| tseng | <trow> Do I want the amd64-generic or amd64-k8 kernel stuff? | 12:08 |
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| tseng | Nafallo: ^ | 12:08 |
| Nafallo | k8 if he runs on k8 :-) | 12:08 |
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| tseng | whats that mean | 12:08 |
| tseng | k8 = opteron? | 12:08 |
| Nafallo | tseng: Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 NorthBridge | 12:08 |
| Nafallo | I could have just said chipsets :-) | 12:09 |
| Nafallo | dunno what differs though. | 12:11 |
| tseng | is that in lspic or something? | 12:11 |
| tseng | pci | 12:11 |
| Nafallo | lspci yes :-) | 12:11 |
| tseng | where was the spec on moving packages to main? | 12:27 |
| Nafallo | http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/Mono ? | 12:29 |
| tseng | no | 12:29 |
| tseng | https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UbuntuMainInclusionRequirements | 12:29 |
| tseng | beagle knows all | 12:29 |
| Mez | yeah dooglus :d that would be cause I fiexed it :d | 01:09 |
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| tseng | zul: kickban for great justice | 02:11 |
| zul | tseng: hehe | 02:11 |
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| crimsun | if anyone needs a key signed, I'll be in Chicago, IL, this Wednesday (6/15) from 4p - 7p and in Rochester, NY, the following day (6/16) | 02:14 |
| tritium | Hey crimsun. You'll only be 2 hours away. | 02:16 |
| crimsun | hey tritium | 02:17 |
| crimsun | yep, it's an amtrak layover | 02:17 |
| tritium | Ah, I see... | 02:17 |
| crimsun | how're things? | 02:18 |
| tritium | Moving along. You? | 02:18 |
| crimsun | same, working 40 straight hours so I can take the rest of the week off | 02:19 |
| tritium | crimsun, drobbins (of gentoo fame) is in #ubuntu chatting. He's taken a position with Microsoft. | 02:19 |
| crimsun | tritium: ah, cool | 02:19 |
| tritium | Wow, that's a marathon | 02:19 |
| tritium | crimsun, is your business unit affected by the recent Apple decision? | 02:21 |
| crimsun | nope | 02:21 |
| tritium | That's good. | 02:22 |
| crimsun | well, I suppose I need to qualify that answer | 02:22 |
| crimsun | I work for STG (systems & technology group), so yeah, this group as a whole was adversely affected, but my particular first-line group is separate from the microprocessor group | 02:23 |
| tritium | Ah, okay. | 02:23 |
| crimsun | to put things in scope: the ppc->intel fallout is much less an issue than either bluegene/l or the video game consoles | 02:24 |
| |QuaD- | anyone feel like packaging: http://browserbookapp.sourceforge.net/deskbar.html | 02:25 |
| tritium | crimsun, ah... | 02:26 |
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| tritium | Good night :) | 02:51 |
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| Nafallo | good night! | 02:55 |
| lamont | brutefir needs gcc-4.0 love | 03:12 |
| lamont | and clanlib needs xorg love | 03:12 |
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| eruin | anyone here know what's up with mplayer? ;) | 03:15 |
| eruin | it smells very uninstallable | 03:15 |
| crimsun | it works fine | 03:18 |
| crimsun | you need to pass an explicit version to aptitude/apt-get | 03:18 |
| crimsun | and you can only use the testing debian-marillat repo if you use hoary | 03:19 |
| crimsun | (or if you love apt-pinning) | 03:19 |
| eruin | bleh. that explains it | 03:20 |
| eruin | I think I'm using unstable | 03:20 |
| eruin | cheers ;) | 03:20 |
| crimsun | you still need to pass the version | 03:20 |
| eruin | which? | 03:20 |
| crimsun | look at the full version string from apt-cache policy mplayer-arch | 03:20 |
| eruin | 1:1.0-pre7-0.0 | 03:21 |
| eruin | that's the candidate | 03:21 |
| crimsun | you don't have multiverse enabled. | 03:21 |
| eruin | it also lists 1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6 | 03:21 |
| eruin | from multiverse | 03:22 |
| crimsun | sudo aptitude install mplayer-586=1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6 | 03:22 |
| eruin | hmm | 03:23 |
| eruin | I must already have some marillat packages pulled in | 03:23 |
| eruin | I need libxvidcore4 which wants a more recent libc6 than I have/can get ;) | 03:24 |
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| crimsun | you're not using testing, remember? | 03:28 |
| crimsun | you have unstable | 03:28 |
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| eruin | I've switched to testing | 03:33 |
| eruin | but I fear the damage is already done | 03:33 |
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| crimsun | eruin: then you need to downgrade/uninstall the packages from debian-marillat's unstable | 04:00 |
| eruin | is there a simple way to do that? | 04:03 |
| crimsun | needs a bit of awk magic and grep | 04:04 |
| eruin | I get sweat heats just by seeing 'awk' | 04:04 |
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| |QuaD- | anyone feel like packaging an app now? | 04:25 |
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| DanielN_PD | morning | 08:12 |
| DanielN_PD | |QuaD- : exacter please :) | 08:12 |
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| DanielN_PD | hi ivoks | 10:37 |
| ivoks | hi all | 10:37 |
| siretart | hi folks! | 10:38 |
| ivoks | hi siretart | 10:38 |
| siretart | huhu ivoks | 10:39 |
| DanielN_PD | erm | 10:39 |
| DanielN_PD | i have a question | 10:39 |
| ivoks | fake MOTU ivoks :) | 10:39 |
| siretart | does anybody know if there is a problem with packages.ubuntu.com? | 10:40 |
| ivoks | so, TB is at 20:00 UTC | 10:40 |
| DanielN_PD | if i had to write a patch to upstream source (talking about transition libs), should i provide the patch _and_ the debdiff to the bugreport? | 10:40 |
