[12:08] Do I want the amd64-generic or amd64-k8 kernel stuff? [12:08] Nafallo: ^ [12:08] k8 if he runs on k8 :-) === chlunde [chlunde@ritchie.ping.uio.no] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [12:08] whats that mean [12:08] k8 = opteron? [12:08] tseng: Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 NorthBridge [12:09] I could have just said chipsets :-) [12:11] dunno what differs though. [12:11] is that in lspic or something? [12:11] pci [12:11] lspci yes :-) [12:27] where was the spec on moving packages to main? [12:29] http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/Mono ? [12:29] no [12:29] https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UbuntuMainInclusionRequirements [12:29] beagle knows all [01:09] yeah dooglus :d that would be cause I fiexed it :d === tritium [~tritium@12-208-96-155.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === \S2 [~s2@host164-108.pool8254.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === IorGie [~bert@asgard.adsl.utwente.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Majlo [~mario@213.215.74.3] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:11] zul: kickban for great justice [02:11] tseng: hehe === blablablabla [~maniac@p54A3E854.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:14] if anyone needs a key signed, I'll be in Chicago, IL, this Wednesday (6/15) from 4p - 7p and in Rochester, NY, the following day (6/16) [02:16] Hey crimsun. You'll only be 2 hours away. [02:17] hey tritium [02:17] yep, it's an amtrak layover [02:17] Ah, I see... [02:18] how're things? [02:18] Moving along. You? [02:19] same, working 40 straight hours so I can take the rest of the week off [02:19] crimsun, drobbins (of gentoo fame) is in #ubuntu chatting. He's taken a position with Microsoft. [02:19] tritium: ah, cool [02:19] Wow, that's a marathon [02:21] crimsun, is your business unit affected by the recent Apple decision? [02:21] nope [02:22] That's good. [02:22] well, I suppose I need to qualify that answer [02:23] I work for STG (systems & technology group), so yeah, this group as a whole was adversely affected, but my particular first-line group is separate from the microprocessor group [02:23] Ah, okay. [02:24] to put things in scope: the ppc->intel fallout is much less an issue than either bluegene/l or the video game consoles [02:25] <|QuaD-> anyone feel like packaging: http://browserbookapp.sourceforge.net/deskbar.html [02:26] crimsun, ah... === IorGie [~bert@asgard.adsl.utwente.nl] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Ik] === blahrus [uswvp@12-223-50-121.client.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:51] Good night :) === tritium [~tritium@12-208-96-155.client.insightBB.com] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [02:55] good night! [03:12] brutefir needs gcc-4.0 love [03:12] and clanlib needs xorg love === eruin [~eruin@213-145-179-140.dd.nextgentel.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:15] anyone here know what's up with mplayer? ;) [03:15] it smells very uninstallable [03:18] it works fine [03:18] you need to pass an explicit version to aptitude/apt-get [03:19] and you can only use the testing debian-marillat repo if you use hoary [03:19] (or if you love apt-pinning) [03:20] bleh. that explains it [03:20] I think I'm using unstable [03:20] cheers ;) [03:20] you still need to pass the version [03:20] which? [03:20] look at the full version string from apt-cache policy mplayer-arch [03:21] 1:1.0-pre7-0.0 [03:21] that's the candidate [03:21] you don't have multiverse enabled. [03:21] it also lists 1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6 [03:22] from multiverse [03:22] sudo aptitude install mplayer-586=1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6 [03:23] hmm [03:23] I must already have some marillat packages pulled in [03:24] I need libxvidcore4 which wants a more recent libc6 than I have/can get ;) === janm [~jm__@202.172.110.187] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:28] you're not using testing, remember? [03:28] you have unstable === StoneTable [~stone@c-67-184-135-68.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:33] I've switched to testing [03:33] but I fear the damage is already done === StoneTable [~stone@c-67-184-135-68.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === stone__ [~stone@c-67-184-135-68.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:00] eruin: then you need to downgrade/uninstall the packages from debian-marillat's unstable [04:03] is there a simple way to do that? 