[12:06] mrmanic|afk: I'll give that a try...I haven't tried a logout after messing with the enviroment settings I thought they were instant...but I'll give it a try === monchy [~monchy@S010600e04c400007.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu === sanvel [~sanvel@195.204.240.249] has joined #kubuntu === mindspin [~mindspin@p54B2EAFC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === arthurb [~arthurb@mar92-5-82-225-146-12.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === ToyMan [~stuq@user-12lcqur.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu === m-fox [~m-fox@port-212-202-9-80.dynamic.qsc.de] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] [12:25] I can do a full install using the 'live' disk, yes? === matrix [~matrix@dsl-084-056-109-040.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu === afra [~SohbetIRC@85.96.234.95] has joined #Kubuntu === afra [~SohbetIRC@85.96.234.95] has left #Kubuntu ["] === Zanoi [zanoi@h75n1fls311o1100.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:35] ToyMan: yep === nxv_ [~nxv_@dsl-084-056-109-040.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu === sanvel [~sanvel@195.204.240.249] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === M_Fatih [~fatih@85.97.30.208] has joined #kubuntu === foodcoman [~berickson@mcdonaldwhsl.com] has joined #kubuntu === utta [~utta@c-24-128-224-224.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === nxv__ [~nxv_@dsl-084-056-096-047.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu === _matrix [~matrix@dsl-084-056-096-047.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu === monchy [~monchy@S010600e04c400007.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:20] hi === Mez yawns [01:26] lol === Mez [~Mez@82-36-228-130.cable.ubr01.perr.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === sirukin [~sirukin@64.247.151.242] has joined #kubuntu === nmorse_away is now known as nmorse === stibby [~stibby@pcp0010826631pcs.coatsv01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === monchy [~monchy@S010600e04c400007.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:57] i hear that a new kubuntu was released. How do i update from KDE 3.4 to KDE 3.4.1? (and similarly, is koffice's next version available?) [02:02] stibby: add deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary-updates main to your sources.list [02:03] k [02:04] what is/are the package(s) called? [02:04] (sorry; not on that computer right now :( ) [02:04] after you add it, do sudo apt-get update in konsole, then sudo apt-get upgrade === _doneill [~doneill@S01060050babaeddc.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:05] it'll show you the list of packages that are to be downloaded === Octane [~octane@dsl092-100-149.nyc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu === lonnie [~lonnie@home.limbonia.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:10] split === judax [~judax@ppp-69-148-18-161.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu === seth_k [~seth@24-117-104-21.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #kubuntu === _doneill [~doneill@S01060050babaeddc.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu === foodcoman [~berickson@mcdonaldwhsl.com] has joined #kubuntu === dooglio [~doug@adsl-216-102-106-223.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu === liz4rd [~liz4rd@static24-72-76-248.regina.accesscomm.ca] has joined #kubuntu === Burgundavia [~corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:16] the fancy new kde-systemsettings, can I see some screenshots somewhere> === penguinboy [~penguinbo@24.159.145.55] has joined #kubuntu [02:17] Evening, Guys! [02:18] hey penguin [02:19] hey [02:20] herro [02:20] lol === CruNcher [~lulu_lol@dsl-084-058-147-252.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu === rem_ [~rem@adsl-136-116-bs2.tiscali.ch] has joined #kubuntu === Jeezis [~roger@4.23.226.250] has joined #kubuntu [02:20] Hey hey hey monchy! === Burgundavia [~corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [02:21] what is up and i'll be back, time to order out [02:21] I am contrmplating installing Kubuntu on my laptop [02:22] DO IT [02:22] :P [02:22] okay! [02:22] here goes [02:22] the penguin comands it [02:23] someone is going to have to help me get my wireless working [02:23] ^_^ nominates monchy [02:23] mm [02:24] I put the install disk in....press enter to bypass startup...then it beeps twice and I get the messager Authentication of system services failed. Pres to Resume. [02:24] lol [02:24] and it boots in XP [02:24] no don't nominate monchy lol === claydoh [~claydoh@65.99.187.85] has joined #kubuntu [02:24] :) [02:24] what do i do === kalenedrael [~kalene@c-24-218-137-85.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:25] hey claydoh [02:25] hey kalenedrael [02:25] hey === marcelo [~marcelo@200.96.67.194] has joined #kubuntu [02:26] it wont boot from the DVD [02:26] hey [02:26] hmm? [02:26] penguinboy, check bios settings [02:27] or try the CD... [02:28] mmm [02:28] anyone els notice fluxbox is shitty on ubuntu and kubuntu [02:28] ? [02:28] likely is === astro76 [~james@astro76.user] has joined #kubuntu [02:32] batman begins tomorrow woohoo [02:32] looks like no Kubuntu on my laptop [02:32] 8( [02:32] slackware then :D [02:33] penguinboy, umm [02:33] tried the CD? [02:33] I am using the Hoary CD [02:33] can your laptop boot the kubuntu live portion of the DVD? [02:33] will it boot from DVD at all? [02:33] i don't think it's the distro's fault [02:34] no...i think it is a problem with my laptop [02:34] is salck an easy install? [02:34] slack [02:34] yeah [02:34] pretty straight forword [02:34] how many disks [02:34] 2 [02:34] it comes will loads of stuff [02:35] and all the main WM's [02:35] well you can select them [02:35] purty dekstop? [02:35] desktop [02:35] uses kde 3.4 [02:35] yeah you can have KDE, Gnome, xfce4, fluxbox, blackbox and osme others === wirwzd [~wirwzd@c-24-218-115-209.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:35] if you do full install [02:35] where should I get the isos? [02:35] enlightenment [02:35] i like kde [02:36] or can I install over the net? [02:36] don't forget e [02:36] unfortunately i like e more but it doesn't work [02:36] xfce4 is my girlfriend ^_^ [02:36] lol [02:36] lol [02:36] i cannot stand gnome or gnome-based things like xfce [02:36] penguinboy: hold i'll give you the links [02:36] k [02:36] linuxiso.org? [02:36] kalenedrael: well poo you then [02:36] maybe [02:36] i don't think i could give up kde [02:36] do you want torrent file? [02:37] or striaght iso [02:37] that is okay [02:37] either or [02:37] poo me? [02:37] i think gnome is ugly [02:37] yeah its all i could ocme up with at the time [02:37] yes it is ugly [02:37] i do to [02:37] but i made my xfce look purdy [02:37] it is not as configurable as kde [02:37] Gnome is horribly ugly [02:37] XFCE4 can be made all shiny and KDE-ified [02:37] with kde bassed icons and such [02:38] yeah [02:38] oooo nmorse you got to use these icons!!!! [02:38] hold on [02:38] http://xfce-look.org/content/download.php?content=23297&id=1 [02:38] Hey, guess what, Ubuntu has mythv deb's!!! [02:39] mythtv [02:39] whats that [02:39] DVR software for Linux [02:39] oh cool [02:39] are those the gant icons liz lol [02:39] yeah!!!! [02:39] <3 those [02:39] also called umicons for kde [02:39] disc 1 downloading [02:39] i love them i use them on ever WM [02:39] :P [02:40] does it have icons from gant 3 included? [02:40] i think go look [02:40] gant 3! [02:40] its prttey big for an icon sety [02:40] set [02:40] covers everythign [02:40] thats why they are the best ;) [02:40] slack is only downloading at 32.0 KB/sec [02:40] yeah :D [02:40] nmorse: can i see a screeny of your desktop? [02:41] Ah, so they're called umicons on KDE? === knet [~dtaylor@dsl-210-15-250-66.NSW.netspace.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [02:41] Probably not, liz4rd [02:41] liz your on kubuntu right? or are you using slack right now [02:41] My ftp server's acting up and DCC not worky here [02:41] liz4rd....where is the bittorrent download of slack isos? [02:41] kubuntu [02:41] but i lasted the longest on slack [02:41] :P [02:42] ok, you've made a believer out of me [02:42] who :P [02:42] xfce r0z [02:42] r0x* [02:42] yeah i knoqw [02:42] know [02:42] yeah can we install it on kubuntu? [02:42] mmm... [02:42] i like it cuse of the simplicity and speed [02:42] eyah [02:42] how is it in terms of memory usage? [02:42] sudo apt-get install xfce4 [02:42] Yeah, but the Ubuntu XFCE themes don't work [02:42] will it be fubar cause of the archives though [02:42] yeah they do [02:42] I've been trying to convert them, but it's not easy going [02:42] will apt work on Slack? [02:43] everything works [02:43] no [02:43] for slack [02:43] I can't get the win decos to work [02:43] theres slap-get [02:43] or swaret [02:43] slap works like apt? [02:43] swaret is better than slap-get but not as good as apt-getr [02:43] penguinboy: http://slackware.com/torrents/slackware-10.1-install-d1.torrent [02:43] penguinboy: http://slackware.com/torrents/slackware-10.1-install-d2.torrent [02:44] there are 4 discs total here [02:44] the others are source [02:44] 3 and 4 = [02:44] ISO disc 3 (Sources part 1, /extra , Slackware book) [02:44] ISO disc 4 (Sources part 2, ZipSlack, /pasture) [02:44] alright gettin xfce4 now [02:44] sweet!!! [02:44] sudo apt-get install xfce [02:44] i think the xfce comunity has to grow more [02:45] hopefully it won't eat all my memory like kde lol [02:45] lol oh god no [02:45] its really fast [02:45] let's hope it works, unlike enlightenment [02:45] yeah i know what you mean [02:45] yeah, kde is a bit memory hoggish [02:45] enlightenment looked cool on the site [02:45] as much as i like it [02:45] gnome hogs the most [02:45] kde takes nearly no memory [02:46] now that's a load of bs lol [02:46] lol yeah [02:46] enlightenment was great for me, but it was so different from any other window manager i've used before that i couldn't get used to it [02:46] ijuz__, haha [02:46] kde apps are faster than gnome apps tho [02:46] are you kidding? [02:46] kde uses like 250 megs just starting [02:46] kalenedrael: it just uses a few MB [02:46] Enlightenment's great, but not on Ubuntu [02:46] i'm up to 460mb right now [02:46] O.o a "few" MB? [02:46] kalenedrael: yeah and had lots of glitches for me [02:46] i call bullshit [02:46] ok brb [02:46] I can't seem to get it or XFCE4 to work properly on Ubuntu [02:47] kalenedrael: start only X and after that KDE it won't use much more [02:47] nmorse: [02:47] gdm> [02:47] > [02:47] ?*** [02:47] X is using 9% of my memory [02:47] do you think Slack will recognize my wireless connections? [02:47] that would be about 90MB [02:47] kde uses about 160 on top of that [02:48] 1.3 for me [02:48] liz4rd, X is using 1% of your mem? [02:48] how much is that? [02:48] penguinboy: no clue never even touched wifi yet [02:48] kalenedrael: yup thats what top says [02:49] liz4rd: stuff keeps failing to load or my clicks for menus don't work, etc. [02:49] kalenedrael: so you are using fancy things, i just found a mail from me when i measured it a year ago, i guess it was KDE 3.2 and the box used 12 MB without X and after starting X and KDE is just used 56 MB [02:49] the .xinitrc files are broken in the packages on Ubuntu, I think [02:49] thats messed [02:49] i thought ubuntu was great === monchy [~monchy@S010600e04c400007.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:49] alrighty all done [02:49] wb monchy [02:50] till i fucked up the ls command with a rootkit ^_^ so i installed kubuntu and...boy was i wrong [02:50] um [02:50] ummm.... [02:50] think much? [02:50] you fucked up your *own* box with a rootkit? [02:50] liz did you keep kde installed after putting on xfce? [02:50] yeah...it was brazilian [02:51] yeah [02:51] that way you can use the other apps [02:51] it runs fast together [02:51] faster than xfce4 and gnome id say [02:51] k [02:51] lol i thought enlightenment was next gen :P [02:52] e17 will be [02:52] yeah i know [02:52] It's crazy what they're doing with that thing [02:52] i cant wait [02:52] Neither can I [02:52] have they set a date yet? [02:52] I don't think so [02:53] cuz ii saw there plans for it like awhile ago [02:53] wonder if there taking a brake [02:53] I don't know, I'll ask in #enlightenment [02:53] ok [02:54] okay...found a good download...235 KB/Sec [02:54] any other slack users in here? [02:54] just me i think [02:54] but i'm sure i can help [02:54] I am sure you can too [02:54] well i'm not using slack but i was one it for awhile [02:54] I used it once [02:54] I have confidence in you [02:54] and I used vector [02:54] and college linux [02:55] i just hope it recognized my wireless on install [02:55] recognizes [02:55] I always forget college when listing distros I've used [02:55] and Ark [02:56] slack's homepage isn;t very snazzy [02:56] mm <3 chinese food [02:56] slack doesn;t just use tarballs does it...I am no good at installing from tarballs [02:56] for me: knoppixc was my first, then suse, fedora core 2, slackware, ubuntu and now kubuntu [02:57] right now my favs are kubuntu and slackware [02:57] You've got Chinese food? Lucky! === _tron [~tron@201.247.88.96] has joined #kubuntu [02:57] OMG PASS THAT FOOD!!! [02:57] oh yeah i love it, just takes too long to deliever [02:57] 45 minutes wtf [02:57] Debian 2.1, Red Hat 8-9, SuSE 8.2 Personal, Debian Sid, Gentoo, Ubuntu for ones I stuck with [02:58] i wish to one day succesfully install gentoo [02:58] Mandrake 9.2,10, Ark, College, Vector, et als. I just played with [02:58] I did a stage 2 I think [02:58] gentoo is a HARD install [02:58] yeah? [02:58] yeah [02:58] Stage 1 is a retarded way to go unless your computer can be down for days [02:59] And if you RTFM it's pretty easy for Stage 2 at least [02:59] I never ever RTFM! [03:00] whats that? [03:00] LOL [03:00] LOL [03:00] Read [03:00] the [03:00] lol [03:00] Read the Friend Manual [03:00] Friendly* [03:00] Better than other F adjectives, if you ask me [03:00] no [03:00] lol [03:00] lol [03:01] penguinboy: you should RTFM [03:01] It makes life easier === CruNcher [~lulu_lol@dsl-084-058-147-252.