| siretart | some packages seem to be out of date there. whats going on there? | 10:40 |
| ivoks | DanielN_PD: debdiff should contain changes | 10:40 |
| ivoks | DanielN_PD: and you should send patch to upstream | 10:41 |
| DanielN_PD | ivoks: yeah, but there isn't included the other patch in debian/patches | 10:41 |
| DanielN_PD | in the debdiff | 10:41 |
| ivoks | ? | 10:41 |
| siretart | DanielN_PD: I think that upstream should be able to extract the relevant changes of your debdiff | 10:41 |
| DanielN_PD | siretart: no, it's impossible to detect in the debdiff, that there's another patch | 10:41 |
| ivoks | ?! | 10:42 |
| siretart | huh? how comes? | 10:42 |
| DanielN_PD | don't know | 10:42 |
| ivoks | then you did something wrong | 10:42 |
| DanielN_PD | mhm | 10:42 |
| ivoks | your debdiff should contain ALL changes beetwen inital source of package, and source of package you created | 10:42 |
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| DanielN_PD | yeah, i debdiffed between the version now in breezy and my patched one | 10:43 |
| ivoks | if you included any patch in debian/patches | 10:43 |
| ivoks | then that patch should be visible in debdiff too | 10:43 |
| DanielN_PD | between the .dsc files | 10:43 |
| ivoks | right | 10:44 |
| ivoks | and it contains everything you added/removed | 10:44 |
| DanielN_PD | no it doesn't :/ | 10:44 |
| ivoks | siretart: if it pulls package list from us.archive, then it is outdated | 10:44 |
| DanielN_PD | and the patch is ok, if i build it, the patch is being added | 10:45 |
| DanielN_PD | applied | 10:45 |
| ivoks | DanielN_PD: then it contains your patch | 10:45 |
| DanielN_PD | hrmpf | 10:45 |
| DanielN_PD | wait, i'll provide the debdiff now | 10:45 |
| ivoks | put that debdiff somewhere | 10:45 |
| siretart | ivoks: hm. that could be an explanation.. | 10:46 |
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| DanielN_ | ree | 10:50 |
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| DanielN_ | ivoks: you're right, it contains the patch | 10:50 |
| DanielN_ | i don't know | 10:50 |
| DanielN_ | what i saw yesterday night, i think it was too late already | 10:50 |
| ivoks | khm... | 10:51 |
| DanielN_ | :) | 10:51 |
| DanielN_ | was my fault | 10:51 |
| ivoks | "Companies like Progeny, Linspire, and Ubuntu..." | 10:51 |
| ivoks | khm... | 10:51 |
| DanielN_ | erm | 10:52 |
| ivoks | that ian... | 10:52 |
| DanielN_ | but who is upstream maintainer?? | 10:52 |
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| siretart | does anybody know what happened to the backports team? I haven't heard anything from them quite a long time | 11:02 |
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| \sh | siretart: me neither | 11:10 |
| siretart | hi \sh | 11:16 |
| siretart | \sh: I wanted to take a look at darcs-buildpackage, unfortunatly it is only available in breezy, so I thought about backporting, which.. ;) | 11:16 |
| \sh | darcs? | 11:16 |
| siretart | I read some article about darcs, and did some rudimentary tests. it is a decentral scm, I think derived from arch in some way | 11:17 |
| \sh | siretart: url? | 11:18 |
| siretart | http://abridgegame.org/darcs/, but I looked at the package already in hoary | 11:19 |
| siretart | and in debian unstable there is also darcs-buildpackage, but this is still on my todo list | 11:19 |
| siretart | hm. tla-load-dirs needs merging.. checking MOM merge for upload | 11:38 |
| siretart | but is looking good | 11:38 |
| siretart | what is your opinion, should the maintainer in the merged changlog from MOM be changed from scott to the reviewer? | 11:39 |
| \sh | i don't know :( | 11:40 |
| siretart | asking in -devel | 11:42 |
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| HostingGeek | are there any lazy MOTU in here besides me? | 11:53 |
| HostingGeek | ok ok I am not a MOTU | 11:54 |
| ivoks | ? | 11:55 |
| \sh | hmmm..daniel.robbins@microsoft.com | 11:57 |
| HostingGeek | lol | 12:07 |
| HostingGeek | \sh: I need IRC nicks | 12:07 |
| HostingGeek | anyway bill.gates@microsoft.com is more lazy | 12:08 |
| HostingGeek | he is to lazy to close down the company | 12:08 |
| \sh | HostingGeek: u don't know daniel robbins | 12:10 |
| \sh | ? | 12:10 |
| HostingGeek | no | 12:10 |
| HostingGeek | you? | 12:10 |
| \sh | yes | 12:10 |
| \sh | founder and chief architect of gentoo linux | 12:10 |
| tseng | thats not the same guy | 12:11 |
| tseng | @ microsoft | 12:11 |
| tseng | he has a blog with his picture on it. | 12:11 |
| \sh | tseng: drobbins is working for ms since the 23rd of may | 12:11 |
| tseng | well then there are 2 drobbins there | 12:11 |
| tseng | or you are misinformed | 12:11 |
| \sh | tseng: and there is a daniel c. robbins @ ms hes 3d graphical expert | 12:11 |
| \sh | tseng: read the gentoo planet :) | 12:11 |
| tseng | yes | 12:11 |
| \sh | tseng: i mean: drobbins | 12:12 |
| tseng | er | 12:12 |
| tseng | no thanks | 12:12 |
| tseng | boring censored drivel | 12:12 |
| \sh | tseng: it's big in the press | 12:12 |
| \sh | tseng: and it's big on all planets, blogs, newsticker, whatever you can read | 12:12 |
| tseng | *YAWN* | 12:12 |
| tseng | congratulations on his new job | 12:13 |
| \sh | tseng: my thoughts :) | 12:13 |
| \sh | now he can drop the gentoo shop, and start contributing some money to the foundation ,-> | 12:13 |
| \sh | anyways...coffee | 12:14 |
| HostingGeek | moo | 12:16 |
| Nafallo | tseng: gooooood morning! :-D | 12:28 |
| Nafallo | hi all! :-) | 12:29 |
| tseng | :) | 12:31 |
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| DanielN_ | ARGH | 01:12 |
| DanielN_ | can't belief that | 01:13 |
