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| JRe | hello! | 09:56 |
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| \sh | Riddell: ping.. | 11:45 |
| Riddell | \sh: honk | 11:46 |
| \sh | Riddell: i reviews kdebluetooth and u mentioned another package yesterday, i forgot... | 11:48 |
| \sh | reviewed even | 11:48 |
| Riddell | \sh: http://jr.falleri.free.fr/fichiers/kubuntu/katapult/ | 11:49 |
| Riddell | http://jr.falleri.free.fr/fichiers/kubuntu/speedcrunch/ | 11:49 |
| Riddell | http://jr.falleri.free.fr/fichiers/kubuntu/ktvschedule/ | 11:51 |
| \sh | okokok :) | 11:51 |
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| JRe | Riddell: should it be a good idea to create a page for applications waiting for a new maintainer (like orphaned packages in debian) for KDE ? | 12:50 |
| JRe | sort of adopt your KDE apps | 12:50 |
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| Riddell | JRe: could do yes | 01:06 |
| JRe | Riddell: where would be the right place to put such a place? kubuntu wiki ? | 01:07 |
| JRe | s/place/page/ | 01:08 |
| Riddell | JRe: either KDEMOTU or just MOTU | 01:09 |
| JRe | Riddell: hum in fact i was talking about application no more beeing developped but good enough to be adopted by new coder | 01:12 |
| Riddell | ah, that's different from debian orphaned packages I think | 01:13 |
| Riddell | I guess Kubuntu would be the place to parent from | 01:13 |
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| Riddell | JRe: I'm trying kay | 03:21 |
| Riddell | JRe: all I get is "object not accessible" | 03:21 |
| JRe | when you're calling it by dcop ? | 03:23 |
| Riddell | yes | 03:23 |
| JRe | mmm | 03:23 |
| Riddell | dcop kded kayd devicePlugged /media/sda1/ /dev/sda1 foo | 03:23 |
| JRe | it's the right command | 03:23 |
| Riddell | this is hoary | 03:24 |
| JRe | Riddell: it's strange because it works on my computer | 03:24 |
| JRe | (at work) | 03:24 |
| JRe | Riddell: try on your home dir | 03:25 |
| JRe | => /home/user /dev/sda1 foo | 03:25 |
| Riddell | >dcop kded kayd devicePlugged /home/jr /dev/sda1 foo | 03:28 |
| Riddell | object not accessible | 03:28 |
| JRe | Riddell: what is the version you have ? | 03:28 |
| JRe | (of the package?) | 03:28 |
| Riddell | kay 0.3 | 03:28 |
| JRe | okay | 03:28 |
| JRe | you're running amd 64 ? | 03:29 |
| Riddell | no, pentium | 03:29 |
| JRe | and of course the kay kded module is started ? | 03:29 |
| JRe | Riddell: okay i think that is the error: you have to start the service because when i stop it i have the same output | 03:30 |
| JRe | (you can found it in the control panel) | 03:31 |
| Riddell | aah | 03:31 |
| Riddell | kbuildsycoca had broken permissions | 03:31 |
| JRe | Riddell: so you successfully could to get it work ? | 03:34 |
| Riddell | yes | 03:34 |
| JRe | ;) | 03:35 |
| Riddell | so.. what can this baby do? | 03:35 |
| JRe | Riddell: there is also a KCModule in order to configure actions | 03:35 |
| JRe | you can set up custom action | 03:35 |
| JRe | and automatic action performing based on the device name | 03:36 |
| JRe | it's all for the moment but i an open to all suggestion to improve it ;) | 03:36 |
| Riddell | can we get it so with an audio CD for example it offers a choice of playing or ripping? | 03:39 |
| JRe | Riddell: yeah but we need a method to discover that this is a cd audio but it should be possible | 03:40 |
| JRe | Riddell: that is dialog style i want to implement it like usb device dialog, cd dialog style | 03:40 |
| JRe | Riddell: but i am wondering if the kio media can be the right way do that (it would be independent of the auto mounter) | 03:42 |
