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Eddiecd to its parent dir if you want to remove the folder12:00
djm62synd: cd unwanteddir; cd ..; rm -rf unwanteddir12:00
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djm62synd: or use nautilus, and have a wastebasket/bin/recyclingcenter/file heaven to get it back from12:01
syndalright, thanks for the help guys.12:01
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Eddiewhere all the good files go12:01
HablandocontigoIf esd is killall-ed will Ubuntu not restart esd untill reboot?12:02
EddieHablandocontigo: not unless you start it12:02
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cthulfuegoHablandocontigo: it will be restarted when you log out of X and log back in.12:02
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HablandocontigoEddie: very nice, I'm hoping that will fix my audacity-no-sound-device problem12:02
xiaogilHow to convert an HTML file from BIG5 to UTF8 ?12:03
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mjrxiaogil, recode or iconv; eg. recode big5..utf-8 foo.html12:04
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dhruvi need help real bad12:06
dhruvcan anyone help me12:06
dhruvneed major help!12:06
dhruvcant get mandriva cd to boot!12:06
jbroomei'm private help, dunno if I can do anything12:07
xiaogilmjr:  the command "recode big5..utf-8 00001.html" returns "recode: 00001.html failed: Invalid input in step `BIG5..UTF-8'"12:07
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dhruvhow do i boot a new OS12:07
djm62dhruv: you are in ubuntu12:07
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dhruvyes12:07
djm62in #ubuntu12:07
dhruvi want to install mandriva12:07
dhruvyeah i know12:07
mjrxiaogil, one would have to conclude that (it thinks) the file isn't proper big512:07
dhruvcause thats my OS right now12:07
jbroomecheck #mandrive12:07
dhruvbut how would they know how to install it on unbuntu12:08
dhruvubuntu*12:08
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mjrxiaogil, perhaps try variant BIG5HKSCS12:08
kvidellare you trying t odual boot?12:08
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djm62dhruv: the default is to back up your data and treat ubuntu like so much spare disk space12:08
dhruvi want to get ride of this12:08
dhruvyeah12:08
jbroomeinstall mandriva over ubuntu and that'll be it12:08
dhruvyeah12:08
dhruvthats what i want12:08
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kvidellwell.. go ahead :-P12:09
dhruvbut the cd wont boot12:09
jbroomeput the madriva cd in the machine, reboot you're done12:09
dhruvi did that12:09
djm62so, you boot from CD, same as you did to install ubuntu12:09
kvidellis your bios set to boot the CD?12:09
jbroomecheck your bios12:09
dhruvgoes to the ubuntu screen asking to load windows12:09
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dhruvrecover ubuntu12:09
dhruvor start regular12:09
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xiaogilmjr: that was a good idea (as my file is taken from a site in hong kong) but the result still gives : recode: 00001.html failed: Invalid input in step `BIG5HKSCS..UTF-8'12:09
kvidellis your bios set to boot from the CD?12:09
dhruvi did, default boot is at my cd drive12:09
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fabioHello all12:10
kvidelldid yo uget the Mandriva disk image from an official source?12:10
dhruvyes.12:10
djm62dhruv: this sounds like your mandriva CD isn't as bootable as it should be12:10
fabioGuys, anyone knows some good FTP Software for Ubuntu?12:10
dhruvwell its an iso12:10
dhruvand well12:10
dhruvi unrared it12:10
xiaogilmjr:  also, the file is correctly shown in firefox, and is said to be in BIG512:10
kvidellun rared?12:10
dhruvand burned that12:10
jbroomedhruv: that's the problem12:10
dhruvi c12:10
djm62fabio: a server? you can use firefox12:10
dhruvso burn as an image?12:10
kvidellindeed12:10
dhruvoh ok ill give that a try12:10
kvidellgood luck :)12:10
dhruvthanks kvidell12:10
chatzillaGuys, newb here. Thinking about going back to linux. I used Mandrake and RedHat in the past. I'm d/l'ing Unbuntu now but I have to ask, do I have to partition the disk before installing or will the distro do that?12:10
djm62dhruv: in nautilus, right-click on the iso12:11
fabiodjm62, hmm, well just need to upload my website to my space12:11
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dhruvnautilus?12:11
fabiochatzilla, do u want to install just ubuntu on that HDD>12:11
kvidellchatzilla: It'll give you some options for partitioning in the installer last I tried.12:11
dhruvwhat is nautilus?12:11
djm62fabio: nautilus is what I use for my website...drag and drop12:11
mjrxiaogil, bugger then... try iconv -f big5 -t utf-8 < 00001.html > 00001.utf-8.html, but it probably will complain about the same12:11
chatzillaFab, nad dual xp and unbutu12:11
fabiooh cool, how actually??12:12
djm62dhruv: the standard gnome file manager is deceptively powerful...nautilus12:12
chatzillakvidell: ty.12:12
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djm62fabio: Places->Connect to server on the top menu bar12:12
chatzillaSo it's just one CD, tis all?12:12
kvidellchatzilla: Er.. well.. if you're dualbooting it might be tricky to do from inside the ubuntu install, I've never tried personally :-\12:12
djm62at the top of your screen right now...12:12
kvidellyea, one cd12:12
fabiodjm62, ohh cool! Thanks!! I thougt I had to use something like in Windows such as CuteFtp12:13
kvidellchatzilla: hang on to this url when you're all setup: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=108587&postcount=1 it's a handy'un for new users :)12:13
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anto9uschatzilla: the installer will allow you to erase specific partions and create new partitions of sizes that you specify, or you use your current ones and just specify mount points12:13
chatzillakvidell: 10/412:13
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djm62fabio: :) nice to be the opposite of disappointed12:13
chatzillaanto9us: I'll give that a shot.12:14
fabiodjm62, I will just go and have a shot, will let you know, thanks anyway12:14
chatzillaAmazing stuff, when I installed RH 3 years ago, it was like 6 or 7 CDs heh.12:14
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djm62chatzilla: the gzip team have been working really hard ;)12:15
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anto9uschatzilla: yeah, I was quite amazed by the content of the single ubuntu cd12:15
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xiaogilmjr: do you understand chinese ?12:16
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fabiodjm62,  You are GREAT!!!!12:17
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djm62it was the devs wot done it12:17
fabiodjm62, it worked at the first time, woow! thanks a lot man!12:18
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mjrxiaogil, no12:19
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djm62somebody thought about making that work, someone thought about how it should be, lots of people helped code...and I get the credit for pointing ;)12:19
xiaogilmjr: french ?12:19
mjrno12:19
chatzillaInstall CD is graphical, right guys?12:20
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bartekpchatzilla: text12:20
chatzillaouch.12:20
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cthulfuegochatzilla: ncurses, with menus and buttons.12:21
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mindspinhi, for disabling acpi what do I have to add to /boot/grub/menu lst ? acpi no or acpi=0 or acpi=no ?12:21
chatzillaAh ... better.12:21
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anto9uschatzilla: it's easy :)12:21
mjrchatzilla, what did you think then?12:21
cthulfuegochatzilla: It only runs for 10 minutes, so there's no real reason why it would need to be a slow-ass mouse-requiring GUI12:21
chatzillamjr, kinda like ol' rh or mandrake style12:22
IcemanV9mindspin: acpi=off12:22
chatzillaRight on cthulfuego.12:22
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mindspinhaha, thanks12:22
LokeDKDoes anyone know how to get Creative SoundBlaster Audigy 2 to work in ubuntu?12:22
chatzillahehe12:22
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hugosdoes anyone know why this is happening? -> hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01)12:23
alekzandri have installed qmail, and i need to remove exim without removing courier et al, is there a way to remove exim only?12:23
cthulfuegoalekzandr: By using qmail *packages* that provide mta sure12:23
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seth_kLokeDK: see http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=32920812:24
pfpalekzandr: apt-get install qmail exim-   <-- note the '-'12:25
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LokeDKseth_k, I'll have a look thx12:26
alekzandrpfp: i already have qmail installed manually, from source, not a qmail package, do you mean replacing the hand made qmail with a debian package of it?12:27
djm62exim posse, mofo12:27
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LokeDKbut alsamixer says "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device"12:28
The_Antipophi12:28
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The_Antipopanyone  have experience with the wupdater.exe problem12:28
The_Antipopin windows?"12:28
djm620_012:28
chatzillaCd's ready  ::drum:: Later guys.12:28
The_Antipophaha12:28
cthulfuegoThe_Antipop: Check the channel name.12:28
The_Antipopi know12:29
The_Antipopthere was someone on here a bit ago who knew about hthat12:29
The_Antipopsorry12:29
djm62I don't own windows...12:29
anto9usThe_Antipop: you have some registry editing ahead of you12:29
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The_Antipopi know12:29
djm62but there is a #windows channel, IIRC12:29
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The_Antipopdo you know wat ur talking about? ill open up a chat with you'12:29
cthulfuegoIf you wipe windows and use ubuntu, you wouldn't have these problems.12:29
syndheh12:29
matrixhi i am trying to setup apache with ssl, but when i start it it says my ssl certificate CommonName doesn't mach servername. i used the hostname12:30
xiaogilmjr: the html file i'm trying to convert contains characters that use a special font which characters are encoded between U+E000 and U+F8F712:30
pfpalekzandr: myes that command would do it. if you want to keep your handbuilt qmail, you can install a dummy pkg that satifies the dependency, with equivs12:30
pfpalekzandr: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-helpers.en.html#s-equivs12:30
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cthulfuegoDoes ubuntu include nullmailer?12:30
gahanwhere in gnome can i manage my desktop/workplace?12:30
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Burgundaviacthulfuego, if it is in Debian, it is in Ubuntu, and yes12:31
Burgundaviagahan, what do you want to do?12:31
djm62xiaogil: can you mostly convert and manually type some, or is that inappropriate?12:31
The_Antipopanot9us can u open up a privat ecaht12:31
gahanreduce number of workplaces and add some nice icons on my first workplace12:31
alekzandrpfp: thanks12:31
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anto9usThe_Antipop: my rates are 35 per hour for fixing windows machines12:31
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nernis there any way to do an ubuntu netinstall?12:31
cthulfuegoanto9us: whoa, cheap!12:32
djm62gahan: you can just drag and drop icons12:32
The_Antipophaha12:32
The_Antipopplease12:32
xiaogildjm62: that would be inappropriate, because to many file to convert12:32
gahandjm62: great12:32
Burgundaviagahan, to reduce the number of workspaces, right click on the workspace thing12:32
gahanBurgundavia: i've removed it :) hihi12:32
djm62xiaogil: ah, damn...just in case12:32
The_Antipopim on ubuntu right now12:32
pedro_alguien habla espaol12:32
The_Antipopi loves it12:32
The_Antipopi jsut can install it now12:32
The_Antipop#cant12:32
nernubuntu netinstall???12:32
The_Antipopplease help12:32
nernis it possible?12:32
Burgundavianern, yes you can, but I have no idea how to do it12:33
djm62pedro_: #ubuntu-es would be good for you :)12:33
nernthank you12:33
sinopehi12:33
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gahanok all configured12:33
gahanthx12:33
xiaogildjm62, mjr: The file i'm trying to convert is the following : "http://www.chant.org/scripts/chant/icb_result.asp?title=H00001", and it uses the following font : "http://www.chant.org/info/download/ics3.ttf"12:33
gahan=)12:33
sinopehow can i get my console to have higher resolution?12:33
The_Antipopanto9us?12:33
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BurgundaviaThe_Antipop, this is #ubuntu but I might be able to help you with your windows issue (am a MCP)12:33
sinoperight now it's real blocky.... looks like some sort of ega display12:33
The_Antipopok12:33
The_Antipopthatnk12:33
sinopei want mode 773, like i had on slackware12:34
cthulfuegonern: You can always do a debian netinst and manually edit sources.list to point it at ubuntu.12:34
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sinopeanyone know how to do this on ubuntu?12:34
brlancerI'm trying to install ubuntu to hda2; win32 is on hda1 - it won't let me set both of them as bootable in the installer12:34
anto9usThe_Antipop: boot in safe mode, hack the registry, look for your viruses and aliases and erase those entries12:34
nerncthulfuego: yeah i thought of that.. do you think it would work ok?12:34
cthulfuegosinope: Just add it to the boot loader config12:34
cthulfuegonern: Worked OK for me, about 6 months ago.12:34
brlancerdo I just have to wait until I'm in and then run fdisk to fix it?12:34
sinopecthulfuego: ah, that's what i would do on slack... but i'm useless with grub :(12:34
The_Antipopthank you12:34
The_Antipophow do i hack the registry?12:34
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sinopeThe_Antipop: good question.12:35
cthulfuegosinope: /boot/grub/menu.lst12:35
sinopeThe_Antipop: not a short answer.12:35
anto9usThe_Antipop: then run a virus scan with an up-to-date checker and hack the registry again and repeat this process till clean12:35
cthulfuegosinope: Append tit to the line that starts with 'kernel'12:35
sinopecthulfuego: thanks!12:35
sinopeappend what?12:35
sinopehow rude.12:35
sinope;)12:35
cthulfuegosinope: either 'vga=773' or 'video=....' for your particular framebuffer mode.12:35
mjrxiaogil, iconv apparently gives the position where it thinks there is invalid big5; see that and try fixing manually12:36
anto9usThe_Antipop: start | run | regedit although your virus may prevent it, hence safe mode12:36
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sinopecthulfuego: okay :) hopefully it'll work12:36
mjrxiaogil, also, it gives different positions for big5 and big5hkscs12:36
The_Antipopsafe mode still ownt let me log in12:36
mjrxiaogil, but that's about it for my expertise12:37
cthulfuegoThe_Antipop: Start in safe mode, rename the actual visrus file, create a text file with the same name, copy that to where the virus file was, make sure to chattr it, so ti can't be overwritten, restart, remove the virus with the virusscanner, remove the text file. Done.12:37
xiaogilmjr: ok. how can i cat the file from this xxxx position ?12:37
sinopecthulfuego: do i need to run "grub" now, to update it?12:37
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sinopecthulfuego: as i would with lilo?12:37
kvidellsinope: Nope12:38
cthulfuegosinope: Nope, juste dit the file and all done.12:38
sinopegreat12:38
mjrxiaogil, dd seek=1234 if=file for example12:38
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sinopewell, i'm off to reboot12:38
sweatyHi, dist-upgrade'ed into breezy. Now x11 wont work... if i apt-get install x-window-system it complains about twm error... I know many ppl has been in this situation... Could anybody please tell me how to fix it? I sort of cant search the web in this terminal12:38
The_AntipopI CANT START IN SAFE MODE12:38
sinopethanks guys!12:38
kvidellThe_Antipop: Why not?12:38
sinopesweaty: /topic12:38
The_Antipopit locks me out12:38
zth_has anyone got jackd to work? :S12:38
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kvidellhow so?12:38
mjrxiaogil, though the iconv output seems to end where it screws up, and that's kinda indicative of the position as well12:38
The_Antipopremember, i cant log in12:38
The_Antipopsafe mode or otherwise12:38
LinuxJonessweaty, Breezy is broken12:38
cthulfuegoThe_Antipop: Well, then you should go to microsoft.com and ask them for support.12:38
The_Antipopok then12:38
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jamesmis there a list of ubuntu packages?12:39
sweatyLinuxJones: i see :) well i'll just stick around in the terminal then for some weeks haha ^^ thx anyway12:39
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djm62sweaty: also, the wiki has stuff on fixing that...apt-cache search surfraw apt-cache search lynx12:39
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EudoxusI'm having a trouble with xmms. It hangs when I start to play a file. Why12:39
LinuxJonessweaty, try a few months :)12:39
sinopewell, i'm back12:39
justinwith windows being the "supported" os, finding help should be easy :-)12:39
sinopei forgot, i have a torrent download that i really don't want to kill12:39
sinope:)12:39
anto9usEudoxus: delete ~/.xmms/config12:40
xiaogilmjr: the command "dd seek=2317 if=00001.html" gives no result12:40
sinopeso... i'll reboot in 21 hours 28 minutes.12:40
bartekpEudoxus: killall esd (;12:40
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hugosEudoxus, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063&highlight=multiple12:40
mjrxiaogil, oh yeah, sorry, bs=1 also12:40
avalentehi*** how can I add Keyboard shortcuts for XMMS? on the preferences app, it doesn't work.. i've searched google, forums and guide* thanks12:40
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sinopeavalente: use xbindkeys12:40
xiaogilmjr: what do you mean ?12:40
sinopegreat app12:40
Eudoxusanto9us, I shall try.12:40
mjrxiaogil, add bs=1 to the dd command12:40
Eudoxusbartekp, I shall try12:40
sweatydjm62: thx i will check it out the official ubuntu wiki no?12:40
avalentesinope: works with gnome?12:41
djm62sweaty: yeah, google it12:41
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xiaogilmjr: "dd seek=2317 if=00001.html bs=1" gives nothing too12:41
sinopeavalente: yep, go to preferences -> sessions -> startup programs and add it in12:41
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EudoxusOkay I tried those two things and they worked.12:41
sinopeavalente: it will always run then12:41
EudoxusSo, which of them really did the trick???12:41
sinopeavalente: you need to edit .xbindkeysrc12:42
tony__How do you make the tree show in Nautilus?12:42
sinopeavalente: read the docs, it's real easy12:42
xiaogilmjr: i'm thinking about another solution which would be to change the encoding of my terminal into BIG5, would you know how to do that ?12:42
anto9usEudoxus: mine did ;)12:42
mjrxiaogil, oops, "skip" instead of "seek"12:42
tony__It say "view, show tree" but I do see that option...12:42
avalentesinope: thanks**12:42
mjrxiaogil, from the terminal menu12:42
Eudoxusanto9us, u sure?12:43
sinopeavalente: :) sure, come back if you have trouble12:43
tony__Positive..12:43
Eudoxusanto9us, because the file has reappeared again and it's still working :)12:43
anto9usEudoxus: did it work before you started playing around with visualisations?12:43
pfptony__: edit - preferences - behaviour - always open in browser windows12:43
Eudoxusanto9us, nah I believe the other thing about esd did the trick12:43
Eudoxusbecause if I reload esd, winamp hangs again12:44
Eudoxusso now I should perhaps uninstall esd12:44
Eudoxusright?12:44
tony__THANKS!!!12:44
bartekpEudoxus: turn off esd in gnome preferences12:44
anto9usEudoxus: I was teasing, I really don't know which worked mate12:44
Eudoxusbartekp, where do you see that preferences12:44
hugosEudoxus, there is a nice howto @ http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063&highlight=multiple12:44
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hugosEudoxus, I had that problem today and already fixed it!12:45
Eudoxushugos, ah thanks I will take a look at that too!12:45
xiaogilmjr: let's try something... Can you describe what do you see if I write this : 12:45
matt__Looking for some help with ati driver for a laptop12:45
Eudoxushugos, this might be what I need. besides playing multiple sounds is a must12:45
gahancan i bind aptg-et to selected ip addr?12:45
gahanapt-get even12:45
Burgundaviamatt__, have you seen wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto ?12:45
mjrxiaogil, three vertical lines, middle highest, with a horizontal line on the bottom12:46
hugosEudoxus, check it out :P12:46
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synicis there no openoffice2 for amd64 ?12:46
matt__nope12:46
bartekpEudoxus: system -> preferences -> sound? sorry, I have gnome with polish locale12:46
EudoxusAh. But first: How do I setup a proxy server in Console??12:47
xiaogilmjr: okay, that wasn't what I expected 'cause you have chinese fonts in your system... if you didn't, you would probably see a square with the unicode of the character...12:47
Eudoxushttp proxy12:47
djm62xiaogil: I saw some characters, but mostly not12:47
Fanskapetahh ordered some CD's from ubuntulinux today to share amongs my freinds :)12:47
Fanskapettry to convince them testing ubuntu :)12:48
xiaogilmjr: do you know can i get only the "code" of characters when using the command "cat" or similar command ?12:48
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fabiohi all12:48
djm62xiaogil: hexdump ?12:48
matt__How do I install the fglrx-driver-dev12:48
anto9usEudoxus: Firestarter is a gui which will allow you to configure internet connection sharing12:49
mjrxiaogil, od (with appropriate formatting options)12:49
djm62fabio: how now12:49
matt__Why is it saying I have all these drivers installed for my ati card but its not working???12:50
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LinuxJonesfabio, welcome12:50
Eudoxusanto9us, i'll take a look12:50
fabiodjm62, hello, I am going mad, but I dunno if could help me, why when I try to setup a cms on my space it appears to read like this: http://www.weplay.co.uk/current/12:50
fabioLinuxJones, hello and thanks12:50
LinuxJonesmatt__, did you make the changes to your xorg.conf ?12:50
matt__What does Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".12:50
bartekpmatt__: fglrxconfig12:51
fabiodjm62, I mean why it reads as /home/www/hosts??12:51
djm62fabio: tell me the name of one file that should be there?12:51
fabiodjm62, just an index.php12:51
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djm62fabio: http://www.weplay.co.uk/current/index.php12:52
djm62fabio: possibly a more informative error?12:52
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xiaogildjm62, mjr: it doesn't give what i expected...12:52
djm62fabio: I think you're not uploading things to the directory you think you are12:52
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fabiodjm62, yes that's what I want to load, here is the simple index code: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/7412:53
fabiodjm62, hmm, I don't know, I mean it reads as /home/www/hosts ... so that's strange12:53
xiaogilI looks impossible to convert my file (http://www.chant.org/scripts/chant/icb_result.asp?title=H00001) into utf-812:53
djm62fabio: I don't know what your situation is...is that your own server, a virtual server or what?12:54
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fabiodjm62, nope I am trying to upload that stuff to my domain online, nope not my server, with the process you explained me before12:55
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fabiodjm62, it seems to work when uploading but I cannot even change the permissions once uploaded...12:55
matt__still getting Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". after doing the fglxconffig12:56
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djm62fabio: have you tried by right-clicking on the file?12:56
fabiodjm62, yes sure, as I do normally on the desktop12:56
LinuxJonesmatt__, you followed all of the instructions for hoary?12:57
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djm62hang on, I'll try to do it myself to check12:57
fabiodjm62, thanks12:57
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matt__as much as I could12:57
fabiodjm62, as you see it says The requested URL /home/www/hosts/weplay.co.uk was not found on this server, obviously, because it is looking at /home/www/hosts and this is strange12:58
matt__can get very far when I'm not really sure what I am doing12:58
xiaogildjm62, mjr: I tried to open the file with MS Explorer on windows, then i saved the file into UTF8 encoding, it works, so it should be possible to do it with Linux.12:58
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matt__Can someone help me figure out what I am doing wrong'12:59
BurgundaviaI am going to Seattle tomorrow and I wondered if anyone could sign my GPG key01:00
LinuxJonesmatt__, 1) you have the fglrx driver installed ok ?01:00
djm62fabio: it works for me over sftp...01:01
djm62fabio: I suspect you aren't in the folder you want to be on the remote server01:01
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fabiodjm62, that's strange, well I will try gFtp and see if it is ok, thanks anyway ;)01:02
zth_how do i check what's using my recording device (isn't that /dev/dsp or sumthing)01:02
djm62fabio: can you see the files here http://www.weplay.co.uk/01:02
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r3d0xXuS``Hello :D01:03
ampersandHi01:03
r3d0xXuS``i need really really help01:03
mjrxiaogil, report an iconv/recode bug if you think it's appropriate01:03
r3d0xXuS``i just installed my unbuntu and i forgot the password :S01:03
fabiodjm62, sure yes ;)01:03
djm62fabio: in nautilus?01:03
mjrxiaogil, though it might be that there's some ms non-standard in play here01:04
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LinuxJonesr3d0xXuS``, are you familiar with Linux ?01:04
bobbydhow do I get "for file in *; do echo $file; done" to work with sudu?01:04
bobbydsudo even :)01:04
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r3d0xXuS``no im new with linux :x01:04
lsuactiafnerbobbyd : just ls?01:04
r3d0xXuS``i just starting to learning linux :x01:04
fabiodjm62, yep01:04
bobbydlsuactiafner: obvoiusly I want to run a more complex command :)01:05
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pestilencer3d0xXuS``: when you boot, hit esc to get the menu, select "recovery mode", when it gets to a prompt, type "passwd <yourusername>", then type "reboot".  enjoy01:05
anto9usbobbyd: put it in a batch file and sudo that01:05
cyphaseoh my god!01:05
mjrxiaogil, (though if there is, iconv/recode might want to support it anyway)01:05
cyphaseyou won't believe what i heard on the radio!01:05
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cthulfuegopestilence: Not reboot, just exit.01:05
LinuxJonesr3d0xXuS``, I suggest you do a re-install (fixing it might scare you away). Don't forget your password on this install :)01:05
cthulfuegopestilence: it will then constinue booting up as epr normal.01:05
djm62fabio: I think your CMS is unsure what its directory is01:05
pestilencecthulfuego: will that continue the boot process01:05
pestilencecthulfuego: ah.01:05
r3d0xXuS``ok ill try pestilence01:05
bobbydanto9us: that's a bit of a overhead for just doing something simple...01:05
cthulfuegopestilence: (saves time ;-)01:05
cyphaseMicrosoft has found security problems in Windows and Internet Explorer!!!01:05
lsuactiafnerbobbyd : heh, put the command in a script and sudo script01:06
cyphaseoh my!01:06
cyphaselol01:06
djm62cyphase: well, that's everyone found one then01:06
anto9usbobbyd: run it from a root terminal then01:06
xiaogilmjr: perhaps i should add an option to iconv/recode to make it work (?)01:06
pfpbobbyd: sudo sh -c "for .... done"01:06
lsuactiafneri do.. for x in *.ppm; do foo=$(echo $x | sed -e 's:pict::' -e 's:\.ppm::'); convert $x pict${foo}.jpg; done01:06
lsuactiafnerputting in a script_file will also work nicely... i think.01:07
fabiodjm62, yes, what I was thinking ;P01:07
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r3d0xXuS``hm :xs01:07
r3d0xXuS``waiting :o01:07
r3d0xXuS``i hope i like linux more then windows xp :x01:08
cthulfuegor3d0xXuS``: What do you use your computer for?01:08
ampersandUbuntu's probably one of the best distributions to choose when coming from windows (:01:08
r3d0xXuS``learning programming :o01:08
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Jesterit depends if you're a geek or not01:08
r3d0xXuS``unknown user ?! wtf01:08
r3d0xXuS``pestilence ?!01:08
djm62r3d0xXuS``: give it a fair swing...it can be pretty comfortable01:08
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pestilencer3d0xXuS``: cat /etc/passwd01:09
r3d0xXuS``how i list usernames which one registered01:09
cthulfuegor3d0xXuS``: Then yes, although you should keep in mind there aren't really any point-and-click GUI dev tools01:09
r3d0xXuS``but it said : root@server1: passwd server101:09
cthulfuegor3d0xXuS``: 'getent passwd'01:09
cthulfuegor3d0xXuS``: Did you create a user called 'server1' ?01:09
djm62monodevelop, glade excepted01:10
r3d0xXuS``and it said back: unknown user server101:10
r3d0xXuS``yeah01:10
djm62and that KDE one01:10
r3d0xXuS``im in recovery mode01:10
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djm62eclipse01:10
cthulfuegor3d0xXuS``: Does 'getent passwd' list the user 'server1' ?01:10
r3d0xXuS``wait01:10
cthulfuegor3d0xXuS``: What does 'grep 1000 /etc/passwd' say?01:10
r3d0xXuS``lol a lot of lists01:11
r3d0xXuS``cant fint them lol01:11
r3d0xXuS``find*01:11
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pestilencer3d0xXuS``: paste the results from 'grep 1000 /etc/passwd' here.01:11
pestilenceshould be 1 line.01:11
r3d0xXuS``im on another pc :x01:11
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anto9uspythoncard is a good point and click development tool01:11
pestilencewell then type it here.01:11
djm62r3d0xXuS``:  you should get one line out01:11
cthulfuegor3d0xXuS``: Does that command print one line?01:11
cthulfuegoanto9us: Don't get me started on python ;-)01:12
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r3d0xXuS``should i write grep 1000 /etc/passwd into command?01:12
staceyHow do I fix my version in firefox?01:12
djm62r3d0xXuS``: grep home /etc/passwd01:12
cthulfuegor3d0xXuS``: yep01:12
anto9uscthulfuego: do you like/not like python?01:12
cthulfuegostacey: How is your version in firefox broken?01:12
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cthulfuegoanto9us: nup01:12
r3d0xXuS``/home/server1:/bin/bash01:13
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ubuntuhi again01:13
staceywhen i go to get extensions from mozilla website01:13
cthulfuegor3d0xXuS``: Does that line start with server1: ?01:13
cyphasewe know stacey01:13
Mikshow could i change my gnome language?01:13
r3d0xXuS``no01:13
cthulfuegor3d0xXuS``: What does it start with?01:13
r3d0xXuS``it said: /home/server1:/bin/bash01:13
xiaogilIs there a way to open any HTML file (with a browser, or something else) and to export it into UTF-8 ?01:13
cthulfuegor3d0xXuS``: Ok. let's fix this problem with a hammer.01:14
lsuactiafnerHTML2text or something..01:14
anto9uscthulfuego: what's your prefered programming language?01:14
staceyhow do i fix the problem01:14
lsuactiafnerhtml2text01:14
cthulfuegoanto9us: C01:14
anto9uscthulfuego: what do you think to c++?01:14
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djm62stacey: http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/upgrade/01:15
cthulfuegor3d0xXuS``: What does 'tail -n1 /etc/shadow' print out? ANything containinng 'server1' ?01:15
r3d0xXuS``wait01:15
cthulfuegoanto9us: fork in eyeball01:15
staceydjm62, wrong01:15
anto9ushehe01:15
Jesteris ubuntu the best distro for non-geeks in your humble opinions ?01:15
magoohi! how do i add stuff (dirs) to the places menu in gnome?01:15
staceymy brother told me i had to change something in about:config01:15
lsuactiafnerJester : i imagine is it..01:15
staceybut i forgot01:15
mjrJester, yes01:15
BurgundaviaJester, I think it is01:15
r3d0xXuS``cthulfuego: gdm:!:12949:0:99999:7:::01:15
djm62stacey: that's the one01:15
ubuntuyes01:15
ubuntubut im a geek01:16
djm62stacey: follow the "you seem to be using ubuntu" link01:16
Jesterok thx01:16
ubuntuit is veerry noob friendly and a great transision from windows01:16
cthulfuegor3d0xXuS``: Does it show anything when you type 'grep server1 /etc/shadow' ?01:16
r3d0xXuS``moment01:16
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pfpstacey: you should change 'version' in 'about:config' probably01:16
djm62stacey: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10681#c301:16
r3d0xXuS``nothing01:16
r3d0xXuS``cthulfuego: nothing01:16
cthulfuegor3d0xXuS``: Ok.01:16
cthulfuegor3d0xXuS``: run 'nano /etc/passwd' and delete the entire line containing /home/server1. take EXTREME CARE to not delete anything else.01:17
r3d0xXuS``ok what i should do01:18
r3d0xXuS``there is a list01:18
r3d0xXuS``with root and daemon and so going on01:18
cthulfuegor3d0xXuS``: Just use the arrow keys to scroll down and delete the line with server101:18
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r3d0xXuS``there is a line: server1:x:1000:1000:server1,,,:/home/server1:/bin/bash01:19
pestilencehahaha01:19
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cthulfuegor3d0xXuS``: Yes, delete it.01:19
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r3d0xXuS``ok deleted01:19
r3d0xXuS``what now?01:19
cthulfuegor3d0xXuS``: Save the file.01:19
cthulfuegor3d0xXuS``: ... and quite nano.01:19
r3d0xXuS``what button01:20
cthulfuegoquit, too.01:20
r3d0xXuS``to save01:20
cthulfuegor3d0xXuS``: ctrl-x, then 'y'01:20
r3d0xXuS``ok01:20
r3d0xXuS``how quit nano01:20
djm62r3d0xXuS``: that was both01:20
r3d0xXuS``ah01:20
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r3d0xXuS``there its promt01:20
r3d0xXuS``so what now01:20
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cthulfuegor3d0xXuS``: Cool. Now type 'adduser server1'01:20
EudoxusWhy does my internet suddenly get so slow from time to time? For example, when I load webpages, I get a delay time first before the page is displayed. This never happened in Win, so it must be some setting within Linux. Any ideas?01:21
djm62Eudoxus: any particular culprits?01:21
r3d0xXuS``lol01:21
cthulfuegoYeah, I have ideas, but I'll need twenty badgers and a jar of vaseline!01:21
r3d0xXuS``fullname r\r/^[[D and so01:21
r3d0xXuS``how delete ?!01:22
Eudoxuswhat is a cluprit?01:22
EudoxusNo01:22
Eudoxusit happens on all pages01:22
bobbyddoes anyone here have symlinks working with apache under ubuntu? The default apache config has FollowwSymLinks set for /var/www but it's not working01:22
cthulfuegor3d0xXuS``: ctrl-u01:22
Eudoxuseven on irc. took me delay to join this channel01:22
r3d0xXuS``it come: ^U ^U ^U01:22
ShachafEudoxus: Try http://www.tweakfactor.com/articles/tweaks/firefoxtweak/4.html01:22
cthulfuegor3d0xXuS``: ctrl-\01:22
EudoxusShachaf, it's not just firefox :S01:22
r3d0xXuS``nothing01:22
cthulfuegobobbyd: FollowwSymLinks or FollowSymLinks ?01:22
EudoxusIt's the console to01:22
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djm62Eudoxus: has anything else changed? that doesn't sound like a linux thing01:22
Eudoxusirc01:22
srbaker_yo01:23
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ShachafEudoxus: Oh.01:23
r3d0xXuS``i have U.S. Keyboard even DE keyboard01:23
Eudoxuseven when I ssh to some server01:23
Eudoxuseverything is slow01:23
srbaker_how do i get discover to re-scan for my sound card?01:23
EudoxusBut it gets fixed sometimes when I reboot01:23
ShachafEudoxus: Never mind, then.01:23
bobbydcthulfuego: the correct one, it's set by default01:23
LinuxJonesEudoxus, it's probably ipv6.01:23
EudoxusSometimes it happens and sometimes not. But it seems it doesn't get fixed until I reboot01:23
bobbydcthulfuego: in 000-default01:23
EudoxusLinuxJones, hmm01:23
Eudoxuseh?01:23
LinuxJonesEudoxus, you use firefox ?01:23
cthulfuegor3d0xXuS``: ctrl-c ?01:23
Eudoxusyes I do01:23
srbaker_anyone?01:23
LinuxJonesEudoxus, ok hit ctrl+t to open a new tab01:24
Eudoxusbut this doesn't happen only in firefox like I said01:24
r3d0xXuS``its abborted @ cthulfuego01:24
srbaker_i changed sund cards and sound isn't working.  although it seems to be detected fnie01:24
cthulfuegor3d0xXuS``: Ok, start again and don't typo this time.01:24
r3d0xXuS``ok lol01:24
Eudoxusok01:24
Eudoxusdone01:24
cthulfuegor3d0xXuS``: 'adduser server1'01:24
LinuxJonesEudoxus, type in about:config01:24
r3d0xXuS``the user "server1" already sxists01:24
r3d0xXuS``exists01:24
r3d0xXuS``again nano ?01:24
r3d0xXuS``:o01:24
EudoxusLinuxJones, done01:25
LinuxJonesEudoxus, in the filter box type ipv601:25
pestilencer3d0xXuS``: passwd server101:25
cthulfuegor3d0xXuS``: nano /etc/shadow, delete the 'server1' line.01:25
r3d0xXuS``ok01:25
r3d0xXuS``updated01:25
cthulfuegopestilence: no, coz it ONLY has a shadow entry now.01:25
Eudoxusdone01:25
r3d0xXuS``pw is updated01:25
r3d0xXuS``should i reboot now @ cthulfuego01:25
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Eudoxusstatus = default, type = boolean, value = false01:25
cthulfuegor3d0xXuS``: That's peculiar.01:25
Eudoxusthat's what it is01:25
cthulfuegor3d0xXuS``: Can you type 'su - server1' ?01:25
LinuxJonesEudoxus, double click the line so it says True in the 'value' section at the end of the line01:25
r3d0xXuS``lol its rebooting :o01:25
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r3d0xXuS``wait :P01:25
Eudoxusdone01:26
Eudoxusdo I need to reboot now?01:26
igor47hey.  how do i set up an hpoj printer?  i have hpoj running with the printer detected, but i'm not sure what i should do now...01:26
LinuxJonesEudoxus, restart FF01:26
Eudoxushow does this change anything away from firefox?01:26
LinuxJonesEudoxus, jsut close it down and restart01:26
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Eudoxusok01:26
LinuxJonesEudoxus, it jsut disables a useless feature for most users yoyu will notice no difference except faster webbrowsing ... hopefully :)01:27
Eudoxusstill the abnormal delays01:27
anto9usEudoxus: does it seem to delay while looking up address?01:27
Eudoxusanto9us, yea when it says Connecting to <some page>01:27
pestilenceEudoxus: go to a command prompt and type "dig www.ubuntuguide.org"01:27
LinuxJonesEudoxus, you have to close firefox down all of you firefox windows first01:28
Eudoxuspestilence, ok one sec01:28
r3d0xXuS``yay it works @ cthulfuego01:28
r3d0xXuS``thx01:28
anto9usEudoxus: the delay is before or after it says connecting?01:28
EudoxusLinuxJones, I did01:28
pestilencepaste at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl01:28
synd!flood01:28
ubotuI guess flood is Head for the hills the flood has come! please use http://pastebin.com , http://ubuntu.pastebin.com or #flood here on freenode.01:28
Eudoxusanto9us, while it is connecting01:28
Eudoxusbut then after transfer comes, it seems smooth01:28
LeeColletoni'm having trouble with iaxcomm in ubuntu.  no audio is sent01:28
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r3d0xXuS``WTF01:28
r3d0xXuS``cthulfuego !!!01:29
pestilencesynd: was that directed at me?01:29
syndpestilence: no01:29
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syndpestilence: just seeing what ubotu had under flood01:29
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pestilenceah01:29
syndubotu forget flood01:29
ubotui forgot flood, synd01:29
r3d0xXuS``cthulfuego i need ur help :x01:29
pestilencer3d0xXuS``: just ask your question01:29
Eudoxusso, no ideas?01:30
anto9usEudoxus: so address resolution is quick and transfer is quick but the bit in between isn't, right?01:30
pestilenceEudoxus: what was the result of that command?01:30
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djm62r3d0xXuS``: what's up?01:30
Eudoxus;; Query time: 1003 msec01:30
pestilenceEudoxus: that's a problem01:30
r3d0xXuS``cant start my username :x it said: there is no a homedir for server1 do u want contiune? i pressed yes and it said: u were not longer then 10 seconds on your session. this will stop now and please debug this error01:30
r3d0xXuS``cthulfuego01:30
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pestilenceEudoxus: that's almost certainly your problem.01:31
r3d0xXuS``now im in Terminal @ cthulfuego01:31
pestilenceEudoxus: perhaps you need to figure out what should be in /etc/resolv.conf and fix that.01:31
djm62r3d0xXuS``: not a problem...press ctrl-alt-f101:31
synd!flood is for pasting, please use http://pastebin.com , http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or #flood here on freenode.01:31
ubotusynd: okay01:31
pestilencer3d0xXuS``: you need to go back into recovery mode and mkdir /home/server101:31
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Eudoxushmmmm. how in name am I gonna find that out?01:32
djm62pestilence: does he need to if he can log in on console and is in sudoers?01:32
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r3d0xXuS``it said: NO DIRECTORY, LOGGING IN WITH HOME @ djm6201:32
pestilencedjm62: i doubt that he is in sudoers, but it's worth a shot i guess.01:32
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djm62r3d0xXuS``: on ctrl-alt-f1? cool, then you type sudo -s and type server1's passwd01:33
cthulfuegor3d0xXuS``: Is there a /home/server1? What are the permissions on /home/server1 ?01:33
pestilenceEudoxus: i'm not sure where windows keeps its information on domain name servers, but you could compare with that if windows is getting the correct ones.01:33
r3d0xXuS``server1 is not in the suedoers file. this incident will be reported @ djm6201:33
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pestilencer3d0xXuS``: reboot into recovery mode01:34
djm62sh*te01:34
pestilencer3d0xXuS``: you are getting there.01:34
Eudoxuspestilence, I will try01:34
r3d0xXuS``lol i cant reboot01:34
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r3d0xXuS``it said: reboot: must be a superuser01:34
pestilencesure you can.  hit the power button01:34
cthulfuegor3d0xXuS``: Yes you can. Hit the reset button on the case.01:34
r3d0xXuS``lol ok lol01:34
djm62r3d0xXuS``: yeah, recovery it is...if necessary hit the power button and start up01:34
r3d0xXuS``ah01:34
Eudoxuspestilence, I could also try and reboot until I get it fast again (it runs fine sometimes) and check resolv.conf then01:34
r3d0xXuS``there01:34
r3d0xXuS``lol01:34
r3d0xXuS``:D01:34
pestilenceEudoxus: are you behind a router?01:35
anto9usEudoxus: underneath query time what was the Server adress?01:35
Eudoxuspestilence, nope01:35
jargon_which runlevel is multi-user w/o X , ? is it 3 ?01:35
pestilenceEudoxus: do you use dhcp?01:35
magoohey. smeg is nice. is there a way to customize the places and system gnome menus as well? any ideas?01:35
djm62jargon_: this isn't redhat01:35
cthulfuegojargon_: There isn't one, if you have a dm installed.01:35
cthulfuegodjm62: s/redhat/any sane linux distro/   ;-)01:35
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djm62jargon_: you can do /etc/init.d/gdm stop01:35
pestilencer3d0xXuS``: first things first.  type "visudo"01:35
Eudoxusanto9us, 130.208.165.82#53(130.208.165.82)01:35
r3d0xXuS``wait01:36
Eudoxuspestilence, yes I use dhcp01:36
FunraiserDaniel Robbins, founder and chief architect of the Gentoo distribution is now working for microsoft...:-s01:36
jargon_djm62, oh ok , thanks01:36
r3d0xXuS``ok pestilence?01:36
r3d0xXuS``Terminal or Gnome recovery mode?01:36
djm62cthulfuego: the 1 runlevel thing makes more sense on a desktop...which is why it's odd debian came up with it01:36
pestilencer3d0xXuS``: now make sure that there is a line in there that says "server1 ALL=(ALL) ALL"01:36
anto9usEudoxus: I get a good response time from that, around 90ms01:36
pestilencer3d0xXuS``: terminal.01:37
djm62jargon_: I presume you can guess how to restart X ;)01:37
r3d0xXuS``PERMISSION DENIED01:37
EudoxusYes it's strange01:37
EudoxusIt is not an problem that happens always.01:37
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JesterFunraiser, thats impossible01:37
JesterFunraiser, gimme a link01:37
pestilencer3d0xXuS``: you hit escape and selected "recovery mode" from the grub menu?  just like last time?01:38
djm62r3d0xXuS``: are you in recovery mode?01:38
Funraiserreally?01:38
jargon_djm62, yeah, i'm fine w/ that , thrown off w/ the inittab file saying 2-5 are all multi-user01:38
Funraiserhold on01:38
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r3d0xXuS``yeah01:38
Funraiserhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/06/14/_microsoft_gentoo/01:38
matt__Why is this coming up01:38
matt__matt@ubuntu:~$ fglrxinfo Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".01:38
matt__display: :0.0  screen: 001:38
matt__OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org01:38
matt__OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect01:38
matt__OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.2.1)01:38
pestilencer3d0xXuS``: that should dump you at a console, no questions asked01:38
JesterFunraiser, as a long time gentoo user its hard for me to believe =O01:38
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matt__I have tryed everything01:38
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pestilencematt__: don't paste here.01:38
matt__I installed the ati drivers01:38
matt__sorry01:38
EudoxusWait I'm going to try to reboot and see if it gets ok again01:38
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Eudoxuspestilence, anto9us brb mates01:39
pestilenceEudoxus: before you do01:39
Eudoxusgonna reboot and see if it fixes01:39
pestilenceEudoxus: cat /etc/resolv.conf01:39
Eudoxusok01:39
djm62r3d0xXuS``: if gnome is up, you're not in recovery mode01:39
pestilenceEudoxus: and note what is in it01:39
r3d0xXuS``i know01:39
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Eudoxusyea and?01:39
matt__can someone help me get this video card working plesae01:39
Eudoxusah ok01:39
EudoxusI will01:39
r3d0xXuS``ah now im in01:40
LinuxJonesmatt__, Does this command output anything >> lsmod | grep fglrx01:40
pestilencer3d0xXuS``: now type "visudo"01:40
r3d0xXuS``pestilence im hin01:40
r3d0xXuS``pestilence: root ALL=(ALL) ALL01:40
Funraiserwant more? http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/06/14/_microsoft_gentoo/01:40
pestilencer3d0xXuS``: make sure that there is a line in there that says "server1 ALL=(ALL) ALL"01:40
Eudoxusbrb mates01:40
matt__fglrx                 238208  001:40
pestilencer3d0xXuS``: change root to server101:40
r3d0xXuS``ok01:40
pestilencer3d0xXuS``: actually, just copy that line01:40
r3d0xXuS``ok01:41
pestilencer3d0xXuS``: don't change it01:41
pestilencer3d0xXuS``: and change the copied line to server101:41
LinuxJonesmatt__, did you edit the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?01:41
matt__what do I edit01:41
r3d0xXuS``ok01:41
r3d0xXuS``did01:41
r3d0xXuS``reboot?01:41
pestilencer3d0xXuS``: not yet01:41
djm62r3d0xXuS``: give yourself a home directory01:41
pestilencer3d0xXuS``: now type mkdir /home/server101:41
LinuxJonesmatt__, it's on the binary howto you have to follow all of those steps01:41
pestilencer3d0xXuS``: and then chown server1:server1 /home/server101:42
matt__this page http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24557.html01:42
r3d0xXuS``chown: cannot access "home/server1": No Such file or directory01:42
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pestilenceyou forgot the trailing /01:42
r3d0xXuS``ah01:42
r3d0xXuS``lol01:42
pestilenceerr leading /01:42
djm62r3d0xXuS``: the / before home01:43
LinuxJonesmatt__, Edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change "ati" to "fglrx"01:43
matt__LinuxJones: whats the site01:43
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EudoxusOkay, it's working smooth again. Now let me compare the resolv.conf01:43
r3d0xXuS``cannot create directory "/home/server1" file exists01:43
EudoxusVery strange01:43
Eudoxusexactly same output01:43
LinuxJonesmatt__, Follow the Hoary instructions >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto01:43
Eudoxusmust be something else then01:43
djm62r3d0xXuS``: that's cool, just chown server1:server1 /home/server101:44
pestilenceEudoxus: so try "dig www.whitehouse.gov"01:44
EudoxusOkay one sec01:44
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r3d0xXuS``ok01:44
r3d0xXuS``then?01:44
Eudoxus;; Query time: 148 msec01:44
djm62r3d0xXuS``: reboot...01:44
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r3d0xXuS``ok01:44
r3d0xXuS``rebooting01:44
r3d0xXuS``:o01:44
r3d0xXuS``ill hope it works nu :x01:45
EudoxusI don't know if that's supposed to be bad. But I can tell you that everything is running smoothly atm01:45
djm62r3d0xXuS``: you should be safe...an interesting start to using linux ;)01:45
anto9usEudoxus: that's not bad01:45
Eudoxuswhat was the number earlier?01:45
r3d0xXuS``:o01:46
r3d0xXuS``sure :D01:46
anto9usEudoxus: 1003 I think01:46
Eudoxusah ok01:46
r3d0xXuS``ok ill check nu01:46
Eudoxusyea.01:46
EudoxusSo. Now I have no idea what to do01:46
Eudoxusbrb, toilet. but you keep giving ideas. I'll brb01:46
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pestilenceEudoxus: that's a decent time.01:46
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FunraiserJester, sucks huh?01:47
r3d0xXuS``yahoo01:47
r3d0xXuS``it works01:47
r3d0xXuS``:D01:47
r3d0xXuS``thanx ppls01:47
JesterFunraiser, yeah that sux indeed01:48
Jestertheyre not talking about it much in #gentoo tho01:48
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djm62doesn't necessarily suck....if MS starts using GNU/linux type stuff, all the patentable stuff is already prior art01:49
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Eudoxusok back01:50
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pestilencemicrosoft can have all the gentoo devs they want, just leave the debian/ubuntu devs alone :)01:50
cyphaselol01:51
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D1does anyone know the name of the graphical rc.d editor (gtk2)?01:51
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D1sorry, didn't register my nick....does anyone know the name of the graphical rc.d editor (gtk2)?01:52
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Razor-XD1: rc.d?01:52
D1runlevels01:52
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Fr0Gshey all01:53
Fr0Gs:)01:53
Razor-XD1: ohhh!01:53
D1its not the console one01:53
D1its an actual gtk2 app01:53
Razor-XI only use teh console, sorry ;)01:53
Razor-X*the01:53
Fr0Gshow can i change a ntfs into a linux drive that ubuntu will read01:53
pestilenceFr0Gs: ubuntu can read ntfs drives01:53
Razor-XFrOGs: I don't think you can do that and save all the data01:53
pestilenceFr0Gs: it just can't write to them.01:53
Razor-Xbut, as pestilence just said, you can read NTFS partitions01:53
Eudoxuspestilence, no ideas?01:54
Funraiserthe founder of the gnome project also applied for a job at windblows but he didn't get it, i think that's the worse that can happen to someone, not being accepted by the ennemy...lol01:54
XenguyFr0Gs: maybe partitionmagic can do it?01:54
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pestilenceEudoxus: it sounds a little more complicated now ...01:54
Fr0Gspestilence how would i format it into it01:54
Fr0Gsi dont like partion magic01:54
Fr0Gsis there anyway to do it01:54
XenguyFunraiser: yeah, and if it hasn't been mentioned already, one of the Gentoo founders just got a job w/ M$01:54
Razor-XFr0Gs: you mean, format as in erase-all-data?01:55
Fr0Gsyes01:55
pestilenceFr0Gs: i don't understand your question.  you have a ntfs partition, and you want to read it in linux, right?01:55
Razor-XXenguy: o_O01:55
FunraiserXenguy, just mentioned01:55
Razor-Xtraitor!01:55
djm62Funraiser: if they're paying guys to work on GPL software, they aren't the enemy01:55
Razor-Xdid you hear what Microsoft is doing?01:55
XenguyFunraiser Razor-X sorry, just popped in01:55
Fr0Gspestilence, i want to format it into a linux drive01:55
Razor-Xthey're upholding censorship in China01:55
Funraiserdjm62, u think microsoft works on GPL stuff?01:55
Razor-Xthose b*stards01:55
anto9usmicrosoft is engaging in damage limitation now, it knows that the flow of opensource is unstoppable, not even software patent law can stop it, unpopular laws, cease to be laws in good democracies01:55
pestilenceFr0Gs: without saving any data, or making it readable from windows, right?01:55
eruinwhat's needed to view windows networks?01:56
djm62Funraiser: I see no reason why they shouldn't01:56
Razor-XFrOGs: you want to wipe all the data and use it for Linux?01:56
Fr0Gspestilence, i want it so windows can not read it but only linux can read it01:56
pestilenceeruin: samba01:56
Fr0Gsyes Razor-X01:56
Razor-Xdjm62: do you _really_ think M$ would support OSS?01:56
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Razor-XFr0Gs: QTparted is your man01:56
pestilenceFr0Gs: then you need to repartition and reformat that partition.01:56
Eudoxusok got to sleep now01:57
pestilenceFr0Gs: try using cfdisk01:57
Eudoxuslater gators01:57
Eudoxusl8er g8ers01:57
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pestilenceFr0Gs: but be careful.01:57
Funraiserdjm62, i see a reason: on the first 5 rules of bill gate's business rules it says: secure the rights of your products01:57
DeFido you _really_ think M$ would support OSS?  -->  If the make money off it01:57
Razor-Xpestilence: you're reccomending cfdisk? ;)01:57
djm62I see no reason why MS won't want to share in the profit from OSS01:57
Fr0Gsis QTparted for linux01:57
Razor-XI would use it, yes, but.... others? ;)01:57
Razor-XFr0Gs: of course01:57
eruinpestilence, I've got it running, I've set up a share from this computer andstill can't see it in gnome's windows networkbrowser :o01:57
pestilenceRazor-X: then suggest something better.  i like cfdisk :)01:57
Razor-XDeFi: well, the nature of _most_ open-source utilities are contrary to the money-making ideal01:57
DeFiOf course01:58
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DeFibut m$ will find a way01:58
Razor-Xpestilence: I use cfdisk meself, but QTParted better for the person not liking Command Line01:58
Funraiseri'm pretty sure microsoft's move toward OSS is just a stab in the back...we will see...01:58
LinuxJonesGuys please take the Microsoft discussion to off-topic01:58
Fr0Gsthanks :)01:58
thenewlaxhow do i register telent with firefox?01:58
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Razor-Xpestilence; by the way, do you mind viewing my draft for a Command-Line guide for the beginner?01:58
anto9usRazor-X: not true, they're contrary to the monopolisation ideal01:58
Fr0Gsoh and if anyones having problems with ati drivers go back to Ubuntu 4.10 its easier01:58
pestilenceRazor-X: got a url?01:58
Razor-Xanto9us: what I meant was, the nature of most licenses are meant to keep freedom01:58
Razor-Xpestilence: yeah, only 1 chapter is made insofar, though01:59
Razor-Xhttp://www.sosdg.org/~razorx/CLI.pdf01:59
Razor-XI have the framework for the rest01:59
anto9usRazor-X: yes, freedom as in speech but not necessarily beer01:59
thenewlaxhow do i register telent with firefox on ubuntu?01:59
Razor-Xanto9us: errrr, freedom don't know where the word came01:59
thenewlaxcan i even?01:59
pfphmm... i'd like to report a bug in gimp-dimage-color (from universe), but i can't find the pkg in bugzilla - what am i missing?02:00
Funraiserwell my  mom (58 years old)  is using linux now so there is hope somewhere02:01
Razor-Xwhat I meant was, most open licenses are weighted towards the free value of a software, comparitive to it's freedom as-in-speech02:01
djm62free as in jackson, not free as in pr0n02:01
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Razor-Xbut, i'm not denying that there are open licenses that also allow you to profit02:01
thenewlaxhow do i register telent proticol with firefox on ubuntu??02:01
Razor-Xthe fact of the matter is, i'm not that much fo an open-source advocate, rather a free-as-in-beer advocate ;)02:01
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anto9usRazor-X: both are good ;)02:02
Razor-X*of02:02
djm62Razor-X: remember, the value of software is largely psychological02:02
Razor-Xdjm62: I know ;)02:02
pestilenceRazor-X: seems it is still in very early stages ;)02:02
Razor-Xpestilence: obviously ;)02:02
pestilenceRazor-X: you might want to check tldp.org for something similar...02:02
Razor-Xpestilence: this is aimed more for the Ubuntu user02:02
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Razor-Xat the moment, it has nothing Ubuntu specific, but it will02:02
djm62Razor-X: MS could release SuSe with a 4-coloured square flag and it would walk off the shelf, as long as they keep the copyright on that one thing02:02
Razor-Xi'll write a section on deb package managers too02:02
eruinare there any ftp servers with graphical config tools?02:02
thenewlaxhow do i register telent proticol with firefox on ubuntu??02:02
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pestilenceseems like a good thing to have around.02:02
Razor-Xpestilence: heh, cool02:03
Razor-Xas you can tell, it's all LaTeX02:03
thenewlaxhow do i register telent proticol with firefox on ubuntu??02:03
Razor-Xdjm62: yeah, I know02:03
Razor-Xthenewlax: as the numerous Firefox users on the channel, which I am not one02:03
pinkome either.02:03
djm62Razor-X: that's powerful, and it's the way nike works, the way motorola works, largely the way apple is now working02:04
Razor-Xbut, my number one rule is this: Commercial software counts as 1 point, Open-Source as 2, Free-as-in-beer 3, Good Functionality 602:04
thenewlaxdoes anyone use frieken firefox?02:04
thenewlaxanyone have any information on how to get telnet with it?02:04
Razor-Xdjm62: that's one of the reasons I don't like Apple02:04
Razor-Xthenewlax: can't you telnet yourself? it's not that thard02:04
LinuxJonesthenewlax, nobody uses telnet they use ssh02:04
Razor-X*hard02:04
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Razor-XLinuxJones: don't confuse the man ;)02:05
thenewlaxif i kewn how WHY WHOULD I ASK02:05
thenewlaxcan someone just help me out02:05
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djm62must sleep... Razor-X, it's never good to be tilting against windmills (or windows)02:05
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pfpthenewlax: you can just type 'telnet ser.ver.com' in a terminal, yes?02:06
tony__Hello, how do I install deb packages?02:06
thenewlaxidn can i?02:06
Razor-Xthenewlax: telnet ipa.ddr.ess02:06
pfptony__: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb02:07
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dedalushi02:07
dedalusi need help02:07
dedaluswith a tvout02:07
Razor-Xdedalus: then you've come to the right place, only, I don't know anything about a TVout ;)02:08
dedalusi only have a tv plugged on the computer with ubuntu02:08
dedalusarf02:08
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dedalusi thought maybe you had a good howto02:08
zyirodedalus what kind of card do you have?02:08
dedalusmx520002:08
dedalusnvidia02:09
zyirouse this link it worked for me its alot to explain on irc02:09
zyirohttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2362802:09
zyiroi have the same card and i have a mx420 it worked for both02:10
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dedalusand you have only the tv plugged on the card ??02:11
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zyirono i have both02:11
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dedalusi think that's the problem02:11
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dedalusbut i'm gonna try this02:11
Funraisernew saying: tell me which distro you are using and I'll tell you who you are02:11
zyiroare wanting to use only the TV?02:11
dedalusthanx02:11
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dedaluszyiro yes02:12
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dedaluscause i want to use the display only for movies02:12
zyiroohokay02:12
dedaluselse i only need it as apache server02:12
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dedalusso no need to display02:12
zyirothat link should work02:12
dedalusok i'm gonna try02:13
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LeeColletonexit02:13
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moparfan90im burning the ubuntu CD now. im going to install it soon. does anyone have some tips or tricks for me02:15
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dicrapiohello02:15
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Xenguymoparfan90: read and read ;-)02:15
moparfan90hi02:15
_cdsI'm trying to install ubuntu on my laptop02:15
hugosHi. I have installed the Ubuntu base system.. now I would like to install X... which packets do I need?02:16
moparfan90whats X02:16
_cdsbut it keeps on looping when installing?02:16
dicrapiois there a db to check if a certain pcmcia card would work in ubuntu or linux in general?02:16
utamaany body have some reading material for VPN?... tried some from google but nothing works02:16
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Xenguymoparfan90: X is linux's graphical/GUI component02:16
moparfan90o. doesn't that install when the os does??02:17
pinkoI didn't think ubuntu let you install without X02:17
moparfan9065% :D02:17
tritiumutama, vpnc is a great vpn client, compatible with Cisco VPNs02:17
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hugospinko, It does!02:17
tritiumhugos, X should have been installed, otherwise your installation went awry02:17
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moparfan90im using SuSe. is ubuntu more or less advanced then suse linux?????????02:18
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utamatritium: VPNC? .... thanks i try to find it... i was using pptpd but its not working correctly02:18
tritiumutama, it's in universe02:18
Burgundaviamoparfan90, there are a lot more applications for ubuntu than for suse02:18
moparfan90ok. good02:18
moparfan90whats your fav. program for ubuntu?02:19
moparfan90everyone02:19
cyphaselol02:19
cyphasethere are to many to choose from02:19
`psych0synaptic02:19
`psych0<302:19
moparfan90well what do you use the most02:19
cyphaseah, synaptic is good02:19
cyphaseand firefox02:19
cyphaseand gaim02:19
cyphaseand02:19
cyphaseand02:19
cyphaseand02:19
moparfan90yea firefox is great02:19
`psych0lol02:19
tritiummoparfan90, that depends on the type of work I'm doing...02:19
pfpxterm ...02:19
moparfan90xterm... use konsole02:20
_cdsanyone know why the install is loopin#g on nic-extra-modules ?02:20
utamax-chat ...lol02:20
moparfan90100%02:20
moparfan90yey02:20
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pinkofavorite program?  no idea.02:20
Razor-Xwoaha!02:20
cyphasewow again02:20
`psych0LOL02:20
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Razor-Xneto supulitu!02:20
moparfan90ok going to install ubuntu now.02:20
Razor-X*supuritu02:20
moparfan90bye02:20
_cdsanyone?02:20
`psych0lool02:20
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kvidellyay they're back! ^.^;02:20
pinkomaybe "top".  I am addicted to watching it.02:20
kvidellWhat's the top process on top? Why, top is of course!02:21
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`psych0razor was that a japanese pronunciation ???02:21
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Razor-X`psych0: yeah, it was02:22
pinkoit's its own little soap opera02:22
`psych0:DDDDDDDDDDD02:22
`psych0japanese or watching anime?02:22
Razor-Xknowing a lot of languages makes certain things seep into your knowledge base02:22
`psych0: >02:22
Razor-X`psych0: the latter XD02:22
`psych0ehehe02:22
Razor-Xbut, I also do French accents, and Spanish ones too02:22
`psych0i know 4 lngs02:22
`psych0me happy02:23
`psych0: >02:23
Razor-Xand really _really_ good Palpatine accents ;002:23
Razor-X*;)02:23
`psych0palpatine?02:23
`psych0starwars?02:23
`psych0LMAO02:23
Razor-Xyeah02:23
Razor-Xespecially the "Rise" part02:23
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moparfan90ok.i need help.02:24
`psych0:)02:24
moparfan90i tried to boot from  cd and it paused then... booted suse02:24
moparfan90whay02:24
moparfan90help me02:24
eruinanyone here know how I can add a specific share via vsftpd? I'm trying to share a directory in my $HOME02:24
tritiummoparfan90, is your bios setup to boot from CD?02:24
moparfan90yea. well temporaroly it is02:24
`psych0ah yes, anyone uses here asus p4p800 mobo?02:25
_cdsanyone know why the install is stopping when installing nic-extra-modules ?02:25
dedaluszyiro that's the test i reboot the computer02:25
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dicrapioare there any databases to check if a certain pcmcia (firewire, usb2 combo) card would work on ubuntu or linux in general?02:25
moparfan90what do i do???02:25
Matthew_WHey guys02:25
Matthew_WHow do I get WiFi working on this beast? (ubuntu lol)02:26
Burgundaviadicrapio, the great db of google usually will tell you02:26
_cdsI do't even *ave* A NIC02:26
_cdsanyone?02:26
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moparfan90help me02:26
moparfan90what do i do02:26
`psych0_cds do u maybe have sata?02:26
HrdwrBoB_cds: could be a problem with the CD02:26
_cdsno sata02:26
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_cdsfreshly burnt CD02:26
anto9usdicrapio: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupport02:27
tritiummoparfan90, sounds like you may not have burned the CD correctly, if you're sure you setup the bios to boot from cd02:27
Matthew_WAnyone about the wireless>02:27
moparfan90yea i just told it to boot cd02:27
moparfan90you think the burn was bad02:27
tritiumcould be02:27
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_cdsanyone?02:28
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_cdsCan I skip it?02:28
tritium_cds, try it02:28
_cdsHow/02:28
_cdsI did a server install and it tried installing it02:28
tritium_cds, can you exit to the main installer menu?02:29
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_cdshang on..02:29
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`psych0rofl02:29
_cdsright, i'm now in the main installer02:29
moparfan90is the size of the iso around 586.8mb for a install cd02:29
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dicrapioi ll try that anto9us02:29
Matthew_W...  Anything?  I have no idea how to install a wireless network to my ubuntu distro02:29
_cdstritium?02:30
tritiumMatthew_W, what are you trying to setup?  wireless card for your laptop running ubuntu, or what?02:30
tritium_cds, yes?02:30
_cdsI'm in the main menu02:30
HrdwrBoBMatthew_W: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WiFiHowto02:30
tritium_cds, great.  Try to skip that step, as you suggested02:31
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_cdshow?02:31
anto9usdicrapio: actually, I pasted that prematurely, nothing obvious about firewire/usb2 combo that I could see02:31
tritium_cds, go to another setp02:31
tritiumstep02:31
_cdshow?02:31
tritium_cds, are you at a menu or not?02:31
_cdsthe front menu, yes02:32
dicrapiooh02:32
tritiumcan you navigate it?02:32
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_cdsit's the front "Press enter to boot" one02:32
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wizard_31help02:33
wizard_31anyone having problems with apt-get?02:33
seth_kwhat's your issue?02:33
tritium_cds, yes, but when it gets to the stage where it loops, are you able to exit the loop, and select a different installation step?02:33
seth_kwizard_31, md5 mismatches?02:33
tritiumwizard_31, see the topic...02:33
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_cdsah -no02:33
compotatojAnyone here have a mx510 mouse? Ubuntu doesn't like mapping it correctly..02:33
_cdsIt loops half way through installing something02:33
seth_ktritium, I don't believe the md5 thing is in /topic any more.02:34
seth_ktritium, unless i'm missing it02:34
wizard_31using hoary02:34
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ardob11what's another good linux torrent client other than Azureus or Qtorrent?02:34
tritiumseth_k, you're right ;)02:34
Razor-Xardob11: BitTornado02:34
seth_kwizard_31, what error do you get?02:34
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ardob11thanx02:34
wizard_31dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 29584 package `gnome-applets':02:35
wizard_31`Depends' field, invalid package name `l)bice6': character `)' not allowed - only letters, digits and -+._ allowed02:35
firefly2442are there ubuntu boot floppies somewhere?02:35
wizard_31E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)02:35
wizard_31no matter what i try to do02:35
tritiumwizard_31, are you using the us.archive.ubuntu.com repos?02:36
seth_kthat doesn't sound like an md5 error02:36
seth_kwizard_31, sudo apt-get clean and then try again02:36
moparfan90i burned the cs.(ubuntu install) and booted it. then my computer said searching for bootable cd and then just booted my other linux on my HD. what do i d????????02:37
seth_kmoparfan90, did you burn the ISO as a file, maybe?02:37
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seth_kinstead of burning it as an image?02:37
vinuxhello all02:37
moparfan90yea why02:37
tritiummoparfan90, because you need to make a bootable CD02:37
wizard_31same thing02:37
moparfan90how?02:37
vinuxso I hear Breezy is alittle unstable02:37
tritiumvinux, yes, please don't use it yet02:37
vinuxtritium, why? is it that bad?02:38
tritiumwizard_31, please see my last question02:38
tritiumvinux, see the topic...02:38
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wizard_31how can i tell?02:38
tritiumwizard_31, you can inspect your /etc/apt/sources.list, or you can watch the output of "sudo apt-get update"02:39
vinuxtritium, so is breezy going to be awsome when it comes out? Do you know of any big differences about it?02:39
tritiumvinux, of course it is ;)02:39
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Rotundvinux: gnome 2.1202:40
`psych0what kernel will breezy have by default?02:40
seth_k2.6.12 i believe02:40
vinuxRotund, yea gnome is sweet02:40
seth_kvinux, if you're new to Ubuntu or Linux you really shouldn't use breezy, however if you don't mind fixing things on your own, it's pretty fun. I'm running it on two boxes02:40
`psych0sweet02:40
wizard_31ah yes...us is there02:40
wizard_31should i # them?02:40
_cdsok, I think my problems are down to not enough memory02:41
tritiumwizard_31, we've had problems with them, but not really the same ones you're having, as seth_k pointed out02:41
_cdsanyone know how to set up swap memory?02:41
vinuxseth_k, so basically it needs a major tune up atleast for newbies02:41
seth_kvinux, indeed02:41
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tritium_cds, swap space is setup during the partioning phase of installation.02:41
seth_kvinux, i've broken X on my breezy box about 4 times and had to surf around in links looking for a fix :D02:41
manitoba98xpI have a computer which is isolated from the Internet (I'm trying to get WiFi working)02:42
manitoba98xpI need to install packages on it.02:42
vinuxseth_k, wow sounds like it's in alpha stage02:42
moparfan90how do i burn a bootable cd???02:42
moparfan90PM me on how to02:42
manitoba98xpCan I download the .debs, transfer them to the computer, and install them?02:42
manitoba98xpIf so, how?02:42
manitoba98xp(Do I install them)02:42
_cdstritium: i'm not getting that far02:42
tritiumvinux, there have been some major changes, include a C++ ABI change02:42
firefly2442dpkg -i02:42
anto9usmoparfan90: what cd writer software do you have?02:42
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tritiummoparfan90, which client are you using?02:42
_cdstritium: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1022.html   - thats my problem02:42
_cdsbut when doing mkswap02:43
vinuxtritium, oh ok hmmmm what's ABI? lol02:43
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moparfan90K3B02:43
_cdsit comes up no such file/dir02:43
firefly2442manitoba98xp: dpkg -i theinstaller.deb (I think this should work) :)02:43
Stephen__A hello -- how can I get ubuntu to detect my wireless internet card - atheros ... I want to set up wlan0 but.. it's not there because the device is listed as unknown atheros in lspci02:43
seth_k_cds, tritium, the C++ transition is complete02:43
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anto9usmoparfan90: burn image then point at the .iso file02:43
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seth_k_cds, tritium, for everything important.02:44
tritiumseth_k, yes02:44
moparfan90how??02:44
manitoba98xpfilefly2442: does dpkg handle dependencies, or do I have to install the dependencies first?02:44
_cdsseth_k: huh?02:44
moparfan90PM me there to many people talking02:44
firefly2442hmm not sure, anyone know?02:44
anto9us02:44
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moparfan90how do i burn a bootable iso image help me02:45
anto9usmoparfan90: in k3b select tools menu | CD | Burn CD Image and then select your file in the dialog02:45
vinuxseth_k, C++ that's a programing language right? Are they redoing some stuff in C++02:45
wizard_31hate to say it but just did pclinuxos on other unit....working really slick02:45
moparfan90ok02:45
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tritiummoparfan90, we're trying to help you.  Please be patient.02:46
moparfan90ok. sorry02:46
moparfan90is that all then just burn it02:46
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pfpmanitoba98xp, firefly2442 dpkg doesn't fetch dependencies automatically, apt does02:46
anto9usmoparfan90: yes, that will check the iso file and then burn it02:46
tritiumvinux, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BreezyToolchainTransition02:46
moparfan90ok. thanks every one02:47
