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=== Topic (#ubuntu): set by Seveas at Tue Jun 14 22:04:00 2005
(Bisclaveret/#ubuntu) i'm using ubuntu 4.10 warty currently. the other thing is that my backup for win2kpro i have, i found out i didn't do right, and forgot to make it bootable as well. nice way to figure that out when your sister's boyfriend starts playing with the circuitbreakers and shuts power to the computer when your defragging :p12:27
(pfp/#ubuntu) exactly, once you get past that dev= phase and the frustration from the fact that -scanbus doesn't work...12:27
(synd/#ubuntu) LinuxJones: i installed gdesklets-data too12:27
(Bisclaveret/#ubuntu) heh12:27
cthulfuegopfp: Well, dev=/dev/hdc it is, then.12:27
pestilencepfp: why doesn't -scanbus work?12:28
ChrisCFAnyone know a decent DVD recording tool that doesn't require me to find 5GB of free HD space before writing the disc?12:28
pestilencepfp: i thought that even for atapi cdroms you could do something like cdrecord dev=ATAPI -scanbus12:28
pfpwtf, since when has dev=/dev/hdc worked?12:28
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pfppestilence: i didn't bother to find out, after i found k3b :)P12:29
pestilencehehe12:29
pestilencek3b is nice.12:29
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ChrisCFAnyone at all know of one?12:29
pestilenceChrisCF: growisofs12:29
pfpChrisCF: btw, if you can afford the kde libs, k3b can burn on the fly12:29
concept10Are any true type fonts in the repos?12:29
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mcquaidi thought latest baker could burn on the fly and supports bin/cue12:30
ChrisCFpfp: If by that you mean "it doesn't need 5GB of HD space per disc", then I can probably afford the space12:30
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pfpChrisCF: trust me ;)12:30
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cthulfuegoWell, k3b uses cdrecord.12:31
ChrisCFwell, this is kind of important12:31
pestilenceChrisCF: are you trying to make a data dvd?12:31
ChrisCFyes12:31
ChrisCFI'm stuck on a 6.4GB HD12:32
pestilenceChrisCF: definitely check out growisofs.12:32
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Bisclaveretum. that's odd12:32
ChrisCFso writing 5GB image file is not really an option12:32
pfpChrisCF: of course you need a little more horsepower to skip the image creation phase, no matter what program you use12:32
Bisclavereti can't eject my cdrom drive with the eject button on the case12:32
mcquaidi checked checked the latest cvs checkout of gnomebaker support on the fly and bin cue12:32
mcquaidwhich is what hoary uses12:32
pestilenceChrisCF: growisofs doesn't require any extra space.12:32
mcquaider i just checked12:32
pestilenceBisclaveret: that's because it's mounted.12:32
pestilenceBisclaveret: right click on the icon on the desktop and click unmount or eject.12:33
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ChrisCFpfp: Will a Duron 850 and a 4x DVD recorder cut it?12:33
ChrisCF(RAM+swap = 600MB)12:33
pfpChrisCF: i think so12:34
thechitowncubsIs it possible to resize an NTFS partition?12:34
ChrisCFNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO112:34
pestilencethechitowncubs: yes.12:34
ChrisCFMore fucking ringtone adverts12:34
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cthulfuegoChrisCF: You can always burn at 2X.12:34
Bisclaverethrm. works12:34
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Bisclaveretactually, i typed eject in a terminal12:35
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ChrisCFcthulfuego: That'll do - it's not like I've got anything better to do for an hour :)12:35
pestilenceBisclaveret: that works too12:35
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Madeye0 */1 * * * every hour ?12:35
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pfpMadeye: yep12:35
pestilencewhy the /112:35
pestilence* would work just fine.12:36
pfpgood point12:36
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kangpehHey guys ;)12:36
Madeyepestilence,  0 * * * * == 0 */1 * * * ?12:36
thechitowncubsDoes the Installer have a NTFS resizer12:36
kangpehI got 2 powerful questions that I hope to find the answers to.12:36
pestilenceMadeye: yes.12:36
kangpeh1) How can I have different backgrounds on my virtual desktop?12:36
ChrisCFYuck.  All the text is so huge12:37
kangpeh2) You know when choosing a background, there is an image preview.  How can I have that image preview in the FireFox upload/file chooser dialog box?12:37
ChrisCFNormally I have trouble with small text, but this is just *too* big12:37
cthulfuegokangpeh: 1) With a little script and xsetroot.12:37
Bisclavereti'm assuming K3B won't work on ubuntu :/12:37
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Seveas1) Not12:37
seth_kkangpeh: or switch to KDE :D12:37
SeveasBisclaveret, it will12:37
ChrisCFBisclaveret: Why?12:37
pfpChrisCF: kcontrol allows you to tweak kde apps' fonts etc12:37
kangpehI can't use KDE... it's too slow :(12:37
^thehatsrule^Bisclaveret: it can12:37
cthulfuegoSeveas: liar!12:37
Seveas2) neither12:37
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kangpehMy box is only AMD AthlonXP 2000; it can't handle KDE:(12:37
Seveascthulfuego, enlighten me :012:37
seth_kkangpeh: O_O12:37
Seveas:)12:37
pestilencebahahahahahaha12:37
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BisclaveretSeveas: there's no sources for non-KDE 3.0, and theres no debian binaries or apt gets for anything beyond woody/sarge :/12:38
seth_kkangpeh, I'm running Kubuntu on a 2000+ right now... I've run it on a 400MHz box!12:38
kangpehAnd I'm just too comfortable with Gnome O_O12:38
ChrisCFpfp: Yes, but that means going and getting the rest of fucking KDE :P12:38
pestilencekangpeh: kde runs ok on my celeron 300 mhz12:38
thechitowncubsDoes the Installer have a NTFS resizer12:38
kangpehseth_k:  O_O12:38
cthulfuegoSeveas: You can rotate through a bunch of backgrounds in a directory via a bash script and xsetroot.12:38
kangpehseth_K:  why is it slow for me then T_T12:38
SeveasBisclaveret, k3b is in ubuntu12:38
ChrisCFWhy are there always so many Germans in the credits of KDE programs?12:38
seth_kkangpeh... it's smoking fast12:38
kangpehseth_K:  but gnome is crazy fast :O12:38
Seveascthulfuego, read the question again please...12:38
kangpehwhen i click on firefox12:38
kangpehit pops up in an instant in gnome12:38
gahani've successfuly bind my multimedia keys but they dont work well. for ex. they cant run opera which is my default browser according to /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser or they wont skip tracks in xmms. they arent for use with xmms?!12:38
kangpehwhen i click on firefox in kde12:38
^thehatsrule^lol ChrisCF :P12:38
kangpehit takes like 5-10 seconds12:38
seth_kheh12:38
Seveashe said: different backgrounds on differnet Virtual Desktops12:38
cthulfuegoSeveas: Stop confusing me with your logic!12:38
seth_kno idea12:38
pfplol12:38
cthulfuegoSeveas: Write a handler that switches backgrounds when you switch desktops? ;-)12:39
cthulfuegoSeveas: He didn't ask for a _simple_ solution ;-)12:39
Seveasgrin :)12:39
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pestilencethechitowncubs: yes, it does12:39
cthulfuegokangpeh: AN Athlon2000+ runs kd just fine, btw. Unless you have 128Mb ram.12:40
seth_khaha, pwn12:40
ChrisCFWhere in k3b is the "don't whore my HD space" option?12:40
Bisclaveretseveas: where?12:40
pestilencethechitowncubs: when you install you can change the size of ntfs partitions12:40
SeveasChrisCF, it's called aptitude uninstall k3b :)12:40
cthulfuegoChrisCF: When you go to burn, there's an option to not make an iso first.12:40
transgressChrisCF: use on the fly12:40
bobbydhi, I have a weird situation. I added a group and added my user to it, but after logging out and in again, i dont see it when I type 'groups'. If i run 'sudo groups rob' I can see it. Anyone know what's going on here?12:40
SeveasBisclaveret, simply apt-get install k3b12:40
transgressyeah that not to make an iso first is on the fly i believe12:40
ChrisCFlol, lol, and fucking lol :)12:40
BisclaveretReading Package Lists... Done12:41
BisclaveretBuilding Dependency Tree... Done12:41
BisclaveretE: Couldn't find package k3b12:41
kangpeh:(12:41
SeveasBisclaveret, enable network downloads...12:41
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kangpehwhat do you guys use12:41
kangpehGnome or KDE12:41
SeveasGnome12:41
^thehatsrule^i use fluxbox12:41
^thehatsrule^:P12:41
Seveasand sometimes XFCE12:41
^thehatsrule^faster than all :P12:41
cthulfuegokangpeh: That's not relevant to your issue.12:41
transgressthis is #ubuntu... so it's going to be overwhelmingly gnome in here12:41
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kangpehis KDE better than Gnome, please explain what multimedial/looks benefits/ USE/features i will get12:41
kangpehto using KDE, please12:41
transgressbut if you go to #kubuntu it'll be different12:41
kangpehbecause for me hte most important is ease of use, good looks, benefits, features, etc...12:41
transgresskangpeh: it's a matter of taste12:41
Seveaskangpeh, it's mainly a matter of taste12:41
^thehatsrule^kangpeh, just look on the net for lists of them12:41
^thehatsrule^really12:42
cthulfuegokangpeh: You'll get the option of puttubng didfferent backgrounds on different virtual desktops.12:42
kangpeho_o12:42
pfpkangpeh: kde is good if you want to tune, tweak and knob around12:42
[FiDO] gnome is simple but gets the job done12:42
transgressgnome... simple?  HA!12:42
^thehatsrule^nah, gnome has a lot of features too12:42
kangpehi am likin gnome though12:42
transgressblackbox is simple... or better... ion12:42
kangpehmy gnome desktop looks exactly like macOSx lol12:42
[FiDO] simple looking I meant12:42
^thehatsrule^kde is more eye-candy than anything12:42
gahani've successfuly bind my multimedia keys in GNOME but they dont work well. for ex, i cant run opera which is my default browser according to /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser or i cant skip tracks in xmms; bindings for next/prev song arent for use with xmms?12:42
transgresseh probably not exactly... kde can do the cool toolbar at the top of the screen thing like OSX... i don't recall gnome being able to do that12:42
Bisclaveretseveas: how do you do that?12:43
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Seveasbisclaveret: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto12:43
Seveasbisclaveret: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3812:43
Bisclavereti enabled all the repositories once from that beginners guide, and then had a bunch of people tell me 90% of them were unneeded and then they broke me. heh12:44
ChrisCFah, it uses growisofs12:44
[FiDO] has anyone else found the marillat repositories haven't been working12:44
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SeveasBisclaveret, eeek ubuntuguide12:44
Seveasubuntuguide is bad news12:44
Seveas[FiDO] , yes, they are malfunctioning12:44
Seveasand should not be used12:44
pfpgnome vs. kde: http://bulbasaur.ton.tut.fi/echramath/misc/desktop_enviroments/12:44
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DanielCHello. Is there a way to restart the internet connection without rebooting the whole computer? (Broadband-Cable, DHCP).12:45
[FiDO] I'm going to remove them from my list I'm tired of getting the dumb warnings12:45
SeveasDanielC, ifdown eth0 && ifup eth012:45
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tombraunOr /etc/init.d/networks restart12:45
DanielCSeveas: Thanks!12:45
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TokenBadhello...I am using pureftpd on here and want to allow people to upload files to the dir..but they can only download..and tried to find the pure-ftp.conf file without luck..any help?12:45
tombraunDoes anyone here have any experience with the 'devilspie' utility?12:46
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Seveastombraun, that is: invoke-rc.d networking restart12:46
SeveasTokenBad, dpkg -L pureftpd12:46
tombraunSeveas: STrange, works for me the other way as well.12:46
Seveastombraun, of course it does :)12:46
Seveasbut invoke-rc.d is the prferred way12:46
TokenBadSeveas, what does that do?12:47
tombraunSeveas: I'm still very new to ubuntu (and debian), so I don't know all the preferred ways...  :-)12:47
SeveasTokenBad, merely call /etc/init.d/networking but invoke-rc.d is a guaranteed stable interface whereas the internals might change12:47
tombraundevislpie, anyone? It gives me a weird error message, and I was wondering if someone could help.12:48
mcquaidanyone know of a gnome panel applet to show drive space similar to the xfce panel plugin?12:48
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TokenBadok it pulled stuff up on pure-ftpd12:48
TokenBadbut doesn't show the conf file12:48
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mcquaidi really like that feature, and was hoping there is something similar12:48
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Efwispfp, that is an apt description of the two desktops :) eye candy or utilization which is more important12:49
SeveasTokenBad, /etc/pureftpd.conf oslt12:49
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TokenBadits not there12:49
SeveasTokenBad, /etc/pure-ftpd.conf oslt12:49
Seveasor maybe it's all in /etc/defaults/pureftpd and the initscript12:49
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Seveasread the docs in /usr/share/doc/pureftpd or the pureftpd manpage...12:49
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ubunAnybody use Ubuntu for music production?12:52
ubunWhat is the best distro for that?12:52
ninwaMac OS X12:53
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ninwa:P12:53
kvidelllol12:53
lydoncan anyone tell me how I can set my wireless card to be automatically enabled on boot?  right now I have to activate it everytime I reboot12:53
karlosi use ubuntu for music production12:53
ninwalydon are you using ndiswrapper?12:53
lydonninwa: I'm not sure?  probably not.12:54
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karlosre: music production I think it's starting to get there12:55
bobbydplease, does anyone have any ideas, I'm completely at a loss to understand what's going on12:55
ninwaOh, if you arn't sure then no. No big deal. I don't know exactly, but I think you need to add a line to your Aliases in /etc/modeprob.d/ - someone PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong.12:56
ninwamodprobe*12:56
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anto9usubun: I've played about with soundtracker in ubuntu, it's quite good12:58
ninwaI like audacity, but I havn't done much with it and I'm not an audiophile.12:58
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ninwaIt seems capable.12:58
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lydonahh......... very good work ninwa12:59
lydonthank you12:59
ninwaRock on lydon :)12:59
TokenBadSeveas, any idea why ftp users might not be able to upload files to the ftp?12:59
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ninwaWoohoo update on Gaim today in the ubuntu repositories! We get 1.1.4 now boys!01:01
ninwa</sarcasm> :p01:01
syndoo the ubuntu cds are nice lookin01:01
ninwaRealy? I ordered some two days ago, still waitin on em01:01
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^thehatsrule^ya they are eh synd--01:01
syndi ordered some 3 months ago :/01:01
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syndi got 20, 15 x86, 5 ppc01:02
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cut0ffHi all01:03
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synduhh im booting into the ubuntu live cd in PPC, and the screen is split in half down the middle01:04
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syndanyone experience this?01:05
kvidell.............01:05
kvidellwhen'd THAT get turned on01:05
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deviantis there any wauy i can set up ICS on my pc, without having Firestarter run all the time ?01:06
deviant*way01:06
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BurnninatorAnyone know how to get an orinoco based wireless card working?01:06
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Burnninatorcardctl ident sees it01:07
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syndBurnninator: make sure youre eth0 internal nic is deactivated01:07
transgressman i've come to a conclusion01:08
transgressi can A) have a job01:08
Burnninatorhow do i go about that? I pulled the ethernet card out of the pcmcia slot01:08
transgressor B) have a girlfriend01:08
Burnninatorthe only one in there is the 2wire wireless card01:08
transgressi can't do both01:08
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karlos_so who does use buntu for music then01:09
karlos_anyone?01:09
Burnninatorsynd, what do i use to configure the wireless card01:09
Burnninator?01:09
syndkarlos_: xmms, rhythmbox01:09
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transgressit's like... before i was going out with this last girlfriend... was doing awesome at work... got her... started lagging behind... broke up last night... already pretty much cleared up my work for today... and i've only been working for an hour01:09
syndkarlos_: beep media player.. a few others.01:10
cthulfuegodeviant: Yes, it's a matter of one single iptables rule and a sysctl.conf entry.01:10
karlos_what about making music?01:10
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anto9uskarlos_: soundtracker01:10
anto9usI've used it, it's great01:10
Burnninatorif i type iwconfig, all it says is "no wireless extensions" next to lo, wlan0, and sit001:10
karlos_cool just been getting into sountrascker01:10
karlos_got rose garden sorted now01:11
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deviantcthulfuego: could you be more explicit pls. (i`m newbie)01:11
cthulfuegodeviant: Which device is your internet link?01:11
devianteth0 using pppoe connection01:12
cthulfuegodeviant: So ppp001:12
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deviantso i have eth0, eth1 , loopback and ppp001:13
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ChrisCFGrr.  Steven Seagull film on the telly01:14
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cthulfuegodeviant: Ok, as root: echo -e "#!/bin/sh\n/sbin/iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -j MASQUERADE" > /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/0masq; chmod 755 /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/0masq01:14
ChrisCFSeagull as in everywhere he goes he leaves a trail of shit behind him01:15
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deviantholly shit ....01:15
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deviantcthulfuego: hold on ..i want to understand why i am doing all that stuff ..01:15
cthulfuegodeviant: You *did* want a simple wau01:15
syndanyone have video problems with the LiveCD in ubuntu?01:15
syndmy screen is split in half01:15
syndand the image is mirrored01:16
cthulfuegodeviant: That creates an executable script which will be run when pppoe connects. The script adds a firewall rule which masquerades outgoing traffic (ICS, basically).01:16
deviantcthulfuego: and the firewall rules is what ?01:17
DarkWolfWhile installing, I got an error, which i thought was... rather.. strange... It said i had burnt the CD with too high speed, and i should try to burn it at a lower speed, is 12x too much then?01:17
cthulfuegodeviant: The firewall rule is "-t nat -A POSTROUTING -j MASQUERADE"01:17
cthulfuegodeviant: Oh, shit. Error!@01:18
syndwtf!01:18
cthulfuegodeviant: Ok, as root: echo -e "#!/bin/sh\n/sbin/iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE" > /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/0masq; chmod 755 /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/0masq01:18
ChrisCFWTF?01:18
deviantcthulfuego: where can i find a good tutorial about pppoe connection, iptables and  maquerading. i need to understand all this01:18
cthulfuegodeviant: Forgot the '-o ppp0'01:18
Burnninatorim reading instructions from the ubuntu wiki, and it says01:18
BurnninatorTo see if your card is working goto Computer->System Configuration->Networking01:18
ChrisCFThere's such an error as "you burned this CD too quickly"?01:18
cthulfuegodeviant: /usr/share/doc/iptables/html01:18
microhaxoguys i need major HELP installing WINE!01:18
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Burnninatorbut i don't see System configuration under Computer01:18
ChrisCFhow does the speed at which you burn a CD affect the data you burn/01:19
DarkWolfi have NO idea... but that's what it says.. right here..01:19
anto9usBurnninator: it's System | Administration | Networking01:20
Burnninatorthanks01:20
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DarkWolf"Couldn't retrieve libreadline4. This may be due to a network problem or a bad CD, depending on your installation method. If you are installing from a CD-R or CD-RW, burning the CD at a lower speed may help."01:20
cthulfuegodeviant: And in addition to that script you need to have a line that says net.ipv4.ip_forward=1  in /etc/sysctl.conf to let the kernel know it should route packets.01:20
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deviantcthulfuego: where can i find the iptable file? i wanna take a look at it01:22
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DarkWolfi've tried to format HD again, and restart, but same error... and it's a compleatly new CD, from a compleatly new download, today, from Ubuntu's own page...01:23
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deviantcthulfuego: with what aplication can i edit iptables?01:24
Burnninatoralright, under network settings, it doesn't list my wireless card01:24
Burnninatorany suggestions?01:25
DarkWolfinstalled drivers for it?01:25
deviantlol01:25
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Koaesicaat documentation page, can I view all howtos or tutorials?01:26
thenukedeviant: I am pretty sure that you want to install firestarter01:26
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naliothdeviant: try this http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=13001:27
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deviantthenuke: now i`m using it. but i`m not confortable with it runing all the time01:27
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thenukeis that not just a frontend?01:28
naliothdeviant: that newsforge article goes over serveral iptables manglers01:28
deviantthenuke: from what i`ve understood, yes, it is.01:28
deviantnalioth: thank you01:28
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thenukedeviant: yeah, it should not be hangin' around then. But check that url what nalioth gave01:29
moparfan90hello01:29
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umany001:29
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moparfan90anyone have cedega installed on there computer01:30
deviantthenuke: i`m workin` on it :)01:30
umanGoogle is down01:30
umanhow the fuck could google01:30
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umanbe down01:30
deviantthenuke: but 1st i need to understand how iptable and masquerading works01:31
moparfan90no its not01:31
umanit is here01:31
thenukedeviant: google for that01:31
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deviantis workin fine from here01:31
umanlucky01:31
umanI have to use MSN search01:31
thenukeand you really do not need to know that to use some front-ends..01:31
deviantthenuke: i`m curently reading /usr/share/doc/iptables/html/NAT-HOWTO-4.html#ss4.101:31
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ZodiacSup dawgs01:32
thenukeif you figure out how iptables work, you should not use front-ends01:32
thenukebecause it is not that complicated01:32
deviantthenuke: i know. but i`m a newbie. i don`t have any experience on linux01:32
ZodiacGuys I have totem and I can play DVDs.... but01:33
thenukeyup. iptables is not linux :)01:33
ZodiacIt is really choppy and weird01:33
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Zodiacwhat is the dilly-O01:33
Zodiac??01:33
naliothZodiac: have you enabled DMA?01:33
djm62it's snoop dogg's web browser01:33
ZodiacDMA?01:34
ZodiacI think there is some code I have to add to some file01:34
ZodiacI remember someone telling me that, but I didnt think I needed it at first01:34
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syndZodiac: sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc01:34
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cthulfuego!dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. A method of transferring data from one memory area to another without having to go through the central processing unit. It makes your hard disks run faster :-)01:35
ubotucthulfuego: okay01:35
ZodiacOkay I did it01:35
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ZodiacNow what? :)01:36
naliothZodiac: now it should be less choppy01:36
syndnow it shouldnt be choppy01:36
syndcant remember the cmd to add that to the boot process01:36
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ZodiacExcellent01:37
cthulfuegosynd: Just install hdparm and editing /etc/default/hdparm should do.01:37
ZodiacI hope you are right :)01:37
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jabra_I am trying to figure out what module is needed for us robotics 2410 with kernel 2.6.1001:39
ZodiacAnother weird problem, sometimes when I right click on files on my desktop, it locks up01:39
ubunAnybady knows what we select in the window: MULTIMEDIA SYSTEM SELECTOR?01:40
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anto9usubun: I have ESD on mine01:41
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ZodiacAny ideas?01:42
caonexanybody running a dhcp server?01:42
HrdwrBoByeah01:43
ubunA little confused having ALSA and not select ALSA, isn't it?01:43
HrdwrBoBudhcpcd01:43
HrdwrBoBer01:43
HrdwrBoBudhcpd01:43
HrdwrBoBubun: only if you know what alsa is01:43
HrdwrBoBand nto esd01:44
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ubunAlmost all the cards suing the ALSA drivers...01:44
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ubunAlmost all the cards use the ALSA drivers...01:44
jr0129i have a question how would you install something that is .src.rpm at the end?01:44
HrdwrBoBubun: correct01:45
moparfan90any one here have cedega installed on there computer?01:45
HrdwrBoBjr0129: you would tell us what it is so we could direct you to a better source01:45
HrdwrBoBmoparfan90: yes01:45
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ubunjr, I have the same question01:45
jr0129hrdwrbob: it is 3ddesktop-.02.8-1.src.rpm01:45
moparfan90hrdwrbob: is it worth the money? and how much does it cost?01:46
ubunHrdwr, So Why not elect ALSA ?01:46
ubunHrdwr, So Why not select ALSA ?01:46
HrdwrBoBmoparfan90: $15US01:46
HrdwrBoBfor me, yes01:46
moparfan90you play counter strike source01:46
HrdwrBoBubun: because esd provides multiple concurrent sounds01:46
HrdwrBoBno I don't01:46
HrdwrBoBhowever it should work perfectly01:46
moparfan90any games01:46
HrdwrBoBjr0129: just get 3ddesktop from synaptic01:47
jr0129hrdwrbob: i search synaptic and it is not in there01:47
HrdwrBoBI use it to play far cry, world of warcraft and warcraft 301:47
misfitx7has anyone installed on an ibook?01:47
naliothjr0129: have you enabled universe and multiverse?01:47
HrdwrBoBjr0129: make sure you've added the universe repository01:47
jasoncoheni'm trying to setup cron-apt to send email to my ISP's SMTP server using SSL/TLS. It worked fine w/o authentication but my ISP has recently changed its policies. I set smtp.comcast.net;username:password in /etc/exim4/passwd.client and I also setup exim4 to use smtp.comcast.net as the smarthost but i get connection timed out messages01:47
naliothmisfitx7: yes01:47
HrdwrBoBmisfitx7: yes people have01:47
moparfan90do they work better on linx then on windows?01:47
ubunThan, what we select in the window: MULTIMEDIA SYSTEM SELECTOR?01:48
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jasoncohenany ideas?01:48
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jr0129hrdwrbob: i don't believe i have. Do you know what it is?01:48
HrdwrBoBubun: esd01:48
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HrdwrBoBjr0129: in the 'sections' area01:48
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HrdwrBoBadd 'universe'01:48
naliothjr0129: www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats01:48
HrdwrBoBin addition to 'main'01:48
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misfitx7nalioth: how did you boot it? can you boot holding control on boot?01:49
naliothmisfitx7: are you asking about the install CD? what mac are you using?01:49
HrdwrBoBjasoncohen: maybe it's trying to connect on the secure SMTP port by default01:49
misfitx7ibook 80001:49
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faresHow can I set file associations? example: I want .avi files to play in VLC not totem.01:49
jasoncohenHrdwrBoB, i want it to use SSL on port 465. I can't connect unless SSL is used. it won't send my login/pass in the clear obviously01:50
misfitx7i mean, how do you boot it once its installed01:50
ubunHrd, OK. I couldnt understand the existence of others options01:50
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faresanyone? :)01:51
concept10what do you guys use for password management01:51
seth_krevelation01:52
concept10seth_k, revelation for pwds?01:52
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pinkonothing except opera, for the web01:52
naliothmisfitx7: it should have installed yaboot01:52
seth_kindeed, concept 1001:52
seth_khttp://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=revelation01:52
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naliothconcept10: my organic memory01:53
seth_kI believe there is a newer version in backports01:53
seth_kif not, let me know, and I'll backport it for you01:53
naliothbackports cause system instability01:53
microhaxocan someone tell me how to install java?01:54
concept10nalioth, im getting old, memory is starting to fade. i cant even remember what distro im using01:54
naliothmicrohaxo: there is a good article on www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ on just that subject01:54
seth_knalioth, not if you don't backport libs01:54
naliothconcept10: then the wood and charcoal/graphite and dead tree products will help01:55
moparfan90does anyone here use cedega?01:55
HrdwrBoBmoparfan90: I already said that I did01:55
moparfan90o.01:55
microhaxoit dont work01:55
naliothseth_k: but how many n00bs are gonna enable bp, get the one thing they want,and then disable bp?01:55
seth_kvery true, nalioth01:55
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moparfan90i didnt see your name on the list i thought you left01:55
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HrdwrBoBthere's something like 300 people in this channel01:56
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jr0129how would i end a process (by process name) using the terminal?01:56
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HrdwrBoBjr0129: killall programname01:56
concept10have you guys heard of this site: http://klik.atekon.de/01:56
odie5533Anyone here use Glade?01:56
naliothHrdwrBoB: and how many are at home asleep?01:56
HrdwrBoBnalioth: a lot :)01:57
nomasteryoda|wjr0129, if you know part of the program name, type01:57
jr0129hrdwrbob: thank you01:57
nomasteryoda|wps ax | grep name01:57
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ubunAnybody uses the AGNULA distro?01:57
thechitowncubsHow reliable is the NTFS resizing?01:58
thechitowncubsI don't want to ruin any data01:58
thechitowncubsI'm installing linux on my sisters friends computer and I need to resize the NTFS partition01:58
DarkWolfyou ask this in a Linux channel thechitowncubs?01:58
HrdwrBoBDarkWolf: it's on topic01:58
HrdwrBoBthechitowncubs: I'm led to believe it's fine, though I haven't done it personally01:59
thechitowncubsYes, because I am installing linux01:59
moparfan90good. linux is alot better then any other01:59
nomasteryoda|wthechitowncubs, make sure you backup critical data/programs01:59
thechitowncubsok, i will01:59
concept10thechitowncubs, make sure you back up important data.  Resizing is safe with backup01:59
DarkWolfdidn't say it wasen't.. but i'll stfu :)01:59
nomasteryoda|w=)01:59
binbrainfares: anybody answer your question?01:59
nalioththechitowncubs: i don't touch ntfs. <<<that is a period02:00
jr0129what is the syntax for using xterm?02:00
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thechitowncubsI wouldn't either, but its my sitseters friend02:01
HrdwrBoBjr0129: what do you mean02:01
nalioththechitowncubs: do your sis' friend a favor, and clean the filth off the machine02:01
nomasteryoda|wwhen i try to upgrade the kernel using updates, I get an error about ndiswrapper.ko ... how do i update02:02
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nomasteryoda|wdo i need to remove the ndiswrapper before it will install?02:02
jr0129hrdwrbob: for setting up a keybinding to run a command from a terminal i believe you would type xterm and then the command correct or is the syntax wrong?02:02
ubunAnybody uses the AGNULA distro?02:02
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concept10Is there anyway to access Ubuntu's hardware data base?02:03
HrdwrBoBjr0129: I would recommend using gnome-terminal02:04
HrdwrBoBbut yeah02:04
cthulfuegoconcept10: How do you mean?02:04
HrdwrBoBjr0129: what you want is gnome-terminal -e command02:04
jr0129hrdwrbob: what would be the line for that/02:04
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jr0129hrdwrbob: thank you once again02:04
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concept10cthulfuego, I want to see the information that Ubuntu has collected, is that accessible?02:05
cthulfuegoconcept10: Ah, no idea.02:05
HrdwrBoBjr0129: be aware though if you're starting a noninteractive program it could run and close the window straight away02:05
faresbinbrain no. no one answered my question02:05
HrdwrBoBbecause that window will close when the program does02:05
D1does anyone know if there is a ubuntu irc channel for laptops?02:05
odie5533how do I include header files when compiling with gcc?02:05
cthulfuegoD1: You're on it.02:05
naliothD1: not that i know, whats your question?02:05
D1oh ok.02:05
HrdwrBoBodie5533: I think you need to either ask a different question, or choose a different channel02:06
cthulfuegoodie5533: You add #include "foo.h" statements to the source.02:06
D1well, its more of a kernel question but I'm wondering what the status of the smart battery implementation is in the latest patch kernel.02:06
D1its the only thing I can't get working in ubuntu or any other distro.02:06
HrdwrBoBodie5533: sorry that came across badly, but if you're learning how to develop things, probably a channel based on that would be more appropriate02:06
naliothD1: that went over my head so high, i don't even know you asked a question....lol02:07
nomasteryoda|wHrdwrBoB, is there a way to make the bluetooth mouse keep it's settings ... with screensaver activates, it disconnnects the mouse02:07
HrdwrBoBnomasteryoda|w: that would be irritating I imagine02:08
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jr0129hrdwrbob: what is the command for ending a process by it's process name02:09
misfit-toyD1, smart battery works fine here02:10
D1anyone know any news about smart battery support in the kernel?02:10
D1what kernel version?02:10
cthulfuegoD1: Never heard of it, sorry.02:10
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HrdwrBoBjr0129: killall processname02:11
jabra_can anyone help me install a wireless card, I think it uses prism02:11
jabra_u.s. robotics 241002:12
syndjabra_: my us robotics worked right out of the box02:12
syndjabra_: but im not sure what the model number is. it was a PCMCIA car02:12
syndd02:12
jabra_ya02:13
jabra_I dunno02:13
D1misfit-toy: what kernel version are you running?02:13
jabra_kernel 2.6.1002:13
jabra_synd: ya I am not sure if it is prism orinoco or what02:14
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jr0129hrdwrbob: by any chance i have one more question and that is pertaining to configuring apm into my kernel so that i have power management on my computer i run apm and it says the support isn't built into the kernel02:16
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HrdwrBoBjr0129: ACPI is enabled by default and is better than apm in almost every way02:17
HrdwrBoBwhich is why apm isn't in your kernel02:17
jr0129hrdwrbob: ok thank you02:17
jr0129hrdwrbob: how do i configure the setting in it?02:17
HrdwrBoBwhat do you want to change02:18
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jr0129hrdwrbob: when my computer goes to stand by and such like that i want to see what the times are on that02:18
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tbermani have installed the langpack-base-th, and i run an app with LANG="th_TH.UTF-8", but the gtk+ stock buttons stay normal, do i have to change anything?02:19
jonerlinghow to install deb files?02:19
Randallany one have ane ppc exeriance?02:19
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Randallany02:19
faresjonerling: apt-get install <package name>02:19
cthulfuegoRandall: yep.02:20
moparfan90anyon have very good software that you think is worth using for linux02:20
moparfan90anyone**02:20
cthulfuegomoparfan90: 'vim'02:20
Randallcthulfuego, I have a power mac 6500 and I can't get it to boot of the cd02:20
cthulfuegoRandall: Correct.02:20
jonerlingfares: i got the deb file on my desktop02:20
Randallcthulfuego, so what do I do any suggestions?02:21
HrdwrBoBjr0129: hrm I'm not sure02:21
cthulfuegoRandall: You're going to need either a floppy or a small MacOS partition with a small amount of free space.02:21
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moparfan90cthulfuego: whats VIM02:21
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jr0129hrdwrbob: do you know any way to control the power setting on the computer?02:21
concept10Anyone here have laptop with P4 Speedstep?02:21
cthulfuegoRandall: The latter (MacOS install) is by far the easier option.02:21
Randallok02:21
HrdwrBoBjr0129: you can change various things in /proc/02:21
moparfan90cthulfuego: whats VIM02:22
Randallcthulfuego, tried to install bootx is that right?02:22
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cthulfuegoRandall: Yep.02:22
cthulfuegoRandall: But you will need to _keep_ MacOS on there to bootstrap via BootX each time.02:22
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jr0129hrdwrbob: where in /proc/ and also how do i see what the system recognizes my harddrive as for instance see if it is hda2 or whatever02:22
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Epixis there any good music recording/editing software for linux? opensource, of course :)02:23
HrdwrBoBtype 'dmesg' and it lists all the kernel messages02:23
cthulfuegoRandall: it's a bit of a PITA, but once it's working, it'll keep working :-)02:23
HrdwrBoByou'll probably want dmesg|less02:23
Randallcthulfuego, thats fine the only prob is I don't have internet or a cd burner for that mechine I have to burn files off my intel linux mechine and it thinks all the files a text02:23
cthulfuegomoparfan90: vim is an editor.02:23
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moparfan90how do you install limewire on ubuntu???02:23
moparfan90 cthulfuego: for what02:23
Epixmoparfan90, you dont, pirate02:23
cthulfuegoRandall: aiyee.02:23
BROKEN_LADDERack..02:24
BROKEN_LADDERi'm trying to compile a plug-in for gaim and i get this error:02:24
BROKEN_LADDERchecking for glib-2.0 >= 2.4 gtk+-2.0 >= 2.4 gaim >= 1.0... Package gaim was not found in the pkg-config search path.02:24
cthulfuegoRandall: if you download .hqx files, you can burn them and then use stuffit expander.02:24
moparfan90 Epix: moparfan90, you dont, pirate// what! how do you install limewire on ubuntu??02:24
cthulfuegomoparfan90: I thought you wanted _good_ software?02:25
Randallcthulfuego, ok that sounds like a plan will try02:25
Randallcthulfuego, thanks for all the help02:25
HrdwrBoBEpix: yes, there is one, it has heaps of features and its name escapes me for a minute02:25
HrdwrBoBBROKEN_LADDER: you will need the gaim-dev package02:25
cthulfuegoRandall: Good luck :-)02:25
moparfan90i do. what do you mean?02:25
cthulfuegomoparfan90: last I checked limewire was crap software.02:25
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moparfan90ok. whats a good p2p software hen fo linux02:26
jr0129how do i view my partitions?02:26
cthulfuegojr0129: fdisk -l02:26
dockaneping02:26
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cthulfuegomoparfan90: bittorrent works fine02:26
uc50ic4moremoparfan90 - GTK-Gnutella, IIRC, is in one of the repositories02:26
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BROKEN_LADDERHrdwrBoB you're a genius.02:27
uc50ic4moremoparfan90, there is also a DirectConnect client in there somewhere too02:27
moparfan90whats the link for bitorent?02:27
HrdwrBoBI know02:27
moparfan90uc50ic4more: in where02:27
cthulfuegomoparfan90: There is no link, it's installed by default.02:27
Quozlhelp, gave a friend a 5.04 cd, she's installed it, now she wants to know how to connect to the internet via dialup modem 56k, where is this documented?02:27
moparfan90o02:27
jr0129cthulfuego: it doesn't show my internal harddrive it only shows my external the root system is on the internal though02:27
cthulfuegoQuozl: She can run pppconfig from a terminal.02:28
Randallcthulfuego, your going to hate me its look like a mac os 7 and don't seem to have stuff it installed02:28
EpixHrdwrBoB, remember it now :P?02:28
BROKEN_LADDERnow it's workin02:28
cthulfuegoQuozl: if she's got a winmodem though... you're in for PAIN.02:28
Quozlcthulfuego: oh, so just like debian, eh?  kppp or gnome ppp available?02:28
cthulfuegoRandall: Ey? OS7 should be fine.02:28
moparfan90how do you download with bittorent???02:28
cthulfuegoQuozl: I expect so... not sure, haven't used dialup since last year in Brazil <heh>02:28
EpixHrdwrBoB, is it called jack?02:29
cthulfuegomoparfan90: What are you wanting to download?02:29
Quozlcthulfuego: thanks.  will try suggesting that sequence.02:29
HrdwrBoBEpix: JACK is a backend plugin thingo02:29
Randallcthulfuego, I bunred the hqx file and still sees it as a text file02:29
moparfan90anything. mostly music02:29
cthulfuegoRandall: Is stiffut expander installed?02:29
cthulfuegoRandall: Uh, stuffit even02:29
moparfan90how do i search for stuff then d/l02:29
Randallcthulfuego,  don't look like it02:29
cthulfuegomoparfan90: You can download music from music sites. if you're after copyrighted material, you're in the wrong channel.02:30
cthulfuegoRandall: Crud, then I fear you're stuck.02:30
moparfan90ok. well how do i search for legal software with bittorent02:30
zythRandall, you will need stuffit expander from aladdin systems or whatever.02:31
EpixHrdwrBoB, is it called rosegarden?02:31
cthulfuegomoparfan90: You search for legal misic via google and then make sure it has a torrent download.02:31
cthulfuegozyth: That's not going to be useful.02:31
moparfan90o02:31
zythcthulfuego, oh? my bad02:31
HrdwrBoBEpix: there's many02:31
cthulfuegozyth: You need 1) A net conenction. 2) OSX and 3) OS8.6 or higher.02:31
HrdwrBoBEpix: ardour02:31
zythohh.02:31
zythErm yes.02:31
cthulfuegozyth: Aladdin (now renamed) don't make life easy for old amc users.02:32
zythcthulfuego, well that sucks :(02:32
ubunI cant run xmms I get the message:Sound server informational message:02:32
ubunError while initializing the sound driver:02:32
ubundevice: default can't be opened for playback (Device or resource busy)02:32
cthulfuegozyth: I had to go and dig around for a jaz disk!!!! with an old backup.02:32
Randallcthulfuego, thanks again02:32
ubunWhat can I do?02:32
cthulfuegoRandall: np.02:32
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cthulfuegozyth: Oh, a 4) You need an older expander to expand the new download.02:33
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cthulfuegozyth: But 5) not too old, because the formats have changed.02:33
HillTopHas Ubuntu started mailing the Hoary CD packages? I know it was a while after Warty released that it was mailed. Thanks02:33
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seth_kHillTop, if you got Warty CDs, you will be the last to get Hoary CDs02:33
seth_kHillTop, people who didn't get Warty get Hoary first02:34
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seth_kHillTop, however I heard yesterday that some people who had Warty just received Hoary, so shouldn't be long :)02:34
thechitowncubsI just got my cds :)02:34
thechitowncubsand i've already given away a lot of em02:34
HrdwrBoBmine have not arrived yet02:34
thechitowncubsthey should have a distribution center in the US02:35
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HillTopThat is OK, I have folk who are interested but they can wait. :)   I installed Hoary but only after a few tried -- my downloads had errors.02:35
moparfan90are there any p2p software out there for ubuntu other then bittorent02:35
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mic_yes limewire for one02:35
cthulfuegomoparfan90: Check the manual for 'apt-cache' and see the 'search' option.02:35
HillTopYes, my Warty s werer mailed from USA.02:35
yaaarword02:36
moparfan90how do you install limewire in ubunutu02:36
thechitowncubsgtk-gnutella02:36
thechitowncubsmoparfan90: sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutela02:36
moparfan90whats that mean02:36
thechitowncubssudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella  **02:36
thechitowncubsthat is how you install it02:36
moparfan90is that a virus02:37
HrdwrBoBno02:37
HrdwrBoBit's not02:37
moparfan90it lie sh limewire.sh or something02:37
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HrdwrBoBit's a program that's functionally equivalent02:37
Guerinmoparfan90: don't bother with lamewire.02:37
mic_it is the instruction to install gnutell02:37
J35U5yeah i use gtk-gnutella. its awesome.02:37
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thechitowncubsyep, me too :)02:38
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moparfan90where do i type that? in konsole02:38
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mic_terminal moparfan02:38
moparfan90what do i type exactly02:38
Randallcthulfuego, last question I sware02:39
mic_sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella     moparfan02:39
Randallcthulfuego, whwat nic card would work out of the box with np02:39
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moparfan90it didn't work02:40
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J35U5moparfan90, you can get it with synaptic as well.02:41
yaaarhrmf02:41
yaaarstupid xchat02:41
yaaarcrashed when i changed fonts02:41
moparfan90how...02:41
zythweird02:41
ironmcanyone know how to play MP3's  with Ubuntu?02:42
Guerinmoparfan90: what didn't work about it?02:42
J35U5open synaptic and search gtk gnutella02:42
zythironmc, install xmms?02:42
J35U5ironmc, xmms02:42
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mic_xmms player ironmc02:42
ironmcxmms is for KDE??02:42
moparfan90wheres synaptic .02:42
thechitowncubsno...02:43
moparfan90how do i open02:43
thechitowncubsmoparfan90: are you kidding?02:43
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moparfan90Guerin:: i dont kow i said cant find file02:43
thechitowncubsSystem>Administration>Synaptic02:43
moparfan90o. im a nOOb02:43
mic_system,administartion  moparfan02:43
mic_me too I've been using linux a week02:43
J35U5ohh he needs to set it up to search univers02:43
moparfan90ok. its open now hat02:44
tonyHow can I reset my Gnome back to the default panel?02:44
moparfan90what*02:44
thechitowncubsI don't know how thats going to get done ;)02:44
tonyI'm refering to the Gnome panel with the Gnome logo...02:44
zythI need more eyecandy in my ubuntu, I have way too many free system resources.02:45
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vinuxzyiro, hehe02:45
thechitowncubszyth: gDesklets :)02:45
vinuxzyth, hehe02:45
moparfan90ok. its open noww hat02:45
thechitowncubssearch it mo02:45
thechitowncubsuse your brain02:45
mic_don't make others do all the thinking02:46
moparfan90hey. be nice02:46
Guerinhey. be smart.02:46
zythgDesklets? is this like Konfabulator?02:46
moparfan90what i it caled?02:46
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thechitowncubszyth: ya, its a desklets daemon, works good.02:46
zythfunky02:46
thechitowncubstry it out02:46
thechitowncubsits in universe02:47
zythyeah, I see it here in synaptic02:47
zythok :)02:47
deshantmtony, what do you want to do?02:47
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zythCedega works too well :/  I'd rather have Linux versions of games, but I can understand why companies wouldn't bother...02:48
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moparfan90cedega work good fo you?02:49
zythyep02:49
moparfan90games run with low png02:49
moparfan90ping/02:49
yaaard3d support is all good?02:49
mic_I could use a link for mounting   /dev/hda6  please02:50
yaaarmic_, a link? what file type is it?02:50
mic_its a drive02:50
mic_how does one mount a partition02:50
D1anyone know how to apply the kernel prepatch to 2.6.x kernel? I tried patch -p1 but doesn't work.02:50
moparfan90bye02:50
yaaarmic_, just 'mnt /dev/hda6 /mnt/whereyouwanttomountit' doesn't work?02:50
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yaaarahoot02:50
mic_tried with no success02:51
yaaarmic_, uh...sorry.... 'mount /dev/hda6 /mnt/mountpoint'02:51
D1I do patch -p1 patchname in the linux source directory02:51
mic_thanks I'll give it a go02:51
tiglionabbitmic_: make sure you create the directory you want to mount it to first02:52
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mic_righto I think lol] 02:52
tiglionabbitlater you can add it to fstab to make it mount on startup02:53
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Burnninatoranyone know what package contains lex?02:55
mic_ty all cya later02:56
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zythAnyone know any good free music sites of the legal variety that don't have crap?02:56
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Epixhow do i run a tcl script?02:56
thechitowncubsmp3.com was free?02:56
zyththechitowncubs, yeah, it had a huge archive sorted by music type, lots of free downloads, or you could buy cds, etc.02:57
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thechitowncubswow02:58
djsBurnninator: looks like "flex" does02:58
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Epixhow do i make a var in tcl?03:02
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deshantmEpix, did you try searching on google... I don't know tcl03:03
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adapti hate all windowmanagers03:04
vinuxhey guys how can I get a list of all the pkgs that's on the ubuntu servers?03:04
adaptsynaptic03:04
zythadapt, get evilwm03:04
vinuxadapt, k thanks03:04
zyththen you can at least hate an evil one ;)03:04
adaptzyth i used it for along time on my ibook actually03:05
zythoh ok03:05
zythlol03:05
vinuxzyth, there is a evil wm?03:05
adapti did like it, but im out of my minimalistic phase03:05
vinuxzyth, does it treat you bad?03:05
adaptwindowmaker is the only thing i like anymore03:06
adaptand i dont even like it that much03:06
sighttp://www.6809.org.uk/evilwm/03:06
zythI dont' use it03:06
zythvinux, it's got 1mm window borders and is generally 'minimalist-from-hell'03:06
imposter_botevil as in no window decorations03:06
zythand it'll abuse your pets03:07
zyth;)03:07
adaptif you get good with it though, it can be pretty damn productive03:07
imposter_botyeah, that cat looks seriously abused03:07
imposter_botyou can also be pretty damn productive in fluxbox03:07
imposter_botor gnome03:07
imposter_bot;>03:07
pinkofluxbox is pretty spiffy03:07
adapti used fluxbox for about 2 years. i like pekwm more than fluxbox though03:08
zytheh, I don't like having to manually configure menus, and in flux I tend to have to03:08
vinuxzyth, hmmm its openbox good?03:08
vinuxzyth, is03:08
zythvinux, have never used it03:08
Guerinopenbox is the shit03:08
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pinkoI hardly ever use the menus03:09
imposter_bothttp://fluxbox.org/zoom.php?themes/contrib/rj_daft.jpg03:09
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imposter_botI remember that was my theme of choice03:09
adaptopenbox is pretty cool03:09
vinuxGuerin, yea but I had problems keeping the background on when I boot up and also adding things to the menu. If you not carefull it locks you out03:09
pinkowhat does openbox do?03:09
twisterMy Problem is that I cannot light the computer03:09
twisterIt continues beeping and he will not stop03:09
twisterI am flustered as tones go on and my computer is connected up. In fact the noise of lthe is problem since inundation.03:10
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adaptvinux: locks you out?03:10
twisterThere is somebody is the room of dialogue which knows answers. I am no good when the computer begins throwing sparks03:10
Guerinpinko: not much. Window borders, decorations and a right-click menu with all your stuff in it.03:10
vinuxadapt, I lose the menu hehe03:10
adapttwister: wtf are you talking about03:10
zythtwister, xset beep off? I dunno lol03:10
Guerintwister: plug the machine out and send it back for a service.03:11
twisterI have problems traslating as I am not English03:11
zythOMG I have a floppy drive03:11
zythI didn't even know that.03:11
pinkoinundation03:11
zythhey there IS one.03:11
zythscary, gnome showed me something I didn't even realise :/03:12
unifihi...would anyone be interested in writing a how-to for my linux blog?03:12
twisterMain problem is that tones make it so I cannot see electronic mail and represent my sister sent me03:12
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twisterI must send transmission e-mail it as marriage is next Thursday03:13
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thechitowncubsWOOHOO03:13
thechitowncubsNTFS resize was flawless03:13
adapttwister.. what is your native language?03:14
twisterWho can sell that doesn' t spark and simple percentage not flooded with viruses like current one has me new hard drive03:14
pinkowow.03:14
thechitowncubshaha03:14
eruinthat was  a long stream of words03:14
thechitowncubsi think that was a long RIVER of words03:15
djsvinux: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/allpackages03:15
eruinI wonder what he means03:15
eruin:p03:15
thechitowncubsya, now im curious03:15
thechitowncubs:)03:15
twisterI speak a variation of the language which I learnt between my time in the Caribbean03:16
pinkoyour translator is committing terrible acts of vengeance for something.03:16
zythwell it lives in PA.03:16
adapttwister: NATIVE language03:17
eruinsweet jane03:17
adaptwhere are you from03:17
twisterI use the free translation software to help my to solve crimes on my hard disk throwing sparks03:17
adapthahah03:17
eruinthat sounds serious03:17
zythI am from the place where the innundation of sparking viruses does not overflow my hard disk03:17
zyth:P03:17
eruinmy graphics card is the closes to "throwing sparks" in here03:17
adapthis harddrive is litterally on fire and he is worried about sending an email03:17
eruinseeing as its fan just came off :o03:17
pinkoI wonder what he typed that came out as "throwing sparks"03:18
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twisterIf I buy a graphic card will go it to make send to my poor sister e-mail the husband of which is a being on drugs of coke03:18
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eruinhaha03:19
adaptlike a soap opera03:19
eruinor a variation of dude, where's my car03:19
pinkoI no longer buy the story, but it's funny.03:19
eruinfor geeks03:19
zythonly a GeForce 6800GT could get THAT email through03:19
senraHi, I'm a newcomer to Ubuntu. Does anybody know how to change  into cedilha ?03:19
adapti concur03:19
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twisterWhere make I am going to accept a French eloquent hard disk without virus03:19
adaptno french people allowed03:20
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yaaarno, french *people* are fine. it's those french *hard drives* that we don't want around03:21
adaptheh03:22
DarkWolftwister, i have no idea what you are saying man...03:22
transgressso i think Mandrake is slowly working on becoming "Mandriculous"03:22
twisterIt is absolutly no helps... I need a lesson in the abduction of jetants hard disks of the sparks.... I do not love French people the one or other one help please I have 1 computer and the electronic mail of the sister is left without other connection there. I laugh at six daily oclock as the computer rinitialisations and I tore off my player of CD03:22
transgressthey bought up some of Lycoris now03:22
transgressi'm telling you... it's gonna happen03:22
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transgressyou do not love French people?  wtf not!?03:22
bbktwister - are you there?03:22
twisteroh not the police came to take my sister03:23
pinkoI hope you give a toast at this wedding.03:23
vinuxtransgress, well it's a good OS but they make it known they want some money :)03:23
pinkowith sparks and stuff.03:23
twisterbbk.... back to the forum.... hahaha03:24
bbkin your cage with you!03:24
vinuxtransgress, me i'll stick with my uber free OS ubuntu.03:24
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rymdapansvenskar=03:25
DarkWolf<3 Debian <3 <3 Ubuntu <303:25
rymdapan?03:25
billytwowillyholy crap. You guys have really improved gnome in the hoary release.03:26
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vinuxbillytwowilly, gnome is uberness!03:26
yaaarbillytwowilly, well, i'm not sure it's quite like that. but yes, gnome has been making quick progress03:26
billytwowillyvinux, I'm a kde fan;) But atleast gnome is useable now. The gnome setup in ubuntu is now quite nice.03:27
rymdapani realy hate my touchpad!03:27
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rymdapanit makes me go nuts03:27
billytwowillyThe last time I used gnome was in warty and it was much clunkier than this.03:27
vinuxbillytwowilly, Yea I used kde for about 2+ years. It's really nice but I'm starting to like gnome03:27
billytwowillyHonestly, they both have problems, albeit different ones (and their problems aren't as bad as winxp's problems;)03:28
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Thorrn4hello! for some reason...I cannot view what is on a CD/DVD...I played a DATA DVD into the DVD drive...but this user cannot access it; another user that I have on this machine can...but not the one I'm on...the one I always use03:28
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billytwowillywhat was the name of that gnome cd burning app that is fairly new, but somewhat decent?03:29
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neirasHello - I have a number of packages that are 'kept back'. What does this mean?03:29
neirasbillytwowilly, gnome-baker03:30
Thorrn4billytwowilly, just use k3b...it is good03:30
billytwowillylol, ok;)03:30
vinuxgnome-baker is nice03:30
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Thorrn4for some reason...I cannot view what is on a CD/DVD...I played a DATA DVD into the DVD drive...but this user cannot access it; another user that I have on this machine can...but not the one I'm on...the one I always use03:30
dreaddydavegnome-baker is buggy03:30
Thorrn4yea it is03:30
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neirasThorrn4, add the user that can't access the drive to the group 'cdrom'03:31
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vinuxWell I only did a Data CD on gnome-baker and it worked fine but that's all I've done with it03:31
dreaddydaveIt always tells me the 640mb is too large to fit on my 700mb disk03:31
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dreaddydavestuff like that03:31
neirasdreaddydave, you need to select the size of the media you have in the lower right corner of the app03:32
dreaddydaveyup03:32
billytwowillydreaddydave, might be hard coded into the app? in k3b that is a config option..03:32
ironmcNow that XMMS is installed it froze up without playing the file.  How do I kill a process?  Obviously can't use ctl/alt/esc like SuSe03:32
dreaddydaveit is in the lowe corner03:32
dreaddydave*lower03:32
neirasThere is no way for gnome-baker to tell how large an empty cdr is03:33
billytwowillyironmc, killall xmms03:33
rnocomhi, anybody had success installing sjsas on hoary?03:33
ironmcthx03:33
neirasyou have to tell it how big the one you've inserted is03:33
billytwowillyironmc,  or ps -A | grep xmms03:33
billytwowillyironmc, then kill -9 the process number you got from above command03:33
HrdwrBoBor killall -9 xmms03:33
truz24is the cpu frequency monitor applet supposed to show cpu usage ?  If not, what applet shows CPU usage ?03:33
dreaddydaveI have to set it to a dvd size, put all my files on it, then toggle it back to 700mb03:33
HrdwrBoBor kill -9 $(pidof xmms)03:33
HrdwrBoBtruz24: 'system monitor'03:34
truz24thanks HrdwrBoB03:34
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ironmcany other ideas to play MP3's??03:35
dreaddydaveironmc are you using a nvidia car03:36
dreaddydave*card03:36
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ironmcyes I am03:36
ironmcon board03:36
dreaddydavei think there is a bug03:36
Eighth_do i have to do something on my machine to open port 80?03:36
ironmcit worked yesterday with SuSe03:36
ironmcafter I installed the fix from nvidia03:37
dreaddydavemight be specific to ubuntu03:37
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dreaddydaveor not03:37
ironmcI tried w/ Ubuntu  but I can't find the kernel source files03:37
dreaddydaveahh03:37
ironmcI am using the download version  are the source files on it, perhaps?03:38
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dreaddydavedon't know03:38
anto9usEighth_: only process run as root can open ports below 100003:39
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ironmcthx anyway  I'll find them03:39
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billytwowillyironmc, is xmms configured to use esd?03:39
Eighth_anto9us: i'm running an apache server, but port 80 from the outside appears stealth... no response from it03:40
anto9usEighth_: do you have a firewall?03:40
concept10Do you guys have the problem of when trying to install apps synaptic wants to remove ubuntu-desktop?03:40
ironmcdon't know what that is03:41
Eighth_anto9us: it's built into my router, but i have :80 redirected to my comp03:41
anto9usEighth_: can you connect to apache locally?03:42
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Eighth_yeah03:42
Eighth_here's the line in my firewall: AllowVirtual Server HTTPWAN,*LAN,192.168.0.100TCP,8003:42
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Eighth_source: WAN,any IP03:42
Eighth_dest: LAN,my comp03:42
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anto9usEighth_: I don't know much about apache I'm afraid, I would imagine it defaults to allowing connections external to your machine on port 8003:44
Eighth_one would think03:44
anto9usEighth_: have you another machine on your lan to test it from?03:45
Eighth_i could connect my lappy03:45
ivoksit listens on *:8003:45
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anto9usEighth_: I think that would help in solving it03:45
ivokstry telnet your_ip 8003:45
Eighth_could not resolve03:46
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ivokscould not resolve?!03:46
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Eighth_that's what it says03:46
ivoksEighth_ replace your_ip with your IP03:46
bob_hey, I'm using ubuntu 5.04 and I'm trying to get evolution-exchange working, has any one played with this and got it working?03:46
Eighth_telnet: could not resolve meznak.homelinux.net:80/telnet: Name or service not known03:46
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senraAnybody know how to convert  into cedilha (,c)03:47
ivoksEighth_ I said IP, not hostname03:47
caryhello everyone03:47
cary(not that i expect a reply)03:47
bob_hey cary03:47
anto9ushello cary, you can expect the unexpected here ;)03:47
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carybob..are you the same bob as bob2 from earlier?03:47
caryanto9us, good to know~03:48
caryanto9us, sort of like with ubuntu so far (still very much learning)03:48
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Eighth_telnet: could not resolve 70.176.28.98:80/telnet: Name or service not known03:48
anto9uscary: as am I :)03:48
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bob2no, he/she is not03:48
carybob2, hey! its bob2!03:48
vinuxIf anyone is interested in ubuntu 5.04 pkg list try here ---> http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/03:49
caryim about to make hte plunge. i have tiger sitting here and im nervously awaiting my brain to give me the go-ahead to start the process03:49
ivoksEighth_ does ps ax | grep apache shows any apache instance running?03:49
Eighth_several03:50
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caryanyone have any last advice for me about to do a clean install of tiger. i have my old Everything saved on my lacie, but i dont want to mess stuff up03:50
ivoksEighth_ and what does /etc/apache2/port[.conf]  says?03:50
xMaximexhow do i get mozilla to use "windows style" fonts ?03:50
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Eighth_Listen 8003:51
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Eighth_how can i tell which apache ver i'm actually using? i have 1 & 2 on my system03:51
joni_I can't enable DMA for my computer, it says the the operation is not permitted, does anyone have any advice?03:51
capianyone know a good resource on setting up a smtp server with postfix?03:51
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capiEighth_, look at the directory, apache2 will be in ... apache203:51
HrdwrBoBcapi: tjere03:52
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anto9usjoni_: have you tried your command with sudo?03:52
HrdwrBoBthere's about a trillion in google03:52
Eighth_capi: i have apache/ and apache2/03:52
ivoksEighth_ apache2 runs as apache2, and apache1 runs as apache03:52
iceonnethow to mount ntfs disks?03:52
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joni_ya, i'm doing it w/ sudo03:52
Eighthk, then i'm running apache03:52
FR500hellp03:52
FR500hello i mean03:52
ivoksEighth then you should configure apache1, not apache203:52
FR500how do i mount an iso image?03:52
capiEighth_, then you may be running both if you have more then one directory, they can run side by side without a problem03:53
joni_and when i transfer files from the cdrom to he hard drive, the computer gets really slow03:53
capiHrdwrBoB, what is  tjere?03:53
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Eighthi don't know what configuration i need to do to apache... i'm very new to this sort of thing03:54
carywhat is the default password, say, if i locked my screen?03:54
HrdwrBoBcary: your password03:54
carylike my default sys pw? cool.03:54
ivoksEighth first deinstall apache103:55
capiEighth, check out the Apache manual... manuals are your friend. :), what are you trying to do, can you see local host?03:55
ivoksEighth and run only one apache, apache203:55
Eighthi can connect to the server fine from the same box03:55
joni_Why would my computer run extremely slow if i was copying files from the CD?03:55
bob2capi: installing it and answering debconf questions is a good start03:56
ivoksEighth ? you just said you can't telnet to port 80 on your machine03:56
bob2Eighth: remove apache103:56
joni_plus the file transfer is going slow03:56
FR500joni_, try enabling dma for your cd-rom drive03:56
FR500for the second part03:56
ivoksjoni_ you need DMA03:56
Eighthif i go to http://meznak.homelinux.net/gallery/albums.php from my machine, i have no problems03:56
bob2bear in mind linux disabled dms for a reason03:56
joni_Right, but I can't do that in the first place, it says the operation is not permitted03:56
Eighthif i try from a machine off my network, it times out03:56