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:01] i know [03:01] And those of use who are elitist snobs will tell you that every day [03:01] RTFM is generally my downfall [03:01] hold on i'm put an upload script on my server so you guys can upload your screenys :D [03:01] yeah, there are those people [03:01] It's what to do after you screw up, right? [03:01] oh yes nmorse...there are SEVERAL of those over in Fedora [03:01] i've never told someone to rtfm :P [03:02] Fedora, elitist? [03:02] Fedora snobs [03:02] Nah, try Gentoo's zealots and Debian's mailing list [03:02] I would ask a questions and they would inevitably say...RTFM! [03:02] yeah [03:02] I really don't say that much [03:02] oh god these egg rolls [03:02] Or I say it nicer [03:02] I hate egg rolls [03:02] I LOVE EGG ROLLS! [03:02] even when the fabled "FM" doesn't have anything you need in it [03:02] Cabbage should never be cooked [03:02] LOL kale [03:03] i like chinese food [03:03] I want some Pork Lo Mein now, you jerk [03:03] Where does one get this mysterious and often ellusive FM???? [03:03] ooh i got this spicy ginger beef too [03:03] if you download the ISOs....there is no FM [03:03] man program [03:03] rmFM? [03:03] fm* [03:04] well, there is [03:04] you apt-get install package-doc [03:04] where package is the name of the package you want the docs fo [03:04] r [03:05] I think the Docs should be installed by default [03:05] they should [03:05] For a n00b-friendly distro, not doing this is retarded [03:06] What are the nOOb-friendly distroas? [03:06] Linspire :D [03:06] definitely not Gentoo [03:06] Ubuntu/Kubuntu, SuSE really, Ark when it fixes its bugs [03:06] genpoo [03:06] Debian Sarge even [03:06] how much is 10 megs in bytes? [03:06] I never coul get Debian to install [03:06] fedora is pretty user-friendly [03:06] i hate mandrake/mandriva [03:07] fedora hated my moniture [03:07] 10,000,00? [03:07] i could not stand it [03:07] Have you tried the new debian-installer, penguinboy ? [03:07] no [03:07] It's what Ubuntu uses [03:07] liz4rd: 1,000 bytes is one KB. 1,000 KB is one MB [03:07] By base 8, penguinboy, not base 10 [03:07] oops [03:07] liz4rd, got one of those weird WXGA displays? [03:07] 1024, not 1000 [03:07] nah cyber vision or w/e [03:07] Learn your binary [03:07] are there any ebian users in the room? [03:07] nmorse, decimal vs. binary [03:07] nmorse, tell that to hard drive makers :P [03:08] Binary is all important [03:08] what about hexadecimal [03:08] i should hope that most of us use kubuntu, considering what channel it is [03:08] I use Debian sometimes [03:08] Hex is just double-word binary [03:08] sixteen bit [03:08] Take an A+ class sometimes [03:08] Yeah, double-word binary [03:08] right === penguinboy looks in the catalogue for the next A+ class [03:09] A word being 8 bytes, double-word being hex [03:09] ok, how do i get xfce and e to show up in my session type at the login screen? [03:09] Copy from /usr/share/sessions [03:09] to... where? [03:09] Good question [03:09] To /usr/share/apps/kdm/sessions of course [03:09] of course [03:10] Far be it for the Ubuntu team to make sure the packages install to DM's properly [03:10] yeah... [03:10] I'm telling you, if I ever get off my lazy bum, I'm fixing this distro [03:10] kewl [03:11] I was going to make my own distro, but I like this one [03:11] lol [03:11] ls /usr/share/xsessions returns kde.desktop [03:11] Mostly due to being debian based, but upgraded often [03:12] i can't find the enlightenment.desktop or xfce.desktop [03:12] Hmm [03:12] I have both enlightenment and xfce4 in my /usr/share/xsessions [03:12] Maybe it was copy from /usr/share/apps/kdm/sessions to /usr/share/xsessions [03:12] brb everyone hair cut === _tron [~tron@201.247.88.96] has joined #kubuntu [03:14] woot, i can install packages without having to clean up the disk :P [03:14] as in, uninstalling old ones [03:14] What was the problem before? [03:15] on my other compys and prior to repartitioning the hard drive on this, i only had a few gigs for linux === Shachaf [~Shachaf@c66-235-25-227.sea2.cablespeed.com] has left #kubuntu ["[<>] "] === nmorse is installing mythv right now [03:16] mythtv* [03:18] what's that? [03:18] Now if I can figure out how to make apt and dpkg use distcc for building packages, I'll be set [03:19] Mythtv is a DVR program, like TiVo [03:19] I'm installing it so I can use my Video Capture card to record my Halo 2 sessions and of course store TV shows, skip ads, etc === BROKEN_LADDER [~pral@h-68-164-186-228.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #KUBUNTU [03:24] i wonder how i lived without sudo and apt-get [03:24] What other distros did you use? [03:24] Though life without them is hard to imagine these days [03:24] fc3 and rh8 [03:24] I tried going back once, to Gentoo actually [03:24] When I got back here, I realized how much I had missed apt [03:24] heh [03:25] yeah, apt is great [03:25] Red Hat 8 was crap though [03:25] Fedora Core 3 was one of their worst releases too, so I hear [03:25] So welcome to the actual desktop linux community [03:25] Here's hoping Ubuntu doesn't become just a fad distro, here today, much less popular tommorrow [03:25] thanks [03:26] yeah... [03:26] ubuntu is a very well-designed distro [03:26] it won't be, but that all depends on breezy [03:26] i originally thought "wtf, it's only one CD?" [03:26] and wondered how all the packages can fit on that [03:27] They can't is the only answer [03:27] Debian Sarge took 14 [03:27] well, they don't, but you only download the packages you need later, which is very nice [03:27] yeah, you have a functional desktop complete with important programs, then you use apt to get more stuff [03:27] Universe is your friend [03:28] multiverse is my friend [03:28] I attempted to join the Linux room on Yahoo [03:28] Then someone asked how to remotely login to the localhost from the localhost [03:28] And I had to leave to preserve my sanity [03:29] Remotely and localhost just don't mix [03:30] yeah.... === sproingie [~chuck@64-121-15-14.c3-0.sfrn-ubr8.sfrn.ca.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu === _nate__ [~nate@c66.168.31.134.mad.wi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:32] sproingie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 [03:33] man what a shitty fortune [03:34] what was it [03:34] "you may attend a party where strange customs prevail" [03:34] LOL [03:34] perhaps a live animal sacrifice? [03:34] lol [03:34] ;( === tron_ [~tron@201.247.88.96] has joined #kubuntu [03:35] hey tron === penguinboy smells Chinese food! [03:36] oh yah theres lots left [03:37] my wife and I have Chinese buffet every Saturday afternoon! [03:37] I need to hit the local Chinese buffet [03:37] mmm mmm good [03:37] mmm buffet [03:37] Some Pork Lo Mein and General Tso's Chicken would be excellent right now [03:37] mmm honey chicken! [03:37] Rat on a Stick! [03:37] if the generals chicken is spicy i'm down lol [03:38] lol [03:38] lol [03:38] <3 spicy food [03:38] because one day when i'm old, i won't be able to enjoy it [03:38] Chinese and Mexican are my favorite! [03:38] General Tso's and Pepper Chicken are what you need then, monchy [03:39] Try Thai Chicken too [03:39] Thai food is always spicyh [03:39] It's like the Cajun of Asian [03:39] yes ALWAYS [03:39] mm sounds good [03:39] fried bean curd! [03:39] Any varitey of noodle dish! [03:39] variety* [03:39] lots [03:39] and lots [03:40] It's hard for me to type while salivating [03:40] lol [03:40] lol [03:40] order out! [03:40] Too far to go, and I'm broke [03:40] okay...i've got the 1st Slack disc! [03:40] They don't deliver here, and it's in the next town [03:41] The really good Chinese is 45 minutes away [03:41] Sushi Bar!!! [03:41] don't like sushi :x [03:41] mmm mmm good [03:42] Sushi's all right [03:42] Had some in California [03:42] Laughed at the vegetarian sushi there [03:42] odd [03:43] I'm going to go away now and do something else before I get the compulsive urge to drive to New China Buffet [03:43] lol [03:43] you can do it! === marcelo [~marcelo@200.96.67.194] has joined #kubuntu [03:44] Hey Marcelo [03:45] okay here comes disc 2 [03:46] slackware going to be your main? [03:46] no.....just on my laptop [03:46] i like Kubuntu too much to drop it [03:46] you can;t beat apt-get [03:47] me and my full stomach agree with you [03:47] lol === mrmanic|afk is now known as mrmanic [03:47] i wish I could get Ubuntu on my lap [03:47] wb mrmanic [03:47] what would you use if there was a xubuntu though :p [03:48] xubuntu? [03:48] xfce-buntu [03:48] oh [03:48] they slackware folks in #slackware say that the Slack install should pick up my wireless....that is all I want...to have a 100% Linux Laptop [03:49] the slackware folks [03:51] hmmm === crimmy [~dtchen@rchp4.rochester.ibm.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:56] i think nmorse actually went to new china buffet lol [03:57] haha [03:57] he seems to possess a lot of Linux knowledge [03:58] yeah he's a smart guy, good to have around [03:58] It would be kewl to possess the knowledge to be able to build your own distro === ro28 [~rohan@210.49.249.142] has joined #kubuntu [04:00] welcoem ro28!!! [04:00] Hello penguinboy :-) [04:00] The Amazing Adventures of PenguinBoy...www.penguinboy.us [04:01] and orneryboy [04:01] oh yes....and orneryboy! [04:02] ;D [04:02] the ornerier the better [04:02] Advertising your blog on IRC? Shameful! :-) [04:02] sniff sniff === penguinboy feels so ashamed that he self promotes himself through www.penguinboy.us [04:03] lol [04:04] www.orneryboy.com [04:04] best comic evar === sbcl3 [~sbcl3@pcp0010826631pcs.coatsv01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:04] si [04:04] welceom sbc13 [04:04] The Amazing Adventures of PenguinBoy...www.penguinboy.us [04:05] www.orneryboy.com [04:05] i'm having problems getting kde 3.4.1... i've added "deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 main" to sources.list . What's wrong? [04:05] lol [04:05] the repositories are down [04:05] did you sudo apt-get update after etc etc etc [04:05] ok, some problems with xfce [04:06] 1) i want my desktop backgrounds to switch every five minutes as they do in KDE [04:06] 2) i want a clear panel and a taskbar that's integrated into the panel (again, like in KDE) [04:06] penguinboy: are you sure? the other ones aren't [04:06] so switch back to KDE [04:06] kalenedrael: So use KDE... :-) [04:06] lol [04:07] xfce is lightweight though [04:07] sbc13...they were down yesterday and the day before [04:07] yeah, i know [04:07] xfce uses less memory [04:07] not that i'm overly concerned about memory usage... [04:08] how much mem you got? [04:08] a gig [04:09] wowzer [04:09] if you see the place where you can install icon packs let me know -.- [04:09] does kde have any good chess apps? [04:09] can you apt-get shockwave???? === dewey [~dewey@c-67-168-51-149.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:12] welcome dewey!!! [04:13] i'm having a big problem. i installed koffice, but kiten doesn't work. at all. [04:13] it can't find "libkiten" [04:14] has anyone here gotten kiten to work through apt? [04:14] not me [04:15] did you try? [04:15] do you not like openoffice? [04:15] no [04:15] kiten.. is a japanese reference tool [04:15] as far as i know, ooo doesn't quite have that yet. [04:15] oh [04:15] (the rest of the koffice stuff worked fine) [04:15] and no, i don't like ooo [04:15] can you apt-get shockwave??? === Elsidox [~ej@CPE-69-76-103-192.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:32] is it just me or when you install and enable the nvidia driver your fonts and icons get really mest up? === penguinboy [~penguinbo@24.159.145.55] has joined #kubuntu [04:33] yay back from my hair cut :D [04:33] wonderful! [04:33] wb liz & penguin [04:33] :) [04:33] i just downloaded the 1st two Slacks [04:33] keep me updated, might want to try it out [04:34] k [04:34] liz I do not need 3 and 4? [04:34] no [04:34] is that source? [04:34] that guy was right... all of them have been down [04:34] yeah [04:34] just source [04:34] k [04:34] :( [04:34] when will they be back up? [04:34] what? [04:34] oh [04:35] repositories [04:35] are tehy? [04:35] they* [04:35] i would have thought they would be back up by now [04:35] still fubar [04:35] lol [04:36] it is burning iso time [04:36] good luck and don't use kodak cds >< [04:36] liz4rd, how do i get transparent menus and panel in xfce? [04:36] and how do i get it so that the taskbar is part of the panel? [04:36] oh god if i knew i would tell you :P i was tryting to find out my self today aswell [04:37] i dont think you can make it apart of it [04:37] i use the lil star icon box [04:37] its better [04:37] make sure to alwasy save your configureation when you exit xfce4 tho [04:37] ok [04:37] yeah [04:37] i'm using the brushed metal theme [04:38] \ [04:38] cool [04:38] when you download xfce themes or just gtk 2 themes [04:38] all you have to do is untar them into ~/.themes [04:38] same with icons [04:38] into ~/.icons [04:39] ok [04:39] how long does a slack install take? [04:39] whast your system specs [04:40] Laptop Centrino M Processor, 1.3 GhZ, 512 MB RAM [04:40] lil over 30 ,min [04:40] 1.7 GhZ [04:41] does it do extended install fromt eh net? [04:41] no [04:42] will you be here 30 more minutes> [04:42] yeah [04:42] all night [04:42] great [04:42] :D [04:42] my 1st iso is almost burnt [04:42] can it be done with k3b? [04:42] cool [04:42] blah none of my walls will change in xfce lol [04:42] no? [04:42] are they brown? [04:43] nope [04:43] whta color are tehy? [04:43] sometime gdm hate xfce [04:43] chartreuse [04:43] lol [04:43] are you on ubuntu or kubuntu [04:43] kubuntu of course [04:43] lol [04:44] :P [04:44] then i dont know [04:44] #xfce they know i had that problem before but i cant member [04:44] liz is a Gnome freak? [04:45] penquinboy: when your done installing your gonna have to know what to do once your loged in :P cuz it doesnt have a manager like other os's. With slack your in text mode untill you type " startx " [04:45] but after your done installing and logged it to root [04:45] type xorgconfig [04:45] once you complete that [04:45] type wmconfig and pick a WM [04:46] then after out of that [04:46] type startx [04:46] and BAM [04:46] insta slack [04:46] just like emeril [04:46] wm? [04:46] write this down :P [04:46] window manager [04:46] DUH [04:46] gnome , kde, XFCE4 :D [04:46] flux most common ones [04:47] none of those are wm's [04:47] ... [04:47] they're de's [04:47] explain [04:47] de == desktop environment [04:47] yeah [04:47] they have a window manager [04:47] but the command is wmconfig so.... [04:47] they aren't the window manager any more than kde is kwin [04:47] w/e you all know what i mean [04:48] excuse me while i take a chat [04:48] shat* [04:48] ^_^ [04:48] too much info [04:48] yes, way too much [04:48] not sure if gnome is still agnostic about wm's [04:49] kde pretty much assumes you use kwin. possible to use others, but not everything likes it [04:51] oops well i guess i didnt have to [04:51] lol sorry bout that [04:51] did you wash your hands? [04:51] i'll say bathroom next time [04:51] yes [04:51] good [04:51] is it wrong if i say i thought if you while i was washing them [04:51] XD jk [04:51] numero dos is a bunrin' [04:51] cool [04:52] lol [04:52] lol [04:52] lol [04:52] :D [04:52] 82% [04:52] did you take note of what i said? [04:52] si Senor [04:52] alright [04:53] 95% [04:53] :( the php upload script i downloaded doesnt work :( [04:53] 8( [04:53] it was for you guys to upload your sscreenshots :( [04:54] that would be nice [04:54] very nice [04:54] yeah it would if only it wasnt hateing my webhost [04:54] anyone wanna hook a loonix g33k up with some hosting? [04:54] lol...loonix ^_^ === rem_ [~rem@adsl-248-149-zh2.tiscali.ch] has joined #kubuntu === Consty [grimlock@63.146.73.44] has joined #kubuntu [04:55] my laptop is not letting me boot fromt he DVD === microhaxo [~microhaxo@c-24-118-7-234.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:56] After installing kubuntu and making a user, how do I go about using sudo and such because every time I try to I cant because it prompts for a password [04:56] use your username password [04:56] How am I supposed to add myself to sudoers if I dont have access to the sudoers file and such.. [04:56] it will prompt you [04:56] yo guys, i just installed kubuntu, I AM AMAZED, great little os, and im a windows user.. [04:56] GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [04:56] welcome :) [04:56] i want to know, how can i install ATI drivers? [04:56] to the darkside... [04:56] liz...I can;t boot fromt he DVD [04:56] you burnt a dvd? [04:56] wtf [04:57] no [04:57] what happend to cd-r's? [04:57] a cd in the DVD Drive [04:57] oh [04:57] .... [04:57] microhaxo: read this; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32495 [04:57] whast it saying? [04:57] liz4rd: was the username password created during installation automatically added to sudoers? [04:57] k thanks [04:57] either or it wont boot [04:57] Consty: yes [04:57] check bios [04:57] how? [04:57] ... you dont know how to get into your bios? === sirukin [~sirukin@64.247.151.242] has joined #kubuntu [04:57] so does kubuntu already have these drivers installeD? [04:58] Ati drivers i mean. [04:58] sirukin: hey man! [04:58] no I don;t...dont make fun of m [04:58] e [04:58] e? [04:58] i'm not.... [04:58] lol [04:58] oh [04:58] so.... [04:58] what make is your lappy again? [04:58] IBM Thinkpad R40 [04:58] like dell, compaq [04:58] ... [04:59] try pressing F10 or the Del key when your boothing up [04:59] or F1 [04:59] till you get in ther [04:59] there [04:59] hey liz [04:59] what's up? [04:59] f1 [04:59] nm helping people :) [04:59] BIOS Version 1.10 [04:59] then itsd F1 [04:59] yaya [04:59] ok [04:59] Does Kubuntu 5.04 have the latest ATI drivers installed? if so where can i check to see what drivers im usin / me is NEWBIE 100% [04:59] find something that lets you configure the boot order [05:00] of your disks liek the HD and cdrom and what not [05:00] tell it to boot the dvd drive first then the hd then maybe the floppy if any [05:00] microhaxo: lol nvidia loves linux bro [05:00] not ati [05:00] :D [05:01] well i love my X800 xt pe [05:01] ati will get it together eventually [05:01] do you hug it often [05:01] I have the follwoing options: Config, Date/Time, Security, Startup, and Restart [05:01] if it wouldnt shock me i would [05:01] the graphical installer was a good step taken [05:01] lol [05:01] penguinboy:try startup [05:01] tell me whats in there [05:01] lol, i just want the latest drivers runnin, is there some 3rd party tweaked ati drivers, i know for windows there are omegadrivers.. [05:01] boot and network [05:01] mmm [05:01] I"m out === sirukin [~sirukin@64.247.151.242] has left #kubuntu ["out"] [05:02] boot [05:02] yay [05:02] what? === juliagouser [~juliagous@pool-71-102-140-235.