[12:03] jbailey: how soon do you think you can land the hardware detection? === marcin_ant [~marcin@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:07] mdz: I'll have a better answer for you after tomorrow, but I'd really like it to be the end of the week. [12:09] oh dudes [12:09] stunning interview with ubuntu contributor, seb128 [12:09] http://oskuro.net/blog/freesoftware/interview-seb128-2005-06-14-17-21 [12:09] that's clearly not seb [12:10] he didn't say "iz gtk bug" even once === seb128 slaps jordi again [12:10] lol [12:12] yuck, seems like my poor little box is planetgnome'ed === justdave [~dave@66-227-241-236.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Nafallo waits for the page to show up ;-) [12:14] it will... at some point [12:14] or go to planet.gnome :) [12:15] jdub, can you comment on --> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41530 [12:16] ahh. it's there :-). [12:16] ogra: ? [12:17] jordi: want to make a quick fix? get a static dump of it and redirect the accesses there? [12:17] ogra: tablix should b-d on libpvm3-dev (or whatever it's called) not libpvm3 [12:17] elmo, there is no -dev [12:18] (at least here on amd64.... ) === ogra looks at i386 === Nafallo grumbles [12:19] forget "--" and you build against the wrong release *sigh* [12:19] ogra: pvm-dev ? [12:19] ARGH ... why the heck do they call it pvm-dev and not libpvm-dev [12:19] elmo, just saw it *sigh* === ogra prepares a fix === afra [~SohbetIRC@85.96.234.95] has joined #ubuntu-devel === afra [~SohbetIRC@85.96.234.95] has left #ubuntu-devel ["] [12:30] maswan: yeah, I probably should for a few days === allee [~ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Yvonne_ [~fsck@cn-sdm-cr02-0148.dial.kabelfoon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === kafeine [~kori@212.39.73.142] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:46] jordi: and if you run out of bandwidth, just redirect it to a server with enough. :) [12:49] maswan - professional bandwidth pimp [12:49] lol [12:49] you mean you don't irc from a box with a gbit pipe? [12:51] elmo: We did peak at about 2Gbit/s for the sarge release. :) [12:51] maswan: nice === henriquemaia [~henriquem@cb-217-129-170-55.netvisao.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:52] Hope we get to beat that for breezy. :) [12:53] s/for/with/ [12:57] hehehe === sabdfl [~mark@host217-37-231-22.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === _Legion_ [~adebarbar@labi.fi.uba.ar] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:03] seb128, is there a reason why gnome-network was not built for hoary or breezy? [01:04] what is this stuff? [01:04] it was a shell for ssh and telnet [01:04] gnome-nettool no? [01:04] nope [01:04] apt-cache show gnome-nettool [01:04] are you sure? [01:05] yep [01:05] it points to http://www.gnome.org/projects/gnome-network/ [01:05] and Replaces it [01:06] maybe the shell stuff was dropped by Gnome [01:06] maybe you want tsclient? [01:06] nope [01:07] this is what doesn't appear anywhere else: [01:07] gnome-remote-shell: a remote shell (Telnet/SSH) client. === bronson_ [~bronson@node-40240852.sjc.onnet.us.uu.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Nafallo wishes good night === dato_ [~adeodato@84-120-77-228.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === adebarbara [~adebarbar@labi.fi.uba.ar] has joined #ubuntu-devel === adebarbara is now known as PceKper_ === sabdfl [~mark@host217-37-231-22.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === trulux_ghost [~lorenzo@67.Red-80-25-56.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === trulux_ghost is now known as trulux === fatshame [~adam@cpe-066-056-133-182.triad.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:30] infinity: can you kick dbus off again? [01:31] infinity: gtk-sharp is in main now, was the last failure [01:31] (complete IRC newb) ... Is anyone here familiar with the Ubuntu installer internals? [01:32] fatshame: yes but you probably want to read around on the wiki before asking questions [01:32] if you havent already, of course [01:33] I've tried, but unf. wasn't able to find what I was looking for [01:33] do you have a min? [01:34] question should be pretty quick [01:34] you want Kamion or maybe mdz [01:35] thanks tseng [01:36] the general irc etiquitte is to just come right out with your question and hope someone answers [01:36] if not, try again at a sufficently later time. [01:36] oh, sorry trying not to be obnoxious [01:39] fatshame, fire away, someone might know [01:40] I am trying to create a script which will resize an NTFS partition to a specified size. Using NTFS and sfdisk creates the necessary adjustments but renders the XP partition unbootable. Where can I find out what steps the Hoary installer takes during it's NTFS resize? [01:44] fatshame: it uses ntfsresize [01:44] from ntfsprogs === Mez [~Mez@82-36-228-130.cable.ubr01.perr.