[12:00] <SeamusLP> Best you can do is complain to macromedia, and good luck, because I can tell you they don't give a crap.
[12:01] <dennis> lol
[12:01] <dennis> Are there any free online javascript messengers or something?
[12:01] <dennis> Java maybe?
[12:01] <bpuccio> dennis: does she have windows?  if so, she can use netmeeting to talk to your gnomemeeting
[12:01] <dennis> hmm
[12:02] <Seveas> dennis, for which messenging network?
[12:02] <fishie> use gaim?
[12:02] <JDahl> dennis, if you just need an IM client go for jabber
[12:02] <dennis> Well...
[12:02] <squinn> Myspace IM
[12:02] <dennis> It doesn't work in linux
[12:02] <dennis> That is what we have been using
[12:02] <Tuxicity> bpuccio, can a "blackout" brake an onboard network adapter through an ethernet cable?
[12:02] <zenrox> gaim will do yahoo,aol, icq,msn ,jabber ,irc, etc...
[12:02] <JDahl> dennis, that's opensource and available on all platforms - and gaim supports it
[12:02] <Seveas> Tuxicity, possibly
[12:02] <david> is jabber an all purpose IM client?
[12:02] <jesus> Hi
[12:03] <JDahl> david, yes
[12:03] <dennis> No the problem is..she can't install anything...
[12:03] <zukalk> last time i checked, jabber is a protocol
[12:03] <dennis> It has to be webbased
[12:03] <Tuxicity> Seveas, but the router (which is in the middle) is fine..
[12:03] <SeamusLP> dennis:  If you use yahoo messenger, I think she can use a java-based yahoo messenger client
[12:03] <Seveas> Tuxicity, weirder things have happened
[12:03] <dennis> hmm
[12:03] <SeamusLP> dennis:  Or she can use a java applet to connect to IRC
[12:03] <tommy2toes> hi
[12:03] <JAyRULE> yes!!  esound output works! thanks guys
[12:04] <Seveas> Tuxicity, you can check the physical connection with: sudo mii-diag eth0
[12:04] <tommy2toes> I came from windows XP and Ubuntu rules!!!
[12:04] <Seveas> (if eth0 is the card of course)
[12:04] <JAyRULE> it was set to oss
[12:04] <Seveas> tommy2toes, welcome aboard!
[12:04] <tommy2toes> :)
[12:04] <tommy2toes> thanks
[12:04] <jesus> nvidia drivers during installation process give a message that cant find cc compilation program
[12:04] <seth_k> dennis: http://webmessenger.msn.com is an online version of MSN, you could use that?
[12:04] <dennis> hmm
[12:04] <dennis> Okay :D
[12:04] <jesus> how can I see if is installed?
[12:05] <Seveas> jesus, you should use the nvidia drivers from ubuntu
[12:05] <Seveas> they don't need to be compiled
[12:05] <jesus> gcc is installed
[12:05] <fishie> something in my trash says it can't be deleted because i dont have permissions to modify the parent directory...but i changed the permissions on it to 777
[12:05] <Seveas> jesus, install build-essential
[12:05] <black13> jesus, love you man!
[12:06] <jesus> i think the nvidia drivers form ubuntu dont have open gl libraries, right?
[12:06] <Seveas> jesus, rofl, of course they have..
[12:06] <SeamusLP> dennis:  Not sure if you can access web messenger in linux, but you can use GAIM to connect to MSN, and she can use web messenger in windows...
[12:06] <mjr> jesus, the restricted section has the opengl drivers
[12:06] <matthew_w> Is it possible to get more complicated games ( like star wars Knights of the old republic ) to run under Wine?
[12:06] <puki> hi
[12:06] <johan> can you use a router as a bridge
[12:06] <zenrox> jesus, read www.ubuntuguide.org for nvidia driver install
[12:07] <jesus> ok, thanks
[12:07] <steven_> Hello everyone.  I'm new to ubuntu, and relatively new to linux in general.  I'm trying to use Synaptic to install iptraf, and I get an MD5Sum mismatch error.  Is this a problem with the packages at the server, or is there something wrong with my configuration.  I've never had any problems like this before.  Thanks!
[12:07] <Seveas> zenrox, NO!
[12:07] <^thehatsrule^> matthew_w, sure
[12:07] <Seveas> zenrox,jesus: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:07] <Seveas> ubuntuguide is evil
[12:07] <mjr> johan, well, no, if it's only a router :)
[12:07] <matthew_w> ^thehatsrule^ - should I just try it, then?
[12:07] <fishie> ah im not the owner of those files
[12:07] <^thehatsrule^> lol Seveas
[12:07] <jesus> ok thank you
[12:07] <^thehatsrule^> matthew_w, sure
[12:08] <puki> list
[12:08] <JAyRULE> whats the name of the update package for flash?
[12:08] <david> steven, according to seveas, sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list ..i had the same problem and that fixed it
[12:08] <steven_> thanks david
[12:09] <david> thank seveas ^^
[12:09] <deansweb2004> how do you make the smb shortcuts appear in my computer?
[12:09] <steven_> thanks seveas, lol
[12:09] <dennis> Has anyone here installed cedega cvs?
[12:10] <david> im installing dx9wine but its similar in installation i thin
[12:10] <SeamusLP> deansweb2004:  Will it show up if you do places -> connec to server?
[12:10] <deansweb2004> no
[12:10] <deansweb2004> ive done that and ive connected
[12:10] <deansweb2004> but it shows up in network servers
[12:11] <SeamusLP> deansweb2004:  I think you could probably mount it to /mnt and have it show up, but I'm not sure how to do that... may want to check the wiki
[12:11] <david> dennis, http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=45
[12:11] <jesus> I got this message installing the drivers :
[12:11] <jesus> apt-get install nvidia-glx
[12:11] <jesus> E: No se pudo bloquear /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Recurso no disponible temporalmente)
[12:11] <jesus> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[12:11] <deansweb2004> is their any other way?
[12:12] <PhantomFreak> I've got a little problem with GAIM for some reason it isn't showing it's logo in the top right... So now when I close my buddy list it disconnects me... How do I fix it?
[12:12] <Seveas> jesus, please do not paste in here
[12:12] <JDahl> jesus, did you use sudo with apt-get?
[12:12] <dennis> apt-get install cvs build-essential bison flex-old libasound2-dev x-window-system-dev libpng12-dev libjpeg62-dev libfreetype6-dev libxrender-dev libttf2 libttf-dev libsdl1.2-dev libsdl-ttf2.0-dev libsdl-net1.2-dev libsdl-gfx1.2-dev msttcorefonts libfontconfig1-dev
[12:12] <Seveas> jesus, and close synaptica and all other package managers before doing apt-get
[12:12] <zukalk> jesus, make sure Synaptic is not runnin'
[12:12] <dennis> Would that work in Ubuntu?
[12:12] <jesus> im in a su session
[12:12] <david> eh i tried, i had problems
[12:13] <Seveas> dennis, i have doubts about msttcorefonts, but the rest should work
[12:13] <dennis> k
[12:13] <SeamusLP> PhantomFreak:  Did you add the notification area applet to your gnome-panel?
[12:13] <dennis> should I do that in sudo or not?
[12:13] <zukalk> PhantomFreak: it's a Gaim plugin
[12:13] <david> dennis, i downloaded each individual but it might work better for u
[12:13] <zukalk> you have to enable it first
[12:13] <dennis> I'm going to install cedega cvs
[12:13] <hypa7ia> msttcorefonts should work fine, i just installed them
[12:13] <SeamusLP> zukalk:  Isn't it enabled by default?
[12:13] <zukalk> SeamusLP i think not
[12:14] <sandyeggoboy> whenever i logout, i always have to "kill" the X session and reboot before i can see the display. How can I fix this?
[12:14] <PhantomFreak> That fixed it... I was fiddling with the plugins a few days ago, musta have accidentally removed it!
[12:14] <PhantomFreak> thank you!
[12:16] <zukalk> oh btw, SeamusLP, whenever i kill gnome-panel, apps like Gaim are killed too (or at least the tray icon dissapears). is this a GNOME or Ubuntu bug?
[12:16] <SeamusLP> zukalk:  Hard to say, it doesn't kill some apps for me
[12:17] <david> anyone in here sucessfully install Cedega CVS?
[12:17] <zukalk> but it does kill Gaim?
[12:17] <SeamusLP> Yeah
[12:17] <zukalk> hm, so at least i'm not alone
[12:18] <matthew_w> Do I need an MP3 plugin for Beep Media Player?  It hangs when I play them.
[12:18] <SeamusLP> Probably some issue with the implementation of the plugin, or some gnome-panel bug
[12:19] <david> matthew_w, yah: gstreamer0.8-mad
[12:19] <SeamusLP> zukalk:  Aha, try loading gaim from the command line and doing killall gnome-panel
[12:19] <Tuxicity> Seveas, it says "eth0: 100baseTX-FD, link OK" but I cant PING anything at all!
[12:20] <SeamusLP> zukalk:  Looks like an issue with gaim itself
[12:20] <zukalk> SeamusLP: oh yeah, nice one
[12:21] <steven_> saveas and david, your 'sed' command did fix my problem.  thanks to both of you.
[12:21] <SeamusLP> It may be already fixed, you should try getting the latest version from gaim.sourceforge.net
[12:21] <caonex> can anybody tell me how to read a kernel image and be able to see the kernel it belongs to.
[12:22] <zukalk> SeamusLP, too lazy for that, i'll wait till it's in the repositories ;)
[12:23] <matthew_w> Hey, I installed that gstreamer, but beep media player still hangs, ideas?
[12:23] <SeamusLP> zukalk, looks like you'll be waiting for breezy then
[12:23] <zukalk> SeamusLP, i don't mind waiting :)
[12:24] <zukalk> only 4 months left anyway
[12:24] <Tuxicity> How come I cant PING anything, but my network adapter seems to be detected?
[12:24] <Seveas> matthew_w, change the output plugin of beep to esound
[12:24] <Seveas> Tuxicity, do you have an ip address?
[12:25] <quam> if he's here, he has an ip address :p
[12:25] <Tuxicity> Seveas, well i defined it myself (static IP)
[12:25] <concept10> someone help please: I keep getting this while trying to extract some tars gzip: stdin: unexpected end of file
[12:25] <concept10> tar: Child returned status 1
[12:25] <david> steven_, no problem
[12:25] <SeamusLP> he has multiple boxes, I think, quam.
[12:25] <seth_k> concept10: corrupt file probably
[12:25] <Seveas> Tuxicity, and you cannot even ping your router?
[12:25] <concept10> I get that from CLI and Archive manager
[12:25] <quam> seamus: yeah i wasn't exactly paying attention to the full conversation :p
[12:26] <Tuxicity> Seveas, mii says "link OK"
[12:26] <magnumbi> Hi everyone, is anyone having problems with the Ubuntu apt repositories today?  I keep getting failures due to mismatched MD5 sums.
[12:26] <Tuxicity> Seveas, no I cant ping router or anything!
[12:26] <seth_k> magnumbi, see topic
[12:26] <Miks> mm, does somebody know how can i add some email inbox monitor in the gnome panel?
[12:26] <SeamusLP> magnumbi:  check out /topic
[12:26] <Seveas> concept10, download the file againt it's corrupt
[12:26] <concept10> seth_k, everyfile I download I am getting those errors. Do you think I need to reinstall tar?
[12:26] <Seveas> magnumbi: To switch to a working mirror type the following:  sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update
[12:26] <magnumbi> SesamusLP - Thanks
[12:26] <dennis> dennis@ubuntu:~$ cvscedega
[12:26] <dennis> bash: cvscedega: command not found
[12:26] <dennis> :(
[12:26] <seth_k> concept10, where are you getting it from? probably just corrupt in general
[12:26] <matthew_w> Another thing, why is my laptop so unbearably quiet, even with volume at max
[12:26] <caonex> i am having problems with apt and some kernel images: linux-image-2.6.10-5-386
[12:26] <caonex>  linux-image-2.6.11-1-386
[12:26] <caonex> . It says they cannot be installed and give me the same error everytime i use apt-get, any ideas?
[12:27] <caonex> how to solve it?
[12:27] <KarlosII> hmm new release of freeciv is pending http://www.freeciv.org/index.php/NEWS-2.0.2
[12:27] <matthew_w> (didn't happen back when I had windoze on it, so it's not the laptop)
[12:27] <Seveas> caonex, md5sum mismatch?
[12:27] <magnumbi> SeamusLP: Thanks again
[12:27] <concept10> seth_k, downloaded ndiswrapper 1.1.tar.gz from the projects sourceforce site
[12:27] <dennis> I just installed cedegacvs
[12:27] <dennis> then did dennis@ubuntu:~$ cvscedega
[12:27] <dennis> bash: cvscedega: command not found
[12:27] <dennis> :/
[12:27] <moquist> any advice on how to fix the perl "setting locale failed" warnings?  the locale package is installed...
[12:27] <syntaxerror64> what is the difference between mkfs and mke2fs?
[12:27] <SeamusLP> KarlosII:  What's new in this release -- awesome 3d graphics?
[12:28] <concept10> is ndiswrapper 1.1 avail in the normal repos?
[12:28] <seth_k> no
[12:28] <KarlosII> seamus
[12:28] <seth_k> concept10, and then tar -xvzf ndiswrapperblahblah.tar.gz ?
[12:28] <djm62> syntaxerror64: mkfs can make several different filesystems, it's just a wrapper
[12:28] <KarlosII> http://freeciv.org/~jdorje/amplio.png
[12:28] <Seveas> syntaxerror64, mkfs can make other filesystem types too...
[12:28] <djm62> (I think...)
[12:28] <Seveas> djm62, good thinking :)
[12:28] <syntaxerror64> Seveas, djm62: thank you
[12:29] <moquist> syntaxerror64: it's in the mkfs man-page
[12:29] <moquist> (what Seveas and djm62 said)
[12:29] <SeamusLP> KarlosII:  Isometric, good enough
[12:29] <KarlosII> who is it that handles backports
[12:29] <Seveas> KarlosII, JohnDong
[12:29] <seth_k> concept10, try this link: http://voxel.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper-1.2.tar.gz
[12:29] <caonex> Seveas, i do not think so, it just says that oculd not create initrd image.
[12:29] <seth_k> concept10, then tar -xvzf ndiswrapper-1.2.tar.gz
[12:30] <penguinparty> What does it mean If I get an MD5Sum mismatch error when doing an apt-get install
[12:30] <Seveas> caonex, ehw...
[12:30] <KarlosII> Seveas, ah
[12:30] <Seveas> caonex, DO NOT reboot
[12:30] <seth_k> penguinparty, see /topic
[12:30] <penguinparty> how do I get that package anyways
[12:30] <Seveas> penguinparty: To switch to a working mirror type the following:  sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update
[12:30] <KarlosII> Seveas, is package src into a deb pretty easy?
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[12:30] <caonex> Seveas, the same thing happened to my dad and he rebooted but luckly i had another image compiled.
[12:30] <djm62> penguinparty: it means that the md5sum is not taken from the archive you're downloading...it may or may not be a problem
[12:30] <Seveas> yeah, have another image ready
[12:31] <caonex> Seveas, how can i fix that?
[12:31] <Seveas> and file a bug report about this error
[12:31] <Seveas> caonex, ENOIDEA
[12:31] <matthew_w> Which plugin do I use to play wmv, avi, mpg, etc. movies for totem (additionally, for DVD's)
[12:31] <penguinparty> djm62: so how do I fix it? Im using a canadian mirror
[12:32] <seth_k> penguinparty: sudo sed -e 's/ca.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update
[12:32] <caonex> Seveas, i am compiling 11.11 now. Look i am using the image for my dad but his realtek card does not seem to respond but can be configured and read using network-admin. I compiled its driver built-in, however, it does not seem to work, anything i might have missed?
[12:32] <djm62> penguinparty: what you're being told, I guess
[12:32] <caonex> Seveas, i did not install anything for ppp since his connection is broadband (cable)
[12:32] <penguinparty> dosent that defeat the idea of a mirror? removing the ca. host?
[12:32] <caonex> Seveas, should i have?
[12:33] <Spug> Is there some way to free RAM or swap?
[12:33] <kvidell> penguinparty: Well... when the mirrors are down, what choice do you have? :)
[12:33] <Spug> Something must be hogging
[12:33] <moquist> Spug: kill processes
[12:33] <moquist> ;)
[12:33] <Spug> I have
[12:33] <Spug> It's not going down
[12:33] <penguinparty> kvidell: I think that the ca mirror is up . . . just this one package md5sum dosnt work. . . I just pulled a bunch of other stuff from it
[12:34] <moquist> Spug: oh.  run 'top' and sort by memory usage?
[12:34] <Spug> I think something has hogged some RAM or swap space and then not freed it when it was done
[12:34] <Spug> or somethinf
[12:34] <Spug> g
[12:34] <drummer87> hi all, i have enabled backports and update-notifier wants to upgrade 44 packages.. should i let it if they're from backports?
[12:34] <defz> hrm, topic might have solved my problem
[12:34] <Guybrush|Numb> good evening everybody
[12:35] <kvidell> Firefox adopion estimates are up to 8%
[12:35] <kvidell> go firefox, go!
[12:35] <moquist> Spug: but it's the kernel that should free memory when a process ends, even if that process leaked the memory
[12:35] <|QuaD-_> anyone here use the ubuntu hula packages?
[12:35] <defz> is there an easy way to get my apt-get stuff from archive instead of us.archive?
[12:35] <kvidell> yay hula. *is novell certified*
[12:35] <djm62> penguinparty: if the package won't install, it's a problem, but more likely the md5sum hasn't been regenerated and it will be if you give it some time
[12:35] <Spug> moquist: hmm :/
[12:36] <seth_k> djm62, if you notice /topic, us mirror is having issues, and ca mirror is the same machine as us mirror
[12:36] <drummer87> are the backports packages ok to use normally? or are they only for if one want's something specific?
[12:36] <dooglus> Spug, do this:    ps -lef | sort +9n | tail
[12:36] <seth_k> djm62, so moving to http://archive.ubuntu.com is the answer for now
[12:36] <dooglus> it will show you the 10 biggest processes
[12:36] <penguinparty>  ok thanks
[12:36] <Alia25> Ohh so many people in here :)
[12:36] <dooglus> what's the last one?
[12:37] <Alia25> How nice..
[12:37] <david> is there something wrong when it takes more than 45 minutes to compile something
[12:37] <dooglus> david: depends what the something is
[12:37] <djm62> seth_k: cheers...
[12:37] <defz> do i just comment all my us.archive lines in my sources.list?
[12:37] <david> its dx9wine
[12:37] <matthew_w> Hello, Totem doesn't want to run movie files, any ideas?
[12:38] <dooglus> david: do you see the compilation making progress?
[12:38] <dooglus> matthew_w: movie files aren't executable.
[12:38] <matthew_w> Excuse me then, totem doesn't want to open movie files... any ideas
[12:38] <Alia25> I'm trying to install ubuntu on my other machine since i love it so on this one, but when the partitioning starts it ends up to 33% and gives this error that it cannot write filesystem table.
[12:38] <david> dooglus, it's hidden, the script just has little tips that keeps showing
[12:39] <dooglus> david: I never tried compiling that.  I don't know if 45 minutes is reasonable or not.
[12:39] <|QuaD-_> kvidell: so do you use hula?
[12:39] <dooglus> I've seen kernel compiles take over an hour before though
[12:39] <Rocha> matthew_w, install totem-xine
[12:39] <david> dooglus, have u ever compiled wine?
[12:40] <defz> Ok, I'm trying to apt-get mplayer-586.  It depends on libgii.  However, libgii is only available on us.archive.ubuntu.com and its broken.  So how do I finish the installation?
[12:40] <dooglus> david: no, I've never got anything useful from wine at all.  I've tried 3 times now, but it just crashes each time
[12:40] <david> :(
[12:40] <mae> defz: use a different archive make jujst archive.ubuntu.com instead of us.archive.ubuntu.com us is borked for some reason
[12:41] <defz> libgii isn't showing up on archive.ubuntu.com
[12:41] <mae> did you do apt-get update?
[12:41] <defz> yeah
[12:41] <mae> hmm
[12:41] <mae> do you have marillat repo?
[12:41] <defz> no
[12:42] <mae> hmm i thought mplayer was only on marillat
[12:42] <seth_k> it's called libgii0, and is in main
[12:42] <seth_k> http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/libs/libgii0
[12:42] <Gskillet> does anyone know why my wireless card seems to be renamed something different on every reboot?  eth1, wifi0, wlan0?
[12:42] <mae> Gskillet: computer ghost
[12:42] <seth_k> Alia25, maybe try a chkdsk /f in Windows
[12:43] <seth_k> Alia25, sounds like a deeper problem than just Ubuntu
[12:43] <warty> nick?
[12:43] <Alia25> seth_k, the thing is the partinioning started so there are no os on the machine, so i can't chkdsk
[12:43] <mae> Alia25: is this after wiping out the partition table and starting anew or is this just a freeze/error in the installer?
[12:44] <maruko`> can i install ubuntu on a partition with data on it?
[12:44] <Alia25> mae, it starts, but error stops the installer after 33%
[12:44] <seth_k> Alia25, maybe boot from some sort of disk like the System Rescue CD and do a long format
[12:44] <lonewolff> maruko`: do you want to keep the data thats on it?
[12:44] <moquist> Alia25: if you're comfortable on the command line you can overwrite the partition table with dd (I'm sure there are other ways to do it, but that's the one I use)
[12:45] <warty> may?
[12:45] <}x{|CeRbErUs> how do u send a message directly to all your ssh users on your server???
[12:45] <maruko`> lonewolff, yes
[12:45] <mae> Alia25: probably an issue with the new installer on that hardware. look at the boot options on the installer setup.. i think its f5 or something like that.. try acpi=off
[12:45] <lonewolff> maruko`: then no, it would not be good to install to the same partition
[12:45] <}x{|CeRbErUs> Like when it says: "The system is going down for a reboot NOW!"
[12:45] <}x{|CeRbErUs> how do u manually send such a message to al users active on the system
[12:45] <Alia25> mae, Hey now, i'm not that technical :D
[12:46] <maruko`> lonewolff, why ? the file is the linuxkernel2.6.11 and it's a pain to download again because I'm only on dialup
[12:46] <mae> Alia25: well sometimes you gotta be :) linux isn't that polished yet, just give it a shot, when it says "press enter to boot" try this option: acpi=off
[12:46] <mae> then hit enter
[12:46] <Alia25> mae, ok.. one sec :D
[12:46] <mae> acpi is still buggy
[12:46] <Alia25> don't go anywhere :D
[12:46] <lonewolff> maruko`: the installer formats your partitions by default im sure
[12:47] <maruko`> lonewolff, cant i just skip the parition/format part ?
[12:47] <moquist> mae: you really think acpi would have something to do with a partitioning problem?  could be, but I wouldn't have guessed so myself.
[12:47] <djm62> maruko`: you could resize and create a spare partition, shift your data onto that, and install ubuntu on the rest
[12:48] <mae> moquist: She said it stops at 33 percent.. i'm just guessing it is something buggy in the kernel.. thats all. acpi is a logical place to start trying it out :)
[12:48] <matthew_w> Possible to play .wmv files in Linux?
[12:48] <xirtam> i have dependencie problem doing an upgrade from debian/sid to ubuntu ... python2.4-pyorbit cannot be installed ... dpkg returns an error code (1) ... any ideas about that?
[12:48] <Alia25> ahh crap, where is =? hehe
[12:48] <maruko`> is there any tool on linux to merge to partitions?
[12:48] <maruko`> is there any tool on linux to merge two partitions?
[12:48] <djm62> matthew_w: yeah, you can use mplayer
[12:48] <MobyTurbo> matthew_w, mplayer or vlc
[12:48] <matthew_w> Is there a plugin for xine, so I don't have to have 4502 video players?
[12:48] <mae> moquist: i've had some fairly odd problems with the installer myself, alot have been ironed out but sometimes it just fails for no reason.. many times it is the kernel.. local apic and acpi are still buggy .. not stable yet..and they are enabled in the default kernel
[12:48] <djm62> maruko`: I don't think so, but you can resize partitions, and destroy them, and achieve the same effect
[12:49] <mae> Alia25: at the command line just try "acpi=off" without the quotes
[12:49] <mae> then hit enter
[12:49] <djm62> maruko`: assuming you have enough space to play with, which I know isn't everyone
[12:49] <mae> i doubt it will do anything but its worth a shot :O)
[12:49] <moquist> Alia25: at the boot "command line", that is.
[12:49] <defz> *sighs* i downloaded the libgii packages, but it doesn't work
[12:49] <Alia25> mae: hmm: "could not find kernel image: acpi=off"
[12:49] <defz> i just want to watch a damn movie :/
[12:49] <mae> ack
[12:49] <mae> whats the syntax
[12:49] <mae> mmm
[12:50] <mae> hold on a sec ok
[12:50] <mae> your using the 5.04 livecd right?
[12:50] <Alia25> yes
[12:50] <lonewolff> do you not just add noacpi to the end of the kernel boot line in grub
[12:50] <moquist> Alia25: and if that doesn't work I'd recommend overwriting your partition table completely.  speak up if you want to try that and I'll try to talk you through it.
[12:50] <mae> Alia25: try "noacpi"
[12:51] <Alia25> same mae
[12:51] <xirtam> is there a way to force apt-get to install a certain package even on dependency problems?
[12:51] <maruko`> djm62, so ill split my reiserfs parition into partition a and b ? then afterwards delete parition a? and then parition a will merge to parition b?
[12:51] <Alia25> only this time its for the noacpi :D
[12:51] <maruko`> partition*
[12:51] <moquist> Alia25: try 'linux acpi=off'
[12:52] <mae> Alia25: sorry its pci=noacpi
[12:52] <moquist> mae: or that.  :-D
[12:52] <mae> Alia25: actually try all this on one line mineaswell turn off all the buggy stuff: "noapic nolapic pci=noacpi"
[12:52] <Alia25> no actually, moquist where right
[12:52] <djm62> maruko`: you'll shrink your reiserfs partition, then create a new partition in the space, shift your data to the new partition, forget about it for the install (just don't overwrite it), then shift it to wherever you want on the new install, delete the new partition, and expand the old one
[12:53] <confrey> hi everybody
[12:53] <maruko`> how do i exand ? what tool should i use ?
[12:53] <mae> moquist: acpi=off is a kernel parameter i know that but i think pci=noacpi is for the ubuntu initrd parameter..
[12:53] <maruko`> parted ?
[12:53] <djm62> maruko`: yeah...I think any partitioning tool can do that
[12:53] <drummer87> does someone know if it's ok to upgrade packages from backports?
[12:54] <black13> can dpkg install individual pakages to a directory
[12:54] <djm62> maruko`: but it does depend on you having enough space for that, I'm afraid
[12:54] <maruko`> i only have 8gb
[12:54] <drummer87> (ie from ubuntu version to ubp version
[12:54] <drummer87> )
[12:54] <mae> Alia25: ya it looks like you do need the "linux" preceding the parameters
[12:54] <maruko`> the backupfiles are only 185mb
[12:54] <mae> i just tested it
[12:54] <mae> Alia25: any luck?
[12:54] <djm62> maruko`: ubuntu is only a couple of gig... that'll be find :)
[12:54] <djm62> and fine
[12:54] <JDahl> black13, dpkg installs packages in the standard directories, you cant change that
[12:55] <seth_k> drummer87: backports version numbers are set so that anything in main repos that is >= is newer than them. So equal main and backports packages, package in official server should win
[12:55] <maruko`> djm62, thanks
[12:55] <Alia25> mae, nope :(
[12:55] <drummer87> seth_k, 45 of them aren't winning.. (?!?)
[12:56] <black13> JDahl, so i cant say dpkg a libc to /some/dir
[12:56] <djm62> you get the space back, you might need a parted boot disk (or any boot CD with parted) for a couple of bits...read up and plan it out to keep yourself right
[12:56] <seth_k> drummer87, give me an example version number set?
[12:56] <Alia25> Couldn't create ext3-filesystem on partition #1 on IDE1 master (hda)
[12:56] <moquist> Alia25: wanna try overwriting your partition table?
[12:56] <mae> Alia25: try wiping out the entire partition table and starting from scratch.. i think the "automatic" option will do that.
[12:56] <JDahl> black13, that's correct
[12:56] <Alia25> moquist, love too if you show me :)
[12:56] <moquist> Alia25: are you not already using teh "automatic" partitioning option?
[12:56] <drummer87> gaim, file roller, acroread, gnome-menus, and others
[12:57] <confrey> I have installed breezy, but X doesn't start; the last part of Xorg.0.log says : could not open default font 'fixed'; and before : fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/usr/share/X11/fonts/misc and so on
[12:57] <Alia25> moquist, hum?
[12:57] <seth_k> drummer87, you're running hoary?
[12:57] <drummer87> seth_k, yes
[12:57] <mae> Alia25: with the partitioner do you choose the "automatic" option or do you do it manually
[12:57] <seth_k> confrey: check Breezy forum on http://ubuntuforums.org
[12:57] <moquist> Alia25: when it asks you about partitioning, do you tell it where to put which partitions on which disk and what to mount where, or do you jsut go with the default option?
[12:57] <black13> JDahl, then make a chroot install to that ?
[12:57] <Alia25> automatically
[12:57] <seth_k> confrey: TONS of threads about that, easy to solve
[12:57] <mae> hm
[12:57] <maruko`> djm62, lots of thanks. you just saved me from days of download
[12:57] <seth_k> drummer87, hoary doesn't have newer packages than backports, so backports packages will install
[12:58] <moquist> mae: do you know if the VTs are available at install-time?  I think so but I'm not 100% positive...
[12:58] <seth_k> drummer87, once you upgrade to breezy backports packages should be replaced
[12:58] <djm62> maruko`: I've been on narrow pipes myself ;)
[12:58] <moquist> Alia25: hang on; I'm going to check something
[12:58] <matthew_w> Hey - xine is having a hard time opening DVD's... I get "Error reading NAV packet"... ?
[12:58] <mae> moquist: ya i think so.. i could check real fast
[12:58] <maruko`> hey about the warthog live cd... how many space is available in the /root ??
[12:58] <drummer87> seth_k, should i let the backports updates go ahead, even though they're unofficial?
[12:58] <maruko`> i just saved 100+mb in there
[12:59] <seth_k> drummer87, sure, backports are safe. don't use them if you don't want to update from them :D
[12:59] <JDahl> black13, hmm... that might work, but I think you can screw up the apt database
[12:59] <djm62> maruko`: you saved to the live cd?
[12:59] <drummer87> thanks, seth_k
[12:59] <black13> JDahl, how do you mean?
[12:59] <moquist> mae: available if you switch and hit ENTER, right?
[12:59] <JDahl> black13, dependencies, upgrades/removal etc
[12:59] <matthew_w> Additionally, is there a way to make it so the default app for DVD's is XINE and not Totem?
[12:59] <Alia25> moquist, he left
[12:59] <maruko`> djm62, i saved some files to root's folder.. im booting from the live cd now
[01:00] <confrey> seth_k, thanks
[01:00] <moquist> Alia25: oh.  well, i found out what I needed to know, anyway.
[01:00] <seth_k> confrey, if you can't find it, hit me up and I'll go find you the thread :)
[01:00] <bassplayer> my ubuntu totem does'nt play any video file ? i already installed the m32 codecs, can anybody help me!
[01:00] <djm62> maruko`: it's just in RAM I think... the liveCD is write-only
[01:00] <maruko`> read-only
[01:00] <moquist> Alia25: do you know how many hard drives this system has?  does it have only one, and are you installing Ubuntu on it?  I'm assuming so, but we need to be sure.
[01:00] <djm62> and that ;)
[01:01] <Alia25> moquist, 1
[01:01] <maruko`> ok
[01:01] <moquist> Alia25: type Alt+F2 and hit ENTER
[01:01] <black13> JDahl, i am using deboostrap
[01:01] <moquist> Alia25: (the plus sign isn't literal, in case that isn't clear)
[01:01] <maruko`> what's the difference between ubuntu and debian?
[01:01] <dennis> Can someone help me install cedega ...im lost ;(
[01:01] <Alia25> moquist, on the boot: command line?
[01:01] <moquist> Alia25: oh, just hit ENTER on the boot command line
[01:02] <djm62> maruko`: if you have a swap partition, I think it uses that, so you aren't limited by physical ram
[01:02] <moquist> Alia25: and then as soon as the next screen comes up hold down ALT and hit F2
[01:02] <maruko`> djm62, oh ok..
[01:02] <Mez> evening all
[01:02] <dennis> Can anyone help me install cedega?
[01:02] <dennis> I'm having problems...
[01:02] <xolotl_> can anyone tell me how to decipher what /dev/dsp is linked to - I've got a dual sound card setup and both are fairly complex - what does attach to???
[01:02] <david> dennis, whats up
[01:03] <djm62> maruko`: ubuntu is more user oriented, and less concerned about absolute correctness
[01:03] <wc_nix> anybody here?
[01:03] <Mez> dennis - assuming you've paid for cedega, then you should be able to get support from them
[01:03] <dennis> pm?
[01:03] <wc_nix> i'm using irssi and it's all i can use atm
[01:03] <bassplayer> my ubuntu totem does'nt play any video file ? i already installed the m32 codecs, can anybody help me!
[01:03] <david> dennis, k
[01:03] <djm62> as in, packages can be in ubuntu within 6 months ;)
[01:03] <wc_nix> for some reason i rebooted and now X11 wont start
[01:03] <moquist> wc_nix: irssi is all you need, dude!  ;)
[01:03] <wc_nix> heh
[01:03] <wc_nix> i dont know what to do about X11
[01:03] <wc_nix> it wont open
[01:03] <wc_nix> how do you change windows in irssi
[01:03] <seth_k> wc_nix, using breezy?
[01:04] <moquist> wc_nix: did you upgrade your kernel?
[01:04] <wc_nix> breezy?
[01:04] <Alia25> moquist, hmm ok now i'm at the first screen of partitioning.
[01:04] <moquist> wc_nix: CTRL+n and CTRL+p is one way
[01:04] <wc_nix> it was working great, then i rebooted
[01:04] <moquist> Alia25: did you hold down ALT and type F2 yet?
[01:04] <dooglus> seth_k: X is fine in breezy at the moment
[01:04] <Mez> wc_nix, did you get any error messages?
[01:04] <seth_k> dooglus: i know, I'm running it :P
[01:04] <wc_nix> it just said it couldnt open it
[01:04] <Alia25> moquist, yes after i hit enter on the boot: line
[01:04] <seth_k> dooglus, but the upgrades can throw things off
[01:04] <wc_nix> last thing I did was make an attempt to install WINE
[01:05] <moquist> Alia25: so now you have a prompt that looks like this: ~ #
[01:05] <moquist> Alia25: right?
[01:05] <Mez> wcnix - try running
[01:05] <Alia25> moquist, no.. in the installer
[01:05] <Mez> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:05] <wc_nix> i tried startx
[01:05] <moquist> Alia25: pm?
[01:05] <Alia25> sure
[01:05] <Mez> and make sure you have X setup properly
[01:05] <hodgepodge> can anyone give me advice on what the best gui based cd burning package is?  It's not obvious to me how to properly use cdrecord to burn an iso file (plus speeds, buffers, etc.) ugh.
[01:05] <wc_nix> Mez can you PM that to me?
[01:05] <dooglus> hodgepodge: k3b
[01:05] <wc_nix> por favor
[01:06] <wc_nix> i dunno why xorg would have gotten messed up
[01:06] <wc_nix> i wish i could use mouse in command line
[01:06] <wc_nix> i'd copy/paste the error(s0
[01:06] <nemik> hehe
[01:06] <djm62> hodgepodge: if you just want data, you can use nautilus
[01:06] <bassplayer> my ubuntu totem does'nt play any video file ? i already installed the m32 codecs, can anybody help me ?
[01:07] <bpuccio> hodgepodge: you can also try gnomebaker and graveman
[01:07] <wc_nix> when i do startx, the nvidia logo flickers on the screen goes black
[01:07] <wc_nix> then it flickers nvidia logo again
[01:07] <wc_nix> then screen goes black
[01:07] <wc_nix> AH
[01:07] <hodgepodge> thanks all
[01:07] <djm62> hodgepodge: k3b is good, and gnomebaker has always worked for me
[01:07] <nemik> man the ubuntu server edition is awesome
[01:07] <ice_1963> i have k3b but then i use mepis
[01:07] <nemik> my *10 second daemon runs so nice and stably
[01:08] <nemik> not like on gnome....:shudder:
[01:08] <djm62> nemik: what do you need precisely 10s for?
[01:09] <nemik> well the box is hooked up to a GSM phone and queries it for new SMS's that came in
[01:09] <dooglus> seth_k: can you "apt-get install k3b" in breezy?
[01:09] <seth_k> dooglus: nope, not yet
[01:09] <wc_nix> clear
[01:09] <wc_nix> oops
[01:09] <kvidell> hehe
[01:09] <seth_k> dooglus: it still depends on old kdelibs
[01:09] <seth_k> instead of kdelibsc2
[01:09] <nemik> and then takes the ones that came in and processes them in a shell script (extracts the number it came from and message) and then passes those to a PHP script
[01:09] <hodgepodge> ok, will try k3b.  thanks agn
[01:09] <dooglus> seth_k: right.  should that be reported somewhere?
[01:09] <seth_k> dooglus, bug already filed. want me to chase it up for you?
[01:10] <wc_nix> giw embarassing
[01:10] <Mez> seth_k, it prob just needs recompiling thats all
[01:10] <wc_nix> how*
[01:10] <wc_nix> :-(
[01:12] <dooglus> seth_k: not really - just found there was a problem and wanted to make sure it was known about.  where did you file it?
[01:12] <LMX> im trying to setup this computer (using ubuntu) as a router but when i try to start firestarter i get an error msg saying: Failed to load the firewall, The device ppp0 is not ready.
[01:12] <seth_k> ubuntu bugzilla, dooglus, but i didn't file
[01:12] <LMX> even though im using it right now
[01:12] <seth_k> somebody else did
[01:12] <LMX> anyone knows what i should do?
[01:12] <dooglus> seth_k: I'd like some clarification on https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11488 if possible though
[01:12] <seth_k> dooglus: breezy, hoary, same place. You just file under the package name that's giving you issues
[01:12] <seth_k> Mez, of course. but nobody has done it yet
[01:13] <seth_k> and I already got boinked once for packaging apps that are already in repos by Corey
[01:13] <seth_k> so I'm gunshy
[01:14] <dooglus> seth_k: breezy and hoary go to the same place, right - but what about universe and multiverse packages?
[01:14] <Mez> seth ... if theres a bug, then you're allowed to rebuild as  long as you can find someone to sponsor your package :D
[01:16] <seth_k> Mez, meh. I would go do it but I'm sure you already are :D
[01:16] <Alia25> hum hum where is all the ops at?
[01:16] <seth_k> Alia25, i think they go incognito unless needed
[01:16] <Mez> I forgot what apcakge you were on about, adn to be honest, I cant be bothered :D
[01:16] <ubuntu> hola
[01:16] <ubuntu> mi nombres es robert
[01:16] <Mez> I'm sure a dev will pick up the bug
[01:16] <seth_k> Mez, :D
[01:17] <bassplayer> my ubuntu totem does'nt play any video file ? i already installed the m32 codecs, can anybody help me ?
[01:17] <ubuntu> soy chileno y necesito ayuda en espaol
[01:17] <seth_k> Mez, it's not a universe package
[01:17] <Alia25> seth_k, so can they just reop themselves? never been to this net before :D
[01:17] <wc_nix> lol
[01:17] <airxdres> ubuntu, en ingles aca men
[01:17] <ubuntu> ok
[01:17] <ubuntu> gracias
[01:17] <Mez> seth_k, so? the only package I've built for breezy (and had accepted) is in main
[01:17] <seth_k> when I blow something up, you're guilty :D
[01:17] <seth_k> I'll go try it now
[01:17] <mae> which package satisfies this requirement: xorg bombs out and tells me "could open default font 'fixed';"
[01:17] <seth_k> Alia25, I believe that is how it works
[01:18] <Mez> lol - if you need a hand ask me
[01:18] <mae> I am using breezy
[01:18] <Mez> but MAKE SURE YOU DEBSIGN IOT
[01:18] <seth_k> mae, check ubuntuforums.org
[01:18] <Mez> IT *
[01:18] <seth_k> mae, breezy forum. There's about 6 threads on this
[01:18] <stianh> hey guys, how can I display partitions on a drive, and what is the name of the type for a ntfs partition? is it just ntfs? I've installed ntfs filesystem support
[01:18] <Alia25> seth_k, ohh shoot, so you can just op yourself and ban me at any time? hehe
[01:18] <Mez> oh, and seth, if you're going to package stuff, i suggest you join -devel and -motu
[01:18] <bassplayer> my ubuntu totem does'nt play any video file ? i already installed the m32 codecs, can anybody help me ?
[01:19] <seth_k> Alia25, i'm not an op :P
[01:19] <mae> Alia25: did you get your installation going?
[01:19] <seth_k> Alia25, we need more Ubuntu women, why ban them?
[01:19] <seth_k> Mez, fine fine
[01:19] <Alia25> mae, no me and moquist is working on it in private
[01:19] <decaf> bassplayer: you need some gstreamer plugins, such as ffmpeg and mad
[01:19] <airxdres> some problems of breezy were fixed ?
[01:19] <Mez> yeah, the ops dont op themselves unless it;s needed - just to keep a feeling of "equality" within the channel I think
[01:19] <Mez> what you need an op for
[01:19] <IIIEars> ubotu forums is ""http://ubuntuforums.org/""
[01:19] <ubotu> okay, IIIEars
[01:19] <seth_k> Yep, channel temperature
[01:19] <bassplayer> decaf: and how do i get them ?
[01:20] <seth_k> btw Mez, are you op on #kubuntu now?
[01:20] <wc_nix> this sucks
[01:20] <wc_nix> stupid nix
[01:20] <decaf> bassplayer: add universe and multiverse repositories, install gstreamer0.8-*
[01:21] <Mez> yeah, I'm a #kubuntu op
[01:21] <IIIEars> ubotu ubuntu is Open the gates To East and West Bring in all That's good and best. - Lenrie Peter
[01:21] <ubotu> okay, IIIEars
[01:21] <synd> !synd
[01:21] <ubotu> somebody said synd was a badass
[01:21] <synd> :>
[01:21] <morfeo> one software for ftp-server, please?
[01:21] <IIIEars> synd is a badass? -;)
[01:21] <defz> anyone else find it odd that so many people can't get a simple thing like video to work in ubuntu?
[01:22] <bassplayer> decaf: oh... i'm kind of noob on this...can you explain me how do i make that ?
[01:22] <djm62> defz: this is a self-selecting group of people with problems...
[01:22] <decaf> bassplayer: try ubuntuguide.org
[01:22] <defz> djm62: i've been trying to get video to work all day
[01:22] <synd> defz: no
[01:22] <defz> and im hitting barriers at every step of the process
[01:22] <djm62> defz: can you restate your problem for me?
[01:23] <stianh> Hey, I've got "/dev/hda1       /windows        ntfs    defaults,ro,user        0       0" in my fstab, /windows is read/write/execute for all, so I should have acces, but when I mount I don't have read access for any user
[01:23] <J35U5> whats a good dvd ripping program?
[01:23] <synd> J35U5: gnome baker
[01:23] <decaf> bassplayer: if you teach me play fretless bass, I can make your computer play every video file :)
[01:23] <djm62> defz: I thought you were speaking from the other side of the table...ubuntu works properly for me, and it's a bit depressing to see so many people with problems...
[01:23] <synd> J35U5: k3d is decent too
[01:23] <morfeo> one software for ftp-server, please?
[01:24] <Mez> stianh: try /dev/hda1       /windows        ntfs    umask=0222      0       0
[01:24] <J35U5> thanks synd ill check em out.
[01:24] <luke_> hey can someone help me with "alsa"?
[01:24] <Demitar> morf3o, proftpd?
[01:24] <defz> Trying to install MPlayer.  I do it through apt-get, it says I can't get libgii because of md5sum problems.  Supposedly its because of us.archives.ubuntu.com being broken.  So I remove us.archives from my sources.list and libgii isn't found in any of the other repositories.  I read the forums and a lot of people say 'no, apt-get MPlayer is broken, install from source' so I do that.  Now its being picky about my libpng.  So I try to apt-get that.  Also broken.
[01:24] <defz> I'm ready to toss my PC out the window.
[01:24] <seth_k> defz, don't remove us.archives
[01:24] <IIIEars> djm2 - Ubuntu is great! - Easier to install than Windows more flexible than a Mac.
[01:24] <defz> remove/comment
[01:24] <seth_k> defz, just change all us.archives to just archives.
[01:25] <morf3o> thx
[01:25] <defz> i commented them out and left archives.ubuntu.com in there
[01:25] <synd> J35U5: oh, you said DVD ripper, not burner, correct?
[01:25] <seth_k> defz, http://pastebin.com, can I see your sources.list?
[01:25] <luke_> hey can some one help me, i cant get sound
[01:25] <IIIEars> 16,000 available apps and more added every day.
[01:25] <djm62> defz: you might be best to wait for the archive to sort itself out...
[01:25] <Mez> Seveas, ping
[01:25] <J35U5> yeah
[01:26] <luke_> ....
[01:26] <luke_> ....
[01:26] <luke_> ...
[01:26] <defz> pastebin.com is broken :)
[01:26] <synd> J35U5: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#dvdrip
[01:26] <djm62> IIIEars: yeah, and I think it's probably impossible to make it work perfectly for everyone...it's great for me
[01:26] <defz> like everything else today
[01:26] <synd> defz: use pastebin.ca
[01:26] <J35U5> thanks again lol
[01:26] <seth_k> synd, sorry :S
[01:26] <Twitch> I need some quick help setting my monitor up for it's specific settings
[01:26] <stianh> Mez, thanks, your suggestion worked :)
[01:26] <Mez> :D
[01:26] <Twitch> instead of using the generic monitor settings
[01:26] <Mez> ood to hear
[01:27] <Mez> twitch - run the command
[01:27] <wc_nix> i'm so screwed
[01:27] <IIIEars> djm62 - It is an amazing thing for or an old windows user to tweak sorce code. :)
[01:27] <Mez> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:27] <Twitch> Mez: could you be a little more specific?
[01:27] <Mez> Twicth - command above
[01:27] <djm62> IIIEars: it's more amazing for an old-time linuxer not to have to ;)
[01:27] <Mez> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:27] <Twitch> mez: ah ok thank you
[01:27] <IIIEars> heh - as you might imagine for me it means a lot of double checking for errors. ;)
[01:28] <Mez> mdz ... ping ?
[01:28] <defz> seth_k: http://pastebin.ca/14192
[01:28] <mdz> Mez: ?
[01:28] <Mez> can you add about us archive to topic ?
[01:28] <Mez> please
[01:28] <J35U5> vote for pedro!
[01:29] <IIIEars> pedro?
[01:29] <seth_k> Mez, it is already
[01:29] <kvidell> HAHAHA
[01:29] <seth_k> Mez, look at third item
[01:29] <Twitch> napoleon dynamite
[01:29] <Mez> (sorry to disturb you mdz - you're the only op)
[01:29] <kvidell> GOSH!
[01:29] <Mez> oh
[01:29] <Mez> damn I'm blind
[01:29] <Mez> sorry matt!
[01:29] <J35U5> i flipping hate you.
[01:29] <seth_k> defz, see all those lines with http://us.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[01:29] <IIIEars> Hi kveidell! - How is it going?
[01:29] <seth_k> defz, change them all to http://archive.ubuntu.com
[01:29] <kvidell> Not too shabby.
[01:29] <seth_k> defz, your problems will go away :D
[01:29] <kvidell> I need to buy the Napolean Dynamite DVD though
[01:29] <kvidell> I haven't seen it in awhile.
[01:30] <J35U5> kvidell, watching it now lol
[01:30] <kvidell> nice :)
[01:30] <defz> seth_k: if they do
[01:30] <defz> i will drink a bottle of rum
[01:30] <defz> and do cartwheels down the street
[01:30] <defz> naked.
[01:31] <Mez> where do you live defz?
[01:31] <defz> minnesota
[01:31] <morf3o> Demitar, i installed proftpd..... and now how i start it?
[01:31] <Mez> Iwanna see if i can find someone with a camera by there
[01:31] <seth_k> defz: um, on second thought, change those sources to http://nonaked.defz.com
[01:31] <J35U5> i can acctually play that white stripes song that plays in the begining.
[01:31] <kvidell> Anyone know of a GUI Frontend for RSync? Sometiems I'm lazy and GUI stuff is nice.
[01:32] <defz> seth
[01:32] <defz> still doing it
[01:32] <defz> er, its still trying to look at us.archives
[01:33] <defz> damnit, i renamed the wrong file :)
[01:33] <defz> one sec
[01:33] <Mez> o_O
[01:34] <Mez> defz, in /etc/apt/sources.list just change all the us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com
[01:34] <Mez> and then do a sudo apt-get update
[01:34] <Mez> sudo apt-get clean
[01:34] <defz> woooooo
[01:34] <defz> its working!
[01:34] <seth_k> start dancing!
[01:34] <defz> hahah
[01:34] <kvidell> dance monkey!
[01:34] <kvidell> dancing queen?
[01:34] <seth_k> Looks like they just turned off authentication on US archive, so problem worked around for now!
[01:35] <seth_k> defz is already scaring people away :D
[01:36] <defz> now i just need my sound to work :/
[01:36] <defz> thats what i get for buying a fancy $500 audio card
[01:38] <bpuccio> defz: what sound card do you have?
[01:38] <defz> terratec ews88/mt
[01:39] <wc_nix> still cant get X11 to start
[01:39] <wc_nix> :-(
[01:39] <defz> eh, mplayer isnt showing any video, but thats probably just a codec issue
[01:40] <turnpike420> anyone have experience with the ipw2200 and trying to connect to an access point that has WEP key enabled?
[01:41] <turnpike420> I was nicely surprised when it was auto installed and I connected to an open wifi last week... now I'm trying to connect to home
[01:44] <djm62> turnpike420: have you tried System->Administration->Networking
[01:44] <turnpike420> djm62: yes, I'm on a thinkpad T42, the green LED for the wifi is also off at the moment
[01:45] <djm62> turnpike420: have you got a command line up?
[01:45] <turnpike420> I do
[01:45] <djm62> what's ifconfig saying?
[01:46] <dennis> who here has installed cvscedega?
[01:47] <turnpike420> djm62: ifconfig says I have no ip
[01:47] <turnpike420> my wifi is my eth1
[01:48] <djm62> turnpike420: ifup eth1 says?
[01:48] <turnpike420> claims already up
[01:48] <djm62> iwconfig?
[01:48] <IIIEars> dennis - I am really new to linux and interested in cedega. - talking to someone here on freenode in #cedega I heard that the 2.4 kernel is better for cedega. (something about a scheduler) is that true?
[01:49] <turnpike420> djm62: it shows my ESSID correctly for "iwconfig eth1"
[01:49] <djm62> does it show a WEP key?
[01:49] <mae> is there any way to downgrade from breezy to hoary
[01:49] <turnpike420> no, but /etc/network/interfaces does
[01:50] <mae> breezy is screwed right now :)
[01:50] <sauld> hi
[01:50] <seth_k> Mae, why do you say that? I'm running it right now, fully updated
[01:51] <wc_nix> dudes and dudetts
[01:51] <wc_nix> i fixed the problem
[01:51] <djm62> try iwconfig eth1 key <whatever your key is>
[01:51] <wc_nix> i just reinstalled NVIDIA drivers once again
[01:51] <mae> seth_k: getting that fixed font deal :( i looked at forums.. they said to reinstall xfonts-base and then dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but to no avail.. same prob
[01:51] <wc_nix> and it worked
[01:51] <wc_nix> :-D
[01:51] <wc_nix> remember that for future reference
[01:51] <gnoob> where are dudetts?
[01:51] <wc_nix> dunno
[01:51] <wc_nix> :-(
[01:51] <wc_nix> wish i had one
[01:51] <djm62> turnpike420: try iwconfig eth1 key YOURKEY
[01:51] <turnpike420> djm62: yup, tried that too... had to use sudo of course
[01:52] <djm62> turnpike420: any messages (I presume no joy)
[01:52] <turnpike420> nothing returned to the screen upon entering that command
[01:52] <djm62> which should indicate it's good...
[01:52] <KarlosII> mvg can somoene contact me please
[01:52] <turnpike420> I changed my WRT54G to Auto instead of Shared Key and at least I indicate a signal now...
[01:53] <djm62> dhclient eth1 ?
[01:53] <turnpike420> tried that too... failed before, but now that I show a signal, I'll try again
[01:53] <seth_k> mae, I'll PM you so as not to clog channel
[01:53] <jbpeele> uh so what's going on with the nerim repositories?
[01:53] <sauld> hablas espa;ol
[01:53] <djm62> jbpeele: see topic
[01:54] <djm62> sauld: try #ubuntu-es
[01:54] <JohnnyQuest> i need help with installing qt3 with multithreading
[01:54] <jbpeele> djm62: i don't see anything pertaining to that
[01:54] <sauld> thank you!!! djm62
[01:54] <turnpike420> djm62: doens't seem to want to get a dhcp address
[01:55] <jbpeele> the nerim repo doesn't use anything with ubuntu in its name
[01:55] <turnpike420> I know the ipw2200 has worked on an open WRT54G before... but that was at another location
[01:55] <seth_k> jbpeele: nerim repos shouldn't be used, use backports for stuff you want that would be in nerim
[01:55] <jbpeele> seth_k: ok thanks, is this a recent change after the inclusion of the backports project?
[01:55] <djm62> turnpike420: what sort of error are you getting? timeout?
[01:56] <seth_k> jbpeele: well, backports has only recently started to carry the packages you'd need from nerim, like w32codecs
[01:56] <seth_k> jbpeele, so I guess yes
[01:56] <djm62> turnpike420: have you tried the same hardware under a different OS?
[01:56] <jbpeele> ok cool, thanks
[01:56] <JohnnyQuest> i need help with installing qt3 with multithreading
[01:56] <turnpike420> djm62: seems that way yes ... and ya, the T42 came with XP on it, I tested a few things quickly before intalling ubuntu
[01:57] <turnpike420> djm62: my error is "no dhcpoffers received"
[01:57] <_4strO> mIRC v6.14 Khaled Mardam-Bey
[01:58] <djm62> is the router definitely completely open?  offering dhcp? not blocking MAC
[01:58] <dennis> Has anyone here installed cedegacvs?
[01:58] <turnpike420> djm62: my WRT54G has WEP on key 4, shared key, and mac allow list, and I've triple verififed the mac address is on the allow list correctly
[01:59] <ubuntu> Hi, I am running Ubuntu from CD. How I can mount hard drive?
[01:59] <Andril> hello all
[01:59] <djm62> turnpike420: is the MAC on the list allocated a specific IP?
[02:00] <turnpike420> no, I allow it do get any IP in the dhcp range
[02:00] <defz> Is anyone here familiar with Envy24 audio card chipsets working in Ubuntu?
[02:00] <turnpike420> speaking of... my WRT54G doesn't actually give out the ip address... it's the dhcpd on my firewall that does my dhcp
[02:00] <djm62> ?
[02:00] <jbroome> can you look at the FW dhcp logs?
[02:00] <gnoob> how well does ubuntu play as a dual boot with windows XP?  Maybe I should say that questiong backwards.  But you get the point.
[02:01] <seth_k> gnoob: fine, I'm doing it on two machines
[02:01] <dennis> gnoob, it does fine?
[02:01] <dennis> I'm doing it right now...
[02:01] <gnoob> cool
[02:01] <djm62> firewall<-->router<-->you  ?
[02:01] <gnoob> does well on laptops also?
[02:01] <gnoob> old dell
[02:01] <seth_k> gnoob, running it on a dell inspiron 600m right now and typing this message to you
[02:01] <dennis> lol
[02:02] <turnpike420> ya, my WRT54G is just an AP and switch, nothing plugged into the "internet" port...
[02:02] <dennis> HAS ANYONE HERE INSTALLED CEDEGACVS??!!!!
[02:02] <IIIEars> (covers ears) pleease don't use caps here.
[02:02] <jbroome> dennis: since you've asked three times, at least.  I'm thinking no.
[02:02] <dennis> lol
[02:02] <dennis> I need help :(
[02:02] <jbroome> no shit
[02:02] <djm62> turnpike420: will a WRT54G pass on dhcp requests like that?  if you have a firewall, can you try with a fixed IP to check?
[02:02] <dark> dennis: try #cedega?
[02:03] <IIIEars> dennis no luck in #cedega?
[02:03] <turnpike420> djm62: ya, it' sjust a switch... it has worked fine for many other clients this way
[02:03] <jbroome> turnpike420: i just had an idea..
[02:03] <turnpike420> jbroome: ya?
[02:04] <jbroome> we set up a wrt for a client that was doing just like you are, but we set a static route on the wrt54g that pointed back to the gateway/firewall
[02:04] <defz> cd /etc
[02:04] <defz> ls
[02:04] <gnoob> cool, i may give it a shot
[02:04] <defz> errr
[02:04] <jbroome> turned of dhcp, etc on the wrt
[02:05] <turnpike420> jbroome: dhcp is off on the wrt
[02:05] <turnpike420> works perfectly for the wired... b/c I'm on it now... :p and it has always worked for XP and other linux folks here
[02:05] <jbroome> static route
[02:06] <turnpike420> never needed before
[02:06] <GXT_23> Nabend
[02:06] <GXT_23> Gibt es einen Befhel mit dem ich bestimmte Ports unter Ubunut schlieen kann
[02:06] <Rotund> Anyone actually get firefox-gnome-support to work?
[02:06] <Rotund> do I have to build a new profile?
[02:07] <turnpike420> djm62: the WRT54G is nothing more than a switch with AP on it... nothing fancy
[02:07] <sproingie> kein deutsch sprechen hier, gehst du #ubuntu-de
[02:08] <WillySilly> is there a way for me to see whats making inotify start?
[02:08] <ubuntu> Looks like no responce from anyone :( Still asking: i am running LiveCD how I can mount my own hdd to it?
[02:08] <djm62> turnpike420: I'm completely lost here, I'm afraid...can't think of anything to do that you haven't done
[02:09] <LinuxJones> ubuntu, have a look @ www.ubuntuguide.org (it depends on the partition types you have)
[02:09] <Rotund> ubuntu: use mount
[02:10] <djm62> turnpike420: unless...you use dhclient -s and specify the server IP
[02:10] <turnpike420> djm62: ya... so another has said as well... I'm a bit confused for sure... I can pull out my other really really old laptop and it connects (under winxp) no prob
[02:10] <djm62> but I can't even exactly see where the problem is :-/
[02:10] <wc_ubuntu> hello
[02:10] <wc_ubuntu> aw crap i left wc_nix on
[02:11] <wc_ubuntu> oh well, question: Anybody get VLC to work in Ubuntu?
[02:11] <teresa> hello
[02:11] <wc_ubuntu> i even used the apt engine and installed it
[02:11] <wc_ubuntu> and VLC will not run
[02:11] <IIIEars> VLC - works fine. :)
[02:11] <Rotund> wc_ubuntu: I haven't had problems
[02:11] <wc_ubuntu> mine gives a stupid error
[02:11] <IIIEars> ?
[02:11] <Rotund> wc_nix: i386 AND ppc
[02:11] <wc_ubuntu> VLC media player 0.8.1 Janus
[02:11] <wc_ubuntu> Segmentation fault
[02:11] <Rotund> =)
[02:11] <wc_ubuntu> is all it says
[02:11] <wc_ubuntu> wont open
[02:12] <squirrelkiller> is there a way to restore the default panel in gnome ?
[02:12] <Rotund> wc_ubuntu: wait... I think I HAVE seen that
[02:12] <IIIEars> wc_ubuntu - are you familiar with the strace command? - i am kind of new only used it once
[02:12] <Rotund> wc_ubuntu: in your home dir, do rm -rf .vlc
[02:12] <wc_ubuntu> nno
[02:13] <wc_ubuntu> never heard of strace
[02:13] <Rotund> I think that happens when a bad theme is picked
[02:13] <wc_ubuntu> home dir?
[02:13] <wc_ubuntu> for which account
[02:13] <Rotund> whichever you are running it from
[02:13] <wc_ubuntu> oh
[02:13] <wc_ubuntu> i did it
[02:13] <wc_ubuntu> and it still gives same error
[02:13] <Rotund> darn
[02:13] <turnpike420> djm62: nope, no go, but I'm on the wired port of the WRT54G right now, so I know dhcp is ok... or I wouldn't be typing to you
[02:14] <WillySilly> is there a way for me to see whats making inotify start?
[02:14] <wc_ubuntu> IIIEars, i just did strace vlc
[02:14] <wc_ubuntu> and it stopped at this.
[02:14] <wc_ubuntu> --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) @ 0 (0) ---
[02:14] <wc_ubuntu> +++ killed by SIGSEGV +++
[02:14] <Rotund> wc_ubuntu: what about "ldd /usr/bin/vlc"  what does that return?
[02:14] <IIIEars> !paste
[02:14] <ubotu> rumour has it, paste is ""http://ubuntu.pastebin.com http://pastebin.com or #flood here on freenode.""
[02:14] <kfarrell> Hello, I zapped mu .XAutority file, and now I can't graphicaly sudo. Anyone know how I can replace this file?
[02:15] <Madpilot> afternoon, all. what's "getty", and why does it need to run six instances of itself on my machine?
[02:15] <_dockane_> how do i unmute myself in the linux teamspeak client ? had that problem with ubuntu on my laptop but cant remembe how i solved it
[02:15] <djm62> turnpike420: sounds to me like something you should take some time out from...I presume you have tried to find similar stuff on google?
[02:15] <wc_ubuntu> Rotund, what am i looking for?
[02:15] <wc_ubuntu> i did that command it it shows stuff
[02:15] <Rotund> Madpilot: it's the login for all 6 virtual terminals
[02:15] <wc_ubuntu> it shows the dependencies
[02:15] <Rotund> wc_ubuntu: anything like "not found"?
[02:15] <turnpike420> djm62: ya, I'm gonna give up for now... gonna watch this "Into the West" on TNT... thanks for helping
[02:15] <wc_ubuntu> no
[02:15] <wc_ubuntu> everything's there
[02:15] <IIIEars> wc_ubuntu - strace is new to me. - really dont now what that error means. :/
[02:16] <wc_ubuntu> i did a dependency thing earlier
[02:16] <TokenBad> what was command to install from a deb file again?
[02:16] <djm62> turnpike420: #ubuntu : technical AND spiritual support ;) good luck
[02:16] <wc_ubuntu> with apt-get deb something
[02:16] <wc_ubuntu> i have it in an alias
[02:16] <WillySilly> is there a way for me to see whats making inotify start?
[02:16] <Madpilot> Rotund: OK, interesting. Google was not informative, and I've been poking around under the hood this afternoon...
[02:16] <TokenBad> I have the deb file on my drive already
[02:16] <wc_ubuntu> apt-get build-dep vlc
[02:16] <wc_ubuntu> i ran that earlier
[02:16] <turnpike420> djm62: thanks...
[02:16] <ubuntu> LinuxJones: Thanks, I mounted it!
[02:16] <IIIEars> TokenBad - Hi
[02:17] <Rotund> wc_ubuntu: The command I gave may point out an issue in the packaging of the file.
[02:17] <wc_ubuntu> i dont see any problems
[02:17] <Rotund> Madpilot: yeah, it's not a problem.  Shouldn't take much memory anyways
[02:17] <kfarrell> Does anyone know how to replace ones .XAuthority file in /root ?
[02:17] <Rotund> kfarrell: You shouldn't log in as root ;)
[02:17] <Owner> ooh, i have a virus, nice
[02:17] <Owner> err
[02:18] <Amaranth> stupid windows machine
[02:18] <kfarrell> Rotund: It's just so graphical sudo works
[02:18] <LinuxJones> ubuntu, good stuff :)
[02:18] <wc_ubuntu> btw i was trying to install Crossover office
[02:18] <wc_ubuntu> and it gave me this
[02:18] <wc_ubuntu> Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate loadable module in module_path: "libindustrial.so",
[02:18] <WillySilly> is there a way for me to see whats making inotify start?
[02:18] <kfarrell> I keep getting this error: Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.
[02:18] <wc_ubuntu> WillySilly, yes
[02:18] <IIIEars> Amaranth - Arrgh! - you didn't actually connect windows to another machine did you? - ouch
[02:18] <wc_ubuntu> you need to check the PID
[02:19] <wc_ubuntu> look for the Parent ID and you'll see what opened it
[02:19] <wc_ubuntu> type ps
[02:19] <Zzzippo> where would I find modules for ethernet cards?
[02:19] <Madpilot> Rotund: 0% of CPU, 1.5Mb each of memory - minute. just curious WRT the duplication
[02:19] <kfarrell> bah it's OK, I worked it out *8P
[02:19] <TokenBad> sup IIIEars
[02:19] <TokenBad> how you doing?
[02:19] <ubuntu> Well, one more question, and what about extended partiotion?
[02:20] <wc_ubuntu> WillySilly, if you dont see it
[02:20] <wc_ubuntu> try ps -ef
[02:20] <wc_ubuntu> it'll show every process along with the IDs
[02:20] <TokenBad> IIIEars, what is command to install a deb file from local drive?
[02:21] <wc_ubuntu> and if you want to find just the thing you're looking for
[02:21] <wc_ubuntu> do ps -ef | grep inotify
[02:21] <wc_ubuntu> hope that helps
[02:21] <IIIEars> TokenBad - About the same. - poking about in C++ tutorials. - it's enough to drive an ex windows user giddy with exitement and profoundly confused. - lol
[02:21] <massimo> ciao
[02:21] <IIIEars> TokenBad - dpkg -i <yourfile.deb>?
[02:22] <TokenBad> wooo
[02:22] <TokenBad> that worked
[02:22] <TokenBad> thanks
[02:22] <IIIEars> TokenBad - take a look at "alien" - nice
[02:23] <ubuntu> LinuxJones: What options should I specify when mounting extended partition?
[02:24] <WillySilly> nothing
[02:24] <WillySilly> didnt show anything
[02:25] <_dockane_> oss / alsa -> confusing
[02:25] <WillySilly> grrr
[02:27] <wc_ubuntu> it didnt?
[02:27] <wc_ubuntu> then the program isnt open
[02:27] <wc_ubuntu> :-\
[02:27] <WillySilly> nope
[02:27] <wc_ubuntu> if the program opens again, do what i told you, while the program is still open
[02:27] <wc_ubuntu> it wont work if you close it before doing what i said
[02:28] <WillySilly> EIP is at inotify_super_block_umount+0x55/0x104
[02:28] <WillySilly> EIP is at inotify_super_block_umount+0x55/0x104
[02:28] <WillySilly>  [<c0166ed5>]  inotify_super_block_umount+0x55/0x104
[02:28] <WillySilly> EIP is at inotify_super_block_umount+0x55/0x104
[02:28] <WillySilly>  [<c0166ed5>]  inotify_super_block_umount+0x55/0x104
[02:28] <wc_ubuntu> ...
[02:28] <WillySilly> thats what i get when i do dmesg | grep "inotify"
[02:28] <Gskillet> Anyone here used FakeAP before
[02:29] <teresa> I have a doubt...   I have hoary and install CUPSD, but when I try send a page test no print
[02:29] <LinuxJones> ubuntu, you don't have to add anything special for an extended partition
[02:29] <WillySilly> slocate inotify
[02:29] <WillySilly> /dev/inotify
[02:29] <WillySilly> /dev/.udevdb/class@misc@inotify
[02:29] <WillySilly>  /sys/class/misc/inotify/dev
[02:29] <WillySilly>  /sys/class/misc/inotify/dev
[02:29] <WillySilly>  /sys/class/misc/inotify
[02:29] <teresa> I have a doubt...   I have hoary and install CUPSD, but when I try send a page test no print, anybody can help me?
[02:29] <XandriX> WillySilly, man what are u doing spamming like that
[02:30] <raz> Could anyone tell me why some of my windows show up with fugly fonts? here's an exemple: http://rghandour.tripod.com/Screenshot.png
[02:30] <IIIEars> !cups
[02:30] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, IIIEars
[02:30] <IIIEars> !samba
[02:30] <ubotu> hmm... samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba
[02:30] <J35U5> teresa, is this a network printer?
[02:30] <IIIEars> !printing
[02:30] <ubotu> IIIEars: I don't know, could you explain it?
[02:30] <j2dope> does anyone know how i can get my wlan usb card (wifi card) workin with ubuntu?
[02:30] <Gskillet> Anyone here used FakeAP before
[02:30] <_drake> raz: gtk vs gtk2
[02:31] <teresa> J35U5, no, printer is in my parallel port...
[02:31] <raz> _drake, explain?
[02:31] <J35U5> go system>administration>printing.
[02:31] <IIIEars> (slaps self with a large fish)
[02:31] <J35U5> see if it auto-detected.
[02:31] <_drake> raz: mplayer is built with gtk1 and everything else there is gtk2. you need to set your gtk1 fonts
[02:32] <_drake> raz: gtk-theme-switch2 can change the fonts for gtk2 ---- gtk-theme-switch might beable to do it for gtk1 (im not possitive though)
[02:32] <_drake> anyone use windowmaker?
[02:32] <ubuntu> LinuxJones: Well I worked it out, thx
[02:32] <Ninwa> Does anyone have a little time to help me troubleshoot a basic compilation problem? It's a game called stepmania, but the problem is generic. I run ./configure and it says it cannot find install-sh in ./autoconf, but it is in there.
[02:33] <TokenBad> hmm
[02:33] <TokenBad> I am confused
[02:33] <teresa> J35U5, all is well (system>administration>printing) until try print a test page...
[02:33] <TokenBad> I did the setup of pureftp
[02:33] <TokenBad> but can't locate it anywhere
[02:33] <wc_ubuntu> hey what is the name of that firewall i was using yesterday
[02:33] <wc_ubuntu> fire something
[02:33] <IIIEars> TokenBad - slocate?
[02:33] <wc_ubuntu> firesurge?
[02:33] <wc_ubuntu> firespirit?
[02:33] <TokenBad> I tried that
[02:33] <wc_ubuntu> no....
[02:33] <Ninwa> It might be important to note the file install-sh is black and red when I ls, I'm not sure what that represnets
[02:33] <Ninwa> represents
[02:33] <wc_ubuntu> it's popular one for Linux
[02:33] <wc_ubuntu> firesomething
[02:34] <pfp> oh, dear, for f*cks sakes
[02:34] <raz> _drake, will try that, ty.
[02:34] <pfp> the MD driver changes it's device numbering *each* time an array is changed :(
[02:35] <Madpilot> wc_ubuntu: firestarter?
[02:35] <_drake> raz: good luck
[02:35] <wc_ubuntu> yep
[02:35] <wc_ubuntu> thx
[02:35] <_drake> anyone know what theme this is?
[02:35] <_drake> http://lynucs.org/index.php?screen_id=17589157784291319594ee4&p=screen
[02:35] <wc_ubuntu> how come triggers do not work the same in Firefox for linux as they do in Firefox for windows
[02:35] <wc_ubuntu> in windows i can setup triggers to search fields to make quick searching available
[02:35] <wc_ubuntu> cannot do that in linux, wont work
[02:36] <WillySilly> anyone know if someone has fixed the inotify problem in ubuntu?
[02:36] <wc_ubuntu> google it
[02:36] <pfp> .. which means that my /usr, /var, /home keep changing places, which makes things a bit difficult... does anyone have a cure for this?
[02:36] <wc_ubuntu> search string: inotify + ubuntu
[02:36] <abarbaccia> hey, when i go to install something im getting unmet dependencies and a list of files that are not of high enough version to be compatible - anyway to force it to ignore those errors?
[02:36] <orbit> hey all, I'm new to ubunut, just installed over Gentoo.  When I load up I can log into my normal user but when I try to add/remove programs my root password is no good
[02:36] <orbit> but when I go into terminal and do su -
[02:36] <orbit> it works fine
[02:36] <orbit> any ideas?
[02:37] <orbit> *ubuntu
[02:37] <dooglus> don't use your root password
[02:37] <abarbaccia> orbit, you sould use sudo
[02:37] <j2dope> sudo
[02:37] <dooglus> use your user password
[02:37] <orbit> ok2k
[02:37] <wc_ubuntu> orbit,
[02:37] <j2dope> as far as I know u don't really log in as root
[02:37] <wc_ubuntu> yeah what he said
[02:37] <wc_ubuntu> lol
[02:37] <_drake> orbit, just do `sudo synaptic` or `sudo apt-get install`
[02:37] <wc_ubuntu> beat me to it
[02:37] <wc_ubuntu> gtg eat supper, afk
[02:37] <j2dope> type 'sudo <command>'
[02:37] <Madpilot> orbit: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[02:37] <abarbaccia> orbit, if you want a su term, use sudo -s
[02:37] <j2dope> and then ur user password
[02:37] <j2dope> that's how i do it
[02:37] <IIIEars> !rootsudo - excellent informative
[02:37] <ubotu> IIIEars: I don't know
[02:37] <IIIEars> !rootsudo
[02:37] <ubotu> I heard rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[02:38] <orbit> I just guessed that when it asked for passord to add/remove it meant root
[02:38] <dooglus> orbit: it's not clear, is it.  it means your own password
[02:38] <orbit> dooglus, thanks, Im used to gentoo too much I guess
[02:38] <dooglus> orbit: by default there *is* no root password
[02:38] <orbit> dooglus, I realised that when going into recovery to set one
[02:39] <IIIEars> ubotu tell orbit !rootsudo
[02:39] <j2dope> so.. anybody,,, wireless networking with ubuntu?....
[02:39] <dooglus> orbit: if there's no root password, nobody can guess it...
[02:39] <ghostless> Is there a tutorial on installing Windows XP as a secondary boot using Ubuntu to do partitioning etc...?
[02:39] <dooglus> orbit: but also, if your system crashes and fsdk on reboot asks for the root password, you're screwed
[02:40] <orbit> thats true but I prefer to set my own, its about 20 chars long and is mixed caps/non-caps and numbers
[02:40] <orbit> so I feel pretty safe
[02:40] <IIIEars> !dualboot
[02:40] <ubotu> IIIEars: Are you smoking crack?
[02:40] <dooglus> orbit: so you can "sudo passwd" to set one
[02:40] <orbit> ok, thanks
[02:40] <Madpilot> IIIEars: somebody's programmed attitude into ubotu... :D
[02:41] <orbit> right, I'll leave this upgrading, night all
[02:41] <david> later
[02:41] <drake_> what is the daemon that has to run so i can have gnome/gtk apps run properly in another windowmanager (ie window maker). so the icons will show up and whatnot
[02:42] <IIIEars> ubotu dualboot is ""http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38398 hm ""
[02:42] <ubotu> IIIEars: okay
[02:42] <ghostless> Does anyone know of a tutorial on installing Windows XP as a secondary boot using Ubuntu to do partitioning etc...?
[02:43] <abarbaccia> ghostless, you dont wanna install windows AFTER linux - its too many problems
[02:43] <ghostless> abarbaccia, really....how so?
[02:43] <seth_k> ghostless, MBR trouble
[02:43] <zukalk> who needs win, anyway?
[02:43] <seth_k> ghostless, Windows doesn't play nice with non-Windows OSes
[02:43] <ghostless> I need for photoshop...I can't stand gimp
[02:44] <Madpilot> ghostless: google "gimpshop"
[02:44] <ghostless> And this computer happens to have a nice monitor
[02:44] <zukalk> doesn't photoshop work with wine?
[02:44] <WillySilly> anyone know if someone has fixed the inotify problem in ubuntu?
[02:44] <jaysinn> vmware on top of Ubuntu
[02:44] <britt_radiofree> ok, anyone using flickr at all?
[02:44] <ghostless> zukalk, if it does that would be great...I was trying the new CS 2 though
[02:44] <IIIEars> ubotu dualboot is also "" !grub""
[02:44] <ghostless> Madpilot, I will thank you
[02:44] <ubotu> okay, IIIEars
[02:44] <dooglus> how many characters of your password are significant?  it used to be that only the first 8 were used, but not any more
[02:45] <zukalk> ghostless, i don't know, i'm just assuming it works
[02:45] <ghostless> zukalk, Oh ok...Well I guess and older version would...But CS 2 doesn't
[02:45] <ghostless> an*
[02:45] <delltony> anyone mind helping me get transcode installed? it keeps complaing about libavcodec and i can't seem to find it anywhere :(
[02:46] <britt_radiofree> anyone using ANY flash apps heavily? If so could you try right clicking and clicking settings and seeing if it renders properly
[02:48] <TokenBad> I gove i[
[02:48] <TokenBad> give up even
[02:48] <apollo2011> Can Ubuntu handle rpms in any way? Because JavaHMO only comes in an rpm.
[02:48] <ghostless> Madpilot: Is there somewhere I can download a Linux version...Or a package...All I see is a mac os version
[02:48] <bluefoxicy> anyone played doom3?
[02:48] <WillySilly> apollo2011: use alien to convert the rpm
[02:49] <Madpilot> ghostless: just a moment...
[02:49] <ghostless> Madpilot, ok thanks =)
[02:49] <apollo2011> WillySilly: Thanks
[02:50] <apollo2011> bluefoxicy: I played the demo
[02:50] <WillySilly> np
[02:50] <scott_> can xinerama be set up with an ati card?
[02:50] <Madpilot> ghostless: http://freshmeat.net/projects/gimpshop/?branch_id=57360&release_id=192296
[02:50] <ghostless> Madpilot, Thank you sir
[02:50] <Madpilot> ghostless: no .deb, but there are instructions for using alien to convert the rpm, it seems
[02:51] <Madpilot> ...but this is one of those times when I'm actually clooless, and am just copying what google finds for me... ;)
[02:51] <jind> scott_, yes. Sure. But I cannot help you with ut though since I have intel card and the configurations are different. Google helps :)
[02:51] <popeye> 50hitlerpost?
[02:51] <synd> what the command to re-establish eth0 connection?
[02:51] <ghostless> Madpilot, Alright I'll try to figure it out, thanks
[02:52] <scott_> i have been googling for 2 days and havent been able to set up my dual monitor system properly with a radeon 9200
[02:52] <IIIEars> synd ifup?
[02:52] <bluefoxicy> apollo2011:  a window manager exactly like the save/option screen would be fucking cool
[02:52] <delltony> anyone mind helping me get transcode installed please
[02:52] <synd> IIIEars: iono
[02:52] <synd> ifup eth0, right?
[02:53] <synd> hmm.. odd i just reconnected the cable and i didnt have to do ifup..
[02:53] <synd> it jsut worked : /
[02:53] <IIIEars> synd - (shrug) 6th week - have had nearly every problem but that one. - :/
[02:53] <synd> i see
[02:54] <jind> scott_, it's difficult yes. Xorg is quite new still, and the documentation sucks. Really. I spent 3 days just to find ut which options I needed, and 3 more days to recompile xorg from cvs to gain a complete xorg installation with a updated intel driver I needed for dual screen and 3d accelleration
[02:54] <synd> anyone use a WPC54G Linksys PCMCIA card?
[02:55] <IIIEars> don't get me wrong ubuntu is great. - i just like to break things.  (it's an "issue" - lol)
[02:55] <karstensommer> Anyone know how to see the local windows drives in Ubuntu ?
[02:55] <WillySilly> anyone know if someone has fixed the inotify problem in ubuntu?
[02:55] <xero> hey... can anybody help me? i am trying to get my dual monitors working w/ my ati 9700
[02:55] <synd> IIIEars: i know what you mean LD
[02:55] <synd> :D*
[02:55] <TokenBad> well I still can't get a ftp server installed
[02:55] <TokenBad> so can have friend fxp me stuff
[02:55] <xero> i have fglrx actually installed and working w/ openGL (i think) i just need to know how to setup dual monitors now
[02:56] <zukalk> karstensommer: this might help http://ubuntuguide.org/#windows
[02:56] <IIIEars> xero - this is what i have. http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-22412.html
[02:56] <scott_> xero - i am here for the exact same reason, been trying for 2 days
[02:57] <xero> scott_ on jeez ":-P
[02:57] <xero> IIIEars: thanks ill try to see if i dont crash it :-P
[02:57] <sysrq> it's not really a ubuntu specific issue, and dual monitors is well documented on the web
[02:57] <IIIEars> true
[02:58] <IIIEars> <nVidia - :P
[02:58] <delltony> anyone been able to get transcode to install from the respository?
[02:58] <JohnnyQuest> what is fakeap?
[02:59] <IIIEars> delltony - the repo is misbehaving substitue archive. for us.
[02:59] <ghostless> Ummm...How do I install a .deb
[02:59] <ghostless> ?
[02:59] <defz> dpkg -i filename.deb
[02:59] <WillySilly> dpkg -i <file>
[02:59] <ghostless> defz: many thanks
[02:59] <zukalk> add 'sudo' or make sure you're root
[02:59] <ghostless> ok, you are very helpful blokes, thanks
[02:59] <delltony> ok will try but i'm only have dependency issues on that one package
[02:59] <delltony> :(
[02:59] <defz> if only my problems were so simple :(
[02:59] <apollo2011> I am trying to install Powermated for my Griffin Powermate, and when I compile it, I get this error: http://sial.org/pbot/10997
[03:00] <raz> Is there any way to make GTK fonts look.. umm.. non-horrible?!
[03:00] <mic__> I've been popping in here for a couple of days and picked up so much ty all
[03:00] <xero> IIIEars: well i just tried runing ur xorg.conf file and it didnt work
[03:00] <pfp> raz: do you mean gtk-1, like xmms?
[03:01] <raz> pfp, gtk-1, yes.
[03:02] <TQuid> Hi folks.  I'm getting more than one md5sum mismatch . . . this is after fiddling with sources.list, is there anything beyond apt-get update I should be doing?
[03:02] <raz> pfp, i downloaded 'gtk theme switch' and it doesn't seem to be working.. like, yes i can change fonts and everything, but it's still horrible. Comic Sans MS, for exemple, blows.
[03:02] <xero> i tried both of the xorg.conf files but none of them were of any help... and as to what to change i dont know what ineed to do
[03:02] <pfp> raz: have you read http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Gtk1Fonts ?
[03:02] <zukalk> TQuid read the topic ;)
[03:02] <dennis_> hi I am trying to install kernel headers and I found this command in google apt-get install kernel-headers-2.6.10 but it does not work
[03:02] <dennis_> could someone help?
[03:03] <ghostless> And umm...how can I uninstall a .deb package?
[03:03] <TQuid> Thank you zukalk.  I'm a doofus.
[03:03] <zukalk> TQuid no problem ;)
[03:03] <zukalk> ghostless dpkg -e <package name>
[03:03] <defz> dennis: are you running apt-get as root?
[03:03] <sysrq> dennis_: apt-cache search headers 2.6.10
[03:03] <dennis_> correct
[03:03] <ghostless> zukalk: thanks, your great
[03:03] <spiderworm> anybody here play nexuiz?
[03:03] <pfp> dennis_: kernel packages are called linux-* on ubuntu. do an 'apt-cache search linux-headers'
[03:04] <raz> pfp, have a look: http://rghandour.tripod.com/Screenshot2.png - will read that
[03:04] <zukalk> ghostless, note: it's the package name, not the filename (.deb)
[03:04] <dennis_> awesome, thanks guys
[03:04] <Echo_Mage> Anyone know the system requirements for Ubuntu?
[03:04] <ghostless> zukalk: Oh ok, thanks
[03:04] <jono> hi all
[03:04] <spiderworm> Echo_Mage: ibm compatible
[03:04] <britt_radiofree> someone must use flash!
[03:04] <jono> which port does hula run on?
[03:04] <britt_radiofree> er, flickr!
[03:05] <Echo_Mage> Nothing else matters then?
[03:05] <ghostless> zukalk: umm how can  find the name?
[03:05] <stuNNed> jono: 8080
[03:05] <Echo_Mage> Memory and processor speed are my main concern?
[03:05] <zukalk> hm
[03:05] <Madpilot> raz: get "msttcorefonts" from Synaptic
[03:05] <spiderworm> Echo_Mage: anything that your processor and memory cant handle, you can turn off
[03:05] <xero> anybody have dual monitors working for an ati radeon card?! i cant get it!
[03:06] <jono> stuNNed, how do I create an account after a default install?
[03:06] <Echo_Mage> got a P3 500 with 64MB RAM, think it will run ok?
[03:06] <david> hey, how would i go about deleting a directory and all its contents
[03:06] <pfp> raz: hmm, my problem was that all fonts were too small to be readable... the screenshot looks like you are missing antialiasing or something
[03:06] <spiderworm> Echo_Mage: just fine
[03:06] <raz> Madeye, i did.
[03:06] <zukalk> ghostless: the package name appears when you installed it ( "Installing <name> .. "), it's usually a matter of guessing
[03:06] <Echo_Mage> kewl
[03:06] <Echo_Mage> thanks guys
[03:06] <xMaximex> how to configure ubuntu to only use alsa ?
[03:06] <stuNNed> jono: https://localhost/89 afaik for the admin interface
[03:06] <ghostless> zukalk: Alrighty thanks
[03:06] <raz> pfp, right.... um, any ideas on how to enable antialiasing for gtk1?
[03:06] <zukalk> ghostless: maybe reading the man pages about dpkg might help, i'm kinda newbie too. open Synaptic, i think you can see what you've installed through dpkg
[03:07] <pfp> raz: no, sorry
[03:07] <jono> stuNNed, what is the admin password?
[03:07] <xero> Echo_Mage: i have a celeron 533 w/ 64mbs in it and it installs fine... i ran gnome and it was QUITE sluggish.  but it does work
[03:07] <stuNNed> raz: it's not supported afaik
[03:07] <ghostless> zukalk: Oh ok that makes it easy, thanks
[03:07] <stuNNed> jono: admin:hula or something
[03:07] <stuNNed> jono: or hula:admin
[03:08] <stuNNed> jono: installing this on ubuntu?
[03:08] <raz> stuNNed, k.. well any ideas on why my gtk1 apps/fonts look so ugly? (as shown in the screenshot above..)
[03:08] <jono> stuNNed, yes
[03:08] <synd> Echo_Mage: gnome really needs about 256MB RAM minimum and a P3 proc to run decently
[03:08] <david> how can i go about deleting a directory and all of its contents in one command?
[03:08] <pfp> david: rm -rf dirname
[03:09] <david> thank you pfp
[03:09] <xero> Echo_Mage: if you were to look for a more lightweight display manager that would b a good idea or just use it as a server
[03:09] <Echo_Mage> Okay may have to find some PC 100 lying around and throw it in there
[03:09] <Echo_Mage> What about KDE is it any better?
[03:09] <synd> KDE is about the same
[03:09] <Echo_Mage> Okay
[03:09] <xero> Echo_Mage: KDE is even more fatt
[03:09] <zukalk> Echo_Mage try Xfce4
[03:10] <synd> xfce4 or fluxbox
[03:10] <synd> is your best bet
[03:10] <jono> stuNNed, hmm doesnt work
[03:10] <stuNNed> jono: http://hula-project.org/Installation_Ubuntu
[03:10] <FR500> hello, how do i install gnome splash themes?
[03:10] <jono> stuNNed, cheers
[03:10] <pfp> FR500: http://art.gnome.org/ -> FAQ
[03:11] <jono> stuNNed, no username/password indicated there
[03:11] <Echo_Mage> will do, got the machine running a mepis liv CD at the moment gonna see how well it runs it
[03:11] <synd> Echo_Mage: live cds are ok, but actual installations are better for seeing how well a distro performs
[03:11] <wc_ubuntu> where do you change mouse themes in gnome
[03:11] <wc_ubuntu> ?
[03:11] <xero> Echo_Mage: just remember a livecd is always gonna be slow as heck b/c its a cd
[03:12] <Echo_Mage> Yeah I know
[03:12] <xero> ok
[03:12] <Echo_Mage> Waiting for the ubuntu install disc to finish downloading then gonna throw it on there and see how it runs
[03:12] <david> k
[03:12] <synd> whats mepis use as a default window manager?
[03:12] <Echo_Mage> KDE
[03:12] <synd> ick
[03:12] <stuNNed> jono: should work with user:admin, password:hula
[03:12] <wc_ubuntu> where do you change mouse themes in gnome ???
[03:12] <stuNNed> jono: see http://hula-project.org/Installation_tutorial as wekk
[03:12] <stuNNed> well*
[03:13] <dennis_> has anyone used linuxant driverloader (for wifi)?
[03:13] <synd> wc_ubuntu: no need to ask within 20 secs of your last asking
[03:13] <xero> does anybody know how to get dualmonitors working w/ an ATI card?!??!
[03:13] <synd> wc_ubuntu: if someone knows, theyll speak up
[03:13] <Echo_Mage> Right now I got Mepis 3.3.1 on the machine I am using now, gonna run ubuntu on the other one and see how it runs, if its any better I may start to use it on this machine
[03:13] <wc_ubuntu> didnt think anybody heard me
[03:13] <wc_ubuntu> nobody said they didnt know or knew how
[03:13] <wc_ubuntu> nobody said anything in reply
[03:14] <synd> no one has to reply
[03:14] <synd> if no one replies, then no one knows
[03:14] <wc_ubuntu> i know, but it's a polite gesture to reply
[03:14] <synd> thers too much going on here to rreply
[03:14] <Echo_Mage> Okay I don't know anything sorry
[03:14] <synd> you want 484 replies saying that they dont know?
