| nate | mrmanic|afk: I'll give that a try...I haven't tried a logout after messing with the enviroment settings I thought they were instant...but I'll give it a try | 12:06 |
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| ToyMan | I can do a full install using the 'live' disk, yes? | 12:25 |
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| arthurb | ToyMan: yep | 12:35 |
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| bobbyd | hi | 01:20 |
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| liz4rd | lol | 01:26 |
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| stibby | i hear that a new kubuntu was released. How do i update from KDE 3.4 to KDE 3.4.1? (and similarly, is koffice's next version available?) | 01:57 |
| monchy | stibby: add deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary-updates main to your sources.list | 02:02 |
| stibby | k | 02:03 |
| stibby | what is/are the package(s) called? | 02:04 |
| stibby | (sorry; not on that computer right now :( ) | 02:04 |
| monchy | after you add it, do sudo apt-get update in konsole, then sudo apt-get upgrade | 02:04 |
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| monchy | it'll show you the list of packages that are to be downloaded | 02:05 |
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| kalenedrael | split | 02:10 |
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| Burgundavia | the fancy new kde-systemsettings, can I see some screenshots somewhere> | 02:16 |
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| penguinboy | Evening, Guys! | 02:17 |
| monchy | hey penguin | 02:18 |
| liz4rd | hey | 02:19 |
| monchy | herro | 02:20 |
| liz4rd | lol | 02:20 |
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| penguinboy | Hey hey hey monchy! | 02:20 |
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| monchy | what is up and i'll be back, time to order out | 02:21 |
| penguinboy | I am contrmplating installing Kubuntu on my laptop | 02:21 |
| liz4rd | DO IT | 02:22 |
| liz4rd | :P | 02:22 |
| penguinboy | okay! | 02:22 |
| penguinboy | here goes | 02:22 |
| liz4rd | the penguin comands it | 02:22 |
| penguinboy | someone is going to have to help me get my wireless working | 02:23 |
| liz4rd | ^_^ nominates monchy | 02:23 |
| penguinboy | mm | 02:23 |
| penguinboy | I put the install disk in....press enter to bypass startup...then it beeps twice and I get the messager Authentication of system services failed. Pres <ESC> to Resume. | 02:24 |
| liz4rd | lol | 02:24 |
| penguinboy | and it boots in XP | 02:24 |
| monchy | no don't nominate monchy lol | 02:24 |
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| liz4rd | :) | 02:24 |
| penguinboy | what do i do | 02:24 |
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| penguinboy | hey claydoh | 02:25 |
| penguinboy | hey kalenedrael | 02:25 |
| kalenedrael | hey | 02:25 |
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| penguinboy | it wont boot from the DVD | 02:26 |
| claydoh | hey | 02:26 |
| kalenedrael | hmm? | 02:26 |
| kalenedrael | penguinboy, check bios settings | 02:26 |
| kalenedrael | or try the CD... | 02:27 |
| penguinboy | mmm | 02:28 |
| liz4rd | anyone els notice fluxbox is shitty on ubuntu and kubuntu | 02:28 |
| liz4rd | ? | 02:28 |
| kalenedrael | likely is | 02:28 |
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| monchy | batman begins tomorrow woohoo | 02:32 |
| penguinboy | looks like no Kubuntu on my laptop | 02:32 |
| penguinboy | 8( | 02:32 |
| liz4rd | slackware then :D | 02:32 |
| kalenedrael | penguinboy, umm | 02:33 |
| kalenedrael | tried the CD? | 02:33 |
| penguinboy | I am using the Hoary CD | 02:33 |
| kalenedrael | can your laptop boot the kubuntu live portion of the DVD? | 02:33 |
| kalenedrael | will it boot from DVD at all? | 02:33 |
| kalenedrael | i don't think it's the distro's fault | 02:33 |
| penguinboy | no...i think it is a problem with my laptop | 02:34 |
| penguinboy | is salck an easy install? | 02:34 |
| penguinboy | slack | 02:34 |
| liz4rd | yeah | 02:34 |
| liz4rd | pretty straight forword | 02:34 |
| penguinboy | how many disks | 02:34 |
| liz4rd | 2 | 02:34 |
| liz4rd | it comes will loads of stuff | 02:34 |
| liz4rd | and all the main WM's | 02:35 |
| liz4rd | well you can select them | 02:35 |
| penguinboy | purty dekstop? | 02:35 |
| penguinboy | desktop | 02:35 |
| monchy | uses kde 3.4 | 02:35 |
| liz4rd | yeah you can have KDE, Gnome, xfce4, fluxbox, blackbox and osme others | 02:35 |
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| liz4rd | if you do full install | 02:35 |
| penguinboy | where should I get the isos? | 02:35 |
| nmorse | enlightenment | 02:35 |
| kalenedrael | i like kde | 02:35 |
| penguinboy | or can I install over the net? | 02:36 |
| nmorse | don't forget e | 02:36 |
| kalenedrael | unfortunately i like e more but it doesn't work | 02:36 |
| liz4rd | xfce4 is my girlfriend ^_^ | 02:36 |
| penguinboy | lol | 02:36 |
| monchy | lol | 02:36 |
| kalenedrael | i cannot stand gnome or gnome-based things like xfce | 02:36 |
| liz4rd | penguinboy: hold i'll give you the links | 02:36 |
| penguinboy | k | 02:36 |
| penguinboy | linuxiso.org? | 02:36 |
| liz4rd | kalenedrael: well poo you then | 02:36 |
| liz4rd | maybe | 02:36 |
| monchy | i don't think i could give up kde | 02:36 |
| liz4rd | do you want torrent file? | 02:36 |
| liz4rd | or striaght iso | 02:37 |
| penguinboy | that is okay | 02:37 |
| penguinboy | either or | 02:37 |
| kalenedrael | poo me? | 02:37 |
| kalenedrael | i think gnome is ugly | 02:37 |
| liz4rd | yeah its all i could ocme up with at the time | 02:37 |
| penguinboy | yes it is ugly | 02:37 |
| liz4rd | i do to | 02:37 |
| liz4rd | but i made my xfce look purdy | 02:37 |
| kalenedrael | it is not as configurable as kde | 02:37 |
| nmorse | Gnome is horribly ugly | 02:37 |
| nmorse | XFCE4 can be made all shiny and KDE-ified | 02:37 |
| liz4rd | with kde bassed icons and such | 02:37 |
| liz4rd | yeah | 02:38 |
| liz4rd | oooo nmorse you got to use these icons!!!! | 02:38 |
| liz4rd | hold on | 02:38 |
| liz4rd | http://xfce-look.org/content/download.php?content=23297&id=1 | 02:38 |
| nmorse | Hey, guess what, Ubuntu has mythv deb's!!! | 02:38 |
| nmorse | mythtv | 02:39 |
| liz4rd | whats that | 02:39 |
| nmorse | DVR software for Linux | 02:39 |
| liz4rd | oh cool | 02:39 |
| monchy | are those the gant icons liz lol | 02:39 |
| liz4rd | yeah!!!! | 02:39 |
| monchy | <3 those | 02:39 |
| liz4rd | also called umicons for kde | 02:39 |
| penguinboy | disc 1 downloading | 02:39 |
| liz4rd | i love them i use them on ever WM | 02:39 |
| liz4rd | :P | 02:39 |
| monchy | does it have icons from gant 3 included? | 02:40 |
| liz4rd | i think go look | 02:40 |
| penguinboy | gant 3! | 02:40 |
| liz4rd | its prttey big for an icon sety | 02:40 |
| liz4rd | set | 02:40 |
| liz4rd | covers everythign | 02:40 |
| monchy | thats why they are the best ;) | 02:40 |
| penguinboy | slack is only downloading at 32.0 KB/sec | 02:40 |
| liz4rd | yeah :D | 02:40 |
| liz4rd | nmorse: can i see a screeny of your desktop? | 02:40 |
| nmorse | Ah, so they're called umicons on KDE? | 02:41 |
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| nmorse | Probably not, liz4rd | 02:41 |
| monchy | liz your on kubuntu right? or are you using slack right now | 02:41 |
| nmorse | My ftp server's acting up and DCC not worky here | 02:41 |
| penguinboy | liz4rd....where is the bittorrent download of slack isos? | 02:41 |
| liz4rd | kubuntu | 02:41 |
| liz4rd | but i lasted the longest on slack | 02:41 |
| liz4rd | :P | 02:41 |
| kalenedrael | ok, you've made a believer out of me | 02:42 |
| liz4rd | who :P | 02:42 |
| kalenedrael | xfce r0z | 02:42 |
| kalenedrael | r0x* | 02:42 |
| liz4rd | yeah i knoqw | 02:42 |
| liz4rd | know | 02:42 |
| monchy | yeah can we install it on kubuntu? | 02:42 |
| kalenedrael | mmm... | 02:42 |
| liz4rd | i like it cuse of the simplicity and speed | 02:42 |
| liz4rd | eyah | 02:42 |
| kalenedrael | how is it in terms of memory usage? | 02:42 |
| liz4rd | sudo apt-get install xfce4 | 02:42 |
| nmorse | Yeah, but the Ubuntu XFCE themes don't work | 02:42 |
| monchy | will it be fubar cause of the archives though | 02:42 |
| liz4rd | yeah they do | 02:42 |
| nmorse | I've been trying to convert them, but it's not easy going | 02:42 |
| penguinboy | will apt work on Slack? | 02:42 |
| liz4rd | everything works | 02:43 |
| liz4rd | no | 02:43 |
| liz4rd | for slack | 02:43 |
| nmorse | I can't get the win decos to work | 02:43 |
| liz4rd | theres slap-get | 02:43 |
| liz4rd | or swaret | 02:43 |
| penguinboy | slap works like apt? | 02:43 |
| liz4rd | swaret is better than slap-get but not as good as apt-getr | 02:43 |
| liz4rd | penguinboy: http://slackware.com/torrents/slackware-10.1-install-d1.torrent | 02:43 |
| liz4rd | penguinboy: http://slackware.com/torrents/slackware-10.1-install-d2.torrent | 02:43 |
| penguinboy | there are 4 discs total here | 02:44 |
| liz4rd | the others are source | 02:44 |
| liz4rd | 3 and 4 = | 02:44 |
| liz4rd | ISO disc 3 (Sources part 1, /extra , Slackware book) | 02:44 |
| liz4rd | ISO disc 4 (Sources part 2, ZipSlack, /pasture) | 02:44 |
| monchy | alright gettin xfce4 now | 02:44 |
| liz4rd | sweet!!! | 02:44 |
| kalenedrael | sudo apt-get install xfce | 02:44 |
| liz4rd | i think the xfce comunity has to grow more | 02:44 |
| monchy | hopefully it won't eat all my memory like kde lol | 02:45 |
| liz4rd | lol oh god no | 02:45 |
| liz4rd | its really fast | 02:45 |
| kalenedrael | let's hope it works, unlike enlightenment | 02:45 |
| liz4rd | yeah i know what you mean | 02:45 |
| kalenedrael | yeah, kde is a bit memory hoggish | 02:45 |
| liz4rd | enlightenment looked cool on the site | 02:45 |
| kalenedrael | as much as i like it | 02:45 |
| liz4rd | gnome hogs the most | 02:45 |
| ijuz__ | kde takes nearly no memory | 02:45 |
| monchy | now that's a load of bs lol | 02:46 |
| liz4rd | lol yeah | 02:46 |
| kalenedrael | enlightenment was great for me, but it was so different from any other window manager i've used before that i couldn't get used to it | 02:46 |
| kalenedrael | ijuz__, haha | 02:46 |
| liz4rd | kde apps are faster than gnome apps tho | 02:46 |
| kalenedrael | are you kidding? | 02:46 |
| kalenedrael | kde uses like 250 megs just starting | 02:46 |
| ijuz__ | kalenedrael: it just uses a few MB | 02:46 |
| nmorse | Enlightenment's great, but not on Ubuntu | 02:46 |
| monchy | i'm up to 460mb right now | 02:46 |
| kalenedrael | O.o a "few" MB? | 02:46 |
| liz4rd | kalenedrael: yeah and had lots of glitches for me | 02:46 |
| kalenedrael | i call bullshit | 02:46 |
| monchy | ok brb | 02:46 |
| nmorse | I can't seem to get it or XFCE4 to work properly on Ubuntu | 02:46 |
| ijuz__ | kalenedrael: start only X and after that KDE it won't use much more | 02:47 |
| liz4rd | nmorse: | 02:47 |
| liz4rd | gdm> | 02:47 |
| liz4rd | > | 02:47 |
| liz4rd | ?*** | 02:47 |
| kalenedrael | X is using 9% of my memory | 02:47 |
| penguinboy | do you think Slack will recognize my wireless connections? | 02:47 |
| kalenedrael | that would be about 90MB | 02:47 |
| kalenedrael | kde uses about 160 on top of that | 02:47 |
| liz4rd | 1.3 for me | 02:48 |
| kalenedrael | liz4rd, X is using 1% of your mem? | 02:48 |
| kalenedrael | how much is that? | 02:48 |
| liz4rd | penguinboy: no clue never even touched wifi yet | 02:48 |
| liz4rd | kalenedrael: yup thats what top says | 02:48 |
| nmorse | liz4rd: stuff keeps failing to load or my clicks for menus don't work, etc. | 02:49 |
| ijuz__ | kalenedrael: so you are using fancy things, i just found a mail from me when i measured it a year ago, i guess it was KDE 3.2 and the box used 12 MB without X and after starting X and KDE is just used 56 MB | 02:49 |
| nmorse | the .xinitrc files are broken in the packages on Ubuntu, I think | 02:49 |
| liz4rd | thats messed | 02:49 |
| liz4rd | i thought ubuntu was great | 02:49 |
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| monchy | alrighty all done | 02:49 |
| penguinboy | wb monchy | 02:49 |
| liz4rd | till i fucked up the ls command with a rootkit ^_^ so i installed kubuntu and...boy was i wrong | 02:50 |
| kalenedrael | um | 02:50 |
| kalenedrael | ummm.... | 02:50 |
| liz4rd | think much? | 02:50 |
| kalenedrael | you fucked up your *own* box with a rootkit? | 02:50 |
| monchy | liz did you keep kde installed after putting on xfce? | 02:50 |
| liz4rd | yeah...it was brazilian | 02:50 |
| liz4rd | yeah | 02:51 |
| liz4rd | that way you can use the other apps | 02:51 |
| liz4rd | it runs fast together | 02:51 |
| liz4rd | faster than xfce4 and gnome id say | 02:51 |
| monchy | k | 02:51 |
| liz4rd | lol i thought enlightenment was next gen :P | 02:51 |
| nmorse | e17 will be | 02:52 |
| liz4rd | yeah i know | 02:52 |
| nmorse | It's crazy what they're doing with that thing | 02:52 |
| liz4rd | i cant wait | 02:52 |
| nmorse | Neither can I | 02:52 |
| liz4rd | have they set a date yet? | 02:52 |
| nmorse | I don't think so | 02:52 |
| liz4rd | cuz ii saw there plans for it like awhile ago | 02:53 |
| liz4rd | wonder if there taking a brake | 02:53 |
| nmorse | I don't know, I'll ask in #enlightenment | 02:53 |
| liz4rd | ok | 02:53 |
| penguinboy | okay...found a good download...235 KB/Sec | 02:54 |
| penguinboy | any other slack users in here? | 02:54 |
| liz4rd | just me i think | 02:54 |
| liz4rd | but i'm sure i can help | 02:54 |
| penguinboy | I am sure you can too | 02:54 |
| liz4rd | well i'm not using slack but i was one it for awhile | 02:54 |
| nmorse | I used it once | 02:54 |
| penguinboy | I have confidence in you | 02:54 |
| nmorse | and I used vector | 02:54 |
| nmorse | and college linux | 02:54 |
| penguinboy | i just hope it recognized my wireless on install | 02:55 |
| penguinboy | recognizes | 02:55 |
| nmorse | I always forget college when listing distros I've used | 02:55 |
| nmorse | and Ark | 02:55 |
| penguinboy | slack's homepage isn;t very snazzy | 02:56 |
| monchy | mm <3 chinese food | 02:56 |
| penguinboy | slack doesn;t just use tarballs does it...I am no good at installing from tarballs | 02:56 |
| liz4rd | for me: knoppixc was my first, then suse, fedora core 2, slackware, ubuntu and now kubuntu | 02:56 |
| liz4rd | right now my favs are kubuntu and slackware | 02:57 |
| nmorse | You've got Chinese food? Lucky! | 02:57 |
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| liz4rd | OMG PASS THAT FOOD!!! | 02:57 |
| monchy | oh yeah i love it, just takes too long to deliever | 02:57 |
| penguinboy | <loves Chinese food | 02:57 |
| monchy | 45 minutes wtf | 02:57 |
| nmorse | Debian 2.1, Red Hat 8-9, SuSE 8.2 Personal, Debian Sid, Gentoo, Ubuntu for ones I stuck with | 02:57 |
| liz4rd | i wish to one day succesfully install gentoo | 02:58 |
| nmorse | Mandrake 9.2,10, Ark, College, Vector, et als. I just played with | 02:58 |
| nmorse | I did a stage 2 I think | 02:58 |
| penguinboy | gentoo is a HARD install | 02:58 |
| liz4rd | yeah? | 02:58 |
| penguinboy | yeah | 02:58 |
| nmorse | Stage 1 is a retarded way to go unless your computer can be down for days | 02:58 |
| nmorse | And if you RTFM it's pretty easy for Stage 2 at least | 02:59 |
| penguinboy | I never ever RTFM! | 02:59 |
| liz4rd | whats that? | 03:00 |
| penguinboy | LOL | 03:00 |
| penguinboy | LOL | 03:00 |
| penguinboy | Read | 03:00 |
| penguinboy | the | 03:00 |
| penguinboy | lol | 03:00 |
| nmorse | Read the Friend Manual | 03:00 |
| nmorse | Friendly* | 03:00 |
| nmorse | Better than other F adjectives, if you ask me | 03:00 |
| penguinboy | no | 03:00 |
| liz4rd | lol | 03:00 |
| penguinboy | lol | 03:00 |
| nmorse | penguinboy: you should RTFM | 03:01 |
| nmorse | It makes life easier | 03:01 |
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| penguinboy | i know | 03:01 |
| nmorse | And those of use who are elitist snobs will tell you that every day | 03:01 |
| penguinboy | RTFM is generally my downfall | 03:01 |
| liz4rd | hold on i'm put an upload script on my server so you guys can upload your screenys :D | 03:01 |
| kalenedrael | yeah, there are those people | 03:01 |
| nmorse | It's what to do after you screw up, right? | 03:01 |
| penguinboy | oh yes nmorse...there are SEVERAL of those over in Fedora | 03:01 |
| kalenedrael | i've never told someone to rtfm :P | 03:01 |
| nmorse | Fedora, elitist? | 03:02 |
| penguinboy | Fedora snobs | 03:02 |
| nmorse | Nah, try Gentoo's zealots and Debian's mailing list | 03:02 |
| penguinboy | I would ask a questions and they would inevitably say...RTFM! | 03:02 |
| kalenedrael | yeah | 03:02 |
| nmorse | I really don't say that much | 03:02 |
| monchy | oh god these egg rolls | 03:02 |
| nmorse | Or I say it nicer | 03:02 |
| nmorse | I hate egg rolls | 03:02 |
| penguinboy | I LOVE EGG ROLLS! | 03:02 |
| kalenedrael | even when the fabled "FM" doesn't have anything you need in it | 03:02 |
| nmorse | Cabbage should never be cooked | 03:02 |
| penguinboy | LOL kale | 03:02 |
| kalenedrael | i like chinese food | 03:03 |
| nmorse | I want some Pork Lo Mein now, you jerk | 03:03 |
| penguinboy | Where does one get this mysterious and often ellusive FM???? | 03:03 |
| monchy | ooh i got this spicy ginger beef too | 03:03 |
| penguinboy | if you download the ISOs....there is no FM | 03:03 |
| nmorse | man program | 03:03 |
| liz4rd | rmFM? | 03:03 |
| liz4rd | fm* | 03:03 |
| kalenedrael | well, there is | 03:04 |
| kalenedrael | you apt-get install package-doc | 03:04 |
| kalenedrael | where package is the name of the package you want the docs fo | 03:04 |
| kalenedrael | r | 03:04 |
| nmorse | I think the Docs should be installed by default | 03:05 |
| kalenedrael | they should | 03:05 |
| nmorse | For a n00b-friendly distro, not doing this is retarded | 03:05 |
| penguinboy | What are the nOOb-friendly distroas? | 03:06 |
| seth_k | Linspire :D | 03:06 |
| penguinboy | definitely not Gentoo | 03:06 |
| nmorse | Ubuntu/Kubuntu, SuSE really, Ark when it fixes its bugs | 03:06 |
| kalenedrael | genpoo | 03:06 |
| nmorse | Debian Sarge even | 03:06 |
| liz4rd | how much is 10 megs in bytes? | 03:06 |
| penguinboy | I never coul get Debian to install | 03:06 |
| kalenedrael | fedora is pretty user-friendly | 03:06 |
| kalenedrael | i hate mandrake/mandriva | 03:06 |
| liz4rd | fedora hated my moniture | 03:07 |
| penguinboy | 10,000,00? | 03:07 |
| kalenedrael | i could not stand it | 03:07 |
| nmorse | Have you tried the new debian-installer, penguinboy ? | 03:07 |
| penguinboy | no | 03:07 |
| nmorse | It's what Ubuntu uses | 03:07 |
| seth_k | liz4rd: 1,000 bytes is one KB. 1,000 KB is one MB | 03:07 |
| nmorse | By base 8, penguinboy, not base 10 | 03:07 |
| penguinboy | oops | 03:07 |
| kalenedrael | liz4rd, got one of those weird WXGA displays? | 03:07 |
| nmorse | 1024, not 1000 | 03:07 |
| liz4rd | nah cyber vision or w/e | 03:07 |
| nmorse | Learn your binary | 03:07 |
| penguinboy | are there any ebian users in the room? | 03:07 |
| seth_k | nmorse, decimal vs. binary | 03:07 |
| seth_k | nmorse, tell that to hard drive makers :P | 03:07 |
| nmorse | Binary is all important | 03:08 |
| penguinboy | what about hexadecimal | 03:08 |
| kalenedrael | i should hope that most of us use kubuntu, considering what channel it is | 03:08 |
| nmorse | I use Debian sometimes | 03:08 |
| nmorse | Hex is just double-word binary | 03:08 |
| penguinboy | sixteen bit | 03:08 |
| nmorse | Take an A+ class sometimes | 03:08 |
| nmorse | Yeah, double-word binary | 03:08 |
| penguinboy | right | 03:08 |
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| nmorse | A word being 8 bytes, double-word being hex | 03:09 |