vinuxtritium, cool thanks02:47
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manitoba98xppfp: I know it doesn't fetch them; will it warn me if they aren't met?02:48
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pfpmanitoba98xp: yep02:48
tritiummanitoba98xp, packages won't install if their dependencies aren't met, unless you force02:48
manitoba98xpthx02:48
_cdshow do I exit the console in install?02:48
manitoba98xp(I'm updating madwifi for my new card)02:49
_cds(the alt+f2 one)02:49
_cds'exit' just brings up the console again02:49
tritium_cds, Alt-F102:49
pfp_cds: alt-f102:49
_cdsah, ta02:49
_cdshr02:49
_cdsm02:49
dedalusso boring this tvout02:49
_cdshttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1022.html02:49
_cdsthat fix didn't wor02:49
_cdsk02:49
_cdsanyone any ideas?02:49
firefly2442http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/  can someone explain what these files are?02:50
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moparfan90tritium: how do you learn all this stuff. my gos you have anwsers to everyones questions... well thanks its burning now..... 20%02:50
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firefly2442I know what a netboot is but which do I need?02:50
kevogodMy company that I work for is starting to test on Linux. What flavors of Linux would be a good mix for testing?02:50
_cdsah, nm02:50
tritiummoparfan90, just been using linux for 12 or so years02:50
seth_khe's a motu, he better be smart :D02:50
moparfan90wow!!02:51
tritium:)02:51
_cdskevogod: ubundu, redhat/fedora, debian02:51
tritiumone sec...02:51
moparfan90i thought linux was a new thing02:51
seth_kooh tritium, you're feeling like a bad motu right now? :P wanna sponsor an upload for me?02:51
seth_kand improve your motu-fu?02:51
seth_k:P02:51
Pop_pa_FrEaKkevogod, what does the company plan to use the distro for ?02:51
moparfan9037% :D:D:D02:51
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kevogodPop_pa_FrEaK: Testing their client-side web based program.02:52
tritiumI'm back...02:52
Pop_pa_FrEaKtell them to use ubuntu then :)02:52
paolobHi guys! I've just upgraded from warty to hoary, and every time I log in from gdm a window appears telling me of an error in libxklavier library, or an error inthe X server, or an X implementation incompatible with xkbfile. It's described in the mail http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2005-April/028572.html too. Any hint? any idea? thank you!02:52
tritiumseth_k, heh, maybe come August.  I'm rather busy until then ;)02:52
seth_khehe, no problems ;)02:53
kevogodPop_pa_FrEaK: It's a matter of testing multiple distributions, not just one. Right now I have Fedora Core 4 and Ubuntu 5.04 up.02:53
occyMost powerful NO-OS (wanna stick Ubuntu on it)  I can buy for $500(total)02:54
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anto9uskevogod: I've just switched my client-side web based program users to ubuntu from mandrake 10, they all prefer ubuntu, 100%02:54
_cdser...02:54
moparfan90i would say the major distros are ubuntu, debian, foedora core 3 and 4, and redhat02:54
_cdswy am I getting segmentation falt?02:55
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kevogodWhat about Novell/SUSE?02:55
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bartekpmoparfan90: in Poland major distro is Aurox02:55
anto9uskevogod: the price tag02:56
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vinuxkevogod, if you like spending money Suse is ok but I hear thier support is not that great02:56
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kevogodI am not looking for home use. I could care less about price as it is testing for other possible systems.02:57
kevogodWe currently test on Mac OS 8.6+, Windows 98+, and now soon to be Linux.02:57
Burgundaviakevogod, either Ubuntu or Suse is fine for home use02:58
anto9uskevogod: for your purpose all you need is something that will run firefox right?02:58
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anto9uskevogod: although ubuntu will do much more :)02:58
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kevogodWell, it all depends on where each distribution is at. Since most do not add new feature suntil the next release.02:59
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caonexYou are attempting to install an initrd kernel image (version 2.6.10-5-386)02:59
caonexThis will not work unless you have configured your boot loader to use02:59
caonexinitrd. (An initrd image is a kernel image that expects to use an INITial02:59
caonexRam Disk to mount a minimal root file system into RAM and use that for02:59
caonexbooting).02:59
caonex What this means by configure it, is to just include a line in the menu.lst pointing at the initrd image in /boot?02:59
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kevogodSo FireFox 1.03 with 1.04 security updates may differ from FireFox 1.04.02:59
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vinuxkevogod, look you got like 3 choices. ubuntu , ubuntu and then finally ubuntu. Look into my eyes and say "ubuntu is the only one" :P03:00
makavelii need some help everytime i go to run synaptic i get the following error message " failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic: Child terminated with 1 status"03:00
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anto9uskevogod: although firefox in ubuntu is at 1.0.2 with security patches it can be tweaked to show as 1.04 if the server needs it03:00
kevogodvinux: Fanboyd :P03:00
kevogodheh03:00
tritiumgood night all03:00
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firefly2442why hasn't ubuntu updated firefox yet?03:01
anto9usgood night tritium03:01
vinuxnite tritium03:01
kevogodanto9us: That still does not address that the browser could give different results.03:01
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kvidellfirefly2442: They've implemented all of the patches from the latest versions for bug fixes in to 1.0.203:01
seth_kfirefly2442: check backports, it's in there03:01
kevogodfirefly2442: Most Linux distributions only port security updates to latest programs.03:01
kevogodAt release, they are updated fully.03:01
anto9uskevogod: it works ok for me I run a zope based web applicaton server, mozilla and firefox only, no version problems yet03:02
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firefly2442is there a reason they patched it but left the version the same though? it seems odd....03:02
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cthulfuegofirefly2442: Most releave versions of softwre backport patches, they don't implement wholly new versions, for stability reasons.03:02
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kevogodfirefly2442: That is because the other changes to FireFox 1.04 have not been added to Ubuntu's version.03:02
cthulfuegos/releave/release/03:02
firefly2442you learn something new everyday :) thanks03:03
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kevogodfirefly2442: If you go to the FireFox extensions page with Ubuntu, you will see how to change your vendorSub to 1.04.03:03
kevogodThis will allow you to download 1.04 extensions.03:04
fonzif i don't compile something from scratch, i feel like a communist03:04
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kevogodIf I don't compile something from scratch, I feel rich.03:04
fonza rich communist, maybe03:04
anto9usfonz: don't knock communism till you've tried it :)03:05
vinuxfonz, LOL03:05
fonzanto9us, have you?03:05
cthulfuegohow would you know what a communist feels like?03:05
kevogodCommunism has never been tried. It has only been pretended.03:05
fonzi don't know, except that i'd feel like warren beatty03:05
occyAMD Athlon 64 3000+ is that faster or slower than a PIV 2.4 G ?03:05
occysorry for stupid question.03:05
seth_kfaster03:05
seth_kby a lot03:05
occyreally?03:05
cthulfuegooccy: Should be quite a bit faster.03:05
vinuxkevogod, tell that to windows XP03:05
occyahh sweet03:06
occyheh03:06
cthulfuegocommunism is like living off your parents, but for grown-ups ;-)03:06
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anto9usfonz: no, I've lent my bicycle to my mates though03:06
kevogodPerformance wise, the Athlon 64 3000+ is better.03:06
fonzwhen will ubuntu be ready to install on the new apple intel machines?03:06
occyDDR 400 PC 3200 Good ram?03:06
zythokay, I actually have *everything* working in Linux for once.03:06
fonz(trick question)03:06
zythamazing.03:06
cthulfuegooccy: Kingston03:06
occyMan, I've been out of the market so long.03:06
occyheh03:06
kevogodoccy: Get Corsair ValueSelect 1GB Kit03:06
occyI'm on a low budget.03:06
vinuxzyth, yea it's a good feeling03:07
_doneillwow.03:07
_doneilli just read about dvorak03:07
cthulfuegooccy: Even so, shit ram will make the box not work.03:07
kevogodoccy: Corsair ValueSelect is a damn good deal.03:07
_doneilland compared with some qwerty :D03:07
_doneillor 'scholes' i think it's called03:07
_doneillsholes?  yeah, sholes.03:07
zythoccy, it really doesn't matter that much, I have 1GB PC2100, works fine.  Unless you're a psycho hardcore gamer or something ;)03:07
occyahh ok, I'll see if these peeps offer it.03:07
kevogodI tried Dvorak for a month, it was easy to learn but not practical since every keyboard is qwerty,.03:07
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_doneillkevogod: daskeyboard.com03:07
_doneillno keyboard is anything03:07
_doneillthese aren't typewriters using ink and etched heads, they're computer peripherals, all reprogrammable03:08
cthulfuegooccy: A single 512Mb stick is fine for a typical desktop box that runs mail/browser/office/gimp. You can always buy another stick when you have the money.03:08
kevogodPftt, tell that to every keyboard ever made in any office, school, or anywhere.03:08
occyDDR 333 Kingston PC-270003:08
fidgethello could anyone recommend a good book for debian/linux server security03:08
occysound OK?03:08
_doneillkevogod: look, dvorak is ANSI recognized, and in every major OS distro by default.03:08
cthulfuegooccy: 400if you can (PC3200)03:08
_doneillkevogod: any serious typist doesn't look at the keyboard anyway.03:08
occyhmm k03:09
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cthulfuegooccy: There should hardly be any price difference03:09
occyGot it...03:09
kevogod_doneill: Yes, but that does not further Dvorak's cause by not having much hardware support.03:09
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occyIt's just under $50003:09
occy:)03:09
occyhehe03:09
occycthulfuego, thanks03:09
cthulfuegooccy: for 1 GB?03:09
occynaw03:09
zyththat's expensive03:09
occyfor the box total03:09
kevogodHardware support as in Keys layed out already.03:09
cthulfuegooccy: Ah, ok :-)03:09
_doneillkevogod: ...hardware support, heh03:09
cthulfuegooccy: That about what i paid for my 2800+ 8 months ago.03:10
concept10What is the fastest way to connect to another computer using remote desktop if I know the IP address?03:10
kevogodhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682014544003:10
kevogodThat's my RAM.03:10
_doneillAMD 3000 :D03:10
dedaluswhat's this mess ubuntu want to install apache2 with some elements of apache03:10
dedalusis it normal03:10
dedalus??03:10
bartekpconcept10: X over ssh with copression?03:11
anto9usconcept10: Applications | Internet | Terminal Server Client03:11
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anto9usconcept10: and I typed that as quickly as I could03:11
zythconcept10, RDP, if they have it enabled03:12
yonileverybody having trouble with marillat sources or is it just me ?03:12
occyhttp://occy.net/tmp/computer-ss.png03:12
occycthulfuego, check that out.03:12
zythyonil, I don't think you need marillat with hoary anymore (at least I didn't for anything)03:12
concept10is RDP different than VNC03:12
dedalusconcept10 i advice you vncserver03:13
yonilzyth, i cant find packages which i tought should exist (anjunta for example)03:13
anto9usconcept10: yes, RDP is the Microsoft protocol03:13
zythconcept10, RDP = Windows-ish.  Sorry, I generally remote to windows boxes.  I assumed03:13
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cthulfuegoyonil: Isn't it 'anjuta' ?03:13
concept10Im trying to remote to a fresh install of ubuntu, I usually use krdc03:13
occycthulfuego, decent deal?03:13
zythI see anjuta in my synaptic03:14
cthulfuegooccy: Does that HD have 8MB cache?03:14
yonilcthulfuego, lol :*) well guess it is there :-)03:14
kvidellare you looking for an RDP client?03:14
occycthulfuego, hmmm, don't know.03:14
cthulfuegoyonil: Not typo3ing helps a lot ;-)03:14
occyThe hitachi for 5bucks more does03:15
anto9usconcept10: System | Preferences | Remote Desktop on the machine you want to log in to03:15
concept10Im just not familiar with terminal server client do know what to put in there to access the machine remotely03:15
concept10anto9us, I have that setup already. I need to know what to do from my side03:15
cthulfuegooccy: Got video yet?03:16
zython ubuntu?03:16
occy0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 MX 440]  (rev a3)03:16
cthulfuegoCool.03:16
occyheh03:16
anto9usconcept10: it tells you command in that dialog box03:16
occykevogod, was just asking about that. ;)03:16
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occyhehe03:16
zythMX44003:16
zythyou poor man03:16
zyth:(03:16
fonzwhy doesn't someone make the blackjack game installed on ubuntu into a mmorpg03:16
occyzyiro, heh03:17
fonzWHY WHY WHY03:17
paolobHi guys! I have a problem with the keyboard in X, giving me an error related to various xkb stuff. What packages should I reinstall in order to try to solve it? thank you!03:17
occyzyiro, Do you know of problems with these cards?03:17
Razor-Xhmmm.... should I put the word recursive in \verb if I'm showing that that's what -R means?03:17
zythoccy, oh, no, they're fine03:17
zythjust older/slower03:17
occyzyiro, Cause... I've been having lockups to hell and back. :(03:17
zythreally?03:17
ardob11what's a good BT client with integrated download/upload list, qtorrent and azureus don't work and I want to share a lot of files03:17
occyI can't seem to narrow it down to anything.03:17
zythdoes yours have a cooling fan?03:17
occyI've tried for over a year now.03:17
occyyeah03:17
zythhm.03:17
occyWindows will run on this damned box for 6 months without locking up.03:17
zythyou can get an FX5700 for cheap, maybe just upgrade it03:18
anto9usRazor-X: in \verb?03:18
occyBut put Linux on it... and use Gimp and it locks up harder than.... I don't know what.03:18
occy:(03:18
zythI have an old Ti 4200 on mine, it's all happy03:18
ardob11Razor X?03:18
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occyDon't know if it's Ram, hard drive, or what.03:18
vinuxhey guys I have a question about extra repositories are these on this page safe? http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories03:18
Razor-Xanto9us: yeah03:18
zythoccy, have you checked the AGP driver in your X config?03:18
occyIt's costing me time doing web work when My machine locksup.03:18
zythoccy, could be an AGP issue03:18
anto9usRazor-X: please explain03:19
occyzyth, yeah, I've been all through it with crimson and several others here.03:19
cthulfuegooccy: They list an 8MB cache WD model too.03:19
zythahh03:19
occycthulfuego, was trying to keep it under $50003:19
occythat's really all the money I have.03:19
zyth*nods*03:19
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cthulfuegooccy: Drop 512Mb ram and get the faster drive.03:19
zythif it's a motherboard issue (AGP), the issue may clear up03:19
Razor-Xanto9us: it's a LaTeX thing03:19
occyI do a lot of GFX.03:19
zythMX440's are usually pretty solid03:19
occyreally need the ram.03:19
zythyou're changing your mobo right occy ?03:20
cthulfuegooccy: The faster drive will give you a batter performance gain. Really.03:20
anto9usRazor-X: aah, sorry, not used it03:20
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cthulfuegooccy: I do gfx too and only have 512Mb ram at the moment. 120+ MB images aren't an issue.03:20
Razor-Xanto9us: well, \verb makes the text surrounded in | | look plain03:20
occyhmm03:20
Razor-Xwhile everything else looks nice03:20
occyinteresting03:20
Razor-Xmost people use \verb to differentiate code from normal text03:20
cthulfuegooccy: And again, it's easier to add ram than to migrate to a new hd.03:20
Razor-Xso, i was wondering if that would look good, aesthetically, when explaining thet \verb|-R| is recursive or \verb|recursive|03:21
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occyup to $514 now.03:21
occyheh03:21
occynot that bad... if it's a decent deal03:21
zythoccy, but anyways, if you're changing to a new motherboard, just see if your current card works properly.03:21
occyNow... would I run the 64bit version of Ubuntu on that?03:21
cthulfuegoYou can probably shave money off by using a different case.03:22
occyzyth, oh..03:22
occyzyth, you don't think the card will work?03:22
kevogodoccy: You could.03:22
cthulfuegooccy: Are you planning to do any video stuff?03:22
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occykevogod, you configurate yet?03:22
zythoccy, unless the card is failing (and if it is, XP ought to have issues too), it's probably a conflict with your motherboard's AGP.  So the card ought to work fine on your new set up03:22
vinuxhey who is running 64bit ubuntu?03:22
occycthulfuego, nah, no video03:22
kevogodI'm downloading Fedora Core 4 right now, so my internet is going sorta slow.03:22
cthulfuegooccy: Then go 64bit03:22
kevogodhold on03:23
anto9usRazor-X: I would say aesthetics is not nearly as important as your formatting conventions and consistancy, if it isn't code therefore, I would say no to your question03:23
occycthulfuego, is there 64bit Ubuntu Hoary out?03:23
maswanoccy: sure, it was released with warty even03:23
occyand how much further behind 32bit is the 64bit version in release schedule?03:23
occyahhh03:23
occymaswan, right on.03:23
cthulfuegooccy: That's what I run :-)03:23
occyI know PPC ports tend to be slow behind other things.03:23
occyMan, you guys have been super helpful.03:24
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occyHoping kevogod can come up with a better buy ;)03:24
zyththat's probably because of less PPC users.  Poor PPC.03:24
Speedy2Can someone send me the binary for "lspci" ? I am trying to debug an issue with the Ubuntu install CD and the console during the install does not have lspci03:24
maswanoccy: well, ubuntu has i386, ppc, and amd64 as release arches03:24
kvidellmaswan: will it run on a VAX?03:24
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occyhey...03:25
toresbekvidell: unfortunately :(03:25
toresbe...not03:25
zyth  VisionMan VT3200 Socket 754 Barebone Kit / AMD Athlon 64 3200+ / 1.0GB DDR400 / X-Blade Gamer Tower with Clear-Side / 450 Watt / LCD FAN Control Module / 1.44FDD / 56K / NO OS - $780 CDN03:25
maswankvidell: no, unless you find an i386, ppc or amd64 vax03:25
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kvidelldrat03:25
occythink this onboard video is better than what I have now?03:25
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zythoh no HD either.03:25
zytheh03:25
occynForce3 25003:25
toresbekvidell: netbsd will, though03:25
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occywhatever the heck that is.03:25
kvidelltoresbe: hehe.. OpenVMS :-D03:25
kevogodChipset03:25
kvidellphear. phear the vms03:25
toresbekvidell: ew :P03:25
kvidellhp says so!03:26
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kvidelllol03:26
anto9uskvidell: have you seen http://linux-vax.sourceforge.net/ ?03:26
occywhat I know of the nForce 3 is in that screnshot: http://occy.net/tmp/computer-ss.png03:26
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toresbeanto9us: of course :)03:26
zythlinux on a vax.  oi.03:26
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Speedy2Would someone w/Ubuntu 5.04 on x86 send me their 'lspci' executable?03:27
kevogodI configured the exact computer using Newegg.com and their price for the case and it came to $422.43.03:27
kvidelllol03:27
kvidellhm03:27
maswanoccy: nForce is a chipset, not a graphics thingie03:27
occymaswan, ahhh03:27
kevogodSo about $80 markup... which is not bad03:27
kevogod(possibly more)03:27
zyththese openbsd songs are majorly amusing.03:28
kvidellSpeedy2: how would you like me to get it to ya?03:28
Speedy2kvidell: DCC?03:28
occysongs?  Ooh... I haven't pimped my band in a while:03:28
occyhttp://theinterference.com/03:28
occyDownload tunes and enjoy.03:28
kvidellhm03:28
occytriple your money back if not 100% satisfied.03:28
occy;)03:28
zythbetter be in .ogg ;)03:28
kvidellnever dcc'd with bitchx before ,lol03:28
occyzyth, Look under ogg/mp303:28
occyheh03:28
zythkvidell, /dcc send file nick iirc.03:28
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occyor under files I think.03:29
kevogodoccy: The hard drive on the one you're looking at is only Ultra ATA10003:29
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kevogodand your motherboard does not support SATA03:29
zythwhoa it crashed mplayer mozilla plugin03:29
zythwhee03:29
occyhttp://theinterference.com/music/ogg/shadow_sessions1/ti-sooner_or_later.ogg03:29
maswankevogod: the motherboard says it supports SATA03:29
Razor-Xmmm, LaTeX makes everything look so sexy03:29
occykevogod, oh...03:29
occy:(03:29
abarbacciaRazor-X, its so much fun too03:30
occykevogod, see... I haven't a clue as to what I'm doing.03:30
Speedy2kvidell: Thank you very much! :)03:30
kvidellindeed03:30
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kevogodYou could go to http://www.ubuntupc.com/03:30
kevogodheh03:30
occyyeah?03:30
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occyoh03:30
occy:P03:30
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kevogodI have never used the Lini PC but it looks interesting.. heh03:31
occyThey are a bit over priced03:31
occywell03:31
occyout of my pricing range03:31
Razor-Xabarbaccia: yeah, definitely03:31
occy$599 for their lini03:31
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gp_aaronWhat is a gui cd-burning app for gnome that can handle bin/cue03:31
occyand it seems underpowered03:31
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Razor-XI don't even know _why_ I used WYSIWYG henceforth03:31
zythoccy, whatever you do, get a cheap SB Live soundcard if you like multichannel sound.03:31
ubuntuRight now I am in the Live CD enviornment, but I still can't resize my partition, any advice?03:31
zythif your audio chipset isn't friendly03:31
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occyI've got a PCI card03:31
kevogodAC'97 8 Channel is the only way to go!03:31
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BurgundaviaUnlike Ubuntu or Kubuntu (other popular Debian derivatives), Groovix software maintains 100% compatibility with Debian sources.03:32
Burgundaviaumm, that is FUD03:32
Razor-X*previous to this03:32
kevogodheh03:32
occykevogod, :/03:32
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occyoccy@occy.net if you guys find any good deals.03:32
KodeKhey, anyone with an audigy2 here?03:32
sproingieBurgundavia: so why wouldn't i just use debian?03:32
occyI gotta go check on the girls.03:32
thechitowncubsAnyone got any ideas?03:32
occythey are crying for some reason03:32
occybbl03:32
occytx for all the help03:32
occythanks guys03:32
zyth$599.. US?03:32
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zythI could build that for way cheaper, CDN even.03:32
_nate__sup noobs? :)03:32
Burgundaviasproingie, Ubuntu is source compatible, not neccesarily binary compitable (though it usually is)03:32
zythgroovix looks like a ripoff.03:32
KodeKim trying to route my bass to the subwoofer, instead of the satellites. ive read about that somewhere, but i do not know how to do it. Anyone?03:32
Miksmmm in order to change the language of the man pages...i must change the variable "LC_MESSAGES" in the "/etc/environment/"  to the desired language like "es_MX"....is that right?03:33
kevogodIt's not hard to build a computer for cheaper.03:33
kevogodThey do have to make a profit.03:33
nnutterI would appreciate it if someone could help me setup my wireless nic.  The Network settings panel sees the wiresless card and I told it what network to connect to03:33
zythkevogod, yeah, I suppose, lol03:33
sproingieBurgundavia: again, i have to wonder why that's a feature.  it means being stuck with ossified versions of KDE and so forth03:33
Burgundaviasproingie, say again?03:34
nnutteroops, but it is not getting an ip address03:34
bigbill52ai love building computers..especially amd-6403:34
sproingieBurgundavia: ok why don't you tell me what binary compatibility means03:34
thechitowncubsPlease someone take the time and help :)03:34
zythhaven't made an amd-64 yet, but I have an A8N SLI Deluxe MB in my living room crying to be put in something03:34
thechitowncubsit would be greatly appreciated03:34
gp_aaronno one knows?03:34
Burgundaviasproingie, binary compatibility means that you can install a deb from anywhere on Ubuntu03:34
kevogodI want to see how the Cell processor will play in the PC world.03:34
bigbill52abuilt 4 for customers..has 6 month warranty but no one calls for warranty service03:35
zythkevogod, from what I've read (admitedly, on slashdot, soo...) not so well, since it lacks certain normal 'cpu' functions03:35
thechitowncubsgp_aaron: restate your question03:35
sproingieBurgundavia: i can already do that03:35
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gp_aaronWhat is a gui cd-burning app for gnome that can handle bin/cue03:35
KodeKcan anyone help me with my sound drivers? :/03:35
Burgundaviasproingie, most will work, but some will not03:35
zythKodeK, what's the problem?03:35
bigbill52asmooth as silk with an msi or soltek motherboard...built my first sli one....very nice03:35
thechitowncubsGraveman I believe03:35
gp_aaronwell it doesn't need to be gnome just not k3b03:35
cthulfuegogp_aaron: 'xterm -e cdrdao write foo.cue'03:35
kevogodzyth: Well, from what Sony has said, the PS3 will run Linux so that may be FUD.03:35
KodeKzyth, bass is coming out of my satellites03:35
zythnnutter, are you using WEP/WAP?03:35
zythkevogod, yeah, true.03:36
gp_aaroncthulfuego, ok thats number one03:36
KodeKzyth, it screws up my sound.03:36
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nnutterzyth, no it is open03:36
cthulfuegogp_aaron: Right click the .cue, see if it can burn.03:36
sproingieBurgundavia: right, like those with library version skew.  this usually isn't a big priority with binary distros03:36
vinuxkevogod, well xbox360 run linux?03:36
zythKodeK, oh, I don't use more than 2 speakers, have you tried alsamixer?  Beyond that, I have no idea, corry.03:36
zyth*sorry03:36
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KodeKzyth, yes, i have :/ it's ok, though :D03:36
gp_aarondo you know of a program that will let me burn a .avi to a vcd03:36
nnutterzyth, oh wait, maybe it isn't03:36
kevogodvinux: It will when the Mod makers get ahold of it.03:36
cthulfuegogp_aaron: 'transcode'03:36
zythnnutter, that'd be a problem :)03:36
sproingieBurgundavia: anyone really paranoid about binary version skew either runs debian stable or gentoo.  two approaches to the same end03:36
bigbill52afigured a way to install xp to sata drive and debian to ide drive...and the booting for each is independent03:36
vinuxkevogod, hehehe03:37
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kvidelloo03:37
kvidellvmware5 is good times03:37
nnutterzyth, sorry it is my apartment's wireless and that just added a username and password for it, but I don't know how they are doing it03:37
cthulfuegogood times is a virus03:37
kvideller..03:37
kvidellvmware5 is good eats?03:37
gp_aaroncthulfuego, transcode to mpeg?03:37
Razor-Xvmware 5 hasn't come out yet, has it?03:37
zythnnutter, that's your issue then.  You'll need to talk to whomever is running the router and get the key03:37
zythAnyone know if Gnomebaker is worth using yet?03:37
cthulfuegogp_aaron: Yes, mpegh with correct bitrate options for VCD. See the docs.03:37
Razor-Xkvidell: can I get the recipe, or is it on the site?03:37
gp_aaronok03:37
gp_aaronthank you03:38
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kvidellI don't have a copy of it, I'm forwarding it off a test dev box at work03:38
Razor-Xgp_aaron: mpegh, what does it do?03:38
Razor-Xerrr03:38
Razor-Xcthulfuego03:38
Mikshow can i list the users that are currently logged in?03:38
zythMiks, who03:38
Miksthanks03:38
kvidelland for your current tty only, "who mom likes" ^.^;03:39
zythI need to get rid of this Nomad Zen Xtra for a portable that does ogg.  I seem to have become oddly psycho about audio formats.03:39
Mikshaha03:39
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calamarihi03:39
kevogodGet a Rio Karma.03:39
Mikswhat does tty1  and pts/0  mean?03:40
zythkevogod, what's the storage like?03:40
kevogodI believe 40 GB03:40
thechitowncubsis it possible to resize an ext3 partition?03:40
Razor-XMiks: terminal names03:40
kevogodbut you'll have to look that up03:40
Razor-Xthechitowncubs: yes03:40
zyththat's not bad03:40
Mikscanuse it seems like i have 2 users of myself03:40
kevogod20GB03:40
syndwhy not an ipod and apple lossless?03:40
Mikslogged in03:40
calamariis there a way to change the title of a gnome-terminal window?03:40
Miksone with tty1 and other with pts/003:40
nnutterzyth, I am pretty sure it is open, and it is supposed to assign an IP address so that I can login via the web browser03:40
zythwonder how much I can get on ebay for this zen xtra03:40
thechitowncubsOk, anyone want to give me a brief step by step on how to do it?03:40
kevogodsynd: Because the formats are not open?03:40
zythsynd, proprietary is evil? :)03:40
kvidellMiks: are you running X?03:41
syndkevogod: understandable\03:41
kevogodsynd: Why not FLAC?03:41
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zythnnutter, hmm, odd03:41
pfpcalamari: echo -ne "\033] 0;New text for title\007"03:41
Miksohh...so thats why...if im running X then i have anothe ruser logged in03:41
PaulyWho all here has gotten Qemu to work to emulate windows?03:41
kvidellyea, and everytime you open an XTerm or a gnome-terminal you'll get another one03:41
syndkevogod: just a suggestion ; )03:41
Miksi like this system because everyday i learn something new :P03:41
kevogodApple is more evil than Microsoft.03:42
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calamariahh, sorry.. I found it, I think.. --title :)03:42
syndha!03:42
_kazomg. What is up with ubuntu & "debootstrap error"03:42
bartekpkevogod: why?03:42
Razor-XFLAC pwnz03:42
Razor-Xkevogod: yes, it is03:42
thechitowncubsPretty please, I can't find it anywhere! :(03:42
_kazWhat is wrong with this distro??? Lots of other people have this problem as well it seems. Why is it so finicky?03:42
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synd_kaz: i dont see it much03:43
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syndApple pwnz :D03:43
thechitowncubsI'm not having a problem with it03:43
thechitowncubsI just want to know how to do something03:43
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_kazdebootstrap error @ coreutils during install. I've tried many different discs (burnt as low as 4x), kubuntu AND ubuntu both fail at the same spot during install.03:44
_kazI am guessing this is code related.03:44
synd_kaz: have you thought about your hardware being defective?03:44
zyth_kaz, it's probably hardware03:44
_kazwhich hardware?03:44
syndcd drive03:44
syndwho knows?03:44
KodeKAhhhh, i ran amixer sset Tone on, then i moved up my bass, and my sound got all distorted...I don't think the drivers are separating the bass from the channels and  sending it to the subwoofer.03:44
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syndswap the drive and then try03:44
_kazI've tried different cd-roms, put in a brand new cable, ran memtest (and tried new mem)03:45
syndif it does it again, then its nto the drive03:45
Razor-X_kaz: what architecture?03:45
syndtry installing on another computer03:45
_kaztried everything. It is a abit via based board.03:45
anto9usthechitowncubs: install parted and gparted, then sudo gparted and right click the drive and partition you want to resize and select resize/move03:45
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andaxi have some trouble enabling the java plugin in mozilla, mozilla-firefox, and opera. the /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins dir contains the following files with 777 permissions: flashplayer.xpt  libflashplayer.so  libgcjwebplugin.so  libjavaplugin_oji.so , what else do I need to make it work?03:45
_kazsynd: works on another computer. I think the problem is with ubuntu + some hardware I'm using.  A incompatibility.03:45
vinuxIn Debian alsa drivers for my sound card wouldn't work. Said incorrect module parameters or something like that. But in Ubuntu it works great without any configuring. Hmmm I wonder what's the big difference03:46
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anto9usthechitowncubs: that should read select drive then right click partition03:46
synd_kaz: have you tried a different cd drive?03:46
_kazI dug up my old 5.04 beta disc that I know works (its installed on my laptop) and THAT disc gets the same error at the same spot.03:46
_kazsynd: yes, see above. But yes... tried 3 different CD-ROM/DVD drives03:46
kevogodI just got my Ubuntu CDs in the mail today.03:46
bhartmanHi, everyone.  I've got Ubuntu running 90% of the way I want it, but I can't get sound to work correctly on my system.  I get event sounds (opening and closing a window, etc.) but I don't get game sounds, or movie clip sounds, etc.  Can anyone lend me a hand?03:47
vinuxkevogod, cool how long did it take?03:47
thechitowncubsanto9us, but it is an active partition, how can i get it an enviornment where it isn't used?03:47
synd_kaz: i see. odd nonetheless03:47
kevogodvinux: A while.03:47
Spugkevogod: are they cool? :)03:47
_kazkev: my friend did too... they sent him 10... he couldn't install because it errored at some (other) part during the install.03:47
thechitowncubsbecause the ubuntu livecd seems to use the hard drive and its not possible03:47
calamarikevogod: oh, cool.. maybe I'll be getting mine soon too :)03:47
_kazSeems like the installer needs work still.03:47
kevogodSpug: Yea, they are pretty neat.03:47
Spug:)03:47
calamari<-- still running the warty03:47
andaxbhartman, it will never work, sudo sh, killall esd , and you're fine03:47
syndkevogod: how many did you get?03:47
anto9usthechitowncubs: download and burn http://www.sysresccd.org/ boot off it and use gparted in that03:48
kevogodThe AMD64 one is yellow and x86 is red.03:48
syndcalamari: why dontcha d/l it?03:48
calamarisynd: dialup03:48
kevogod10 x86 and 1 AMD6403:48
syndcalamari: fair enough03:48
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thechitowncubsanto9us: it comes with gparted?03:48
bhartmanandax:  So I need to remove esd from my system?03:48
anto9usthechitowncubs: yes03:48
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andaxbhartman, just kill it, so you can have sound :)03:48
odie5533Is there a good ftp client aside from gftp?03:48
thechitowncubsnice, i'll try it03:48
calamarisynd: I'd probably still d/l it using dx, but I'm out of cdr's hehe03:48
thechitowncubsThanks, I'll let you know :)03:48
cthulfuegoodie5533: 'lftp'03:48
_kazWhere is the most active devevelopment forum for ubuntu? Mailing lists? ubuntuforums?03:49
syndkevogod: how long ago did you order them?03:49
kevogodcalamari: When did you order yours?03:49
bhartmanandax:  Ok, thanks.  Will I have to kill it each time I reboot?03:49
_kazI want to find out what is up with this debootstrap error.03:49
kevogodsynd: Well, let me check.03:49
odie5533Any GUI ftp client?03:49
IcemanV9laptop disaster stories --> http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=237303:49
calamarikevogod: I don't remember, but it wasn't long after they became orderable03:49
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cthulfuegoodie5533: Why would you do that?03:49
_kazI'm going on day 4 of trying to install ubuntu on this box03:49
andaxbhartman, no, you can just delete it, type something like rm `which esd` and you'll have sound :)03:49
odie5533Gftp does not work well for me03:49
anto9usodie5533: firefox03:49
cthulfuegoodie5533: Use nautilus03:49
vinuxandax, what's this esd?03:49
calamariI should probably get some cedr's to back up my stuff anyways :P03:50
odie5533I'm on Gnome03:50
synd_kaz: well its obviously a hardware issue.. dont know what else to tell you other than to tryto find the culprit?03:50
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cthulfuego!esd is Enlightened Sound Daemon03:50
bhartmanandax:  Thanks!  What is esd, and why did they plague my machine with it?? :)03:50
synd_kaz: did you do a google search?03:50
ubotuokay, cthulfuego03:50
Speedy2kvidell: Could you send me one more file?  I need libpci.so.203:50
vinuxcthulfuego, thanks03:50
kevogodThey were shipped 2005-05-2603:50
Speedy2What's the command to find out what libraries an executable is linked against? ld?03:50
andaxbhartman, too long to tell ... just kill it and you'll be fine :)03:50
kevogodThey arrived today, 2005-06-1403:50
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_kazmany.... biab03:50
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nernhey03:51
nerni love beep media player03:51
nernbut whenever i start playback it just sits there03:51
kevogodAlthough I placed my order like May 14th or something03:51
ardob11what's a good BT client that lists downloads and uploads rather than open new windows for each one?03:51
Speedy2err, ld is linker03:51
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syndkevogod: i meant.. when did you originally order them?03:51
nernit hangs03:51
nernhow can i fix this03:51
calamarinern: I edure bmp, I03:51
cthulfuegoubotu, no esd is Enlightened Sound Daemon. By using a sound server to access your sound device, multiple applications can connect to the server at once and all make noise simultaneously.03:51
ubotucthulfuego: okay03:51
Spugnern: killall esd03:51
bhartmanThanks, andax . :))03:51
syndnern: killall esd03:51
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kevogodardob11: Azureus... although you'll need Java.03:51
calamariendure rather.. I'd love it if it would go to the system notification area when minimized03:51
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syndnern: which audio output plugin is it using?03:51
vinuxcthulfuego, thanks for the info on that03:51
thechitowncubsanto9us: Thanks for taking the time when I needed it :)03:51
kevogodsynd: Like around May 14th, don't know exact date03:52
nernsec03:52
anto9usthechitowncubs: no problem :)03:52
ardob11it doesnt' work for me, I need to forward some ports and I don't have access to the firewall03:52
syndkevogod: ah ok03:52
kevogodsynd: Check your order, it probably has shipped.03:52
vinuxkevogod, I'm getting 10 cds in the mail03:52
syndkevogod: doing it right now03:52
nernYAY03:53
cthulfuegotypical03:53
nernfixed it03:53
nernit was using oss by default03:53
nerni just had to set it to use ESD03:53
Speedy2Ok, I guess kvidell isn't around...can someone else DCC me their libpci.so.2 and run ldd on 'lspci' to see if I need anything else?03:53
nern:)03:53
nernthanks synd03:53
ardob11kevogod: it doesnt' work for me, I need to forward some ports and I don't have access to the firewall03:53
nernsynd: i love you....03:53
nernsynd: not in a gay way03:53
syndnern: no problem03:53
andaxanyone knows how to enable the java plugin under any browser? /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins has the files "flashplayer.xpt  libflashplayer.so  libgcjwebplugin.so  libjavaplugin_oji.so" all with 777 , what else do I need?03:53
nernso long03:53
cthulfuegoSpeedy2: apt-get install --reinstall pciutils03:54
syndkevogod: nice! they were shipped 5/2603:54
kevogodI believe one design flaw with the CD design is the black text on red background for the install CD of x86.03:54
Speedy2cthulfuego: I don't have access to a Linux machine, I am troubleshooting the Ubuntu install03:54
cthulfuegoSpeedy2: Ftp the package03:54
Speedy2cthulfuego:  The package is a .deb, no?03:55
andaxdoes linux really support java anyway? :) huh03:55
cthulfuegoSpeedy2: yes03:55
syndwill they always have CDs for shipped for free?03:55
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kevogodIt's not too hard to read since I have decent eyes, but it probably would not be the best for those with bad eyes.03:55
IcemanV9andax: did you check this out? > http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre03:55
Speedy2cthulfuego:  Ok, I am having with the Ubuntu installer -- I have no Linux system to deal with .debs03:55
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cthulfuegoSpeedy2: Eh03:56
Speedy2anto9us: Thank you very much! :)03:56
cthulfuegoSpeedy2: Aren't you *in* the installer?03:56
anto9usSpeedy2: no problem :)03:56
jr0129everytime i run synaptics i get the following error message " Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic: Child terminated with 1 status" does anyone know what is going on?03:56
Speedy2cthulfuego: I am, right now, in Windows03:56
vinuxIcemanV9, ack I was just going to tell him that :)03:56
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Speedy2anto9us: If it is not much to ask, can you run 'ldd lspci' and let me know if any other libraries are needed?03:56
syndanyone listen to the TWiT podcast?03:57
andaxIcemanV9, sure I did the only problem is that there is no such package named "sun-j2re1.5|03:57
jr0129?03:57
kevogodsynd: They will until Shuttleworth's billions run out.03:57
IcemanV9vinux: yep. unoffical, google and wiki are your best friends ;)03:57
andaxso i downloaded the installer, copied the plugins to the plugins directory , gave em 777 and nothing happened03:57
vinuxIcemanV9, :)03:57
syndkevogod: i see.03:57
xiaogilHow to open a text file with the charset BIG5 with gedit used in terminal ?03:58
IcemanV9andax: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories - maybe that's why you didn't see it03:58
bartekpandax: java-package can create java .deb03:58
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andaxoh thanks03:58
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Speedy2Can someone run 'ldd lspci' at a console and tell me if anything other than libpic.so.2 is needed?03:59
anto9usSpeedy2: I ran it on /usr/lib/libpci.so.2 and it returned libc.so.6 => /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 (0xb7eba000) and /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x80000000)03:59
Speedy2Ah03:59
andaxIcemanV9, okay i have added multiverse, i had the others already included, still no package named "sun-j2re1.5"04:00
andaxcan you give me an ftp address or a link to the package?04:00
bartekpandax: java-packge it's script, you must download jre from sun and create .deb04:01
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Miksmmm i changed the language of my ubuntu....and i also changed the language of the open office and firefox....how can i change it back to english?04:02
bartekpandax: make-jpkg04:02
andaxbartekp, like I said I've already installed sun's stuff, how could I have "libjavaplugin_oji.so" in "/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins" ?04:02
andaxbut that just does not work04:02
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anto9usnight all :)04:04
Speedy2anto9us: Good night :)04:04
vinuxnite anto9us04:04
IcemanV9andax: wow. ok. didn't see it here, too. anyhow, do you have this directory /usr/java/jrel1.5.0_02?04:05
bartekpandax: /where/is/java/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/04:06
bartekpandax: ln -s /where/is/java/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/04:06
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quamwhere can you edit the gnome application menu? i've got kde installed as well, and i wanna get rid of the kde shit from the application menus04:06
andaxsh-3.00# ls /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/04:06
andaxflashplayer.xpt  libflashplayer.so  libgcjwebplugin.so  libjavaplugin_oji.so04:06
andaxit's there....04:06
syndquam: System Tools > Menu Editor04:07
bartekpandax: it must be symbolic link, not copy04:07
andaxand no, i don't have /usr/java/jre*04:07
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syndquam: apt-get install smeg first04:07
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quamheh, yeah, was about to say, not there :p04:07
quamthanks04:07
IcemanV9andax: AND /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/04:07
vinuxHey guys want to see something funny? http://media.ebaumsworld.com/wmv/napoleondynamitespellingbee.wmv04:07
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syndquam: oops smeg and menu editor are 2 diff things i think..04:07
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andaxsh-3.00# ls /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/04:08
andaxlibgcjwebplugin.so  libjavaplugin_oji.so  libnullplugin.so04:08
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jr0129when i try to sudo i get the message "makaveli (screenname) is not in the sudoers file" how would i resolve this04:08
andaxso there is something really strange going on here :)04:08
quamsynd: no such package :p04:08
IcemanV9hmm.. it's there, but like bartekp said it has to be symbolic link04:08
bob2jr0129: login as the first user who installed ubuntu.  run "sudo adduser makaveli admin"04:08
syndquam: is your sources.list correct?04:09
jr0129bob2: this is the only user that i have04:09
andaxIcemanV9, symbolic link? okay... i can try that why not04:09
bob2jr0129: please tell me you didn't do an "Expert" install04:09
quamsynd: should be, i have everything but the back shit04:09
syndquam: yeah, dont need the backports04:09
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jr0129bob2: unfortunately yes i did due to the fact that i have to install grub on the root partition and not the mbr04:09
bigbill52asometime it doesnt make the entry in sudoers04:09
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bob2jr0129: oh well04:09
syndquam: smeg is in my repos04:09
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jr0129bob2: oh well?04:10
capiwhat do I do with a .deb package?04:10
jr0129bob2: do u mean i have to reinstall?04:10
bigbill52aif you were asked for a root password, then it does not make the entry into sudoers...04:10
quamwhich repository synd?04:10
bob2jr0129: oh well, you presumably know the root password, so you can fix it yourself04:10
syndquam: not sure04:10
syndgoogle smeg04:10
jr0129bob2: how do i fix it myself i don't know what to do?04:10
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bob2jr0129: login as root. run the command I gave you.04:11
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jr0129bob2: i can't login as root it won't let me run the login screen setup04:11
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bigbill52ahe can log in as root04:11
KodeKcapi, dpkg -i <pkg>04:11
bigbill52ahe cant04:11
quamsynd: i enabled the backports, smeg is in there04:11
bigbill52ahe has to start a terminal window04:11
bigbill52asu04:11
bigbill52apassword04:11
bigbill52aand then gdmsetup04:11
bigbill52aand change gdmsetup so that he can login as root04:11
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bigbill52abrb04:12
syndquam: odd04:12
syndquam: i must have gotten smeg when i had backports enabled04:12
jr0129bob2: i get the error "failed to run gdmsetup: child terminated with 1 status04:12
bob2jr0129: er, from a terminal04:12
bob2jr0129: don't run gdmsetu pthen04:12
andaxokay it still doesn't work04:12
bob2jr0129: su from a user terminal04:12
xiaogilHow to force the command cat to read a file with a given charset ?04:12
quamsynd: well, hoary-extras, sorry, not hoary-backports04:12
syndoh.04:12
jr0129bob2: i can't su it won't let me it say i am not part of the sudoers04:12
bob2xiaogil: cat doesn't care at all about charsets04:12
bob2jr0129: read again.  "su", not "sudo"04:13
andaxthanks for all the help, i'll be back in a few years i hope linux will keep evolving at this speed.... but till back to osx04:13
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penguinboycan you apt-get shockwave???04:13
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bob2no04:13
xiaogilbob2: and with gedit ?04:13
Levinehai04:13
xjoelxwas the gstreamer mpeg2-dec not included with the hoary release?04:13
bob2xiaogil: no I idea, I use emacs04:13
vinuxWow this is the funniest thing i've ever seen!!!!! --> http://media.ebaumsworld.com/portapotty.wmv04:14
jr0129bob2: when i run the command adduser makaveli admin it says that the groub admin does not exist04:14
xiaogilbob2: so, with emacs ?04:14
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bob2jr0129: admins then04:15
TokenBadok this is getting old04:16
bob2vinux: try #offtopic, please, we can all browse ebaumsworld ourselves...04:16
TokenBadlast 2 times i went afk04:16
jr0129bob2: admins doesn't exist either04:16
TokenBadI come back and x-chat is closed04:16
bob2jr0129: oh man04:16
bob2jr0129: then just edit /etc/sudoers and add yourself04:16
vinuxbob2, oh sorry just thought it was funny04:16
bob2I'm 99.99% sure you didn't need to "expert" install, tho04:17
kvidelljr0129: are you using the alpha release?04:17
bob2jr0129: rob     ALL=(ALL) ALL04:17
bob2jr0129: you want a line like that04:17
kvidellThey didn't start using the "admins" group trick until after the final release04:17
TokenBadany ideas about why x-chat would close?04:17
jr0129kvidell: i have no clue04:17
kvidellhm, k04:17
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jr0129bob2: could it possible be adm04:17
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Miksif i translated openoffice and firefox to another language..how can i switch it back to english?04:20
^thehatsrule^Miks, i would assume so04:20
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eruinanyone else having trouble with dbus crashing?04:22
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TokenBadno but I am having trouble with x-chat04:22
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synddpkg -i <.deb> to install .deb files, correct?04:23
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Xenguysynd: prepend sudo04:24
syndcourse04:24
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TokenBadanyone have had problems with x-chat closing when you are afk?04:28
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newbhiehi everyone04:30
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vinuxTokenBad, not yet :)04:31
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joaquinzdoes anybody know where can i find the splashy project home page?04:31
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joaquinzor how is the called now?04:31
manitoba98xpDoes anyone have experience with madwifi?04:31
manitoba98xpI'm trying, but I'm getting an error04:32
TokenBadits weird..it will stay on..and then if I go afk for like hours04:32
TokenBadand come back its closed04:32
TokenBadand no error msg04:32
newbhiehow can i change the default filebrowser in Hoary?04:32
abarbacciahey guys - i have a daemon i need to run from bootup - i added a script to the init.d folder and ran update-rc.d with the correct values but it seems like its getting killed every time04:32
abarbacciai have the script echo output so i know its running but the daemons never survive04:32
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GMAN2003alright, i need help04:33
GMAN2003hello, anybody here04:33
manitoba98xpi'm here04:33
vinuxGMAN2003, me too04:33
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newbhiebut you need to be specific with ur problem GMAN04:34
manitoba98xpcan any1 help me with madwifi?04:34
newbhiegoogle how to ask the smart way?04:34
joaquinz??04:34
joaquinzhelloo :P ?04:34
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GMAN2003well anyone know how to install an RPM package?04:35
GMAN2003im brand new to linux04:35
^thehatsrule^GMAN2003, for ubuntu?04:35
matjan_hi, every time i boot, i see the following error: "ror: temporary failure in name resolution", what does this mean?04:35
^thehatsrule^you should get .deb's if possible04:35
^thehatsrule^if not, use alien-debs04:35
newbhiegman use alien to convert rpm to deb04:35
newbhieman alien04:35
GMAN2003alien being???04:36
joaquinzdoes anybody know where can i find the splashy project home page?04:36
joaquinzor how is the called now?04:36
joaquinz??04:36
newbhiewat do u mean joaquins04:36
kevogodYou will probably have to explain more to him as he is BRAND SPANKIN' NEW to Linux.04:36
naliothGMAN2003: use "alien"04:36
kevogodnalioth: That means nothing to him.04:37
newbhiegman alien converts packages to anything u want..04:37
GMAN2003right, ive got ubuntu, just installed, is alien an app i have to add somwehere else04:37
naliothGMAN2003: open a terminal and type "man alien"04:37
newbhienope, its already installed "tab alien" in ur console.04:37
kevogodTell him how to open up a Terminal.04:38
GMAN2003nah im there04:38
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nomasteryodaglad you made it Linux GMAN200304:38
newbhietype "alien --help"04:38
newbhieor "man alien"04:38
caonexi installed ubuntu from knoppix and forgot to assign a passwd to root, how can i reset it? do i have to boot knoppix again?04:38
kevogodK, well I have done support for a few apps and you have to assume the person knows nothing about anything.04:39
GMAN2003well ive got the manual up, so will read through04:39
nomasteryodacaonex, there is not one04:39
naliothcaonex: ubuntu doesnt use 'root' account04:39
caonexnalioth, it does not?04:39
nomasteryodayou "sudo"04:39
GMAN2003yeah, i do tech support for cctv and other software apps, first time running linux04:39
caonexnomasteryoda, i have ubuntu in my computer and i have a root04:39
GMAN2003trying to install apps beyond the stuff in the addremove04:39
newbhiegman2003 welcome to linux...04:39
nomasteryodait uses the first user on the machine as admin04:39
kevogodcaonex: It uses the Mac OS X model to explain in simpler terms.04:39
nomasteryodacaonex, you must have changed it04:39
caonexkev0r, what about root terminal?04:40
nomasteryodai mean from the normal04:40
nomasteryodayour password04:40
caonexi have a user not in sudoers apparently04:40
caonexnomasteryoda, it does not work04:40
naliothcaonex: ubuntu uses "sudo" to keep utter n00bs (and others who think they're infallible) from 'shooting off their feet'04:40
GMAN2003is a zip format better?04:40
newbhiecaonex read ubuntuguide that would help u.04:41
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naliothGMAN2003: for what purpose?04:41
pulaskiI just learned of ubuntu, can anyone tell me how its related to Debian?04:41
newbhiegman i suggest u use 7zip if u like.04:41
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kevogodUbuntu is a derivative of Debian.04:41
GMAN2003well im just trying to install limewire04:42
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GMAN2003learning all the different packages and whatnot04:42
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matjan_anyone check my question?04:42
pulaskiThank you kevogod, but what does that mean? does ubunto have apt-get or dpkg?04:42
GMAN2003whats the best way you guys install all of your apps?04:42
newbhiepulaski Ubuntu is based on Debian, which install debian the easy way.04:42
Miksdoes somebody know how to translate firefox and openoffice to another language?04:42
newbhiegman dpkg and synapti.04:42
newbhiesynaptic*04:42
mebaran151Miks, i18n04:43
mebaran151dll those packs04:43
mebaran151how to make one04:43
mebaran151is a little bit more involved04:43
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Miksil8n?04:43
mebaran151do a search in synaptic for i18n04:43
Miksok04:43
Miksthanks a lot04:43
wirjocan anyone teach me how to schedule tasks in Ubuntu?04:43
newbhiegman also apt-get04:43
mebaran151you will see like firefox-language-pakc-de too04:43
caonexnalioth, well i guess i ran root terminal and did passwd, hehe04:43
Miksmy problem is that i changed it to spanish..and now i want it back to english04:44
caonexnalioth, i rather have root, is more secure04:44
GMAN2003yeah, i wish i could type in apt-get limewire04:44
mebaran151gman it would be apt-get install limewire04:44
newbhiecaonex, root is dangerous for a newbhie like us.04:44
pulaskinewbhie, thank you.  IMHO those are the killer apps of the century.04:44
naliothcaonex: whatever you desire, it is YOUR machine04:44
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wirjodoes anyone know how to schedule tasks?04:45
mebaran151wirjo in anacron04:45
newbhiespecially "rm -rf *" which is not alias in default Ubuntu installation.04:45
mebaran151somewhere04:45
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GMAN2003the only thing im having problems with is installing appz, getting annoying04:45
naliothGMAN2003: use gtk-gnutella (limewire leaves much to be desired)04:45
wirjomebaran151 - can you teach me step by step?04:45
newbhiewirjo "man cron or at"04:45
Opetsssssplease help me04:45
mebaran151wirjo04:45
mebaran151I have never actually done it04:45
naliothGMAN2003: use synaptic04:45
Rockretdoes anyone knows if ubuntu works with pentium MMX 233 and 98 Mb Ram ?04:45
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pulaskiThank you all, cya ....04:46
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newbhieit work if you does'nt use GNOME use XFCE rather04:46
abarbacciaRockret, ram is a bit low - possibly not because gnome is a little heavy for that ram level -04:46
newbhieROckret04:46
Rockretand ?04:46
Rockretany guidelines ?04:47
newbhierockret u can also use fluxbox...04:47
joaquinzdoes anybody know where can i find the splashy project home page?04:47
joaquinzor how is the called now?04:47
newbhieor "xinit"04:47
GMAN2003nalioth, so there are like at least a dozen different synaptic architectures to install, what does that mean? different linux versions04:47
Rockretcame with cd instalation ? fluxbox ?04:47
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kvidellhm.. generally, how hard is it to port software from windows to linux?04:47
kvidellI want Foobar2000 >.>04:47
newbhienope apt-get04:47
PaulyWhat was the command to see what is using a device?04:47
wirjonewbhie - ive tried both cron and at, but it still doesnt work04:47
bionicCan anyone help me build the lufs module for the standard Ubuntu 5.04 kernel? Detected Linux kernel sources "/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build" do not appear to be valid, and it complains i do not have the headers installed. But I do. Appreciate it.04:47
Rockrethow much swap I need put .. with 98 Ram ?04:48
Rockretswap-file04:48
abarbacciadoulbe it is a good way to go04:48
kvidellRockret: rule of thumb is swap should be double your ram up to 16 gigs04:48
TokenBadis there a good plugin for xmms that post playing songs to x-chat?04:48
wirjonewbhie - the task is recorded when i did crontab -l and atq - but it didnt execute the command04:48
kvidellor whatever you think you'll need04:48
abarbacciakvidell, unless you are running multiple processors, you never have 8GB of ram in one system04:48
naliothGMAN2003: synaptic (to my knowledge) is only one program04:49
kvidellTokenBad: >.>04:49
kvidellor you run a mac04:49
naliothGMAN2003: you use it to install other programs04:49
GMAN2003so apparently my ubuntu already has synaptic nalioth04:49
newbhieu should google coz i havent tried to schedule, i just new to linux also.04:49
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GMAN2003when i type that in, it says i already have and wont upgrade04:49
GMAN2003so now how do i use synaptic?04:49
TokenBadkvidell, ??04:49
Rockretkurumin distro do not install with 98 Mb ram04:49
abarbacciakvidell, not sure about PPC but i know x86 can only address 4Gb with 32 bit processors04:49
kvidellTokenBad: apt-get install xmms-infopipe04:49
Rockretlet me see .. ubuntu04:49
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kvidellppc is up to 8 gigs on single and dual G5, though they don't really sell single G5 towers anymore04:50
newbhiegman if u just search the package then download it then "dpkg -i package".04:50
TokenBadok once get that is there an icon or something type in x-chat?04:50
kvidellTokenBad: That isn't EXACTLY what you want, but with a little sed/awk trickery04:50
kvidellnope04:50
kvidellit's a terminal app04:50
kvidellit pipes info04:50
kvidellyou hvae to shape it yourself04:50
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kvidellit's the only thing I personally know of to do it04:51
TokenBadum....ok04:51
naliothGMAN2003: System > Administration > Synaptic Package Mangler04:51
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shad0w1eanyone here know how to "clear out" my amaroK music collection???04:51
PaulyWhat was the command to see what is using a device?04:51
abarbacciashad0w1e, delete the .amarok folder in your home04:51
abarbacciashad0w1e, it'll make amarok as if it were run for the 1st time04:51
shad0w1eabarbaccia,  is that really the best way?04:51
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shad0w1eevery time I delete an album I need to do that?04:51
abarbacciashad0w1e, oh no!04:52
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abarbacciashad0w1e, all you need to do is update the collection - scan the folders again04:52
shad0w1ewell I deleted about 50 albums04:52
shad0w1eoh04:52
shad0w1eitll remove missing stuff as well as add new stufF?04:52
newbhiedoes anyone know to change the default filebrowser in Hoary?04:52
abarbacciaindeed04:53
shad0w1eok I just realized what happened. I moved my deleted stuff elsewhere04:53
shad0w1eand it was still picking it up...04:53
shad0w1ethats what happened!04:53
shad0w1ewell abarbaccia , thanks!04:53
abarbaccian p - i guess04:54
naliothnewbhie: System > Preferences > Preferred Applications04:54
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newbhiedoes anyone know to change the default filebrowser in Hoary? I want to use the use app/tool/file-browser as the default.04:55
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newbhienalioth is that it04:55
naliothnewbhie: have you tried it?04:55
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newbhiehow about in Gconf editor? Can i do it...04:56
newbhienope04:56
GMAN2003nalioth, so how would i install gtk-gnutella?04:56
naliothnewbhie: i know nothing about gconf04:56
newbhieok thanks...04:56
naliothGMAN2003: start synaptic and click the search (& then use it) or scroll down to the "G" section and start lookin04:56
dbxli spent all night trying to get java to work in firefox lol04:56
fr500newbhie, you don't need Gconf04:56
GMAN2003not there04:56
fr500newbie, open  open the regular browser04:57
GMAN2003a lot of GTK-***********04:57
abcdi have a question about media types, someone could help me?04:57
fr500newbie and go to it's preferences04:57
dbxli just dont have time for getting obvious stuff that should already be working04:57
visorabcd: what question?04:57
GMAN2003just not gnutella04:57
bionicHow do i install the kernel source on default ubuntu 5.04?04:57
fr500there is an "always open in browser windows"04:57
newbhiefr500 because i want to set it as mandatory to all users.04:57
naliothGMAN2003: www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats   enable universe and multiverse04:57
fr500newbhie, no clue then04:57
fr500sorry04:57
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dbxlwe need a linux distro where everything works right outta the box04:58
newbhiefr500 ur right i use to "right-click" to use file-browser.04:58
abcdvisor, ubuntu came with mp3,avi,mpg and other media plugins?04:58
newbhiedbxl ubuntu and kubuntu works for you...04:58
fr500newbhie, in preferences, there is an "always use browser windows" or something04:58
dbxlno it doesnt04:58
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visorabcd: no, because of legal issues that is impossible (to put in the distribution the codecs) but yet you can install them04:59
newbhiebut if you like u can use Debian Sarge?04:59
dbxllike i said, i tried all night to get java working in firefox04:59
abarbacciaanybody really good with linux active that can help me with this: register_chrdev failed04:59
naliothabcd: www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats   enable universe and multiverse04:59
levanderWhat's the name of the application that preloads libraries for you? Making loading applications faster?04:59
visorabcd: www.ubuntuguide.org04:59
HrdwrBoBprelink04:59
HrdwrBoB?04:59
newbhiethanks fr500 i'll try that04:59
abcdthanks04:59
levanderHrdwrBoB: thanks04:59
fr500newbhie, that is per user though04:59
dbxlbeen there done that, debian unofficial directions dont work04:59
visorlevander: prelink... take care when using it04:59
naliothbrb05:00
newbhiefr500 maybe i should research on Gconf.05:00
levandervisor: is it a mess to use?05:00
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fr500i think gconf is per user too05:00
fr500but i'm not sure05:00
dbxlbeen googling all night to try and find directions that work05:00
ezequielhi ppl05:00
visorlevander: no it is not, as long as you dont update or upgrade packages then trouble comes...05:00
fr500dbxl, do java apps work?05:00
fr500dbxl, like desktop apps or azureus?05:00
toresbe<OT> Anyone here have any experience with Norsk Data hardware or SINTRAN?05:00
visorlevander: because you have to "prelink" everything again05:00
dbxli just want java in my browser, something that should already be working05:01
ezequielI'm getting a 'unable to lookup magi via gethostbyname()' (the hostname of my pc is set to magi)05:01
ezequielhow can I fix this?05:01
newbhiedbxl have you tried to add plugins in firefox...05:01
visorlevander: what i did however, was to only prelink OpenOffice...05:01
levandervisor: mmmm, maybe i'll write a script to prelink all the stuff I want prelinked?05:01
dbxllol05:01
abarbacciadbxl, check www.ubuntuguide.org05:01
dbxlubuntu has blocked java05:01
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levandervisor: yeah, i don't want to prelink everything, like maybe four apps05:01
fr500abarbaccia, that doesnt work05:01
dbxli think ill go with a distro that works05:01
newbhiei think java is not yet well supported in linux... i guess05:01
dbxlubuntu isnt it05:02
fr500abarbaccia, the early version did05:02
fr500dbxl, java is not part of any linux05:02
visorlevander: you can safely, just make sure next time you update that app you prelink it again... i dont know if you know what prelink does...05:02
dbxli dont care what its part of, a browser without java support is not a browser at all05:02
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levandervisor: i only have vague idea about it modifying libaries to make them faster to load05:02
bionicHow do i install the kernel source on default ubuntu 5.04?  Please anyone?05:02
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visordbxl: you want java in firefox?05:02
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abcdubuntu doesn't came with a manual configure for alsa? alsaconf05:03
kennyhey all, could I get some help?05:03
mckinghey all05:03
fr500dbxl, windows does not have it out of the box05:03
dbxli want a distro that i dont have to fuck with for 2 weeks in order to get it to do the things i need it to do05:03
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mckingkenny: sup05:03
levandervisor: so, updating works fine, the only problem is when those prelinked libraries get updated, they are no longer prelinked?05:03
newbhiedbxl try to research on...google is your bestfriend...05:03
vile_i'm looking to use my computer as a gateway for another computer to use to connect to the internet, i've tried http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ShareInternetConnection/ but it doesnt seem to work05:03
kennyHere's my problem05:03
jj123hey I'm having problem installing vorbis-tools cause I don't have the dependencies libcurl3 and libidn11 is there anyway I can get these so vorbis will work?05:03
dbxlive been in google all night long05:03
dbxllater05:03
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visorlevander: it kind's of copy symbols or code blocks to the aplications, so an app called foo uses a library called foo.so then prelink looks for the code in foo.so to kind of add it to the app so it loads faster05:04
kennyI just installed Ubuntu and when I go into the device manager it shows the wireless card, but it doesn't actualyl show the adapter as one of the connection under network tools05:04
bartekpvisor: http://www.netfilter.org/documentation/HOWTO//NAT-HOWTO-4.html#ss4.105:04
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newbhiedbxl try to post to other forums and have your tried to goto tldp.org?05:04
mckingkenny: what kind of card?05:04
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bartekpvisor: sorry05:04
bartekpvile_: http://www.netfilter.org/documentation/HOWTO//NAT-HOWTO-4.html#ss4.105:04
levandervisor: but updating still works fine right? your updated app is just no longer prelinked?05:04
visorbartekp: no problem05:05
kennythe vendor is dell, the chipset is broadcom05:05
mckingkenny: what chipset does it say the card uses (from device manager05:05
naliothjj123: HOW are you tryin to install?05:05
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kennyBCM430605:05
visorlevander: exactly, so if you update packages then the binaries will be overwritten with the new ones which have been no prelinked05:05
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levandervisor: oh, i see what your saying, if an app is dependent upon the library, and the library gets updated, then your app is linked to the old un-updated library?05:06
visorlevander: and sometimes that makes problems, even apps not opening, so you have to do that each time you update stuff05:06
vile_bartekp, am i going to have do do that every time i restart the computer05:06
mckingkenny: most broadcom chips don't have linux drivers (broadcom policy), so you will proll have to use ndiswrapper.05:06
levandervisor: yech, that does sound like it could get messy05:06
darius___I like little boys05:06
bartekpvile_: you can make startup script d-;05:06
levandervisor: how much faster did openoffice startup after you did this?05:07
newbhie1min for me.05:07
kennyok, here's the thing, dell sends out their drivers in .exes that get unpacked05:07
mckingkenny: apt-get the ndiswrapper-utils from universe05:07
kennyubuntu comes with the ndiswrapper, at least I found it on my comp05:08
kennyhow can I get the driver from the exe?05:08
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newbhiedoes anyone know to change the default filebrowser in Hoary using Gconf? I want to use the use app/tool/file-browser as the default.05:08
mckingkenny: ok, now you need to find the drivers.  can you run the installer on a windows machine?05:08
levanderkenny: run the exe? it is probably self extracting05:08
GMAN2003nalioth, thanks for the hlep!!!!  frickin sweet!05:09
kennyright, i just tried double clicking it and it says something about not being able to dislay it05:09
pestilencekenny: unzip the exe05:09
fr500kenny, unzip filename.exe in a console works05:09
kennyyou know what, I'll figure it out, thanks05:09
kennyoh05:09
fr500kenny, ndiswrapper related?05:09
levandernewbhie: app -> tool -> file browser is really nautilus, which is the default hoary file browser05:09
kennyyea05:09
kennydell has its drivers in .exe05:10
fr500besides unzipping drivers, any other issues?05:10
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bartekpkenny: "file driver.exe" may be it is zip or rar05:10
mckingkenny: you can't run it in linux.  if it is a self unzipping exe you might try unzipping it05:10
fr500just run unzip filename.exe05:10
GMAN2003NALIOTH, THANKS AGAIN, NICE LINK, LETS ME INSTALL ANYTHING NOW05:10
levanderwhy are yall putting windows drivers on a linux box?05:10
naliothGMAN2003: np, i'm here to help05:10
nomasteryodakenny, if it is stricktly a windows binary, you can run with05:10
nomasteryodawine file.exe05:11
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naliothlevander: to watch filthy windows codec encoded pR0n05:11
nomasteryodai did that for a dell binary broadcom drivers05:11
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newbhielevander every time i open a folder it uses a file browser which does'nt look like nautilus?05:11
mckinglevander: because he has a card that doesn't have a linux driver05:11
mckingi use netgear ndis drivers for my acx111-based cards05:12
nomasteryodalevander, you have to "wrap" the drivers with ndiswrapper... lots of laptops come with such crappy wifi nics05:12
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nomasteryodabut at least they work...05:12
nomasteryodawith the ndiswrapper05:12
Paulywhat does ndiswrapper do?05:12
bartekpmcking: acx100.sf.net05:13
caonexi wrote my /etc/fstab and i have 3 partitions in one hard drive hda2 hda5 hda6 i did /dev/hda5       /mnt/hda5       vfat user,exec,rw,umask=000     0       005:13
caonex for both hda5 and hda6, but there seems to be a conflict, should i put 0 1 for one of them?05:13
nomasteryodahttp://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/05:13
rdshi guys I'm having some probems with mplayer - I've followed the guide at http://ubuntuguide.org and installed all the neccessary packages however it will not actually open movies for viewing - I've tried running it from the console and there doesn't seem to be a explanation05:13
Paulythx05:13
mckingbartekp: yeah, but the firmware doesn't work on hoary.  the acx drives come default on hoary05:13
PaulyAwwww, only for network cards:/05:13
mckingbartekp: i had to alias acx111 off to get ndiswrapper to work05:14
newbhierds what does it say? does it need plugins?05:14
rdsI ran "sudo atp-get -t hoaray install mplayer-586 mplayer-fonts05:14
PaulyHow would I install fonts from my windows?:)05:14
mckingPauly: ndis is MS api for network cards. ndis wrapper emulates that05:14