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:02] maybe he'll fall off the face of the planet [05:02] so no one wants to hook a loonix g33k up with some webhosting? [05:02] lol [05:02] and somehow end up on uranus [05:02] of course.. cuz thats the most likly place :P [05:03] ITS BOOTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [05:03] Anywho, i love this linux so far, but i want to have it configured, i have windows on my main HD so i will be using that also but i want this to have all the features so i dont have to go to windows.. [05:03] its loading the kernel!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 [05:03] penguinboy: OMG I'M GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [05:03] so, does this release kubuntu 5.04 have the latest ati drivers? [05:03] yes you are [05:04] :P i'm helping someone install slackware in #kubuntu :D [05:04] in short, no microhaxo, you have to download and install them yourself [05:04] anyone know how to change date and time? i try to enter my password but nothing happens from then on === panickedthumb [~travis@68.118.21.165] has joined #kubuntu [05:04] thanks [05:05] you may now login as root....slackware login:????? [05:05] type setup [05:05] do i type root [05:05] yewah [05:05] root [05:05] sorry [05:05] :P [05:06] i typed setup [05:06] then setup [05:06] lol guys, i get this error [05:06] the file blah atidriver8.14.run is a binary saving will result in it being corrupt? [05:06] do I partition? [05:07] yes [05:07] so will it corrupt it or do i just save it? [05:07] creata swap twice the size of your ram [05:07] with cfdisk or fdisk [05:07] and the rest for your / [05:07] cfdisk is my fav [05:07] so [05:07] cfdisk /dev/hda [05:07] or w/e your is called [05:07] does kubuntu support RTM's? [05:07] it is primary? [05:07] yea [05:08] make sure it says swap after it [05:08] anyone know how to change date and time from kde? i try to enter my password @ prompt but nothing happens from there [05:08] you got to change the type [05:08] to? [05:08] i think 82 is swap and 83 is ext3 [05:08] or 2 w/e is it [05:08] I have oen big primary linux partition at the moment...now what [05:09] eh, guys what do i open an rpm with? [05:09] ok make a new one [05:09] just click on it [05:09] i guess [05:09] it says open with [05:09] do I make the big one bootable? [05:09] hey sweet...i think the servers are no longer down [05:09] i was able to install abiword [05:09] make sure you sewt the size to only 1 GB [05:09] perhaps the others will work [05:10] yes [05:10] hey [05:10] it does not give me an option to create more [05:10] sould i delete this one and then create two more [05:10] one for / and one for swap? [05:11] yeah [05:11] but swap has to be first [05:11] so its faster if its at the beggining of your drive [05:11] how large [05:11] 1 gb [05:11] since you have 512 ram [05:11] is swap primary or logical [05:11] primary [05:12] do I make swap bootable? [05:12] ok after there should be something that says like for you to change the type of one you want [05:12] then it will display a list [05:12] yeah [05:13] how the F do you download the scripts from hotscripts.com? :P [05:13] okay..I have....hda1...primary...Linux Swap...1 GB and then Pri/Log...Free Space....26 Gig [05:13] quick question: what does "held packages" mean in kynaptic? [05:14] and for that matter, how do i just install them? [05:14] penguinboy: eek!!! delete all of them untill you have one and i shall tell you what to do [05:14] sbc...change to Synaptic....kynaptic is skrewy [05:14] okay....I now have one pri/log...free space partition with 36 gig [05:15] ok [05:15] now [05:15] create a new one [05:15] si [05:15] make it 1 gig [05:15] primary or logical [05:15] primary [05:15] not bootable [05:15] beginning or end [05:15] beggining [05:15] k [05:16] ok then go to type or someting [05:16] k [05:16] make swap? [05:16] yeah [05:16] k [05:16] now [05:17] ok now [05:17] for the rest of the space highlight it and create a new one [05:17] use the rest of that space [05:17] primary or w/e [05:17] bootable [05:17] primary or logical [05:17] primary [05:17] :P [05:17] do I let it use all space left? [05:18] yes [05:18] and bootable? [05:18] deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary main restricted <--- is something wrong with this line in sources.list? [05:18] yes [05:18] or is the server just down still? [05:18] k [05:18] done [05:18] sbcl3: respatories are down [05:18] now write? [05:18] yes [05:19] now quit? [05:19] yes === _nate__ [~nate@c66.168.31.134.mad.wi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:20] now do I reboot? [05:20] yeah [05:20] <_nate__> could anyone help me with configuring vsftpd? I have a few questions about users [05:20] will it boot back off of cd? [05:20] yes [05:20] yes [05:21] booting [05:21] :) === N17R0 [~n17r0@amf-zlh-90d6.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #kubuntu [05:21] now do I type setup? [05:21] <_nate__> does vsftpd only allow for local logins (using /etc/passwd) and anonymous logins? Or can I add virtual users for only the ftpd? [05:23] do I need to activate pcmcia devices, activate network devices, or start the main installation??? === homedad_ [~zippy@parax27-b142.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [05:23] hi there [05:23] hey [05:24] liz4rd? [05:24] how do i get a copy of kubuntu [05:24] oops sorry [05:24] download it [05:24] yeah [05:24] download the iso from linuxiso.org [05:24] or ubuntu [05:24] do I need to activate pcmcia devices, activate network devices, or start the main installation??? [05:24] yes [05:24] which...there are 3 options LOL [05:24] make sure you do a full install wehn promted [05:25] i dont have a cd burner [05:25] oooooh [05:25] ok, i can't seem to configure xfce properly [05:25] no you done have to [05:25] lol [05:25] kalenedrael: whast wrong...? [05:25] homeded go to ubuntulinux.org and reqest a CD [05:25] i registered for a free disc but it never came [05:25] same [05:25] lol [05:26] that was weeks ago [05:26] now I am on the Slack Linux Setup menu...I can Help, Keymap, Addswap, Target, Souurce, Select, Install, Configure, Exit [05:26] liz4rd: i think i already said [05:27] homedad it takes some time...I think it comes from South Africa or someplace [05:27] im using mepis right now but not entirely happy with it [05:27] no clear menubars, and i can't get the taskbar to be part of the panel === transgress [~transgres@24.181.89.246] has joined #kubuntu [05:28] i wonder if im going to have problems with the soundcard on ubuntu as well [05:28] do I set up my target partitions? Slect source media? Select categories of software to install? Install selcted software? or reconfigure my Linux system? [05:29] liz??? [05:29] i have that weird neo magic 256 card [05:29] penguinboy, calm down a bit [05:29] lol [05:29] you are trying to install slackware? [05:29] yes [05:29] um [05:29] i dont know [05:29] ok, well, you want to set up the partitions, i bet [05:29] lol i'm not staring at the screen [05:30] neither am i [05:30] he already did [05:30] oh [05:30] i helped him :) === microhaxo [~microhaxo@c-24-118-7-234.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === seth_k [~seth@24-117-104-21.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:30] ok guys, i have installed the ati drivers, however how can i check if its using them? [05:30] never mind...I will go with my gut instincts [05:31] ok :P [05:31] microhaxo: go into konsole and type glxgears [05:32] k === homedad_ [~zippy@parax27-b142.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has left #kubuntu [] [05:33] ahh how long does this run [05:33] ylol [05:33] i am now formatting [05:33] is your fps low? [05:33] yay! [05:33] 144 168 [05:34] 144,168? or just 144 lol [05:34] just 144 [05:34] and 168 [05:34] ok you can close it [05:34] so am i runnin ati drivers ? lol [05:34] not yet; http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=206829&postcount=87 [05:34] after you do all that it should be fine [05:34] aww [05:34] k [05:35] oh and to find out what kernel your running, uname -a in konsole [05:35] err [05:35] im using kubuntu 5.04 64 bit === microhaxo a newb and i get this error when i try to cd [05:36] bash: cd: /lib/modules/fglrx: No such file or directory === ToyMan [~stuq@user-12lcqur.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:37] alright i can't figure this wallpaper crap out [05:38] i installation underway [05:38] glxinfo | grep direct [05:38] eh, wrong channel [05:38] sorry [05:38] cool [05:38] thanks to you my friend [05:38] yo [05:39] i get this error [05:39] :) [05:39] bash: cd: /lib/modules/fglrx: No such file or directory [05:39] penguinboy: you got msn or ayhoo or aim or jabber or SOMETHING [05:40] mmmm [05:40] mmmm? tha tan IM program? :P jk [05:41] AIM...PenguinBoy42544 === monchy [~monchy@S010600e04c400007.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:41] wb monchy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [05:41] alright back to kde lol [05:42] lol [05:42] wtf wehen i top Xorg is taking all my CPU [05:42] wtf [05:42] xfce is nice, but i can't stare at that fricken cube anymore [05:42] lol [05:42] its easy to change [05:43] i beg to differ [05:43] need help? [05:43] installing the ati drivers was easier lol [05:43] lol === tuerten [~cosimo@CPE-203-45-13-91.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [05:43] brb [05:43] everyone [05:44] i just installed ATI drivers, it says REBOOT the system is recommended after running fglrxconfig [05:45] if it says reboot, then you should reboot :p [05:45] sudo: fglrxconfig: command not found [05:45] but it says i should run this command [05:45] but its not there? [05:46] sounds like nothing installed when you ran the ati installer oO [05:46] err [05:46] how [05:46] i see the ati linux logo [05:46] weird, maybe ask the folks in #ubuntu [05:47] ? [05:47] lol [05:47] kubuntu is pretty much the same so i don't see why not === kakalto [~kakalto@wired-210-54-56-153.ps.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu === liz4rd [~liz4rd@static24-72-76-248.regina.accesscomm.ca] has joined #kubuntu === liz4rd is back! [05:47] wb [05:48] ty === ijuz_ [~ijuz@p54AB886D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [05:49] o wherrrre or wherrrree has my little penquinboy gone? ooo where or where can he be.....? [05:49] ^_^ [05:50] penguin has left this server. remote closed the connection [05:50] dammit!!!! what a cunt [05:50] oops i mean [05:50] nice lil person [05:50] lol [05:50] trouble in paradise ;) [05:50] lol === les [~les@24.141.203.62] has joined #kubuntu === N17R0 [~n17r0@amf-zlh-90d6.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [06:06] Guys, im tryin to install ati drivers with these guide : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32495&highlight=ati+drivers === Kamping_Kaiser [~kaiser@ppp193-239.lns1.adl1.internode.on.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:06] im on step 3 [06:06] and that isnt a command? [06:06] sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf [06:06] be back, going to try something [06:06] step 1) instert nvidia card ^_^ [06:07] yea right [06:07] lol ATI wont get there shit together [06:07] i dont care, this is a problem with the os, i cannot use the command sudo gedit [06:07] this command i cannot do, so i cannot get past this.. [06:07] sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf [06:07] use pico [06:08] sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf [06:08] wait no [06:08] dont do that [06:08] or [06:08] lol [06:08] well yeah [06:08] no dont [06:08] wtf [06:08] ! [06:08] iwas thinkgin of xorgconfig [06:08] :P [06:08] what other command can i do to replace that? [06:08] no nothing [06:09] sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf [06:09] nano > pico [06:09] :P [06:10] same shit isnt it [06:10] ? [06:10] yeah, they're very similar. [06:10] yeah thought so [06:10] <_nate__> does anyone know if vsftpd from the repos has PAM support enabled? === monchy [~monchy@S010600e04c400007.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:10] hah tsunami watch for vancouver island [06:11] only 3 1/2 hours away from here [06:11] i dont get this.. [06:11] it shows [06:11] Section "Device" [06:11] Identifier "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon X800 (R420 JK)" [06:11] <_nate__> so. anyone know? or know how to figure it out? [06:11] but i only get 144 fps on the gear deal [06:12] are you upset? [06:12] ok liz, you said you know how to get wallpapers to work in xfce? [06:12] yeah... do you even know how to change them? [06:12] :P [06:13] no, it's not easy like kde lol [06:13] ok click the settings button on your panel [06:13] <_nate__> monchy, mine only worked if i didn't use kde utilities, weird huh? [06:13] the tools icon or w/e [06:13] that is weird nate [06:13] that might do it [06:13] ok i'm @ settings [06:13] _nate__ is an xfce user aswell? [06:13] ok click desktop [06:14] :) [06:14] do you see it? [06:14] how do i save that config [06:14] is it just the part where it says "show image" [06:14] ctrl x [06:14] then y for yes [06:14] then enter [06:14] BAM saved [06:14] <_nate__> I used to be one, but realized that gnome is fine for me [06:14] lol ewi [06:15] alright ill reboot now [06:15] monchy: under that it should say file with a place to select it [06:15] yeah, show image then i can browse for a replacement [06:16] that's it eh [06:16] yeah [06:16] :P [06:16] cool, thanks :) [06:17] i don't have to see the ugly cube anymore [06:17] yup [06:17] got jabber monchy? [06:17] wonder if that tsunami will hit [06:17] you live in canada? [06:17] yes [06:17] OMG SO DO I [06:17] :P [06:17] lol [06:17] in sask [06:18] british columbia, few hours away from van === sproingie lives in san francisco [06:18] tsunami warning has me spooked [06:18] thankfully on the 28th floor of my building on the EAST side of the city [06:18] that would suck if it happend [06:18] what if it's a big one @_@ [06:19] it could be like the day after tomorrow === liz4rd [~liz4rd@static24-72-76-248.regina.accesscomm.ca] has joined #kubuntu [06:24] AAHHHH i keep doing stupid shit to freeze my self [06:25] <_nate__> i found xfce was sorta freezy for me, but not at first [06:25] <_nate__> at first it was smokin fast [06:25] yeah it still is but i was runnign ALOT of stuff :P [06:26] c'mon news people now is not the time to be off air! [06:26] anyone know a _working_ repository where i can get koffice 1.4? [06:27] <_nate__> i only use vi [06:27] <_nate__> forget my instructors and their lame whining about "formats" [06:27] <_nate__> j/k ;P [06:32] oh good tsnami alert lifted [06:32] thast good [06:33] was a 7.0 magnitude quake that struck [06:34] oh liz4rd i only have msn and aim in my kopete [06:35] <_nate__> oh man i need to go to sleep [06:35] <_nate__> gnite everyone! :) [06:35] is openoffice.org _supposed_ to look really bad in kde? [06:36] it looks like someone tried to make a qt port for it but stopped half way through... === tuerten [~cosimo@CPE-203-45-13-91.