| elmo | Riddell: don't ever b-d on build-essential | 12:13 |
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| Riddell | elmo: looks like cdbs strangeness | 12:30 |
| elmo | oh dear lord | 12:30 |
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| elmo | please tell me you're not using that auto-"""fix"""" b-d at buildtime MADNESS? | 12:30 |
| elmo | speaking of which, let me go and shout at jbailey | 12:31 |
| Riddell | I'm not aware of using any auto-"""fix"""" madness, it's just the normal kde.mk file included | 12:32 |
| elmo | there's some crack in cdbs lately that changes the build-depends on the fly | 12:33 |
| elmo | it's utter evilness and insanity | 12:33 |
| elmo | so much so, that I couldn't even tell you what/how to trigger it | 12:34 |
| dato | none of the known kde.mk files uses it | 12:34 |
| elmo | Riddell: how could it be CDBS then? you wrote the Build-Depends line, right? | 12:36 |
| Riddell | elmo: ah right, maybe it is the buildtime madness then, there's a control.in which gets turned into control with the correct cdbs version, and today it seems to have added build-essential | 12:37 |
| elmo | SATAN SATAN SATAN | 12:38 |
| Riddell | and there I was thinking I was being all clever by using cdbs advanced | 12:39 |
| Riddell | advanced bits | 12:39 |
| allee | Riddell: advanced not always makes sense. (optional print cdbs's build-depends is better imho.) | 12:55 |
| allee | Riddell: where to looks first for outstanding little kubuntu task? I've eventually installed breezy | 12:57 |
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| Riddell | allee: fixing media:/ would be nice | 01:32 |
| Riddell | need to compile KDE trunk to see if that works or not the backport as required | 01:32 |
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| doko | Riddell: did you contact Debian about the C++ ABI change? | 09:10 |
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| JRe | hiya | 09:43 |
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| JRe | Riddell: i have updated kay now the dialog is different for a usb device, audiocd, datacd and blankcd | 10:43 |
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| Riddell | doko: I contacted the Debian KDE packagers | 10:51 |
| doko | so -fvisibility is disabled? | 11:01 |
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| dato | doko: what for/about? | 11:38 |
| doko | because qt3 isn't ready | 11:41 |
| doko | .. to use -fvisibility | 11:41 |
| dato | 09:10 <doko> Riddell: did you contact Debian about the C++ ABI change? | 11:43 |
| dato | I referred to that ;) | 11:43 |
| dato | but perhaps was about -fvisibility only... | 11:43 |
| doko | Riddell, amu: I thought I did add the reference to the gentoo report in the changelogs, but I cannot find it there anymore ... :-/ | 11:43 |
| doko | dato: yes that was the reason | 11:44 |
| doko | it needs to be disabled in some packages | 11:44 |
| dato | doko: ok. perhaps it'd be nice to prepare a wiki page or similar with all this info. | 11:46 |
| dato | (info for KDE, I mean) | 11:46 |
| doko | Riddell: ^^^ | 11:46 |
| Riddell | I'll put something together | 11:50 |
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| KaiL | hmm, artsd crashes from time to time :/ | 03:10 |
| hunger | This is getting ridiculous! It's been taking me way longer to install linux than windows already. | 03:20 |
| hunger | Never had that before! | 03:20 |
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| dato | KaiL: alsa? | 04:04 |
| dato | KaiL: or oss? | 04:04 |
| KaiL | alsa | 04:05 |
| KaiL | go and let amarok play our list - after some hours, it says "bang" | 04:05 |
| dato | I recently changed arts to use alsa instead of oss, and I experience the same. | 04:06 |
| dato | (though amarok is not affected here since I have it output to alsa directly itself, i.e. not via arts) | 04:07 |
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| KaiL_hoary | (j #1zu160 | 06:26 |
| KaiL_hoary | ups | 06:26 |
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