bob2er, dma03:56
ivoksjoni_ hdparm -d1 /dev/hda03:56
ivoksjoni_ hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc03:57
ivoksjoni_ or whatever your CD/hard disk are03:57
bob2Eighth: so, somsone is running a misconfigured riewall03:57
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FR500bob2, but without dma my dvd playback is crap03:57
bob2ok03:57
FR500bob2, is there a way to mount an iso image in linux?03:57
xMaximexhow do i get mozilla to use "windows style" fonts ?03:57
ivoksbob2 linux disables DMA cause of few crapy hardware03:57
joni_my cdroms are located at /dev/hda /dev/hdb03:58
bob2ivoks: yes, I know03:58
ivoksbob2 notably, some VIA chipset, IIRC03:58
bob2xMaximex: you need to explain what you mean, then maybe somone can answer03:58
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joni_/dev/hda:03:58
joni_ setting using_dma to 1 (on)03:58
joni_ HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted03:58
joni_ using_dma    =  0 (off)03:58
Gskillethow do i empty the trash as root?03:58
joni_That is what happens :(03:58
ivoksjoni_ then sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hda03:58
HrdwrBoBjoni_: use sudo03:58
bob2xMaximex: if you mean "How can I get firefox to use windows fonts", then just put some windows fonts in ~/.fonts/03:58
joni_I am using sudo03:58
Eighthmy firewall is set to allow all TCP traffic on port 80 from WAN,* to LAN,mybox03:58
bob2haha firewall03:59
bob2aparently not03:59
joni_sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hda03:59
joni_that is what i type in03:59
HrdwrBoBEighth: you need to allow traffic FROM port 8003:59
HrdwrBoBto lan,mybox03:59
bob2Eighth: disable it completely and watch it work03:59
HrdwrBoBa decent packet filter is nontrivial03:59
ivoksjoni_ maybe you aren't using right driver for your IDE chipset03:59
joni_If it matters, I think the computer is SCSI04:00
xMaximexbob2, i don't know how to explain it .. i dont speak english04:00
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ivoksjoni_ /dev/hda isn't SCSI04:00
bob2xMaximex: what language do you speak?04:00
xMaximexbob2: french04:00
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bob2xMaximex: #ubuntu-fr04:00
joni_The hard drives are SCSI then04:00
GskilletQuestion: How do I empty the trash as root?04:01
ivoksjoni_ maybe they are, but your CDROM is IDE....04:01
joni_ya, they are04:01
joni_so, anything else i could try04:01
bob2Gskillet: why do you have files in there owned by root?04:01
spiderwormhi all, so rhythmbox will let me see the id3 tag information but will not let me edit it?  it looks like it's in text boxes and i should be able to edit it.04:01
bob2spiderworm: you can't, sorry04:01
Eighthadded an outgoing :80 rule and nothing changed04:02
Gskilletbob2: because i deleted files that were owned by root04:02
spiderwormoh.  is there another app i can edit it in you would recommend bob204:02
joni_How can I troubleshoot my soundcard?04:02
bob2Eighth: disable it.  does it work?04:02
bob2if so, your firewall is broken04:02
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ivoksjoni_ i'm sure you aren't using proper drivers for your IDE chipset04:02
bob2spiderworm: I hear easytag is good04:02
joni_I'm using the default ivoks04:02
vinuxjoni_, on my system /dev/hda is first hard drive then /dev/hdb is second hard drive. then /dev/hdc is first dvd rom and /dev/hdd is second dvd drive04:02
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joni_vinux: you have an ide only system04:03
joni_i have an IDE/SCSI setup04:03
vinuxjoni_, oh ok04:03
joni_Its a gateway 550GR04:03
psychi, after i installed ubuntu, when i try to go to windows, im getting "Windows root\system32\ha1.dll is corrupted ..." does anyone know anything about it ?04:03
anto9usGskillet: navigate to the .Trash directory and delete from there04:03
bob2sounds like windows is screwed in an unrelated way04:03
spiderwormpsyc, yeah, i did it04:03
Eighthbob2: disable the rules or the entire firewall?04:03
bob2Eighth: the entire firewall04:04
spiderwormi wasnt gonna fess up, but with you begging like that...04:04
joni_How can I find out what type of soundcard i am using?04:04
caryoh hey general question. i have a usb mouse that gives me right clicking just fine, but the traditional mac "ctrl click" gives me nothing. is there any sort of key/click combo that will let me right click without the usb mouse?04:04
Eighthbob2: easier said than done, it's built into my router04:04
ivoksjoni_ lspci04:05
vinuxpsyc, hmm you did back up your windows files right? :)04:05
bob2Eighth: your router will have no effect on machines on your network accessing other machines04:05
HrdwrBoBEighth: you can just disable it04:05
bob2cary: f11/f1204:05
Eighthhow do i disable it?04:05
carybob2: oooo..thanks04:05
joni_got it ivoks, it says i have a Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 03)04:05
joni_Which isn't working04:05
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psycvinux, i didnt do anything with my windows partition04:05
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ivoksjoni_ i'm sure it is04:05
psycand i dont make backups04:05
psychehe04:05
luminerdWacom users here?  I REALLY Need help!  This has gone on SOOO long and right now I just wanna get this fixed once and for all!  Please say someone is here to help me! please!04:05
ivoksjoni_ does play /usr/share/sounds/error.wav04:06
psycspiderworm, what did you do ?04:06
makaveli0129how do i do a rescue install with hoary?04:06
ivoksjoni_ does it prints any error or just isn't playing?04:06
vinuxpsyc, hmmm well I really don't know about that. I've never seen any error like that. But try to google that error msg to see what happens04:06
bob2luminerd: please just ask your question instead doing that04:06
GskilletWhat's a good command to delete a directory (with contents)?04:07
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luminerdbob2, my question is "any wacom users here?"04:07
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ivoksGskillet rm -rf04:07
Gskilletthx04:07
ivoksbe careful04:07
ivoks:)04:07
psycvinux, thanks04:07
Gskilletif there's one thing about linuxer's its that they are uber careful04:08
bob2luminerd: presumably you plan to ask them something04:08
bob2if so, just ask now04:08
bob2it's so amazingly silly to beg for users of $blah before asking a question04:08
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kangpehanyone know how to set kdm as a default login manager04:08
kangpehrather than gdm04:08
joni_Sry, i got kicked off04:08
bob2install kdm.  enjoy!04:08
joni_Ok, back to troubleshooting04:09
luminerdOk, here's the deal...I've been messing with my WACOM tablet now for about 3 weeks.  I have yet to get it to work.  I run slackware 10.1 but seek help from other channels, because the process should be similar.  If anyone here is willing to spend some time helping me get this working, I would HIGHLY appreciate it.  I am having troubles every 5 seconds it seems!  Firstly I can't even get it to compile against my kernel.  I could reall04:09
luminerdy use some help!  If anyone can be a coach, I would really appreciate it!04:09
bob2oh lord04:09
RuffianSoldierbob2 can you give me that link to the working wifi adapters?04:09
bob2#slackware04:09
bob2RuffianSoldier: I don't know what you mean04:09
nomasteryoda|wluminerd, did you ask over on slackware? those guys should help04:09
RuffianSoldier:-P04:10
luminerdbob2, I have been there and across freenode: no one has been able to help, the process is the same, we are all linux users.  please can I get some help?04:10
ivokslol, what do you expect from distro that is runed by single man?04:10
luminerdnomasteryoda|w, see above04:10
bob2luminerd: no, it's not "the same"04:10
ivoksthat everything will work? :)04:10
joni_I found out that I have an Intel High Definition (HD) Audio integrated sound card04:10
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joni_Intel 915G Express Chipset04:10
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joni_that is my chipset04:10
bob2and I'm sorry your distro of choice doesn't have a useful community04:10
ivoksjoni_ does play /usr/share/sounds/error.wav plays anything or outputs error?04:10
RuffianSoldierI know the MA11V1 works with Ubuntu - but is it possible to get teh V2 working?04:10
joni_It says it can't open for resource04:10
luminerdivoks, A) it's not run by a single man, B) didn't come here to start a distro war C) it's meant to teach you about linux, not have everything just work. that's its purpose04:10
scotth_homeI'm having polypaudio problems.  I can't get gstreamer to play through polypaudio04:11
carybob2: here i go, i think. about to commit to this mess. any suggestions to heed as i go?04:11
scotth_homeanyone have an idea as to why?04:11
joni_ivoks: thanks for helping btw04:11
bob2cary: read carefully :)04:11
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ivoksjoni_ https://wiki.ubuntu.com//HdaIntelSoundHowto04:11
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carybob2: should i be nervous that i dont knwo a whole lot about command line stuff and general linux...stuff?04:11
Eighthaha!04:12
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ivoksjoni_ i would recommend souution from universe04:12
bob2cary: worst comes to worst, you reboot into mac os x04:12
bob2you should be fine, tho04:12
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scotth_homenot even gxine can play through polypaudio04:12
joni_ivoks: what solution is that?04:12
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Eighthbob2: i had put localhost and my domain into httpd.conf, but not my local IP, which is what my router was referring to04:13
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ivoksjoni_ go to that page, you will see it04:13
carywish me luck, whoever.04:13
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vinuxI just installed the pkg fortune but I need to know how to get it to display a fortune on login. Any ideas? I tried #man fortune and it didn't work04:13
makaveli0129i need some help i installed ubuntu hoary and then when i went to install windows i had to abort and windows had already marked the partition unactive how would remark the partition active? I am in the rescue console right now04:14
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ivoksi'll be back04:14
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microhaxoguys i need help04:16
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microhaxoi have azureus and i need to know how to get it running04:16
vinuxOk wait i'm sorry #man fortune did work. But it doesn't mention that I see to set it up on login. What file would I use to put it in bash. I think that would do it04:16
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bob_microhaxo, just ./azureus where ever you installed it04:17
makaveli0129anyone know how to mark my partition for ubuntu "active"04:18
RuffianSoldierthe WA111v1 USB Wifi adapter works with Ubuntu - I have the V2 - what are the chances of getting it to work?04:18
scotth_homeanyone at all familiar with polypaudio and why it won't output anything even though when I use gxine and tell it to use oss it works perfectly?04:18
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FR500microhaxo, what do you need exactly?04:18
joni_ivoks: is there anything after this that I have to do to get it working04:19
ivoksjoni_: did you do it all?04:19
joni_i did it all04:19
joni_is there anything i have to do after it?04:19
ivoksjoni_: you installed .deb package?04:19
ivoksjoni_: now do sudo /etc/init.d/hotplug restart04:20
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joni_Do i have to change the multimedia system selector?04:20
ivoksjoni_: wait, let's make it work first...04:20
bob2RuffianSoldier: is it too late to return it?04:21
ivoksjoni_: did you restart hotplug?04:21
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joni_not yet04:21
ivoksjoni_: restart hotplug04:21
RuffianSoldieryes bob2 i ordered it online - it didtn say if it was V1 or 2 i just assumed :(04:21
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joni_ok04:22
makaveli0129?04:22
ivoksjoni_: now with dmesg check to see if it mentions your sound card anywhere04:22
joni_o04:23
joni_k04:23
makaveli0129does anyone know how to make my linux partition active?04:23
ivoksmakaveli0129: it's inactive?04:23
makaveli0129ivoks: yes i went to go install  windows and then had to abort and now it is marked inactive and it won't boot04:24
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makaveli0129windows isn't installed yet though04:24
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ivoksmakaveli0129: ?04:24
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naliothivoks: didnt you infer from "inactive partition" that it involved windoze?04:25
codyHello04:25
ivoksmakaveli0129: when you start your computer, it goes directly to windows or?04:25
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makaveli0129ivoks: it says no operating system present04:25
Code_oh04:25
jkezarnew to ubuntu, familiar with redhat.  I am not knowlegable with X configuration.  Is there a helper app that can probe my hardware for ubunto so I dont have to mess with xorg.conf manually04:25
makaveli0129due to the fact ubuntu is marked inactive04:25
ivoksnalioth: ?04:25
joni_ivoks: problem04:25
scotth_homeanyone want to tell me why polypaudio can't find its modules, except they are there in the /usr/lib/polypaudio-0.7 directory04:26
ivoksmakaveli0129: this is seriuos problem... are you any good with linux?04:26
makaveli0129ivoks: i'm a little new04:26
ivoksjoni_: yes?04:26
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quiohello every one!! I've just upgraded my ubuntu breezy dist and now the X can't start.... I get this errror :   "glibc detected *** double free or corruption (fasttop)" Somebody could help me?04:26
w6649Hello04:26
makaveli0129ivoks: i am in the rescue shell for ubuntu tho04:26
jkezarhow do I tell which resolution and depth a current X session is currently using?04:26
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ivoksmakaveli0129: good04:26
paulproteusjkezar: Are you running X?04:26
joni_FATAL: Could not open '/boot/System.map-2.6.10-5-686': No such file or directory04:26
paulproteusOn a terminal, you can type:04:27
paulproteusxdpyinfo04:27
makaveli0129ivoks: so what do i do now?04:27
ivoksmakaveli0129: do you remember what partition it was with ubuntu?04:27
w6649I just recieved Ubuntu today in the mail, I was wondering how to set it up so I could use dialup internet.04:27
ivoksjoni_: are you running your custom kernel?04:27
paulproteusw6649: Have you installed it yet?04:27
w6649I am using the edition where I run it off of the CD-Rom04:27
jkezarpaulproteus: yes, an ugly X.  I know my hardware can do better04:27
paulproteusw6649: Ah, I see.04:27
makaveli0129ivoks: yes i do it is already mounted and now am at the prompt that says sh-3.00#04:27
paulproteusjkezar: Okay. :)04:27
chombeeSeveas - thanks for all your help, we now have a working server install on the uninstallable machine. Nifty trick really.04:27
ivoksmakaveli0129: you chrooted to it?04:27
joni_No, I'm running default04:28
joni_I think i need to install the 686 kernel04:28
makaveli0129ivoks: not yet but when i go to ls it lists all of my files04:28
ivoksjoni_: i think that too :) you have pentium, right?04:28
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joni_Pentium 4 3.2ghz Hyper threading04:28
ivoksmakaveli0129: ok, good, where did you mount it?04:28
paulproteusw6649: What modem do you have?04:28
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ivoksjoni_: then install -686 kernel04:28
quioWhen gdm starts, the log shows this : glibc detected *** double free or corruption (fasttop)04:28
joni_linux-image-2.6.10-5-686 ?04:28
w6649let me check04:28
makaveli0129ivoks: it did it automatically04:28
joni_is it ok to remove the -386?04:28
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chombeeAnyone know how I can configure the network interfaces from the command line? I skipped that step in the install, and now we can't apt-get anything b/c we can't reach the repositories. Need to run the network config that the install runs04:29
paulproteusw6649: Have you used it in Linux before?  Some modems have a lot of trouble in Linux because the manufacturers don't give specifications to Linux developers.04:29
ivoksmakaveli0129: run mount04:29
makaveli0129ivoks: i just selected the root partition and that it04:29
ivoksmakaveli0129: without switches04:29
ivoksmakaveli0129: it will tell you where it is mounted04:29
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w6649Intel 537EP V9x DF PCI04:30
ivoksjoni_: you should also install libc6-i68604:30
joni_ok, then i can remove -386?04:30
w6649should I have drivers on a floppy disk?04:30
makaveli0129ivoks: i did mount /dev/hdc1 which is root partition and it says line 9 in /etc/fstab is bad /dev/hdc1 already mounted or / busy04:30
ivoksjoni_: yes04:30
makaveli0129ivoks: it also says it is mounted on /04:30
ivoksmakaveli0129: ah, great04:30
ivoksmakaveli0129: you had lilo or grub?04:30
makaveli0129i had grub installed to my root partition04:31
paulproteusw6649: Let me Google your modem.04:31
ivoksmakaveli0129: then you should do grub-install04:31
RuffianSoldierI have an XP PC that gets its 'net from wifi - i want to use my ethernet slot as a router so I can get net on the Ubuntu PC thats next to it - how can I go about doing this?04:31
w6649ok04:31
ivoksmakaveli0129: grub-install /dev/hda04:31
ivoksmakaveli0129: grub-install /dev/hdc04:31
chombeeHello - anyone know what the network config tool that runs during Ubuntu install is? Is it possible to run that step afer an install, if it was skipped?04:32
makaveli0129ivoks: would that install it to my root partition and not my mbr?04:32
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ivoksmakaveli0129: no, it would install it to mbr04:32
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makaveli0129ivoks: grub needs to be installed on /dev/hdc104:32
ivoksmakaveli0129: you can't boot from partition04:32
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w6649http://www.intel.com/design/modems/products/537ep.htm If that helps04:33
ivoksmakaveli0129: isn't hdc1 your windows partition?04:33
joni_Its warning me that removing the kernel image is dangerous...04:33
ivoksjoni_: bla, bla, bla...04:33
paulproteusw6649: That should help some, thanks.04:33
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makaveli0129ivoks: no /dev/hdc1 is linux and /dev/hdc2 is windows04:33
ivoksjoni_: you know what you are doing, right? :)04:33
ivoksmakaveli0129: that's why windows didn't install :)04:33
joni_I've never installed a new kernel image04:33
ivoksmakaveli0129: look, you can boot system from partition04:33
makaveli0129ivoks: i need to install it to the root partition so that i can use windows bootloader to boot grub04:33
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Thorrn4hello!! Konqueror gives me a weird error....I cannot open data DVDs or CDs (kio (KDirWatch): WARNING: KDirWatch::removeDir can't handle '/dev')04:33
ivoksmakaveli0129: s/can/can't/04:34
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ivoksmakaveli0129: you are using windows bootloader for booting linux?04:34
w6649Will I need linux drivers?04:34
makaveli0129ivoks: i cancelled windows installation intentially because i need to use the dd command04:34
RuffianSoldierI have an XP PC that gets its 'net from wifi - i want to use my ethernet slot as a router so I can get net on the Ubuntu PC thats next to it - how can I go about doing this?04:34
makaveli0129and i forgot to04:35
paulproteusw6649: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//IntelFiveThreeSixEPModemHowto might be relevant, but I have to go, sorry.04:35
jkezarwhy does it keep using 640x48004:35
ivoksmakaveli0129: you are using windows bootloader for booting linux?04:35
makaveli0129ivoks: i have to go back and do that that e-mail myself the file created from the dd command in order to use windows to boot linux04:35
makaveli0129ivoks: not yet but i will be04:36
w6649TY04:36
ivoksmakaveli0129: why?04:36
spiderwormhey all, i discovered that when i hold my mouse over mp3 icons it starts to play the mp3, pretty cool, but it doesnt do it with my ogg files, is there somewhere to customize that behavior?04:36
joni_ok, ivoks i got it installed04:36
joni_and the deb file04:36
ivoksjoni_: great, now reboot to your new kernel04:36
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makaveli0129ivoks: becuase there are certain features for booting into windows that i like and that i need when something goes wrong with windows using grub it is hard to enter the boot options and much more complicated that way so i use ntldr04:36
ivoksmakaveli0129: ?04:37
ivoksmakaveli0129: you never hit F8 while Windows were booting?04:37
ivoksmakaveli0129: you get same menu04:37
makaveli0129ivoks: all you have to do is run the command dd if=/dev/hdc1 of="bootsect.lnx" bs =512 count=104:37
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ivoksmakaveli0129: i know, but as you see, things can get wrong04:37
ivoksmakaveli0129: there is nothing you can doo now in linux04:38
ivoksmakaveli0129: making partition active will not solve your problem04:38
makaveli0129ivoks: i forgot to do the dd command and there is no way to do that and get it to my windows partition unless i e-mail it to myself04:38
ivoksmakaveli0129: you have to install windows so it writtes to mbr04:38
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ivoksmakaveli0129: just install windows man04:38
ivoksmakaveli0129: makaveli0129 there is nothing you can do with linux now if you want to use window bootloader04:39
joni_ivoks, ok when i restarted hotplug and now my mouse isn't working04:39
ivoksmakaveli0129: after you install windows, boot to linux with rescue04:39
tchmnky<-- never thought I'd hear the words "just install windows man" uttered here in #ubuntu. o_O04:39
makaveli0129ivoks: so then how would i create the bootsect.lnx and get into windows04:39
ivoksjoni_: reboot!!!!04:39
joni_ok04:39
ivoksmakaveli0129: you insert your ubuntu CD, boot from CD, and hit enter04:40
tiglionabbitwhat are you guys advising here?04:40
eruinis there a way to make a movie off xscreensaver output?04:40
Xenguygw/z04:40
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microhaxoguys i installed Azureus and it dont like my Amd64 JAVA, so how do i fix it to work?04:40
Xenguysorry04:40
ivoksmakaveli0129: you go with installation till the partition thing04:40
tchmnkyeruin, short of an external video crapture, I don't know. :-/04:40
eruin:/04:40
tchmnkyNot built in to xscreensvaer, anyway.04:40
ivoksmakaveli0129: and then switch to console 2, chroot to your linux partition04:40
tchmnkycapture* not crapture.04:40
eruinI'll have to try Istanbul then04:40
ivoksmakaveli0129: and get everything you need04:40
eruinhttp://live.gnome.org/Istanbul04:41
eruinlooks promising ;)04:41
makaveli0129ivoks: ok i'm back into linux but if i was to use the dd command while grub is installed on the mbr would it still work the same?04:41
ivoksmakaveli0129: making partition active does not mean making it bootable04:41
paulproteuseruin: Not Constantinople?04:41
eruin;)04:41
tchmnkyeruin, Looks great. I am hereby proved wrong. ;)04:41
ivoksmakaveli0129: i don't know, i allways use grub/lilo in MBR04:41
ivoksmakaveli0129: then, if i have problems with windows, i press f8 while windows are booting04:42
cromwellI'm trying to set up my box so i can dial into it and access my cable internet...right now i think i need ppp0 active, but as soon as i try to activate it, it starts dialing a number04:42
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ivoksmakaveli0129: you get same menu (even more things) as with windows bootloader04:42
cromwellany ideas?04:42
tiglionabbitcromwell, what are you trying to do?04:43
makaveli0129ivoks: ok thank you for your help04:43
TokenBadwhats command to see free space on drives again in nix?04:44
ivoksdf -h04:44
tchmnkyTokenBad, df -h04:44
eruintchmnky, well, hopefully proven wrong, atleast ;-)04:44
ivoksthats from diskfree -humanreadable04:44
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ivoksas is rm -rf04:44
ivoksreadmail -readfast04:44
tchmnkyheh04:44
tchmnkyNo. Not quite. :P04:44
cromwelltiglionabbit: sorry if im not very clear, i just started using Linux/Ubuntu today.  im trying to set up mgetty so i can dial into my computer here from outside to access my cable internet04:44
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joni_ivoks! thank you so much04:45
ivoksjoni_: works?04:45
joni_yep04:45
joni_perfectly04:45
TokenBadthanks tchmnky04:45
ivoksgreat...04:45
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tiglionabbitcromwell: dial in?  Do you mean ssh or remote desktop?04:45
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ivoksno, he means dial in04:45
tiglionabbitwhat does that mean?04:45
ivokscromwell: with ISDN maybe?04:45
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paulproteustiglionabbit: He uses a modem to connect to the Internet.04:46
yonilhow can i find out the locations of all the files installed by a package ?04:46
cromwellsorry04:46
ivoksyonil: dpkg -L <packagename>04:46
tiglionabbitwow, I have no idea what you guys mean by that..04:46
yonilivoks, thanks04:46
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cromwellim on cable internet right now...but i also have a modem04:46
ivokscromwell: plain 56k modem?04:46
cromwellyes04:46
ivokscromwell: or ISDN?04:46
cromwell56k04:46
ivoksok.. simple modem04:46
ivoksin other words... pice of sssit04:47
cromwelli wanna be able to share my cable internet04:47
cromwellby dialing into this computer04:47
ivokscromwell: hm...?04:47
ivokscromwell: isn't that expensive?04:47
cromwell...no the idea is to get internet access without paying for a second provider04:48
tiglionabbitif I were cromwell, I would just use it through ssh04:48
ivokscromwell: cromwell but you are paying phone bill, right?04:48
cromwelllocal call04:48
ivokstiglionabbit: ?04:48
tiglionabbitjust log in remotely and use it04:48
ivokscromwell: ok, in my conuntry internet is cheaper than local call :)04:48
islanderhow do i install fvwm04:49
ivokstiglionabbit: you don't understand :)04:49
cromwellso anyway...the problem is i dont know how to get ubuntu to sit here and listen for incoming modem calls04:49
tiglionabbitI know I don't understand, but I don't see what's different about this04:49
ivokscromwell: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Modem-HOWTO-12.html04:50
ivokscromwell: If you expect that people will be able to dial-in to you at 56k, it can't be done unless you have all the following04:51
ivokscromwell: doesn't look good04:51
cromwellspeed isnt all that important04:51
ivokscromwell: ok :) then check out that HOWTO04:51
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cromwellthanks ill look at it now04:52
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chombeeWhen installing Ubuntu it detects and configures network interfaces, is there way to re-run this automatic step on an installed copy, or do I need to configure them manually?04:55
ivokschombee: you can't rerun instalation script, AFAIK04:55
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tiglionabbithow is dialing in different from ssh?04:55
ivokschombee: but manually isn't too hard04:55
ivokstiglionabbit: lol04:55
joni_ivoks: how can i change the default mixer to alsa?04:55
cromwellok i looked through it a bit, and ive already installed mgetty from the package manager04:55
ivokstiglionabbit: ssh is application protocol04:55
ivokstiglionabbit: and dialing is physical connection04:56
chombeeivoks - do you know anything about how to configure a wireless card? It's a plugin linksys one, I don't even think the device is detected04:56
joni_chombee: what model number?04:56
ivokstiglionabbit: you can't have ssh without dialing, for example04:56
tiglionabbitivoks: but what is the difference?04:56
ivokstiglionabbit: i just told you04:56
ivokstiglionabbit: it's like asking what's the difference beetween car and road04:56
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chombeejoni_ WPC54G04:56
tiglionabbitI don't quite understand.  Oh, is dialing in for people who don't have a normal internet connection?04:57
joni_ah04:57
chombeejoni_ Linksys Wireless-G notebook adapter04:57
ivoksjoni_: ?04:57
capiwhats the command to send mail with postfix?04:57
joni_my next step is to get the ati drivers and then get my Linksys WUSB11 to work04:57
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codyHello04:57
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codyI have a problem04:57
eruincurses04:57
ivokstiglionabbit: do you have ADSL?04:57
tiglionabbitivoks: cable04:57
ivokstiglionabbit: how old are you? :)04:57
joni_my Volume control in my notification area defaults to the oss mixer, how can i make it control the ALSA04:58
codyI just installed Ubuntu on my laptop... I had fedora previously. With Ubuntu, I have a new problem. A few times per minute, X will simply freeze for a second and resume.04:58
tiglionabbit19 as of today04:58
codylike I'll be typing, it will stop for a second, and then catch up with me.04:58
joni_because thats what my INTEL HDA is on04:58
cody/n/nick Cody_04:58
cromwellok i checked my mgetty log and it seems to have a problem starting up...it says the modem isnt turned on04:58
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joni_the oss doesn't change the volume at all04:58
ivoksjoni_: oss?04:58
HostingGeekHellow04:58
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joni_OSS04:58
joni_ya...04:58
joni_there is an OSS mixer and an ALSA mixer04:58
joni_only the alsa controls the sound04:59
ivoksjoni_: change multimedia selector to ALSA04:59
chombeeI've been looking at ifupdown, ifconfig, iwconfig etc but can't get started, the problem seems to be that there is no device eth0 or anything04:59
Cody_Any ideas?04:59
joni_ivoks, for the source or sink?04:59
ivoksjoni_: ALSA emulates OSS, so basicly, ALSA is controling sound card04:59
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ivoksjoni_: both04:59
joni_it doesn't work when i have it set to sink04:59
bob2chombee: that means you don't have the module for your card loaded04:59
joni_on the sink...04:59
ivokstiglionabbit: couple of years ago people used modems to connect to internet04:59
tiglionabbitchombee: try running system->admin->Network Administration.  It's a cruddy utility, but it should set things up04:59
ivoksjoni_: choose ALSA from drop down menu05:00
chombeebob2 - yeah! that sounds right... now what module and how to load it05:00
joni_Failed to contruct test pipeline for ALSA...05:00
the_deadhey guys, i have a question about my seona 2511.  when I used knoppix it read it and made it wlan0 properly, but even with hostap drivers installed i cand figure out how to get it working05:00
tiglionabbitivoks: oh, heh back when ethernet wasn't a 'normal internet connection'.  sorry =P05:00
joni_but ESD works05:00
chombeetiglionabbit - I'm stuck at the command line and can't install gnome b/c i have no networl05:00
ivokstiglionabbit: ethernet isn't "normal connection" even today05:00
Cody_I have another problem... I am trying to compile and install a program, but it says "invalid configuration 'i686-pc-linux'"05:00
tiglionabbitchombee: oh, that sucks.  It didn't detect it at startup?05:00
tiglionabbitI mean at install05:00
ivokschombee: open /etc/network/interfaces05:01
joni_Default Sink: ESD, Default Source: ALSA05:01
joni_That is what its on right now05:01
bob2chombee: what chipset?05:01
bob2chombee: gnome is on the CD05:01
tiglionabbitivoks: I couldn't imagine living without it05:01
ivoksjoni_: put ALSA for both05:01
HostingGeekWhere is the old human already????05:01
bob2HostingGeek: please05:01
ivoksjoni_: or ESD, for now..05:01
joni_that doesn't work05:01
ivoksjoni_: put esd for now...05:01
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joni_ok...05:01
cromwellok i think i may see the problem here with my modem.  when i goto System -> Admin -> Networking it says my ppp0 interface is not active05:02
joni_both sources work, oss and alsa05:02
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Cody_I have another problem... I am trying to compile and install a program, but it says "invalid configuration 'i686-pc-linux'"05:02
HostingGeekbob2: mako told me it will be back with the new release of clearlook (or maybe I was dreaming)05:02
chombeetiglionabbit - that step of the install was skipped, on booting the laptop afterwards it doesn't appear to have detected or configured anything05:02
cromwellbut when i activate it it starts trying to dial out right away05:02
joni_but the OSS Mixer doesn't change the volume, only my ALSA mixer does05:02
cromwelli just want to listen for calls05:02
the_deadhey guys, i have a question about my seona 2511.  when I used knoppix it read it and made it wlan0 properly, but even with hostap drivers installed i cand figure out how to get it working05:02
chombeebob2 - I have no access to the CD either05:02
bob2Cody_: don't use breezy05:02
ivoksjoni_: i don't know how HD manages sound...05:02
ivoksjoni_: but on normal AC97 you have couple of mixers05:03
chombeeivoks - okay, there's nothing in it except the loopback, and a hotplug grep eth0 thing05:03
Cody_bob2: Breezy?05:03
ivoksjoni_: one for aux, one for video, one for CD, one for speeker, etc...05:03
ivokschombee: great05:03
ivokschombee: now you have to fill in gaps :)05:03
ivokschombee: do you have DHCP on your network?05:04
chombeeivoks - okay, great - how do I say wireless card DHCP? Do you know of some examples somewhere?05:04
joni_right, but I'm talking about the OSS and ALSA, the one in my volume mixer is the one that shows up on my panel and thats the wrong one05:04
tiglionabbitchombee: if it didn't install properly, personally I'd just burn another CD and try again.  But I'm sure there are configuration settings, let me look through the wikis05:04
joni_fixed it lol05:04
chombeeivoks - the wireless works by DHCP, AFAIK05:04
joni_i had to right click>preferences on the applet05:04
tiglionabbitjoni_: how'd you fix it?05:04
joni_thanks for everything ivoks05:04
tiglionabbitoh05:04
chombeetiglionabbit - the laptop has no cdrom, we had to do a brain transplant05:04
tiglionabbitwow05:04
the_deadhey guys, i have a question about my seona 2511.  when I used knoppix it read it and made it wlan0 properly, but even with hostap drivers installed i cand figure out how to get it working05:04
ivokschombee: nice, does your wifi works?05:04
microhaxoIM trying to configure azureus and i need to point to my old JAVA client, WHY does it say this is WRONG JAVA_PROGRAM_DIR="/usr/java/j2re1.4.2/bin"    # use full path to java bin dir, ex.05:05
microhaxo BTW im runnin kubuntu amd6405:05
chombeeivoks - another Ubuntu laptop in here works fine with an internal wireless card by DHCP05:05
ivokschombee: but, does your wifi works? :)05:05
chombeeivoks - this laptop has a different wireless card, external one, and it's not configged05:05
ivokschombee: run iwconfig05:05
chombeeivoks - oh, there's nothing there - no wireless extensions05:06
ivokschombee: it will show you what's your wireless interface05:06
ivokschombee: then you have a problem05:06
chombeeivoks - yeah, it ain't configured.05:06
ivokschombee: this isn't about configuration05:06
ivokschombee: your system doesn't know you have wifi card at all05:07
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ivokschombee: check lspci05:07
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chombeeivoks - I installed Ubuntu on one laptop via cdrom, then removed the harddrive, put it in this laptop, it was the only way to install05:07
tiefoxanyone has been able to compile the latest mysql-query-browser in ubuntu ?05:07
ivokschombee: it will show you what's your wifi card05:07
ivokschombee: lspci | grep Network05:07
Cody_I just installed Ubuntu on my laptop... I had fedora previously. With Ubuntu, I have a new problem. A few times per minute, X will simply freeze for a second and resume.05:07
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ivokschombee: that's faulty procedure05:08
capiHow do I include a header with the sendmail command?05:08
ivokschombee: installation detects hardware and installas support for your hardware05:08
tiglionabbitchombee: ubuntu detects a lot of your hardware.  That will really mess you up05:08
capiheader/subject05:08
chombeeivoks - Okay, it's there, Broadcom 802.11/g Wireless LAN controller05:08
zythoh05:08
ivokschombee: i'm sorry05:08
tiglionabbitchombee: do you even have a disk drive?05:08
zythyou need ndiswrapper05:08
chombeeivoks, tiglionabbit - I was hoping hotplug would take care of it, anyway there was no other way05:08
ivokschombee: some of broadcoms work with ndiswrapper, some not...05:09
tiglionabbitchombee: what peripheral drives does your machine have?05:09
chombeetiglionabbit - that was the problem, this laptop I'm trying to fix has no cdrom05:09
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ivokschombee: in the end, you need Internet to set it up05:09
zythchombee, got a USB flash drive?05:09
chombeetiglionabbit - it has a floppy drive05:09
ivoks:)05:09
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chombeeivoks - yeah, I know, once I can apt-get from the servers I'm going. Probably05:09
chombeezyth - no05:09
chombeezyth - well, I don't think so. Why?05:10
ivokschombee: you don't have simple ethernet?05:10
chombeeivoks - no, it's broken.05:10
ivokschombee: you need to download couple of things05:10
chombeeivoks - crap05:10
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Cody_Can anyone explain this momentary X freeze?05:10
ivokschombee: like... windows drivers for broadcom05:10
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carywell...tiger..here i am.05:10
ivoksCody_: :)05:11
Cody_ivoks: Not use Breezy?05:11
ivoksCody_: that's because of your harddrive05:11
Cody_really?05:11
_douglasIs ther a debian/ubuntu/kubuntu package mirror for the latest nvidia drivers?05:11
chombeeivoks - there will be no way to get them onto the laptop in question, except maybe via floppies or if someone has a USB drive, but I wouldn't know how to get the USB working anyway05:11
ivoksCody_: it goes to sleep every now and then, and it takes some time to wake up05:11
zyth_douglas, http://www.ubuntulinux.com/wiki/BinaryDriversHowto05:12
Cody_ivoks; it's like 4-5 times per minute05:12
chombeeivoks - I also have a USB external cdrom drive that works with the laptop, but it didn't seem to be detected or setup when it was plugged in, not that I would know where to look05:12
microhaxoYO can anyone help me with configuring Azureus????05:12
Cody_ivoks: it would sleep that often?05:12
ivoksCody_: depends on your setup05:12
microhaxokubuntu amd64 I installed but it wont boot to GUI, runnin J2r 1.5.005:12
ivoksCody_: you are using breezy?05:12
zyth_douglas, er https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto05:12
_kevinmicrohaxo: do you want help installing or setting it up?05:12
chombeeivoks - would it be easier to setup a USB cdrom? then i could apt-get from the install cd05:12
microhaxoinstalling05:12
ivokschombee: this things aren't on CDROM05:13
microhaxoI installed it05:13
ivokschombee: these are windows drivers05:13
ivokschombee: you can't apt-get them05:13
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microhaxobut i guess i need to point the old 1.4.2 java to the azureus file05:13
tiglionabbitchombee: best idea would be to get your bios to boot from the usb cdrom05:13
levander`Anybody here has tried prelinking their system?05:13
tiglionabbitif that's possible05:13
chombeeivoks - I need windows drivers to get this wireless card working?05:13
_kevinmicrohaxo: You need to download/Install Java and then get Azereus05:13
ivokschombee: yes05:13
microhaxoI have java05:13
chombeetiglionabbit - I know, but it's impossible05:13
microhaxoI installed it05:13
tiglionabbitdarn05:13
ivokschombee: broadcom sucks05:13
_kevinmicrohaxo: So whats the problem now?05:13
microhaxoAzereus wont run05:13
levander`prelinking looks scary, talk about breaking package management05:14
chombeeivoks - do you know anything about configing the USB cdrom? At least I could install gnome05:14
Cody_ivoks: sorry, missed your last message.05:14
_kevinmicrohaxo: Did you follow the guide at www.ubuntuguide.org ?05:14
microhaxoAzureus TERMINATED.05:14
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microhaxoUes05:14
ivoksCody_: you are using breezy?05:14
cromwellok does anyone know how to activate the modem connection without it automatically dialing out?05:14
microhaxowtf is breezy?05:14
ivokschombee: it shouldn't be a problem05:14
Cody_ivoks: yup05:14
_kevinmicrohaxo: try to run Azureus through the terminal05:14
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cpayanbreezy badger :) where do these names come from?05:14
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ivoksCody_: so, what do you expect?05:14
_kevinmicrohaxo: type Azureus in the terminal05:14
ivoksCody_: that everything will work?05:14
weijie90cromwell: if u want to connect to the internet why shoudnt it dial out05:15
ivoksCody_: look at topic in #ubuntu and #ubuntu-motu05:15
Cody_ivoks; i downloaded the latest ... 5.0405:15
ivoksCody_: that's not breezy05:15
ivoksCody_: that's hoary05:15
_kevinmicrohaxo: I followed the guide on ubuntuguide and it worked fine for me.... maybe you installed Azureus before Java05:15
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jeremymhi05:15
_douglaszyth: That's what I've already done, how do I check my nvidia driver version number?05:15
microhaxono i didnt05:15
Cody_ivoks: sorry, then...  I"m using hoary.05:15
microhaxokevin, i get this error05:16
chombeeivoks - should be autodetected?05:16
microhaxofrom that guide05:16
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ivokschombee: yes05:16
jeremymanyone know what the defualt command line browser is05:16
microhaxoBuilding dependency tree... Done05:16
microhaxoE: Couldn't find package azureus05:16
zyth_douglas, glxinfo ? I don't know05:16
zythI have nvidia glx 1.305:16
cromwellweijie90: im trying to set my computer to listen for incoming calls.  but without the ppp0 interface active i get all sorts of errors in my mgetty logfile05:16
tiglionabbitmicrohaxo: that means you don't have a repository listed which azureus is in05:16
ivoksCody_: when it "freezes" does your mouse works?05:16
cromwellweijie90: at least thats my theory05:16
_kevinmicrohaxo: You may need to add the repositories nessesary05:16
microhaxoit doesnt matter, i have azureus dloaded05:16
microhaxofrom the site05:17
weijie90cromwell: i have no idea05:17
microhaxoand it still dont work05:17
microhaxo....05:17
Cody_ivoks: nope05:17
chombeeivoks - and then apt should just get stuff from the cd repository fine?05:17
Cody_ivoks: it's just like it has a brainfart for a second, and then it comes back.05:17
_douglaszyth: actually, that's what I was looking for!05:17
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weijie90cromwell: why do u wanna listen to incoming calls?05:17
_douglaszyth: It seems that they're not the latest drivers.05:17
_kevinmicrohaxo: interesting, you downloaded the source?05:17
weijie90cromwell: never heard of that05:17
ivokschombee: apt-cdrom add05:17
examndirtbaggreetings all05:17
zyth_douglas, I'm not sure, all I know is they work for me :)05:17
ivoksCody_: what video card is that?05:17
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chombeeivoks - thanks, I'll try this05:17
cromwellwiejie90: lol...im trying to share my cable internet05:18
_douglaszyth: They work for me too, but I'm trying to get more performance05:18
Cody_ivoks: oh man, it's some laptop video card... nvidia for sure. Should I install the nvidia drivers first?05:18
jeremymdoes anyone know if there is a command line browser installed?05:18
microhaxoi dloaded this05:18
_douglaszyth: Running steam with cedega05:18
jeremymor how to install smb server via ssh05:18
naliothjeremym: lynx05:18
microhaxoAzureus_2.3.0.2_linux.AMD64.tar.bz205:18
jeremymlynx isn't there05:18
naliothjeremym: or links05:18
jeremymsearched for both.05:18
ivoksCody_: lspci will tell you for sure wich one it is05:18
jeremymnot there.05:18
ivokslynx sucks05:18
tiglionabbitor w3m05:18
naliothjeremym: how bout elinks?05:18
ivoksuse links or 23m05:18
ivoksw3m05:18
jeremymw3m should be there05:18
jeremym?05:18
examndirtbagif i apt-get kubuntu, can I go back to regular ubuntu if i dont like it?05:18
microhaxoanyway, the problem is with the new java and amd64 kernel05:19
_kevinmicrohaxo: Ohh so you want to compile from source... your making it hard on your self my doing this... I'm pretty sure it's int he repositories... and it'll make your life easier doing it through apt-get05:19
Cody_ivoks: GeForce2 Go05:19
ivoksexamndirtbag: there is not difference beetwean kubuntu and ubuntu05:19
naliothexamndirtbag: you are just adding kde05:19
zyth_douglas, have you adjusted the system resources assigned to the program?  I use point2play, and I have to get Video memory to 128mb and AGP memory to 64MB for WoW to run well05:19
tiglionabbitexamndirtbag: you can get kubuntu-desktop, and later you could uninstall it.  It will add a session to GDM (or use KDM) to log in05:19
ivoksCody_: i have that one too05:19
ivoksCody_: works without a flaw05:19
jeremymthank's guys05:19
microhaxook kevin give the the repositorie urls to add into05:19
jeremymw3m works05:19
Cody_ivoks: weird...05:19
examndirtbagok, thanks05:19
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\shexamndirtbag: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop gives u only the additional kde desktop05:19
weijie90links2 is betta05:19
jeremymoh, anyone know where the vncserver is?05:19
naliothexamndirtbag: you will have a choice at login (click on 'sessions')05:19
_kevinmicrohaxo: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories05:20
Cody_ivoks: it does seem like maybe the hard drive clicks when the pauses occur05:20
microhaxoI already have those05:20
microhaxo....05:20
examndirtbagquick answers! thanks alot!05:20
tiglionabbityou're welcome05:20
_douglaszyth: well, I adjusted them in the profile section of point2play05:20
examndirtbagwell, bye then im gonna try it now.05:20
_douglaszyth: but not on my box05:20
ivoksCody_: you can start with sudo /etc/init.d/laptop-mode stop05:20
_douglaszyth: well, I mean not anywhere else.05:21
naliothCody_: clicking hard drive spells trouble in morse code05:21
jeremymis there a vncserver installed? i see a client, no server...if there isn't, how do I get one installed? I tried installing realvnc, but it calls for some libraries that arn't installed05:21
_kevinmicrohaxo: search in Synaptic Package Manager for Azureus if you don't find it, it means somethign is wrong with your source list05:21
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zyththat should be all you need.  I dunno man, could just be the limit of what your system can do?05:21
ivoksCody_: if that fixes problem, then it's because of your harddrive going to standby05:21
zythI gotta run though05:21
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microhaxonot there05:22
ivoksCody_: and yes, clicking hard drive is bad, as jeremym told you05:22
weijie90how do i run a command automatically when kde starts?05:22
naliothjeremym: use synaptic to search for whatever you like (pkgs available to install)05:22
Cody_ivoks: command not found...?05:22
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_kevinmicrohaxo: I'm sure you made an error while adding the repositories05:22
the_deadCan someone help me install my Senao SL 2511 EXT2 PLUS?05:22
_kevinmicrohaxo: Pm me05:22
jeremymsynaptic is what?05:22
ivoksCody_: sudo apt-get install laptop-mode-tools05:22
flodinea guys why dont my Xdefault work with ubuntu05:22
jeremymremember, this machine is headless and i'm using SSH for the time being, can i install it via ssh?05:23
microhaxoOk05:23
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microhaxohere is my damn problem05:23
Cody_ivoks: couldn't find package.05:23
_kevinjeremym: it's hte Package manager for installing and un-installing files05:23
_kevinthe*05:23
ivoksflodine: .Xdefaults?05:23
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ivoksCody_: you are using ubuntu, right?05:23
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Cody_ivoks: LMAO, yes.05:23
flodineivoks you use xdefaults05:23
ivoksCody_: you didn't enable universe, right?05:23
naliothjeremym: synaptic is a gui frontend for apt-get (is easily searchable)05:23
the_deadCan someone help me install my Senao SL 2511 EXT2 PLUS?05:23
Cody_ivoks: I just installed it. I didn't choose anything universe :)05:24
jeremymkevin: tried, it's already installed according to that05:24
HostingGeekOMG Hoary is already released05:24
mimi_imuthi05:24
HostingGeekI missed it :|05:24
tiglionabbityes it is.  I've been using it for a month, HostingGeek05:24
microhaxohahaha05:24
joni_Already haha05:24
ivoksCody_: ah... i have to go now..05:24
HostingGeektiglionabbit: I am being sacatic05:24
ivoksflodine: .Xdefaults05:24
ivoksflodine: and .Xresources05:24
the_deadCan someone help me install my Senao SL 2511 EXT2 PLUS?05:24
HostingGeekhoping someone will fix up the topic05:24
ivoksflodine: not Xdefaults05:25
Cody_ivoks: ok.05:25
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HostingGeektiglionabbit: I have been using breezy for the past 3 months05:25
fivreHey, I just used the Users and Groups manager to rename my account, and now ubuntu assumes that I'm not allowed to use sudo anymore... Which is quite a problem, How the heck do I fix that?05:25
chombeeivoks - do I need to mount the cdrom first?05:25
ivoksbye all05:25
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ivokschombee: no05:25
paxonAnyone else having problems with apt-get update? Is there any change to sources.list?05:25
HostingGeektiglionabbit: and hoary for 4 months before it05:25
tiglionabbitHostingGeek: are you aware of the topic?05:25
flodineivoks well i edit my xdefault and aterm colors dont change05:25
Cody_paxon: mee...05:25
jeremymthanks for the help05:25
jeremymim out of here05:25
jeremymbe back tomorrow05:25
chromateIs it possible to run KDE on Ubuntu?05:25
HostingGeektiglionabbit: I am not a n00b...05:25
paxonCody_, xplain?05:25
ivoksflodine: xrdb -merge .Xdefaults05:25
tiglionabbitlol, fine05:25
Cody_paxon: what?05:26
paxonnv, thanks.05:26
HostingGeektiglionabbit: I am so much not a n00b that I have been banned from #debian for almost 2 years05:26
chombeeivoks - apt-cdrom add fails to mount it05:26
joni_How can I transfer songs to my ipod?05:26
the_deadCan someone help me install my Senao SL 2511 EXT2 PLUS?05:26
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joni_I can see the songs that are on it but i can't figure out how to transfer songs to it05:26
tiglionabbitfivre: is your account set to have administrator privileges?  You can edit the sudoers list by saying `visudo`05:26
chromatejoni_: use a program like gtkpod or amarok05:26
joni_chromate: is it possible with Rhythmbox?05:27
flodineivoks thxs man your the Sh...t05:27
tiglionabbitHostingGeek: why'd that happen?05:27
TotalYKhi all05:27
TotalYKi'm using ubuntu for PC desktop05:27
TotalYKwhat soft can i using for playing mp305:27
the_deadCan someone help me install my Senao SL 2511 EXT2 PLUS?05:27
TotalYK?05:27
r0bbyidiot question, how do you remove grub from one drive?05:28
tiglionabbitTotalYK: you can use several programs ,but you'll need the codecs05:28
tiglionabbit!restricted05:28
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ubotuI guess restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats05:28
HostingGeektiglionabbit: who isn't on the ban list in #debian05:28
HostingGeek!ubotu ubuntu05:28
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, ubuntu is Open the gates To East and West Bring in all That's good and best. - Lenrie Peter05:28
Guerinr0bby: replace the boot record with something else05:28
Guerin?05:28
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tiglionabbitme, but I haven't been in there for a bit since I started using Ubuntu05:28
microhaxowhat the hell05:28
microhaxo./azureus: line 107: /usr/javajava: No such file or directory05:28
HostingGeek!ubotu ubuntu is #ubotu05:28
ubotu...but ubuntu is already something else...05:28
microhaxohow is that so!05:28
tiglionabbitI get banned from windows channels more often anyway05:28
HostingGeek!ubotu forget ubuntu05:29
ubotui forgot ubuntu, HostingGeek05:29
HostingGeek!ubotu ubuntu is #ubotu05:29
Guerinmicrohaxo: ls -l /usr/javajava05:29
tiglionabbit!ubuntu05:29
ubotutiglionabbit: I don't know05:29
r0bbyif that doesnt exist install it05:29
cpayan!ubotu ubuntu05:29
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HostingGeek!ubotu ubuntu is ubuntu05:29
ubotuokay, HostingGeek05:29
cpayanhah05:29
cthulfuegoCan we stop abusing the bot now?05:29
microhaxowhat?05:29
cthulfuegoOr do I need to switch it off?05:29
=== tiglionabbit pokes it and watches it suffer
cpayan"Somebody already said that 10 seconds ago"05:29
cpayanneat05:30
microhaxoguerin05:30
microhaxowhat do i do?05:30
HostingGeekcpayan: WTF where you doing in my channel spamming :D05:30
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HostingGeekcya all05:30
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cpayanjust kinda lookin around a bit05:30
_kevini wanna post my ubuntu screenshot on ubuntu users screenshot, if there is such a thing05:30
tiglionabbitwhat was microhaxo's prob?05:30
r0bbyi have a question05:30
r0bbyactually already asked05:31
r0bby:P05:31
bassinboyman, my video is REALLY old, and ubuntu only allows for 640x480........ how can i atleast get 800x600 ?05:31
fivrehmmm... So, I'm apparently screwed...05:31
the_deadCan someone help me install my Senao SL 2511 EXT2 PLUS?  I cant get it to work in ubuntu but it works fine on knoppix live cd.05:31
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r0bbyhow do you remove grub from a drive05:31
cpayan_kevin, i think there's an art gallery over at ubuntuforums05:31
chombeeivoks - if I manage to mount the cdrom myself, can apt then use it without having to mount it itself?05:31
tiglionabbitbassinboy: you can add it as a mode to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:31
Guerinr0bby: replace the boot record with something else?05:31
_kevinok thanks cpayan05:31
microhaxoi need to point to the old JAVA files  in azureus or whatever and it says that the directory dont exist.05:31
Guerinmicrohaxo: don't use java or azureus -> problem solved05:32
tiglionabbitchombee: you'll need to add it to sources.list05:32
cthulfuegoGuerin: <heh>05:32
fivreheck, I don't even have a /etc/sudoers file05:32
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tiglionabbitI like Guerin's solution.  Use bittornado instead05:32
microhaxohahaha05:32
microhaxothat dont work ETHER!05:32
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microhaxoit says installed05:32
microhaxobut05:32
PaloDeQuesoHow do I check my kernel version?05:32
microhaxowhen i click on torrent05:32
cthulfuegoPaloDeQueso: 'uname -a'05:32
bassinboyuname -a05:32
microhaxobah it dont work05:32
chombeeOkay! I mounted the damned thing (the USB connection is faulty, no easy task)05:33
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PaloDeQuesothanks05:33
abarbacciaanybody here run lirc?05:33
Guerinmicrohaxo: that would be your stupid05:33
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chombeetiglionabbit - do you know what the sources line would look like? quick example?05:33
microhaxo:|05:34
tiglionabbitchombee: let me check mine05:34
microhaxoi bet you 100 dollars its not me..05:34
chombeedeb file:/home/user/cdrom05:34
Guerinmicrohaxo: i bet you 200 it is.05:34
microhaxoand its this FKIN os amd6405:34
chombeeor something?05:34
Guerinmicrohaxo: what exactly are you doing?05:34
bassinboytiglionabbit: it already is a mode in there05:34
microhaxoomg05:34
microhaxohrm05:34
microhaxowatch05:34
microhaxok05:34
tiglionabbitdeb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)] / hoary main restricted05:34
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microhaxoOk05:35
microhaxoi have bittornado extracted05:35
r0bbyput a # ion front of that line05:35
microhaxointo a folder05:35
microhaxoNOW05:35
microhaxohow do i compile it05:35
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tiglionabbitextracted?  microhaxo, just get it from synaptic05:35
tiglionabbitit's easier05:35
Guerinwth05:35
microhaxoits not there05:35
microhaxothats my fking   pouint05:35
microhaxoi have nothing05:35
microhaxono WINE05:35
microhaxonothing05:35
Guerinyou're too stupid05:35
jokerinthepack51can soeone please tell me why when i use the live cd of ubuntu that the screen flickers on and off over and over again05:35
jokerinthepack51?05:35
capiHow would I make my local IP addresses static? i.e make one computer always have 192.168.1.100 ?05:36
Guerinmicrohaxo: read your /etc/apt/sources.list file and follow the instructions contained therein for enabling 'universe'05:36
joni_microhaxo: do you have universe?05:36
microhaxoyea05:36
microhaxoi added them05:36
joni_microhaxo: then sudo apt-getu pdate05:36
joni_sudo apt-get update05:36
bassinboytiglionabbit: any ideas?05:36
microhaxoi do05:36
microhaxono error05:36
joni_then search synaptic05:36
joni_its there05:36
microhaxoits not there05:36
microhaxonoo..05:36
jokerinthepack51anyone?05:37
microhaxothey dont have shit for my damn AMD6405:37
joni_what are you searching05:37
Guerinmicrohaxo: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install bittornado && btlaunchmanycurses .05:37
microhaxobitt05:37
capi?05:37
tiglionabbitbassinboy: so in every "Display" section you have listed something like this: Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"05:37
chombeetigglionabbit - I managed to get it with apt-cdrom. Did a man apt-cdrom and saw how to point it at the mount point05:37
bassinboytiglionabbit: yes05:38
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chombeeit's reading package lists now!05:38
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Guerinmr. chombee has the flaw!05:38
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chombeeGuerin - you got it05:38
Guerinah, what a choon05:38
tiglionabbitbassinboy: and so you've restarted X, now can you go to system->preferences->screen resolution and select another one?  If not, I don't know what you can do, short of dpkg-reconfigure xorg05:39
BisclaveretGuerin: is that better than the fear?05:39
joni_ok, lets settle down now05:39
GuerinBisclaveret: much.05:39
djscapi: System -> Administration -> Networking - change properties of desired connection to "Static IP Address"05:39
Guerinhey joni_, put it all behind you...05:39
bassinboytiglionabbit: for one, i have XFree8605:39
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tiglionabbitbassinboy: oh.  why's that?05:39
tiglionabbitI thought ubuntu used xorg05:40
capidjs, how do I do that in CLI?05:40
bassinboytiglionabbit: not warty05:40
tiglionabbito05:40
tiglionabbitcould dist-upgrade, or dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree8605:40
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paxonI have a problem with apt-get update, anyone can point me to the right repositories please?05:41
joni_I have a WUSB11 v2.8, how can i find out if it is atmel based?05:41
microhaxoyo05:41
microhaxothis MP3 player wont play my music05:41
_kevineveryone can check out my current desktop on ubuntuforums under artwork and gnome desktop05:41
microhaxoamarok05:41
tiglionabbitpaxon: most of the repositories you need are commented out in /etc/apt/sources.list05:41
tiglionabbitthere are also the backports repositories05:41
paxontiglionabbit, I need a new list.05:42
tiglionabbita new list?05:42
paulproteusmicrohaxo: Have you been to the Wiki page called RestrictedFormats?05:42
_kevinmicrohaxo check if it's using the ALSA or eSound plugin05:42
paulproteusIt may help you, microhaxo.05:42
chombeeivoks, tiglionabbit - apt-get is asking me to insert the disc on the drive /cdrom now, do you know where it wants me to mount the device? I don't see it specified in sources.list05:42
microhaxosays no SOUND plugin05:42
microhaxo:|05:42
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djscapi: One way is to edit (as superuser) the file /etc/network/interfaces05:42
microhaxoARE YOU KIDDING ME05:42
microhaxoI CANT PLAY MY MP3's!05:42
_kevinmicrohaxo you can05:42
microhaxo...05:42
microhaxoi almost died05:42
microhaxok how?05:42
ghostlessHow can I run without starting x11?05:42
_kevinmicrohaxo you need the libraries to play them05:42
Guerinmicrohaxo: life sucks. better give your computer away and become a travelling monk.05:42
microhaxoI have like 40 albums05:43
microhaxowhere do i get the libraries?05:43
_kevinmicrohaxo synaptic, search mp305:43
microhaxok05:43
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tiglionabbit!restricted05:43
ubotu[restricted]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats05:43
tiglionabbitmicrohaxo: read that ^05:43
_kevinmicrohaxo I have over 1000 albums05:43
microhaxothere is like 300 mp3 stuff kevin?05:43
chombeemicrohaxo - install xmms, beep-media-player, or gstreamer0.8-mad, for example05:44
microhaxok05:44
tiglionabbitamarok is pretty nice05:44
_kevinthere is a library for mp3 files05:44
_kevinget it05:44
chombeeAnyone know where I should mount a cdrom so that apt-get will find it?05:44
microhaxoi dont see it kevin?05:44
_kevingstreamer0.8-mad05:44
djscapi:  see "man interfaces" for more info on this file05:44
_kevinmy bad05:44
ghostlessHow can I start ubuntu without starting X? As in I want to run all text based05:44
_kevinmicrohaxo search for gstreamer0.8-mad05:45
chombeeit is looking for the drive '/cdrom/'05:45
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tiglionabbitchombee: try mounting it there then =P05:45
chombeetiglionabbit - in /cdrom/, from the root?05:45
microhaxoinstalled05:45
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fivretiglionrabbit: nope, definitely can't get into an admin account05:46
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fivream I stuck with a reinstall?05:47
chombeetiglionabbit - it works! I'm apt-getting. Now hopefully if all goes well I can worry about ndiswrapper tomorrow05:47
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jemPlease, How may I change the default card sound if I have 2 of them?05:47
chombeeI hope apt-get can survive the buffer errors while installing ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop, shit05:48
chombeeno it can't05:48
bob2microhaxo: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestriectedFormats05:48
bob2ghostless: sudo rm /etc/rc2.d/S*gdm05:48
microhaxoWTF05:48
ghostlessbob2, what if I want to do it just once or twice05:49
_kevinnetsplit05:49
ghostlessgrrr05:49
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_kevinwhen all these ppl rejoin I'm going to lag05:49
chombeeIs there an apt-get option to make it keep retrying forever in the face of errors?05:50
bob2ghostless: then emove it from runlevel 3 and boot into that if you wanot no gdm05:50
fivreok, anyone else05:50
bob2chombee: no05:50
ghostlessbob2, ok thats beyond me so nevermind I guess haha05:50
jemPlease, How may I change the default card sound if I have 2 of them?05:50
chombeebob2 - it seems this cdrom is too error prone to use with apt then05:51
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cthulfuegoghostless: You can use 'rcconf' to quickly switch 'em on and off.05:51
fivreif I somehow am no longer a sudoer, and I don't have an admin account to visudo, am I stuck reinstalling the OS?05:51
microhaxoso wtf05:51
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bob2fivre: of course not05:51
bob2no os is going to make you do that05:51
bob2jem: disable one on the bios05:51
bob2chombee: er, apt doesn't care, it's the kernel that's giving up05:51
fivreok then, what do I do?05:51
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cthulfuegofivre: No, boot it up in rescue mode and re-add yourself to the sudoers file.05:51
Cody_ivoks: it's just like it has a brainfart for a second, and then it comes back.05:51
bob2fivre: reboot.  go to the grub menu.  select "recover".  add yourself to the admin group.05:51
Cody_I just installed Ubuntu on my laptop... I had fedora previously. With Ubuntu, I have a new problem. A few times per minute, X will simply freeze for a second and resume.05:52
fivreah05:52
bob2also, renaming accounts is a bad idea05:52
fivreso I learned05:52
ghostlesscthulfuego, ok so where is this "rcconf"05:52
jemPlease, How may I change the default card sound if I have 2 of them?05:52
fivrethat really isn't a good feature...05:52
microhaxowhere do i get a SOUND ENGINE?05:52
ghostlesscthulfuego, nvm05:52
ghostlesscthulfuego, thanks a bunch =)05:52
cthulfuegoghostless: apt-get install rcconf; rcconf05:52
tiglionabbitchombee: ?  can't you use apt-cdrom ?05:52
cthulfuegomicrohaxo: Buy a second hand car and take it out.05:52
bob2jem: disable one in the bios05:52
bob2microhaxo: "sound engine" is not a technical term that exists05:53
microhaxowhat do i search for to get the sound library / codec05:53
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tiglionabbitmicrohaxo: have you read the restricted formats faq yet?05:53
bob2microhaxo: you need to be more speciufic05:53
microhaxoamarok says no sound ENGINE05:53
cthulfuegomicrohaxo: What sound library and/or codec?05:53
bob2microhaxo: the page I pointed you at explains this, I woud assume05:53
microhaxoit just says05:53
jemBob2another way changing a parameter?05:53
microhaxoAmarok No sound engine05:53
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bob2microhaxo: so, fix amarok05:54
ghostlesscthulfuego, thanks it works easy =)05:54
microhaxo"No engine loaded, Cannot start playback"05:54
microhaxoYea05:54
microhaxowhat file do i neeD?05:54
bob2microhaxo: search for amaraok and install whatever other packages exist05:54
bob2no "file"05:54
tiglionabbityou probably need a library like gstreamer.  I ask for the fourth time, have you read the restricted formats faq05:54
tiglionabbit?05:54
chombeetiglionabbit - I did use apt-cdrom, then I have to mount it to /cdrom, then I can apt-get, but it gets a lot of buffer errors05:54
bob2jem: blacklist one of the modules in /etc/hotplug/blacklist05:54
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paulproteusmicrohaxo: If you don't know where to get the restrictedformats faq, ask us. :)05:54
tiglionabbitchombee: you can mount it wherever you want.  man apt-cdrom05:55
jemI see05:55
tiglionabbit!restricted05:55
ubotuhmm... restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats05:55
microhaxolol05:55
chombeetiglionabbit - doesn't matter, I just mounted it where it was looking anyway05:55
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tiglionabbitbuffer errors?05:55
microhaxok05:55
microhaxogot it workin05:55
tiglionabbitum good.  Now enjoy your music, and rtff next time05:56
microhaxohahahaha05:56
microhaxolol05:56
chombeetiglionabbit - yeah, hundreds of Buffer I/O error on device sr0. What does it mean?05:56
chombeeis that a hardware problem?05:57
paulproteuschombee: Means your CD is probably bad.05:57
tiglionabbitno idea05:57
paulproteusBut I'm surprised your CD-ROM drive shows up at sr0.  Is it external, maybe?  Is it SCSI?05:57
chombeepaulproteus - or the cdrom or the USB connection more likely. The cd was used fine to install on another machine05:57
tiglionabbitpaulproteus: he said it was usb05:57
paulproteustiglionabbit: Thanks, sorry I'm in another channel primarily.05:58
paulproteusOr the drive is allergic to this disc.05:58
chombeepaulproteus - could I have mounted it with the wrong fs? I guess not cause I am able to browse the mounted volume05:58
paulproteuschombee: No, this is a lower-level problem than picking the wrong filesystem.05:58
paulproteuslower-level meaning "closer to the hardware".05:58
Bisclaveretwhere do all the bits go after building something from apt-get -b source, as in, does it just stay in a directory somewhere after building and installing? will apt-get clean remove them and the working files?05:58
chombeepaulproteus - the USB connection is dodgy05:58