| kalenedrael | ok, how do i get xfce and e to show up in my session type at the login screen? | 03:09 |
| nmorse | Copy from /usr/share/sessions | 03:09 |
| kalenedrael | to... where? | 03:09 |
| nmorse | Good question | 03:09 |
| nmorse | To /usr/share/apps/kdm/sessions of course | 03:09 |
| penguinboy | of course | 03:09 |
| nmorse | Far be it for the Ubuntu team to make sure the packages install to DM's properly | 03:10 |
| kalenedrael | yeah... | 03:10 |
| nmorse | I'm telling you, if I ever get off my lazy bum, I'm fixing this distro | 03:10 |
| penguinboy | kewl | 03:10 |
| nmorse | I was going to make my own distro, but I like this one | 03:11 |
| liz4rd | lol | 03:11 |
| kalenedrael | ls /usr/share/xsessions returns kde.desktop | 03:11 |
| nmorse | Mostly due to being debian based, but upgraded often | 03:11 |
| kalenedrael | i can't find the enlightenment.desktop or xfce.desktop | 03:12 |
| nmorse | Hmm | 03:12 |
| nmorse | I have both enlightenment and xfce4 in my /usr/share/xsessions | 03:12 |
| nmorse | Maybe it was copy from /usr/share/apps/kdm/sessions to /usr/share/xsessions | 03:12 |
| liz4rd | brb everyone hair cut | 03:12 |
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| kalenedrael | woot, i can install packages without having to clean up the disk :P | 03:14 |
| kalenedrael | as in, uninstalling old ones | 03:14 |
| nmorse | What was the problem before? | 03:14 |
| kalenedrael | on my other compys and prior to repartitioning the hard drive on this, i only had a few gigs for linux | 03:15 |
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| === nmorse is installing mythv right now | ||
| nmorse | mythtv* | 03:16 |
| kalenedrael | what's that? | 03:18 |
| nmorse | Now if I can figure out how to make apt and dpkg use distcc for building packages, I'll be set | 03:18 |
| nmorse | Mythtv is a DVR program, like TiVo | 03:19 |
| nmorse | I'm installing it so I can use my Video Capture card to record my Halo 2 sessions and of course store TV shows, skip ads, etc | 03:19 |
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| kalenedrael | i wonder how i lived without sudo and apt-get | 03:24 |
| nmorse | What other distros did you use? | 03:24 |
| nmorse | Though life without them is hard to imagine these days | 03:24 |
| kalenedrael | fc3 and rh8 | 03:24 |
| nmorse | I tried going back once, to Gentoo actually | 03:24 |
| nmorse | When I got back here, I realized how much I had missed apt | 03:24 |
| kalenedrael | heh | 03:24 |
| kalenedrael | yeah, apt is great | 03:25 |
| nmorse | Red Hat 8 was crap though | 03:25 |
| nmorse | Fedora Core 3 was one of their worst releases too, so I hear | 03:25 |
| nmorse | So welcome to the actual desktop linux community | 03:25 |
| nmorse | Here's hoping Ubuntu doesn't become just a fad distro, here today, much less popular tommorrow | 03:25 |
| kalenedrael | thanks | 03:25 |
| kalenedrael | yeah... | 03:26 |
| kalenedrael | ubuntu is a very well-designed distro | 03:26 |
| monchy | it won't be, but that all depends on breezy | 03:26 |
| kalenedrael | i originally thought "wtf, it's only one CD?" | 03:26 |
| kalenedrael | and wondered how all the packages can fit on that | 03:26 |
| nmorse | They can't is the only answer | 03:27 |
| nmorse | Debian Sarge took 14 | 03:27 |
| kalenedrael | well, they don't, but you only download the packages you need later, which is very nice | 03:27 |
| kalenedrael | yeah, you have a functional desktop complete with important programs, then you use apt to get more stuff | 03:27 |
| nmorse | Universe is your friend | 03:27 |
| kalenedrael | multiverse is my friend | 03:28 |
| nmorse | I attempted to join the Linux room on Yahoo | 03:28 |
| nmorse | Then someone asked how to remotely login to the localhost from the localhost | 03:28 |
| nmorse | And I had to leave to preserve my sanity | 03:28 |
| nmorse | Remotely and localhost just don't mix | 03:29 |
| kalenedrael | yeah.... | 03:30 |
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| penguinboy | sproingie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 | 03:32 |
| monchy | man what a shitty fortune | 03:33 |
| penguinboy | what was it | 03:34 |
| monchy | "you may attend a party where strange customs prevail" | 03:34 |
| penguinboy | LOL | 03:34 |
| penguinboy | perhaps a live animal sacrifice? | 03:34 |
| penguinboy | lol | 03:34 |
| monchy | ;( | 03:34 |
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| penguinboy | hey tron | 03:35 |
| === penguinboy smells Chinese food! | ||
| monchy | oh yah theres lots left | 03:36 |
| penguinboy | my wife and I have Chinese buffet every Saturday afternoon! | 03:37 |
| nmorse | I need to hit the local Chinese buffet | 03:37 |
| penguinboy | mmm mmm good | 03:37 |
| monchy | mmm buffet | 03:37 |
| nmorse | Some Pork Lo Mein and General Tso's Chicken would be excellent right now | 03:37 |
| penguinboy | mmm honey chicken! | 03:37 |
| nmorse | Rat on a Stick! | 03:37 |
| monchy | if the generals chicken is spicy i'm down lol | 03:37 |
| penguinboy | lol | 03:38 |
| penguinboy | lol | 03:38 |
| monchy | <3 spicy food | 03:38 |
| monchy | because one day when i'm old, i won't be able to enjoy it | 03:38 |
| penguinboy | Chinese and Mexican are my favorite! | 03:38 |
| nmorse | General Tso's and Pepper Chicken are what you need then, monchy | 03:38 |
| nmorse | Try Thai Chicken too | 03:39 |
| nmorse | Thai food is always spicyh | 03:39 |
| nmorse | It's like the Cajun of Asian | 03:39 |
| penguinboy | yes ALWAYS | 03:39 |
| monchy | mm sounds good | 03:39 |
| penguinboy | fried bean curd! | 03:39 |
| nmorse | Any varitey of noodle dish! | 03:39 |
| nmorse | variety* | 03:39 |
| penguinboy | lots | 03:39 |
| penguinboy | and lots | 03:39 |
| nmorse | It's hard for me to type while salivating | 03:40 |
| penguinboy | lol | 03:40 |
| monchy | lol | 03:40 |
| monchy | order out! | 03:40 |
| nmorse | Too far to go, and I'm broke | 03:40 |
| penguinboy | okay...i've got the 1st Slack disc! | 03:40 |
| nmorse | They don't deliver here, and it's in the next town | 03:40 |
| nmorse | The really good Chinese is 45 minutes away | 03:41 |
| penguinboy | Sushi Bar!!! | 03:41 |
| monchy | don't like sushi :x | 03:41 |
| penguinboy | mmm mmm good | 03:41 |
| nmorse | Sushi's all right | 03:42 |
| nmorse | Had some in California | 03:42 |
| nmorse | Laughed at the vegetarian sushi there | 03:42 |
| penguinboy | odd | 03:42 |
| nmorse | I'm going to go away now and do something else before I get the compulsive urge to drive to New China Buffet | 03:43 |
| penguinboy | lol | 03:43 |
| monchy | you can do it! | 03:43 |
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| penguinboy | Hey Marcelo | 03:44 |
| penguinboy | okay here comes disc 2 | 03:45 |
| monchy | slackware going to be your main? | 03:46 |
| penguinboy | no.....just on my laptop | 03:46 |
| penguinboy | i like Kubuntu too much to drop it | 03:46 |
| penguinboy | you can;t beat apt-get | 03:46 |
| monchy | me and my full stomach agree with you | 03:47 |
| penguinboy | lol | 03:47 |
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| penguinboy | i wish I could get Ubuntu on my lap | 03:47 |
| penguinboy | wb mrmanic | 03:47 |
| monchy | what would you use if there was a xubuntu though :p | 03:47 |
| penguinboy | xubuntu? | 03:48 |
| monchy | xfce-buntu | 03:48 |
| penguinboy | oh | 03:48 |
| penguinboy | they slackware folks in #slackware say that the Slack install should pick up my wireless....that is all I want...to have a 100% Linux Laptop | 03:48 |
| penguinboy | the slackware folks | 03:49 |
| monchy | hmmm | 03:51 |
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| monchy | i think nmorse actually went to new china buffet lol | 03:56 |
| penguinboy | haha | 03:57 |
| penguinboy | he seems to possess a lot of Linux knowledge | 03:57 |
| monchy | yeah he's a smart guy, good to have around | 03:58 |
| penguinboy | It would be kewl to possess the knowledge to be able to build your own distro | 03:58 |
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| penguinboy | welcoem ro28!!! | 04:00 |
| ro28 | Hello penguinboy :-) | 04:00 |
| penguinboy | The Amazing Adventures of PenguinBoy...www.penguinboy.us | 04:00 |
| monchy | and orneryboy | 04:01 |
| penguinboy | oh yes....and orneryboy! | 04:01 |
| monchy | ;D | 04:02 |
| penguinboy | the ornerier the better | 04:02 |
| ro28 | Advertising your blog on IRC? Shameful! :-) | 04:02 |
| penguinboy | sniff sniff | 04:02 |
| === penguinboy feels so ashamed that he self promotes himself through www.penguinboy.us | ||
| penguinboy | lol | 04:03 |
| penguinboy | www.orneryboy.com | 04:04 |
| monchy | best comic evar | 04:04 |
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| penguinboy | si | 04:04 |
| penguinboy | welceom sbc13 | 04:04 |
| penguinboy | The Amazing Adventures of PenguinBoy...www.penguinboy.us | 04:04 |
| penguinboy | www.orneryboy.com | 04:05 |
| sbcl3 | i'm having problems getting kde 3.4.1... i've added "deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 main" to sources.list . What's wrong? | 04:05 |
| penguinboy | lol | 04:05 |
| penguinboy | the repositories are down | 04:05 |
| monchy | did you sudo apt-get update after etc etc etc | 04:05 |
| kalenedrael | ok, some problems with xfce | 04:05 |
| kalenedrael | 1) i want my desktop backgrounds to switch every five minutes as they do in KDE | 04:06 |
| kalenedrael | 2) i want a clear panel and a taskbar that's integrated into the panel (again, like in KDE) | 04:06 |
| sbcl3 | penguinboy: are you sure? the other ones aren't | 04:06 |
| penguinboy | so switch back to KDE | 04:06 |
| ro28 | kalenedrael: So use KDE... :-) | 04:06 |
| penguinboy | lol | 04:06 |
| monchy | xfce is lightweight though | 04:07 |
| penguinboy | sbc13...they were down yesterday and the day before | 04:07 |
| kalenedrael | yeah, i know | 04:07 |
| kalenedrael | xfce uses less memory | 04:07 |
| kalenedrael | not that i'm overly concerned about memory usage... | 04:07 |
| penguinboy | how much mem you got? | 04:08 |
| kalenedrael | a gig | 04:08 |
| penguinboy | wowzer | 04:09 |
| monchy | if you see the place where you can install icon packs let me know -.- | 04:09 |
| sbcl3 | does kde have any good chess apps? | 04:09 |
| penguinboy | can you apt-get shockwave???? | 04:09 |
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| penguinboy | welcome dewey!!! | 04:12 |
| sbcl3 | i'm having a big problem. i installed koffice, but kiten doesn't work. at all. | 04:13 |
| sbcl3 | it can't find "libkiten" | 04:13 |
| sbcl3 | has anyone here gotten kiten to work through apt? | 04:14 |
| penguinboy | not me | 04:14 |
| sbcl3 | did you try? | 04:15 |
| penguinboy | do you not like openoffice? | 04:15 |
| penguinboy | no | 04:15 |
| sbcl3 | kiten.. is a japanese reference tool | 04:15 |
| sbcl3 | as far as i know, ooo doesn't quite have that yet. | 04:15 |
| penguinboy | oh | 04:15 |
| sbcl3 | (the rest of the koffice stuff worked fine) | 04:15 |
| sbcl3 | and no, i don't like ooo | 04:15 |
| penguinboy | can you apt-get shockwave??? | 04:15 |
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| Elsidox | is it just me or when you install and enable the nvidia driver your fonts and icons get really mest up? | 04:32 |
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| liz4rd | yay back from my hair cut :D | 04:33 |
| penguinboy | wonderful! | 04:33 |
| monchy | wb liz & penguin | 04:33 |
| liz4rd | :) | 04:33 |
| penguinboy | i just downloaded the 1st two Slacks | 04:33 |
| monchy | keep me updated, might want to try it out | 04:33 |
| penguinboy | k | 04:34 |
| penguinboy | liz I do not need 3 and 4? | 04:34 |
| liz4rd | no | 04:34 |
| penguinboy | is that source? | 04:34 |
| sbcl3 | that guy was right... all of them have been down | 04:34 |
| liz4rd | yeah | 04:34 |
| liz4rd | just source | 04:34 |
| penguinboy | k | 04:34 |
| sbcl3 | :( | 04:34 |
| sbcl3 | when will they be back up? | 04:34 |
| penguinboy | what? | 04:34 |
| penguinboy | oh | 04:34 |
| penguinboy | repositories | 04:35 |
| liz4rd | are tehy? | 04:35 |
| liz4rd | they* | 04:35 |
| penguinboy | i would have thought they would be back up by now | 04:35 |
| monchy | still fubar | 04:35 |
| penguinboy | lol | 04:35 |
| penguinboy | it is burning iso time | 04:36 |
| monchy | good luck and don't use kodak cds >< | 04:36 |
| kalenedrael | liz4rd, how do i get transparent menus and panel in xfce? | 04:36 |
| kalenedrael | and how do i get it so that the taskbar is part of the panel? | 04:36 |
| liz4rd | oh god if i knew i would tell you :P i was tryting to find out my self today aswell | 04:36 |
| liz4rd | i dont think you can make it apart of it | 04:37 |
| liz4rd | i use the lil star icon box | 04:37 |
| liz4rd | its better | 04:37 |
| liz4rd | make sure to alwasy save your configureation when you exit xfce4 tho | 04:37 |
| kalenedrael | ok | 04:37 |
| kalenedrael | yeah | 04:37 |
| kalenedrael | i'm using the brushed metal theme | 04:37 |
| liz4rd | \ | 04:38 |
| liz4rd | cool | 04:38 |
| liz4rd | when you download xfce themes or just gtk 2 themes | 04:38 |
| liz4rd | all you have to do is untar them into ~/.themes | 04:38 |
| liz4rd | same with icons | 04:38 |
| liz4rd | into ~/.icons | 04:38 |
| kalenedrael | ok | 04:39 |
| penguinboy | how long does a slack install take? | 04:39 |
| liz4rd | whast your system specs | 04:39 |
| penguinboy | Laptop Centrino M Processor, 1.3 GhZ, 512 MB RAM | 04:40 |
| liz4rd | lil over 30 ,min | 04:40 |
| penguinboy | 1.7 GhZ | 04:40 |
| penguinboy | does it do extended install fromt eh net? | 04:41 |
| liz4rd | no | 04:41 |
| penguinboy | will you be here 30 more minutes> | 04:42 |
| liz4rd | yeah | 04:42 |
| liz4rd | all night | 04:42 |
| penguinboy | great | 04:42 |
| liz4rd | :D | 04:42 |
| penguinboy | my 1st iso is almost burnt | 04:42 |
| sbcl3 | can it be done with k3b? | 04:42 |
| liz4rd | cool | 04:42 |
| monchy | blah none of my walls will change in xfce lol | 04:42 |
| liz4rd | no? | 04:42 |
| liz4rd | are they brown? | 04:42 |
| monchy | nope | 04:43 |
| liz4rd | whta color are tehy? | 04:43 |
| liz4rd | sometime gdm hate xfce | 04:43 |
| penguinboy | chartreuse | 04:43 |
| penguinboy | lol | 04:43 |
| liz4rd | are you on ubuntu or kubuntu | 04:43 |
| monchy | kubuntu of course | 04:43 |
| penguinboy | lol | 04:43 |
| liz4rd | :P | 04:44 |
| liz4rd | then i dont know | 04:44 |
| liz4rd | #xfce they know i had that problem before but i cant member | 04:44 |
| penguinboy | liz is a Gnome freak? | 04:44 |
| liz4rd | penquinboy: when your done installing your gonna have to know what to do once your loged in :P cuz it doesnt have a manager like other os's. With slack your in text mode untill you type " startx " | 04:45 |
| liz4rd | but after your done installing and logged it to root | 04:45 |
| liz4rd | type xorgconfig | 04:45 |
| liz4rd | once you complete that | 04:45 |
| liz4rd | type wmconfig and pick a WM | 04:45 |
| liz4rd | then after out of that | 04:46 |
| liz4rd | type startx | 04:46 |
| liz4rd | and BAM | 04:46 |
| liz4rd | insta slack | 04:46 |
| monchy | just like emeril | 04:46 |
| penguinboy | wm? | 04:46 |
| liz4rd | write this down :P | 04:46 |
| liz4rd | window manager | 04:46 |
| penguinboy | DUH | 04:46 |
| liz4rd | gnome , kde, XFCE4 :D | 04:46 |
| liz4rd | flux most common ones | 04:46 |
| sproingie | none of those are wm's | 04:47 |
| liz4rd | ... | 04:47 |
| sproingie | they're de's | 04:47 |
| liz4rd | explain | 04:47 |
| sproingie | de == desktop environment | 04:47 |
| liz4rd | yeah | 04:47 |
| sproingie | they have a window manager | 04:47 |
| liz4rd | but the command is wmconfig so.... | 04:47 |
| sproingie | they aren't the window manager any more than kde is kwin | 04:47 |
| liz4rd | w/e you all know what i mean | 04:47 |
| liz4rd | excuse me while i take a chat | 04:48 |
| liz4rd | shat* | 04:48 |
| liz4rd | ^_^ | 04:48 |
| penguinboy | too much info | 04:48 |
| monchy | yes, way too much | 04:48 |
| sproingie | not sure if gnome is still agnostic about wm's | 04:48 |
| sproingie | kde pretty much assumes you use kwin. possible to use others, but not everything likes it | 04:49 |
| liz4rd | oops well i guess i didnt have to | 04:51 |
| liz4rd | lol sorry bout that | 04:51 |
| penguinboy | did you wash your hands? | 04:51 |
| liz4rd | i'll say bathroom next time | 04:51 |
| liz4rd | yes | 04:51 |
| penguinboy | good | 04:51 |
| liz4rd | is it wrong if i say i thought if you while i was washing them | 04:51 |
| liz4rd | XD jk | 04:51 |
| penguinboy | numero dos is a bunrin' | 04:51 |
| liz4rd | cool | 04:51 |
| penguinboy | lol | 04:52 |
| penguinboy | lol | 04:52 |
| penguinboy | lol | 04:52 |
| liz4rd | :D | 04:52 |
| penguinboy | 82% | 04:52 |
| liz4rd | did you take note of what i said? | 04:52 |
| penguinboy | si Senor | 04:52 |
| liz4rd | alright | 04:52 |
| penguinboy | 95% | 04:53 |
| liz4rd | :( the php upload script i downloaded doesnt work :( | 04:53 |
| penguinboy | 8( | 04:53 |
| liz4rd | it was for you guys to upload your sscreenshots :( | 04:53 |
| penguinboy | that would be nice | 04:54 |
| penguinboy | very nice | 04:54 |
| liz4rd | yeah it would if only it wasnt hateing my webhost | 04:54 |
| liz4rd | anyone wanna hook a loonix g33k up with some hosting? | 04:54 |
| liz4rd | lol...loonix ^_^ | 04:54 |
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| penguinboy | my laptop is not letting me boot fromt he DVD | 04:55 |
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| Consty | After installing kubuntu and making a user, how do I go about using sudo and such because every time I try to I cant because it prompts for a password | 04:56 |
| liz4rd | use your username password | 04:56 |
| Consty | How am I supposed to add myself to sudoers if I dont have access to the sudoers file and such.. | 04:56 |
| penguinboy | it will prompt you | 04:56 |
| microhaxo | yo guys, i just installed kubuntu, I AM AMAZED, great little os, and im a windows user.. | 04:56 |
| penguinboy | GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 04:56 |
| liz4rd | welcome :) | 04:56 |
| microhaxo | i want to know, how can i install ATI drivers? | 04:56 |
| liz4rd | to the darkside... | 04:56 |
| penguinboy | liz...I can;t boot fromt he DVD | 04:56 |
| liz4rd | you burnt a dvd? | 04:56 |
| liz4rd | wtf | 04:56 |
| penguinboy | no | 04:57 |
| liz4rd | what happend to cd-r's? | 04:57 |
| penguinboy | a cd in the DVD Drive | 04:57 |
| liz4rd | oh | 04:57 |
| liz4rd | .... | 04:57 |
| monchy | microhaxo: read this; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32495 | 04:57 |
| liz4rd | whast it saying? | 04:57 |
| Consty | liz4rd: was the username password created during installation automatically added to sudoers? | 04:57 |
| microhaxo | k thanks | 04:57 |
| penguinboy | either or it wont boot | 04:57 |
| liz4rd | Consty: yes | 04:57 |
| liz4rd | check bios | 04:57 |
| penguinboy | how? | 04:57 |
| liz4rd | ... you dont know how to get into your bios? | 04:57 |
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| microhaxo | so does kubuntu already have these drivers installeD? | 04:57 |
| microhaxo | Ati drivers i mean. | 04:58 |
| liz4rd | sirukin: hey man! | 04:58 |
| penguinboy | no I don;t...dont make fun of m | 04:58 |
| penguinboy | e | 04:58 |
| sbcl3 | e? | 04:58 |
| liz4rd | i'm not.... | 04:58 |
| penguinboy | lol | 04:58 |
| sbcl3 | oh | 04:58 |
| penguinboy | so.... | 04:58 |
| liz4rd | what make is your lappy again? | 04:58 |
| penguinboy | IBM Thinkpad R40 | 04:58 |
| liz4rd | like dell, compaq | 04:58 |
| liz4rd | ... | 04:58 |
| liz4rd | try pressing F10 or the Del key when your boothing up | 04:59 |