[03:14] <Redstar> I just did a fresh install of 5.04ppc, and then install Kino for the first time to check it out.. As soon as it loads and has hardly drawn it's windows, it exits to the desktop immediately.  Any idea why?
[03:15] <xMaximex> Totem is working with ALSA but not beep-media-player and gaim .. how can i fix that ?
[03:15] <zukalk> cya lads
[03:15] <crimsun> xMaximex: configure b-m-p to use the alsa output plugin
[03:15] <synd> Redstar: howd it run before Kino?
[03:15] <xero> what is kino?
[03:15] <defz> i dont suppose anyone can help me get XviD working?  I've got Totem working, it plays mpeg files, but I can't seem to get it to play other file formats
[03:15] <xMaximex> crimsun: that's what i did .. and it dont work
[03:15] <xMaximex> gaim is using automatic
[03:15] <crimsun> xMaximex: what did you configure b-m-p to use?
[03:15] <xMaximex> default sound driver in libsao.conf is alsa
[03:15] <xero> defz: i reccomend going with a different player other than Totem
[03:15] <xMaximex> crimsun: alsa
[03:16] <xero> defz: VLC and MPlayer are both excellent choices
[03:16] <Echo_Mage> well gonna go burn the ubuntu install ISO wish me luck
[03:16] <crimsun> xMaximex: libao.conf should use alsa09, not alsa
[03:16] <defz> well my mplayer doesn't work at all
[03:16] <defz> heh
[03:16] <defz> it freezes up
[03:16] <synd> totem-xine is great for dvd
[03:16] <xMaximex> crimsun: ok, i change the file
[03:16] <xMaximex> do i need to relogin ?
[03:16] <synd> VLC is good, as well.
[03:16] <xero> defz: yeah i have the same problem... idk why it does that... and the funny thing is it worked before
[03:17] <xero> defz: xine and VLC you cannot go wrong with
[03:17] <crimsun> xMaximex: no
[03:17] <xero> VLC plays ANYTHING
[03:17] <crimsun> xMaximex: just restart the app using libao
[03:17] <xero> fromw hat ik now
[03:17] <xero> from what i know** :-P
[03:17] <crimsun> xMaximex: I need precise details regarding your alsa configuration in b-m-p
[03:17] <stuNNed> jono: any luck?
[03:17] <xero> you also should install codecs if you havent already
[03:18] <xMaximex> crimsun, the output plugin is alsa0.9
[03:18] <pfp> defz: i also recommend totem-xine, for totem's UI is very nice
[03:18] <defz> ill try vlc
[03:18] <defz> but mplayer just bites
[03:18] <xMaximex> ALSA 0.9.7
[03:18] <xero> defz: www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[03:18] <Redstar> Has anyone had Kino work for them?
[03:18] <crimsun> xMaximex: no, I mean the configuration details
[03:18] <defz> yeah ive been through that
[03:18] <xero> hehe what is kino?!
[03:18] <xMaximex> the default sound system in gnome is alsa
[03:18] <defz> and im still having problems :(
[03:18] <xero> ok
[03:19] <xero> well try VLC and/or xine
[03:19] <Redstar> Dv editing app
[03:19] <xero> they are both in synampic if you have fixed your repositories
[03:19] <crimsun> xMaximex: no. I meant buffer size, mmap, etc.
[03:19] <defz> well isn't totem a frontend to xine?
[03:19] <abarbaccia> hey, when i go to install something im getting unmet dependencies and a list of files that are not of high enough version to be compatible - anyway to force it to ignore those errors?
[03:19] <xMaximex> crimsun: it's working now
[03:19] <xMaximex> for b-m-p
[03:19] <xMaximex> i changed the default card
[03:19] <david> question: can i upgrade my java through apt?
[03:19] <crimsun> xMaximex: good.
[03:19] <xero> defz: i dontk now... but i know that xine has played formats that totem doesnt
[03:20] <defz> WOOO
[03:20] <defz> VLC works
[03:20] <xMaximex> crimsun: but volume is V
[03:20] <xMaximex> VERY high
[03:20] <xMaximex> even with sound off in b-m-p
[03:20] <pfp> defz: there are 2 "totem" frontends, totem-gstreamer and totem-xine
[03:20] <defz> this makes no sense... vlc works great, totem kinda works, mplayer doesn't work at all
[03:20] <crimsun> xMaximex: so turn it down
[03:20] <Echo_Mage> half way there
[03:20] <defz> oh i was using gstreamer i think
[03:20] <crimsun> defz: how does it break?
[03:20] <xMaximex> i can't set the volume with the icon in the upper right of the screen
[03:20] <crimsun> xMaximex: use alsamixer in a Terminal
[03:21] <defz> totem-gstreamer /only/ plays mpeg files
[03:21] <xMaximex> xmaximex@straightbox:~$ alsamixer
[03:21] <xMaximex> No mixer elems found
[03:21] <defz> and mplayer freezes when opening any video file
[03:21] <synd> apt-get install totem-xine
[03:21] <defz> vlc plays them all flawless
[03:21] <crimsun> xMaximex: then you're not using alsa?
[03:21] <xMaximex> crimsun: yes
[03:21] <crimsun> xMaximex: yes you are using alsa, or yes you're not using alsa?
[03:21] <xMaximex> im using alsa
[03:22] <Echo_Mage> CD done gonna throw it on the old clunker and see how it runs
[03:22] <crimsun> xMaximex: cat /proc/asound/cards -> #flood
[03:22] <xMaximex> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[03:22] <Echo_Mage> how many GUIs does Ubuntu come with, just Gnome?
[03:22] <xMaximex> lol
[03:22] <xMaximex> ok
[03:22] <xMaximex> i understand
[03:22] <xero> Echo_Mage: yeah but u can install more if you want to
[03:22] <synd> anyone in the market for an iPod? i found a place that is offering them at 20% off : )
[03:23] <xero> i can pretty much say that u can get it up an running in gnome... but again it will run like butt
[03:23] <Echo_Mage> Yeah think I'm gonna go get Xfce4 and throw it on a CD
[03:23] <xero> defz: ur best bet is just to use VLC then :-P
[03:23] <synd> xfce is great
[03:23] <synd> my favorite
[03:23] <pfp> the s/w RAID1 driver (stock, modular) seems to change the ordrering of arrays on *each* boot if an array's status has changed, resulting in /usr, /home, /var etc switching places. has anyone else seen this?
[03:23] <defz> id like to know whats breaking though :)
[03:23] <Redstar> Does anyone know if a DV camera has to be connected for Kino to load?
[03:23] <defz> now all thats broken is my sound
[03:23] <defz> that might be kind of tricky to fix though
[03:23] <xero> defz: whats not working?
[03:23] <crimsun> xMaximex: are you using the second card (ensoniq) in b-m-p?
[03:24] <synd> defz: did you do the soundfix documented in ubuntuguide.org?
[03:24] <xero> defz: does nothing play sound or does vlc just not work for sound?
[03:24] <xMaximex> crimsun: yes, the usb one is a microphone i thing
[03:24] <FR500> pfp, thanks
[03:24] <xMaximex> think
[03:24] <crimsun> xMaximex: then you have to use alsamixer -c1
[03:24] <defz> I've got a Terratec EWS88MT, which has ICE1712 (Envy24) chipset
[03:24] <drummer87> could someone help me change the firefox symlink in /usr/bin ... i want to give it a different target
[03:24] <defz>  /nothing/ plays sound
[03:24] <crimsun> xMaximex: alsamixer with no parameters will assume -c0
[03:24] <crimsun> defz: cat /proc/asound/cards
[03:24] <defz> 0 [EWS88MT        ] : ICE1712 - TerraTec EWS88MT
[03:24] <defz>                      TerraTec EWS88MT at 0xd400, irq 5
[03:24] <synd> defz: ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly
[03:24] <xMaximex> ok
[03:25] <crimsun> defz: does ,,aplay -Dplughw:0,0 /usr/share/sounds/login.wav'' work?
[03:25] <defz> just type ,,aplay -Dplughw:0,0 /usr/share/sounds/login.wav'' in a shell?
[03:26] <crimsun> without the commas and quotes, yes
[03:26] <defz> no, i dont hear a thing
[03:26] <crimsun> but does it finish playing?
[03:27] <defz> its just hanging
[03:27] <defz> root@ubuntu:/etc/apt # aplay -Dplughw:0,0 /usr/share/sounds/login.wav
[03:27] <defz> and then a blinking cursor on the next line
[03:27] <JohnnyQuest> can anyone help me with an error am having while installing an application?
[03:27] <crimsun> defz: press ctrl+c, then type: pgrep esd
[03:27] <david> anybody know if latest Java is in universe?
[03:27] <defz> 24553
[03:27] <crimsun> david: java is not in universe.
[03:28] <crimsun> defz: System>Preferences>Sound>uncheck "Enable sound server startup"
[03:28] <david> crimsun, do i have to go to java site and manuall download it?
[03:28] <defz> ok
[03:28] <Luakagon> I cannot copy my CD's to my hard drive.  I have a laptop and I move around so I might end up lasering something pretty badly, and plus it's just all-around better on the hard drive.  How do I copy music CDs to my Hard drive?
[03:28] <Echo_Mage> Got Mepis on this machione but want to find a distro based on debian with really good hardware detection and easy package installation, Xandros was okay but not perfect. This one is the best so far, but is finicky about My card Reader and USB Flash stick, hope Ubuntu is better
[03:28] <crimsun> david: there are instructions on the wiki and in the guide
[03:28] <david> k thanks
[03:29] <Redstar> Anyone succesfully used Kino .75 with 5.04?
[03:29] <JohnnyQuest> im installing an apllication and i get the error  'cannot find -lqt-mt', how do i fix this?
[03:29] <drummer87> dw.. did it ;)
[03:29] <synd> Echo_Mage: ubuntu is the best, imo
[03:29] <Echo_Mage> Some odd reason the installer gets stuck on Loading /install/vmlinuz
[03:29] <crimsun> JohnnyQuest: install libqt3-mt-dev and libqt3-compat-headers
[03:29] <JohnnyQuest> ok
[03:30] <JohnnyQuest> i have libqt3-headers, libqt3c102-mt, qt3-dev-tools, qt3.doc all installed
[03:30] <Echo_Mage> Think it might be hung?
[03:30] <scanwinder> does anyone have the imation disc stakka working in linux?
[03:30] <defz> crimsun, let me know when you can finish helping me on the sound thing :)
[03:31] <xMaximex> how to autostart a program when gnome starts ?
[03:31] <pfp> xMaximex: system-preferences-sessions
[03:31] <crimsun> JohnnyQuest: did you tell ./configure where the qt3 headers are located?
[03:31] <synd> xMaximex: sessions
[03:31] <delltony> i ask again cause i'm having no luck at this anyone been able to get transcode to install on ubuntu hoary?
[03:31] <wc_ubuntu> hi
[03:32] <wc_ubuntu> Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate loadable module in module_path: "libindustrial.so"
[03:32] <wc_ubuntu> ever hear of that?
[03:32] <JohnnyQuest> no...
[03:32] <JohnnyQuest> i dont know how to do that
[03:32] <crimsun> JohnnyQuest: often, you have to pass --with-qt=/usr/share/qt3
[03:32] <JohnnyQuest> im too new to linux...
[03:32] <xMaximex> thanks
[03:32] <FR500> a question, what is xdmcp?
[03:32] <crimsun> JohnnyQuest: the precise ./configure option is listed with ./configure --help
[03:32] <JohnnyQuest> ok
[03:32] <JohnnyQuest> well i did ./configure -thread
[03:33] <raz> Anyone knows what's up w/ the ugly GTK1 fonts? Check the window that has focus for an exemple: http://rghandour.tripod.com/Screenshot2.png
[03:33] <crimsun> defz: ok, now: pgrep sed
[03:33] <crimsun> defz: sorry, pgrep esd
[03:34] <learn25> hi
[03:34] <crimsun> hullo
[03:35] <Luakagon>  howdy
[03:35] <pfp> FR500: allows you to connect to a linux machine from a dumb, diskless X-terminal - http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/intro.html
[03:35] <learn25> anybody knows how to share wine to ordinary users?
[03:36] <FR500> pfp, thanks again
[03:36] <pfp> a screwdriver and a set of glasses helps :)
[03:36] <learn25> anybody knows how to share wine to ordinary users?
[03:36] <HrdwrBoB> just pour them a glass
[03:37] <learn25> lol
[03:37] <^thehatsrule^> learn25, take the bottle, and 2 glasses
[03:37] <^thehatsrule^> bah, too late ;p
[03:37] <FR500> pfp, would it work to connect to linux from other oss too?
[03:37] <learn25> lol. i mean wine that is used to run windows applications
[03:37] <HrdwrBoB> learn25: what do you mean
[03:37] <HrdwrBoB> wine can already be used by all users by default
[03:38] <learn25> how?
[03:38] <HrdwrBoB> just run 'wine whatever.exe'
[03:38] <vinux> hey all. I'm new to ubuntu. How do I install .deb pkgs that are on my hard drive?
[03:38] <mae> which gpg key do i need to add to make archive.ubuntu.com authenticated
[03:38] <HrdwrBoB> the same was any other user does it
[03:38] <learn25> ok
[03:38] <seth_k> vinux: sudo dpkg -i blahblah.deb
[03:38] <HrdwrBoB> vinux: dpkg -i file.deb
[03:38] <HrdwrBoB> what seth said
[03:38] <seth_k> lol
[03:38] <vinux> thanks seth_k and HrdwrBoB
[03:39] <learn25> in my case i need to be a super user to run winamp
[03:39] <learn25> i to issue the sudo comman
[03:39] <learn25> d
[03:39] <HrdwrBoB> learn25: run xmms
[03:39] <pfp> FR500: yeah, X is a standard protocol, so you can use vendor A's x-terminal (also called an X server, confusingly) to connect to a host running vendor B's X display manager
[03:39] <learn25> lol. i want windows application. i have autocad r14 running under wine.
[03:40] <learn25> but i have to be a super user
[03:40] <learn25> i want ordinary users to run autocad
[03:40] <HrdwrBoB> learn25: it should work fine
[03:40] <HrdwrBoB> what happens when you are not superuser
[03:40] <pfp> FR500: this place has some info too - diskless terminals are quite cool http://www.ltsp.org/
[03:40] <synd> is wine in the apt?
[03:41] <learn25> yah] 
[03:41] <HrdwrBoB> synd: tes
[03:41] <HrdwrBoB> yes
[03:41] <learn25> i installed wine
[03:41] <crimsun> defz: ?
[03:41] <learn25> apt-get install wine
[03:41] <synd> HrdwrBoB: and its as easy as running term and doing 'wine program.exe' ?
[03:42] <learn25> and you can run some of the windows applications like mediaplayer 7, autocad, winamp, chess progarms like Arena
[03:42] <learn25> yeah
[03:42] <synd> why run winamp when theres xmms : )
[03:42] <Spaam> i'm curious... i set up firestarter (the firewall) and apparently my puter is going wild trying to connect to all different hosts on all different ports... like about 20 per minute
[03:42] <synd> i just need to run itunes
[03:42] <dennis> synd...why run xmms when there is rythmbox and amarok
[03:43] <Spaam> ok make that 100 per minute now
[03:43] <dennis> xmms is really outdated....
[03:43] <learn25> anybody tried to run counter-strike under wine?
[03:43] <dennis> Nope
[03:43] <HrdwrBoB> synd: possibly depends how well the particular app works
[03:43] <synd> dennis: bleh i prefer xmms
[03:43] <Echo_Mage> Xmms ROCKS!!!
[03:43] <dennis> I'm going to run wow tonight though
[03:43] <squirrelkiller> how do I sync audio and video in DVD playback gxine
[03:43] <learn25> winamp roars ;-)
[03:43] <learn25> it has a crossfade plugin
[03:43] <HrdwrBoB> learn25: so does xmms
[03:44] <learn25> its like listening to an FM station
[03:44] <defz> crimsun, you still around?
[03:44] <learn25> really?
[03:44] <vinux> hey all i'm trying to install mplayer through apt-get. It says --- > Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libg/libgii/libgii0_0.8.5-2_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[03:44] <HrdwrBoB> yes
[03:44] <learn25> how?
[03:44] <defz> vinux: you need to go into /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:44] <learn25> how to configure xmms to crossfade?
[03:44] <defz> and all the entries with us.archives.ubuntu.com
[03:44] <synd> vinux: take out the us.
[03:44] <defz> take out the us. :)
[03:44] <vinux> k
[03:44] <vinux> :)
[03:44] <HrdwrBoB> xmms-crossfade - XMMS Plugin for Crossfading / Continuous Output
[03:44] <defz> then sudo apt-get update
[03:44] <HrdwrBoB> sudo apt-get install xmms-crossfade
[03:44] <defz> and then try getting mplayer
[03:44] <crimsun> defz: yes, did you answer my questions?
[03:45] <learn25> thanks
[03:45] <defz> sorry, i rebooted after following the ubuntuguides directions
[03:45] <defz> still doesn't work
[03:45] <eyequeue> is there a channel operator available?
[03:45] <defz> pgrep esd
[03:45] <defz> geh
[03:45] <synd> eyequeue: why?
[03:45] <defz> pgred esd gives me nothing
[03:46] <eyequeue> synd:  a /topic item
[03:46] <defz> prep even
[03:46] <synd> eyequeue: Amaranth is an op
[03:46] <crimsun> defz: good.
[03:46] <crimsun> defz: now try that aplay command again
[03:46] <seth_k> I don't believe the reports of US archive being good
[03:46] <seth_k> I'm waiting it out a bit more
[03:46] <crimsun> eyequeue: yes, why?
[03:46] <synd> eyequeue: he just joined so he should be there
[03:46] <learn25> anybody how to create an icon to launch wine applications without going to the terminal?
[03:46] <crimsun> what topic adjustment, eyequeue?
[03:46] <vinux> you guys rock! Thanks so much!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:46] <learn25> anybody knows how to create an icon to launch wine applications without going to the terminal?
[03:46] <eyequeue> crimsun:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41265?referrerid=7995 ... us.archive has been working well for hours
[03:46] <defz> slightly different output now
[03:47] <defz> no sound still
[03:47] <synd> vinux: good job
[03:47] <defz> noname@ubuntu:~$ aplay -Dplughw:0,0 /usr/share/sounds/login.wav
[03:47] <defz> Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/login.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo
[03:47] <defz> noname@ubuntu:~$
[03:47] <eyequeue> synd:  thanks :)
[03:47] <seth_k> eyequeue, about 30 seconds before you joined the channel
[03:47] <seth_k> eyequeue, somebody was still having md5sum problems
[03:47] <Spaam> HELP: why is my linux box trying to connect to different hosts on differen ports at better than one a second?  i've got firestarter so most of these are being blocked, but this is still not good.  how do i find out which process(es) are doing this?
[03:47] <eyequeue> seth_k:  they'll need to sudo apt-get update
[03:47] <Amaranth> hi
[03:47] <Amaranth> on a windows machine that sucks and is dying
[03:47] <xero> learn25: in gnome, rt click on the desktop and select Create Launcher
[03:47] <JohnnyQuest> i keep getting MD5suem mismatch when installing qt3
[03:47] <defz> but, no sound that i can hear
[03:47] <JohnnyQuest> can anyone help?
[03:48] <synd> Amaranth: ?
[03:48] <eyequeue> JohnnyQuest:  sudo apt-get update, then run the command you used to install again
[03:48] <JohnnyQuest> i tired taht
[03:48] <Echo_Mage> hey synd
[03:48] <eyequeue> JohnnyQuest:  what mirror are you using?
[03:48] <Amaranth> whoa
[03:48] <Amaranth> log
[03:48] <Amaranth> err, lag
[03:48] <JohnnyQuest> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libj/libjpeg6b/libjpeg62-dev_6b-9_i386.deb
[03:48] <TokenBad> well I will just have to find another way to have people send me files..cause me and setting up ftp on ubuntu just don't mix
[03:49] <JohnnyQuest> thats the link to the file that its havint trouble iwth
[03:49] <JohnnyQuest> or one of them
[03:49] <Echo_Mage> Think I found the problem, CD-ROM drive may be bad too
[03:49] <synd> Echo_Mage: yo
[03:49] <synd> Echo_Mage: oh really
[03:49] <crimsun> defz: great, so it completes, which means esd was holding /dev/dsp (expected), and aplay was blocking on accessing /dev/dsp
[03:49] <Spaam> does anyone have any ideas?
[03:49] <Amaranth> this computer sucks
[03:49] <synd> Amaranth: what is it?
[03:49] <eyequeue> JohnnyQuest:  the update command should fix the md5sum mismatch error for the repository itself (Packages.gz)
[03:49] <Echo_Mage> Yeah it started vibrating really bad and now it reads very funny, almost doesn't I have a good one I can swap it with
[03:49] <JohnnyQuest> it didnt work..
[03:50] <JohnnyQuest> i ran that update command..
[03:50] <Amaranth> 800Mhz Athlon with 512MB RAM running winxp on a 28.8k connection
[03:50] <defz> ok
[03:50] <Amaranth> yeah, really sad
[03:50] <synd> Amaranth: :/ why on a 28.8?
[03:50] <Echo_Mage> My gramps Ath 650 runs fine on XP you just gotta know how to tweak it
[03:50] <Amaranth> because that's all the crappy phone line can handle
[03:50] <synd> Amaranth: dontcha got high speed?
[03:51] <TokenBad> can someone walk me through setting up ftp server on ubuntu...I have tried vsftp, glftpd and pureftp
[03:51] <Echo_Mage> Or are you talking about the internet conn?
[03:51] <Amaranth> synd: I'm not at home.
[03:51] <TokenBad> and can't seem to get any to work
[03:51] <eyequeue> JohnnyQuest:  try that, then sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/libjpeg62-dev_6b-9_i386.deb, then sudo apt-get install libjpeg62-dev
[03:51] <synd> Amaranth: ah.
[03:51] <Amaranth> synd: Won't be for a week.
[03:51] <synd> Amaranth: ouch. so youre stuck with 28.8..?
[03:51] <Echo_Mage> Ouch
[03:51] <Amaranth> yep
[03:51] <synd> ;/
[03:51] <eyequeue> JohnnyQuest:  just in case you have a bad deb d/l'd from earlier
[03:51] <Echo_Mage> Amaranth > Makes me cringe I can't live without my 5 megs
[03:51] <Spaam> anyone?
[03:52] <vinux> wow there are alot of people here! Didn't know Ubuntu was this big
[03:52] <defz> aplay blocking on accessing /dev/dsp doesn't really mean much to me :(
[03:52] <TokenBad> I wish fios was here
[03:52] <TokenBad> 15mbit down/2mbit up
[03:52] <JohnnyQuest> cannot remove, no such file or directory
[03:52] <synd> vinux: ubuntu is the fastest growing community : )
[03:52] <eyequeue> vinux:  some are idle, but of course many ubuntu users aren't on irc :)  welcome
[03:52] <crimsun> defz: that's ok. Next step, paste the output from amixer onto pastebin.com
[03:52] <xero> tokenBad: i use wu-ftpd
[03:52] <xero> it works fine
[03:52] <TokenBad> xero was it easy to set up?
[03:52] <xero> TokenBad: i had no problem doing it... so i guess its easy
[03:53] <JohnnyQuest> any suggestions eyequeue?
[03:53] <xMaximex> How can i change the command executed by hotkeys when i press a specific key ?
[03:53] <vinux> eyequeue, synd woot well i'm happy to be part of such a fine community
[03:53] <Echo_Mage> SYND > Gonna swap that CD and see if that fixxes it, Be back in a min or two
[03:53] <eyequeue> JohnnyQuest:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libjpeg62-dev
[03:53] <xero> TokenBad: i dont really remember though :-P
[03:53] <synd> vinux: best one out there : )
[03:53] <xMaximex> when i press on Next Song it open xmms --fwd but i use b-m-p
[03:53] <synd> Echo_Mage: good deal
[03:53] <vinux> synd, woot! I feel at home
[03:53] <synd> vinux: check out distrowatch.com and see whats #1
[03:54] <eyequeue> JohnnyQuest:  i have one more rm command for you if that doesn't fix it
[03:54] <defz> crimsun: amixer output pasted to http://pastebin.ca/14206
[03:54] <Echo_Mage> SYND > the CD is probably good because all my other distros worked when burned with K3B so It must be the CD rive in the old Clunker\
[03:54] <FR500> hmm, the gnome theme manager doesnt load for me
[03:54] <synd> Echo_Mage: true
[03:54] <vinux> synd, ok. btw my mplayer works great now! Man it was so easy to install thanks to the ubuntu guide. I just needed to fix my server list
[03:54] <FR500> any ideas on why?
[03:55] <Echo_Mage> SYND > Besides I can't have WIN ME running on that thing, I can't stand to have ME in the same room with me
[03:55] <xero> vinux: did you have problems w/ getting an error whne u ran mplayer? b/c i do now
[03:55] <synd> vinux: ubuntuguide.org is great. so is the ubuntu wiki
[03:56] <synd> Echo_Mage: winme.. id rather not use a computer than have to use that
[03:56] <JohnnyQuest> still getting the problem
[03:56] <Echo_Mage> SYND > I hear ya
[03:56] <JohnnyQuest> md5sum mismatch still
[03:57] <TokenBad> woah..reading the info on wu-ftpd for setting up accounts
[03:57] <TokenBad> and man..confused me
[03:57] <Echo_Mage> ME runs so slow on these older machines, makes me cringe
[03:57] <xero> TokenBad: just iinstall it :-P
[03:57] <eyequeue> crimsun:  oddity here.  on breezy, multimedia systems selector, changing output from esd to asla caused things to work again, but for input, every option says it can't construct a test pipeline.  known issue?
[03:58] <eyequeue> JohnnyQuest:  sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/libjpeg62*
[03:58] <eyequeue> JohnnyQuest: then sudo apt-get install libjpeg62-dev
[03:58] <crimsun> eyequeue: yes
[03:58] <eyequeue> crimsun:  okay, no prob then
[03:59] <eyequeue> crimsun:  you saved me beating on it for an hour :)  btw, will alsa be the better option from here forward? (polypaudio too, if that matters)
[03:59] <Mez> crimsun, apparently the US mirros is still b0rked
[03:59] <JohnnyQuest> same errors still
[03:59] <eyequeue> Mez:  very strange that it's been working perfectly for me for hours in that case
[04:00] <xero> JohnnyQuest: are you getting an MD5sum error when u run apt-get update too?
[04:00] <Mez> lmoretti exact error "Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/pango1.0/libpango1.0-0_1.8.1-0ubuntu2_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch"
[04:00] <JohnnyQuest> ya
[04:00] <eyequeue> JohnnyQuest:  are you comfortable editing a text file?
[04:00] <JohnnyQuest> im brand new to linux...
[04:00] <Mez> (from #kubuntu)
[04:00] <xero> shanty... i just realized i did too
[04:00] <dennis> gedit /file/
[04:00] <JohnnyQuest> but, depending on the modification, i could do it
[04:00] <xero> JohnnyQuest: what is from the nerim site?
[04:00] <eyequeue> JohnnyQuest:  well, you'll change all occurences of us.archive to just archive
[04:00] <JohnnyQuest> nerim?
[04:01] <JohnnyQuest> ok
[04:01] <JohnnyQuest> where is the file?
[04:01] <JohnnyQuest> that i change?
[04:01] <eyequeue> JohnnyQuest: but i can construct a single commandline to do it, if you need one
[04:01] <defz> gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:01] <Mez> see people are still saying to chaneg ti from us.archive to archive
[04:01] <JohnnyQuest> that woudl be nice eyequeue, ic you dont mind
[04:01] <eyequeue> JohnnyQuest:  /etc/apt/sources.list (you'll need sudo)
[04:01] <defz> Mez: its still a problem apparently, and it fixes it :/
[04:01] <synd> ah better
[04:01] <eruin> why just archive?
[04:01] <eruin> why not another mirror?
[04:02] <defz> us.archives is broken
[04:02] <synd> !synd
[04:02] <ubotu> it has been said that synd is a badass
[04:02] <bhilton> How do I start the gDesklets daemon at bootup?
[04:02] <Mez> defz: yeah by not using the us mirror
[04:02] <Mez> but according to the topic
[04:02] <Mez> the us mirror is fixed
[04:02] <Th4tBa5t4rd> okay dumb question. websites with embedded .wmv  clips. is there a way to set it up so i can see them or should i just forget about it?
[04:02] <defz> yeah, they changed the topic a little too quick i thin
[04:02] <eyequeue> JohnnyQuest:  sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:02] <defz> Th4tBa5t4rd: i think you can setup totem-mozilla or something
[04:02] <JohnnyQuest> and that does it all?
[04:03] <defz> lemme look
[04:03] <xero> defz: or mozilla-vlc :-)
[04:03] <eyequeue> JohnnyQuest:  that will make the changes to the file, then you will do this:
[04:03] <eyequeue> JohnnyQuest:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libjpeg62-dev
[04:03] <crimsun> are people still having problems with us.archive?
[04:03] <JohnnyQuest> i am
[04:03] <Th4tBa5t4rd> i was hoping the answer was forget about it... now i will end up scouring for info and try and make it work
[04:03] <seth_k> crimsun: we've got one with problems in #kubuntu too
[04:03] <seth_k> crimsun: so it's not just him
[04:03] <Th4tBa5t4rd> i am not having any issues with .us at the moment
[04:03] <eyequeue> crimsun:  apparently so, yet it's perfect here.  i'd suggest redoing the /topic warning
[04:04] <defz> Th4tBa5t4rd: i saw it on ubuntuguide.org somewhere :)
[04:04] <defz> while trying to fix my problem
[04:04] <xero> i am having a problem w/ the nerim site
[04:04] <xero> i just noticed it today....idk if it has been a problem before
[04:04] <Amaranth> xero: marillat is meant for debian and has been known to break ubuntu systems
[04:05] <defz> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#mplayer
[04:05] <defz> there
[04:05] <eyequeue> xero:  nreim is a known problem
[04:05] <eyequeue> xero:  nerim
[04:05] <defz> probably some other ones if you dont like mplayer
[04:05] <bob2> hah
[04:05] <bhilton> How do I start the gDesklets daemon at bootup?
[04:05] <crimsun> uh
[04:05] <xero> Amaranth: eesh.... but why did the forums tellme to use it then if its gonna break stuff?
[04:06] <Amaranth> xero: the forums aren't official in any way, that's just what some user thought would be good
[04:06] <crimsun> fatfingered
[04:06] <Luakagon> anarchy!
[04:06] <Luakagon> :)
[04:06] <xero> ahh ic
[04:06] <Mez> ;)
[04:06] <xero> so youguys dont use the nerim site @ all?1
[04:06] <bob2> no
[04:06] <bob2> if you use it, things will break
[04:06] <Luakagon> could someone help me with my culture issues?  my issues caused by an inability to copy cd music to my hard drive?
[04:06] <Zzzippo> hi All, Im a newb w/ Linux.  I just got Ubuntu running on my laptop and I think its the flavor for me! ;) however I am having problems getting the ethernet and wireless cards working,  The wired card(Linksys NP100 pcmcia) works fine w/ Mandrake 9.1, Mandrake 10.2 does not see it.  Ubuntu Does not see it either.  I want to go w/ Ubuntu can anyone help me get it working?
[04:06] <bob2> ie mplayer will be uninstallable
[04:06] <xero> shanty
[04:06] <eyequeue> sorry, but i really have had hours of constant us.a.u.c success here, heavy usage (though maybe the breezy repo is sync'ed and not the warty repo yet?)
[04:07] <xero> bob2 i have mplayer issues
[04:07] <bob2> shockingly
[04:07] <bob2> so, don't use marillat's sourcs
[04:07] <xero> :-P
[04:07] <abarbaccia> if im getting a md5sum mismatch when i go to install something - anyway to override the md5check and just install
[04:07] <Luakagon> hey Zzzippo you probably need to get ndiswrapper or something
[04:07] <xero> ok so should i get rid of those nerim sites and try to reinstall mplayer?1
[04:07] <crimsun> you really don't want to override that warning, abarbaccia
[04:07] <bob2> abarbaccia: no, you read the channel topic
[04:07] <eyequeue> xero:  i rather strongly would recommend the "extras" repository from backports over the nerim repository, if you feel you must
[04:07] <Luakagon> thats what I have to get my wireless card working
[04:07] <defz> backports has pretty much everything marillat has anyways
[04:07] <flodine> a guys i just put a amd 3000+ chip now i have to turn apic off to boot is this good or bad
[04:07] <bob2> abarbaccia: overriding the warning = trying to get dpkg to install random binary junk
[04:07] <Zzzippo> Luak is ndiswrapper only for wifi cards?
[04:07] <abarbaccia> bob2, wow - lol thanks
[04:08] <Zzzippo> err isn't it
[04:08] <xero> eyequeue: how do i do the extras rep?
[04:08] <bob2> flodine: it means your motherboard or the kernel is byggy
[04:08] <eyequeue> xero:  the former is customized to work with ubuntu hoary, the latter is customized to work with debian sarge etch or sid
[04:08] <squirrelkiller> is transparency working in ubuntu?
[04:08] <Luakagon> Zzzippo, I have no idea what I'm talking about.
[04:08] <flodine> bob2 do i need to redo ubuntu
[04:08] <bob2> flodine: no...
[04:09] <bob2> Luakagon: what driver does it use?
[04:09] <Echo_Mage> SYND > You there?
[04:09] <eyequeue> xero:  here's an example line to add to /etc/apt/sources.list:  deb http://acm.cs.umn.edu/ubp hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[04:09] <synd> Echo_Mage: yes
[04:09] <Zzzippo> hehe np ive goggled my eyes out...ndisswrapper comes on the iso i can install it from there
[04:09] <Echo_Mage> The CD-ROM drive was the prob
[04:09] <xero> eyequeue: so get rid of the nerim sites and add that one?
[04:09] <Echo_Mage> synd: the cd is installing fine now
[04:09] <Zzzippo> but i think it is for wifi cards which i have...but trying to get the regular wired card working first
[04:10] <synd> Echo_Mage: good deal
[04:10] <crimsun> defz: have you tried using envy24control as opposed to alsamixer?
[04:10] <Zzzippo> it works fine under mandrake 9.1...I didnt even have to configure it
[04:10] <eyequeue> xero:  go to the http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/ site with firefox os similar and choose the best mirror for your location of course.  yes, just comment the other out if you like, but then sudo apt-get update
[04:10] <Luakagon> bob2, are you talking about my problems or Zzzippos?
[04:10] <Echo_Mage> The setup is running real fast now
[04:10] <bob2> bah
[04:10] <bob2> Zzzippo: what chipset does it use?
[04:10] <defz> crimsun: no i haven't, im not sure how to install it
[04:10] <defz> i dont see a package
[04:11] <Zzzippo> but see mandrake 9.1 doesn't support the ndisswrapper i need to get the wireless card going
[04:11] <bob2> please don't use backports if you don't understand what they are
[04:11] <ivoks> bob2: do you ever sleep? :)
[04:11] <crimsun> defz: not packaged in hoary. ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/tools/alsa-tools-1.0.9.tar.bz2
[04:11] <bob2> ivoks: just woke up
[04:11] <Zzzippo> bob2 i am not sure
[04:11] <muttDC> hello, i have a question... how much fps is suppose to get a Radeon 9600XT
[04:11] <ecarroll> Will i have any problems if i remove everything returned from deborphan?
[04:11] <bob2> muttDC: depends on the game
[04:11] <muttDC> hello, i have a question... how much fps is suppose to get a Radeon 9600XT  in glxgears? :p
[04:11] <eyequeue> ecarroll:  possibly, though not likely
[04:11] <bob2> muttDC: and glxgears is nota useful benchmark
[04:11] <defz> crimsun: that would explain a few things :)
[04:11] <muttDC> ooh, ok
[04:11] <ivoks> ecarroll: well, be careful
[04:11] <bob2> ecarroll: yes
[04:12] <Zzzippo> it is a linksysfast ethernet 10/100 pcmcia card model NP100
[04:12] <ghostless> Where can I find w32codecs to download?
[04:12] <|QuaD-_> bob2: is there a fix to get X on breezy working?
[04:12] <eyequeue> ecarroll:  have you installed any non-ubuntu packages, or any packages that were NOT from a .deb?
[04:12] <muttDC> bob2, do yo know where can i find a guide to install quake2?? :$
[04:12] <bob2> |QuaD-_: it should only need a single symlink
[04:12] <Echo_Mage> synd: gonna get the OS on there and see how it runs, my big issue is how many different types of Install packages can it handle, also how does it hand USB and card readers
[04:12] <|QuaD-_> bob2: what should i link?
[04:12] <ecarroll> eyequeue: nothing that would have non-deb dependencies
[04:12] <bob2> muttDC: quake2 is in ubuntu already
[04:12] <Zzzippo> it is listed as supported on the hardware list at the ubuntu site
[04:12] <bob2> |QuaD-_: don't remember
[04:12] <|QuaD-_> bob2: ok
[04:12] <ecarroll> eyequeue: err nothing that would have deb dependencies
[04:12] <synd> Echo_Mage: i use a san disk 8-1 card reader and it mounts automatically and runs fine
[04:12] <muttDC> thanks a lot bob2 ;)
[04:12] <ivoks> |QuaD-_: check out subject about breezy
[04:13] <Echo_Mage> What about an internal 7in1
[04:13] <ecarroll> I'm using breezy works excellent for me
[04:13] <Zzzippo> ello?
[04:13] <eyequeue> ecarroll:  if so, you'll need to manually ensure you don't delete any of their dependencies (since the dpkg database and therefore deborphan won't know about them)
[04:13] <|QuaD-_> ivoks: haha... i have been using it since it came out
[04:13] <|QuaD-_> hoary also
[04:13] <synd> Echo_Mage: dunno. how is connected? usb?
[04:13] <ecarroll> rought upgrade, and one broken package in the repository failing md5 sum, everything else is golden
[04:13] <eyequeue> ecarroll:  do you at least understand the principle there?
[04:13] <bob2> ecarroll: md5sum errors = /topic
[04:13] <Echo_Mage> synd: Not sure its detected as SDA1 on my Mepis system
[04:13] <bob2> Zzzippo: what does google say about it?
[04:14] <ecarroll> eyequeue: yes
[04:14] <ghostless> Where can I find w32codecs to download??
[04:14] <Zzzippo> say about what?
[04:14] <ivoks> bob2: we should change subject to "breezy is not supported here"
[04:14] <eyequeue> ecarroll:  personally i use deborphan as a suggestion, then dpkg --purge foo baz baz manually
[04:14] <synd> ghostless: ubuntuguide.org
[04:14] <xero> eyequeue: the one you listed did not work
[04:14] <bob2> Zzzippo: about the card, of course
[04:14] <ecarroll> eyequeue: Long time debian user, no packages i have installed would require dependieces currently being satisified by debs
[04:14] <ghostless> synd: Ok, thanks you kind sir
[04:14] <eyequeue> xero:  odd.  what was the error message?
[04:14] <synd> ghostless: yu
[04:14] <synd> p
[04:15] <xero> i got a 404 Not Found
[04:15] <eyequeue> ecarroll:  cool, you've got the background to know then, if you'd be breaking anything :)
[04:15] <ecarroll> eyequeue: i just send deborphan right to dpkg most of the packages sound useless ill back up the list if i need it again ill just redownload it
[04:15] <xero> ... let me double check my spelling...
[04:15] <eyequeue> ecarroll:  exactly :)
[04:15] <ecarroll> err right to apt-get --purge remove
[04:15] <Zzzippo> umm lets see....
[04:15] <bob2> Zzzippo: particularily wrt to ubuntu and linux
[04:15] <eyequeue> ecarroll:  they're almost synonyms
[04:15] <Echo_Mage> This is gonna be distro number 6 for me
[04:16] <bob2> people should just start on ubuntu or debian and save a ton of time
[04:16] <flodine> bob2 what do i do to fix my apic problem
[04:16] <xero> eyequeue: it was an sp error sorry and thanks
[04:16] <eyequeue> Echo_Mage:  simultaneous or consecutive?
[04:16] <bob2> flodine: I don't know, I don't see where you explained your problem
[04:16] <eyequeue> xero:  ah, that happens more here than there i'm sure, heh.  no prob
[04:16] <Zzzippo> oh....well yeah cause a simple google on it gives me mostly prices and driver d/l links
[04:17] <flodine> bob2 if i turn apic off it boot
[04:17] <bob2> flodine: so, turn it off
[04:17] <defz> crimsun: im having a slight problem compiling it
[04:17] <bob2> Zzzippo: er...when you add ubuntu?
[04:17] <flodine> bob2 is that ok
[04:17] <ghostless> synd: Well...I did the apt-get they said but it couldnt find the package...Know of another way?
[04:17] <defz> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[04:17] <Echo_Mage> eyequeue: consecutive RED HAT EWS 3, Lycoris Desktop LX, Xandros, Symphony, and Mepis
[04:17] <bob2> defz: please read the FAQ
[04:17] <Zzzippo> nothing when i add unbuntu
[04:17] <synd> ghostless:  you have to do each step
[04:17] <bob2> defz: hint: install build-essential
[04:17] <crimsun> defz: you need build-essential and libasound2-dev
[04:17] <synd> ghostless: ie you have to get the right repositories
[04:17] <bob2> flodine: it just means your motherboard or the kernel sucks
[04:18] <flodine> bob2 dang your very busy
[04:18] <Zzzippo> unbuntu supported hardware page lists it as working
[04:18] <JohnnyQuest> anyone know what this error is? 'cannot find -ldvdnav
[04:18] <ghostless> synd: Alright, I will look again...Thanks.
[04:18] <defz> which FAQ am i supposed to be reading for envy24control?
[04:18] <defz> i dont see anything about build-essential
[04:18] <bob2> JohnnyQuest: it means you don't have libdvdnav installed
[04:18] <Zzzippo> and it works fine with mandrake
[04:18] <synd> ghostless: its kinda a long process, but just follow the steps
[04:18] <flodine> bob2 all i did was take a 2600amd out and put a 3000in
[04:18] <eyequeue> Echo_Mage:  you've had a nice variety of different philosophies there, all except perhaps a slackware or lfs/gentoo :)
[04:18] <bob2> Zzzippo: try asking on the user list, I guess
[04:18] <Zzzippo> i think i need to load a module fore it or probe for it
[04:18] <Zzzippo> but dont know how
[04:19] <flodine> and my stuff sucks
[04:19] <cb122> hello all
[04:19] <Zzzippo> ok thx anyways
[04:19] <flodine> bob2 i guess i need a 64 bit chip then
[04:19] <Echo_Mage> eyequeue: Yeah, the prob is I'm a noob RH scared me, Lycoris frightened me, Xandros was fun so was Mepis, Symphony is still in alpha testing
[04:19] <bob2> flodine: wtf
[04:20] <Zzzippo> im gonna give up and go fly some aces high2 soon as fedora finishes d/ling
[04:20] <Echo_Mage> eyequeue: Slackware and Gentoo are probably too advanced for me
[04:20] <eyequeue> Echo_Mage:  i hope (and expect) you'll enjoy ubuntu, it's rather user-friendly
[04:20] <flodine> bob2 relaxxxx
[04:20] <bob2> flodine: oh, please stop it
[04:20] <eyequeue> Echo_Mage:  this channel, and also the various sites listed in the /topic are great resources
[04:20] <flodine> bob2 ok
[04:21] <ghostless> synd: alrighty
[04:21] <vinux> Hey all ubuntu now is my favorite. It even beats out slackware :)
[04:21] <Echo_Mage> eyequeue:  so far Mepis has been the best so far, software install is #1 priority on my list, hardware compatibilty is a close second
[04:21] <defz> ok, i run a ./configure for envy24control and thats fine
[04:21] <defz> then i do 'make'
[04:21] <defz> and I get a nice Error 1
[04:21] <xero> echo_Mage: as recent super-newbie i bounced around trying to find the right distro... everything i tried had problems (including ubuntu) but i found this to be the best of everything
[04:22] <Echo_Mage> xero:  if Ubuntu proves to be as good as I hope it is, It will replace Mepis
[04:22] <bob2> defz: error one is not the actual error
[04:22] <cb122> Echo_Mage,  I am a terminal newbie.  Never satisfied with anything but yet I have had ubuntu installed the longest.
[04:22] <bob2> defz: paste the dozen lines before that to #flood
[04:23] <cb122> the community is very nice as well
[04:23] <eyequeue> Echo_Mage:  i was frankly shocked at some of the hardware compatibility, but of course, yours may differ (file a bug though so it can be fixed)
[04:23] <cb122> not all elitists
[04:23] <xero> Echo_Mage: i dont mnow much of Mepis... is it a new distro or just a livecd?
[04:24] <synd> xero: a new distro
[04:24] <Echo_Mage> xero: apparently a new distro, linux.org doesn't even have it listed yet
[04:24] <defz> ive got way more error lines than that
[04:24] <defz> they all seem to be Gtk-related
[04:24] <synd> xero: distrowatch.com
[04:24] <synd> its like #3
[04:24] <Echo_Mage> xero: thats where I found it
[04:24] <eyequeue> mepis is another debian-based distro
[04:25] <xero> oh its debian-based as well hmm
[04:25] <JovenComunista> hello
[04:25] <xero> u cant go wrong w/ apt.. its second only to gentoo's portage
[04:25] <xero> and gl to anybody attempting the gentoo fight ugh
[04:25] <JovenComunista> what's the big difference between ubuntu and gentoo????
[04:26] <dakz> gentoo is way too hard for newbies
[04:26] <dakz> to install...
[04:26] <defz> gentoo is a linux distro for people that want to have complete control over how everything on their system is compiled, and they don't want a single file or line of code extra
[04:26] <xero> yeah gentoo is for the uber-users and even they complain nonstop about it
[04:26] <scott_> I just installed ubuntu and I have a crap load of problems
[04:26] <defz> scott_ if you were using gentoo, you could probably multiply that by 10
[04:26] <ivoks> gentoo is... wrong descision :)
[04:26] <synd> my favorite other than ubuntu is damn small
[04:27] <scott_> problem number one: I can't find my windows partition
[04:27] <xero> at least 10 haha trust me ive tried it as a newb
[04:27] <synd> ubuntu and damn small for me
[04:27] <crimsun> defz: need libgtk1.2-dev, too
[04:27] <sproingie>  would that be a decacrapload then?
[04:27] <xero> scott_: www.ubuntuguide.com that will help you with alot of the initial setup
[04:27] <ghostless> synd: It works! Dude you are great! Many thanks to you!
[04:27] <defz> heh, how did you figure that out?
[04:27] <scott_> I've been there.
[04:27] <caleb_> new hoary install.  Synaptic is reporting a lot of md5 mismatches.  is this a known issue?  stock repos.
[04:27] <synd> ghostless: no problem
[04:27] <ghostless> )
[04:27] <ghostless> =)
[04:27] <scott_> My windows partition isn't even in /dev
[04:27] <vinux> There was a problem with mplayer playing dvd guys. But dont' worry I downloaded totem-xine and now I can play dvds fine
[04:27] <eyequeue> scott_:  odds are that's an ntfs partition and needs to be mounted ... yes, what xero said
[04:27] <ecarroll> LFS is one step further than gento
[04:28] <ivoks> scott_: that's a joke of the year :)
[04:28] <xero> scott_: sudo fdisk -l
[04:28] <sproingie> caleb_: should definitely not happen.  what packages?
[04:28] <crimsun> defz: I knew. Sorry, should have made that explicit.
[04:28] <synd> vinux: totem-xine is great
[04:28] <scott_> I thought it would appear in /dev anyway
[04:28] <ivoks> caleb_: /topic?
[04:28] <vinux> synd, yea it looks really good
[04:28] <synd> vinux: is your DMA enabled?
[04:28] <xero> i have had numerious problems w/ mplayer on ubuntu
[04:28] <vinux> synd, yep
[04:28] <ivoks> caleb_: us repositorys are broken
[04:28] <ivoks> caleb_: use some others
[04:29] <caleb_> ivoks: thanks.
[04:29] <synd> vinux: good deal
[04:29] <defz> hot damn
[04:29] <defz> that was it
[04:29] <xero> scott_ well you might not know which one it is so just use the fdisk -l command to view all your partitions
[04:29] <defz> its compiling nicely (for now)
[04:29] <_kaz> Is there a problem with the ubuntu/kbuntu installer? It fails on BOTH at the same spot... after partitioning, during the unpacking(?) stage when it gets to coresomething...
[04:29] <sproingie> hm ... does hdparm actually do anything for SATA disks?
[04:29] <xero> _kaz: is ur cdrom drive good? and is your cd not scratched?
[04:29] <_kaz> it suggests that I record the CD over again at lower speeds.
[04:29] <scott_> How come I get a lot of XML parsing errors from firefox?
[04:30] <airmikey> any 1 running dualies
[04:30] <_kaz> xero: yes, tried 2 different distros (kubuntu and ubuntu) on 3 different discs... at 8x for 2 of them.
[04:30] <synd> _kaz: Echo_Mage was having the same type problem. his CD drive was the culprit
[04:30] <scott_> is there anyway to fix the xml parsing error guys?
[04:31] <sproingie> scott_: you sure it's well-formed xml?
[04:31] <Echo_Mage> ALL: Passed the CD part of Install on the Clunker
[04:31] <xero> _kaz: might be your cdrom drive then... ive found that when installing a distro it reall pushes ur cdrom drive.  i have found that an older cdrom drive that worked find under normal conditions didnt work when installing linux b/c theres soo much that its doing
[04:31] <_kaz> strange. Ok I guess I'll try a different CD drive tomorrow.
[04:31] <scott_> I look at my history in firefox and it says XML parsing error
[04:31] <_kaz> But yeah, the CDROM worked otherwise.
[04:31] <ivoks> scott_: you installed some broken extension
[04:31] <sproingie> scott_: that sounds ominous.  sounds like your install was mightily hosed
[04:31] <scott_> It came installed lol
[04:31] <_kaz> xero: sounds like poor programming. :P
[04:31] <xero> _kaz: i could be wrong... but if you have another one to test out then i would try that b/c from my personal experience that has been my problem
[04:32] <defz> crimsun: ok, got envy24control up... what now?
[04:32] <_kaz> if the installer is pushing a 16x CD-R drive so far to its limits that it can't be installed, then this is probably a programming problem with the installer somewhere.
[04:32] <sproingie> my favorite is having to manually delete the lock file.  yep, aunt tilly will sure manage that
[04:33] <_kaz> 16x CDR (maybe 24x CD) isn't THAT old :P
[04:33] <_kaz> especially for *nix.
[04:33] <xero> possibly i dont really know
[04:33] <ivoks> sproingie: he copied his .firefox from some other place, or installed broken extension
[04:33] <ivoks> sproingie: or .mozilla :)
[04:33] <defz> when i do aplay
[04:34] <scott_> Mounting the windows partition did not work
[04:34] <defz> it shows sound playing on PCM Out 1 and 2
[04:34] <defz> but the digital mixer is dead
[04:34] <scott_> also my sound blaster doesn't work
[04:35] <scott_> Is it possible for me to be able to change the resolution to 1280x1024?
[04:35] <sproingie> ivoks: ah.  well, technically that should work
[04:35] <Octane> is the openoffice.org2-common package openoffice 2.0 beta?
[04:35] <Echo_Mage> ALL: Do you have to be connected to the web to install Ubuntu?
[04:35] <crimsun> defz: use it to adjust the mixer elements. I don't use that software because I don't have that hardware.
[04:35] <crimsun> Echo_Mage: no
[04:35] <jalyst> woah this channels seriously busy, 1st time ubuntu user here, hi folks!
[04:35] <defz> ah ok
[04:35] <Echo_Mage> Okay I was wondering
[04:35] <xero> Octane: yeah i think openoffice2 is still in beta
[04:35] <crimsun> scott_: paste the output of amixer onto pastebin.com
[04:35] <defz> so you think from here, its a mixer problem specific to my card?
[04:36] <Octane> xero, youre right, but is that it?
[04:36] <defz> i just need to figure out the right settings?
[04:36] <Octane> i mean, is that hte beta vversipon
[04:36] <Echo_Mage> Open Office 2 is still in Beta
[04:36] <Octane> *verision
[04:36] <Octane> yes i know
[04:36] <crimsun> defz: it's not a "problem" - you just need to mute and/or unmute the appropriate elements.
[04:36] <xero> Octane: yes i think so
[04:36] <Octane> but is that a package of the beta version?
[04:36] <scott_> crimsun: what is amixer?
[04:36] <david> does ubuntu come with a firewall?
[04:36] <ivoks> sproingie: not allways
[04:36] <ivoks> david: :)
[04:36] <ivoks> david: every linux comes with firewall
[04:36] <fishie> are there any webcam programs for gnome
[04:36] <crimsun> scott_: a command. Open a Terminal, type amixer, and paste the output onto the pastebin.com web site.
[04:36] <abarbaccia> hey bob2 i need some help with installing a package - it says its broken, any advice on how to fix it
[04:37] <david> oh lol
[04:37] <ivoks> david: the questiong is... do you need firewall? this isn't windows :)
[04:37] <david> where can i go to cinfugre it
[04:37] <jalyst> hey, can anyone point me to a good up-to-date guide for getting FreeNX server running on hoary? I want to install the client on my XP (gaming) box so ill never be too far away from ubuntu :-)
[04:37] <xero> Octane: yes it is b/c the version number is 1.9.x which Openoffice is calling the beta for 2.0
[04:37] <scott_> crimsun: when I go to pastebin.com it says Query failure: Can't open file: 'pastebin.MYI'. (errno: 145)
[04:37] <scott_> select pid,poster,unix_timestamp()-unix_timestamp(posted) as age, date_format(posted, '%a %D %b %H:%i') as postdate from pastebin where domain='' order by posted desc, pid desc limit 10
[04:37] <Octane> well it doesnt work, there is no openoffice.org2-core
[04:37] <ivoks> david: netfilter (linux firewall) isn't point and click software
[04:37] <xero> Octane: i installed openoffice.org2 and that has worked fine
[04:38] <Octane> ya but -core
[04:38] <Echo_Mage> ivoks> no matter what OS you run you should have a firewall, no one is safe nowadays
[04:38] <xero> i dont know
[04:38] <mike_douglas> I'm getting md5sum mismatches on the server (both ca and us mirrors), would this be on my end or yours?
[04:38] <ivoks> david: you can try to configure netfilter with firestarter
[04:38] <Octane> is missing
[04:38] <Davey> my windows box is perfectly virus, spam and spyware protected...
[04:38] <ivoks> Echo_Mage: firewalls on local computers are useless
[04:39] <Davey> course, it has no CD/Floppy drives, no USB ports and no internet connection :)
[04:39] <david> ivoks: whats firestarter (im a noob)
[04:39] <Echo_Mage> On local machines yes
[04:39] <xero> Octane: its missing in synaptic? are your repositories up to date?
[04:39] <Octane> yes they are
[04:39] <Octane> and yes its missing
[04:39] <Octane> Package openoffice.org2-core is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:39] <ivoks> david: firestarter is graphical tool that will help you set up netfilter (linux firewall)
[04:39] <jalyst> did anyone get that query of mine?
[04:39] <scott_> crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/14211
[04:39] <Octane> firestarter is very good
[04:39] <Octane> highly recommended
[04:39] <david> ivoks: how do i get to it
[04:39] <Echo_Mage> ivoks> on a good server a linux OS with a firewall is like fort know to a hacker
[04:40] <ivoks> david: netfilter is very very powerfull firewall, there is NO gui that will show you all it can do
[04:40] <Echo_Mage> ivoks: 8knox I mean
[04:40] <ivoks> david: sudo apt-get install firestarter
[04:40] <xero> Octane: are your repositorires set up correctly?
[04:40] <Octane> yes they are sir.
[04:40] <vinux> hey does anyone know of the name of the gnome cdrw software?
[04:40] <xero> hmmmm
[04:40] <Octane> universe hoary security
[04:40] <Octane> i have those
[04:40] <david> thanks ivoks
[04:40] <ivoks> Echo_Mage: lol, so little you know :)
[04:40] <Octane> nothign extas
[04:40] <scott_> all: my soundcard isn't working the output of amixer is listed here:http://pastebin.ca/14211
[04:41] <Echo_Mage> All I know is Nux rocks
[04:41] <Madpilot> vinux: gnomebaker?
[04:41] <ivoks> Echo_Mage: i takes one syn flood to take you down
[04:41] <vinux> Madpilot, hmm let me check
[04:41] <david> nice to know ivoks ;)
[04:41] <Echo_Mage> ivoks: never said I knew it all
[04:41] <jalyst> can anyone point me to a good up-to-date guide for getting FreeNX server running on hoary?
[04:42] <Echo_Mage> ivoks: only know what I need to know and how to find out what I want to know
[04:42] <Gskillet> Has anyone here used FakeAP before?
[04:42] <ivoks> there is no rock solid solution for anything
[04:42] <xero> Octane: i have it working on mine... i dont know which repository it gets it form... if i were to guess it would be the backports one.  my repositories are setup like the sources.list file from www.ubuntuguide.com but w/out the nerim one (i guess its broken)
[04:42] <bob2> abarbaccia: define "broken"
[04:42] <xero> so if you dont have it setup like those repositories then i would do that if i were you... the default ubuntu ones are iffy at best from what ive seen
[04:42] <cb122> nerim died thursday nite as far as I could tell
[04:42] <ivoks> xero: leave out backports too
[04:43] <bob2> abarbaccia: also, if it's from outside ubuntu, don't even try
[04:43] <xero> ivoks: why the backports? they seem good and working for me
[04:43] <ivoks> xero: they aren't so good...
[04:43] <xero> ivoks: and from what i know they have some stuff that u can only get form there
[04:43] <ivoks> xero: they update libs
[04:44] <ivoks> xero: that's something backporting shouldn't do
[04:44] <xero> oh
[04:44] <ivoks> that breaks other apps
[04:44] <xero> well what do you use instead then? jeesh
[04:44] <xero> :-P
[04:44] <ivoks> nothing
[04:44] <xero> well how would i get software from there that i need to use then?
[04:45] <bob2> for example?
[04:45] <Echo_Mage> Setup takes ages on this clunker it seems
[04:45] <xero> uh... cant remember for sure but i think vlc is from there... something w/ dvd::rip i think
[04:46] <scott_> all: I need help mounting my windows partition, it is listed as sda1
[04:46] <xero> ok no problem
[04:46] <xero> scott_ : http://ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs
[04:47] <xero> and instead  of hda1 use the sda1
[04:47] <crimsun> scott_: ok, looking
[04:47] <xero> if thats the right partition
[04:47] <scott_> xero: I tried that already, with no avail
[04:47] <scott_> crimsun: thanks for your help
[04:48] <crimsun> scott_: which model sblive? I need the lspci -v line
[04:48] <xero> scott_: are you sure it is sda1? is there another sda listed when u fdisk -l ?
[04:49] <Octane> why should we add backports to the list
[04:49] <xero> Octane: from what iknow, they have some software that u cant get w/out them however ivoks said they update things that they shouldnot update
[04:49] <scott_> xero:http://pastebin.ca/14213
[04:49] <scott_> xero: thats my fdisk
[04:50] <scott_> crimsun:audigy 2 zs
[04:50] <crimsun> scott_: amixer sset 'Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack' on
[04:50] <david> does bittorrent come with ubuntu??
[04:50] <abbot45> ok, ive got a partitioning question.  i have 2 seperate hard drives (10 & 40).  when i install ubuntu it wont let me have my home directory shared on both drives, so unless i use all 10 gigs of the other drive for OS stuff a bunch of space is going to waste.  How can i fix this?
[04:51] <xero> scott_: it looks like ur windows partition is in fact sdb1
[04:51] <xero> because it says NTFS under the partition type
[04:51] <scott_> xero,crimsun: thanks for your guys help I have to go now I will try your solutions and get back to you
[04:51] <xero> no prob
[04:51] <Gskillet> Has anyone here used FakeAP before?
[04:52] <abbot45> can i not assign a home directory and just have both drives as root directory?
[04:52] <bob2> abbot45: what does "shared on both drives" mean?
[04:52] <xero> no what is it?
[04:52] <bob2> abbot45: you're trying to do mirroring?
[04:52] <abbot45> i dont know what that is.
[04:52] <abbot45> haha
[04:52] <jbroome> Gskillet: good to see you're still asking that.
[04:52] <xero> gskillet: what is fakeap?
[04:52] <vinux> woot frozen bubble rocks
[04:53] <bob2> abbot45: so, why don't you explain what you're trying to do
[04:53] <jbroome> saturates the air with fake wireless accesspoints to throw off wardrivers
[04:53] <Gskillet> xero: it generates fake airports
[04:53] <xero> airports?!!  like the places where planes fly into?! i am already confused :-P
[04:54] <Echo_Mage> Fake wireless access points?
[04:54] <seth_k> yep, and fake planes too
[04:54] <Ninwa> Are there any good podcasting clients in the ubuntu repository, anyone know offhand?
[04:54] <abbot45> what i am trying to fix is that when i install and put my root on the 10 gig drive it makes me assign my 40 gig drive with something different, like /home.  but that means that since my home is only on the 40 gig drive, there is a bunch of room on the 10 gig going to waste since i cant save stuff on it.  or am i wrong?
[04:54] <jbroome> Ninwa: do a search for ipodder, that seems to be a good one
[04:54] <jalyst> anyone here gotten FreeNX (server) running nicely on hoary?
[04:54] <bob2> abbot45: there's no simple way around that
[04:54] <Ninwa> Yeah I used that on windows, I hope its in the repository! :)
[04:54] <xero> or do you mean like it makes a computer act as an access point?
[04:54] <abbot45> bob2, i figured as much.
[04:55] <bob2> abbot45: you could use LVM if you really cared
[04:55] <Ninwa> No dice! :( Oh well.
[04:55] <bob2> abbot45: but then if one disk goes, you lose everything
[04:55] <seth_k> Ninwa: if iPodder too hard, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41085
[04:55] <abarbaccia> hey all - can someone help me find a deb that provides an sdl gui?
[04:56] <abbot45> i think i may just deal with it.  if i had a bigger 2nd drive than 40gigs the extra space that im loosing wouldnt matter as much.
[04:56] <Echo_Mage> DAMN how long does Ubuntu take to install
[04:56] <bob2> Echo_Mage: < 30 minutes
[04:56] <xero> does anybody know about using a gmail account and mounting it like as a partition?
[04:56] <bob2> depending on machine speed, of course
[04:56] <concept10> Echo_Mage, 20-25 mins on decent system
[04:56] <bob2> xero: it's really not worth it
[04:56] <abarbaccia> xero, its broken as of now - and not worth it
[04:56] <bob2> abarbaccia: "sdl gui"?
[04:57] <Echo_Mage> bob2>wow this thing is a P3 500 with 64 megs of RAM how long you think that will take?
[04:57] <abarbaccia> yes, i can't find it bob2 -- dont know the package name
[04:57] <Echo_Mage> concept10: same question
[04:57] <bob2> Echo_Mage: go have some tea
[04:57] <concept10> Echo_Mage, how long has your installation been going?   p3 500 might take a while, low ram also
[04:57] <bob2> abarbaccia: what is a "sdl gui"?
[04:57] <concept10> bob2, :)
[04:57] <Echo_Mage> bob2, concept10: may go do that
[04:58] <abarbaccia> something that eboxy is requiring to compile
[04:58] <xero> bob2: not worth it?! how do you figure?! a remote place to backup my files would be quite nice
[04:58] <Madpilot> Echo_Mage: took about 20-30 min on my 2.0Ghz 1Gb RAM machine - will take a fair bit longer on yours! :)
[04:58] <bob2> abarbaccia: what exactly does it say it needs?
[04:58] <Echo_Mage> bob2, concept10:  how much HDD space does Ubuntu take up on a default install?
[04:58] <bob2> Echo_Mage: 1.8gb
[04:58] <abarbaccia> SDL_gui bob2
[04:59] <concept10> Okay, I was unsuccesful trying to get my older sister to run Ubuntu on her Powerbook G4, shes a mac freak, maybe I can convert my younger sister?
[04:59] <Echo_Mage> bob2: means I'm gonna be cramped for space, HD on that system is only 4.3 GB
[04:59] <abarbaccia> bob2, configure: error: *** SDL_gui library not found!
[04:59] <bob2> Echo_Mage: well, it goes down to 1.2gb after install
[05:00] <IcemanV9> concept10: show her what Ubuntu can do for her! :)
[05:00] <bob2> abarbaccia: hm, interesting
[05:00] <concept10> Echo_Mage, time to upgrade that puppy
[05:00] <abarbaccia> bob2, i know, i can't find any packages that provide it - even in sarge!
[05:00] <Echo_Mage> concept10: My grandmother is on the verge of going to Nux as well, My grandpa is hard headed, don't trust anything he's never heard of
[05:00] <synd> concept10: i say leave os x on macs.. ubuntu for everything else : )
[05:01] <inc595> anyone know the settings to autoload dvd in removable drives and media?
[05:01] <bob2> concept10: ubuntu on a powerbook g4 will suck in a couple of ways
[05:01] <xero> yeah osx is awesome no need to run linux on it i think
[05:01] <inc595> i used to have them but I had to reinstall and lost 'em
[05:01] <bob2> concept10: no wireless, and no sleep (at least on nvidia-based machines)
[05:01] <Echo_Mage> They have PPC support for Ubuntu?
[05:01] <concept10> IcemanV9, I cant get my older sister to switch OS X is very good, but I gave her a live CD and she was saying what would I need this for? I thought it was amusing
[05:01] <bob2> Echo_Mage: of course!
[05:01] <xero> bob2: why will ubuntu suck ??
[05:01] <bob2> xero: as above
[05:01] <xero> oh damn
[05:01] <Echo_Mage> Sorry NOOBNESS HERE <-----------------------
[05:01] <xero> yes they do
[05:02] <xero> yeah my cuz who tried it on his powerbook said he had those 2 problems too
[05:02] <concept10> You should have saw the look on her face when ubuntu was booting on her system. She gave me that "What in the hell are you doing?" look
[05:02] <bob2> abarbaccia: that's bizarre
[05:02] <IcemanV9> concept10: ha. that WOULD be amusing! :))
[05:02] <Echo_Mage> LOL I love it when people freak over a Live CD
[05:02] <abarbaccia> bob2, indeed, im gonna try to find it and maybe compile it if all else fails
[05:02] <bob2> abarbaccia: it appears to be dead, tho
[05:03] <concept10> Echo_Mage, older people are like that.  I cant get my mom to touch a computer
[05:03] <bob2> abarbaccia: http://www.newimage.com/~rhk/SDL_gui/
[05:03] <sutabi> it says to update apt and I get this error while updateing:
[05:03] <sutabi> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[05:03] <IcemanV9> concept10: my father-in-law would not EVEN touch a computer *sheesh*
[05:03] <Echo_Mage> concept10: I went to nux because fo WIN XP headaches and security issues
[05:03] <bob2> sutabi: you need to paste the whole error to #flood
[05:03] <IcemanV9> concept10: he thinks it's evil thing
[05:03] <Fr0Gs> were can i download ATI Drivers for a Radeon 9600XT 256mb
[05:04] <bob2> abarbaccia: what's "eboxy"?
[05:04] <Fr0Gs> were can i download ATI Drivers for a Radeon 9600XT 256mb
[05:04] <Luakagon> thank you for spending your time and minds on the problems of strangers
[05:04] <JohnnyQuest> my dad(59) uses a computer more than me
[05:04] <Fr0Gs> message me
[05:04] <Fr0Gs> or just tell me
[05:04] <bob2> Fr0Gs: er, ubuntu installs them by default
[05:04] <Fr0Gs> yes but there slow
[05:04] <bob2> "they're"
[05:04] <abarbaccia> bob2, this is all for my ubuntu-mythtv setup - its something used in a plugin someone wrote to burn TV shows to DVDs through a nice GUI
[05:04] <abarbaccia> bob2, so you dont have to author and do all that crap everytime through a shell
[05:05] <Echo_Mage> My Nvidia Card is monster fast on Mepis, got the newest driver for it straight out of the box
[05:05] <concept10> See that is unfortunate.  I promise to get my mom on the internet while she still has some good years.  She just doesnt understand the potential.  She thinks the internet is the same as BBSes from back in the day when I used to get in some real trouble.
[05:05] <sutabi> bob2, that was the error or you want the warnings too?
[05:05] <bob2> Fr0Gs: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:05] <bob2> sutabi: the whole output of apt
[05:05] <Echo_Mage> concept10: my former step dad thought the same way
[05:06] <sutabi> bob2, http://rafb.net/paste/results/2q3TsH89.html
[05:06] <bob2> bah
[05:07] <sutabi> ?
[05:07] <inc595> any have xine autoloading a dvd?
[05:07] <seth_k> anyone want to try for a definitive answer on whether k7 or 686 kernel is better for an Athlon XP?
[05:07] <XNUKET> Hello All, Has anyone used Ubuntu on a MAC Powerbook G4
[05:07] <abarbaccia> bob2, i found a bunch of rpm packages i think i can alien
[05:07] <bob2> sutabi: you're not using breezy, are you?
[05:07] <scott-> Hello All, Anyone run into this Postfix mail error?  mail for domainxxx.com loops back to myself
[05:07] <bob2> xero: lots of people have
[05:07] <vinux> brb all
[05:07] <don-o_> anyone know why dbus_g_bus_get is not in /usr/lib/libdbus-1.a on
[05:07] <don-o_>                 ubuntu hoary?
[05:07] <sutabi> bob2, no idea ^_-
[05:07] <concept10> Echo_Mage, anyway, get some extra dollars and find some cheap ram and a bigger HD for that system.  it can probably be had for less than $50 if you look around
[05:07] <bob2> scott-: purge and reinstall it, and use the config tool to generate your config
[05:07] <xero> bob2: haha so i see with XNUKET
[05:07] <scott-> Ubuntu runs great on my mac mini..
[05:08] <XNUKET> The 504 ver
[05:08] <bob2> sutabi: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:08] <Redstar> Has anyone been able to get Kino to work with Ubuntu?!?
[05:08] <xero> XNUKET: wireless and/or sleep problems?
[05:08] <bob2> seth_k: k7
[05:08] <lamont> scott-: it means that MX RR (or transport map entries...) point to you, but mydestination doesn't think it's local
[05:08] <man_exec> hey all
[05:08] <lamont> scott-: alternatively, there are two machines with the same value of 'myhostname'
[05:08] <concept10> Echo_Mage, I would send you one if I had some extra money, I have about 10-12 extra harddrives laying around
[05:08] <Echo_Mage> concept10: will do very shortly
[05:09] <xero> Redstar: what is Kino?
[05:09] <sutabi> bob2, http://rafb.net/paste/results/jkC9Hs59.html
[05:09] <scott-> thanks Lamount and Bob, my setting for my  mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain, localhost
[05:09] <xero> Echo_Mage: did i hear free hardwrae?!?!
[05:09] <bob2> sutabi: get rid of the backports lines
[05:10] <bob2> sutabi: and change "us.archive" to "archive"
[05:10] <man_exec> I'm looking for help in adding a module from alan cox's patchset to a hoary install.  can anyone talk me through it or point me to a thorough walk-thru, please?
[05:10] <kalias> Hi! I am in need of some sound/cd help.
[05:10] <IcemanV9> xero: Kino is a digital video editing program
[05:10] <bob2> man_exec: which one?
[05:10] <jalyst> has anyone here worked out how to get FreeNX server running on hoary?
[05:10] <Redstar> that won't work.. it's loads and exists right away
[05:10] <robitaille> jalyst,  http://ubuntu.ca/wiki/index.php/InstallingFreeNX    (but I haven't tried it myself)
[05:10] <scott-> lamont: that is correct my DNS has the FQDN and this machine is behind a Firewall with the same name.  I take it I should just change it.
[05:10] <XNUKET> I amuding wireless works, but on my Powerbook G4 no wireless. Any suggestionsl D600 and everything incl running Ubuntu Live on my Del
[05:10] <man_exec> bob2: thanks...I"ve got a board with the ITE8212 controller onboard
[05:11] <xero> IcemanV9: is it comparable to CoolEditPro in windows?
[05:11] <jalyst> yeah tried that, no go :-(
[05:11] <sutabi> bob2, back ports?
[05:11] <kalias> nickrud:  Hey man :)
[05:11] <bob2> sutabi: oh man
[05:11] <bob2> sutabi: you copied that from ubuntuguide, didn't you
[05:11] <nickrud> hi, kalias, how's life :)
[05:11] <jalyst> i just thought someone may be lurking in forums an come accross somethin more up-to-date
[05:11] <IcemanV9> xero: dunno. never use it, but knew what it is. :) heard you can compare it to Final Cut Pro on Mac
[05:11] <bob2> without understanding what it is
[05:12] <sutabi> bob2, =_= yes
[05:12] <kalias> nickrud:  Life is good :) You?
[05:12] <bob2> someone fix the bloody thing
[05:12] <xero> xero: on  video stuff... i for whtaever was thinking audio im sorry
[05:12] <sutabi> bob2, its aa last of l;ink that tell me where to download applications
[05:12] <nickrud> changing, moving to texas tomorrow
[05:12] <bob2> or people stop blidnly following things
[05:12] <bob2> sutabi: no, it's broken
[05:12] <xero> haha ops i sent that to myself w00t that was slick
[05:12] <bob2> sutabi: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:12] <jalyst> so no-one else here has FreeNX server running on Hoary?!!?
[05:13] <bob2> jalyst: or they're waiting for you to get to your question
[05:13] <sutabi> bob2, okay..
[05:13] <bob2> actually, nevermind
[05:13] <jalyst> question is can someone point me to some doco that actually works
[05:13] <bob2> use the one you used to have
[05:13] <bob2> which you backed up
[05:13] <bob2> and don't believe anything in ubuntuguide yo udon't understand
[05:13] <Redstar> iceman: if it would actually work! =(
[05:14] <sutabi> bob2, that I backed up... Uhh I backed up one? lol
[05:14] <bob2> oh well
[05:14] <IcemanV9> <- just curious - what's happened to archive.ubuntu.com? hardware failure? or someone forgot to pay the bill??
[05:14] <nickrud> might have a chance to meat nalioth som time
[05:14] <bob2> IcemanV9: nothing is wrong with it
[05:14] <bob2> IcemanV9: us.archive is screwed
[05:14] <seth_k> bob2, can you point me to a source for that? not that I don't believe you, but it seems half the things I find say k7, half say 686
[05:15] <jalyst> bob2: have you got FreeNX server going, if so can you point me to some doco or outline some brief steps?
[05:15] <bob2> seth_k: no, sorry
[05:15] <bob2> jalyst: no
[05:15] <bob2> seth_k: an athlon is a k7, tho
[05:15] <seth_k> bob2, ok ^_^
[05:15] <inc595> anyone got xine playing dvd when inserted?
[05:16] <Madpilot> 686 = P4, doesn't it?
[05:16] <thechitowncubs> Sometimes my screen just freezes but my mouse moves around, but nothing else happens, I can't do CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE or anything, and eventually i am forced to restart the computer by forcing the power button, I have read reports about the nvidia-glx package causing it, is there anyway to find out what is happening so that I can see if that is causing it or if it is something else?
[05:16] <xero> does anybody have dualmonitors running w/ fglrx drivers ?
[05:16] <jalyst> how does one go about setting-up there own ubuntu sub-channel
[05:16] <xero> or any ati drivers for htat matter!
[05:17] <concept10> neat photo... airplane entertainment system booting linux airplane entertainment system system booting linux: http://www.flickr.com/photos/colinj/17308794/in/set-442295/
[05:17] <Echo_Mage> Sorry guys I'm away, playing gnometris on other machine
[05:17] <IcemanV9> Madpilot: yep. i have kernel-686 running on P4
[05:17] <Rytets> hey
[05:17] <Ninwa> iPodder seems to have a lot of dependencies that I can't meet. It needs 2.3 and needs for 2.4 to be uninstalled... That sucks.
[05:17] <jalyst> want to get something like Ubuntu-FreeNX going, this general ubuntu help has got whiskers on it
[05:18] <Madpilot> IcemanV9: thought so. AMD machines are all I've ever owned...
[05:18] <lamont> scott-: yes.  no two machines should ever have the same value for myhostname (esp if one is going to talk to the other...) - since that's the check that tells the mailer that it's talking to itself....
[05:19] <scott-> lamount: so if I have this mailserver behind my firewall I should just change the host name and all should be good to go?
[05:20] <jalyst> l
[05:20] <xero> hey does anybody here know if ubuntu needs some more mirrors or something?
[05:21] <inc595> evil xine
[05:21] <vinux> hey all what's a good firewall to get?
[05:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> xero, probably no one here does
[05:21] <filosof> hi all , can somebody tell me please how the php installation (from source) cannot find libxml2 when it's installed ?
[05:22] <xero> vinux: i dont really use one (cringe)  but ive heard firestarter is good
[05:23] <vinux> xero, cool hacking your system now. LOL Just Joking!!! I would probably end up hacking my own system and messing it up. And probably the police would trow me in Jail too
[05:23] <vinux> hmm
[05:23] <xero> hhaa
[05:23] <xero> how would you hack my system?
[05:23] <_kaz> speaking of firewalls... I wonder why there isn't a good APPLICATION firewall for linux yet.
[05:24] <vinux> LOl I have no idea I'm a newbie
[05:24] <resiak> xero: with a 28.8bps modem!!!!!!1111
[05:24] <xero> haha riite
[05:24] <david> hello, my question: where can i get active-x for mozilla?
[05:24] <xero> bring it on
[05:24] <_kaz> ie Zone Alarm/Tiny/Kerio, for linux.
[05:24] <seth_k> david: ahhhhhhhh!
[05:24] <filosof> did somebody tried install PHP5 manualy from source ?
[05:24] <vinux> xero, my system is so easy to hack! I even know the password
[05:25] <IcemanV9> inc595: system > preferences > removable drives and media - if you want to have xine starts instead of totem :)
[05:25] <Madpilot> david: I'm pretty certain you can't. Thank Dog.
[05:25] <sproingie> it's hard.  device drivers in linux can't pop up dialogs
[05:25] <seth_k> david: no such thing at ALL
[05:25] <sproingie> er that was directed to _kaz
[05:25] <sproingie> most of these firewalls hook into the driver interface in windows, which has the layered SPI interface
[05:25] <xero> vinux: really.... horray for u
[05:25] <lorz> has anybody used fetchyahoo?
[05:25] <david> how do i get cedega working them
[05:25] <_kaz> I saw one on sourceforge... forgot what its was called though... tuxsomething or somethingtux
[05:25] <sproingie> the only thing that comes close to that other than STREAMS is netgraph
[05:26] <xero> i can hack anything if i have local access to the mahcine
[05:26] <vinux> xero, hehe
[05:26] <david> xero: 192.168.1.111
[05:26] <xero> haha oh what a wonderful LOCAL ip
[05:26] <IIIEars_> New user question #101 - How do i match a process to the amount of ram it is using :?
[05:26] <xero> :-P
[05:26] <xero> david: i can tell u that u have a linksys router :-P
[05:26] <lorz> has anybody used fetchyahoo?
[05:27] <sproingie> IIIEars_: top
[05:27] <nEEdHelP> hi everyone... someone can tell me how to fix my bootrecord?
[05:27] <Chameleon22> when i look an some sites with firefox, the fonts appear to be to small, but when i look at the same site with IE or Konqueror fonts seem ok, is there way to fix this problem?
[05:27] <IIIEars_> Very nice! - Sproingie you are awesome.
[05:27] <nEEdHelP> I cant boot via windows xp... just by ubuntu
[05:27] <xero> oh wait that was a test question...
[05:27] <sproingie> IIIEars_: for one process, try ps u <pid>
[05:28] <nEEdHelP> grub isnt working
[05:28] <IIIEars_> sproingie - Thank You.
[05:28] <Madpilot> well, that was novel. X just crashed on me...
[05:28] <nEEdHelP> i installed lilo but it just boot ubuntu
[05:28] <_kaz> ah here it is... tuxguardian http://sourceforge.net/projects/tuxguardian/
[05:28] <xero> nEEdHelp: is there an option in grub for your winxp setup and doesnt boot to it or no?
[05:28] <_kaz> http://tuxguardian.sourceforge.net/
[05:29] <quam> xero: if you've used something like partition magic to make the winxp partition hidden, even grub wont add it to the list to load
[05:29] <sproingie> well if you installed lilo, grub ain't gonna work.  run grub-install to take lilo out
[05:29] <quam> needhelp: did you use a partition manager like partition magic?
[05:29] <nEEdHelP> yes
[05:30] <nEEdHelP> the first time i installed ubuntu could choose the boot
[05:30] <quam> you'll need to use another partitioning program and set the windows drive unhidden if you hid it during partition magic partition setup
[05:30] <xero> quam: on really didnt know that.... does it hide it by default when you splice off a new partition?
[05:30] <sproingie> ah, tuxguardian uses LSM, and presumably there's providers for network
[05:30] <R0d0lf0> nEEdHelP go here: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WindowsDualBootHowTo/view?searchterm=partimage
[05:30] <FR500> hello
[05:30] <sproingie> modular security providers are nice
[05:30] <quam> xero: if you tell partition magic you want to install another os, it asks you if you're going to do it right away or od it later. if you choose do it right away, it hides the windows partition so when you reboot it goes to the partition of the new os
[05:31] <xero> oh darn hmm
[05:31] <quam> i had to unhide mine with qtpart or whatever it's called and then reinstall grub so it would see it
[05:31] <FR500> one lil question, i changed my gnome splash to reflect my current theme's whiteness, but when i login, i still get that brown behind my whiteish splash, how can i change that color
[05:31] <xero> when i set one up for a friend i just spliced of the right amount
[05:31] <SantasLittleHelp> Hi guys. I'm having some difficulties installing a driver for my wireless card. It's a RT2500. I tried to follow the instruction on the wiki, but failed when I tried to install libqt3-dev. Can anyone guide me through that step? Just recently installed Ubuntu.
[05:31] <nEEdHelP> Let me explain what happened....
[05:31] <xero> and then from there went in w/ the installcd and installed it on that partition
[05:31] <Chameleon22> when i look an some sites with firefox, the fonts appear to be to small, but when i look at the same site with IE or Konqueror fonts seem ok, is there way to fix this problem?
[05:32] <quam> needhelp: did you tell partition you were going to install another os, and that you were going to do it right away? if so, it hid your windows partition
[05:32] <IIIEars_> xero - if in the unlikely (very unlikely) event that things look bad. - check out the dd command, linux fdisk, or possibly qtparted on a live linux CD.
[05:32] <Echo_Mage> Okay I'm confused, why are ther no Icons on the desktop in Ubuntu
[05:32] <FR500> Echo_Mage, it's only a configuration
[05:33] <quam> ears, needhelp is the one with the problem, xero is the one helping him :P
[05:33] <xero> IIIEars_: will those be able to partition off segments of a previous partition?
[05:33] <Echo_Mage> How do you get the Icons on the desktop so I feel a little at home
[05:33] <quam> ears: i think :p
[05:33] <jamesm> does ubuntu have a netinstall cd?
[05:33] <FR500> Echo_Mage, it's at www.ubuntuguide.org
[05:33] <xero> well i am interested mainly in b/c i just did this for a friend
[05:33] <xero> he didnt have an problems though which confuses me
[05:34] <nEEdHelP> When i installed ubuntu first time GRUB used ask me which OS i wanted to boot. but i need format ubuntu partition then i installed lilo... but lilo just start ubuntu... it dosent ask me what OS i want
[05:34] <xero> using partitionmagic in windows to sect of a part of his windows partition. and then from there installed linux on it
[05:34] <IIIEars_> nEEdHelP - if in the unlikely (very unlikely) event that things look bad. - check out the dd command, linux fdisk, or possibly qtparted on a live linux CD.
[05:34] <quam> why would you install grub and lilo :P
[05:34] <jbroome> so it boots twice as fast?
[05:34] <vinux> what's a good antivirs program for ubuntu?
[05:34] <quam> haha jbroome
[05:34] <quam> antivirus, for linux? :P
[05:34] <Octane> someone needs to package the new nvidia drivers
[05:34] <FR500> vinux, there are not many viruses that can attack you
[05:34] <xero> needhelp: why did you use lilo? did grub not work?
[05:35] <nEEdHelP> yes
[05:35] <vinux> FR500, yea I know but I like being safe :)
[05:35] <xero> hmm
[05:35] <FR500> why are the fonts rendered so dirty on my card?
[05:35] <xero> ive never messed w/ lilo so i honestly dont think i can help ya
[05:35] <nEEdHelP> grub was confused because i formated and resized the ubuntu's partition
[05:36] <IIIEars_> vinux - there aren't many viruses out there for linux. virus writers are focused on windows. - Still worried try "clam" anti virus.
[05:36] <R0d0lf0> nEEdHelP bro, i'm telling you the answer about how to fix that is here ---> Just read it : http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WindowsDualBootHowTo/view?searchterm=partimage
[05:36] <quam> i did lilo years ago. i prefer the loaders with graphical setup
[05:36] <nEEdHelP> ok
[05:36] <vinux> IIIEars_, cool thanks
[05:36] <nEEdHelP> i'm going check this out
[05:36] <R0d0lf0> good
[05:37] <SantasLittleHelp> Been trying to install the wireless card driver for about 3hrs now, with no luck. =\
[05:37] <FR500> how can i change the colo behind the splash screen theme
[05:37] <FR500> SantasLittleHelp, what card?
[05:37] <xero> what card?
[05:37] <SantasLittleHelp> RT2500.
[05:38] <IIIEars_> xero - Thanks - I just "kill"ed a RAM hog. :)
[05:38] <FR500> what brand is that?
[05:38] <nEEdHelP> just one more question....
[05:38] <SantasLittleHelp> RalinkTech.
[05:38] <SantasLittleHelp> Yes, I followed the instructions listed on the website, but I had one small problem.
[05:38] <xero> IIIEars_ : sudo killall 'appname'
[05:39] <IIIEars_> xero - the ps "u" switch was a sniper rifle.
[05:39] <SantasLittleHelp> "sudo apt-get install qt3-dev qt3-dev-tools"...failed. I tried libqt3-dev, failed as well.
[05:39] <nEEdHelP> I have a DOSboot diskette... should i boot from it and use the /fixmbr command to clean GRUB?
[05:39] <FR500> SantasLittleHelp, do u use ndiswrapper?
[05:39] <madsen> Oi!
[05:39] <IIIEars_> nEEdHelP - sure that should work.
[05:39] <madsen> I've got a little problem with Xorg and drop-shadows...
[05:40] <FR500> .
[05:40] <SantasLittleHelp> I tried to use ndiswrapper.
[05:40] <xero> FR500 i heard ndiswrapper blows bigtime but if its the only thing that works then whatever
[05:40] <SantasLittleHelp> Failed.
[05:40] <SantasLittleHelp> Appears I need dhcpcd.
[05:40] <xero> dhclient
[05:40] <xero> dhcpcd --> dhclient
[05:40] <SantasLittleHelp> Because..it's not my own network that I'm connecting to. my neighbor's unsecured wireless network.
[05:40] <nEEdHelP> thanks everyone... i'm going to try resolve the problem
[05:41] <madsen> I've followed the wiki guide for DropShadows, but no luck. :( xcompmgr keeps telling me the composite extension isn't loaded even though the logfiles for Xorg say it is.
[05:41] <xero> :-P w00t for wireless stealing!!!
[05:41] <SantasLittleHelp> Hit 400gb last month.
[05:41] <FR500> xero, actually ndiswrapper rocks unless you need monitor mode and that stuff
[05:41] <FR500> it's a good piece of sw
[05:41] <xero> hmm
[05:41] <lakin> It's not wireless stealing.  His neighbor is giving it away for free.
[05:41] <xero> lakin: good point :-D
[05:41] <SantasLittleHelp> Purely educational purposes.
[05:41] <madsen> No one experienced with the drop-shadows problem?
[05:42] <Madpilot> yeah, but his neighbour is an idiot... ;)
[05:42] <toresbe> well, fucking duh :P
[05:42] <FR500> SantasLittleHelp, are you able to set essid and get ap bssid?
[05:42] <toresbe> It's not stealing.
[05:42] <SantasLittleHelp> Yes.
[05:42] <FR500> SantasLittleHelp, then type dhclient
[05:42] <FR500> and voila
[05:42] <bob2> madsen: try asking on the user list
[05:42] <bob2> toresbe: CoC
[05:42] <TokenBad> hmm..weird...i can save files from mozilla to my one drive..but from azureus I can't
[05:42] <TokenBad> weird stuff
[05:42] <toresbe> every 100ms, the AP sends out "HEY look at me I'm named default plz connect k? thanks"
[05:42] <SantasLittleHelp> Okay. I'll give it a try.
[05:42] <xero> if u need to run dhcpcd then just use the command 'dhclient' its the same thing from what i know
[05:42] <bob2> madsen: (COmposite is kinda nasty and slow and unstable, too)
[05:42] <madsen> bob2: Hmm, ok...
[05:43] <madsen> bob2: Yeah, I know, but I'd still like to try it out. (Coming from plain Debian there's a lot of stuff in Ubuntu I've never tried.)
[05:43] <Matthew_W> My laptop refuses to properly detect my battery with ACPI.  Gbattstat returns unknown battery klaptop returns no battery, dmesg returns AE_NOT_FOUND 100,000 times, and ACPI -V returns Thermal data, and AC data, but no battery data, help.
[05:43] <bob2> madsen: yeah, fair enough
[05:43] <xero> anybody wanna trade a nvidia 5900 for a ati9700??