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[10:38] hi siretart [10:39] huhu ivoks [10:39] erm [10:39] i have a question [10:39] fake MOTU ivoks :) [10:40] does anybody know if there is a problem with packages.ubuntu.com? [10:40] so, TB is at 20:00 UTC [10:40] if i had to write a patch to upstream source (talking about transition libs), should i provide the patch _and_ the debdiff to the bugreport? [10:40] some packages seem to be out of date there. whats going on there? [10:40] DanielN_PD: debdiff should contain changes [10:41] DanielN_PD: and you should send patch to upstream [10:41] ivoks: yeah, but there isn't included the other patch in debian/patches [10:41] in the debdiff [10:41] ? [10:41] DanielN_PD: I think that upstream should be able to extract the relevant changes of your debdiff [10:41] siretart: no, it's impossible to detect in the debdiff, that there's another patch [10:42] ?! [10:42] huh? how comes? [10:42] don't know [10:42] then you did something wrong [10:42] mhm [10:42] your debdiff should contain ALL changes beetwen inital source of package, and source of package you created === hsprang [~henning@c174081.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:43] yeah, i debdiffed between the version now in breezy and my patched one [10:43] if you included any patch in debian/patches [10:43] then that patch should be visible in debdiff too [10:43] between the .dsc files [10:44] right [10:44] and it contains everything you added/removed [10:44] no it doesn't :/ [10:44] siretart: if it pulls package list from us.archive, then it is outdated [10:45] and the patch is ok, if i build it, the patch is being added [10:45] applied [10:45] DanielN_PD: then it contains your patch [10:45] hrmpf [10:45] wait, i'll provide the debdiff now [10:45] put that debdiff somewhere [10:46] ivoks: hm. that could be an explanation.. === DanielN_ [~KodiaK@162.23.4.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:50] ree === ozamosi [~ozamosi@80.252.185.147] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:50] ivoks: you're right, it contains the patch [10:50] i don't know [10:50] what i saw yesterday night, i think it was too late already [10:51] khm... [10:51] :) [10:51] was my fault [10:51] "Companies like Progeny, Linspire, and Ubuntu..." [10:51] khm... [10:52] erm [10:52] that ian... [10:52] but who is upstream maintainer?? === DanielN_ is now known as DanielN_PD === sivang [~sivang@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:02] does anybody know what happened to the backports team? I haven't heard anything from them quite a long time === ivoks [~ivoks@backup.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:10] <\sh> siretart: me neither [11:16] hi \sh [11:16] \sh: I wanted to take a look at darcs-buildpackage, unfortunatly it is only available in breezy, so I thought about backporting, which.. ;) [11:16] <\sh> darcs? [11:17] I read some article about darcs, and did some rudimentary tests. it is a decentral scm, I think derived from arch in some way [11:18] <\sh> siretart: url? [11:19] http://abridgegame.org/darcs/, but I looked at the package already in hoary [11:19] and in debian unstable there is also darcs-buildpackage, but this is still on my todo list [11:38] hm. tla-load-dirs needs merging.. checking MOM merge for upload [11:38] but is looking good [11:39] what is your opinion, should the maintainer in the merged changlog from MOM be changed from scott to the reviewer? [11:40] <\sh> i don't know :( [11:42] asking in -devel === koke_ [~koke@155.210.13.152] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hsprang [~henning@d052012.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:53] are there any lazy MOTU in here besides me? [11:54] ok ok I am not a MOTU [11:55] ? [11:57] <\sh> hmmm..daniel.robbins@microsoft.com [12:07] lol [12:07] \sh: I need IRC nicks [12:08] anyway bill.gates@microsoft.com is more lazy [12:08] he is to lazy to close down the company [12:10] <\sh> HostingGeek: u don't know daniel robbins [12:10] <\sh> ? [12:10] no [12:10] you? [12:10] <\sh> yes [12:10] <\sh> founder and chief architect of gentoo linux [12:11] thats not the same guy [12:11] @ microsoft [12:11] he has a blog with his picture on it. [12:11] <\sh> tseng: drobbins is working for ms since the 23rd of may [12:11] well then there are 2 drobbins there [12:11] or you are misinformed [12:11] <\sh> tseng: and there is a daniel c. robbins @ ms hes 3d graphical expert [12:11] <\sh> tseng: read the gentoo planet :) [12:11] yes [12:12] <\sh> tseng: i mean: drobbins [12:12] er [12:12] no thanks [12:12] boring censored drivel [12:12] <\sh> tseng: it's big in the press [12:12] <\sh> tseng: and it's big on all planets, blogs, newsticker, whatever you can read [12:12] *YAWN* [12:13] congratulations on his new job [12:13] <\sh> tseng: my thoughts :) [12:13] <\sh> now he can drop the gentoo shop, and start contributing some money to the foundation ,-> [12:14] <\sh> anyways...coffee [12:16] moo [12:28] tseng: gooooood morning! :-D [12:29] hi all! :-) [12:31] :) === doko_ [~doko___@dsl-084-059-033-037.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [~ogra@p5089D69E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DanielN_ [~KodiaK@162.23.4.