| liz4rd | or F1 | 04:59 |
| liz4rd | till you get in ther | 04:59 |
| liz4rd | there | 04:59 |
| sirukin | hey liz | 04:59 |
| sirukin | what's up? | 04:59 |
| penguinboy | f1 | 04:59 |
| liz4rd | nm helping people :) | 04:59 |
| penguinboy | BIOS Version 1.10 | 04:59 |
| liz4rd | then itsd F1 | 04:59 |
| liz4rd | yaya | 04:59 |
| liz4rd | ok | 04:59 |
| microhaxo | Does Kubuntu 5.04 have the latest ATI drivers installed? if so where can i check to see what drivers im usin / me is NEWBIE 100% | 04:59 |
| liz4rd | find something that lets you configure the boot order | 04:59 |
| liz4rd | of your disks liek the HD and cdrom and what not | 05:00 |
| liz4rd | tell it to boot the dvd drive first then the hd then maybe the floppy if any | 05:00 |
| liz4rd | microhaxo: lol nvidia loves linux bro | 05:00 |
| liz4rd | not ati | 05:00 |
| liz4rd | :D | 05:00 |
| microhaxo | well i love my X800 xt pe | 05:01 |
| monchy | ati will get it together eventually | 05:01 |
| liz4rd | do you hug it often | 05:01 |
| penguinboy | I have the follwoing options: Config, Date/Time, Security, Startup, and Restart | 05:01 |
| microhaxo | if it wouldnt shock me i would | 05:01 |
| monchy | the graphical installer was a good step taken | 05:01 |
| liz4rd | lol | 05:01 |
| liz4rd | penguinboy:try startup | 05:01 |
| liz4rd | tell me whats in there | 05:01 |
| microhaxo | lol, i just want the latest drivers runnin, is there some 3rd party tweaked ati drivers, i know for windows there are omegadrivers.. | 05:01 |
| penguinboy | boot and network | 05:01 |
| sirukin | mmm | 05:01 |
| sirukin | I"m out | 05:01 |
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| liz4rd | boot | 05:02 |
| monchy | yay | 05:02 |
| liz4rd | what? | 05:02 |
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| monchy | maybe he'll fall off the face of the planet | 05:02 |
| liz4rd | so no one wants to hook a loonix g33k up with some webhosting? | 05:02 |
| liz4rd | lol | 05:02 |
| monchy | and somehow end up on uranus | 05:02 |
| liz4rd | of course.. cuz thats the most likly place :P | 05:02 |
| penguinboy | ITS BOOTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 05:03 |
| microhaxo | Anywho, i love this linux so far, but i want to have it configured, i have windows on my main HD so i will be using that also but i want this to have all the features so i dont have to go to windows.. | 05:03 |
| penguinboy | its loading the kernel!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 | 05:03 |
| liz4rd | penguinboy: OMG I'M GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 05:03 |
| microhaxo | so, does this release kubuntu 5.04 have the latest ati drivers? | 05:03 |
| penguinboy | yes you are | 05:03 |
| liz4rd | :P i'm helping someone install slackware in #kubuntu :D | 05:04 |
| monchy | in short, no microhaxo, you have to download and install them yourself | 05:04 |
| juliagouser | anyone know how to change date and time? i try to enter my password but nothing happens from then on | 05:04 |
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| microhaxo | thanks | 05:04 |
| penguinboy | you may now login as root....slackware login:????? | 05:05 |
| liz4rd | type setup | 05:05 |
| penguinboy | do i type root | 05:05 |
| liz4rd | yewah | 05:05 |
| liz4rd | root | 05:05 |
| liz4rd | sorry | 05:05 |
| liz4rd | :P | 05:05 |
| penguinboy | i typed setup | 05:06 |
| liz4rd | then setup | 05:06 |
| microhaxo | lol guys, i get this error | 05:06 |
| microhaxo | the file blah atidriver8.14.run is a binary saving will result in it being corrupt? | 05:06 |
| penguinboy | do I partition? | 05:06 |
| liz4rd | yes | 05:07 |
| microhaxo | so will it corrupt it or do i just save it? | 05:07 |
| liz4rd | creata swap twice the size of your ram | 05:07 |
| penguinboy | with cfdisk or fdisk | 05:07 |
| liz4rd | and the rest for your / | 05:07 |
| liz4rd | cfdisk is my fav | 05:07 |
| liz4rd | so | 05:07 |
| liz4rd | cfdisk /dev/hda | 05:07 |
| liz4rd | or w/e your is called | 05:07 |
| microhaxo | does kubuntu support RTM's? | 05:07 |
| penguinboy | it is primary? | 05:07 |
| liz4rd | yea | 05:07 |
| liz4rd | make sure it says swap after it | 05:08 |
| juliagouser | anyone know how to change date and time from kde? i try to enter my password @ prompt but nothing happens from there | 05:08 |
| liz4rd | you got to change the type | 05:08 |
| penguinboy | to? | 05:08 |
| liz4rd | i think 82 is swap and 83 is ext3 | 05:08 |
| liz4rd | or 2 w/e is it | 05:08 |
| penguinboy | I have oen big primary linux partition at the moment...now what | 05:08 |
| microhaxo | eh, guys what do i open an rpm with? | 05:09 |
| liz4rd | ok make a new one | 05:09 |
| penguinboy | just click on it | 05:09 |
| liz4rd | i guess | 05:09 |
| microhaxo | it says open with | 05:09 |
| penguinboy | do I make the big one bootable? | 05:09 |
| sbcl3 | hey sweet...i think the servers are no longer down | 05:09 |
| sbcl3 | i was able to install abiword | 05:09 |
| liz4rd | make sure you sewt the size to only 1 GB | 05:09 |
| sbcl3 | perhaps the others will work | 05:09 |
| liz4rd | yes | 05:10 |
| liz4rd | hey | 05:10 |
| penguinboy | it does not give me an option to create more | 05:10 |
| penguinboy | sould i delete this one and then create two more | 05:10 |
| penguinboy | one for / and one for swap? | 05:10 |
| liz4rd | yeah | 05:11 |
| liz4rd | but swap has to be first | 05:11 |
| liz4rd | so its faster if its at the beggining of your drive | 05:11 |
| penguinboy | how large | 05:11 |
| liz4rd | 1 gb | 05:11 |
| liz4rd | since you have 512 ram | 05:11 |
| penguinboy | is swap primary or logical | 05:11 |
| liz4rd | primary | 05:11 |
| penguinboy | do I make swap bootable? | 05:12 |
| liz4rd | ok after there should be something that says like for you to change the type of one you want | 05:12 |
| liz4rd | then it will display a list | 05:12 |
| liz4rd | yeah | 05:12 |
| liz4rd | how the F do you download the scripts from hotscripts.com? :P | 05:13 |
| penguinboy | okay..I have....hda1...primary...Linux Swap...1 GB and then Pri/Log...Free Space....26 Gig | 05:13 |
| sbcl3 | quick question: what does "held packages" mean in kynaptic? | 05:13 |
| sbcl3 | and for that matter, how do i just install them? | 05:14 |
| liz4rd | penguinboy: eek!!! delete all of them untill you have one and i shall tell you what to do | 05:14 |
| penguinboy | sbc...change to Synaptic....kynaptic is skrewy | 05:14 |
| penguinboy | okay....I now have one pri/log...free space partition with 36 gig | 05:14 |
| liz4rd | ok | 05:15 |
| liz4rd | now | 05:15 |
| liz4rd | create a new one | 05:15 |
| penguinboy | si | 05:15 |
| liz4rd | make it 1 gig | 05:15 |
| penguinboy | primary or logical | 05:15 |
| liz4rd | primary | 05:15 |
| liz4rd | not bootable | 05:15 |
| penguinboy | beginning or end | 05:15 |
| liz4rd | beggining | 05:15 |
| penguinboy | k | 05:15 |
| liz4rd | ok then go to type or someting | 05:16 |
| penguinboy | k | 05:16 |
| penguinboy | make swap? | 05:16 |
| liz4rd | yeah | 05:16 |
| penguinboy | k | 05:16 |
| penguinboy | now | 05:16 |
| liz4rd | ok now | 05:17 |
| liz4rd | for the rest of the space highlight it and create a new one | 05:17 |
| liz4rd | use the rest of that space | 05:17 |
| liz4rd | primary or w/e | 05:17 |
| liz4rd | bootable | 05:17 |
| penguinboy | primary or logical | 05:17 |
| liz4rd | primary | 05:17 |
| liz4rd | :P | 05:17 |
| penguinboy | do I let it use all space left? | 05:17 |
| liz4rd | yes | 05:18 |
| penguinboy | and bootable? | 05:18 |
| sbcl3 | deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary main restricted <--- is something wrong with this line in sources.list? | 05:18 |
| liz4rd | yes | 05:18 |
| sbcl3 | or is the server just down still? | 05:18 |
| penguinboy | k | 05:18 |
| penguinboy | done | 05:18 |
| liz4rd | sbcl3: respatories are down | 05:18 |
| penguinboy | now write? | 05:18 |
| liz4rd | yes | 05:18 |
| penguinboy | now quit? | 05:19 |
| liz4rd | yes | 05:19 |
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| penguinboy | now do I reboot? | 05:20 |
| liz4rd | yeah | 05:20 |
| _nate__ | could anyone help me with configuring vsftpd? I have a few questions about users | 05:20 |
| penguinboy | will it boot back off of cd? | 05:20 |
| penguinboy | yes | 05:20 |
| liz4rd | yes | 05:20 |
| penguinboy | booting | 05:21 |
| liz4rd | :) | 05:21 |
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| penguinboy | now do I type setup? | 05:21 |
| _nate__ | does vsftpd only allow for local logins (using /etc/passwd) and anonymous logins? Or can I add virtual users for only the ftpd? | 05:21 |
| penguinboy | do I need to activate pcmcia devices, activate network devices, or start the main installation??? | 05:23 |
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| homedad_ | hi there | 05:23 |
| penguinboy | hey | 05:23 |
| penguinboy | liz4rd? | 05:24 |
| homedad_ | how do i get a copy of kubuntu | 05:24 |
| liz4rd | oops sorry | 05:24 |
| N17R0 | download it | 05:24 |
| liz4rd | yeah | 05:24 |
| penguinboy | download the iso from linuxiso.org | 05:24 |
| homedad_ | or ubuntu | 05:24 |
| penguinboy | do I need to activate pcmcia devices, activate network devices, or start the main installation??? | 05:24 |
| liz4rd | yes | 05:24 |
| penguinboy | which...there are 3 options LOL | 05:24 |
| liz4rd | make sure you do a full install wehn promted | 05:24 |
| homedad_ | i dont have a cd burner | 05:25 |
| liz4rd | oooooh | 05:25 |
| kalenedrael | ok, i can't seem to configure xfce properly | 05:25 |
| liz4rd | no you done have to | 05:25 |
| penguinboy | lol | 05:25 |
| liz4rd | kalenedrael: whast wrong...? | 05:25 |
| penguinboy | homeded go to ubuntulinux.org and reqest a CD | 05:25 |
| homedad_ | i registered for a free disc but it never came | 05:25 |
| liz4rd | same | 05:25 |
| N17R0 | lol | 05:25 |
| homedad_ | that was weeks ago | 05:26 |
| penguinboy | now I am on the Slack Linux Setup menu...I can Help, Keymap, Addswap, Target, Souurce, Select, Install, Configure, Exit | 05:26 |
| kalenedrael | liz4rd: i think i already said | 05:26 |
| penguinboy | homedad it takes some time...I think it comes from South Africa or someplace | 05:27 |
| homedad_ | im using mepis right now but not entirely happy with it | 05:27 |
| kalenedrael | no clear menubars, and i can't get the taskbar to be part of the panel | 05:27 |
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| homedad_ | i wonder if im going to have problems with the soundcard on ubuntu as well | 05:28 |
| penguinboy | do I set up my target partitions? Slect source media? Select categories of software to install? Install selcted software? or reconfigure my Linux system? | 05:28 |
| penguinboy | liz??? | 05:29 |
| homedad_ | i have that weird neo magic 256 card | 05:29 |
| kalenedrael | penguinboy, calm down a bit | 05:29 |
| penguinboy | lol | 05:29 |
| kalenedrael | you are trying to install slackware? | 05:29 |
| penguinboy | yes | 05:29 |
| liz4rd | um | 05:29 |
| liz4rd | i dont know | 05:29 |
| kalenedrael | ok, well, you want to set up the partitions, i bet | 05:29 |
| liz4rd | lol i'm not staring at the screen | 05:29 |
| kalenedrael | neither am i | 05:30 |
| liz4rd | he already did | 05:30 |
| kalenedrael | oh | 05:30 |
| liz4rd | i helped him :) | 05:30 |
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| microhaxo | ok guys, i have installed the ati drivers, however how can i check if its using them? | 05:30 |
| penguinboy | never mind...I will go with my gut instincts | 05:30 |
| liz4rd | ok :P | 05:31 |
| monchy | microhaxo: go into konsole and type glxgears | 05:31 |
| microhaxo | k | 05:32 |
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| microhaxo | ahh how long does this run | 05:33 |
| microhaxo | ylol | 05:33 |
| penguinboy | i am now formatting | 05:33 |
| monchy | is your fps low? | 05:33 |
| liz4rd | yay! | 05:33 |
| microhaxo | 144 168 | 05:33 |
| monchy | 144,168? or just 144 lol | 05:34 |
| microhaxo | just 144 | 05:34 |
| microhaxo | and 168 | 05:34 |
| monchy | ok you can close it | 05:34 |
| microhaxo | so am i runnin ati drivers ? lol | 05:34 |
| monchy | not yet; http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=206829&postcount=87 | 05:34 |
| monchy | after you do all that it should be fine | 05:34 |
| microhaxo | aww | 05:34 |
| microhaxo | k | 05:34 |
| monchy | oh and to find out what kernel your running, uname -a in konsole | 05:35 |
| microhaxo | err | 05:35 |
| microhaxo | im using kubuntu 5.04 64 bit | 05:35 |
| === microhaxo a newb and i get this error when i try to cd | ||
| microhaxo | bash: cd: /lib/modules/fglrx: No such file or directory | 05:36 |
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| monchy | alright i can't figure this wallpaper crap out | 05:37 |
| penguinboy | i installation underway | 05:38 |
| seth_k | glxinfo | grep direct | 05:38 |
| seth_k | eh, wrong channel | 05:38 |
| seth_k | sorry | 05:38 |
| liz4rd | cool | 05:38 |
| penguinboy | thanks to you my friend | 05:38 |
| microhaxo | yo | 05:38 |
| microhaxo | i get this error | 05:39 |
| liz4rd | :) | 05:39 |
| microhaxo | bash: cd: /lib/modules/fglrx: No such file or directory | 05:39 |
| liz4rd | penguinboy: you got msn or ayhoo or aim or jabber or SOMETHING | 05:39 |
| penguinboy | mmmm | 05:40 |
| liz4rd | mmmm? tha tan IM program? :P jk | 05:40 |
| penguinboy | AIM...PenguinBoy42544 | 05:41 |
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| penguinboy | wb monchy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 05:41 |
| monchy | alright back to kde lol | 05:41 |
| liz4rd | lol | 05:42 |
| liz4rd | wtf wehen i top Xorg is taking all my CPU | 05:42 |
| liz4rd | wtf | 05:42 |
| monchy | xfce is nice, but i can't stare at that fricken cube anymore | 05:42 |
| liz4rd | lol | 05:42 |
| liz4rd | its easy to change | 05:42 |
| monchy | i beg to differ | 05:43 |
| liz4rd | need help? | 05:43 |
| monchy | installing the ati drivers was easier lol | 05:43 |
| liz4rd | lol | 05:43 |
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| liz4rd | brb | 05:43 |
| liz4rd | everyone | 05:43 |
| microhaxo | i just installed ATI drivers, it says REBOOT the system is recommended after running fglrxconfig | 05:44 |
| monchy | if it says reboot, then you should reboot :p | 05:45 |
| microhaxo | sudo: fglrxconfig: command not found | 05:45 |
| microhaxo | but it says i should run this command | 05:45 |
| microhaxo | but its not there? | 05:45 |
| monchy | sounds like nothing installed when you ran the ati installer oO | 05:46 |
| microhaxo | err | 05:46 |
| microhaxo | how | 05:46 |
| microhaxo | i see the ati linux logo | 05:46 |
| monchy | weird, maybe ask the folks in #ubuntu | 05:46 |
| microhaxo | ? | 05:47 |
| microhaxo | lol | 05:47 |
| monchy | kubuntu is pretty much the same so i don't see why not | 05:47 |
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| monchy | wb | 05:47 |
| liz4rd | ty | 05:48 |
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| liz4rd | o wherrrre or wherrrree has my little penquinboy gone? ooo where or where can he be.....? | 05:49 |
| liz4rd | ^_^ | 05:49 |
| monchy | penguin has left this server. remote closed the connection | 05:50 |
| liz4rd | dammit!!!! what a cunt | 05:50 |
| liz4rd | oops i mean | 05:50 |
| liz4rd | nice lil person | 05:50 |
| monchy | lol | 05:50 |
| monchy | trouble in paradise ;) | 05:50 |
| liz4rd | lol | 05:50 |
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| microhaxo | Guys, im tryin to install ati drivers with these guide : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32495&highlight=ati+drivers | 06:06 |
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| microhaxo | im on step 3 | 06:06 |
| microhaxo | and that isnt a command? | 06:06 |
| microhaxo | sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 06:06 |
| monchy | be back, going to try something | 06:06 |
| liz4rd | step 1) instert nvidia card ^_^ | 06:06 |
| microhaxo | yea right | 06:07 |
| liz4rd | lol ATI wont get there shit together | 06:07 |
| microhaxo | i dont care, this is a problem with the os, i cannot use the command sudo gedit | 06:07 |
| microhaxo | this command i cannot do, so i cannot get past this.. | 06:07 |
| microhaxo | sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 06:07 |
| liz4rd | use pico | 06:07 |
| liz4rd | sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 06:08 |
| liz4rd | wait no | 06:08 |
| liz4rd | dont do that | 06:08 |
| liz4rd | or | 06:08 |
| microhaxo | lol | 06:08 |
| liz4rd | well yeah | 06:08 |
| liz4rd | no dont | 06:08 |
| microhaxo | wtf | 06:08 |
| microhaxo | ! | 06:08 |
| liz4rd | iwas thinkgin of xorgconfig | 06:08 |
| liz4rd | :P | 06:08 |
| microhaxo | what other command can i do to replace that? | 06:08 |
| liz4rd | no nothing | 06:08 |
| liz4rd | sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 06:09 |
| seth_k | nano > pico | 06:09 |
| seth_k | :P | 06:09 |
| liz4rd | same shit isnt it | 06:10 |
| liz4rd | ? | 06:10 |
| seth_k | yeah, they're very similar. | 06:10 |
| liz4rd | yeah thought so | 06:10 |
| _nate__ | does anyone know if vsftpd from the repos has PAM support enabled? | 06:10 |
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| monchy | hah tsunami watch for vancouver island | 06:10 |
| monchy | only 3 1/2 hours away from here | 06:11 |
| microhaxo | i dont get this.. | 06:11 |
| microhaxo | it shows | 06:11 |
| microhaxo | Section "Device" | 06:11 |
| microhaxo | Identifier "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon X800 (R420 JK)" | 06:11 |
| _nate__ | so. anyone know? or know how to figure it out? | 06:11 |
| microhaxo | but i only get 144 fps on the gear deal | 06:11 |
| liz4rd | are you upset? | 06:12 |
| monchy | ok liz, you said you know how to get wallpapers to work in xfce? | 06:12 |
| liz4rd | yeah... do you even know how to change them? | 06:12 |
| liz4rd | :P | 06:12 |
| monchy | no, it's not easy like kde lol | 06:13 |
| liz4rd | ok click the settings button on your panel | 06:13 |
| _nate__ | monchy, mine only worked if i didn't use kde utilities, weird huh? | 06:13 |
| liz4rd | the tools icon or w/e | 06:13 |
| monchy | that is weird nate | 06:13 |
| liz4rd | that might do it | 06:13 |
| monchy | ok i'm @ settings | 06:13 |
| liz4rd | _nate__ is an xfce user aswell? | 06:13 |
| liz4rd | ok click desktop | 06:13 |
| liz4rd | :) | 06:14 |
| liz4rd | do you see it? | 06:14 |
| microhaxo | how do i save that config | 06:14 |
| monchy | is it just the part where it says "show image" | 06:14 |
| liz4rd | ctrl x | 06:14 |
| liz4rd | then y for yes | 06:14 |
| liz4rd | then enter | 06:14 |
| liz4rd | BAM saved | 06:14 |
| _nate__ | I used to be one, but realized that gnome is fine for me | 06:14 |
| liz4rd | lol ewi | 06:14 |
| microhaxo | alright ill reboot now | 06:15 |
| liz4rd | monchy: under that it should say file with a place to select it | 06:15 |
| monchy | yeah, show image then i can browse for a replacement | 06:15 |
| monchy | that's it eh | 06:16 |
| liz4rd | yeah | 06:16 |
| liz4rd | :P | 06:16 |
| monchy | cool, thanks :) | 06:16 |
| monchy | i don't have to see the ugly cube anymore | 06:17 |
| liz4rd | yup | 06:17 |
| liz4rd | got jabber monchy? | 06:17 |
| monchy | wonder if that tsunami will hit | 06:17 |
| liz4rd | you live in canada? | 06:17 |
| monchy | yes | 06:17 |
| liz4rd | OMG SO DO I | 06:17 |
| liz4rd | :P | 06:17 |
| monchy | lol | 06:17 |
| liz4rd | in sask | 06:17 |
| monchy | british columbia, few hours away from van | 06:18 |
| === sproingie lives in san francisco | ||
| monchy | tsunami warning has me spooked | 06:18 |
| sproingie | thankfully on the 28th floor of my building on the EAST side of the city | 06:18 |