tiglionabbitsay, I have a question.  My drive is formatted as ext3.  When I boot, it says something about ext2fs, and every 30 times it has to check the disk.  This doesn't seem right..05:59
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paulproteuschombee: Oh, I see.05:59
cthulfuegotiglionabbit: That's normal.05:59
tiglionabbitI thought ext3 was journaling, and didn't have to fscheck all the time05:59
chombeeGoddamn it! This laptop has no internal cdrom, a broken lan card, an unsupported ext wireless card, and an ext cdrom on a broken USB connection. Argh!05:59
paulproteustiglionabbit: In your /etc/fstab , make sure the filesystem is set to 'ext3' rather than 'ext2'.05:59
cthulfuegotiglionabbit: That would normally equate to a check every 2 years ;-)05:59
paulproteuschombee: Yeah.  It's times like that I just take the hard drive out and install it on something else.06:00
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paulproteuschombee: Or be *really careful* with the USB.06:00
joni_Is anyone familiar with the WUSB11?06:00
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tiglionabbityes, it's ext306:00
tiglionabbitso why does it need to check it?06:00
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paulproteuschombee: You may find it easier to do a "server" install rather than a full one from the CD.06:00
chombeepaulproteus - that's whay I did! I did a server install, and ended up with the HD back in and no way to get packages06:00
paulproteusThen do the rest via network or something...?06:00
paulproteuschombee: I see.06:00
jemBob2,now how I may restart it?06:01
paulproteuschombee: You didn't happen to copy the CD contents to that hard drive, did you?06:01
paulproteus(I thought the installer did that automatically at the end, anyway.)06:01
chombeepaulproteus - I put the HD in another machine and did server install, but once I put the HD back I have no network and no cdrom06:01
tiglionabbitalso, I've found if I try to skip the check it fails to start up06:01
PaloDeQuesoI just downloaded linux-source-2.6.10, what link do I make and where to get nvidia drivers to compile a module right?06:01
chombeepaulproteus - explain ?06:01
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fivrebob2: how do I make myself an admin via the GRUB command line?06:01
cthulfuegoPaloDeQueso: Just run module-assistant06:01
paulproteusThe install, if I recall correctly, copies the CD's contents to /var/cache/apt/archives .06:01
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tiglionabbitsay, where does it save the log of the messages it prints out when starting up?06:01
PaloDeQuesocthulfuego , erm, what's that?06:02
cthulfuegoPaloDeQueso: Your saviour.06:02
Quequegtiglionabbit, try 'dmesg'06:02
tiglionabbitQuequeg: nope06:02
paulproteuschombee: Maybe we should work on getting the wifi to work, so you can get yourself up from there.  What card is it?06:02
PaloDeQuesocthulfuego , k, brb06:02
paulproteus(And do you use WEP on your network?)06:02
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fivreor anyone really: how do I make myself an admin via the GRUB command line?06:03
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cthulfuegofivre: adduser <username> admin06:03
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chombeepaulproteus - no cd contents at that location. The wireless card is unsupported, may work with ndiswrapper - but I can't download it! Anyway - it's a LinkSys Wireless-G WPC54G06:03
paulproteusfivre: Pick your default kernel.06:03
cthulfuegofivre: When that's done, type 'exit' and let the bootup resume.06:03
paulproteusDo 'e' to edit the command line.06:03
PaloDeQuesocthulfuego , is there a package I have to install?06:04
paulproteusAdd ' init=/bin/sh' to it, then save it with enter.06:04
tiglionabbitsuch disorganized advice06:04
paulproteusThen do 'b' to boot from that kernel.06:04
cthulfuegoPaloDeQueso: yes, module-assistant :-)06:04
tiglionabbitI can't even understand what you're telling him to do06:04
chombeepaulproteus - maybe I should put the HD in the other laptop again, download ndiswrapper or whatever might be useful, then put the HD back06:04
tiglionabbitthat's such a weird way to install, chomb06:04
paulproteuschombee: Agreed.  But you'll want to do research to also get the Windows drivers for the laptop so ndiswrapper can do its thing.06:04
fivrecthulfuego: that gave me an error message. Am I using the wrong command line?06:05
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chombeepaulproteus - okay. I rest now06:05
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paulproteuschombee: Understandable.06:05
cthulfuegofivre: Did the machine partially boot up and then give you a shell prompt?06:05
Codeman7Just installed ubuntu, maybe 1-2 times per minute it freezes for a second.... any ideas? I can't move the mouse or type or anything, and then it just comes back06:05
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tiglionabbita lot of people seem to be complaining about this freezing problem.  I've never seen it though06:06
fivreerr... I typed 'c' for command line at the GRUB menu06:06
paulproteusfivre: Check out http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-3609.html06:06
Codeman7tiglion: really? on forums or something?06:06
cthulfuegofivre: That was not what you were supposed to do.06:06
paulproteusFollow the advice up to step 10 and get back to me once you have finished step 10.06:06
PaloDeQuesocthulfuego , how do I use this with the nvidia driver install script I downloaded?06:06
fivreah06:06
paulproteusDo nont continue to step 11.06:06
bradyLooking for a tip - gnome system monitor loads, then immediately locks up.  have uninstalled/reinstalled w/ no avail06:06
cthulfuegofivre: Go abck to the list in grub, and select the 'recovery' option, then boot.06:06
fivreok06:07
cthulfuegoPaloDeQueso: You don't, you just tell module-assistant to sort it all out and give you packages.06:07
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PaloDeQuesocthulfuego , have you used this on the nvidia driver?06:07
PaloDeQuesoit comes as an install script.06:07
cthulfuegoPaloDeQueso: yes.06:07
cthulfuegoPaloDeQueso: Did you download the nvidia drivers from nvidia.com?06:07
PaloDeQuesocthulfuego , yea06:08
BisclaveretCodeman7: that sounds like something i've experienced on win95-98 computers with bad FIFO systems :/06:08
Codeman7FIFO?06:08
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cthulfuegoPaloDeQueso: Just trash those. Thou shalt not infect thy bopx with those.06:08
BisclaveretFirst In, First Out06:08
Codeman7oh ...06:08
PaloDeQuesocthulfuego : what do you reccoment?06:08
cthulfuegoPaloDeQueso: There are prepackaged Ubuntu nvidia drivers and driver source. module-assistant uses those instead.06:09
cthulfuegoPaloDeQueso: Just run 'module-assistant' and follow the prompts.06:09
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PaloDeQuesocthulfuego , I was hoping to get the latest drivers for better performance though?06:09
cthulfuegoPaloDeQueso: Why are you so hell-bent on breaking your machine?06:10
PaloDeQuesocthulfuego , I'm not, I was just hoping for a better frame rate, but if they're that unstable I won't install the latest onces, I already have the ubuntu driver on my box and running well.06:11
cthulfuegoPaloDeQueso: They won't give you a higher framerate.06:11
PaloDeQuesocthulfuego , oh.06:11
tiglionabbityou don't have to be mean about it, cthulfuego06:11
cthulfuegotiglionabbit: I wasn't aware I was.06:12
PaloDeQuesocthulfuego , it's fine06:12
PaloDeQuesocthulfuego , ok, then let me ask this... Do I have to set anything up like how much ram I have or anything like that or should it already be set up for the best performance?06:13
cthulfuegoPaloDeQueso: Any driver that requires that info can access the number under /proc.06:13
microhaxoGuys, how do i install this file, cedega.tgz?06:13
microhaxocan i extract it?06:13
microhaxoor do i need to install?06:13
tiglionabbitmicrohaxo: tar xvzf cedega.tgz06:13
cthulfuegoPaloDeQueso: You can (optionally) tell X how much vram you have, but it will justd etect it by itself if you specify nothing.06:13
PaloDeQuesocthulfuego , I c.06:14
cthulfuegomicrohaxo: cedega comes as a .deb file, use that one.06:14
PaloDeQuesocthulfuego , so basically it's as good as it gets.06:14
tiglionabbitthat's X for extract, V for verbose, Z for gZip, f for a file06:14
tiglionabbiter, but lower case06:14
cthulfuegoPaloDeQueso: unless you upgrade the card or the cpu, yeah.06:14
tiglionabbityeah, deb's easier06:14
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cthulfuegomicrohaxo: YOu didn't ask about p2p software so that you could download a pirated cedega, did you?06:15
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tiglionabbithehe06:15
PaloDeQuesocthulfuego , thanks, I guess I'll just deal with the slow emulated framereates of cedega and steam :(06:15
microhaxolol06:15
microhaxono06:15
microhaxoi dloaded a CVS06:15
microhaxostill cant get fkin BITTORENT TO WORK!06:16
cthulfuegoPaloDeQueso: Cedega ought to be able to use hardware 3d, does here.06:16
microhaxodoesnt winex work just as good as cedega?06:16
PaloDeQuesocthulfuego , no it runs, just not near as fast as it does in windows, like I get a 20 fps difference06:16
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tiglionabbitmicrohaxo: sudo apt-get install bittornado-gui06:16
cthulfuegoPaloDeQueso: yeah, but that's not surprising... it's non-native after all.06:16
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PaloDeQuesoyea but people reported faster fps with roughly my same specs, and I even turned down the video settings.06:17
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microhaxohow do i06:18
microhaxoconvert a tgz to .deb06:18
microhaxo?06:18
tiglionabbitmicrohaxo: you don't want to do that06:18
zythalien06:18
microhaxo?06:18
zythbut it's evil06:18
microhaxothen how the hell do i install06:19
microhaxothis .tgz06:19
witlessi've installed hedgehog, but when it boots to the desktop i just get the coffee background, and that's it.  mouse moves, but nothing else works (can't get to a console or anything)...  any suggestions?06:19
microhaxo?06:19
tiglionabbitmicrohaxo: I told you06:19
tiglionabbittar xvzf cedega.tgz06:19
microhaxothat dont work06:19
microhaxo...06:19
tiglionabbitthen cd into it and read the readme06:19
microhaxooh06:19
microhaxoit did06:19
microhaxolol06:19
microhaxowhere did it install it06:20
microhaxolol?06:20
tiglionabbitmicrohaxo: that just extracted it.  Now you need to compile it06:20
microhaxoAw shit06:20
tiglionabbitlook for a file in it called INSTALL or README and read that for instructions06:20
microhaxok06:20
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tiglionabbitthat's what you get from CVS, microhaxo06:20
zythum06:20
zythI have .debs for cedega06:20
zythoh06:20
microhaxo:|06:20
zythyou used CVS06:20
microhaxoi think it is compiled?06:21
microhaxoi have a usr folder?06:21
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microhaxoinside of that is bin06:21
microhaxoand bonch of shit06:21
microhaxowith a cedega console file?06:21
tiglionabbit?  if you just extracted a tgz from cvs, it wont be compiled06:21
microhaxoi dont see any .c files?06:22
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cthulfuegoHmm. /me finds and trashes a 1.2GB ~/.transgaming.cruft directory06:22
zythunless he got an 'evil' precompiled ver.06:22
tiglionabbitmicrohaxo: do you see a README or INSTALL file?06:22
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microhaxono06:22
microhaxolol06:22
dreaddydaveis there a file that says make on it?06:22
tiglionabbitany documentation at all?06:22
microhaxono06:22
microhaxonone06:22
microhaxolol06:22
zythdid you find this on a torrent site?06:22
microhaxojust06:22
alex__guys, can anyone help me?06:22
microhaxono06:22
microhaxoits online06:22
zythlol06:22
microhaxofree06:22
microhaxoubuntu forums06:22
alex__i have a question06:22
tiglionabbitis there a file called autogen.sh or install.sh ?06:22
zythsounds like precompiled.06:23
microhaxono06:23
dreaddydaveright they give away the cvs06:23
alex__about dual OS booting06:23
zythalex__, don't ask to ask, ask, and if someone can help you, they will.06:23
alex__ok, tnx06:23
staticoHow can I install a really old version of a package, one that's probably not even on the mirrors? I'm trying to get xserver-xorg=6.8.1-1ubuntu1606:23
alex__this is my first time with linux and irc06:23
dulouztgz file could also be a slackware package06:23
staticoNot that it *will* install, I just want to see what requires a newer version.06:24
microhaxoOh06:24
dulouzin which case, not source06:24
zythdulouz, if it was, he could alien it.06:24
microhaxothere is a doc folder06:24
microhaxohow the hell do i install this sh*t06:24
microhaxoit extracted a USR folder06:24
microhaxowith all stuff inside06:24
alex__http://ubuntuguide.org/#addwindowsentrygrubmenu here author says "Assumed that /dev/hda1 is the location of Windows partition"06:24
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alex__but mine windows partition is hdb106:24
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tiglionabbitmicrohaxo: cvs isn't always stable.  It's meant for developers to work on06:25
microhaxoi dont care06:25
microhaxoi just want to install it..06:25
microhaxo:|06:25
tiglionabbitgo ask the developers06:25
microhaxolmao06:25
alex__what exactly i should type in menu.list except (hd0,0)?06:25
microhaxocommon06:25
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zythalex__, I *think* hd(1,0) BUT don't quote me on that, read the grub manpage06:25
cthulfuego(0,0) is sda1 or hda106:26
alex__ah, ok, tnx anyway06:26
cthulfuegoalex__: See /usr/share/doc/grub/examples/ for a sample.06:26
zythcthulfuego, is 1,0 hdb1?06:26
cthulfuegozyth: yep06:26
zythok so I was right06:26
zythbut still, read the docs ;)06:26
cthulfuegozyth: Well, hda1 in my case, coz 0,0 is sda1 :-)06:26
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alex__cool, tnx everyone06:26
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zythI gotta feed my WoW account some time06:27
stephdoes anyone know of a guide to install the new ati drivers that Wont make me screw up X so i have to reinstall06:27
zythit won't let me play, grr.06:27
alex__LINUX ROCKS! WINDAZ SUcKS! My bests 2 everyone06:27
cthulfuegosteph: module-assistant06:27
zyththat was odd.06:27
microhaxoRight, can someone just tell me how i can install this, i have a usr folder, bin lib folders06:27
stephcthulfuego, what's that?06:27
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microhaxoin the bin there is a CEDEGA terminal deal06:28
zythmicrohaxo, well, you could be insane, chdir to /, and as root tar -zxvf cedega.tgz06:28
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zythand hope it doesn't kill things06:28
microhaxoLol06:28
microhaxoanother option06:28
zythcause that's what it sounds like it wants06:28
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microhaxowell06:28
zythI have .deb's.06:28
zyththey work better :P06:28
microhaxoi tried to run it06:28
microhaxoget these errors06:28
microhaxop: cannot stat `/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega//.transgaming/tg_config_version': No such file or directory06:28
microhaxoUpdate complete06:28
zythyeah06:29
zythyou don't have that dir06:29
microhaxowtf is that all about06:29
zythunless you decompress from /06:29
zythprobably06:29
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microhaxoso i have CVS?06:29
microhaxoor is it compiled06:29
microhaxo?06:29
zythNo you have some wonky precompiled ver06:29
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microhaxohow the hell do i use it?06:29
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zythyou could uncompress it as root and hope it works06:29
zythfrom /06:29
microhaxohow do i do that?06:29
Codeman7I have Ubuntu on my laptop. Maybe 1-2 times per minute, it just freezes for a second (the entire X interface) and then comes back.06:29
zythopen terminal, cd to / and sudo tar -zxvf cedega.tgz06:30
zythbut you could do nasty nasty things to your ubuntu if that is malicious in any ways06:30
dreaddydaveyou're not going to be able to insall cedega from cvs06:31
microhaxoyay06:31
microhaxoi got an RPM06:31
microhaxoconvert to DEB06:31
microhaxoso06:31
gpdCodeman7: me too06:31
gpdCodeman7: but more like 5 mins06:31
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microhaxosudo alien -d cedega-200050214-cvs.i586.rpm06:31
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dulouzspeaking of Wine, i've only recently switch from SuSE to Ubuntu. Searching in Synaptic Package Manager, I don't even find Wine. i think i have all the repositories from /etc/apt/sources.list available06:32
cthulfuegomicrohaxo: Just don't actually expect it to work, though.06:32
zythhttp://www003.portalis.it/115/gtngursngsn85m5699865.html06:32
zythif ti doesn't work, get WineX from there06:32
zythmight work :)06:33
cthulfuegoor just use a stable version.06:33
microhaxoi got that06:33
microhaxok06:33
Codeman7gpd: any solutions?06:33
microhaxohow do i convert rpm to dEB?06:33
zythalien, I think06:33
microhaxothe exact command? cuz it says no directory when i do alien -d filename06:33
cthulfuegomicrohaxo: 'man alien'06:34
gpdCodeman7: not as yet:  messages like ide2 wait for ready failed before probe!06:34
microhaxothere we go06:34
microhaxo:D06:34
Codeman7gpd: where are you seeing these?06:34
microhaxoaww shit06:34
gpdCodeman7: possibly ide2=0x1F0 in grub06:34
microhaxoit extracted it06:34
gpdCodeman7: /var/log/syslog just b4 hang06:34
microhaxoto a cedega folder06:35
microhaxonow waht i do?06:35
gpdCodeman7: hang only recoverable with Ctrl-Alt-Prtscrn-S-U-B = you too?06:35
Codeman7I don't see anything :/06:35
witlessanyone know what might cause ubuntu to freeze on start-up with a blank coffee background, and nothing responding but the mouse?06:35
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gpdCodeman7: no... not sure that is the right error06:35
microhaxoguys06:35
gpdCodeman7: sometimes freeze recovers but top says all is well06:35
tiglionabbitdunno witless.  Tried switching to a virtual terminal and running 'top' to see what programs are active?06:36
microhaxoi did man alien -p filename.rpm06:36
microhaxoit made a folder with contents06:36
zythum06:36
microhaxohow do i install now?06:36
Codeman7gpd: see, mine just freezes for a second or two and always returns06:36
gpdmicrohaxo: you have the same as me and Codeman706:36
microhaxohuh?06:36
gpdmicrohaxo: mine freezes on Gnome login06:36
witlesstiglionabbit: i tried, but i couldn't even do that - no response at all.  had to reset the machine.06:36
microhaxonot me06:36
microhaxoim kde06:36
gpdmicrohaxo: but also freezes in rescue!06:37
Codeman7micro: i'm sure it's not a gnome problem06:37
microhaxoim not gnome06:37
microhaxolol06:37
microhaxoim kde06:37
microhaxolmao06:37
microhaxoanywho06:37
gpdi had breezy and all good... then downgraded to hoary and this!06:37
microhaxowhy didnt this command : man alien -p filename.rpm   make a deb? it made a folder instead06:37
gpdi tried multiple kernels but no joy06:37
Codeman7gpd: it's probably something simple06:37
Codeman7gpd: like HD sleeping or video card or something06:37
gpdtried apic off no joy06:38
gpdnope... it is on boot06:38
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Codeman7gpd: laptop by any chance?06:38
gpdyes06:38
Codeman7me too06:38
Codeman7hmm06:38
gpdbut all ok b4 with hoary pre-release06:38
gpdmaybe they changed a kernel setting06:38
gpdmabye i should try warty and upgrade with sources.list06:38
microhaxoYoo, why did that command man alien -d take my rpm to a foldeR?!06:38
microhaxoand how do i install it from folder?06:39
gpdmicrohaxo: alien just creates a .deb06:39
microhaxoyea06:39
gpdyou have to use dpkg -i file.deb06:39
microhaxowell mine made a folder06:39
alex__can anyone tell me how to make a folder in "start"-application list for CrossOver and programms that were installed with crossover?06:39
Codeman7gpd: I have this weird feeling it has something to do with power management] 06:39
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limermorning all06:40
gpdCodeman7: I tried apic off... and apm not supported on my laptop06:40
microhaxogpd what?06:40
microhaxoso i do06:40
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microhaxoman alien -d cedega-2005.rpm then what?06:40
Codeman7gpd: hmmm.06:40
Codeman7micro: you using a laptop too?06:41
gpdmicrohaxo: why -d ?06:41
microhaxowhy not?06:41
microhaxolol06:41
microhaxowhat option to i do?06:41
gpdcan't remember... no option?06:41
gpdisn't cedega in multiverse?06:41
cthulfuegomicrohaxo: run 'man alien' and read how to use it. Don't make up command lines and hope they work.06:42
microhaxohaha06:42
microhaxoi was right06:42
microhaxo-d = deb06:42
microhaxo:P06:42
cthulfuegomicrohaxo: alien created DEBs byd efault on Debian (and by association on Ubuntu)06:42
microhaxothen wtf06:42
microhaxowhat command06:42
dr_willisthe cedega home page had .pkg's the other day06:42
microhaxoalien cedega.rpm?06:43
dr_willisbut not sure wht cedega-2005 is :P06:43
gpdif alien works it should produce cedega.deb06:43
cthulfuegomicrohaxo: ... which you would know, had you read the manpage.06:43
microhaxoi didnt get this FROM THEM06:43
microhaxoit is a CVS compile06:43
microhaxonow06:43
microhaxohow do i convert this rpm to deb the EXACT COMMAND?06:43
gpdalien cedega.deb06:43
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gpd(-d is default)06:43
microhaxok06:43
gpdtry file cedega.rpm06:44
gpds/cedega.deb/cedega.rpm/06:44
gpddpkg -i cedega.deb06:44
fivreOk then...06:44
gpdif file cedega.rpm doesn't say it is rpm then something is wrong06:44
gpdCodeman7: what is your plan for fix?06:45
fivreI've made myself part of the root user group, and went into vi and edited myself into the sudo text thing, and I still can't use sudo...06:45
microhaxoaww shit06:45
microhaxothat wont work06:45
microhaxoit wont convert to .deb06:45
gpdwhat does it say?06:45
microhaxosudo alien Cedega-2005.rpm06:45
microhaxoLOTS O SHIT06:45
microhaxoi mean lots06:45
microhaxolike06:46
microhaxodpkg-shlibdeps: warning: could not find any packages for  (libasound.so.2)06:46
microhaxodpkg-shlibdeps: warning: unable to find dependency information for shared library libasound (soname 2, path , dependency field Depends)06:46
microhaxo10x more06:46
gpdapt-get install libasound06:46
gpdbla bla06:46
gpdrpm dependencies are *painful*06:46
fivreso, how do I make myself a sudoer again?06:46
microhaxosudo -s06:47
cthulfuegoThose are WARNINGS, not ERRORS.06:47
gpdsudo /etc/sudoers06:47
cthulfuegofivre: Are you on the shell?06:47
microhaxoit didnt make the rpm06:47
gpdsudo vim /etc/sudoers06:47
microhaxoIT MADE a damn FOLDER AGAIN06:47
microhaxonot a .deb06:47
microhaxo:|06:47
gpdadd yourlogin   ALL=(ALL) ALL06:47
fivrectulfuego/gpd: yes, and that's what I did06:47
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gpdit is not making a deb due to failed dependencies.. you must fix them06:47
microhaxoomg06:48
microhaxohow do i fix06:48
microhaxo:|06:48
fivreand It still doesn't work06:48
cthulfuegofivre: Ok. Run 'adduser <yourlogin> admin'06:48
pfphmm.. have you seen this: xcftopnm: protocol error (1) at /usr/lib/perl5/Gimp/Net.pm line 67. (ERROR)06:48
gpdmicrohaxo: reboot into windows and play there ;-P06:48
fivreI don't seem to have a user group named admin... I added to the root group, which didn't seem to help either :(06:49
gpdlol06:49
gpdfivre: if you are running ubuntu you should be in sudo automatically06:49
gpdfivre: what did you do to break it?06:49
cthulfuegofivre: When the machine boots up normally, can your user account login ok?06:49
fivreyes06:49
tiglionabbithe said he messed up from the users and groups manager06:49
Codeman7ok06:49
fivreit just can't sudo anymore06:49
Codeman7so I'm trying to compile a program... it says "no suitable cc found in path"06:50
tiglionabbitso what he needs to do is boot as root from grub06:50
Codeman7what do i do?06:50
tiglionabbitCodeman7: sudo apt-get install build-essential06:50
Codeman7Thank you :)06:50
fivreI also tried to add a user of the same name as the original, but it can't log in06:50
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tiglionabbitfivre, you simly need to boot as root.  I don't know how to do it but I know it's possible.  Read about GRUB06:53
tiglionabbit*simply06:53
fivreno, I did that06:53
tiglionabbitthen visudo06:53
gpdfivre: http://www.linuxhelp.ca/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=3&t=628506:53
gpdsorry that was meant for microhaxo06:53
gpdfivre: just edit /etc/passwd and /etc/groups by hand and make sure it is correct06:54
gpdfivre: did you try su - ?06:54
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Codeman7how do I compile a c file?06:55
Codeman7gcc -o name.c name.o?06:55
gpdCodeman7: s/name.o/name/06:55
_Catname.o -o is redundant06:55
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Codeman7ok, thanks06:55
Codeman7got it06:55
fivrethat gets an 'Authentication Failure'06:55
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gpdfivre: su - should be your root password06:56
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gpdfivre: you can boot into single user to change root password... grub single06:56
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gpdsudo is your own password (as you know I hope)06:56
fivrehmm...06:57
family_Does a heatsink fan blow in or out?06:57
PlutoPrimeanyone knows of a email checker app for gnome that doesn't crash/fail in some strange manner like mail-notification06:57
HrdwrBoBfamily_: it blows onto the heatsink06:57
family_thanks06:57
family_i love this channel :)06:58
gpdthis channel is freaking crazy!06:58
gpdit's like 1995 all over again ;-)06:58
gpdthose debian boys would lolz to see this06:58
jsgotangcoheh06:58
Codeman7I need to rip a .asf to an actual windows media file... can anyone help me?06:58
Codeman7I think mplayer can do it, but I don't know how06:59
gpdyou say 99.999% of this in #debian you'd be kick in 3 secs06:59
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gpdCodeman7: are you doing 27 things at one or something?06:59
Codeman7gpd: yeah.06:59
family_HrdwrBoB:, is there anyway besides turning a fan on to see which direction it blows?06:59
PlutoPrimeso gnome does not have an email checking app???07:00
PlutoPrimebah07:00
gpdfamily_: look at the fan fins ...07:00
HrdwrBoBfamily_: all computer fans spin clockwise07:00
family_yes...07:00
family_ok07:00
gpdPlutoPrime: which gnome?07:00
pfpPlutoPrime: gnome-biff it was called i think, an applet07:00
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family_i'm confused07:00
pfpPlutoPrime: gnubiff07:01
family_If i wanted to make a fan blow down, how would i figure it out07:01
family_my brain is spinning in circles lol07:01
family_i think i need to draw a picture in the gimp07:01
pfpheh07:01
pfpthe fans have small arrows on them btw :)07:02
family_where?07:02
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pfpon the side07:02
gpdfamily_: if this is a cpu fan it *should work* - how difficult can it be?07:02
jemHow I get this message when try to play MIDI?ALSA lib seq_hw.c:446:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed07:02
PlutoPrimepfp, thanks.. that sounds like a good app but I forgot to mention Ineed gmail support :(07:03
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PlutoPrimemail-notification worked fine on another comp07:03
gpdgmail = use firefox extension07:03
PlutoPrimeon this one when I add the account it crashes07:03
PlutoPrimeand when I restart it, it fails to login to gmail07:03
family_gpd: what do you mean?07:03
PlutoPrimegpd, I need something that runs even when I don't have a browser07:03
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gpdPlutoPrime: there is a firefox extension for gmail07:03
gpdoh07:04
family_I just took apart my heatsink to clean out all the dust, and now i forgot which way it went on07:04
pfpoh, a cpu heatsink fan07:04
family_ya...07:04
jemHow I get this message when try to play MIDI?ALSA lib seq_hw.c:446:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed07:04
family_Got any tips?07:04
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family_I have one clue07:05
pfpimo they can blow in either direction, doesn't matter much07:05
family_More dust is on one sid then the other...07:05
family_does that mean that side was up or down?07:05
pfpdown probably, thats where the mess is07:05
family_but on a fan...07:06
family_OMG!07:06
family_im so confused07:06
family_haha07:06
family_Hardware bob, are you here?07:06
pfpa fan is a fan is a fan :)07:06
family_but i don't want to fry my CPU07:06
pfpand /me hasn't slept for some time..07:06
family_the room temperature is really high this time of year07:07
HrdwrBoBhello?07:07
HrdwrBoBthe label side of the fan goes up07:07
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family_there we go, we have an answer :)07:07
family_thanks bob07:07
family_so if the label is up the fan will blow down, right?07:07
ardob11what's a good torrent client for linux; Azureus has problems with ports07:07
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ghostlessAre there any good widget programs?07:08
family_gdesklets07:08
ghostlessok cool thanks07:08
family_yep07:08
limeralso family_ : http://www.techspot.com/vb/all/windows/t-4922-SLK900-heatsink-fan-blowing-OUT--13-degrees-LOWER-temps.html07:08
HrdwrBoBfamily_: correct07:08
family_Great, thanks a lot bob07:08
family_thats a good tip to know07:08
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HrdwrBoBardob11: if azureus isn't working, then others won't work either07:09
ardob11HrdwrBob: bittornado works but its annoying with all the windows07:09
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fivrefinally07:10
fivredarn thing was writing to a tmp file07:10
ardob11i had the same problem in windows, bitcomet works but not azureus and I dont' have access to the firewall07:10
fivrenow I just need to find a way to make Xchat stop sucking (or find a better client), and make my fancy mouse worth something07:11
b0xykind of a n00b question about X11 and ubuntu?07:12
Codeman7fivre: irssi is nice07:12
naliothardob11: use "gnu screen" and btdownloadcurses.py <<<found in most bittorrent based proggys07:13
b0xyI'm having trouble getting it to go to the resolution I want in Gnome07:13
microhaxoGuys07:13
microhaxohow the HELL07:13
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microhaxook07:13
microhaxothats it07:13
fivreisn't that one all text?07:13
Codeman7fivre: I guess... it's nice though07:13
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fivreI want my XiRCON-kano back :(07:13
microhaxoOk07:13
microhaxohow do i install wine?07:14
LinuxNITwhat program does ubuntu use to auto mount file systems?07:14
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paxonAnyone knows a good perl color logs program?07:17
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kakaltowould anyone here just put some unfamiliar os onto your computer, with no indication if it'll work, and no idea what it's like?07:18
Bisclaveretdoes anyone in here know much about x-chat and character sets?07:19
kakaltolike, if you'd heard quite a lot of bad things about it, especially?07:19
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Bisclaveretkakalto: trying to install OS/2? ;)07:20
kakaltolol, actually I was wanting to trial WinXP, but.... there's no evaluation for downlod >_>07:20
kakalto*download07:20
b0xycan someone help me with a little GUI config problem? I just need to get it to display 800x600 instead of 640x***07:20
microhaxoGuys, i have the AMD 64 kernel of kubuntu, HOW CAN I DLOAD and install WINE please.07:21
b0xyit feels like I'm close to getting it I just don't know enough to figure out what's wrong07:21
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cthulfuegomicrohaxo: haha.07:23
cthulfuegomicrohaxo: Wine doesn't run on amd64.07:23
microhaxowtf07:23
microhaxocant i run it in 32bit mode?07:23
microhaxoits a damn amd 64 it can run 32 bit07:23
cthulfuegomicrohaxo: Sure, you'll need a 32bit chroot.07:24
microhaxowtf does that mean?07:24
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microhaxoim new damn07:25
microhaxoi have gone too far on this kernel to REINSTALL EVERYTHING..07:25
limermaybe this will help microhaxo: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29996&highlight=wine+amd6407:25
b0xycthulfuego: you mind helping me quick with GUI probleM?07:25
cthulfuegob0xy: What gui problem?07:26
b0xyI can't seem to get it to display in 800x600 mode07:26
cthulfuegob0xy: What video card?07:26
Bisclaveretdoes anyone in here know what charset i would need to be in (using X-Chat) to properly join a channel with a  in the name?07:26
Bisclaveretutf-8 it looks alright to me but i'm really joining a channel with <name-backslash-copyright-dotted A> or somesuch. ISO8859-15 looks allright to other users, but i still create a new channel07:26
b0xyATI Technologies, Inc. Mach64 VT (264 VT)07:27
cthulfuegoBisclaveret: utf8 or anything with -15 in it07:27
b0xythat's what's auto-detected07:27
lamontwhat do we have for editing pdf's, I wonder...07:27
microhaxowine works fine on amd6407:27
b0xyI have all the monitor settings set exactly07:27
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cthulfuegob0xy: *nod* Did you run 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and enable higher resolutions?07:27
alex__hey, guys, i was trying to install Age of Empires with Cedega and got some problems - plz help07:27
alex__alex@ubuntu:~$ sudo cedega /mnt/cdrom/aoesetup.exe07:27
alex__wine: '/home/alex/.transgaming/wineserver-ubuntu' is not owned by you07:27
alex__alex@ubuntu:~$ sudo chown alex /home/alex/.transgaming/wineserver-ubuntu07:27
alex__alex@ubuntu:~$ sudo cedega /mnt/cdrom/aoesetup.exe07:27
alex__wine: '/home/alex/.transgaming/wineserver-ubuntu' is not owned by you07:27
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TestDummyAnybody know much about tweaking Gnome?07:27
b0xycthulfuego: yes07:27
Quest-MasterTestDummy: What for?07:27
Bisclaveretcthulfuego: every time i try i simply create a new channel with me in it, with the same name as the channel already there, instead of joining the channel07:28
b0xyI disabled all resoltuions except 800x600 in xorg.conf07:28
TestDummyI'm trying to use a dark background, with a transparent panel, and the black text doesn't show up well on a dark background.07:28
TestDummyAnyway to change the text colour?07:28
Quest-MasterMmm, yeah07:28
cthulfuegoBisclaveret: Hmmm.07:28
Codeman7uuuugh07:28
Codeman7mplayer takes FOREVER to compile07:28
b0xycthulfuego: I'm using 24bit. should I try switching down to something else? 16 bit?07:28
b0xycthulfuego: it's just in Gnome GUI that I have problems with it07:28
cthulfuegob0xy: Try can try, but it shouldn't make a difference.07:28
TestDummySomebody told me before it was theme dependant but...07:29
alex__are there any other ways to change ownership of directory besides  command chown?07:29
Quest-MasterTestDummy: Check /etc/fonts/fonts.conf and see if you can change the colors there07:29
cthulfuegob0xy: Are there other options in System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution?07:29
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cthulfuegoalex__: no07:29
b0xycthulfuego: ok yeah. that messed it up07:29
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TestDummyEck..07:30
TestDummy"DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE.07:30
TestDummyIT WILL BE REPLACED WHEN FONTCONFIG IS UPDATED."07:30
alex__cthulfuego but why wine argue with me that i still don't own "/home/alex/.transgaming/wineserver-ubuntu"07:30
b0xycthulfuego: no. the only option is 640x40007:31
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RuffianSoldierhavent used linux in months :d07:31
TestDummyI don't see much about font colours in there anyway07:31
alex__RuffianSoldier !07:31
microhaxoWtf07:31
cthulfuegob0xy: Did it also only show 640x400 when you didn't have specific monitor info in xorg.conf?07:31
b0xycthulfuego: yes07:31
microhaxois it ILLEGAL to add a line into the sources.list?07:31
cthulfuegob0xy: What monitor do you have?07:31
microhaxo deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/07:31
microhaxo deb-src http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/07:31
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b0xycthulfuego: I had to input the specific monitor refresh and sync to even get into GUI07:32
b0xycthulfuego: Pavilion M4007:32
alex__alex@ubuntu:~$ sudo cedega /mnt/cdrom/aoesetup.exe07:32
alex__wine: '/home/alex/.transgaming/wineserver-ubuntu' is not owned by you07:32
alex__alex@ubuntu:~$ sudo chown alex /home/alex/.transgaming/wineserver-ubuntu07:32
alex__alex@ubuntu:~$ sudo cedega /mnt/cdrom/aoesetup.exe07:32
alex__wine: '/home/alex/.transgaming/wineserver-ubuntu' is not owned by you07:32
alex__   07:32
microhaxoYO07:32
microhaxohow the hell07:32
alex__and again and again07:32
kvidellahck07:32
microhaxowhy cant i add these lines to sources.list?07:32
microhaxo deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/07:32
microhaxo deb-src http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/07:32
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kvidellYou broke bitchx07:32
cthulfuegoalex__: Why are you running cedega as root?07:32
kvidellgood job07:32
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alex__i don't think i run it as root07:33
microhaxoYO why cant i add these damn lines to sources.list07:33
microhaxo!07:33
ubotuWish i knew, microhaxo07:33
microhaxo deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/07:33
microhaxo deb-src http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/07:33
microhaxoit says07:33
cthulfuegoalex__: Yes, you do.07:33
Quest-Masteralex__: sudo makes it so07:33
alex__or you mean i don't need to use command sudo?07:33
microhaxoE: Malformed line 30 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)07:33
kvidellwhat's the error?07:33
kvidellmmm....07:33
kvidelloh07:33
microhaxo?07:33
alex__ha, i'll try to do it without sudo07:33
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kvidellyou need to tell it a distrobution at the end I think07:33
microhaxo?07:33
kvidelljust throw the word "hoary" on the end of the line07:33
TestDummyThere's got to be an option somewhere for this..07:33
microhaxok07:33
kvidell(after a space, of course)07:34
limermicrohaxo: maybe sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list  ?07:34
GMAN2003anyone know of an app to monitor temps from the cpu and mainboard as well as current cpu speed and such....??07:34
microhaxoshit07:34
alex__damn, shit07:34
alex__alex@ubuntu:~$ sudo cedega /mnt/cdrom/aoesetup.exe07:34
alex__wine: '/home/alex/.transgaming/wineserver-ubuntu' is not owned by you07:34
alex__alex@ubuntu:~$ sudo chown alex /home/alex/.transgaming/wineserver-ubuntu07:34
alex__alex@ubuntu:~$ sudo cedega /mnt/cdrom/aoesetup.exe07:34
alex__wine: '/home/alex/.transgaming/wineserver-ubuntu' is not owned by you07:34
microhaxoE: Malformed line 30 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)07:34
microhaxostill says it07:34
Quest-Masteralex__: No sudo!07:34
microhaxo:|07:34
microhaxowtf07:34
alex__alex@ubuntu:~$ cedega /mnt/cdrom/aoesetup.exe07:34
alex__wine: '/home/alex/.transgaming/wineserver-ubuntu' must not be accessible by other users07:34
Quest-Master:\07:34
kvidellyou messed up the install by running it sudo07:34
TestDummyHm..07:35
kvidellchown it to alex:alex and try again07:35
alex__huh?07:35
kvidellthat directory07:35
kvidellsudo chown alex:alex that-directory-here07:35
kvidellthen run it again as your user, sans sudo07:35
alex__ok07:35
TestDummyGMAN2003: Something like that works with lmsensors?07:35
kvidellthat directory/that file07:35
kvidellwhatever it was that it was mad about07:35
GMAN2003any sensors off the mobo's bios07:35
alex__alex@ubuntu:~$ sudo chown alex:alex /home/alex/.transgaming/wineserver-ubuntu07:36
alex__alex@ubuntu:~$ cedega /mnt/cdrom/aoesetup.exe07:36
alex__wine: '/home/alex/.transgaming/wineserver-ubuntu' must not be accessible by other users07:36
alex__alex@ubuntu:~$ sudo cedega /mnt/cdrom/aoesetup.exe07:36
alex__wine: '/home/alex/.transgaming/wineserver-ubuntu' is not owned by you07:36
kvidellas for microhaxo: pm me a few lines of your sources.lst that have other sources plus those07:36
kvidellhm07:36
TestDummyThat's what that package does last I checked07:36
kvidellokay07:36
kvidelldo it again to that directory this time07:36
microhaxok07:36
kvidellit was mad about the file, now it's mad about it's parent directory07:36
RuffianSoldierhow do i get apt-get to fully work? i havent used Ubuntu in so long i forget07:36
b0xycthulfuego: it doesn't seem to matter what info I put in for my monitor/screen. I try different settings and still get 640x400 in the GUI Resolution options07:36
bob_RuffianSoldier, "fully work"?07:37
RuffianSoldieridk07:37
limerwhen something is in the clipboard, where is it actually located in ubuntu?07:37
RuffianSoldieri cant download fluxbox....07:37
RuffianSoldierits non-existent in repos07:37
alex__ha, the same thing actually07:37
alex__alex@ubuntu:~$ sudo chown alex:alex /home/alex/.transgaming07:37
alex__alex@ubuntu:~$ cedega /mnt/cdrom/aoesetup.exe07:37
alex__wine: '/home/alex/.transgaming/wineserver-ubuntu' must not be accessible by other users07:37
alex__alex@ubuntu:~$ sudo cedega /mnt/cdrom/aoesetup.exe07:37
alex__wine: '/home/alex/.transgaming/wineserver-ubuntu' is not owned by you07:37
microhaxoyo guys, what the hell is wrong with this sources.list it wont let me add the two last lines to dload wine..07:38
microhaxohttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/8507:38
cthulfuegoalex__: chmod 600 /home/alex/.transgaming/wineserver-ubuntu07:38
b0xycthulfuego: any ideas?07:38
cthulfuegoalex__: And stop running cedega through sudo07:38
cthulfuegob0xy: Still looking...07:38
RuffianSoldiernvm im out07:38
RuffianSoldiercya07:38
alex__alex@ubuntu:~$ chmod 600 /home/alex/.transgaming/wineserver-ubuntu07:39
alex__alex@ubuntu:~$ cedega /mnt/cdrom/aoesetup.exe07:39
alex__wine: chdir to /home/alex/.transgaming/wineserver-ubuntu : Permission denied07:39
GMAN2003so have you guys heard that Verizon is doing fiberoptic to your house!!! 30mbps if you can get it!! holy balls07:39
cthulfuegob0xy: What do you have the refresh rates set to at the moment?07:39
microhaxo30mbps is 100 dollars07:39
GMAN200320007:39
microhaxo15mbit is 4007:39
cthulfuegoalex__: chmod 700 /home/alex/.transgaming/wineserver-ubuntu07:39
microhaxo:D07:39
cthulfuegoGMAN2003: there is no verizon here07:39
b0xycthulfuego: HorizSync    31.468-54.007:39
b0xyVertRefresh 56.0-85.007:39
limermicrohaxo: I just edited my sources.list with nano without issues07:40
limerdid you use "sudo"?07:40
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cthulfuegob0xy: *nod* ok.07:40
TestDummy"VertRefresh Strobelight - 85.0" XD07:40
alex__alex@ubuntu:~$ chmod 700 /home/alex/.transgaming/wineserver-ubuntu07:40
alex__alex@ubuntu:~$ cedega /mnt/cdrom/aoesetup.exe07:40
TestDummy56 is terrible07:40
TestDummyHeh.07:41
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GMAN2003na matter what the telco, you can get verizon as your home phone, the local telco then runs the fiber, verizon is just the middle man07:41
TestDummySorry.07:41
b0xyold HP Pavilion pull07:41
b0xy:P07:41
alex__alex@ubuntu:~$ chmod 700 /home/alex/.transgaming/wineserver-ubuntu07:41
alex__alex@ubuntu:~$ cedega /mnt/cdrom/aoesetup.exe07:41
b0xythis comp is a Nu Tech 17in LCD07:41
microhaxoGUYS07:41
b0xyso much easier on the eyes07:41
alex__/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega//winex/bin/wine: cannot find '/mnt/cdrom/aoesetup.exe'07:41
Myrttihrmrhm07:41
cthulfuegob0xy: Does it run in better resolutions under other OSes?07:41
Myrttiknitting is fun07:41
microhaxoi now see winetools in my synaptic, but i cannot install it?07:41
microhaxoi click install07:41
microhaxoand it just doesnt select it07:42
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Sword-AwAyBuenas07:42
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Sword-AwAyalguien disponible?07:42
Sword-AwAyxD07:42
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b0xycthulfuego: it runs fine with XP at 800x60007:42
cthulfuegob0xy: Ok.07:42
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limermicrohaxo: if the package name is winetools.  go to the command line and try:  sudo apt-get install winetools07:43
limerclose synaptic07:43
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alex__THANKS EVERYONE! IT WORKS!07:43
microhaxol07:43
microhaxok07:43
GMAN2003testdummy, so after i install libsensors, where the crap am i running it from?07:43
microhaxowtf07:44
microhaxoThe following packages have unmet dependencies:07:44
microhaxo  winetools: Depends: wine (>= 0.0.20040914) but it is not installable07:44
microhaxo?07:44
cthulfuegob0xy: Can you just try 8bit?07:45
GMAN2003i am struggling to run my installed apps, need help....  *sigh07:46
b0xycthulfuego: one sec07:46
limermicrohaxo: lotsa 'wtf'  :P07:46
microhaxoyea what the hell is that about07:46
limermicrohaxo: might try:  sudo apt-get remove wine07:46
PlutoPrimeGMAN2003, libsnesors is a library for sensors07:46
PlutoPrimeit's not an app07:46
PlutoPrimeyou cant run libraries07:46
PlutoPrimewhat did you instal libsensors for?07:46
limerthen could always try:  sudo apt-get install wine07:46
microhaxoPackage wine is not installed, so not removed07:46
cthulfuegoGMAN2003: if libsensors is installed and lm-sensors is installed, run 'sudo sensors-detect'07:47
GMAN2003well is there such a thing as an app to detect cpu and mobo temps?07:47
microhaxoThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or07:47
microhaxois only available from another source07:47
microhaxoE: Package wine has no installation candidate07:47
PlutoPrimeGMAN2003, listen cthulfuego  :)07:47
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cthulfuegoGMAN2003: .. after you have installed modules and configured them, you can run 'sensors'.07:47
limermicrohaxo: you might try googling some of your answers07:47
microhaxoyea07:47
microhaxotell me about it07:47
b0xycthulfuego: that loads and lets me choose different resolution settings in GUI07:47
b0xycthulfuego: only problem is that it's 8bit so viewing it sucks ass07:48
cthulfuegob0xy: Is 800x600 available now?07:48
limermicrohaxo: I haven't had the chance to play with WINE, but might since I really miss Irfanview :D07:48
b0xycthulfuego: yes. several choices are available07:48
cthulfuegob0xy: Hmm... so X doesn't think the screen (or gfx card) can go high enough.07:48
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microhaxolimer07:49
limer?07:49
microhaxoim gonna dload the SOURCE from winehq07:49
microhaxocan you help me manually install?07:49
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GMAN2003cthulfuego, okay, ran that, went through the options, where can i see any temps, specs, etc.??07:49
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aisowneri just tried installing the new ATI driver .. but when i do a fglrx .. i dont see my ati or radeon 9800 . .i see a Mesa driver ?07:50
b0xycthulfuego: so what should I do about it?07:50
limermicrohaxo: wish I could man but I should probably be off to bed soon.  besides, I'm a noob too :D  I found most of your answers by googling or using my knowledge of cli to help07:50
limer:D07:50
b0xysomeway I can reconfigure or choose a different driver?07:50
PlutoPrimeGMAN2003, once you get your temps etc showing checkout the app "gdesklets" , it uses the sensors to show the temps in pretty display on your desktop07:50
aisowneranyone know why its saying mesa instead of fglrx ?07:50
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PlutoPrimeit does a lot more than that too.. lots of applets for gdesklets07:51
limermicrohaxo: and ubuntuguide.org helps a lot07:51
microhaxoyea, but07:51
microhaxoim runnin the damn amd64 version07:51
microhaxoso everything is fubar07:51
bob_lol07:52
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microhaxolol07:52
microhaxoit runs fine07:52
GMAN2003Plutoprime, so once i download gdesklets, where will i run that app from?07:52
microhaxobut they dont have the packages set up at all07:52
goofyheadedpunkI did a server install, and need a compiler. I don't have an internet connection, so I'd like to apt-get from my CD. According to this page: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-basico.en.html#s-cdrom I can issue the command "apt-cdrom -d /media/cdrom add" to add cdrom to sources.list. I do that and then issue "apt-get install build-essentials", but it doesn't work. I'm told that it "Couldn't find package build-essen07:52
microhaxoOk guys i have the wine.rpm07:52
PlutoPrimeGMAN2003, it will install an icon in your gnome menu somewhere07:52
microhaxohow do i install?07:52
b0xycthulfuego: what do I do about it?07:53
PlutoPrimeGMAN2003, do a google search for gdesklets and go to their websites07:53
microhaxook guys, i have the wine.rpm how can i install this?07:53
PlutoPrimeGMAN2003, you have to download modules or applets to view the temperature07:53
GMAN2003bullshit it will, shit never shows up.....07:53
goofyheadedpunkAny clues as to why this isn't working?07:53
GMAN2003i download it using synaptic07:53
PlutoPrimeyea07:53
PlutoPrimesynaptic should have version .3407:53
alex__/home/alex/TransGaming_Drive/Program Files/Microsoft Games/Age of Empires II07:54
PlutoPrimeI think gdesklets goes under Accessories07:54
alex__alex@ubuntu:~$ cd /home/alex/TransGaming_Drive/Program Files/Microsoft Games/Age of Empires II07:54
alex__bash: cd: /home/alex/TransGaming_Drive/Program: No such file or directory07:54
alex__alex@ubuntu:~$07:54
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alex__what i should type instead of "Program Files"?07:54
GMAN2003plutoprime; heres the other thing, i swear i must have downloaded a good 100 different new apps and programs, but they do not show up on my gnome? any ideas?07:55
PlutoPrimeGMAN2003, not every app shows up in your gnome menu, specially 3rd party crap you find on the net07:55
PlutoPrimeGMAN2003, open up a terminal and type the command to run the app07:55
PlutoPrimeor click the Application menu and click Run .. then type the name07:55
alex__any ideas how to change "long names" in console?07:55
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Quest-Masteralex__: Put it in ""s07:56
PlutoPrimeGMAN2003, gnome menu system still needs work.. and so does linux package management... don't expect the identical behavior of windows installers07:56
Ghetek!seen kassetra07:56
ubotukassetra <~kassetra@c-67-171-201-213.hsd1.or.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 2d 20m 14s ago, saying: 'ds installs just fine, and both are runnign.'.07:56
david__I'm having trouble getting a new Ubunto installation to recognize the 1280x768 screen on my Sony TR3A.  Checked Google and found some settings for the "Monitor" section of Xorg.conf, but that didn't do the trick.  Any ideas?07:57
GMAN2003oh yeah, i discovered that within the first half hour07:57
GMAN2003so frickin manual about installing crap..... learning patience07:57
Seveasalex__, either escap epaces, like Program\ Files or use quotes like "/blabal/Program Files"07:57
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PlutoPrimeGMAN2003, just be patient and play around with linux for fun... once you get comfortable with things it will be a joy.. but patience!07:57
Seveasdavid__: GNULinuxer: To find out ho you can change your display's resolution, go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:58
PlutoPrimeGMAN2003, and linux is a lot younger than windows.. but see how far it has come!07:58
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SeveasPlutoPrime, ENOTTRUE07:58
Seveaslinux and windows are of about the same age07:58
anacronPlutoPrime: playing with linux is like "crash boom wtf, i can fix it, i'll reinstall it"07:58
alex__ok, it works with "", 10x07:58
anacroncan't07:58
alex__;p07:58
Seveasand linux was there before windows NT was07:58
GMAN2003oh yeah, if i could get comfortable to configure things the way i would like, it would be glorious and light years ahead of windows..... the potential is there07:58
Seveasanacron, that's plying with windows :)07:58
PlutoPrimewell.. I have been using linux for 7 years...07:59
PlutoPrimeand I have used distros like gentoo where I compiled everything from scratch...07:59
GMAN2003yeah, about 7 hours total now07:59
PlutoPrimeso I understand your frustration :)07:59
anacronSeveas: no, you can't play with windows, because it crashes before you start07:59
GMAN2003i like its networking characteristics way better than windows, that is a huge plus07:59
PlutoPrimeI remember the first days hehe07:59
b0xygah08:00
b0xyI can't figure out why this doesn't work08:00
GMAN2003i was about to throw my box out the window just learning how to install java08:00
Seveasanacron, :)08:00
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GMAN2003what a nightmare........ *sigh*08:00
PlutoPrimeGMAN2003, go to www.ubuntuforums.org08:00
SeveasGMAN2003: http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/RestrictedFormats08:00
PlutoPrimevery nice place to learn how to do things in linux08:00
SeveasGMAN2003: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 08:00
SeveasPlutoPrime, again ENOTTRUE08:00
PlutoPrimedo a search for any topic you are having problems with08:01
GMAN2003well yeah, i got all that down now08:01
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Seveasforums contain too much crap08:01
Seveasbetter look at the wiki08:01
GMAN2003flash, adobe, etc..... not bad now08:01
GMAN2003frickin sucked tho08:01
GMAN2003oh its much easier to install than that Seveas08:01
thoreauputicSeveas: and the mailing list08:01
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PlutoPrimeSeveas, I don't see you trying to help the fellow.. and "crap" is a very relative word when it comes to information08:01
GMAN2003just did it from synaptic i think, or was it terminal08:01
PlutoPrimeI have had a lot of fun looking through the forums08:01
GMAN2003oh well08:01
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SeveasPlutoPrime, I gave him links too good sources of info..08:02
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Seveasthat's helping08:02
Seveasgiving misinformation is not :)08:02
SeveasGMAN2003, ah backports or another java repository?08:02
PlutoPrimeyou are certainly entilted to your opinion regarding misinformation08:02
SeveasPlutoPrime, it's not an opinion08:03
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Seveasit's a fact08:03
anacronPlutoPrime: seveas has resqued me like 1000 times, so don't blame he gives bad information08:03
GMAN2003so what do you guys think about fedora?08:03
GMAN2003havent tried it yet08:03
PlutoPrimefor example, under howto's in the forum there is a script that installs: java, mp3, flash, ttfonts etc etc08:03
SeveasPlutoPrime, that SUCKS!08:03
GMAN2003i couldnt get their damn cds to burn, so i said f it and went ubuntu08:03
Seveasit adds backports/marillat by default08:03
Seveasthings that really should be avoided08:03
willshi anyone willing to chat with me08:03
Seveasit teaches/explains nothing08:03
anacronGMAN2003: if we would like fedora, this channel wouldn't be named ubuntu08:03
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Seveasand OUCH i'd never run a random script I got of some forum08:04
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anacronwills: chating about what?08:04
carybob2: still around?08:04
SeveasGMAN2003, compared to Ubuntu, FC4 isn't that good08:04
SeveasFC4/redhat are incompatibility galore08:04
caryseveas: i made the plunge! i am now dual booting08:04
Seveascary, nice :)08:04
caryi have SO MUCH to learn08:05
anacronim triplebooting!08:05
caryim still fighting on how to install the flashplayer plugin08:05
anacronain't that cool08:05
Seveascary, http://wiki.ubuntu.com :)08:05
willshi anacron . how r u . this is reg one network montioring tool08:05
Seveascary, simply enable universe/multiverse and apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla08:05
GMAN2003really?  i keep seeing alot of major websites having RPM packages that would seem even easier to install08:05
Seveascary: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto08:05
caryseveas: general linux... moving directories. i remember "ls" but thats it.08:05
caryahh08:05
Seveascary: http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/RestrictedFormats08:05
caryi remember reading that a bit08:06
anacronwills: :D okey...08:06
SeveasGMAN2003, rpms are inferior to debfiles08:06
willsany one knows how to config Nagios08:06
PlutoPrimeGMAN2003, ubuntu uses deb packages.. you can install rpm but I don't recommend it08:06
Seveasand apt is a great way of staying up to date and resolving dependencies08:06
Seveasrpm is all about rpm hell :)08:06
GMAN2003yeah, thats true.... i'd agree, updating with one line is nice08:06
anacronapt-get is why i use ubuntu :D08:06
willshi anacron do u know08:06
Seveasnever being able to find a good rpm/srpm sucks...08:06
anacronwills: what should i know?08:07
willsnagios configuration08:07
anacronwills: nope08:07
HrdwrBoBwills: nagios configutation is time consuming and moderately complicated08:07
willshi seveas do u know nagios configuration08:07
anacronwills: you don't have to ask personally08:07
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Seveaswills, I don't even know what nagios is, otherwise i would have helped you :)08:08
Seveaswills, maybe /usr/share/doc/nagios  or man nagios or google can help you08:08
PlutoPrimenagios is a pain in rear08:08
PlutoPrimethat's what it is08:08
HrdwrBoBthe nagios documentation is ok but it's not structured well08:08
Seveaswhat exactly is it supposd to do?08:08
PlutoPrimeenterprise network monitoring tool08:09
HrdwrBoBit's a monitoring program08:09
Seveasah :)08:09
PlutoPrimenetwork and server monitoring etc08:09
willsi want to run nagios as a network monitor08:09
SeveasI don't need that here :)08:09
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willsi installed it after that there is no proper documation in nagios websites08:09
viorkhttp://viork2.blogspot.com/ Spansh soft08:10
viorkhttp://viork2.blogspot.com/ Spansh soft08:10
viorkhttp://viork2.blogspot.com/ Spansh soft08:10
witlesswhen i log into ubuntu, immediately after entering login/pwd Xorg processor use goes to 99.9% ....  any help?  it's a dual athlon, gigabyte mobo, nvidia geforce video card...08:10
GMAN2003well im outtie, have a good one.... later08:10
willsits installed automatically. after that how to config08:10
willshi witless restart from the begining and give auto installiation08:11
witlesswills: what do you mean auto installation?08:11
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willsyes08:12
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willsany body know how to config nagios08:12
witlesswills: what do you mean by "auto installation"?08:12
tobi_is there a way for mulitple programs to use the same audio device in Ubuntu?08:13
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tiglionabbitis there a vnc client I can use in a web browser?08:13
willswhen cd boots it will ask u08:13
Seveaswills, stop repeating that often. Clearly no one knows. Ask again later or use the mailing list08:13
PlutoPrimewills, try google! :) I think the documentation is your best help08:13
tiglionabbittobi: yes08:13
willsjust enter08:13
tiglionabbit!restricted08:13
ubotuit has been said that restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats08:13
tobi_nice08:13
Seveastobi_, that's what ESD is for08:13
tobi_ahhh08:13
PlutoPrimememorizing the setup process for nagios is NOT easy08:13
tobi_i will do so08:13
caryseveas: im in the synaptic manager and i have this list of stuff but i have no idea what to do as for getting to the flash thing08:13
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Seveascary, have you enabled universe & multiverse already?08:13
tiglionabbitcary: flash?  You can install flash through firefox08:14
martinjh99Morning - Which dev package do you need for GTK progs?08:14
willshi plutoprime . can u explain me08:14
Seveastiglionabbit, bad idea...08:14
tiglionabbitwhat do you mean bad idea?08:14
tiglionabbitit worked for me08:14
Bisclaverethow do i install the CURRENT mozilla suite? is there no apt-get package?08:14
Seveashmm eek, ok good idea08:14
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Seveasflashplayer is only in marillat08:14
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martinjh99apt-get install mozilla08:14
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willsany body knows postfix08:14
PlutoPrimewills: http://www.nagios.org/docs/08:14
PlutoPrimethat's all I can do08:14
Seveascary, use the firefox plugin manager to install flash08:15
caryseveas: all i saw was each ubuntu thing listed with a check box or something telling me about if they were universe blahhhhhhhhhhhh08:15
carylet me try to find it08:15
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caryand where on earth would i put this "apt-get" crap. terminal?08:15
Seveascary, yes08:15
Bisclaveretmartinjh99: there is no mozilla package. there is mozilla-browser, which is what i want, but mozilla-browser installs 1.7.6, not the current 1.7.808:15
tiglionabbitcrap?08:16
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tiglionabbitBisclaveret: welcome to debian08:16
SeveasBisclaveret, how old is 1.7.8/08:16
willsany postfix experts08:16
Seveas?08:16
Bisclaveretlike, a week i think08:16
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SeveasBisclaveret, that'll never be in hoary08:16
tiglionabbitmany of the packages have features backported, so they are newer than the version they are marked as08:16
martinjh99Bisclaveret> Ahh right08:16
caryseveas: i dont actually see a plug in manager for firefox. whre is that?08:16
Seveashoary is stable, so no new features are introduces08:16
Seveaswait for breezy to get a newer mozilla08:17
martinjh99Which dev package do you need for GTK progs?08:17
Bisclaveret1.7.7 has been out for a long while :p08:17
tiglionabbitcary: go to a website that uses flash, such as newgrounds.com, and click on the puzzle piece icon that shows up in Flash's place08:17
_root_can someone display the o/p of PATH08:17
Seveascary, what tiglionabbit said :)08:17
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caryi tried that08:17
tobi_that ESD is great08:17
Bisclaveretit was introduced after the IDN? spoofing08:17
witlessok, my problem seems to be related to gnome.  i can start X and it works OK.  but if i run gnome-terminal in X (no window manager or anything), it locks up08:17
tobi_I just got my new laptop08:17
caryit said that i have to do it manual08:17
caryly08:17
tobi_it is an HP nc600008:17
SeveasBisclaveret, how old exactly?08:17
caryi have downloaded the file but it says i cant install it from a GUI08:17
tobi_I wiped the XP drive08:17
Seveasnewer that say, march ?08:17
thoreauputicBisclaveret: the version number in Ubuntu doesn't changes, but security fixes are applied08:17
tobi_and installed Ubuntu08:17
Bisclaveretif i had a browser, i could tell you ;)08:17
alex__installed Firestarter firewall but after lunching it says "Failed to start firewall Device eth0 is not ready" what to do?08:17
witlesscorrection:  Xorg proc use goes to 99.9% (not lock up, technically)08:17
martinjh99_Root_ Heres my path: /usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games08:17
tobi_wouldnt go back ever08:18
caryand i cant figure out how to navigate to where it is to try to run the crap in terminal08:18
transgresswhat's a good place to get wallpapers from... i need more!08:18
Seveastransgress, gnome-look.org / art.gnome.org08:18
martinjh99transgress>art.gnome.org kde-look.org for two...08:18
tiglionabbitalex__: activate eth0, you can say "ifup eth0"08:18
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thoreauputicalex__: sudo ifup eth008:18
transgressSeveas: good thinking...08:18
_root_martinjh99 : thanx.. is it for root user ?08:18
transgressthanks08:18
Bisclavereton trying to install the program from the website download, i cannot install it08:18
martinjh99_root_ nope thats my user path08:18
caryseveas: it keeps on sayin gi have to do it manually. when i get that file..what do i do with it.08:18
Bisclaveretbisclaveret@Dragon:~/mozilla$ ./mozilla-installer08:19
Bisclaveret./mozilla-installer-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory08:19
alex__alex@ubuntu:~/Programs/CrossOver$ sudo ifup eth008:19
alex__Password:08:19
alex__ifup: interface eth0 already configured08:19
tiglionabbit=\  dunno cary, worked for me.  What you can do is enable the universe and multiverse repositories, and look for the package mozilla-flashplayer08:19
caryi still cant figure out how to enable them08:19
tiglionabbitalex__: um, ifdown, then ifup again?08:19
caryi cant find anythign in the synaptic dilly08:19
_root_martinjh99 : can you send me the root's ?08:20
tiglionabbitcary: settings->repositories, click the Settings button, check the "show disabled repositories" box, and then start checking boxes08:20
Seveas/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X1108:20
carytiglionabbit: incidentally, is there an easier way than typing out tiglionabbit to say something to you (not like a pm, but a shortcut to typing a user name)08:20
martinjh99_root_  /sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin08:20
Seveascary, tig<tab>08:20
Seveasyou're gonna love tab completion08:21
tiglionabbitcary: use irssi and do what Seveas said08:21
martinjh99Seveas thanks for that - Works in XChat too!08:21
carytiglionabbit, nice Seveas nice08:21
Seveasit also works for filenames in the linux terminals :)08:21
_root_martinjh99 : thanx08:21
tiglionabbitnot all clients do it.  But yeah, you can use tab completion in many places08:21
martinjh99_root_ NP08:21
carytiglionabbit, irssi?  i JUST install linux. i know almost notlhign08:21
Seveastiglionabbit, don't scare a newbie off with irssi :)08:21
carytiglionabbit,  do ALL these boxes need to bechecked?08:21
tiglionabbitcary: it's an irc client that runs in the terminal.  There's a package on synaptic.08:21
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carylike hell i am digging into terminal yet08:22
tiglionabbitread this guide and you might like it http://f0rked.com/core/irssi08:22
caryGUI is fine for me right now.08:22
thoreauputictiglionabbit: it's installed by default in Ubuntu :)08:22
martinjh99Xchat is a nice client too.  Graphical X client!08:22
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tiglionabbitcary: linux isn't perfect.  You may find some things are a lot easier to do on the commandline.  So make time to familiarize yourself with it eventually08:23
carytiglionabbit, so now i have all those boxes checked (though ih ave no idea what it actualy did)08:23
tiglionabbitcary: it adds places for synaptic to download packages from08:23
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tiglionabbitwhen you refresh, it will grab the lists of packages from the places you selected08:23
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_root_martinjh99 : you are having ubuntu, right ?08:24
tiglionabbitthen more things will be listed in synaptic, and you can go search through it08:24
Bisclaveretso if i do an apt-get install mozilla-browser or mozilla-firefox, i'm stuck with 1.7.6 for mozilla and 1.0.2 (2 versions beind, including some very critical fixes) for firefox?08:24
martinjh99_root_ Yup - Nice little distro :)08:24
tiglionabbitBisclaveret: it is the most current version of firefox.  All features have been backported08:24
Bisclaveretwhile 1.7.8 and 1.0.4 are included in all debian packages except oldstable :/08:24
tiglionabbitthe version number is just.. wrong.  You can change it by typing about:config into your address bar and changing the version string08:25
SeveasBisclaveret, for breezy there are newerv version. For hoary there will just be security patches08:25
Seveasand /me has just waken up, so forgive me my bad spelling :)08:25
kafeinelol08:26
kafeineBisclaveret, backports08:26
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carytiglionabbit, and then you said to "look for the package mozilla-flashplayer"....where? what?....HUH?08:27