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:12] ARGH [01:13] can't belief that [01:13] DanielN_: are youm daniel r really [01:13] ? [01:14] HostingGeek: erm.. don't understand what you mean [01:15] DanielN_: we where talking a lot about him before === HostingGeek spams daniel.robbins@microsoft.com [01:16] HostingGeek: dude [01:16] HostingGeek: open your eyes [01:16] 'Daniel_N_' not 'Daniel_R_' [01:16] ARGH [01:16] :)) [01:16] can't belief that [01:16] lamont: maybe he is anrgy daniel_r_ was taken [01:17] now plz to -troll yourself [01:17] alternatively find the closest available cliff and fall off it [01:18] "fall" ;-) === Gervystar [~gervystar@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:35] ajmitch: what's the status of libsigcx ? === susus_ [~sz@p5089E486.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [~ogra@p5089E486.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:37] \sh: ping [01:41] \sh: nm === jamessan|work [~jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:04] ajmitch: what's the status of cln, ginac, freefem [02:06] doko, remind me that i owe you a bottle of single malt for doing my paperwork, next time we meet.... thanks a big lot :) [02:08] ogra: maybe you should be punished by bringing the bottle from Norway ;) [02:08] doko, too late.... i'm already back and have to build a first edubuntu CD during the ext two weeks :) [02:10] doko, but i have tzo go to london in the beginning of july, i could grab a nice bottle for you there :) [02:11] :) === ogra sighs about mondo/mindi .... whee, thats a whole lot of work to make it ready for ppc/amd64 [02:20] siretart: what's the status of libaqbanking? === trulux [~lorenzo@67.Red-80-25-56.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DanielN_ is now known as DanielN_PD [02:46] mhm [02:47] how are you all testing, that packages build on architectures that yourselfe doesn't have [02:47] ? === trulux [~lorenzo@trulux.user] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tritium [~tritium@ee213-dhcp-9.ecn.purdue.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:57] DanielN_PD: what's the status of aqsis? [02:58] DanielN_PD: what's the status of gdome2-xslt ? === mitsuhiko [~mitsuhiko@213.33.95.56] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:01] <\sh> Nafallo: pong [03:01] \sh: nm, but thanks for the wikipage about LocalAptGetRepositories :-) [03:02] \sh: what's the status of gnuradio? [03:03] <\sh> doko: no status update...the issue is raised at upstream but no change [03:03] which issue? [03:04] <\sh> doko: there is a compilation bug... [03:04] <\sh> > ../../src/lib/.libs/libgnuradio-core.so: undefined reference to [03:04] <\sh> > `gr_fxpt::TWO_TO_THE_31' [03:04] <\sh> > ../../src/lib/.libs/libgnuradio-core.so: undefined reference to [03:04] <\sh> > `gr_fxpt::PI' [03:04] <\sh> This is our problem... [03:04] <\sh> Eric [03:05] <\sh> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/discuss-gnuradio/2005-05/msg00176.html [03:05] with gfortran, or g77-3.4? [03:06] <\sh> g77-3.4 i think [03:07] <\sh> doko: what about ocaml? [03:08] waiting for daniels ... [03:08] <\sh> at least some showstoppers [03:12] \sh: what's the status of libpqxx ? [03:13] <\sh> doko: waiting for pitti :) [03:16] <\sh> ahhh. [03:17] <\sh> forget about pitti [03:17] <\sh> working like hell :) [03:17] <\sh> usr/include/postgres/8.0 [03:20] \sh: what's the status of snacc ? [03:20] <\sh> working on it...fixing stuff [03:20] <\sh> libpqxx uploaded [03:20] \sh: what's the status of libsndobj2 ? [03:20] :) [03:20] <\sh> thx rest is easy [03:21] <\sh> libflash i have to upload for Unfrgiven [03:22] doko: both finished [03:22] no wait [03:24] <\sh> argl [03:24] <\sh> libflash-swfplayerc2 [03:24] <\sh> nononono [03:25] doko: these libs aren't any more in my care! i just kept open the bug, and removed my name from the wiki list [03:26] <\sh> grmpf..i will fix libflash now [03:30] DanielN_PD: what the status "finished" or "I don't care" ? === bddebian [~bddebian@user216-178-65-218.netcarrier.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:30] Howdy [03:30] Good morning, bddebian === thesaltydog [~yoshi@host194-61.pool8023.