=== KabelKasper [~vloechte@i5387DD9F.versanet.de] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] === netjoined: irc.freenode.net -> orwell.freenode.net === KaiL [KaiL@p548F7D02.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [~ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === amu [~amu@80.237.210.60] has joined #kubuntu-devel === crimsun [~crimsun@crimsun.silver.supporter.pdpc] has joined #kubuntu-devel === froud [~sean@ndn-165-146-74.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === opi [~emil@nat0.mnc.pl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === froud [~froud@ndn-165-146-74.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === JRe [~jre@adsl-169-178.36-151.net24.it] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:56] hello! === KabelKasper [~vloechte@i5387D007.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:45] <\sh> Riddell: ping.. [11:46] \sh: honk [11:48] <\sh> Riddell: i reviews kdebluetooth and u mentioned another package yesterday, i forgot... [11:48] <\sh> reviewed even [11:49] \sh: http://jr.falleri.free.fr/fichiers/kubuntu/katapult/ [11:49] http://jr.falleri.free.fr/fichiers/kubuntu/speedcrunch/ [11:51] http://jr.falleri.free.fr/fichiers/kubuntu/ktvschedule/ [11:51] <\sh> okokok :) === ro28 [~rohan@210.49.249.142] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ro28 [~rohan@210.49.249.142] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === doko_ [~doko___@dsl-084-059-033-037.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:50] Riddell: should it be a good idea to create a page for applications waiting for a new maintainer (like orphaned packages in debian) for KDE ? [12:50] sort of adopt your KDE apps === Wolvy [~chatzilla@host76-38.pool80183.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:06] JRe: could do yes [01:07] Riddell: where would be the right place to put such a place? kubuntu wiki ? [01:08] s/place/page/ [01:09] JRe: either KDEMOTU or just MOTU [01:12] Riddell: hum in fact i was talking about application no more beeing developped but good enough to be adopted by new coder [01:13] ah, that's different from debian orphaned packages I think [01:13] I guess Kubuntu would be the place to parent from === KabelKasper [~vloechte@i5387D007.versanet.de] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] [03:21] JRe: I'm trying kay [03:21] JRe: all I get is "object not accessible" [03:23] when you're calling it by dcop ? [03:23] yes [03:23] mmm [03:23] dcop kded kayd devicePlugged /media/sda1/ /dev/sda1 foo [03:23] it's the right command [03:24] this is hoary [03:24] Riddell: it's strange because it works on my computer [03:24] (at work) [03:25] Riddell: try on your home dir [03:25] => /home/user /dev/sda1 foo [03:28] >dcop kded kayd devicePlugged /home/jr /dev/sda1 foo [03:28] object not accessible [03:28] Riddell: what is the version you have ? [03:28] (of the package?) [03:28] kay 0.3 [03:28] okay [03:29] you're running amd 64 ? [03:29] no, pentium [03:29] and of course the kay kded module is started ? [03:30] Riddell: okay i think that is the error: you have to start the service because when i stop it i have the same output [03:31] (you can found it in the control panel) [03:31] aah [03:31] kbuildsycoca had broken permissions [03:34] Riddell: so you successfully could to get it work ? [03:34] yes [03:35] ;) [03:35] so.. what can this baby do? [03:35] Riddell: there is also a KCModule in order to configure actions [03:35] you can set up custom action [03:36] and automatic action performing based on the device name [03:36] it's all for the moment but i an open to all suggestion to improve it ;) [03:39] can we get it so with an audio CD for example it offers a choice of playing or ripping? [03:40] Riddell: yeah but we need a method to discover that this is a cd audio but it should be possible [03:40] Riddell: that is dialog style i want to implement it like usb device dialog, cd dialog style [03:42] Riddell: but i am wondering if the kio media can be the right way do that (it would be independent of the auto mounter) [03:43] it should open up media:/sda1 rather than file:///media/sda1 [03:44] Riddell: yeah that's why i want to use the media slave to perform the dcop call ;) [03:45] Riddell: but do you thing that at least the concept is interresting? [03:46] s/thing/think/ [03:47] it is indeed [03:49] so i may open a sourceforge account, in order to put in in real developent [03:49] <\sh> Riddell: re....do u think it's save to do an update to breezy for kde stuff? [03:50] JRe: cool [03:50] \sh: kde should be OK, not sure about X but I expect it's fine [03:50] Riddell: do you know the name of the person in charge of the kio-media ? [03:50] <\sh> Riddell: ok...if i'm not making it to the meeting this evening u know why ;) [03:53] \sh: going for maintainership/ [03:53] ? [03:53] <\sh> Riddell: no..updating to breezy :) [03:56] \sh: your name is on https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MaintainerCandidates [03:57] <\sh> ...hmmm [03:57] <\sh> thats old already [03:58] you should edit it [04:00] <\sh> done [04:00] <\sh> did u see the list of "needs to show up again" [04:01] briefly [04:02] who is this JeanRemyFalleri chappy? [04:02] it's me [04:02] :) [04:03] JRe: are you a member? [04:03] no but i show up at he next council [04:04] wondering why your name is on maintainership list when you arn't a member yet [04:04] okay i erase it ;) [04:05] (i