08:59
Seveasthat'll solve the md5sum errors08:59
MahlThere isnt a way to reinstall something?08:59
AmaranthMahl: yeah08:59
AmaranthMahl: the application installs the menu entry08:59
HappyFoolchombee: Window -> Channel list08:59
Mahlwell...ok thanks08:59
razSay you want a KDE desktop.. what is recommanded? ubuntu+kde desktop or kubuntu?08:59
Mahlwell bbl then thanks for the help08:59
SeamusLPtwodeko:  I used gentoo for awhile, haven't looked back since changing.  Configuring sound was a little easier with gentoo because of USE flags.08:59
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AmaranthMahl: you don't lose any setting when reinstalling08:59
Seveasraz, kubuntu08:59
Mahlwell...its so many things to reinstall09:00
Mahl:)09:00
mjrraz, same thing09:00
twodekoSeamusLP, but i just feel like i cant do anything on here09:00
twodekoits all preconfigured09:00
magoggrrr i got a depository that works and has dr17 in my sources.list and added it to synaptic, it updates files from it but all i see is dr1609:00
Matthew_Woops =/ sorry09:00
AmaranthMahl: next time don't go nuts in /usr/share/applications/ :)09:00
Mahl:P:P09:00
Mahlcu09:00
djm62twodeko: use whatever you're comfortable with, dude09:00
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Matthew_WOn another topic, anyone know anything about USB -- BitPim won't access my USB/Serial ports, it just gives me "You have no serial/com ports on your system" when I'm clearly looking right at them... this is a particularly frustrating problem.09:00
Seveaswise words djm62 :)09:00
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twodekodjm62, i have been using gentoo for a while but after loosing my last install... its been a bitch to set it up again09:01
SeamusLPtwodeko:  It may be preconfigured but you can learn much from reconfiguring.09:01
Seveastwodeko, ubuntu is a dream to setup :)09:01
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chombeeHappyFool, Seveas - thanks for the help, I'll continue elsewhere09:01
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twodekoamd64 doesnt seem very refined09:01
twodekoSeveas, how so?09:01
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djm62Seveas: in that you can do it in your sleep? ;)09:01
twodekothis brown theme is bothering me :p09:01
Seveasdjm62, indeed ;)09:01
Seveastwodeko, than change the color09:01
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glDaheryep thx Seveas09:02
twodekoSeveas, looks terrible on my LCD... but all linux's do09:02
chombeeHas anyone noticed problems fetching mplayer? Apt seems unable to get the packages09:02
Seveastwodeko, answering 4 questions to get a complete functional system beats the hell out of a gentoo stage 1 install...09:02
twodekoSeveas, tell me about it09:02
pepsiwhere can i get help with openoffice2?09:02
Seveasescpeciall since it takes just 30 minutes :)09:02
HappyFoolchombee: what problems you having?09:02
twodekoSeveas, what WM do you use09:02
HappyFoolchombee: note that use repo is down09:02
Seveastwodeko, currently gnome09:02
PhantomFreakEverybody is fucking ignoring me again! And this is supposed to be an official line of support!09:03
HappyFoolchombee: i meant us repo09:03
SeveasPhantomFreak: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct09:03
orhsi got a login mananger here but i dont know how to install09:03
HappyFoolPhantomFreak: no-one here is being paid to support anyone ;)09:03
SeveasPhantomFreak, it's busy, so your question can get lost09:03
sleptMatthew_W, what does lsusb tell you ?09:03
twodekoSeveas, looking to try anything else?09:03
AmaranthPhantomFreak: Also, this isn't "official", this is users trying to help other users.09:03
Seveastwodeko, i've tried xfce too09:03
twodekobecause gnome has always seemed so large09:03
Seveasi liked it09:03
chombeeHappyFool - this is just a friend of mine, I was setting up some multimedia a packages for him and he's been repeatedly unable to get a couple of them, mplayer ones, looks like repo is down. You say a US repo is down?09:03
twodekoSeveas, howd that work with ubuntu09:03
twodekothats what i was running in gentoo09:03
twodekoor tried09:03
Matthew_Wslept:  Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:000009:03
Matthew_WBus 002 Device 003: ID 1267:0210 Logic3 / SpectraVideo plc09:03
Matthew_WBus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:000009:03
Matthew_WBus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:000009:03
Seveastwodeko, sudo atitude install xfce409:04
twodekoand got frustrated because it was buggy09:04
magogif you look at http://mirror.my-space.ath.cx/unstable-20050215/ they have dr17....i update my repo info to but ONLY am seeing the dr16 packagesd09:04
PhantomFreakAmaranth: Ask the Ubuntu website that!09:04
Seveastwodeko, and done :)09:04
magogwhy would that be?09:04
Amaranthchombee: marillat is broken too, but you shouldn't be using it anyway09:04
HappyFoolchombee: yeah, the us repo. in /etc/apt/sources.list, change 'us.archive.ubuntu.com' to archive.ubuntu.com09:04
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orhshow do i install a login mananger??09:04
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twodekoatitude?09:04
twodekocommand not found09:04
Seveasaptitude09:04
AmaranthPhantomFreak: Official just means they manage the channel, it doesn't mean we have to help everyone with everything instantly.09:04
Seveasor apt-get09:04
Seveasor synaptic09:04
HappyFoolPhantomFreak: feel free to ask for a refund ;). What's your question09:04
Seveasbut i prefer aptitude :)09:04
chombeeHappyFool - or wait for the US one to come back up, I guess09:05
SeamusLPPhantomFreak:  There are other ways to get support if the chat is busy.  The first thing you should do anyway is check the wiki and the forums.09:05
twodekoah thanks, apt-get is foreign to me09:05
djm62PhantomFreak: a command you want on starting the computer, or on logging in?09:05
chombeeAmaranth  marillat is down?09:05
Amaranthorhs: gdm is a login manager09:05
HappyFoolchombee: it's been down since friday, i think. hope you're patient ;)09:05
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Seveastwodeko, apt is great09:05
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Seveasbeats the hell out of portage :)09:05
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Amaranthyay! spam bots09:05
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chombeeHappyFool - I notice mplayer is on marillat though09:05
twodekoSeveas, Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "xfce4"09:05
gilaany one using Vaio Notebook ?] 09:05
orhsamaranth, yeah but were do i find it?09:05
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gilaany one using Vaio Notebook ?] 09:05
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Matthew_WYay for mini netsplits09:05
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HappyFoolchombee: marillat the path to the dark side is09:05
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gilahow to setup sound on this notebook09:05
djm62who spams irc? who throws a shoe?09:05
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Seveastwodeko, you need to enable universe09:05
Seveastwodeko: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto09:05
Seveastwodeko: Example config files can be found at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ExampleConffiles09:05
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Amaranththat is not a split09:06
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HappyFoolaaargh09:06
AmaranthSeveas: SET +R, QUICK09:06
chombeeat least, it looks like it is09:06
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SeveasAmaranth, hm?09:06
Matthew_WAmarath:  sorry, used to mIRC09:06
twodekothanks Seveas09:06
bastimy sound doesnt work, I installed the nVidia Treiber, but I cant change some options09:06
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wulfy814anone running vmware 5 in hoary - it kills my machine and offers terrible performance - P4 3.0 - 3 Gig RAM09:06
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djm620.009:06
HappyFoolchombee: using marillat packages can be troublesome for ubuntu systems. marillat is designed for debian, afaik09:06
HappyFoolwhat's +R do ?09:06
Amaranth+R means only registered users can join09:07
SeveasAmaranth, i have join/part msgs disabled09:07
Seveaswhat's up?09:07
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Amaranthit'll spot the bot flood, but it'll stop normal users too09:07
Amarantherr, stop09:07
Seveasah09:07
HappyFooli hope it's only temporary09:07
Matthew_Wslept: any ideas?09:07
Seveasbot flood09:07
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djm62PhantomFreak: anyway...after all that fun, do you want to run a command when you login, or when the system boots?09:07
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Amaranthi'll turn it off an a minute or two09:07
Seveasgood idea09:07
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SeamusLPIt's a good idea to register anyway09:07
Seveasand i'll keep show join/part enabled :)09:08
Amaranthgtg09:08
AmaranthSeveas: turn it off in one minute09:08
AmaranthSeveas: -R, remember09:08
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HappyFoolwho would bother spamming on irc anyway. bah.09:08
SeveasHappyFool, unfortunately, lots of people09:08
djm62I guess irc people are rich and gullible09:08
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_Magog_will anyone help me with this repo problem?09:09
SeamusLPI'm honestly not surprised.  People have come in the channel and said some pretty disgusting things09:09