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:30] Heya tritium [03:34] <\sh> ogra: ping [03:35] \sh, pong [03:35] <\sh> ogra: r u driving to the linuxtag? [03:35] \sh, nope... no time for that [03:37] <\sh> ogra: well, if i can manage I'm trying to get down there...and try to meet mako or anyone who is there [03:37] \sh, great.... go and represent ;) [03:37] \sh, you probably should contact mako before he travels [03:37] <\sh> ogra: what should I represent? ubuntu or gentoo e.v. germany ?,-) [03:38] \sh, your choice ;) [03:38] <\sh> ogra: first of all i have to check my account...:) [03:38] <\sh> ogra: yesterday I got the letter from the lawyer of my ex :( [03:38] awww... [03:39] <\sh> looks like i need a third job as a callboy or something... [03:39] heh, go ahead :) === Danten [~danten@h191n9c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:41] \sh, if you need any consultancy, in my life I got 2 letters from the lawyers of my 2 ex's.. [03:41] <\sh> thesaltydog: hahaha :) [03:41] <\sh> doko: what r we doing about this apache license vs. gp license issues? [03:42] DanielN_PD: please stop touching new packages, please fix your existing ones first (maybe ask \sh or ogra for help) [03:42] \sh: I didn't read that yet. [03:43] <\sh> doko: I raised it on ubuntu-devel ml...but looks like nobody is interessted ;) === |QuaD-_ [~QuaD@pcp0011386062pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:51] <\sh> and who put me on ogras bug as CC...doko? [03:51] doko: i don't care about these libs any more [03:51] doko: just for information [03:51] <\sh> DanielN_PD: which libs? [03:51] aqsis, libgdome2-xslt [03:52] <\sh> DanielN_PD: bugzilla entries? [03:52] are still there [03:52] \sh: I did CC you [03:52] \sh: if you want, I could put you as CC on all ogra's bugs? :-) [03:52] DanielN_PD: and what about the other libs? [03:53] \sh: but it wasn't me ;-) [03:53] doko: as you see, i've done a view of other libs yet.. and there are still such, where's my name in the wiki! and this one i do of course :) [03:53] \sh, didnt you do that yourself last week (iirc) ? [03:53] theese [03:53] <\sh> ogra: no [03:53] argh [03:54] <\sh> doko@ubuntu.com changed: [03:54] \sh, me neither... but i think i remember that you wanted to take them.... [03:54] <\sh> heute 15:43 [03:54] <\sh> ;) [03:54] <\sh> i upload most of the stuff of Unfrgiven now i'm taking DanielN_PDs stuff and took some of ajmitch [03:56] <\sh> doko: yeah i saw it..:) [03:56] <\sh> DanielN_PD: i took your bugs over...i will upload them later (when your debdiffs are ok, with your address) [03:59] \sh: huh? correct with adress? [03:59] and which bugs do you mean? gdome adn aqsis or the others? [04:00] <\sh> DanielN_PD: aqsis and gdome [04:00] <\sh> DanielN_PD: with your email address :) so the upload is recognized on your account :) [04:01] <\sh> https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MaintainerCandidates [04:01] <\sh> so many "want to be" maintainers have to show up again === lamont__ [~lamont@15.238.5.160] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:15] \sh: dont you mean posers :) [04:19] \sh: well, if this is ok, it's no problem for me! [04:20] \sh: but that means, that if something is wrong, the mails are sent to me, right? [04:21] zul: !status on rt2500? :) [04:21] Nafallo: waiting for 2.6.12 to be released [04:22] zul: but it has the latest bugfix I told you? :-) [04:22] Nafallo: its on the todo list we are trying to work on something that deals with rt2500 [04:22] please be patient [04:23] zul: hehe, I'll try :-) [04:23] zul: the is that module-watch-thing I guess? :-) [04:23] nope [04:24] going home [04:24] see ya later [04:24] k [04:29] <\sh> DanielN_PD: u r on the bug at all...so u get all the mails... === tritium [~tritium@ee213-dhcp-9.ecn.purdue.edu] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [04:33] <\sh> zul: no...i mean "want to be" maintainers :) [04:33] heh [04:35] <\sh> ok...time to go home... [04:35] <\sh> laters dude... [04:35] <\sh> TB meeting at 20:00 UTC :) === ofr [~ofrommel@ns.ntm-gmbh.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:37] hi === ivoks [~ivoks@backup.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:38] hi [04:39] doko: ping [04:39] or anyone else :) === spacey [~spacey@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === terrex [~terrex@84-122-69-8.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === stazz [~ville@a80-186-82-63.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DanielN [~daniel@84-72-116-38.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:18] ree [05:37] ARGH [05:37] ogra, sorry i changed something on a bug of you. took the wrong one, sry! [05:37] np [05:40] doko: damn, you're right my debdiff is wrong ;) [06:04] doko: sigcperl patch is fixed === chiefofthejojo1 [~bpitcher@216.70.250.130] has joined #ubuntu-motu === \S2 [~s2@host164-108.pool8254.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === plugwash [plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === |QuaD- [~QuaD@pcp0011386062pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chiefofthejojo1 [~bpitcher@216.70.250.130] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [06:56] pymol needs some python2.3->2.4 love === ivoks [~ivoks@lns01-0429.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === grover [~grover@216-99-218-29.dsl.aracnet.