| HostingGeek | DanielN_: are youm daniel r really | 01:13 |
| HostingGeek | ? | 01:13 |
| DanielN_ | HostingGeek: erm.. don't understand what you mean | 01:14 |
| HostingGeek | DanielN_: we where talking a lot about him before | 01:15 |
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| Lathiat | HostingGeek: dude | 01:16 |
| Lathiat | HostingGeek: open your eyes | 01:16 |
| Lathiat | 'Daniel_N_' not 'Daniel_R_' | 01:16 |
| HostingGeek | <DanielN_> ARGH | 01:16 |
| DanielN_ | :)) | 01:16 |
| HostingGeek | <DanielN_> can't belief that | 01:16 |
| HostingGeek | lamont: maybe he is anrgy daniel_r_ was taken | 01:16 |
| Lathiat | now plz to -troll yourself | 01:17 |
| Lathiat | alternatively find the closest available cliff and fall off it | 01:17 |
| Nafallo | "fall" ;-) | 01:18 |
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| doko | ajmitch: what's the status of libsigcx ? | 01:35 |
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| Nafallo | \sh: ping | 01:37 |
| Nafallo | \sh: nm | 01:41 |
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| doko | ajmitch: what's the status of cln, ginac, freefem | 02:04 |
| ogra | doko, remind me that i owe you a bottle of single malt for doing my paperwork, next time we meet.... thanks a big lot :) | 02:06 |
| doko | ogra: maybe you should be punished by bringing the bottle from Norway ;) | 02:08 |
| ogra | doko, too late.... i'm already back and have to build a first edubuntu CD during the ext two weeks :) | 02:08 |
| ogra | doko, but i have tzo go to london in the beginning of july, i could grab a nice bottle for you there :) | 02:10 |
| doko | :) | 02:11 |
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| doko | siretart: what's the status of libaqbanking? | 02:20 |
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| DanielN_PD | mhm | 02:46 |
| DanielN_PD | how are you all testing, that packages build on architectures that yourselfe doesn't have | 02:47 |
| DanielN_PD | ? | 02:47 |
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| doko | DanielN_PD: what's the status of aqsis? | 02:57 |
| doko | DanielN_PD: what's the status of gdome2-xslt ? | 02:58 |
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| \sh | Nafallo: pong | 03:01 |
| Nafallo | \sh: nm, but thanks for the wikipage about LocalAptGetRepositories :-) | 03:01 |
| doko | \sh: what's the status of gnuradio? | 03:02 |
| \sh | doko: no status update...the issue is raised at upstream but no change | 03:03 |
| doko | which issue? | 03:03 |
| \sh | doko: there is a compilation bug... | 03:04 |
| \sh | > ../../src/lib/.libs/libgnuradio-core.so: undefined reference to | 03:04 |
| \sh | > `gr_fxpt::TWO_TO_THE_31' | 03:04 |
| \sh | > ../../src/lib/.libs/libgnuradio-core.so: undefined reference to | 03:04 |
| \sh | > `gr_fxpt::PI' | 03:04 |
| \sh | This is our problem... | 03:04 |
| \sh | Eric | 03:04 |
| \sh | http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/discuss-gnuradio/2005-05/msg00176.html | 03:05 |
| doko | with gfortran, or g77-3.4? | 03:05 |
| \sh | g77-3.4 i think | 03:06 |
| \sh | doko: what about ocaml? | 03:07 |
| doko | waiting for daniels ... | 03:08 |
| \sh | at least some showstoppers | 03:08 |
| doko | \sh: what's the status of libpqxx ? | 03:12 |
| \sh | doko: waiting for pitti :) | 03:13 |
| \sh | ahhh. | 03:16 |
| \sh | forget about pitti | 03:17 |
| \sh | working like hell :) | 03:17 |
| \sh | usr/include/postgres/8.0 | 03:17 |
| doko | \sh: what's the status of snacc ? | 03:20 |
| \sh | working on it...fixing stuff | 03:20 |
| \sh | libpqxx uploaded | 03:20 |
| doko | \sh: what's the status of libsndobj2 ? | 03:20 |
| doko | :) | 03:20 |
| \sh | thx rest is easy | 03:20 |
| \sh | libflash i have to upload for Unfrgiven | 03:21 |
| DanielN_PD | doko: both finished | 03:22 |
| DanielN_PD | no wait | 03:22 |
| \sh | argl | 03:24 |
| \sh | libflash-swfplayerc2 | 03:24 |
| \sh | nononono | 03:24 |
| DanielN_PD | doko: these libs aren't any more in my care! i just kept open the bug, and removed my name from the wiki list | 03:25 |
| \sh | grmpf..i will fix libflash now | 03:26 |
| doko | DanielN_PD: what the status "finished" or "I don't care" ? | 03:30 |
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| bddebian | Howdy | 03:30 |
| tritium | Good morning, bddebian | 03:30 |
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| bddebian | Heya tritium | 03:30 |
| \sh | ogra: ping | 03:34 |
| ogra | \sh, pong | 03:35 |
| \sh | ogra: r u driving to the linuxtag? | 03:35 |
| ogra | \sh, nope... no time for that | 03:35 |
| \sh | ogra: well, if i can manage I'm trying to get down there...and try to meet mako or anyone who is there | 03:37 |
| ogra | \sh, great.... go and represent ;) | 03:37 |
| ogra | \sh, you probably should contact mako before he travels | 03:37 |
| \sh | ogra: what should I represent? ubuntu or gentoo e.v. germany ?,-) | 03:37 |
| ogra | \sh, your choice ;) | 03:38 |
| \sh | ogra: first of all i have to check my account...:) | 03:38 |
| \sh | ogra: yesterday I got the letter from the lawyer of my ex :( | 03:38 |
| ogra | awww... | 03:38 |
| \sh | looks like i need a third job as a callboy or something... | 03:39 |
| ogra | heh, go ahead :) | 03:39 |
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| thesaltydog | \sh, if you need any consultancy, in my life I got 2 letters from the lawyers of my 2 ex's.. | 03:41 |
| \sh | thesaltydog: hahaha :) | 03:41 |
| \sh | doko: what r we doing about this apache license vs. gp license issues? | 03:41 |
| doko | DanielN_PD: please stop touching new packages, please fix your existing ones first (maybe ask \sh or ogra for help) | 03:42 |