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:46] yea, I'm using that too. Steps are to resize w/ ntfsresize and rebuild new partition table with partitioning software. I'm specifying something incorrectly in the second step and trying to figure out what. [01:47] I'm feeding something wrong to sfdisk [01:49] mdz: does this make sense? [01:50] fatshame: so your problem is with resizing the partition, not NTFS [01:50] mdz: I think so [01:51] well, you can easily test that by skipping the second step [01:53] mdz: I think I've already verified that it's the second step that is wrong, it's a matter of figuring out how to carry out the second step correctly... [01:56] mdz: Other projects (parteds, Hoary installer, Suse installer) are all able to resize ntfs partitions to a specified size using ntfsresize, so I should be able to do it too. It's just a matter of figuring out what mistake I'm making in step two. [01:56] fatshame: the ubuntu installer uses parted [01:56] so you won't be able to look at it to see how to use sfdisk [01:56] mdz: re the pnet depend, is that from the mono-mcs source package, or mono-mcs from the mono source package? [01:57] tseng: if it's a depend, that's the binary package name; if it's a build-dep, it's the source package name [01:57] mdz: right, but I might be able to switch to parted, or figure out how to do the correct sizes... [01:57] hm I see it now [01:57] mdz: its a virtual [01:58] Depends: [01:58] mono-jit [01:58] pnet-interpreter [01:58] do we need to pull in both? [01:58] pnet is not supportable [01:58] no, just one [01:58] well then we are covered there. [01:58] and that will drop treecc off the list also. [01:59] wonderful, ill chip away at the rest. thanks mdz [01:59] we do need to figure out why germinate chose that one; it doesn't make much sense [01:59] are mono-mcs and mono-jit built by the same source package? [01:59] yes. [02:02] if we need to, we can add a hint to the seeds to work that out [02:02] great. [02:02] i wonder if we can get around xsp-in-main [02:02] would have to drop monodoc-http or mutilate the source into two ala old dbus-mono === CarlK___ [~CFKarsten@h-66-166-70-210.chcgilgm.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === netjoined: irc.freenode.net -> orwell.freenode.net === sjoerd [sjoerd@fire.ipv6.luon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:08] tseng: is xsp bad news? [02:09] tseng: it looks like monodoc-http could work with mono-apache-server instead; should we switch it to that? === tritium [~tritium@12-208-96-155.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bradb [~bradb@modemcable082.64-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jordi [~jordi@115.Red-213-96-69.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:17] jamesh: ping? === tseng [~tseng@mail.thegrebs.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === trulux [~lorenzo@trulux.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel === `anthony [~anthony@220-253-4-229.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dand [~dand@gw.datagroup.ro] has joined #ubuntu-devel === schweeb [~chris@209.120.232.21] has joined #ubuntu-devel === kent [~kent@c-bdc871d5.432-1-64736c13.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel === chris38 [~bayle@192.44.60.65] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mbeattie [~mbeattie@ool-4355f1f7.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dilinger [dilinger@mouth.voxel.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tseng_ [~tseng@67.18.92.220] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stub [~stub@203-217-37-199.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === trulux [~lorenzo@trulux.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel === chris38-home [~Christian@LNeuilly-152-22-2-96.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Treenaks [~martijn@messy.foodfight.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel === schweeb [~chris@209.120.232.21] has joined #ubuntu-devel === chris38-home2 [~Christian@LNeuilly-152-22-2-96.