| Riddell | it should open up media:/sda1 rather than file:///media/sda1 | 03:43 |
| JRe | Riddell: yeah that's why i want to use the media slave to perform the dcop call ;) | 03:44 |
| JRe | Riddell: but do you thing that at least the concept is interresting? | 03:45 |
| JRe | s/thing/think/ | 03:46 |
| Riddell | it is indeed | 03:47 |
| JRe | so i may open a sourceforge account, in order to put in in real developent | 03:49 |
| \sh | Riddell: re....do u think it's save to do an update to breezy for kde stuff? | 03:49 |
| Riddell | JRe: cool | 03:50 |
| Riddell | \sh: kde should be OK, not sure about X but I expect it's fine | 03:50 |
| JRe | Riddell: do you know the name of the person in charge of the kio-media ? | 03:50 |
| \sh | Riddell: ok...if i'm not making it to the meeting this evening u know why ;) | 03:50 |
| Riddell | \sh: going for maintainership/ | 03:53 |
| Riddell | ? | 03:53 |
| \sh | Riddell: no..updating to breezy :) | 03:53 |
| Riddell | \sh: your name is on https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MaintainerCandidates | 03:56 |
| \sh | ...hmmm | 03:57 |
| \sh | thats old already | 03:57 |
| Riddell | you should edit it | 03:58 |
| \sh | done | 04:00 |
| \sh | did u see the list of "needs to show up again" | 04:00 |
| Riddell | briefly | 04:01 |
| Riddell | who is this JeanRemyFalleri chappy? | 04:02 |
| JRe | it's me | 04:02 |
| Riddell | :) | 04:02 |
| Riddell | JRe: are you a member? | 04:03 |
| JRe | no but i show up at he next council | 04:03 |
| Riddell | wondering why your name is on maintainership list when you arn't a member yet | 04:04 |
| JRe | okay i erase it ;) | 04:04 |
| JRe | (i missunderstood the procedure and forgot putting my name) | 04:05 |
| JRe | done | 04:09 |
| Riddell | sorted | 04:11 |
| elmo | Riddell: what's this gettext-kde about? | 05:09 |
| Riddell | elmo: it's the version of gettext as used by KDE | 05:09 |
| elmo | why a duplicate source package? why not modify the main gettext one? | 05:09 |
| elmo | and 'systemsettings' is very namespace polluting - could it be called kde-systemsettings or ksystemsettings or something instead? | 05:10 |
| Riddell | elmo: the gettext source is the one supplied by KDE, it has various modifications to the normal gettext but they arn't separated at all so I can't pick them out | 05:12 |
| Riddell | http://www.mirror.ac.uk/sites/ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/devel/gettext-kde/ | 05:12 |
| Riddell | elmo: the upstream name is just systemsettings | 05:12 |
| elmo | maybe so, but I can guarantee it's not going to get into Debian with that name | 05:12 |
| elmo | it's just far too generic | 05:13 |
| elmo | (c.f. gnome-control-centre is gnome-control-centre, not upstream's control-centre) | 05:13 |
| Riddell | I could rename it to kde-systemsettings then | 05:13 |
| elmo | is this something that's going to go into Debian? can you check what they plan to do? I'm kind of keen on avoiding package name divergence if we can | 05:14 |
| Riddell | the debian packagers havn't looked at it I'm pretty sure | 05:14 |
| elmo | ok | 05:15 |
| elmo | gettext-kde FTBFS for me? | 05:17 |
| Riddell | working for me, what's the error? | 05:19 |
| elmo | try building it on concordia breezy | 05:20 |
| elmo | I'll get the error I got once I finish upgrading thew chroot | 05:20 |
| Riddell | ../lib/getline.h:31: error: conflicting types for 'getline' not good | 05:23 |
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| elmo | Riddell: dude, what requires this exactly? surely not mainline KDE? it's a super old copy of gettext | 06:11 |