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chombeeHappyFool - you know what, I gave him the sample sources.list from the Hoary guide, so it doesn't even contain marillat, just adds universe and multiverse I guess, so it's just the US thing. He seemed to get almost all packages though, just not a couple of mplayer ones09:09
twodekoSeveas, that was easy :p09:09
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Seveas_Magog_, what's the problem09:09
djm62woot!09:09
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flummoxseas09:10
djm62bbiab09:10
HappyFoolchombee: in that case it probably is the us.archive problem09:10
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_Magog_Seveas, i add http://mirror.my-space.ath.cx/unstable-20050215/ which has DR17, but apt-get and synatpic arent picking em up...i only see DR1609:10
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Matthew_WAnyone else know anything about USB hardware or BitPim?09:10
Seveas_Magog_, have you run apt-get update (or hit the reload button in synaptic)09:10
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_Magog_Seveas, yes and no 404 from the repo either09:11
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bastican noone help me?09:11
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JohnMurdochMay someone please link me to a guide showing how to install Ubuntu on a system which currently has WinXP?09:11
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raptoidSeveas,09:11
raptoidi see http://pastebin.ca/1434409:12
orhshey09:12
Matthew_Wjohns^: reboot and boot from the CD - it's magnificently easy09:12
PhantomFreakHow do I get a mknod command to run on boot, or create it in another way... Cos everythime I create the node I need it just disapears on boot!09:12
raptoidits correct ?09:12
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_Magog_JohnMurdoch, you dun need one, if you have a partition already clean ubuntu will see windows and take over the MBR09:12
raptoidSeveas, http://pastebin.ca/1434409:12
chrissturmmagog do a search for enlightenment_0.1709:12
SeveasJohnMurdoch, short guide: pop in install cd, reboot, follow the instructions09:12
raptoidyou see09:12
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JohnMurdoch_Magog_, hello, thanks for the helpful answer. So upon reboot, I will be presented with a choice to load Ubuntu or WinXP?09:12
HappyFoolPhantomFreak: what device is it ?09:12
Seveasraptoid, hmm, that's not correct :)09:13
JohnMurdochSeveas, hello, thank you too for the helpful answer. :) Same question09:13
_Magog_JohnMurdoch, correct09:13
Matthew_Wjohns^: yes, so long as you do not choose to overwrite winxp09:13
raptoidSeveas,  ?09:13
raptoidhelp me09:13
JohnMurdoch_Magog_, wow, I didn't know it would be that simple, thank you! =)09:13
raptoidhelp help09:13
PhantomFreak/dev/ttyLT0 - My dial-up modem! Otherwise it works!09:13
_Magog_np09:13
peter2gparted options to resize a drive cannot be selected, anyone an idea as why ?09:13
HappyFoolPhantomFreak: one way would be to add the mknod command to /etc/init.d/boostmisc.sh09:13
JohnMurdochMatthew_W, thank you too =)09:13
Matthew_Whehe No problem.09:13
_Magog_chrissturm, no results09:13
Seveasraptoid, use the sources at paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3809:13
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sleptMatthew_W, not really I never used usb serial port, you can go to the commandline unplug it and plug it  - then you'll get more information09:14
raptoidok09:14
chrissturmmagog: the e17 in these debs is 4 months old anyway :)09:14
Matthew_Wslept: explain that a little further?09:14
HappyFoolPhantomFreak: hrm. weird. It might be better to hack /etc/udev/ config files, but i could never get that right09:14
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Matthew_Wslept:  There is no change in lsusb when I plug/unplug, however, the phone (lg vx3200) realizes that it's been plugged in.09:15
salemWhen i play AVI files i can hear the sounds from the movie but cant see anything. Does anyone know why?09:15
Matthew_Wsalem:  What movie player/09:15
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salemTotem09:15
_Magog_chrissturm, :( i really wanna get DR17 its pretty...:P09:15
sleptMatthew_W, <ctrl> + <alt> + <F1>, log in , unplug,plug then ther should be some information09:16
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salemMatthew_W: totem09:16
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Matthew_Wsalem:  Try using mplayer, it's more supported etc.  Other than that, check your video codec or video output drivers.  Fiddle with them until you get one that works09:16
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uc50ic4moreFolks, I have a quick question - I have installed Ubuntu for several people thus far, and in each case I have *no* wallpaper on their desktop. My reasoning, from putting together audio/ video production machines running Windows for several years, was that I'd rather NOT use a few MB of RAM displaying a useless bitmap... On a desktop machine, with RAM plentiful and cheap these days, is this a bit too anal of me? A 1280 x 1024 24bpp image ju09:18
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_Magog_grrr guess no DR17 for  me09:18
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chombeeAnyone know about this Hoary Extras repos that seems to have popped up? What's on it?09:19
a-l-lehello, has anybody tried to install ubuntu on a fire wire external drive?09:19
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Pop_pa_FreaKcan someone dcc me a txt of their sources.list as for some reason mine is bogged up09:20
twodekoSeveas, not so sure how much i like this :/09:20
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Matthew_Wslept:  No messages, and didn't know how to get back into x.09:20
Matthew_Wslept: lol09:20
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sleptMatthew_W, <alt> +<F7>09:21
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salemMattew_W: i also have VLC but in it i can see but not hear??09:21
pepsiwhat does 'rather' mean?09:22
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sleptMatthew_W, did you just plugin a cable one side usb the other side serialport , or is there a device on it ?09:22
raptoidSeveas09:22
raptoidSeveas09:22
raptoidSeveas09:22
raptoidmay i add sadece paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 this to http://pastebin.ca/14344 there?09:22
a-l-leah, yes, on a powerbook.09:22
Matthew_Wslept:  Not entirely sure, one side is a USB, the other side attaches to my cell phone.09:23
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sleptpepsi:dict rather09:23
Seveasraptoid, no just replace :)09:23
Matthew_Wslept:  I had a similar cable for a motorola phone with no big lump device jigger in the middle that worked fine.09:23
Seveastwodeko, like what?09:23
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Matthew_Wslept: (for the motorola phone, which is now severely dated)09:23
twodekoSeveas, im just used to gentoo id say09:23
stjepanhi09:23
Seveastwodeko, ah :)09:23
pepsislept, command not found :P.. seriously though, is there a command line dictionary?09:23
stjepando you know how can I get screenshot from xfce?09:23
Seveaswell as said before, use what you are comfortable with09:23
twodekoi just like getting a computer started customized and i can build off it09:24
raptoidmay i add this paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 this to http://pastebin.ca/14344 there?09:24
raptoidSeveas,09:24
twodekostjepan, imagemagik09:24
Seveasraptoid, no just replace :)09:24
sleptpepsi, dict is one09:24
twodekocapture iirc09:24
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salemHow can i toggle between an internal soundcard and a soundblaster?09:24
Seveassalem, you have /dev/dsp1 and /dev/dsp209:24
Seveasjust make sure you use the one you want09:25
Zodiacsup dawgs09:25
stjepando you know any FAST, but REALLY FAST browser for Linux?09:25
salemSeveas: yes.09:25
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Juhazlynx.09:25
uc50ic4morestjepan - try dillo09:25
Seveasstjepan, links209:26
scott_How can I make my resolution 1280x102409:26
Seveasscott_: To find out ho you can change your dispplay's resolution, go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:26
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ZodiacDid anyone else get some kind of kernel update from Ubuntu manager?09:26
Rockett17q09:26
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raptoidSeveas,09:27
SeveasZodiac, yes, a few days ago09:27
raptoidhttp://www.rafb.net/paste/results/pmuewo66.html09:27
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twodekoSeveas, thanks for the help mate09:27
ZodiacWhat was it?09:27
twodekoill drop by here some time09:27
stjepanoh09:27
Seveasraptoid, you're just making it worse :)09:27
salemseveas: yes i have dsp1 and dsp209:27
Matthew_Wslept: It won't even autodetect on windoze xp though, which is bothersome.09:27
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Seveasraptoid, the lines in paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 are all you need09:27
stjepanI want a browser like FF09:28
Seveassalem, i know. It was not a question09:28
Seveassalem, i said: make sure you use the right one09:28
salemthanks09:28
ZodiacIs there a link I get some info about it?09:28
Seveassymlinking /dev/dsp to /dev/dsp1 will let you use 1, same for dsp209:28
sleptMatthew_W, what kind of cell phone is it09:28
djm62stjepan: but not FF...how do you want it to be unlike FF?09:28