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:29] jbailey: I think next week is when it (EU hardware detection) needs to be if it's going to happen; please make that your priority [02:29] Burgundavia: comment on the bug, post a reference to the nautilus mailing list [02:29] good morning jdub [02:30] Burgundavia: perhaps talk to the gnome bug dudes about it [02:30] jdub, ok, can do [02:31] Burgundavia is a big filing machine === astro76 [~james@astro76.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel === PceKper_ [~adebarbar@labi.fi.uba.ar] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Abandonando"] === scorpix [~scorpix@as8-14.qualitynet.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AndyFitz [~andy@CPE-144-131-192-229.qld.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:49] you ? === AndyFitz [~andy@CPE-144-131-192-229.qld.bigpond.net.au] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === tritium [~tritium@12-208-96-155.client.insightBB.com] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === SloMo_ [~slomo@p5487F5F7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Speedy2 [~johnjacob@cpe-66-74-199-40.san.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:19] Can someone send me the binary for "lspci" ? I am trying to debug an issue with the Ubuntu install CD and the console during the install does not have lspci [03:20] Don't rush to help now. [03:21] Speedy2, be patient, don't be rude, and this is wrong channel for getting help [03:21] Burgundavia: I'm doing this so I can feed a bug report back to Ubuntu developers. [03:22] #ubuntu is for help [03:22] this is for the fix to that bug [03:28] mdz: still there? === ealden [~ealden@219.90.93.100] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ikuyaLoqu [~ikuya@gnulinux.good-day.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === justdave [~dave@66-227-241-236.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:49] infinity: nevermind, it kicked itsel [03:49] f === moquist_ [~moquist@pool-64-222-131-4.man.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [~jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:08] mako, i think the shipit faq has been rolled back too, i could have sworn it was more up to date than that [04:09] mdke, what happened [04:10] nothing I just thought that I remember reading more up to date information about shipit for hoary [04:10] at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/shipit/ [04:10] morning jsgotangco btw === OddAbe19 [~OddAbe19@pcp02542642pcs.lncstr01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:12] morning [04:12] hows it going [04:14] fine thanks === robitaille [~robitaill@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === kent [~kent@c-bdc871d5.432-1-64736c13.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:23] mdz: Okay. === camilotelles [~Camilo@201009117218.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel === justdave [~dave@66-227-241-236.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ezequiel [~ezequiel@host77.201-252-94.telecom.net.ar] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:09] Hmm. Not in the main keyring yet. [05:09] Hum de dum. [05:09] wasabi: elmo's quite swamped. [05:09] Need something uploaded? [05:10] Naw It can wait. [05:10] a'ight [05:11] so, if you all upgrade libxcursor1 to the latest, I think you'll find Firefox will leak a whole lot less [05:12] mdke: dude.. it was rolled back [05:12] mdke: i know.. it bummed me out a lot [05:12] heh [05:12] there at least a couple of hours of work missing === daniels glares at his 290MB-resident Firefox process. [05:12] mako, long time no see [05:12] daniels: Ooo. Is that likely to apply to epiphany as well? =) [05:13] jsgotangco: a few days maybe.. i kept my head low over the weekend.. had like 5 people staying with me from out of town for the debian release party [05:13] mako, join the docteam meeting on the 16th 22:00 UTC if you're available [05:14] jbailey: anything that uses xcursor [05:15] jbailey: basically, we leaked the set of xrender images for the animated cursor every time we set one [05:15] jsgotangco: send me a reminder [05:15] jsgotangco: i should be around though [05:15] mako, k will do [05:15] jbailey: in a long-lived process like a web browser that makes extensive use of the animated busy cursor ... [05:15] jsgotangco: if i'm not on irc, email or sms my mobile [05:15] ok i'll just get your mobile on your page [05:15] daniels: Oh ouch. [05:16] i've been going to sit in the park next to my house around evenings these days.. there is wireless but sometimes i unplug.. makes me productive :) === allee [~ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === seth_k [~seth@24-117-104-21.