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [06:42] ok i got the file upload script to work :D [06:42] i want to see your screenshots everyone [06:42] http://irclikelife.com/liz4rd/upload/ [06:42] username: public password: user [06:42] will these go on your site? [06:42] nah just for our provet use [06:42] or do you want them to [06:42] :P [06:43] provate* [06:43] private* === ztonzy [~ztonzy@ztonzy.artist.blender] has joined #kubuntu [06:43] well as long as we'd be posting screenshots lol [06:43] may as well use it to add activity to your forum :p [06:43] lol i only let it so you could only upload image files [06:43] nah this is hosted elsware [06:44] are you gonna upload one? :D i should aswell === Bachus9000 [~richard@12-222-49-29.client.insightBB.com] has joined #kubuntu [06:44] yeah uno momento [06:45] what :P? [06:45] 1 second lol [06:45] oh [06:45] :P [06:46] just trying to locate the take screenshot thing in xfce [06:46] lol [06:47] just run ksnapshot [06:47] i'm too used to gnome >< [06:47] lol [06:47] it's alright [06:48] anyway to make the stuff i download to /desktop actually show up on the desktop lol [06:49] xfce uses no icons [06:49] um see your bottum panel? [06:49] yea [06:49] right click on the file manager one [06:49] go properties [06:49] k [06:49] change the command to xffm [06:49] then close [06:50] then click it normally [06:50] done === lymz [~lymz@ip68-109-142-201.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:50] groovy [06:50] when you upload === tuerten [~cosimo@CPE-203-45-13-91.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [06:51] make sure to save the rename the file to monchy_whateverhere [06:51] .png or jpg or giff or bmp [06:51] gif* [06:51] now you tell me lol [06:52] lol sorry [06:52] dont worry about it [06:52] it's snapshot1.png [06:52] Anyone here familiar with acpi on laptops? [06:52] i'm making a theme for xfce [06:52] what specifically, Bachus9000? [06:52] SWEET [06:53] er, i'm modifying a theme [06:53] it looked nice but i wanted it flatter [06:53] lol [06:53] i'm not a fan of shadows and things that look really 3D on the desktop [06:53] monchy check there agian see what my screen looks like :D [06:54] kalenedrael: upload your screen man :) [06:54] one sec [06:54] http://irclikelife.com/liz4rd/upload/ [06:54] let me finish this [06:54] nice, i see you like dave lanhams stuff too [06:54] username: public password: user [06:54] yeah he's my hero [06:54] somatic should be ported over [06:54] i know [06:54] i love that icon set [06:54] theme,icons the works [06:54] yeah [06:55] he's a great artist [06:55] and i like that style of didgital art === liz4rd is a digital artist === sbcl3 is now known as sbcl3||-_-zZz [06:55] http://evasivx.bioviral.net :D [06:55] how'd you minimize the top taskbar like that [06:55] a screenshot from kde: http://www.kc0udt.com/kal/images/Temp/black-white-background.png [06:55] oh, that's from fedora core 3 [06:55] how gay... let me find a newer one [06:56] nah upload them to mine [06:56] so everyone can see [06:56] name it kalenedrael_screenshot.png for example [06:56] so we know whos it is [06:57] Well, I'm trying to get various acpi related things working on my laptop (Presario 2199US). The laptop has a "fn" key which does a couple things. 1) you can hold it down and use the right side of the keyboard as a number pad and 2) fn+f1 and fn+f2 dims and brightens the screen. Use 1 works fine but use 2 does not. I find this weird as this has worked without trouble in several distributions I've tried recently including Debian. : [06:57] ntu, but the response time is antagonizingly slow in those cases. === slicslak [~slicslak@S0106000f66e13f97.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:59] uploaded [06:59] that's KDE 3.4 on kubuntu === Kamping_Kaiser is now known as Kaiser_away [06:59] I'm also having "fun" problems with sleep and hibernation, but I'll worry about those in a bit. [07:00] with an eterm open and one of about 20 random background [07:00] s [07:00] Bachus9000, don't even try suspend/resume [07:00] sweet [07:00] how did you get your taskbar so small liz4rd? [07:00] how do you get the term completely transparent? [07:00] -0 -x === Octane [~octane@dsl092-100-149.nyc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:01] and a bunch of other options [07:01] monchy: member the settings button? [07:01] let's see [07:01] click it [07:01] kalenedrael: I've actually almost got hibernation working...so long as I stay at the console. [07:01] k [07:01] then go to xfce panel [07:01] k [07:02] -0 -x --buttonbar=no --scrollbar=no --font-fx none -g 135x52+700+0 -f white [07:02] cool i use aterm and i use: [07:02] the full command is "Eterm -0 -x --buttonbar=no --scrollbar=no --font-fx none -g 135x52+700+0 -f white" [07:02] aterm -tr -tint white -sh 40 -fg green +sb -fb monospace === newb [~ubuntu@CPE-203-45-13-91.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [07:04] hi guys, i got a problem with the sound set up. when i run the live disk the sound works. When i installed kubuntu it didn't auto-detect. can anyone suggest how i might save the sound settings to disk to transfer to the installed os? [07:05] ok [07:05] what sound card you got? === Riddell [jr@muse.19inch.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:05] i dunno, just about to ring the pc company i bought it from [07:06] should [07:06] you always need to know that [07:07] monchy: you have a messed up resalution :P [07:07] k, its an ac97 intergrated realtech [07:07] 1152 [07:07] newb: o god [07:07] any higher and i have to settle for 60hz, hurts my eyes [07:07] um..... [07:07] ah :( [07:07] anyone recommend a good sql browser [07:07] mysql browser that is [07:07] i dont notice anything and i'm on 60 hz [07:08] i installed kubuntu last week and it worked :S [07:08] yeah... [07:08] um [07:08] try this [07:08] sudo modprobe snd_ac97 [07:08] tell me if you hear sound when you play something [07:08] or if you get any errrors [07:09] k, im running live now so ill have to go back to the hd os. [07:09] ... [07:09] how dare you [07:09] :P jk [07:09] anothr little problem im having is that when im in "dos" i cant get to the gui [07:09] dos [07:09] LMFAO [07:09] type startx [07:09] im too retarded to even boot up the thing up [07:09] ah, thanks liz4rd [07:09] np [07:10] brb :D [07:10] ok [07:10] silly lil newbs [07:10] :P === newb [~ubuntu@CPE-203-45-13-91.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [07:10] :P [07:10] omg i'm more n00bish tho should here me in here some times " OMG HOW DO I DO THIS"!@!!!! [07:10] yeah it's anything below 72hz that's bad for your eyes and will make your eyes tired fast (had to look that up :p) [07:10] bullshit [07:10] never new that [07:11] actually, that's for CRTs [07:11] on LCDs the image persists longer and 60Hz is fine [07:11] i'm on a big white thing [07:11] that's probably a CRT, then [07:11] XD [07:11] lol [07:11] yeah [07:12] w/e i dont mide i run it on 1280x1024 cuz i like the resalution :P [07:12] OMG...where is everyone [07:12] i want more screenshots [07:12] :P [07:12] i'll just wait till the LCD's drop in price and then get a 19 inch [07:13] yeah good idea [07:13] you know how expensive computer parts are here lol [07:13] brb i changed the transparency for my terms [07:13] So no one has any ideas about my fn-key woes? === liz4rd [~liz4rd@static24-72-76-248.regina.accesscomm.ca] has joined #kubuntu [07:14] no i dont how much? [07:15] a puny 15 inch LCD is 400 bucks + tax [07:15] :O [07:15] that sucks man [07:16] yeah, go canada lol :( === ubuntu [~ubuntu@adsl-65-71-168-118.dsl.tpkaks.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:16] :P [07:16] what are some fun things to do in your term? [07:17] my term? oO [07:17] no i mean period [07:17] cause i'm bored out of my skull [07:17] if your old enough go to a bar [07:18] in my term? [07:18] :P === tuerten [~cosimo@CPE-203-45-13-91.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu === userbn [~userbn@202.150.68.114] has joined #kubuntu [07:18] no, just saying, if your bored, go to a bar [07:18] have some suicide hot wings w/ whisky sauce [07:18] & you won't be bored anymore [07:18] tuerten: I CAMAND YOU TO UPLOAD YOUR SCREENSHOT TO http://irclikelife.com/liz4rd/upload/ username: public password: user [07:19] command* [07:19] ma bad [07:19] mm just thinkin about those wings makes me hungry [07:19] i should get a short url or something [07:19] lol [07:19] mmm, its the newb back. i fixed my broken screen, and tried the sudo modprobe you told me [07:19] and? [07:20] reply was FATAL: Module snd ac97 not found === rideout [~rideout@adsl-69-232-238-122.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:20] fuck nuts [07:20] what was the ther part to your card? [07:20] realtek [07:20] or something [07:20] how do you spell it? === ds9bsd [~ds9@ASt-Lambert-102-1-2-218.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [07:21] yeah, realtek. its the brand [07:21] ds9bsd: I COMMAND YOU TO UPLOAD YOUR SCREENSHOT TO http://irclikelife.com/liz4rd/upload/ username: public password: user [07:21] try sudo modprobe snd_realtek [07:22] rideout: I COMMAND YOU TO UPLOAD YOUR SCREENSHOT TO http://irclikelife.com/liz4rd/upload/ username: public password: user ^_^ [07:22] lol [07:22] lol had to add the ^_^ [07:22] i'm just gonna be a penis and do this to everone who comes in here when i'm around :P [07:23] do it in #ubuntu ... if you dare! ;p [07:23] oh will i!!! [07:23] yeah, same thing but no realtek module [07:24] dam [07:24] mmm [07:24] you updated to 4.2.2 btw? [07:24] me? [07:24] sorry, liz4rd [07:25] liz4rd: mine's up [07:25] ok [07:25] wait, no it isn't [07:25] lol [07:25] tell me when [07:26] done [07:26] boring, no? [07:27] you have...A BIG MOTHER FUCKING DESKTOP MAN [07:27] yeah no shit lol [07:28] 1920x1280 [07:28] crikey [07:28] laptop though, so I have to make all the fonts really big to read anything, but dvds look great [07:30] i bet [07:30] #debian people are assholes [07:31] really, i would've pegged the gentoo people to be the jerky ones [07:31] ok brb [07:31] no one was an ass [07:32] another said ok === microhaxo [~microhaxo@c-24-118-7-234.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:32] hey micro [07:32] yo, whats the DEFAULT password for the ROOT shell? [07:32] this is pizzorin me off [07:32] lol [07:32] your username password ^_^ [07:32] sorry, liz4rd, any further ideas onthe sound card? [07:32] it doesnt work [07:33] i have installed these ati drivers and it made kde not run, the xorg config was FUBAR so i had to reinstall [07:33] lol [07:33] sorry try googling....? [07:33] microhaxo: try $ sudo su [07:33] no [07:33] mmm, sorry [07:33] sudo -s [07:33] then $ passwd [07:33] its sudo -s (then your username passwd) [07:33] it already says root [07:33] lol [07:33] but i wouldnt unlock the root account [07:33] dont need to enter password [07:34] I need to in order to isntall these DAMN drivers [07:34] unless someone wanna one on one tell me exactly how to do so. === monchy [~monchy@S010600e04c400007.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:35] k that didn't work lol [07:35] microhaxo: sudo -s (then your username passwor) [07:35] that should get you into your root [07:35] then run the commands from there [07:35] monchy: what are you playing around with? [07:35] updating to xfce 4.2.2 [07:36] microhaxo: what kernel are you running if you are using a kernel from main then the linux-restricted-modules-flavor should have the fglrx modules all set to go [07:36] im usin amd64 kernel [07:36] 2.6.? [07:36] yea [07:36] newest release [07:36] 5.04.2 [07:37] monchy: i think your already current [07:37] ok, so im followin this guide, but with updated driver rpm, i have converted it already to deb but i cant to this sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite [07:37] oh, were the 4.2.2 fixes backported? [07:37] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22496&highlight=ati+drivers [07:37] eh? === closure [~ubel@adsl-065-013-010-009.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:39] microhaxo: http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html === _jql [~jql@ip68-6-184-214.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === rideout [~rideout@adsl-69-232-238-122.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === _jql [~jql@ip68-6-184-214.sd.sd.cox.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [07:41] wtf is with eveyone using Konversation? [07:41] :P [07:42] liz4rd, i don't know anybody using it [07:42] lol i like it [07:43] -closure- VERSION xchat 2.4.3 Linux 2.6.10-5-386 [i686/448.20MHz] [07:43] whats your beef with konversation liz :p [07:43] nothing [07:43] just alot of people are using it [07:43] and its fugly [07:43] why not xchat or irssi or even BitchX? [07:43] :P === ikypakis [t11@195.245.229.17] has joined #Kubuntu [07:43] those are teh l337 [07:44] they all do the same thing [07:44] I COMMAND ikypakis TO UPLOAD YOUR SCREENSHOTS TO http://irclikelife.com/liz4rd/upload/ username: public password: user ^_^ [07:48] $hit! [07:48] monchy: what do you type to upgrade to 4.2.2? [07:48] what now microhaxo ? [07:48] you have to add debian repositories [07:49] i just went through the CONFIG deal fglrxconfig [07:49] and did all that [07:49] but now === lymz [~lymz@ip68-109-142-201.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:49] but they are safe for ubuntu, it's been tested [07:49] xorg.conf is BLANK and it says NEW [07:49] so if i reboot im FUBAR [07:49] right?! [07:49] XD [07:49] yup [07:49] ... [07:49] how the hell do i fix this [07:49] uh.... [07:50] google ^_^ [07:50] beh.. [07:50] i alwasy use google whne i have no answer to a question [07:50] :P [07:50] ok brb just want to see if it updated correctly [07:50] i needs help [07:50] lol [07:50] what if i give you mine? [07:50] sure? [07:50] and just change the part about the nvidia stuff [07:50] will it auto detect [07:50] and change it? [07:50] no [07:51] or wait i know [07:51] :D [07:51] ctrl + alt + F1 or F2 and type xorgconfig [07:51] then restart === jql [~jql@ip68-6-184-214.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:51] hi jql === rideout [~rideout@adsl-69-232-238-122.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:58] where the hell is monchy :( === monchy [~monchy@S010600e04c400007.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:02] OMG [08:02] I MISSED YOU [08:02] NEVER DO THIS TO ME AGIAN [08:02] ^_^ [08:02] penguin came back? [08:03] wtf? [08:03] no you [08:03] silly [08:03] oh lol [08:03] jeeze [08:03] so? [08:03] did it update [08:03] well, everything seemed to go fine, but it didnt change to 4.2.2 [08:03] why [08:04] i have no idea, i did the upgrade, it downloaded and installed perfectly [08:04] can you tell me the debian respo and where to instert it? [08:05] how can I format a hdd fat32? [08:05] liz4rd: http://www.os-works.com/view/debian/ [08:06] you'll have to authenticate the repositories, so go here after. http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptAuthenticationInstructionsForHoary [08:06] the key you need is: 0x8AC2C0A6 === Ghetek [~Ghetek@c-24-7-51-170.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:08] i have to input 5 passwords when the computer starts and that includes kde wallet... something is wrong here [08:09] lol [08:10] seriously! i have to input for kopete aim, kopete msn, kopete irc, gmail checker, kdewallet... === buz [~buz@80-218-107-8.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #kubuntu [08:10] yeah the wallet sucks for stuff like that [08:10] thats savage :P [08:10] just don't use it i say lol [08:10] sigh [08:10] kakalto: mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/hdxx [08:11] brb gonna go update to xfce4.2.2 [08:11] you might want to screw around with fdisk or parted first (sounds fun AND dangerous) [08:12] good luck liz [08:12] yeah good luck [08:12] rideout, thanks :)) [08:13] rideout, don't worry, it's a seperate disk === Ghetek finally got around to fixing the firefox update problem [08:14] kakalto: your welcome [08:14] yay! [08:14] I just need to transfer this disk to my proper compy [08:14] then I have an extra 76GB of space [08:15] yay! === Syedburns [~Sye@ip70-186-22-171.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === liz4rd [~liz4rd@static24-72-76-248.regina.accesscomm.ca] has joined #kubuntu [08:17] xfce4 is already the newest version. [08:17] WTF [08:17] oO [08:19] now what [08:19] i'm checking the backport forums to see if it was requested or done [08:19] Ghetek: I am just now firguring out my approach to stomp this bug https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92845 === microhaxo [~microhaxo@c-24-118-7-234.