| liz4rd | that would suck if it happend | 06:18 |
| monchy | what if it's a big one @_@ | 06:18 |
| monchy | it could be like the day after tomorrow | 06:19 |
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| liz4rd | AAHHHH i keep doing stupid shit to freeze my self | 06:24 |
| _nate__ | i found xfce was sorta freezy for me, but not at first | 06:25 |
| _nate__ | at first it was smokin fast | 06:25 |
| liz4rd | yeah it still is but i was runnign ALOT of stuff :P | 06:25 |
| monchy | c'mon news people now is not the time to be off air! | 06:26 |
| sbcl3 | anyone know a _working_ repository where i can get koffice 1.4? | 06:26 |
| _nate__ | i only use vi | 06:27 |
| _nate__ | forget my instructors and their lame whining about "formats" | 06:27 |
| _nate__ | j/k ;P | 06:27 |
| monchy | oh good tsnami alert lifted | 06:32 |
| liz4rd | thast good | 06:32 |
| monchy | was a 7.0 magnitude quake that struck | 06:33 |
| monchy | oh liz4rd i only have msn and aim in my kopete | 06:34 |
| _nate__ | oh man i need to go to sleep | 06:35 |
| _nate__ | gnite everyone! :) | 06:35 |
| sbcl3 | is openoffice.org _supposed_ to look really bad in kde? | 06:35 |
| sbcl3 | it looks like someone tried to make a qt port for it but stopped half way through... | 06:36 |
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| liz4rd | ok i got the file upload script to work :D | 06:42 |
| liz4rd | i want to see your screenshots everyone | 06:42 |
| liz4rd | http://irclikelife.com/liz4rd/upload/ | 06:42 |
| liz4rd | username: public password: user | 06:42 |
| monchy | will these go on your site? | 06:42 |
| liz4rd | nah just for our provet use | 06:42 |
| liz4rd | or do you want them to | 06:42 |
| liz4rd | :P | 06:42 |
| liz4rd | provate* | 06:43 |
| liz4rd | private* | 06:43 |
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| monchy | well as long as we'd be posting screenshots lol | 06:43 |
| monchy | may as well use it to add activity to your forum :p | 06:43 |
| liz4rd | lol i only let it so you could only upload image files | 06:43 |
| liz4rd | nah this is hosted elsware | 06:43 |
| liz4rd | are you gonna upload one? :D i should aswell | 06:44 |
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| monchy | yeah uno momento | 06:44 |
| liz4rd | what :P? | 06:45 |
| monchy | 1 second lol | 06:45 |
| liz4rd | oh | 06:45 |
| liz4rd | :P | 06:45 |
| monchy | just trying to locate the take screenshot thing in xfce | 06:46 |
| liz4rd | lol | 06:46 |
| liz4rd | just run ksnapshot | 06:47 |
| monchy | i'm too used to gnome >< | 06:47 |
| liz4rd | lol | 06:47 |
| liz4rd | it's alright | 06:47 |
| monchy | anyway to make the stuff i download to /desktop actually show up on the desktop lol | 06:48 |
| liz4rd | xfce uses no icons | 06:49 |
| liz4rd | um see your bottum panel? | 06:49 |
| monchy | yea | 06:49 |
| liz4rd | right click on the file manager one | 06:49 |
| liz4rd | go properties | 06:49 |
| monchy | k | 06:49 |
| liz4rd | change the command to xffm | 06:49 |
| liz4rd | then close | 06:49 |
| liz4rd | then click it normally | 06:50 |
| monchy | done | 06:50 |
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| monchy | groovy | 06:50 |
| liz4rd | when you upload | 06:50 |
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| liz4rd | make sure to save the rename the file to monchy_whateverhere | 06:51 |
| liz4rd | .png or jpg or giff or bmp | 06:51 |
| liz4rd | gif* | 06:51 |
| monchy | now you tell me lol | 06:51 |
| liz4rd | lol sorry | 06:52 |
| liz4rd | dont worry about it | 06:52 |
| monchy | it's snapshot1.png | 06:52 |
| Bachus9000 | Anyone here familiar with acpi on laptops? | 06:52 |
| kalenedrael | i'm making a theme for xfce | 06:52 |
| kalenedrael | what specifically, Bachus9000? | 06:52 |
| liz4rd | SWEET | 06:52 |
| kalenedrael | er, i'm modifying a theme | 06:53 |
| kalenedrael | it looked nice but i wanted it flatter | 06:53 |
| liz4rd | lol | 06:53 |
| kalenedrael | i'm not a fan of shadows and things that look really 3D on the desktop | 06:53 |
| liz4rd | monchy check there agian see what my screen looks like :D | 06:53 |
| liz4rd | kalenedrael: upload your screen man :) | 06:54 |
| kalenedrael | one sec | 06:54 |
| liz4rd | http://irclikelife.com/liz4rd/upload/ | 06:54 |
| kalenedrael | let me finish this | 06:54 |
| monchy | nice, i see you like dave lanhams stuff too | 06:54 |
| liz4rd | username: public password: user | 06:54 |
| liz4rd | yeah he's my hero | 06:54 |
| monchy | somatic should be ported over | 06:54 |
| liz4rd | i know | 06:54 |
| liz4rd | i love that icon set | 06:54 |
| monchy | theme,icons the works | 06:54 |
| liz4rd | yeah | 06:54 |
| liz4rd | he's a great artist | 06:55 |
| liz4rd | and i like that style of didgital art | 06:55 |
| === liz4rd is a digital artist | ||
| === sbcl3 is now known as sbcl3||-_-zZz | ||
| liz4rd | http://evasivx.bioviral.net :D | 06:55 |
| monchy | how'd you minimize the top taskbar like that | 06:55 |
| kalenedrael | a screenshot from kde: http://www.kc0udt.com/kal/images/Temp/black-white-background.png | 06:55 |
| kalenedrael | oh, that's from fedora core 3 | 06:55 |
| kalenedrael | how gay... let me find a newer one | 06:55 |
| liz4rd | nah upload them to mine | 06:56 |
| liz4rd | so everyone can see | 06:56 |
| liz4rd | name it kalenedrael_screenshot.png for example | 06:56 |
| liz4rd | so we know whos it is | 06:56 |
| Bachus9000 | Well, I'm trying to get various acpi related things working on my laptop (Presario 2199US). The laptop has a "fn" key which does a couple things. 1) you can hold it down and use the right side of the keyboard as a number pad and 2) fn+f1 and fn+f2 dims and brightens the screen. Use 1 works fine but use 2 does not. I find this weird as this has worked without trouble in several distributions I've tried recently including Debian. : | 06:57 |
| Bachus9000 | ntu, but the response time is antagonizingly slow in those cases. | 06:57 |
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| kalenedrael | uploaded | 06:59 |
| kalenedrael | that's KDE 3.4 on kubuntu | 06:59 |
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| Bachus9000 | I'm also having "fun" problems with sleep and hibernation, but I'll worry about those in a bit. | 06:59 |
| kalenedrael | with an eterm open and one of about 20 random background | 07:00 |
| kalenedrael | s | 07:00 |
| kalenedrael | Bachus9000, don't even try suspend/resume | 07:00 |
| liz4rd | sweet | 07:00 |
| monchy | how did you get your taskbar so small liz4rd? | 07:00 |
| liz4rd | how do you get the term completely transparent? | 07:00 |
| kalenedrael | -0 -x | 07:00 |
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| kalenedrael | and a bunch of other options | 07:01 |
| liz4rd | monchy: member the settings button? | 07:01 |
| kalenedrael | let's see | 07:01 |
| liz4rd | click it | 07:01 |
| Bachus9000 | kalenedrael: I've actually almost got hibernation working...so long as I stay at the console. | 07:01 |
| monchy | k | 07:01 |
| liz4rd | then go to xfce panel | 07:01 |
| monchy | k | 07:01 |
| kalenedrael | -0 -x --buttonbar=no --scrollbar=no --font-fx none -g 135x52+700+0 -f white | 07:02 |
| liz4rd | cool i use aterm and i use: | 07:02 |
| kalenedrael | the full command is "Eterm -0 -x --buttonbar=no --scrollbar=no --font-fx none -g 135x52+700+0 -f white" | 07:02 |
| liz4rd | aterm -tr -tint white -sh 40 -fg green +sb -fb monospace | 07:02 |
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| newb | hi guys, i got a problem with the sound set up. when i run the live disk the sound works. When i installed kubuntu it didn't auto-detect. can anyone suggest how i might save the sound settings to disk to transfer to the installed os? | 07:04 |
| liz4rd | ok | 07:05 |
| liz4rd | what sound card you got? | 07:05 |
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| newb | i dunno, just about to ring the pc company i bought it from | 07:05 |
| liz4rd | should | 07:06 |
| liz4rd | you always need to know that | 07:06 |
| liz4rd | monchy: you have a messed up resalution :P | 07:07 |
| newb | k, its an ac97 intergrated realtech | 07:07 |
| monchy | 1152 | 07:07 |
| liz4rd | newb: o god | 07:07 |
| monchy | any higher and i have to settle for 60hz, hurts my eyes | 07:07 |
| liz4rd | um..... | 07:07 |
| newb | ah :( | 07:07 |
| Octane | anyone recommend a good sql browser | 07:07 |
| Octane | mysql browser that is | 07:07 |
| liz4rd | i dont notice anything and i'm on 60 hz | 07:07 |
| newb | i installed kubuntu last week and it worked :S | 07:08 |
| liz4rd | yeah... | 07:08 |
| liz4rd | um | 07:08 |
| liz4rd | try this | 07:08 |
| liz4rd | sudo modprobe snd_ac97 | 07:08 |
| liz4rd | tell me if you hear sound when you play something | 07:08 |
| liz4rd | or if you get any errrors | 07:08 |
| newb | k, im running live now so ill have to go back to the hd os. | 07:09 |
| liz4rd | ... | 07:09 |
| liz4rd | how dare you | 07:09 |
| liz4rd | :P jk | 07:09 |
| newb | anothr little problem im having is that when im in "dos" i cant get to the gui | 07:09 |
| liz4rd | dos | 07:09 |
| liz4rd | LMFAO | 07:09 |
| liz4rd | type startx | 07:09 |
| newb | im too retarded to even boot up the thing up | 07:09 |
| newb | ah, thanks liz4rd | 07:09 |
| liz4rd | np | 07:09 |
| newb | brb :D | 07:10 |
| liz4rd | ok | 07:10 |
| liz4rd | silly lil newbs | 07:10 |
| liz4rd | :P | 07:10 |
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| kalenedrael | :P | 07:10 |
| liz4rd | omg i'm more n00bish tho should here me in here some times " OMG HOW DO I DO THIS"!@!!!! | 07:10 |
| monchy | yeah it's anything below 72hz that's bad for your eyes and will make your eyes tired fast (had to look that up :p) | 07:10 |
| kalenedrael | bullshit | 07:10 |
| liz4rd | never new that | 07:10 |
| kalenedrael | actually, that's for CRTs | 07:11 |
| kalenedrael | on LCDs the image persists longer and 60Hz is fine | 07:11 |
| liz4rd | i'm on a big white thing | 07:11 |
| kalenedrael | that's probably a CRT, then | 07:11 |
| liz4rd | XD | 07:11 |
| monchy | lol | 07:11 |
| liz4rd | yeah | 07:11 |
| liz4rd | w/e i dont mide i run it on 1280x1024 cuz i like the resalution :P | 07:12 |
| liz4rd | OMG...where is everyone | 07:12 |
| liz4rd | i want more screenshots | 07:12 |
| liz4rd | :P | 07:12 |
| monchy | i'll just wait till the LCD's drop in price and then get a 19 inch | 07:12 |
| liz4rd | yeah good idea | 07:13 |
| monchy | you know how expensive computer parts are here lol | 07:13 |
| liz4rd | brb i changed the transparency for my terms | 07:13 |
| Bachus9000 | So no one has any ideas about my fn-key woes? | 07:13 |
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| liz4rd | no i dont how much? | 07:14 |
| monchy | a puny 15 inch LCD is 400 bucks + tax | 07:15 |
| liz4rd | :O | 07:15 |
| liz4rd | that sucks man | 07:15 |
| monchy | yeah, go canada lol :( | 07:16 |
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| liz4rd | :P | 07:16 |
| liz4rd | what are some fun things to do in your term? | 07:16 |
| monchy | my term? oO | 07:17 |
| liz4rd | no i mean period | 07:17 |
| liz4rd | cause i'm bored out of my skull | 07:17 |
| monchy | if your old enough go to a bar | 07:17 |
| liz4rd | in my term? | 07:18 |
| liz4rd | :P | 07:18 |
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| monchy | no, just saying, if your bored, go to a bar | 07:18 |
| monchy | have some suicide hot wings w/ whisky sauce | 07:18 |
| monchy | & you won't be bored anymore | 07:18 |
| liz4rd | tuerten: I CAMAND YOU TO UPLOAD YOUR SCREENSHOT TO http://irclikelife.com/liz4rd/upload/ username: public password: user | 07:18 |
| liz4rd | command* | 07:19 |
| liz4rd | ma bad | 07:19 |
| monchy | mm just thinkin about those wings makes me hungry | 07:19 |
| liz4rd | i should get a short url or something | 07:19 |
| liz4rd | lol | 07:19 |
| tuerten | mmm, its the newb back. i fixed my broken screen, and tried the sudo modprobe you told me | 07:19 |
| liz4rd | and? | 07:19 |
| tuerten | reply was FATAL: Module snd ac97 not found | 07:20 |
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| liz4rd | fuck nuts | 07:20 |
| liz4rd | what was the ther part to your card? | 07:20 |
| liz4rd | realtek | 07:20 |
| liz4rd | or something | 07:20 |
| liz4rd | how do you spell it? | 07:20 |
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| tuerten | yeah, realtek. its the brand | 07:21 |
| liz4rd | ds9bsd: I COMMAND YOU TO UPLOAD YOUR SCREENSHOT TO http://irclikelife.com/liz4rd/upload/ username: public password: user | 07:21 |
| liz4rd | try sudo modprobe snd_realtek | 07:21 |
| liz4rd | rideout: I COMMAND YOU TO UPLOAD YOUR SCREENSHOT TO http://irclikelife.com/liz4rd/upload/ username: public password: user ^_^ | 07:22 |
| monchy | lol | 07:22 |
| liz4rd | lol had to add the ^_^ | 07:22 |
| liz4rd | i'm just gonna be a penis and do this to everone who comes in here when i'm around :P | 07:22 |
| monchy | do it in #ubuntu ... if you dare! ;p | 07:23 |
| liz4rd | oh will i!!! | 07:23 |
| tuerten | yeah, same thing but no realtek module | 07:23 |
| liz4rd | dam | 07:24 |
| tuerten | mmm | 07:24 |
| monchy | you updated to 4.2.2 btw? | 07:24 |
| tuerten | me? | 07:24 |
| monchy | sorry, liz4rd | 07:24 |
| rideout | liz4rd: mine's up | 07:25 |
| liz4rd | ok | 07:25 |
| rideout | wait, no it isn't | 07:25 |
| liz4rd | lol | 07:25 |
| liz4rd | tell me when | 07:25 |
| rideout | done | 07:26 |
| rideout | boring, no? | 07:26 |
| liz4rd | you have...A BIG MOTHER FUCKING DESKTOP MAN | 07:27 |
| monchy | yeah no shit lol | 07:27 |
| rideout | 1920x1280 | 07:28 |
| monchy | crikey | 07:28 |
| rideout | laptop though, so I have to make all the fonts really big to read anything, but dvds look great | 07:28 |
| liz4rd | i bet | 07:30 |
| liz4rd | #debian people are assholes | 07:30 |
| monchy | really, i would've pegged the gentoo people to be the jerky ones | 07:31 |
| monchy | ok brb | 07:31 |
| liz4rd | no one was an ass | 07:31 |
| liz4rd | another said ok | 07:32 |
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| liz4rd | hey micro | 07:32 |
| microhaxo | yo, whats the DEFAULT password for the ROOT shell? | 07:32 |
| microhaxo | this is pizzorin me off | 07:32 |
| liz4rd | lol | 07:32 |
| liz4rd | your username password ^_^ | 07:32 |
| tuerten | sorry, liz4rd, any further ideas onthe sound card? | 07:32 |
| microhaxo | it doesnt work | 07:32 |
| microhaxo | i have installed these ati drivers and it made kde not run, the xorg config was FUBAR so i had to reinstall | 07:33 |
| microhaxo | lol | 07:33 |
| liz4rd | sorry try googling....? | 07:33 |
| rideout | microhaxo: try $ sudo su | 07:33 |
| liz4rd | no | 07:33 |
| tuerten | mmm, sorry | 07:33 |
| liz4rd | sudo -s | 07:33 |
| rideout | then $ passwd | 07:33 |
| liz4rd | its sudo -s (then your username passwd) | 07:33 |
| microhaxo | it already says root | 07:33 |
| microhaxo | lol | 07:33 |
| liz4rd | but i wouldnt unlock the root account | 07:33 |
| microhaxo | dont need to enter password | 07:33 |
| microhaxo | I need to in order to isntall these DAMN drivers | 07:34 |
| microhaxo | unless someone wanna one on one tell me exactly how to do so. | 07:34 |
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| monchy | k that didn't work lol | 07:35 |
| liz4rd | microhaxo: sudo -s (then your username passwor) | 07:35 |
| liz4rd | that should get you into your root | 07:35 |
| liz4rd | then run the commands from there | 07:35 |
| liz4rd | monchy: what are you playing around with? | 07:35 |
| monchy | updating to xfce 4.2.2 | 07:35 |
| rideout | microhaxo: what kernel are you running if you are using a kernel from main then the linux-restricted-modules-flavor should have the fglrx modules all set to go | 07:36 |
| microhaxo | im usin amd64 kernel | 07:36 |
| rideout | 2.6.? | 07:36 |
| microhaxo | yea | 07:36 |
| microhaxo | newest release | 07:36 |
| microhaxo | 5.04.2 | 07:36 |
| liz4rd | monchy: i think your already current | 07:37 |
| microhaxo | ok, so im followin this guide, but with updated driver rpm, i have converted it already to deb but i cant to this sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite | 07:37 |
| monchy | oh, were the 4.2.2 fixes backported? | 07:37 |
| microhaxo | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22496&highlight=ati+drivers | 07:37 |
| liz4rd | eh? | 07:37 |
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| rideout | microhaxo: http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html | 07:39 |
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| liz4rd | wtf is with eveyone using Konversation? | 07:41 |
| liz4rd | :P | 07:41 |
| closure | liz4rd, i don't know anybody using it | 07:42 |
| monchy | lol i like it | 07:42 |
| closure | -closure- VERSION xchat 2.4.3 Linux 2.6.10-5-386 [i686/448.20MHz] | 07:43 |
| monchy | whats your beef with konversation liz :p | 07:43 |
| liz4rd | nothing | 07:43 |
| liz4rd | just alot of people are using it | 07:43 |
| liz4rd | and its fugly | 07:43 |
| liz4rd | why not xchat or irssi or even BitchX? | 07:43 |
| liz4rd | :P | 07:43 |
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| liz4rd | those are teh l337 | 07:43 |
| monchy | they all do the same thing | 07:44 |
| liz4rd | I COMMAND ikypakis TO UPLOAD YOUR SCREENSHOTS TO http://irclikelife.com/liz4rd/upload/ username: public password: user ^_^ | 07:44 |
| microhaxo | $hit! | 07:48 |
| liz4rd | monchy: what do you type to upgrade to 4.2.2? | 07:48 |
| liz4rd | what now microhaxo ? | 07:48 |
| monchy | you have to add debian repositories | 07:48 |
| microhaxo | i just went through the CONFIG deal fglrxconfig | 07:49 |
| microhaxo | and did all that | 07:49 |
| microhaxo | but now | 07:49 |
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| monchy | but they are safe for ubuntu, it's been tested | 07:49 |
| microhaxo | xorg.conf is BLANK and it says NEW | 07:49 |
| microhaxo | so if i reboot im FUBAR | 07:49 |
| microhaxo | right?! | 07:49 |
| liz4rd | XD | 07:49 |
| liz4rd | yup | 07:49 |
| microhaxo | ... | 07:49 |
| microhaxo | how the hell do i fix this | 07:49 |
| liz4rd | uh.... | 07:49 |
| liz4rd | google ^_^ | 07:50 |
| microhaxo | beh.. | 07:50 |
| liz4rd | i alwasy use google whne i have no answer to a question | 07:50 |
| liz4rd | :P | 07:50 |
| monchy | ok brb just want to see if it updated correctly | 07:50 |
| microhaxo | i needs help | 07:50 |
| microhaxo | lol | 07:50 |
| liz4rd | what if i give you mine? | 07:50 |
| microhaxo | sure? | 07:50 |
| liz4rd | and just change the part about the nvidia stuff | 07:50 |
| microhaxo | will it auto detect | 07:50 |
| microhaxo | and change it? | 07:50 |
| liz4rd | no | 07:50 |
| liz4rd | or wait i know | 07:51 |
| microhaxo | :D | 07:51 |
| liz4rd | ctrl + alt + F1 or F2 and type xorgconfig | 07:51 |
| liz4rd | then restart | 07:51 |
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| liz4rd | hi jql | 07:51 |
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| liz4rd | where the hell is monchy :( | 07:58 |
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| liz4rd | OMG | 08:02 |
| liz4rd | I MISSED YOU | 08:02 |
| liz4rd | NEVER DO THIS TO ME AGIAN | 08:02 |
| liz4rd | ^_^ | 08:02 |
| monchy | penguin came back? | 08:02 |
| liz4rd | wtf? | 08:03 |
| liz4rd | no you | 08:03 |
| liz4rd | silly | 08:03 |
| monchy | oh lol | 08:03 |
| liz4rd | jeeze | 08:03 |
| liz4rd | so? | 08:03 |
| liz4rd | did it update | 08:03 |
| monchy | well, everything seemed to go fine, but it didnt change to 4.2.2 | 08:03 |
| liz4rd | why | 08:03 |
| monchy | i have no idea, i did the upgrade, it downloaded and installed perfectly | 08:04 |
| liz4rd | can you tell me the debian respo and where to instert it? | 08:04 |