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === kafeine [~kori@212.39.73.142] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Zomb [~eb@x118.rhrk.uni-kl.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === alfa-00 [~alfa@202.84.223.108] has joined #ubuntu-devel === alfa-00 is now known as FundRaiser === chris38-home3 [~Christian@LNeuilly-152-22-2-96.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === chris38-home [~Christian@LNeuilly-152-22-2-96.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Amaranth [Amaranth@AC8F7144.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === davyd [~davyd@cugglephone.madeley.id.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:24] how broken is X today? [06:24] ie, did I pick a very bad day to switch to breezy? [06:26] davyd, I'm running upgraded X and breezy. no issues [06:26] davyd, you'll want to check the breezy forum if you just upgraded. probably some goodies there for you [06:27] will do in a minute, there seems to be new X packages to download [06:27] so I'm getting those now [06:27] good good [06:27] are you having issues? [06:27] yeah, it looks like X is trying to start, ie. flash flash flash flash (Screen on, screen off) [06:28] and then it stops and things lock up [06:28] although I still have system-requests [06:28] so it didn't take out my interrupt handlers [06:28] I figured I would check for new X before I started digging too deep [06:29] odd, haven't seen that one yet. The flavor of the day was libxcursor iirc, or maybe that was yesterday [06:35] seth_k: yeah, xcursor was yesterday's fun [06:35] davyd: if you've just upgraded and you have a custom config, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change your /usr/lib/X11/fonts fontpaths to /usr/share/X11/fonts [06:35] (or maybe they're /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts, who knows [06:36] somebody did a whopping good job on libxcursor... I upgraded, rebooted, no X, sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade and I was back in business [06:36] daniels: aah, I might have custom lines in my config, can I just regenerate the default Ubuntu config? [06:36] davyd, sure, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [06:36] davyd: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg [06:36] seth_k: um yeah, that was me === davyd looks up daniels' flags [06:37] eclipse 3.1... so.... close.... === wasabi pant. [06:37] oh right [06:39] wasabi, any more releases after rc2? or is final next [06:39] Dunno. It's close if nothing else. === blahrus [~blahrus@12-223-50-121.client.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:39] What I mean is that I'm almost done packaging RC2. [06:41] morning === zenrox [~zenrox@71.115.192.65] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:43] wasabi, for breezy, or for yourself? === seth_k yoinks a copy [06:43] breezy. [06:43] You may notice 3.0 is in breezy RIght Now. [06:43] yay [06:43] Multiverse though. [06:43] yes [06:44] i saw free java stuff got brought in? [06:44] i thought it didn't work [06:44] so we can put 3.1 in universe? [06:44] Well, technicall 3.0 is good for universe right now, but I don't want to move it. [06:44] hey, fedora core 4 has eclipse built as a native binary using gcj, you should grab their patches :) [06:44] Since 3.1 will be done soon. [06:45] gotcha [06:45] Amaranth, no need. [06:46] warning interface eth0 at line 2 is not safely mappable === davyd ponders that that means [06:46] generated by hotplug [06:46] error's been there forever. no clue what causes it, but harmless [06:46] although, working X [06:46] seth_k: goodo, I'll ignore it then === eruin [~eruin@213-145-179-140.dd.nextgentel.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:49] hmm, Fixed has gone missing from the fonts list :( [06:52] heh, i remember that error [06:52] you have X though? [06:53] yep, X is alive [06:57] daniels: you've been bang on the money so far, any idea why Fixed is a no go? === seth_k grumbles that siretart went offline in the one hour I was away === `anthony [~anthony@ekorp-203-63-137-225.eoff.ekorp.