tiglionabbithm, direct question and then disappearence08:28
alxwindis there any other command to activate eth0 besides "ifup"?08:28
tiglionabbithm.08:28
pfpip link set eth0 up .)08:28
alxwindsorry08:28
Seveasalxwind, try ifdown to deactivate and retry ifup08:28
tiglionabbitthere is the ifconfig ones08:28
alxwindi tried08:28
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Seveastiglionabbit, ifup calls these :)08:29
caryi guess i got disconnected08:29
willsanyanyyyy08:29
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alxwindfirestarter doesn't load08:29
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tiglionabbithttps://wiki.ubuntu.com//WiFiHowto08:29
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alxwindalex@ubuntu:~/Programs/CrossOver$ sudo ifdown eth008:29
alxwindInternet Systems Consortium DHCP Client V3.0.108:29
alxwindCopyright 2004 Internet Systems Consortium.08:29
alxwindAll rights reserved.08:29
alxwindFor info, please visit http://www.isc.org/products/DHCP08:29
alxwindppp0: unknown hardware address type 51208:29
alxwindsit0: unknown hardware address type 77608:29
tiglionabbitcary: in synaptic, there's a search button08:29
alxwindppp0: unknown hardware address type 51208:30
alxwindsit0: unknown hardware address type 77608:30
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tiglionabbitclick on it, and search for flash08:30
Seveasalxwind, read the topic08:30
carytiglionabbit, i typed in flash..noting came up08:30
SeveasDO NOT paste in here08:30
Seveastiglionabbit, flash is not in multiverse08:30
Seveasonly in marillat08:30
tiglionabbitSeveas: really?  I see flashplayer-mozilla in my list..08:30
paxonguys, how do I go back to gdm and make gnome default?08:31
Seveasawkward08:31
martinjh99paxon> sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm - Choose GDM08:31
Seveaspaxon, select gnome from the gdm list and it'll ask you whether gnome should be the default08:31
paxonSeveas, tried that, didnt work.08:32
tiglionabbitto get back to gdm, just log out08:32
paxonmartinjh99, ty.08:32
martinjh99paxon> NP08:32
tiglionabbitdidn't work how?  When you click on sessions, select gnome, and log in, does it not ask you if you want it to be default?08:32
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paxonworked like a charm :)08:33
kafeinelol08:33
Seveasahhhh08:33
Seveascary, there is no flashplayer for macs08:34
tiglionabbit=[08:34
thoreauputicpaxon: lucky for you there was a mind reader in the chan ;)08:34
tiglionabbitthat sucks.  None for amd64 eitehr08:34
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paxonheh08:34
Seveasmacromedia refuses to make one08:34
carySeveas, for ubuntu ppc, there is no flash thing?08:34
tiglionabbitwhat?  MACromedia?  But Flash was originally developed for Macs08:34
thoreauputicpaxon: gdm!= gnome ;)08:34
Seveascary, no08:34
Seveastiglionabbit, i mean linux on macs08:35
carydoh08:35
tiglionabbit=\08:35
Seveasfor macs running macos there is a flashplayer, but stupid macromedia doesn't make one for macs on linux08:35
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smudge8Seveas: its kinda funny, given that its currently running on a BSD-style system anyway...08:37
tiglionabbitis it possible to hack it into place?08:37
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tiglionabbitlike, crossover, or something08:38
carytiglionabbit, mani hope so08:38
Seveascrossover is for x8608:38
Seveasand windows apps08:38
Seveasnot for macs08:38
tiglionabbit=\08:38
carywhere is a good place for General linux commands. as in hwo to navigate in terminal, etc08:38
cary(i have googled and found a couple, b ut i figure you guys know something better)08:38
Seveascary, www.tldp.org08:38
thoreauputictiglionabbit: mac on linux is one way to use stuff like flash and media codecs on PPC08:38
tiglionabbitcary: have an ebook08:38
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Seveaslook for a shell command tutorial08:38
imaekDoes anyone know of a good Linux Download Manager?08:39
carytiglionabbit, eh?08:39
tiglionabbitnick-zap.home.comcast.net/stuff/unix.pdf08:39
paxonwget?08:39
tiglionabbitalso, there's the rute book08:39
Seveasimaek, wget or gwget are good08:39
imaekOk08:39
thoreauputicimaek: d4x (downloader for X)08:39
tiglionabbithttp://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/book/08:39
carytiglionabbit, are you saying you have one08:39
imaekok08:39
caryahha08:39
tiglionabbitI just pasted the links08:40
carytiglionabbit, got it08:40
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carythank you!08:40
tiglionabbityou're welcome08:40
cary(this is why i love open source communities)08:40
tiglionabbit=3 glad to be of assistance08:40
tiglionabbithope you learn to love the terminal.  It'll be fun when you start ssh-ing around08:41
Seveastiglionabbit, clusterssh is eve nicer08:41
Seveas:)08:41
tiglionabbit?08:41
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schasinow what is that?08:41
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Seveasapt-cache show clusterssh08:42
Seveas:)08:42
carytiglionabbit, what would i do ssh'ing?08:42
tiglionabbitoh cool08:42
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carySeveas, again, where would i type somehting LIKE apt-wahtever08:42
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Seveascary, in a terminal08:42
Seveasapplications->system tools->terminal08:42
tiglionabbitcary: ssh (secure shell) allows you to use other computers remotely08:42
alxwind10x, seveas08:43
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carytiglionabbit, yeah, thats what iw as thinking. im wondering if i will ever have a need to do that08:43
Whistlerhow to install tar gz archives?I extracted and now what shoul i do?08:43
Whistlerhow to install tar gz archives?I extracted and now what should i do?08:43
tiglionabbityou could be anywhere, on any computer, and open an ssh client and use your own computer at home08:43
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SeveasWhistler, read the files README and INSTALL08:43
caryoh lord, i could set up my mom to dual boot her PC and fix crap for her (kidding)08:43
SeveasWhistler, what are you installing?08:43
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tiglionabbitWhistler: tar gz is just compression.  There will be things in there.  Generally there's a README or INSTALL file you can read08:44
jaggiI'm trying to get totem to work.. or actually, I'm trying to get a DVD to play :)08:44
tiglionabbitjaggi08:44
tiglionabbit!restricted08:44
ubotusomebody said restricted was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats08:44
RaskallSeveas: how do I start clusterssh?08:45
Seveasubotu restricted is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:45
ubotu...but restricted is already something else...08:45
Whistlernvu08:45
Whistleri am trying to install nvu08:45
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Whistlerthere is no readme or install08:45
carytiglionabbit, so lets say i ssh into my home box (which is incidentally a powerbook, so it could in theory go with me), what woudl i do? i mean is it like database crap or ..what. it'd be terminal...but to what end. i guess im asking for an example of what you might do by ssh'ing to home08:45
lhb!ubuntuguide08:46
ubotuhmm... ubuntuguide is a helpful guide for new users located at http://ubuntuguide.org08:46
tiglionabbitWhistler: is there a makefile, an autogen.sh, an install.sh, a binary executable, or what?08:46
tiglionabbitubuntuguide doesn't teach you anything though08:46
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thoreauputiccary: you can do pretty much anything remotely on a machine, given the right configuration08:47
Whistlertiglionabbit theres none of these files08:47
carythoreauputic, but command line right. not from a gui. from a gui??08:47
tiglionabbitcary: well if you're going to cary it around anyway it probably wouldn't matter, but there are a lot of possibilities for using machines remotely.  I have ssh access to several machines in florida, on my college campus, and a few friends08:47
thoreauputiccary: cary you can forward X, or use for example freenx to use the gui08:47
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tiglionabbitcary: actually, you can run any program including graphical programs through ssh, with the right configuration.  Ubuntu is already set up to do this08:48
caryooooooo08:48
carynice!08:48
tiglionabbityou'd just need to be able to recieve it on the client side08:48
carynow im getting excited08:48
caryi just need to start learning08:48
Whistlerso anybody will help me to istall ?08:48
tiglionabbitlike for instance, I can run graphical programs from my campus unix network remotely08:48
RaskallI miss my ubuntu cds. *sob*08:48
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thoreauputiccary: for example, on my home network I can use my old pentium box to run heavy apps on my 2gig 512MB machine08:48
microhaxoGuys help me compile WINE08:49
tiglionabbitWhistler: it really depends what's in the archive08:49
jaggiworking on it working on it working oni t08:49
tiglionabbitWhistler: um, ls it and paste it in #flood08:49
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Whistlertiglionabbit ok i dont need anymore i installed it using apt-get08:49
Whistlerthx anyway08:49
tiglionabbitokay good08:49
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carythoreauputic, how do you mean you use one to run on the other08:50
jaggiafk08:50
caryuse that processor?08:50
caryi guess i dont get what you mean08:50
thoreauputiccary: the app runs on the new machine - but the dispaly is on the monitor for the old machine08:50
thoreauputic*display08:50
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thoreauputiccary: thus even a pentium 200 can run , say, mozilla - moz runs on the remote machine, the old pentium just acts as a client08:52
caryahhha. so you somehow have the window open so you can control it and gather whatever data you need. sort of a mirror of the more powerful one08:52
caryso i could SEE myself editing a photo on one, use its power to do that, save it, then transfer it or something like that08:52
thoreauputiccary: the diaplay is all that gets sent to the old machine, effectively the program runs remotely08:53
caryooooo...i could find someone with a dual 2.7 to do my raw editing! (only that would take ages to trasnfer)08:53
carythoreauputic, nice08:53
microhaxocan someone take the time to help me compile wine?08:53
tiglionabbitcary: helps a lot more when you're working with webservers08:53
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thoreauputiccary: linux is "network transparent"08:54
optikwhy not just use the wine from apt-get?08:54
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carytiglionabbit, yeah. maybe one day ill need to manager servers. but im a photographer so ...its iffy08:54
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tiglionabbitcary: well um, that's true, there isn't a ton of things the terminal can do for photography08:55
thoreauputiccary: if you have a static IP and a good connection you can host your own website using apache08:55
carytiglionabbit, haha. yeah.08:55
tiglionabbitunless you're making a website for it08:55
lhbmicrohaxo: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2999608:56
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thoreauputictiglionabbit: not true - the imagemagick suite has powerful image manipulation tools08:56
vidohello guy08:56
tiglionabbitah, I haven't experimented with that08:56
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lhbmicrohaxo: used it and worked like a charm, running ie6 even08:56
microhaxok08:56
carytiglionabbit, thoreauputic , Seveas ,...i figured otu hwo to get to the flash thing via terminal! of course when i executed the (application?) it told me there is no ppc arcitecture support (as noted earlier)08:57
tiglionabbityeah08:58
tiglionabbittis sad08:58
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Whistlerthere is an online game but it only allows IE but i wanna use linux is it possible to login someway?08:58
carytiglionabbit, point is though i navigated in terminal and found what i needed to do and did it.08:58
vidoI have a problem with my Sound Blaster 16 PnP08:58
carytiglionabbit, im proud.08:58
tweakism_What up, #ubuntu?  Doing drugs?  I know I am.08:58
tiglionabbitWhistler: you could fake your user agent, by typing about:config into address and changing things.  Or you could use wine to install internet explorer08:59
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tiglionabbitWhistler: or you could email the people who made the game and tell them they are making a grave mistake08:59
Tomcat_Whistler: There is also a Firefox extension that will easily let you set your UA.08:59
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Bisclaverethow do i uninstall programs and all the dependencies they use using synaptic without flagging everything by hand and searching for them (i want to remove them completely)08:59
thoreauputiccary: when you feel more comfortable with commands, have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com//MacOnLinuxHowto  << bookmark this08:59
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tiglionabbitBisclaveret: I know there's a way to get rid of orphan packages...09:00
pfpit's always nice to see people learn linux :)09:00
tweakism_Bisclaveret: I don't know, but random advice:  be careful not remove things that other things you're not removing depend on.09:00
Whistleropera:config09:00
carythoreauputic, i have been wanting to do that. ill give it some time thoguh09:00
tiglionabbitwhat's the thing for removing orphans?09:00
Whistlerwhere i shoul type it?09:00
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Whistlerwhere i should type it?09:00
Bisclaveretbecause i'm running this on a VERY limited capacity harddrive and the full install installed just a bit much09:01
pfptiglionabbit: you mean deporphan?09:01
tweakism_Does apt have a central registry of packages I have specifically specified to install, vs. just things that were installed as deps?  Ala gentoo's world file.09:01
thoreauputiccary: yes, it isn't hard really - but a bit intimidating when you are new09:01
pfpdeborphan even09:01
Bisclaveret(do i need openoffice, vim, emacs, AND nano? ;))09:01
tiglionabbityes, deborphan.09:01
carythoreauputic, and i am Quite new.09:01
thoreauputicBisclaveret: probably not09:01
tiglionabbituninstall the program, and then clean up with deborphan09:01
tweakism_Bisclaveret: heh.  nano is good because it doesn't require any learning to use.  I like emacs and vim on all my machines, because everyone who uses them has their own preference (I like vim).  openoffice is a whole other class of software.09:02
Bisclaveretbecause say, flagging gimp for complete removal didn't touch gimp-python, gimp-data, gimp-helpbrowser, etc ;)09:02
carythoreauputic, is there a way to refresh, say, the desktop, etc. back when i ran litestep i coudl refresh the .rc files. now i am seeing a file on the desktop that no longer exists but it wont go away09:02
alerimhi09:02
thoreauputiccary: odd09:02
tiglionabbittweakism_: I try to avoid openoffice =P  abiword is nice09:03
thoreauputiccary: what file is this?09:03
tweakism_Is the difference between regular removal and complete removal that regular removal leaves configuration and support files in place?09:03
Bisclaverettweakism_: i know how to use nano because it has virtually the same functionality and commands of the old dos LIST program i used to use09:03
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tweakism_tiglionabbit: I used to use LaTeX for print-formatted stuff, but its syntax is archaic.  DocBook is neat, but it's pretty verbose, and while that alone would be OK, there aren't very good DocBook->print format (pdf, ps, etc) pathways :/  Maybe fop will mature.09:04
thechitowncubsI wish i could figure out why my laptop got so fricking hot09:04
pfpcary: try clicking on the desktop (to give it keyboard focus), then Ctrl-R (if using gnome)09:04
thechitowncubseverytime i use it i worry why the fans don't go on more09:04
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tweakism_I find OpenOffice to be the best these days, and its styler actually makes seperation of content and formatting possible, though harder than LaTeX (w/ or w/o LyX) and DocBook.09:04
carythoreauputic, pfp, what pfp said worked09:04
tweakism_I haven't really tried any of the competing open source word processors, though.09:04
tiglionabbitthechitowncubs: you could stop laptop-mode09:05
thechitowncubsSTOP laptop mode?09:05
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caryim goign to reboot to make sure tiger is still doing okay. be back soon09:05
tiglionabbityou wanted it to not turn off the fan, right?09:05
microhaxoOk09:06
thechitowncubsi want the fan to go on more often09:06
microhaxoproblem compiling09:06
microhaxofollowed that guide to a T!!!!!!09:06
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thoreauputiccary: I'm currently using a different window manager (fluxbox) so I can't check gnome stuff directly :)09:06
microhaxolhb09:06
microhaxoyo09:06
microhaxoi need j0009:06
microhaxolhb: ran into an error while compiling, followed it to a tee..09:07
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Fabiangood morning everyone!09:07
microhaxoits a bad morning09:07
microhaxo!09:07
ubotuI haven't a clue, microhaxo09:07
microhaxochecking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables09:07
pfpspecifying the error wouldn't hurt...09:07
thechitowncubsmicro, whats your problem, what are you trying to do09:07
tiglionabbitmicrohaxo: do you have build-essential installed?09:07
thoreauputicmicrohaxo: sudo apt-get install build-essential09:07
Fabiandoes anyone know how I can get my Ubuntu live CD NOT to use my swap partition????09:07
microhaxoyea09:08
microhaxoi have all that good stuff09:08
Fabianhi pfp! :D09:08
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pfpFabian: hi :)09:08
thechitowncubstiglionabbit: i want my fans to go on more often09:08
Fabianpfp, do you know?09:08
tiglionabbitFabian: um, try installing it without a swap partition?  uh..09:08
tiglionabbitlol my answer to that sucked09:08
pfpFabian: type swapoff /dev/hdax once you're in the live cd09:08
microhaxofollwoed this guide TO A T09:09
microhaxohttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2999609:09
microhaxoERROR at the compile09:09
microhaxo:|09:09
Fabianpfp, when it has booted, or at the boot prompt?09:09
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Fabianthoreauputic, cause I need to work on my partition table, and when a partition is mounted, this do really bad things09:10
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thoreauputicFabian: ah, Ok i see :)09:10
pfpFabian: after it has booted.. i dont know if there's a boot-time option09:10
pfpFabian: cat /proc/swaps to see if it's in use09:10
thoreauputicFabian: after boot, type sudo swapoff -a09:10
Fabianthoreauputic swapoff -a? -a = all?09:11
pfpoh yeah, that too :)09:11
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pfpbut doesn't swapoff -a only affect those devices that are in fstab?09:11
caryseems to be okay09:11
thoreauputicFabian: yes, turns off all swap09:12
Whistleranybody can suggest a php+mysql package?09:12
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thoreauputicFabian: swapon -a to turn it back on09:12
Whistleraviable via apt-get09:12
Whistlersmt like lamp09:12
thoreauputicpfp: doesn't the live CD put swap in fstab?09:13
davixhow could this happen: root@Lenna:/home/davix # ping 10.0.0.309:13
davixPING 10.0.0.3 (10.0.0.3) 56(84) bytes of data. - From 10.0.0.2 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable09:13
davix?09:13
thoreauputicdavix: you network is misconfigured?09:13
tiglionabbitwhy you using root?09:14
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JohnnyRottenis there a place where stuff downloaded with apt-get/package manager is log that shows where it was downloaded from09:14
davixi love root09:14
tiglionabbitJohnnyRotten: dpkg09:14
davixthoreauputic, in which end?09:14
Fabianthoreauputic, yep, swap is in fstab in live cd09:14
thoreauputicJohnnyRotten: apt-cache policy <package> to see the repo it's from09:14
microhaxoYo can someone please help me compile WINE?09:14
tiglionabbitmicrohaxo: why?09:14
microhaxocuz i have amd64 kernel and i cant install the packaged one09:15
thoreauputicdavix: hard to say - my mind reading is off today ;)09:15
tiglionabbitoh dang09:15
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microhaxoanyone please09:15
microhaxoi have encountered an error and need to know how to get around it09:15
WhistlerAnybody can suggest a webserver+php+mysql package?09:15
thoreauputicdavix: the machines are not properly connected - what is causing that could be a number of things09:15
davixthoreauputic, could u give me a checklist for things to check for?09:16
thechitowncubsmy lap is on fire09:16
pfpWhistler: apache2, mysql-server, libapache-php-something (apt-cache search php)09:16
tiglionabbitmicrohaxo: you might have more luck asking in #linuxhelp or a channel about wine09:16
thoreauputicdavix: firewall? /etc/network/interfaces? dhcp?09:16
Bisclaveretnext question, where do i get deborphan?  apt-cache search deborphan shows nothing09:16
davixrouter.09:16
Fabianpfp, damn, forgot my live CD at home! :(09:16
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pfpFabian: :'(09:17
thoreauputicdavix: it depends on your setup09:17
tiglionabbitBisclaveret: add more repositories.  It's in the default repositories commented out in sources.list09:17
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Whistlerpfp is there a all in one like lamp?09:17
Fabianpfp, after rewriting the partition table, do I have to tell the system, that does parititions are no prim partitions any more?09:17
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tiglionabbitFabian: uh..  you could unmount them09:18
willsany network admin ?????????09:18
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tiglionabbitwills: what?09:18
thoreauputicBisclaveret: debaorphan is in universe, according to " apt-cache policy"09:18
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Fabiantiglionabbit, do you happen to know my problem?09:18
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thoreauputic*deborphan09:19
pfpWhistler: i dont think so, using those packages is the common way afaik09:19
tiglionabbitFabian: nope09:19
willshi tiglionabbit r u network engg09:19
tiglionabbitnope09:19
Whistlerpfp ok then thx09:19
willsany of ur friend tiglion09:19
wills??09:19
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tiglionabbitwills: what's your real question?09:19
Fabiantiglionabbit, gotta have another partition. So I have to move my prim partition 2 and 3 inside the extended partition, without loosing data09:20
willstiglion -- i want to know about postfix config09:20
Fabianpfp, after rewriting the partition table, do I have to tell the system, that does parititions are no prim partitions any more?09:20
pfpFabian: fdisk / sfdisk tell kernel to refresh the part.table (and complain if the kernel refuses to re-read it (ie. the disk was in use at the time)09:20
JohnnyRottenis there any other way thoreaputic that didnt list the site i was looking for i think it is cause it got deleted from my source.list im trying to find the repo i got a few packages from09:20
imaek g09:20
willsany postfix experts09:20
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Fabianpfp, it makes no difference if they are extended or not?09:21
pfpFabian: umm no, whatever changes to the partition table, the kernel has to re-read them if you want to use the partitions before next reboot09:21
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Fabianpfp, well, I'll reboot anyway09:22
thoreauputicJohnnyRotten: you can make a new /etc/apt/sources.list by running " sudo apt-setup", then uncommenting the ones you want09:22
thoreauputicJohnnyRotten: then run apt-get update, of course09:22
pfpFabian: you can use sfdisk -R /dev/hda to make kernel re-read them,,, but i'n not sure how relevant this is for you since you have to escape from the live cd anyway09:22
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thechitowncubsWhy is my cpuinfo_max_freq set to 160000 when my processor is only 1.4ghz09:23
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RuffianSoldierwtf - i remember when i could get anything i wanted from the Ubuntu repos what happend?09:23
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thechitowncubshallelujah, my fan just went on!09:23
JohnnyRottenit wasnt one of the sources that come with ubuntu will that still find and add the one i want back?09:23
thoreauputicJohnnyRotten: no09:24
Fabianpfp, as I said, I'll reboot anyway!09:24
JohnnyRotteni cant remember what the repo was i found it on google but cant seem to find it now09:24
thoreauputicJohnnyRotten: and using 3rd party repos isn't a good idea09:24
tiglionabbitthechitowncubs: if you want some fan, just say updatedb or something =P09:24
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pfpFabian: fine :) just being overly tired, manic and caffeinated here :P09:24
Fabianpfp, didn't you sleep yet?09:25
microhaxoCAn anyone please help me with compiling wine please??!?09:25
thechitowncubshehe09:25
pfpFabian: nah.. i have around 25-26h daily rhythm09:25
tiglionabbitmicrohaxo: nope09:25
microhaxoLMAO09:25
microhaxohere is the log09:25
microhaxohttp://rafb.net/paste/results/spz5TN31.html09:25
pfpshould sleep soon though, heh09:26
thoreauputicJohnnyRotten: microhaxo why are you compiling wine? it's inthe ubuntu repos (universe proabably)09:26
RuffianSoldieri just came back to the linux world after not using it for a few months - before i remember being able to find whatever i watned in the ubutnu repos - now it seems very limited - are there any repositories i can add to be able to downloda stuff like fluxbox and xfce?//09:26
thechitowncubsafter i stopped the powernowd (cpu scaling) the fan seemed to go on a lot more :)09:26
thoreauputicoops sorry JohnnyRotten09:26
microhaxoHow many times have i said this09:26
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microhaxoIM RUNNING AMD6409:26
microhaxothey dont make the damn REPOS FOR AMD64 CUZ IT WONT INSTALL IT!09:26
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deco_microhaxo: you could add 64bit to your nick or something? :D09:27
thoreauputicmicrohaxo: OK - no need to shout ;)09:27
microhaxolol09:27
tiglionabbitcan't find -lgcc huh?09:27
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Fabianpfp, well, a day has got 24h and if you don't sleep, you get another 8h... and then you can work over lunch, makes another hour and if you don't make any breaks, you can have another 2h. Finally you can work late in the evening makes another 4 hours. So in total that is 39 to 40h per day. So no problem! :D09:27
microhaxo64biti dunno it says09:27
RuffianSoldiercan anyone answer my question?  does "universe" still exist?09:27
thechitowncubsthis sucks09:27
thoreauputicRuffianSoldier: of course09:28
microhaxo64bitchecking for gcc... gcc -m3209:28
microhaxo64bitchecking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables09:28
microhaxo64bitSee `config.log' for more details.09:28
JohnnyRottenis there a repo that has libfontconfig1 2.3.2-1?or newer09:28
pfpFabian: :D09:28
RuffianSoldierthoreauputic - i remember having to enable it in synaptic whenever i reinstalled - but i dont know how it is cuz im still used to pre-hoary.........09:29
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tiglionabbitFabian: uh, those hours you're skipping are included in the original 2409:29
thoreauputicRuffianSoldier: ah - in synaptic settings, reppositories, check "disabled repositories" or similar09:29
Fabiantiglionabbit, are they? mmmhhh09:30
thoreauputicRuffianSoldier: or edit /etc/apt/sources.list09:30
tiglionabbityou can't have more than 24 in a single day09:30
RuffianSoldierwhat do I add?  I prefer to do it the hard way - im synapticaly challenged09:30
david__Hello, still having trouble configuring my sony TR3A for 1280x768 resolution.  Have tried autodetecting again, and have tried entering horizontal & vertical parameters, have read https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FixVideoResolutionHowto09:30
tiglionabbitdavid__: is your monitor capable of it?  =P09:30
david__Yes, it is the default.09:31
Fabiantiglionabbit, I can't? too bad .... :(09:31
david__It is an LCD.09:31
thoreauputicRuffianSoldier: editing sources.list, you just uncomment all the lines that start with "deb", basically09:31
tiglionabbityep.  to be even simpler, all the lines that have a single hash mark09:31
david__Xorg.conf contains all the right entries, or so it seems.09:31
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action09hi all09:31
thoreauputicRuffianSoldier: if you want multiverse, add the word multiverse on the universe lines09:31
Fabiananyone got a writeable cd for me? need one urgently!!!09:31
RuffianSoldier# deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe09:32
RuffianSoldier# deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe09:32
RuffianSoldierun # those?09:32
thoreauputicyup09:32
tiglionabbitFabian: how are we going to get it to you over the internet?09:32
tiglionabbityes09:32
action09fear! i did an update of gaim this morning. cpu get to 99% by gam_server09:32
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action09any clue? please09:32
action09on Hoary09:32
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Fabiantiglionabbit, email? :D09:32
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thoreauputictiglionabbit: I'm a *very * slow typist ;)09:33
pfptiglionabbit: see, it's easy :)09:33
tiglionabbitoh yes, because everyone knows physical objects can be used as attachments09:33
RuffianSoldierty thoreauputic - im an oldschool ubuntuer - im just a bit shabby :)09:33
RuffianSoldierdamn this shift key doesnt like to work :(09:33
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Fabianpfp, Thank you09:33
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tiglionabbitthoreauputic: I was just observing how you and I tend to say the same things in places09:33
pfpjust like you can turn book pages with the mouse...09:33
Fabian*burn"09:33
tiglionabbitpfp: and delete text with whiteout!09:34
thoreauputictiglionabbit: take your pick between "great minds think alike" and "fools never differ" ;-)09:34
tiglionabbithehe09:34
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pfpi once tried copy-pasting some text from compu to our fridge door :/09:35
JohnnyRottensince using other repos is bad what is best way to use newer stuff09:36
thoreauputicpfp: you need counselling ;-)09:36
tiglionabbitJohnnyRotten: um, use breezy?...  but don't09:36
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tiglionabbitJohnnyRotten: or cvs, or emerge, but don't use those either09:36
Guybrush|Numb<JohnnyRotten> install from source in /opt09:37
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Fabianpfp, that's the best, I read in some time! :D09:37
tiglionabbitJohnnyRotten: isn't ubuntu new enough for you?09:37
pfpFabian: heh :)09:37
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tiglionabbitlol09:38
tiglionabbitoh Ihate that feature09:38
pfpmyes, a clean way to get newer versions of stuff would be nice...09:38
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pfpehh09:38
JohnnyRottenno :)09:38
pfp*heh09:38
tiglionabbitopenoffice has that feature, thoreauputic.  It's awful =P09:38
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thoreauputictiglionabbit: oh, I turned that off - I agree - it's awful09:39
tiglionabbitthoreauputic: I wish they'd have a separate package with all the annoyance tactics turned off.  For now, I just use abiword or gedit or mousepad or emacs or something else09:40
david__Any good ideas about the TR3A?  Is there a place I should enter a bug report?09:40
it4ngoHello guys anyone who use Ximian Evolution can tell how to publish calendar with it.. I can do it with moz calendar but not with "evolution"09:40
thoreauputictiglionabbit: hmm - I hardly ever use OpenOffice these days - but then I have little need for word processing09:40
Fabianpfp, nobody's got a writable cd here.... :(09:41
JohnnyRottenis there a easy way to get rid of everything installed from the repo that i found on google only so i can fix some problems installing some stuff that wants newer things than whats avalible09:41
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sasquatc4figured id ask, ive looked around the forums and havent seen anything yet, just wonderin if anyone has gotten 3d acceleration to work with the radeon mobility IGP 340M, since i think they came out with new drivers in the past few days09:41
Fabianthoreauputic lol, thanks09:42
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thoreauputicFabian: it only works with invisible ink, sorry ;)09:42
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Fabianpfp, privat for a sec?09:43
pfpFabian: k09:43
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pfpJohnnyRotten: maybe something like dpkg --get-selections | while read stuff ; do apt-cache policy $package | grep something ; done09:44
thoreauputicJohnnyRotten: try   sudo apt-get -f  ( without any packages)09:45
thoreauputicoops09:45
thoreauputicapt-get -f install09:45
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sasquatc4i take that as a no09:48
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zytha no?09:51
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tiglionabbitwhat happened?09:52
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action09damn09:52
kvidelluhh09:52
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kvidellI donno, I just got back from a walk09:52
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tiglionabbit=309:52
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kvidellWould you like to wear knickers? I would, 'cause I'm Winston Churchill!09:52
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kvidellheh09:54
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tiglionabbitpiglet-shaped?09:55
tiglionabbitand is fur readable?09:55
zythfur holds like 2.7gb/inch ;)09:55
tiglionabbityou mean it's one continuous strand?09:55
tiglionabbithow long is the fur?09:55
thoreauputictiglionabbit: yes this is reiserfs fur - it reads very fast then blows up and scatters all over the room09:56
tiglionabbitlol09:56
zythoddly, I think my fs is ext2.09:56
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tiglionabbitmm where can I get a fuzzy computer like that?  Sounds cuddly, and I wouldn't need to stick figurines all over it like nintendo workers do09:58
zythI want ubuntu-based internet radio to listen to.09:58
zythtiglionabbit, linux on a dead badger.09:58
kvidellPiglet shaped? I'm still hung up on that.09:59
zythhttp://www.strangehorizons.com/2004/20040405/badger.shtml09:59
vidoPlease can you help me with my sound blaster 16 I can't use it09:59
Madpilotzyth: :) seen that ages ago, still great. Uvudu, anyone?10:00
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zythvido, what is the problem?10:01
vidoi can't use my soundblaster10:01
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kvidellAww.. c'mon. Kids in the Hall?10:02
zythHuh, gaim-vv isn't in any repositories.10:03
zythvido, we'll need more than that.  Did it detect? is the volume just turned down? etc10:03
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vidono It don't detect10:04
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kvidelldoes it show up in lspci ?10:05
kvidell(I'm assuming by "detect" we meant "auto detect and register as a device")10:05
pfpis SB16 even a pci device?10:06
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kvidellISA/EISA should still come up in lspci10:06
kvidellit runs through the PCI bus on newer cards and thusly slows down the whole system10:07
pfpdidnt know that10:07
kvideller.. newer mobos10:07
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vidono is sb16 isa pnp10:07
Di42lo`am i the only that after apt-geting MPlayer...cant see the movies in full screen ?10:07
Di42lo`the only one*10:08
kvidellwhat are you doing to make it go fullscreen?10:08
tiglionabbitnope, you've got to change teh engine10:08
tiglionabbitgo to preferences10:08
Di42lo`what engine ?10:08
Di42lo`and then ?10:08
kvidellmy usual trick is: mplayer -fstype fullscreen -fs filename.mpg10:08
kvidellbut I don't like gui apps so my way's a little contrived :)10:08
tiglionabbitunder video, select xv10:08
Di42lo`tiglionabbit: and then ?10:09
tiglionabbitand then quit and run it again10:09
thoreauputicgmplayer -zoom also works10:09
tiglionabbitand you should be able to use fullscreen10:09
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thoreauputicor mplayer -zoom10:09
kvidellthoreauputic: Oh, okay... I realise that I use bad methods for getting things done, but it works in the end, hehe.10:09
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kvidellLike when I compile kernels... make xconfig; make -j2 modules; make -js modules_install; make -js install; mkinitrd -o /boot/initrd.2.6.10-2 2.6.10; sudo vim /boot/grub/menu.lst10:10
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ayanohi!10:10
thoreauputickvidell: mplayer encourages geeky solutions, I think ;) I personally prefer Xine anyway10:10
kvidellit makes most people's heads hurt but I rather like it.10:10
Di42lo`tiglionabbit: now i dont see the movie at all...just black screen10:10
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Daishihoi!!10:10
tiglionabbitpersonally I just use vlc for whatever I can10:10
kvidelland everytime I said -js up there it was supposed to be -j2, hehe10:10
Daishihallo10:10
Daishii dunno10:10
kvidellI only use VLC on my macs10:11
tiglionabbitDi42lo`: really?  um, darn10:11
kvidellmplayer elsewise.10:11
Daishihe..? hountou10:11
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Bisclaveretawww jesus. i have no sound for anything10:12
Daishiare you happy?10:12
Daishii'm having test today... not so difficult10:12
tiglionabbitBisclaveret: that so?  what are you trying to do?  is esd running?10:12
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stjepanhi10:12
Daishianswer my question please...10:12
Bisclaveretesd?10:12
stjepanwow10:12
stjepanlinks is really fast10:13
stjepan:D10:13
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Bisclaveretunder system monitor, it says it's sleeping10:13
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tiglionabbitBisclaveret: killall esd, and quit any application that makes sound, then run them again, do you hear anything?10:13
DaishiXD10:13
Daishido you like japan?10:13
Di42lo`tiglionabbit: well...how do i get back to the standard options ?10:13
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tiglionabbitDi42lo`: um, switch back to the other engine?10:14
Daishido you know PSYCHO LE CEMU's OFFICIAL WEBSITE had closed?10:14
Di42lo`tiglionabbit: i dont remember which one it was10:14
tiglionabbitDi42lo`: try out different engines and see what works for you10:14
Daishiwhat are we talking about10:14
thoreauputicBisclaveret: quick test to see if sound is working at all: ` cat /dev/urandom /dev/dsp ` (ctrl-C to stop the noise)10:14
Di42lo`tiglionabbit: nothing work10:14
Daishihey, you two!!!><10:14
Bisclaveretonly pc speaker beeps10:15
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Daishiken yu spik in jepen???10:16
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Bisclaveretthoreauputic: i only get the standard pc speaker beeping randomly10:16
thoreauputicBisclaveret: sorry , should be cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp10:16
thoreauputicI left out the >10:17
Bisclaveretnothing10:17
thoreauputicOK you have a sound config problem ... obviously10:17
Bisclavereti figured that ;)10:17
thoreauputicBisclaveret: did you try the killall esd suggestion?10:17
Di42lo`tiglionabbit: thoreauputic i think you didnt understand what i meant....after i open the movie in full screen i still can see the movie but its only in the middle ..and the rest are black10:17
Bisclaveretyes10:18
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thoreauputicDi42lo`: I did understand - the zoom option usually fixes that10:18
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thoreauputicDi42lo`: but really, i suggest you use xine and avoid the config hassles of mplayer10:19
Daishiqwertyuioplkjhgfdsazxcvbnm10:19
Bisclavereti have a SB live 5.1 digital soundcard10:19
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thoreauputicBisclaveret: hmmm - do you know the driver? i think it's emu10k or somthing like that10:20
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thoreauputicthat's just from seeing other questions about SB live cards10:20
Di42lo`thoreauputic: xine generate a config file for mplayer ? and then what should i do with the config ?10:20
sasquatc4is there anyway to remove the xorg fglrx driver, i tried apt-get remove --force-yes, but it still gives me an error about it trying to overwrite something with a different filename10:20
Bisclaveretno, i don't :/10:20
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thoreauputicDi42lo`: no, xine is a player10:20
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HrdwrBoBsasquatc4: give the error and someone can probably help :)10:21
Di42lo`thoreauputic: does xine support avi, mplayer, wma ?10:21
zythDi42lo`, it can10:21
thoreauputicDi42lo`: just install xine-ui10:21
thoreauputicand tes10:21
sasquatc4dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibmesa-gl_6.8.2-10_i386.deb (--unpack):10:21
sasquatc4trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2', which is also in package fglrx-6-8-010:21
Di42lo`okay sec10:21
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Guybrush|Numbjust a question, people10:21
thoreauputicif you have the w32codecs10:21
Bisclaveretvolume control has literally hundreds of options in the window for my sb live soundcard10:21
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thoreauputicDi42lo`: you need theose codecs10:21
Guybrush|Numbhow do you usually quote other people nicknames in your replies, by copy/paste ?10:21
thoreauputic*those10:21
HrdwrBoBsasquatc4: so remove fglrx-6-8-010:22
zythGuybrush|Numb, type Gu then hit tab10:22
Daishiyou are talking.....soooooooooooooooooooooooo fast!10:22
Di42lo`thoreauputic: i allready installed the win32codecs for the mplayer10:22
thoreauputicGuybrush|Numb: thor <tab> Gubr <tab>10:22
sasquatc4that package doesnt exist to apt10:22
Guybrush|Numbthanks zyth :)10:22
Bisclaveretas well as a device setting for my chipset, a setting for my cirrus logic chipset, a setting for a "SigmaTel" something...10:22
Guybrush|Numbsaved my day10:22
zythlol np10:22
sasquatc4and when i try apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx i get the same problem10:22
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thoreauputicDi42lo`: if you have the codecs, xine should find them OK10:23
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Di42lo`thoreauputic: okay thx10:23
sasquatc4it just doesnt state that it is with fglrx6-8-010:23
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zyththough honestly, if you have mplayer installed, I don't see why you'd need xine too, but hey ;)10:23
thoreauputicDi42lo`: if you prefer the totem interface you can install totem-xine as well10:23
thoreauputiczyth: because it works better for many people10:24
thoreauputiczyth: YMMV10:24
zyththoreauputic, *nod*10:24
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Guybrush|Numbzyth: xine installation is FAR easier on ubuntu than mplayer10:24
zythmplayer seems to work well, except for some newer apple trailers, I think it's an audio codec issue though, since it's only the very newest ones10:24
Guybrush|Numbat least form e10:25
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zythGuybrush|Numb, I just used synaptic, set my mplayer config to ao=alsa and all was happy, but like said YMMV10:25
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Bisclaveretwhen trying to use the "music player" under applications>sound and video, i get a "error: cannot open resource for writing" followed by an "Error: cannot pause playback" now that i did the killall esd10:25
bigfoot1hello. a question from a newbie: I made a sound file with the Audio Recorder program. How do I cut out a part of it? I only need the first part, the latter part is just silence. Thank you.10:25
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Guybrush|Numbzyth: yeah, agreed, writing while u were speaking :)10:26
thoreauputiczyth: the average new user wouldn't know how to do the ao=alsa thing10:26
zyththoreauputic, quite true.10:26
zythI learned it by lots of frustration :)10:26
thoreauputicBisclaveret: rhythmbox/music player wants to use esd for output10:26
zyththis is the first time I've had linux working 100% on a box.10:26
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zythin um.. 12 years10:27
zythof using Linux.10:27
zyther10:27
zythsomething like that.10:27
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Guybrush|Numbbigfoot: try searching in synaptic for "sound editor" or "sound editing" (search in Name AND Description of packages)10:27
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r3d0xXuShi im back :D10:28
thoreauputicbigfoot1: audacity is a nice sound app for editing like that10:28
Bisclaveretonce i get sound working i can try to get my videocard working, then i can have almost the same functionality of my windows drive :p10:28
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r3d0xXuScthulfuego ?10:28
Bisclaveretas it is the only thing i have is irc and (now) internet ;)10:29
bigfoot1thoreauputic, thanks.10:29
bigfoot1Guybrush|Numb, thank you!10:29
r3d0xXuSdo anyone here have geforce6800 installed on Ubuntu ?!10:29
thoreauputicbigfoot1: you might need to kill esd to get audacity working, btw10:29
misakar3d - Lots of people have NVidia cards installed ... do you have questions specific to that card only?10:29
Guybrush|Numbbigfoot1: thoreauputic is the man, you welcome :)10:30
r3d0xXuSyeah10:30
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bigfoot1thoreauputic, okay, i'll do that if i get problem.10:30
misakar3d - Well, sorry, I don't have one a'dem. ;] 10:30
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thoreauputic*esd10:30
thoreauputicheh  - i wouldn't disable sed ;)10:30
tiglionabbityo.  I decided to add the sarge repository listed here http://debian.video.free.fr/ , and ran the gpg command he lists, but it still says there's no public key.  What should I do?  Oh, and is this repository safe to use with ubuntu hoary?10:30
r3d0xXuSmisaka: my ask is: ive installed the normal driver from ubunto to my graphic card and if i play linuxport game like nexuiz it like lagging all 2 seconds10:31
thoreauputictiglionabbit: no, don't use sarge repos10:31
action09My ubuntu freezed with the new kernel smp i installed.. don't understand why.maybe i'll look at the gam_server and search for/create bug10:31
thoreauputictiglionabbit: if you must, use the unsable repo10:31
misakathor - Is dmix the alsa-driver mixer?10:31
thoreauputic*unstable10:31
bigfoot1thoreauputic, what's dmix? i think i only have esd and oss on my system. is dmix the best audio whatever?10:31
zythbigfoot1, you ought to have ALSA10:32
tiglionabbitwhere can I get a standalone flash player?10:32
thoreauputicbigfoot1: I found a howto for it on ubuntuguide.org10:32
misakar3d - Have you determined if you've got 3D acceleration working properly or not?10:32
thoreauputicbigfoot1: under "fix sound " or something like that10:32
r3d0xXuSive installed that 3d driver card yes but it lagging10:32
r3d0xXuSif i play some games10:32
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bigfoot1zyth, you're right, i meant alsa and oss.10:33
bigfoot18-)10:33
zythr3d0xXuS, ina  terminal, type glxinfo.  Is it Mesa, or what?10:33
r3d0xXuSbut i meant 100 fps then down to 1 then again up 100 then down to 1 and so going on10:33
r3d0xXuShmm10:33
r3d0xXuSim newbie :x10:33
tiglionabbitcan I get a stand alone flash player?10:33
zythr3d0xXuS, see I have10:34
thoreauputictiglionabbit: if you find one, please tell me...10:34
tiglionabbito10:34
misakar3d - That's not what I was asking. ;]  I was asking if you've made sure that the 3D acceleration works ... one way to test is to run 'glxinfo', or 'glxgears' to see what framerate it gets.10:34
r3d0xXuSzyth:10:34
r3d0xXuSzyth r3d0xXuS, see I have10:34
zythserver glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation10:34
zythserver glx version string: 1.310:34
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zythsorry, had to cut/paste10:34
r3d0xXuSlol10:34
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bigfoot1can audacity work with .flac files? I made audacity open a flac file (created with SoundRecorder), and when I play back, i get meaningless sounds.10:34
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zythbut when I run glxinfo, I get that near the top10:34
thoreauputictiglionabbit: I have konqueror + flash plugin as my preferred app for flash10:34
zythit shows that I'm using nvidia's drivers10:34
r3d0xXuShmm10:35
anirz_hello10:35
Dreamer3anyone running ubuntu under Xen?10:35
anirz_what is codega?10:35
r3d0xXuSbut if i play HL or Nexuiz10:35
zythif yours says Mesa, your 3D drivers are not installed properly10:35
r3d0xXuSit lagging10:35
thoreauputicbigfoot1: don't know, haven't tried flac10:35
bigfoot1should i convert the flac file to some format audacity can read? If so, do you know how to do it?10:35
zythr3d0xXuS, well, what does glxinfo say when you run it in terminal?10:35
thoreauputicbigfoot1: man audacity will tell you what formats are supported10:35
anirz_bigfoot1, what is codega10:35
misakar3d - So ... have you run glxinfo/glxgears or not?10:35
bigfoot1anirz_, i don't know. I'm sorry.10:35
r3d0xXuSzyth r3d0xXuS, see I have10:35
r3d0xXuSah10:35
r3d0xXuSmom10:35
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Guybrush|Workanirz: you mean cedega ?10:35
zythah mom?10:35
anirz_anyone knows what is codega10:35
thoreauputicbigfoot1: possibly sox can convert flac10:36
misakazyth is r3doxXuS's mom?10:36
thoreauputicnot sure10:36
zythI am?10:36
zythscary10:36
misakaThis is weird shit. ;] 10:36
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anirz_and point2play10:36
zyth:/10:36
r3d0xXuSzyth: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/8710:36
anirz_what the y do??10:36
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tiglionabbitzomg they're making a virtual machine now?10:36
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Guybrush|Workanirz_, a windows """emulator""" for linux, to run games10:36
tiglionabbitflash platform10:36
zythok yeah you have nvidia's GLX10:36
sasquatc4HrdwrBoB: so do you have ny ideas about how to remove it?10:36
r3d0xXuSyeah10:36
misakar3d - So now try glxgears ...10:36
r3d0xXuSbut it lagging :x10:36
anirz_Guybrush|Work, so if i install them will i be able to play all the games??10:37
misakaSee what kind of fps you get with that.10:37
Guybrush|Workno10:37
Guybrush|Worksome of them10:37
Dreamer3anyone running ubuntu under Xen?10:37
anirz_Guybrush|Work, then??10:37
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misakaDreamer - No, having probs?10:37
anirz_Guybrush|Work, like?10:37
Guybrush|Workanirz_, some of them work, other don't10:37
Guybrush|Workanirz_, HL/CS Source for example10:37
zythanirz_,  www.transgaming.org/gamesdb10:37
anirz_Guybrush|Work, thankx10:38
r3d0xXuSzyth: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/8810:38
r3d0xXuSlook the frames10:38
r3d0xXuSdown and up down and up10:38
misakar3d - There's nothing 'down and up and down and up' about that ...10:38
zyth7500+ FPS isn't bad.10:38
misakaThey're consistently around 8000.10:38
zythlooks fine to me10:38
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r3d0xXuS:/10:39
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misakar3d - It might not be your driver then.10:39
r3d0xXuSbut im lagging :x10:39
zythin nexuiz, turn off real-time lighting10:39
zythit'll speed it up10:39
r3d0xXuSok wait10:39
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paxonj #kubuntu10:39
Guybrush|Worknice try, paxon :)10:39
paxonlol10:39
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Guybrush|Worklol10:39
paxonSorry about that.10:40
flyingpenguin900what?10:40
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flyingpenguin900nvm roung channle10:40
r3d0xXuShmm all off :x10:40
r3d0xXuSand still lagging zyth10:40
zythwhat directory are all the icons stored in? Anyone know?10:40
zythr3d0xXuS, what's your video card?10:41
r3d0xXuSGeForce6800LE10:41
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zythhuh.10:41
zythI'd suspect a driver issue.10:41
r3d0xXuS:o10:41
thoreauputiczyth: /usr/share/pixmaps for gnome10:41
r3d0xXuSwhere and how to install :x10:41
thoreauputicmostly10:41
zythhave you tried changing nvagp in your X config?10:41
zyththoreauputic, thanks10:41
r3d0xXuSim newb :X10:41
Dreamer3anyone running ubuntu under Xen?10:41
r3d0xXuSso i dont know how :x10:42
thoreauputiczyth: but others are scatteed about like confetti all over hte file system :/10:42
thoreauputiclike my typing...10:42
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r3d0xXuShi Seveas :D10:42
misakaHeya Seveas.10:43
r3d0xXuSworks all fine but my graphiccard not :/10:43
r3d0xXuSzyth?!10:43
zythhang on.10:44
r3d0xXuSok10:44
zythAGP, not PCI-Express, right?10:44
r3d0xXuSAGP yeah10:44
r3d0xXuS128 mb :x10:44
Seveashi :)10:44
r3d0xXuShi Seveas :x10:45
r3d0xXuS:)10:45
r3d0xXuSive deleted my winxp yesterday10:45
r3d0xXuSi use now linux :>10:45
zythr3d0xXuS, in your xorg.conf, under options, add Option "NvAGP" "1"10:45
zythif you don't know how to do this, you will need to do some reading10:45
zythftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-7664/README.txt10:46
zythis the docs for the nvidia driver10:46
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Dreamer3anyone running ubuntu under Xen?10:47
zythI wish I knew where I could find nice icons for supertux, pingus, and tuxracer.10:48
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thoreauputiczyth: I guess for pingus you can find an appropriate penguin easily enough ;)10:49
zyththoreauputic, yeah, I used the gnome-terminal-linux icon thingy10:49
zythlol10:49
zythjust editing my menus to make them all nice10:49
zythI think I want to buy NWN...10:49
Guybrush|Workanyone can suggest me a good database designing prog ?10:49
Guybrush|Workanyone can suggest me a good database design prog ?10:49
zythAnyone up for a game of nexuiz?10:49
r3d0xXuSSeveas?10:49
hornsbyGuybrush|Work, what language ?10:50
r3d0xXuSor10:50
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r3d0xXuSzyth10:50
r3d0xXuSwhere can i find a window where i can kill that nvidia glx10:50
Guybrush|Workhornsby: just a tool to create database tables schemas10:50
zythI am afk a minute10:50
Guybrush|Workhornsby: not specific to any language, i'm doing high level prototyping10:50
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hornsbyGuybrush|Work, I see10:50
hornsbyGuybrush|Work, have you tried linuxlinks.com ?10:52
Guybrush|Workgoin right now10:52
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hornsbyGuybrush|Work, i dont know any specific tools, but it's a good place to start with10:52
Guybrush|Workhornsby: thanks, looking :)10:52
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hornsbyGuybrush|Work,  how about http://www.knoda.org/10:54
hornsbyi used it once, dunno if it's really what you are looking for10:54
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hornsbyGuybrush|Work, for KDE but, is it what you are looking for, similar to that ?10:54
zythomg10:54
zyththat sucked so bad10:54
zythI just got totally owned.10:55
Dreamer3no one?10:55
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r3d0xXuSzyth..10:55
zythr3d0xXuS, what are you talking about, a window where you can kill it?10:55
Guybrush|Workhornsby: more or less, i don't need any real database connectivity, just a graphical tool to propotype my DB10:55
zythyou need to edit your xorg.conf10:55
Guybrush|Workhornsby, that one could work though10:55
zythif you don't know how to do that, I can't help you right now10:55
r3d0xXuScome to querry10:55
hornsbyGuybrush|Work, well, there are lots of other tools, just need to search a bit10:56
zythr3d0xXuS, do you know how to edit your xorg.conf?10:56
hornsbyGuybrush|Work,  internet is so vaste :)10:56
r3d0xXuS.710:56
r3d0xXuS:/10:56
Guybrush|Workhornsby: sure, but you already helped me a lot :)10:56
r3d0xXuSyeh10:56
hornsbyGuybrush|Work, no prob :)10:56
r3d0xXuSsudo nano /bla/bla/xorg.conf10:56
zythr3d0xXuS, ok, so.. in your xorg.conf, in your options for your video card, you need Option "NvAGP" "1" like the nvidia docs say10:56
tiglionabbitsay, when I run a flash thingy, or mplayer, the sound slowly gets behind.  When I pause it, the sound runs for a while and catches up.  Setting mplayer to have a sound delay of -.55 seconds fixes this.  But uh, why does it do this?10:57
zyththen save and restart X10:57
hornsbyr3d0xXuS, sudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:57
zythtiglionabbit, what's your default audo output for mplayer?10:57
r3d0xXuSk momento10:57
thoreauputictiglionabbit: because mplayer sucks :) I had the same probalem10:57
thoreauputic*problem10:57
r3d0xXuShmm10:58
r3d0xXuSthere isnt a text of nvagp 110:58
r3d0xXuSstrange o_O10:58
zythr3d0xXuS, no, you will need to add it10:58
tiglionabbityes it does.  I use vlc instead now.  But there's no way to fix it in flash.  It could be related to flash, but I'm hoping this is a sound thing in ubuntu10:58
tiglionabbitthat I can fix10:58
zythOption "NvAGP" "1"10:58
tiglionabbitbecause it sucks to have to keep pausing flash for the audio to catch up to the graphics10:59
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thoreauputictiglionabbit: I use the *shudder* non-free standard plugin for flash ( downloaded automatically)10:59
scanwinderhow do i join a windows domain with ubuntu?10:59
Dreamer3scanwinder: i don't :)11:00
thoreauputicscanwinder: bribe Bill Gates ?11:00
scanwinderlol11:00
Dreamer3scanwinder: you don't :)11:00
tiglionabbitthoreauputic: so do I11:00
zyththoreauputic, same here, my opinion is 'whatever works and costs me nothing' ;)11:00
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scanwinderapparently it can be done with SAMBA11:00
Dreamer3scanwinder: you join wnidows domains with windows PCs :-)11:00
r3d0xXuSzyth11:00
r3d0xXuShttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/8911:00
tiglionabbitbut I still have the problem.  What do I do?11:00
r3d0xXuSand tell me where should i edit? O_o11:00
scanwinderi mean 2 log onto a windows server11:00
thoreauputicscanwinder: yes, samba is the answer11:01
tiglionabbitI've had this problem with every version of flash player on every linux distro I've ever used though, so I don't know if it's fixable...11:01
scanwinderis there a good config utility i can use?11:01
r3d0xXuSSeveas?11:01
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thoreauputicscanwinder: vim ? *grin*11:01
zythr3d0xXuS, where's the rest of your config?11:01
r3d0xXuSnothing11:01
r3d0xXuSthats all11:01
zythummm11:02
thoreauputicscanwinder: there's a thing called "swat" I believe11:02
r3d0xXuSlol11:02
zyththat can't be, you have no screen modes defined11:02
tiglionabbitis there any way to fix the sound problem?11:02
r3d0xXuS:x11:02
tiglionabbitthe problem that sound gradually gets behind in flash11:02
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Hajuuhey11:03
Hajuuis there a hotkey for switching between desktops?11:04
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Hajuu(not X sessions, but gnome desktops)11:04
SeveasHajuu, yes11:04
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Seveasyou can even set it yourself11:04
zythr3d0xXuS, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/9011:04
Seveassee system->preferences->keyboards shortcutw11:04
Hajuuoooh11:05
Hajuukinky11:05
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r3d0xXuSlol why pci-ID?11:05
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zythr3d0xXuS, ubuntu auto-did it.  But anyways, look for a spot like that, add the line11:05
zythIt's bedtime for me11:05
zythgoodnight11:05
Seveasr3d0xXuS, have you run nvidia-glx-enable?11:05
zythSeveas, his glxinfo is showing nvidia 1.311:06
Seveasah ok :)11:06
zythjust trying to get him to try nvagp and agpart.. see if either make a difference11:06
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zythhe's getting weird lag when running 3D apps apparently11:06
r3d0xXuSok edited :X11:06
r3d0xXuSok good night11:06
zythr3d0xXuS, restart X then11:06
r3d0xXuSill doing going with seveas :P11:06
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r3d0xXuSSeveas u help me from here then :P11:07
HajuuIs there a program that can backup/restore all my ubuntu settings onto a clean install on this same machine?11:07
Seveasr3d0xXuS, sorry, can't help you...11:07
Hajuu(just wanna keep a backup)11:07
SeveasHajuu, you can backup your /home/you11:07
Hajuunah thats not what I mean11:07
Seveasand for general backups you can use rsync / tar or mondo11:07
Hajuuhmm yeah I guess11:07
zythIs there a program like Ghost for Linux so I can back up my Ubuntu to CDs and restore from them?11:07
Seveaszyth, look at my last line :D11:08
HajuuI just think itd be good if I could do like three click system restores heh11:08
zytheh... no bed yet11:08
zythoh lol ok Seveas11:08
zythOh mondo looks nice11:08
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zythHm I hope r3d0xxus didn't muck up his xorg.conf11:09
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Seveaszyth, you DID tell him to make a backup and how to restore it i hope?11:09
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Dreamer3_if someone can't log into chat from the console, they're not ready for linux :)11:10
zythSeveas, well, no, I told him to not edit it if he didn't know what he was doing, and to go read up on it.11:11
thoreauputicDreamer3_: heh - well that would have counted me out when I started *g*11:11
zythI kinda assumed basic compentency... :/11:11
Seveaszyth, don't :)11:11
Seveasexpect NO competency at all from newbies11:11
thoreauputiczyth: a dangerous assumption11:11
zythlol... yeah11:11
zythOk11:11
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zythduly noted.11:12
mypapitsux a lot11:12
mypapitduly yang maha mulia] 11:12
Seveasbelieve me, newbies have no basic competencies11:12
Seveasmypapit, we speak english in here11:12
Dreamer3_thoreauputic: i want to know now if anyone is running ubuntu under Xen11:12
zythwell, I feel bad if he broke his X :(11:12
Seveasyou didn't break it, he did that himself :)11:12
thoreauputicDreamer3_: given that you've asked several times. it would seem no-one currently in channel11:13
Dreamer3_thoreauputic: i thought someone would at least respond :no :-)11:13
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thoreauputicDreamer3_: no11:13
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thoreauputichappy ? *grin*11:13
Seveasno :)11:13
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Dreamer3_ok11:14
Dreamer3_anyone use a custom kernel with ubuntu?11:14
Dreamer3_(easier question)11:14
Seveasno11:14
Seveas(well, some people do, but custom kernels are a no longer needed when you don't have specific needs)11:14
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Bisclaveretah! i think i found the problem to my sound problem, but no idea how to fix it11:15
Dreamer3_Seveas: i need a Xen kernel to run under Xen :)11:15
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Bisclaveretbisclaveret@Dragon:/proc/asound$ cat cards11:15
Bisclaveret0 [I82801AAICH    ] : ICH - Intel 82801AA-ICH11:15
Bisclaveret                     Intel 82801AA-ICH with CS4299 at 0x2000, irq 1011:15
Bisclaveret1 [Live           ] : EMU10K1 - Sound Blaster Live!11:15
Bisclaveret                     Sound Blaster Live! (rev.10) at 0x3400, irq 1011:15
Seveasthat qualifies as a special need11:15
BaluHi guys11:15
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r3d0xXuSSeveas?11:16
SeveasDreamer3_, search the mailing lists, i've seen Xen being discussed there11:16
Seveashi r3d0xXuS11:16
r3d0xXuShi i need ur help again pls querry :X11:16
Balucdrecord tells me, my CD-Recorder is not a CD-Recorder :-] 11:16
Seveasr3d0xXuS, if it's about nvidia: I know *nothing* about nvidia except what's on the wiki11:16
r3d0xXuSargh11:16
r3d0xXuS...11:17
r3d0xXuShmm11:17
Seveas just ask in here, there are more smart people here :)11:17
zythr3d0xXuS, your best best is, read the nvidia docs11:17
zyththat's what I did11:17
r3d0xXuSi did11:17
Seveasor ask on the mailing list11:17
r3d0xXuSbut nexuiz crashes11:17
BaluI wonder if thats a problem with the kernellinux-image-2.6.10-5-386, so is there a new kernel package available for ubuntu anywhere?11:17
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r3d0xXuSso i must install that grapiccard driver from nvidia.com11:17
r3d0xXuSll ^^11:17
r3d0xXuS11:17
Bisclaveretwould rmmod ICH work?11:17
r3d0xXuShm11:17
Dreamer3_Seveas: cool11:18
r3d0xXuShmm :/11:18
SeveasBisclaveret, you don't want to use your internal soundchip?11:18
r3d0xXuSDO ANYONE KNOW WITH EXPERIENCE OF GFX NVIDIA ?!11:18
SeveasBisclaveret, easiest option: disable it in the BIOS11:18
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Seveasr3d0xXuS, dude, chill11:18
r3d0xXuSlol my capslock was on11:18
Seveasask on the mailinglist, post your xorg.conf with it11:18
Seveasthere are lots of smart people there11:19
BisclaveretSeveas: i have my soundblaster card. no, i don't. and i strongly think that thats why i don't have any sound, it's trying to send to my onboard soundcard11:19
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SeveasBisclaveret, easiest option: disable it in the BIOS <--11:19
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zythBisclaveret, just disable it in the BIOS11:19
Bisclaveretand my bios has no such option. i'm lucky to have an onboard-external video selector11:19
Seveashmm11:19
Bisclavereti'm running on late 1999-2000 equipment11:20
SeveasBisclaveret, do an lsmod and paste the output on paste.ubuntulinux.nl11:20
Bisclaveretdone11:21
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Seveasecho 'snd_intel8x0' | sudo tee -a /etc/hotplug/blacklist11:22
Seveasand reboot11:22
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Bisclaveretsomeoene else was telling me to try rmmod ICH and see what happense11:25
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thoreauputicBisclaveret: try what Seveas said - it should disable the onboard sound11:26
Seveasthere is no ich module...11:26
Bisclaveretheh. and contrary to popular belief i don't have any compatible temp or voltage sensors on this comp. or my PLL chip is halfway fried :/11:26
Seveaslol :)11:26
thoreauputicBisclaveret: you could try rmmod snd_intel8x0 to test11:26
Bisclaveretliterally11:26
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r3d0xXuSdamn :/11:26
r3d0xXuScant :x11:27
r3d0xXuSi need really really help :/11:27
BisclaveretSeveas: as an example, this is what mbmon is telling me ;)11:30
r3d0xXuSdamn11:30
r3d0xXuSsucky11:30
r3d0xXuS..11:30
BisclaveretTemp.= 231.0, 127.0, 125.0; Rot.=    0,    0,    011:30
BisclaveretVcore = 3.81, 4.08; Volt. = 3.95, 5.13, 15.50, -14.19, -5.7611:30
Seveasmuha :)11:30
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SeveasBisclaveret is cooking dinner for all of us today :)11:31
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Bisclavereti don't think a coppermine core celeron would survive too well at 3.81 voltage to core ;)11:31
Bisclaveretconsidering it uses less than half that11:31
Bisclaveretand an antec CPUSolutions copper cooler should be overkill for it. my 566mhz celly only needed a passive heatsink with a small fan screwd inbetween the coils ;)11:32
Bisclaveretconsidering said heatsink is for 3000+ athlons11:32
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Seveasrofl11:33
HajuuHey there.. Im a web developer... And I need to be able to preview what a page will look like in IE but I have no windows PC around... Anyone think of a solution? Eg.. a browser which pretty much mimics IE..11:34
Dreamer3_Hajuu: *laughs*11:34
Guybrush|WorkHajuu: Impossible, who would ever mimic IE ???!?! :)11:34
Dreamer3_Hajuu: run IE under linux...11:34
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paxonfirefox ieview?11:35
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HajuuYeah I know its a silly thought11:35
Hajuuieview?11:35
SeveasHajuu, crossover office can run IE11:35
HajuuDreamer3_:  id like to avoid that if I can11:35
Hajuucrossover office eh11:35
Hajuufree?11:35
Seveasnope11:35
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Dreamer3_Hajuu: ie is ie11:36
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Dreamer3_Hajuu: no, but unless you have gentoo the time to get IE up and running is well spent just buying cross-over11:36
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Dreamer3_there was a nice ebuild for gentoo to do it all for you11:36
Hajuuhmmm11:36
HajuuWell that sucks11:37
Hajuuheh11:37
Zindarinstall winetools... it does it for you.. well.. did in warty.. haven't tried in hoary11:37
Hajuuwinetools?11:37
Zindarinstalls ie from the net automatically and all11:37
Hajuuoooh11:37
Zindaryes.. you can find it on winehq11:37
Zindarubuntu packages and all11:37
zythwill winetools conflict with Cedega?11:37
ZindarI haven't tried it in hoary.. worked beutiful in warty11:38
HajuuI dont even have wine installed anymore11:38
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zythwinetools is in synaptic btw11:38
Hajuusince I put cedega on11:38
Zindarabout11:38
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Zindarahh11:38
Zindarit is...11:38
Zindarkool11:38
Zindar:)11:38
smotthi. is there a way to enable multicasting without recompiling the kernel?11:38
paxonHajuu, http://ieview.mozdev.org/11:38
Zindarsmott: ehh.. yes... it's on by default :911:39
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Hajuupaxon: whats this?11:39
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paxonfirefox extension.11:39
smottZindar: mplayer disagrees (when trying to open udp stream: IP_ADD_MEMBERSHIP failed (do you have multicasting enabled in your kernel?))11:39
Hajuu"IE View is a simple Mozilla and Mozilla Firefox extension (for Microsoft Windows systems), which allows the current page or a selected link to be opened in Internet Explorer. "11:39
HajuuI dont actually *have* ie for it to be opened in11:40
mypapit-asleepsmott, there a no known good way to enable multicasting except to recompile it with multicasting enabled..11:40
vampire123deer park like firefox11:40
vampire123very like11:40
paxonHajuu, read on.11:40
Hajuummkay11:40
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mypapit-asleepsmott, check if you already loaed the kernel multicasting module... there are chances that your kernel is compile with it as a module, and you havent load it yet..11:40
Zindarsmott: I'm guessing it's because of something else... you just get the wrong message.... I would be very surpriced if ubuntu disables that... all other distros I've tried has it enabled by default11:40
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Zindarahh.. that can be it11:41
mypapit-asleep*already* loaded..11:41
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HajuuNo it definately requires a ie install to run, paxon11:41
Hajuuan ie install which I dont have11:41
paxonk.11:41
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Hajuuthanks anyway11:42
zythI want to run IE! ;)11:42
Bisclaveretzyth: i have a pentium 1 133mhz compy running win95 with IE 3.0 for ya..11:42
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smottZindar: quite possibly11:42
zythwhee!11:42
zythI used to have the IE that came will Bill G's Autobiography...11:43
paxonlol11:43
mypapit-asleeplol11:43
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Bisclavereti was able to install IE 5.5 on it, as well as uninstall it perfectly. since it never had IE4, it has no IE-OS integration11:43
zythI think it was IE 1.011:43
mypapit-asleepzyth, where did you get it?11:43
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zythmypapit-asleep, sadly, with the book11:43
zythBUT I WAS LIKE 1211:43
fireixeei... guys!...11:43
zythhe was my hero ;)(11:43
Dreamer3_anyone know anything about grub?11:43
Bisclaveretof course, that also means that navigation in Explorer (not Internet Exploror) is more painful as you can't input directories, etc11:44
fireixewe can i get an acrobat reader for deb packages?!.11:44
Bisclaveretand some other more painful side effects11:44
Hajuuhell.. maybe if im really good IE will just install under cedega11:44
Hajuuyou reckon?11:44
fireixewe can i get an acrobat reader for deb packages?11:45
fireixewhere can i get an acrobat reader for deb packages?11:45
gustavfireixe: it's in the backports11:45
Bisclaverethttp://www.angelfire.com/moon/bisclaveret0/heh.gif <-- IE 3.0 trying to view www.mozilla.org11:45
Quazioni downloaded acrobat 7 from the adobe site works pretty good11:46
fireixegustav: wat do you mean?11:46
zythwinetools is crapping itself with 'cannot find wineboot' grrr11:46
Hajuulol Bisclaveret11:46
fireixegustav: coz im new to linux11:46
gustavfireixe: the backport repository has acrobat reader 711:46
QuazionBisclaveret, i think nt4.0 has ie 3.0 or something installed with which you cant download a new version from the ms site, since it crashes on the javascritp used :)11:47
gustavfireixe: http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/11:47
fireixegustav: thank you very much11:47
gustavfireixe: you're welcome11:47
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ggnnuuHi all11:48
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fireixegustav: which part of the site? im using windows right now.11:49
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BisclaveretQuazion: i grew up using Navigator 4.0-4.61. tis why i use mozilla suite. the programs are nearly identical in layout and options, and the mail/usenet program is *exactly* the same11:50
Bisclaveretwell, except the handy rot-13 encoder option ;)11:51
gustavfireixe: just follow the instructions under basic usage info, then you'll be able to install acrobat reader via synaptic or apt-get11:51
Bisclavereti really don't like FF though. though if i had a choice of modernish proggys on a slow windows computer, i would use K-Meleon. it ran GREAT on said 133mhz11:52
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smottmypapit-asleep: what's the multicast module called?11:52
fireixegustav: ok, i already found it.11:52
Bisclaverethttp://www.angelfire.com/moon/bisclaveret0/images/May09121.JPG11:56
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Bisclaveretis there any ELKS distros still alive?11:56
berkesoi folks!11:56
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berkesis there a quick command to find all the installed packages on a box?11:57
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thoreauputicberkes: dpkg -l | less11:57
berkesthoreauputic: thanks11:57
fireixeis there other program like NIS? i can setup?11:58
Seveasberkes, dpkg --get-selections | less11:58
berkesthoreauputic: apt-get install apt-show-versions  seems to do the trick too afaik, just found taht with google11:58
Seveasthat'll give complete names11:58
berkesSeveas: thanks11:59
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larsrohdinHi, I'm using Grub to boot either XP or ubuntu, how can i change the order of the systems in the list I see at boot?12:01
fireixethank you everybody!12:02
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larsrohdinI found a menu.lst file, is it just to change the order there?12:03
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lewwyhey guys.  Windows xp took over my grub boot loader and i'm trying to get it back using system resuce cd (linux based).  can someone please help me?12:04
gustavlarsrohdin: it's the default option in the beginning of the file that specifies wich system to boot12:04
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lewwyanyone help me?12:05
larsrohdinso, should I uncomment this: ## default num  and then enter the number of the os i want to be first in the list there?12:07
gustavlarsrohdin: yes12:08
larsrohdinok, thx12:08
gustavlarsrohdin: it starts at 0, so if windows is fourth in the list it should say default 312:08
larsrohdinand I will still be able to choose from the others to?12:09
gustavlarsrohdin: yes12:09
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thoreauputiclarsrohdin: be careful - grub has weird commenting conventions12:10
thoreauputiclarsrohdin: read crefully12:10
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kvikhow to setup isdn on ubuntu?12:10
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larsrohdinok ill give it a shot, thanks guys12:11
devianthello guys12:11
devianthow can i add masquerading from eth0 to eth1 to iptable ?  i want to share my internet connection12:12
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pfpdeviant: do you have dynamic or static public ip?12:12
deviantpfp: i have a pppoe connection12:12
jfk303When using unace how do I extract it so the files are extracted into the folders the archiver made not just a list of all the files in the current directory12:13
pfpdeviant: hmm, i haven't used pppoe... probably dynamic then?12:14
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pfpdeviant: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 10.0.0.0/24 -d \! 10.0.0.0/24 -j MASQ12:14
pfpthat should do the trick, replace 10.0.0.0/24 with your LAN's network address12:15
coulix there a command which ll merge the total space of my hard drive to see how much there is totaly ?12:16
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deviantpfp: i`ve tried with "iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE12:16
deviant", but is not working12:16
tiglionabbitrr, sleep time.  goodnight everyone12:16
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galuhhallo room12:17
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[v2hja] !seen delire12:17
ubotudelire <~delire@keane01.workstation.org.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 13h 44m 12s ago, saying: '[v2hja]  and there's nothing wrong with your english ;)'.12:17
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pfpdeviant: right, MASQUERADE is the correct word at least. i usually like to use ip addresses instead of devices12:18
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Quazioni am having trouble with vncviewer it crashes when i use listen mode, it says X error BadName color or font and Major opcode of failed request 45 X_OPenFont12:18
deviantso ...what shoul i do ?12:18
pfpdeviant: hmm, do you have the conntrack* modules loaded12:18
deviantdon`t know12:19
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jy2hello12:19
deviantwhat are those used for ?12:19
galuhhi12:19
galuhwhat?12:19
jy2does anyone have experience with radeon 7000 on linux?12:19
pfpdeviant: they're used to track (TCP) connections, which the kernel needs to do to share one ip to many boxen12:20
deviantoh12:20
jfk303how do I change the owner of a folder12:20
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[v2hja] eee12:21
[v2hja] lol12:21
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pfpdeviant: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/92  <-- append that to /etc/modules12:21
[v2hja] is england GMT +1 ?12:21
jfk303[v2hja] ,  no12:21
thoreauputicjfk303: chown user:group <directory>12:21
deviantpfp: but i just want to do a simple masquerading12:21
[v2hja] so12:21
[v2hja] what is the time there now ?12:22
jfk303GMT = Grenich Mean Time, Grenich is in ENgland12:22
pfpdeviant: exactly :)12:22
jfk303GMT +012:22
kakaltocan I do software-RAID with fat32?12:22
kakaltoor do I have to do ext2/3 or reiserfs?12:22
deviantso i have to load them ?12:22
[v2hja] so its like 11.22 there ?12:22
[v2hja] so its like 11.22 there ?12:22
pfpdeviant: actually, run 'lsmod' to see if all of those are loaded, if not, you need 'em12:22
thoreauputicjfk303: use the -R switch for recursive changes in the dir12:22
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(pfp/#ubuntu) deviant: yep, some protocols like irc, ftp etc need helper modules to survive NAT12:23
[v2hja] jfk303,12:23
[v2hja] what is the time there ?`12:23
jfk30311.24 am12:24
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jfk303sorry was away for a min12:24
[v2hja] k :D12:24
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pfpdeviant: if they are not loaded, run for i in `cat  /etc/modules |grep ^ip` ; do sudo modprobe $i ; done (after saving the file)12:25
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Whistleris it possible to run  IE with wine?12:25
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araw1good day! :)12:26
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peter__Hi12:27
bigfoot1hello. a question from a newbie. I am just wondering where if there is a list of chatrooms somewhere on this freenode.net area, or even a universal directiory. I'd like to connect with a country-based chatroom. Thank you12:27
jfk303thoreauputic, so how do I change the owner of all the files in the directory: chown james Massive -R12:27
jfk303Massive = dir12:27
Bazzibigfoot1 /list12:27
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deviantpfp: here they are: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/9312:28
Whistleris it possible to run  IE with wine?12:28
thoreauputicjfk12:28
thoreauputicjfk303: no12:28
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deviantpfp: what now ?12:28
bigfoot1bazzi, thanks. will that list have only the chatrooms in freenode.net?12:28
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Bazziyes12:29
pfpWhistler: ok, your modules look good12:29
pfpwhops12:29
Whistler?12:29
Whistler:D12:29
thoreauputicchown -R james:Massive <dirname>12:29
pfpWhistler: heh, i've heard its possible to run IE12:29
thoreauputicjfk303: ^^^12:29
thoreauputicjfk303: oops12:29
jfk303huh?12:29
jfk303ctrl12:29
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pfpdeviant: krhm, your modules look fine. what do you have in your iptables now?12:30
thoreauputicchown -R james:james Massive12:30
deviantpfp: how do i see?12:30
thoreauputicjfk303: ^^12:30
pfpdeviant: iptables -t nat -vn -L12:30
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deviantpfp: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/9412:31
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bigfoot1is there a way i could find chatrooms that are outside freenode.net?12:31
peter__hnbe gestern den anmeldemanager ahfgemach und ein anderes Loging eingestellt und komm immoment nich wieder in den Anmeldemanager habe ausversehen netzwerk gelsht.Nun bekommme ich die meldung das ich in der /ets localhost etwas nder mu weil der Rechner beim start nicht ins Netz kommt.Ist da noch was zu retten?kan mir jemnt helfen?Peter12:31
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thoreauputicpeter__: /join #ubuntu-de12:31
prasysi got a question12:31
prasyswhy does ubuntu does not work well on PPC platform...12:32
deviantpfp: right now i`m usinf firestarter to share my internet connection, but is eating all my cpu :(12:32
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prasysi can't use my airport card...12:32
prasysbut other then that it works...btw , why does not kubuntu auto-mount all partition12:32
thoreauputicprasys: if it's airport extreme, blame Broadcom12:32
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pfpdeviant: the counters on the MASQ rule show that the rule is catching packets at least12:32
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prasystrue..I heard Broadcom is not giving the specs12:32
prasysI agree12:32
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prasyslousy broadcom12:32
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thoreauputicprasys: in answer to the second question, because not everyone wants that12:33
prasysthanks..i got it12:33
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m0r0nI ve extended my memory from 256 to 512 MB. Do I have to change the size of the swap partition?12:33
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thoreauputicm0r0n: how much swap do you have?12:33
prasyscan..m0ron12:34
prasysits better12:34
bigfoot1My X-chat has a long list of servers. how do i know which one to choose if I'm looking for a country-based chatroom?12:34
m0r0nhm, good question12:34
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prasysbut normally if you let ubuntu do it , it uses double right..(DEPENDS how much space you give to it)12:34
deviantpfp: in ifconfig i have eth0, eth1, loopback and ppp0. i want to masquerade eth1 over eth0.12:34
deviantpfp: i think :P12:34
thoreauputicm0r0n: probably not necessary if you  have 500MB or so12:34
pfpdeviant: or eth1 over ppp0, since you are using pppoe... i think .)12:35
m0r0nWhat command is used to show the size? swapon -a, df, mount?12:35
thoreauputicm0r0n: sudo fdisk -l to see your existing partitions12:36
deviantpfp: yeah. but ppp0 is actualy eth0. as i said, i`m usind pppoe on a ethernet card12:36
m0r0nfdisk -l -> /dev/hda5 9641 9733 746991 82 Linux swap ?12:37
pfpdeviant: yep. i recon the kernel would be picky about which interface you configure iptables with (which is why i advice against using interface names there)12:37
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pfpdeviant: you could try with that command i gave earlier; you need to empty your nat table first with iptables -t nat -F12:38
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thoreauputicm0r0n: plenty12:38
m0r0nok12:38
deviantpfp: do i need to stop firestarter?12:38
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pfpdeviant: hmm probably, i'm not sure what it does :)12:39
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deviantpfp: so "iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 10.0.0.0/24 -d \! 10.0.0.0/24 -j MASQ" will do the job ?12:39
pfpdeviant: it's either a frontend to iptables or something else12:39
deviantpfp: is fontend to iptables12:39
Funraiseri'm reading an HOWTO and it says to configure the kernel first : go to File systems ---> Network File Systems / where is that?12:40
pfpdeviant: you need to replace 10.0.0.0/24 with your lan's real ip range12:40
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pfpdeviant: if it's just a frontend, how come it's eating your CPU?12:40
deviantpfp: that wold be 192.168.10.0 i think12:40
deviantpfp: don`t know ;(12:40
pfpdeviant: better to get rid of it anyway then :)12:41
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deviantpfp: as soon as i get the ICS up and runing12:41
pfpdeviant: but hmm, since the rule it created works, you might as well keep that and put it somewhere else12:41
deviantpfp: somehere else? like where?12:42
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pfpdeviant: so umm (sorry if my output is garbled, i should be asleep already -) the 'eth1' stanza in /etc/network/interfaces would be a good lace12:43
pfp*place12:43
smotti'm about to reinstall windows on my hd which will install its bootloader, what exactly do i need to execute on the ubuntu livecd to replace it with lilo/grub (whatever it's using)?12:44
pfpdeviant: you probably have like 'iface eth1 inet static\n address bla bla ..' there12:44
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pfpafter the address, broadcast etc lines for eth1, add one that says 'up sh iptables -t nat -F'12:45
deviantpfp: you`ve lost me there  :( i can`t understand a thing12:45
pfpaww :(())()12:45
devianthehe12:45
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detIs there such thing as a totem mozilla plug-in?12:46
deviantpfp: this is how my interfaces look like: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/9612:47
pfpheh, i was about to ask you that :)12:47
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deviantpfp: so i need to add there my eth1 i think..12:48
deviantor not?12:48
pfpomg, it uses hotplug, i'm too old for that12:48
Akrame`jouehow old are you ?12:48
Akrame`joue:D12:48
devianthehe12:48
pfpis your eth1 working currently?12:48
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deviantpfp: right now , yes. i`ve just configure it with ifconfig12:49
pfp25, but i meant old as in linux habits12:49
pfpdeviant: ah, fine12:49
deviantpfp: all i need from eth1 is the ip, which is 192.168.10.212:50
deviantpfp: what`s with hotplug?12:50
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pfpdeviant: nothing, i thought hotplug had magically configured your eth1 and doing it manually would mess things up12:51
pfpbut since you did it by hand, this should be ok too12:51
Akrame`jouesee ya12:51
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deviantpfp: won`t i need to add eth1 there, so i won`t have to configure it each time i start the computer?12:52
pfpdeviant: yep12:53
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pfpdeviant: i really shouldn't be giving you ready-made conf files, but here goes http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/9712:54
deviantpfp: and how do i do that. i face eth1 and what else?12:54
newbieanyone knows any program like NIS which I can use?12:54
pfpdeviant: check out the pastebin..12:55
deviantpfp: aha, i think i understand now12:55
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thoreauputicnewbie: I think you need to rephrase your question: what's wrong with using NIS ?12:56
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pfpdeviant: that should create the same rule that firestarter did (for the nat table)12:56
pfpdeviant: if you have some filtering rules (iptables -vn -L), created by FS, you need to add them too12:57
deviantpfp: so now i have to stop the firestarter and reboot the pc ?12:57
deviantFS ?12:57
pfpFS=firestarter12:57
deviantow12:57
pfpdeviant: no need to reboot, just type 'ifconfig eth1 down' , then 'ifup eth1'12:58
deviantno, there are no rules. atlest i didn`t made any12:58
deviantaha12:58
pfpon next reboot, everything should be up automatically12:58
pfpok, good12:58
deviantpfp: do i need to clear the nat table first ? with iptables -t nat -F ?12:59
pfpdeviant: when you run ifup eth1, it runs that -F command too01:00
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deviantaha01:00
[v2hja] delire,01:00
[v2hja] hi01:00
pfpreading 'man ifup' is of course a good idea ,)01:01
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deviantpfp: it is working. 10x dude :)01:02
newbieanyone know program using the concept of NIS?01:03
deviantpfp: i will, as soon as i`m done with the school exams ...which will be in like, 1 month :(01:03
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newbieanyone know program using the concept of NIS?01:06
linuxboywhats the name of the flast package in ubuntu?01:06
linuxboyflash01:06
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pfpdeviant: ooh, great :)01:07
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black_Nightmarehey there :p01:07
eggsgplflash > flash01:08
mirkashjoin #mirkash01:08
deviantpfp: i owe you a beer :)01:08
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deviantpfp: nighty night :)01:08
black_Nightmareany of you ppc users at all here?01:08
pfpdeviant: cheers .)01:09
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kakaltoyay!01:19
kakaltoI got RAID to work01:19
rob^why does the wiki not allow anyone to sign up?01:21
kakaltoit doesn't?01:22
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rob^I click sign up and it says to fill out the four fields, but there is only 2, Name and Password01:23
rob^I mean, I click "login"01:23
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learn25hi all!01:25
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learn25i need your help. i just follwed the instructions of setting up dhcp server at www.ubuntuguide.org but it wont start.01:26
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learn25anybody can help me?01:26
learn25i need your help. i just followed the instructions of setting up dhcp server at www.ubuntuguide.org but it wont start.01:27
learn25anybody can help me?01:27
firasRlearn25:  did you check your logs for any errors ?01:27
firasRlearn25:  /var/log/messages ?01:27
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firasRlearn25: first go to /var/log01:28
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firasRlearn25:  run ls in that directory to see what log files are there, are there any log files named dhcp-something or other ?01:29
learn25i saw the log but it looks foreign to me01:29
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learn25ok01:29
Seveaslearn25, wired or wireless?01:29
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natecullhi01:29
natecullI have a problem with printing on Hoary01:30
learn25i have to NIC eth0 and eth101:30
firasRhi nate01:30
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learn25i want to share eth0 to the rest of the pc01:30
natecullif I cancel a print job on my printer, even if I clear the print job from the Print Manager, I still get data spooling to the printer when I turn it on again01:30
learn25i need your help. i just followed the instructions of setting up dhcp server at www.ubuntuguide.org but it wont start.01:30
natecullany idea what's going on?01:30
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Seveaslearn25, forget ubuntuguide01:30
firasRlearn25:  please don't repeat your question multiple times01:30
Seveaslearn25, install firestarter01:31
karamazofpfp: hi I'm back :-z01:31
learn25how to install fire starter?01:31
natecullI need to be able to completely clear a job from the print subsystem. I've tried restarting /etc/init.d/cupsys, but no luck01:31
rob^doh!01:31
natecullthere's no job showing in lpq, but if I turn my printer off and on it is getting a job from somewhere...01:31
karamazofpfp: I tried to launch amule being root, and I got high id01:32
natecullI can clear this by rebooting, but I don't want to reset my uptime. :)01:32
karamazofpfp: hourray01:32
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Octaneanyone know what happened to the openoffice2.org-core pkg?01:32
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thoreauputicnatecull: the job might be cached in the printer itself01:33
karamazofcan someone tell me how to give to a user the right to acces my 4662 port?01:33
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natecullthoreauputic: It's an HP Deskjet 400. I don't think it'01:33
karamazofand use amule01:33
natecullit's got any RAM01:33
natecullcertainly none that persists after a power-cycle01:33
natecullI never used to have this problem on Fedora Core 1, which is what I was running before Hoary01:33
thoreauputicnatecull: right, I was just having a guess really - I've seen that happen01:34
carambolhow i get sound out of stream-links in ubuntu?01:34
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seliniumkaramzof: Install firestarter and it is pretty easy to open ports using it. Any probs get back.01:34
thoreauputiccarambol: a number of ways01:34
natecullthoreauputic: yeah, I'm scratching my head01:34
thoreauputiccarambol: what kind of stream?01:34
carambolradio01:34
karamazofselinium: my ports are open, I can use them being root,...01:35
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thoreauputiccarambol: uh - mp3 shoutcast? windows media? real?01:35
caramboli enabled esd butno sound01:35
carambolbbc,radio NL01:35
thoreauputiccarambol: BBC uses realplay01:35
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carambolbut no sound01:36
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thoreauputiccarambol: so you would need realplater to listen01:36
thoreauputic*realplayer01:36
carambolalso no sound witj mpl or real01:36
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underdogguys... in breezy, when can I update safelly without xbase-clients removing nvidia-glx? :(01:36
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thoreauputiccarambol: you get sound playing local mp3 etc?01:36
firasRlearn25:  what do you get when u do sudo /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server restart01:36
deco_hi, i'll have bt878 series pci video capture card, where could i get drivers and software for that?01:37
seliniumkaramazof: Applications/Sytem Tools/Network Tools  then Port Scan 127.0.0.101:37
caramboli have not try that01:37
deco_or actually i have it now01:37
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carambolshould i use esd?01:37
deco_esd for what?01:37
deco_alsa is better01:37
karamazofselinium: 4662 open01:38
thoreauputiccarambol: well, try it - we can't sort out the streaming issues until you know if sound works locally01:38
seliniumthoreauputic: Is was wondering what realplater was! :) Good to see you01:38
caramboli am using both gnome and kde01:38
rob^i bet that sux01:38
seliniumkaramazof: What are you trying to do with the port? what kind of access are you trying to give?01:38
carambolthoreauputic, i have installed both gnome and kde01:39
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karamazofselinium: I am trying to use it with amule, whitch is configurated to use that port01:39
carambolin kde no probl01:39
natecullweird. If I shut down cupsys completely, I still get data spooling to the printer01:39
natecullwonder if the lp kernel module is caching data somehow?01:40
karamazofselinium: When running amule being root, I have no problem... but just running it normally I ged no acces to 4662 port01:40
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seliniumkaramazof: I see... When you ran the port scan, that was as the user and not root, yes?01:41
thoreauputicnatecull: have you tried lprm ?01:41
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sandipMy heartfelt thanks to Canonical for shipping 5.04 over to my place for distributing to my local LUG. :)01:42
sandip... to New Delhi, India.01:43
rob^sandip, I got them in Aus too, good service that01:43
thoreauputicsandip: if you want to thank the developers themselves, join #ubuntu-devel :)01:44
seliniumsandip: me too, in the UK. I wonder which travelled the furthest!01:44
sandipthoreauputic: thanks. will do.01:44
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sandipselinium: the envelope said they came from netherlands. :-/01:44
thoreauputicbut I got a few at Ubuntu Downunder anyway :)01:44
natecullthoreauputic: yes, lprm reports there are no jobs in the queue01:45
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natecullthat's why I'm suspecting that it's not CUPS which is sending the information to the printer01:45
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seliniumnatecull: Have you switched of your printer and restarted it?01:45
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thoreauputicnatecull: is it sitting in /tmp or something, maybe?01:45
natecullselinium: yes. When I turn the printer on again, its data light starts flashing01:45
natecullthoreauputic: that's what I'm guessing, I just have no idea where.01:45
seliniumnatecull: swithc off the printer, and disconnect it from the PC. switch it back on, to see if the printer is running on its own01:46
seliniumhi thoreauputic :)01:47
thoreauputicnatecull: hehe.... mv /tmp/* /tmp/test (but that would maybe break something..)01:47
thoreauputicselinium: hi - I got cut off before :)01:47
thoreauputicselinium: ISP01:47
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seliniumthoreauputic: I saw! damn ISP what do we pay them for!01:47
natecullwhen I switch the printer off and unplug the data cable, it's just fine01:47
natecullwhen I connect it to the PC, it gets data01:48
thoreauputicselinium: heh - well I exceeded my time limit so I can't complain really ;)01:48
natecullthoreauputic: there were a couple of .ppd files in /tmp dated a few minutes ago, I deleted them but it still dumps data to the printer01:48
seliniumnatecull: great now we are certain it is the computer sending to the information.01:48
natecullselinium: yeah01:48
hypn0_i want to install packages maually, r they all in the pool directory01:48
thoreauputichypn0_: why?01:49
natecullI notice there's an 'lptune -r' command that claims to reset the parallel port, but it says 'Device or resource busy'01:49
natecullI've shut down cupsys01:49
natecullwhat else would be holding /dev/lp0 open?01:49
hypn0_thoreauputic, no net access yet :-)01:49
thoreauputichypn0_: I see...01:49
FunraiserChina's biggest bank makes switch to linux http://www.networkworld.com/news/2005/0429chinabigge.html01:49
thoreauputicnatecull: fuser /dev/lp0   ?01:49
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seliniumnatecull: /etc/init.d/cupsys force-reload ? have you tried that?01:50
natecullthoreauputic: fuser /dev/lp0 gives me no output01:50
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natecullselinium: oops. cupsd: Child exited with status 13!01:51
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natecullguess that means it doesn't want to start again...01:51
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seliniumnatecull: is cupsd up or down?01:54
natecullwait. Silly me01:54
natecullI tried to run that as user, not as sudo01:54
seliniumnatecull: :)01:54
nateculljust did a start then a force-reload as sudo and it's fine01:54
natecullwell, running...01:54
natecullbut printer's still getting data01:54
natecullso no effect01:55
karamazofselinium: sorry I was distrayed, yes the port scan was being user01:55
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thoreauputicnatecull: ps aux | grep lp*    ?01:55
seliniumnatecull: AAaaargh, I am getting out of my depth, maybe thoreauputic can help...... there you go!01:56
thoreauputicselinium: I'm just making what I hope might be intelligent guesses ;-)01:56
seliniumkaramazof: Then the port is open, and the problem does not lie with the port.01:56
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seliniumthoreauputic: Got to be better than mine then! :P01:57
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alonsohi everybody01:58
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alonsoi just used ubuntu today01:58
seliniumthoreauputic:  natecull: Got to go, too much work to do!01:58
thoreauputicselinium: BTW my pentium 200mmx is now running Ubuntu !01:58
stazzHey. a friend of mine has got two Konica Revio digital cameras, and they both do not automount, but HAL/GVM seems to work otherwise, as in, cd's do mount01:59
thoreauputic.. on 64MB RAM01:59
alonsoi would like to know that01:59
alonsohow can i upgrade mozilla-firefox as 1.0.4 by apt-get01:59
rob^alonso, if you are using hoary its already 1.0.401:59
thoreauputicalonso: you don't need to - just run apt-get upgrade01:59
Seveasalonso, FF in ubuntu is 1.0.2 with all 1.0.4 security patches applied01:59
Seveasyou do NOT need to update it02:00
thoreauputicalonso: if you need to install themes there's a simple hack..02:00
seliniumthoreauputic:  I thought mine was a dinosaur! Athlon 900 128k lol02:00
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thoreauputicselinium: I have 3 machines here - I wiped Debian Woody on the oldest one and put Ubuntu on as an experiment :)02:01
alonsook. i will try it02:01
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alonsoand if i want to use g9502:01
thoreauputicselinium: it's running fine on fluxbox :)02:01
thoreauputicg95 ??02:02
alonsofortran 9502:02
seliniumthoreauputic:  I am thinking of making a mailserver out of an old box.... When I get round to it!02:02
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seliniumthoreauputic:  too many relatives asking me to fix there machines after downloading infected mail..02:03
thoreauputicalonso: I see g77 compilers here...02:03
alonsoi got g77 already, sir02:03
natecullwoohoo02:04
natecullmanaged to rmmod lp02:04
natecullfinally02:04
natecullthat fixed it02:04
natecullsort of02:04
seliniumnatecull:  sort of?02:05
natecullnow the Deskjet thinks it wants a colour cartridge02:05
thoreauputicalonso: I don't see g95 in an apt-cache search - maybe ask in #ubuntu-devel if it is available?02:05
nateculloops, scrambled the job again. Let's try that again.02:05
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nateculljob is gone from queue. Printer is switched off...02:05
alonsoso, is it possible to download it from gnu project and install it??02:06
natecullreloaded lp...02:07
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thoreauputicalonso: Anything is possible ;)02:07
thoreauputicalonso: I don't see why not02:07
natecullpower on to printer... it doesn't attempt to print... so far so good02:07
rob^alonso, maybe its available from another apt soruce02:07
alonsothanks a lot, sir02:07
natecullok, working now02:07
natecullso reloading lp is the answer02:08
nateculldunno why it was blocked there for a moment.02:08
thoreauputicnatecull: I'll remeber that...02:08
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alonsowhat do you mean02:08
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thoreauputicnatecull: I had a similar experience a few years ago which I called my "Sorcerer's Apprentice" incident: printer wouldn't stop...02:09
alonsowhat do you mean, rob^02:09
rob^alonso, ubuntu uses the debian packaging system, you can add other apt-get sources to your system that include other packaes02:09
rob^*packages02:10
underdogguys... in breezy, when can I update safelly without xbase-clients removing nvidia-glx? :(02:10
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thoreauputicunderdog: probably not many Breezy users here...02:11
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rob^alonso, have a look at this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//HowToEnableTheMultiverseRepositoryInUbuntu02:11
thoreauputicrob^: I have multiverse enabled, but I don't see g95, only g7702:11
rob^the "mutiverse" repository contains other packages not available in a default install02:11
thoreauputicrob^: also a compiler distributed by GNU would not be in a non-free repository02:13
rob^thoreauputic, alonso try: apt-get install gfortran-4.002:13
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rob^from apt-cache search: gfortran-4.0 - The GNU Fortran 95 compiler02:13
Benjamin_Ldoes anyone here know how to restore default network setting if you accidentally changed something02:14
thoreauputicrob^: aha - good catch!02:14
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alonsorob^, thoreauputic, it downdoading and install02:14
rob^theres also the docs, gfortran-4.0-doc02:14
floaterHi. What's the proper way to remove pppoe internet connection from my ubuntu and then set up the internet connection as normal adsl connection from adsl's dhcp-server?02:15
alonsorob^, Is gfortran and fortran 95 the same???02:16
rob^alonso, its GNUs free implementation of fortran 9502:16
rob^see gfortran-4.0-doc02:17
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alonsorob^, there are some errors with gfortran02:19
alonsoErrors were encountered while processing:02:20
alonso /var/cache/apt/archives/gcc-4.0-base_4.0-0pre6ubuntu7_i386.deb02:20
alonso /var/cache/apt/archives/cpp-4.0_4.0-0pre6ubuntu7_i386.deb02:20
rob^does it say what errors?02:20
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rob^you may need to add the hoary-backports repositories to your apt-get sources02:21
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thoreauputicrob^: hrm - the package he's installing is in Universe, so the deps should be in main or universe02:22
rob^thoreauputic, for some reason it isnt02:22
alonsorob^, i just fixed it from its suggestion02:23
thoreauputicassuming his sources are properly configured02:23
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rob^I just tried pulling the fortran 95 packages itself02:23
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J2Dopegday. i have an ubuntu desktop pc, with an external hdd (all my music etc).. and i gots a winXP laptop02:24
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thoreauputicrob^: if you have backports enebled, of course you will get inconsistencies - apt will look for the latest versions02:24
J2Dopehow can i let my winxp laptop, access that externall HDD that is formatted to ext3 ?02:24
rob^thoreauputic, well, he isnt getting the packages at all02:24
rob^at least it satifies the deps02:25
thoreauputicrob^: alonso rob^, i just fixed it from its suggestion02:25
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thoreauputicI thought he fixed it?02:25
anacronJ2Dope: samba!02:25
J2Dopeanyone?02:25
markus_you just format it do fat02:25
rob^apt-get -f install?02:25
markus_or ntfs02:25
J2Dopesamba eh02:25
J2Dopenooo i dont want it to be fat or ntfs.. cos then linux can't write to it02:25
alonsorob^, yes, is it true02:25
J2Dopedo i need to install anything on windows to get samba working?02:26
thoreauputicJ2Dope: linux can write to fat3202:26
markus_linux CAN write ntfs02:26
markus_there are several tools02:26
anacronlinux can make you better person!02:26
J2Dopehmmmm... that would require backing up about 80gigz of data onto dvds... i think ill leave it as ext3 and try this samba stuff02:26
markus_yeah i got a better person ;-)02:26
thoreauputicmarkus_: they are still regarded as experimental in most quarters02:26
J2Dopei know i got samba installed. just dunno how to use it :P02:27
J2Dopedoes samba have a gui?02:27
ice04Hi all i need to install sendmail, how can i apt-get02:27
rob^ice04, dee #sendmail02:27
rob^*see02:27
markus_just use synaptic thats much easier02:28
thoreauputicice04: it's in universe02:28
ice04just using it for learning purposes02:28
thoreauputicice04: enable universe && apt-get update && apt-get install sendmail02:28
ice04What would be the most stable, secure, easy to manage MTA02:28
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alonsothanks for thoreauputic and rob^ again02:29
rob^hehe MTA wars!!02:29
rob^np02:29
J2Dopeok. question. can WINDOWS write to linux formatted drives?02:29
rob^J2Dope, ext2 it can with the right drivers..02:29
thoreauputicJ2Dope: there are some tools - I forget the name but google knows all02:29
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J2Dopelol ok. google is cool. but straight answers are better aye ;)02:30
J2Dopethanks guys . peace02:30
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ice04Exim, Qmail02:31
hypn0_i just found http://packages.ubuntu.com/ :-)02:31
markus_good man!02:31
thoreauputicice04: you will get a lot of differing opinions on this one *grin*02:31
ice04any sit i can check out that discusses the 2 MTA's02:32
thoreauputiconly 2?02:32
ice04Basically i have a client that wants a Mail server, i cant decide on sendmail, Exim, or Qmail02:32
ice04i have never worked on any of them before02:32
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thoreauputicice04: there was a comparison article in Linux Format a year or two ago..02:32
thoreauputicice04: you might find it online or be able to get it02:33
thoreauputicice04: you realise the Ubuntu default is postfix?02:33
ice04Thoreauputic: will google it out :-)02:33
ice04thanks again02:33
rob^hypn0_, whats wrong with apt-cache?02:34
ice04Postfix ??02:34
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hypn0_rob^ dont have net access :-/02:35
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rob^thoreauputic, hehe yeah02:37
hypn0_in ubuntu yet :-)02:37
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markus_i just got my 3D running on ubuntu...02:39
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lbminotify enabled in breezy kernels?02:41
topylihmm. beagled launches a dozen shells, all running mono :)02:41
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lbmit doesn't seem to be inotifized02:42
krodhello, how would i make a swap partition when ubuntu is alreadly installed?02:42
topyliit's not02:42
lbmno /dev/inotify either02:42
topylii hope it makes it into breezy02:42
lbmisn't the kernel patched but not enabled?02:43
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topylilbm: in breezy i don't know. in hoary you need to patch it yourself IIRC02:43
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krodhello, how would i make a swap partition when ubuntu is alreadly installed....i seem have forgotten to while i was installing ubuntu02:44
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lbmtopyli: okay, i'll take a look in the source packages02:44
thoreauputickrod: are you sure? Or was it made for you by default? What does sudo fdisk -l show?02:45
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thoreauputickrod: you can make a swap file by using dd to make a file of XMB of zeros, then run swapon, but I forget the right dd syntax02:46
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rob^krod, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com//SwapFaq02:46
krodkrod@krodtop:~/tools$ fdisk -l02:47
krodkrod@krodtop:~/tools$02:47
thoreauputickrod: sudo fdisk -l02:47
thoreauputickrod: it needs access with root privileges02:47
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=== rob^ thinks we need a #debian style bot in here
fabbioneseb128: mostlikely :)02:48
fabbioneops02:48
thoreauputic!who owns you02:48
ubotuthoreauputic: Bugger all, i dunno02:48
thoreauputichaha02:49
thoreauputicubotu has amnesia again02:49
ubotuI haven't a clue, thoreauputic02:49
thoreauputic!restricted02:49
ubotufrom memory, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats02:49
Seveasthoreauputic, stop abusing the bot...02:49
krodDevice Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System02:49
krod/dev/hda1   *           1        2550    20482843+   7  HPFS/NTFS02:49
krod/dev/hda2            2551        4864    18587205   83  Linux02:49
thoreauputicSeveas: crap02:49
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Seveasdo not paste in here!02:49
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thoreauputicSeveas: i wasn't even remotely abusing it02:49
Seveasthoreauputic, !who owns you ....02:50
krodok, but it was two lines.....02:50
bartekp_;>02:50
topylikrod: ok, you don't have swap02:50
Seveaskrod, ah ok :)02:50
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thoreauputicSeveas: I was just showing rob^ it exists02:50
Seveaskrod, usually fdisk -l spits out more, that's why i muted you02:50
krodSeveas: i got the wireless working btw :)02:50
Seveasnice :)02:50
thoreauputicSeveas: get a life, mate02:50
Seveasthoreauputic, sorry then02:50
rob^does the bot do much?02:50
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waka/join #fedora02:51
Benjamin_Ldoes anyone know whick package contains /etc/hosts ?02:51
rob^pfft02:51
Seveasrob^, it can remember things and give answers when you type !something02:51
SeveasBenjamin_L, dpkg -S /etc/hosts02:51
wakascuse02:51
thoreauputicSeveas: apology accepted: you should know by now I don't play those kinds of games, though02:52
Seveasthoreauputic, i know, i was surprised by it :)02:52
topylirob^: it doesn't know much yet apparently02:52
rob^Seveas, does it answer ubuntu-related questions ala #debian?02:52
rob^hehe02:52
topyliwe need to teach it02:52
Seveasrob^, yes02:52
Benjamin_LSeveas, doesn't find a package02:52
thoreauputicSeveas: it used to have a factoid saying it was cafuego's bot - hence the initial question02:52
SeveasBenjamin_L, then it's part of the debootstrap install02:52
rob^how does it learn?02:53
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Benjamin_Lcan some breezy user message me the standard hosts file please ?02:53
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Seveasby typing: ubotu blah is something it will know !blah02:53
kvidellsee ya02:53
rob^in the chan, or prvmsg?02:53
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Benjamin_Lprvmsg02:53
Seveasunfortuneately chan too02:53
rob^cool02:53
rob^hah02:53
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Benjamin_Lah, missunderstood ^^02:54
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krodok, now i have a 512mb swap02:54
krod:)02:54
krodthat should be enough?02:54
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Seveasubotu windowsdrives is Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/windows_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically02:55
ubotuSeveas: okay02:55
topylikrod: how much ram do you have?02:55
krod256mb02:55
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topylikrod: it should do it02:55
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CableguyGood morning02:56
Benjamin_La horay hosts file would do aswell :) i just don't want to wait more than 10s if i enter the adress of a page02:56
topylikrod: i have 256M ram and i hardly swap with usual workstation stuff02:56
SeveasBenjamin_L: Open firefox and go to about:config. Now search for network.dns.disableIPV6 and set that value to true. Restart Firefox to see the effect.02:56
Seveas /etc/hosts does not contain a lot of useful things02:57
Benjamin_LSeveas, wow, that did the trick, but it worked before aswell02:57
Benjamin_Lso thats why I'm asking02:57
Seveas:)02:57
CableguyIPV6?  what is that all about?02:57
theine_Hi, is anybody using acroread 7.0 from hoary-extras (Ubuntu Backports)?02:57
topylitheine_: sorry to say but yes i upgraded02:58
Seveastheine_, i'm using it from the binary installer provided by adobe02:58
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theine_The thing is that acroread from hoary-extras depends on a more recent version of libgcc1 than is present in hoary...02:59
Seveastheine_, ouch that sucks02:59
rob^Seveas, using "ubotu blah is something" doesnt seem to work02:59
Seveasthat libgcc1 is available in hoary-backports02:59
Seveasrob^, scroll a bit back02:59
SeveasI just taught him something02:59
Seveas!windowsdrives02:59
ubotufrom memory, windowsdrives is Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/windows_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically02:59
greebohi all, anyone had to install ubuntu onto a machine with a usb cdrom? I'm looking at installing using the debian boot floppies and then "upgrading" to ubuntu. Sound plausible?03:00
theine_Seveas, it does, especially since acroread evidentelly runs very fine with an older version of libgcc1...03:00
greeboI've tried it and get serious usb errors03:00
rob^Seveas, it doesnt seem to work in prvmsg03:00
Seveasrob^, ah ok03:00
SeveasI never said it would :D03:00
rob^:)03:00
Seveastheine, then download the deb, unar it, edit the debian/control and re-ar it :)03:01
theine_Seveas, thanks, i'll try that03:01
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CableguyAnyone recomend a quite serial raid drive, my shit is way to loud03:02
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Seveasthoreauputic, please :)03:03
Seveasmy colleagues don't like when all of I sudden i start to laugh loudly03:03
thoreauputic:)03:03
topyligreebo: don't know about the usb problems but upgrading from woody might work03:03
rob^!g9503:04
uboturob^: I don't know03:04
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Cableguyyea.. thanks for the help03:04
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rob^ubotu g95 is gfortran-4.0, the GNU Fortran 95 compiler.03:05
uboturob^: okay03:05
rob^!g9503:05
ubotug95 is probably gfortran-4.0, the GNU Fortran 95 compiler.03:05
rob^nice03:05
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thoreauputicrob^: heh - I've been hanging here for about 6 months or more and I've seen that question once ;)03:06
rob^well, now we wont forget :)03:07
thoreauputicrob^: but you never know when it might be useful I guess03:07
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greebotopyli, k, cheers03:07
thoreauputicrob^: right ! :)03:07
mindspinhi, anyone here using fwbuilder ?03:07
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rob^mindspin, try firestarter instead03:08
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mindspinnope, I use it and need just some simple information03:08
rob^try google03:09
mindspinthought somebody may use it here03:09
DaVe^_^hi could someone help me with cedega03:09
rob^theres got to be a good guide or two on there03:09
DaVe^_^im running x86 hoary and cedega doesnt detect the cd for some reason.. iv checked the forums couldnt help the problem tho03:10
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vortexhuhu. can i mount ftp folders? if yes: how?03:11
thoreauputicvortex: you don't mount ftp - it's a file transfer protocol03:12
Seveasvortex, you can sort-of mount them03:12
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rob^vortex, type ftp://ftpserver in natulius03:12
Seveasvortex, use places -> connect to server03:12
Seveasthat will integrate the server into the Gnome Virtual FileSystem03:12
thoreauputicah yes, OK - that can work with ssh too :)03:12
DaVe^_^no1 has any exp troubleshooting cedega?03:12
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HostingGeekdear my fellow h4x0rz03:13
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HostingGeeklook at what I found03:13
HostingGeekhttps://console.google.com/licensing/admin?cmd=reload&lastcmd=login03:13
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SeveasHostingGeek, why are you pasting that in here..?03:15
HostingGeekBecause my fellow h4x0rz would be intrestested in it03:16
SeveasWe are not crackers...03:16
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rob^hehe03:16
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SeveasIt's so nice how /remove does not trigger auto-rejoin :)03:17
Benjamin_LSeveas, do you probable know how to disable IPv& in thunderbird as well ? It seems to be a system wide problem03:17
DaVe^_^some ppl are idiots03:17
SeveasBenjamin_L, look at the wiki for disabling ipv6 completely03:17
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SeveasDaVe^_^, yeah, like those people that use abbreviations for everything...03:18
SeveasOr have smilies in their nicknames03:18
DaVe^_^lol03:18
DaVe^_^ok03:18
Seveas:)03:18
theine_Seveas, thanks for the hint with ar/unar, worked really nicely03:19
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nxv_how can i setup my server to boot at a given time, run some tasks and shutdown again?03:19
Seveasnice :)03:19
HostingGeekSeveas: we are hackers03:19
thoreauputic... or say lol all the time ...03:19
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Seveashmm03:19
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rob^hehe mute him03:19
Seveasneh03:19
Seveasfools like that ought to be removed03:19
xoznxv_: if it is shutdown, how can you possible start it without pressing the power key?03:19
Seveasooohhh - privmsgs :)03:20
nxv_xoz: wake on lan03:20
DaVe^_^shiet..03:20
rob^Seveas, aww.. your so lucky03:20
Seveasyeah :)03:20
DaVe^_^exetel is my host, thought u banned me for a sec03:20
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virtualdnxv_: boot time can be set in the bios setup, the rest you can do with a script run by cron03:20
Seveasaaand goodbye :)03:20
xoznxv_: that's sleeping, not shutdown?03:20
nxv_xoz: it comes up after init03:21
nxv_xoz: it comes up after init 003:21
vortexSeveas thx. that was what i was looking for. i cant find where i can edit the settings for the "place".03:21
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nxv_virtuald: i know, is there a way to set it from linux?03:21
vortexdoes that kind of work like shfs?03:21
virtualdnot that i know of03:21
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HostingGeeko.003:21
Seveasvortex, sort of03:21
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Benjamin_LSeveas, I wonder what caused this. It worked well until few hours ago. I'll reboot now03:22
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vortexSeveas, with shfs i can reach the mounted files from konsole03:23
gekociao raga03:23
rob^mmm choc-coated nice bikkies03:23
SeveasGnome-vfs is only reachable from gnome-vfs aware programs03:23
gekocome posso aggiungere programmi al menu?03:23
gekoops03:23
Seveasgeko, we speak english in here...03:23
geko:)03:23
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vortexi want to direktly open files from ftp with an texteditor. in windows i can do that with dreamweaver. i did not finde i way with linux :(03:24
Seveasvortex, you need to wait for LUFS to get an ftp implementation or for LUKS to get stable I guess...03:24
SeveasOr use a gnome-vfs aware text editor :D03:24
rob^vortex, do ftp://ftpserver in natulius then open the txt files from there03:24
tahorgvortex: gedit can do that03:25
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thoreauputictahorg: like ` gedit ftp://ftp.foo.org/myfile` ?03:27
rob^or nautilus.. even.03:27
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greebohappy to report the new sarge boot floppies are hell better, and appear to be doing the right thing. Fingers crossed03:28
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HajuuHey03:28
rob^thoreauputic, gedit has an "open location" under File menu03:28
HajuuAnyone here ever setup a VPN through ubuntu?03:28
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thoreauputicrob^: aha - learn something new every day ! Thanks :D03:28
rob^np03:28
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tahorgthoreauputic: nautilus can "connect to server"03:29
tahorgthoreauputic: then it appears in the open dialog in gedit03:29
thoreauputictahorg: that one I knew about :)03:29
thoreauputici see03:29
Benjamin_Lok, now i need a new hosts file, as it got deleted somehow...03:29
Seveasit does webdav too :)03:29
Benjamin_Lanyone ? ^^03:29
rob^Benjamin_L, do touch /etc/hosts03:30
vortexdows gedit have a files bar? like quanta?03:30
rob^bang, one hosts file03:30
SeveasBenjamin_L, pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/9803:30
tahorgthoreauputic: gedit ftp://user:login@server/path/to/file03:30
tahorgthoreauputic: works too03:30
SeveasBenjamin_L, and please edit it to reflect *your* hostname as 127.0.0.103:30
tahorggnome-vfs magic03:30
thoreauputictahorg: OK03:30
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Benjamin_LSeveas, will do03:30
vortexbut i would not be very time efficient to open every file that way.03:31
rob^vortex, my way is easier03:31
tahorgvortex: Places -> connect to server03:31
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vortexyes. but still no bar with the files03:32
rob^bbl03:32
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tahorg1003:33
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tahorgoops03:33
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HajuuAnyone here ever setup a VPN through ubuntu?03:34
tahorgHajuu: yep03:34
tahorgHajuu: "openvpn is teh way"03:34
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Abijahi need help logging into root03:34
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SeveasAbijah: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo03:34
HiddenWolfSeveas, nice reflexes! :P03:35
tahorgAbijah: sudo su03:35
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vortextahorg, the file attributes are set to root even if i add the place as user03:36
HajuuI cant figure out openvpn03:36
Hajuube able to give me some help?03:36
DaVe^_^has anyone tried the 2.6.11 kernel?03:36
Abijahhmmm03:36
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Abijahbut it still wont let me log in as root03:36
Seveaskeep it cool people :)03:36
thoreauputicDaVe^_^: don't. it has issues03:36
DaVe^_^ah i c03:36
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Abijahi'm try to make a new partition on the drive03:37
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Hajuuok so uhm03:37
Hajuuim trying to connect to a windows server03:37
action09as many ... :)03:38
tahorgvortex: read only for me too. dunno how to get write accesse03:38
Hajuuopenvpn --remote host 220.235.47.242 --client --auth-user-pass --dev ppp003:38
tahorg-e03:38
HajuuThats what ive got03:38
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HajuuBut it says I need a CA file or something03:38
Hajuu:/03:38
tahorg--dev ppp0 ?03:38
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Hajuuyeah03:39
Hajuuuse ppp003:39
tahorgHajuu: what's the server protocol ?03:39
Hajuu(my modem connection)03:39
Hajuuuhm03:39
Hajuuno idea03:39
Hajuuwhatever windows uses03:39
tahorgthen I don't know03:39
tahorggood luck03:39
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vortexif i open gedit as root i cant see the place ^03:40
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Hajuulol03:40
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Hajuuok what about setting up a server?03:40
Hajuucan you help with that?03:40
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Hajuu(a vpn server)03:41
HajuuI have pptpd03:41
DaVe^_^does anyone have issues with firefox lagging in 32bit hoary?03:41
DaVe^_^freezing up the system03:41
Hajuunope03:42
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Abijahwhy can't i unable to open "fdisk /dev/hda" ?03:42
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Hajuutry sudo fdisk /dev/hda03:43
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truz24what would be causing the hald daemon to take a constant 15-30 % cpu usage03:43
truz24then when i reboot it is fine03:43
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Abijahnice03:43
Abijahthanks03:43
DaVe^_^does anyone know how to make the physical eject button work03:43
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stazzDaVe^_^: you have to unmount the medium first03:45
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DaVe^_^no i mean pressing the button on the actual drive03:45
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Necromancerif you first umount then it should work03:46
DaVe^_^ah okay, theres no way to automate this is there?03:46
Hajuunope03:47
Necromancerno...for good reason :)03:47
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Necromanceror at least I dont know a way :)03:47
DaVe^_^u happen to use cedega by any chance?03:47
HajuuI do.03:48
DaVe^_^do u have warcraft working?03:48
DaVe^_^or tried03:49
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Hajuuwarcraft 3?03:49
DaVe^_^tft03:49
Hajuuyeah03:49
HajuuNo problems at all.03:49
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DaVe^_^u didnt have a nocd problem?03:49
Hajuuoh03:49
DaVe^_^are u on 32bit hoary03:49
Hajuuyou may need a nocd crack03:49
Hajuu(I did)03:49
DaVe^_^does it work on bnet?03:49
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Hajuuuhm03:50
Hajuuit should03:50
Hajuuso long as you have a valid cd key03:51
stazzDaVe^_^: you can try unmounting the drive from your desktop03:51
Hajuubut to make sure03:51
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stazzDaVe^_^: or ejecting it from there, the linux kernel locks the cd-drive when the medium is mounted03:51
Hajuusearch for a bnet crack03:51
Hajuuthere are some around.03:51
DaVe^_^have u got a working one on u?03:51
DaVe^_^ive tried a few already03:51
DaVe^_^stazz: would a mount -a work03:51
stazzDaVe^_^: no, example, umount /mnt/cdrom03:54
xiaogilIs there a counter tool somewhere  ?in Ubuntu03:54
thoreauputicDoes anyone know how the heck you open hidden files with the gnome file finder dialogue? It's irritating as hell trying for instance to open "~/.fluxbox/menu" in gedit...03:54
stazzDaVe^_^: but it's media, so umount /media/cdrom03:54
DaVe^_^uhm.. so what happens when it asks me for the cd?03:54
DaVe^_^i just shove it back in?03:54
thoreauputicI know you can open the file from the CLI but really...03:54
stazzthoreauputic: view -> show hidden files03:54
stazzthoreauputic: or then enter /.fluxbox/ on the location03:55
thoreauputicstazz: that's in nautilus - I mean the "open with dialogue"03:55
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stazzthoreauputic: right click - show hidden files03:55
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kemalbook03:56
thoreauputicstazz: aha - in the file area - thanks: that's so *not* intuitive...03:56
stazzthoreauputic: well, it was pretty obvious if one asks me :P03:57
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thoreauputicstazz: there should be a button for it IMO - but whatever - i usually use a CLI editor anyway...03:58
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thoreauputicstazz: even old apps like emelfm handle that better03:59
stazzthoreauputic: well, go tell that to the gtk team :)03:59
thoreauputicstazz: good idea03:59
thoreauputicso much for HIG03:59
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Abijahis it possible to mount a windows drive and use the windows OS from the linux OS?03:59
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stazzAbijah: well, it'd be possible to run windows inside bochs/vmware04:00
chillywillyI think you guys should just start shipping CDs all over the place like AOL04:00
chillywilly;)04:00
stazzAbijah: but that's not really a very good idea anyway.04:00
chillywillyspam people with Ubuntu CDs in the mail04:00
thoreauputicchillywilly: ah, funny you should mention that- what a great idea! *grin*04:01
chillywilly:)04:01
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r3d0xXuSlo04:04
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r3d0xXuScthulfuego there?04:04
r3d0xXuShmm /04:05
r3d0xXuS:/04:05
r3d0xXuSdo anyone know how install nvidia driver ?!04:05
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anto9usAbijah: qemu may be a good option04:06
r3d0xXuSzyth?04:06
Abijahqemu?04:07
Abijahwhat is it, where can i get it?04:07
r3d0xXuShello!? do someone has experience with nvidia graphic card driver how to install?!04:07
anto9usAbijah: see http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/ and it's in the repositories04:07
Abijahok\04:07
Abijahthanks04:07
r3d0xXuS...04:09
delirer3d0xXuS: see the howto04:09
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r3d0xXuSi dod04:11
r3d0xXuSi did04:11
r3d0xXuSbut didnt worked04:11
r3d0xXuSonly errors04:11
r3d0xXuSso i tried otherway04:11
r3d0xXuSonly ectract the file in a new directory04:12
r3d0xXuSso i did that so there is a lot of files04:12
r3d0xXuSso i dunno which ohne what i do can04:12
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why-oh-whyPlease can somebody check this code for me, I can't figure out the difference between line 12 and line 14  http://tinyurl.com/34gqy   It's urgent - I can';t tell if the two lines read the same or if there is a small punctuation difference - my eyes are boggling!04:12
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underdogwhy-oh-why: increase the font size?04:13
why-oh-whytried that underdog04:13
skorano04:13
underdogpaste it here...04:13
skoraits goatse04:13
skoranice try04:14
DaVe^_^lol04:14
why-oh-whyhehe04:14
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DaVe^_^sure mate04:14
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skorauhh..i saw that it redirected to that mirror.04:15
why-oh-whyu clicked on it didn't u04:15
skorai checked out what the redirect was.04:15
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r3d0xXuS...04:16
r3d0xXuSgreat04:16
r3d0xXuSnoone helps me04:16
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why-oh-whylol r3d0xXuS04:16
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DaVe^_^neone got a nocd for war3tft? cant find one that works with bnet04:17
why-oh-whyyes DaVe^_^04:17
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r3d0xXuShmm04:18
T6DaVe^_^, buy the game and get cedega04:18
DaVe^_^i have the game04:18
r3d0xXuSwhat is the command for mknod?04:18
DaVe^_^and i got cedega04:18
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DaVe^_^and it gives me an annoying no cd error04:18
r3d0xXuS................04:19
r3d0xXuSi love that04:19
r3d0xXuSnoone ...04:19
r3d0xXuSits useles04:19
r3d0xXuS..04:19
DaVe^_^why-oh-why can u gimme the link?04:19
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DaVe^_^damnit stupid winex04:19
rubernhello everyone04:19
r3d0xXuShi...04:19
skorar3d0xXuS, well, being a bit more patient may help, as well as posting in the forum.04:19
DaVe^_^wth does cedega charge for something that doesnt work04:19
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r3d0xXuSrubern: r u experienced use from ubuntu ? :o04:20
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r3d0xXuSuser*04:20
skorahowdy rubern04:20
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rubernr3d0xXus reasonably ....04:20
rubernskora : howdy mate04:21