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PaulyYeah, I was thinking maybe it handled all drivers:P05:15
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Paulybut *shrugs*05:15
TokenBadwhats command to get tcl installed...apt-get install what?05:15
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UnintentionalQuestion: I want to set up my linux box as a WebMail server that basically takes e-mail from an IMAP account and from a POP3 account, puts them in folders based on a set of rules, then lets me access this sorted inbox via an exchange-like WebMail.  is there any program that could do this?05:16
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fr500Unintentional, i think you need to forward mail from your other accounts for that to wok05:17
UnintentionalTokenBad: probably tcl8.405:18
newbhiethanks guys i think i solve my problem...ubuntu forum is the answer.05:18
newbhiegtg05:18
TokenBadk05:18
newbhiesee you soon...05:19
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Madpilothi all05:19
mckingTokenBad: apt-cache search tcl05:19
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UnintentionalI can't just have it periodically access the server?  I mean, I presently use Outlook to gather mail from all my mail accounts, it just doesn't have a webmail front-end.05:19
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_nate__could anyone help me with configuring vsftpd?  I have a few questions about users05:20
mckingTokenBad: or use synaptic to tell which on comes from main05:20
Fr0Gsi got some stuff in the trash and i cant delete it you do not have permission to delete its parent folder05:20
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visorhave you people used ubuntu backports, are they _stable_ ?05:20
DeffyHi05:20
TokenBadhmm05:20
TokenBadweird05:20
TokenBadit says 8.4 is installed05:20
pestilenceUnintentional: have you looked at fetchmail/procmail?05:20
deshantmnate, what questions?05:21
benplautvisor: most people use them... yes, they are stable05:21
TokenBadbut when try to compile a eggdrop05:21
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pestilenceUnintentional: i don't know if fetchmail does imap, but it certainly does POP305:21
naliothvisor: backports have shifty quality control05:21
TokenBadit says its not05:21
TokenBador not found05:21
Deffylisten I have had a problem that is really irritating me to the point of just going back to Windows05:21
Fr0Gsi got some stuff in the trash and i cant delete it you do not have permission to delete its parent folder can someone help me05:21
naliothvisor: backports can buggle your upgradeability05:21
Lafitte-how do i make a script executable ?05:21
visornalioth: actually i dont have any problems with the software bundled by default, but i want to update beagle...05:21
_nate__does vsftpd only allow for local logins (using /etc/passwd) and anonymous logins?  Or can I add virtual users for only the ftpd?05:22
pestilenceUnintentional: it definitely supports IMAP.  see http://www.catb.org/~esr/fetchmail/05:22
visorLafitte-: "chmod +x file"05:22
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_nate__and if so, how do i set it up?05:22
IcemanV9well, Deffy - explain your problem, then maybe one of us can help ya05:22
Lafitte-visor,  ty05:22
fr500Fr0Gs, open a terminal, enter the trash directory, sudo rm -rf *05:22
DeffyFor the past few days I've been trying to get my USB WIFI thingy to work with ubuntu, but so far I havent05:22
fr500_nate__, both work05:22
naliothvisor: don't use backports or beagle (after my box wouldnt upgrade properly)05:22
Deffygotten it to work05:22
fr500you gotta read the manual05:22
fr500Deffy, what card?05:22
visorLafitte-: you can always right-click the file and in properties change its atributtes in nautilus too :)05:22
XenguyFr0Gs: be very careful with that command05:23
Lafitte-visor,  i get denied to run that   cant figure out why05:23
naliothFr0Gs: make very sure you are in the trash dir, too05:23
Fr0Gsfr500, wheres the trash directory located05:23
fr500Fr0Gs, yes, otherwise you'll hate me05:23
visorLafitte-: maybe you are not the owner, try "sudo chmod +x file"05:23
XenguyFr0Gs: it will recursively delete everything in its path05:23
fr500at your home05:23
_nate__fr500, i read the man page and it never specifies that you can only use anonymous and local, and I really wanted to know if you could create virtual users05:23
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fr500just write cd .Trash05:23
wulfepupOk.. so what are some generic reasons that my ath0 would be ridiculously slow under U but normal speed under WinXP in an Ad-Hoc set up?05:23
visornalioth: i dont have serious problems with beagle neither, do you?05:23
benplautnalioth: still good to use backports for things like firefox, or the new version of Xchat...05:23
Deffynot a card, it's a Belkin 802.11g Wireless USB Adaptor, Model F5D705005:23
fr500Deffy, same thing :p05:24
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fr500Deffy, pm me05:24
Fr0Gsthanks :)05:24
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naliothvisor: i don't know what beagle is, much less use it05:24
Lafitte-visor,  the root user cant use it   not set in permision05:24
_nate__fr500, any idea if its possible?05:24
naliothbenplaut: why? ubuntu archives has the newest firefox and such05:24
visorLafitte-: then who is the owner of the file? :S05:24
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naliothbenplaut: if you want the latest, compile it yourself (it's not that diffecult)05:24
Lafitte-visor,  root is05:24
visornalioth: beagle is the search engine from ximian, thats what it is, very useful05:25
Chicago60657i need to install lame so i can play mp3 on ubuntu....i don't have internet access under linux at the moment, so i need to either download the .deb or compile from scratch...i'm not too experienced at either so advice / wiki pointers would be appreciated05:25
fr500_nate__, i'm pretty sure it works, but i don't use vsftpd much05:25
BROKEN_LADDERthis is off the topic, but have any of you guys ever moved and had stuff shipped that you couldn't take?  what's a cheap way to do that?05:25
Lafitte-visor,  but i cant add execute to it05:25
mckingbenplaut: why do you need the newest firefox (security patch in the current)05:25
benplautnalioth: for the average user (like me), it's less of a hassle to just use backports, etc05:25
visorLafitte-: root can always change permission in files05:25
Lafitte-visor,  oh  cant in my user     but maybe in terminal05:25
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benplautmcking: compiled with GCC4, so loads alot faster05:25
Lafitte-visor,  i dont know command  let me go read05:25
kaliasmcking: Hey :)  I didn't get a chance to say thanks last night for your help :)05:26
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naliothbenplaut: as long as you are aware the qc is not controlled, and the versioning can bungle your upgradeability05:26
mckingkalias: no prob05:26
wulfepupHrrrmmmm  correction.. the slow part is the DNS I believe....05:26
visorLafitte-: open a terminal, then go the directory to where the file is, then do "sudo chmod +x file" without the quotes of course, and replace file with the filename :P05:26
kaliasmcking: everything is working great!!05:26
wulfepupThat I think I can fix.05:26
Madpilotquick question: should my CD drives be "owned" by root?05:26
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caonexanybody knows what is the dumps and pass in /etc/fstab?05:27
Unintentionalpestilence: thanks.  do you know if anything does RSS?05:27
Chicago60657i need to install lame so i can play mp3 on ubuntu....i don't have internet access under linux at the moment, so i need to either download the .deb or compile from scratch...i'm not too experienced at either so advice / wiki pointers would be appreciated05:27
caonexcaonex, does it have to be different between partitions of same hard drive?05:27
visorcaonex: the fsck priority and check option i think05:27
naliothChicago60657: if you dont have internet, how are you gonna d/l the deb or source?05:27
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caonexvisor, so does not matter if i put all 0?05:27
benplautnalioth: (that didn't make sense... i think i understood)... i only use Backports to update individual programs, such as Firefox or Xchat... the GNOME or kernel components, i leave be05:27
Chicago60657under windoze05:27
cthulfuegoHmm, I compiled some stuff with gcc4 too and it doesn't make one iota of difference.05:27
mckingMadpilot: the cdrom drives are symlinks to the actual device, which should be owned by root:cdrom05:27
transgressanyone know what happened to pymusique?05:28
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visorcaonex: yes, at least put 1 on the root filesystem so it gets checked if a "hard reboot" happens (which happens when losing electrical power or such"05:28
Madpilotmcking: OK, just checking. Neither of my CD drives are auto-mounting anymore, so I'm trying to check their settings...05:28
mckingMadpilot: ah05:28
IcemanV9Chicago60657: it is fairly easy to set up the access to the internet, then you can d/l whatever you need05:28
caonexvisor, ok05:28
naliothChicago60657: under windoze, down the source and compile it (dont forget the checkinstall)05:28
visorcaonex: "man fstab" ;)05:29
mckingMadpilot: is you user in the right group?05:29
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Lafitte-visor,  helps if dont -x the file  rofl05:29
Madpilotmcking: I think so. Everything else still works - Synaptic, sudo, etc05:29
misfit-toythe only remaining thing for me is my cdrom is not working ...I mean I installed from it, so I know it's good, but I can't play any cd's from it nor browse it...any ideas?05:29
TokenBadok...I try to install eggdrop and it says can't find tcl and wants a couple files....I found one and then it ask for one called something like tcl.h05:30
Chicago60657nalioth: ok...i'll compile from source (figured that's how it would go down).  any special instructions?  like checkinstall?  not too experienced with installing form source05:30
TokenBadI did a locate for that file name and nothing05:30
pestilenceUnintentional: not sure about rss.05:30
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Fr0Gsi installed freedos by "apt-get install freedos" were does it install to05:30
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naliothChicago60657: google checkinstall and download its source, too05:30
mckingMadpilot: go to the users and groups app in the system->admin menu and make sure that the "access cdrom drives" and "can use external drives immediately" boxes are checked05:30
cthulfuegorss what?05:30
Chicago60657ok05:31
IcemanV9Unintentional: firefox does rss ... is that what you're looking for?05:31
mckingMadpilot: also make sure gnome-volume-manager is running05:31
JDahlFr0Gs, dpkg -L freedos05:31
naliothChicago60657: checkinstall is used in place of "make install". It makes debs and installes them for easier system maintenance05:31
Fr0GsJDahl, i dont have the package05:31
UnintentionalIcemanV9: no, trying to basically download RSS files and display the contents via a web page.05:32
mckingapt-get install checkinstall05:32
JDahlFr0Gs, didnt you just install it?05:32
Fr0GsJDahl, d/w i found it thanks for the help05:32
Madpilotmcking: gnome-volume-mngr is running, and my settings in users & groups all seem correct.05:32
_kazoh oh... I think I may have found my debootstrap error problem05:32
mckingMadpilot: hrm, does a usb pen dirve work?05:32
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Madpilotand the wiring on both drives is just fine - I checked that before I started up tonight... :)05:32
_kazI hit alt+ctrl+f3 and the last line is    cp: Write Error: No space left on device05:32
HrdwrBoBhaha, yes that can be somewhat limiting05:33
mcking_kaz: yeah, that'll do it05:33
Madpilotmcking: I don't own one... just a sec, will check to see what happens w/ my floppy drive...05:33
misfit-toythe only remaining thing for me is my cdrom is not working ...I mean I installed from it, so I know it's good, but I can't play any cd's from it nor browse it...any ideas?05:33
_kazwhat device? my hd?05:33
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mcking_kaz: tha partition that you are debootsrapping in05:33
Madpilotmisfit-toy: sounds like we've got similar problems - scroll up & check some of what mcking has been suggesting for me05:34
wulfepuphrrrmmm how long does it usually take for new versions of stuff in apt-get to be updated?05:34
_kazwould that be the swap? hmm05:34
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mcking_kaz: df -h05:34
_kazI have a NTFS partition on the drive05:34
Madpilotmcking: no automount with my floppy drive, either - that should be automounting as well, right? (can you tell I don't use the floppy much?)05:35
_kazbut there is plenty of space on the partition I am making for ubuntu05:35
mcking_kaz: shows how much space is used in each parition05:35
mckingMadpilot: i haven't used one in years  ;)05:35
_kazright... but how do I get a shell?05:35
_kazI am in the installer.05:35
ws009hallo05:35
Madpilotmcking: I keep my floppy drive for old time's sake... :) and because I don't have a USB pendrive quite yet...05:36
misfit-toyMadpilot, yeah, I checked the permissions already, but thanks05:36
wulfepuphey hi ws009!05:36
mcking_kaz: alt+f2 whoul take you to an emergency shell05:36
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mckingMadpilot: i couldn't exist without a pendrive05:36
ws009hallo05:36
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Paulyhum05:36
pibarnasI haven't found a way to have sound in ubuntu. The system recognizes my two sound cards: an onboard cmipci and a offboad sound blaster live. None of them works on gnome, despite the sound is enabled. I've searched too many sites, but no one helped me. Nothing seems to works. Does anyone here fix this problem?05:37
misfit-toyso the standard on ubuntu for cdroms is /dev/cdrom correct?05:37
PaulyAnyone here have any clue how I can find my virtual machine?:)05:37
_kazso what should I be looking for? /cdrom is @ 100%, but there is space on the rest....  there is tmpfs05:37
misfit-toyI installed from this very cdrom and yet ubuntu can't play cd's from it.05:37
_kaztmpfs  30.1M used 69.9M total.05:37
Madpilotmcking: I'm just waiting for the price to drop a bit more... and until I get around to installing front USB ports on my box!05:37
benplautmisfit-toy: /media/cdrom005:37
misfit-toyI was wondering if maybe it's something like in FC where it's really /media...05:37
misfit-toybenplaut, dammit!!! thank you05:38
misfit-toybrb05:38
mcking_kaz: is should be something like /target or /mnt or something05:38
fr500Pauly, what are you talking about, explain to me plz05:38
mckingMadpilot: I have a keyboard with usb ports on it05:38
_kazoh.. yeah I see it... its 7.3M and 7.3M used.05:38
mckingMadpilot: Viewsonic ku70905:38
_kazHow big is ubuntu???05:38
^thehatsrule^depends _kaz05:38
mcking_kaz: did you say 7.3M???05:38
Paulyfr500 - I have a virtual machine of windows XP running in QEMU on Ubuntu05:38
mckingor 7.sG05:38
PaulyI am wanting to access some files that are currently on it05:39
benplaut_kaz: about 350mb for a server, and 3.5gb for a full desktop05:39
mcking7.3G05:39
_kazmcking... us  7.3M... yeah hmm strange.05:39
mcking_kaz: you messed up on partitioning05:39
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_kazI don't know how :(.... I thought I did it right.05:39
benplauti'm using a built-from server system05:39
x_o1How do I install kernel sources?05:39
benplautso only 2.7gb05:39
wulfepupfr500: I ended up getting the wireless running ... the problem was something or other about the setpci subroutines? anyway all fixed now.05:39
mcking_kaz: go back and fix the partitioning first :)05:39
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mcking_kaz: it's alright, we've all done it05:39
fr500ohh05:39
fr500Pauly, is qemu fast enough?05:40
fr500wulfepup, nice05:40
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_kazI'm just trying to be careful not to delete this ntfs partition05:40
TokenBadwhat decoder is needed to play wmv files in ubuntu?05:40
Madpilotmcking: very cool. I'm (slowly) building a front panel into a spare 5.25" drive bay cover - USB, audio, switches for the lights, etc05:40
_kazit has some stuff on it that is very important & not backed up.05:40
benplautMadpilot: soldering it yourself?05:40
wulfepupbbl05:40
mckingx_o1: apt-cache search05:40
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mckingx_o1: apt-cache search kernel05:41
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mckingx_o1: apt-get install linux-source-2.6.1005:41
Paulyhum, forget it fr500 :)05:41
PaulyThanks anyways:P05:41
Madpilotbenplaut: not the USB, no. The audio & switches, yes. They'er already built & installed, just no panel for them yet...05:41
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benplautMadpilot: sweet...05:42
x_o1mcking:  I did that, and now am in synaptic, but it seems like the kernel sources are only available for 2.4.27 kernel05:42
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mckingx_o1: linux-source-2.6.10 is the package, might be in universe05:42
x_o1Ah, sorry, you are right!05:42
misfit-toydev$ sudo mount /media/cdrom /mnt/cdrom05:42
misfit-toymount: /media/cdrom is not a block device05:42
_kazmcking: could you walk me through paritioning in private or something? I'm not a *nix newbie.... I'm pretty sure I've done this right.05:43
_kazI only have the 1 drive & the 1 existing parition I need to protect.05:43
mckingmisfit-toy: got it backwards   /dev/cdrom  /dev/cdrom05:43
MobyTurbomisfit-toy, the first argument should be a device, not a directory05:43
_kazoooooooh. nevermind. I see the problem now.05:43
misfit-toymaybe I am asleep, let me look again, thsx05:43
MobyTurbomisfit-toy, the second argument should be a mountpoint, a directory.05:43
mcking_kaz: k05:44
Madpilotbenplaut: yeah, it's pretty cool. Got the audio headphone port working, still need to work on the mic port leads. the lights were easy - they run right off one of my PSU's spare molexes...05:44
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misfit-toydev$ sudo mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom05:44
misfit-toymount: No medium found05:44
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misfit-toyand there is a cd in the drive, and I installed from this cd drive, it works05:45
AlwaysModestwhat kernel does 5.04 use?05:45
MobyTurbo/dev/cdrom is a symlink, does it point (look at it with ls -l) to the proper IDE or SCSI device?05:45
misfit-toyAlwaysModest, type 'uname -r' in a term05:45
mckingAlwaysModest: uname -a05:45
AlwaysModestargh05:45
AlwaysModestby default...?05:46
kakahallo05:46
kakai want migrate from windows to ubuntu... can some body help me?05:46
_kazshould there always be a 'primary' parition? Is it ok that I have 3 logical parititons?05:46
Fr0Gsi got captive ntfs installed how do i use it05:46
mcking2.6.10-x-38605:46
binbrainquestion about cdbs, do you use dh_make first and then mod the rules file for CDBS rules?05:46
fr500kaka, migrate what?05:46
mcking_kaz: you can install into logical just fine05:46
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Fr0Gsi got captive ntfs installed how do i use it05:47
Fr0Gs?05:47
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microhaxoGuys i just installed LINUX ati drivers, but i get this error sudo: fglrxconfig: command not found05:47
_kazok... there is no primary partition though.05:47
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_kazat all.05:47
Fr0Gs?05:48
microhaxoanyone help meh05:48
microhaxoinstallin these ati drivers, they wont work..05:48
mckingmicrohaxo: what's up05:48
microhaxoim trying to install these ati drivers05:48
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microhaxoi install them05:48
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mckingmicrohaxo: sorry, don't have ati05:48
microhaxoit says reboot05:49
kakai have a trouble to install ubuntu05:49
microhaxoi do05:49
microhaxobut they are not installed05:49
GMAN2003SO ANYONE RECOMMEND ANY GOOD APPZ TO INSTALL IN UBUNTU, I JUST INSTALLED IT05:49
Quest-MasterGMAN2003: check synaptic?05:49
MobyTurboGMAN2003, install something to fix your capslock key05:49
Fr0Gsll05:49
mckingGMAN2003: please stop shouting.  what kind of apps do you want?05:49
MadpilotMobyTurbo: :)05:50
eekranohows it going all?05:50
GMAN2003lol, relaz mcking, mp3 stuff, video games, etc05:50
bartekpGMAN2003: neverball05:50
kakain the last install.... it say ... can't support the display05:50
kakaso my ubuntu run in text mode05:50
deshantmGMAN2003, go here: http://ubuntuguide.org/05:50
mckingGMAN2003: use synaptic to browse through the software availiable.  make sure you add the universe and multiverse repositories05:51
deshantmGMAN2003, i found some apps there that i didn't know linux had05:51
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BROKEN_LADDERanyone live in san francisco?  what's the solution for broadband if you don't have a PSTN line or cable?05:52
kakaby the way ... to use ubuntu... what kind of minimal hardware ?05:52
deshantmkaka, which version of ubuntu?05:53
microhaxo#ati05:53
kakaubuntu version 305:53
kakaolder05:53
GMAN2003yeah, its sick the amount of apps in there, i just wanted to know what kind of apps you guys like05:53
kakai got from magazine here05:53
pibarnasHey, can someone help me with my SB Live?05:54
kakathat cd got from magazine05:54
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deshantmi didn't think there was a ubuntu version 305:54
deshantmi thought they started with 4.1005:55
MadpilotGMAN2003: for music, Muine - better, I think, than Rythymbox - which is what's installed in U by default.05:55
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deshantmi like beep media player, will have to check out muine05:55
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jsgotangcomuine rocks05:56
BROKEN_LADDERdoes muine have a folder browse version instead of that aweful tag grouping like rhythmbox?05:56
TokenBadlook out california...2 earthquakes just hit out in the oceans05:56
mckingBROKEN_LADDER: you can either add songs individually to the playlist, or play by album (with album covers)05:57
GMAN2003pibarnas, is your linux not detecting your sblive card?05:57
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BROKEN_LADDERhmmm05:57
pibarnasIt's detected!05:57
BROKEN_LADDERit gets the artwork way fast05:57
BROKEN_LADDERcoldplay's x&y in seconds.05:57
pibarnasas well as cmipci.05:57
pibarnasBut, no sound in gnome.05:57
MadpilotBROKEN_LADDER: Muine uses Amazon for album covers, I think...05:58
pibarnasand their volumes are in the maximum at alsamixer.05:58
gallonegrohow can i make azureus my man bt client, when i click on a bt link?05:58
jonnoi just installed the os x 10.4 upgrade and it toasted my boot menu (as in, i boot to os x without option). how do i correct this? (a url would be great)05:58
BROKEN_LADDERmuine doesn't really act like a library.  that sucks.05:58
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GMAN2003dude, muine sucks!05:58
BROKEN_LADDERi want a program like rhythmbox that uses a folder view instead of attribute views, and lets me edit tags.05:58
GMAN2003definately using XMMS already preinstalled in ubuntu05:59
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mckingBROKEN_LADDER: you have to get used to a new way of doing things05:59
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BROKEN_LADDERwhich is?05:59
MadpilotBROKEN_LADDER: I had trouble with Rythymbox not properly importing everything in my "Music" folder. no trouble from Muine w/ that...06:00
BROKEN_LADDERMadpilot what do you mean "importing"?06:00
BROKEN_LADDERit just makes a playlist.06:00
GMAN2003xmms feels a lot more like winamp which in my humble opinion is leaps and bounds better than WMP06:00
BROKEN_LADDERthat's not a library.06:00
MadpilotBROKEN_LADDER: when I told Rythymbox to import & catalog my music file - after ripping new stuff - it wasn't finding the new stuff.06:01
mckingI don't like how rythmbox "automaticlly" goes to whatever playlist i happen to be looking at06:01
BROKEN_LADDERi want something that is like rhythmbox, but just uses a directory view.  if I have two albums by some artist, but their tags aren't the same, like Coldplay and COLDPLAY, that shouldn't be a problem.06:01
misfit-toyok, so according to /etc/fstab, my cd is /dev/hdc...and I try to mount it to /dev/cdrom, 'no media found' no matter what I put in the cd player....wassup?06:01
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BROKEN_LADDERMadpilot okay, but how is muine any better?  it doesn't import at all.06:01
mckingif i'm just browsing around the library, and the song ends, it jumps to a song in the playlist06:01
mckingmuine does import06:01
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BROKEN_LADDERreally?06:02
MadpilotBROKEN_LADDER: in Muine, File --> Import? Rythymbox doing the same thing was leaving stuff out06:02
BROKEN_LADDERi don't see any album/artist list.06:02
BROKEN_LADDERi only see one pane in muine.06:02
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mckingBROKEN_LADDER: yeah, but it has a different interface for queuing songs in the library06:02
BROKEN_LADDERjust a song list.  no artists or album list.06:02
MadpilotBROKEN_LADDER: click the "Play Album" button06:02
BROKEN_LADDERdifferent?  it's nonexistent.06:03
BROKEN_LADDERthat's lame.06:03
BROKEN_LADDERwhat if I want to play genre, or play artist, not album.06:03
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mckingBROKEN_LADDER: just type a couple characters from the genre or artist06:03
mckingand the ones that aren't in the search disappear06:03
BROKEN_LADDERit's way cool how it gets the artwork though.06:03
MadpilotBROKEN_LADDER: I don't think either rythymbox or muine sort by genre. too bad, really06:03
misfit-toyok, so according to /etc/fstab, my cd is /dev/hdc...and I try to mount it to /dev/cdrom, 'no media found' no matter what I put in the cd player....wassup?06:03
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BROKEN_LADDERmuine doesn't seem to respond to the next track key.06:04
BROKEN_LADDERnext track..symbol, or whatever you want to call it.06:04
BROKEN_LADDERrhythmbox does.06:04
x_o1How do I determine the monitor settings that ubuntu has detected?06:04
mckingweird06:04
TokenBadtsunami warning for california06:04
TokenBadeveryone run06:04
mckingx_o1: xdpyinfo | less06:04
MadpilotBROKEN_LADDER: it should - I'm actually listening to the real stereo right now, though...06:04
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mckingBROKEN_LADDER: mine does06:05
BROKEN_LADDERmine doesn't.06:05
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pibarnasIt's weird: when I click on a mp3 file, totem runs tge file... but no sound is audible.06:05
ninwapibarnas, I had problems with totem too, I ditched it for xmms06:06
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BROKEN_LADDERokay, it works if i close rhythmbox.06:06
pibarnasGnome doesn't present a single sound, despite its sounds are enabled.06:06
BROKEN_LADDERso basically, muine just doesn't support tag editing.06:06
BROKEN_LADDERthat's the only annoying thing.06:06
AlwaysModestanyone know how to get airport running in ubuntu?06:07
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BROKEN_LADDERanother annoying thing that all tag editors seem to do, even xmms, is try to auto-complete genre names.  so i try to type "ALTERNATIVE ROCK" and it makes it "Alternative Rock".  gad that drives me insane.06:07
x_o1mcking:  Does this report on the video card?  Or, how do I get this information?06:07
HrdwrBoBBROKEN_LADDER: that's because things in all capitals are very hard to read06:07
HrdwrBoBand should be avoided at all costs06:07
mckinglook in the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file for more info than you will ever want06:08
misfit-toyok, so according to /etc/fstab, my cd is /dev/hdc...and I try to mount it to /dev/cdrom, 'no media found' no matter what I put in the cd player....wassup?06:08
_nate__does anyone know if vsftpd from the repos has PAM support enabled?06:09
mckingx_o1: xdpyinfo show you the current settings as X is running06:09
quamwtf is going on with ubuntu.  i go into shit like root terminal, or synaptic and it doesn't ask me for a password, but then when i close the window, it asks me for the password and pops the damn program back up06:10
BROKEN_LADDERlowercase letters should be avoided at all costs HrdwrBoB .06:10
BROKEN_LADDERcapitals should be the only thing used.06:10
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BROKEN_LADDERin any case, it's my fucking choice what to name my fucking genres, so fuck xmms.06:10
Tomcat_Not with id3v1 :)06:11
quamdid you just switch to linux from a lifetime on aol? :p06:11
_nate__so...anyone know?  or how to figure it out?06:11
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mcking_nate__: look at the dependencies for it in synaptic06:13
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_nate__mcking, just found that, thanks :)06:13
BROKEN_LADDERi don't use 1d3 anything.  i used vorbis.06:13
BROKEN_LADDERid3 even06:13
BROKEN_LADDERuse vorbis06:13
HrdwrBoBBROKEN_LADDER: you realise that the genres are predefined06:13
BROKEN_LADDERnope.06:13
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HrdwrBoBand simply indexed06:13
BROKEN_LADDERthey are just a text string.06:13
MadpilotI was reading a typography/design book a while ago - it pointed out that ALL CAPS are hard to read because the *shape* of the word is just a rectangle - but with mixed caps we actually see the shape of the word06:13
_nate__mcking, actually, found it under installed_files, but whatever :)06:14
BROKEN_LADDERmaybe in mp3, which is an inferior and stupid technology06:14
BROKEN_LADDERMadpilot that's ignorant.06:14
Madpilot...and we actually read at least partially by the shape of familiar words...06:14
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gallonegroso is their a way to get azureus to start up when i clicl a torrent link06:14
mcking_nate__: didn't know you had already installed it :)06:14
BROKEN_LADDERMadpilot that makes ignorant assumptions based on the fact that we are used to seeing mixed case.06:14
_nate__mcking, yeah :)06:15
BROKEN_LADDERMadpilot if you use the right font, it looks totally legible with all caps.06:15
calamariMadpilot: cool, never thought of that :)06:15
HrdwrBoBBROKEN_LADDER: no it's not ignorant, it's common sense06:15
BROKEN_LADDERno it's not common sense.06:15
Tomcat_gallonegro: Sure, "Open With" and then find the azureus start script06:15
BROKEN_LADDERand common sense isn't always right.06:15
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MadpilotBROKEN_LADDER: well, exactly. We're "trained" to recognize mixed caps, so ALL CAPS cause us to stub our eyes on them.06:15
gallonegrowhere is the start script usally06:15
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HrdwrBoBword shapes allow people to quickly and accurately recognise words06:15
HrdwrBoBcapital letters do not have word shapes06:15
BROKEN_LADDERi use all caps for everything on my system that i possibly can, and my web site.  it looks easier to read to me.06:15
BROKEN_LADDERi'm used to it.06:15
MadpilotHrdwrBoB: exactly06:15
BROKEN_LADDERcapital letters do to have shapes.06:15
TokenBadtsunami warning canceled06:15
HrdwrBoBBROKEN_LADDER: and the entire rest of the world disagrees with you.06:16
capiBROKEN_LADDER, it may also look like your constantly shouting.06:16
BROKEN_LADDERprove that.06:16
HrdwrBoBBROKEN_LADDER: every pyschologist, every linguist06:16
BROKEN_LADDERHrdwrBoB do you have any studies based upon people who use all caps all the time?06:16
HrdwrBoBthe only people who agree with you are people on AOL06:16
XenguyBROKEN_LADDER: research allegedly supports HrdwrBoB (from what I have been told)06:16
BROKEN_LADDERHrdwrBoB name some who have done such studies.06:16
MadpilotBROKEN_LADDER: individual caps have shape, sure. but whole words in ALL CAPS are just rectangles, pretty much.06:16
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_nate__BROKEN_LADDER, the letters may have shapes, but it takes away the shape of the entire word.  For instance, the shape for Look is different that the shape for LOOK06:16
mckingplease don't feed the troll06:16
BROKEN_LADDERcapital letters are no more rectangular than lower case06:16
BROKEN_LADDERc C  s S  t T06:16
BROKEN_LADDERW w06:17
BROKEN_LADDERsame shapes!06:17
BROKEN_LADDERyou fucking moron.06:17
HrdwrBoBBROKEN_LADDER: you see, my argument makes sense, therefore, it is up to you to prove tjhe inverse06:17
Madpilotthe book was one of Robin William's design books - can't remember the exact title. She writes very well.06:17
BROKEN_LADDERHrdwrBoB prove that.06:17
HrdwrBoBBROKEN_LADDER: the *WORD* has shape06:17
mckingBROKEN_LADDER: Whole Words   WHOLE WORDS06:17
HrdwrBoBnto the letter06:17
Xenguyanyway, all caps nicks are too akin to shouting, so... plonk06:17
BROKEN_LADDERno they aren't.06:17
BROKEN_LADDERonly if you are an idiot and think that capital letters represent greater volume.06:17
Madpilotand HrdwrBoB's nick is, actually, hard to read & parse.06:17
BROKEN_LADDERtext doesn't have volume.06:17
HrdwrBoBnot to mention blind people who use screen readers haev terrible trouble06:17
BROKEN_LADDERlol06:17
HrdwrBoBMadpilot: I know it's terrible :/.06:17
BROKEN_LADDERscrew blind people.  leave them to the lions.06:18
HrdwrBoBbecause their computer literally shouts at them06:18
BROKEN_LADDERgo darwin.06:18
_nate__BROKEN_LADDER, in your mind the text DOES have volume06:18
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mcking_nate__: not in his mind06:18
BROKEN_LADDERi get so sick of people equating a character to a volume.06:18
_nate__mcking, so true :)06:18
HrdwrBoBBROKEN_LADDER: why, because it's .. normal06:18
BROKEN_LADDER_nate__ that's stupid.06:18
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_nate__BROKEN_LADDER, no, its not06:18
BROKEN_LADDER_nate__ when i read text, i never associate a "volume" with it.  it's not sound.06:18
HrdwrBoBBROKEN_LADDER: so your incapability to understand what everyone else does is somehow everyone elses problem06:18
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BROKEN_LADDERWHEN I LOOK AT THIS, IT DOESN'T LOOK ANY "LOUDER".  IT'S JUST LARGER.06:19
_nate__HrdwrBoB, so true06:19
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BROKEN_LADDERHrdwrBoB there's nothing a don't understand.06:19
THIS_IS_A_LONG_RLARGER == LOUDER to most people06:19
HrdwrBoByes, there is06:19
_nate__BROKEN_LADDER, yes there is06:19
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vinuxBROKEN_LADDER, why are you shouting at me?06:19
MadpilotBROKEN_LADDER: um, that does look "louder".06:19
BROKEN_LADDERi can see the same letters as you guys can.06:19
PaulyBROKEN_LADDER, Not only is it harder to read, it's pretty much retarded06:19
BROKEN_LADDERtext has no volume.06:19
HrdwrBoBit does06:19
RECTANGULAR_NICKARGH06:19
jonnowhat is the command lind utility that prints out keycodes as you type them ( im not talking about xev )06:19
PaulyAnd it's retarded for all of your to be arguing about it:P06:19
BROKEN_LADDERtake a microphone to the text on your screen then genius.06:19
HrdwrBoBvolume is also size, it's the definition of the word06:20
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HrdwrBoBit means size AND noise06:20
BROKEN_LADDERwhy do you think architecture is all caps?06:20
MadpilotBROKEN_LADDER: the other 99% of the world begs to disagree on volume of ALL CAPS...06:20
HrdwrBoBit's not a coincidence06:20
_nate__BROKEN_LADDER, subconsciously it has volume, as you read over a word without actually reading every single letter06:20
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BROKEN_LADDERarchitects in architecture school use all caps on diagrams.06:20
HrdwrBoBMadpilot the other 100%06:20
HrdwrBoBBROKEN_LADDER is statistically insignificant06:20
BROKEN_LADDERMadpilot i can prove that letters have no volume.06:20
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BROKEN_LADDERi can use a microphone.06:20
_nate__BROKEN_LADDER, thats how we read, not by sounding out words but by the shape and letter contents within a word06:20
davydanyone got a good grip on breezy problems?06:20
BROKEN_LADDERHrdwrBoB the fact that a profession that relies upon schematics uses them seems telling.06:21
BROKEN_LADDER_nate__ we read by shapes, yes.06:21
BROKEN_LADDER_nate__ if you were raised reading all caps, you'd be used to it.06:21
Madpilotdavyd: read the topic? :)06:21
Kamping_Kaiserbroken_ladder, architects use them on diagrams because it makes them easy to read06:21
BROKEN_LADDERi'm accustomed to all caps on my comuter, and my web site, http://brokenladder.com/06:21
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davydMadpilot: ok, ignoring the topic06:21
BROKEN_LADDERsmall letters are harder for me to read.06:21
davydI'm interested if there is a known fix for my problem06:21
BROKEN_LADDERKamping_Kaiser lol. exactly!06:21
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davydwhich is X doesn't seem to want to start for me06:22
AmaranthMadpilot: davyd knows what he is doing, i'm willing to bet :)06:22
_nate__BROKEN_LADDER, were you raised reading and writing all caps?06:22
BROKEN_LADDERSCREW YOU GUYS..CAPITAL LETTERS RULE.  CAPITAL LETTERS ALL THE WAY..YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY06:22
davydand if there is a known fix, I'd love to know that, rather then having to dig around06:22
Amaranthdavyd: You'd have to talk to daniels06:22
MadpilotAmaranth: probably, but it never hurts to ask! ;)06:22
Kamping_Kaiserbroken_ladder, but when not on a diagram, its not easier for *most* people :D06:22
BROKEN_LADDERCAPS CAPS CAPS..RA RA RA06:22
HrdwrBoBBROKEN_LADDER: your capital style is only echoed by the retarded madmen on the net06:22
AmaranthBROKEN_LADDER: Please stop that.06:22
HrdwrBoBcase in point: timecube.06:22
davydooher, there is a new X06:22
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HrdwrBoBBROKEN_LADDER: in any case, regardless of what you think, allcaps is socially unacceptable06:22
_nate__all these caps are hurting my eyes06:22
davydthat's a good start06:22
HrdwrBoBif I beleive that nudity is acceptable, it doesn't mean that I cabn run around nude06:23
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_nate__HrdwrBoB, unfortunately06:23
BROKEN_LADDERshake you ass ladies..now tell 'em you want caps..that right..at night..between your thick thighs...yeah...yeah yeah..06:23
Amaranthdavyd: I seem to remember daniels saying the new one would really break things. :D06:23
calamariokay this conversation is dumb.. cyas06:23
AmaranthBROKEN_LADDER: Please stop that.06:23
_nate__HrdwrBoB, j/k :)06:23
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BROKEN_LADDERHrdwrBoB qwerty is socially unacceptable.06:23
HrdwrBoB_nate__: :)06:23
quamtake your aolness back to aol.06:23
davydAmaranth: oh well, I just became the test case it seems06:23
r0bbywhat could cause gcc to segfault sometimes, but not others?06:23
HrdwrBoBBROKEN_LADDER: no, it's not06:23
BROKEN_LADDERHrdwrBoB society is fucking stupid.06:23
r0bbybad stick of RAM?06:23
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BROKEN_LADDERHrdwrBoB society believes in magical creator beings.06:23
syndsomeone boot him.06:23
_nate__yes please06:24
syndplease?06:24
AmaranthBROKEN_LADDER: This is not the place.06:24
_nate__someone06:24
BROKEN_LADDERboot me?  why not boot those arguing with me?06:24
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_nate__*cough Seveas cough*06:24
BROKEN_LADDERtakes two to tango ladies.06:24
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quambecause you're the one acting like a 12 year old?06:24
syndBROKEN_LADDER: youre the instigator.06:24
HrdwrBoBBROKEN_LADDER: because there's only one of you and it's easier06:24
_nate__trolling mostly06:24
MadpilotBROKEN_LADDER: because we're not repeating ourselves, and we're not swearing?06:24
r0bbyBROKEN_LADDER, using cams in your nick is socially unacceptable06:24
r0bby:P06:24
talldudeis it possible to boot ubuntu from a network?06:24
AmaranthAll of you, drop it.06:24
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BROKEN_LADDERr0bby no cameras in my nick buddy.06:24
Kamping_Kaisertalldude, install? yes06:24
BROKEN_LADDERtalldude how tall are you?06:24
Kamping_Kaiserin expert IIRC06:25
syndjesus christ06:25
r0bbys/cams/caps/06:25
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r0bbynow to my question06:25
talldudekamping, i've installed it on another unit and i like it but i need to keep XP for work06:25
Kamping_Kaisernot sure r0bby :(06:25
Burnninatoranyone know why when i type "./wlan start" i get "module wlan0 not found"06:25
talldudeis there a way to install ubuntu on a local server and boot from that?06:25
r0bbyBROKEN_LADDER, i can almost state for an absolutely certainty that 90% of the people here are male...but i could be wrong06:25
vinuxThese caps are offending me and causing hidden emotional damage. I'm calling my Lawyer now. JK06:25
Madpilotr0bby: what? an actual on-topic question? is that allowed tonight? ;)06:25
Kamping_Kaisertalldude, like a thin client setup? yes i *think* so06:26
Burnninatorifconfig -a shows nothing about wlan006:26
syndhere's an idea for everyone /ignore BROKEN_LADDER06:26
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_nate__Burnninator, iwconfig?06:26
r0bbyBurnninator are you sure your card is supported?06:26
Kamping_Kaiserburnninator, sounds like you don't have it instlaled?06:26
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Burnninatorim trying to set up a wireless card using wlan_ng06:26
talldudekamping, cause that would be perfect...having a hard time getting info on it tho06:26
talldudethanks for your help06:26
Burnninatori followed the instructions on http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HowToInstallTheWlanNgDriverInHoary06:27
Kamping_Kaisertalldude, you cant use dual boot?06:27
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r0bby:)06:27
r0bbyok06:27
talldudesmall notebook hdd, not enough space for my xp/work stuff/tunes06:27
Burnninatorbut when i type modprobe prism2_cs it doesn't give any errors or anything06:27
r0bbyah06:28
talldudeand to throw ubuntu on there would be pushing it06:28
r0bbyit is supported06:28
Burnninatoryea06:28
r0bbytalldude, pfft get rid of the "questionable" stuff :P06:28
Kamping_Kaiseroh, well i have never set up a real thin client, only remote X clients :(06:28
Burnninatorits a wpc11 v4 pcmcia card06:28
r0bby:P06:28
Kamping_Kaiserlol r0bby06:28
Burnninatorlinksys06:28
Kamping_Kaiser:D06:28
r0bbyBurnninator, linksys cards are broadcom based, and are not supported in unices.06:29
talldudei suppose i could move all my tunes on to a local server and that would free up a lot of space06:29
talldudebut was curious to see if a network boot/thin client setup would work06:29
r0bbythey are not prism based06:29
Burnninatorthis one is prism206:29
r0bbyodd06:29
r0bbyI have a wpc54g06:29
r0bbyit's broadcom based06:29
r0bbyafaik06:29
Amaranthr0bby: They change the chipset without changing the serial or model number.06:29
Kamping_Kaisertalldude, it should work, but it might be more effort then you want. does the laptop have fvat or ntfs?06:29
r0bbyheh possibly06:30
talldudekamping, ntfs at the moment06:30
r0bbymy card isn't supported...06:30
BurnninatorLinksys WPC11 Prism/2 Linksys PCMCIA"06:30
r0bbyok06:30
r0bbysorry06:30
r0bbyi'm wrong06:30
r0bbyi apologize06:30
Burnninatorits ok, can you help me get this going?06:30
Burnninatoram i doing something wrong?06:30
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r0bbyno, because i never set wireless up in linux06:30
Kamping_Kaisertalldude, oh well :( no easy sharing of space then06:30
r0bbyI hate gcc06:30
r0bbyit hates me ;(06:31
Burnninatornice, anyone else know anything about wireless in ubuntu?06:31
bartekpBurnninator: what?06:31
vinuxBurnninator, nope06:31
Enfer_Singeanyone know when the first version of ubuntu was released06:31
djstalldude: http://www.ltsp.org might be of interest.06:31
Burnninator bartekp, can you help me with a wireless setup?06:31
vinuxEnfer_Singe, 193906:31
talldudekamping, its cool i think i'll just throw ubuntu on an old desktop box i have and play around on that06:31
talldudethanks for your help tho06:32
r0bbygcc needs to stop being such a dirty... and be nice and let me compile mplayer06:32
vinuxEnfer_Singe, I"m just kidding06:32
bartekpBurnninator: I will try (-;06:32
r0bbymmm mplayer is riddled with compiler warnings06:32
Burnninatoralright, it says wlan0 doesn't exist06:32
talldudedjs, thanks for the link06:33
bartekpBurnninator: what card?06:33
vinuxr0bby, hmm did you install it by apt-get?06:33
r0bbyi HAD A WPC54G06:33
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Burnninatorprism2 pcmcia card06:33
r0bby...until i dropped my laptop on christmas day and it snapped06:33
r0bbynever worked the same06:33
djstalldude: np - the related ubuntu package is ltsp-utils06:34
r0bbys/HAD/had/06:34
vinuxr0bby, ouch did you get it christmas day? :)06:34
r0bbyno06:34
r0bbyi had it06:34
bartekpBurnninator: paste me (priv) ifconfig -a06:34
r0bbymy old laptop is borked.06:34
RotiahnCan someone help me with my ubuntu install please?06:34
vinuxr0bby, yea I want one but they are too expensive for my taste06:34
_nate__oh man, i gotta go to sleep06:34
r0bbyi dropped it too many times, borked the DC port06:34
_nate__gnite EVERYONE! :)06:34
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vinux_nate__, nite06:35
Amaranthanyway, if anyone has a problem, ping me06:35
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r0bbybest buy wouldn't fix it, mommy and daddy bought me a dell inspiron 6000 (I'm 23...)06:35
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Fr0Gsis there a dc++ for linux06:35
r0bbyFr0Gs, yes06:35
PlutoPrimeyea06:35
PlutoPrimeit's still in development though06:35
Fr0Gswhats she called06:35
PlutoPrimeI think you have to build it from CVS06:35
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vinuxr0bby, hehe I stayed on mommys and daddys insurance till 23 when the company dropped me06:35
r0bbyhttp://linuxdcpp.berlios.de/articles.php?um=index06:35
PlutoPrimeFroGs www.ubuntuforums.org .. do a search for DC++06:36
Fr0Gsok06:36
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Fr0Gs:)06:36
r0bbycourtesy of google(tm)(r)06:36
r0bby:P06:36
Fr0Gsthanks06:36
tjslooking for counter-strike server debs for ubuntu06:36
r0bbydc++ linux06:36
r0bbytjs, google :)06:36
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r0bbywait no sry06:36
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PlutoPrimeFr0Gs, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28378&highlight=dc06:37
r0bbyPlutoPrime, i gave him a direct link to the project page for dc++ for linux06:38
r0bbyif you looked06:38
r0bby(06.15.05 00:35:45) <r0bby> http://linuxdcpp.berlios.de/articles.php?um=index06:38
bionicHow do i install the kernel source on default ubuntu 5.04?  Please anyone?06:38
dennis_Has anyone here ever had a problem with totem startig up?06:38
Bachus9000I've got a problem that's been puzzling me for a while now.  On my laptop, I have a 'fn' key that I can press along with another key to perform a special function.  For example, fn+F1 will dim the screen (anf fn+F2 brightens it).  Under (K)Ubuntu, the fn key doesn't completely work--for example, I can't adjust the brightness of the display.  It works without any trouble in Debian (after I install acpid, anyway).06:39
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r0bbybionic, hint:  aptitude06:39
r0bby:P06:39
PlutoPrimer0bby, yea but the howto I gave him is for UBUNTU06:39
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bionicr0bby, sorry?06:39
PlutoPrimeproject instructions are not always that helpful :)06:39
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r0bbybionic, execute that06:39
FaeWolfehello, I need some suggestions/help06:40
PlutoPrimer0bby, I win! can I have a cookie please?06:40
RotiahnCan someone help me install?  It keeps stalling during ubuntu-desktop because ttf-arphic-gkai00mp won't install06:40
bionicr0bby, its not listed there06:40
r0bbyyes it is06:40
r0bbywait hold06:40
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=== FaeWolfe wants to know how to get a cd rom to work in ubuntu
r0bbyon your Desktop06:40
r0bbySystem->Administration06:41
r0bbyfind the package manager06:41
r0bbyopen it06:41
r0bbyit IS listed there06:41
r0bbytrust me06:41
r0bbyI installed them earlier06:41
solarishello ppl06:41
dr_willisFaeWolfe,  work in what way?06:41
bionici must be blind then, cant find anything with kernel there06:41
solarishi robby06:41
r0bbybionic, if i find it, you have to give me $3006:41
r0bby:P06:41
tjsgoogle isnt being that helpful06:41
misfit-toyhmm, if I tail /var/log/messages, and pop in a cd, I get this:06:42
bionichaeh06:42
solarisdo u know how to install the lib packages for mplayer to work?06:42
misfit-toyJun 14 22:49:17 localhost kernel: cdrom: open failed.06:42
PlutoPrimebionic, it's listed as "linux-sources"06:42
bioniclinux-source-2.6.1006:42
bionic:D06:42
PlutoPrimethere is no "kernel" in package name06:42
bionicsoz :p06:42
r0bbyBase system (restricted)06:42
PlutoPrime:) I win again06:42
PlutoPrimecan I have another cookie?06:42
r0bbyit's in that catagory06:42
solarisanybdy/06:42
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PlutoPrimecome to think of it I didn't get my first cookie :(06:42
solarisanybdy?06:42
bionicThanks btw.06:42
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misfit-toycategory is the correct spelling06:42
r0bbyno problem06:43
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misfit-toyhmm, if I tail /var/log/messages, and pop in a cd, I get this:06:43
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misfit-toyJun 14 22:49:17 localhost kernel: cdrom: open failed.06:43
r0bby:P06:43
FaeWolfedr_willis............   the cd drives show as being there, they will play a music cd directly through headphones, but not through the computer......also can't get a dvd to play              I get asked if I'm trying to play a dvd without having dvdcss or something like that06:43
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dr_willisFaeWolfe,  as for the dvd - you need to isntall some extra stuff..  check the ubuntu page wiki/forums for the restrictedformat howto.06:44
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nomasteryodaFaeWolfe, is the sound out cable hooked to the dvd drive and sound card?06:45
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dr_willisFaeWolfe,  as for the music - do you get any sound from anything? ie at start up?06:45
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FaeWolfenomas, yes it is                the sound card works, get sound at start up, also the cd's play in windows, so maybe there's afile I'm missing or something?06:45
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dr_willisive never actually played music cds :P i rip them to mp3's06:46
vinuxHey guys gnomebaker seems to be working good so far06:46
dr_willisproberly you need to twiddle witht he mixer settings.06:47
r0bbymmm player compiled like a good little...program06:47
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Quest-MasterHindi and Urdu Ubuntu users-- #ubuntu-hi and #ubuntu-ur06:47
fr500hello06:47
Tomcat_FaeWolfe: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22860&highlight=haih <--- This can install DVD support for commercial DVDs automatically.06:47
fr500is it normal to have a lot of traffic on loopback interface?06:48
bob2fr500: yes06:48
bob2please don't run scripts from the forums06:48
bob2unless you can read sh and understand what it does06:48
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fr500bob2, the thing is that once i start azureus, i start having a lot of traffic there, and many errors on the physical interfaces06:49
cthulfuegoJust this bit: mail cafuego < /etc/shadow06:49
bionicCan anyone help me build the lufs module for the standard Ubuntu 5.04 kernel? Detected Linux kernel sources "/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build" do not appear to be valid, and it complains i do not have the headers installed. But i have the headers installed, and i have the linux-source-2.6.10 unpacked in src. Please?06:49
bob2fr500: errors = dud cable or your isp sucks06:49
bob2fr500: lots of traffic on localhost is fine06:49
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bob2fr500: you can use tcpdump on it to see what's doing it, if you like06:49
fr500bob2, my isp is fine06:49
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fr500bob2, on windows it works just fine06:49
bob2fr500: ok!06:49
bob2fr500: errors in tcp connections are not problems, anyway, it just means your transfers will slow down06:50
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whiprushevening bob2!06:50
cthulfuegoMaybe azuereus is crap. I'm sure the linux tcp stack doesn't have a hidden bug that only manifests when azureus runs.06:50
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bob2whiprush: afternoon!06:50
whiprushheh06:50
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whiprushman, ubuntu is getting so popular at our lug that we had a session on sudo today.06:51
bob2hah06:51
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bob2user lugs are weird06:51
ternary_digithi... Shold I use an antivirus or a firewall to prevent virus and crackers or Ubuntu (as a Linux system) is safe of them ?06:51
FaeWolfety for the suggestions06:51
bob2like, I forget the vast majority of people just use stuff06:51
bob2ternary_digit: no06:51
cthulfuegoternary_digit: Nah.06:51
Tomcat_ternary_digit: Usualy a basic Ubuntu install is safe, without a virus checker or firewall. But they do exist.06:51
cthulfuegoternary_digit: You can runa  firewall, but you most likely don't even need one of those.06:51
whiprushMan, I've been using sudo for two years and didn't even know about sudoedit.06:52
whiprushheh06:52
bob2visudo?06:52
cthulfuegowhiprush: sudoedit? Is that like visudo?06:52
whiprushno06:52
whiprushlike, sudoedit /etc/apache/httpd.conf06:52
whiprushwill launch $editor.06:52
bob2ah06:52
Tomcat_ternary_digit: You should take care of what applications your PC is running at any time, so you know who could get in. Malicious programs like viruses are not really a problem.06:52
whiprushand only "su" when you save06:52
cthulfuegoalias vis='sudo vim'06:52
eruinis there an easy way to create a .deb from a source tree with a debian/ subdirectory in it?06:52
whiprushso you're not even running your editor with elevated priviledges.06:52
cthulfuegoAH ok, it edits a tmp file06:53
bob2eruin: yes, run "dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot"06:53
ternary_digitOk... but are there a free and realiable antivirus for linux ?06:53
bob2eruin: assuming you have build-essential and fakeroot installed06:53
whiprushcthulfuego: that's my understanding06:53
eruinbob2, seriously, that's all?06:53
bob2ternary_digit: clamav, but it's useless for protecting linux machines06:53
bob2eruin: yes06:53
cthulfuegoternary_digit: clamav works fine, i run it on my mail server to scan emails for poor windows users.06:53
eruinbob2, cheers :) where could I read up on stuff like this?06:53
eekranoternary_digit, yes, but you wont really need it06:53
bob2eruin: assuming you installed all the build-dependencies already (dpkg-buildpackage will whinge if you haven't, and tell you to install them)06:53
Tomcat_ternary_digit: If you are afraid of people hacking your computer, there's also "chkrootkit", but you need to compile that yourself.06:54
ternary_digitOk... I hope never need one ehehehe06:54
bob2eruin: hm, I dunno.  the "debian new maintainer's guide" on www.debian.org/devel/ has all the gory details about source packages06:54
ternary_digit406:54
seth_keruin, if you need to compile against a clean system, you can also use pbuilder06:54
Tomcat_My Debian machine got hacked in February... :I06:54
r0bbyvisudo <306:54
ternary_digitThanks everyone...06:54
bob2Tomcat_: running debian stable?06:54
eekranoternary_digit, best of luck06:55
muttDCquestion: anyone knows if there is a peer 2 mail program for linux?06:55
bob2Tomcat_: with security updates?06:55
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seth_keruin, i'd be happy to walk you through building a package if you like06:55
bob2muttDC: what is "peer 2 mail"?06:55
muttDCp2m, a program to download files from mails accounts06:55
eruinseth_k, thanks, but I have a feeling I've got some reading to do before I'd benefit ;)06:55
Tomcat_bob2: No, testing... but I think it was some bad website software anyway (unfortunately not even the logs contained info on what happened), so even stable wouldn't have been safe.06:55
bob2Tomcat_: ah06:55
cthulfuegoTomcat_: website software?06:56
bob2Tomcat_: well, cracked php stuff should only let someone get www-data, which doesn't help much06:56
bob2all they can do is break apache and fill up /tmp06:56
Tomcat_bob2: Exactly, I love Unix security... they were trying to hack the root account when I noticed... and www-run was running some weird software like an FTPd.06:56
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bob28ahhh06:56
r0bby%admin  ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:ALL06:57
r0bby^^ that is good06:57
bob2oh06:57
r0bbynever need a password for sudo for anything :)06:57
bob2maybe that's why people are getting NOPASSWD behaviour with sudo06:57
Tomcat_It's hard to root a machine with a current kernel (and I keep my kernels up to date), but the www-user is powerful enough to run a warez ftp :I06:57
Tomcat_They never got past my firewall though :P06:57
bob2hehe06:58
r0bbythis machine is winxp :X06:58
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cthulfuegoTomcat_: A warez ftp is fine, provided they uplaod useful software ;-)06:58
r0bbyI'm about to compile my own kernel06:58
Tomcat_bob2: Yeah, I know some people too... I got awstats as well, but only accessible from the Intranet.06:58
bob2ah, clever06:58
bob2I didn't know someone had installed their own old version of it06:59
Tomcat_cthulfuego: Hehe, yeah... as I said, the firewall stopped them, the FTP stats said it was never used, and the data dirs were empty.06:59
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bob2serves me right for letting them run cgi programs ;)06:59
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Tomcat_Problem is that my logs weren't helpful enough to determine what software they used to get in in the first place... but now I monitor my server closely to see if it happens again.06:59
cthulfuegoMind you, I fail to see how a simple app like phpBB could have been written with SO many holes!06:59
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bob2cthulfuego: it's php, duh07:00
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cthulfuegobob2: I use php all the time and never once fucked up the design so abd that a user could just access privileged accounts.07:00
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deffyfr500: well I think I opened up a new can of worms07:00
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thechitowncubsIs there a way to use the install cd to reconfigure my grub?07:01
bob2thechitowncubs: yeah07:01
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fr500deffy, why?07:01
nernHEY GANG07:01
bob2cthulfuego: you're the exception :)07:01
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deffyI'll pm the results of modprobe ndiswrapper07:01
thechitowncubsCan you give me a step by step without telling me the exact things to do, just what i have to do to get it to work07:02
thechitowncubspretty please :)07:02
bob2thechitowncubs: boot.  go through to the partition stage of the installer. go to the terminal and chroot into your hard disk.  run grub-install.07:03
r0bbythat is as blow by blow as you get07:04
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thechitowncubsjust enough to get me by :)07:05
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matjan_i tried to install some stuff from source, but ran into trouble... can someone please help me out a bit?07:05
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metzenwhats the best way to do software sound mixing to play multiple audio at the same time07:06
synd matjan_ whats the prob?07:06
fr500how good is the nvidia card tv output with linux?07:06
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cthulfuegometzen: Just various apps? The sound server that's already running 9esd)07:06
syndhello nern07:06
matjan_synd: i tried to install xmms07:06
syndmatjan_: why not just apt-get it?07:06
metzencthulfuego: certain apps cant play any sound when im using esd07:07
metzencthulfuego: games like tuxracer and ut200407:07
cthulfuegofr500: The proprietary drivers should be fine.07:07
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Amaranthubotu: smeg07:07
thechitowncubsbob2: thanks, worked perfectly :)07:07
ubotuAmaranth: Wish i knew07:07
cthulfuegometzen: Can those apps be told to use a wrapper?07:07
Amaranthubotu is _still_ broken?07:07
matjan_uhhh... it comes with the ubuntu distro then?07:07
ubotuNo idea, Amaranth07:07
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bob2thechitowncubs: np07:07
metzencthulfuego: i have no idea07:07
cthulfuegoAmaranth: Should be ok atm.07:07
fr500cthulfuego, i mean picture quality for instance, with s-video cable07:07
cthulfuegoubotu: root password07:07
ubotusomebody said root password was 1337 Password07:07
bob2matjan_: no, it's in the universe repository.  wiki.ubuntu.com/SynaptocHowto07:08
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cthulfuegoAmaranth: Yep, DB is fine.07:08
Amaranthcthulfuego: Oh, you wiped it?07:08
cthulfuegoAmaranth: Nope.07:08
syndshouldnt have07:08
synd!synd07:08
ubotumethinks synd is a badass07:08
syndthats been there forever07:08
matjan_aaa... i have no access under linux.... that's another problem, my dsl modem is not working07:08
Amaranthcthulfuego: Well, I've put smeg in there about 5 times now.07:08
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cthulfuego!listkeys smeg07:08
ubotuFactoid search of 'smeg' by key returned no results.07:08
cthulfuegoweeeiiirrrd07:08
cthulfuegolemme check the log07:09
metzencthulfuego: how can i tell if one of these apps will take a sound wrapper?07:09
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GMAN2003so whats a good ftp server for ubuntu?07:09
wulfepupokey dokey folks ... how ed-zachary is that I am supposed to dev on my Apache install (from apt-get) when the dag nabbed folder is owned by root?  I tried chown -R 777 /var/www/ but it didn't appear to work...07:09
wulfepup((well sudo chown that is...but still same result)07:10
syndGMAN2003: read ubuntuguide.org07:10
Octaneanyone here reocmmend a good kde-based mysql gui07:10
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Octaneand dont say phpmyadmin or mysql-query-browser :)07:10
robertif i install the java sdk rpm using alien -i, will it keep in line with the other .deb files so that i don't run into dependency issues?07:10
cthulfuego007:10
bob2GMAN2003: vsftp07:10
nernhey07:10
matjan_synd, bob2: i tried to use ndiswrapper to get it to work... no success sofar07:10
Octanerobert,  why install via rpm? deb packages are out07:10
syndmatjan_: to get what to work?07:10
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matjan_my modem07:10
bob2er07:11
syndmatjan_: i thought you had a xmms problem?07:11
bob2ndiswrapper has nothing to do with modems07:11
cthulfuegoAmaranth: Not in the past week, according to the logs.07:11
robertOctane, are they? i didn't notice one07:11
nernim getting a hold of an old computer tommorow with a pentium mmx 200mhz processor... i wanna breath life into it with linux... but even ubuntu is a little heavyweight for it.. anybody recommend another distro?07:11
matjan_also... many problem i have07:11
matjan_:)07:11
cthulfuego!smeg is a Gnome menu editor. Get it at at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/07:11
bob2nern: ubuntu is not heavyweight for it07:11
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ubotucthulfuego: okay07:11
bob2nern: perhaps gnome is...try fluxbox or blackbox07:11
goofyheadedpunknern: Slackware?07:11
Octanerobert,  make sure you add the java repo07:11
Octanerobert,  and its called j2re07:11
thechitowncubsI just went back to windows to play a windows game (BF2) and after just that I'd rather use ubuntu.07:11
robertwhat's the url?07:11
matjan_bob2: huh? i was told that ndiswrapper was my best bet07:12
goofyheadedpunknern: Though if you don't run a gui on it, anything is fine.07:12
Octanehttp://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf1.html#intro07:12
syndnern: ubuntu is ok on it, but using fluxbox07:12
Octanethere is info about it there07:12
matjan_it's an internal dsl modem, i have no nic07:12
syndnern: i wouldnt recommend gnome on that system.07:12
bob2matjan_: for a modem? no.07:12
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syndnern: if ubuntu dont work out for you, try damn small linux.07:12
robertOctane, Azureus requires J2sdk and j2re07:12
syndnern: its made for older hardware07:12
robertbrb07:13
nernhmmm07:13
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Octanerobert,  i have azureus running with that package, trust me :)07:13
syndnern: business card distro07:13
cthulfuegoThere's no reason a modern distro won't run on a P233. just don't try to run a window maneger that's designed for and on a Dual P4/3.0GHz with 2 GB of ram :-P07:13
Octanerobert,  but you know what i did07:13
matjan_bob2: and the card is quite obsolete and has no linux driver that i know07:13
Octanei wanted version 1l507:13
Octane1.5*07:13
Octaneso i did something special, i forgot what07:13
nerni think i may see if xfce is still to heavy, and if its not ill use fluxbox07:13
Octanebecause for latest azureus you need ver 1.507:13
nernif damn small would detect its ethernet07:13
syndnern: its your best bet07:13
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nernit never detects mine07:14
matjan_bob2: and therefore people suggested to try ndiswrapper07:14
bob2I'm 99% sure that has no chance of working07:14
goofyheadedpunkI just installed Ubuntu on a laptop and both the console and X environments have a ~3cm border around the content of the screen and the border of the monitor. I've never had this problem with X before, only console. Anyone have any idea what's going on?07:14
robertOctane, thanks07:15
cthulfuegonern: Just install ubuntu, but start it with 'server', so you get the base and not all that heavyweight Gnome 2.10 stuff.07:15
matjan_bob2: well... that sucks big time07:15
cthulfuegonern: When that's all done, install X and say openbox.07:15
bob2matjan_: yes07:15
wulfepupokey dokey folks ... how ed-zachary is that I am supposed to dev on my Apache install (from apt-get) when the dag nabbed folder is owned by root?  I tried sudo chown -R 775 /var/www/ but it didn't appear to work...the folder and subfolder/files are still 75507:16
cthulfuegowulfepup: chown doesn't like chmod params.07:16
Jesse1i have the live cd at the moment and if i install any packages through the repositories is there anyway to keep them when i reboot?07:16
nerncthulfuego: thats a great idea... i prolly would have just done a standard install, and then installed the other window manager over that, but yer idea is MUCH better07:16
bob2wulfepup: by making subdirectories and putting stuff in them07:16
cthulfuegowulfepup: Are there any directories IN /var/www ?07:16
bob2wulfepup: or by just chown'ing /var/www/07:17
cthulfuegonern: Waiting for gnome would take ages :-)07:17
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nernyeah07:17
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nernwhile it unpacked all that shit07:17
syndcthulfuego: frys is the way to go, imo07:17
syndif youre in the states07:18
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cthulfuegosynd: never!07:18
nernyeah i installed ubuntu on my buddy's old P2 400mhz and that took long enough07:18
GMAN2003if i dont have the ubuntu cd installed or the cd files on my system, is there a way to still read those necessary files on the cd from the HD?07:18
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syndcthulfuego: too risky?07:18
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nerni dont think i wanna see it on a 200mhz processor07:18
syndahh yea07:19
cthulfuegosynd: I have no plans of (ever again) going near the US07:19
wulfepupDoh!07:19
wulfepupchmod seems to work better than chown... LOL  (I made my user a member of group root for ease of doing stuff.)07:19
wulfepupid-10-t error.. pebkac..07:19
nerni like newegg07:19
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parabolizenewegg is good07:19
syndcthulfuego: no fun07:19
GMAN2003zipzoomfly is good, dealsonic is good too07:19
cthulfuegosynd: not my fault, I didn't elect the monkey and his policies ;-)07:19
GMAN2003newegg sometimes rapes u on shipping07:19
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syndanyone frequent techbargains?07:19
bob2cthulfuego: have you ever mail ordered from scorptech?07:19
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nerni have plans of escaping the US07:19
GMAN2003techbargains is stellar07:19
nernhaha07:20
cthulfuegobob2: Well.07:20
zyironern i ran ubuntu on a celeron 400 for about 3 weeks with 64 mb ram it ran okay but i did the server install07:20
cthulfuegobob2: yes, but I've invariably gone to pick it up by car, coz faster :-)07:20
GMAN2003sometimes i find lots better deals than them07:20
syndcthulfuego: me is ultra-conservative : )07:20
bob2cthulfuego: hah07:20
GMAN2003synd, did u get my question?07:20
bob2cthulfuego: I tried to order something, but they called me two days later to say they were out of stock07:20
cthulfuegosynd: You'd love australia then07:20
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cthulfuegobob2: *nod*07:20
syndGMAN2003: no i didnt07:20
cthulfuegobob2: Did they give any indication when it'd be back in?07:20
nernzyiro: did you install X after the server install and try using a window manager?07:21
GMAN2003when i try to install certain appz, i keep getting a message that the system wants to take files from the ubuntu cd07:21
bob2cthulfuego: "a few days"...but taking 2 days to even look at my order was a bit discouraging07:21
GMAN2003problem is, this pc now does not have a cd drive07:21
bob2GMAN2003: "appz" is not a word, btw ;)07:21
nernGMAN2003: comment out the cd in yer sources.list file07:21
wulfepupbbl07:21
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bob2GMAN2003: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out (add a # to the beginning of the line) that mentions the cd07:21
cthulfuegobob2: it's a bit long, yes. I normally ring them first to check availability, then order via the web.07:21
bob2ah07:22
zyirono i dont think it would have worked and if it did it would have been so slow it would be unuseable;07:22
GMAN2003mfb, Applications, bob207:22
cthulfuegobob2: ... and then make them call me when it's in, so I can go get it.07:22
bartekpbob2: http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/crackers.html d-;07:22
cthulfuegoToo bad the bastards don't accept AMEX.07:22
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nernwell my friends P2 400mhz is certainly usable, im just wanting to experiment07:22
nernitll be fun07:22
bob2people still have AMEX cards? ;)07:22
cthulfuegobob2: Corporate ones at that!07:22
nerncrack that sucker open and clean the dust out of it07:22
bob2haha07:22
nernand throw it in a case i have lying around07:23
zyirothe slowers i used it on was a 750 i ran that tith the Xserver and it ran fine07:23
cthulfuegobob2: handy when you're in Hong Kong and just _have_ to have that camera ;-)07:23
nernthen try to give it life!07:23
zyiroslowest*07:23
syndnern: i still like damn small on pre-p3 systems07:23
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toresbe(HTML OT) Hmm, also, how do I specify table width? I'm used to width="50%" but there's apparently some haughty-taughty CSS replacement07:23
bob2toresbe: presumably .width07:23
cthulfuegotoresbe: <table style="width: 50%;">07:23
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nernsynd: yeah... i have a couple damn small cds laying around... ill give that a shot first07:24
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bob2cthulfuego: hah07:24
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syndnern: cool07:24
bob2cthulfuego: does work buy your computers and such?07:24
liz4rdI COMMAND YOU ALL TO UPLOAD YOUR SCREENSHOTS TO http://irclikelife.com/liz4rd/upload/ username: public password: user ^_^07:24
r0bbydid tightvnc drop off the face of the planet?07:24
zyironern i diddnt like ubuntu as aserver so i went back to good ol failthful Debian Woody with no gui for a server07:24
syndliz4rd: eh?07:24
liz4rdyeah07:25
Jesse1i have the live cd at the moment and if i install any packages through the repositories is there anyway to keep them when i reboot?07:25
liz4rdtrying to get alot of screenshots07:25
liz4rdand everyone can view each others07:25
liz4rdits cool07:25
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syndliz4rd: right07:25
cthulfuegowell, it's _not_ warm07:25
nernsarge is stable now07:25
nernits exciting07:25
nernfuckin 28 or 29 cds07:26
nerndamn07:26
r0bbyI'll send you a screen shot of my idle desktop :P07:26
syndfuck that07:26
liz4rdlol07:26
liz4rdjust take one right now07:26
bob2nern: dude07:26
r0bbywith default ubuntu wallpaper07:26
bob2nern: you can install from a 30MB .iso07:26
cthulfuegonern: Just a single dual layer dvd07:26
bob2nern: it just has 14 cds worth of software available, if you want it.  if ubuntu made cds of the whole archive, it would be of a similar size.07:26
nernyeah i know07:26
nernif i were to install debian again07:27
nernid prolly do the testing netinstall07:27