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Riddell [jr@muse.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:09] Riddell, you around? [07:15] hmm, suppose not. I apt-got kubuntu-desktop metapackage today on a fresh Breezy, sources updated, and it didn't pull in kdebase or kde-core. I had to install those separately before I had a working KDE install === rideout [~rideout@adsl-69-232-238-122.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === davyd [~davyd@cugglephone.madeley.id.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:29] davyd: try apt-get install --reinstall xfonts-base [07:30] daniels: seems not, could it be fontconfig? [07:31] I also have a copy of the font in my ~/.fonts directory [07:33] nope, the server doesn't use fontconfig [07:34] your font path is definitely /usr/share/X11/fonts/fo? [07:34] s/fo/foo/ [07:34] yep, X starts now, I have most fonts [07:34] word [07:34] except Fixed is never listed in my gtk2 apps [07:34] though it used to [07:34] that'd be a fontconfig thing [07:34] you'd need to change its paths also [07:35] autopackage needs to die >< [07:36] Does anyone know how to remove the debian menu entry that autopackage put in my Applications menu? === davyd forces fontconfig to regenerate it's cache === rideout [~rideout@adsl-69-232-238-122.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Konversation] [07:41] still not... [07:41] hmm [07:42] pfft, who needs the Fixed font anyway? :) [07:42] it's a nice terminal font [07:45] I see fontconfig has configuration to turn off non-scalable fonts [07:46] now to work out how to enable Fixed anyway [07:48] jdub: http://gsynaptics.sourceforge.jp/ [07:48] I saw that today (gsynaptics) That's awesome. === Speedy2 [~johnjacob@cpe-66-74-199-40.san.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:53] zing [07:54] http://oracle.bridgewayconsulting.com.au/~davyd/misc/20-davyd-enable-fixed.conf [07:55] not quite [07:59] ok, it works if you have the fonts in your .fonts [08:00] I'm sure I could fix that too [08:06] daniels: you want to fix dbus-mono, your Depends line refers to dbus-glib-1-dev [08:06] that should be libdbus-glib-1-dev [08:06] I am pretty sure that was your package === siretart [siretart@tauware.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:10] davyd: thanks, will do [08:10] oh, wait [08:10] no, not dbus-mono [08:10] that's deprecated and disappearing as soon as libgtk-cil hits main [08:10] oh ok [08:10] that explains why it's still broken for me [08:10] yeah [08:10] daniels: speaking of which.. would it be possible to make dbus not build-dep on mono stuff for sparc? [08:11] fabbione: sure' [08:11] i think ia64 and hppa would need the same kind of love [08:11] fabbione: but its b-ds are broken everywhere at the moment, so don't worry, it's not just you :) [08:11] daniels: given mono is not portable :( [08:11] yeah [08:11] daniels: yes i saw that :) [08:11] daniels: i tend to check pretty carefully all FTBFS [08:12] I thought Mono worked on Sparc nowadays [08:12] or is it that it works on Solaris x86? [08:12] davyd: on sparc/solairs.. that's what i was told [08:12] not sparc/linux [08:13] fabbione: but not on sparc/linux? [08:13] nutty [08:13] you would have thought that once you have to code to do evil things like passing parameters up and down the stack, the rest would be easy [08:13] At this point, only the Solaris operating system is supported. [08:13] Adding support for Linux/SPARC or UltraLinux requires somebody with the neccessary technical skills, motivation, and access to hardware to do the port. This effort boils down to adding support for the differences between Solaris and Linux and their ABI. [08:13] I guess no one who cares is running Linux on a Sparc [08:14] I wish I had the time to sit down and learn about that sort of stuff [08:14] davyd: usually who run sparc/linux is not for workstation [08:14] I'm sure I could be good at it [08:14] instead, all my engineering skills go to waste [08:14] but for servers === pitti [~pitti@195.227.105.180] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:15] hey pitti [08:16] fabbione: yeah [08:16] are you dudes going to officially support sparc? [08:16] Morning [08:17] i think fabbione has sparc builds but they're unofficial [08:18] ooppss sorry i didn't read the latter posts === davyd nods [08:18] supporting sparc would be an interesting move [08:18] we have one sparc workstation in the UCC, but it's a whore [08:18] davyd: i am building sparc64 