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rtcm [~jman@217.129.142.72] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thesaltydog [~pippo@62.211.45.57] has joined #ubuntu-motu === clee [~clee@clee.kde] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [07:25] any motu around to review a (trivial) modification to a debian package? [07:26] eh :) [07:26] sec.. [07:27] are there any plans to port OpenSolaris's SMF? [07:27] rtcm: where is your debdiff? [07:27] didn't do one, will do and post a link [07:27] ivoks: evil [07:28] zul: why evil? :) [07:28] licencse? [07:28] ivoks: its not under gpl and its solaris [07:28] zul: it's OSI certified [07:29] well, i didn't check license... [07:29] zul: ok, is there any other similar project? [07:30] lol [07:31] You may not remove or alter any copyright, patent or trademark notices contained within the Covered Software [07:31] that sucks [07:31] :) [07:32] ivoks: there you go: http://artemis.av.it.pt/~rmatos/ubuntu/ion3_20050607-2ubuntu1.debdiff [07:33] ivoks: OSI certified generally means nothing [07:33] elmo: i know [07:33] elmo: i'm reading license [07:33] ivoks: this package isn't being automatically imported from debian when it should given that the diff is a oneliner [07:33] elmo: btw... is there something wrong with my PGP? [07:34] rtcm: i don't think this will get into breezy [07:35] rtcm: contact Per Olofsson There must be a reson why he left xinerama out [07:35] ivoks: I don't know, last I heard, mako was going to talk to you about it - has he? [07:35] elmo: no [07:35] elmo: he just asked for my PGP ID [07:36] ivoks: ok, I'll have a look at my mail in a bit, and check with mako [07:36] elmo: i didn't heard from since then (week or two ago) [07:36] elmo: ok, thank you [07:36] ivoks: libxinerama doesn't exist in debian yet... [07:36] elmo: if you have any questions, please, contact me [07:37] rtcm: great! contact Per and suggest him this change [07:37] rtcm: or even better, send him this debdiff === thesaltydog [~pippo@62.211.45.57] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [07:39] rtcm: sorry [07:39] rtcm: tell that to ogra :) [07:39] ivoks: but while debian doesn't upgrade to xorg that package will be unbuildable there... [07:39] rtcm: yeah, i made a mistake [07:40] rtcm: ogra is "maintainer" in ubuntu [07:40] I will mail ogra then [07:40] ?? [07:40] ivoks, ? [07:40] here he is :) [07:40] ogra: you synced ion3 from debian [07:40] ivoks, its maintained by MOTU..... [07:40] ogra: ah, i see... [07:40] ivoks, feel free to change it :) [07:41] ogra: will do, as soon as I get upload rights :) [07:41] or if i get upload rights :) [07:41] ivoks, but tell it the debian maintainer if you did, he wants to know about it [07:41] ogra: i allways do that [07:41] great... this is really a trivial thing [07:41] they never respond :( [07:41] ivoks, great :) [07:42] rtcm: great, i'll download sid's source and patch with your debdiff [07:42] yes, yes, i know for uupdate :) [07:43] rtcm: your name is? [07:43] the one in the changelog :) [07:43] ah, Matos [07:44] ogra: i can leave his name/mail in changelog, right? [07:44] can't [07:44] or? [07:44] nope, not in changelog [07:44] ivoks: feel free to change it [07:44] ok [07:44] but in the maintainer field [07:45] maintainer field?! [07:45] doesn't that one allways stays from debian? [07:45] yes, please let elmo sync the recent version from debian before you apply the patch [07:47] btw, aren't this king of chages in the build-deps automatically handled by the importer scripts? [07:47] *kind [07:47] importer scripts? [07:47] i'm not aware of any scripts [07:47] only people :) === lsuactiafner [~noirrac@tpc-ip-nas-1-p78.telkom-ipnet.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:47] but i could be wrong [07:48] I thought the syncs to debian were automated [07:49] rtcm: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MOTUToReview [07:49] rtcm, they are... [07:49] rtcm: put link to your debdiff there [07:50] rtcm: so when ion3 gets synced, I will patch it [07:51] ivoks: in which section? i see three sections there [07:51] rtcm: first [07:54] ivoks: done, thanks [07:55] thank you [08:18] tseng, http://www.public.asu.edu/~bnickel/MuineTagger/ <-- thoughts? [08:19] i havent tried it === lesliev [~lesliev@ndn-165-152-217.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:19] i dont see the point [08:19] i use easytag [08:19] its a thousand times more powerful [08:19] and it doesnt clutter the freaking ui [08:20] there is no reason for them to have put that crap in the main window [08:20] Burgundavia: did you want me to tell you what i really thought? [08:21] I find easytag a piece of crap [08:21] and useing itunes, I realise that editing IS part of music libraries [08:21] :) [08:21] flamewar :) [08:21] i find this plugin a piece of crap [08:21] get out of my muine window [08:21] go in the File menu like everyone else [08:25] :) [08:25] coc guys :) [08:25] coc [08:25] dude [08:25] its nothing personal [08:25] coc? [08:25] bddebian: yes, CoC [08:26] ivoks likes coc [08:26] :P [08:26] oh man [08:26] What about my