| doko | \sh: I didn't read that yet. | 03:42 |
| \sh | doko: I raised it on ubuntu-devel ml...but looks like nobody is interessted ;) | 03:43 |
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| \sh | and who put me on ogras bug as CC...doko? | 03:51 |
| DanielN_PD | doko: i don't care about these libs any more | 03:51 |
| DanielN_PD | doko: just for information | 03:51 |
| \sh | DanielN_PD: which libs? | 03:51 |
| DanielN_PD | aqsis, libgdome2-xslt | 03:51 |
| \sh | DanielN_PD: bugzilla entries? | 03:52 |
| DanielN_PD | are still there | 03:52 |
| doko | \sh: I did CC you | 03:52 |
| Nafallo | \sh: if you want, I could put you as CC on all ogra's bugs? :-) | 03:52 |
| doko | DanielN_PD: and what about the other libs? | 03:52 |
| Nafallo | \sh: but it wasn't me ;-) | 03:53 |
| DanielN_PD | doko: as you see, i've done a view of other libs yet.. and there are still such, where's my name in the wiki! and this one i do of course :) | 03:53 |
| ogra | \sh, didnt you do that yourself last week (iirc) ? | 03:53 |
| DanielN_PD | theese | 03:53 |
| \sh | ogra: no | 03:53 |
| DanielN_PD | argh | 03:53 |
| \sh | doko@ubuntu.com changed: | 03:54 |
| ogra | \sh, me neither... but i think i remember that you wanted to take them.... | 03:54 |
| \sh | heute 15:43 | 03:54 |
| \sh | ;) | 03:54 |
| \sh | i upload most of the stuff of Unfrgiven now i'm taking DanielN_PDs stuff and took some of ajmitch | 03:54 |
| \sh | doko: yeah i saw it..:) | 03:56 |
| \sh | DanielN_PD: i took your bugs over...i will upload them later (when your debdiffs are ok, with your address) | 03:56 |
| DanielN_PD | \sh: huh? correct with adress? | 03:59 |
| DanielN_PD | and which bugs do you mean? gdome adn aqsis or the others? | 03:59 |
| \sh | DanielN_PD: aqsis and gdome | 04:00 |
| \sh | DanielN_PD: with your email address :) so the upload is recognized on your account :) | 04:00 |
| \sh | https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MaintainerCandidates | 04:01 |
| \sh | so many "want to be" maintainers have to show up again | 04:01 |
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| zul | \sh: dont you mean posers :) | 04:15 |
| DanielN_PD | \sh: well, if this is ok, it's no problem for me! | 04:19 |
| DanielN_PD | \sh: but that means, that if something is wrong, the mails are sent to me, right? | 04:20 |
| Nafallo | zul: !status on rt2500? :) | 04:21 |
| zul | Nafallo: waiting for 2.6.12 to be released | 04:21 |
| Nafallo | zul: but it has the latest bugfix I told you? :-) | 04:22 |
| zul | Nafallo: its on the todo list we are trying to work on something that deals with rt2500 | 04:22 |
| zul | please be patient | 04:22 |
| Nafallo | zul: hehe, I'll try :-) | 04:23 |
| Nafallo | zul: the <something> is that module-watch-thing I guess? :-) | 04:23 |
| zul | nope | 04:23 |
| DanielN_PD | going home | 04:24 |
| DanielN_PD | see ya later | 04:24 |
| Nafallo | k | 04:24 |
| \sh | DanielN_PD: u r on the bug at all...so u get all the mails... | 04:29 |
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| \sh | zul: no...i mean "want to be" maintainers :) | 04:33 |
| zul | heh | 04:33 |
| \sh | ok...time to go home... | 04:35 |
| \sh | laters dude... | 04:35 |
| \sh | TB meeting at 20:00 UTC :) | 04:35 |
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| ofr | hi | 04:37 |
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| ivoks | hi | 04:38 |
| ivoks | doko: ping | 04:39 |
| ivoks | or anyone else :) | 04:39 |
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| DanielN | ree | 05:18 |
| DanielN | ARGH | 05:37 |
| DanielN | ogra, sorry i changed something on a bug of you. took the wrong one, sry! | 05:37 |
| ogra | np | 05:37 |
| DanielN | doko: damn, you're right my debdiff is wrong ;) | 05:40 |
| DanielN | doko: sigcperl patch is fixed | 06:04 |
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| lamont__ | pymol needs some python2.3->2.4 love | 06:56 |
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| rtcm | any motu around to review a (trivial) modification to a debian package? | 07:25 |
| ivoks | eh :) | 07:26 |
| ivoks | sec.. | 07:26 |
| ivoks | are there any plans to port OpenSolaris's SMF? | 07:27 |
| ivoks | rtcm: where is your debdiff? | 07:27 |
| rtcm | didn't do one, will do and post a link | 07:27 |
| zul | ivoks: evil | 07:27 |
| ivoks | zul: why evil? :) | 07:28 |
| ivoks | licencse? | 07:28 |
| zul | ivoks: its not under gpl and its solaris | 07:28 |
| ivoks | zul: it's OSI certified | 07:28 |
| ivoks | well, i didn't check license... | 07:29 |
| ivoks | zul: ok, is there any other similar project? | 07:29 |
| ivoks | lol | 07:30 |
| ivoks | You may not remove or alter any copyright, patent or trademark notices contained within the Covered Software | 07:31 |
| ivoks | that sucks | 07:31 |
| ivoks | :) | 07:31 |
| rtcm | ivoks: there you go: http://artemis.av.it.pt/~rmatos/ubuntu/ion3_20050607-2ubuntu1.debdiff | 07:32 |
| elmo | ivoks: OSI certified generally means nothing | 07:33 |
| ivoks | elmo: i know | 07:33 |
| ivoks | elmo: i'm reading license | 07:33 |
| rtcm | ivoks: this package isn't being automatically imported from debian when it should given that the diff is a oneliner | 07:33 |
| ivoks | elmo: btw... is there something wrong with my PGP? | 07:33 |
| ivoks | rtcm: i don't think this will get into breezy | 07:34 |
| ivoks | rtcm: contact Per Olofsson <pelle@dsv.su.se> There must be a reson why he left xinerama out | 07:35 |
| elmo | ivoks: I don't know, last I heard, mako was going to talk to you about it - has he? | 07:35 |
| ivoks | elmo: no | 07:35 |
| ivoks | elmo: he just asked for my PGP ID | 07:35 |
| elmo | ivoks: ok, I'll have a look at my mail in a bit, and check with mako | 07:36 |