yes [08:18] but it's not official [08:18] it's currently (trying to) run Solaris 10 [08:18] and probably won't be for a while [08:19] i am somehow stalling in a little loop [08:19] because i don't have enough cpu power to keep up with all the new packages [08:19] so basically it's never (or almost) installable === davyd smirks [08:19] that means not being able to build a community around it to help me supporting it :) [08:20] so i don't get CPU power to keep up [08:20] yeah, there can't be a big sparc desktop community around at all [08:20] I wonder what EE is doing with it's sparcstations [08:20] those are relatively grunty [08:20] they wouldn't give me an account on them to jhbuild with though [08:21] because they guy who's job it is to do Solaris adminning is a bit of a control freak [08:25] fabbione: what kind of cpu power do you have, and what would you need? [08:30] maswan: i have a netra t1 466Mhz [08:30] maswan: i think another buildd would do [08:30] doesn't need to be an E10K :) [08:31] fabbione: ok, I'll see what I can do [08:31] maswan: basically i need something that can build universe so that i can dedicate my machine to main [08:31] maswan: but i am not in a hurry to build universe in itself [08:32] maswan: that would be awesome [08:32] fabbione: we were thinking of putting this machine into d-d general use, but that is pending an exception to the general "only staff and students on the network"-rule === Speedy2 [~johnjacob@cpe-66-74-199-40.san.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:33] maswan: oh i see [08:33] fabbione: given that this has been pending for quite some time now, ... [08:33] we have an E4k running Debian now [08:34] maswan: yes i understand the uni-rules [08:34] this would be an E250 with 2x400MHz and 512 megs of ram. [08:34] neat [08:34] I'm not sure what's in this thing [08:34] or we have an E6k, but that's running Solaris 9 [08:34] fabbione: now, one buildd admin like you, we can sneak in. but not open up for a large ammount of developers. === AndyFitz [~andy@CPE-139-168-167-32.qld.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:36] fabbione: so, is it installable, or would a chroot install from a sarge host system be more likely to be usable? [08:36] maswan: i don't want to be a problem. if it is allowed good, otherwise please do not worry :) [08:36] State: [08:36] CPU0: online [08:36] CPU4: online [08:36] CPU5: online [08:36] CPU6: online [08:36] CPU7: online === AndyFitz [~andy@CPE-139-168-167-32.qld.bigpond.net.au] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [08:36] Cpu0Bogo : 332.80 [08:36] maswan: the machine can run whatever you want.. [08:36] fabbione: it's fine [08:36] davyd: please stop flooding [08:36] Linux manduba 2.6.8-2-sparc64-smp [08:37] fabbione: would that do? [08:37] maswan: i only need a sparcbuildd account and a breezy chroot (that i can scp from here) [08:37] apologies about the first 5 lines, they weren't meant to be pasted [08:37] fabbione: any kernel requirements? [08:37] davyd: that's a nice toy :) [08:38] fabbione: we have a Solaris 9 machine with 14 CPUs of similar capabilities [08:38] maswan: when/if ubuntu starts supporting AFS we can probably make it even less a problem... :-) [08:38] and someone just returned from the US with somewhere near 10gigs of RAM [08:38] maswan: nope.. i only need to be able to ssh in/out + access http://archive.u.c and http://ports.u.c [08:38] davyd: i did run debian on an E10K with 32 CPU / 32 GB of ram [08:39] davyd: i am not new to sparc hw [08:39] fabbione: we don't have one of those :( [08:39] I figured [08:39] I'm just trying to think what is useful [08:39] we can't complain at this stuff, it was free [08:39] and realistically, at the moment, both of them are being space heaters [08:40] they're hardly utilised [08:40] maswan: if you are going to create an account for me, please call it sparcbuildd and not just buildd as it is used to be [08:40] fabbione: ack [08:42] maswan: thanks [08:43] fabbione: Ok, so can I get an ssh key for that? [08:43] maswan: sure.. [08:43] maswan: email address? [08:44] maswan@acc.umu.se, please sign the mail [08:44] maswan: clearly :) [08:46] maswan: on the way === mvo [~egon@ip181.135.1511I-CUD12K-01.ish.