SeveasZodiac, you can look at the changes in synaptic09:29
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ZodiacI can?09:29
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SeveasZodiac, and also: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/usn/usn-137-109:29
flummoxhey, how do i get the actual speed of my internet-connection using pppconfig/pppd ?09:30
Matthew_Wslept:  LG vx3200 or LG 320009:30
Matthew_Wslept: hehe, I work for Telus... I should probably know this stuff lol09:30
stjepandjm62, FF is so slow...09:30
stjepan:(09:30
Zodiacahhh09:31
ZodiacI see09:31
ZodiacOkay, thank you09:31
stjepanoh09:31
stjepandillo is fast09:31
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HappyFoolflummox: i'm not sure you can easily. one way is to download a biggish (compressed) file and see how long it takes ;)09:31
Bripsje vais voir dans mes paquets synaptic09:31
djm62stjepan: epiphany is a gtk browser which uses the same rendering engine as FF, but a bit lighter, I find konqueror a bit quicker in practice (although I don't like the rendering), and dillo is fast09:31
sleptMatthew_W, never heard of these , did you google for modelnumber and linux ?09:32
SeveasBrips, on parle anglais ici, pour aide en franais, va a #ubuntu-fr09:32
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Bripsoups sry ;)09:32
razWho here uses an antivirus under linux?09:32
HappyFoolme, at work09:32
we2bbyI have it installed09:32
djm62Seveas: is there a wiki page with that phrase in several languages or something?09:32
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Matthew_Wslept:  Yes, and followed the directions... so, I think I'll look for another cable *strangles www.wirelessaxis.com*09:33
we2bbybut never ran it09:33
HappyFooli use linuxshield at the insistence of our it department09:33
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Seveasdjm, no non nein njet nee09:33
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Matthew_Wdjm62: I'll just go out on a limb and say he speaks a couple of langs.09:33
sleptMatthew_W, good luck09:33
Matthew_Wlol09:33
Matthew_Wslept: thanks.09:33
infralitehow can i have synaptic check another cd drive if i have more than one?09:33
infraliteit's driving me crazy09:33
Seveasinfralite, yes09:33
razHappyFool, you recommand it?.'.09:33
pedropintoi want to install Ubuntu on some machines with local Portuguese language support but it isn't included on the install cd. is it on the dvd ?09:34
infraliteSeveas: yes?09:34
HappyFoolraz: well, it works. it definitely slows my linux box down just like it does my xp box09:34
Seveasoh cd-drive... dunno about that. i thought it should....09:34
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Seveasuse apt-cd add09:34
infralitehmm ok09:34
HappyFoolraz: problem is it only works with kernel 2.4 -- i believe a 2.6 version is due out this month09:34
infralitelemme give it a sht09:34
infralite*shot09:34
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infraliteerr, seems apt-cd doesn't exist? that can't be true.09:35
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Seveasapt-cdrom09:35
infraliteah, thanks09:35
Seveas(as you see, i don't use it too often :))09:35
Seveasinfralite, apt-cdrom -d can do good things too09:36
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Seveasinfralite, just type apt-cdrom for a summafy of the options09:36
infraliteSeveas: that was what i was checking over right now :)09:36
infralitethanks for the help09:36
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infraliteSeveas: says it cant open and "Permission denied" to my cd, should be because it's corrupt, right? cd's should have read access09:39
Seveasinfralite, apt-cdrom should be run as root iirc09:40
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infraliteah09:40
infralitesudo!09:40
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Seveasyes :)09:41
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XosgyzWhere should one start looking to try to fix a DNS problem?  I can ping my router but can't resolve a dns query09:42
kazI get debootstrap errors @ coreutils09:42
kazwhen installing.09:43
SeveasXosgyz, /etc/resolv.conf09:43
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SeveasXosgyz, look at the host/dig commands too for testing09:43
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Seveaskaz, set your location to something other than us/ca in the install09:43
XosgyzSeveas: If my router IP is in resolv.conf then I am somehow hosed right?:)09:43
Seveasor disable downloading from the network during install09:44
SeveasXosgyz, if your router doesn't do dns: yes09:44
kazlooking at the topic.....  I downloaded this install disc a couple days from the us archive... I guess I need to redownload.09:44
Seveaskaz, hmm, yeah could be :)09:45
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kazthere was an exploit or hack or something?09:45
Seveaskaz, no idea, it just gives errors....09:45
HappyFoolnever blame on malice what can be explained by incompetence or biscuits crumbs on the mainboard09:46
kazbreezy > hoary? (next release?)09:46
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kazI grabbed hoary 5.0.409:46
Seveaskaz, breezy is indeed the next release09:46
HappyFoolbreezy is currently for the foolhardy only09:46
kazso the hoary that I got should be ok? The debootstrap error is just some bug with networking or something?09:47
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Seveaskaz, yes, probably09:47
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naliothHappyFool: but not HappyFools?09:48
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HappyFoolnalioth: happyfools are known to be unstable-allergic09:48
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naliothHappyFool: :P09:49
jmain_I have a quick question.  Does ubuntu have the mppe patch in the kernel used for PPTP VPN client?09:50
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MuiskeCan anyone help me with this error?09:50
MuiskeMuiske X Error of failed request:  BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)09:50
MuiskeMuiske   Major opcode of failed request:  135 (XFree86-VidModeExtension)09:50
MuiskeMuiske   Minor opcode of failed request:  10 (XF86VidModeSwitchToMode)09:50
MuiskeMuiske   Value in failed request:  0x2c0000209:50
MuiskeMuiske   Serial number of failed request:  7009:50
MuiskeMuiske   Current serial number in output stream:  7209:50
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Seveasmuiske, do not paste in here09:50
Seveasyou will be un-muted soon09:50
liz4rdlol!!!09:51
liz4rdMUTED!!!09:51
liz4rdthats like...CUT09:51
liz4rd:P09:51
liz4rdok i'm done09:51
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Fabianhow can I update clamav???09:52
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SeveasFabian, with apt-get update :)09:52
naliothFabian: "sudo apt-get update"09:52
Seveasor otherwise: look at /usr/share/doc/09:52
naliothFabian: or try 'sudo freshclam" for updated virus defs09:52
HappyFoolFabian: a glance at clamav's description points to clamav-freshclam09:52
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kazunplugged net, restarted comptuer.... same problem.09:52
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kazdebootstrap error @ coreutils.09:53
mrbucketsAnyone have any success managing Linux clients from a Windows 2003 AD environment?09:53
kazI get the same error with kubuntu as well.  I have tried a different CD-Rom drive.09:53
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FabianHappyFool, nalioth, Seveas I tried sudo freshclam, and it downloaded a file, but it's somehow not up to date09:53
Seveaskaz, then your iso is bad09:53
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kazBOTH isos?09:53
kazkubuntu does the same, at the exact same spot. What are the odds of that?09:54
HappyFoolFabian: sorry dude. you'll need to read the docs to find out more09:54
HappyFoolmrbuckets: i have joined a CentOS 3.4 system to a Win 2003 AD domain09:54
HappyFoolmrbuckets: i had to upgrade to latest samba/krb5 though09:54
infraliteSeveas: hmm, it adds the cd in synaptic now but i see no new packages09:54
mrbucketsHappyFool: really?09:54
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scott_How Do I change my resolution to 1280x1024? I tried editing xorg.conf but it is read only and it won't let me change it09:55
HappyFoolmrbuckets: indeed really ;)09:55
viorkhttp://viork2.blogspot.com/09:55
viorkhttp://viork2.blogspot.com/09:55
mrbucketsHappyFool: so was that computer visible via AD?09:55
infraliteSeveas: sudo apt-cdrom -ad /media/cdrom1 add was what i did09:55
liz4rdSPAM!!!09:55
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liz4rd:P09:55
mrbucketsHappyFool: or just the user?09:55
liz4rdhttp://datapirate.ath.cx <-- hep get it started :D09:55
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liz4rdhrlp*09:55
HappyFoolmrbuckets: um. it's part of the domain -- not sure what you mean by visible via AD09:55
liz4rdhelp*09:55
liz4rd:P09:55
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HappyFoolmrbuckets: i could type '\\machinename' to view it at a windows box09:56
kazWhere could I get better support on this debootstrap issue? I don't believe my iso is bad.09:56
scott_all: How Do I change my resolution to 1280x1024? I tried editing xorg.conf but it is read only and it won't let me change it09:56
mrbucketsHappyFool: As in, if you were going to Manage Users and Computers (a windows management snap-in), would you see that computer in the console?09:56