[05:43] <bob2> Matthew_W: do you have the battery module loaded?
[05:44] <FR500> Why are the fonts at gnome terminal rendered like c*ap
[05:44] <Matthew_W> bob2:  Where would I find that.. synaptic?  Because the battery monitor prog is indeed running, but... not detecting my battery
[05:44] <WebMaven> I got an MD5 error in synaptic.
[05:44] <SantasLittleHelp> Currently making a transition to Linux. I was a hardcore Windows fanboy. -.-
[05:44] <bob2> Matthew_W: "lsmod | grep battery", in a terminal...what does it print out (if anything)?
[05:44] <FR500> SantasLittleHelp, did it work?
[05:44] <WebMaven> who do I talk to?
[05:44] <Matthew_W> santas: 16 years running windoze.
[05:45] <madsen> Uh, one more thing... After I did the upgrade from Warty to Hoary I get kernel panic when booting kernel 2.6.10... Do I need to pass it some devfs=mount in grub or something?
[05:45] <SantasLittleHelp> Been 6 or 7 years for me. I need to grab the driver. =\
[05:45] <bob2> WebMaven: edit the repository list so you're not using us.archive.ubuntu.com
[05:45] <madsen> (I upgraded from Warty to Hoary because my hoary cds haven't arrived yet.)
[05:45] <bob2> madsen: with a default kernel?
[05:45] <madsen> bob2: Yup
[05:45] <Matthew_W> bob2:    battery                     10244  0
[05:45] <bob2> madsen: (upgrading is fine and encouraged....when you stick the hoary cd into a warty system, it will offer to upgrade off the cd, no less)
[05:45] <SnowWrite> I just built a server with ubuntu.. squid.. awstats.. webmin.. zope and plone..
[05:46] <bob2> madsen: what does "dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n1" print out?
[05:46] <bob2> SnowWrite: are you a zope programmer, or are you just using plone?
[05:46] <FR500> SnowWrite, u need Hula for mail!
[05:46] <SnowWrite> i'm having problems with webmin "seeing" my server configs.. have to add stuff manually
[05:46] <Madpilot> later, all.
[05:46] <madsen> bob2: Well, fine. Then I just have to wait for the Hoary cds to arrive. :-p ;)
[05:46] <SnowWrite> i'm a plone developer..
[05:46] <bob2> SnowWrite: oh, cool
[05:46] <IIIEars_> nEEdHelp - nah i bet you set a good password ;) - don't worry the people here are friendly and helpful. (only 6 weeks at this myself)
[05:46] <SnowWrite> not a strong programmer though.. fair warning.. been working with Plone for 3 years.. just build a server for a local school district
[05:47] <Matthew_W> bob2:  any ideas based on that?
[05:47] <WebMaven> bob2, what should it use?
[05:47] <madsen> bob2: 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n1' says:
[05:47] <madsen> ii  libc6          2.3.2.ds1-20ub GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone
[05:47] <bob2> WebMaven: just archive.ubnutu.com (us. is screwed atm)
[05:47] <bob2> madsen: hm, ok
[05:47] <WebMaven> OK.
[05:47] <IIIEars_> nEEdHelp - okay give me a sec. i'll get the link and type the command here.
[05:47] <bob2> Matthew_W: it sounds like your hardware just isn't supported yet (at a guess; I'm no expert)
[05:48] <bob2> Matthew_W: if you can file a bug on the "linux" product (http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com), that would be great
[05:48] <FR500> how can i change the default brown color that appears on the background after loggining into gdm to something i like?
[05:48] <xero> FR500: let me know once u figure that out
[05:48] <Matthew_W> bob2:  some people have apparently had this problem with every other distro of linux imaginable (I've had it with mandrake, mandriva, redhat, suse, kubuntu, and ubuntu...)
[05:48] <bob2> FR500: right click on the background
[05:48] <FR500> bob2, wont work
[05:48] <madsen> FR500: What happens?
[05:48] <bob2> FR500: how do you mean?
[05:49] <caonex> i would like to install a kernel image from ubuntu repositories but i do not want to do it from apt-get since it has some conflicts and it is trying to download different images, could i just download from ubuntu the package and install it with dpkg without a problem?
[05:49] <bob2> Matthew_W: yeah, some hardware just isn't supported yet
[05:49] <FR500> bob2, it's apllied a bit later
[05:49] <FR500> so the default brown is shown behind my white splash
[05:49] <bob2> Matthew_W: the problem seems to be most manufacturers don't comply with the ACPI spec very strictly, just enough so windows works.  so linux needs to emulate how windows works, in addition to the spec
[05:49] <bob2> or so I gather
[05:49] <bob2> Matthew_W: but if you can file a bug, the acpi wizards can probably get it to work
[05:50] <bob2> FR500: oh, you mean during login?
[05:50] <FR500> my yes
[05:50] <FR500> i think i got it
[05:50] <FR500> there is a "no wallpaper" wallpaper that might be it
[05:50] <Matthew_W> bob2:  just a nuisance to have my laptop suddenly die.  There's something about a DSDT?   Do you know anything about this?
[05:51] <Matthew_W> bob2:  on an off topic question, how does one make a program run on startup?
[05:51] <caonex> where can i download the kernel-images*.deb from ubuntu?
[05:51] <FR500> Matthew_W, in gnome?
[05:51] <Matthew_W> fr5: yeah
[05:51] <bob2> Matthew_W: DSDT is code stored on the machine that explains to the kernel how the hardware fits together, I think
[05:51] <Matthew_W> FR500: ** yeah
[05:52] <bob2> Matthew_W: someimtes it's wrong, so people have made patched ones which sometimes help
[05:52] <bob2> Matthew_W: at login or boot?
[05:52] <FR500> Matthew_W, in System-administration-gnome-session
[05:52] <Matthew_W> bob2:  Yeah, i recompiled my kernel in mandrake to include a modified DSDT -- but.. I don't know it just seemed to slow down my entire system.
[05:53] <bob2> oh, wow
[05:53] <caonex> where can i download ubuntu packages from?
[05:53] <FR500> brb
[05:53] <bob2> Matthew_W: oh, when you do file that bug, include the model number and stuff, and set it to CC mjg59@codon.org.uk
[05:53] <bob2> caonex: you don't want kernel-image-*
[05:54] <madsen> bob2: It worked with devfs=mount hehe. :)
[05:54] <madsen> Woh! Ubuntu Hoary boots _really_ fast compared to e.g. Debian!
[05:54] <bob2> madsen: er, that's weird, ubuntu doesn't use devfs
[05:54] <xero> so yeah wait how do u make things start when gnome starts?
[05:54] <xero> i did it once but i forgot
[05:54] <FR500> bob2, any clues, it didnt work
[05:54] <madsen> bob2: Hmm... Odd... Might have been something else then...
[05:55] <caonex> bob2, what do i want?
[05:55] <bob2> xero: system -> preferences -> session
[05:55] <madsen> bob2: I'll try next time without devfs=mount then. ;)
[05:55] <caonex> bob2, i need one like the ubuntu installs
[05:55] <bob2> caonex: what are you trying to do?
[05:55] <bob2> madsen: heh
[05:55] <bob2> caonex: hrm? it's installed by default.
[05:55] <xero> bob2: awesome ok thanks
[05:55] <caonex> bob2, install a kernel like the one that comes with ubuntu preinstalled using dpkg
[05:55] <agil> halo
[05:55] <caonex> bob2, there is a bug that messed mine up
[05:55] <FR500> bob2, do you think it's a "root" option
[05:55] <knapjack> Anyone know of a good channel for general wireless support?
[05:55] <IIIEars_> nEEdHelp - okay jeez i lost my note and these are just plain confusing. - sorry. - linux or dos fdisk is fine. - was trying to be helpful :/  http://aplawrence.com/Bofcusm/481.html http://www.balug.org/ml/balug-talk/msg01780.html
[05:56] <agil> halo
[05:56] <caonex> bob2, i do not have the image nor the initrd in this computer
[05:56] <bob2> caonex: sudo apt-get install linux-2.6
[05:56] <bob2> FR500: I don't know what you're doing
[05:56] <bob2> FR500: if you're trying to modify the login images, you do need to modify some packaged files, afaik
[05:56] <xero> bob2: how about durring startup? b/c for whatever reason i dont think that ssh starts when i boot my desktop :-.
[05:56] <bob2> knapjack: here, if you're using ubuntu
[05:56] <bob2> xero: install openssh-server
[05:56] <FR500> bob2, when you loggin, there is the splash screen, on it's back there is a browncolor
[05:57] <FR500> i changed the splash image
[05:57] <duken> how to mirroring archive ubuntu ?
[05:57] <caonex> bob2, and apt-get did not do it becuase it was doing some conflicts......bob, i do not have internet in that one
[05:57] <FR500> but the brown color still remains the same
[05:57] <duken> step by step
[05:57] <agil> sex
[05:57] <agil> edan
[05:57] <bob2> caonex: how on earth did you get conflicts?
[05:57] <FR500> bob2, splashes are here /usr/share/pixmaps/splash/
[05:57] <duken> but just arch i386
[05:57] <xero> bob2: oh damn i thought it was done on default
[05:57] <bob2> duken: use debmirrors
[05:57] <nEEdHelP> thanks IIIEars
[05:57] <knapjack> bob2: I am using Ubuntu, but my problem is on OSX :)
[05:57] <madsen> FR500: I think you have to change something in the GDM theme then.
[05:57] <bob2> xero: it is, if you install openssh-server
[05:58] <FR500> madsen, my gdm theme is white :p
[05:58] <black13> how do tell if package has been installed
[05:58] <nEEdHelP> iiiears; i'm studing the info you sent me... thank you
[05:58] <xero> bob2: just did
[05:58] <caonex> bob2, i do not know some people have been getting the same thing, ask nickrud
[05:58] <bob2> black13: look for it in synaptic
[05:58] <nickrud> lol
[05:58] <black13> apt-cache search libexpat
[05:58] <black13> does nothing
[05:58] <madsen> FR500: Hmm... Try checking out the gdm theme and see if there are any brown colors anywhere.
[05:58] <caonex> bob2, it kept telling me that it could not create an initrd, that my grub did not support initrd, and i had the image installed already
[05:58] <duken> bob2 how to use it
[05:58] <black13> bob2, synaptic?
[05:59] <FR500> ok
[05:59] <bob2> caonex: what does "dpkg -l libc6 | awk /^ii/ '{print $3}' print out?
[05:59] <nickrud> hah, I just happened to be listening
[05:59] <bob2> duken: it has a man page...
[05:59] <bob2> black13: the package install queue
[05:59] <bob2> er, too, not queue
[05:59] <Echo_Mage> Well thats neat, even on that old clunker, Ubuntu seems to run well
[05:59] <xero> Echo_Mage: what display manager?
[05:59] <bob2> duken: time debmirror -m -h au.archive.ubuntu.com -p -v --nosource --method=ftp -r /ubuntu/ -d warty,hoary,breezy --section=main,restricted --arch=i386  ./ubuntu/
[06:00] <Echo_Mage> Gnome
[06:00] <caonex> bob2, everytime i did apt-get update and install anything, the error would come again and until yesterday it ruined my images and was not able to boot. For my luck i had compiled a kernel but this one does not let the nic work, even when they have built in support compiled
[06:00] <bob2> duken: that's how I run it
[06:00] <caonex> bob2, one second.
[06:00] <duken> ok thx bob
[06:00] <caonex> bob2, i am doing this by phone, no internet, no nic
[06:00] <Echo_Mage> xero: the default that comes with Ubuntu
[06:00] <jmsl> anyone here happen to hack/build firefox?
[06:00] <Fr0Gs> what version of X.Org or XFREE86 does ubuntu use
[06:01] <WebMaven> bob2, thank you, that fixed it.
[06:01] <bob2> WebMaven: cool
[06:01] <Fr0Gs> what version of X.Org or XFREE86 does ubuntu use
[06:01] <xero> Echo_Mage: so gnome :-) does it like run really slow or somehting?
[06:01] <agil> hello
[06:01] <kafeine> Fr0Gs, warty or hoary?
[06:01] <whiprush> Fr0Gs: 6.8.2
[06:01] <bob2> Fr0Gs: 6.8.2
[06:01] <agil> it agil
[06:01] <IcemanV9> Fr0Gs: 6.8.2 for Xorg
[06:01] <Fr0Gs> ok
[06:01] <Fr0Gs> so there is no xfree86
[06:01] <WebMaven> bob2, what exactly is wrong with us.archive.ubuntu.com, anyway?
[06:01] <agil> i am agil
[06:01] <xero> haha i guess he got the point
[06:01] <Echo_Mage> xero: hard drive access time are slow but other than that it works great
[06:01] <xero> kewl
[06:02] <xero> i remember starting firefox and waiting a while
[06:02] <Fr0Gs> so there is no xfree86 bob2
[06:02] <bob2> WebMaven: I don't know.  it's not just out of date, things are actually corrupt...maybe their disk is failing or something.
[06:02] <IcemanV9> Fr0Gs: there is, but almost no one uses it
[06:02] <Fr0Gs> lol
[06:02] <Fr0Gs> ok
[06:02] <Echo_Mage> xero that machine should be good for the kids when they want to play a game
[06:02] <WebMaven> bob2, how long has this been a problem?
[06:02] <Echo_Mage> gotta download more for it tho
[06:02] <johnnybezak> hey guys i've got a ".img" file that I need to extract or whatever you do with a dot image file how can I open it?
[06:02] <kvidell> It's a cd image?
[06:03] <agil> i am agil
[06:03] <bob2> WebMaven: a few days now.  I take it someone has contact the admins of tha, and the ubuntu.com admins have been contacted, too
[06:03] <Echo_Mage> Gonna need to find a way to hook it up to my network tho, not sure if it will replace Mepis tho
[06:03] <johnnybezak> kvidell: how do i open it>? or do i mount it
[06:03] <agil> hello agil
[06:03] <kvidell> is it a cd image?
[06:03] <madsen> Hmm, this may be a trivial problem... When I try to go find my favourite extensions for Firefox I get redirected to a Firefox 1.0.4 download... Can't install the extensions. :-/
[06:03] <johnnybezak> kvidell: yeah, its got some installation media on it
[06:03] <kvidell> mount -lo image /place/to/mount I think
[06:04] <bob2> johnnybezak: sudo modprobe loop ; sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop ./foo.img /mnt
[06:04] <kafeine> madsen, edit your about:config
[06:04] <Strife> just out of curiosity, why does it seem like ubuntu packages aren't updated very often with hoary?
[06:04] <WebMaven> bob2, OK, good. Is there an ETA for a fix, or should I just keep using archive.ubuntu.com permanently?
[06:04] <madsen> kafeine: How? Or rather, what should I edit?
[06:04] <kafeine> sec
[06:05] <Strife> e.g., gaim is v. 1.1.4, whereas the current release of gaim is v. 1.3.1
[06:05] <bob2> WebMaven: I don't know, sorry
[06:05] <jamesm> does ubuntu have xfce 4.2?
[06:05] <kafeine> madsen, general.useragent.vendorSub
[06:05] <kvidell> bob2: does mount -lo not do the same thing or is your way just more... guarenteed to work?
[06:05] <kafeine> make it 1.0.4
[06:05] <madsen> kafeine: Hehe, clever! :)
[06:05] <WebMaven> bob2, OK. Is there a page on the ubuntu.org site with a notice?
[06:05] <caonex> bob2, it says: 2.3.2.dsl-20ub
[06:05] <kafeine> we be geeks here, after all
[06:05] <johnnybezak> bob2: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0
[06:05] <bob2> WebMaven: not that I know of
[06:05] <caonex> bob2, sorry took so long but by phone with my dad....
[06:06] <filosof> can somebody tell me please where zlib is placed in Ubuntu ?
[06:06] <bob2> kvidell: I didn't know mount had a -lo option
[06:06] <kvidell> johnnybezak: did my method fail as well?
[06:06] <bob2> filosof: zlib0g
[06:06] <WebMaven> bob2, OK, I'll just check back here in the channel in a few days, then.
[06:06] <caonex> bob2, is that what you were looking for?
[06:06] <bob2> filosof: what are yo utrying to compile?
[06:06] <bob2> caonex: yes
[06:06] <WebMaven> bob2, thanks again.
[06:06] <bob2> caonex: I don't know what the problem could be, sorry
[06:06] <bob2> WebMaven: np
[06:06] <agil> hello
[06:06] <kvidell> I thought it did.. it might be --loop that I'm thinking of
[06:06] <agil> hello
[06:06] <caonex> bob2, so where can i download the .deb for the image
[06:06] <caonex> ?
[06:06] <bob2> johnnybezak: what does "file foo.img" say?
[06:06] <filosof>  bob2  PHP , and it ask about zlib directory
[06:06] <kvidell> It's been awhile since I've had to do that kind of mounting.
[06:06] <agil> iam agil
[06:06] <kvidell> I only do it to check initrd images.
[06:07] <bob2> filosof: you know php is in ubuntu, right
[06:07] <bob2> caonex: packages.ubuntu.com/linux-image-2.6.10-5-386
[06:07] <agil> do you have cheat ps
[06:07] <filosof>  bob2  yes i know , but i want to compile it from source with my own options
[06:07] <IcemanV9> jamesm: xfce 4.2.1.1-2ubuntu2 0
[06:07] <bob2> filosof: why?
[06:07] <holycow> hey guys, i get a high pitched sound from my speakers whenever alsa starts, when i stop alsa it goes away
[06:07] <johnnybezak> bob2: boot.img x86 boot sector
[06:07] <bob2> filosof: which module isn't in ubuntu?
[06:07] <thoreauputic> hmm.. hope someone has some ideas: my latest kernel update is unbootable and I've had to fall back to a warty kernel..
[06:07] <holycow> any idea how to debug such a thing?
[06:07] <IIIEars_> bob2 - amazing. - guru status. - nice
[06:07] <bob2> johnnybezak: so, it's not a cd image
[06:07] <kalias> nickrud: I am back.
[06:07] <jamesm> thanks IcemanV9
[06:07] <bob2> johnnybezak: what is it and what are you trying to do with it?
[06:07] <levander`> How do I find out what the last four packages updated on my machine were? I want to verify they installed correctly.
[06:08] <bob2> levander`: how did you update them?
[06:08] <thoreauputic> I get a hang at "starting enterprise volume management"
[06:08] <caonex> bob2, could you at least tell me where to get the package file, since i do not have internet and need to take it to the computer?
[06:08] <kafeine> levander`, you should have some logs of it
[06:08] <thoreauputic> and the kernal won't go any further
[06:08] <bob2> caonex: er, I did
[06:08] <filosof>  bob2  just want to compile it in my own way :-) anyway where the zlib directory is placed in Ubuntu ?
[06:08] <levander`> bob2: sudo apt-get upgrade ; sudo apt-get update
[06:08] <caonex> bob2, oh i see sorry
[06:09] <bob2> thoreauputic: does taking that out of the boot sequence help? (sudo rm /etc/rc2.d/S*evms)
[06:09] <levander`> kafeine: where are these logs?
[06:09] <kalias> How do you tell if your sound card is properly configured?
[06:09] <bob2> levander`: then it's not logged anywhere, sorry
[06:09] <johnnybezak> bob2: i need it for doing a debian usb install, its got a kernel and some other stuff on there
[06:09] <bob2> kalias: can you play music?
[06:09] <bob2> johnnybezak: so, dump it on a usb disk
[06:09] <bob2> levander`: aptitude does log it, yet another reason to use it :P
[06:09] <bob2> IIIEars_: hm?
[06:09] <levander`> bob2: where does it get logged if you use the update notifier thingy ubuntu put in there with hoary
[06:09] <kalias> no I can't seem to play anything.  I tried the solution in the unoffical guide and that didn't work either.
[06:09] <IIIEars_> NICE WORK!! :)
[06:09] <bob2> levander`: I don't think that logs it, either
[06:09] <thoreauputic> bob2: I'll try that - so far I've chrooted in and installed 2.6.8.1-4 9which doesn't fully work but at least boots)
[06:10] <levander`> is update notifier the same as aptitude?
[06:10] <caonex> bob2, if it tells me to configure initrd because it cannot create image, what should i do? this is the problem i have been getting for a week now.
[06:10] <bob2> thoreauputic: ah, ok
[06:10] <bob2> levander`: no
[06:10] <bob2> caonex: I don't know
[06:10] <bob2> caonex: I can't imagine how you could get that without doin gmajorly silly things
[06:10] <thoreauputic> bob2: thanks for theidea - I'm going to try it now :)
[06:10] <bob2> (whicI assume you haven't done, or you'd have mentioned it)
[06:10] <levander`> is there a way to check what the last twenty packages updated by ubuntu in their repositories were?
[06:10] <johnnybezak> bob2: just put her on there?
[06:11] <bob2> levander`: yes, http://lists.ubuntu.com/, the changes lists
[06:11] <kalias> bob2: I installed xmms and alsa with no success.
[06:11] <bob2> johnnybezak: dd if=/foo.img of=/dev/sdX
[06:11] <levander`> caonex: gimme a few seconds, i gotta link to mkinitrd instructions
[06:11] <bob2> johnnybezak: make sure you get sdX correct, or you will toast a disk
[06:11] <bob2> kalias: ignore that
[06:11] <bob2> kalias: what does "fuser -v /dev/snd/*" print?
[06:11] <levander`> caonex: take a few, it's in my /etc versioning repository
[06:11] <johnnybezak> bob2: what
[06:11] <bob2> kalias: (in #flood)
[06:11] <bob2> johnnybezak: ?
[06:11] <caonex> bob2, i did not do anything....just install some other programs, but never touched kernel
[06:11] <johnnybezak> bob2: what is that dd command all about
[06:11] <bob2> johnnybezak: I'm pretty sure the debian install guide explains how to do this
[06:12] <Matthew_W> bob2:  how long does bug reporting normally take
[06:12] <bob2> caonex: what programs? from where?
[06:12] <johnnybezak> bob2: :P
[06:12] <Matthew_W> bob2:  I posted it, I mean the reply
[06:12] <bob2> Matthew_W: to report? < 2 minutes.
[06:12] <bob2> Matthew_W: depends
[06:12] <caonex> bob2, universe and multiuniverse, amsn and i think that was it
[06:12] <kalias> bob2:/dev/snd/*: No such file or directory
[06:12] <bob2> filosof: sudo apt-get build-dep php
[06:12] <bob2> filosof: bear in mind, this is highly silly; php in ubuntu has *every* module (bar like 3) enabled already
[06:13] <bob2> filosof: plus, if you compile it yourself, you need to keep track of security updates
[06:13] <caonex> bob2, nothing bad i guess and i even commented everything out after the error and just started working with the ubuntu supported repositories, but still go the error.
[06:13] <flodine> anyone on 64 bit ubuntu
[06:13] <bob2> caonex: very odd
[06:13] <bob2> kalias: well, that would be the start of your problems ;)
[06:13] <bob2> kalias: what sound card do you have?
[06:13] <caonex> bob2, i just know i am not the first, because nickrud told someone had come to the channel with the same problem.
[06:13] <bob2> johnnybezak: dd is the tool used to dum pthe install image onto the disk
[06:13] <kalias> bob2: I will have to crack the box open and take a look.
[06:13] <johnnybezak> bob2: can't i just copy it
[06:13] <bob2> caonex: most of the other people with initrd problems did highly silly things like use the backports libc6, or partially upgrading to breezy
[06:14] <bob2> kalias: "lspci | grep Multi" is enough
[06:14] <bob2> johnnybezak: no
[06:14] <caonex> bob2, i do not know. It is just messing me up because for some reason with the one i compiled the nics do not work so i cannot do anything to it and have to tell my dad over the phone who does not know anything about linux. Imagine.
[06:14] <bob2> johnnybezak: your bios is in charge of booting the usb stick...do you think it knows how to read ext2?
[06:14] <levander`> caonex: sorry, it ended up i didn't have to do that mkinitrd because I decided my CD drive failed  and it wasn't software, didn't save that link anywhere
[06:14] <caonex> levander`, its ok
[06:15] <kalias> bob2: blank it gave me nothing.
[06:15] <johnnybezak> bob2: hehe sure... ok how do i find out what X is in /dev/sdaX the disk just automounted
[06:15] <bob2> kalias: ouch
[06:15] <JohnnyQuest> can anyone make a suggestion for a fix for this error?
[06:15] <JohnnyQuest> mythtv-setup: error while loading shared libraries: libmythtv-0.18.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:15] <bob2> johnnybezak: the output of "mount"
[06:15] <kalias> bob2: I take it that is not good.
[06:15] <johnnybezak> bob2: roger that
[06:15] <bob2> kalias: well, it means you don't have a pci sound card
[06:15] <FR500> wow gdesklet is very heavy
[06:15] <bob2> JohnnyQuest: it means that mythtv wasn't installed properly
[06:15] <kalias> bob2: will linux support that?
[06:16] <bob2> kalias: yes
[06:16] <kalias> bob2: I imagine is must be an isa card.
[06:16] <Matthew_W> How are there that many people in this channel and only this many talking? lol.
[06:16] <filosof>  bob2  i am kind on half way now, and want to finish it the some way i started :-) can you please tell me how to find this zlib in system ?
[06:16] <JohnnyQuest> i know that bob
[06:16] <bob2> kalias: but I don't know the details
[06:16] <JohnnyQuest> im installling it...
[06:16] <JohnnyQuest> and thats the error ig et installing it
[06:16] <bob2> kalias: maybe try searching the wiki or asking on the mailing list
[06:16] <kalias> bob2: oh, bummer. I will take a look.
[06:16] <bob2> filosof: run the command I gave you
[06:17] <levander`> damn, there were too many updates around the time i last updated my system, even though I only updated four, there are a *lot* that were updated around that time
[06:18] <holycow> what package contains the alsa daemon that puts the startup script in init.d dir?
[06:18] <bob2> kalias: yes, not showing up in lspci means it's not a pci card, which means lspci won't detect it ;)
[06:18] <levander`> am guessing they froze stuff for the hoary release, then when the freeze was lifted, everybody checked in all the shit they had developed in the mean time
[06:19] <bob2> levander`: er, you're using breezy?
[06:19] <synd> is there any way to run Mac apps on linux?
[06:19] <levander`> bob2: no, hoary
[06:19] <kalias> bob2: hmm..I see.  I found something on the wiki but there is nothing entered under isa soundcards.  Do we have a wiz on the irc?
[06:19] <bob2> levander`: since release, hoary has only had security udpates added
[06:19] <levander`> bob2: i do real work on my system, don't wanna make a hobby of beta testing
[06:19] <userx1> how to clear the Print Jobs in the command line? Coz If I will cancel it thru Printers window, the Window will just hang-up.
[06:19] <bob2> synd: it's called "mol"
[06:20] <filosof>  bob2  it's give me error "E: Unable to find a source package for php"
[06:20] <synd> bob2: mol? google it, i shall?
[06:20] <levander`> bob2: exactly, and I wanna make sure those security updates installed correctly, my system went down becuase of power outage, and I don't remember how long before the power outage I told it to update
[06:20] <bob2> synd: apt-cache search mac-on-linux
[06:20] <synd> bob2: ah, thx
[06:20] <bob2> levander`: I'd think a hard shutdown is way more likely to cause problems than the security updates
[06:20] <thoreauputic> bob2: /etc/rc2.d/ appears not to have any evms entries.. have I missed something?
[06:20] <holycow> why does removing alsa-base remove gdm?
[06:20] <holycow> i don't get this
[06:21] <levander`> bob2: well, i don't see any problems, have checked syslog, but just want to make sure those security updates went in okay
[06:21] <bob2> filosof: sudo apt-get build-dep php4
[06:21] <bob2> levander`: ok
[06:21] <synd> bob2: nothing came up?
[06:21] <levander`> does dpkg even have a way to verify package installs? I remember rpm had an option to verify every installed package on the system, even though I never bothered to figure out what the output meant
[06:21] <bob2> thoreauputic: hrm, interesting
[06:22] <bob2> synd: are you on ppc?
[06:22] <bob2> levander`: debsumbs
[06:22] <bob2> holycow: maybe because gdm wants to make noises early on
[06:22] <synd> bob2: x86. ppc required, eh?
[06:22] <kalias> exit
[06:22] <holycow> thats retarded, now you cant remove alsa without removing gdm
[06:22] <holycow> *grrr*
[06:23] <bob2> synd: of course, it's like vmware but less hacky
[06:23] <bob2> synd: try qemu, but you'll need to go buy a mac os x dvd
[06:23] <dooglus> levander`: "debsums"
[06:23] <bob2> holycow: why do you want to touch alsa-base, anyway?
[06:23] <userx1> how to clear the Print Jobs in the command line? Coz If I will cancel it thru Printers window, the Window will just hang-up and no cancellation happen.
[06:23] <thoreauputic> bob2: there's an evms.conf in /etc ...
[06:23] <holycow> bob2, it pumps a very very high pitched noise through my speakers, its borked
[06:23] <levander`> anybody know what package debsumbs is in?
[06:23] <holycow> when i stop alsa it goes away
[06:24] <bob2> levander`: debsums
[06:24] <bob2> holycow: ouch
[06:24] <levander`> bob2: got it, thanks
[06:24] <holycow> reinstalling it along with gdm didn't work
[06:24] <holycow> *grrr*
[06:24] <GNULinuxer> what is the alternative for chkconfig [Redhat ]  in Ubuntu? I want some services to run at startup and some not
[06:26] <jamesm> GNULinuxer update-rc.d
[06:26] <userx1> :(
[06:26] <GNULinuxer> jamesm, what is the syntax ? any man page?
[06:27] <jamesm> GNULinuxer, there should be
[06:27] <levander`> bob2: thanks, that seems be working, although a *lot* of output that isn't really errors, and a lot of people are apparently making packages with md5sum files...
[06:27] <jamesm> GNULinuxer, i wrote a wiki on linuxquestions.org about this
[06:28] <GNULinuxer> jamesm, the link?
[06:28] <johnnybezak> bob2: ive got to put an .iso on the usb stick to, do i need to dd that unit as well
[06:28] <synd> bob2: say i had ubuntu ppc and had MOL running on top of that. would that enable the airport express card ?
[06:28] <thoreauputic> bob2: anything I could grep for in dmesg?  dmesg | grep -i evms or enterprise comes up empty as well.. :/
[06:29] <bob2> levander`: yes, it's a shame
[06:29] <thoreauputic> synd: no, unfortunately
[06:29] <bob2> synd: no
[06:29] <synd> :/
[06:30] <levander`> bob2: oh, meant *without* md5sum files
[06:30] <seth_k> would anyone mind testing a gdesklets backport for hoary before I release it onto the unsuspecting public? I just want to make sure there are no showstopper errors
[06:30] <bob2> erk
[06:30] <xero> i have alwayshad gdesklets problems
[06:30] <synd> gkrellm for me
[06:30] <xero> however trhey have to do with actually loading a gdesklet and not hte program itself i think
[06:30] <JohnnyQuest> how do i open a txt file and edit it in the terminal?
[06:31] <synd> xero: ive had the same problems
[06:31] <bob2> JohnnyQuest: sudo nano /blah
[06:31] <xero> nano filename
[06:31] <JohnnyQuest> anything other than nano?
[06:31] <zero-one> hi... how can i get permission to modify the etc folder?
[06:31] <thoreauputic> OK - I guess I'll see if I can find an older Hoary kernel in the archive.... this one seems not to like me
[06:31] <seth_k> nooo JohnnyQuest, usue vi! :P
[06:31] <JohnnyQuest> bi?
[06:31] <xero> vi
[06:31] <JohnnyQuest> vi>?
[06:31] <levander`> thoreauputic: have you tried booting your system by not having whatever /etc/init.d script run that starts enterprise volume management?  I don't know exactly what that service does.
[06:31] <JohnnyQuest> ok
[06:31] <bob2> JohnnyQuest: use nano
[06:31] <JohnnyQuest> sudo vi filename?
[06:31] <JohnnyQuest> ive had problems with nano...
[06:31] <seth_k> hehe. you'll want to use nano if you're not used to console editing
[06:31] <xero> yeah but vi can be quite confusing for someone who has never used it before
[06:31] <JohnnyQuest> i do not have a gui interphase anymore
[06:31] <bob2> thoreauputic: I don't know where it's starting
[06:31] <seth_k> vi forever though
[06:31] <xero> what problems w/ nano?!
[06:32] <levander`> JohnnyQuest: you'll have more problems with vi if couldn't get nano to work
[06:32] <JohnnyQuest> ok..
[06:32] <seth_k> true that
[06:32] <bob2> xero: it's a terribly spartan editor
[06:32] <JohnnyQuest> i edited a file and now i dont have a gui interphase...
[06:32] <thoreauputic> levander`: that was bob2 's suggestion - but it appears not to exist in the /etc/rc2.d dir
[06:32] <levander`> thoreauputic: lemme check here
[06:32] <xero> nano is all done w/out a gui
[06:33] <JohnnyQuest> ya i kno
[06:33] <dooglus> anyone familiar with 'aptitude', as opposed to 'apt-get'?
[06:33] <JohnnyQuest> but, i used it, rebooted, i idnt have a gui anymore
[06:33] <cthulfuego> dooglus: They work pretty much identically.
[06:33] <madsen> JohnnyQuest: I think it's more interesting to know what file you edited.
[06:33] <zero-one> I want to get permission to modify a file at /etc folder... how can i do it?
[06:33] <dooglus> cthulfuego: that's what I thought.  but:  http://rafb.net/paste/results/Kctn7x61.html
[06:33] <seth_k> dooglus: syntax is pretty much identical
[06:33] <xero> JohnnyQuest: you mean u did something to screw up gnome?
[06:33] <madsen> zero-one: sudo <command to run>
[06:33] <david> who here likes windows?
[06:33] <xero> johnnyquest: try restarting gdm?
[06:33] <JohnnyQuest> ya
[06:34] <xero> screw m$
[06:34] <dooglus> cthulfuego: why does aptitude think I should install defendguin?  I've removed it, and don't want it back.
[06:34] <JohnnyQuest> i did something to screw up gnome
[06:34] <JohnnyQuest> it fails when booting
[06:34] <xero> what were your editing?
[06:34] <JohnnyQuest> i edited ld.so.conf
[06:34] <cthulfuego> dooglus: Its depend handling is still a tad buggy afaik.
[06:34] <zero-one> madsen, but how can i do it using gnome, not via a term
[06:34] <levander`> thoreauputic: are you sure the message before freezing wasn't: "Setting up LVM Volume Groups..."
[06:34] <xero> i dont know what that is... hmm
[06:34] <madsen> zero-one: Oh, hang on a sec.
[06:34] <JohnnyQuest> maybe that wasnt the cause..
[06:34] <zero-one> madsen, ok
[06:34] <xero> restart gdm
[06:34] <thoreauputic> levander`: positive
[06:34] <sproingie> how do i find what .deb package a particular file is in?
[06:34] <xero> /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[06:34] <bob2> sproingie: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[06:35] <dooglus> sproingie: apt-file search
[06:35] <madsen> zero-one: Applications -> System Tools -> Run as a different user...
[06:35] <madsen> zero-one: Then type e.g. 'gedit' and run it as root.
[06:35] <JohnnyQuest> how do i restart gdm?
[06:35] <thoreauputic> levander`: it times out, then I get a message like "lost interrupt on hdc "
[06:35] <josemi> /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[06:35] <dooglus> JohnnyQuest: /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[06:35] <madsen> JohnnyQuest: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[06:35] <josemi> lol
[06:35] <madsen> hehe
[06:35] <josemi> so I win
[06:35] <thoreauputic> and it freezes (well, it hangs)
[06:35] <josemi> xD
[06:36] <xero> JohnnyQuest: /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[06:36] <madsen> josemi: Well, if he's not 'root', then you don't.
[06:36] <JohnnyQuest> i got a fail
[06:36] <dooglus> josemi: no, madsen wins for getting the 'sudo' in there too
[06:36] <levander`> thoreauputic: what is your default run level in /etc/inittab?
[06:36] <JohnnyQuest> starting gnome display manager... fail
[06:36] <xero> were you doing anything w/ your xorg.conf file at all?
[06:36] <josemi> xD ok ok
[06:36] <JohnnyQuest> no
[06:36] <JohnnyQuest> i only touched that one file...
[06:36] <madsen> JohnnyQuest: What does the logfiles say?
[06:36] <thoreauputic> levander`: 2 - quite normal
[06:36] <xero> what dir was that in? and what does it do?
[06:37] <JohnnyQuest> logfiles? i donte ven know how to cehck those...
[06:37] <madsen> JohnnyQuest: sudo tail -100 /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:37] <JohnnyQuest> im just gonna reinstall unbuntu and start from scratch
[06:37] <madsen> JohnnyQuest: Bad idea, just fix the problem.
[06:37] <josemi> JohnnyQuest: is highly recommended you try to repair the system by yourself
[06:37] <JohnnyQuest> ok
[06:37] <josemi> and take some practice
[06:37] <JohnnyQuest> i installed it 2 days ago..
[06:37] <josemi> by understanfing how it works
[06:38] <josemi> f-d
[06:38] <zero-one> madsen, the system says the password is wrong (but its right
[06:38] <madsen> JohnnyQuest: Try: sudo tail -250 /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE
[06:38] <vinux> Wow It was so easy to set up my printer in gnome!
[06:38] <levander`> thoreauputic: your hdc is hard drive or cd drive?
[06:38] <Santa|xChat> Ah..finally it's working. Thanks everyone who helped me earlier. =)
[06:38] <JohnnyQuest> that didnt wrok
[06:38] <JohnnyQuest> that command
[06:38] <thoreauputic> levander`: CD
[06:38] <thoreauputic> CD-RW
[06:38] <JohnnyQuest> i got it to wokr now..
[06:38] <levander`> thoreauputic: it may have gone bad, i got similar messages when my cd drive went bad not long ago
[06:38] <levander`> thoreauputic: you've ever been inside that computer?
[06:39] <madsen> zero-one: Uh, if it contains any special chars (something not a-z 0-9) then gksu (the program asking you to give the password) might not work. :-/
[06:39] <JohnnyQuest> what am i looking for in these errors?
[06:39] <madsen> zero-one: Try opening a terminal and type 'sudo gedit' instead.
[06:39] <thoreauputic> levander`: hmm - well it boots perfectly in warty (/dev/hda5 )
[06:39] <madsen> JohnnyQuest: Something that gives you a hint of what's failing.
[06:39] <Adrian|> Hey I heard something about a special version of Starcraft made for Ubuntu, can anybody give me info on that?
[06:39] <thoreauputic> levander`: it's only Hoary that causes problems
[06:39] <thechitowncubs> hey, how can i install a metacity theme w/out using the theme app? is there a config file somewhere that i can edit
[06:40] <JohnnyQuest> font renderer is all i got...
[06:40] <userx1> Starting DHCP server: dhcpd failed to start - check syslog for diagnostics. - <--- which Directory I can find the "syslog" ?
[06:40] <zero-one> madsen, ok! gedit open!
[06:40] <madsen> JohnnyQuest: You can also just 'sudo tail -250 /var/log/Xorg.0.log' and see if there's anything interesting going on.
[06:40] <userx1> whats the problem why it failed?
[06:40] <madsen> zero-one: :)
[06:40] <thoreauputic> levander`: the only thing I've done in the box is put in an extra stick of ram about 3 weeks ago
[06:40] <levander`> thoreauputic: can you check /var/log/syslog on your warty install to see if there are any errors related to hdc in it?
[06:40] <userx1> Firestarter is currently running....
[06:40] <thechitowncubs> Where is the config file for themes?
[06:40] <thoreauputic> levander`: OK - I'll have to reboot - dual boot here
[06:40] <JohnnyQuest> scan your fram lavender
[06:40] <JohnnyQuest> ram*
[06:41] <JohnnyQuest> ram can go bad
[06:41] <zero-one> madsen,now i create the file and can i save it at /etc folder?
[06:41] <levander`> thoreauputic: what OS are you on now?
[06:41] <thoreauputic> back soon I guess
[06:41] <JohnnyQuest> and it will give you lots of errors
[06:41] <madsen> zero-one: What file did you want to edit?
[06:41] <JohnnyQuest> levender: memtest86
[06:41] <thoreauputic> levander`: hoary with a warty kernel that doesn't work very well ;)
[06:41] <zero-one> lilo.conf
[06:41] <levander`> thoreauputic: can't you just mount the drive that has the warty /var partition on it?
[06:42] <madsen> zero-one: From the gedit with root privileges you can open/save to any file on the system, so be careful what you do.
[06:42] <zero-one> madsen: ok
[06:42] <JohnnyQuest> how do i scroll up in my terminal?
[06:42] <madsen> zero-one: Well, if you're done editing the file, then you should just save it. (Have you saved a working backup of lilo.conf?)
[06:42] <thoreauputic> levander`: doh - sorry I'm not thinking very clearly - yes of course thanks
[06:42] <josemi> avPag + RePag
[06:42] <levander`> thoreauputic: i'm gonna getta smoke, but search for both the terms "atapi" and "hdc"
[06:43] <madsen> zero-one: Remember, for the changes to take effect, run 'sudo lilo' after editing lilo.conf.
[06:43] <thoreauputic> OK
[06:43] <thoreauputic> thanks levander`
[06:43] <madsen> Aw, crap!
[06:43] <thechitowncubs> Anyone :/
[06:43] <madsen> I left my cola in front of my CPU fan and now it's all warm! :(
[06:43] <thechitowncubs> I hate to interrupt :)
[06:43] <seth_k> nobody adventurous tonight eh.
[06:43] <JohnnyQuest> what does this mean? could not init fount path element unix/:6100; removing from list!
[06:43] <JohnnyQuest> there are some typos in there...
[06:44] <seth_k> JohnnyQuest: don't worry about it. no local font server running
[06:44] <JohnnyQuest> ok
[06:44] <madsen> JohnnyQuest: It just means that there's no font server running. It's not a problem really.
[06:44] <seth_k> JohnnyQuest, but it doesn't hurt anything staying in xorg.conf all nice and happy
[06:44] <madsen> Oh. Too slow again.
[06:44] <seth_k> :D
[06:44] <seth_k> can I have a brownie?
[06:44] <JohnnyQuest> how do i scroll up in my terminal?
[06:44] <madsen> JohnnyQuest: Shift+PageUp
[06:45] <seth_k> w00t
[06:45] <zero-one> madsen: ok... im doing what you're saying
[06:45] <JohnnyQuest> drmOpenDevice: Open failed
[06:45] <JohnnyQuest> that anything?
[06:45] <madsen> JohnnyQuest: You might want to use 'less' for reading long output in a terminal.   tail -250 /bla/bla/bla | less
[06:45] <levander`> thoreauputic: find anything??
[06:45] <madsen> zero-one: :) I hope it works out well then. :)
[06:45] <david> whats the alt-tab equivalant in linux?
[06:46] <seth_k> david: alt-tab still...
[06:46] <thoreauputic> levander`: several lines for atapi
[06:46] <david> hah ur right thanks
[06:46] <JohnnyQuest> im not finding a thing...
[06:46] <thoreauputic> levander`: hang on - grepping for hdc
[06:46] <ubu> remember that if you use less, you can use the '/' to search...
[06:46] <levander`> thoreauputic: are they errors?
[06:46] <madsen> JohnnyQuest: No errors at all? (Marked with "(EE)".)
[06:47] <thoreauputic> levander`: the atapi ones look OK to me...
[06:47] <JohnnyQuest> nothing marked with EE
[06:47] <madsen> JohnnyQuest: Hmm... Perhaps Xorg isn't the thing failing then... Perhaps GDM is... (?)
[06:47] <levander`> thoreauputic: i'd look at the lines before and after where the term atapi comes up, not just with grep
[06:47] <JohnnyQuest> it said gnome was failing while booting...
[06:48] <dennis> hello
[06:48] <thoreauputic> levander`: right - i'm seeing "lost interrupt quite a bit here
[06:48] <thoreauputic> with "hdc"
[06:48] <dennis> ANyone know how to handle file names that are longer than 8 characters and or have spaces in them?
[06:48] <madsen> JohnnyQuest: Try checking out the logfile /var/log/gdm/:0.log
[06:48] <seth_k> dennis: tab completion is your friend
[06:48] <levander`> thoreauputic: could be bad cd drive thoreauputic
[06:48] <dennis> ?
[06:48] <thoreauputic> levander`: like Jun 13 11:32:00 localhost kernel: hdc: lost interrupt
[06:48] <dennis> Huh?
[06:48] <madsen> JohnnyQuest: GDM = GNOME Display Manager
[06:48] <thoreauputic> levander`: :(
[06:49] <dennis> seth_k, what?
[06:49] <thoreauputic> I guess it might be
[06:49] <dennis> Like I'm running cedega....
[06:49] <dennis> and it can't find it because Program Files has a space
[06:49] <levander`> thoreauputic: that's what started happening to me for a few months before my CD drive just died, i wasted a lot of time trying to fix
[06:49] <zero-one> madsen: iam going test it now... bye
[06:49] <seth_k> dennis, type Prog[TAB] 
[06:49] <levander`> thoreauputic: brand new DVD R/W drives are only $50 these days
[06:49] <thoreauputic> levander`: but in that case would warty be OK (It is)
[06:49] <seth_k> where [TAB]  is the tab key, not the letters
[06:49] <seth_k> it will auto-complete
[06:49] <madsen> Why the hell does Xorg.0.log tell me that COMPOSITE is loaded, when xcompmgr tells me it's not?!?
[06:49] <levander`> thoreauputic: with hardware failures, sometimes at first you get intermittent stuff
[06:50] <thoreauputic> yes, right
[06:50] <seth_k> madsen, maybe it tries to load and fails?
[06:50] <thechitowncubs> Why is ogg playback so slow in Totem-xine?
[06:50] <madsen> seth_k: It doesn't show anything about failing in the log.
[06:50] <thechitowncubs> Ogg Theora...
[06:50] <levander`> thoreauputic: i bet you don't use your CD drive a lot, and just never noticed it flakes out some times, until something in hoary tries to use it on boot
[06:50] <thoreauputic> levander`: well, I'll see what happens - at least I have aworkable system and a laptop here
[06:51] <thoreauputic> levander`: thanks for the help :)
[06:51] <levander`> thoreauputic: i'm guessing of course, but just something is using the cd drive more on boot in hoary
[06:51] <thoreauputic> levander`: OK - could be
[06:51] <madsen> seth_k: Only error I get is about PreInit failing for "Synaptics Touchpad" which I don't even have...
[06:51] <levander`> thoreauputic: try to get other people to check their syslog and see if there are any lost interrupt messages in there
[06:51] <Madpilot> hi all. how do I get ubuntu to tell me what it's calling my two CD drives?
[06:51] <xero> levander': yeah why does ur cdrom drive fail? ive had a few fail on me when installing ubuntu
[06:51] <madsen> (II) Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE
[06:52] <levander`> thoreauputic: have you tried mkinitrd to remake an initrd image?  that was one of the things I tried to get my CD back up and working, it seemed to work for awhile.
[06:52] <seth_k> Madpilot, look in /media first off
[06:52] <bob2> Madpilot: ls /dev/cd*
[06:52] <Matthew_W> Anyone know how to get my sound to be reasonably audible?  -- the problem is... it's incoherently quiet, and my comp thinks the sound is coming from the headphones...
[06:52] <seth_k> Madpilot, usually /media/cdrom0 and /media/cdrom1
[06:52] <thoreauputic> levander`: no, this just happened an hour or two ago
[06:52] <xero> matthew_W: sudo alsamixer
[06:53] <levander`> thoreauputic: i'd google "mkinitrd cd" some
[06:53] <thoreauputic> levander`: OK
[06:53] <Matthew_W> xero:  all this does is let me change the volume levels, and again, the only one that changes is headphones.
[06:53] <ubu> Matthew_W, paste the output from ,,cat /proc/asound/cards'' and ,,amixer'' onto pastebin
[06:53] <levander`> also, there's gotta be a way to figure out what in /etc/rc2.d or elsewhere is starting the /etc/init.d/evms script
[06:53] <Madpilot> seth_k, bob2: it seems to list three drives - cdrom, cdrom0, cdrw -- but I only have two? odd
[06:54] <bob2> Madpilot: cdrom will point at one of the others
[06:54] <seth_k> Madpilot, my guess is cdrom -> cdrom0
[06:54] <seth_k> oops, beaten
[06:54] <Matthew_W> ubu:  explain pastebin
[06:54] <JohnnyQuest> i didnt find aynthign in that log..
[06:54] <ubu> Matthew_W, it's just a web site used for diagnostic purposes
[06:54] <seth_k> Matthew_W: http://pastebin.ca
[06:54] <madsen> JohnnyQuest: Odd...
[06:54] <x_or> Is there a sound configuration utility for Hoary?  alsaconf is not installed, and apt-cache search shows nothing.
[06:55] <JohnnyQuest> that log had the same stuff as the other log
[06:55] <ubu> x_or, alsaconf was removed from Ubuntu's alsa-utils
[06:55] <bob2> x_or: what do you need to configure?
[06:55] <madsen> JohnnyQuest: Nothing useful is output when you try: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart ?
[06:55] <Madpilot> bob2, seth_k: thnx. still trying to get a grip on how linux deals with drives & stuff...
[06:55] <x_or> Well, I have a new sound card, m-audio type, so I figured alsaconf was the easiest way to do this.
[06:55] <Matthew_W> ubu:  http://pastebin.ca/14221
[06:55] <JohnnyQuest> it just restarts and tells me gnome display manager failed
[06:55] <JohnnyQuest> everything else is ok
[06:55] <seth_k> Madpilot, np. Everything's a directory in Linux. Kinda weird, but useful after awhile
[06:55] <bob2> x_or: if it replaced the old one, then the correct module will be loaded on boot
[06:55] <seth_k> no more c:\
[06:56] <Juhaz> hoary installer can't resize fat32, right?
[06:56] <madsen> JohnnyQuest: Odd.
[06:56] <Matthew_W> ubu:  let me know if any of this makes sense :P
[06:56] <x_or> No, there is an on-board chip, and this is a pci card.
[06:56] <JohnnyQuest> im going to reinstall because, i have alot of problems iwth that install
[06:56] <Madpilot> seth_k: also trying to get used to drives not appearing if there isn't anything in them...
[06:56] <madsen> JohnnyQuest: Nothing on Ctrl-Alt-F7?
[06:56] <bob2> x_or: cool, then you shouldn't need to do anything at all
[06:56] <JohnnyQuest> nothin
[06:56] <madsen> JohnnyQuest: Reinstalls are for windows.
[06:56] <JohnnyQuest> ya i know
[06:56] <Hhhhh> hello
[06:56] <JohnnyQuest> but, when i was installing packages
[06:56] <x_or> bob2:  How do I tell if the proper module is loaded, and use the card?
[06:57] <JohnnyQuest> the archive i was using wasnt woirking
[06:57] <madsen> JohnnyQuest: Chances are that you'll end up with the same problems if you do the same stuff.
[06:57] <JohnnyQuest> so packages got partialy installed
[06:57] <JohnnyQuest> well im gonna do different stuff
[06:57] <madsen> JohnnyQuest: Oh, bugger...
[06:57] <JohnnyQuest> ya
[06:57] <JohnnyQuest> this time
[06:57] <levander`> anybody try mythtv on ubuntu? am wondering how easy to configure
[06:57] <JohnnyQuest> ill change teh archieve
[06:57] <madsen> JohnnyQuest: Well, you could try 'apt-get install -f'
[06:57] <JohnnyQuest> thtats wat imd oing levander
[06:57] <bob2> x_or: look at the output of dmesg, I guess
[06:57] <xero> levander': i tried to install it once and got a bunch of errors and never tried it agian
[06:57] <Hhhhh> questions about Ubuntu 5.04: does it ship with KDE? any special strengths and weaknesses of Ubuntu? I'm installing it right now as we talk
[06:57] <JohnnyQuest> im installing it levander
[06:57] <JohnnyQuest> i got knoppmyth to wokr
[06:58] <levander`> JohnnyQuest: it's going okay?
[06:58] <JohnnyQuest> im in here talking about problems
[06:58] <JohnnyQuest> (im new to linux)
[06:58] <ubu> Hhhhh, you can use kubuntu-desktop
[06:58] <madsen> JohnnyQuest: Change the archives, run 'sudo apt-get update' and then run 'sudo apt-get install -f' - see if that fixes the partially installed packages and stuff.
[06:58] <levander`> JohnnyQuest: so you're not installing via the ubuntu repositories?
[06:58] <Matthew_W> ubu:  any ideas...?
[06:58] <ubu> Hhhhh, see #kubuntu
[06:58] <levander`> JohnnyQuest: starting Linux with mythtv is *brave*
[06:58] <ubu> Matthew_W, hold
[06:58] <JohnnyQuest> im installing ubuntu via the cd rom...
[06:58] <JohnnyQuest> ?
[06:58] <Matthew_W> ubu:  sure.
[06:58] <Fr0Gs> hey all i have installed a graphics binary from ATI and its worst how can i remove it
[06:59] <JohnnyQuest> ok madsen
[06:59] <kvidell> JohnnyQuest: Lav means are you installing MythTV from the repos?
[06:59] <JohnnyQuest> ill try taht and see if that helps
[06:59] <madsen> JohnnyQuest: Use the official archives from Ubuntu.
[06:59] <JohnnyQuest> im installing mythtv from the cvs..
[06:59] <Fr0Gs> hey all i have installed a graphics binary from ATI and its worst how can i remove it
[06:59] <liable> Fr0Gs: a .deb package?
[06:59] <Fr0Gs> its froma  .run script
[06:59] <Fr0Gs> from ati
[06:59] <madsen> Ok, now for MY problem... Drop shadows...
[06:59] <xero> damn cable grrr
[06:59] <ubu> Matthew_W, please mute IEC958 and Capture
[06:59] <levander`> JohnnyQuest: are you sure if you install mythtv via knoppmyth that your supposed to install ubuntu first?
[06:59] <Hhhhh> udu: thanks, I'll look into that, I think Gnome is fine for now. Any special strengths and weaknesses of Ubuntu? I come from a Red Hat/Fedora/SuSE perspective, but I decided to try a new distro for a change
[07:00] <Matthew_W> ubu:  okay... how do I go about doing that?
[07:00] <JohnnyQuest> no
[07:00] <JohnnyQuest> i installed knoppmyth before
[07:00] <JohnnyQuest> i didnt like it
[07:00] <JohnnyQuest> so now im doing mythtv through ubuntu
[07:00] <kvidell> I'd use Gentoo or Slackware for a myth box
[07:00] <kvidell> then again it would be solely a myth box
[07:00] <ubu> Matthew_W, amixer sset 'IEC958' off ; amixer sset 'Capture' off
[07:00] <levander`> kvidell: why those distros?
[07:01] <kvidell> levander: light weight
[07:01] <kvidell> much much lighter than ubuntu
[07:01] <kvidell> harder to get going sometimes, sure, but they're very lightweight
[07:01] <JohnnyQuest> arnt they harder to use?
[07:01] <Fr0Gs> hey all i have installed a graphics binary from ATI and its worst how can i remove it
[07:01] <xero> i just tried installing mythtv and i had problems installing it
[07:01] <kvidell> yes, but I'm not here because ubuntu's easy to use :)
[07:01] <JohnnyQuest> i cant barely use ubuntu...
[07:01] <xero> said it couldnt get files
[07:01] <Matthew_W> bob2:  when I did that it returned   Front Left: Capture 0 [0%]  [on] 
[07:02] <kvidell> I don't use ubuntu because it's easy... infact I only use ubuntu for laptops.
[07:02] <JohnnyQuest> well im reinstalling this time, maybe next time ill fix errors
[07:02] <kvidell> I use it because it's stable and works well on laptops.
[07:02] <JohnnyQuest> is it stable enough for a myth box?
[07:02] <duken> hi bob
[07:02] <ubu> JohnnyQuest, yes.
[07:02] <kvidell> JohnnyQuest: Is what stable enough for it? Ubuntu? Yes.
[07:02] <Matthew_W> ubu:  when i did that it returned   Front Left: Capture 0 [0%]  [on] 
[07:02] <duken> i was run debmirror
[07:02] <Ben_Babcock> I've just installed Ubuntu and it said it had to boot back into Ubuntu to finish the installation.  However, upon rebooting the screen has gone blank.  Should I just wait, or do I need to reboot again?
[07:02] <duken> but i have trouble
[07:03] <duken> [0%]  Getting: dists/hoary/universe/binary-i386/Release   #
[07:03] <duken> Failed to download some Package, Sources, Contents or release files!
[07:03] <duken> releasing 1 pending lock... at /usr/lib/perl5/LockFile/Simple.pm line 182.
[07:03] <levander`> JohnnyQuest: you know i think there's a #myth or #mythtv channel
[07:03] <kvidell> Anything is. It's that if I had a Myth box I'd want ONLY myth on it.
[07:03] <duken> why ?
[07:03] <ubu> Matthew_W, ok, that's fine.
[07:03] <kvidell> so I wouldn't need all the other stuff.... just myth.
[07:03] <JohnnyQuest> there is
[07:03] <ubu> duken, which mirror are you using? See the topic.
[07:03] <JohnnyQuest> im in it
[07:03] <JohnnyQuest> its #mythtv-users
[07:03] <Matthew_W> ubu:  Now?  (oh, and if I turn capture off.. will my mic still work?  God I'm a nub... lol)
[07:03] <ubu> Matthew_W, I presume you muted IEC958 (the spdif output)
[07:03] <JohnnyQuest> im just having ubuntu probs
[07:03] <JohnnyQuest> not myth probs
[07:04] <Matthew_W> ubu:  I typed into a terminal exactly what you put.  (in 2 lines, with sudo preceding it.)
[07:04] <ubu> Matthew_W, you wanted Capture _on_? Why didn't you say so?
[07:04] <Matthew_W> ubu:  because I don't know what Capture is  lol
[07:04] <ubu> Matthew_W, no need for sudo. Your default $USER has sufficient privileges to access those controls.
[07:04] <ubu> Matthew_W, it's fairly self-explanatory: it's the toggle for recording something. :)
[07:04] <Matthew_W> ubu:  I guessed that afterward.  lol
[07:04] <duken> ubuntulog, au.archive.ubuntu.com and archive.ubuntu.co,
[07:04] <ubu> Matthew_W, of course then you also have to select _what_ you want to record.
[07:04] <duken> ubuntulog, au.archive.ubuntu.com and archive.ubuntu.com
[07:05] <Matthew_W> ubu:  Just incase I want to use Skype, or something.
[07:05] <david> why dont i have sound when playing games??
[07:05] <duken> ubu, ubuntu, au.archive.ubuntu.com and archive.ubuntu.com
[07:05] <dr_willis> perhaps you have the volume muted.
[07:05] <david> neg i got volume up
[07:05] <Matthew_W> ubu:  So, now that I've done this, the sound is still incoherently quiet, are there any other steps? (it still thinks I'm using headphones)
[07:06] <Fr0Gs> hey all i have installed a graphics binary from ATI and its worst how can i remove it
[07:06] <Fr0Gs> hey all i have installed a graphics binary from ATI and its worst how can i remove it
[07:06] <Fr0Gs> i need help
[07:06] <zero-one> Madsen: yes4!!!! problem fixed!!! everything running ok!
[07:06] <kvidell> Fr0Gs: We saw it the first time :) If no one answers it's likely no one knows and Professor Google becomes your new best friend.
[07:07] <Fr0Gs> damn it
[07:07] <kvidell> However, if it's something you installed using apt-get, then try apt-get remove package
[07:07] <Fr0Gs> is it possible to remove it
[07:07] <kvidell> I don't know.
[07:07] <ubu> Matthew_W, are you using amixer or alsamixer to adjust the volume?
[07:07] <kvidell> How did you install it in the first place?
[07:08] <kvidell> reverse engineering DOES work for a lot of things.
[07:08] <Matthew_W> ubu:  alsamixer.  amixer I just used to return all of those things you wanted pasted.  Basically, this program happens on all operating systems I've had on this laptop other than windoze.
[07:08] <Matthew_W> ubu:  ... and I've never fixed it.  lol.
[07:08] <ubu> Matthew_W, program->problem?
[07:09] <Matthew_W> ubu:  problem, yes.
[07:09] <Matthew_W> ubu:  2:30 - no sleep - no caffeine.  lol
[07:10] <zero-one> everything working
[07:11] <thoreauputic> levander`: bob2; I might have found an answer - cd-rom would not mount, then i checked /var/log/syslog and saw errors "DMA timeout" so i edited /etc/hdparm.conf and added '  interrupt_unmask = on' and now it's mounting...
[07:11] <BROKEN_LADDER> does anyone know what the amber light means on a router, as opposed to green?
[07:11] <zero-one> I would like say THANK YOU to everyone... My windows and my ubuntu are running BETTER THAN EVER! THANKS!!!!
[07:12] <nalioth_wrkn> BROKEN_LADDER: depends on the model
[07:12] <madsen> zero-one: Great! :)
[07:12] <BROKEN_LADDER> my sip phone is connected but the router shows it as amber, not green.
[07:12] <Matthew_W> ubu:  One of the only 2 problems I have ever had with linux
[07:12] <BROKEN_LADDER> i don't know what the sip phone could be doing weird..it's working fine.
[07:12] <ubuntu_phil> does anyone know if prism3 chipset cards will work with packet injection progs like aireplay?
[07:12] <madsen> zero-one: Glad that it worked out well. :)
[07:12] <zero-one> yes...
[07:13] <ubu> Matthew_W, what motherboard do you have?
[07:13] <ubuntu_phil> zero-one, was that "yes" addressed to me?
[07:13] <madsen> And I found out that the changes for drop-shadows should be applied to xorg.conf and NOT XF86Config-4... DOH!
[07:13] <caonex> while trying to install a kernel image with apt-get i get an error indicating that my grub does not support initrd, what is suppose to be done here?
[07:13] <madsen> ubuntu_phil: I think it was for me. :)
[07:13] <zero-one> madsen: yes
[07:14] <zero-one> no phil... yes was for madsen
[07:14] <ubuntu_phil> ok thanks
[07:14] <Matthew_W> ubu:  uh... I'm not entirely sure.  It's an ACER aspire 3500... I don't really know laptop hardware well at all.  It's an intel chipset...
[07:14] <zero-one> So, if there's brazilian user with dual boot problems should see this site
[07:14] <zero-one> http://www.vivaolinux.com.br/artigos/verArtigo.php?codigo=1271&pagina=5
[07:15] <david> my games are really laggy can someone help me?
[07:15] <caonex> /usr/sbin/mkinitrd: Cannot determine root device ??
[07:16] <zero-one> There, brazilian users - or from other countries with some determination ;-) -  with dual boot problems with lilo or grub can find very good info.
[07:16] <zero-one> http://www.vivaolinux.com.br/artigos/verArtigo.php?codigo=1271&pagina=5
[07:17] <ubu> Matthew_W, does adjusting the Master control actually change the Headphones?
[07:17] <xero> i have had major dualbooting problems on my laptop
[07:17] <xero> with ANY linux distro and windows
[07:17] <zero-one> thanks every one and good night
[07:17] <ubu> Matthew_W, and are you actually using the Headphones jack?
[07:17] <xero> i gave up and just run ubuntu now :-)
[07:17] <Matthew_W> ubu:  No, the master does nothing.  I didn't even know I had a headphones jack... so no.  lol.
[07:18] <nomasteryoda> xero, good for u
[07:19] <Matthew_W> ubu:  Although when I do use the headphones, they're not deafening, but they're not nearly as quiet.
[07:20] <raz> Trying to compile the mplayer mozilla plugins. Stuck at this command, help would be appreciated: ./configure --with-gecko-sdk=/home/username/work/gecko-sdk  ... [one of]  the error i get is:  Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[07:20] <ubu> Matthew_W, so mute the Headphones control (press 'm' in alsamixer) and increase the Master
[07:20] <Matthew_W> ubu:  actually, they're still kind of quiet even in the headphones...
[07:20] <Matthew_W> ubu: I'll try that.
[07:21] <caonex> i have grub configured with the kernel image and initrd.img that are bundled with ubuntu; however, when i try to boot i get an error with initrd. How can i installed or whatever to grub?
[07:21] <Matthew_W> ubu:  Now there is -no- sound.
[07:21] <caonex> i have the right line as initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.5.10-5-386
[07:21] <Matthew_W> ubu: lol
[07:21] <flodine> how do you free memory on ubuntu
[07:21] <ubu> Matthew_W, ok, then you need to just control the Headphones jack
[07:22] <Matthew_W> ubu:  explain further?
[07:22] <ubu> flodine, you don't do that manually. Linux (the kernel) does that for you.
[07:22] <ubu> Matthew_W, just adjust the Headphones (unmute it)
[07:23] <Matthew_W> ubu:  but therein lies the problem, even on 100% headphone volume, and 100% beep media player volume, the sound is still incredibly quiet, with 10% the quality it should have, etc.
[07:24] <ubu> Matthew_W, the only way to test a workaround is to upgrade ALSA versions, and I have to go to bed now. If you search the forum, however, you can find my mailing list posts ("crimsun") explaining how to use 'alsa-source' from universe.
[07:24] <visor> hi folks :)
[07:24] <raz>  any ideas on how to get gtk2-devel throu apt-get/synaptics?
[07:24] <ubu> raz, install libgtk2.0-dev
[07:25] <thoreauputic> 2.6.10-5-686
[07:25] <thoreauputic> yes!
[07:25] <thoreauputic> back in business
[07:25] <xxenon> ?
[07:26] <thoreauputic> I got my kernel to boot....
[07:26] <xxenon> ah ..
[07:26] <thoreauputic> whew
[07:26] <raz> ubu, ty.
[07:26] <ubu> raz, np
[07:26] <thoreauputic> !seen levander`
[07:26] <ubotu> levander` is currently on #ubuntu (1h 19m 14s)
[07:27] <magoo> hi all! the topic says 'use archive.ubuntu.com...' but I can't find apps I want to install in that one. Is there some other method or repositories?
[07:27] <thoreauputic> levander`: if you're around - I owe you a beer or three :)
[07:27] <ubu> magoo, make sure you update after you change /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:27] <visor> anybody has any idea why graphical Java applications do not fit the theme in gnome? Azureus does but debuging information tells me that the current engine isnt supported but its weird cause azureus looks just good but others like LimeWire or the gallery client do not
[07:28] <magoo> ubu: yes
[07:28] <visor> and yes, i have jre 1.5 installed, this may be a jre issue but i just want to know if any of you have the same problem
[07:28] <thoreauputic> visor: maybe they use swing?
[07:28] <ubu> magnon, "yes" as in you have?
[07:28] <ubu> magnon, sorry
[07:28] <visor> thoreauputic: most probably yes
[07:28] <magoo> ubu: yea
[07:28] <ubu> magoo, as in you have updated?
[07:29] <visor> thoreauputic: but then the problem is within jre itself and not a ubuntu/gnome issue isnt it?
[07:29] <thoreauputic> visor: I haven't seen swing in action lately, but it used to look horrible
[07:29] <thoreauputic> visor: yeah, widget kit/intrface for java
[07:29] <thoreauputic> *interface
[07:29] <visor> thoreauputic: i used to use jre 1.5 in other distributiones and it wrapped gtk just well, i only have this problem in ubuntu
[07:30] <thoreauputic> visor: ah - well then I don't know
[07:30] <ubu> magoo, what application are you attempting to install?
[07:30] <thoreauputic> visor: I currently don't use java at all
[07:31] <visor> and it is suppossed that jre 1.5 uses the same engine as gtk, in fact i think i used once jre 1.4 and it worked flawlessly and all apps aside those that use native java widgets worked just well
[07:31] <magoo> ubu: well updated the list havnt done any upgrades. just wanted to install mplayer :)
[07:31] <thoreauputic> hmmm ... :(
[07:31] <visor> thoreauputic: me neither but i found this program for uploading photos to a webserver using gallery and i thought it would be useful but it is written in java
[07:32] <thoreauputic> i see
[07:32] <ubu> magnon, mplayer-586 (et al.) are in multiverse. Did you enable that repo?
[07:32] <thoreauputic> fair enough
[07:32] <gamess> what I cant login at http://localhost:631 using my account
[07:32] <gamess> it says their that use Root Account
[07:32] <gamess> *Why
[07:32] <visor> and i can stand the horrible java look but this really looks bad, its unreadable, the labels couldnt be read, its all whitey
[07:32] <ubu> gamess, use the System>Administration>Printing tool instead
[07:33] <gamess> ubu, I cant delete the existing printer nor to stop the pending jobs of it
[07:33] <visor> i will try to update jre or downgrade to 1.4.2 maybe that'll fix it
[07:33] <gamess> if I click Cancel, the Window will just hangup
[07:33] <ubu> gamess, did you check the wiki?
[07:33] <gamess> waht wiki-wiki ?
[07:34] <ubu> see the topic.
[07:34] <gamess> ok
[07:34] <gamess> scrolling up.......
[07:35] <gamess> if possible, I want to manage the printer using the web-based environment
[07:36] <magoo> ubu: no i gess im too noob for that :) added multiverse to the sections line in synaptic but still cant find the app
[07:36] <thoreauputic> levander`: ping
[07:36] <ubu> magoo, paste your /etc/apt/sources.list onto pastebin.ca
[07:37] <visor> geez the channel has grown a lot
[07:37] <gamess> ubu, i cant find about HP printer in the Wiki......
[07:37] <gamess> :)
[07:37] <visor> gamess: whats the problem?
[07:38] <gamess> visor, about removing my printer
[07:39] <gamess> or stoping it pending Jobs
[07:39] <gamess> coz I will click cancel on it, it will just hangup
[07:39] <visor> gamess: and cant it be done by the gnome printers admin tool?
[07:40] <gamess> yes
[07:40] <visor> gamess: and... so?
[07:40] <gamess> the printer window will just hangup if Ill going the cancel its jobs
[07:40] <gamess> also the printer doesnt response anymore
[07:41] <gamess> but yesterday, id succesffuly done a Print Test page
[07:41] <visor> is it supported?
[07:41] <gamess> now, It wont print
[07:41] <gamess> yes
[07:41] <gamess> HP Deskjet 3550
[07:41] <josemi> gamess: try using cups simply
[07:41] <josemi> via http
[07:41] <josemi> and selecting your printer if available
[07:42] <gamess> josemi, but it ask for root password
[07:42] <anacron_> supergood morning!
[07:42] <gamess> but they said that Ubuntu doesnt have Root Account
[07:42] <magoo> ubu: ok here i think http://pastebin.ca/14224
[07:42] <GNULinuxer> in which Repo can I find Adobe Acrobat Reader 7.0 ? I have universe enabled, but I still don't find it on synaptic
[07:42] <gamess> i cant also used my Sudo account in that http://localhost:631
[07:42] <anacron> gamess: you can have one, if you want
[07:42] <rommer> should a swap partition be logical or primary?
[07:42] <gamess> how ?
[07:42] <gamess> :)
[07:42] <gamess> thats interesting
[07:43] <anacron> gamess: just add one,
[07:43] <gamess> add one ?
[07:43] <gamess> account ?
[07:43] <anacron> gamess: sudo passwd <sumthing>
[07:43] <anacron> passwd root*
[07:43] <Dr_willis_> rommer,  it dosent matter
[07:43] <ubu> magoo, you typo'd
[07:43] <gamess> i have 2 user accounts on this Ubuntu system
[07:43] <rommer> dr_willis ok ta
[07:43] <ubu> magoo, replace "unstable" with "universe"
[07:44] <magoo> ubu: ok thabks
[07:44] <josemi> gamess: root passwd ? and what's the problem ??
[07:44] <anacron> gamess: there's no need for root account though, you can use sudo for everything
[07:44] <magoo> *thanks
[07:44] <josemi> gamess: sudo passwd root
[07:44] <doonz> hey guys with that url in the topic how do i get the repositories to use it?
[07:44] <josemi> and set it.
[07:44] <FR500> hello
[07:44] <duken> hi how much space hardisk required for mirroring ubuntu just hoary, arch i386 ?
[07:44] <gamess> ill try
[07:44] <FR500> is any of ou able to use the irc gdesklet without doing a thing
[07:44] <gamess> what would be a Root's username
[07:44] <gamess> ?
[07:45] <josemi> gamess: do this
[07:45] <josemi> sudo passwd root
[07:45] <josemi> and no more
[07:45] <josemi> then log int using the root account
[07:45] <josemi> login root passwd: whatever you want
[07:45] <gamess> passwd: password updated successfully
[07:45] <gamess> like that ?
[07:45] <josemi> that's ok
[07:45] <josemi> then
[07:45] <josemi> you can log in as root
[07:45] <josemi> su -
[07:46] <josemi> and so on
[07:46] <anacron> but again, there's no need for root account
[07:46] <josemi> anacron:
[07:46] <josemi> mm
[07:46] <anacron> since you can use sudo, and sudo -s
[07:46] <josemi> I disagree
[07:46] <NicP> why on earth would you want to do that
[07:46] <josemi> yeap
[07:46] <josemi> your installation-user
[07:46] <josemi> is a root-like account
[07:46] <josemi> so, it's preffered for me
[07:46] <josemi> delete this account
[07:47] <thoreauputic> josemi: sudo -s achieves the same effect as su anyway
[07:47] <josemi> and create a new one
[07:47] <NicP> one of the benifits of sudo is no root account
[07:47] <kvidell> I agree, I haven't used my root account since I learned about sudo YEARS ago on an old RedHat box
[07:47] <josemi> with NO privileges
[07:47] <anacron> josemi: why would i do that?
[07:47] <josemi> well... I use Gentoo
[07:47] <NicP> but your user has no privledges untill you use sudo
[07:47] <anacron> that's just stupid :D
[07:47] <kvidell> yea really.. that's kind of.. well... short-bus
[07:47] <kvidell> and redundant :-P
[07:47] <thoreauputic> josemi: you are a bit confused about sudo, methinks :)
[07:48] <josemi> I don't want anybody be able to do sudo or privileged tasks
[07:48] <kvidell> the ndon't let them
[07:48] <doonz> can anyone help me out?
[07:48] <josemi> without the ROOT account
[07:48] <NicP> lol
[07:48] <josemi> that's for security
[07:48] <NicP> yeah create another user then
[07:48] <mhz> hi you all
[07:48] <dbernar1> a user inHoary has to be in the admin group to use sudo
[07:48] <kvidell> um
[07:48] <kvidell> so is sudo
[07:48] <gamess> you cant understand me guyz, http://localhost:631 has a msgbox-like prompt that requesting for Root's USERNAME and PASSWORD before i can access the service
[07:48] <NicP> that has no privledges
[07:48] <josemi> I know
[07:48] <kvidell> you really don't know how to use it then
[07:48] <dbernar1> In Warty, you need to add him to the sudoers file.
[07:48] <josemi> I know what is sudo for
[07:48] <gamess> not in command line
[07:48] <kvidell> no you don't :)
[07:48] <kvidell> I find that hard to believe at this point.
[07:48] <josemi> kvidell: ok then.
[07:48] <NicP> so do i
[07:49] <josemi> Kvidell: i don't want users to be able to use SUDO
[07:49] <kvidell> You can limit WHAT commands people can run even
[07:49] <josemi> that's all.
[07:49] <mhz> hames, did you adduser cupsys shadow  ?
[07:49] <kvidell> then don't le them
[07:49] <kvidell> you have to add them to an allowed list first
[07:49] <kvidell> if you don't add them, they can't use it
[07:49] <mhz> gamess, did you adduser cupsys shadow  ?
[07:49] <doonz>  | Use archive.ubuntu.com if us.archive.ubuntu.com gives md5sum errors   <-- how do i do this?????
[07:49] <NicP> so disallw them
[07:49] <NicP> yeah
[07:49] <NicP> not all users can use sudo
[07:49] <NicP> only ones that are specified
[07:49] <dbernar1> doonz what?
[07:49] <Hhhhh> what do you use to set up users with sudo, visudo?
[07:49] <anacron> doonz: topic
[07:49] <kvidell> you can also specify which commands people can or cannot use
[07:49] <dbernar1> you want to change us. to just without that?
[07:50] <josemi> kvidell: I know
[07:50] <thoreauputic> doonz: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the "us." on each line
[07:50] <doonz> ahh ok
[07:50] <josemi> and I don't want people to use sudo (in any way)
[07:50] <kvidell> They use SUDO in the cisco datacenters to let the engineers do a few remedial tasks so the sysadmin's aren't being constantly harassed
[07:50] <kvidell> why?
[07:50] <doonz> thanx thoreauputic
[07:50] <kvidell> you'd rather them have FULL access?
[07:50] <thoreauputic> doonz: then do an apt-get update
[07:50] <doonz> ok
[07:50] <josemi> kvidell: ubuntu is not for datacenters
[07:50] <thoreauputic> dooglus: no worries:)
[07:50] <kvidell> no
[07:50] <dbernar1> heh
[07:50] <kvidell> I said they use SUDO though :)
[07:50] <kvidell> so does ubuntu
[07:50] <mhz> Has any one here successfully run NFS server and clinets???
[07:50] <josemi> yeap, and NASA uses Zope + Plone so waht ?=
[07:51] <thoreauputic> mhz: sure
[07:51] <kvidell> I'm staryting to get the inkling you're only here to troll
[07:51] <josemi> kvidell: me ?
[07:51] <thoreauputic> mhz: install openssh-server
[07:51] <josemi> kvidell: no no
[07:51] <kvidell> yes, you :)
[07:51] <josemi> kvidell: this is not my intention
[07:51] <josemi> kvidell: so I explain my opinion
[07:52] <abbot45> ive got something in my trash bin that wont delete.  its just a folder that i put in there from a removable usb drive.  it says that its from a read only drive so i cant delete it.
[07:52] <abbot45> its really bugging me.  how can i get rid of this thing?
[07:52] <mhz> thoreauputic, cool. I've read 3 diff (similar though) HowTos + the one in ubuntu  wiki UNsuccessfully :(  Openssh-server is installed, so is portmap in all clients and server
[07:52] <dbernar1_> if you want to remove it, type in sudo rm -r ~/.Trash/*
[07:52] <thoreauputic> mhz: good
[07:52] <NicP> josemi: theres nothing stopping you from setting up your machine with a root account if you feel the need, but there are reasons that the sudo system has been chosen, please dont encourage newbies to setup a root account when they have no idea what they are doing and they can do everything with the current sudo system
[07:53] <mhz> :)
[07:53] <NicP> :)
[07:53] <thoreauputic> mhz: have you read the tldp howto?
[07:53] <mhz> thoreauputic, let me re-check
[07:53] <josemi> NicP: I agree but (for mi) it's more easy to have a root account for privileged tasks
[07:54] <josemi> or... if you want this in other words
[07:54] <thoreauputic> mhz: I don't use windows, and I find nfs is much quicker for me than samba
[07:54] <josemi> I't's highly recommended to know your root passwd, in fact.
[07:54] <mhz> thoreauputic, BTW, I only will use/need NFS to mount dirs. I wont use NIs
[07:54] <xero> what is nfs?
[07:54] <josemi> network filesystem (Surely)
[07:54] <abbot45> dbernar1, "rm: cannot remove `/home/adam/.Trash/Themes': No such file or directory"
[07:54] <mhz> thoreauputic, I prefer not to use samba
[07:54] <doonz> thanx thor it worked
[07:54] <xero> is it used in place of samba?
[07:54] <thoreauputic> mhz: so do I :)
[07:55] <mhz> :)
[07:55] <thoreauputic> doonz: great
[07:55] <NicP> josemi: but if there is no root account and no root password theoretically the system is more secure
[07:55] <thoreauputic> doonz: :)
[07:55] <mhz> xero, not "instead" but you could say so
[07:55] <josemi> NicP: so root's account have to exists in any way
[07:55] <josemi> -s
[07:55] <dbernar1_> abbot45 um do a ls ~/.Trash and tell me the folders there, please do not paste long text.
[07:55] <xero> ... could you explain?
[07:55] <thoreauputic> xero: nfs is the *nix standard, but alot of folks use samba anyway now
[07:55] <josemi> you can call this account root or "default install user" but's a privileged users
[07:56] <josemi> user
[07:56] <NicP> well if that works for you thats fine
[07:56] <signius> there seems to be a problem with the source archive gb.archive.ubuntu.com
[07:56] <thoreauputic> xero: samba was designed to interact with windows networks from *nix
[07:56] <josemi> NicP: of course, so I agree: SUDO is an usefull tool.
[07:56] <thoreauputic> xero: nfs is the native system
[07:56] <signius> i just edited my apt source list and removed the gb. and it works perfect now
[07:56] <dbernar1_> a useful
[07:56] <josemi> ok sorry
[07:57] <josemi> I'm spanish
[07:57] <dbernar1_> sorry, just language geek.
[07:57] <josemi> my english is too poor
[07:57] <xero> oh ic ok
[07:57] <dbernar1_> I thiunk I understood everything so far
[07:57] <thoreauputic> xero: but samba is so good that a lot of people use it in *nix networks now as well
[07:57] <xero> so nfs will not work with windows stuff?
[07:57] <xero> yeah i know samba is quite popular
[07:57] <bob2> xero: you can buy NFS clients for windows
[07:57] <abbot45> dbernar1, it doesnt show anything when i ls.  when i navigate to ~/.trash it is empty.  but it shows the "stuff is in your trash can" icon and when i click on that it shows that there is that file in there.
[07:57] <xero> i use that if i dont use ftp
[07:57] <xero> buy... ha!
[07:57] <Fr0Gs> my ubuntu keeps crashing since i installed the ati drivers please help
[07:57] <thoreauputic> xero: it will, but it isn't worth the hassle - and samba works better for windows
[07:58] <xero> kewl
[07:58] <bob2> Fr0Gs: define "crashing"
[07:58] <josemi> lol
[07:58] <josemi> XDD
[07:58] <thoreauputic> bob2: I solved my kernel problem! :D
[07:58] <mhz> thoreauputic, oh, i did read http://nfs.sourceforge.net/  instead the one in TLDP. I am reading tlpd now, just in case. However, i do have to "claim" that  /proc/filesystems has NO 'nfs' line :)
[07:58] <dbernar1_> abbot45 then it is gone, not sure how to get the icon fixed, try killall gnome-panel in a terminal
[07:58] <bob2> thoreauputic: woo, what was it?
[07:58] <dbernar1_> signius /topic, maybe
[07:58] <xero> fr0gs: yeah have fun w/ ati drivers... i still cannot get dualmonitors working
[07:58] <Fr0Gs> when i try and move desktop items the whole computer freezes bob2 and after a while of just leaving it sitting there it crashes
[07:59] <Fr0Gs> just jams up
[07:59] <Fr0Gs> freezes
[07:59] <signius> ????? whats the /topic thing about ?
[07:59] <abbot45> dbernar1, its not just the icon though.  when i click on the icon it brings up nautilus with the file in there.
[07:59] <signius> i am new to irc
[07:59] <bob2> Fr0Gs: so, remove them
[07:59] <thoreauputic> bob2: I found DMA errors - delays , in /var/log/syslog, so I enabled interrupt_unmask in hdparm.conf
[07:59] <bob2> signius: type /topic into your irc client
[07:59] <dbernar1_> just type it in
[07:59] <bob2> thoreauputic: hrm, ok
[07:59] <abbot45> when i click on the file it navigates to the trash bin on my mp3 player.  /media/GMINI 400/.Trash-adam
[07:59] <thoreauputic> bob2: and now it boots OK to the new kernel
[07:59] <dbernar1_> wow
[08:00] <thoreauputic> bob2: the errors were related to /dev/hdc
[08:00] <thoreauputic> which is my CD-Rom
[08:00] <bob2> Fr0Gs: no, please don't /msg me
[08:00] <signius> yeah you say that as if my comments were not related to ubuntu ?
[08:00] <Fr0Gs> ok
[08:00] <bob2> Fr0Gs: sorry they're unstable for you, can you file a bug please?
[08:00] <Fr0Gs> err ok
[08:00] <Fr0Gs> :)
[08:00] <josemi> anyone of you knows if a Riva TNT2 *m64* works fine (agp) under Linux, I know this card does not works fine under windows 9x or 2K
[08:00] <josemi> ?
[08:00] <Fr0Gs> should i get a lower version of ubuntu then try
[08:00] <dbernar1_> signius no, there is a portion in the topic about mirrors, somewhat related
[08:00] <gamesss> sorry got DC, we got brown out due to heavy rains :)
[08:01] <Fr0Gs> brown out lol
[08:01] <Fr0Gs> bob2 would a older version of ubuntu help
[08:01] <gamesss> who said about, adduser cupsys shadow command ?
[08:01] <signius> Ah ok i see it now
[08:01] <gamesss> thats the last words I seen on my Xchat
[08:01] <dbernar1_> yup2o_O
[08:01] <bob2> Fr0Gs: I wouldn't think so
[08:02] <signius> i did a search on google previously and it didnt come up with anything useful
[08:02] <Fr0Gs> lol
[08:02] <Fr0Gs> then whats the problem
[08:02] <thoreauputic> bob2: can you think of any reason the recent kernel would cause DMA issues on boot? My previous kernel had no problems...
[08:02] <signius> and an obscure line in the heading of an irc chat isnt the most prominant of places to provide that info i dont think
[08:02] <signius> but its resolved now all the same
[08:02] <dbernar1_> whatg do you turn on in BIOS to make a hard disk bootable? just the boot sequence?
[08:03] <dbernar1_> signius excellent
[08:03] <bob2> Fr0Gs: it's a binary driver, there's little anything but ATI can do to fix it
[08:03] <bob2> signius: where would you prefer it be put?
[08:03] <gamesss> i can made a Test print in Printers, but when I print thur OpenOffice, the jobs will just go "Printing 2 Job" but the printer doesnt print....
[08:03] <gamesss> *thru
[08:03] <litheum> installing 5.04 and installer is erroring when selecting kernel "linux-386". error is related to dpkg "Errors were encountered while processing : /cdrom/pool/.../linux-image.2.6.10-5-386_2.6.10-34_i386.deb. \n E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[08:03] <signius> you dont make it bootable in the BIOS you make it bootable in FDISK or CFDISK or whatever other flavour you use
[08:04] <dbernar1_> signius hehe, windows wont boot:P
[08:04] <signius> you can change the boot order in the BIOS
[08:04] <dbernar1_> m$ says change your bios...:) for the error...
[08:04] <signius> are dual booting windows and GNU/Linux ?
[08:04] <dbernar1_> not yet..
[08:04] <dbernar1_> I am reainstallin the whole comp
[08:04] <litheum> here's more info "dpkg-dev (subprocess): error in buffer_read(stream): failed to write to pipe in copy: Input/output error"
[08:04] <litheum> any ideas?
[08:04] <dbernar1_> 3 OSs, 2 HDs.
[08:04] <signius> Im confused
[08:05] <black13> i keep getting this error undefined reference to `__stack_smash_handler'
[08:05] <signius> so if you havnt touched anything why has windows stopped booting
[08:05] <dbernar1_> Primary master wont boot windows once it copies the files to the HD, anyhow, OT...
[08:05] <dbernar1_> nono, I am installing it now.
[08:05] <dbernar1_> anyhow, OT. forget it.
[08:05] <signius> OT ??
[08:05] <dbernar1_> off topic
[08:05] <signius> ok i got to get going for work :-(
[08:06] <signius> bye for now chaps
[08:06] <dbernar1_> see ya
[08:06] <gamesss> anybody help me with my printer ?
[08:06] <mhz> thoreauputic, hmm, why is that hoary does not gimme an NFS output for 'insmod nfs'??  insmod: can't read 'nfs': No such file or directory
[08:06] <dbernar1_> checked OOo is using the right printer
[08:06] <rommer> how do i install nvidia drivers?
[08:06] <Ghetek> is it "$mount my iso file please" or "$mount my iso file pretty please"?
[08:06] <mhz> thoreauputic, my kernel experience sucks, i know
[08:07] <mhz> :)
[08:07] <litheum> mhz: you don't have the NFS kernel module built/available?
[08:07] <dbernar1_> !binarydriver
[08:07] <ubotu> dbernar1_: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[08:07] <dbernar1_> !binary
[08:07] <ubotu> dbernar1_: I give up, what is it?
[08:07] <thoreauputic> mhz: you don't need to do that
[08:07] <dbernar1_> rommer www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/binarydriverhowto
[08:08] <Mahl> Quick : Im using k3b and its burning fine usually at 40 x....(I had to set up the buffer used by k3b manually) But when burning Audio cd's....the Device buffer drops and drops and drops
[08:08] <Mahl> any solution
[08:08] <rommer> dbernar1_: thanks
[08:08] <mhz> litheum, AFAIK, I chose Ubuntu BECAUSE it had "everything" a regular honorable distro needs :)
[08:08] <dbernar1_> Ghetek...?
[08:08] <NicP> mahl: i belive it has something to do with the drivers or something, some talk about if u use the emulated scsi driver it works at full speed
[08:08] <Ghetek> im just trying to mount an iso here
[08:08] <NicP> i have simmilar problems
[08:08] <thoreauputic> mhz: if you set up your /etc/exports right, and start the portmapper before the server, you should be fine
[08:09] <litheum> mhz: doesn't mean that you installed all the stuff that you are trying to use
[08:09] <doonz> hey guys i installed a few apps from that ubuntuguide page but they arent showing up with icons
[08:09] <mhz> thoreauputic, so I thought :)
[08:09] <gamesss> i guess noone about printers, :) Ok just teach how do I Install my Sony Microvault Flash Disk? Coz when I plugged it, it can be detected/ install....