| ivoks | elmo: i didn't heard from since then (week or two ago) | 07:36 |
| ivoks | elmo: ok, thank you | 07:36 |
| rtcm | ivoks: libxinerama doesn't exist in debian yet... | 07:36 |
| ivoks | elmo: if you have any questions, please, contact me | 07:36 |
| ivoks | rtcm: great! contact Per and suggest him this change | 07:37 |
| ivoks | rtcm: or even better, send him this debdiff | 07:37 |
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| ivoks | rtcm: sorry | 07:39 |
| ivoks | rtcm: tell that to ogra :) | 07:39 |
| rtcm | ivoks: but while debian doesn't upgrade to xorg that package will be unbuildable there... | 07:39 |
| ivoks | rtcm: yeah, i made a mistake | 07:39 |
| ivoks | rtcm: ogra is "maintainer" in ubuntu | 07:40 |
| rtcm | I will mail ogra then | 07:40 |
| ogra | ?? | 07:40 |
| ogra | ivoks, ? | 07:40 |
| ivoks | here he is :) | 07:40 |
| ivoks | ogra: you synced ion3 from debian | 07:40 |
| ogra | ivoks, its maintained by MOTU..... | 07:40 |
| ivoks | ogra: ah, i see... | 07:40 |
| ogra | ivoks, feel free to change it :) | 07:40 |
| ivoks | ogra: will do, as soon as I get upload rights :) | 07:41 |
| ivoks | or if i get upload rights :) | 07:41 |
| ogra | ivoks, but tell it the debian maintainer if you did, he wants to know about it | 07:41 |
| ivoks | ogra: i allways do that | 07:41 |
| rtcm | great... this is really a trivial thing | 07:41 |
| ivoks | they never respond :( | 07:41 |
| ogra | ivoks, great :) | 07:41 |
| ivoks | rtcm: great, i'll download sid's source and patch with your debdiff | 07:42 |
| ivoks | yes, yes, i know for uupdate :) | 07:42 |
| ivoks | rtcm: your name is? | 07:43 |
| rtcm | the one in the changelog :) | 07:43 |
| ivoks | ah, Matos | 07:43 |
| ivoks | ogra: i can leave his name/mail in changelog, right? | 07:44 |
| ivoks | can't | 07:44 |
| ivoks | or? | 07:44 |
| ogra | nope, not in changelog | 07:44 |
| rtcm | ivoks: feel free to change it | 07:44 |
| ivoks | ok | 07:44 |
| ogra | but in the maintainer field | 07:44 |
| ivoks | maintainer field?! | 07:45 |
| ivoks | doesn't that one allways stays from debian? | 07:45 |
| ogra | yes, please let elmo sync the recent version from debian before you apply the patch | 07:45 |
| rtcm | btw, aren't this king of chages in the build-deps automatically handled by the importer scripts? | 07:47 |
| rtcm | *kind | 07:47 |
| ivoks | importer scripts? | 07:47 |
| ivoks | i'm not aware of any scripts | 07:47 |
| ivoks | only people :) | 07:47 |
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| ivoks | but i could be wrong | 07:47 |
| rtcm | I thought the syncs to debian were automated | 07:48 |
| ivoks | rtcm: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MOTUToReview | 07:49 |
| ogra | rtcm, they are... | 07:49 |
| ivoks | rtcm: put link to your debdiff there | 07:49 |
| ivoks | rtcm: so when ion3 gets synced, I will patch it | 07:50 |
| rtcm | ivoks: in which section? i see three sections there | 07:51 |
| ivoks | rtcm: first | 07:51 |
| rtcm | ivoks: done, thanks | 07:54 |
| ivoks | thank you | 07:55 |
| Burgundavia | tseng, http://www.public.asu.edu/~bnickel/MuineTagger/ <-- thoughts? | 08:18 |
| tseng | i havent tried it | 08:19 |
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| tseng | i dont see the point | 08:19 |
| tseng | i use easytag | 08:19 |
| tseng | its a thousand times more powerful | 08:19 |
| tseng | and it doesnt clutter the freaking ui | 08:19 |
| tseng | there is no reason for them to have put that crap in the main window | 08:20 |
| tseng | Burgundavia: did you want me to tell you what i really thought? | 08:20 |
| Burgundavia | I find easytag a piece of crap | 08:21 |
| Burgundavia | and useing itunes, I realise that editing IS part of music libraries | 08:21 |
| ivoks | :) | 08:21 |
| ivoks | flamewar :) | 08:21 |
| tseng | i find this plugin a piece of crap | 08:21 |
| tseng | get out of my muine window | 08:21 |
| tseng | go in the File menu like everyone else | 08:21 |
| ivoks | :) | 08:25 |
| ivoks | coc guys :) | 08:25 |
| ivoks | coc | 08:25 |
| tseng | dude | 08:25 |
| tseng | its nothing personal | 08:25 |
| bddebian | coc? | 08:25 |
| ivoks | bddebian: yes, CoC | 08:25 |
| Mez | ivoks likes coc | 08:26 |
| Mez | :P | 08:26 |
| tseng | oh man | 08:26 |
| bddebian | What about my coc? | 08:26 |
| tseng | knock it off. | 08:26 |
| ivoks | http://www.grawert.net/CoC.txt | 08:26 |
| Mez | :D | 08:26 |
| bddebian | Heh | 08:26 |
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| bddebian | aww, thx | 08:27 |
| ivoks | :D | 08:27 |
| ivoks | easytag is nice | 08:28 |
| ivoks | and this muine tagger is nice | 08:28 |
| ivoks | i'm sure both will have audience | 08:28 |
| tseng | ivoks: of course | 08:29 |
| ivoks | tseng: why are they some red and some black listed files? | 08:32 |
| tseng | red means it fixed something | 08:32 |
| ivoks | :> | 08:32 |
| tseng | and you didnt save the changes yet | 08:32 |
| ivoks | hm... lots of fixing | 08:32 |
| tseng | you probably stole lots of music then :P | 08:33 |
| ivoks | :) | 08:33 |
| ivoks | i found CDs on the road :) | 08:33 |
| tseng | ah | 08:33 |
| tseng | and cddb totally farked your tags | 08:33 |
| tseng | since the cd was scratched.. | 08:33 |
| ivoks | yeah | 08:33 |
| ivoks | mess, dude, mess :) | 08:33 |
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| ivoks | lol | 08:34 |
| ivoks | do you want to rename project_topaz to do_it_with_madonna | 08:35 |
| ivoks | :)) | 08:35 |
| ivoks | this is great app | 08:37 |
| ivoks | muine tagger sucks :) | 08:37 |
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| herve | hello | 08:41 |
| ivoks | herve: hi | 08:41 |