kazI don't believe that both distros would fail at the exact same spot during the install.09:56
infralitekaz: why not do a md5 sum check?09:56
HappyFoolmrbuckets: i don't know. i don't have admin rights on the domain09:56
kazI don't have the .iso files here.09:56
infraliteah09:56
mrbucketsHappyFool: gotcha09:56
kazI am redownloading from a non-us site right now though.09:57
Seveaskaz, use cdimage.ubuntu.com09:57
FabianSeveas, removed freshclam and downloaded the datafiles instead, (both with synaptics) and when I restart the deamon now, it doesnt say anymore, it's outdated09:57
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sleptscott_, you need sudo , use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg if you are not sure what you are doing09:57
HappyFoolkaz: you can test the CD if you can mount it09:57
naliothFabian: so thats sorted, then09:58
HappyFoolkaz: in the root of the CD, 'md5sum -c md5sum.txt'09:58
kazwhat is 5.10? breezy?09:58
HappyFoolindeed. year.month09:58
Fabiannalioth, seams so09:58
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chombeeCan anyone here give me an idea of the state of support for USB HD enclosures on Ubuntu? I'm looking at a VanTec NexStar309:59
infraliteSeveas: it complains that no valid records were found10:00
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killerbunnyHow can i make the wheel on my intellimouse work ?10:00
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killerbunnyI look up the guide, but i cant find imwheel.10:00
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scott_slept: I did reconfigure and It does absolutely nothing10:00
Efwishow do I pull a trace file up from a debugger?10:00
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sleptscott_, did you restart the x server10:00
HappyFoolhmm, clamav looks interesting. i wonder if our it deparment would accept it as a linuxshield replacement10:01
yahalomi had sound yesterday now i dont. when i play xmms its playing. just no sound. i tried kill esd. still no sound. can someone help plz10:01
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yahalomeven when i log out there is no ubuntu drum on the gdm login screen10:01
despeehOption "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" in XF86Config-4 for mouse InputDevice10:01
xnoffanyone have experience with kismet?10:02
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naliothHappyFool: read an article on newsforge the other week (or was it /.) about a guy runnin his email server with multiple filters (one of which was clamav)10:02
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infraliteHappyFool: clamav works pretty well. I saw it catch the jpeg exploit the day it was submitted to securityfocus10:03
HappyFoolnalioth, infralite: cool, thanks. will do some more research10:03
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yahalomanybody?10:03
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scott_How do I make it so I don't get all these permission errors?10:04
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sleptyahalom, volume level  down ?10:04
infralitesudo?10:04
scott_like when i extract stuff10:04
yahalomslept, nope10:04
infralitescott_: use sudo before the command10:04
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scott_i mean to extract things10:04
yahalomslept, lol10:05
yahalomslept, yes10:05
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scott_I don't want to go to terminal for everything10:05
yahalomslept, but why wouldnt i get the drum on gdm, my xmms volume was down10:05
chombeeHappyFool - do you think my USB problem could be because I didn't insert the HD properly?10:05
infralitescott_: then you have to set permissions with chmod10:05
jmain_yahalom: I just tried the Live CD and the system had 2 options for Sound in the Volume app.  I had no sound until I changed to to the correct sound card.10:05
infraliteto wherever you are extracting10:05
sleptyahalom, thats pcm it's systemwide look at a mixer whwn you turn it down10:06
infraliteit can be done with gnome's nautilus10:06
concept10Anyone use GnomeBaker or are you guys using K3B10:06
yahalomjmain_, thanx10:06
yahalomslept, thanx10:06
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scott_infralite: how do I do that exactly10:06
naliothconcept10: i use k3b10:06
infralitescott_: right click, properties => perms10:06
despeehscott : chmod u+rwx   :)10:07
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concept10nalioth, I thought gnome baker was a great idea but its not stable10:07
infralitedespeeh: lol10:07
HappyFoolchombee: hrm, i dunno10:07
raznalioth, any way in k3b to open a disc and continue a previous session?10:07
concept10oh well back to k3b10:07
iggy_need some help whith installing mysql10:07
HappyFoolchombee: try unplugging the HD, and plugging in the cage (err, or whatever you call it)10:07
HappyFoolchombee: see if dmesg registers anything10:07
Fabianwhy does it take so long to set up the network interfaces on startup? could it be, because it searches vor wlan and cant find or similar?10:07
despeehiggy what a kind of help do u need10:07
naliothconcept10: not quite yet, anyway10:07
scott_despeeh: it says too few arguments10:07
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iggy_have installed it whith syntaptic10:07
jmain_Does installing k3b install all the KDE libraries? or are they already installed on a fresh install?10:07
naliothraz i'm not sure, i only burn single-sessions10:08
despeehchmod u+rwx (file)10:08
infralitescott_: you have to tell it a file at the end10:08
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naliothjmain_: it only installs the required libraries10:08
infralitescott: or a directory10:08
concept10jmain_, yes, it install alot of libraries.  I just installed. 111mb10:08
scott_Can't you just make it so that I have permision to edit everything?10:08
iggy_i can do mysql but there are only empty tables10:08
naliothFabian: there is an article on the wiki to address the network startup delay10:08
scott_can I just do chmod u+rwx /10:08
concept10jmain_, ed to get 39.7MB/39.8MB of archives.10:09
concept10After unpacking 111MB of additional disk space will be used.10:09
jmain_I use k3b currently in my super hacked up mepis install.  I plan on moving to ubuntu but was wondering about cd burning.10:09
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naliothjames__: k3b is k3b10:09
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sleptscott_, you don't want  to mess up your hole system don't chmod /10:10
concept10just installed k3b, no menu item for it :(10:10
iggy_but how do i configure mysql after install?10:10
scott_slept: how do you undo that?10:10
Seveasiggy_, use phpmyadmin if you want a simple interface10:10
sleptscott_, reinstall10:10
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bronson_Anyone know why ddd complains about a missing elf/start.S?10:11
scott_slept: thanks....10:11
jmain_I rarely use the menu in gnome.  I just use the run command for everything.10:11
bronson_I've got libc6-dbg installed.10:11
despeehiggy do u use phpmysql?10:11
scott_infralite: it says operation not permitted10:11
Fabiannalioth, have you got a link?10:12
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iggy_i have installed php10:12
scott_How do you make something not read-only10:12
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despeehi suppose there is webmin mysql exist too10:12
Seveasscott_, with chmod10:12
jmain_scott_: chmod +rw10:13
chrissturmphpmyadmin is also very nice10:13
scott_would it be -rw?10:13
HappyFoolscott_: what do you want to change to be not read-only ?10:13
scott_xorg.conf10:13
naliothFabian: not atm, use the seach10:13
HappyFoolscott_: and how are you trying to edit it ?10:13
iggy_okay got phpmyadmin but now i need first configure account for mysql10:13
scott_happyfool: gedit10:13
HappyFoolscott_: you need to have 'root' (adminstrative) users to edit that file10:13
Seveasiggy_, use root with no password for the first login10:14
HappyFoolscott_: try 'sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf'10:14
Seveasiggy_, and please change that login asap :)10:14
scott_woah10:14
scott_happyfool:thanks10:14
HappyFoolscott_: you need to have 'root' (administrative) *rights* to edit that file (correction, my apologies)10:14
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iggy_he already says acces denied10:14
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scott_happyfool: how do you make it so I don't need sudo all the time?10:15
concept10anyone know how to change that ugly font in k3b?10:15
HappyFoolscott_: preferably, you don't ;)10:15
jmain_Scott_:You do not want to do that.10:15
naliothconcept10: if nobody answers you here, try #kubuntu or #kde10:15
scott_happyfool: why is that10:15
HappyFoolscott_: mostly protecting yourself from yourself10:15
concept10I need to change my whole system font Ubuntu comes with a horrible default font10:15
HappyFoolscott_: as an ordinary user you can't easily break your machine10:16
Fabiannalioth, can't find..... :(10:16
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iggy_seveas help? :D10:16
HappyFoolscott_: but as root... well. it's very easy10:16
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scott_happyfool:  you can just call me a noob ;-)10:16
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scott_happyfool:  so basically If you aren't smart enough to give yourself root access you aren't worth of being root?10:17
naliothscott_: one keystroke as root can hose your whole system beyond recovery10:17