missunderstood the procedure and forgot putting my name) [04:09] done [04:11] sorted [05:09] Riddell: what's this gettext-kde about? [05:09] elmo: it's the version of gettext as used by KDE [05:09] why a duplicate source package? why not modify the main gettext one? [05:10] and 'systemsettings' is very namespace polluting - could it be called kde-systemsettings or ksystemsettings or something instead? [05:12] elmo: the gettext source is the one supplied by KDE, it has various modifications to the normal gettext but they arn't separated at all so I can't pick them out [05:12] http://www.mirror.ac.uk/sites/ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/devel/gettext-kde/ [05:12] elmo: the upstream name is just systemsettings [05:12] maybe so, but I can guarantee it's not going to get into Debian with that name [05:13] it's just far too generic [05:13] (c.f. gnome-control-centre is gnome-control-centre, not upstream's control-centre) [05:13] I could rename it to kde-systemsettings then [05:14] is this something that's going to go into Debian? can you check what they plan to do? I'm kind of keen on avoiding package name divergence if we can [05:14] the debian packagers havn't looked at it I'm pretty sure [05:15] ok [05:17] gettext-kde FTBFS for me? [05:19] working for me, what's the error? [05:20] try building it on concordia breezy [05:20] I'll get the error I got once I finish upgrading thew chroot [05:23] ../lib/getline.h:31: error: conflicting types for 'getline' not good === mdz [~mdz@ca-studio-bsr1o-251.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [~ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === froud [~sean@ndn-165-146-74.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:11] Riddell: dude, what requires this exactly? surely not mainline KDE? it's a super old copy of gettext [06:11] elmo: yes, that's what is used by mainline KDE [06:11] it's got modifications to add various features, it works so it's never been updated [06:12] you mean like, 3.4 requires this? [06:12] elmo: it requires it to create the .pot translation files [06:12] elmo part of kdesdk [06:12] which is all normally done upstream, but for rosetta we need to do it ourselves [06:12] froud: it's not part of kdesdk [06:13] well sdk install it [06:13] my gettext-kde package includes a couple of scripts from kdesdk that are also needed for the .pot creation [06:14] Hmmm my mistake KDESDK has po2xml [06:14] and pot2xml [06:14] which needs gettext [06:14] xml2po there 2 somewhere [06:16] docteam are also using these tools to feed rosetta and manage i18n [06:45] elmo: do you know if QPL programmes are allowed in Ubuntu? [06:46] Riddell: pure QPL? [06:46] offhand, I'd say yes [06:46] cool [06:48] Riddell: does the gettext in Breezy not work in this context? [06:50] the parser seems to have been completely reworked, and is much more sophisticated [06:58] wow, kubuntu-desktop installable :)) [07:02] KaiL: so now hoary -> breezy works now more than less ? [07:02] you can at least install it, but I can't say you, if everything works [07:03] KaiL: that's more than good enough for me ;) [07:06] known problems for now: [07:07] - amarok and/or arsd crash after some time [07:07] - media:/ is quite dead [07:08] ..+ the bugs I haven't seen :) [07:14] uhm, no menu entries for oo2? [07:18] the app itself if quite good KDE lookalike [07:18] mdz: my understanding is that the KDE extensions to gettext mean a standard gettext won't work [07:18] except the menu fonts (to big imho) [07:24] Riddell: the only things changed have to do with parsing C/C++ code [07:25] Riddell: do you know of a test case where standard gettext (modern versions) won't work? === Riddell tries to track one down === froud [~sean@ndn-165-146-74.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === froud [~sean@ndn-165-146-74.telkomadsl.co.za] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === froud [~sean@ndn-165-146-74.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [~jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === KabelKasper [~vloechte@i5387F565.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === froud [~sean@ndn-165-146-74.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:51] Riddell: also, did you receive my bug report about kscreensaver-xsavers? [10:22] mdz: change depends from xscreensaver-nognome to xscreensaver, I can take a look at that tomorrow [10:23] mdz: looks like i18n scripty maintainer is away for the night, I'll ask again for exact details, but I'm sure there's a reason why that version of xgettext is still used [10:23] Riddell: let's find out what the underlying issues are, and we'll decide what to do based on that [10:53] elmo: for systemsettings should it be the source or just the binary that is renamed? [10:58] elmo: and does the binary (rather than just binary package) have to be renamed? === Mez yawns :d [10:59] hey all [11:03] Riddell: binary package definitely has to be; source and binary itself is up to you; personally I'd recommend renaming both, but I'm not going to be ultra-fascist over it [11:04] Riddell: also I'm going to reject gettext-kde for now,just because having it in limbo in NEW makes things painful for me - feel free to reupload when the issues are resolved/decided [11:04] elmo: ok === m-fox [~m-fox@port-212-202-9-80.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === KaiL [KaiL@p548F5A02.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel