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| jsgotangco | jeffsch, hi | 06:16 |
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| jeffsch | hello | 06:16 |
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| jsgotangco | hmmm its only past lunch :P | 06:26 |
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| jsgotangco | Burgundavia, ping? | 09:00 |
| Burgundavia | salut | 09:04 |
| jsgotangco | have you seen froud lately? | 09:04 |
| Burgundavia | he was in here last night I think | 09:05 |
| jsgotangco | ahh he's been editing some wiki entries a few minutes ago | 09:09 |
| jsgotangco | hmm i still like mediawiki | 09:14 |
| Burgundavia | yes | 09:16 |
| Burgundavia | the history feature on the new wiki also sucks | 09:16 |
| jsgotangco | i agree | 09:16 |
| Burgundavia | and mediawiki also more power of making pages look pretty | 09:16 |
| jsgotangco | why do i have this feeling it just became more complicated | 09:16 |
| jsgotangco | Burgundavia, i always steal wiki code from wikipedia heh | 09:17 |
| Burgundavia | mediawiki is PHP | 09:17 |
| jsgotangco | even so, its one of the few PHP apps worth using | 09:17 |
| jsgotangco | (heck i use it in this laptop for myself) | 09:18 |
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| jsgotangco | froud, hi | 10:20 |
| froud | hi jsgotangco | 10:21 |
| froud | nice one on edubuntu dude, what's the plan | 10:21 |
| jsgotangco | froud, up in the air, but i just copied what you did on the kde/gnome thing | 10:21 |
| froud | have to chatted with the ppl at edu | 10:22 |
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| jsgotangco | froud, yes, they are ok with it | 10:22 |
| jsgotangco | froud, what are you plans | 10:22 |
| froud | cool so they all know they should look to do their docs in svn | 10:22 |
| jsgotangco | there was one guy who wanted to do the stuff in moin, but i told him its still WIP while its not possible, we stick to svn | 10:23 |
| froud | mt plans are to wait and see what happens at the meeting | 10:24 |
| froud | I may/may not come to the meeting its at 2AM my time right | 10:25 |
| jsgotangco | ok | 10:25 |
| froud | but I dont think I will have much to say | 10:25 |
| froud | I want everyone else to decide on direction, that way I am not in the firing line later | 10:26 |
| jsgotangco | froud, will the forrest/lenya thing work in a virtual server like linode | 10:26 |
| froud | you need to run a tomcat | 10:27 |
| froud | I have no idea if it will work on a vserver | 10:27 |
| froud | I think it will messup the other servers | 10:27 |
| jsgotangco | (should investigate) | 10:27 |
| froud | he he, you can if you like | 10:28 |
| froud | but look at doc | 10:28 |
| froud | doco | 10:28 |
| froud | that is more or less the idea | 10:28 |
| jsgotangco | hmmm a virtual dedicated server | 10:28 |
| jsgotangco | doco? | 10:29 |
| jsgotangco | have you talked to greg taylor and troy williams, they are very good contributors at the moment | 10:30 |
| froud | http://wiki.apache.org/cocoon/Doco | 10:30 |
| froud | I have arrange greg to be a committer | 10:31 |
| froud | what is troy's nic | 10:31 |
| jsgotangco | i think its judax | 10:31 |
| froud | hav enot met him yet | 10:31 |
| froud | will chat when I see him | 10:31 |
| jsgotangco | (doco looks complicated) | 10:32 |
| froud | you and mpt speaking about install guide | 10:32 |
| froud | what's cooking there | 10:32 |
| jsgotangco | there's a breezy plan to have at least an install guide in PDF in the CD that people can print out | 10:33 |
| jsgotangco | because during install, most people won't be connectedto the net | 10:33 |
| mpt | This is all my BrainDump, it hasn't been approved yet :-) | 10:33 |
| froud | well you know there is an install guide | 10:33 |
| mpt | my DraftSpecification, rather | 10:33 |
| mpt | though sabdfl seemed to like it | 10:33 |
| mpt | http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/MigratingToUbuntu | 10:34 |
| jsgotangco | since we don't have a printed manual to begin with | 10:34 |
| mpt | also mentioned in http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpfulHelp | 10:34 |
| froud | mpt, install guide for kubuntu is in svn you need just add ubuntu screenshot you req specs and you have an install guide for ubuntu | 10:34 |
| froud | need first screen boot: | 10:35 |
| froud | https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos/trunk/generic/instalguide/C | 10:36 |
| jsgotangco | I am Patience Alex, the only daughter of late Mr. and Mrs. Alex. My father was a very wealthy cocoa merchant in South Africa; my father was poisoned to death by his business associates on one of their outings on a business trip. | 10:36 |
| jsgotangco | whoa | 10:36 |
| jsgotangco | ZA conspiracy! | 10:36 |
| mpt | Poisoned by fake cocoa | 10:37 |
| froud | whoa scam | 10:37 |
| froud | there must be a million of those scam stories | 10:37 |
| froud | mpt: you may want to contribute to the install guide | 10:38 |
| mpt | I've only ever installed Ubuntu once, it was Hoary, sabdfl was helping, and I was hallucinating at the time | 10:38 |
| mpt | I am REALLY not the best person to contribute to the install guide at the moment :-) | 10:39 |
| froud | mpt: it is structured differently to most install guides | 10:39 |
| froud | the first part deals with the default workstation install | 10:39 |
| froud | and branches into more complicated sections | 10:39 |
| froud | it is very graphic | 10:39 |
| froud | hallucinating? | 10:40 |
| mpt | yeah, I hadn't slept for about 36 hours or so | 10:40 |
| froud | judax: hello | 10:40 |
| mpt | I'll try to have a crack at the installation guide based on a Colony ISO when I'm in Brazil | 10:40 |
| froud | Colony ISO? | 10:41 |
| jsgotangco | Brazil? | 10:41 |
| jsgotangco | froud, Colony is the milestone cd for breezy | 10:41 |
| jsgotangco | just like Sounder and Array | 10:41 |
| jsgotangco | from previous releases | 10:41 |
| froud | ok, when is colony | 10:41 |
| mpt | Colony-1 is out already | 10:42 |
| mpt | but afaik, there are major changes due to happen to the installer | 10:42 |
| mpt | such as, it becoming graphical | 10:42 |
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| mpt | I'm going to Brazil next month and working from there for three months or five | 10:44 |
| jsgotangco | wow | 10:45 |
| jsgotangco | Like most men, Im a huge fan of big and juicy melons the firmer and fruitier the better. | 10:45 |
| jsgotangco | http://www.wordpress.tokyotimes.org/index.php?p=568 | 10:45 |
| froud | mpt: updating install guide for graphic install will not be a problem | 10:47 |
| froud | btw, has colony 1 already got the gui | 10:48 |
| jsgotangco | afaik, its basically the same thing with hoary, not much to look at | 10:50 |
| jsgotangco | but the new stuff is quite interesting | 10:50 |
| froud | so I dunno, is or is there not a gui on colony 1 | 10:51 |
| froud | by gui are we speaking about something like the suse installation | 10:53 |
| froud | yast | 10:53 |
| mpt | froud: http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/GraphicalInstaller | 10:54 |
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| jsgotangco | hi | 11:08 |
| mdke | morning | 11:13 |
| mdke | sup? | 11:14 |
| jsgotangco | nothing much how about you | 11:14 |
| mdke | ditto | 11:14 |
| mdke | "hack the source" ;) | 11:15 |
| jsgotangco | then get working on those docs | 11:15 |
| jsgotangco | hah | 11:15 |
| jsgotangco | come on give me a break, i want it to be lively | 11:15 |
| jsgotangco | our ml has been so quiet | 11:15 |
| mdke | i was inspired | 11:15 |
| jsgotangco | ill take that as a compliment | 11:15 |
| jsgotangco | complement | 11:16 |
| jsgotangco | hmm | 11:16 |
| jsgotangco | whats correct | 11:16 |
| mdke | the first one | 11:16 |
| mdke | but I will never feel totally confortable about using the words "hack" and "source" when talking about docs | 11:16 |
| jsgotangco | well xml is source | 11:16 |
| mdke | i sposee | 11:17 |
| jsgotangco | im gonna do other stuff for now | 11:17 |
| jsgotangco | kquickguide is as good as done with those two new contributors | 11:17 |
| mdke | yep | 11:18 |
| mdke | have you seen sean today? | 11:18 |
| mdke | he wanted to talk to you about the installguide i think | 11:18 |
| jsgotangco | yes | 11:19 |
| mdke | cool | 11:19 |
| jsgotangco | well lets hope 4 the best later | 11:23 |
| mdke | sure | 11:24 |
| mdke | i'll be back this evening for the meeting | 11:24 |
| mdke | gtg now | 11:24 |
| mvirkkil | Who has made the theme for the new wiki? | 11:27 |
| mvirkkil | never mind. It was my own mistake. | 11:28 |
| mdke | henrik | 11:38 |
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| jsgotangco | i should sleep early :-) | 11:41 |
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| jsgotangco | oh well see you guys later then | 12:15 |
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| === Topic (#ubuntu-doc): set by mdke at Wed Jun 8 12:55:34 2005 | ||
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| jjesse | morning squishywaffle | 03:55 |
| jjesse | :) | 03:55 |
| SquishyWaffle | Greetings, jjesse | 03:55 |
| sivang | wheeee! have we finally switched back to min? | 04:18 |
| sivang | moin, even | 04:18 |
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| froud | jjesse: you there | 04:32 |
| froud | jjesse: what did you say about documentation, how a distro will be judge by the quality of its documentation? | 04:33 |
| froud | jjesse: I know I saw you say it in the list, but for lif eof me I can't find it :-) | 04:33 |
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| sigurdga | There is a really bad translation error on the wiki for norwegian bokml, and the translation is not done in rosetta. Does anyone know how to get rid of the misspelling (and how I can proofread the rest of the translation)? | 05:41 |
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| froud | sigurdga: guess you need to edit the norwegian bokml wiki | 06:03 |
| froud | sigurdga: our docs go through rosetta, but not everybody uses our method | 06:03 |
| sigurdga | froud: it is the title of one of the search buttons, the title-button | 06:38 |
| sigurdga | not the documentation itself | 06:38 |
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| judax | Greetings | 06:54 |
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| jjesse | greetings judax | 07:14 |
| judax | HI | 07:18 |
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| jjesse | welcome back froud | 07:23 |
| froud | I aint back I'm just visiting :-) | 07:23 |
| judax | froud: Hello | 07:23 |
| jjesse | grin fine welcome visitor | 07:24 |
| froud | hello judax | 07:24 |
| froud | judax: seen you have been busy giving patches, thanks for all your work | 07:24 |
| judax | np, glad I can help out. it is fun | 07:24 |
| froud | so tell us about yourself | 07:25 |
| judax | ah, live in Austin, TX. Am an Infrastrucutre Manager (manage unix, vms, storage, oracle, nt, technical teams) | 07:26 |
| froud | what do you do when you are not creating patches for ubuntu-docs | 07:26 |
| froud | wow busy | 07:26 |
| judax | hehe, too busy sometimes | 07:26 |
| jjesse | that sounds more interesting then me :) | 07:27 |
| jjesse | i'm just a network adminstrator for a bank | 07:27 |
| judax | kind of a pain most of the time, don't get to do any technical stuff anymore, just go to meetings | 07:27 |
| froud | judax: do any of your systems run ubuntu/kubuntu? | 07:27 |
| judax | and get yelled at | 07:27 |
| jjesse | just my desktop runs kubuntu | 07:27 |
| jjesse | i have one debian box that runs helpdesk software first use of *nix in the bank | 07:28 |
| judax | no, linux is making an apperance in some of our datacenters at client request, but we have support issues | 07:28 |
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| froud | judax: what type of issues | 07:28 |
| judax | we have SLAs with the clients, so we need to be able to tie that to a support contract from somebody | 07:28 |
| judax | usually end up with the red hat enterprise | 07:29 |
| froud | what about canonical | 07:29 |
| judax | it is possible | 07:30 |
| froud | so what makes you intereste din doing docs | 07:30 |
| judax | work for large corp, so all that has to become part of the LTM (technology model), but linux adoption is moving much slower than I would like | 07:31 |
| froud | and that is why you are contributing to the docs | 07:32 |
| judax | I have not had the chance to write code for quite a few years and I want to help with free software, so docs are kind of what I can help with | 07:33 |
| froud | cool | 07:33 |
| froud | would you like to get more involved here at ubuntu-doc | 07:33 |
| judax | plus, I see a great need in documentation, especially if you are tageting wide-scale adoption | 07:33 |
| froud | agreed :-) | 07:34 |
| judax | you bet | 07:34 |
| froud | that is something everyone here does agree on | 07:34 |
| froud | what would you like to work on for breezy? | 07:34 |
| judax | I really don't have a *must* work on project. I would like to help where it is needed, whatever that might be | 07:36 |
| froud | kde or gnome your pref | 07:36 |
| judax | I have had a linux box on my desk for a long time (prob 1995 with Caldera OpenLinux first) | 07:36 |
| judax | I tend to gravitate to KDE | 07:36 |
| judax | I always come back to KDE, just like it better | 07:37 |
| judax | sucker for eye-candy I guess :) | 07:37 |
| froud | Ok you will find that you need a kubuntu box to write against | 07:37 |
| froud | judax: yes, I agree kde is way ahead of the kurve | 07:37 |
| froud | you already seem to know what to do with docbook | 07:38 |
| froud | I guess you already have a checkout of our svn repos | 07:39 |
| judax | not a docbook expert, just using existing docs as examples, learning as I go | 07:39 |
| jjesse | isn't that the best way to go? | 07:39 |
| judax | aye | 07:39 |
| froud | that's ok | 07:39 |
| jjesse | i just muddle my way through | 07:39 |
| judax | me too | 07:39 |
| froud | with some help from your freinds | 07:39 |
| judax | is that a song? | 07:39 |
| froud | yeah a baby let's make music | 07:40 |
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| judax | hehe | 07:40 |
| froud | Ok you have been introduced to the kwick guide | 07:40 |
| froud | there is also a user guide | 07:40 |
| froud | and admin guide | 07:41 |
| froud | they are very new | 07:41 |
| judax | I have looked at those briefly | 07:41 |
| froud | you are like totally empowered to make of them what you will | 07:41 |
| froud | there is also a generic install guide | 07:41 |
| judax | ok | 07:41 |
| judax | I read that last night | 07:41 |
| froud | everything needs work here | 07:42 |
| froud | the project is young | 07:42 |
| judax | yes, but seems pretty active which is encouraging | 07:42 |
| froud | I would like to get you a commit account, can you manage that | 07:43 |
| judax | sure | 07:43 |
| froud | ok I need you to send me your public pgp key | 07:43 |
| judax | ok | 07:43 |
| froud | sean@inwords.co.za | 07:43 |
| froud | I will send this to enrico with a message that I back your account. he will make sure that elmo creates the account for you | 07:44 |
| froud | Oh enrico is here | 07:45 |
| judax | public key on its way | 07:45 |
| froud | lets ask him | 07:45 |
| froud | enrico: | 07:45 |
| froud | enrico: ping | 07:45 |
| froud | ok he is probably busy | 07:46 |
| judax | ok | 07:46 |
| froud | I will forward it. | 07:46 |
| froud | Enrico will normall cc you in his message to elmo | 07:47 |
| froud | welcome to the team | 07:47 |
| judax | great, thx much | 07:47 |
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| jjesse | froud can i send you my pbulic key as well? | 07:48 |
| jjesse | man i can't type today :( | 07:48 |
| froud | jjesse: you should have done so long ago, so ye | 07:48 |
| jjesse | grin on its way | 07:48 |
| froud | thanks | 07:48 |
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| froud | judax: sent | 07:57 |
| froud | jjesse: sent | 07:57 |
| judax | Thx much | 07:57 |
| abelli | froud: ma que pasa? | 07:57 |
| judax | have a meeting, afk for a bit | 07:58 |
| froud | abelli: en pls | 07:58 |
| abelli | froud: actually .. i dont know if its correct .. im in bkl .. | 07:59 |
| abelli | but it should mean something like "how are you doing"? | 07:59 |
| froud | good man and how r you | 07:59 |
| froud | how's mama and papa | 07:59 |
| abelli | froud: en pls. | 08:00 |
| abelli | mamma e papa' .. il papa e' a roma. | 08:00 |
| froud | abelli when will you make it easy for me to have a conversation with you | 08:00 |
| abelli | the right way is in you, brother. | 08:01 |
| froud | oh god here we go again | 08:01 |
| froud | :-) | 08:01 |
| abelli | how are you all doing? | 08:02 |
| froud | we're fine abelli | 08:02 |
| froud | what have you been doing lately | 08:03 |
| froud | have not seen you around | 08:03 |
| froud | exams? | 08:03 |
| abelli | yes. | 08:03 |
| abelli | lots. | 08:03 |
| abelli | and lots. | 08:03 |
| abelli | and some more lots. | 08:03 |
| froud | ouch | 08:03 |
| froud | hope you did well | 08:03 |
| abelli | actually yes .. but the way is long. | 08:03 |
| froud | ah yes the penalty of youth | 08:04 |
| froud | exams | 08:04 |
| abelli | .. someone bless them. | 08:04 |
| abelli | i think its easier having to pass exams than living life. | 08:05 |
| froud | nah I never do well at exams | 08:05 |
| froud | life, now that is no problem | 08:06 |
| froud | just live it! | 08:06 |
| abelli | well ive been forced to do so for 20 yrs .. | 08:06 |
| froud | it gets easier | 08:07 |
| abelli | ill be so for the next 60+ yrs. or at least i hope so. | 08:07 |
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| abelli | na na na .. mach or plan9. thx. | 08:08 |
| abelli | alternative (like current). | 08:09 |
| judax | back | 08:09 |
| froud | abelli: I can imagine you with your grandchildren saying, "my bambino's, when I was young we were freedom fights of the free software movement." | 08:10 |
| abelli | froud: what are you telling them? | 08:11 |
| froud | and then you will bring out your collection of linux dvd's from the early 2000's | 08:11 |
| froud | just teasing dude | 08:12 |
| abelli | dvds? | 08:12 |
| abelli | well if you could send me a signature .. | 08:12 |
| abelli | that is going to be something to show. | 08:12 |
| mpt | http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpfulHelp is finishedddddddddd | 08:14 |
| abelli | what kind of dvds? | 08:14 |
| abelli | mpt: bless you. | 08:14 |
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| mpt | see y'all in 3.74 hours :-) | 08:15 |
| abelli | did they give any gold medal? | 08:15 |
| enrico | froud: pong | 08:18 |
| froud | enrico: ping | 08:21 |
| froud | enrico: it's all in your mail | 08:22 |
| enrico | froud: ok,I'll get to it | 08:22 |
| froud | thanks dude, what would life be without you | 08:22 |
| abelli | buona serata | 08:24 |
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| SquishyWaffle | that illustration rocks my world | 08:28 |
| froud | what illustration the one from mpt? | 08:28 |
| SquishyWaffle | yeah: http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpfulHelp?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=helpsystem.jpg | 08:30 |
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| gtaylor | wow this nick isn't taken | 08:30 |
| froud | easy to type also | 08:31 |
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| enrico | gtaylor: register it! | 08:31 |
| GregTaylor | did, getting gregTaylor too just in case :) | 08:31 |
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| froud | I think mpt's help system will need a totally different approach to the writing | 08:32 |
| gtaylor | Removing of the left index is a big change | 08:32 |
| enrico | froud: preferred usernames for troy and jesse? | 08:32 |
| froud | though I like the diff between packaged help and help.u.c | 08:32 |
| froud | judax: ping | 08:33 |
| judax | froud: pong | 08:33 |
| froud | jjesse has left the building | 08:33 |
| froud | judax: speak to enrico | 08:33 |
| judax | oh, sorry | 08:34 |
| gtaylor | SVN stuff? | 08:34 |
| froud | enrico: for jjesse just use jjesse I think, dont think he will mind | 08:34 |
| judax | enrico: troywill1 | 08:34 |
| enrico | judax: wow. Are you sure you want it so complicated? :) | 08:34 |
| froud | enrico: or email him | 08:34 |
| judax | enrico: if not a problem, it is an old standard for me, doesn't really matter though | 08:35 |
| froud | enrico: ask almo for a report on how many commit accounts we have | 08:35 |
| judax | any will do | 08:35 |
| enrico | judax: no problem at all. I was just making sure you aren't being shy :) | 08:36 |
| judax | enrico: hehe, nah, just easy for my tired brain to remember | 08:37 |
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| froud | enrico: do you have ssh to that host? | 08:38 |
| judax | enrico: many thanks | 08:38 |
| enrico | froud: to what host? | 08:39 |
| enrico | judax: no problem! | 08:39 |
| froud | the one running svn | 08:39 |
| enrico | froud: no. I don't have ssh to any Canonical machine | 08:39 |
| froud | Hmm | 08:39 |
| froud | ok | 08:39 |
| froud | gtaylor: elmo is slow at creating accounts | 08:40 |
| froud | if you dont have something by mid next week pong enrico or me | 08:40 |
| froud | and we will chas ehim | 08:40 |
| froud | beat him with a stick | 08:41 |
| enrico | :) | 08:41 |
| froud | enrico: how many committers do we have now | 08:41 |
| froud | with judax and gtaylor we should have made up the 35% extra we need to achieve breezy targets | 08:43 |
| enrico | froud: do idea | 08:43 |
| mdke | evening | 08:44 |
| froud | evening | 08:44 |
| mdke | froud, you're back? | 08:44 |
| froud | just visiting | 08:45 |
| judax | mdke: hi | 08:45 |
| mdke | hi judax | 08:45 |
| mdke | froud, staying around later? | 08:45 |
| froud | 2AM may be late | 08:45 |
| mdke | guess | 08:45 |
| mdke | so | 08:45 |
| froud | I am right about the time, no? | 08:45 |
| froud | what time is it there now | 08:46 |
| judax | let me guess 1747 | 08:46 |
| judax | err 19 | 08:46 |
| mdke | 19.46 | 08:47 |
| mdke | date -u gives you the time in UTC | 08:47 |
| froud | 20:39 here | 08:47 |
| judax | good, got a UTC clock on a world band radio, just making sure I have it set right | 08:47 |
| judax | hate the time charts on the internet | 08:47 |
| mdke | so it will be midnight your time froud | 08:47 |
| froud | Thu Jun 16 20:40:26 SAST 2005 | 08:47 |
| froud | Thu Jun 16 18:40:35 UTC 2005 | 08:48 |
| mdke | your clock is out a bit tho | 08:48 |
| froud | darn ntp | 08:48 |
| mdke | ;) | 08:48 |
| mdke | unless mine is | 08:48 |
| judax | no I have 1849 UTC | 08:48 |
| froud | mdke: I will see if I can stay awake | 08:49 |
| froud | mdke: but the main thing is you guys resolve issues | 08:49 |
| froud | by my mature, when I am involved I tend to direct things, and I think you guys need to start doing that :-) | 08:50 |
| froud | s/mature/nature | 08:50 |
| mdke | i'm easy about this | 08:51 |
| froud | mdke: I would like to see it work so that the loss of anyone, for whatever reason, will see the team continue to function | 08:51 |
| froud | hence my previous stressing of low overhead methods | 08:52 |
| froud | and automation | 08:52 |
| froud | of everything | 08:52 |
| froud | mdke: you're just easy ;-) | 08:53 |
| froud | especially after a few n browns | 08:53 |
| === mdke nods | ||
| froud | anyone got any useful /exec scripts for konversation | 08:55 |
| froud | things you can actually use on IRC | 08:55 |
| mdke | for doing what? | 08:56 |
| froud | dunno, konversation has this great feature | 08:56 |
| froud | but I am trying to understand why | 08:56 |
| froud | what for | 08:56 |
| froud | 20:49:27 up 8:15, 1 user, load average: 0.10, 0.05, 0.01 | 08:56 |
| froud | hmm | 08:57 |
| mdke | you can use /exec -o to post the output of commands | 08:57 |
| froud | but is that not the same as /exec cmd foo | 08:57 |
| mdke | erm | 08:59 |
| mdke | lemme try | 08:59 |
| mdke | 19:59:06 up 17:23, 1 user, load average: 0.46, 0.37, 0.26 | 08:59 |
| mdke | no | 08:59 |
| mdke | /exec on its own doesn't post the command to the chan | 08:59 |
| mdke | command/output | 08:59 |
| froud | Qt: 3.3.3 | 08:59 |
| froud | KDE: 3.4.1 | 08:59 |
| froud | kde-config: 1.0 | 08:59 |
| froud | that is the output of /exec kdeversion | 09:00 |
| froud | Linux zulu 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Tue Jun 7 08:26:42 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux | 09:00 |
| froud | cmd script is useful | 09:01 |
| froud | seems you can write your own scripts | 09:03 |
| froud | example from help | 09:03 |
| froud | #!/bin/sh | 09:03 |
| froud | # Executes a command and prints the output into Konversation. | 09:04 |
| froud | PORT=$1; | 09:04 |
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| froud | SERVER=$2; | 09:04 |
| froud | TARGET=$3; | 09:04 |
| froud | shift;shift;shift; | 09:04 |
| froud | $@ | while read line; do dcop $PORT Konversation say $SERVER "$TARGET" "$@: $line"; done | 09:04 |
| froud | cool | 09:58 |
| froud | searc google in konversation | 09:58 |
| froud | Uptime: 9 hours and 38 minutes | 10:20 |
| froud | hmm | 10:20 |
| judax | froud: you got it all figured out yet? | 10:20 |
| froud | yeah cool | 10:20 |
| froud | DCOP is amzing | 10:21 |
| froud | and google web services | 10:21 |
| froud | what do you want to search on google | 10:21 |
| froud | just do it in konversation | 10:21 |
| froud | example output | 10:22 |
| froud | [DCOP] Searching Google for ubuntu ... | 10:22 |
| froud | [21:50] [DCOP] Results 1-5 of about 472000 for ubuntu (0.053592 seconds) | 10:22 |
| froud | [21:50] [DCOP] http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ (Ubuntu - Linux for Human Beings) | 10:22 |
| froud | [21:50] [DCOP] http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/ (Ubuntu - Download) | 10:22 |
| froud | [21:50] [DCOP] http://ubuntulinux.org/ (Ubuntu - Linux for Human Beings) | 10:22 |
| froud | [21:50] [DCOP] http://www.ubuntu.org/ (UBUNTU - World Forum of Networks) | 10:22 |
| froud | [21:50] [DCOP] http://ubuntu.upc.es/ (UBUNTU - World Forum of Networks) | 10:22 |
| judax | haha, that is sweet | 10:22 |
| froud | only I see it | 10:22 |
| froud | well the google search | 10:22 |
| froud | also accepts search criteria via the wdsl api | 10:23 |
| judax | is that the script from help or did you write that one? | 10:23 |
| froud | s/wdsl/wsdl | 10:23 |
| froud | no that is installed in /usr/share/apps/konversation/scripts/ | 10:24 |
| judax | ah ok | 10:24 |
| froud | but there are a few examples so it is easy to follow | 10:24 |
| froud | you can use any scripting language | 10:25 |
| froud | way cool | 10:25 |
| froud | could be useful for FAQs | 10:25 |
| froud | like a bot, just not as anoying | 10:25 |
| judax | going to look through some of the scripts | 10:26 |
| froud | to use the google script you need a googlekey | 10:27 |
| froud | you get 1000 queries a day | 10:27 |
| judax | ok | 10:27 |
| froud | put the google key in your ~/.googlekey | 10:27 |
| froud | key is created here http://api.google.com/createkey | 10:28 |
| judax | ah, thx | 10:28 |
| froud | http://www.google.com/apis/reference.html#searchrequest | 10:28 |
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| gtaylor | elmo is in #kubuntu-devel btw | 10:49 |
| mdke | ? | 10:49 |
| mdke | he is always there no? | 10:49 |
| === gtaylor thought someone was looking for him earlier | ||
| mdke | ah | 10:50 |
| froud | you can find him, but you cant get him to do what you want hime to | 10:50 |
| gtaylor | ahh, heh | 10:50 |
| mdke | he needs to confirm additions to the svn access list | 10:51 |
| mdke | thats why it can take some time | 10:51 |
| gtaylor | maybe someone should send him brownies | 10:51 |
| mdke | i'm sure he would appreciate that | 10:51 |
| mdke | me too! | 10:51 |
| froud | dudes kde is amazing I just keep discovering new things | 10:52 |
| gtaylor | yup, I re-arranged the bejesus out of my laptop's desktop | 10:53 |
| mdke | hmm | 10:53 |
| mdke | this kde business is getting out of control | 10:53 |
| gtaylor | taskbar is on the bottom, menus and shortcuts at the top and some room for applets | 10:53 |
| gtaylor | kde is hawt | 10:54 |
| Burgundavia | bah | 10:54 |
| mdke | morning jdub | 10:54 |
| Burgundavia | gnome is where it is at | 10:54 |
| === mdke high fives Burgundavia | ||
| mdke | you bet | 10:54 |
| froud | gtaylor: you seen those ioslaves yet | 10:55 |
| gtaylor | mmmm | 10:55 |
| froud | and hows that imap:// in konqueror | 10:55 |
| mdke | blah blah | 10:55 |
| gtaylor | heh, the list is quite large | 10:55 |
| froud | there are so many kioslave tasks | 10:55 |
| gtaylor | I was just fish://'ing myself | 10:55 |
| froud | yeah SSH just changes | 10:56 |
| gtaylor | of course man:/ is handy too | 10:57 |
| froud | try applications:// | 10:57 |
| mdke | this is just silly now | 10:57 |
| froud | mdke: jealeous | 10:57 |
| mdke | oh totally | 10:57 |
| gtaylor | neato | 10:57 |
| === mdke enters irc:// in nautilus | ||
| === gtaylor is looking at irc through Kopete :) | ||
| froud | dude nautilus is like so dead | 10:58 |
| mdke | hmm | 10:58 |
| Burgundavia | thunar is very nice | 10:58 |
| mdke | nautilus is great | 10:58 |
| gtaylor | not to mention it's the name of that workout thing that guy is always advertising on TV | 10:58 |
| Burgundavia | hope it exits the vapourware stage soon | 10:58 |
| froud | can nautilus gve a terminal emulator | 10:59 |
| gtaylor | can Nautilus make me dinner? | 11:00 |
| mdke | it is a file manager | 11:00 |
| mdke | it doesn't do silly unnecessary things | 11:00 |
| mdke | that could be better spent fixing bugs and making it better | 11:01 |
| gtaylor | proper nutrition isn't silly | 11:01 |
| mdke | gtaylor, you have a cook to make you dinner | 11:01 |
| gtaylor | she's an hour away :( | 11:01 |
| mdke | nautilus will manage your files | 11:01 |
| gtaylor | laundry would be nice too...I'll have to file a feature request | 11:02 |
| froud | gtaylor: did you know you can call any programs help by just saying help:foo | 11:02 |
| === mdke prefers programs that do one thing well rather than loads of things sloppily | ||
| gtaylor | as a matter o' fact I did, froud! How convenient :) | 11:02 |
| mdke | hmm | 11:02 |
| === gtaylor just got a batch of official Kubuntu CDs today to show off | ||
| froud | see what you mean with the man:su | 11:03 |
| froud | cool | 11:04 |
| gtaylor | it's all hilighted and stuff | 11:04 |
| gtaylor | man page reading made fun! (not really) | 11:04 |
| froud | that mac ioslave is a good idea | 11:04 |
| gtaylor | mac ioslave? | 11:05 |
| gtaylor | ahh, weird | 11:05 |
| gtaylor | I'm not a mac guy, never used that stuff | 11:05 |
| froud | type mailto:sean@inwords.co.za and spawn kmail composer | 11:06 |
| froud | omg | 11:06 |
| gtaylor | heh | 11:06 |
| froud | that makes life easy | 11:06 |
| gtaylor | if you use KMail :) | 11:06 |
| froud | I use the whole of kontact | 11:07 |
| gtaylor | do you use firefox or konqueror | 11:08 |
| gtaylor | ? | 11:08 |
| froud | mostly firefox | 11:09 |
| froud | but I dont stop konqueror if needed | 11:09 |
| froud | to me its what ever opens and works right then | 11:10 |
| gtaylor | It'd be so awesome if they fixed some of the funkiness with page rendering in Knoqueror | 11:10 |
| gtaylor | firefox is nice but it's so slow to load | 11:10 |
| froud | if konqueror is open and I just need a quick thing then I just let it role rather than wait for FF | 11:10 |
| froud | for long browsing sessions I will load FF | 11:11 |
| gtaylor | yeah | 11:11 |
| gtaylor | gimme a minute to upload this, I have something neat :) | 11:12 |
| froud | but I like the factthat konqueror can be everything and the Kitchen sink | 11:12 |
| froud | OK | 11:12 |
| froud | fish is just so cool | 11:17 |
| gtaylor | albeit a funky name :) | 11:18 |
| froud | irc:// spawns konversation | 11:19 |
| froud | pass the server and it connect to the server | 11:20 |
| froud | did you upload the cool thing? | 11:20 |
| froud | gtaylor: hav eyou used kolab | 11:23 |
| gtaylor | http://squishywaffle.com/gallery/albums/Misc/dscf0551.sized.jpg | 11:23 |
| gtaylor | no, what's kolab? | 11:23 |
| froud | http://kolab.org/ | 11:23 |
| gtaylor | that's pretty neat | 11:24 |
| froud | yeah use kontact on the road | 11:25 |
| gtaylor | blargh, I just realized that my windows workstation is visible on the left, ruins the Linux atmosphere | 11:25 |
| gtaylor | My linux box here is pretty sweet here too | 11:26 |
| froud | still loading its slow | 11:26 |
| gtaylor | it's a big file :0 | 11:27 |
| gtaylor | well nm, 80k | 11:27 |
| froud | yeah and I am in africa so ittakes long | 11:28 |
| gtaylor | shoot, that'd do it | 11:28 |
| froud | now using wget | 11:28 |
| judax | gtaylor: I tried to load it too, not working | 11:29 |
| gtaylor | well crap | 11:29 |
| froud | Resolving squishywaffle.com... failed: Host not found. | 11:29 |
| gtaylor | try it like this: http://squishywaffle.com/gallery/Misc/dscf0551 | 11:29 |
| gtaylor | oh, that's not good | 11:29 |
| gtaylor | How about this: http://clemsonlinux.org/~gtaylor/gallery/albums/Misc/dscf0551.sized.jpg | 11:29 |
| judax | same | 11:30 |
| judax | that works | 11:30 |
| gtaylor | phew | 11:30 |
| gtaylor | no idea why it's bombing like that | 11:30 |
| froud | Ok | 11:30 |
| gtaylor | your DNS server must not like ZoneEdit :) | 11:30 |
| froud | Oh nice sleeve | 11:31 |
| gtaylor | yeah, I do like it | 11:31 |
| judax | very good looking sleeve | 11:31 |
| gtaylor | keeping one for myself and handing the rest out tonight | 11:31 |
| judax | you can't really tell that is a windows box running in the corner there | 11:31 |
| froud | how did you get them? | 11:31 |
| froud | shipit? | 11:31 |
| gtaylor | Riddell is sending them out in small quantities on his own | 11:32 |
| froud | poor riddle | 11:32 |
| froud | and that is a serious spindle of blanks | 11:32 |
| gtaylor | We have a whole closet full of CD-RW/DVD-R's here :) | 11:33 |
| gtaylor | go through media like mad, GIS Images are massive | 11:33 |
| judax | GIS? | 11:34 |
| froud | GIS geographic information systems | 11:34 |
| judax | ah, is that like remote sensing and the like? | 11:34 |
| gtaylor | indeed | 11:35 |
| judax | wonder if I can say 'like' again | 11:35 |
| froud | yeak pretty huge | 11:35 |
| gtaylor | We can justifiably run a lab of 95% Kubuntu machines :0 | 11:35 |
| froud | cooooool kde rocks | 11:35 |
| gtaylor | There are no real competitors to ArcGIS which only runs on Windows, so we have to have a few Windows boxes for that purpose. All development of sensor networks is done on Ubuntu | 11:35 |
| froud | and kubuntu flies | 11:35 |
| gtaylor | Last Fedora box was dropped a few weeks ago :) | 11:36 |
| froud | yay!!! | 11:36 |
| froud | I want to move my main worstation from SuSE to Kubuntu this weekend | 11:37 |
| gtaylor | SuSe is rock solid too, we run that on our servers | 11:37 |