| Riddell | anyone available to review a package? | 08:43 |
| Riddell | http://dev.kubuntu.org.uk/~jr/kubuntu/ivman | 08:43 |
| herve | this makes me think... | 08:43 |
| herve | DanielN, ping | 08:43 |
| ivoks | rain... :( | 08:44 |
| ivoks | bye all | 08:57 |
| ivoks | see you at 20:00 UTC | 08:57 |
| DanielN | herve: pong | 09:26 |
| herve | DanielN, still need reviewing "when"? | 09:27 |
| \sh | re | 09:27 |
| DanielN | herve: you have to change your comment (md5mismatch is fixed) | 09:28 |
| DanielN | and then it's ready i think | 09:28 |
| herve | I remember I had other comments ;-) | 09:29 |
| DanielN | herve: some dh_* which are not used :) | 09:30 |
| \sh | Unfrgiven: ping | 09:42 |
| \sh | hope he is here tonite | 09:43 |
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| \sh | DanielN: now i will take a look on your packages | 09:45 |
| \sh | your cxx packages :) | 09:45 |
| DanielN | \sh: again? :) | 09:46 |
| DanielN | \sh: ahh | 09:46 |
| DanielN | :> | 09:46 |
| \sh | hehe...well i have a life as I realized lately ;) | 09:46 |
| DanielN | ??? | 09:47 |
| DanielN | can't follow.. | 09:47 |
| \sh | DanielN: I wish i could work all day on this linux stuff and on my dtv main work :) | 09:47 |
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| DanielN | \sh: same here :) | 09:48 |
| DanielN | well, not DTV but you now what i mean ;) | 09:48 |
| \sh | u don't want to smoke dtv ? ,) | 09:49 |
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| \sh | DanielN: tell me, why do u change the name in debian/control but not the corresponding files for the installation? | 09:51 |
| ivoks | hi | 09:51 |
| \sh | aqsis-libs.dirs should be aqsis-libsc2.dirs | 09:51 |
| \sh | changed also debian/rules | 09:53 |
| \sh | ok... | 09:55 |
| \sh | and where is debian/patches/aqsislibs_c2_patch.diff | 09:55 |
| Burgundavia | tseng, is it worth reporting beagle bugs? | 09:56 |
| tseng | Burgundavia: depends on the bug | 09:56 |
| tseng | ill be glad to direct you | 09:56 |
| Burgundavia | Unhandled Exception: System.TypeInitializationException: An exception was thrown by the type initializer for Beagle.Util.Inotify ---> System.DllNotFoundException: libMonoPosixHelper.so | 09:56 |
| tseng | you need libmono-dev | 09:56 |
| Burgundavia | ah | 09:57 |
| tseng | we fixed this upstream | 09:57 |
| tseng | will hit soon | 09:57 |
| Burgundavia | ok | 09:57 |
| Burgundavia | cheers | 09:58 |
| tseng | working? | 09:58 |
| herve | DanielN, begin reviewing, I hope your router is ok :-) | 10:00 |
| \sh | don't we have meeting now? | 10:02 |
| ivoks | yeah | 10:02 |
| ivoks | herve: ? | 10:08 |
| herve | hmmm... | 10:08 |
| herve | how maintainers differ from motu? | 10:08 |
| DanielN | herve, it should be ok | 10:08 |
| DanielN | or then i'm a bad sysadmin ;) | 10:08 |
| herve | DanielN, waiting server response... | 10:09 |
| DanielN | lol sorry | 10:09 |
| DanielN | then it's you, i tested it from several locations now | 10:09 |
| DanielN | and it simply works | 10:09 |
| DanielN | http://marissa.ath.cx/daniel/archive/breezy | 10:09 |
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| herve | I could list the directory | 10:12 |
| herve | but no wget... | 10:12 |
| bddebian | Did wget ever get fixed in Debian and upstream? | 10:12 |
| herve | no s | 10:12 |
| ivoks | meeting time :) | 10:13 |
| ivoks | herve: what have you been drinking? :) | 10:13 |
| herve | what have I *not* been drinking? ;-) | 10:14 |
| ivoks | hehehe | 10:14 |
| \sh | DanielN: do u need upload space for your packages? | 10:15 |
| herve | no, he needs a good router ;-) | 10:15 |
| DanielN | herve: youre the one who sucks | 10:15 |
| DanielN | :) | 10:15 |
| herve | no, wget is | 10:15 |
| DanielN | my router is ok :> | 10:15 |
| ivoks | hm... | 10:16 |
| ivoks | i need help a bit | 10:16 |
| herve | just ctrl+c and run again, now it's ok | 10:16 |
| ivoks | i renamed limeshio0 to libmeshio0c2 | 10:16 |
| ivoks | i need to change shlibs file | 10:16 |
| DanielN | herve: so you got it now? | 10:17 |
| ivoks | it containts: libmeshio 0.2.0 meshio (>> 0.2.0-0), meshio (<< 0.2.0-99 | 10:17 |
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| herve | DanielN, yes | 10:17 |
| ivoks | i'm not sure what changes should i do | 10:17 |
| DanielN | great | 10:17 |
| herve | \sh, so maintainership is for main or I get it wrong? | 10:17 |
| herve | DanielN, either you or I are doomed | 10:19 |
| herve | md5sum mismatch | 10:19 |
| herve | I'll use another tool | 10:19 |
| DanielN | err | 10:20 |
| DanielN | wait, it could be | 10:20 |
| \sh | herve: no | 10:22 |
| DanielN | herve: it isn't | 10:22 |
| \sh | herve: maintainership is for upload in common | 10:22 |
| \sh | herve: the differences are only upload for main or universe..so first universe and then some time after universe main | 10:22 |
| herve | so both main uploader and motus apply... | 10:22 |
| herve | ok, now I need to remember it :-) | 10:23 |
| \sh | herve: yes | 10:23 |
| Riddell | \sh: would you be able to look at my ivman package? | 10:24 |
| DanielN | herve: still md5mismatch? it works for me | 10:25 |
| DanielN | with apt-get source | 10:25 |
| \sh | Riddell: i'm taking now all the kde packages | 10:25 |
| herve | DanielN, I'm doing three thing at the same time :-) | 10:25 |
| herve | and I already get difficulty to concentrate on a single one | 10:26 |
| DanielN | ;> | 10:26 |
| herve | I'll tell you when I'm over | 10:26 |
| Riddell | \sh: http://dev.kubuntu.org.uk/~jr/kubuntu/ivman | 10:26 |
| \sh | Riddell: what's the purpose of ivman? ,-) | 10:28 |
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| \sh | ah...now i get it | 10:28 |
| \sh | argl | 10:28 |