TMMhey all!10:17
jmain_scott_: Running as a restricted user is a good thing.  This is what makes Linux, BSD, OS X much more secure then Windows.10:17
HappyFoolscott_: bear in mind that once you've entered a password for 'sudo', you shouldn't need to do so again if you use sudo within a few minutes again10:17
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scott_happyfool:  okay, I'm gonna see if this worked10:18
TMMI'm having a little problem, I build my own kernel with kernel-package from the sources apt-getted (which claim to have ubuntu patches) I copy the config from /boot, build the kernel with make-kpkg --initrd buildpackage (no changes) and my vesafb won't work with that kernel... shouldn't it be identical to the ones provided with ubuntu?10:18
scott_happyfool:  brb10:18
HappyFoolgood luck10:18
TMMcan someone tell he what (if anything) I'm doing wrong?10:19
naliothHappyFool: sudo is the steel-bottomed sixgun holster of linux10:19
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HappyFoolnalioth: heh10:19
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SeveasTMM, there are not much kernel experts here, maybe you should try #ubuntu-kernel10:20
HappyFoolnalioth: some people *like* sore feet10:20
TMMweird part is, according to dmesg it doesn't even TRY to load vesafb10:20
TMMSeveas, ah, thanks10:20
scott_okay I still can't change my resolution to 1280x102410:20
naliothHappyFool: keeps ya from shootin yerself in the foot (or a much more tender spot)10:20
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Seveasscott_, restart the X server after editing xorg.conf10:20
naliothscott what driver are you using?10:20
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scott_for what10:20
iggy_how can i log in10:21
jpatotaim having this problem with apt-get on on http://us.archive.ubuntu.com10:21
naliothjpatota: read the /topic10:21
Seveasjpatota: To switch to a working mirror type the following:  sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update10:21
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scott_nalioth: what driver am I using for what?10:21
naliothscott_: please address us by name (whomever you are talking to)10:21
jpatotathanks10:21
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naliothscott_: your 1280x1024 driver10:22
Seveasiggy_, on a freshly installed mysql server you can login with user root without password. Only from localhost10:22
scott_nalioth: I am using default drivers for everything10:22
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Fabiannalioth, at this inofficial page it says to press Ctrl+C, but I want to start the network.... can't be the solution, can it?10:23
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naliothSeveas: VESA should enable scott_'s system to display 1280x1024, correct?10:23
Seveasnalioth, ENOCLUE10:23
naliothFabian: its either one way or the other. you decide which you'd rather have10:23
Seveasi'm no X expert10:23
savetheclocktowrquick question: if i've got a hard drive with ubuntu already installed, and i want to set it up on a windows machine to dual-boot, then all i have to do is put the drive in and install a bootloader, right?  how would i go about that?10:23
naliothscott_: you have run the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, right?10:23
scott_nalioth: yes10:24
scott_nalioth: I must warn you I am a complete linux noob10:24
naliothscott_: what driver did you choose during that process?10:24
Fabiannalioth, too bad... :( why does linux take so long to start!?10:24
scott_nalioth: I think Vesa10:24
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Seveassavetheclocktowr, on the machine you boot from a livecd, mount your ubuntu install, chroot into it and run grub-install10:24
naliothscott_: are you running a tube monitor or lcd?10:25
glDaheram not happy with something... when getting applications. most of the time you don't know what it is, and it has dependencies... now I wanna remove it, and I don't remember those depends. =/ is there a way to remove all dependencies if only this app depends on them?10:25
savetheclocktowrSeveas: sounds good, thanks10:25
SeveasglDaher, look at debfoster10:25
jmain_scott_: what video card do you have in your system.  I think Vesa is lowest common denominator.10:25
scott_nalioth: I was wrong, I used ATI10:25
naliothFabian: its "why does Ubuntu take so long to start" and the answer is "cuz the devs made it so"10:25
sleptscott_, did you restart the xserver - do you know how to do that  (<ctrl>+ <alt>+<backspace>). If you don't restart nothing will change10:25
SnowWritehi I'm having issues with webmin on ubuntu.. the network configuration module won't show in the interface..10:25
naliothscott_: try VESA10:25
SeveasglDaher, if you install things using aptitude, all dependencies will be removed when uninstalling10:25
scott_nalioth: ok10:26
naliothslept: he rebooted or logged out10:26
sleptoh I see10:26
mibertoHi ubuntues, I have a problem with hoary. When I start with the AC plug the screen light i high, but if I start without AC it is low and it's not possible to swich between like I used with the previous release. Any idea?10:26
scott_nalioth: brb10:26
Fabiannalioth, but every linux takes longer than for example windows! and why did the devs make ubuntu take long to start?10:26
glDaherSeveas: I use the synaptic manager10:26
naliothFabian: a lot of that is that linux is not designed to be a desktop OS10:26
SeveasglDaher, maybe synaptic does it too, i don't know it :)10:27
naliothFabian: linux is a "Server" OS first10:27
naliothFabian: and is designed to virtually NEVER have to be turned off10:27
Seveasbut debfoster is very good at cleaning up unneeded dependencies10:27
slept scott_ , maybe you have to change the sync ranges for your monitor10:27
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naliothFabian: so when you only restart your machine once every 2 or 3 months (or way way longer), restart time isnt an issue10:27
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zapadahey, when are the new ubuntu cds going to ship?10:28
Fabiannalioth, that's true.... but as linux becomes so popular as a desktop OS, why don't they work to make it faster?10:28
glDaherSeveas: synaptic has two remove options, mark for removal, and mark for complete removal... could it be the later?10:28
razAny way in k3b to open previous session on a disk and write??10:28
mfabbrihi10:28
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naliothFabian: some linux' are faster, its all how its coded and arranged to work together10:29
HappyFoolFabian: it is being worked on ;)10:29
HappyFoolFabian: patience10:29
naliothFabian: check this out: www.linuxfromscratch.org10:29
jmain_My G4 Mac boots to desktop in 20 Secs :)10:29
sleptSnowWrite, try /etc/init.d/webmin restart10:29
naliothjmain_: you mean your OSX on your G4, right?10:29
jmain_yeah10:29
mfabbriis there any way to limit resources allocated by bash processes for all the user10:29
SnowWritedid that..:-(10:29
naliothjmain_: i run ubuntu on a G3 and G4 iBook, and it takes a couple minutes10:30
jmain_Nalioth: I only use Linux on my work Laptop.10:30
mfabbrii.e. avoiding shell fork bombs?10:30
sleptraz, works fine10:30
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naliothjmain_: i run ubuntu on my macs cuz i can10:30
razslept, how? what button/option? don't see it.10:30
naliothjmain_: OSX is deeply tied to the hardware, and backgrounds the S**t out of a lot of startup processes10:31
SeveasglDaher, no10:31
jmain_Nalioth: I really like OS X.  But My Laptop is a Toshiba and Windows runs like crap on it.10:31
Fabiannalioth, yeah, heared about LFS. But's nothing for me, I think! ;) too new to linux10:31
Seveascomplete removal is apt-get remove --purge10:31
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naliothjmain_: i wouldnt wish winduhs on anyone10:31
naliothFabian: you could do it. its very informative and step-by-step10:32
_linuxAS_hi10:32
naliothFabian: it would teach you SO much about linux and unix10:32
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sleptraz, select burn, settings,  multisession,  continue..10:32
razslept, thanky10:32
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Fabiannalioth, I'll have a look at it....10:32
Fabiannalioth, who knows? :D10:32
naliothFabian: you can d/l the book and read at your pleasure10:32
hodgmanhello, I'm trying to apt-get iptraf program and I'm getting a MD5Sum mismatch10:33
Seveashodgman, look at the topic10:33
jmain_I have a question.  Does x.org gnome 2.10 have a better copy/paste support?10:33
naliothFabian: do you see Fabian-linux in the future?10:33
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philuk86does anyone know if mono will be included in the next release of ubuntu in the main repository?10:33
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Seveasphiluk86, it will10:33
Seveasphiluk86, including beagle & tomboy10:33
jmain_It is the one thing that drives me crazy on my laptop.10:33
hodgmanSeveas: thanks!10:33
LinuxJoneshodgman, your using the us.archive.ubuntu linux repositories ?10:33
kazhow do I burn an iso in ubuntu?10:34
macarthyHi, I'm have problems connecting to the remote desktop manager in ubuntu from a VNC viewer on a mac10:34
kaznm10:34
Seveaskaz, gnomebaker/graveman/k3b10:34
naliothkaz: gnomebaker, graveman k3b, cdrecord, blah blah10:34
hodgmanLinuxJones: most likely I'll go check in a sec10:34
Seveasbut you can just mount it10:34
naliothmacarthy: what exactly is the prob?10:34