| kakalto | how can I format a hdd fat32? | 08:05 |
| monchy | liz4rd: http://www.os-works.com/view/debian/ | 08:05 |
| monchy | you'll have to authenticate the repositories, so go here after. http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptAuthenticationInstructionsForHoary | 08:06 |
| monchy | the key you need is: 0x8AC2C0A6 | 08:06 |
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| Ghetek | i have to input 5 passwords when the computer starts and that includes kde wallet... something is wrong here | 08:08 |
| liz4rd | lol | 08:09 |
| Ghetek | seriously! i have to input for kopete aim, kopete msn, kopete irc, gmail checker, kdewallet... | 08:10 |
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| monchy | yeah the wallet sucks for stuff like that | 08:10 |
| liz4rd | thats savage :P | 08:10 |
| monchy | just don't use it i say lol | 08:10 |
| Ghetek | sigh | 08:10 |
| rideout | kakalto: mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/hdxx | 08:10 |
| liz4rd | brb gonna go update to xfce4.2.2 | 08:11 |
| rideout | you might want to screw around with fdisk or parted first (sounds fun AND dangerous) | 08:11 |
| monchy | good luck liz | 08:12 |
| Ghetek | yeah good luck | 08:12 |
| kakalto | rideout, thanks :)) | 08:12 |
| kakalto | rideout, don't worry, it's a seperate disk | 08:13 |
| === Ghetek finally got around to fixing the firefox update problem | ||
| rideout | kakalto: your welcome | 08:14 |
| kakalto | yay! | 08:14 |
| kakalto | I just need to transfer this disk to my proper compy | 08:14 |
| kakalto | then I have an extra 76GB of space | 08:14 |
| kakalto | yay! | 08:15 |
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| liz4rd | xfce4 is already the newest version. | 08:17 |
| liz4rd | WTF | 08:17 |
| monchy | oO | 08:17 |
| liz4rd | now what | 08:19 |
| monchy | i'm checking the backport forums to see if it was requested or done | 08:19 |
| rideout | Ghetek: I am just now firguring out my approach to stomp this bug https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92845 | 08:19 |
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| liz4rd | ok | 08:19 |
| microhaxo | ok... | 08:19 |
| microhaxo | installed | 08:19 |
| liz4rd | what is | 08:20 |
| microhaxo | i have an ATI controle panel deal but when i select it i it dont load | 08:20 |
| liz4rd | lol | 08:20 |
| microhaxo | how do i save xorg.conf file in the shell again ? | 08:20 |
| liz4rd | using pico? | 08:21 |
| rideout | liz4rd: do you use /etc/apt/preferences ? | 08:21 |
| microhaxo | yea | 08:21 |
| liz4rd | ctrl x then y for yes then enter | 08:21 |
| rideout | control-x to exit nano/pico and y to say yes | 08:21 |
| rideout | for save | 08:21 |
| microhaxo | k | 08:21 |
| microhaxo | aight i edited it | 08:22 |
| microhaxo | img onna reboot | 08:22 |
| liz4rd | k | 08:22 |
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| microhaxo | aight | 08:24 |
| microhaxo | i did everything | 08:24 |
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| liz4rd | cool? | 08:24 |
| liz4rd | yay monchy!!! | 08:24 |
| microhaxo | i have an ati control pannel, but when i select it it loads for ever and it doesnt pop up. | 08:24 |
| microhaxo | whats the command to run that gears program to see my ftps? | 08:25 |
| monchy | aha | 08:25 |
| monchy | ok, go into (k)synaptic liz4rd | 08:26 |
| monchy | search for xfld-desktop | 08:26 |
| monchy | current version should be 4.2.1.1-2 and should be upgradable | 08:26 |
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| rideout | microhaxo: fgl_glxgears, but try fglrxinfo first to see if you are actually using the driver | 08:27 |
| liz4rd | both those arnt found... | 08:27 |
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| monchy | wha | 08:27 |
| liz4rd | yeah i know | 08:27 |
| monchy | what about searching for xfce | 08:27 |
| microhaxo | wtf guys, im only getting like 144 fps in glxgears.. | 08:27 |
| monchy | micro get used to ati drivers being this difficult lol | 08:29 |
| rideout | microhaxo: what do you get for dmesg | grep mtrr | 08:29 |
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| kakalto | here goes... | 08:30 |
| kakalto | wish luck, guys | 08:30 |
| liz4rd | luck | 08:30 |
| kakalto | grr.. | 08:31 |
| kakalto | case won't even come off | 08:31 |
| microhaxo | this is CRAP! fglrxinfo mesa! | 08:31 |
| rideout | microhaxo: what is the output of $cat /proc/mtrr | 08:32 |
| liz4rd | brb gonna go see if xfce works | 08:33 |
| microhaxo | rideout how the hell do i get the output of that? | 08:34 |
| microhaxo | im new | 08:34 |
| microhaxo | brand new | 08:34 |
| rideout | microhaxo: ok, open konsole to get the cli | 08:34 |
| rideout | then cut and paste the following "cat /proc/mtrr" | 08:35 |
| kakalto | is there any problems with making a cd drive a slave to a hdd? | 08:35 |
| rideout | cat just outputs the text of a file | 08:35 |
| kakalto | it's been a while since I messed with this stuff | 08:35 |
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| liz4rd | meh fuck it | 08:36 |
| liz4rd | the current xfce is fine | 08:36 |
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| liz4rd | hey | 08:36 |
| liz4rd | so? | 08:36 |
| liz4rd | i tryed | 08:36 |
| rideout | microhaxo: i'm guessing you have one of the most common problems with ati binary drivers, discussed here http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=33736241 | 08:36 |
| liz4rd | said it installed | 08:36 |
| liz4rd | but no version change | 08:36 |
| monchy | still says 4.2.1-1 but according to (k)synaptic i'm already updated lol | 08:37 |
| liz4rd | yeah :P | 08:37 |
| monchy | so i guess were updated and that just never changed oO | 08:37 |
| liz4rd | lol yeah | 08:37 |
| liz4rd | sudo xfce4-panel --version | 08:38 |
| liz4rd | thast still fucked | 08:38 |
| rideout | microhaxo: basicaly ubuntu is reserving the video ram of your card for the framebuffer (the screen when you boot up) and it set it to use less memory than your card | 08:38 |
| rideout | mine was set to 16 mb for a 128mb card | 08:38 |
| rideout | liz4rd: how is xfce4 (the old version anyway ;) I was thinking of putting it on an old thinkbook I just got. That or fluxbox | 08:40 |
| liz4rd | its sweet | 08:40 |
| liz4rd | runs really fast | 08:40 |
| monchy | nice and fast | 08:40 |
| monchy | what he said | 08:40 |
| liz4rd | :P | 08:40 |
| monchy | and the rodent is fun to look at | 08:41 |
| liz4rd | lol yeah | 08:41 |
| rideout | mice are tasty creatures | 08:41 |
| monchy | ew | 08:41 |
| liz4rd | ewie | 08:41 |
| rideout | oh, come on, your handle is lizard for zeus sake | 08:42 |
| liz4rd | monchy...use any IM clients? | 08:43 |
| liz4rd | lol mice are diff | 08:43 |
| monchy | kopete | 08:43 |
| monchy | yes i know it sucks | 08:43 |
| microhaxo | guys | 08:43 |
| microhaxo | when i ctrl alt F2 out how can i come back? | 08:43 |
| liz4rd | oops i ment do you use like msn or jabber and what not | 08:44 |
| monchy | oh, yeah i use msn & aim on it | 08:44 |
| liz4rd | microhaxo: startx... i think | 08:44 |
| microhaxo | it says session already blah | 08:44 |
| rideout | no | 08:44 |
| liz4rd | can i have your msn? | 08:44 |
| rideout | alt fx-6 or something | 08:44 |
| microhaxo | fx? | 08:44 |
| microhaxo | oh | 08:44 |
| microhaxo | yea | 08:44 |
| microhaxo | l | 08:44 |
| liz4rd | wtf | 08:44 |
| microhaxo | k | 08:44 |
| monchy | there, in pm | 08:44 |
| rideout | try the alt-F6 or alt-F7 | 08:45 |
| rideout | it switches between all the ttys fore each f-key | 08:45 |
| rideout | in x though you need to control-alt | 08:49 |
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| microhaxo | wth | 08:51 |
| microhaxo | my printer will print a TEST PAGE | 08:51 |
| microhaxo | but wont print anything else | 08:51 |
| microhaxo | lol | 08:51 |
| transgress | oh where is he? someone's gonna pay | 08:51 |
| liz4rd | LMFAO | 08:51 |
| transgress | who's messing with my man? | 08:51 |
| liz4rd | sleeping :( | 08:51 |
| liz4rd | dont hurt him | 08:51 |
| monchy | lol | 08:52 |
| transgress | sleeping... that's the best time... that scream of surprise., | 08:52 |
| liz4rd | i swear it'll be over tomorrow | 08:52 |
| transgress | first my girlfriend... now you too! that's it. | 08:52 |
| === transgress grabs the AK | ||
| microhaxo | damn i swear, linux is HARD... | 08:52 |
| transgress | linux is hard? you should try finding someone who doesn't cheat! | 08:52 |
| transgress | that's hard. | 08:53 |
| liz4rd | omg no you didnt | 08:53 |
| transgress | anyway... off to hurt and maul someone. | 08:53 |
| liz4rd | :( ok | 08:53 |
| monchy | kiss and make up | 08:53 |
| transgress | microhaxo: let me get you a link to some good startup tutorials | 08:53 |
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| === liz4rd tackels transgress | ||
| mrmanic | I cheat | 08:54 |
| mrmanic | I cheat at pretty much every game I play | 08:54 |
| liz4rd | :O oh no you didnt | 08:54 |
| mrmanic | I cheated at half life 2 | 08:54 |
| monchy | :o | 08:54 |
| monchy | that's blasphemy | 08:54 |
| transgress | microhaxo: http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Teaching/Unix/ and http://www.sloppycode.net/nix/ | 08:54 |
| liz4rd | #kubuntu...whereall the saps come to confess | 08:54 |
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| rideout | I did it, *sob*, and I am sooo sorry... | 08:55 |
| liz4rd | LMFAO! | 08:55 |
| liz4rd | alright now everyone fess up | 08:55 |
| microhaxo | SAy guys | 08:55 |
| kakalto | uhmm... | 08:55 |
| liz4rd | guys | 08:55 |
| microhaxo | my xorg.conf is saved at my home, could this be why my ati drivers ant workin? lol | 08:55 |
| liz4rd | OMG I'M TEH L337!! | 08:55 |
| tuerten | where would i find modules.conf? | 08:55 |
| microhaxo | should i move it to etc and shiz? | 08:55 |
| liz4rd | tuerten: | 08:56 |
| liz4rd | i'll help you out | 08:56 |
| rideout | microhaxo: YES! | 08:56 |
| rideout | at /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 08:56 |
| microhaxo | hhahaha | 08:56 |
| microhaxo | im slow | 08:56 |
| microhaxo | k | 08:56 |
| liz4rd | tuerten: /etc/modules | 08:56 |
| microhaxo | ill move it there | 08:56 |
| liz4rd | modules is a file | 08:57 |
| microhaxo | err | 08:57 |
| microhaxo | i cant go there | 08:57 |
| microhaxo | file://etc/x11 | 08:57 |
| tuerten | ta | 08:58 |
| liz4rd | ? | 08:58 |
| rideout | microhaxo: at the command prompt $sudo mv /home/user/xorg.conf /etc/X11/. | 08:58 |
| microhaxo | woa woah | 08:58 |
| microhaxo | its there | 08:58 |
| microhaxo | but when i go to edit it in shelll | 08:59 |
| liz4rd | lmao | 08:59 |
| microhaxo | it says new | 08:59 |
| microhaxo | and its blank | 08:59 |
| rideout | you need root permissions | 08:59 |
| tuerten | the file /etc/modues.conf says it is a new file? | 08:59 |
| rideout | to edit | 08:59 |
| liz4rd | no no no | 08:59 |
| liz4rd | tuerten: just /etc/modules | 08:59 |
| liz4rd | its a file | 08:59 |
| rideout | tuerten: debian based systems don't use modules.conf | 08:59 |
| microhaxo | Ok, this is whats FUBAR, mk.. i have viewed this xorg.conf, and it has ALL MY ATI stuff, however i still am gettin shitty ass stuff in the xgears deal | 08:59 |
| tuerten | k cool, thanks | 08:59 |
| rideout | microhaxo: you need to restart the x server | 09:00 |
| liz4rd | OMG DAY CHANGED | 09:00 |
| kakalto | hehe | 09:00 |
| transgress | two hours ago | 09:00 |
| transgress | loony | 09:00 |
| kakalto | 19 hours ago | 09:00 |
| transgress | can't tell time | 09:00 |
| kakalto | :PP | 09:00 |
| liz4rd | well this server is on a diff time | 09:00 |
| rideout | tuerten: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/modules.html | 09:00 |
| transgress | i don't believe you | 09:01 |
| liz4rd | its cuz i cheated isnt it | 09:01 |
| rideout | CHEATER!!! | 09:01 |
| === liz4rd puts head down in shame | ||
| liz4rd | lol i bet penquinboy would be freaked out not knowing whast going on :P | 09:01 |
| rideout | hey, now I get to show my great weakness, How do you do actions in IRC some /command ? | 09:02 |
| microhaxo | Why the hell wont my printer print out a web page? | 09:03 |
| buz | does it print other things? | 09:03 |
| kakalto | can I use a wary livecd to install grub to the MBR? | 09:03 |
| kakalto | oh nvm | 09:03 |
| kakalto | BBL | 09:04 |
| liz4rd | rideout: /me whatever text here | 09:04 |
| transgress | oh don't you mention his name to me | 09:04 |
| === rideout awakes to new world of fun | ||
| rideout | awesome | 09:04 |
| transgress | there will be no penquinboy soon | 09:04 |
| liz4rd | yeah ,man | 09:04 |
| liz4rd | welcome | 09:04 |
| === transgress is brandishing an ax | ||
| liz4rd | transgress: OMG DONT | 09:04 |
| tuerten | the next step says to "turn on sound support", is that necessary? | 09:05 |
| transgress | YES | 09:05 |
| transgress | next step in what? | 09:05 |
| liz4rd | Transgress POOP William potter!!! you stop this instant | 09:05 |
| transgress | because i don't know what you're talking about | 09:05 |
| monchy | liz4rd tell him about the wedding you had planned | 09:05 |
| transgress | what is he talking about chris? | 09:05 |
| liz4rd | sshhh | 09:05 |
| transgress | tell me! | 09:05 |
| liz4rd | nooo | 09:05 |
| liz4rd | monchy: WHYYYYYY!!!! | 09:06 |
| monchy | ;p | 09:06 |
| liz4rd | lmfao @ Transgress POOP William potter | 09:06 |
| transgress | i don't get that ... umm i'm sorry | 09:06 |
| liz4rd | its your full name | 09:06 |
| liz4rd | you douce | 09:06 |
| liz4rd | douche* | 09:06 |
| tuerten | i'm installing sound drivers for a realtek sound card that wasn't auto-detectd | 09:06 |
| liz4rd | sweet | 09:06 |
| liz4rd | bout time eh | 09:07 |
| liz4rd | what did you put in modules | 09:07 |
| liz4rd | ? | 09:07 |
| liz4rd | i had to put snd_sb16 for my sound card | 09:07 |
| tuerten | haven't changed it yet, i think thats a few steps ahead | 09:07 |
| liz4rd | ok | 09:07 |
| transgress | i am not a feminine hygeine product | 09:07 |
| transgress | you watch your mouth | 09:07 |
| microhaxo | Ok here is the deal.. | 09:07 |
| microhaxo | i do this: | 09:07 |
| liz4rd | :O | 09:07 |
| liz4rd | :( monchy...i didnt wanty to say but..transgress beats me *crys* | 09:08 |
| transgress | it's cries! how many times do i have to tell you!? | 09:08 |
| monchy | maybe you deserve it :p | 09:08 |
| === transgress pulls off shoe and starts swinging | ||
| liz4rd | OMG dont do it :( | 09:08 |
| microhaxo | cd /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod then i do command sh make.sh | 09:08 |
| microhaxo | i get error with ati deal | 09:08 |
| transgress | microhaxo: you are trying to install a radeon card? | 09:09 |
| liz4rd | lol sorry got to go later guys | 09:09 |
| rideout | \me pours salt in liz4rd's wound | 09:09 |
| microhaxo | a driver | 09:09 |
| microhaxo | for it | 09:09 |
| microhaxo | yea | 09:09 |
| microhaxo | and its makin me mad | 09:09 |
| microhaxo | lol | 09:09 |
| tuerten | thanks lizard | 09:09 |
| liz4rd | np man | 09:09 |
| transgress | dude why don't you just pull it from apt? | 09:09 |
| liz4rd | NIGHT EVERYONE | 09:09 |
| microhaxo | i have no idea how to do so :| | 09:09 |
| microhaxo | can yo walk meh through | 09:09 |
| transgress | microhaxo: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto | 09:09 |
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| === liz4rd|Transgres is now known as liz4rd|cheese | ||
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| microhaxo | err | 09:11 |
| microhaxo | Errors were encountered while processing: | 09:11 |
| microhaxo | /var/cache/apt/archives/xorg-driver-fglrx_6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu11_amd64.deb | 09:11 |
| microhaxo | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) | 09:11 |
| microhaxo | ? | 09:11 |
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| kakalto | yay | 09:12 |
| microhaxo | brb | 09:13 |
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| === liz4rd|lime is now known as liz4rd|kiwi | ||
| === liz4rd|kiwi is now known as liz4rd|zZz | ||
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| microhaxo | eh | 09:15 |
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| microhaxo | whats the command to view what gfx driver im usin | 09:16 |
| kakalto | I have an extra 76GB :D | 09:16 |
| transgress | microhaxo: glxinfo | 09:17 |
| transgress | microhaxo: or if you installed fglrx then try fglrxinfo | 09:17 |
| kakalto | and in the next few days, I'll likely get more and more | 09:17 |
| microhaxo | wtf | 09:17 |
| microhaxo | fglrxinfo: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory | 09:17 |
| transgress | did you follow the instructions on the page i sent you to? | 09:20 |
| transgress | -all- of the instructions | 09:20 |
| microhaxo | Yes | 09:21 |
| microhaxo | all of em | 09:21 |
| microhaxo | lol | 09:21 |
| microhaxo | i get an error | 09:21 |
| microhaxo | when trying to install | 09:21 |
| microhaxo | want it? | 09:21 |
| transgress | when you try apt-get install xorg-fglrx or whatever it's called? | 09:21 |
| microhaxo | yea | 09:22 |
| microhaxo | rrors were encountered while processing: | 09:22 |
| microhaxo | /var/cache/apt/archives/xorg-driver-fglrx_6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu11_amd64.deb | 09:22 |
| microhaxo | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) | 09:22 |
| transgress | hmm | 09:22 |
| transgress | got me beat on that one | 09:22 |
| transgress | i don't have a clue | 09:22 |
| microhaxo | :| | 09:22 |
| transgress | and i'ma go take a shower | 09:22 |
| microhaxo | not kew; | 09:22 |
| transgress | sorry | 09:22 |
| microhaxo | lol | 09:22 |
| transgress | ask in #ubuntu | 09:22 |
| transgress | more people in there and probably someone who might can help | 09:23 |
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| tuerten | heh. gotta a silly question | 09:37 |
| tuerten | kynaptic has three buttons. refresh. upgrade all packages. no.3 commit changes | 09:38 |
| tuerten | when i click 'commit changes' there is no button to make the changes. | 09:38 |
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| tuerten | ah, sorry there is no problem. im just retarded. sorry | 09:41 |
| transgress | well okay then | 09:41 |
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| tuerten | its just the button wasn't in the window when it was small. when i made the window bigger i saw the button. | 09:42 |
| tuerten | :S | 09:42 |
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| tuerten | thanks for all your help guys :D have a good one, bye | 09:45 |
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| microhaxo | lol guys, NEED MAJOR HELP with these ati drivers, apparently i have no kernel header fileS? | 10:44 |
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| ukato | what would be the easiest way to get everything from GNOME off my box? | 10:50 |
| microhaxo | Someone please tell me how to install my ATI drivers | 10:52 |
| _doneill | is there a right-hand-dvorak layout immediately installable? | 10:56 |
| _doneill | all i can use is dvorak, and it doesn't seem to have a 'right' in the variants list | 10:56 |
| _doneill | (or left, for that matter) | 10:56 |
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| microhaxo | Guys i needs help | 10:58 |
| microhaxo | #ubuntu | 10:58 |
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| _doneill | okay | 11:17 |
| _doneill | i just mapped it myself :/ | 11:17 |
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| microhaxo | #ubuntu | 11:20 |