[08:09] <thoreauputic> mhz: what issues are you having?
[08:09] <dbernar1_> Ghetek that is shown on ubuntuguide.org or maybe even in ubuntulinux.org/wiki/frontpage/searchwiki
[08:09] <gamesss> *cant
[08:09] <mhz> thoreauputic: no mounting anything at all :D
[08:10] <dbernar1_> doonz just teh icons missing? killall gnome-panel
[08:10] <thoreauputic> mhz: you know about the rpcinfo command?
[08:10] <mhz> yep
[08:10] <Mahl> NicP, its just for Audio CD's
[08:10] <doonz> sweeet
[08:10] <doonz> thnx
[08:10] <mhz> it shows everything running in the server
[08:10] <gamesss> no one also :) .....
[08:10] <Ghetek> ok will look thanks
[08:10] <dbernar1_> gamesss um........... did you check that OOo is using the right printer?
[08:10] <dbernar1_> welcome both
[08:11] <gamesss> what 00o ?
[08:11] <thoreauputic> mhz: you should see a bunch of stuff if you run rpcinfo -p
[08:11] <dbernar1_> OpenOffice.org
[08:11] <gamesss> yes
[08:11] <gamesss> I set it up to the right name printer
[08:11] <thoreauputic> mhz: portmapper, nfs, nlockmgr, mountd, status
[08:11] <gamesss> but the Printer will says Printing 2 Jobs, but it doesnt print
[08:12] <dbernar1_> ok, well, then I dont know. it should print. as for the flash disk... a USB key?
[08:12] <gamesss> but when I made the TEst print before that, it successfully print
[08:12] <mhz> thoreauputic, can i paste here?
[08:12] <thoreauputic> mhz: no :)
[08:12] <gamesss> :)
[08:12] <mhz> I thought so
[08:12] <dbernar1_> http://pastebin.com
[08:12] <thoreauputic> mht: maybe /j #flood
[08:13] <dbernar1_> I loved 144000 modems...:p
[08:13] <gamesss> if this computer wont print, I will reformat it and back to WindowsXP again...
[08:13] <dbernar1_> damn error in windows!
[08:13] <gamesss> coz we always do here is Office applications :)
[08:13] <dbernar1_> why do I have to have that OS anyhow...
[08:13] <josemi> gameness: have you tried to run Cups ?
[08:14] <gamesss> how can I make the cup run ?
[08:14] <josemi> gamenesss: /etc/init.d/cups start
[08:14] <gamesss> ill try
[08:14] <mhz> gamesss, /etc/init.d/cupsys start
[08:15] <gamesss> root@pnpaserver:/home/pnpa # /etc/init.d/cupsys start
[08:15] <gamesss>  * Starting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd
[08:15] <gamesss> root@pnpaserver:/home/pnpa #
[08:15] <josemi> gamenesss: then you should get access to an interface via http
[08:15] <gamesss> thats right?
[08:15] <josemi> yeap
[08:15] <josemi> that's right
[08:15] <gamesss> lol,,,, ill try to print now...
[08:15] <gamesss> :)
[08:15] <josemi> now go to your browser
[08:15] <gamesss> ok
[08:15] <josemi> and set your printer first
[08:15] <gamesss> josemi, then what ?
[08:16] <gamesss> josemi, it will ask for a username and password
[08:16] <gamesss> and Prompt always frigthened me
[08:16] <dbernar1_> Ghetek make sure not to use their advice rashly, there is some bad ideas there, somewhat
[08:16] <gamesss> I always did all my user account here in Ubuntu but It cant access
[08:16] <black13> does anyone know anything about `__stack_smash_handler'
[08:16] <dbernar1_> brb
[08:16] <Ghetek> ok
[08:17] <josemi> gameness: try with a root browser
[08:17] <josemi> or simply point to 127.0.0.1:8081 ?
[08:17] <gamesss> ok
[08:18] <gamesss> josemi, he refused
[08:18] <gamesss> connection refused
[08:18] <dbernar1_> no apache installed=no localhost
[08:18] <dbernar1_> through browser, anyhow.
[08:18] <josemi> gameness: netstat -aut|grep -i "*:*"
[08:18] <gamesss> i guess apache will run in Port 80
[08:18] <dbernar1_> whats that got to do with printing anyhow:)
[08:18] <josemi> search for your cups listen port
[08:19] <gamesss> josemi, do I paste the result here ?
[08:19] <josemi> as you wish
[08:19] <dbernar1_> http://pastebin.com
[08:19] <dr_willis> http://localhost:631/  - is what cups listens to for its web interface
[08:19] <dbernar1_> josemi:-/
[08:19] <mht> gamesss: try system > administration > printing to setup printer...
[08:19] <dr_willis> however admining from that has been disabled in ubuntu for 'security' issues
[08:19] <josemi> gameness: Dr.Will tells you the port
[08:20] <dbernar1_> dr_willis important insight:)
[08:20] <josemi> dr_wills: thanks for remember the default port
[08:20] <dr_willis> it can be reenabled. if needed however. :)
[08:20] <gamesss> mht,  I tried that way Many many many many times, but the Printer window will just hang-up
[08:20] <black13> where would i find debian source packages for xorg
[08:20] <dr_willis> I got me a little Dlink Print-server the other day for $50 for my old Laserjet. It works like a top. heh heh
[08:20] <mht> gamesss: try it after cups running :)
[08:20] <gamesss> yes
[08:20] <gamesss> i almost run the cups many times also
[08:21] <dbernar1_> black13 apt-source something, I am not in ubuntu now...
[08:21] <josemi> gameness: then go to: http://127.0.0.1:631
[08:21] <gamesss> and it successfull did a Test print with a large Ubuntu Header and colored blocks
[08:21] <dbernar1_> I like the test print page, nice colors:)
[08:22] <dbernar1_> especially after trying to set up the printer for days,..
[08:22] <stjepan> hi
[08:22] <dbernar1_> bok
[08:22] <gamesss> but when I try to print at OpenOffice, The Printer just says Printer 90 jobs, but the printer doesnt print
[08:22] <gamesss> :(
[08:22] <gamesss> *Printing
[08:22] <dr_willis> Ahh.. Hmm
[08:22] <gamesss> *Printing XX jobs
[08:22] <dr_willis> does other apps print?
[08:22] <josemi> gameness: clean your print queue
[08:22] <stjepan> can I use with Ubuntu, for example, fluxbox, gnome, kde and xfce?
[08:22] <gamesss> I havent try yet...
[08:22] <dbernar1_> yes, stjepan
[08:22] <gamesss> but almost has pending...
[08:22] <gamesss> *all
[08:23] <dr_willis> gamesss,  i recall some issues in the past with Openoffice at times.
[08:23] <gamesss> josemi, that my problem how do I clean the queque
[08:23] <josemi> gameness: kill jobs and try again
[08:23] <josemi> I  think via http it's possible
[08:23] <josemi> or use lprint
[08:23] <dr_willis> check 'lpq' command see if oo is even sending any real print jobs.
[08:23] <james> i keep getting MD5sum mismatches when trying to install ubuntu packages
[08:23] <stjepan> dbernar1_, how?
[08:23] <dbernar1_> stjepan when you boot, you see a login screenm, called gdm in gnome, and kdm in kde...
[08:23] <josemi>  $ lp
[08:23] <josemi> lp           lppasswd     lpr          lprsetup.sh
[08:23] <josemi> lpoptions    lpq          lprm         lpstat
[08:24] <gamesss> how do I kill Jobs? coz when I click Cancel jobs on the Printer Window, it will just hangup
[08:24] <dr_willis> 'lprm'
[08:24] <stjepan> dbernar1_, How will I choose?
[08:24] <gamesss> I cant say my system is low coz its using Pentium 4 3.2 Ghz
[08:24] <dbernar1_> there is a sessions button on it, and lets you select the wm, out of the ones installed. To install something, sudo aptitude something another yetAnother ....
[08:25] <gamesss> DeskJet-3550 is ready and printing
[08:25] <gamesss> Rank    Owner   Job     File(s)                         Total Size
[08:25] <gamesss> active  pnpa    4       Test Page                       153600 bytes
[08:25] <gamesss> 1st     pnpa    5       Untitled1                       235520 bytes
[08:25] <gamesss> 2nd     pnpa    6       Untitled                        235520 bytes
[08:25] <gamesss> 3rd     pnpa    7       Test Page                       153600 bytes
[08:25] <josemi> lp -u user
[08:25] <dbernar1_> james type in /topic as your message to the channel
[08:25] <mht> gamesss: what type when you click at printer setting?
[08:25] <josemi> gameness: lp -u pnpa
[08:25] <Ghetek> pastebin pastebin!!!
[08:25] <dbernar1_> haha
[08:25] <Tritis> Has anyone ever seen PCM under alsa mixer be a toggle instead of a slide bar?  I can't lower volume with it, only mute or unmute.  My chipset is an nforce2 with a CMI9739 intel8x0?
[08:25] <thoreauputic> gamesss: please, don't do that again
[08:25] <mhz> or #flood
[08:25] <josemi> Tritis: use alsamixer
[08:26] <Tritis> josemi: I'm in alsamixer.
[08:26] <gamesss> sorry thoreauputic ....
[08:26] <josemi> or the equivalent under gnome
[08:26] <josemi> Trities: and you can't lower ?
[08:26] <josemi> ... thats rare
[08:26] <gamesss> mht, type ?
[08:26] <thoreauputic> gamesss: #flood or pastebin.ca :)
[08:26] <mhz> gamesss, instead, next time you can do this:  /join #flood
[08:26] <gamesss> oh i remember
[08:26] <gamesss> :)
[08:26] <gamesss> thanks
[08:26] <mhz> np
[08:27] <mhz> been there
[08:27] <Tritis> josemi: screenshot of what alsa mixer looks like to me: http://img217.echo.cx/my.php?image=screenshotmojohomejaknel2ym.png
[08:27] <gamesss> it says in my status window, too many channels open....
[08:27] <dbernar1_> james got it?
[08:27] <gamesss> :D
[08:27] <black13> anyone tried to build xorg on ubuntu
[08:27] <mht> gamesss: when you click printer setting at OOo, what type you got?
[08:27] <mhz> black13, AFAIK, hoarty runs XORG
[08:27] <dbernar1_> black13 it is built into hoary
[08:27] <thoreauputic> black13: can't imagine why anyone would...
[08:27] <james> dbernar1_, yah
[08:27] <black13> curiosity
[08:27] <thoreauputic> :)
[08:28] <mhz> "...killed the cat"
[08:28] <mhz> :D
[08:28] <black13> what version of xorg?
[08:28] <james>           packages
[08:28] <litheum> installing 5.04 fails when selecting the "linux-386" kernel with this error: "dpkg-dev (subprocess): error in buffer_read(stream): failed to write to pipe in copy: Input/output error" any suggestions?
[08:28] <Madpilot> mhz: no, just crashed it's computer.. ;)
[08:28] <black13> 6.8.2
[08:28] <mhz> .oO (there is band with that name)
[08:28] <bob2> litheum: your hard disk is having issues
[08:28] <mhz> Madpilot, LOL
[08:28] <bob2> litheum: or the cd is screwed
[08:29] <josemi> Tritis: strange
[08:29] <signius> how can you do a search for a package with apt-get ?
[08:29] <litheum> bob2: i'll fsck and burn a new CD if that doesn't shed any light. thanks
[08:29] <signius> if yoru not sure exactly what its called ?
[08:29] <josemi> Trits: mine's is normal
[08:29] <dbernar1_> aptitude search packagName
[08:29] <josemi> like the others
[08:29] <dbernar1_> apt-cache search packageName
[08:29] <mhz> signius, apt-cache search the_name
[08:29] <signius> thanks
[08:30] <click_wilson> ok I am brand new to ubuntu and was needing to know how to install java on Mozilla
[08:30] <thoreauputic> bob2: I had a couple of I/O errors on my CD ROM too - do you think my hdparm.conf hack was just postponing the inevitable?
[08:30] <gamesss> mht, TYPE: CUPS:Deskjet-3550
[08:30] <bob2> litheum: oh, it's not a fsck thing, it'd be a physical problem, if it is the disk
[08:30] <Tritis> josemi: Well that stinks for me.  I think it was normal for me when i first installed hoary.  Guess I installed a package that made my life bad
[08:30] <dbernar1_> click_wilson www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/java
[08:30] <bob2> thoreauputic: I/O errors on a cdrom can be bad disks, failing cd drive, loose cable...
[08:30] <litheum> bob2: wouldn't fsck be able to find that sort of problem?
[08:30] <gamesss> thats what i seen
[08:30] <gamesss> :)
[08:30] <bob2> litheum: sure, but the disk is still going to have physical problems
[08:30] <thoreauputic> bob2: OK thanks
[08:30] <bob2> litheum: and you'll get the same i/o error next time something writes to that bit of it
[08:30] <litheum> bob2: but then i'd know that was the problem at least :)
[08:30] <black13> thoreaputic, what vesian
[08:31] <black13> version
[08:31] <josemi> Trities: I dunno about your problem so... try gnome-alsamixer
[08:31] <josemi> or reinstall alsa
[08:31] <black13> i answered my question
[08:31] <bob2> litheum: sure :)
[08:31] <josemi> (not from kernel)
[08:31] <thoreauputic> black13: sorry? of what?
[08:31] <litheum> doubt it's the hard disk actually, i added a separate boot partition after i first had the error and that didn't solve the problem
[08:31] <black13> xorg version
[08:31] <gamesss> mht, TYPE: CUPS:Deskjet-3550
[08:31] <thoreauputic> mine is 6.8.2 I think
[08:31] <litheum> though i also tried the other 2 kernels that were offered and that didn't help either :-/
[08:31] <mhz> thoreauputic, so far, http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/NFS-HOWTO/  is = to http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/NFS-HOWTO/  :D
[08:31] <thoreauputic> black13: ^^^
[08:32] <vinux> Anybody use the gui openbox in here?
[08:32] <thoreauputic> mht: ah i see :)
[08:32] <gamesss> whre mht go ? :(
[08:32] <mhz> vinux, not me :)
[08:32] <thoreauputic> mhz: I guess it's just a reprint, as it were
[08:32] <josemi> gamenesss: try sudo lp -u pnpa (or the user u want to clear jobs)
[08:32] <dr_willis> vinux,  you mean the "openbox window manager"  :)
[08:32] <vinux> dr_willis, yea
[08:32] <gamesss> mht ?
[08:32] <dbernar1_> so...?
[08:32] <gamesss> u there ?
[08:32] <mhz> thoreauputic, hmm, we definately need a bettar NFS ubuntu wiki page
[08:32] <mhz> :)
[08:33] <black13> watching the second rotation of adult swim ... and getting fried
[08:33] <mht> gamesss: try to close OOo, stop cups: '/etc/init.d/cupsys', empty cups job: 'rm /var/spool/cups/c*', 'rm /var/spool/cups/d*'
[08:33] <vinux> dr_willis, brb going to login to openbox
[08:33] <gamesss> ok
[08:33] <mhz> or maybe it's because i am trying Ubuntu x86 server with ubuntu ppc clients ??????????????????
[08:33] <dbernar1_> black13 ? are you being inappropriate??
[08:33] <da_bon_bon> can someone suggest some cool kernel patchset ?
[08:33] <mht> gamesss: run again cups: '/etc/init.d/cupsys start' and open OOo.
[08:34] <black13> sorry that was off topic
[08:34] <signius> LMAO if you hit f8 in wavemon for help it just says "dont panic"
[08:34] <mht> gamesss: to stop cups: '/etc/init.d/cupsys stop'
[08:34] <gamesss> yeah
[08:34] <dbernar1_> black13 and inaproppriate:) for the younger members...
[08:34] <mhz> thoreauputic: or maybe it's because i am trying Ubuntu x86 server with ubuntu ppc clients ????
[08:34] <gamesss> im doing the instructions 1 by 1
[08:34] <thoreauputic> mhz: umm - you need the ppc version , yeah :)
[08:34] <gamesss> wait a sec...
[08:34] <black13> i ment cartoon network
[08:34] <thoreauputic> mhz: on the mac of course...
[08:34] <black13> if that is better
[08:35] <dbernar1_> black13 I knew that...
[08:35] <thoreauputic> mhz: or whatever your ppc is ;)
[08:35] <josemi> gameness: I think stopping openoffice and /etc/init.d/cups restart should be enough
[08:35] <mhz> thoreauputic, but would it be logical to have issues mounting NFS from x86/PPC ?
[08:35] <signius> ok off to work bye for now all
[08:35] <cyberix> What is the function of the security reporsitory?
[08:35] <josemi> so try lp -u <username> as root
[08:35] <josemi> or privileged user.
[08:35] <mhz> mhz, IMHAINO, nop
[08:35] <cyberix> Is it for allowing user to upgrade nothing, but security related upgrades?
[08:35] <thoreauputic> mhz: no, my iBook mounts fine from my X86 boxes
[08:36] <cyberix> Couldn't this be done with the upgrade priorising?
[08:36] <dbernar1_> signius bye
[08:36] <mhz> thoreauputic, oh, envy is killing me :D
[08:36] <thoreauputic> mhz: :D
[08:36] <black13> seriously i would like to be able to build xorg
[08:36] <black13> without getting gett stack errors
[08:37] <mhz> black13, then, build it using standard debian ways
[08:37] <mhz> oh, i see
[08:37] <gamesss> MHT, you're my hero!!!
[08:37] <black13> mhz, seriously why debian but not ubuntu
[08:37] <gamesss> It works now........ and print successfully!
[08:37] <mhz> "...believe it or not, I'm walking on air"
[08:38] <thoreauputic> black13: Ubuntu uses the same tools as Debian
[08:38] <gamesss> mht, thanks a lot.... it works now... my printer........
[08:38] <mhz> black13, ubuntu IS debian
[08:38] <dbernar1_> wow, excellent, gamesss.
[08:38] <gamesss> I wont reformat this Ubuntu anymore....
[08:38] <thoreauputic> mhz: erm - not exactly
[08:38] <dbernar1_> mhz go tell that in 3debian
[08:38] <gamesss> yeah dbernar1_
[08:38] <dbernar1_> #debian
[08:38] <mhz> LOL
[08:38] <mhz> hehehehe
[08:38] <dbernar1_> or just come in, and type in !ubuntu
[08:38] <dbernar1_> that works too.
[08:38] <james> haha  ^
[08:38] <mhz> LOL
[08:38] <AvvY> how do i take a screen shot in xfce4?
[08:38] <gamesss> :)
[08:38] <black13> when i try to bulid xorg i get "__stack_smash_handler" errors ... that was a new one on me
[08:39] <click_wilson> Thank you for the help with the java it is downloading and installing now
[08:39] <james> how do you install xfce?
[08:39] <thoreauputic> AvvY: do you have the Gimp?
[08:39] <gamesss> thanks thanks a lot!!! :)
[08:39] <glDaher> hi ppl
[08:39] <james> ubuntu keeps giving me problems
[08:39] <dbernar1_> james, enable universe, and type in sudo aptitude install xfce4
[08:39] <AvvY> yes
[08:39] <james> i know that
[08:39] <thoreauputic> AvvY: use the GIMP (acquire I think)
[08:39] <dr_willis> Hmm.. Ubuntu has been very Rock solid for me.
[08:39] <james> and i apt-get install xfce
[08:39] <vinux> dbernar1_, what's aptitude I forgot?
[08:39] <mhz> dbernar1_, well, i have spoken to some (just a cuple) of french Debian developers, and after some laughs they accepted I used Ubuntu :)
[08:39] <dr_willis> actually theres 2 versions of xfce, 3 and 4..
[08:40] <glDaher> I wanna install gcc C++ in specific, the packange man say it is installed and a green icon next to them, but the commands c++ and g++ are not available..
[08:40] <dr_willis> apt-cache search xfce (to see them all)
[08:40] <Fr0Gs> i downloaded the driver from http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto and im having problems with it when every i drag a file accross the desktop it jams up and i have to reboot manually and it just jams up alot can someone please help
[08:40] <AvvY> thanx
[08:40] <vinux> dr_willis, i'm running xfce4 right now
[08:40] <click_wilson> I was introduced to ubuntu at a friends house tonight and switched my laptop over to it while i was there
[08:40] <dbernar1_> glDaher sudo aptitude install build-essential
[08:40] <thoreauputic> AvvY: file-- acquire -- screenshot ?
[08:40] <james> whenever i apt-get install xfce, i get md5sum mismatches... does ubuntu not keep it's mirrors up to date?
[08:40] <mhz> james, apt-get install xfce4
[08:40] <dbernar1_> vinux aptitude is the user interface to apt-get or so...
[08:40] <topyli> Fr0Gs: which driver?
[08:40] <vinux> dbernar1_, oh ok
[08:40] <james> mhz, ^
[08:40] <black13> anyone anyone ...
[08:41] <dbernar1_> james please type in /topic and hit enter
[08:41] <mht> gamesss: glad to see our problem solve :)
[08:41] <Fr0Gs> the 5.04 ubuntu 1
[08:41] <Fr0Gs> for ati
[08:41] <click_wilson> is there a graphic editing program out there similar to adobe cs for ubuntu
[08:41] <thoreauputic> james: also, don't apt-get install xfce - get xfce4, it's nicer
[08:41] <Fr0Gs> sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[08:41] <Fr0Gs> that 1
[08:41] <glDaher> thx dbernar1_ ... The following packages are not AUTHENTICATED:  g++ gcc build-essential
[08:41] <glDaher> :)
[08:41] <Madpilot> click_wilson: the GIMP; it installs w/ Ubuntu
[08:42] <james> i know, i always have used xfce
[08:42] <dbernar1_> use aptitude:p
[08:42] <mhz> in the meantime I try to solve this stupid NFS issue. Has anyone ever installed and run an HP2550 with Cups and printed Color pages???
[08:42] <topyli> Fr0Gs: ah, i have an ati card at work, gave up on it :(
[08:42] <click_wilson> ok thanks
[08:42] <dbernar1_> glDaher using marillat in sources.list?
[08:42] <markc> what is the "proper" way to update the nvidia driver package after a kernel package update to 2.6.12 (breezy) ?
[08:42] <dr_willis> Hmm - i got my ati9700 working in about 30 sec...
[08:42] <glDaher> I don't know dbernar1_
[08:42] <topyli> Fr0Gs: i'm sure someone has managed to get it working though
[08:42] <Fr0Gs> topyli lol
[08:42] <pinko> so, what does xfce have that's so nice?
[08:42] <dr_willis> well night.
[08:42] <dbernar1_> click_wilson use aptitude was not for you.
[08:42] <james> pin, it's clean
[08:43] <james> pinko, it's clean, fast, and stable
[08:43] <dbernar1_> pinko lower memory usage, good for slower comps..
[08:43] <pinko> anything to put it above other lightweight wms?
[08:43] <james> it's kinda like gnome junior :)
[08:43] <topyli> pinko: it's a desktop environment, comes with more goodies
[08:43] <dbernar1_> well, a modern interface, and nice looks for me personally...no desktop, tho...
[08:43] <thoreauputic> pinko: it's really a lightweight Desktop Environment
[08:43] <pinko> ah
[08:43] <james> it's not as minimal as other things, but it's not over the top like kde
[08:44] <mhz> also, Has anyone ever set SquirrelMail with NO SQL at all and use an AddressBook with more fields than "default" ???
[08:44] <dbernar1_> glDaher cat /etc/apt/sources.list search for marillat tell me if it is there.
[08:44] <vinux> markc, not sure but I used the ubuntu guide and it worked me through it with apt-get commands
[08:44] <glDaher> I did, but whats the domain name ?
[08:44] <pinko> I have some version of it on this libranet install.  haven't checked it out much.
[08:44] <glDaher> dbernar1_:  #flood
[08:44] <dbernar1_> glDaher has marillat in the name
[08:44] <co_cool> Jakarta
[08:44] <thoreauputic> glDaher: nerim.net or something
[08:45] <markc> vinux> thanks... all I could find is apt-get install nvidia-glx which deosnt work on breezy and I can't see how that has anything to do with the driver itlself, I'll keep googling
[08:45] <glDaher> what about this server?
[08:46] <dbernar1_> ok, glDaher just say you still want the packjages, even if it cant auth.
[08:46] <glDaher> ah ok
[08:46] <dbernar1_> tell me if it works
[08:47] <dbernar1_> whether, rather
[08:47] <topyli> ahh. accuracy!
[08:47] <mhz> thoreauputic, could you tell me if the dirs you're sharing via NFS have root.root or other owners? also, which rwx have you set??
[08:47] <doonz> anyone using an logitech mouse??
[08:47] <vinux> markc, well I don't quite understand how it installs it but I will tell you this. After I installed a new kernel I could use my glx drivers without configuring anythings which blow my mind!!!
[08:47] <doonz> mines going freakin insane
[08:47] <glDaher> I do
[08:47] <glDaher> vinux:
[08:48] <mhz> thoreauputic, all my questions related to the server side and the clients
[08:48] <vinux> glDaher, you do?
[08:48] <TokenBad> how do you unrar files in ubuntu?
[08:48] <glDaher> vinux: yes and it works fine
[08:48] <topyli> doonz: yes, i always use old mouse man mice until they melt in my hand
[08:48] <dbernar1_> he was prolly thinking about doonz, vinux
[08:48] <albacker> TokenBad, unrar
[08:48] <thoreauputic> mhz: hang on a sec
[08:48] <markc> vinux> wow, indeed.. trust me to mess around with breezy
[08:48] <thoreauputic> busy atm
[08:48] <mhz> doonz, I have a "creative, usb, optical 3 buttons mouse runing okidoki"
[08:48] <doonz> this is wierd it was fine on the other install but now it goes crazy and shit
[08:49] <dbernar1_> shit?>
[08:49] <dbernar1_> hehe.
[08:49] <doonz> like skitzo and then start opening crap
[08:49] <dbernar1_> anyhow, TokenBad using a 386 architecture? pentiumm...
[08:49] <pinko> anyone know if xmms skins can change its whole layout?  or is it just literally a skin.
[08:49] <TokenBad> amd
[08:49] <thoreauputic> mhz: you want my exports? they are only /home
[08:50] <dbernar1_> ok, aptitude search rar in a terminal
[08:50] <TokenBad> ??
[08:50] <topyli> pinko: they're just skins
[08:50] <mhz> thoreauputic, no proble, I've been hanging for so long now, that one or more hours wont' de a diff. Also, I'll be hung at 08:30 AM if I don have NFS, SquirrelMail (decent addressbook) and CUPS running)
[08:50] <zerokills> wooo, i got DOD workin
[08:51] <dbernar1_> TokenBad well, type in aptitude search rar in a terminal, tell me what you get, but dont paste more than 3 lines
[08:51] <mhz> thoreauputic, my server exports are home, too. but are they set to root.root or the same user.user in the client ?
[08:51] <thoreauputic> mhz: all my exports look like this dir /home  drwxr-xr-x  4 root root 4096 2005-05-03 20:37 /home
[08:51] <pinko> I don't like it's shape and size one bit, but oh well.
[08:51] <dbernar1_> Department of Defense?
[08:51] <TokenBad> p   partlibrary                     - Electrical and processing parts and symbo
[08:51] <TokenBad> p   rar                             - Archiver for .rar files
[08:51] <TokenBad> v   rar-2.80                        -
[08:51] <wulfepup> ok .. so on advice of other owners of the same laptop base I have.. I need to add "setpci -s 0:a.0 SUBORDINATE_BUS=0x0A" to my "/etc/init.d/pcmcia" file ....
[08:51] <zerokills> Day of Defeat, a game like Counter Strike but based on WWII
[08:52] <dbernar1_> ok, sudo aptitude install rar then
[08:52] <Euan> I got a new keyboard, I've managed to change the keymap using the gnome utility but it's not carried over to XFCE4.  Anyone know where XFCE4 gets its keymap from?
[08:52] <wulfepup> After looking at it .. I hae no idea WHERE to add it... any help?
[08:52] <maruko`> if i have a file which contains a list of badblocks made by `badblocks -b 1024 /dev/hda`. how do i convert that file so that it will work for a ext3 fs with a blocksize of 4096 ?
[08:52] <black13> tastycakes
[08:52] <mhz> thoreauputic, oh, so 1 line of paste is accepted? :D
[08:53] <thoreauputic> mhz: my mount points look like: drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 2005-05-18 12:02 /alterego
[08:53] <TokenBad> after it installs
[08:53] <TokenBad> just do unrar?
[08:53] <click_wilson> ok here is my last newbie question or so I think for the time being if I wanted to install new fonts would .ttf work and if so how would I install them from cd
[08:53] <thoreauputic> mhz: sure :D
[08:53] <jose> helo
[08:53] <dbernar1_> no, man rar, or trial and error rar is the command
[08:53] <dbernar1_> Hola
[08:53] <mhz> jose, que tal?
[08:53] <jose> bien gracias
[08:53] <mhz> hehe
[08:54] <TokenBad> hmm
[08:54] <TokenBad> it work with thosr r00 to rwhatever files
[08:54] <dbernar1_> man rar being a command you type  into a terminal
[08:54] <stjepan> I can not install xfce4
[08:54] <da_bon_bon> which patches does ubuntu use ?
[08:54] <jose> hoo sabes ace poco que me lanse con linux y estoy facinado y quiero puro aprender
[08:54] <stjepan> sudo apt-get install xfce4
[08:55] <dbernar1_> stjepan, sudo aptitude install xfce4 does what?
[08:55] <mhz> jose, bienvenido al club
[08:55] <thoreauputic> stjepan: it's in universe i think
[08:55] <jose>  gracias
[08:55] <mhz> "quiero puro aprender" sounded very Chilean like :D
[08:55] <topyli> da_bon_bon: patches?
[08:55] <thoreauputic> stjepan: you arent using the us. server, are you?
[08:55] <jose> :D jajaaa
[08:56] <da_bon_bon> topyli: yes. i dont think it uses plain vanilla ?
[08:56] <stjepan> thoreauputic, yes I use
[08:56] <topyli> da_bon_bon: ah, kernel?
[08:56] <da_bon_bon> topyli: oh! ya :)
[08:56] <stjepan> Errors were encountered while processing: emacs21, cedet-common, speedbar, eieio
[08:56] <thoreauputic> stjepan: well, if you are using the us mirrors, read the /topic
[08:57] <topyli> da_bon_bon: i guess it has all the debian patches, plus some
[08:57] <TokenBad> thanks dbernar1_, the info helped..and I figured it out
[08:57] <jose> aqui parese que hay gente de todos lados
[08:57] <dbernar1_> TokenBad good stuff, then I did my good deed for the night, night guys;)
[08:57] <da_bon_bon> topyli: oh..
[08:57] <mhz> si pues.
[08:57] <da_bon_bon> ok
[08:57] <TokenBad> take care dbernar1_
[08:57] <wulfepup> does anyone know their way around the /etc/init.d/pcmcia file? I need to add a command but can't figure out where to put it...
[08:57] <jose> y tu mhz de donde heres  ?
[08:58] <mhz> jose, but mostly english speaking, I do not know if they get pissed if we speak spanish in here
[08:58] <mhz> jose, I'm from CHILE!
[08:58] <thoreauputic> mhz: it's not encouraged ;)
[08:58] <mhz> thoreauputic, LOL
[08:59] <mhz> thoreauputic, "english, please... and do not paste more than 1 line" :D
[08:59] <thoreauputic> right :)
[08:59] <topyli> da_bon_bon: look at /usr/share/doc/linux-image-2.6.XXX
[08:59] <albacker> guys i installed firefox with apt-get [the new firefox version]  and i was root. now when i open firefox from a root terminal with `firefox` command it opens the new one. when i open that from the user terminal i see the old one. . . can anyone help me ??
[08:59] <thoreauputic> mais pour moi, c'est different ;-)
[08:59] <da_bon_bon> topyli: cant ** dont have ubuntu
[08:59] <da_bon_bon> :)
[09:00] <topyli> da_bon_bon: oh :)
[09:00] <TokenBad> damn..tried to play a movie and it says that oss device /dev/dsp is in use by another program
[09:00] <mhz> jose, and you?
[09:00] <topyli> da_bon_bon: download the ubuntu linux-source package and peek inside :)
[09:00] <jose> quiero aprender a programar en linux esque yo estudio computacion pero estoy recien empezando y me gustaria aprender a programar en linux
[09:00] <TokenBad> anyone know how to fix it?
[09:00] <albacker> can someone help me please with the firefox problem i posted before
[09:01] <da_bon_bon> topyli: oh.. didnt realize that :)
[09:01] <jose> me podrian ayudar por favor
[09:01] <mhz> albacker, very wired problem
[09:01] <wulfepup> albacker, try upgrading using synaptic
[09:01] <albacker> mhz, maybe i need a reboot ?
[09:02] <mhz> albacker, what if you copy the original .mozilla in the user dir. Then, launch firefox and see what happnes
[09:02] <thoreauputic> albacker: you got it from backports, didn't you ?
[09:02] <mhz> albacker, NOP!
[09:02] <albacker> thoreauputic, ??
[09:02] <mhz>  albacker I meant, no, don't need to
[09:02] <thoreauputic> albacker: where did you get the other one? apt or elsewhere?
[09:02] <mhz> apt
[09:03] <albacker> thoreauputic, one of the files :: Get:1 ftp://sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch unstable/main libgcc1 1:4.0.0-9 [84.1kB] 
[09:03] <thoreauputic> albacker: ?? what does that have to do with firefox?
[09:03] <mhz> albacker, whwn you apt-get packages, they get updated automagically
[09:03] <mhz> AFAIK
[09:03] <TokenBad> what was the one command for killing eds or whatever
[09:03] <TokenBad> killall eds
[09:03] <TokenBad> or something
[09:04] <thoreauputic> thoreauputic: was that a debian repo?
[09:04] <thoreauputic> oops
[09:04] <mhz> jose, you can start learning python
[09:04] <thoreauputic> albacker: ^^^
[09:04] <albacker> thoreauputic, i did apt-get install mozilla-firefox and that is one of the files which i got :S
[09:04] <thoreauputic> TokenBad: esd
[09:04] <thoreauputic> TokenBad: killall esd
[09:04] <TokenBad> ahh
[09:04] <TokenBad> that was why it wasn't working
[09:04] <TokenBad> had it backwards
[09:04] <albacker> so i should apt-get uninstall firefox . . . and than get it from another repo ?
[09:04] <thoreauputic> :)
[09:05] <thoreauputic> gotta go, people - good luck mhz
[09:06] <TokenBad> take care thoreauputic
[09:06] <TokenBad> and thanks
[09:06] <mhz> thoreauputic, thanks, good luck to ya too
[09:07] <wulfepup> I need to edit my /etc/init.d/pcmcia file ... I need to add a command (setpci  -s 0:a.0 SUBORDINATE_BUS=0x0A) but can't figure out where to put it...
[09:08] <albacker> where is the repos list stored ??
[09:08] <albacker> /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:08] <albacker> this one ?
[09:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> yes
[09:09] <Madpilot> short of actually sticking it into a computer, how can I test a Ubuntu Live CD I just burned?
[09:09] <albacker> and can someone help me with a repo list ?
[09:09] <albacker> deb http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu warty main multiverse universe
[09:09] <albacker> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main
[09:09] <albacker> deb ftp://sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch/mirror/debian/ unstable main contrib non-freee
[09:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> no!
[09:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> don't past here  :S
[09:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> but yes i can help you
[09:09] <albacker> i have these 3 but one of them seems to be debian one
[09:10] <albacker> sorry Kaloz
[09:10] <albacker> Kamping_Kaiser, **
[09:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> ;)
[09:10] <duken> hi
[09:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> the bottom 2 are Debian
[09:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi duken
[09:10] <albacker> Kamping_Kaiser, where can i find some others for ubuntu ?
[09:10] <sas-couch> recently ive noticed when i do an apt-get upgrade, its been trying to download a kernel that i already had installed, and then removed using apt, but it tries to install it and then gives me an error saying dpkg returned error code 11
[09:10] <duken> where i get bootslash ? what repositoy mys be add ?
[09:10] <sas-couch> anyone know how to fix this?
[09:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> albacker, which do you want?
[09:11] <duken> Kamping_Kaiser, hi
[09:11] <albacker> Kamping_Kaiser, i want some other ubuntu repos. because the debian one gave me some problems . . . like the firefox one i pasted before.
[09:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> albacker, head over to #flood
[09:12] <click_wilson> ok the java still did not install correctly and i am sitting here scratching my head because I followed everything it said to do
[09:12] <mic__> #flood
[09:13] <mic__> /join #flood
[09:13] <albacker> yeah im in flood
[09:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> pasted
[09:14] <albacker> thanks
[09:14] <albacker> the source one
[09:14] <albacker> get tar.gz ?? right ?
[09:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm.?
[09:15] <litheum> bob2: looks like the problem was my CD. thanks for the help
[09:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> albacker, eveything in this file is ok, execpt the backports section, i havent updated it for a while - http://users.on.net/~goetz/itshare/usl/UbuntuSourcesListPointingAtUbuntu
[09:15] <madsen> Hey, what's the name of the current unstable Ubuntu?
[09:15] <madsen> And just _how_ unstable is it?
[09:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> breezy
[09:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> very
[09:15] <madsen> Oh
[09:15] <madsen> Kamping_Kaiser: Thanks.
[09:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> take my word for it ;)
[09:15] <madsen> Kamping_Kaiser: So it's not like Debian sid, where it's not really that unstable...
[09:16] <bob2> litheum: ah, np
[09:16] <albacker> Kamping_Kaiser, thanks ;)
[09:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> madsen,
[09:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> the breezy release is just becoming sid stable
[09:16] <litheum> bob2: probably wouldn't have thought to do that myself since i tried a few different kernels on the CD and they all gave the same error... and i've used this CD successfully before as well. who knows.
[09:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> untill a few weeks ago it was *beond un stable*
[09:16] <jblack> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/i/imlib+png2/gdk-imlib1_1.9.14-16.2ubuntu2_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[09:16] <madsen> Kamping_Kaiser: Hehe, ok.
[09:17] <hiThere> hey on my old distro i did $ service network restart
[09:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> jblack, US repos are bad
[09:17] <hiThere> what do i do in ubuntu?
[09:17] <wulfepup> jblack, check /topic
[09:17] <Kamping_Kaiser>  /etc/init.d/network restart
[09:17] <madsen> hiThere: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[09:17] <albacker> Kamping_Kaiser, Ign http://archive.Ubuntu.com warty/restricted Release
[09:17] <albacker> Err http://archive.Ubuntu.com warty/universe Sources
[09:17] <albacker>   404 Not Found [IP: 82.211.81.138 80] 
[09:18] <jblack> Ok. THanks
[09:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> just a tic
[09:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> albacker, should probably #flood those or PM me
[09:18] <hiThere> :D
[09:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> was that from my list?
[09:18] <wulfepup> I could use a hand with my /etc/init.d/pcmcia  (based on http://wiki.cynapses.org/index.php/TIP_HP_Pavilion_zv5000_Notebook#PCMCIA.2FCardBus_support )
[09:19] <hiThere> madsen, thanks :D
[09:19] <madsen> hiThere: np :)
[09:19] <madsen> Wtf does mplayer depend on xmms?
[09:19] <lennart> is it possible to add more sources for apt-get?
[09:19] <sas-couch> so anyone have a solution to my dpkg error?
[09:19] <hiThere> pain the don't apend it to #path#
[09:19] <sas-couch> yea, edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:19] <albacker> Kamping_Kaiser, i pasted it in Flo0d
[09:19] <shanon> Does anyone know how to get firefox working with macromedia director files ?
[09:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> gtg albacker - bb in 5 minutes.
[09:20] <lennart> sas-couch, and where can I find more sources?
[09:20] <mhz> shanon, I don't think that is possible
[09:20] <shanon> mhz: 8(
[09:20] <albacker> Kamping_Kaiser, ok
[09:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> albacker
[09:20] <shanon> damn I have to boot windows then
[09:20] <mhz> shanon, did you google
[09:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> try taking off the capital U in Ubuntu
[09:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> my chat client corrects it to a cap, it shouldent be :S
[09:20] <shanon> mhz: Yes. Cna't find anything useful
[09:21] <mhz> shanon, unless you run WINe
[09:21] <mhz> or something like that
[09:21] <sas-couch> www.ubuntuguide.org
[09:21] <sas-couch> that site has plenty of solutions for everything
[09:21] <wulfepup> shanon, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats has details for flash and shockwave plugins
[09:21] <shanon> mhz: Yeah I haven't gotten around to setting up wine yet. I don't need it for anything else
[09:21] <ivoks> ms word is frustrating...
[09:22] <shanon> wulfepup: I have installed the mozillia-flash doesn't do shockwave director though.
[09:22] <mhz> shanon, not even games??
[09:22] <shanon> mhz: Don't really play games
[09:22] <wulfepup> ivoks, so use OpenOffice.org
[09:22] <wulfepup> shanon, ahhh  ok
[09:23] <ivoks> wulfepup you don't know how much i would love to do that
[09:23] <ivoks> wulfepup but i have .doc with autocad OLE objects in it
[09:23] <cletus> my eyes are bleeding....refresh rate hurtz...
[09:23] <wulfepup> ivoks, sorry :(
[09:23] <mhz> shanon, me neither. And never get back to MS even if I miss Macromedia badly :D
[09:24] <josemi> cletus: lol
[09:24] <cletus> how do i "sudo" to root?
[09:24] <josemi> sudo passwd root
[09:24] <shanon> mhz: I need it to use a Uni tutorial site
[09:24] <josemi> su root
[09:24] <shanon> mhz: So no choice
[09:24] <wulfepup> I could use a hand with my /etc/init.d/pcmcia  (based on http://wiki.cynapses.org/index.php/TIP_HP_Pavilion_zv5000_Notebook#PCMCIA.2FCardBus_support )
[09:24] <cletus> i never setup  a root password...
[09:25] <josemi> cletus: do it, sudo passwd root
[09:25] <zyiro_> mhz  install crossover and you wont be needing to miss macromedia anymore ...
[09:25] <mhz> shanon, may the force be with ya then
[09:25] <mhz> zyiro_, ??
[09:25] <wulfepup> cletus, do you really need a permanent root account? just use the root terminal or sudo on a case by case basis....
[09:25] <lennart>  Couldn't stat source package list http://se.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe  Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/se.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_universe_ binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[09:25] <lennart>  I get this error after uncomment two lines in /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:26] <shanon> lennart: do a reload
[09:26] <zyiro_> you said you missed macromedia,  i run all the new mcromedia MX studio on ubuntu as wellas photoshop and all... theres just some app's that i have to use for work purposes
[09:26] <shanon> zyiro_: Just the plugin
[09:26] <josemi> wewulfepup: ...the roout account *exists* by default so you don't know wich passwd is set.
[09:27] <lennart> shanon, I have never used apt-get before. How do I do that?
[09:27] <josemi> so you can set it by doing sudo passwd root. simple.
[09:27] <cletus> errr...sudo passwd root asks for a password
[09:27] <josemi> of course
[09:27] <shanon> lennart: sudo apt-get update
[09:27] <josemi> the passwd TO SET
[09:27] <shanon> lennart: or do a reload in synaptic
[09:27] <lennart> thanks
[09:27] <shanon> np
[09:28] <demantik> any idea why this is happening..compling one of the modules for luminocity... Makefile:531: Extraneous text after `endif' directive
[09:28] <demantik> Makefile:531: *** extraneous `endif'.  Stop.
[09:28] <zyiro_> oh lol i suppose i shouldnt jump in the middle of another convo   .....
[09:28] <zyiro_> ph well im slow these days
[09:28] <cletus> how can I make a root password
[09:28] <demantik> *compiling
[09:28] <thesamet> I have an ubuntu hoary system at work with no internet connection. I want to install lyx there. How can I know which deb files I'm missing assuming it is a base ubuntu system
[09:28] <thesamet> ?
[09:28] <josemi> cletus: sudo passwd root and enter 2 times your passwd
[09:28] <josemi> the passwd you want to set
[09:28] <cletus> it keeps saying sorry, try again
[09:28] <mhz> zyiro_, is crossover apt-getable?
[09:28] <josemi> enter the SAME passwd
[09:28] <josemi> 2 times
[09:28] <josemi> :P
[09:29] <zyiro_> no its not... unfortunatly its one of those coughnon-free cough linux applications
[09:29] <cletus> i did
[09:29] <josemi> cletus
[09:29] <cletus> sudo: 3 incorrect password attempts
[09:29] <josemi> ok then you should be able to do "su root"
[09:29] <topyli> thesamet: join #flood and i'll paste the dependencies for lyx-qt there
[09:29] <josemi> or login as root using this passwd
[09:30] <josemi> you can continue using sudo anyway.
[09:30] <cletus> su: Authentication failure
[09:30] <sas-couch> just type 'su'
[09:30] <sas-couch> dont need root
[09:30] <demantik> annnyybooddy..
[09:30] <sas-couch> and put in your passwd
[09:30] <josemi> well... su - != su root
[09:30] <josemi> so..
[09:30] <BurgerMann> Hi, does KDE have anything similar to MS Macros?
[09:30] <transgress> hey i know you can rip a cd with rhythmbox but what format does it rip to?
[09:30] <cletus> it is screwed
[09:30] <transgress> BurgerMann: try #kubuntu
[09:31] <mhz> demantik, I can't  sorry
[09:31] <transgress> BurgerMann: or #kde
[09:31] <demantik> ok
[09:31] <josemi> cletus: try to login in as root in a tty
[09:31] <wulfepup> transgress, on a default install.. the default is ogg  but you can change that to FLAC
[09:31] <josemi> using the passwd you give to "sudo passwd root"
[09:31] <josemi> gave
[09:32] <cletus> it would never let me enter a password
[09:32] <transgress> wulfepup: heh yeah thanks.  i just decided i'd check the prefs _after_ i asked... yay for ogg
[09:32] <josemi> passwd
[09:32] <josemi> New UNIX password:
[09:32] <josemi> ...
[09:32] <topyli> thesamet: you'll want a reasonable tetex installation as well of course
[09:32] <wulfepup> cletus .. the sudo password is your own log in password .. then you can enter the new root password
[09:33] <litheum> sweet jesus how much stuff is ubuntu installing on my computer. "gstreamer"? what is that! "libshout"??
[09:33] <viork> http://viork2.blogspot.com/
[09:33] <viork> http://viork2.blogspot.com/
[09:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> back
[09:34] <cletus> there is no root password
[09:34] <viork> noticias en espaol
[09:34] <thesamet> topyli: if it's not too much to ask, can you make it do it again for latex?
[09:34] <thesamet> topyli: or just teach me how to do this
[09:34] <wulfepup> Broken Record, re-request: I could use a hand with my /etc/init.d/pcmcia  (based on http://wiki.cynapses.org/index.php/TIP_HP_Pavilion_zv5000_Notebook#PCMCIA.2FCardBus_support )
[09:35] <cletus> ok it works now,  I just closed the terminal and started another one.  For some reason, it let me do it now.  :)
[09:36] <steph> hey guys, im installing the new ati driver... how do i run a .run file?
[09:36] <josemi> cletus: do this step by step 1) sudo passwd root [set a passwd now]  2) su - [enter the pass you gave]  3) try login using a tty: login root passwd: the same
[09:36] <Tomcat_> steph: Usually chmod +x <file> then ./<file>
[09:36] <steph> ok, thank you
[09:36] <josemi> cletus: it HAS TO work.
[09:36] <cletus> i did it works now thanks :)
[09:37] <josemi> ok
[09:37] <josemi> good :)
[09:37] <cletus> i musta had a bad terminal or somehing
[09:37] <josemi> surely
[09:37] <deFrysk> sh <file> might do the trick too
[09:37] <cletus> can i Xorg -configure now and fix my refresh rate?
[09:37] <topyli> thesamet: since you have no network on the ubuntu machine, it's best to search the packages on http://packages.ubuntu.com/ and find the dependencies there
[09:37] <steph> deFrysk, sh did it =)
[09:37] <josemi> don't use special chars on your passwd, to fix possible problems.
[09:37] <deFrysk> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:37] <josemi> with encoding,etc.
[09:38] <zerokills> "Ready to play in approximately: 379 minutes 12 seconds"
[09:38] <zerokills> thats a long wait
[09:38] <josemi> yeap
[09:38] <josemi> take a coffee
[09:38] <josemi> or play something
[09:38] <zerokills> i just finished my coffee
[09:39] <cletus> deFrysk thanks
[09:39] <josemi> take another one... slowly
[09:39] <josemi> xD
[09:39] <zerokills> :)
[09:39] <topyli> thesamet: you'll learn there that tetex-base and tetex-bin with their dependencies are needed, and they both have other dependencies and so on and so on :)
[09:39] <josemi> 9:37 am here in spain (good time for a coffee)
[09:39] <iceman> Any one know mac's well, I want to get a mac to run Ubuntu on, but need a cheap mac to put it on ...
[09:40] <josemi> he he
[09:40] <zerokills> 2:39 am here, i live in the night, sleep during the day hehe
[09:40] <madsen> zerokills: With BfW you can easilly spend 379 minutes in 5-10 minutes. :-p
[09:40] <josemi> iceman: install Gentoo :P
[09:40] <wulfepup> ahhh crap .. time for bed ...  nighters all
[09:40] <josemi> see ya wulfepup
[09:40] <zerokills> madsen: BfW?
[09:40] <synd> iceman: how cheap?
[09:40] <zerokills> night wulfepup
[09:40] <madsen> zerokills: Battle for Wesnoth.
[09:40] <wulfepup> maybe next t ime I'll get the /etc/init.d/pcmcia help
[09:40] <iceman> josemi na .. want to learn linux, feel i will get a mac to put in on ...
[09:40] <synd> iceman: just make sure its a NewWorld mac
[09:41] <madsen> zerokills: Open Source game: http://wesnoth.org
[09:41] <zerokills> madsen: sweet, ill check it out right now, thanks
[09:41] <josemi> iceman: :)
[09:41] <iceman> synd g3 292 mhz ... work ok ?
[09:41] <holy_cow> nifty
[09:41] <madsen> zerokills: np. :)
[09:41] <josemi> iceman: of course
[09:41] <iceman> Product Family:  PowerBook G3    Operating System:  Mac OS 9
[09:41] <iceman>  Processor Speed:  292 MHz    Screen Size:  --
[09:41] <iceman>  Hard Drive Capacity:  8 GB    Condition:  --
[09:41] <iceman>  Memory (RAM):  64 MB
[09:41] <synd> iceman: for sure
[09:41] <iceman> that
[09:41] <holy_cow> if you right click on the the volume control and do properties, you can select which device it controls volume for
[09:41] <holy_cow> v v cool
[09:41] <synd> iceman: try to up the ram..
[09:41] <synd> imo
[09:42] <josemi> yeap, so it will work
[09:42] <zerokills> madsen: btw, do you use cedega?
[09:42] <iceman> synd whats a good amount of ram .. 128 ..
[09:42] <josemi> 192
[09:42] <josemi> or 164
[09:42] <synd> iceman: id max it out
[09:42] <madsen> zerokills: No, I don't think so... What is it?
[09:42] <josemi> may help
[09:42] <synd> if possible
[09:42] <synd> cant ever have too much RAM :)
[09:42] <topyli> madsen: latest wesnoth always: deb http://debian.wesnoth.org/sid/ ./
[09:42] <iceman> i will... would 64 work ... then up in a short time
[09:42] <zerokills> madsen: its a windows emulator, so you can install Windows games
[09:42] <synd> it would work.. with fluxbox or xfce
[09:42] <madsen> topyli: Nice! I was wondering how to get that. :)
[09:43] <topyli> madsen: it's a tweaked wine, non-free
[09:43] <madsen> zerokills: Oh! Well, I don't really do games. Only Heroes of Might and Magic III (for Linux) and Wesnoth.
[09:43] <iceman> synd ... less than 200 for the systems as is right now ... but don't mind adding to it in stages
[09:43] <zerokills> madsen: they all free?
[09:43] <madsen> And then of course my SNES emulator and a shitload of roms and two USB-joypads.
[09:43] <hatred> evening all
[09:43] <click_wilson> ok I am having some major issues with trying to get java installed still
[09:43] <madsen> zerokills: Well, HoMM3 isn't of course.
[09:44] <madsen> zerokills: But wesnoth is. :)
[09:44] <synd> iceman: i see
[09:44] <hatred> hey, i've run out of space in my ' / ' dir
[09:44] <zerokills> madsen: what type of game is wesnoth?
[09:44] <hatred> i've got another 6 gig i could add to that, though i'm not sure about how to do that
[09:44] <hatred> :s
[09:45] <madsen> zerokills: Uhm, kinda hard to explain... Adventure/strategy-ish... Take a look at the screenshots at wesnoth.org
[09:45] <topyli> hatred: logs could fill /, or apt cache, or a runaway /tmp. find and fix the problem :)
[09:45] <zerokills> madsen: yea im checkin it out right now
[09:45] <steph> i cant get the new ati drivers working
[09:46] <steph> ati's new install program apparently excludes Xorg all together
[09:46] <madsen> topyli: Hmm, the version on the repo you just gave me is old...
[09:46] <zerokills> madsen: do i extract from .tar.gz the same way as .deb with sudo dpkg -i?
[09:46] <madsen> zerokills: Uhm, no... The tar.gz is most likely the source... Wesnoth?
[09:47] <topyli> madsen: it is? they must be maintaining it badly these days :(
[09:47] <hatred> topyli heh, yea i've taken a look around and delete all that i know is uneccesary however that hasn't heped to much
[09:47] <hatred> i think i got rid of like 26 mb :
[09:47] <hatred> :\
[09:47] <zerokills> madsen: yea, im new to linux so i might need a little help installing
[09:47] <cletus> yay I am making baby steps...i can get my refresh to 85 hz now, but why not 100hz?
[09:47] <click_wilson> ok can someone please help java not likeing me at all tonight
[09:47] <madsen> topyli: It's 0.8.9 as far as I can see, but latest version is 0.9.2. :-/
[09:47] <lennart> where can I find my X server configuration file?
[09:48] <madsen> zerokills: Just: sudo apt-get install wesnoth  should do it.
[09:48] <josemi> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:48] <zerokills> madsen: sweet, thanks
[09:48] <topyli> hatred: try du /var/cache/apt/archives/
[09:48] <madsen> zerokills: Then it'll download and setup everything you need for it to run. :)
[09:48] <topyli> du -h rathere
[09:48] <josemi> lennart: /etc/X11/xorg.conf or find / -name <this>
[09:48] <hatred> topyli: yea?
[09:48] <hatred> ah ok
[09:48] <hatred> du -h
[09:49] <madsen> zerokills: So just delete the tar.gz again. :)
[09:49] <hatred> aah i see
[09:49] <hatred> so how do i clear apt's cache topyli ?
[09:49] <hatred> sorry if that's a stupid question, i'd google it myself only i'm not too confident with links and currently have no gui :|
[09:49] <eyequeue> hatred:  sudo apt-get clean
[09:49] <topyli> hatred: i don't really know how to do it cleanly.
[09:49] <topyli> ah
[09:49] <hatred> ah cool ty eyequeue :)
[09:50] <eyequeue> np
[09:50] <hatred> hey it looks like that's worked,
[09:51] <hatred> cool, for now i've got a gui,  from here i should be able to work out giving my / dir another 6 gig to play with
[09:51] <protocolX> Hi, I downloaded the latest version of ubuntu iso image and tried to install it from CD. The CD boots ok then it ask me to choose language, keyboard, locatin etc. After that It tried to get read package from CD and it fails. It gives me error that it can not read the CD device. Anybody knows what's wrong in here.
[09:51] <madsen> Hmm, how do I make cp NOT overwrite existing files? (Without -i, because then I'll have to hit 'No' for every file.)
[09:51] <hatred> thankyou topyli and eyequeue you've been most helpful :D
[09:51] <topyli> madsen: looks like the backports repo has wesnoth 0.9.1
[09:51] <madsen> topyli: Nice! :)
[09:51] <hatred> brb, swapping to gui :
[09:51] <hatred> :p
[09:51] <josemi> protocolX: maybe your CD is crashed
[09:51] <madsen> topyli: What's the URL of that repo?
[09:52] <zerokills> damnit, my wireless mouse ran out of battery again
[09:52] <topyli> madsen: i have this: deb ftp://ftp2.caliu.info/backports/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse bleeding
[09:52] <topyli> madsen: don't enable it permanently, it'll update the whole system :\
[09:52] <protocolX> I can always boot the CD and goes little further with language,keyboard selection ect. But always fails when reading package info. from CD.
[09:53] <protocolX> josemi: I don't think anything to do with crashing CD.
[09:53] <madsen> topyli: Hmm, so just enable it, run apt-get update, install wesnoth, disable the repo and then apt-get update again... Or what?
[09:54] <protocolX> This is very weird problem.
[09:54] <madsen> topyli: or pinning?
[09:54] <topyli> madsen: yeah. do a search on wesnoth before installing. it has some extra goodies too :)
[09:54] <madsen> topyli: K, I will. :)
[09:55] <topyli> madsen: pinning is overkill for a single non-critical package IMO
[09:55] <madsen> topyli: Hehe, you're right. :)
[09:56] <madsen> topyli: But I guess I'll have to 'hold' wesnoth then or it'll just be downgraded during next upgrade... Or what?
[09:56] <topyli> madsen: no, apt doesn't downgrade
[09:56] <madsen> topyli: It did on one of my friends's system... Actually with wesnoth...
[09:57] <topyli> madsen: it just makes sure you have the latest
[09:57] <madsen> topyli: He might have run a dist-upgrade though...
[09:57] <topyli> madsen: weird
[09:58] <madsen> topyli: Yeah, I didn't get it either.. I've been using debian for like 3 years and never seen anything like that happen...
[09:58] <parabolize> I need the 7664 nvidia driver so my GF6200 will work but I can't get it to install. My FX5700LE works with the 7174 version from ubuntu but the 7664 from nvidia won't install. I have removed the nvidia .deb packages. Here is the log http://users.adelphia.net/~phann8/nvidia-installer.log. I tried ldconfig and rm /usr/lib/libGL.*
[09:58] <topyli> madsen: could happen because of dependencies. but what depends on wesnoth? :)
[09:58] <madsen> topyli: Anyways, thanks for the help with the wesnoth packages. :) Installing them now and getting a bite to eat. :)
[09:58] <madsen> topyli: hehe
[09:58] <Hhhhh> parabolize: nice card btw
[09:59] <parabolize> what the 5700LE? its not that bad in linux
[10:00] <parabolize> I got the 6200 because the 5700LE is to hot and I hear the 6200 plays dvd better
[10:04] <parabolize> I think some openGL file is in the way but I can't find it
[10:05] <kvidell> ah.. there we go
[10:05] <kvidell> got BX setup on the BSD box I keep my IRC screen sessions on
[10:05] <kvidell> epic is nice but.... I like colours :)
[10:06] <greg> how do i enable DMA for my cdroms drive, it seems to be disable per default ?
[10:07] <Battletux> hey has anyone tried to install gnump3d lately? there is an issue with the md5
[10:07] <kvidell> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30949&highlight=enable+dma
[10:07] <Battletux> greg: www.ubuntuguide.org
[10:07] <kvidell> my link is a nice little how to on enabling dma specifically designed for CD devices :)
[10:07] <cletus> can I access my ntfs disk from ubuntu?
[10:08] <Battletux> cletus: goto www.ubuntuguide.org/
[10:08] <parabolize> where else would a libGL file be besides /usr/lib and /usr/X11R6/lib?
[10:08] <kvidell> cletus: Yea, add something that looks like this to your /etc/fstab file: /dev/hda1 /media/windows ntfs ro,umask=0222 0 0
[10:08] <pepsi> parabolize, ask locate
[10:09] <albacker> BYe guys !
[10:09] <kvidell> Battletux: Try to actually help people before telling them to shove off. This is an RTFM-free environment :)
[10:09] <bob2> well
[10:09] <bob2> pointing people politely at documentatin is fine
[10:09] <bob2> repeating docs on irc is silly
[10:10] <eyequeue> Battletux:  /topic
[10:10] <pepsi> hi bob2
[10:10] <bob2> aloha
[10:10] <cletus> thankyou _
[10:10] <cletus> :)
[10:10] <eyequeue> Battletux:  for the md5
[10:10] <parabolize> locate libGL. shows nothing and libGL shows some GLU stuff but thats not open gl is it?
[10:11] <bob2> parabolize: xlibmesa-gl provides it
[10:11] <pepsi> i see libGL in /usr/lib and /usr/X11R6/lib
[10:11] <kvidell> bob2: I wouldn't have said anything but it coming up twice in a row with nothing in between kind of irked me... that and I'm feeling silly 'cause I just got "contributor" o nthe fourm ;) hehe.
[10:12] <parabolize> pepsi: you have nivida installed don't you. ;)
[10:12] <eyequeue> /usr/lib/libGLU.so.1
[10:12] <parabolize> ya but is that open gl
[10:12] <parabolize> ?
[10:13] <bob2> parabolize: no
[10:13] <zerokills> madsen: is there a way to run wesnoth in a window?
[10:13] <bob2> parabolize: xlibmesa-gl provides the file
[10:14] <eyequeue> xlibmesa-gl: /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1
[10:14] <eyequeue> libglu1-xorg: /usr/X11R6/lib/libGLU.so.1
[10:14] <vago19> wenas
[10:14] <xirtam> i changed from debian/sid to ubuntu in a running system ... i get some dependency problems now .. because of newer packages in debian/sid ...
[10:15] <vago19> hello
[10:15] <xirtam> anybody knows how i can force to install some packages ... or any other way to get rid of this problemes?
[10:15] <eyequeue> xirtam:  apt-get install foo/hoary
[10:15] <zerokills> hello vago19
[10:15] <vago19> hello i am spanish
[10:16] <eyequeue> xirtam:  apt-get --reinstall install foo/hoary perhaps, if needed
[10:16] <vago19> how are a one girl in this chat
[10:16] <zerokills> haha
[10:17] <NicP> vago19, what?
[10:17] <zerokills> he left
[10:17] <NicP> ohh
[10:17] <NicP> couldnt understand him anyway
[10:17] <NicP> :P
[10:17] <zerokills> haha, guess he didnt realize this is for tech support
[10:18] <xirtam> eyequeue: does not work ... ;(
[10:18] <NicP> it is?
[10:18] <zerokills> lol
[10:18] <xirtam> eyequeue: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/python2.4-pyorbit_2.0.1-1ubuntu5_i386.deb (--unpack):
[10:18] <xirtam>  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/pkgconfig/pyorbit-2.pc', which is also in package python2.3-pyorbit
[10:18] <zerokills> well, and talking about linux
[10:18] <eyequeue> xirtam:  what precisely would you like to do?
[10:19] <eyequeue> xirtam:  oh boy
[10:19] <xirtam> eyequeue: ?
[10:19] <eyequeue> xirtam:  this is why people usually say debian and ubuntu repositories should not be mixed
[10:20] <zerokills> NicP: how do you do that? im new to IRC
[10:20] <mhz> re
[10:20] <xirtam> eyequeue: yes i know ... ;( but i did allready ...
[10:20] <NicP> how do i do what?
[10:20] <NicP> ohh type /me bleh
[10:20] <eyequeue> xirtam:  yes, not sure what to advise
[10:20] <zerokills> ahhh
[10:20] <zerokills> tight
[10:20] <plod[wk] > how do i leave my email messages on server for a set amount of days with evolution?
[10:20] <patrick_> wow, I actually installed my first distro!
[10:20] <eyequeue> patrick_:  congrats
[10:21] <NicP> its hard hey patrick_
[10:21] <NicP> ;)
[10:21] <xirtam> eyequeue: can i force to remove this packages ... ? to reinstall them from ubuntu ... ?
[10:21] <patrick_> been trying like hell for 6 months.. finally I tried ubuntu today and whamo.. success! , thanks guys
[10:21] <eyequeue> xirtam:  i suppose you could try
[10:21] <Phreakazoid> hooray for unbuntu :)
[10:21] <zerokills> patrick_: welcome to the freeworld
[10:21] <Phreakazoid> ubuntu
[10:21] <Phreakazoid> rather
[10:21] <patrick_> aye, it's nice to have some control :)
[10:22] <Phreakazoid> I'm happy that my ISP has mirrored the ubuntu apt repository
[10:22] <Phreakazoid> hooray :)
[10:22] <ubuntu_> Does anyone use an IBM ThinkPad?
[10:22] <kvidell> ubuntu_: I do.
[10:22] <patrick_> I do
[10:22] <patrick_> !
[10:22] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, patrick_
[10:22] <ubuntu_> Excellent.
[10:22] <kvidell> T30 and T42p
[10:22] <xirtam> eyequeue: but how can i remove them?/
[10:22] <kvidell> My fiance has an R51 :)
[10:22] <patrick_> T43 266872U
[10:22] <ubuntu_> I am having problems with my R31.
[10:23] <kvidell> patrick_: what're the specs on that model? Mine's got the 15" display @ 1600x1200 + 2gigs ram + 2.10ghz Pentium M
[10:23] <eyequeue> xirtam:  for example, sudo dpkg --purge foo, or you can use synaptic
[10:23] <ubuntu_> Is there any known issues with the trackpoint driver?
[10:23] <kvidell> ubuntu_: what might the problem be?
[10:23] <zerokills> wireless mouse*
[10:23] <kvidell> trackpoint? the nipple?
[10:23] <ubuntu_> Um.. P3-M 1.13, 384, 30GB
[10:23] <kvidell> er.. eraser
[10:23] <kvidell> >.>
[10:23] <patrick_> 14.1 1400x1050 Sonoma 760, 512 for now, 80GB 5400
[10:23] <ubuntu_> The little red thing.
[10:23] <synd> kvidell: 15" @ 16x12? wow
[10:23] <zerokills> nipple?
[10:24] <patrick_> ATI 64mb X300
[10:24] <mhz> has anyone here set up NFS ????
[10:24] <ubuntu_> 13", 1024x768
[10:24] <xirtam> eyequeue: dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of python2.4 ... ;(
[10:24] <eyequeue> zerokills:  some laptops have a red bump as a mouse
[10:24] <patrick_> trackpoint is working fine for me
[10:24] <kvidell> zerokills: Yea, that's what I call the little "eraser" mouse thing between the G H and B keys on ThinkPads
[10:24] <patrick_> although the trackpoint button isn't working as of yet
[10:24] <ubuntu_> Must be mobo problem then...
[10:24] <nipple> hehe
[10:24] <kvidell> ubunutu_ Yea, no problems with my TrackPoint either... what does your xorg conf look like? (the mouse section(s))?
[10:25] <eyequeue> zerokills:  try one in a store some time, i personally couldn't stand one
[10:25] <zerokills> lol
[10:25] <ubuntu_> Well, sometimes when I move cursor, wierd things happen.
[10:25] <pepsi> the eraser is way better than a trackpad
[10:25] <ubuntu_> It's like using a wrong driver with a mouse.
[10:25] <kvidell> oh.. so it works just not.. well..
[10:25] <patrick_> ? trackpoint and three buttons, two(which work) act like right and left mouse, and third the is the scroll(which doesn't work) then there's the touchpad.. works nicely
[10:25] <zerokills> eyequeue: i think i have tried one before, wasnt too impressed
[10:25] <ubuntu_> It only happens for say 2 seconds once in a while.
[10:26] <eyequeue> pepperpot:  depends on the individual's coordination i think
[10:26] <ubuntu_> Oh and yes the scroll (middle) button doesn't work, and is not even recognised as a middle button.
[10:26] <eyequeue> pepsi:  rather
[10:26] <zerokills> 202 more minutes, if this doesnt work im gonna be pissed
[10:26] <patrick_> so there's no driver for it?
[10:26] <liable> ubuntu_: could be the actuall device, mine spasses every once in a while (moves without me moving it)
[10:27] <ubuntu_> *sigh* This R31 have had a lot of faults.
[10:27] <kvidell> hmm...
[10:27] <patrick_> how old is your R series?
[10:27] <kvidell> liable: All of mine have done that on many OS's.. :-\
[10:27] <ubuntu_> 1. Motherboard dies for no apparent reason, fixed under warranty.
[10:27] <kvidell> it's just that the little nubbin is VERY sensitive and gets "stuck" every now and then
[10:27] <kvidell> it's a physical device problem, not software
[10:27] <dan_> hi guys
[10:27] <kvidell> if I wiggle it a little it stops
[10:27] <kvidell> thinkpad-base - Configuration files for thinkpad-modules packages
[10:27] <ubuntu_> 2. LCD Screen does not operate correctly: red lines across the entire screen, affected by what is displayed on screen.
[10:28] <zerokills> kvidell: the nipple?
[10:28] <dan_> anyone running a NIS server with OSC clients?
[10:28] <kvidell> zerokills: nipple, nubbin, eraser...
[10:28] <kvidell> whatever :-P
[10:28] <liable> kvidell: yah, mine does it with windows too, waiting for it too crap out. Has lived in some dusty hot humid places, so I dont think its too bad.
[10:28] <zerokills> hehe
[10:28] <dan_> I was running a RHEL 3 server with no problems, switch to Ubuntu Hoary and NIS no longer works :(
[10:28] <zerokills> hi dan_
[10:28] <zerokills> hmm
[10:28] <dan_> zerokills, hi there, can you help?  I'm in a panic, noone can login this morning :(
[10:28] <ubuntu_> 3. Now the motherboard (maybe bios) is not functioning correctly, it had just killed a hard disk's boot secotr.
[10:29] <dan_> zerokills, brb
[10:29] <pmjdebruijn> dan_: didn't you do a lab trial first?
[10:29] <ubuntu_> patrick_: 2-3 years I think. This is an R31.
[10:29] <zerokills> dan_: sorry im not familiar with your situation
[10:30] <mhz> has anyone here set up NFS ????
[10:30] <zerokills> not i
[10:30] <patrick_> I see, are they treating you ok with regards to the warranty? ie, turnover rate? fixing it fast?
[10:31] <ubuntu_> Yes, well fault number 1 was fixed, very good response.
[10:31] <ubuntu_> But that was at the end of warranty period of 1 year already.
[10:31] <patrick_> I just bought my thinkpad last week, my old CL56 was too hard to get distros working on.. finally I needed an upgrade and wouldn't ya know that in one shot the install works
[10:32] <ubuntu_> I don't think I would get ThinkPad ever again.
[10:32] <josemi> dan_: check permissions, check config files and give details
[10:32] <thesamet> topyly: about tetex dependencies again. Is there some tool to get it done recursively?
[10:32] <dan_> josemi, I didn't get the chance first, we have no lab here
[10:32] <dan_> josemi, small network
[10:32] <patrick_> sorry to hear that.. they're built strong, very rugged. maybe you got a bad make?
[10:32] <dan_> josemi, I can ypcat passwd and ypcat hosts and see the maps
[10:33] <dan_> josemi, but when I try and login or su I get the passwd refused
[10:33] <ubuntu_> Perhaps. It is a plastic chassis, not aluminium/magnesium which I would prefer.
[10:33] <josemi> dan_ : so you cannot log into the system anyway ?
[10:33] <josemi> have you physiscal access ?
[10:33] <ubuntu_> I would agree with TP's being rugged by looking at my old TP380D (Pentium 150) but not this R31.
[10:34] <dan_> josemi, I can login as root
[10:34] <patrick_> hmm.. I thought the standad was magnesium composite..
[10:34] <dan_> josemi, can't login as NIS user
[10:34] <josemi> mm
[10:34] <josemi> check /etc/passwd file
[10:34] <josemi> for inconsistences
[10:34] <ubuntu_> Is it? Well it feels like plastic. Seriously.
[10:34] <patrick_> yes.. AFAIK R aren't built like T's
[10:34] <dan_> josemi, if I login as root I can ypcat passwd and see the passwd map
[10:34] <patrick_> T's are a better construction and design
[10:34] <ubuntu_> how's T's different from R's, and which series are best?
[10:35] <patrick_> T's are best for that overall ballance of performance and mobility..
[10:35] <josemi> dan_: I dunno about NIS problems cause I'm not an expert on this, but---
[10:35] <ubuntu_> What about X's?
[10:35] <HrdwrBoB> Rs are huge
[10:35] <HrdwrBoB> but cheap
[10:35] <josemi> seems miss-configured
[10:35] <patrick_> if you want ultra mobility then it's the X's
[10:35] <HrdwrBoB> X is small and excellent
[10:35] <patrick_> yes
[10:35] <ubuntu_> Ah.
[10:35] <josemi> surely due to an update (hoary)
[10:35] <ubuntu_> I think I would rather Toshiba Portege though.
[10:35] <josemi> try to reconfigure again the NIS server
[10:35] <josemi> if you can
[10:35] <dan_> works for a Hoary client
[10:36] <patrick_> R's and G's are mostly desktop replacemetns
[10:36] <dan_> works for all other clients except OS X
[10:36] <josemi> am
[10:36] <kvidell> I thought the T's were their more "hardcore" models?
[10:36] <kvidell> They're coated in plastic and tend to have better hardware
[10:36] <ubuntu_> You must have a lot of think pads, and used them for ages.
[10:36] <josemi> you get an error or just simply "cannot access"
[10:36] <patrick_> they are kvidell
[10:36] <dan_> the passwd dialog does the bouncy thing, just like you gave the wrong one
[10:36] <kvidell> then again mine did cost $4000 :-\
[10:37] <kvidell> so whatever. >.>
[10:37] <ubuntu_> $4000 us?
[10:37] <patrick_> yes, T's are their best line
[10:37] <kvidell> yea
[10:37] <ubuntu_> Thats quite a lot.
[10:37] <kvidell> I'm not sure how much my Fiance's R51 cost.. just over 1000$/usd I think
[10:37] <HrdwrBoB> I just bought a s/h R40
[10:37] <HrdwrBoB> for $700AUD
[10:37] <zerokills> id rather build my own computer for about $800
[10:37] <patrick_> mine cost 1900, with and educational discount, it would've retailed for 2800
[10:38] <ubuntu_> Excellent. another person from AUS.
[10:38] <kvidell> well... I didn't pay for this :)
[10:38] <kvidell> It's on a two year lease through my employer
[10:38] <kvidell> (Cisco Systems)
[10:38] <HrdwrBoB> zerokills: build a laptop for $800 then
[10:38] <patrick_> ah
[10:38] <kvidell> No way I would buy a $4000 laptop :-P
[10:38] <kassetra> I just spent about $4000 on mine...
[10:38] <zerokills> hrdwrbob: lol, ill just carry my desktop around with me
[10:38] <patrick_> lol strapped
[10:38] <kvidell> Although I ~REALLY~ like the display on this thing... and the 2 gigs of ram is a nice touch.
[10:39] <josemi> dan_ : then I have no idea, so surely it's a change on your NIS config made by an update or something similar.
[10:39] <ubuntu_> I like portability, not "a desktop that folds in half"
[10:39] <josemi> dan_ : sorry
[10:39] <josemi> so check de OS X client if you can.
[10:39] <kvidell> hehe.
[10:39] <dan_> josemi, reverting back to old server now, gonna go over it with a seperate client
[10:39] <patrick_> you should look into their T series then.. lightweight at 4.9 without the battery , super thin at 1" and it's rugged..
[10:40] <kvidell> My next laptop will be a PowerBook
[10:40] <ubuntu_> Speaking of displays, has anyone seen a TFT screen having red lines across the entire screen? it is not dead pixels, but more like poor contact.
[10:40] <kvidell> yea... the plastic coating on these things is insane.
[10:40] <josemi> dan_ : ok, good luck.
[10:40] <patrick_> IBM's keyboards are topnotch, which mattered in my decision making
[10:41] <shinu> what program can i use to cut a small part of a video out?
[10:41] <ubuntu_> There is a ThinkPad key, volume up, down and mute keys on the keyboard of this R31. Any idea of getting them to work?
[10:42] <josemi> ubuntu_: use an app named
[10:42] <josemi> hotkeys
[10:42] <patrick_> shoot, mine don't work either
[10:42] <josemi> or something similar
[10:42] <josemi> wait..
[10:42] <kvidell> josemi: Doesn't work oon ThinkPads
[10:42] <kvidell> these are hardware controlled
[10:42] <josemi> nopes ?
[10:42] <kvidell> Mine just work :-\
[10:42] <hornsby_> shinu, GOPchop
[10:42] <kvidell> Try apt-get install thinkpad-base
[10:42] <Hatred> evening :)
[10:42] <kvidell> that fixed a few things on my fiance's R51
[10:42] <zerokills> hola
[10:42] <josemi> hola
[10:43] <shinu> hornsby_: thanks ill try that :)
[10:43] <Hatred> :)
[10:43] <hornsby_> shinu, what format you want to use ?
[10:43] <Hatred> i think my glx drivers are b0rked :|
[10:43] <ubuntu_> They're not mapped as keyboard keys, because I can't set them using the "Keyboard Shortcuts" settings.
[10:43] <hornsby_> GOPchop is for mpeg2-PS
[10:43] <Hatred> " Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". "
[10:44] <hornsby_> shinu, otherwise kino is good too
[10:44] <mhz> According to :~$ cat /boot/config-2.6.10-5-powerpc |grep -i nfs  (default hoarty PPC)  I do have NFS compiled. therefore, WHY when I do 'cat /proc/filesystem' i see no "nfs" match, nor i can insmode it ???
[10:44] <stjepan> hi
[10:44] <Hatred> hi :)
[10:44] <stjepan> I have xfce and gnome
[10:44] <shinu> hornsby_: the file is an avi i think... i dont know much about this stuff :P
[10:44] <ubuntu_> kvidell: how do I use apt-get
[10:44] <stjepan> how can I switch from xfce to gnome and from gnome to xfce?
[10:44] <kvidell> from your favourite terminal application, sudo apt-get install thinkpad-base
[10:45] <kvidell> it'll ask you for a password.. that's your user pass
[10:45] <shinu> hornsby_: i think its an xvid...
[10:45] <kvidell> you can do it from synaptic too if you like that better
[10:45] <hornsby_> shinu, then you can try kino, dvdrip, acidrip
[10:45] <ubuntu_> E: Couldn't find package thinkpad-base
[10:45] <shinu> hornsby_: ill try kino first i think, thanks a lot
[10:45] <bigfoot1> Hi everyone. I have a problem connecting to the internet. May I tell it all here?
[10:45] <hornsby_> ok, it is a movie from the net :)
[10:45] <zerokills> ubuntu_ have you changed your sources.list?
[10:45] <kvidell> oh.. it's in the universe utilities
[10:46] <ubuntu_> sources.list?
[10:46] <stjepan> pls help
[10:46] <kvidell> yep
[10:46] <stjepan> is there any switcher?
[10:46] <hornsby_> shinu, then you might want to try dvdrip or acidrip
[10:46] <ubuntu_> what is sources.list?
[10:46] <shinu> ok
[10:46] <shinu> ubuntu_: /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:46] <shinu> i think... :P
[10:47] <hornsby_> correct
[10:47] <ubuntu_> yes.. I'm in.
[10:47] <ubuntu_> what do I uncomment?
[10:48] <stjepan> :(
[10:48] <synd> ubuntu_: www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[10:48] <Hatred> hey, i keep getting this error, i think my glx drivers are broken??
[10:48] <Hatred> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:48] <hornsby_> ubuntu_,lines refering to universe
[10:48] <ubuntu_> Thanks.
[10:49] <stjepan> oh
[10:49] <ubuntu_> It's a readonly file?
[10:49] <hornsby_> ubuntu_, edit as root
[10:49] <ubuntu_> W10: Warning: Changing a readonly file
[10:49] <ubuntu_> Ah, I see.
[10:49] <zerokills> in terminal type: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:49] <hornsby_> sudo gedit /etc/apt/source.list
[10:49] <stjepan> do you have two window managers?
[10:49] <hornsby_> sources :)
[10:50] <ubuntu_> ok. saved. now I'll try apt-get again.
[10:50] <anacron> ubuntu_: update first
[10:50] <bigfoot1> I'm a 1-monthy newbie with a fundamental problem: connecting to the internet. Can I share the problem here, please? It's a rather long message.
[10:50] <kvidell> run an update first (sudo apt-get update)
[10:50] <Hajuu> hey there
[10:50] <mhz> has anyone here set up NFS ????
[10:50] <zerokills> ubuntu_: first type: sudo apt-get update
[10:50] <mhz> According to :~$ cat /boot/config-2.6.10-5-powerpc |grep -i nfs  (default hoarty PPC)  I do have NFS compiled. therefore, WHY when I do 'cat /proc/filesystem' i see no "nfs" match, nor i can insmode it ???
[10:50] <ubuntu_> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://au.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/au.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:51] <kvidell> oh
[10:51] <ubuntu_> Ah. update.
[10:51] <kvidell> yea.. remove the au. from those
[10:51] <kvidell> the mirrors are kind of cracked out right now
[10:51] <kvidell> and do the update too
[10:51] <kvidell> (after removing au.)
[10:51] <ubuntu_> No, I;m in au.
[10:51] <kvidell> I know.. but the mirrors are cracked out
[10:51] <hornsby_> au mirrors are down at the moment
[10:51] <synd> i believe the mirrors are okay now?
[10:51] <kvidell> you have to use the US mirror... you can try the au. mirrors first if you have bandwidth fines like the Kiwis do
[10:52] <Hajuu> anyone know of a decent partition manager for linux? I tried using fdisk to remove my ntfs partition and create a new linux one.. but everytime I do, my changes are lost after reset.. but when I quit and write changes.. and reopen fdisk and check before I reboot... Its all like I set it.. just after I restart... wierd.. so anyone know of a better program for it?
[10:52] <ubuntu_> Bandwidth? I'm on 28.8k cable connection.
[10:52] <ubuntu_> so yes, it will take a while.
[10:52] <synd> 28.8k cable?
[10:52] <ubuntu_> Hajuu: cfdisk for text based
[10:53] <Hajuu> ah thats what I was thinking of heh
[10:53] <zerokills> thats slow cable
[10:53] <ubuntu_> I'm capped on speed
[10:53] <peter2> I have a sound problem after checking the forums in detail - sound was working before
[10:53] <ubuntu_> Since I exceeded my 200mb monthly limit
[10:53] <bigfoot1> Okay, everyone, please bear with me with the succeeding message....
[10:53] <zerokills> ooh
[10:53] <bigfoot1> Hello, everyone. A very important problem. Since yesterday, I've been having a hard time connecting to the internet. I have a broadband (always on) connection to the internet. The way I set up my internet connection with ubuntu is by running "sudopppoeconf." I have not had any problems since yesterday. I've had this problem happening about 4 times. The first time it happened, I was setting up "synce" (to get my PDA working with Ubuntu).
[10:53] <bigfoot1> Just five minutes ago, I went to the computer and I tried connecting to the net, specifically by opening up Firefox and X-Chat. Neither worked. Attempting to figure out what the problem is, I did "ppoeconf." It found 1 ethernet device: eth0. I hit enter. The window said "   Looking for PPPoE Access Concentrator on eth0..." Then it said,  "Sorry, I scanned 1 interface, but the Access
[10:53] <bigfoot1>  Concentrator of your provider did not respond. Please check your network and modem cables. Another reason for the scan failure may also be another running pppoe process which controls the modem.
[10:53] <peter2> anyone can provide quick suggestions ?
[10:53] <bigfoot1> I thought that was strange. Anyway, afterwards, I restarted the computer, and now everything's fine. I ran "sudo ppoeconf" again this time, and it said "DSL CONNECTION FOUND
[10:53] <bigfoot1> I found an Access Concentrator on eth0. Should I setup PPPOE for this connection?"
[10:53] <bigfoot1> 
[10:53] <bigfoot1> The next time it happens again, how can I pinpoint what the problem is?
[10:53] <bigfoot1> Thank you very much!
[10:54] <zerokills> ahhh, bigfoot1, try not to paste that in this channel
[10:54] <zerokills> too much spam
[10:54] <bigfoot1> zerokills, I was thinking of that too, but what is better? that isn't spam. That is a description of the problem I'm facing. Thank you for your understanding.
[10:55] <ubuntu_> Hajuu: qtparted would also be nice, comes on knoppix but not ubuntu
[10:55] <ubuntu_> ...
[10:55] <bigfoot1> can anyone please help me with the above?
[10:55] <kvidell> bigfoot1: You could type it out and make us feel like you care about us :( (hold on, lemme read it all :-P There's A lot!)
[10:55] <zerokills> bigfoot1: np, i understand, but you can /query that to someone
[10:56] <ubuntu_> Ok, thanks to everyone who has helped me with thinkpad-base. This will take a while, so I'm going now. Bye!
[10:56] <bigfoot1> zerokills, what's query? I am a newbie. I ask for your patience with an inexperienced ubuntu user.
[10:56] <zerokills> later ubuntu_
[10:56] <peter2> anyone to help me out with a sound issue ?
[10:56] <bigfoot1> zerokills, and anyway, how do i know to whom I should relay the message to?
[10:56] <hornsby_> peter2, expose your problem
[10:57] <bigfoot1> kvidell, I'm thanking you for your present help.
[10:57] <zerokills> bigfoot1: find someone to help you with it, i cant scroll up and read what you typed because my wireless mouse ran out of battery.. whats the problem? short and sweet
[10:58] <peter2> ok, i created a new user to have GNOME back up running after it crashed so bad i had to create a new user to get into it
[10:58] <peter2> now sound does not work with the new user
[10:58] <peter2> I have my settings lsmod|grep snd
[10:59] <hornsby_> peter2, does it work with "normal" user ?
[10:59] <bigfoot1> zerokills, i'm sorry to hear that your mouse is currently drained of energy. The problem is, internet (pppoe/dsl) connection problem.
[10:59] <peter2> hmmm can i try this from terminal ?
[10:59] <peter2> the new user replaces the old one though (created new user as admin and sudoer)
[10:59] <hornsby_> peter2, ok, got it
[11:00] <bigfoot1> kvidell, where it says " I have not had any problems since yesterday", change that to "until yesterday." I've had no internet problems from the time I installed ubuntu (1 month ago) until yesterday.
[11:00] <zerokills> bigfoot1: hmmm, im pretty new to linux myself, i wouldnt know where to begin with networking and internet problems, sorry
[11:01] <hornsby_> peter2, i am not gnome user so I dunno really but I would check the rights of the new user
[11:01] <peter2> how do i do that ?
[11:01] <bigfoot1> zerokills, thank you for your reply.
[11:02] <bigfoot1> Can anyone help me with my abovementioned essay-length 8-) problem?
[11:02] <zerokills> lol
[11:02] <GazaM> I have only just joined the irc channel, could you please repeat?
[11:02] <bigfoot1> gazam, are you talking with me? 8-)
[11:02] <GazaM> yes
[11:02] <bigfoot1> can I pm you with the whole story?
[11:03] <GazaM> yes, feel free
[11:03] <bigfoot1> thank you. Please stand by.
[11:03] <GazaM> ok
[11:03] <bigfoot1> Hello, everyone. A very important problem. Since yesterday, I've been having a hard time connecting to the internet. I have a broadband (always on) connection to the internet. The way I set up my internet connection with ubuntu is by running "sudopppoeconf." I have not had any problems until yesterday. I've had this problem happening about 4 times. The first time it happened, I was setting up "synce" (to get my PDA working with Ubuntu).
[11:03] <bigfoot1> Just five minutes ago, I went to the computer and I tried connecting to the net, specifically by opening up Firefox and X-Chat. Neither worked. Attempting to figure out what the problem is, I did "ppoeconf." It found 1 ethernet device: eth0. I hit enter. The window said "   Looking for PPPoE Access Concentrator on eth0..." Then it said,  "Sorry, I scanned 1 interface, but the Access
[11:03] <bigfoot1>  Concentrator of your provider did not respond. Please check your network and modem cables. Another reason for the scan failure may also be another running pppoe process which controls the modem.
[11:03] <bigfoot1> I thought that was strange. Anyway, afterwards, I restarted the computer, and now everything's fine. I ran "sudo ppoeconf" again this time, and it said "DSL CONNECTION FOUND
[11:03] <hornsby_> peter2, http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#addeditdeletesystemgroups
[11:03] <bigfoot1> I found an Access Concentrator on eth0. Should I setup PPPOE for this connection?"
[11:03] <bigfoot1> 
[11:03] <bigfoot1> The next time it happens again, how can I pinpoint what the problem is?
[11:03] <bigfoot1> Thank you very much!
[11:04] <peter2> got it thanks hornsby
[11:04] <Methynutnut> bigfoot1: by the way, that wasn't a pm
[11:05] <parabolize> lol
[11:05] <bigfoot1> Methynutnut, oh really? I'm so sorry.
[11:05] <bigfoot1> Methynutnut, you mean it was posted in this chatroom?
[11:05] <bigfoot1> so sorry.
[11:05] <Methynutnut> heh
[11:05] <parabolize> ya don't worry about it.
[11:05] <GazaM> lol
[11:05] <bigfoot1> how do i do a private message?
[11:06] <parabolize> in xchat?
[11:06] <Methynutnut> /msg <user> <message>
[11:06] <GazaM> You should have a tab at the bottom
[11:06] <GazaM> you've opened one with me
[11:06] <GazaM> beside the #ubuntu tab
[11:06] <Methynutnut> if you're using x-chat you can right click on their name and choose open dialog window
[11:06] <parabolize> to the right if #ubuntu seeing as g is before u
[11:07] <parabolize> wait left :)
[11:08] <bigfoot1> did everyone see my privatemessages to methynut with the message "test" and "testing"
[11:08] <bigfoot1> L
[11:08] <bigfoot1> ?
[11:08] <parabolize> nope
[11:08] <Methynutnut> no, they didn't, because it was a private message
[11:08] <bigfoot1> Methynutnut, but I did the same thing with GazaM, didn't I?