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:19] ok [08:19] ok... [08:19] installed [08:20] what is [08:20] i have an ATI controle panel deal but when i select it i it dont load [08:20] lol [08:20] how do i save xorg.conf file in the shell again ? [08:21] using pico? [08:21] liz4rd: do you use /etc/apt/preferences ? [08:21] yea [08:21] ctrl x then y for yes then enter [08:21] control-x to exit nano/pico and y to say yes [08:21] for save [08:21] k [08:22] aight i edited it [08:22] img onna reboot [08:22] k === microhaxo [~microhaxo@c-24-118-7-234.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:24] aight [08:24] i did everything === monchy [~monchy@S010600e04c400007.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:24] cool? [08:24] yay monchy!!! [08:24] i have an ati control pannel, but when i select it it loads for ever and it doesnt pop up. [08:25] whats the command to run that gears program to see my ftps? [08:25] aha [08:26] ok, go into (k)synaptic liz4rd [08:26] search for xfld-desktop [08:26] current version should be 4.2.1.1-2 and should be upgradable === _kakalto [~kakalto@wired-210-54-56-153.ps.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu [08:27] microhaxo: fgl_glxgears, but try fglrxinfo first to see if you are actually using the driver [08:27] both those arnt found... === kakalto [~kakalto@wired-210-54-56-153.ps.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu [08:27] wha [08:27] yeah i know [08:27] what about searching for xfce [08:27] wtf guys, im only getting like 144 fps in glxgears.. [08:29] micro get used to ati drivers being this difficult lol [08:29] microhaxo: what do you get for dmesg | grep mtrr === _kaz [~kaz@c-67-169-234-208.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === _kaz [~kaz@c-67-169-234-208.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu [] [08:30] here goes... [08:30] wish luck, guys [08:30] luck [08:31] grr.. [08:31] case won't even come off [08:31] this is CRAP! fglrxinfo mesa! [08:32] microhaxo: what is the output of $cat /proc/mtrr [08:33] brb gonna go see if xfce works [08:34] rideout how the hell do i get the output of that? [08:34] im new [08:34] brand new [08:34] microhaxo: ok, open konsole to get the cli [08:35] then cut and paste the following "cat /proc/mtrr" [08:35] is there any problems with making a cd drive a slave to a hdd? [08:35] cat just outputs the text of a file [08:35] it's been a while since I messed with this stuff === liz4rd [~liz4rd@static24-72-76-248.regina.accesscomm.ca] has joined #kubuntu [08:36] meh fuck it [08:36] the current xfce is fine === monchy [~monchy@S010600e04c400007.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:36] hey [08:36] so? [08:36] i tryed [08:36] microhaxo: i'm guessing you have one of the most common problems with ati binary drivers, discussed here http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=33736241 [08:36] said it installed [08:36] but no version change [08:37] still says 4.2.1-1 but according to (k)synaptic i'm already updated lol [08:37] yeah :P [08:37] so i guess were updated and that just never changed oO [08:37] lol yeah [08:38] sudo xfce4-panel --version [08:38] thast still fucked [08:38] microhaxo: basicaly ubuntu is reserving the video ram of your card for the framebuffer (the screen when you boot up) and it set it to use less memory than your card [08:38] mine was set to 16 mb for a 128mb card [08:40] liz4rd: how is xfce4 (the old version anyway ;) I was thinking of putting it on an old thinkbook I just got. That or fluxbox [08:40] its sweet [08:40] runs really fast [08:40] nice and fast [08:40] what he said [08:40] :P [08:41] and the rodent is fun to look at [08:41] lol yeah [08:41] mice are tasty creatures [08:41] ew [08:41] ewie [08:42] oh, come on, your handle is lizard for zeus sake [08:43] monchy...use any IM clients? [08:43] lol mice are diff [08:43] kopete [08:43] yes i know it sucks [08:43] guys [08:43] when i ctrl alt F2 out how can i come back? [08:44] oops i ment do you use like msn or jabber and what not [08:44] oh, yeah i use msn & aim on it [08:44] microhaxo: startx... i think [08:44] it says session already blah [08:44] no [08:44] can i have your msn? [08:44] alt fx-6 or something [08:44] fx? [08:44] oh [08:44] yea [08:44] l [08:44] wtf [08:44] k [08:44] there, in pm [08:45] try the alt-F6 or alt-F7 [08:45] it switches between all the ttys fore each f-key [08:49] in x though you need to control-alt === Somez [~somez@127.147-182-adsl-pool.axelero.hu] has joined #kubuntu [08:51] wth [08:51] my printer will print a TEST PAGE [08:51] but wont print anything else [08:51] lol [08:51] oh where is he? someone's gonna pay [08:51] LMFAO [08:51] who's messing with my man? [08:51] sleeping :( [08:51] dont hurt him [08:52] lol [08:52] sleeping... that's the best time... that scream of surprise., [08:52] i swear it'll be over tomorrow [08:52] first my girlfriend... now you too! that's it. === transgress grabs the AK [08:52] damn i swear, linux is HARD... [08:52] linux is hard? you should try finding someone who doesn't cheat! [08:53] that's hard. [08:53] omg no you didnt [08:53] anyway... off to hurt and maul someone. [08:53] :( ok [08:53] kiss and make up [08:53] microhaxo: let me get you a link to some good startup tutorials === Ghetek [~Ghetek@c-24-7-51-170.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu ["bye] === liz4rd tackels transgress [08:54] I cheat [08:54] I cheat at pretty much every game I play [08:54] :O oh no you didnt [08:54] I cheated at half life 2 [08:54] :o [08:54] that's blasphemy [08:54] microhaxo: http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Teaching/Unix/ and http://www.sloppycode.net/nix/ [08:54] #kubuntu...whereall the saps come to confess === kakalto [~kakalto@wired-210-54-56-72.ps.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu [08:55] I did it, *sob*, and I am sooo sorry... [08:55] LMFAO! [08:55] alright now everyone fess up [08:55] SAy guys [08:55] uhmm... [08:55] guys [08:55] my xorg.conf is saved at my home, could this be why my ati drivers ant workin? lol [08:55] OMG I'M TEH L337!! [08:55] where would i find modules.conf? [08:55] should i move it to etc and shiz? [08:56] tuerten: [08:56] i'll help you out [08:56] microhaxo: YES! [08:56] at /etc/X11/xorg.conf [08:56] hhahaha [08:56] im slow [08:56] k [08:56] tuerten: /etc/modules [08:56] ill move it there [08:57] modules is a file [08:57] err [08:57] i cant go there [08:57] file://etc/x11 [08:58] ta [08:58] ? [08:58] microhaxo: at the command prompt $sudo mv /home/user/xorg.conf /etc/X11/. [08:58] woa woah [08:58] its there [08:59] but when i go to edit it in shelll [08:59] lmao [08:59] it says new [08:59] and its blank [08:59] you need root permissions [08:59] the file /etc/modues.conf says it is a new file? [08:59] to edit [08:59] no no no [08:59] tuerten: just /etc/modules [08:59] its a file [08:59] tuerten: debian based systems don't use modules.conf [08:59] Ok, this is whats FUBAR, mk.. i have viewed this xorg.conf, and it has ALL MY ATI stuff, however i still am gettin shitty ass stuff in the xgears deal [08:59] k cool, thanks [09:00] microhaxo: you need to restart the x server [09:00] OMG DAY CHANGED [09:00] hehe [09:00] two hours ago [09:00] loony [09:00] 19 hours ago [09:00] can't tell time [09:00] :PP [09:00] well this server is on a diff time [09:00] tuerten: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/modules.html [09:01] i don't believe you [09:01] its cuz i cheated isnt it [09:01] CHEATER!!! === liz4rd puts head down in shame [09:01] lol i bet penquinboy would be freaked out not knowing whast going on :P [09:02] hey, now I get to show my great weakness, How do you do actions in IRC some /command ? [09:03] Why the hell wont my printer print out a web page? [09:03] does it print other things? [09:03] can I use a wary livecd to install grub to the MBR? [09:03] oh nvm [09:04] BBL [09:04] rideout: /me whatever text here [09:04] oh don't you mention his name to me === rideout awakes to new world of fun [09:04] awesome [09:04] there will be no penquinboy soon [09:04] yeah ,man [09:04] welcome === transgress is brandishing an ax [09:04] transgress: OMG DONT [09:05] the next step says to "turn on sound support", is that necessary? [09:05] YES [09:05] next step in what? [09:05] Transgress POOP William potter!!! you stop this instant [09:05] because i don't know what you're talking about [09:05] liz4rd tell him about the wedding you had planned [09:05] what is he talking about chris? [09:05] sshhh [09:05] tell me! [09:05] nooo [09:06] monchy: WHYYYYYY!!!! [09:06] ;p [09:06] lmfao @ Transgress POOP William potter [09:06] i don't get that ... umm i'm sorry [09:06] its your full name [09:06] you douce [09:06] douche* [09:06] i'm installing sound drivers for a realtek sound card that wasn't auto-detectd [09:06] sweet [09:07] bout time eh [09:07] what did you put in modules [09:07] ? [09:07] i had to put snd_sb16 for my sound card [09:07] haven't changed it yet, i think thats a few steps ahead [09:07] ok [09:07] i am not a feminine hygeine product [09:07] you watch your mouth [09:07] Ok here is the deal.. [09:07] i do this: [09:07] :O [09:08] :( monchy...i didnt wanty to say but..transgress beats me *crys* [09:08] it's cries! how many times do i have to tell you!? [09:08] maybe you deserve it :p === transgress pulls off shoe and starts swinging [09:08] OMG dont do it :( [09:08] cd /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod then i do command sh make.sh [09:08] i get error with ati deal [09:09] microhaxo: you are trying to install a radeon card? [09:09] lol sorry got to go later guys [09:09] \me pours salt in liz4rd's wound [09:09] a driver [09:09] for it [09:09] yea [09:09] and its makin me mad [09:09] lol [09:09] thanks lizard [09:09] np man [09:09] dude why don't you just pull it from apt? [09:09] NIGHT EVERYONE [09:09] i have no idea how to do so :| [09:09] can yo walk meh through [09:09] microhaxo: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto === liz4rd is now known as liz4rd|Transgres === liz4rd|Transgres is now known as liz4rd|cheese === rideout [~rideout@adsl-69-232-238-122.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [09:11] err [09:11] Errors were encountered while processing: [09:11] /var/cache/apt/archives/xorg-driver-fglrx_6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu11_amd64.deb [09:11] E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) [09:11] ? === kakalto [~kakalto@wired-210-54-56-72.ps.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu [09:12] yay [09:13] brb === liz4rd|cheese is now known as liz4rd|lime === liz4rd|lime is now known as liz4rd|kiwi === liz4rd|kiwi is now known as liz4rd|zZz === microhaxo [~microhaxo@c-24-118-7-234.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:15] eh === knet [~dtaylor@dsl-210-15-250-66.NSW.netspace.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [09:16] whats the command to view what gfx driver im usin [09:16] I have an extra 76GB :D [09:17] microhaxo: glxinfo [09:17] microhaxo: or if you installed fglrx then try fglrxinfo [09:17] and in the next few days, I'll likely get more and more [09:17] wtf [09:17] fglrxinfo: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [09:20] did you follow the instructions on the page i sent you to? [09:20] -all- of the instructions [09:21] Yes [09:21] all of em [09:21] lol [09:21] i get an error [09:21] when trying to install [09:21] want it? [09:21] when you try apt-get install xorg-fglrx or whatever it's called? [09:22] yea [09:22] rrors were encountered while processing: [09:22] /var/cache/apt/archives/xorg-driver-fglrx_6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu11_amd64.deb [09:22] E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) [09:22] hmm [09:22] got me beat on that one [09:22] i don't have a clue [09:22] :| [09:22] and i'ma go take a shower [09:22] not kew; [09:22] sorry [09:22] lol [09:22] ask in #ubuntu [09:23] more people in there and probably someone who might can help === tuerten [~cosimo@CPE-203-45-13-91.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu === darwin [~gandalv@port-212-202-13-182.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu === eXhumed [~papercut@208.53.170.44] has joined #kubuntu === _linkin_ [user@Ea07f.e.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #kubuntu === shogouki [~nicolas@moreau.lirmm.fr] has joined #kubuntu === tuerten [~cosimo@CPE-203-45-13-91.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [09:37] heh. gotta a silly question [09:38] kynaptic has three buttons. refresh. upgrade all packages. no.3 commit changes [09:38] when i click 'commit changes' there is no button to make the changes. === _linkin_ [user@Ea07f.e.strato-dslnet.de] has left #kubuntu [] [09:41] ah, sorry there is no problem. im just retarded. sorry [09:41] well okay then === Kaiser_away is now known as Kamping_Kaiser [09:42] its just the button wasn't in the window when it was small. when i made the window bigger i saw the button. [09:42] :S === reinaldo [~reinaldo@pc-33-216-104-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:45] thanks for all your help guys :D have a good one, bye === eXhumed [~papercut@208.53.170.44] has joined #kubuntu === reinaldo [~reinaldo@pc-33-216-104-200.cm.vtr.net] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === ukato [~trey@ip24-251-109-39.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === weedar [~weedar@230.80-202-220.nextgentel.com] has joined #kubuntu [10:44] lol guys, NEED MAJOR HELP with these ati drivers, apparently i have no kernel header fileS? === otep [~otep@AP-203.167.31.158.sysads.com] has joined #kubuntu === Syedburns [~Sye@ip70-186-22-171.ma.dl.cox.net] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [10:50] what would be the easiest way to get everything from GNOME off my box? [10:52] Someone please tell me how to install my ATI drivers [10:56] <_doneill> is there a right-hand-dvorak layout immediately installable? [10:56] <_doneill> all i can use is dvorak, and it doesn't seem to have a 'right' in the variants list [10:56] <_doneill> (or left, for that matter) === microhaxo [~microhaxo@c-24-118-7-234.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:58] Guys i needs help [10:58] #ubuntu === Kamping_Kaiser is now known as Kaiser_essen === UdontKnow [udontknow@udontknow.staff.freenode] has joined #Kubuntu === microhaxo [~microhaxo@c-24-118-7-234.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:17] <_doneill> okay [11:17] <_doneill> i just mapped it myself :/ === otep [~otep@AP-203.167.31.158.sysads.com] has joined #kubuntu [11:20] #ubuntu === widodo [~widodo@dsl-53.230-144.indo.net.id] has joined #kubuntu === widodo is now known as si_tampan_s === microhaxo [~microhaxo@c-24-118-7-234.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === microhaxo [~microhaxo@c-24-118-7-234.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === FireEgl [Ariel@2001:5c0:84dc:1:2a0:c9ff:fee9:52bc] has joined #Kubuntu === Kaiser_essen is now known as Kamping_Kaiser === bisley [~bisley@85.57.3.222] has joined #kubuntu === widodo [~widodo@dsl-53.230-144.indo.net.id] has joined #kubuntu === Consty [grimlock@63.146.73.44] has joined #kubuntu === pointwood [~pointwood@212.242.222.232] has joined #kubuntu === widodo is now known as adAm === adAm is now known as widodo === microhaxo [~microhaxo@c-24-118-7-234.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === tblakers [~tblakers@203.201.96.151] has joined #kubuntu === Kamping_Kaiser [~kaiser@ppp193-239.lns1.adl1.internode.on.net] has joined #kubuntu === widodo is now known as adAm === tblakers [~tblakers@203.201.96.151] has joined #kubuntu === microhaxo [~microhaxo@c-24-118-7-234.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === microhaxo [~microhaxo@c-24-118-7-234.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === mindspin [~mindspin@p54B2E8A6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === HavoK [~Dark@host-84-222-203-158.