| siretart | hi folks | 10:28 |
| ivoks | alternative to g-v-m | 10:28 |
| siretart | Mithrandir: in which channel is the nx meeting? | 10:29 |
| \sh | Riddell: debian/copyright...only the first part..and then a pointer to /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL-2 | 10:29 |
| Riddell | \sh: it's not GPL | 10:29 |
| ivoks | lol | 10:29 |
| \sh | or qpl | 10:29 |
| Riddell | no QPL in /usr/share/common-licenses/ | 10:29 |
| \sh | hmmm..we should update this | 10:29 |
| herve | ivoks, really? someone was looking for a kde equivalent to gvm today :-) | 10:29 |
| Riddell | herve: where abouts? | 10:29 |
| ivoks | herve: ivman is no-gui | 10:30 |
| ivoks | herve: it lacks some g-v-m fetures, but is good project | 10:30 |
| Riddell | ivoks: which features? | 10:30 |
| herve | I mean, adding an icon on the desktop and open a konqueror window on the media | 10:30 |
| Riddell | herve: icon on desktop is already added | 10:30 |
| \sh | Riddell: if you put it on MOTUNewPackages i would like to sign it ;) | 10:30 |
| ivoks | Riddell: asking for password on mounting crypted usb stick | 10:30 |
| herve | Riddell, in kubuntu hoary? | 10:31 |
| Riddell | ivoks: hmm | 10:31 |
| Riddell | ivoks: any docs on making a crypted usb stick? | 10:31 |
| Riddell | herve: yes | 10:31 |
| ivoks | Riddell: yes :) | 10:31 |
| herve | DanielN, ok, I think we made a confusion | 10:35 |
| herve | I mean, the orig.tar.gz is not the same as the upstream tarball | 10:35 |
| ivoks | Riddell: http://www.flyn.org/easycrypto/easycrypto.html | 10:36 |
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| DanielN | herve: that is correct! ivoks said i should do it like that .. making changes and then pack the orig.tar.gz manually | 10:37 |
| DanielN | err | 10:37 |
| ivoks | ?! | 10:37 |
| herve | ?? | 10:37 |
| DanielN | i mean the upstream tarball | 10:37 |
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| herve | you should rename the upstream tarball to when_1.0.23.orig.tar.gz and work from here | 10:38 |
| herve | you're not supposed to package upstream releases yourself | 10:38 |
| herve | remember to be as less intrusive as possible | 10:38 |
| DanielN | yep | 10:39 |
| Riddell | \sh: wiki doesn't want to work for me | 10:39 |
| DanielN | but herve: if i want to change something in the upstream.. i must provide it as a patch ?? | 10:40 |
| herve | DanielN, replace your orig with the upstream one renamed | 10:40 |
| herve | regenerate a source package | 10:40 |
| herve | and I approve it | 10:40 |
| \sh | uh for me neither | 10:40 |
| herve | DanielN, yes you do, and report it to upstream for inclusion in the next revision | 10:41 |
| DanielN | argh i'm disappointet | 10:41 |
| \sh | DanielN: why? | 10:42 |
| DanielN | just rename the upstream tar to orig tar and rebuild? | 10:42 |
| ivoks | herve: is this about when? | 10:42 |
| DanielN | yeah | 10:42 |
| ivoks | upstream tarball, when extracted, doesn't produce when directory | 10:43 |
| ivoks | that's the problem | 10:43 |
| ivoks | it creats some other directory | 10:43 |
| ivoks | like release/ or something like that | 10:43 |
| DanielN | when_dist | 10:43 |
| ivoks | when_dist | 10:43 |
| ivoks | this is wrong, and should be changed, imho | 10:44 |
| herve | why? | 10:44 |
| ivoks | that's why you get md5 mismatch | 10:44 |
| ivoks | cause source should be in packagename-version | 10:44 |
| herve | he gets md5 mismatch because he made a tarball on his own | 10:44 |
| herve | ivoks, tell that to upstream | 10:44 |
| ivoks | herve: on his own? | 10:45 |
| DanielN | herve: i haven't an md5 mismatch | 10:45 |
| herve | of his own? | 10:45 |
| ivoks | i told him to rename that when_dist to when-version | 10:45 |
| \sh | now its working again | 10:45 |
| ivoks | and to gzip it and tar it | 10:45 |
| ivoks | but when he runs dpkg-buildpackage | 10:45 |
| ivoks | script creates .orig.tar.gz | 10:46 |
| herve | ivoks, I understand your point of view, but you told it to the wrong person :-) | 10:46 |
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| herve | ivoks, no, the scripts compare the orig archive with the current state | 10:46 |
| herve | but certainly won't touch the orig | 10:46 |
| herve | any difference goes in the diff.gz | 10:46 |
| ivoks | herve: there wasn't .oirg.tar.gz :) | 10:46 |
| herve | unless it's a native package of course | 10:46 |
| herve | ivoks, that's what I told him to do | 10:47 |
| ivoks | unless he did something wrong :) | 10:47 |
| herve | rename the filename of the upstream tarball | 10:47 |
| herve | how do you get a orig otherwise? | 10:47 |
| ivoks | hm | 10:47 |
| ivoks | wifi-radar_1.9.4-0ubuntu2.tar.gz | 10:48 |
| ivoks | for example | 10:48 |
| herve | DanielN, you're going well? | 10:48 |
| DanielN | ? | 10:48 |
| ivoks | and i didn't have any archive in that dir | 10:48 |
| ivoks | dpkg-buildpackage created it | 10:48 |
| ivoks | hm.. | 10:49 |
| herve | ivoks, hmmm... I may have missed it | 10:49 |
| herve | I'll check later | 10:49 |
| ivoks | but, you are right | 10:49 |
| ivoks | this isn't .orig.tar.gz | 10:49 |
| ivoks | my mistake :) | 10:49 |
| herve | DanielN, you know what to do? | 10:49 |
| DanielN | telling upstream maintainer? | 10:50 |
| ivoks | this archive contains whole source, with debian/ | 10:50 |
| DanielN | ah | 10:50 |
| herve | DanielN, also :-) | 10:50 |
| DanielN | and it shouldn't, because that must be created with the .diff.gz, right? | 10:50 |
| DanielN | debian/ i mean | 10:50 |
| ivoks | DanielN: get archive and rename it to when-version.orig.tar.gz | 10:50 |
| ivoks | DanielN: right | 10:50 |
| herve | when_version.orig.tar.gz :-) | 10:51 |
| ivoks | hm | 10:51 |