pregoHi!. I'm getting lots of failed attemps of login into my machine via ssh. Is there a way in ssh server to ignore requests for a day time when one IP has failed lets say ten times connecting into the machine?04:21
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r3d0xXuSrubern: i have problem with nvidia graphiccard :x04:21
rubernr3d0xXus : Im not up to devices yet my friend04:21
r3d0xXuSk :x04:21
rubernyour blah.conf i can help04:22
pregoFailed logins from these:  root/password from xx.xxx.xx.xxx: 577 time(s04:22
ruberni dont have any other graphics card other than intel intergrated04:22
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rubernprego : perhaps the global config file would say something04:23
rubernprego : ive never used SSH so im not sure04:23
Abijahdoes wine work good?04:23
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pregoAbijah: it does quite well during meals ;-P04:23
Abijahlol04:23
rubernnot sure04:24
rubernhavent had any time to try it04:24
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r3d0xXuSjesus04:25
r3d0xXuSpleas e04:25
r3d0xXuS..04:25
nJessi have a serious problem04:25
rubernnjess : what is it?04:25
nJessi upgraded to hoary, but some of the warty config files are still thre, and i need to know how to replace them with the hoary config files04:25
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|Ivanch0|hi someone can try to enter in www.billarnet.com and click in one notice? i can enter in any and in explorer y do it perfectly04:26
kemal#istanbul04:26
|Ivanch0|i cant04:26
|Ivanch0|any idea?04:27
rubernwhat config files are they?04:27
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nJessuhmmm04:27
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nJessany that would have been changes04:27
Abijahis there a wine package in the ubuntu installation?04:27
nJesschanged*04:27
rubernyour apt sources?04:27
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rubernhow did you upgrade?04:28
nJessthey are whatever is in the original file, with the comment tags removed04:28
pregonJess: check "residual configuration" packages, at synaptic; also check "packages with debconf" which are the ones that can be reconfigured, AFAIK04:29
rubernwhat AFAIK prego?04:29
rubernive heard AFK04:29
pregoAs Far As I Know04:29
rubernnJess : I just did a fresh install of hoary so i dont know how warty looked like04:30
rubernprego : illuminating04:30
skoraAbijah, yes there is04:30
skorayou can use apt-get to get it04:30
nJessprego, i don't see it04:30
pregoAbijah: besides, backports has probaly a more recent version of wine04:30
pregonJess, let me see, wait a bit, please04:31
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Abijahhow do u use and find it?04:31
pregonJess: synaptic->Custom->Pkg with Debconf04:32
pregonJess: synaptic->Custom->Local or obsolete04:32
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pregonJess: synaptic->State->Uninstalled(residual configuration)04:33
wiegehts*hello*04:33
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pregonJess: I'm actually translating the names so actual labels may be a bit different04:34
andreai got a serious prob with my keyb,  its taking along time  to display the char, pc speaker  emmits a clicking sound before each click04:36
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pregoandrea: check preferences->keyboard settings, disable sound click if enabled04:37
wiegehtsclicking sound has to be annoying04:38
wiegehtsi cant even imagine a reason for such an annoyance04:38
spiderwormhi all, i added my personal bin directory to my path in kde so that i could quickly execute my own scripts, it works in konsole (kde) but not in gnome terminal, what the hell?  does the gnome terminal not read .bash_profile ?04:39
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andreano idea how it came04:39
pregospiderworm: enable login shell option at your gnome-terminal profile04:40
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pregospiderworm: preferences.04:40
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pregospiderworm: and then, gnome-terminal will source .bash_*04:40
spiderwormrun command as a login shell, aha!  thanx04:41
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chaitatprego, thanks a lot04:41
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spiderwormprego, thank you, and i just wanted to let you know that i like your spaghetti sauce04:41
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pregospiderworm: gnome-terminal "thinks" your profile has been already setup by your X11 session, so it does not enable login shell by default04:41
pregospiderworm: he, he, not italian despite the nick ;-P04:42
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spiderworm:D it works04:42
pregospiderworm: that needs to be done at each profile (in case you use many of them)04:43
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spiderwormnah, i dont, this is perfect, thanx.  what would the use be of having multiple profiles, btw?04:44
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pregospiderworm: I use multiple profiles, so I can have white terminals, blue terminals, transparent terminals, ..., depending on the task you are doing on each of them.04:44
nJessprego, i see none of it04:45
nJessbut hey04:45
pregospiderworm: a profile at the end is "a kind of" terminal in terms mostly of appearance04:45
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nJessi don't have much data04:45
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nJessi'll just re-install warty and wait for my hoary CDs to come04:45
klaymwhat's the easiest way to setup a bluetooth connection between my computer (usb dongle) and Nokia 6600?04:45
pregonJess: :-((04:45
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nJessprego04:45
nJessi know thats saad04:45
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nJesstook me 18 hours to upgrade the first time04:45
ooberhaxxorhi everyone04:45
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ooberhaxxorim using ubuntu for the first time04:46
greeboooberhaxxor, yay! :)04:46
rubernhello ooberhaxxor04:46
pregonJess, you don't have broadband, do you?04:46
jgbhow do i make synaptic install transcode when it complains about libmagick5.5.7 when version 6 is installed?04:46
ooberhaxxorduring install it didnt ask me for root PW but i need a PW now to run as root.. is there a default PW or can i change it?04:46
klaymwhat's the easiest way to setup a bluetooth connection between my computer (usb dongle) and Nokia 6600? which programs should I apt-get?04:46
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bob2jgb: you can't, that's not how dependencies work04:47
nJessprego, i do, but it has a weird cap04:47
pregoooberhaxxor: by default, the first account you create has sudo access04:47
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bob2ooberhaxxor: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo04:47
bob2ooberhaxxor: it explains that to you during the insall, btw04:47
nJessthey throttle me after i exceed 100 megs in any 4 hour period04:47
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rubernbob2 : I really dint see that one04:47
jgbaaaaaarg. how do i install transcode then?04:47
pregonJess: that is NOT broadband, that is "I will make you crazy"-band04:47
DeathWinghey guys, anyone knows how to configure an a4tech webcam on hoary04:48
nJessindeed04:48
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nJessactually, if you do the math04:48
bob2ooberhaxxor: please don't /msg people04:48
nJessyou can transfer the same ammount of data per month on broadband04:48
nJesser04:49
nJessdialup04:49
bob2ooberhaxxor: instead of asking for an explanation of sudo in general, why dont' you explain to use what you're trying to do?04:49
pregonJess: that is horrible. You cannot do heavy upgrades at all.04:49
nJessi know04:49
nJessim going to try to install KDE now04:49
nJessits not fixing the problem04:49
skoramaybe it's for questionable activities....^_^04:49
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ooberhaxxori downloaded a .tar icon theme file and to untar it i need priveledges04:49
nJessbut my hope is that it will act as a bandaid untill i get my pressed CD04:49
bob2ooberhaxxor: no, you don't04:49
ooberhaxxorit says i do04:50
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ooberhaxxori must be doing it wrong04:50
bob2prego: the only time you'll get more than 100MB of new packages on a stable release is right after a new release04:50
bob2ooberhaxxor: what are you trying to do?04:50
pregonJess I gess your upgrade provess from Warty to Hoary got interrupted many times...04:50
DeathWingwonder if any of u guys have a working a4tech webcam on hoary04:50
nJessprego04:51
pregobob2: the problem is that this guy upgraded from warty to hoary...04:51
nJessi typed N to config file changes04:51
nJessi've come to realize this04:51
nJesson windows, say no04:51
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nJessin linux04:51
ooberhaxxorbob2, i am trying to untar the icons for use in gnome04:51
nJesssay yes04:51
bob2prego: let it run for a couple of days04:51
bob2ooberhaxxor: I'm pretty sure you can do that through the gui, as a normal user04:51
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pregonJess: you may also try dpkg-reconfigure04:51
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ooberhaxxori will try again thank you04:51
nJess...04:52
nJessTHANK YOU!!!04:52
bob2ooberhaxxor: try dragging it onto the theme manager thing in gnome04:52
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pregonJess: dkpg-reconfigure --all04:52
bob2pretty sure that doesn't do anything04:52
ooberhaxxorkk brb04:52
bob2and it certainly doesn't reprompt you about package config file updates04:52
why-oh-whyPlease can somebody check this code for me, I can't figure out the difference between line 12 and line 14  http://tinyurl.com/34gqy   It's urgent - I can';t tell if the two lines read the same or if there is a small punctuation difference - my eyes are boggling!04:52
spiralhi04:52
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nJessyeah, did nothing04:53
nJesswait04:53
nJesstyped it wrong04:53
nJessheh04:53
thoreauputicwhy-oh-why: you really think we'll fall for the old goatse trick?04:53
anto9uswhy-oh-why: please don't do that04:53
pregonJess: actually don't forget the sudo04:54
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nJessi got the sudo04:54
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nJess:)04:54
rubernwhats a goatse?04:54
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pregonJess: sudo dpkg-reconfigure --all04:54
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nJessheh04:54
pregorubern: yeah, there is still innocent people arround the internet....04:54
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squinnbob2, heh04:54
nJessi've learned more about linux from ubuntu than i ever did with slackware, debian, RH or FC04:54
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nJesseverywhere else people were like RTFM04:55
bob2ubuntu's a nice gentle introduction04:55
caonexi am a bit confused with the new installation of the jre, the 1.5 v 3. It used to install everything and even ask me for the target java directory, but this bin file just uncompresses and i also have to copy the netscape plugin manually. How do i get jre to install in the system so i can run local java based programs, since right now all i have is the plugin?04:55
squinnbob2, it's also a nice intermediate linux04:55
squinni mean, i was using gentoo and came to ubuntu04:55
squinnit's stable unstable, and it's wunderbar04:55
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pregonJess: I've had many positive experiences with RH and Ximian Desktop people.04:55
nJessi got upset at ubntu04:55
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thoreauputicsquinn: you can do basically anything on ubuntu that you can in Debian04:56
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bob2oh, sure, it's great for advanced people, too, but it's 'specially good for starting out04:56
peppohas anyone here tried the Agnula packages on top of Ubuntu?04:56
squinnoh yeah04:56
squinnI've got to try to get into doc meeting tonight, as I was a contributer to #gentoo-doc as well04:56
nJessi couldn't install UT2k4 in ubuntu because for that its better to have root at the gui04:57
nJessand i couldn't figure out how to enable it04:57
nJess:\04:57
KarlosIInJess, root terminal?04:57
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nJessno, i had to set a root password04:57
bob2nJess: it's not "better" in any way04:57
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nJessand enable root through GDM04:57
bob2nJess: you don't need to set a root password to install a game04:57
thoreauputicnJess: any program that requires root GUI is fundamentally b0rked04:58
nJessheh04:58
nJessit still didn't work04:58
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KarlosIIthoreauputic, agreed04:58
bob2nJess: run it with sudo from your regular terminal04:58
nJesswell04:58
nJessit IS borked04:58
KarlosIIuh no...04:58
alxwindis there anyway to activate/deactivate eth0 besides running command "ifup/ifdown"?04:58
pregonJess: do play enemy territory ;-P04:58
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KarlosIII have no probs installing it as user04:58
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bob2alxwind: why do you want another method?04:58
pregoalxwind: yeah, there is a nice GUI at the system administration menu04:58
alxwindi can't start my Firestarter, it says that eth0 is not ready04:59
KarlosIIalthough I haven't install it on a ubuntu systemyet04:59
nJesswell, i have a windows box dedicated to games, and my ubuntu box has an ATI RAGE IIc04:59
pregoalxwind: but is it ready?04:59
alxwind2prego where?04:59
bob2alxwind: are your network settings correct?04:59
nJessso games cept freeciv are not happening04:59
alxwindyes it is04:59
alxwindi hope there are correct04:59
alxwindcuz i'm on the internet05:00
pregoalxwind: at the system administration menu, network devices entry05:00
KarlosIIsheesh tell us the bloody error and problem and maybe we can help05:00
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pregoalxwind: it shows a list of current devices and you can enable or disable each one. I prefer the ifup method, btw.05:00
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pregonJess: are you reconfiguring the packages??05:01
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nJessye05:01
nJesss05:01
pregosweet05:01
JDigitalHas anyone here who uses nvidia graphics drivers from the nvidia website, upgraded Warty to Hoary?05:01
nJessstill gonna install kde though05:01
nJessthats the one gripe i have with ubuntu, i prefer KDE over gnome05:01
HiddenWolfnjess, install kubuntu instead05:02
pregonJess: you have the kubuntu packages within hoary now :-))05:02
nJessreally...05:02
pregoHiddenWolf: he has not the CDs05:02
JDigitalAnyone?05:02
nJesss/he/she05:02
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geneo93nJess:  kubuntu works fine05:02
pregonJess: sorry05:02
parabolizeJDigital, reinstall the nvidia driver ever time you update you linux kernel05:02
JDigitalok05:02
nJessyes, but i can't install kubuntu...05:03
parabolize*every05:03
nJessbad internet and all05:03
JDigitalI would be worried about the system messing up and preventing me from getting the driver05:03
nJessprego, apt-get says i still need like...200megs of packages for kde still05:03
pregonJess: you have the kubuntu-desktop package that will download all the packages. Unfortunatelly I guess that might be more than 100Mb05:03
JDigitallike if nvidia driver breaks I will have no graphics capability05:03
pregonJess: you are right05:03
JDigitalthus cannot load up firefox05:03
thoreauputicnJess: how bad? i installed kubuntu-desktop on dilaup...05:03
JDigitalthus cannot get the driver05:03
JDigitalcatch 2205:03
bob2sproingie: er, it appears to be 4.505:04
nJessthoreauputic, every 100megs i download my connection goes into a 4 hour reset05:04
sproingieis there a way i can add an experimental or nonofficial repository to sources.list but NEVER install anything from it unless i say so explicitly?05:04
parabolizeJDigital, use wget or links05:04
bob2sproingie: with a soname of 305:04
JDigitalah05:04
pregothoreauputic: they kick her if downloads more than 100Mb in 4 hours :-((05:04
pregonJess: do try to download KDE in parts05:04
thoreauputicnJess: prego, that's cruela nd unnatural05:04
geneo93nJess:  i have 14400 connection and downloaded kubuntu and burned it05:04
JDigitalwhat's the advantage of upgrading to hoary then05:04
thoreauputicnJess: get a better ISP...05:04
pregonJess: begin with qT libraries, then try with kde-libs, ....05:04
nJessi plan on it05:05
sproingiebob2: ah.  it still calls itself pcre3 as well.  there's the package version tho ... how strange05:05
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pregonJess: sort of iterating process05:05
JDigitalwill it fix my problem that I can't get ssh to log into anywhere?05:05
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nJessprego, apt-get will recover broken packages05:05
parabolizeJDigital, dont know05:05
JDigitaloh05:05
nJessso all i have to do is close the terminal when i want it to stop05:05
bob2sproingie: er, the package name is pcre3 because the soname is 305:05
nJessand i can resume from where i left off05:05
pregonJess: of course, but you can install some packages < 100Mb...05:05
thoreauputicnJess: you can interrupt apt-get and it will pick up where it left off05:06
pregonJess: you will have to iterate with apt-get and the KDE-like packages05:06
alxwind2prego and all: actually this method ain't work either05:06
alxwindi mean the gui at administration05:06
pregoalxwind: why not?05:06
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thoreauputicnJess: I just repeated the sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop command05:06
sproingiebob2: i guess they must change the pcre-specific api each soname revision.  wonder why they changed the major version.  thanks :)05:06
pregonJess: I guess that thoreauputic is right.05:07
nJessthoreauputic, i know05:07
nJessthats what i did for hoary05:07
alxwindwell, i guess it's because at their properties it says that it's DHCP configured05:07
sproingieany tutorials on "advanced apt" out there, that cover stuff like pinning and priorities?05:07
alxwindbut i connect to the internet through RP-PPPoe client05:07
bob2sproingie: man apt_preferences05:07
thoreauputicnJess: here, kubuntu-desktop required about 110 MB, from memory05:07
bob2that should explain what you want to do05:08
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sproingiei want to add some experimental repos, but not actually use them unless i say so05:08
nJessyou know whats a great irony?05:08
sproingiebob2: thanks05:08
JDigitalokay, time to upgrade05:08
pregonJess: you have just recieved the CDs05:08
nJessi spent $300 usd on the sound system for my windows machine05:08
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JDigitalat worst I'll mess everything up and go back to using a pirate copy of windows 200005:08
docwariohi all05:08
alxwindwhat should i do?05:08
nJessbut my music sounds better comming out of a cheap soundblaster and two cheap speakers through xmms05:09
nJess:\05:09
bretzelHi there05:09
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alxwindspynet.ru?05:09
GNULinuxerhow can I upgrade to Breezy from Hoary?05:09
DaVe^_^is it wise to update kernel to 2.6.10-7 using synaptic? or can this break my install05:09
docwariois there someone who can tell me where is the config file who load all the module at boot ? except the /etc/modules file05:09
bob2GNULinuxer: please don't05:09
parabolizeGNULinuxer, dont05:09
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GNULinuxerbob2, okay05:09
bob2docwario: that's the config file.  maybe hotplug is loading it05:09
thoreauputicGNULinuxer: read the /topic first at least05:09
Voxelyopyop05:09
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docwariocan it be the initrd ?05:10
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GNULinuxerbob2, but just curious ... is it done by changing repos ?05:10
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bob2GNULinuxer: it's done by reconfigure apt, yes05:10
sproingieughchatzilla is aving problems05:10
sproingiedroppikey05:11
sproingiedropping keypresses05:11
sproingiewow05:11
Voxelhello05:11
nJessi had a problem where chatzilla would send every keypress as its own line05:11
sproingiethat had to piss the channel off05:11
yccheokhi, may i noe is there any microsoft equivalent exchange server in linux?05:11
pregoalxwind: you have an ethernet adapter which is enabled via dhcp and then you connect to interrnet via pppoe?05:12
sproingieyccheok: novell groupwise05:12
alxwindyes, i do05:12
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trog_anyone have any idea where i can get zlib-dev - cant find it on google or with apt-get etc..05:12
bob2yccheok: depends which bits you care about05:12
bob2trog_: zlib0g-dev05:12
alxwindand Firestarter says that eth0 is not ready05:12
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trog_thx05:12
sproingietrog_: libzlib05:13
bob2(the 0g is because it hasn't changed in a bajillion years)05:13
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sproingieoh, everything ELSE says libzlib, the lib itself ...05:13
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sproingiethere needs to be a mass cleanup of namings in apt05:13
pregoalxwind: but you see eth0 at the output from ifconfig, don't you?05:13
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nJessheh05:14
nJesstoday is just amazing05:14
gizbanhow do I change the date display method?  Right now it's dd/mm/YY, I want to make it YYYY-mm-dd.05:14
bob2sproingie: it's "naming's in apt", it's "Debian package names"05:14
nJessi got fired, and my computer broke05:14
nJesswonderful05:14
bob2and gratuituous renaming is highly disruptive05:14
DaVe^_^can someone tell me is it safe to update my kernel from 386 to 686 using synaptic/apt?05:14
pregogizban: just choose the right locale05:14
bob2docwario: yes05:14
bob2er, DaVe^_^05:14
pregoDaVe^_^: you have a 686 cpu?05:15
gizbanhow do I choose the local? (after I've already installed)05:15
sproingieok, me and chatzilla are through05:15
DaVe^_^i did uname -m and it said i68605:15
sproingieit used to work fine05:15
bob2sproingie: basically everything is libfooN, where N is the soname...zlib is an exception, since it hasn't changed sonames in like 10 years05:15
pregogizban: select it from GDM languaje options at log in05:15
nJessP4 and Athlon XP are i68605:15
DaVe^_^i got an amd6405:15
nJessP3 MIGHT be05:15
gizbanprego: thanks05:15
sproingiebob2: i'm thinking of some packages named *-dev, others with *-devel05:15
DaVe^_^anyone have a clue?05:16
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pregoDaVe^_^: there is special ubuntu version for AMD6405:16
bob2sproingie: again, legacy.  I can't think of anything current named like that.05:16
JDigitalso how do I upgrade without breaking things05:16
JDigitalis there an "upgrade" guide05:16
DaVe^_^i dont want to use 64bit05:17
DaVe^_^too much software tweaking05:17
pregoDaVe^_^: by the way, i've upgraded many times the kernel with synaptic and no problems arised (I had to reboot to use the new kernel, of course)05:17
JDigitalUbuntu is worthless if it is undocumented05:17
JDigitalI am going to change everything in synaptic to say "hoary" instead of "warty"05:17
DaVe^_^did u upgrade a new version or diff cpu05:17
thoreauputicJDigital: stick with ubuntu repositories, and upgrade using the package manager05:17
JDigitalthen upgrade all05:18
JDigitalwith smart upgrade05:18
bob2JDigital: no, it's not "worthless", don't be silly05:18
JDigitaland hope it works05:18
bob2JDigital: wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryUpgradeNotes05:18
pregoJDigital: there is specific documentation at the ubuntu web site for upgrading05:18
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JDigitalprego: link pls05:18
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tweekhello05:18
pregoJDigital: see bob2 comment ;-)05:18
tweeki get rsa and dsa host key errors when trying to start sshd, am i doing anything wrong? :|05:19
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DaVe^_^alrite im going to reboot05:19
bob2tweek: you installed it from the packages, right?05:19
DaVe^_^see if my system dies05:19
DaVe^_^brb05:19
JDigitaldoes it need a lot of free space or anything05:19
yourghetek!seen kassetra05:19
thoreauputictweek: probably05:19
ubotukassetra <~kassetra@c-67-171-201-213.hsd1.or.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 2d 9h 42m 44s ago, saying: 'ds installs just fine, and both are runnign.'.05:19
tweekyes bob205:19
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JDigitalI only have 600MB free on root05:19
tahorgJDigital: sudo apt-get clean05:19
pregoJDigital: not enough I would say05:19
tahorg;)05:19
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JDigitalstill only 60005:19
bob2JDigital: probably not enough, then, unless you get temporary packages put elsewhere05:20
JDigital:/05:20
bob2tweek: I don't know how you could get that error, then05:20
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thoreauputicJDigital: if you run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade it will tell you how much space it needs05:20
tweek:\05:20
pregoJDigital: you need to download about 600Mb and install afterwards, so I guess it is not enough.05:20
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sproingiei'm such a dunce05:20
bob2tweek: try "sudo dpkg -P --force-depends openssh-server ; sudo apt-get install openssh-server"05:20
sproingieit wasn't chatzilla05:20
sproingieit was the batteries in my wireless keyboard05:20
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unbuntuN00bhow do I mount my hd's in ubutnu?05:21
JDigitalNeed to get 620MB of archives.05:21
JDigitalAfter unpacking 263MB of additional disk space will be used.05:21
pregosproingie: 8-?05:21
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pregosproingie: I hate that wireless keyboards and mice...05:21
thoreauputicJDigital: not enough space to cache 620MB, I guess05:21
sproingieprego: i was starting to think there was a global problem with X or KDE or something.  damn wireless keyboard05:21
nJessi have wireless everything.....05:21
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tweekbob2 i'm on an older version of ubuntu if that makes any difference :|05:21
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sproingieprego: well the keyboard hates batteries, i change 'em maybe twice a year.  the mouse eats 'em as light snacks05:22
bob2tweek: no, ssh still works there05:22
nJessnah05:22
nJessAMD has dual core05:22
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nJessno need to hyperthreading05:22
tweekwell, those packages arn't in the repositories05:22
pregosproingie: you are right05:22
bob2tweek: then "sudo dpkg -P ssh ; sudo apt-get install ssh"05:22
sproingieprobably because the mouse has to transmit a lot more05:22
pregosproingie: then you realize when the mouse has no batteries but you don't remeber that for keyboard :-P05:22
nJessthe mouse runs a laser yes?05:22
unbuntuN00bcan some one please help?:D how do i mount drives in ubuntu?05:23
sproingienaw, it's an older mouse.  LED05:23
sproingiethe laser mice probably eat a pair of batteries a day05:23
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bob2unbuntuN00b: www.ubuntuguide.org explains how05:23
JDigitalI moved some stuff and now have 921mb05:23
JDigitalshould be enough05:23
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pregosproingie: I would loose the mouse if it was wireless by the way.05:23
unbuntuN00bk thx05:23
tweekalright bob2 same error05:23
nJessMx700 for the win05:24
bob2tweek: paste the full error to #flood05:24
pregosproingie: then it woud happen to appear when the pants were to be thrown to the washer machine05:24
tweekok05:24
bob2tweek: and your /etc/apt/sources.list05:24
sproingieprego: my desk has a dedicated pad for the mouse.  otherwise i would probably lose it too05:24
nJessi have a rechargable wireless05:24
nJessits usually on the cradle05:24
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nJessi hate wireless networking05:25
pregonJess: and the mouse battery has no "memory"?05:25
nJessi can't find my laptop05:25
nJess:\05:25
JDigitalinstalling05:25
tweekok bob205:25
pregoJDigital: good luck05:25
nJessprego, i got the mouse my freshman year in highschool05:25
sproingieoh well, long as konversation doesn't keep krashing this time05:25
nJessand the original battery still holds charge05:25
bob2tweek: run "sudo dpkg -P ssh ; sudo apt-get install ssh", and paste the entire output to #flood05:25
JDigitalhere's hoping it won't screw up and leave me unable to run in anything but 60Hz05:25
thoreauputicbob2: he doesn't appear to have main in his sources ?05:26
thoreauputiconly security?05:26
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tweekbob2 it doesn't error05:26
bob2thoreauputic: which suggests to me that he/she's not actually removing and reinstalling it05:26
pregoJDigital: nah! I even interrumped the upgrade and the system works rock solid. Don't do it anyway05:27
bob2tweek: please just paste it05:27
JDigitaldon't do what anyway05:27
nJesshey05:27
nJesshow do i format a drive?05:27
pregoJDigital: to stop the upgrade process at a random time.05:27
JDigitalheh, that's common sense05:28
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nJess/dev/hdb is ntfs05:28
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JDigitalstopping things mid-way is often a good way to break things05:28
nJessi want to format it ext305:28
bob2nJess: sudo mkfs -t ext3 /dev/blah05:28
pregoJDigital: i was upgrading remotely (X11 session that hunged because OpenGL+Nvidia+switch X11 session)....05:28
bob2nJess: make very very very very sure you pick the right value for blah05:28
JDigital:/05:28
pregonJess: you want to format a ntfs filesystem from ubuntu?05:29
sproingiei usually use a pointy clicky tool to format partitions05:29
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sproingiebecause i've typed it wrong before05:29
nJessnah, i want to turn an ntfs drive into an ext3 drive05:29
nJessbut i got it05:29
sproingieat least you can't reformat a mounted partition05:29
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nJessbob2, how do i set it to automount then?05:30
pregonJess: probably you shoud also change the partition type, I don't really know if that is necessary05:30
bob2nJess: then you add it to /etc/fstab05:30
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sproingieparted should handle formatting too05:30
tweekany ideas bob2?05:30
pregosproingie: I did even worse once, I transfered with dd a ramdisk (1.4) into my entire hard drive instead to my floppy drive... so I lost partition table, .....05:31
nJesshow do you unmount a drive?05:31
pregonJess: which kind of drive?05:31
bob2nJess: sudo umount /path/to/mountpoint/05:31
bob2tweek: I can't imagine how you could get that error05:32
pregooh wait sorry...05:32
bob2tweek: and it doesn't seem to be being printed there05:32
nJessokay05:32
nJesssomehow i really screwed up05:32
nJessi managed to mount two drives to /05:32
sproingieprego: i can do one better as stupid mistakes go.  i wanted to play with a uClibc gentoo distro in a chroot on this system ... so i untarred the gentoo stage1 tarball ... but forgot to chdir to the chroot05:32
bob2nJess: that's fine05:33
sproingieprego: guess what dir i untarred it in05:33
thoreauputictweek: your apt sources are clearly incomplete, anyway (don't know how you ended up with such a file)05:33
tweek:\05:33
bob2nJess: umount the most recently mounted one05:33
pregosproingie: "/"?05:33
nJessi can't05:33
bob2tweek: what command do you have to run to get the rsa error?05:33
tweek"sshd"05:33
sproingieprego: needless to say this is a reinstalled ubuntu i'm running05:33
bob2tweek: so, don't do that05:33
bob2tweek: ssh is running already05:33
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Seveastweakism_, you should not run sshd manually...05:33
bob2sproingie: if you want to stop it, sudo /etc/init.d/sshd stop05:33
bob2tweek: if you want to stop it, sudo /etc/init.d/sshd stop05:33
Seveastweek*05:33
pregosproingie: you had a gentubuntu at that moment05:33
bob2sproingie: not you, sorry05:34
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bob2tweek: to start it, sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start05:34
tweekbut my friend is going to help me via sshd05:34
tweekthanks bob205:34
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trygvebwHi05:34
trygvebwIs there anyway to install a package with apt-get even though another package not involved has unresolved dependencies?05:34
morpheusHello everybody05:34
sproingieprego: heehee :)05:34
thoreauputictweek: also, the ssh daemon is invoked with sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start etc (not sshd as user)05:34
bob2tweek: but you don't need to start it, ti's already running05:34
bob2tweek: no05:34
bob2bah05:34
bob2trygvebw: no05:34
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thoreauputicbob2: I think  sudo /etc/init.d/ssh is right rather than sshd?05:35
tweeksudo /etc/init.d/sshd start <--- this is why i was using "sshd"05:35
morpheushow can i start my X server automtically when i start my computer???05:35
trygvebwbob2: are you sure? :/ because i installed initng and it works fine but apt-get says a lot of stuff about wrong libc6 version installed :(05:35
alxwind2prego: sorry i was out for a moment05:35
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Seveasmorpheus, it should already do that05:35
bob2thoreauputic: er, right, my mistake05:35
Seveasmorpheus, if not, you have changed something :)05:35
alxwind 2but you see eth0 at the output from ifconfig, don't you? - i don't know05:35
morpheusnormally Seveas05:35
morpheusbut...05:35
bob2tweek: as thoreauputic says, it's ssh, not sshd there05:35
bob2trygvebw: so, "don't do that"05:35
morpheusOn debian net install Seveas05:35
morpheushow?05:35
pregotweek: don't use sshd directly, use the init script05:36
bob2trygvebw: the package may happen to work, mostly, but it really Depends on stuff for a reason05:36
thoreauputictweek: but as bob2 also says, you don't need to invoke the daemon bscause it runs anyway05:36
bob2morpheus: #debian05:36
Seveasmorpheus, update-rc.d gdm defaults05:36
tweekok05:36
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bob2morpheus: (hint: install the gdm package)05:36
Seveasor otherwise: #debian05:36
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trygvebwbob2: Well... The problem is, that it's a package for Debian. I've used it for many days and it works complely fine. The Ubuntu libc is compitable...05:36
bob2trygvebw: no, it's not, sorry05:36
sproingiecompatible MOSTLY05:36
bob2trygvebw: if you want that package on ubuntu, rebuild it from source05:36
trygvebwwell, mostly is all i need :)05:37
sproingieyou just discovered it ain't 100%05:37
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bob2it Depends on a more recent libc6 because it was built against a more recent one05:37
bob2and mgiht use more recent symbols, eyc05:37
trygvebwwell i say it works fine... so it's as compitable as i need it to be05:37
sproingielinux binaries ain't totally portable if they're dynamically linked05:37
sproingiehell thanks to glibc, sometimes even static isn't totally static05:37
sproingielibnss is dynamic ONLY05:37
trog_im going nuts (too late), cant find jpeglib, any suggestions besides ST*W? google is unproductive...05:38
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bob2trygvebw: so, if you want it to work, you'll need to rebuild it from source05:38
talamodyo :) has anyone had experience with Ubuntu + AGNULA?05:38
bob2trygvebw: libjpeg62-dev05:38
thoreauputictrog_: try apt-cache search libjpeg05:38
morpheusthanks bob2 and Seveas05:38
trog_kk thx05:38
bob2trog_: libjpeg62-dev05:38
bob2trog_: what are you compiling?05:38
trog_xawtv - for video broadcasting - linux toys book =] 05:39
bob2xawtv is in ubuntu already05:39
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thoreauputictrog_: it's in universe05:39
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guyI'm still kinda new, I can't install the fglrx drivers for my atiradeon 9000. I've followed every forum I could find, and have had to reload os twice. Can anyone help me?05:40
thoreauputic!repositories05:40
ubotuwell, repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto05:40
trog_i dont see it already installed ?  *shrug*05:40
thoreauputictrog_: see above05:40
bob2guy: er, are you sure firegl even works on a radeon 90000?05:40
bob2er, 9000.05:40
trog_i added all the repos i could05:40
bob2I'm 99% sure it doesn't05:40
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thoreauputictrog_: then you made a mistake05:40
pregoguys, it has been a funny talk. See you soon.05:40
bob2trog_: telling apt about repositories doesn't make it install things from there05:40
anto9ushow do I mount /media/sda1 and give write access to non-root users?05:41
trygvebwbob2: fglrx works fine with 900005:41
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thoreauputictrog_: apt-cache show xawtv shows up fine here05:41
trog_o05:41
trygvebwi'm not sure if you need a hack though05:41
trog_ok thx ill look now05:41
bob2my 9200 had Free accelerated 3d drivers05:41
sproingiei'd be surprised if 3d accel worked with fglrx on the 900005:41
sproingieconsidering it's not even the firegl core05:41
bob2me too05:41
trygvebwfiregl..?05:42
sproingieATI bought firegl and rebadged it as the R30005:42
bob2fglrx = firegl05:42
trygvebwoo05:42
bob2aiui05:42
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guyWell that explains my problem. Thanks for the help.05:42
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sproingiethey still sell a firegl card, but they're based on the same core now05:42
yahalomhow do i delete the contents of a dir?05:42
trygvebwhmm05:42
sproingieshame really.  always thought ati had the superior tech, but the drivers just ain't that hot05:43
bob2yahalom: rm /dir/*05:43
`psychohi ppl05:43
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`psychowhat does memtest86+ actually do?05:43
bob2I was pretty impressed by the 9200 drivers05:43
talamodcan anyone tell me if it's a REALLY bad idea to add apt sources that are intended for debian unstable into Ubuntu? I've added the agnula packages...05:43
sproingiestill, blender screams like a demon.  it's at least twice as fast on linux than win, so their drivers *are* improving05:43
`psychodoes it test the memory n all?05:43
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rob^talamod, yeah05:43
bob2`psycho: it hammers the hell out of your memory to try to find broken bits05:43
trygvebwtalamod: If you only install a few packages without forcing it should go ok05:43
trog_away05:43
talamodrob^, well that's a shame, perhaps I'll have to do a reinstall soon :)05:43
bob2talamod: it's a bad idea to do it if you don't watch what apt does very carefully05:44
sproingiecould be the 64-bitness as well, more registers used or something05:44
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talamodrob^, trygvebw, I needed Ardour. agnula also upgraded/changed libc6... so there could be some _really_ bad things happening soon :)05:44
yahalombob2, it wont work, because there is another dir in there. i want to delete everything in one dir without delete the sub dir.05:44
[koji] can anyone recommend a dvd verifier utility?05:44
trygvebwtalamod: oh05:44
`psychosp if my memory is faulty (as in hardware..) i can find it out like that?05:44
trygvebwyeah05:44
morpheushi!05:44
`psycho*so05:44
sproingiebut i can rotate and zoom with a whole extra level of subsurfs in blender on linux than on win05:44
bob2yahalom: then the command I gave you will work fine05:44
morpheushow can we do to use a microsoft wireless bluetooth mouse on ubuntu??05:44
bob2`psycho: yes05:44
thoreauputictalamod: ardour is in ubuntu05:44
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sproingieand this with the ATI drivers05:44
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yahalombob2, it didnt05:44
talamodthoreauputic, it is? d'oh!05:44
`psychobob2: thx05:44
trygvebwtalamod: most Debian packages are05:45
bob2yahalom: "didnt"? it will delete all the files in the dir, and leave the subdir alone.05:45
yahalombob2, ah ur right. sry05:45
rob^so tired.. time for sleep. night all05:45
morpheus????05:45
thoreauputictalamod: ardour-gtk - digital audio workstation (graphical gtk interface)05:46
talamodthoreauputic, ah, hm. so... is there a smart way to undo the packages installed from agnula?05:46
talamodI've uncommented their apt source entry, but it installed quite a few things.05:46
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talamodlike a dist-upgrade or something to make it reinstall the Ubuntu specific ones?05:47
kestasis there any way to get sound in esd when its only supposed to play to alsa/oss?05:47
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thoreauputictalamod: you can try `sudo apt-get -f install `05:47
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talamodtalamod, does nothing... not even for libc605:47
thoreauputictalamod: assuming you've fic=xed your sources...05:47
bob2kestas: esddsp05:47
milkyi need help giving read permission to mounted ntfs partition:root@car:/home/tinc # chmod a+r /mnt/win05:48
milkychmod: changing permissions of `/mnt/win': Read-only file system05:48
kestasbob2: Im not getting any hits in synaptic for esddsp05:48
thoreauputictalamod: purrge the offending packages and start again05:48
bob2kestas: packages.ubuntu.com05:48
bob2(esound-common, iirc)05:48
phendhi all, this is a bit ot. but i'm moving my blog from word press to nucleus. is it possible to import the old entries?05:48
bob2milky: that won't help, you can't set permissions on a vfat filesystem05:48
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milkywhy05:49
bob2milky: use the umask=002 mount option in /etc/fstab05:49
thoreauputictalamod: don't purge libc6 obviously...05:49
talamodthoreauputic, dpkg --purge for the other packages, but how to re-install Ubuntu's libc6?05:49
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thoreauputictalamod: that I don't know - maybe bob2 will05:50
anto9ussudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 -o rw - doesn't give me write permissions, any ideas?05:50
talamodhm. getting dependency problems already. adding agnula was a big mistake :S05:50
thoreauputictalamod: changing libc6 is kind of... non-trivial I would think05:50
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kestasbob2: esound-common is already installe05:50
kestasd05:50
kestasbut I dont have esddsp05:50
bob2sudo apt-get install libc6=2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu1305:50
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bob2kestas: look it up on packages.ubuntu.com, I guess05:51
talamodbob2, excellent!" thanks man05:51
kestasbob2: esddsp doesnt come up in packages.ubuntu.com either05:51
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swarmI'm having a problem at boot ("Cannot access Hardware Clock with any know method") over Ubuntu Hoary (Kernel 2.6.11-1-amd64-k8-smp). I have seen there is a bug report on Ubuntu's bugzilla (https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1659 [Created 2004-10-17 20:21 UTC] ) but it's still with status NEW.05:52
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bob2kestas: bah, yes it does05:52
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bob2kestas: esound-clients05:52
kestasah esound-clients05:52
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nJessswarn, i have the same problem with amd64 ubuntu on my laptop05:52
thoreauputicswarm: 2.6.11 is bad news...05:52
nJessswam*05:52
swarmswarm05:52
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bionicCan anyone please help me with compiling a module for lufs?05:53
nJessheh05:53
nJessi suck05:53
swarmthoreauputic, it's the same with 2.6.10-505:53
thoreauputicnJess: swa <tab> ;)05:53
kestasI dont think package updating is working05:53
kestasthis is the firefox version I have: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.6) Gecko/20050512 Firefox/1.0 (Ubuntu package 1.0.2)05:53
bob2bionic: read the lufs-source packages README.Debian05:53
kestasis that the same as everyone else?05:53
nJessyeah thoreauputic i know05:53
bob2kestas: yes05:53
yahalomwhere is my .xsession located?05:53
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bob2kestas: hoary doesn't get random new pieces software05:53
thoreauputicnJess: OK :)05:53
bob2even if they are "OMG A NEW MINOR VERSION OF A WEB BROWSER"05:54
klaas_Hello there.05:54
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kestasbob2: yes but there have been security problems since the last time it updated firefox05:54
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kestasbob2: and dont act so condescending05:54
bob2kestas: yes, and hoary has those fixes05:54
klaas_Does anyone have any experience with tv-tuners?05:54
thoreauputicyahalom: in your home/yahalom dir - but you have to make one ;)05:54
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bob2kestas: they get backported to the version hoary released with05:54
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yahalomthoreauputic, thanx :)05:55
thoreauputicyahalom: why do you need one?05:55
kestasbob2: then why hasnt my version of firefox updated for months?05:55
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bob2kestas: I don't know, mine has05:55
swarmWhy such a common bug is yet in status NEW?05:55
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kestasbob2: could you just paste your version info from About Firefox just to ease my mind?05:55
thoreauputicyahalom: are you installing some odd widow manager? *g*05:55
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thoreauputic*window05:55
bob2swarm: because no one has looked at it yet?05:55
swarmit's assigned to lamont.jones05:55
bob2swarm: if it's a duplicate, it may be ignored while people do useful work05:55
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yahalomthoreauputic, wmii. know it?05:55
swarmbob2,  ok I check for similar bugs if any05:56
thoreauputicyahalom: never heard of it ! :D05:56
klaas_Anyone?05:56
bob2kestas: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.6) Gecko/20050512 Firefox/1.0 (Ubuntu package 1.0.2)05:56
kestascan someone please copy the info from Help>About Mozilla Firefox?05:56
kestashmm okay thanks bob205:56
thoreauputicyahalom: so yeah, you need to write a ~/.xsession ;)05:56
yahalomthoreauputic, its like a combo of ion and stuff. http://wmi.modprobe.de/05:56
yahalomthoreauputic, thanx man05:56
thoreauputicyahalom: OK thanks05:56
nJesswhats the bash command for reboot?05:57
klaas_reboot05:57
nJessim05:57
nJessan idiot05:57
Heart|shutdown -r now ?!05:57
thoreauputicnJess: sudo reboot funnily enough05:57
klaas_nJess, nope just new i quess?05:57
thoreauputicor shutdown -r now, yeah05:57
klaas_thoreauputic: That's right, ubuntu uses sudo..05:58
klaas_thoreauputic: Sorry.05:58
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bob2kestas: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2005-May/thread.html05:58
klaas_thoreauputic: Do you have experience with tv-tuner cards?05:58
yahalomthoreauputic, does this make sense for a .xsession entry. exec /usr/local/bin/wmii ?05:58
thoreauputicklaas_: no, sorry05:59
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thoreauputicyahalom: yes05:59
yahalomthoreauputic, seems enough?05:59
thoreauputicyahalom: although you don't really need the exec05:59
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thoreauputicyahalom: assuming the path is right, it should work05:59
yahalomthoreauputic, thanx man05:59
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Nightcr8wl3rare any of the creators/developers for Ubuntu around06:00
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anatoleis there a program like daemon tools for linux?06:00
timscan anyone tell me "learn-how-to-use-the keyboard" application?06:00
Nightcr8wl3rif so, just like to say that "ALL YOU GUYS ROCK"!!!06:01
thoreauputicNightcr8wl3r: nah, they ran away when they saw you join ;)06:01
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bob2anatole: which does...06:01
Nightcr8wl3rlol..very funny thoreauputic06:01
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timsim searching a programm to get someone else used to the keyboard layout..06:01
anatolebob2: mounts a cd image06:01
klaas_bob2: If i'm correct.. mount iso images..06:01
thoreauputicNightcr8wl3r: well, sorry - couldn't resist ;-)06:01
bob2anatole: the kernel can do that itself06:01
anatolereally? :)06:02
Nightcr8wl3rquite alright...06:02
bob2klaas_: "daemon tools" is also djb's service running framework thing06:02
klaas_anatole: sudo mount -t iso8996 /path/to/image.iso /path/to/mountpoint06:02
Nightcr8wl3r;-)06:02
VRHwhen i do right click in the desktop, and the menu appear, how i can do to add specific new document in create new document?06:02
bob2klaas_: don't forget the -o loop06:02
anatolethank you klaas_06:02
[R] hello, i'm trying to install icewm or xfce via apt-get, but i get errors (broken packages, unmet dependencies, imlib1 libpng10-0). Can anybody help me ? :)06:02
klaas_bob2: Yup, sorry06:02
klaas_bob2: Any experience with tv-tuner cards?06:03
thoreauputic[R] : your sources are probably incomplete06:03
bob2klaas_: no, sorry06:03
thoreauputic[R] : and you probably really would prefer xfce406:03
thoreauputic!repositories06:03
ubotuI guess repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto06:03
klaas_bob2: Sorry, I'm desperate.. I want to buy a card, but hey I need to know if the chipset is supported..06:03
thoreauputic[R] : read the URL the bot just spat out06:03
bob2klaas_: bt878 works fine06:03
VRHwhen i do right click in the desktop, and the menu appear, how i can do to add specific new document in create new document?06:04
klaas_bob2: I figured that out, but then I saw something about the tuner being a philips chip.06:04
[R] thoreauputic, thanx for your answer. The sources are the default ones, i just unquote the universes.06:04
bob2klaas_: just buy one that you can return06:04
thoreauputic[R] : that should be enough- did you reload - update etc ?06:05
klaas_bob2: Check this: http://www4.alternate.nl/html/nodes_info/jkpi48.html06:05
klaas_bob2: It's dutch but the specs for chips are readable i quess.06:05
[R] thoreauputic, yes i did twice ;-(06:05
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mirkashhow to make intel 537 modem work in ubuntu warty06:05
[R] i followed the miniRAM How-to06:05
klaas_bob2: At the code section.06:05
nJessxmms locks up when i try to use it06:06
nJesswhat are my options?06:06
thoreauputic[R] : hmm - should work: I think both xfce4 and icewm are in Universe06:06
klaas_nJess: run it in a terminal, so you can get some output..06:06
bob2nJess: presumably it's not configured properly06:06
forsaker8k6hi everybody06:06
klaas_nJess: We can probably do something with that.06:07
anto9us'sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 -o rw' doesn't give me write permission, how do I enable it?06:07
nJessbob2, it used to work before i updated to hoary06:07
nJessand it is locked06:07
forsaker8k6got a question: how to change my display manager, wich is gdm, to entrance?06:07
klaas_anto9us: what filesystem06:07
nJessand i have no terminal output06:07
thoreauputicnJess: have ou tried setting esound as output plugin?06:07
thoreauputic*you06:07
timscan someone help me.. im searching an "dictionary app" for gnome06:07
anto9usklaas_: vfat but the -t vfat option makes no difference06:07
timswhich uses an offline database06:07
kestasbob2: the reason Im worried is that I found this in my web log:    Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.6) Gecko/20050524 Firefox/1.0 (Ubuntu package 1.0.2 MFSA2005-44)06:08
nJessthanks thoreauputic06:08
klaas_anto9us: add, uid={youruser} to your -o param.06:08
kestasnotice the MFSA2005-4406:08
hardcampa-tims what's wrong with gnome-dictionary06:08
thoreauputicnJess: works?06:08
kestasSA for security advisory?06:08
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nJessyup06:08
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thoreauputic:)06:08
timshardcampa-, is it installed by default?06:08
kestasthis is mine: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.6) Gecko/20050512 Firefox/1.0 (Ubuntu package 1.0.2)06:08
kestasand apparently yours too06:08
kestasno MFSA :s06:09
hardcampa-tims dunno if it is on Ubuntu06:09
hardcampa-just try it06:09
kestasyou didnt just copy my version and paste it did you?06:09
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thoreauputichardcampa-: try resetting the URL to test.dict.org06:10
anto9usklaas_: the params are comma seperated right? it doesn't seem to like more than one06:10
thoreauputichardcampa-: they have changed it at dict06:10
thoreauputicdict.org06:10
nJesshow do i mount /dev/hdb1 ??06:10
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hardcampa-? I'm not the one asking06:10
thoreauputichardcampa-: I have it aliased to the test URl and it works06:10
timsso its only called dict now06:10
klaas_anto9us: yes.06:11
VRHwhen i do right click in the desktop, and the menu appear, how i can do to add specific new document in create new document?06:11
kestascan someone with an up to date version of firefox on ubuntu hoary please paste their Help>About Mozilla Firefox info?06:11
thoreauputichardcampa- tims what's wrong with gnome-dictionary << sorry I misread this06:11
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thoreauputictims: did you see what I posted above?06:12
bob2kestas: why does that worry you?06:12
bionicbob2, theres no such file README.Debian for it, i run /usr/share/lufs/prepmode, but it fails to prepare the lufs.ko module for my Linux kernel 2.6.10-5-386. and it puts out, Detected Linux kernel sources "/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build" do not appear to be valid and Please install kernel-source-x.y.z.i386.rpm or kernel-headers_x.y.z_i386.deb.. But I have both them installed in /usr/src. Can you please help? Been trying to figure out this for a06:12
bionicweek now :\06:12
thoreauputictims: " try resetting the URL to test.dict.org06:12
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bob2bionic: ask on the user list06:12
anto9usklaas_: 'sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 -o rw, uid=anthony' wasn't accepted but ' sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 -w -o uid=anthony' was. Still no joy though06:13
Praisem247any1 know how to clear the history in the xterm06:13
bionicbob2, user list where?06:13
bob2bionic: http://lists.ubuntu.com/06:13
kestasbob2: well some visitor do my website has a security advisory number appended to his ubuntu number as if, perhaps, he had the security fix for the advisory number06:13
bionicokay thanks06:14
kentPraisem247   delete .bash_history in your homedir?06:14
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Praisem247k06:14
bob2kestas: perhaps that's an old one06:14
Praisem247are there other history files06:14
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klaas_anto9us: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 -o rw,uid={youruser},fmask=137,dmask=02706:15
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kentPraisem247  .bash_history is the history-file of of the commands you have run from terminals.06:15
Praisem247ok thanks06:15
kestasbob2: Visitor: Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.6) Gecko/20050524 Firefox/1.0 (Ubuntu package 1.0.2 MFSA2005-44) ||| Mine: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.6) Gecko/20050512 Firefox/1.0 (Ubuntu package 1.0.2)06:16
kestasnotice anything about the Gecko version number?06:16
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anto9usklaas_: still get permission denied06:16
bob2kestas: ok06:16
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bob2kestas: read the url I posted and find out if there's an issue, I guess06:16
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kestasan issue? I just want to know if I have all the security fixes I should have, and it looks like I dont06:17
klaas_anto9us: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/usbmem -o 'rw,uid=khagen,fmask=137,dmask=027' works for me..06:17
kestasbut I dont know how to tell06:17
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anto9usklaas_: hmm.. I'll recheck things, I've done something wrong somewhere, thanks for the help :)06:18
thoreauputickestas: I have the latest I think, and it's Gecko/2005052406:18
kestasif youve got an up to date system and have the same version as me, then how does one of my visitors have an apparently more recent version?06:18
kestasthoreauputic: thank you06:18
klaas_anto9us: good luck.06:18
bob2kestas: yes, I told you how to tell06:18
kestaslooks like there is something wrong with my system bob2, lucky I persevered or I wouldnt have known for much longer06:19
Praisem247how can I search for the file kent06:19
bob2kestas: the url I gave you is the security-announce list archive; find the most recent firefox announcement and see if you have that version06:19
Praisem247kent: loc of .bash-history06:19
Praisem247kent: search?06:19
Codeman7I am having a problem. Maybe every minute or so, my X screen just locks up for a second. if I'm typing, it pauses for a solid second, and then resumes. Everything on the screen just stops for a second.06:19
Praisem247nm06:19
kestasbob2: you also told me your version was the same as mine when it isnt.. is going into firefox>Help>About Mozilla Firefox *so* hard?06:19
kestasokay now Ive got to figure out why my system isnt updating06:20
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bob2kestas: wtf06:20
kentPraisem247  it should be in your home.   Open up a terminal do "cat .bash_history"  (if the file exists..)06:20
bob2kestas: I pasted what it said06:20
bob2please don't accuse me of lying06:20
kestasbob2| "kestas: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.6) Gecko/20050512 Firefox/1.0 (Ubuntu package 1.0.2)"06:20
nJessthere is a bug where ubuntu doesn't update the version numbers of firefox06:20
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nJessso you can't update06:20
nJessbut uh06:20
bob2kestas: yes, that's what my firefox said06:20
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kestasso thats your version?? how can you, me and thoreauputic have different versions?!06:21
nJessit really is 1.0.406:21
Praisem247ls06:21
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kentPraisem247 you can try to just open your Home-folder with the filebrowser and select to view hidden files (i think by right-clicking on the folder.. but im unsure, sitting in windows right now)06:21
bob2kestas: easily06:21
bob2kestas: presumably two of us are not up to date with security.ubuntu.com06:21
nJessbob206:21
bob2kestas: why don't you just go and read the page I pointed you at and find out the latest version?06:21
kestasI should be, I refreshed just now06:21
nJessubuntu doesn't update the firefox version number06:21
bob2nJess: no, it is realy 1.0.206:21
kestasI refresh every other day06:21
kentPraisem247 if you do "ls" in the home, the file wont show since it starts with an "." and there for is hidden. "ls -al" will show the hidden files aswell06:21
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thoreauputicnJess: the work around for themes and extensions is to use the about:config and search for vendor string, change to 1.0.406:21
nJessoh06:21
nJessalright06:21
|Lupin|Hello everybody.06:21
Praisem247k06:22
nJessthoreauputic, thats where i was comming from06:22
Praisem247how do u DEL in xterm06:22
nJess;)06:22
Codeman7I am having a problem. Maybe every minute or so, my X screen just locks up for a second. if I'm typing, it pauses for a solid second, and then resumes. Everything on the screen just stops for a second.06:22
|Lupin|We have a problem with the mozilla-thunderbird package, namely a segmentation fault in run-mozilla.sh:159.06:22
|Lupin|Isthis a known problem, please ?06:22
bob2|Lupin|: you can check in bugzillla (http://bugzila.ubuntu.com) to see if someone else has reported it06:23
kentPraisem247  what do you meen with "DEL"?  Delete files?06:23
bob2kestas: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood06:23
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Praisem247yes06:23
sam2why dont they make any nice guis for console emus for linux? they all seem to be command line-based06:23
sam2its a bit annoying06:23
Praisem247the history06:23
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bionicbob2, is captive-ntfs the only thing to use if I want write support on my ntfs partitions? I've tried ntfs write support in the kernel on different dists, but write wont work. Dont know how its in ubuntu yet?06:23
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bob2bionic: yes06:23
kentPraisem247  the command "rm" do that.  example: "rm /home/Praisem247/.bash_history" will delete that file.06:24
|Lupin|bob2: ok thanks forThepointer.06:24
kestasbob2: pasted it06:24
bob2ah, same isp as me06:24
kestasbob2: I have ubuntu5.206:24
Praisem247thanks06:24
thoreauputicsam2: console emus? You mean like xtermand gnome-terminal?06:24
kentPraisem247  why do you want to delete the history? most people wanting to do that, are not on a computer where they should be ;)06:24
kestasbob2: which I think should be the latest version06:24
bob2kestas: you mean 5.04?06:24
|Lupin|bob2: By the way: AccordingTo google, the problem has already been reported. But I didn't find any solution.06:24
kestasbob2: but then how can me and thoreauputic have different versions06:24
bob2|Lupin|: ah, ok06:24
kestasbob2: I mean firefox 1.0.2-ubuntu5.206:25
sam2thoreauputic, no video game console emus06:25
bob2ok06:25
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thoreauputickestas: is it possible your backports are stuffing things up?06:25
Nightcr8wl3rI am looking for an app that can bring up to terminal sessions and echo the commands on both terminal sessions06:26
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Nightcr8wl3rany ideas06:26
kestasthoreauputic: not using backports, and if they were they would have to be stuffing bob2's up too06:26
nJessthe guy who wrote the hokey pokey died06:26
bob2nJess: screen06:26
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thoreauputickestas: umm - I doubt that bob2 uses backports06:26
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kestasthoreauputic: well neither do I06:26
nJessNightcr8wl3r, screen06:27
sam2if you are able to code an emulator for a tv game system you should be able to code up a basic GUI to let you pick the rom from a list and change settings from a set of menus06:27
kestasabarbaccia: screen06:27
thoreauputickestas: ah Ok sorry - i failed to notice yours were commented out06:27
PhantomFreakI've been trying to share files on my Ubuntu laptop to my XP PC, but it keeps coming up with password protection, I didn't tell it to put a password on it and it wont accept any passwords/usernames I type in... Does anyone know how to get this to work?06:27
bob2kestas: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2005-May/000141.html06:27
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Nightcr8wl3rnJess thanks...I will look into that06:27
bob2kestas: that's the most recent announcement, 5.2 is the latest one06:27
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kestasbob2: okay thanks for the help06:27
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kestasbob2: wiat! 5.3 is the latest06:28
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kestasIve got 5.206:28
Rockett17PhantomFreak> You need to install samba "sudo apt-get install samba" and then type smbpasswd at the command line06:28
|Lupin|hmm ? http://bugzila.ubuntu.com doesn't work ??06:28
PhantomFreakI already have... But when I try to log in on my XP machine it says it's password protected! But it isn't!06:28
bob2|Lupin|: 2 l's06:29
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nJesstype the username and password of your winbox06:29
kestas"The problem can be corrected by upgrading the affected package to version 1.0.2-0ubuntu5.3." Ive got 5.2?!06:29
|Lupin|bob2: ok, thanks.06:29
hornsbyPhantomFreak, so the XP machines is making trouble here06:29
hornsbyPhantomFreak, not ubuntu06:29
bob2kestas: yeah, indeed06:30
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bob2so, our final answer is http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mozilla-firefox/06:30
bob2no more bets06:30
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kestasI just reloaded my package lists in synaptic again, and still it's 5.206:31
talamodsomeone earlier mentioned that Ardoure was availible for Ubuntu. I'm running hoary with swedish mirrors, and I can't find Ardour (ardour-gtk).06:31
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lamont__swarm: which bug were you talking about?06:31
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Codeman7I am having a problem. Maybe every minute or so, my X screen just locks up for a second. if I'm typing, it pauses for a solid second, and then resumes. Everything on the screen just stops for a second.06:31
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swarm165906:33
thoreauputickestas: grepping /var/cache/apt/archives shows mozilla-firefox_1.0.2-0ubuntu5.3_i386.deb here06:33
swarmlamont, https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=165906:33
kestasthoreauputic: doesnt show a lot here06:34
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gekoanyone has succesfull connect his palmtop to ubuntu?06:34
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likwidhi06:34
talamodI think you noted that ardour was availible for Ubuntu, thoreauputic?06:34
thoreauputickestas: well, your archives might ahve been cleaned out...06:34
thoreauputictalamod: yes - look for ardour-gtk06:34
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talamodthoreauputic, but not in the main repository?06:35
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forsaker8k6excuse me if i repeate more then one time my question, but does anyone know how to switch from gdm to entrance?06:35
thoreauputictalamod: apt-cache policy ardour-gtk says: 500 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages06:35
kestasthoreauputic: bob2: http://pastebin.com/30039906:35
talamod"Ubuntu Universe"06:35
talamodah!06:35
kestasthats what happens when I apt-get update; apt-get upgrade06:35
kestasnothing looks out of the ordinary to me, I dont get it06:36
likwidany help page on msi no4 platinum06:36
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thoreauputickestas: your gpg keys a re wrong?06:37
likkashot76cant get to install my 2nd NIC card06:37
nJessi can't play a DVD06:37
kestasthoreauputic: I was told it didnt matter, and that it would update anyway?06:37
nJessit says device or resource busy06:37
bob2kestas: is that reproducible?06:37
nJesswhat can i do?06:37
bob2kestas: missing keys won't cause the06:37
kestasbob2: what do you mean? can I do it again?06:37
thoreauputickestas: *shrug*06:37
bob2nJess: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:37
kestasbob2: I can do it as many times as you want06:37
bob2nJess: that is in the faq...06:37
nJessbob2, that doesn't help06:37
nJessi already had it working once06:37
bob2nJess: yes, it does06:37
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Eitanhello, i just installed ubuntu last night, no major problems until this morning06:38
kestaslol06:39
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|Lupin|please06:39
likkashot76cant get to install my 2nd NIC card06:39
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nJessbob2, i looked again06:39
likkashot76:(06:39
|Lupin|the bugzilla system is not that easy to use for me -- I'm blind06:39
nJesssection 8 has nothing to do with my problem06:39