coc? [08:26] knock it off. [08:26] http://www.grawert.net/CoC.txt [08:26] :D [08:26] Heh === Mez huggles everyone in the room [08:27] aww, thx [08:27] :D [08:28] easytag is nice [08:28] and this muine tagger is nice [08:28] i'm sure both will have audience [08:29] ivoks: of course [08:32] tseng: why are they some red and some black listed files? [08:32] red means it fixed something [08:32] :> [08:32] and you didnt save the changes yet [08:32] hm... lots of fixing [08:33] you probably stole lots of music then :P [08:33] :) [08:33] i found CDs on the road :) [08:33] ah [08:33] and cddb totally farked your tags [08:33] since the cd was scratched.. [08:33] yeah [08:33] mess, dude, mess :) === ozamosi [~ozamosi@h207n6c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:34] lol [08:35] do you want to rename project_topaz to do_it_with_madonna [08:35] :)) [08:37] this is great app [08:37] muine tagger sucks :) === herve [~hcauwelie@ip-3.net-81-220-179.nice.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:41] hello [08:41] herve: hi [08:43] anyone available to review a package? [08:43] http://dev.kubuntu.org.uk/~jr/kubuntu/ivman [08:43] this makes me think... [08:43] DanielN, ping [08:44] rain... :( [08:57] bye all [08:57] see you at 20:00 UTC [09:26] herve: pong [09:27] DanielN, still need reviewing "when"? [09:27] <\sh> re [09:28] herve: you have to change your comment (md5mismatch is fixed) [09:28] and then it's ready i think [09:29] I remember I had other comments ;-) [09:30] herve: some dh_* which are not used :) [09:42] <\sh> Unfrgiven: ping [09:43] <\sh> hope he is here tonite === tritium [~tritium@ee213-dhcp-9.ecn.purdue.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:45] <\sh> DanielN: now i will take a look on your packages [09:45] <\sh> your cxx packages :) [09:46] \sh: again? :) [09:46] \sh: ahh [09:46] :> [09:46] <\sh> hehe...well i have a life as I realized lately ;) [09:47] ??? [09:47] can't follow.. [09:47] <\sh> DanielN: I wish i could work all day on this linux stuff and on my dtv main work :) === DanielN is attempting to smoke one :) [09:48] \sh: same here :) [09:48] well, not DTV but you now what i mean ;) [09:49] <\sh> u don't want to smoke dtv ? ,) === ivoks [~ivoks@lns01-0429.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:51] <\sh> DanielN: tell me, why do u change the name in debian/control but not the corresponding files for the installation? [09:51] hi [09:51] <\sh> aqsis-libs.dirs should be aqsis-libsc2.dirs [09:53] <\sh> changed also debian/rules [09:55] <\sh> ok... [09:55] <\sh> and where is debian/patches/aqsislibs_c2_patch.diff [09:56] tseng, is it worth reporting beagle bugs? [09:56] Burgundavia: depends on the bug [09:56] ill be glad to direct you [09:56] Unhandled Exception: System.TypeInitializationException: An exception was thrown by the type initializer for Beagle.Util.Inotify ---> System.DllNotFoundException: libMonoPosixHelper.so [09:56] you need libmono-dev [09:57] ah [09:57] we fixed this upstream [09:57] will hit soon [09:57] ok [09:58] cheers [09:58] working? [10:00] DanielN, begin reviewing, I hope your router is ok :-) [10:02] <\sh> don't we have meeting now? [10:02] yeah [10:08] herve: ? [10:08] hmmm... [10:08] how maintainers differ from motu? [10:08] herve, it should be ok [10:08] or then i'm a bad sysadmin ;) [10:09] DanielN, waiting server response... [10:09] lol sorry [10:09] then it's you, i tested it from several locations now [10:09] and it simply works [10:09] http://marissa.ath.cx/daniel/archive/breezy === robitaille [~robitaill@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:12] I could list the directory [10:12] but no wget... [10:12] Did wget ever get fixed in Debian and upstream? [10:12] no s [10:13] meeting time :) [10:13] herve: what have you been drinking? :) [10:14] what have I *not* been drinking? ;-) [10:14] hehehe [10:15] <\sh> DanielN: do u need upload space for your packages? [10:15] no, he needs a good router ;-) [10:15] herve: youre the one who sucks [10:15] :) [10:15] no, wget is [10:15] my router is ok :> [10:16] hm... [10:16] i need help a bit [10:16] just ctrl+c and run again, now it's ok [10:16] i renamed limeshio0 to libmeshio0c2 [10:16] i need to change shlibs file [10:17] herve: so you got it now? [10:17] it containts: libmeshio 0.2.0 meshio (>> 0.2.0-0), meshio (<< 0.2.0-99 === robitaille [~robitaill@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [10:17] DanielN, yes [10:17] i'm not sure what changes should i do [10:17] great [10:17] \sh, so maintainership is for main or I get it wrong? [10:19] DanielN, either you or I are doomed [10:19] md5sum mismatch [10:19] I'll use another tool [10:20] err [10:20] wait, it could be [10:22] <\sh> herve: no [10:22] herve: it isn't [10:22] <\sh> herve: maintainership is for upload in common [10:22] <\sh> herve: the differences are only upload for main or universe..so first universe and then some time after universe main [10:22] so both main uploader and motus apply... [10:23] ok, now I need to remember it :-) [10:23] <\sh> herve: yes [10:24] \sh: would you be able to look at my ivman package? [10:25] herve: still md5mismatch? it works for me [10:25] with apt-get source [10:25] <\sh> Riddell: i'm taking now all the kde packages [10:25] DanielN, I'm doing three thing at the same time :-) [10:26] and I already get difficulty to concentrate on a single one [10:26] ;> [10:26] I'll tell you when I'm over [10:26] \sh: http://dev.kubuntu.org.uk/~jr/kubuntu/ivman [10:28] <\sh> Riddell: what's the purpose of ivman? ,-) === herzi [~herzi@c205010.