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| hussam | I've been building firefox from cvs on aviary branch. Other than compiler cpu optimizations such as -O2, are there any performace patches to make firefox faster on linux? It seems a bit faster on windows than on linux. | 12:52 |
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| Heart| | hi | 02:38 |
| Heart| | wie startet man den konqueror aus einem root-terminal aber "(nicht mit sudo!!!)"? | 02:38 |
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| da_bon_bon | hi all | 02:55 |
| da_bon_bon | anyone here ? | 02:55 |
| Tm_T | nope | 02:56 |
| da_bon_bon | Tm_T: lol | 02:56 |
| Heart| | oh english channel i forget... my question was: how can i start konqueror from a root-terminal ("not with sudo!!!)? | 02:57 |
| da_bon_bon | actually, i wanted to say, anyone from india here ? | 02:57 |
| da_bon_bon | Heart|: konqueror | 02:57 |
| Heart| | ? | 02:57 |
| Heart| | only "konqueror" gives me not root rights!?! | 02:59 |
| da_bon_bon | yes | 02:59 |
| da_bon_bon | if started from root term | 02:59 |
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| Heart| | yes, but how to come in a root-terminal in kubuntu? | 03:04 |
| Heart| | su dont works | 03:04 |
| Heart| | sudo su and then konq. or what to do? | 03:04 |
| DeadStar | if you want to enable root.. type sudo passwd root | 03:05 |
| Heart| | ok and then i can use su | 03:06 |
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| DeadStar | yep | 03:06 |
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| Heart| | one problem i have with kubuntu is that xorg have 20-25% cpu load <-- that's too much i think...normally it should be sth. like 0-2%, shouldn't it? | 03:08 |
| DeadStar | hmm.. mine is smt 2%..or less | 03:14 |
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| plastbanan | Hi. I am using kubuntu on my laptop (Acer 4502WLMI) and I got a problem that my harddrive seem to spin down all the time. So when an application starts reading the drive is like a 2 sec startup.. I tried setting the hdparm but it does not work.. any sugestions? | 03:46 |
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| _kaz | is there an icon or something that pops up to alert the user of pending updates like in ubuntu? | 04:23 |
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| _sbcl3 | can i get 00o 2 from a repository? | 04:24 |
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| _sbcl3 | yay; i can | 04:25 |
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| _sbcl3 | how do i make an iso image with k3b? | 04:34 |
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| ilba7r | i have a problem with kpdf. when i read files with kghostview i can see it but with kpdf i do not see anything just empty pages | 04:46 |
| insanekane | ilba7r: asre u viewing a pdf or a ps file ? | 04:49 |
| ilba7r | 04:50 | |
| ilba7r | produced by cups-pdf | 04:50 |
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| LuNaTiK^GuY | hey ppl, i just installed kubunutu...and after it configures my system and updates etc etc....it gets to a black/white screen with a moveable cursor and stays there | 04:53 |
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| LuNaTiK^GuY | any help? | 04:55 |
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| LuNaTiK^GuY | hello??! | 05:04 |
| Tm_T | hm | 05:04 |
| Tm_T | looks like it doesn't start your DM | 05:05 |
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| LuNaTiK^GuY | what can i do? | 05:06 |
| Tm_T | good question | 05:06 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | :) | 05:07 |
| Tm_T | check if there's KDM installed | 05:07 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | erm.....wait....i'm a total newbie | 05:07 |
| Tm_T | press ctrl-alt-F2 | 05:07 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | i know KDM is a desktop manager ok | 05:07 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | yes i did access the console | 05:07 |
| Tm_T | ok | 05:07 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | (tried to) | 05:07 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | it didnt get to the console | 05:07 |
| Tm_T | then try this: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop | 05:07 |
| Tm_T | " | 05:07 |
| Tm_T | ah? | 05:08 |
| Tm_T | is it ppc? | 05:08 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | no | 05:08 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | intel | 05:08 |
| Tm_T | ok | 05:08 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | when i tried ctrl+alt+f2, f3, f4 | 05:08 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | nutting happened | 05:08 |
| Tm_T | so you can't get access to console? | 05:08 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | no | 05:09 |
| Tm_T | great... | 05:09 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | :) | 05:09 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | i was expecting a nice blue (favourite colour) desktop :) | 05:09 |
| insanekane | what abt ctrl+alt+f1 ? | 05:09 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | nuttin | 05:09 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | ;) | 05:09 |
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| insanekane | also, u can shut down the X server using ctrl+alt+bksp | 05:09 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | neither | 05:10 |
| plastbanan | have you checked that grub or lilo is setup ok? | 05:10 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | yes | 05:10 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | i actually used grub to boot to kubuntu | 05:10 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | coz i'm dualbooting | 05:10 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | it works fine | 05:10 |
| plastbanan | but does it boot kubuntu ok? | 05:11 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | yes.....i get these fast moving messages....then the screen changes vga mode...it gets to a grey/black screen...with the mouse showing and stops there | 05:11 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | i can still move the mouse though) | 05:12 |
| plastbanan | Is it the standard X environment? | 05:13 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | i should think so.....its what got installed off the cd | 05:13 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | i didnt touch anything yet | 05:13 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | but it looks like X yes | 05:14 |
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| plastbanan | check the settings for the x-server.. It seems to be something wrong there.. | 05:16 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | i cant | 05:16 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | i cant even get to the console | 05:16 |
| insanekane | well, if your keyboard works, then ctrl+alt+bksp should shut down the server and ctrl+alt+fx should switch to console | 05:16 |
| MoreFX | I had a similar problem | 05:16 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | and i wouldnt know wot to check eiether ;) | 05:16 |
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| LuNaTiK^GuY | i'm a beginner | 05:16 |
| MoreFX | it was the graphic driver of X | 05:16 |
| insanekane | there is only other method ... change the runlevel ... and setup X again from console | 05:16 |
| insanekane | LuNaTiK^GuY: when u get to grub ... move the correct line, press 'e' on the keyboard | 05:17 |
| MoreFX | you might want to change the driver in xorg.conf to "vesa" an try again | 05:17 |
| insanekane | LuNaTiK^GuY: go to the kernel line, and press 'e' again ... and at the end type init=3 ... press enter | 05:17 |
| insanekane | LuNaTiK^GuY: followed by 'b' ... this should take u into single-user mode in console and allow you to reconfigure the xserver | 05:18 |
| insanekane | LuNaTiK^GuY: to reconfigure the X Server, do this: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg | 05:18 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | ok....i should get to the console....... | 05:18 |
| insanekane | LuNaTiK^GuY: answer the questions ... and when u come back to console ... type startx to start the x server again ... if there are any problems, note the output and come back here | 05:18 |
| insanekane | LuNaTiK^GuY: in general, as MoreFX said, the 'vesa' driver should work | 05:19 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | lemme try the configuration | 05:20 |
| insanekane | LuNaTiK^GuY: so, note down the steps above, and try them | 05:20 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | yes i wrote them down | 05:20 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | 10ks alot | 05:20 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | lemme go try it out | 05:21 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | :) | 05:21 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | "I'll be back" | 05:21 |
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| LuNaTiK^GuY | hey ppl | 05:39 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | i managed to fix it ;) | 05:39 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | i'm on vesa now | 05:39 |
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| insanekane | LuNaTiK^GuY: so it worked ? | 05:42 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | yes | 05:43 |
| insanekane | LuNaTiK^GuY: did you have to anything else other than my instructions to make it work? | 05:43 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | no | 05:43 |
| insanekane | ok good | 05:43 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | it all went fine | 05:43 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | :) | 05:43 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | 10ks a lot | 05:43 |
| insanekane | np | 05:43 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | there's one thing i want to configure at first sight now.... | 05:43 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | the fonts are a bit large overall | 05:43 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | is there a way to reduce them in size? | 05:43 |
| insanekane | seems like we need some display testing mechanism to switch to vesa automatically or something | 05:43 |
| insanekane | LuNaTiK^GuY: yes Control Centre -> Appearance -> Fonts | 05:44 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | thanks | 05:44 |
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| insanekane | LuNaTiK^GuY: it is also quite possible that your resolution might be too low | 05:44 |
| insanekane | LuNaTiK^GuY: you can change than via the dpkg-reconfigure route | 05:44 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | 1024*768 | 05:44 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | for a 17 inch | 05:44 |
| insanekane | hmm thats seems to be ok | 05:44 |
| insanekane | so then change ur fonts | 05:44 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | i'm used to windows...so at first sight everything looked so large......but they're very clear too ;) | 05:45 |
| insanekane | ok | 05:45 |
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| spiral | hi | 05:58 |
| Mez | hi | 05:59 |
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| _sbcl3 | when i open kynaptic i get this error: | 06:10 |
| _sbcl3 | "Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)" | 06:10 |
| _sbcl3 | what's that mean? | 06:10 |
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| bhna | _sbcl3: have you synaptic or apt-get open? | 06:14 |
| mmport80 | hi all, i want to know how i can load the hci_hcd module with specific params at boot up? | 06:14 |
| mmport80 | ehci_hcd isn't in the /etc/modules file, so that's thrown me off a bit | 06:15 |
| _sbcl3 | bhna: ya. figured it out | 06:16 |
| bhna | _sbcl3: ok ;-) | 06:17 |
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| _root | where is the console in kubuntu...ie how do i start the console from the start menu? | 06:29 |
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| _sbcl3 | Konsole | 06:29 |
| insanekane | LuNaTiK^GuY: System -> Terminal Program (Konsole) | 06:29 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | wow | 06:29 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | i missed it | 06:30 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | :) | 06:30 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | sorry | 06:30 |
| _sbcl3 | are you logged in as root??? | 06:30 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | yes | 06:30 |
| bhna | LuNaTiK^GuY: very bad thing! | 06:30 |
| insanekane | thats a security issue for yourself, and in this interconnected world, others | 06:30 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | :( | 06:30 |
| insanekane | LuNaTiK^GuY: in kubuntu, the best way is ... login as the user (lunatik, say), and whenever u need root priveleges to execute something, use sudo | 06:31 |
| bhna | or kdesu | 06:31 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | oh ic | 06:31 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | now | 06:31 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | another issue | 06:31 |
| insanekane | LuNaTiK^GuY: in general, the applications/config modules that need root, usually ask for it (by excuting kdesu themselves) | 06:32 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | sound works well...coz i get all the kde sounds | 06:32 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | but | 06:32 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | althogh the cd seems to be playing...i dont get sound | 06:32 |
| insanekane | audiocd i think require something more ?? | 06:32 |
| insanekane | does it play on windows ? | 06:32 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | yes sure | 06:33 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | on the standard media player | 06:33 |
| insanekane | ok, did u check the mixer settings for the audio cd output ? | 06:33 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | i am in Kmix | 06:34 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | and thers isnt cd output | 06:34 |
| insanekane | LuNaTiK^GuY: well, there is some advanced settings and volume controls and things like that ... i dont have sound atm so i cant tell u exactly | 06:34 |
| Heart_ | if i upgraded kde to 3.4.1 with "deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary-updates main" in the sources.list... | 06:35 |
| Heart_ | do i have to leave this source in the sources.list? | 06:35 |
| insanekane | Heart_: well, its a good idea if you want to continue recieving updates i guess | 06:35 |
| insanekane | Heart_: but to be sure, u'd probably have to ask Riddell about that | 06:36 |
| Heart_ | riddell ? | 06:36 |
| insanekane | yes Riddel | 06:36 |
| insanekane | yes Riddell | 06:36 |
| insanekane | he is in this channel with the nickname "Riddell" | 06:36 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | i cant get sound from my cd :( | 06:37 |
| Heart_ | ah k so riddell, what do you think.... best choice i think is to leave it in the list and delete it when breezy comes out | 06:37 |
| insanekane | LuNaTiK^GuY: check more thoroughly in KMix | 06:37 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | lol | 06:38 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | O_O | 06:38 |
| insanekane | what ? did you find something ? | 06:38 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | i'm lookin | 06:38 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | logically....wots input and output for kmix? | 06:40 |
| Riddell | Heart_: yes, leave it there as long as you are on hoary and want kde 3.4.1 | 06:40 |
| insanekane | oh ... sorry ... you should be looking in cd inputs ;) | 06:40 |
| insanekane | hi Riddell | 06:40 |
| Riddell | hola | 06:41 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | ok i got cd...but i have two buttons...one is red, the other is green | 06:41 |
| insanekane | LuNaTiK^GuY: change the red to green | 06:43 |
| insanekane | and then try | 06:43 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | ...no i got two seperate buttons.....red and green....so i guess i keep the green on and put the red off? | 06:44 |
| insanekane | yes | 06:45 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | nothing | 06:45 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | :( | 06:45 |
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| _sbcl3 | in kynaptic, how do you get rid of those "held packages"? | 06:48 |
| _sbcl3 | i want to upgrade to ooo2 but i don't think they'll let me | 06:48 |
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| LuNaTiK^GuY | how can i access my win drive? | 06:50 |
| KaiL_hoary | _sbcl3: why not? | 06:51 |
| foodcoman | LuNaTiK^GuY: check out windows section of www.ubuntuguide.org. | 06:51 |
| _sbcl3 | it may have been a server problem; i'll find out in a minute | 06:52 |
| KaiL_hoary | see topic about server problems | 06:52 |
| foodcoman | Dont know what Im doin with apt-get! | 06:52 |
| foodcoman | Why wont these update? | 06:53 |
| foodcoman | libavcodeccvs libpostproc0 libxvidcore4 mplayer-386 | 06:53 |
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| LuNaTiK^GuY | i manage to mount my first windows partition hda1....but when i try to mount hda2 (a second windos partition) i get an error | 07:00 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o umask=0222 | 07:01 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | this works for my first | 07:01 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | changed to: mount /dev/hda2 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o umask=0222 | 07:01 |
| Tm_T | errr | 07:01 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | it wont work | 07:01 |
| Tm_T | hmm, does someone have dpi settings in xorg.conf? | 07:01 |
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| foodcoman | Is both partitions NTFS? | 07:04 |
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| LuNaTiK^GuY | yes | 07:04 |
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| foodcoman | Also you are trying to mount both to same dir | 07:04 |
| foodcoman | mak a windows2 or something | 07:04 |
| foodcoman | Change the second command to point to the second dir you make. | 07:04 |
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| LuNaTiK^GuY | ohhh ic | 07:05 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | windows2 ;) | 07:05 |
| foodcoman | You got it. | 07:05 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | ount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda2, | 07:06 |
| foodcoman | BTW, I suck compaired to most here! Keep that in mind when the tough questions come. | 07:06 |
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| LuNaTiK^GuY | missing codepage or other error | 07:06 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | (aren't you trying to mount an extended partition, | 07:06 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | instead of some logical partition inside?) | 07:06 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try | 07:06 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | dmesg | tail or so | 07:06 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | wrong fs type....and i'm sure its ntfs!! | 07:06 |
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| foodcoman | Hrmm | 07:08 |
| foodcoman | ls your /media dir to make sure you have the windows and windows2 dir. | 07:08 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | yes i have both | 07:08 |
| foodcoman | that is LS in lower case use a -L lower case for additional info. | 07:08 |
| foodcoman | mount /dev/hda2 /media/windows2/ -t ntfs -o umask=0222 | 07:09 |