| Riddell | elmo: yes, that's what is used by mainline KDE | 06:11 |
| Riddell | it's got modifications to add various features, it works so it's never been updated | 06:11 |
| elmo | you mean like, 3.4 requires this? | 06:12 |
| Riddell | elmo: it requires it to create the .pot translation files | 06:12 |
| froud | elmo part of kdesdk | 06:12 |
| Riddell | which is all normally done upstream, but for rosetta we need to do it ourselves | 06:12 |
| Riddell | froud: it's not part of kdesdk | 06:12 |
| froud | well sdk install it | 06:13 |
| Riddell | my gettext-kde package includes a couple of scripts from kdesdk that are also needed for the .pot creation | 06:13 |
| froud | Hmmm my mistake KDESDK has po2xml | 06:14 |
| froud | and pot2xml | 06:14 |
| froud | which needs gettext | 06:14 |
| froud | xml2po there 2 somewhere | 06:14 |
| froud | docteam are also using these tools to feed rosetta and manage i18n | 06:16 |
| Riddell | elmo: do you know if QPL programmes are allowed in Ubuntu? | 06:45 |
| elmo | Riddell: pure QPL? | 06:46 |
| elmo | offhand, I'd say yes | 06:46 |
| Riddell | cool | 06:46 |
| mdz | Riddell: does the gettext in Breezy not work in this context? | 06:48 |
| mdz | the parser seems to have been completely reworked, and is much more sophisticated | 06:50 |
| KaiL | wow, kubuntu-desktop installable :)) | 06:58 |
| allee | KaiL: so now hoary -> breezy works now more than less ? | 07:02 |
| KaiL | you can at least install it, but I can't say you, if everything works | 07:02 |
| allee | KaiL: that's more than good enough for me ;) | 07:03 |
| KaiL | known problems for now: | 07:06 |
| KaiL | - amarok and/or arsd crash after some time | 07:07 |
| KaiL | - media:/ is quite dead | 07:07 |
| KaiL | ..+ the bugs I haven't seen :) | 07:08 |
| KaiL | uhm, no menu entries for oo2? | 07:14 |
| KaiL | the app itself if quite good KDE lookalike | 07:18 |
| Riddell | mdz: my understanding is that the KDE extensions to gettext mean a standard gettext won't work | 07:18 |
| KaiL | except the menu fonts (to big imho) | 07:18 |
| mdz | Riddell: the only things changed have to do with parsing C/C++ code | 07:24 |
| mdz | Riddell: do you know of a test case where standard gettext (modern versions) won't work? | 07:25 |
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| mdz | Riddell: also, did you receive my bug report about kscreensaver-xsavers? | 09:51 |
| Riddell | mdz: change depends from xscreensaver-nognome to xscreensaver, I can take a look at that tomorrow | 10:22 |
| Riddell | mdz: looks like i18n scripty maintainer is away for the night, I'll ask again for exact details, but I'm sure there's a reason why that version of xgettext is still used | 10:23 |
| mdz | Riddell: let's find out what the underlying issues are, and we'll decide what to do based on that | 10:23 |
| Riddell | elmo: for systemsettings should it be the source or just the binary that is renamed? | 10:53 |
| Riddell | elmo: and does the binary (rather than just binary package) have to be renamed? | 10:58 |
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| Mez | hey all | 10:59 |
| elmo | Riddell: binary package definitely has to be; source and binary itself is up to you; personally I'd recommend renaming both, but I'm not going to be ultra-fascist over it | 11:03 |
| elmo | Riddell: also I'm going to reject gettext-kde for now,just because having it in limbo in NEW makes things painful for me - feel free to reupload when the issues are resolved/decided | 11:04 |
| Riddell | elmo: ok | 11:04 |
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