LinuxJoneshodgman, remove the us. portion as they are borked atm. then apt-get update and try isntalling again10:34
Fabiannalioth, do I see Fabian-linux? Yes, I suppose so! I like building up the stuff as I like it! :D Implemented X to work with borland compiler on windows, cause I didnt want to use cygwin f.e. :D10:34
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kazlooks like I can just right click & "Write to disc"  no?  or would just just put iso file on the disk?10:35
scott_all: it didn't work10:35
naliothkaz: i use a program (not nautilus)10:35
macarthynalioth: getting a connection refused. on the pref. panel it refers to the local machine as localhost.localdomain:010:35
scott_nalioth: it didn't work10:35
kazdoes nautilus do it though?10:36
jmain_scott_: what happens when you restart X?10:36
naliothkaz nautilus has built-in burning capability (similar to XP)10:36
scott_nalioth: I still don't have the option to change to 1280:102410:36
Fabiannalioth, where can I download that book? Im blind or something.... :/10:37
naliothscott_: did you "choose" that res when you went thru the dpkg-reconfigure thang?10:37
kazbut does it burn an .iso file to disc and expand it? or would it just burn the actual iso file to disc?10:37
naliothFabian: there is a 'download' link somewehre there10:37
kazI only have 1 CD here... I can't mess up :(10:37
naliothkaz i dont use nautilus, i use k3b10:37
scott_nalioth: there was no option10:37
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jmain_Scott_:What did you choose for your Monitor?10:37
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Fabiannalioth, can't find it... *searchesveryhard"10:38
scott_nalioth: vesa10:38
naliothscott_: theres a section during the process that asks what rez' you want to be able to use10:38
scott_nalioth: is it possible for you to like vnc me or something10:38
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despeehscott not easy :)10:38
scott_:-(10:39
scott_nalioth: there is no option unless I skipped over it10:39
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jmain_scott_: It sounds like perhaps you did not specify your correct monitor and the system is only showing reduced screen res.10:39
naliothscott_: the option is there10:40
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despeehscott just use SSH connection with jmain or nalioth , they will fix your computer :)10:40
mfabbriscott_, what's the problem with vnc?10:41
scott_mfabbri: I have not problem with vnc10:41
naliothFabian: on the left: http://lfs.crash404.com/lfs/news.html10:41
kazis there something that I can easily intall with apt-get to burn isos?10:41
naliothdespeeh: why not you?10:42
naliothkaz graveman, gnomebaker, k3b10:42
mfabbrikaz, you can just use nautilus10:42
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sleptkaz, cdrecord10:43
naliothscott_: i take no responsiblity if lightning strikes while i'm doing this10:43
kazI couldn't find graveman or gnomebaker in apt-cache search10:43
Seveaskaz, enable universe10:43
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kazah10:43
Fabiannalioth, Get printed?10:43
Matthew_WDo you guys know of a TCP/IP optimizer for linux that I could install from a deb or rpm10:43
Matthew_W?10:43
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sleptkaz , cdrecord dev=ATAPI:/dev/hd.. image.iso replace ..  with c or d10:44
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GandalfarThe question that I was asking myself a couple times already, is there ubuntu netinstall image for usb keys?10:45
naliothg2g the phone never stops10:45
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SeveasGandalfar, there is a 50mb netinstall image10:45
GandalfarSeveas: great! where? :)10:45
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chombeeAm I being a fool or are all 3.5" IDE drives the same, ie.: they're all the same size?10:46
zapadawhen are the new ubuntu cds going to ship?10:46
jmain_chombee: Some may be thicker.  The length and width should be the same.10:47
^thehatsrule^zapada: check a month or a bit after you sent a req i think10:47
ghitahello:Can someone help me to play a dvd with totem.I folowed ubuntu guide and totem is still not playing my dvd.I get 'could not open dvd://'10:47
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zapada^thehatsrule^: i sent request last october for version 4.010:47
zapadaand i got those10:47
zapadabut i thought they send some every 6months10:47
zapada(version 5.0)10:48
Gandalfarzapada: you have to rerequest them :)10:48
Fabiannalioth_wrkn, found it! :D10:48
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zapadaok10:48
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Fabiani'm gonna read! want a copy of my future distro!?10:48
qpidUrteilverkndung im jackson prozess!10:48
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SeveasGandalfar, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/LocalNetInstall10:49
zapadaso... lets make bets on jackson's verdict10:49
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biovorelol10:49
zapadai say: guilty with 15years prison - no parol10:49
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chombeehmm... well, nobody buy an ME-740 HD enclosure, they suck10:49
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GandalfarSeveas: isn't this PXE boot stuff?10:50
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SeveasGandalfar, ehm right...10:50
Seveaswait10:50
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Seveasi've seen it somewhere...10:50
FabianI'm off reading, cu all!10:51
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philuk86he'll get off10:51
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GandalfarSeveas: you've done this pxe stuff before? I have most of functionality already implemented, I can try it10:51
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Fabianbuy Seveas, thanks for your help again. I'm gonna build my own distro now! :D10:52
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GandalfarFabian: livecd? :)10:52
Fabianno, LFS10:52
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Razor-Xhmmm, can someone help me getting TeX working?10:52
FabianGandalfar, you want a livecd, or what?10:52
GandalfarFabian: just wondering .. :)10:53
SeveasRazor-X, install tetex-base tetex-extras10:53
Razor-XFabian: why not remaster like Knoppix, or something?10:53
tritiumRazor-X, what's the trouble?10:53
Razor-XSeveas: that's obvious10:53
Gandalfarhttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/LocalNetInstall10:53
Razor-Xdvipdf is crapping on my fonts10:53
FabianGandalfar, Razor-X, I'll inform you when my iso image is online10:53
SeveasRazor-X, use pdflatex10:53
Razor-Xwhereas, the dvi viewer is working fine10:53
tritiumRazor-X, use dvipdfm10:53
Razor-XSeveas: ok10:53
Razor-Xerr, ok10:53
GandalfarFabian: great, gandalfar@gmail.com :)10:54
tritiumAs Seveas mentions, pdflatex is great too.  It depends on your needs.10:54
Razor-Xtritium: thanks ;)10:54
Razor-XFabian: what's the aim of the distro10:54
Fabianhang on... *notesdownemail*10:54
GandalfarFabian: I'm into livecd building myself so I might help you with a tip or two :)10:54
Razor-Xtritium: what are the differences?10:54
Seveaspdflatex rules10:54
tritiumRazor-X, do you have figures in .eps format?10:54
Razor-Xtritium: nothing fancy yet, just learning for the moment10:54
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FabianGandalfar, I'm coming back on you! :D10:54
Razor-XSeveas: that's what i'll start doing ;)10:54
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Razor-XFabian: what's the goal of the distro?10:55
tritiumRazor-X, okay.  The main difference you'll notice at first is the differnence in which image formats you can use with each approach.10:55
Razor-XI still have to make my math Live CD, I've read the docs, and have a plan10:55
FabianRazor-X, dunno! MY perfect distro! ;) maybe it's YOUR perfect distro too?10:55
Razor-Xtritium: lemme google up the docs10:55
Razor-XFabian: you mean, something rivaling Ubuntu?10:55
Fabianf.e.10:55
Fabianor Knoppix or whatever10:55
tritiumRazor-X, texdoctk is a very nice tool...10:56
Fabianbeing faster, more stable, etc10:56
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Fabian@all we'll see, what I'm able to do! CU10:56
Razor-XFabian: good luck then10:56
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Fabianthx10:56
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Razor-Xanyways, brb, time to try and make my damned school counselors give me the math course I deserve10:57
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glDahersudo /etc/init.d/sshd start    gives    sudo: /etc/init.d/sshd: command not found10:59
SeveasglDaher, install openssh-server10:59
eruinhow is ati linux support these days?10:59
eruinup to par with nvidia?10:59
biovorenope10:59
Seveaseruin, no10:59
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eruinstill not? curses. they're cheaper ;)10:59
Seveasbut that's ATI's fault10:59
eruinofcourse it is. I just read somewhere that they were going to step up their linux support. and that document was written a LONG time ago11:00
biovoregood 2d support though..11:00
Efwishow would I get a stack trace for a bug report?11:00
glDaherI was looking for sshd not openssh ^^11:00
biovoresamething..11:00
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kazDamnit.  SAME problem. Just redownloaded hoary-install-i386.iso from cdimage.ubuntu.org .... still getting debootstrap error @ coreutils. Wtf.11:00
SeveasglDaher, openssh-server is sshd..11:00