[11:09] <Methynutnut> nope, your spiel came up in this channel
[11:10] <GazaM> bigfoot1, you do have a pm window open with me, you just typed in the wrong one :S
[11:10] <bigfoot1> I think I know what happenened. The first line of my message to Gazam _was_ a pm, but Xchat didn't continue making  the rest of my essay to him a pm. I used /msg GazaM  <essay here>
[11:10] <GazaM> check the pm tab now I have replied to you
[11:11] <Methynutnut> bigfoot1: ah, to do pastes like that, you have to open a dialog window to them and paste into that
[11:11] <Whistler> how can i listen to mp3?
[11:11] <GazaM> bigfoot in xchat there is no need to use the /msg command as you only need to right-click a user and select pm.
[11:11] <GazaM> Whistler, go to www.ubuntuguide.org
[11:11] <GazaM> it is explained there very well and simply
[11:12] <parabolize> Whistler: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[11:12] <bigfoot1> GazaM, Methynutnut, okay. No more "/msg <usernickname> <super long novel>"
[11:12] <Shufla> hello :D
[11:12] <GazaM> hello
[11:12] <zerokills> hola
[11:12] <Whistler> parabolize thx
[11:12] <bigfoot1> I was just trying to be a cool geek and keep myself from wasting 3 seconds moving my hand from the keyboard to the mouse.
[11:13] <Ng> Whistler: or see the RestrictedFormats wiki entry on ubuntu.com, which is probably better
[11:13] <zerokills> hehe
[11:13] <GazaM> lol, we've all done it bigfoot
[11:13] <Ng> ubuntuguide is a bit basic
[11:13] <parabolize> Whistler no problem :)
[11:13] <ubuntu_> Does anyone know how to use thinkpad-base?
[11:13] <Whistler> =] 
[11:13] <bigfoot1> whistler, do you live in Whistler/Blackomb?
[11:13] <GazaM> ubuntuguide is basic, because it is intended for new users
[11:14] <Whistler> z] 
[11:14] <bigfoot1> whistler: a venue for the 2010 Winter Olympics!
[11:14] <Whistler> =] 
[11:14] <Ng> GazaM: basic and not as good as the official wiki, I mean ;)
[11:14] <Whistler> ggmmm.
[11:14] <GazaM> True, I agree completely, but my point is that ubuntuguide is intended for copy-paste.
[11:15] <GazaM> the wiki explains everything in more detail
[11:15] <Whistler> i still cant find how to add mp3 support
[11:15] <Whistler> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[11:15] <parabolize> I like the wiki and the guide. I just use them for differnt stuff
[11:15] <Whistler> i dont see mp3
[11:15] <podge> GazaM: It would make sense that when a user clicks on an MP3 file it should give them the option to setup MP3 playback.
[11:15] <Ng> Whistler: it's the gstreamer0.8-mad one you need
[11:15] <Ng> Whistler: tbh I'd go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats if I were you
[11:16] <parabolize> ya the gstreamer
[11:16] <GazaM> podge, I agree but I'm not a ubuntu developer, so I can't help make that happen
[11:17] <bigfoot1> Why does a restart of my computer fix the internet connection (always on DSL connection) problem I have? Is there a command I can run that will save me from restarting my computer?
[11:18] <parabolize> Whistler: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins, sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-lame, and gst-register-0.8 should do it
[11:20] <lleberg> How do i burn a cd in hoary? :)
[11:20] <zerokills> lleberg: k3b
[11:21] <Razor-X> is us.archive.ubuntu.org still down?
[11:21] <Whistler> when i type sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins
[11:21] <Whistler> i get an errot
[11:21] <Whistler> i get an error
[11:21] <zerokills> have you added the extra repos, whistler?
[11:22] <Funraiser> TCP wrapper is not installed on Ubuntu?
[11:22] <Razor-X> zerokills: are the marliat repos down as well?
[11:22] <parabolize> Whistler don't skip step 2
[11:22] <zerokills> razor-x: im not sure
[11:22] <Razor-X> and, are there still problems with us.ubuntu.archive.org?
[11:22] <Razor-X> I tried an apt-get to get tex, and dvipdf is not getting any of the fonts
[11:23] <zerokills> whats update do?
[11:23] <Funraiser> ok it is
[11:23] <mindspin> hi, after uptading to kde 3.4.1 I'm experiencing frequently crashes of firefox and gxine. Any idea ?
[11:23] <mindspin> updating
[11:23] <parabolize> lleberg: gnomebacker
[11:23] <Razor-X> zerokills
[11:23] <Razor-X> zerokills: is that rhetorical?
[11:24] <Whistler> grrrr.
[11:24] <parabolize> :) sorry
[11:24] <Whistler> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[11:24] <Whistler> where i shoul put this?
[11:24] <Whistler> where i should put this?
[11:25] <zerokills> heh, no im asking what happens when you run update
[11:25] <Phreakazoid> in /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:25] <newbie> how can i enable numlock at start-up?
[11:25] <Razor-X> Whistler: read the wiki
[11:25] <Razor-X> zerokills: well, on the marliat repos, the md5sums don't match
[11:25] <Razor-X> but, everything else is fine
[11:25] <Whistler> i read
[11:25] <Razor-X> even though, earlier, us.archive was up
[11:25] <Whistler> theres no add button only new
[11:25] <Razor-X> but the packages wouldn't install because of md5sum errors
[11:25] <Whistler> and no custom
[11:25] <Whistler> button
[11:26] <parabolize> newbie: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#numlockx
[11:26] <Whistler> at synaptic
[11:26] <Razor-X> Whistler: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list then
[11:26] <newbie> thanks parabolize
[11:26] <zerokills> marilats must be down
[11:27] <Whistler> razor-x i cant edit that file
[11:27] <Razor-X> thought so
[11:27] <podge> mindspin : Did you try reinstalling firefox and gxine..
[11:27] <Razor-X> Whistler: sudo edit it
[11:27] <zerokills> whistler: in terminal type: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:27] <Ng> Whistler: did you read the RestrictedFormats page? it should cover all of this
[11:27] <mindspin> podge not yet
[11:28] <parabolize> Whistler: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:28] <parabolize> Whistler: make a copy first though!
[11:28] <Whistler> and what shoul i write there?
[11:28] <Whistler> =] 
[11:28] <Whistler> and what should i write there?
[11:29] <Razor-X> Whistler: first off, sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.bak
[11:29] <parabolize> Whistler: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[11:29] <Ng> parabolize: this is what happens when you link people to rubbish quality basic help sites ;)
[11:29] <Razor-X> that'll back it up for ya
[11:29] <zerokills> lol Ng
[11:29] <Razor-X> Ng: it was better when I first looked at it
[11:29] <Razor-X> getting dumber and dumber
[11:29] <parabolize> Ng: some do read it though. even less people will read the wiki
[11:30] <shinu> i have this strange problem, and it tells me to run apt-get update, but when i run i still get: W: Couldn't stat source package list ftp://ftp.nerim.net stable/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.nerim.net_debian-marillat_dists_stable_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[11:30] <shinu> how can i fix it?
[11:30] <newbie> parabolize: is there other methods than the link u gave me
[11:30] <podge> mindspin: Also, #kubuntu might be a better place to ask especially if you are running KDE.
[11:30] <parabolize> newbie: probably why?
[11:30] <mindspin> I know
[11:30] <mindspin> and I asked there...
[11:31] <zerokills> no one helps in #kubuntu
[11:31] <newbie> cause i dont have internet at home
[11:31] <podge> zerokills: That is a shame..
[11:31] <zerokills> theyre all a bunch of slackers
[11:31] <podge> mindspin: So you didn't get any help.. :(
[11:31] <Nermal> zerokills, you get what you pay for
[11:31] <mindspin> the only answer was "I use opera.."
[11:31] <Razor-X> podge: no, it's not
[11:31] <zerokills> hehe
[11:31] <Razor-X> #kubuntu is dead
[11:31] <Whistler> opera rulz
[11:31] <mindspin> kinda
[11:31] <Whistler> =] 
[11:31] <Razor-X> Whistler: amen to that
[11:31] <parabolize> newbie save the .deb to disk
[11:32] <jalyst> anyone here installed FreeNX server successfully on hoary?
[11:32] <podge> mindspin: So you 100% need the latest KDE? :)
[11:32] <zerokills> brb, brushing my teeth
[11:32] <podge> Razor-X: okay..
[11:32] <Razor-X> jalyst: never say 'anyone' say 'anyone here now'
[11:32] <Whistler> another question
[11:32] <Whistler> how can i install deb
[11:32] <newbie> ok I'll do it.
[11:32] <Whistler> files?
[11:32] <Razor-X> if it's attemptable, it's been done ;)
[11:32] <Nermal> Whistler, dpkg -i
[11:32] <mindspin> podge, nope, but I hoped it resoled some minor bugs haha
[11:33] <parabolize> newbie use dpkg to install the deb when you get home
[11:33] <Razor-X> Whistler: dpkg -i
[11:33] <Whistler> nermal it gives me an error
[11:33] <mindspin> resolved
[11:33] <newbie> ok thanks..
[11:33] <Ng> sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[11:33] <jalyst> have you done it razor, if so how did you get started
[11:33] <Nermal> whiprush, oh
[11:33] <podge> mindspin: resolved?
[11:33] <Nermal> Whistler, oh
[11:33] <Razor-X> jalyst: ahh, haven't, but maybe I can help
[11:33] <Whistler> =] 
[11:33] <Razor-X> you're looking to compile it?
[11:33] <podge> mindframe: Got ya..
[11:33] <mindspin> not really
[11:33] <podge> mindspin: Got ya.. (wrong mind!!!)
[11:34] <jalyst> no, hopefully just dowload precombiled binaries for ubuntu
[11:34] <Whistler> i am so stupid i dont know how to do anything
[11:34] <Whistler> =] 
[11:34] <Nermal> Whistler, giving us the error would be a start now wouldn't it ?
[11:34] <Razor-X> jalyst: doubtful they exist
[11:34] <Whistler> ok sec
[11:34] <Razor-X> try getting a plain debian unstable deb
[11:34] <jalyst> i found instruction on the ubuntu california wiki, but it didnt work
[11:34] <lleberg> Does ubuntu have any app for cd-burning out-of-the-box?
[11:35] <lleberg> or is there some to apt-get? :)
[11:35] <tahorg> nautilus
[11:35] <iceman> lleberg yep ..
[11:35] <Nermal> lleberg, nautilus can
[11:35] <newbie> i guess it has nautilus
[11:35] <jalyst> yeah they have been repackaged someone who mainstains backports did it i think
[11:35] <mindspin> I'll have a try with reinstalling firefox.....
[11:35] <Nermal> just plonk a blank cdr in
[11:35] <Nermal> or goto burn:///
[11:35] <iceman> Ubuntu rocks well out of the box ...
[11:36] <newbie> but why does nautilus cant be burn cd-rw for me?
[11:36] <zerokills> lleberg: i use k3b, sudo apt-get install k3b
[11:36] <tahorg> lleberg: you want to burn audio cd ?
[11:36] <zerokills> or is it h3b, one or the other
[11:36] <jalyst> i think its time to do some documents, wiki, & forum trawling, IRC doesnt seem to be as productive for me
[11:37] <parabolize> lleberg: get gnomebaker kb3 will need a lot of kde.
[11:37] <lleberg> tahorg, i'm not sure, it's my sister who wants it
[11:37] <iceman> I dont mind "UBUNTU" on my desktop, but untill i lear more on command line i think i'll get a MAC laptop to run linux on ...
[11:37] <podge> I have a DVD combo drive. How come Sound Juicer only rips at a max speed of 3x?
[11:37] <tahorg> lleberg: for audio cd , it's a bit different
[11:38] <iceman> Wonder if ubuntu will run well on a good laptp .. pc based ...
[11:38] <lleberg> i'll just ave to ask her :P
[11:38] <podge> iceman: Ubuntu doesn't load on my NC1000.. :(
[11:38] <Mattte> iceman... it run's very well
[11:38] <iceman> laptop about 300 mhz ...
[11:38] <podge> iceman: But it loads on my mates NC8000
[11:38] <visor> podge: i wonder the same, try using ripperX if you want more control, or even maybe goobox
[11:38] <Mattte> iceman... aha... mine is a bit better than that
[11:38] <Whistler> how can i copy txt from a terminal?
[11:39] <iceman> Mattte what you use
[11:39] <Whistler> cause i am to lazy to rewrite it
[11:39] <iluciv> sudo dpkg -r point2play_2.0.1_i386.deb
[11:39] <iluciv>  should uninstall Point 2 play and cadgrea right???
[11:39] <visor> Whistler: select it, right click, copy...
[11:39] <podge> visor: You have the same issues with ripping speed?
[11:39] <lleberg> Nermal, How do i go to the burn:/// directory?
[11:39] <Mattte> Intel Mobile 1.6 :)
[11:39] <Whistler> admin@Linux:~ $ sudo dpkg -i opera.deb
[11:39] <Whistler> (Reading database ... 61360 files and directories currently installed.)
[11:39] <Whistler> Preparing to replace opera 8.0-20050415.6 (using opera.deb) ...
[11:39] <Whistler> Unpacking replacement opera ...
[11:39] <Whistler> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of opera:
[11:39] <Whistler>  opera depends on libqt3c102-mt (>= 3.3.1); however:
[11:39] <Whistler>   Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed.
[11:39] <Whistler> dpkg: error processing opera (--install):
[11:39] <Whistler>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[11:39] <Whistler> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:39] <Whistler>  opera
[11:39] <Whistler> whats wrong?
[11:39] <ussss> i installed another hardisk on my system w/ windows OS. But I decided to boot it to Ubuntu which is also in another Hardisk. How do I view the contens of my second Hardisk which my Windows Files reside. ?
[11:40] <visor> podge: always had the same, but not with ripperX (wich is more poweful but it has an uglier UI than soundjuicer or goobox)
[11:40] <ussss> is it in /dev/ ?
[11:40] <podge> visor : Think I will give goobox a try..
[11:40] <visor> podge: i think it is a GStreamer issue, if you know what that is try googling something
[11:40] <Whistler> usss
[11:40] <ussss> i got confuse coz theres a lot of files in /dev/ directory and I dont which of those are the proper HDD
[11:41] <Whistler> you have to mount windows
[11:41] <Whistler> partition
[11:41] <visor> btw, which app you use for burning in ubuntu?
[11:41] <Whistler> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#windows
[11:41] <zerokills> hehe
[11:41] <Whistler> look there
[11:41] <Whistler> it helped me
[11:41] <Phreakazoid> goobox
[11:41] <Phreakazoid> hm
[11:41] <Phreakazoid> is there any way to use goobox's lame encoder like the command line encoder "lame -V5 --athaa-sensitivity 1" ?
[11:41] <hornsby_> virtuald, k3b
[11:42] <visor> i saw there have raised some native gtk/gnome applications for burning but it seems so far that k3b its still the best one
[11:42] <hornsby_> virtuald, assuming you use kde
[11:42] <podge> visor: Gives me something to work with.. Thanks!
[11:42] <Phreakazoid> gstreamer-lame default settings seem all wrong
[11:42] <Phreakazoid> especially the "no short blocks" part
[11:42] <hornsby_> visor, k3b
[11:42] <ussss> Whistler, there 2 hardisk installed in my System. 1 is Ubuntu and another HDD is Windows. And Im currently booted at Ubuntu which I am using now. Both this 2 Hardisk is intalled and used IDE 1 and IDE 2 all are Master settings.
[11:43] <Whistler> usss so u have to muont it
[11:43] <ussss> what I want is to view the contents of HDD the contains the Windows files
[11:43] <Whistler> look there
[11:43] <ussss> Whistler, how ? its my first time to use windows
[11:43] <ussss> ?
[11:43] <iluciv> how does one uninstall point 2 play and cadgera?
[11:43] <ussss> i mean lInux
[11:43] <Whistler> it my second day on linux
[11:43] <ussss> lol
[11:43] <Whistler> i installed yesterday
[11:43] <Whistler> =] 
[11:43] <iluciv> I thought sudo dpkg -r point2play_2.0.1_i386.deb
[11:43] <Whistler> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#windows
[11:44] <iluciv>  would but I'm wrong
[11:44] <keikoz> it's always funny on the second day
[11:44] <Whistler> look there
[11:44] <ussss> ./mnt/ ?
[11:44] <newbie> lol whistler try to read more documents in tldp.org
[11:44] <ussss> ok
[11:44] <Whistler> usss
[11:44] <visor> podge: oh i forgot.... dou you have dma activated on the drive?
[11:44] <zerokills> iluciv: is it sudo dpkg -P ? i havent uninstalled a package yet so im not certain
[11:45] <hornsby_> iluciv, sudo apt-get remove {name soft}
[11:45] <parabolize> ussss READ http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#windows
[11:45] <iluciv> zerokills: I'll give it a go hornsby: I didn't download it with apt-get does that matter??
[11:45] <ussss> Whistler, so how to detemine the HDD im currently using now which is Ubuntu. I dont know if it is hd0 or hd1 ?
[11:46] <Ng> "sudo fdisk -l" will list all of the hard disks and their partitions in your system
[11:46] <parabolize> ussss well really you want to read http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs if your looking at windows a lot
[11:46] <Ng> so you should be able to see where the FAT/NTFS windows ones are
[11:46] <bigfoot1> hello all, about my internet connection problom, when I ran "sudo pppoeconf" and got this error message:  "Sorry, I scanned 1 interface, but the Access
[11:46] <bigfoot1> bigfoot1  Concentrator of your provider did not respond. Please check your network and modem cables. Another reason for the scan failure may also be another running pppoe process which controls the modem." I don' t think my problem is with my cables. So i think it's the alternative possible cause: "another running pppoe process which controls the modem." IF that's the problem, how can i fix it?
[11:46] <visor> hornsby_: you use k3b on ubuntu, so it works out of the box?
[11:46] <ussss> im currently in Grade school and I dont know to read some English words coz Im not american... :)
[11:46] <podge> visor : I am checking all those things out..
[11:47] <hornsby_> visor, i use kubuntu
[11:47] <parabolize> ussss look for one in your fstab that says ntfs in it
[11:47] <visor> podge: let me see something and ill help you...
[11:47] <hornsby_> and it works great
[11:47] <visor> ussss: where are you from?
[11:47] <ussss> is it in /etc/
[11:47] <ussss> ?
[11:47] <Phreakazoid> ussss, I've known English my whole live and I've never lived in America, let alone actually am American
[11:47] <Phreakazoid> *life
[11:47] <ussss> visor, iceland where tux live
[11:48] <visor> ussss: ohh i see, so whats your native language?
[11:48] <parabolize> ussss yes sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[11:48] <ussss> parabolize,  sudo gedit the /etc/fstab ?
[11:48] <ussss> ok
[11:48] <ussss> ill try
[11:48] <visor> geez, i can consider american too, because ive grown in the American continent, but not in the US :P
[11:49] <parabolize> ussss do this first before editing sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab_backup
[11:49] <shinu> anyone else has problems with ftp.nerim.net? (marrilat)
[11:49] <visor> hornsby_: ohh i see, i though you use ubuntu (gnome)
[11:49] <ivoks> :>
[11:49] <hornsby_> visor, nop
[11:49] <hornsby_> visor, it shouldnt be a prob on gnome
[11:49] <newbie> ussss read man fstab if you're not sure on the contents
[11:49] <ussss> parabolize, do I have to change the 0's to 1 ?
[11:49] <Whistler> http://wiki.clug.org.za/clugwiki/index.php/How_do_I_install_a_.deb_file_I_downloaded_without_compromising_dependencies%3F
[11:50] <Whistler> i use 2nd method
[11:50] <ussss> im not in the contents... :)
[11:50] <newbie> that help you understand the contents
[11:50] <Whistler> Using apt to install one or more .deb files (quick and dirty solution)
[11:50] <ussss> its too long to read....
[11:50] <Whistler> Edit to your sources.list file and add a line like this:
[11:50] <Whistler>     file:///home/debs /
[11:50] <aatim> how can i edit my PATH?
[11:50] <parabolize> ussss NO read http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs right now just look for a line with ntfs in it
[11:50] <ussss> there's 0's int the file
[11:50] <Whistler> i add this line at the end
[11:50] <ussss> ok
[11:50] <ivoks> export PATH="/some/other/path:$PATH"
[11:50] <ussss> scanning........
[11:50] <Whistler> and it doest work
[11:51] <bali30006> alia boleh kenal
[11:51] <ussss> /dev/hdc1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[11:51] <ussss> /dev/hda        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0       0
[11:51] <bali30006> gered
[11:52] <ussss> and floppy, that what I only seen here
[11:52] <bali30006> ssssssssssssssssst
[11:52] <newbie> ussss read man fstab... that would help you
[11:52] <ussss> yes Im reading...
[11:52] <ussss> wait....... Ill paste it all here....
[11:52] <ussss> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[11:52] <ussss> #
[11:52] <ussss> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[11:52] <ussss> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[11:52] <ussss> /dev/hdc1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[11:52] <ussss> /dev/hdc5       none            swap    sw              0       0
[11:52] <ussss> /dev/hda        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0       0
[11:52] <ussss> /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[11:52] <ussss> thats all
[11:53] <ussss> what I know is, I installed 2 HDD in my system
[11:53] <bali30006> bjbfjkshjd
[11:53] <ussss> 1 HDD is Windows, and 1 HDD is Ubuntu which I am using now...
[11:53] <hussam> I just rebuild synaptic 0.57 and installed it on Hoary.  But I didn't find and change from 0.55, is there a site for synaptic where I can find a changelog?
[11:53] <ussss> What i just want is to view the contents of HDD Windows
[11:53] <zerokills> bali30006: lhjsdkhklaf?
[11:53] <zerokills> hehe
[11:53] <hornsby_> usss, copy paste in #flood
[11:54] <podge> visor : I think I found it..
[11:54] <newbie> usss i think hoary kernel doesnt support windows so better read ubuntu guide..try cat /proc/filesystem
[11:54] <ussss> hornsby_,  sorry for that but I guess I dont have to repaste it coz I already done it here...
[11:54] <ussss> sorry for that....
[11:54] <podge> visor: If you go to Configuration Editor (Applications->System Tools)
[11:54] <hornsby_> ussss, that what I say, nest time in #flood
[11:54] <newbie> you will see all the supported filesystem
[11:54] <ussss> hornsby_, nest ?
[11:55] <hornsby_> next :)
[11:55] <podge> visor: Find sound juicer in the apps list..
[11:55] <ussss> ah u mean next
[11:55] <ussss> :)
[11:55] <ussss> ic
[11:55] <podge> visor : And change the paranoia level..
[11:56] <ussss> I have some MP3 files in the other HDD and I want to copy it here in Ubuntu
[11:56] <parabolize> ussss try http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs but replace /dev/hda1 with /dev/hdb1 in step 5.
[11:56] <ussss> ok
[11:56] <visor> podge: yeah, right, i think that was (aside of having dma activated) but do you increase or decrease the value in GConf or what?
[11:57] <ussss> im going to read it now.......
[11:59] <shinu> anyone might know why kino fails to load my media? :D
[11:59] <shinu> is it a codec problem?
[12:00] <podge> visor : Decrease the value.. I went from 4 to 3 and got a 2x speed increase..
[12:00] <ussss> hey guyz, news: I got an error....
[12:00] <ussss> mount: special device /dev/hda1 does not exis
[12:00] <lleberg_> I want to add a user-account for my sister, how do i do that? ;)
[12:00] <ussss> I read this topic: Q: How to mount/unmount Windows partitions (NTFS) manually, and allow all users to read only?
[12:00] <podge> visor : Of course, going to 0 means full speed but no error checking..
[12:00] <ussss> and follow
[12:00] <ussss> but I got that error
[12:00] <ussss> ?
[12:00] <newbie> useradd
[12:00] <visor> podge: ohh i didnt read the detail it shows when you select the key, if you decrease it can contain errors
[12:01] <parabolize> ussss did you use /dev/hdb1 in step 5?
[12:01] <visor> podge: hehe you said it before ;)
[12:01] <topyli> lleberg_: useradd, or System - Admin - Users from the menu
[12:01] <ussss> parabolize, the command says in Step 5 is: sudo umount /media/windows/
[12:01] <podge> visor : I will still have a look at goobox..
[12:01] <Whistler> admin@Linux:~ $ sudo apt-get install libqt3c102-mt
[12:01] <Whistler> Reading Package Lists... Done
[12:01] <Whistler> Building Dependency Tree... Done
[12:01] <Whistler> Package libqt3c102-mt is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[12:01] <Whistler> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[12:01] <Whistler> is only available from another source
[12:01] <Whistler> E: Package libqt3c102-mt has no installation candidate
[12:01] <Whistler> what does it mean?
[12:01] <lleberg_> newbie, I tried the gnome user and group manager or whatever it's called..
[12:02] <ussss> I want just in Step 4, I got an error
[12:02] <topyli> Whistler: don't do that
[12:02] <lleberg_> newbie, But i couldn't log in to that user..
[12:02] <Whistler> can anybody help me?
[12:02] <parabolize> ussss no it doesn't. are we talking about http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs?
[12:03] <ussss> parabolize, I dont want to auto mount it during boot up
[12:03] <parabolize> O
[12:03] <ussss> just this time
[12:03] <newbie> su root, then try passwd "username" of the account.
[12:03] <visor> Whistler: whats the problem?
[12:03] <ussss> to copy the mp3 files in Windows HDD
[12:03] <ussss> to Ubuntu HDD
[12:03] <ussss> which im running now
[12:03] <topyli> Whistler: dunno, my apt lists that package just fine
[12:03] <Whistler> i am trying to install opera
[12:03] <Whistler> 2. sudo apt-get install libqt3c102-mt
[12:03] <Whistler> i type this
[12:03] <topyli> Whistler: you probably don't have the universe/multiverse repositories enabled
[12:04] <podge> visor : Also disable auto-play CDs when inserted..
[12:04] <parabolize> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#windows well replace /dev/hda1 with /dev/hdb1 in step 4
[12:04] <Whistler> so what shoul i do?
[12:04] <topyli> Whistler: add them! :)
[12:04] <Whistler> how?
[12:04] <Whistler> :D
[12:04] <topyli> Whistler: look at ubuntuguide.org
[12:04] <ussss> I really love to play Mp3s, and I want to try it here in Ubuntu if it will work. If Ubuntu cant do that, Im going to reformat it again and replace w/ Windows XP
[12:04] <ussss> thats what I can do...
[12:04] <ussss> Im new to Linux, thats why I need support
[12:05] <Seveas> ussss, sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.8-mad
[12:05] <topyli> Whistler: there, find the "how do i add extra repositories" part
[12:05] <visor> podge: ive made already tests... it doesnt change anything if i uncheck the automount thing... it seems to be an individual issue of some drives
[12:05] <Seveas> that'll give you mp3 support in totem & gstreamer
[12:05] <Mez> ussss, http://www.ubuntuguide.org explains all about it
[12:05] <glyph> ussss: read ubuntuguide.org carefully
[12:05] <newbie> don't do that ussss you will never learn linux your whole life
[12:05] <Seveas> ubuntuguide sucks
[12:05] <Seveas> ussss: http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/RestrictedFormats
[12:05] <glyph> ussss: I know how frustrating installing a new system can be.  Perhaps you should go calm down beforehand :)
[12:05] <ussss> that why Im trying....
[12:06] <ussss> to learn Linux.... but I cant do this my own..
[12:06] <newbie> tldp.org is a great linux document source that would help you.
[12:06] <Seveas> Whistler, whap happens if you try to apt-get install libqt3c102-mt
[12:06] <podge> visor : I guess some people might have had the CD player running in the background while trying to rip CDs. That would slow things down heaps!
[12:06] <Seveas> ehatt*
[12:06] <newbie> i you could download all it and read it cafefully..
[12:06] <visor> Whistler: sometimes i had the same error, because sometimes the servers can go down because of bandwidth excess or network errors or things like that
[12:06] <Seveas> narf, /me wants coffee
[12:06] <zerokills> me too
[12:06] <ussss> One of my friend recommend me Gentoo and Slackware, I dunno about that distros. He said its good for newbies...
[12:07] <Seveas> rofl
[12:07] <zhukov> loooooool
[12:07] <Seveas> gentoo is awful for newbies
[12:07] <parabolize> ussss NOOO!
[12:07] <shinu> xD
[12:07] <topyli> visor: true. this time though, it's just because the package is in universe
[12:07] <Seveas> newbies should stick to Ubuntu
[12:07] <zhukov> no gentoo
[12:07] <visor> podge: :| hahahaha i never though on that, i guess thats why i never had the problem (you know, my logic tells me to close the cd player before using a ripper), go figure
[12:07] <zhukov> Seveas, is right
[12:07] <newbie> dont try gento if your just a newbhie like me...it will kill you...lol
[12:07] <ussss> so u mean, Ubuntu is only for newbies ?
[12:07] <parabolize> gentoo is for smart people with LOTS of time.
[12:07] <zhukov> ussss, no
[12:07] <ussss> how about the professionals
[12:07] <ussss> ?
[12:07] <zhukov> its all the same
[12:08] <Seveas> ussss, Ubuntu is good for all
[12:08] <zerokills> Ubuntu is for smart people
[12:08] <zhukov> but ubuntu is more user friendly out-of-the-box
[12:08] <topyli> ussss: pros just treat it like debian
[12:08] <ussss> so my friend lies to me,
[12:08] <zhukov> kinda :)
[12:08] <parabolize> zerokills I'm using the wrong distro...
[12:08] <ussss> I will kill him...
[12:08] <visor> parabolize: and with a nice temperature, and nice weather, and an expensive fan in the processor, and dish-network with TV while everything compiles... :P
[12:08] <zerokills> parabolize me too
[12:08] <ussss> no, just kidding...
[12:08] <zerokills> hehe
[12:08] <ussss> theres a lot of cops here...
[12:09] <ussss> im afraid in jail
[12:09] <topyli> ussss: they just pulled a practical joke on you. they wanted you to fight a slackware install :)
[12:09] <newbie> there are lots of linux for newbhies...knoppix and ubuntu i guesss cause ubuntu was my second distro after i tried knoppix 3.
[12:09] <zhukov> didnt knew there was a 500 mm fan...
[12:09] <newbie> 3.7
[12:09] <visor> ussss: what was your problem? i think i forgot, i may help you
[12:09] <parabolize> he needs to mount his window part
[12:10] <Whistler> =] 
[12:10] <parabolize> so he can copy his mp3 to linux
[12:10] <Whistler> i did that
[12:10] <Whistler> =] 
[12:10] <zerokills> if your a newb, dont use h3knix, thats for advanced users
[12:10] <newbie> usss have you try mount -t vfat
[12:10] <zhukov> ubuntuguide.org
[12:10] <ussss> its hard...
[12:10] <parabolize> or LFS. mean nasty stuff
[12:10] <newbie> if your geek try linuxfromscratch..lol
[12:10] <ussss> when I go to /dev and made a "ls" command
[12:11] <ussss> u dunno where is the my HDD there...
[12:11] <Seveas> ussss, for mounting windows partitions, use this little shell script: http://ubuntulinux.nl/~dennis/windows_fstab
[12:11] <lleberg_> Why can't i log in to the account i just created?
[12:11] <visor> ussss: whats the hard disk with the music?
[12:11] <ussss> *I
[12:11] <ussss> ntfs
[12:11] <ussss> windows
[12:11] <Seveas> ussss, that script mounts your windows partitions and adds them to /etc/fstab
[12:11] <visor> ussss: i mean, is it the primary master, secondary master, primary slave, secondary slave...?
[12:11] <zerokills> snadge: hoary pwnz
[12:11] <newbie> ussss your window is in ur primary ide or slave?
[12:12] <newbie> windows*
[12:12] <snadge> zerokills, i run debian pretty much religiously.. im pretty much only getting hoary, because i've heard it supports madwifi driver out of the box.. and i'm having troubles getting it to work on debian
[12:12] <visor> and yes i know there are guides, and i know for sure one can look through documentation to mount drives but that should work out of the box which it doesnt... and i dont understand why
[12:12] <ussss> visor, I installed  2 HDDs in my system. 1 is Ubuntu (which im using now) and another HDD is Windows where my mp3s reside. Im booted now at Ubuntu and I want to copy the mp3 files
[12:12] <ussss> :)
[12:13] <Seveas> ussss, for mounting windows partitions, use this little shell script: http://ubuntulinux.nl/~dennis/windows_fstab
[12:13] <newbie> ussss your windows is in ur primary ide or slave?
[12:13] <zhukov> ussss, sudo fdisk -l
[12:13] <ussss> newbie, both are Master
[12:13] <ussss> they used IDE 1 and IDE 2
[12:13] <newbie> mount hda1 or hda2
[12:13] <Seveas> hmm, /me feels ignored
[12:13] <ussss> running in Pentium 4 3.2 Ghz and 512 MB
[12:13] <ussss> Ram
[12:14] <topyli> Seveas: nifty :)
[12:14] <Seveas> topyli, i know
[12:14] <newbie> ide1 windows and ide2 linux, right?
[12:14] <Seveas> but sadly no one listens :(
[12:14] <zhukov> Seveas, nice
[12:14] <visor> ussss: i know that already, what i want to know to help you is to know which hard disk is plugged where...
[12:14] <topyli> Seveas: that should be added to the ubuntu installer scripts
[12:14] <optik> hey, does ssh keep logs?
[12:14] <optik> I think i have an attempted break in a
[12:14] <optik> and wanna see what they tried
[12:14] <Seveas> ussss, can you read what i type?
[12:15] <Echylo> anyone can advise me a mass rename file? i have 500+ files, which has to be renamed to each something different, but i have the filenames in a list
[12:15] <ussss> ok
[12:15] <Seveas> Echylo, man rename
[12:15] <solli> hello :-)
[12:15] <zhukov> ussss go to that web page. save it to you disk and run it as sudo
[12:15] <podge> Echylo: Are the filenames consistent?
[12:15] <Echylo> consistent?
[12:15] <ussss> Seveas, i see a program
[12:15] <visor> ussss: then most probably linux is in tha second hard disk (dev/hdb)
[12:16] <ussss> what program is that... like a worm
[12:16] <ussss> i dunno
[12:16] <Seveas> ussss, save it to disk and run it as root
[12:16] <solli> Does anyone know why the prosesses on my computer uses ALOT memory?
[12:16] <newbie> usss ide1 windows and ide2 linux, right?
[12:16] <podge> Echylo: For example, file1.txt, file2.txt, file3.txt .. or are they all random?
[12:16] <visor> ussss: and windows in the first (/dev/hda)
[12:16] <zhukov> ussss, do it
[12:16] <Seveas> it mounts your windows partitions
[12:16] <Echylo> well consistent
[12:16] <ussss> ok
[12:16] <solli> like... nautilus is using 117mb
[12:16] <Echylo> podge, like 'text1.txt, ..."
[12:16] <podge> Echylo: How do you want to rename them?
[12:16] <Seveas> solli, don't mix up shared memory and real memory
[12:16] <topyli> ussss: it's a script for adding windows-love to your box
[12:16] <ussss> im going to save the file as file.sh right ?
[12:16] <Echylo> tell it are songs
[12:16] <zhukov> ussss, yes
[12:17] <podge> Echylo: I mean.. text1.txt is to be renamed to what?
[12:17] <ussss> then run it ./file.sh
[12:17] <Seveas> ussss, yes
[12:17] <ussss> ok
[12:17] <ussss> wait...
[12:17] <zhukov> the in the shel typi sudo ./(name of the file).sh
[12:17] <zhukov> *type
[12:17] <Seveas> or as: sudo ./file.sh
[12:17] <solli> I think it's used memory Seveas :/
[12:17] <Seveas> otherwise it won't run :)
[12:17] <topyli> ussss: it's probably not executable. do "sudo sh ./files.sh"
[12:17] <Echylo> podge, the files are (track01.mp3, ...) and have to be renamed to (artist - song.mp3) but I have the titles in a txt
[12:18] <Malsid> hello!
[12:18] <zhukov> Seveas, the script add those entryes to the etc/fstab?
[12:18] <Seveas> zhukov, yes
[12:18] <Seveas> if they are not there yet
[12:18] <ussss> i saved the file in my /home directory
[12:18] <zhukov> :D Very nice script in deed.
[12:18] <Seveas> and then executes mount -a
[12:18] <topyli> writes comments and all :)
[12:18] <zhukov> :)
[12:18] <podge> Echylo: Umm.. cut and paste the top line of your titles txt file...
[12:18] <Echylo> :)
[12:19] <Echylo> 500 times? :)
[12:19] <ussss> wait... looking the Root Terminal in the menu....
[12:19] <zhukov> ussss, no need
[12:19] <Echylo> not that I know another way
[12:19] <zhukov> just open any terminal
[12:19] <podge> Echylo: You have 500 files.. with the song names in a text file..
[12:19] <mhz> re
[12:19] <Echylo> yup
[12:19] <Echylo> just the title
[12:19] <lleberg_> How do i stop my computer from beeping on startup?
[12:19] <Echylo> i'll do it that way then
[12:19] <parabolize> ussss sudo sh file.sh
[12:20] <Malsid> Does anyone know of some personal organisation software that either comes with Ubuntu or is easy to aquire?
[12:20] <zhukov> lleberg, w8
[12:20] <podge> Echylo: How do you relate the filename to the song name?
[12:20] <mhz> I have installed firestarter and I have just one doubt
[12:20] <zth__> how can i reload my /etc/asound.conf ?
[12:20] <ussss> root@pnpaserver:/home/pnpa # sudo sh windowsfstab
[12:20] <ussss> By default the disks will be writable only by root and
[12:20] <ussss> arman (arman)
[12:20] <ussss> Do you want to make the disk writable by all users instead? (y/n)
[12:20] <ussss> what i do now ?
[12:20] <podge> Echylo: Is the filename and the song name in the file together?
[12:21] <zhukov> ussss, n
[12:21] <ussss> ok\
[12:21] <topyli> Seveas: you should add a copyright notice to that script. it's bound to become famous :)
[12:21] <Seveas> topyli, i will in the next version
[12:21] <Echylo> podge, no
[12:21] <ussss> done! but nothing happen...like no msg...
[12:21] <Seveas> when i figure out how to get disk labels
[12:21] <ussss> after N\
[12:21] <Seveas> ussss, that's ok
[12:21] <mhz> how can I tell FireStarter to enable ONE port for 192.168.181.0/255.255.255.0 ???
[12:21] <Seveas> they are mounted now
[12:21] <podge> Echylo: So how do you relate a filename to a song name?
[12:21] <Seveas> in /mnt/
[12:21] <Malsid> I have the memory of a goldfish. And paper gets lost : (
[12:22] <ussss> ok
[12:22] <ussss> wait...
[12:22] <ussss> ill check
[12:22] <Hajuu> heya
[12:22] <zhukov> lleberg, when does it beep?
[12:22] <zerokills> hi hajuu
[12:22] <mhz> Sveas, how can I tell FireStarter to enable ONE port for 192.168.181.0/255.255.255.0 ???
[12:22] <bigfoot1> easy question: how do i figure out my IP address (i don't have a router)?
[12:22] <topyli> Malsid: apt-get install tomboy :)
[12:22] <Echylo> podge, don't understand what you mean, the txt files just have the titles of the song in it like = " 01 Real love" ....
[12:22] <jmazaredo> can i use ubuntu as a internet server? do i need to get some files or just edit some text?
[12:22] <zhukov> bigfoot1, ifconfig
[12:23] <stevegriff> boo
[12:23] <Malsid> lleberg: Might be your mobo or your bios so it might not be possible to dissable short of ripping out the system speaker.
[12:23] <zhukov> jmazaredo, what do you mean? ftp, http?
[12:23] <jmazaredo> like a internet gateway to share internet
[12:23] <ussss> i try to make "ls" in /mnt/ nothing ive seen there
[12:23] <Malsid> topyli: You ever used it?
[12:23] <lleberg_> zhukov, just a few seconds after i push the button, before ubuntu startup
[12:23] <topyli> sure
[12:23] <zhukov> jmazaredo, there is an entry about that in ubuntuguide.org i think
[12:23] <Hajuu> uhm... having some trouble with this hard drive... It got all screwed up, so I did a lowlevel format.. and then cfdisk added a partition (primary, 1).. and cfdisk says its of type "linux" but why does mount ask me to specify type?
[12:23] <topyli> Malsid: every day
[12:24] <podge> Echylo: Okay.. If you have a filename song1.mp3 .. How do you know what to rename the mp3 file to?
[12:24] <lleberg_> and, another sound-related question..
[12:24] <iluciv> has anyone got point2play and ati?? need some help I have direct rendering in glxinfo but point2play's system test says I don't have it working any ideas
[12:24] <topyli> Malsid: now that it's become usable :)
[12:24] <jmazaredo> entry? in the forums?
[12:24] <Seveas> hmm, ussss seems like i forgot one thing
[12:24] <Malsid> topyli, cool I'll check it out now.
[12:24] <mhz> Seveas, I have finally NFS running. FireStarter had blocked it, even after I specified to enable for "local". :(
[12:24] <zhukov> jmazaredo, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ShareInternetConnection
[12:24] <lleberg_> On startup, i can't get any sound working, i have to kill esd to get it running
[12:24] <Echylo> podge, "artist - songname.mp3" but the artist is not hard to add, so just "songname.mp3"
[12:24] <Seveas> ussss, as root type: mount -a
[12:24] <ussss> ok
[12:24] <zhukov> oh
[12:25] <zhukov> lleberg, the beep is not because ubuntu
[12:25] <ussss> wait, I guess I forgot something....
[12:25] <jmazaredo> thanks bro :)
[12:25] <zhukov> lleberg, but about the no sound problem...what soundcar do you have?
[12:25] <zhukov> *soundcard
[12:25] <zhukov> hoary, right?
[12:25] <ussss> I forgot the Power cable of HDD 2
[12:25] <zerokills> iluciv have you enabled the config?
[12:25] <lleberg_> zhukov, an integrated on my msi neo4 motherboard
[12:25] <podge> Echylo: Give me actual examples of the mp3 filenames.. and also some examples of the song names in the text files..
[12:26] <zhukov> lleberg, w8
[12:26] <lorz> i nid help on yahoopops
[12:26] <lleberg_> zhukov, some realtec
[12:26] <podge> Echylo: In a private chat if you want..
[12:26] <zhukov> lleberg, the same here
[12:27] <zhukov> but i dont remember exactly how i managed to solve the problem
[12:27] <lleberg_> zhukov, bummer :P
[12:27] <zhukov> so far i only have a decode problem with aac in mplayer...
[12:27] <Hajuu> anybody?
[12:27] <zhukov> lleberg, just give me some secs
[12:27] <lleberg_> aight
[12:28] <mhz> anyone using fireStarter???
[12:28] <iluciv> zerokills: ?? I think so
[12:28] <ussss> mhz,
[12:28] <ussss> me
[12:28] <ussss> :)
[12:28] <ussss> i used it as firewall and Internet connection sharing
[12:29] <mhz> ussss, how do you tell it to enable a service for specific range of local IP's?
[12:29] <zhukov> lleberg, alsa installed?
[12:29] <zerokills> iluciv: if not, check this site http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto, it helped me to enable my nvidia-glx config
[12:29] <mhz> ussss, so far I did "IP: 192.168.181.0/255.255.255.0" but still blocks the service
[12:30] <iluciv> zerokills: do you know how I can check if it is enabled?
[12:31] <topyli> Hajuu: perhaps mount doesn't know if it's ext2 or ext3. dunno
[12:31] <ussss> mhz, what service ? firewall ?
[12:31] <zhukov> lleberg, think i found it
[12:31] <mhz> ussss, nfs
[12:31] <zhukov> lleberg, read this ALL before do anything, ok? :D Worked for me and a lot of folks  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8882
[12:31] <Galett> wich client can i use for jabber in GTK ?
[12:31] <no0tic> Galett: gaim
[12:31] <mhz> ussss, I "added a rule" and selected "IP"
[12:32] <Galett> but with gaim i can't create my account
[12:32] <zhukov> just a question... gaim uses msn server to transfer files via msn, but amsn has the same problem?
[12:32] <no0tic> Galett: create your account via web & then use it :)
[12:32] <topyli> Galett: if you only want jabber, you could try gossip
[12:32] <Galett> ok thx
[12:32] <zerokills> iluciv: well, in my case, if it wasnt enabled, my point2play system check came back with problems too
[12:33] <bigfoot1> i did ifconfig. which is my ip address: the one in eth0 or ppp0?
[12:33] <zerokills> iluciv: other than that, i dont know how to check if its enabled
[12:33] <ussss> mhz, wait... im fixing my problem too......
[12:33] <ussss> ive got problem mounting my HDD
[12:33] <ussss> windows HDD
[12:33] <ussss> i mean
[12:33] <zhukov> bigfoot1, are you connect by ethernet card or modem?
[12:34] <pisuke> hi
[12:34] <Malsid> topyli: Tomboy just crashes on my system it seems : (
[12:34] <zhukov> if you want your outside ip it shoud NOT be the one like 192.x.x.x or 168.x.x.x or 10.x.x.x
[12:34] <bigfoot1> zhukov, i have an always on internet connection. so i think this means ethernet.
[12:34] <bigfoot1> yes ethernet. coz i use lan cables
[12:34] <bigfoot1> .
[12:35] <pisuke> Is it possible to baseconfig a deboostraped horay and tell it NOT to pull ubuntu-desktop?
[12:35] <topyli> Malsid: it still crashes for me too on occasion. the panel applet code is imperfect
[12:35] <zhukov> bigfoot1, so what exactly do you want?
[12:35] <topyli> Malsid: on a fresh login, it's stable, but if i respawn the panel, it just dies
[12:35] <bigfoot1> zhukov, i'd like to know my pc's ip address.
[12:35] <Malsid> topyli, I mean it doesn't even start. I'll try a reboot. brb.
[12:35] <bigfoot1> I'd like to know the information that other computers need to find me.
[12:35] <zhukov> lleberg, i've found this one to, in case you wanna take a look http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26567
[12:36] <topyli> Malsid: no! a logout will do
[12:36] <topyli> man
[12:36] <no0tic> bigfoot1:  60.237.183.218
[12:36] <zhukov> bigfoot1, give both ips please
[12:36] <no0tic> bigfoot1: is your external IP
[12:37] <bigfoot1> no0tic, how'd you figure that out?
[12:37] <zhukov> dns search
[12:37] <bigfoot1> what's an external ip? does that mean i have an internal ip, too?
[12:37] <Fr0Gs> having some problems with ati graphics can someone message me please with some help tips ;)
[12:37] <no0tic> bigfoot1: if you're using xchat, right click on a nick name and choose info -> dns search
[12:37] <bigfoot1> zhukov, is it safe to give another person my ip addresses? isn't it like giving out your real home's address?
[12:38] <zhukov> bigfoot1, there is an internet ip (external) and if you are connected to networks there is an internal ip adress
[12:38] <bigfoot1> i put my ip address into firefox, but nothing happened.
[12:38] <no0tic> bigfoot1: staying here you are giving your ip address
[12:38] <bigfoot1> how do i know if i'm connected to networks, zhukov ?+
[12:38] <zhukov> bigfoot1, most likely your ip is dynamic wich means it changes, in a maximum period of 36 hours
[12:39] <zhukov> bigfoot1, if you ask that you arent :)
[12:39] <Funraiser> how come when I type "w" sometimes I see 3 me?
[12:39] <no0tic> bigfoot1: you must enable a http server to connect to your pc via web
[12:40] <no0tic> Funraiser: 1 X user, 1 shell user, if you are doing something else in another shell, other user...
[12:40] <bigfoot1> zhukov, what makes you think my ip is dynamic?
[12:40] <zhukov> dunno...disconnect and reconnect and see if the ip is the same...
[12:40] <bigfoot1> zhukov, please explain what you mean by it not being safe .
[12:40] <lleberg_> why can't i find the libesd-alsa0 package.. why is this?
[12:41] <zhukov> i never said it wasnt safe...
[12:41] <Funraiser> no0tic, oh ok
[12:41] <bigfoot1> disconnect from xchat? or restart my computer? or unplug the internet thing connected to my pc?
[12:41] <zhukov> lleberg, 64 bits?
[12:41] <lleberg_> zhukov, yeah.
[12:41] <zhukov> bigfoot1, the thing thing
[12:41] <bigfoot1> can people find out a lot about you with only your IP address?
[12:41] <lleberg_> (still can't figure out why i bother with it)
[12:41] <Fr0Gs> has anyone ever got a ATI Radeon working on ubuntu good
[12:41] <zhukov> lleberg, :S
[12:41] <no0tic> Fr0Gs: me
[12:41] <zhukov> lleberg, do bother with it
[12:42] <lleberg_> zhukov, i guess
[12:42] <lleberg_> zhukov, But how to get it working?
[12:42] <Funraiser> no0tic, so if someone is currently using my system (remotely for example) I can see it with "w"?
[12:42] <zhukov> :) i started with gentoo wondering what ls was for...and after 72 hours ive made it work :D never give up :)
[12:42] <no0tic> Funraiser: yes
[12:42] <Funraiser> good
[12:42] <Funraiser> thanks
[12:43] <radix> was the macromedia flash plugin removed from multiverse somewhat recently?
[12:43] <zhukov> did you saw my second link? lleberg i do know there are some problems with that package and 64 bits...
[12:43] <bigfoot1> can people find out a lot about you with only your IP address?
[12:43] <zhukov> i think that is reviewed in the links
[12:43] <Malsid> topyli, Can't stat it up get an unhandled exception:  DBus.DBusException: No reply within specified time.
[12:43] <Funraiser> no0tic, where is the log to check if someone connected?
[12:43] <Malsid> start*
[12:44] <zhukov> bigfoot1, in windows with no firewall they can
[12:44] <lleberg_> zhukov, i didn't..
[12:44] <bigfoot1> what can they find out in the windows case? what about for us ubuntu/linux folks?
[12:44] <zhukov> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26567
[12:45] <zhukov> bigfoot1, dont worry you are safe in ubuntu unless you are the big boss of kgb or cia or something like that :D
[12:46] <lleberg_> I've got to eat something..
[12:46] <bigfoot1> what about for privacy?
[12:46] <zhukov> bigfoot1, but i think this is not the right place for those questions...you can     sudo apt-get install amule      and search in there for network book...they can teach you a lot more than i
[12:47] <pmjdebruijn> is there anywhere where I can get the separated patches for the Ubuntu kernel?
[12:47] <spektr> Using the aptitude curses interface I can mark a package "upgradable", i.e. aptitude will no longer "hold" it; is there a way to do this using only the command-line? (uninstalling/installing the package would work, but is there a way to do it without uninstalling?)
[12:47] <bigfoot1> does amule have a website? is it amule.org
[12:47] <bigfoot1> ?
[12:47] <zhukov> lleberg, me too...almost 20 hours with just a muffin
[12:48] <pmjdebruijn> oh wait, the patch contains patches... :s
[12:48] <zhukov> bigfoot1, it google.com
[12:48] <topyli> Malsid: hrm. could be a mono bug too. i have a newer mono and tomboy
[12:48] <bigfoot1> zhukov, i googled it. wasn't sure which i should look at.
[12:48] <bigfoot1> are you referring to "the all-platform eMule p2p client", zhukov ?
[12:48] <zhukov> bigfoot1, amule perhaps?... :D just install it and run it
[12:48] <zhukov> yes
[12:49] <scott_> I need help with my sound audigy zs 2 soundcard, it doesn't wokr
[12:49] <zerokills> omg omg omg
[12:49] <zerokills> 50 minutes left of download, started at 360 minutes
[12:50] <parabolize> zerokills what game?
[12:50] <scott_> crimsun: when I do  amixer sset 'Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack' on it says amixer: Unable to find simple control 'Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack',0
[12:50] <zhukov> just a kestion...anyone managed to play divx with aac in mplayer?
[12:50] <zhukov> ???
[12:50] <zerokills> parabolize: i couldnt get Half-Life 2 to install with p2p, so i had to download all the files thru steam.. almost done :)
[12:51] <topyli> Malsid: tee-hee. i removed tomboy and tried to reload it. kept dying. i respawned my panel and it took gaim with it too :)
[12:51] <zhukov> Half-Life 2 is competing for the "worst way to spend 55 euros"...
[12:52] <topyli> Malsid: logged out, and everything was cool on login again
[12:52] <zerokills> zhukov: Half-Life 2 is worth it because it comes with Counter Strike: Source
[12:53] <radix> this is bizarre
[12:53] <radix> maybe it's just my mirror that doesn't have flashplugin-nonfree
[12:54] <zhukov> zerokills, isnt worth in my pc (grpahics card 128mb - amd 2600+ overlock@ 3200+ - 768 mb ram)
[12:54] <radix> is anyone here running hoary and successfully installed flashplugin-nonfree?
[12:55] <radix> packages.ubuntu.com says it exists, but I can't for the life of me find it with apt or synaptic
[12:55] <bigfoot1> zhukov, you still interested in knowing the 2 ip addresses
[12:55] <bigfoot1> ?
[12:55] <zhukov> radix, me
[12:56] <zhukov> radix, the nonfree? why do you want that one?
[12:56] <zhukov> bigfoot1, nop
[12:57] <Seveas> radix, amd64?
[12:57] <radix> zhukov: because I want to see flash
[12:57] <radix> Seveas: yeah!
[12:57] <radix> I hadn't thought that that might be relevant.
[12:57] <Seveas> radix, there is no flash for amd
[12:57] <scott_> Heres my situation: I have two 160 gig hard drives, one is 100 gigs linux 60 gigs windows. My second hard drive just stores data. My fdisk is listed here:http://pastebin.ca/14213. How do I mount the drives?
[12:57] <zhukov> wahts wrong with flashplayer-mozilla?
[12:57] <radix> Seveas: bloody hell. wouldn't the 32bit version work?
[12:57] <Seveas> macromedia is ignoring linux, so support sucks and there is nothing for amd64
[12:57] <Seveas> radix, only in a 32 bit chroot
[12:57] <radix> crappy
[12:58] <radix> zhukov: I don't have that package
[12:58] <zhukov> scott_, http://ubuntulinux.nl/~dennis/windows_fstab
[12:59] <scott_> zhukov:what do I do whith that?
[12:59] <zhukov> scott_, save it to the disk as (name).sh and then run it in a shell as sudo ./name.sh
[12:59] <Seveas> sudo sh name.sh
[12:59] <zhukov> radix, might be crapy but works flawless for me
[12:59] <radix> zhukov: I don't have *access* to that package
[12:59] <radix> just like flashplugin-nonfree
[12:59] <Seveas> zhukov, and mozilla will save it as windows_fstab automatically
[01:00] <radix> I wasn't responding to you with "Crappy", I was responding to Seveas.
[01:00] <zhukov> by the way...is it just me or firefox closes itself sometimes?
[01:00] <zhukov> radix, sorry then
[01:00] <radix> apt-cache search flashplayer-mozilla -> nothing
[01:01] <zhukov> sorry sorry! :P
[01:01] <zhukov> new amule record 210 KB :)
[01:02] <scott_>  zhukov: it says command now found
[01:02] <scott_> *not
[01:02] <digitalux> hello everybody
[01:02] <digitalux> I have a quick question
[01:02] <zhukov> scott_, were?
[01:02] <digitalux> I'm using the latest ubuntu on my laptop (Acer aspire 1680)
[01:03] <scott_> zhukov:in terminal
[01:03] <digitalux> but, everything is working, except the battery status
[01:03] <scott_> zhukov: I named the file mount.sh and it is located in home
[01:03] <zhukov> scott_, what are you typing?
[01:03] <digitalux> how can I see the battery status?
[01:03] <zhukov> digitalux, the status or timeleft?
[01:03] <digitalux> is there a kernel patch somewhere?
[01:03] <Seveas> scott_, sudo sh mount.sh
[01:03] <digitalux> the gnome applet doesn't find the battery ;-)
[01:03] <zhukov> sudo ./mount.sh
[01:03] <HaRDaWaY> hello
[01:03] <zhukov> digitalux, oh
[01:04] <zhukov> dunno then
[01:04] <Seveas> zhukov, that'll only work if it is executable...
[01:04] <HaRDaWaY> anybody have problems with "starting hotplug subsystem" when hoary boots? my laptop freeze in these moment.
[01:04] <Mattte> Does anyone know how to stop network interfaces to from loading automaticly when you start the system?
[01:04] <HaRDaWaY> :|
[01:04] <zhukov> Seveas, thanks :)
[01:05] <Seveas> Mattte, in /etc/network/interfaces remove the lines that say: auto eth0
[01:05] <digitalux> Mattte, destroy the interfaces ;-)
[01:05] <digitalux> :-)
[01:05] <Seveas> or auto whatever
[01:05] <zhukov> Mattte, ill higlhy unadvise you to do that
[01:05] <zhukov> in my laptop if i do that gnome wont start sometimes
[01:06] <fouraha> salut
[01:06] <zhukov> you can easily bipass that with ctrl+c
[01:06] <HaRDaWaY> zhukov is to me ?
[01:06] <lleberg_> I still need to kill ESD to get my sound from xmms working :(
[01:06] <Mattte> zhukov, I want to start them manually because for some reason it takes a very long time to configure wireless network during startup, but very fast if I do it manually
[01:06] <HaRDaWaY> ah ok
[01:06] <deco> hi
[01:06] <Seveas> lleberg, change the xmms output plugin to esound then...
[01:07] <Malsid> Anyone use any personal organiser software apart from tomboy?
[01:07] <HaRDaWaY> i have toshiba satellite m40-145 (pci-e), and..in "starting hotplug subsystem"...system freeze. :|
[01:07] <zerokills> lleberg_ you know the command to kill esd?
[01:07] <deco> is there something ligher graphical interface for ubuntu, since this gnome is kinda laggy with this crappy computer?
[01:07] <lleberg_> zerokills, Yeah, but i shouldn't have to
[01:07] <zhukov> Mattte, look, whrn they start configuring netwok interfaces you can press ctrl+c and solve it...but go ahead...maybe it just in my case :) anyway, if that happens you'll know why and can solve it :)
[01:07] <scott_> zhukov: thank you
[01:07] <mjr> deco, xfce4 might be worth a shot
[01:07] <lleberg_> Seveas, How?
[01:07] <deco> mjr: i can download it with apt-get?
[01:07] <Mattte> zhukov, thanks a lot!!!
[01:07] <zhukov> scott_, no prob
[01:08] <zhukov> Mattte, no prob :)
[01:08] <zerokills> lleberg_, im not familiar with xmms, sorry
[01:08] <Seveas> lleberg_, open the xmms preferences with <ctrl> p, go to plugins, go to output and select esd/esound
[01:08] <digitalux> what I do for a init script from loading is simply chmod 000 them :-)
[01:08] <digitalux> lol
[01:09] <Malsid> I couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery without electronic aid.
[01:09] <lleberg_> Seveas, ii started esd again, and it seems to work. :)
[01:10] <radix> hrm, and this free flash player (libflash-mozplugin) doesn't work on any flash I can find either :(
[01:10] <lleberg_> Seveas, Thanks!
[01:10] <Malsid> I'm sure there must be some sort of software out there with schedules and todo lists and whatnots...
[01:11] <HaRDaWaY> mmm i have to disable hotplug to enter y my ubuntu hoary system..ufff!!
[01:11] <zhukov> well gotta make the lunch
[01:11] <HaRDaWaY> *in
[01:11] <zhukov> HaRDaWaY, what?
[01:11] <Malsid> radix, if it's any consolation you're really not missing much.
[01:11] <HaRDaWaY> zhukov yes, i have toshiba satellite m40-145 (pci-express)..and..ubuntu freeze, in boot, when "starting hotplug subsystem"
[01:11] <zth__> how can i reload my /etc/asound.conf ?
[01:11] <HaRDaWaY> :|
[01:11] <radix> Malsid: umm, yes I am :)
[01:12] <radix> there are a number of pretty important sites to me that use flash
[01:12] <zhukov> oh another one :)
[01:12] <zhukov> try this
[01:12] <deco> zth__: try killall esd
[01:12] <zhukov> boot in safe mode or rescue or whatever...the second ubuntu :D
[01:12] <zhukov> sudo gedit /grub/menu.lst i thik
[01:12] <deco> zth__: or what ever you soundsystem is
[01:13] <HaRDaWaY> zhukov aha
[01:13] <HaRDaWaY> and..then?
[01:13] <zhukov> and add this pci=noacpi to the first kernrl
[01:13] <HaRDaWaY> ahh ok, thanks
[01:13] <zhukov> HaRDaWaY, reboot and check
[01:13] <zhukov> if it doesnt work just remove it
[01:13] <HaRDaWaY> ok, thanks zhukov im going to try it
[01:13] <zhukov> HaRDaWaY, you know were to add it, right?
[01:14] <HaRDaWaY> yes
[01:14] <HaRDaWaY> i know
[01:14] <zhukov> :)
[01:14] <HaRDaWaY> i have add yesterday something as noapic and nolapic
[01:14] <HaRDaWaY> but..i dont put pci= before
[01:15] <zhukov> ?
[01:15] <HaRDaWaY> sorry for my english
[01:15] <zhukov> it isnt needed?
[01:15] <mhz> What do I need to specify in order to let FireStarter accpet NFS from certain range of local IP's???
[01:15] <HaRDaWaY> ok, zhukov im going to try it
[01:15] <zhukov> i thought it was... :P well sorry then
[01:15] <jmazaredo> if i want to change the ownership of a directory to root will "chown root:root FOLDER" will sufice?
[01:15] <radix> jmazaredo: for that directly only; if you want to recurse to the files and so forth it contains, add -R
[01:16] <jmazaredo> will it affect mailing?
[01:16] <radix> mailing?
[01:16] <zhukov> and v to
[01:16] <jmazaredo> yup
[01:16] <zhukov> -Rv so you can see whats going on :)
[01:16] <radix> I have no idea what you're talking about. you didn't say anything about mail...
[01:17] <jmazaredo> because recently I added an account to my system i chowned the some directory to get it accessed by that user then somehow it can't receive mail but it can send mail. :)
[01:18] <radix> what directory?
[01:18] <jmazaredo> html
[01:18] <radix> html where?
[01:18] <jmazaredo> in apache default like the www/html
[01:19] <jmazaredo> is there something to do with chowning?
[01:19] <radix> ok, that shouldn't affect your mail setup. But maybe you accidentally chowned something else, like the user's spool file.
[01:20] <jmazaredo> i added a group named www and add a webmaster account under it
[01:20] <jmazaredo> then chowned the html directory
[01:20] <jmazaredo> weird
[01:20] <jmazaredo> hehe
[01:21] <jmazaredo> but all account that i create in " adduser NAME " can send and retrieve mail
[01:21] <jmazaredo> just that one
[01:21] <jmazaredo> ;] 
[01:23] <zhukov> shes big, shes black and she pump a lot of air she a 500mm fan shes a 500mm fan...lalalalalalala  musical moment of the day...
[01:24] <zhukov> its a she :D
[01:24] <zerokills> i have one of the hugest fans on my cpu, its as loud as my vacuum cleaner
[01:24] <zhukov> in english you just treat a fan sexless...as the printers
[01:25] <zhukov> in portuguese printer is a female...
[01:25] <pmjdebruijn> it's also kinda pointless to brag about a noisy fan ... :p
[01:25] <zerokills> lol
[01:25] <zhukov> :)
[01:25] <zerokills> hey, but my cpu stays cool
[01:26] <radix> zhukov: we still say that computers are female, though ;)
[01:26] <zhukov> mine too...and silent :) and the room is cool to :D
[01:26] <radix> just like cars ;)
[01:26] <pmjdebruijn> my fans are near silent, and stuff keeps cool to... everything under 50 degrees while under load
[01:26] <zhukov> true?
[01:26] <zhukov> radix, why female?
[01:26] <pmjdebruijn> radix: hey, whatever floats your boat...
[01:27] <radix> zhukov: it's probably a sexual thing ;)
[01:27] <zhukov> in here they're male :(
[01:27] <zhukov> i want a female pc!!
[01:27] <radix> hehe
[01:27] <zhukov> from now on my pcs are all female
[01:28] <dwing> hi
[01:28] <zerokills> hola
[01:28] <zhukov> mouse will be rata, keyboar will be teclada, screen will be ecrana, printer will continue impressora
[01:28] <zhukov> thats it :D surrounded :)
[01:28] <dwing> is it possible to copy a directory without any hidden subdirectories?
[01:28] <radix> haha
[01:29] <deco> yeah, this xfce is much better than gnome with this slow computer, thanks mjr
[01:30] <podge> pmjdebruijn: What CPU are you running?
[01:30] <pmjdebruijn> podge: AMD Athlon XP 2200+
[01:30] <Ben_Babcock> This tapping thing is annoying . . . how do I turn off the "tap-to-click" feature of my touchpad in Ubuntu?
[01:30] <podge> pmjdebruijn: What CPU fan?
[01:31] <mhz> What do I need to specify in order to let FireStarter accpet NFS from certain range of local IP's???
[01:31] <pmjdebruijn> podge: GlacialTech SilentBreeze 462 III, and a GlacialTech 80x80 casefan
[01:31] <podge> pmjdebruijn: I need some high volume fans on my AMD 2600.. it is a bit whiney..
[01:32] <jmazaredo> whats the command for deleting a file? hehe i have setuped web/mail/internet but i can delete a file :)
[01:32] <pmjdebruijn> and of course a dual fan power supply
[01:32] <madsen> Weird... My firefox just started exiting with status 0 when run... It's like it doesn't even try to start up.
[01:32] <radix> madsen: does "ifconfig" show that your lo interface is up?
[01:33] <podge> madsen: Are you running firefox from a terminal window?
[01:33] <madsen> radix: Yup, lo is up.
[01:33] <madsen> podge: Yup
[01:34] <podge> madsen: Installed any plugins or extensions recently?
[01:34] <madsen> strace firefox doesn't really reveal anything useful.
[01:34] <zhukov> damn i just spilled 1 litre of juice on top of me
[01:34] <madsen> podge: Yeah, but it ran fine for a while. Untill X crashed.
[01:34] <solli> Does anybody know about a good mp3-player (HDD) which works as a mountable hdd on linux?
[01:35] <Funraiser> zhukov, beer juice?
[01:35] <podge> madsen: Was it a plugin or an extension?
[01:35] <madsen> podge: I had to restart firefox to finish the extension install and it came up just fine afterwards.
[01:35] <madsen> podge: extension.
[01:35] <podge> madsen: yep..
[01:35] <zhukov> Funraiser, apple and lichia juice
[01:35] <zhukov> damnit
[01:35] <Funraiser> zhukov, too bad
[01:35] <madsen> podge: I installed like 6 extensions...
[01:35] <zerokills> lichia?
[01:35] <zhukov> sudo apt-get remove all_this_juicy_mess
[01:36] <madsen> podge: But I think I've started firefox 8 times since then --- no problems.
[01:36] <podge> madsen: Try running the profile manager.. firefox -ProfileManager
[01:36] <zhukov> command not found?? what do you mean with command not found?
[01:36] <Funraiser> sudo rm -rf juice
[01:36] <podge> madsen: Maybe something stuffed with the default profile..
[01:36] <Max> how are you doing guys.
[01:36] <zerokills> sudo apt-get install dry-towel
[01:36] <zhukov> oh that worked :D
[01:36] <madsen> Hmm, the profileManager comes up fine. :)
[01:37] <zerokills> hiya max
[01:37] <podge> madsen: Create a new profile..
[01:37] <Funraiser> lol
[01:37] <podge> madsen: And run with that..
[01:37] <zhukov> nice towel :D
[01:37] <Max> when the next release of ubuntu is due?
[01:37] <zerokills> hehe
[01:37] <mjr> Max, October
[01:37] <madsen> podge: I'm trying, but nothing happens. :(
[01:37] <Max> zerokills, hello are you today
[01:37] <Max> mjr, what will be special there?
[01:37] <podge> madsen: So you can't even create a new profile?
[01:38] <Max> how can i download kubuntu???
[01:38] <zerokills> max, good yourself?
[01:38] <deco> i have some hauppauges capture card or something like that, what software would be best to download with apt-get?
[01:38] <madsen> podge: Yeah, I can, but I can't run ff with it.
[01:38] <Max> zerokills, i am fine.. thank you
[01:38] <mjr> Max, well, special and special... There'll be the new Gnome, and I hear that Mono and Beagle will make an appearance
[01:38] <zerokills> guys, 30 seconds left of download.. omg omg omg
[01:38] <podge> madsen: firefox -P profile
[01:38] <Max> mjr, thats cool
[01:38] <podge> madsen: Doesn't work?
[01:39] <Max> zerokills, what are you downloading?
[01:39] <Funraiser> deco, xawview works fine on mine
[01:39] <Max> mjr, how can i download kubuntu..?
[01:39] <madsen> podge: Nope, it just hangs.
[01:39] <Funraiser> deco, installed by default
[01:39] <Max> is it worth?
[01:39] <zerokills> max: Half-Life 2
[01:39] <zerokills> brb
[01:39] <Max> zerokills, thats cool
[01:39] <deco> Funraiser: ok tnx
[01:39] <Max> zerokills, from where are you downloading it?
[01:40] <zerokills> thru steam
[01:40] <podge> madsen: Hmm... that hurts bad..
[01:40] <Funraiser> deco, look on applications/debian/etc...somewhere over there
[01:40] <madsen> podge: Indeed...
[01:40] <madsen> podge: I tried debugging a little with strace, but it doesn't say anything unusual.
[01:40] <deco> Funraiser: ain't there
[01:40] <podge> madsen: Time to reinstall or delete your .mozilla directory..
[01:40] <Funraiser> deco, do u see the debian apps?
[01:40] <deco> Funraiser: not at all
[01:40] <Funraiser> the debian directory
[01:40] <Funraiser> ?
[01:40] <Max> does anyone using kubuntu??
[01:41] <Funraiser> deco, is it the ubuntu english?
[01:41] <deco> Funraiser: and apt-get won't found it either
[01:41] <madsen> podge: Well, my .mozilla dir ain't going nowhere... So perhaps an FF reinstall...
[01:41] <deco> Funraiser: yeah?
[01:41] <podge> madsen: Maybe only delete the /home/madsen/.mozilla/firefox directory..
[01:41] <bigfoot1> anybody interested in a personality hack?
[01:41] <deco> Funraiser: im using xfce4 right now, but that doesn't matter right?
[01:42] <Funraiser> deco, don't know
[01:42] <Max> anyone??
[01:42] <bigfoot1> you interested, max?
[01:42] <deco> it should start from terminal anyways...
[01:42] <madsen> podge: Yeah, that's the one I want to keep. :) Well, perhaps copy the firefox-dir to a different location and then try replacing the pref-files one by one and see which one b0rks it.
[01:42] <Max> bigfoot1, yes
[01:42] <Funraiser> anyway xawview works with happauge tv cards
[01:42] <deco> Funraiser: ok, maybe google tells
[01:42] <Funraiser> well mine works
[01:43] <Max> Funraiser, my tv card does not work in linux.. i am so sad :(
[01:43] <bigfoot1> okay, hold on. but while i'm gone (few seconds), tell me what you think this personality hack is. 8-)
[01:43] <deco> Funraiser: can you open it from the terminal usin xawview?
[01:43] <Mez> mine works great in ubuntu :D
[01:43] <Mez> using tvtim
[01:43] <Mez> tvtime *
[01:43] <madsen> podge: But I doubt it's anything with my profile since I can't create a new one...
[01:43] <Funraiser> deco, well i'm on my laptop right now, the tv card is on the desktop,can't tell u from here, but i 'm pretty sure i can open it from the terminal
[01:43] <deco> Mez: can you record as well with that?
[01:44] <Funraiser> Max,  did u try xawview?
[01:44] <deco> Funraiser: yeah, im just wondering is the command same as the program name
[01:44] <zerokills> brb, rebooting
[01:44] <Fr0Gs> how can i make a ntfs drive writeable not just readonly
[01:44] <Max> Funraiser, the fact is that my card doesnot support linux.. so no point trying
[01:44] <bigfoot1> Okay, the personality hack is here http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4579681.stm
[01:45] <bigfoot1> max, how come the non-response 8-)
[01:45] <bigfoot1> ?
[01:45] <Funraiser> Max, do u know the chipset? bt878?
[01:45] <Max> bigfoot1, about what
[01:45] <Seveas> Fr0Gs, you can't...
[01:45] <madsen> podge: Hmm, removing the .mozilla/firefox dir didn't do anything... It still just hangs... (Instead of returning 0 as it did with the original profile.)
[01:45] <Seveas> ntfs write support is not available
[01:45] <bigfoot1> max, about the personality hack. i was asking you what you think it was?
[01:45] <Max> bigfoot1, oh i am sorry
[01:46] <zhukov> Seveas, you can...but you may destroy data
[01:46] <Seveas> zhukov, i know, captive...
[01:46] <bigfoot1> anyway, the link's up there.
[01:46] <Seveas> but it's too difficult & dangerous
[01:46] <Max> bigfoot1, okay let me check
[01:46] <Linforcer> Hey can anyone tell me where I can set different programs to open on specific desktops?
[01:46] <zhukov> DAMN IT FOR (/"&"()/&"()/&!"$ OUT LOUD! why does firefox keep crashing!!
[01:46] <zhukov> ???
[01:47] <zhukov> downgrading right NOW!
[01:47] <Max> bigfoot1, hmm i need to read it
[01:47] <Max> so anyone using kubuntu???
[01:47] <bigfoot1> not I, max.
[01:47] <Funraiser> Max, i tried
[01:47] <Max> Funraiser, so how is it??
[01:48] <Max> Funraiser, worth trying?
[01:48] <Funraiser> Max, it kinda fu**** my ubuntu gnome install but maybe it's my fault
[01:48] <zhukov> Max, its worthless in my opinion
[01:48] <Max> Funraiser, gow did you installed it?
[01:49] <Max> zhukov, coz its more like xp??? lol :D
[01:49] <podge> madsen: So I guess a reinstall is in order.. :(
[01:49] <ussss> shinu, ?
[01:49] <Funraiser> Max, i did an apt-get install i believe
[01:49] <ussss> u there ?
[01:49] <zhukov> Max, I hate KDE
[01:49] <Max> Funraiser, u installed KDE??
[01:49] <Linforcer> Funraiser: yeah that'll mess it up
[01:49] <podge> zhukov: hate? :)
[01:49] <zhukov> hate
[01:49] <Funraiser> Max, well kubuntu is kde
[01:49] <zhukov> completly
[01:49] <Linforcer> Funraiser: I tried that with Warty back in the day
[01:49] <zhukov> more than windows
[01:50] <madsen> podge: Yup, and that did the job. Now it even works again with my old profile and settings. :)
[01:50] <zhukov> a lot more
[01:50] <bigfoot1> anybody a mac-lover?
[01:50] <podge> zhukov: KDE is configurable.. unlike windows..
[01:50] <Firetech> hmm, how do I start udev with correct permissions? "sudo /etc/init.d/udev start" sets wrong group on some devices (as tty), which causes some programs to stop working...
[01:50] <Max> Funraiser, well i was asking only kde or the whole distro
[01:50] <madsen> podge: Thanks for your time. :)
[01:50] <podge> madsen: Strange..
[01:50] <zhukov> podge, gnome rules
[01:50] <Linforcer> Funraiser: yeah but thuy made  a different thinger mfor it BECAUSE of the problems of installing Gnome and KDE together
[01:50] <podge> madsen: So you still have the extensions etc?
[01:50] <Max> zhukov, i have no problem with anything.. right now i am using xfce4
[01:50] <podge> zhukov: I run gnome everywhere.. minimalist interface..
[01:50] <Funraiser> Max, from ubuntu gnome i did apt-get install kubuntu i think
[01:50] <zhukov> :
[01:50] <Linforcer> Funraiser: therefore installing KDE under Ubuntu != Kubuntu
[01:50] <zhukov> :
[01:50] <podge> zhukov: KDE is good for Windows cronies.. :)
[01:51] <zhukov> damn keyboard ;MMNHOHmkjmnjm
[01:51] <zhukov> :)
[01:51] <Max> Funraiser, okay..
[01:51] <madsen> podge: yup!
[01:51] <zhukov> ah!
[01:51] <Linforcer> Hmm well I see one upside to KDE
[01:51] <madsen> podge: But yeah, indeed odd...
[01:51] <Max> zhukov, cool down dude
[01:51] <zhukov> podge, cronies?
[01:51] <Funraiser> Linforcer, well someone told me it was safe to install Kubuntu form ubuntu so i did it
[01:51] <podge> madsen: I have trouble understanding how the system firefox install was corrupted...
[01:51] <Funraiser> Linforcer, but funny stuff happened since
[01:51] <Max> he means cousines
[01:51] <bigfoot1> can i share a great article i found? From PC World, 30 Things You Didn't Know You Could Do on the Internet. http://www.pcworld.com/resource/printable/article/0,aid,120784,00.asp Do you know of "other things you didn't know could be done on the internet"
[01:51] <Linforcer> Funraiser: maybe it is supposed to be in Hoary
[01:51] <zhukov> Max, this keyboard only works with some punches
[01:52] <madsen> podge: Yeah, me too.
[01:52] <bigfoot1> let me know what you think of the article.
[01:52] <Linforcer> Funraiser: I just remember in Warty it did weeeeird things with sound
[01:52] <Max> zhukov, then u must have good meals..lol
[01:52] <Funraiser> Linforcer, like kde windows opening in gnome...:-(
[01:52] <podge> zhukov: http://www.google.com.au/search?q=define+cronies&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial
[01:52] <madsen> podge: It might have something to do with my X crashing. (That's when it stopped working.)
[01:52] <Linforcer> heh
[01:52] <Linforcer> anyway... The only thing about Kd I like is Konqueror
[01:52] <madsen> podge: I'm playing with the composite extension and stuff and it _is_ pretty unstable after all...
[01:52] <Linforcer> minus the web abilities that is
[01:52] <Max> okay zhukov tell me why do u hate KDE?
[01:53] <Funraiser> I had konqueror opening without asking in ubuntu
[01:53] <podge> madsen: Doing your own extension work?
[01:53] <madsen> Linforcer: KWord is alright too.
[01:53] <Linforcer> it's imo a much better file browser than nautilus
[01:53] <zhukov> now i have no firefox...
[01:53] <madsen> podge: No, just messing around with drop-shadows in Xorg and stuff.
[01:53] <podge> madsen: Cool.. looks good no doubt (when it is running)..
[01:53] <Max> what is the downloading size of KDE???
[01:53] <Linforcer> I'm planning on using fluxbox once I've made my switch to gentoo anyway
[01:54] <podge> madsen: any screenshots?
[01:54] <zhukov> Max, i dunno...it seems all so...fragile. So like all is going down if I sneeze
[01:54] <madsen> podge: It runs alright here, but it is a bit unstable.
[01:54] <madsen> podge: I can make you one, just a sec.
[01:54] <Funraiser> Max, i think you should at least try KDE, personnaly i prefer gnome, KDE is too MS-windows-like to me
[01:54] <zhukov> and i dont like crystal.and i hate the bar
[01:54] <zhukov> yes
[01:54] <Seveas> zhukov, haaatchooooo!
[01:54] <Linforcer> Funraiser: what about KDE is like Windows?
[01:54] <zhukov> :D
[01:54] <Max> Funraiser, yeah thats waht its aim was
[01:54] <Seveas> and it;s broken :)
[01:55] <zhukov> gnome is rock-solid
[01:55] <zhukov> I love this word :)
[01:55] <Funraiser> Linforcer, i dunno know, a general feeling
[01:55] <podge> kde is light years ahead of windows..
[01:55] <Linforcer> hmm
[01:55] <zhukov> thats why came to linux
[01:55] <Max> Funraiser, what is the size of KDE?
[01:55] <Funraiser> no idea
[01:55] <podge> purely because it is so configurable..
[01:55] <zhukov> and i came across ubuntu because o gdesklets :D
[01:55] <zhukov> *of
[01:56] <podge> zhukov: Desklets are cool..
[01:56] <Max> i love ubuntu
[01:56] <Funraiser> podge, when they work
[01:56] <Linforcer> Max:  I get 422 MB
[01:56] <podge> Funraiser: yep..
[01:56] <zhukov> right after warty came out, i installed hoary :D I was using suse, but suse is mainly kde, and i wanted the gdesklets bar :) MacOs freak back then...
[01:56] <Linforcer> Max:  152 MB download
[01:56] <podge> Funraiser: I do remember them being a bit unstable..
[01:56] <Max> zhukov, why do u use desklets?
[01:56] <zhukov> so i googled gnome based distro
[01:56] <zhukov> and ubuntu came along :D
[01:57] <Funraiser> the google mail desklet works at least
[01:57] <zhukov> Max, i use them only only on my laptop for mail and news...and to see the free space of / and /home
[01:57] <Max> zhukov, okay
[01:58] <Linforcer> zhukov: I used SuSE first too... I hate it. but if you could get Novell Linux Desktop which basically is SuSE with Gnome and a Novell theme
[01:58] <Funraiser> Max, gdesklets make your desktop look really cool have a look (and it's useful too) http://www.lynucs.org/?gdesklets
[01:58] <Max> today i got free cds of ubuntu... 5 months after i ordered...lol
[01:58] <Max> i already downloaded 2 releases
[01:58] <Max> lol
[01:58] <Funraiser> lol
[01:58] <Max> but i am happy
[01:58] <Funraiser> still waiting for mine
[01:58] <podge> Max : They were delivered freepost.. :)
[01:58] <Linforcer> my ubuntu with desklets: http://img275.echo.cx/img275/174/screenshot2yh.png
[01:58] <pmjdebruijn> got Hoary yesterday :)
[01:58] <zhukov> oh, and what about that proggy to use your gmail account as a drive?
[01:58] <Max> Funraiser, where are you from?
[01:59] <Funraiser> France why
[01:59] <Funraiser> Max, did u look at the screenshots?
[01:59] <Linforcer> La France!
[01:59] <Linforcer> xD
[01:59] <podge> Linforcer: The post it notes are good..
[01:59] <zhukov> firefox isnt working... :S
[02:00] <Max> Funraiser, yes i did
[02:00] <podge> madsen: How is your screenshot going?
[02:00] <Linforcer> podge: very unfunctional this one though the gnome post its  can do much more... but this one is prettier
[02:00] <reka> hmmm, anyone know how to set xpdf's zoom level to fit the whole page on load-time?  i tried -z="page", -z='page' and -z=page and it none of them seem to work.
[02:01] <Max> linux is cool... very much customizable
[02:01] <podge> Linforcer: I remember that it was difficult to move the desklets around once placed on the desktop.. is that still a problem?
[02:01] <zhukov> 200 or 400 :D
[02:01] <zhukov> podge, i never had that problem
[02:01] <podge> Linforcer: How about a PSP on your list?
[02:01] <Linforcer> podge: not at all rightclick any and say "move desklet"
[02:01] <Linforcer> podge: naaaah
[02:02] <Linforcer> I really should change hthe amount of money >.>
[02:02] <Linforcer> I only need about 380
[02:02] <podge> zhukov: Linforcer: I tried them a while back so they have probably improved heaps!
[02:02] <Max> Linforcer, u better...lol
[02:02] <podge> Linforcer: You also need to add a PS3.. :)
[02:02] <Linforcer> haha
[02:02] <Linforcer> my cube is all I need for now
[02:03] <Funraiser> Max, with gdesklets u could for example have an RSS feed to the desktop or check if u have a new email on a tiny window
[02:03] <podge> Linforcer: Not many details on the Nintendo Revolution..
[02:03] <Linforcer> I bought paper mario for it and for days lator I finished it and it had 60 hrs on the clock
[02:03] <Max> Funraiser, how did u make the bottom icon colorful i dont know how to do that
[02:04] <Linforcer> podge: but apparently (though these are always just rumours) it would lot you buy old nes/snes/n64 games off the web
[02:04] <podge> Linforcer: I bought some old Amiga games off ebay the other day..
[02:05] <Linforcer> amiga >.< that's far back
[02:05] <Funraiser> Max, bottom...icon...(?)
[02:05] <zhukov> http://zhukov.com.sapo.pt/Screenshot.png and http://zhukov.com.sapo.pt/Screenshot2.png     <--- back in the Suse days
[02:05] <Max> Funraiser, yes on the bottom half of ur screen
[02:06] <Linforcer> zhukov: macish
[02:06] <Funraiser> Max, are u using xchat?
[02:06] <podge> Linforcer: Yep.. but I can't deny my past.. :)
[02:06] <Max> Funraiser, yes
[02:06] <zhukov> this is my server right now :  http://zhukov.com.sapo.pt/CapturaEcra.png
[02:06] <Max> Funraiser, why did u ask that>
[02:06] <zhukov> i've solves my mac paranoia with ubuntu
[02:06] <Funraiser> Max, i didn't show u my screen...
[02:06] <Funraiser> ?
[02:07] <Rocha> zhukov, is that your desktop?
[02:07] <zhukov> the last one
[02:07] <zhukov> http://zhukov.com.sapo.pt/CapturaEcra.png
[02:07] <Rocha> zhukov, icon theme very ugly
[02:07] <Max> Funraiser, how do i start desklet?
[02:07] <Linforcer> zhukov: what language is that >.>
[02:07] <zhukov> portuges
[02:07] <Rocha> zhukov, at least the folder icons, very ugly
[02:07] <zhukov> *portuguese
[02:07] <madsen> podge: http://lillesvin.net/stuff/ubuntu_shadows.png
[02:07] <zhukov> i love mac icons :)
[02:07] <Funraiser> Max, follow http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#gdesklets
[02:07] <Max> i am so sorry it was Linforcer's
[02:07] <madsen> podge: Sorry about the delay, my X crashed again (probably because of the composite ext.)
[02:08] <Linforcer> zhukov:  more importantly, who's the chick
[02:08] <Max> Funraiser, i have desklets installed
[02:08] <Linforcer> Max: you don't like my icons?
[02:08] <zhukov> my girlfriend :)
[02:08] <Max> Linforcer, i did
[02:08] <Linforcer> zhukov: sweeetttt
[02:08] <Funraiser> Max, applications, accessories, gdesklets
[02:09] <Max> i just wanted to know how u made them colorful. Linforcer
[02:09] <Linforcer> Max: ah, kay... "Gartoon" theme :P
[02:09] <podge> madsen: Nice!!
[02:09] <madsen> podge: :)
[02:09] <Linforcer> Max: got em off Gnome art ;)
[02:09] <podge> madsen: Only problem is the gnome panels look so plain compared to the window toolbars..
[02:10] <Linforcer> zhukov: can't you show me one of the pics on yer desktop instead of the screenie? :P
[02:10] <madsen> podge: Yeah, but the menu and the clock overlays the bg image, so it's really hard to make it look better.
[02:10] <zhukov> Linforcer, dont push it :P
[02:10] <Max> Linforcer, cool
[02:10] <Linforcer> zhukov: aaaaw :(
[02:11] <podge> madsen: So are you a tester or are you just interested in crashing every 15 minutes? :)
[02:11] <Max> Funraiser, do i need to install desklet-data?
[02:11] <madsen> podge: the latter. :)
[02:11] <zhukov> NOIOOOO
[02:11] <zhukov> DONT
[02:11] <Funraiser> Max, yes it's best to follow the guide
[02:11] <zhukov> it has problems
[02:11] <Linforcer> NOOOOO INDEED
[02:11] <madsen> podge: Just had to try it out. I've spent sooo long on Debian missing such options.
[02:11] <Max> Funraiser,  thankx i will
[02:11] <Linforcer> the data messes in up
[02:12] <Linforcer> since the new versions use "controls" rather tha sensors
[02:12] <Linforcer> or was that ermmmm
[02:12] <Linforcer> displays rather than sensors
[02:12] <Linforcer> I think the former
[02:12] <podge> madsen: Do any other window managers have that feature?
[02:13] <Linforcer> Has anyone tried aDesklets?
[02:13] <Funraiser> nope
[02:13] <Max> Funraiser, i am using xfce not GNOME
[02:13] <Funraiser> oh
[02:13] <Linforcer> xfce eeew\
[02:13] <madsen> podge: Well, the feature is implemented in Xorg and the WMs can utilize it... So basically all WMs have it...
[02:13] <Linforcer> xffm is an abomonation
[02:13] <Funraiser> Max, dunno then if it's the same or not
[02:14] <Max> Linforcer, did u say xfce is not good..
[02:14] <Linforcer> Max: I don't have good experiences with it, no
[02:14] <podge> madsen: Nice.. seems like the Xorg guys are really firing up..
[02:14] <Max> Linforcer, well i am trying it.. using from last 3 days
[02:15] <Linforcer> Max:  does it have a mini commander?
[02:15] <madsen> podge: Yeah. Alpha transparency is also supported now, though I don't know how to use it. Hehe.
[02:15] <Max> so i dont have enough experience to comment on it..
[02:15] <Max> but its faster
[02:15] <Linforcer> because at the friend where I used it it didn't anywhere
[02:15] <Linforcer> also xffm is awful
[02:16] <madsen> podge: In reasonably short time translucent menus and good drop shadows should be a reality in Linux.
[02:16] <podge> madsen: What country are you from?
[02:16] <zhukov> madsen, they will
[02:16] <madsen> podge: Denmark, why?
[02:16] <zhukov> brezzy will have them
[02:16] <madsen> zhukov: :)
[02:16] <podge> madsen: It's not filled out in your profile.. :)
[02:16] <madsen> podge: What profile?