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|Lupin|could someone have a look for a segmentation fault problem in the package mozilla-thunderbird, please ?06:39
bob2|Lupin|: I doubt that will help06:40
bob2the fix is almost certainly "upgrade"06:40
kestasbob2: thoreauputic: any ideas about sorting out my problem?06:40
steven_why do i get this message seeting up the system clock using the hardware clock as reference. couldnt set the clock byt any known method06:40
bob2sleep time06:40
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|Lupin|bob2: That would at least bring the certitudeThat an upgrade will solvethe problem...06:40
swarmlamont__,  I was talking about bug 1659 (https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1659). I get message "Cannot access Hardware Clock via any known method" during boot and I'm experiencing a strong clock skew.06:40
kestas|Lupin|: I was wondering; why is it so much easier for blind people to read brail than letters which stick out of the page?06:40
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bob2kestas: I'd assume screwed transparent proxy06:41
|Lupin|kestas: simpler shape, I guess.06:41
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kestas|Lupin|: why not just have enlish charecters which stick out so you can feel them? surely that would be easier than dots06:41
steven_why i cant use mysqladmin -u root password 'new-pass'06:41
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steven_ get an error06:41
lamont__modprobe hwclock06:41
lamont__er, modprobe rtc06:41
kestassteven_: mysql -u root -ppassword06:42
lamont__it's on my radar to actually fix that sometime soonish06:42
lamont__swarm: ^^^06:42
|Lupin|kestas: no it would not. It would take more place, or would be too small...06:42
steven_kestas, root@ubuntu:/home/steven # mysql -u root -p06:42
steven_Enter password:06:42
steven_ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: YES)06:42
kestassteven_ well you need the password..06:43
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tswsteven_: you have wrong password06:43
steven_kestas, i am typing the password06:43
steven_how can i change the password06:43
nJessheh06:43
nJessi found the problem06:43
swarmlamont__: rtc was just loaded while experiencing the problem...06:43
nJessprograms can't access my dvd drive06:43
nJesshow can i fix this?06:44
KarlosIIrotflol I crashed gimp on my first time usinga and setting it up with in 1 minute06:44
kestassteven_: well youll have to log on first, and you cant do that without the pass06:44
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tswI bet there is a way to hack around it, but havent done it :)06:44
kestasgimp is good, not as good as photoshop but still good.06:44
steven_kestas, but i cant log in it always shows that error06:44
kestassteven_: well thats because youve got the wrong password06:45
steven_can i change it with root user06:45
kestassteven_: root mysql user06:45
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kestasnot root ubuntu user06:45
likkashot76plz somebody how can I make my second nic card available I just dont remember how06:45
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lamont__swarm: the issue is that hwclockfirst.sh runs before modules are loaded, and rtc is a module for some completely unknown reason06:45
tswsteven_: or any user that has the rights to change it06:45
kestaswell you probably can.. but Ill be damned if I know how to directly edit mysql database files06:45
StuttergartAnyone know how to tell udev to create /dev/tape and /dev/changer after a reboot?06:46
steven_can i use mysqladmin06:46
kestas.. not wihtout the root password06:46
tswsteven_: still you need the pass06:46
swarmlamont__, with #dmesg | tail -30 I get 30 times "APIC error on CPU0: 40(40)" and it's an hour pc is up. Could be related to the problem above?06:46
steven_but when i type mysqladmin -u root password 'test1'06:46
steven_'06:46
talamodhas anyone here attempted installing "realtime-lsm"? I get a "kernel headers not found" error with module-assistant. but kernel-headers-2.6.10-5-386 are installed, and they match my current kernel.06:47
steven_i get this error mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed06:47
steven_error: 'Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: NO)'06:47
swarmlamont__: so it could be easily fixed changing the order of run or it's needed to make rtc to not run as module?06:47
tswsteven_: http://simplythebest.net/info/programming/mysql_root_password.html (this is for redhat, but should work for ubuntu too)06:47
kestassteven_ thats because you dont have the password06:47
lamont__swarm: the fix is to change the runorder06:47
steven_is there any way to reinstall mysql and start over again06:48
tswreally quite simple, just dont load mysql as background service but make it load so that you have the prompt right away, and then you can change the pass06:48
lamont__swarm: at least, that's the assertion.  I lack the ability to test it.06:48
tswsteven_: sudo apt-get remove --purge mysql-server ; apt-get install mysql-server06:48
swarmlamont__: I see that hwclockfirst.sh and hwclock.sh aren't loaded at boot according to current conf.06:49
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lamont__swarm: /etc/rcS.d/S18hwclockfirst.sh  /etc/rcS.d/S50hwclock.sh06:50
lamont__and module-init-tools is at 2006:50
VRHwhen i do right click in the desktop, and the menu appear, how i can do to add specific new document in create new document?06:50
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lamont__so moving S18hwclockfirst.sh to S21hwclockfirst.sh should fix it06:50
lamont__in theory.06:50
lamont__I'd love to know if it does.06:50
swarmI can try06:50
|Lupin|Pls, is there a doc about how to upgrade from one Ubuntu flavour to another one ?06:51
|Lupin|Is it as simple as running apt-get dist-upgrade ?06:51
KarlosIIwhat's the command to refresh the fonts database?06:51
lamont__|Lupin|: yes06:51
lamont__well, with the sources.list change, of course06:51
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|Lupin|lamont__: ok. I'm sorry but I don't know anything about ubuntu. What are thenames ofthe different flavours ?06:52
tsw|Lupin|: just check that sources.list is updated and then apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade06:52
concept10what is the latest production kernel, anyone know?06:53
steven_can i pass variables in php with ?varaible=something06:53
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talamodhow do I get the linux source? I can't find any kernel-source packages06:53
tswconcept10: www.kernel.org knows06:53
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concept10I mean for ubuntu06:53
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tswsteven_: yes06:53
talamodd'oih, found it06:53
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concept10What is the latest kernel for ubuntu06:53
steven_can i use apt-get more than once at the same time06:53
concept10nope06:54
Funraiserconcept10, 2.606:54
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PhantomFreakTo the guy wh #o told be that it was XP causing the networking problesm... It wasn't XP cos the same thing happend if both machines are running Ubuntu!06:54
kestasbob2: got it working, it was a proxy issue06:54
kestasbob2: possibly something to do with cacheing06:54
kestasbob2: using tsocks did it06:54
|Lupin|bye everybody, thanks for being so nice.06:54
gekoBus 002 Device 011: ID 03f0:1016 Hewlett-Packard Jornada 548 Pocket PC06:54
concept10Does anyone know if there are SMP kernels for ubuntu?06:55
gekolsusb recognize my palm06:55
gekobut i can't connect06:55
steven_and can i use isse($variable)06:55
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kestas12 outdated pieces of software including firefox and the kernel :(06:55
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tswsteven_: maybe you should try06:55
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yahalomhow do i check my runlevel?06:55
Di42lo`306:56
kestasyahalom: ps ax | grep init06:56
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yahalomDi42lo`, 206:56
Di42lo`oh i though you are asking from where you are talking right now06:57
tswyahalom: runlevel (well on debian it is :)06:57
Funraiserconcept10, yes there is06:57
Di42lo`yahalom:  06:58
Di42lo`:\06:58
concept10Funraiser, where is it located?  can I get it with synaptic?06:58
kestasrunlevel is a stupid command06:58
yahalomDi42lo`, sucks.  i cant see ur hebrew at the moment06:58
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yahalomDi42lo`, whats up?06:58
Di42lo`yahalom: irssi ?06:58
Di42lo`yahalom: im cool..you ?06:58
yahalomDi42lo`, no ion06:58
kestasshalom06:58
yahalomDi42lo`, cool06:58
Di42lo`heh06:58
concept10Funraiser, I found them06:58
Di42lo`israel 4 life06:58
yahalomkestas, shalom shalom06:58
yahalomDi42lo`, ?06:59
kestasyahalom: shalom shalom shalom06:59
concept10Funraiser, typed "Linux" in the search box :)06:59
Di42lo`lama atem lo be linux.il @ efnet06:59
Funraiserconcept10, I think it's by default06:59
Di42lo`kulam sham06:59
yahalomkestas, u like to bless eh? ;) good06:59
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Di42lo`kestas: where are you from ?07:00
kestasaustralia07:00
Di42lo`cool07:00
yahalomDi42lo`, efo ze?07:00
concept10Funraiser, huh?07:00
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Di42lo`yahalom: efo ma ?07:00
yahalomkestas, greek?07:00
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Funraiserconcept10, u have 2 processors?07:00
yahalomDi42lo`, israel 4 life?07:00
kestasyahalom: the name's lithuanian actually, many people think greek07:00
Di42lo`yahalom: lo meshane07:00
kestasshort for kestutis07:00
Heartare the backport debs for kubuntu and ubuntu the same?07:00
Heartdeb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted07:00
Heartand "..extra"?07:00
Di42lo`kestas: ben kama ?07:01
concept10Funraiser, I have a (1) P4 with HT07:01
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kestasI dont speak hebrew07:01
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concept10Funraiser, HT processors can use SMP kernels07:01
Di42lo`kestas: how old are you ?07:01
yahalomkestas, kestutis cool07:01
Funraiserk07:01
kestas1707:01
yahalomDi42lo`, everyone here is around 10-1107:01
Di42lo`nah07:02
yahalomDi42lo`, i'm the youngest i'm 9 next week :)07:02
Di42lo`yeah right :|07:02
yahalomDi42lo`, i have no clue i'm 2107:02
Di42lo`working with linux ?07:02
steven_why it doesnt assign the variable when i use a link like something?web=back07:02
yahalomDi42lo`, yes ofcourse07:03
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kestassteven_: what language?07:03
yahalomDi42lo`, y u on windows?07:03
steven_php07:03
Di42lo`yahalom:  ...      07:03
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kestassteven_: are you using register_globals?07:04
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Di42lo`yahalom: you dont understand..i mean if you are working at job with linux..not working at home07:04
steven_hummm.... i dont think so07:04
yahalomDi42lo`, ah. i wish07:04
concept10talamod, angula?07:04
yahalomDi42lo`, i worked with windows07:04
yahalomDi42lo`, everyone here is windows crazy07:05
kestassteven_: so what happens when you do print $_GET['web'] ; ?07:05
Di42lo`yahalom: fvkk windows07:05
talamodconcept10, agnula07:05
nJesshey, whats the name of that KDE browser?07:05
yahalomDi42lo`, but the army asked me to help them with linux, but i'm done with the army. enough years.07:05
yahalomDi42lo`, u before the army right?07:05
Rockett17Konqueror07:05
zevernJess, Konqueror07:05
concept10Has anyone here recompiled a ubuntu kernel07:05
kestasconcept10: ubuntu kernel?07:06
kestasconcept10: Ive recompiled a linux kernel07:06
yahalomDi42lo`, u know the army switched or is in the process of switching to linux. so tell them when they recruit u. u'll have a good job.07:06
Di42lo`yahalom: yes im before army07:06
kestasconcept10: Im probably being too pedantic here07:06
Di42lo`yahalom: okay...thx for the info07:06
yahalomDi42lo`, unless u want to be a rambo07:06
concept10kestas, there is a debian way of recompiling if you know what i mean07:06
Di42lo`yahalom: heh no :|07:06
steven_kestas, well now i get the variable content07:07
kestasconcept10: ah I see, I think you have to do it the harder way with ubuntu07:07
yahalomDi42lo`, rambo is more fun, and u still use computers nowadays, more than ud think :)\07:07
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kestassteven_ so is there a problem or is that it?07:07
concept10yahalom, the army wont be switching to linux anytime soon07:07
yahalomconcept10, which army?07:07
kestaswhy cant you be a linux using rambo?07:07
concept10US07:07
kestasthats what Id be if I was enlisted07:07
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Di42lo`yahalom: you mean kravi when you say rambo ?07:07
yahalomconcept10, i'm talking about the IDF07:08
kestasrambo with a zaurus07:08
yahalomDi42lo`, yes07:08
concept10yahalom, sorry LOL07:08
steven_kestas, can i only use for example echo $web; or i need to do echo $_DET['web'] 07:08
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steven_$_GET07:08
yahalomconcept10, the us navy uses linux for its missiles, u knew that?07:08
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kestassteven_: thats bad security practise but yes you can07:08
concept10yahalom, what navy?07:08
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gekoguys anyone knows a repository with synce?07:08
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steven_kestas, the best is GET07:08
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yahalomconcept10, i dont remember what missile. i read it. the us navy uses linux for its missile guiding system.07:08
kestaseh?07:09
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concept10yahalom, it must be built into the missile, I spent 13 years in the navy.  The tomahawk console is a general purpose computer07:09
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yahalomconcept10, http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/10/27/us_army_going_to_linux/07:10
kestassteven_: if(!empty($_GET)) extract($_GET);07:10
kestasif(!empty($_POST)) extract($_POST);07:10
concept10yahalom, Ive been on three missile ships07:10
chrissturmyahalom: does your system still work? :)07:10
kestasthat will act like register globals is disabled07:10
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Rockett17does that mean there is flying penguins?07:10
yahalomconcept10, yes i think its built in. let me find it for u.07:10
yahalomchrissturm, i didnt do the switch in the end.07:10
chrissturmgreat!07:10
chrissturmyahalom, i had a bad feeling about it07:11
kestasconcept10: does that mean I can open an excel spreadsheet on a tomahawk missile?07:11
kestashow handy07:11
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steven_kestas, can i use if(isset($_GET['web'] )07:11
Rockett17or play tux racer on a tomahawk missile07:11
Rockett17:)07:11
kestassteven_: yes07:11
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yahalomconcept10, US Navy Open Architecture (OA) Operating Systems: Embedded operating systems for07:11
yahalom... BSG-1 Program Nuclear Tomahawk Missile Program07:11
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yahalomsorry kind of longer than i thought07:11
Olyhi, been messing with ssh today and have got a bit confused, ssh username@ip works fine but if i add a path onto it i.e. sshusername@ip:/home/user/ it keels over and does not login07:11
kestaswhat was that film with the guy who rides a bomb with a cowboy hat?07:11
concept10yahalom, Yes. They are implementing Linux in alot of EMBEDDED applications. You wont find GNOME in Combat to fire tomahawks07:11
yahalomconcept10, i dotn think its pure linux07:11
Olyanyone got any suggestions, given me some grief today07:12
steven_and then can i use $web=null or what should i do'07:12
yahalomconcept10, lol that would be fun. like a little gnome missle icon.07:12
concept10yahalom, LOL07:12
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yahalomlol07:12
kestassteven_: what ? why what are you trying to do07:12
swarmlamont__, read e-mail07:12
lamont__swarm: ok07:12
yahalomconcept10, or an atom bomb. and then kde with their crystal icons. the xfce one should be a little mouse riding a missile. lol07:12
xy77Oly: did you try ssh -l <username> ... ?07:12
lamont__swarm: or rather, I will when it finally gets to me..07:13
Olyyeah i can login finr xy7707:13
concept10yahalom, The US Navy is using linux for control systems i.e. Sonar, Propulsion07:13
XenguyOly: I think the ':' assumes '/home/dir'07:13
Olybut i want to login to a set path07:13
yahalomDi42lo`, u see bro. missiles.07:13
steven_i am trying to know what is the content of a variable and then assign the null to the variable07:13
steven_can i show you my code07:13
yahalomconcept10, what kind u know?07:13
Olyi am trying to make a bash backup script07:13
Olybut the ssh command falls over when specifying a path07:13
Di42lo`yahalom: :d07:13
XenguyOly: sorry, I misread (thought you were talking scp)07:14
swarmlamont__, yes it's quite lagged07:14
kestassteven_: unset($_GET['web'] )07:14
Olywell scp might work not tried using it with rsync before though07:14
concept10yahalom, I have to look it up, some control systems are using Windows NT and 2000.  But most are still using consoles with circuit cards and PLCs (I worked on control systems my whole career)07:14
xy77anyone can help me with a sound issue? A few days ago the sound stopped working. It used to work and I don't know of anything I could have changed concerning sound settings.07:14
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kestasspeaking of backup scripts; how do you encrypt backups?07:14
kestasis there any command line stream/block cipher program for linux?07:15
Olyi get the error of Name or service not known07:15
xy77kestas.. zip with encryption?07:15
swarmlamont__, anyway there is even S25libdevmapper1.00 so I have tried with success as S28hwclockfirst.sh but perhaps S26 is ok.07:15
steven_kestas, but what if want to use the variable later can i still do it if i use the unset07:15
Olymissing out the path just brings up a password screen and logs me in :p07:15
kestasxy77: I imagine zip's encryption isn't great, and its compression isnt great either07:15
yahalomconcept10, nice. well it would have sucked if windows crashes during a missle launch07:15
concept10yahalom, I worked on propulsion control systems (the ones that start stop and monitor jet engines)07:15
kestasxy77: for automated backups you need something that uses a key file07:16
yahalomconcept10, what are they run on?07:16
xy77kestas: well, you could pgp a file, couldn't you?07:16
kestassteven_: soo... you want to set the variable to null, then use it later?07:16
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kestasxy77: wouldnt that be a little slow? pgp takes a long time to encrypt large files doesnt it?07:16
concept10yahalom, no - the missle computers are controlled by general purpose computers just for that purpose.  The tomahawk computer system fills a COUPLE of rooms07:16
steven_yes07:16
kestassteven_: well you cant.. once you set a variable to null it's null believe it or not07:17
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kestassteven_: the previous contents are gone07:17
xy77kestas: do you know of any fast ways to encrypt large files? Encryption currently implies slowlyness?07:17
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yahalomconcept10, does the tomahawk missile have a penguin on it?07:17
steven_kestas, i dont mean the previous content i mean if i can assign a different content later07:18
xy77I'm about to switch back to Gentoo, If I can't get this sound back to work in ubuntu. Anyone would like to keep me from that?07:18
kestasxy77: all I know is pgp asymmetric encryption is way slower than using a stream/block cipher. rc4 can encrypt around 50MB/s on a pentium 2, I bet pgp asymmetric encryption is nowhere near as fast07:18
concept10yahalom, nope.  It has a tomahawk on it.07:18
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kestasxy77: are you threatening us with switching back to gentoo? :)07:18
xy77kestas: I see07:18
klaymwhat's the easiest way to setup a bluetooth connection between my computer (usb dongle) and Nokia 6600? which programs should I apt-get?07:18
concept10yahalom, its so cool to see them being launched07:18
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xy77kestas: I'm desperate, and what else can I do? :-)07:19
chrissturmxy77: a very clever way to get help is to threaten07:19
yahalomconcept10, yeah i can imagine. see them, never launched them.07:19
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kestasxy77: okay then I'll bite.. whats the problem?07:19
tweeki can't mount my floppy drive :|07:19
concept10yahalom, they come out of the VLS slow and turn then wings pop out and they take off.  We launched 10 of them at one time07:19
yahalomkol israelim lifnei hasheru smakirim linux: http://www.iglu.org.il/old-zope-articles/969699608.html07:20
kestassteven_: of course you can07:20
concept10yahalom, we launched them at night07:20
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steven_ok thanks07:20
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kestassteven_: $test = 'blah'; print $test; unset($test); $test=07:20
xy77kestas: a few days ago my sound stopped working. I don't know how it came. I have a intel 82801db/DBL/DBM (ICH4...) card that's recognised by aplay -l07:20
kestas'something else'; print $test;07:20
kestasit will work07:20
kestasxy77: okay so theres just no sound?07:20
kestasxy77: log in as root07:21
kestasxy77: or open a root console07:21
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xy77kestas: doesn't work as root either. I don't think it's a module issue.07:21
yahalomconcept10, i'm dissapointed in ur for not drawing a penguin on one of them at least. i mean the nuke had "goodbye" written on it and i bet some bombs had "kiss my %$%^ Saddam" all over them07:21
kestasxy77: and try cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp007:21
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yahalomconcept10, all u  had to do is draw a little penguin :)07:21
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xy77kestas: doesn't help07:21
concept10yahalom, I didnt work on missles.  I worked with engineering and control systems07:21
kestasstill nothing?07:21
kestasxy77: hmmm07:22
xy77kestas: nope, being root07:22
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kestasxy77: have you tried 'cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp0' ?07:22
yahalomconcept10, ah ok. so u couldnt do that. so u couldnt get near enough? how long were u in the navy?07:22
kestasxy77: as root preferably07:22
steven_kestas, whats wrong here if ($_GET['web']  == 'g1') { include 'g1.php'; unset($_GET['web'] ) }07:22
xy77I wonder whether it's a alsa.conf or asound.conf issue... or modutils.d/foobar07:22
tweekhow do i manually configure my floppy drive?07:22
kestassteven_: youre missing the semicolon on the unset($_GET['web'] )07:23
xy77kestas: no /dev/dsp0 available, tried /dev/dsp07:23
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steven_ok07:23
kestasxy77: nothing?07:23
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xy77kestas: nope07:23
kestas'cat /proc/asound/cards' what does it say?07:23
xy77kestas: tried /dev/audio as well07:23
kestas'dmesg'07:23
kestasoutput those two and copy them into pastebin.com07:24
selinium_Hi all, how do I uninstall skype.. I think i installed it via dpkg07:24
yahalomconcept10, dont answer that07:24
concept10yahalom, you have to have specific purpose of going in missile rooms. they have cypher locks.07:24
kestasxy77: and just make sure its all plugged in right and everything07:24
kestasxy77: and the volume's turned up07:24
kestasjust in case07:24
xy77kestas: it lists the Intet card, dmesg complains about driver/usb/input/hid-core.c: input irq status -84 received, which will be a mouse problem.07:24
yahalomconcept10, and ud have to be a real geek to try and bypass them just to draw tux on one of them.07:24
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kestasxy77: could you copy it all to pastebin.com please?07:24
xy77kestas: volume's up for Master and PCM, unmuted.07:24
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concept10bbl07:25
steven_kestas, does it matter if i close the updater in the middle of a download07:25
yahalomconcept10, take care man. was sweet.07:25
jacohi all07:25
kestassteven_: whats the updated?07:25
kestas*updater?07:25
jacoevolution don't work in breezy for me07:25
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steven_kestas, i mean the package manager07:26
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xy77kestas: nothing to plug, the laptop has internal speakers (it's a ibm thinkpad t42p btw)07:26
kestassteven_: nope07:26
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concept10see you guys later, im off to build a kernel07:26
kestasxy77: okay can you paste dmesg and cat /proc/asound/cards into pastebin.com07:26
kestasxy77: and can you think of anything you changed?07:27
steven_kestas, when i start it again it starts downloading over again or it starts from the last session07:27
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kestassteven_: and thats a good thing right?07:27
xy77kestas: dmesg has nothing but iptable stuff and this hid-core07:28
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kestasxy77: I just want to get a better idea baout your system Im not psychic07:28
xy77kestas: I see. would /etc/asound|alsa stuff be of interest?07:29
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kestassure07:29
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steven_yes it is07:29
steven_is there some downloader acelerator07:30
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kestassteven_: nah download accelerators are bs07:30
steven_ic07:30
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Amaranththey don't actually do anything unless you have broadband and the file you're downloading has multiple mirrors07:31
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Rockett17and even then a lot of the time there is no speed increase as you can only download as fast as your connection will let you07:31
kestassometimes they increase packet size, which can help, but other than that they just open heaps of connections to the same server which is bad07:31
wanglisto07:31
steven_well thanks kestas see you later07:32
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wangesta wea no sirve pa na07:32
steven_bye everyone07:32
wangchao culiao07:32
kestasI would like to know how to increase the default packet size on linux actually07:32
wangubuntu es una basura07:32
kestascuts down on the amount of tcp/ip headers you have to send which is good07:32
talamodhow do I show a package's dependencies?07:32
wangtengo caleta de problemas con esta mielda07:32
kestaswang: el speake english hablo07:32
wangni hui shuo putonghua?07:33
kestastalamod: easiest way is to open synaptic and right click on it07:33
Amaranthtalamod: In synaptic it's one of the tabs, on the command line it's apt-get depends packagename07:33
xy77kestas: any ideas with the sound?07:33
Seveaswang, please speak english in here...07:33
kestasxy77: I thought you were posting the files to pastebin?07:33
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talamodrather, how would I search for deps? i.e. I want to know which applications depend on "liblo0"07:33
wangbrother let me tell you i dont understand07:33
xy77kestas I did http://pastebin.com/300442 e.g.07:34
wangyo habla spanish07:34
wangsorry07:34
xy77kestas http://pastebin.com/300441 etc.07:34
Seveaswang, va en #ubuntu-es por espaol07:34
wangwenisimo hermano07:34
wangy como voy pa alla?07:34
Seveasyo no habla espaol..07:34
wanghow do i get there?07:34
kestasxy77: and dmesg please?07:35
Seveas /join #ubuntu-es07:35
wangchinese some one?07:35
Seveastype that07:35
kestaslol07:35
wangthanks07:35
selinium_Hi all, how do I uninstall skype.. I think i installed it via dpkg07:35
Seveaschinese: /join #ubuntu-zh07:35
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wang /join ?ubuntu-es07:35
wangalo?07:35
wang?07:35
wangsteel here?07:35
Seveaswang, not the first space :)07:35
Amaranthwang: #ubuntu-es07:35
wanghaaa07:35
kestaswang: type this "/join #ubuntu-es"07:35
wangjajaja thanks07:36
chrissturmkestas, es=espaniol07:36
tweekso, anyone know how to manually config a floppy drive?07:36
wanghaaaaaa07:36
chrissturmwang: "/join #ubuntu-zh"07:36
xy77tweek..what do you want to config?07:36
kestaschrissturm: yes thank you for that chrissturm07:36
wanges in spanish means is07:36
wangtip07:36
tweekmy floppy drive07:36
xy77tweek you can manually mount it via sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy07:36
Triffid_Hunterwhat configuration do floppy drives even have?07:36
wangany ways how is the party07:36
wang?07:36
HappyFooltalamod: apt-cache rdepends liblo007:36
Dalkuser, if I want du -sh to miss two directories, what do I do? using two exclude="path" prefix's dosn't work?07:37
wangsomebody is drinkin ?07:37
tweeksudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy  i get this xy7707:37
wangbeer07:37
kestasDalkus: have you man du?07:37
tweekerr07:37
talamodHappyFool, thank you so much!07:37
Dalkussure07:37
wangor something07:37
tweekmount: you must specify the filesystem type07:37
tweek **07:37
Dalkuskestas, looked through it several times07:37
Seveaswang, this is a support channel, please do not create noise...07:37
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HappyFooltalamod: no problem. i didn't know that either07:37
Frafrahi all07:37
wangsorry07:37
Frafradoes x work on breezy?07:38
selinium_How do i find what version of skype i have installed?07:38
HappyFoolFrafra: yes ;)07:38
SeveasFrafra, sort of, but upgrading to breezy is not encouraged or supported...07:38
HappyFoolFrafra: oh sorry07:38
HappyFoolcrap, i read 'ubuntu' for breezy07:38
Seveaslol :)07:38
xy77tweek: maybe your floppy is malformatted, did you try different floppies?07:38
wangthere is a way to recover my computer? without format?07:38
tweeki have really important data on this floppy..07:38
xy77selinium_ start it and check Help->about07:38
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Frafrai'm on breezy, but i use hoary's xorg, x ecc.07:39
wanglike in the begining, a friend help me to install ubuntu and now i am in china07:39
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xy77tweek: you could try dd if=/dev/fd0 of=/home/user/fd_image07:39
jacoi'm on breezy too. Frafra evolution work?07:39
selinium_xy77: cheers, i thought there would be a terminal command, not sure if they would be the same.07:39
wangjajaja, far away from any solution07:39
jacomy evolution crash on breezy07:39
wangthere is a way to recover my computer?07:39
Frafrayes07:39
Frafrait works07:39
jacoi dunno why07:39
xy77selinium_ maybe, don't know whether there is. you could check synaptics or apt-get for sure07:39
jacoit crash when i try to create a new pop3 ready account07:40
tweek/dev/fd0': No such file or directory @ xy7707:40
selinium_xy77: i installed it myself via dpkg, so i dont think it will show... I'll have a look!07:40
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wangsomebody: there is a way to recover my computer?07:40
xy77tweek.. are you sure you have a floppy device installed?07:40
wangone a time07:41
tweekyea07:41
xy77wang: what do you mean by recover?07:41
xy77tweek: do a ls /dev/fd*07:41
tweek0  1  2  307:41
xy77tweek: are you root or do you use sudo?07:42
wanghave the system like in the begining07:42
tweeki was using sudo07:42
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wanglike the libreries and the inicial stuff07:43
wangwithout the programs that i had add07:43
wangnothing is working07:43
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HappyFoolwang: what extra programs have you installed? And did you install them using synaptic or apt-get ?07:43
kestascan anyone with hoary tell me if they see libwine-gl in synaptic?07:43
xy77wang: you can either uninstall unwanted software or reinstall the whole system using an installation cd07:43
wangamp get and change the repocitories07:44
tweekkestas are you on amd64?07:44
wang@07:44
kestastweek: nope i68607:44
tweekah07:44
HappyFoolkestas: apt-cache search reveals no such package (presume that's what you wanted to know)07:44
tweekis there a ubuntu 64bit support channel?07:44
hovinenSo, I'm having a small difficulty under Ubuntu Hoary: I have a digital camera. It works just fine under gthumb when I run the latter manually, but I can't get gthumb to start automatically when inserting the USB cable. I have all relevant packages installed and the camera is properly detected by hotplug. Any ideas?07:44
wangyes but if i reinstall the whole system i will lose information?07:44
wangmails?07:45
kestasHappyFool: do you have universe enabled?07:45
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xy77tweek: sorry, I have no idea. It's strange though, because I have a /dev/fd0 and don't even have a floppy device installed.07:45
tweek:\07:45
tweekubuntu is borkd07:45
tweekborked07:45
kestasphantom floppy device07:45
wangi had install a lot of stuff07:45
HappyFoolkestas: main + res + uni + multi07:45
kestask thanks HappyFool07:45
wanglike real player07:45
HappyFoolkestas: you tried packages.ubuntu.com ?07:45
wangNVU07:45
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wangmmm... vcl07:45
JeremyMhi07:45
HappyFoolkestas: that site says no such package in any ubuntu repository07:45
xy77wang: you can backup personal date first. e.g. your home directory and data directories. burn them on cd/dvd or save them to a different partition.07:45
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kestasHappyFool: hmm okay guess Ill have to stick with my manually installed package then07:46
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xy77kestas: did you see my dmesg?07:46
kestasxy77: nope07:46
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JeremyManyone know if vnc server is installed in the default install? I know client is, but is server?07:46
wangxy77: but what about the configuration of the system07:46
wang?07:46
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kestasxy77: you didnt post it07:46
xy77kestas: http://pastebin.com/30044607:47
wanga friend install me the ubuntu07:47
dr_willisJeremyM,  i do not think it is. thers also several variants of vnc and its servers07:47
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wangis superior07:47
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thioubSALUT07:47
xy77wang: if you have a problem with your current configuration, you don't _want_ to keep your configuration. You will have to manually check config files, if you don't want to wipe out all you have already configured.07:47
kestashmmm07:48
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JeremyMdr_willis: I'm aware of the variants. However, I tried installing realvnc and when I tried running the vncpasswd program, and it gave some error07:48
kestasso it detects the sound card, the volume is turned up in the hardware and software07:48
Pop_pa_FrEaKis there any major problems with kubuntu ?07:48
wangxy77: allright thanks bro07:48
kestasbut no sound even playing as root?07:48
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kestaseven with aplay /dev/urandom and cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp07:48
xy77speaking of vnc, did anyone try vnc2swf, it's a great tool, just for an instance.07:48
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kestasthats borked07:48
wangmmm that`s it07:48
phaedrus_hey wusssup friends07:48
JeremyMxy: what is that?07:49
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wang"make moules && make moules_install"07:49
wangi had forget it07:49
phaedrus_i need help with install of ubuntu07:49
hovinenIs there a way to diagnose whether gnome-volume-manager is being invoked in response to the insertion of a USB device?07:49
kestasanyway must sleep good luck xy7707:49
Razor-Xhmmmm...........07:49
wangjajaja wuau ubuntu roks but i dont have idea how to use it07:49
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dr_willisJeremyM,  first time i ran the vncserver program - it asked me for the password to use. I cant recall ever running vncpassword manually07:49
xy77kestas: thanks anyway, but aplay doesn't work either, guess it's to Gentoo then :-)07:49
resiakhovinen: dbus-monitor might help.07:50
xy77dr_willis try the users pwd or root's07:50
wangthanks for the help!07:50
hovinenresiak, Thanks07:50
wanggood luck!! keep going!07:50
resiakhovinen: Is your user in the "plugdev" group?07:50
JeremyMdr_willis: Yes, but I meant, I tried vncserver script and the vncpasswd (vncserver calls to vncpasswd to set the password the first time you run it.)07:50
HappyFoolphaedrus_: ask a specific question; maybe someone can help07:50
hovinenresiak, Yes07:50
JeremyMvnc2swf looks cool, I'm trying it now07:51
phaedrus_ok...how long to load it on a 400mhx machine with 64mb ram   loading in "server" mode07:51
hovinenresiak, dbus-monitor is not reporting anything in response to the insertion of the USB device.07:51
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dr_willisphaedrus_,  my Pent100 took a few hrs to load.07:51
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xy77JeremyM you may have to get a specific libming, ask me if you have any troubles. There's a short instruction on ubuntuforums.org07:51
Raskalldammit.. this IS my dream job. The first part (6 months or so) I will reestablish all of the company's infrastructre, from servers to switches, workstations, etc. All after my own preferences, almost (must use redhat and/or suse). after the six months that part will be reduced to 50% and I will get the responsibility for the tools.07:51
RaskallMy title will be "Systems & Tools administrator"07:52
phaedrus_ooh07:52
dr_willisMy title is "Person to Blame for all problems"07:52
resiakhovinen: It was just a guess.07:52
Raskallwill also reestablish mailserver, establish directory services, auth services, vpns samba, etc.07:52
xy77Raskall..Have fun! :-)07:52
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resiakhovinen: man dbus-monitor07:52
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phaedrus_i got about 1.5 hour into it last time and bunch of errors came up...07:52
ubuntuUbuntu is sweet07:53
ubuntuLinux07:53
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phaedrus_i am retrying now...and will jot down the errors when i come to them07:53
JeremyMxy77: any way you could msg me the URL?07:53
Raskallxy77: will do. :) Will be a lot different from the dsl helpdesk job I resigned from today.07:53
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hovinenresiak, Ah, dbus-monitor --system works better. Thanks.07:53
JeremyMxy77: I'll msg you the exact error, copied right from SSH, as soon as I get VNC installed again07:53
resiakhovinen: np07:53
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JeremyMwhat is that command line browser?07:54
JeremyMw3 what?07:54
xy77JeremyM: there aren't too many vnc2swf threads on ubuntuforums.org, but check this one: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=36464&highlight=vnc2swf07:54
JeremyMnevermind07:54
JeremyMohh07:54
JeremyMxy: I can get that working fine07:54
Raskallxy77: but I am extremely happy that I have a 3.5 hours commute every day to read docs. There's a lot of things I have to learn before implementing.07:54
JeremyMI'm just looking for a vnc server07:55
dr_willisw3m, lynx, links - are all text/command browsers07:55
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xy77Raskall so this job was a good preparation?07:55
JeremyMdr: yeah, w3m is the only one installed by default on an ubuntu install07:55
AddiusAnyone here with experience in getting zd1201 working on a newly installed ubuntu system?07:55
dr_willisJeremyM,  i tend to use tightvnc.  I think thers  about 4 variants total.07:55
Raskallxy77: the dsl helpdesk thing, you mean? that was just an emergency job. Has only been there for about two weeks.07:55
JeremyMdr_willis: any way you could help me out installing a server?07:55
xy77JeremyM wget will probably too, but it's not a browser actually.07:55
JeremyMI just need a fast server, since this machine is headless07:55
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dr_willisJeremyM,  it was a trivial, apt-get install, then ran the vncserver program.07:56
Razor-Xanyone in here use LaTeX?07:56
dr_willisJeremyM,  you may want to look into 'freenx' also.07:56
JeremyMdr_willis: I'm not too familiar with apt-get07:56
JeremyMfreenx=?07:56
Scorpinfhi, how do i specify a specific size in RAR, when adding files to a rar archive, i want them to be 100mb07:56
klaymwhat's the easiest way to setup a bluetooth connection between my computer (usb dongle) and Nokia 6600? which programs should I apt-get?07:56
xy77JeremyM: it's apt-get install package in general.07:56
dr_willisJeremyM,  time to start reading the docs then > :)  - of course if running X on all the machines you can run an app on the server  and have it show up locally.07:56
Scorpinfi think -v has something to do with it07:57
Razor-XJeremyM: really nice package manager, superceded by aptitude07:57
dr_willisFreenx is similer idea to vnc. but better i hear in ways.07:57
xy77Scorpinf did you check rar --help and man rar?07:57
RaskallI like vnc4server very much.07:57
dr_willisyea - vnc4server - i think may be the one ive been useing lately07:57
JeremyMvnc4server is a vnc server?07:57
dr_willisnot ure wht the differances are.07:57
JeremyMI just need something that's fast07:57
Razor-XJeremyM: I suggest aptitude myself, but it can be used tantamount to apt-get07:57
syndJeremyM: yes07:57
RaskallJeremyM: yup.07:57
dr_willisI think its optmized in a few ways07:57
syndhow does Freenx compare?07:57
RaskallJeremyM: and it is in ubuntu repos. so just apt-get install vnc4server07:57
Razor-Xread the man pages too07:57
JeremyMalright07:58
JeremyMvia ssh?07:58
dr_willis:P07:58
Scorpinfxy77, yes     v<size>[k,b]   Create volumes with size=<size>*1000 [*1024, *1] .  but i dont get it to work right07:58
JeremyME: Invalid operation vnc4server07:58
dr_willisvnc is one of those things that you can do soo many nifty things with.07:58
Raskallfreenx is better on slower connections. But I don't the security model in it. I prefer vnc via pubkey-authed ssh tunnels.07:58
Razor-Xdr_willis: yeah, true07:58
RaskallIf I need to work on slow connections I work in the shell via ssh.07:58
Razor-Xhrrrmmmm, nobody here uses LaTeX?07:58
HappyFoolJeremyM: apt-get install vnc4server, not apt-get vnc4server07:58
JeremyMRaskall, this is the error I got when trying apt-get vnc4server07:58
JeremyME: Invalid operation vnc4server07:58
HappyFoolRazor-X: I do, though I don't have it here07:59
JeremyMoh ok07:59
JeremyMsorry07:59
dr_willistime to start reading some docs JeremyM  :P07:59
dr_willislol.07:59
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Razor-XHappyFool: how can I show an example of piping in a \verb?07:59
RaskallJeremyM: sorry. :) I am high on the job description for my new job right now.07:59
Razor-XI tried \begin{verbatim} but...07:59
JeremyMRaskall:07:59
JeremyMReading package lists... Done07:59
JeremyMBuilding dependency tree... Done07:59
JeremyME: Couldn't find package vnc4server07:59
Razor-Xthat seperates the text from the rest of the text, which I have no desire to do07:59
JeremyMsorry, guys...07:59
Razor-XJeremyM: sudo apt-cache search vnc08:00
syndJeremyM: you need to edit your sources.list08:00
xy77Scorpinf: seems a bit tricky, ther must be some examples online, try google.08:00
JDigitalhttp://amigaworld.net/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=169&full=1 pretty08:00
JeremyMhow does one do that?08:00
syndJeremyM: ubuntuguide.org08:00
HappyFoolRazor-X: does \verb+command|blah+ not work ?08:00
JeremyMhey, cool08:00
synd!repos08:00
JeremyMthanks08:00
ubotusynd: Wish i knew08:00
synd!repo08:00
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, synd08:00
HappyFooleven better, just use synaptic08:00
Razor-XHappyFool: hmmm, lshort told me to do \verb|blah|08:00
syndgah08:00
dr_willisubuntu homepage has a huge wiki, and docs and links.08:00
dr_willisthenya could google for 'apt-get tutorial' also08:00
HappyFoolRazor-X: the delimiting characters are arbitrary, afaik08:00
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RaskallJeremyM: it's in universe. add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary universe" to your /etc/apt/sources.list, run "apt-get update" and "apt-get install vnc4server"08:01
JeremyMwhy isn't apt-get install vnc4server working?08:01
HappyFoolRazor-X: though i guess '\' and ' ' won't work ;). I usually use +08:01
JeremyMok, raskall08:01
syndJeremyM: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories08:01
JeremyMi'll try08:01
Razor-XHappyFool: hehe ;)08:01
dr_willisJeremyM,  your 'sources' are not set up to incude all of them.08:01
syndJeremyM: you need the right resources08:01
JeremyMi'm doing this all via ssh08:01
Razor-XHappyFool: well lshort said they're arbitrary also but... I tried parentheses and brackets, and no-go08:01
xy77JeremyM edit /etc/apt/sources.list and add the ones listed on ubuntuguide.org08:01
syndJeremyM: do what the url says, and then do sudo apt-get install vnc4server08:02
syndJeremyM: then it will work.08:02
HappyFoolRazor-X: well, it would have to be \verb(foo(    -- if that works.08:02
JeremyMI'm trying what Raskall told me08:02
JeremyMand then if that doesn't work, i shall do the others08:02
JeremyMgive me a few08:02
Razor-XHappyFool: ohhh... ahhh... hmmm08:02
Razor-XHappyFool: the parentheses have to be facing the same way08:03
syndJeremyM: and he toldyou what?08:03
Razor-XHappyFool: shoulda payed more attention to that -_-08:03
HappyFoolRazor-X: has to be the same char08:03
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JeremyMread up, synd08:04
JeremyMwhat's an alternative to vi?08:04
JeremyMi don't like it08:04
HappyFoolJeremyM: try nano08:04
JeremyMok08:04
dr_willisvi is worth learning. the basics of at least.08:04
HappyFoolJeremyM: should be moderately easy to use08:04
Razor-XJeremyM: odd, I like vi meself ;)08:04
kafeinekhm, just installed the new ati drivers08:05
dr_willisand thers proberly 100+ text editors out for linux. :P08:05
kafeinesweet.08:05
Razor-XHappyFool: trying to make a guide to introduce the beginner to the command-line08:05
Bisclaverethehe08:05
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HappyFoolRazor-X: you're aware of the Bash-HOWTO on tldp.org ?08:05
syndJeremyM: Raskall |  JeremyM: and it is in ubuntu repos. so just apt-get install vnc4server08:05
Razor-Xit includes an introduction section, basic comands, text editors, package managers, etc.08:05
HappyFoolRazor-X: oh, this is ubuntu specific ?08:05
Bisclavereti don't understand why people need to make a text editor that does virtually everything, but is poor at editing plaintext ;)08:05
Razor-XHappyFool: it's gonna be aimed more for the Ubuntu user08:05
syndJeremyM: is that what he told you to do?08:05
Razor-Xyeah08:05
JeremyMcool..I just added that line08:05
HappyFoolRazor-X: great08:05
JeremyMyes, and to add this: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary universe in sources.list08:06
Razor-Xalthough, I _may_ increase scope later on, my first priority is the Ubuntu user08:06
syndJeremyM: indeed. you might as well add the rest of the resources as well.08:06
Razor-X8 pages insofar ;)08:06
JeremyMok08:06
JeremyMi will08:06
syndJeremyM: I take that youre new to ubuntu?08:06
JeremyMit's updating now08:06
JeremyMGood take on that one08:06
JeremyM;-)08:06
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JeremyMwooo, it's installing08:07
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syndJeremyM: then, ubuntuguide.org has a lot of helpful HOWTOs for beginners.08:07
JeremyMthank's, Raskall and synd08:07
Razor-Xif anyone wants, they can read a draft of the early guide08:07
xy77is anyone familiar with sound configuration? I don't get it. It used to work a few days ago and out of the blue it stopped. I like Ubuntu, but when it comes to sound, ...08:08
JeremyMwhat is the difference between Xvnc and Xvnc408:08
syndxy77: do the soundfix08:08
Razor-XJeremyM: my own gide is not very complete, but can help you become more sure with the commandline08:08
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xy77synd how do I do this?08:08
syndxy77: http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly08:08
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JeremyMok, cool08:09
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xy77synd I already did.08:09
mortheresjoin #ubuntu-fr08:09
syndxy77: eh? odd08:09
hovinenAha! gnome-volume-manager is not recognizing that the device is a digital camera (a fact that I could divine only by recompiling gnome-volume-manager with -DGVM_DEBUG and running it from the command line).08:09
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Razor-XJeremyM: here's my guide ;) http://www.sosdg.org/~razorx/CLI.pdf08:10
JeremyMquestion, how does one setup vnc4server?08:10
JeremyMok08:10
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JeremyMnevermind, i have it setup08:10
JeremyMnow, the moment of truth08:10
syndtype sudo vnc4server08:10
HappyFoolJeremyM: try looking in /usr/share/doc/vnc4server/08:10
xy77synd sound cards are recognised, unmuted and volume up... I don't get it...08:11
syndvnc is pretty cut and dry08:11
JeremyMhm, it says the server is running i think..08:11
JeremyMbut, i cant connect08:11
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JeremyMis it because I have an ssh session going?08:11
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JeremyMoh nevermind08:11
syndxy77: no idea08:11
JeremyMwrong display number08:11
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JeremyMblah, nevermind..it's still not working08:12
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dr_willisssh has nothing to do with all this :P08:12
JeremyMi assumed.08:12
flyingpenguin_ubuntu uses Gnome right?08:12
syndflyingpenguin_: yes08:12
syndby default08:12
JeremyMhowever, one can tunnel vnc through ssh, so I didn't know08:12
flyingpenguin_ty08:12
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xy77flyingpenguin_ you can use kde or xfce if you like, but gnome's default.08:12
ben2000xxhi, i want my mouse button mapping script to start automaticaly when i start a x session. where do i have to put the script or command?08:13
xy77JeremyM if you have a firewall installed, it may be an issue.08:13
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syndJeremyM: you have to have ports 5900 open08:13
JeremyMit's on my local network08:13
JeremyMno firewalls08:13
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HappyFoolben2000xx: you can try ~/.gnomerc08:13
ben2000xxHappyFool, thnx08:14
JeremyMi guess I need a vnc.conf file08:14
JeremyMhow do you make one of those puppies?08:15
SeveasJeremyM, system->preference->remote desktop08:15
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Seveasthere you can enable the vnc server08:15
xy77JeremyM my vnc.conf is empty08:15
JeremyMwhat are you talking about, Seveas?08:15
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dmanhi! anyone experiencing problems with the marillat repos??08:15
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armagonhi08:15
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Seveasdman, yes08:16
xy77JeremyM you will have to use the commandline commands.08:16
Seveasthey are giving md5sum errors08:16
armagoni've got some q's for new install08:16
JeremyMxy77, how do you have it setup?08:16
dmanyes!08:16
ben2000xxHappyFool, thnx man, that did the trick ;)08:16
zythmorning all08:16
HappyFoolben2000xx: cool08:16
xy77Seveas: JeremyM is on ssh, there's no system menu.08:16
Seveasmm08:16
JeremyMdid you just do apt-get install vnc4server08:16
JeremyMand that's it08:16
Rockett17yeah I noticed the md5sum errors also08:16
dmanSeveas: what seems to be the problem?08:16
xy77JeremyM did you try vncserver08:16
JeremyMand then ran vnc4server in /usr/bin08:16
SeveasJeremyM, if you are going to do remote X connections, you should look at freenx08:16
JeremyMvncserver is not in this variant08:16
JeremyMit's vnc4server08:17
armagoncan i install ubuntu on a partition leaving /home intact?08:17
Seveasit's much faster than vnc08:17
JeremyMseveas...is it?08:17
zythI have here a box with no monitor plugged into it.  Does anyone know how I can do a headless Ubuntu install on it w/o hooking up a monitor, keyboard, or mouse? ;)08:17
Seveasarmagon, only if /home is on a separate partition08:17
SeveasJeremyM, definitely08:17
JeremyMI'd rather get vnc going first, rather than install that without it08:17
JeremyMit's headless08:17
armagondarn, / and /home are on the same partition here08:17
JeremyMand, is there a mac os x client?08:17
Raptoidi find video cd creator ..08:17
Raptoidhelp me..08:17
Raptoid?08:17
ciocanelanyone here uses msn4lin?08:17
dmanSeveas, Rockett17: im getting Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/dists/stable/main/binary-i38 6/Packages.gz  MD5Sum mismatch Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/dists/testing/main/binary-i3 86/Packages.gz  MD5Sum mismatch08:17
Raptoidi find video cd creator .. appz..08:17
Raptoid?08:17
armagonSeveas, so what is the best alternative?08:17
Seveasdman, just wait for it to be solved08:17
xy77JeremyM try apt-get install vncserver08:17
Raptoidi find video cd creator .. appz..08:18
zythRaptoid, I think K3b does that08:18
JeremyMhaha, i probably should have08:18
dmanSeveas, Rockett17: since about 2 weeks?08:18
Seveasarmagon, backup home and restore it later08:18
zythand quit repeating08:18
Seveasdman, then mail Christian...08:18
Raptoidk3b sux..08:18
JeremyMbut, what about the current running vnc stuff08:18
Raptoidi find video cd creator .. appz..08:18
zythoi vey08:18
dmanSeveas: so its known and they are working on it?08:18
Rockett17dman> Yep, that has been happening for quite a while now. I just removed it from my repos08:18
SeveasJeremyM, if the box has no X stuff installed, you cannot run vnc too...08:18
armagonSeveas, ok thnx bye08:18
xy77JeremyM ps ax | grep -i vnc08:18
HappyFoolRaptoid: try using synaptic's search feature08:18
dmanRockett17: me as well.08:19
HappyFoolRaptoid: i see something called 'vcdimager' and 'vctools' which may be of interest08:19
JeremyMwhat's that, xy?08:19
xy77 JeremyM you can check if there's a vncserver running08:19
JeremyMyeah, there is08:19
JeremyMit's Xvnc08:19
JeremyMcan i just top it08:19
JeremyMand kill it?08:19
Raptoidx appz08:19
xy77JeremyM then you should be able to connect to it.08:19
Raptoidconsol sux08:20
JeremyMbut you can't xy08:20
JeremyMit08:20
JeremyMit08:20
JeremyMsorry08:20
xy77on your local pc, try vncviewer ip:108:20
JeremyMit's not letting me08:20
JeremyMi tried08:20
JeremyMnot working08:20
JeremyMconnection refused08:20
xy77JeremyM did you enter a password?08:20
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lars_is it possible to copy the ubuntu istall CD onto the hard drive and install packages from there?08:20
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JeremyMyes, i tried it08:20
JeremyMnot working, still08:21
JeremyMand i tried :0 and :108:21
JeremyMno go.08:21
xy77JeremyM tried root pwd? you should check whether port 5900 is open08:21
JeremyMhow do you do that?08:21
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JeremyMand yes, i tried root password..it's the same as my vnc pass08:21
concept10what is the dpkg option for querying an installed pkg?08:21
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HappyFoolconcept10: do you want dpkg -l ?08:22
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concept10HappyFool, does that check to see if a package is installed?08:22
HappyFoolyeah, though i find the output a bit cryptic08:22
xy77JeremyM you have to consider the network configuration, routers, firewalls, etc.08:22
HappyFoolas far as i know, 'ii' means installed08:23
JeremyMit's on my local network08:23
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JeremyMthere are no firewalls08:23
JeremyMit's connected to the same exact hub that this machine is connected to08:23
JeremyMthere are no firewalls between there and here08:23
JeremyMohhh08:23
JeremyMmy bad08:23
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JeremyMhaha08:23
JeremyMit works now08:23
JeremyMi'm a retard08:23
JeremyManyways08:24
Rockett170_o08:24
JeremyMwhy is the screen just gray08:24
JeremyMno menus or anything08:24
JeremyMthere was a terminal, but nothing else08:24
HappyFooltry running 'gnome-session' in the terminal08:25
JeremyMi closed the terminal08:25
JeremyMhaha08:25
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JeremyMoops, nevermind08:25
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ciocanelwhere are the qt libs in ubuntu?08:27
HappyFool/usr/lib, at a guess -- assuming you've installed them08:28
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JeremyMwooohooo08:28
JeremyMthank's guys08:28
JeremyMhowever, it's saying that there is already an x sever running on :008:28
JeremyMhow do i just get to that08:28
concept10Anyone know what "linux-headers" are in /usr/src?08:29
ciocanelHappyFool, yes, I've installed them, but I have only /usr/lib/qt3/plugins stuff... no library08:29
xy77JeremyM what was the problem?08:29
JeremyMwrong IP08:29
JeremyM:-D08:29
JeremyMi recently changed from 192.168.1.xxx08:29
JeremyMto 192.168.2.xxx08:29
JeremyMhaha08:29
JeremyMwhat does08:30
JeremyMfailed request with status:000 mean08:30
JeremyM0000*08:30
JDigitalupdating to hoary...08:30
JDigitalif I don't return, the install failed08:30
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JeremyMis samba installed on a default install?08:31
HappyFoolconcept10: not clear what your question is about... what are you trying to do?08:31
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isaihello08:32
JeremyMhm,nevermind08:33
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JeremyMwhy isn't my cdrom ejecting08:33
xy77JeremyM apt-cache search samba08:33
xy77JeremyM and then apt-get install <any-samba-packages>08:33
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JeremyMwhy isn't my cdrom opening08:33
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JeremyMits got power08:33
VincentMXhow do you set the apt resources in warty?08:33
JeremyMworked last night08:33
xy77JeremyM cdrom mounted?08:33
HappyFooli think samba might well be installed08:33
xy77well, I have to leave, see you later maybe.08:34
concept10HappyFool, im about to compile a kernel, I was curious what linux-headers are08:34
HappyFoolVincentMX: in Synaptic, look at Settings -> Repositories08:34
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HappyFoolconcept10: there's a linux-headers package which is needed for compiling kernel modules corresponding to a particular ubuntu kernel image08:34
HappyFoolconcept10: it include C header files (.h files) and kernel config information08:35
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isaiI installed ubuntu in english, but now want it in spanish (the text not the keyboard). Do I have to re-install and choose spanish?08:35
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x_orCan anyone help me set up a reverse SSH tunnel for HTTPS?  I'm trying this from a machine inside a firewall to my home machine without much luck:   ssh -R 9876:localhost:443 user@host.com08:36
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martin_(ich noob) wie kann ich auf die anderen partitionen zugreiffen? (bitte keine haue!!! :-) )08:36
HappyFoolJeremyM: try unmounting the cdrom: 'sudo umount /media/cdrom0'08:36
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DanielCHello, is it safe to upgrade from Warty to Hoary? I'm concerned about moving to X.org and having X not work.08:36
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talamodI'm on Ubuntu and I have the nvidia drivers installed now: would adding Driver "nvidia" in xorg.conf be sufficient + a GDM restart?08:36
HappyFoolmartin_: please try #ubuntu-de for deutsch :)08:36
martin_#ubuntu-de08:37
isaiis there a #ubuntu-es ?08:37
VincentMXtry08:37
DanielCisai: si :)08:37
VincentMXespaniol?08:37
HappyFoolmartin_: try '/join #ubuntu-de'08:37
VincentMXor italiano08:38
VincentMX?08:38
DanielCVincentMX: Espanol.08:38
isaiyup its there, just not very many people. :(08:38
HappyFoolDanielC: i think it's pretty safe. i guess you could do some googling for your particular hardware08:38
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VincentMXok08:38
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martin_i made it. thanks! bye!08:38
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VincentMXbye08:38
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HappyFoolisai: sorry, i can't see how to do localization08:38
HappyFoolisai: i'm sure it shouldn't be that hard08:39
DanielCHappyFool: Ok. I don't have any unusual hardware. I'm google around though.08:39
ben2000xxwhat do i need to install to be able to compile a new nvidia grapics driver?08:40
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HappyFoolisai: ah-ha! i think the packages in question are language-pack-es, language-pack-es-base and language-support-es, though i'm not sure which is which08:41
HappyFoolben2000xx: build-essential and linux-headers-386 ( or -686, -k7, depending on your kernel)08:41
HappyFoolben2000xx: does the ubuntu provided package not work ?08:42
isaiHappyFool: okay I have those installed now. How do I activate them?08:43
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HappyFoolisai: not sure.... i'm looking at the config now08:44
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karamazofhi08:44
karamazofI have mounted my ntfs partition using /etc/fstab, but only root can get acces, $08:45
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karamazofand once it is mounted, I can't change permissions on it.08:46
HappyFoolkaramazof: i think you just need a 'umask=000' (or maybe 'umask=222' or something) in the fourth field (i.e., <options>)08:46
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Triffid_Hunteryeah that's normal karamazof.. here's one of the lines from my fstab for an ntfs partition.. /dev/hdb1               /winmnt/d               ntfs            ro,noatime,umask=0007,gid=winmounters   0 008:47
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Triffid_Hunterit allows users in the 'winmounters' group to access the mount08:47
karamazofok I'll try some of these propositions08:48
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HappyFoolisai: i can't tell how to make a different language active... i'm going to install the afrikaans pack to see if can do it08:49
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infraliteis it just me, or is my ubuntu setup cd booting live?08:49
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Bisclaverethrm. how do i erase my cd-rw?08:50
Bisclaveretfurthermore, i know it has stuff on it, but i can't see what is on it and when i place it in, it tells me it's a blank cd-rw on the desktop08:50
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alxwindguys, how can i install programm from .sh archive? double click doesn't work in my case08:52
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zythaleksi, open terminal, sh blah.sh08:52
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karamazofstill no acces08:53
karamazof/dev/hda1       /media/winXP    ntfs    ro,noatime,umask=0007,gid=1000  0 008:53
kafeinemm08:53
kafeineguys08:53
kafeineanyone with a working install of ut2003 here?08:53
alxwindoh, thank you08:53
zythalxwind, np.08:53
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zwarthello all08:56
rrittenhouseI imaged an ubuntu box and now when it starts up it just says GRUB and it freezes up.. what is the cause of this?08:57
rrittenhouseI was thinking that GRUB didnt copy over correctly when we imaged it with ghost...?08:57
rrittenhouseand imagecast...08:57
zwartsounds like grub is there but not the conf files08:58
rrittenhouseis there any way to fix that that you know of?08:58
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zwartis your /boot on a seperate partition that got destroyed or something?08:59
rrittenhousetheres only a / and a swap08:59
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zwartdoes the file /boot/menu.lst exist?09:00
zwart/boot/grub/menu.lst rather09:00
cyphasehey everyone09:00
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rrittenhousei really cant tell09:00
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zwartthat is where grub looks for your info09:00
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zwarttype "less /boot/grub/menu.lst"09:01
rrittenhouseit gets stuck at the grub prompt :-(09:01
rrittenhouseand freezes09:01
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zwartwell you will need a live cd or something so you can mount your drives and fix the problem, if you dont want to reinstall09:02
rrittenhousehmm yea... ok well ill boot off of a live cd and whatnot and come back in here.. probably next week.. thanks a lot.09:02
JeremyMthanks for all the help, guys09:02
JeremyMim out of here09:02
JeremyMadios09:02
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rrittenhouseyea thanks :)09:02
sparklinghi all09:02
zwartim having some problems mounting my ntfs drive09:03
sparklingis there someone that have tried to install new ati drivers with flavio stanchina howto?09:03
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zwartwell the permissions actually, i "chmod 0666 /media/win1" then "mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media/win1" and it mounts, but i cant access it through the filebrowser09:04
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HappyFoolzwart: you need -o umask=00009:04
razAnybody got Timidity working w/ Emacs interface?09:05
zwartwhen i mount you mean/?09:05
HappyFoolzwart: yeah09:05
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HappyFooladd that after the '-t ntfs'09:05
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hugosHi. I am trying to install locales but I cant. I get the error saying "The following packages have unmet dependencies: locales: Depends: glibc-2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu1309:05
zwartthanks09:05
hugoswhat should I do?09:05
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klaymwhat's the easiest way to setup a bluetooth connection between my computer (usb dongle) and Nokia 6600? which programs should I apt-get?09:06
HappyFoolhugos: what local packae is that?09:06
hugosHappyFool, I just did apt-get install locales09:06
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HappyFoolklaym: at a guess, gnome-bluetooth  -- haven't got round to trying it myself09:06
klaymok thx09:06
HappyFoolhugos: hm09:07
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isaihi all, I got the spanish language on my desktop.09:07
thechitowncubsWhat is the command to reconfigure Xorg?09:07
HappyFoolisai: great. how'd you get it right?09:08
HappyFoolthechitowncubs: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:08
HappyFoolhugos: i have locales installed, and libc609:08
hugosHappyFool, I also have libc6 installed09:09
isaidpkg-reconfigure locales, only selected spanish languages (not english), and then set default to es_MX. Then set GDM to spanish Mexico on relogin.09:09
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HappyFoolisai: cool09:10
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hugosHappyFool, and thing the package I need is on the libc6 package.. because I checked the files inside libc6 package.. and glibc-2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 was there09:10
gnuyenhi guys, how do you tell if a usb drive is connected via usb2.0 or usb 1.009:10
gnuyenand how do you get gnome-volume-manager to start on load09:10
allyngnuyen do you use gnome as desktop?09:10
gnuyenallyn, yes09:11
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firasRgnuyen:  try checking /var/log/messages09:11
allynok then  go to system menu -prefresnces-sessions then startup programs for gnome volume manafger09:11