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LokeDKDoes Ubuntu come with XFree86 or xorg ? Can't find out11:01
aimazfirefox is bugging me to upgrade, my current version is 1.0.2, the latest being 1.0.4 i think, there is a 1.0.4 in breezy, currently I'm on hoary, what do you guys reccomend?11:01
aimazLokeDK, xorg11:01
Seveasaimaz, ff in hoari IS 1.0.411:01
aimazwell mine did11:01
LokeDKGood thanks11:01
biovore^ rgr that..11:01
Seveasit has all security patches applied11:01
eruinanyone on ubuntu/amd64 here?11:01
Seveasthey just did not change the version number11:02
aimazSeveas, ok, ta11:02
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kazdoes anyone know what this debootstrap error @ coreutils during install is about?11:03
kazI cant find anything relevant on google.11:03
biovoreyou compiling coreutils from source?11:04
kazI've downloaded 3 different isos now (one of kubuntu) tried multiple CD-rom drives. The install errors at the same spot every time.11:04
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kazfrom the installer.11:04
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biovoredeb probablem..11:04
biovorehmmm11:04
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kazwouldn't other people have the same problem?11:05
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scott_Can somebody help me set my resolution to 1280x1024?11:05
kazit says "couldn't retrieve coreutils"11:05
chillywillyanyone know of an easy way to burn an audio cd (nautilus? rhythmbox?)11:05
biovorecoreutils missing on the mirror maybe..11:06
Seveas kaz burn the iso at a lower speed11:06
zapadaDIE MICHAEL11:06
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tritiumchillywilly, graveman or gnomebaker11:06
biovoredebootstrap is the tool that pulls stuff of the web to makes the base image to starting installing stuff too..11:06
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scott_I cannot set my resolution to 1280x1024 can somebody please help me?11:06
Seveasbiovore, it pulls it from the cd...11:06
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Seveascoreutils has not been updated since the release...11:07
biovoreyeah, with the ubuntu disk set..11:07
biovorescott: check you horiz and vertrefresh in xorg.conf11:07
TokenBada friend wants to of any linux distro with windows enviroment that will work on 400 mhz with 64 megs of ram laptop11:07
kazseveas: I'm burning at 8x.11:07
kazI was originally burning at like 16x11:08
kazI would think 8x would be low enough?11:08
TokenBadI always burn at 4x11:08
biovorecheck the md5sum of the cd after burning..11:08
TokenBadjust to be safe11:08
Seveaskaz, indeed, i assume you checked the md5sums...11:08
kazhmm yeah.  I'm trying different media now too.11:08
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TokenBadanyone know of a distro that would work for him?11:09
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tritiumaimaz, to be clear it's 1.0.2, with all the security fixes from 1.0.4.11:09
kazI have been using this cheap ass GQ media. Maybe that is the problem.11:09
biovoreTokenBad, knoppix is a good start..  but most of the newer stuff will run like a slug on that..11:09
LinuxJonesTokenBad, there is damn small linux11:09
SeveasTokenBad, ubuntu with xfce or fluxbox11:09
biovore^ thats a intressting disto..11:10
tritiumaimaz, if you need to, go to "about:config", and set "general:useragent:vendorSub" to "1.0.4", and you're all set11:10
aimaztritium, ok thanks :)11:10
tritiumaimaz, sure :)  You'll be able to use extensions and themes, etc...11:10
TokenBadLinuxJones, know the name of it?11:11
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TokenBadbut he wants one with a windows enviroment11:11
LinuxJonesTokenBad, Damn Small Linux :)11:11
TokenBadlike gnome or kde11:11
TokenBador something like that11:11
SeveasTokenBad, xfce11:12
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Seveasreally good and not too heavy on resources11:12
LinuxJonesTokenBad, xfce or icewm are good candidates for that machine11:12
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Seveasso UBuntu with xfce would be a good option11:12
minhi!!!11:13
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mincould someone help me???11:13
min:)11:13
TokenBadok11:13
Seveasmin, read the topic11:13
Seveasjust ask11:13
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mini have just installed ubunto on my pc...11:13
min...but the refresh frequence that i can chose is only 60hz!11:14
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TokenBadSeveas, if he used xfce what version of nix should he get and put that on?11:15
scott_for some reason when I do sudo apt-get install alsamixergui11:15
SeveasTokenBad, aptitude install xfce411:15
scott_for some reason when I do sudo apt-get install alsamixergui it says unable to fetch some archives11:16
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glDahermin you should install the graphics driver first, if you are nvidia at least..11:16
TokenBadso he could get ubuntu and then install xfce?11:16
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FaeWolfeWould this be the right place to ask for help ?11:16
skorafaewolfe, yes, and on the forum as well11:16
glDahermin: what is your graphics card?11:17
FaeWolfeGood, I'm having trouble trying to install a few things..........forgive me, I'm a newbie...............11:17
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scott_for some reason when I do sudo apt-get install alsamixergui it says unable to fetch some archives11:17
Seveasscott_, see topic :)11:17
TokenBadSeveas, he could get ubuntu and then install xfce? or should he get something different?11:17
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FaeWolfeI can't get the dvd player to play, says it can't read the disk, but it worked in windows.......11:18
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skorak11:18
scott_seveas: It says have a question just ask11:18
FaeWolfebut it does show that it's there and says the title of the disk11:18
TMMFaeWolfe, you probably need to install libdvdcss211:18
SeveasTokenBad, install ubuntu with the server option and install x-window-system and xfce4 afterwards11:18
Seveasscott_, the part next to it11:18
FaeWolfeTMM ..how ?11:18
Seveasabout us.archive being down11:18
scott_seveas: oh wow that got cut off11:18
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TMMFaeWolfe, check out www.ubuntuguide.org :) it's the all you can eat pimp-my-ubuntu page :)11:19
skorahttp://www.ubuntuguide.org/#dvdplayback11:19
flodinemichael jackson is free to play with kids again11:19
skoraFaewolfe, that section11:19
scott_seveas: how do I change11:19
flodinenot guity11:19
FaeWolfeokies thank you11:19
Seveasscott_: To switch to a working mirror type the following:  sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update11:19
FaeWolfewill try that11:19
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skoraok, I don't really care.11:19
skora[to that jackson guy] 11:19
scott_seveas: terminal knows what && means?11:20
flodinewho cares if you dont sare11:20
Seveasscott_, yes11:20
scott_seveas: impressive11:20
tritiumflodine, please, that's off topic11:20
scott_seveas: can you do ||11:20
Seveasscott_, yes11:21
scott_seveas: lol11:21
Seveasbut that would not have the desired effect11:21
Seveas(in this case)11:21
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scott_seveas: thank you11:22
Seveasyw11:22
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scott_seveas: I am trying to get my sound card working but it isn't even listed in alsa mixer11:23
glDaherjust installed openssh client and server... and I don't have sshd in my /etc/init.d11:23
glDaher11:23
glDaherthough I have ssh11:23
Seveas /etc/init.d/ssh11:23
Seveasnot sshd11:24
Seveasscott_, sorry, i'm no audio wizzard11:24
TokenBadSeveas, so once he installed ubuntu11:24
scott_seveas: can you connect to my comp and try to fix it, It could be some obvious error11:24
TokenBadhe could do apt-get install x-window-system11:25
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naliothscott_: are you still on about that?11:25
TokenBadand apt-get install xfce411:25
SeveasTokenBad, yes11:25
TokenBadok11:25
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Seveasscott_, no i cannot do that, it's 23:25 here and i'm going to bed soon11:25
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glDahergrr, * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...                                      [fail] 11:25
scott_seveas: okay thanks anyway11:25
naliothscott_: have you installed a vnc server?11:26
TokenBadthanks Seveas11:26
Matthew_WI've been told that running on AC power frags your laptop -- is there validity to this?11:26
SeveasMatthew_W, only on laptops with old NiCad batterys11:26
scott_seveas: I think so11:26
scott_seveas: if I vncviewer myself it works11:26
Seveasif you have a Li_ION battery it's ok to run on AC11:26
naliothscott_: are you talking to me?11:26
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scott_ok11:27
naliothnight Seveas11:27
tritiumsee you Seveas11:27
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TokenBadtake care Seveas11:27
TokenBadand thanks again11:27
scott_thanks!11:27
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glDaheryeah thanks Seveas11:28
kazugh. Still didn't work.  Ok how do i check the md5 of a mounted cd?11:29
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Matthew_WSeveas:  so it's okay to leave my laptop running on AC for 11+ hours to download a humongous file?11:31