[02:16] <Linforcer> will breezy also have a splash screen for grub?
[02:16] <Max> now i want to give away my linux cds to my friends
[02:16] <podge> madsen: When I right click on your IRC username..
[02:17] <madsen> Linforcer: hopefully it'll have bootsplash.
[02:17] <madsen> podge: Oh! :)
[02:17] <zhukov> as well as (not conifrmed) some sort of expose and that sleek animation of the window minimizing to the bar  la mac os :D
[02:17] <madsen> podge: I use irssi, so I don't "right click" anywhere. ;)
[02:17] <zhukov> *confirmed
[02:17] <podge> madsen: My project at the moment is getting my Sun Rays to work on Ubuntu.. pretty much everything figured out except ALSA sound..
[02:18] <Max> hey gotta go guys
[02:18] <madsen> zhukov: I saw some cool stuff somewhere with window movement, minimizing and maximizing. I'll try to look a little for it.
[02:18] <Max> see u later
[02:18] <Funraiser> sul
[02:18] <madsen> podge: Sub Rays?
[02:18] <zhukov> madsen, thanks :D
[02:18] <Max> bye Funraiser
[02:18] <madsen> podge: Sun, even.
[02:18] <Max> byr zhukov
[02:18] <Funraiser> Max, bye dude
[02:18] <podge> madsen: Yeah.. Sun Ray thin clients..
[02:18] <Max> bye zhukov
[02:18] <zhukov> bye Max
[02:18] <Linforcer> does anyone know why a desklet that simply counts down to a darn date takes up 30% processor usage?
[02:18] <Funraiser> lol
[02:18] <Linforcer> because it's still a mystery to me
[02:19] <Funraiser> does it count down from 19878765676545?
[02:19] <madsen> podge: Oh! Sweet!
[02:19] <zhukov> because it is very complicated...
[02:20] <Funraiser> nevermind
[02:20] <podge> madsen: http://nz.sun.com/product-images/large/I1_hw_sunray150_lg.jpg
[02:20] <Seveas> * Funraiser thinks Seveas is very quiet
[02:20] <Seveas> i am at work :)
[02:20] <zhukov> they have to put the cpu in reverse...
[02:20] <zhukov> the all computer is working backwards
[02:20] <podge> madsen: Picked them up for $85 (Australian Dollars)..
[02:20] <madsen> podge: Nice! :)
[02:20] <zhukov> soon enough youll have linux 0.01 :D
[02:20] <madsen> podge: The library in a town where I used to live had like 40 of those. They're pretty nice!
[02:21] <podge> Seveas: Where do you work?
[02:21] <Linforcer> man... I talked to this guy the other day that thought his cpu was like his whole case with contents as oppossed to his processor
[02:21] <zhukov> you can also try aDesklets
[02:21] <zhukov> it is available as an autopackage
[02:21] <zhukov> better bars and so on
[02:21] <zhukov> :)
[02:21] <podge> madsen: I have a few around the house.. so I have Internet/Music roaming with my smart card..
[02:22] <Seveas> podge, University of Amsterdam
[02:22] <luminerd> so many people here, someone must have configured a wacom?
[02:22] <Funraiser> what's a wacom lol?
[02:22] <madsen> podge: Hehe, neat!
[02:22] <Seveas> Funraiser, a tablet
[02:22] <luminerd> Funraiser, a tablet that lets you draw on a little pad and it goes into the comp
[02:22] <madsen> luminerd: I have!
[02:22] <podge> Seveas: What do you do there?
[02:22] <madsen> luminerd: The Volito.
[02:22] <luminerd> madsen, sweet :) I have a volito!!!
[02:23] <Seveas> podge, programming, research, system administration...
[02:23] <luminerd> madsen, do you have a bit of time?
[02:23] <madsen> luminerd: What's the problem? :)
[02:23] <luminerd> madsen, I just can't get it to work!  what kernel btw?
[02:23] <zhukov> welll
[02:23] <zhukov> im of nopw
[02:23] <zhukov> gonna eat and see my princess
[02:23] <podge> Seveas: Cool.. Sounds like my job minus the research..
[02:23] <zhukov> enough ubuntu for now
[02:23] <madsen> luminerd: I used kernel 2.6.11 on debian
[02:24] <podge> zhukov: Was that the girl in the photos?
[02:24] <zhukov> bye!!
[02:24] <zhukov> yup :)
[02:24] <luminerd> madsen, I don't really understand the linuxwacom.sf.net docs...they make little sense to me, I'm really a n00b!  and someone walked me through everything when I was on 2.4...couldn't get it to work :(...now I'm on 2.6 and I just can't understand a bit of the docs. not sure whether to start over, assess where I'm at, or what
[02:24] <podge> zhukov: Daughter or girlfriend? Hard to tell..
[02:24] <zhukov> loool
[02:24] <luminerd> madsen, I'm 2.6.11.11 on Slackware XD
[02:24] <zhukov> girlfriend
[02:24] <erb> hello
[02:24] <podge> zhukov: The screenshots were pretty small..
[02:24] <zhukov> im still young :)
[02:24] <zhukov> just a kid
[02:25] <luminerd> madsen, ironic that though we're in #ubuntu we are both non-ubuntu distros XD
[02:25] <madsen> zhukov: http://www.gnome.org/~seth/blog/xshots <- There
[02:25] <podge> zhukov: haha.. have fun..
[02:25] <madsen> luminerd: I installed Ubuntu yesterday. :)
[02:25] <luminerd> madsen, ah, I see
[02:25] <podge> luminerd: We are just interesting people .. :)
[02:25] <luminerd> lol
[02:25] <Funraiser> all right i'm off too, SUL
[02:25] <zhukov> madsen, thanks
[02:25] <iluciv> ok why would I have opengl direct rendering but no 3d acceleration (this is point2play/cadgera test btw) on a radeon 9250 horay
[02:25] <zhukov> you're all grown up... :D
[02:25] <madsen> zhukov: np. :) Take a look at the videos, they're pretty cool. :)
[02:25] <zhukov> im probbly the youngest here
[02:26] <podge> wobbly windows..
[02:27] <cpop> hello, i'm considering switching to ubuntu for a desktop system, have a few questions
[02:27] <zhukov> but this a new desktop manager or add-ons for gnome?
[02:27] <cpop> i understand it's based on debian, right?
[02:27] <hornsby_> cpop, go ahead
[02:27] <Seveas> cpop, right
[02:27] <cpop> i'm most interested in the update system
[02:27] <hornsby_> cpop, true
[02:27] <reka> cpop: ask away.
[02:27] <Seveas> cpop, same apt system as debian :)
[02:28] <melanoma> rc-hispano.org
[02:28] <cpop> i used debian testing on some server systems and i liked the whole apt deal
[02:28] <Seveas> including a GUI client
[02:28] <cpop> apt-get upgrade, apt-get update, done.
[02:28] <cpop> so same thing works on ubuntu, i take it
[02:28] <Seveas> cpop, other way around :)
[02:28] <hornsby_> cpop, same
[02:28] <cpop> well ok.
[02:28] <Seveas> apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
[02:28] <hornsby_> sudo  in front :)
[02:28] <Seveas> but yeah, Ubuntu uses apt too
[02:29] <cpop> what debian does ubuntu use? testing, unstable, stable?
[02:29] <cpop> or can you customize it just like debian?
[02:29] <hornsby_> cpop, you can if you know what you do
[02:29] <Seveas> cpop, ubuntu is based on sid (unstable) and can be customized to whatever you want basically
[02:29] <kristoffe> im trying to make an raid array from 2x partitions i have, sda1/sdb1, they are both linux raid autodetect types, but when i try to do mkraid /dev/md0 i get cannot determine md version: no MD device file in /dev. , i try to do a MAKEDEV md but it isnt working
[02:29] <AnguS> i thought it was based on sarge...
[02:30] <cpop> can it use debian mirrors or does it need ubuntu specific mirrors?
[02:30] <kristoffe> i dont have the md in /dev, and cant create it
[02:30] <Seveas> AnguS, it is not
[02:30] <delire> out of interest.. anyone here know of a blog/site detailing a migration from OSX to Ubuntu? a friend that uses OSX is switching and asked for some reference material.
[02:30] <Seveas> cpop, right now yu should not use debian mirrors
[02:30] <hornsby_> cpop, you can use debian mirror, again if you know what you do :)
[02:30] <AnguS> i feel a little unconfortable now ahha
[02:30] <Seveas> cpop, and morevover: all debian stuff is also in ubuntu mirrors
[02:30] <cpop> so what's the diff between debian and ubuntu? i gather it's more than just an installer and a desktop theme
[02:31] <cpop> new software, perhaps?
[02:31] <Seveas> cpop, from the next version on you can use mirrors for debian stable again
[02:31] <podge> madsen: Those wobbly windows are pretty cool!
[02:31] <tweakism_> Is it OK to and how do I install the kernel package from breezy on my hoary system?
[02:31] <delire> cpop: sensible defaults to the ends of desktop use.
[02:31] <Seveas> cpop, see www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/relationship for all the info
[02:31] <madsen> podge: Yeah. :)
[02:31] <AnguS> cpop: it's the release process... ubuntu releases about every 6 months, and yes the customize the desktop a bit etc... but all in all it's just debian packages
[02:31] <Seveas> tweakism_, it is not ok
[02:31] <tweakism_> Seveas: :/  Why not?
[02:31] <cpop> can an ubuntu system once installed be updated solely via apt?
[02:32] <AnguS> yes
[02:32] <delire> yes
[02:32] <d3bian> ytes
[02:32] <NicP> yes
[02:32] <NicP> :D
[02:32] <d3bian> si
[02:32] <Seveas> tweakism_, well, basically it can (and will) break stuff...
[02:32] <cpop> that's one of the strong points i think
[02:32] <d3bian> u can upgrade all linux systems from apt or yum
[02:32] <d3bian> in freebsd from ports
[02:33] <d3bian> as well as gentoo
[02:33] <Seveas> d3bian, hmm, yum and upgrading
[02:33] <Seveas> lol!
[02:33] <Seveas> breakage galore...
[02:33] <d3bian> yes!! u can upgrade fedora thru yum
[02:33] <podge> madsen: So what do I need to have the wobbly windows on Ubuntu? :)
[02:33] <delire> eww fedora
[02:33] <d3bian> be advised yum is an rpm version of apt
[02:33] <Seveas> d3bian, not if you don't want to ruin your system :)
[02:33] <tweakism_> Seveas: Ok...  I could compile my own kernel, and that would work.  What exactly does Ubuntu do to warty kernels to break them on hoary?
[02:33] <madsen> podge: Hehe, I have absolutely no clue. :)
[02:33] <Seveas> d3bian, i know, rpms simply aren't good enough for this...
[02:33] <cpop> thanx for the help
[02:33] <kkanto> someone know gdesklets
[02:34] <kkanto> ?????
[02:34] <d3bian> no all the desktops that run on my servers run fedora and ive upgrade them all thru yum
[02:34] <madsen> podge: Perhaps the latest CVS version of Xorg and some patches for it and an insane gfx card. ;)
[02:34] <kkanto> I have the problem
[02:34] <Seveas> kkanto, asking specific questions helps better...
[02:34] <d3bian> what makes u think that seveas
[02:34] <Seveas> d3bian, my experience with fedora crap.
[02:34] <zhukov> hey look
[02:34] <d3bian> im a debian freak but the good guys @ duke created a good tech
[02:34] <zhukov> so it is possible to make this work in ubuntu? :D
[02:34] <zhukov> lets do it
[02:35] <d3bian> well that maybe ur ecperience, mines have been wonderful
[02:35] <Seveas> d3bian, well, you were lucky then...
[02:35] <d3bian> no not really fedora is a good distro
[02:35] <zhukov> he made it wth and extremly shitty card :) i know it because i have one :D
[02:35] <kkanto> My gdesklets daemon failled "vivible property"
[02:35] <d3bian> unfortunately i dont use it but it works for all the users in my network
[02:35] <podge> madsen: Good point!
[02:36] <hornsby_> question : how do you guys based a good or bad distro on ?
[02:36] <madsen> podge: :)
[02:36] <Seveas> d3bian, hmm, fedora a good distro, you are either insane or a troll...
[02:36] <Seveas> hornsby_, sensible defaults, available software, upgrading system, release schedule, policy for including software...
[02:36] <podge> madsen: What do you think of the Sun Looking Glass interface?
[02:37] <d3bian> no u r the insane one just cause ur experience mightve been bad that doesnt mean its bad for the whole world
[02:37] <madsen> podge: Looks pretty nice, but a bit over the top for me. :)
[02:37] <d3bian> what distro do u use let me guess ubuntu
[02:37] <zhukov> im gonna make it... lalalalalalala
[02:37] <hornsby_> Seveas, then fedora suck :) only ubuntu rock
[02:37] <d3bian> where is all configed for you
[02:37] <Seveas> d3bian, it's not just *my* experience....
[02:37] <Shorty--> sifnt fedora suck
[02:37] <Shorty--> :P
[02:37] <Seveas> 100's of peoples experience actually...
[02:37] <xurra> hi all
[02:37] <d3bian> sure buddy
[02:38] <d3bian> hey just check how many fedora users are out there
[02:38] <xurra> i need some help please
[02:38] <d3bian> sup xurra what ur problem
[02:38] <Seveas> xurra, just state the problem/question please
[02:38] <podge> madsen: I loaded it up on SUSE a while ago.. it was cool.. but limited..
[02:38] <xurra> sorry...it'll have to be later
[02:38] <Linforcer> d3bian: Dude... nice English.
[02:39] <Seveas> d3bian, hmm, if you say usercount says all: look how many people use windows....
[02:39] <kafeine> d3bian, just check how many windows users are out there
[02:39] <Linforcer> Haha.
[02:39] <kafeine> Seveas :)
[02:39] <madsen> podge: Didn't it require your first born and an evil gfx card?
[02:39] <podge> madsen: It ran okay on my GeForce 2 GTS..
[02:39] <d3bian> so , whats the problem with that , so are u sayin that win is a bad os?
[02:39] <Linforcer> d3bian: yes
[02:39] <Linforcer> d3bian: the worst
[02:39] <Seveas> d3bian, please stop trolling, this is a help channel, not an advocacy channel...
[02:40] <hornsby_> lets say it is just a matter of taste weither you like or not a distro
[02:40] <Seveas> and yes, i think windows is bad for many reasons
[02:40] <d3bian> if u do then obviously u r either a brainwashed 17 yr old that have not been involved with computers at all
[02:40] <Linforcer> d3bian: and if you troll at least spell "you" and "your"
[02:40] <Seveas> d3bian, please speak proper english...
[02:40] <madsen> podge: Really! I'll have to try it out some time. :)
[02:40] <d3bian> dont worry bout it u understand what im sayin
[02:40] <kafeine> d3bian, you seem to be the brainwashed 17... err... 12 years old
[02:40] <d3bian> im not wastin my time correctin myself
[02:41] <d3bian> in case u forgot ubuntu looks very much like win
[02:41] <Seveas> there
[02:41] <kafeine> sweet:)
[02:41] <Linforcer> ^^
[02:41] <Linforcer> good
[02:41] <deco> hurray \o/
[02:41] <Seveas> no trolling allowed in here, let's get back to helping people
[02:41] <delire> d3bian: ubuntu is more popular than fedora in distrowatch.org at least (if that's any indication).
[02:42] <deco> it doesn't matter if it's popular or not
[02:42] <hornsby_> d3bian, there are some times when one has to know when to stop trolling
[02:42] <Seveas> delire, distrowatch gives an indication of the hype-factor of a distro :)
[02:42] <delire> Seveas: certainly does
[02:42] <haller> can i start gnome using ssh? can i login to gdm using ssh?
[02:42] <Linforcer> Seriously, since when did linux start getting used by people who say "ur"
[02:42] <Seveas> but it's nice to lead it though
[02:43] <dos000> anyone know why i am getting unmet dependencies for mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb when i do dist-upgrade ? i just installed a clean hoary on this system yesterday.
[02:43] <delire> Seveas: Mepis is certainly up there in the hype of late. a fine distro also.
[02:43] <Seveas> haller, you should look at xdmcp or freenx
[02:43] <Seveas> dos000, can you paste the error on pastebin.kaarsemaker.net please
[02:43] <zhukov> this is a pointless discussion
[02:43] <Seveas> dos000, paste your sources.list too
[02:43] <zhukov> and sincerly i'va had enough of this type of discussion
[02:43] <zhukov> c u later
[02:44] <Seveas> hmm, the discussion ended already :)
[02:44] <Linforcer> xD=
[02:44] <Linforcer> Seveas: it must've felt good :P
[02:44] <Seveas> Linforcer, what..?
[02:44] <hornsby_> dos000, paste in flood
[02:44] <hornsby_> #flood
[02:44] <Linforcer> Seveas: Mode #ubuntu +q d3bian!*@* by Seveas
[02:45] <Seveas> no not really, I dont like muting people.
[02:45] <Linforcer> hm
[02:45] <Seveas> But pointless trolling is too disturbing for a help channel
[02:45] <Linforcer> m'kay
[02:45] <delire> a point there though, in-fighting between linux distro's is silly. especially given nasties out there like OSX and windows really ought to be the target.
[02:45] <Linforcer> heh #ubuntu-trolls :P
[02:46] <Seveas> delire, not even that, and certainly not in here
[02:46] <delire> yes, sure
[02:46] <Seveas> windows and osx have their strong points too
[02:46] <pmjdebruijn> Well OS X anyway...
[02:46] <Linforcer> xDI
[02:46] <dos000> Seveas, hornsby_ http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/68
[02:46] <Linforcer> pmjdebruijn: mij thoughts
[02:46] <Seveas> dos000, ahm you are using the us mirror
[02:47] <Seveas> dos000, that mirror is broken
[02:47] <Seveas> dos000: To switch to a working mirror type the following:  sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update
[02:47] <pmjdebruijn> Windows and Strong Points don't go well in the same sentance...
[02:47] <hornsby_> dos000, Seveas said everything :)
[02:47] <delire> pmjdebruijn: OT but having tried OSX I found i dislike it nearly as much as win32.
[02:48] <hornsby_> dos000, I would also uncomment the universe rep.
[02:48] <pmjdebruijn> delire: hmmm but it still has some strong points...
[02:48] <delire> pmjdebruijn: some yes
[02:49] <dos000> Seveas, i still get the same error . i also did the update.
[02:49] <pmjdebruijn> delire: i mean i still have nightmares about the '95 / '98 days... when sysadmins still needed to wair platemail...
[02:49] <Seveas> dos000, hmm, can you try: apt-get install mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb
[02:50] <delire> pmjdebruijn: win98 was the last win32 OS i really used, so i'm very out of touch with what the company offers now.
[02:50] <dos000> Seveas, it depens on thesaurus !
[02:50] <Seveas> dos000, on both
[02:51] <hornsby_> dos000, apt-get install openoffice.org-thesaurus-en-us
[02:51] <Seveas> dos000, but generally, when you try to install a dependency that cannot be installed you get a more helpful error message
[02:51] <hornsby_> dos000, have you uncomment the rep universe ?
[02:51] <dos000> openoffice.org-thesaurus-en-us depends on  mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb  ... looks like there is a cyclic dependency here !
[02:51] <pmjdebruijn> delire: well Windows 2000 / XP aren't *that* bad... especially 2k was nice and stable...
[02:51] <delire> pmjdebruijn: right.
[02:52] <delire> dos000: you did apt-get update first?
[02:52] <dos000> hornsby_, i am trying to avoid universe
[02:52] <dos000> delire, yes
[02:52] <Seveas> dos000, apt can handle cyclic dependencies
[02:52] <Seveas> dos000, have you removed openoffice.org?
[02:53] <delire> dos000: note you can apt-get install two or more packages at the same time. this can sometimes resolve dependencies not satisfied by apt automagically.
[02:53] <dos000> Seveas, not yet .. i can do that tho. as i said this a fresh install.
[02:53] <Seveas> dos000, well, you should *not* remove it, i was just checking
[02:53] <Seveas> dos000, hmm, can you try: apt-get install mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb openoffice-thesaurus-en-us
[02:54] <hornsby_> try to apt-get install openoffice.org-thesaurus-en-us mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb
[02:54] <hornsby_> :D
[02:54] <Seveas> hornsby_, beat ya :p
[02:54] <dos000> Seveas, i tried install both on cmd line .. and .. it looks like it works !
[02:54] <delire> dos000: as i said, this is often a good thing to try before harsher methods
[02:54] <hornsby_> Seveas, great minds ... :)
[02:54] <eruin> I'm trolling d3bian in a pm :P
[02:54] <Seveas> dos000, nice, and now try to install the language-support package again :)
[02:54] <eruin> it's great fun
[02:54] <eruin> ;>
[02:55] <Phreakazoid> hornsby_, your nickname is a suburb near me.. how odd
[02:55] <Seveas> eruin, don't. Or at least keep it to yourself...
[02:55] <delire> eruin: you know what they say about trolls and feeding.
[02:55] <hornsby_> Phreakazoid, it is not my nick, it is my name :9
[02:55] <Phreakazoid> yeah?
[02:55] <hornsby_> yep
[02:55] <Phreakazoid> well there is a place named after you then
[02:55] <dos000> Seveas, i get "language-support-en is already the newest version"
[02:55] <hornsby_> hehe :)
[02:56] <Phreakazoid> except the place Hornsby here was named after someone called "Horne"
[02:56] <Seveas> dos000, well, then you're done :)
[02:56] <hornsby_> Phreakazoid,  thanks for the info :)
[02:56] <dos000> Seveas, thanks !
[02:56] <hornsby_> Phreakazoid, where is that place ?
[02:56] <jind_> How can I get apt-get to ignore missing / faulty MD5Sums?
[02:57] <Seveas> jind_, by using a correct server
[02:57] <Phreakazoid> hornsby_, its a suburb of Sydney, Australia
[02:57] <hornsby_> nice :)
[02:57] <Seveas> the us.archive server is faulty
[02:57] <Seveas> jind_, and you really really really shouldn't ignore md5sum mismatches, they're there for a very good reason...
[02:57] <hornsby_> jind_, sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update
[02:58] <Seveas> hornsby_, copycat :p
[02:58] <hornsby_> :P
[02:58] <jind_> I know. But in this case it's just some unofficial repos
[02:58] <hornsby_> info as fast as possible :)
[02:58] <hornsby_> Seveas, sorry :P
[02:58] <Seveas> jind_, marillat?
[02:59] <jind_> hornsby_, what does that mean?
[02:59] <jind_> What does it do?
[02:59] <Seveas> you should not use that anyway..
[02:59] <Seveas> jind_, but manually downloading and installing the .debs can help you
[02:59] <jind_> I installed the repos from www.ubuntuguide.org
[02:59] <Seveas> jind_, ubuntuguide is bad
[02:59] <jind_> Hm, alright
[02:59] <Seveas> and should not be used
[03:00] <delire> jind_: s/something/newthing is a substitution. the UNIX program sed performs this using the command above on the file sources.list which contains a list of package repositories for use by apt.
[03:00] <CruNcher> hi got a question http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/software/sources-ui.png <- is this allready available ?
[03:00] <jind_> Alright. Do you have a alternative page to get good repos?
[03:01] <Seveas> CruNcher, looks like the synaptic dialog for editing repositories...
[03:01] <Seveas> jind_, all official Ubuntu repositories are listed at http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/38
[03:01] <delire> the ubuntuguide should be updated to include this
[03:02] <Seveas> the Ubuntuguide person doesn't cooperate with others
[03:02] <jind_> thanks a lot. I didn't know ubuntuguide.org is bad. But I have had a some problems with missing dependencies and such from there
[03:02] <haller> XDMCP is too much for me.. can i start a gnome session per bash with ssh?
[03:02] <jind_> I'll take a look at that last link
[03:02] <mjr> haller, yes, just run gnome-session
[03:03] <delire> Seveas: it should be a wiki
[03:03] <delire> s/wiki/"public wiki"
[03:03] <Seveas> delire, indeed
[03:04] <CruNcher> Seveas thx
[03:05] <CruNcher> useing Kubuntu thats why i didn't realized it it seems ;P
[03:05] <delire> hehe yes. does Kubuntu have 'KPackage'?
[03:06] <BurgerMann> does anyone know a consoleprog that scales jpegs fast and efficient?.. this digital camera age kills me when I have to scale photos :s
[03:06] <Seveas> delire, yes
[03:06] <Seveas> BurgerMann, convert
[03:06] <Seveas> part of imagemagick
[03:06] <delire> BurgerMann: ImageMagick
[03:06] <Seveas> BurgerMann, i used that to convert 100's of photos in one command
[03:06] <BurgerMann> Oh... I'll have a look.. thx =)
[03:06] <BurgerMann> Seveas, sweeet!
[03:07] <delire> BurgerMann: convert, display and others are part of the IM set of tools.
[03:07] <delire> .. all fantastic
[03:07] <Seveas> indeed
[03:07] <Seveas> ImageMagick rocks
[03:07] <delire> truly.
[03:07] <Efwis> question, what is a good choice for a fax program for Ubuntu?
[03:08] <delire> Efwis: apt-cache search fax gnome
[03:09] <delire> ok, just drop the 'gnome' ;)
[03:09] <Efwis> I did that, there are 2 listed efax and hylafax
[03:09] <delire> apt-cache show efax
[03:09] <bigfoot1> can anyone tell me how to use a perl (.pl) script? I want to import my firefox bookmarks to del.icio.us
[03:09] <bigfoot1> http://www.hybernaut.com/bdv/delicious-import.html
[03:10] <Seveas> bigfoot1, perl -w filename.pl
[03:10] <delire> perl script.pl?
[03:10] <bigfoot1> delire, Seveas thank you.
[03:10] <delire> yes, the -w switch
[03:10] <Seveas> ALWAYS use the -w switch
[03:10] <delire> yes, wise.
[03:10] <bigfoot1> what's -w?
[03:11] <delire> Efwis: if you don't mind using KDE applications, check out kfax
[03:11] <Seveas> bigfoot1, it will generate warnings when the perl programmer does icky stuff
[03:11] <bigfoot1> and this script requires "requires XML::LibXML (tested with 1.56) and HTML::Parser (tested with 3.26)." where do i get these? Do i already have these?
[03:11] <Seveas> apart from using perl, which is icky by definition :)
[03:11] <delire> hehe, rise Python, Lord of Snakes
[03:12] <Efwis> will it work with gnome?? i didn't think that would work on it
[03:12] <bigfoot1> where do i get the two pre-requisites?
[03:12] <Seveas> bigfoot1, aptitude install libxml-libxml-perl
[03:12] <bigfoot1> efwis, are you talking about this delicious script?
[03:12] <chrissturm> hey, how can i configure xchat to automatically identify with nickserv? :)
[03:12] <Efwis> norm_, i'm talking fax
[03:12] <bigfoot1> Seveas, delire why is perl icky?
[03:12] <Seveas> chrissturm, see the xchat docs :)
[03:12] <bigfoot1> why do yo think so, anyway?
[03:12] <Efwis> damn auto-complete
[03:12] <ryan_> hi,all
[03:13] <mhz> #join squirrelmail
[03:13] <Seveas> bigfoot1, aptitude install libhtml-parser-perl
[03:13] <chrissturm> seveas: any more concrete hint?
[03:13] <delire> bigfoot1: it's not very human readable and uses many 'magic' characters that can get you into a real jam when using inside other programming contexts, like other scripts.
[03:13] <bigfoot1> how did you know the exact filenames? have you installed them yourself?
[03:13] <Seveas> chrissturm, menu x-chat -> server list
[03:14] <Seveas> pick a server
[03:14] <Seveas> choose edit server
[03:14] <Seveas> and put ns identify YOUR_PASSWORD in the connect command box
[03:14] <bigfoot1> interesting i ran "aptitude install libxml-libxml-perl" without the sudo. i thought i would have needed to do sudo with it.
[03:14] <bigfoot1> oh right. the error message was at the end.
[03:14] <bigfoot1> 8)
[03:14] <delire> hehe
[03:14] <mhz> bigfoot1, :)
[03:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> has anyone got the backports mirrors working?
[03:14] <Seveas> bigfoot1, apt-cache search libxml | grep perl :)
[03:15] <bigfoot1> Seveas, The following packages are not AUTHENTICATED:
[03:15] <bigfoot1>   libxml-libxml-common-perl libxml-namespacesupport-perl libxml-libxml-perl
[03:15] <bigfoot1>   libxml-sax-perl
[03:15] <bigfoot1> . is this ok?
[03:15] <Seveas> bigfoot1, what delire said. Plus perl uses really weird things like () not being mandatory etc...
[03:15] <Seveas> bigfoot1, no
[03:15] <chrissturm> wohoo
[03:15] <bigfoot1> it needs to be authenticated?
[03:15] <Seveas> bigfoot1, stop using backports/other non-offical repos :)
[03:15] <bigfoot1> Seveas,  i just ran the command you gave me.
[03:15] <chrissturm> i just had to enter my password into the nickserv password field :)
[03:16] <bigfoot1> isn't authentication just like those certificates that pop up when browsing the web?
[03:16] <Seveas> bigfoot1, if you use the official repositories, you will not get this error
[03:16] <bigfoot1> so are these 2 files absent from the official repo's?
[03:17] <Seveas> bigfoot1, no
[03:17] <delire> i doubt it
[03:17] <chrissturm> i have an ati 9700 with fglrx drivers, how can i use tv out? i would like to watch a movie on tvout while having my desktop on my primary monitor. is that possible?
[03:17] <bigfoot1> Seveas, do you use some sort of online bookmark manager? what do you recommend?
[03:17] <Seveas> i only use official repos and could find them :)
[03:17] <bigfoot1> have you heard of del.icio.us?
[03:17] <chrissturm> del.icio.us is great!
[03:17] <bigfoot1> could find what?
[03:17] <Seveas> bigfoot1, i use no online bookmark manager
[03:17] <bigfoot1> chrissturm, how do you import your firefox bookmarks into it?
[03:17] <delire> chrissturm: see the option "NoTV" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:17] <Seveas> i only use official repos and could find them :) <-- the 2 packages you asked about
[03:18] <bigfoot1> oh, so you did find them in the official repos. then why did i get the error?
[03:18] <delire> chrissturm: you might also want to consider backing up your xorg.conf and generating the file using fglrxconfig
[03:18] <delire> chrissturm: this process will supply you with an option to define TV out settings.
[03:18] <chrissturm> delire: and what player do i use then?
[03:18] <Seveas> bigfoot1, because you use non-official repositories...
[03:18] <bigfoot1> huh? really?
[03:18] <bigfoot1> I have the official ones on.
[03:19] <Seveas> bigfoot1, i cannot see another option...
[03:19] <bigfoot1> okay, let me check synaptic.
[03:19] <Seveas> bigfoot1, can you paste your sources.list on pastebin.kaarsemaker.net
[03:19] <delire> chrissturm: you mean video player? all should be fine.
[03:19] <bigfoot1> Seveas, how do i get the sources.list?
[03:19] <Seveas> bigfoot1, gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:20] <chrissturm> delire: thx
[03:20] <delire> chrissturm: np
[03:20] <bigfoot1> Seveas, http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/69
[03:21] <mz2> how do i make dmix work with polypaudio?
[03:21] <chrissturm> i think breezy is going to be a rocking release
[03:21] <mz2> seems to work fine with all apps that use the alsa interface
[03:21] <haller> mjr: gnome-session says "(gnome-session:7354): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:"
[03:21] <delire> chrissturm: sure looks to be, with the Summer of Code bounties.
[03:21] <CruNcher> Kpackage doesn't accepts my root password
[03:22] <delire> mz2: that's one for crimsun
[03:22] <Seveas> bigfoot1, your sources.list is f*ed up massively :)
[03:22] <delire> CruNcher: odd.
[03:22] <bigfoot1> what's wrong, Seveas ?
[03:22] <mjr> haller, you don't have the X display set correctly, possibly because ssh's X forwarding isn't enabled (ssh -X)
[03:22] <bigfoot1> Seveas, how do i fix it?
[03:22] <Seveas> bigfoot1, use the one at pastebin.kaarsemaker.net 38 and add the java repository to it
[03:22] <Seveas> ow and massively is overexxagerated :)
[03:23] <mz2> oh right, i think i got it now
[03:23] <CruNcher> yeah with kynaptic it works
[03:23] <reka> a little off-topic but: does sarge have the quirks hoary seems to have? (low default res, sound problems)
[03:23] <haller> mir: i am on a windows box here. is X forwarding an issue. or do i need x11 as a client for that?
[03:23] <CruNcher> but with kpackage it doesn't :(
[03:24] <Seveas> haller, you really should look into freenx
[03:24] <bigfoot1> seveas, okay, i've copied it. do i just paste it into the sources.list? erasing my current list?
[03:24] <CruNcher> bug ?
[03:24] <Seveas> bigfoot1, yes
[03:24] <Seveas> bigfoot1, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:24] <Seveas> otherwise you cannot save it :)
[03:24] <bigfoot1> Seveas, and how do i add the java repository, as you said?
[03:24] <Seveas> add this line: deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ hoary java
[03:25] <delire> CruNcher: i have no idea why that would happen.
[03:25] <CruNcher> it say su authentification failed
[03:25] <mjr> haller, you need an X server for your windows, and to enable X forwarding from your ssh client
[03:25] <CruNcher> Entschuldigung
[03:25] <CruNcher> lol
[03:25] <haller> ok
[03:25] <haller> thx
[03:25] <bigfoot1> Seveas, that's strange. another gedit window popped up. it didn't use my old window. but when i didn't have the sudo command (read-only), it used my old window.
[03:25] <CruNcher> aren't su and sudo different handled on ubuntu ?
[03:26] <nalioth_zZzZzZzZ> haller: why not use vnc?
[03:26] <Seveas> CruNcher, everywhere, not just on Ubuntu, simply because they are different :)
[03:26] <CruNcher> ok so thats the problem then
[03:26] <CruNcher> :D
[03:26] <bigfoot1> seveas, all right. all done.
[03:26] <Seveas> bigfoot1, nice
[03:26] <CruNcher> it should use sudo for ubuntu hehe
[03:26] <Seveas> now do apt-get update
[03:26] <delire> CruNcher: sudo is defined by the su in a file called /etc/sudoers
[03:26] <Seveas> and retry installing
[03:27] <haller> nalioth_zZzZzZzZ: i want to but cant start gnome / vino from ssh..
[03:27] <bigfoot1> seveas, can i delete the "source" repos?
[03:27] <chrissturm> is there a way to get automount to work with the breezy 2.6.12 kernel?
[03:27] <bigfoot1> Seveas,  I'm not a developer.
[03:27] <delire> s/"sudo is"/"sudo rules are"
[03:27] <nalioth> haller: really? hmm
[03:28] <haller> nalioth: or i dont know how to do it. do you?
[03:28] <delire> bigfoot1: it's no problem to comment out the sources repository
[03:28] <CruNcher> thx delire :)
[03:28] <nalioth> haller: i'm lookin
[03:28] <delire> CruNcher: had me worried ;)
[03:28] <nalioth> haller: you WILL need an xserver of some sort for x-forwarding
[03:28] <Seveas> bigfoot1, yes you can
[03:28] <delire> CruNcher: are you using KDE or Gnome there?
[03:28] <Seveas> but they don't hurt :)
[03:28] <CruNcher> KDE
[03:28] <bigfoot1> comment out? that's not the same as removing them in synaptic, is it?
[03:29] <delire> CruNcher: ahah, then you'll benefit with the integration anyway.
[03:29] <bigfoot1> Seveas, will i ever need the sources repos?
[03:29] <Seveas> bigfoot1, no you won't probably :)
[03:29] <delire> CruNcher: KDE has a very cool suite of integrated administration apps.
[03:29] <bigfoot1> do you need them?
[03:29] <nalioth> bigfoot1: anything in a text file with a # in front of the line, is called "commented out" and is ignored by the programs using that text file
[03:29] <nalioth> bigfoot1: i recommend you comment them out, because you might need them sometime
[03:30] <bigfoot1> nalioth, hello. nice to hear from you again. thank you for  "commenting in". in what kind of circumstances do you think one needs the source repos?
[03:30] <delire> bigfoot1: it's good to get into the habit of commenting out that which you don't need. leave yourself little commented notes (comments) also.
[03:30] <nalioth> bigfoot1: and in any case, they are not doing any harm in the txt file, since they are only used when you ask apt t0 build from source
[03:31] <bigfoot1> when is it necessary to build from source?
[03:31] <nalioth> bigfoot1: there are some binaries (esp on amd64 and ppc arches) not available. so on those platforms, building from deb-src archives gets you a 'home-rolled' ubuntu packaged binary
[03:32] <bigfoot1> nalioth, but if i'm on a x86, then the sources repos are useless?
[03:33] <delire> bigfoot1: barely necessary. having them in there will only slow down your apt-get update time, very slightly.
[03:33] <delire> bigfoot1: but there's no need to take those sources repos out of there altogether
[03:34] <nalioth> bigfoot1: they are probably not gonna be needed by an x86 user, but comment them out for insurance
[03:34] <nalioth> bigfoot1: even uncommented, as i said, they are not used unless you request a source build using apt
[03:35] <bigfoot1> okay.
[03:35] <bigfoot1> i'll put the pound sign in front of them.
[03:36] <ryan_> the default ubuntu can't play mp3?
[03:36] <nalioth> ryan_: www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[03:37] <delire> bigfoot1: is "the pound sign" the same as '#'
[03:37] <nalioth>  delire in the USA, yes
[03:37] <ryan_> thank you nalioth
[03:37] <bigfoot1> yes delire . 8-)
[03:38] <delire> nalioth: ahah, i know little about america :0
[03:38] <nalioth> delire: make one
[03:38] <bigfoot1> I didn't mean the currency symbol. 8-)
[03:38] <delire> nalioth: i have one. perhaps i should submit it.
[03:38] <nalioth> delire: yes, metapackages i would think are not so closely inspected (i mean, what are they but pointers to other pkgs, right?)
[03:39] <delire> nalioth: yes. i have made a few for debian, though am unfamiliar with the ubuntu process, where submission and maintenance is concerned.
[03:40] <delire> nalioth: eg if a package name changes, the metapackage must too. this is where 'maintenance' comes in..
[03:40] <nalioth> delire: you can go to the wiki and sign up to be a dev
[03:40] <nalioth> delire: and you can be the maintainer of the metapkg
[03:40] <delire> nalioth: mayhaps. i want to see where m.shuttleworth goes with breezy first.
[03:40] <delire> nalioth: tempting.
[03:41] <stevegriff> is there a site where I can search what packages are available for ubuntu users?
[03:41] <nalioth> delire: if you are a dev (no matter what sort) you have influence in the direction of breezy (and sinister squirrel, and rowdy rabbit, and so on)
[03:41] <nalioth> stevegriff: packages.ubuntu.com, i believe
[03:41] <stevegriff> thanks nagesh
[03:41] <bigfoot1> stevegriff, what about synaptic?
[03:41] <delire> nalioth: hehe you're joking, they are the forthcoming version names ?
[03:41] <pmjdebruijn> nalioth: meritocrasy?
[03:41] <stevegriff> nalioth even :D
[03:42] <nalioth> delire: i made them up
[03:42] <coulix> is there a fix for the totem error under ati driver ? i have to use mplayer :/
[03:42] <nalioth> pmjdebruijn: whatever works
[03:42] <delire> nalioth: you can go to the wiki and sign up to be a brand-imager ;)
[03:42] <stevegriff> ahhh cool apache2 is there
[03:42] <nalioth> delire: me in marketing?
[03:43] <stevegriff> I'm moving from Gentoo to ubuntu but with my desktop I need some server stuff
[03:43] <wijnand> is there a recommended method to resize a windows (ntfs) partition before installing ubuntu? i'm trying to set it up on a friends machine
[03:43] <delire> nalioth: "sinister squirrel" has an edge, you have to admit.
[03:43] <nalioth> delire: eats other distros nuts
[03:43] <delire> wijnand: do it from windows land AFAIK
[03:43] <delire> nalioth: there you have it. now go forth and market with ferocity.
[03:44] <nalioth> wijnand: use partition magic from windoze, or wipe the system and start clean
[03:44] <stevegriff> does Ubuntu ask you what file format you want your partitions formatted in?
[03:44] <coulix> yes
[03:44] <wijnand> nalioth: PM costs lots of money though, doesn't it?
[03:44] <nalioth> stevegriff: ext3 mostly
[03:44] <wijnand> nalioth: starting over is never a bad idea for windos though ;)
[03:44] <nalioth> wijnand: yes it is a commercial product
[03:44] <wijnand> stevegriff: yup
[03:45] <bigfoot1> is there a way i could remotely (and securely) connect to my home ubuntu PC from a Windows PC at work?
[03:45] <wijnand> stevegriff: ext3 by default but reiserfs and others are available
[03:45] <mjr> wijnand, the free way is "ntfsresize", dunno about reliability though
[03:45] <delire> wijnand: start over, or back up and take the risk (if you can't afford PM).
[03:45] <hornsby> wijnand, the partition manager from ubuntu worked great for me, resized a partition ntfs, moved data ...
[03:45] <nalioth> wijnand: please don't ask me what to do with windoze.. .. (i'll tell ya every time to wave bye-bye)
[03:45] <bigfoot1> i'd like to, for instance, browse my hard drive.
[03:45] <mjr> bigfoot1, ssh; install ssh server and putty for the windows box
[03:45] <nalioth> bigfoot1: vnc over ssh
[03:45] <mjr> (ssh server for the ubu box)
[03:45] <delire> wijnand: what do you use win32 for currently?
[03:45] <wijnand> nalioth: that's my normal strategy too :)
[03:45] <nalioth> wijnand: just keep in mind re hornsby that ntfs writing is still considered 'unstable' under linux
[03:46] <stevegriff> wijnand - thanks. I've used reiserfs for the last couple of years but I'm just wondering if there's better filesystems on the horizon
[03:46] <wijnand> delire: it's a friend who wants to migrate to linux in time... dualboot is the way to begin :)
[03:46] <wijnand> nalioth: yeah i know
[03:46] <hornsby> nalioth, true but it worked well for me few times
[03:46] <mjr> nalioth, ntfs writing and ntfs resizing are somewhat different things though
[03:46] <delire> wijnand: right..
[03:46] <thenuke> bigfoot1: ssh?
[03:47] <thenuke> bigfoot1: if you really cant live without the x-windows then use that VNC
[03:47] <nalioth> wijnand: then clean your friends HD, reinstall winduhs (using fat32 filessystem (for easier file sharing on the box)) and go from there
[03:47] <wijnand> yeah i suppose that's the easiest thing to do
[03:47] <thenuke> bigfoot1: but vnc might need much upload power from your connection
[03:47] <bigfoot1> so on the windows pc at work, i can browse thru my home ubuntu pc via the Network World (or something like that) icon on the windows desktop?
[03:47] <wijnand> i never make just one partition on any harddisk, just to make moving files around easier
[03:47] <nalioth> wijnand: i build/service/etc boxen, and i never install windoze on ntfs
[03:48] <ahal> howdy.. any iptables gurus here, i need to block *.prima.net.ar someone is messing with my server, how do i find out what iprange to block?
[03:48] <thenuke> bigfoot1: with 800x600x16 it took about 600Kb/sec
[03:48] <wijnand> ok well thanks everyone, i'll get to work on it :D
[03:48] <nalioth> bigfoot1: not so simple, (cuz windoze doesnt allow simplicity) but yes you can log in and browse from work
[03:48] <spiderworm> those dame argentines, always messing with other people's boxes
[03:48] <bigfoot1> oh i see, you mean that using VNC will make the remote computer act as if you are stantding in front of the faraway computer, right?
[03:49] <pfp> ahal: use 'whois i.p.add.ress' (not IRC /whois :)
[03:49] <nalioth> ahal: at a terminal type "host whatever.prima.net.ar" and you should get a dns number
[03:49] <delire> ahal: i'd use nslookup
[03:49] <nalioth> bigfoot1: yes
[03:49] <ahal> whois prima.net.ar
[03:49] <ahal> This TLD has no whois server, but you can access the whois database at
[03:49] <ahal> http://www.nic.ar/
[03:50] <jasoncohen> is there a list of packages not available in the amd64 port of hoary? I noticed that flashplayer and mplayer aren't
[03:50] <ahal> ill try that then :)
[03:50] <bigfoot1> ahal, how did you know that someone is messing with your server? what do you mean by "my server"? you running a website or something?
[03:50] <ahal> yepp webserver logs... upto 500M traffick a day
[03:51] <ahal> 500M should amount to the whole months traffick
[03:51] <bigfoot1> what was he doing then?
[03:51] <mindspin> ahal did you have a look at /var/log/auth.log ?
[03:51] <pfp> ahal: using the whois command w/ raw IP address might get you a usable IP range
[03:51] <bigfoot1> maybe he was doing some offline browsing by downloading your whole website, ahal ?
[03:51] <xam0x> How do I get DVD's to play with the latest release? I have libdvd installed but it's still complaining that I don't have Decryption support on xine, totem, etc.
[03:52] <bigfoot1> if not, why then would he get 500M from your server?
[03:52] <jasoncohen> xam0x, you have libdvdcss2 installed?
[03:52] <delire> xam0x libdvdcss
[03:52] <nalioth> bigfoot1: there are programs that monitor your network and can tell you if anyone is trying to access your box
[03:52] <ahal> repeated requests.. and i dont have a total of 500M stuff there
[03:52] <bigfoot1> by access, nalioth, do you mean "hacking"?
[03:52] <nalioth> xam0x: libdvdcss
[03:52] <xam0x> nope, thx
[03:52] <bigfoot1> is there anything wrong with accessing? don't we all access boxes when we go to any website?
[03:53] <islander> Does anybody knows where can I get Alienware themes for linux
[03:53] <nalioth> bigfoot1: yes i mean 'cracking'
[03:53] <xam0x> Where is a package for that
[03:53] <delire> ahal i use 'watch -d netstat -tupa'
[03:53] <bigfoot1> what is to crack?
[03:53] <bigfoot1> does ahal have some credit card numbers on his box or something?
[03:53] <nalioth> bigfoot1: nothing wrong with legitimate access, but probing for holes/older unpatched software, etc, is not cool
[03:53] <nalioth> xam0x: universe or multiverse
[03:53] <delire> bigfoot1: 'cracking' relates to the breaking or decoding of keys used in a digital security context.
[03:54] <bigfoot1> you mean someone can find out about your holes?
[03:54] <lessshaste> If you go to http://www.apple.com/itunes/store/ and click on one of today's top songs does it work for anybody here?
[03:54] <nalioth> bigfoot1: would you want your box to be operated by someone else?
[03:54] <ahal> bigfoot1: just some fucking recipes
[03:54] <bigfoot1> nalioth, no.
[03:54] <mindspin> check your server with nessus
[03:54] <islander> Hello, fellows, Does anybody knows where can I  get Alienware theme for linux ubuntu
[03:54] <nalioth> bigfoot1: these crackers are looking for unpatched windoze boxen to infect
[03:54] <lessshaste> I get "itms is not a registered protocol"
[03:54] <bigfoot1> ahal, why then would someone want to get those recipes? there are thousands of howto's on sexual intercourse on the net.
[03:55] <mindspin> install chkrootkit or something similiar to have a look wether your machine is "cracked"
[03:55] <bigfoot1> 8-)
[03:55] <nalioth> bigfoot1: and in ahals case, who knows what they're doing
[03:55] <bigfoot1> nalioth, but if ahal's box is ubuntu, it's safe, right?
[03:55] <delire> mindspin ahal i use 'tiger' to detect for rootkits and evidence of other exploits.
[03:55] <delire> bigfoot1: yes, very in the relative scheme of things.
[03:55] <ahal> bigfoot1: i dont care why, i just want to block them as they are clearly fucking with me
[03:56] <jasoncohen> does anyone here use the amd64 port?
[03:56] <optik> i fif.....
[03:56] <delire> ahal if you have a firewall just build a rule. i use shorewall for this.
[03:56] <nalioth> bigfoot1: a default install of ubuntu is considered 'safe', but we don't know what ahal has added/changed
[03:56] <stevegriff> ok, vmware - is there a ubuntu package for this or do I have to install it myself? there's no record of it on packages.ubuntu.com
[03:57] <bigfoot1> nalioth, what changes/additions would make ubuntu less safe?
[03:57] <nalioth> jasoncohen: no, but i might be able to help (don't know pkgs, tho)
[03:57] <mindspin> and what scripts are running, cgi-bin can be harmful
[03:57] <vie> hiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[03:57] <nalioth> ahal: i have a fix for you, give me a minute
[03:57] <optik> did*
[03:57] <optik> but not for long
[03:57] <optik> couldnt stand the lack of packages
[03:57] <ahal> i have my own firewall rules that are safe.. they keep hitting my webserver port 80, with repeated requests leeching my bandwidht
[03:57] <mindspin> inproper apache cconfiguration
[03:57] <mindspin> and the well known php holes
[03:57] <nalioth> bigfoot1: adding insecure pkgs, configuring secure pkgs in an insecure manner
[03:58] <ahal> maybe mod_rewrite could block *.some.net ?
[03:58] <mindspin> drop instead of reject limits traffic too
[03:58] <delire> yes
[03:58] <nalioth> ahal: here is a good article on what you are wantin to know
[03:58] <pfp> i'd block their ip range, doing a reverse dns on _all_ clients would be kinda expensive imo..
[03:58] <nalioth> ahal: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=130
[03:59] <jasoncohen> nalioth, i asked in #debian if the performance increase was worth it and i was told it was but it seems the amd64 ports are missing quite a few packages I use often. debian doesn't have OO ported yet, and ubuntu doesn't have mplayer
[03:59] <nalioth> jasoncohen: are you familiar with apt-gets capabilitys?
[03:59] <jasoncohen> yes
[03:59] <thenuke> jasoncohen: uff, if mplayer is not in ubuntus repos, it does not prevent you from adding some extra repos
[03:59] <mindspin> blocking complete ip-ranges can cost you a lot of customers if you running a site for business purposes
[03:59] <nalioth> jasoncohen: unfortunately, you (amd64) and I (ppc) are redheaded stepchildren
[04:00] <thenuke> jasoncohen: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#mplayer
[04:00] <nalioth> jasoncohen: mplayer does exist in the ubuntu source repos, and you can have apt build it for you
[04:00] <jasoncohen> yeah, apt-get build dep mplayer ; apt-get -b source mplayer
[04:00] <nalioth> jasoncohen: you will probably have to have apt build several pkgs (cuz binaries don't exist for amd64 and ppc)
[04:00] <nalioth> jasoncohen: you got it
[04:01] <nalioth> jasoncohen: have fun
[04:01] <delire> jasoncohen: apt-get build-dep*
[04:01] <jasoncohen> yeah, my mistake
[04:01] <delire> no biggie ;)
[04:01] <jasoncohen> was trying to fax something at the same time
[04:02] <nalioth> jasoncohen: we know you know what you're doing
[04:02] <nalioth> jasoncohen: but that is the deal, amd64/ppc binarys are not as available as binarys for x86
[04:02] <jasoncohen> i'm just worried that the packages won't build and that's the reason they're not available in the first place. for example, i know debian hasn't included OO because they've had some problems getting clean builds
[04:02] <bob2> wtf
[04:02] <nalioth> jasoncohen: but the pkg does exist in source form
[04:02] <bob2> OO doesn't even build on amd64 at all
[04:03] <delire> jasoncohen they aren't in the native repo's because they contain, or are, non-free software
[04:03] <nalioth> jasoncohen: not at all, i've had to build mplayer  here on my ppc box (along with other things like transcode)
[04:03] <jasoncohen> bob2, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin//search_packages.pl?version=all&subword=1&exact=&arch=any&releases=all&case=insensitive&keywords=openoffice&searchon=names
[04:03] <bob2> jasoncohen: yes, on amd64 it's a 32-bit binary
[04:03] <jasoncohen> ah, so not pure64
[04:03] <bob2> "pure64" is a silly term
[04:04] <jasoncohen> bob2, do you run the amd64 port of ubuntu? how does it compare performance wise to the i386 version?
[04:05] <jasoncohen> bob2, the debian port describes itself as pure64- so i imagine all their packages are 64 bit binaries?
[04:05] <bob2> no, I don't
[04:05] <bob2> "pure64" is still a silly term
[04:05] <delire> hehe
[04:07] <Choubaka> Hm.
[04:08] <bob2> jasoncohen: basically everything in ubuntu's amd64 port are amd64 binaries
[04:08] <Choubaka> Can't ubuntu autodetect my USB-mass storage digital camera?
[04:08] <bob2> I think OO is the only exception
[04:08] <xurra> hi all...
[04:08] <bob2> Choubaka: it can for thousands of other people
[04:08] <Choubaka> I thought it could, but it apparently isn't.
[04:08] <xurra> I need some help in adding a new printer
[04:08] <Choubaka> bob2: ok. So I need some help with making it work.
[04:08] <Choubaka> bob2: any ideas?
[04:09] <bob2> Choubaka: find out what isn't working
[04:09] <bob2> Choubaka: does dmesg notice it?  does syslog?
[04:09] <Choubaka> the mass storage device is detected, and is shown in dmesg, and is reported as sda
[04:09] <bob2> Choubaka: do other devices work?
[04:09] <bob2> is the card partitioned?
[04:09] <Choubaka> ls /dev/sda* returns "file not found"
[04:09] <Choubaka> yes.
[04:09] <Choubaka> to all of those.
[04:10] <toran> hey guys, do you know of any video players similar to kaffeine that I can use? The latest version of kaffeine is REALLY crashing a lot, and it's driving me nuts
[04:10] <Choubaka> though "other devices" means cdrom and floppy in this case, since I have no other usb peripherals.
[04:10] <Choubaka> Normally I wouldn't even care, because I mount these things manually.
[04:11] <Choubaka> but I'm setting ubuntu to do things automagically now, so my family can operate it on their own.
[04:11] <xurra> can anybody explain me how to add a new printer, please?
[04:11] <Choubaka> xurra: sudo gnome-cups-manager iirc.
[04:11] <bob2> Choubaka: so you have or have not tried other usb devices?
[04:11] <Choubaka> but it seems udev isn't even generating the device file.
[04:11] <Choubaka> bob2: no, since I don't have any.
[04:12] <bob2> xurra: system -> administration -> printers
[04:12] <Choubaka> bob2: but the USB _is_ working, since it's shown in dmesg :/
[04:12] <mhz> xurra, or, adduser cupsys shadow, so you can use http://localhost:631
[04:12] <xurra> i've tried in system>administration>printers, and everything went good, but the printer is not printing at all
[04:13] <Choubaka> Oh, damn, I need food. brb.
[04:13] <mrpull-> -
[04:13] <sky_> hi
[04:14] <GazaM> hi, anybody here have skype working?
[04:14] <Hajuu> Heya
[04:14] <qos> hmmm
[04:14] <sky_> I have skype but on my other computer
[04:15] <toran> hey guys, do you know of any video players similar to kaffeine that I can use? The latest version of kaffeine is REALLY crashing a lot, and it's driving me nuts
[04:15] <GazaM> I never recieved an email confirmation when I registered, did you?
[04:15] <sky_> Yeah I did
[04:15] <albacker> toran : mplayer, xine
[04:15] <GazaM> Toran, VLC is by far my favourite video player
[04:15] <bob2> toran: might be easier if you tell us what you want in a video player
[04:15] <toran> albacker: kaffeine is a frontend to xine
[04:15] <toran> I'm looking for a nice frontend with playlist support, etc.
[04:15] <lleberg_> GazaM, Admint it's only because of the logo ;)
[04:15] <toran> easy access to choosing subtitles/audio channel
[04:15] <lleberg_> ehum, admit*
[04:16] <lessshaste> how can you play this (free to download) music file? http://a1576.phobos.apple.com/Music/y2005/m03/d27/h20/s07.oscpmguv.p.m4p
[04:16] <Hajuu> I installed cedega the other day.. got warcraft 3 running perfectly under it out of the box... But now im trying to install something on a second drive (mounted under /mnt/storage/) but the installer picks up that the / is full and doesnt allow me to install...
[04:16] <GazaM> lol
[04:16] <Hajuu> How do I fix this?
[04:16] <Hajuu> can I go to that drive directly?
[04:16] <nalioth> lessshaste: you need libfaac
[04:16] <delire> lessshaste shouldn't that suffix be *.mp4
[04:17] <chrissturm> is there a plugin for firefox search that searches the ubuntu bugzilla?
[04:17] <nalioth> lessshaste: and probably gstreamer faac plugin
[04:17] <bob2> I don't even think there's a bugzilla plugin for usefully searching bugzilla
[04:18] <islander> Bob2: How are you, I hope that you are doing fine, I would like to know if you know where can I get an Alienware theme for my linux Ubuntu
[04:18] <lessshaste> nalioth, hmm... ok... You don't think I need some special apple stuff then
[04:18] <bob2> I have no idea what "alienware" is
[04:18] <delire> islander: isn't alienware a laptop (re)brand?
[04:18] <GazaM> Alienware is a high-end pc manufacturer
[04:18] <islander> yes
[04:18] <nalioth> lessshaste: libfaac and the plugin will play mp4 and aac files (but not encrypted ones)
[04:18] <GazaM> Enthusiast machines
[04:18] <bob2> don't they make ugly laptops?
[04:18] <lessshaste> delire, apparently not.... it is the itunes extension. Normally drm protected
[04:18] <islander> they have a nice cool modern theme
[04:18] <lessshaste> nalioth, well.. it is a preview so presumably not encryptedf
[04:18] <islander> www.alienware.com
[04:18] <Seveas> <shameless plug> #ubuntu pastebin :) http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ </shameless plug>
[04:18] <delire> GazaM: re-badged Sager notebooks actually ;)
[04:19] <GazaM> not only notebooks
[04:19] <GazaM> I prefer to make my own pc anyway
[04:19] <bob2> oh, awesome, flash on the frontpage
[04:19] <GazaM> I just know what they are, doesn't mean I like them
[04:19] <nalioth> lessshaste: well, that info will get you goin with aac and mp4 files
[04:19] <lessshaste> nalioth, yes but the fourcc is drms
[04:20] <martin_> what's up ppl
[04:20] <thenuke> martin_: sky and the roof,
[04:20] <nalioth> lessshaste: it will play unencrypted stuff, the encrtypted itms files, you'll need a mac
[04:20] <delire> lessshaste: i steer clear of Apple and their nasty ways, no idea how to get around their increasing support of DRM sorry.
[04:20] <martin_> ok... if you say so...
[04:21] <nalioth> delire: you dont?
[04:21] <GazaM> Anybody have a PCI-E ATI card?
[04:21] <martin_> gazam, i wish i had...
[04:21] <martin_> does that count
[04:21] <martin_> ?
[04:21] <delire> nalioth: short of doing what i did with a g4 tower, wipe it..
[04:21] <lessshaste> delire, hymn apparently.. but you need an ipod for that. I just want to listen to the preview :)
[04:21] <lessshaste> nalioth, does it work for you?
[04:22] <delire> lessshaste: right.. perhaps gtkpod people have a solution there.
[04:22] <GazaM> martin_, no you don't
[04:22] <GazaM> I'm finding it impossible to get 3d working
[04:22] <nalioth> lessshaste: i dont discuss those sorts of things in here
[04:22] <lessshaste> nalioth, It is free!
[04:22] <lessshaste> nalioth, I just want to play the preview :)
[04:22] <nalioth> lessshaste: i have some unDRMd mp4s and yes libfaac and gstreamer plugin faac works fine
[04:23] <lessshaste> nalioth, ok thx. gstreamer plugin for what?
[04:23] <nalioth> lessshaste: gstreamer faac plugin and libfaac
[04:23] <lessshaste> nalioth, sorry.. what is the media player?
[04:23] <lessshaste> nalioth, gstreamer?
[04:24] <lessshaste> (I use mplayer)
[04:24] <nalioth> lessshaste: use any media player, gstreamer is the backend of most of em
[04:24] <Choubaka> Hmm.
[04:24] <nalioth> lessshaste: i use rythmbox, and it works great
[04:24] <Choubaka> Good food.
[04:24] <Choubaka> Now, I wonder about that usb issue.
[04:24] <delire> Choubaka: what's up?
[04:26] <lessshaste> nalioth, ok.. working on getting rhythmbox to play it
[04:26] <qos> is there a german ubuntu channel?
[04:26] <lessshaste> nalioth, it doesn't play it for you or does it?
[04:26] <nalioth> qos: ubuntu-de
[04:26] <lessshaste> http://a1576.phobos.apple.com/Music/y2005/m03/d27/h20/s07.oscpmguv.p.m4p
[04:26] <chrissturm> qos: #ubuntu-de
[04:26] <nalioth> lessshaste: my  mp4s play fine (they have no DRM)
[04:26] <lessshaste> nalioth, this should have no drm
[04:26] <lessshaste> nalioth, unless the preview ones do in some weird way
[04:26] <nalioth> lessshaste: the m4p i believe is the drm'd file
[04:27] <mag> hi, any1 got .deb with mplayer for hoary ?
[04:27] <chrissturm> mag: i think its in multiverse
[04:27] <thenuke> mag: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#mplayer
[04:28] <lessshaste> nalioth, oh I see. so even though it is free it is still drm'ed ... hmmm
[04:29] <Choubaka> delire: Ah, mhm. Ubuntu is not autodetecting my usb mass storage device.
[04:29] <augmentor> hi all
[04:30] <Seveas> hi augmentor
[04:30] <mindspin> qos I only know #kubuntu-de
[04:30] <funky> hi
[04:30] <augmentor> I tried to install gkismet, and it can't seem to run when i execute me, can someone help me out?
[04:30] <bob2> just use kismet
[04:30] <GazaM> Does anyone know if the sound issues will *definitely* be fixed in breexy
[04:30] <GazaM> *breezy
[04:30] <bob2> define "sound issues
[04:30] <reka> augmentor: help execute you? sure.
[04:30] <bob2> dmix will probably be setup by default, yes
[04:31] <Choubaka> in breezy, the sound architecture will change completely. :P
[04:31] <augmentor> gkismet i mean :)
[04:31] <GazaM> The various sound issues everyone has with ubuntu.
[04:31] <Choubaka> which is good.
[04:31] <bob2> GazaM: there are multiple "issues"
[04:31] <GazaM> They using polypaudio?
[04:31] <bob2> GazaM: driver support can't be magically improved
[04:31] <mindspin> I had no sound issues
[04:31] <augmentor> can anyone help?
[04:31] <bob2> other things can
[04:31] <GazaM> bob2, I didn't say magically
[04:31] <bob2> augmentor: you need to be less vague when explaining your problem, or you just use kismet
[04:31] <augmentor> I tried isntalling it with the make install command and everything seemed to go fine
[04:31] <GazaM> I mean bad support for software mixing etc.
[04:32] <Choubaka> bob2: anyway, any ideas as to why udev is not creating a device file for the mass storage device?
[04:32] <augmentor> bob2, okay, i'll paste the output at pastebin.org
[04:32] <mag> hmm i'm not on this, what is multiverse ?!
[04:32] <bob2> GazaM: dmix will hopefully work by default n breezy
[04:32] <bob2> mag: unsupport, non-free software
[04:32] <GazaM> thank you
[04:32] <GazaM> Also...
[04:32] <mag> oh thx
[04:32] <chrissturm> the new clearlooks theme that appeared in breezy today is beautiful!
[04:32] <GazaM> even though I followed the guide to get sound working correctly, I can't use software which uses oss device
[04:33] <nalioth> g2g2 work
[04:33] <augmentor> bob2, is there anywhere else i can paste the output when i try to execute gkismet? pastebin.com is down it seems
[04:33] <zerokills> later nalioth
[04:33] <bob2> augmentor: #flood
[04:33] <Seveas> augmentor, paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:33] <augmentor> bob2, okay
[04:33] <Seveas> augmentor, rafb.net/paste
[04:33] <Seveas> there are more :)
[04:33] <bob2> #flood is so much less of a pain in the arse
[04:34] <Seveas> i'd say the opposite
[04:34] <bob2> augmentor: so, install the gnome perl module
[04:34] <Seveas> not everybody is in #flood
[04:34] <bob2> most of the people who answer questions are
[04:34] <Juhaz> there isn't one single advantage #flood has over web pastebins
[04:34] <augmentor> Seveas, thanks for the links
[04:34] <augmentor> bob2, oh okay
[04:34] <bob2> Juhaz: er, requiring one keystroke
[04:34] <bob2> augmentor: install libgnome-perl
[04:35] <Seveas> Juhaz, not having to fire up a browser :)
[04:35] <Juhaz> well... everyone always has a browser on the background :)
[04:35] <Seveas> Juhaz, not really
[04:36] <augmentor> bob2, downloading it, thanks
[04:36] <bob2> augmentor: np
[04:37] <bluefoxicy> wtf my sata isn't showing up
[04:37] <bluefoxicy> piece of shit
[04:41] <Choubaka> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/71 <- hmm?
[04:42] <GazaM> Has anybody here got an onboard Realtek AC97 sound card on an nforce motherboard, and 2 sound cards show up in the audio menu, one Realtek ALC, one nVidia CK804?
[04:43] <rg58sma> hi
[04:43] <GazaM> hi
[04:43] <rg58sma> someone knows how to knows what codecs remains in my avi file?
[04:44] <bob2> mplayer will tell you
[04:44] <rg58sma> yes
[04:44] <rg58sma> but is a amule file
[04:45] <rg58sma> too mplayer close automatly
[04:46] <bob2> I don't know what that means
[04:47] <bob2> Choubaka: how default is this machine?
[04:47] <ussss> how to Eject a CD-rom thru command line ?
[04:47] <bob2> the eject command
[04:47] <Choubaka> bob2: Somewhat old, but new enough. and basic harware. Anyway, seems like a udev restart created the device files.
[04:47] <ussss> yeah
[04:47] <ussss> it is mounted to /media/cdrom0
[04:48] <Choubaka> I think this is weird, since udev should create them automatically :/
[04:48] <Laverne> rg58sma, try "file bla.avi" that will tell you the file type
[04:48] <ussss> i guess, theres an Eject command in linux...
[04:49] <rg58sma> Mr.and Mrs.Smith.avi: RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 544 x 288, 25.00 fps, vide o: DivX 4, audio: MPEG-1 Layer 3 (stereo, 48000 Hz)
[04:49] <rg58sma> that is the result
[04:49] <mindspin> uss umount /media/cdrom0
[04:49] <mindspin> eject
[04:49] <Laverne> rg58sma, looks like it uses a divx codec
[04:50] <ussss> ok
[04:50] <ussss> uss ?
[04:50] <rg58sma> ok
[04:50] <rayde> quick question... if i don't have a /usr/src/linux directory, does that mean i don't have the kernel sources installed?
[04:50] <mindspin> ussss
[04:50] <ussss> awz...
[04:50] <ussss> ic
[04:50] <mindspin> just to address you
[04:50] <ussss> yeah... i think it was also a command
[04:50] <mindspin> hah
[04:50] <mindspin> sorry
[04:51] <ussss> umount: /media/cdrom0 is not mounted (according to mtab)
[04:51] <ussss> ?
[04:51] <mindspin> so try simply "eject"
[04:51] <ussss> eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument
[04:52] <mindspin> funny
[04:52] <mindspin> eject
[04:52] <mindspin> sorry
[04:52] <ussss> lol, not funny to me, coz im starting linux now...
[04:52] <mindspin> its working pretty fine here
[04:52] <ussss> if it fails, i will reinstall it w/ Windows XP
[04:53] <mindspin> its your choice
[04:53] <justin> ussss: what does mount actually say about your cdrom?
[04:53] <ussss> lol
[04:53] <ussss> eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument
[04:53] <BurgerMann> Who knows ImageMagick?
[04:54] <justin> ussss: chance #2 what does mount actually say about your cdrom?
[04:54] <ussss> before i can open the CD rom thru button. when i insert a cd and try to eject it... it wont open now
[04:54] <justin> ussss: chance #3 what does mount actually say about your cdrom?
[04:54] <mindspin> hahaha
[04:55] <ussss> no display
[04:55] <justin> ussss: use full sentences
[04:56] <ussss> pnpa@pnpaserver:/$ mount /media/cdrom0
[04:56] <ussss> pnpa@pnpaserver:/$
[04:56] <ussss> thats it
[04:56] <justin> for fucks sake
[04:56] <ussss> no msg/display
[04:56] <bob2> ussss: no, he means "What does the 'mount' command say about that device?"
[04:56] <bob2> ussss: the command you just ran ensures you can never eject the disk
[04:56] <bob2> c
[04:56] <ussss> what hes talking about ???
[04:57] <bob2> dude
[04:57] <ussss> thats it, no msg/display...
[04:57] <mindspin> now you have to retype the one with umount at the beginning
[04:57] <ussss> what the hell he talking about ?
[04:57] <bob2> ussss: what's your native language?
[04:57] <BurgerMann> Doen't anyone know ImageMagick?
[04:57] <ussss> thai
[04:57] <justin> !tell BurgerMann about polls
[04:57] <egabert> hi all
[04:57] <mindspin> BurgerMan I know ImageMagick
[04:57] <bob2> BurgerMann: why don't you just ask your question?
[04:57] <justin> grr
[04:57] <visor> people, you _cant_ eject the CD/DVD drive with the eject button on it until you deactivate automatic mounting in the gnome properties...
[04:57] <bob2> BurgerMann: lots of people have used it.
[04:57] <bob2> justin: dude, no
[04:57] <bob2> visor: yes, you can
[04:58] <bob2> visor: you just have to unmount it
[04:58] <bob2> ussss: so, run the "mount" command.  does it mention /media/cdrom?
[04:58] <visor> bob2: that doesnt make any sense, i mean in the way windows does
[04:58] <justin> bob2: right clicking the cdrom and picking 'eject' probably works too...
[04:58] <egabert> hi i have a problem how do i install ati drivers for radeon 9600?
[04:58] <bob2> visor: yes, indeed, linux is not like windows
[04:58] <BurgerMann> oh hi Mindspin, u told me about it before :)).. Since I have several pictures to scale, how do I make it scale all images in the directory
[04:58] <bob2> egabert: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:58] <BurgerMann> bob2, cuz I didn't :)
[04:58] <visor> bob2: i know what im saying is that this is an issue that is well known
[04:59] <ussss> sorry for that...... :(
[04:59] <egabert> thx @ bob but i already tried it so
[04:59] <justin> BurgerMann: man mogrify, read the examples at the top
[04:59] <ussss> i was exposed to windows....
[04:59] <bob2> BurgerMann: for i in * ; do convert -scale 800x600 $i $i.thumbnail ; done
[04:59] <bob2> visor: yes, it's well known
[04:59] <egabert> and it doesnt work xterm crashes after the configuration
[04:59] <BurgerMann> bob2, kewlz :)
[05:00] <mindspin> BurgerMan sorry, i dunno, I only use it as part of a web applikation, but a visit at the imagemagick homepage could help
[05:00] <bob2> egabert: er, try again then
[05:00] <bob2> egabert: and then come back and explain exactly what happens
[05:00] <visor> if you dont believe me ask James Henstridge and why he wrote an applet for ubuntu to unmount the CD/DVD ;)
[05:00] <bob2> yes, I know
[05:00] <bob2> (I work with james)
[05:00] <ussss> :)
[05:00] <visor> :O
[05:00] <ussss> lol
[05:00] <Choubaka> :/
[05:01] <bob2> Choubaka: ?
[05:01] <Choubaka> it's still not automounting the camera
[05:01] <egabert> i already tried it 3 times ubuntu said nothing only that the xterm dont work anylonger
[05:01] <visor> i didnt know :P
[05:01] <ussss> is anybody hungry ? :P
[05:01] <tombs> hi ppl
[05:01] <bob2> egabert: you're being too vague
[05:01] <bob2> egabert: what happens when you try to run xterm from a terminal? what error do you get?
[05:01] <Choubaka> even though I added the user to plugdev and udev creates the device now
[05:01] <bob2> egabert: did you REALLY follow the instructions?
[05:01] <Choubaka> Do I need to inform gnome about the usb drive somehow?
[05:01] <egabert> yes exactly
[05:01] <bob2> Choubaka: system -> preferences -> removable media
[05:02] <Choubaka> and?
[05:02] <bob2> and read it and make sure the settings are ok
[05:02] <Choubaka> they seem to be
[05:02] <mhz> How can I know which group is running php???
[05:02] <Choubaka> they're the defaults.
[05:02] <bob2> mhz: ps aux
[05:02] <mhz> (i'd assume it's www-data)
[05:02] <egabert> ok ok i try it once amore x)
[05:02] <visor> and so, is this really hard? i mean to catch the kernel signal when the eject button is pressed and in some way communicate this to HAL/D-Bus to unalocate any use of the drive and so it can be ejected?
[05:03] <bob2> ussss: dude
[05:03] <bob2> ussss: unmount it
[05:03] <bob2> ussss: right click on the icon on the desktop.
[05:03] <ussss> i tried already
[05:03] <bob2> ussss: not hard enough, it seems
[05:03] <Choubaka> nope.
[05:03] <Choubaka> it's not automounting :/
[05:03] <mindspin> ;-)
[05:03] <bob2> ussss: and you're not explaining what isn't working, either
[05:03] <egabert> but i have a question does it work good with this version to install it i want to play quake 3 ??
[05:03] <ussss> eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument
[05:03] <bob2> visor: you can't umount devices which programs are using
[05:03] <bob2> ussss: with sudo?
[05:04] <mhz> bob2, nop, ps ax |grep -i php
[05:04] <mhz>  outputs nothing
[05:04] <ussss> checking...
[05:04] <zerokills> reboot your system, that will unmount it
[05:04] <ussss> not yet...
[05:04] <bob2> mhz: er, presumably you're running it as a module inside apache
[05:04] <mhz> ussss, also, if you use ps ax to see how many process are using your device... then kill em all.
[05:04] <visor> bob2: and why when i call the eject function on nautilus it automatically closes the windows which has the drive content?
[05:05] <mhz> bob2, if so, then it is www-data
[05:05] <ussss> umount: /media/cdrom0: not mounted
[05:05] <mhz> hno73, hey!
[05:05] <egabert> bob how do you speak to me private?
[05:05] <bob2> visor: and when I'm using emacs to access a file on the disk?
[05:05] <bob2> mhz: yes
[05:05] <bob2> egabert: please don't /msg me
[05:05] <egabert> y?
[05:05] <bob2> because it's silly
[05:05] <bob2> ask your questions in here
[05:06] <justin> umount has a nice -l(azy) option for that
[05:06] <mhz> egabert, usually, you type /query the_user_name
[05:06] <Choubaka> hm :/
[05:06] <Choubaka> bob2: any more ideas?
[05:06] <ussss> bob2, theres 9 processes using ps as
[05:06] <visor> bob2: your are very right on that i know, its just that this is suppossed to be a friendly desktop OS
[05:06] <ussss> do i have to kill them all
[05:06] <ussss> ?
[05:06] <bob2> visor: I don't think it's a huge deal
[05:06] <mhz> yes
[05:06] <visor> and if i push the eject button i assume and expect to eject it
[05:06] <bob2> visor: and it requires breaking the kernel to change it
[05:06] <visor> bob2: me neither ;) im just commenting on it
[05:06] <bob2> ussss: no
[05:07] <ussss> what i will do with this ps as
[05:07] <bob2> ussss: what does "sudo umount /media/cdrom0" print out?
[05:07] <bob2> ussss: ignore ps
[05:07] <VRH> ussss, umount /dev/hdc
[05:07] <visor> plus its not like i have the skills to do something about it thats why im asking
[05:07] <ussss> umount: /media/cdrom0: not mounted
[05:07] <ussss> hdc, i guess its not a cdrom...
[05:07] <ussss> HD - Hardisk
[05:07] <Davey> visor: I use the Gnome Panel Applet for mounting :)
[05:07] <visor> ussss: what are you trying to do? eject the drive?
[05:07] <ussss> thats what i guess
[05:07] <VRH> ussss, but is linked
[05:07] <Davey> ussss: quite often the CD drives are seen as harddrives :)
[05:08] <ussss> visor, YEAH
[05:08] <Davey> hd* == IDE device, really :)
[05:08] <mhz> ussss, what does cat /etc/fstab say?
[05:08] <ussss> ok
[05:08] <ussss> i try
[05:08] <visor> ussss: "lsof | grep /media/cdrom*"  <- try this on the terminal and see what throws
[05:08] <ussss> umount: /dev/hdc is not mounted (according to mtab)
[05:08] <mhz> ussss, it all depends on the order the IDE devices are placed
[05:09] <VRH> yes
[05:09] <ussss> visor, blank ?
[05:09] <ussss> i mean blank
[05:09] <VRH> it can be hdX
[05:09] <ussss> no msg
[05:09] <visor> ussss: ok, then do a "sudo /sbin/eject"
[05:10] <mhz> ussss, for instance: 1st master is hda, 1st slave is hdb, 2nd master is hdc, 2nd slave is hdd
[05:10] <ussss> sudo: /sbin/eject: command not found
[05:10] <chrissturm> /usr/bin/eject
[05:10] <mhz> ussss, whereis eject
[05:10] <chrissturm> so just sudo eject should work
[05:10] <mindspin> or locate eject
[05:10] <ussss> thats what visor said
[05:11] <mhz> ussss, lso man eject
[05:11] <mhz> also
[05:11] <visor> if that does not work neither then do a "sudo tail -F /var/log/messages" and try again to umount then it must show some debug info
[05:11] <mhz> ussss, is man eject says nothing, then no eject installed :)
[05:11] <visor> ohh i lost that it was /usr/bin/eject
[05:12] <mhz> ussss, OR you can always use a good clip :)
[05:12] <chrissturm> visor: /usr/bin and /sbin are both in the path
[05:12] <ussss> lol
[05:12] <visor> and finally you can just reboot
[05:12] <ussss> u also said Ubuntu doesnt have eject
[05:12] <visor> chrissturm: i know, i just want to let him know
[05:13] <visor> well gotta go, talk to u later folks
[05:14] <VRH> ussss,  ls -al /dev/ | grep cdrom
[05:14] <justin> VRH: what is that going to do?
[05:14] <mhz> ussss, what does your /etc/fstab say?
[05:14] <VRH> the line for the linked
[05:14] <ussss> yehey! it ejects now
[05:14] <mhz> ussss, you should see a lin elike /dev/hdc /cdrom
[05:14] <ussss> pnpa@pnpaserver:/$ sudo /usr/bin/eject <--- using that command
[05:14] <VRH> fe: lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root           3 2005-06-13 17:00 cdrom -> hdc
[05:15] <justin> 'sudo /usr/bin/eject' is the same thing as 'sudo eject'
[05:15] <ussss> you're greate visor
[05:15] <ussss> :D
[05:15] <GNULinuxer> how do I enable UserDir in apache2 ? It says UserDir is now a module and uncommenting the options doesn't seem to work
[05:15] <toxicaway> whats the binary in ubuntu that can play sound even from the console? "play" doesn't exist right?
[05:16] <bob2> toxicaway: it does if you install sox
[05:16] <bob2> GNULinuxer: it works by default
[05:16] <Choubaka> hm
[05:16] <Choubaka> the gphoto2 database does not seem to contain my camera model.
[05:17] <GNULinuxer> bob2, it's raising an Internal Server Error ...
[05:17] <bob2> GNULinuxer: what is?
[05:17] <bob2> Choubaka: oh, your camera doesn't do usb-storage?
[05:18] <Choubaka> it does.
[05:18] <GNULinuxer> bob2, If I try to access ~/usename dir
[05:18] <bob2> Choubaka: if it doesn't, it's not supposed to automount (since the kernel doesn't know squat)
[05:18] <bob2> GNULinuxer: that's broken, but the url should http://foo/~username/
[05:18] <Choubaka> the kernel does know about it
[05:18] <Choubaka> it's still not automounting though.
[05:18] <bob2> no
[05:18] <bob2> the kernel knows about all usb devices that get plugged in
[05:18] <GNULinuxer> bob2, I know that I meant http://ip.addr/~username/  of course
[05:18] <bob2> it may not have any idea how to mount it, tho
[05:19] <bob2> which is the case for non-usb-storage cameras
[05:19] <Choubaka> bob2: this is a usb-storage camera.
[05:19] <bob2> Choubaka: you're sure?
[05:19] <Choubaka> I've never used gphoto2 to access it.
[05:19] <Choubaka> I just wondered if it had any relevance :P
[05:19] <justin> GNULinuxer: read the error log then
[05:19] <egabert> hi so whats the next  step?
[05:19] <egabert> root@FUCKUP:/home/egabert # lsmod | grep "_agp"
[05:19] <egabert> sis_agp                 8068  1
[05:19] <egabert> agpgart                31784  1 sis_agp
[05:19] <stazz> There is something wrong with my networking, every time dhclient trys a renewal, the connection goes down, I think it's related to sit0, can anyone tell me how to get rid of it?
[05:20] <bob2> Choubaka: so it has worked before?
[05:20] <bob2> stazz: it's not related to sit0
[05:20] <Choubaka> never with automounting
[05:20] <stazz> bob2: ok, I'm all ears
[05:20] <Choubaka> but I can mount it with a mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mountpoint
[05:20] <bob2> Choubaka: so it creates the device node, and you can 'sudo mount ...' it fine?
[05:20] <bob2> ah
[05:20] <egabert> please i need help i think it takes a second from youre time
[05:20] <egabert> root@FUCKUP:/home/egabert # lsmod | grep "_agp"
[05:20] <egabert> sis_agp                 8068  1
[05:20] <egabert> agpgart                31784  1 sis_agp
[05:21] <ussss> how do i kill a Wine-Systray ?
[05:21] <rk4n> hi2all
[05:21] <bob2> egabert: please stop it
[05:21] <Choubaka> So now I'm wondering how to make it automount.
[05:22] <Choubaka> or, well, making gnome see it when it's plugged in would be nice, too
[05:22] <bob2> Choubaka: if you run "dbus-monitor" and plug it in, do you get an event?
[05:22] <bob2> egabert: please don't /msg me
[05:22] <egabert> i only wanted a simple help thanks x(
[05:22] <bob2> egabert: you haven't given enough information for anyone to help you, and your attitude isn't very enticing
[05:22] <Choubaka> hmm
[05:23] <GNULinuxer> bob2, I had a malformed .htaccess ... now it's working ...
[05:23] <bob2> hah
[05:23] <stazz> bob2: you wouldn't happen to know why it disconnects on ip renewal?
[05:23] <egabert> @ bob sorry but i thought you could help me quickly so i followed the steps on the page and thats my result
[05:23] <GNULinuxer> bob2, BTW, when did you migrate to Ubuntu from Debian?
[05:23] <bob2> stazz: I don't know what you mean by "disconnect"
[05:24] <Sepheebear> hey guys is there any way to get video out of video/x-ms-asf into avi or something I can put on a dvd?
[05:24] <ussss> thanks to Ubuntu, i can run my existing mIRC.exe bot
[05:24] <stazz> bob2: well, the internet connection dies for several minutes when dhclient starts renewing
[05:24] <bob2> GNULinuxer: I started using ubuntu in may or so last year, but I still use both
[05:24] <bob2> stazz: well, yes, you won't be able to use it while dhclient does it's thing
[05:24] <yaaar_work> word
[05:24] <bob2> stazz: it shouldn't take more than 30s or so, tho
[05:24] <bob2> egabert: that's not your result
[05:24] <bob2> egabert: presumably somthing isn't working, why don't you tell us what?
[05:24] <GNULinuxer> bob2, you may not remember me, but we used to know each other sometime back on #Debian
[05:24] <stazz> bob2: I am very confident this isn't normal behaviour
[05:25] <bob2> GNULinuxer: yeah, I do
[05:25] <Choubaka> bob2: doesn
[05:25] <Choubaka> doesn't seem so.
[05:25] <bob2> Choubaka: that's odd
[05:25] <bob2> well, let me check I get anything, first
[05:25] <egabert> i already done it but nothing had changed so in the howto is written that you could tell me the next step with this informations
[05:26] <Choubaka> wtf.
[05:26] <bob2> egabert: dude
[05:26] <Choubaka> there was a "import photos" dialog on the screen now.
[05:26] <bob2> egabert: all we know is what you tell us
[05:26] <bob2> egabert: and you haven't even explained what isn't working yet
[05:26] <Choubaka> but it doesn't reappear if I unplug and replug
[05:26] <bob2> there's nothing any one can do to help you
[05:27] <GNULinuxer> bob2, I shifted to Ubuntu a couple of days back ... which repos contain unstable packages like PHP5 ?
[05:27] <bob2> GNULinuxer: none, afaik
[05:27] <GNULinuxer> bob2, why?
[05:27] <seth_k> GNULinuxer, PHP5 is super duper experimental. It's not even in Debian yet
[05:28] <bob2> GNULinuxer: because no one has made useful php5 packages yet, aiui
[05:28] <egabert> i will post it
[05:28] <seth_k> GNULinuxer, there's a tutorial on the wiki to build it from source
[05:28] <Davey> seth_k: ROFL... thats too funny
[05:28] <Davey> Debian is so behind the times for PHP its not funny.
[05:28] <bob2> oh lordy
[05:28] <egabert> 1. das AGP-Modul fr den Speichercontroller. Zu finden mit
[05:28] <egabert> lsmod | grep "_agp"
[05:29] <bob2> egabert: this is an english channel
[05:29] <Davey> PHP 5 is production ready, 5.0.4 especially.
[05:29] <Davey> GNULinuxer: compile PHP from scratch
[05:29] <Davey> Amaranth: !
[05:29] <mindspin> Davey this is arguable
[05:29] <GNULinuxer> Davey, okay
[05:29] <Amaranth> hey
[05:29] <bob2> anyway, #php-silliness
[05:29] <egabert> ok how do i change in a german channel?
[05:29] <Amaranth> egabert: /join #ubuntu-de
[05:29] <Davey> mindspin: I'd wager I'm more qualified to decide though ;)
[05:29] <bob2> egabert: #ubuntu.de or -de
[05:30] <mindspin> I only know #kubuntu-de
[05:30] <egabert> thx
[05:30] <Davey> GNULinuxer: http://davey.is-a-geek.com/info thats what I use :)
[05:30] <Davey> GNULinuxer: though it requires a number of packages, just ./configure and apt-get install necessary packages till it finishes successfully :)
[05:30] <stazz> And the dhclient seems to remove the address from the loopback device too!
[05:30] <bob2> stazz: how are you running it?
[05:30] <GNULinuxer> Davey, fine
[05:30] <bob2> stazz: "dhclient" by itself does very unpelasent things
[05:30] <stazz> bob2: the very default
[05:31] <bob2> stazz: so, don't run that
[05:31] <bob2> stazz: "sudo dhclient eth1" or whatever
[05:32] <mindspin> Davey I do not want to discuss php here
[05:32] <dennis_> Hi, I am a newbie to linux. Could someone give me a pointer to a good walkthrough how to install/switch between different fonts? I am using FireFox and would like to be able to type in russian. I tried searching ubuntu forums and google but no luck.
[05:33] <mindspin> isn't there a language pack for russian on the firefox site?
[05:33] <Davey> mindframe: thats fine, I'm working ;)
[05:34] <dennis_> I will take a look
[05:34] <mindspin> Davey you are not alone ;-)
[05:34] <Deffy> Hi, I successfully installed ubuntu and I went to install my wifi drivers, but hitting a snag
[05:35] <Deffy> I don't ever recall being asked to set a root password
[05:35] <dennis_> but is it firefox problem? What if I want to use russian in OpenOffice. Will I have to download additional packs?
[05:35] <bob2> Deffy: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[05:35] <bob2> Deffy: it explaiend this during the install
[05:35] <dennis_> Deffy: sudo passwd root
[05:35] <ninwa> Does the base Ubuntu install have DRI support? Where do I begin to configure my card to use it? I checked the Wiki and there's no information on it, and I checked the DRI site but their information is on how to rebuild X.org with DRI support and I want to reserve that until I'm sure I have to.
[05:36] <Deffy> thanks
[05:36] <mjr> ninwa, it does; what's your card?
[05:36] <ninwa> S3 Savage IX
[05:36] <ninwa> I checked the list, it's supported.
[05:36] <mjr> well, dunno about that
[05:36] <bob2> ouch, savage
[05:36] <bob2> it's probably not worth spending too much time on DRI for it
[05:37] <ninwa> http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/S3Savage?action=highlight&value=CategoryHardware
[05:37] <ninwa> Why? I want OpenGL support.
[05:37] <bob2> you have software opengl
[05:38] <Choubaka> Hm
[05:38] <Choubaka> No, dbus does not generate anything :/
[05:38] <Choubaka> it seems to almost work if I manually do /etc/init.d/dbus-1 restart
[05:39] <Choubaka> but even then not always
[05:39] <ninwa> It must not be functioning properly then because when I attempt to play a game called StepMania it reports that "Your system is reporting that direct rendering is not available.  Please obtain an updated driver from your video card manufacturer."
[05:39] <ninwa> I wish the error was a little more specific, but that's what I get.
[05:40] <Efwis> whats the command in terminal to remove an installed component?
[05:40] <mjr> apt-get remove
[05:40] <Choubaka> bob2: dbus-monitor gives me this when I start it, but nothing else: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/72
[05:40] <Efwis> ty
[05:40] <ninwa> Anyone have any direction they can point me in?
[05:41] <bob2> ninwa: try asking on the mailing list
[05:41] <bob2> Choubaka: odd
[05:41] <Choubaka> bob2: indeed :/
[05:42] <ninwa> Alright, thank you, I'll see if I can go to the developers of the game for support. I had assumed it was an issue with my setup, I still presume it is but thanks again.