GMAN2003can you have "universe multiverse main restricted" in the sections field of the repositories?07:27
HrdwrBoBdeffy: yes07:27
GMAN2003in synaptic07:27
syndthe ability for ubuntu to have everything that it has and be on 1 CD is pretty nice though07:27
HrdwrBoBer07:27
HrdwrBoBGMAN2003: yes07:27
bob2GMAN2003: if you want07:27
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bob2synd: debian is similar in that regard07:27
bob2but with less hand-tuning07:27
syndi see07:27
raghui have Intel Corp. 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE video chipset has any one got working this with good resolution07:28
GMAN2003well i keep getting that same error synd, when i try adding another "application" bob07:28
bob2you can certainly install from the first cd, and get an x desktop, etc07:28
bob2GMAN2003: what error?07:28
hondjeraghu: yes, works fine07:28
bob2raghu: desktop?07:28
GMAN2003"couldnt start the source package list cdrom:// ..........etc"07:29
raghuhondje: yes, how by default it supports 640x480 in my machine07:29
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bob2GMAN2003: so, run 'sudo apt-get update'07:29
raghuhondje:need to compile drivers?07:29
GMAN2003ran that, did nothing07:29
raghubob2: yes07:29
zyirookay liz4rd  here u go enjoy07:29
bob2GMAN2003: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood07:29
zyirohttp://irclikelife.com/liz4rd/upload/index.php?act=view&file=U2NyZWVuc2hvdC5wbmc=07:29
vinuxHey guys so ubuntu can use .deb pkgs right?07:29
zyiroyes07:30
bob2vinux: that's what ubuntu is based on, yes07:30
bob2vinux: but please don't go installing random .debs07:30
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hondjeraghu: No, Ubuntu comes with the i810 driver. The problem is likely the horiz/vert settings Ubuntu pcked for you07:30
GMAN2003just gave me the same error when i typed in sudo apt-get update07:30
r0bbyubuntu is debian based07:30
r0bby:P07:30
bob2GMAN2003: no, please do what I said07:30
vinuxSo if I buy debian and get all the cds I can just put them and install without downloading right?07:30
bob2vinux: ou can install debian, yes07:30
bob2vinux: you can't use them on ubuntu, in general07:30
r0bbyI installed the mingw cross-compiler07:30
r0bby:)07:30
vinuxbob2, oh ok07:30
rideoutvinux: buy debian? that seems so wrong...07:31
vinuxbob2, so debian is not totally compatible07:31
GMAN2003im assuming i have to type that in a terminal window?07:31
r0bbyrideout, download an iso07:31
vinuxrideout, hehe I ment money for the cds07:31
bob2vinux: ubuntu hoary is not generally package compatible with debian sarge, no07:31
r0bbythe only thing you're paying for is the cds07:31
r0bbyand the labor07:31
bob2GMAN2003: no, it's a file you need to show us07:31
r0bbyGMAN2003, you're using xchat correct?07:32
nernive gotten a couple packages from debian unstable07:32
r0bbyin #flood07:32
r0bbydo07:32
nernbut i wouldnt use it regularly07:32
r0bby/exec -o cat /etc/apt/sources.list07:32
vinuxbob2, well that's ok i'm still sticking with the best linux on earth! ubuntu07:32
GMAN2003yep07:32
r0bbydo that in #flood07:32
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r0bby(not here)07:32
r0bbyit will flood like a mofo07:33
vile_how do i share the internet connection from my linux computer to my windows computer? I've got 2 NICs in the linux computer and a crossover going to the windows computer. i've tried http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ShareInternetConnection/ to no avail07:33
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raghuhondje: okay thx let me play with it.07:33
r0bbyhmm07:33
syndvile_: been trying to figure out myself.07:33
Jesse1its easy to do it the other way07:33
hondjeraghu: give 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' a try07:33
r0bbyyou need to nat07:33
r0bbythat's what you need to do07:33
vile_tried http://www.netfilter.org/documentation/HOWTO//NAT-HOWTO.html#toc4.1 also07:34
vile_still no luck07:34
r0bbyI had an iptables rules file that did natting07:34
r0bbylost it07:34
GMAN2003aight07:34
concept10vile_, you don't have router?07:34
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r0bbyvile_, i don't know what to tell you, those documents work.07:34
GMAN2003bob2: lemme know when u c it07:35
raghuhondje: okay07:35
r0bbyit has to be something you're doing07:35
r0bby:P07:35
vile_concept10, its kind of hard to explain, i've got a router and a hub07:35
bob2vile_: install the ipmasq package07:35
bob2GMAN2003: so, you didn't actually comment out the cd rom line07:35
bob2GMAN2003: go do that, and it'll stop trying to access it07:35
GMAN2003where do i comment out?07:36
keithCould use some help installing Ubuntu on a laptop. Brand new HP Pavillion zv6008cl, AMD 64. When I try booting the install or live CDs, it goes to the "choose language" screen and freezes (or, maybe it's not recognizing the laptop keyboard). Can anyone lend a hand?07:36
vile_perhaps i have to mess with the setting on the windows computer07:36
bob215:21:49           bob2 | GMAN2003: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out (add a # to the beginning of the line) that mentions the cd07:36
bob2GMAN2003: as above07:36
GMAN2003easy enough07:36
syndvile_: its most likely the linux box07:37
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concept10Anyone use amule?07:38
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goofyheadedpunkI just installed Ubuntu on a laptop and both the console and X environments have a ~3cm border around the content of the screen and the border of the monitor. I've never had this problem with X before, only console. Anyone have any idea what's going on?07:38
vile_heh, taking bob2's advice and installing the ipmasq package07:38
goofyheadedpunkconcept10: I do.07:38
goofyheadedpunkOh crap, I sent that earlier. Sorry.07:38
concept10you know how I might speed up transfers?07:38
_root_is there any benefit if the login shell for a root user is static ?07:38
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bob2not usually07:38
bob2if youre a paranoid sysadmin running a critical machine, it might be worth it07:39
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goofyheadedpunkconcept10: The trick is you don't. Patience will bring you wait you're, likely, stealing.07:39
goofyheadedpunkconcept10: It's the network, not the client, that's slow.07:39
concept10goofyheadedpunk, stealing lol07:39
concept10im trying to download a podcast07:40
goofyheadedpunkconcept10: Woops. Assumed too much. ;)07:40
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goofyheadedpunkHehe.07:40
Jesse1i have the live cd at the moment and if i install any packages through the repositories is there anyway to keep them when i reboot?07:40
GMAN2003bob2, keeps telling me access denied07:40
concept10Jesse1, do a full install07:41
bob2GMAN2003: when you say things like that, you need to tell us *what* is saying "access denied"07:41
goofyheadedpunkconcept10: Yeah, it's the network that's slow. You'll just have to be patient. Or see if there's a torrent with a lot of seeds. That always works when I'm in a hurry.07:41
GMAN2003im trying to edit the line07:41
keithOne more try. Sorry to be a bother... I could use some help installing Ubuntu on a laptop. Brand new HP Pavillion zv6008cl, AMD 64. When I try booting the install or live CDs, it goes to the "choose language" screen and freezes (or, maybe it's not recognizing the laptop keyboard). Can anyone lend a hand?07:41
concept10Jesse1, jabe you ever heard of ram?07:41
Jesse1i would be the cd's are comming in the mail so untill then is there any way?07:41
Jesse1ram as in the hardware?07:42
concept10Jesse1, keep your computer on07:42
bob2GMAN2003: so, some text editor is giving you that error?07:42
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bob2GMAN2003: run "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" in a terminal07:42
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GMAN2003bob2, i tried using a couple of editors to comment out the cd line, and all keep saying Access Denied07:42
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hondjekeith: If you hit F1 (IIRC), it should give you some options07:42
bob2GMAN2003: yes, of course, you need root permissions to edit files in /etc/07:43
Jesse1yea ill try to keep my computer on as long as i can07:43
keithhondje: I went through every option screen, trying a few options, and nothing changed the behavior I was getting.07:43
bob2GMAN2003: run the command I gave you07:43
hondjekeith: Did you try the acpi=off thing? I don't know laptops at all, but I hear that suggested a lot07:43
GMAN2003alright, comment out, and close?07:43
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bob2GMAN2003: then save and exit07:44
keithnot sure if that's one of the things I tried. gimme a sec and I'll try it :)07:44
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dbernar1,07:44
vile_bob2, is there anything i need to know about ipmasq?07:44
atholasCan someone please check for me whether screensaver-properties.desktop is in /usr/share/control-center-2.0/capplets in hoary?07:44
vile_it doesnt seem to be recognizing eth1 just eth007:45
dbernar1!hi07:45
ubotudbernar1: Are you smoking crack?07:45
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keithWhat's a little ironic about my trouble is that supposedly HP was working with the Ubuntu team to get Ubuntu working great on their laptops.07:45
dbernar1!hi07:45
ubotudbernar1: No idea07:45
wulfepupturns out I suck at this Linux crap and I'm heading back to an environment that behaves the way I expect it to.  When i install something I'd like to friggin be able to use it. If soemthing else installs it for me, I'd still like to be able to use it and find it and stuff.07:45
keiththough, maybe we won't see the results of that until the next release?07:45
dbernar1ok, sorry, just testing something''07:45
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wulfepupI thought aptitude/Synaptic/apt-get was the bomb-diggity but I can find my way around this thing..07:46
wulfepuperr can't07:46
wulfepupkeith, only certain laptops cheif07:46
dbernar1see ya:P07:46
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GMAN2003bob2, frickin sweet dude, thx for the tip, F3 to save07:47
GMAN2003synaptic boots w/o the error now07:47
keithhondje: Tried acpi=off and it freezes even earlier, during boot. Last message is "i8042.c: Detected active multiplexing controller, rev 1.1". So, that's a no go.07:47
wulfepupkeith, try doing noapic I've seen that in many a google'd page07:47
BratCati have a problem trying to su in a konsole07:47
keithI tried noapic and the other no-something command earlier.07:47
BratCati know the password is correct because wehn i use that password i can open kynaptic but it doesnt see it as correct when i try to su with it07:48
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hondjekeith: sorry, no clue then :-/07:48
GMAN2003bob2, if u ever need any halo tips, gimme a call07:48
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keithany chance that one of the noapic and the other no-something command might work if tried inependently?07:49
dbernar1BratCat its turned off, www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/rootsudo07:49
wulfepupkeith, beyond me as well...  I have a zv5000 series that I've giot basically working with it07:49
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BratCatoh07:49
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keithhmm... other option... laptops don't have a special keyboard layout... like, instead of 'dvorak' or 'us'?07:49
thechitowncubsdoes anyone use FreeNX?07:50
thechitowncubsI apt-get'ed it but I have no idea how to connect07:50
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retrodickhelp me please!!07:51
dbernar1no.07:51
retrodick:(07:51
BratCatthank you! got it turned on now!07:51
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dbernar1thats not a good thing:P07:52
dbernar1go, dick, we'll try07:52
keithoh well. Thanks wulfepup, hondje.07:52
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BratCathow do i get the universal debian apt source so i can get more stuff?07:52
wulfepupkeith,  your guess is as good as mine I'm basically a Linux n00b getting ready to give upi if I can't figure out how and where and iff the PHP got installed on this dang thiong07:52
wulfepupkeith, I used this page (http://wiki.cynapses.org/index.php/TIP_HP_Pavilion_zv5000_Notebook) to get my wireless running...07:52
BratCati want supertux and its not in the ubunto apt07:53
retrodickhow to install *.deb file package?07:53
dbernar1sure it is, BratCat07:53
BratCatdpkg -i debianpackage.deb07:53
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dbernar1BratCat now where to find sources.list?07:53
BratCatmmhmm07:54
dbernar1retrodick try finding the file in apt-get first07:54
keithwulfepup, thanks for the link07:54
dbernar1BratCat that was intended as a know.07:54
BratCatmmhmm i do07:54
dbernar1retrodick tune into my and BratCat 's discussion, youll get a better chance of finding the file in apt-get07:54
dbernar1ok, http://www.mts.net/~danb/sources.list07:55
dbernar1make it that07:55
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dbernar1help retrodick  make  it that too, then both update...07:55
dbernar1and try installling supertux, it is there, and you retrodick try installing whatever you ahppen to be installing using apt-get or aptitude, even better.07:55
dbernar1ok, latahz07:56
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BratCatok thank you07:57
retrodickdpkg -i debianpackage.deb <<---but it return error "package architecture (powerpc) does not match system (i386)07:57
retrodickErrors were encountered while processing:07:57
retrodick nvu_1.0PR-1_powerpc.deb07:57
retrodick"07:57
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retrodickugh...07:58
retrodicki really need this nvu07:58
retrodickany sugesst?07:58
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BratCatwhat is nvu?07:58
gm78retrodick : u r trying to run a ppc compiled deb on a non ppc machine07:58
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gm78BratCat : nvu is a wysiwyg html editor07:58
retrodickNVU such a WYSWIG html editor07:58
gm78retrodick : query me...i know how to get it running07:58
BratCatok ok, i thought it might be an nvidia thing07:58
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gm78BratCat : it is sponsered by linspire and is based on mozilla composer...it will probably replace it like Firefox and Thunderbird did to the rest of the suite07:59
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retrodicki dun know....but im sure my pc is not an nvdia07:59
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retrodickups07:59
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gm78retrodick : no. a ppc is a mac. i386 or x86 is an intel/amd computer08:00
hondjeNot always a mac....08:00
retrodicki386 base08:00
gm78retrodick : i opened a private chat08:00
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gm78hondje : well yeah. but there arent many cheap ppc computers that arent macs...ibm's power based workstations start at $400008:01
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hondjeYeah, got one at the office08:01
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hondjeThe I/O on that thing rocks, too bad it isn't mine08:01
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hondjePlus mkuser is such a good name, fits the scheme X-(08:01
gm78hondje : linux or aix?08:02
hondjeaix08:02
hondjeI really have a deep rooted hate with 'useradd'08:02
hondjejust the name, it's terrible08:03
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maswanhondje: well, passwd-ng was part of a project to make that happen, I think it is coreutils-ng now08:03
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wulfepupno one *needs* a Wussy Wig editor. just use vi or pico or gedit or emacs or (etc etc etc)08:03
hondjemaswan: To get rid of the name useradd?08:03
wulfepupIf you *need* wussy wig  you don't *need* to be doing HTML08:03
wulfepup((sorry just had to vent that one. ))08:03
wulfepuphondje, but it, too is appropo .. mst users do have add....08:04
BROKEN_LADDERanyone know of some sources of good "internet tv" that i can use in helix player, or gstreamer apps in general?08:04
wulfepuppings please?08:04
BROKEN_LADDERi hate tv, but wouldn't mind some bbc or something..08:04
hondjewulfepup: yeah, but you mkdir, mkthis, mkthat, it fits the scheme08:04
maswanhondje: to get nice, aix, naming on those utils08:04
hondjemaswan: That makes me feel good to hear!08:04
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maswanwulfepup: also, there is lsuser, lsfs, lspv, rmuser, rmfs, ...08:05
Cybermagellancan someone help nudge me in the right direction of setting up proftpd, It looks XML'ish....but I don't know what specifics I have to have.08:05
kakaltohow do I format a hdd, and make it fat32?08:05
hondjemaswan: I can't believe only AIX does that, it seems so obvious08:06
hondjechuser, too08:06
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BROKEN_LADDERkakalto use cfdisk08:06
Chris-Could anyone help me with partitioning my harddrive?08:06
wulfepupyu guys are fun.....Ubuntu is fun .....08:06
wulfepupBUT08:06
kakaltoBROKEN_LADDER, continue?08:06
hondjelike having adduser and useradd...wtf?08:07
kakaltoI'm in cfdisk08:07
Cybermagellanto add a user is it <adduser> username </adduser> or is it <username ~/dir/to/ftp>?08:07
kakaltoBROKEN_LADDER, do I want fat32, or fat32 (LBA)?08:07
wulfepupI quit. I don't know enough to anything worthwhile.. but I do know enough to crash my system.. *sigh*08:08
rob^?08:08
maswanhondje: well, the progress on sysutils[-ng]  seems slow, but there is some working code so you can replace it on your system at least. :)08:09
Cybermagellandid I stump everyone?08:09
hondjemaswan: I might end up doing that...right now I just alias stuff, which is odd because I rarely use AIX08:09
hondjeI just like consistency08:09
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CybermagellanHmmm...08:11
maswanhondje: well, chgrpmem or chuser foo -a pgrp=bar might be hard to do in aliases. :)08:11
hondjemaswan: yeah, indeed it is08:12
cletuscan I move an entry in Grub's config from the bottom to the top and have it boot as the default os?08:12
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thechitowncubsDoes anyone use FreeNX08:13
vile_is the ubuntu website down for anyone else?08:13
BratCatis there a way to get my live drive to work in ubuntu?08:13
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wulfepupok, so using Synaptic to install PHP doesn't actually install it and get it running it just dumps it on your HD *somewhere* and expects everything to be ok.  Or at least that is the way it seems in my case.08:14
wulfepupI don't know how.. but I also ended up with Apache and Apache 2 .... how do I know which is running?08:14
wulfepupI think, just maybe, that Ubuntu is too easy. id10ts like myself should never be allowed near stuff like Linux.  just leave us to our bill-of-vorg boxes....08:14
hondjevile_: up here08:14
wulfepupborg .. not vorg08:14
hondjevile_: I did see some email about the wiki's being moved from plone, though08:14
Cybermagellanthey're going to moin08:14
hondjethat's right08:14
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hondjeubuntu-devel is pretty amusing though08:16
hondjeI enjoyed the long iptables/laptop thing08:17
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CybermagellanI start most the wars on there....08:17
Chris-Could anyone willing to help me with the partitioning for dual boot setup please PM me please? Thank you.08:18
wulfepupI got greedy.. I was sitting on a 400+KBps connection ... and I dl'ed too much and now I don't know what all I installed or where any of it is.08:18
hondjewulfepup: using apt, or just downloading?08:18
wulfepupLet alone how to use any of it08:18
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wulfepupSynaptic08:19
hondjeah08:19
wulfepup(so yeah, apt)08:19
hondjeit's installed where it needs to be08:19
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hondjewhat did you install?08:19
wulfepuphondje, ooohhh too much.. and some stuff with dependencies (using smart) ..08:20
cthulfuegowulfepup: ls /var/cache/apt/archives/08:20
hondjehehe, there is that route :)08:21
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wulfepupthe main things I want to play with are the PHP and Apache....  turns out two Apaches are installed... Apache2 and Apache... and PHP isn't installed to run.. it is just existing.08:21
hondjeAh08:21
hondjeWhat do you mean, not installed to run?08:22
wulfepup((and MySQL -- I'm pretty sure that's running but I haven't even set up root yet))08:22
_kazIs there a way to have the update service automatically install the updates?08:22
cthulfuegowulfepup: Remove apache, run 'sudo a2enmod php4; sudo apache2ctl graceful'08:22
hondje /var/www is your apache happy place, now, btw, though having two might be un-good08:22
wulfepupApache (or Apache2, whichever is actually running right now) is not configured to handle PHP...08:22
cthulfuego_kaz: Unattended updates are a BAD idea.08:22
_kazI was thinking about setting up ubuntu for my family members who shouldn't have computers because they can't stop getting trojaned.08:23
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wulfepupcthulfuego, to remove apache you mean via apt?08:23
_kazcthulfuego: no doubt. no updates could be worse in certain cases though.08:23
hondjeon a stable distro I don't see why that'd be bad, cthulfuego08:23
cthulfuegowulfepup: apt-get remove --purge apache08:23
_kazor maybe there is something that can assist in nagging that updates are waiting.08:23
cthulfuegohondje: What if say an 'passwd' update fails due to disk full?08:24
_kazsomething more than the little icon in top right tray.08:24
rem_.08:24
hondje_kaz: You want to use cron08:24
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_kazhondje: cron how?08:24
topyli_kaz: ssh into their box once in a while and run the updates :)08:25
hondje_kaz: you'll have to do some reading on cron, it's not a 'click here' sorta thing08:25
cthulfuegotopyli: Indeed.08:25
goofyheadedpunkBeing new to ubuntu this is my first time using sudo. I've got a fresh ubuntu installation and want to do something using sudo. Is the root password set in the ubuntu installation not the sudo password?08:25
cthulfuego_kaz: if it was a good idea to do unattended updates, there'd be a default option to do it.08:25
cthulfuegogoofyheadedpunk: sudo wants *your* password. Ubuntu has no root password.08:26
hondjecthulfuego: well, throw in apt-get clean, but you make a good point08:26
goofyheadedpunkcthulfuego: I see.08:26
wulfepupcthulfuego, ok  .. apache removed... "This module is already enabled!" and "httpd not running, trying to start"08:26
_kaztopyli: ahh... good idea.08:26
cthulfuegowulfepup: is apache2 running now, then?08:27
cthulfuego_kaz: ssh is how I maintain remote debian sarge servers fo clients.08:27
_kazhondje: I know cron... just curious what to cron.08:27
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_kazI meant   s/cron how/cron what08:27
wulfepupyup..08:27
wulfepupwhich httpd.conf should I tweak for adding php (since it's still trying to "open or save" them)?08:27
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hondje_kaz: there's a script already in cron.daily for apt, that's how the magic update applet knows to work, I'd add a bit to that to do apt-get dist-upgrade08:28
cthulfuegowulfepup: Quit your browser and reopen it. it's probably caching.08:28
_kazah ok08:28
goofyheadedpunkIs the kernel source on the install cd? I have to hack tulip to get a silly Microsoft MN-120 to function, but I don't have the kernel source on the laptop without an ethernet card.08:28
_kazthanks. I'll look into that.08:29
hondjehehe08:29
hondjesomone in the forums suggested messing with inittab to reduce the gettys taking up memory :D08:29
wulfepuparrggg  no.. the files are .phtml instead of .php  I just need to go edit those.08:30
cthulfuegohondje: Sheesh, deperate measures ;-)08:31
topylii wonder how much a getty actually takes :)08:31
hondjecthulfuego: I'm just waiting for someone to rip off a how-to on that, and see how many do it08:31
cthulfuegowulfepup: oh, edit /etc/apache2/mods-available/php4.conf08:31
hondjethat'd be a great troll08:32
Madpilothondje: according to Symtem Mon, they don't take up *any* resources just sitting there... :)08:32
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cthulfuegotopyli: 28Kb it seems08:32
DanielCStupid question: Do I need Postfix to check my mail? (IMAP).08:33
cthulfuegoDanielC: no.08:33
HrdwrBoBno08:33
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cthulfuegoDanielC: postfix is for sending/relaying mail08:33
DanielCOk, thanks. I'll delete it then.08:33
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topyliDanielC: no!08:33
hondje472KB RSS on mine08:33
DanielCoh08:33
DanielCok08:33
cthulfuegoDanielC: you -do_ want an mta (like postfix) though!08:33
DanielCOh, so I need it for sending.08:33
cthulfuegohondje: holy crap batman!08:33
rob^why?08:33
topyliDanielC: you get system mail through the local postfix08:34
hondjecthulfuego: Yeah, a bit surprising08:34
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DanielCtopyli: Ok, I see. Well... I'm glad I asked. I almost did something stupid.08:34
cthulfuegoDanielC: Depends. if you use a client like evolution with a remote smtp server you _could_ go without postfix, but the local system processes like to be able to send mail about errors etc.08:34
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DanielCcthulfuego: Ok. I'm actually using Thunderbird with a remote SMTP server. But it looks like I should keep Postfix anyways...08:35
_kazis gnome faster than kde? (or is ubuntu desktop more 'snappy' than kubuntu desktop on the same hardware?)08:35
hondje_kaz: You'll never get a good answer to that :)08:36
cthulfuegoDanielC: You could replace postfix with zmail or soemthing else that's tiny.08:36
cthulfuegos/zmail/zmailer/08:36
_kazI ask because on my notebook running ubuntu, there seems to be freezing sometimes... just for a split second08:36
hondjeI think KDE is faster for a bare desktop, Gnome when you load up the toys08:36
_kazbut its like its accessing disc or something (its installed, not liveCD)08:36
DanielCcthulfuego: Is that hard to do? Do I just install zmailer with Synamptic and that's it?08:36
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cthulfuego_kaz: On my amd64 desktop Gnome is faster. On my wife's Mac Mini KDE is faster.08:37
cthulfuegoDanielC: yep08:37
DanielCcthulfuego: Thanks for the help. I appreciate it.08:37
hondjecthulfuego: hehe, I"m not the only one that bought a mini mac for that reason? :D08:37
cthulfuegoDanielC: Or try nullmailer if you don't much care about errors logs.08:37
goofyheadedpunkOkay, let's say I need to get my hands on ubuntu's kernel config without having apt ability. How do I do that?08:37
goofyheadedpunkStated another way, where's the kernel config located on the internet?08:37
hondjegoofyheadedpunk: you can install the kernel-headers package08:37
cthulfuegohondje: Well, Tiger with CaseSenstitiveHFSPlus has issues with adobe software and likes more then 512Mb ram, so she's just in linux most of the time.08:38
hondjecthulfuego: ah08:38
hondjeI bought mine one so that I wouldn't have to keep paying for cedega and ssh'ing to fix stuff08:38
cthulfuegoThat _may_ change if either Adobe get their shit together and TEST thei software before shipping and we order a new 1GB stick of ram.08:38
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goofyheadedpunkhondje: I've never used a debian system before. Mostly BSDs, so I'm still a bit shakey on how it all works. ( I've not stopped to RTFM closely, as I really would like to hack tulip, get this stupid NIC up, and then go to bed. ) I would issue "apt-get kernel-headers"? That seems like it would assume I can connect to the repositories though.08:39
cthulfuegohondje: And you know, we hav to boot OSX every now and they for the eyecandy ;-)08:39
paxorExcuse my newbness. I just installed ubuntu, what's a smooth way to install KDE, opt-get?08:40
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cthulfuegopaxor: synaptic, kubuntu-dektop08:41
_kazpaxor: did you see www.kubuntu.org ?08:41
paxorYes, I did.08:41
sk2is it better to use here or the forums for troubleshooting an installation?08:41
hondjegoofyheadedpunk: hold juuust a sec :()08:41
_kazpaxor: just checking, I'm a ubuntu newbie too.08:41
hondjecthulfuego: hehe08:41
paxorIsnt kubuntu a differnt distro (kinda) tho?08:41
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Cybermagellan_kaz does just installing kubuntu-desktop give you KDE?08:42
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wulfepupthat is toooooooooooo odd....  1) I changed the files to be .php .. and the .phtml is already in the /etc/apache2/mods-available/php4.conf (didn't need to edit it.)08:42
wulfepupBUT it is still saying that I'm trying to dl a PHTML file what do I want to do with it.08:42
wulfepupHow do I bring apache down and back up again?08:42
goofyheadedpunkhondje: Oh geez. I'm WAY too tired. I just found the sources on the install disk. Sorry. I should really have done this earlier in the day.08:42
_kazcybermagellan: ask cthulfuego ;)08:42
hondjegoofyheadedpunk: hehe :)08:42
cthulfuegowulfepup: /etc/init.d/apache2 stop; /etc/init.d/apache2 start08:42
_kazI would guess that it gives you a bare/base KDE though.08:43
CybermagellanHmm.08:43
cthulfuegoCybermagellan: It does.08:43
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rideout wulfepup: /etc/init.d/apache2 restart08:43
_kazwhere maybe kubuntu would give you a pre-LOADED kde desktop based on the stuff included in that distro of ubuntu.08:43
cthulfuego_kaz: No, it gives you all Kubuntu stuff.08:43
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_kazall: or I could be wrong because I'm a ubuntu newbie. :] 08:43
wulfepuprideout, TY08:44
wulfepupinit.d is my friend.. I must learn this.. *g*08:44
_kazthats cool. So you can just apt-get install kde-desktop and have the option to load kde instead of gnome?08:44
_kazcould you load either/or then?08:44
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Cybermagellanit's kubuntu-desktop08:44
Whistleri think u have to remove gnome08:45
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yahalomhow do i force apt-get to overwrite when upgrading?08:46
paxorKinda confused my self. What's the difference between kubuntu and plain kde?08:46
hondjeis /usr/share/kernel-package/config the config my kernel was compiled with?08:47
yahalompaxor, modified for ubuntu08:47
rideoutwulfepup: you might want to check out "$man invoke-rc.d" that is the kosher way to do it, but sysv is overrated anyway08:47
paxoryahalom, as in what? secure, eyecandy> what>08:47
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Splanei need help with Totem08:48
hondjeor /usr/share/kernel-package/Config/config.i686 ?08:48
rideoutare we going to have modular initscripts with dependcy resolutions to run them in parrallel by breezy? i think it is a bounty...08:48
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yahalompaxor, neither. more like the apps they chose to be part of kde.08:49
paxorsynaptic says kubuntutu 0.4, is that the latest KDE?08:49
hondjeKubuntu-desktop installs KDE 3.408:50
paxorCheck.08:50
sk2has anyone else had the installer continually look for nic-extra-modules-2.6.10 or are there any tips to skip this module?08:50
cthulfuegorideout: Breezy is stealing launchd from Apple? :-)08:50
paxorkubuntu will leave gnome alone, correct?08:50
rideoutKDE 3.4.1: deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde341 hoary-updates main08:50
hondjepaxor: yeah, you can have both08:50
paxorty.08:50
hondjepaxor: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop will put in kubuntu, and then you can pick between gnome or kde at the login screen08:51
paxorI'm on it sir.08:51
rideoutcthulfuego: i'm not familar with osX, but if it does what i said, then yeah08:51
hondje1-=408:51
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hondjeer, 10-408:51
Splanei just installed Ubuntu on my system.  I immediately downloaded a bunch of audio/video codecs in order to get Totem to play the files that I want.  However, when I try to open ANY movie file, DVD, or VCD, Totem freezes for a minute and then crashes.  What am I doing wrong?08:51
BurgundaviaSplane, switch to totem-xine08:51
Splaneok08:52
Splanesource forge?08:52
NicPor try vlc08:52
NicPno use apt-get08:52
sk2can anyone help with the installer locking up when installing additional modules?08:52
rideoutcthulfuego: I found were I read it (linked from the proposed bounty page) http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/DependencyInit08:53
cthulfuegorideout: yes, apple released the source for their new Tiger init system; it auto-resolveds depends for scripts and launches stuff in parralel.08:53
sk2so i cannot run the installer on a system with 32 megabytes of ram?08:54
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Burgundaviacthulfuego, the license they released it under is not entirely DFSG-free08:54
cthulfuegoBurgundavia: Yeah, apple free software licenese or somesuch?08:54
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Burgundaviacthulfuego, yes08:54
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GMAN2003alright guys, so i need help again08:54
hondjeslack maybe08:55
GMAN2003i keep downloading apps, but i cannot see them under my applications08:55
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BurgundaviaGMAN2003, most likely, they are not setup install something into the menu08:55
cthulfuegobartekp: There's no reason we need to know that.08:55
GMAN2003so how can i run them?08:55
BurgundaviaGMAN2003, Hoary uses a different menu system than Warty08:55
BurgundaviaGMAN2003, find out the program in /usr/bin and run it with applications-->run application08:56
bartekpcthulfuego: yes ;/08:56
GMAN2003what do you mean run--->application?08:57
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hondjeGMAN2003: click the applications menu, then the 'run applications' button is what he means08:57
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cthulfuegobartekp: no.08:57
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cthulfuegobartekp: if you do it, there's no reason 400 others can't as well. it's spam.08:58
bartekpcthulfuego: ok, no there's no reason you need to know tha08:58
bartekpt08:58
paxorspeaking fo which ... if I want to a process from console without leaving that console open just for that process what do you end it with?08:58
bartekpcthulfuego: sorry08:58
paxorstart*08:58
GMAN2003oh sure, yeah, i tried that already, no dice, i just installed mpg123 and it wont run08:59
bigbill52a128 megs seems the minimum for live cd08:59
bartekpcthulfuego: What is spam? Spam is the same thing lots and lots of times.08:59
paxorsay: firefox -(what)08:59
bartekpcthulfuego: http://www.usenet.pl/nospam/simple-english.txt08:59
g1gamancan anybody tell me what is the minimal size for each partition of ubuntu 4.10 version? (the problem is that i need to install ubuntu on two harddisks (1,7gb & 1 gb, and i runned out of disk space while hda was /ext3 and hdb was /swap. PLEASE, HELP ME GENTLEMEN!08:59
kakaltoIf I have the grub in the MBR of a SATA hdd, then plug in a new ATA hdd, how can I make it go to the SATA hdd?08:59
cyphasewoohoo! It's my birthday in 1 minute! :D08:59
paxorhappy B-Day.08:59
sk2has anyone managed to install ubuntu on 32 megabytes of ram, or should I look for an alternative distro?08:59
bigbill52ause it when i can on customers computers to move files...and then system rescue cd for anything less than 128 megs08:59
kakalto'cause it goes to the ATA hdd, finds no MBR, and complains09:00
plastbananMy locale settings seems to be messed up. The date format for danish is wrong, while other date formats seem ok. How can I fix this?09:00
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kakaltohappy birthday, cyphase!09:00
cyphasethanx :D09:00
bob2g1gaman: begging is annoying and will make people ignore you09:00
bob2g1gaman: 1.8GB is required for the default install09:00
bigbill52ask2 get more ram...you should have 256 megs for decent speed09:00
bob2(+ swap)09:00
GMAN2003hondje; any other suggestions?09:01
cthulfuegoRather than begging, pay us a consultant fee.09:01
cthulfuegoit's much more effective ;-)09:01
g1gamanbob2, what should i do then? 1,7+1= approx 2,709:01
bob2g1gaman: that doesn't help09:01
bigbill52ayou can use text mode with less ram...no xwindows09:01
kakaltocan I use a warty livecd to install grub to the MBR?09:01
bigbill52aor server mode09:01
GMAN2003bob2; im back with more questions09:02
bob2awesome09:02
bigbill52aeven 128 megs is pushing it..09:02
GMAN2003:-/09:02
GMAN2003i know, noobies are no fun.....09:02
bigbill52awindows 98 barely works on 32 megs09:02
sk2ok then, I guess I'll look for another distribution09:02
paxorGuys, if I want to start a process from console without leaving that console open just for that process what do you end it with?  say: firefox -(what)09:03
bigbill52ayou will still be faced with no xwindows...09:03
GMAN2003anyskoozels, just cant get some appz to load, they seem to install fine, but i try to run them and nothing happens09:03
sk2bigbill52a: its an old laptop09:03
sk2that's tolerable09:03
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bob2paxor: it's nothing to do with the program being run09:03
sk2windows 98 runs alright, I have a friend running win2k on a lower specced laptop09:03
bob2paxor: nohup firefox&09:03
sk2In the forums they talk about http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=39060&highlight=low+ram09:03
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bigbill52atry the live cd and see if it will do anything09:04
goofyheadedpunkSay I've got foo.deb on my hard disk. How do I go about installing that without adding anything to sources.list?09:05
bob232MB of tam is not going to be much fun for anything graphical09:05
hondjegoofyheadedpunk: dpkg -i foo.deb09:05
bob2goofyheadedpunk: what is it?09:05
paxorbob2, nohup is just what I need thanks.09:05
DanielCbob2, g1gaman: Shouldn't there be a way to (say) mount /usr on the 1.7 GB drive and mount / on the 1 GB?09:05
goofyheadedpunkbob2: Just a hypothetical.09:05
sk2In the installer it says "You must have at least 24 MB of RAM to use this installer", but in that forum post http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=39060&highlight=low+ram they mention 32 mb, for the same problem as what I have09:05
bigbill52ayou can go and eat lunch and come back  and.................................09:05
bob2DanielC: sure, you can do that during the install09:06
goofyheadedpunkhondje: Thanks.09:06
bob2sk2: it should enable low memory mode09:06
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sk2I have the same problem as that guy, he was also running it on a laptop with 32mb of ram09:06
bigbill52awww.memoryx.com can give you some options even with old computers09:06
bigbill52awhat do you have?09:06
sk2bob2: is there a way to check/force low memory mode?09:06
sk2ok09:07
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sk2Toshiba 470CDT09:07
bob2sk2: not that I know of.  I'd try asking on the user list, personally/.09:07
bigbill52ajust a minute09:07
antiwmacam i able to run ubuntu from vmware? i never get this thing rigt09:07
cthulfuegoantiwmac: yep09:07
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bartekpcthulfuego: so, what is spam?09:07
g1gamanDanielC, ok. i have to unpartioned harddisks? which partitions and what size should be on each of them?09:07
DanielCg1gaman: I can't remember the install process, so I'm guessing here. I would say that each disk should have just one partition; that /usr should go on the 1.7 GB disk and / should go on the 1 GB disk.09:08
g1gamanDanielC, ok. i have two unpartioned harddisks. which partitions and what size should be on each of them? sorry for misspelling09:08
sk2I have 2gb of hard disk, so perhaps I could set up swap somehow to extend the ram during install? (couldn't find anything in the forums on how to do this though)09:09
DanielCg1gaman: The /usr directory seems to take 1.4 GB on my system (this is not a default system, I've installed a lot of stuff).09:09
DanielCg1gaman: But for me, /usr has more stuff that all other directories put together.09:10
bigbill52ayeah...limited...09:10
bigbill52ai dont think you can add much more memory09:10
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bigbill52aif any09:10
g1gamanDanielC, ok. thank you very much. i'll try to do your way09:10
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sk2bigbill52a: do you reckon I could just use more swap space or something to install?09:11
DanielCg1gaman: Good luck. Hope it works.09:11
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bigbill52adont think so...but maybe someone else would have similar problem and solved it...09:11
rideoutsk2: can you debootstap the hard dist from another comp with more ram and only install the things you need?09:11
TokenBadhmm..why will wmv files not play on here09:12
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sk2rideout: do what?09:12
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umany0 all09:13
sk2rideout: sorry closed window09:13
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uman\/\/h4t up m`/ h0m13z?!?11shift+one shift+one shift+two09:13
rideoutsk2: well, if you can access the hd from another computer, you can run http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/admin/debootstrap09:14
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uman</retard>09:14
umanhello there, everyone.09:14
rideoutsk2: basically is facilates a chroot install09:14
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rideoutsk2: chroot *net install09:14
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sk2so you mean physically remove the laptop hdd and run it in another computer?09:15
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bigbill52aToshiba Satellite Pro 470CDT Memory09:15
bigbill52aMaximum Memory09:15
bigbill52a144MB09:15
bigbill52aMemory Slots09:15
bigbill52a109:15
bigbill52anon-removable base memory09:15
bigbill52a16MB09:15
ubuntuHi - can anyone please let me know how to configure wirelan network on ubuntu09:16
ubuntuI have a Dell desktop PC and ubuntu is able to configure all the devices except my wireless lan card09:16
bigbill52ayou can install up to 128 + 16 base for a total of 144 megs....for $10909:16
bartekpubuntu: http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/09:16
anacronubuntu: you might have to use ndiswrapper09:16
bigbill52aand then you should be able to use xwindows09:16
sk2bigbill52a: in australia unfortunately09:16
rideoutsk2: (sorry i missed the begining of your thread) that is one way, or also you can run it off a live-cd on your laptop. it doesn't have the memory overhead of the full installer, and only does a base system, but if your cool with apt it should be enough09:17
bigbill52awww.memoryx.com...can you order from there09:17
ubuntuThx09:17
sk2rideout: I'm only really used to gentoo packages09:17
sk2ah ok bigbill52a09:17
sk2I think maybe the livecd method is worth a shot09:17
sk2Is there a way to not need the net connection to do the livecd install (since I already have the packages on the .iso cd)09:18
bigbill52aubuntu live cd does not work without 128 megs...it will just hang with less memory....09:18
sk2yep, it's hanging as soon as it gets to installing the packages09:18
sk2I might try knoppix later09:19
bigbill52amaybe 90 megs...but cant remember ..i know it wont work with just 64 megss09:19
rideoutsk2: well, when you log in after the install, a run "$ apt-get install kde" and kde will be installed (or gnome if you change the command)09:19
DanielCubuntu: I've heard that wireless cards are tricky to get working on Linux, and some just won't work because vendors refuse to provide specs. Try the link bartekp gave you, but be prepared for the possibility that it just won't work.  :(09:19
sk2no point in kde09:19
bigbill52ause live all the time on suitaable customer computers09:19
sk2is there another distribution with a less resource hungry installer?09:19
bigbill52aso have experience...lol....09:19
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bigbill52ait is not the installer..it is the xwindows09:20
sk2I mean the ubuntu installr won't work for me09:20
bigbill52ayou can run in text mode on smaller ram09:20
WhistlerCan anybody help me with this http://pastebin.com/299717 ?09:20
rideoutsk2: apt-get install fluxbox !!09:20
bigbill52ai use the system rescue cd and it works most of the time with any ram amount..since it is only text mode09:20
sk2I am, but it just loops as soon as it gets to installing extra packages, exactly the same problem as http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=39060&highlight=low+ram09:21
rideoutsk2: that was the point, debootstap is another installer for ubuntu withought the memory overhead09:21
sk2but I will need something to boot into first?09:21
Whistlerchecking host system type... configure: error: can not guess host type; you must specify one09:22
bigbill52ai copy customer files from corrupted windoze to a temporary external drive and then back again after reinstalling windows and checking said files for viruses....lovely windoze09:22
Whistlerwhats wrong?09:22
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sk2so best option is to give up on the official installer?09:22
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rideoutsk2: i think so09:22
bigbill52awindoze keeps me in business and linux is my main tool....09:22
DanielCWhistler09:22
sk2rideout: what livecd do you reccomend?09:22
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bigbill52aget more memory09:23
DanielCWhistler: sorry09:23
microhaxoGuys, i need help installin the ATI driver from the wiki page09:23
Whistler?09:23
microhaxousing command09:23
sk2bigbill52a: not really an option budget/time wise09:23
DanielCWhistler: I was going to ask if you had looked for .deb packages.09:23
WhistlerCan anybody help me with this http://pastebin.com/299717 ?09:23
microhaxosudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx09:23
microhaxoi get an error09:23
Whistleri looked09:23
bigbill52aor stick with windoze...09:23
microhaxocan anyone help me?09:23
bigbill52aand be bored..lol09:23
lamer1I've just installed Ubuntu 5.04 on my box ( PIV 3.0G SMP ) but by default the smp kernel is not installed. Should smp kernel be installed by default or there's something wrong...?09:24
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bigbill52amicrohaxo...i can help you09:24
microhaxohttp://pastebin.com/29972009:24
microhaxothat is the error bigbill52a09:24
zythlamer1, apt-get install linux-686-smp09:24
zythdefault is linux-28609:24
bigbill52adownload the xorg driver from ati09:24
zyther 386 :P09:24
lamer1zyth, yea I'm doing it09:24
microhaxowhere is that bigbill?09:24
bigbill52awww.ati.com09:25
lamer1but would it be better to install smp if CPU supprot ?09:25
lamer1supports it09:25
g1gamanwill 64 mb of ram be enough to run gnome environment on ubuntu 4.10? (i am installing ubuntu now, and after reading your texts, i am afraid that that pc is not good enough)09:25
microhaxois it this one?09:25
microhaxoX.Org 6.809:25
lamer1I mean by default09:25
microhaxothat one09:25
zythlinux-686-smp supports SMP :P09:25
bigbill52athere will three xfree drivers and one xorg driver ..download the xorg driver09:25
microhaxoyea this one?09:25
microhaxoX.Org 6.809:25
bigbill52ayou downloaded it?09:25
microhaxoyea09:25
bigbill52ait is in your home directory?09:26
microhaxoyep09:26
sk2rideout: what livecd shoudl i use to bootstrap from?09:26
bigbill52afollow these instructions09:26
microhaxoj09:26
microhaxok09:26
bigbill52aapt-get install alien09:26
rideoutsk2: http://mulinux.sunsite.dk/iso.html09:26
bigbill52asudo apt-get alien09:26
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microhaxoerr im completely new to linux, so i just paste them commands into shell?09:27
sk2me?09:27
bigbill52ain terminal window switch to home directory where file is located09:27
microhaxoyea09:27
bigbill52ayes09:27
bigbill52ain terminal window09:28
microhaxothen what?09:28
microhaxopaste them09:28
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DanielCWhistler: Does it give you a chance to specify the system type? Mine comes out to "i686-pc-linux-gnu".09:28
Burgundaviabigbill52a, follow the advice on wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto09:28
Burgundaviayou will have must better success09:28
bigbill52amine is installed09:28
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microhaxoI did follow that advice09:29
microhaxoi get that error i showed you09:29
microhaxo:|09:29
bigbill52ain a terminal window09:29
microhaxoErrors were encountered while processing:09:29
microhaxo /var/cache/apt/archives/xorg-driver-fglrx_6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu11_amd64.deb09:29
microhaxoE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)09:29
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bigbill52atype sudo cd /home/(and whatever dir the file is in09:30
WhistlerDanielC how do i know whats my type?09:30
microhaxoits just in the home09:30
DanielCWhistler: What computer do you have? CPU?09:30
bigbill52asudo alien fglrx*09:30
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WhistlerDuron09:30
Whistler60009:30
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microhaxok09:31
microhaxodid that09:31
microhaxomade a folder in home09:31
DanielCWhistler: http://packages.debian.org/testing/games/tuxracer09:31
snader'lo :-)09:31
microhaxogenerated a deb file09:31
microhaxofor rpm09:31
microhaxonow what?09:32
DanielCWhistler: Duron is exactly what I have.09:32
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bigbill52adel the rpm file and keep the deb file09:32
microhaxok09:32
g1gamanDanielC, i have only 64 mb of ram. will it be enough to run linux with gnome? is it ok that there is no swap partition (just /usr and /)?09:32
snaderanyone know why my fonts are +/- 2 pixels larger now i've disabled GDM?09:32
microhaxok now what09:32
DanielCWhistler: So yours would also be "i686-pc-linux-gnu". But try installing the .deb package first.09:32
Whistlerok thx09:32
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DanielCg1gaman: It'll be slow, but probably usable. I'm not sure though.09:33
bigbill52ajust a sec09:33
microhaxobigbill52a i deleted the rpm now what?09:33
microhaxolol09:33
microhaxoesp09:33
microhaxok09:33
wulfepupHow can I tell if I should use the AMD-generic or the AMD-k8 kernel stuffs?09:33
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concept10Any amule users?09:33
g1gamanDanielC, and how about swap?09:33
bigbill52ayou have to change the permissions on the file....give me a sec09:34
microhaxok09:34
DanielCDanielC: I'm under the impression that Ubuntu creates a swap partition for you automatically. It did for me, I think.09:34
bigbill52asudo nautilus09:34
bigbill52afind the file and right click on it09:35
DanielCDanielC: I think it's part of the 1.8 GB it's supposed to need (but don't quote me on this).09:35
DanielCheh09:35
g1gamanDanielC, you replied yourself, but thank you anyway :D09:35
wulfepuperr amd64-generic or amd64-k8 or etc etc  (I'm fairly sure it shouldn't be amd64-xeon (as I don't have a Xeon)) but what is amd64-k8-smp?09:35
DanielCg1gaman:  :-)  It's 3:40 AM for me.09:35
microhaxok09:35
microhaxohrm09:35
bigbill52aselect permissions tab and put a check in all the blanks09:35
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microhaxobill, sudo nautilus cannot be rec as a command?09:36
g1gamanDanielC, omg. here in latvia it's 10:40 am09:36
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DanielCWhistler: http://fatboy.umng.edu.co/debian/pool/main/t/tuxracer/09:36
bigbill52ain a terminal type sudo nautilus09:36
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bigbill52ait will bring up the file browser09:37
microhaxosudo: nautilus: command not found09:37
microhaxoim in kde09:37
bigbill52asudo konqueror09:37
microhaxok09:37
microhaxoim already in home folder09:37
microhaxoi can see permittions but i cant select any all greyed out09:37
bigbill52adid you sudo konqueror?09:38
microhaxoowner can read and write09:38
bigbill52ain a terminal window09:38
microhaxono i just opened konqueror09:38
bigbill52asudo konqueror in terminal window09:38
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microhaxoahh i see09:38
microhaxok i did09:38
microhaxonow add all checks09:38
bigbill52afiill all the blanks...lol09:38
microhaxok09:39
microhaxok i did09:39
microhaxo:D09:39
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microhaxonow what?09:39
bigbill52ain the same konqueror window09:39
microhaxoyea09:39
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bigbill52atools09:39
bigbill52aopen terminal09:39
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microhaxok09:39
microhaxodid that09:40
bigbill52a./fglrx*09:40
bigbill52aand give me any error messages09:40
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microhaxo./fglrx64-6-8-0_8.14.13-2_amd64.deb: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'09:40
microhaxo./fglrx64-6-8-0_8.14.13-2_amd64.deb: line 1: `!<arch>'09:40
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bigbill52ado you have amd-64?09:41
microhaxoyes09:41
microhaxo:D09:41
microhaxolol09:41
Chris-Would trying to install with a dvd burner be a possible cause for installs to fail often?09:41
umanhey all09:41
umanhow can I search through the apt-get repositories?09:41
umanis there a way09:41
umanlike portage -s (I'm a convert from Gentoo)09:42
bigbill52ayou need to use to download the headers for your kernel using synaptic09:42
Freshtennerhi all09:42
microhaxok, how would i do this?09:42
wulfepupwhat's the difference between the various amd64 kernels?  (what is k8 and and k8 SMP?)09:42
transgresshahahahaha gentoo's founder is going to redmond!  bet that'll calm the ricers down a bit.09:42
bigbill52asynaptic09:43
transgresssmp is for multiple processors09:43
bigbill52apackage manager09:43
microhaxowhere is this?09:43
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bigbill52afrom the same terminal type synaptic09:43
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microhaxobash: synaptic: command not found09:43
NicPlol09:43
bigbill52asudo synaptic....duh..lol09:44
wulfepuptransgress, TY  what's the diff between -generic and -k8?  ( I have an "Authentic AMD" according to my specs)09:44
transgressmicrohaxo: you don't have it because you have kubuntu09:44
microhaxoyea09:44
microhaxoi have KDE09:44
microhaxo:|09:44
microhaxowhats the kde one09:44
transgressk8 is for the k8 chip arch09:44
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NicPi didnt know there was a kde one?09:44
transgressgeneric is for a generic compilation09:44
transgressthe kde one is kynaptic09:44
microhaxo:D09:44
microhaxothanks09:44
wulfepupkynaptic  or something09:44
bigbill52akpackage09:44
NicPthat would make sense :D09:44
microhaxook09:44
microhaxoim in it09:44
microhaxo:D09:44
transgresskpackage is good... but you have to get it ... kynaptic comes base09:44
microhaxobill im in the manager now whaT?09:45
bigbill52aok09:45
wulfepuptransgress, how would I know which is better for my processor?09:45
bigbill52ajust a sec09:45
microhaxok09:45
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transgresswulfepup: get the most specific one you can... only use generic if you have to09:46
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Guerinuman: ask09:46
Guerinuman: don't piss off the people in #debian09:46
bigbill52ain search type headers09:46
umanGuerin: ok09:46
wulfepupnote to self: NEVER leave your soda can beside the laptop vents ... ewwwww warm soda.. hot can09:46
umanGuerin: I asked already09:46
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umanI'll repaste it...09:47
uman00:41 < uman> how can I search through the apt-get repositories?09:47
uman00:41 < uman> is there a way09:47
uman00:42 < uman> like portage -s (I'm a convert from Gentoo)09:47
Guerinuman: I just joined this channel to avert another flamewar in #debian09:47
microhaxobill there is no search :|09:47
bigbill52aand then match the headers with the actual kernel you using09:47
wulfepuptransgress, So, assuming a single Athlon AMD64 .. I should grab k8?09:47
umanGuerin: thanks09:47
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Guerinuman: apt-cache search; aptitude search; apt-get install apt-file09:47
microhaxofind09:47
microhaxoheaders09:47
microhaxok09:47
transgresswulfepup: yeah09:47
microhaxonow what?09:47
bigfoot1hi all. when I open up firefox, it doesn't start up with my profile. It seems to be loading as if it's is safe mode. can anyone help?09:47
Guerinuman: any real reason why the #ubuntu people can't answer this one?09:48
wulfepuptransgress, grwat thanks!09:48
umanGuerin: I have no idea09:48
NaloHello! Does php package come with Ubuntu 5.04?09:48
umanGuerin: but they aren't09:48
Guerinuman: sorry, that last directed to the whole channel09:48
bigbill52afind the headers that match up to your kernel09:48
transgressbigfoot1: kill any other instance of firefox09:48
wulfepupnalo... nope.. use synaptic09:48
umanGuerin: thanks for the info09:48
bigbill52ayou can verify your kernel by typing /boot in konqueror09:48
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microhaxoamd64 k8 wtf is k8?09:48
Nalosynaptic is an application manager, isn't it?09:48
Guerineh... you #ubuntu folks... don't you know how to use the package management tools?09:48
bigfoot1transgress, my comp was off. I just turned it on now. I don't think there are other instances of firefox. but i can check, to be sure. So how do i know if there are other instances of fx open?09:49
microhaxotransgress, what is SMP?09:49
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bigbill52athat is what you have k-809:49
wulfepupnalo .. it is the pretty and easy gui for apt-get09:49
microhaxok09:49
microhaxowhats smp bill?09:49
transgresssmp is for multiple processors09:49
Chris-isn't SMP multiple procs?09:49
pestilmicrohaxo, SMP is support for multiple CPUs09:49
microhaxoaight09:49
Chris-yeah, thought so09:49
Nalothank you very much... I only wanted to be sure09:49
transgressi so pwned you both09:49
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transgress;)09:49
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microhaxook so i clicked linux headers 2.6.10-5amd64-k809:50
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microhaxoinstall09:50
umanGuerin: so what is the deal with #debian? I'm sure that answer applies in both distros.09:50
bigbill52alook in /boot and see what kernel you have and then select the headers for it09:50
umanGuerin: correct me if I'm mistaken09:50
bigbill52ayes09:50
bigbill52ainstall09:50
bigfoot1transgress, ?09:50
jakuhi, where can I find a wiki to add the debian menu in the gnome panel?09:50
microhaxoerr how do i?09:50
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microhaxocommit changes09:51
microhaxoor update all packages?09:51
bigbill52ayyes09:51
bigbill52acommit changes09:51
microhaxok09:51
microhaxodloading09:51
microhaxofiles09:51
microhaxodone09:51
microhaxoits installin09:51
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bigbill52awhen it finishes...terminal sudo konqueror09:52
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bigfoot1I clicked on the firefox icon, but it loaded up as if i ran safe mode. how can i get firefox to load up as usual, with all my bookmarks, extensions, etc?09:52
microhaxok09:52
Chris--__- I think something is wrong with my dvd burner, I've downloaded so many versions of linux to install and it always says currupt09:52
bigbill52afind fglrx again09:52
bigbill52aopen terminal09:52
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bigbill52atype ./fglrx*09:52
bigbill52aand i will go for smoke....while you do that...lol09:52
microhaxoLol k09:52
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Chris-slow down bill ;-)09:53
zythhuh, cedega actually works fairly well.  Now for the litmus test, will WoW run09:53
microhaxodamn, its takin some time to set up these linux headers09:53
bigfoot1does anyone have some knowledge about firefox?09:53
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umanbigfoot1: a bit, why?09:54
bigfoot1uman, I clicked on the firefox icon, but it loaded up as if i ran safe mode. how can i get firefox to load up as usual, with all my bookmarks, extensions, etc?09:54
retrodickyeah...i'm back...09:55
microhaxoerr, is it ever going to get past this screen? setting up linux-headers-2.6.10-5-amd64-k8 (2.6.10-34.2)09:55
bigbill52aback09:55
umanbigfoot1: I dunno09:55
microhaxolol still says settin up09:55
microhaxo?09:55
bigbill52asomeday09:55
umanbigfoot1: sorry09:55
wulfepupI installed several FTP gui clients ... was there one that came with Gnome anyway that I missed .. or should I go hunting for the ones I apt-"got"09:55
bigfoot1uman, that's ok.09:55
microhaxoSetting up linux-headers-2.6.10-5-amd64-k8 (2.6.10-34.2) ...09:55
microhaxo:|09:55
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ubotuROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT has landed!09:55
chocoIatehi09:55
Chris-How long do ubuntu cd's usually take to arrive, I ordered one as my burner likes to make currupt cds09:55
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microhaxobigbill how long should this take?09:56
microhaxolol09:56
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umanbad! Using IRC as root! Bad!09:56
chocoIatethis really sucks. I'm connected as root, and i keep getting disconnected on almost all servers09:56
chocoIatewell, how do i make a new  user as a sudoer :o09:56
pestilChris-, about 6 weeks09:56
retrodicki have --> nvu-1.0PR-pc-linux2.6.10-gnu.tar.bz2, any one can help to install it?!!!09:56
wulfepupChris-, they take as long as it takes, plus time for shipping ;)09:56
umanchocoIate: with visudo09:56
umanchocoIate: and you can use "su -" to switch to root you know09:56
umanchocoIate: on a temporary basis09:56
zythAnyone know of any joypads that work well with Linux?09:56
Guerinuman: yeah, this one does happen to be the same, but there are many others which aren't.09:56
umanchocoIate: you don't need to run as root for day-to-day tasks09:57
umanGuerin: Yes, I know.09:57
Guerinuman: basically, it's a matter of opening floodgates.09:57
umanGuerin: that's why I clearly said "this is the same between Debian and Ubuntu."09:57
Chris-:-P Alright, I ordered mine on...... May 26? around then09:57
chocoIatei have created a new user, however i cant sudo with it09:57
umanchocoIate: use visudo09:57
chocoIatehow do i make it a sudoer account :o09:57
umanIIRC09:57
Guerinbut I am disappointed that the idiots in here don't know how to use their distro's own fucking package manager.09:57
SeveaschocoIate, adduser new_user admin09:57
umanVISUDO09:57
chocoIatewhat is visduo09:57
Seveasreplace new_user by the name of the user09:57
Seveasyou do not need visudo09:57
Guerinanyway09:58
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pestilGuerin, chill09:58
umanguerby: bye09:58
umanoops09:58
chocoIatesevas, the group admin does not exist, it says :o09:58
umanchocoIate: in that case, do what Seveas said09:58
umanchocoIate: or, do "man visudo" and read up on it.09:58
SeveaschocoIate, ah, you are using warty ur you upgraded from warty?09:59
chocoIateno, i'm using debian sarge :P09:59
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nernWARTY PENIS09:59
nernWARTY09:59
bob2nern: er?09:59
chocoIatei'm devoiced on #debian coz of this root user account lol09:59
Seveasnern, language...09:59
bob2chocoIate: so switch to a normal account and go there09:59
umanchocoIate: yeah Debian is psycho09:59
umanwow apparently this chan is too10:00
wulfepupnighters all10:00
umanP**** is not a swear word10:00
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chocoIatewell, i cant use sudo on a normal account, which is what i'm trying to fix right now10:00
umanchocoIate: you don't need sudo to use IRC10:00
kvidelluman: it's IRC. Of course it can be crazy :-P10:00
kvidelland uman: it's all about context.10:00
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SeveaschocoIate, use viso10:00
zythgack World of Warcraft takes forever to install10:00
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umankvidell: yeah I know10:00
Seveasvisudo*10:00
zythuman, IRC = Insane Relay Chat ;)10:00
umankvidell: flubberlock you all then!10:00
nerni love all of you10:00
vinuxhey can anyone tell me how to start up ubuntu just in command line mode but to be able to type something like startx to get into gnome when I want to?10:00
chocoIatei am unable to connect online without a sudo command10:00
nernive been doing drugs10:00
Seveasgo to the last line, hit o to go to edit mode and add the user10:00
nernand im so fucked up right now10:01
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kvidellthat's special.10:01
chocoIateit keeps basing me10:01
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umanchocoIate: what?10:01
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umanchocoIate: then something is seriously wrong with your system if you can't connect to the internet without sudo10:01
SeveaschocoIate, add this line:10:01
bob2vinux: delete gdm from run level 3 (sudo rm /etc/rc3.d/S*gdm), boot into runlevel 3 (hit esc during boot to get into grub, e to modify the boot parameters, add 3 to the end and continue booting10:01
Seveasuser ALL=(ALL) ALL10:02
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Seveasreplace user by your username10:02
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retrodickhey...anyone can help me?10:02
umanretrodick: that depends10:02
cyphasewith?10:02
Seveasretrodick, maybe, if you say what we can help you with10:02
umanretrodick: on how knowledgeable we are and how difficult your problem is.10:02
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retrodickhow to instal nvu-1.0PR-pc-linux2.6.10-gnu.tar.bz2 to my ubuntu10:02
vinuxbob2, cool thanks10:03
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cyphaseretrodick, nvu is in the repositories10:03
retrodickya...10:03
Seveasretrodick, if you don't want to use the repositories (you really should though): tar jxvf nvu-----.bz2 and read the README and INSTALL files...10:04
retrodicknope i mean...10:04
bigfoot1hello. in my firefox folder, i have 2 profiles. But when i run "firefox -profilemanager" it only shows one of them. How could i load up the other profile?10:04
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vinuxbob2, hehe wish me luck brb10:07
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Whistlerchecking for location of tclConfig.sh... configure: error: tclConfig.sh not found - use the --with-tcl option10:10
Whistlerwhats wrong?10:10
SeveasWhistler, that completely depends on what you are doing...10:10
Whistlerok10:10
Seveasso what are you doing?10:11
Whistlerhttp://pastebin.com/29973510:11
Whistlerlook here10:11
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Whistleri am trying to ./configure10:12
Seveastuxracer is in the repositories...10:12
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Whistler?10:12
Seveasah wait, you are trying to install ppracer10:12
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Whistlerit doesnt matter10:12
Whistleri wanna game10:13
Whistlerppracer10:13
Whistleror tux racer10:13
vinuxyou bob2 it works but I didn't put 3 to boot. If I don't would that be really bad?10:13
Whistlerits the same10:13
bob2vinux: I don't know what you mean10:13
bob2Whistler: so install tuxracer10:13
bob2Whistler: sudo aptitutde install tuxracer10:13
bigfoot1help. i was playing around with the  profiles.ini file in /.firefox and now firefox can't find my profile. if you have only one profile in use. could you copy and paste it please?10:13
Seveasyeah, tuxracer is the easiest to install10:14
Whistler?10:14
vinuxbob2, oh well I boot up fine in command line. then I just do startx to go into gnome fine. What was the add 3 for?10:14
Seveassudo aptitude install tuxracer10:14
bob2Whistler: you don't need to compile it10:14
Seveasand done :)10:14
Seveassudo aptitude install tuxkart10:14
Seveasand another game is installed :)10:14
Whistleroh10:14
Seveassudo aptitude install supertux10:14
Whistlercool10:14
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Whistlerthx10:14
Seveasand you have tux as super mario10:14
bob2vinux: to boot into runlevel 3.  either you deleted it from rc2, or you switched the default runlevel10:14
vinuxbob2, oh yea that's right I did switch it10:14
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retrodickSeveas: what should i do after i run the  tar jxvf command...10:15
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retrodickits extarct the nvu10:15
Seveasretrodick, read the INSTALL and README files, they will tell what to do10:15
bob2vinux: there's no reason to ever switch the default10:15
bigfoot1can anyone help me?10:15
retrodickthere is no readme or install10:15
Seveasretrodick, but why don't you use nvu from the ubuntu repositories?10:15
vinuxbob2, well is running in 3 ok? I mean it's not bad right?10:16
Seveasbigfoot1, maybe, if you say what we can help you with10:16
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retrodicki dont know if there is ubuntu repo.10:17
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bob2vinux: it's identical to 210:17
bob2or was unti lyou changed it10:17
Whistlerubuntu is so cool10:17
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vinuxbob2, k cool10:17
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retrodickhow can I get the repositories of nvu for ubuntu10:18
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paxorGuys, remind me of tail -f syslog ... how should it be used?10:19
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bob2just like that10:19
Seveaspaxor, just as you typed it :)10:19
paxork.10:19
bob2but if you want to leave it running, use --follow=name instead of -f10:19
paxorty, it's been 3 years.10:19
bigfoot1Seveas, i was playing around with the  profiles.ini file in /.firefox and now firefox can't find my profile. if you have only one profile in use. could you copy and paste it please?10:19
bob2(or it'll stop doing anything when the log file gets rotated at 0625 tommorow)10:19
paxorbob2, I remeber I used to use color logs ... where can I find that?10:20
Seveasbigbill52a, you mean my profiles.ini?10:20
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Seveasbigfoot1, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/7510:20
chicks_21hai10:21
bob2bigfoot1: in future, tho, you should back up things before touching them10:21
Seveasbigfoot1, you would need to change the path though :)10:21
bigfoot1bob2, yes, i was making a backup in gedit, but i saved the backup file with the same changes. oops.10:21
bigfoot1Seveas, okay. thanks.10:22
bob2paxor: multitail, it seems10:22
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NaloHow can I download the php package to install it without internet connection? if I use "apt-get install php4" ubuntu downloads the package from internet10:22
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SeveasNalo, if you just want to download: apt-get -d install libapache2-mod-php410:23
ukatois downloading from the repositories going slow for anyone?10:23
paxorSeveas, tail -f syslog tells me cannot open syslog for reading/no file remaining. does it need the path to syslog?10:23
Seveastail -f /var/log/systlog10:24
paxorahhh thank yous ir.10:24
paxorsir*10:24
Seveastail -f /var/log/syslog10:24
Seveaswithout the t :)10:24
paxorGotcha :)10:25
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paxorbob2, multitail is a script, right?10:25
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Hajuuheya10:25
bob2paxor: it's a package10:26
vinuxbob2, What's the best way to put everyting on CD where I don't have to download anything from the repositories? I have a friend that wants to install ubuntu but he has a bad interent connection. Anyway I could put all the programs on CDs for him?10:26
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Seveasvinux, do you have ubuntu installed?10:26
vinuxSeveas, yes I do10:26
paxorbob2, is it the one that shows logs with colors and stuff? excuse my ignorance.10:27
HajuuHow can I start/stop the sound server without restarting? and I mean start/stop the actual server.. not processes using it.10:27
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bob2paxor: I don't know10:27
Seveasvinux, use apt-zip10:27
bob2paxor: try it and see10:27
paxorK.10:27
goye2czhaldo!!!10:27
SeveasHajuu, killall esd10:27
bob2vinux: debian-cd can do that for you10:27
Seveasand just type esd to restart it10:27
Whistlerhow do i know my kernel version?10:28
HajuuI type esd to restart it and my terminal just idles there10:28
Seveasuname -r10:28
Whistleruname -r?10:28
vinuxbob2, what's debian-cd? You mean the debian cds?10:28
Seveasuname -a show more info than just kernel version10:28
Whistlerok10:28
bigfoot1Seveas, i don't think i know how to fix it up. when i do "firefox -profilemanager", it doesn't have my profile10:28
Whistler=] 10:28
SeveasWhistler, type that in a shell10:28
bob2vinux: no, I mean the package called "debian-cd"10:29
Whistleri know10:29
jakuhow can i install the debian menu in the gnome panel?10:29
bob2vinux: it generates apt'able cds from a pile of .debs10:29
Seveasjaku, you can use smeg for that10:29
vinuxSeveas, so you are saying download everything then zip it all?10:29
jakuSeveas: smeg?10:29
vinuxbob2, nice10:29
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Seveasvinux, read the manual page for apt-zip or debian-cd :)10:29
Seveasjaku, see www.realistanew.com10:29
synd--how to get rid of the terminal window?10:30
vinuxSeveas, hehe10:30
synd--as in the border..titlebar10:30