tritiumMatthew_W, what type of battery do you have?11:32
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kazanyone know how to check md5 vcalue of a cd?11:34
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tritiumkaz, check the md5sum of the .iso file before you burn it to cd11:35
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naliothkaz: you asked that before and it was answered11:36
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TokenBadshoot11:36
FaeWolfeI'm still having trouble with dvd playback... :(11:36
TokenBadI should have asked Seveas a question before he left11:36
PhantomFreakHow do I get mozilla / firefox to connect across a dial-up connection rather than ignoring it and looking towards the ethernet.11:37
FaeWolfeand it won't get libdvdcss211:37
TokenBadphantom11:37
TokenBaddo edit11:37
TokenBadpreferences11:38
TokenBadconnections11:38
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TokenBadand I think auto detect11:38
TokenBadI think11:38
TokenBaddon't quote me11:38
chillywillyum, when I insert an audio CD nautilus show the wav files but I cannot copy them to my Desktop11:38
jotm1124howdy11:39
chillywillywill show11:39
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PhantomFreakHad it on auto all the tim... Doesn't work!11:39
kazthe md5sum of the iso file matches.  I'm not sure what the problem is here.11:39
kazI guess I'll have to try to burn at 4x now.11:39
syndkaz: whats the prob?11:40
naliothkaz: is your hardware functional? no cat hair, its not ancient hardware, etc?11:40
kazdebootstrap error @ coreutils during install.11:40
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tritiumchillywilly, why not use cdda2wav, or a similar tool?11:40
syndkaz: a user was in here yesterday and thought he had cd burning problems, and it turned out to be the actual drive on the computer that he was trying to install on11:41
kazand yes, my harddware is clean... I've tried ubuntu, kubuntu, multiple cd-r media types, lower recording speeds, different recorders & different cd-rom drives.11:41
kazsam error every time.11:41
chillywillytritium: umm, well why is nautilus showing them as wav files if I cannot manipulate them as files11:41
chillywillytritium: it's way easier to drag and drop? ;^)11:41
tritiumchillywilly, you said it's an audio cd, right?11:41
chillywillyyes11:41
chillywillyI assume nautilus is using a virtual file system type thing under the hood so it should do the conversion if I decide to drag them off11:42
kazI've also tried with and without networking.11:42
Matthew_Wtritium:  sorry it took so long - it's a lithium ion11:42
tritiumI don't think so, chillywilly11:42
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tritiumMatthew_W, you should be fine with lithium ion.  They dont' have the memory effect problems that NiCd do.11:43
chillywillytritium: don't think so what?11:43
kazI'm going to try a 3rd cd-rom drive now.11:43
tritiumkaz, if you've had problems with multiple CD images, the the problem is not likely to be the md5sum of the ubuntu .iso11:43
Matthew_WThanks11:43
tritiumchillywilly, that you can copy .wav files from an audio cd11:43
tantrisHi! I just installed ubuntu but no gdm is installed? any idea why?11:43
FaeWolfeDoes anyone have any suggestions other than the unofficial ubuntu guide for being able to get libdvdcss2?11:44
tritiumFaeWolfe, where did you try to get it from?  ftp.nerim.net?11:44
chillywillytritium: yea, ok but if it will let me browse them and play them by holding the mouse over them then I would think "copy" would be a legal file operation...I was just stating that it *should* work that way, it seems logical11:44
FaeWolfetritium, I followed what it said in the guide                :(11:45
chillywillytritium: I know I can lways use grip or a command line tool ;)11:45
kaztritium:: thats what I had thought as well.11:45
chillywillyalways*11:45
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FaeWolfeI even did what it said to get the other repositories11:45
tritiumchillywilly, such "legal file operations" would require a mounted filesystem11:46
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xophErIf I want to add a user to /etc/sudoers with visudo, what do I need to type in? lets say the username is joeblack.11:46
eruinhow is nforce3 vs nforce4 support on linux?11:47
chillywillydoes a virtual file system imply that it has to be a *mounted* file system? I would hope not11:47
berniv6nforce3 is good, I heard bad things about the NIC part of nforce411:47
eruinyeah, I've heard its' more unstable than california11:47
tritiumxophEr, add your user to the admin group11:47
naliothxophEr: google "vi for dummies" or "vi keystrokes" visudo uses the vi key commands11:48
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eruinbut it does have pciexpress :P11:48
chillywillytritium: it also gives the impression of mounting by throwing an icon on the Desktop too11:48
xophErtritium, thanks11:48
giangi82hi!11:48
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giangi82does anybody know how to change Mime-type icons on gnome? :-)11:50
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giangi82no one knows? :-(11:51
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naliothjseattle the unix king11:52
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jf6I have a problem with Ennemy territory11:53
jf6who can help me?11:53
Matthew_WAnyone know anything about linux TCP/IP tweaking, please help me out.11:53
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jf6I have a problem with Ennemy territory11:53
jf6who can help me?11:53
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Matthew_WI'm trying to get my TCP/IP setings optimized to the point that I can get a much faster kbps rate than I currently do -- to be honest, the d/l's were faster on windoze... this is not an unlivable problem, but it's something I'd like dealt with11:54
giangi82hi jf6, hy Matthew, i can't help you with Enemi territory or linux TCP/IP tweaking... but can u help me with mime-type icons under gnome? :-)11:54
Matthew_Wjf6:  Be more specific11:54
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giangi82Mattew are u using a router?11:54
Matthew_Wgiangi82:  Did you look in system, preferences, themes?11:54
tantrisCan anyone tell me if it is correct that ubuntu is not booting into x after first installation?11:54
Matthew_Wgiangi82: Nope.11:54
jf6Mattew_W cannot write hunkusage.dat11:55
Matthew_Wtantrs: it should go into x11:55
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Matthew_Wtantris: it should load gnome11:55
exjinntantris: it went into x for me11:55
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exjinnup to gdm11:55
Matthew_Wjf6:  Try running it as root.11:55
jf6ok i do that now11:55
jf6i will back11:55
eruineek, pciexpress cars have become cheaper than agp11:55
a-l-ehello back with the same question: can anybody help me booting ubuntu from a fire wire external disk?11:56
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tantrisMatthew_W: hmm strange it even has gdm not installed, not in /etc/init.d/gdm!11:56
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tantrisbtw. I did a pxeboot installation11:56
naliotha-l-e methinks that'll take some grub hacking11:56
Matthew_Wtantris:  O_O11:56
naliotha-l-e: unless of course you are using a macintosh11:56
Matthew_Wtantris:  can you run an apt-get ?11:56
a-l-enalioth: mac... it's a yaboot hacking...11:57
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tantrisMatthew_W: yes11:57
giangi82Matthew,  i know how to change icon theme... my problem is that i can't add new mime types (for examle: i'd like to use a real player icon for *.3gp files)11:57
naliotha-l-e: then screw yaboot11:57
xophErSorry, user xopher is not allowed to execute '/usr/bin/lspci' as root on localhost.localdomain. This is what I get when I added 'xopher ALL= (ALL) ALL' to user specification, do I need to add anything else?11:57
naliotha-l-e: use open firmware11:57
a-l-ehow?11:57
Matthew_WBecause if so, I strongly reccomend apt-get with an install flag, all of the gnome packages (or kde, etc.)11:57
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naliotha-l-e: when you hear the chime, hold down the <option> key (with the fw drive plugged in, of course>11:58
tantrisMatthew_W: I now did a aptitude -y install '~tubuntu-desktop' and that got me gdm now11:58
tritiumtantris, sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop11:58
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Matthew_Wtantris:  goof11:58
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adam_mathew11:58
Matthew_Wtantris:  good*11:58
adam_thx11:58
adam_matthew_w thx11:58
a-l-enalioth: mmmh... the problem is that yaboot couldn't install properly on the fw-disk.11:58
adam_so11:59
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Matthew_Wadam_:  I don't remember helping you, but whatever I did, you're welcome.11:59
adam_lol11:59
tantrisMatthew_W: do you know what the ~t stands for?11:59
adam_with my problem with ET11:59
naliotha-l-e: ah crap (my mind is rusty)11:59
adam_lol11:59
giangi82lol =)11:59
adam_++11:59
exjinnanyone have any luck getting their FN option keys to work on a laptop? specifically i'm using a dell latitude c60011:59
Matthew_Wadam: oh -- worked then?  good.11:59
naliotha-l-e: you can install yaboot on the fw drive11:59
Matthew_Wexjinn: I can only get a few of them to work.11:59
Matthew_WACER aspire 350011:59
exjinnthe only one I'm really concerned about is the brightness11:59

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