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:47] maswan: i will need some sudo privileges to install a few packages on the main hosts (like wanna-build, buildd and sbuild) and to be able to manage the chroots [08:47] maswan: but we can talk about it later on... [08:47] if that's ok with you :) [08:48] Well, I'll think about it first, when I'm not so tired. :) === maswan handles the easy parts first. :) [08:49] maswan: eheh sure.. [08:49] thanks a lot [09:02] Kamion: which's the install option to avoid copying all the .debs to the hard disk during install? === Speedy2 [~johnjacob@cpe-66-74-199-40.san.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === maswan waits impatiently for the greylisting to do its magic [09:06] maswan: just go to sleep if you are tired :) [09:06] maswan: it's not something i need now :) [09:07] fabbione: I'm not going to sleep, I'm going out with family to do more violence to the old summer house. :) [09:11] maswan: go and have fun :) [09:13] fabbione: I will, as soon as they arrive with a car. :) [09:14] fabbione: anything you need immediately? [09:14] maswan: only you to confirm the keys [09:14] maswan: and no.. i want you to go out and have fun :) [09:14] maswan: i will setup the minimal stuff in the meanwhile [09:15] fabbione: well, I'll be around for a while, until I leave. :) === chmj [~d3vic3@dumbledore.hbd.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:33] hrm, no jbailey === calc_ [~ccheney@ip70-185-4-246.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Simira [~Simira@140.80-202-212.nextgentel.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Get [~gustav@h187n2fls31o1096.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sivang_ [~sivang@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === carlos [~carlos@69.Red-80-33-181.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === koke_ [~koke@155.210.13.152] has joined #ubuntu-devel === seb128 [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-26-8.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jlj [~agp@cm-80.111.99.032.chello.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [~jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel === calc [~ccheney@ip70-185-4-246.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === BeerDump [~jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zyga [~zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === BeerDump [~jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel === JaneW [~JaneW@wbs-146-182-37.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:17] JaneW, hello [10:18] morning JaneW [10:18] how was Bergen? [10:18] hello jgotangco [10:18] nice [10:22] wow you went to Norway? [10:23] go firefox [10:24] bob2: kill -9! [10:25] see, I'd like to leave it running for weeks [10:26] bob2: \o/ memory fragmentation [10:27] nah, it just screws up [10:27] like the address bar stops updating [10:27] and dialogs can't be closed anymore [10:28] bob2: get traces, file bugs === opi [~emil@nat0.mnc.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hno73 [~hno73@henrik.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:35] bob2: archive-copier/copy=false [10:35] ah, thanks === HiddenWolf [~HiddenWol@213-73-250-180.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:50] Treenaks: bleh, it's just in a poll loop [10:50] I so can't be arsed to recompile it with debugging symbols === calc_ [~ccheney@ip70-185-4-246.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:51] the udu and edubuntu wikis are going down temporarily [10:53] elmo: edubuntu has it's own wiki ? === marcin_ant [~marcin@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:54] sivang: yes === alerim [~alerim@courbevoie-101-1-185.net1.nerim.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:54] sivang, sure [10:55] sivang, it has its own ML :) [10:56] heh [10:57] i should subcribe to that [10:57] ogra, hello [10:58] jsgotangco, yes, go ahead :) [10:58] it needs a lot of love :) [10:59] jsgotangco, if everything goes fine i'll have the first edubuntu liveCD based on mdz's ltsp packages and the k12ltsp appset ready in two weeks === herzi [~herzi@c205010.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:00] ahhh i should get ready with that then === magnon [~magnon@magnon.photogeeks] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:03] Kamion: hey dude [11:03] oohh i see the evil hostmaster account [11:03] fabbione: morning [11:03] Kamion: got adsl at the new flat? :) [11:03] fabbione: yep [11:03] cool [11:04] up to megabit, about damned time [11:04] Kamion: ehheh neat :) [11:04] Kamion: installer/partman question... [11:04] how much do we care about aoe devices? [11:04]