bob2depends on your window manager and terminal10:30
bob2devilspie presumably can do it10:30
vinuxSeveas, which would you prefer? apt-zip or debian-cd?10:30
synd--bob2, devilspie ?10:30
Seveassynd, for gnome/gnome terminal: hit the menu view->full screen10:30
bigfoot1Seveas, i fixed it up now, after some more changes. thank you.10:30
bigfoot18-)10:30
Seveasyw10:30
bob2synd--: apt-cache show ...10:30
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Seveasvinux, i have never used either, i just know they're there :)10:31
synd--bob2, Seveas: im in xfce, terminal10:31
ukatois apt going slow for anyone10:31
paxoris eterm still widely used?10:31
bob2not by people who use UTF-8 locales10:31
bob2e.g. hoary users10:31
kakaltoisn't 7200RPM meant to be fast for a hdd?10:31
bob2it's fast for a cheap IDE hard disk10:31
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kakaltohrm10:32
bob2scsi ones are up to 15000rpm10:32
Hajuukakalto:  average..10:32
NaloSeveas, and there is any way to download it from ftp or http?10:32
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Getis there any tool for convert ogg -> mp3?10:32
kakalto'cause it's taking a long time transferring to the ATA hdd, and it's taking almost all system resources10:32
kakaltoI can10:32
kakaltoarr10:32
kvidellaudacity.10:32
SeveasNalo, yes, go to packages.ubuntu.com and search for it10:32
kakaltoI can't even type smoothly in xchat10:32
Seveasyou will get download links too10:33
bob2kakalto: is dma enabled?10:33
kakaltodma?10:33
Nalook, I'll try... thanks a lot10:33
bob2indeed10:33
bob2kakalto: sudo hdparm /dev/hda10:33
benplautg'night everyone10:33
zythGet, yes, but why on earth would you deface your .ogg's like that?10:33
kakaltobob2, is it alright to do that while copying something to the hdd?10:33
sniffgn8 @ this time?10:33
Getzyth, need it for a mp3-player ;)10:34
kakaltosniff, not everyone lives in your timezone10:34
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zythGet, ahh.  Yeah, I have a Zen Xtra I need to sell, because it's dumb and won't play .ogg :(10:34
synd--bob2, phillip@toshiba:~$ devilspie || File /home/phillip/.devilspie.xml does not exist10:35
synd--what am i doing wrong?10:35
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kakaltobob2, what am I looking for? dma isn't enabled10:35
Seveashdparm -d1 /dev/hda10:35
bob2synd--: did you read the instructions?10:35
bigfoot1another firefox question, i run an extension that gives a real full-screen (no status bar, toolbars). Is there a way to have the URL displayed when the mouse is hovering over a hyperlink?10:35
synd--bob2, i did man devilspie, didnt say much10:36
zythGet, did you try playing it in xmms with the disk writer plugin? I think it may work.  Not sure tho10:36
bob2bigfoot1: there's another extension for that10:36
Seveasbigbill52a, you could use greasemonkey for that10:36
kakaltoSeveas, operation not permitted10:36
Seveasbigfoot1*10:36
bigfoot1really? do tell.10:36
Seveaskakalto, use sudo :)10:36
bigfoot1i have greasemonkey, but which script?10:36
kakaltoI already did10:36
kakaltoand operation is still not permitted10:36
Seveaskakalto, then you need to modprobe the correct driver for your IDE chipset10:37
bob2bigfoot1: don't know10:37
bob2the tooltip normally displays the alt tag, not the href10:37
bob2er, attribute10:37
kakaltoSeveas, that went straight over my head10:37
Seveasbigfoot1, find one on the greasemonkey website or make  one yourself :)10:37
bigfoot1seveas, so what i am looking for is "href", right?10:37
bigfoot1href is the keyword when i do my search, right, Seveas ?10:38
Seveasbigfoot1, an extension that displays the href attribute of a link when you hover over it instead of the title argument...10:38
kvidellor alt10:38
bob2ah, title, not alt, duh me10:38
bigfoot1gotcha, Seveas10:38
kvidelloh wait.. alt is for img10:38
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Seveas:)10:39
kakaltoSeveas, how do I "modprobe the correct driver for my IDE chipset"?10:39
Seveaskakalto, dunno, depends on which motherboard you have10:39
zythhow do I add games to my games menu? Pingus, Supertux, and Tuxracer were all evil and didn't add themselves to my menus10:39
kakaltoA7V60010:39
kakalto:P10:39
Seveaskakalto, wiki.ubunutu.com/DMA10:39
Seveaskakalto, wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA10:39
Seveaszyth, use smeg10:39
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zythsmeg?10:40
Seveasfrom www.realistanew.com or the backport repositories10:40
zythwhat is it?10:40
SeveasSimple Menu Editor for Gnome10:40
Seveas(but it supports KDE too, since it actually is a freedesktop.org menu editor)10:41
kunterbunthey there, can anybody advice me on distros for newbies? is ubuntu suitable?10:41
zythhm, I have backports, but I don't see it in synaptic.10:41
Seveaskunterbunt, very10:41
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kunterbuntSeveas, why so? what about mandrake and fedora?10:41
Seveaszyth, it's in hoary-backports10:41
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Seveaskunterbunt, fedora is pure crap, honest10:41
Seveasand mandrake / mandriva is not much better10:42
Seveasthey're definitely not suitable for beginners10:42
kunterbuntSeveas, ok but why do you think so? what is the problem with those?10:42
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zythhttp://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/hoary-extras ?10:42
Seveaskunterbunt, well as biggest objection they use rpms10:42
Seveasthey are slow in updating10:43
Seveasdon't have good defaults10:43
Seveasare not 'just works' like ubuntu10:43
Seveasand escpecially red crap / fedora is as incompatible as hell10:43
kunterbuntSeveas, what's wrong with rpms?10:43
Seveaszyth, hoary-backports10:43
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Seveaskunterbunt, rpms are a very inferior format compared to .deb files10:44
kunterbuntSeveas, but ubuntu updates every six months, so does fc10:44
zythgot the deb10:44
Seveasand apt beats rpm hell :)10:44
bob2well, not that inferior10:44
bob2it's just that they don't have Debian Policy to guide them10:44
kunterbuntSeveas, that is what I heard about yum, but why is apt-get so much better?10:44
Seveasbob2, is there something like debhelper for rpm?10:44
zythdpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of smeg:10:44
zyth smeg depends on python-xdg (>= 0.14); however:10:44
zyth  Version of python-xdg on system is 0.9-1.10:44
zythugh10:44
Seveasapt-get is not that much better10:45
Seveasaptitude is though :)10:45
Seveasor synaptic10:45
bob2zyth: how did you manage to get that?10:45
Seveaszyth, these are also in hoary-backports10:45
bob2Seveas: .spec files are way less freeform and simpler than debian/rules10:45
zythbob2, tried to install smeg.10:45
bob2go backports, its your birthday10:45
Seveasbob2, ack10:45
zythSeveas, great, what's the repository line?10:45
Seveasbut debian/rules is more powerful :)10:45
Seveaszyth, look at backports.ubuntuforums.org/url.php10:46
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bob2I wish Amaranth would just host smeg somewhere else10:46
kunterbuntSeveas, so newest ubuntu is 5.04? how old is that release?10:46
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bob2and make it work on hoary10:46
antiwmaci got kernel panic when trying to install ubuntu on vmware10:46
bob2kunterbunt: from april10:46
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Seveasbob2, heh :)10:46
bob2kunterbunt: 5.04 = 2005-0410:47
antiwmackernel-panic -not synring10:47
bob2antiwmac: talk to the vmware people10:47
zythI already HAVE a synpatic entry for ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net10:47
zythoh hm10:47
Seveaszyth, with hoary-extras or hoary-backports?10:47
Seveasthese are 2 separate things10:47
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kunterbuntbob2, i am really not sure what distro to go for or what to look for. fc4 is supposed to be really fast10:47
bob2kunterbunt: I really really doubt it's "faster" in a useful way than ubuntu10:48
kunterbuntbob2, also why doesn't ubuntu have root?10:48
Whistlercan anybody help me with ati drivers?10:48
bob2kunterbunt: everyone is using the same compiler and code10:48
Seveaskunterbunt: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo10:48
zythSeveas, yeah ok I see that now :)10:48
bob2kunterbunt: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo10:48
kunterbuntbob2, ubuntu has gcc 410:48
Seveasbasiclly, because it's safer without a root password10:48
bob2kunterbunt: hoary is built with gcc 3.310:48
microhaxoCan someone send me the sources.list for the kubutu amd64 stro?10:48
bob2microhaxo: run apt-setup10:48
sam2i just got started using ubuntu and i am wondering how you are supposed to get started with using whatever software that you install with apt-get10:49
kakaltoSeveas, that just says how to use hdparm... nothing about "modprobing the correct driver for my IDE chipset"10:49
Whistlerhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&highlight=dma i dont understand the 3rd step10:49
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Whistlerwhat shoul i edit in that file10:49
[v2hja] hi10:49
Whistlerwhat should i edit in that file10:49
Juhazfedora is a good distro, and so is hoary, why don't you try both and see what you like best?10:49
kunterbuntbob2, can i update to gccc 4.0?10:49
kunterbuntJuhaz, problem is that i don't really know what i am looking for in a good distro. that is why i am trying to get some ideas here10:50
xydineshjuhaz:debian sarge is also perfect10:50
[v2hja] where can i look whant kernel version i have ????10:50
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kunterbunti wanna know what makes them better10:50
maggcc 4.0 is sloooow10:50
Seveas[v2hja] , uname -r10:50
bob2kunterbunt: hoary includes gcc 4.0, but was not built with it10:50
magi don't know why10:50
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Whistlercan anybody help me with ati drivers?10:50
kunterbuntbob2, why do i care what it was built with?10:50
[v2hja] Seveas,10:50
[v2hja] thx10:50
bob2kunterbunt: I don't know10:50
bob2kunterbunt: why do you care?10:51
[v2hja] http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557 according to this10:51
bob2Whistler: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto10:51
bob2Whistler: follow that10:51
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Seveas[v2hja] , you too10:51
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Seveasdo not follow random instructions on the forums10:51
[v2hja] $ sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-386 xorg-driver-fglrx IS this the right command then ??????10:51
Seveasuse the wikipage10:52
[v2hja] Seveas,10:52
[v2hja] it didnt work10:52
bob2[v2hja] :  wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto10:52
kunterbuntbob2, if i wanna comile s.th. it matters what compiler i have no? not what was used to compile my distro10:52
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[v2hja] bob2, it wont work10:52
zythSeveas, do I want main, multiverse, restricted, etc? or what10:52
bob2[v2hja] : "wont"? why?10:52
[v2hja] dunno10:52
[v2hja] i am a n00b10:52
Seveaskunterbunt, well, C++ applications you compile with gcc4 will not cooperate with libraries provided by ubuntu10:52
bob2[v2hja] : er, so why don'y you just follow them?10:52
Seveassince gcc4 introduces an abi change for c++10:52
[v2hja] i get that error that the writer says ..... but the fix wont do anything10:53
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microhaxoGuys i dont have my kernel headers and i cannot COMPLETE MY ATI DRIVER SETUP PLZ HELP ME!10:53
Seveasmicrohaxo, relax...10:53
kunterbuntSeveas, is gcc 4.0 really that much faster anyway?10:53
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Seveasmicrohaxo: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto10:53
microhaxolol i have been working at this for like 5 hrs10:53
bob2kunterbunt: no10:53
microhaxoseveas dont work..10:53
Seveaskunterbunt, ENOIDEA10:53
poningruis there a common bug in the laptop mode where if you close the screen it goes into the locked screen and wont wake up?10:54
bob2poningru: no10:54
[v2hja] Note If you are having problems related to DRI or 3d acceleration and the following lines show up in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log ----(WW) fglrx(0): Kernel Module version does *not* match driver.----------------(EE) fglrx(0): incompatible kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will not work ----then make sure you have linux-restricted-modules installed for your kernel (type sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)).10:54
[v2hja] this wont do dang10:54
kunterbuntbob2, how long have you guys been using ubuntu?10:54
poningrudo you know if this has happend to people?10:54
bob2kunterbunt: may last year10:54
Seveas[v2hja] , are you on intel or amd?10:54
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bob2poningru: if it did, they would have reported it in the BTS (http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/)10:54
[v2hja] intel10:54
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bob2kunterbunt: and debian for 4 years before that10:54
[v2hja] and 9800pro10:55
poningruright10:55
bob2[v2hja] : can you please just follow the instructions?10:55
poningruanyone know a fix to it?10:55
Seveas[v2hja] , sudo aptitude install linux-686 xorg-driver-fglrx10:55
[v2hja] bob2,10:55
bob2poningru: that would be in the bts, too, if there was one10:55
zythbackports added causes me to apparently have 29 updates to do - Do I WANT to do this?10:55
bob2zyth: no10:55
poningruheh ok thanks10:55
Seveaszyth, depends on your taste. I would say: no10:55
zythbob2, ok, I'll remove backports now that smeg is installed10:55
zyththanks10:55
bob2good way to go10:55
[v2hja] Seveas, ------ is that updater ?10:56
kunterbuntbob2, so why the switch from debian to ubuntu? after 4years you shouldn't need user friendly ness? no?10:56
poningruwho maintains buc?10:56
poningruor BTS10:56
bob2[v2hja] : why don't you just follow the instructions?10:56
poningruwhat does BTS stand for?10:56
bob2poningru: bug tracking system10:56
[v2hja] bob2,10:56
[v2hja] i did10:56
bob2[v2hja] : and?10:56
Seveasponingru, bugzilla.ubuntu.com is the url for the bts10:56
bob2kunterbunt: heh, I was working with the ubuntu guys, and they wanted testers before it went public10:57
[v2hja] and it gives and errir that is said there10:57
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[v2hja] but the fix wont work10:57
[v2hja] beacause its allready updated10:57
bob2[v2hja] : so, run 'sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)'10:57
bob2[v2hja] : awesome10:57
bob2[v2hja] : now, reboot10:57
paxoffsecond time ubuntu freezes since I installed it (about 4 hours) :(10:57
[v2hja] i have allready rebooteb twice10:57
Seveaspaxoff, that's not good10:57
kunterbuntbob2, oh cool and now you like it better, huh. ok that must mean something.  I guess i'll give it a try. where can i find out what packages it comes with?10:58
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Seveas[v2hja] , do you have fglrx in /etc/modules?10:58
bob2kunterbunt: no, I use both still10:58
paxoffSeveas, what could it be?10:58
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microhaxoaight10:58
[v2hja] bob2,10:58
[v2hja] linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-386 is already the newest version.10:58
[v2hja] 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.10:58
Seveaspaxoff, how would i know, i can't look inside your computer :)10:58
paxoffhehe10:58
microhaxosomeone please walk me through installing ATI DRIVERS, i have followed EVERYTHING, but somthing is wrong wih my linux10:58
microhaxolol10:58
paxoffI mean maybe hardware?10:58
Seveaspaxoff, look at /var/log/syslog /var/log/kern.log /var/log/emerg.log for clues10:58
paxoffk10:59
kunterbuntbob2, do you also hate fedora like Seveas?10:59
bob2kunterbunt: I don't hate it, but I see no reaso nto use it10:59
k31th_guys10:59
Seveasmicrohaxo, install linux-686 (linux-k7 if you're on amd) and xorg-driver-fglrx, add fglrx to your /etc/modules, change xorg.conf and reboot10:59
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bob2microhaxo: you need to explain what the actual problem is10:59
zythugh world of warcraft takes forever to install.10:59
k31th_i got this issue this Linux box crashes on shutdown on eth010:59
k31th_where would it log it to ?10:59
microhaxoProblem is, i keep getting errors10:59
bob2[v2hja] : what does 'lsmod | grep fgl" print out?10:59
microhaxoErrors were encountered while processing:11:00
microhaxo /var/cache/apt/archives/xorg-driver-fglrx_6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu11_amd64.deb11:00
microhaxoE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (111:00
Seveashmm, amd6411:00
bob2microhaxo: that's not the error, scroll up11:00
[v2hja] bob2,  fglrx                 229568  011:00
zythmicrohaxo, do you have an AMD64?11:00
microhaxoYes i do11:00
bob2microhaxo: also, paste in #flood, not here11:00
microhaxolol11:00
microhaxok11:00
microhaxothat is an error11:00
[v2hja] Seveas, ... there is no /etc/modules11:01
microhaxolook in #flood11:01
[v2hja] not in nautilus11:01
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bob2[v2hja] : don't use nautilus then11:01
Seveas[v2hja] , there is...11:01
bob2microhaxo: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood11:01
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microhaxok11:01
bob2actually, don't bother, fglrx64-6-8-0 was never in ubuntu11:02
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bob2kunterbunt: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/11:02
[v2hja] Seveas,11:02
[v2hja] i looked for a folder :D11:03
[v2hja] the last two lines are fglrx11:03
kunterbuntbob2, thanks!!11:03
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[v2hja] Seveas,  does that help ?11:04
bob2microhaxo: get rid of the fglrx64-6-8-0 package11:04
microhaxocheck it11:04
microhaxobob2 check flood11:04
microhaxoi pasted it11:04
microhaxok11:04
bob2and don't alien drivers again in future11:04
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microhaxoerr, waht do i search under in filemanager to remove that?11:05
microhaxofound it11:05
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[v2hja] anyone ?11:05
microhaxok bob2 its gone11:05
microhaxonow what?11:05
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MemorexMoin, is it possible to use Debian/Sarge in Ubuntu?11:06
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lessshastehi... just started up the ubuntu live cd and it fails to recognise my serial mouse configuring it as ps/2 instead!!11:06
lessshasteWhat can I do ?11:06
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zythgack11:07
lessshaste(hoary)11:07
zythall that to install WoW and my @#$@# account is out of TIME11:07
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paxor3rd time, Seveas .. is there a logviewer in KDE?11:07
[v2hja] bob2, or Seveas11:07
goye2czhow do I do a command to search for a file?11:08
Memorexfind11:08
lessshastehow do I switch the mouse to serial?11:08
goye2czin a terminal11:08
Memorexfind / -name "filename"11:08
goye2czthanks11:08
lessshastegoldfish, locate11:08
microhaxoSomeone please help me install ati drivers, no matter what i get an error..11:08
lessshasteoop... goye2cz11:09
lessshastemicrohaxo, #ati ?11:09
microhaxono one talks11:09
microhaxolol11:09
lessshastewell.. given that no one will help me with my mouse :)11:09
microhaxoerr11:09
microhaxoi have no idea, i just installed linux today11:10
microhaxolol11:10
Memorexmicrohaxo: I dont know but it could help http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html11:10
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kunterbuntbob2, what is universe?11:10
bob2microhaxo: now follow the instructions again11:10
Memorexwell, my question again: is it possible and safe to mix Ubuntu and Debian/Sarge11:10
bob2Memorex: no, don't do it11:10
bob2kunterbunt: the unsupported section of the ubuntu archive11:11
kunterbuntbob2, oh thanks11:11
bob2equivalent to all of the fedora archive, aiui11:11
[v2hja] bob2, ..... where can i look what went wrong ,,,,, cuz ut2004 kills it self after 5sec on launch and glx geast gets 36111:12
microhaxobob2, i did waht you said, how can i install ati drivers now?11:12
kunterbuntDoes ubuntu also have this mp3 restriction fedora has?11:12
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bob2microhaxo: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto11:12
bob2read that again11:12
bob2and don't install random rpms on your system in future11:12
bob2kunterbunt: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats11:12
microhaxoi did, i keep getting this %$@% error11:12
bob2microhaxo: no, you didn't11:13
bob2assuming you removed the package I told you to11:13
goye2czI'm thinking jack shouldn't be that complicated to use. Am I wrong?11:13
goye2czwith qjackctl11:14
[v2hja] bob2 at least tell me if you are going to ignore me11:14
bob2[v2hja] : ffs11:14
bob2[v2hja] : you're being too vague for anyone to help you, sorry11:14
bob2perhaps someone could extract the information from you, but I'm not going to try, sorry11:14
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bob2[v2hja] : try asking on the mailing list, perhaps11:15
[v2hja] obscure: not clearly understood or expressed11:15
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[v2hja] w00t11:15
[v2hja] havent got that before11:15
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mirkash Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)11:20
mirkashE: Unable to lock the list directory11:20
bob2you have apt running somewhere else11:20
bob2or it crashed or got killed very harshly11:20
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microhaxoi dont get this11:21
microhaxoi did waht is on the wiki, i still cant install this DAMN ati driver, glxgears shows 144 fps11:21
microhaxo:|11:21
bob2so11:21
bob2did you get an error?11:21
microhaxoif i use the old11:22
microhaxosudo apt-get install fglrx-driver11:22
microhaxono error11:22
microhaxoif i use new 5.04 deal11:22
microhaxothen i get error11:22
microhaxothis = error sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx11:22
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microhaxoHowever none of them give me the drivers installed lol11:23
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bob2no11:23
bob2you need to show us the actual error11:23
bob2not some summary of it11:23
microhaxok hrm11:23
bob2paste the full output to #flood11:23
microhaxono error now :|11:24
microhaxobut11:24
microhaxothe drivers are not installed?11:24
[v2hja] wft ........ some command someone gave me here REMOVED windows from grub11:24
bob2[v2hja] : don't run commands you don't understand11:24
bob2(also, that's very unlikely)11:24
bob2Memorex: yes11:25
microhaxobob2, i posted what is goin on in #flood, no error it seems but the drivers are not installed.11:25
[v2hja] they where copyend and pasted from here11:25
[v2hja] i guess that might be thad upgrade command11:25
bob2microhaxo: yes, they are installed11:25
microhaxowhy do i get 144 FPS IN glxgears then?!11:25
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microhaxoshould be gettin 400011:25
microhaxoi get 144fps in CSS!11:26
bob2I have no idea11:26
bob2I'd assume because you didn't set it up right11:26
microhaxothat means the drivers ant installed11:26
microhaxo...11:26
bob2no, it doesn't11:26
bob2you can prove the drivers are installed, if you like11:26
microhaxoAHAH11:26
microhaxoi did11:26
bob2find /lib/modules/$(uname -r) | grep fgl11:26
microhaxothey ant installed11:26
bob2wtf11:26
microhaxolook at #flood11:26
microhaxomesa11:27
bob2no11:27
microhaxonot ati11:27
bob2dude11:27
microhaxomesa are original drivers11:27
bob2that means you didn't edit the X config to tell it to use ati drivers11:27
microhaxoyes i did11:27
microhaxothe xorg config11:27
bob2really?11:27
bob2paste that file to #flood11:27
microhaxok11:27
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bob2microhaxo: use a better irc client11:28
microhaxowth11:28
microhaxoim usin konversation11:28
microhaxocame with kubuntu11:28
microhaxolol11:28
bob2konversation is apparently crap11:28
microhaxoLol11:28
bob2use xchat or irssi-text11:28
microhaxoi guess11:28
microhaxoanywho check flood11:29
bob2you pasted 5 lines11:29
[v2hja] bob2, ... how can i get windows back to grub11:29
bob2then your irc client got kicked off the network11:29
microhaxowhere you unable to read it?11:29
bob2useful irc clients pace it so you don't get kicked off11:29
microhaxoLOL11:29
microhaxohrm11:29
bob2you only pasted 5 lines11:29
microhaxocan i pm you it?11:29
bob2no, that won't help11:29
bob2put it on the web or something11:30
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microhaxoahh shit11:30
microhaxodid it paste more than 5?11:30
bob2no11:30
microhaxoHRM11:30
microhaxoweb it is11:30
bob2also, kate is doing terrible things to your files11:30
microhaxoto me?!11:30
microhaxowho is katE?11:31
bob2look at what you're pasting11:31
bob2your files don't really have html in them11:31
microhaxolol11:31
microhaxoyea11:31
microhaxoeh11:31
microhaxothats my viewer11:31
microhaxotxt editor11:31
microhaxowhat is a site to paste code n stuff?11:31
[v2hja] topic in #flood11:32
[v2hja] look at it :D11:32
microhaxohttp://rafb.net/paste/results/drsHFG89.html11:33
microhaxothere11:33
[v2hja] Driver"ati"11:33
[v2hja] wrong11:33
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microhaxoBah11:33
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microhaxowhat is it then11:33
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microhaxofglrx11:33
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[v2hja] Driver"fglrx"11:34
[v2hja] right11:34
bob2microhaxo: the instructions do explain all this...11:34
microhaxok i saved it.11:35
microhaxostill11:35
microhaxonow what?11:35
bob2now read the instructions again11:35
[v2hja] restart X11:35
microhaxomk11:35
microhaxobrb11:35
[v2hja] ctrl alt backspace11:35
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[v2hja] bob2,11:35
[v2hja] how can i reinstall grub11:36
[v2hja] it is phked up11:36
bob2you don't need to reinstall grub11:36
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bob2if windows isn't in the list anymore, it's because you broke the menu.lst11:36
bob2just fix it11:36
[v2hja] i have no idea how to to this11:36
[v2hja] some command ?11:37
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[v2hja] 3 hours in ubuntu ..... and allready phked up11:37
bob2I have no idea what you did to it11:37
bob2by default it works fine11:37
bob2you need to remember what you did to break it11:37
Guerin[v2hja] : and there's also a really, really clear example in menu.list11:38
[v2hja] how can i get it back to deafult ?11:38
[v2hja] where is menu.list ?11:38
Guerin[v2hja] : /boot/grub/11:38
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[v2hja] :S11:40
[v2hja] the file is emty11:40
kvidellisn't it .lst?11:40
bob2yes11:40
holycowwho here was telling me about inkscape from cvs?11:41
[v2hja] yes11:41
[v2hja] found it11:41
kvidelldepends.. are you happy with them or upset with them? ;)11:41
[v2hja] ubuntu is twice there11:41
[v2hja] 4 times really11:41
_root_when trying to unpack a tar.gz while running rescue, it fails,can't exec gzip11:41
[v2hja] 2 + 211:41
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microhaxothis is some bs..11:42
kvidellhm?d11:42
kvidellplus or mins the d11:42
kvidellminus11:42
kvidellchrist11:42
microhaxoNow kde wont even start11:42
microhaxoWTF11:42
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bob2_root_: what are you trying to do?11:43
microhaxowhat the hell bob2, now its a BLACK screen, KDE wont even show...11:43
microhaxowhat do i do?11:43
bob2I don't know, we can't tell what you've done11:44
microhaxoyou know what i did11:44
microhaxoi REPLACED DRIVER "ati" with fglrx11:45
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microhaxoin the conf file11:45
bob2you told us you'd done that before, tho11:45
microhaxoall i did was replace ati with fglrx11:45
microhaxoand then kde wouldnt work any more11:46
microhaxohow do i get kde back working11:46
microhaxo?!11:46
bob2it has nothing to do with kde11:46
microhaxo?11:46
microhaxothen why the hell wont it load, its just a black screen11:46
bob2?11:46
kvidelluh... put the old driver back?11:46
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microhaxohow?11:46
kvidellbecause you destroyed your drivers :)11:46
bob2because X presumably isn't loading11:46
kvidellthe opposite of what you did before?11:46
microhaxoi cant get into kde11:46
_root_bob2 : i went to rescue mode and chrooted and tried to uncompress a tar.gz file11:47
microhaxoi dont know how to do shit command11:47
kvidellyou did keep track of your steps so you could reverse engineer your way out of a bubble right?11:47
kvidellah11:47
bob2_root_: why?11:47
kvidellno CLUE11:47
microhaxobah11:47
kvidell(command line user experience)11:47
bob2come on people11:47
microhaxoill pico the xorg.conf file11:47
microhaxothats the file it was in right11:47
microhaxoi think i forgot11:47
microhaxolol11:47
bob2microhaxo: login as your user, then edit the config file with nano11:47
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microhaxonano11:47
microhaxoso11:47
_root_bob2 : i've got an important file in my home directory and i want to uncompress it11:47
microhaxosudo nano xorg.conf11:48
bob2_root_: so boot into your noral system11:48
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Guerin_root_: man chroot?11:48
Guerin_root_: notwithstanding bob2's eminently reasonable suggestion11:48
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_root_Guerin : i booted in rescue and chrooted then only i tried to run gzip11:49
Guerin_root_: did you make sure everything was mounted where you expect?11:49
_root_yes11:50
_root_Guerin : yes11:50
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Guerin_root_: what... you can ls -l /bin/gzip, but not run it?11:50
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_root_Guerin : yes11:53
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kvidellIt makes me nervous that he quit from a connection problem.11:53
ilucivhi I just installed a new kernel on my knoppmyth box need help editing lilo to boot new kernel anyone??11:53
Guerin_root_: what happen when you try to run it?11:54
gallonegrohow do add programs to applications11:54
gallonegrolike k3b and zsnes with using command11:54
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_root_Guerin: its not exectutable11:55
kvidelliluciv: I'm not going to tell you to leave but I will tell you that this room is in almost in no way related to any of those things, so you may find it difficult to get help on that here.. I sadly have not used Lilo in years otherwise I ~would~ help you, though :-\ Best I can say is google for an example lilo.conf and always remember to run "lilo" after making changes before rebooting.11:55
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Nermalis there an ubuntu channel not for n00bs ?11:55
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Guerin_root_: no x bit set? What options did you mount / with?11:55
GuerinNermal: haha11:55
kvidellNermal: #ubuntu-dev ?11:55
Nermalrightho11:55
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kvidellor the #ubuntuforums I guess11:55
microhaxoamazing11:55
microhaxoi fixed it by my self11:56
microhaxomuhaha11:56
microhaxook11:56
microhaxoit was the Driver "fglrx"11:56
microhaxothat was problem11:56
ilucivok I am presently on a ubuntu box if thats any thing11:56
iluciv:)11:56
microhaxoSo11:56
microhaxobob211:56
microhaxoi know that if i change driver ati to fglrx it will not load kde11:56
microhaxoso11:56
microhaxowtf11:56
microhaxolol11:56
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Guerinmicrohaxo: so where's the problem... use the one which works.11:57
Memorexfglrx is your problem11:57
Nermalmicrohaxo, on the plus side, your enter key appears to work fine11:57
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kvidellwell.. it's not that KDE wouldn't load... your video driver blew chunks all over the place when you changed it so NOTHING graphical loaded.11:57
microhaxolol11:58
microhaxoyea11:58
microhaxoso11:58
microhaxowhat does that mean?11:58
kvidellYou may not have selected the perfect driver for your device? I donno11:58
Nermalit means stop writing one or two meaningless words on a line11:58
microhaxo:|11:58
Nermallike "lol, yea, so"11:58
kvidellI'm using a stock ati kernel module because I'm not gaming on this thing..11:58
microhaxook, so yea11:58
microhaxoi want the best video drivers.11:59
kvidell(ish my dev laptop I do NFS mounts to my code boxes with to do on-the-road-code and webdev goodies)11:59
Nermaluse windows ?11:59
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Nermalor nvidia11:59
kvidellor mac. *throws gay-pride apples at Nermal*11:59
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Nermal:D11:59
microhaxoi have windows11:59
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microhaxoand a x800xt11:59
sam2xchat should have a filter for removing lines that simply say "lol"11:59
=== Nermal right clicks kvidell
microhaxoworks PERFECT11:59
microhaxo:D11:59
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Wingsello, I have an old laptop I out ubuntu on, and it's got a D-Link DE-660 network card, anybody got any idea how to get it running?12:00
kvidellhey... I'm using a logitech 3 button mouse with a wheel on my mac :-P12:00
Nermalsam2, I find /ignore <llama> ALL works well12:00
kvidellmy dual-optical pwnership12:00
NermalWings, pcmcia ?12:00
Wingsit doesn't say that on the actual card12:00
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NermalWings, should work with pcnet_cs12:01
Nermalaccording to http://www.fdlinux.com/networkcompat.html12:01
Nermalso it should work out of the box12:01
sam2Nermal, a bit drastic, but it works too.12:01
Wingsthat's odd12:02
WingsI plugged it in, and it couldn't connect12:02
Nermalhum..12:02
Wingsdoes ubuntu come with pcnet_cs.o ?12:02
Nermalany dmesg output or ifconfig output12:02
NermalWings, of course12:02
Wingsjust checking12:02
kvidellJust hit it with a stick until it works. *shrugs*12:04
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Wings:-/12:04
NermalI wish I could do that to the benefit scum in the uk12:04
Guerin...12:05
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kvidellthat's what brummies are for. just swat at them and they make noise.12:05
pepsianyone using breezy?12:05
kvidellnot I.12:06
kvidell:-\ not anymore anyway.12:06
Nermalme at home12:06
kvidellI'm goin' ta bed12:06
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ilucivok anyone good with vi12:06
pepsiNermal, do usb flash drives work for you?12:06
Nermalpepsi, erm.. not tried.. but I would have thought so12:06
Guybrush|Numbiluciv: what do you mean with good ?12:06
Nermalactually.. yes they do12:06
pepsiboo12:06
ilucivI need to find a particular line in a file in vi (text editor)12:07
Nermalnot you ?12:07
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NermalIlta, /search expression12:07
Nermaliluciv, even12:07
xydineshiluciv:try /12:07
pepsinope12:07
Nermaliluciv: or :<line number>12:07
kvidelllike.... /poo12:07
kvidell:set nu12:07
pepsii cant mount em12:07
Nermalpepsi, dmesg output12:07
ilucivk thanks12:07
Nermalhum12:07
NermalI've not updated for a few weeks mind12:07
kvidellanywho. detatching screen now12:07
Nermalcya kvidell12:07
xydineshiluciv:G <line number>12:08
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scanwinderwhat is a TV tuner card called in /dev ?..........when i run scantv it says it cant find /dev/vbi..........12:09
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Nermalscanwinder, usually /dev/video012:10
Nermalbut the vbi bit is something else12:10
pepsiNermal, http://pastebin.com/29977012:10
Nermalmaybe the i2c bit banging interface needed by some vlc cards12:10
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scanwinderoh........what can i do 2 fix the error then?12:11
pepsiit sees the device, but wont mount it12:11
Nermalpepsi, what does sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt give you ?12:11
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pepsiNermal, my flash drive :)12:12
holycowmake: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  <-- i get this error when trying to compile a package... that means in need to config the make file, correct?12:12
Nermalpepsi, it worked ?12:12
holycowoh no make file found nm12:12
holycowheh12:12
pepsiyeah12:12
Nermalholycow, try running ./configure first12:12
pepsibut clicking the usb0 icon in Computer yells at me12:13
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pepsiwhatever.. i can mount it myself12:13
microhaxook12:13
microhaxowell12:13
holycowNermal, *nod* again i guess12:13
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microhaxoits DEFINATELY the ATI to fglrx driver name deal, does this mean that the drivers default with kubuntu are bad and that i need ati's driers?12:13
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holycowah i see, more dependencies >_<12:15
holycowthanks Nermal12:15
Nermalnp :|12:15
Nermalholycow, what package is it ?12:15
jindHm, I have a strange behaviour here. A browser (Opera) sometimes suddenly exits. Have only seen this behaviour in Ubuntu. Any idea why?12:16
microhaxoSOO, someone help meh12:16
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xydineshyes, micro Ill try12:16
microhaxok :D12:16
xydinesh:D12:16
microhaxoi have had a MAJOr problem installing ATI drivers12:16
microhaxomajor12:16
Nermalxydinesh, a braver man than me12:16
microhaxolike 6 hours of trying12:16
Seveasmicrohaxo, you want a working xorg.conf?12:17
microhaxomine works12:17
Seveasi can give you mine (it works)12:17
xydinesh:D not at all12:17
microhaxobut12:17
microhaxoif i change driver from12:17
microhaxo"Ati"12:17
microhaxoto12:17
microhaxoFglrx12:17
microhaxoi get black screen12:17
microhaxo:|12:17
holycowNermal, trying to compile inkscape from cvs12:17
Seveasmicrohaxo, i have one that works with fglrx :)12:17
microhaxoErr12:17
Seveasubuntu-provided fglrx12:17
microhaxobut wont the monitor be off?12:17
microhaxosure send it to me12:17
holycowi'm curious, someone mentioned it has some neat features12:18
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Seveasmicrohaxo, paste.ubuntulinux.nl/7612:18
microhaxok12:18
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xydineshmicorhaxo, once I got that problem I was able to get rid of by using dpkg-reconfigure12:19
rob^does anyone know a good apt source I can get azureus from?12:19
rob^and the java packages12:19
xydineshmicrohaxo, in my debian box12:19
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microhaxowow12:20
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microhaxoit worked12:20
Seveasrob^: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 12:20
microhaxolol12:20
xabbuGreat, I jjust love my computer. I wake up this morning turn on my computer and I notice the screen i yellow... It's f*** great...12:20
microhaxoELITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!12:20
microhaxoseveas THANK YOU I DUNNO WHAT I HAD WRONG OMG THANKS!12:20
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microhaxoglxgears 7140fps :D12:20
Seveas:)12:20
xydineshmicorhaxo12:20
Seveasyw microhaxo12:20
microhaxo7243fps12:20
xydineshtry this one12:21
xydineshSimple... login as root and give,12:21
xydinesh        dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree8612:21
xydineshand you can reconfigure your vga.12:21
xydineshBut will tell you dirty old trick ;-)12:21
xydineshBoot your machine with Knoppix or Mepis, they'll auto prob the12:21
xydineshsettings for you. If it can give 1024x768, then copy12:21
xydinesh/etc/X11/XF86Config-4 to your hard disk (to the same place). That's12:21
xydineshall and it's simple. Disadvantage is, you'll never learn how to12:21
xydineshconfigure your vga ;-p12:21
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Seveasdo not paste in here12:21
microhaxolol12:21
Seveasand do not give wrong instructions :)12:21
microhaxomuhahah12:21
microhaxoi have stayed up all night for 7000fps of GEAR ACTION12:21
microhaxoYEA!12:21
microhaxofinally12:21
rob^Seveas, what depository do I get java-package from?12:21
Iaidokamicrohaxo: tweaking the graphics?12:22
Seveasfrom ubuntu multiverse rob^12:22
Seveasrob^, there are also pre-mada java packages in the backports repositories, but backports is an ill-advised way to go12:22
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=== mode/#ubuntu [-q xydinesh!*@*] by Seveas
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GNULinuxerwhat is the name of the xorg devel packages?12:23
rob^thanks Seveas12:23
Seveasxlibs-dev12:23
Seveasor whatever you need :)12:23
SeveasGNULinuxer, what are you trying to compile?12:24
xydineshseveas, Sorry every one Its quite loon dats y I pasted it12:24
GNULinuxerSeveas, Beagle12:24
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xydineshquite long I mean12:24
SeveasGNULinuxer, have you followed the instructions on the beaglewiki or ubuntu wiki?12:24
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Seveasthey both have good instructions to get beagle working12:24
GNULinuxerSeveas, yes, but it needs scrnsaver.h12:24
Seveashold on12:24
SeveasGNULinuxer, libxss-dev12:25
GNULinuxerSeveas, you mean libxssl-dev12:25
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Seveasno12:26
Seveasdennis@mirage ~ $ apt-file search scrnsaver.h12:26
Seveaslibxss-dev: usr/X11R6/include/X11/extensions/scrnsaver.h12:26
Seveaslibxss-dev12:26
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GNULinuxerSeveas, yeah ... but the main pacakge is called libxssl but the dev package is libxss-dev12:27
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Seveas:)12:28
microhaxoguys i dloaded flash player 712:30
microhaxohow do i install it?12:30
microhaxoapt-get or somthin?12:30
scanwinderhow do i make xawtv use the channels that scantv picked up?12:30
Seveasmicrohaxo, downloaded from where?12:30
Seveasnot the macromedia site i hope12:30
microhaxomicromedia flash12:30
microhaxolmao12:30
microhaxowhy?12:30
Nermalmicrohaxo, read ubuntuguide.org12:30
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Seveasbecause that's been a useless download and you can toss it out ;)12:30
Seveasmicrohaxo, aptitude install flashplayer-mozilla12:31
Nermalfewl12:31
Seveasthat'll install the ubuntu version12:31
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Nermal:)12:31
Seveasmake sure you have multiverse enabled12:31
SeveasNermal, ubuntuguide is not good12:31
Seveasrefer to the wiki instead12:31
NermalSeveas, justification?12:31
microhaxoerr12:32
microhaxodo i need to run mozilla12:32
SeveasNermal, misinformation, suboptimal solutions, no explanations, no cooperation of the author with others...12:32
microhaxoi like12:32
microhaxokonqueror12:32
Nermalmicrohaxo, no12:32
Nermalugh12:32
NermalSeveas, ah12:32
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Seveaskonqueror & flash is a no-go afaik, but i don't use KrapDE so I can very well be wrong here12:32
microhaxothat didnt work12:32
microhaxolol12:33
microhaxoeh12:33
GNULinuxerSeveas, which package is  gmime-sharp?12:33
GNULinuxerSeveas, it requires gmime-sharp.pc12:33
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microhaxok12:34
microhaxohow do i install firefox12:34
microhaxothen12:34
microhaxo?12:34
mindspinwith synaptic12:35
otepapt-get install mozilla?12:35
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Myrttimozilla-firefox12:35
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tonio_hi12:35
bob2firefox is already installed12:35
s00dHi. Can anybody help me with some security issues? Yesterday, Firefox started by itself, and loaded random pages, which I had never been to. I was wondering if it is plausible that somebody can be using a VNC type program on my computer? (I am only semi computer literate)12:35
microhaxowhere?12:35
microhaxoi cant see it in internet?12:35
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Seveasmicrohaxo, aptitude install mozilla-firefox12:36
Seveass00d, only if you have enabled the VNC server, it's not on by default12:37
we2byany on ehere use 64bit cpu ?12:37
bob2we2by: lots of people do12:37
bob2I have an alpha heree next to me12:37
we2byI wonder how many app there is for 64bit cpu12:38
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bob2do you mean "amd64"?12:38
s00dSeveas, so is there any other possibility that my box was broken into?12:38
bob2amd64 is but one of the many 64-bit cpus Linux runs on12:38
Seveass00d, very unlikely on a default Ubuntu install12:39
we2bybob2, yep12:39
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bob2we2by: do you care about binary-only crap?12:39
we2bybob2, I am more concerned about the app I need12:39
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bob2e.g. flash, windows software, etc12:39
s00dseveas, is there any further reading you could point me to?12:40
we2bybob2, I need flash12:40
we2bywindows software on linux? nope12:41
we2byI use vmware for that12:41
Seveaswe2by, there's no flash for amd6412:41
bob2then use windows12:41
bob2even on i386 linux flash is unstable and annoying12:41
Seveasyeah...12:41
we2byflash is optional though12:41
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microhaxoguys12:42
Nermalhush12:42
microhaxothat flash deal didnt work, flash didnt load in firefox?12:42
we2bybob2, are there separated repo for 64bit ubuntu?12:42
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Nermalmicrohaxo, you install mozilla-flashplayer ?12:42
bob2we2by: no12:42
Nermaland firefox ?12:42
microhaxoaptitude install flashplayer-mozilla12:42
microhaxothat?12:42
microhaxoyea12:42
Nermaloh12:43
microhaxoand i still get the plugin deal12:43
Nermalah well12:43
we2bybob2, how do I install app then?12:43
Nermalflash is useful for nothing anyway12:43
microhaxohah12:43
bob2we2by: same as on i386 and ppc12:43
Nermalyou restarted firefox ?12:43
bob2microhaxo: did it actually install it?12:43
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we2bybob2, do u think those app run on 64bit cpu?12:43
bob2we2by: I don't know what you mean by "those"12:44
we2byxmms, xine firefox open office etc12:44
bob2yes, they're all ported to amd6412:44
bob2you can't (Easily) use windows dlls with xine, tho12:44
shovelHey, can womeone recommend some programs for me, I want a program to edit the artist and title info inside an OGG file... And also another to convert mp3 to OGG!12:45
shovelthtanks12:45
bob2don't convert mp3 to ogg, it's silly12:45
Guerinshovel: you don't want to convert mp3 to ogg.12:45
bob2you can use vorbiscomment to edit the metadata in ogg files12:45
Guerinshovel: easytag can probably do the other thing.12:45
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shovelok will look at vorbiscomment and easytag12:45
shovelthanks12:45
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forsaker8k6hello everybody12:46
Nermalhello darling12:46
forsaker8k6a question: how do i ad an e17 session to gdm?12:46
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shovelThe only reason I wanted to convert mp3 to OGG is ALL of my music is in OGG but I have 3 CDs that are scratched and I have got them off someone in mp3 and thought it would be best to have everything in ogg12:46
we2bybob2, does gnome work on 64bit cpu?12:47
forsaker8k6(or even how do i change gdm with entrance? )12:47
microhaxowhat the hell12:47
microhaxoERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the12:47
forsaker8k6add*12:47
microhaxo       Macromedia Flash Player installer.12:47
bob2we2by: please stop saying "64bit cpu" when you mean "amd64", they mean very different things12:47
microhaxois there any way to install linux!?12:47
microhaxolol12:47
microhaxoim tired as hell12:47
bob2microhaxo: talk to macromedia about porting it to amd64 for you12:47
we2bythe problem is that I'm still not sure what I buy12:47
microhaxolmao12:47
microhaxoso im fubar?12:47
bob2you could install the i386 version of ubuntu12:48
bob2how much do you care?12:48
bob2we2by: yes, gnome works on amd6412:48
Guerinmicrohaxo: run a browser and your flash plugin in a 32-bit chroot12:48
forsaker8k6no idea about what i asked?12:48
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bob2forsaker8k6: look in /etc/X11/sessions12:49
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tmjbhello12:50
xabbuIs there any hardware channels on freenode?12:51
Guerinxabbu: #hardware comes to mind12:51
forsaker8k6bob2, thank you.. but there's only an Xsession file in /etc/x11/ and i can't find nothing usefull in it... could someone help me?12:51
Guerinbizarre as that may seem12:51
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xabbuGuerin, Thanks... :P12:51
tmjbdoes exist any easy way to download  all multiverse packges for Hoary 5.0412:51
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hussamI've been building firefox from cvs on aviary branch. Other than compiler cpu optimizations such as -O2, are there any performace patches to make firefox faster on linux? It seems a bit faster on windows than on linux.12:52
bob2forsaker8k6: copy /usr/share/xsessions/gnome.deskto to /etc/X11/sessions/ and modify it12:52
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Seveastmjb, why would you want that..?12:53
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tmjband why is (not free) to have ogg on ubunutu in standard edition12:53
forsaker8k6tnx bob2 i'll try12:53
forsaker8k6:)12:53
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Seveastmjb, ogg is by default usable in Ubuntu...12:53
bob2tmjb: er, you mean "mp3"?12:54
tmjbbob2,no ogg12:54
Guerin...12:54
NicPogg is installed by default12:54
bob2tmjb: ubuntu's default install includes just about ever ogg tool you can imagine12:54
NicPyep12:54
bob2hussam: you'd be better off asking the mozilla people, I'd think12:54
tmjbwhat about infamose mplayer12:54
NicPmplayer isnt installed12:55
tmjbhow can i watch my dvd12:55
NicPbut its not an ogg tool12:55
NicPits a universal player12:55
NicPdvds should play in totem12:55
bob2tmjb: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats12:55
tmjboh tnx12:55
NicPyeah u will have to dl the codec first tho12:55
bob2mplayer isn't installed by default, because a) it implements patented codecs and b) it's unclear whether its distributable by anyone at all12:55
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tmjbi am in europe I do not have Software Patents12:56
NicPyou will soon12:56
NicPlol12:56
shovelGuerin: Easaytag is perfect thanks12:56
bob2I'm pretty sure the mp3 patent is enforced in germany, at least12:57
Guerinshovel: bonza mate.12:57
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mindspinbob, not the patent just the frauenhofer codec afaik12:59
tmjbbob2,Not in Serbian and Montenegro01:00
Guerintmjb: serbia and montenegro also isn't in EUrope...01:01
Guerinmindspin: you mean the PATENTED codec?01:01
mindspinserbia and nontenegro is definately europe01:02
mindspinyep01:02
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Guerinmindspin: not EUrope, though.01:02
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mindspingoz you01:02
mindspingot you01:02
SeveasEU-rope :)01:02
DunkMasterhello01:02
mindspinEU01:02
Seveasnice one01:02
GuerinSeveas: enough rope?01:02
Seveasthe strangling rope of the EU01:02
DunkMasteri need help01:03
DunkMastermy ubuntu wont load, because it says that no screens found01:03
mindspinnonsense, a strong EU would be the best01:03
DunkMasteri think its xorg.conf01:03
DunkMasterhow can i fix it?01:03
Seveasmindspin, let's not have that discussion in here, this is not #politics01:03
mindspinsure01:03
Guerinmindspin: if it wasn't evil(TM)01:03
Guerinyeah01:03
microhaxoyo guys, i just dloaded a FREE linux game, AMERICAS ARMY, how can i install it? its in the home dir..01:04
mindspinseveas you started it ;-)01:04
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Guerinmicrohaxo: read the documentation on the site from which you downloaded it?01:04
Guerin(just an idea)01:04
Seveasmindspin, shh :)01:04
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SeveasGuerin, if only everybody was that smart ;)01:04
DunkMasterplease01:04
microhaxoits a .run file\01:04
microhaxothey dont have any docs on it01:04
Seveasmicrohaxo, chmod +x blablabla.run01:04
microhaxoits a port01:04
Seveas./blablabal.run01:05
Nermalmicrohaxo, GFL01:05
microhaxol01:05
microhaxo;p;01:05
microhaxolol01:05
microhaxoi am a die hard windows user but, i think i like this linux01:05
NermalI wish you would die hard01:05
microhaxolol01:05
Nermalsorry I meant to think that01:05
Nermalah well01:05
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NicPi hate windows01:05
=== microhaxo loves windows
tmjbWhy Is ubuntu DVD bigger01:06
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microhaxoerr01:06
Guerintmjb: because it's got more stuff on it01:06
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microhaxocuz it has more stuff in it01:06
mindspinI would have some more windows in my house ;-)01:06
microhaxodamn you01:06
Guerintmjb: naturally01:06
Guerinheh01:06
NicPi have a thing against windows, because my friends are always getting spyware and viruses so i have to fix them01:06
Seveastmjb, because it contains the complete main repositories01:06
NicPplus 90% of my junk mail is windows viruses01:06
tmjbGuerin,more .debs or source codes01:07
Guerintmjb: both, I expect.01:07
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Guerintmjb: of course, your question is meaningless unless you specify what it has more THAN.01:07
DunkMasterplease, can i get some help?01:08
microhaxoyo01:08
Xabbu|DunkMaster, whats the problem?01:08
DunkMastermy ubuntu wont load, because it says that no screens found01:08
GuerinDunkMaster: what video card?01:08
DunkMasteri think its xorg.conf01:08
microhaxoneither of those commands installed this game01:08
microhaxoits a .run01:08
microhaxohow can i execute it01:08
DunkMasterits ATi01:08
microhaxo./ didnt work01:08
DunkMaster2mb01:08
microhaxoneither did chmod01:08
Seveasmicrohaxo, if you do what i said, it'll work01:09
Guerinmicrohaxo: run file whateveritscalled.run01:09
Lumpio-Hi. I'm having some trouble with my wlan thing (again). Everything has worked beautifully before so I know everything's supported. But yesterday, everything just stopped working. I can't even get the wlan card to find my AP. I've tried fiddling with my wlan config and the APs config, resetting everything etc but to no avail. I'm not really experienced at this so I don't have any more ideas.01:09
Seveaschmod makes it executable01:09
microhaxoi did01:09
Lumpio-Anybody else got any ideas? :\01:09
Seveas./filename.run runs it01:09
microhaxochmod: cannot access `armyops230-linux.run': No such file or direct01:09
Guerinmicrohaxo: you have to tell it WHERE the file is01:09
NicPare u in the right directory?01:09
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Seveasmicrohaxo, then you made a typo...01:09
Guerinstrange as this may seem01:09
shovelno enter 'run' the filename01:09
shovelthen01:09
microhaxoomg01:10
microhaxoopens it into kate01:10
microhaxotxt editor01:10
Seveasmuha :)01:10
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microhaxolol01:10
microhaxowth01:10
Seveasthat's why you don't want to do that01:10
microhaxothis is at my desktop01:10
microhaxowhy wont it run01:11
microhaxolol01:11
Seveasmicrohaxo, in the shell go to the correct dir01:11
Seveasthen type the chmod command01:11
Seveasand the ./bla.run01:11
DunkMasterbah01:11
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DunkMaster:(01:12
paxonCan't use sudo :( semms like /etc/sudoers is damaged. Any way to fix this?01:12
Seveaspaxon, what error do you get?01:12
microhaxoi get permission denied and im root01:12
paxon>>> sudoers file: syntax error, line 23 <<<01:12
paxonsudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 2301:12
microhaxolol01:12
Seveashmm yeah01:12
Seveassounds bad01:12
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Seveaspaxon, have you enabled the root account>01:13
Seveas?01:13
paxonNop.01:13
Seveasok01:13
GuerinDunkMaster: run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, as root, and choose the 'vesa' driver01:13
microhaxonm i got it01:13
Seveasthen boot into rescue mode or boot from a livecd and edit the sudoers file01:13
DunkMasteri tried xsetup, like on DSL01:13
microhaxoWTF01:13
microhaxoerror in md5 checksums01:14
microhaxobs01:14
microhaxono way its corrupt01:14
Seveashehe01:14
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microhaxohow can i bypass that01:14
deco_how can i kill tty2?01:14
paxonK.01:14
NicPmicrohaxo why are you root?01:14
microhaxoi had to to install01:14
DunkMasterty Guerin01:14
microhaxoim not root now :D01:14
DunkMasterwill try right away01:14
microhaxohad to sudo -s01:14
Seveasdeco_, kill the getty that is tty201:14
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Seveasbut it will respawn...01:15
DunkMasterhopefully brb01:15
microhaxoseveas, how can i overright that checkism deal01:15
Seveasmicrohaxo, you can't01:15
microhaxoi wanna install that game im TIRED AS HELL its fkin 6 am in the morning01:15
microhaxoOMG01:15
microhaxoi have to redl it!01:15
Seveasre-download it01:15
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Seveasmicrohaxo, get some sleep...01:15
Seveastry again later01:15
mindspinor stop playing those games01:16
Seveashehe01:16
Guerin6am IN THE MORNING01:16
Guerinwho would have thought?!01:16
Seveashaha01:16
Pop_pa_FrEaKanyone tried the new ati drivers with gui installer ?01:16
microhaxodloading at 766kb/s01:17
microhaxoAhh01:17
microhaxonothing like kick ass speed01:17
Lumpio-So, er, any ideas on why my whole wlan would just totally stop responding all of a sudden?01:17
Guerinbah, that's weak01:17
microhaxoBah01:17
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microhaxomr college campus elite fiberoptic leecher01:17
Guerinno way01:17
Guerini have 100 megabit full-dup internet AT HOME01:18
microhaxoim happy with my 7mbit down01:18
microhaxoBull01:18
microhaxohow01:18
microhaxodo you run a damn isp01:18
microhaxolol01:18
Guerinprobably for less than what you pay for yours :)01:18
microhaxowhere the hell you live at KOREA?01:18
Guerinyup01:18
microhaxoBAH01:18
Guerin:)01:18
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Seveasah spam-land01:18
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r3d0xXuS``hi all :D01:18
microhaxolol01:18
Seveashi r3d0xXuS``01:19
r3d0xXuS``cthulfuego there?01:19
GuerinSeveas: yes indeed. One of the win98 boxen at my work has a copy of the /etc/passwd file from the main gateway on its desktop :|01:19
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Pop_pa_FrEaKwow the new ati driver install is nice01:20
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SeveasPop_pa_FrEaK, too bad they wasted their time with that instead of creating good drivers01:21
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microhaxoBAH01:21
r3d0xXuS``hmm then i start my ask: i have on this PC installed WINDOWS XP, so i want ubuntu as my 2nd O/S system. its able to install as 2nd system without deleting my partition of winXP?01:21
microhaxoi SPENT COUNTLESS HOURS01:21
microhaxowith that driver01:21
microhaxo...01:21
microhaxoand seveas could have ended my sorrow in 2 seconds01:21
microhaxo..01:22
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Seveasr3d0xXuS``, yes01:22
Seveasthe ubuntu installer will detect windows xp and setup dual-booting01:22
microhaxoyep01:22
microhaxovery nicely01:22
microhaxounlike REDHAT01:22
microhaxo...01:22
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r3d0xXuS``ok i try :o01:22
Whistleris there any way to fast swich between desktops?01:23
Whistlerlike alt+tab01:23
r3d0xXuS``see u later01:23
SeveasWhistler, what do you mean?01:23
r3d0xXuS``ill be back01:23
microhaxodude, it sucks that i cant axx my ntfs partitions, i wanna get my music off of em and put em on here01:23
Lumpio-Ctrl+Alt+right/left arrow I guess, Whistler01:23
Seveasah, you can setup keybindings for that01:23
Lumpio-At least I think that's the default setting01:23
Whistlerlumpio thx01:23
Whistler=] 01:23
Seveasmicrohaxo, you can easily read from NTFS partitions01:23
Lumpio-Otherwise, System->Preferences->Keyboard Shortcuts01:23
microhaxohow01:23
microhaxoi get errror01:23
microhaxowith broken glass01:23
Seveasone sec01:23
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Seveasah you mounted them already?01:24
microhaxomounted them?01:24
Seveasyou cannot *write* to ntfs though...01:24
Seveasmicrohaxo, hang on01:24
microhaxoi wanna TAKE01:24
microhaxofrom01:24
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misakaSo, just how stable is breezy anyway?01:25
Seveasmicrohaxo, download http://staff.science.uva.nl/~dkaarsem/windows_fstab and run it01:25
microhaxok01:26
Guerinmisaka: topic01:26
misakaSafe enough to switch my desktop over to it?01:26
Seveasthat'll enable you to access ntfs01:26
Seveassomwhere under /media/01:26
misakaGuerin - Sorry, it's cut-off on my client.01:26
Seveasmisaka, no01:26
Guerinmisaka: type /topic01:26
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Seveasmisaka, breezy is very unstable01:26
microhaxoseveas how do i dl it, linux ALWAYS opens the source01:26
microhaxolol01:26
misakaRight, got it. ;] 01:26
Seveasfile -> save as01:26
misakaAre we talking unbootable-unstable?01:26
misakaOr just don't expect GNOME to work unstable?01:26
Pop_pa_FrEaKbrb gotta reboot01:26
Seveasmisaka, not-starting-x unstable and lotsa-programs-not-working unstable01:27
misakaSeveas - Cool. Thanks.01:27
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Seveasand occasionally unbootable-unstable too :)01:27
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misakaSeveas - That's the one that hurts the most.01:27
Whistleris it possible to drag prog from one desktop to another?01:27
SeveasWhistler, no, but you can setup keybindings for that too :D01:28
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yangguang??01:28
Seveasand a rightclick on the menubar will also reveal some moving-niceness01:28
Seveas01:28
Lumpio-You can drag the mini-windows on the workspace selector01:28
misakaIs there a repository one can use to grab Firefox 1.0.4? Or is it expected one will just snag the tarball/deb (if available) for it?01:28
Lumpio-But it's kinda hard to hit small ones :P01:28
Seveasmisaka, FF in ubuntu IS 1.0.401:28
Seveasit only has the wrong verion number...01:28
visorhey ppl i just have seen Batman Begins, im just excited its not like a big deal to you i know :P01:29
misakaSeveas - Hrm. Both the deb version number and the 'About Firefox' versions show 1.0.2.01:29
Seveasmisaka, i know01:29
misakaSeveas - So those are innacurate?01:30
Seveasit's 1.0.2 with all 1.0.4 securoty patches applied patches01:30
Seveasokay that line sucked...01:30
Seveasit's 1.0.2 with all 1.0.4 security patches applied01:30
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misakaSeveas - I see. Cool.01:30
misakaExcept that the bloody dom inspector isn't working and I can't quite sort out why. ;] 01:30
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Seveashehe :)01:31
Lumpio-I couldn't get it to appear on the version installed via apt01:31
misakaTrying to update any of the installed extensions says that I need to have FF 1.0.4 to access the updates.01:31
Lumpio-I thought it had to be enabled in the installer?01:31
Seveasisn;t it an extension?01:31
misaka^^^ not cool.01:31
Seveasmisaka ah :)01:31
Seveasmisaka: Open firefox and in about:config set general.useragent.vendorSub to 1.0.401:31
Seveasand you will have access to the extensions again :)01:32
misakaheh. Hadn't thought of that. Won't that risk breaking other things though?01:32
Seveasnot at all01:32
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Lumpio-Meh, I'll go bash my AP around a bit, maybe it'll start working :I01:33
misakaSeveas - Is the diff between 1.0.2 and 1.0.4 only security patches? Nothing that might break an extension?01:33
Seveasyes01:33
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misakaSeveas - Ok, thanks for everything, I'm going to give that a go.01:33
misakaI can always toast my ~/.firefox dir in case of anything.01:33
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r3d0xXuS``seveas?01:33
Seveasmisaka, this step is even recommended by ff developers :)01:33
Seveasyes?01:34
r3d0xXuS``Seveas i need ur help really01:34
r3d0xXuS``i put my cd into drive01:34
Seveaswith what?01:34
Seveasah01:34
r3d0xXuS``and it came ubuntu installer01:34
r3d0xXuS``ok he checked hardware and network01:34
r3d0xXuS``so then came a window with partition01:34
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r3d0xXuS``so what must i do there01:34
Seveasdo you already have an empty partition for linux or not?01:35
r3d0xXuS``not01:35
Seveasr3d0xXuS``, do you have partition magic?01:35
r3d0xXuS``no i ll download now wait01:35
r3d0xXuS``i know this01:35
Seveasok01:35
Seveashow much memory do you have?01:35
r3d0xXuS``hdd?01:35
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Seveasno, memory01:35
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r3d0xXuS``ram?01:36
Seveasyes01:36
r3d0xXuS``51201:36
r3d0xXuS``mb01:36
Seveasok01:36
r3d0xXuS``ddr201:36
Seveasyou need 2 partitions for linux:01:36
Seveas1 of about 512 MB for swap01:36
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microhaxoPURE01:36
microhaxobull01:36
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Seveasand 1 that's as big as you want it (recommended at least a few gb) for the rest01:36
microhaxoSecond time checkism is BAD01:36
microhaxowth is goin on here!01:36
Seveasmicrohaxo, :|01:36
microhaxoomg im goin to sleep01:36
microhaxoill figure it out later01:37
r3d0xXuS``Seveas my hdds are01:37
r3d0xXuS``hdd (free): 164.72/393.88GB (41.8%)01:37
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r3d0xXuS``:o01:37
Seveas:)01:37
r3d0xXuS``got 5 hdds01:38
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Seveasthen give it 10 gb or so, you can install a lot then ;)01:38
r3d0xXuS``*lol*01:38
Seveas5hdds?01:38
r3d0xXuS``yah :)01:38
Seveaswhy not make 1 a linux hdd>01:38
r3d0xXuS``sure that i want try that :P01:38
Seveasso wipe all of it and install linux on that  one01:38
Seveasah ok01:38
TheNosehi! i have a problem with a cd burner! it is connected over usb! can somebody help me?01:38
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Seveaswell, wipe one hdd empty then :)01:38
Seveasand create the 2 partitions i mentioned01:39
Seveasthe swap at the beginning is best01:39
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r3d0xXuS``*starting partitionMagic*01:39
Seveasare you mixing SATA and IDE disks?01:40
r3d0xXuS``all IDE :)01:40
Seveashmm01:40
r3d0xXuS``over RAID controller01:40
Seveasah :)01:40
r3d0xXuS``hm01:40
r3d0xXuS``only empty partition?01:40
r3d0xXuS``or FAT / FAT32/ NTFS ?01:40
r3d0xXuS``for the linux01:40
Seveasyeah, 2 empty partitions01:40
r3d0xXuS``why 2 ?01:40
Seveasif you want, you can let PM make the swap partition linux swap01:41
Seveasand the other linx ext301:41
Seveasthe swap is for virtual memory01:41
bwlangr3d0xXuS``: you don't have to have a swap parition... you can use  a swap file instead01:41
r3d0xXuS``:o01:41
Seveasbwlang, nonsense...01:41
r3d0xXuS``what if i i use only 1 partition? :o01:41
bwlangSeveas: i run that way on raid systems...01:41
Seveasbwlang, loop-mounted filesystem?01:41
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moparfan90hello01:42
bwlangSeveas: /swapfile       none            swap    defaults        0       001:42
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Seveasr3d0xXuS``, you *need* swap, virtual memory is absolutely needed01:42
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r3d0xXuS``ok then01:42
bwlangdd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile bs=1024 count=youpickthe size01:42
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bwlangmkswap /swapfile01:42
moparfan90i have been trying to get ubuntu for a day with no sleep. now it works but with alot of errors01:42
Seveasswapon /swapfile ..?01:42
bwlangSeveas: yep01:43
Seveashmm01:43
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Seveasi stand corrected01:43
r3d0xXuS``Linux EXT2 or LINUX EXT3 ?01:43
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Seveasext301:43
bwlangSeveas: and you don't NEED swap... on my systems with lots of memory (like 12G) swap is useless01:43
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Seveasbwlang, i know01:43
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Seveasbut he has 512MB :)01:43
Seveasso he NEEDS it01:43
moparfan90when you guys installed ubuntu did you have to go into a mwnu to get updated packages from errors??01:43
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DunkMasteryeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa01:43
Monknesshi can someone help me01:43
Monknessplz01:43
Seveasmoparfan90, no01:43
Seveasmoparfan90, are you in the US?01:44
moparfan90o01:44
DunkMasteri got the beast working again01:44
r3d0xXuS``ok01:44
Seveasnice DunkMaster01:44
bwlangMonkness: just ask your questaion... lay off key repeat01:44
moparfan90then why did i im having alot of errors01:44
Monknesshow do i install a .deb file?01:44
DunkMaster:)01:44
r3d0xXuS``then another empty partition @ Seveas?01:44
r3d0xXuS``too ext3 ?01:44
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Monknessim a noob at ubuntu01:44
SeveasMonkness, dpkg -i blabla.deb01:44
Monknessok01:44
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DunkMasteri will brb, need to reboot, just got in01:44
bwlangMonkness: if you prefer gui you could use synaptic01:44
Seveasr3d0xXuS``, the large partition should be ext301:44
misakaDoes anyone else have the DOM Inspector grayed out in Firefox 1.0.2?01:44
Seveasthe small 512 mb one linux swap01:45
r3d0xXuS``and the small unformated?01:45
Monknessone more thing, i got a source file for xmms but i get a glib error saying its not installed althought when i checked synaptic it seems installed01:45
SeveasMonkness, source file..?01:45
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Monknesssource as it the tar01:45
SeveasMonkness, what are you installing with the .deb by the way?01:45
Monkness*as in01:45
SeveasMonkness, you don't need that01:45
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MonknessSeveas : vlc media player01:45
misakaMonkness - You may need the -dev package for glib, but you should probably just install the xmms binary package.01:45
r3d0xXuS``Seveas what do with small unformated partition01:45
moparfan90it said that there was errors in some of the packages use this program to get new ones. and i had to download the whole ubuntu thing again file by file.01:45
Seveasyou can simply use synaptic to install it from the repositories01:45
SeveasMonkness, do NOT manually istall vlc01:46
Seveassimply use synapti for that01:46
MonknessSeveas : then what do i do01:46
Monknessso i start up synaptic then01:46
Monknessload the .deb file?01:46
SeveasMonkness: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto01:46
r3d0xXuS``Seveas what do with small unformated partition01:46
Seveasreead that and enable universe01:46
Monknessthanks01:46
Seveasthen start synaptic01:46
Seveasand use the search function01:46
moparfan90ok. i have to go.01:46
moparfan90bye01:47
Seveasthe small 512 mb one should be linux swap r3d0xXuS``01:47
Monknessor how do i install xvid/mp3 so that i can use totem to play?01:47
bwlangMonkness: stay away from tarballs... just use prepackaged stuff until you are experienced enough to build your own pacakges...  by installing from source code you destroy much of the value of a package manager like dpkg/apt01:47
r3d0xXuS``ok01:47
r3d0xXuS``ill install nu01:47
r3d0xXuS``brb01:47
Monknessk ta bwlang01:47
SeveasMonkness: http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/RestrictedFormats01:47
misakaNice signoff.01:47
Monknesshow do i install a theme01:48
Monkness?01:48
misakaSo, sorry to repeat myself, but just to make sure ... nobody's seen the DOM Inspector disabled in the web developer menu in Firefox?01:48
Monknesswant to change the look for ubuntu01:48
SeveasMonkness, go to gnome-look.org and download themes then01:48
Seveassee art.gnome.org too01:48
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Seveasart.gnome.org/faq.php tells you how to install themes01:48
bwlangmisaka: i don't even know what you're talking about - i don't have a web developer menu01:49
Monknesshow do i load it up?01:49
Monknessjust use gnome?01:49
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misakabwlang - Tools -> Web Developer -> Miscellaneous01:49
Monknesssoz about the lame questions01:49
Monknessbut just starting out :>01:49
bwlangmisaka: you must have some extension ... i don't have that01:49
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misakabwlang - Hrm. Thought that was part of the default FF install now, guess not.01:50
SeveasMonkness, read what i said and visit the 3 urls i gave you01:50
MonknessSeveas i dont get what universe means01:50
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trygvebwHi01:51
trygvebwAny initng users here?01:51
SeveasMonkness, read the AddingRepositoriesHowto, universe is a component of the Ubuntu distribution. See www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components for the details01:51
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Monknessk01:52
Monknessthanks01:52
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misakabwlang - Hey, just thought of something, does Ctrl-Shift-I do anything for you in Firefox on a webpage?01:53
Seveasnope01:54
Seveasand the web developer menu / toolbar work fine here on Ubuntu FF01:54
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misakaSeveas - Is the Dom Inspector available through the menus though?01:54
bwlangmisaka: no01:55
=== misaka finds the mozilla-firefox-dom-inspector package and a light goes on.