| foodcoman | Now are you sure the system has it as hda2 for that second partition? | 07:09 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | yes it doesnt work | 07:09 |
| insanekane | LuNaTiK^GuY: sudo mount /dev/hda2 /media/windows2/ -t ntfs -o umask=0222 | 07:09 |
| insanekane | LuNaTiK^GuY: add a sudo just before it (unless ur already running in root) | 07:10 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | same error | 07:10 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | i am in root | 07:10 |
| insanekane | ok remove the -o thingy | 07:10 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | i removed it and i got a screen of text | 07:10 |
| insanekane | paste it in #flood | 07:11 |
| insanekane | sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda2 /media/windows2/ | 07:12 |
| insanekane | LuNaTiK^GuY: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda2 /media/windows2/ | 07:12 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | same error | 07:13 |
| insanekane | ok maybe u dont have the module for ntfs loaded ?? | 07:13 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | but i already mounted my first ntfs drive | 07:14 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | and it works fine | 07:14 |
| insanekane | wait ... what cmmand did u use for that ? | 07:14 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o umask=0222 | 07:14 |
| insanekane | ok . | 07:14 |
| insanekane | do this .. | 07:14 |
| insanekane | ls /media | 07:14 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | then i created another directory "windows2" | 07:14 |
| insanekane | tell me the o/p | 07:14 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | and did | 07:14 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | mount /dev/hda2 /media/windows2/ -t ntfs -o umask=0222 | 07:15 |
| insanekane | hmm ok | 07:15 |
| insanekane | keep -t ntfs before /dev.... | 07:15 |
| insanekane | and remove -o umask=0222 | 07:15 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | ie: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda2 /media/windows2/ | 07:16 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | ? | 07:16 |
| insanekane | yes | 07:16 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | same error | 07:16 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | wrong fs type | 07:16 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | :( | 07:16 |
| insanekane | ok | 07:16 |
| insanekane | do fdisk -l | 07:16 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | oh christtt | 07:16 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | wait | 07:17 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | the hda's arent in order | 07:17 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | !!!! | 07:17 |
| insanekane | eh ? | 07:17 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | its hda5!! | 07:17 |
| insanekane | oh right .. | 07:17 |
| insanekane | LuNaTiK^GuY: its always a good idea to do "fdisk -l" | 07:17 |
| insanekane | to check the partitions and partition types before mount | 07:17 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | i got the point now ;) | 07:17 |
| insanekane | anyway, dont worry, in the near future u wont have to do all this nonsense to mount a drive | 07:18 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | y not? | 07:18 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | mandrake has a nice automounting thingy....y dont u do it>? | 07:18 |
| insanekane | yes we are brining the same thing ... | 07:19 |
| insanekane | we are bringing | 07:19 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | good | 07:19 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | :) | 07:19 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | ok mp3's work fine | 07:19 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | :) | 07:20 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | cd is the only problem with sound now | 07:20 |
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| insanekane | ok ... u probably need to start using the bugzilla or something to report all this | 07:21 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | ? | 07:21 |
| insanekane | LuNaTiK^GuY: bugzilla is the method to resolve such issues, ie, audio cd not playing etc | 07:23 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | and how do i get to it? | 07:24 |
| insanekane | bugzilla.ubuntu.com i believe | 07:24 |
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| insanekane | of course it completely depends on ur perspective ... whether you believe kubuntu is a movement/community, or an operating system distro | 07:27 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | what do u mean? | 07:27 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | can i be honest.... | 07:27 |
| insanekane | well, if u consider it as a distro ... then it is enough to rant about it in here ;) | 07:27 |
| insanekane | yes u may | 07:27 |
| insanekane | as a matter of fact, so far, i have expected u to be honest ;) | 07:28 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | this isnt about kubuntu or ububntu...its about wot i've felt trying diverse distros | 07:28 |
| insanekane | ok ... | 07:28 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | i like linux...the gui's are cute...i personally like them alot....some applications are cute too | 07:28 |
| insanekane | but ? | 07:28 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | but there's this thing....coming from a windows world.... | 07:28 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | everything worked....every time | 07:29 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | while with every distro i tried....kmix worked fine in mandrake, but not in kubuntu......parittioning worked fine in ubuntu...but not in yoper | 07:29 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | that sort of thing | 07:29 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | a sort of weak point in every distro | 07:30 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | and i was thinking.....instead of spreading out even further....why doesn;t the linux community focus on giving fewer, yet better assembled distros? | 07:30 |
| insanekane | because thats the point | 07:30 |
| insanekane | what should a distro focus on ? | 07:31 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | i know it is...its open source | 07:31 |
| insanekane | and, for me, windows was not all that perfect as it seems ... | 07:31 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | but | 07:31 |
| insanekane | whether it is open source or not .. | 07:31 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | i know..it isnt perfect | 07:31 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | nothing is | 07:31 |
| insanekane | *what* should a distro focus on ? there a gazillion different things a distro must do | 07:31 |
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| LuNaTiK^GuY | ok.... | 07:32 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | what about...a fast, clean distro | 07:32 |
| insanekane | there should be applications, hardware support, eye-candy, overall usability, localization and handling cultural differences .. | 07:32 |
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| LuNaTiK^GuY | with a GUI and admin stuff | 07:32 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | and nothing else | 07:32 |
| insanekane | thats the problem, different people have different ideas about what consitutes an OS | 07:32 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | then let the user decide what to install and what to leave out | 07:32 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | but the base system should be rock solid | 07:33 |
| insanekane | LuNaTiK^GuY: thats another problem: most users wouldn't even know what to install :) | 07:33 |
| insanekane | again, u come to rock solid | 07:33 |
| insanekane | let me try to explain it in a different way | 07:33 |
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| LuNaTiK^GuY | i'm not arguing against kubuntu mind you... | 07:33 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | just sharing an idea | 07:34 |
| insanekane | sure, i didnt think so since you mentioned other distros :) | 07:34 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | yes its a general thing | 07:34 |
| insanekane | yes, it is indicative of a general feeling that linux newbies have | 07:34 |
| insanekane | the point is, the tools exist ... from gui and admin tools and what not ... atleast within kubuntu, (but also all other distros), now there is an integrative approach | 07:35 |
| insanekane | you could say a horizontal distro as opposed to vertical | 07:35 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | but....this feeling of "being lost" comes from even tiny stuff | 07:36 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | for example | 07:36 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | if i want a text editor in windows...its called notepad.....very simple | 07:36 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | if i want it in linux...there are many more | 07:37 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | Kate, Vim etc etc | 07:37 |
| _sbcl3 | does anyone know if kynaptic keeps an install log? | 07:37 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | but....why should those names be used? | 07:37 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | why not make it simple? | 07:37 |
| insanekane | LuNaTiK^GuY: hehe, that is something u will have to take up with Riddel :) he decides the basic configuration of the system | 07:38 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | a touch here and there....and it will all fare better | 07:38 |
| ilba7r | lunatik lol in window you have wordpad and notepad and if you did some work you will find that wordpad is much better but other wise having a variety is better do not you think so | 07:38 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | lol its not about kubuntu alone...its about every distro.... | 07:38 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | variety....is good....but there is tooo much!! | 07:39 |
| insanekane | LuNaTiK^GuY: but essentially, I have made the same specific suggestion ti Riddell ... about Kate/Kedit/Kwrite ie | 07:39 |
| insanekane | ti = to | 07:39 |
| Riddell | hmm? | 07:39 |
| ilba7r | you can pick up what you are familiar with lunatik | 07:40 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | hi Riddell :) lol | 07:40 |
| insanekane | LuNaTiK^GuY: the point I am trying to make is something different: if Kubuntu has to go anywhere, people like *you* need to be involved ... | 07:40 |
| ilba7r | every one is a accostemed to a program having more variaty is much better | 07:40 |
| Riddell | insanekane: you're trying to involve someone with a nickname LuNaTiK^GuY? :) | 07:40 |
| insanekane | LuNaTiK^GuY: and by "you" i dont mean people with specific qualities ... but *you* as an individual | 07:41 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | i cant be that involved...i dont know how to build a distro etc....but i can give u suggestions...for newbies..by a newbie :) | 07:41 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | having variety is better | 07:41 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | but there are different ways to present variety | 07:41 |
| insanekane | LuNaTiK^GuY: no ... suggestions are good, but you need to go all the way ... and spending 2 hours a week learning how to improve kubuntu will *not* be an exercise in theory but can provide practical results ... why dont u try it ? | 07:42 |
| insanekane | Riddell: :) | 07:42 |
| ilba7r | anyone know why while running ubuntu i run up into a problem that the pc is running like crazy (though am not openning too many programs) and the notebook just reboots? | 07:42 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | i am willing to keep on using kubuntu yes! | 07:42 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | for example...KDE and Gnome are totally 100% intuitive | 07:43 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | any windows user can get up and running with them | 07:43 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | even for the first time | 07:43 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | so thats perfect | 07:43 |
| insanekane | LuNaTiK^GuY: now, I am not a kubuntu developer, not associated with kubuntu developers etc, so my views are nothing official :) | 07:43 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | but why should a media player be named Amarok? | 07:44 |
| ilba7r | insane and lunatik lol your nick make me feel i am in mental house :) | 07:44 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | and not something like "Media Player" | 07:44 |
| insanekane | LuNaTiK^GuY: thats it ! you have understood a core concept :) ... KDE is perfect ... but not Kubuntu's implementation of an integrated, easily learnable desktop OS | 07:44 |
| ijuz_ | what's a "Media Player"? | 07:44 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | or "Linux Media Player" | 07:44 |
| Riddell | LuNaTiK^GuY: there is a description of every app in the k-menu | 07:45 |
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| insanekane | LuNaTiK^GuY: that can be changed, and in my derivative of Kubuntu, I use descriptive names, than program name in the K Menu :) | 07:45 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | yes Riddell i know.... | 07:45 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | it can be changed yes....buttt | 07:45 |
| Heart_ | prefix for kde in kubuntu is? /usr? | 07:45 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | whats the problem with making it more intuitive first time! | 07:45 |
| insanekane | LuNaTiK^GuY: but ?? you know how you could contribute this very minute ? get the source of kubuntu-default-settings ... and change the config files .. send patch to Riddel :) | 07:46 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | loool | 07:46 |
| Riddell | Heart_: kde-config --prefix | 07:46 |
| Riddell | Heart_: it is /usr | 07:46 |
| insanekane | LuNaTiK^GuY: and config files are basically, name=value pairs .. something anyone can do | 07:46 |
| insanekane | LuNaTiK^GuY: and the whole process can be learned in under half an hour | 07:46 |
| ijuz_ | LuNaTiK^GuY: because the developers wanted to name it Amarok, it's so simple | 07:46 |
| Heart_ | Riddell: thx | 07:46 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | but Amarok sounds like Venusian to a newbie....it makes him think that Linux in general is for experts....just coz of a dreaded name!! its all psychological!! | 07:47 |
| insanekane | LuNaTiK^GuY: as i said, you can change all that :) apt-get source kubuntu-default-settings | 07:48 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | lol | 07:48 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | ok i'll try | 07:48 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | :) | 07:48 |
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| Riddell | LuNaTiK^GuY: actually Amarok is an Inuktitut word | 07:48 |
| insanekane | hehe | 07:48 |
| Riddell | how do you think an Inuktitut feels when confronted with something called "media player"? | 07:49 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | downloading the file ;) | 07:49 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | i got the file | 07:49 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | where do i find it? | 07:49 |
| insanekane | LuNaTiK^GuY: if more people take the initiative, maybe a Master like Riddell could give a half an hour IRC workshop on packaging ;) | 07:49 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | lol | 07:49 |
| insanekane | LuNaTiK^GuY: cd kubuntu-default-settings-<versionnumber> | 07:49 |
| insanekane | LuNaTiK^GuY: even if that is not possible, there is a concise introduction to the area on the ubuntu wiki pages which is very useful | 07:50 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | i cant get to the file ;) | 07:50 |
| insanekane | LuNaTiK^GuY: btw, if you didnt know, hitting tab in Konsole shows you completions like for the <versionnumber> above | 07:51 |
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| Riddell | hello Seveas | 07:51 |
| Riddell | oh well | 07:51 |
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| insanekane | LuNaTiK^GuY: ok, im off to eat Tandoori Chicken and Mutter Paneer with Butter Nan along with some nice chutney's and a wierd salad | 07:53 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | lol | 07:53 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | enjoy :) | 07:53 |
| insanekane | LuNaTiK^GuY: if you need help, ask here or in #kubuntu-devel, or wait for me for abt an hour | 07:53 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | i'll be off soon | 07:53 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | but ok :) | 07:53 |
| insanekane | k | 07:53 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | i'll be back | 07:53 |
| insanekane | cya later then | 07:53 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | 10ks a lot! | 07:53 |
| insanekane | ciao | 07:53 |
| insanekane | np | 07:53 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | cirio | 07:54 |
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| LuNaTiK^GuY | how do i go up one directory in console? | 07:55 |
| Soyburg | when I run apt-get update I get a md5 sum error on ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat stable and testing. Is anyone else experiencing this? | 07:56 |
| Soyburg | LuNaTiK^GuY: "cd .." | 07:57 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | 10q | 07:57 |
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| LuNaTiK^GuY | which are the kde config files? | 08:02 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | i've got the default settings | 08:02 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | but which is the config file with the KDE titles? | 08:02 |
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| Tm_T | LuNaTiK^GuY: for ehat configs? | 08:06 |
| Tm_T | s/ehat/what | 08:06 |
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| LuNaTiK^GuY | i got the kde-default-settings pack | 08:09 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | now where can i edit the conf files with the KDE start menu labels? | 08:09 |
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| Soyburg | right click on the K symbol and select the editor. | 08:11 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | but i need to send the patch | 08:12 |
| LuNaTiK^GuY | its not for me ;) | 08:12 |
| markc | dpkg -L kde-default-settings, might reveal something useful | 08:16 |
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| markc | I've modified my menus so I don't want to install that package, so I can't try it | 08:16 |
| seth_k | why is there no kubuntu install cd with 3.4.1? just a live CD? | 08:26 |
| seth_k | or has everything been updated and they just didn't change the numbering | 08:27 |
| seth_k | or will I have to upgrade to 3.4.1 after a kubuntu install | 08:27 |
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| toran | where should I go to add a new network device? | 08:34 |
| liz4rd|zZz | in KDE? | 08:35 |
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| randabis | toran, kcontrol | 08:35 |
| toran | hmm, I have a wireless card and a built-in wired network device. How do I know which is which? | 08:36 |
| randabis | wired cards are usually classified as eth# | 08:36 |