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #kubuntu === roadie [~roadie@pcp09275706pcs.midltn01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === roadie is now known as thunderdawg === hussam [~hussam@194.126.31.19] has joined #kubuntu [12:52] I've been building firefox from cvs on aviary branch. Other than compiler cpu optimizations such as -O2, are there any performace patches to make firefox faster on linux? It seems a bit faster on windows than on linux. === insanekane [~kane@202.83.46.176] has joined #kubuntu === mindspin [~mindspin@p54B2E8A6.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === UdontKnow [udontknow@udontknow.staff.freenode] has left #Kubuntu [] === plastbanan [~per@regulus3.student.UU.SE] has joined #Kubuntu === incubii [~incubii@61.68.51.26] has joined #kubuntu === roger [~roger@106.Red-83-39-99.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === jjesse [~jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu === _jjesse [~jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu === ztonzy [~ztonzy@ztonzy.artist.blender] has joined #kubuntu === Consty [grimlock@63.146.73.44] has joined #kubuntu === Heart| [~jzdgc@p549C2108.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [02:38] hi [02:38] wie startet man den konqueror aus einem root-terminal aber "(nicht mit sudo!!!)"? === Octane [~octane@dsl092-100-149.nyc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu === migma [migma@210.213.245.64] has joined #kubuntu === migma [migma@210.213.245.64] has left #kubuntu [] === da_bon_bon [da_bon_bon@dabonbon-0000001.user] has joined #kubuntu [02:55] hi all [02:55] anyone here ? [02:56] nope [02:56] Tm_T: lol [02:57] oh english channel i forget... my question was: how can i start konqueror from a root-terminal ("not with sudo!!!)? [02:57] actually, i wanted to say, anyone from india here ? [02:57] Heart|: konqueror [02:57] ? [02:59] only "konqueror" gives me not root rights!?! [02:59] yes [02:59] if started from root term === DeadStar [~DeadStar@82.208.146.179] has joined #kubuntu === CruNcher [~lulu_lol@dsl-084-058-145-098.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:04] yes, but how to come in a root-terminal in kubuntu? [03:04] su dont works [03:04] sudo su and then konq. or what to do? [03:05] if you want to enable root.. type sudo passwd root [03:06] ok and then i can use su === da_bon_bon [da_bon_bon@dabonbon-0000001.user] has left #kubuntu [] [03:06] yep === gideon [~gideon@svi.cs.hro.nl] has joined #kubuntu [03:08] one problem i have with kubuntu is that xorg have 20-25% cpu load <-- that's too much i think...normally it should be sth. like 0-2%, shouldn't it? [03:14] hmm.. mine is smt 2%..or less === jeramy [~jeramy@ottawa-hs-206-191-28-29.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #kubuntu [03:46] Hi. I am using kubuntu on my laptop (Acer 4502WLMI) and I got a problem that my harddrive seem to spin down all the time. So when an application starts reading the drive is like a 2 sec startup.. I tried setting the hdparm but it does not work.. any sugestions? === _sbcl3 [~sbcl3@pcp0010826631pcs.coatsv01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === Mez [~Mez@82-36-228-130.cable.ubr01.perr.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === _kaz [~kaz@c-67-169-234-208.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === tuni_ [~tuni@AFontenayssB-151-1-7-59.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu === mikl [~mikkel@mikl.active.supporter.pdpc] has joined #kubuntu [04:23] <_kaz> is there an icon or something that pops up to alert the user of pending updates like in ubuntu? === tuni_ [~tuni@AFontenayssB-151-1-7-59.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu === wizzard [wizzard@chello082119114125.chello.sk] has joined #kubuntu [04:24] <_sbcl3> can i get 00o 2 from a repository? === _system [~system@59.93.167.73] has joined #kubuntu [04:25] <_sbcl3> yay; i can === _system is now known as nonick_ === Consty [grimlock@63.146.73.44] has joined #kubuntu === sproingie [~chuck@64-121-15-14.c3-0.sfrn-ubr8.sfrn.ca.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:34] <_sbcl3> how do i make an iso image with k3b? === ilba7r [~ilba7r@d141-64-4.home.cgocable.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:46] i have a problem with kpdf. when i read files with kghostview i can see it but with kpdf i do not see anything just empty pages [04:49] ilba7r: asre u viewing a pdf or a ps file ? [04:50] pdf [04:50] produced by cups-pdf === LuNaTiK^GuY [LuNaTiK_Gu@213.217.250.186] has joined #kubuntu === serban [~serban@213-156-52-120.fastres.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:53] hey ppl, i just installed kubunutu...and after it configures my system and updates etc etc....it gets to a black/white screen with a moveable cursor and stays there === neoxxx [~neoxxx@193.77.143.75] has joined #kubuntu === neoxxx is now known as belatrixxx === belatrixxx [~neoxxx@193.77.143.75] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [04:55] any help? === neoxxx [~neoxxx@193.77.143.75] has joined #kubuntu === Mez [~Mez@82-36-228-130.cable.ubr01.perr.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === _ubuntu [~ubuntu@farmos-205.farmos.tvnet.hu] has joined #kubuntu [05:04] hello??! [05:04] hm [05:05] looks like it doesn't start your DM === MoreFX [~christian@H8cc6.h.pppool.de] has joined #kubuntu [05:06] what can i do? [05:06] good question [05:07] :) [05:07] check if there's KDM installed [05:07] erm.....wait....i'm a total newbie [05:07] press ctrl-alt-F2 [05:07] i know KDM is a desktop manager ok [05:07] yes i did access the console [05:07] ok [05:07] (tried to) [05:07] it didnt get to the console [05:07] then try this: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop [05:07] " [05:08] ah? [05:08] is it ppc? [05:08] no [05:08] intel [05:08] ok [05:08] when i tried ctrl+alt+f2, f3, f4 [05:08] nutting happened [05:08] so you can't get access to console? [05:09] no [05:09] great... [05:09] :) [05:09] i was expecting a nice blue (favourite colour) desktop :) [05:09] what abt ctrl+alt+f1 ? [05:09] nuttin [05:09] ;) === wizzard [wizzard@chello082119114125.chello.sk] has joined #kubuntu [05:09] also, u can shut down the X server using ctrl+alt+bksp [05:10] neither [05:10] have you checked that grub or lilo is setup ok? [05:10] yes [05:10] i actually used grub to boot to kubuntu [05:10] coz i'm dualbooting [05:10] it works fine [05:11] but does it boot kubuntu ok? [05:11] yes.....i get these fast moving messages....then the screen changes vga mode...it gets to a grey/black screen...with the mouse showing and stops there [05:12] i can still move the mouse though) [05:13] Is it the standard X environment? [05:13] i should think so.....its what got installed off the cd [05:13] i didnt touch anything yet [05:14] but it looks like X yes === incubii [~incubii@61.68.51.26] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === N17R0 [~dhyfbs@amf-zlh-90d6.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #kubuntu [05:16] check the settings for the x-server.. It seems to be something wrong there.. [05:16] i cant [05:16] i cant even get to the console [05:16] well, if your keyboard works, then ctrl+alt+bksp should shut down the server and ctrl+alt+fx should switch to console [05:16] I had a similar problem [05:16] and i wouldnt know wot to check eiether ;) === kalandor [~kalandor@194.102.128.182] has joined #kubuntu [05:16] i'm a beginner [05:16] it was the graphic driver of X [05:16] there is only other method ... change the runlevel ... and setup X again from console [05:17] LuNaTiK^GuY: when u get to grub ... move the correct line, press 'e' on the keyboard [05:17] you might want to change the driver in xorg.conf to "vesa" an try again [05:17] LuNaTiK^GuY: go to the kernel line, and press 'e' again ... and at the end type init=3 ... press enter [05:18] LuNaTiK^GuY: followed by 'b' ... this should take u into single-user mode in console and allow you to reconfigure the xserver [05:18] LuNaTiK^GuY: to reconfigure the X Server, do this: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [05:18] ok....i should get to the console....... [05:18] LuNaTiK^GuY: answer the questions ... and when u come back to console ... type startx to start the x server again ... if there are any problems, note the output and come back here [05:19] LuNaTiK^GuY: in general, as MoreFX said, the 'vesa' driver should work [05:20] lemme try the configuration [05:20] LuNaTiK^GuY: so, note down the steps above, and try them [05:20] yes i wrote them down [05:20] 10ks alot [05:21] lemme go try it out [05:21] :) [05:21] "I'll be back" === omni_lonnie [~lonnie@208.205.125.112] has joined #kubuntu === alexbr [~alexbr@62.211.178.159] has joined #kubuntu === FireEgl [Ariel@2001:5c0:84dc:1:2a0:c9ff:fee9:52bc] has joined #Kubuntu === Mez [~Mez@82-36-228-130.cable.ubr01.perr.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === prathyush [~prathyush@220.227.177.205] has joined #kubuntu === ikypakis [t4@195.245.229.17] has joined #Kubuntu === _root [~root@213.217.250.46] has joined #kubuntu === prathyush [~prathyush@220.227.177.205] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === _root is now known as LuNaTiK^GuY [05:39] hey ppl [05:39] i managed to fix it ;) [05:39] i'm on vesa now === shogouki [~nicolas@AMontpellier-251-1-56-126.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu === dutch [~dutch@cpe-065-190-182-028.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:42] LuNaTiK^GuY: so it worked ? [05:43] yes [05:43] LuNaTiK^GuY: did you have to anything else other than my instructions to make it work? [05:43] no [05:43] ok good [05:43] it all went fine [05:43] :) [05:43] 10ks a lot [05:43] np [05:43] there's one thing i want to configure at first sight now.... [05:43] the fonts are a bit large overall [05:43] is there a way to reduce them in size? [05:43] seems like we need some display testing mechanism to switch to vesa automatically or something [05:44] LuNaTiK^GuY: yes Control Centre -> Appearance -> Fonts [05:44] thanks === MoreFX [~christian@H8cc6.h.pppool.de] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [05:44] LuNaTiK^GuY: it is also quite possible that your resolution might be too low [05:44] LuNaTiK^GuY: you can change than via the dpkg-reconfigure route [05:44] 1024*768 [05:44] for a 17 inch [05:44] hmm thats seems to be ok [05:44] so then change ur fonts [05:45] i'm used to windows...so at first sight everything looked so large......but they're very clear too ;) [05:45] ok === efiloN [~erki@125.246.216.81.nykop.siwnet.net] has joined #kubuntu === BROKEN_LADDER [~pral@h-68-164-186-228.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #KUBUNTU === gentonix [~toni@poirot.yok.utu.fi] has joined #kubuntu === gentonix [~toni@poirot.yok.utu.fi] has left #kubuntu ["Lhdss"] === gentonix [~toni@poirot.yok.utu.fi] has joined #kubuntu === spiral [~spiral@lafilaire-4-82-224-249-43.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:58] hi [05:59] hi === bhna [~andreas@p54B80064.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === __Ace__ [~love@h55l211.delphi.afb.lu.se] has joined #kubuntu === Heart_ [~heart@p549C2D80.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [06:10] <_sbcl3> when i open kynaptic i get this error: [06:10] <_sbcl3> "Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)" [06:10] <_sbcl3> what's that mean? === mmport80 [~john@212.2.177.247] has joined #kubuntu [06:14] _sbcl3: have you synaptic or apt-get open? [06:14] hi all, i want to know how i can load the hci_hcd module with specific params at boot up? [06:15] ehci_hcd isn't in the /etc/modules file, so that's thrown me off a bit [06:16] <_sbcl3> bhna: ya. figured it out [06:17] _sbcl3: ok ;-) === dutch [~dutch@cpe-065-190-182-028.nc.res.rr.com] has left #kubuntu [] === jjesse [~jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu === mmport80 [~john@212.2.177.247] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] === Otrayo [~Kinus@wbs-146-151-184.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu === KaiL_hoary [~kl@p548F5A02.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === kinus [~kinus@wbs-146-151-184.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu === kinus is now known as Otrayo === insanekane [~kane@202.83.46.176] has joined #kubuntu === _root [~root@213.217.250.46] has joined #kubuntu [06:29] <_root> where is the console in kubuntu...ie how do i start the console from the start menu? === _root is now known as LuNaTiK^GuY [06:29] <_sbcl3> Konsole [06:29] LuNaTiK^GuY: System -> Terminal Program (Konsole) [06:29] wow [06:30] i missed it [06:30] :) [06:30] sorry [06:30] <_sbcl3> are you logged in as root??? [06:30] yes [06:30] LuNaTiK^GuY: very bad thing! [06:30] thats a security issue for yourself, and in this interconnected world, others [06:30] :( [06:31] LuNaTiK^GuY: in kubuntu, the best way is ... login as the user (lunatik, say), and whenever u need root priveleges to execute something, use sudo [06:31] or kdesu [06:31] oh ic [06:31] now [06:31] another issue [06:32] LuNaTiK^GuY: in general, the applications/config modules that need root, usually ask for it (by excuting kdesu themselves) [06:32] sound works well...coz i get all the kde sounds [06:32] but [06:32] althogh the cd seems to be playing...i dont get sound [06:32] audiocd i think require something more ?? [06:32] does it play on windows ? [06:33] yes sure [06:33] on the standard media player [06:33] ok, did u check the mixer settings for the audio cd output ? [06:34] i am in Kmix [06:34] and thers isnt cd output [06:34] LuNaTiK^GuY: well, there is some advanced settings and volume controls and things like that ... i dont have sound atm so i cant tell u exactly [06:35] if i upgraded kde to 3.4.1 with "deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary-updates main" in the sources.list... [06:35] do i have to leave this source in the sources.list? [06:35] Heart_: well, its a good idea if you want to continue recieving updates i guess [06:36] Heart_: but to be sure, u'd probably have to ask Riddell about that [06:36] riddell ? [06:36] yes Riddel [06:36] yes Riddell [06:36] he is in this channel with the nickname "Riddell" [06:37] i cant get sound from my cd :( [06:37] ah k so riddell, what do you think.... best choice i think is to leave it in the list and delete it when breezy comes out [06:37] LuNaTiK^GuY: check more thoroughly in KMix [06:38] lol [06:38] O_O [06:38] what ? did you find something ? [06:38] i'm lookin [06:40] logically....wots input and output for kmix? [06:40] Heart_: yes, leave it there as long as you are on hoary and want kde 3.4.1 [06:40] oh ... sorry ... you should be looking in cd inputs ;) [06:40] hi Riddell [06:41] hola [06:41] ok i got cd...but i have two buttons...one is red, the other is green [06:43] LuNaTiK^GuY: change the red to green [06:43] and then try [06:44] ...no i got two seperate buttons.....red and green....so i guess i keep the green on and put the red off? [06:45] yes [06:45] nothing [06:45] :( === foodcoman [~berickson@mcdonaldwhsl.com] has joined #kubuntu === JensK [~JensK@p54906FF7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:48] <_sbcl3> in kynaptic, how do you get rid of those "held packages"? [06:48] <_sbcl3> i want to upgrade to ooo2 but i don't think they'll let me === kman___ [~kman@p5.pub.ro] has joined #kubuntu [06:50] how can i access my win drive? [06:51] _sbcl3: why not? [06:51] LuNaTiK^GuY: check out windows section of www.ubuntuguide.org. [06:52] <_sbcl3> it may have been a server problem; i'll find out in a minute [06:52] see topic about server problems [06:52] Dont know what Im doin with apt-get! [06:53] Why wont these update? [06:53] libavcodeccvs libpostproc0 libxvidcore4 mplayer-386 === mrmanic is away (going offline) === mrmanic is now known as mrmanic|afk === kman___ [~kman@p5.pub.ro] has joined #kubuntu === pepin [~yann@gabuzomeu.ath.cx] has joined #kubuntu [07:00] i manage to mount my first windows partition hda1....but when i try to mount hda2 (a second windos partition) i get an error [07:01] mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o umask=0222 [07:01] this works for my first [07:01] changed to: mount /dev/hda2 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o umask=0222 [07:01] errr [07:01] it wont work [07:01] hmm, does someone have dpi settings in xorg.conf? === monchy [~monchy@S010600e04c400007.