| froud | but I must backup a ~/ of 207 GB | 11:37 |
| judax | that will take a while | 11:38 |
| gtaylor | crap | 11:38 |
| froud | yeah dread | 11:38 |
| gtaylor | lots of porn? | 11:38 |
| froud | trying to clean out stuff | 11:38 |
| judax | haha | 11:38 |
| froud | actually its a lot of vendor drops | 11:38 |
| froud | documents in docbook from almost every FOSS project on the planet | 11:39 |
| froud | its the screen capts that take the space | 11:40 |
| froud | geeze I wish we had a way to do screen shots and save them as XML | 11:40 |
| gtaylor | screenshots, fun | 11:40 |
| Burgundavia | SVG screenshots? | 11:43 |
| froud | this guy from Linspire, Michael Robertson is pretty focused | 11:43 |
| froud | Burgundavia: yeah | 11:43 |
| froud | you got a way? | 11:44 |
| Burgundavia | he also thinks that running as root is a sane default | 11:44 |
| Burgundavia | no, I don't have a way | 11:44 |
| froud | yeah I am just looking at the artilce in LXF | 11:44 |
| froud | nice SVN article | 11:45 |
| Seveas | froud, base64 encoded screenshots in xml take up even more space :) | 11:45 |
| froud | Seveas: really, how do you take them can convertthem? | 11:46 |
| froud | can the be zipped | 11:46 |
| Seveas | zip+base64 = original size :) | 11:47 |
| froud | like OOo writer files | 11:47 |
| froud | argh | 11:47 |
| froud | Ok dudes later | 11:48 |
| froud | must go to bobo land | 11:48 |
| froud | somebody log the meeeting and post it to me | 11:49 |
| froud | its in 2 hours and 40 min from now, right mdke | 11:49 |
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| mdke | what is? | 11:49 |
| mdke | froud ^ | 11:49 |
| gtaylor | I thought it was in 10 minutes? | 11:49 |
| judax | meeting in 10 mins | 11:49 |
| squinn | yep it is | 11:49 |
| mdke | yes | 11:49 |
| squinn | i'm new to the #ubuntu-doc channel | 11:50 |
| froud | 10 mins | 11:50 |
| gtaylor | I about peed my pants for a minute there | 11:50 |
| squinn | and project in general | 11:50 |
| mdke | squinn, welcome | 11:50 |
| squinn | so i hope i'm alright here | 11:50 |
| froud | ok mov eto bed and stay awake | 11:50 |
| mdke | everyone is alright here | 11:50 |
| squinn | i worked for a bit on #gentoo-doc | 11:50 |
| mdke | cool | 11:50 |
| squinn | but i realize ubuntu's really the best distro for me | 11:50 |
| froud | we doing it in the meeting rrom | 11:50 |
| mdke | i went into #gentoo-doc just earlier to look for ideas | 11:50 |
| mdke | froud, yes | 11:50 |
| froud | squinn: welcome dude | 11:51 |
| mdke | froud said "we" | 11:51 |
| mdke | :) | 11:51 |
| froud | we we | 11:51 |
| squinn | oy oy. | 11:51 |
| squinn | lol | 11:51 |
| froud | I need to the gents | 11:51 |
| gtaylor | howdy | 11:51 |
| squinn | yeah, but #gentoo-doc's a nice chan | 11:51 |
| squinn | hi gtaylor | 11:51 |
| mdke | squinn, they were very nice, I'm gonna go away and have a look at their pages to get some ideas | 11:51 |
| squinn | mdke: yeah. but they use guidexml i believe | 11:52 |
| squinn | we use docbook right? | 11:52 |
| mdke | yes | 11:52 |
| gtaylor | I was thinking, would it cool to have a place that downloads the latest svn hourly and builds the guides in html for public viewing? | 11:52 |
| gtaylor | or do we already have that? | 11:52 |
| Burgundavia | daily is probably enough | 11:52 |
| mdke | gtaylor, we should yes | 11:52 |
| Burgundavia | the svn repo doesn't change that much | 11:53 |
| gtaylor | I could get this done pretty easily | 11:53 |
| gtaylor | Burgundavio: Once I get svn access it will :) | 11:53 |
| mdke | gtaylor, the infrastructure is there, I don't think it will be a problem | 11:53 |
| froud | that is what docteam.ubuntu.com is for | 11:54 |
| froud | or planned so | 11:54 |
| gtaylor | any word on it? | 11:54 |
| mdke | froud, planned by who? | 11:54 |
| froud | discusse din the list | 11:55 |
| squinn | svn?! | 11:55 |
| mdke | yes | 11:55 |
| mdke | squinn, we have some pages on the wiki, you can get lots of info there about the team | 11:55 |
| mdke | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam | 11:55 |
| squinn | ok ty | 11:55 |
| gtaylor | did we have a listing of docteam members somewhere? I was looking but couldn't find it | 11:55 |
| mdke | gtaylor, not to my knowledge | 11:56 |
| mdke | gtaylor, except in svn | 11:56 |
| gtaylor | guess it's not a big deal | 11:56 |
| squinn | it sounds like cvs access in gentoo | 11:56 |
| squinn | <3 chatzilla | 11:57 |
| gtaylor | svn is a replacement for cvs basically | 11:57 |
| squinn | ah okay | 11:57 |
| gtaylor | lots of similarities | 11:57 |
| squinn | well i'm over friends house in windows | 11:57 |
| gtaylor | I'm sorry :) | 11:57 |
| mdke | squinn, the repo is http: anyhow, you can have a look | 11:58 |
| squinn | lol gtaylor and okay mdke | 11:58 |
| gtaylor | I'm about to kill this CD burner, k3b is not liking it :) | 12:01 |
| froud | mdke: who is leading the meeting | 12:01 |
| mdke | no idea | 12:01 |
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