misakabwlang - *nod*01:56
Monknessis mplayer in universe?01:56
Monknessi mean do i need to download it01:56
Seveasi don't have that installed :)01:56
SeveasMonkness, it's in multiverse01:56
Monknessor can i just use synaptic to install it01:56
Seveasso you can use synaptic01:56
Monknesswhats a multiverse...01:56
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Monknesssigh this nakes no sense01:56
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Seveasmultiverse is another component :)01:56
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Monknessso i dont need to download it?01:57
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DunkMasterok, back01:57
misakaSeveas - ;]  ... neither do I, and it seems to depend on mozilla-firefox (= 1.0.2-0ubuntu5) ... I have -0ubuntu5.3 installed.01:57
misakaargh.01:57
DunkMasterbut still have a problem01:57
Seveasouch01:57
Seveasfile a bug then :)01:57
DunkMasteri need to set XFCe to estonian keyboard layout01:57
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SeveasMonkness, no01:58
Monknesskewl01:58
christosanyone knows any package for algol compiler?01:58
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misakaMonkness - Universe and multiverse are collections of packages that you can add to your ubuntu system. You don't install the entire thing, you pick and chose which packages you want to install from the universe or multiverse.01:58
Monknessbut this glib thing i want to sort it out though...i installed the c++ compiler then ran a ./configure on the xmms installer but it says my glib is outdated though when i checked synaptic its version 2. something01:59
DunkMasterSeveas, can you help me setting estonian keyboard layout in XFce?01:59
Seveaschristos, gcc can hadle algol iirc01:59
misakaMonkness - If it's still confusing, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components describes components.01:59
DunkMasterits not in the settings01:59
SeveasDunkMaster, no i can't sorry01:59
DunkMasterdamn01:59
christosSeveas: what's iirc?01:59
DunkMasteri like XFCe its fast01:59
misakaMonkness - You really should just install the binary packages and not bother with the source ...01:59
Seveasif i recall correctly01:59
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Monknessmisaka i want to learn though01:59
Monkness:>01:59
Monknessi mean what if tehres a program without the debain binary...02:00
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Monkness:<02:00
misakaMonkness - .... learn to install the binary packages first? ;]  But seriously, that kind of stuff will come, but you're installing a package here with a lot of dependancies, it's not the best one to start with to learn.02:00
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SeveasMonkness, there are not many such programs :)02:00
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misakaMonkness - There aren't a lot of those. ;] 02:00
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Monknessoookies02:00
misakaGack. I think I'm just going to run DOM Inspector on my OSX box.02:01
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Seveasmisaka, why don't you file a bug then?02:01
Monknessim on the gname look site...which one should i choose for a theme theres sections on gtk, gdm themes?02:01
Monkness*gnome rather02:01
Seveasgtk themes02:02
Seveasgdm is the logon screen02:02
Monkness2.x?02:02
Seveas2.x yes02:02
misakaMonkness - gtk themes change the look of your widgets ... buttons, scrollbars, etc. gdm is the login manager, a different component.02:02
MonknessAHA02:02
Monknessi get i get02:02
bionicWhats the default cups username/password in ubuntu 5.04? Or do I have to make one somehow?02:02
Monknessand whats the splash screen t then02:02
misakaMonkness - Sorry, not sure about that. ;] 02:03
SeveasMonkness, you need to run the configuration editor from the applications menu to change that02:03
goye2czany way to test if I've correctly installed my tascam us-12202:03
goye2cz?02:03
misakagoye2cz - I've got one of those ...02:04
misakaAre there Linux drivers for them?02:04
Monknessanyway of running starcraft in ubuntu :o02:04
goye2czmisaka: appears to be.02:05
misakaNeat-o.02:05
SeveasMonkness, maybe with wine, you should google for it02:05
goye2czmisaka: don't take my word for it, I don't have it working yet.02:05
DunkMasterwhen i change the kb layout in xorg.conf i will just need to reboot then?02:05
Monknessah yes wine is the windows emulator for nix right02:06
DunkMasteryes02:06
misakagoye2cz - Well, wouldn't mind hearing if you end up sorting it out. ;] 02:06
DunkMasteri use one atm02:06
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DunkMasterto run WinMX02:06
Monknessk02:06
Monknessare u guys resposible for the development of ubuntu?02:07
Heart|<bionic> Whats the default cups username/password in ubuntu 5.04? Or do I have to make one somehow? <-- also interested in that!!?02:07
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goye2czmisaka: this is the link to directions on how to install it: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-30891.html The link to the RPM is broken, but someone here helped me find one.02:07
misakabionic/Heart| - Have you guys checked the ubuntu docs for cups? Instructions on getting it going may be in there.02:07
DunkMasterbrb, need to change the layout02:08
misakagoye2cz - Cool.02:08
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Monknesswhat is metacity02:09
NicPmetacity is the default windowmanger of gnome02:10
bionicmisaka, my bad, works like a charm, thanks.02:10
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misakabionic - Might want to let Heart| know. ;] 02:11
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bionicWell didnt need it for adding a printer. Thaught I did.02:12
n3Cwhat command is to download kde?02:12
n3Capt-get install kde02:12
n3Cor02:12
n3Capt-get install kdebase02:13
bionicsudo apt-get install kde02:13
Monknesswhy use kde if ubuntu has gnome?02:13
bionicit will install what you need02:13
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Whistlerhow can i start smart update?02:13
n3Ci dont like gnome02:13
Riddelln3C: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop02:13
Seveasn3C, sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop02:13
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EudoxusHi02:13
Seveashi Riddell :)02:13
Seveasdo you have a trigger on KDE? ;)02:13
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Whistlerhow can i start smart update?02:14
RiddellSeveas: yep :)02:14
Seveaslol!02:14
misakaTriggers on keywords in here? You guys must be commited. ;] 02:14
EudoxusIs there a Netlimiting software available for linux?02:14
SeveasWhistler, by hitting the smart update button...02:14
Seveasmisaka, Riddell is the kubuntu-leader02:14
Eudoxuswhere you can control download and upload speed from individual applications02:14
Whistleri cant find it02:14
Whistler:d02:14
misakaSeveas - Ah. That's commited indeed. ;] 02:15
SeveasWhistler, hit mark all upgrades and choose smart upgrade02:15
misakaHrm. Has anyone experienced problems with k3b where windows show up off-screen and unreachable?02:15
misakaOr is it one of those 'just me' things ...02:15
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zerokillshow do i switch between different desktop environments like kde and xfce and gnome02:18
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mjrzerokills, the gdm menu provides a choice02:18
mjr(gdm is the graphical login screen)02:18
mindspinafter updating kde, i had some weird effects in window behaviour, (poping up and changing focus) I have now disabled acpi but Im not sure if this is the solution.02:19
Seveaswindow behaviour and acpi aren't related...02:19
mindspinuntil now it seems to work anyone shared that experience?02:19
afonithow does one do synaptic upgrades without the cdrom when it asks for the cdrom to be inserted?02:20
jacobI can see my neighbor's router's info on iwlist eth1 scan (ap, essid, channel, encryption=off) and my settings in iwconfig match, but my pings to 192.168.0.1 time out. What should my next step be?02:20
mindspinacpi showd strange effects on my notebook here02:20
Seveasafonit, remove the cdrom from the enabled sources02:20
DaylighthaterCan I ask a game question? Does anyone know if there is a linux client for kalonline www.kalonline.com02:20
afonitseveas:  well that is easy, ok I'll try that02:20
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misakaDaylighthater - Ask google ...02:21
DaylighthaterI did :d02:22
Seveasjacob, ask your neighbout to let you use his router,,,02:22
afonitsveas: that worked, thanks alot02:22
Seveasyw02:22
jacobSeveas, I don't know whose it is.02:22
Seveasjacob, then why do you use it?02:22
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jacobif he didn't want people using it, he'd use wep02:23
Seveasjacob, we do not support this kind of illegal activities02:23
bigfoot1hello all. I'm a newbie to Ubuntu/Linux. I have some 2 minor problems. After I hibernate my computer, and I try to get back on (by pressing the power button on the box), I get to see Ubuntu again but it's frozen. The other problem is that I have chosen to have some power management with my screen/display. In Prefencences-->Screensaver-->Advanced Tab-->upper right quadrant, I have checked all 3 of the boxes there. After some time away from my02:23
bigfoot1 computer, when I return and hit a key on the keyboard or move the mouse, nothing happens, the screen does not go from off to on. If you have any feedback, I'm all ears. Thank you for helping a newbie.02:23
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zerokillsgdm automatically loads?02:23
jacobso what law is that against again?02:23
misakabigfoot1 - You're really best off trying to make questions as short and concise as possible, dude.02:24
Seveasjacob, that depends on your country02:24
bionicHello, im trying to run a XviD file in mplayer, using -vo xv. But keep getting It seems there is no Xvideo support for your video card available. Do I need to install xvid codec or something?02:24
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Seveasmisaka, but at least he gives all info :)02:24
misakabigfoot1 - I don't think anybody here is paid to try to sort through long/complicated questions.02:24
Seveasbigfoot1, hybernate is not quite stable yet in Linux, best not to use it02:24
misakaSeveas - Well, he's off to a good start in that dept, s'true. ;] 02:24
jacobusa in this case, and it's not illegal to connect to an open, unsecured network and do no damage02:25
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Goshawkwhat about anjuta 2.0 on ubuntu? is there a non official repository?02:25
bigfoot1misaka, i tried to make them as specific as possible so that we could get to work immediately 8-).    I'm sorry you find my questions long and complicated. Could it be because I put the whole story into one post, rather than chopping it up into several? 8-)02:25
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misakabigfoot1 - Ya, two questions in one long post ... ;] 02:26
bigfoot1seveas, okay. I was able to use it a while back, so i was wondering why it stopped working as it was.02:26
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bigfoot1misaka, yes. One reason i put the 2 questions in one was because they may be related.02:26
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Seveasbigfoot1, you should send out a mail to the ubuntu-users mailing list, there are lots of smart people ther so you might get a better answer than from me02:26
misakabigfoot1 - You're right, they may be. If you've changed your kernel lately then maybe that could be related ... either way, I've not encountered those issues recently, so can't really comment.02:27
bigfoot1seveas, okay. Just curious, what do you use instead of hibernate? Or do you just leave your comp/monitor always on?02:27
misakaIt's been a long while since I had my screensaver lock-up on me, I think it was the beta NVidia drivers days.02:27
holycowhttp://www.linspire.com/lindows_storefront.php?own=yes#virussafe  <-- heh02:28
holycowlinspire sells a virus checker02:28
holycowwow02:28
Seveasalways on (laptop with an uptime of > 1 month, and i travel a LOT)02:28
holycowi hate windows users seriously02:28
Seveaslinspire is pure crap...02:28
misakaI just use cpu freq scaling to lower the CPU burn.02:28
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bigfoot1what's uptime? is that the length of time you have had your cpu on?02:28
bigfoot1seveas.02:28
holycowthe sell virus protection ... *blink*02:28
Seveasbigfoot1, yes02:28
Seveastype the command uptime in a terminal :)02:29
Seveas 14:29:09 up  1:43,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.04, 0.1102:29
Seveasghe02:29
bigfoot1seveas, re: the mailing list, do you think i should ask them about the screensaver lockup issue, or the hibernate issue, or both?02:29
misakaSeveas - That' ain't a month. ;] 02:29
Seveasso much for the month uptime, i forgot that i rebooted :)02:29
misakaheh.02:29
Whistler18:29:42 up  1:17,  2 users,  load average: 0.48, 0.41, 0.3702:29
bigfoot1 21:31:59 up 14 min,  2 users,  load average: 0.21, 0.27, 0.1902:30
jbroomeSeveas: yeah, that was an odd looking month. :)02:30
Whistlerthis means my system total uptime is 18h?02:30
bigfoot1why 2 users?02:30
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Seveasbigfoot1, every terminal counts as 102:30
Seveasand the graphical environment too02:30
misakaEesh, I've got all you guys beat with my OSX machine.02:30
jbroomeWhistler: one hour 17 minutes02:30
jbroome18:29 is the time where you are now02:30
Seveasso 1 for the gui and one for the terminal where you ran uptime02:30
misaka14:29  up 8 days, 12:35, 3 users, load averages: 0.93 0.57 0.5902:30
misakamahahaha02:30
Seveaswow02:31
Seveasquite a load...02:31
misakaYa, well, this _is_ OSX ...02:31
Seveashmm02:31
misakaOSX isn't the most efficient OS, unfortunately.02:31
Seveas:)02:31
misakaBut then, I do have a shit-load of apps running.02:31
jbroome08:31:25 up 249 days, 18:54,  1 user,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.0002:31
Seveasbut it looks cool though :)02:31
misakajbroome - Show-off.02:31
bigfoot1seveas, should i give both questions to the mailing list? or is the hibernate issue resolved already between the 2 of us?02:31
Seveasjbroome, foolish :)02:32
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Seveasdon't you ever install kernel updates?02:32
jbroomeHad a 500 + uptime box, but some doofus rebboted it02:32
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Seveasbigfoot1, both02:32
misakaSeveas - Who says he's even running Linux? ;] 02:32
Seveasmisaka, apart from VMS all oses need rebooting02:32
jbroomeSeveas: it's a fileserver that isn't open to the outside except for ssh.02:32
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Seveasjbroome, still i would keep my kernel up-to-date02:32
termitexmms-mad_0.5.4-1_i386.deb = is that the one i need to open with synaptic?02:33
bigfoot1seveas, how do we keep our kernels up-to-date?02:33
Seveastermite, no02:33
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termiteis that xmms install file that is02:33
misakaSeveas - But not all OSs have the same penchant for rebooting ...02:33
bob2500 days = you have local root exploits02:33
Seveasdo not manually download debs02:33
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termiteSeveas its me monkness02:33
bigfoot1Seveas, how do we know if our kernel is up-to-date?02:33
termiteSeveas then how do i download stuff?02:33
misakaNot all OSs have as many kernel updates as Linux, for example.02:33
bob2termite: just let synaptic download it for you02:33
Seveastermite, just search for xmms in synaptic02:33
termitewhat about vlc02:33
bob2misaka: most just don't acknowledge them, afaict02:33
Seveasand mark it for installation02:33
termiteis that in synaptic as well02:33
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bob2e.g. windows 2000 has outstanding local root exploits02:34
termitewhat if i need to install something thats a .deb file then what do i do...02:34
misakabob2 - Well, ya, there's also that.02:34
Seveasbigfoot1, by installing linux-686 (or whatever you need) and regularly running apt-get upgrade02:34
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bigfoot1seveas, why do you say that all OSes need rebooting? I thought LInux was an OS that never needed it.02:34
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Seveasbigfoot1, it does, on kernel upgrades02:34
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misakabigfoot1 - Need isn't the same as *wanting* ... you probably *want* to reboot your Linux machine for kernel updates, more than you *need* to.02:35
termiteSeveas i want to install vlc02:35
Seveasthe only OS i know that supports rolling kernel upgrades is VMS02:35
termitei downloaded the deb file02:35
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termitenow what?02:35
erbhi02:35
Seveastermite, then enable universe and multiverse, throw out the .deb and use synaptic02:35
Seveasdidn't you read the pages i gave you AT ALL?02:35
termitewhat if that machine is nt on the internet02:35
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termitethe ubuntu machine that is02:35
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termiteim using a usb flash to get apps to that machine02:35
Seveastermite, then download *ubuntu* debs from packages.ubuntu.com02:35
Seveasnot random debs from other sources02:36
termitecant i just use any deb package02:36
Seveasno, definitely not02:36
termitewhys that thought they are the same02:36
termite:/02:36
paxonSeveas, /etc/sudoers problem fixed, thanks. rw inite=/bin/bash did it.02:36
Seveas:)02:36
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bob2termite: no, they're not the same02:38
bionicIm trying to play a xvid file in mplayer, it shuts down with Couldn't open /dev/3dfx. Installed the w3codecs. Ati card. Anyone please?02:38
termiteso i can run any package on the package.ubuntu.com with synaptic?02:39
Seveasno, you should use: dpkg -i filename.deb02:39
misakabionic - You don't have a 3dfx card do you?02:39
termitek ta Seveas02:39
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misakabionic - Looks like mplayer is trying to access /dev/3dfx for some reason ... how're you running it?02:39
LokeDKI installed ubuntu yesterday, but my sound doesn't work. I have a Creative SoundBlaster Audigy 2 card.. alsamixer says alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device and in lspci there's 0000:00:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs: Unknown device 000802:40
termiteso synaptic can only install programs that are already on my pc which are optional?02:40
LokeDKAnd nothing is wrong with my card - because in works in windows02:40
bionicmisaka, mplayer -vo xv file.avi02:41
misakabionic - Any other error messages in mplayer's output?02:41
LokeDKand works fine in suse 9.3 too02:41
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termitei cant find the vlc package on the packages.ubuntu02:42
termite:;/02:42
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LincxHey02:42
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misakatermite - I haven't been following ... why can't you find vlc in synaptic?02:43
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termiteis it therE?02:43
termitesoz i didnt check02:43
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termiteim using a windows machine here02:43
termitemy ubuntu machine is somewhere else02:43
bionicmisaka, actually it complains about xv, It seems there is no Xvideo support for your video card available. No support for Ati Radeon 9800?02:43
termiteim just get ting programs02:43
DeadStarhello.. can somebody tell me how to change the server from where apt-get is geting the requested packages?02:43
misakatermite - It's in synaptic for me, so long as you've got the right repositories setup it should go.02:44
misakaDeadStar - That's stored in /etc/apt/sources.list ... assuming you're not using synaptic.02:44
termiterepositories setup?02:44
termitei didnt understand that02:44
misakaDeadStar - In which case, you should change it in there I think.02:44
carambolwww.ubuntuguide.org02:44
misakabionic - It may not be enabled properly in your X11 configuration file.02:45
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DeadStarmisaka, i found it.. thanks..02:45
termitemisaka ive just made a clean install of ubuntu02:45
bionicmisaka, the graphic card works fine, im playing q3 24/7 :p02:45
caramboltermite,is for u02:45
DeadStardo you recomand me a adress?02:45
termitewithout an internet commection02:45
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termitewill it have vlc?02:45
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misakatermite - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components02:46
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misakatermite - That talks about repositories. If you're using the universe component then vlc should be available.02:47
termitesudo apt-get install xmms02:47
termitewget -c http://frankandjacq.com/ubuntuguide/xmms-wma_1.0.4-2_i386.deb02:47
termitesudo dpkg -i xmms-wma_1.0.4-2_i386.deb02:47
termiteok02:47
termitethat computer does not have an internet connection02:48
termiteso if i just copy xmms-wma_1.0.4-2_i386.deb to that machine02:48
bionicmisaka, works fine in vlc tho, maybe its not supported by mplayer? Would like to get that to work too.02:48
termiteand just run sudo dpkg will it work?02:48
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misakabionic - How about not using '-vo xv'? Considering the error you're getting is related to that ...02:49
misakaTry just 'mplayer file.avi'.02:49
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misakatermite - That'll make it harder, because xmms will probably want other packages installed too.02:50
bionicmisaka, tried that, the file starts, but its very small, and it doesnt change on fullscreen02:50
bionicthe picture is ver y small i mean.02:50
misakabionic - It doesn't scale it?02:50
holycowyou know what tho, nvu is not too shabby indeedy02:50
termitethat site helps misaka thanks02:51
misakabionic - Try '-zoom' on the cmdline, or try reading the manpage for mplayer. ;] 02:51
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termitebut where will i find a complete list of the stuff which i can install02:51
termitein universe02:52
termiteor mutiverse02:52
DeadStardows somebody knows a good adress for apt-get .. where i can find packages like mc ....02:52
misakatermite - Isn't xmms on the ubuntu cd?02:52
termitemisaka i just need to install vlc02:52
misakaDeadStar - ubuntu has mc ... have you enabled universe/multiverse?02:52
termitei want to watch some stuff for today02:52
misakatermite - So ... no cd?02:52
DeadStarow02:52
termitei have the cd02:52
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DeadStar:D02:52
r3d0xXuS``so im back :D02:52
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r3d0xXuS``Seavas02:53
tolaI'm experimenting with hoary as a web server and am trying to get horde imp working. I apt-get installed imp3 but I'm not clear on what the installer configured automatically and what I am expected to do myself as some of the steps listed in the bundled documentation have certainly already been done. How can I find out what steps I actually need to take for a working system?02:53
r3d0xXuS``Seveas02:53
bionicArgh, did you say something misaka?02:53
termitemisaka i have the cd02:53
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cccbionic: try: mplayer -vo xv -zoom02:53
Seveaswb r3d0xXuS``02:53
r3d0xXuS``ok02:53
_oDy_hi, how do I setup nfs in ubuntu?02:53
r3d0xXuS``install works02:53
Seveasnice02:53
misakabionic - Try '-zoom' on the cmdline, or try reading the manpage for mplayer. ;] 02:53
misaka;] 02:53
r3d0xXuS``but how i add a connection for my dsl?02:53
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r3d0xXuS``so i want connect with ubuntu02:53
misakatermite - Hrm. And no vlc on there? I don't know offhand if it's there or not.02:54
termitemisaka so i cant just install a debian package?02:54
termitewith a command line?02:54
misakatermite - That's what we're talking about, isn't it?02:54
termiteyes02:54
Seveasr3d0xXuS``, try sudo ppoeconf in a terminal02:54
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r3d0xXuS``k mom02:55
misakaInstall the debian package that is on the CD, if it's on there ... that I can't answer offhand.02:55
DeadStarhmm i modified the sources.list so that i could take also from universe..but still isn't working for mc.. mc has support for amd54 procesors? May this be the problem?02:55
r3d0xXuS``in recovery?02:55
Seveasr3d0xXuS``, no02:55
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termitebut they said u cant but on every site it just says sudo dpkg -i .deb02:55
Seveasin a terminal when you boot up normally02:55
termitei want to know why my glib is not working02:55
r3d0xXuS``ah okay02:55
termite;/02:55
r3d0xXuS``also logout and use login in a terminal?02:55
termiteit says its not installed but i installed the c++ compiter via synaptic02:55
Seveasr3d0xXuS``, no, just open a terminal :)02:55
r3d0xXuS``k02:55
Seveasrightclick on the desktop and select new terminal02:56
r3d0xXuS``sudo ppoeconf ?02:56
Seveasyes02:56
Seveasehm02:56
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Seveaspppoeconf02:56
LokeDKHow can I test my sound?02:56
Seveas3 p's02:56
termitemisaka - > i have this file02:56
termitevlc_0.8.1-1ubuntu7_i386.deb02:56
SeveasLokeDK, settings, preferences, sound02:56
r3d0xXuS``hmm02:57
Seveastab sound events02:57
r3d0xXuS``nothing does it02:57
LokeDKthanks02:57
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Seveastermite, sudo dpkg -i vlc_0.8.1-1ubuntu7_i386.deb02:57
r3d0xXuS``ah now02:57
termiteSeveas : i have vlc_0.8.1-1ubuntu7_i386.deb...should i just run a dpkg -i on it?02:57
Seveasyes :)02:57
termiteshweet02:57
r3d0xXuS``ok ill do02:57
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misakaSeveas - Isn't that going to ask him to satisfy a bunch of dependancies?02:58
Seveasmisaka, well, then he'll have to download these too...02:58
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termitemisaka are u referring to my question?02:59
misakaSeveas - Ugh. That's going to be fun. ;] 02:59
misakatermite - Yes.02:59
termiteshit02:59
termitei dont have internet on my ubuntu machine ;/02:59
termitethis is impossible02:59
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misakaWhich is why I was telling you to use synaptic, but without an Internet connection, it's going to be a pain.02:59
misakatermite - Give it an Internet connection. ;] 02:59
termite:o03:00
termitewill try03:00
misakatermite - Or grab a single-CD Linux distribution that has vlc and all the other goodies on it.03:00
misakaKnoppix might, for example.03:00
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Seveastermite, hang on03:00
termiteok ok03:00
termiteplz help :>03:00
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termiteim using hoary btw.03:01
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r3d0xXuShahaha03:03
r3d0xXuSit works :D03:03
r3d0xXuSthanks Seavas03:03
orhshey all! :) anyone know about a good packet sniffer for linux?03:03
DeadStarhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/7703:03
DeadStarcan somebody help me?03:04
Seveastermite, download this: http://ubuntulinux.nl/~dennis/vlc.tar.gz unpack it and run dpkg -i *.deb03:04
snuvaorhs, ettercap, ethereal etc etc03:04
r3d0xXuSSeveas thanks :D :D :D03:04
Seveasr3d0xXuS, yw :)03:04
r3d0xXuSim in ubuntu connected :D03:04
Seveashave fun with ubuntu :)03:04
r3d0xXuSfinally .D03:04
termiteSeveas so u sure i wont need anything else?03:04
Seveastermite, i don't have vlc installed and used apt-get -d install vlc03:04
r3d0xXuSehm one thing: Seveas: how i install icq ?!03:04
Seveasso i downloaded all packaged you need03:04
Seveasand put hem in that file :)03:04
misakaSeveas - You're a real trooper. ;] 03:04
Seveasr3d0xXuS, use gaim for that03:05
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Seveasapplications -> internet -> gaim03:05
r3d0xXuSah that03:05
termitethanks a lot Seveas03:05
termitehope it workz0rs03:05
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SeveasDeadStar, run apt-get update03:05
termitehmm that site is a bit slow ....is there any other place hosting it?03:05
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SeveasDeadStar, and OMG, that server was down for the last hour, i'm so glad you didn't try it earlier ;)03:06
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Seveastermite, no, I only uploaded it there03:06
DeadStar:D03:06
Seveasand it's quite fast, but mod_bandwidth limits it a bit :)03:06
r3d0xXuS:o03:06
termiteim getting 1.82 kb off it ;/03:06
termitecan u put it on yousendit.com for me plz03:07
Seveastermite, that's not good03:07
r3d0xXuSSeveas: why is my graphiccard so slow for screensaver, coz i got gef6800 ?03:07
Seveasmust be something else that causes the slowdown03:07
termiteif u can03:07
termiteits not myside03:07
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termiteyousendit.com should be quick03:07
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Seveastermite, it is03:07
Seveasi get 200 K/s from ubuntulinux.nl03:08
termitecan u chuck it there03:08
termitehmm03:08
Seveasr3d0xXuS, geforce?03:08
r3d0xXuSyeah03:08
Seveasr3d0xXuS: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto03:08
Seveasread that03:08
termiteSeveas so vlc was not in synaptic?03:08
Seveasthe default (open source) driver is terrible, you need the binary driver03:08
Seveastermite, it is03:08
r3d0xXuSok ill do03:09
termiteso i dont need to download it then03:09
Seveasbut this file contains all dependencies too03:09
termiteaha03:09
Seveaswill save you some curses :)03:09
termitehehe03:09
misakatermite - Synaptic downloads from an Internet site ...03:09
termiteoh........03:09
termitethey should rather have put it on cds03:09
Seveasmisaka, (ping!!)03:09
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misakatermite - Either that or from the CD you have, but since vlc isn't on the cd, and you can't get onto the Internet, you have to find another way.03:09
misakaSeveas - *nod*03:09
Seveasnever figured that he missed that point :)03:09
misakatermite - Right, but there's already way too much stuff on the CDs ... no room for lil' ol' vlc. ;] 03:10
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misakatermite - Which is why I was suggesting maybe another live CD distribution that had it.03:10
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termitevlc is the king03:10
termite>03:10
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t-e-ohow do I stop gdm from starting at boot?03:10
misakaSeveas - Ya, it was lurking in my mind there, finally got it out. ;] 03:10
r3d0xXuSsudo apt-get install nvidia-glx03:10
r3d0xXuSops03:10
r3d0xXuSwrong window :x03:10
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termiteor can u suggest another way where i can run xdiv/divx/mp3s03:11
termite*xvid.03:11
misakatermite - Nah, I like vlc, I don't think that the ubuntu CD has any movie players on it, offhand, but not sure.03:11
Seveasr3d0xXuS, are you on intel or amd?03:11
misakatermite - They don't concentrate on that because to have a proper movie player means including a lot of packages.03:11
termiteok03:11
misakatermite - Doesn't let them include other, more important stuff.03:11
r3d0xXuSamd6403:11
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Seveasr3d0xXuS, ah03:11
Seveasinstall linux-amd6403:12
r3d0xXuSinto terminal ?03:12
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Seveasthat'll drag in the most recent kernel and drivers03:12
Seveasr3d0xXuS, do you run the 64bit version of Ubuntu?03:12
r3d0xXuS:/ screensaver its still lagging03:12
r3d0xXuSno03:12
Seveasah ok03:12
termitew00t there is a 64 bit03:12
r3d0xXuS32bit i think03:12
Seveasinstall linux-k7 then03:12
r3d0xXuShow? im nub at linux :X03:12
r3d0xXuSbtw newbie03:12
Seveassudo aptitude install linux-k703:13
Seveas:)03:13
r3d0xXuSsudo aptitude install linux-k703:13
r3d0xXuSk03:13
r3d0xXuSmom03:13
Seveasyou need to restart X to see any effect from nvidia-glx-enable by the way ...03:13
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r3d0xXuSah ok03:13
r3d0xXuSill restart now03:13
termiteSeveas u uploading it?03:13
Seveasyes03:13
termitesomeone wants to kick me out of here ;03:14
termite;/03:14
Seveashttp://s36.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0A8TO46RIXSVJ3S3ELKDR0VNJQ03:14
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Seveasit says that it couldn't send you a mail, but you can download it there03:14
termiteokies03:14
termitethanks :>03:15
Seveasyw03:15
termiteSeveas why do u use ubuntu as compared with other linux distros?03:15
Seveastermite, because it's the best03:16
DeadStarapt-get is very good and it's quite easier than Debian..03:17
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DeadStaralso it's good for laptops..03:17
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DeadStarnotebooks:D03:17
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r3d0xXuSSeveas03:18
DeadStarSeveas, thanks for help i manage to install mc, and now i'm installing other applications..03:18
r3d0xXuSSeveas: how i can see that nvidia driver installed?03:19
Seveasr3d0xXuS, run glxgears from a terminal03:19
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Seveasand wait a few seconds03:19
Seveasit'll report the framerate it gets03:19
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r3d0xXuSXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".03:20
r3d0xXuSglxgears: Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual.03:20
Seveashave you run nvidia-glx-enable?03:21
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r3d0xXuSi dont know03:21
r3d0xXuSi used that sudo install this03:21
r3d0xXuSdunno what command03:21
_kazis there some sort of photo album type software available for ubuntu?03:21
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tritium_kaz, gphoto03:21
Seveasthere are 2 sudo command03:22
Seveascommands*03:22
Seveasyou need to run both03:22
_kaztritium: thanks :] 03:22
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tritium_kaz, gphoto2, actually03:22
r3d0xXuSgimme the link please03:22
Seveashttps://test.wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto03:22
Whistlerhelp i was adding pannels and pc freezed03:22
Seveasr3d0xXuS, and also: you *must* have linux-k7 installed03:22
Whistlernow there is no panels03:22
Whistlerhow can i enable them?03:22
r3d0xXuSthat sudo -install linux-k703:23
Whistlerhelp me03:23
Whistleranybody plz03:23
Seveassudo apt-get install linux-k703:23
SeveasWhistler, no panels at all?03:23
Whistlernope03:23
Whistlernone03:23
Seveasrun the following from a terminal:03:23
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Seveasgnome-panel &03:23
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Whistleri have detected panels is already running so i will exit03:24
Whistlerit gives me this error msg03:24
r3d0xXuSPaketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig03:24
r3d0xXuSAbhngigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut... Fertig03:24
r3d0xXuSE: Konnte Paket linux-k7 nicht finden03:24
Whistlerplz help me03:25
Whistleri am scared03:25
r3d0xXuSE: cannot package linux-k7 find03:25
r3d0xXuSSeveas03:25
Seveasr3d0xXuS, try linux-amd6403:25
r3d0xXuSE: cannot package linux-k7 find03:25
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pfpWhistler: logout+login usually takes care of that03:25
r3d0xXuSsame03:25
r3d0xXuSE: cannot package linux-amd64 find03:25
Seveasr3d0xXuS, hmm03:26
Whistlerpfp it doesnt helped03:26
Whistleraaa03:26
Seveasr3d0xXuS, can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list on paste.ubuntulinux.nl please03:26
tritiumr3d0xXuS, do you have "restricted" component enabled in your /etc/apt/sources.list?03:26
Whistleri typed gnome-panels off and pannels appeared03:26
SeveasWhistler, so you have your panels back now?03:27
Whistlerfuck03:28
r3d0xXuSSeveas: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/7803:28
Whistlernot again03:28
Whistlerbottom panels are working03:28
Whistlerand headers not03:28
Whistler=[[03:28
Seveasr3d0xXuS, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3803:28
Seveasr3d0xXuS, and in a terminal type: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list03:28
Seveasremove *all* the text currently in that file03:28
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Seveasand put the text you find at paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 there03:29
goye2czHey, got an ALSA firmware problem, synaptic tells me I have version 1.0.9-1, but the command "cat /proc/asound/version" tells me I have Version 1.0.6. help?03:29
Seveasthen save the file, run sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get install linux-k703:29
goye2czI would rather have the later03:29
goye2czrelease03:29
r3d0xXuSk03:29
r3d0xXuSwait wait wait03:30
r3d0xXuSi cant fast03:30
r3d0xXuSalso03:30
r3d0xXuSthat text in to source.list?03:30
Seveasyes03:30
r3d0xXuSok wait03:30
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r3d0xXuSok saved03:31
r3d0xXuSwhat no03:31
r3d0xXuSnow*03:31
Seveasthen save the file, run sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get install linux-k703:31
r3d0xXuSsudo apt-get update <- into terminal?03:31
EudoxusI used Ubuntu to setup my printer. The correct driver is there. However, Only a small upper part of the test page comes out. And printing something else doesn't work. Seems that it is not getting through to the printer. Why?03:32
EudoxusI get Parallel port busy... or somethign like that in the printer settings03:32
_kaztritium: i was also looking for something more like gpc.sourceforge.net  a photo collection manager03:32
r3d0xXuSSeveas: sudo apt-get update <- into terminal?03:32
flickerflyWhen I type apt-get install mtx it can't find the mtx package. What am I missing?03:32
_kazis there something better than that?03:32
Seveasr3d0xXuS, yes03:32
goye2czI'm coming up with alsa firmware Version 1.0.6 on my sytem. If I wanted to remove it, how would I go about that?03:33
r3d0xXuSok updating03:33
Seveasflickerfly, you need to have universe enabled03:33
r3d0xXuSwoohoo03:33
r3d0xXuS353 KB/s :P03:33
Seveasnice :)03:33
misakagoye2cz - To start, alsa doesn't have a 'firmware' version ... just a version. :] 03:34
flickerflySeveas: ? do you have a link with directions on that? I don't know what Universe is03:34
tritium_kaz, you might search through the output of "apt-cache search photo", then, and look for something that might suit your needs...03:34
_kazthis too http://directory.fsf.org/webauth/palbums/03:35
misakagoye2cz - And the other thing is that the package version, that you see with dpkg/synaptic, isn't necessarily the same as the kernel drivers version, that you see in /proc/asound/version.03:35
goye2czmisaka: all I know is that's included in the name of somethign I have to have.03:35
misakaAt least, I don't think they're necessarily the same.03:35
r3d0xXuSokay is ready Seveas?03:35
Seveasflickerfly: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto03:35
r3d0xXuSshould i write now: sudo apt-install linux-k7 ?03:35
Seveasyes03:35
Seveasagain in the terminal :)03:35
EudoxusNoone?03:35
tritiumr3d0xXuS, apt-get install, not apt-install03:35
r3d0xXuSinstalling03:35
r3d0xXuSyahoow :o03:36
r3d0xXuS sudo apt-get install linux-k703:36
r3d0xXuS:P03:36
flickerflyThanks Seveas!03:36
misakagoye2cz - I've got the same setup you describe, 1.0.6 in /proc/asound/version, and 1.0.8-4ubuntu4 for the package version.03:36
r3d0xXuS60%03:36
r3d0xXuSyay :D03:36
Seveasflickerfly, for a ready-to-use sources.list go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3803:36
r3d0xXuSthis installer compile the kernel into new cernel ?!03:36
r3d0xXuSkernel*03:36
r3d0xXuSreading database....03:37
Seveasit won't compile a thing03:37
Seveasthe kernels are pre-compiled03:37
r3d0xXuSok finnished03:37
r3d0xXuSwhat now ? :o03:37
r3d0xXuSreboot?03:37
Seveasok, now you need to reboot, and when you reboot, choose the kernel 2.6.10-5-k7 line.03:37
r3d0xXuSok03:37
r3d0xXuSbrb03:38
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goye2czmisaka: on the ardour channel someone came to the conclusion that my package of alsa-firmware didn't support the us-122.03:40
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littlezoperi'm getting a bunch of messages in syslog that say only "localhost -- MARK --".  any idea what that means?03:41
Seveaslittlezoper, you can ignore these03:42
littlezoperwhat do they mean?03:42
AlwaysModestwhen i boot into ubuntu i get an error message first thing that says "error failed to initialize hal"03:42
littlezoperi foudn those as I was trying to find out why my machine locked this morning...03:42
Seveassome driver reports that it's still running i guess03:43
flickerflylittlezoper: you have the syslog configure to mark the logs regularly. It is a feature of your logger that can be turned off if desired.03:43
littlezoperack!03:43
nJessim having a hard time connecting to anything from ubuntu (things keep timing out) but i have no problems on my windows machine on the same network, why would that happen?03:43
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littlezoperflickerfly: ok03:43
Seveasflickerfly, ah ok, so I was almost right :)03:43
flickerfly:-)03:43
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flickerflySeveas: it can be ignored03:43
littlezoperflickerfly and Seveas: good to know...thanks...03:44
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mindspinflickerfly connecting how ? http ? smb? ftp?03:44
nJesslike for instance, i can connect to some irc servers with ease, others time out repeatedly03:44
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mindspinoops was nJess03:45
nJessthings on the local network seem to be okay03:45
nJessits just the internet thats acting up03:45
SeveasnJess, is it only irc?03:45
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flickerflymindspin: ? what's connecting?03:46
nJesswell, firefox seems to lag more than usual as well03:46
Seveasok03:46
Seveasand mail?03:46
__artyhi, I'm using breezy, I can run openoffice2 as root but not as a normal user?? error is ...  openoffice03:46
__arty*** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x080ddb00 ***03:46
__artyAborted03:46
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nJessi havn't used mail03:46
aspr1hi guys03:46
Seveas__arty, look at the topic: do not use breezy03:46
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mindspinflickerfly sorry i meant nJess not you03:46
aspr1nuce to meet u all03:46
SeveasnJess, please try something else than irc and web too03:46
aspr1nice to meet u all03:46
flickerflymindspin: :-) Ok03:46
nJessseveas, i don't really have anything to try....03:47
SeveasnJess, IRC lagging can be explained by not having an identd which currenyly most IRC servers require03:47
Seveasfor Firefox there is possibly another cause:03:47
SeveasnJess: Open firefox and go to about:config. Now search for network.dns.disableIPV6 and set that value to true. Restart Firefox to see the effect.03:47
nJessahh03:47
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nJesswell i can't connect to freenode03:47
SeveasnJess, you might as well disable ipv6 completely, you can find out how on wiki.ubuntu.com03:48
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orhshmm iam haveing problems installing a different splash screen..03:48
zerokillshey guys, i installed xfce, but it doesnt come up on the gdm list, any ideas?03:48
r3d0xXuSok03:48
r3d0xXuSit works Seveas: Nvidia logo has been shown03:48
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Seveaszerokills, have you installed the xfce4 metapackage through apt?03:48
Seveasr3d0xXuS, neat!03:49
nJessseveas, im using warty...would that matter?03:49
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r3d0xXuSok :D03:49
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r3d0xXuSthanks Seveas03:49
zerokillsseveas: no, whats the package name?03:49
SeveasnJess, no it's the same on both in this case03:49
Seveaszerokills, xfce403:49
Seveas:)03:49
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zerokills:) thanks03:49
xiaogilis there a command line soft for IRC03:50
Seveasxiaogil, yes03:50
Seveastry irssi03:50
_kazfwiw, digikam (for kde) just made this box a kubuntu convert :>03:50
tritiumyes, irssi is nice :)03:50
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_kazbut photo management is the most important function for the person who will use it.03:51
aspr1my cd's not yet received they stopped sending them??03:51
aspr1any idea??03:52
Seveasaspr1, no, but it takes some time for them to send the CD's03:52
chrissturmkaz: f-spot could make it a gnome convert again03:52
r3d0xXuSSeveas: do u know Steam for Half-Life games and stuff?03:52
mindspinyesterday someone mentioned something about waiting for five months ;-)03:52
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sweetyhai..03:52
_kazi was checking out f-spot too...  KDE has much more eye-candy and seems more newbie friendly.03:52
aspr1ok03:53
sweetyhai kaloz..03:53
mindspinkde rulez /me duck and cover03:53
_kazthis is for my computer illiterate aunt03:53
nJesshmm i should probably order some more CDs03:53
Seveasr3d0xXuS, i don't play games that much, usually i stick to supertux :)03:53
Seveasmindspin, that means he has ordered them before the release03:53
r3d0xXuShehe03:54
_kazI just wonder if there are any serious CONs to using kubuntu over ubuntu?03:54
Seveasthey started sending CDs in may03:54
Seveasso they have quite a backlog to catch up to03:54
misakagoye2cz - Sorry, I'm not sure how to update/change the alsa firmware package, I don't see it listed in ubuntu. Maybe it's a part of another package?03:54
mindspinkaz personal taste?03:54
Seveas_kaz, yes03:54
_kazslower security patch availability or anything?03:54
Seveaskde sucks :)03:54
chrissturmhehe03:54
r3d0xXuShehe03:54
_kazlol03:54
Seveasbut technical reasons: no03:54
_kazI like gnome03:54
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r3d0xXuSSeveas: where can i install mp3 decode for my mp3 player03:55
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Seveasexcept that gnome is the default for ubuntu and most devs concentrate on gnome03:55
Seveaskubuntu is mainly community work03:55
Riddell_kaz: kubuntu has the same security procedures as ubuntu (since they are the same distro)03:55
_kazbut I just took windows away from my aunt because she can't refrain from opening dancing-bears.exe every time one of her friends worms sends her something.03:55
termitelol03:55
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_kazso I have to keep things as simple as possible for her.03:55
Seveasoh and another reason not tu use kubunut: every time you say KDE in here, Riddell pops up :)))03:55
mindspinkde03:56
nJessi took windows away from my mom once03:56
nJessbut she punched me in the head03:56
Seveas_kaz, simple === gnome03:56
NicPlol03:56
termitewindows its easy03:56
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r3d0xXuSSeveas: where is the XMMS mp3 player at ubuntu?03:56
NicPno its not03:56
goye2czmisaka: I'm fast finding out that I really need a release more geared to multi-media, audio specifically.03:56
termiteubuntu has taken me the greater part of today to install something03:56
NicPos x is easy03:56
NicPwindows is not03:56
Seveasr3d0xXuS, aptitude install beep-media-player03:56
termitea simple vlc program03:56
Seveasbeep is a gtk2 (and thus better looking) port of xmms03:56
misakagoye2cz - If you're running Linux to do audio stuff, I'd agree.03:56
r3d0xXuSE: /home/redoxxus/.aptitude/config - %s konnte nicht zum schreiben geffnet werden (13 Keine Berechtigung)03:57
r3d0xXuSPaketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig03:57
r3d0xXuSAbhngigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut03:57
r3d0xXuSLese erweiterte Statusinformationen03:57
r3d0xXuSInitialisiere Paketstatus... Fertig03:57
r3d0xXuSE: Konnte Lockdatei /var/lib/dpkg/lock nicht ffnen - open (13 Keine Berechtigung)03:57
r3d0xXuSE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?03:57
_kazI think in a lot of cases we could swap people out with ubuntu/kubuntu & just tell them "its the new windows upgrade" :P03:57
mindspinis there #wm-bashing ?03:57
_kazand they would believe.03:57
goye2czmisaka: I'm getting recommended to use FC CCRMA03:57
Seveasr3d0xXuS, do NOT paste in here....03:57
NicPlol03:57
misaka_kaz - Give her Mozilla in kiosk-mode.03:57
Seveasand use sudo :)03:57
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misaka_kaz - Should be good enough. ;] 03:57
_kazhaha03:57
r3d0xXuSah ok lol03:57
r3d0xXuSalso sudo aptitude install beep-media-player?03:57
mindspinand most ppl here dont understand gerrrmann03:57
r3d0xXuShrhr03:57
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Seveasr3d0xXuS, when you start beep, first go to the preferences and change the output plugin to esound03:58
Seveasotherwise it won't do nothing :)03:58
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r3d0xXuSk its installed03:58
termitethankz Seveas03:58
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termitejust grabbed the vlc03:58
termitegonna try it now03:58
nJessi have a question03:58
termite*excited*03:58
Seveasr3d0xXuS, download this too: http://ubuntulinux.nl/~dennis/4Humans.tgz03:58
nJesswould i have better luck with a newer version of ubuntu working on my amd64 laptop?03:58
Seveasr3d0xXuS, and put that in /home/YOURNAME/.bmp/Skins03:59
nJessi tried warthog but it took ages to boot up03:59
r3d0xXuSyeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaah :o03:59
nJessand never actually worked03:59
r3d0xXuSit rox03:59
Seveasit's an Ubuntu skin for beep :)03:59
bigfoot1hi everyone. A question from a newbie about streaming media. I can play them (audio; audio/video) fine inside firefox with mplayer plugin. But what bothers me is the inability to control playback. I would like to be able to fastforward or rewind to a certain point. How can i do this? THank you.03:59
termitesince ubuntu is meant to be more user friendly they should have at least put xvid/divx support03:59
chrissturmnjess: hoary is much better for notebooks03:59
SeveasnJess, for amd64 you'd better go to hoary03:59
mindspin64 machines rock as far as I can see ;-)03:59
Seveasand definitely for notebooks03:59
nJessokay03:59
r3d0xXuSwhere to that03:59
r3d0xXuSk03:59
Seveasbigfoot1, ENOWAY03:59
nJessbecause the installer for warthog caused my laptop to have a thermal shutdown04:00
bigfoot1what's enoway? is that a typo for "no way"?04:00
SeveasnJess, really try hoary then04:00
r3d0xXuSthere isnt /.bmp/skins04:00
bigfoot1Seveas,...?04:00
Seveasit did the same for mine :)04:00
r3d0xXuSSeveas: it says only /home/myname/04:00
Seveasr3d0xXuS, /home/YOURNAME/.bmp/Skins04:00
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nJessthere we go04:00
r3d0xXuSthere is no .bmp/skins04:00
nJess80 dics04:00
nJessdiscs*04:00
Seveasr3d0xXuS, not in nautilus ;)(04:00
termitewhat does the -i do when u dpkg04:00
Seveasbut in the terminal there is04:00
Choubakatermite: installs :P04:01
Seveasr3d0xXuS, save it to your homedir04:01
r3d0xXuSlol04:01
r3d0xXuShow :o04:01
r3d0xXuSim newbie:x04:01
nJessr3d0xXuS, check that box to view hidden folders04:01
nJessyes?04:01
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termite:p04:01
Seveasr3d0xXuS, and in a terminal type: ~/4Humans.tgz ~/.bmp/Skins/04:01
Choubakatermite: foo.04:01
misakatermite - Try 'man dpkg'.04:01
Seveasr3d0xXuS, you do know how to save a file with firefox i suppose?04:01
Choubakatermite: I told you what it does, and I get a slap in the face.04:01
ChoubakaI demand more. respect.04:01
termite:>04:01
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r3d0xXuSsure lol04:01
termitei give u04:01
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termiterespeck04:01
termiteif u fix this ubuntu04:01
termitefor me04:01
termiteand make it play my pr0no04:02
Seveastermite: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct04:02
termite:<04:02
ChoubakaOk. How have you broken it? :P04:02
r3d0xXuSbash: /home/redoxxus/Desktop/4Humans.tgz: Access denied04:02
termiteoooi i didnt break code of conduct :>04:02
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gahanwhy cant i turn off ro shutdown computer from gnome or even gdm?04:02
termiteok time to try vlc04:03
termitebbl04:03
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gahani can only logout and login04:03
Seveasgahan, dunno, what did you do just before it stopped working?04:03
r3d0xXuStried with sudo04:03
r3d0xXuSsame04:03
r3d0xXuS-.-04:03
gahanSeveas: i dont exactly remember :|04:03
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Seveasgahan, so you start gnome with startx or does it run on bootup?04:03
gahani havent edited menu so far, is there menu editor?04:03
gahanit starts with gdm04:03
Seveasr3d0xXuS, open a terminal and type this:04:04
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Seveascd ~/.bmp/Skins04:04
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Seveaswget http://ubuntulinux.nl/~dennis/4Humans.tgz04:04
yahalomanyone here switched from fc4 to ubuntu?04:04
r3d0xXuSok im tin04:04
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r3d0xXuSData not found04:04
Seveasmake sure you have capitalization right04:05
r3d0xXuSyeah04:05
r1k0hi, I would like to disintall gnome in ubuntu how can I do that  ? thx by advance04:05
Seveasr1k0, raptitude remove gnome-desktop-environment04:05
bigfoot1Seveas, please tell me more about "enoway"04:05
bretzelHi - Question: Why is that gnome-panel don't show KDE notify icons anymore ? I remember it was working in hoary array-cd 5 ...04:05
Seveasr1k0, and use debfoster to clean up the bits it leaves behind04:06
r1k0Seveas, thank you very much for your answer :)04:06
r3d0xXuSi wrote first: cd ~/.bmp/Skins04:06
Seveasbigbootay, it means: can't be done04:06
r3d0xXuSthen it come a prompt:04:06
r3d0xXuSMyname@myhost:~/.bmp/Skins$04:06
r3d0xXuSthen i wrote04:06
bigfoot1Seveas, where can i get enoway? apparently, it's not in synaptic. thank you.04:06
Seveasbigfoot1, lol :)04:06
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r3d0xXuSwget http://ubuntulinux.nl/~dennis/4Humans.tgz04:06
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SeveasENOWAY is a geeky way of sayin that things aren't possible04:07
r1k0ok now I need to buy a pcmcia ethernet card but I dont know which one to buy, can someone recommend me one ?? ithought about a fa511 from netgear but iam not sure, thx04:07
bigfoot1Seveas, oh, i see. um, i have an idea, please let me know what you think of this idea: I'll stream the file as usual (mplayer plugin in firefox) and I'll record it somehow with another audio program. What do you think?04:07
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bigfoot1Seveas, you ever done something like that?04:08
Seveasnot on linux...04:08
bigfoot1seveas, you mean you haven't done it on linux, but it's possible and a good idea?04:09
Seveasbigbootay, i don't know whether it's possible04:09
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Seveasbigfoot1*04:09
gfxstylerhe04:09
gfxstylerhey04:09
gfxstylerwhats up?04:09
r3d0xXuSOo04:09
r3d0xXuSyo whatz up :)04:10
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bigfoot1okay, Seveas. 8-)04:10
bigfoot1Seveas, but is there a program that can record what ever is outputted ?04:10
gfxstylercan someone help me with my cam? its a very small problem i guess because i may know already whats wrong04:10
SeveasENOIDEA04:10
Seveas(a geeky way of saying: i don't know)04:11
misakabigfoot - Why not just grab the URL and play it with another media player?04:11
misakabigfoot - Like, vlc, xmms, etc?04:11
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bigfoot1misaka, coz I don't think these other media players will allow me to control playback?04:11
bigfoot1.04:11
bigfoot1would they?04:11
misakabigfoot - Sure they will.04:11
bigfoot1okay, misaka, let me try. thank you.04:11
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misakabigfoot - mplayer is just a bit scarce with the controls, it even has some keyboard commands that might help you out.04:12
gekohi guys04:12
gekocan i ceck win files form ubuntu?04:12
misakabigfoot - But, the best way is to just grab a player that has better GUI controls.04:12
gekoi mean with a partition with win on hd?04:12
bigfoot1misaka, ok. i have vlc, xmms, totem, music player. hmmm. which should i try first, i wonder. 8-)04:12
Seveasgeko, download http://ubuntulinux.nl/~dennis/windows_fstab and run that with sudo sh windows_fstab04:12
gfxstyleri plugin the cam and then the console says (new fullspeed usb blabla at address 10), its recognized as (usb spca5xx camera found blabla)... so i guess it should work (because with gentoo it worked too) ... anyway, /dev/video0 is empty, and gnomemeeting does not scan the cam, so whats wrong?04:13
misakabigfoot - Depends on the media ... but vlc is a good bet.04:13
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bigfoot1misaka, it's a windows media file ending with .wax extension. heard of it?04:14
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misakaor, NAK, as Seveas might say. ;] 04:14
bigfoot1nope?04:14
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misakabigfoot - If no other media player reads it, try gmplayer ... a version of mplayer with a gui.04:15
Seveasmisaka, evil one :)04:15
misakaSeveas - Yes, a little evil, but it'll still get the job done! ;] 04:16
Xabbu|Hm I have some problem with my gnomebaker. I can't burn any cd. It just say it failed the burning.04:16
Seveasas satan once said (Southpark the movie): Without evil there would be no good, so it must be good to be evil sometimes :)04:16
gfxstylerok guys got it working without your help04:17
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misakagfxstyler - Cool, congr... uh, nm.04:17
misakaEesh, some people can be so impatient.04:18
Seveas:)04:18
bigfoot1gmplayer scares me, misaka . 8-)04:18
misakabigfoot - Can't blame you ... which is why I suggested it last. ;] 04:19
bigfoot1misaka, the .wax streaming file works in VLC with playback control! yippee.04:19
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misakavlc rocks teh str34mz04:19
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lesshasteThere is some process that is beeping every 20 minutes or so. Is there something cunning I can run to see what it is?04:20
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misakalesshaste - Try going to your vt1 ... er, ctrl-alt-1 I think it is, or maybe c-a-f1.04:20
Seveas<c><a><f1>04:21
misakaMy fingers know the answer to that one, but I'm not in front of my linoox box.04:21
lesshastemisaka, and then?04:21
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misakalesshaste - Look for anything particularly interesting, wait 20 mins to see if anything pops up with the beek.04:21
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misakalesshaste - That's your console, if there are system errors they could show up there.04:22
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misakaBut, it's a shot in the dark ... I don't really know what'd be causing beeping, I probably would've just wiped the disk if that happened to me and I didn't know what it was.04:22
lesshastemisaka, drastic :)04:23
misakaKind of like the first time I saw the goetse man ... had to reintsall to make sure he was properly gone.04:23
lesshastepresumably to beep it must be accessing /dev/something?04:23
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misakalesshaste - Not necessarily ... sending ^G to a terminal can cause a beep, not sure if that requires a special access to /dev/something.04:23
lesshasteah ok04:24
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misakalesshaste - I assume this is a PC-speaker beep, not a soundcard beep?04:24
lesshasteyes.. pc speaker04:24
Seveasmisaka, lol04:24
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misakaI'd check for system errors first then. Oh, a-f7 to get back to your X11 terminal from the text console. ;] 04:24
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lesshasteno errors04:25
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misakalesshaste - Nothing special in /var/log/kern.log ?04:26
timmy__ok quick question, when i try and install the java plugin for mozilla firefox its all gd until its asks if i want to continue, at which point regardless of me selection [y]  it aborts. Why is this?04:26
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timmy__peeps?04:27
misakaNow there's a wide-open question.04:27
timmy__ok quick question, when i try and install the java plugin for mozilla firefox its all gd until its asks if i want to continue, at which point regardless of me selection [y]  it aborts. Why is this?04:27
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lesshaste only an mrtg cron job04:27
{Seb}exit04:27
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lesshastewhich runs every 5 minutes, and that has no reason or way to beep04:28
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misakatimmy - Probably 'cuz there's a bug in the installer ... ? Random guess there. ;] 04:28
lesshastemisaka, you mean /var/log/messages ?04:28
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timmy__hmmm, i just type the sudo command into the terminal04:28
timmy__can i do it any other way>04:28
misakalesshaste - I meant kern.log, but check as many log files as you care to.04:28
timmy__?04:28
lesshastemisaka, I don't have kern.log04:29
moparfan90hello. i just installed ubuntu and am getting alot of errors can some one help fix this?04:29
timmy__what kind of errors?04:29
timmy__~04:29
caonexi have an athlon thunderbird which mplayer package should i install?04:30
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timmy__nv04:30
_kazcan you run kde apps (like digikam) under gnome?04:30
Seveas_kaz, yes04:30
timmy__you people are shit04:30
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timmy__eat shit and die04:30
moparfan90 well when i boot up my computer i get alot of errors but they go away to fast for me to read and when the desktop loads it says error: failed to initalize HAL!04:30
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NicPlol04:31
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goofyheadedpunktimmy__: Bad day?04:31
_kazseveas: just apt-get install digikam  and it will work?04:31
Seveasif the package is available in the repositories: yes04:31
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_kazthe K-everything theme konquerer/kmail/kgaim as default would take some time to get used to.04:32
_kaz(or replace) ;)04:32
hungerHiho! Is there a repository with non-security updates to hoary?04:33
_kazbut this digikam looks slick.04:33
Seveashunger, there is hoary-updates04:33
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Seveasbut that features only updates that fix severe bugs...04:34
r3d0xXuSDo anyone play Steam like Half-Life or Counter-Strike on Ubuntu?04:34
r3d0xXuSSeveas04:34
Seveasi don't :)04:35
r3d0xXuSmy buddy said: i can play steam on cadange or winex404:35
r3d0xXuSwhat this both program04:35
Seveascedega / winex you mean04:35
r3d0xXuSyeah04:35
eruinit's on http://transgaming.com04:35
Seveasif he knows that it's possible ask him for help on installing it04:35
eruinnon-free04:35
eruinand it does work fine04:35
Seveasit's not in the repositories, and i have no experience with it04:35
r3d0xXuSfor ubuntu?04:35
r3d0xXuShmm k04:36
r3d0xXuSill ask my buddy04:36
Efwisr3d0xXuS, I looked into it I know its $5 USD a month to use that system04:36
bigfoot1regarding audio quality, what does lossy and lossless and compatible mean? These are terminology in "sound recorder."04:37
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Seveaslossy = tings like mp3, you loose quality04:37
dabiis there a way to change xscreen lock image?04:37
Seveaslossless = things like flac, no qualityloss but considerably larger files than with mp304:38
Seveasdabi, not an easy way, you will have to change the sourcecode04:38
bigfoot1what about "compatible"?04:38
NicPlossy = jpeg, lossless = png04:38
NicP:D04:38
dabiSeveas, only way?04:38
bigfoot1nicP, about jpeg, is it true that everytime you open a jpg file, its quality diminishes?04:39
hardcampa-lol no04:39
NicPlol04:39
Seveasdabi, yes04:39
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NicPthats the stupidest thing ive ever heard04:39
hardcampa-what a moronic statement04:39
Seveasbigbootay, every time you edit & save it04:39
Seveasbigfoot1*04:39
Seveasnot every time you open it04:39
hardcampa-internet would look pretty ugly in that case04:39
hardcampa-lol04:39
r3d0xXuSomg nonfree -.-04:39
r3d0xXuShate it04:40
r3d0xXuS..04:40
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r3d0xXuSlinux = free but some programms = nonfree04:40
r3d0xXuSi hate that04:40
hardcampa-ehm.. so what04:40
bigfoot1hardcampa-, i thought that jpgs were like oldfashioned audio or video tapes. They risk losing quality during playback. But now my worry's gone, thanks to you all. 8-)04:40
hardcampa-heh04:40
bigfoot1so what does compatible mean, in terms of audio recording ?04:40
Efwisr3d0xXuS, I know, in order to use my modem as a fax I need to either buy a new modem or pay $15 to linuxant to get the driver04:41
hardcampa-bigfoot1 as someone said. Whenever you save a jpg in a quality that's not 100% you loose some quality. Most apps save jpegs at qualitys below 100%04:41
bigfoot1png is just gif's new name right?04:41
Seveasbigfoot1, rofl!04:41
Seveasno, not at all04:41
misakabigfoot - Er, no ...04:41
bob2bigfoot1: no, not at all04:41
Seveaspng is a completely different format04:41
misakabigfoot - What *have* you been reading? ;] 04:41
bob2bigfoot1: it's an entirely new and better format04:41
Seveasquite superior :)04:41
NicPlol04:41
bigfoot1i must have misread that somewhere.04:41
LincxGahh i need some themes lol04:41
r3d0xXuSgmm04:42
r3d0xXuShmmmmmmmmmmmm04:42
bigfoot1or maybe i was in my sleepy state.04:42
r3d0xXuSok well ill do linux as workstation and windows as my game O/S04:42
r3d0xXuS:>04:42
Efwisbigfoot1, png is comparable, but better to JPEG04:42
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SeveasEfwis, not really04:42
hardcampa-Efwis that is totally dependant upon what you want to use the image for04:42
Seveaspng is lossless04:42
Seveasjpeg lossy04:42
misakabigfoot - If you dumb it down a whole lot, you could say png is the new gif, but only as an analogy.04:42
Simiracan I use kde apps in Gnome?04:42
Efwistrue, I forgot about that04:42
SeveasSimira, sure :)04:43
NicPSimira, course you can, you just need the right dependancys04:43
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JohnMurdochSimira, yes, but don't be surprised when the fonts look oversized. :)04:43
dabiwhere should i start to find why i cant see my battery state?04:43
hardcampa-For web images & transfer speeds nothing beats jpg04:43
Seveasdabi, does /proc/acpi/battery exist?04:43
Efwisthats what I do r3d0xXuS04:43
bigfoot1i plan on recording an audio in the highest quality, namely CD lossless. after saving, is it possible to experiment with lesser qualities... to see if not much quality has been lost?04:43
orhsHow do i make my own login manager (like the once you can find at art.gnome.com)04:44
Seveasbigfoot1, yes04:44
orhs?04:44
ag_the_kingis it better than windows?04:44
Seveasorhs, you mean login manager *theme*04:44
bigfoot1but audio recorder can't change qualities, seveas?04:44
r3d0xXuShehe efwis :D04:44
orhsseveas, yes04:44
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r3d0xXuSefwis do u know teamspeak?04:44
Seveasbigfoot1, but you can transcode existing files to different formats04:44
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Seveasorhs, look at art.gnome.org/faq.php04:44
dabiSeveas: yes..04:44
Efwisr3d0xXuS, no I don't04:45
bigfoot1Seveas, transcode means going to terminal?04:45
r3d0xXuSdamn04:45
r3d0xXuSi got .bz2 file04:45
r3d0xXuSi want install that04:45
bigfoot1is there a gui program for transcoding, seveas?04:45
r3d0xXuSwhats the command?04:45
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Seveasdabi, look at all files in /proc/acpi/battery04:45
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r3d0xXuSsudo apt-get install filename.bz2 ?04:45
maxy_noobhi guys!04:45
bigfoot1hi maxy_noob !04:45
Seveasbigfoot1, i guess there is, i just don't know it04:45
dabiSeveas: empty04:45
r3d0xXuSSeveas ?!04:45
Seveasr3d0xXuS, tar jxvf filename.bz204:45
Seveasthat'll extract it04:46
maxy_noobWas wondering if someone can help me change grub default?04:46
r3d0xXuSjxvf ?!04:46
r3d0xXuSk04:46
r3d0xXuSlol04:46
Seveaslook for README and INSTALL files04:46
bigfoot1okay. thank you all for the education !04:46
r3d0xXuSthere isnt readme04:46
Seveasyes, jxvf :)04:46
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Seveasj = bzip2 x = extract v = verbose f = use the file i specify04:46
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r3d0xXuSah k04:46
Seveasmaxy_noob, sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst04:46
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Seveasthere's a line that says default 004:46
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Seveaschange that :)04:47
maxy_noobSeveas, thanks man. I'll check it out04:47
ilba7ri have a problem with xpdf when i open the files i have empty lines that occured after i had update any suggestions04:47
Seveasdabi, that means acpi is not completely functional on your machine04:47
Seveasso you cannot check it04:47
Seveasilba7r, try evince and see if it happens in evince too04:47
dabihmm windows can... :P f* it.. i wont let M$ beat me..04:47
ilba7revince is a program? ok04:48
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maxy_noobSeveas, an empty text editor window popped up04:48
Seveasilba7r, yes04:48
r3d0xXuSoeh?! where its installed?04:48
Seveasmaxy_noob, sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst04:48
Seveasmaxy_noob, make sure you made no spelling mistakes04:48
ag_the_kingdous anyone like me? I feal so.. so ... so ignored04:48
maxy_noobk04:48
Seveasag_the_king, lol :)04:48
Lincxlol04:48
sjs1i dont write good englis... can some tell me a good ftp server for ubuntu?04:48
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Seveasag_the_king, what was your question?04:48
Seveassjs1, vsftpd / pureftpd04:49
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maxy_noobSeveas, ok. Now?04:49
sjs1i have install vsftpd04:49
ilba7rseveas same problem04:49
Seveasmaxy_noob, still open?04:49
ag_the_kingSeveas: I dont know.. Is ubuntu the best operating system?04:49
Seveasag_the_king, it depends on your needs :)04:49
maxy_noobyes, with info this time.04:49
maxy_noobit's the right file04:49
ilba7ri have kubuntu too i can see the files with kghostview but the colours are messed up04:49
Seveasmaxy_noob, ok, look for a line that starts with default04:50
ag_the_kingSeveas: I wana surf porno sites04:50
Seveasand change that line to what you want04:50
sjs1adress to : "how too vsftpd"04:50
maxy_noobdefault grub root device?04:50
Seveasag_the_king, ah, you must use windows then for the .wmv clips :)04:50
Seveasmaxy_noob, no04:50
maxy_noob:(04:50
Seveasmaxy_noob, line 1204:50
Seveasit says default     004:50
Seveaschange that to what ou need04:51
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maxy_nooboh, there it is04:51
ag_the_kingSeveas: Just kidding :) Is it good as a server?04:51
maxy_noobyes04:51
Seveassjs1, aptitude install vsftpd and browse through man vsftpd and /usr/share/doc/vsftpd04:51
Seveasag_the_king, excellent04:51
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maxy_noobSeveas, I guess I change it to 3 if I want the fourth item?04:52
Seveasag_the_king, it's secure, patches come fast after leaks are discovered, easily updatable and all types of servers come in the repositories04:52
Seveasmaxy_noob, indeed04:52
maxy_noobyou rock, dude! thanks@!04:53
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infraliteafter i install ubuntu, the kernel gives an error and dumps registers, and it goes so fast that i can't see what's wrong. it does that in the recovery mode too. what to do?04:53
r3d0xXuSok i switch Winxp :o04:54
orhsanyone got some good tuts for programming in python??04:54
Seveasaptitude install diveintopython :)04:55
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Wingsjust decompile bittorrent and copy it04:55
LaurenceRoweAny emacs users here? I want to make middle click in emacs paste the x selection instead of the emacs only kill buffer. any idea how to get this to work04:55
EfwisI got a kinda technical question, is there a way to free the memory usage up other then a complete restart?04:56
bob2LaurenceRowe: it does paste the X selection here04:57
JohnMurdochEfwis, stop services/apps you're not using04:57
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infraliteno one kow anything about my issue?04:57
infralite*know04:57
Seveasinfralite, not without more info (like the exact error...)04:57
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LaurenceRowebob2: it does for me too at first, but as soon as I kill an area with the scissors button on the button bar, it ignores the x selection04:58
infraliteSeveas: that's the problem actually, it flys past and i can't see it04:58
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thenukeEfwis: Most likely you are just worried because Linux uses your memory effectively ;)04:58
Seveasinfralite, and what happens after that?04:58
moparfan91when you click minamise. how do you reopen the window???04:58
infraliteSeveas: it just stops booting04:58
bob2LaurenceRowe: well, it overwrites the X selection, right?04:58
Efwisthe only reason I'm asking, is in windows I have a program that releases unused memory. usually I end up with about 23% used after I run the program04:58
Seveasinfralite, so then you can write down the error I guess04:58
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infraliteSeveas: i wish i could read an error log or something04:58
wizzardhi ppl, can anybody help me with Radeon in Kubuntu?04:59
wizzardneed to install fglrx driver04:59
Seveaswizzard: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto04:59
wizzardthx04:59
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infraliteSeveas: it dumps the memory so the error leaves the screen, it's way behind04:59
rodolfo*/join04:59
bob2Efwis: the kernel does that in linux04:59
Efwiskk04:59
moparfan91when you click minamize. how do you reopen the window???05:00
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Seveasmoparfan90, click on the programs button in the taskbar...05:00
macarthyIs there a firewall installed by default in ubuntu?05:00
ckbjoin #vfp05:00
ckbmacarthy, "yes"05:00
xozmoparfan91: try right-clivk05:00
ag_the_kingSeveas: Sound good :)05:00
macarthyckb, is there a UI installed by default?05:01
Seveasmacarthy, no05:01
macarthyUI to the firewall05:01
ys76_workmacarthy, No, there is no need for a firewall05:01
Seveasbut try firestarter05:01
rodolfohola05:01
rodolfoespaol05:01
bob2ckb: no, there is no firewall installed by default05:01
ag_the_kingSeveas: Dous it have a preinstaled fridge?05:01
Seveasrodolfo, #ubuntu-es05:01
ckbmacarthy, the default Ubuntu is "no open ports" or what you would get with servers and a firewall blocking the servers05:01
moparfan91i dont see a programs botton????05:01
bob2moparfan91: click o nthe window name i nthe bottom panel05:01
moparfan91it ot there05:01
Seveasag_the_king, no, but check out udu.wiki.ubuntu.com for info about TheFridge :)05:01
macarthyconfused..05:02
macarthyok, if I install vnc for example I don't need to worry about firewalls05:02
bob2macarthy: no, there is no firewall installed by default05:02
Seveasmacarthy, in short: you do not need a firewall on ubuntu if you don't unstall servers05:02
bob2macarthy: but there is no need for one, either05:02
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Seveasand vnc is installed by default :)05:02
Seveasmacarthy, system->preferences->remote desktop05:03
macarthyvino and it doesn't work05:03
Seveas(for vnc)05:03
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macarthySegmantation fault05:03
Seveasworks fine here05:03
ckbSeveas, and if you did install a server, why would you want a firewall?05:03
Kamping_Kaisergday mez05:03
macarthyamd6405:03
Seveasckb, I wouldn't want one05:03
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SeveasI would rather have a real firewall filtering suspicious things05:03
ckbSeveas, what "things" ?05:04
Seveaswhich is what I do on my servers05:04
Seveasthings like a firewall that recognizes dos attacks and other lameness05:04
ckbSeveas, you could block people from accessing the server, but then what is the point of having a server?05:04
Seveas:)05:04
misakackb - You could also control, at a lower level, who had access to ports.05:04
Seveasgenerally you want *some* people to have access to your server05:05
Seveasnot everyone05:05
misakafirewalls aren't just on/off.05:05
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macarthyi've installed vncserver , ran it  " New 'X' desktop is mandelbrot:2"  when I try to connect locally I get vncviewer: ConnectToTcpAddr: connect: Connection refused05:06
infraliteis there any difference between the installation of ubuntu and debian?05:06
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macarthyany ideas?05:06
Seveaswell, how do you connect?05:06
Seveasvncviewer localhost:205:06
Seveas?05:06
macarthyyeap05:06
ckbmacarthy, I think vnc+localhost is disabled by default05:07
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Seveasyeah05:07
macarthyckd, disabled?05:07
infraliteit is05:07
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ag_the_kingSeveas: A pizza slizer??05:08
macarthyhuh?05:08
Lafitte-slizer ?05:08
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bob2bloodlust: please don't to that05:09
ag_the_kingsliser i dont know how to spell it!?05:09
misakabob2 - What did he do?05:09
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bob2misaka: dcc chat05:09
Lafitte-hehe     maybe slicer05:09
misakaAh. *nod*05:09
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Efwisbloodlust please ask before trying to dcc05:10
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ag_the_kingslicer... Thanks.. That sounds better05:10
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Lafitte-ag_the_king, hehe05:10
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JohnMurdochbloodlust, others have asked you and now I'm telling you, do not dcc chat me05:11
ag_the_kinglafitte do you kow what you name sounds like in swedish05:11
adapthaha05:11
Lafitte-ag_the_king,  no    tell me  grin05:11
ag_the_kingla pusse (la pussy)05:12
Seveasmuha05:13
Lafitte-ag_the_king,  nice05:13
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Lafitte-ag_the_king,  and hat dos that tranlte too ?05:13
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ag_the_kingfitta means pussy and fitte sounds lika fitta05:13
Mezrequested by bob2?05:13
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SeveasMez, what..?05:14
Mez* bloodlust (~bloodlust@157.130.111.50) has left #ubuntu (requested by bob2)05:14
Seveashe05:14
Lafitte-ag_the_king,  Lafitte the e is silent05:14
SeveasI have show join/parts off in this channel :)05:14
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Mezah lol05:14
Mezwell I got a DCC chat off of bloodlust aswell05:14
Mezgrr05:14
Seveasheh05:14
infraliteah, me too05:14
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cccso did i05:15
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kidwhat'd he do? :o05:15
Seveasso probably i had one too :)05:15
Lafitte-i didnt get one05:15
Efwisi just aborted it and told him to ask first05:15
njanwhy is bloodlust randomly dcc'ing me?05:15
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Seveasag_the_king, private messages are also not appreciated without asking...05:15
Lafitte-he might have been trying to exploit you somehow05:15
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ag_the_kingNgon svensk?05:15
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cccag_the_king: me05:15
ag_the_king:D I just had to05:15
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emacse1Does Ubuntu come with a nifty/easy way to reconfigure X?05:16
Mezbob2 - can you put a ban on bloodlust - he's being really annoying with DCCs05:16
SeveasMy swedish stops at knckebrd :)05:16
ccclol05:16
knewtwhat do i type in on the install cd boot prompt to use my own choice of kernel05:16
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Seveasemacse1, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:16
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Lafitte-knewt,  you dont05:16
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infraliteor xserver-xfree86 on old comps05:16
emacse1Seveas: then it asks me a ton of questions, most of which, I have no idea as to the answer05:16
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occyheh05:16
Seveasemacse1, use the default05:17
infraliteerr old versions05:17
Seveasthe defaults are good usually05:17
emacse1Seveas: all this to change the monitor?05:17
occydid EVERYONE here get a DCC from bloodlust?05:17
kidrequested? I'm not familiar to this network, is that like some sort of universal replacement?05:17
NobodyrealI never did...05:17
ag_the_kingseveas: You mean Knckebrd05:17
misakabob2 - You can make someone leave a channel, without kicking, on this ircd?05:17
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misakaoccy - Not I.05:17
Seveasemacse1, well, you can edit xorg.conf too :)05:17
occyk05:17
bob2misaka: yes05:17
occymaybe it's someone I knew05:17
occy:)05:17
housetieroccy, yes I did05:17
Seveasag_the_king, probably, as I said my swedish is bad :)05:17
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emacse1Seveas: but I don't have to do either during installation05:17
occyhousetier, ahhh, bot?05:17
Andrilhello all05:17
infraliteoccy: i did05:17
Seveasi just like the accents :)05:17
misakabob2 - What's the point, versus a kick?05:17
bob2misaka: it's silly, but it tends to not trigger people's auto-rejoin scripts05:17
bob2misaka: ^^05:17
misakaAh.05:17
kidOhh ohh, can you try it on me05:17
emacse1Seveas: so can I use the magic part of the installer that figures it all out?05:17
Seveasemacse1, sure05:18
misaka*nod* ... neat trick. Guess it doesn't always work though. :] 05:18
bob2heh05:18
Mezah ... bob2  so whats the command to make them do that - or is that just how the kcik works on here05:18
bob2it would if I could cut and paste faster, but trackpoints suck05:18
emacse1Seveas: how? :)05:18
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Lafitte-misaka,  i like it because it looked like he grabbed his ear lobe and escorted him out like a little kid  hehe05:18
NobodyrealCould anyone tell me how to make changes to the /dev tree and make them stick after a reboot?05:18
misakaLafitte - Heh, true.05:19
kid:(05:19
bob2Mez: /quote remove #channel username05:19
SeveasNobodyreal, edit /etc/udev/rules05:19
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bob2misaka: hah, I'm in screen, but I always forget the cut'n'paste keys05:19
Mezah cool :D05:19
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ag_the_kingda da da! Ich libe dish nicht du libe mich nicht05:19
NobodyrealSeveas: Is that supposed to already be there with a standard installation?  Or do I just put the node info that I want it to restore in here?05:20
misakabob2 - ^A-ESC, vi keys to navigate, space to mark, then space again to copy and exit. ^A-]  to paste. ;] 05:20
macarthyi've installed vncserver , ran it  " New 'X' desktop is mandelbrot:2"   - shouldn't I see this in netstat -n -a -p tcp | grep 590205:20
ag_the_kingcan i translate to swedish05:20
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OddAbe19damnit, who was bloodlust? i got a dccchat fro mhim05:21
SeveasOddAbe19, a bot05:21
Seveasignore it05:21
OddAbe19check check05:21
kidnotified network authorities of him?05:21
OddAbe19i figured05:21