[05:43] <anacron> hello
[05:43] <bob2> Choubaka: time to file a bug, I guess
[05:43] <anacron> how can i watch windows media with linux, or can i?
[05:44] <bob2> anacron: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:45] <anacron> bob2: how is that going to help me?
[05:45] <anacron> if i need a codec
[05:45] <bob2> er
[05:45] <Amaranth> anacron: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:45] <bob2> wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:46] <anacron> ok, looks better now :) tnx
[05:47] <wulfepup> hey hi all
[05:47] <ternary_digit> Hi everyone... Is possible to use KDE in ubuntu ?
[05:47] <wulfepup> ternary_digit: yup...
[05:47] <bob2> ternary_digit: sure, install the kubuntu-desktop package
[05:49] <Tatster> Hi - I have a question....
[05:49] <Invis> lol
[05:49] <ternary_digit> but can i alternate between gnome and kde?
[05:49] <Tatster> Is there a way to use Windows GPO settings when using Ubuntu (Samba) as a PDC
[05:50] <Choubaka> hmm
[05:50] <f> Mit wehm Chate ich?
[05:50] <Choubaka> It does detect and mount the camera _if_ and when I manually restart dbus
[05:50] <f> sprichst du Deutsch?
[05:51] <wulfepup> f: please English only .. and you are chatting with an entire room of people.
[05:51] <jind_> ternary_digit, sure. Just install and the graphcical login program will let you choose to start whatever you choose
[05:51] <jind_> I have kde, gnome and xfce4 installed here. Works great
[05:51] <ternary_digit> fine!
[05:51] <f> Tu parles francais?
[05:51] <pedro_> f: hablas espaol  ?
[05:52] <pedro_> same thing, speak english please
[05:52] <yaaar_work> f; un peu
[05:52] <ternary_digit> should i use apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?
[05:52] <f> No
[05:52] <bob2> ternary_digit: use aptitude
[05:52] <ternary_digit> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?
[05:52] <wulfepup> ternary_digit: aptitude or synaptic.
[05:52] <ternary_digit> ok
[05:52] <f> sPRICHT HIER JEMAND dEUTSCH
[05:52] <mag> apt-get will work
[05:52] <mag> flawlessly
[05:52] <ternary_digit> thanks everyone... i will try it!!!
[05:53] <jind_> "apt-get update && apt-get install kde" works great
[05:53] <jind_> Synaptic is just a frontend
[05:53] <f> Tu parles almond?
[05:53] <f> Hello
[05:53] <f> hello
[05:54] <bob2> f: please stop it, or leave
[05:54] <f> seid ihr zfrieden mit ubuntu?
[05:54] <wulfepup> jind_: true enough but aptitude and synaptic are easier to use, just in case one isn't sure of the exact name...
[05:55] <pedro_> is my idead or the X is fucked up on breezy ?
[05:55] <pedro_> s/idea/idead
[05:56] <ivoks> pedro_: nothing is fcked up
[05:56] <goye2cz> the glutton for punishment is back again tryin to install the us122. I'm stuck trying to find an RPM. I'm running into broken links and am wondering if anyone knows of an alternative? http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/1419735/com/alsa-firmware-1.0.6-1.cvs.rhfc2.ccrma.i386.rpm.html
[05:56] <ivoks> pedro_: it's under development
[05:56] <jind_> wulfepup, sure. But still not a valid argument to use aptitude/synaptic over apt-get. No techical reason ;)
[05:56] <ivoks> pedro_: smart people assume development things aren't much usable :)
[05:56] <bob2> pedro_: lots of things are broken in breezy
[05:56] <f> wadysase
[05:56] <bob2> pedro_: if you want a working system, don't use it
[05:56] <pedro_> ivoks: well is broken :-)
[05:56] <pedro_> i have a lot of packages installed that are under development
[05:57] <pedro_> and they arent broken
[05:57] <pedro_> so..
[05:57] <wulfepup> Anywho ... time for my n00b question: If I needed to add "setpci -s 0:a.0 SUBORDINATE_BUS=0x0A" to my /etc/init.d/pcmcia where in the code would it go?
[05:57] <pedro_> im just asking :-)
[05:57] <Funraiser> yesterday i asked here if this http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/productdetails.aspx?pid=036 existed on linux, well it does and it's here http://linuxbiometrics.com/modules/news/
[05:57] <bob2> pedro_: yes, it is known that X is broken
[05:57] <bob2> pedro_: the fix is in th BTS; if you want a reliable system, do not use breezy
[05:57] <tandy> anyone know how I can limit download/upload speeds for differnt users on same box
[05:57] <seth_k> although pedro_, there is a fix for the X problem on the forums if you really wish to pursue it
[05:58] <pedro_> bob2: yeah but i want to use the gnome development releases
[05:58] <pedro_> just for development
[05:58] <pedro_> so i guess im going to upgrade only that packages
[05:58] <pedro_> thanks bob2
[05:58] <jind_> I personally find apt-cache / apt-get easier and faster to use then their graphical counterparts :)
[05:58] <Choubaka> :((
[05:58] <Choubaka> This just isn't working.
[05:59] <jind_> Actually, I had forgotten they even existed
[05:59] <jind_> Does anybody know when xorg 6.9 is coming?
[05:59] <wulfepup> jind_: being new to Linux in general, I like using them to see what is available for easy dl and install...
[06:00] <tandy> is there a way to throttle bandwidth for differnt users
[06:00] <jind_> wulfepup, chances are you will learn to appreciate the console tools for such things quite fast. But, sure - graphical tools are easy to use
[06:01] <tandy> when i have someonel oggedo n and they downlaod something they use all the bandwidth
[06:01] <ivoks> tandy: sure there is
[06:01] <bob2> tandy: trickle
[06:01] <ivoks> but, AFAIK, there is no GUI tool for that
[06:02] <Tatster> exit
[06:02] <tandy> bob2 trickle?
[06:02] <bob2> tandy: yes
[06:02] <ivoks> hm... trickle :)
[06:02] <bob2> if you have hostile users, tho, kill them
[06:02] <tandy> im just talkign about regular users
[06:02] <zzorn_away> Hi, is there some official packages of SUNs Java JDKs for Ubuntu?
[06:02] <bob2> no
[06:02] <ivoks> zzorn: no
[06:02] <zzorn> okay
[06:02] <bob2> no one has official packages of Sun's JDK
[06:02] <bob2> because sun's license sucks
[06:02] <ivoks> like for any other platform, you have to download sun't package
[06:03] <tandy> bob: tricle banwidth shaper?
[06:03] <zzorn> I guess they can still be manually installed pretty easily.  Just a pity that they don't integrate into the directory structure.
[06:03] <mhz> hno73, ping?
[06:04] <hno73> mhz: Hi!
[06:04] <tandy> ivoks: is there anything elseb esides trickle ican ivnestigate
[06:04] <caonex> can anybody tell me the meaning of: /sbin/init: 428 cannot open device console. And, Kernel Panic - not syncing: attempted to kill unit. I get that when i try to boot my kernel.
[06:04] <ivoks> tandy: QoS/Netfilter
[06:04] <stazz> Why in some programs, such as xmms, the fonts are terribly small?
[06:05] <ivoks> caonex: udev problem
[06:05] <ivoks> caonex: did you upgrade from sarge?
[06:06] <goye2cz> I'm trying to install alsa firmware does anyone know how to translate these instructions? To utilitarian for me. http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/stable/multimedia/alsa-firmware.html Also I'm using gnome if that makes a difference.
[06:06] <ivoks> caonex: ah, that's your own kernel? i guess you didn't compile it right :)
[06:06] <james__> what do people use to edit mp3 tags? rythmbox doesnt see to support this?
[06:06] <stazz> james__: kid3 :)
[06:09] <goye2cz> hondje: do you have time to help with some jibberish?
[06:09] <james__> Can I get a patch that will let me edit them in rythmbox?
[06:09] <Amaranth> james__: tagtool or easytag
[06:09] <Amaranth> james__: rhythmbox in CVS supports it
[06:09] <james__> CVS?
[06:10] <Amaranth> james__: that means the next version of rhythmbox will have it
[06:10] <james__> ok, what do CVS actually stand for, anyway?
[06:10] <chrissturm> concurrent versioning system
[06:10] <james__> thanks
[06:11] <caonex> ivoks, no i did not. I installed ubuntu from scratch.
[06:11] <wulfepup> bbiab
[06:11] <caonex> ivoks, that is not my own actually, that error i get when booting the one from ubuntu thta i had to reinstall for some conflicts
[06:11] <raptoid> help me help me
[06:11] <raptoid> raptoid@ubuntu:~$ sudo -s -H
[06:11] <raptoid> raptoid is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[06:11] <raptoid> raptoid@ubuntu:~$ sudo -s
[06:11] <raptoid> raptoid is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[06:11] <raptoid> raptoid@ubuntu:~$
[06:11] <raptoid> ?
[06:12] <raptoid> help me
[06:12] <sgbirch> I am having trouble installing emacs21 from us.archive.ubuntu.com.  Synaptic indicates there is a MD5Sum mispatch.  Anyone else see this?
[06:12] <bob2> sgbirch: /topic
[06:12] <gnuyen> Hi guys, when I stick a USB key in it automounts
[06:12] <pedro_> sgbirch: see the topic
[06:12] <sgbirch> s/mispatch/mismatch/
[06:12] <bob2> bah
[06:12] <raz> Best CD writting software under ubuntu?
[06:12] <bob2> raz: nautilus
[06:13] <sgbirch> duh ... thanks
[06:13] <gnuyen> but when I stick my ihp-120 (iriver mp3 player) which is also a USB storage device
[06:13] <raptoid> raptoid@ubuntu:~$ sudo -s -H
[06:13] <raptoid> raptoid is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[06:13] <gnuyen> it dosen't autmount
[06:13] <raptoid> help me ?
[06:13] <xxenon> is there a file in which I add startup iptables rules ?
[06:13] <Choubaka> Hm.
[06:13] <gnuyen> automount
[06:13] <ninwa> 'ello. I was told earlier that Ubuntu comes with DRI installed. I've done a little researched and it seems that it may've, but mine doesn't seem to be configured properly. xdriinfo says: "Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0""... Could I get some direction on how to fix this?
[06:13] <gnuyen> how can I get it to automount and show an icon on the desktop
[06:13] <lleberg_> How much.. does a camel (the desert animal) cost?
[06:13] <Choubaka> My camera still doesn't automount, but I guess it's ok :P
[06:13] <pedro_> see you later
[06:13] <bob2> xxenon: /usr/share/doc/iptables/README.Debian
[06:13] <bob2> ninwa: yes, it doesn't include it for savage
[06:13] <xxenon> bob2 - thx
[06:13] <gnuyen> It automounted in FC3
[06:13] <bob2> lleberg_: #blah
[06:14] <ninwa> bob2, I doubt there's a package I can download for an instafix, should I download dri manually then? Their Wiki claims support for Savage
[06:14] <gnuyen> I have "Mount removable drives when hot plugged"
[06:14] <gnuyen> checked
[06:15] <gnuyen> in side the removable drives and media preferences
[06:15] <Lafitte-> bob2,  how do you get nautilas for burning ?
[06:15] <raz> bob2, nautilus' a cd-writting software?!! :|
[06:15] <bob2> Lafitte-: put in a blank cd.  enjoy.
[06:15] <bob2> raz: yes
[06:15] <zelurxunil> quick question...im going through a Hoary install and am at the partitioner right now...i have a windows fat32 partition and 50mb for a /boot partition along with the / partition....which ones do i put the bootable flag on.../boot or the windows and / partition?
[06:15] <bob2> ninwa: no idea, I'd ask on the mailing list
[06:15] <Lafitte-> bob2,  mine opens gnomebaker
[06:16] <goye2cz> I'm about to scream here. any help for installing alsa firmware?
[06:16] <bob2> ouch
[06:16] <chaitat> ?hello world
[06:16] <bob2> goye2cz: try asking on the mailing list
[06:16] <bob2> since no one here seems to know
[06:16] <bob2> (and I'v never even heard of playing with sound card firmware)
[06:16] <goye2cz> bob2: mailing list for alsa firmware?
[06:16] <chaitat> i add second ram into my pc, bios recognised it but
[06:16] <chaitat> linux doesn't
[06:16] <chaitat> ???
[06:16] <raz> bob2.. anything like nero for linux?
[06:16] <bob2> goye2cz: http://lists.ubuntu.com/
[06:16] <bob2> raz: you can buy nero for linux
[06:17] <goye2cz> bob2: thx
[06:17] <Lafitte-> raz,  gnomebaker is like that
[06:17] <zelurxunil> do you set the bootable flag on /boot or the partitions with OSes?
[06:17] <bob2> no
[06:17] <bob2> neither
[06:18] <yaaar_work> raz, actually, if you already own nero for windows, nero for linux is free. just download it and give it your windows license key
[06:18] <holycow> speaking of sound cards ....
[06:18] <bob2> only windows cares
[06:18] <holycow> my issue last night with alsa pumping a high pitched noise into my speakers ...
[06:18] <raz> yaaar, aighties.
[06:18] <zelurxunil> alright thanks
[06:18] <holycow> turned out to be a mixer issue related to mythtv installation
[06:18] <holycow> after installing myth, if i block signal input from the mic, the high pitch sound is produced
[06:19] <holycow> if i unblock input from mic but mute it, it goes away
[06:19] <holycow> maybe that will help someone if they run into the same issue
[06:19] <Matthew_W> How do I get my OpenGL support to work?  I'm trying to play games using cedega, but... no OpenGL..
[06:20] <Nightcr8w> greetings
[06:20] <Nightcr8w> have a question
[06:20] <Nightcr8w> has anyone ran into a problem while installing gnome on a clean server?
[06:21] <Lafitte-> bob2,  man   great tip    on the software
[06:21] <Nightcr8w> I am getting what seems to be a dependency problem while installing gnome-applets-data
[06:22] <Efwis> is there a way to get my modem to be used as a fax machine while hooked up on eth0 for my net connection?
[06:24] <Nightcr8w> has anyone experienced a problem while installing gnome with the app called gnome-applets-data????
[06:24] <Matthew_W> bob2: you still around here?
[06:25] <chrissturm> someone should port quicksilver to gnome
[06:25] <mjr> Efwis, try hylafax
[06:26] <Efwis> it just sits there trying to talk to the modem continuously,
[06:27] <anacron> hey guys, how can i get my wlan work with ndiswrapper?
[06:27] <Efwis> tried it for like 5 minutes
[06:27] <sniff> which card?
[06:27] <Amaranth> chrissturm: quicksilver? you mean someone should add autocomplete to Alt-F2? :)
[06:27] <anacron> i have an pci card (d-link dwl-510)
[06:28] <anacron> i already downloaded those drivers and made that ndiswrapper i + inf thing
[06:28] <sniff> modprobe
[06:28] <anacron> modprobe?
[06:28] <sniff> modprobe ndiswrapper
[06:28] <bolsh> heya! I got a problem with gnome when I upgraded to 2.6.11.11, seems like the dhclient is causing it to break, anyone heard about this ?
[06:28] <debian_> is ubuntuforums.org timing out for anyone else when they try and visit it?
[06:29] <sniff> than it should work d-link cards are good supported
[06:29] <Efwis> i'll try hylafax again, but when I did the scan modem it said something about needing kernel headers
[06:29] <anacron> sniff: what next?
[06:29] <chrissturm> Amaranth, that would be a good start
[06:29] <anacron> sniff: oh nothing, i found out already
[06:29] <Shachaf> Has anybody else here had trouble getting Ubuntu working with an eepro100?
[06:30] <makaveli> alright guys i have a situation i backed up my linux patition using acronis true image i was duall booting windows xp and i had a bootsect.lnx where i used the dd command to us nt's boot loader to boot linux now i had to zero out my hard drive and i am currently re-installing the only problem is that after i have restored the linux partition the bootsect.lnx won't work is there anyway to use a live cd to get into gnome so that i 
[06:30] <sniff> does the power led work?
[06:30] <Stuttergart> Is it just me or are the download archives completely screwed right now?
[06:30] <goye2cz> what does it mean when I try to install something and it says no acceptable c compiler found?
[06:30] <Stuttergart> I'm getting MD5 mismatches on almost everything.
[06:31] <mjr> Stuttergart, I hear the us mirror is borken
[06:31] <mjr> Stuttergart, see topic
[06:31] <GNULinuxer> which package contains db2html ?
[06:31] <wulfe_afk> Stuttergart: check the /topic ?
[06:31] <Nightcr8w> is there a problem installing gnome-applets-data when installing gnome ???
[06:31] <nalioth> Stuttergart: open your sources.list and remove the us. part of us.archive.etc
[06:31] <Stuttergart> ic
[06:31] <nalioth> Stuttergart: on all lines with us.whatever
[06:32] <Stuttergart> not sure how I overlooked that in the topic
[06:32] <makaveli> ?
[06:32] <mjr> GNULinuxer, dunno, but you can use apt-file to search (install it first)
[06:32] <GNULinuxer> mjr, fine
[06:34] <PhantomFreak> Does the mwave modem work out of the box?
[06:34] <albacker> guys can someone help me here ? : http://rafb.net/paste/results/mOa0ic54.html
[06:36] <thenuke> albacker: well, did you install mplayer without apt-get?
[06:37] <albacker> thenuke, i dont remember. what if i have installed it from a deb package ?
[06:37] <justin> albacker: use aptitude to look at your installed packages. the name isn't exactly 'mplayer'
[06:37] <thenuke> if you had, apt-get should know it
[06:37] <Efwis> for faxsetup, how do I go about finding out what port my modem is on in Ubuntu?
[06:38] <albacker> justin, what is it ?
[06:38] <thenuke> yup, try aptiude from console or synaptic
[06:38] <justin> albacker: uh, look?
[06:38] <ivoks> Efwis: /dev/modem is good choice :)
[06:38] <Efwis> ty
[06:38] <albacker> justin, where ?
[06:38] <^egg^> po
[06:39] <^egg^> hi
[06:40] <hac> y cpu use is 100% when I resize a window...Why?I'm using Gnome 2.10
[06:40] <hac> *My
[06:40] <albacker> does anyone know how to delete packages installed with dpkg ?
[06:41] <ninwa> cant you apt-get remove pkg_name ?
[06:41] <justin> albacker: 12:37 < justin> albacker: use aptitude to look at your installed packages. the name isn't exactly 'mplayer'
[06:41] <albacker> justin, what is it than ?
[06:41] <justin> albacker: or synaptic, or even dpkg. pick one and look. stop guessing
[06:41] <^egg^> hac:  no
[06:41] <Efwis> whats this? local identification string???, sorry I'm a noob at Linux
[06:41] <justin> albacker: why don't you LOOK
[06:42] <albacker> root@galaxy:/home/eni # dpkg -r mplayer
[06:42] <albacker> dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove mplayer which isn't installed.
[06:42] <^egg^> Efwis:  what string?
[06:42] <Matthew_W> Hey - Do any of you know any program that would allow me to edit my cell phone through linux?  Or drivers for LG phones?  Or if they're supported etc.
[06:42] <justin> albacker: use aptitude to look at your installed packages. the name isn't exactly 'mplayer'
[06:42] <justin> albacker: or synaptic, or even dpkg. pick one and look. stop guessing
[06:43] <Efwis> ^egg^, its says "Local identification string (for TSI/CIG) ["NothingSetup"] ?
[06:43] <albacker> ok justin thanks a lot
[06:43] <^egg^> Efwis:  o.o
[06:44] <anacron> yeah i got my wlan working <3
[06:44] <anacron> *dancing*
[06:44] <^egg^> ...
[06:44] <^egg^> idiot
[06:45] <justin> Efwis: are you trying to set up faxing
[06:45] <dbernar1> s\
[06:45] <Efwis> yes
[06:46] <justin> Efwis: press enter or make up something then
[06:46] <Efwis> k
[06:47] <raptoid> hi
[06:47] <raptoid> guyz..
[06:47] <raptoid> help me pls..
[06:47] <^egg^> hi
[06:47] <^egg^> what?
[06:47] <Matthew_W> justin: as you seem to be the only person responding, I suppose I'll have to ask you - what on Earth is wrong with my serial/com ports... I have a cable for my phone (usb to serial) and when I try to detect it, it says that there are no com ports on my computer, but.. I'm looking at them
[06:47] <raptoid> raptoid@ubuntu:/home$ sudo -s
[06:47] <raptoid> raptoid is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[06:47] <raptoid> ?
[06:48] <raptoid> raptoid@ubuntu:/home$ sudo -s -H
[06:48] <raptoid> raptoid is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[06:48] <raptoid> ?
[06:48] <Matthew_W> raptoid: what are you trying to do?
[06:48] <dbernar1> you are not in the sudoers file, as it says.
[06:48] <raptoid> i dont no
[06:48] <dbernar1> raptoid do you have anyh other users on the comp?
[06:49] <dbernar1> hurry hurry
[06:49] <dbernar1> :P
[06:49] <^egg^> raptoid:  &$%^#$#$$#%^^%^%^%$^$%^%$^%
[06:49] <raptoid> 1 mn.
[06:49] <dbernar1> ^egg^ what the dealy, yo?
[06:50] <raptoid> sorry
[06:50] <dbernar1> raptoid other users on the comp?
[06:50] <newbie^> hi dudes
[06:50] <dbernar1> I dont have lots of time, please hurry
[06:50] <Shachaf> Has anybody else here had trouble getting Ubuntu working with an eepro100?
[06:51] <Matthew_W> raptoid:  what distro are you using?
[06:51] <Matthew_W> raptoid:  ubuntu or kubuntu
[06:51] <raptoid> ubuntu
[06:51] <^egg^> lol
[06:51] <newbie^> i cant be root
[06:51] <Matthew_W> raptoid:  ok, that happens to a lot of people under kubuntu, jw.
[06:51] <newbie^> how can i fix it Matthew_W?
[06:51] <newbie^> help me
[06:51] <Matthew_W> newbie^:  you can't generally be root in ubuntu unless you set it up.  Just use sudo
[06:51] <^egg^> 543 p now
[06:51] <tsw> Shachaf: worked great for me, I just had to check that it is the only device using its irq in bios
[06:51] <newbie^> i ll give you sweet
[06:52] <newbie^> how can i use sudo?
[06:52] <makaveli> does anyone know how to get a bootsect.lnx from your linux to your windows without using a floppy
[06:52] <nalioth> newbie^: please be more specific
[06:52] <newbie^> can i give an example please.
[06:52] <Matthew_W> newbie^:  example  -- sudo dpkg -i foo
[06:52] <newbie^> = - (
[06:52] <makaveli> or does anyone know how to get into ubuntu system using a live cd?
[06:52] <Matthew_W> newbie^:  sudo = super-user do  (or, perform as root.)  So, whatever you want to do, just hit sudo.
[06:52] <nalioth> newbie^: "sudo <command goes here>"
[06:52] <dr_willis> makaveli,  hmm to do what exactly?
[06:52] <newbie^> hmm
[06:52] <newbie^> how can i create sudo file?=
[06:52] <anacron> what is sudo file? :D
[06:53] <Shachaf> tsw: This works in other distributions and in Windows.
[06:53] <nalioth> newbie^: what do you mean?
[06:53] <Matthew_W> newbie^: alternately, try     sudo -s    to switch to root temporarily
[06:53] <mindspin> just type sudo vi and vi opens
[06:53] <Shachaf> tsw: I tried loading eepro100, e100, and both.
[06:53] <newbie^> i want to delete i directory
[06:53] <Matthew_W> newbie^:  also, in gnome, you can just hit applications, system tools, root terminal.
[06:53] <newbie^> as sudo
[06:53] <Shachaf> tsw: DHCP and static IP.
[06:53] <newbie^> how can i do that
[06:53] <makaveli> dr_willis: i had to zero out my hard drive and now i am trying to restore the linux backup that i made the only thing is after restored the old bootsect.lnx doesn't work no more and i need to make a new one
[06:53] <Shachaf> tsw: Nothing works.
[06:53] <Matthew_W> newbie^:  sudo rmdir /foo/foo
[06:53] <tsw> Shachaf: it should load just fine all by itself. check that no other device uses same irq
[06:53] <newbie^> okay
[06:53] <mindspin> or sudo whateverprogramyouwannastert and whateverprogramyouwannastert starts
[06:54] <dr_willis> makaveli,  you can boot the live cd.. mount the existing partons and use 'chroot' -  i belve the ubuntu wiki's have some details on restoreing the boot loader.
[06:54] <Shachaf> tsw: It didn't get detected during the installation either.
[06:54] <makaveli> dr_willis: also i don't know how to do that other than getting into gnome from a live cd and then e-mailing it to myself and then opening it in windows
[06:54] <makaveli> dr_willis: can i get into gnome so that i can e-mail myself the bootsect.lnx from a live cd?
[06:54] <nalioth> newbie^: you don't need 'sudo' to delete a directory
[06:55] <ryan_> anyone know when the 7664 nvidia drivers will be added into the rep
[06:55] <mindspin> except its a system directory
[06:55] <dr_willis> makaveli,  you can use a live cd and mount the existing partions then  do whateer you need to with them perhaps. i got no idea what you mean by bootsect.lnx really
[06:56] <caonex> can anybody tell me the meaning of: /sbin/init: 428 cannot open device console. And, Kernel Panic - not syncing: attempted to kill unit. I get that when i try to boot my kernel.
[06:56] <mindspin> newbie rm -R if the directory is not empty
[06:57] <Fabian> hello everybody
[06:57] <Matthew_W> Hiya
[06:57] <^egg^> hello
[06:57] <^egg^> cya
[06:57] <Fabian> I'm very new to linux, so can anyone help me mounting my second windows partition under linux?
[06:58] <nalioth> Fabian: your SECOND win partition?
[06:58] <Efwis> I keep getting "Unable to deduce DTE-DCE speed; check that you are using the
[06:58] <Efwis> correct device and/or that your modem is setup properly."
[06:58] <ryan_> try mount /dev/harddrive as shown in dev -t filesystem type /mount point
[06:59] <mindspin> Efwis is it a winmodem?
[06:59] <newbie^> how can i myself to sudoers file
[06:59] <newbie^> ?
[06:59] <newbie^> = - ( i cant use sudo
[06:59] <Efwis> I believe it is, been a while since I put it in, like when I built the box 2 years ago
[06:59] <mindspin> why do you want that ?
[06:59] <Fabian> nalioth, yep. Got the following: 1. partion: NTFS, this is where XP is installed, 2. partition FAT 32 where I got all my documents music, movies and stuff, 3. partition swap, 4. partition ext3
[07:00] <mindspin> newbie IC
[07:00] <newbie^> what s IC
[07:00] <newbie^> mindframe
[07:00] <mindspin> i se
[07:00] <nalioth> Fabian: so this is the FIRST partition you want to mount under linux, right?
[07:00] <mindspin> see
[07:00] <newbie^> can u tell me please if u have a little time
[07:00] <newbie^> i ll give you a sweet
[07:01] <newbie^> = - (
[07:01] <Fabian> nalioth, no, i want to mount the second one with my documents, so i can listen to music and write stuff both in linux and windows
[07:01] <nalioth> Fabian: ask uncle google "mount windows partition linux fstab"
[07:01] <nalioth> Fabian: you will get your answer there
[07:02] <nalioth> Fabian: i unfortunately don't run intel, so i cant help you firsthand
[07:04] <goye2cz> can someone help me with syntax? I need to figure out what to place in a sudo command in place of /path/to
[07:04] <bodaciousb> how long does it take for new drivers to hit the apt database?
[07:04] <ryan_> sudo mount /dev/hdb2 -t fat32 /mnt/windows  just make sure you sudo nkdir windows first
[07:05] <nalioth> goye2cz: what are you trying to do?
[07:05] <nalioth> ryan_: mind the typos
[07:05] <goye2cz> nalioth: I'm trying to install some drivers...
[07:06] <reka> anyone used gparted/qtparted?
[07:06] <goye2cz> nalitoh: the command I'm tryign to exeecute is: sudo fxload -s /path/to/ld2-ezusb.hex -I /usr/share/alsa/firmware/usx2yloader/us122fw.ihx -D /proc/bus/usb/001/005
[07:06] <Funraiser> reka, yes
[07:07] <goye2cz> nalioth: I need to replac path/to with where my file is loccated. I know the location.
[07:07] <nalioth> goye2cz: if you know where the file is, how can you not know the path?
[07:07] <nalioth> reka: parted user here, whassup?
[07:08] <reka> Funraiser: i'm just trialling it atm.  i'd like to make a new partition but can't seem to be able to.  the new partition option is greyed out and there are padlocks next to the partition labels.  i assume this means i can't make changes.
[07:08] <nalioth> reka: r u root?
[07:08] <reka> nalioth: er, no.
[07:08] <nalioth> reka: there ya go, use "sudo"
[07:08] <goye2cz> nalioth: it's not that I don't know the path, I'm jsut not having success replacing the path/to with something it will accept.
[07:08] <nalioth> goye2cz: WHERE exactly is the file?
[07:09] <nalioth> reka: no more gray skies, er buttons
[07:09] <reka> nalioth: tried it now... same thing, can't seem to change it.
[07:09] <goye2cz> it's in Desktop/usx2y-fw-0.1b
[07:09] <nalioth> reka that is weird
[07:09] <wulfe_afk> bbiab
[07:09] <nalioth> goye2cz: so use ~/Desktop/filename
[07:09] <goye2cz> nalioth: it's in Desktop/usx2y-fw-0.1b
[07:10] <goye2cz> nalioth: will try.
[07:10] <nalioth> reka: its very easy to do
[07:10] <reka> nalioth: you sell yourself short. :-)
[07:10] <nalioth> reka so ya ran 'sudo qtparted" and still have no play. have you tried to make some room (or are all changeable elements unavailable)?
[07:11] <reka> hang on, i'll post a screenshot
[07:11] <Fabian> got a question about /etc/networks/interfaces: there is written the following: "mapping hotplug \n script grep\n map eth0" where \n is a new line. What does this entry mean???
[07:12] <goye2cz> nalioth: I wonder if I have other problems. It keeps telling me unable to open for input.
[07:12] <nalioth> goye2cz: are you in a terminal?
[07:12] <goye2cz> yes
[07:13] <ttrocal> Hello, I was wondering if during the Hoary installation you can specify to keep the home directory of your old Linux install, as I would like to.  Can you?
[07:13] <reka> nalioth: http://tinypic.com/5xit1u
[07:13] <nalioth> goye2cz: type "file ~/Desktop/nameOfFile"
[07:14] <Funraiser> reka, if u select the partition the resize button doesn't appear?
[07:14] <nalioth> reka: ya need really quick fingers
[07:14] <goye2cz> nalioth: shell archive or script for antique kernel text
[07:15] <nalioth> goye2cz: how OLD is the file/what are you trying to do?
[07:15] <reka> Funraiser: no, if i tight-click, everything except unmount is greyed-out
[07:15] <reka> *right-click rather :-)
[07:16] <goye2cz> nalioth: I'm installing drivers for my tascam us122, following directions on the ubuntu forum. will try to check age of file...
[07:16] <Funraiser> reka, how many hard drive do u have?
[07:16] <reka> one
[07:16] <goye2cz> nalioth: almost a year exactly
[07:16] <lleberg_> I have a small problem..
[07:17] <reka> lleberg: ask away
[07:17] <Funraiser> reka, your computer is AMD?
[07:17] <nalioth> goye2cz: type "ls -l ~/Desktop/NameOfFile" and paste the line it gives you here
[07:17] <Funraiser> AMD64?
[07:17] <reka> Funraiser: intel p4
[07:17] <manwel> hello, i am running ubuntu 5.04 on a nx6110 (HP-compaq laptop) , all works out of the box except i cant reboot, it just hangs, what should/could i try ?
[07:17] <lleberg_> If i have a firefox window on workdesk 1, and have the workdesk 2 active.. and clicks on a link on my desktop, it opends in a new tab.. in the firefox on workdesk 1!
[07:17] <stjepan> hi from xfce :)
[07:18] <nalioth> manwel: how long have you waited for it to reboot?
[07:18] <manwel> well i have already waited for 10 minuts..
[07:18] <lleberg_> I can start a separate firefox on that workdesk
[07:18] <manwel> i guess its suffiscient;p
[07:19] <lleberg_> but from links it opens in a new tab
[07:19] <goye2cz> nalioth: -rw-r--r--  1 goye2cz goye2cz 986 2004-06-10 22:35 /home/goye2cz/Desktop/ld2-ezusb.hex
[07:19] <nalioth> manwel: although i don't advise straight-out killing a linux machine, you may get tired of waiting
[07:19] <reka> Funraiser: any other ideas?
[07:19] <Funraiser> reka, did u have any root problems before?
[07:19] <nalioth> anyone know if a .hex is sposed to be executable?
[07:19] <reka> Funraiser: what do you mean?
[07:19] <nalioth> goye2cz: are you trying to execute the file?
[07:20] <Matthew_W> nail:  dont think.
[07:20] <goye2cz> nalioth: do you want to see the command I'm trying to run on it?
[07:20] <manwel> In fact, i have read that i should add reboot=b to the kernel command line but as i am quite new to linux, i dont understand what it means very well :(
[07:20] <Funraiser> reka, like an app that doesn't start because it asks for root privileges?
[07:20] <goye2cz> nalioth: sudo fxload -s /~Desktop/ld2-ezusb.hex -I /usr/share/alsa/firmware/usx2yloader/us122fw.ihx -D /proc/bus/usb/001/002
[07:21] <lleberg_> So..
[07:21] <reka> Funraiser: nope.
[07:21] <Funraiser> reka, like synaptic..
[07:21] <reka> nope
[07:21] <Matthew_W> I need help with serial port operations.
[07:21] <lleberg_> How do i get a starter.. to opend a NEW firefox window on the active workdesk, and link to and url?
[07:22] <Matthew_W> My comp doesn't seem to think I have them.
[07:22] <Funraiser> reka, well what I would do is I would use partition magic on windows
[07:23] <Funraiser> reka, i mean when nothing else works...
[07:23] <reka> Funraiser: ah. not an option for me i'm afraid ... don't have it.
[07:23] <Funraiser> reka, don't have partition magic?
[07:23] <reka> nope, never needed it.
[07:23] <Funraiser> reka, or windows?
[07:23] <Funraiser> oh
[07:23] <nalioth> goye2cz: ok i'm not real sure what you are trying to do. and i dont want to advise you ignorantly
[07:24] <goye2cz> nalioth: alright, understood
[07:24] <CrAzyLaRvE> hello :)
[07:24] <reka> Funraiser: hmm, gparted tells me the disktype is msdos.  could this be the prob.?
[07:24] <nalioth> reka: do you have a ubuntu live cd (or knoppix)?
[07:24] <goye2cz> nalioth: thanks anyway
[07:24] <lleberg_> Why does xmms take 7.5% of my cpu power? =)
[07:24] <Matthew_W> I'm trying to use BitPim to access my cell phone, the problem is, it seems to say I have no USB/serial ports, help!
[07:24] <nalioth> lleberg_: its not written well?
[07:24] <anacron> what's a light tv-card software which works with hauppauge's cards?
[07:25] <reka> nalioth: warty livecd (i'm on hoary), and an outdated knoppix cd.  heh.
[07:25] <thundrcleeze> lleberg, because you have a 75 mhz pc?
[07:25] <Funraiser> reka, i don't think so
[07:26] <wijnand> whenever i try to play something (xvid/divx) with mplayer, it "freezes" on me -- is this a common thing with ootb mplayer in ubuntu?
[07:26] <Matthew_W> wijnand:  you need to change the video encoder to something that is supported on your system.  Go into mplayer preferences and look at output, under video.
[07:27] <Fabian> nalioth, got it mounted, thanks! Is there a problem writing on FAT32?
[07:27] <Matthew_W> wijnand: I had a similar problem.
[07:27] <wijnand> Matthew_W: you are using the gui, i assume? :)
[07:27] <wijnand> i'll have a look, thanks
[07:27] <Matthew_W> wijnand: yup.
[07:27] <Matthew_W> No problem.
[07:28] <Matthew_W> wijnand:  Another thing, the sound may be bugged, that also happens a lot.  Come back if that doesn't work, run it in verbose, and we'll see what else is going wrong.
[07:28] <Bicky> hello
[07:29] <Bicky> can somebody help me ?
[07:29] <wijnand> Matthew_W: should i just compile it myself?
[07:29] <Matthew_W> If you're on ubuntu, didn't you install it from synaptic?
[07:29] <mindspin> bicky ask
[07:30] <Bicky> I just tried to start-up the life cd from ubuntu 5.04
[07:30] <Bicky> it said: your computer does not support long mode
[07:30] <Fabian> is that the right option to be able to read and write on a FAT 32 partition: "/dev/hda5   /home/daten   vfat     auto, uid=1000,git=1000 0 0"
[07:30] <Matthew_W> wijnand:  did you install it from synaptic..?
[07:30] <Bicky> but I've a AMD athlon 64 processor and it was the 64-bit version
[07:31] <Bicky> what am I doing wrong ?
[07:31] <mindspin> no clue on 64-bit stuff sorry
[07:31] <nalioth> Fabian: only NTFS writing is unstable atm
[07:31] <Matthew_W> Bicky:  try installing the i386 regular old non 64 bit version.
[07:32] <Matthew_W> Bicky:  errr.... booting from it.
[07:32] <Bicky> it keep stopping while loading
[07:32] <Fabian> nalioth, so that line is correct for writing on FAT 32? (that line's in /etc/fstab)
[07:32] <nalioth> Fabian: does it allow you to write?
[07:32] <HappyFool> Fabian: you might want to be careful with spaces in that line
[07:32] <Matthew_W> Bicky:  Do all options stop?  Like, do they all hang, or just the 64 bit?
[07:32] <caonex> how can i install ubuntu from a .iso in a partition other than the root will be one?
[07:32] <caonex> do i need a diskette?
[07:32] <wijnand> Matthew_W: i did, and it's working now -- i think it was because it was using alsa rather than ESD, as changing video output back to default didn't seem to matter -- anyway it's working now, thanks :)
[07:33] <Matthew_W> wijnand:  no problem -- the sound is harder to fix, so that's good.
[07:33] <wijnand> yeah
[07:33] <HappyFool> Fabian: also, is /home/daten your home directory ? I really wouldn't mount it there
[07:33] <Bicky> matthew: dont know, it just stops, then i can't do anything anymore
[07:33] <nalioth> Fabian: like HappyFool said, take out the space tween the auto, and uid
[07:33] <Matthew_W> mindspin:  hey -- do you know anything about configuring USB / Serial ports X_X
[07:33] <HappyFool> Fabian: i'd mount it at /media/windows, or maybe /mnt/windows
[07:33] <Fabian> HappyFool, there is no space  between auto and uid. The other spaces are set to match the lines above
[07:34] <Matthew_W> Bicky:  hrm, have you passed any special options to the kernel at boot? (you can do that with this live cd right..? lol )
[07:34] <nalioth> Fabian: yes, you need a nother mount point
[07:34] <nalioth> Fabian: i recommend /mnt/whatever_U_want_2_call_it
[07:34] <Fabian> nalioth, why do I need another mount point? what is the problem?
[07:34] <nalioth> Fabian: then symlink it to your $homedir
[07:35] <nalioth> Fabian: if you run that line, you'll make your win partition your home directory in linux (nad you will be in deep doodoo)
[07:35] <Bicky> yes I've tried the special options
[07:35] <trillian> Hi, relatively simple question: Is Ubuntu supposed to come with a c compiler?  I'm trying to install some program packages but the system is having no luck detecting cc or gcc or anything.
[07:35] <Fabian> nalioth, ??? I don't make it my homedirectory!? My home directory is /home
[07:35] <nalioth> trillian: install "build-essential"
[07:36] <mindspin> Matthew_W sorry, no, hardware isnt my thing ;-)
[07:36] <nalioth> Fabian: your home dir is /home/username (is your user name daten?
[07:36] <Fabian> trillian, no, not be default, as i experienced
[07:36] <trillian> nalioth: Thanks. What is it?
[07:36] <Fabian> nalioth, no, it's fabian so /home/fabian
[07:36] <nalioth> trillian: is a metapkg with gnu c compiler, and other stuff you need to build things
[07:37] <nalioth> Fabian: then you gave your box another user home directory, which is still not too good
[07:37] <Fabian> alright
[07:37] <nalioth> Fabian: change the /home/daten to /mnt/whatever and then symlink /mnt/whatever into your homedir
[07:37] <trillian> nalioth: Thank you. I'll try it right now.
[07:37] <Bicky> this is quite a busy channel
[07:38] <HappyFool> Fabian: (in your fstab line) what's the 'auto' option in field 4 for ? Did you maybe mean noauto? I've skimmed the man pages but can't find a reference to it
[07:38] <nalioth> reka: need to borrow a hammer to make some space on that drive?
[07:38] <nalioth> HappyFool: auto means mount when the machine starts, noauto means you have to issue "mount whatever/whatever"
[07:38] <HappyFool> nalioth: hrm. ok, man fstab only has noauto
[07:39] <reka> nalioth: ah.  so *that's* the problem then?  no space?
[07:39] <Fabian> HappyFool, don't know anything about those options. Found them on http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[07:39] <nalioth> reka: idk. r u out of space?
[07:40] <HappyFool> Fabian: ok, seems all right. i think 'auto' might be the default, but i guess having it will do no harm
[07:40] <Fabian> ok
[07:40] <reka> nalioth: well, the partitions use all the drive.  is that what you mean?
[07:40] <nalioth> reka: not bein in your shoes (or vnc'd into your machine, i have no clue why you cant play with parted)
[07:40] <goye2cz> anyone here have success installing a tascam us122 with ubuntu?
[07:41] <nalioth> HappyFool: just saves having to issue "mount /path/to/whatever" by hand every time
[07:41] <TheSquire> Hey guys
[07:41] <HappyFool> nalioth: isn't 'auto' implicit ?
[07:41] <TheSquire> I have a question
[07:41] <mindspin> reka you can get information on your harddrives by using the command du
[07:41] <makaveli0129> does anyone know where i can get a fairly small debian based live cd?
[07:41] <mindspin> du = disk usage
[07:42] <nalioth> HappyFool: 'noauto' is the default
[07:42] <TheSquire> is ubuntu a good distro for kinda newbies? I've used fc2 before...
[07:42] <nalioth> makaveli0129: damnsmalllinux.org
[07:42] <makaveli0129> thank you
[07:42] <ryan_> re: gparted/qparted, I had the same problem and  thought a google search stated that neither could resize an active partition/drive.  Must be unmounted
[07:42] <nalioth> TheSquire: its the best for newbies
[07:42] <HappyFool> nalioth: you sure? ;) cos i have a line like this: '/dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    ro,umask=000    0       0' and my ntfs partition is always mounted on boot
[07:42] <TheSquire> nalioth: how so?
[07:42] <Fabian> gotta reboot. cu later
[07:42] <nalioth> reka: see what ryan sed, and pull out your liveCD
[07:43] <trillian> TheSquire: I just installed Ubuntu about 2 hours ago and I have never used linux in my life. I like it.  It's not hard.
[07:43] <nalioth> HappyFool: not sure, but i don't mess with NTFS at all
[07:43] <reka> thanks ryan_
[07:43] <ryan_> np
[07:43] <HappyFool> nalioth: nothing to do with ntfs. i mean the auto/noauto thing
[07:43] <xnoff> hey I've got a prob
[07:43] <Rockett17> nice job trillian
[07:43] <nalioth> HappyFool: and i havent owned a x86 box in over 3 years, so was helpin from memory
[07:43] <Rockett17> welcome to the nix world
[07:43] <TheSquire> trillian: cool, so the default installation is pretty easy and all?
[07:43] <xnoff> I would like to install something, but I don't have gcc set up
[07:44] <reka> xnoff: install buld-essentail
[07:44] <nalioth> HappyFool: i'm not all that deep into what magic the distro does in the absense of variables
[07:44] <Rockett17> apt-get install gcc
[07:44] <HappyFool> nalioth: check 'man mount' under the '-a' option. i think 'auto' is the default, unless vfat is special
[07:44] <reka> *buld-essential
[07:44] <xnoff> actually it gives me a $PATH error when I ./configure
[07:44] <trillian> TheSquire: Yes. There's nothing to it.  You put in the install disk (the ONE SINGLE install disk...yes) and follow the instructions on screen.
[07:44] <Shachaf> Has eepro100 really worked for everybody here out of the box?
[07:44] <mindspin> xnoff try installing binarys from the repositorie via apt-get
[07:44] <Shachaf> I can't get it to work at all, DHCP or static, eepro100 or e100.
[07:44] <TheSquire> trillian: sweet! how's package managment? pretty easy?
[07:45] <trillian> TheSquire: I am a computer science major, but I wouldn't have to be.
[07:45] <nalioth> xnoff: the package you need is "build-essential"
[07:45] <trillian> TheSquire: It's very straightforward.
[07:45] <xnoff> thanks guys
[07:45] <nalioth> TheSquire: pkg mgmt is debian, so YES its easy
[07:45] <nalioth> g2g
[07:45] <TheSquire> nalioth: debian is apt, right?
[07:45] <Rockett17> Debian rocks your socks.. i'll never got back to RedHat package management
[07:46] <TheSquire> ya thats what i heard, liked it a lot better than rpm on fc
[07:46] <jamesm> debian made apt
[07:46] <TheSquire> right
[07:46] <Rockett17> thus it runs better than apt-for-rpm
[07:46] <xnoff> wait how do I install build-essential
[07:46] <TheSquire> do you guys know anything about gentoo?
[07:47] <TheSquire> heard thats pretty easy, too
[07:47] <mindspin> sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[07:47] <mindspin> oops  minus s
[07:47] <HappyFool> TheSquire: i heard it helps if you like waiting for compiles to finish ;)
[07:48] <mindspin> but why do want compile programs yerself while not knowing about package management?
[07:48] <xnoff> ok, also I was told to uncomment universe lines in sources.list, and I think there is a command to update my apt, what is that?
[07:48] <chombee> Can anyone tell me how to mount this USB hard-drive enclosure? I can't figure out which device to fdisk or mount. Here is the output of tail /var/log/messages as I turned the device on and off a couple of times: Jun 13 13:28:53 localhost kernel: Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
[07:48] <chombee> Jun 13 13:28:53 localhost kernel: scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
[07:48] <chombee> Jun 13 13:28:53 localhost kernel: usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage
[07:48] <chombee> Jun 13 13:28:53 localhost kernel: USB Mass Storage support registered.
[07:48] <chombee> Jun 13 13:28:53 localhost usb.agent[8612] :      usb-storage: loaded successfullyJun 13 13:31:00 localhost kernel: usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 2
[07:48] <chombee> Jun 13 13:31:38 localhost kernel: usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3
[07:48] <chombee> Jun 13 13:31:38 localhost kernel: scsi1 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
[07:48] <HappyFool> xnoff: sudo apt-get update
[07:48] <chombee> Jun 13 13:31:39 localhost usb.agent[8996] :      usb-storage: already loaded
[07:48] <chombee> Jun 13 13:37:30 localhost kernel: usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 3
[07:48] <chombee> :
[07:48] <reka> !flood
[07:48] <ubotu> flood is, like, Head for the hills the flood has come! please use http://pastebin.com , http://ubuntu.pastebin.com or #flood here on freenode.
[07:48] <HappyFool> chombee: please don't paste so much stuff
[07:49] <Rockett17> nice split
[07:49] <xnoff> thanks
[07:49] <reka> netsplit?
[07:49] <tuxie> hello. How d
[07:49] <HappyFool> heh. course flooding don't matter if there's a netsplit ;)
[07:49] <chombee> HappyFool - sorry. I didn't realise it would space it out so much
[07:49] <Fabian> re
[07:49] <TheSquire> happyfool: so gentoo is really slow?
[07:49] <chombee> So anyway - it looks like it loaded to.. what device? uhci_hcd?
[07:50] <HappyFool> TheSquire: i've never tried. i imagine that once everything is actually compiled, it's pretty fast ;)
[07:50] <TheSquire> happyfool: the 'update everything with one command' thing sounds really good tho, but thats what apt is for, too, right?
[07:50] <Rockett17> to install it takes an eon.. everything comiled from source
[07:50] <Shachaf> TheSquire: It's not slow for me.
[07:50] <Fabian> HappyFool, alright, got it mounted to /mnt/daten So how do I create that symlink now, that i got a directory in /home/username ???
[07:50] <schlomo> Hi
[07:50] <mindspin> TheSquire you have to compile everything yourself
[07:50] <TheSquire> oh okay
[07:50] <anacron> hello schlomo
[07:50] <Shachaf> TheSquire: You can use binary packages wtih Gentoo, if you really want to.
[07:50] <schlomo> does someone arrive to get his wifi card worky ?
[07:50] <TheSquire> is it a good learning exp?
[07:50] <schlomo> anacron : hi
[07:50] <Fabian> schlomo, yes, just did it!
[07:50] <anacron> schlomo: i did :)
[07:50] <HappyFool> Fabian: ln -s /mnt/daten /home/fabian/windowsmount
[07:50] <Rockett17> howver if ur gonna compile the whole bloody os.. u may as well continue compiling
[07:50] <anacron> Fabian: :D me too! just an hour ago
[07:51] <schlomo> especially a intel ipw2200 ?
[07:51] <schlomo> :)
[07:51] <anacron> bells don't ring on that one
[07:51] <eazel7> hi ppl
[07:51] <TheSquire> rockett17: true...dont really want that, just if i really feel like it
[07:51] <eazel7> I need to install a ubuntu by bootstrapping, how can I do with the basedebs.tar?
[07:52] <makaveli0129> i have a question: what kernel does the ubuntu cd use? For instance i want to set root as root=/dev/hdc2 in the boot parameter but what kernel would i put before that?
[07:52] <schlomo> anacron :  using the ubuntu network tool ?
[07:52] <BoD_SWAT> how can I create a symlink for a device (with udev stopped)? So that I may manually symlink my CD/DVD drive etc. ?
[07:52] <Fabian> schlomo, sorry, hat realtek
[07:52] <Rockett17> personally I never have the time to compile things from source when I can just apt-get them
[07:52] <goye2cz> is there a checksum program included when I install ubuntu?
[07:53] <Rockett17> unless it's apache
[07:53] <Fabian> schlomo, just try to google! Something like: yourwlanchip wlan ubuntu, or similar
[07:53] <makaveli0129> ?
[07:53] <Rockett17> which I always compile out of habit
[07:53] <HappyFool> makaveli0129: wouldn't it be easier to edit grub's /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[07:53] <schlomo> Fabian : you configure it using network tool from ubuntu ?
[07:53] <makaveli0129> happyfool: no i tried that i need to use ubuntu
[07:53] <makaveli0129> cd
[07:53] <Arakn0> hello , i've got a laptop but it has its CD-ROM and floppy-disk broken....and i want to install ubuntu...can i install it from using ethernet??? iit has windows 98 installed.
[07:53] <goo> hello. How can I get the kde-bluetooth package on ubuntu?
[07:53] <Fabian> schlomo, no, i did it using a wiki page ;)
[07:53] <makaveli0129> happyfool: do u know the kernel image?
[07:54] <chombee> Which device should I be looking at after turning on a USB enclosure? /var/log/messages seems to say it setup the device successfully, but I can't see the device name
[07:54] <HappyFool> makaveli0129: oh, i see
[07:54] <HappyFool> makaveli0129: no, sorry
[07:54] <HappyFool> makaveli0129: what are you trying to do ?
[07:54] <schlomo> Fabian : which one ?
[07:54] <reka> Arakn0: you're making things harder for yourself, aren't you? :-)
[07:54] <Fabian> schlomo, what is the manufacturer of your wlan chip?
[07:54] <dr_willis> chombee,  check 'dmesg' output, or 'fdisk -l'
[07:54] <mariusz> hi!, i'd like to use wdm as display manager together with icewm, now the question: where should i put things which suppose to autostart together with X session ? (help!)
[07:54] <TheSquire> rockett17: the problem i had with packages in fc2 was that it took them forever to get an updated gaim package, so I ended up compiling it myself. hows the repository managed/updated?
[07:54] <makaveli0129> happyfool: i need to boot into my ubuntu environment without a bootloader i just got done restoring a backup of the system after zeroing out my harddrive
[07:55] <justin> mariusz: ~/.xsession
[07:55] <scotth> anyone here with apache2 and suexec experience?  I need some help figuring out how to tell it the proper docroot
[07:55] <HappyFool> makaveli0129: can't you perhaps use chroot ?
[07:55] <mariusz> justin: is there a global config file for it?
[07:55] <schlomo> Fabian : ipw2200 module
[07:55] <schlomo> Fabian : intel
[07:55] <Arakn0> well...i dint choose
[07:55] <makaveli0129> happyfool: how would i do that?
[07:56] <HappyFool> makaveli0129: well, first you need to get to a command prompt after booting off the CD
[07:56] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> well they finally released FC4
[07:56] <HappyFool> makaveli0129: i guess you can just use the live cd, that should work
[07:56] <makaveli0129> happyfool: how would i boot off the cd
[07:56] <chombee> "new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2" - is uhci_hcd the device name?
[07:56] <makaveli0129> happyfool: i don't have a debian live cd all i have is gentoo and i already that one and it don't work
[07:56] <justin> mariusz: depends on what you are trying to do
[07:56] <Fabian> schlomo, a pcmcia or inbuilt?
[07:57] <HappyFool> makaveli0129: so you don't have any ubuntu cd's ?
[07:57] <anacron> schlomo is such a rude guy :(
[07:57] <anacron> first he asks me, and then won't even listen
[07:57] <makaveli0129> happyfool:i have the ubuntu install cd and that is it
[07:57] <mariusz> justin: LOL :) I'd like to start gkrellm and rox as a Desktop for every user that logs in :>
[07:57] <anacron> well that's not my problem, i'll go back to do some stuff ->
[07:57] <schlomo> Fabian : inbuilt
[07:57] <dr_willis> chombee,  mine prints out a message like --> SCSI device sdh: 490234752 512-byte hdwr
[07:57] <schlomo> anacron : ??
[07:58] <makaveli0129> happyfool: what would be the boot parameter to get into a command line?
[07:58] <goye2cz> how do I do a checksum in ubuntu?
[07:58] <dr_willis> chombee,  where sdh is the drives name, so sdh1 would be the first parthion
[07:58] <anacron> schlomo: you asked me, and when i answered you won't even listen
[07:58] <mjr> goye2cz, md5sum or sha1sum, for example
[07:58] <justin> mariusz: you can change the default window manager/session manager with update-alternatives, and add a file in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ for gkrellm
[07:58] <magog> anyone got DR17 goin?
[07:58] <anacron> schlomo: check your private msgs
[07:58] <Fabian> schlomo, try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623
[07:58] <schlomo> anacron : sorry didn't see
[07:59] <goye2cz> mjr: are either of those in an app menu?
[07:59] <mjr> goye2cz, probably not, they're command line apps
[07:59] <schlomo> Fabian : nope I'm not using wpa
[07:59] <schlomo> Fabian : but wep ;-)
[07:59] <HappyFool> makaveli0129: i'm not sure. have you tried booting it, getting to the first install screen and then pressing Alt-F2 ? Or checking if there's a 'rescue' mode?
[07:59] <mariusz> justin: o.k. thanks, i'll check that out :)
[07:59] <xnoff> compiling tells me it can't find libncurses
[08:00] <xnoff> does anyone know what that means?
[08:00] <xnoff> I installed build-essentials
[08:00] <xnoff> I installed build-essential
[08:00] <Fabian> schlomo, then do it anyway, without installing the firmware. Just the driver part
[08:00] <HappyFool> xnoff: means you need to install more stuff ;)
[08:00] <justin> xnoff: why are you compiling something?
[08:00] <GNULinuxer> I can't install a lot of apps, the md5sum is not matching ... any solutions?
[08:00] <HappyFool> makaveli0129: just a moment
[08:00] <magog> im trying to follow http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20216&page=1&pp=10 and get it installed, im at the point where i need to make that prefrences file but i dont know how
[08:00] <xnoff> justin: kismet
[08:00] <makaveli0129> happyfool: no i haven't tried pressing alt f2 at the install screen i will try that right now
[08:00] <schlomo> Fabian : ok I will check
[08:00] <schlomo> Fabian : thanks
[08:00] <HappyFool> makaveli0129: ah-ha!
[08:00] <xnoff> justin: I don't think they have a package
[08:00] <HappyFool> makaveli0129: according to this page: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/ReleaseNotes504/document_view   -- there's a rescue mode in the install process
[08:01] <mjr> GNULinuxer, see topic
[08:01] <Fabian> schlomo, for further help try google: ipw2200 ubuntu
[08:01] <xnoff> HappyFool: what do I need to install?
[08:01] <justin> xnoff: something wrong with the kismet package that you already have?
[08:01] <xnoff> I don't have a kismet package
[08:01] <justin> xnoff: yes you do
[08:01] <xnoff> where?
[08:01] <HappyFool> xnoff: kismet is in hoary universe. not that i know what kismet is ;)
[08:02] <HappyFool> makaveli0129: when you boot the install CD, can you see a 'rescue' option of any sort
[08:02] <magog> will someone help me?
[08:02] <dr_willis> magog,  depends on the question.
[08:02] <Razor-X> hmmmm
[08:02] <xnoff> justin: for powerpc too?
[08:02] <Razor-X> what's wrong with LaTeX?
[08:02] <xnoff> oops sorry that was for happyfool
[08:02] <magog> im trying to follow http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20216&page=1&pp=10 and get it installed, im at the point where i need to make that prefrences file but i dont know how
[08:03] <Fabian> can anyone explain me a little part of /etc/network/interfaces ???
[08:03] <HappyFool> xnoff: not a clue, sorry
[08:03] <Razor-X> well, first of all, is us.archive.ubuntu down?
[08:03] <HappyFool> xnoff: you have searched for it in synaptic (or using apt-cache), haven't you?
[08:03] <makaveli0129> happyfool: i don't have that distro of ubuntu
[08:03] <HappyFool> xnoff: and you do have 'universe' enabled
[08:03] <HappyFool> makaveli0129: doh
[08:03] <HappyFool> makaveli0129: ok, let's try the Alt-F2 thing then
[08:03] <magog> i need to make a few files, but in the file browser i dont have permissions and im confused, i know i have to do it from the commandline but i dont know how,  know its noobish but ide appreciate the help
[08:03] <raptoid> hi dudes..
[08:03] <raptoid> help me..
[08:03] <justin> xnoff: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=kismet
[08:03] <raptoid> raptoid@ubuntu:~$ sudo -s
[08:03] <raptoid> sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0644, should be 0440
[08:03] <Razor-X> magog: gtksu gedit /etc/apt/preferences
[08:03] <raptoid> raptoid@ubuntu:~$ sudo -s -H
[08:03] <basti__> hello
[08:03] <FR500> hello
[08:03] <raptoid> sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0644, should be 0440
[08:03] <raptoid> raptoid@ubuntu:~$
[08:04] <raptoid> ?
[08:04] <raptoid> raptoid@ubuntu:~$ sudo -s -H
[08:04] <raptoid> sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0644, should be 0440
[08:04] <raptoid> ?
[08:04] <basti__> can someone help me to get my 5.1 NVidia SOund to run?
[08:04] <raptoid> help me
[08:04] <FR500> so gdesklets don't work for me in ubuntu, andy ideas on why?
[08:04] <justin> raptoid: /etc/sudoers is mode 0644, should be 0440
[08:04] <djm62> raptoid: we all saw the first time....
[08:04] <Razor-X> justin: and how would you edit that without sudo access, hmmm?
[08:04] <raptoid> i dont no
[08:04] <raptoid> ?
[08:04] <Razor-X> ;)
[08:04] <djm62> boot from livecd
[08:04] <Razor-X> yeah, or a floppy distro
[08:04] <magog> Razor-X, command not found
[08:04] <Fabian> how do i deactivate, that stupid clock syncronizing with some ubuntu server????
[08:04] <HappyFool> or in rescue mode ;)
[08:05] <xnoff> LOL
[08:05] <xnoff> ok I found it
[08:05] <xnoff> pardon my ignorance
[08:05] <raptoid> help meee
[08:05] <djm62> raptoid: do you have the ubuntu livecd?
[08:05] <Razor-X> magog: don't you know the gtk sudo command?
[08:05] <reka> Arakn0: iirc, you can do an install with floppies (i'm not certain though).  best option is to just buy a $5 drive.
[08:05] <reka> Razor-X: are you asking?
[08:05] <reka> magog: sudo gedit /etc/apt/preferences
[08:05] <goye2cz> checking again, anyone have any success with installing a tascam us122?
[08:05] <raptoid> djm62, no
[08:05] <xnoff> HappyFool: that's ok, but I just got an md5sum error...
[08:05] <djm62> raptoid: any livecd?
[08:05] <HappyFool> xnoff: us archives are broken
[08:05] <Razor-X> reka: i'm asking about Ubuntu's downtime, it seems
[08:05] <raptoid> no
[08:05] <xnoff> HappyFool: does this mean I have to manually instlal that componant
[08:05] <raptoid> djm62, no
[08:05] <xnoff> HappyFool: so use a foreign one?
[08:05] <HappyFool> xnoff: in /etc/apt/sources.list, change us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com
[08:05] <chombee> all I get is "usb-storage: device found at 2", can't figure the device name to use
[08:06] <xnoff> HappyFool: thanks
[08:06] <reka> Razor-X: ah, yeah i think us.archive has been sporadic
[08:06] <chombee> it's using SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage
[08:06] <raptoid> help me
[08:06] <basti__> no idea?
[08:06] <HappyFool> raptoid: boot into rescue mode and change the permissions of /etc/sudoers
[08:06] <magog> ok how do you make one like that but specifying the file extension...for instance the .dekstop i need to make
[08:06] <Fabian> how do i deactivate, that stupid clock syncronizing with some ubuntu server????
[08:06] <HappyFool> raptoid: chmod 600 /etc/sudoers
[08:07] <raptoid> "chmod 0440"
[08:07] <raptoid> ?
[08:07] <raptoid> ok HappyFool
[08:07] <HappyFool> raptoid: sorry
[08:07] <djm62> raptoid: yeah 0440
[08:07] <HappyFool> raptoid: you were right
[08:07] <raptoid> ok thanks
[08:07] <djm62> raptoid: you happy enough to get into rescue mode?
[08:07] <HappyFool> makaveli0129: you getting anywhere?
[08:07] <reka> magog: fyi, linux doesn't need extensions.  to put one, just name the file with the extension e.g. "file.ext"
[08:07] <chx> I have changed the control file for a .deb , how could I rebuild it?
[08:08] <Fabian> how do i deactivate, that stupid clock syncronizing with some ubuntu server????
[08:08] <HappyFool> Fabian: please don't repeat your question quite so often
[08:08] <richard> I'm getting an MD5sum mismatch off an 'apt-get install mbmon' from the us mirror.  Is this a US mirror problem?
[08:08] <magog> ok, so do it in text editor like anything else than save as and name it the .extension i need?
[08:08] <reka> Fabian: right-click ->adjust?
[08:08] <Fabian> HappyFool, i want it to stop!!! ;)
[08:08] <reka> magog: yep
[08:09] <magog> ty, i appreciate your patience with my stupid questions
[08:09] <bob2> richard: yes
[08:09] <caonex> how can i install ubuntu from a .iso in a partition other than the root will be one?
[08:09] <bob2> dont use it
[08:09] <reka> magog: you're learning, it's acceptable.
[08:09] <magog> at least im learning, i learn new stuff every day that makes me love linux more and more
[08:09] <bob2> caonex: you can't install from a .iso on disk
[08:09] <magog> reka, yup
[08:09] <reka> magog: that's a good approach :-)
[08:10] <raz> Anyone got K3B working under ubuntu?
[08:10] <bob2> lots of people have
[08:10] <Fabian> reka: as far as i can see everythings deactivated.... but it still keeps syncronising at the startup
[08:10] <xnoff> HappyFool: so my app installed... how do I open it now?
[08:10] <Rockett17> I installed it by enabling the root account>> installing it>> running the root set-up and then disabling the root set-up
[08:10] <Rockett17> root account^
[08:10] <HappyFool> xnoff: never used kismet ;)
[08:10] <xnoff> HappyFool: should it be in the menu though?
[08:10] <raz> bob2, so it's not only for KDE?
[08:11] <HappyFool> xnoff: you can find out what files it's installed using synaptic
[08:11] <HappyFool> xnoff: some apps appear there, some don't
[08:11] <HappyFool> xnoff: at a guess, try starting a terminal, and type kismet<Enter>
[08:11] <chombee> Any know a good channel I should join for support with USB devices?
[08:11] <HappyFool> chombee: what device is it?
[08:12] <reka> Fabian: hmm.  i'm not certain if this is actually what you want, but you could do this to disable it: http://ubuntuguide.org/#synchronizingclocktooslow
[08:12] <Shachaf> Well, I'm booting to the Ubuntu live CD to see if the networking will work there. If it does, what would the relevant settings be that I should use in my Ubuntu installation?
[08:12] <chombee> HappyFool - 3.5" external HD enclosure, bytetec ME-740
[08:12] <vladuz976> hey there, is it true that ubuntu disables root by default?
[08:12] <Rockett17> yes
[08:12] <reka> Fabian: it might also be that you've enabled UTC in the clock prefs.
[08:12] <chombee> vladuz976 - yes, it uses sudo
[08:12] <Shachaf> vladuz976: Yes.
[08:12] <Shachaf> vladuz976: You can use sudo, though.
[08:13] <HappyFool> chombee: and what ubuntu are you running ? 5.04 (hoary) ? on a conventional intel/amd pc ?
[08:13] <reka> Fabian: disregard my last comment :-) UTC is unix time
[08:13] <chombee> HappyFool - yes
[08:13] <magog> ive done everything flawlessly like told from http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20216&page=1&pp=10 BUT i cant connect to deb http://soulmachine.net/debian unstable/ which is the repository that has DR17
[08:13] <chombee> well, an IBM laptop
[08:13] <djm62> Universal Time Central...from the french
[08:13] <reka> actually, no it's not ... i was right the first tmime
[08:13] <djm62> because greenwich mean time is too parochial
[08:14] <HappyFool> chombee: and it's not auto-mounted when you plug it in?
[08:14] <trillian> I downloaded and decompressed build-essential but I don't think it's installed.  Forgive me, I'm new at this.
[08:14] <djm62> (and we all know, earth is at the centre of the universe ;) )
[08:14] <vladuz976> i heard you can't browse files in nautilus and stuff
[08:14] <chombee> HappyFool - no, doesn't seem to be, I don't see it anywhere
[08:14] <HappyFool> trillian: you should need to download and decompress it -- just apt-get install it
[08:14] <magog> can anyone else connect to deb http://soulmachine.net/debian unstable/ maybe im doing it wrong......or maybe theres another repo
[08:14] <Shachaf> vladuz976: What do you mean?
[08:14] <reka> a female in #ubuntu.  that's a rare sight.
[08:14] <djm62> trillian: did you manually download it, rather than using a package tool?
[08:14] <HappyFool> trillian: should *not* need to
[08:14] <HappyFool> chombee: hrm
[08:14] <Shachaf> vladuz976: What would be the point if you couldn't?
[08:14] <djm62> trillian: apt-get install build-essential
[08:15] <HappyFool> chombee: ok, let's try mounting it manually
[08:15] <djm62> reka: not that rare...
[08:15] <HappyFool> chombee: let me just plug in my memory stick and see where it appears ....
[08:15] <chombee> HappyFool - dmesg and /var/log/messages seem to show the device being detected, but not mounted, and no device name
[08:15] <reka> djm62: really? can you name others?
[08:15] <squinn> Question of convience for #ubuntu.
[08:15] <HappyFool> chombee: it'll probably be /dev/sda1 or something
[08:15] <vladuz976> in #fedora they tell me those things
[08:15] <trillian> HappyFool: I already dl'd in manually.  apt-get install... I can ruin that from the command prompt?
[08:15] <djm62> reka: honestly, I don't keep track....not my bag ;)
[08:15] <vladuz976>  iwas  considering ubuntu
[08:16] <HappyFool> trillian: yip
[08:16] <trillian> HappyFool: run, even
[08:16] <squinn> Uh, everytime I need to boot my computer up, I need to login then type "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" and "sudo ifup wlan0" to start web
[08:16] <squinn> is there an easier way to have those commands performed on boot?
[08:16] <HappyFool> Triffid_Hunter: see what djm62 said earlier. 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[08:16] <chombee> HappyFool - Unable to open /dev/sda
[08:16] <bob2> squinn: so, put ndiswrapper in /etc/modules
[08:16] <reka> djm62: :-)  i didn't mean it that way...
[08:16] <squinn> ah ok
[08:16] <Fabian> reka, what exactly disables "sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/service_name" ???? In the document you pointed out, it just sais "disable boot-up service"
[08:17] <djm62> Triffid_Hunter: also, apt-get build-dep packagename
[08:17] <reka> Fabian: i'd first see if you've enabled UTC in the clock's prefs.
[08:17] <HappyFool> chombee: /dev/sda1, not /dev/sda -- and you need to mount it (err, maybe you know how to mount devices?)
[08:17] <squinn> okay, bob2 ..but after i do that, how can i get boot to "ifup wlan0"?
[08:17] <trillian> HappyFool: blimey that was easy. deleting weird crap I did previously.... thanks ^_^
[08:17] <Xosgyz> Anyone have any experience setting up LVM on initial installation?
[08:17] <Fabian> reka, nope i haven't
[08:17] <djm62> Triffid_Hunter: ie, if you have a gnome/gtk package to build, apt-get build-dep gaim would probably get most of what you need....
[08:17] <reka> Fabian: topic title: "Synchronizing clock to ntp.ubuntulinux.org"
[08:18] <chombee> HappyFool -  I was trying to use fdisk to see what partitions are on the device, I can't try to mount it without the partition name
[08:18] <HappyFool> trillian: fwiw, build-essential is just a fake package which depends on gcc, g++ and make (possibly others)
[08:18] <HappyFool> chombee: hrm, good idea
[08:18] <HappyFool> chombee: did you sudo ?
[08:18] <HappyFool> chombee: 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda' ?
[08:18] <chombee> HappyFool - sudo fdisk /dev/sda
[08:18] <trillian> HappyFool: Then I may have to do something further.  I'll see if thsi does what I need itto.
[08:19] <vladuz976> hey do you guys think ubuntu is a good distro for me as a newbie?
[08:19] <chombee> HappyFool - with -l it gives no output
[08:19] <HappyFool> chombee: sub-optimal
[08:19] <mdke> vladuz976, we are biased, but yes
[08:19] <djm62> vladuz976: yeah...
[08:19] <Seveas> gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooodevening #ubuntu!
[08:19] <mdke> greetings
[08:19] <HappyFool> chombee: how many files do you see if you do ls -l /dev/sd?     ?
[08:19] <Seveas> </robin williams>
[08:19] <HappyFool> (the ? is part of the command ;)
[08:19] <vladuz976> mdke, yes biased, but seriously is it userfriendly?
[08:20] <chombee> HappyFool - No such file or directory
[08:20] <mdke> vladuz976, extremely. I am not aware of any that are easier to use :)
[08:20] <HappyFool> chombee: um
[08:20] <Seveas> vladuz976, yes, very userfriendly and newbie-friendly
[08:20] <HappyFool> chombee: so /dev/sda doesn't even exist ?
[08:20] <metzen> im not biased (i dont use ubuntu), and i say it would be a great place to start
[08:20] <vladuz976> mdke, mandrake?
[08:20] <mdke> vladuz976, also the community is good and there is plenty of help
[08:20] <dr_willis> userfriendly = a term that means very little these days
[08:20] <Soft-ware> hey all
[08:20] <dr_willis> :P
[08:20] <mdke> vladuz976, i haven't used mandrake much
[08:20] <Soft-ware> does anyone have a working apt-get source.list
[08:20] <raptoid> raptoid@ubuntu:~$ sudo -s -H
[08:20] <raptoid> Password:
[08:20] <raptoid> raptoid is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[08:20] <dr_willis> ubuntu's homepage and wiki and channels do have some VERY good docs and advice.
[08:20] <raptoid> help me
[08:20] <mdke> vladuz976, but the best thing with linux is to pick a good distro, then stick with it, and you learn :)
[08:20] <raptoid> offf
[08:20] <Seveas> Soft-ware, paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[08:21] <vladuz976> mdke, can all the dbian apy get be used
[08:21] <infralite> hello, is it possible to upgrade from 4.10 to the current stable version?
[08:21] <HappyFool> chombee: if you do 'cat /proc/scsi/scsi', do you see an 'Attached devices' line ?
[08:21] <djm62> raptoid: has someone messed with your system?
[08:21] <Seveas> vladuz976, with care...
[08:21] <bob2> raptoid: login as the first user who was created during the install
[08:21] <Soft-ware> Seveas, what is this?
[08:21] <reka> infralite: yep, someone has the onle-line update...
[08:21] <bob2> raptoid: then run 'sudo adduser raptoid admin'
[08:21] <Seveas> Soft-ware, that is a url to a working sources.list
[08:21] <mdke> vladuz976, you can't use all the debian packages, but the apt system is the same yes
[08:21] <Xosgyz> Is it possible to setp LVM from the installation CD?
[08:21] <reka> *one-line
[08:21] <bob2> infralite: of course
[08:21] <Shachaf> Hmm. Neither Ubuntu nor its live CD recognize my eepro100, even though other distributions do.
[08:21] <vladuz976> mdke, so so ubuntu is a good one to pick? how long has it been for you?
[08:21] <Soft-ware> oh ok gracias amigo
[08:21] <infralite> ah, online update?
[08:21] <chombee> HappyFool - doesn't look like /dev/sda exists
[08:21] <bob2> Shachaf: e100 is the driver it would use
[08:21] <bob2> infralite: or from the hoary cd
[08:21] <infralite> no need to download cd?
[08:21] <mdke> vladuz976, about 6 months i guess
[08:22] <infralite> hmm
[08:22] <bob2> infralite: of course
[08:22] <mdke> hey bob2
[08:22] <Seveas> infralite, only 1 cd: to install it :)
[08:22] <HappyFool> chombee: so i see. to repeat from earlier: if you do 'cat /proc/scsi/scsi', do you see an 'Attached devices' line ?
[08:22] <infralite> hehe
[08:22] <Seveas> but after that it's infinetly updtaable via internet
[08:22] <Shachaf> bob2: I know.
[08:22] <mdke> bob2, you were helping me with my debian system the other day, glad to say that it is now workind :D
[08:22] <mdke> d/g
[08:22] <Shachaf> bob2: I tried both eepro100 and e100.
[08:22] <infralite> ah, i thought that old versions would become unsupported
[08:22] <chombee> HappyFool '$ cat /proc/scsi/scsi' gives 'Attached devices:'
[08:22] <Shachaf> bob2: With DHCP and static IP.
[08:23] <HappyFool> chombee: is that it?
[08:23] <Soft-ware> Seveas, well man there is 2 source.list listed there which one i take the first one or the second one?
[08:23] <djm62> infralite: they do eventually....but I think hoary has until 2006 at the earliest
[08:23] <HappyFool> chombee: i mean, does it list any devices there ?
[08:23] <chombee> HappyFool - yeah, looks like no scsi devices
[08:23] <infralite> would i upgrade through synaptic or apt?
[08:23] <Fabian> reka, there is no service_name in my /etc/init.d
[08:23] <HappyFool> chombee: suboptimal
[08:23] <Seveas> Soft-ware, hehe, you never used a pastebin right?
[08:23] <infralite> or is there another means?
[08:23] <Seveas> Soft-ware, take the first one
[08:24] <Fabian> hi Seveas
[08:24] <Seveas> hi Fabian
[08:24] <chombee> HappyFool - i see this in dmesg: scsi1 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
[08:24] <Fabian> got my wlan card up and running! :D
[08:24] <reka> Fabian: see the topic links before that line? http://ubuntuguide.org/#permanentlydisableenableboot-upservices
[08:24] <Seveas> great!
[08:24] <djm62> infralite: you would need to change your sources.list, then apt-get dist-upgrade, and that's that
[08:24] <Soft-ware> Seveas, thanks dude and no i never used the pastebin hehe sorry
[08:24] <mdke> Seveas, btw, there is also http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ExampleConffiles for model sources.lists :D
[08:24] <infralite> ah
[08:24] <Seveas> mdke, thanks, didn't know that one yet
[08:25] <djm62> infralite: when breezy is released, there will be clear instructions on how to update on the web, telling you what to change
[08:25] <reka> Fabian: actually, you might want to ask Seveas.  i'm not completely sure if that will fix your prob.
[08:25] <Fabian> reka, yep see that one! can't chmod it if there is no such thing as /etc/init.d/service_name
[08:25] <mdke> Fabian, that is a bad way to disable boot services
[08:25] <infralite> djm62: then onto hoary for now
[08:25] <HappyFool> chombee: can you put the output of dmesg up here: http://rafb.net/paste/
[08:25] <Seveas> fabbione, what are you trying to do?
[08:25] <djm62> infralite: I'm using it...it's good :)
[08:25] <HappyFool> chombee: tell me the URL when you're done
[08:25] <infralite> djm62: lol
[08:25] <Fabian> alright then: Seveas, how do i disable that clock syncronizing with some ubuntu server on boot-up?
[08:26] <mdke> Fabian, there is a program that you can install if you wish to disable boot services, it is called Bootup Manager, you can find it on the forums
[08:26] <Fabian> mdke: what's the better way?
[08:26] <infralite> i'm happy with ubuntu too, no need to convince me :)
[08:26] <mdke> Fabian, otherwise, just uninstall ntpdate
[08:26] <HappyFool> chombee: i googled for your drive model and got 0 hits -- you said it's a bytetec ME-740 ?
[08:26] <Seveas> Fabian, chmod 000 /etc/init.d/ntpdate
[08:26] <reka> Fabian: you replace "service_name" with the service you are trying to disable. in this case, it's "ntpdate"
[08:26] <Fabian> reka, ah i see! :D
[08:26] <reka> Fabian: you've just learnt the shortcomings of ubguide!
[08:26] <FR500> reka, why not using BUM?
[08:26] <infralite> djm62: so dist-upgrade doesn't exist for now?
[08:26] <mdke> this method of disabling boot services is against debian policy
[08:26] <mdke> Seveas, reka ^^
[08:27] <Fabian> reka, i reckon I'm pretty fast learning! I got ubuntu since three days and never used linux before! :D
[08:27] <djm62> infralite: dist-upgrade exists, and you are free to use breezy, but it isn't recommended
[08:27] <HappyFool> mdke: please teach us the true way, oh master :-)
[08:27] <reka> FR500: probably cos i have no idea what it is. L-/
[08:27] <Seveas> mdke, yeah, update-rc.d is the preferred way :)
[08:27] <Seveas> update-rc.d ntpdate remove
[08:27] <mdke> Fabian, you can get a nice program to do it, here: http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html
[08:27] <mdke> yeah that way is good too
[08:27] <infralite> djm62: hmm, but can't i get a dst-upgrade for hoary? i'm using an earlier version
[08:28] <FR500> reka, it's a graphical too for doing that
[08:28] <infralite> *dist
[08:28] <chombee> HappyFool - http://rafb.net/paste/results/oHTXyG26.html I couldn't find any Linux stuff about it on google, hold on
[08:28] <mdke> HappyFool, i'm not being anal, it is just not recommended
[08:28] <reka> FR500: ah, cheers.
[08:28] <raz> Anyone knows how to change the font of K3B?..
[08:28] <djm62> infralite: oh, yeah...look on the wiki for warty->hoary instructions, and be prepared for some downloading
[08:28] <HappyFool> mdke: sorry, i meant that semi-seriously
[08:28] <HappyFool> mdke: as in, what do you recommend
[08:28] <mdke> HappyFool, see the introduction section at http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bumdocs.html
[08:28] <infralite> djm62: ah, ok. thanks :D that was all i wanted
[08:28] <Fabian> Seveas, i just did chomd it. So that's bad? what else instead?
[08:29] <chombee> HappyFool - Bytecc ME-740
[08:29] <Seveas> chombee, /dev/sdb doesn't work?
[08:29] <basti__> hello, I have Ubuntu with ESD Sound as Standartm is that normal?
[08:29] <Seveas> Fabian, chown isn't that bad
[08:29] <chombee> Seveas - no, nor sdc, sdd
[08:29] <mdke> Fabian, that has some bad effects, but if in the future you want it to work, and have problems with it, just reinstall ntpdate
[08:29] <Seveas> Fabian, the official way is update-rc.d ntpdate remove
[08:29] <chombee> Seveas - I did sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[08:29] <HappyFool> Seveas: he doesn't have any /dev/sd? files
[08:29] <Seveas> chombee, just du sudo fdisk -l
[08:30] <Fabian> Seveas, where is the difference?
[08:30] <djm62> infralite: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HoaryUpgradeNotes
[08:30] <infralite> ah, you're fater than me :P
[08:30] <Seveas> Fabian, fdisk -l will list *all* available partitions
[08:30] <infralite> *faster
[08:30] <mdke> Fabian, it is explained here: http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bumdocs.html
[08:30] <HappyFool> Seveas: wow. didn't know that
[08:30] <HappyFool> Seveas: also, /proc/scsi/scsi doesn't list any 'attached devices'
[08:30] <Seveas> hmm
[08:31] <Seveas> usb_storage is loaded?
[08:31] <chombee> Seveas - all I got is hda1,2,5,6. Strangely hda2 is 'W96 Ext'd (LBA)'. Bizarre
[08:31] <HappyFool> Seveas: yeah, see http://rafb.net/paste/results/oHTXyG26.html
[08:31] <Seveas> basti__, yes, ESD is standard
[08:31] <basti__> Seveas, my 5.1 Sound doesn work
[08:31] <basti__> only stereo
[08:31] <Seveas> chombee, that's not bizarre
[08:31] <HappyFool> chombee: it's just an extended partition -- 5 and 6 are elements of that extended partition
[08:31] <Fabian> Seveas, i get en error message when doint "update-rc.d ntpdate remove"
[08:32] <mdke> Fabian, that is because you did the chmod
[08:32] <Seveas> basti__, look at wiki.ubuntu.com , go to HoarySoundProblems
[08:32] <chombee> Seveas, happyFool - but why the win?
[08:32] <Fabian> mdke, how to undo?
[08:32] <HappyFool> chombee: dunno. it doesn't matter ;) cos it's not helping you find your usb drive
[08:32] <Seveas> chombee, that's how fdisk calls extended partitions
[08:32] <Seveas> Fabian, which error?
[08:32] <basti__> okay
[08:33] <peter2> i have a problem installing an upgrade for firefox through smart upgrade synaptic
[08:33] <chombee> HappyFool, Seveas - okay. I just thought it was suspicous. I tried mounting that partition earlier, not good
[08:33] <mdke> Fabian, you need to change the permissions back.
[08:33] <Seveas> chombee, can you see the device with lshw?
[08:33] <mdke> Fabian, but it is probably easier to leave it now
[08:33] <Seveas> and lsusb?
[08:33] <anacron> would somebody help me install stepmania?
[08:33] <Fabian> Seveas, update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/ntpdate exists during rc.d purg (use -f to force)
[08:33] <Seveas> hmm, ah stupid me
[08:33] <Razor-X> I don't think there's any hard in removing your deb cache, is there?
[08:33] <Seveas> remove doesn't work...
[08:33] <Fabian> what else?
[08:33] <Seveas> you have to give it a different argument
[08:33] <peter2> can someone have a look at this ?
[08:34] <Seveas> that's why I always do the chmod trick :D
[08:34] <peter2> W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libc/libcairo/libcairo1_0.3.0-1_i386.deb
[08:34] <peter2>   MD5Sum mismatch
[08:34] <Razor-X> *anything wrong
[08:34] <anacron> peter2: topic
[08:34] <Seveas> peter2, look at the topic
[08:34] <Seveas> peter2: To switch to a working mirror type the following:  sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update
[08:34] <mdke> is that problem in the topic?
[08:34] <Seveas> Razor-X, apt-get clean will clean it out for you
[08:34] <anacron> Seveas: have you binded button for that :D
[08:34] <peter2> tx
[08:34] <mdke> aha
[08:34] <Fabian> Seveas, so what do i do now?
[08:34] <concept10> Seveas, I come from a Red Hat based world.  How do I list my services in the current run level.  No ckconfig...
[08:34] <Seveas> anacron, for the sed thing: yes
[08:34] <anacron> :D
[08:35] <anacron> it was just too fast
[08:35] <Seveas> concept10, ls /etc/rc2.d/S*
[08:35] <mdke> concept10, there is no tool sadly
[08:36] <Seveas> Fabian, well, since you did the chmod trick already: nothing :)
[08:36] <wulfepup> Ok.. so i followed the instructions in the wiki for sound (Restricted Formats) so that I'd be able to use mp3 and dvd ....but the ALSA and the OSS still give me an error when I test it. (after a reboot)
[08:36] <mdke> concept10, but you can install a gui frontend which helps: http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html
[08:36] <Fabian> Seveas, how would i set back the permissions?
[08:36] <chombee> Seveas - I see a couple of things, my USB bus with driver=uhci_hcd, a scsi with configuration: driver=usb-storage, logical name scsi1
[08:36] <Fabian> chmod +x /etc/inti.d/ntpdate???
[08:36] <Seveas> Fabian, chmod 744 /etc/init.d/ntpdate
[08:36] <anacron> hey anyone, stepmania guide for me?
[08:37] <concept10> mdke, I will be working with Amarath to help port the Fedora tool over to ubuntu
[08:37] <sniff> hi does anybody know which ports gaim uses to recieve files
[08:37] <Fabian> Seveas, and then the other remove-thing would work?
[08:37] <mdke> concept10, you don't like that frontend?
[08:37] <Seveas> Fabian, no
[08:37] <wulfepup> "Failed to construct pipeline blah blah"
[08:37] <chombee> Seveas - man lshw says that the command does not detect USB or firewire devices
[08:37] <djm62> sniff: depends on the protocol, I think...
[08:37] <Seveas> the remove thing will not work at all
[08:37] <Fabian> Seveas, lol... ;)
[08:38] <Dilkes> i have just installed ubuntu on my pc and  was looking for an achitectural drawing progam ,does any one have any ideas
[08:38] <sniff> where did i find that protocol?
[08:38] <HappyFool> chombee: yeah, but evidently it detects scsi devices (which is how linux is seeing your usb drive)
[08:38] <concept10> mdke, BUM?
[08:38] <djm62> sniff: live up to your name...creative use of netstat ;)
[08:38] <chombee> Seveas - it also says virtual SCSI interfaces for USB mass storage are not detected properly
[08:38] <mdke> concept10, yes
[08:38] <anacron> Dilkes: gentoofiles.org, there's a plenty of good software
[08:38] <Seveas> Fabian, update-rc.d -f remove ntpdate
[08:38] <Seveas> Fabian, that'll work
[08:38] <djm62> sniff: the protocols are mostly proprietary and undocumented, sadly
[08:38] <concept10> mdke, you wrote that?
[08:39] <mdke> concept10, no
[08:39] <concept10> mdke, I havent used it yet.  Can it restart services?
[08:39] <HappyFool> what's with these ubuntu app names. bum and smeg. eish ;)
[08:39] <mdke> concept10, sure
[08:39] <Fabian> Seveas, and that is the proper way to do?
[08:39] <mdke> concept10, i think ;)
[08:39] <Seveas> Fabian, yes
[08:40] <mdke> concept10, if not, i'm sure it would not be difficult to add that functionality
[08:40] <djm62> smeg...perfectly respectable brand ;)
[08:40] <mark> buenasd
[08:40] <mark> :_p
[08:40] <peter2> seveas, what does the line do you gave a while ago ?
[08:40] <Seveas> HappyFool, the ubutu folks didn't make up these names
[08:40] <anatole> anyone knows What is the location of the directory of C header files  ?
[08:40] <KarlosII> rotflol
[08:40] <HappyFool> Seveas: i guessed as much ;)
[08:40] <anatole> vmware install is asking
[08:40] <KarlosII> http://ak.bluestreak.com//adv/msuml/%5E4765/%5E266678/Linux_711_336x280.swf?clickTag=http%3A%2F%2Fadserver%2Eadtech%2Ede%3A80%2Fadlink%7C340%7C114446%7C1%7C171%7CAdId%3D329570%3BBnId%3D1%3Bitime%3D687944724%3Bku%3D251006%3Bkey%3Dbottom%3Bnodecode%3Dyes%3Blink%3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fs0b%2Ebluestreak%2Ecom%2Fix%2Ee%3Ftr%26s%3D363304%26a%3D266678%26u%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww%252Emicrosoft%252Ecom%252Fuk%252Fgetthefacts%252Fdefault%252Emspx
[08:40] <Seveas> peter2, it'll make you switch to a good ubuntu mirror
[08:41] <KarlosII> oops
[08:41] <Fabian> Seveas, ya sure it's not update-rc.d -f ntpdate remove?
[08:41] <KarlosII> sry
[08:41] <Seveas> KarlosII, use tinyurl man :)
[08:41] <Seveas> Fabian, i said that :)
[08:41] <anatole> /usr/src/linux/include is the default but they are not there
[08:41] <Fabian> Seveas, nope you changed remove and ntpdate! ;)
[08:41] <Seveas> anatole, aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[08:42] <chombee> HappyFool, Seveas - do you think I need to mount scsi1? I think the device probably has multiple partitions, but fdisk finds nothing on /dev/scsi or /dev/scsi1
[08:42] <Seveas> Fabian, ah mixup :|
[08:42] <Dilkes> anacron I tried gentoofiles.org. Is there a typo in the name? It doesn't come up.