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:28] <\sh> ah...now i get it [10:28] <\sh> argl [10:28] hi folks [10:28] alternative to g-v-m [10:29] Mithrandir: in which channel is the nx meeting? [10:29] <\sh> Riddell: debian/copyright...only the first part..and then a pointer to /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL-2 [10:29] \sh: it's not GPL [10:29] lol [10:29] <\sh> or qpl [10:29] no QPL in /usr/share/common-licenses/ [10:29] <\sh> hmmm..we should update this [10:29] ivoks, really? someone was looking for a kde equivalent to gvm today :-) [10:29] herve: where abouts? [10:30] herve: ivman is no-gui [10:30] herve: it lacks some g-v-m fetures, but is good project [10:30] ivoks: which features? [10:30] I mean, adding an icon on the desktop and open a konqueror window on the media [10:30] herve: icon on desktop is already added [10:30] <\sh> Riddell: if you put it on MOTUNewPackages i would like to sign it ;) [10:30] Riddell: asking for password on mounting crypted usb stick [10:31] Riddell, in kubuntu hoary? [10:31] ivoks: hmm [10:31] ivoks: any docs on making a crypted usb stick? [10:31] herve: yes [10:31] Riddell: yes :) [10:35] DanielN, ok, I think we made a confusion [10:35] I mean, the orig.tar.gz is not the same as the upstream tarball [10:36] Riddell: http://www.flyn.org/easycrypto/easycrypto.html === jaldhar [~jaldhar@pcp09354467pcs.jersyc01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:37] herve: that is correct! ivoks said i should do it like that .. making changes and then pack the orig.tar.gz manually [10:37] err [10:37] ?! [10:37] ?? [10:37] i mean the upstream tarball === ivoks is double considering reviewing new DanielN's packages [10:38] you should rename the upstream tarball to when_1.0.23.orig.tar.gz and work from here [10:38] you're not supposed to package upstream releases yourself [10:38] remember to be as less intrusive as possible [10:39] yep [10:39] \sh: wiki doesn't want to work for me [10:40] but herve: if i want to change something in the upstream.. i must provide it as a patch ?? [10:40] DanielN, replace your orig with the upstream one renamed [10:40] regenerate a source package [10:40] and I approve it [10:40] <\sh> uh for me neither [10:41] DanielN, yes you do, and report it to upstream for inclusion in the next revision [10:41] argh i'm disappointet [10:42] <\sh> DanielN: why? [10:42] just rename the upstream tar to orig tar and rebuild? [10:42] herve: is this about when? [10:42] yeah [10:43] upstream tarball, when extracted, doesn't produce when directory [10:43] that's the problem [10:43] it creats some other directory [10:43] like release/ or something like that [10:43] when_dist [10:43] when_dist [10:44] this is wrong, and should be changed, imho [10:44] why? [10:44] that's why you get md5 mismatch [10:44] cause source should be in packagename-version [10:44] he gets md5 mismatch because he made a tarball on his own [10:44] ivoks, tell that to upstream [10:45] herve: on his own? [10:45] herve: i haven't an md5 mismatch [10:45] of his own? [10:45] i told him to rename that when_dist to when-version [10:45] <\sh> now its working again [10:45] and to gzip it and tar it [10:45] but when he runs dpkg-buildpackage [10:46] script creates .orig.tar.gz [10:46] ivoks, I understand your point of view, but you told it to the wrong person :-) === p0m [wodann@203-217-83-34.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:46] ivoks, no, the scripts compare the orig archive with the current state [10:46] but certainly won't touch the orig [10:46] any difference goes in the diff.gz [10:46] herve: there wasn't .oirg.tar.gz :) [10:46] unless it's a native package of course [10:47] ivoks, that's what I told him to do [10:47] unless he did something wrong :) [10:47] rename the filename of the upstream tarball [10:47] how do you get a orig otherwise? [10:47] hm [10:48] wifi-radar_1.9.4-0ubuntu2.tar.gz [10:48] for example [10:48] DanielN, you're going well? [10:48] ? [10:48] and i didn't have any archive in that dir [10:48] dpkg-buildpackage created it [10:49] hm.. [10:49] ivoks, hmmm... I may have missed it [10:49] I'll check later [10:49] but, you are right [10:49] this isn't .orig.tar.gz [10:49] my