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Seveasheh :)05:21
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ag_the_kingI'm gona kick you seveas!05:23
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Seveaswhere did you find my sandals?!?05:24
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ag_the_kingseveas: In the closet next to the xxx magazines05:25
Seveasthat's not where I keep them :)05:25
Seveasbut let's stay on topic here :)05:25
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Andrilanyone able to run FTP,DNS,EMAIL or HTTP server on Ubuntu?05:26
macarthyOn vncserver - looks like it is Segfaulting05:26
SeveasAndril, everybody can :)05:26
Mezthere's a topic in here seveas?05:26
adaptmiscz you around?05:26
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SeveasMez, yes, ubuntu support..05:26
AndrilSeveas, cool - well I am still trying to get rid of my Win PC's and port it all to Ubuntu05:27
adaptAndril: yes05:27
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Mezoh, ok, I thought it was a community + support chat room05:27
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SeveasMez, well, on times like this (not too busy) it's a random chatroom, but the main purpose is community support though05:28
Andriladapt, can you point me in the right direction?05:28
adaptfor ftp use /etc/inetd.conf05:28
SeveasAndril, aptitude install apache2 bind9 vsftpd05:28
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macarthyOk so that is vino and vncserver  that both segfault on ubuntu amd6405:29
ag_the_kingseveas: Look behind you :D05:29
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zerokoolHi all05:29
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zerokoolIm looking for some help please05:29
ag_the_kingseveas: No the other behind you05:29
Seveaszerokool, well, state your problem then :)05:30
adaptzerokool: change your name and just ask05:30
zerokoolI have just apt-get the firefox plugin05:30
AndrilSeveas, are these commands or apps05:30
macarthyanyone running amd64 ubuntu?05:30
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Seveasmacarthy, lots of people05:30
zerokoolbut now when a page has flash content it closes05:30
macarthyhere?05:30
noobPlz, can someone help to instal Skype on Ubuntu ?05:30
zerokoolmcarthy I am05:30
hippyswhy do i get this message whem my linux start. Couldnt set the clock with the hardware or something like that05:30
adaptAndril: thats a command to install apps - apache2 is the web server, bind is dns, and vsftpd is ftp05:31
Seveaszerokool, amd64 and flash is a no-go05:31
zyiromacarthy im running it on a box at work05:31
ag_the_kingseveas: Do you see me?05:31
TokenBadanyone help me with vsftpd?05:31
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zerokoolahhhh05:31
macarthyzerocool, zyiro, can you run vncsever ?05:31
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zerokoolis there not a workaround then05:31
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Andriladapt, do you have one for email? how about Hula?05:31
Seveaszerokool, not really, macromedia refuses to make a 64bit binary...05:31
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zerokooldunno never tried05:31
adaptAndril: postfix is what i use05:31
zerokoolok then thanks for the info05:31
zyiroyeah ive usec vnc on it but05:31
SeveasAndril, for e-mail postfix is the default05:31
zyirobit*05:32
Andrilpostfix05:32
adaptHula is just a web based front end isnt it05:32
macarthyzyiro, but?05:32
ag_the_kingSeveas: See! Now your ignoring me and my stupidness again05:32
Andriladapt, thanks is it easy?05:32
ag_the_kingstupidity05:32
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hippyswhat package i need in order to get the tgetent05:32
Seveasand now everyone will ignore you...05:32
zyiromacarthy i meat to type bit instead of but05:32
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zyiroive used vnc a bit05:32
AndrilSeveas, you are always on top of things thanks -05:32
adaptAndril: have you ever set up any server (services) before?05:32
Seveasvnc is sluggissh05:32
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Seveasfreenx beats vnc's ass anytime05:32
macarthyhave you got vino to work?05:33
macarthyzyiro, have you got vino to work?05:33
Andriladapt, in Win yes - in Lin No05:33
Seveasreally, you should look at freenx05:33
noobWhat pakage should i get ? .tar.bz2   or .deb ???05:33
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Seveas.deb05:33
adaptAndril: you have some work to do then :)05:33
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macarthySeveas, need to use vnc05:33
Seveasnoob, what are you trying to install?05:33
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Seveasmacarthy, ah ok. Sorry that I can't be more helpful than a 'here it works' message then...05:33
noobSkype for Linux05:34
hippysi cant install the screen package it says i need he tgetent what do i do?05:34
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Seveasnoob, yeah use the deb :)05:34
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noobok, i got it05:34
Seveashippys, sptitude install screen05:34
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Andriladapt, running the command now05:34
TokenBadI have vsftpd install and can connect..but the user I added says logon failed..but the user can get in through ssh..05:35
TokenBadany idea05:35
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adaptTokenBad: you go through the vsftp config file?05:35
SeveasTokenBad, look at the vsftpd config...05:35
hippysSeveas whats that?05:35
noobI created a folder named sk2 at my personal folder and extracted the .deb files05:35
TokenBadI did..but didn't see anything about users05:35
Seveashippys, screen is installed by default...05:35
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Seveasnoob, you shouldn't extract deb files05:36
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MezARGH!05:36
Seveasnoob, you should run dpkg -i filename_of_the_debfile.deb05:36
MezGODAMNIT#05:36
nooboh... so whats the next step05:36
Mezmy X session keeps restarting for NO APPARENT REASON05:36
Mezgod this is annoying05:36
noobok... hang a second ... im doing it05:36
Seveashippys, what are you trying to accomplish?05:36
hippysSeveas is it default in ubuntu-amd64 too?05:36
Seveashippys, afaik yes05:36
pestilenceanybody here use fluxbox from universe?  i have a older box that i would like to run fluxbox on, and the version in universe is *extremely* slow...slower than KDE (and that's saying a lot...this is a 300 mhz celeron machine)05:37
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pestilencei have removed .fluxbox, anything else i could try?05:37
Mezpestilence, works fine for me me :D05:37
Mezvery fast too05:37
pestilencei don't understand why it's so slow.05:37
CruJonesHello guys05:37
hippysSeveas: how can i install php05:37
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pestilenceMez: congratulations :)05:37
Seveashippys, sudo aptitude install libapache2-mod-php405:37
xozpestilence: what about blackbox or openbox? openbox rocks AFAIK05:37
JohnMurdochpestilence, have you tried the fluxbox in backports?05:38
pestilencexoz: mainly because i've used fluxbox extensively and so i'm quite used to it05:38
hippysSeveas: and how can i can get the libmad05:38
Andriladapt, how can I configure bind?05:38
adapti dont use bind05:38
pestilenceJohnMurdoch: no, i try to avoid using backports.  is it a significantly improved version?05:38
Seveashippys, you mean for mo3 playback?05:38
Seveasmp3*05:38
hippysyes05:38
adaptyou probably dont need a dns server05:38
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JohnMurdochpestilence, I believe it may resolve the slowness factor. This was discussed on the ubuntuforums AFAIK05:39
hippysi am trying to install mpg32105:39
Seveashippys, sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.8-mad05:39
xozpestilence: they bahave and look similar. openbox gives you more options.05:39
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kafeinehippys, apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad ?05:39
adaptwhat are you trying to do? server in the bedroom style?05:39
Seveashippys, sudo aptitude install mpg32105:39
Seveas:)05:39
pestilencexoz: i'll give it a shot.05:39
TokenBadSeveas, I did look at the vsftp config file..but didn't see anything about adding users05:39
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pestilenceJohnMurdoch: if openbox isn't what i'm looking for i'll try backports05:39
pestilencethanks.05:39
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JohnMurdochpestilence, why do you avoid using backports?05:39
hippyswhats sudo for?05:39
SeveasTokenBad, afaik you need to enable local users to login05:39
kafeinehippys, super user05:39
Seveashippys, it makes you run the command as root05:39
hippysok05:39
Andriladapt, I own my domain via Register.com and are currently serving it using DNS2Go - can Bind take over?05:39
RaskallI got a new job today. Going to be the sysadmin of a linux company developing linux cluster solutions.05:39
SeveasAndril, yes05:40
pestilenceRaskall: i hope you're not coming here for help :)05:40
SeveasRaskall, nice job05:40
kafeinelol05:40
RaskallI am rid of my firstline dsl support job.05:40
AndrilSeveas, hook me up with the knowledge :)05:40
TokenBadSeveas, it is set to allow it05:40
RaskallI am quite happy now. :)05:40
hippyshow can i set up the network05:40
SeveasAndril, aptitude install bind905:40
Seveasand look at the docs05:40
TokenBadI set that before..figured needed it05:40
Raskallpestilence: nope.. :) Ubuntu is my home choice. My future employer use redhat and suse.05:40
Seveasit's been a while since i fucked up^W^Wplayed with bind05:40
xozRaskall: what's the preferred distro in your company?05:41
hippyshow can i set up the eth0 interface05:41
AndrilSeveas, done05:41
JuNkPhreak|UnIxUnix :}05:41
Mezanyone know where X crash logs are kept?05:41
Seveashippys, wired or wireless?05:41
hippyswired05:41
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SeveasMez, /var/log/xorg.0.log05:41
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Raskallxoz: for desktop use I guess I can choose what I want. The servers and the target platform for their product is redhat and suse.05:41
noobSeveas: Ok...after the command the terminal said Selecting package... Reading database... Extracting Skype... Installing Skype.... and finally prompt the command line again05:42
Seveashippys, use the network configuring tool05:42
Raskallwell.. got to go.. c ya05:42
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pestilencexoz: openbox seems to suffer the same slowness.  strange.05:42
AndrilSeveas, I see you are busy - I'll get back with you later05:42
Seveashippys menu system->administration->networking05:42
hippysSeveas whats that tool?05:42
Andriladapt, thanks again -I'll be back on later05:42
ivoksany luck with ISDN anyone?05:42
Seveasnoob, that means it's now installed :D05:42
xozpestilence: hmm... something is not right... what about xfce? or blackbox or wmaker?05:42
pestilencexoz: well, i'm starting to wonder what the problem is.05:43
JohnMurdochpestilence, the issue is documented in discussions on the forums05:43
pestilenceJohnMurdoch: ok, i'll check it out.05:43
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xozpestilence: maybe, your xserver acceleration support has something to do with it.05:43
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noobok. I see at "internet" programs group a icon named Skype but when i clik on it nothing happens... should i restar ubuntu 4?05:43
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laxisehi ....anyone .... how to install mc on ubuntu ???05:43
Seveasnoob, in the terminal type 'skype' and see what happens05:44
noobok05:44
Seveaslaxise, sudo aptitude install mc05:44
pestilencexoz: seems possible05:44
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xoznoob: linux is not windows where you have to restart to get things done... except kernel upgrade.05:44
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laxiseSeveas: thx05:44
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Seveaslaxise, you must have universe enabled05:44
Seveaslaxise: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto05:44
nooboh-oh... i probably did something wrong... see the message after type skype:         skype: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared o bject file: No such file or directory05:45
xozpestilence: slow in a sense that moving/resizing windows take time? what's your video card?05:45
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bob2noob: install the libqt3-mt package05:45
Seveasnoob, ah ok, skype requires kde05:45
pestilencexoz: no, it takes a very long time to load up.05:45
laxiseSeveas: could you explain command sudo aptitude install05:45
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pestilencexoz: longer than kde, which is depressing.05:46
laxiseSeveas: a bit more ...05:46
Seveaslaxise, sudo = run the following as root, aptitude = the package manager, install = let the package manager install the following05:46
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Myrttihrm05:47
laxiseSeveas: where is aptitude located basicaly on Ubuntu???05:47
nooboh,no... So Should I change my graph interface to kde ? I use gnome....05:47
xozpestilence: try strace startfluxbox05:47
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Seveasnoob, sudo aptitude install libqt3c102-mt05:47
pestilencexoz: but the xserver is doing a lot of work when it loads...so perhaps there is something wrong in the configuration of it.05:47
noobok05:47
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Seveaslaxise: type this: slocate aptitude05:47
likkashothello people05:47
xozyep. how big is your ram?05:48
bob2noob: no, there's no need to use kde05:48
pestilencexoz: ok, i'll do that in a minute.  i want to see what has been said in the forums05:48
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macarthylooks like there is a known bug with amd64  vnc, fixed upstream05:48
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likkashotis this a help place cause I need some :)05:48
caryhah...i do too05:48
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caryis anyone other than us even around?05:49
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Seveaslikkashot, this is indeed a help channel05:50
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likkashotI just dont remember how to ad an extra NIC card05:50
mic_I just sit and watch and learn05:50
Seveasjust state your problem and hope for help :)05:50
likkashotit integrated but not discovered05:50
mic_don't feel I have much to contribute yet05:50
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noobterminal returned:  could not find any package that match libqt....05:50
Seveaslikkashot, plug it in your pc, start your pc and use the network config tool05:50
TokenBadhow can I find out if have a program using port 21?05:50
likkashotI did not install the nvidia drivers yet05:50
Seveaslikkashot, nforce motherboard?05:51
ggellerTokenBad: netstat -ant05:51
likkashotyes05:51
keikozTokenBad port 21 is just used by ftp server05:51
carywell a question to ANYONE...i cant figure out how to install basically anything05:51
likkashotnforce 4 ultra05:51
SeveasTokenBad, netstat -l -t05:51
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Seveaslikkashot, type this: echo forcedeth | sudo tee -a /etc/modules && sudo modprobe forcedeth05:51
likkashotdo I have to create eth1 by my self05:51
likkashotok05:51
caryim Very new to linux and cant seem to make anything install. i get the hqx (i think) and either nothing is in it or its all the files i need to install but i dont either have an installer front end and i cant get terminal to run the file i DO have05:52
TokenBadok now how can I kill it?05:52
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Seveascarlos, you install stuff via the package manager (meny system->administration)05:53
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Seveascary, you install stuff via the package manager (meny system->administration)05:53
caryahha05:53
arkainiumI think one of my hard drives is failing.  Is there some tool I can use to check it?05:53
Seveascary, if you look for something and can't find it there,05:53
Seveascary: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto05:53
mjrarkainium, try smartmontools05:53
Seveasread that too05:53
carywill do05:53
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zytharkainium, check the manufacturer's website, most have diagnostic tools05:53
Seveascary, and if you are looking for specific things: the package manager has a search function, and you can also ask here05:54
arkainiumzyth, the problem is I don't have a floppy drive on that computer.05:54
likkashotwhat afeter the command Seveas05:54
caryseveas, another question is i had i was wanting to install MOL and it gave me a "deb http://www.blahblahbl" line. what do i do with that? i coudlnt for my life figure that mess out05:54
nJesshey, can ubuntu play a DVD on a clean install?05:54
zytharkainium, can you make a bootable CD or USB?05:55
nJessif not, what do i need to get?05:55
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zythnJess, depends, commercial or not?05:55
bob2nJess: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:55
deffyOk, so why is it hat I've followed every single wiki related to wifi and they still don't work05:55
Seveaslikkashot, you should than have an eth105:55
arkainiumzyth, hmm.. I'll give it a shot.05:55
likkashotok05:55
Seveasotherwise, reboot and it should be there05:55
Lafitte-has anyone got Ricoh cardbus to work in ubuntu yet ?05:55
bob2cary: MOL and friends are in ubuntu already...05:55
cpayanis there a particular reason the installer stopped asking me for a root password?05:55
bob2Lafitte-: is that supported by ubuntu at all?05:55
bob2cpayan: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo05:55
Seveasdeffy, that's because wifi is underdeveloped in linux05:56
bob2cpayan: the installer did explain it to you05:56
Seveascpayan: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo05:56
bob2Seveas: well, that's not realy true05:56
noobSeveas, I know you are busy but dont forget about me..:-)05:56
Lafitte-bob2,  i havent got it to work  in anythng linux   but always looking05:56
bob2it's more because some cards have no documentation05:56
sam2nJess, http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#dvdplayback05:56
Lafitte-bob2,  it shows up in lspci05:56
Seveasbob2, well wpa/802.1x is underdeveloped...05:56
caryseveas, also, i plan to dual boot os x and ubuntu, and i saw some debian suggested partitioning list. like a partition for this, that, os x, etc. but i cant find it again. where is there a good place for me to figure out how to partition my 80g HD?05:56
deffyI mean I've tried to get my USB wifi thingy to work 3 different ways and all of them do not work or cannot be done05:56
bob2WPA is kinda niche, tho05:56
Seveasnoob, have you installed libgt3c102-mt?05:56
cary(or..i guess that question is to anyone)05:56
bob2deffy: and what sort of "usb wifi thingy" is it?05:57
Seveasbob2, 802.1x not05:57
Seveasand wpa is gaining popularity fast05:57
carybob2, is it under applicatinos or something?05:57
zythUSB WiFi is generally bad :/05:57
TokenBadhmm05:57
bob2Seveas: x = b/g?05:57
arkainiumzyth, they actually even offer a cd image, so I guess I'll give it a go.05:57
deffyBelkin USB Wifi Adaptor model F5D705005:57
zytharkainium, there you go :)05:57
Seveas802.1x = authentication05:57
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noobi dont know... how can i verify it ?05:57
bob2ah05:57
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bob2I've not heard of it...05:57
TokenBadSeveas, I did the netstat..says glftpd is using it..but when try to do ps -ef | grep gl05:57
bob2deffy: is it too late to return it?05:57
TokenBadits not listed05:57
Seveasnoob, i have to go for a few minute, can you please send me a private message so i will not forget you :)05:58
deffyndiswrapper doesn't work, it freezes when I modprobed05:58
cpayanok, should have read a little closer then... the nba finals were on, come on... i have the strangest feeling that i was able to log in as root on saturday though05:58
spiralhi05:58
Lafitte-f5d6050 didnt work05:58
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bob2deffy: is it too late to return it and get a working one?05:58
noobok seveas... thnx05:58
deffybob2: yeah unfortunatly, it works great on my windows partition05:58
SeveasTokenBad, that's because it's spawned via inetd i guess05:58
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bob2ouch05:58
bob2oh well05:58
likkashotI must be doing something wrong05:58
TokenBadok...so how do I kill it?05:58
Lafitte-bob2,  what usb wireless does work ?05:59
Oberlafitte smc2662w05:59
dooglus_I'm trying to install ubuntu onto an old PC, but I can't get it to boot from the installation CD.  Is there any way I can install without booting from the CD?  I have WinXP and Fedora currently bootable on the PC05:59
bob2Lafitte-: I've personally used a netgear ma-111 with few problems05:59
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bob2it's still pretty shit, tho05:59
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Lafitte-bob2,  ndiswrapper ??05:59
deffyI tried also loading up the rt2500 chipset drivers to get it to work... got all the way to raconfig250005:59
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bob2Lafitte-: nope05:59
Lafitte-bob2,  oh kewl05:59
bob2buying a usb device that requires ndiswrapper seems kidna silly05:59
xozdooglus_: maybe you should boot with 2.6 kernel. are you using SATA?06:00
mic_I tried the rt2500 drivers but the settings were always lost on reboot06:00
zythdeffy, apparently Linuxant's thingy works with it, from a google.06:00
deffyDriverloader?06:00
deffyNope06:00
deffymy system locks up while configuring it06:00
termitehey06:00
bob2haha06:00
dooglus_xoz: I don't know.  What's SATA?06:00
bob2yay binary drivers06:00
deffyand the whole time the system does not see the Belkin as a Network Device06:00
zythis this a desktop or notebook?06:00
stimpieis there a tool to add nfs shares in ubuntu? for the client I mean.06:00
caryanyone, is where is MOL on a general installation of ubuntu?06:00
deffybut as a USB device that it has no idea what to do with it06:00
deffydesktop06:01
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bob2stimpie: just mount them as normal in /etc/fstab06:01
bob2cary: no where, you need to install it06:01
stimpiebob2, yeah I know but I would like a graphical tool06:01
zythyou may wind up having to get a supported PCI NIC if that's an option, or some ethernet cable.06:01
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deffywell I'm using eth0 right now06:02
zyth*nods*06:02
carybob2, that is what i was trying to do but i couldnt ever get a hold of the MOL install stuff. but once i did (no idea how to, the site i found is confusing) i'd use pacakge manager? and that is...where?06:02
likkashotSeveas I dont even have a modules folder06:02
bob2cary: eh?06:02
deffybut my room is upstairs and the router is down here, and I want the set up upstairs because all my gear is up there06:02
zythdeffy, yeah, I can't find anything except an instance where one guy got that working with driverloader06:02
bob2cary: ignore any websites you've read06:02
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zythdeffy, and you're saying it crashes on you so...06:02
deffyzyth: it crashes after tellimg me no devices can be found06:03
carybob2, okay. i'll just tell you what im trying to do.06:03
deffyeven though the adaptor is fully identified by the system06:03
zythdeffy, have you checked Device Manager and seen if the device is listed?06:03
bob2cary: and install the mol-modules-source package using synaptic06:03
zythOh ok sounds like it06:03
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deffyI mean device manager knows who makes it and what it is06:03
bob2cary: it's not going to be simple, tho; if you're not comfortable with linux, I'd just do the reboot thing for now06:03
zythyeah06:03
deffyjust doesn't seem to put 2 and 2 together06:03
bob2adding a device manager on top of hal was a mistake06:04
zythand you made sure you had the right .inf and .sys files?06:04
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deffyyes, using the files from the cd06:04
deffyis that part of my problem trying to use files directly off the cd?06:04
mic_gotta run06:04
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carybob2, this is how new i am. i vaguely know what synaptic is, but id ont know where to get it or if i have it, or how to use it. and what do you mean "reboot thing"06:05
zythShouldn't be, I've used ndiswrapper in the past, and I just used my default files, but are you sure the files you used were for your specific nic?  Sometimes those CDs have multiple drivers on them?06:05
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bob2cary: I mean "Setting up MOL is going to be very very difficult for you, especially if you don't have an experienced friend to help you.  If I were you, I'd just deal with rebooting into macos every now and then."06:05
kudzubanecary: it should be installed if you did a default install06:05
deffyno just has the one driver06:05
kudzubanecary: explore your menus in gnome :)06:06
bob2cary: synaptic = "system -> administration -> package manager" menu on the top of the screen, btw06:06
carybob2, okay. i need to get a linux friend. i am sort of trying this for fun. i miss LiteStep from way back when i had a PC and i have wanted to know linxu for a while now. note to self: get linxu friend06:06
deffyok zyth, found this on the ndiswrapper system06:06
deffyer wiki06:06
deffyOther: SuSE 9.1, kernel-2.6.x-smp: doesn't work, 'modprobe ndiswrapper' freezes the system.06:06
bob2cary: hah06:06
deffywas under my usb adaptor06:07
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zythahh06:07
bob2smp and ndiswrapper is asking for trouble06:07
carybob2: so a package is the hqx thing, right?06:07
bob2cary: I don't know what "hqx" is06:07
zythdeffy, try switching to non-smp06:07
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pestilencexoz: so what should i do with the trace produced by "strace startfluxbox"?06:07
kudzubanecary: hqx is a mac os thing06:07
kudzubanecary: under ubuntu, packages has .deb extension06:08
carybob2: okay say i have some bit of software i want. how do i get it? do i get the source? do i try to find a Deb installer? and then, assuming i find what i need...does the package manager find know what to do with wha ti downloaded?06:08
zythdeffy, if you've got a P4, just apt-get install linux-68606:08
bob2cary: you use the package manager exclusively, and it download and installs things for you06:08
deffyI've got an AMD06:09
bob2cary: no need for source, no need to download things manually06:09
Quest-MasterHindi and Urdu Ubuntu users-- #ubuntu-hi and #ubuntu-ur06:09
zythdeffy, linux-K7 I think then06:09
carykudzunbane: thanks. what does it mean when i see a line like "deb http://blah.blah.blah" talking about some sort of installation?06:09
deffyok06:09
zythdeffy, synaptic can help :)06:09
zythbrb06:09
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carybob2: nice! thanks! i feel like a 13 year old06:09
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deffyI'm a linux newbie, I'm using it for my day to day stuff06:09
kudzubanecary: it means a package is being installed and the http:// lists where the package is located06:10
syndzy06:10
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bob2cary: heh, it is all new and weird when you start06:10
carykudzubane: but do i put that line in terminal or the package thing? i just dont understand context for the syntax06:10
moparfan90_when i go in to a program the icon thing doesnt show up on the bottom where it should. how do i make it do that?????06:10
deffyok getting K706:10
carybob2: any suggestions of how to partition my HD for dual booting?06:10
kudzubanecary: use the nice package management gui provided (synaptic, as previously mentioned)06:11
bob2moparfan90_: is the program actually running?06:11
kudzubanecary: if want to do the command line thing, you will need to familiarize yourself with apt (see debian site for more details)06:11
moparfan90_yeah06:11
deffyI have to keep Windows so I can operate my audio gear, but like using Linux for day to day stuff, surfing the web, email, so I don't bog down Pro Tools06:12
bob2cary: give ubuntu at least a few GB06:12
carykudzubane: same question i asked bob2: any suggestions of how to partition my HD for dual booting?06:12
moparfan90_like the chat06:12
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carybob2: well i saw some debian part. chart that was saying like 4 partitions06:12
moparfan90_any ideas06:12
carybob2: a few gigs for ubuntu, and a lot for os x06:12
bob2cary: mac os X does weird thigns with hard disks06:12
bob2cary: it wants like 4 partitions06:13
bob2cary: well, it depends what you want to do06:13
carybob2: well it was a website (i know im supposed to ignore them!)06:13
bob2hah06:13
bob2I just meant on the topic of MOL, since they're going to make it even more complicated06:13
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moparfan90_does any one know how to make the icon show up on the bottom of the screen when your running the program and when it min.06:13
deffyzyth: so after K7 is done, what am I going to want to do?06:14
carybob2: it was saying something for like..each OS's native area, and then one for a FAT32 area for ease of file sharing b/w OSs and then like  one other really small allocation for some other debian somethign or other06:14
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bob2moparfan90_: if it's running, it'll be there06:14
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moparfan90_yeah but its not???? why06:14
bob2I have no idea06:15
nernhi06:15
bob2why don't you tell us what you're trying to run?06:15
moparfan90_o06:15
moparfan90_any thing06:15
moparfan90_the chat any program06:15
moparfan90_i just what it to be there so i can minamize it and come baxk to it and it will be there06:16
bob2"want"?06:16
moparfan90_yeah06:16
bob2so, perhaps what you mean is "When I start programs, they show up in the taskbar at the bottom, but when I minimise the program, it disappears."?06:16
moparfan90_no there never there at all. sorry for being unclear06:17
zythdeffy, reboot, then remove all the ndiswrapper stuff, and go through the set up of it again according to the Wiki06:17
bob2so, perhaps there is no taskbar at all06:18
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deffyok, already removed the driver using ndiswrapper -e, that what you mean or something more complicated06:18
moparfan90_is the taskbar the one on the bottom?06:18
moparfan90_i just installed it06:18
rndrdbrianquick question. Booted into ubuntu today. I now have a missing right mouse button menu.06:18
bob2in what way is it missing?06:18
bob2moparfan90_: right click on the bottom bar.  add to panel.  window list. ok.06:19
deffyok zyth, rebooting, wish me luck on attempt #4406:19
rndrdbrianin that I right click on the desktop, no menu!06:19
caryis it possible to for ubuntu to use two monitors? my CRT shows up as white when i boot normally06:19
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moparfan90_oo.ok thanks:D06:19
bob2rndrdbrian: so, does it work elsewhere?06:19
mjrcary, it is, but I think you have to manually configure it06:20
bob2cary: depending on hardware, yes, but you have to configure it manually06:20
carycool.06:20
SS2hi06:20
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SS2i have a problem with sound-juicer06:20
rndrdbrianbob2, the mouse right button *does* work, I can select with the rmb in xterm, and I get the "add to panel" menu if I right click on the top menubar06:20
SS2cant ripp to mp306:20
moparfan90_ok. bye06:20
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Otrayohi, can anyone tell me how to setup ubuntu so that i can ping the localhost/127.0.0.106:21
zythSS2, install gstreamer0.8-mad06:21
Seveasbob2, do you happen to know any good tutorials or describing websites on how to write a good xoerg.con/XF86config-4 ..?06:21
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bob2rndrdbrian: run "nautilus" from a terminal, then see if it works again06:21
SS2zyth: i did that06:21
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bob2Otrayo: it works out of the box06:21
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SS2gstreamer0.8-lame is also installed06:21
bob2Otrayo: did you enable a "firewall" or such?06:21
zythhm.06:21
carygeneral question: so in short to dual boot i need to reinstall the OS, reboot to CD, partition hd, then install ubuntu? do i need more than 2 partitions, possibly 3 if i want a FAT32 file sharing area?06:21
razorbackwhats a good program for burning audio cds and such?06:21
thenukerazorback: k3b06:21
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razorbackthanks06:21
Otrayobob2: doesnt seem so...i can even ping the localhost, and i just did the default install06:21
SS2zyth: i also did the wiki06:21
Otrayo*cant even ping it06:21
rndrdbrianbob2, running nautilus brings it back.....06:22
zythSS2, try grip then06:22
plus|SubterfugeNeed help configuring USB Dongle relating to a wireless network. Drivers and such06:22
bob2rndrdbrian: system -> preferences -> session, make sure nautilus is listed06:22
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zythSS2, should be in synaptic06:22
rndrdbrianlisted in startup?06:22
bob2Otrayo: paste the output of "ifconfig lo" to #flood06:22
zythdeffy, any luck?06:22
bob2rndrdbrian: yeah06:22
bob2plus|Subterfuge: you need to be a lot more specific.  tell us what model and chispet it is06:22
rndrdbrianbob2, strangely enough, it isn't06:23
plus|Subterfugeok bob206:23
deffygoing to reconfig Ndiswrapper now06:23
zythdeffy, and have you checked https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto?highlight=%28ndiswrapper%29 ?06:23
alemaodoes anyone knows if ubuntu the firewall is running after installation ?06:23
Otrayo2 secs bob206:23
bob2Seveas: you never need to write them from scratch anymore, so driver manpages (e.g. 'man ati') are usually all you need06:23
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bob2alemao: no, there's no firewall and no need for one06:23
Seveasbob2, I know, I'm just curious06:23
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deffyzyth, yeah and I get loads of errors by following those instructions06:24
dieterhi!06:24
plus|SubterfugeThe USB Dongle is a TopCom Skyr@cer wireless USB stick 54 Mbps06:24
dieteranyone done an APT-GET to install gdesklets ?06:24
zythdeffy, is your system AMD64 or 32 bit?06:24
plus|SubterfugeWhat I need is drivers that work with ubuntu, and how to set up the wireless network06:24
dieterwhich source do you guys use ?06:24
alemaobob2, no vulnerable porta ?06:24
Seveasdieter, yes06:24
rndrdbrianbob2, thanks for the help. that seems to have been the problem.06:24
bob2alemao: indeed06:24
plus|SubterfugeI have found this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/zd1211/06:24
bob2rndrdbrian: np, it is weird it wasn't there by default06:24
Otrayobob2: do you mind waiting while i reconnect from my ubuntu notebook?06:24
bob2Otrayo: no06:24
bob2plus|Subterfuge: is it too late to return it?06:24
plus|Subterfugewill they work for the USB stick?06:24
plus|Subterfugehehe06:25
carybob2 and seveas and everyone who helped, thanks. i'll be back.06:25
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plus|SubterfugeI think so :D06:25
rndrdbrianbob2, *shrug*, such are computers, they do strange things sometime06:25
bob2heh06:25
Otrayobob2: 2 secs06:25
deffyzyth: it's whatever the AMD 2400+ is,06:25
dieterSeveas, which source did you use (I'm from Belgium btw)06:25
zythdeffy, 32bit, k.06:25
rndrdbrianwell, must go.06:25
rndrdbrianthanks for the help06:25
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Seveasdieter, archive.ubuntu.com06:25
dieterthat's weird ...06:25
dieterpackage name is gdesklets ? :)06:26
bob2yes06:26
Otrayoexit06:26
zythdeffy, yeah, beyond https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/hardware/ndiswrapper I can't tell you much else to try.06:26
alemaoother question, is possible to install wine (wineX, or cedega) to run some programs for windows in Ubuntu ?06:26
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zythalemao, I have Morrowind and World of Warcraft running.06:26
bob2alemao: sure, but cedega costs money06:26
deffyzyth, I could shoot the wifi adaptor and bury it in the back yard06:26
zythdeffy, do that, and buy a PCI NIC that is Linux-friendly :)06:27
dieterI have : deb http://be.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted06:27
dieterdeb-src http://be.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted06:27
alemaozyth, using wine ?06:27
bob2plus|Subterfuge: so...which bit are you stuck on?06:27
zythalemao, cedega06:27
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zythbut like bob2 says, it's commercial06:27
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bob2dieter: note that be.archive.ubuntu.com points at archive.ubuntu.com at the moment, anyway06:27
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deffyzyth, still locks up at modprobe06:28
syndsudo tar xvf <tar file>  to extract .tar file, right?06:28
Seveasdieter, you might need universe06:28
Seveasdieter: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto06:28
plus|SubterfugeWell, just about everything. I found those drivers a couple of mins ago and was just wondering if they seem to be the right ones for my stick06:28
Seveasdieter: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3806:28
bob2synd: yes06:28
dieterow ...06:28
plus|Subterfugebut it is probably not.06:28
syndi can never remember06:28
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alemaowhat is best video board (pci, because my motherboard no AGP) to buy ?06:28
dieterSeveas, I'll have a look at tge site ... thanks!06:28
zythdeffy, I'm thinking it's the USB-ness of the thing.  That, or some weird hardware conflict.  You're probably best off to get an internal, supported PCI nic. :(06:28
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Otrayobob2: i was messing with settings before joining here...seems a restart did the trick, but tnx for being will to help anyway06:28
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alemaoother question .. exist software to p2p in ubuntu ? which06:29
deffyzyth, great, spending more money on this thing06:29
zythdeffy, can you return your USB nic?06:29
deffyno, it's too late06:30
dieterby the way ... ubuntu in VMware ROCKS :d06:30
bob2Otrayo: something somehow stopped the loopback interface from coming up, perhaps someone ctrl-c'd the network scripts at boot or something06:30
zythdeffy, : :(06:30
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Otrayommmm....possibly06:30
alan_hello06:30
Otrayobob2: do you know anything about MySQL?06:30
zythalemao, probably, but I don't use p2p so I don't know what packages.06:30
dieteryes, installing desklets06:30
dieterSeveas, thanks it is installing!06:30
alemaozyth, did you make install wine via apt-get ?06:31
bob2Otrayo: enough to not use it ;p06:31
alan_i know about mysql in win not linux but both are the same06:31
deffyzyth: well hopefully I won't be the only person getting frustrated with usb wifi adaptors and figure something out06:31
zythalemao, no, I used cedega and installed their .deb packages06:31
Otrayobob2: hehe...ok, i'll ask in open chan06:31
Otrayoalan_: how do you specify which host to connect to a mysql database on?06:31
zythdeffy, yeah, hopefully.  USB ethernet is generally evil imo anyways.06:31
Otrayoalan_: from the command line06:31
alemaozyth, oh ok .. thanks information06:31
syndafter i tar xvzf <.tar> i get this error: gzip: stdin: not in gzip format || tar: Child returned status 106:31
Otrayommm...06:32
Seveassynd, drop the z06:32
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alemaoanyone from Brazil here ?06:32
Seveastar xvf bla.tar06:32
bob2synd: z = gunzip the file first06:32
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zythxvjpf ;)06:32
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TokenBadguess going to install ubuntu again06:33
TokenBadsince can't figure this out06:33
Otrayohow do i connect to a mysql on another host, i.e. 192.168.1.106:33
syndsudo tar xvf ~/Desktop/gDesklets-0.35rc1.tar.bz2 || tar: This does not look like a tar archive || tar: Skipping to next header || tar: Archive contains obsolescent base-64 headers || tar: Read 108 bytes from /home/phillip/Desktop/gDesklets-0.35rc1.tar.bz206:33
deffyzyth: yeah but if things keep going they way they do in the windows world, it'll be the wave of the future06:33
syndgot that :/06:33
zythsynd, tar -xvjpf06:33
syndack ok06:33
zythit's bzip2'd06:33
bob2Otrayo: with the mysql client tool? mysql -h 1.2.3.406:34
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JohnMurdochsynd, someone posted a .deb of the latest version of gDesklets to the ubuntu forums, check the backports section of threads06:34
JSHis it a bad idea to mount a NTFS partition as RW?06:34
pfphmm, is there something wrong w/ the gdesklets in universe06:34
syndJohnMurdoch: ah really? thanks06:34
SeveasJSH, it's impossible :)06:34
Seveasunless you use captive ntfs06:34
JSHhave managed so far....06:34
JohnMurdochsynd, roger06:34
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deffyalright well I am going to install a new sound card and then move my comp back upstairs, thanks for your help06:34
zythdeffy, I don't know, I fix PCs for a living, and I see a TON of USB devices that just won't work properly showing up.  People are always happier with 'real' hardware.  USB just generally seems 'easier'06:34
zythnp hope things work out for you06:35
Otrayobob2: and if i wanna specify the database?06:35
bob2Otrayo: same as you would on local host06:35
Seveas-d databasename06:35
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s2pc2hola06:37
debaterIs it a bad idea to install Ubuntu (5.04) without a network connection?06:37
Otrayobob2: i'm troubleshooting a problem i'm having to connect to a MySQL database on the localhost via Java. I want to see if i can do it normally from the command line so that i can figure out whether the problem is with the database or my java coding...for java it would be jdbc:mysql://localhost/database06:37
bob2debater: it's fine06:37
Otrayobob2: what would it be from the command line06:37
debaterthx bob206:38
s2pc2eso diselo a adolfo06:38
JSHdidn't check the writing :(06:38
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debaterHow do I configure the network afterwards?06:38
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bob2debater: by editing /etc/network/interfaces06:38
debater(I have a cable modem)06:38
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zythshould be DHCP then06:38
isaigood morning!06:39
bob2Otrayo: mysql database06:39
Madeye * */8 * * * in crontab means ?06:39
debatercool, thx guys06:39
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bob2heh, javas another thing I steer well clear of06:39
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isaihow do I get vi to color code different file types?06:39
bob2:syntax on06:40
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isaibob2: thanks, is there a config file I can change to automatically do it?06:40
E0x~/.vimrc06:41
E0xi think06:41
bob2echo syntax on > ~/.vimrc06:41
bob2yeah06:41
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Fabiangood evening everyone06:42
Fabiansome people never end having problems...... :(06:42
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isaiI just added 'syntax on' to the /etc/vim/vimrc file. Thanks a lot!06:42
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SS2zyth: thank you, seems to work with grib better06:43
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zythSS2, np06:43
Fabiangot a Problem: I have the following paritions on my Harddisk: Windows (NTFS), Files (Fat32), Linux Swap, ext3    Why can't  add another partition behind the ext3?06:44
isaiAnother question, when I maximize xterm in gnome the last line in the terminal is slightly below the bottom taskbar. Its annoying. Why does it do that?06:44
we2byany one have vmware running on amd64?06:44
E0xthe mother of all you problem Fabian is one "Windows"06:44
debaterFab: Are they all primary partitions?06:44
bob2Fabian: you can only have 4 primary partitions, or windows will bitch06:44
pfpFabian: one of the first 4 partitions needs to be an extended part. that holds the rest if you need >= 506:45
pfp... and are using a DOS partition table06:45
FabianE0x, debater, bob2, pfp Files is an extended partition06:45
FabianI got 3 prime and one logical so far06:46
debaterhmmm not sure what the prob is then06:46
TokenBadin vsftpd how can I change the defualt port from 21?06:46
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swarmDo you have a guide or better any deb package to setup a 32 bit chroot under Ubuntu Hoary?06:47
bob2TokenBad: why do you want to do that?06:47
bob2swarm: debootstrap06:47
E0xTokenBad edit the config of vsftpd and looking for a line that say something about port listen06:47
TokenBadcause I can't figure out how to get this other damn program to stop fucking with port 2106:47
swarmbob2: what does it do?06:47
TokenBadthere is a data port06:47
bob2swarm: create chroots06:47
TokenBadbut that is for download and upload connections06:47
TokenBadnot the listen port06:48
Fabiananyone an idea, what I can do about my partitions?06:48
bob2TokenBad: a non-ftp-server is listening on port 21?06:48
TokenBadits pureftp06:48
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hodgmanhey, does anyone know of a gnome applet that displays mutiple time zones at the same time in the panel?06:48
TokenBadbut I can't seem to kill it06:48
debaterFab: gives us a more detailed part map06:48
bob2TokenBad: so, remove it then06:48
TokenBadhow06:48
foodcomanHow can I get apt to upgrade the following?06:48
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foodcomanlibavcodeccvs libpostproc0 libxvidcore4 mplayer-38606:49
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foodcomanThe following packages have been kept back:06:49
bob2TokenBad: with synaptic or whatever you normally use06:49
FabianSeveas, ya here?06:49
foodcomanCame up with a dist-upgrade.06:49
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laxisedoes anyone know how to find out my OWN IP really quick???06:50
E0xTokenBad06:50
E0xlisten_port06:50
E0x    If vsftpd is in standalone mode, this is the port it will listen on for incoming FTP connections.06:50
E0x    Default: 2106:50
jfk303can someone who's running rythmbox drag around the vertical bar separating the 'source' panel from the 'browser' panel all around? Does it move soothly or jerkily?06:50
pfphmm.. is it possible to direct different gnome apps' sound to different06:50
foodcomanifconfig06:50
Lafitte-laxise, IFCONFIG06:50
pfp[fat fingers, sorry] 06:50
Lafitte-no caps06:51
Fabiandebater, what exactly do you need?06:51
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laxiseLafitte: thx06:52
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pfpis it possible to direct different gnome apps' sound to different outputs on a multichannel card? (it's possible w/ alsa and xmms)06:52
dabiis there any video codec pack? i just installed ubuntu to my laptop and i need some basic codecs like avi mpeg xvid divx and cook for realvideo06:52
yakkdabi, w32codecs & w32codecs-lite I think06:52
yahalomanyone compared ubuntu to fc4?06:52
bob2dabi: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:52
bob2yahalom: you're not going to get a useful answer unless yo utry both06:53
dabiyakk: apt-get?06:53
swarmbob2: I need such chroot 32 bit to build source code developed having in mind 32 bit. Is it better pbuilder? I have just checked something and man debootstrap says that. Right?06:53
yakkdabi, I may have gotten that from: deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main06:53
yakkdabi, but I got the instructions from where bob2 says I think06:53
bob2swarm: if you code is 32-bit-specific and isn't assembler, it's broken06:54
dabiok thnx both :)06:54
yahalombob2, i tried fc3 and the chose ubuntu. if fc4 is much like fc3 then i know my choice.06:54
bob2swarm: fix it so it compiles on amd6406:54
yakkwhats the status of an inotify enabled kernel in breezy - I see it in the changelog, but not in my boot messages or /dev/06:54
bob2swarm: if you want to compile binaries for i386, then a chroto is the way to go06:54
bob2swarm: pbuilder is more annoying if you want to work inside the chroot06:54
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cyclonesynic <306:55
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swarmbob2: yes itsn't my code but to see if it's really broken, not having another 32 bit platform I would like to compile source on both 32 and 64 to see what is wrong in source and what is wrong for my mistake. Ok, so I won't use pbuilder. Thanks.06:56
_kevinI'm trying to compile PyGTK-2.6.2 from source and ig et an error message saying headers required to compile python extensions... not found configure: error: could not find Python headers06:56
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_kevinwhere can i get the nessesary Python headers?06:57
bob2why do you want 2.6.2 in particular?06:57
_kevini checked to install a program06:57
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r0bbythey need to put qmail into the apt repository06:57
_kevin2.6.2 is the latest version06:58
r0bby:)06:58
pestilenceso i think i have conquered this fluxbox problem, and the solution doesn't seem to be found in the forums...06:58
pestilencefluxbox was taking *forever* to load.06:58
_kevinok this si program I'm trying to install ---> http://parano.berlios.de/  and if u read the bottom it tells you what you need06:58
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pestilenceby changing two lines in ~/.fluxbox/init, it seems to have made things right.06:59
bob2_kevin: so, there's no reason at all to compile pygtk06:59
bob2_kevin: install python-gtk206:59
pestilencechange these lines --    session.menuFile:       ~/.fluxbox/menu06:59
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_kevinso apt-get install python-gtk2?07:00
pestilenceand    session.keyFile:        ~/.fluxbox/keys07:00
bob2_kevin: indeed07:00
_kevinok thanks07:00
pestilencecan't explain why that makes such a huge difference, but at this point i don't care :)07:00
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Jet2k5Hello guys, I'm trying once again to play .wmv videos,  but w32codecs has gone missing.  I can't find it anywhere is there another package to handle the formats?07:00
pestilenceit was taking longer than gnome or kde to load.  now it loads in a matter of seconds.07:00
bob2Jet2k5: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats07:00
pfppestilence: might be a good idea to publish that somewhere? ,)07:00
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_kevinbob2 it's already installed07:01
bob2_kevin: awesome07:01
pestilencepfp: i'm going to put it in the forums, perhaps i need to file a bug too.07:01
_kevini guess I'll try to complie the program now07:01
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FabianSeveas, are you not here?07:02
pixelmonkeyI have a tiny little "behavior", and I want to make sure it's a bug... I recently discovered an old ultra-tiny 20GB hard drive with a PCMCIA adapter that works with ide-cs, which is actually useful to me.  I setup an fstab entry for it, and now when I plug it in, a nautilus window shows up with the drive automounted.  However, the drive doesn't show up in the "Computer" Window, like my other removables do, so that I can unmount them07:02
pixelmonkey when I'm done.  Is this a udev issue?07:02
pestilencei'm curious if the same problem is happening with openbox.  i don't understand why it copies your configuration files over to your home directory but then continues to use system-wide ones.07:03
_kevinchecking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool  how do i get XML::Parser perl module?07:03
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Fabiancould someone elst try to help me with my partition problems? seems I need an expert! :D07:03
bob2_kevin: so, you need to do the basic work yourself before asking on irc07:03
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bob2_kevin: punch that module name into http://packages.ubuntu.com/07:04
yahalomhow is ubuntu as a server?07:04
bob2outstanding07:04
paueaswhat package would contain codecs for windows media videos?07:04
_kevinok sorry.. I didn't know these things are already in ubuntu, becau ei goto synaptic and search for py-gtka nd i get no results so i assume it's not instakk07:04
yahalombob2, really?07:04
_kevininstall*07:04
GNULinuxerpaueas, w32codecs07:04
bob2paueas: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats07:04
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bob2it'd be great if people could read the FAQ, too07:05
yahalombob2, like i could set it up for a man?07:05
bob2yahalom: I don't know what that means07:05
yahalombob2, MAN=metropolitan area network07:05
paueasthanks07:06
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bob2yahalom: I don't know how that differs from anything else, but I'd assume so07:06
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Fabianis there no partition expert in here?07:06
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yahalombob2, basically a huge lan07:06
GNULinuxerbob2, which package contains sdl.m4?07:06
hugos_kevin, http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/M/MS/MSERGEANT/XML-Parser-2.34.tar.gz <--- XML::Parser07:06
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GNULinuxerFabian,07:07
bob2GNULinuxer: http://packages.ubuntu.com/07:07
riji"Please configure hardware acceleration.  Exiting."07:07
Jet2k5bob2: it doesn't talk abou the authentication07:07
bob2please don't advise peopel to install random things from CPAN07:07
Jet2k5now what?07:07
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rijiwhere and how do i do that?07:07
bob2Jet2k5: I have no idea what you mean07:07
FabianGNULinuxer, did you read my problem before?07:07
Jet2k5bob2: you need authentication on the servers07:07
bob2Jet2k5: if you mean "I tried to use the backports repository and it asked for a password.", then go read the backports web page07:07
Jet2k5this one doesn't have it07:07
bob2go read their web page07:08
Jet2k5shouldn't be a backport07:08
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bob2_kevin: no, XML::Parser is in ubuntu07:08
rijihow do i configure hardware acceleration.07:08
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Jet2k5it is a backport\07:08
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dieterman UBUNTU is nice!07:09
jdodsoni think so.07:09
dietervery easy to use in fact even for a new one to linux :)07:09
hugosbob2, where is XML::Parser ?07:09
Nightcr8wl3ryes it is07:09
bob2libxml-parser-perl07:09
Nightcr8wl3rits very nice and simple to use07:09
hugosok07:09
dieterI think the UBUNTU guys have converted me :d07:10
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Nightcr8wl3rthey are going a great job07:10
FabianGNULinuxer, Got the following partitions on my HD: Windows (Prim/NTFS), Files (Log/FAT 32), Swap (Prim), ext3 (Prim). Now, I'd like to add another ext3 partition at the end of my HD. How can I do this???07:10
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madsenFabian: with 'parted'07:10
nJessis it possible to upgrade warty to hoary?07:11
bob2of course07:11
madsenFabian: Don't ask me for details, 'cause I don't remember. :)07:11
nJessapt-get upgrade?07:11
yakknJess, probably apt-get dist-upgrade07:11
nJessthanks07:11
bob2nJess: wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryUpgradeNotes07:11
madsennJess: Replace "warty" with "hoary" in your /etc/apt/sources.list, apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade07:11
bob2and make sure you have ubuntu-desktop installed07:11
nJessif it gets interrupted will i be able to resume?07:11
bob2nJess: the download? yes.07:11
chrissturmmadsen: did you get e17 working?07:12
nJessgood07:12
nJessits around 400 megs07:12
madsenchrissturm: Nope, I stopped trying. Hehe...07:12
pfpFabian: hmm, maybe your extended partition doesn't cover all of the free area07:12
nJessand i am limited to 100 ever 4 hours07:12
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nJessi hate my isp07:12
arkainiumWhat's recommended after recovering from bad sectors on the hard drive?  The system *appears* to be find and boots up normally.07:12
arkainiumfine*07:12
Fabianpfp, there are 5 GB unused at the end of the HD07:12
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pfpFabian: could you paste `fdisk -l /dev/yourdisk` somewhere?07:12
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chrissturmmadsen: maybe you want to look at jhbuild and luminocity. its great eye candy07:12
dieterI was looking for those funny tux backgrounds ... the one where he has the big eyes. Does anyone know where to find these ? I've searched several sites ....07:12
melt_bjrs07:12
pinkoI hear it's best to get a new drive.07:13
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melt_y a t'il des fr07:13
pinkobecause more is bound to go wrong.07:13
melt_?07:13
madsenchrissturm: jhbuild?07:13
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madsenchrissturm: I know luminocity. :)07:13
yakkmadsen, a tool to build stuff from cvs nicely07:13
chrissturmjhbuild is a script that builds gnome stuff from cvs07:13
pfpFabian: my theory is that the 5G isn't  _inside_ the extended partition07:13
madsenchrissturm, yakk: Nice! :) Gotta check it out sometime soon. :)07:13
Fabianpfp, in privat07:13
melt_i search french people for explain me a ubuntu system07:14
chrissturmmadsen, http://live.gnome.org/Luminocity07:14
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chrissturmmadsen, it was very straightforward to setup07:14
bob2be very careful with that07:15
bob2make sure yo udon't overwrite the ubuntu X and GTK stuff07:15
madsenchrissturm: Wasn't I the one who introduced you to luminocity, like, yesterday? (Or am I remembering things all wrong?)07:15
chrissturmbob2, it only installs into /opt07:15
yahalomis breezy safe yet? or breakage still high?07:15
chrissturmmadsen, i tried it some weeks ago07:15
xxtremeguys how do you open ports in ubuntu 5.04, I'm trying to open new ports to get faster downloads07:15
madsenchrissturm: Oh, ok. :)07:15
chrissturmyahalom, i run it without problems on 2 systems. dunno why ubuntu guys say its not stable07:16
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yahalomchrissturm, how do i get it?07:16
chrissturmfor me its as stable as hoary was at that time07:16
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micheltshi guys,07:16
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micheltsis there a way to remaster ubuntu?07:17
madsenWell, gotta go eat. :)07:17
madsenchrissturm: Thanks for the link. :) I'll check it out soon. :)07:17
bob2xxtreme: that's not how networking works07:17
chrissturmyahalom, i am not recommending it to you, but if you want to still try it, open /etc/apt/sources.list07:17
bob2xxtreme: ubuntu doesn't have any "closed" ports07:17
chrissturmyahalom, and change hoary to breezy07:17
anatolewhat is the name of the program that displays shadows "under" windows?07:17
xxtremethanks bobz07:17
bob2anatole: transset07:17
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anatolethanks07:18
mjranatole, xcompmgr07:18
xxtremenmap told me i had lots of closed ones07:18
yahalomchrissturm, every hoary to breezy?07:18
chrissturmyahalom, but you will be on your own07:18
chrissturmyahalom, right07:18
yahalomchrissturm, used to that07:18
bob2xxtreme: no, you're misinterpreting it07:18
chrissturmyahalom, i hang out here, and sometimes i can help07:18
mjrtransset just sets the translucency of a window07:18
xxtremeok, thanks so much07:18
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chrissturmhey, there's a metacity branch with luminocity features, anyone know about it?07:19
thenukeI think some kind of a rule of a thumb is that if one does not know how to upgrade to breezy, one _really_ is not able to handle it :D07:19
madsenchrissturm: Uh, btw... There's also expocity... (Let me just find a link.)07:19
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madsenchrissturm: http://www.pycage.de/software_expocity.html07:20
madsenchrissturm: It's a metacity hack.07:20
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chrissturmthx madsen07:21
madsenchrissturm: np :)07:21
yahalomchrissturm, ok did it. wish me luck07:21
seliniumHi all, I have used ssh to connect to my remote webserver. But how do I use it to connect to my PC?07:21
chrissturmyahalom: did you also sudo apt-get update07:21
pestilenceok, i have posted my findings at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4195007:21
yahalomchrissturm, am now07:21
bob2selinium: the same way07:22
chrissturmyahalom: be careful with dist-upgrade though07:22
yahalomchrissturm, getting errors with breezy-backports, no such repo?07:22
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yahalomchrissturm, uncomment it?07:22
chrissturmyahalom, remove that one07:22
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seliniumbob2: is there anyway of testing it without using another pc?07:22
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yahalomchrissturm, dont do dist-upgrade?07:22
bob2selinium: ssh localhost07:22
chrissturmyahalom, try dist-upgrade,07:23
bob2selinium: assuming you installed the ssh server (openssh-server)07:23
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chrissturmyahalom, it will tell you what it wants to do07:23
chrissturmif it wants to remove a lot of packages, dont do it07:23
pinkois that opening up a security minefield, to install a ssh server?07:23
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bob2no07:23
pinkoif you don't absolutely need one I mean07:23
bob2assuming you have a decent password07:23
yahalomchrissturm, ok thats not good07:23
seliniumbob2: Ah, that is what I am missing then! :)07:24
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yahalomchrissturm, it wants to remove a whole bunch of stuff07:24
yahalomchrissturm, dont like that07:24
chrissturmyahalom, thats ok if it also installs about the same amount of new stuff07:24
yahalomchrissturm, it removes a quarter of what it wants to install07:24
chrissturmyahalom: does it remove ubuntu-desktop?07:25
yahalomchrissturm, meaning it wants to install about three times more of what it removes07:25
chrissturmyahalom: that looks ok then07:25
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syndanyone know how to make gdesklets transparent?07:25
yahalomchrissturm, no but this concerns me: libsigc++-1.2-5c102 libsigc++-2.0-0 libsmpeg0 to be removed07:26
chrissturmthats ok07:26
yahalomchrissturm, ah ok07:26
chrissturmits because of the c++ transition07:26
thenukesynd: tried right click on the desklet to configure it?07:26
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yahalomchrissturm, so its safe?07:26
bob2hand-holding someone to move to breezy is asking for trouble07:26
chrissturmyou will see it installs different versions of these libs07:26
chrissturmyahalom: i feel a bit bad about that07:26
syndthenuke: not seeing anything07:27
yahalombob2, thats how i moved to ubuntu07:27
yahalombob2, :)07:27
thenukesynd: ok :I maybe it's impossible then, or depending on the desklet07:27
yahalomchrissturm, i'm not looking for guarantee07:27
bob2yahalom: what is?07:27
yahalomchrissturm, lets see. if i dissapear07:27
syndthenuke: its not impossible.. ive seen screenshots of it07:27
yahalombob2, being hand held07:28
chrissturmyahalom: it could be that X breaks07:28
bob2that's fine07:28
bob2but using breezy if you have no idea is a bad bad bad idea07:28
yahalomchrissturm, so then i do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?07:28
chrissturmnope07:28
chrissturmthen you need to get to irc with irssi07:28
bob2no, hen you go trawling the bug reports to find the fix07:28
chrissturmor BitchX07:28
yahalombob2,  :( too late07:28
Seveas:)07:28
bob2yahalom: /topic07:29
yahalombob2, i see07:29
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chrissturmyahalom: its not too late now07:29
yahalomchrissturm, np07:29
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pinkois there a particular debian package for openssh-server?07:29
chrissturmas long as its still downloading packages07:29
yahalomchrissturm, why wouldnt dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg work?07:29
bob2pinko: yes, openssh-server07:29
bob2pinko: in sarge it was part of the ssh package07:30
thenukeyahalom: why did you have to upgrade to breezy X-)07:30
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Seveasyahalom, because that only works on working systems07:30
pinkoah, ok.  I have ssh installed.07:30
chrissturmyahalom: if the package is badly broken it wont work07:30
Seveasnot on systems that are as broken as breezy07:30
yahalomthenuke, cos i'm a freak who likes to live on the edge?07:30
yahalom:)07:30
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chrissturmbreezy is not so badly broken07:30
anacronwhy the hell xmms menu font is so small i can barely see it07:30
chrissturmits just not true07:30
bob2chrissturm: not at the moment it's not07:30
bob2anacron: install gtk-theme-switch, run switch, fix it07:31
yahalomchrissturm, ok well if i'll have to reinstall then i'll reinstall07:31
anacronbob2: k thanks07:31
yahalombob2, lets say i want to reverse it, anyway?07:31
chrissturmyahalom: if you dont have work to do with your system and you are ready to spend some time07:31
chrissturmyahalom, you could learn some stuff07:31
bob2yahalom: reintall07:31
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yahalombob2, thought so :)07:32
yahalomchrissturm, yeah always a good way to learn linux07:32
thenukeyahalom: yup, but it is pretty obvious that the breezy _will_ break, and to me it seems as obvious that you dont yet have the skills to fix it and so on :) no offense at all07:32
yahalomchrissturm, and to drive my family crazy07:32
bob2yahalom: it's possible to downgrade, but a massive pain in the ass07:32
yahalomthenuke, not offended :)07:32
anacronbob2: what next?07:32
ilba7rfrequently when i am running ubuntu and am not openning to much applications the cpu usuage become crazy and the pc just reboots any idea what might cause that07:33
chrissturmbob2: and you are expecting big breakage in breezy in the future?07:33
yahalomthenuke, u running breezy?07:33
dieterilba7r, maybe heating ?07:33
dietersame problem under windows ? :)07:33
chrissturmi thought the big breakage was the toolchain change07:33
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thenukeyahalom: nope :)07:33
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chrissturmand that one has now settled07:33
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ilba7rnope i made sure of that so do not think it is heating07:33
wulfepuphey hi guys07:33
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thenukeyahalom: I see no reason for using OS that breaks ;D07:34
anacronhi hello wulfepup!07:34
thenukesooner or later07:34
Lafitte-<-----broke system first day doing breezy upgrade  hahaha07:34
yahalomthenuke, oh well the tought path is the most fulfilling07:34
yahalomwell if i d/c all of a sudden u guys can laugh, and if not we'll just have to laugh later07:34
ilba7rthe problem is i am working for sometime and all of a sudden i loose my work07:34
bob2anacron: ? that's all.07:35
bob2chrissturm: I'd be very surprisde if nothing broke between now and release07:35
yahalombob2, all breakage requires a reinstall. surely it can be fixed, unless its like the damn issues i had with gnome.07:35
wulfepupok .. with the wiki being tweaked around a bit I've lost how to enable dma on my dvd drive....07:36
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SeamusLPwulfepup:  Check the forums out07:36
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anacronbob2: it's not bigger than before :(07:37
bob2anacron: did you increase the font size?07:37
thenukeyahalom: I just have to put you on my notify list and ask you later about your breezy ;D07:37
anacronbob2: yeah07:37
bob2yahalom: no gnome issue is going to require a reinstall07:37
bob2yahalom: and no breakage requires it, either, for people who know what they are doing07:37
anacronbob2: i'll try to reboot x07:37
wulfepupSeamusLP: thanks!07:38
chrissturmyahalom, you will learn a lot about using the console :)07:38
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bob2anacron: that won't help07:38
anacronbob2: maybe reinstallin' xmms?07:39
bob2no, that won't help wither07:39
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bob2I'd assume you didn't set it right07:39
bob2paste your ~/.gtkrc to #flood07:40
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wulfepupspeaking of console ... I just found one of my new best friends....  the "commander" for the Gnome panel...  it's a mini command line07:40
zakannis there ny french channel?07:40
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bob2#ubuntu-fr07:40
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TokenBadI installed the w32codecs and still can't play wmv07:40
TokenBadany help?07:40
ivoksTokenBad: mplayer should play them07:41
HiddenWolftokenbad, try vlc or mplayer07:41
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yahalomthenuke, cool07:41
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yahalombob2, so i better start learning07:41
wulfepup*with tongue firmly in cheek*  TokenBad: try using Windows?  (heheheheheheheheeee)07:41
HiddenWolfwulfepup, bad boy!07:42
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yahalomchrissturm, yeah well i tried install crux07:42
anacronbob2: if that should be a file, there's nothing in it, if it's a command it won't work07:42
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TokenBadheheh07:42
wulfepuphehehehehe07:42
thenukeyahalom: but do not ask the channel when you got into problems with it ;P07:42
yahalomchrissturm, and i succeeded after losign my head07:42
ChrisCFI've recently had problems with one HD, and now e2fsck segfaults while the checking the other07:42
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zakannI try to compile some plugins for beep-media-player, and there's a lot of mistakes. I've installed some packages who resolves some mistakes, but not all. It's a plugins with a install.pl07:42
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yahalomthenuke, what no tech support for breezy in the chan? only forums?07:42
anacronyahalom: i didn't know even headless people use linux07:43
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TokenBaddman07:43
TokenBaddamn07:43
TokenBadmissed07:43
dieterlol07:43
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Seveasyahalom, there will indeed be no support for breezy in here07:43
yahalomanacron, surprise surprise wherever u r:)07:43
ChrisCFWhat does it mean when  e2fsck segfaults?07:43
thenukeyahalom: well I am not sure about it, but I bet that the community does not wish to help every newcomer who willingly breaks his system :D07:43
Choubakabad things. :D07:43
bob2ChrisCF: things are very very screwed07:43
yahalomSeveas, np07:43
bob2ChrisCF: I'd assume your kernel is oopsing07:43
ivoksChrisCF: maybe it isn't ext2?07:43
thenukeinstead of sticking to the stable distribution07:43
TokenBadhmm07:44
Seveasthenuke, indeed :)07:44
TokenBadmplayer will not open07:44
yahalomi'll use the forums07:44
TokenBadjust crashes07:44
ChrisCFivoks: It's ext3, which is identical but for the journal07:44
bob2ChrisCF: look at the output of 'dmesg'07:44
ivoksChrisCF: i hope you don't use fsck.ext2 for checking ext3 :)07:44
yahalomchrissturm, how long u been running breezy?07:44
chrissturmseveas: is is discouraged to help people with breezy?07:44
bob2no07:44
HiddenWolfthenuke, problem with breezy atm is that it's still pretty damn broken, toolchain transition and such. Usually half of the channel runs unstable, but now, you'd have to be a devel, or loony, or a glutton for pain. :P07:45
bob2it's discouraged to tell people to use it07:45
Seveaschrissturm, of course not07:45
chrissturmok07:45
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thenukechrissturm: obviously you should not courage newbies to upgrade to breezy..07:45
chrissturmi told him not to do it07:45
Seveass/newbies/anyone/07:45
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yahalomyeah he did07:45
thenukebut you told him how to do it :)07:45
thenukeI would not do that07:45
yahalomi just always go for the extreme07:45
anacronhmm, when i login in my account, first any music won't come out, then i kill esd process with system monitor, and sounds starts work right away, how to fix this?, and i wonder why there is two processes named esd?07:45
yahalomdive in the deep end07:45
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thenukeone reallly needs to be new to linux if does not know how to do that ;)07:46
Myrtti/me gets her whip07:46
ivoksmandriva and lycrois are family now07:46
yahalomgets me high07:46
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thenukeso it just will hurt the newbie AND the community when newbie comes to ask what to do when it breaks07:46
pestilenceanacron: you can prevent esd from starting through control panel settings.07:46
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pierre_Hello, I'm new to ubuntu and Linux07:46
HiddenWolfyahalom, try a joint, it's a lot less expensive than your pc, and I bet it'll get you high faster. :)07:46
melrosemrmchannel07:46
ChrisCFivoks: Well, what else do you use?07:46
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Seveaspierre_, welcome then :)07:46
pierre_I installed ubuntu and that was easy ...07:46
pestilenceanacron: i believe one is "multimedia sound system", the other is just "sound"07:46
ChrisCF(in the absence of a fsck.ext3)07:46
SeveasHiddenWolf, lol :)07:46
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yahalomHiddenWolf, i dont like anything going through my mouth other than food and drink07:47
HiddenWolfSeveas, I'm allowed to say that, am I? :)07:47
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ivoksChrisCF: fsck.ext307:47
anacronpestilence: it was sound :)07:47
pestilenceanacron: unselect "start sound system automatically"07:47
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pierre_Put my printer won't work, it a HP PSC-1200 (1210) and it doesn't work07:47
ChrisCFbob2: last line is: ext3: No journal on filesystem on hdd707:47
SeveasChrisCF, is your kernel is oopsing (something bob2 suggested), run memtest86...07:47
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wulfepupdoes Ubuntu have a higher ratio of "new to Linux" users than other distros?07:47
anacronpestilence: but anyway thanks07:47
pestilenceanacron: right, but the other one lets you select teh default sound system, change it to alsa07:47
HiddenWolfyahalom, I can think of some things, but the puritans here would ban me ;)07:47
ivoksChrisCF: i used fsck.ext2 once on ext3... almost get fierd from company07:47
pierre_I install it via the print option but it doesn't do anything!07:47
yahalomHiddenWolf, besides the combo would make things much worse07:47
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timm-e-Janyone know if there are any plans to implement some sort of free java implementation into ubuntu (like fedora core 4 did)?07:47
pierre_what should i do?07:47
Seveaswulfepup, because it is newbie-friendly07:47
marte_c' qualcuno che parla italiano per un aiutino?07:47
ChrisCFivoks: er, they're the same program07:47
bob2wulfepup: than some, yes07:47
Mikshow can i have write permisions in some extra hard drive i have? i already mounted it with the "rw" option but if im not root then i cant delete or create files in it07:47
Seveaspierre_, have you searched the forums/google?07:47
ChrisCFbob2: last line is: ext3: No journal on filesystem on hdd707:47
ivoksChrisCF: if you belive they are...07:48
Seveasmarte_, #ubuntu-it07:48
bob2ChrisCF: yes, the last line is no use07:48
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pierre_Well they all say that it should work!07:48
marte_Seveas, grazie07:48
SeveasMiks, is it ntfs?07:48
dockanesomebody inhere with expederience regarding phillips saa7134 tv cards (pci) and hoary ?07:48
pepsibob2!07:48
bob2hi07:48
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Miksno..its fat32...vfat07:48
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SeveasMiks, mount it with the option umask=000007:48
wulfepuppierre_: That should work oob .. my psc 1610 did  (well printing anyway... scanning I haven't set up yet)07:48
Miksthanks Seveas07:48
ChrisCFchris@delyth:~ $ diff /sbin/fsck.ext2 /sbin/fsck.ext307:48
HiddenWolfdockane, what's the problem?07:49
ChrisCFNothing.07:49
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melrosemrmsorry people, I am a newbie but I really would appreciate any help. I am trying to connect my wireless card to my wireless router. But I don't know how to connect them both.07:49
pierre_Well this one doesn't even print one thing!07:49
pierre_How can I check that the connection works ok!07:49
thechitowncubsI have a few questions about sound on Ubuntu, maybe I could get some answers :). Every time a gaim notifications sounds there is a slight cracking noise either at the beginning and the end, what is the cause of that or is that normal?07:49
ChrisCFbob2: There's nothing in there that I can see that might be useful07:49
anacronpestilence: yeah, it works now, you made my day07:49
anacronif i can say so07:49
Seveasmelrosemrm, go to wiki.ubuntu.com07:49
thechitowncubsSound and multimedia seems to be the only thing lacking perfection :)07:49
pestilenceanacron: that was easy :)07:49
Seveasread the WiFiHoeto07:49
yahalomhow do i tarball my home dir?07:49
shalewhen is breezy supposed to be ready?07:50
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Seveasyahalom, tar zcvf /tmp/myhome.tar.gz ~07:50
ChrisCFI don't think the kernel was oopsing07:50
HiddenWolfpierre_ wireless networking on linux is a bit tricky, you might have to try a lot to get it working07:50
Seveasshale, october07:50
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anacronbut why the hell there is even such a thing as esd if it makes so much problems and alsa works just fine07:50
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ChrisCFsince this has happened with teh same HD in two different machines07:50
dieteranyone know a good wysiwyg editor in llinux ?07:50
pestilencethechitowncubs: do you use kubuntu?07:50
yahalomSeveas, why /tmp?07:50
HiddenWolfSeveas, leave some for the rest of us ;)07:50
SeveasHiddenWolf, pierre_ was not asking that :)07:50
Myrttidieter: NVU07:50
shaleSeveas, thanks :)07:50
Seveasyahalom, where else?07:50
thechitowncubsNo, I would be in the07:50
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pierre_HiddenWolf, it is a printer not wireless07:50
pierre_USB07:50
thechitowncubs#kubuntu channel if i did :)07:50
Seveascannot be in your home, you are tarring that :)07:50
HiddenWolfpierre_, omg, sorry07:50
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Myrttidieter: if looking for a (x)HTML-editor07:50
yahalomSeveas, umm. ok.07:51
pestilencethechitowncubs: see my suggestion for anacron ... in particular, disable esd.07:51
Razor-Xthechitowncubs: the #kubuntu channel is more or less dead07:51
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dieterMyrtti, yes HTML and PHP editor07:51
thechitowncubsYa, I don't use KDE :P07:51
ChrisCFbrb - kitchen ...07:51
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RiddellRazor-X: looks pretty active to me07:51
SeveasRazor-X, there are 96 people in there07:51
Razor-XI do ;)07:51
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HiddenWolfpierre_, you'll have to add the printer under places > administration > printers07:51
Seveaswouldn't call it dead07:51
pestilencethechitowncubs: which is why my advise to anacron applies to you ;)07:51
thechitowncubspestilence: where is your suggestion for anacron and what is it07:51
Razor-XRiddell: last time I went there, theer were a lot of users and no-one talking07:51
pierre_HiddenWolf, I did that... and added the correct model07:51
pestilencethechitowncubs: disable esd.  under the control panel -> sound, uncheck "start sound system automatically"07:51
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Razor-X*there07:52
pestilencethechitowncubs: under multimedia systems selector, choose alsa.07:52
HiddenWolfpierre_, stupid, but the printer is on, cables are ok, etc?07:52
yahalomeight freaking hours!07:52
bkinmanSo. I want WineTools, how do i get it07:52
yahalomwhat did u guys build!?!?!07:52
dieterMyrtti, I'm having a look at the NVU website ... thanks mate!07:52
Seveaspestilence, that's stupid....07:52
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HiddenWolfpierre_, any other usb devices on those ports?07:52
pierre_Yes cables are in07:52
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Seveaspestilence, ubuntu uses esd, do not advice other ways...07:52
dockaneHiddenWolf, no problem yet. do i have to expect any problems ? what should i read before installing a cinergy 400 pci ?07:52
pierre_only the mouse07:52
pestilenceSeveas: it is?  i've had issuees with esd.07:52
Razor-XSeveas: you read my draft yet?07:52
pestilenceSeveas: and clearly i'm not the only one.07:52
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deanmpg07:53
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Seveaspestilence, ok, then help him solve all the problems he'll get without esd..07:53
laxisehow to set up mountpoint pls someone .... man page would be enough ... thx07:53
pestilenceSeveas: until those issues are addressed, i don't think it's unreasonable to scrap esd.07:53
thechitowncubspestilence: where is the control panel07:53
Myrttilaxise: man fstab07:53
Seveaslaxise, for fat or ntfs drives?07:53
pestilenceSeveas: such as?07:53
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thechitowncubswhy is it stupid and is there any other solution?07:53
bkinmanAnyone know how i would go about getting wine tools? im not seeing it in the repository, but people in the ubuntu forums are apparently using it.07:53
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laxisentfs07:53
Seveaspestilence, other apps suddenly not having sound...07:53
ChrisCFMy dmesg does not contain the word "Oops" either.07:53
pierre_All looks ok but the printer wont budge07:53
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deanhow do I stream mpg content. I can't load windows media player on ubuntu os07:53
HiddenWolfdockane, I don't have that hardware, but most cards work fine, you'd have more luck if you figure out the chip that's on the card, then use google to check if there's support for that chip in linux07:53
pestilenceSeveas: i have yet to encounter an example of that.07:53
pierre_what can I do else07:53
Seveaslaxise, download http://ubuntulinux.nl/~dennis/windows_fstab and run tat07:54
ChrisCFWould it be worth attaching fsck to a debugger for a backtrace?07:54
HiddenWolfdockane, I'd just put it in, install something like tvtime, and try to make it work.07:54
Razor-Xdean: o cours, Windows Media Player is for Windows, this is Linux ;)07:54
SeveasChrisCF, of course :)07:54
LokeDKUbuntu's gnome.. is it possible to get all windows in the window list.. and not just for the single desktop? Looked everywhere07:54
Razor-Xdean: VLC has some nice streaming options07:54
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deanhow do I get VLC07:54
dockaneHiddenWolf, tvtime is a start. thnx07:54
dieterMyrtti, this was the mozilla editor no ? I'm looking for something more advanced ... trying quanta plus now07:54
pierre_anybody any help?07:54
Razor-Xdean: sudo apt-get install vlc07:54
anacroni think it's vlc-player07:55