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu === kman___ [~kman@p5.pub.ro] has joined #kubuntu === shogouki is now known as shogo`NRV [07:04] Is both partitions NTFS? === shogo`NRV is now known as sho`moins`NRV [07:04] yes === sho`moins`NRV is now known as sho`calme [07:04] Also you are trying to mount both to same dir [07:04] mak a windows2 or something [07:04] Change the second command to point to the second dir you make. === sho`calme is now known as shogouki [07:05] ohhh ic [07:05] windows2 ;) [07:05] You got it. [07:06] ount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda2, [07:06] BTW, I suck compaired to most here! Keep that in mind when the tough questions come. === netjoined: irc.freenode.net -> orwell.freenode.net === Nakkel [~nakkel@vektori.com] has joined #kubuntu [07:06] missing codepage or other error [07:06] (aren't you trying to mount an extended partition, [07:06] instead of some logical partition inside?) [07:06] In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try [07:06] dmesg | tail or so [07:06] wrong fs type....and i'm sure its ntfs!! === Nakkel [~nakkel@vektori.com] has joined #kubuntu [07:08] Hrmm [07:08] ls your /media dir to make sure you have the windows and windows2 dir. [07:08] yes i have both [07:08] that is LS in lower case use a -L lower case for additional info. [07:09] mount /dev/hda2 /media/windows2/ -t ntfs -o umask=0222 [07:09] Now are you sure the system has it as hda2 for that second partition? [07:09] yes it doesnt work [07:09] LuNaTiK^GuY: sudo mount /dev/hda2 /media/windows2/ -t ntfs -o umask=0222 [07:10] LuNaTiK^GuY: add a sudo just before it (unless ur already running in root) [07:10] same error [07:10] i am in root [07:10] ok remove the -o thingy [07:10] i removed it and i got a screen of text [07:11] paste it in #flood [07:12] sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda2 /media/windows2/ [07:12] LuNaTiK^GuY: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda2 /media/windows2/ [07:13] same error [07:13] ok maybe u dont have the module for ntfs loaded ?? [07:14] but i already mounted my first ntfs drive [07:14] and it works fine [07:14] wait ... what cmmand did u use for that ? [07:14] mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o umask=0222 [07:14] ok . [07:14] do this .. [07:14] ls /media [07:14] then i created another directory "windows2" [07:14] tell me the o/p [07:14] and did [07:15] mount /dev/hda2 /media/windows2/ -t ntfs -o umask=0222 [07:15] hmm ok [07:15] keep -t ntfs before /dev.... [07:15] and remove -o umask=0222 [07:16] ie: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda2 /media/windows2/ [07:16] ? [07:16] yes [07:16] same error [07:16] wrong fs type [07:16] :( [07:16] ok [07:16] do fdisk -l [07:16] oh christtt [07:17] wait [07:17] the hda's arent in order [07:17] !!!! [07:17] eh ? [07:17] its hda5!! [07:17] oh right .. [07:17] LuNaTiK^GuY: its always a good idea to do "fdisk -l" [07:17] to check the partitions and partition types before mount [07:17] i got the point now ;) [07:18] anyway, dont worry, in the near future u wont have to do all this nonsense to mount a drive [07:18] y not? [07:18] mandrake has a nice automounting thingy....y dont u do it>? [07:19] yes we are brining the same thing ... [07:19] we are bringing [07:19] good [07:19] :) [07:19] ok mp3's work fine [07:20] :) [07:20] cd is the only problem with sound now === mrmanic|afk is now known as mrmanic [07:21] ok ... u probably need to start using the bugzilla or something to report all this [07:21] ? [07:23] LuNaTiK^GuY: bugzilla is the method to resolve such issues, ie, audio cd not playing etc [07:24] and how do i get to it? [07:24] bugzilla.ubuntu.com i believe === jpegfr [~jpegfr@jpegfr.net] has joined #kubuntu === monchy [~monchy@S010600e04c400007.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:27] of course it completely depends on ur perspective ... whether you believe kubuntu is a movement/community, or an operating system distro [07:27] what do u mean? [07:27] can i be honest.... [07:27] well, if u consider it as a distro ... then it is enough to rant about it in here ;) [07:27] yes u may [07:28] as a matter of fact, so far, i have expected u to be honest ;) [07:28] this isnt about kubuntu or ububntu...its about wot i've felt trying diverse distros [07:28] ok ... [07:28] i like linux...the gui's are cute...i personally like them alot....some applications are cute too [07:28] but ? [07:28] but there's this thing....coming from a windows world.... [07:29] everything worked....every time [07:29] while with every distro i tried....kmix worked fine in mandrake, but not in kubuntu......parittioning worked fine in ubuntu...but not in yoper [07:29] that sort of thing [07:30] a sort of weak point in every distro [07:30] and i was thinking.....instead of spreading out even further....why doesn;t the linux community focus on giving fewer, yet better assembled distros? [07:30] because thats the point [07:31] what should a distro focus on ? [07:31] i know it is...its open source [07:31] and, for me, windows was not all that perfect as it seems ... [07:31] but [07:31] whether it is open source or not .. [07:31] i know..it isnt perfect [07:31] nothing is [07:31] *what* should a distro focus on ? there a gazillion different things a distro must do === ilba7r [~ilba7r@d141-64-4.home.cgocable.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:32] ok.... [07:32] what about...a fast, clean distro [07:32] there should be applications, hardware support, eye-candy, overall usability, localization and handling cultural differences .. === lap [~lap@82-35-71-158.cable.ubr01.dals.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [07:32] with a GUI and admin stuff [07:32] and nothing else [07:32] thats the problem, different people have different ideas about what consitutes an OS [07:32] then let the user decide what to install and what to leave out [07:33] but the base system should be rock solid [07:33] LuNaTiK^GuY: thats another problem: most users wouldn't even know what to install :) [07:33] again, u come to rock solid [07:33] let me try to explain it in a different way === eXhumed [~papercut@208.53.170.44] has joined #kubuntu [07:33] i'm not arguing against kubuntu mind you... [07:34] just sharing an idea [07:34] sure, i didnt think so since you mentioned other distros :) [07:34] yes its a general thing [07:34] yes, it is indicative of a general feeling that linux newbies have [07:35] the point is, the tools exist ... from gui and admin tools and what not ... atleast within kubuntu, (but also all other distros), now there is an integrative approach [07:35] you could say a horizontal distro as opposed to vertical [07:36] but....this feeling of "being lost" comes from even tiny stuff [07:36] for example [07:36] if i want a text editor in windows...its called notepad.....very simple [07:37] if i want it in linux...there are many more [07:37] Kate, Vim etc etc [07:37] <_sbcl3> does anyone know if kynaptic keeps an install log? [07:37] but....why should those names be used? [07:37] why not make it simple? [07:38] LuNaTiK^GuY: hehe, that is something u will have to take up with Riddel :) he decides the basic configuration of the system [07:38] a touch here and there....and it will all fare better [07:38] lunatik lol in window you have wordpad and notepad and if you did some work you will find that wordpad is much better but other wise having a variety is better do not you think so [07:38] lol its not about kubuntu alone...its about every distro.... [07:39] variety....is good....but there is tooo much!! [07:39] LuNaTiK^GuY: but essentially, I have made the same specific suggestion ti Riddell ... about Kate/Kedit/Kwrite ie [07:39] ti = to [07:39] hmm? [07:40] you can pick up what you are familiar with lunatik [07:40] hi Riddell :) lol [07:40] LuNaTiK^GuY: the point I am trying to make is something different: if Kubuntu has to go anywhere, people like *you* need to be involved ... [07:40] every one is a accostemed to a program having more variaty is much better [07:40] insanekane: you're trying to involve someone with a nickname LuNaTiK^GuY? :) [07:41] LuNaTiK^GuY: and by "you" i dont mean people with specific qualities ... but *you* as an individual [07:41] i cant be that involved...i dont know how to build a distro etc....but i can give u suggestions...for newbies..by a newbie :) [07:41] having variety is better [07:41] but there are different ways to present variety [07:42] LuNaTiK^GuY: no ... suggestions are good, but you need to go all the way ... and spending 2 hours a week learning how to improve kubuntu will *not* be an exercise in theory but can provide practical results ... why dont u try it ? [07:42] Riddell: :) [07:42] anyone know why while running ubuntu i run up into a problem that the pc is running like crazy (though am not openning too many programs) and the notebook just reboots? [07:42] i am willing to keep on using kubuntu yes! [07:43] for example...KDE and Gnome are totally 100% intuitive [07:43] any windows user can get up and running with them [07:43] even for the first time [07:43] so thats perfect [07:43] LuNaTiK^GuY: now, I am not a kubuntu developer, not associated with kubuntu developers etc, so my views are nothing official :) [07:44] but why should a media player be named Amarok? [07:44] insane and lunatik lol your nick make me feel i am in mental house :) [07:44] and not something like "Media Player" [07:44] LuNaTiK^GuY: thats it ! you have understood a core concept :) ... KDE is perfect ... but not Kubuntu's implementation of an integrated, easily learnable desktop OS [07:44] what's a "Media Player"? [07:44] or "Linux Media Player" [07:45] LuNaTiK^GuY: there is a description of every app in the k-menu === ztonzy [~ztonzy@ztonzy.artist.blender] has joined #kubuntu [07:45] LuNaTiK^GuY: that can be changed, and in my derivative of Kubuntu, I use descriptive names, than program name in the K Menu :) [07:45] yes Riddell i know.... [07:45] it can be changed yes....buttt [07:45] prefix for kde in kubuntu is? /usr? [07:45] whats the problem with making it more intuitive first time! [07:46] LuNaTiK^GuY: but ?? you know how you could contribute this very minute ? get the source of kubuntu-default-settings ... and change the config files .. send patch to Riddel :) [07:46] loool [07:46] Heart_: kde-config --prefix [07:46] Heart_: it is /usr [07:46] LuNaTiK^GuY: and config files are basically, name=value pairs .. something anyone can do [07:46] LuNaTiK^GuY: and the whole process can be learned in under half an hour [07:46] LuNaTiK^GuY: because the developers wanted to name it Amarok, it's so simple [07:46] Riddell: thx [07:47] but Amarok sounds like Venusian to a newbie....it makes him think that Linux in general is for experts....just coz of a dreaded name!! its all psychological!! [07:48] LuNaTiK^GuY: as i said, you can change all that :) apt-get source kubuntu-default-settings [07:48] lol [07:48] ok i'll try [07:48] :) === HillTop [~chatzilla@cpe-66-91-252-59.san.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [07:48] LuNaTiK^GuY: actually Amarok is an Inuktitut word [07:48] hehe [07:49] how do you think an Inuktitut feels when confronted with something called "media player"? [07:49] downloading the file ;) [07:49] i got the file [07:49] where do i find it? [07:49] LuNaTiK^GuY: if more people take the initiative, maybe a Master like Riddell could give a half an hour IRC workshop on packaging ;) [07:49] lol [07:49] LuNaTiK^GuY: cd kubuntu-default-settings- [07:50] LuNaTiK^GuY: even if that is not possible, there is a concise introduction to the area on the ubuntu wiki pages which is very useful [07:50] i cant get to the file ;) [07:51] LuNaTiK^GuY: btw, if you didnt know, hitting tab in Konsole shows you completions like for the above === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #kubuntu === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has left #kubuntu ["I'm] [07:51] hello Seveas [07:51] oh well === Razor-X [razorx@everest.sosdg.org] has joined #kubuntu === Soyburg [~Soyburg@p54B17EB7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:53] LuNaTiK^GuY: ok, im off to eat Tandoori Chicken and Mutter Paneer with Butter Nan along with some nice chutney's and a wierd salad [07:53] lol [07:53] enjoy :) [07:53] LuNaTiK^GuY: if you need help, ask here or in #kubuntu-devel, or wait for me for abt an hour [07:53] i'll be off soon [07:53] but ok :) [07:53] k [07:53] i'll be back [07:53] cya later then [07:53] 10ks a lot! [07:53] ciao [07:53] np [07:54] cirio === ToyMan [~stuq@user-12lcqur.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu [07:55] how do i go up one directory in console? [07:56] when I run apt-get update I get a md5 sum error on ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat stable and testing. Is anyone else experiencing this? [07:57] LuNaTiK^GuY: "cd .." [07:57] 10q === jaco [~jaco@host239-61.pool8259.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu === golan [~golan@host228-84.pool8173.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu === seth_k [~seth@24-117-104-21.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #kubuntu === Heart [~heart@p549C2D80.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [08:02] which are the kde config files? [08:02] i've got the default settings [08:02] but which is the config file with the KDE titles? === FireEgl [Ariel@2001:5c0:84dc:1:2a0:c9ff:fee9:52bc] has joined #Kubuntu === _ubuntu [~ubuntu@dD5765BEC.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu [08:06] LuNaTiK^GuY: for ehat configs? [08:06] s/ehat/what === Heart [~jzdgc@p549C2D80.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [08:09] i got the kde-default-settings pack [08:09] now where can i edit the conf files with the KDE start menu labels? === pv_ [~pv@jt11-57-1.tky.hut.fi] has joined #kubuntu [08:11] right click on the K symbol and select the editor. [08:12] but i need to send the patch [08:12] its not for me ;) [08:16] dpkg -L kde-default-settings, might reveal something useful === _douglas [~douglas@dpc6745164251.direcpc.com] has joined #kubuntu [08:16] I've modified my menus so I don't want to install that package, so I can't try it [08:26] why is there no kubuntu install cd with 3.4.1? just a live CD? [08:27] or has everything been updated and they just didn't change the numbering [08:27] or will I have to upgrade to 3.4.1 after a kubuntu install === randabis [~randabis@cpe-67-10-186-21.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === [v2hja] [kewler@80-235-36-129-dsl.mus.estpak.ee] has joined #kubuntu === [v2hja] [kewler@80-235-36-129-dsl.mus.estpak.ee] has left #kubuntu [] === toran [~me@d12-49.rt-bras.clm.centurytel.net] has joined #kubuntu === jjesse [~jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu [08:34] where should I go to add a new network device? [08:35] in KDE? === liz4rd|zZz is now known as liz4rd [08:35] toran, kcontrol [08:36] hmm, I have a wireless card and a built-in wired network device. How do I know which is which? [08:36] wired cards are usually classified as eth# [08:36] wireless are usually wlan# [08:36] yeah [08:37] well, I know for sure that eth0 is my wireless card ;-) [08:37] I think I set it up that way [08:37] possible [08:37] I was just saying the defaults [08:38] in your case kcontrol's network settings should show eth0 and eth1 [08:38] it should tell you which is which === jjesse [~jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu [08:39] randabis: ok, I see eth1, but I click enable and it doesn't get enables [08:39] *enabled [08:39] toran: you may need to assign it an ip address first [08:39] I did [08:39] hmm... I'll just edit /etc/network/interfaces [08:39] any basic configs for a wired device? [08:40] usually something like [08:40] eth# inet dhcp [08:40] randabis: where is "kcontrol's network settings" ? I cant find it in Control Centre === randabis looks at his real quick [08:40] except my network doesn't have dhcp ;-) [08:41] why not? [08:41] well you'd change that to static then === liz4rd hugs dhcp === p| [~pi@host4-57.pool80182.