| randabis | wireless are usually wlan# | 08:36 |
| liz4rd | yeah | 08:36 |
| toran | well, I know for sure that eth0 is my wireless card ;-) | 08:37 |
| toran | I think I set it up that way | 08:37 |
| randabis | possible | 08:37 |
| randabis | I was just saying the defaults | 08:37 |
| randabis | in your case kcontrol's network settings should show eth0 and eth1 | 08:38 |
| randabis | it should tell you which is which | 08:38 |
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| toran | randabis: ok, I see eth1, but I click enable and it doesn't get enables | 08:39 |
| toran | *enabled | 08:39 |
| randabis | toran: you may need to assign it an ip address first | 08:39 |
| toran | I did | 08:39 |
| toran | hmm... I'll just edit /etc/network/interfaces | 08:39 |
| toran | any basic configs for a wired device? | 08:39 |
| randabis | usually something like | 08:40 |
| randabis | eth# inet dhcp | 08:40 |
| insanekane | randabis: where is "kcontrol's network settings" ? I cant find it in Control Centre | 08:40 |
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| toran | except my network doesn't have dhcp ;-) | 08:40 |
| liz4rd | why not? | 08:41 |
| randabis | well you'd change that to static then | 08:41 |
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| insanekane | toran: you can do man /etc/network/interfaces which gives u some samples for static network | 08:41 |
| toran | actually, I'm trying to connect to another computer using a crossover cable, anything special I'll need? | 08:41 |
| randabis | iface eth0 inet static | 08:42 |
| randabis | address #.#.#.# | 08:42 |
| randabis | netmask #.#.#.# | 08:42 |
| randabis | auto eth0 | 08:42 |
| randabis | like that | 08:42 |
| randabis | should need anything special | 08:42 |
| randabis | shouldn't | 08:42 |
| randabis | sorry for flood | 08:42 |
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| yourghetek | whats the command to find somebody in irc? | 08:48 |
| yourghetek | the last seen thing | 08:48 |
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| seth_k | I don't think !seen works here | 08:50 |
| randabis | probably not | 08:50 |
| seth_k | !seen randabis | 08:50 |
| seth_k | nope :D | 08:50 |
| randabis | hehe | 08:51 |
| yourghetek | used it in ubuntu channel | 08:51 |
| yourghetek | thanks guys | 08:51 |
| randabis | there's a bot in #ubuntu that does it apparently | 08:51 |
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| yourghetek | cant kubuntu have one too? | 08:52 |
| randabis | I asked it if it had seen the lochness monster | 08:52 |
| randabis | heh | 08:52 |
| Almindor | any idea when kubuntu get's KDE 3.4.1? | 08:52 |
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| Almindor | there's an ugly bug fixed there :) | 08:53 |
| randabis | Almindor: already has it unofficially | 08:53 |
| randabis | read the topic | 08:53 |
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| yourghetek | lets all go into the ubuntu channel and look for mystical creatures (!seen) | 08:53 |
| randabis | goody | 08:53 |
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| yourghetek | randabis. want to? | 08:54 |
| randabis | the novelty wore off already | 08:54 |
| yourghetek | hehe | 08:54 |
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| insanekane | Anyone from India in here ? | 08:55 |
| insanekane | apparently not | 08:58 |
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| randabis | <ubotu> root <~Kevin@CPE0006255ab096-CM400049887786.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 6d 21h 55m 9s ago, saying: 'am I hacked?' | 09:00 |
| randabis | lol | 09:00 |
| insanekane | LOL | 09:01 |
| insanekane | randabis: i can't stop laughing :) | 09:01 |
| randabis | yeah | 09:02 |
| _sbcl3 | what does the kubuntu base system [server installation] install? | 09:02 |
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| insanekane | _sbcl3: stuff needed for a server ? (perhaps no X) ? | 09:02 |
| randabis | _sbcl3: I believe just the base system that would be universal to any ubuntu install | 09:02 |
| insanekane | debian base system ? or kubuntu server installation ? | 09:03 |
| randabis | it would be debian base | 09:03 |
| randabis | I've done one before | 09:03 |
| randabis | meaning typing "server" at the boot screen of the install disk | 09:03 |
| insanekane | i dont think _sbcl3 means that ... i think he talks regarding the comment when the boot screen shows with the install cd | 09:04 |
| randabis | yeah I know, that's what I just said | 09:04 |
| insanekane | yeah .. but server install is more than debian base | 09:04 |
| insanekane | iirc, debian base is what is initially installed on the disk, which installs the rest, be it kubuntu desktop or kubuntu server ... | 09:04 |
| randabis | not the install that occurs when you type "server" | 09:05 |
| gideon | Hi, I have more of a common linux question. I've installed Kubuntu on my Toshiba Laptop ( Satellite Pro 4300, not that new :( ) and I'm having trouble setting up my 56K modem. I allready discoverd, linmodems are not really supported, so I've added a Xircom ethernet/56k PCMCIA combi to solve my problem | 09:05 |
| randabis | typing "server" at the boot screen installs only the base system, nothing else | 09:05 |
| gideon | But I don't know where to start to get it working :S (never dealed with dialup software before in linux) | 09:05 |
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| randabis | try the program kppp | 09:06 |
| _zarathustra | hi | 09:06 |
| randabis | I haven't used a modem in years so I can't help you | 09:06 |
| insanekane | randabis: but that would be counterproductive ... it wouldn't install enough for a usable system | 09:06 |
| randabis | insanekane: it's not meant to | 09:06 |
| insanekane | gideon: use KPPP and check for ur modem | 09:06 |
| _zarathustra | i've two little problems after compiling my own kernel | 09:06 |
| gideon | got it running, HUGE list of posible modem devices :x | 09:07 |
| randabis | insanekane: it's meant to give you a base system where you can choose to add things individually to it | 09:07 |
| insanekane | randabis: debian base and kubuntu server is different in the sense that kubuntu server is a superset of debian base (or the ubuntu version thereof) | 09:07 |
| _zarathustra | my etherenet interface doesn't start with the system, i have to activate it manually by "ifup eth0" | 09:07 |
| randabis | insanekane: server does ubuntu-base iirc | 09:07 |
| insanekane | gideon: the way i think is, to select each one by one (starting with say /dev/modem) and then use the "Query modem" to see if the modem really works | 09:07 |
| insanekane | randabis: ok | 09:08 |
| randabis | I just know that doing server at the boot screen only installs the base system and nothing else | 09:08 |
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| randabis | you can then add everything you want piece by piece | 09:09 |
| insanekane | right | 09:09 |
| yourghetek | can i mount my samba (microsoft) workgroup to a folder called 'workgroup' my media folder | 09:09 |
| insanekane | randabis: so, with kubuntu server, after doing the initial CD copying thing, it doesnt restart and install the rest of the packages ? | 09:09 |
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| insanekane | yourghetek: it will probably show up in Remote Places rather than in media:/ | 09:10 |
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| randabis | insanekane: nope. I think it "may" restart, but nothing else is installed. Been a little while since I've done it | 09:10 |
| insanekane | ok | 09:10 |
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| yourghetek | insanekaneL i cant burn a cd from files on remote shares using k3b like that | 09:10 |
| insanekane | yourghetek: yes you cant :) | 09:10 |
| yourghetek | my remote folder isnt there | 09:10 |
| yourghetek | and it wont let me put in the path to my windows machine | 09:11 |
| insanekane | yes, afaik, you cant do that from a file in media:/ url either | 09:11 |
| randabis | yourghetek: you can mount samba shares in /media I believe. Can't say for sure since I only use nfs | 09:11 |
| yourghetek | yeah | 09:11 |
| yourghetek | whats the command for that? | 09:11 |
| insanekane | randabis: he means the Media ioslave than /media | 09:11 |
| yourghetek | i alrady made the dir | 09:11 |
| randabis | I don't know...it could be different than the way to do it with nfs | 09:12 |
| randabis | suggest checking man mount | 09:13 |
| insanekane | so doing smb://path/to/your/file in k3b doesnt allow you to write to cd ? why dont u copy from that location to ur home folder ? | 09:13 |
| randabis | lol@man mount | 09:13 |
| insanekane | :) | 09:13 |
| yourghetek | insane kane.. i kinda wanted to do it the cool way... | 09:13 |
| insanekane | the "cool" way ? ;) | 09:14 |
| randabis | I think I know how to do it | 09:14 |
| randabis | mount ip:/folder smbfs /media/blah | 09:14 |
| yourghetek | ah! | 09:14 |
| yourghetek | good idea | 09:15 |
| randabis | or something similar | 09:15 |
| yourghetek | and then just make the router assign that ip forever to the windows machines mac | 09:15 |
| randabis | could be | 09:15 |
| yourghetek | thanks | 09:15 |
| yourghetek | will try and post to forums if it works | 09:15 |
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| yourghetek | and of course will give you props | 09:16 |
| yourghetek | !seen a simpler, more childish interface than gnome | 09:16 |
| randabis | np | 09:17 |
| randabis | lol | 09:17 |
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| gideon | finished testing all possible devices. Googled around for about an hour. Seems that hotplug misleads the modprobe. cardinfo and cardmgr both don't detect a card, though my network connection works. But the 56k modem doesn't work | 09:28 |
| bobbyd | gideon: you can pass options to an automatically loaded module | 09:29 |
| gideon | do you mean, do I know how to do that? (in that case, yes) | 09:30 |
| gideon | but I don't know, what I should pass | 09:30 |
| gideon | or declare in /etc/modules | 09:30 |
| bobbyd | ahh | 09:30 |
| gideon | cardctl ident says there arent any pcmcia cards available, while I'm connected to the internet through the card :( | 09:32 |
| bobbyd | I have a digital camera that works with digikam in gentoo, but under ubuntu it neither works with the camera io slave or digikam | 09:32 |
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| bobbyd | I suspect the camera ioslave is somehow grabbing the device so digikam can't use it | 09:33 |
| gideon | USB? so in nautilus you don't see anything within 30 seconds in; media:/// | 09:33 |
| bobbyd | nautilus? you mean conqueror? | 09:33 |
| bobbyd | s/c/k | 09:33 |
| gideon | sorry :x my baddy (you said ubuntu :D) | 09:34 |
| bobbyd | doh | 09:34 |
| bobbyd | the camera icon pops up, but the window is empty | 09:34 |
| bobbyd | do I just wait? it doesn't look like anythig is happening | 09:34 |
| Heart | azureus isn't in a repos. :(? | 09:35 |
| gideon | could do "lsusb" in konsole to look if anything happened | 09:35 |
| bobbyd | yeah it's a kodak USB camera | 09:35 |
| insanekane | Heart: try bittorrent-bittornado | 09:35 |
| gideon | still should be visible withing a few seconds under media:/ | 09:35 |
| Heart | insanekane: is this console-only or with a gui? | 09:35 |
| insanekane | Heart: it has *a* gui ... | 09:36 |
| insanekane | Heart: and usually, when u download a torrent in konqeror, it will be opened in bittornado | 09:36 |
| bobbyd | gideon: it shows with lsusb and the camera icon shows in media:/// | 09:36 |
| bobbyd | gideon: but there are no pictures there :( | 09:37 |
| insanekane | Heart: but, it probably isnt the kind of gui which u probably expect as in azereus | 09:37 |
| gideon | so, the whole cam is plugged into the system, you've got a SD card and the camera's internal memory. That means you should see 2 devices | 09:37 |
| gideon | try | 09:37 |
| gideon | "mount" and see if they come up | 09:38 |
| gideon | if you don't see anything, try "fdisk -l", you should see a few "sdX#" devices (like "sda1" or "sdb1") | 09:38 |
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| gideon | if no luck yet, unplug the cam, modprobe usb-storage, replug the cam, and retry the whole list | 09:39 |
| bobbyd | gideon: as I said, it works under digikam under gentoo. I'm happy with that, so I suppose I just want to stop KDE fiddling with it :) | 09:39 |
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| bobbyd | I don't thik it's a problem with support, I think I just need to let digikam see it again | 09:40 |
| GnuKemist | Hi... I just installed Kubuntu on my thinkpad X40 and I noticed Konqueror to be painfully slow... I haven't used KDE before, so... is Konqueror really slow or is there something else? | 09:41 |
| insanekane | hmm ... actually, kde 3.4 is faster for me than older versions | 09:41 |
| insanekane | anyway ... ciao all .. enjoy kubuntu !! | 09:42 |
| GnuKemist | hummm | 09:42 |
| bobbyd | GnuKemist: what have you used in the past? | 09:42 |
| GnuKemist | it is so weird... and I really want to try out KDE | 09:42 |
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| bobbyd | what behaviour are you seeing? | 09:42 |
| GnuKemist | bobbyd... mostly Gnome or OpenBox with Firefox | 09:43 |
| GnuKemist | bobbyd it is painfully slow | 09:43 |
| bobbyd | konqueror shouldn't be any slower than nautilus(sp?) | 09:43 |
| gideon | you mean like, leave it alone? | 09:43 |
| bobbyd | GnuKemist: what do you actually mean by that | 09:43 |
| bobbyd | gideon: yes | 09:43 |
| bobbyd | gideon: do I need to fiddle with udev to make that happen? | 09:44 |
| GnuKemist | I mean, the pages load extremelly slow | 09:44 |
| bobbyd | GnuKemist: you mean web pages? you're not being very descriptive :) | 09:44 |
| gideon | :S ... never had that issue before. Don't know how you could turn that down | 09:44 |
| GnuKemist | bobbyd... sorry... I forget you can use Koqueror for more than browsing the web | 09:45 |
| GnuKemist | bobbyd... yes, I meant web pages | 09:45 |
| bobbyd | GnuKemist: have you tried another browser? maybe you have a dns resolution problem | 09:46 |
| bobbyd | GnuKemist: what exactly happens? do you see very high cpu usage? | 09:46 |
| GnuKemist | possible | 09:46 |
| GnuKemist | but it should be ok... | 09:46 |
| bobbyd | does it just sit there for a while then load all at once | 09:46 |
| GnuKemist | I'm using it at home | 09:46 |
| GnuKemist | bobbyd... something like that | 09:46 |
| bobbyd | describe what happens when you load a page. if you don't do that clearly, I can't really help | 09:47 |
| GnuKemist | it is true that kwifi(something) doesn't seem to recognize my AP and I often have to iwconfig it | 09:47 |
| bobbyd | and also, run top in a konsole and change the delay to something like 0.1 and see if the cpu usage is very high when you load a page | 09:48 |
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| GnuKemist | bobbyd... don't have the laptop on me atm... but I guess you described it really well when you said that it takes a while and then loads it in one slow move | 09:48 |
| bobbyd | if it's not, then something else is delaying the loading of pages | 09:48 |
| bobbyd | GnuKemist: that sounds like a network problem | 09:48 |
| GnuKemist | will have to check then... when I get home... | 09:48 |
| bobbyd | I would do the above, and also try something like 'links' to see if you get the same problem | 09:48 |
| GnuKemist | that is a good idea... | 09:49 |
| bobbyd | you could also try pinging some sites and see how long they take to resolve | 09:49 |
| GnuKemist | like I said, I installed it last night and haven't really spent too much time with it | 09:49 |
| bobbyd | ok, no problem, if you get more info, come back :) | 09:50 |
| GnuKemist | I had Ubuntu running before but I knew where/how to do things | 09:50 |
| GnuKemist | will do | 09:50 |
| GnuKemist | thanx a million | 09:50 |
| bobbyd | no problemo | 09:50 |
| GnuKemist | hehe | 09:50 |
| GnuKemist | later | 09:50 |
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| foodcoman | Where is all the wallpaper at in KDE/Kubuntu? | 09:58 |
| foodcoman | If you snag new ones, do you put them with those, or just point to ones in your home dir? | 09:58 |
| philipacamaniac | put them in your home directory | 09:59 |
| philipacamaniac | probably best in ~/.kde/share/wallpapers, or just wherever you put pictures | 09:59 |
| foodcoman | Thanks philip! Makes sense because most would probably back their home dir and not the whole distro. | 10:00 |
| philipacamaniac | yes, and upgrades might write over the /usr/share/wallpaper directory | 10:01 |
| foodcoman | Great advise. Thanks. | 10:01 |
| philipacamaniac | no prob | 10:01 |
| foodcoman | Read an article on the Dual Core Athlon's. Pretty hot stuff! | 10:03 |
| foodcoman | Wish I could afford to build a new machine! | 10:03 |
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| nmorse | It would be great to build a new machine with Athlon64's | 10:07 |
| nmorse | Too bad I'm broke, and I'll be attending college in a couple of months, so no job for me | 10:08 |
| foodcoman | Does Linux work well with new SLI video cards also? | 10:12 |
| foodcoman | That would be a smokin combo. | 10:12 |
| ijuz_ | you need at least the binary only drivers from nvidia, they are either suporting it or will support soon | 10:14 |
| bobbyd | foodcoman: Nvidia cards should work | 10:14 |
| bobbyd | foodcoman: check the nvidia driver page | 10:14 |
| foodcoman | bobbyd: I have an older one. | 10:14 |
| bobbyd | hmmmmm | 10:15 |
| bobbyd | digikam works when I'm root | 10:15 |
| foodcoman | bobbyd: It works. I am curious how close to Bleading edge they are? | 10:15 |
| ijuz_ | but anyway, the only good use would be to connect more than 2 displays | 10:15 |
| bobbyd | I read something on a debian forum about being in the camera group, but there doesn't seem to be a camera group in kubuntu | 10:15 |
| bobbyd | foodcoman: the linux and win drivers are supposed to be the same for nvidia | 10:16 |
| foodcoman | ijuz_: hahahah, I can barely handle one. | 10:16 |
| bobbyd | foodcoman: so they should contain allthe same features | 10:16 |
| bobbyd | foodcoman: The linux drivers sometimes have OGL support that isn't even in the win32 ones | 10:16 |
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| ijuz_ | foodcoman: actually i thought about this, displays are so cheap this days, but i have stuff over my desk, so i can't have a 2*2 setup | 10:16 |
| bobbyd | foodcoman: but I haven't had a lot of time to check them out lately as I've been working under windows at work | 10:17 |
| airox | Anybody who knows a way to get Kcontact (or a applet) to get into the taskbar and notify me about new emails ? | 10:17 |
| foodcoman | ijuz_: buy a leaf blower and clean the desk for a second display! | 10:17 |
| foodcoman | =) | 10:17 |
| bobbyd | ijuz_: we all have dual monitor setups at work, it's really cool :) | 10:17 |
| foodcoman | bobbyd: Same here, but run a gratuitous Kubuntu box at work. Mainly Kubuntu for home. | 10:17 |
| ijuz_ | i have dual monitor, but more would be nice | 10:17 |
| Heart | when i try to install amule aptitude wants to delete several packages... (kubuntu-desktop, konversation, kdenetwork and so on) :( | 10:18 |
| bobbyd | foodcoman: I have no linux desktop at work at the moment | 10:18 |
| foodcoman | bobbyd: =( SSH and tunnel VNC session to home. | 10:19 |
| bobbyd | foodcoman: we have linux servers, and I've just snagged a linux machine for some tasks | 10:19 |
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