mistake :) [10:49] DanielN, you know what to do? [10:50] telling upstream maintainer? [10:50] this archive contains whole source, with debian/ [10:50] ah [10:50] DanielN, also :-) [10:50] and it shouldn't, because that must be created with the .diff.gz, right? [10:50] debian/ i mean [10:50] DanielN: get archive and rename it to when-version.orig.tar.gz [10:50] DanielN: right [10:51] when_version.orig.tar.gz :-) [10:51] hm [10:51] http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ch-first.en.html#s-dh_make [10:51] the "_" is important. it bit me several times in the past ;) [10:52] Package name and version are separated by the "_" . [10:52] ok, and then debuild :) === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:52] ah, wait!!! [10:52] stop!!!! [10:52] you should do dh_make [10:52] cool down :) [10:52] that will create .orig.tar.gz [10:52] with the unchanged upstream [10:52] hmm wait... [10:52] ? [10:53] DanielN: http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ch-first.en.html#s-dh_make [10:53] really strange [10:53] i told you to do dh_make, remember? [10:54] ivoks, don't make him mess his package :-) [10:54] herve: it's better to learn it right, mess is irelevant :) === tritium [~tritium@ee213-dhcp-9.ecn.purdue.edu] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [10:55] it isn't big package, therefor can't be too messy [10:55] but regenerating a whole source package... [10:55] herve: nah... he can erase debian/* [10:55] I thought that was easy [10:55] and copy his own stuff [10:55] but debuild keeps using when-1.0.23 directory [10:56] ah, i'm to tierd :) [10:57] don't tell me [10:57] me too guys [10:58] we should discuss about that at a funnier time :) [10:58] agree [10:58] I must admit I even forgot how one gets a orig.tar.gz :-) [10:59] it's not debuild [10:59] ;> [10:59] herve: By hand.. :-) [11:00] yeah, the most reliable ;-) [11:00] Just don't leave "shit" files in there like I always do.. :-) [11:00] herve: dh_make :) [11:01] ivoks, we are supposed to know how to handle packages by hand [11:01] aren't we, ogra? ;-) [11:01] ? [11:02] ah, yes :-D [11:02] herve, rather how to build packages with debhelper [11:02] :) [11:03] i think by hand is to much ;) [11:03] ogra, we wonder what makes a orig.tar.gz [11:03] tar ? [11:03] hehe [11:03] if i make a new package, i use just tar... the dh_make [11:03] <\sh> hey ogra [11:03] no, it's gzip :) [11:03] then even [11:03] tar xzvf [11:04] err [11:04] ogra, how to fix the orig.tar.gz [11:04] tar czvf [11:04] tar -xzf [11:04] fix [11:04] I thought moving the upstream tarball to that name [11:04] tar czf [11:04] and debuild -S was enough === bddebian hides [11:04] but dpkg-bp keeps using when-1.0.23 as a name [11:04] well, no [11:05] why do I worry? [11:05] :) [11:05] if debian wants when-1.0.23 in the diff.gz [11:05] but keeps when_dist in the orig [11:05] I'm perfectly ok with that [11:05] is breezy first distro that will be build with g++4/gcc4? [11:06] no, fedora core shipped with that [11:06] core 4 [11:06] ah, ok [11:06] not shipped with gcc4 [11:06] but build with it [11:06] built with too [11:07] then they have all the patches, don't they? [11:07] they provide a consistant set of packages and toolchain ;-) [11:07] many for sure [11:07] hmm... I'm wondering if you were there when we talked about it [11:08] where? [11:08] i'm new in ubuntu [11:08] in this very channel [11:08] but you came after the transition began, no? [11:08] i've been here only one month [11:08] and allready a MOTU :) [11:09] without upload rights :) [11:09] fake MOTU :) [11:09] <\sh> argl [11:09] <\sh> 3 packages, 3x patching time [11:09] where can I find a list of Sections for packages? [11:09] ah, bed... [11:09] bye all [11:10] bye [11:10] but fc4 is silly.. they provide a stable release with a rc kernel [11:10] <\sh> riddell: in /usr/share/lintian/checks/fields.desc? [11:10] <\sh> DanielN: rc means for redhat nothing...they have cox, alan cox. [11:10] Ridell, debian policy or http://packages.debian.org/unstable/ [11:10] DanielN, and OOo 2.0 by default [11:11] ;> [11:11] \sh: any idea which Section to put ivman in? [11:11] \sh: wohoooo.. he's the man :X [11:12] Riddell, I think of kde because this is quite specific, no? [11:12] DanielN, I'll sign tomorrow now [11:12] the wiki is dead anyway [11:12] night all [11:12] herve: no, the idea of it is that it's not specific [11:13] and no program that uses glib can really be called KDE [11:13] <\sh> well..difficult decision [11:14] <\sh> utils? [11:15] <\sh> i would say utils [11:15] utils it is then [11:15] <\sh> or otherosfs? ,-) === thesaltydog [~pippo@host57-45.pool62211.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tseng [~tseng@mail.thegrebs.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:20] <\sh> ok...time to go to bed [11:20] <\sh> have a hard day tomorrow...cu uys [11:20] <\sh> +g [11:21] \sh: gn8