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu [08:41] toran: you can do man /etc/network/interfaces which gives u some samples for static network [08:41] actually, I'm trying to connect to another computer using a crossover cable, anything special I'll need? [08:42] iface eth0 inet static [08:42] address #.#.#.# [08:42] netmask #.#.#.# [08:42] auto eth0 [08:42] like that [08:42] should need anything special [08:42] shouldn't [08:42] sorry for flood === yourghetek [~user@c-67-174-254-167.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:48] whats the command to find somebody in irc? [08:48] the last seen thing === tranber [~tranber@alf94-2-82-66-122-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:50] I don't think !seen works here [08:50] probably not [08:50] !seen randabis [08:50] nope :D [08:51] hehe [08:51] used it in ubuntu channel [08:51] thanks guys [08:51] there's a bot in #ubuntu that does it apparently === Almindor [~Almindor_@chello082119101212.chello.sk] has joined #kubuntu [08:52] cant kubuntu have one too? [08:52] I asked it if it had seen the lochness monster [08:52] heh [08:52] any idea when kubuntu get's KDE 3.4.1? === jeramy [~jeramy@ottawa-hs-206-191-28-29.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #kubuntu [08:53] there's an ugly bug fixed there :) [08:53] Almindor: already has it unofficially [08:53] read the topic === Almindor just read the topic [08:53] lets all go into the ubuntu channel and look for mystical creatures (!seen) [08:53] goody === Heart [~jzdgc@p549C2D80.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [08:54] randabis. want to? [08:54] the novelty wore off already [08:54] hehe === yourghetek [~user@c-67-174-254-167.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu [] [08:55] Anyone from India in here ? [08:58] apparently not === p|_ [~pi@host4-57.pool80182.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu [09:00] root <~Kevin@CPE0006255ab096-CM400049887786.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 6d 21h 55m 9s ago, saying: 'am I hacked?' [09:00] lol [09:01] LOL [09:01] randabis: i can't stop laughing :) [09:02] yeah [09:02] <_sbcl3> what does the kubuntu base system [server installation] install? === gideon [~gideon@aware.demon.nl] has joined #kubuntu [09:02] _sbcl3: stuff needed for a server ? (perhaps no X) ? [09:02] _sbcl3: I believe just the base system that would be universal to any ubuntu install [09:03] debian base system ? or kubuntu server installation ? [09:03] it would be debian base [09:03] I've done one before [09:03] meaning typing "server" at the boot screen of the install disk [09:04] i dont think _sbcl3 means that ... i think he talks regarding the comment when the boot screen shows with the install cd [09:04] yeah I know, that's what I just said [09:04] yeah .. but server install is more than debian base [09:04] iirc, debian base is what is initially installed on the disk, which installs the rest, be it kubuntu desktop or kubuntu server ... [09:05] not the install that occurs when you type "server" [09:05] Hi, I have more of a common linux question. I've installed Kubuntu on my Toshiba Laptop ( Satellite Pro 4300, not that new :( ) and I'm having trouble setting up my 56K modem. I allready discoverd, linmodems are not really supported, so I've added a Xircom ethernet/56k PCMCIA combi to solve my problem [09:05] typing "server" at the boot screen installs only the base system, nothing else [09:05] But I don't know where to start to get it working :S (never dealed with dialup software before in linux) === _zarathustra [~zarathust@p54A346BD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:06] try the program kppp [09:06] <_zarathustra> hi [09:06] I haven't used a modem in years so I can't help you [09:06] randabis: but that would be counterproductive ... it wouldn't install enough for a usable system [09:06] insanekane: it's not meant to [09:06] gideon: use KPPP and check for ur modem [09:06] <_zarathustra> i've two little problems after compiling my own kernel [09:07] got it running, HUGE list of posible modem devices :x [09:07] insanekane: it's meant to give you a base system where you can choose to add things individually to it [09:07] randabis: debian base and kubuntu server is different in the sense that kubuntu server is a superset of debian base (or the ubuntu version thereof) [09:07] <_zarathustra> my etherenet interface doesn't start with the system, i have to activate it manually by "ifup eth0" [09:07] insanekane: server does ubuntu-base iirc [09:07] gideon: the way i think is, to select each one by one (starting with say /dev/modem) and then use the "Query modem" to see if the modem really works [09:08] randabis: ok [09:08] I just know that doing server at the boot screen only installs the base system and nothing else === yourghetek [~user@c-67-174-254-167.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:09] you can then add everything you want piece by piece [09:09] right [09:09] can i mount my samba (microsoft) workgroup to a folder called 'workgroup' my media folder [09:09] randabis: so, with kubuntu server, after doing the initial CD copying thing, it doesnt restart and install the rest of the packages ? === tranber is now known as TranbeR`Mange [09:10] yourghetek: it will probably show up in Remote Places rather than in media:/ === wizzard [wizzard@chello082119115074.chello.sk] has joined #kubuntu [09:10] insanekane: nope. I think it "may" restart, but nothing else is installed. Been a little while since I've done it [09:10] ok === Almindor [~Almindor_@chello082119101212.chello.sk] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [09:10] insanekaneL i cant burn a cd from files on remote shares using k3b like that [09:10] yourghetek: yes you cant :) [09:10] my remote folder isnt there [09:11] and it wont let me put in the path to my windows machine [09:11] yes, afaik, you cant do that from a file in media:/ url either [09:11] yourghetek: you can mount samba shares in /media I believe. Can't say for sure since I only use nfs [09:11] yeah [09:11] whats the command for that? [09:11] randabis: he means the Media ioslave than /media [09:11] i alrady made the dir [09:12] I don't know...it could be different than the way to do it with nfs [09:13] suggest checking man mount [09:13] so doing smb://path/to/your/file in k3b doesnt allow you to write to cd ? why dont u copy from that location to ur home folder ? [09:13] lol@man mount [09:13] :) [09:13] insane kane.. i kinda wanted to do it the cool way... [09:14] the "cool" way ? ;) [09:14] I think I know how to do it [09:14] mount ip:/folder smbfs /media/blah [09:14] ah! [09:15] good idea [09:15] or something similar [09:15] and then just make the router assign that ip forever to the windows machines mac [09:15] could be [09:15] thanks [09:15] will try and post to forums if it works === philipacamaniac [~phliipaca@208-47-135-198.dia.cust.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:16] and of course will give you props [09:16] !seen a simpler, more childish interface than gnome [09:17] np [09:17] lol === yourghetek [~user@c-67-174-254-167.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu [] === _yann [~yann@gabuzomeu.ath.cx] has joined #kubuntu === lonewolff [~lonewolff@lonewolff.user] has joined #kubuntu === desidaerius504 [~kenneth@archon-216-68-31-100.fuse.net] has joined #Kubuntu === nate_______ [~nate@198.150.11.82] has joined #kubuntu [09:28] finished testing all possible devices. Googled around for about an hour. Seems that hotplug misleads the modprobe. cardinfo and cardmgr both don't detect a card, though my network connection works. But the 56k modem doesn't work [09:29] gideon: you can pass options to an automatically loaded module [09:30] do you mean, do I know how to do that? (in that case, yes) [09:30] but I don't know, what I should pass [09:30] or declare in /etc/modules [09:30] ahh [09:32] cardctl ident says there arent any pcmcia cards available, while I'm connected to the internet through the card :( [09:32] I have a digital camera that works with digikam in gentoo, but under ubuntu it neither works with the camera io slave or digikam === bisley_ [~bisley@85.57.3.222] has joined #kubuntu [09:33] I suspect the camera ioslave is somehow grabbing the device so digikam can't use it [09:33] USB? so in nautilus you don't see anything within 30 seconds in; media:/// [09:33] nautilus? you mean conqueror? [09:33] s/c/k [09:34] sorry :x my baddy (you said ubuntu :D) [09:34] doh [09:34] the camera icon pops up, but the window is empty [09:34] do I just wait? it doesn't look like anythig is happening [09:35] azureus isn't in a repos. :(? [09:35] could do "lsusb" in konsole to look if anything happened [09:35] yeah it's a kodak USB camera [09:35] Heart: try bittorrent-bittornado [09:35] still should be visible withing a few seconds under media:/ [09:35] insanekane: is this console-only or with a gui? [09:36] Heart: it has *a* gui ... [09:36] Heart: and usually, when u download a torrent in konqeror, it will be opened in bittornado [09:36] gideon: it shows with lsusb and the camera icon shows in media:/// [09:37] gideon: but there are no pictures there :( [09:37] Heart: but, it probably isnt the kind of gui which u probably expect as in azereus [09:37] so, the whole cam is plugged into the system, you've got a SD card and the camera's internal memory. That means you should see 2 devices [09:37] try [09:38] "mount" and see if they come up [09:38] if you don't see anything, try "fdisk -l", you should see a few "sdX#" devices (like "sda1" or "sdb1") === TranbeR`Mange is now known as TranbeR [09:39] if no luck yet, unplug the cam, modprobe usb-storage, replug the cam, and retry the whole list [09:39] gideon: as I said, it works under digikam under gentoo. I'm happy with that, so I suppose I just want to stop KDE fiddling with it :) === GnuKemist [~omaciel@cpe-24-193-127-131.nj.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [09:40] I don't thik it's a problem with support, I think I just need to let digikam see it again [09:41] Hi... I just installed Kubuntu on my thinkpad X40 and I noticed Konqueror to be painfully slow... I haven't used KDE before, so... is Konqueror really slow or is there something else? [09:41] hmm ... actually, kde 3.4 is faster for me than older versions [09:42] anyway ... ciao all .. enjoy kubuntu !! [09:42] hummm [09:42] GnuKemist: what have you used in the past? [09:42] it is so weird... and I really want to try out KDE === gnumdk [~gnumdk@ANantes-252-1-61-95.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [09:42] what behaviour are you seeing? [09:43] bobbyd... mostly Gnome or OpenBox with Firefox [09:43] bobbyd it is painfully slow [09:43] konqueror shouldn't be any slower than nautilus(sp?) [09:43] you mean like, leave it alone? [09:43] GnuKemist: what do you actually mean by that [09:43] gideon: yes [09:44] gideon: do I need to fiddle with udev to make that happen? [09:44] I mean, the pages load extremelly slow [09:44] GnuKemist: you mean web pages? you're not being very descriptive :) [09:44] :S ... never had that issue before. Don't know how you could turn that down [09:45] bobbyd... sorry... I forget you can use Koqueror for more than browsing the web [09:45] bobbyd... yes, I meant web pages [09:46] GnuKemist: have you tried another browser? maybe you have a dns resolution problem [09:46] GnuKemist: what exactly happens? do you see very high cpu usage? [09:46] possible [09:46] but it should be ok... [09:46] does it just sit there for a while then load all at once [09:46] I'm using it at home [09:46] bobbyd... something like that [09:47] describe what happens when you load a page. if you don't do that clearly, I can't really help [09:47] it is true that kwifi(something) doesn't seem to recognize my AP and I often have to iwconfig it [09:48] and also, run top in a konsole and change the delay to something like 0.1 and see if the cpu usage is very high when you load a page === benus [~benus@p549F499F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:48] bobbyd... don't have the laptop on me atm... but I guess you described it really well when you said that it takes a while and then loads it in one slow move [09:48] if it's not, then something else is delaying the loading of pages [09:48] GnuKemist: that sounds like a network problem [09:48] will have to check then... when I get home... [09:48] I would do the above, and also try something like 'links' to see if you get the same problem [09:49] that is a good idea... [09:49] you could also try pinging some sites and see how long they take to resolve [09:49] like I said, I installed it last night and haven't really spent too much time with it [09:50] ok, no problem, if you get more info, come back :) [09:50] I had Ubuntu running before but I knew where/how to do things [09:50] will do [09:50] thanx a million [09:50] no problemo [09:50] hehe [09:50] later === nate_______ is now known as _nate_ === Gombe [~Gombe@mordad.ee.queensu.ca] has joined #kubuntu [09:58] Where is all the wallpaper at in KDE/Kubuntu? [09:58] If you snag new ones, do you put them with those, or just point to ones in your home dir? [09:59] put them in your home directory [09:59] probably best in ~/.kde/share/wallpapers, or just wherever you put pictures [10:00] Thanks philip! Makes sense because most would probably back their home dir and not the whole distro. [10:01] yes, and upgrades might write over the /usr/share/wallpaper directory [10:01] Great advise. Thanks. [10:01] no prob [10:03] Read an article on the Dual Core Athlon's. Pretty hot stuff! [10:03] Wish I could afford to build a new machine! === Gombe [~Gombe@mordad.ee.queensu.ca] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] === kakalto [~kakalto@wired-210-54-56-150.ps.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu [10:07] It would be great to build a new machine with Athlon64's [10:08] Too bad I'm broke, and I'll be attending college in a couple of months, so no job for me [10:12] Does Linux work well with new SLI video cards also? [10:12] That would be a smokin combo. [10:14] you need at least the binary only drivers from nvidia, they are either suporting it or will support soon [10:14] foodcoman: Nvidia cards should work [10:14] foodcoman: check the nvidia driver page [10:14] bobbyd: I have an older one. [10:15] hmmmmm [10:15] digikam works when I'm root [10:15] bobbyd: It works. I am curious how close to Bleading edge they are? [10:15] but anyway, the only good use would be to connect more than 2 displays [10:15] I read something on a debian forum about being in the camera group, but there doesn't seem to be a camera group in kubuntu [10:16] foodcoman: the linux and win drivers are supposed to be the same for nvidia [10:16] ijuz_: hahahah, I can barely handle one. [10:16] foodcoman: so they should contain allthe same features [10:16] foodcoman: The linux drivers sometimes have OGL support that isn't even in the win32 ones === airox [~airox@airox.user] has joined #kubuntu [10:16] foodcoman: actually i thought about this, displays are so cheap this days, but i have stuff over my desk, so i can't have a 2*2 setup [10:17] foodcoman: but I haven't had a lot of time to check them out lately as I've been working under windows at work [10:17] Anybody who knows a way to get Kcontact (or a applet) to get into the taskbar and notify me about new emails ? [10:17] ijuz_: buy a leaf blower and clean the desk for a second display! [10:17] =) [10:17] ijuz_: we all have dual monitor setups at work, it's really cool :) [10:17] bobbyd: Same here, but run a gratuitous Kubuntu box at work. Mainly Kubuntu for home. [10:17] i have dual monitor, but more would be nice [10:18] when i try to install amule aptitude wants to delete several packages... (kubuntu-desktop, konversation, kdenetwork and so on) :( [10:18] foodcoman: I have no linux desktop at work at the moment [10:19] bobbyd: =( SSH and tunnel VNC session to home. [10:19] foodcoman: we have linux servers, and I've just snagged a linux machine for some tasks