[08:42] <wulfepup> Ok.. so i followed the instructions in the wiki for sound (Restricted Formats) so that I'd be able to use mp3 and dvd ....but the ALSA and the OSS still give me an error when I test it. (after a reboot) "Failed to construct pipeline blah blah"
[08:42] <Fabian> Seveas, yep! ;) needs sudo, right?
[08:42] <HappyFool> chombee: i think that 'scsi1' is an internal name only
[08:42] <Seveas> wulfepup, Ubuntu uses esd, not raw also or deprecated oss
[08:42] <mark> que onda
[08:42] <Seveas> Fabian, of course :)
[08:42] <mark> hablen alguna wea
[08:42] <mark> :p
[08:42] <Seveas> mark, english please
[08:43] <Fabian> done
[08:43] <mark> OK
[08:43] <peter2> do i need to do this all the time now ?
[08:43] <mark>  hi
[08:43] <Seveas> peter2, no just this once
[08:43] <wulfepup> Seveas: Yes, I'm aware of that.. but the wiki has details for enabling the others, since some apps use them...
[08:43] <djm62> mark: espanol? there is #ubuntu-es if you prefer :)
[08:43] <anatole> KarlosII: but wtf
[08:43] <wulfepup> So I followed the instructions to find no change
[08:43] <iggy_> hello i have a question can i intall a lamp on a ubuntu desktop envoirment
[08:43] <moparfan90> anyone use fedora core 4??
[08:43] <Seveas> wulfepup, if you want to use raw also, you should disable esd
[08:43] <peter2> Thanks Seveas, you been a great help these last days for me :)
[08:43] <anatole> isn't negative advertisement illegal?
[08:44] <Seveas> moparfan90, look at the channel name...
[08:44] <wulfepup> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[08:44] <djm62> Seveas: is dmix derecommended?
[08:44] <Seveas> oh yes, and i am forced to uce FC at work. I hate it
[08:44] <HappyFool> iggy_: sure. just be careful not to knock it over. screwing the lamp into the case might help
[08:44] <Seveas> djm62, in fact dmix will be the default for breezy
[08:44] <iggy_> :D
[08:44] <djm62> anatole: not if it poses as research...
[08:44] <moparfan90> i know. just wanted to know if any tried it.
[08:44] <ubotu> ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT has landed!
[08:45] <raz> -_-
[08:45] <Seveas> iggy_, sudo aptitude install libapache2-mod-php4 mysql-server
[08:45] <anacron> Dilkes: try google
[08:45] <Dilkes> i have just installed ubuntu on my pc and  was looking for an achitectural drawing progam ,does any one have any ideas?
[08:45] <djm62> Seveas: ah, good...one more thing I can forget how to do in linux ;)
[08:45] <iggy_> then i am gonna folllow the lamp wiki for aubuntu server
[08:45] <HappyFool> iggy_: apache2, mysql and php (or python / perl) are all available via synaptic
[08:45] <sniff> hi does anybody know which ports gaim for files uses
[08:45] <Stew2> I'm trying to help a friend out.... I was hoping for more :)
[08:45] <djm62> Stew2: specifically architecture?
[08:45] <anatole> oic
[08:46] <Fabian> Seveas, is there a good antivirus for linux which is free?
[08:46] <Seveas> Fabian, clamav
[08:46] <djm62> Stew2: there are some structured drawing programs, and some CAD tools, and 3d modellers
[08:46] <anatole> antivirus? an antivirus is needed for linux?
[08:46] <chombee> Seveas - lshw is sort of cool, doesn't the Device Manager do the same thing though?
[08:46] <Fabian> Seveas, clamav? is that a package included in ubuntu?
[08:46] <djm62> Stew2: but I think architecture is as yet unfilled :-/
[08:46] <anacron> how many viruses there is for linux?
[08:46] <Seveas> anatole, well, if you run a mailserver and wnat to provide a service to windows-running clients :)
[08:47] <anatole> :D
[08:47] <Seveas> Fabian, no idea, never tried to use it
[08:47] <anacron> :D
[08:47] <anatole> :D
[08:47] <Seveas> anacron, some...
[08:47] <anacron> Seveas: good point
[08:47] <Fabian> Seveas, lol, what do you use?
[08:47] <HappyFool> anacron: 12, i think. mcafee has a list
[08:47] <Seveas> Fabian, good sense
[08:47] <Seveas> so no antivirus
[08:47] <anacron> HappyFool: ok, but isn't those that kind you have to execute them yourself before they start working?
[08:47] <anacron> kind of*
[08:48] <HappyFool> anacron: not a clue
[08:48] <anatole> Seveas: i installed the package... what is the location for them?
[08:48] <Fabian> Seveas, there are several packages with clamav in there name in synaptic, and one actually called clamav
[08:48] <anatole> vmware still can't find it
[08:48] <Stew2> djm62, anacron THanks!
[08:48] <Seveas> anatole, then mke the symlink yourself
[08:48] <dooglus> peter2: are you there?
[08:48] <peter2> yes i am
[08:48] <Fabian> anyone knows about clamav?
[08:49] <peter2> whats up ?
[08:49] <Mahl> ugh easy fast question...i managed to mess up the gnome panel menus...whats the command for getting the theme manager up
[08:49] <djm62> Stew2: http://www.tenlinks.com/CAD/products/LINUX.HTM
[08:49] <thotypous> Mahl, gnome-theme-manager
[08:49] <Amaranth> Mahl: gnome-theme-manager? :)
[08:49] <peter2> dooglus ?
[08:49] <Mahl> ofcourse
[08:49] <raz> Anyone knows how to change the font of K3B under ubuntu/gnome?
[08:49] <djm62> Stew2: looks like I typed too soon...there are some mentioned there
[08:49] <Mahl> is there any way i can reinstall the old menus...?
[08:49] <Fabian> Seveas, is that ClamAv AntiVirus Server?????
[08:50] <Amaranth> Mahl: sudo apt-get --reinstall install gnome-menus
[08:50] <Seveas> Fabian, apt-cache search clamav
[08:50] <Seveas> Fabian, that'll show one-line descriptions too
[08:50] <netmonk> anyone having problems with you usb and the latest kernel from ubuntu?
[08:51] <dooglus> peter2: I was wondering what happened to your original account.  What happens when you try to log into Gnome with it?
[08:51] <magog> could someone that has got e17 to run please spare me a little time, pm me? ive done everything stated in the forum but havent been able to get it goin
[08:51] <Mahl> great!
[08:51] <SeamusLP> netmonk:  Are you running hoary?
[08:51] <raptoid> hi dudes..
[08:51] <netmonk> yes
[08:51] <Stew2> djm62, THat's cool. the structured drawing programs, what do you recommend?
[08:51] <peter2> it craches and I get back to gnome log-in screen
[08:51] <netmonk> yese SeamusLP
[08:51] <Fabian> alright
[08:51] <raptoid> i need example full packages sources.list ?
[08:51] <raptoid> help
[08:51] <Seveas> raptoid: Example config files can be found at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ExampleConffiles
[08:52] <djm62> Stew2: I'm no expert, but dia is nice for normal diagrams, and inkscape is good for vector illustrations
[08:52] <peter2> Seveas tried to help me out on that one to no avail, had to create a new user
[08:52] <raptoid> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com change to http://archive.ubuntu.com
[08:52] <raptoid> correct ?
[08:52] <SeamusLP> netmonk:  That's rather strange, hoary updates are security updates
[08:52] <Seveas> raptoid, correct
[08:52] <SeamusLP> netmonk:  You may want to file a bug report
[08:53] <chombee> HappyFool, Seveas - looks like we're out of leads, do you think the device is simply unsupported?
[08:53] <netmonk> SeamusLP,yesterday updated the kernel and wont recognize the usb flash memory but it works with the old kernel
[08:53] <lsuactiafner> what about a CASE tool to draw use-case diagrams ect?
[08:53] <djm62> Stew2: I have no idea what architecture involves, so best to give those a shot and then ask "like dia, but more X and less Y": for the most part that will be free
[08:53] <dooglus> peter2: that's very odd.  I would have thought that by simply renaming all your files and directories out of the way you could have fixed it.
[08:53] <netmonk> SeamusLP, where do i do that?
[08:53] <slept> how does ubotu learn ? where can I read more about that ?
[08:53] <dooglus> peter2: I guess by now you have the 'peter2' account all set up right anyway, right?
[08:53] <lsuactiafner> slept http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki
[08:53] <HappyFool> chombee: not sure. that thing about 'virtual <something> not detected properly' sounded a bit funny
[08:54] <SeamusLP> netmonk:  You've rebooted since yesterday, right?  Kernel changes don't take place until reboot
[08:54] <HappyFool> chombee: however, i am out of ideas
[08:54] <netmonk> SeamusLP, yes ;)
[08:54] <orhs> hey all! how do i install a .tar.bz2 file?    (iam installing clearlooks
[08:54] <Mahl> that didnt work Amarath
[08:54] <chombee> HappyFool - that's just the lshw command doesn't detect USB Mass storage devices that pose as virtual scsi devices
[08:54] <Stew2> djm62, Not a flow chart or diagram program. Something more like autocad, or at least a 'structured drawing program', meaning a drawing program that has rulers, so things can be drawn out to scale.
[08:54] <peter2> yes I do :)
[08:54] <Mahl> my menus are still gone
[08:54] <Seveas> orhs, clearlooks is installed already
[08:54] <dooglus> orhs: "sudo apt-get install clearlooks"
[08:54] <Mahl> I eh,...managed to delete some of the entries manually
[08:55] <Fabian> anyone knows how to update clamav?
[08:55] <HappyFool> chombee: ok, fair enough
[08:55] <lsuactiafner> orhs : tar -jxf file.tar.bz2 ; cd package_name ; ./configure ; make ; make install
[08:55] <peter2> The crashes always happened when using Totem to watch video
[08:55] <Stew2> djm62, Inkscape, checking it out now. Sounds a lot more like what he wanted. Thanks!
[08:55] <Seveas> lsuactiafner, not for clearlooks
[08:55] <orhs> seveas, oh is it? hmm
[08:55] <lsuactiafner> man clamav
[08:55] <Matthew_W> orhs: if you want to do it from source, extract the .tar.bz2, move to the folder, ./configure --prefix=/usr ;  make ; make install ; make clean
[08:55] <lsuactiafner> what is clearlocks?
[08:55] <Seveas> lsuactiafner, please do not aadice that for apps that are in the repositories
[08:55] <SeamusLP> netmonk:  I'm not really sure how you can reinstall the old kernel
[08:55] <Seveas> clearlooks is the theme enging ubuntu uses by default...
[08:55] <glDaher> trying to get kdevelop and I get this error in synaptic: W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/automake/automake1.4_1.4-p6-8_all.deb   ---  MD5Sum mismatch
[08:55] <gila> hello
[08:56] <lsuactiafner> ah
[08:56] <Seveas> glDaher, topic
[08:56] <lsuactiafner> i use blackbox..
[08:56] <Seveas> glDaher: To switch to a working mirror type the following:  sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update
[08:56] <lsuactiafner> my own themse ect..
[08:56] <netmonk> SeamusLP, how do i file bug report ;)
[08:56] <gila> any one using Vaio Notebook ?
[08:56] <slept> lsuactiafner, there is nothing in the wiki :(
[08:56] <Matthew_W> glDaher:  try #kubuntu
[08:56] <SeamusLP> netmonk:  Hold on just a second
[08:56] <Seveas> Matthew_W, hmm??
[08:56] <lsuactiafner> ah well i need to study
[08:56] <lsuactiafner> stupid exams
[08:56] <Mahl> So I managed to delete some entries in the menu by hand...tried reinstalling gnome-menu...gnome-panel etc
[08:56] <lsuactiafner> should be back 22nd
[08:56] <Mahl> still no luck getting the entries back
[08:56] <Mahl> any ideas?
[08:56] <glDaher> ok Mathew_W
[08:57] <gila> any one using Vaio Notebook ?
[08:57] <Matthew_W> Seveas:  well, I figured if he was asking a KDE related question, he's probably using kubuntu, opened xchat, which made him join ubuntu by default
[08:57] <Seveas> glDaher, you don;t need to go to #kubuntu
[08:57] <gila> how to setup sound on this notebook
[08:57] <SeamusLP> netmonk: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/bugs/document_view    and I'd also post on the ubuntu forums http://www.ubuntuforums.org to see if anyone else has the problem
[08:57] <Seveas> Matthew_W, look at the question before answering...
[08:57] <Seveas> it was the md5sum stuff again
[08:57] <SeamusLP> netmonk:  If you want the old kernel you'll probably have to install it from a hoary CD, but you will of course be vulnerable to whatever has been fixed since hoary came out.
[08:58] <Mahl> Nobody has the answer eh
[08:58] <Seveas> glDaher, the us ubuntu mirror is down
[08:58] <raz> is there an easy way to convert to kubuntu or do you have to go throu a clean install?
[08:58] <Amaranth> Mahl: oh, you deleted the entries?
[08:58] <twodeko> aaargh
[08:58] <Seveas> Mahl, how did you delete the entries?
[08:58] <twodeko> im trying to figure out what i like more
[08:58] <twodeko> gentoo or ubnutu
[08:58] <PhantomFreak> How do I add command I want to be executed on startup?
[08:58] <Seveas> raz, sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[08:58] <glDaher> yes Seveas I thought so...
[08:58] <dr_willis> raz,  check the kubuntu homepage. its a simple apt-get.
[08:58] <Amaranth> Mahl: Ok, well, let's say you deleted the entry for evolution. To get it back you need to reinstall evolution.
[08:58] <glDaher> and no I don't wanna use kde
[08:58] <gila> please give me a update server
[08:58] <Seveas> glDaher: To switch to a working mirror type the following:  sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update
[08:59] <chombee> Is there a way to get XChat to give me a list of channels? I want to find a linux technical help channel for mounting USB devices
[08:59] <Mahl> thats the only way Amaranth ?
[08:59] <Seveas> that'll solve the md5sum errors
[08:59] <Mahl> There isnt a way to reinstall something?
[08:59] <Amaranth> Mahl: yeah
[08:59] <Amaranth> Mahl: the application installs the menu entry
[08:59] <HappyFool> chombee: Window -> Channel list
[08:59] <Mahl> well...ok thanks
[08:59] <raz> Say you want a KDE desktop.. what is recommanded? ubuntu+kde desktop or kubuntu?
[08:59] <Mahl> well bbl then thanks for the help
[08:59] <SeamusLP> twodeko:  I used gentoo for awhile, haven't looked back since changing.  Configuring sound was a little easier with gentoo because of USE flags.
[08:59] <Amaranth> Mahl: you don't lose any setting when reinstalling
[08:59] <Seveas> raz, kubuntu
[09:00] <Mahl> well...its so many things to reinstall
[09:00] <Mahl> :)
[09:00] <mjr> raz, same thing
[09:00] <twodeko> SeamusLP, but i just feel like i cant do anything on here
[09:00] <twodeko> its all preconfigured
[09:00] <magog> grrr i got a depository that works and has dr17 in my sources.list and added it to synaptic, it updates files from it but all i see is dr16
[09:00] <Matthew_W> oops =/ sorry
[09:00] <Amaranth> Mahl: next time don't go nuts in /usr/share/applications/ :)
[09:00] <Mahl> :P:P
[09:00] <Mahl> cu
[09:00] <djm62> twodeko: use whatever you're comfortable with, dude
[09:00] <Matthew_W> On another topic, anyone know anything about USB -- BitPim won't access my USB/Serial ports, it just gives me "You have no serial/com ports on your system" when I'm clearly looking right at them... this is a particularly frustrating problem.
[09:00] <Seveas> wise words djm62 :)
[09:01] <twodeko> djm62, i have been using gentoo for a while but after loosing my last install... its been a bitch to set it up again
[09:01] <SeamusLP> twodeko:  It may be preconfigured but you can learn much from reconfiguring.
[09:01] <Seveas> twodeko, ubuntu is a dream to setup :)
[09:01] <chombee> HappyFool, Seveas - thanks for the help, I'll continue elsewhere
[09:01] <twodeko> amd64 doesnt seem very refined
[09:01] <twodeko> Seveas, how so?
[09:01] <djm62> Seveas: in that you can do it in your sleep? ;)
[09:01] <twodeko> this brown theme is bothering me :p
[09:01] <Seveas> djm62, indeed ;)
[09:01] <Seveas> twodeko, than change the color
[09:02] <glDaher> yep thx Seveas
[09:02] <twodeko> Seveas, looks terrible on my LCD... but all linux's do
[09:02] <chombee> Has anyone noticed problems fetching mplayer? Apt seems unable to get the packages
[09:02] <Seveas> twodeko, answering 4 questions to get a complete functional system beats the hell out of a gentoo stage 1 install...
[09:02] <twodeko> Seveas, tell me about it
[09:02] <pepsi> where can i get help with openoffice2?
[09:02] <Seveas> escpeciall since it takes just 30 minutes :)
[09:02] <HappyFool> chombee: what problems you having?
[09:02] <twodeko> Seveas, what WM do you use
[09:02] <HappyFool> chombee: note that use repo is down
[09:02] <Seveas> twodeko, currently gnome
[09:03] <PhantomFreak> Everybody is fucking ignoring me again! And this is supposed to be an official line of support!
[09:03] <HappyFool> chombee: i meant us repo
[09:03] <Seveas> PhantomFreak: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct
[09:03] <orhs> i got a login mananger here but i dont know how to install
[09:03] <HappyFool> PhantomFreak: no-one here is being paid to support anyone ;)
[09:03] <Seveas> PhantomFreak, it's busy, so your question can get lost
[09:03] <slept> Matthew_W, what does lsusb tell you ?
[09:03] <twodeko> Seveas, looking to try anything else?
[09:03] <Amaranth> PhantomFreak: Also, this isn't "official", this is users trying to help other users.
[09:03] <Seveas> twodeko, i've tried xfce too
[09:03] <twodeko> because gnome has always seemed so large
[09:03] <Seveas> i liked it
[09:03] <chombee> HappyFool - this is just a friend of mine, I was setting up some multimedia a packages for him and he's been repeatedly unable to get a couple of them, mplayer ones, looks like repo is down. You say a US repo is down?
[09:03] <twodeko> Seveas, howd that work with ubuntu
[09:03] <twodeko> thats what i was running in gentoo
[09:03] <twodeko> or tried
[09:03] <Matthew_W> slept:  Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[09:03] <Matthew_W> Bus 002 Device 003: ID 1267:0210 Logic3 / SpectraVideo plc
[09:03] <Matthew_W> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[09:03] <Matthew_W> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[09:04] <Seveas> twodeko, sudo atitude install xfce4
[09:04] <twodeko> and got frustrated because it was buggy
[09:04] <magog> if you look at http://mirror.my-space.ath.cx/unstable-20050215/ they have dr17....i update my repo info to but ONLY am seeing the dr16 packagesd
[09:04] <PhantomFreak> Amaranth: Ask the Ubuntu website that!
[09:04] <Seveas> twodeko, and done :)
[09:04] <magog> why would that be?
[09:04] <Amaranth> chombee: marillat is broken too, but you shouldn't be using it anyway
[09:04] <HappyFool> chombee: yeah, the us repo. in /etc/apt/sources.list, change 'us.archive.ubuntu.com' to archive.ubuntu.com
[09:04] <orhs> how do i install a login mananger??
[09:04] <twodeko> atitude?
[09:04] <twodeko> command not found
[09:04] <Seveas> aptitude
[09:04] <Amaranth> PhantomFreak: Official just means they manage the channel, it doesn't mean we have to help everyone with everything instantly.
[09:04] <Seveas> or apt-get
[09:04] <Seveas> or synaptic
[09:04] <HappyFool> PhantomFreak: feel free to ask for a refund ;). What's your question
[09:04] <Seveas> but i prefer aptitude :)
[09:05] <chombee> HappyFool - or wait for the US one to come back up, I guess
[09:05] <SeamusLP> PhantomFreak:  There are other ways to get support if the chat is busy.  The first thing you should do anyway is check the wiki and the forums.
[09:05] <twodeko> ah thanks, apt-get is foreign to me
[09:05] <djm62> PhantomFreak: a command you want on starting the computer, or on logging in?
[09:05] <chombee> Amaranth  marillat is down?
[09:05] <Amaranth> orhs: gdm is a login manager
[09:05] <HappyFool> chombee: it's been down since friday, i think. hope you're patient ;)
[09:05] <Seveas> twodeko, apt is great
[09:05] <Seveas> beats the hell out of portage :)
[09:05] <Amaranth> yay! spam bots
[09:05] <chombee> HappyFool - I notice mplayer is on marillat though
[09:05] <twodeko> Seveas, Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "xfce4"
[09:05] <gila> any one using Vaio Notebook ?] 
[09:05] <orhs> amaranth, yeah but were do i find it?
[09:05] <gila> any one using Vaio Notebook ?] 
[09:05] <Matthew_W> Yay for mini netsplits
[09:05] <HappyFool> chombee: marillat the path to the dark side is
[09:05] <gila> how to setup sound on this notebook
[09:05] <djm62> who spams irc? who throws a shoe?
[09:05] <Seveas> twodeko, you need to enable universe
[09:05] <Seveas> twodeko: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[09:05] <Seveas> twodeko: Example config files can be found at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ExampleConffiles
[09:06] <Amaranth> that is not a split
[09:06] <HappyFool> aaargh
[09:06] <Amaranth> Seveas: SET +R, QUICK
[09:06] <chombee> at least, it looks like it is
[09:06] <Seveas> Amaranth, hm?
[09:06] <Matthew_W> Amarath:  sorry, used to mIRC
[09:06] <twodeko> thanks Seveas
[09:06] <basti> my sound doesnt work, I installed the nVidia Treiber, but I cant change some options
[09:06] <wulfy814> anone running vmware 5 in hoary - it kills my machine and offers terrible performance - P4 3.0 - 3 Gig RAM
[09:06] <djm62> 0.0
[09:06] <HappyFool> chombee: using marillat packages can be troublesome for ubuntu systems. marillat is designed for debian, afaik
[09:06] <HappyFool> what's +R do ?
[09:07] <Amaranth> +R means only registered users can join
[09:07] <Seveas> Amaranth, i have join/part msgs disabled
[09:07] <Seveas> what's up?
[09:07] <Amaranth> it'll spot the bot flood, but it'll stop normal users too
[09:07] <Amaranth> err, stop
[09:07] <Seveas> ah
[09:07] <HappyFool> i hope it's only temporary
[09:07] <Matthew_W> slept: any ideas?
[09:07] <Seveas> bot flood
[09:07] <djm62> PhantomFreak: anyway...after all that fun, do you want to run a command when you login, or when the system boots?
[09:07] <Amaranth> i'll turn it off an a minute or two
[09:07] <Seveas> good idea
[09:07] <SeamusLP> It's a good idea to register anyway
[09:08] <Seveas> and i'll keep show join/part enabled :)
[09:08] <Amaranth> gtg
[09:08] <Amaranth> Seveas: turn it off in one minute
[09:08] <Amaranth> Seveas: -R, remember
[09:08] <HappyFool> who would bother spamming on irc anyway. bah.
[09:08] <Seveas> HappyFool, unfortunately, lots of people
[09:08] <djm62> I guess irc people are rich and gullible
[09:09] <_Magog_> will anyone help me with this repo problem?
[09:09] <SeamusLP> I'm honestly not surprised.  People have come in the channel and said some pretty disgusting things
[09:09] <chombee> HappyFool - you know what, I gave him the sample sources.list from the Hoary guide, so it doesn't even contain marillat, just adds universe and multiverse I guess, so it's just the US thing. He seemed to get almost all packages though, just not a couple of mplayer ones
[09:09] <twodeko> Seveas, that was easy :p
[09:09] <Seveas> _Magog_, what's the problem
[09:09] <djm62> woot!
[09:10] <flummox> seas
[09:10] <djm62> bbiab
[09:10] <HappyFool> chombee: in that case it probably is the us.archive problem
[09:10] <_Magog_> Seveas, i add http://mirror.my-space.ath.cx/unstable-20050215/ which has DR17, but apt-get and synatpic arent picking em up...i only see DR16
[09:10] <Matthew_W> Anyone else know anything about USB hardware or BitPim?
[09:10] <Seveas> _Magog_, have you run apt-get update (or hit the reload button in synaptic)
[09:11] <_Magog_> Seveas, yes and no 404 from the repo either
[09:11] <basti> can noone help me?
[09:11] <JohnMurdoch> May someone please link me to a guide showing how to install Ubuntu on a system which currently has WinXP?
[09:11] <raptoid> Seveas,
[09:12] <raptoid> i see http://pastebin.ca/14344
[09:12] <orhs> hey
[09:12] <Matthew_W> johns^: reboot and boot from the CD - it's magnificently easy
[09:12] <PhantomFreak> How do I get a mknod command to run on boot, or create it in another way... Cos everythime I create the node I need it just disapears on boot!
[09:12] <raptoid> its correct ?
[09:12] <_Magog_> JohnMurdoch, you dun need one, if you have a partition already clean ubuntu will see windows and take over the MBR
[09:12] <raptoid> Seveas, http://pastebin.ca/14344
[09:12] <chrissturm> magog do a search for enlightenment_0.17
[09:12] <Seveas> JohnMurdoch, short guide: pop in install cd, reboot, follow the instructions
[09:12] <raptoid> you see
[09:12] <JohnMurdoch> _Magog_, hello, thanks for the helpful answer. So upon reboot, I will be presented with a choice to load Ubuntu or WinXP?
[09:12] <HappyFool> PhantomFreak: what device is it ?
[09:13] <Seveas> raptoid, hmm, that's not correct :)
[09:13] <JohnMurdoch> Seveas, hello, thank you too for the helpful answer. :) Same question
[09:13] <_Magog_> JohnMurdoch, correct
[09:13] <Matthew_W> johns^: yes, so long as you do not choose to overwrite winxp
[09:13] <raptoid> Seveas,  ?
[09:13] <raptoid> help me
[09:13] <JohnMurdoch> _Magog_, wow, I didn't know it would be that simple, thank you! =)
[09:13] <raptoid> help help
[09:13] <PhantomFreak> /dev/ttyLT0 - My dial-up modem! Otherwise it works!
[09:13] <_Magog_> np
[09:13] <peter2> gparted options to resize a drive cannot be selected, anyone an idea as why ?
[09:13] <HappyFool> PhantomFreak: one way would be to add the mknod command to /etc/init.d/boostmisc.sh
[09:13] <JohnMurdoch> Matthew_W, thank you too =)
[09:13] <Matthew_W> hehe No problem.
[09:13] <_Magog_> chrissturm, no results
[09:13] <Seveas> raptoid, use the sources at paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[09:14] <slept> Matthew_W, not really I never used usb serial port, you can go to the commandline unplug it and plug it  - then you'll get more information
[09:14] <raptoid> ok
[09:14] <chrissturm> magog: the e17 in these debs is 4 months old anyway :)
[09:14] <Matthew_W> slept: explain that a little further?
[09:14] <HappyFool> PhantomFreak: hrm. weird. It might be better to hack /etc/udev/ config files, but i could never get that right
[09:15] <Matthew_W> slept:  There is no change in lsusb when I plug/unplug, however, the phone (lg vx3200) realizes that it's been plugged in.
[09:15] <salem> When i play AVI files i can hear the sounds from the movie but cant see anything. Does anyone know why?
[09:15] <Matthew_W> salem:  What movie player/
[09:15] <salem> Totem
[09:15] <_Magog_> chrissturm, :( i really wanna get DR17 its pretty...:P
[09:16] <slept> Matthew_W, <ctrl> + <alt> + <F1>, log in , unplug,plug then ther should be some information
[09:16] <salem> Matthew_W: totem
[09:16] <Matthew_W> salem:  Try using mplayer, it's more supported etc.  Other than that, check your video codec or video output drivers.  Fiddle with them until you get one that works
[09:18] <uc50ic4more> Folks, I have a quick question - I have installed Ubuntu for several people thus far, and in each case I have *no* wallpaper on their desktop. My reasoning, from putting together audio/ video production machines running Windows for several years, was that I'd rather NOT use a few MB of RAM displaying a useless bitmap... On a desktop machine, with RAM plentiful and cheap these days, is this a bit too anal of me? A 1280 x 1024 24bpp image ju
[09:18] <_Magog_> grrr guess no DR17 for  me
[09:19] <chombee> Anyone know about this Hoary Extras repos that seems to have popped up? What's on it?
[09:19] <a-l-le> hello, has anybody tried to install ubuntu on a fire wire external drive?
[09:20] <Pop_pa_FreaK> can someone dcc me a txt of their sources.list as for some reason mine is bogged up
[09:20] <twodeko> Seveas, not so sure how much i like this :/
[09:20] <Matthew_W> slept:  No messages, and didn't know how to get back into x.
[09:20] <Matthew_W> slept: lol
[09:21] <slept> Matthew_W, <alt> +<F7>
[09:21] <salem> Mattew_W: i also have VLC but in it i can see but not hear??
[09:22] <pepsi> what does 'rather' mean?
[09:22] <slept> Matthew_W, did you just plugin a cable one side usb the other side serialport , or is there a device on it ?
[09:22] <raptoid> Seveas
[09:22] <raptoid> Seveas
[09:22] <raptoid> Seveas
[09:22] <raptoid> may i add sadece paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 this to http://pastebin.ca/14344 there?
[09:22] <a-l-le> ah, yes, on a powerbook.
[09:23] <Matthew_W> slept:  Not entirely sure, one side is a USB, the other side attaches to my cell phone.
[09:23] <slept> pepsi:dict rather
[09:23] <Seveas> raptoid, no just replace :)
[09:23] <Matthew_W> slept:  I had a similar cable for a motorola phone with no big lump device jigger in the middle that worked fine.
[09:23] <Seveas> twodeko, like what?
[09:23] <Matthew_W> slept: (for the motorola phone, which is now severely dated)
[09:23] <twodeko> Seveas, im just used to gentoo id say
[09:23] <stjepan> hi
[09:23] <Seveas> twodeko, ah :)
[09:23] <pepsi> slept, command not found :P.. seriously though, is there a command line dictionary?
[09:23] <stjepan> do you know how can I get screenshot from xfce?
[09:23] <Seveas> well as said before, use what you are comfortable with
[09:24] <twodeko> i just like getting a computer started customized and i can build off it
[09:24] <raptoid> may i add this paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 this to http://pastebin.ca/14344 there?
[09:24] <raptoid> Seveas,
[09:24] <twodeko> stjepan, imagemagik
[09:24] <Seveas> raptoid, no just replace :)
[09:24] <slept> pepsi, dict is one
[09:24] <twodeko> capture iirc
[09:24] <salem> How can i toggle between an internal soundcard and a soundblaster?
[09:24] <Seveas> salem, you have /dev/dsp1 and /dev/dsp2
[09:25] <Seveas> just make sure you use the one you want
[09:25] <Zodiac> sup dawgs
[09:25] <stjepan> do you know any FAST, but REALLY FAST browser for Linux?
[09:25] <salem> Seveas: yes.
[09:25] <Juhaz> lynx.
[09:25] <uc50ic4more> stjepan - try dillo
[09:26] <Seveas> stjepan, links2
[09:26] <scott_> How can I make my resolution 1280x1024
[09:26] <Seveas> scott_: To find out ho you can change your dispplay's resolution, go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:26] <Zodiac> Did anyone else get some kind of kernel update from Ubuntu manager?
[09:26] <Rockett17> q
[09:27] <raptoid> Seveas,
[09:27] <Seveas> Zodiac, yes, a few days ago
[09:27] <raptoid> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/pmuewo66.html
[09:27] <twodeko> Seveas, thanks for the help mate
[09:27] <Zodiac> What was it?
[09:27] <twodeko> ill drop by here some time
[09:27] <stjepan> oh
[09:27] <Seveas> raptoid, you're just making it worse :)
[09:27] <salem> seveas: yes i have dsp1 and dsp2
[09:27] <Matthew_W> slept: It won't even autodetect on windoze xp though, which is bothersome.
[09:27] <Seveas> raptoid, the lines in paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 are all you need
[09:28] <stjepan> I want a browser like FF
[09:28] <Seveas> salem, i know. It was not a question
[09:28] <Seveas> salem, i said: make sure you use the right one
[09:28] <salem> thanks
[09:28] <Zodiac> Is there a link I get some info about it?
[09:28] <Seveas> symlinking /dev/dsp to /dev/dsp1 will let you use 1, same for dsp2
[09:28] <slept> Matthew_W, what kind of cell phone is it
[09:28] <djm62> stjepan: but not FF...how do you want it to be unlike FF?
[09:29] <Seveas> Zodiac, you can look at the changes in synaptic
[09:29] <Zodiac> I can?
[09:29] <Seveas> Zodiac, and also: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/usn/usn-137-1
[09:30] <flummox> hey, how do i get the actual speed of my internet-connection using pppconfig/pppd ?
[09:30] <Matthew_W> slept:  LG vx3200 or LG 3200
[09:30] <Matthew_W> slept: hehe, I work for Telus... I should probably know this stuff lol
[09:30] <stjepan> djm62, FF is so slow...
[09:30] <stjepan> :(
[09:31] <Zodiac> ahhh
[09:31] <Zodiac> I see
[09:31] <Zodiac> Okay, thank you
[09:31] <stjepan> oh
[09:31] <stjepan> dillo is fast
[09:31] <HappyFool> flummox: i'm not sure you can easily. one way is to download a biggish (compressed) file and see how long it takes ;)
[09:31] <Brips> je vais voir dans mes paquets synaptic
[09:31] <djm62> stjepan: epiphany is a gtk browser which uses the same rendering engine as FF, but a bit lighter, I find konqueror a bit quicker in practice (although I don't like the rendering), and dillo is fast
[09:32] <slept> Matthew_W, never heard of these , did you google for modelnumber and linux ?
[09:32] <Seveas> Brips, on parle anglais ici, pour aide en franais, va a #ubuntu-fr
[09:32] <Brips> oups sry ;)
[09:32] <raz> Who here uses an antivirus under linux?
[09:32] <HappyFool> me, at work
[09:32] <we2bby> I have it installed
[09:32] <djm62> Seveas: is there a wiki page with that phrase in several languages or something?
[09:33] <Matthew_W> slept:  Yes, and followed the directions... so, I think I'll look for another cable *strangles www.wirelessaxis.com*
[09:33] <we2bby> but never ran it
[09:33] <HappyFool> i use linuxshield at the insistence of our it department
[09:33] <Seveas> djm, no non nein njet nee
[09:33] <Matthew_W> djm62: I'll just go out on a limb and say he speaks a couple of langs.
[09:33] <slept> Matthew_W, good luck
[09:33] <Matthew_W> lol
[09:33] <Matthew_W> slept: thanks.
[09:33] <infralite> how can i have synaptic check another cd drive if i have more than one?
[09:33] <infralite> it's driving me crazy
[09:33] <Seveas> infralite, yes
[09:33] <raz> HappyFool, you recommand it?.'.
[09:34] <pedropinto> i want to install Ubuntu on some machines with local Portuguese language support but it isn't included on the install cd. is it on the dvd ?
[09:34] <infralite> Seveas: yes?
[09:34] <HappyFool> raz: well, it works. it definitely slows my linux box down just like it does my xp box
[09:34] <Seveas> oh cd-drive... dunno about that. i thought it should....
[09:34] <Seveas> use apt-cd add
[09:34] <infralite> hmm ok
[09:34] <HappyFool> raz: problem is it only works with kernel 2.4 -- i believe a 2.6 version is due out this month
[09:34] <infralite> lemme give it a sht
[09:34] <infralite> *shot
[09:35] <infralite> err, seems apt-cd doesn't exist? that can't be true.
[09:35] <Seveas> apt-cdrom
[09:35] <infralite> ah, thanks
[09:35] <Seveas> (as you see, i don't use it too often :))
[09:36] <Seveas> infralite, apt-cdrom -d can do good things too
[09:36] <Seveas> infralite, just type apt-cdrom for a summafy of the options
[09:36] <infralite> Seveas: that was what i was checking over right now :)
[09:36] <infralite> thanks for the help
[09:39] <infralite> Seveas: says it cant open and "Permission denied" to my cd, should be because it's corrupt, right? cd's should have read access
[09:40] <Seveas> infralite, apt-cdrom should be run as root iirc
[09:40] <infralite> ah
[09:40] <infralite> sudo!
[09:41] <Seveas> yes :)
[09:42] <Xosgyz> Where should one start looking to try to fix a DNS problem?  I can ping my router but can't resolve a dns query
[09:42] <kaz> I get debootstrap errors @ coreutils
[09:43] <kaz> when installing.
[09:43] <Seveas> Xosgyz, /etc/resolv.conf
[09:43] <Seveas> Xosgyz, look at the host/dig commands too for testing
[09:43] <Seveas> kaz, set your location to something other than us/ca in the install
[09:43] <Xosgyz> Seveas: If my router IP is in resolv.conf then I am somehow hosed right?:)
[09:44] <Seveas> or disable downloading from the network during install
[09:44] <Seveas> Xosgyz, if your router doesn't do dns: yes
[09:44] <kaz> looking at the topic.....  I downloaded this install disc a couple days from the us archive... I guess I need to redownload.
[09:45] <Seveas> kaz, hmm, yeah could be :)
[09:45] <kaz> there was an exploit or hack or something?
[09:45] <Seveas> kaz, no idea, it just gives errors....
[09:46] <HappyFool> never blame on malice what can be explained by incompetence or biscuits crumbs on the mainboard
[09:46] <kaz> breezy > hoary? (next release?)
[09:46] <kaz> I grabbed hoary 5.0.4
[09:46] <Seveas> kaz, breezy is indeed the next release
[09:46] <HappyFool> breezy is currently for the foolhardy only
[09:47] <kaz> so the hoary that I got should be ok? The debootstrap error is just some bug with networking or something?
[09:47] <Seveas> kaz, yes, probably
[09:48] <nalioth> HappyFool: but not HappyFools?
[09:48] <HappyFool> nalioth: happyfools are known to be unstable-allergic
[09:49] <nalioth> HappyFool: :P
[09:50] <jmain_> I have a quick question.  Does ubuntu have the mppe patch in the kernel used for PPTP VPN client?
[09:50] <Muiske> Can anyone help me with this error?
[09:50] <Muiske> Muiske X Error of failed request:  BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)
[09:50] <Muiske> Muiske   Major opcode of failed request:  135 (XFree86-VidModeExtension)
[09:50] <Muiske> Muiske   Minor opcode of failed request:  10 (XF86VidModeSwitchToMode)
[09:50] <Muiske> Muiske   Value in failed request:  0x2c00002
[09:50] <Muiske> Muiske   Serial number of failed request:  70
[09:50] <Muiske> Muiske   Current serial number in output stream:  72
[09:50] <Seveas> muiske, do not paste in here
[09:50] <Seveas> you will be un-muted soon
[09:51] <liz4rd> lol!!!
[09:51] <liz4rd> MUTED!!!
[09:51] <liz4rd> thats like...CUT
[09:51] <liz4rd> :P
[09:51] <liz4rd> ok i'm done
[09:52] <Fabian> how can I update clamav???
[09:52] <Seveas> Fabian, with apt-get update :)
[09:52] <nalioth> Fabian: "sudo apt-get update"
[09:52] <Seveas> or otherwise: look at /usr/share/doc/
[09:52] <nalioth> Fabian: or try 'sudo freshclam" for updated virus defs
[09:52] <HappyFool> Fabian: a glance at clamav's description points to clamav-freshclam
[09:52] <kaz> unplugged net, restarted comptuer.... same problem.
[09:53] <kaz> debootstrap error @ coreutils.
[09:53] <mrbuckets> Anyone have any success managing Linux clients from a Windows 2003 AD environment?
[09:53] <kaz> I get the same error with kubuntu as well.  I have tried a different CD-Rom drive.
[09:53] <Fabian> HappyFool, nalioth, Seveas I tried sudo freshclam, and it downloaded a file, but it's somehow not up to date
[09:53] <Seveas> kaz, then your iso is bad
[09:53] <kaz> BOTH isos?
[09:54] <kaz> kubuntu does the same, at the exact same spot. What are the odds of that?
[09:54] <HappyFool> Fabian: sorry dude. you'll need to read the docs to find out more
[09:54] <HappyFool> mrbuckets: i have joined a CentOS 3.4 system to a Win 2003 AD domain
[09:54] <HappyFool> mrbuckets: i had to upgrade to latest samba/krb5 though
[09:54] <infralite> Seveas: hmm, it adds the cd in synaptic now but i see no new packages
[09:54] <mrbuckets> HappyFool: really?
[09:55] <scott_> How Do I change my resolution to 1280x1024? I tried editing xorg.conf but it is read only and it won't let me change it
[09:55] <HappyFool> mrbuckets: indeed really ;)
[09:55] <viork> http://viork2.blogspot.com/
[09:55] <viork> http://viork2.blogspot.com/
[09:55] <mrbuckets> HappyFool: so was that computer visible via AD?
[09:55] <infralite> Seveas: sudo apt-cdrom -ad /media/cdrom1 add was what i did
[09:55] <liz4rd> SPAM!!!
[09:55] <liz4rd> :P
[09:55] <mrbuckets> HappyFool: or just the user?
[09:55] <liz4rd> http://datapirate.ath.cx <-- hep get it started :D
[09:55] <liz4rd> hrlp*
[09:55] <HappyFool> mrbuckets: um. it's part of the domain -- not sure what you mean by visible via AD
[09:55] <liz4rd> help*
[09:55] <liz4rd> :P
[09:56] <HappyFool> mrbuckets: i could type '\\machinename' to view it at a windows box
[09:56] <kaz> Where could I get better support on this debootstrap issue? I don't believe my iso is bad.
[09:56] <scott_> all: How Do I change my resolution to 1280x1024? I tried editing xorg.conf but it is read only and it won't let me change it
[09:56] <mrbuckets> HappyFool: As in, if you were going to Manage Users and Computers (a windows management snap-in), would you see that computer in the console?
[09:56] <kaz> I don't believe that both distros would fail at the exact same spot during the install.
[09:56] <infralite> kaz: why not do a md5 sum check?
[09:56] <HappyFool> mrbuckets: i don't know. i don't have admin rights on the domain
[09:56] <kaz> I don't have the .iso files here.
[09:56] <infralite> ah
[09:56] <mrbuckets> HappyFool: gotcha
[09:57] <kaz> I am redownloading from a non-us site right now though.
[09:57] <Seveas> kaz, use cdimage.ubuntu.com
[09:57] <Fabian> Seveas, removed freshclam and downloaded the datafiles instead, (both with synaptics) and when I restart the deamon now, it doesnt say anymore, it's outdated
[09:57] <slept> scott_, you need sudo , use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg if you are not sure what you are doing
[09:57] <HappyFool> kaz: you can test the CD if you can mount it
[09:58] <nalioth> Fabian: so thats sorted, then
[09:58] <HappyFool> kaz: in the root of the CD, 'md5sum -c md5sum.txt'
[09:58] <kaz> what is 5.10? breezy?
[09:58] <HappyFool> indeed. year.month
[09:58] <Fabian> nalioth, seams so
[09:59] <chombee> Can anyone here give me an idea of the state of support for USB HD enclosures on Ubuntu? I'm looking at a VanTec NexStar3
[10:00] <infralite> Seveas: it complains that no valid records were found
[10:00] <killerbunny> How can i make the wheel on my intellimouse work ?
[10:00] <killerbunny> I look up the guide, but i cant find imwheel.
[10:00] <scott_> slept: I did reconfigure and It does absolutely nothing
[10:00] <Efwis> how do I pull a trace file up from a debugger?
[10:00] <slept> scott_, did you restart the x server
[10:01] <HappyFool> hmm, clamav looks interesting. i wonder if our it deparment would accept it as a linuxshield replacement
[10:01] <yahalom> i had sound yesterday now i dont. when i play xmms its playing. just no sound. i tried kill esd. still no sound. can someone help plz
[10:01] <yahalom> even when i log out there is no ubuntu drum on the gdm login screen
[10:01] <despeeh> Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" in XF86Config-4 for mouse InputDevice
[10:02] <xnoff> anyone have experience with kismet?
[10:02] <nalioth> HappyFool: read an article on newsforge the other week (or was it /.) about a guy runnin his email server with multiple filters (one of which was clamav)
[10:03] <infralite> HappyFool: clamav works pretty well. I saw it catch the jpeg exploit the day it was submitted to securityfocus
[10:03] <HappyFool> nalioth, infralite: cool, thanks. will do some more research
[10:03] <yahalom> anybody?
[10:04] <scott_> How do I make it so I don't get all these permission errors?
[10:04] <slept> yahalom, volume level  down ?
[10:04] <infralite> sudo?
[10:04] <scott_> like when i extract stuff
[10:04] <yahalom> slept, nope
[10:04] <infralite> scott_: use sudo before the command
[10:04] <scott_> i mean to extract things
[10:05] <yahalom> slept, lol
[10:05] <yahalom> slept, yes
[10:05] <scott_> I don't want to go to terminal for everything
[10:05] <yahalom> slept, but why wouldnt i get the drum on gdm, my xmms volume was down
[10:05] <chombee> HappyFool - do you think my USB problem could be because I didn't insert the HD properly?
[10:05] <infralite> scott_: then you have to set permissions with chmod
[10:05] <jmain_> yahalom: I just tried the Live CD and the system had 2 options for Sound in the Volume app.  I had no sound until I changed to to the correct sound card.
[10:05] <infralite> to wherever you are extracting
[10:06] <slept> yahalom, thats pcm it's systemwide look at a mixer whwn you turn it down
[10:06] <infralite> it can be done with gnome's nautilus
[10:06] <concept10> Anyone use GnomeBaker or are you guys using K3B
[10:06] <yahalom> jmain_, thanx
[10:06] <yahalom> slept, thanx
[10:06] <scott_> infralite: how do I do that exactly
[10:06] <nalioth> concept10: i use k3b
[10:06] <infralite> scott_: right click, properties => perms
[10:07] <despeeh> scott : chmod u+rwx   :)
[10:07] <concept10> nalioth, I thought gnome baker was a great idea but its not stable
[10:07] <infralite> despeeh: lol
[10:07] <HappyFool> chombee: hrm, i dunno
[10:07] <raz> nalioth, any way in k3b to open a disc and continue a previous session?
[10:07] <concept10> oh well back to k3b
[10:07] <iggy_> need some help whith installing mysql
[10:07] <HappyFool> chombee: try unplugging the HD, and plugging in the cage (err, or whatever you call it)
[10:07] <HappyFool> chombee: see if dmesg registers anything
[10:07] <Fabian> why does it take so long to set up the network interfaces on startup? could it be, because it searches vor wlan and cant find or similar?
[10:07] <despeeh> iggy what a kind of help do u need
[10:07] <nalioth> concept10: not quite yet, anyway
[10:07] <scott_> despeeh: it says too few arguments
[10:07] <iggy_> have installed it whith syntaptic
[10:07] <jmain_> Does installing k3b install all the KDE libraries? or are they already installed on a fresh install?
[10:08] <nalioth> raz i'm not sure, i only burn single-sessions
[10:08] <despeeh> chmod u+rwx (file)
[10:08] <infralite> scott_: you have to tell it a file at the end
[10:08] <nalioth> jmain_: it only installs the required libraries
[10:08] <infralite> scott: or a directory
[10:08] <concept10> jmain_, yes, it install alot of libraries.  I just installed. 111mb
[10:08] <scott_> Can't you just make it so that I have permision to edit everything?
[10:08] <iggy_> i can do mysql but there are only empty tables
[10:08] <nalioth> Fabian: there is an article on the wiki to address the network startup delay
[10:08] <scott_> can I just do chmod u+rwx /
[10:09] <concept10> jmain_, ed to get 39.7MB/39.8MB of archives.
[10:09] <concept10> After unpacking 111MB of additional disk space will be used.
[10:09] <jmain_> I use k3b currently in my super hacked up mepis install.  I plan on moving to ubuntu but was wondering about cd burning.
[10:09] <nalioth> james__: k3b is k3b
[10:10] <slept> scott_, you don't want  to mess up your hole system don't chmod /
[10:10] <concept10> just installed k3b, no menu item for it :(
[10:10] <iggy_> but how do i configure mysql after install?
[10:10] <scott_> slept: how do you undo that?
[10:10] <Seveas> iggy_, use phpmyadmin if you want a simple interface
[10:10] <slept> scott_, reinstall
[10:11] <bronson_> Anyone know why ddd complains about a missing elf/start.S?
[10:11] <scott_> slept: thanks....
[10:11] <jmain_> I rarely use the menu in gnome.  I just use the run command for everything.
[10:11] <bronson_> I've got libc6-dbg installed.
[10:11] <despeeh> iggy do u use phpmysql?
[10:11] <scott_> infralite: it says operation not permitted
[10:12] <Fabian> nalioth, have you got a link?
[10:12] <iggy_> i have installed php
[10:12] <scott_> How do you make something not read-only
[10:12] <despeeh> i suppose there is webmin mysql exist too
[10:12] <Seveas> scott_, with chmod
[10:13] <jmain_> scott_: chmod +rw
[10:13] <chrissturm> phpmyadmin is also very nice
[10:13] <scott_> would it be -rw?
[10:13] <HappyFool> scott_: what do you want to change to be not read-only ?
[10:13] <scott_> xorg.conf
[10:13] <nalioth> Fabian: not atm, use the seach
[10:13] <HappyFool> scott_: and how are you trying to edit it ?
[10:13] <iggy_> okay got phpmyadmin but now i need first configure account for mysql
[10:13] <scott_> happyfool: gedit
[10:13] <HappyFool> scott_: you need to have 'root' (adminstrative) users to edit that file
[10:14] <Seveas> iggy_, use root with no password for the first login
[10:14] <HappyFool> scott_: try 'sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[10:14] <Seveas> iggy_, and please change that login asap :)
[10:14] <scott_> woah
[10:14] <scott_> happyfool:thanks
[10:14] <HappyFool> scott_: you need to have 'root' (administrative) *rights* to edit that file (correction, my apologies)
[10:14] <iggy_> he already says acces denied
[10:15] <scott_> happyfool: how do you make it so I don't need sudo all the time?
[10:15] <concept10> anyone know how to change that ugly font in k3b?
[10:15] <HappyFool> scott_: preferably, you don't ;)
[10:15] <jmain_> Scott_:You do not want to do that.
[10:15] <nalioth> concept10: if nobody answers you here, try #kubuntu or #kde
[10:15] <scott_> happyfool: why is that
[10:15] <HappyFool> scott_: mostly protecting yourself from yourself
[10:15] <concept10> I need to change my whole system font Ubuntu comes with a horrible default font
[10:16] <HappyFool> scott_: as an ordinary user you can't easily break your machine
[10:16] <Fabian> nalioth, can't find..... :(
[10:16] <iggy_> seveas help? :D
[10:16] <HappyFool> scott_: but as root... well. it's very easy
[10:16] <scott_> happyfool:  you can just call me a noob ;-)
[10:17] <scott_> happyfool:  so basically If you aren't smart enough to give yourself root access you aren't worth of being root?
[10:17] <nalioth> scott_: one keystroke as root can hose your whole system beyond recovery
[10:17] <TMM> hey all!
[10:17] <jmain_> scott_: Running as a restricted user is a good thing.  This is what makes Linux, BSD, OS X much more secure then Windows.
[10:17] <HappyFool> scott_: bear in mind that once you've entered a password for 'sudo', you shouldn't need to do so again if you use sudo within a few minutes again
[10:18] <scott_> happyfool:  okay, I'm gonna see if this worked
[10:18] <TMM> I'm having a little problem, I build my own kernel with kernel-package from the sources apt-getted (which claim to have ubuntu patches) I copy the config from /boot, build the kernel with make-kpkg --initrd buildpackage (no changes) and my vesafb won't work with that kernel... shouldn't it be identical to the ones provided with ubuntu?
[10:18] <scott_> happyfool:  brb
[10:18] <HappyFool> good luck
[10:19] <TMM> can someone tell he what (if anything) I'm doing wrong?
[10:19] <nalioth> HappyFool: sudo is the steel-bottomed sixgun holster of linux
[10:19] <HappyFool> nalioth: heh
[10:20] <Seveas> TMM, there are not much kernel experts here, maybe you should try #ubuntu-kernel
[10:20] <HappyFool> nalioth: some people *like* sore feet
[10:20] <TMM> weird part is, according to dmesg it doesn't even TRY to load vesafb
[10:20] <TMM> Seveas, ah, thanks
[10:20] <scott_> okay I still can't change my resolution to 1280x1024
[10:20] <nalioth> HappyFool: keeps ya from shootin yerself in the foot (or a much more tender spot)
[10:20] <Seveas> scott_, restart the X server after editing xorg.conf
[10:20] <nalioth> scott what driver are you using?
[10:20] <scott_> for what
[10:21] <iggy_> how can i log in
[10:21] <jpatota> im having this problem with apt-get on on http://us.archive.ubuntu.com
[10:21] <nalioth> jpatota: read the /topic
[10:21] <Seveas> jpatota: To switch to a working mirror type the following:  sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update
[10:21] <scott_> nalioth: what driver am I using for what?
[10:21] <nalioth> scott_: please address us by name (whomever you are talking to)
[10:21] <jpatota> thanks
[10:22] <nalioth> scott_: your 1280x1024 driver
[10:22] <Seveas> iggy_, on a freshly installed mysql server you can login with user root without password. Only from localhost
[10:22] <scott_> nalioth: I am using default drivers for everything
[10:23] <Fabian> nalioth, at this inofficial page it says to press Ctrl+C, but I want to start the network.... can't be the solution, can it?
[10:23] <nalioth> Seveas: VESA should enable scott_'s system to display 1280x1024, correct?
[10:23] <Seveas> nalioth, ENOCLUE
[10:23] <nalioth> Fabian: its either one way or the other. you decide which you'd rather have
[10:23] <Seveas> i'm no X expert
[10:23] <savetheclocktowr> quick question: if i've got a hard drive with ubuntu already installed, and i want to set it up on a windows machine to dual-boot, then all i have to do is put the drive in and install a bootloader, right?  how would i go about that?
[10:23] <nalioth> scott_: you have run the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, right?
[10:24] <scott_> nalioth: yes
[10:24] <scott_> nalioth: I must warn you I am a complete linux noob
[10:24] <nalioth> scott_: what driver did you choose during that process?
[10:24] <Fabian> nalioth, too bad... :( why does linux take so long to start!?
[10:24] <scott_> nalioth: I think Vesa
[10:24] <Seveas> savetheclocktowr, on the machine you boot from a livecd, mount your ubuntu install, chroot into it and run grub-install
[10:25] <nalioth> scott_: are you running a tube monitor or lcd?
[10:25] <glDaher> am not happy with something... when getting applications. most of the time you don't know what it is, and it has dependencies... now I wanna remove it, and I don't remember those depends. =/ is there a way to remove all dependencies if only this app depends on them?
[10:25] <savetheclocktowr> Seveas: sounds good, thanks
[10:25] <Seveas> glDaher, look at debfoster
[10:25] <jmain_> scott_: what video card do you have in your system.  I think Vesa is lowest common denominator.
[10:25] <scott_> nalioth: I was wrong, I used ATI
[10:25] <nalioth> Fabian: its "why does Ubuntu take so long to start" and the answer is "cuz the devs made it so"
[10:25] <slept> scott_, did you restart the xserver - do you know how to do that  (<ctrl>+ <alt>+<backspace>). If you don't restart nothing will change
[10:25] <SnowWrite> hi I'm having issues with webmin on ubuntu.. the network configuration module won't show in the interface..
[10:25] <nalioth> scott_: try VESA
[10:25] <Seveas> glDaher, if you install things using aptitude, all dependencies will be removed when uninstalling
[10:26] <scott_> nalioth: ok
[10:26] <nalioth> slept: he rebooted or logged out
[10:26] <slept> oh I see
[10:26] <miberto> Hi ubuntues, I have a problem with hoary. When I start with the AC plug the screen light i high, but if I start without AC it is low and it's not possible to swich between like I used with the previous release. Any idea?
[10:26] <scott_> nalioth: brb
[10:26] <Fabian> nalioth, but every linux takes longer than for example windows! and why did the devs make ubuntu take long to start?
[10:26] <glDaher> Seveas: I use the synaptic manager
[10:26] <nalioth> Fabian: a lot of that is that linux is not designed to be a desktop OS
[10:27] <Seveas> glDaher, maybe synaptic does it too, i don't know it :)
[10:27] <nalioth> Fabian: linux is a "Server" OS first
[10:27] <nalioth> Fabian: and is designed to virtually NEVER have to be turned off
[10:27] <Seveas> but debfoster is very good at cleaning up unneeded dependencies
[10:27] <slept>  scott_ , maybe you have to change the sync ranges for your monitor
[10:27] <nalioth> Fabian: so when you only restart your machine once every 2 or 3 months (or way way longer), restart time isnt an issue
[10:28] <zapada> hey, when are the new ubuntu cds going to ship?
[10:28] <Fabian> nalioth, that's true.... but as linux becomes so popular as a desktop OS, why don't they work to make it faster?
[10:28] <glDaher> Seveas: synaptic has two remove options, mark for removal, and mark for complete removal... could it be the later?
[10:28] <raz> Any way in k3b to open previous session on a disk and write??
[10:28] <mfabbri> hi
[10:29] <nalioth> Fabian: some linux' are faster, its all how its coded and arranged to work together
[10:29] <HappyFool> Fabian: it is being worked on ;)
[10:29] <HappyFool> Fabian: patience
[10:29] <nalioth> Fabian: check this out: www.linuxfromscratch.org
[10:29] <jmain_> My G4 Mac boots to desktop in 20 Secs :)
[10:29] <slept> SnowWrite, try /etc/init.d/webmin restart
[10:29] <nalioth> jmain_: you mean your OSX on your G4, right?
[10:29] <jmain_> yeah
[10:29] <mfabbri> is there any way to limit resources allocated by bash processes for all the user
[10:29] <SnowWrite> did that..:-(
[10:30] <nalioth> jmain_: i run ubuntu on a G3 and G4 iBook, and it takes a couple minutes
[10:30] <jmain_> Nalioth: I only use Linux on my work Laptop.
[10:30] <mfabbri> i.e. avoiding shell fork bombs?
[10:30] <slept> raz, works fine
[10:30] <nalioth> jmain_: i run ubuntu on my macs cuz i can
[10:30] <raz> slept, how? what button/option? don't see it.
[10:31] <nalioth> jmain_: OSX is deeply tied to the hardware, and backgrounds the S**t out of a lot of startup processes
[10:31] <Seveas> glDaher, no
[10:31] <jmain_> Nalioth: I really like OS X.  But My Laptop is a Toshiba and Windows runs like crap on it.
[10:31] <Fabian> nalioth, yeah, heared about LFS. But's nothing for me, I think! ;) too new to linux
[10:31] <Seveas> complete removal is apt-get remove --purge
[10:31] <nalioth> jmain_: i wouldnt wish winduhs on anyone
[10:32] <nalioth> Fabian: you could do it. its very informative and step-by-step
[10:32] <_linuxAS_> hi
[10:32] <nalioth> Fabian: it would teach you SO much about linux and unix
[10:32] <slept> raz, select burn, settings,  multisession,  continue..
[10:32] <raz> slept, thanky
[10:32] <Fabian> nalioth, I'll have a look at it....
[10:32] <Fabian> nalioth, who knows? :D
[10:32] <nalioth> Fabian: you can d/l the book and read at your pleasure
[10:33] <hodgman> hello, I'm trying to apt-get iptraf program and I'm getting a MD5Sum mismatch
[10:33] <Seveas> hodgman, look at the topic
[10:33] <jmain_> I have a question.  Does x.org gnome 2.10 have a better copy/paste support?
[10:33] <nalioth> Fabian: do you see Fabian-linux in the future?
[10:33] <philuk86> does anyone know if mono will be included in the next release of ubuntu in the main repository?
[10:33] <Seveas> philuk86, it will
[10:33] <Seveas> philuk86, including beagle & tomboy
[10:33] <jmain_> It is the one thing that drives me crazy on my laptop.
[10:33] <hodgman> Seveas: thanks!
[10:33] <LinuxJones> hodgman, your using the us.archive.ubuntu linux repositories ?
[10:34] <kaz> how do I burn an iso in ubuntu?
[10:34] <macarthy> Hi, I'm have problems connecting to the remote desktop manager in ubuntu from a VNC viewer on a mac
[10:34] <kaz> nm
[10:34] <Seveas> kaz, gnomebaker/graveman/k3b
[10:34] <nalioth> kaz: gnomebaker, graveman k3b, cdrecord, blah blah
[10:34] <hodgman> LinuxJones: most likely I'll go check in a sec
[10:34] <Seveas> but you can just mount it
[10:34] <nalioth> macarthy: what exactly is the prob?
[10:34] <LinuxJones> hodgman, remove the us. portion as they are borked atm. then apt-get update and try isntalling again
[10:34] <Fabian> nalioth, do I see Fabian-linux? Yes, I suppose so! I like building up the stuff as I like it! :D Implemented X to work with borland compiler on windows, cause I didnt want to use cygwin f.e. :D
[10:35] <kaz> looks like I can just right click & "Write to disc"  no?  or would just just put iso file on the disk?
[10:35] <scott_> all: it didn't work
[10:35] <nalioth> kaz: i use a program (not nautilus)
[10:35] <macarthy> nalioth: getting a connection refused. on the pref. panel it refers to the local machine as localhost.localdomain:0
[10:35] <scott_> nalioth: it didn't work
[10:36] <kaz> does nautilus do it though?
[10:36] <jmain_> scott_: what happens when you restart X?
[10:36] <nalioth> kaz nautilus has built-in burning capability (similar to XP)
[10:36] <scott_> nalioth: I still don't have the option to change to 1280:1024
[10:37] <Fabian> nalioth, where can I download that book? Im blind or something.... :/
[10:37] <nalioth> scott_: did you "choose" that res when you went thru the dpkg-reconfigure thang?
[10:37] <kaz> but does it burn an .iso file to disc and expand it? or would it just burn the actual iso file to disc?
[10:37] <nalioth> Fabian: there is a 'download' link somewehre there
[10:37] <kaz> I only have 1 CD here... I can't mess up :(
[10:37] <nalioth> kaz i dont use nautilus, i use k3b
[10:37] <scott_> nalioth: there was no option
[10:37] <jmain_> Scott_:What did you choose for your Monitor?
[10:38] <Fabian> nalioth, can't find it... *searchesveryhard"
[10:38] <scott_> nalioth: vesa
[10:38] <nalioth> scott_: theres a section during the process that asks what rez' you want to be able to use
[10:38] <scott_> nalioth: is it possible for you to like vnc me or something
[10:38] <despeeh> scott not easy :)
[10:39] <scott_> :-(
[10:39] <scott_> nalioth: there is no option unless I skipped over it
[10:39] <jmain_> scott_: It sounds like perhaps you did not specify your correct monitor and the system is only showing reduced screen res.
[10:40] <nalioth> scott_: the option is there
[10:40] <despeeh> scott just use SSH connection with jmain or nalioth , they will fix your computer :)
[10:41] <mfabbri> scott_, what's the problem with vnc?
[10:41] <scott_> mfabbri: I have not problem with vnc
[10:41] <nalioth> Fabian: on the left: http://lfs.crash404.com/lfs/news.html
[10:41] <kaz> is there something that I can easily intall with apt-get to burn isos?
[10:42] <nalioth> despeeh: why not you?
[10:42] <nalioth> kaz graveman, gnomebaker, k3b
[10:42] <mfabbri> kaz, you can just use nautilus
[10:43] <slept> kaz, cdrecord
[10:43] <nalioth> scott_: i take no responsiblity if lightning strikes while i'm doing this
[10:43] <kaz> I couldn't find graveman or gnomebaker in apt-cache search
[10:43] <Seveas> kaz, enable universe
[10:43] <kaz> ah
[10:43] <Fabian> nalioth, Get printed?
[10:43] <Matthew_W> Do you guys know of a TCP/IP optimizer for linux that I could install from a deb or rpm
[10:43] <Matthew_W> ?
[10:44] <slept> kaz , cdrecord dev=ATAPI:/dev/hd.. image.iso replace ..  with c or d
[10:45] <Gandalfar> The question that I was asking myself a couple times already, is there ubuntu netinstall image for usb keys?
[10:45] <nalioth> g2g the phone never stops
[10:45] <Seveas> Gandalfar, there is a 50mb netinstall image
[10:45] <Gandalfar> Seveas: great! where? :)
[10:46] <chombee> Am I being a fool or are all 3.5" IDE drives the same, ie.: they're all the same size?
[10:46] <zapada> when are the new ubuntu cds going to ship?
[10:47] <jmain_> chombee: Some may be thicker.  The length and width should be the same.
[10:47] <^thehatsrule^> zapada: check a month or a bit after you sent a req i think
[10:47] <ghita> hello:Can someone help me to play a dvd with totem.I folowed ubuntu guide and totem is still not playing my dvd.I get 'could not open dvd://'
[10:47] <zapada> ^thehatsrule^: i sent request last october for version 4.0
[10:47] <zapada> and i got those
[10:47] <zapada> but i thought they send some every 6months
[10:48] <zapada> (version 5.0)
[10:48] <Gandalfar> zapada: you have to rerequest them :)
[10:48] <Fabian> nalioth_wrkn, found it! :D
[10:48] <zapada> ok
[10:48] <Fabian> i'm gonna read! want a copy of my future distro!?
[10:48] <qpid> Urteilverkndung im jackson prozess!
[10:49] <Seveas> Gandalfar, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/LocalNetInstall
[10:49] <zapada> so... lets make bets on jackson's verdict
[10:49] <biovore> lol
[10:49] <zapada> i say: guilty with 15years prison - no parol
[10:49] <chombee> hmm... well, nobody buy an ME-740 HD enclosure, they suck
[10:50] <Gandalfar> Seveas: isn't this PXE boot stuff?
[10:50] <Seveas> Gandalfar, ehm right...
[10:50] <Seveas> wait
[10:50] <Seveas> i've seen it somewhere...
[10:51] <Fabian> I'm off reading, cu all!
[10:51] <philuk86> he'll get off
[10:51] <Gandalfar> Seveas: you've done this pxe stuff before? I have most of functionality already implemented, I can try it
[10:52] <Fabian> buy Seveas, thanks for your help again. I'm gonna build my own distro now! :D
[10:52] <Gandalfar> Fabian: livecd? :)
[10:52] <Fabian> no, LFS
[10:52] <Razor-X> hmmm, can someone help me getting TeX working?
[10:52] <Fabian> Gandalfar, you want a livecd, or what?
[10:53] <Gandalfar> Fabian: just wondering .. :)
[10:53] <Seveas> Razor-X, install tetex-base tetex-extras
[10:53] <Razor-X> Fabian: why not remaster like Knoppix, or something?
[10:53] <tritium> Razor-X, what's the trouble?
[10:53] <Razor-X> Seveas: that's obvious
[10:53] <Gandalfar> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/LocalNetInstall
[10:53] <Razor-X> dvipdf is crapping on my fonts
[10:53] <Fabian> Gandalfar, Razor-X, I'll inform you when my iso image is online
[10:53] <Seveas> Razor-X, use pdflatex
[10:53] <Razor-X> whereas, the dvi viewer is working fine
[10:53] <tritium> Razor-X, use dvipdfm
[10:53] <Razor-X> Seveas: ok
[10:53] <Razor-X> err, ok
[10:54] <Gandalfar> Fabian: great, gandalfar@gmail.com :)
[10:54] <tritium> As Seveas mentions, pdflatex is great too.  It depends on your needs.
[10:54] <Razor-X> tritium: thanks ;)
[10:54] <Razor-X> Fabian: what's the aim of the distro
[10:54] <Fabian> hang on... *notesdownemail*
[10:54] <Gandalfar> Fabian: I'm into livecd building myself so I might help you with a tip or two :)
[10:54] <Razor-X> tritium: what are the differences?
[10:54] <Seveas> pdflatex rules
[10:54] <tritium> Razor-X, do you have figures in .eps format?
[10:54] <Razor-X> tritium: nothing fancy yet, just learning for the moment
[10:54] <Fabian> Gandalfar, I'm coming back on you! :D
[10:54] <Razor-X> Seveas: that's what i'll start doing ;)
[10:55] <Razor-X> Fabian: what's the goal of the distro?
[10:55] <tritium> Razor-X, okay.  The main difference you'll notice at first is the differnence in which image formats you can use with each approach.
[10:55] <Razor-X> I still have to make my math Live CD, I've read the docs, and have a plan
[10:55] <Fabian> Razor-X, dunno! MY perfect distro! ;) maybe it's YOUR perfect distro too?
[10:55] <Razor-X> tritium: lemme google up the docs
[10:55] <Razor-X> Fabian: you mean, something rivaling Ubuntu?
[10:55] <Fabian> f.e.
[10:55] <Fabian> or Knoppix or whatever
[10:56] <tritium> Razor-X, texdoctk is a very nice tool...
[10:56] <Fabian> being faster, more stable, etc
[10:56] <Fabian> @all we'll see, what I'm able to do! CU
[10:56] <Razor-X> Fabian: good luck then
[10:56] <Fabian> thx
[10:57] <Razor-X> anyways, brb, time to try and make my damned school counselors give me the math course I deserve
[10:59] <glDaher> sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start    gives    sudo: /etc/init.d/sshd: command not found
[10:59] <Seveas> glDaher, install openssh-server
[10:59] <eruin> how is ati linux support these days?
[10:59] <eruin> up to par with nvidia?
[10:59] <biovore> nope
[10:59] <Seveas> eruin, no
[10:59] <eruin> still not? curses. they're cheaper ;)
[10:59] <Seveas> but that's ATI's fault
[11:00] <eruin> ofcourse it is. I just read somewhere that they were going to step up their linux support. and that document was written a LONG time ago
[11:00] <biovore> good 2d support though..
[11:00] <Efwis> how would I get a stack trace for a bug report?
[11:00] <glDaher> I was looking for sshd not openssh ^^
[11:00] <biovore> samething..
[11:00] <kaz> Damnit.  SAME problem. Just redownloaded hoary-install-i386.iso from cdimage.ubuntu.org .... still getting debootstrap error @ coreutils. Wtf.
[11:00] <Seveas> glDaher, openssh-server is sshd..
[11:01] <LokeDK> Does Ubuntu come with XFree86 or xorg ? Can't find out
[11:01] <aimaz> firefox is bugging me to upgrade, my current version is 1.0.2, the latest being 1.0.4 i think, there is a 1.0.4 in breezy, currently I'm on hoary, what do you guys reccomend?
[11:01] <aimaz> LokeDK, xorg
[11:01] <Seveas> aimaz, ff in hoari IS 1.0.4
[11:01] <aimaz> well mine did
[11:01] <LokeDK> Good thanks
[11:01] <biovore> ^ rgr that..
[11:01] <Seveas> it has all security patches applied
[11:01] <eruin> anyone on ubuntu/amd64 here?
[11:02] <Seveas> they just did not change the version number
[11:02] <aimaz> Seveas, ok, ta
[11:03] <kaz> does anyone know what this debootstrap error @ coreutils during install is about?
[11:03] <kaz> I cant find anything relevant on google.
[11:04] <biovore> you compiling coreutils from source?
[11:04] <kaz> I've downloaded 3 different isos now (one of kubuntu) tried multiple CD-rom drives. The install errors at the same spot every time.
[11:04] <kaz> from the installer.
[11:04] <biovore> deb probablem..
[11:04] <biovore> hmmm
[11:05] <kaz> wouldn't other people have the same problem?
[11:05] <scott_> Can somebody help me set my resolution to 1280x1024?
[11:05] <kaz> it says "couldn't retrieve coreutils"
[11:05] <chillywilly> anyone know of an easy way to burn an audio cd (nautilus? rhythmbox?)
[11:06] <biovore> coreutils missing on the mirror maybe..
[11:06] <Seveas>  kaz burn the iso at a lower speed
[11:06] <zapada> DIE MICHAEL
[11:06] <tritium> chillywilly, graveman or gnomebaker
[11:06] <biovore> debootstrap is the tool that pulls stuff of the web to makes the base image to starting installing stuff too..
[11:06] <scott_> I cannot set my resolution to 1280x1024 can somebody please help me?
[11:06] <Seveas> biovore, it pulls it from the cd...
[11:07] <Seveas> coreutils has not been updated since the release...
[11:07] <biovore> yeah, with the ubuntu disk set..
[11:07] <biovore> scott: check you horiz and vertrefresh in xorg.conf
[11:07] <TokenBad> a friend wants to of any linux distro with windows enviroment that will work on 400 mhz with 64 megs of ram laptop
[11:07] <kaz> seveas: I'm burning at 8x.
[11:08] <kaz> I was originally burning at like 16x
[11:08] <kaz> I would think 8x would be low enough?
[11:08] <TokenBad> I always burn at 4x
[11:08] <biovore> check the md5sum of the cd after burning..
[11:08] <TokenBad> just to be safe
[11:08] <Seveas> kaz, indeed, i assume you checked the md5sums...
[11:08] <kaz> hmm yeah.  I'm trying different media now too.
[11:09] <TokenBad> anyone know of a distro that would work for him?
[11:09] <tritium> aimaz, to be clear it's 1.0.2, with all the security fixes from 1.0.4.
[11:09] <kaz> I have been using this cheap ass GQ media. Maybe that is the problem.
[11:09] <biovore> TokenBad, knoppix is a good start..  but most of the newer stuff will run like a slug on that..
[11:09] <LinuxJones> TokenBad, there is damn small linux
[11:09] <Seveas> TokenBad, ubuntu with xfce or fluxbox
[11:10] <biovore> ^ thats a intressting disto..
[11:10] <tritium> aimaz, if you need to, go to "about:config", and set "general:useragent:vendorSub" to "1.0.4", and you're all set
[11:10] <aimaz> tritium, ok thanks :)
[11:10] <tritium> aimaz, sure :)  You'll be able to use extensions and themes, etc...
[11:11] <TokenBad> LinuxJones, know the name of it?
[11:11] <TokenBad> but he wants one with a windows enviroment
[11:11] <LinuxJones> TokenBad, Damn Small Linux :)
[11:11] <TokenBad> like gnome or kde
[11:11] <TokenBad> or something like that
[11:12] <Seveas> TokenBad, xfce
[11:12] <Seveas> really good and not too heavy on resources
[11:12] <LinuxJones> TokenBad, xfce or icewm are good candidates for that machine
[11:12] <Seveas> so UBuntu with xfce would be a good option
[11:13] <min> hi!!!
[11:13] <min> could someone help me???
[11:13] <min> :)
[11:13] <TokenBad> ok
[11:13] <Seveas> min, read the topic
[11:13] <Seveas> just ask
[11:13] <min> i have just installed ubunto on my pc...
[11:14] <min> ...but the refresh frequence that i can chose is only 60hz!
[11:15] <TokenBad> Seveas, if he used xfce what version of nix should he get and put that on?
[11:15] <scott_> for some reason when I do sudo apt-get install alsamixergui
[11:15] <Seveas> TokenBad, aptitude install xfce4
[11:16] <scott_> for some reason when I do sudo apt-get install alsamixergui it says unable to fetch some archives
[11:16] <glDaher> min you should install the graphics driver first, if you are nvidia at least..
[11:16] <TokenBad> so he could get ubuntu and then install xfce?
[11:16] <FaeWolfe> Would this be the right place to ask for help ?
[11:16] <skora> faewolfe, yes, and on the forum as well
[11:17] <glDaher> min: what is your graphics card?
[11:17] <FaeWolfe> Good, I'm having trouble trying to install a few things..........forgive me, I'm a newbie...............
[11:17] <scott_> for some reason when I do sudo apt-get install alsamixergui it says unable to fetch some archives
[11:17] <Seveas> scott_, see topic :)
[11:17] <TokenBad> Seveas, he could get ubuntu and then install xfce? or should he get something different?
[11:18] <FaeWolfe> I can't get the dvd player to play, says it can't read the disk, but it worked in windows.......
[11:18] <skora> k
[11:18] <scott_> seveas: It says have a question just ask
[11:18] <FaeWolfe> but it does show that it's there and says the title of the disk
[11:18] <TMM> FaeWolfe, you probably need to install libdvdcss2
[11:18] <Seveas> TokenBad, install ubuntu with the server option and install x-window-system and xfce4 afterwards
[11:18] <Seveas> scott_, the part next to it
[11:18] <FaeWolfe> TMM ..how ?
[11:18] <Seveas> about us.archive being down
[11:18] <scott_> seveas: oh wow that got cut off
[11:19] <TMM> FaeWolfe, check out www.ubuntuguide.org :) it's the all you can eat pimp-my-ubuntu page :)
[11:19] <skora> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#dvdplayback
[11:19] <flodine> michael jackson is free to play with kids again
[11:19] <skora> Faewolfe, that section
[11:19] <scott_> seveas: how do I change
[11:19] <flodine> not guity
[11:19] <FaeWolfe> okies thank you
[11:19] <Seveas> scott_: To switch to a working mirror type the following:  sudo sed -e 's/us.archive/archive/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update
[11:19] <FaeWolfe> will try that
[11:19] <skora> ok, I don't really care.
[11:19] <skora> [to that jackson guy] 
[11:20] <scott_> seveas: terminal knows what && means?
[11:20] <flodine> who cares if you dont sare
[11:20] <Seveas> scott_, yes
[11:20] <scott_> seveas: impressive
[11:20] <tritium> flodine, please, that's off topic
[11:20] <scott_> seveas: can you do ||
[11:21] <Seveas> scott_, yes
[11:21] <scott_> seveas: lol
[11:21] <Seveas> but that would not have the desired effect
[11:21] <Seveas> (in this case)
[11:22] <scott_> seveas: thank you
[11:22] <Seveas> yw
[11:23] <scott_> seveas: I am trying to get my sound card working but it isn't even listed in alsa mixer
[11:23] <glDaher> just installed openssh client and server... and I don't have sshd in my /etc/init.d
[11:23] <glDaher> 
[11:23] <glDaher> though I have ssh
[11:23] <Seveas>  /etc/init.d/ssh
[11:24] <Seveas> not sshd
[11:24] <Seveas> scott_, sorry, i'm no audio wizzard
[11:24] <TokenBad> Seveas, so once he installed ubuntu
[11:24] <scott_> seveas: can you connect to my comp and try to fix it, It could be some obvious error
[11:25] <TokenBad> he could do apt-get install x-window-system
[11:25] <nalioth> scott_: are you still on about that?
[11:25] <TokenBad> and apt-get install xfce4
[11:25] <Seveas> TokenBad, yes
[11:25] <TokenBad> ok
[11:25] <Seveas> scott_, no i cannot do that, it's 23:25 here and i'm going to bed soon
[11:25] <glDaher> grr, * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...                                      [fail] 
[11:25] <scott_> seveas: okay thanks anyway
[11:26] <nalioth> scott_: have you installed a vnc server?
[11:26] <TokenBad> thanks Seveas
[11:26] <Matthew_W> I've been told that running on AC power frags your laptop -- is there validity to this?
[11:26] <Seveas> Matthew_W, only on laptops with old NiCad batterys
[11:26] <scott_> seveas: I think so
[11:26] <scott_> seveas: if I vncviewer myself it works
[11:26] <Seveas> if you have a Li_ION battery it's ok to run on AC
[11:26] <nalioth> scott_: are you talking to me?
[11:27] <scott_> ok
[11:27] <nalioth> night Seveas
[11:27] <tritium> see you Seveas
[11:27] <TokenBad> take care Seveas
[11:27] <TokenBad> and thanks again
[11:27] <scott_> thanks!
[11:28] <glDaher> yeah thanks Seveas
[11:29] <kaz> ugh. Still didn't work.  Ok how do i check the md5 of a mounted cd?
[11:31] <Matthew_W> Seveas:  so it's okay to leave my laptop running on AC for 11+ hours to download a humongous file?
[11:32] <tritium> Matthew_W, what type of battery do you have?
[11:34] <kaz> anyone know how to check md5 vcalue of a cd?
[11:35] <tritium> kaz, check the md5sum of the .iso file before you burn it to cd
[11:36] <nalioth> kaz: you asked that before and it was answered
[11:36] <TokenBad> shoot
[11:36] <FaeWolfe> I'm still having trouble with dvd playback... :(
[11:36] <TokenBad> I should have asked Seveas a question before he left
[11:37] <PhantomFreak> How do I get mozilla / firefox to connect across a dial-up connection rather than ignoring it and looking towards the ethernet.
[11:37] <FaeWolfe> and it won't get libdvdcss2
[11:37] <TokenBad> phantom
[11:37] <TokenBad> do edit
[11:38] <TokenBad> preferences
[11:38] <TokenBad> connections
[11:38] <TokenBad> and I think auto detect
[11:38] <TokenBad> I think
[11:38] <TokenBad> don't quote me
[11:38] <chillywilly> um, when I insert an audio CD nautilus show the wav files but I cannot copy them to my Desktop
[11:39] <jotm1124> howdy
[11:39] <chillywilly> will show
[11:39] <PhantomFreak> Had it on auto all the tim... Doesn't work!
[11:39] <kaz> the md5sum of the iso file matches.  I'm not sure what the problem is here.
[11:39] <kaz> I guess I'll have to try to burn at 4x now.
[11:40] <synd> kaz: whats the prob?
[11:40] <nalioth> kaz: is your hardware functional? no cat hair, its not ancient hardware, etc?
[11:40] <kaz> debootstrap error @ coreutils during install.
[11:40] <tritium> chillywilly, why not use cdda2wav, or a similar tool?
[11:41] <synd> kaz: a user was in here yesterday and thought he had cd burning problems, and it turned out to be the actual drive on the computer that he was trying to install on
[11:41] <kaz> and yes, my harddware is clean... I've tried ubuntu, kubuntu, multiple cd-r media types, lower recording speeds, different recorders & different cd-rom drives.
[11:41] <kaz> sam error every time.
[11:41] <chillywilly> tritium: umm, well why is nautilus showing them as wav files if I cannot manipulate them as files
[11:41] <chillywilly> tritium: it's way easier to drag and drop? ;^)
[11:41] <tritium> chillywilly, you said it's an audio cd, right?
[11:41] <chillywilly> yes
[11:42] <chillywilly> I assume nautilus is using a virtual file system type thing under the hood so it should do the conversion if I decide to drag them off
[11:42] <kaz> I've also tried with and without networking.
[11:42] <Matthew_W> tritium:  sorry it took so long - it's a lithium ion
[11:42] <tritium> I don't think so, chillywilly
[11:43] <tritium> Matthew_W, you should be fine with lithium ion.  They dont' have the memory effect problems that NiCd do.
[11:43] <chillywilly> tritium: don't think so what?
[11:43] <kaz> I'm going to try a 3rd cd-rom drive now.
[11:43] <tritium> kaz, if you've had problems with multiple CD images, the the problem is not likely to be the md5sum of the ubuntu .iso
[11:43] <Matthew_W> Thanks
[11:43] <tritium> chillywilly, that you can copy .wav files from an audio cd
[11:43] <tantris> Hi! I just installed ubuntu but no gdm is installed? any idea why?
[11:44] <FaeWolfe> Does anyone have any suggestions other than the unofficial ubuntu guide for being able to get libdvdcss2?
[11:44] <tritium> FaeWolfe, where did you try to get it from?  ftp.nerim.net?
[11:44] <chillywilly> tritium: yea, ok but if it will let me browse them and play them by holding the mouse over them then I would think "copy" would be a legal file operation...I was just stating that it *should* work that way, it seems logical
[11:45] <FaeWolfe> tritium, I followed what it said in the guide                :(
[11:45] <chillywilly> tritium: I know I can lways use grip or a command line tool ;)
[11:45] <kaz> tritium:: thats what I had thought as well.
[11:45] <chillywilly> always*
[11:45] <FaeWolfe> I even did what it said to get the other repositories
[11:46] <tritium> chillywilly, such "legal file operations" would require a mounted filesystem
[11:46] <xophEr> If I want to add a user to /etc/sudoers with visudo, what do I need to type in? lets say the username is joeblack.
[11:47] <eruin> how is nforce3 vs nforce4 support on linux?
[11:47] <chillywilly> does a virtual file system imply that it has to be a *mounted* file system? I would hope not
[11:47] <berniv6> nforce3 is good, I heard bad things about the NIC part of nforce4
[11:47] <eruin> yeah, I've heard its' more unstable than california
[11:47] <tritium> xophEr, add your user to the admin group
[11:48] <nalioth> xophEr: google "vi for dummies" or "vi keystrokes" visudo uses the vi key commands
[11:48] <eruin> but it does have pciexpress :P
[11:48] <chillywilly> tritium: it also gives the impression of mounting by throwing an icon on the Desktop too
[11:48] <xophEr> tritium, thanks
[11:48] <giangi82> hi!
[11:50] <giangi82> does anybody know how to change Mime-type icons on gnome? :-)
[11:51] <giangi82> no one knows? :-(
[11:52] <nalioth> jseattle the unix king
[11:53] <jf6> I have a problem with Ennemy territory
[11:53] <jf6> who can help me?
[11:53] <Matthew_W> Anyone know anything about linux TCP/IP tweaking, please help me out.
[11:53] <jf6> I have a problem with Ennemy territory
[11:53] <jf6> who can help me?
[11:54] <Matthew_W> I'm trying to get my TCP/IP setings optimized to the point that I can get a much faster kbps rate than I currently do -- to be honest, the d/l's were faster on windoze... this is not an unlivable problem, but it's something I'd like dealt with
[11:54] <giangi82> hi jf6, hy Matthew, i can't help you with Enemi territory or linux TCP/IP tweaking... but can u help me with mime-type icons under gnome? :-)
[11:54] <Matthew_W> jf6:  Be more specific
[11:54] <giangi82> Mattew are u using a router?
[11:54] <Matthew_W> giangi82:  Did you look in system, preferences, themes?
[11:54] <tantris> Can anyone tell me if it is correct that ubuntu is not booting into x after first installation?
[11:54] <Matthew_W> giangi82: Nope.
[11:55] <jf6> Mattew_W cannot write hunkusage.dat
[11:55] <Matthew_W> tantrs: it should go into x
[11:55] <Matthew_W> tantris: it should load gnome
[11:55] <exjinn> tantris: it went into x for me
[11:55] <exjinn> up to gdm
[11:55] <Matthew_W> jf6:  Try running it as root.
[11:55] <jf6> ok i do that now
[11:55] <jf6> i will back
[11:55] <eruin> eek, pciexpress cars have become cheaper than agp
[11:56] <a-l-e> hello back with the same question: can anybody help me booting ubuntu from a fire wire external disk?
[11:56] <tantris> Matthew_W: hmm strange it even has gdm not installed, not in /etc/init.d/gdm!
[11:56] <tantris> btw. I did a pxeboot installation
[11:56] <nalioth> a-l-e methinks that'll take some grub hacking
[11:56] <Matthew_W> tantris:  O_O
[11:56] <nalioth> a-l-e: unless of course you are using a macintosh
[11:56] <Matthew_W> tantris:  can you run an apt-get ?
[11:57] <a-l-e> nalioth: mac... it's a yaboot hacking...
[11:57] <tantris> Matthew_W: yes
[11:57] <giangi82> Matthew,  i know how to change icon theme... my problem is that i can't add new mime types (for examle: i'd like to use a real player icon for *.3gp files)
[11:57] <nalioth> a-l-e: then screw yaboot
[11:57] <xophEr> Sorry, user xopher is not allowed to execute '/usr/bin/lspci' as root on localhost.localdomain. This is what I get when I added 'xopher ALL= (ALL) ALL' to user specification, do I need to add anything else?
[11:57] <nalioth> a-l-e: use open firmware
[11:57] <a-l-e> how?
[11:57] <Matthew_W> Because if so, I strongly reccomend apt-get with an install flag, all of the gnome packages (or kde, etc.)
[11:58] <nalioth> a-l-e: when you hear the chime, hold down the <option> key (with the fw drive plugged in, of course>
[11:58] <tantris> Matthew_W: I now did a aptitude -y install '~tubuntu-desktop' and that got me gdm now
[11:58] <tritium> tantris, sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[11:58] <Matthew_W> tantris:  goof
[11:58] <adam_> mathew
[11:58] <Matthew_W> tantris:  good*
[11:58] <adam_> thx
[11:58] <adam_> matthew_w thx
[11:58] <a-l-e> nalioth: mmmh... the problem is that yaboot couldn't install properly on the fw-disk.
[11:59] <adam_> so
[11:59] <Matthew_W> adam_:  I don't remember helping you, but whatever I did, you're welcome.
[11:59] <adam_> lol
[11:59] <tantris> Matthew_W: do you know what the ~t stands for?
[11:59] <adam_> with my problem with ET
[11:59] <nalioth> a-l-e: ah crap (my mind is rusty)
[11:59] <adam_> lol
[11:59] <giangi82> lol =)
[11:59] <adam_> ++
[11:59] <exjinn> anyone have any luck getting their FN option keys to work on a laptop? specifically i'm using a dell latitude c600
[11:59] <Matthew_W> adam: oh -- worked then?  good.
[11:59] <nalioth> a-l-e: you can install yaboot on the fw drive
[11:59] <Matthew_W> exjinn: I can only get a few of them to work.
[11:59] <Matthew_W> ACER aspire 3500
[11:59] <exjinn> the only one I'm really concerned about is the brightness