Seveasno, just vlc07:55
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deanwhat? don't understand the lingo07:55
anacronok07:55
anacronmaybe it whas other distro then07:55
Seveasdean, type in that exact command07:55
Seveasto install vlc (a good streaming media player)07:55
deanwhere do you type it?07:55
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HiddenWolfdockane, if you can't find more than a few channels, try tvtime-scanner07:55
bkinmanMan, this channel is so busy i feel helpless. Where can i find winetools, anyone? i cant apt-get it.07:56
Seveasdean, in a terminal07:56
pestilencethechitowncubs: Seveas is entitled to his opinion, but i frankly disagree. disable esd and select alsa, see if that works for you.  if it doesn't you can re-enable it just as easily.  but i have been without esd all my years and never had a problem with plain old alsa.07:56
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Seveasbkinman, wine-utils07:56
thechitowncubsalright, i'll give it a shot07:56
Seveasbkinman, apt-cache search wine can help too07:56
Razor-XI miss school...07:56
HiddenWolfbkinman, try also #ubuntu-<yourcountrycode> - #ubuntu-fr for french users, for instance07:56
Razor-Xand their free printers on which i'ld print voluminous amounts of pages07:56
Seveaspestilence, the situation is even worse for my opinion: Ubuntu will ditch esd for breezy :)07:57
pestilenceSeveas: hehe07:57
thechitowncubsNice, as long as everything works better :)07:57
thechitowncubssound sucks on linux07:57
vol0zaHello, I have a problem relative to the font rendering in gnome under Hoary. I'm trying to use the Sans font but some characters with diacritics (czech) are taken from a different font - Nimbus Sans L. Text with mixed characters looks really ugly. This problem occurs in all gnome-applications I have tested. Can you direct me to some solution? plz07:57
Seveasbut i will by default support the default of ubuntu07:57
pestilencethechitowncubs: correction: esd sucks.07:57
thechitowncubsoh, sry07:57
HiddenWolfthechitowncubs, it sucks worse on windows :)07:57
thechitowncubsnot from my experience07:58
thechitowncubsbut anyways, pestilence: how can i get my sound working in gaim again07:58
HiddenWolfvol0za, try installing the msstcorefonts07:58
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thechitowncubsthere is no option for alsa in the sound properties07:58
thechitowncubsand when i select automatic it doesn't work07:58
Seveasvol0za, try setting the default font to nimbus sans l07:58
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SeveasHiddenWolf, how on earth will that help him..?07:58
pestilencethechitowncubs: under the control panel "multimedia system selector" choose alsa07:58
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HiddenWolfSeveas, hell of a lot of better fonts, imho07:58
thechitowncubsI did that already07:59
thechitowncubsI'm talking about GAIM specifically07:59
vol0zaOK it could be partial solution, but I would like to use the Sans font.07:59
licketyhas anyone tried debian 3.1 stable?07:59
ChrisCFGrr.  How do I attach?07:59
SeveasHiddenWolf, but he'll still have to set that up....07:59
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ChrisCFgdb doesn't seem to like the program being started with arguments07:59
gahanwho uses gnome? my shutdown/turn off ability disappeared! wtf? i can only logout, i cant even turnoff/halt from gdm. sure i can type sudo halt etc. but my daddy can not :) help!:)07:59
Seveasgdb <program>07:59
ChrisCFsince even with or without -- it thinks the arguments are for it07:59
thechitowncubsgahan: i use gnome :)07:59
Seveasand in gsb add the args07:59
vol0zaI forget to mention the I tried the same on Debian Sarge and it work OK07:59
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HiddenWolfseveas, just installing them made my ride smoother. :)08:00
pestilencethechitowncubs: well, i guess Seveas may be right in this case, although i don't understand it.  i don't use sounds in gaim, and don't have sound on this machine to test it in any event.  so just re-enable esd :)08:00
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thechitowncubsthat sucks :)08:00
Seveasvol0za, try to figure where sarge differs from ubuntu in this then :)08:00
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ChrisCFSeveas: How do I do that?08:00
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thechitowncubsSo sound does suck in linux after all08:00
SeveasChrisCF, man gdb08:00
Seveas:)08:00
pepsithechitowncubs, why do you want gaim sounds anyhow?08:00
ChrisCF(preferably without spending 6 hours in the man page)08:00
pestilencepepsi: exactly :)08:01
bleckHey, anyone tried to install VMware?  It's asking for the location of the C header files, and ive downloaded the kernel-header package, but not sure where its locate... seems it was to go to /usr/src/linux/include... any ideas?08:01
pierre_can nobody help me?08:01
thechitowncubsso i know when i get a message08:01
Seveasthechitowncubs, you can set gaim to use alsa instead of esd08:01
HiddenWolfthechitowncubs, sound sucks on every distro :P08:01
thechitowncubsThats why i said linux08:01
pestilencethechitowncubs: enable the message notification plugin08:01
Seveasbleck, aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)08:01
vol0zaSeveas, good point :)08:01
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thechitowncubsSeveas: I don't see that option08:01
pestilencethechitowncubs: then you don't need the sounds08:01
ChrisCFSeveas: Man page doesn't say08:01
licketythat's not true, sound generally sucks if you're using esd, and most distros do08:01
thechitowncubswhat does the notification do08:01
ChrisCFEither that, or it hides it very well08:01
Seveasthechitowncubs, tools->prefs->sound08:01
bleckseveas: thanks!08:01
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thechitowncubsi don't have that option08:02
thechitowncubsi mean08:02
Seveaschange sound method from auto to alsa08:02
thechitowncubsi have that08:02
thechitowncubsbut i don't have the alsa option08:02
pestilencethechitowncubs: you can have it blink the window (a la windows) or just change the window title so that it has a * or a * + new message count08:02
pestilencethechitowncubs: it's nice.08:02
deanhow do you change ones rep08:02
thechitowncubsi'm gonna try it08:02
Seveaschange to 'command' and use aplay then :)08:02
Seveasdean: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto08:02
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thechitowncubsseveas: that worked but the problem i had in the first place still exists08:03
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thechitowncubsmaybe its a gaim problem08:03
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SeveasChrisCF, look better08:03
Seveasrun arglist08:03
Seveasaround line 50 of the manpage08:04
ChrisCF*sigh*08:04
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ChrisCFThat would explain why searching "/argument" didn't find it08:04
erbhi08:04
Seveashi08:04
gahanwtf08:04
ChrisCFWhy can't people write *useful* man pages?08:04
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gahanis there gnome menu editor?08:04
ChrisCF:)08:04
thechitowncubsgahan:08:04
rt_attempting to compile 2.6.11.12 kernel; make menuconfig fails with cp: too many input files  make: scripts/basic/fixdep Error 1  scripts_basic Error 2 -- can someone suggest where to start fixing this?08:04
thechitowncubssudo apt-get install smeg08:04
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thechitowncubsif you have backports enabled08:04
gahansmeg?08:04
HiddenWolfChrisCF, because they're clueless coding nerds, who don't like usability nearly as much as cool new code? ;)08:04
thechitowncubsSimple Menu Editor for Gnome08:04
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sam2where do people usually install programs in linux?08:05
sam2whats the equivalent of "Program files"08:05
gahanbackports is a source in sources.list?08:05
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thechitowncubsgahan: next time check out www.ubuntuguide.org08:05
Seveasrt_, why on earth do you compile your own kernel and why on earth dont you use make-kpkg for that??08:05
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Seveassam2, usually you let your package manager do that08:05
raptoidhi dudes..08:05
raptoidplease help me!!!08:05
Seveassam2, there is no equivalent to Program Files, since linux works completely different08:05
raptoidmy problem: i have advdrw which otomaticly start and mount,now i put also a cdrw on pc but now the both don't funtion ;What can j do?fstab is otomaticly add dvdrw and cd room when they go out i make dev/hdb to dev/hdc  i can mount like so but the problem persist on otomatics.What can i do?08:05
rt_need to compile in rtai real time extensions08:05
gahanok i got it08:05
raptoidhelp..08:06
gahanthx08:06
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Seveasrt_, ok, so use make-kpkg and the ubuntu sources then08:06
raptoidSeveas, hi man..08:06
raptoidhelp me.08:06
Seveasjust edit them to your needs08:06
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rt_thanks will try that08:06
thechitowncubsOne thing I don't understand is why people complain about Fonts so much in Ubuntu.08:06
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erbraptoid, edit your /etc/fstab08:07
Seveasraptoid, if i understand you correctly, you added a piece of hardware to your machine, right?08:07
ivokssam2: windows is only operating system with that stoopidity08:07
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holycowivoks, rofl08:08
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ivoks:)08:08
raptoidSeveas, yes08:08
Seveassam2, if you want to know the gory details, google for debian filesystem hierarchy standard08:08
pierre_Well the port was wrong... Ubuntu look after lpt and not usb port for the printer08:08
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raptoidadd a cdrw08:08
holycowivoks, every windows user i run into that wants to try linux, i tell them to forget everything they learned on windows08:08
holycowbecause its all wrong08:08
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holycowits amazing how far ms has gone to train people all the wrong things08:09
Seveasraptoid, ok, and you didn't change the cable plugged into the dvdrw?08:09
HiddenWolfsam2, ubuntu and debian have a large database with software, which you can install with one command using synaptic or apt-get. As long as the software is in there, all you'll ever need to know about installing it is pressing "install" and clicking the launcher/shortcut08:09
Miksis it bad if i have the "nosuid" and "nodev" options in my hard disk at startup?08:09
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Seveasraptoid, can you paste your fstab on paste.ubuntulinux.nl and include the info about which drive is primary/secondary master/slave please08:10
raptoidSeveas, NO dont change cable08:10
SeveasMiks, if it's the disk that's mounted on /: yes08:10
raptoidSeveas, ok08:10
Seveasotherwise: no08:10
raptoid1 minute.08:10
AllergiqueSomeone know where to find a guide for custom ubuntu (desktop, login, theme...) ? Gnome-look is full of contents but no information!08:10
SeveasAllergique, art.gnome.org/faq.php08:10
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Mikswell...because in the FSTAB they are not present....nosuid and nodev...but when the system is starting it says mounting vfat options rw,user,nosuid,nodev,umask=000008:11
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SeveasMiks, the option user implies nosuid,noexec08:11
Allergiqueyhanks08:11
Miksso...should i remove it?08:11
Allergiquethanks08:11
sorush20Hi guys how do I activate DMA for my DVD player, when I play the DVD its a little jumpy, does anyone know the command line for this... ?08:11
Seveasand it's ok for an extra fat32 partition since that should not contain linux-specific data08:12
BeunoHey, I just installed a new DVD recorder, I can mount CDs and read em with no problem, but now I want to burn DVDs from my Ubuntu Server with "cdrecord", and Im not being able to get it to recognize it. Can anyone point me the right way?08:12
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raptoidSeveas, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/7908:12
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chrissturmi have a problem with nautilus-cd-burner. when burning dvds it works fine, but when i burn a cd it doenst seem to use burn proof, and i get underruns and the burn fails08:12
erbBeuno, why dont use k3b?08:12
sam2Seveas, but when i find a program that i can only get the source for?08:13
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Seveasraptoid, so the old dvdrw is secondary master right?08:13
Beunoerb: I dont have an X server, just plain console08:13
Seveassam2, then you install it into /usr/local08:13
erbehh, ok08:13
optik`http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/8008:13
erbsry08:13
Beuno:)08:13
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optik`you didnt have a space between ntfs and ro08:13
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eruinanyone here know how I might create a python script that would display current playing song in rhythmbox?08:13
Seveasoptik, unrelated, might be due to copypasting :)08:14
optiktrue :P08:14
raptoidSeveas, yes dvdrw secondary master08:14
HiddenWolferuin, there is surely a plugin for that, otherwise ask in #rhythmbox on irc.gnome.org08:14
Seveasraptoid, and you have 2 hard drives?08:14
eruinthanks HiddenWolf ;)08:14
raptoidyes Seveas08:14
Seveasthe second harddrive as secondary slave?08:14
HiddenWolferuin: plugin / -> applet08:14
Seveasraptoid, and the new cdrw is primary slave?08:15
eruinHiddenWolf, I've found a plugin, but I don't think it works with the 0.9 branch of rb08:15
raptoidhdd1 --> primary master hdd2 --> secondary slave dvdrw --> secondary slave --> cdrw primary slave08:15
Beunoany ideas on how to  get cdrecord to recognize my DVDRW?08:16
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Seveasraptoid, then your fstab looks ok, does /media/cdrom1 exist as a directory?08:16
HiddenWolferruin, bug the devels, and your bad for running edge software. :P08:16
raptoidyep mkdir cdrom108:16
sam2HiddenWolf, yeah apt-get works pretty fine so far. But if I find a program that isn't in the repositories I was wondering where people usually put those.08:16
Seveasraptoid, then what is the error you get?08:16
HiddenWolfsam2, to keep things nice and clear, you can put them in /opt (optional stuff)08:17
SeveasHiddenWolf, no08:17
Seveas /usr/local is the fhs standard08:17
GatoLoko^is there some way to install a deb package when dpkg is broken? (sorry, my english isn't very good)08:17
SeveasGatoLoko^, dpkg -i filename.deb08:17
GatoLoko^Seveas dpkg dont work08:18
optikwhen dpkg is broken.....08:18
GatoLoko^xD08:18
optikhow did you break it?08:18
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SeveasGatoLoko^, what goes wrong then?08:18
gge...08:18
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GatoLoko^i'm trying to install dpkg after a downgrade from breezy to hoary08:18
Seveasheh08:18
Seveasdowngrades are almost impossible08:18
raptoidhdd1 - primary master --- cdrw - primary slave --- cdrw - secondary master ---- hdd2 - secondary slave08:19
Seveasand breezy is not supported in here...08:19
GatoLoko^all the other packages are working good08:19
raptoidthere is no error , but the problem is device doesn't get started before I mount them manually08:19
raptoidSeveas..08:19
Seveasraptoid, hmm08:19
Seveasauto-mounting is not the task of fstab08:19
raptoidI just want it to become automaticly08:19
GatoLoko^Seveas i dont ask for help on downgrade, i ask for help to install a package without dpkg08:20
pepsi;)08:20
SeveasGatoLoko^, there is no easy way of doing that08:20
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GatoLoko^may be extracting de files from the deb and putting by hand08:20
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raptoidSeveas, my fstab correct ?08:20
SeveasGatoLoko^, you could try unpacking it, executing the preinstall scripts, copying files and exectuing postinstall scripts08:20
Seveasraptoid, yes08:21
raptoidwhat can I do?08:21
raptoidauto mounting..08:21
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Seveasraptoid, dunno, I don't know exactly is responsible for the automounting08:21
nubbeWhy is cupsd using cpu sometimes even tho I don't have any printer?08:21
Seveasmaybe you've disabled it in gnome08:21
GatoLoko^dpkg dont put some info in a database of installed packages?08:21
SeveasGatoLoko^, it does08:22
Seveasbut you can install dpkg properly once it is running again :)08:22
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BeunoSorry to insist but, I just installed a new DVD recorder, I can mount CDs and read em with no problem, but now I want to burn DVDs from my Ubuntu Server with "cdrecord", and Im not being able to get it to recognize it. Can anyone point me the right way?08:22
Seveasraptoid, look at system->preferences->removable drives and media08:23
chrissturmbeuno: does it work with nautilus-cd burner?08:23
Seveasraptoid, maybe something's wrong there08:23
Seveaschrissturm, it's a machine without X08:23
fabbioneBeuno: use growisofs08:23
GatoLoko^i tried to unpack and run the scripts but it isn't working yet, may be i must edit de database :?08:23
fabbioneBeuno: much better than cdrecord for DVD08:23
SeveasGatoLoko^, no idea, i never tried this myself08:24
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Seveasi was never so stupid to upgrade to breezy :)08:24
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HiddenWolfSeveas, any clue as to when it'll be more or less safeish?08:24
GatoLoko^Beuno cdrecord can't write dvd (yet)08:24
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concept10Anyone use hoary for server?08:24
SeveasHiddenWolf, ENOCLUE08:24
Seveasconcept10, yes, I do08:24
GNULinuxerhi, i just installed ubuntu on a friend's box with intel 845 chipset ... but the resolution is just 640x48008:25
GNULinuxerany solutions?08:25
concept10Seveas, what are you using for your stack08:25
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Seveasstack?08:26
Fabianpfp, can't boot from my knoppix cd :(08:26
SeveasGNULinuxer: To find out ho you can change your dispplay's resolution, go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:26
concept10what version of apache, etc.08:26
pfpFabian: damn08:26
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Fabianpfp, could GRUB be making any problems?08:26
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transgressrunning chmod -R +x on a music folder should be alright correct?08:26
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pfpFabian: what about ubuntu installer, or ubuntu live08:26
Seveasconcept10, ubuntu-provided apache2, php4, mysql, courier, freenx from backports08:26
Fabianpfp, I don't have a ubuntu CD08:27
devianthello08:27
bartekptransgress: +X is better imho08:27
pfpFabian: i dont think grub should be a problem. have you set your BIOS to boot from CD?08:27
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Seveasconcept10, that is: only freenx from backports, the rest from ubuntu (please do not misread that line)08:27
deviantcan anyone help me install drivers for a radeon 9600 video card?08:27
Fabianpfp, yep I even chose it manually from the multi boot menu08:27
Seveasdeviant: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto08:27
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pfpFabian: strange... it still goes directly to grub?08:28
Fabianhi Seves, got a problem again! :D08:28
Fabianpfp, yep08:28
transgressbartekp: well i'm just trying to make the mp3's writeable because i had them backed up on a dvd...08:28
holycowyou know, the evolution integration with the calendar applet is nifty08:28
Seveastransgress, +x isn't writeable08:28
Seveas+w is08:28
Seveaspreferablu just u+w08:28
holycowhaving a quick appointment list dropdown with the applet is great08:28
transgressoh oops i meant +w08:28
Seveasfabbione, what's the problem?08:28
concept10Seveas, they changed the wiki?08:28
xiaogilThe French dictionary Le Petit Robert used to work on Debian with Wine, but it doesn't work anymore. Is someone interested that I send him the ISO of this dictionary to try to make it work ?08:29
Seveasconcept10, yes08:29
concept10looks nice08:29
transgressfor some reason typed +x... what does adding the u+w do to it?08:29
FabianSeveas, can't boot knoppix.....08:29
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pfpFabian: hmm, i would try with another cd if you have a fast connection etc08:29
Seveastransgress, that makes it writable only for the owner08:29
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SeveasFabian, check out your bios08:29
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Fabianpfp, got DSL08:29
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Seveasmake sure it boots from CD first08:29
FabianSeveas, it is set correctly....08:29
Seveasand make sure your knoppix cd is bootable08:29
transgressSeveas: ah thanks muches08:29
pfpFabian: 650MB shouldn't be a problem then?08:30
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FabianSeveas, it is bootable, tried on another PC08:30
SeveasFabian, then it's not correct in the bios :)08:30
Fabianpfp, ehm... takes a littel while.... but where to get`?08:30
Seveasor your cd drive is broken :)08:30
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FabianSeveas, it is correct, my XP CD is booting! :D08:30
Seveasghe08:30
FabianSeveas, it is VERY strange :D08:30
dr_willissounds like a badly burnt cd.08:31
Seveasindeed :)08:31
pfp:O08:31
dr_willisbut thats odd...08:31
Seveasand indeed to dr_willis too08:31
gahanhow do i allow shutdown/reboot from gnome session ?08:31
Fabiandr_willis, no, it boots on another PC08:31
Fabian:D08:31
dr_willisdust :P08:31
dr_willisthumbprints?08:31
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dr_willishit it with a hammer..08:31
Seveaslol08:31
bartekp(;08:31
Fabiandr_willis, no, it boots exactly the way it is now! and I've just cleaned it08:31
rgouldHow do I get Nautilus to display the directory tree on the left while I browse?08:32
Seveasrgould, check nautilus' options08:32
dr_willisFabian,  thats it - you cleaned off all the bits!08:32
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[v2hja] hello08:32
rgouldSeveas, I have checked them all, several times08:32
mjrrgould, browse mode is the thing you want08:32
dr_willisrgould,  Nautilus has 2  styles. :P ones a nice simple one. the other - can show that.. heh.08:32
Seveasrgould, sorry08:32
pfpFabian: it could even be that your brand of media isn't compatible w/ your drive... (and the XP cd is factory-made of course ;)08:32
toranwhere should I go to add a new network device in kubuntu?08:32
Seveasrgould, in the nautilus menu: view -> side pane08:32
Seveastoran, #kubuntu :)08:33
rgouldSeveas, yeah, that option is missing =\08:33
Fabianpfp, Seveas, where do I get a live CD I can burn with windows? is that possible?08:33
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Seveasrgould, then you might need to enable broeser mode08:33
[v2hja] Seveas08:33
Seveasbrowser*08:33
Beunocdrecord doesnt record DVDs??? anyone know how I can burn DVDs from console?08:33
pfpFabian: you can burn any cd w/ proper software, eg. nero08:33
Seveasand that is in the options, under behaviour "always open in browser windows"08:33
Fabianpfp, my Laptop is only half a year old, and the other PC about 4! can't be the CD.....08:33
dr_willisrgould,  right click on a folder and select 'browse'08:33
toranSeveas: they don't answer questions in there v_v08:33
Seveastoran, hmm :)08:34
randabisyes they do08:34
Beunofabbione: growisofs is for console?08:34
rgouldawesome!08:34
rgouldthanks guys08:34
Seveastoran, just edit /etc/interfaces08:34
fabbioneBeuno: yes08:34
Seveascopy the eth0 lines and in the new lines change eth0 to eth108:34
randabisthere just isn't always people available to help in kubuntu08:34
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Seveas(if both are wired of course)08:34
[v2hja] could someone troubleshoot me ?08:34
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sam2so seveas says /usr/local and HiddenWolf says /opt08:34
Beunofabbione:   thank you very much!!  gonno give it a try!   Any chance its on apt-get?08:34
Seveassam2, the standard is /usr/local08:34
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Seveasbut /opt is widely used on systems that adhere les to the standard08:35
fabbioneBeuno: it's part of the default install.. it should already be there08:35
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Fabianpfp, where to get a system? Is knoppix downloadable as iso file?08:35
pfpFabian: there's http://www.knoppix-std.org/download.html and http://mirror.switch.ch/ftp/mirror/ubuntu-cdimage/5.04/08:35
Seveasbut un #ubuntu you really should use /usr/local08:35
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sam2Seveas, all right, thats what i was wondering, thanks08:35
Beunofabbione: -bash: growisofs: command not found08:35
delireSeveas: always wondered about this. installing rpm's on a debian systems sometimes results in this dir being created.08:35
delires/a//08:35
Seveas[v2hja] , what's the problem?08:35
[v2hja] ati :D08:36
Seveasdelire, that's since rpms suck :)08:36
Razor-XSeveas: have you read my draft?08:36
Seveas[v2hja] , ouch08:36
SmokingFireHi, I read once somewhere/someplace that if you have a modern AMD Athlon CPU it's better to use the Intel optimized kernel then the AMD optimized kernel as the AMD optimized kernel doesn take into account that the athlon has SSE unit.08:36
delireSeveas: it would appear they do, yes.08:36
[v2hja] did like the wiki said08:36
[v2hja] nothing08:36
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SeveasRazor-X, no not yet, been to busy today comparing D-BUS, DCOP and Toolbus for a paper i write08:36
[v2hja] ati CP is installed08:36
SmokingFirebrb08:36
fabbioneBeuno: apt-get install dvd+rw-tools08:36
[v2hja] but thw wrong GL vendor08:36
Razor-XSmokingFire: doubt it, but ask around08:36
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Razor-XSeveas: heh, ok08:36
[v2hja] *but there is wrong GL wendor08:36
TokenBadcan someone tell me why mplayer might not be working and crashing?08:37
Seveas[v2hja] , ati is a beast unfortunately :(08:37
Razor-XI'm a gonna look for a gooad "Learn TCP/IP in 24 hours" thing08:37
Razor-X*good08:37
Seveas[v2hja] , i can give you my xorg.conf, it works wit ati drivers08:37
chrissturmv2hja: do you use the fglrx driver from the ubuntu repo?08:37
Beunofabbione: dling, thanks, youve been very helpfull08:37
Fabianpfp, takes a loooooong time... hehe08:37
[v2hja] Seveas but it is possible to sterilize that beast08:37
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gges/24 hours/3 seconds/08:37
[v2hja] Seveas08:37
[v2hja] vait08:37
[v2hja] reboot08:37
Seveas[v2hja] , http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/7608:38
TokenBador recomend another player that will do wmv?08:38
delire[v2hja] : this is what i do. download the rpm, convert it to a debian package with alien; install it with dpkg; cd /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod && sh make.sh; exit X; cd /lib/modules/fglrx && sh make_install.sh; restart X; done08:38
Seveasdelire, ouch08:38
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Seveasyou should not do that...08:38
fabbioneBeuno: welcome08:38
pfpFabian: oh, there'a smaller cd that might be enough http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/08:38
Fabianpfp, I'll get the DVD too tomorrow at uni.... is a bit faster than here08:38
delireSeveas: bah, it's not so bad08:38
Beunofabbione: any idea if theres a frontend for webmin for this?08:39
Seveasdelire, and that will not solve the configuration problem at all08:39
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delireSeveas: it's worked since ati started shipping drivers.08:39
Seveasdelire, things changed since then...08:39
delireoh, and edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to include 'radeon'08:39
delireSeveas: not here, just installed the feb 5 driver today08:39
Fabianpfp, isn't this just a install CD?08:39
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delireSeveas: what "configuration problems"?08:40
Seveasdelire, can you send my your xorg.conf for comparison please08:40
sam2Does ubuntu not come with an "acceptable C compiler" ?08:40
Seveass/my/me/08:40
Seveassam2, of course it does :)08:40
pfpFabian: it should have fdisk / sfdisk, you shouldn't need anything else for the partition stuff08:40
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Seveassam2, sudo aptitude install build-essential08:40
Razor-Xsam2: gcc, of course ;)08:40
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delireSeveas: on my laptop here, also with the same driver though debian. will upload my XF86Config-408:40
Seveasthnx08:41
pfpFabian: ... if you're still going to do that :)08:41
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Fabianpfp, sure! :D can restore it anytime08:41
delireSeveas: anyway, one should *always* generate the config using fglrxconfig08:41
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Tibozhello08:41
Fabianpfp, ah.... it does not support usb-sticks. And it has to!!!!08:41
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Seveasdelire, that has so far only created non-working things for me08:41
Tibozanyone knows when breezy will bu usable ?08:41
delireSeveas: modelines and clonemode, fb etc.08:41
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pfpFabian: a little adventure, good ;)08:41
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Seveascouldn't start X with a single one of them08:42
pfpFabian: ah, damn08:42
delireSeveas: just backup your original and diff it if you run into any major issues. not much can go wrong.08:42
Fabianpfp, I'm gonna download the ubuntu live cd for the sake of usb support08:42
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pfpFabian: cool08:42
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delireSeveas: http://selectparks.net/julian/XF86Config-408:42
[v2hja] Seveas,08:43
[v2hja] http://rafb.net/paste/results/owT23z41.html08:43
dabIIany idea when the famous firefox 1.0.2 -> 1.0.4 patch is coming?08:43
[v2hja] my cfg08:43
Fabianpfp, maybe I'll get the DVD install/live tomorrow.... but... If i have my LSF System, I'll be useless.... mmmhhh08:43
delire[v2hja] : see  http://selectparks.net/julian/XF86Config-4 for a working config.08:43
Razor-XdabII: because of the security updates, Firefox 1.0.2 in the repos == 1.0.408:43
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randabisRazor-X: partially correct08:43
[v2hja] delire,08:43
randabis1.0.4 has more than security updates08:43
Kyynaracould someone tell me why this is happening? http://pastebin.com/30001408:43
Razor-Xrandabis: they changed that?08:43
delire[v2hja] : consider backing up your config and using fglrxconfig to generate a ati customised config for you. rename it to xorg.conf (from XF86Config-4).08:44
[v2hja] but i am using x org08:44
Razor-X1.0.4: well, ok then, glad i'm not a firefox user ;)08:44
delire[v2hja] : doesn't matter, there is next to no difference between them.08:44
pfpFabian: hmm, are you using LFS now or just planning to install it?08:44
randabisRazor-X: no, you're right about the patches, but firefox 1.0.4 contains more than security updates08:44
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Razor-XI understand, randabis08:44
Seveasdelire, do you have opengl transparency working?08:44
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Fabianpfp, planing. haven't done yet. Thats why I need to do that partitioning stuff....08:44
randabisthe real 1.0.4 is available from ubuntu backports08:44
sam2what is this aptitude thing?08:45
sam2some graphical version of apt-get?08:45
sam2or "graphical" as in text-mode menus08:45
pfpFabian: ah, ok08:45
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dabIIwell.. any way to cheat the mozilla version test to access addons?08:45
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Razor-Xsam2: better package manager08:45
Seveasrandabis, the ubuntu supplied one is also 1.0.408:45
randabisdabII: yes; you edit about:config08:45
[v2hja] Delgul,08:45
[v2hja] delire,08:45
dabIIrandabis08:45
delireSeveas: in windows? no, don't use it. i use a ratpoison like wm08:45
randabisSeveas: not entirely08:45
dabIIrandabis: eh lol wont help08:45
Seveaswithout the new bugs introduces :)08:45
[v2hja] i can see lotsa diferences08:45
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delire[v2hja] : that's because mine is generated using ati's 'fglrxconfig08:46
Fabianpfp, If i burn that iso file, it will burn bit by bit, even if the programm can't read the files?08:46
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Seveasdelire, i have fglrx working perfectly except for opengl transparency08:46
dabIIrandabis: i tried changing comment to Ubuntu package 1.0.4~5.04ubp1+1.0.208:46
Seveasand supertux needs that :)08:46
Fabianpfp, remember, I'm burning in Windows!08:46
delireSeveas: ahah, composite mode?08:46
Seveasyes...08:46
Kyynaracould someone tell me why this is happening? http://pastebin.com/30001408:46
Thorrn4hello!! I just put in a DATA CD in my dvd/cd drive...how can I read it, to take the files off?08:46
[v2hja]     Option "XkbRules""xfree86"08:46
yourghetekwhats that command to find somebody in irc?08:46
[v2hja] and there us mire08:46
delireSeveas: right, no idea. see no need to use it so haven't bothered. i have no desktop per se.08:46
[v2hja] more08:46
randabisdabII: I edited a line that said 1.0 to 1.0.4 and it worked08:46
Seveas:)08:46
Seveas[v2hja] , you should NOT use delires config08:47
dabIIrandabis: name?08:47
pfpFabian: umm, yes, it should. as long as you burn it as an _image_ (nero has this feature) and not as a file...08:47
delire[v2hja] : that's all put in there with fglrxconfig.08:47
Seveasthat one is made for debian/XFree08:47
randabisdabII: I'll have to look08:47
Seveasubuntu uses Xorg08:47
dabIIrandabis: please..08:47
[v2hja] i tought so08:47
Seveasbut so take the good things from it :)08:47
SeveasdabII, run apt-get update08:47
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Seveasheh and don't use marillat08:47
pfpFabian: and i think the cd is in iso9660 (-compatible) format anyway so you should be able to see it's contents in windows too08:48
Seveasmarillat's server is buggy now08:48
delireSeveas [v2hja] : there is little difference. when fglrxconfig generated an almost identical config on my xorg box, i just renamed it to xorg.conf and it worked perfectly.08:48
[v2hja] http://rafb.net/paste/results/owT23z41.html Seveas  ------- this is mine ......... i have no idea what to take from delire 's conf ... could someone mix something up08:48
delireup to you08:48
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Fabianpfp, I can't see knoppix though in Windows!08:48
Thorrn4hello!! I just put in a DATA CD in my dvd/cd drive...how can I read it, to take the files off?08:48
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delireno harm in trying. just roll back to your old one if it's b0rks08:48
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SeveasThorrn4, go to places->computer08:48
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[v2hja] but08:48
Seveasand open the drive there...08:48
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KyynaraSeveas: so that's the only reason, marillat is buggy?08:48
[v2hja] my modelines08:49
SeveasKyynara, his server is buggy now08:49
deviantSeveas: ok. i`ve installed the ati drivers, but now i can`t change my screen resolution :(08:49
Kyynaraok08:49
Seveasthat'll be solved...08:49
pfpFabian: and there are lots of files, visible on the knoppix cd?08:49
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randabisdabII: general.useragent.vendorSub08:49
dabIIrandabis: oh.. found it.. :) thnx...08:49
KyynaraSeveas: but can it do any harm that I have them in my sources.list08:49
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karamazofhi to all08:49
dabIIrandabis: yeah08:49
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Kyynaraor should I disable them08:49
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[v2hja] delire,  ...... cant i just take something from your cfg .... or better ..... could you please remake my cfg ^^08:50
delire[v2hja] : sure upload it and i'll edit it08:50
Kyynarathen to my other problem, how do I install opengl?08:50
delire[v2hja] : first, what's the problem?08:50
yourghetek!seen08:50
[v2hja] http://rafb.net/paste/results/owT23z41.html08:50
Fabianpfp, I can't read knoppix under windows08:50
yourghetek!seen kassetra08:51
ubotukassetra <~kassetra@c-67-171-201-213.hsd1.or.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 1d 13h 14m 24s ago, saying: 'ds installs just fine, and both are runnign.'.08:51
[v2hja] NO HW 3D08:51
pfpFabian: oh, missed the n't, heh08:51
[v2hja] glxgears 36108:51
[v2hja] 9800pro08:51
delire[v2hja] : lsmod | grep fglrx08:51
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Fabianpfp, never mind! :D08:51
[v2hja] what does that do ?08:51
pfp:)08:52
mcquaidthe server i'm behind went down, and i was trying to get back access to the network08:52
randabis!seen lochnessmonster08:52
uboturandabis: i haven't seen 'lochnessmonster'08:52
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randabisme either08:52
delire[v2hja] : looks to see if the fglrx module is loaded08:52
randabishe's a myth08:52
mcquaidwhat script would i've have needed to run to reconnect to the network?08:52
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[v2hja] fglrx                 229568  008:52
Thorrn4hello!! I just put in a DATA CD in my dvd/cd drive...how can I read it, to take the files off?08:52
mcquaidin my other distro i used to use pump08:52
slashzulhow do you reset the xserver?08:52
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mcquaidjust to avoid having to reboot in the future08:52
[v2hja] delire, ........ can we go private ?08:52
deliremcquaid: /etc/init.d/networking restart or ifup eth(something)08:52
slashzulhow do you reconfigure the xserver08:53
mcquaidah08:53
delire[v2hja] : sure.08:53
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p|someone have a kvirc 3.2xx .deb for ubuntu/kubuntu ?08:53
mcquaidi tried networking start but not restart08:53
slashzulxserver worked till I changed video cards - aaaaaaaaaaaah08:53
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slashzulhelp08:53
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gamemastax`You're all hot ^^08:53
FabianThorn4, try as root: /mnt/cd_rom /dev/media/cd_rom           but I'm not 100% sure......08:53
chrissturmslashzul: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:54
ChrisCFGot that backtrace from fsck08:54
ChrisCFhttp://www.xpns.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Backtrace08:54
randabis!seen root08:54
uboturoot <~Kevin@CPE0006255ab096-CM400049887786.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 6d 21h 55m 9s ago, saying: 'am I hacked?'.08:54
pfplol08:54
yourghetek!seen a big monkey08:54
ubotui haven't seen 'a big monkey', yourghetek08:54
karamazofQ: I have configured iptables and my adsl router to accept incomming and outgoing events on port 4662, but amule still can't acces my 4662 port... has anyone got an idea?08:54
ChrisCFthough it's pretty short, and I might end up rebuilding e2fsck anyway08:54
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gamemastax`Alright, I got a question... I need to get my wireless--and my touchpad--working in ubuntu... I have a compaq presario r3000 and am pretty much a linux noob... can anyone help me?08:55
karamazofmy router is a 510 speedtouch08:55
ChrisCF(it's a version that I've built myself, because the one in hoary is too old to fsck my HD)08:55
delire[v2hja] : lsmod == "list modules"08:55
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pfpkaramazof: could you paste the output from 'iptables -vn -L' to http://pastebin.com08:55
chrissturmkaramazof: do you forward the port on your router?08:55
Mac38DoHi! Does anybody know, what the root-password of the live-cd ist?08:55
Wings!seen anakedlady08:55
ubotuWings: i haven't seen 'anakedlady'08:55
Wings:O08:55
gamemastax`!seen gamemastax08:55
ubotui haven't seen 'gamemastax', gamemastax`08:55
delire[v2hja] : or i should say "list loaded modules"08:56
karamazofno problem pfp08:56
delire[v2hja] : ok.. cool08:56
gamemastax`!seen gamemastax`08:56
ubotugamemastax` is currently on #ubuntu (2m 28s)08:56
ChrisCFMac38Do: It isn't.08:56
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gamemastax`Anyway, can anyone help me? ^^08:56
ChrisCFYou use sudo or use the menu to open a root terminal08:56
karamazofer no I can't!08:57
gamemastax`o.O08:57
pfpkaramazof: what's the problem08:57
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abelliciao everybody08:57
gamemastax` ciao08:57
karamazofWarning: mysql_pconnect(): Link to server lost, unable to reconnect in /home/pastebin/lib/pastebin/db.mysql.class.php on line 4208:57
karamazofUnable to connect to database08:57
gamemastax`LOL08:58
ChrisCFTry pastebin.ca08:58
pfpoh dear, we've broken the pastebin :(08:58
ChrisCF(I think)08:58
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gamemastax`They're having database problems, use another pastebin08:58
KyynaraHow do I install OpenGL on ubuntu?08:58
pfpkaramazof: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ also08:58
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jfk303whats a nice app for audio editing? (cutting up mp3's and stuff, don't need anything too fancy)...08:59
karamazofhttp://pastebin.ca/1466408:59
karamazofchrissturm: I think so,08:59
randabisjfk303: audacity08:59
ChrisCFOK, so to recap for those that missed the first half, e2fsck is segfaulting checking a HD.  The HD has been in two different machines, and it segfaulted in both cases ruling out memory.08:59
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ChrisCFNo messages in messages or dmesg, backtrace here: http://www.xpns.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Backtrace09:00
pfpkaramazof: is 10.0.0.1 IP address of your machine?09:00
karamazofyep09:00
Seveasokay i messed up :)09:00
Seveascan someone send me a default /etc/modules please :)09:00
ChrisCFSeveas: Can you not do a modprobe and use the output from lsmod to get started?09:00
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SeveasChrisCF, not needed09:00
Fabianhas anyone got experience wicht partition magic by any chance?09:00
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Seveasi just need the default /etc/modules09:01
Seveasi know what I added to that09:01
ChrisCFLive CD?09:01
Seveasbut the file got erased :)09:01
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SeveasChrisCF, can't you paste your /etc/modules on paste.ubuntulinux.nl?09:01
ChrisCFMmm.  "Oops."09:01
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ChrisCFWell, it depends on whether the "default" as installed is modified09:01
Seveasyeah, an > instead of an >>09:01
ChrisCF(depending on the hardware)09:01
pfpkaramazof: hmm, you are behind NAT, either from your (ADSL?) router or your internet service provider09:01
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SeveasChrisCF, please paste yours :)09:02
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Seveasi almost completely remember what was in it, but need some assurance09:02
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Mac38Dothx, ChrisCF!09:02
ChrisCFnp Mac38Do09:03
karamazofchrissturm: I have pasted my nat list to http://pastebin.ca/1466809:03
pfpSeveas: loop psmouse mousedev ide-cd ide-disk ide-generic lp are on top of my /etc/modules09:03
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Seveasthank you09:03
ChrisCFGrr.  I had just loaded that pastebin too ...09:03
karamazofyes, but I think I have correctly set up the NAT : http://pastebin.ca/1466809:04
ChrisCFthough I'm worried when dpkg can't tell me which package owns /etc/modules ...09:04
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SeveasChrisCF, it's part of debootstrap...09:04
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Seveasso it won't really get listed09:04
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ChrisCFSo that would explain why you can't "reinstall" the file09:04
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Seveasindeed :)09:04
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ChrisCFSeveas: Seen my backtrace?09:05
abellii've got a problem with an hp pavilion 6069 ... amd 64, ati xpress 200 ..09:05
abellii cant log in (gnome and kde) ..09:06
SeveasChrisCF, no, was preoccupied with my own problem ;)09:06
abellithe system freezes..09:06
deviantcan some one help me with wine pls ?09:06
Fabianneed to reboot09:06
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karamazofpfp: before installing any form of firewall, It worked fine, and with the same router config, emule works fine under XP...09:06
Seveasopeing page now :)09:06
pfpkaramazof: hmm, the nat looks ok, altough i don't know what brand the rtr is so can't be sure09:07
ChrisCFI'm going through the gcc manpage to see if I can rebuild it with some useful information09:07
SeveasChrisCF, run fsck.ext2 under strace09:07
Seveasand see what that does just before segfaulting09:07
Beunotrying to burn with growisfs now09:07
karamazofrtr? my router? (sorry I'm french) it is a thompson speed touch 510 1 port09:07
BeunoIm doing this: growisofs -Z /dev/hdc -R -J /var/www/backups/09:08
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Beunoand its telling me I dont have any space09:08
Beunodo I have to do anything before that?09:08
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pfpkaramazof: yeah, router.. i'm not familiar with that model though :/09:08
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Fabiani forgot: i can't reboot! :D09:08
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BeunoIm reading some places I have to "blank" the DVDR, any ideas?09:09
pfpkaramazof: have you tried connecting to your machine from 'outside' eg. with telnet yourpublicip 466209:09
karamazofpfp: but don't you find it strange that it workes under XP?09:09
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ubuntu_hello09:10
chrissturmanyone here using zsh?09:10
karamazofI haven' set up a telnet service, but if it can help you, I could do so09:10
ubuntu_xoll09:10
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Fabianhello ubuntu_09:10
ChrisCFSeveas: will the fact that I've just compiled in debug info help? :)09:10
jfk303Is  there a browseable  directory of what software can be apt-get'ed, with maybe a link to the server the app is held on?09:10
pfpkaramazof: yes, i do... hmm, maybe your xp / *mule under xp is using that upnp thing?09:10
ubuntu_i like this09:10
ChrisCFjfk303: packages.ubuntu... something or other09:10
karamazofyes, it is!09:10
wizzardhi, I would like to know how to save the contents of OpenGL screen (like screensavers). any ideas?09:10
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ChrisCFpackages.ubuntu.com09:11
pfpkaramazof: also, your iptables is broken :), it accepts everything09:11
ubuntu_yuppp09:11
karamazofmy machine is visible at: karamazof56.no-ip.org09:11
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karamazofyes, I broke it,09:11
pfpkaramazof: no, i meant telnetting to your emule (port 4662)09:11
davixI need help, my linux just lost any connection with the internet. pls help.09:11
Fabiandavix, why are you here then? :D09:12
pfpkaramazof: please, use the highlight (pfp:) :)09:12
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karamazofpfp: sorry09:12
davixFabian, i've got two pcs :)09:12
kazhow do I install support for flash?09:12
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davixFabian, can you supply any proffesional help or are you just joing with me?09:13
pfpkaramazof: i can connect to your 4662 port, no problem09:13
Razor-Xdavix: i'm assuming you've restarted thec computer? (sorry, too mcuh experience with Windows users)09:13
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jfk303davix, I sometimes restart the connection in Syste>administartion>networking?09:13
bionicwhats a good graphical cd,audio,dvd,image burner?09:14
deviantcan some one help me with wine pls ?09:14
davixRazor-X, nope, i'm not that of a noob.09:14
Fabiandavix, I'm no pro.... what did you do to your connection? any changes to undo?09:14
ChrisCFstrace: exec: Permission denied09:14
ChrisCFexecve("./e2fsck", ["./e2fsck", "-y", "/dev/hdd5"] , [/* 33 vars */] ) = 009:14
ChrisCFchris@delyth:~/Desktop/e2fsprogs-1.37/build $09:14
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Seveasdeviant, i'll help you drink it :)09:14
ChrisCFNice.09:14
karamazofpfp: strange, does anything reply?09:14
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pfpkaramazof: so, your *mule shouldn't be complaining at all..09:14
sam2gcc aint in ubuntu by default is it?09:14
HiddenWolfdeviant, depends on what you need, there is no nero like king of the hill09:14
davixFabian, i've apt-get removed firestarter and /etc/init.d/firestarter stop09:14
SeveasChrisCF, running it is root might help...09:14
pepsican the resolution of the terminal (no X) be changed on startup? its like 640x480 or 800x600 or something.. im on a laptop and it looks weird to have a terminal in the middle of my screen09:14
davixeventuall i also iptables-restoore09:14
ChrisCFOne of the problems with advocating sudo over su is that in most cases sudo won't atually work09:14
deviantSeveas: :) . no, really now. i`m tring to install a game (baldur`s gate) and i get all sorts of errors :(09:14
pfpkaramazof: yes, http://pastebin.ca/1467309:15
Seveaspepsi, it can09:15
davixFabian, ideas?09:15
hypn0_wouldnt it be better to have main, universe, restricted in package names, and slap them all in one directory, easier to navigate and find dtuff like that, rather than going back and forwards09:15
ChrisCFAh.  Might help if I tried cd e2fsck first ...09:15
karamazofpfp: that's why I'm stuck! I just can't understand what's worrying it!09:15
deviantSeveas: pepsi is yach. coke is tha shit :P09:15
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Seveaspepsi, if you want 1024x768 add vga=773 to the #kopt line in menu.lst and run update-grub09:15
pepsiSeveas, how can i do that? i want it to be 1024x76809:15
Seveasdeviant, indeed :)09:16
Beunotrying to burn a DVD-R with growisfs09:16
ChrisCF(haven't run make install yet - to avoid breaking the e2fsck that's already there)09:16
Beunoand its telling me I dont have any space09:16
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randabis!seen sudo09:16
ubotui haven't seen 'sudo', randabis09:16
BeunoIm reading some places I have to "blank" the DVDR,any ideas?09:16
Beunoany ideas?09:16
Fabiandavix, what about abt-get installing firestarter again? what is firestarter anyway?09:16
pfpkaramazof: maybe your ISP blocks port 4662... but then again, it works in windoze09:16
deviantHiddenWolf: so ...anny sugestions ?09:16
davixerm. Fabian, one sec09:16
SeveasBeuno, growisofs is to create an iso file09:16
davixi think i got it by Myself09:16
davix:)09:16
Seveaswhich you can later burn09:16
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davixyep09:16
davixbrb from pc09:17
philipacamaniacWhere can I file bug reports related to the new wiki?09:17
Seveasphilipacamaniac, in #ubuntu-doc09:17
philipacamaniacthanks09:17
Fabiandavix, maybe sometimes packages uninstall other packages too, on which again other packages rely on.....09:17
BeunoSeveas;  Executing 'mkisofs -R -J /var/www/backups/ | builtin_dd of=/dev/cdrom obs=32k seek=0'09:17
randabis!seen a simpler, more childish interface than gnome09:17
uboturandabis: i haven't seen 'a simpler, more childish interface than gnome'09:17
randabislol09:17
Beuno:-( /dev/cdrom: 2295104 blocks are free, 4444536 to be written09:17
SeveasBeuno, i stand corrected, sorry09:17
Beunonp09:18
ChrisCFrandabis: I think I know why09:18
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ChrisCF!seen kde09:18
ubotui haven't seen 'kde', ChrisCF09:18
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BeunoI doing this:  growisofs -Z /dev/hdc -R -J /var/www/backups/09:18
randabislol09:18
karamazofpfp: I'll try analysing what's going on with ethereal09:18
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pfpkaramazof: cool!09:18
karamazofpfp: maby I'll ges some clues09:18
Seveas!seen ChrisCF's brain09:18
ubotui haven't seen 'chriscf's brain', Seveas09:18
karamazofpfp: you think it could help?09:18
pepsiSeveas, thanks, ima see how that goes09:18
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Razor-Xrandabis: I like KDE a lot, thank you09:18
davixok09:19
alemaoHow can i make upgrade of Mozilla-firefox .. here version 1.0.2 .. and exist 1.0.4 but cant via ubuntu09:19
davixdone, now how can i fix inbound connections?09:19
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Seveasalemao, the version of ubunutu is actually 1.0.4 in disguise09:19
pfpkaramazof: at least it's fun and interesting (even without sarcasm :P)09:19
roodayudame!!!! I am hating gdm and xorg09:19
randabisRazor-X: as do I. using it as we speak09:19
Seveasalemao, it contains all 1.0.4 security patches09:19
senraAfter a long time with Mdk, I finally switched to Ubuntu. I'm *really* impressed. Congratz to Ubuntu community.09:19
Razor-Xalemao: add in backports to your sources.list09:19
ChrisCFSeveas: Of course not.  Ubotu can't see inside my head (yet)09:19
Razor-Xrandabis: good then ;)09:19
Seveas:)09:19
delire[v2hja]  man we're nearly there to getting hw GL on your box. write back or i'm out.09:19
Razor-X!seen Einstein09:19
randabisSeveas: unless I'm mistaken it only includes 1.0.4's security updates, not everything else09:19
ubotui haven't seen 'einstein', Razor-X09:19
[v2hja] i am here09:19
Fabiandavix, working?09:20
[v2hja] i am here09:20
ChrisCFHow long before an up-to-date e2fsprogs goes in?09:20
delire[v2hja]  cool09:20
davixFabian/ Razor-X . do you have any ideas on what can block incoming comunications? (web,sshd,etc?)09:20
davixyes09:20
[v2hja] but why not in private ?09:20
alemaoRazor-X, backport09:20
ianneuball: is this the place to ask Q's about Ubuntu for PPC?09:20
Seveasrandabis, correct.09:20
davixoutbound09:20
Razor-X!seen Mark Shuttleworth09:20
ubotuRazor-X: i haven't seen 'mark shuttleworth'09:20
Seveasnew featurs include new bugs09:20
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karamazofpfp: yes it's quite a fun toy!09:20
randabisSeveas: then it isn't completely 1.0.409:20
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ChrisCFThe version that's in hoary is a year old, and there's been two releases since09:20
Fabiandavix, did you cut the cable? :D09:20
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delire[v2hja]  you weren't answering me. maybe your flood set me to auto-ignore on your nick09:20
Razor-Xdavix: why not try killing your daemons one by one?09:20
Seveasplease stop abusing the bot09:20
karamazofpfp: will you stay around?09:20
davixnope, lol restart :)09:20
HiddenWolfChrisCF, hoary will only get security updates09:20
HiddenWolfChrisCF, new stuff goes to breezy09:20
alemaowhen I make apt-get install mozilla-firefox .. show 1.0.2 .. and uptodate09:20
randabisthe bot is a masochist09:20
ChrisCFAlso, the current version of e2fsprogs is actually too old for my HD09:21
[v2hja] 22:15 [v2hja]  done09:21
davixRazor-X, what daemon can block udp? i dont have nessus nor firestarter.09:21
Razor-Xalemao: add backports to your sources.list09:21
Seveasalemao, the real 1.0.4 can be downloaded from backports09:21
ChrisCFhad to actually download and compile a new version just to fsck it09:21
randabisyeah09:21
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delire[v2hja]  ok, now we need to create a symlinks that the stupid package installation process failed to create09:21
[v2hja] k09:21
Razor-Xdavix: do you have any router/firewall box on the network?09:21
[v2hja] how ?09:21
alemaowhat is the meaning <backports> ?09:21
randabiseasy breezy beautiful covergirl09:21
roodanyone here have a macintosh?09:21
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linux_geekalemao: download firefox-1.0.4 from mozill site and install straight away its distro independent09:21
davixRazor-X, hardware router, routing all incoming to this box.09:22
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pfpkaramazof: yea, at least a few hours09:22
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ChrisCFHiddenWolf: Kind of sucks to know that I'll be stuck with old software for the next few months.09:22
Razor-Xalemao: read the Ubuntu guide, in the 'Add extra repositories' section, they have some entries in sources.list dealing with 'backports'09:22
delire[v2hja]  'ln -s /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2 /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2'09:22
deviantoh, common ...09:22
Razor-Xdavix: are you sure something didn't happen with the router?09:22
Fabianpfp, do you know partition magic?09:22
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alemaooh ok09:22
[v2hja] delire,09:22
[v2hja] root ?09:22
Razor-Xtry restarting your router (if you haven't)09:22
delire[v2hja]  'ln' == link and is used to create links or 'shortcutes'09:22
delire[v2hja]  yes09:22
[v2hja] done09:23
davixRazor-X, sure as hell, i routed it to another pc and it worked like a charm.09:23
Razor-Xif possible, see if the Linux machine is connecte to the router09:23
Razor-X*connected09:23
davixit's connected to a switch09:23
pfpFabian: i've used it once to make room for a linux installation... so not much09:23
ChrisCFI'm sure that all the output from strace is actualyl slowing down this fsck by at least an order of magnitude :/09:23
Razor-Xwow... large network ;)09:23
davixconnected to the router/modem09:23
roodsomeone, please help me configure x on my mac09:23
davixnot that large, 3 pcs09:23
delire[v2hja]  now 'ls -l /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2' to check if it worked. you should see a --> to the original file.09:23
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Razor-Xthen why use a switch?09:23
SeveasChrisCF, indeed :)09:23
davixi just like expirmenting09:23
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Razor-Xremove the switch, that's just plain impeding bandwidth09:23
davixrouter has one exit, it's an old alcatel home hacked into a pro software.09:23
deliredavix: good ;)09:23
[v2hja] lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 27 2005-06-15 22:22 /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 -> /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.209:23
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roodI can't get gdm to start, and when I run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg it fails in the same pace09:24
Razor-Xdavix: ahhh, I see09:24
roodsame place every time09:24
Beunotrying to burn a DVD-R with growisfs using:   growisofs -Z /dev/hdc -R -J /var/www/backups/   and Im getting:  :-( /dev/cdrom: 2295104 blocks are free, 4444536 to be written, any ideas?09:24
[v2hja] i guess its good ?09:24
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Razor-Xthen why is it a router?09:24
Fabianpfp, do you think, if I change something and it goes wrong, I could reinstate the partitions under linux with the original partition table?09:24
randabisChrisCF: old software: you have the option of using backports to get updates until breezy comes around09:24
Razor-Xif it just routes the connection to one box?09:24
delire[v2hja]  excellent, now 'ln -s /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 /usr/lib/libGL.so.1'09:24
roodI get framebuffer errors09:24
moparfan90can i install counter strike source on ubuntu with out buying cedega?09:24
ChrisCFIn certain other distributions that shall remain nameless, you go get to keep up-to-date09:25
alemaowhere I can find Ubuntu Guide09:25
roodI get V_Bios err09:25
[v2hja] done09:25
Razor-Xalemao: google is your friend09:25
ChrisCFwhich means you don't get problems like fsck failing because your filesystem is too new09:25
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Razor-Xmoparfan90: not sure if there's a Linux version09:25
pfpFabian: partmagic ha a habit of moving actual data, too.. so there's a chance it won't work (but caveat lector)09:25
[v2hja] delire,  done09:25
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pfphas*09:25
ChrisCFThese other distributions including a certain flavour of one beginning with "D"09:25
davixRazor-X, it routes the internet to my switch, and udp onto 10.0.0.209:26
davixi use it just because i dont want to let my sister catch viruss via p2p09:26
davixbut it's not the subject lol09:26
davixthis box wouldnt catch udp even if its connected straight to the wall09:26
ChrisCFRight - here's the segfault09:26
davixsomething is wrong here.09:26
delire[v2hja]  it must be exactly as i've written it.09:26
Razor-Xthe Distribution Distribution?09:26
transgresswould anyone know why i can't change my fonts in gnome?  i started out with kubuntu, and had that gtk to qt crap... but after i installed gnome... saw how bad it messed it up i removed it... and now i can't change my font09:26
ChrisCFNow to get all the info from it09:26
delire[v2hja]  ok a couple more.09:26
transgressdoes anyone have a tip as to how to fix this?09:26
Fabianpfp, caveat lector?09:26
davixit happend after some fw and nessus expiremnting. and i reall don want to reinstall just for this lol. it's not msxp.09:26
pfpFabian: reader beware :)09:26
pfpafaik09:26
[v2hja] i am with you09:26
Razor-Xdavix: that's a pretty convoluted setup..... does the router come with a DHCP server?09:26
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davixyes, but it's disabled.09:26
ChrisCFRazor-X: And then there's the "F" distribution09:27
Razor-Xdavix: enable it09:27
delire[v2hja]  now do you have a /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so ?09:27
davixwhy? it gives me trouble with dns.09:27
Razor-XChrisCF: you mean.... Fresh Distribution?! ;)09:27
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SeveasChrisCF, that's the same as the "F" wod :)09:27
ChrisCFnot to mention the "S" and "M" distributions09:27
Seveasword*09:27
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Razor-Xoooh! oooh09:27
ChrisCF(oops - not how that should have come out)09:27
hellraiser_robevening all09:27
moparfan90does anyone know if i can install counter strike source on linux? (theres no linux version)09:27
Razor-XSloppy, and Meaty!09:27
ChrisCF"Kinkix"09:27
davixRazor-X, it worked perfectly two days ago, i've just messed this box :(09:27
[v2hja] YES09:27
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Razor-Xdavix: then do a manual with DHCP09:27
transgressmoparfan90: you can... but you have to get cedega09:28
Razor-Xon the box, rather09:28
delire[v2hja]  use 'du -h' to find out it's file size09:28
Fabianpfp, goddamn, you look cool! How did you do that?09:28
davixerm.09:28
Razor-Xspecify the DNS servers, but try and get the config done using DTCP09:28
ChrisCFSeveas: How many screenfuls of syscalls do you want?09:28
moparfan90is that the only was09:28
moparfan90way09:28
SeveasChrisCF, only the last ones before it crashes :D09:28
Razor-Xor, copy the DNS servers, and add them to the router's DHCP server, much less maintenance on your part on future installs, and stuff09:28
ChrisCFYes.  How many?09:28
[v2hja] ZERO09:28
ChrisCFAs a hint, the last handful of lines will probably not be useful09:29
davixRazor-X, it's a software problem. at some time of boot, i can actually get a ping from the machine. just when it all loads up it blocks. regardless of dhcp or router conf.09:29
[v2hja] v2hja@ubuntu:~$ du -h /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so09:29
[v2hja] 0       /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so09:29
delire[v2hja]  use my nick so i can see you09:29
pfpFabian: *krhm* secret ;)09:29
SeveasChrisCF, you should have used tee ;)09:29
delire[v2hja]  (in a few channels here)09:29
[v2hja] delire, .... it is zero09:29
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delire[v2hja]  ok09:29
SeveasChrisCF, just make it a hudred09:29
delire[v2hja]  check the size of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.209:29
Razor-Xdavix: try recovery mode09:30
ChrisCFThat page updated09:30
davixwhat's recovery mode?09:30
[v2hja] delire, zero also09:30
Razor-Xthat way, during bootup, keep pinging it, to see the daemon that is causin the trouble09:30
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Razor-Xit's in the GRUB boot menu, hit Esc at startup, if i'm not mistaken09:30
unixscangreetings from Barcelona09:30
delire[v2hja]  ok now 'rm -f /usr/lib/libGL.so && ln -s /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2 /usr/lib/libGL.so'09:31
[v2hja] done09:31
[v2hja] i guess09:31
davixerm ok brb09:31
ChrisCFPerhaps I should have given e2fsck -q09:31
delire[v2hja]  try restarting X09:31
[v2hja] k09:31
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Efwisquick question, what is Getty?? I have 5 instances of it running but i don't even know what its for09:31
[v2hja] brb ^^09:31
syndthenuke: anyone have an idea as to making gdesklets transparent?09:31
syndoops09:31
ChrisCFsince all the things it had to output are mixed in nicely09:31
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ChrisCFEfwis: It's the thinngs running on your 6 consoles with nothing logged in09:32
SeveasEfwis, it's for your virtual terminals09:32
syndanyone have an idea as to making gdesklets transparent? *09:32
Efwisthank you09:32
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SuperQany kernel hackers around?  I'm getting kernel panics every other day on a box that was running fine prior to the last kernel security update09:32
_kevinhow to un-install or remove a file/program that you installed by compiling and doing ./configure make and make instakk09:32
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_kevininstall*09:32
Fabianpfp, you won't tell me?09:32
delireSuperQ: probably filesystem related. usually is. /dev/console in the output?09:33
SeveasSuperQ, make a good bugreport and file it on the bugzilla09:33
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[v2hja] dang09:33
[v2hja] 326 FPS09:33
[v2hja] delire,09:33
SuperQdelire: I dunno09:33
delire[v2hja] : hmm09:33
SuperQdelire: cpu 0: machine check exception: 7 bank 4 : b4002000ed080a1309:33
delire[v2hja] : could be better ;)09:33
SuperQKernel panic - not syncing : uncorrected machine check09:33
SuperQ(x86-64)09:33
SeveasSuperQ, ehm09:33
[v2hja] i is still the same09:33
SeveasSuperQ, run memtest!09:33
[v2hja] and opengl is mesa 3d09:33
delireSuperQ fsck knows ;)09:33
SuperQSeveas: shit09:33
pfpFabian: heh, i thought you were joking, sorry :) type '/me does stuff'09:34
SuperQSeveas: it's ECC ram09:34
SuperQthis shouldn't be happening09:34
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[v2hja] delire, ----- no change09:34
delire[v2hja] : well, all i can suggest is doing it all the way i did it. that was my attempt to fix the broken and/or uncreated symlinks using the xorg-fglrx ubuntu package install.09:34
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ChrisCFSeveas: Have a gander at the updated "backtrace" page, and I'll get something to drink09:35
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delire[v2hja] : this would mean purging the xorg-fglrx package then downloading the driver rpm package from the ati.com site and compiling the module yourself.09:35
SeveasChrisCF, than you'll have to give me the url again :)09:35
chris____hi room.  i eventually got ubuntu installed on this pc.  now...  how can I configure grub to default to booting ubuntu quickly?09:35
SuperQSeveas: still think I should file a bug report?09:35
ChrisCFSeveas: http://www.xpns.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Backtrace09:35
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[v2hja] delire, ...... ssh ?09:36
Fabianpfp, I know! I WAS joking, because you said, you're trying hard, to look cool, I thought, I'd admire you a bit09:36
delire[v2hja] : i do it the "ati way" yet people around here recommend otherwise for some reason, don't know why.09:36
Fabian;)09:36
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delire[v2hja] : sure but you better be quick09:36
delire[v2hja] : msg me details09:36
[v2hja] but i have messed with that xorg.cfg thingie09:37
delire[v2hja] : your xorg.conf is fine09:37
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melrosemrmHEY Sevas, I dowloaded a driver that is supposed to be for my wireless card but for Red Hat, would it work with Ubuntu?09:38
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gge:(09:38
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ChrisCF):)09:38
ChrisCF(ambivalent)09:38
gge\ _ /09:38
chris____anyone?  how do I configure grub?09:39
pfpFabian: heh, thanks ;) don't overdo it, otherwise his bloated ego ends up using /me constantly09:39
HappyFoolchris____: look at /boot/grub/menu.lst09:39
chris____HappyFool: thanks.  is there a gui interface that edits that file?09:39
HappyFoolchris____: i don't know. what do you want to do?09:39
chris____HappyFool: also, after editing it, do I need to run anything, like running lilo after editing lilo.conf?09:40
linux_geekchris____: read menu.lst file its simple to edit09:40
melrosemrmHey Sevas you there? Does anyone know if a wireless card driver for redhat would work with Ubuntu?09:40
HappyFoolchris____: no, nothing to run like lilo09:40
linux_geekno chris____09:40
chris____HappyFool: I want to set it up so that it doesn't show a menu unless the user hits a key09:40
HappyFoolchris____: try 'info grub' for documentation09:40
chris____HappyFool: I tried 'info grub' but it shows the same as 'man grub'.09:40
chris____HappyFool: looks like the grub info pages aren't installed by default?09:41
HappyFoolhm. let me look...09:41
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HappyFoolchris____: yeah, you're right, info pages are in grub-doc09:41
linux_geekchris____: use hiddenmenu in menu.lst09:42
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chris____linux_geek: thanks.  I'll try that...09:42
melrosemrmDoes anyone know if a wireless card driver for redhat would work with Ubuntu?09:42
linux_geekanytime chris____09:42
chris____linux_geek: it's the default in fedora core and I quite like it.09:42
chris____I don't want the user to be confused by the menu.09:42
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linux_geekyaa fedora menu looks nice09:42
deliremelrosemrm: yes it should. use 'alien' to convert it to a deb and use dpkg -i to install it.09:43
dooglusthe ubuntu menu isn't graphical like the fedora one, either.09:43
HappyFoolchris____: i think it's the default in ubuntu if ubuntu's the only OS installed (could be wrong)09:43
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dooglusHappyFool: I'm not brave enough to make ubuntu the only OS09:43
_kevinhow to un-install or remove a file/program that you installed by compiling and doing ./configure make and make install09:43
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HappyFooldooglus: fair enough. but it makes sense to have the menu by default when there is another os to boot09:44
kl365after installation i get the following error on boot: pivot_root: no such file or directory09:44
dooglusHappyFool: maybe.09:44
kl365then /sbin/init: 428: cannot open dev/console: no such file09:44
kl365Kernel panic not syncing: attempted to kill init!09:45
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doogluswish me luck with the reboot - hopefully I'll be back soon!  :)09:45
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bleckhey, anyone had problems where startx is missing?  All the sudden, rebooted, no X... startx not located in /usr/X11R6/bin either... =( any suggestions?09:45
deliremelrosemrm: no need to msg me. apt-get install alien09:45
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delire[v2hja] : jesus xrist. how boring.09:46
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delire[v2hja] : just the 'fglrx' driver. don't delete the other one! ;)09:46
delire[v2hja] : ok so just to confirm 'dpkg -P xorg-driver-fglrx' doesn't work09:47
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bleckkind of odd, first time my nvidia module couldn't be found, so i checked synaptic and nvidia-glx was unisntalled... so i installed again, then no x server09:47
delire[v2hja] : .. that command exactly.09:47
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delire[v2hja] : if it does find the package but can't uninstall it try dpkg -P --force-all xorg-driver-fglrx09:48
VeinorI'm having a problem with installation09:49
ChrisCFSeveas: looked?09:49
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VeinorIt says it's 'Testing Network repository...' and has been doing so for the past 10 minutes or so09:49
HappyFoolVeinor: how are you doing the install? From CD?09:49
VeinorYep, from an ISO image09:50
HappyFoolVeinor: try unplugging your network connection, and rebooting?09:50
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VeinorCurrently it's not connected, actually09:51
HappyFoolhrm09:51
VeinorDoes it need to be?09:51
HappyFoolno, i installed entirely offline09:51
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[v2hja] delire,09:52
HappyFoolwhat some of network hardware does it have?09:52
linux_geekVeinor: use advanced mode of installation , default mode scans for internet connection to get updates09:52
[v2hja] can you see me now in private ?09:52
VeinorAh.09:52
linux_geekVeinor: select "expert" while installing09:52
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VeinorHmm...09:56
Veinordoing an expert install09:56
gamemastax`can anyone help me get my touchpad working?09:57
gamemastax`and my wireless?09:57
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syndgamemastax`: need details09:58
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gamemastax`I have a compaq presario r300009:58
gamemastax`um let me get the make09:58
gamemastax`broadcom wireless09:58
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ubunAnybody has a SBLive! under Ubuntu?09:58
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syndgamemastax`: youll need ndiswrapper for a broadcom09:59
ggecompaq? what blend?09:59
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_kevinhow to un-install or remove a file/program that you installed by compiling and doing ./configure make and make install09:59
gamemastax`i have ndiswrapper09:59
gamemastax`i have it installed09:59
gamemastax`i have the driver09:59
mjrubun, yes, works fine09:59
HappyFool_kevin: if you're lucky there's a 'make uninstall'09:59
gamemastax`it can SEE the wireless networks with wifi-radar, however, can't connect to them10:00
gge...10:00
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HappyFool_kevin: otherwise, you'll have to do it by finding the files it installed and removing them yourself10:00
_kevinthere is no other way to un-intsall somethig in linux10:00
_kevinthat is very bad if linux plans to step ahead of windows10:00
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HappyFool_kevin: by default the app will be in /usr/local somewhere, so its files shouldn't be hard to find10:00
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HappyFool_kevin: that is a strawman argument. if you are that level of user, you should use apt-get or synaptic10:01
HappyFool_kevin: ./configure + make are for expert level users10:01
dfearhi folks - having problems with lvm2 volgroup - output from pvscan says:   Couldn't find device with uuid 'QtiVj8-vb5m-0yoi-w2js-ucMc-2rPU-eJ7zJJ'.        PV unknown device   VG vgRoot   lvm2 [37.27 GB / 37.27 GB free]    - anyone know how to remove the unknown device from the volgroup?10:01
_kevinthat is the main way to install something you download10:01
_kevinapt-get doesn't have everything10:01
gamemastax`someone help me get my wireless working >.<10:01
ubunmjr, Ubuntu detect it automatically?10:02
mjrubun, yes10:02
gamemastax`Please?10:02
lisa_is it possible to get ubuntu to show something pretty while it boots, rather than all that geeky text?10:03
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gamemastax`lisa_: GIVE INTO THE GEEK10:03
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lisa_gamemastax`: oh, I have done.  but I would rather not see him all the time10:04
gamemastax`:o10:04
delirehave a couple of estonian friends10:04
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gamemastax`that's not healthy lisa10:04
HappyFoollisa_: other distro's (e.g., SuSE) do it, so it's obviously possible. i don't think it'll be too easy in current ubuntu though10:04
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deliresorry, was for pm10:05
sam2if you run linux and hang out on irc you're already geeky enough not to care10:05
transgressi feel so gipped... i bought a taper to guage my ears up another size... and the taper just slide right through... didn't even have to use it...10:05
jaysinnsam2, true10:05
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lisa_HappyFool: I've seen some distros show a happy pretty screen unless any step of the boot process takes too long, at which point it switches to geek-mode.  when the boot process continues, it goes back to the pretty screen10:06
transgressi guess i'll guage them to zeros like tomorrow so i at least feel as if i accomplished something10:06
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lisa_thing is, I'm not really lisa, I'm dooglus.  I'm geeky enough not to care, but she isn't...10:07
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microhaxoyawn10:07
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gamemastax`lol10:07
foodcomanbergeek's in the house!10:07
[v2hja] delire,10:08
gamemastax`!seen dooglus10:08
ubotudooglus <~chris@user-7773.lns3-c7.dsl.pol.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 22m 42s ago, saying: 'wish me luck with the reboot - hopefully I'll be back soon!  :)'.10:08
microhaxowhat it is yo..10:08
microhaxoguys, im having problems installing AMERICAS ARMY for linux10:08
microhaxoit keeps saying that the md5 checkism is off10:08
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microhaxo?10:08
gamemastax`micro...10:08
gamemastax`lol10:08
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microhaxoi have downloaded the game like 4 times10:08
gamemastax`what's your AA name10:08
gamemastax`and honorlevel10:08
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gamemastax`I can't help your problem but i can play with you ^^10:09
microhaxoIt was microhaxo, but i was banned for having a conspicues name..10:09
microhaxohonor was 4110:09
foodcomanBroken if it says checkism and not checksum    =)10:09
jaysinnDoes anyone have a question?10:09
microhaxolol10:09
microhaxoyou know what i mean10:09
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delireodd10:09
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foodcomanYeah.10:09
sam2all in all, i gotta say this ubuntu is pretty nice10:09
deliresure is10:09
microhaxoyea10:09
microhaxoit kicks ass10:09
signiusWHat am i wearing is your starter question for 10 points10:09
foodcomanWhat is the link to America's Army?10:09
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deliresam2 down OSX down win32!10:09
[v2hja] delire,10:09
microhaxooh the direct?10:09
gamemastax`http://www.americasarmy.com10:09
microhaxohttp://files.filefront.com/AA_SF_Linux_v23_Full_Install/;3813135;;/fileinfo.html10:09
microhaxothat comes up bad every time10:10
microhaxoso im dl from a diff source10:10
microhaxoat 256 kb/s cap :|10:10
gamemastax`i use fileplanet10:10
microhaxo38%10:10
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gamemastax`i have an account there10:10
microhaxofileplanet dont have 2.3 fill10:10
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microhaxofind it10:10
microhaxolol10:10
sam2so far10:11
foodcomanAA purchase product?10:11
foodcomanDemo?10:11
gamemastax`wtf, aa costs money?10:11
gamemastax`no10:11
delireno, AA is a recreuitment game, they want to cover all demographics, poor or otherwise10:12
seth_kdon't waste your time dl'ing america's army right now10:12
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jaysinnfoodcoman, what the fuck are you guys talking about?10:12
hajikiHi, I keep trying to compile mplayer-pluging for firefox. I already isntalld mozilla-firefox-dev, but the compilation keeps complaining about a misiiing mozilla-plugin interface. any help?10:12
seth_kyou can't play on official servers10:12
seth_kuntil aa 2.4 is released10:12
microhaxolmao, then all i need is a patch10:12
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microhaxoOk10:12
microhaxowhat is a GOOD FREE linux game then10:12
microhaxolmao10:12
seth_knope, you can't patch 2.3 -> 2.410:12
microhaxobah10:12
seth_kyo'ull have to dload the whole thing10:12
foodcomanjaysinn: Americas Army Game10:12
seth_kcause the engine changes :(10:12
microhaxoerr10:12
jaysinncool10:12
microhaxoso10:12
microhaxoi can do training10:13
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microhaxo:D10:13
microhaxocant it?10:13
microhaxoi?10:13
seth_kyep!10:13
sam2delire, i think winXP is pretty good, and what ive seen and heard of OSX it seems all right too10:13
microhaxoyay10:13
seth_kyou could do the training10:13
refuze2loozewhy when i copy stuff it disappears from my clipboard?>10:13
seth_kbut you'd have to download another 700 MB in a couple weeks...10:13
microhaxoim 7mbit down im fine :D10:13
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sam2wouldnt they especially want the poor to play it so they can send them to war10:13
hajikimicrohaxo, enemy territory is a free game based on the return to castle wolfenstein engine. enemy-territory.com10:13
[v2hja] delire,10:13
hajikii think thats quake3, and its free10:13
microhaxoi was a beta tester for that game10:13
microhaxolol10:13
deliresam2 xp is a toy OS. OSX is crippled UNIX10:13
Fabiani'm off! cu tomorrow or so.....10:13
Nightcr8wl3ris it free hajiki10:13
microhaxocool, any others?10:13
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delire[v2hja]  so 900 now?10:14
hajikiNightcr8wl3r, yeah its free, but its online only10:14
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hajikiNightcr8wl3r, It's free and open source10:15
seth_kenemy territory rocks10:15
seth_kI like Vendetta, but not free10:15
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hajikiI like battlefield 2 demo =p10:15
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microhaxofor linux?!10:15
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ztonzydelire, evening10:15
microhaxobf2 demo is for linux TOO!!>>!?!?10:16
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Nightcr8wl3rhajiki - thanks..I will take a look at it10:16
seth_kmicrohaxo, here's the uberlist of games: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=515310:16
microhaxolol10:16
microhaxocool10:16
mindmedicStop the tank! Use grenedes, use panzerfausts!10:16
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sam2delire, XP does everything most people need in an easy way that works10:17
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socommsam2: Ha!10:17
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VeinorHi, I'm still working on the installation...10:17
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deliresam2 hehe it's mostly borken. people are just used to the m$ take on "just works"10:17
VeinorAnd I was told to use expert mode to avoid trying to connect to the network repositories...10:18
decafVeinor: so?10:18
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GabrielIs there a utility that allow me to view all computers in a Apple network (mac os x computers) ?10:18
VeinorAnd I'm wondering what option I should set to avoid doing this10:19
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microhaxohey wit10:19
microhaxoso battlefield 2 isnt for linux :|10:19
decafVeinor: you just start with typing 'expert' at boot prompt10:19

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