| ivoks | http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ch-first.en.html#s-dh_make | 10:51 |
| siretart | the "_" is important. it bit me several times in the past ;) | 10:51 |
| ivoks | Package name and version are separated by the "_" . | 10:52 |
| DanielN | ok, and then debuild :) | 10:52 |
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| ivoks | ah, wait!!! | 10:52 |
| ivoks | stop!!!! | 10:52 |
| ivoks | you should do dh_make | 10:52 |
| DanielN | cool down :) | 10:52 |
| ivoks | that will create .orig.tar.gz | 10:52 |
| DanielN | with the unchanged upstream | 10:52 |
| herve | hmm wait... | 10:52 |
| DanielN | ? | 10:52 |
| ivoks | DanielN: http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ch-first.en.html#s-dh_make | 10:53 |
| herve | really strange | 10:53 |
| ivoks | i told you to do dh_make, remember? | 10:53 |
| herve | ivoks, don't make him mess his package :-) | 10:54 |
| ivoks | herve: it's better to learn it right, mess is irelevant :) | 10:54 |
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| ivoks | it isn't big package, therefor can't be too messy | 10:55 |
| herve | but regenerating a whole source package... | 10:55 |
| ivoks | herve: nah... he can erase debian/* | 10:55 |
| herve | I thought that was easy | 10:55 |
| ivoks | and copy his own stuff | 10:55 |
| herve | but debuild keeps using when-1.0.23 directory | 10:55 |
| ivoks | ah, i'm to tierd :) | 10:56 |
| herve | don't tell me | 10:57 |
| DanielN | me too guys | 10:57 |
| DanielN | we should discuss about that at a funnier time :) | 10:58 |
| herve | agree | 10:58 |
| herve | I must admit I even forgot how one gets a orig.tar.gz :-) | 10:58 |
| DanielN | it's not debuild | 10:59 |
| DanielN | ;> | 10:59 |
| bddebian | herve: By hand.. :-) | 10:59 |
| herve | yeah, the most reliable ;-) | 11:00 |
| bddebian | Just don't leave "shit" files in there like I always do.. :-) | 11:00 |
| ivoks | herve: dh_make :) | 11:00 |
| herve | ivoks, we are supposed to know how to handle packages by hand | 11:01 |
| herve | aren't we, ogra? ;-) | 11:01 |
| ogra | ? | 11:01 |
| ogra | ah, yes :-D | 11:02 |
| ogra | herve, rather how to build packages with debhelper | 11:02 |
| ivoks | :) | 11:02 |
| ogra | i think by hand is to much ;) | 11:03 |
| herve | ogra, we wonder what makes a orig.tar.gz | 11:03 |
| ogra | tar ? | 11:03 |
| bddebian | hehe | 11:03 |
| ogra | if i make a new package, i use just tar... the dh_make | 11:03 |
| \sh | hey ogra | 11:03 |
| ivoks | no, it's gzip :) | 11:03 |
| ogra | then even | 11:03 |
| ogra | tar xzvf | 11:03 |
| ogra | err | 11:04 |
| herve | ogra, how to fix the orig.tar.gz | 11:04 |
| ogra | tar czvf | 11:04 |
| bddebian | tar -xzf | 11:04 |
| bddebian | fix | 11:04 |
| herve | I thought moving the upstream tarball to that name | 11:04 |
| bddebian | tar czf | 11:04 |
| herve | and debuild -S was enough | 11:04 |
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| herve | but dpkg-bp keeps using when-1.0.23 as a name | 11:04 |
| herve | well, no | 11:04 |
| herve | why do I worry? | 11:05 |
| ivoks | :) | 11:05 |
| herve | if debian wants when-1.0.23 in the diff.gz | 11:05 |
| herve | but keeps when_dist in the orig | 11:05 |
| herve | I'm perfectly ok with that | 11:05 |
| ivoks | is breezy first distro that will be build with g++4/gcc4? | 11:05 |
| herve | no, fedora core shipped with that | 11:06 |
| herve | core 4 | 11:06 |
| ivoks | ah, ok | 11:06 |
| ivoks | not shipped with gcc4 | 11:06 |
| ivoks | but build with it | 11:06 |
| herve | built with too | 11:06 |
| ivoks | then they have all the patches, don't they? | 11:07 |
| herve | they provide a consistant set of packages and toolchain ;-) | 11:07 |
| herve | many for sure | 11:07 |
| herve | hmm... I'm wondering if you were there when we talked about it | 11:07 |
| ivoks | where? | 11:08 |
| ivoks | i'm new in ubuntu | 11:08 |
| herve | in this very channel | 11:08 |
| herve | but you came after the transition began, no? | 11:08 |
| ivoks | i've been here only one month | 11:08 |
| ivoks | and allready a MOTU :) | 11:08 |
| ivoks | without upload rights :) | 11:09 |
| ivoks | fake MOTU :) | 11:09 |
| \sh | argl | 11:09 |
| \sh | 3 packages, 3x patching time | 11:09 |
| Riddell | where can I find a list of Sections for packages? | 11:09 |
| ivoks | ah, bed... | 11:09 |
| ivoks | bye all | 11:09 |
| herve | bye | 11:10 |
| DanielN | but fc4 is silly.. they provide a stable release with a rc kernel | 11:10 |
| \sh | riddell: in /usr/share/lintian/checks/fields.desc? | 11:10 |
| \sh | DanielN: rc means for redhat nothing...they have cox, alan cox. | 11:10 |
| herve | Ridell, debian policy or http://packages.debian.org/unstable/ | 11:10 |
| herve | DanielN, and OOo 2.0 by default | 11:10 |
| DanielN | ;> | 11:11 |
| Riddell | \sh: any idea which Section to put ivman in? | 11:11 |
| DanielN | \sh: wohoooo.. he's the man :X | 11:11 |
| herve | Riddell, I think of kde because this is quite specific, no? | 11:12 |
| herve | DanielN, I'll sign tomorrow now | 11:12 |
| herve | the wiki is dead anyway | 11:12 |
| herve | night all | 11:12 |
| Riddell | herve: no, the idea of it is that it's not specific | 11:12 |
| Riddell | and no program that uses glib can really be called KDE | 11:13 |
| \sh | well..difficult decision | 11:13 |
| \sh | utils? | 11:14 |
| \sh | i would say utils | 11:15 |
| Riddell | utils it is then | 11:15 |
| \sh | or otherosfs? ,-) | 11:15 |
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| \sh | ok...time to go to bed | 11:20 |
| \sh | have a hard day tomorrow...cu uys | 11:20 |
| \sh | +g | 11:20 |
| siretart | \sh: gn8 | 11:21 |
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