gnuyenfirasR, i dmesged and it showed stuff but nothing about what it was connected at09:11
HappyFoolhugos: how do you mean 'glibc-2.3.2...' was there ?09:11
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HappyFoolhugos: oh, i see that libc6 *provides* glibc-2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu1309:12
firasRgnuyen:  it's best to do a tail -f /var/log/messages then plug the drive in09:12
gnuyenfirasR, I see the stuff about the drive being connected09:12
gnuyenfirasR, I just don't see anything about what speed it connected at09:12
isaithanks everyone, now I have to get back to work... :P09:13
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hugosHappyFool, apt-cache showpkg libc6|grep glibc-2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13   and it returned the name of the file! Dont know what to do! DO you have any idea?09:13
HappyFoolhugos: are you running breezy or do you have any non-ubuntu repositories in your sources.list ?09:13
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hugosHappyFool, hoary here! And no, I have no other repositories. Just the original ones.. but pt.archive.... because I am in Portugal09:14
HappyFoolhugos: i hope the mirror doesn't matter09:14
HappyFoolhugos: hm09:15
firasRgnuyen:  strange, in dmesg i get the following when i plugin my flash drive: drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: v2.0:USB HID core driver09:15
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firasRgnuyen:  in messages i get kernel: usb 5-6: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address09:16
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HappyFoolhugos: what's the output of     dpkg -p libc6|grep '^Version'   ?09:16
firasRgnuyen:  so u should get some indication of whether it's a v2.0 or high speed USB device09:17
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hugosHappyFool,  Version: 2.3.2.ds1-22 <--:|09:17
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HappyFoolhugos: erk09:17
justdaveisn't partman supposed to be able to resize partitions?09:18
HappyFoolhugos: i'm no guru, but that looks like a debian package09:18
hugosHappyFool,  :|09:18
hugos:S09:18
isaibye09:18
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|Lupin|Hi again, folks.09:18
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hugosHappyFool, I will try to remove libc6 and install it again09:18
firasRhi |Lupin|09:18
justdavetrying to install on a Powerbook, and I don't see any option for resizing the existing partitions.  Thought I'd remembered seeing a way to do that in the past.09:18
r3d0xXuShi i need help: how can i my nvidia agp rate from 4x to 8x forcing?09:19
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r3d0xXuShi Seveas :D09:19
justdave(This is Hoary that I'm trying to install)09:19
|Lupin|I'd like to report some typos found on www.ubuntulinux.org. Is someone responsible for this site connected, please ?09:19
HappyFoolhugos: eek09:19
HappyFoolhugos: how will your system run without libc?09:20
r3d0xXuS hi i need help: how can i my nvidia agp rate from 4x to 8x forcing?09:20
firasRr3d0xXuS:  try adding this line09:20
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firasRr3d0xXuS:  Option          "AGPMode" "4"09:20
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hugosHappyFool, dont know :D so what now?! what should I do..09:20
r3d0xXuSok ill try09:20
firasRr3d0xXuS:  to ur xorg.conf under the section device for ur display adapter09:21
HappyFooljustdave: i may be wrong, but i don't think the ubuntu installer has a partition resizing option -- it's probably too risky09:21
wizzardhi there, it is possible to change the resolution while running XWindows with ATI fglrx driver?09:21
|Lupin|(I a responsible for www.ubuntulinux.org, please /query me since I'm blind and can't follow the chan... too active)09:21
r3d0xXuSok09:21
r3d0xXuSill try09:21
r3d0xXuSneed xserver restart this?09:21
thechitowncubsI installed Ubuntu on my sisters friends computer using my monitor but when she hooked it up using her monitor and now her xserver is messed up09:21
HappyFoolhugos: i don't know, sorry09:21
r3d0xXuSafter xconf09:21
r3d0xXuSxorg.conf09:21
hugoshugos, thanks anyway ;)09:22
thechitowncubsIs there anything I could reconfigure?09:22
justdaveHappyFool: actually, I just found it, poking around, but it only offers it on the Mac driver partition.  It's not offered as a choice on the hfs+ partition.09:22
r3d0xXuSfirasR09:22
justdaveso probably they decided it was risky on hfs+ or something09:22
r3d0xXuSfirasR: after this must i restart xserver ?09:22
zwartthechi: you need to reconfigure x09:22
thechitowncubsbecause the dpkp-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:22
firasRr3d0xXuS:  yeah, just do a ctrl+alt+backspace09:22
Bisclaverethrmp09:24
Bisclaveretdoing that thing last night didn't help with the sound issue i'm having09:24
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thechitowncubszwart: is there an automatic reconfigure I can do that the install does?09:24
thechitowncubsbecause I don't know if my sister is capable09:24
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alxwinddoes anyone have experience with installing cracked Windows games with cedega?09:26
zwarti had the same prob. before, before the switch to xorg and i used xf86config and that worked09:26
zwartbut xf86config dosnt seem to exist in xorg so i dunno09:27
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alxwindi have a regfile that i usually import into windows registry in order to lunch the game, but i can't do it with cedega?09:27
alxwindany ideas?09:27
gnuyenmine doesn't say v2.009:27
gnuyenit does say high speed device09:27
gnuyenbut that could be 1.1 right?09:28
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HyperZidwhere can I download the ubuntu iso?09:29
|Lupin|Please, how to obtain information about the different versions of a given package which come with different Ubuntu distributions ?09:29
lars_www.ubuntu.com09:29
r3d0xXuSfirasR09:29
r3d0xXuSfirasR: still agp 4x oO09:29
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alxwinddoes anyone have experience with installing cracked Windows games with cedega?09:29
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Pop_pa_FrEaKwhat's a good file browser in kde ?09:30
RiddellPop_pa_FrEaK: konqueror09:30
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Pop_pa_FrEaKhow do I enable it for root ?09:30
HyperZidanyone can recommend which release I should use... in diffrent situasions?09:30
manuel_konqueror very fast09:30
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firasRr3d0xXuS:  u sure it's enabled in the bios ?09:30
alxwinddoes anyone have experience with installing cracked Windows games under  Linux with cedega?09:30
RiddellPop_pa_FrEaK: you can edit files as root with the right click menu09:30
thechitowncubsThe error they are getting is: Fatal server error: No screens found09:30
r3d0xXuSfirasR: its 8x enabled yes09:30
HappyFoolHyperZid: use the current release, hoary09:30
Pop_pa_FrEaKok thanx Riddell09:31
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HyperZidHappyFool, thanks.. then i'll try out ubuntu in a while:)09:32
alxwindi can't believe that all of you play only frozen bubbles09:32
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r3d0xXuSwhat to do now @ firasR09:32
thechitowncubsHow can I find out what slot my PCI card09:32
HappyFoolalxwind: no, also nethack09:32
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thechitowncubsAGP video card is on09:33
alxwindlol09:33
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alxwindwhat about installing windows games with cedega?09:33
HappyFoolthechitowncubs: maybe with lspci, but i'm not sure09:33
alxwindany advices?09:33
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HappyFoolsorry, i've never tried it. i boot windows when i play windows game ;)09:33
JDigitalHey, Ubuntu hasn't crashed09:33
GandalfarHow come:   Failed to fetch http://si.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg/xlibmesa-glu-dev_6.8.2-10_i386.deb  404 Not Found [IP: 82.211.81.151 80] 09:33
firasRr3d0xXuS:  not sure what else to try09:34
JDigitaland I'm still using the same nvidia drivers09:34
JDigitalhow come09:34
alxwindok HappyFool 10x, i will keep looking09:34
HappyFoolGandalfar: probably just a temporary glitch, try again09:34
alxwind does anyone have experience with installing cracked Windows games under  Linux with cedega?09:34
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r3d0xXuSfirasR: my problem is: if i play et or q3 or any games it will not constant my fps also like not 100 fps constant it like 100 fps for 1 sec then cooldown in 50 fps for 2 sec then again 100 fps and so going on09:35
|Lupin|Is there a comprehensive list of names associate with Ubuntu distros, pls ?09:35
alxwindi have a regfile that i usually import into windows registry in order to lunch the game, but i can't do it with cedega09:35
alxwindany ideas?09:36
GandalfarHappyFool: funny :) Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg/xlibmesa-glu-dev_6.8.2-10_i386.deb  404 Not Found [IP: 82.211.81.151 80] 09:36
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HappyFoolGandalfar: there appears to be an error on the repository09:37
GandalfarHappyFool: who can I bug?09:37
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_rawIf there exists a linuxrc script in initrd will it execute everytime the kernel boots??09:37
HappyFoolGandalfar: not me ;) sorry, i'm not sure who's reponsible. also, it's past working hours in the uk, where i think the archive is hosted09:37
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r3d0xXuSfirasR ?!09:38
taomasterhow do u install from live cd?09:38
HappyFooltaomaster: i don't think you can. you need the install cd09:38
taomasteri'm trying gnoppix09:38
r3d0xXuSknoppix oO09:38
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taomasterno gnoppix09:39
r3d0xXuSi dunno this lol09:39
taomasterok09:39
Echylog is too far from the k to be a typo :P09:39
r3d0xXuSk hrhr09:39
taomasterhehe09:39
HappyFooltaomaster: this is #ubuntu -- try maybe #knoppix or #gnoppix ?09:39
JDigitalhum.09:39
r3d0xXuS...09:39
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JDigitalWell, I updated to Hoary. Why are my trashcan icon and "desktop" icon on the bottom bar not working?09:40
Pop_pa_FrEaKhmmm can't seem to be able to edit the sources.list09:40
taomasterwww.gnoppix.org/09:40
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taomastergnoppix is based on ubuntu09:41
VRHhow i can insert a new predefined document in create new document when i do right click inthe desktop?09:41
thotypousthe old gnoppix isn't09:41
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thechitowncubsMy sister's friends computer is borked because x can't start, do you guys have any tips for fixing it? I went through reconfiguring it like 10 times with her but it still doesn't start09:42
taomasterthis is a new distro09:42
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zukalkthechitowncubs, what exactly happens when you start up?09:43
taomasterwell thx anyway- : )09:43
taomasteri'll figure it out09:44
VRHhow i can insert a new predefined document in create new document when i do right click inthe desktop?09:44
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Stephenhey09:44
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jazzkahi everybody!09:44
Stephenanyone mind giving me a hand with postfix?09:44
JDigitalHey guys09:44
thechitowncubszukalk: it fails to startx09:45
JDigitalmy lunix hasn't crashed yet09:45
JDigitalwill it?09:45
zukalkthechitowncubs, just like that? i don't know much about x, so i can't really help you09:45
thechitowncubsi can't tell you because the computer is not in my hands, its in my sisters09:45
jazzkaI've burned a dvd-rw, and now, I want to erase it. I do that with: "cdrecord dev=/dev/cdrom blank=all" but I get:  This drive or media does not support the 'BLANK media' command09:45
jazzkacdrecord: Cannot blank disk, aborting.09:45
thechitowncubsand i was trying to troubleshoot over the phone09:45
jazzkaany idea?09:45
|Lupin|jazzka: Excuse such a silly question, but Are you sure zour CD is indeed rewritable ?09:46
zukalkthechitowncubs, i'd say you should come back in a couple of hours, when more people can help. i'm a newbie myself09:46
thechitowncubsAlright...09:46
zukalkmeanwhile, ask more questions to your sis09:46
thechitowncubsi'll try again in a bit09:47
jazzka|Lupin|, yes, I'm sure09:47
tolstoyX broken on latest breezy for other folks too?09:47
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zukalkthechitowncubs, get as many details as you can09:47
|Lupin|jazzka: look for a verbosity flag like -v in the man page for cdrecord and use it, it may help.09:47
metzenwhats the name of a good os x dock clone for linux?09:47
Gandalfarmetzen: superkaramba09:47
HappyFoolStephen: what do you want to know?09:48
metzenGandalfar: thanks09:48
StephenI can't use it, /etc/init.d/postfix start says it starts successfully but when I try to do anything I get09:49
Stephen *stfix/postfix-script: fatal: the Postfix mail system is not running    [fail] 09:49
tolstoy/etc/init.d/gdm restart # does nothing!09:49
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zukalktolstoy, well stop and start it :P09:50
terryi get: Child terminated with 1 status when ever i try to run update manager and login as root09:51
tolstoyzukalk: :)09:51
lamont__Stephen: /var/log/mail.log will have more information on why it's dying09:52
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StephenOK thanks09:52
StephenJun 16 20:43:27 localhost postfix/master[8095] : fatal: /etc/postfix/master.cf: line 84: bad hostname or network address: ::109:53
Stephenthats cause I've disabled IPv6 right?09:53
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Stephenthats it! thanks lamont__09:54
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sinopeanyone know what the deal is with manpages under ubuntu?09:56
lars_sinope - they exist. ?09:56
Stephenwhat do you mean?09:56
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sinopethey are sort of screwed up09:58
sinopehyphens and symbols and such09:58
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sinope                 are arguments after the string, they are assigned to the positional  parame?09:58
sinope                 ters, starting with $0.09:58
Zindarsinope: do you have the wrong charset or something?09:58
sinopethat's from the bash manpage.09:58
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sinopei suppose it's possible.... how/where would i change that09:59
Seveassinope, make sure you have a UTF8 locale09:59
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Seveassinope, dpkg-reconfigure locales09:59
Stephenhmmm09:59
sinopelocale09:59
sinopeLANG=en_US.UTF-809:59
Seveasmake sure you set a UTF8 locale as default09:59
chombeesinope - man bash looks fine to me09:59
Zindarand make sure you don't have LESS_CHARSET set (if I remember that right)09:59
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Stephenemail sent to stephen@localhost.localdomain via PHP are delivered to www-data@localhost.localdomain09:59
Stephenany idea why?09:59
sinopeZindar: i don't09:59
sinopeZindar: nor anything with less or char09:59
chombeeStephen - have you configured sendmail or anything yourself?10:00
Zindarwell.. do the dpkg-reconfigure and try again10:00
Zindarlooks good here10:00
lamont__Stephen: and yes, just comment that line out in /etc/postfix/master.cf10:00
sinopeZindar: okay10:00
Stepheni ran dpkg-reconfigure postfix10:00
Stephenah thanks, will take a look10:00
sinopeZindar: okay, i'm setting en_US.UTF-8 to default locale10:01
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sinopecripes, not fixed.10:01
metzendoes superkaramba work correctly in gnome? im getting these big black boxes in areas that seem like they should be transpearant10:01
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Seveassinope, what heppens if you try this command:10:03
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SeveasLANG=en_US.UTF8 LC_ALL=en_US.UTF8 man bash10:03
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sinopeSeveas: still doesn't work.10:03
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sinopehmm, could it be my rxvt?10:04
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Seveasmaybe rxvt doesn't support unicode10:04
sinopenope, console doesn't work either10:04
sinopeah HA! but xterm does.10:04
Seveas:)10:04
sinope:P10:04
sinopeso it's an rxvt setting10:04
sinopethanks dudes10:04
sinope...and possibly dudettes10:05
Seveasgood luck finding the setting10:05
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darkmark\exit10:05
HappyFoolthat's /part to you10:06
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JDigitalI think hoary has sneakily changed my fonts on me10:09
JDigitalI don't remember Bitstream Vera Sans being this narrow10:10
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chombeeIs there any way to find out the username without being able to login?10:11
Gandalfarchombee: no10:11
alxwinddoes anyone have experience with installing cracked Windows games under  Linux with cedega?10:11
alxwindi have a regfile that i usually import into windows registry in order to lunch the game, but i can't do it with cedega?10:12
chombeeGandaldar - and I suppose I can't login as root, or activate the root account either?10:12
alxwindany ideas?10:12
dreaddydavewrong forum10:12
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Gandalfarchombee: root is disabled by default10:12
HappyFoolchombee: you can boot in rescue mode10:12
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JDigitaldoes warty change the fonts or what10:12
JDigitaler10:12
JDigitalhoary10:12
Zindaralxwind: ubuntu is not about pirate software.. try someplace else.....10:12
eruinalxwind, buy the game10:13
JDigitalI'd ask on the forums but I've asked three questions there this year and got no successful response10:13
alxwindlol10:13
JDigitalwhich game is it, out of interest10:13
alxwindnever10:13
chombeeHappyFool - how? Will this enable me to get the login name?10:13
eruindamnit, dbus keeps CRASHING10:13
alxwindthat'smy credo10:13
HappyFoolchombee: well, you can take a look at /etc/passwd (or just /home), so yes10:13
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chombeeHappyFool - great, thanks10:14
Pop_pa_FrEaKalxwind, how old are you ?10:14
HappyFoolchombee: it'll also let you reset that user's password10:14
alxwindanyway, the question was not about pirate software, but importing regfile in cedega?10:14
chombeeHappyFool - how to access this mode?10:14
alxwinddoes it make any difference for you? ;)10:14
eruinit was a question about pirate software :P10:14
eruinwe don't condone it10:14
alxwindno, it wasn't10:14
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HappyFoolchombee: reboot, press 'ESC' when prompted (very early in the boot process)10:14
Gandalfaralxwind: use #cedega, it's commercial sw anyway, use their tech support10:14
eruin"installing cracked windows games" ?10:14
eruin:P10:14
JDigitalthe question was about "cracked" software, that makes it sound like piracy10:15
HappyFoolchombee: you should get a boot menu. select 'rescue mode'10:15
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nJessheh10:15
chombeeHappyFool - recovery mode, thanks10:15
nJessim running some weird hybrid of KDE and gnome10:15
JDigitalman, either I'm paranoid or someone's changed all the fonts10:15
Pop_pa_FrEaKalxwind, you won't get an answer for that type of question in an open source community10:15
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HappyFoolchombee: err, or that ;)10:15
alxwindin my case that was nocd patch but not stealing smth, see the difference?10:15
chombeeJDigital - did you just upgrade or something?10:15
nJesshalf my icons are gnome icons, the other half are KDE icond10:15
nJessicons*10:15
eruinanyone else experiencing stuff like this in hoary? : http://pastebin.com/30056910:16
nJessits weird10:16
terryfound it...visudo - add user10:16
JDigitalyes10:16
Pop_pa_FrEaKcedega doesn't take imports of windows based regfiles10:16
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zwarti can't find azureus in the repositories, am i blind? or is it just not there anymnore...10:16
JDigitalwarty -> hoaryt10:16
JDigital*hoary10:16
JDigitalI've been putting it off10:16
eruinalxwind, if you have lost your cd, mail the company and get a new one10:16
eruinmost distributors do that free of charge10:17
chombeeJDigital - it could be that your font anti-aliasing etc settings have changed during the upgrade10:17
eruinthat is, if you have a valid key10:17
Pop_pa_FrEaKall you need is your legal serial #10:17
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JDigitalNah, I tried fiddling with those, the xchat font looks different10:17
JDigitalmaybe it changed the font to the default one when it upgraded10:17
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zwartis there any multiple-torrent clients for ubuntu like azureus? i hate having to have a seperate window for each file10:18
chombeeJDigital - I don't think that's normal. Did you have XChat set to a non-default font?10:18
JDigitalIt might have, I can't remember.10:18
naliothzwart: check sourceforge.net10:18
chombeezwart - you ca apt-get azureus10:18
JDigitalfirefox's fonts look different too10:18
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JDigitalalthough that might just be because of the version10:19
JDigitalI dunno.10:19
dgtlanyone know where to change the background color that appears when you're logging in?10:19
nalioth_wrknzwart: there are dozens of torrent clients there10:19
metzenis it possible to hide the handle grips on the side of a panel, when the panel is put into "non expanded" mode10:19
metzeni would like to have a transparent background on the panel, without the side grips which are white-grey and opaque from my gtk theme10:19
chombeezwart - google for the Ubuntu Hoaru 5.04 Starter guide, azureus is in there10:19
zwart"E: Couldn't find package azureus"10:19
metzenim refering to the gnome desktop panels10:19
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zwarti have universe multiverse and marillat added, but the only torrent clients that show up are the standard one, bit tornado, and a couple for kde10:20
Majlozwart, You must add backport repository10:20
ced__I have a question...I installed the hoary livecd for am64 (md5 hashes are the same)...everything loads up fine but I can't access the internet correctly10:20
chombeezwart - azureus is probably in a non-default package repository, instructions are in the Starters Guide10:21
zwartahh10:21
zwartok thanks10:21
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ced__DHCP assigns ip addresses correctly and whatnot10:21
Majlozwart, http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories10:21
ced__I can connect to an irc server, but the only website that works for me is google.com for some reason10:21
syndzwart: ubuntuguide.org tells you how to get azureus10:21
chombeeOkay - can anyone help me with a wireless configuration? I suspect I may need to dl and compile a driver (which means I'm screwed) but lets find out for sure...10:22
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DanielCHello, where could I go to better understand the meaning of the word "Ubuntu" ?10:22
chombeeiwconfig detects the card as wlan010:22
syndchombee: what brand/model is it10:22
chombeebut it evidently is not configured as I can't ping google10:22
chombeesynd - D-Link DWL-650+10:22
syndah, i have a dlink dwl10:23
abarbacciahey, anybody here use lirc?  i'm having trouble starting the daemon at bootup because i deleted its startup script10:23
chombeesynd - was it supported or did you need a driver?10:23
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jhaveHi10:24
jhavehow do i enable framebuffer ?10:24
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JDigitalDanielC: "Ubuntu" is an ancient African word, meaning "humanity to others". The Ubuntu Linux distribution brings the spirit of Ubuntu to the software world.10:24
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zukalkdaniel, a good startpoint: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu10:24
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StellarPrincewhats the big deal with ubuntu?10:24
eruinDanielC, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu10:24
syndchombee: i had to use the driver + ndiswrapper10:24
StellarPrincei didnt see nothing special10:25
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StellarPrincesynd what kernel do u have?10:25
chombeesynd - bad news for me10:25
eruintoo bad StellarPrince10:25
DanielCzukalk, eruin: Thanks. :-)10:25
syndStellarPrince: what?10:25
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StellarPrinceeruin i have slckware10:25
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StellarPrinceand has more things10:25
syndStellarPrince: then stick with slackware10:25
StellarPrincethan ubuntu10:25
StellarPrinceso i dont understand10:25
tiglionabbitI put in my exact printer model and it fails the test page10:25
tiglionabbitwhat should I do?10:25
eruinStellarPrince, good for you10:25
StellarPrinceno...10:25
StellarPrincethat's not the point10:25
StellarPrincei just wanna10:26
syndStellarPrince: distrowatch.com10:26
StellarPrinceknow10:26
StellarPrincewhy ubuntu is so powerful10:26
tiglionabbit=[10:26
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syndStellarPrince: ease of use10:26
Razor-Xtiglionabbit: what model?10:26
syndis what it boils down to10:26
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HablandocontigoI _need_ to encode a wav file to 64kbps wma and rm files, how can I do that?10:26
eruinStellarPrince, because it's desktop-oriented and aims for everything to 'just work'10:26
eruinlike a desktop distro should10:26
tiglionabbitHP Deskjet 920c.  It worked perfectly with hoary unstable array 410:26
Razor-XStellarPrince: packing quite a few useful things in a CD, easy to configure, great package manager, etc.10:26
StellarPrinceohh i'm seeing10:26
syndchombee: not really10:26
Razor-Xit's Debian, and it does everything that Debian did wrong, right10:26
syndchombee: its really easy10:27
StellarPrinceso i agree it's very useful10:27
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syndso whats your problem, StellarPrince ?10:27
StellarPrincesynd i cant install ndiswrapper under kernel 2.6.1110:27
StellarPrince.X10:27
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rancorushey, i have problems using my hp printer on linux.10:27
syndStellarPrince: you are chombee ?10:27
chombeesynd - I cannot get ndiswrapper onto the laptop, and I can't get the compilers or kernel source either10:28
StellarPrincechombee? (just a sec for i check in the dicionary :x)10:28
chombeesynd - no he isn't10:28
StellarPrinceahh10:28
StellarPrince:X10:28
zukalklol10:28
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Razor-Xtiglionabbit: it should be natively included in CUPS 1.1x and above10:28
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syndchombee: are you using hoary?10:28
chombeesynd - yes10:28
StellarPrincesynd i'm not chombee lol10:28
syndStellarPrince: thanks10:28
syndchombee: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils10:29
Guimauve2I have a question about apache2 : in which config file can I define the default web pages directory (DocumentRoot directive)?10:29
chombeesynd - because the wireless card is not configured I can't apt-get anything, and I have only a server install running. Nice, no?10:29
krebsmm someone knows about why my totem didn't sounds but just video, when xmms works perfectly and I downloaded kino kodec pack?10:29
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syndchombee: can you not hardwire connect it?10:30
tiglionabbit=[  darn it things aren't printing right at all10:30
syndchombee: thats what i had to do10:30
chombeesynd - but it seems to have detected the wireless interface, so I wasn going to try to configure it myself10:30
StellarPrincesynd -> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32127410:30
StellarPrincei'm krayhze10:30
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chombeesynd - hardwire? the ethernet card in this thing is broken10:30
syndchombee: i see10:31
osityanyone have software raid experience with raid?10:31
syndchombee: well if its being detected, ten i dont know what to tell you10:31
tiglionabbitthe test page comes out as several lines.  Other things put some gibberish on the top line and a few elipses on the page10:31
osityraid 110:31
syndthen10:31
chombeesynd - it's detected, but it's like it's not activated10:31
Razor-Xtiglioabbit: you used CUPS setup, then?10:31
rancorushey, i have problems using my hp printer on linux.10:31
Guimauve2I have a question about apache2 : in which config file can I define the default web pages directory (DocumentRoot directive)?10:31
Razor-Xrancorus: what's the problem?10:31
syndchombee: is the ethernet and dial up modem deactivated10:32
StellarPrincesynd can u help me?10:32
syndStellarPrince: no im not familiar with slack10:32
chombeesynd - I think the ethernet is simply broken, nothing in ifconfig, and I don't think it even has dialup, anyway we couldn't use it if it did10:32
StellarPrincehumm ok10:32
rancorusrazor-x, i cannot get it to print something even if it the driver is installed10:32
StellarPrincebut the problem isnt the slack i think10:32
StephenGuimauve2 - /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default10:33
chombeeAnyone know how to use iwconfig?10:33
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krebsmm someone knows about why my totem didn't sounds but just video, when xmms works perfectly and I downloaded kino kodec pack?10:33
syndchombee: no, go into System > Prefs > Networking10:33
tiglionabbitRazor-X: I used system->admin->printers, and selected New Printer10:33
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chombeesynd - server install only, stuck at command line, sorry!10:33
syndchombee: oh jeeze10:33
tiglionabbitit's using the hpijs driver10:33
syndchombee: no idea10:34
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rancorustiglionabbit: It is connected with usb cable, could that be the problem10:34
chombeesynd - thanks anyway10:34
syndno problem10:34
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IcemanV9krebs: you might want to select a different sound system, i think10:35
CheticHow do I get a list of my /dev/hd's? (and possible a list of what type of partition and size they are)10:35
krebstnx10:35
IcemanV9Chetic: df -h10:35
HappyFoolsudo fdisk -l10:35
Cheticthanks IcemanV910:35
Cheticoh thanks HappyFool too :p10:35
chombeesynd - do you think I could build the driver for the card in this laptop then transfer it over to the other and it would work?10:36
tiglionabbitrancorus: I know it's usb.  How is that a problem?  It worked with hoary unstable..10:36
HablandocontigoI _need_ to encode a wav file to 64kbps wma and rm files, how can I do that?10:36
tiglionabbitsomething tells me I should just restart and see if it's detected..  bleh, my windows instincts10:36
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syndchombee: perhaps10:37
IcemanV9Chetic: both commands will do trick depending on how much info u want :)10:37
ositynoone has raid experience?10:37
rancorustiglionabbit: mine works sporadically and i don't know why10:37
neighborleeI can't run synaptic from gnome menu ( works in console) as I get this error: unable to copy users xauthorization file ?10:37
syndchombee: but thats beyond my level10:37
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chombeesynd - didn't you know how to use ndiswrapper?10:37
tiglionabbitalright, I'm gonna restart, brb10:37
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bkinmanqt3's designer looks all see through and messed up on my system , anyone know why?10:38
JDigitalYes, the fonts have most 100% definitely changed in upgrading to Hoary.10:38
r0dwhats a good backup plan for a desktop system? what files should I backup?10:38
JDigitalanything not easily replaceable10:38
syndchombee: yup10:38
chombeesynd - what does that involve?10:38
r0dso then just data, because everything else can be replaced easy. maybe the /etc file then i guess10:39
syndchombee: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//HowToSetUpNdiswrapper10:39
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JDigitalOh, smashing! Upgrading to hoary has broken mplayer!10:39
HappyFoolr0d: you'll probably want to backup /home/r0d/  (or whatever your home dir is)10:39
JDigitaland broken sound. hmm...10:40
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hajikianyone know how to fix this? No package 'mozilla-plugin' found10:40
hajikiconfigure: error: Unable to find gecko sdk10:40
hajikii already installed mozilla-firefox-dev10:40
bpfick Has anyone dual booted on a Mac?10:41
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jhavesomebody there can help whit framebuffer ?10:41
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HappyFoolhajiki: maybe you need mozilla-dev as well? (just guessing)10:42
hajikii would hope not could that would also install the mozilla suite :(10:42
hajikis/could/because10:43
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ghostlessI'm having trouble playing DivX movies...Is there a tutorial somewhere?10:44
tiglionabbitokay.  I restarted and it works perfectly.  This is not supposed to happen.10:44
tiglionabbitoh well10:44
tiglionabbitit works10:44
tiglionabbitghostless:10:44
ghostless?10:45
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tiglionabbit!restricted10:45
tiglionabbit...  wha?  where's the bot?10:45
tiglionabbit!restricted10:45
tiglionabbitokay I'll type it out.10:45
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats10:45
tiglionabbithttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats10:45
tiglionabbitoh, there ubotu is10:45
ghostlessI went there10:45
ghostlessit didn't help10:45
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CheticHow do I mount an ntfs partition so regular users can browse through it and use the files? (I don't understand man mount, to be honest)10:46
jaggiwhere's the rc.local type file10:46
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HappyFooljaggi: try /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh10:46
jaggiI know the rc#.d and init.d dirs..10:46
jaggithanks10:46
ghostlesstiglionabbit: I went there and it didn't help10:46
HappyFoolChetic: you need an option umask=000 (or umask=222) -- so mount -t ntfs -o umask=000 /dev/hdaX /media/windows10:47
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ghostlesstiglionabbit: I installed MPlayer....and I installed a package call libdivx4linux10:47
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chombeeIf I plug in a supported external wireless card, should it just work straight away?10:47
tiglionabbiturf, I can't answer these questions..10:48
HappyFoolhrm. what happened to the wiki? it looks all shiny10:48
ghostlessyea it does10:48
ghostlessit's now Moin-based10:48
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HappyFoolghostless: i installed the w32codecs package -- i think that's what lets me watch divx10:49
tiglionabbitshiny?  Didn't it always look like that?10:49
zwartghostless: install gstreamer-ffmpeg and use totem10:49
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Cheticwow HappyFool, now I've learned that for life.. heh, thanks10:50
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HappyFoolghostless: if it helps, i have version "1:20050412-0.0"  (according to dpkg -p) -- got it from marillat a while back10:50
JDigitalHey guys! How do I add the extra repositories? like, the repository that has 'smeg'?10:50
ghostlessHappyFool: I have that and it didn't do divx10:50
zwarti think the wiki looks better now10:50
HappyFoolChetic: cool. just learnt about it yesterday10:50
ghostlesszwart: ok I'll try that10:51
JDigitalbecause the way ubuntuguide describes it doesn't match my file10:51
tiglionabbitJDigital: you can either check them in synaptic's repositories section, or uncomment them or add them to /etc/apt/sources.list10:51
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djsWhat was the wiki engine prior to moin?10:51
JDigitalwhich ones do I have to check10:51
chombeeJDigital - go to the Ubuntu Starters Guide, open the example sources.list it has, delete the entire contents of your sources.list and paste the contents of the example into it, open synaptic and reload package lists10:51
JDigitaloh, the entire sources.list?10:52
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chombeeJDigital - their example will give you a pretty good set of repositories, voer 16,000 pkg's, though I don't think it's everything. Anyway yes do that. Make a backup copy of sources.list first10:52
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Cheticthe music player that comes with ubuntu (hoary) can't play MP3 files because it's missing a plugin.. what do I do about that?10:53
tiglionabbit!restricted10:53
uboturestricted is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats10:53
zythChetic, install gstreamer0.8-mad10:53
zythoh hey cool, I didn't know that could be done10:53
zyth!nvidia10:53
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ubotumethinks nvidia is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto10:53
zythneat :D10:53
chombeeChetic - you can install xmms or beep-media-player, or if you install gstreamer0.8-mad that it the plugin the Music player needs10:53
heimdallHi everybody10:53
Cheticah zyth and chombee, thanks10:53
JDigitalyeah, that gave a bunch of errors when I started synaptic10:53
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chombeeJDigital - you did what I said? Okay now press reload in synaptic10:54
JDigitalreloading already10:54
JDigitalthough it gave a bunch of "oops, couldn't find a bunch of stuff" errors upon startup10:54
chombeeJDigital - let me know if reloading succeeds without errors10:54
JDigitalit does10:54
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chombeeJDigital - I think those errors will happen, until you reload the lists10:54
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JDigitalaha.10:55
JDigitalgood good, it works now.10:55
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heimdallcan I ask a question, I have a little problem with my ubuntu10:55
heimdall?10:55
chombeeJDigital - okay so it reloads  successfully? Now install whatever you want, you should have just about everything10:55
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JDigitalNow, when I mark "all upgrades", I get an error saying that a ton of stuff isn't authenticated.10:55
heimdallI have a laptop, the installation seems to be successful but when I enter my login/pwd, I have a brown screen and a sound which is repeating himself10:56
chombeeJDigital - this is probably okay10:56
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heimdallI thnk the problem is maybe my sis630 chipset ?10:56
Fabianpfp, are you here?10:57
Fabianhi everybody, ever screwed your partition table? :D10:57
JDigitalhehe10:57
JDigitalwhat a great way to start a conversation10:57
concept10what do you guys use for email? evolution or thunderbird?10:57
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pfpFabian: ye, still here10:57
FabianJDigital, I don't feel like laughing! :D10:57
Fabianlol, still?10:57
chombeeconcept10 - evolutoin is much better than thunderbird10:57
heimdallis there someone who can help me ? I'm lost..10:57
pfpFabian: umm, make that again10:58
Fabianpfp, make what again?10:58
concept10chombee, yeah, i feel that way also but evolution has been giving me problems since I switched to ubuntu10:58
IFRFLYRHey, anyone have any ndiswrapper experience? Am I supposed to use the WHOLE linksys driver package, all 7.6MBs of it?10:58
JDigitalThis is baffling, it wants to install firefox. I have firefox.10:58
chombeeconcept10 - what kind of problems?10:58
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pfpi mean, i slept for some hours, so again, not still :P10:58
Fabianah, now I understand10:59
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Fabiantime for a privat chat?10:59
neighborleesynaptic wont work from gnome menu ( it works in console though ) as I get this error: unable to copy users xauthorization file , and wondering if anyone knows what might be wrong ?? ;-)10:59
pfpFabian: yeah10:59
chombeeJDigital - are you sure it isn't upgrading firefox?10:59
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JDigitalIt has three categories: NOT AUTHENTICATED, To be upgraded, and To be installed10:59
heimdallis there someone who can help me with my problem on my laptop and my ubuntu ?10:59
VRHhow i can insert a new predefined document in create new document when i do right click inthe desktop?10:59
JDigitalTo be installed is "firefox", "firefox-gnome-support" and some other stuff11:00
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fabiohi all11:00
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concept10chombee, cannot send outgoing mail with gmail11:00
chombeeVRH - I think it might have something to do with nautilus templates, when you right click on a window bar and get the nautilus menu11:01
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JDigitalwhat does it mean when a package version number ends in "ubp2"?11:01
chombeeconcept10 - ah, gmail. Gmail is funny to configure. Why not just send email with you local sendmail process instead?11:02
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concept10chombee, couldnt figure that one out.  I had gmail working with Evolution grabbing mail for three accounts.11:02
jaggibbl11:03
JDigitaloh, backports.11:03
JDigitalDo I want backports?11:03
concept10chombee, it must be something with gmail because i cant get it working with thunderbird either.  I have to check my settings11:03
chombeeconcept10 - in my evolution mail accounts, for sending mail, I set the Server Type to the Sendmail option. I think it's there by default. Use gmail for receiving mail as you are, but not for sending11:04
HappyFoolJDigital: that is the ubuntuguide procedure, and is one way to get stuff outside ubuntu's repo. some of the gurus here don't like it, though *shrug*11:04
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chombeeconcept10 - if I remember, gmails smtp server is a little funny to configure.11:04
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VRHchombee, thx, i have resolved. you hace to create a directory in your home that call "Templates" and inside it you have to create a new Document11:04
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msg431hello11:04
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msg431I am using ndiswrapper11:04
msg431the network config tool doesn't work very well11:05
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msg431I would like to write a script were would I call it to boot up from11:05
chombeeVRH - and then that document appears in the Create Document menu? Is it just named by the filename? Neat11:05
Cheticis there no package for zsnes?11:05
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chombeeChetic - I don't think so, but zsnes is easy enought to get working if you just download it11:05
VRHchombee, yes11:06
JDigitalAll I know is that I used to be able to play MP3s in xmms, and now that I've upgraded to Hoary, I can't.11:06
HappyFoolChetic: zsnes is in multiverse11:06
microhaxoGuys i get this error when trying to play AMERICAS ARMY Xlib:  extension "XiG-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD" missing on display ":0.0".11:06
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microhaxois there a quick fix?11:06
VRHchombee, for example you create a new document called New Document of text.txt11:06
VRHand it appears11:06
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Pop_pa_FrEaKmicrohaxo, is 2.4 out for linux ?11:06
microhaxonp11:06
microhaxono11:07
microhaxo2.311:07
microhaxoi cant get it to work11:07
microhaxolol11:07
Pop_pa_FrEaKahhh ok11:07
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microhaxoget this error, sounds like a quick fix?11:07
microhaxoXlib:  extension "XiG-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD" missing on display ":0.0".11:07
Pop_pa_FrEaKI play it myself11:07
CheticHappyFool, what's the name?11:07
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HappyFoolChetic: zsnes11:07
Cheticchombee, yeah I just didn't feel like setting stuff up for compile11:07
CheticHappyFool, can't be found.. and I've added all those sources11:07
chombeeChetic - well, turns out it's there in one of the repositories anyway11:07
msg431anyone can you help me11:08
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HappyFoolapt-cache policy zsneszsnes: #=> 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/multiverse Packages11:08
HappyFooloops11:08
chombeechetic - I can see the zsnes package11:08
Cheticchombee, where? :/11:08
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HappyFooljust zsnes, not whatever that said11:08
Cheticdamn..11:08
dabiis there any way i can see my battery status in acer aspire 1410? i dont hace nothing on /proc/acpi/battery11:08
HappyFoolChetic: you probably don't have multiverse11:09
chombeechetic - Cross Platform (multiverse)11:09
JDigitalDo I have any choice other than using the backports repositories, if I actually want MP3 support back?11:09
HappyFoolChetic: don't confuse multiverse with universe11:09
HappyFoolJDigital: for MP3 playback, you don't need backports11:09
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HappyFoolJDigital: for video codecs, i'm not sure11:09
JDigitalWhat do I need11:09
JDigitalxmms isn't playing it, and mplayer can't get any sound when playing video11:09
HappyFoolJDigital: universe / main (standard ubutun repositories) as far as i can tell11:09
zwartis there a way i can exlude drives from backing up stuff i delete in the .Trash directories? everytime i try to remove stuff from my mp3 player i have to do it twice11:09
CheticHappyFool, I always have them all available..11:09
bkinmanWhat does this mean? Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed11:10
tiglionabbitgrr.  Um, I'm trying to print something from firefox but all I get is a bit of garblage and some elipses11:10
HappyFoolJDigital: you can just remove the 'backports' lines in /etc/apt/sources.list by commenting them out (put a '#' at the beginning of the line)11:10
HappyFoolJDigital: then install gstreamer0.8-mad11:10
HappyFoolJDigital: i think there might be another issue with xmms re the sound daemon (esd)11:11
heimdallcan someone help me ? I have problems with my ubuntu, brown screen typing my login/pwd, I can't do anything11:11
HappyFoolJDigital: that's not mp3 related, afaik, but a general sound thing11:11
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JDigitalah11:11
HappyFoolChetic: how about putting your /etc/apt/sources.list up here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl ?11:12
Cheticyeah HappyFool I'll do that..11:12
JDigitalHappyFool: I have gstreamer0.8-mad11:12
HappyFoolJDigital: ok, then at least 'Music Player' (aka RhythmBox) should play mp3s11:13
JDigitalI want to use xmms11:13
CheticHappyFool, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/9911:13
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Hablandocontigo I _need_ to encode a wav file to 64kbps wma and rm files, how can I do that?11:13
HappyFoolJDigital: yeah, but we can at least test with that first ;)11:14
JDigitaloh true11:14
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dabiis there any way to see my battery status? i have nothing on /proc/acpi/battery11:14
JDigitaloh cool, Music Player has a slot for my iPod11:14
JDigitalnow all I need to do is to buy an iPod11:14
JDigital:)11:14
zythJDigital, I have a Zen Xtra, and it doesn't seem to like it.11:14
zythI'm stuck with Gnomad 2 :(11:15
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zwarti wonder if it would work w my rio cali11:15
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JDigitalI have an MP3 player that holds 16MB11:15
HappyFoolChetic: hmm11:15
zwartlol11:15
JDigitalit only works with a specific software that only runs on Windows 9811:15
zythI want to get rid of the Zen Xtra.. it's 30gb of Non-Ogg compatibility.11:15
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JDigitalaha11:16
JDigitalMusic Player is playing my Music11:16
J0elwhats a good app that would display my cpu temperature and freq.11:16
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JDigitaland eating 80% CPU to do it :)11:16
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HappyFoolJDigital: ok, so we just need to figure out what the plugin for xmms is11:16
JDigitalso I wonder what's stopping xmms from playing mp3, and mplayer from playing my animes11:17
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zythxmms won't play mp3?11:17
zythweird.11:17
zythmine does11:17
Cheticlol mine too11:17
JDigitalmine did until I upgraded to hoary11:17
SeveasJDigital, did you change the xmms output plugin to Esound?11:17
JDigitalnow it just hangs when I hit play11:17
CheticHappyFool, well?11:17
nalioth_wrknJDigital: have you seen the ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats   ? if so, that is weird11:17
SeveasJDigital, yeah,, that's the esound problem :)(11:17
zythI use ALSA11:17
zythit works happily11:18
SeveasJDigital, very easy to fix iin the xmms prefs11:18
JDigitaltime for me to alsa on up then it seems11:18
SeveasJDigital, no, use esound11:18
HappyFoolJDigital: you might need xmms-mad -- but i'm not sure. there is the whole esd thing too, not sure how to tweak that11:18
Seveasthat's what hoary uses by default11:18
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HappyFoolChetic: it certainly looks like you have multiverse11:18
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JDigitalMy xmms is using the OSS Driver11:18
CheticHappyFool, how do I search with apt-get?11:19
zythOSS is depreciated ;)11:19
SeveasJDigital, that cannot work on oary :)11:19
HappyFoolChetic: apt-cache search11:19
JDigitalOSS Driver 1.2.10 libOSS.so11:19
JDigitalaha11:19
SeveasJDigital, let it use Esound/esd11:19
JDigitalok11:19
HappyFoolChetic: have you run 'sudo apt-get update' ?11:19
Cheticyeah HappyFool11:19
JDigitalgood, now it works11:19
HappyFoolChetic: what does 'apt-cache show zsnes' say ?11:19
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CheticHappyFool, nothing11:20
JDigitalI wonder how advanced UAE has gotten11:20
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JDigitalWinUAE is pretty good at what it does but the linux version I used was crappy11:20
HappyFoolChetic: i.e., or 'W:  Unable to locate package'11:20
zythrun WinUAE in Wine ;)11:20
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JDigitalheheh11:20
paxonSeveas, what's a good recent Linux book to read. (I have running Linux, Oreilly).11:20
Seveaspaxon, no idea :)11:20
Cheticroot@ubuntu:/ # apt-cache show zsnes11:20
Cheticroot@ubuntu:/ #11:20
HappyFooleek11:20
CheticI'll say11:21
JDigitalI remember an Amiga magazine once had an Amiga emulate a Mac emulating an Commodore 64, just to prove that it could be done. Another time I think they had a PC emulating an Amiga emulating a PC.11:21
Seveaspaxon, there is going to be an Ubuntu book :)11:21
paxonWhen/where?11:21
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zythwhat the heck, FreePascal isn't in Synaptic!11:21
zythEVIL11:21
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HappyFoolChetic: i'm not really an apt guru -- i don't know what could be wrong11:22
JDigitalI wonder if smeg is in a repository somewhere11:22
zythJDigital, : backports11:22
JDigitalah11:22
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JDigitalGuilty Gear song titles are the best11:22
paxonI need me some good book. Reading from the screen is pain.11:22
zythjust make sure to remove backports once you install it, or your 'automatic updater' will tell you that you have 29 packages to 'upgrade' and it'll probably break stuff.11:22
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JDigitalhaha11:23
JDigitalyeah, I was wary of doing that11:23
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JDigitalit told me I had 5411:23
zythI added it long enough to install Smeg, then removed backports11:23
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zyththen did the upgrades11:23
JDigitalif it's not broke, don't fix it11:23
HappyFoolChetic: it's a bit of a stretch, but does 'apt-get check' tell you anything about errors ?11:23
zythJDigital, if there's security updates, it's broke.11:23
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HappyFoolChetic: i don't think i can suggest much more than that11:24
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breezydoes anybody know how to convert a wmv to mpg on ubuntu?11:24
JDigitalHey, smeg wants to upgrade python-xdg.11:24
zythJDigital, yep11:24
JDigitalwonder what python-xdg is.11:24
JDigitaloh well, here goes11:25
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msg431How would I call a script at bootup?11:25
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CheticHappyFool, no errors there..11:26
HappyFoolChetic: sorry, i'm out of ideas. something is wrong, but i don't know what11:26
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CheticHappyFool, Everything works perfectly but that one package isn't there.. that's.. weird11:27
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HappyFoolChetic: somewhat ;)11:28
msg431Can anyone see me11:28
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SeveasChetic, which package?11:28
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Seveasmsg431, no, you are completely invisible unfortunately...11:28
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zukalkhow does he do that?11:29
msg431Seveas, I'm wonder if anyone can help me11:29
zukalk:P11:29
msg431I know a bunch about linux but I'm new to ubuntu11:29
Seveasmsg431, just ask your question then :)11:29
CheticSeveas, zsnes11:29
msg431I want to know what file I should bring up a scritp if i want it to excute at boot11:29
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dabii cant see my battery status... /proc/acpi/battery doesnt exist.. anything i can do?11:30
Seveasmsg431, at boot or when you login?11:30
SeveasChetic, that's completely normal11:30
Seveasyou are on amd6411:30
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Seveaszsnes only comes for i38611:31
CheticSeveas, ohh of course11:31
CheticCan't it be compiled on amd64 or something?11:31
HappyFoolchetic: doh11:31
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lsuactiafnerChetic : what was the question?11:32
HappyFoolstill, why didn't apt-cache give an error?11:32
Cheticlsuactiafner, Now I just want to know if zsnes can be compiled on amd6411:32
msg431Seveas, at boot11:32
CheticWhenever something says cache, I'm completely lost.. so don't ask me :p11:32
breezyanybody ever converted a wmv into something else on linux?11:33
SeveasChetic, http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/z/zsnes/1.360-2/11:33
lsuactiafnerbreezy : all the time11:33
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breezylsuactiafner, with what?11:33
SeveasHappyFool, it's not apt-caches task to give an error there11:33
Seveasmsg431, you have the script already?11:33
msg431Seveas, no but I know how to write it11:33
djm62transcode11:34
lsuactiafnerbreezy : man mencoder11:34
microhaxoguys how can i fix this error11:34
lsuactiafnerthen press end on the keyboard11:34
microhaxoXlib: extension "XiG-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD" missing on display ":0.0".11:34
HappyFoolSeveas: if i type in a nonsense name, i get an error msg *shrug*11:34
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Seveasmsg431, then put it somewhere in /etc/init.d/ and do sudo ln -s /etc/rc2.d/S99YOURNAME /etc/init.d/YOURNAME11:34
biovore"XiG-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD" missing on display ":0.0" <-- playing UT?11:34
djm62microhaxo: UT2k3?11:35
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microhaxoAmericas army11:35
Seveaswhere YOURNAME is the name of the script11:35
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biovoreyeah.. it just come up.. no clue what it is..11:35
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microhaxoyea its pissin me off11:35
JDigitalOop, mplayer isn't doing too good. It stalls at this line:11:35
JDigitalalsa-init: 1 soundcard found, using: default11:35
JDigitaljust kinda stalls there11:35
biovoreIt's because the NVIDIA driver dosn't support something the software calls for..  but it ussulay dosn't kill the game..11:35
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SeveasJDigital, edit /etc/mplayer.conf11:35
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SeveasJDigital, edit /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf11:36
microhaxowell11:36
microhaxohow the hell can i fix it?11:36
konkihi aLL... need some heLp here plze...11:36
Seveasmake sure that ao=esd11:36
biovorebitch at a developer11:36
Seveaskonki, read the topic: just ask11:36
JDigitalah, esd11:36
konkiinstalling firefox on ubuntu/linux11:36
lsuactiafneram having trouble encoding things so windows can play it11:36
Seveaskonki, DO NOT manually install it11:36
lsuactiafneranybody got a fool proof method thats compatable with windows?11:37
Seveaskonki, the firefox version Ubuntu provides has all 1.0.4 security patches applied11:37
Seveasso you don't need to install it manuall11:37
Seveasy11:37
konkii'm new to linux.. it an whole new world to me11:37
konkii installed the OS yesterday...11:37
Seveasnice :)11:37
philuk86can anyone tell me how i can go about rebuilding an ubuntu package once I have downloaded the source using apt-get?11:38
Seveaskonki, do you see the smale globe at the top of your screen?11:38
SeveasThat's firefox :)11:38
konkiso i don't need to install the 1.0.4 or upgrade it to 1.0.4 right??? seveas11:38
konkiyes11:38
Seveasphiluk86, apt-get -b source [packagename] 11:38
CheticShould I be worried of this?: W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg/xlibmesa-glu-dev_6.8.2-10_amd64.deb   |  404 Not Found11:39
Seveasphiluk86, or if you have the sources: simply type dpkg-buildpackage in the sourcedir (the dir tat contains a debian/ subdir)11:39
microhaxoits not there11:39
microhaxothey dont have x64 packages up yet11:39
SeveasChetic, yes11:39
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CheticSeveas, Why do I get that?11:39
philuk86Seveas11:39
Seveaskonki, you don't need to upgrade11:39
konkiyes i see that Seveas11:39
JDigitalhmm, the skipping forward and back seems more sluggish than it was11:40
philuk86Seveas: thanks mate11:40
SeveasChetic, there's an error at the server, please send a mail to ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com11:40
JDigitaloh well11:40
konkiok... thanks... what about flash plugins and java script??11:40
Seveaskonki, javascript is there by default, java and flash not, but look at:11:40
Seveaskonki: http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/RestrictedFormats11:40
zwartkonki, if you want to install any extensions youll have to manually change your version number in about:config11:40
Cheticwill do, Seveas11:40
SeveasChetic, wait11:41
x_orAnyone here using a Netgear MA111 USB WiFi adaptor with Ubuntu?  I cannot get it configured.11:41
SeveasChetic, do an apt-get update first11:41
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Seveasand retry11:41
konkiwhere is the :config??11:41
Seveasif there is still an error, send that e-mail :)11:41
JDigitalWoot, I have e-mail.11:41
levanderAnybody has got any of these "multimedia" keyboards to work with Linux?11:41
zwartjust type about:config in the adressbar11:41
Seveaskonki: Open firefox and in about:config set general.useragent.vendorSub to 1.0.411:41
JDigitalWhy yes, I would like cheap v1agra!11:41
x_orSays "prism2_fwload: command not found"11:41
zukalkJDigital, you too, huh?11:42
JDigitalYou got it too? Man, I was hoping I was special.11:42
zukalki get everyday11:42
HappyFoollevander: i've got my volume and mute keys working11:42
SeveasJDigital, if you want cheap v1a g r a, I can forward you 1000 spam mails :)11:42
zukalkand valium, cialis, prozac.. spam is just amazing..11:42
CheticSeveas, k.. didn't work11:42
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JDigitalI get a lot of e-mail lately from the tech support team at my e-mail address' web domain...11:42
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JDigital...which is funny, because I own the domain11:43
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SeveasJDigital, lol11:43
zukalklol11:43
JDigitalI hope I'm not paying a lot for this tech support team11:43
levanderHappyFool: anything special you had to do?  Just remember that from years ago, you had to have a specific driver for your specific keyboard if it did anything other than just the normal keys.11:43
drasko_hi all. do anyone know a good ascii art editor?11:43
Seveassame for me @kaarsemaker.net and @ubuntulinux.nl :)11:43
Seveasdrasko_, try jave11:43
Seveaswww.jave.de11:43
konkiSeveas.... do i write :config set general.useragent.vendorSub to 1.0.4 in the address bar?11:43
zythJDigital, Just run all those programs they send you :)11:43
Seveas(requires Java)11:43
Seveaskonki, you write about:config in the addressbar11:43
JDigitalI tried but they were Windows programs :(11:43
levanderdrasko_: emacs has a mode for that11:43
zythJDigital, well, I'd complain! Cross-platform needs ought to be addressed in the spyware/adware/virus dept!11:44
JDigitalI agree!11:44
Seveaslevander, emacs leads to fear, fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering11:44
HappyFoollevander: there was a step i don't remember, but i'm not sure how important it was; anyway, the main thing was system -> preferences -> shortcuts11:44
JDigitalWe should apply to put that in breezy11:44
zythvi is happy.11:44
hugosDoes anyone know how to replace a debian libc6 package with a ubuntu one?11:44
levanderSeveas: so don't use it if your afraid of it11:44
zythvim is happier.11:44
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Seveaslevander, I don't use it :)11:44
lsuactiafneri cant get transcode on apt.. but i got marillat, is it cuss i use amd64?11:44
microhaxoyo how can i fix this?11:45
microhaxomicrohaxo@c-24-118-7-234:~$ fglrxinfo11:45
microhaxodisplay: :0.0  screen: 011:45
levanderAnybody got a Kensington Expert Mouse running under Linux? Just wondering if I'm going to be able to use the third and fourth buttons on that thing or not.11:45
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plamen5rovhello11:45
msg431hi11:45
konkiok, i'm there..  alot of letters and stuffs....11:45
msg431how should I login to cups11:45
Seveaslsuactiafner, marillat has no amd6411:45
msg431what the username and password?11:46
wsI just installed amd-64 version and was wondering if there was a good list of repositories?11:46
biovorethere isn't one by default11:46
lsuactiafnerit got 64bit mplayer tho11:46
plamen5rovbelieve it or not...i am a...virgin...in irc11:46
concept10any mac owners in here11:46
konkiSeveas, thanks11:46
Seveasws, see http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3811:46
Seveasplamen5rov, welcome :)11:46
plamen5rovthanks11:46
wsthanks11:46
plamen5rovi had just installed ubuntu 5.0411:47
levanderis there anything fancy you have to do or verify for these extra featured keyboards and mice?11:47
Seveasplamen5rov, welcome aboard the big Ubuntu ship then11:47
wsSeveas,  do these include mplayer xine etc.?11:47
plamen5rovand have problemswith multimedia codecs11:47
levanderto get them running under linux/ubuntu11:47
SeveasSeveas, yes11:47
Seveasnarf11:47
wshaha11:47
wsthanks11:47
Seveasws, yes11:47
ws:P11:47
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SeveasI blame the lack of coffee here :)11:48
microhaxomicrohaxo@c-24-118-7-234:~$ fglrxinfo11:48
microhaxodisplay: :0.0  screen: 011:48
zythhah!11:48
microhaxoseveas, any idea on how to fix this ?11:48
ws;)11:48
Seveasmicrohaxo, no idea11:48
zythcoffee...pfft11:48
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biovorelooks like someone is using a ATI card.. :-(11:48
Seveaszyth, nothing like coffee strong as tar to survive a night of coding :)11:48
microhaxoyea11:48
microhaxolol11:48
zythSeveas, LOL okay, true :)11:48
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microhaxoATI11:48
msg431what the username and password for cups?11:48
biovoremsg431: there isn't one..11:49
Seveasmsg431, add the cupsys user to the wheel group11:49
biovore^ do that..11:49
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Seveasand use your own user/pass11:49
biovore:-)11:49
plamen5rovhttp://forum.about-hackers.com ???11:49
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microhaxosooo11:50
microhaxohow the hell11:50
microhaxocan i fix this monitor deal11:50
microhaxo?11:50
plamen5rovso long!11:50
djm62plamen5rov: ugh...the "hacker" myth is in severe need of popping11:50
msg431Seveas, there is no wheel group11:50
CheticDepends: snes9x-x  but it is not installable <-why is it not installable?11:50
Seveasmsg431, then i'm outdated again :|11:51
Seveassearch the forum/wiki for an answer, there are answers to this question there11:51
djm62Chetic: what does apt-get install snes9x-x say?11:52
SeveasI never use CUPS, I always print via SSH to a printer at work :)11:52
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djm62Chetic: I've used snes9x on ARM linux before, so it is portable11:52
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Fabianre11:52
Seveasdjm62, we already figured out that there is no zsnes for amd64 in Ubuntu :)11:52
Cheticdjm62, Package snes9x-x is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source     E: Package snes9x-x has no installation candidate11:52
Fabianhi Seves11:52
Fabianpfp, back on track11:52
CheticSeveas, this is snes9x11:52
djm62Seveas: znes!=snes9x11:53
SeveasChetic, what you might try is this: apt-get -b zsnes11:53
msg431Seveas, I couldn't find anything11:53
pfpFabian: did it work?11:53
Fabianpfp, Grub working fine11:53
SeveasChetic, what you might try is this: apt-get -b source zsnes11:53
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Fabianpfp, it's using the swap partition again now11:53
pfpFabian: and the whole system boots?11:53
Fabianum, didn't try that!11:53
Fabian:D11:54
pfpFabian: ah, you booted livecd, good :)11:54
Fabianyep11:54
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CheticSeveas, unable to find...11:54
Fabianpfp, so what now11:54
pfpFabian: probably the rest works too, did you try to mount them?11:54
SeveasChetic, do you have a deb-src list for universe?11:54
Fabiannope11:54
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CheticSeveas, yep11:54
FabianI'll have a go11:54
Fabianro?11:54
pfpbetter safe than sorry :)11:55
djm62Seveas: would packages.debian.org be an option to get source?11:55
Fabianpfp, I would not have made you responsible11:55
Seveasdjm62, packages.ubuntu.com :)11:55
CheticE: Package snes9x-x has no installation candidate <-what the heck is that about? If you have snes9x stuff, you'd naturally put up the actual application itself..11:55
pfpFabian: i know, but still :)11:55
djm62Seveas: I'm presuming the lack of availability on ubuntu is the problem...11:55
Seveashttp://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=zsnes&searchon=names&subword=1&version=hoary&release=all11:55
Fabianpfp, ro?11:55
pfpFabian: yeah11:56
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SeveasChetic, http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/otherosfs/zsnes11:56
Seveasdowload dsc, orig.tar.gz and diff.gz11:56
Fabianalright, mounted ext3 partition11:56
Seveasand try dpkg-buildpackage11:56
pfpcool cool11:56
Fabianpfp, privat again?11:57
pfpsure11:57
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zythhuh mplayer just totally screwed the audio sync on video file11:59
seth_kChetic, actually if you check the forums, I just backported zSNES 1.4.2 for Hoary11:59
zythshould I install totem-xine?11:59
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